TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 9, 2021
5:01 P.M.
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17:00:49 >>CLERK: MIRANDA AND GUDES.
17:01:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY --
17:01:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
17:01:04 IT IS NOW 5:01.
17:01:06 YOU CALLED THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
17:01:09 A PHYSICAL QUORUM BEING PRESENT.
17:01:11 THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 9.
17:01:18 AND THIS MEETING OF QUASI-JUDICIAL AND OTHER MATTERS
17:01:23 ARE CONDUCTED WITH A LIVE IN-PERSON QUORUM PRESENT IN
17:01:27 CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS IN LIGHT OF THE CONTINUING
17:01:29 COVID-19 GOVERNMENT HEALTH STANDARDS AND GUIDANCE IN
17:01:33 EFFECT, THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE THE ABILITY TO
17:01:37 PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY THROUGH VIDEO TELECONFERENCE AS
17:01:41 FLORIDA STATUTE AND RULES COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY OR
17:01:43 CMT.
17:01:46 THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA CAN WATCH ON CABLE CHANNEL 640
17:01:50 FROM SPECTRUM AND FRONTIER CHANNEL 15.
17:01:54 AND ON THE INTERNET AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
17:01:58 THERE ARE WAYS TO PARTICIPATE THIS EVENING.
17:02:02 AND THOSE HAVE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE IN THE NOTICE WHICH
17:02:05 IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AT
17:02:10 TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.
17:02:17 WITH REGARD TO TONIGHT'S QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS,
17:02:20 PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY BY
17:02:24 PREREGISTERING BY CMT FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS AT
17:02:29 TAMPA.GOV/QUASI.
17:02:32 NOW MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THOSE PEOPLE
17:02:38 WHO ARE WILLING TO APPEAR IN PERSON BUT DO NOT HAVE
17:02:42 ACCESS TO COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY ARE ABLE TO
17:02:44 PARTICIPATE BY USING THE FACILITIES BEING MADE
17:02:49 AVAILABLE BY THE PUBLIC BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY
17:02:53 TAMPA AT OLD CITY HALL 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD ON THE
17:02:54 SECOND FLOOR.
17:02:57 PLEASE NOTE THAT USE OF MASKS ARE REQUIRED IN THE
17:02:59 BUILDING AND SOCIAL DISTANCING IS ENCOURAGED.
17:03:03 COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE SENT TO COUNCIL IN
17:03:06 ADVANCE BY E-MAIL.
17:03:09 AND THEY ARE ALSO AVAILABLE TO BE VIEWED AT
17:03:12 TAMPA.GOV/AGENDAS.
17:03:16 WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED BY MAIL OR E-MAIL HAVE BEEN
17:03:18 DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE INCLUDED IN
17:03:20 THE PERMANENT RECORD OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.
17:03:23 THE COMMENTS THAT ARE TIMELY RECEIVED WILL BE AFFORDED
17:03:27 EQUAL CONSIDERATION AS IF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE MADE
17:03:28 IN PERSON.
17:03:31 MR. CHAIRMAN, ONE LAST COMMENT.
17:03:35 IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING BY THE
17:03:37 GO-TO-MEETING PLATFORM.
17:03:42 IF YOU WERE GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY, PLEASE
17:03:45 NOTE THAT THE CHAT FUNCTION SHOULD NOT BE USED BY
17:03:48 THE PUBLIC TO COMMUNICATE WITH CITY COUNCIL.
17:03:50 PURELY FOR TECHNICAL PROBLEMS.
17:03:53 IF YOU ARE EXPERIENCING A TECHNICAL ISSUE USE THE CHAT
17:03:55 FUNCTION.
17:03:58 OTHERWISE, DO NOT COMMUNICATE WITH IT.
17:03:59 THOSE ARE MY REMARKS.
17:04:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE NEED A MOTION.
17:04:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION.
17:04:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
17:04:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED IT AND MR. CITRO
17:04:10 SECONDED.
17:04:11 ALL IN FAVOR.
17:04:12 OPPOSED.
17:04:13 MOTION CARRIES.
17:04:15 GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE A TIGHT SCHEDULE TONIGHT.
17:04:18 A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT ON A FEW ITEMS AND MAKE SURE WE
17:04:21 STICK TO THE TIME LIMIT TONIGHT.
17:04:22 GO BUCS TONIGHT.
17:04:25 I KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO WATCH THE GAME AND MAKE SURE
17:04:28 THAT WE GET THERE SO PEOPLE CAN GET IN FRONT OF OUR
17:04:32 TELEVISION SETS AND CHEER ON OUR HOMETOWN BUCCANEERS.
17:04:33 YES, SIR?
17:04:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE
17:04:39 COUNCILMEMBERS, BUT WHEN I RECEIVE THESE AND READ THE
17:04:43 APPLICANTS SO KIND TO APPLY AND SEND IT IN, SOME OF
17:04:47 THESE HAVE TWO COMPLETE AND SOME OF THESE -- I DON'T
17:04:50 KNOW IF IT IS ME OR I DIDN'T GET MINE COMPLETE.
17:04:53 THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THREE FOR EACH ONE.
17:04:55 SOME HAVE ONE, A COVER LETTER.
17:04:58 SO I ONLY HAVE TWO SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY
17:04:59 GETS A FAIR SHOT.
17:05:01 I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO LEGALLY IF WE
17:05:05 DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION UNLESS MY PACK CAME
17:05:05 INCOMPLETE.
17:05:07 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER MEMBERS.
17:05:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. DINGFELDER.
17:05:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST TO FURTHER THAT.
17:05:17 WHAT I AM HOPING FOR, MR. MIRANDA, IS THAT WE HEAR THE
17:05:18 INTERVIEWS TONIGHT.
17:05:20 WE HEAR THE PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT.
17:05:22 AND WE DEFER VOTING.
17:05:26 BECAUSE FRANKLY, I JUST HAD A CHANCE TO READ THROUGH
17:05:27 SOME OF THESE.
17:05:29 DON'T KNOW MOST OF THESE FOLKS.
17:05:31 I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT IT.
17:05:34 MAYBE TALK TO SOME OF THEIR REFERENCES AND THAT SORT OF
17:05:34 THING.
17:05:38 IF WE COULD -- WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON IT NOW BUT
17:05:41 CONSIDER DEFER VOTING AFTER WE HEAR FROM EVERYBODY AS
17:05:44 OPPOSED TO RUSHING IN.
17:05:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AID MEETING WITH CAMARIA AND SHE WILL
17:05:51 COME ON AND THE CITY ATTORNEY IN REFERENCE TO THAT
17:05:52 ITEM.
17:05:55 WE UNDERSTAND THIS WAS SOME ITEMS THAT WERE PUT AHEAD
17:05:58 OF TIME BECAUSE OF THE TRAINING CLASSES THAT NEED TO
17:06:03 START TO GET THESE FOLKS IN ON TIME AND BE ABLE TO DO
17:06:05 THEIR SERVICE ON THE BOARD.
17:06:08 THERE ARE SOME IDEAS -- I WILL LET HER GO INTO DETAIL
17:06:11 IF THAT BE THE WISHES OF THIS COUNCIL AFTER WE HAVE
17:06:18 HEARD HER OPENING STATEMENTS.
17:06:25 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: IF THERE IS A DATE TO VOTE.
17:06:27 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CANDIDATES TO GET
17:06:29 THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
17:06:31 MR. SHELBY, I DO SEE YOUR HAND?
17:06:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
17:06:44 I WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL DEFER TO MISS PETTIS-MACKLE
17:06:48 BECAUSE COUNCIL SHOULD KNOW THE CONTEXT OF GOING
17:06:51 FORWARD GIVEN WHAT YOU SAID TONIGHT AND GIVEN WHAT THE
17:06:53 SITUATION IS.
17:06:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE SHE IS.
17:06:56 GOOD EVENING.
17:07:06 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE.
17:07:10 I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD.
17:07:14 CITY COUNCIL'S SELECTION FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
17:07:19 WE RECEIVED 11 APPLICATIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL.
17:07:21 THE APPLICATIONS WERE PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED TO CITY
17:07:22 COUNCIL BY THE CLERK.
17:07:25 WITH YOUR SELECTION, THE NEW CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD
17:07:28 MEMBER WILL BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE UPCOMING
17:07:33 TRAINING SESSIONS WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE BOARD AT
17:07:38 THE SEPTEMBER 21, 2021 CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD MEETING.
17:07:42 THAT WILL BE THE FIRST TRAINING THAT ALL MEMBERS WILL
17:07:43 BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN.
17:07:47 AND THIS IS WHY THIS SELECTION PROCESS WAS MOVED UP IN
17:07:50 ORDER FOR THE NEW MEMBER TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN
17:07:53 THE TRAINING SESSIONS MOVING FORWARD.
17:07:57 IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, MAY I PROCEED IN INTRODUCING THE
17:08:00 CANDIDATES FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATIONS.
17:08:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MAY PROCEED.
17:08:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
17:08:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY.
17:08:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE DISCUSSION IF YOU WANT TO SAVE IT
17:08:12 UNTIL THE END GIVEN WHAT COUNCIL HAS INDICATED UP
17:08:15 FRONT, DO YOU WANT TO KNOW FOR THE RAMIFICATIONS FOR
17:08:18 DOING THAT IF COUNCIL DOES NOT MAKE ITS DECISION
17:08:20 TONIGHT OR TALK ABOUT IT LATER AFTER YOU HEAR ALL THE
17:08:21 PEOPLE.
17:08:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET'S GET TO THE PEOPLE, MR. SHELBY.
17:08:30 BUT AT THE END, IF THE COUNCIL IS FIRM ON A NONVOTE,
17:08:33 THEN CAMARIA CAN TELL US THE OPTIONS.
17:08:35 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU.
17:08:38 THE FIRST APPLICANT FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERING IS
17:08:45 ROSS ALANDER, AND I BELIEVE HE IS APPEARING VIRTUALLY.
17:08:46 >> YES.
17:08:47 AM I ON NOW?
17:08:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
17:08:51 WE HAVE YOU, YES, SIR.
17:08:54 >> ROSS ALANDER.
17:08:56 I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 39 YEARS FROM MICHIGAN,
17:08:58 LANSING AND FLINT.
17:09:00 I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN BOTH
17:09:05 CITIES, AS WELL AS LONGBOAT KEY, OPEN HOUSING AND OTHER
17:09:06 AREAS.
17:09:09 I LIKE WHAT THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD, PARTICULARLY
17:09:13 READ MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR POSSIBLE POLICY CHANGES.
17:09:18 I THINK THAT IS CRITICAL FOR INPUT AND FROM THE BOARD
17:09:22 LIKE WE HAVE HERE.
17:09:25 I CAME DOWN HERE FROM MICHIGAN.
17:09:28 I WAS VICE PRESIDENT OF TAMPA GENERAL FOR TEN YEARS AND
17:09:33 TAUGHT AT USF AND, IN FACT, STILL TEACH AT USF AS AN
17:09:33 ADJUNCT.
17:09:39 I AM AN ARBITRATOR AND INVOLVED IN CONFLICT RESOLUTION
17:09:42 ON AN ONGOING BASIS.
17:09:45 ONE THING IS BUILDING TRUST AND ENHANCING RELATIONSHIPS
17:09:47 WITH EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THAT AND NEGOTIATIONS AS WELL
17:09:50 THAT.
17:09:54 IN MY LABOR ARBITRATIONS -- AS YOU KNOW AN ARBITRATOR
17:09:58 REALLY CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS -- REALLY CAN'T CHANGE
17:10:03 POLICY IS WHAT I AM SAYING AND ARBITRATOR CAN MAKE
17:10:06 RECOMMENDATIONS AND I FEEL IT IS MORE AND MORE
17:10:10 MEDIATION IN IT WHERE YOU GET INVOLVED IN PROBLEM
17:10:12 SOLVING AND I REALLY ENJOY DOING THAT.
17:10:16 I AM SURE OF MY FRIENDS CALL ME A NEGOTIATIONS NERD,
17:10:20 BUT I LIKE DOING THAT STUFF, PARTICULARLY IN LABOR
17:10:25 ISSUES AND PROBLEM RESOLUTIONS.
17:10:29 AND OFFERING OPPORTUNITIES TO -- TO POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS.
17:10:31 I GUESS THAT'S WHAT IT IS ABOUT.
17:10:35 THE KEY THING IN LABOR RELATIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS IN
17:10:38 ARBITRATION IS LISTENING.
17:10:39 REALLY LISTENING.
17:10:40 LISTENING HARD.
17:10:42 IT IS HARD TO LISTEN SOMETIMES.
17:10:44 AND I THINK I AM A GOOD LISTENER.
17:10:46 I AM VERY PATIENT.
17:10:50 I AM INVOLVED WITH THE JIMMY CARTER CENTER IN ATLANTA
17:10:54 AND CONFLICT RESOLUTION PROGRAM THERE ON SOME CASE
17:10:55 ISSUES.
17:10:58 AND I JUST -- JUST BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT AND I REALLY
17:11:01 THINK THAT I COULD -- I COULD HELP.
17:11:02 I COULD HELP.
17:11:04 I COULD BE A PART OF THAT BOARD AND I REALLY COULD
17:11:05 ASSIST.
17:11:06 I LOVE THE AREA.
17:11:09 AND MY FAMILY IS FROM THIS AREA.
17:11:11 AND I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO DO THAT.
17:11:14 AGAIN, THE KEY THING WILL BE BUILDING TRUST AND
17:11:18 RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL THAT COME BEFORE THE BOARD.
17:11:22 THAT IT IS A BOARD -- NOT JUST A BOARD FOR YES OR NO OR
17:11:25 WHATEVER, BUT A BOARD THAT CAN REACT AND RESPOND AND
17:11:28 POTENTIALLY RESOLVE ISSUES.
17:11:31 THAT THE WHOLE IDEA IN A PROACTIVE KIND OF WAY.
17:11:37 AND I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT NATIONALLY WITH PUBLIC
17:11:40 AGENCIES WITH MARTA, IN ATLANTA, THE PUBLIC
17:11:42 TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZATION, SCHOOL BOARDS, MIAMI-DADE
17:11:48 POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND OPA-LOCKA AS WELL AS
17:11:49 COUNTY SCHOOL BOARDS TOO.
17:11:53 AND I WILL LEAVE WITH THIS, ONE OF MY FAVORITE QUOTES
17:11:57 TALKING ABOUT ARBITRATION OR MEDIATION OR LISTENING OR
17:12:00 CONFLICT RESOLUTION REALLY IS A QUOTE FROM SAINT
17:12:05 FRANCIS ASSISI, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND BEFORE I AM
17:12:07 UNDERSTOOD.
17:12:09 IN OTHER WORDS, REALLY LISTENING AND I AM A REAL
17:12:11 LISTENER AND I CAN DO THAT.
17:12:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
17:12:15 APPRECIATE THAT.
17:12:21 MADAM CLERK, MR. SHELBY, DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF ALL 11
17:12:24 APPLICANTS IN FRONT OF YOU.
17:12:25 CAN YOU GIVE THAT TO ME.
17:12:28 MR. MIRANDA INDICATED HE IS MISSING INFORMATION IN THE
17:12:29 PACKET.
17:12:32 HOWEVER WE LOOK AT IT TONIGHT, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
17:12:39 WE GET COMPLETE PACKAGES TO ALL COUNCILMEMBERS.
17:12:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVEN THE ONES THAT I HAVE ARE
17:12:42 INCOMPLETE.
17:12:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE COMPLETE
17:12:48 PACKETS TO ALL COUNCILMEMBERS BY TOMORROW SO THEY CAN
17:12:52 LOOK AT IT OVER THE WEEKEND DEPENDING ON HOW WE DECIDE
17:12:53 WITH A VOTE.
17:12:59 WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE A COMPLETE
17:12:59 PACKET.
17:13:01 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THE NEXT APPLICANT IS SUE ANN
17:13:05 BARLOW.
17:13:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHO IS THAT?
17:13:13 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: SUANNE BARLOW.
17:13:13 PRESENT.
17:13:18 I AM CALLING THEM ALPHABETICALLY.
17:13:19 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
17:13:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD EVENING.
17:13:23 WE CAN HEAR YOU.
17:13:25 >> HI, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION
17:13:27 FOR ME.
17:13:32 WHAT I BELIEVE -- I AM VERY INTERESTED IN BEING MORE
17:13:35 INVOLVED IN MY COMMUNITY AND I BELIEVE WHAT MAKES ME
17:13:38 QUALIFIED FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD IS, FIRST OF
17:13:41 ALL, MY COMMITMENT TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND IN ALL
17:13:46 FAIRNESS, WITHOUT PARTIALITY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY WITH
17:13:51 UPMOST RESPECT WITH HONOR AND DIGNITY TO THE BEST OF MY
17:13:52 ABILITY.
17:13:54 MY INVOLVEMENT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY BEGAN 20 YEARS AGO
17:13:55 WHILE IN THE MILITARY.
17:13:59 I WAS STATIONED AT MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE, WHICH WOULD
17:14:01 BE MY FINAL ASSIGNMENT.
17:14:04 I WAS THERE FROM 2001 TO 2004.
17:14:08 AND IT WAS FROM THIS MILITARY BACKGROUND AND THE HEALTH
17:14:11 CARE FIELD THINK THAT BRING OTHER QUALIFICATIONS SUCH
17:14:18 AS PRINCIPLES FOR WHICH OBJECTIVITY, OBJECTIVELY
17:14:22 REVIEWING HEALTH RECORDS OF CLAIMS AGAINST PROVIDERS TO
17:14:25 DETERMINE PROFESSIONALS STANDARD OF CARE.
17:14:30 AND AS AN OFFICER, TO UPHOLD THE HIGHEST OF STANDARDS.
17:14:32 I KNOW THE CHALLENGES AND REWARDS THAT COME WORKING
17:14:37 WITH WILDLY DIVERSE STAFF WHILE KEEPING EVERYONE
17:14:39 FOCUSED ON THE MISSION, AND AT THE SAME TIME, BEING
17:14:43 UNITED IN THAT MISSION.
17:14:46 THE NECESSITY OF WRITTEN STANDARDS OF PRACTICE THAT
17:14:50 COVER THE WORKPLACE IN EVERY AREA WITH ALL THOSE WORK
17:14:53 PROCEDURES THAT ARE PERFORMED THERE.
17:14:57 THE MILITARY TOOK ME TO MANY CITIES AND PLACES AND GAVE
17:15:01 ME SCORES OF COMMUNITIES AND INTRODUCED ME TO VARIED
17:15:02 EXPERIENCES.
17:15:06 IN ADDITION, I SOUGHT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MANY -- AND
17:15:08 MULTIPLE VOLUNTEER ACTIVITIES WERE POSSIBLE THROUGHOUT
17:15:09 MY CAREER.
17:15:13 SINCE RETIREMENT, I HAVE CONTINUED TO VOLUNTEER IN THIS
17:15:17 CITY WITH SEVERAL SERVICE AGENCIES.
17:15:22 AT TIME VOLUNTEER ACTIVITY LOOKS VERY UNOFFICIAL AND AS
17:15:25 I HELP MY NEIGHBORS IN NEED.
17:15:28 WE CAN ALL ACKNOWLEDGE THIS PAST ONE AND A HALF YEARS
17:15:32 HAVE PUT GREAT NEED IN FRONT OF ALL OF US.
17:15:34 I HOPE FROM WHAT YOU HEARD ME SAY YOU WILL AGREE THAT
17:15:37 MY HISTORY DEMONSTRATES I HAVE THE ABILITY AND
17:15:41 QUALIFICATIONS TO BUILD WORKING RELATIONSHIP, TO
17:15:44 COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY WITH DIVERSE GROUPS, TO SERVE
17:15:46 THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS ROLE AS WELL.
17:15:51 I TRUST WHAT I HAVE PRESENTED MEETS YOUR EXPECTATIONS.
17:15:55 A FEW THINGS I HAVE NOT MENTIONED, I HAVE A COUNSELING
17:15:56 DEGREE.
17:16:00 AND I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT.
17:16:04 LISTENING AND GETTING TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER WELL IS SO
17:16:05 IMPORTANT.
17:16:08 I OFFER THIS TO YOU SINCERELY AND IN GOOD FAITH.
17:16:11 AND I DO INVITE ANY QUESTIONS OR POINTS OF
17:16:20 CLARIFICATION YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME AT THIS TIME.
17:16:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE WE DOING QUESTIONS?
17:16:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DIDN'T PLAN ON TAKING QUESTIONS.
17:16:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, THIS IS A QUESTION I WAS
17:16:34 REALLY GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY, TIME PERMITTING, BUT
17:16:38 WHAT -- WHAT IS -- WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE TO THE -- TO
17:16:44 THE TRAGIC FLOYD MATTER AND BLACK LIVES MATTER AS A
17:16:45 WHOLE?
17:16:47 AND YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME.
17:16:48 SORRY.
17:16:51 >> EXTREMELY GRIEVING AND HARD FOR EVERYONE.
17:16:54 I MEAN, IT WAS JUST TERRIBLY SADDENING ACROSS THE
17:16:56 COUNTRY AND INCLUDING MYSELF.
17:16:57 I MEAN.
17:17:00 IF I COULD JUST SAY IT THAT WAY.
17:17:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
17:17:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, A POINT OF CLARITY.
17:17:07 LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
17:17:11 IF THIS IS AN INTERVIEW PROCESS OR STANDARD THREE
17:17:14 MINUTES OR WHAT IS THE PROCESS AS FAR AS THE TIME GOES.
17:17:17 IF COUNCILMEMBERS WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS, I DON'T WANT
17:17:20 TO NOT ALLOW THEM TO ASK A QUESTION.
17:17:22 IF IT IS IN A TIME FRAME.
17:17:25 WHAT DO WE HAVE GOING ON?
17:17:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FRANKLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE NOT
17:17:32 GIVEN IT SIGNIFICANT THOUGHT.
17:17:36 IN THE PAST, YOU HAD APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND
17:17:39 COMMITTEES AND THEY HAVE JUST BEEN HANDLED WITHOUT A
17:17:43 DIALOGUE INTERVIEW POSING QUESTIONS TO EACH PERSON.
17:17:47 THIS IS CERTAINLY AN UNIQUE BOARD AND UNIQUE
17:17:48 EXPERIENCE.
17:17:52 IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, BUT CERTAINLY WE DID NOT SET
17:17:56 FORTH THE GROUND RULES IN ADVANCE, SO IT IS COUNCIL'S
17:17:56 PLEASURE.
17:18:00 ALL I WILL ASK IN THE INTEREST OF FAIRNESS THAT YOU BE
17:18:02 CONSISTENT.
17:18:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT IF WE HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR THEIR
17:18:10 SPIEL AND IF COUNCILMEMBERS -- A MINUTE FOR
17:18:12 COUNCILMEMBERS TO ASK QUESTIONS.
17:18:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT MAY BE BUT COUNCIL, IN ALL
17:18:18 FAIRNESS, THEY MAY HAVE PARTICIPATED AND PREPARED FOR
17:18:19 THREE MINUTES BECAUSE THAT IS NORMALLY WHAT YOU HAVE
17:18:21 DONE IN THE PAST.
17:18:26 SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO AIR ON THE SIDE OF THE
17:18:29 BENEFIT OF GIVING THEM THAT EXTRA MINUTE, AND HOW DID
17:18:33 YOU SAY YOU WANTED TO HANDLE THEIR QUESTIONS?
17:18:34 QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL.
17:18:37 AND THE QUESTION IS -- IF IT IS A QUESTION FOR ONE.
17:18:38 OR IS IT A QUESTION FOR ALL.
17:18:42 AND WHEN DO YOU DO THAT BECAUSE LOGISTICALLY ESPECIALLY
17:18:46 IF THERE ARE PEOPLE DOWNSTAIRS AT THE KIOSK COMING AND
17:18:50 GOING LOGISTICALLY IT IS DIFFICULT AND ALSO DIFFICULT
17:18:53 FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE WITH REGARD TO VIRTUAL TO BRING
17:18:55 UP PEOPLE AND BRING THEM BACK.
17:19:01 AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS IN -- MISS LUCAS, IF SHE HAS A
17:19:03 COMMENT OF HOW IT IS BEST ADDRESSED THAT WAY.
17:19:08 I WILL JUST BE CONCERNED THAT WHATEVER THE PROCESS IS,
17:19:11 IT IS CONSISTENT AND APPLIED FAIRLY.
17:19:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE ALREADY ON PERSON NUMBER TWO.
17:19:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU WANT THE QUESTION BROUGHT TO
17:19:19 PERSON NUMBER ONE.
17:19:22 BACK FROM PERSON NUMBER ONE AND COMPLETE EACH
17:19:22 INTERVIEW.
17:19:26 MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE WHEN YOU ARE COMPLETE WITH
17:19:29 THE APPLICANT, THEN YOU ARE ABLE TO MOVE ON TO THE
17:19:30 NEXT.
17:19:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT WE WILL DO WE WILL LET THEM
17:19:35 COMPLETE THEIR TIME.
17:19:39 I WILL ASK COUNCILMEMBERS ANY QUESTION FOR THAT
17:19:41 PARTICULAR APPLICANT AND THEN WE WILL MOVE TONIGHT NEXT
17:19:42 APPLICANT.
17:19:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
17:19:46 AND HOW IS IT THAT YOU WANT TO HANDLE THE PREVIOUS
17:19:46 APPLICANT.
17:19:48 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT GENTLEMAN?
17:19:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAD NO QUESTIONS.
17:19:54 MR. DINGFELDER -- HE MAY NOT STILL BE ON.
17:19:55 HE IS ON?
17:19:55 BRING HIM BACK.
17:19:56 BRING HIM BACK.
17:19:58 THAT WAY WE CAN BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY THE SAME QUESTION
17:20:03 THAT MR. DINGFELDER MAY ASK TO ALL THE APPLICANTS.
17:20:05 >> I AM BACK.
17:20:06 >> YES, RIGHT HERE.
17:20:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED
17:20:09 WITH YOUR QUESTION, SIR.
