Tampa City Council
Thursday, September 2, 2021
9:00 a.m.
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09:02:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW COME
09:02:29 TO ORDER, SEPTEMBER 2, 2021.
09:02:32 THE INVOCATION THIS MORNING.
09:02:34 MR. DINGFELDER, GOOD MORNING, SIR.
09:02:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING.
09:02:37 FEELS FUNNY TO BE ON THIS SIDE.
09:02:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
09:02:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, CITY
09:02:42 COUNCIL.
09:02:48 AND I AM SO PLEASED TO INVITE MISS -- REVEREND TIFFINIA
09:02:53 WILLETS TO JOIN US AND GIVE THE INVOCATION.
09:02:56 THE REVEREND GREW UP IN SOUTH TAMPA AND THE PASTOR AT
09:03:00 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS UNITED METHODIST CHURCH CELEBRATING
09:03:05 ITS 100TH ANNIVERSARY.
09:03:10 PASTOR WILLETS SERVED THERE FOR FEW YEARS AND WORKED
09:03:13 WITH LOCAL SCHOOLS, NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS, AND
09:03:16 COMMUNITY LEADERS TO DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS AND
09:03:18 PARTNERSHIPS THROUGHOUT SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND THE CITY
09:03:21 OF TAMPA, TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF CHILDREN AND
09:03:22 FAMILIES.
09:03:26 SHE IS ALSO A BOARD MEMBER OF THE KIWANIS CLUB OF
09:03:32 TAMPA, EVEN THOUGH JOE AND I ARE ROTARIANS.
09:03:33 WE WILL FORGIVE THAT.
09:03:35 PROUD TO BE BROTHERS WITH KIWANIS.
09:03:37 SHE CONTINUES TO PROMOTE THE NEEDS OF CHILDREN IN TAMPA
09:03:38 BAY.
09:03:43 WITH THAT I WILL PRESENT REVEREND WILLETS TO GIVE THE
09:03:44 INVOCATION.
09:03:46 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:03:50 PLEASE PRAY WITH ME.
09:03:55 LOVING GOD, WE PRAY FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND WISDOM FOR
09:03:58 OUR LOCAL LEADERS, FOR THOSE WHO ARE GUIDING AND
09:04:03 LEADING OUR COMMUNITY.
09:04:08 WE PRAY THAT WE ALWAYS WILL KEEP YOUR HEART WHY OUR
09:04:09 HEARTS.
09:04:13 WE PRAY TO SEEK THE NEEDS OF THE LEAST AMONG US.
09:04:16 AND THAT WE WILL DO YOUR WORK IN THE WORLD.
09:04:20 WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE OUR
09:04:24 COMMUNITY, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD, AND WE PRAY FOR
09:04:30 YOUR BLESSING AND YOUR CONTINUED PRESENCE WITH US AS WE
09:04:33 LOVE AND LEAD OUR CITY OF TAMPA.
09:04:35 AMEN.
09:04:50 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:04:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CLERK.
09:04:53 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:04:54 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:04:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:04:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:04:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:05:00 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:05:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:05:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:05:04 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL FORUM.
09:05:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
09:05:08 MR. SHELBY, PLEASE.
09:05:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, GOOD MORNING MEMBERS OF CITY
09:05:14 COUNCIL I AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY ATTORNEY.
09:05:17 IT IS SEPTEMBER 2 AND YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM
09:05:19 PRESENT.
09:05:22 AND THIS MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS BEING CONDUCTED
09:05:28 LIVE WITH AN IN-PERSON QUORUM.
09:05:34 AND IN LIGHT OF COVID-19, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE A
09:05:39 RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY VIA COMMUNICATION MEDIA
09:05:42 TECHNOLOGY, CMT.
09:05:47 PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF TAMPA WATCH AT SPECTRUM 640,
09:05:49 CHANNEL 15 AND STREAM ON THE INTERNET AT
09:05:52 TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:05:55 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE MULTIPLE ALTERNATIVE METHODS
09:06:01 OF COMMUNICATING WITH CITY COUNCIL SUCH AS SENDING IN
09:06:04 COMMENTS BY THE INTERNET AND WEB, COMMENTS BY E-MAIL,
09:06:10 U.S. MAIL AND TO SPEAK DIRECTLY USING CMT THAT REQUIRES
09:06:14 PEOPLE TO REREGISTER AND THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE
09:06:20 ON CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.
09:06:24 ALSO IF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO
09:06:28 COMMUNICATION MEDIA DEVICE OR WANT TO COME INTO CITY
09:06:29 COUNCIL, THEY HAVE THE OPTION OF PARTICIPATING
09:06:32 VIRTUALLY USING COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY BEING
09:06:35 MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC BY THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:06:39 DURING THIS MEETING AT OLD CITY HALL, 315 E. KENNEDY
09:06:41 BOULEVARD, ON SECOND FLOOR.
09:06:44 AND BE REMINDED THAT USE OF MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING
09:06:47 INSIDE THE BUILDING ARE ENCOURAGED.
09:06:50 AND, AGAIN, INSTRUCTIONS FOR PARTICIPATING ARE IN THE
09:06:54 NOTICE OF TODAY'S MEETING WHICH IS AVAILABLE ON CITY
09:06:55 COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE.
09:07:00 AND IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE VIRTUAL TECHNOLOGY OR
09:07:03 COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY PURSUANT TO COUNCIL'S
09:07:06 RULES, WE WOULD ASK COUNCIL, AT THIS TIME TO MAKE A
09:07:10 MOTION TO WAIVE THE STANDING RULES AND ADOPT THE RULES
09:07:13 CONSISTENT WITH THE NOTICE OF TODAY'S MEETING AS SET
09:07:15 FORTH ALSO IN THE AGENDA.
09:07:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:07:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
09:07:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:07:20 ANY OPPOSED.
09:07:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:07:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GO THROUGH THE AGENDA, SIR.
09:07:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE AN ADDENDUM,
09:07:29 IS THAT RIGHT?
09:07:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO ADDENDUM.
09:07:33 ITEM NUMBER 18 UNDER "FINANCE COMMITTEE" IS BEING
09:07:37 PULLED AND MR. DINGFELDER WILL PUT THAT ON THE STAFF
09:07:37 REPORTS.
09:07:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
09:07:43 ITEM NUMBER 26.
09:07:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR.
09:07:47 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE FILE NUMBER
09:07:56 009851-00092 UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30 AT 9 A.M.
09:07:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT FOR ITEM 26?
09:08:01 ITEM 26.
09:08:03 MOTION BY MR. CITRO.
09:08:04 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
09:08:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM NUMBER 26, MR. CHAIRMAN?
09:08:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, ITEM NUMBER 26.
09:08:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS AN ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT?
09:08:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
09:08:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD YOU LIKE THAT TO APPEAR ON THE
09:08:23 CONSENT OR UNDER STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS?
09:08:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.
09:08:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONSENT DOCKET, IF WE COULD.
09:08:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO SAID CONSENT AGENDA.
09:08:38 DO WE NEED A MOTION, MR. SHELBY?
09:08:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T THINK THAT IS NECESSARY.
09:08:43 A VOTE DURING THE APPROVAL OF AGENDA OR A SEPARATE VOTE
09:08:44 NOW.
09:08:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL READ THE FILE NUMBER VZP
09:08:52 21-70109.
09:08:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 30 FOR CONTINUANCE TO
09:08:57 SEPTEMBER 30.
09:08:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION AND VOTE.
09:09:00 DOESN'T TO BE ROLL CALL.
09:09:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:09:03 ANY OPPOSED.
09:09:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:09:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 35 WILL ALSO BE
09:09:09 CONTINUED.
09:09:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A REVIEW HEARING.
09:09:12 ITEM NUMBER 35.
09:09:16 AND I AM GOING TO ASK RO PLEASE TAKE UP THAT SOME TIME
09:09:18 SHORTLY AFTER 10:30.
09:09:20 I KNOW THE ATTORNEYS INVOLVED ARE GOING TO BE
09:09:24 REGISTERED AND AVAILABLE TO DISCUSSION, BUT BECAUSE IT
09:09:27 IS A NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING AFTER WE EACH IT AT 10:30,
09:09:30 WE WILL TAKE IT UP FOR A CONTINUANCE.
09:09:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MR. SHELBY, NO PROBLEM.
09:09:39 ITEM NUMBER 41 CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER 30, WHAT STAFF IS
09:09:40 ASKING.
09:09:42 ALL RIGHT.
09:09:43 GET APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
09:09:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:09:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:09:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MADAM CLERK.
09:09:52 MOTION TO CONTINUE BY MR. MANISCALCO.
09:09:55 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
09:09:56 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:09:57 ANY OPPOSED.
09:09:57 OKAY.
09:10:00 MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
09:10:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
09:10:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
09:10:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
09:10:11 ITEM 1, CEREMONIALS.
09:10:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU WISH TO GO THROUGH THE STAFF
09:10:14 REPORTS?
09:10:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RIGHT, MR. SHELBY.
09:10:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR CALL.
09:10:27 WE HAVE AN UPDATE FROM THE CHIEF OF STAFF ITEM NUMBER
09:10:29 36.
09:10:32 WE HAVE A RESOLUTION, 37.
09:10:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT THERE.
09:10:37 IS THERE ANY QUESTION ABOUT THAT?
09:10:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
09:10:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OR DO YOU WANT A STAFF PRESENTATION?
09:10:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTION ON 37, GENTLEMEN?
09:10:47 ITEM NUMBER 38 --
09:10:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:10:50 SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
09:10:52 THE ANSWER IS THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS?
09:10:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO QUESTIONS ON 37?
09:10:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CORRECT.
09:11:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 38, DO YOU NEED A MOTION?
09:11:02 >>LUIS VIERA: NO, I DO NOT.
09:11:03 I WANT TO CLARIFY.
09:11:05 I DID NOT WANT A MEMORIAL IN EACH PARK.
09:11:07 ALL OF OUR 150-PLUS PARKS.
09:11:10 MY MOTION -- I THINK THERE WAS A MISTAKE SOMEWHERE.
09:11:14 MY MOTION WAS A MEMORIAL IN EACH DISTRICT WHICH THEY
09:11:14 DID.
09:11:18 I CAN TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT IT LATER BUT JUST TO CLARIFY I
09:11:20 AM NOT LOOKING TO HAVE A MEMORIAL IN ALL OF OUR
09:11:21 150-PLUS PARKS.
09:11:23 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:11:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 39.
09:11:26 MR. MANISCALCO'S MOTION.
09:11:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUARTERLY REPORT.
09:11:31 ANY NEED FOR A PRESENTATION ON THAT BY COUNCIL, BY MR.
09:11:35 BHIDE?
09:11:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO --
09:11:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:11:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:11:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T WANT TO TAKE MORE TIME.
09:11:45 BUT I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT ON ITEM 39.
09:11:50 A 79-PAGE REPORT FROM THE STORMWATER, AND JEAN DUNCAN
09:11:54 AND VIK BHIDE AND ALL THE PEOPLE WORKING REALLY HARD ON
09:11:55 THE STORMWATER.
09:11:59 PEOPLE COMPLAIN OF THE STORMWATER FEE, BUT IF YOU READ
09:12:02 THE REPORT, GREAT THINGS ARE DONE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
09:12:04 I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT FOR THAT GROUP AND I AM
09:12:05 FINE WITH THAT.
09:12:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, SIR.
09:12:10 SO NUMBER 39 CAN BE RELEASED.
09:12:15 ITEM NUMBER 40.
09:12:18 >>BILL CARLSON: ITEM 40 ASKED US TO NARROW THE SCOPE.
09:12:24 I WOULD LIKE MISS O'HARA OR MR. MASSEY TO NARROW THE
09:12:24 SCOPE.
09:12:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL HAVE THEM HERE.
09:12:30 41 CONTINUED.
09:12:34 42 -- DOES VIK BHIDE NEED TO BE THERE?
09:12:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE CAN RELEASE HIM.
09:12:40 HE GAVE A THOROUGH REPORT.
09:12:42 ROAD PAVING IS A HUGE CONCERN FOR A LOT OF CITIZENS.
09:12:46 I HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY --
09:12:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HIM HERE.
09:12:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE LIKE TO HAVE HIM HERE FOR THAT?
09:12:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WOULD LIKE HIM HERE FOR THAT.
09:12:56 OKAY.
09:12:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED IT AND MR.
09:13:01 MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
09:13:03 ANY OPPOSED.
09:13:05 ITEM NUMBER 1.
09:13:14 MR. CARLSON IS COMING DOWN.
09:13:17 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, ARE WE OKAY?
09:13:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
09:13:23 >>BILL CARLSON: THE GREAT PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE
09:13:25 STEPHEN SWINDEL.
09:13:29 IMMEDIATE PAST CHAIR OF PORT TAMPA BAY.
09:13:30 HE WAS ON THE BOARD LONGER THAN THAT.
09:13:33 AND MANY PEOPLE OVER THE YEARS THOUGHT THAT THE PORT
09:13:35 HAD EVEN MORE POTENTIAL THAN IT HAS.
09:13:39 THE PORT SAYS THEY HAVE $17 BILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT
09:13:44 AND THEY RESULT IN 85,000 JOBS.
09:13:51 THE PORT REALLY ARGUABLY IS THE TOP ECONOMIC ENGINE IN
09:13:54 OUR REGION AND STEVE WITH PAUL ANDERSON.
09:13:58 THE CEO OF THE PORT HERE AND HIS TEAM STEPPED UP IN THE
09:14:01 LAST FEW YEARS AND TRANSFORMED OUR PORT INTO SOMETHING
09:14:03 MUCH BIGGER THAN IT WAS BEFORE.
09:14:05 SO I WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS RESOLUTION.
09:14:09 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO AWARD THIS COMMENDATION
09:14:11 TO STEPHEN SWINDEL FOR HIS 13 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE
09:14:15 TAMPA PORT AUTHORITY SERVING SEVEN YEARS -- SEVEN OR
09:14:16 FOUR -- SEVEN.
09:14:19 SEVEN YEARS -- I READ IT WRONG ONLINE.
09:14:21 DURING YOUR TIME -- DURING YOUR TIME ON THE BOARD, YOU
09:14:26 OFFERED A IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PORT'S MASTER PLAN,
09:14:29 SECURITY UPGRADES AND SEVERAL ENVIRONMENTAL PRODUCTS
09:14:32 IMPROVING THE WATER QUALITY OF TAMPA BAY AND MARINE
09:14:33 LIFE.
09:14:35 WITH THE RESULT OF YOUR LEADERSHIP, SAW THE GLOBAL
09:14:38 CONTAINER SERVICES INCLUDING DIRECT, WEEKLY SERVICE
09:14:42 BETWEEN ASIA AND TAMPA BY CHINA OCEAN SHIPPING COMPANY,
09:14:53 CMA G MERSK COMPANY, AND LAUNCH -- LAUNCH OF NEW WEEKLY
09:14:55 CONTAINER SERVICES TO MEXICO.
09:14:57 THE CITY OF TAMPA WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
09:14:58 DEDICATION.
09:15:01 THE CONTAINER SERVICE THING IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF
09:15:04 PORT DIRECTORS HAVE BEEN CHASING OVER THE NUMBER OF
09:15:07 YEARS AND COMBINATION OF STEVE, PAUL AND THEIR TEAM
09:15:08 ACED THIS.
09:15:11 COVID SET US BACK A LITTLE BIT AND THEY ARE PUSHING
09:15:14 HARD TO START IT AGAIN.
09:15:18 WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS?
09:15:20 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEN AND COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:15:24 IT IS REALLY A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND TO RECOGNIZE AND
09:15:25 TO BE RECOGNIZED.
09:15:28 I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO WORK WITH STEVE AS OUR BOARD
09:15:30 CHAIR FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.
09:15:32 HE BROUGHT DYNAMIC LEADERSHIP AND ONE OUR COMMITTED
09:15:36 INDIVIDUALS TO THE MARITIME INDUSTRY AND THE GROWTH OF
09:15:36 OUR PART.
09:15:40 I AM SO THANKFUL TO HAVE SERVED UNDER HIM AND HIS
09:15:42 STEWARDSHIP OF OUR PORT.
09:15:44 COUNCILMEMBER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING HIM.
09:15:45 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
09:15:48 AND THANKS TO ALL YOUR TEAM AND STEVE.
09:15:54 ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES WANT TO SPEAK?
09:15:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY QUICKLY COUNCILMAN CARLSON
09:15:58 SAID IT ALL.
09:16:01 OUR PORT IS OUR GREATEST ECONOMIC ENGINE IN THIS AREA
09:16:02 AND OUR REGION.
09:16:06 WE APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR SERVICE ON THE BOARD, AS
09:16:08 WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THE PORT IN GENERAL, THE LEADERSHIP.
09:16:10 I SEE THE TEAM THERE.
09:16:13 WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:16:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:16:16 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:16:21 AS I SAID EARLIER THAT I CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR
09:16:23 CAREERS OF SERVICE AND I KNOW THROUGH YOUR LEADERSHIP
09:16:26 AND THOSE MEN BEHIND YOU THAT AS THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:16:32 EVOLVES, SO WILL THE NUMBER ONE ECONOMIC DRIVER OF THIS
09:16:33 AREA.
09:16:36 WE ARE A PORT CITY.
09:16:41 AND THE PORT OF TAMPA SHOULD BE EVOLVING JUST AS MUCH
09:16:43 AND JUST AS QUICKLY AND GROWING AS MUCH AS THE CITY
09:16:44 TAMPA.
09:16:46 I THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE OVER
09:16:47 THE YEARS.
09:16:49 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:16:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:16:53 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR GOOD
09:16:58 WORK AND A SHOUT OUT AND I HAD A GREAT PLEASURE TO WORK
09:17:04 WITH YOU -- WHO IS THE SECRETARY OF COMMERCE JAMAL SOLE.
09:17:06 SUCH A FINE GENTLEMAN AND NICE GUY.
09:17:09 I SAW HIM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO IN TALLAHASSEE AND A
09:17:12 GOOD PERSON AND REGARDLESS OF YOUR POLITICS EVERYONE
09:17:17 CAN BE PROUD OF HIS LIFE AND WHAT HE HAS DONE.
09:17:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
09:17:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: STEVE, I HAVE KNOWN YOU WHEN --
09:17:22 WHEN I HAD CURLS.
09:17:24 NOT YOU.
09:17:25 YOU STILL LOOK YOUNG.
09:17:27 THANK YOU FOR MANY YEARS OF SERVICE AND NOT ONLY THE
09:17:31 LEADER AND CHAIR OF YOUR BOARD, BUT AS A WORKER BEHIND
09:17:33 THE SCENES DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO MAKE NOT ONLY
09:17:36 THE PORT BETTER BUT TAMPA, YOUR CITY, BETTER.
09:17:39 THANK YOU, ALL 400,000 PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.
09:17:41 YOU AND YOUR BOARD MEMBERS BEHIND YOU AND EVERYBODY
09:17:42 THAT WORKS IN THE PORT.
09:17:44 THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GREAT JOB YOU HAVE DONE.
09:17:45 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:17:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:17:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: STEVE, GREAT CATCHING UP WITH YOU
09:17:51 THIS MORNING EARLIER.
09:17:54 YOU KNOW IT IS FUNNY OVER THE YEARS I HAVE SEEN YOUR
09:17:59 NAME POP UP SO MANY TIMES IN CONTEXT THROUGHOUT THE
09:18:04 COMMUNION AND LIKE OUR FATHERS WHO ARE ROTARIANS.
09:18:06 WE CONTINUE -- AND YOU CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY
09:18:08 IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
09:18:11 THE PORT APPRECIATES IT, BUT WE AS CITY COUNCIL
09:18:13 APPRECIATE IT GREATLY.
09:18:14 THANK YOU.
09:18:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
09:18:18 MR. CARLSON, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS GENTLEMAN
09:18:21 BEFORE US AND RECOGNIZE THOSE WHO DID GREAT WORK IN THE
09:18:22 CITY OF TAMPA.
09:18:24 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:18:27 >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL GIVE THIS TO YOU.
09:18:31 WE DON'T GET TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE VOLUNTEER TO
09:18:33 ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERSHIP.
09:18:34 THANK YOU.
09:18:37 >> THANK YOU, BILL AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:18:41 I WAS APPOINTED BY THREE DIFFERENT GOVERNORS.
09:18:44 AND SAT ON THE BOARD WITH THREE DIFFERENT TAMPA MAYORS
09:18:46 TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF MY LONGEVITY.
09:18:51 I STARTED OFF IN 2008 WITH GLOBAL RECESSION AND ENDED
09:18:59 IN 2021 WITH A GLOBAL PANDEMIC RESULTING IN A LOT OF
09:19:02 20% OF OUR REVENUES OVERNIGHT DUE TO THE LOSS OF THE
09:19:02 CRUISE INDUSTRY.
09:19:06 BUT THE STRENGTH OF OUR PORT IS DIVERSITY.
09:19:10 WE HAVE ONE OF THE MOST DIVERSE PORTS IN AMERICA.
09:19:12 WE ALL KNOW PHOSPHATE.
09:19:16 WE GREW UP WITH PHOSPHATE, FERTILIZER-RELATED PROCESS.
09:19:19 BUT ADDITIONALLY, LUMBER, STEEL AND ROCK.
09:19:23 WE JUST STARTED BRINGING IN REFRIGERATED VEGETABLES AND
09:19:28 PINEAPPLES ON A WEEKLY BASIS BY DOLE COMING IN FROM
09:19:30 CENTRAL AMERICA ONCE A WEEK.
09:19:34 AS BILL ALLUDED TO THE CROWNING ACHIEVEMENT WAS TO GET
09:19:38 THE LARGEST GLOBAL CARRIERS IN THE WORLD TO COME TO
09:19:38 TAMPA.
09:19:43 IT HAS PUT TAMPA ON THE GLOBAL LOGISTICS MAP FOREVER.
09:19:45 A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID THIS COULDN'T BE DONE.
09:19:48 WE HAD PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY WHO SAID TAMPA WILL
09:19:51 NEVER, EVER BE A CONTAINER PORT.
09:19:56 IT IS JUST A BULK PORT AND WILL ALWAYS BE.
09:20:00 AS YOU KNOW 40% OF PETROLEUMS COME THROUGH PORT TAMPA
09:20:01 BAY.
09:20:04 IT IS A LARGE PART OF OUR BUSINESS BUT WE FELT THE NEED
09:20:07 TO CONTINUE THE DIVERSIFICATION AND SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE
09:20:11 OF THE TEAM BEHIND ME WHO PAUL ASSEMBLED WHO HAD A
09:20:13 CAN-DO ATTITUDE.
09:20:14 THEY SAID WHY NOT.
09:20:16 WHY NOT BE A CONTAINER PORT.
09:20:18 WE ARE HERE AND IT HAS BEEN A REMARKABLE
09:20:19 TRANSFORMATION.
09:20:21 BUT THANK YOU, AGAIN.
09:20:24 I REALLY ENJOYED GIVING BACK TO THE PORT COMMUNITY WHO
09:20:27 HAS BEEN SO GOOD TO ME AND MY FAMILY THROUGH THE YEAR.
09:20:30 THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR THIS COMMENDATION.
09:20:31 APPRECIATE IT.
09:20:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:20:37 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:20:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
09:20:39 GIVE THEM A MINUTE.
09:20:44 AND GO TO ITEM NUMBER 2, MR. MIRANDA IS ON HIS WAY DOWN
09:20:49 TO THE SECOND FLOOR FOR COMMENDATION FOR RETIRING CHIEF
09:21:06 DUGAN.
09:21:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MR. MIRANDA.
09:21:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT IS A PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO
09:21:17 STAND IN FRONT OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE
09:21:22 400-PLUS THOUSAND PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
09:21:25 PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO CHIEF BRIAN DUGAN.
09:21:29 YOU KNOW, MR. DUGAN, WHEN I LOOKED BACK AT YOUR CAREER
09:21:34 YOU STARTED IN '91, CORRECT.
09:21:34 >> CORRECT.
09:21:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MINUS FOUR YEARS, WE HAVE WORKED A
09:21:43 LONG TIME, 27 YEARS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AND WE BOTH
09:21:45 LOOK LIKE WE ARE WORN OUT.
09:21:49 LOOK AT YOUR HEAD AND MY HEAD.
09:21:51 I HAD CURLS AND YOU HAD CURLS.
09:21:52 LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.
09:21:55 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL'S ESTEEMED HONOR TO RECOGNIZE A
09:21:58 COMMAND CAREER SPANNING 31 YEARS FOR FAITHFUL AND
09:22:00 DEDICATED SERVICE.
09:22:03 YOU HAVE WORN THIS UNIFORM OF THE BEST POLICE
09:22:06 ORGANIZATION IN THE COUNTRY WITH ESTEEM AND JUSTIFIABLE
09:22:09 PRIDE.
09:22:13 AMONG YOUR MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF WHICH SOME WERE VERY
09:22:13 DELICATE.
09:22:17 YOU KNOW IT IS NOT EASY TO HAVE A SUPER BOWL, A STANLEY CUP,
09:22:21 AND HAVE THE SIGNIFICANT ORGANIZATION THAT YOU PUT
09:22:24 TOGETHER TO MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THOSE DAYS
09:22:25 ALSO.
09:22:29 HOWEVER, MORE THAN THAT, IS THAT YOU MANAGE AN
09:22:33 OPERATION OF ABOUT 1100 PERSONNEL, POLICE OFFICERS AND
09:22:36 OTHER DUTIES THAT WORK IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:22:40 THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DO, BECAUSE AMONG THOSE
09:22:43 THINGS NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE THE SHIFTS, THE COMMANDERS
09:22:52 THAT DO ALL THE WORK THAT THE PEOPLE ONLY RECOGNIZE
09:23:07 BECAUSE ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
09:23:11 THIS IS A JOB THAT ENTAILS A LOT MORE THAN WEARING A
09:23:11 BADGE.
09:23:13 YOU GOT TO BE FROM A PREACHER TO A DOCTOR TO A POLICE
09:23:18 OFFICER TO A PSYCHIATRIST TO -- SO MANY THINGS GOING ON
09:23:21 IN ANY CITY, NOT ONLY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT IT'S
09:23:23 SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO BE BORN WITH THE IDEA THAT
09:23:26 YOU ARE GOING TO BE HELPFUL, THAT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE
09:23:29 THE CONTACTS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO MAKE THE CITY IN
09:23:31 WHICH YOU LIVE A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.
09:23:33 AND YOU CERTAINLY HAVE DONE THAT.
09:23:36 I HAVE DEALT WITH MANY POLICE CHIEFS.
09:23:38 AND YOU RANK THROUGH WITH THE BEST OF THEM.
09:23:42 IN FACT ALL OF YOU WERE JUST AS GOOD AS YOURSELF.
09:23:44 THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES.
09:23:46 THEY ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY OF PRESENTING THEMSELVES.
09:23:49 BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY HAVE ONE THING IN
09:23:49 COMMON.
09:23:53 THEY WANTED TO MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA A SAFER, BETTER
09:23:56 COMMUNITY THAN WHAT THEY FOUND WHEN THEY BECAME POLICE
09:23:57 CHIEF.
09:23:58 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICES.
09:23:59 31 YEARS.
09:24:03 THE CITY OF TAMPA IS APPRECIATIVE OF YOU.
09:24:05 THE ORGANIZATION THANKS YOU.
09:24:06 THE CITY COUNCIL THANKS YOU.
09:24:08 AND YOU ARE ONE HELL OF A GUY.
09:24:10 THANK YOU.
09:24:12 >>CHIEF DUGAN: THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
09:24:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOUR COMMENDATION SIGNED BY ALL
09:24:16 SEVEN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
09:24:19 >>CHIEF DUGAN: ALL RIGHTY, THANK YOU.
09:24:22 I APPRECIATE THAT.
09:24:24 GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:24:27 I APPRECIATE THIS.
09:24:28 IT MEANS VERY MUCH TO ME.
09:24:31 BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU THE NICE WORDS THAT WERE SAID
09:24:33 ABOUT ME I DON'T DESERVE ANY OF THAT.
09:24:36 IT GOES TO HARD-WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF THE TAMPA
09:24:37 POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:24:40 THEY ARE THE REASON WHY I MADE CHIEF BECAUSE OF THEIR
09:24:42 HARD WORK AND EVERYTHING THEY DO ON THE STREETS OF
09:24:44 TAMPA AND KEEPING EVERYONE SAFE.
09:24:47 I APPRECIATE THE KIND WORDS, BUT, AGAIN, THE MEN AND
09:24:50 WOMEN OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT DESERVE THE CREDIT
09:24:52 AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT GET EVERYTHING DONE.
09:24:53 SO THANK YOU.
09:24:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZE.
09:24:58 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:25:01 I APPRECIATE THAT.
09:25:06 THANK YOU COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WE APPRECIATE THAT.
09:25:08 THANK YOU FOR THE MANY YEARS OF SERVICE.
09:25:12 WHEN YOU STARTED AT THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, I WAS
09:25:14 ABOUT MY SON'S AGE RIGHT NOW.
09:25:18 I WON'T SAY THAT -- NOT TO SAY THAT ANYBODY IS OLD, BUT
09:25:20 IT IS A LONG TIME.
09:25:22 A VERY LONG TIME.
09:25:23 MANY, MANY YEARS OF SERVICE.
09:25:28 STARTED IN 1991 -- '90, OR MORE LESS, WHATEVER THAT
09:25:28 MIGHT BE.
09:25:31 AND YOU PRESIDED OVER BIG CHALLENGES FOR THE CITY OF
09:25:32 TAMPA.
09:25:36 YOU STARTED WITH THE SO-CALLED SEMINOLE HEIGHTS KILLER.
09:25:39 OVER THE LAST YEAR, PANDEMIC, CIVIL PROTEST, GEORGE
09:25:43 FLOYD, AND LET'S NOT FORGET THE DEATH OF OUR -- OF A
09:25:46 HERO, JESSIE METS.