17:20:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. ALANDER, I AM JUST CURIOUS
17:20:19 SINCE WE HAD SORT OF A RACIALLY CHARGED ENVIRONMENT THE
17:20:21 LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE TO BLACK
17:20:27 LIVES MATTER AND THE FLOYD MATTER?
17:20:28 >> WELL, THAT'S AMERICA.
17:20:30 I MEAN THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS.
17:20:33 AND WE NEED TO DEAL WITH IT.
17:20:35 BE UP FRONT WITH IT.
17:20:36 DEAL WITH IT.
17:20:37 BE VERY OPEN ON IT.
17:20:41 AND I THINK IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE COUNTRY THEY ARE
17:20:41 DOING THAT.
17:20:46 OBVIOUSLY THE FLOYD -- THINGS WENT REALLY WRONG THERE.
17:20:50 AND BLACK LIVES MATTERS I THINK RAISED A LOT OF GOOD
17:20:53 POINTS, ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH.
17:20:57 AND IT IS KIND OF AN ONGOING -- AN ONGOING THING, BUT
17:21:00 ALSO GOES ON TO OUR FARMWORKERS.
17:21:04 ISSUES WITH FARMWORKERS HAVE THE SAME.
17:21:09 I AM CHAIR OF THE BETHEL FARMWORKER MISSION IN WIMAUMA
17:21:11 AND THEY FACE DIFFERENT THINGS.
17:21:15 DISCRIMINATION ISSUES AND SO ON.
17:21:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
17:21:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:21:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BRIEFLY, THE EVENTS OVER THE LAST YEAR
17:21:28 AND A HALF, WILL THAT GIVE YOU ANY BIAS TOWARD THE
17:21:29 POLICE FORCE?
17:21:30 >> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
17:21:34 I KNOW IN MY ARBITRATION, I WORK WITH SOME POLICE
17:21:34 DEPARTMENTS.
17:21:38 AND I HEAR -- I HEAR BOTH SIDES.
17:21:42 AND -- AND IT IS A TOUGH SITUATION AND JUST NEED TO
17:21:46 LISTEN AND HEAR ALL THE FACTS, BUT I HAVE NO BIAS AT
17:21:46 ALL.
17:21:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
17:21:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS
17:21:54 GENTLEMAN?
17:21:54 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
17:21:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BRING SUANNE UP TO THE PODIUM ON THE
17:22:07 SAME FLOOR.
17:22:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I.T.
17:22:11 GO BACK TO THE SECOND FLOOR.
17:22:16 ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. BARLOW.
17:22:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL ASK THE SAME QUESTION.
17:22:21 THE EVENTS IN YEAR AND A HALF BECAUSE OF THE DEATH --
17:22:25 THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD, WILL THAT BRING ANY BIAS
17:22:27 FROM YOU AGAINST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT?
17:22:28 >> NOT AT ALL.
17:22:30 I HAVE NO BIAS AGAINST THE POLICE.
17:22:34 ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY I CERTAINLY AM CONCERNED FOR ANY
17:22:38 UNWARRANTED, UNNECESSARY FORCE.
17:22:42 AND CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT HAS TO BE INVESTIGATED WHEN
17:22:43 THAT IS THE CASE.
17:22:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:22:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
17:22:48 ALL RIGHT.
17:22:53 NUMBER 3, I BELIEVE.
17:22:56 >> CITY COUNCIL, THE NEXT APPLICANT IS BIANCA BROOKS,
17:23:01 AND SHE PROVIDED A WRITTEN SUMMATION IN ADDITION TO HER
17:23:07 APPLICATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL EARLIER.
17:23:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOES EVERYONE HAVE --
17:23:13 >> SHE IS NOT AVAILABLE TONIGHT.
17:23:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY, WE NEED TO -- MR. MIRANDA ONLY
17:23:21 HAS ONE SHEET OF PAPER -- THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO MAKE
17:23:24 SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE TOMORROW FOR ALL COUNCILMEMBERS
17:23:27 IN THEIR BOXES, IF POSSIBLE.
17:23:29 WE WILL GO TO THE FOURTH ONE.
17:23:31 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THE NEXT APPLICANT IS SCOTT
17:23:33 BUSHWAY AND HE IS PRESENT.
17:23:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
17:23:40 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
17:23:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD EVENING.
17:23:44 >> MY NAME IS SCOTT BUSHWAY.
17:23:47 I AM ONE-YEAR RESIDENT OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
17:23:50 LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND.
17:23:52 I HAVE 32 YEARS OF PROGRESSIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT
17:23:56 EXPERIENCE IN A MEDIUM-SIZED POLICE DEPARTMENT OUTSIDE
17:23:59 OF BOSTON WHERE I RETIRED AS THE DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF IN
17:23:59 2010.
17:24:02 I STARTED MY CAREER AS A PATROL OFFICER.
17:24:06 I MOVED INTO THE DETECTIVE DIVISION.
17:24:08 PROMOTED TO PATROL SERGEANT.
17:24:12 PROMOTED AGAIN TO DETECTIVE SERGEANT.
17:24:15 APPOINTED AS LIEUTENANT AND POLICE CHIEF WHERE I
17:24:16 RETIRED.
17:24:20 I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND I
17:24:24 TEACH CRIMINAL JUSTICE CLASSES AT HILLSBOROUGH
17:24:28 COMMUNITY COLLEGE YBOR CAMPUS ALTHOUGH CURRENTLY MY
17:24:29 CLASSES ARE ONLINE.
17:24:32 I APPLIED AND I HAVE A LOT TO OFFER.
17:24:36 DESPITE MY LAW ENFORCEMENT, I AM VERY OPEN-MINDED, FAIR
17:24:39 AND IMPARTIAL AND BELIEVE I CAN BRING SOME -- MAYBE
17:24:44 SPECIFIC KNOWLEDGE THAT MAY BENEFIT SOME DECISION
17:24:44 MAKING.
17:24:47 I HAVE -- YOU KNOW, I COME TO THIS PROCESS WITH NO
17:24:47 AGENDA.
17:24:49 AGAIN, NO BIAS.
17:24:52 AND VERY FAMILIAR WITH POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF
17:24:53 POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
17:24:59 VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE GARRITY DECISION AND WINEGARDEN
17:24:59 RIGHTS.
17:25:04 AND I FEEL LIKE I WILL BE A GOOD FIT FOR THIS POSITION.
17:25:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
17:25:10 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?
17:25:11 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:25:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
17:25:17 FOR THANK YOU FOR APPLYING.
17:25:22 DURING YOUR TENURE -- AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE UP
17:25:27 NORTH, IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR INCIDENT DEALING WITH
17:25:31 RACE, MAYBE A DISCIPLINE ACT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT
17:25:36 STICKS OUT IN YOUR MIND WHERE -- WHERE RACE WAS A LARGE
17:25:40 ISSUE FOR YOU AS A SENIOR OFFICER?
17:25:43 >> THAT I PERSONALLY DEALT WITH?
17:25:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
17:25:48 >> AS A DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF, I WAS IN CHARGE OF INTERNAL
17:25:50 INVESTIGATIONS AND THE INTERNAL ISSUES THAT
17:25:53 UNFORTUNATELY -- WITH A MEDIUM-SIZED POLICE DEPARTMENT
17:25:54 WAS RELATIVELY MINOR.
17:25:57 USE OF FORCE ISSUES THAT I INVESTIGATED.
17:26:02 IN FACT MOST CITIZEN COMPLAINTS ARE GROUNDED USUALLY IN
17:26:05 USE OF FORCE ISSUES.
17:26:09 AS FAR AS THEM BEING SPECIFIC RACE-RELATED, THEY WERE
17:26:10 NOT.
17:26:13 HOWEVER I WAS THE DESIGNATED CIVIL RIGHTS OFFICERS --
17:26:16 ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FIRST CIVIL RIGHTS OFFICERS
17:26:19 DESIGNATED FROM THE NORFOLK COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
17:26:19 OFFICE.
17:26:22 I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR INVESTIGATING ALL INCIDENTS OF
17:26:25 CIVIL RIGHTS, HATE CRIMES, AND WHAT NOT.
17:26:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT WAS THE MOST SERIOUS LEVEL OF
17:26:35 DISCIPLINE THAT YOU HAD TO GIVE OUT FOR USE OF FORCE?
17:26:37 >> WE TERMINATED OFFICERS.
17:26:41 NOT BEING -- NOT TO GET INTO PARTICULAR, BUT WE MAKE
17:26:44 RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE HIRING AUTHORITY WHICH FOLLOWED
17:26:47 OUR RECOMMENDATIONS OF TERMINATION.
17:26:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?
17:26:53 >> IT WAS THE ABSOLUTE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO.
17:26:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
17:26:58 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
17:26:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
17:27:02 THANK YOU FOR COMING TO INTERVIEW TODAY, SIR.
17:27:06 >> THANK YOU.
17:27:08 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY COUNCIL, THE NEXT PERSON
17:27:11 IS LEXI GILL.
17:27:15 I BELIEVE I SAW -- I HAD A NOTE THAT THAT PERSON WOULD.
17:27:17 THAT PERSON BUT I THINK THE PERSON IS APPEARING
17:27:18 VIRTUALLY.
17:27:19 >>CLERK: SHE IS.
17:27:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CLERK, WE HAVE HER VIRTUALLY?
17:27:24 >>CLERK: YES.
17:27:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE SHE IS.
17:27:28 >> GOOD EVENING, LEXI GILL.
17:27:32 AND I AM A THIRD-YEAR DOCTORATE STUDENT IN CRIMINOLOGY
17:27:36 AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
17:27:41 I HOLD A BACHELOR AND MASTER'S IN CRIMINOLOGY AND
17:27:44 INCLUDING POLICING AND CRIME.
17:27:51 MY DISSERTATION INVOLVING POLICE, LEGITIMACY AND THE
17:27:52 COMMUNITY.
17:27:54 I AM ORIGINALLY FROM KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI.
17:27:57 AND I WORKED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THERE.
17:28:01 AND I ALSO MOVED TO SEATTLE, WASHINGTON, AND I HAVE
17:28:06 WORKED WITH POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF
17:28:06 WASHINGTON AS WELL.
17:28:10 AND I HAVE A TON OF APPLIED RESEARCH.
17:28:13 I HAVE GONE THROUGH RESEARCH ETHICS TRAINING AND I WAS
17:28:16 PART OF THE TAMPA BAY POLICE REFORM THIS SUMMER.
17:28:21 A GRADUATE RESEARCH ASSISTANT UNDER DR. BRIANNA FOX, AND
17:28:23 WE ARE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH OUR FINDINGS AND PUTTING
17:28:26 TOGETHER A PUBLISHABLE REPORT.
17:28:31 SO LIKE I SAID, I HAVE HAD RESEARCH ETHICS TRAINING AND
17:28:34 I KNOW I CAN BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND I THINK THIS
17:28:38 WOULD BE SUCH A GREAT HONOR TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK TO
17:28:40 THE COMMUNITY IN THE FIELD I AM INVOLVED IN.
17:28:42 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
17:28:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
17:28:46 ANY COUNCILMEMBERS?
17:28:46 MR. MIRANDA.
17:28:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO KNOW YOU MENTION TWO
17:28:51 POLICE DEPARTMENTS KANSAS CITY AND ONE IN NORTHWEST.
17:28:54 CAN YOU TELL US WHAT POSITION YOU HAD -- WHAT TYPE OF
17:28:56 WORK YOU DID THERE?
17:28:57 >> YES.
17:28:59 SO I WORKED IN KANSAS CITY AS A GRADUATE RESEARCH
17:29:01 ASSISTANT.
17:29:04 IT WAS ON A DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FUNDED GRANT.
17:29:09 AND I HELPED GO THROUGH NONFATAL SHOOTING REVIEWS IN
17:29:10 KANSAS CITY AT THE TIME.
17:29:16 AND DETERMINED IF THEY WERE INDEED GANG-RELATED OR NOT.
17:29:19 AND THEN IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON, I WORKED ON
17:29:24 SEVERAL PROJECTS, NEIGHBORHOOD GRANTS WHERE I LOOKED AT
17:29:27 THE GUN VIOLENCE WITHIN THE AREA TO SEE WHO ALL WAS
17:29:31 INVOLVED IN THE GUN VIOLENCE TO PREVENT FUTURE
17:29:32 VICTIMIZATION.
17:29:35 ALSO, TO KIND OF STOP THE CRIME.
17:29:38 SO I WORKED WITH SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
17:29:42 I HAVE WORKED WITH TACOMA WASHINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT,
17:29:46 YAKIMA, WASHINGTON, POLICE DEPARTMENT, PIERCE COUNTY IN
17:29:47 WASHINGTON.
17:29:50 I HAVE ALSO WORKED WITH PASCO COUNTY ON A DEPARTMENT OF
17:29:54 JUSTICE GRANT, WHICH I AM CURRENTLY FUNDED THROUGH THE
17:29:58 UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
17:30:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ARE THESE VOLUNTARILY OR WERE YOU
17:30:02 AN EMPLOYEE?
17:30:05 >> I WAS NOT TECHNICALLY AN EMPLOYEE OF THE POLICE
17:30:06 DEPARTMENT.
17:30:11 I ALWAYS BEEN EMPLOYED THROUGH EITHER A RESEARCH -- A
17:30:15 RESEARCH BUSINESS OR THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY.
17:30:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
17:30:17 >> THANK YOU.
17:30:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:30:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
17:30:24 MISS GILL.
17:30:28 SO YOU ARE WORKING ON YOUR PH.D. AT THIS POINT?
17:30:29 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
17:30:31 I AM IN MY THIRD YEAR.
17:30:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO -- I HAVE BEEN IN ACADEMIA WITH
17:30:40 A MASTER'S THESIS AND, OF COURSE, I HAVE SAT HERE.
17:30:44 THE DIFFERENCE TO ME -- AND DON'T MEAN THIS WITH ANY
17:30:45 CRITICISM BECAUSE A QUESTION IS COMING, THE DIFFERENCE
17:30:50 TO ME IS IN ACADEMIA A LOT OF TIMES YOU ARE OBSERVING,
17:30:55 TAKING INFORMATION AND ANALYZING DATA, ETC.
17:31:00 HERE -- IN THIS SCENARIO, OR HOPEFULLY IN THE CRB
17:31:02 SCENARIO, YOU ARE ASKING QUESTIONS.
17:31:06 YOU ARE DELVING FURTHER THAN WHAT MIGHT BE
17:31:07 VOLUNTEERED TO YOU.
17:31:10 AND I AM JUST WONDERING HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT IN
17:31:15 TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT ROLE AND A COMFORT
17:31:18 LEVEL WITH THAT.
17:31:20 >> ABSOLUTELY GREAT QUESTION.
17:31:26 SO I -- FROM SOMEONE IN ACADEMIA, I FEEL IS VERY
17:31:29 IMPORTANT TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTION AND TO UN COVER THE
17:31:30 ANSWERS.
17:31:34 AND SO MY RESEARCH SPECIFICALLY IS ON APPLIED.
17:31:38 I KNOW HOW TO GET MY HANDS DIRTY AND WORK IN THE FIELD
17:31:41 AND NOT NECESSARILY BE AN OBSERVER.
17:31:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM RUFFLING
17:31:44 FEATHERS.
17:31:45 >> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
17:31:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EVEN IF IT IS IN A COMMUNITY THAT
17:31:50 YOU MIGHT WANT TO STAY IN.
17:31:51 >> ABSOLUTELY.
17:31:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
17:31:54 >> I WOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM.
17:31:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE.
17:32:00 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
17:32:03 >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. VIERA.
17:32:07 I SAW THE NAME DR. BRIANNA FOX, OBVIOUSLY A GOOD NAME
17:32:09 THAT WE ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE OF.
17:32:14 I WANTED TO ASK SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
17:32:17 ASKED, THE INCIDENT THAT WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE LAST
17:32:20 YEAR INCLUDING BLACK LIVES MATTERS MOVEMENT, THE MURDER
17:32:21 OF GEORGE FLOYD, ETC.
17:32:24 WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON THAT?
17:32:27 >> MY OPINION IS THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TOO STRENGTHEN
17:32:32 THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO HOLD
17:32:36 POLICE ACCOUNTABLE WHENEVER THEY MISSTEP.
17:32:39 SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE RESEARCH AND WE NEED TO
17:32:41 UNDERSTAND WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS COMING FROM AND ALSO
17:32:43 THE POLICE OFFICERS AT THE SAME TIME.
17:32:45 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
17:32:47 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
17:32:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
17:32:53 THANK YOU SO MUCH, MA'AM.
17:32:56 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: NEXT -- CITY COUNCIL, THE NEXT
17:32:59 APPLICANT IS BRITTANY LAKHANI, AND SHE IS APPEARING
17:33:01 VIRTUALLY AS WELL.
17:33:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
17:33:05 >> HI.
17:33:07 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
17:33:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU.
17:33:13 >> SO MY NAME IS BRITTANY LAKHANI AND I, FIRST, WOULD
17:33:19 LIKE TO TELL YOU GUYS THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO
17:33:19 DO THIS.
17:33:21 I HAVE BEEN A FLORIDA RESIDENT MY ENTIRE LIFE AND LIVED
17:33:24 IN TAMPA FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
17:33:25 CONTINUE IS MY HOME.
17:33:28 I LOVE THE CITY AND LIVING DOWNTOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF
17:33:28 THE CITY.
17:33:30 I WAS EVEN TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING GIRL.
17:33:33 AND THROUGH THAT, I WAS ABLE TO GET INVOLVED WITH A LOT
17:33:35 OF THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY
17:33:37 THAT WAY.
17:33:40 WHEN I LEFT THAT POSITION, I BECAME A MEMBER OF THE
17:33:43 JUNIOR LEAGUE OF TAMPA, WHERE I HAVE BEEN ON THE PUBLIC
17:33:46 POLICY COMMITTEE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS AND THAT HAS
17:33:50 BEEN A REWARDING EXPERIENCE BEING ABLE TO DISCUSS WITH
17:33:54 DIFFERENT LEGISLATORS AND REALLY HAVE AN IMPACT ON SOME
17:33:57 OF THE POLICY THAT COMES OUT OF TALLAHASSEE AND JUST
17:33:59 BEING INVOLVED IN HOW THE POLICY AND THE LEGISLATION
17:34:04 GETS MADE HAS REALLY GIVEN ME A NICE INSIGHT INTO ALL
17:34:04 OF THAT.
17:34:07 AND WITH THAT, I AM A SECOND-YEAR LAW STUDENT AT
17:34:11 STETSON UNIVERSITY COLLEGE OF LAW, AND BEING IN LAW
17:34:15 SCHOOL, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE DEVELOPED THE SKILLS TO VIEW
17:34:19 AN ISSUE AT MULTIPLE VIEWPOINTS AND REALLY ANALYZE
17:34:22 SITUATIONS WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTS AND FROM ALL
17:34:24 SIDES OF THE SITUATION.
17:34:28 I FEEL LIKE LAW SCHOOL HAS ALLOWED ME AN UNIQUE INSIGHT
17:34:31 OF THE CULTURAL CHALLENGES OUR COUNTRY HAS BEEN FACING
17:34:35 BY SPENDING TIME DISCUSSING ALL OF THESE CONTROVERSIAL
17:34:38 ISSUES WITH MY PROFESSIONALS AND OTHER STUDENTS ON
17:34:39 CAMPUS.
17:34:41 I ALSO FEEL LIKE IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET YOUNG
17:34:43 ADULTS INVOLVED IN LOCAL AFFAIRS.
17:34:47 AND I WOULD LIKE TO LEAD THIS MOVEMENT BY BEING ONE OF
17:34:50 THE YOUNG ADULTS GETTING INVOLVED AND BEING ABLE TO GO
17:34:55 BACK TO STETSON AND TELLING ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES THAT
17:34:57 THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU TO GET INVOLVED WITH
17:35:00 THE CITY AND OTHER REVIEW BOARDS AND CITY COUNCIL AND
17:35:05 LET THEM KNOW THAT THESE OPPORTUNITIES EXIST.
17:35:08 THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD AND THE TRANSPARENCY AND
17:35:12 OVERSIGHT THAT THEY PROVIDE I THINK REALLY WORKS TO
17:35:15 RESTORE PUBLIC FAITH AND TRUST IN OUR POLICE AND
17:35:17 COMMUNITY AND THE BOARD ALLOWS THE CITIZENS TO FEEL
17:35:21 COMFORTABLE THAT THEIR COMPLAINTS OF OFFICERS WILL BE
17:35:23 HANDLED WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
17:35:27 BY A PLACEMENT ON THIS BOARD, I WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE
17:35:29 THE PUBLIC'S UNDERSTANDING OF LAW ENFORCEMENT'S POLICY
17:35:30 AND PROCEDURES.
17:35:33 BECAUSE IF THE PUBLIC DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE POLICIES
17:35:36 AND PROCEDURES, THEY WILL HAVE HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING
17:35:37 HOW THEY WORK.
17:35:39 THEY WILL HAVE A HARD TIME TRUSTING THE POLICE OFFICERS
17:35:43 AND EVEN THE BOARD IF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE
17:35:46 INFORMATION GETS PRESENTED AND HOW THE SYSTEM REALLY
17:35:46 WORKS.
17:35:49 AND THEN BY WORKING WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD, I WOULD
17:35:52 LIKE TO BRING ABOUT MORE TRANSPARENCY TO THE PROCEDURES
17:35:56 THAT SURROUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND BE A PART OF
17:35:59 THE SOLUTION THAT BRINGS OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
17:36:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS BRITTANY.
17:36:04 ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
17:36:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
17:36:10 YOU SAID DISCUSSING THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF THE
17:36:10 POLICE DEPARTMENT.
17:36:17 DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE OFFICERS BILL OF RIGHTS?
17:36:19 >> I HAVE NOT READ IT.
17:36:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:36:28 >>LUIS VIERA: VIERA, IF I MAY.
17:36:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA AND MR. DINGFELDER.
17:36:33 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR APPLYING.
17:36:36 I WENT TO STETSON A WHILE AGO AND AS COUNCILMAN
17:36:40 DINGFELDER ALWAYS SAYS SHOUT OUT TO STETSON AND
17:36:40 WHATNOT.
17:36:44 WHY ADDITIONALLY WOULD YOU LIKE SERVE ON THIS BOARD.
17:36:48 IS THERE ANY -- ANYTHING THAT HAS OCCURRED MAYBE IN THE
17:36:51 NEWS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT MAY MOVE YOU ONE WAY OR
17:36:54 THE OTHER TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD, MA'AM?
17:36:58 >> I JUST THINK THAT THE CULTURAL CHANGES AND THE
17:37:04 CULTURAL -- THE CULTURAL ISSUES THAT OUR COUNTRY IS
17:37:05 FACING SO IMPORTANT.
17:37:08 AND WE REALLY NEED YOUNG PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED AND
17:37:10 LEAD THE MOVEMENT.
17:37:13 NOT JUST BY PROTESTING AND GETTING OUT ON THE STREETS
17:37:16 BUT ACTIVELY WORKING WITH COMMUNITY LEADERS AND, YOU
17:37:19 KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO
17:37:22 REALLY COME ABOUT A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.
17:37:25 WE DON'T WANT SOLUTIONS THAT ARE ONE-SIDED THAT WILL
17:37:27 ONLY WORK FOR ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE.
17:37:29 WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS THAT WILL WORK FOR THE
17:37:32 PEOPLE THAT ARE FEELING LIKE THEY CAN NOT TRUST THE
17:37:35 POLICE AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FEELING OPPRESSED BY
17:37:37 POLICE AND SOLUTIONS THAT WORK FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS
17:37:41 AND WORK IN THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE.
17:37:44 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM, AND GOOD
17:37:48 LUCK AT STETSON AND WHENEVER THAT BAR COMES UP.
17:37:49 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
17:37:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MISS LAKHANI.
17:37:55 ONE QUICK QUESTION AND THEN A BIGGER ONE.
17:37:58 I MISSED WHAT YOU SAID AFTER YOU WERE A LIGHTNING GIRL,
17:38:03 WHICH MEANS YOU ARE AN IMPRESSIVE ICE-SKATER, BUT AFTER
17:38:06 A LIGHTNING GIRL, YOU SAID DID YOU SOMETHING WITH
17:38:07 POLICY.
17:38:08 WHO WAS THAT WITH?
17:38:09 >> YES, SIR.
17:38:13 SO I AM ON THE JUNIOR LEAGUE OF TAMPA POLICY.
17:38:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.
17:38:19 AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, IN AN IDEAL WORLD WHEN YOU
17:38:24 FINISH NEXT YEAR AND YOU MAKE THE BEST SCORE IN THE
17:38:29 WHOLE STATE ON THE BAR EXAM, WHAT -- WHAT IS YOUR IDEAL
17:38:30 JOB?
17:38:31 >> YES, SIR.
17:38:34 SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET AND WORK FOR A GOVERNMENT
17:38:38 ORGANIZATION AND DO POLICY WRITING.
17:38:41 I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS SO THE
17:38:45 EPA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I HAVE ALSO IN LOOKING
17:38:48 AT WITH THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
17:38:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS LAKHANI.
17:38:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
17:38:58 YOU SAID SOMETHING THINK THAT TALK ABOUT A LOT, MISS
17:39:00 LAKHANI.
17:39:03 COUNCIL ALWAYS HEARS ME SAY CULTURE.
17:39:05 YOU MADE MENTION OF CULTURE.
17:39:08 ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
17:39:09 CULTURE.
17:39:13 THE COMMUNITY AND POLICE.
17:39:13 >> YES, SIR.
17:39:18 I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR -- THEIR
17:39:20 CULTURE THAT THEY FEEL IS IMPORTANT TO THEM.
17:39:21 I AM HALF PAKISTANI.
17:39:26 MY FATHER IMMIGRATED FROM PAKISTAN WITH ABSOLUTELY
17:39:27 NOTHING.
17:39:29 AND I WAS RAISED IN A HOUSEHOLD THAT REALLY
17:39:34 ACKNOWLEDGES, YOU KNOW, MY FATHER'S PAKISTANI HERITAGE
17:39:37 AND PART OF MY CULTURE AND MY MOTHER'S AMERICAN
17:39:38 HERITAGE.
17:39:40 AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MADE ME THE PERSON I AM
17:39:43 TODAY AND ALLOWED ME TO WORK IN DIFFERENT SITUATIONS
17:39:46 AND UNDERSTAND A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
17:39:49 AND WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE THAT ALL THROUGHOUT TAMPA BAY.
17:39:50 WE HAVE CUBANS.
17:39:53 PEOPLE FROM CUBAN DESCENT AND PEOPLE WHO ARE
17:39:53 AFRICAN-AMERICAN.
17:39:55 WE HAVE HISPANICS.
17:39:58 WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM ALL DIFFERENT CULTURES, AND THE WAY
17:40:01 THEY ARE INTERACTING WITH THE POLICE RIGHT NOW AS WE
17:40:03 HAVE SEEN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH THE GEORGE
17:40:07 FLOYD INCIDENT AND BLACK LIVES MATTERS.
17:40:13 A CULTURAL RIFT AND SOME CULTURES OF DIFFERENT DESCENT,
17:40:16 SKIN COLOR AND WAYS OF LIFE DO NOT FEEL LIKE THEY ARE
17:40:20 RECOGNIZED THE SAME WAY OR ACKNOWLEDGED THE SAME WAY BY
17:40:20 THE POLICE OFFICERS.
17:40:23 AND THAT IS A PROBLEM THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE.
17:40:26 A CULTURE THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS HAVE AND A CULTURE
17:40:29 THAT THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE AND WE NEED FIND A
17:40:31 WAY TO BRIDGE THAT GAP WHERE EVERYBODY CAN FEEL
17:40:33 INCLUDED AND WORK TOGETHER.
17:40:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
17:40:36 ANYONE ELSE, GENTLEMEN?
17:40:39 THANK YOU FOR INTERVIEWING, MISS BRITTANY.
17:40:40 >> THANK YOU.
17:40:43 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: NEXT COUNCILMEMBERS, THE NEXT
17:40:45 APPLICANT IS LEE LOWRY.
17:40:48 THIS INDIVIDUAL WAS NOT ABLE TO APPEAR BUT PROVIDED A
17:40:51 LETTER THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE SUBMITTED TO CITY
17:40:54 COUNCIL.
17:40:59 THE NEXT APPLICANT IS KATHLEEN McCAREY AND SHE IS
17:41:03 APPEARING VIRTUALLY.
17:41:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE HER.
17:41:06 >> HI THERE.
17:41:07 GUDES THERE SHE IS.
17:41:09 >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
17:41:14 MY NAME IS KATIE McCAREY, AND I LIVED IN TAMPA THE LAST
17:41:14 22 YEARS.
17:41:20 I WORKED FULL-TIME AT HEALTH CARE WHERE I AM VICE
17:41:23 PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS, AND I SPECIALIZE IN INITIATIVES
17:41:28 AS A SIX SIGMA BLACK BELT.
17:41:32 MASTER'S DEGREE IN BUSINESS AND A MASTER'S DEGREE IN
17:41:40 PUBLIC HEALTH AND MASTER GUARDIAN AD LITEM AND ADVOCATE
17:41:44 FOR ABUSED AND NEGLECTED CHILDREN AND OVERSEE THE
17:41:47 HOSPITAL SWAT TEAM FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL.
17:41:50 YOU SEE ALL THE HOSPITAL BABIES IN THE HOSPITALS THAT
17:41:52 HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THEIR HOMES AND SHELTERED FROM
17:41:56 THEIR PARENTS DUE TO AN ABUSIVE ACT.
17:41:59 I AM SUPER PASSIONATE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
17:42:02 THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD WAS FORMED TO ENHANCE THE
17:42:04 TRUST BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY.
17:42:08 AND I BELIEVE I WILL BE A PERFECT CANDIDATE TO SERVE ON
17:42:11 THE BOARD AND VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND
17:42:12 CARE ABOUT THE ISSUES.
17:42:16 THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION.
17:42:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
17:42:19 ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
17:42:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
17:42:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:42:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO A CRB MEETING.
17:42:32 >> I WATCHED A COUPLE LAST YEAR.
17:42:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAVEN'T WATCHED ANY PRESENTLY?
17:42:34 OKAY.
17:42:36 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
17:42:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
17:42:42 THANK YOU, MISS MCCAREY.
17:42:44 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: NEXT, COUNCILMEMBERS, THE NEXT
17:42:47 APPLICANT WAS EDWARD MILTON.
17:42:52 THIS APPLICANT DID NOT RESPOND TO THE REQUEST TO APPEAR
17:42:56 IN PERSON OR TO APPEAR VIRTUALLY, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY
17:43:00 WRITTEN SUMMARY TO SUPPORT THE APPLICATION.
17:43:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL MOVE ON THEN.
17:43:06 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: NEXT APPLICANT IS CARLOS
17:43:12 TIRADO AND THIS APPLICANT IS APPEARING VIRTUALLY.
17:43:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
17:43:17 >>LUIS VIERA: WE CAN'T HEAR HIM.
17:43:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, SIR.
17:43:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU HELP HIM?
17:43:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU ARE STILL MUTED.
17:43:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.
17:43:55 >> MR. TIRADO.
17:43:59 YOU ARE UNMUTED ON YOUR END SO YOU MAY WANT TO UNMUTE
17:44:09 YOUR PERSONAL DEVICE.
17:44:12 >> SOMETIMES -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE IN WINDOWS OR
17:44:18 MAC, SOMETIMES THE BOTTOM -- MY KIDS SOMETIMES PLAY
17:44:19 WITH MINE.
17:44:23 IT COULD THAT BE YOUR EAR POD IS SELECTED.
17:44:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CARLSON.
17:44:34 CAN WE GET HIM BACK ON THE SCREEN?
17:44:36 DID HE GO OUT, MADAM CLERK?
17:44:43 >>CLERK: HE IS STILL ON.
17:44:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
17:44:54 >> GOOD EVENING.
17:44:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE GOT YOU.
17:45:01 >> CAN I BE HEARD NOW?
17:45:08 >> YES, SIR.
17:45:10 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: YOU CAN PROCEED WITH YOUR
17:45:15 PRESENTATION.
17:45:18 MR. TERATO?
17:45:19 >> GOOD EVENING.
17:45:22 CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME NOW.
17:45:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU.
17:45:27 >> MY APOLOGIES.
17:45:28 I AM -- CAN I START.
17:45:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN START, SIR.
17:45:32 >> SORRY FOR THE INCONVENIENCE.
17:45:35 I AM CARLOS TIRADO.
17:45:40 I HAVE A BACKGROUND IN INSURANCE AND BUSINESS
17:45:42 MANAGEMENT FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS.
17:45:45 THAT'S BEEN WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING.
17:45:48 I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN BUSINESS AND MANAGEMENT
17:45:49 ALSO.
17:45:54 I NEVER HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY GOVERNMENT AGENCY OR
17:45:58 POLITICAL ORGANIZATION.
17:46:01 I HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE IN TAMPA -- IN FLORIDA, IN
17:46:02 TAMPA, FOR SIX YEARS.
17:46:05 MORE THAN SIX YEARS.
17:46:06 WITH MY WIFE AND MY SON.
17:46:11 AND I WANT -- I WANT TO BE PART OF THIS COMMITTEE
17:46:13 BECAUSE I WANT TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, TO TAMPA
17:46:16 AND THE COMMUNITY THAT I -- WHERE I LIVE TOO.
17:46:21 I WANTED TO BE PART OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THE
17:46:23 RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY
17:46:25 AND THE COMMUNITY.
17:46:28 I WANT TO USE MY EXPERIENCE IN MULTICULTURAL
17:46:33 ENVIRONMENTS AND MANAGEMENT TO PROVIDE POSSIBLY --
17:46:37 POSSIBLY PROVIDE A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW IN THE
17:46:38 ISSUES AT HAND.
17:46:42 I BELIEVE IN TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, FAIRNESS,
17:46:44 OBJECTIVITY AND RESPECT.
17:46:51 AND I WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO GIVE ME CONSIDERATION.
17:46:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
17:46:55 ANY MEMBERS -- ANY QUESTIONS?
17:46:57 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:47:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO HOW DID YOU HEAR THIS ABOUT
17:47:03 PARTICULAR BOARD?
17:47:08 DID THIS BOARD JUMP OUT AT YOU, SOMETHING UNUSUAL THAT
17:47:10 APPEALED TO YOU?
17:47:14 WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS BOARD?
17:47:16 >> KIND OF A FUNNY STORY.
17:47:19 I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO MY WIFE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF
17:47:22 MONTHS THAT I WAS LOOKING TO -- FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO
17:47:24 VOLUNTEER IN THE COMMUNITY.
17:47:28 AND ON FACEBOOK, THERE WAS A POST FROM THE CITY OF
17:47:30 TAMPA WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY.
17:47:33 SO IT JUMPED RIGHT OUT AT ME.
17:47:36 AND I DECIDED TO APPLY.
17:47:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
17:47:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
17:47:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
17:47:41 WE APPRECIATE IT.
17:47:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
17:47:45 THANK YOU, MR. TIRADO.
17:47:47 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
17:47:49 THE LAST APPLICANT IS CARLOS VALDEZ.
17:47:52 THAT PERSON WAS NOT ABLE TO APPEAR BUT DID PROVIDE A
17:47:58 LETTER OF SUPPORT TO SUMMARIZE THEIR INFORMATION.
17:48:00 AND THIS INFORMATION WITH THAT LETTER IS ALSO PROVIDED
17:48:02 BY THE CLERK.
17:48:06 AND THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THE APPLICANTS FOR CITY
17:48:10 COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
17:48:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, WHAT I HAVE VIEWED ON OUR
17:48:17 --
17:48:20 >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE WILL VOTE OR
17:48:25 NOT, BUT I WANT TO SAY VERY IMPRESSIVE PEOPLE AND WE
17:48:25 ONLY HAVE ONE SLOT.
17:48:30 I HOPE WITH ALL THE BACKGROUNDS THAT THEY HAVE, I HOPE
17:48:34 THEY CONSIDER APPLYING IT AGAIN IF THEY DON'T MAKE
17:48:37 TONIGHT OR WHEN WE VOTE.
17:48:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT I SEE, THREE LETTERS SUBMITTED,
17:48:44 ONE RESPONSE FROM ONE APPLICANT AND EVERYBODY WAS
17:48:45 VIRTUALLY AND IN PERSON.
17:48:49 I DON'T KNOW IF THERE STILL NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSION OR
17:48:52 IF MR. MIRANDA NEEDS MORE TIME AND MR. DINGFELDER NEEDS
17:48:55 MORE TIME IN REFERENCE OF WHAT THEY HEARD AND VIEWED
17:48:55 THIS EVENING.
17:48:58 SO I WILL GIVE IT A MINUTE TO GO TO EACH PERSON WITH
17:49:02 ANY DISCUSSION AND THEN WE WILL BRING IT IN FOR A
17:49:06 LANDING IF WE ARE VOTING TONIGHT OR PICK A DATE TO VOTE
17:49:07 ON THESE CANDIDATES.
17:49:09 mR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:49:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN.
17:49:12 I AM PREPARED TO VOTE TONIGHT.
17:49:17 I HAVE SEEN THE LETTERS OF THOSE WHO WILL NOT BE ABLE
17:49:20 TO ATTEND AND WE HEARD THE APPLICANTS AND ABLE TO ASK
17:49:21 QUESTIONS.
17:49:26 SO I AM READY TO GO TONIGHT IF IT IS SO THE PLEASURE OF
17:49:26 THE BOARD.
17:49:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
17:49:30 >>BILL CARLSON: I AM READY TO VOTE TONIGHT.
17:49:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:49:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM READY TO MAKE A VOTE TONIGHT,
17:49:35 YES, SIR.
17:49:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:49:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
17:49:42 I MOVE FOR 45-DAY CONTINUANCE -- I AM JOKING.
17:49:43 I AM READY TO VOTE.
17:49:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:49:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL COMPLETELY DEFER TO MR.
17:49:53 MIRANDA, BECAUSE MR. MIRANDA SEEMED TO INDICATE HE
17:49:56 LIKED A LITTLE MORE TIME AND IF HE WOULD LIKE TIME --
17:49:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT THAT I LIKE TO HAVE TIME, BUT I
17:50:02 DON'T HAVE A COMPLETE RESUME WOULD BE -- WE TALK OF
17:50:06 DISCRIMINATING -- CAN'T BE -- ON A BOARD I AM LOOKING
17:50:11 TO NOT DISCRIMINATE AND I DON'T HAVE THE -- OF THE ONES
17:50:16 I HAVE HAD ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR -- ONLY FOUR OF 11
17:50:19 THAT I JUST HAVE THREE SHEETS FOR.
17:50:20 AND OTHERS --
17:50:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WILL YOU SAY YOU ARE THREE SHEETS
17:50:23 TO THE WIND.
17:50:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOUR SHEETS TO THE WIND.
17:50:28 BEING HERE WITH YOU, SIR, FIVE SHEETS TO THE WIND AND I
17:50:29 AM ALL RIGHT WITH YOU.
17:50:30 I GET ALONG WITH YOU.
17:50:35 IT WOULD BE AN UNJUST FOR ME TO CAST A VOTE WITHOUT
17:50:36 INFORMATION.
17:50:37 IF YOU ALL WANT TO VOTE.
17:50:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LOOK FOR THAT ALTERNATE STATE.
17:50:43 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
17:50:44 I WANT TO CLARIFY.
17:50:48 ONLY TWO FORMS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO COMPLETE, THE
17:50:51 VOLUNTARY POSITION FORM AND THE ADDENDUM.
17:50:54 ONLY TWO FORMS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO COMPLETE AND
17:50:57 THAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO THE CLERK TO THE CITY
17:50:57 COUNCIL MEMBERS.
17:51:02 SOME APPLICANTS PROVIDED A COVER LETTER, BUT THE ONLY
17:51:06 THING THAT THEY HAD TO COMPLETE WAS A -- TO COMPLETE
17:51:11 THE FORM WAS THE VOLUNTARY POSITION FORM AND THE
17:51:12 ADDENDUM THAT SHOULD ALSO BE INCLUDED.
17:51:16 THOSE ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED.
17:51:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FRONT AND BACK AND THERE IS WHERE
17:51:20 WE ARE AT.
17:51:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S LOOK FOR ANOTHER DATE.
17:51:27 DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER DATE?
17:51:29 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: IF THE COUNCILMEMBERS WOULD
17:51:33 LIKE TO DEFER YOUR VOTE, YOU CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT, BUT
17:51:36 THE NEXT AVAILABLE TIME YOU CAN DECIDE YOUR VOTE OR
17:51:40 ANNOUNCE YOUR VOTE IS AT THE SEPTEMBER 14 EVENING
17:51:44 MEETING.
17:51:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WOULD THAT BE -- WHEN IS THE 14TH?
17:51:52 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: ON MONDAY.
17:51:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO OFFENSE BUT YOU HEARD FROM FOUR
17:51:57 DIFFERENT COUNCILMEN.
17:52:01 SHOULD WE MAKE MOTION AND MAKE SURE THAT IS DECIDED ON.
17:52:05 I AM EASY TO GO EITHER WAY BUT OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE WHO
17:52:09 SAID THEY WOULD LIKE TO VOTE.
17:52:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: POINT OF ORDER.
17:52:15 MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:52:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CLARIFY THE DATE OF THE 13TH --
17:52:20 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THE 14TH.
17:52:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE 14TH IS A TUESDAY, IS IT NOT?
17:52:32 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: 13TH, I APOLOGIZE.
17:52:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SPECIAL CALL AND USUALLY RESERVED
17:52:37 ONLY FOR THE BUDGET AND UNLESS WE HEAR FROM THE
17:52:40 ADMINISTRATION, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING CONSIDERING IT
17:52:43 INVOLVES STATE LAW AND A VERY TIGHT SCRIPT, THAT IS NOT
17:52:46 SOMETHING THAT I WOULD NOT WANT TO -- THAT IS SOMETHING
17:52:50 I WOULD NOT WANT TO DO UNLESS THE ADMINISTRATION IS
17:52:53 AWARE OF IT AND AGREES TO THAT.
17:52:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHY?
17:52:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY.
17:52:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SET IT FOR 4:00 IN THE AFTERNOON ON
17:53:01 THAT DAY.
17:53:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SIMPLE VOTE AND I DON'T THINK IT WILL
17:53:10 INTERFERE WITH A BUDGET.
17:53:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A SEPARATELY NOTICED AND STATUTORILY
17:53:19 APPROVED -- FOR A BUDGET AND TO ADD SOMETHING TO THE
17:53:21 AGENDA HAS NOT BEEN DONE UP TO THIS POINT.
17:53:24 I SITTING HERE WILL NOT RECOMMEND IT UNLESS SOMEBODY
17:53:27 FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SAYS
17:53:31 THAT IS A PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE THING TO DO IS I WOULD
17:53:32 SAY NO.
17:53:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOLD ON A SECOND.
17:53:39 MR. SHELBY, IF -- IF WE DECIDE TO DO THAT, AND DID IT
17:53:42 AFTER THE BUDGET WAS HEARD, WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE
17:53:45 IN THAT LIGHT, SIR?
17:53:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION IF YOU DO IT AT ALL YOU
17:53:50 DO IT AS A SEPARATE SPECIAL CALL MEETING AND YOU DON'T
17:53:54 DO IT FALLING ANYTHING YOU DO IT EARLIER THEN OR DO YOU
17:53:55 IT THE FOLLOWING DAY.
17:53:58 AND YOU CAN DO IT FIRST -- IF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WILL
17:54:01 AVAILABLE DO IT FIRST THING IN THE MORNING AND GET IT
17:54:04 OUT OF THE WAY OR WHATEVER IS BEST FOR COUNCIL.
17:54:08 BUT I ASK COUNCIL THAT YOU DO NOT CONFLATE THIS WITH
17:54:10 THE BUDGET PROCESS.
17:54:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, AS A CHAIRMAN.
17:54:14 I WILL RESPECT YOUR OPINION AND FOLLOW YOUR GUIDANCE IF
17:54:16 THAT IS THE CASE, SIR.
17:54:17 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:54:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WE CAN FOLLOW MR. SHELBY'S
17:54:25 OPINION AND MOVE FORWARD ON MONDAY ANYWAY.
17:54:28 DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY, MARTIN, HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED
17:54:33 MEETING BEFORE THE 5:00 BUDGET MEETING?
17:54:36 AND IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN MY MOTION WOULD BE
17:54:41 EXACTLY THAT, THAT WE -- THAT 4:45 -- THE VOTE IS GOING
17:54:44 TO TAKE FIVE SECONDS.
17:54:50 AT 4:45 OR 4:30, THAT WE -- THAT WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE --
17:54:51 THAT WE HAVE THIS VOTE.
17:54:54 >> YOU CAN DO THAT, THE RISK FOR THAT IS THE NOTICE FOR
17:54:57 THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING WILL NOT GO OUT UNTIL SOME
17:54:58 TIME TOMORROW.
17:55:05 AND FRANKLY, THE NEXT MEETING THEN -- IT IS A FOLLOWING
17:55:06 MONDAY.
17:55:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE FOLLOWING MONDAY?
17:55:11 WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
17:55:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE 13 IS A WEEK FROM -- THIS MONDAY.
17:55:19 SO A NOTICE NORMALLY REQUIRES NO LESS THAN -- NO LESS
17:55:23 THAN 24 HOURS, 48 HOURS IS ACCEPTABLE, 72 HOURS IS
17:55:24 IDEAL.
17:55:26 I SUSPECT YOU ARE -- YOU ARE CUTTING IT CLOSE IN TERMS
17:55:29 OF NOTICE HOW QUICK WE CAN GET THAT NOTICE OUT AND
17:55:33 POSTED FOR A MONDAY NIGHT, WHAT 4:00 MEETING OR 4:30
17:55:33 MEETING.
17:55:36 IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SUGGEST SOMETHING IN.
17:55:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
17:55:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK --
17:55:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S FINE.
17:55:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF WE DO IT, I WILL SAY 4:00.
17:55:47 >> I WILL AGREE MR. CHAIRMAN BASED ON.
17:55:49 YOU HAVE 11 CANDIDATES AND KNIFE ARE GOING TO BE
17:55:53 RECOMMENDED, AND YOU MAY HAVE 10 VOTES TO GET THE -- TO
17:55:56 GET THE FOUR VOTES FOR FIVE INDIVIDUALS.
17:56:01 >> AND THEN, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SOME COUNCILMEMBERS DON'T
17:56:03 HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION TO READ, AND YOU WANT TO BE
17:56:06 FAIR TO ALL THE CANDIDATES AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THEIR
17:56:09 INFORMATION.
17:56:14 I THINK THAT -- I AM LEANING MORE, GENTLEMEN, TO GIVE
17:56:18 THE 24-HOUR NOTICE, MR. SHELBY AND THEN COME BACK AT
17:56:22 MONDAY AT 4:00 AND VOTE -- AND GIVE THE CITIZENS THOSE
17:56:26 WHO APPLIED KNOW THAT WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AND VETTED THE
17:56:28 CANDIDATES AND THE CITIZENS KNOW WE DID THE RIGHT
17:56:30 THING.
17:56:32 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I, MR. CHAIR?
17:56:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
17:56:36 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A QUESTION AND THIS MAY BE
17:56:37 UNPOPULAR.
17:56:39 A COUPLE OF FOLKS WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT.
17:56:42 NOT THE INDIVIDUAL WHO DIDN'T RESPOND BECAUSE OF A
17:56:42 CONFLICT.
17:56:44 WOULD COUNCIL WANT TO GIVE THESE INDIVIDUALS TWO
17:56:50 MINUTES TO PLEAD THEIR CASE ON MONDAY?
17:56:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
17:56:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PROBABLY WANT TO START A LITTLE
17:56:59 EARLIER.
17:57:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE THING THAT I WILL ASK THE COUNCIL
17:57:08 NOT TO DO INTERFERE WITH THE START OF THE 5:00 BUDGET
17:57:09 HEARING.
17:57:11 5:01.
17:57:13 >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE.
17:57:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE WE COMFORT FUMBLE WE DID 3:00.
17:57:20 MADAM DEPUTY CLERK IS SAYING 3:00.
17:57:23 EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE MONDAY AT 3:00?
17:57:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I ALREADY HAVE THREE APPOINTMENTS THAT
17:57:31 I HAVE MEETING CITY HALL STARTING AT 1:30.
17:57:33 GOING ON UNTIL 2:30.
17:57:34 THEN 3:00.
17:57:47 AND THEN -- I CAN CHANGE MY 4:00.
17:57:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO 3:30?
17:57:53 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
17:57:56 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK IF WE BEGIN 4:00 LETTING TWO
17:58:01 PEOPLE SPEAK TWO, THREE MINUTES AND -- WE SHOULD BE
17:58:04 DONE 30 MINUTES.
17:58:07 I THINK 30 MINUTES IS FINE.
17:58:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ONLY HAVE A FEW AND GIVE THOSE WHO
17:58:13 DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
17:58:17 I BELIEVE WE CAN GET A VOTE IN BEFORE THE 5 -- 5:01 OR
17:58:19 5:00.
17:58:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 5:01.
17:58:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BEFORE THE 5:01 SPECIAL CALL FOR THE
17:58:27 BUDGET.
17:58:31 ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMAN?
17:58:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, WE ARE TAKING A LOT OF
17:58:34 TIME.
17:58:39 I WILL SECOND MR. DINGFELDER FOR 5:00 --
17:58:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MARTY SAID WE CAN'T DO 5.
17:58:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: 4:00.
17:58:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER MADE THE MOTION 4:00
17:58:48 SPECIAL CALLED FOR THE INTERVIEWS AND MR. CITRO
17:58:50 SECONDED.
17:58:52 ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED.
17:58:52 MOTION CARRIES.
17:58:56 ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON.
17:58:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT DID WE DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO
17:59:00 TRY TO INTERVIEW.
17:59:03 ADVISE THE CLERK OF THAT.
17:59:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY NEED TO BE ON TIME AND READY TO
17:59:10 GO AND IF THEY CAN'T MAKE IT, WE WILL GET AND MOVE THEM
17:59:12 OUT VERY QUICKLY.
17:59:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: VERY NICE OF YOU, MR. VIERA.
17:59:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS OUR ATTORNEY STILL THERE?
17:59:20 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: YES, I AM THERE.
17:59:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT, MA'AM?
17:59:26 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: YES, I WILL BE AVAILABLE.
17:59:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAKE SURE ALL THE COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE
17:59:32 ALL THE INFORMATION IN THEIR BOXES SO THEY WILL BE
17:59:34 READY TO GO.
17:59:35 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT
17:59:36 PERSONALLY.
17:59:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 2.
17:59:46 >> GOOD EVENING MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL,
17:59:52 SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, ASSISTANT SENIOR ATTORNEY.
17:59:57 ITEM NUMBER 2 IS A REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION OF A
18:00:01 SPECIAL MAGISTRATE PURSUANT TO 70.51.
18:00:05 WE COMMONLY REFER TO AS THE PHLUEGER STATUTE.
18:00:12 THIS A CASE THAT WENT BEFORE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
18:00:14 IN RECENT PAST, YOU HAVE SEEN THIS COME BEFORE NEW THE
18:00:19 FORM OF A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WHEN WE REACH A MEDIATED
18:00:21 SETTLEMENT.
18:00:24 THIS CASE, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO REACH A MEDIATED
18:00:26 AND HAD A HEARING BEFORE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, AND
18:00:29 FOLLOWING THAT HEARING, THE MAGISTRATE FOUND AS
18:00:32 DETAILED IN HIS REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY
18:00:35 COUNCIL'S DENIAL OF THE SUBJECT REZONING WAS NOT
18:00:39 UNREASONABLE AND DID NOT UNFAIRLY BURDEN THE PROPERTY
18:00:42 AND RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL'S DECISION TO
18:00:45 DENY REMAIN UNDISTURBED.