09:25:50 YOU HAD TO PLAY THE ROLE OF COMFORTER-IN-CHIEF ON THAT.
09:25:52 SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOULDN'T FORGET ABOUT.
09:25:59 I REMEMBER, CHIEF, SOMETHING THAT STUCK WITH ME THAT I
09:26:01 WAS REALLY TOUCHED BY.
09:26:05 MAYBE YOU REMEMBER THIS -- MAYBE YOU DON'T -- THE
09:26:09 FUNERAL OF MADSEN AND YOU HAD A LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS
09:26:12 IN FRONT OF YOU AND BEHIND YOU AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE
09:26:15 DIFFICULT TIME IN THE CITY OVER THE LAST YEAR, YEAR AND
09:26:18 A HALF INCLUDING CIVIL PROTESTS, COVID, SO MANY POLICE
09:26:20 OFFICERS BEING OUT AND FIRE FIGHTERS AND FIRST
09:26:22 RESPONDERS DUE TO COVID.
09:26:27 AND YOU NOD DED TO THE MEN IN FRONT OF YOU AND TURNED
09:26:30 AROUND AND NODDED TO THE MEN AND WOMEN BEHIND YOU AND
09:26:33 YOU DID THAT TO SALUTE THEIR SERVICE IN VERY, VERY
09:26:34 DIFFICULT TIMES.
09:26:35 I TOOK NOTE OF THAT.
09:26:38 I WAS VERY, VERY TOUCHED BY THAT.
09:26:43 JUST KNOW THAT THE -- EVERY DAY FAMILIES IN OUR CITY,
09:26:46 99.9% SUPPORT THE WORK OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
09:26:51 THAT IS REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS, CARDINALS FANS, CUBS
09:26:56 FANS, CATHOLICS, PROTESTANTS, JEWS, NONBELIEVERS,
09:27:01 MUSLIMS, EVERYBODY SUPPORTS THE WORK THAT Y'ALL DO.
09:27:05 DOESN'T MEAN THAT PEOPLE WON'T SAY TIME FOR REFLECTION,
09:27:08 CHANGE AND DIALOGUE, BUT WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE BASIC
09:27:11 IDEA OF SUPPORT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND RESPECT FOR THE
09:27:15 WORK THAT YOU ALL DO, RESPECT FOR THE CHANCES YOU ALL
09:27:18 TAKE EVERY DAY, RESPECT FOR THE RISKS THAT YOU ALL TAKE
09:27:21 EVERY SINGLE DAY, PEOPLE ARE UNITED WITH THAT.
09:27:31 YOU KNOW YOU PRESIDED OVER SO MANY DIFFERENT TIMES AS
09:27:33 POLICE CHIEF AND A POLICE OFFICER.
09:27:38 PEOPLE RUNNING FOR ELECTED OFFICE WANT TO RUN TO YOU TO
09:27:41 TAKE YOU ARE IN PICTURE AND AT TIMES THEY RUN AWAY.
09:27:44 A LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS AND FOLKS HAVE SEEN BOTH, BUT
09:27:47 THROUGHOUT THAT, YOU ALWAYS SERVED THE PUBLIC.
09:27:51 FROM ME AND ALL OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, ALL SEVEN OF US
09:27:52 THANK YOU.
09:27:53 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:27:54 >>CHIEF DUGAN: THANK YOU.
09:27:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. VIERA.
09:27:56 MR. MANISCALCO.
09:27:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:28:01 CONGRATULATIONS, CHIEF, ON YOUR RETIREMENT AND ALMOST
09:28:11 30 YEARS-PLUS OF SERVICE YOU AND I GOT TO KNOW EACH
09:28:15 OTHER WHEN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS HAD A SERIAL KILLER ON THE
09:28:19 LOOSE AND YOU WERE OUT THERE AS INTERIM CHIEF AND THE
09:28:23 WAY YOU SERVED AND ORGANIZED WITH YOUR TEAM, WITH OTHER
09:28:24 AGENCIES.
09:28:28 IN THE END, THAT -- THAT WAS SOLVED.
09:28:35 AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAME A SAFER PLACE ONCE AGAIN
09:28:39 AND THEN FROM THERE, YOU BECAME CHIEF AND YOU SERVED IN
09:28:42 THAT CAPACITY SINCE, BUT WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS AS
09:28:47 INTERIM CHIEF OR AS CHIEF, YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE
09:28:49 IN A LEADERSHIP POSITION.
09:28:52 YOU GAVE IT YOUR ALL FROM THE BEGINNING UNDER MAYOR
09:28:53 BUCKHORN.
09:28:58 AND IT HAS BEEN, WHAT, FOUR YEARS OR MORE AT THIS TIME.
09:29:00 COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS SAID IT ALL.
09:29:03 YOU HAVE BEEN THERE IN VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TIMES.
09:29:08 NOT AN EASY TENURE ON TOP OF THE PANDEMIC THAT STILL
09:29:09 WITH US.
09:29:14 MIND YOU WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD WITH CELEBRATIONS WITH
09:29:20 CHAMPA BAY, BUT YOU HAVE ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT
09:29:23 TIMES AS POLICE CHIEF AND I THINK YOU SERVED WELL.
09:29:26 I CONGRATULATE YOU AND HAPPY RETIREMENT.
09:29:27 >>CHIEF DUGAN: THANK YOU.
09:29:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.
09:29:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF
09:29:32 SERVICE.
09:29:34 WASN'T COMING IN AS A CHIEF BUT THE FIRST THING A
09:29:38 HURRICANE THAT BLEW MOST OF THE WATER OUT OF NORTH
09:29:40 TAMPA BAY AND ALSO A SERIAL KILLER.
09:29:41 YOU HANDLED YOURSELF WELL.
09:29:44 WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE MARK OF YOUR DISTINCTION IS
09:29:55 YOUR SUBORDINATES RESPECT YOU AND A GREAT MARK TO HAVE.
09:29:57 ENJOY YOUR TIME WITH YOUR WIFE OR CHILDREN.
09:30:00 BUT IF YOU SAY A FOND FAREWELL, MAKE SURE YOU GET
09:30:04 SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO SIGN PROPERLY.
09:30:04 [LAUGHTER]
09:30:05 THANK YOU, CHIEF.
09:30:06 >>CHIEF DUGAN: THANK YOU.
09:30:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:30:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:30:14 CHIEF, IT DIDN'T SURPRISE ME THAT -- YOUR SPEECH TO US
09:30:18 WAS VERY SHORT AND VERY MODEST AND VERY UNDERSTATED
09:30:22 BECAUSE THAT IS THE GUY THAT I KNOW AS BRIAN DUGAN.
09:30:27 YOU -- YOU ARE CONSISTENTLY PRAISING THE FOLKS THAT ARE
09:30:30 STANDING BEHIND YOU AND THE OTHER 1,000 PEOPLE WHO WORK
09:30:32 WITH YOU AND WORK FOR YOU.
09:30:35 THAT IS WHO YOU ARE.
09:30:38 YOU AND FIRST GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER, I THINK, DURING
09:30:40 THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION.
09:30:44 AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS AN ORDERLY EVENT, BUT AN
09:30:48 EVENT WHERE PROTESTERS HAD THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR
09:30:50 FIRST AMENDMENT FREEDOMS.
09:30:53 WE AGREED ON THAT, BECAUSE YOU -- YOU BELIEVE IN THOSE
09:30:54 FREEDOMS.
09:30:56 YOU BELIEVE IN OUR NATION.
09:30:58 YOU BELIEVE IN OUR CONSTITUTION.
09:31:00 AND YOU -- AND YOU HAVE BEEN THAT WAY THROUGH YOUR
09:31:02 WHOLE CAREER.
09:31:06 I THINK WE ARE SORT OF SIMILAR BECAUSE YOU AND I BOTH
09:31:08 KIND OF TELL IT LIKE IT IS.
09:31:11 WASN'T THAT HOWARD COSELL?
09:31:13 WE TELL IT LIKE IT IS AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T
09:31:17 APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE
09:31:19 SLEEP BETTER BECAUSE OF IT.
09:31:23 CHIEF, I KNOW, I, FOR ONE, WILL MISS YOU AND I HOPE YOU
09:31:25 ARE NOT A STRANGER.
09:31:31 >>CHIEF DUGAN: THANK YOU.
09:31:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA IS DOWNSTAIRS AND THERE
09:31:36 CARLSON IS NOT HERE EITHER.
09:31:37 LET ME FINISH IT OFF.
09:31:40 MR. VIERA FINISHED UP SAID IT FOR EVERYBODY.
09:31:43 SAID EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.
09:31:44 WE APPRECIATE THAT.
09:31:48 I HAVE BEEN THERE WHEN YOU FIRST CAME IN '91.
09:31:50 THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:31:53 AS A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW A LOT OF UPS AND DOWNS IN THAT
09:31:53 PLACE.
09:31:55 A LOT OF STRESSFUL TIME.
09:31:58 DEALING WITH FAMILY AND DEALING WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT
09:32:00 ISSUES.
09:32:02 TAKES SOMEBODY STRONG TO HANDLE ALL THE PRESSURES AND
09:32:05 THE SITUATIONAL NEEDS OF THE CITY AND ALSO TO BE ABLE
09:32:12 TO, AGAIN, LEAD SO I JUST SAY KEEPING IT BRIEF.
09:32:14 I KNOW WHAT IT IS TO RETIRE.
09:32:15 ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT.
09:32:17 ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT.
09:32:18 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.
09:32:19 >>CHIEF DUGAN: THANK YOU.
09:32:27 I APPRECIATE IT.
09:32:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 3 IS COMING UP.
09:32:34 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY SO, COUNCIL DINGFELDER IS
09:32:36 RIGHT, BOTH OF YOU DO TELL IT LIKE IT IS.
09:32:38 AND THIS IS A COMPLIMENT.
09:32:38 [LAUGHTER]
09:32:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU REMEMBER HOWARD COSELL WAS
09:32:43 ITS QUESTION.
09:32:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOUR ITEM, MR. VIERA.
09:32:46 ITEM NUMBER 3.
09:32:49 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I WILL RESERVE MY REMARKS FOR
09:32:50 AFTERWARDS.
09:32:54 I WANTED TO INVITE OUR FRIENDS AT TAMPA INNOVATION FOR
09:32:57 A PRESENTATION ON WHAT'S GOING ON OVER IN THE NORTH
09:33:01 TAMPA AREA WITH REGARDS TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
09:33:03 WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHAT IS NOT GOING ON OUT THERE.
09:33:05 THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING OUT
09:33:06 THERE RIGHT NOW.
09:33:10 AND I WANTED TO INNOVATE TAMPA INNOVATION JUST TO DO A
09:33:13 PRESENTATION TO BRIEF COUNCIL ON THESE THINGS BECAUSE
09:33:15 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY NOT ALWAYS SEE IT OUT
09:33:19 THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, GREAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING OUT
09:33:19 THERE.
09:33:21 AND WE SHOULD ALL BE PROUD OF THAT.
09:33:24 I WILL SPEAK AFTER, BUT, THANK YOU, SIR.
09:33:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, WHO DO WE HAVE -- OKAY,
09:33:30 HERE WE GO.
09:33:31 >> HELLO, CHAIRMAN.
09:33:32 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:33:35 GREAT TO BE WITH YOU THIS MORNING.
09:33:38 I REALLY WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US TIME ON A
09:33:41 BUSY CITY COUNCIL AGENDA TO COME AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE
09:33:43 WHAT IS COMING UP IN THE UPTOWN AREA.
09:33:47 I WANT TO START BY THANKING YOU TO SUPPORT AND
09:33:49 COMMITMENT TO TAMPA'S UPTOWN.
09:33:53 THE TAMPA CITY STAFF HAS BEEN AT THE READY AND ADVISED
09:33:54 THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
09:33:59 AND I PARTICULARLY WANT TO RECOGNIZE ROB ROSNER FOR HIS
09:34:01 PRESENTATION AND PARTICIPATION IN THE WORKING GROUP OF
09:34:02 THE PLANNING PROCESS.
09:34:04 IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN.
09:34:07 I HAVE A FEW SLIDES I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW.
09:34:10 THEY ARE NOT PRETTY BUT A LOT BETTER THAN LOOKING AT ME
09:34:12 FOR THE NEXT FEW MINUTES.
09:34:15 DO I HAVE PERMISSION TO SHARE THAT?
09:34:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:34:38 >> I HAVE A LITTLE TROUBLE GETTING TO THE SLIDE SHOW
09:34:39 WINDOW.
09:34:40 IT IS BLOCKED.
09:34:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE CAN SEE IT NOW.
09:34:45 >> OKAY, HERE WE GO.
09:34:46 SORRY ABOUT THAT.
09:34:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO PROBLEM.
09:34:51 >> BUT TO START WITH A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
09:34:55 THIS PROCESS STARTED BACK IN DECEMBER 2019 WHEN A
09:34:57 MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WAS REACHED BETWEEN THE
09:35:00 CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND THE TAMPA
09:35:01 INNOVATION PARTNERSHIP.
09:35:04 THEY CALLED FOR A COMPLETION OF A PLAN BY THE END OF
09:35:08 2020 WITH AN ANTICIPATED PRESENTATION EARLY 2021.
09:35:12 WORKING GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS WENT TO WORK OVER SEVERAL
09:35:16 MEETINGS TO CRAFT A DRAFT OF A STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN
09:35:17 THROUGHOUT 2020.
09:35:19 ABOUT -- ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT THE WORKING GROUP
09:35:23 DID TO LONG AT ABOUT TWO DOZEN EXISTING PLANS EXAMINING
09:35:25 VARIOUS ASSETS OF THE AREA.
09:35:28 AND THEY REVIEWED THOSE PLANS AND RECOMMENDATION FROM
09:35:34 THE PLANS AND CONSIDERED THOSE IN THE -- IN THE UPTOWN
09:35:37 STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN AND RANGE FROM COMMUNITY SAFETY
09:35:41 PLANS TO GATEWAY AESTHETIC STUDIES, FLAT STUDIES AND
09:35:46 FUTURE LAND USE STUDIES ALONG VARIOUS CORRIDORS AND
09:35:51 SIDEWALK GAP ANALYSIS TO MENTION THE EXISTING PLANS WE
09:35:52 HAVE TO DRAW FROM.
09:35:56 OBJECTIVES TOWARD ACHIEVING SIX GOALS THAT I AM ABOUT
09:36:00 TO SHARE WITH YOU WERE DEFINED AND ANTICIPATED AND
09:36:03 ACTION STEPS TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS WERE LAID OUT IN A
09:36:05 DRAFT STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
09:36:07 IN THE MIDST OF THAT WORK, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE TALKING
09:36:10 ABOUT 2020, EVERY STAKEHOLDERS HAD CHALLENGES TO
09:36:13 OVERCOME DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, SO THE WORK WAS DELAYED
09:36:16 FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS DURING THAT YEAR AS EVERYONE
09:36:20 FOCUSED ON THE CRISIS AT HAND, AS A RESULT, THE MOU WAS
09:36:24 EXTENDED NEAR THE END OF 2021.
09:36:30 SO AS I MENTIONED, THE SAP IS BASED ON SIX OVERARCHING
09:36:32 GOALS AND SEVEN ACTION STEPS THAT ARE DEVELOPED BY THE
09:36:35 WORK GROUP INTENDED TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS.
09:36:39 AND THE GOALS ARE, ESTABLISHING TAMPA'S UPTOWN AS A
09:36:42 CATALYST FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH AND GLOBAL THOUGHT
09:36:45 LEADERSHIP, PROVIDING EQUITABLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL
09:36:48 TO EMPOWER THE COMMUNITY, BUILDING SUSTAINABLE
09:36:51 INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT INCREASED DENSITY AND
09:36:54 IMPROVED CONNECTION OF THE DISTRICT, ESTABLISHING
09:36:59 APPROPRIATE ZONING AND LAND USE STANDARDS TO ENCOURAGE
09:37:02 INNOVATIVE REDEVELOPMENT IN THE DISTRICT.
09:37:08 A GOVERNMENT PARTNERSHIP IN FUNDING FOR THE UPTOWN
09:37:09 DISTRICT.
09:37:13 AND FOWLER AVENUE AS A TRANSIT-FRIENDLY AND
09:37:16 BIKE-FRIENDLY BOULEVARD FOR THE ACTIVITY OCCURRING IN
09:37:18 THE UPTOWN DISTRICT.
09:37:21 THE WORK GROUP COMPLETED THE DRAFT EARLY THIS SUMMER
09:37:24 AND STAFF WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH
09:37:27 COUNTY REVIEWED THE DRAFT AND WE HELD SEVERAL MEETINGS
09:37:29 TO DISCUSS NEXT STEP.
09:37:34 DURING THOSE MEETING, A CONSENSUS WAS REACHED DUE TO
09:37:36 THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PLAN, THE SAP NEEDED TO BE
09:37:40 REORGANIZED -- THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE SAP NEEDED TO
09:37:44 BE REORGANIZED INTO THREE IMPLEMENTATION PLANS BE
09:37:47 GUIDED WITH THE MOST INFLUENCE OVER THOSE REALMS.
09:37:51 THOSE THREE TRACKS INCLUDE THE INNOVATION ECONOMY BY
09:37:53 TAMPA INNOVATION PARTNERSHIP, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND
09:37:57 INFRASTRUCTURE LED BY THE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF TAMPA,
09:38:01 AND EAST FOWLER CORRIDOR, EAST FOWLER AVENUE CORRIDOR
09:38:04 REPURPOSING WHICH IS LED BY FDOT.
09:38:09 AND SOME DEVELOPMENTS IN EACH OF THESE TRACKS ARE IN
09:38:13 PROGRESS ARE ENCOURAGING.
09:38:17 TAMPA LAUNCHED 501-C-3 ORGANIZATION AND FLORIDA BLUE
09:38:26 MADE A $750,000 COMMITMENT TO HELP FIGHT GENERATIONAL
09:38:31 POVERTY IN THE UPTOWN AREA AND THE OBJECTIVES WILL BE
09:38:34 ADDRESSED IN THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
09:38:37 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS ALSO ENGAGED A CONSULTANT TO
09:38:41 CONDUCT AN EXISTING CONDITION STUDY OF THE
09:38:45 INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREA UPTOWN AND
09:38:47 THAT CONSULTATION AND REPORT IS DUE BACK WITH THE
09:38:52 ANTICIPATE OF JANUARY 2022.
09:38:58 ALSO IN THAT COMMUNITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE TRACK,
09:39:03 CURRENTLY CONDUCTING A STUDY FOR THE TRAIL THAT WILL
09:39:06 CONNECT THE UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE TRAIL NETWORK
09:39:09 ALL THE WAY SOUTH OF THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AND THE
09:39:11 NETWORK AND THE MAIN PART OF THE CITY.
09:39:14 AND THERE IS A SURVEY ONLINE RIGHT NOW GATHERING
09:39:17 FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WE ARE ENCOURAGING ALL
09:39:20 OF OUR CONTACTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND
09:39:23 ALL AWL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO GET THE WORD OUT TO
09:39:25 CONTRIBUTE FEEDBACK TO THAT SURVEY.
09:39:29 IN THE EAST FOWLER TRACT, THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
09:39:33 TRANSPORTATION IS PREPARING TO PREPARE A PD&E FROM
09:39:36 FOWLER AVENUE FROM 275 TO I-75.
09:39:42 AND VENDOR SELECTION IS PLANNED FOR JANUARY 2022.
09:39:45 SO KEY NEXT STEPS, THE REORGANIZATION AND REVISIONS TO
09:39:49 THE -- TO THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN HAS BEEN SHARED
09:39:50 WITH THE WORKING GROUP FOR REVIEW.
09:39:54 AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT INDIVIDUALLY RIGHT NOW AND
09:39:58 WORKING TO RESCHEDULE THAT GROUP TO RECONVENE FOR
09:40:00 DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF THAT DOCUMENT.
09:40:04 BARRING ANY NEED FOR CHANGES, SAP WILL BE PRESENTABLE
09:40:06 BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
09:40:10 MEANWHILE, IMPLEMENTATION OF ACTION STEPS FOR GOALS
09:40:13 WILL BE AN ONGOING PROCESS THAT WILL CONTINUE INTO
09:40:14 2022.
09:40:17 FINDINGS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ASSESSMENT THAT I
09:40:18 MENTIONED.
09:40:23 HART IS NEARING COMPLETION OF A ORIENT TRANSIT PROCESS
09:40:28 AND ARTERIAL BUS RAPID TRANSIT STUDY THAT WILL EXTEND
09:40:32 INTO UPTOWN AND GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE SAP AND THE
09:40:36 PD & E FOR FOWLER WILL BEGIN IN EARNEST AFTER VENDOR
09:40:38 SELECTION FOR THE PROJECT.
09:40:44 ALL OF THE PROJECTS HAVE DESIRED COORDINATION AND THESE
09:40:48 CURRENT AND PLANNED INITIATIVES ACHIEVE THE GOALS OF
09:40:48 THE SAP.
09:40:53 THIS PLANNING PROCESS HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTIVE AND
09:40:57 PRODUCTIVE AND WE WOULDN'T BE HERE WITHOUT YOUR HELP
09:41:01 AND COUNTY BOARD AND STAFF AND STAKEHOLDERS AND TAMPA'S
09:41:03 UPTOWN.
09:41:09 I CAN STOP SHARING MY SCREEN NOW.
09:41:12 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
09:41:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
09:41:14 ANY QUESTIONS.
09:41:15 MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:41:16 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:41:18 EDDIE, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
09:41:19 I APPRECIATE IT A GREAT DEAL.
09:41:23 YOU KNOW, WHENEVER I TALK TO COMMUNITIES IN NORTH TAMPA
09:41:26 AREA, WHETHER IT IS TERRACE PARK, BROOKLYN PARK OR
09:41:29 OTHERS, ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS I ALWAYS GET IS ON
09:41:31 THIS PROJECT AND WHAT IS GOING ON WITH IT.
09:41:34 LAST NIGHT I WAS SPEAKING TO OUR FRIENDS IN COPELAND
09:41:37 PARK AND THIS ISSUE CAME UP AND I WAS ABLE TO GIVE THEM
09:41:41 A BRIEFING IN PART BASED ON YOUR PRESENTATION THAT I
09:41:42 SAW THE OTHER NIGHT.
09:41:44 I APPRECIATE IT.
09:41:48 I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU DO, EDDIE AND MARK SHARPE AND
09:41:50 ALL THE OTHERS DO THERE.
09:41:54 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HANDLE WITH VIGOR, AND
09:41:58 MARK -- I HAVE A SOFT SPOT FOR MARK SHARPE.
09:42:01 I JOKE THAT THE FIRST CAMPAIGN AS A KID AT 18 WAS WITH
09:42:04 HIS CAMPAIGN EXCEPT I WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE AS A KID,
09:42:06 BUT THAT IS JIM DAVIS THERE.
09:42:07 TOO FUNNY.
09:42:12 BUT THIS IS PART, FOR ME, OF A LARGER VISION FOR THE
09:42:14 NORTH TAMPA AREA THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HERE
09:42:18 THAT IS STARTING TO COME TOGETHER LITTLE BY LITTLE.
09:42:21 AND A STOOL WITH DIFFERENT LEGS TO IT.
09:42:24 THE ONE THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS ONE OF ECONOMIC
09:42:27 DEVELOPMENT, HAVING A NARRATIVE FOR THE AREA AND AN
09:42:30 IDENTITY FOR THE AREA BRINGING TOGETHER ALL THE
09:42:32 DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER.
09:42:35 SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT ON CITY COUNCIL THAT WE ARE
09:42:38 DEALING FINALLY WITH THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS PUBLIC
09:42:39 SAFETY FOR THIS AREA.
09:42:41 SOMETHING JUST AS CRITICAL.
09:42:42 FIRE NEEDS, ETC.
09:42:44 FOR THE NORTH TAMPA AREA.
09:42:46 THE BUSCH AND FOWLER CORRIDOR.
09:42:47 SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT.
09:42:50 PART OF A LARGER DIALOGUE THAT WE HAVE WITH FDOT ON
09:42:51 SAFE STREETS.
09:42:54 PART OF A LARGER DIALOGUE WE HAVE WITH REGARDS TO MASS
09:42:59 TRANSIT AND THE ASPIRATION IN 2018 WITH TRANSPORTATION.
09:43:02 ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS I WAS SO VOCAL WITH THAT IS
09:43:04 BECAUSE OF THIS AREA.
09:43:08 THIS AREA SERVING AS SUCH A KEY EXHIBIT AND EXAMPLE WHY
09:43:12 WE NEED ROBUST MASS TRANSIT INVESTMENTS OUTSIDE OF THE
09:43:14 PRESENT REVENUE THAT THE COUNTY AND CITY HAS.
09:43:18 THIS AREA IS SUCH AN EXHIBIT FOR THAT.
09:43:22 TAMPA INNOVATION HAS PLAYED SUCH A PIVOTAL PART.
09:43:25 I REMEMBER WITH THE UNFORTUNATE RIOTS WE HAD A LITTLE
09:43:28 OVER A YEAR AGO, SEEING YOU, EDDIE, AND OTHERS PLACES
09:43:31 AT CROSSOVER CHURCH TO STAND WITH THE COMMUNITY AND
09:43:36 HELP US REBUILD THAT AREA, THE FOWLER AREA AND PARTS OF
09:43:38 BUSCH AREA THAT WERE ATTACKED AT THAT TIME.
09:43:41 YOU PLAYED A REAL, REAL PIVOTAL ROLE.
09:43:47 AND SO MANY DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS THAT I LIKE TO
09:43:48 HIGHLIGHT.
09:43:50 NOT ONLY THE BUSINESSES BUT PLACES THAT FORMED THE
09:43:54 HEART AND SOUL OF THE NORTH TAMPA AREA.
09:43:56 PLACES LIKE CROSSOVER CHURCH.
09:43:59 IT IS A FOR CHRISTOPHER HARRIS, PASTOR TOMMY, EVERYBODY
09:44:03 THERE THAT PLAYS SUCH A PIVOTAL ROLE IN THAT COMMUNION.
09:44:05 THE UADC.
09:44:08 SARAH COMBS RUNNING HER NEW DEAL IN THE UNIVERSITY
09:44:09 AREA.
09:44:13 PLANTING SEEDS OF SOCIAL JUSTICE ONE STEP AT A TIME AND
09:44:15 AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SO MANY DIFFERENT ISSUES THERE.
09:44:18 YOU KNOW LOTS OF ISSUES TO DISCUSS LIKE I SAID.
09:44:23 YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE OF -- OF A CRA -- I KNOW THAT
09:44:26 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TALKED ABOUT
09:44:28 THAT BEFORE IN RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION.
09:44:34 MY VIEW IS, AND I WILL JUST SAY THIS OUT LOUD, SO TO
09:44:37 SPEAK IS, THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A PROCESS GOING AND
09:44:40 STARTING WITHOUT A CRA TO BEGIN TALKS LIKE THAT BEFORE
09:44:44 THIS PROCESS IS FINISHED WOULD TO BE THROW A MONKEY
09:44:47 WRENCH IF SOMETHING IS ALLOWED TO COMPLETE ITSELF WILL
09:44:49 BE PRETTY DARN GOODS.
09:44:53 THE PATH THAT WE ARE GOING ON IS CALCULATED TO LEAD TO
09:44:55 SUCCESS FOR THE NORTH TAMPA AREA.
09:44:56 I BELIEVE IN THE MOU.
09:44:58 I BELIEVE IN THE PROCESS THAT WE STARTED WITH THE CITY.
09:45:04 WE ALSO GOT TO COMMEND THE CASTOR ADMINISTRATION.
09:45:08 BECAUSE THE CAST OR ADMINISTRATION HAS STEPPED UP IN
09:45:11 WAYS THAT PRIOR ADMINISTRATIONS HAS NOT BY SUPPORTING
09:45:14 THE NORTH TAMPA ENTERING INTO THE AGREEMENT AND BY
09:45:14 BELIEVING IN THIS AGREEMENT.
09:45:16 I THINK THAT IS SO IMPORTANT.
09:45:19 THIS IS ALL ABOUT WHAT I CALL THE "LIVABILITY AGENDA."
09:45:22 IT DEALS WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.
09:45:24 IT DEALS WITH WALKABILITY.
09:45:27 IT DEALS WITH ECONOMIC GROWTH.
09:45:32 BUILDS ON WORKING FAMILIES, PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK, ETC.
09:45:35 A LOT OF VETERANS IN THE VA AREA TALKING OF THE FACE OF
09:45:37 THE AREA, THE NARRATIVE OF THE AREA.
09:45:40 WHAT IS -- WHAT IS THE AREA GOING TO BE PROMOTED AS TO
09:45:44 THE OUTSIDE PUBLIC, WHEN YOU HAVE FIRST IMPRESSION OF
09:45:47 BUSCH AND FOWLER THAT PEOPLE COME INTO THE CITY OF
09:45:47 TAMPA.
09:45:50 WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT US WHEN WE HAVE IN PRIOR TERMS
09:45:54 ABANDON THAT AREA, I THINK, IN SO MANY WAYS WHEN IT
09:45:56 COMES TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
09:45:58 SO THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND I WILL BE
09:46:00 MAKING THE MOTION FOR YOU ALL TO COME BACK WITH
09:46:02 ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, BECAUSE WE NEED TO -- WHEN
09:46:06 MOTION TIME COMES, WE NEED TO CONTINUE -- AND I AM CUT
09:46:06 OFF.
09:46:07 THE GONG.
09:46:08 SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE.
09:46:10 AND I NEED TO SHUT UP.
09:46:11 GO AHEAD.
09:46:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. VIERA.
09:46:15 MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:46:18 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST
09:46:19 IMPORTANT PROJECTS HAPPENING IN TAMPA.
09:46:23 AND I THANK COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR BRINGING THEM IN.
09:46:25 I PERSONALLY AND THROUGH MY COMPANY HAVE BEEN
09:46:28 SPONSORING THEIR EFFORTS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS
09:46:31 ITERATION, SIX OR EIGHT YEARS AGO.