18:00:47 BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A RELATED RESOLUTION ASKING
18:00:51 COUNCIL TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE SPECIAL
18:00:55 MAGISTRATE IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE STATUTORY
18:00:59 REQUIREMENTS AND CLOSE OUT THIS MATTER.
18:01:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
18:01:03 WE HAVE A RESOLUTION OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CLERK'S
18:01:07 OFFICE AND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
18:01:09 MOTION TO MOVE, MR. CARLSON?
18:01:11 >>BILL CARLSON: YES --
18:01:11 [INAUDIBLE]
18:01:14 -- DO I NEED TO READ IT?
18:01:17 WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR THIS?
18:01:18 OKAY.
18:01:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE WE ALLOWING TO SPEAK ON THIS,
18:01:24 MR. SHELBY?
18:01:27 OR MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ.
18:01:30 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YES, SIR.
18:01:32 >> THIS WOMAN IS REGISTERED FOR OPPOSITION.
18:01:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO?
18:01:36 >>CLERK: YES.
18:01:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
18:01:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION IS YOU HEAR THEM.
18:01:48 GUDES OKAY, WE WILL HEAR THEM.
18:01:49 >> THIS IS PAMELA --
18:01:49 [INAUDIBLE]
18:01:51 -- CAN YOU HEAR ME?
18:01:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE THEY ON VIDEO?
18:02:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU NEED YOUR CAMERA ON, MA'AM.
18:02:01 >> THERE IT IS.
18:02:07 PAMELA JO HADLEY AND I REPRESENT FRANK GAY.
18:02:09 THE PROPERTY OWNER.
18:02:11 I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS WOULD BE A CONSENT ITEM.
18:02:14 MR. GAY IS IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING.
18:02:18 AND HE URGES COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
18:02:21 RECOMMENDATION THAT THE DENIAL OF THE REZONING REMAIN
18:02:23 UNDISTURBED.
18:02:24 THAT'S ALL.
18:02:24 THANK YOU.
18:02:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOUR CLIENT WAS IN OPPOSITION TO
18:02:30 THE ZONING?
18:02:30 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
18:02:37 SO HE WOULD SUPPORT A MOTION TO LET THE -- ALLOW THE
18:02:39 REZONING REMAIN EFFECT.
18:02:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
18:02:41 THANK YOU.
18:02:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER QUESTION, MR. CHAIR?
18:02:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
18:02:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, I DON'T MEAN
18:02:55 TO PUT YOU IN A POSITION BUT IS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
18:02:57 HAVE A RECOMMENDATION IN LIGHT OF THE SPECIAL
18:02:59 MAGISTRATE'S SUGGESTION OR RECOMMENDATION?
18:03:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. DINGFELDER.
18:03:04 SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
18:03:08 THE STATUTE REQUIRES COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION ON THE
18:03:11 SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION BY EITHER ACCEPTING
18:03:15 THE RECOMMENDATION, MODIFYING IT OR REJECTING IT.
18:03:17 THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, GIVEN THAT THE
18:03:20 MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION WAS TO NOT TO DISTURB YOUR
18:03:25 PRIOR DECISION IS TO ACCEPT THAT RECOMMENDATION.
18:03:28 IN OTHER WORDS, THE DENIALS OF THE REZONING WOULD
18:03:29 REMAIN.
18:03:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
18:03:34 BUT DOES THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT -- IS THE LEGAL
18:03:37 DEPARTMENT CHIMING IN ON THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER?
18:03:39 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: NO, SIR, WE ARE NOT.
18:03:40 WE ARE PRESENTING THE RECOMMENDATION FOR YOUR
18:03:41 CONSIDERATION.
18:03:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
18:03:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE WELCOME.
18:03:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
18:03:47 >>CLERK: THAT WAS IT.
18:03:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO WE NEED TO MOVE TO CLOSE OR
18:03:50 ANYTHING?
18:03:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
18:03:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
18:03:58 >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL MOVE.
18:04:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
18:04:04 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
18:04:06 YES.
18:04:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
18:04:09 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
18:04:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
18:04:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
18:04:15 >>CLERK: DINGFELDER?
18:04:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION TO ACCEPT
18:04:20 THE MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION AND I VOTE YES.
18:04:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
18:04:24 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
18:04:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
18:04:28 SOMEBODY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, ITEMS 3-10.
18:04:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO MOVED.
18:04:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
18:04:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR?
18:04:35 ANY OPPOSED.
18:04:37 WE ARE NOW OPEN, GENTLEMEN.
18:04:39 ITEM NUMBER 3.
18:04:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
18:04:45 SORRY, MR. CARLSON IS LEAVING BUT I WANT TO REMIND
18:04:48 COUNCIL IF THERE THIS HAS BEEN ANY EX-PARTE
18:04:52 COMMUNICATION OR ANY SITE VISITS THAT YOU DISCLOSE
18:04:53 THEM DURING THE COURSE.
18:04:55 HEARINGS OR AT THE START OF THE HEARING AND PRIOR TO
18:04:57 YOUR VOTE.
18:05:00 THANK YOU.
18:05:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIR.
18:05:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
18:05:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHELBY, IN OPENING MY E-MAILS
18:05:12 ABOUT AN HOUR AGO, I SAW A WHOLE SLING OF E-MAILS THAT
18:05:15 SAID SOMETHING -- I DIDN'T EVEN OPEN THEM AND I DIDN'T
18:05:17 READ THEM.
18:05:19 THAT IS NOT TONIGHT?
18:05:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION -- MY SUGGESTION WOULD
18:05:24 BE, COUNCIL, AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO MY
18:05:25 ATTENTION.
18:05:28 YOU DID NOT READ THEM AND WOULD YOU NOT KNOW --
18:05:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SOUGHT HEADING AND THE HEADING
18:05:33 SAID SOMETHING ABOUT BEACH PARK, BUT APPARENTLY MR.
18:05:37 MANISCALCO IS INDICATING TO ME AND MR. CITRO INDICATE
18:05:39 THAT IS NOT FONT.
18:05:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION WILL BE GENERALLY
18:05:46 SPEAKING PLEASE DO NOT OPEN OR READ ANY E-MAILS THAT
18:05:49 YOU RECEIVE OR COMMUNICATION US THAT RECEIVE OUTSIDE OF
18:05:53 THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT -- THAT WOULD HAVE TO THEN BE
18:05:57 DISCLOSED AND MADE AVAILABLE TO A PETITIONER OR
18:06:00 APPLICANT TO BE THE CAUSE OF A CONTINUANCE.
18:06:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UNLESS THEY GET IN THE BOX.
18:06:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE THING IS THEY -- THEY REALLY --
18:06:09 AN APPLICANT UNDER THE LAW NEEDS TO KNOW EX-PARTE
18:06:12 COMMUNICATIONS BEFORE THEY GO INTO A HEARING BECAUSE
18:06:16 THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO REBUT IT BEFORE YOUR VOTE.
18:06:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS IF -- IF
18:06:24 ONCE THEY ARE IN THE QUASI-JUDICIAL BOX THAT WE CALL
18:06:24 IT.
18:06:27 >> AND THE DEADLINE FOR THE QUASI-JUDICIAL BOX HAS
18:06:32 PASSED PERHAPS 24 HOURS AGO OR LONGER.
18:06:33 PERHAPS 48 HOURS AGO.
18:06:36 SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
18:06:40 THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT ISSUE.
18:06:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 3.
18:06:51 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: THANK YOU, ZANE HUSSEIN.
18:06:54 MAY I BE SWORN IN WITH MY STAFF.
18:06:58 >> DO YOU WEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH
18:07:02 AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
18:07:03 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
18:07:05 FIRST THING, ONE HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.
18:07:11 ITEM NUMBER 6 ON THE AGENDA AT 18600 AND 18700
18:07:15 HIGHWOODS PRESERVE PARKWAY.
18:07:19 THEY ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO 11/18.
18:07:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I?
18:07:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:07:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAVE YOU LOOKED AT WHAT IS AVAILABLE
18:07:31 IN THE 18TH OF NOVEMBER OF SLOTTED CONTINUANCE.
18:07:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CLERK, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT
18:07:39 FOR THE 18TH?
18:07:47 >>RYAN MANASSE: 12 CASES.
18:07:49 TWO CONTINUED AND TEN REZONINGS.
18:07:52 SO THIS WOULD BE A THIRD CONTINUED.
18:07:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TOTAL OF 13, MR. CHAIRMAN.
18:08:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ISN'T OUR LIMIT 11?
18:08:05 >> 10 WITH THREE CONTINUED, SIR.
18:08:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT IS ANOTHER DATE MR. MANASSE
18:08:12 BESIDE THE 18TH?
18:08:16 >>RYAN MANASSE: 12/9 TOTAL OF TEN CASES, NINE
18:08:21 REZONINGS AND ONE CPA, SO A TOTAL OF TEN.
18:08:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, ANY OBJECTIONS OF 12/9.
18:08:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THE APPLICANT AVAILABLE?
18:08:30 >>CLERK: YES, HE IS.
18:08:31 HE IS REGISTERED.
18:08:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SUGGEST WE DISCUSS THAT WITH THE
18:08:38 APPLICANT IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE BEFORE WE SET THE DATE.
18:08:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT?
18:08:45 >> IT WOULD BE CHRIS MCNEIL.
18:08:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE DON'T HAVE HIM UP YET.
18:08:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHICH ITEM IS THIS?
18:08:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 6.
18:08:57 MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE HIM?
18:08:59 >>CLERK: HE IS LOGGED ON.
18:09:02 CHRIS, IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF AND TURN ON YOUR
18:09:13 CAMERA.
18:09:15 >> OKAY, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
18:09:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU BUT WE NEED YOUR CAMERA ON.
18:09:18 >> OKAY.
18:09:20 THERE WE GO.
18:09:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY, WE HAVE HIM.
18:09:23 >> THANK YOU.
18:09:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MCNEIL.
18:09:26 WE ARE LOOKING AT DATES FOR YOUR CONTINUANCE AND THE
18:09:38 18TH SEEMS TO BE PRETTY FULL AND LOOKING AT 12/9/21.
18:09:40 >> YES, SIR, WE WOULD BE AVAILABLE THAT EVENING.
18:09:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
18:09:46 MOTION TO CONTINUE FOR 12/9/21.
18:09:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
18:09:51 WOULD WE DO THAT -- THIS IS SOMETHING I WOULD DISCUSS
18:09:51 ON COUNCIL.
18:09:54 CAN WE DO THAT AT 5:01.
18:09:57 THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR 5:01?
18:09:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS FINE.
18:10:00 MR. MIRANDA MOVED IT.
18:10:01 MR. DINGFELDER SECONDED IT.
18:10:02 ALL IN FAVOR.
18:10:03 ANY OPPOSED.
18:10:08 MOTION CARRIED FOR 12/9/21.
18:10:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A REMINDER THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
18:10:14 HAVE BEEN REGISTERED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS.
18:10:17 THIS ITEM IS NOW CONTINUED, SO THEY NO LONGER HAVE TO
18:10:20 STAY ONLINE AND BE AVAILABLE.
18:10:23 AND JUST A REMINDER THAT THEY WILL NOT RECEIVE ANY
18:10:27 ADDITIONAL NOTICE OF THE CONTINUANCE OTHER THAN WHAT
18:10:29 YOU HAVE HEARD TODAY THAT IT HAS BEEN CONTINUED TO
18:10:42 DECEMBER 9, 2021 AT 5:01 P.M. THANK YOU.
18:10:48 GUDES THOSE FOLKS FOR ITEM NUMBER 6, CONTINUED TO
18:10:56 12/9/21 AT 5:01 P.M.
18:10:58 ZANE, ANYTHING ELSE, SIR.
18:11:01 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: THAT'S IT.
18:11:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 3.
18:11:06 ZANE HUSSEIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
18:11:15 ITEM NUMBER 3, SU2-20-08 SPECIAL USE FOR A SCHOOL
18:11:20 4626, 4630, 4601 AND 4611 NORTH ROME AVENUE.
18:11:24 PASS IT ALONG TO DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING
18:11:24 COMMISSION.
18:11:30 >>DANNY COLLINS: HI, THIS IS DANNY COLLINS.
18:11:44 MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
18:11:50 CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN?
18:11:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN SEE YOUR SCREEN.
18:11:57 NOT YET, WE CAN SEE YOU.
18:11:58 MADAM CLERK.
18:12:01 IS THAT ON OUR END OR HIS END?
18:12:03 WE CAN SEE YOUR SCREEN.
18:12:05 >>DANNY COLLINS: THIS IS DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR
18:12:06 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
18:12:08 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
18:12:17 OUR NEXT CASE IS IN THE TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT IN THE
18:12:20 WELLSWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:12:23 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION LOCATED HALF A MILE FROM
18:12:24 THE SITE.
18:12:28 THE CLOSEST TRANSIT IS ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT SITE ON
18:12:29 NORTH ROME AVENUE.
18:12:32 THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOT WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE AND
18:12:37 THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN A -- WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH
18:12:38 HAZARD AREA.
18:12:42 THIS SITE IS WITH EVACUATION ZONE A.
18:12:45 THIS IS AN AERIAL MATCH THE SUBJECT SITE AND
18:12:46 SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
18:12:48 YOU WILL SEE THE SUBJECT SITE SURROUNDED BY
18:12:52 PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE NORTH, EAST AND
18:12:52 SOUTH.
18:12:58 AND IT IS ALONG THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
18:13:02 THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
18:13:09 THE SITE UNDER THE PUBLIC, SEMIPUBLIC FUTURE LAND USE
18:13:11 DESIGNATION.
18:13:14 RESIDENTIAL-10 TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST OF ROME
18:13:18 AVENUE, R-35 TO THE SITE OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
18:13:21 THE TAMPA CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS HAS BEEN AT THE
18:13:25 CURRENT LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT SITE OF 1968 AS AN
18:13:27 ESTABLISHED PIECE OF COMMUNITY FABRIC.
18:13:32 THE SPECIAL USE 2 REQUEST IS TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT
18:13:34 OF NEW PERFORMING IN THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE
18:13:34 CAMPUS.
18:13:37 AND THIS WILL NOT ADVERSELY EFFECT THE SURROUNDING
18:13:41 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL USES, TAMPA CATHOLIC
18:13:46 HIGH SCHOOL HAS DEMONSTRATED@ADEQUATE BUFFER AND
18:13:49 SCREENING FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USE TO THE SOUTH WITH THE
18:13:52 DRAINAGE BEING PROVIDED AS WELL.
18:13:55 THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE CAMPUS ALSO USED FOR
18:13:58 PARKING AND OPEN SPACE PROVIDING A SENSITIVE TRANSITION
18:14:01 TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES.
18:14:05 WHILE THE CAMPUS IS A PART OF THE COMMUNITY FABRIC,
18:14:09 ENCOURAGES NONRESIDENTIAL USES TO BE ESSENTIAL AND
18:14:12 COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND THE SPECIAL
18:14:15 USE-2 REQUEST MEETS THIS POLICY CONSIDERATION.
18:14:17 BASED ON THE CONSIDERATIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS
18:14:19 THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
18:14:21 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
18:14:23 THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
18:14:26 AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY
18:14:28 QUESTIONS?
18:14:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COLLINS?
18:14:33 ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COLLINS?
18:14:34 THANK YOU, SIR.
18:14:35 ZANE, YOU ARE UP.
18:14:37 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
18:14:41 ZANE HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
18:14:43 MAY I HAVE CONTROL OF THE SCREEN?
18:14:44 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
18:14:50 SU-2-20-08.
18:14:51 THE APPLICANT IS MARK BENTLEY.
18:15:01 ADDRESS 4626, 4630, 4601 AND 4611 NORTH ROME AVENUE.
18:15:04 BEING PROPOSED FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL FAMILY TO A
18:15:06 SCHOOL SPECIAL USE.
18:15:15 THE ONE WAIVER IS SECTION 27-FENCE HEIGHT FROM SIX FEET
18:15:16 TO MAXIMUM OF EIGHT FEET.
18:15:19 AS YOU SEE THE SITE PLAN, YOU SEE THE OVERHEAD VIEW OF
18:15:20 THE PROPERTIES.
18:15:25 YOU WILL SEE THE WEST CAMPUS HERE BEING PARCEL A.
18:15:28 AND THE EAST CAMPUS BEING PARCEL B.
18:15:31 IN PARCEL A, YOU WILL SEE THE NEW PERFORMING ARTS
18:15:36 CENTER AND WHAT THE SPECIAL USE-2 IS FOR.
18:15:43 PARCEL A 11.4 ACRES AND PARCEL B, 21.74 ACRES.
18:15:47 PARCEL A IS SURROUNDED BY RS-60 ZONING ON ALL SIDES AND
18:15:51 PARCEL B TO THE RIGHT HERE IS CONSISTING OF RS-60
18:15:57 ZONING AROUND THE SITE, MINUS TO THE SOUTH IS RM-24 AS
18:15:59 YOU SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
18:16:01 RM-24.
18:16:04 ACCESS TO THE SITE IS ALONG NORTH ROME AVENUE.
18:16:14 GOES RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF BOTH SITES.
18:16:17 AS YOU SEE TO THE -- TO THE NORTH, WE HAVE WEST
18:16:18 LOUISIANA AVENUE.
18:16:21 TO THE SOURCE, YOU HAVE RIVER DRIVE AND WEST JOHNSON
18:16:22 AVENUE.
18:16:28 TO THE WEST YOU HAVE MULTIPLE -- NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS
18:16:32 AND ALSO AS DANNY SAID, THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER COMES
18:16:35 OVER HERE TO THE EAST.
18:16:38 AS I WENT OUT TO THE SITE, I COULDN'T ACCESS THE WHOLE
18:16:42 ENTIRE SITE, BUT I GOT TO WHERE I COULD, ON PARCEL A,
18:16:44 YOU WILL SEE THE FRONT ENTRANCE.
18:16:48 AND BACK THERE IS THE -- THE NEW ADDITION.
18:16:54 SITE, PARCEL B, YOU WILL SEE TAMPA CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL
18:16:57 STRUCTURE.
18:17:03 AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
18:17:06 TO THE WEST OF PARCEL B YOU WILL SEE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE
18:17:10 FAMILY HOMES ALL THROUGHOUT THE STREETS.
18:17:14 TO THE NORTH OF PARCEL B AND EAST OF PARCEL A, YOU WILL
18:17:17 SEE THAT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG THE
18:17:19 STREET ALSO.
18:17:21 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS
18:17:25 REVIEWED THE PETITION AND FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT
18:17:30 WITH THE APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA.
18:17:35 AND THE CITY OF COUNCIL APPROVE, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS
18:17:38 TO THE SITE PLAN MUST BE COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST AND
18:17:40 SECOND READING.
18:17:40 THANK YOU.
18:17:43 I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
18:17:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
18:17:44 ANY QUESTIONS?
18:17:46 WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
18:17:47 MR. BENTLEY.
18:17:50 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
18:17:56 MARK BENTLEY, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, TAMPA, 33602.
18:18:01 I HAVE BEEN SWORN AND REPRESENT THE DIOCESE OF ST.
18:18:03 PETERSBURG AND TAMPA CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL AND AN
18:18:06 AMENDMENT TO THEIR SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE
18:18:09 CONSTRUCTION OF A MULTIMEDIA PERFORMING ARTS CENTER
18:18:13 LOCATED ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE CAMPUS ON THE
18:18:16 WEST SIDE OF ROME.
18:18:20 THE NEW BUILDING WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 36,500 SQUARE
18:18:23 FEET AND WOULD REPLACE THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING
18:18:25 THAT CONSISTS OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
18:18:30 THE NET INCREASE WOULD BE 27,000 SQUARE FEET MORE OR
18:18:31 LESS.
18:18:33 IT IS IMPORTANT NOTE THAT THERE IS A CAP ON THE NUMBER
18:18:37 OF STUDENTS AND THIS CAP WILL BE MAINTAINED.
18:18:39 A TOTAL OF 900 STUDENTS.
18:18:42 THIS ONE CHANGE IN CONNECTION WITH THIS PERMIT.
18:18:51 THE TYPICAL ENROLLMENT AT TC IS 2700 AND THIS SEMESTER
18:18:53 728.
18:18:56 THE PURPOSE OF THE NEW BUILDING IS ALLOW THE BUILDING
18:19:01 TO ASSEMBLE AT ONE LOCATION FOR HOLY MASS AND SCHOOL
18:19:04 FUNCTIONS NOW CONDUCTED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CAMPUS
18:19:05 IN THE GYMNASIUM.
18:19:09 THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THEIR MISSION.
18:19:13 THE NEW BUILDING WILL INCLUDE OFFICES, MEDIA AND ART
18:19:17 ROOMS WITH NO INCREASE THE ENROLLMENT, NO ADDITIONAL
18:19:20 TRAFFIC OR PARKING DEVELOPMENTS.
18:19:26 IN FACT, 171 SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND TC PROVIDES 353.
18:19:30 THERE WOULD BE SPECIAL EVENTS AT THE SCHOOL SUCH AS
18:19:34 PLAYS AND PERFORMANCES AND THE PRINCIPAL ROBERT LEE
18:19:38 HISTORICALLY THESE EVENTS DRAW 250 PERSONS.
18:19:41 IN TERMS OF GENERAL REQUIREMENTS REQUIRED FOR A SPECIAL
18:19:46 USE PERMIT UNDER CHAPTER 27, STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT
18:19:48 THE APPLICATION MEETS THE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE
18:19:52 CODE AND SPECIFIC CRITERIA PERTAINING TO SCHOOLS.
18:19:55 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF -- YOU HEARD FROM DANNY --
18:19:59 THEY FOUND IT AND I QUOTE COMPATIBLE -- COMPARABLE AND
18:20:01 COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND
18:20:06 CONSISTENT ABOUT THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
18:20:09 IF WOULD YOU LIKE -- AND IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE
18:20:13 ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT IS GOING ON AT RAYMOND JAMES
18:20:14 TONIGHT.
18:20:17 IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I WOULD GO THROUGH THE STANDARDS ONE
18:20:18 BY ONE.
18:20:20 I THINK THE STAFF HAS COVERED IT AS WELL UNLESS YOU
18:20:25 HAVE QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE -- QUALIFYING FOR THOSE
18:20:27 STANDARDS.
18:20:30 SO IN SUMMARY, THE CITY STAFF FINDS THE APPLICATION
18:20:33 COMPLETELY CONSISTENT WITH SOME MINOR REVISIONS TO THE
18:20:36 SITE PLAN BETWEEN NOW AND SECOND READING.
18:20:38 THERE WILL NOBODY INCREASE IN ENROLLMENT OR ANY
18:20:41 ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE ADDITIONAL
18:20:43 BUILDING.
18:20:45 PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS THE APPLICATION CONSISTENT
18:20:48 WITH THE COMP PLAN.
18:20:51 AND WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST CITY COUNCIL'S
18:20:51 APPROVAL.
18:20:54 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL ATTEMPT TO ANSWER
18:20:54 THOSE.
18:20:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BENTLEY OR THE
18:20:58 APPLICANT?
18:21:00 ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
18:21:03 MOVING ON, MOVE CONTINUE TO ANYBODY ELSE.
18:21:12 ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR FOR THIS ITEM?
18:21:15 >> AILEEN ROSARIO, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
18:21:18 WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON
18:21:21 THIS ITEM AND THEY HAVE ALL BEEN SWORN IN.
18:21:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
18:21:27 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF IT IS NOT -- I COULD DO THIS ON
18:21:29 REBUTTAL, I GUESS.
18:21:32 I WAS GOING TO SHOW YOU ACTUALLY THE FACILITY AND THE
18:21:33 LOCATION.
18:21:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE DONE, MR.
18:21:40 BENNETT -- MR. BENTLEY.
18:21:41 IF YOU NEED TIME --
18:21:43 >> JUST TAKE TEN SECONDS.
18:21:45 I SHOULD HAVE GONE OVER THIS FOR YOU.
18:21:49 ON THE ELMO, HERE IS A PICTURE, A RENDERING OF THE
18:21:51 PROPOSED PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
18:21:54 MIGHT BE UP TO 40, 42 FEET IN HEIGHT.
18:21:57 AND I SIMPLY WANTED TO SHOW YOU AND I WASN'T SURE IF
18:21:59 YOU CAUGHT THAT.
18:22:02 THE EXISTING BUILDING GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED WHERE I AM
18:22:04 POINTING RIGHT NOW 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND THE NEW
18:22:06 CENTER WILL BE LOCATED RIGHT THERE.
18:22:07 THAT'S IT.
18:22:07 OKAY.
18:22:08 THANK YOU.
18:22:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. BENTLEY.
18:22:17 ALL RIGHT, WE WILL --
18:22:21 >> GOOD EVENING, ROBERT LEES, THE PRESIDENT OF TAMPA
18:22:22 CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL.
18:22:24 THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME IN CONSIDERING OUR
18:22:24 REQUEST THIS EVENING.
18:22:29 I WANT TO SAY THREE QUICK POINTS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
18:22:32 MR. BENTLEY INDICATED FIRST AND FOREMOST THAT OUR
18:22:35 STUDENT POPULATION IS STATIC AND THIS PROJECT HAS
18:22:38 NOTHING TO DO WITH INCREASING ANY TRAFFIC OR STUDENT
18:22:40 INCREASE IN POPULATION.
18:22:42 FROM MY POINT OF VIEW AS PRINCIPAL, ONE OF THE BIGGEST
18:22:46 ISSUES IS -- IS IMPROVING STUDENT SAFETY.
18:22:49 AS HE MENTIONED WE GATHER AS A SCHOOL COMMUNITY FOR
18:22:53 MASS AND ASSEMBLIES AND OTHER THINGS CURRENTLY IN OUR
18:22:58 GYMNASIUM ON THE EAST SIDE OF CAMPUS REQUIRING US TO GO
18:23:04 ROME AVENUE AS A STUDENT BODY 738 OF US AND THIS WILL
18:23:07 ELIMINATE SAFETY CONCERN SOMETHING WE HAVE DONE AND
18:23:10 WILL BE AN ADDED BENEFIT TO OUR CAMPUS.