09:46:38 I BELIEVE STRONGLY IN DEVELOPING THIS IN THE RIGHT WAY.
09:46:40 WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA?
09:46:44 A LOT OF PEOPLE AT SOUTH TAMPA THAT WORK AT MOFFITT AND
09:46:46 USF AND THE BUSINESSES AROUND.
09:46:49 PEOPLE THAT GO UP TO DOCTORS IN THAT AREA.
09:46:52 ARTISTS WHO INTERACT WITH THE ACTIVITIES GOING ON UP IN
09:46:55 THAT AREA AND TECHNOLOGY WORKERS THAT WORK UP THERE.
09:46:59 SO I THINK THIS AREA IS -- IS VITAL FOR CONNECTIVITY
09:47:00 FOR THE WHOLE CITY.
09:47:03 WHAT WE HAVE REALLY BEEN DOING IS LOOKING FOR ECONOMIC
09:47:06 ENGINES LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT THE PORT A LITTLE WHILE
09:47:10 AGO AND TREMENDOUS ADVANCEMENTS IT HAS MADE.
09:47:13 THIS AREA HAS TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO BE AN ENGINE OF
09:47:15 GROWTH FOR OUR ENTIRE CITY AND REGION.
09:47:18 MANY PEOPLE OVER THE YEARS HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW USF
09:47:21 BECAUSE -- IN THE BEGINNING ANYWAY SEEMED SO FAR AWAY
09:47:24 AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, BUT SEEMED LIKE
09:47:28 LIMITLESS LAND AND NOW SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE USING UP THE
09:47:29 MOST OF LAND.
09:47:32 BECAUSE IT WAS SEEN FAR AWAY, PEOPLE WONDER OF THE
09:47:34 CONNECTIVITY AND BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.
09:47:37 WITH THE CAREFUL EFFORTS OF THIS GROUP, THEY HAVE BEEN
09:47:39 LOOKING AT CONNECTIVITY TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND
09:47:42 ENHANCING THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
09:47:46 HOW TO BE AN ECONOMIC ENGINE AND START COMPANIES AND
09:47:49 RESEARCH EFFORTS GOING ON AT USF.
09:47:52 SO I THINK FOR THE SAKE OF THE CITY AND THE REGION, WE
09:47:53 HAVE TO FULLY SUPPORT IT.
09:47:56 COUNCILMAN VIERA MENTIONED CRAS.
09:48:01 I TALKED TO ROB ROSNER AND OTHER FOLKS, MARK SHARPE AND
09:48:03 OTHERS AROUND IT AND IT SEEMED LIKE OTHER TOOLS THAT
09:48:04 CAN BE USED.
09:48:09 AND ROB HAS SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS ON INCENTIVES AND
09:48:14 OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CRA AND I WOULD BE
09:48:19 IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING IF WE CAN HELP AND ENERGIZE THIS
09:48:22 PROJECT AND ENERGIZE WHAT IS HAPPENING BECAUSE IT IS SO
09:48:24 IMPORTANT TO THE REGION.
09:48:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE.
09:48:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: REALLY QUICKLY.
09:48:31 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS REPORT.
09:48:34 1978 I LIVED AT 15TH AND 131ST.
09:48:39 BACK THEN, THAT WAS LOWER INCOME HOUSING.
09:48:42 I DON'T EVEN THINK IT WAS COLLEGE STUDENT HOUSING UNTIL
09:48:45 YOU GOT TO FOWLER AVENUE.
09:48:50 SIN THENCE, THERE IS A -- THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT --
09:48:53 I DON'T WANT TO SAY FAILURE, BUT YOU HAD UNIVERSITY
09:48:58 SQUARE MALL THAT REALLY STARTED TO GO DOWN HILL AND
09:49:00 NOTHING HAS SUCCEEDED UP IN THAT AREA.
09:49:03 THIS PLAN, NOT ONLY IS IT GOING TO BRING BUSINESSES,
09:49:07 INDUSTRIES, ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO THIS AREA,
09:49:10 BUT IT IS ALSO GOING TO PROMOTE GROWTH AND EMPLOYMENT
09:49:13 FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA.
09:49:15 AND FOR THAT REASON, I WILL STAND BEHIND THIS.
09:49:20 IT IS A GREAT CONCEPT, A GREAT IDEA, AND -- AND YOU AND
09:49:23 MARK SHARPE ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS AREA AND THE
09:49:27 SURROUNDING AREAS AND IMPROVE IT THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE
09:49:28 BEEN DONE 30 YEARS AGO.
09:49:30 THANK YOU.
09:49:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
09:49:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:49:37 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:49:42 AND THANK MARK SHARPE AND MR. VIERA FOR DOING WHAT YOU
09:49:43 HAVE DONE OUT THERE.
09:49:45 HE'S THE COUNCILMAN IN THAT DISTRICT.
09:49:48 IF YOU GO INTO TAMPA, IF YOU DON'T FLY IN YOU WILL
09:49:53 LIKELY DRIVE IN THROUGH THE I-75 CORRIDOR AND LEAD YOU
09:49:54 RIGHT TO THE EXITS.
09:49:58 THE TWO OR THREE EXITS THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH AREA
09:50:01 AND ALREADY COMMITMENTS AND REZONINGS DONE BY THIS
09:50:05 COUNCIL TO ALLOW DIFFERENT CHANGES TO HAPPEN THAT
09:50:08 ENHANCE WHAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING HERE.
09:50:10 THANKS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO START
09:50:13 THEIR PROCESS TO MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
09:50:15 THE MALLS THAT WERE MENTIONED.
09:50:16 LET'S FACE REALITY.
09:50:20 TIME CHANGES -- I AM NOT GOING TO SPEAK AS LONG AS MR.
09:50:23 VIERA BUT I WILL TAKE A COUPLE MORE MINUTES -- IF I
09:50:25 DID, I WOULD BE WORN OUT.
09:50:28 LET ME SAY THIS DOWNTOWN AND YBOR CITY WERE THE ONLY
09:50:31 TWO HUBS YOU COULD BUY ANY TYPE OF GOODS AND SOME
09:50:35 NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAD SOME OTHER SNUFF IT.
09:50:38 THEN YOU HAD TWO MALLS OPEN, NORTH GATE AND BRITTON
09:50:39 PLAZA.
09:50:41 WHAT HAPPENED TO DOWNTOWN IN YBOR CITY?
09:50:46 THEY SUNK BECAUSE PEOPLE WANTED A NEW -- NEW OUTLETS.
09:50:47 A NEW THING.
09:50:48 SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
09:50:51 ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE THE WESTSHORE INDOOR MALL.
09:50:53 THE OTHERS WERE ALL OUTDOOR.
09:50:55 THEN ANOTHER MALL AND ANOTHER MALL, INDOOR.
09:50:58 WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ONES AT NORTH GATE AND THE ONE
09:51:00 BRITTON PLAZA?
09:51:02 THEY SUNK A LITTLE BIT.
09:51:05 THEY HAVE COME BACK, DON'T GET ME WRONG.
09:51:08 BUT A DIFFERENT THING CALLED STAY HOME, HAVE YOUR MEAL
09:51:13 DELIVERED, HAVE YOUR GROCERIES DELIVERED, HAVE YOUR
09:51:15 TIRE DELIVERED.
09:51:18 HAVE EVERYTHING YOU WANT DELIVERED TO YOUR HOUSE BY
09:51:19 AMAZON AND OTHERS.
09:51:22 NOW YOU HAVE A SQUEEZE ON THE MALLS AND THEY ARE
09:51:25 CHANGING THEIR MODE OF OPERATION TO BE MORE
09:51:28 CONVENTIONAL ALL WITHIN.
09:51:32 SO WHAT HAPPENED AT YOUR MALL IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT
09:51:34 IS HAPPENING NOW AT THE OTHER MALLS.
09:51:38 SO YOU ARE GOING TO GET BETTER BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GET
09:51:42 BETTER, BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE THERE NOW HAVE
09:51:45 TAKEN STEPS FORWARD, NOT BACKWARDS, BUT FORWARD TO MAKE
09:51:49 SURE THAT THIS PROCESS CONTINUES ON THE RIGHT WAY.
09:51:52 AND AS YOU WELL KNOW -- I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU --
09:51:54 MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT MOVE IN FROM HERE DRIVE THROUGH
09:51:56 75 COMING THIS WAY.
09:51:59 THEY COME FROM NEW YORK AND MOSTLY NEW ENGLAND STATES,
09:52:02 SOME FROM MICHIGAN, SOME FROM OHIO AND SO FORTH.
09:52:06 THE FIRST THING THEY SEE OF THE EXIT IS THE LOCATION
09:52:09 WHERE ALL OF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
09:52:13 YES, YOU HAVE A CATALYST THERE CALLED BUSCH GARDENS AND THAT
09:52:17 ATTRACTS A LOT OF PEOPLE AND ALSO LIKE WHAT YOU FELLAS
09:52:18 ARE DOING IMPROVING.
09:52:21 THAT IS THE FIRST CONTACT THAT THEY HAVE WITH THE CITY
09:52:21 OF TAMPA.
09:52:24 AND THE FIRST TASTE OF THE FOOD WHEN YOU GO OUT TO EAT
09:52:27 IS NOT THE FOOD THAT YOU TASTE, THE FOOD THAT YOU LOOK
09:52:30 AT THAT LOOKS GOOD OR DOESN'T LOOK TOO GOOD.
09:52:32 THEN THE TASTE COMES NEXT.
09:52:34 THE SAME THING HAPPENING TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
09:52:37 THROUGH YOUR INNOVATIONS AND PROGRESS FORWARD, YOU
09:52:39 CERTAINLY ARE MAKING CHANGES ALREADY.
09:52:41 AND THAT'S WHY THIS AREA IS CONTINUING TO GROW.
09:52:43 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:52:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:52:48 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:52:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:52:51 I HAD TO STEP OUT OF THE ROOM.
09:52:53 IF I MISSED THIS, I APOLOGIZE.
09:52:56 I SAW IN THE ORIGINAL PART OF THE POWERPOINT A
09:52:58 DISCUSSION OF FINANCING ALL THIS.
09:53:01 AND THE FINANCIAL STRUCTURE OF ALL THIS.
09:53:04 AND I KNOW YOU ARE FAIRLY -- IT IS FAIRLY EARLY IN THE
09:53:08 PROCESS, BUT I AM JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT WE MIGHT BE
09:53:10 ANTICIPATING.
09:53:17 IT WOULD SEEM TO ME, YOU KNOW, THAT A CRA FOR THIS AREA
09:53:20 WOULD BE A LOGICAL APPROACH.
09:53:24 MAYBE A JOINT CRA BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.
09:53:25 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
09:53:29 BUT HOW FAR ARE THOSE DISCUSSIONS GOTTEN?
09:53:31 AND DO WE HAVE ANY PROJECTIONS ON WHERE THEY ARE
09:53:32 HEADED?
09:53:35 >> AS YOU MENTIONED, WE ARE STILL A LITTLE BIT EARLY IN
09:53:36 THAT PROCESS.
09:53:39 WE ARE -- WE ARE AWAITING INFRASTRUCTURE ASSESSMENTS
09:53:43 AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS -- WHAT
09:53:46 ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO INVEST MONEY IN.
09:53:49 AND THEN, YOU KNOW, STRATEGIZE OF HOW TO RAISE THAT
09:53:49 REVENUE.
09:53:53 BUT RIGHT NOW THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DETERMINED YET, BUT WE
09:53:55 ARE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OPTIONS.
09:53:58 AS YOU MENTIONED, WE HAVE GOT SOME VERY CREATIVE PEOPLE
09:53:59 ON THE WORKING GROUP.
09:54:02 AND WE ARE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF MODELS FROM AROUND
09:54:04 THE NATION AND THINGS WE CAN TO DO GENERATE THAT
09:54:04 REVENUE.
09:54:07 BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE STILL DOING THOSE ASSESSMENTS
09:54:08 RIGHT NOW.
09:54:10 AND WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE.
09:54:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS FROM OUR EXPERIENCE RUNNING
09:54:15 HOW MANY CRAS?
09:54:18 SEVEN, EIGHT DISTRICTS.
09:54:21 YOU KNOW, I -- I WOULD JUST SAY THE SOONER THE BETTER,
09:54:26 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN CATCH THAT TIF REVENUE
09:54:31 EARLY, YOU KNOW, AS -- AS THESE NEW PROJECTS ARE BEING
09:54:36 BUILT AND THE MALLS BEING REBUILT AND THOSE THINGS.
09:54:38 EACH PROJECT THAT GETS DONE IS ANOTHER SOURCE OF
09:54:41 REVENUE THAT IS MISSED OUT ON.
09:54:44 BUT ANYWAY, I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU HOW TO DO YOUR
09:54:47 JOB AND I AM SURE YOU GOT GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY
09:54:50 FAMILIAR WITH THE CRA PROCESS.
09:54:54 I, FOR ONE, WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT.
09:54:57 AND I THINK IF WE DID IT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD NOT ONLY
09:55:02 BE A HELP TO, QUOTE, SUITCASE CITY ON THE COUNTY'S
09:55:09 SIDE, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, TO THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA
09:55:14 WHERE THE -- WHERE THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ARE SO GREAT.
09:55:16 AND THAT -- THAT DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE THE BUSINESS --
09:55:18 THE BUSINESS NEEDS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
09:55:21 BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS UP THERE ARE MASSIVE.
09:55:24 AND THEY HAVE BEEN IGNORED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
09:55:29 AND I AM SURE IT WILL BE A GREAT CITY-COUNTY COMBINED
09:55:32 EFFORTS TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
09:55:36 SO I ENCOURAGE YOU AND KEEP US POSTED.
09:55:38 >> WILL DO.
09:55:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. CARLSON.
09:55:43 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I CAN ADD IN.
09:55:45 I AM CONCERNED OTHER THAN EAST TAMPA AND WEST TAMPA THE
09:55:48 WAY CRAS HAVE BEEN SET UP IN THE PAST.
09:55:51 IF WE ARE REALLY TRY TO SLIM THE BLIGHT AND POVERTY,
09:55:52 THEY ARE GREAT.
09:55:55 BUT WHAT THEY REALLY -- OUTSIDE OF THOSE AREAS WHAT
09:55:58 HAPPENS IS THE REST OF THE CITY SUBSIDIZES THEM AND
09:56:01 THEY ARE SET UP FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME -- YOU THINK
09:56:04 OF THE WAY CRA MAKES MONEY THROUGH REAL ESTATE
09:56:08 DEVELOPMENT, WHICH REALLY ENCOURAGES GENTRIFICATION.
09:56:13 AND WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THE LONG DISCUSSION NOW BUT
09:56:18 ENCOURAGE TO YOU TALK TO ROB ROSNER, VERY TARGETED,
09:56:21 TIME LIMITED SOLUTIONS THAT DON'T REQUIRE THE CRA TO
09:56:23 SOLVE OTHER THINGS.
09:56:25 PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH DOWNTOWN AND CHANNEL DISTRICT
09:56:32 THE TIMELINE WAS SO LONG IT EXCEEDED THE SLUM AND
09:56:34 BLIGHT OR MAYBE THE DEVELOPMENT WORKED FASTER THAN
09:56:35 EXPECTED.
09:56:41 WE HAVE VERY LIMITED DOLLARS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND
09:56:43 BESIDE THE TARGETED INCENTIVES THEY CAN SET UP.
09:56:46 WHAT WE NEED TO DO HAVE THE DISCIPLINE TO DIRECT MONEY
09:56:47 IN THE AREAS THAT NEED IT.
09:56:51 IT WILL BE THE SAME MONEY IF NOT IN THE CRA IT WILL BE
09:56:53 IN THE GENERAL FUND AND NEED TO TALK TO THE MAYOR'S
09:56:55 OFFICE OF DIRECTING IT.
09:57:00 I AM FULLY INVESTED IN INVESTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
09:57:04 I THINK CRA IS BIG AND THE TIME IS LONG AND ALL ABOUT
09:57:06 REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT WHEN WE NEED TO THINK OF
09:57:08 QUALITY OF LIFE AND LIFTING THINGS UP.
09:57:11 WE CAN'T HAVE CRA MONEY TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES.
09:57:13 SO OTHER KIND OF INNOVATIVE.
09:57:16 NEWER INNOVATIVE WAYS TO LOOK AT.
09:57:18 THANK YOU.
09:57:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BILL, IF I CAN CLARIFY.
09:57:26 CRA IS A MECHANISM WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH BUT IF THERE
09:57:33 ARE OTHERS, I AM LISTENING.
09:57:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BRING THIS IF FOR A LANDING.
09:57:35 MR. VIERA.
09:57:37 >>LUIS VIERA: WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
09:57:41 C RAS ARE WONDERFUL AND WE ARE ON TO SOMETHING GOOD AND
09:57:45 WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE 5% WE AGREE WITH AS IT RELATES
09:57:49 TO THAT USF AREA FOR THE TIME BEING.
09:57:50 THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING.
09:57:51 LESS THAN 30 SECONDS.
09:57:51 THANK YOU.
09:57:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL GIVE THE FINAL COMMENT AND
09:57:55 MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:57:58 YOU KNOW, I SAID FROM DAY ONE.
09:58:01 AND I TOLD MR. SHARPE THE SAME THING.
09:58:04 I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE OF TRYING TO SPRUCE UP FOWLER
09:58:11 AVENUE AND USF AND THOSE AREAS THE ONLY PROBLEM FALLING
09:58:13 SHORT ON THE GOAL LINE IS BUSCH BOULEVARD.
09:58:22 THAT IS THE PROBLEM I HAVE BECAUSE BUSCH GARDENS IS ON
09:58:34 THAT TRIM AND BUSCH GARDENS.
09:58:38 THE CDC AND THAT YOUNG LADY THROUGH ON THE AREA UP ON
09:58:42 15TH STREET WHEN YOU GO 131ST UP NEAR THAT BLIGHTED
09:58:44 AREA THEY ARE WORKING ON.
09:58:49 BUT FOR ME TO STRONGLY SUPPORT A CRA AND YET MY SULPHUR
09:58:54 SPRINGS PEOPLE WILL CRY AND SAY LOOK AT US DOWN HERE
09:58:56 AND FOWLER AVENUE.
09:58:59 FOWLER AVENUE IS NOT WHERE WE WANT IT TO BE BUT IT HAS
09:59:00 LIFE UP THERE.
09:59:05 SO I HAVE TO BE FAIR WITH EVERYBODY ON OUR APPROACH.
09:59:07 TOTAL CRA OR MAYBE MR. CARLSON HAS ANOTHER MECHANISM
09:59:12 IDEAS THAT CAN HELP THOSE OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THOSE
09:59:13 AREAS.
09:59:16 I USED TO LIVE UP THERE, AND I KNOW THE AREA VERY, VERY
09:59:19 WELL AND WHAT I AM GOING TO BE SEEING AND LOOKING AT
09:59:22 RIGHT NOW KIND OF CONCENTRATING.
09:59:27 TALKING ABOUT THE LOWER HALF OF FOWLER AVENUE UP
09:59:31 BETWEEN 129TH, BOUGAINVILLEA, LINEBAUGH.
09:59:36 I AM NOT HEARING ANY OF THAT.
09:59:39 I AM HEARING FOWLER AVENUE.
09:59:41 AND I THINK IN THE FUTURE WE CAN ADDRESS THESE THINGS.
09:59:42 WHEN YOU COME BACK.
09:59:45 WE DON'T HAVE TIME TODAY, BUT I AM JUST SAYING PEOPLE
09:59:48 IN THE LOWER HALF OF BUSCH BOULEVARD WILL RAISE HOLY
09:59:50 HECK IF THEY GET NOTHING.
09:59:51 MR. MIRANDA.
09:59:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:59:54 JUST FOR CLARITY.
09:59:57 WHEN I SPOKE I MENTIONED THE THREE EXITS AND BUSCH
10:00:00 BOULEVARD IS ONE OF THE EXITS.
10:00:03 I AM NOT GOING TO GO FURTHER.
10:00:07 BUT I SAID THAT WITH THE INTENTION YOU HAVE TO LOOK
10:00:08 BROADER.
10:00:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 30 SECONDS.
10:00:10 I SAW YOUR HAND.
10:00:14 >> I THINK WHEN YOU SEE THE FINAL PRODUCT, COUNCILMAN
10:00:14 GUDES.
10:00:18 YOU WILL BE A LITTLE MORE ENCOURAGE WITH WHAT I SHARED.
10:00:20 I PICKED OUT A FEW HIGHLIGHTS THERE.
10:00:23 SOME RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PLAN RIGHT NOW FOR THINGS
10:00:26 LIKE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY A BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT FOR THE
10:00:28 BUSCH CORRIDOR.
10:00:30 THE ARTERIAL GREENWAY.
10:00:34 THE U.S. AND ARTERIAL GREENWAY GOES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
10:00:38 SOUTH OF FOWLER TO THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
10:00:40 AND A NUMBER OF OTHER FACTORS.
10:00:43 JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T MENTION THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS TODAY
10:00:46 DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT THEM.
10:00:51 THE WORKING GROUP IS VERY AWARE THAT THE UPTOWN AREA
10:00:53 EXTENDS SOUTH OF FOWLER AVENUE.
10:00:56 HOPEFULLY YOU WILL BE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU SEE WHEN WE
10:00:57 COME BACK.
10:00:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, SIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
10:01:01 PRESENTATION AND YOUR TIME TODAY WITH US.
10:01:02 ITEM NUMBER 4.
10:01:06 WE NEED TO MOVE, GENTLEMAN.
10:01:09 IF WE WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE TODAY.
10:01:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE ARE DOING GOOD.
10:01:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOW LONG IS THE CITY BUDGET ADVISORY
10:01:15 GOING TO BE GIVING THIS PRESENTATION?
10:01:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT IS.
10:01:20 I HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN A TIME.
10:01:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO TIME CERTAIN.
10:01:26 MAY I SUGGEST A MAXIMUM OF 20 MINUTES.
10:01:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, SIR.
10:01:28 NO, SIR.
10:01:30 IT IS THE BUDGET HEARING.
10:01:34 IF IT GOES A LITTLE LONG WE WILL STOP AND SEE WHERE IT IS
10:01:35 AT.
10:01:36 THAT IS WHAT THEIR JOB IS.
10:01:41 IF WE SAY IT TOO LONG AND A LOT OF FLUFF, WE WILL CUT
10:01:42 OFF AND MOVE ON.
10:01:47 BUT WE DID A WHOLE WORKSHOP ON THE BUDGET -- A SPECIAL
10:01:50 CALL MEETING AND BE FAIR --
10:01:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO ONE IS BEING UNFAIR AND THIS
10:01:54 SPECIAL CALLED MEETING STARTED A LITTLE LATE TOO.
10:01:57 SO IT STARTED VERY LATE, THANK YOU.
10:02:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MR. JOHNSON.
10:02:02 I THINK YOU AND YOUR COMMITTEE ARE UP.
10:02:04 AGAIN WE ARE GOING TO LET YOU GO.
10:02:08 IF IT GETS TOO LONG-WINDED WE WILL LET YOU KNOW AND
10:02:09 HAVE TO CUT IT OFF.
10:02:12 >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN GUDES AND CITY COUNCIL.
10:02:16 I WILL TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF AS POSSIBLE, BUT YOU KNOW,
10:02:20 WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS, AGAIN, I WILL START WITH AN
10:02:23 OPENING AND WE WILL START -- WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT FY
10:02:27 '21 AND WORK OUR WAY TO FY '22.
10:02:30 AND GO RIGHT INTO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:02:35 AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I WILL START OUT AS I DO EVERY YEAR
10:02:41 AND RECOGNIZE MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS EXCUSE ME.
10:02:43 I THINK I AM A LITTLE TOO TALL FOR THE CAMERA HERE BUT
10:02:48 I WANT TO RECOGNIZE VICE-CHAIR CRAIG NEWMAN, WHO WAS
10:02:51 APPOINTED BY MR. CARLSON, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:02:56 I WANT TO RECOGNIZE MR. SCAGLIONE WHO WAS APPOINTED BY
10:02:58 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:03:01 RECOGNIZE JOE FARRELL, WHO WAS APPOINTED BY COUNCILMAN
10:03:01 VIERA.
10:03:09 RECOGNIZE STEPHANIE PONYOR APPOINTED BY COUNCILMAN
10:03:10 DINGFELDER.
10:03:15 AND RECOGNIZE MR. MICHAEL FLIORNO APPOINTED BY
10:03:16 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:03:20 SO WITH THAT, IF --
10:03:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIR, I APOLOGIZE.
10:03:27 >> AND NICHOLAS GLOVER APPOINTED BY YOURSELF, MR.
10:03:31 CITRO.
10:03:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:03:35 I AM SURE NICK WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS.
10:03:37 >> I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT.
10:03:43 LET'S TAKE A BRIEF LOOK AT FY '20-'21 BUDGET.
10:03:46 LAST YEAR DURING OUR PRESENTATION, COUNCILMAN CARLSON
10:03:47 HAD A QUESTION.
10:03:50 AND HIS QUESTION WAS, ARE THERE AREAS OF OPPORTUNITIES
10:03:51 TO SAVE IN THE BUDGET?
10:03:55 WELL, WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WENT BACK AND WE TOOK A
10:04:02 LOOK AT THE BUDGETS FROM FY '18, FY '19, AND FY '20.
10:04:05 IN DOING SO WE FOUND $17 MILLION THAT COULD HAVE BEEN
10:04:07 SAVED AND PLACED IN THE RESERVES.
10:04:10 WELL, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, BECAUSE -- BECAUSE IT WAS --
10:04:14 WE PRESENTED AT THE LAST MINUTE, RIGHT.
10:04:19 SO WITH THAT, WE -- WE LOOKED AT CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.
10:04:23 WE LOOKED AT OTHER SERVICES AND CHARGES.
10:04:30 THIS YEAR WITH THE BUDGET GOING FROM $1.2 BILLION TO
10:04:31 $1.8 BILLION.
10:04:34 WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND IDENTIFIED
10:04:35 AREAS OF SAVINGS.
10:04:39 SO REAL QUICK, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF POINT OUT WHEN WE
10:04:43 LOOK AT FY '21 SPREADSHEETS.
10:04:46 I AM NOT SURE IF IT IS UP THERE -- IT IS DOWN HERE FOR
10:04:46 ME.
10:04:52 IF WE CAN GO TO THE TOTAL DEPARTMENT WHICH A PAGE
10:04:58 NUMBER 4.
10:04:59 OKAY.
10:05:04 AS YOU CAN SEE FY '18 CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, THEY USED
10:05:07 16.5 MILLION.
10:05:11 FY '19, $18 MILLION.
10:05:13 FY '20, $22 MILLION.
10:05:17 AND FY '21, $19 MILLION.
10:05:21 OTHER SERVICES AND CHARGES, $35 MILLION, $34 MILLION,
10:05:26 $36 MILLION, AND THEN $34 MILLION.
10:05:32 LET'S GO TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, PAGE 5.
10:05:34 AND I WILL TELL YOU WHERE I AM GOING WITH THIS BECAUSE
10:05:38 WILL LEAD US UP TO FY '21.
10:05:40 A QUICK SYNOPSIS WHERE WE ARE HEADED.
10:05:43 WE LOOK AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, NOT LOOKING AT
10:05:46 CONTRACTUAL SERVICES AND LOOK AT OTHER SERVICES AND
10:05:47 CHARGES.
10:05:53 $8.3 MILLION, 7.1 MILLION, 8.1 MILLION, 9.6.
10:05:57 THIS HAS BEEN A ROLLING THEME WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS,
10:05:59 NOT JUST PD.
10:06:00 NOT JUST FIRE.
10:06:02 REALLY NO EXPLANATION WHAT THIS MONEY IS.
10:06:05 WHEN I LOOK AT THIS MONEY, I SAY, OKAY, IT IS
10:06:06 UNACCOUNTED FOR.
10:06:13 IT IS NOT REALLY ALLOCATED LINE ITEM TO ANY SPECIFIC
10:06:14 AREA.
10:06:18 SO IT'S WHAT I CALL A "SLUSH FUND."
10:06:35 IF WE CAN NOW GO OVER TO FY '22 BUDGET.
10:06:41 IS IT UP ON TO THE SCREEN?
10:06:43 CAN EVERYBODY SEE IT?
10:06:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE DON'T HAVE IT YET.
10:06:53 >> OKAY.
10:06:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I.T., IS THAT ON OUR END?
10:06:57 OKAY, HERE IT IS.
10:07:00 >> I AM GOING TO WORK FROM MY IPAD IN FRONT OF ME.
10:07:02 GO TO PAGE 3.
10:07:04 WE WILL LOOK AT CITY OF TAMPA NET BUDGET AND THE
10:07:05 GENERAL FUND.
10:07:10 SO FY '19 WE ARE AT $1 BILLION.
10:07:14 FY '20, WE STAYED AROUND $1 BILLION.
10:07:18 FY '21, WE WENT UP $1.2 BILLION.
10:07:21 FY '22, WE ARE AT $1.8 BILLION.
10:07:27 LET'S GO OVER TO SLIDE NUMBER 4 PLEASE.
10:07:29 SAYS CITY OF TAMPA AND SURROUNDING CITIES.
10:07:30 OKAY.
10:07:36 SO WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT MIRRORED CITY.
10:07:40 WE HAVE TAMPA, NET BUDGET 1.8.
10:07:42 ORLANDO WHICH IS AT 1.4.
10:07:45 WE HAVE MIAMI WHICH IS AT 1.3.
10:07:50 WE HAVE FT. LAUDERDALE THAT IS AT 787 MILLION.
10:07:52 WE HAVE ST. PETE WHICH IS AT 710 MILLION.
10:07:57 THE GENERAL FUNDS, OF COURSE, $483 MILLION.
10:07:59 ORLANDO IS AT 545.
10:08:01 MIAMI AT 866.
10:08:04 FT. LAUDERDALE IS AT 398.
10:08:06 ST. PETE AT 303 MILLION.