18:23:14 AS OUR SCHOOL HAS BEEN AROUND THIS AREA SINCE 1962, WE
18:23:17 ARE IN THE PRO PROCESS OF UPGRADING FACILITIES THAT
18:23:20 ARE, YOU KNOW -- NEARLY 60 YEARS OLD.
18:23:23 THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD UPGRADE -- SIGNIFICANT UPGRADE
18:23:27 TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY IMPROVING OUR
18:23:31 FACILITIES AND ALSO IMPROVING THE AESTHETICS OF THE
18:23:37 NEIGHBORHOOD BY DEMOING OLD BUILDINGS AND IMPROVING
18:23:40 FUNCTIONAL BUILDINGS AND BRINGING A GREATER SENSE OF
18:23:41 BEAUTY TO THE COMMUNITY.
18:23:44 THANKS, AGAIN, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND WE APPRECIATE
18:23:45 YOUR TIME.
18:23:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:23:53 ANYBODY WITH YOU, MR. BENTLEY OR IS THAT IS IT?
18:23:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. BENTLEY, IS THAT IT FOR YOUR
18:23:57 FOLKS?
18:24:00 >> YES, SIR, IT IS, THANK YOU.
18:24:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS AILEEN.
18:24:07 YOU CAN BRING THOSE OTHER FOLKS ON DOWN, PLEASE.
18:24:08 >> THEY DON'T WANT TO SPEAK.
18:24:11 THEY CHANGED THEIR MINDS.
18:24:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY CHANGED THEIR MINDS?
18:24:15 OKAY.
18:24:17 ALL RIGHT.
18:24:22 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON LINE FOR THIS ITEM, MAD DAMN DAM
18:24:23 CLERK?
18:24:26 >>CLERK: WE DID HAVE TWO REGISTERED KAREN PATTERSON
18:24:29 DID NOT LOG ON.
18:24:35 KEITH DIAZ DID LOG ON BUT ON A MOBILE DEVICE.
18:24:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MISS AILEEN.
18:24:40 >> I AM VERY SORRY BUT ONE PERSON.
18:24:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BRING THEM TO THE PODIUM, THE
18:24:44 LECTERN.
18:24:44 >> HI.
18:24:49 MY NAME IS KAREN PATTERSON, AND I LIVE AT 1510 PARK LANE
18:24:52 WHICH ABUTS THE EAST PORTION OF THE CAMPUS.
18:24:55 AND THE REASON I'M HERE TODAY.
18:24:59 I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THE BUILDING OF A PERFORMING ARTS
18:25:00 CENTER.
18:25:03 I THINK IT WILL BE ANS A SIT TO THE SCHOOL.
18:25:09 I DO HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH, BECAUSE IF IT IS 36,500
18:25:13 SQUARE FEET, AND THEY ARE ONLY EXPECTING TO DRAW 250
18:25:19 PEOPLE TO EVENTS WHEN THEY HAVE OVER 700 STUDENTS, I
18:25:22 KIND OF FIND THAT LITTLE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND.
18:25:27 ONE OF MY CONCERNS -- AND I DID SEND LETTERS TO CITY
18:25:33 COUNCIL -- WAS THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE ON MY STREET, THERE
18:25:38 ARE THREE STREETS, RIVER LANE, PARK LANE, AND RIVER
18:25:40 SHORE WAY.
18:25:51 THERE ARE 111 HOMES WITH ONE EXIT ON TO ROME AVENUE
18:25:59 DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE EXIT TO THE PARKING LOT.
18:26:02 DISMISSAL AND AT DROP-OFF AT THE MORNING.
18:26:10 IT CREATES A HAZARD FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES GETTING OUT
18:26:11 OF OUR THREE STREETS.
18:26:14 WHAT THEY FAILED TO LOOK AT IS PUTTING AN EXIT TO THE
18:26:23 PARKING LOT ON TO WISHART AVENUE.
18:26:26 TAMPA CATHOLIC IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF ROME AND
18:26:27 WISHART.
18:26:31 ON THE WISHART SIDE, THERE ARE THREE STREETS AS WELL,
18:26:35 DARBY, MENDENHALL AND EL PASO.
18:26:41 THOSE THREE STREETS DON'T HAVE 111 HOUSES ON THE FIRST
18:26:43 BLOCK OF THOSE THREE STREETS.
18:26:45 THERE ARE ONLY 37 HOMES.
18:26:52 AND ALL OF THOSE THREE STREETS HAVE AN ALTERNATE EXIT.
18:26:54 WE ONLY HAVE ONE EXIT ON ROME AVENUE.
18:27:00 SO ALL I AM ASKING IS THAT THE DIOCESE OF ST.
18:27:03 PETERSBURG, CITY COUNCIL, AND TAMPA CATHOLIC RECONSIDER
18:27:10 THE TRAFFIC AND THE EXITING OF THE TRAFFIC FROM THOSE
18:27:11 PARKING LOTS.
18:27:16 AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
18:27:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR THE COMMENTS.
18:27:22 >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION OR NO?
18:27:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOES SHE STILL HAVE TIME, MADAM
18:27:28 CLERK?
18:27:31 >> HOW MANY PEOPLE DOES IT SEAT.
18:27:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL THE AUDITORIUM.
18:27:41 MAYBE MR. BENTLEY CAN ANSWER THAT IN
18:27:42 REBUTTAL.
18:27:47 ANYBODY ELSE READY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, MISS AILEEN?
18:27:51 DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE REGISTERED?
18:27:52 >> NO ONE ELSE.
18:27:54 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:27:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. BENTLEY.
18:28:00 >> IF THE PRIOR SPEAKER CAN RETURN TO HER SEAT AND
18:28:02 WATCH IT ON THE SCREEN, THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
18:28:06 THANK YOU.
18:28:08 >> IT IS GETTING PRETTY CRAMPED IN HERE.
18:28:11 BUT -- JUST TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THESE POINTS.
18:28:14 THE ENROLLMENT HERE AGAIN HAVEN'T CHANGED.
18:28:16 IT IS STILL CAPPED BUT NOTHING WITH RESPECT TO
18:28:19 TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS IS GOING TO CHANGE.
18:28:24 THE CAPACITY FOR THE NEW PERFORMING ARTS FACILITY IS
18:28:26 735 FIXED SEATS.
18:28:31 AS I MENTIONED THE STUDENT POPULATION IS 750 MORE OR
18:28:32 LESS.
18:28:35 FOR MONTHLY MASS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, CERTAIN SCHOOL
18:28:37 EVENTS, THERE WOULD BE CAPACITY.
18:28:42 WHAT I MEANT TO SAY IS WHEN THEY HAVE A PLAY OR, LIKE A
18:28:44 BAND PERFORMANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY GENERALLY
18:28:49 DRAW ABOUT 250 PEOPLE FOR A SPECIAL EVENT.
18:28:50 I THINK YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED E-MAILS FROM
18:28:54 TRANSPORTATION AND YOUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT THAT IS A
18:28:57 RESULT OF THE DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS BEING APPROVED BY THE
18:29:00 CITY AND THEY ARE NOT BEING ANY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO
18:29:05 THE CAMPUS IS THAT THE DRIVEWAYS ARE PERMITTED TO BE
18:29:08 LOCATED IN THEIR PRESENT LOCATION AND WE HAVE HIRED A
18:29:11 TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER AND HE EVALUATED THE
18:29:14 CIRCULATION AND MOVEMENT OUT THERE THE WAY IT IS
18:29:18 HANDLED AND FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, NOT REALLY ANY
18:29:18 PROBLEM.
18:29:22 HE IS HERE IF YOU WANTS TO ASK HIM IN ANY QUESTIONS.
18:29:24 MICHAEL YATES.
18:29:26 THAT IS THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT.
18:29:27 NOTHING REALLY CHANGED.
18:29:29 WE JUST ADDED THE NEW BUILDING.
18:29:30 NO MORE STUDENTS.
18:29:33 WE WOULD CONSIDER YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL
18:29:34 TONIGHT.
18:29:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS.
18:29:37 MR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
18:29:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH REGARD TO THE SPEAKER THAT WAS
18:29:41 UP HERE.
18:29:44 WAS THAT IN REGARD TO THE PICK-UP AND DROP-OFF IN THE
18:29:50 MORNING AND AFTERNOON, IS THAT WHAT SHE WAS REFERRING
18:29:50 TO.
18:30:00 THE CAR LINE ON ROME AND WISHART AND ALL THAT?
18:30:01 >> OKAY.
18:30:07 I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT DROP-OFF AND DISMISSAL, BUT WITH
18:30:11 THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, I MEAN, THAT IS WHERE
18:30:15 FUNCTIONS ARE GOING TO BE HELD, THE GYMNASIUM BEING IN
18:30:15 USE.
18:30:19 THAT IS WHERE SCHOOL FUNCTIONS ARE GOING TO BE HELD.
18:30:23 THERE IS NOT A SINGLE EXIT FROM THE PARKING LOT ON TO
18:30:27 WISHART AVENUE.
18:30:30 WHEN THERE IS ONLY 37 HOUSES ON THE FIRST THREE BLOCKS.
18:30:36 AND THEY ALL HAVE ALTERNATE EXITS FOR THE RESIDENTS OR
18:30:38 EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO USE.
18:30:45 RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE FOUR ENTRANCES AND EXITS TO TAMPA
18:30:48 CATHOLIC ON ROME AVENUE.
18:30:54 AND AGAIN, I SAID THERE IS 111 HOUSES WITH ONE EXIT ON
18:30:57 TO ROME AVENUE.
18:31:00 AND FIRST OF ALL, WHEN THEY PLAN THE THREE EXITS FROM
18:31:03 THE WEST CAMPUS.
18:31:11 IT WAS VERY MOORE PLANNING BECAUSE ONE OF THEM WAS
18:31:14 ACROSS THE STREET FROM RIVER SHORE WAY.
18:31:18 THE PEOPLE THAT EXIT TAMPA CATHOLIC DON'T REALIZE THAT
18:31:21 THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET HAVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BEFORE
18:31:22 PEOPLE IN A PARKING LOT.
18:31:26 SO I CHALLENGE ALL TO COME AND TRY IT YOURSELF.
18:31:30 SOME DAY AT DISMISSAL OR SOME DAY WHEN THERE IS A
18:31:33 SPECIAL EVENT AND THEY PARK CARS ALL IN THERE AT NIGHT
18:31:38 FOR FOOTBALL GAMES AND WHAT ELSE, ARE, YOU KNOW, I JUST
18:31:43 THINK IT IS A SAFETY CONCERN AND UTTER DISRESPECT FOR
18:31:45 PEOPLE ON THE THREE STREETS.
18:31:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DID THAT ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN, MR.
18:31:48 MANISCALCO.
18:31:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH.
18:31:54 IS THE SCHOOL TAKING ANY ACTION ON -- ON MEDIATING
18:31:54 THAT?
18:31:58 NOW THAT --
18:32:00 >> YEAH, MR. MANISCALCO.
18:32:01 I CAN'T SEE WHERE YOU ARE --
18:32:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM A GHOST.
18:32:06 >> 200 STUDENTS WHO DRIVE TO SCHOOL AND SENIORS AND
18:32:14 JUNIORS, 70% STAY FOR ATHLETICS AND ACTIVITIES.
18:32:18 AND SCHOOL RECEIVED ONE COMPLAINT AND A RAMP-UP WITH
18:32:21 PARENTS AND ONCE THEY LEARN THE SYSTEM THEY OPERATE
18:32:22 VERY SMOOTHLY.
18:32:22 BELIEVE ME.
18:32:23 I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE.
18:32:29 THERE IS 178TH TENTH-GRADER AND 25% OF THE SCHOOL
18:32:33 POPULATION AND THEY USE WISHART EXCLUSIVELY AND THE
18:32:36 NINTH GRADE PRETTY MUCH USES THE ROME.
18:32:50 EXCUSE ME?
18:32:55 MISS PATTERSON IS TALKING IN MY EAR AND KIND OF
18:32:55 DISTRACTING.
18:32:59 I KNOW THAT MISS SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ IS PARTICIPATING
18:33:01 IN THE HEARING AND SHE IS FAMILIAR WITH THE ISSUE OF
18:33:03 THE DRIVEWAYS BEING VESTED.
18:33:07 I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP MICHAEL YATES, THE TRAFFIC
18:33:11 ENGINEER AND GIVE A THUMBNAIL SKETCH AND WE SPENT A LOT
18:33:14 OF TIME ANALYZING THE CIRCULATION -- IF YOU WOULDN'T
18:33:18 MIND TO INDULGE ME ONE MINUTE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
18:33:22 MIKE, WILL YOU GO OVER IT, PLEASE.
18:33:25 >> GOOD EVENING, MICHAEL YATES.
18:33:28 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
18:33:31 DO YOU SEE THE SITE PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE SCREEN?
18:33:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON THE MONITORS.
18:33:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY SEE IT NOW, SIR.
18:33:39 >> I'LL GO TO THE ELEVATIONS.
18:33:43 I WENT OUT THERE AND DID OBSERVATIONS DURING BOTH
18:33:46 DISMISSAL AND DROP-OFF.
18:33:51 AND I CAN GO THROUGH ALL THOSE OPERATIONS WITH YOU.
18:33:56 THIS IS THE DROP-OFF ON WISHART.
18:33:59 THEY COME IN -- THIS IS FOR TENTH GRADE.
18:34:00 THEY COME IN HERE AND EXIT HERE.
18:34:05 THIS IS THE EXISTING SIGNAL AT ROME AND WISHART.
18:34:09 THIS IS THE ENTRY FOR THE SCHOOL.
18:34:12 THEY HAVE THREE LANES FOR DROP-OFF.
18:34:18 BASICALLY THEY DROP-OFF AT THE TWO AND THE SENDER ONE
18:34:20 TO -- CENTER ONE TO BYPASS.
18:34:23 THEY ENTER AND THIS IS THE EXIT ONLY AND THIS IS THE
18:34:24 GATED ACCESS.
18:34:31 THIS IS THE EXIT ONLY THAT ALIGNS WITH THE RIVER SHORE
18:34:32 WAY.
18:34:39 WHICH THE LADY SPOKE TO EARLIER, BUT IT IS REALLY
18:34:45 DESIGNED TO EMPTY ONLY THIS PARKING LOT WHERE HALF OF
18:34:46 THE SENIORS PARK.
18:34:50 THE REMAINING -- EVERYBODY ELSE WHO PICKS UP AND DROPS
18:34:53 OFF EXITS THIS LOCATION.
18:34:57 AND THERE IS ALSO A PARKING AT THE GYMNASIUM FACILITY
18:34:59 AND THEY EXIT TO THE SOUTH.
18:35:04 WHAT WE DID OBSERVATIONS DURING THE DROP-OFF AND
18:35:08 PICKUP, AND BASICALLY WHAT WE OBSERVED IS DURING THE
18:35:14 DISMISSAL TIMES, THERE WAS NO MORE THAN ONE CAR IN
18:35:17 QUEUE DURING THE ENTIRE DISMISSAL.
18:35:19 THERE WAS REALLY NO DELAY AND THE MAJORITY OF THE
18:35:22 PARKING LOT WAS EMPTY WITHIN FIVE MINUTES OF THE 3:00
18:35:24 DISMISSAL.
18:35:28 SO BY 3:05, THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKING LOT WAS
18:35:29 EMPTIED.
18:35:33 NO DELAY EXPERIENCED TO THE PEOPLE LEAVING RIVER SHORE
18:35:33 WAY.
18:35:38 DURING THE MORNING, WE HAD JUST MINOR QUEUEING THAT
18:35:42 OCCURRED A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT QUEUED THROUGH HERE.
18:35:46 IT TAKES ABOUT SEVEN CARS TO QUEUE UP TO RIVER SHORE
18:35:49 WAY FROM THE ENTRY HERE.
18:35:56 AND IT JUST OCCURRED FOR THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS 7:52,
18:36:02 ONE AT 8:01 AND ONE AT 8:02, BUT LESS THAN 30 SECONDS
18:36:06 OF QUEUEING AND THE RIVER SHORE WAY NEVER HAD MORE THAN
18:36:10 TWO CARS IN QUEUE, AND THEY WERE BOTH ABLE TO LEAVE
18:36:14 WITHIN 45 SECONDS OF ARRIVAL AT THE STOP SIGN.
18:36:17 SO I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY
18:36:22 HAVE, BUT WE DID LOOK AT IT, MADE SURE THAT OPERATING
18:36:24 CORRECTLY.
18:36:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMEN?
18:36:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:36:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
18:36:35 ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN.
18:36:37 BEING NO MORE QUESTIONS.
18:36:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:36:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES MR. BENTLEY HAVE ANY FINAL
18:36:42 COMMENTS?
18:36:45 >> NO, APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
18:36:47 I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE AND THESE KIDS WANT TO GET OUT
18:36:52 THERE AND OPERATE WITH THE SPEED AND OF THE MARINE
18:36:53 BATTALION.
18:36:56 I CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE I WAS IN THE MARINES FOR A
18:36:56 WHILE.
18:36:58 OPERATES VERY SMOOTHLY.
18:36:59 I WAS IMPRESSED.
18:37:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:37:02 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
18:37:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED?
18:37:06 ALL RIGHT.
18:37:08 MR. MANISCALCO.
18:37:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
18:37:15 I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
18:37:18 CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT
18:37:25 SU-2 APPROVING A SCHOOL IN A RS-60 RESIDENTIAL
18:37:27 SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY
18:37:33 OF 4626, 4630, 4601 AND 4611 NORTH ROME AVENUE IN THE
18:37:36 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
18:37:42 IN SECTION 1 HEREOF; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
18:37:43 THERE WAS ONE WAIVER.
18:37:46 AND THE APPLICANT HAS SHOWN BY THE ENGINEERING REPORTS,
18:37:50 THE VERBAL REPORT, SITE PLAN, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING IS
18:37:50 IN ORDER.
18:37:52 THAT'S IT.
18:37:55 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
18:37:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
18:37:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
18:37:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
18:38:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
18:38:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
18:38:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
18:38:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
18:38:07 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNAMIMOUSLY.
18:38:11 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ON SEPTEMBER 30 AT 9:30
18:38:12 A.M.
18:38:13 >> THANK YOU.
18:38:14 HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
18:38:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 4.
18:38:21 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH, ZANE HUSSEIN,
18:38:24 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION HERE.
18:38:30 AGENDA NUMBER 4, SU 2-21-04, A SPECIAL USE OF DRIVE IN
18:38:33 WINDOW OR RESTAURANT DRIVE-IN PROPERTY GENERALLY
18:38:39 LOCATED 17519 BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD.
18:38:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SORRY, FIRE ENGINES -- CAN WE HAVE
18:38:45 VOLUME BECAUSE WE COULDN'T HEAR A THING.
18:38:48 TRY IT AGAIN, ZANE.
18:38:50 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: NO PROBLEM.
18:38:52 ZANE HUSSEIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
18:38:58 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, CASE SU2-21-04.
18:39:02 REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE-2 FOR DRIVE IN WINDOW OR
18:39:05 RESTAURANT DRIVE-IN FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED 17519
18:39:08 BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD.
18:39:10 DANNY COLLINS ON THE LINE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
18:39:11 DANNY?
18:39:23 >>DANNY COLLINS: HI, CAN YOU SHARE MY SCREEN.
18:39:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMEBODY MUTE THEIR --
18:39:29 >> SOMEBODY IS WATCHING TV.
18:39:31 >>DANNY COLLINS: WITH YOU SEE THE SCREEN?
18:39:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE GOT YOUR SCREEN.
18:39:36 >>DANNY COLLINS: THIS IS DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR
18:39:36 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
18:39:38 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
18:39:40 OUR NEXT CASE IS IN THE.
18:39:42 IN TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICTS AND MORE SPECIFICALLY
18:39:47 WITHIN THE RICHMOND PLACE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:39:51 THE NEAREST TRANSIT STOP IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF THE
18:39:53 SUBJECT SITE IN THE CORNER OF BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD
18:39:59 AND MADONNA MICHELLE DRIVE.
18:40:05 BRUCE B. DOWNS CORRIDOR AND SUBJECT SITE IN NOT IN AN
18:40:07 EVACUATION ZONE.
18:40:10 AN AERIAL OF THE SURROUNDING SITE AND PROPERTIES.
18:40:11 BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD.
18:40:15 COMMERCIAL USES ARE PRESENT ALONG THIS PORTION OF BRUCE
18:40:16 B. DOWNS.
18:40:19 HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
18:40:23 THE SUBJECT SITE IS CURRENTLY RECOGNIZED UNDER THE
18:40:30 COMMUNITY 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
18:40:35 C 35 IS FOUND ALL ALONG BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD.
18:40:36 ASSESSMENT AND CHARACTER.
18:40:38 AREA, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DETERMINED THAT
18:40:41 THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THIS
18:40:42 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
18:40:47 THE SUBJECT SITE IS ADJACENT TO THREE COMMERCIAL USES,
18:40:50 WITH TWO BEING RESTAURANTS AND ONE BEING A BANK TO THE
18:40:51 SOUTH.
18:40:55 ALL THREE OF THOSE HAD -- CURRENTLY HAVE DRIVE-THRU
18:40:57 WINDOWS.
18:41:01 THE PROPOSED DRIVE-IN WINDOW WILL BE COMPARABLE AND
18:41:05 COMPATIBLE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
18:41:07 THE REQUESTED IMPLEMENTS THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION
18:41:10 POLICIES WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CONSISTENT
18:41:13 WITH THE LONG-RANGE DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE CC-35
18:41:15 DESIGNATION.
18:41:17 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE
18:41:21 APPLICANT PROVIDE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION FROM BRUCE B.
18:41:24 DOWNS TO THE ENTRANCE OF THE RESTAURANT AND PROVIDE A
18:41:26 BIKE RACK ON THE SITE PLAN.
18:41:27 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
18:41:30 STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENCY WITH THE CITY OF
18:41:32 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
18:41:35 THIS CLONE CLOUDS MY PRESENTATION, AND I AM AVAILABLE
18:41:36 FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
18:41:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COLLINS?
18:41:40 HEARING NONE.
18:41:41 ZANE?
18:41:43 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH, ZANE HUSSEIN,
18:41:43 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
18:41:51 I WILL GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN, CASE SU 2-21-04.
18:41:58 THE APPLICANT IS DAVID MECHANIK.
18:42:00 BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD.
18:42:05 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO
18:42:07 DRIVE-IN WINDOW.
18:42:08 NO PROPOSED WAIVERS HERE.
18:42:12 AS YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY VIEW, YOU SEE THE PROPERTY
18:42:14 OUTLINED IN RED.
18:42:19 PROPOSED SPECIAL USE CONTAINS 1.95 ACRE AND CURRENTLY
18:42:22 OCCUPIED BY CONVENIENCE STORES AND GAS PUMPS WHERE THE
18:42:23 CURSOR IS.
18:42:27 LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF BRUCE B. DOWNS AND ALSO NORTH
18:42:30 PALMS VILLAGE PLACE INTERSECTION.
18:42:33 THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT HAS ACCESS TO THE SITE FROM
18:42:40 BRUCE B. DOWNS THROUGH NORTH PALM VILLAGE PLACE.
18:42:44 OVERHEAD LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN OF WHAT IS EXISTING.
18:42:47 AND ALSO SHOWING THE PROPOSED DRIVE THROUGH ADDITION
18:42:55 RIGHT HERE WHERE MY CURSOR IS AS I WENT OUT TO THE
18:42:57 SITE, SHOW YOU THE CONVENIENCE STORE HERE AS YOU FIRST
18:43:05 LOOK AT IT.
18:43:08 TO THE WEST OF THE SITE YOU HAVE A CHICK-FIL-A AND
18:43:12 OTHER FOOD.
18:43:17 AND SUPERMARKET, ALDI'S, RIGHT TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE
18:43:20 ACROSS BRUCE B. DOWNS.
18:43:24 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPROVED THE PETITION AND THE
18:43:27 REQUEST IS FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
18:43:28 DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
18:43:30 SHOULD BE THE PRESSURE OF THE CITY DOWN APPROVE THE
18:43:32 WAIVERS AND APPLICATION.
18:43:35 FURTHER MODIFICATION OF THE SITE PLAN MUST BE MADE
18:43:40 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
18:43:43 NO WAIVERS ON FILE.
18:43:50 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
18:43:52 GUDES THE APPLICANT.
18:43:56 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
18:43:57 >> YES.
18:43:58 >> THANK YOU.
18:44:02 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
18:44:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN, DAVID?
18:44:07 >> NO, ACTUALLY I HAVE NOT.
18:44:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU HAVE ANY FOLKS WITH YOU?
18:44:16 >> YES, I DO, ELIZABETH RODRIGUEZ, A TRANSPORTATION
18:44:19 PLANNER AND ROBBIE, WHO, IS THE ENGINEER.
18:44:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF THEY CAN COME UP ON THE SCREENS,
18:44:29 WE WILL SWEAR THEM IN TOO.
18:44:34 WE HAVE GOT ELIZABETH AND WHO ELSE?
18:44:38 >>CLERK: ROBBIE DID NOT LOG ON.
18:44:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ROBBIE DID NOT LOG ON.
18:44:45 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE
18:44:47 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
18:44:48 >> I DO.
18:44:49 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
18:44:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CARRY ON.
18:44:53 >> THANK YOU, MR. DINGFELDER.
18:44:56 THE STAFF DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF DESCRIBING THIS
18:44:56 REQUEST.
18:45:01 I WILL JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS.
18:45:09 THE ONLY THING WE ARE ASKING TONIGHT IS I ADDITION OF A
18:45:11 DRIVE-THRU WINDOW.