10:08:12 SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT AND SAY TAMPA, GROWING CITY,
10:08:18 BUT A $1.8 BILLION BUDGET, WHERE WE HAVE COMMUNITIES
10:08:21 THAT REQUIRE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:08:23 WHERE IS THE MONEY ACTUALLY GOING?
10:08:26 LET'S GO OVER TO OUR FIRST PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD
10:08:32 WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:08:37 WHICH I WILL SAY IN FY '20 -- PD -- EXCUSE ME.
10:08:39 LET ME GET THE EXACT AMOUNT.
10:08:47 PD SAVED -- SORRY.
10:08:56 FOR FY '20, ACCORDING TO MY OFFICE BUDGET ANALYSTS,
10:09:05 POLICE DEPARTMENT SAVES A TOTAL OF $6.3 MILLION.
10:09:09 FIRE RESCUE SAVES $6.6 MILLION, WHICH WOULD HAVE GIVEN
10:09:16 THE CITY GOING INTO FY '21 A TOTAL OF $13 MILLION.
10:09:17 SAVINGS.
10:09:20 WHEN WE MET WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, CHIEF DUGAN AND
10:09:26 HIS TEAM, WELL ORGANIZED, REALLY LAID OUT HOW THEY DO
10:09:29 THINGS AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
10:09:33 YOU KNOW THE CHIEF IS OUTGOING, BUT HE CAME VERY
10:09:33 PREPARED.
10:09:37 AND WE ADVISED HIM OF THE SAVINGS.
10:09:40 LET'S GO OVER TO -- LET'S LOOK AT THEIR NUMBERS.
10:09:42 WHEN WE LOOK AT POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:09:48 GO TO SLIDE NUMBER 6, PLEASE.
10:09:51 SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT PD, PERSONNEL.
10:09:53 THEY ARE AT $147 MILLION.
10:09:58 THEIR OPERATING COST FOR FY 2019, $12 MILLION.
10:10:02 SO THE TOTAL WAS $160 MILLION COMBINED.
10:10:07 WHEN WE JUMP DOWN TO FY 2020, YOU WILL SEE THAT THEIR
10:10:14 PERSONNEL WAS PROJECTED AND ADOPTED AT $1446 MILLION.
10:10:19 BUT LOOKS LIKE IN FY '22 BUDGET, WHEN YOU GO INTO THE
10:10:24 NEW BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID -- HAS PUT
10:10:29 TOGETHER, THE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED.
10:10:31 THEY WENT UP TO 147.
10:10:35 AND THE OPERATING COST WENT UP TO $14 MILLION.
10:10:36 NOW WHERE I AM GOING WITH THIS.
10:10:41 WE DID, AGAIN, ANOTHER DIVE INTO THE BUDGET TO HELP US
10:10:45 GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE AS IT PERTAINS TO OUR
10:10:45 RECOMMENDATION.
10:10:49 YOU LOOK DOWN THE FY 2020 AUDIT YOU SEE IN THE GREEN
10:10:52 WHERE PD SAVED THE $6.4 MILLION.
10:10:56 AND RIGHT NOW WITH THE ADJUSTED NUMBERS IN BLACK, YOU
10:11:02 WILL SEE THAT THEY WITH THE FY 2021 AUDIT, YOU WILL SEE
10:11:06 THEY WENT OVER BY $143,000.
10:11:10 AND THE ASTERISKS IN GREEN, IT WILL ACTUALLY SHOW THAT
10:11:15 FOR THE OPERATING COST IT HAD THEM SAVING AT, LIKE, $1
10:11:15 MILLION.
10:11:18 A DIFFERENCE OF $1.1 MILLION.
10:11:20 LET'S GO TO FIRE RESCUE YOU.
10:11:22 AND I WON'T GO THROUGH EVERY -- I WON'T GO THROUGH
10:11:27 EVERY DEPARTMENT, BUT I GO THROUGH THE DEPARTMENTS THAT
10:11:28 -- THAT ARE NECESSARY.
10:11:30 FIRE RESCUE SAME THING.
10:11:34 CONGRATULATIONS TO CHIEF TRIPP.
10:11:36 SHE REALLY -- THIS IS HER FIRST TIME COME TOGETHER
10:11:39 COMMITTEE.
10:11:48 BUT FIRE, WHEN WE LOOK AT -- WHEN WE GO TO SLIDE NUMBER
10:11:49 8, OKAY.
10:11:54 SO FY 2019 THEY WERE AT $82 MILLION.
10:11:58 FOR PERSONNEL OPERATING COST $11.1 MILLION.
10:12:01 FY '20, 84 MILLION.
10:12:06 OPERATING COST 9.6.
10:12:10 FY 2021, AT 11.
10:12:15 AND WE LOOK DOWN AT FY 2021, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE
10:12:17 IS A CHANGE WITH THE NUMBERS.
10:12:19 WENT FROM 94 TO 96.
10:12:25 I DON'T KNOW AND UNDERSTAND WHY THESE CHANGES OCCURRED,
10:12:29 BUT YOU CAN'T REALLY GET A REAL CONSENSUS AS TO JUST
10:12:33 HOW MUCH MONEY THERE IS IN THE BUDGET FOR THESE
10:12:33 DEPARTMENTS.
10:12:37 LET'S GO OVER TO HUMAN RESOURCES AND TALENT
10:12:40 DEVELOPMENT.
10:12:44 LET'S GO TO PAGE 9.
10:12:47 SO HUMAN RESOURCES AND TALENT DEVELOPMENT.
10:12:50 THIS WAS THE REAL INTERESTING MEETING WE HAD WITH HUMAN
10:12:51 RESOURCES.
10:12:55 THEIR OPERATING COST, AS YOU CAN SEE, WAS $4600.
10:13:00 PERSONNEL AT $315,000.
10:13:10 WHEN YOU JUMP OVER TO PAGE NUMBER 10 -- PAGE 10 PLEASE.
10:13:14 SO WHEN YOU JUMP OVER TO PAGE 10, AGAIN, LET'S JUST
10:13:19 LOOK AT -- WE GO BACK TO FY 2019.
10:13:22 THE PERSONNEL WAS $3 MILLION.
10:13:25 THE OPERATING COST WAS $570,000.
10:13:29 BUT WHEN YOU LOOK DOWN BELOW, THAT $3 MILLION, YOU WILL
10:13:31 SEE IT JUMP UP TO $5.4 MILLION.
10:13:36 AND THEIR OPERATING COSTS JUMPED UP TO $86 MILLION.
10:13:41 AND THEN FY '20, AGAIN, THAT 3.1.
10:13:45 BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT FY 2022, NUMBERS IF YOU GO BACK TO
10:13:48 ALL OF THESE NUMBERS YOU SEE THAT EVERY LAST ONE OF
10:13:50 THESE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED.
10:13:54 WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, I CAN TELL YOU IT ALMOST
10:13:58 REPRESENTS AS IF THE CITY IS GOING INTO A DEFICIT.
10:14:02 I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME BECAUSE I KNOW YOU
10:14:05 HAVE QUESTIONS AND PRESSING ISSUE, BUT I DO WANT TO
10:14:20 FAST FORWARD TO -- GIVE ME ONE SECOND HERE.
10:14:24 JUST BEAR WITH ME.
10:14:27 WE DID IT BY DEPARTMENTS AND BY ADMINISTRATORS SO I AM
10:14:31 TRYING TO GET OVER TO WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO HONE IN
10:14:37 ON.
10:14:51 LET'S GO TO PAGE 49, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY DEPARTMENT.
10:14:55 SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF NEWLY CREATED DEPARTMENTS.
10:14:58 AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE MERGED.
10:15:01 SO WITH ALL THE NEW MERGES AND CONSOLIDATIONS THAT HAVE
10:15:08 TAKEN PLACE UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION, YOU NOW HAVE A
10:15:10 POOLED BUDGET AND OPERATING COSTS.
10:15:14 SO WHEN WE -- WHEN WE LOOK AT ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES --
10:15:16 AT THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY DEPARTMENT.
10:15:20 LET'S GO OVER TO PAGE 50.
10:15:25 THE COMMON THEME HERE WITH ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS IS IF
10:15:28 THEY ADOPTED -- IF THEY PROJECTED A NUMBER AND ADOPTED
10:15:34 A BUDGET, SOMEHOW THEY WENT BACK AND THEY CHANGED.
10:15:40 SO WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A REAL SENSE OF JUST HOW MUCH
10:15:44 MONEY THE CITY HAS AND THE DEPARTMENT HAS TO JUSTIFY
10:15:48 THE $1.8 BILLION BUDGET.
10:15:51 THERE WAS ONE OTHER DEPARTMENT, DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
10:15:53 MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.
10:15:59 LET'S GO OVER TO SLIDE 51.
10:16:02 AGAIN, AS YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, WHEN -- WHEN THE
10:16:06 DEPARTMENTS CAME TO MEET WITH US, THIS IS WHAT THEY
10:16:07 PRESENTED.
10:16:08 THESE PIE CHARTS.
10:16:11 THESE PIE CHARTS REALLY DON'T GET YOU MUCH INFORMATION
10:16:16 TO IDENTIFY JUST EXACTLY WHERE THE DEPARTMENTS ARE AS
10:16:19 IF PERTAINS TO SPENDING.
10:16:23 IF YOU GO OVER TO PAGE 52.
10:16:25 EXCUSE ME IF I FEEL A LITTLE DREARY.
10:16:28 I HAVE BEEN TRAVELING ALL NIGHT TO GET BACK.
10:16:31 I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING THIS AT 5:01.
10:16:35 IF I SEEM A LITTLE OFF, IT IS BECAUSE I AM A LITTLE
10:16:37 LAGGED.
10:16:41 FY 2019, THEY HAD NO BUDGET BECAUSE THIS DEPARTMENT DID
10:16:43 NOT EXIST.
10:16:49 BUT SOMEWHERE THERE IS 6.7 MILLION -- $6.7 MILLION
10:16:52 SLATED FOR FY 2019.
10:16:55 THE OPERATING COST $487,000.
10:16:59 IF YOU GO DOWN TO FY 2020, $7 MILLION.
10:17:04 YOU LOOK AT THE OPERATING COST, $491,000 PROJECTED FOR
10:17:07 FY '21, $6.3 MILLION.
10:17:11 OPERATING, 538.
10:17:17 IF YOU GO TO FY '22, PROJECTED 7.1 AND OPERATING COST
10:17:18 IS 766.
10:17:22 NOW LET'S GO TO PAGE 53.
10:17:25 HOUSING AN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION.
10:17:31 AGAIN, THEIR OPERATING COST OF $161,000 AND PERSONNEL
10:17:33 IS 1.34.
10:17:36 THAT IS WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION PRESENTED TO US WHEN
10:17:38 THEY CAME BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE.
10:17:41 LET'S GO TO PAGE 54, PLEASE.
10:17:46 AS YOU CAN SEE, HOUSING HAS NO NUMBERS TO REPORT.
10:17:51 ACCEPT FOR FY '21, ADOPTED $1.3 MILLION AND ADOPTED
10:17:57 $161,000 FOR OPERATING COSTS.
10:18:02 SO LET'S JUMP OVER TO OUR PRESENTATION -- OUR
10:18:15 RECOMMENDATION, PLEASE.
10:18:27 OKAY.
10:18:30 SO I HAVE ALREADY -- I HAVE ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED ALL OF
10:18:49 MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS BEAR WITH ME HERE.
10:19:01 ALL RIGHT.
10:19:09 SO LET'S GO OVER TO PAGE 4.
10:19:13 PAGE 4.
10:19:18 YOU ARE ON PAGE 5.
10:19:21 >> SAYS 4 THERE, BUT SHOULD BE PAGE 3.
10:19:23 GO TO PAGE 3.
10:19:23 SORRY.
10:19:24 THERE WE GO.
10:19:28 SO WE MET WITH THE FOLLOWING DEPARTMENTS.
10:19:31 POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE RESCUE, HUMAN RESOURCES,
10:19:33 CONTRACT ADMINISTERING, PURCHASING DEPARTMENT,
10:19:35 NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, PARKS AND
10:19:38 RECREATION DEPARTMENT, ART AND CULTURAL AFFAIRS,
10:19:42 MARKETING AND COMMUNICATION, TECHNOLOGY INNOVATION,
10:19:45 INFRASTRUCTURE MOBILITY, LOGISTICS AND ASSET
10:19:48 MANAGEMENT, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, SOLID WASTE,
10:19:51 REVENUE AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT, INTERNAL AUDIT
10:19:54 DEPARTMENT, CHIEF OF STAFF, CITY ATTORNEY, GOVERNMENT
10:19:57 AFFAIRS AND STRATEGIC INITIATIVES.
10:20:01 LET'S GO OVER TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:20:03 NOW UNDER PAGE 4.
10:20:05 PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS 2018, WE RECOMMENDED THE
10:20:10 MILLAGE RATE INCREASE, PARKING AUDIT, PARKS AND
10:20:14 RECREATION, MAINTENANCE FEES, WATER, WASTEWATER, MASTER
10:20:14 PLAN.
10:20:17 THE NORTH TAMPA EMPLOYEE HEALTH CLINIC.
10:20:20 PARKING AUDIT.
10:20:22 HUMAN RESOURCES PERSONNEL COST.
10:20:25 IN 2020, PARKING RATE STUDY.
10:20:26 THE P CARD PROGRAM.
10:20:28 POLICE BODY CAMS.
10:20:29 NORTH TAMPA HEALTH CLINIC.
10:20:33 IN 2021, WE RECOMMENDED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND
10:20:35 NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT, THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT
10:20:40 EXPANSION, PARKING RATE INCREASE, DECREASE SPEND OF
10:20:42 CONTRACT SERVICES AND OTHER CHARGES.
10:20:47 LET'S GO OVER TO THE NEXT PAGE, PLEASE.
10:20:49 WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THE SUCCESSFUL COMMITTEE
10:20:50 RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:20:54 NORTH TAMPA EMPLOYEE HEALTH CLINIC, THE PARKING RATE
10:21:00 STUDY, THE P CARD PROGRAM, POLICE BODY CAMS AND THE
10:21:04 PARKING RATE INCREASE AND PARKS DEPARTMENT.
10:21:04 NEXT SLIDE.
10:21:08 NOW GET TO FY '22 COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:21:11 WE ARE LOOKING AT AN INCREASE IN BUDGET FOR AFFORDABLE
10:21:14 HOUSING, INCREASE OF CITY COUNCIL'S BUDGET, ADDITIONAL
10:21:19 FUNDS FOR FLEET UPGRADE, REVIEW OF ALL CITY CONTRACTS,
10:21:23 INTERNAL AUDIT EXPANSION, HOUSING DEPARTMENT TO BE A
10:21:26 STAND-ALONE DEPARTMENT WITH A $3 MILLION FOR PERSONNEL
10:21:31 AND $1.5 MILLION FOR OPERATING BUDGET AND ALSO EXPANDS
10:21:38 THE CBFC AS A COMPLETE FINANCE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
10:21:40 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:21:45 NOW WITH ALL THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE JUST LAID
10:21:45 OUT.
10:21:48 WHAT WE DID AS A COMMITTEE WE LOOKED A LOOK AT VARIOUS
10:21:49 IT DEPARTMENTS.
10:21:54 AND, AGAIN, YOU SEE THAT AREA "OTHER SERVICES AND
10:21:55 CHARGES."
10:21:59 "OTHER SERVICES AND CHARGES" AGAIN IS WHAT I REFER TO
10:22:01 AS A "SLUSH FUND."
10:22:04 A RAINY DAY FUND.
10:22:07 SO WHAT WE DID WAS LOOK AT EACH DEPARTMENT, AND WE
10:22:11 LOOKED AT WHAT THEIR ROLLING AVERAGE WAS OVER A
10:22:15 THREE-YEAR SPAN FROM 2019 TO 2021.
10:22:20 WE EVEN WENT AS FAR BACK 2018 PRIOR YEAR, BUT WE LOOKED
10:22:21 AT WHAT THEY WERE AVERAGING.
10:22:24 IN LOOKING AT WHAT THEY WERE AVERAGING, WE SAID, YOU
10:22:29 KNOW WHAT, THEY CAN DO MORE WITH LESS BECAUSE THEY ARE
10:22:32 REALLY NOT SPENDING ALL OF THIS MONEY, BECAUSE THIS
10:22:34 MONEY IS JUST CONSTANTLY ROLLING OVER.
10:22:39 SO IN ORDER TO GIVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING $4 MILLION, WE
10:22:42 LOOKED AT THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAD THE HIGHEST NUMBER
10:22:45 OF OTHER SERVICES AND CHARGES.
10:22:52 SO FOR PD, WE PULLED $3 MILLION FROM TPDS.
10:22:54 FROM THE OTHER SERVICES AND CHARGES, FOR FIRE RESCUE.
10:22:58 WE PULLED $2 MILLION.
10:23:02 FOR HUMAN RESOURCES, WE PULLED $1.7 MILLION.
10:23:05 CONTRACT SERVICES, FOR COUNTIES, WE PULLED $182,000.
10:23:10 NEIGHBORHOODS, WE TOOK -- EXCUSE ME, $1.6 MILLION.
10:23:14 PARKS AND REC WE TOOK 1.1.
10:23:16 MARKETING TOOK 51.
10:23:18 TECHNOLOGY, 2.5.
10:23:21 LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT 3,000.
10:23:23 FACILITIES, 1.8.
10:23:25 REVENUE AND FINANCE, 26,000.
10:23:27 CHIEF OF STAFF, 3,000.
10:23:28 THE CITY ATTORNEY, 11,000.
10:23:32 CONVENTIONS WE TOOK 3.5.
10:23:34 PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, 113.
10:23:38 DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, 15,000.
10:23:41 EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY, 17,000.
10:23:46 WE TOOK THIS AND ALLOCATED -- WE CAME UP WITH A TOTAL
10:23:47 OF $16 MILLION.
10:23:49 $16.1.
10:23:53 AND WE DECIDED WITH THAT $16 MILLION THAT WE WOULD
10:23:56 RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL THAT $4 MILLION OF THAT GOES
10:24:00 TOWARD AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:24:02 $1 MILLION GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
10:24:05 WHY ARE WE LOOKING TO INCREASE CITY COUNCIL'S BUDGET?
10:24:07 THE CITY IS EXPANDING.
10:24:12 IT'S GROWING, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE IS GREATER
10:24:14 RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE HORIZON.
10:24:18 YOU HAVE ONE LEGISLATIVE AID.
10:24:22 ONE SUPPORT STAFF AND A GREATER DEDICATED WORK SPACE
10:24:26 THAT IS A LITTLE LARGER WHERE EVERYBODY CAN MOVE ABOUT.
10:24:29 WE LOOKED AT $4.5 MILLION FOR THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
10:24:33 AS I SAID, $3 MILLION FOR PERSONNEL.
10:24:34 1.5 FOR OPERATING COST.
10:24:35 WHY?
10:24:37 BECAUSE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MANAGE ALL THESE PROGRAMS
10:24:40 AS IT PERTAINS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:24:44 THEY NEED TO BE THEIR OWN STAND-ALONE DEPARTMENT IN
10:24:47 ORDER FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO REALLY BE INSTITUTED
10:24:50 AND PROPERLY MANAGED, IT NEEDS TO HAVE -- IT NEEDS TO
10:24:53 BE HIS OWN STAND-ALONE DEPARTMENT.
10:24:55 THE CITY IS GROWING.
10:24:59 GROWING EXPONENTIALLY AND RENTAL RATES ARE GOING UP,
10:25:02 AND THE LOWER HALF WHO HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.
10:25:04 THEY CAN GO OUT TO THE COUNTY BUT DEALING WITH
10:25:09 LANDLORDS -- EXCUSE ME, THAT ARE -- YOU KNOW, THEY ARE
10:25:10 SUBSTANDARD.
10:25:14 THEY DON'T KEEP UP WITH THE PROPERTY.
10:25:15 IT IS RUNDOWN.
10:25:16 IF WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE
10:25:22 HOUSING FOR THOSE WHO ARE NEED, LET'S DO IT.
10:25:25 WE LOOKED AT $4 MILLION FOR FLEET UPGRADES.
10:25:29 WHEN YOU LOOK AT TPD, GLAD TO SEE SOME VEHICLES ARE
10:25:31 BEING UPGRADED.
10:25:33 WHEN YOU LOOK AT CODE ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES.
10:25:35 WHEN WE LOOK AT FIRE RESCUE.
10:25:37 THEY NEED CARS.
10:25:38 THEY NEED ENGINES.
10:25:41 WE NEED TO START DOING THIS AND NOT JUST WAIT FOR THE
10:25:44 COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX, BUT IF WE HAVE THE MONEY HERE
10:25:46 IN THE BUDGET, WHY NOT USE IT.
10:25:47 LET'S ALLOCATE IT THE RIGHT WAY.
10:25:51 AND THEN WE -- WE GAVE $2.6 MILLION FOR ADDITIONAL
10:25:54 STAFF FOR DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE IN NEED, THAT REALLY
10:25:55 NEED IT, OKAY.
10:26:01 THAT IS WHERE THE $16 MILLION CAME FROM AND THOSE ARE
10:26:04 THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE AREAS WHERE WE ARE LOOKING TO
10:26:07 ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS TO.
10:26:10 AGAIN, IF YOU GO OVER TO PAGE 9, IT GIVES YOU A
10:26:14 BREAKDOWN OF WHY WE LOOK TO INCREASE THE CITY COUNCIL'S
10:26:17 BUDGET BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL PROBABLY SAY, WHY DO WE NEED
10:26:19 TO INCREASE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET.
10:26:21 A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
10:26:24 WE NEED TO HAVE A WELL-BALANCED BODY OF GOVERNMENT, NOT
10:26:26 JUST THE ADMINISTRATION BUT ON THE COUNCIL THAT
10:26:31 REPRESENT THE DISTRICTS THAT MAKE UP THIS CITY.
10:26:32 ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE ARE STRONGLY
10:26:36 RECOMMENDING AND URGING THAT THE COUNCIL REALLY TAKE A
10:26:40 LOOK AT IS HIRING OF A BUDGET ANALYST TO WORK WITH THE
10:26:44 CBFC, THE CITIZEN BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.
10:26:48 BECAUSE YOU ALL RECEIVE THIS BUDGET THAT COMES FROM THE
10:26:51 ADMINISTRATION AND BECAUSE OF YOUR SCHEDULE.
10:26:53 YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH IT.
10:26:58 SO YOU NEED SOMEONE DEDICATED ON A DAILY BASIS THAT IS
10:27:02 CONSTANTLY MONITORING THE MONEY, THAT IS MONITORING THE
10:27:04 DOLLARS, WHERE THEY ARE GOING, WHERE THEY ARE AIR
10:27:04 MARKED FOR.
10:27:08 ARE WE REALLY SEEING THESE PROJECTS THROUGH WHAT ARE
10:27:10 THE STARTS AND WHAT ARE THE FINISHES.
10:27:14 SEEM LIKE A LOT OF ROLLOVER AND THERE IS REALLY NOT A
10:27:15 LOT OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:27:21 SO THAT IS WHY THAT BUDGET ANALYST COMES INTO PLACE FOR
10:27:21 CITY COUNCIL.
10:27:26 WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF YOUR WORK
10:27:26 SPACE.
10:27:28 WHY -- WHY THE EXPANSION OF THE WORK SPACE?
10:27:31 WELL, IF YOU APPROVE -- AND IF THE ADMINISTRATION
10:27:35 AGREES TO IT, THEN THERE WILL BE AN ASSISTANT TO THE
10:27:38 LEGISLATIVE AID AND BOTH OF THEM CAN TACKLE ISSUES THAT
10:27:41 COME ABOUT FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
10:27:43 THAT -- THAT IS WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT.
10:27:47 AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL $550,000 THAT IS GOING TO BE
10:27:49 SLIGHTED FOR ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL, IF NEEDED.
10:27:51 IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE USED AT THE SAME TIME, BUT THE
10:27:54 BUDGET NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED A LITTLE BIT MORE.
10:27:57 GO TO PAGE 10.
10:28:03 AGAIN, LET'S LOOK -- COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND
10:28:05 NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT.
10:28:06 WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR.
10:28:08 WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN THIS YEAR.
10:28:10 THERE ARE A LOT OF PROGRAMS IN THE CITY THAT CAN HELP,
10:28:12 YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA.
10:28:16 THAT CAN HELP PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA, WEST OF GANDY THAT
10:28:18 WANT TO BECOME HOMEOWNERS.
10:28:20 THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO BECOME HOMEOWNERS.
10:28:27 THEY GO OUT AND WORK AND THEY DON'T QUALIFY BECAUSE
10:28:30 THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT THEIR FINANCES TOGETHER.
10:28:32 WE HAVE THE DARE TO DREAM.
10:28:36 WE NEED TO INFORM AND EDUCATE THE INDIVIDUALS TO ARE
10:28:38 LOOKING TO BECOME HOMEOWNERS SO THEY ARE NOT.
10:28:42 I DON'T WANT TO CALL THEM VICTIMS, BUT I WANT TO SAY
10:28:46 THEY ARE NOT A CIRCUMSTANCE OF THE -- OF THE REAL
10:28:48 ESTATE BOOM THAT IS GOING UP THAT IS PUSHING PEOPLE
10:28:49 OUT.
10:28:54 AND THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO LIVE IN A REAL INHABITABLE
10:28:56 LIVING SPACE.
10:29:02 SO SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO -- WE REALLY NEED
10:29:06 TO LOOK AT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT
10:29:13 REALLY, REALLY TAKES A STRONG LOOK AT THIS AND AFFORD
10:29:16 HOUSING AND REALLY GETTING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND
10:29:19 EDUCATING AND INFORMING THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE
10:29:26 LOOKING FOR HOME OWNERSHIP AND LOOKING FOR AFFORDABLE
10:29:29 HOUSING.
10:29:31 WHEN I LOOK AT THE HIGH-RISES GOING UP IN THE CITY OF
10:29:34 TAMPA AND THEY SAY WE ARE PUTTING UP THE ROME PROCESS
10:29:35 AND HELP THOSE OF EAST TAMPA.
10:29:37 NO, IT'S NOT.
10:29:40 IT IS GOING TO HELP THOSE OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, THOSE OF
10:29:40 TAMPA HEIGHTS.
10:29:43 WHEN I LOOK AT EAST TAMPA, I LOOK AT THE HEART OF EAST
10:29:48 TAMPA, WHICH IS NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, 15TH OR 22ND, BUT
10:29:49 GO EAST OF IT.
10:29:51 EAST NORTH AND SOUTH.
10:29:55 WHEN I LOOK AT SOUTH TAMPA, I AM NOT JUST LOOKING AT
10:29:57 WHERE THE PLANT HIGH SCHOOL AREA.
10:30:00 I AM LOOKING AT WEST OF GANDY, OVER BY THE ROBINSON
10:30:06 AREA, WHERE THOSE AREAS ARE TREMENDOUSLY AFFECTED.
10:30:10 SO GOING BACK TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, WE RECOMMEND THAT
10:30:14 THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, TAKE $4 MILLION AND APPLY IT TO
10:30:17 AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH WILL APPLY IT ON TOP OF THE 16
10:30:23 MILLION THAT THE MAYOR HAS SLATED AND IF YOU TAKE THE
10:30:26 $5 MILLION FROM SOLID WASTE, THAT WILL GIVE AFFORDABLE
10:30:29 HOUSING $25 MILLION.
10:30:34 THE MILLION DOLLAR EXPANSION FOR CITY COUNCIL.
10:30:36 $4.5 MILLION FOR THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
10:30:40 $4 MILLION FOR FLEET UPGRADES AND $2.6 MILLION FOR
10:30:44 ADDITIONAL STAFF FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT NEED.
10:30:48 INTERNAL AUDIT IS A DEPARTMENT THAT WE MET WITH.
10:30:52 AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE INTERNAL AUDIT DEPARTMENT, THE
10:30:55 INTERNAL AUDIT DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE OPERATING IN A
10:30:58 CAPACITY OF WHICH IT WAS CREATED TO DO SO.
10:31:00 AND IT IS -- I -- IT'S NOT.
10:31:05 ACCORDING TO MY -- MY TAKEAWAY FROM IT IN MEETING WITH
10:31:05 THAT DEPARTMENT.
10:31:08 WHILE THE DIRECTOR DID NOT SAY I NEED THIS, I NEED
10:31:09 THAT.
10:31:13 BUT JUST FROM LISTENING TO WHAT THAT DEPARTMENT IS
10:31:20 GOING THROUGH AND LOSING A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PERSONNEL,
10:31:22 IT'S INEFFECTIVE.
10:31:26 BUDGET AND FINANCE SHOULD NOT BE DOING EXTERNAL AUDITS.
10:31:29 SHOULD NOT HAVE AN EXTERNAL COMPANY COMING IN AUDITING
10:31:30 THEIR DEPARTMENT.
10:31:33 IT SHOULD BE THE INTERNAL AUDITING DEPARTMENT.
10:31:35 AGAIN THAT IS WHERE THAT BUDGET ANALYST COMES INTO
10:31:36 PLAY.
10:31:40 THAT IS WHERE INTERNAL AUDIT REALLY NEEDS TO OPERATE ON
10:31:51 ITS OWN INDEPENDENCE AND SCHEDULED
10:31:52 AUDIT.
10:31:55 I WILL CLOSE IT OUT AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS
10:31:56 AND COMMENTS.
10:31:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. JOHNSON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
10:31:59 REPORT.
10:32:01 I CAN TELL THAT THE COMMITTEE DID SOME WORK HERE.
10:32:05 GO TO COUNCILMEMBERS FOR COMMENT.
10:32:05 MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:32:07 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
10:32:09 I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.
10:32:12 I WOULD LIKE TO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU PUT INTO
10:32:13 THIS AND ALL YOUR MEMBERS.
10:32:16 I WANT TO ASK YOU OUT OF INTEREST, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW
10:32:18 HOW THIS COMMITTEE WORKED.