18:45:15 THE CONVENIENT STORE WITH GAS PUMPS HAS ALREADY BEEN
18:45:18 THERE AND WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THE
18:45:23 ACCESS OR TO THE SITE LAYOUT OTHER THAN TO ADD THE
18:45:29 DRIVE-THRU LANE WHICH QUEUES TO THE BACK AND TO THE
18:45:33 NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
18:45:38 WE AGREE WITH ALL THE CHANGES RECOMMENDED TO BE MADE ON
18:45:42 THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
18:45:45 I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT THE STAFF FOUND THE APPLICATION
18:45:54 TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE
18:45:56 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF RECOMMENDED IT BE CONSISTENT
18:45:58 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
18:46:01 WE HAVE ASKED FOR NO WAIVERS.
18:46:05 I WILL JUST BRIEFLY ADDRESS THE STANDARDS THAT AN
18:46:08 APPLICANT MUST ADDRESS IN ITS APPLICATION.
18:46:14 THESE ARE FOUND ON PAGE 3 AND PAGE 4 OF THE STAFF
18:46:16 REPORT.
18:46:21 THESE STANDARDS ALL RELATE TO THE USE, WHICH IS BEING
18:46:22 PROPOSED.
18:46:25 AND IN THIS CASE, WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE USE.
18:46:28 WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS
18:46:29 PUMPS.
18:46:33 THE ONLY CHANGE BEING THAT WE WILL ADD THE DRIVE-THRU
18:46:35 WINDOW.
18:46:38 THE ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT THE ADDITION OF THE DRIVE-THRU
18:46:46 WINDOW HAS A NOMINAL IMPACT AND THEREFORE OUR PROPOSAL
18:46:52 MEETS ALL OF THE STANDARDS THAT ARE LISTED ON PAGE 3
18:46:53 AND 4.
18:46:56 AND, AGAIN, I THINK YOUR STAFF HAS ALSO CONCLUDED THAT
18:46:59 WE MET THOSE STANDARDS.
18:47:02 SO WITH THAT, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
18:47:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MECHANIK, THE
18:47:07 APPLICANT?
18:47:09 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:47:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MECHANIK, HAVE YOU HEARD FROM
18:47:16 ANYONE YOU NOTICED OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, IF
18:47:17 THERE IS ONE?
18:47:19 >> WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM ANYONE.
18:47:22 AND I WILL NOTE THAT THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED ON ALL
18:47:25 SIDES BY COMMERCIAL USES.
18:47:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:47:29 >> SO WE WOULD NOT BE EXPECTING A NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE
18:47:32 INVOLVED IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
18:47:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE FOR THE APPLICANT?
18:47:38 >> MAY I, MR. CHAIR?
18:47:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED MR. VIERA.
18:47:43 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THIS, MR.
18:47:45 MECHANIK.
18:47:49 DRIVE-THRU OF THE GAS STATION THAT IS THERE NEXT TO THE
18:47:50 CHICK-FIL-A.
18:47:51 >> YES, SIR.
18:47:54 >>LUIS VIERA: OUT OF CURIOSITY AND A CLEAR REPORT FROM
18:47:56 PLANNING AND CITY OF TAMPA.
18:47:59 WHAT IS THE DRIVE-THRU GOING TO BE FOR?
18:48:01 WHAT --
18:48:05 >> RIGHT NOW THE PROPOSED TENANT IS A GOURMET COFFEE
18:48:07 ESTABLISHMENT.
18:48:11 SO IT WILL -- IT WILL BE SIMPLY ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR
18:48:17 PEOPLE TO STOP AND FUEL UP BEFORE THEY HAVE TO HEAD ON
18:48:18 THE ROAD FOR WORK.
18:48:20 >>LUIS VIERA: COOL.
18:48:22 THANK YOU, SIR, APPRECIATE IT.
18:48:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE FOR THE APPLICANT?
18:48:29 ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
18:48:32 SECOND FLOOR?
18:48:36 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, PLANNING AND GROWTH
18:48:36 MANAGEMENT.
18:48:38 NO ONE IS HERE.
18:48:42 >>CLERK: NO REGISTERED SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM.
18:48:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
18:48:47 OPPOSED.
18:48:50 MR. CITRO AND MR. CARLSON.
18:48:55 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE SU 2-21-04,
18:49:00 ORDINANCE OF FIRST READING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2
18:49:03 APPROVING A DRIVE-IN WINDOW OR RESTAURANT DRIVE IN
18:49:08 WINDOW IN A PD-A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT IN
18:49:14 THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 17519 BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD
18:49:17 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY
18:49:22 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
18:49:25 DATE.
18:49:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
18:49:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
18:49:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
18:49:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
18:49:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
18:49:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
18:49:34 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
18:49:37 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ON SEPTEMBER 30 AT 9:30
18:49:38 A.M.
18:49:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, ITEM NUMBER 5.
18:49:45 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEN.
18:49:46 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
18:49:49 ZANE HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
18:49:57 ITEM NUMBER 5, REZ-20-86, YOU REZONING OF THE PROPERTY
18:50:01 FROM 2715 WEST TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD FROM A PD TO PD
18:50:05 COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING OR BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL
18:50:06 OFFICE.
18:50:09 I WILL PASS IT ALONG TO DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING
18:50:15 COMMISSION.
18:50:21 >>DANNY COLLINS: CAN YOU SHARE MY SCREEN?
18:50:23 CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN?
18:50:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN SEE YOUR SCREEN, SIR.
18:50:28 >>DANNY COLLINS: DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING
18:50:28 COMMISSION STAFF.
18:50:29 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
18:50:32 OUR NEXT CASE IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT
18:50:35 AND MORE SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
18:50:36 NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:50:40 THE SUBJECT SITE IS ALSO WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN
18:50:41 VILLAGE.
18:50:47 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC PARK IS BEING LOCATED HALF MILE TO
18:50:47 THE SITE.
18:50:51 LOCATED TWO BLOCKS TO THE EAST OF THE SITE AND N.
18:50:51 ARMENIA AVENUE.
18:50:56 THE SUBJECTED SITE IS IN LEVEL E EVACUATION ZONE.
18:50:58 AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND SURROUNDING
18:51:01 PROPERTIES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST TAMPA BAY
18:51:02 BOULEVARD.
18:51:07 AND JUST -- JUST TO THE EAST OF NORTH HABANA AVENUE.
18:51:10 YOU WILL SEE THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ARE
18:51:12 PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL IN CHARACTER.
18:51:17 HERE IS THE -- HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE ST. LOUIS
18:51:17 MAP.
18:51:21 THE SUBJECT SITE -- LAND USE MAP, THE SUBJECT SITE IS
18:51:25 UNDER THE FUTURE LANDS USE.
18:51:28 AND RESIDENTIAL 20 IS FOUND ALONG THIS PORTION OF WEST
18:51:32 TAMPA BAY AND TO THE NORTH IN THIS TAN COLOR
18:51:32 RESIDENTIAL-10.
18:51:34 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND
18:51:36 FOUND NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING
18:51:38 NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:51:41 BOTH OPTIONS BEING PRESENTED TODAY WOULD BE TO DEVELOP
18:51:44 IN A MAN THEIR IS SENSITIVE AND COMPATIBLE TO THE
18:51:45 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:51:50 BOTH OPTIONS SUPPORT THE NETWORK OF BIKE FACILITIES ON
18:51:51 THE SITE PLAN.
18:51:55 OPTION TWO IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMERCIAL CRITERIA
18:51:58 FOR COMMERCIAL USES AS DESCRIBED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
18:52:02 PLAN AND QUINT THE INTENSITY UNDER THAT RESIDENTIAL 20
18:52:05 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
18:52:08 UNDER OPTION TWO, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING JUST UNDER
18:52:12 1500 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
18:52:15 THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES A PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY
18:52:19 CONNECTING PEDESTRIAN TO THE ENTRY OF THE BUILDING BUT
18:52:21 NOT CONNECT TO THE SIDEWALK ALONG WEST TAMPA BAY
18:52:22 BOULEVARD.
18:52:28 TO HAVE CONSISTENCY WITH ENCOURAGING BUILDING ENTRANCES
18:52:30 TO CONNECT TO PUBLIC SIDEWALKS.
18:52:32 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF WILL STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT
18:52:40 THE APPLICANT CONNECT THE TO THE SIDEWALK.
18:52:44 AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS CONSISTENT WITH THE
18:52:46 CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THIS CONCLUDES MY
18:52:50 PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
18:52:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COLLINS?
18:52:53 ALL RIGHT, ZANE.
18:52:56 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: ZANE HUSSEIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
18:52:58 CASE REZ 20-86.
18:53:03 THE APPLICANT AND REPRESENTATIVE IS STEVEN MICHELINI.
18:53:08 AND THE PROPERTY IS 2715 WEST TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD.
18:53:12 REQUEST FROM PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OFFICE
18:53:16 BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
18:53:19 OFFICE BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OR COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET
18:53:20 PARKING.
18:53:24 ONE WAIVER THAT IS REDUCE THE REQUIRED BUFFER FROM 15
18:53:30 FEET WITH MASONRY WALL WITH SIX-FOOT PVC FENCE.
18:53:33 AND NOW TWO WAIVERS REQUESTED HERE.
18:53:34 TWO OPTIONS.
18:53:38 AS OF SECTION 27-284.3.3.
18:53:45 OPTION ONE, TO REDUCE THE LANDSCAPE AREA BUFFER FROM
18:53:48 SIX FOOT TO NINE FEET WITH PVC FENCE.
18:53:53 FROM 15 FEET WITH SIX-FOOT MASONRY WITH FIVE FEET WITH
18:53:56 SIX-FOOT PVC.
18:54:04 OPTION TWO, REDUCE LANDSCAPE BEFORE FROM 15 FEET TO
18:54:06 SIX-FOOT PVC.
18:54:13 AND SIX FEET MASONRY WITH THREE FEET AND SIX-FOOT
18:54:14 MASONRY WALL.
18:54:17 AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE AERIAL VIEW PROPERTY OUTLINED
18:54:21 HERE IN RED, YOU WILL SEE TO THE -- TO THE WEST, YOU
18:54:26 WILL SEE THE COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS.
18:54:31 YOU HAVE OPTION A -- SORRY, OPTION 1 AND OPTION 2.
18:54:35 OPTION 2 HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AS HE WAS SAYING.
18:54:39 AND OPTION 1 IS BEING PROPOSED AT THIS TIME.
18:54:43 OPTION 1 IS FOR THE COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING HERE
18:54:46 OF THE ESTABLISHMENT TO THE WEST SIDE.
18:54:49 AND THEN OPTION 2 IS FOR THE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL
18:54:56 OFFICE HERE THAT IS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
18:55:00 THE PROPOSED USE OF THE COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARK ALSO
18:55:03 HAVE THE COMMERCIAL USE TO THE WEST HERE.
18:55:06 AND ALSO BOTH OPTIONS ARE FOR VEHICULAR ENTRY TO THE
18:55:10 SOUTH TO THE SITE OF THE WEST TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD TO
18:55:12 THE SOUTH.
18:55:17 THE TOTAL LOT AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 5300 SQUARE FEET
18:55:19 AND IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE WEST TAMPA BAY
18:55:23 BOULEVARD, EAST SIDE OF NORTH HABANA AVENUE AND WEST
18:55:27 OF NORTH TAM PAIN I CAN'T AVENUE.
18:55:29 AS I WENT OUT TO THE SITE, YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE
18:55:33 RIGHT HERE.
18:55:36 AND TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEAT RESIDENTIAL
18:55:39 SINGLE FAMILY.
18:55:42 TO THE WEST OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE THE COMMERCIAL
18:55:45 ESTABLISHMENT, THE CAFE.
18:55:47 AND TO THE EAST OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE THE
18:55:51 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.
18:55:54 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
18:55:57 THE APPLICATION AND FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH
18:55:59 THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
18:56:02 THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY DOWN APPROVE.
18:56:06 FURTHER MO MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
18:56:07 READING.
18:56:10 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE NEEDED.
18:56:12 GUDES ANY QUESTIONS?
18:56:14 HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
18:56:15 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
18:56:16 STEVE MICHELINI.
18:56:17 THIS PROPERTY IS --
18:56:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM SORRY?
18:56:26 >> IF YOU WILL LOOK AT YOUR OVERHEAD.
18:56:28 THIS IS A SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH THE -- WITH THE RED DOT
18:56:29 IN IT.
18:56:35 AND IT PREVIOUSLY WAS APPROVED FOR A BUSINESS AND
18:56:38 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE THAT ZANE POINTED OUT TO YOU.
18:56:43 THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL OFF=STREET PARKING
18:56:48 WHICH PRINCIPALLY WILL SERVE THE RESTAURANT HERE.
18:56:51 IT PREVIOUSLY IN THE PAST -- RECENT PAST HAD BEEN USED
18:56:54 AS PARKING LOT, BUT UPON INVESTIGATION, IT WAS
18:57:07 DISCOVERED THAT THE PD THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS DID NOT
18:57:09 ALLOW FOR PARKING.
18:57:15 AND THE PD WHICH IS BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL AND ADD
18:57:18 OFF-STREET WORKING AS A PERMITTED USE.
18:57:22 IT WILL PROVIDE NINE PARKING SPACES AND ONE A. D.
18:57:24 A. SPACE.
18:57:30 THEO OFFICE BUILDING WILL BE 1492 SQUARE FEET AND 30
18:57:33 FEET AND TWO STORIES, BUT THE REAL FOCUS HERE IS TO
18:57:38 PROVIDE LEGAL OFF STREET PARKING FOR A RESTAURANT.
18:57:40 IF YOU CAN SEE THE CARS THAT ARE LINED UP HERE ALONG
18:57:44 THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND ALSO IN THE FRONT OF THE
18:57:47 BUILDING BACK IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT ARE NOT
18:57:51 CONSIDERED TO BE LEGAL PARKING SPACES ACCORDING TO THE
18:57:55 CODE AND THIS WILL ALLOW THE OFF-STREET PARKING TO
18:57:58 RELIEVE SOME OF THAT CONFESSION AND ALSO PROVIDE FOR
18:58:01 LEGAL SPACES THAT WOULD BE OFFSITE.
18:58:04 THE COMMERCIAL PARKING MUST BE ADJACENT TO AND NOT
18:58:07 SEPARATED FROM THE STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE
18:58:10 COMMERCIAL USE AND MEETS THAT CRITERIA.
18:58:14 IT ALSO MUST BE LOCATED AS AN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT FOR
18:58:22 THAT DISTRICT AND MEETS THAT CRITERIA THE PARKING FOR
18:58:26 THE COMMERCIAL USE OF THE SITE AND NOT ADVERSE IMPACT
18:58:28 THAT MEETS THAT CRITERIA.
18:58:30 COMMERCIAL PARKING SCREENED FROM ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL
18:58:35 USES AND WE ARE PROPOSING SCREENING AS ZANE HAS POINTED
18:58:35 OUT.
18:58:43 YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE UNIQUE CONDITIONS.
18:58:47 A LOT OF THESE SMALLER RESTAURANTS ARE IN A CONGESTED
18:58:51 AREA AND WILL HELP TO RESOLVE THAT CONDITION.
18:58:58 AND PROMOTE THE EFFICIENT AND SUBSTANTIAL USE OF THE
18:58:58 LAND.
18:59:03 IN PARCEL HAS BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND
18:59:10 MEETLY ADJACENT TO -- IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE
18:59:15 RESTAURANT AND WILL REDUCE THE POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF
18:59:18 CARS BACKING INTO THE ROADWAY.
18:59:22 WILL NOT ELIMINATE ENTIRELY BUT ENCOURAGE THAT.
18:59:26 AND PROMOTE FOR CHARACTER AND MEETS THAT CRITERIA.
18:59:29 PROMOTE THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AN ELEMENTS THAT
18:59:37 CONTAIN THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PD FOR PROFESSIONAL AND
18:59:40 PROVIDES FOR THE PARKING OF THAT BUILDING IF IT WAS
18:59:41 EVER DEVELOPED.
18:59:45 THE DESIGN IS UNIQUE AND IN THESE WAIVERS, THIS IS A
18:59:50 RELATIVELY SMALL SITE AS THE STAFF HAS POINTED OUT 5300
18:59:50 SQUARE FEET.
19:00:01 AND SO THERE ARE UNIQUE CONDITIONS THAT REALLY ARE THE
19:00:02 NEED OF THE WAIVER.
19:00:04 AND THOSE OF HOW HAVE BEEN AT THIS LOCATION RECOGNIZE
19:00:09 THE FACT THAT CARS ARE PARKING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
19:00:11 AND NOT ALWAYS EASY TO ACCESS.
19:00:16 THE WAIVER IS IN HARMONY AND SERVES THE GENERAL INTENT
19:00:21 AND PURPOSE OF THE CHAPTER AND PROVIDE SOME RELIEF FOR
19:00:24 VIABLE BUILDING AND ALLOW THE WAIVER OF SUBSTANTIAL
19:00:28 JUSTICE WILL BE DONE.
19:00:31 THE STAFF OF THE CITY AND PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE
19:00:34 FOUND CONSISTENT AND WE ARE APPROXIMATELY TO MAKE
19:00:36 CHANGES AS REQUESTED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READ
19:00:39 GOING THE COUNCIL ACCEPT AND APPROVE THIS ON FIRST
19:00:40 READING.
19:00:43 AND WE WILL RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
19:00:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTION FROM THE APPLICANT.
19:00:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, BETWEEN
19:00:51 OPTION ONE, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR TWO OPTIONS.
19:00:56 >> THE EXISTING PD IS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND WE ARE
19:00:57 ATTEMPTING TO VEST THAT.
19:01:03 AND THE OTHER OPTION IS TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET
19:01:03 PARKING.
19:01:07 WE HAD TO IDENTIFY BOTH OPTIONS AND WE HAD TO SHOW
19:01:11 ON-SITE PLANS HOW BOTH OF THOSE OPTIONS WOULD FUNCTION.
19:01:13 YOU HAVE TWO SITE PLANS.
19:01:15 ONE SHOWS THE COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING AND ONE
19:01:18 SHOWS THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
19:01:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHICH IS THE ONE YOU ARE GOING TO
19:01:22 BUILD?
19:01:24 >> WE ARE ASKING TO ADD THEM SO THAT BOTH WILL BE
19:01:26 ALLOWED.
19:01:28 OBVIOUSLY THE COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARK WOOING GO AWAY
19:01:32 IF THE BUILDING WAS EVER DEVELOPED.
19:01:36 BUT RIGHT NOW, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO ADD THE COMMERCIAL
19:01:41 OFF-STREET PARKING.
19:01:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
19:01:43 I HEARD YOUR QUESTION.
19:01:45 AND MR. --
19:01:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM LOOKING AT ONE -- THEY WANT TO
19:01:51 HAVE PARKING BUT THEY WANT TO MAKE IT SO IN CASE THE
19:01:53 PARKING GOES AWAY THEY CAN BUILD A BUILDING IN THE
19:01:56 BACK, AM I CORRECT?
19:01:56 >> YES, SIR.
19:02:00 UNDER OPTION ONE IS THE COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING
19:02:02 WHICH WE ARE TRYING ADD AS A PERMITTED USE.
19:02:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CORRECT.
19:02:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE
19:02:21 APPLICANT?
19:02:27 ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
19:02:32 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, PLANNING AND GROWTH
19:02:33 MANAGEMENT.
19:02:35 NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK.
19:02:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE REGISTERED.
19:02:44 >>CLERK: NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
19:02:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER HAS A QUESTION.
19:02:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS A QUESTION -- SORT OF A
19:02:56 QUESTION AND A COMMENT FOR SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ AND MR.
19:02:56 SHELBY.
19:03:01 A YEAR AGO WE HAD THIS ISSUE AND -- STEVEN, DON'T GET
19:03:05 UPTIGHT, I AM TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS ADDITIONAL
19:03:06 PARKING AREA.
19:03:10 BUT ON A LEGAL TECHNICAL BASIS, MR. SHELBY, THE
19:03:15 PRESENTATION BY STAFF OF THE CASE, STAFF REPORT
19:03:18 INDICATED THAT THE PRIOR WAIVER WAS VESTED IN THIS NEW
19:03:19 APPLICATION.
19:03:29 IS THAT ISSUE HAS COME BUT A YEAR AGO MISS WELLS AND I
19:03:34 SORT OF DISAGREE ON THIS BUT PLAN TO CIRCLE BACK AND
19:03:36 TALK ABOUT THIS AT A FUTURE DATE.
19:03:40 MR. SHELBY, I WANT TO PUT A BOOKMARK ON THIS AS A
19:03:42 FUTURE LEGAL ISSUE.
19:03:44 BECAUSE I AM NOT REALLY -- I AM NOT WHOLLY CONVINCED
19:03:54 THAT PRIOR WAIVERS SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY VESTED FOR
19:03:55 NEW PDS.
19:03:59 AGAIN, MR. MICHELINI, TOTALLY A SIDE ISSUE.
19:04:01 I AM COMPLETELY IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
19:04:03 AND I WOULDN'T EVEN WAIT FOR AN ANSWER FROM MR. SHELBY
19:04:06 SO REALLY NOT EVEN A QUESTION BUT SOMETHING WE NEED TO
19:04:11 TALK ABOUT DOWN THE ROAD.
19:04:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT PUT IT INTO THE FILE OF THINGS TO
19:04:22 BRING BACK FOR THE DISCUSSION.
19:04:24 MOTION TO CLOSE BY MR. MANISCALCO.
19:04:27 SECONDED BY MR. CITRO.
19:04:29 ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED.
19:04:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: REZ 20-86 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
19:04:35 FOR FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION.
19:04:37 ORDINANCE REZONING THE PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY
19:04:41 OF 2715 WEST TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
19:04:45 FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED SECTION 1 OF
19:04:47 ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
19:04:50 OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL TO PD, PLANNED
19:04:54 DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OR
19:04:57 COMMERCIAL, OFF-STREET PARKING PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
19:04:59 DATE ALONG WITH THE WAIVERS.
19:05:05 VERY VISIONS WILL BE MADE BETWEEN -- REVISIONS WILL BE
19:05:07 MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND IN COMPLIANCE
19:05:12 WITH THE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT CODE 27-137 OF THE
19:05:15 PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN PROMOTES
19:05:19 AND ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN
19:05:22 LOCATION, CHARACTER AND CAPABILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING
19:05:26 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:05:27 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
19:05:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA HAS SECONDED.
19:05:31 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
19:05:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
19:05:34 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
19:05:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
19:05:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
19:05:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
19:05:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
19:05:42 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
19:05:49 SECOND READING AN ADOPTION SEPTEMBER 30, 9:30.
19:05:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TAKEN CARE OF ITEM NUMBER 6 EARLIER.
19:05:53 ITEM NUMBER 7.
19:05:56 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: ZANE HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT
19:05:57 COORDINATION.
19:06:03 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, REZ-21-56.
19:06:07 AT APPLICANT IS DEMETRIUS MILLER.
19:06:11 WEST FRANCES AVENUE, 301 WEST FRANCES AVENUE.
19:06:19 REZONING FROM RM-16 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
19:06:21 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
19:06:25 GO TO DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
19:06:26 >>DANNY COLLINS: I AM DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING
19:06:27 COMMISSION STAFF.
19:06:28 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
19:06:32 CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND MORE SPECIFICALLY
19:06:34 IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WITHIN THE TAMPA
19:06:36 HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
19:06:40 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS ROBERT C.
19:06:43 GARDNER PARK LOCATED A QUARTER MILE TO THE SOUTHEAST OF
19:06:44 THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:06:48 THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS A QUARTER MILE TO THE NORTH
19:06:52 OF NORTH OLA AVENUE AND YOU WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
19:06:54 THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOT IN AN EVACUATION ZONE.
19:06:59 AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SURROUNDING SITE AND YOU SEE IT
19:07:05 OUTLINED IN THE PURPLE COLOR IN NORTH OLA AND WEST
19:07:07 FRANCES AVENUE.
19:07:13 BY THE RESIDENTIAL USES SURROUND THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:07:17 HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
19:07:21 IT IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-35 LAND USE
19:07:26 DESIGNATION AND SURROUNDED ALL SIDES TO THE WEST SIDE
19:07:31 OF NORTH OLA AVENUE IS OUR PARCELS RECOGNIZE UNDER THE
19:07:34 CMU-35 DESIGNATION.
19:07:36 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION
19:07:40 AND FOUND NO AVERSION IMPACTS AND PROMOTE DENSITY TO 21
19:07:45 UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS 60% OF THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY TO
19:07:48 BE CONSIDERED -- CONSIDERED ON THE SUBJECT SITE UNDER
19:07:51 THAT R-35 DESIGNATION.
19:07:55 THE PROPOSED PD WILL ENCOURAGE NEW HOUSING ON
19:08:00 UNDERUTILIZED LAND AND ACCESS TO TRANSIT AND CONSISTENT
19:08:03 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CITY FORM STRATEGY.
19:08:06 AND ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S POLICY DIRECTION
19:08:10 WITH REGARDS TO URBAN VILLAGES, WHICH SEEKS TO DIRECT
19:08:14 THE GREATER SHARE OF GROWTH TO URBAN VILLAGES.
19:08:18 TWO DRIVEWAYS ARE ORIENTED ALONG NORTH OLA AVENUE.
19:08:23 ONE DRIVEWAY IS ORIENTED TOWARD WEST FRANCES AVENUE.
19:08:27 THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE REMAINING ACCESS THE SITE FROM THE
19:08:32 12-FOOT IMPROVED ALLEY WHICH IS ENCOURAGED BY THE
19:08:34 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:08:38 PEDESTRIAN AND FRONT DOORS BY NORTH OLA AVENUE AND OF
19:08:39 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:08:42 THIS DESIGN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES THAT
19:08:44 REQUIRE BUILDINGS IN URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS, MAINTAIN A
19:08:47 CONSISTENT OVERALL SETBACK FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY
19:08:50 IN ORDER TO CREATE A POLICE PLEASING DEFINITION TO THE
19:08:52 PUBLIC SIDEWALK AND STREET.
19:08:54 BASED ON THESE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
19:08:55 FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
19:08:57 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:09:00 THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I AM AVAILABLE TO
19:09:04 ANY QUESTIONS.