10:32:21 DID ALL MEMBERS SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE?
10:32:24 >> WE HAD A FINAL APPROVAL CALL, YES.
10:32:25 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:32:27 WAS IT UNANIMOUS?
10:32:29 >> IT WAS UNANIMOUS.
10:32:33 ONLY ONE MEMBER WHO WAS NOT PRESENT AND THAT IS BECAUSE
10:32:34 A FAMILY EMERGENCY.
10:32:37 THAT WOULD BE MR. FARRELL.
10:32:40 SO -- BUT EVERYONE ELSE WAS ON THE CALL.
10:32:42 WE DISCUSSED IT IN LENGTH.
10:32:45 AND WE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED IT.
10:32:46 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:32:47 THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:32:50 YEAH, I MEAN -- I HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THIS JUST OFF
10:32:51 THE TOP.
10:32:54 I MEAN WITH $5 MILLION OUT -- UNLESS I AM READING IT
10:32:57 ALL OUT OF POLICE AND FIRE.
10:32:59 $1 MILLION OUT OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
10:33:02 I MEAN I -- BEFORE WE GO THERE, I WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE
10:33:05 COMMITTEE HEADS -- I WILL HAVE TO ASK -- I GUESS FOR A
10:33:09 LITTLE BIT CHIEF DUGAN, CHIEF TRIPP, MISS HILLS, IS
10:33:15 THIS REALLY A WASTE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, ETC., ETC.
10:33:18 YOU KNOW GOING THERE 110%.
10:33:22 I SPEAK FOR MYSELF -- AND AGAIN MAYBE I -- MAYBE I
10:33:25 MISREAD THIS BUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS MORE FOR CITY
10:33:28 COUNCIL -- NOW LET ME -- $1 MILLION.
10:33:30 YEAH, I -- YEAH.
10:33:33 I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
10:33:35 >> MR. VIERA, IF I MAY --
10:33:38 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY -- IF I MAY.
10:33:42 I JUST RESPECTFULLY WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT UNDER ANY
10:33:43 CIRCUMSTANCES.
10:33:45 I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE NEEDS, ETC.
10:33:47 BUT I LOOK AT PRIORITY, ETC.
10:33:51 JUST FOR -- FOR ME IN MY OWN HOUSE, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT
10:33:51 THAT.
10:33:53 BUT THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD THINGS.
10:33:57 YOU KNOW WHAT WE LOOK FOR YOU ALL TO DO IS A LOT OF
10:34:00 WHAT WE SEE HERE TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, GIVE US
10:34:02 IDEAS, RIGHT, AND WHATNOT.
10:34:06 AND YOU ARE DOING THAT HERE AND WE THANK YOU 110% FOR
10:34:06 THAT.
10:34:08 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:34:11 >> MR. VIERA, IN PARTICULAR, RESPONDING TO YOUR COMMENT, SIR.
10:34:15 WE ARE NOT TOUCHING FIRE, PD, PARKS AND REC'S OPERATING
10:34:19 BUDGET OR TOUCHING THEIR PERSONNEL BUDGET.
10:34:23 AGAIN, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION LAST YEAR,
10:34:26 THIS YEAR, WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER SERVICES AND
10:34:26 CHARGES.
10:34:30 THAT IS UNACCOUNTED FOR REVENUE, SIR.
10:34:32 THAT IS NOT SPOKEN FOR.
10:34:35 AND I CAN TELL YOU DURING OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS I HAVE
10:34:37 ASKED FOR THE BREAKDOWNS OF THAT.
10:34:41 AND WE GOT A VAGUE RESPONSE.
10:34:45 SO, AGAIN, WHEN I LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND IN MY OFFICE,
10:34:47 MY PERSONAL OFFICE LOOKS AT THE BUDGET AND WE ARE
10:34:51 CONSTANTLY GOING OVER IT FIGURING OUT WHERE THIS MONEY
10:34:54 -- WHAT IS THIS MONEY AND THE ADMINISTRATION STILL
10:34:57 DOESN'T REALLY BREAK IT DOWN AND SAYS THIS IS WHAT
10:35:02 THESE -- THIS REVENUE IS EARMARKED FOR, LINE ITEM BY
10:35:04 LINE ITEM, IT IS A SLUSH FUND TO ME.
10:35:06 A RAINY DAY FUND.
10:35:10 WHEN YOU ARE -- WHEN YOU MANAGE PROFIT AND LOSS, YOU
10:35:12 HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR EVERY DOLLAR.
10:35:15 AND YOU HAVE TO -- YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT IS LINE
10:35:16 ITEM BY LINE ITEM.
10:35:20 AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, I WRITE A CHECK OUT FRONT.
10:35:22 I DON'T WRITE A CHECK FROM BEHIND.
10:35:25 THAT MEANS I ALWAYS HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR EVERY DOLLAR
10:35:25 THAT COMES IN.
10:35:28 AND EVERY DOLLAR THAT GOES OUT.
10:35:33 SO RIGHT NOW, OTHER SERVICES AND CHARGES, IT IS
10:35:36 UNACCOUNTED FOR AND, AGAIN, WE HAVE ASKED FOR AN
10:35:40 EXPLANATION AS TO WHAT THIS LINE ITEM -- THIS ITEM IS.
10:35:44 AND WE, AGAIN, ARE NOT GETTING THAT ANSWER.
10:35:46 SO THAT'S WHY THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.
10:35:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. JOHNSON, MR. DINGFELDER INFORMED
10:35:53 ME THAT MR. ROGERO WILL BE ON THE LINE.
10:35:58 MAYBE ONCE WE GO THROUGH COUNCILMEMBERS MAYBE HE CAN
10:36:00 EXPLAIN TO COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:36:03 MR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:36:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF, THE $1
10:36:08 MILLION FOR CITY COUNCIL.
10:36:10 I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT.
10:36:11 THE BUDGET ANALYST.
10:36:15 BEYOND THAT I WOULDN'T ADD ANY MORE MONEY.
10:36:19 I WILL RESERVE MY QUESTION FOR THE BUDGET HEARING IF,
10:36:22 MR. ROGERO GETS ON THE LINE.
10:36:25 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE COMMITTEE
10:36:28 MEMBERS TO BE THOROUGH AND BOLD.
10:36:31 I APOLOGIZE YOU AND I WERE TRYING TO GET TOGETHER AND I
10:36:34 WASN'T ABLE TO AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A MORE
10:36:37 IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION WITH YOU IN THE NEXT WEEK.
10:36:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:36:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT YOU AND YOUR
10:36:45 HARDWORKING BOARD.
10:36:48 BUT PUT IN LONG HOURS AT NO PAY.
10:36:49 AND I THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
10:36:52 AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING IT BRIEF.
10:36:56 I KNOW THAT FIRE DEPARTMENT IS DOWN 27 FIRE FIGHTERS.
10:37:00 THAT HAVE -- THAT -- THAT TAKES OUT OF THEIR PAY.
10:37:03 WITH A GRADUATING CLASS COMING IN.
10:37:06 SO WITH A GRADUATING CLASS COMING IN, EVEN IF WE WERE
10:37:10 TO MAKE MINIMAL OF $35,000 A YEAR THAT IS ALMOST $1
10:37:13 MILLION THAT IS UNACCOUNTED FOR BECAUSE THOSE PAYMENTS
10:37:15 HAVEN'T BEEN PAID OUT.
10:37:17 THAT MIGHT BE WHERE SOME OF YOUR FIGURES ARE TESTIMONY
10:37:19 FROM.
10:37:23 SOME THE FIGURES THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, ARE THEY
10:37:27 DISCRETIONARY OR ARE THEY CONTINGENCY FUNDS?
10:37:30 >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
10:37:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS THE REASON WHY I AM ASKING IT.
10:37:36 >> A GOOD QUESTION AND QUESTION YOU WILL HAVE TO ASK
10:37:36 THE ADMINISTRATION.
10:37:39 YOU HAVE TO ASK THE CFO.
10:37:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THANK YOU.
10:37:42 I THANK YOU.
10:37:44 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD WHEN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
10:37:46 ASKED FOR A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TO DISCUSS THE
10:37:49 FINANCES, I HAD ASKED FOR MORE STAFFING.
10:37:53 AND THAT INCLUDES MORE POLICE OFFICERS, MORE FIRE
10:37:58 FIGHTERS, MORE IN CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, MORE IN CODE
10:38:00 ENFORCEMENT.
10:38:03 AS THESE NEW -- IF -- IF I AM GRANTED THOSE OR IF THE
10:38:06 CITY IS GRANTED THOSE, AS THESE NEW EMPLOYEES KEEP
10:38:10 COMING IN, THAT IS GOING TO BACKFILL ALL THIS MONEY
10:38:11 THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
10:38:13 AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
10:38:15 I THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITTEE'S HARD WORK.
10:38:17 MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:38:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:38:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
10:38:24 THANKS AGAIN TO YOU AND THE COMMITTEE FOR ALL THE TIME
10:38:25 YOU GUYS PUT INTO THIS.
10:38:29 I AM NOT GOING TO GO LINE ITEM -- AND I AM CURIOUS TO
10:38:32 HEAR WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION'S RESPONSE IS.
10:38:36 BUT I DID WANT TO THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THE -- THE
10:38:41 $5.5 MILLION OF ARPA MONEY, OF FEDERAL MONEY.
10:38:43 AND IT APPEARS TO ME THAT YOU AND YOUR COMMITTEE ARE
10:38:48 SUPPORTIVE OF REDIRECTING THAT TO THE HOUSING PROGRAM.
10:38:53 I JUST TOOK THE LIBERTY OF THAT $30,000 PROGRAM THAT
10:38:57 YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE COULD HELP FAMILIES GET
10:39:01 IN WITH A $30,000 LOAN.
10:39:05 IF YOU DIVIDE THE $5.5 MILLION BY THE $30,000, YOU END
10:39:08 UP TALKING ABOUT 183 FAMILIES.
10:39:13 183 FAMILIES THAT COULD FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME GET OUT
10:39:17 OF THAT RENTAL CYCLE AND ACTUALLY OWN A HOME WITH THAT
10:39:21 $5 MILLION.
10:39:24 SO ANYWAY, WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS
10:39:27 ISSUE AND ALL THE ISSUES YOU GUYS HAVE BROUGHT UP AS
10:39:31 THE WEEKS PROGRESS, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND THE
10:39:33 COMMITTEE SUPPORTING -- SUPPORTING THAT.
10:39:34 THANK YOU.
10:39:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:39:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THANKS AGAIN TO THE
10:39:43 OTHER MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL AND TO YOU MR. JOHNSON AND
10:39:44 THE COMMITTEE.
10:39:46 I WANT TO HEAR THE RESPONSE FROM THE CITY DEPARTMENT
10:39:48 BEFORE I MAKE MY COMMENTS.
10:39:51 >> IF I MAY BEFORE YOU SPEAK, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:39:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GO AHEAD, MR. JOHNSON.
10:39:57 >> YOU KNOW AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND AS DEPARTMENTAL
10:40:02 REPRESENTATIVES, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE ONCE SAID TO ME THAT
10:40:06 WE HAVE TO BE GOOD CUSTODIANS OF OUR CORPORATE DOLLARS.
10:40:10 AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND AS APPOINTED ADMINISTRATORS
10:40:15 AND DIRECTORS, THAT IS THE EXPECTATION FROM THE PEOPLE
10:40:22 TO THOSE THAT ARE THE CUSTODIANS OF THEIR TAX DOLLARS
10:40:23 AND THEIR REVENUES.
10:40:29 JUST LIKE A FORTUNE -- A FORTUNE 500 COOPERATION, --
10:40:32 CORPORATION, THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THEIR SHARE
10:40:33 SHOULDERS.
10:40:36 THEY HAVE TO HAVE SHAREHOLDER VALUES AS GOVERNMENT, THE
10:40:42 SHAREHOLDER VALUES MUST BE TO BE GOOD CUSTODIANS AND
10:40:47 GOOD ECONOMIC BUYERS WITH THE PEOPLE'S MONEY.
10:40:51 AS SOMEONE WHO IS A TAXPAYER, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN
10:40:54 APPOINTED TO THIS COMMITTEE TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY,
10:40:59 IT IS JOB, AS COMMITTEE MEMBERS, TO TRY TO BE GOOD
10:41:03 CUSTODIANS AS IT PERTAINS TO THE PEOPLE'S MONEY.
10:41:06 SO I WILL YIELD IT BACK TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:41:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. JOHNSON.
10:41:10 THANK YOU AND THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR HARD WORK.
10:41:15 IT TAKES PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THIS TYPE OF THING.
10:41:17 ESPECIALLY DEALING WITH FINANCES.
10:41:21 EVERYBODY IS NOT ADEPT TO DEAL WITH THAT PORTION, BUT
10:41:25 PEOPLE ARE ADEPT TO SERVE AND THANK THOSE IN THE
10:41:28 COMMITTEE WHO WERE BE ABLE TO SERVE AND BRING THIS
10:41:31 FORTH TO US. $1 MILLION IS A LOT FOR COUNCIL.
10:41:34 I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT AT THIS TIME.
10:41:36 BUT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTY ARE INTERESTED TO
10:41:40 KNOW SINCE THE COMMITTEE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE "OTHER"
10:41:43 COLUMN IS AND AN INTERESTING FACTOR AND BRING MR.
10:41:46 ROGERO TO TELL US WHAT THE OTHER MEANS AND THE
10:41:49 SUGGESTIONS WITH THE COMMITTEE IN REFERENCE TO THE
10:41:51 "OTHER" COLUMN.
10:41:58 DO WE HAVE MR. ROGERO ON THE LINE?
10:42:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HE WAS STANDING BY.
10:42:04 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:42:06 GOOD MORNING, MR. JOHNSON.
10:42:09 >> GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:42:13 >> DID OFF QUESTION, MR. GUDES.
10:42:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. JOHNSON TALKED ABOUT THIS "OTHER"
10:42:21 COLUMN AND WE WANT TO CLEAR UP WHAT THAT IS AND HOW IT
10:42:23 IS OPERATED.
10:42:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OVERALL RESPONSE TO THE HARD WORK
10:42:27 OF THIS COMMITTEE, DENNIS.
10:42:29 >>DENNIS ROGERO: I CAN DO BOTH.
10:42:31 FIRST OF ALL, I ECHO THE THANKS.
10:42:34 A PRESSURE WORKING WITH MR. JOHNSON AND HIS COMMITTEE
10:42:36 FOR THE LAST QUARTER OF A YEAR.
10:42:38 WE APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS IN THE DISCUSSION.
10:42:42 SECONDLY, OF COURSE, I WILL SIMPLY ECHO HOUSING --
10:42:46 AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A VERY HIGH PRIORITY FOR THE
10:42:50 ADMINISTRATION WITH OVER $30 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR
10:42:50 '22.
10:42:54 AND VEHICLES, OVER $30 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR '22.
10:42:57 IN TERMS OF THE PRESENTATION AND RECOMMENDATION, OF
10:43:00 COURSE, THESE ARE VERY HIGH-LEVEL SUMMARIES.
10:43:03 AS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE, DETAILED INFORMATION
10:43:07 EXISTS FOR ALL OF THE CATEGORIES IN THE BUDGET BOTH
10:43:10 ONLINE IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT AND, OF COURSE, WE ARE
10:43:12 ALWAYS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
10:43:16 THE PARTICULAR SUBJECT IN QUESTION "OTHER SERVICES AND
10:43:20 CHARGES," I AM -- I AM OF THE UNDERSTANDING AS IS MY
10:43:25 BUDGET OFFICER, AND WE HAVE CONFIRMED IT VERBALLY THAT
10:43:27 EVERY QUESTION THE COMMITTEE HAS ASKED OVER THE LAST
10:43:30 QUARTER OF A YEAR HAS BEEN ANSWERED.
10:43:35 IF WE ARE MISTAKEN, ASK EVERYBODY TO REACH OUT AND MR.
10:43:39 JOHNSON AND HIS COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO REACH ME AND MY
10:43:40 BUDGET OFFICE.
10:43:43 OTHER CHARGES INCLUDE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
10:43:46 IN INSURANCE PREMIUMS, ELECTRICITY BILLS, COSTAL
10:43:49 OCCASION PLAN, COMPUTER REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.
10:43:52 I AM LOOKING DOWN THE LIST NOW, WHICH I BELIEVE WE
10:43:54 PROVIDED TO THE COMMITTEE.
10:43:57 SO ALTHOUGH IT IS CATEGORIZED FROM AN ACCOUNTING
10:44:01 PERSPECTIVE "OTHER SERVICES AND CHARGES," AGAIN, WE GET
10:44:06 INTO A REAL GREAT DEAL OF DETAIL.
10:44:10 SCHOOLS OF THOUGHTS THAT WILL LOOK AT UTILITY BILLS AS
10:44:16 BEING UNTOUCHABLE, ELECTRICITY BILLS BEING UNTOUCHABLE.
10:44:20 INSURANCE PREMIUMS UNTOUCHABLE.
10:44:23 COST SAVINGS BY REDUCING YOUR ELECTRIC BILL.
10:44:26 COST SAVINGS BY NEGOTIATING YOUR INSURANCE PREMIUMS.
10:44:30 WE WILL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE A COMPLETE LISTING OF ALL
10:44:34 CATEGORIES UNDER "OTHER SERVICES AND CHARGES."
10:44:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
10:44:39 WELL, I THANK YOU.
10:44:42 MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
10:44:43 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:44:44 JUST VERY BRIEFLY.
10:44:48 I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE $6 MILLION OR SO THAT WAS THEN
10:44:52 CITED FOR POLICE, FIRE AND PARKS AND REC.
10:44:56 SO WHAT EXACTLY -- COULD YOU -- WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT
10:44:59 MONEY, UTILITIES, DIFFERENT FUNDS, IF YOU COULD, SIR,
10:45:02 JUST TO BE CLEAR.
10:45:03 >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE DON'T KNOW.
10:45:05 WE ARE STILL REVIEWING THE RECOMMENDATION.
10:45:07 WE RECEIVED IT YESTERDAY EVENING.
10:45:10 AGAIN A LOT OF HIGH-LEVEL FIGURES AND WE WILL HAVE TO
10:45:12 DRILL DOWN OURSELVES AND I IMAGINE IT WILL CALL FOR
10:45:16 ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION WITH MR. JOHNSON AND OTHER CITY
10:45:17 MEMBERS.
10:45:18 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:45:19 I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:45:22 >> IF I MAY, THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING THAT I DID LEAVE
10:45:24 OUT -- I LEFT OUT BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO BE BRIEF.
10:45:32 BUT WE ALSO DISCUSSED HAVING AN OVERALL REVIEW OF ALL
10:45:37 CITYWIDE CONTRACTS THAT HAVE GONE OUT FOR RFP.
10:45:45 THERE ARE A LOT AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE ON
10:45:49 SPENDING AND WE THINK -- WE FILLED THE COMMITTEE AGAIN
10:45:52 UNANIMOUSLY AND ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO HAVE
10:45:55 A CITYWIDE REVIEW OF ALL CONTRACT SERVICES.
10:45:59 WE DON'T FEEL THAT THEY ARE COMPETITIVE.
10:46:04 I KNOW THIS -- THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, IS PRESSED FOR
10:46:09 TIME, BUT AT SOME POINT, WE NEED TO HAVE A REALISTIC
10:46:14 CONVERSATION AS PERTAINS TO HOW TO BETTER SPEND THE
10:46:17 PEOPLE'S MONEY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW,
10:46:22 GETTING TRUE COMPETITIVE RATES FOR SERVICES THAT WE ARE
10:46:28 OUTSOURCING.
10:46:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
10:46:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT CONFUSED BUT DISTURBED
10:46:38 WITH MYSELF IN REVIEWING THE PROCESS WITH THE RFQ AND
10:46:40 RFP TO HAVE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE QUALIFIED, THAT
10:46:44 HAVE HAD SOME TYPE -- WHEN THE CITY PUTS OUT AN
10:46:49 ADVERTISING FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE TO QUALIFY
10:46:51 WITH CERTAIN AREAS OF EXPERTISE TO DEAL WITH THE CITY
10:46:55 AND AFTER THEY FILL THAT FULFILLMENT, THERE IS A PERIOD
10:47:03 THAT YOU HAVE TO TURN IN YOUR PRO FORMA, YOUR BID BID.
10:47:06 ARE WE SAYING THAT THE BIDS ARE RIGGED?
10:47:07 ARE WE SAYING FAVORITISM.
10:47:10 I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PHILOSOPHY WHAT I AM HEARING
10:47:12 FROM ONE SIDE AND THE OTHER SIDE.
10:47:14 I WANT IT CLEAR UP THAT WE ADVERTISE.
10:47:16 THERE IS NOTHING WRONG THERE.
10:47:18 THE PEOPLE WHO -- OR THE CORPORATIONS OR THE
10:47:21 INDIVIDUALS WHO BID, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG THERE THAT
10:47:22 I KNOW OF.
10:47:24 AND THERE IS A BID SET.
10:47:28 AND YOU GO TO THE LOWEST BIDDER FIRST THAT BEATS ALL
10:47:31 THE RESPONSIBLE AVENUES THAT THE CITY HAS PUT AND.
10:47:34 ARE WE SAYING THERE IS BID RIGGING?
10:47:37 >> THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM SAYING.
10:47:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT TAKING HIS SIDE OR YOUR
10:47:40 SIDE.
10:47:41 WHAT ARE THEY SAYING.
10:47:43 >> WE ARE NOT SAYING RIGGING.
10:47:45 YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE IS A LOT OF UP AND COMING
10:47:49 COMPANIES THAT HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO PERFORM THE WORK
10:47:52 JUST AS A LARGE CORPORATION DOES.
10:47:57 AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IF -- IF I AM AWARDED A
10:48:04 CONTRACT AND I AM PROVIDING THAT SERVICE, IN THE RFB,
10:48:09 RFQ, THE RENEWABLE OPTION WHERE THE CONTRACT NEVER GOES
10:48:13 OUT FOR BID AND WE NEVER KNOW IF WE CAN GET A
10:48:14 COMPETITIVE RATE, RIGHT.
10:48:18 SO IT JUST CONTINUES ON AND ON WITH THAT SAME COMPANY.
10:48:20 SO WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A REVIEW.
10:48:24 WE WANT TO REVIEW THE CURRENT CONTRACTS, WHY?
10:48:27 BECAUSE THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO
10:48:29 SAVE MONEY ON CONTRACT SERVICES.
10:48:31 FOR FY '20.
10:48:32 WE HAVE BEEN IN A PANDEMIC.
10:48:36 BEING IN THAT PANDEMIC, HOW MUCH MONEY DID WE SAVE?
10:48:39 WE HAD INDIVIDUALS WORKING FROM HOME.
10:48:44 I MEAN, SO -- REALISTICALLY, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AS A
10:48:50 BODY OF GOVERNMENT HOW YOU DO WE BETTER SERVE THE
10:48:53 PEOPLE FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT.
10:48:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT DISPUTING THAT AT ALL,
10:48:58 SIR.
10:49:00 I RECALL ONE INCIDENT.
10:49:07 AND JUNE '14, BID BROUGHT IN OF ALL THINGS CUTTING THE
10:49:10 GRASS IN THE CITY AND MOW, WHATEVER IT WAS.
10:49:14 THE LOW BID WAS $2 MILLION SOMETHING -- IT WAS WITH A
10:49:15 TWO.
10:49:17 I AM GOING WITH MEMORY GOING WAY BACK.
10:49:22 AND THE SUBSEQUENT TWO OTHER BIDS SECOND AND THIRD WERE
10:49:25 A $35,000 DIFFERENT.
10:49:29 THE HIGH BID THE CURRENT INDIVIDUAL WAS A MILLION AND A
10:49:31 HALF DIFFERENT FROM THE LOW BID.
10:49:32 GUESS WHAT HAPPENED.
10:49:35 THEY FOUND OUT THAT THE LOW BID AFTER COLLECTING FOR
10:49:39 JUNE, JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER DIDN'T HAVE THE PROPER
10:49:42 EQUIPMENT OR THE INDIVIDUALS TO DO THE SERVICE THAT WAS
10:49:46 NEEDED BECAUSE THEY DO A ROTATING FOUR OR FIVE AREAS OF
10:49:48 THE CITY AND YOU HAVE TO DO THEM WITHIN A NUMBER OF
10:49:53 WEEKS IN EACH AREA AND DON'T HOLD ME TO THE DATES.
10:49:54 I AM GOING BY MEMORY.
10:49:55 THIS IS JUST ONE.
10:49:58 THE BID WENT OUT AND THE LOW BIDDER GOT IT.
10:50:00 THEY FOUND OUT THAT THE GENTLEMAN AND THE GENTLEMAN'S
10:50:06 SECOND AND THIRD WERE USING THE SAME INDIVIDUALS LISTED
10:50:08 IN BOTH CORPORATIONS WITH THE SAME EQUIPMENT, AS I
10:50:10 RECALL.
10:50:16 WAS A BOGUS DEAL AND LET THEM GO AND GAVE IT BACK TO
10:50:19 THE HIGH BIDDER AND COST AN ADDITIONAL $100 TO
10:50:20 $200,000.
10:50:23 I AM NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T FIND THOSE THAT ARE DONE THAT
10:50:26 WAY AND YOU CAN FIND SOME THAT DID DO IT THAT WAY WHEN
10:50:29 THE CITY TOOK SOMETHING THAT THEY MORE OR LIKELY KNEW
10:50:33 OR HAD A SUSPICION THAT IT COULD BE DONE.
10:50:35 I TRUST EVERYTHING THINK THAT SEE, BUT I TRY TO VERIFY
10:50:36 EVERYTHING THAT I TRUST.
10:50:38 THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FROM BOTH SIDES.
10:50:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
10:50:42 WE APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU.
10:50:47 I AM SURE SOME TIME OR ANOTHER, YOU TWO GENTLEMEN AND
10:50:50 THE COMMUNITY WILL MEET TO GO OVER MR. JOHNSON AND THE
10:50:51 COMMITTEE.
10:50:54 AND CLEAR UP ANY DISCREPANCY BEFORE THE BUDGET HEARINGS
10:50:56 SO PEOPLE WON'T CALL AND ASK QUESTIONS.
10:51:00 PEOPLE DO LOOK AT CITY COUNCIL AND WONDER MAKE SURE WE
10:51:03 CLEAR UP SOME OF THE MISUNDERSTANDING THAT MIGHT BE
10:51:05 THERE SO PEOPLE HAVE THE FULL FACTS AND THIS COUNCIL
10:51:08 CAN MAKE GOOD INFORMED DECISIONS.
10:51:10 I THANK YOU BOTH FOR A YOUR TIME.
10:51:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:51:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:51:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A REMINDER TO THE COUNCIL AND THE
10:51:21 PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSIONS OF THE BUDGET.
10:51:24 TWO PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THE BUDGET.
10:51:29 MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 13 AT 5:01 P.M. AND SECOND IS
10:51:37 TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 28 AT 5:01 P.M. AND REMINDER TO CITY
10:51:40 COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT THERE IS NO MEETING ON THE
10:51:48 16TH OF SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS A THURSDAY, BECAUSE OF YOM
10:51:49 KIPPUR.
10:51:53 THOSE COME COUNCIL AND SEE A MEETING ON THE 16TH OF
10:51:55 SEPTEMBER, THAT MEETING HAS BEEN MOVED TO SEPTEMBER 30.
10:51:58 THANK YOU.
10:52:01 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:52:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT NOW.
10:52:17 HOW MANY DO WE HAVE?
10:52:26 YES, SIR, STATE YOUR NAME.
10:52:27 >> HELLO.
10:52:37 I AM SOVEREIGN KING JOHNNY BERNARD ALSO KNOWN AS HALL.
10:52:40 1-308.
10:52:45 I'M HERE TO MAKE AWARE OF SOME THINGS.
10:52:46 STATE.
10:52:51 STATE, YOU ARE UNDER INQUIRY AND QUESTIONING FOR GLOBAL
10:52:57 HUMAN TRAFFICKING, THE TRAFFICKING OF YOUR PEOPLE, AS I
10:53:00 AM SAYING WITH THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING AS YOUR PEOPLE
10:53:02 HAVE NOT BEEN PAID AS EVER.
10:53:09 AS YOU HAVE THEM OPERATE UNDER FRAUDULENT MEANS
10:53:12 PRETENDING TO PAY THEM, PLACING THEM IN DEBT THAT
10:53:15 SHOULD NO NEVER BEEN FROM THE BEGINNING FROM THE
10:53:16 GET-GO.
10:53:18 DEBT CANNOT PAY OFF DEBT.
10:53:20 DEBT CANNOT EVEN BUY OFF DEBT.
10:53:25 STATE, YOU ARE UNDER INQUIRY AND NOT ALLOWED TO GO
10:53:25 ANYWHERE.
10:53:28 STATE, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO OPERATE OR MOVE WITHOUT
10:53:29 PERMISSION.
10:53:34 STATE, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO TRAFFIC YOUR PEOPLE.
10:53:38 YOU WILL BE PENALIZED.
10:53:41 STATE, DO NOT GO ANYWHERE.
10:53:45 STATE, WE COMPREHEND THAT YOU FIGURE THAT YOU CAN
10:53:48 CONTINUE TO DO THIS BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS HAVE DONE THIS.
10:53:51 AND YOU FIGURED THAT THE PEOPLE ARE STILL DUMB, DEAF
10:53:52 AND BLIND.
10:53:58 STATE, IT IS NOT FUNNY TO GIVE YOUR PEOPLE IOU NOTICE
10:54:02 AND TELL THEM IT IS OKAY TO BE PAID.
10:54:08 STATE, IT IS NOT FUNNY TO HUMAN TRAFFIC YOUR PEOPLE.
10:54:11 ACTUALLY MOODY, YOU NEED TO FIND THOSE STATE OFFICIALS
10:54:15 THAT ARE CONTINUING TO TRAFFIC AMERICANS.
10:54:20 GOVERNOR DESANTIS, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING WITH
10:54:25 BRINGING AMERICANS OUT OF MODERN-DAY SLAVERY, NOT
10:54:31 CONTINUING TO HELP PUSH THE MODERN-DAY SLAVERY THROUGH.
10:54:38 HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS A SERIOUS SITUATION ON THIS GLOBE.
10:54:41 AS WE SEE WHAT IS GOING ON HERE WITHIN OUR SOVEREIGN
10:54:47 KINGDOM AS WE ARE HERE WITHIN THE HEADQUARTERING OF THE
10:54:52 GLOBE, AND TAMPA AND TAMPA BAY.
10:54:57 ALSO, BIDEN AND HARRIS, YOU HAVE BEEN SUMMONED TO
10:55:04 APPEAR HERE IN THE HEADQUARTERS FOR IT IS YOU, TWO,
10:55:09 THAT ARE ALSO CONTINUING TO HUMAN TRAFFIC AMERICANS.
10:55:11 SO GET HERE TO TAMPA.
10:55:13 AND THAT IS NOT A REQUEST.
10:55:15 THAT IS A DEMAND.
10:55:16 NONNEGOTIABLE.
10:55:24 ALSO, SOVEREIGN NATIONAL UNITED STATES PRESIDENT DONALD
10:55:32 J. TRUMP.
10:55:36 PRIME MINISTER DON TRUMP OF SOVEREIGN AMERICAN KINGDOM.
10:55:41 WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO GIVE US A SPECIAL GUEST
10:55:45 APPEARANCE IN TAMPANIA, TAMPA BAY.
10:56:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
10:56:21 >> MENTESNOT.
10:56:24 SAY UHURU.
10:56:28 MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI AND AFRICAN PEOPLE NEED TO
10:56:29 THINK OF FREEDOM.
10:56:33 THURSDAY AFTER THURSDAY, DECADE AFTER DECADE TO PUT
10:56:35 FORTH WHAT I THINK OUR EXPRESSION OF FREEDOM AND WHAT
10:56:37 IT MEANS TO BE FREE.
10:56:42 AND ALSO PUT FORTH THE FACT THAT -- TO SAY LIKE I HAVE
10:56:45 ALWAYS SAID, WE NEED 26% OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT HAPPEN
10:56:46 IN THIS CITY.
10:56:51 OUR BUSINESS PEOPLE NEED 26% OF THIS CITY BUDGET.
10:56:54 WE ARE 26% OF THIS POPULATION.
10:56:59 THE IRONY EVERY TIME YOU COME TO CITY COUNCIL AND ASK
10:57:01 THEM TO DO ANYTHING.
10:57:04 APPARENTLY SOMETHING IS DOING DONE, BUT NOTHING IS
10:57:05 BEING DONE.
10:57:08 YOU CAN LOOK IN OUR COMMUNITY AND NOTHING IS BEING
10:57:08 DONE.
10:57:11 ADD-ON FOR MONEY FOR BUCCANEERS AND FIRE FIGHTERS AND
10:57:14 POLICE OFFICERS AND WHATSOEVER.
10:57:16 THEN THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT WHEN IT IS
10:57:20 MONEY FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF AFRICAN PEOPLE, IT IS
10:57:21 NEVER ANY MONEY FOR THAT.
10:57:23 ALWAYS TELL US MONEY FOR PARKS.
10:57:26 THERE IS MONEY FOR ROUNDS ABOUT.
10:57:29 MONEY THAT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING BUT UPLIFT THE AFRICAN
10:57:32 PEOPLE AND THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY.
10:57:34 WE ARE SAYING WE NEED REPRESENTATIVES TO UPLIFT OUR
10:57:37 COMMUNITY AND SOMETIMES THAT IS BEING PUT AS IF IT IS
10:57:38 BEING PUT ON DISTRICT FIVE.
10:57:41 IT IS NOT DISTRICT FIVE, BUT EACH AND EVERY PERSON
10:57:42 SITTING THERE ON CITY COUNCIL.
10:57:45 THAT IS EXACTLY HOW RACISM WORKS.
10:57:48 BOUNCE IT BACK FOR THE OTHER PERSON.
10:57:48 NOT ME.
10:57:52 EVERY TIME YOU COME TO CITY COUNCIL AND BRING FORTH A
10:57:53 ISSUE OR SITUATION.
10:57:55 THEY SAY NOT MY AREA.
10:57:56 BICYCLE STOPS.
10:57:58 WE TALKED TO THE STATE ATTORNEY ON THAT.
10:58:01 OTHER ISSUE, THAT IS NOT OUR AREA.
10:58:03 THE STIMULUS CHECKS.
10:58:05 IT IS PEOPLE LIVING INSIDE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:58:10 CHILD SUPPORT AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS RUNNING AN ILLEGAL
10:58:12 GAME OF MOSTLY AFRICAN MEN.
10:58:16 AND YOU TALK TO THE REPRESENTATIVES, THERE IS NOTHING
10:58:20 WE CAN DO ABOUT IT, OUTSIDE OUR JURISDICTION.
10:58:23 PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA SAY THAT CAN'T IN THE
10:58:24 CITY OF TAMPA.
10:58:28 GO TO THE MAFIA BOSS AND GANG LEADER AND GET MORE
10:58:30 RESPECT AND ACCOMMODATION AND MORE RESULTS THAN YOU CAN
10:58:34 COME TOGETHER CITY OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY,
10:58:36 THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE, AFFIRMATIVELY.
10:58:39 WE NEED 26% OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THIS
10:58:40 CITY.
10:58:42 WE AFRICAN PEOPLE NEED 26%.
10:58:44 WE NEED REPARATIONS.
10:58:47 SINCE THE CITY THAT BASS FORMED SINCE 1859 AND WE
10:58:51 RECEIVED NO JUSTIFICATION IN EVEN BEING HERE.
10:58:53 ALL THIS HAS TO CHANGE.
10:58:57 IT'S SO IMPERATIVE THAT WE SEE CHANGES WITHIN THIS CITY
10:59:00 THAT WE CAN SEE GROWTH AND HARMONY AND SOME HAPPINESS
10:59:09 AMONGST AFRICAN PEOPLE THAT JUST TIME FOR IT TO HAPPEN
10:59:13 AND TIME FOR OUR AFRICAN PEOPLE CAN SEE THE LIGHT AND
10:59:16 OUR YOUTH CAN SEE IT IS WORTH LIVING.
10:59:19 SUE SIDE HIGH AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE.
10:59:19 WHY IS THAT?
10:59:23 HOPELESSNESS, DRUG ADDICTION, ALL THESE THINGS.
10:59:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
10:59:35 THANK YOU.
10:59:40 >> NO MORE SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME.
10:59:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S IT FOR SPEAKERS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:59:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: REGISTERED SPEAKERS, MADAM CLERK?
10:59:55 >>CLERK: THE FIRST REGISTERED SPEAKER WAS FERNANDO
10:59:56 PEREZ III.
10:59:58 HE DID NOT PHONE IN TO SPEAK.
11:00:02 THE NEXT IS PAMELA JO HATLEY.
11:00:07 PAMELA, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:00:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THAT IS IN REFERENCE TO THE
11:00:10 10:30 PUBLIC HEARING.
11:00:13 SO PERHAPS IT WOULD BE BEST TO TAKE THAT UP RIGHT NOW
11:00:16 AND HANDLE THAT.
11:00:19 IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
11:00:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE TO OPEN.
11:00:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:00:24 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:00:25 ANY OPPOSED.
11:00:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO ATTORNEYS WHO
11:00:30 ARE RELATED TO THIS.
11:00:36 MISS -- MISS HATLEY AND MISS IZERMAN.
11:00:40 BOTH REGISTERED AND PUT ON LINE?
11:00:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CLERK.
11:00:50 >> JESSICA IZERMAN HAS REGISTERED AND SHE IS ON THE
11:00:51 LIST.
11:00:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THEY CAN BE BROUGHT UP.
11:01:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, MA'AM.
11:01:02 YOUR AUDIO.
11:01:06 >> I AM JESSICA IZERMAN.
11:01:11 I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH MY CAMERA.
11:01:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU.
11:01:14 YOU ARE FINE.
11:01:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL,
11:01:19 THIS HAS BEEN A SCHEDULING ISSUE.
11:01:29 AND I BELIEVE WORKING FOR ATTORNEYS BOTH INVOLVED WHO
11:01:30 ARE BOTH PRESENT.
11:01:35 THE AGREEMENT IS TO CONTINUE THIS FOR OCTOBER 21, 1:30
11:01:38 IN THE AFTERNOON AFTER THE COUNCIL'S LUNCH BREAK.
11:01:41 A HOPEFULLY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE STAFF
11:01:51 REPORTS WHICH ARE SHORT AT THIS POINT TO GET TO THIS
11:01:52 HEARING BEFORE 1:30.
11:01:56 IF THAT THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, TO HAVE THE ATTORNEYS
11:02:01 CONFIRM THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO AND THEIR CLIENTS AND
11:02:03 ANYBODY WHO IS NECESSARY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT REVIEW
11:02:09 HEARING TO PARTICIPATE OCTOBER 21, 1:30 P.M.
11:02:11 >> THIS IS PAMELA JO HATLEY, AND I REPRESENT THE
11:02:14 PETITIONERS IN THIS MATTER, AND WE WILL BE READY ON
11:02:18 OCTOBER 21 AT 1:30 TO PRESENT THE CASE.
11:02:20 THANK YOU.
11:02:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS IZERMAN.
11:02:26 >> THIS IS JESSICA IZERMAN REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT
11:02:30 AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROCEED OCTOBER 21 AT 1:30.
11:02:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF COUNCIL IS INCLINED A MOTION.
11:02:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE AB 21-20 C BE CONTINUED UNTIL
11:02:42 OCTOBER 21 AT 1:30.
11:02:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO AND MR. DINGFELDER
11:02:45 SECONDED.
11:02:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO THAT BY ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:02:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:02:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:02:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:02:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:02:55 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:02:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:02:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:03:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:03:05 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:03:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE LAST CHECK JUST TO CONFIRM THAT
11:03:10 THIS CONTINUANCE IS THE ONLY NOTICE THAT WILL BE
11:03:12 RECEIVED REGARDING THIS MATTER.
11:03:15 SO PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THIS MATTER SHOULD MAKE
11:03:19 NOTE OF THAT DATE OF CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 21 AT 1:30
11:03:20 IN THE AFTERNOON.
11:03:22 NO ADDITIONAL NOTICE WILL BE SENT.
11:03:26 AND THAT MAKES IT COMPLIANT WITH THE -- WITH THE LAW
11:03:27 REQUIRING NOTICE.
11:03:28 THANK YOU.
11:03:34 ANYTHING FURTHER, COUNCILORS?
11:03:35 >> NO, SIR, THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:03:36 >> THANK YOU.
11:03:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE --
11:03:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, NO, IT'S CONTINUED.
11:03:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CONTINUED.
11:03:43 YOU ARE RIGHT.
11:03:46 BACK TO PUBLIC COMMENT, MR. SHELBY.
11:03:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
11:03:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO MORE SPEAKERS.
11:03:50 OKAY, GREAT.
11:03:52 WE WILL GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
11:03:55 MR. CITRO, WILL YOU MOVE ITEMS 5-8, SIR.
11:03:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, I MOVE ITEMS 5-8.
11:04:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:04:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CITRO MOVED AND MIRANDA SECONDED.
11:04:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:04:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:04:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:04:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:04:17 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:04:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:04:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:04:22 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:04:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, MOVE ITEMS 17 EXCLUDING
11:04:30 18 TO 19.
11:04:33 -- I AM SORRY.
11:04:38 GO AHEAD, MR. MIRANDA.
11:04:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SKIPPED A PAGE.
11:04:44 AS PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE CHAIR MOVE ITEM 9-16.
11:04:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:04:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER MOVED, SECOND BY
11:04:49 MIRANDA.
11:04:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:04:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:04:53 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:05:02 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:05:04 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:05:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 17 AND 19, HOLDING 18 FOR
11:05:10 DISCUSSION.
11:05:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
11:05:15 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:05:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:05:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:05:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:05:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. ITEMS THROUGH 27.
11:05:32 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR, I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF OF
11:05:34 NUMBER 20 SO I WILL MAKE THE MOTION AND SECOND FOR THE
11:05:35 REST OF THEM.
11:05:41 BUT COULD I PLEASE MAKE A MOTION TO FILE THE.
11:05:44 THE PROPER PAPERWORK WITH THE CLERK.
11:05:48 THE COMPANY -- MY COMPANY DOES BUSINESS WITH A COMPANY
11:05:49 RELATED TO THIS ITEM.
11:05:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION AND SECOND.
11:05:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:05:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY 27.
11:06:02 IT HAS TO BE READ, THE BOTTOM PART OF IT.
11:06:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, TO KEEP THINGS
11:06:05 FLOWING.
11:06:10 I MOVE ITEM 20 SO MR. CARLSON HAS TO RECUSE.
11:06:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER HAS MOVED.
11:06:14 MR. VIERA HAS SECONDED.
11:06:15 ROLL CALL.
11:06:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:06:18 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:06:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:06:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:06:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:06:26 >>CLERK: CARLSON?
11:06:28 >>BILL CARLSON: I AM ABSTAINING.
11:06:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:06:34 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING FROM
11:06:34 VOTE.
11:06:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN DO YOU WANT A MOTION FOR
11:06:39 MR. CARLSON TO RECEIVE AND FILE ADVENT CALENDAR YOU
11:06:40 WANT TO READ.
11:06:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOVE THE FORM WILL BE RECEIVED OR
11:06:47 FILED AND DO IT AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
11:06:51 >>BILL CARLSON: I LIKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:06:54 GUDES MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE, MR. DINGFELDER
11:06:55 SECONDED.
11:06:57 ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED.
11:07:00 MR. CARLSON, 21-27.
11:07:02 BUT 27 NEEDS TO BE READ.
11:07:05 >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE TO MOVE 21-26.
11:07:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:07:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON MOVED IT.
11:07:10 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
11:07:14 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:07:15 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:07:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:07:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:07:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:07:20 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:07:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:07:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:07:26 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:07:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WAS 26 CONTINUED?
11:07:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
11:07:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THROUGH 25.
11:07:36 GUDES MOVED TO THE 30 AT 1:30.
11:07:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT PASSING 26.
11:07:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONTINUED.
11:07:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CONFIRM THAT WITH THE CLERK.
11:07:48 MADAM CLERK, TO YOU HAVE NUMBER 26 AS BEING CONTINUED
11:07:50 PREVIOUSLY.
11:07:52 OF THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
11:07:56 >>CLERK: THIS MORNING COUNCILMAN CITRO SECONDED BY
11:08:00 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MADE THE MOTION TO CONTINUE FOR 30TH
11:08:02 UNDER CONSENT AGENDA.
11:08:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TO CLARIFY THE MOTION WAS THROUGH
11:08:05 25.
11:08:07 >>BILL CARLSON: 21-25.
11:08:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
11:08:12 >>BILL CARLSON: I LIKE TO MOVE NUMBER 27 FILE NUMBER
11:08:18 BF 21-70115.
11:08:23 PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD REGARDING PROPOSED BROWN
11:08:26 FIELD DESIGNATION FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF ONE PARCEL
11:08:32 APPROXIMATELY 43.81 ACRES IN SIZE LOCATED 4410 GEORGE
11:08:34 ROAD TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33634.
11:08:37 THIS PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD IN THE LOBBY OF THE
11:08:42 INDEPENDENCE PARK PARKS COMPLEX 4110 GEORGE ROAD,
11:08:48 TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33634 ON SEPTEMBER 13, 2021 AT 5:30
11:08:51 UNTIL NOT LATER THAN 6:30 P.M. AS A PRECAUTION DURING
11:08:54 THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC, MASKS WILL BE REQUIRED FOR ENTRY
11:08:57 TO THE HEARING AND THE SEATING WILL BE SET UP IN A
11:09:00 MANNER TO ENSURE SOCIAL DISTANCING --
11:09:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND --
11:09:06 >>BILL CARLSON: SOCIAL DISTANCING AND HAND SANITIZER
11:09:09 WILL BE GIVEN.
11:09:10 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:09:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:09:13 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:09:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:09:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:09:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:09:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:09:19 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:09:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, TRANSPORTATION, ITEMS
11:09:23 28-34.
11:09:26 >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE 38-34.
11:09:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:09:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
11:09:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:09:35 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:09:35 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:09:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:09:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:09:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:09:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:09:48 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:09:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOT THROUGH 35.
11:09:50 STAFF REPORTS.
11:10:04 ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE 36.
11:10:05 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:10:07 JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:10:09 WE HAVE TWO REPORTS FOR YOU.
11:10:11 FIRST ONE IS GOING TO COME FROM CHIEF TRIPP AS
11:10:14 REQUESTED ON THE COVID UPDATE.
11:10:17 CHIEF TRIPP?
11:10:19 >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:10:21 CHIEF TRIPP, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
11:10:24 I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE COVID STREAM.
11:10:29 CURRENTLY CITY OF TAMPA IS DOING TESTS AT AL BARNES AS
11:10:30 WELL AS AL LOPEZ.
11:10:35 A LITTLE LESS THAN 2,000 WITH AVERAGE OF 18.6 TO 20%
11:10:37 POSITIVITY RATE.
11:10:41 CURRENTLY THE STATE IS ALSO TESTING THROUGHOUT.
11:10:43 SLIGHT AVERAGE THERE.
11:10:46 ABOUT 1600 NEW CASES PER DAY.
11:10:49 THE HOSPITAL IS CONTINUING TO SHOW A SLIGHT DECREASE
11:10:50 OVER THE LAST WEEK.
11:10:54 AVERAGE OF 141 DAILY ADMISSIONS.
11:10:59 THEY ARE CONTINUING TO SHOW INCREASED LEVEL THROUGHOUT
11:11:01 THE PANDEMIC.
11:11:04 ONE -- TWO OF THE HOSPITALS BASICALLY HAVE REACHED
11:11:06 CRITICAL LEVELS BUT NOT IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
11:11:10 AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS ALSO COMPLETING SOME TESTING
11:11:14 THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
11:11:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS.
11:11:17 >>CHIEF TRIPP: I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL
11:11:20 QUESTIONS.
11:11:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:11:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CHIEF, DURING THE FIRST GO-AROUND
11:11:30 WE RECEIVED DAILY WRITTEN UPDATES FROM YOUR STAFF.
11:11:32 YOU KNOW LAST YEAR.
11:11:36 AND THEN I KNOW THE STATE MODIFIED THEIR REPORTING.
11:11:39 AND I HAVE A FEELING THAT TRICKLED DOWN TO -- TO OUR
11:11:43 INFORMATION, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO COUNCIL
11:11:48 AND TO THE COMMUNITY IF WE COULD GET -- YOU KNOW, START
11:11:52 GETTING WRITTEN REPORTS ABOUT WHATEVER NUMBER -- I AM
11:11:53 NOT ASKING YOU TO COME UP WITH NUMBERS THAT YOU ARE NOT
11:11:57 -- THAT YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE BUT WHATEVER NUMBERS YOU
11:12:00 HAVE IF YOU CAN PASS THOSE ON EVERY COUPLE OF DAYS,
11:12:01 THAT WILL BE HELPFUL.
11:12:05 >>CHIEF TRIPP: OKAY, SO BASICALLY YOU WANTED UPDATED
11:12:07 INFORMATION LIKE WHAT I JUST PRESENTED TO THE
11:12:09 COUNCILMEMBERS?
11:12:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
11:12:15 OBVIOUSLY WE WILL TRY OUR HELP TO DISSEMINATE THAT TO
11:12:17 THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, BUT ANY NUMBERS YOU HAVE IN
11:12:21 TERMS OF HOW MANY FOLKS ARE GETTING IT, UP OR DOWN,
11:12:22 HOSPITAL RATES, ETC.
11:12:24 MR. SHELBY, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD?
11:12:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST AS COUNCIL RECALLS A TIME YOU
11:12:31 WERE GETTING DAILY SITUATION REPORTS PROVIDED BY
11:12:33 EMERGENCY OPERATIONS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY
11:12:36 GENERATE THOSE ON A WEEKLY BASIS, BUT THAT IS THE KIND
11:12:39 OF INFORMATION THAT COUNCIL HAD PREVIOUSLY GOTTEN.
11:12:44 SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WANT?DINGFELDER YEAH, I DON'T KNOW
11:12:47 WHAT THE ABILITY IS OF THOSE REPORTS ANYMORE.
11:12:50 >>CHIEF TRIPP: BASICALLY THE REPORTS WE USED TO DO DUE
11:12:53 TO THE STATE -- I DON'T WANT TO USE SHUTTING DOWN --
11:12:55 BUT DECREASING THEIR OUTPUT.
11:12:57 WE ACTUALLY GET A REPORT ONCE A WEEK.
11:12:59 IF YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU A REPORT ONCE A WEEK I CAN
11:13:03 GIVE YOU A SIT REPORT ONCE A WEEK BASED ON THOSE
11:13:04 NUMBERS.
11:13:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GREAT TO GET IT IN WRITING AND
11:13:10 CLEARLY -- UP TO MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT CLEARLY DURING OUR
11:13:13 REGULAR MEETINGS AS THE EMERGENCY PROGRESSES, I THINK
11:13:17 IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU DO COME ON AND REPORT NOT ONLY
11:13:21 TO US BUT, OF COURSE, TO THE COMMUNITY IN THIS FORMAT.
11:13:21 THANK YOU.
11:13:23 >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES, SIR.
11:13:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
11:13:26 OKAY, THANK YOU, CHIEF.
11:13:33 >>CHIEF TRIPP: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
11:13:40 >> CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL, NEXT SHOULD BE OUR CFO DENNIS
11:13:43 ROGERO TALKING OF THE BOND AND THAT WILL BE THE LAST
11:13:46 PART OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
11:13:47 >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
11:13:50 HELLO, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
11:13:52 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT BUT I SENT
11:13:55 AN E-MAIL YESTERDAY EVENING REGARDING REQUEST FOR A
11:13:59 SPECIAL CALL ON THE 23 FOR CONDUIT DEBT ISSUANCE.
11:14:02 I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LATE NOTICE, BUT THIS OPPORTUNITY
11:14:04 CAME US TO RATHER LATE-BREAKING.
11:14:08 IF YOU HAVEN'T READ IT, TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT,
11:14:13 CELEDON CORPORATION, THE CORPORATION THAT WILL
11:14:16 CONSTRUCT A PAPER MANUFACTURING FIBER PLANT NEAR THE
11:14:16 PORT.
11:14:20 THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO A CONDUIT DEBT ISSUANCE NOT TO
11:14:22 EXCEED $280 MILLION.
11:14:26 YOU MAY RECALL WE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE FOR THE
11:14:30 UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND THE MOFFITT CANCER CENTER.
11:14:33 I REITERATE NO LEGAL NOR FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES
11:14:40 ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONDO DEBT ISSUANCE FOR THE CITY OF
11:14:40 TAMPA.
11:14:44 FOR PRIVATE -- FOR-PROFIT COMPANIES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE
11:14:47 OF TAX EXEMPT FINANCING.
11:14:50 IN ORDER TO DO THAT WE WILL NEED -- THE DEADLINE IS
11:14:53 10/1, OCTOBER 1ST.
11:14:56 TO DO THAT WE NEED A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING ON THE
11:14:59 23RD.
11:15:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.
11:15:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:15:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. ROGERO.
11:15:05 THANK YOU.
11:15:09 I READ THE MEMO YESTERDAY, AND I RECALL THAT COUNCIL A
11:15:14 CELEDON ISSUE LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS, WHEN THIS
11:15:19 STARTED, MAYBE IT WAS A TAX BREAK REQUEST.
11:15:20 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
11:15:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:15:24 I DON'T KNOW IF I ASKED THE QUESTION THEN.
11:15:28 I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON THEIR PRODUCT AND
11:15:30 THEIR MANUFACTURING.
11:15:36 THEY CLAIM THAT THIS IS A VERY GREEN -- YOU KNOW GREEN
11:15:39 BUSINESS THEY ARE DOING IN TERMS OF RECYCLING AND THAT
11:15:39 SORT OF THING.
11:15:42 I DON'T HAVE ANY REASON TO DOUBT IT.
11:15:46 BUT MR. REAMER BEEN PART OF THIS DISCUSSION SINCE THEY
11:15:50 ARE TOUTING ALL THESE GREEN ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS?
11:15:54 >>DENNIS ROGERO: I BELIEVE HE HAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH
11:15:57 THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, BUT I CAN CONFIRM
11:16:01 THOSE PRIOR TO THE 23RD -- I CAN CONFIRM THAT PRIOR TO
11:16:01 THE 23RD.
11:16:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:16:03 THANK YOU.
11:16:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A 501 OR 601.
11:16:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:16:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. SHELBY.
11:16:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. ROGERO, AS A REMINDER, COUNCIL
11:16:22 HAS A MORNING SESSION 9 A.M. AND EVENING SESSION AT
11:16:23 5:01.
11:16:26 IF YOU WANT TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
11:16:29 YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE OR DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS GOING
11:16:31 VERY LONG?
11:16:34 >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T ANTICIPATE IT GOING LONG BUT
11:16:36 I DEFER TO COUNCIL HOW MUCH INFORMATION THEY WOULD
11:16:37 LIKE.
11:16:42 WE WILL PROVIDE YOU A FULL PACKAGE AND BRIEFS PRIOR TO,
11:16:45 AND I IMAGINE THAT THE -- THE ORGANIZATION WOULD BE
11:16:50 VERY FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU HALL HAVE THAT
11:16:52 SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.
11:16:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I MAY RECOMMEND, COUNCIL, LOOKING
11:16:57 AT WORKSHOP.
11:16:59 COMMENDATIONS OF POLICE OFFICERS OF THE MONTH AND TWO
11:17:00 INDIVIDUALS.
11:17:03 IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING FIRST
11:17:06 AND GET IT OUT OF THE WAY BEFORE YOU BEGIN YOUR
11:17:11 WORKSHOP SCHEDULE IT AT 9 A.M. TO PRECEDE THE WORKSHOP
11:17:13 IF THAT IS THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
11:17:16 WILL THAT BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE ADMINISTRATION, MR.
11:17:17 ROGERO.
11:17:20 9 A.M. PRIOR TO THE WORKSHOP, A SPECIAL CALL?
11:17:22 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:17:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: EVERYBODY FINE WITH THAT?
11:17:27 I NEED A MOTION FOR THAT, MR. SHELBY.
11:17:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE.
11:17:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
11:17:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:17:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:17:35 ANY OPPOSED.
11:17:37 MOTION CARRIED.
11:17:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL NOTICE THAT ACCORDINGLY.
11:17:41 >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:17:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 37.
11:17:49 RESOLUTION.
11:17:56 MR. -- MR. VIERA?
11:17:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A REMINDER.
11:18:00 YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH THESE AND NO QUESTIONS AND STAFF
11:18:05 PRESENTATIONS WERE NOT NECESSARY AS FAR AS COUNCIL.
11:18:07 GUDES TAKE 37, MR. VIERA.
11:18:10 >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED THE RESOLUTION.
11:18:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:18:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA AND MR. MIRANDA SECONDED.
11:18:14 ROLL CALL.
11:18:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:18:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:18:18 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:18:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:18:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:18:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:18:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:18:28 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:18:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 38 WAS CLEARED UP BY A MEMO.
11:18:34 39 -- 39, YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE QUARTERLY REPORT,
11:18:40 CORRECT?
11:18:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM GOOD AND WE DON'T NEED TO HEAR
11:18:43 THAT ONE.
11:18:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 38 AND 39.
11:18:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER WITH A MOTION.
11:18:51 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:18:52 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:18:53 ANY OPPOSED.
11:18:54 THANK YOU.
11:18:58 ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 40.
11:19:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE MR. ROGERO.
11:19:05 >> I SEE MR. MASSEY PRESENT.
11:19:07 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU PROBABLY READ THE MEMO.
11:19:11 GENESIS THAT A YEAR OR SO AGO THE CITY CREATED A
11:19:14 PROGRAM CALLED ONE TAMPA, WHICH WAS CITY PROGRAM.
11:19:18 AND THEN IN THE LAST -- I DON'T REMEMBER, THE LAST TWO
11:19:22 OR THREE MONTHS, A NONPROPERTY WAS REGISTERED CALLED
11:19:22 ONE TAMPA.
11:19:30 AND SO THE QUESTION THAT WE ASKED WAS WHAT OTHER
11:19:34 NONPROFITS DOES THE CITY HAVE THAT LIKE THAT THAT ARE
11:19:38 QUOTE, UNQUOTE, THE CITY, AND I SHOULD HAVE REPHRASED
11:19:41 THE QUESTION BECAUSE YOU SAY CONTROL THAT HITS ALL KIND
11:19:47 OF IRS ABOUT TAX DEDUCTIONS.
11:19:51 THE REASON THEY DID THIS FOR PRIVATE SECTOR DONATIONS
11:19:52 AND HAVE A TAX DEDUCTION.
11:19:56 THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT OTHER NONPROFITS DOES THE CITY
11:19:59 QUOTE, UNQUOTE, HAVE CONTROL OVER.
11:20:02 I POINTED OUT -- SO THE QUESTION -- THE QUESTION BACK
11:20:06 FROM MR. ROGERO AND MR. MASSEY WAS CAN WE NARROW THE
11:20:08 SCOPE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE CITY HAS PEOPLE SITTING
11:20:10 ON LOTS OF BOARDS.
11:20:11 WE SIT ON BOARDS.
11:20:13 THE CITY DONATES MONEY TO LOTS OF BOARDS.
11:20:15 SO WHAT IS THE NARROW DEFINITION.
11:20:20 I LOOKED AT ONE TAMPA THIS MORNING.
11:20:24 AND IF I REMEMBER DIRECTLY, THE ADDRESS FOR ONE TAMPA
11:20:30 IS 306 EAST JACKSON STREET, 8TH FLOOR, ATTENTION MARLEY
11:20:30 WILKES.