19:09:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, FOR MR. COLLINS.
19:09:09 ZANE HUSSEIN.
19:09:13 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: ZANE HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
19:09:15 APPLICANT IS DEMETRIUS MILLER.
19:09:18 301 WEST FRANCES AVENUE.
19:09:23 PROMISING REZONE ARE RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO
19:09:27 PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED.
19:09:31 ONE WAIVER FROM NATURAL RESOURCES FOR PAYMENT OF THE
19:09:33 TRUST FUND FOR THE MITIGATION OF TREES THAT CANNOT BE
19:09:35 PLANTED ON THE SITE.
19:09:37 IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE WHOLE ENTIRE
19:09:41 SITE, YOU WILL SEE THE SUBJECT PARCEL OUTLINED HERE IN
19:09:41 RED.
19:09:46 YOU WILL SEE THAT IT IS AT THE CORNER -- NORTHWEST
19:09:49 CORNER OF WEST FRANCES AVENUE.
19:09:53 AND ALSO NORTH OLA AVENUE.
19:09:57 THE SITE IS .2 ACRES HERE.
19:09:59 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
19:10:04 TO THE NORTH, WEST AND SOUTH.
19:10:07 IN THE RM-16 ZONING.
19:10:11 AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE TO THE EAST IN THE RM
19:10:18 24 ZONING AS WE LOOK AT THE OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE SITE
19:10:19 PLAN.
19:10:22 THE FOUR PROPOSED UNITS ON THE SITE.
19:10:26 THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED FOR ONE THREE-STORY TOWN HOUSE
19:10:29 STYLE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING WITH A TOTAL OF FOUR
19:10:36 DWELLING UNITS EACH ONE CONTAINS A TWO-CAR GARAGE
19:10:37 INSIDE.
19:10:40 TOTAL OF NINE PARKING SPACES INCLUDING ONE GUEST SPACE
19:10:44 AND NINE PARKING SPACES REQUIRED HAVE BEEN MET.
19:10:47 THE VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE SITE IS PROVIDED ON AN
19:10:52 APPROVED ALLEYWAY TO THE NORTH, NORTH OLA AVENUE, ON
19:10:55 THE EAST SIDE, AND WEST FRANCES AVENUE TO THE SOUTH TO
19:10:58 EACH AND EVERY DWELLING UNIT.
19:11:02 AS I WENT OUT TO THE SITE, YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT
19:11:07 PARCEL.
19:11:13 TO THE EAST OF THE SITE THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
19:11:15 HOME THAT I TALKED ABOUT.
19:11:20 TO THE EAST RM-16 WITH THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
19:11:22 AND TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE THE RESIDENTIAL
19:11:26 MULTIFAMILY UP AND DOWN THE STREET HERE.
19:11:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WAIT -- GO BACK --
19:11:32 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND
19:11:34 IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
19:11:35 CODE.
19:11:39 SHOULD BE THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY DOWN APPROVE THE
19:11:42 APPLICATION FURTHER MODIFICATIONS MADE BETWEEN FIRST
19:11:43 AND SECOND READING.
19:11:44 THANK YOU.
19:11:46 ANY QUESTIONS.
19:11:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED.
19:11:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ZANE, GO TO COUPLE OF PICTURES THAT
19:11:55 SURROUNDED.
19:11:58 I THOUGHT YOU SAID SURROUNDED ON THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST
19:12:01 AND WEST BY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.
19:12:04 BUT THEN WHEN YOU WENT TO THE PICTURE, YOU STARTED
19:12:06 TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS UP AND DOWN THE STREET
19:12:10 THAT WE COULDN'T SEE IN THE PICTURE.
19:12:12 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: YES, SIR, TO THE NORTH --
19:12:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: START WITH THE FIRST PART OF IT.
19:12:18 THE NORTH, EAST, SOUTH AND WEST IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO
19:12:24 THIS SITES, IS IT DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY OR NO?
19:12:27 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: CORRECT, SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE
19:12:32 IN THE RM-16 ZONING TO THE NORTH, WEST AND SOUTH.
19:12:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND EAST?
19:12:39 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: TO THE EAST IS SINGLE-FAMILY
19:12:42 RESIDENTIAL USE WITH THE RM-24 ZONING DISTRICT.
19:12:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE EXISTING.
19:12:47 THE EXISTING IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS ARE ALL SINGLE-FAMILY
19:12:49 DETACHED.
19:12:50 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: CORRECT.
19:12:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
19:12:54 AND WHEN YOU MADE REFERENCE TO OTHER THINGS GOING UP
19:12:57 AND DOWN THE STREET, UNLESS YOU HAVE PICTURES TO SHOW
19:13:04 US, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T SEE IT.
19:13:05 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: OKAY.
19:13:05 I UNDERSTAND.
19:13:07 THIS IS THE IMMEDIATE SITE.
19:13:10 THESE ARE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES UP AND DOWN THE
19:13:13 STREET.
19:13:16 THE SINGLE FAMILY UP AND DOWN THE STREET.
19:13:21 THE RM-24 ZONING.
19:13:23 AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
19:13:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:13:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ZANE?
19:13:30 ALL RIGHT.
19:13:30 HEARING NONE.
19:13:35 WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
19:13:40 >> GOOD EVENING.
19:13:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE YOU.
19:13:43 >> MY NAME IS RALPH SCHULER.
19:13:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN'T SEE YOU YET.
19:13:50 HE IS ON THE SECOND -- YOU THERE HE IS.
19:13:51 >> THERE WE GO.
19:13:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN CONTINUE, SIR.
19:13:54 >> MY NAME IS RALPH SCHULER.
19:13:56 I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN.
19:13:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
19:13:59 MADAM CLERK.
19:14:02 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE
19:14:05 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
19:14:06 >> I DO.
19:14:11 AGAIN, RALPH SCHULER, THE AGENT AT 2401 NORTH
19:14:12 HOWARD AVENUE.
19:14:16 THANK YOU THIS EVENING, COUNCIL, FOR YOUR TIME.
19:14:21 I'M HERE TO PRESENT 301 WEST FRANCES AS A NEW, EXCITING
19:14:24 TOWN HOUSE UNIT WHICH IS A SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED
19:14:26 PROJECT IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
19:14:29 IN PROJECT IS LOCATED TWO BLOCKS NORTH OF THE ARMATURE
19:14:32 WORKS AND THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.
19:14:34 THE STAFF HAS REVIEWED OUR PROJECT AND FOUND IT
19:14:37 CONSISTENT FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT.
19:14:42 GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN AND REVIEW THE BRIEF HISTORY
19:14:44 OF THE WEST SIDE OF TAMPA HEIGHTS.
19:14:47 TAMPA HEIGHTS IS DEFINED AS THE WEST OF TAMPA STREET,
19:14:51 EAST OF BOULEVARD AND SOUTH OF COLUMBUS WITH AN UNIQUE
19:14:51 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:14:55 IGNORED THE DUMPING GROUND OF HOMELESSNESS AND SOCIAL
19:14:55 SERVICES.
19:14:59 I EXPERIENCE THIS FIRST HAND AS A 23-YEAR RESIDENT OF
19:15:01 EXPECT HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD AND FORMER NEIGHBORHOOD
19:15:02 PRESIDENT.
19:15:07 TODAY WITH DECADES OF INVESTMENT OF RESIDENTS NOW,
19:15:12 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS, LARGE AND SMALL INVESTORS IN
19:15:14 TAMPA HEIGHTS ARE EXPERIENCING A REVOLUTION.
19:15:19 THAT BEGAN WITH ULELE, ARMATURE WORKS AND NOW SMALL
19:15:22 INVESTORS LIKE MY CLIENT, WYATT.
19:15:26 WE ARE REQUESTING A PD REZONING THAT IS CURRENTLY FOR A
19:15:30 PARCEL VERY UNDERUTILIZED FOR ONE-STORY SMALL BLOCK
19:15:32 HOUSE BUILT IN 1990.
19:15:34 NOW WITH RENAISSANCE COMES CHANGE.
19:15:39 CHANGE OF TAMPA HEIGHTS IS BEING -- IS VERY DRAMATIC
19:15:41 FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
19:15:47 FIRST OF ALL, AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS SHOWN,
19:15:49 THIS IS AN URBAN VILLAGE.
19:15:53 THIS IS -- THIS ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CMU-35.
19:16:00 IT'S SLATED FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS TO BECOME THIS.
19:16:05 NOW WE ARE EXPERIENCING THIS CHANGE, AND IT AND CAN BE
19:16:08 SOMEWHAT DRAMATIC.
19:16:12 HERE IS THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE SITE.
19:16:16 WE ARE RIGHT ON THE EDGE ON OLA AND FRANCES HERE IN
19:16:17 THIS BLACK BOX.
19:16:20 ACROSS THE STREET IS RM-24.
19:16:24 IF WE WERE -- IF WE WERE ONE-HALF BLOCK EAST, THIS
19:16:26 DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT BE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
19:16:29 WE WOULD NOT BE REQUESTING A PD, AND WE ARE ONLY ASKING
19:16:38 FOR ONE ADDITIONAL UNIT IN THE RM-16 LAND USE.
19:16:40 WHEN GOING FROM THREE UNITS TO FOUR.
19:16:43 AS MR. COLLINS STATED PREVIOUSLY, WE COULD HAVE ASKED
19:16:54 FOR SIX UNITS BASED ON THE R-35 FUTURE LAND USE.
19:17:01 WE FEEL THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THE SWEET SPOT FOR THE
19:17:05 -- FOR THE COMPATIBILITY OF THIS ADJACENT
19:17:06 NEIGHBORHOODS.
19:17:10 WE MEET ALL PRIMARY STRUCTURE SETBACKS IN SPIRIT ON THE
19:17:13 SOUTH, EAST AND WEST.
19:17:16 AND ON THE NORTH ALONG THE ALLEY, WE ARE JUST SLIGHTLY
19:17:18 BELOW.
19:17:24 BUT WE ARE PROPOSING FOUR SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS.
19:17:29 ALL THESE WOULD BE FOR SALE STYLE UNITS.
19:17:33 AND WE THINK THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR THIS
19:17:35 PROJECT.
19:17:38 FOR THIS BUILDING.
19:17:42 SOME OF THE -- I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS
19:17:47 LIKE.
19:17:57 AGAIN, THIS IS PROPOSED TO HAVE FOUR UNITS.
19:17:58 EACH UNIT HAS ITS OWN GARAGE.
19:18:01 WE HAVE TWO UNITS FACING OLA.
19:18:06 ONE UNIT FACING THE ALLEY AND ONE UNIT FACING FRANCES.
19:18:12 WE ARE PROPOSING LOW WALL ON TWO SIDES FOR EACH END
19:18:15 UNIT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF YARD AND THE TWO MIDDLE
19:18:18 UNITS BASED ON THE SITE PLAN WILL HAVE A BACK YARD.
19:18:21 DID MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND
19:18:24 SPECIFICALLY BRIAN SALE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT.
19:18:28 HE REQUESTED US TO INVESTIGATE OTHER SOLUTIONS WHICH WE
19:18:29 DID.
19:18:33 MAINLY THE OTHER SOLUTION WAS A REAR ALLEY ACCESS FOR
19:18:36 THESE -- FOR THESE GARAGES.
19:18:38 WE DID INVESTIGATE THAT SOLUTION.
19:18:42 BUT TRANSPORTATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES WERE OPPOSED
19:18:44 TO THAT SOLUTION --
19:18:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHO DID YOU SAY, SIR?
19:18:49 >> TRANSPORTATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES.
19:18:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
19:18:54 THANK YOU, SIR.
19:18:57 >> TRANSPORTATION REQUIRES AT LEAST A 24-FOOT TURNING
19:18:59 RADIUS INTO THE UNITS.
19:19:04 AND IF WE HAVE AT LEAST A SEVEN-FOOT SETBACK HERE AND
19:19:09 THIS LAUREL OAK -- THIS LAUREL OAK TO BE RETAINED, THAT
19:19:15 DRIVE AISLE CANNOT GET WITHIN THAT PROTECTED RADIUS.
19:19:20 ALL THOSE THINGS MADE -- THE ABILITY TO MAKE A REAR
19:19:24 ENTRANCE GARAGE IMPOSSIBLE.
19:19:26 THE MATH JUST DOESN'T WORK.
19:19:31 IN MEETING WITH TRANSPORTATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES,
19:19:36 THEY -- THEY AGREED THIS IS A -- A BETTER SOLUTION.
19:19:42 IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FROM CITY STAFF.
19:19:47 AND SOME OF THE -- SOME OF THE -- I KNOW THIS -- WE DID
19:19:49 MEET WITH THE -- WITH THE SPECIFIC ASSOCIATION.
19:19:52 AND I KNOW THERE IS PROBABLY SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK ON
19:19:55 THAT, BUT I THINK THIS IS AN ATTRACTIVE SOLUTION.
19:19:58 WE ARE NOT IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
19:20:00 WE ARE NOT IN AN OVERLAY DISTRICT.
19:20:02 WE MEET THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.
19:20:07 AND THERE ARE MANY OTHER PROJECTS SIMILAR TO THIS BEING
19:20:10 PROPOSED AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
19:20:17 I UNDERSTAND THAT CHANGE IS DIFFICULT TIMES.
19:20:18 I LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 23 YEARS.
19:20:22 BUT I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING IN ONE
19:20:24 DIRECTION.
19:20:28 IT IS GOING TO BE DENSIFIED BASED ON ZONING AND LAND
19:20:29 USE AND PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE.
19:20:30 LET'S FACE IT.
19:20:34 WHEN I MOVED HERE 25 YEARS AGO, WE DID NOT HAVE THAT
19:20:36 ABILITY.
19:20:39 PEOPLE -- IT WAS A DUMPING GROUND FOR SOCIAL SERVICES.
19:20:43 TODAY, WE ARE HAVING PEOPLE EXTREMELY EXCITED TO MOVE
19:20:45 INTO A PLACE LIKE THIS AND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR
19:20:46 THIS PROJECT.
19:20:48 THANK YOU.
19:20:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
19:20:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
19:20:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
19:20:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SCHULER, A COUPLE OF THINGS --
19:21:02 NO, YOU CAN LEAVE THAT UP, IF YOU WOULD.
19:21:05 SO IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT THIS -- THAT THESE COULD BE
19:21:06 REAR LOADED.
19:21:09 THAT THE GARAGES COULD BE REAR LOADED.
19:21:11 YOU ARE SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM ON THE BACK
19:21:13 IN ORDER TO MAKE THE TURN?
19:21:16 >> WELL, IT IS SEVERAL REASONS, THE WIDTH OF THE
19:21:18 PROPERTY IS 62 FEET.
19:21:21 YOU NEED 24-FOOT TURNING RADIUS.
19:21:24 I HAVE A 15-FOOT RADIUS HERE FROM THIS LAUREL OAK THAT
19:21:26 I CANNOT TOUCH.
19:21:28 IT IS ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
19:21:32 YOU ADD THE MATH UP, IT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
19:21:34 I HAVE EIGHT FEET LEFT OVER --
19:21:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME FINISH MY QUESTION, IF I.
19:21:39 >> YES, SIR.
19:21:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT NOW THOSE UNITS ARE SMACK-DAB
19:21:47 IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY, AT LEAST AS FAR AS UNITS
19:21:52 2 AND 3 ARE CONCERNED.
19:21:57 WHY -- DID YOU EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF SLIDING THEM
19:22:02 IN FORWARD TOWARD OLA?
19:22:07 AND ENTERING -- ENTERING THE DRIVEWAY FROM THE SOUTH.
19:22:12 AND THEN THAT WAY COULD YOU HAVE REAR LOADED GARAGES.
19:22:15 I MEAN, YOU ARE AN ARCHITECT, RIGHT?
19:22:16 >> YES, SIR.
19:22:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ISN'T IS MORE APPEALING AND
19:22:24 DESIRABLE TO HAVE REAR LOADED GARAGES ON THIS TYPE OF
19:22:26 UNIT FROM THE STREET PERSPECTIVE?
19:22:29 AND THEN -- WOULD YOU HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR FRONT
19:22:35 PORCHES OR FOR OTHER TYPES OF AMENITIES AS OPPOSED TO
19:22:38 LARGE GARAGE DOORS ON THE STREET.
19:22:39 >> YES.
19:22:42 I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.
19:22:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A PD, YOU HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY
19:22:46 IN THE PD.
19:22:51 WHY NOT MOVE UNITS 2 AND 3 FORWARD -- MAYBE EVEN UNIT 4
19:22:56 FORWARD AND LIFE IS THE DRIVEWAY IN FROM THE SOUTH?
19:22:59 >> MR. DINGFELDER, I RESPECT YOUR OPINION; HOWEVER, THE
19:23:00 MATH SIMPLY DOESN'T WORK.
19:23:05 AND THEN TRANSPORTATION WOULD REQUIRE US A HAMMER HEAD
19:23:08 HERE TO GET AROUND THIS LAUREL OAK.
19:23:09 I COULDN'T JUST STOP.
19:23:12 ALSO I AM ONLY ABOUT TEN FEET HERE ON THE EAST.
19:23:15 I CAN ONLY SLIDE A COUPLE -- SEVEN FEET WOULD BE THE
19:23:19 NORMAL CODE REQUIREMENTS HERE.
19:23:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS A NORMAL CODE REQUIREMENT.
19:23:22 YOU HAVE A PD.
19:23:23 YOU HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY.
19:23:24 >> I UNDERSTAND.
19:23:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SAY AN URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:23:31 WHY NOT HAVE AN URBAN AESTHETIC WHERE THE BUILDING GOES
19:23:34 UP CLOSER TO THE STREET AND REAR LOAD THOSE GARAGES?
19:23:37 I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU LOOKED AT?
19:23:40 >> THE ABILITY TO GET 24 FEET -- MR. DINGFELDER, I
19:23:43 APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT, BUT TO GET TO 24 FEET IS
19:23:43 REALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
19:23:48 >> THE TURNING RADIUS AND THEN THE SIZE OF THOSE UNITS
19:23:51 WOULD BE, AGAIN, EXTREMELY SMALL.
19:23:54 HERE WOULD BE EIGHT FEET -- DOWN HERE WILL PROBABLY BE
19:23:55 20 FEET.
19:23:57 WOULD YOU BASICALLY GET A GARAGE AND THAT WOULD IT BE
19:24:00 ON THE FIRST FLOOR, WHICH --
19:24:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS
19:24:07 CURRENTLY A RM-16 ZONING.
19:24:07 >> CORRECT.
19:24:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER; A RM-16 COULD YOU PULLED PERMIT FOR
19:24:13 THREE UNITS.
19:24:14 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
19:24:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS THE NECESSITY FOR FOUR
19:24:17 UNITS?
19:24:22 >> WELL, THE NECESSITY IS WE ARE -- LIKE ANYONE HERE IN
19:24:25 THE URBAN VILLAGE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE HIGHEST AND
19:24:29 BEST USE IT, BUT ALSO WE COULD HAVE ASKED FOR SIX
19:24:29 UNITS.
19:24:31 I MET WITH MY CLIENT.
19:24:33 MY CLIENT --
19:24:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONLY AN ECONOMIC NECESSITY,
19:24:37 CORRECT?
19:24:41 >> WELL -- I MEAN, HE IS -- HE IS A BUILDER.
19:24:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
19:24:44 HOW ABOUT MASS?
19:24:47 YOU OBVIOUSLY STUDIED A LOT MORE MASS THAN I EVER DID
19:24:49 IN AGRICULTURE SCHOOL.
19:24:54 BUT -- YOU KNOW, ISN'T -- ISN'T THE MASS OF THREE UNITS
19:24:58 SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THE MASS OF FOUR UNITS?
19:25:02 AND HOW IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH -- WITH THE SINGLE
19:25:04 FAMILY HOMES THAT SURROUND IT?
19:25:09 I MEAN, YOU GOT -- YOU GOT POTENTIALLY FOUR UNITS.
19:25:10 35 FEET TALL.
19:25:14 I CAN'T READ THE LENGTH OR WIDTH OF THIS THING.
19:25:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I HELP YOU THERE.
19:25:20 IT IS ONE OPPORTUNITY 24.4 X 36.
19:25:26 ANOTHER ONE 26 X 36, 26 X 36.
19:25:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOUR EYES ARE BETTER THAN MINE, MR.
19:25:33 MIRANDA, BUT MR. SCHULER, IT APPEARS THAT YOU ARE
19:25:35 PUTTING A HECK OF A LOT OF MASS ON WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY
19:25:39 A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME LOT AND STILL SURROUNDED BY
19:25:41 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
19:25:45 AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW STAFF OR YOU AS A
19:25:47 PROFESSIONAL CAN SAY THE FOUR UNITS AND THE MASS
19:25:49 ASSOCIATED WITH THE UNITS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:25:52 SURROUNDING HOMES.
19:25:55 >> WELL, THEN THERE IS THE CHALLENGE AND, AGAIN, I
19:25:59 RESPECT YOUR OPINION, MR. DINGFELDER, YOU GO FOR 40
19:26:02 YEARS, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS HAD THIS EXISTING ZONING.
19:26:06 FOR MANY YEARS NO ONE CARED TO LIVE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS
19:26:08 FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
19:26:11 AND IT WAS A DUMPING GROUND FOR SOCIAL SERVICES AND THE
19:26:12 HOMELESS.
19:26:15 NOW WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING, TAMPA HEIGHTS IS
19:26:16 A HOT MARKET.
19:26:23 THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO CHANGE AND ADAPT -- SOME
19:26:25 PEOPLE CALL IT A RENAISSANCE.
19:26:26 OTHERS CALL IT A REVOLUTION.
19:26:28 I CALL IT THE REALITY THIS IS GOING TO BE BASICALLY
19:26:31 DOWNTOWN WHEN YOU GET TO PALM AVENUE.
19:26:35 AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD -- IF WE WANT IT TO REMAIN SINGLE
19:26:39 FAMILY OR DUPLEX ORIENTED WE SHOULD INVESTIGATE AS A
19:26:42 CITY TO DOWNGRADE THE ZONING BUT PEOPLE ARE BUYING
19:26:47 PROPERTIES AT EXORBITANT PRICES BASED ON WHAT THEY ARE
19:26:48 ALLOWED TO BUILD.
19:26:52 AND I THINK I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE RESIDENTS WHO ARE
19:26:52 CONCERNED.
19:26:55 I TALKED TO THOSE RESIDENTS MYSELF.
19:26:57 BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS A PROJECT THAT MEETS ALL OF THE
19:26:58 REQUIREMENTS.
19:27:01 IT IS -- AS YOU SAID, I COULD BUILD THREE UNITS
19:27:05 TOMORROW AND NOT COME BEFORE YOU AND STILL HAVE ALL OF
19:27:06 THE SAME SOLUTIONS.
19:27:09 BUT I THINK IS A GOOD SOLUTION.
19:27:14 AND I RESPECTFULLY THINK THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT
19:27:16 DESERVES YOUR CONSIDERATION.
19:27:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER.
19:27:20 THE GENTLEMAN SAID THAT -- YOU SAID YOU LIVED IN TAMPA
19:27:22 HEIGHTS ALL YOUR LIFE, SIR?
19:27:24 >> I HAVE LIVED HERE 23 YEARS.
19:27:26 MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE.
19:27:29 I BUILT AND DESIGNED A HOUSE I LIVE IN CURRENTLY AT
19:27:30 TAMPA HEIGHTS.
19:27:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GREW UP AT 306 WEST PARK AVENUE.
19:27:37 MY UNCLE LIVED AT 305 WEST PARK AVENUE.
19:27:39 I KNOW THAT AREA VERY WELL.
19:27:42 MR. DINGFELDER IS RIGHT, IT WAS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
19:27:48 I CAN REMEMBER AS A BOY, MY GREAT-AUNT WHERE I LIVED
19:27:52 WITH A BUNCH OF AVOCADO TREES ALONG FRANCES AND THE
19:27:56 BACK ALLEYWAYS OF PARK STREET AND THE HOUSES WOULD SIT
19:27:57 BACK.
19:27:59 BUT NOW WITH DEVELOPMENT, HOUSES ARE SIGNATURE UP CLOSE
19:28:00 NOW.
19:28:02 SO I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, SIR.
19:28:04 I DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BECAUSE I GREW
19:28:07 UP ON THOSE STREETS THERE AND I KNOW THE AREA VERY WELL
19:28:11 AND I CAN SEE THE CONCERN THAT MR. DINGFELDER HAS AND
19:28:12 THE CONCERN I HAVE BECAUSE THAT AREA WAS SINGLE-FAMILY
19:28:16 HOMES FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
19:28:21 AND I UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMIC BASE AND THE NEW MOVE,
19:28:25 BUT THAT IS A LOT OF MASS ON THAT PROPERTY.
19:28:28 SO I CAN SEE WHERE MY COLLEAGUE IS GOING.
19:28:31 AND AGAIN JUST SO YOU KNOW, I DO UNDERSTAND THE AREA AS
19:28:35 WELL.
19:28:37 ANYTHING ELSE FOR THIS APPLICANT?
19:28:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO CHIME IN -- NOT TOO
19:28:41 MUCH IN THE AREA.
19:28:45 BUT I DIDN'T GROW UP THERE, BUT I KNOW THE AREA VERY
19:28:45 WELL.
19:28:51 WE MENTIONED ARMATURE WORKS.
19:28:52 AND HOW WONDERFUL IT IS.
19:28:53 AND IT IS.
19:28:55 IT IS A GREAT AREA.
19:28:57 GREAT AREA TO ENERGIZE YOURSELF.
19:29:00 GREAT AREA TO GO OUT WITH YOUR FAMILY AND HAVE A NICE
19:29:00 TIME.
19:29:08 AND THEY GOT PALM AVENUE, WHEN IT WAS WEST OF FLORIDA
19:29:12 AVENUE, THERE WAS NOTHING THERE.
19:29:17 AND INDIVIDUALS -- IT STARTED.
19:29:19 AND IT FAILED.
19:29:19 STARTED AGAIN.