11:20:34 AND THE REGISTERED AGENT IS MORRIS MASSEY.
11:20:36 AND OTHER FOLKS ON HERE AS WELL.
11:20:39 AND ONE OF THEM IN DENNIS ROGERO.
11:20:42 >> TO NARROW THE SCOPE, ALTHOUGH WE CAN'T STAY WHICH
11:20:45 NONPROFITS THE CITY QUOTE, UNQUOTE, CONTROLS.
11:20:48 THE QUESTION IS -- HERE IS HOW I WOULD SUGGEST
11:20:50 NARROWING IT.
11:20:53 THAT THE ADDRESS WOULD BE -- WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
11:20:57 MOTION TO NARROW THE SCOPE OF THIS REQUEST TO BE
11:21:01 LIMITED TO NONPROFITS THAT HAVE AN ADDRESS THAT IS A
11:21:05 CITY PROPERTY AND THAT THE REGISTERED AGENT IS THE CITY
11:21:06 EMPLOYEE.
11:21:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND.
11:21:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON MADE A MOTION.
11:21:11 MR. DINGFELDER SECONDED.
11:21:13 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:21:14 ANY OPPOSED.
11:21:16 MOTION CARRIED.
11:21:19 >>BILL CARLSON: I FORGET TO ASK MR. ROGERO, THAT A
11:21:21 FAIR REDUCTION OF IT.
11:21:23 >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DO, THANK YOU.
11:21:26 BUT I DEFER TO LEGAL TO MAKE SURE IT IS WITHIN THEIR
11:21:29 BUMPER RAILS BUT THANK YOU, YES, I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:21:30 MR. MASSEY.
11:21:33 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL, COUNCILMAN
11:21:33 CARLSON.
11:21:35 I THINK THAT PROVIDES ENOUGH DIRECTION OF WHAT WE ARE
11:21:39 LOOKING FOR AND CAN PROVIDE YOU A REPORT BACK ON THIS.
11:21:43 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY.
11:21:47 DENNIS DONALD TRUMP THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:21:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 41 CONTINUED TO SEPTEMBER 30.
11:21:52 AND ITEM NUMBER 42.
11:21:55 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO HEAR ABOUT 42,
11:21:56 THAT'S CORRECT?
11:21:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:22:01 I WOULD LIKE A QUICK DISCUSSION IF TIME PERMITS WITH
11:22:06 MR. BHIDE OR WHOEVER MIGHT BE AROUND TO TALK ABOUT ROAD
11:22:09 PAVING.
11:22:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF I COULD, AFTER COUNCILMAN
11:22:14 DINGFELDER.
11:22:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GO BACK TO TRANSPORTATION.
11:22:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL DEFER TO MR. MANISCALCO
11:22:21 SINCE IT WAS ORIGINALLY HIS MOTION.
11:22:24 I WILL BE GLAD TO BAT CLEANUP.
11:22:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
11:22:30 SO BEFORE WE GET MR. BHIDE ON THE LINE, I KNOW WE GET
11:22:36 A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE QUALITY OF OUR ROADS.
11:22:37 I GET THEM DAILY.
11:22:41 IF NOT SOMEONE POSTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AN E-MAIL,
11:22:43 PHONE CALL OR WHATNOT.
11:22:45 I KNOW THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT AND A COLLABORATION
11:22:48 BETWEEN -- OR A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:22:51 FDOT AS WELL AS THE COUNTY BECAUSE SOME ROADS -- MANY
11:22:55 OF OUR ROADS COME INTO -- WITHIN TAMPA CITY LIMITS, BUT
11:22:56 NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT.
11:22:59 THEY THINK THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA CONTROLS EVERYTHING
11:23:03 AND PAVES ALL THE ROADS.
11:23:05 THE COMPLAINTS I GET IS COLUMBUS DRIVE, ARMENIA,
11:23:08 HOWARD AND WHATNOT.
11:23:12 SO THIS -- THIS IS ON THE TOPIC, BUT HAS -- IT IS NOT
11:23:14 PART OF THIS -- THIS MEMO.
11:23:16 I REACHED OUT TO OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS INDIVIDUALLY
11:23:18 IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS.
11:23:20 I TOLD THEM OUR CONCERNS.
11:23:22 THE ROADS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY -- THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:23:27 LIMITS BUT THAT ARE COUNTY CONTROLLED.
11:23:30 AND THE RESPONSE WAS PROJECTS HAVE BEEN DELAYED FOR
11:23:34 LACK OF FUNDING; HOWEVER, THERE WERE GOING TO REACH OUT
11:23:37 TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WHICH I BELIEVE THEY DID
11:23:40 BECAUSE THE OTHER DAY IT WAS THEN RECOMMENDED FROM THE
11:23:44 AMERICAN RECOVERY FUNDS.
11:23:48 I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE OFFICIAL TIRE TO EARMARK
11:23:53 $35 MILLION FOR ROAD RESURFACING AND REPAVING.
11:24:00 I HAVE TOLD THEM AND SENT VIDEOS AND PHOTOS OF COLUMBUS
11:24:04 DRIVE, HOWARD AVENUE, ARMENIA AVENUE, ALL THE WAY DOWN
11:24:07 SOUTH PAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND NORTH.
11:24:11 HOPEFULLY THEY PUT THESE PROJECTS ON THE -- ON THE --
11:24:13 ON THE FRONT LINE HERE.
11:24:18 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WAS ON THE COUNCIL WITH ME SO WAS
11:24:20 COUNCILMAN VIERA THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA DURING THE CITY
11:24:23 COUNCIL MEETING AND WE DO IT AS A FORMALITY AND THE
11:24:28 PASS THROUGH, WE VOTED TO PAY PARTS OF ARMENIA AND
11:24:28 WHATNOT.
11:24:29 AND THEY ARE COUNTY.
11:24:32 THOSE PROJECTS WERE DELAYED.
11:24:35 I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT $35 MILLION IS GOING TO BE
11:24:36 ALLOCATED FOR THIS.
11:24:40 I AM SORRY THAT TRANSPORTATION WAS OVERTURNED BY A
11:24:44 COURT BECAUSE THAT WOULD PUT ALL OF NEWS A BETTER
11:24:44 POSITION.
11:24:48 WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CALF UP ON SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION,
11:24:53 RESURFACING AND REPAVING THAT WAS DELAYED FOR SO LONG.
11:24:54 THIS IS A START.
11:24:59 THE CITY OF TAMPA'S BUDGET BETWEEN $4 MILLION TO $5
11:25:00 MILLION.
11:25:05 WE RELIED ON THE MONEY BECAUSE IT WAS A FUND.
11:25:09 YOU GO TO THE NITTY GRITTY AND GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
11:25:11 WE GET COMPLAINTS OF OVERBUILDING AND APARTMENTS.
11:25:13 WE GET COMPLAINTS OF LOT SPLITTING.
11:25:16 WE GET COMPLAINTS OF UNDERFUNDED PARKS AND PARKS THAT
11:25:20 ARE NOT INVESTED IN ENOUGH, BUT IF WE INVEST IN THE
11:25:24 INFRASTRUCTURE BEYOND OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM WHICH WE
11:25:26 HAVE ALREADY WHICH IS VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
11:25:29 IF WE PAVE THE ROADS, I THINK A LOT OF OUR CONSTITUENTS
11:25:35 WILL BE HAPPY BECAUSE WHEN FOLKS PAY TAXES AS THEY ALL
11:25:39 DO, WANT TO SEE A RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT.
11:25:43 SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS PAVING A ROAD, PEOPLE WILL SAY I
11:25:45 AM PAYING MY TAXES AND SEEING RESULTS AND SOMETHING
11:25:49 THAT AFFECTS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US.
11:25:50 I WILL STOP THERE.
11:25:52 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:25:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE FROM TRANSPORTATION HERE?
11:25:56 WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY.
11:25:58 MR. CARLSON -- MR. DINGFELDER, I AM SORRY.
11:26:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM NOT THAT GOOD-LOOKING.
11:26:05 THANKS, MR. MANISCALCO, HE HIT A LOT OF POINTS I WAS
11:26:08 GOING TO MAKE.
11:26:14 I TALKED TO JEAN DUNCAN AND VIK ABOUT THIS THE OTHER
11:26:15 DAY.
11:26:22 IF YOU READ THE REPORT, IT BASICALLY SAID THAT FOR A
11:26:23 WHILE WE WERE DOING BETTER.
11:26:26 COUPLE OF YEARS AGO DOING BETTER AND I CAN'T REMEMBER
11:26:29 THE EXACT PERCENTAGES BUT THEY HAD A SCORING SYSTEM FOR
11:26:33 THE VARIOUS ROADS AND WHAT CONDITION THE PAVEMENT WAS
11:26:33 IN.
11:26:37 AND THINGS WERE LOOKING UP FOR A WHILE, AND THEN I
11:26:39 DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS, BUT NOW WE STARTED DROPPING
11:26:43 AGAIN.
11:26:44 >> GAS TAX.
11:26:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WAS ONE OF THEM.
11:26:48 GAS TAX REDUCTION, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, WE ARE KIND
11:26:52 OF TREADING WATER BUT NOW WE ARE SORT OF SINKING.
11:26:56 AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE ANSWER, WHAT IS THE
11:26:57 SOLUTION.
11:26:59 THEY SAID SUPPOSED TO BE OFF TRANSPORTATION.
11:27:03 WELL, THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT "THEY"THIS COMMUNITY
11:27:08 HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT A BOND ISSUE AND REFERENDUM FOR
11:27:09 20-PLUS YEARS.
11:27:14 I REMEMBER WHEN ED TURANCHIK WAS COUNTY COMMISSIONER
11:27:22 BACK IN THE '80S, PHYLLIS BUSANSKY AND PAM IORIO,
11:27:27 TALKING ABOUT FOR 20, 25 YEARS FOR REFERENDUM.
11:27:31 AND I AM NOT OPTIMISTIC IT WOULD HAPPEN.
11:27:35 AND FINALLY WHEN THE VOTERS PASSED IT, THE COURT
11:27:36 STRIKES IT DOWN.
11:27:39 I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE CONTINGENCY PLAN.
11:27:43 AND VIK, I SEE YOU COME ON BOARD AND WE DISCUSSED THIS
11:27:44 THE OTHER DAY.
11:27:48 I THINK IF WE ARE GOING GO TO FOR ANOTHER REFERENDUM.
11:27:49 THAT IS GREAT.
11:27:52 WE CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT.
11:27:55 BUT I THINK WE NEED A CONTINGENCY PLAN THAT SAYS WHAT
11:27:58 IF THE REFERENCE DOESN'T FAIL.
11:28:00 WE CAN'T START ALL OVER AGAIN THREE YEARS FROM NOW AND
11:28:04 SAY THAT FAILED, WHAT DO WE DO NOW AND SCRATCH OUR
11:28:04 HEAD.
11:28:07 BECAUSE THAT -- WE HAVE BEEN SCRATCHING OUR HEAD FOR 20
11:28:12 SOMETHING YEARS.
11:28:16 AS GUIDO SAID, BECAUSE WE GET -- WE DON'T GET PHONE
11:28:21 CALLS DEMANDING HIGH-SPEED RAIL AND DEMANDING, YOU KNOW
11:28:24 -- YOU KNOW, ALL OTHER TYPES OF MOBILITY STUFF EVEN
11:28:27 THOUGH WE KNOW IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
11:28:29 THE PHONE CALLS WE GET ARE ABOUT THE POTHOLES AND THE
11:28:36 PAVING THAT BASICALLY IS NOT GREAT IN THIS COMMUNITY.
11:28:37 AND ANYWAY.
11:28:38 LONG-WINDED.
11:28:40 I APOLOGIZE.
11:28:45 BUT BOTTOM LINE IS, VIK AND JEAN AND DENNIS, YOU KNOW,
11:28:48 WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A FINANCIAL PLAN TO ADDRESS
11:28:48 THIS.
11:28:56 AND WHETHER OR NOT I EVEN SUGGESTED, GO GOD FORBID, A
11:28:59 POSSIBLE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE, A LITTLE BIT ONE THAT
11:29:02 CAN RAISED 5 MILLION TO $10 MILLION, THAT WE WOULD
11:29:06 EARMARK YEAR AFTER YEAR JUST FOR ROAD PAVING.
11:29:09 BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER -- IT APPEARS WE DON'T
11:29:12 HAVE ANY OTHER WAY GETTING THAT MONEY.
11:29:16 SO IF THE REFERENDUM FAILS AGAIN, THAT IS WHAT I AM
11:29:18 GOING TO SUGGEST A YEAR OR TWO FROM NOW.
11:29:19 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:29:21 THERE IS VIK.
11:29:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: VIK?
11:29:27 >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:29:32 AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY ARISE,
11:29:35 BUT I AM GLAD WE ARE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
11:29:38 THIS IS A CHALLENGE.
11:29:40 UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ISN'T JUST A CHALLENGE WITHIN THE
11:29:41 CITY OF TAMPA.
11:29:45 THIS IS A CHALLENGE WITHIN THE REGION, THE STATE.
11:29:48 AND THE -- NATIONWIDE IN GENERAL.
11:29:52 AND I JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IT IS NOT JUST A
11:29:57 CHALLENGE WITH THE ROAD SURFACE AND POTHOLES ALONE AND
11:29:58 THE RISK THAT POSES.
11:30:05 IT ALSO CREATES STRONG -- STORMWATER CHALLENGES AND
11:30:09 STORMWATER PROBLEMS BECAUSE THE ROADWAYS ARE CONVEYANCE
11:30:12 FOR STORMWATER AND THINGS THAT IMPACT OUR RESILIENCY
11:30:16 AND SUSTAINABILITY AND THEN TO THE COUNCILMAN'S POINT
11:30:22 OF DEGRADATION OVER TIME WITH OUR ROADWAY SURFACES, I
11:30:25 WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT JUST FROM AN URGENCY
11:30:30 STANDPOINT, THAT A ROAD GOES FROM GOOD TO FAIR
11:30:33 CONDITION, FOR EXAMPLE, IT TAKES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
11:30:37 TIME FOR IT TO GO FROM FAIR TO POOR, IT TAKES LESSER
11:30:37 TIME.
11:30:41 PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE BIGGEST ENEMY FOR ROADWAYS IS
11:30:41 WATER.
11:30:45 AND WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE INCLEMENT WEATHER
11:30:48 EVENTS AND MORE EVENTS -- WEATHER EVENTS.
11:30:50 I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
11:30:53 WE WILL WORK WITH THE INTERNAL TEAM AND THE
11:30:57 ADMINISTRATION TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES.
11:31:03 WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET.
11:31:07 IN FACT WE ARE GOING TO GET A HEAD START OF FY '23
11:31:11 STARTING OCTOBER INTERNALLY TO SEE WHAT CAN WE DO.
11:31:14 TRADE-OFFS THAT WE CAN MAKE WITH OUR LIMITED BUDGET TO
11:31:18 -- TO EXTEND THIS SERVICE AND MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING AS
11:31:25 MUCH PAVING AS WE CAN BUT HAVING SAID THAT, OUR
11:31:27 PROBLEMS INCLUDE ANOTHER ZERO TO OUR BUDGET AND ONLY SO
11:31:31 MUCH WE CAN DO THROUGH OPTIMIZATION.
11:31:34 WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE FUND TRANSPORTATION
11:31:35 ALL TOGETHER.
11:31:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
11:31:40 I SAW MR. VIERA AND MR. CITRO.
11:31:41 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, THANK YOU.
11:31:44 FOR SOME REASON I CAN'T PULL UP THE DOCUMENT, BUT I
11:31:46 REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION A FEW DAY AGO.
11:31:49 VIK, TELL ME IF I AM IN THE BALLPARK.
11:31:53 I THINK WHAT JEAN SAID FIVE AND A HALF MILLION FOR ROAD
11:31:58 RESURFACING AND NEED 20, 22.
11:31:59 AM I IN THE BALLPARK.
11:32:01 >>VIK BHIDE: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:32:04 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT IS JUST TO KEEP UP WITH THE BASIC
11:32:07 ROAD REPAIR, NOT -- NOT REALLY REMAKING ROADS LIKE SOME
11:32:12 PEOPLE WOULD LIKE OR REBRICKING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
11:32:15 >>VIK BHIDE: THAT IS TO KEEP THINGS IN FAIR CONDITION
11:32:18 AND NOT ANYTHING ABOVE THAT.
11:32:21 >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S -- I THOUGHT -- BEFORE I RAN FOR
11:32:24 OFFICE I THOUGHT POTHOLES WERE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE
11:32:28 JOKED ABOUT IN POLITICS BUT IT IS THE NUMBER ONE OR TWO
11:32:30 THINGS THAT PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT.
11:32:31 PEOPLE ARE ANGRY.
11:32:34 THEY SAY WE PAY TAXES AND OUR ROADS ARE FALLING APART.
11:32:38 YOU ARE TIRED OF ME HITTING THIS DRUM, BUT WE HAVE TO
11:32:42 LOOK CAREFULLY OF THE EXISTING C RAS AND ANY POTENTIAL
11:32:44 CRAS.
11:32:47 IN THE NEW TAMPA AREA WE SHOULD BE TARGETED ON WHAT WE
11:32:51 NEED AND WHAT MONEY WE ARE GOING TO NEED FOR IT AND
11:32:55 VERY TARGETED BUDGETS, TIMELINES AND PLANS WE CAN PUT
11:32:58 IN PLACE TO NARROWLY CRAFT THIS.
11:33:01 THE SAME THING I BROUGHT UP THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AND
11:33:09 DOWNTOWN CRA AS YEAR OR SO AGO.
11:33:12 IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA
11:33:14 THAT WE REQUESTED.
11:33:16 AND THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ABLE TO PUT ANYTHING THEY
11:33:19 WANT ON THE LIST AND I THINK STAFF CAN IMPLEMENT MOST
11:33:24 OR ALL OF IT WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
11:33:27 AND THE QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THE
11:33:28 REST OF IT.
11:33:31 THE REST OF THE AREA SAYS HOW CAN I HAVE TORN-APART
11:33:35 ROADS WHEN GREAT AMENITIES ARE GOING IN ANOTHER AREA
11:33:40 AND THE OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY SUBSIDIZE, EAST TAMPA,
11:33:44 WEST TAMPA, AREAS WITH SLUM AND BLIGHT, IT IS OBVIOUS
11:33:45 WE NEED TO DO IT.
11:33:48 BUT THINK OF THIS, IF WE DIDN'T SHUT DOWN THE CHANNEL
11:33:50 DISTRICT CRA.
11:33:53 IF WE JUST SAID OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, PULL OUT $1
11:33:55 MILLION A YEAR.
11:33:58 20% INCREASE IN A BUDGET TO REPAVE ROADS.
11:34:02 IF WE WERE ABLE TO PULL $2.5 MILLION.
11:34:05 THAT WOULD BE A 50% INCREASE.
11:34:07 SMALL AMOUNTS OF MONEY.
11:34:10 DOESN'T HAVE TO HURT CHANNEL DISTRICT AND WE CAN DO
11:34:13 EVERYTHING THAT CHANNEL DISTRICT ASKS FOR BUT NEGOTIATE
11:34:15 TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS MONEY TO PUT BACK IN THE
11:34:18 REST OF THE CITY TO HIT THE BASIC NEEDS BECAUSE OF THE
11:34:20 REST OF THE CITY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE ALREADY BEING TAXED
11:34:24 FOR IT AND THEY DON'T WANT TAXES TO BE INCREASING FOR
11:34:27 SOMETHING THEY ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR, THANK YOU.
11:34:29 >>VIK BHIDE: CHAIR, IF I MAY?
11:34:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:34:36 >>VIK BHIDE: WITH THE COUNCIL'S COMMENTS, I THINK IT
11:34:39 IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WE HEAR THIS
11:34:41 FROM THE COMMUNITY A LOT AS WELL, JUST FROM THE
11:34:42 EDUCATION PERSPECTIVE.
11:34:46 THAT PROPERTY TAXES DO NOT PAY FOR TRANSPORTATION.
11:34:49 GAS TAXES PAY FOR TRANSPORTATION.
11:34:51 OTHER FEES PAY FOR TRANSPORTATION.
11:34:53 BUT PROPERTY TAXES DO NOT.
11:34:57 SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION FUNDING AND WHAT
11:35:02 REALITY THAT THE SOURCES OF FUNDING, IT IS GOOD TO BE
11:35:04 MINDFUL OF THAT.
11:35:07 IN THAT GAME, IT IS WHY WE SUPPORT FOR TRANSPORTATION
11:35:11 AND TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX MECHANISM.
11:35:16 PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT DOES DISTRIBUTE THAT LOAD ACROSS
11:35:23 THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING OUR VISITORS AND THIS
11:35:26 IS KEY BECAUSE THE POOL IS SHARED ALL THE PEOPLE THAT
11:35:28 UTILIZE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:35:31 THAT IS AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION IN THE CONVERSATION
11:35:33 THAT WE HAVE.
11:35:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA.
11:35:36 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:35:38 A LOT OF GOOD REMARKS.
11:35:43 I THINK BASIC IDEA IS THAT WE ARE ASKING CITY STAFF TO
11:35:47 PERFORM ON ISSUES LIKE REPAVING.
11:35:49 A TASK THAT THEY ARE UNABLE TO MEET BECAUSE OF A LACK
11:35:51 OF FUNDING.
11:35:56 THE GAP AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAYS IS 3:1.
11:36:00 AND I LIKE TO -- 3:4:1.
11:36:03 AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT THAT PENNY SALES TAX WOULD
11:36:07 HAVE WROUGHT US UP TO THAT $15 MILLION TO $16 MILLION
11:36:07 LEVEL.
11:36:11 THAT PENNY SALES TAX DIDN'T GIVE US WHAT WE -- WHAT OUR
11:36:12 DREAMS WERE AND WHAT WE WANTED.
11:36:14 IT WOULD HAVE GIVEN US WHAT WE NEED.
11:36:18 SO THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
11:36:21 WE ARE ASKING THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH FUNDING THEY HAVE
11:36:26 TO PRODUCE THE 1986 METS ON THE BUDGET OF THE 1962 METS
11:36:30 AND IT WILL NOT -- THAT IS A BASEBALL JOKE IF YOU GO
11:36:31 WAY BACK IN BASEBALL.
11:36:34 SO THAT IS THE BASIC IDEA THERE I THINK WITH REGARD TO
11:36:35 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:36:38 YOU KNOW COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER TALKING OF BACKUP PLANS
11:36:39 FOR A PENNY SALES TAX.
11:36:41 I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
11:36:44 I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY CLEAR AND FRANK IN THE
11:36:49 IDEA THAT WE NEED MORE REVENUE -- REVENUE, IN ORDER TO
11:36:52 FUND OUR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS.
11:36:53 IT IS JUST A BASIC FACT.
11:36:57 YOU LOOK AT THE CITY OF TAMPA BUDGET, IT GOES TO THINGS
11:37:00 LIKE PUBLIC SAFETY THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE CITY
11:37:01 SUPPORTS.
11:37:03 NOBODY WANTS A CUT IN THAT.
11:37:05 WE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER REVENUE SOURCES.
11:37:08 I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THAT THROUGH A SALES TAX.
11:37:11 AND IF THAT DOESN'T GO THROUGH, WE NEED TO LOOK AT
11:37:15 OTHER AVENUES FOR THE ABCS OF LOCAL GOVERNING, AND THAT
11:37:17 STARTS WITH ROAD REPAVING.
11:37:21 THAT IS JUST AS BASIC AS WE GET.
11:37:24 THAT CITY STAFF DOES A GREAT JOB WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
11:37:25 WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER WITH TAMPA PALMS
11:37:27 BOULEVARD, FOR EXAMPLE.
11:37:32 YOU THANK YOU FOR 110% FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, BUT
11:37:35 THERE ARE SO MANY NEEDS OUT THERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:37:39 AND WE HAVE TO ADDRESS JUST THE MATHEMATICAL CHALLENGES
11:37:39 THAT WE HAVE.
11:37:41 THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.
11:37:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO AND THEN MR. MIRANDA.
11:37:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:37:50 VIK, YOU ARE MY GO-TO GUY.
11:37:52 WITH THE HELP YOU PROVIDE ME.
11:37:57 VIK, YOU ARE A SUPERSTAR, AND I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS
11:37:58 TO KNOW THAT.
11:38:00 WE AS A SOCIETY HAVE EMERGENCY SHOT OURSELVES IN THE
11:38:01 FOOT.
11:38:04 THE MONEY WE GET FROM ROAD REPAIR IS GAS TAX.
11:38:06 BECAUSE WE WANTED A CLEANER AIR AND CLEANER
11:38:10 ENVIRONMENT, WE MADE SURE THAT OUR MANUFACTURERS MADE
11:38:13 OUR AUTOMOBILES MORE FUEL EFFICIENT.
11:38:15 HENCE YOU ARE BUYING LESS GAS.
11:38:18 HENCE YOU ARE GETTING LESS TAX DOLLARS.
11:38:23 IT MAY BE INSTEAD OF AN ADDITIONAL TYPE OF TAX OR A NEW
11:38:31 TYPE OF TAX HAVE WE THOUGHT OF GOING TO THE COUNTY WHO
11:38:36 OWNS A LOT OF ROADS IN THE CITY WHO WE ARE CUSTODIANS
11:38:40 OF, AND GOING TO THE COUNTY AND SAYING ISN'T IT TIME
11:38:44 WE RAISE TAXES ON OUR GAS SO WE CAN HAVE THAT EXTRA
11:38:51 ZERO IN WHICH TO REPAVE OUR STREETS AND FILL THOSE
11:38:51 POTHOLES.
11:38:55 HAVE WE GONE TO THE COUNTY SAYING WE NEED TO RAISE OUR
11:38:56 GAS TAX.
11:38:59 IF WE HAVE, WHAT HAVE THEY SAID?
11:39:03 I AM NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, VIK.
11:39:04 >>VIK BHIDE: I UNDERSTAND.
11:39:07 AND THESE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE ONGOING RIGHT NOW
11:39:08 WITH THE COUNTY.
11:39:12 THERE HAVE BEEN SOME IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT.
11:39:14 THEY ARE NOT SETTLED YET, BUT WE WILL BE HAPPY TO GET
11:39:16 BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
11:39:22 BUT ALSO WANTED TO ADD BECAUSE YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT OF
11:39:26 FUEL EFFICIENCY IMPACTING GAS TAX VALUES.
11:39:28 EVEN THOUGH EVERYTHING ELSE IS GROWING.
11:39:30 THERE IS ANOTHER THING THAT IS HAPPENING AND IT IS
11:39:35 GOING TO GROW, AND THAT IS ELECTRIC OF OUR FLEETS.
11:39:40 EVERYTHING FROM FACTOR, CARS, TRUCKS, YOU NAME IT.
11:39:42 THAT WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT AS WELL.
11:39:44 IN FACT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
11:39:50 AND WE ARE WORKING WITH ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS IN THE
11:39:57 STATE TO IDENTIFY DIFFERENT MEANS OF ELECTRIFICATION OF
11:39:59 OUR FLEET AND WHAT IT MEANS TO FUNDING.
11:40:04 AND THERE ARE SOME MODELS OUT THERE BUT WORKING THROUGH
11:40:07 THE STATE FOR A ELECTRIC VEHICLE MASTER PLAN.
11:40:10 THERE IS A DRAFT DOCUMENT THAT IS AVAILABLE ON THE
11:40:13 STATE'S WEB SITE THAT IS OPEN FOR COMMENTS.
11:40:17 AND THAT ADDRESSES THREE MAIN ITEMS, ONE IS, WHAT ARE
11:40:20 THE BUSINESS MODELS THAT WILL WORK TO GET
11:40:24 ELECTRIFICATION AND NECESSARY CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE
11:40:25 STATEWIDE.
11:40:31 THE SECOND IS, HOW WILL THE FUNDING SCENARIO FOR
11:40:34 TRANSPORTATION BE IMPACTED WITH ELECTRIFICATION AND
11:40:36 WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE.
11:40:39 A TAX, A FEE AT REGISTRATION AND DIFFERENT MODELS
11:40:40 THERE.
11:40:42 GEORGIA DOES IT ONE WAY.
11:40:45 CALIFORNIA DOES IT ANOTHER AND OTHER EXAMPLES AS WELL.
11:40:49 AND THEN THE THIRD PART OF IT IS WHAT ARE THE
11:40:54 REGULATIONS AND WHAT ARE THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE
11:40:56 NECESSARY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
11:41:00 THE EDMP MASTER PLAN DRAFT DOCUMENT DOES ADDRESS SOME
11:41:03 OF THESE THINGS AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STATE AND
11:41:06 LOCAL AGENCIES AND PROVIDE OUR INPUT TO THAT AS WELL
11:41:10 AND THE LEAGUE OF CITIES IS INVOLVED IN THAT EFFORT
11:41:15 WITH DRIVE ELECTRIC FLORIDA.
11:41:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: VIK, THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT
11:41:20 POINT.
11:41:22 LEAGUE OF CITIES.
11:41:25 THAT USE THEIR MOBILITY, PARKING AND ELECTRIFICATION
11:41:29 FOR ELECTRIC CARS FOR QUICK CHARGING AND PARKING AND IT
11:41:31 WAS BRINGING IN REVENUES FOR BOTH.
11:41:35 AND PORTION OF THAT REVENUE FOR CHARGING TOOK AND PUT
11:41:38 INTO THE FUNDS MUCH LIKE OUR GAS TAXES WAS.
11:41:39 ALWAYS GREAT IDEA.
11:41:42 THANK YOU, VIK, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:41:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MANY THINGS TO SPEAK ABOUT.
11:41:47 FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MILES IN THE CITY
11:41:49 THAT BELONG TO THE COUNTY, BUT I DON'T THINK HUNDREDS
11:41:50 OF THOUSANDS OF THEM.
11:41:54 ONLY 50 OR 60 MILES OF THAT.
11:41:57 WE ARE LOOKING AT A SMALL AMOUNT COMPARED TO THE CITY
11:41:59 OF 2100 SQUARE MILES.
11:42:03 120 SQUARE MILES, THOUSANDS OF MILES OF ROADS.
11:42:06 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CRA.
11:42:11 I HEARTEDLY AGREE WITH MR. CARLSON UNDER THE PROJECT.
11:42:14 IT WAS FINE THEN BUT CHANGED IN MY MIND THAT YOU HAVE A
11:42:19 MUCH NARROW -- TO STEM IT TO BE NARROWER SO THAT THE
11:42:22 GENERAL PUBLIC WILL NOT BE SUBSIDIZING IT LIKE IT IS
11:42:23 NOW.
11:42:24 PART OF IT ANYWAY.
11:42:26 YOU LOOK THE EV TAX.
11:42:30 GUESS WHAT, IF IT IS TRUE WHAT I HEAR, BY THE YEAR 2035
11:42:35 AND 2040, ALL THE CARS DRIVEN IN AMERICA WILL BE
11:42:36 ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
11:42:38 IT IS CHANGING QUICKER THAN WE THINK.
11:42:41 WHEN THAT HAPPENS, YOU BETTER HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE
11:42:44 TO REPLENISH THE GAS TAX.
11:42:47 IF NOT YOU WILL HAVE MEASLES ON ALL THE ROADS.
11:42:50 THAT MEANS YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE POTHOLES -- I CALL
11:42:52 THEM MEASLES ON THE ROAD.
11:42:55 AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAD THE MEASLES BECAUSE ALL YOU
11:42:58 ARE GOING TO SEE IS POTHOLES BEING FILLED.
11:43:01 NOT THAT YOU ARE NOT SEEING THAT NOW TO SOME DEGREE.
11:43:05 WHEN YOU BOND SOMETHING OUT, AND THEREFORE I HAVE
11:43:07 LEARNED A LESSON WAY BACK.
11:43:10 DON'T BUY ANYTHING UNLESS YOU CAN PAY FOR IT CASH.
11:43:12 THAT -- MY FATHER USED TO TELL ME THAT.
11:43:15 AND I LOOK BACK, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BONDING
11:43:22 PROCESS, IF YOU BORROW MONEY TO PAY FOR ALL THIS AND IF
11:43:25 YOU THINK AGGRESSIVELY, YOU CAN SET SOMETHING ASIDE BY
11:43:27 DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY THAT WE HAVE DONE TO
11:43:30 ACCUMULATE SOME MONEY EVERY YEAR GET AN EXTRA $5
11:43:32 MILLION TO $10 MILLION.
11:43:36 YOU WOULD BE WAY AHEAD OF THE GAME AND TAX OR BOND WILL
11:43:37 BE ZERO OR NOTHING.
11:43:40 I REALIZE YOU CAN'T EVEN ASK YOUR CITIZENS TO FORM AN
11:43:43 AGENCY AND LOAN THE CITY MONEY.
11:43:45 IT IS AGAINST THE LAW, BUT YOU CAN TAX THEM TO DEATH
11:43:47 AND IT IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW.
11:43:49 WHAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TOLD ME -- NOT THIS LEGAL
11:43:52 DEPARTMENT, BUT THE ONE PRIOR TO THIS ONE.
11:43:54 IN MY MIND, YOU HAVE TO SET UP SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN
11:43:58 GET SOME MONIES BEFORE YOU THINK OF BONDING.
11:43:59 AHEAD.
11:44:03 SO YOU CAN HAVE A HEAD START AND NOT BOND 100%.
11:44:07 IF YOU BOND 100% YOU WILL GET 50% OF WHAT YOU WANT DONE
11:44:10 BECAUSE THE REST OF IT IS INTEREST AND THE WAY IT WORKS
11:44:10 FOR 30 YEARS.
11:44:18 SO IT'S A TOUGH GO AND BITE THE BULLET WHAT WE ARE
11:44:22 GOING TO DO IT AND THE PUBLIC HAVE INPUT IN IT.
11:44:24 LIKE ALWAYS, I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH.
11:44:27 THE CRA IS COVERED, THE TAXES COVID, THE GAS, THE
11:44:28 COUNTY ROADS.
11:44:31 HERE WE ARE BACK TO GROUND ZERO BUT COME BACK TO
11:44:34 SOMETHING VERY SOON OR WE WILL REALLY BE IN TROUBLE.
11:44:37 IF WHAT HAPPENED WITH IDA CAME CLOSE TO TAMPA, THE
11:44:42 SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE NOW WILL NOT WORK.
11:44:43 THERE ARE NO PUMPS.
11:44:47 THERE IS NO WAY TO GET THAT WATER OUT.
11:44:50 AND WHEN THE BAY GETS HIGHER THAN WHAT IT IS AND THE
11:44:53 VOLUME OF WATER IS GREATER COMING IN, THAT THE VOLUME
11:44:56 OF WATER GOING OUT, THE SAME WATER GOING OUT WILL GO
11:44:59 RIGHT BACK WHERE IT CAME FROM WITH AN ADDITIONAL PUSH
11:45:00 OF HIGH TIDE.
11:45:02 SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THE BILLIONS OF
11:45:07 DOLLARS, $2 BILLION TO $3 BILLION TO MOVE THE WATER UP
11:45:08 NORTH.
11:45:11 HAVE A RESERVOIR OR SOME AREA TO DUMP THE WATER IN
11:45:11 BECAUSE IT WILL NOT WORK.
11:45:14 ANYONE WHO SAYS SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT IT DOES WORK,
11:45:18 IN THAT VOLUME OF WATER, I GOT TO SEE THAT PLAN.
11:45:21 BECAUSE IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DO WHAT WE ARE DOING
11:45:22 WITH HILL MONEY.
11:45:28 YES, IT WILL WORK WITH A LITTLE HEAVY RAIN AND STUFF
11:45:31 LIKE THAT, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE NO PUMPS PULLING MILLIONS
11:45:34 AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OUT, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO
11:45:35 SUCCEED.
11:45:38 IS ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
11:45:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:45:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL SEND WITH THIS SOMETHING
11:45:44 THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID.
11:45:45 WHAT WILL BE A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE.
11:45:49 A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE HAD A MILLAGE INCREASE
11:45:51 DISCUSSION, BUT SINCE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE
11:45:52 DEDICATED TO ROAD.
11:45:58 WHAT IS THE HOW MUCH -- HOW ARE THE INCREMENTS FOR THE
11:46:02 MILLAGE INCREASE THAT YOU GENERATE AN EXTRA $5 MILLION,
11:46:04 $10 MILLION, $15 MILLION A YEAR.
11:46:07 HOW MUCH DO YOU MOVE ON THE MILLAGE.
11:46:12 WITH THE PROGRAM IS FUNDED THROUGH THE UTILITY BILLS,
11:46:13 THAT'S CORRECT.
11:46:17 HOW DO WE LOOK AT POSSIBLY INCREASING THE UTILITY BILL
11:46:21 AN EXTRA COUPLE HUNDRED A MONTH FOR TAMPA RESIDENTS AND
11:46:25 THAT GOES TO ROADS AND STORMWATER, WASTEWATER, ALL
11:46:30 PARTS OF THAT MOBILITY WHERE WE ARE NOT BORROWING AND
11:46:31 BONDING.
11:46:35 PAY AS YOU GO AND COLLECT AS YOU GO KIND OF THING AND
11:46:39 WE KNOW WE HAVE A DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCE ALSO -- A
11:46:42 MILLAGE INCREASE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TEMPORARY AND
11:46:45 PUT A CAVEAT THAT WE HAVE TO IF THE COUNTY PLACES ON
11:46:48 THE BALLOT ANOTHER SALES TAX INCREASE, THAT WE
11:46:51 AUTOMATICALLY CANCEL THAT OUT AND RELY ON THE DEDICATED
11:46:54 SOURCE OF THE SALES TAX REVENUE.
11:47:01 SHOULD THAT MOVE FORWARD AND SHOULD THAT PASS.
11:47:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIR.
11:47:04 MR. MANISCALCO, GOOD QUESTIONS.
11:47:08 DURING THE BRIEFING I HAD THE OTHER DAY WITH VIK AND
11:47:11 JEAN, SOMEBODY CHIMED IN AND INDICATED AND I CAN'T
11:47:15 CONFIRM THIS, THAT THE MILLAGE INCREASE THAT -- THAT
11:47:18 THE FORMER COUNCIL DID, WHICH WAS, LIKE, THE FIRST ONE
11:47:21 IN 20 YEARS.
11:47:25 AFTER THE RECESSION, GENERATED -- I THINK IT IS IN THE
11:47:29 NEIGHBORHOOD OF $5 MILLION TO $10 MILLION.
11:47:32 ADDITIONAL DOLLARS WHICH WAS OBVIOUSLY THE SHORTFALL
11:47:34 THAT THE CITY WAS FACING THAT YEAR.
11:47:37 IF THAT IS THE CASE, I THINK THAT IS A PARTIAL ANSWER
11:47:43 FOR YOU, GUIDO, THAT -- THAT WHATEVER THE MILLAGE WAS.
11:47:46 I DON'T KNOW REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER BECAUSE I WASN'T
11:47:46 ON COUNCIL.
11:47:49 IF IT GENERATED $10 MILLION.
11:47:53 $10 MILLION IS DOUBLE THE CURRENT PAVING BUDGET.
11:47:56 SO THAT WOULD BE HUGE SHOT IN THE ARM, I THINK, FOR THE
11:47:59 PAVING -- FOR THE PAVING BUDGET.
11:48:02 WOULD IT SOLVE ALL THESE OTHER MOBILITY ISSUE AS SOON
11:48:02 AS NO.
11:48:04 CLEARLY NO.
11:48:07 BUT -- BUT WE START THIS DISCUSSION TALKING ABOUT
11:48:08 PAVING.
11:48:12 WITH REGARDS TO THE PIPE AND UTILITY AND THAT SORT OF
11:48:12 THING.
11:48:16 I HAVE A FEELING IF WE ASK MORRIS, HE WILL PROBABLY
11:48:18 TELL US WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THE UTILITY FUNDS AS
11:48:22 YOU KNOW ARE PRETTY MUCH SILOS.
11:48:26 AND SO YOU HAVE TO STAY WITHIN THOSE LANES OF -- IF YOU
11:48:28 ARE -- IF YOU WERE DEALING WITH WATER, IT IS JUST
11:48:28 WATER.
11:48:34 IF YOU WERE JUST DEALING WITH -- STRIPES TO STAY
11:48:35 SEPARATE.
11:48:38 ALTHOUGH WHEN YOU TEAR UP THE ROAD TO DO ANY OF THE
11:48:39 PIPES WORK.
11:48:40 YES, YOU HAVE TO FIX IT.
11:48:42 >> THE THING IS -- AND I WILL STOP HERE.
11:48:44 BUT A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
11:48:47 IT IS GOOD FOR ALL OF COUNCIL BECAUSE WE ALL GET THESE
11:48:48 COMPLAINTS.
11:48:51 AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T ALWAYS WAIT ON THE COUNTY TO
11:48:56 MOVE MORE ON A SALES TAX REFERENDUM THAT WILL PASS OR
11:48:56 NOT PASS.
11:49:00 A ONE-YEAR MILLAGE INCREASE TO CATCH UP WILL GIVE US
11:49:01 QUICK RESULTS.
11:49:04 IF THAT IS THE FASTEST ROUTE TO DO IT WHERE WE CAN
11:49:09 DELIVER IN A QUICKER FASHION BECAUSE AGAIN, WE ALL GET
11:49:11 THE CALLS AND THE BRUNT OF IT.
11:49:13 I THINK IT IS A WINNING SITUATION FOR EVERYBODY.
11:49:17 THE PEOPLE GET RESULTS AND WE KNOW LEADERSHIP AND QUICK
11:49:18 ACTION ON THIS.
11:49:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WONDER IF WE -- WE ARE RIGHT IN
11:49:23 THE MIDDLE OF BUDGET RIGHT NOW.
11:49:26 I WONDER IF WE SHOULDN'T, YOU KNOW THROW THAT
11:49:28 SUGGESTION TO STAFF AND THE MAYOR TO SEE IF THAT IS
11:49:31 SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO IMMEDIATELY TO ADDRESS THOSE
11:49:32 ISSUES.
11:49:36 MR. SHELBY, HIS HAND QUICKLY WENT UP.
11:49:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY ARE HEARING
11:49:45 THIS UP IN LEGAL, BUT CERTAINLY YOUR REQUIREMENTS.
11:49:48 YOUR TRIM NOTICES ARE OUT.
11:49:49 BUDGET HEARINGS ARE SET.
11:49:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TOO LATE?
11:49:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF IT WEREN'T.
11:49:55 BUT I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
11:49:58 CERTAINLY COULD YOU PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, BUT IN TERMS
11:50:02 OF MOVING FORWARD, EVEN IF IT COULD BE DONE, IT WOULD
11:50:07 BE PROHIBITEDLY TO RENOTICE THE CITY.
11:50:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
11:50:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR BUT THE
11:50:13 COUNTY EARMARKED THE $35 MILLION.
11:50:17 A FEW, NOT A LOT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT ARE COUNTY
11:50:21 AND PERHAPS ENCOURAGE OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE COUNTY
11:50:23 COMMISSION TO HELP US MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THESE
11:50:26 PROJECTS, BECAUSE THESE WERE APPROVED THREE, FOUR YEARS
11:50:27 AGO.
11:50:29 NOT LIKE WE ARE ASKING FOR NEW STUFF.
11:50:32 A LOT HAVE BEEN DEFERRED AND BENEFICIAL TO THE PEOPLE
11:50:35 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:50:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
11:50:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:50:42 MY THOUGHTS GOING BY MEMORY, I RECALL THE AD VALOREM
11:50:45 TAX COLLECTION OF THIS CITY IS ABOUT 50 MILLION SHORT
11:50:48 OF JUST PAYING THE POLICE AND FIRE IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN
11:50:49 A COMPARABLE.
11:50:51 THE COSTS ARE HOW MUCH YOU BRING IN AND WHAT THE
11:50:53 EXPENSES.
11:50:55 YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE DO THIS.
11:51:01 YOU LOOK AT AD VALOREM TAX, YOU MUST LOOK AT ANOTHER.
11:51:05 BECAUSE AD VALOREM TAX IS BASED ON THE VALUE OF THE
11:51:08 HOUSE AND HOME AND PIECE OF PROPERTY AND YOU RAISE IT A
11:51:09 LITTLE BIT.
11:51:11 GOES WAY UP TO SOMEBODY AND A LITTLE BIT TO SOMEBODY
11:51:13 ELSE AND YOU HAVE TO BE UNDERSTANDING.
11:51:15 TALKING OF ROAD REPAIR.
11:51:16 ALWAYS HAVE A CAR.
11:51:22 MOST OF US HAVE A CAR AND EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR
11:51:26 USING TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM WHICH IS A BUS AND THEY
11:51:29 HAVE TO -- YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT IN A MUCH BROADER
11:51:29 SYSTEM.
11:51:33 I AM NOT AGAINST ANYTHING, BUT I AM LOOK AT SOMETHING
11:51:37 MUCH BROADER TO MAKE IT EASY AND EQUITABLE FOR ALL.
11:51:40 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:51:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:51:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF WE ARE GOING TO ASK THEM TO REPAIR
11:51:50 THEIR PORTION OF THE ROADS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:51:54 CAN WE ASK THEM TO TAKE A LONG HARD LOOK OF RAISING THE
11:51:58 TAXES ON OUR GAS ALSO.
11:51:58 >> HOUR.
11:51:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYTHING ELSE?
11:52:02 THANK YOU, VIK, APPRECIATE YOU.
11:52:03 OKAY, LAST ITEM.
11:52:07 NUMBER 18.
11:52:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD TO SPEED THIS
11:52:10 UP.
11:52:13 THE ONLY REASON I ASKED TO DO NUMBER 18 WAS TO KIND OF
11:52:17 LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW SO IT IS NOT JUST A CONSENT ITEM
11:52:21 BUT LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT THIS YEAR'S TROUNCH OF
11:52:25 40 MILLION FROM THE FEDS FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN
11:52:29 ACT HAS ALREADY BEEN RECEIVED BY THE CITY.
11:52:31 AND NOW WE HAVE TO DECIDE HOW WE ARE GOING TO DIVVY
11:52:34 THAT UP.
11:52:36 AND DENNIS, YOU CAN TELL US HOW WE ARE GOING TO DIVVY
11:52:39 UP THE $40 MILLION.
11:52:42 BUT WHAT I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT
11:52:45 OUT OF THAT $40 MILLION, THE -- THE ADMINISTRATION AND
11:52:50 CITY COUNCIL WERE IN AGREEMENT WE WOULD EARMARK FOR
11:52:54 THIS YEAR $16 MILLION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I
11:52:55 THINK THAT IS A WONDERFUL THING.
11:52:57 AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY SHOULD
11:52:59 BE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.
11:53:03 THAT IS OVER AND ABOVE OUR OTHER -- OUR REGULAR
11:53:08 AFFORDABLE HOUSING MONEY.
11:53:11 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR, DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF
11:53:11 FINANCIAL OFFICER.
11:53:15 SIR, YOU ALREADY SPOKEN TO THE APPROPRIATION FOR
11:53:15 HOUSING.
11:53:18 A LITTLE OVER $16.1 MILLION.
11:53:22 WE HAVE AN ITEMIZATION ON THE -- ON THE AGENDA REPORT,
11:53:25 WHICH I WILL READ THROUGH, THE GENERAL FUND REF RUE
11:53:26 RECOVERY.
11:53:30 AGAIN, FOR THE REVENUE WE LOST IN THE GENERAL FUND AND
11:53:33 THE EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PANDEMIC IS $13
11:53:34 MILLION.
11:53:37 YOU HAVE $4.6 MILLION FOR FIRE VEHICLES.
11:53:40 $4 MILLION FOR RESURFACING.
11:53:42 AND $2.5 MILLION FOR SIDEWALKS.
11:53:46 FOR A TOTAL OF JUST OVER $40 MILLION.
11:53:49 AS YOU CORRECTLY STATED, THIS IS THE FIRST TROUNCH.
11:53:52 SOME TIME WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR IN LESS THAN A YEAR, WE
11:53:57 ANTICIPATE RECEIVING THE NEXT $40 MILLION.
11:53:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:53:59 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:54:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MOVE NUMBER 18.
11:54:06 MR. MIRANDA MOVES NUMBER 18.
11:54:10 MR. CITRO SECONDED.
11:54:11 >>DENNIS ROGERO: MR. CHAIR.
11:54:16 I OWE YOU A BACK BRIEF ON THE -- THE CAPITAL
11:54:17 CONSTRUCTION PROJECT FUND REFERENCE.
11:54:19 AND WE HAVE RESEARCHED THAT.
11:54:23 THAT IS A REPORTING AND COUNTY REQUIREMENT FOR THIS
11:54:23 GRANT.
11:54:27 SO THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE PUT THE RESURFACING MONEY OF $4
11:54:30 MILLION AND THE SIDEWALK MONEY OF $2.5 MILLION.
11:54:33 THAT IS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO SPEND THAT MONEY OUT
11:54:38 OF A CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUND.
11:54:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR FOR.
11:54:43 THAT MOVE AND SECOND ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:54:44 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:54:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:54:46 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:54:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:54:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:54:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:54:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:54:54 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:54:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MR. VIERA, ANYTHING TODAY?
11:54:59 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST VERY BRIEFLY.
11:55:00 COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:55:03 FIRST OFF, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU, IF I
11:55:07 MAY, A PUBLISH -- AS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAYS SHOUT
11:55:08 OUT.
11:55:09 I WILL STEAL THAT FROM YOU.
11:55:13 AND COUNCILMAN GUDES DOES SO MANY WONDERFUL THINGS FOR
11:55:17 HIS CONSTITUENTS, BUT OUR GOOD FRIEND KAREN CLAY, WHO
11:55:21 IS SUCH A NICE WOMAN NEED SOME HELP ON A PERSONAL
11:55:24 MATTER INVOLVING HER LATE SON, AND COUNCILMAN GUDES
11:55:26 PROVIDED SOME MUCH-NEEDED ASSISTANCE.
11:55:29 SO I CHECKED WITH HER TO SEE IF IT WAS OKAY TO GIVE YOU
11:55:30 A PUBLIC SHOUT OUT.
11:55:33 I KNOW YOU DON'T DO IT FOR THAT, BUT I WANTED TO SAY
11:55:33 THANK YOU.
11:55:37 THAT WAS VERY NICE OF YOU.
11:55:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GLAD TO HELP YOU OUT.
11:55:40 >>LUIS VIERA: WE APPRECIATE YOU.
11:55:40 GOD BLESS YOU.
11:55:44 IF I MAY APRIL 7, 2022, IMAGINE THAT.
11:55:49 I WANT A FIVE-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON -- YOU KNOW, WE
11:55:51 DON'T HAVE THE NAME OF THE PERSON HERE.
11:55:52 I WILL HAVE TO MOVE BACK ON THAT.
11:55:54 MY APOLOGIES.
11:55:54 DON'T HAVE THAT.
11:55:58 ON NOVEMBER 4, 2021 ALREADY I AM ASKING FOR A
11:56:02 FIVE-MINUTE PRESENTATION FROM TAMPA BAY ON
11:56:05 MENTAL HEALTH BEFORE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
11:56:06 >> SECOND.
11:56:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. VIERA.
11:56:12 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:56:14 MOTION AND SECOND.
11:56:14 MOTION PASSES.
11:56:16 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT.
11:56:17 THANK YOU.
11:56:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE SPOKEN ENOUGH TODAY, SIR.
11:56:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
11:56:23 >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN I NARROWED THE SCOPE OF THAT ITEM
11:56:24 EARLIER.
11:56:30 I THINK IT WAS -- THE ONE THAT MR. ROGERO WAS WORKING
11:56:36 ON.
11:56:39 ITEM NUMBER 40.
11:56:44 SO THAT IS FILE NUMBER CM 21-68963.
11:56:47 I FORGOT TO PUT THE DATE ON IT.
11:56:52 CAN THEY PLEASE COME BACK US TO ON OCTOBER 21.
11:56:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION MOVES.
11:56:55 MR. DINGFELDER SECONDED.
11:56:57 ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED.
11:56:59 MR. CITRO, YOU ARE NEXT.
11:57:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING RIGHT NOW, MR. CHAIR, THANK
11:57:02 YOU.
11:57:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER.
11:57:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CARLSON, SPEAKING OF DATES, SO
11:57:10 THE COMMUNITY WAS REALLY ENGAGED WITH US ON THIS
11:57:12 SIDEWALK ISSUE.
11:57:16 AND I THINK WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF WONDERFUL INPUT FROM
11:57:19 THE SIDEWALK STOMPERS AND THE OTHER GROUPS ADVOCATING
11:57:22 FOR CHANGES TO THE SIDEWALK ORDINANCE.
11:57:26 I THINK COUNCIL GOT TO A POINT WHERE WE WERE IN ALL
11:57:29 AGREEMENT MOVING FORWARD AND WE DIDN'T REALLY ESTABLISH
11:57:33 A DATE.
11:57:35 I HAVE INQUIRED WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:57:37 YOU KNOW THE STATUS OF THAT.
11:57:40 AND I THINK MAYBE YOU -- MAYBE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN SOME
11:57:44 OF THOSE E-MAILS BOUNCING AROUND.
11:57:47 THIS MORNING MISS ZELMAN SAID IF WE WANT TO MOVE
11:57:50 FORWARD FOR FIRST READINGS OF CHANGES PROPOSED THAT WE
11:57:56 CAN DO THAT ON 10/21 WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THEY HAVE
11:57:57 SOME CONCERNS.
11:58:00 MR. MIRANDA STEPPED OUT, BUT THEY HAVE CONCERNS OF
11:58:04 ADDRESSING THE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR RAISING THE FEE -- THE
11:58:07 IN LIEU FEE.
11:58:10 SOME LEGAL CONCERNS THINK THAT WON'T GET INTO TODAY
11:58:13 THAT COULD BE POTENTIAL LITIGATION.
11:58:17 SO MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL THE
11:58:21 OTHER GOOD THINGS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON WITH STAR AND
11:58:24 LEGAL FOR THE SIDEWALK ORDINANCE WITH -- WITH THE
11:58:29 DIRECTION TO LEGAL TO BRING ALL OF THEM BACK ON 10 --
11:58:33 21 FOR FIRST READING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CHANGING THE
11:58:35 IN LIEU FEE AMOUNT.
11:58:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:58:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER MADE A SECOND.
11:58:40 MR. MANISCALCO, A SECOND.
11:58:41 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:58:42 OPPOSED.
11:58:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUICK QUESTION.
11:58:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:58:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME SAY ONE THING, MARTY, BEFORE
11:58:50 YOU DO.
11:58:55 IN DEFERENCE TO MR. MIRANDA, HIS PENDING MOTION IS IN
11:58:57 THE IN LIEU FEE AMOUNTS.
11:58:59 I DON'T THINK HE NECESSARILY WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
11:59:01 THIS AND I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE BUILDERS
11:59:04 ASSOCIATION THAT SENT US A LET'S OTHER BASICALLY SAID
11:59:08 EXCEPT FOR THE IN LIEU FEE AMOUNT, THEY WERE IN FAVOR
11:59:12 OF THE REST OF THIS ORDINANCE.
11:59:13 MR. SHELBY, I AM SORRY.
11:59:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST TO GO BACK THE CLERK IS MAKE TAG
11:59:20 CLEAR THAT YOU COME BACK FOR THE SIDEWALK ORDINANCE FOR
11:59:23 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION ON OCTOBER 21 WITHOUT THE
11:59:29 ISSUE OF RAISING OR ADJUSTING THE IN LIEU FEE, THAT'S
11:59:30 CORRECT?
11:59:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.
11:59:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE OTHER ISSUE ABOUT THAT IS, I
11:59:38 HAPPEN TO NOTICE THAT WHILE -- WITH REGARD TO YOUR
11:59:41 MOTION, IT WAS NOTED -- NO DATE ATTACHED NOR WAS THERE
11:59:46 A DATE ATTACKED TO MR. MIRANDA'S MOTION.
11:59:49 AND WONDERING WHETHER WE LEAVE IT OUT THERE -- I DON'T
11:59:53 KNOW IF HE IS COMING BACK BUT MAYBE IT IS APPROPRIATE
11:59:58 -- I DIDN'T SEE MISS ZELMAN ON LINE TO TRAVEL TOGETHER
12:00:01 BECAUSE THE ISSUES ARE RELATED IN SOME FORM AND
12:00:01 FASHION.
12:00:05 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR INTENT IS WITH REGARD TO HIS
12:00:05 MOTION.
12:00:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THOUGHT HIS MOTION WAS
12:00:12 SPECIFICALLY TO THE IN LIEU FEE AMOUNT NOT GOING TO
12:00:14 ADDRESS ON THE 21ST.
12:00:15 IF HE WANTS TO SET IT.
12:00:19 LET HIM COME SET IT WHEN WE COME BACK NEXT WEEK.
12:00:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL BRING IT TO HIS ATTENTION AND MARY
12:00:25 BRIAN'S ATTENTION.
12:00:27 MAY -- MISS ZELMAN IS ONLINE.
12:00:32 RELATED TO ANOTHER MOTION OF YOU, MR. DINGFELDER.
12:00:35 ON MAY 6, YOU MADE A MOTION FOR A WORKSHOP REGARDING
12:00:41 THE COUNCIL LOOKING AT AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT LOOKING
12:00:44 AT THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT 16-02.
12:00:47 I BELIEVE THAT -- THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF A MOTION THAT
12:00:51 WAS SENT TO COUNCIL THIS WEEK ON AUGUST 31 FROM SUSAN
12:00:54 JOHNSON-VELEZ.
12:00:58 AND SHE STATES THAT THE LITIGATION IS ONGOING AND THE
12:01:00 LEGAL DEPARTMENT DOES NOT ANTICIPATE A RESOLUTION.
12:01:04 IT IS SET FOR DISCUSSION ON YOUR SEPTEMBER 23 WORKSHOP.
12:01:07 THEY ARE REQUESTING THAT THE MATTER BE REMOVED FROM THE
12:01:12 SEPTEMBER 23 WORKSHOP AND THERE IS NO DATE THAT -- TO
12:01:14 HAVE IT RESCHEDULED.
12:01:16 BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT TO -- BECAUSE
12:01:19 IT IS -- I BELIEVE IT IS RATTLESNAKE POINT.
12:01:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I READ THE MEMO, MR. SHELBY.
12:01:25 I AM COMFORTABLE WITH THE MEMO.
12:01:28 JUST SO WE CAN KEEP IT SOMEWHAT ALIVE, WHY DON'T WE
12:01:33 DEFER THAT ITEM TO THE JANUARY WORKSHOP.
12:01:36 AND JUST SO THERE IS A BOOKMARK.
12:01:39 IF THEY CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT IN JANUARY, THEY WILL LET
12:01:39 US KNOW.
12:01:43 ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT, MISS ZELMAN?
12:01:44 SO THAT IS MY MOTION.
12:01:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JANUARY 27, 9 A.M.
12:01:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER HAS A MOTION FOR
12:01:53 JANUARY 27 --
12:01:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 27TH OF JANUARY, 2022.
12:02:01 AND THE PURPOSE NOW TO TAKE IT OFF TODAY WOULD TO BE
12:02:04 INFORM THE COUNCIL AND GENERATE INTEREST THAT IT WON'T
12:02:07 BE HEARD ON THE 23RD OF SEPTEMBER.
12:02:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.
12:02:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION PLEASE.
12:02:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A MOTION BY MR. DINGFELDER AND
12:02:15 SECOND.
12:02:18 SECOND BY MR. CARLSON.
12:02:19 MOTION CARRIED.
12:02:22 ANYTHING ELSE.
12:02:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOTHING.
12:02:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:02:28 MOTION AND SECOND.
12:02:30 WE STAND ADJOURNED.
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