19:29:21 AND IT FAILED.
19:29:24 FINALLY THEY HAD A PLAN THAT WORKED AND WOULD DO ONE
19:29:25 HECK OF A JOB.
19:29:29 I CAN'T PUT WHAT IS IN THAT AREA IN A RESIDENTIAL
19:29:30 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:29:35 BECAUSE THAT AREA WAS ZONED THAT WAY 95% OF IT.
19:29:38 WHAT I AM SAYING -- WHAT I AM LOOKING AT HERE IS
19:29:41 SOMETHING THAT -- AND I AM NOT COMPARING THIS WITH ANY
19:29:44 OTHER ZONING IN THE CITY, BUT WE HAD ONE NOT TOO LONG
19:29:45 AGO.
19:29:49 THE VICINITY OF WEST TAMPA, HABANA.
19:29:53 I CAN'T -- I COMPARE IT WITH SOMEBODY ELSE.
19:29:55 AND IT HAS THE SAME BASIC THINGS.
19:29:57 YOU REMEMBER EVEN THAT DEVELOPER WANTED TO PUT A
19:29:59 PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THE PLACE.
19:30:02 THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY AND I AM NOT
19:30:03 ANTI-DEVELOPMENT.
19:30:04 I AM NOT FOR DEVELOPMENT.
19:30:06 I AM FOR SEEING SOMETHING THAT WORKS.
19:30:08 AS I SEE THE UNITS.
19:30:12 NOT TELL YOU WHAT TO BUILD, WHAT COLOR TO PAINT, HOW
19:30:17 HIGH TO GO, HOW HIGH NOT TO GO, WHATEVER THE LAW SAYS
19:30:17 TO DO.
19:30:20 WHEN YOU CALCULATE THAT THING OUT, ONE AREA THAT IS
19:30:24 NEVER TAKEN INTO THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF WHAT IS DONE BY
19:30:27 THE LEGAL BEAVERS THAT WORK IN THE PLANNING DIVISION,
19:30:29 BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.
19:30:33 AND THAT IS LIVABILITY OF THE DWELLING THAT IS GOING
19:30:33 UP.
19:30:37 WHAT IS THERE AND WHAT IS NOT THERE AND WHAT IS GOING
19:30:39 TO HAPPEN WHEN WE START SOME CHANGES.
19:30:41 I AM NOT AGAINST CHANGE.
19:30:42 I MYSELF CHANGE.
19:30:45 I USED TO HAVE A LOT OF HAIR.
19:30:48 AND SAYING ALL THESE THINGS, IT COMES TO MIND THAT
19:30:53 WHEN YOU SAY THIS DOESN'T FIT THERE, AND YOU HAVE
19:30:55 ADMITTED SOME OF THAT BECAUSE YOU HAD TO MAKE SOME
19:30:58 DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENTS TO GET THE GOOD FOLKS THAT DO
19:31:00 THE PLANNING TO DO THIS.
19:31:02 THEN WHAT ARE YOU TELLING ME?
19:31:03 WHAT ARE YOU TELLING THIS COUNCIL?
19:31:07 THAT IT DOESN'T FIT THERE BECAUSE YOUR UNITS ARE TOO
19:31:10 LARGE OR YOU HAVE TOO MANY UNITS OR YOU DON'T HAVE
19:31:12 ENOUGH UNITS, OR WHAT IS IT?
19:31:18 AND -- IN ORDER TO FIT THIS, I GUESS TWO BEDROOMS,
19:31:22 MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHAT THEY ARE, BUT -- SO I WOULD
19:31:29 CALCULATE 870 FEET ON TWO UNITS AND 940 FEET ON TWO
19:31:29 UNITS.
19:31:33 THERE ABOUT LIVING QUARTER WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
19:31:35 ZONING, BUT MY MATH TELL ME I THINK THAT WILL COME
19:31:36 THERE.
19:31:38 HOW DOES THAT COMPARE WITH THE LIVABILITY OF ONE
19:31:39 OPPORTUNITY WAS THERE.
19:31:42 I AM NOT COMPARING THAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG.
19:31:45 I AM JUST SAYING THERE WAS ONE UNIT THERE AND I AM NOT
19:31:49 OPPOSED TO MAKE MORE THAN ONE, BUT IT DOESN'T FIT,
19:31:52 BECAUSE THE LAND IS NOT GIG ENOUGH.
19:31:53 THAT IS WHY IT DOESN'T FIT.
19:31:57 NO OTHER REASON WHY IT HAD TO BE REDESIGNED AND
19:32:06 DESIGNED THE WAY IT IS TODAY AND THAT IS MY TAKE ON IT.
19:32:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONLY BEEN HERE TWO DAYS, RIGHT.
19:32:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A COUPLE OF DAYS.
19:32:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE APPLICANT.
19:32:14 >> I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU --
19:32:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS HIS TIME --
19:32:20 >>CLERK: NO, HE STILL HAS SEVEN MINUTES.
19:32:24 >> SO IN -- I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU JUST IN CASE YOU
19:32:27 ARE NOT AWARE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS IS RECENT
19:32:31 DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN ONE TO TWO BLOCKS OF THE SUBJECT
19:32:31 SITE.
19:32:35 SO THIS IS A DUPLEX.
19:32:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOUR UNITS?
19:32:38 >> TWO UNITS.
19:32:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT SIZE LOT, SIR?
19:32:42 >> 60 FEET.
19:32:43 OURS IS 62.
19:32:45 THIS IS AROUND THE CORNER.
19:32:46 ALSO TWO UNITS.
19:32:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TWO UNITS.
19:32:51 HOW LONG IS THAT LOT, SIR?
19:32:52 >> 60 WIDE.
19:32:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOW MANY?
19:32:58 >> 60 WIDE, THE WIDTH OF THE LOT.
19:32:58 THIS ONE.
19:33:01 ALSO ON FRANCES AVENUE A COUPLE OF BLOCKS DOWN.
19:33:03 ALSO TWO UNITS.
19:33:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT SIZE LOT IS THAT SIR?
19:33:08 >> 60 WIDE.
19:33:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 60 FEET WIDE.
19:33:22 >> I BELIEVE SO I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO ASK ME
19:33:24 THOSE QUESTIONS.
19:33:30 THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT BLOCK AND A HALF AWAY TWO UNITS
19:33:32 IN THE FRONT, TWO IN THE BACK.
19:33:37 A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE SIMILAR IN SCALE AND MASSING.
19:33:40 NEW HOUSES WILL BE MUCH LARGER THAN OLD HOUSES.
19:33:43 THIS HOUSE IS OVER 5,000 SQUARE FEET AND HAVE SIMILAR
19:33:46 SETBACKS BUT IS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE.
19:33:50 AND LASTLY IS THIS ONE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
19:33:53 ALSO A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE.
19:33:57 AND, AGAIN, IT'S -- YOU SEE IT MEETS THE -- THE TYPICAL
19:33:58 SETBACKS.
19:34:03 SO I -- THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS -- IS ABSOLUTELY GOING
19:34:05 THROUGH A CHANGE.
19:34:08 AND I THINK -- I THINK THIS IS -- THIS IS CONSISTENT
19:34:12 WITHIN ALL THE REQUIREMENTS -- REQUIRED.
19:34:21 BUT I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MOTHER QUESTIONS.
19:34:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
19:34:24 THANK YOU, SIR.
19:34:27 WE WILL HEAR FROM ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR IN
19:34:35 REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM?
19:34:40 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, PLANNING AND GROWTH
19:34:41 MANAGEMENT.
19:34:44 ONE PERSON FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON
19:34:45 THIS ITEM.
19:34:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS AILEEN.
19:34:52 >> GOOD EVENING, DOUG PHILLIPS.
19:34:53 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
19:34:57 312 WEST FRANCES AVENUE.
19:34:59 I LIVED THERE 21, ALMOST 22 YEARS.
19:35:04 A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT RALPH SAID IS CORRECT.
19:35:07 IT'S -- THE HISTORICISH NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:35:10 IT IS NOT IN AN OVERLAY DISTRICT.
19:35:14 IT'S NOT HISTORIC, BUT IT SHOULD AT LEAST BE OVERLAY IN
19:35:15 MY OPINION.
19:35:20 ANYWAY, THAT IS BESIDES THE POINT.
19:35:24 I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THIS PROJECT, MOSTLY ON THE SAME
19:35:27 GROUNDS THAT MR. DINGFELDER BROUGHT UP.
19:35:34 IT IS JUST GINORMOUS IN MASS.
19:35:35 IT IS HUGE.
19:35:39 I FEEL LIKE THE REASON THE PARKING DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE
19:35:43 HE IS TRYING TO PUT TOO MUCH ON A SMALL LOT.
19:35:46 I GUESS I AM REALLY NERVOUS.
19:35:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
19:35:49 YOU ARE DOING GOOD.
19:35:52 >> I HAVE ONE OTHER THING TO SAY, I THINK, AND LET ME
19:35:53 LOOK AT MY NOTES.
19:35:58 IT'S -- I ALSO DISAGREE WITH THE PLANNING PEOPLE THAT
19:36:00 SAY THAT HE COULD HAVE PUT SIX UNITS THERE.
19:36:02 I MEAN, I LIVE THERE.
19:36:06 I LIVE IN A TWO-STORY HOUSE.
19:36:09 SIX UNITS WILL BE INSANE.
19:36:11 WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.
19:36:14 FOUR UNITS IN MY OPINION IS NOT GOOD FOR OUR
19:36:16 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:36:20 ALL THE UNITS THAT HE SHOWED YOU OAR AT LEAST A FEW OF
19:36:23 THEM, ONE OF THEM IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE.
19:36:28 I CAN'T STAND LOOKING OUT MY FRONT WINDOW NOW BECAUSE
19:36:32 OF THAT PERSON WAS ABLE TO PUT THEIR GARAGE FRONT
19:36:33 FLIGHT FRONT OF MY HOUSE.
19:36:37 WHEN THEY COULD HAVE REZONED -- NOT REZONED IT, BUT
19:36:40 DESIGNED IT SO THEY CAN ENTER THROUGH THE BACK.
19:36:43 THE BIG BLUE THING THAT HE SHOWED YOU IS TWO DOORS DOWN
19:36:44 FROM ME.
19:36:47 THEY AT LEAST UTILIZE THE GARAGE IN THE BACK, LIKE THE
19:36:52 OLD HOUSES HAD.
19:36:56 SO BASICALLY I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. MIRANDA, AS WELL,
19:36:59 THAT THIS IS A LITTLE TOO BIG FOR THIS PIECE OF
19:37:02 PROPERTY AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU ALLOW THE
19:37:09 EXISTING -- EXISTING ZONING TO CHANGE -- TO STAY THE
19:37:12 WAY IT IS.
19:37:13 I THINK THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
19:37:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:37:16 >> THANK YOU.
19:37:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. PHILLIPS -- MR. CHAIRMAN.
19:37:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
19:37:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. PHILLIPS, YOU LIVED THERE
19:37:25 SOUNDS LIKE MOST OF YOUR LIFE.
19:37:28 >> I LIVED IT SINCE 1999.
19:37:31 I BOUGHT THE HOUSE THROUGH THE MAYOR TAMPA HEIGHTS
19:37:32 PROJECT BACK THEN.
19:37:38 MY HOUSE IS A RESTORED 1900 BUNGALOW.
19:37:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND BASED UPON YOU LIVING THERE,
19:37:48 YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE CONSISTENCY AND THE
19:37:53 COMPATIBILITY OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF FOUR
19:37:57 UNITS AS COMPARED TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE
19:37:58 AROUND THERE.
19:38:02 AND -- I DRIVE UP AND DOWN THESE STREETS ALL THE TIME,
19:38:05 BUT I CAN'T TESTIFY IN TERMS OF HOW MANY SINGLE-FAMILY
19:38:11 HOMES ARE STILL THERE ON FRANCES AND ON PARK, ETC.
19:38:15 IF WE LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATIONS, WE MIGHT BE LED TO
19:38:18 BELIEVE THAT THIS WHOLE THING HAS GONE MULTIFAMILY.
19:38:22 BUT CAN YOU TESTIFY OTHERWISE?
19:38:25 >> I WOULD SAYS IT STILL MAJORITY SINGLE-FAMILY.
19:38:29 BUT AS THE ZONING SHOWS ON THE BLOCK THAT HE IS TALKING
19:38:32 ABOUT, ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET AND EVERYTHING, THE
19:38:34 ZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR A DUPLEX.
19:38:39 SO THAT'S WHY ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME, THERE WILL BE
19:38:42 A VACANT LOTTED FOR YEARS AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
19:38:43 IT HAD TREES.
19:38:44 THERE ARE NO TREES ANYMORE.
19:38:46 I SEE CONCRETE.
19:38:47 BUT ANYWAY --
19:38:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT IN TERMS OF SINGLE-FAMILY
19:38:52 DETACHED VERSUS QUADS.
19:38:54 I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH ANY QUADS AROUND -- RIGHT AROUND
19:38:55 THERE?
19:38:59 >> THIS THERE IS ONE QUAD AND ON AMELIA.
19:39:01 IT IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND ACCORDING TO THE
19:39:06 CITY PLANNER PEOPLE, THAT IS A DIFFERENT ZONING, SO
19:39:09 THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
19:39:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN THE RM-24.
19:39:13 >> I WILL TAKE YOUR WORD FOR THAT.
19:39:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:39:18 >> BUT THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, AT THIS POINT,
19:39:21 THERE ARE STILL MORE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES ON MY STREET
19:39:25 THAN THERE ARE DUPLEXES OR HOPEFULLY NOT THREE OR
19:39:27 FOURPLEXES.
19:39:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:39:29 APPRECIATE IT.
19:39:30 THANKS FOR COMING DOWN.
19:39:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM ON
19:39:42 THE SECOND FLOOR?
19:39:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T HEAR HIM --
19:39:47 >> I HAD ONE MORE THING TO SAY AND SORRY TO COME BACK.
19:39:51 I DID NOTICE ON THE -- THE WEB SITE THAT THERE IS AN
19:39:54 AGENDA THING AND IT SHOWS A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE
19:39:57 SUBMITTED STATEMENTS ONLINE AS WELL.
19:40:01 SO I DON'T WANT IT TO BE I AM THE ONLY ONE SPEAKING.
19:40:04 I SAW OTHERS WHO WERE OPPOSED AS WELL.
19:40:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:40:13 MISS AILEEN, ANYONE ELSE.
19:40:15 >> CAN ANYBODY HEAR ME?
19:40:17 >>CLERK: WE HAVE ONE THAT IS LOGGED ON.
19:40:21 BRIAN, CAN YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT LAND.
19:40:25 CAN YOU SWEAR AND I AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH
19:40:27 AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
19:40:27 >> I DO.
19:40:32 CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME OKAY?
19:40:32 >> WE HEAR YOU.
19:40:34 GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
19:40:37 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENT THE VIEWS OF THE
19:40:40 TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
19:40:46 MY NAME IS BRIAN SEEL, AND I AM THE ASSOCIATION
19:40:46 PRESIDENT.
19:40:54 OPPOSES THE LOCATION THE DENSITY IS EQUIVALENT TO A
19:40:57 RM-24 ZONING WHICH HAS BEEN MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS
19:40:59 COMMENTS AND WE BELIEVE IT IS INAPPROPRIATE TO THIS
19:41:00 PROPERTY.
19:41:04 THE ADDED DENSITY ON THE SLOT CREATES A BIGGER BUILDING
19:41:06 FOOTPRINT AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED AND CAUSES THE
19:41:08 REMOVAL OF ADDITIONAL TREES.
19:41:12 IT REQUIRES THE REDUCTION OF STANDARD SETBACKS ON
19:41:15 STREET FRONTING SIDES WHICH WOULD YOU GET IF IT WERE
19:41:16 NOT BEING REZONED.
19:41:19 IT HARMS OF PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE WITH THE LOCATION AND
19:41:21 THE QUANTITY OF DRIVEWAYS.
19:41:24 AND IT DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE DEVELOPMENT CONTEXT OF
19:41:28 THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:41:30 IN A NEIGHBORHOOD IS BUILT AROUND ITS HISTORIC
19:41:33 ALLEYWAYS, MOST HOMES CREATE A POSITIVE
19:41:36 PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY INTERACTION WITH THE STREET.
19:41:40 THIS APPLICANT MAKES DRIVEWAYS THE DEFINING FEATURE OF
19:41:44 THEIR DEVELOPMENT ON NORTH OLA AVENUE.
19:41:48 OLA IS SLATED ON THE CAPITAL PROJECTS LIST TO BE MADE A
19:41:48 BIKEWAY.
19:41:52 WE BELIEVE THAT ADDING TWO DOUBLE-WIDTH GARAGE VIOLATES
19:41:55 THE INTENT OF THAT PLAN AND CREATES MORE POTENTIAL FOR
19:41:57 PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE DANGER.
19:42:01 UNDER THE EXISTING RM-16 ZONE, THE APPLICANT COULD
19:42:04 BUILD THREE UNITS AS HAVE BEEN MENTIONED.
19:42:07 BUT THE IMPACTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE EXACERBATED BY
19:42:09 THE ADDITION OF THE FOURTH UNIT.
19:42:14 THE DESIGN OF THE FOUR-UNIT PROJECT APPROPRIATE TO
19:42:17 SCALE AND LAY OUT THE AREA.
19:42:20 WE MIGHT END UP SUPPORTING DENSITY, BUT FAILED TO
19:42:21 ACCOMMODATE THE CONCERN.
19:42:24 THEY HAVE FIVE MONTHS TO DO SO BECAUSE WE REACHED OUT
19:42:29 TO THEM IN APRIL 2021 WITHIN WEEKS OF FILING THE
19:42:34 APPLICATION TO PROACTIVELY EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS.
19:42:38 WE CAME TO THEM WITH OUR CONCERNS AND ASKED TO WORK
19:42:41 TOGETHER AS A TEAM AND THAT IS IT NOT HAPPEN.
19:42:44 THE SITE PLAN YOU SEE IS NEARLY IDENTICAL TO THE
19:42:46 ORIGINAL FILING.
19:42:51 NOT APPROPRIATE TO EXTEND THE RM-24 OF WEST OF OLA.
19:42:55 THIS IS 8,000 SQUARE FEET AND THE FOUR-UNIT DEVELOPMENT
19:42:59 THAT IS MENTIONED ACROSS THE STREET AND ONE BLOCK UP BY
19:43:04 DOUG, THAT DEVELOPMENT IS IN RM-24 ZONE, BUT THAT LOT
19:43:08 IS OVER 10,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS A LARGER LOT.
19:43:12 AND USING THAT TO JUSTIFY THE NEED FOR FOUR UNITS ON A
19:43:16 SMALLER LOT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
19:43:21 I BELIEVE THE DELINEATION BETWEEN RM-16 AND RM-24 WAS
19:43:25 CLEARLY SET BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND THOSE WHO SET IT
19:43:28 YEARS AGO FOR A REASON BECAUSE THE LOTS GET SMALLER
19:43:31 WEST OF OLA AVENUE.
19:43:33 APPLICANT CLAIMS IF THEY WERE ONE BLOCK EAST THEY COULD
19:43:35 HAVE FOUR UNITS BY RIGHT WHICH IS GREAT, THEN THEY
19:43:41 COULD HAVE BOUGHT LAND WITHIN THAT RM-24 ZONE.
19:43:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:43:45 >> LET ME CONCLUDE WITH ONE STATEMENT.
19:43:47 WE BELIEVE IT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN OF
19:43:49 CITY CODE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD
19:43:54 UNANIMOUSLY AND AT LEAST THREE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS
19:43:58 HAVE VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED THIS REZONING AND RESPECTFULLY
19:44:01 REQUEST THAT YOU DENY IT.
19:44:02 THANK YOU.
19:44:05 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. SEEL, IN ADDITION TO THE
19:44:07 CREDENTIALS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
19:44:10 WOULD YOU MIND TELLING US YOUR PROFESSIONAL CREDENTIALS
19:44:11 AND EXPERIENCE ALSO?
19:44:14 >> SURE, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER.
19:44:18 I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN CONSTRUCTION AND A YEAR AND
19:44:22 A HALF OF URBAN DEVELOPMENT GRADUATE SCHOOL.
19:44:24 I SERVED FOR 12 YEARS IN THE CONSTRUCTION AND
19:44:31 DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY MOST RECENTLY AS AN OWNERS REP
19:44:35 OVERSEEING ZONING, DESIGN AND OCCUPANCY SERVICES FOR
19:44:36 COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION.
19:44:42 I AM ALSO A PAST MEMBER OF IS IT CITY OF TAMPA VARIANCE
19:44:45 REVIEW BOARD.
19:44:46 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
19:44:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE REGISTERED, MADAM CLERK?
19:44:52 >>CLERK: NO, THE ONLY REGISTERED SPEAKER.
19:45:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: APPLICANT HAS REBUTTAL TIME.
19:45:02 THE APPLICANT HAS REBUTTAL TIME.
19:45:04 THERE HE IS.
19:45:05 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:45:08 I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE CIVIC
19:45:10 ASSOCIATION AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:45:14 AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS.
19:45:18 I THINK WHAT -- REALLY WHAT COMES DOWN TO IT HERE,
19:45:22 GENTLEMEN, IS WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN FLUX.
19:45:22 I GET IT.
19:45:24 I LIVE HERE TOO.
19:45:29 WE HAVE EXISTING ZONING THAT VARIES.
19:45:33 WE HAVE A LAND USE PLAN THAT IS EXTREMELY DENSE AND
19:45:36 OVER THE NEXT 30 TO 40 YEARS, WE WILL SEE MANY, MANY
19:45:39 PEOPLE COME HERE AND PRESENT PROJECTS SIMILAR IN SCALE
19:45:43 TO THIS ONE.
19:45:48 CURRENTLY, THERE ARE ACTIVE PROJECTS BEING DEVELOPED
19:45:52 ALL OVER THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:45:54 SOME ARE MORE CONTEXTUAL THAN OTHERS.
19:45:58 I AGREE THERE ARE SOME THAT DO A BETTER JOB IN TAKING
19:46:04 CARE OF THE CAR, I GUESS AS YOU WOULD SAY.
19:46:04 THIS MEETS CODE.
19:46:09 THIS MEETS THE INTENT OF EVERYONE WITHIN YOUR STAFF.
19:46:16 WE MEET HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, WE MEET SETBACKS.
19:46:19 ALL OF THESE THINGS THEY DISCUSSED HERE PREVIOUSLY IS
19:46:22 CONJECTURE.
19:46:26 NOW WHAT REALLY COMES DOWN TO I THINK AND THIS COUNCIL
19:46:30 NEEDS TO TALK TO THEIR STAFF AND THE CITY AT LARGE IS,
19:46:36 IS THIS IS TWO BLOCKS FROM AN EXTREMELY INTENSE URBAN
19:46:37 DEVELOPMENT.
19:46:38 PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE.
19:46:40 THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD NOW IF
19:46:44 YOU DON'T ALREADY LIVE HERE IS EITHER YOU BUY A LOT AND
19:46:50 BUILD A HOUSE WHICH WILL COST YOU A 1.5 MILLION.
19:46:57 THAT WHITE HOUSE I SHOWED YOU -- A NEIGHBORHOOD -- CAN
19:47:01 GET IN THIS MUCH, MUCH, SELLING BETWEEN $500,000 AND
19:47:03 $600,000.
19:47:06 AND I THINK INCLUSIVITY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE
19:47:06 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:47:10 AND I AM 100% FOR INCLUSIVITY.
19:47:15 BUT ARCHITECTURAL INCLUSIVITY IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT
19:47:20 BECAUSE WITHOUT THESE, WE HAVE -- GOING TO BECOME WHAT
19:47:22 WAS A VERY DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WILL BECOME AN
19:47:25 EXTREMELY DIFFICULT NEIGHBORHOOD TO LIVE IN UNLESS OUR
19:47:27 MILLIONAIRE.
19:47:30 SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS
19:47:35 PARTICULAR SITE, I DISAGREE THAT THEY ARE NOT
19:47:36 COMPATIBILITY.
19:47:39 I BELIEVE THEY ARE COMPATIBLE.
19:47:44 WITH THIS PROJECT WORK ON AN INTERIOR LOT, ABSOLUTELY
19:47:44 NOT.
19:47:47 THIS PROJECT ONLY WORKS ON THE CORNER LOT.
19:47:49 AND THE CORNER LOTS OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS WILL BE
19:47:53 DENSER THAN INTERIOR LOTS.
19:47:56 INTERIOR LOTS WILL BE DUPLEXES MORE THAN LIKELY.
19:48:01 THIS IS A MULTIFAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR GENERATIONS.
19:48:03 PAST AND GENERATIONS TO COME.
19:48:07 SO, YES, 100 YEARS AGO WE BUILT SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES
19:48:08 HERE.
19:48:10 AND A LOT HAVE CHANGED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IN THE LAST
19:48:11 100 YEARS.
19:48:13 LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN DOWNTOWN.
19:48:16 LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN ARMATURE WORKS.
19:48:18 ARMATURE WORKS WAS A DERELICT.
19:48:23 WHEN I MOVED HERE, MY THESIS -- MY MASTER'S THESIS
19:48:26 ON THE ARMATURE WORKS PROPER.
19:48:30 I HAVE DONE -- AGAIN, I THINK IT IS A FUNDAMENTAL
19:48:33 CHANGE IN ATTITUDE.
19:48:35 DO YOU EMBRACE IT OR WANT TO STAY THE SAME.
19:48:38 TO STAY THE SAME IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE IN THIS
19:48:40 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:48:42 IT IS -- PEOPLE ARE CASHING OUT.
19:48:49 THEY ARE GETTING $400,000, $500,000 AND $600,000 FOR
19:48:50 LOTS.
19:48:53 SO THINK AND TO IMAGINE THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL
19:48:56 STAY ONLY A SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD IS SHORTSIGHTED.
19:49:00 WITH THAT, I WOULD REALLY REQUEST YOU APPROVE THIS
19:49:00 PROJECT.
19:49:01 THANK YOU.
19:49:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
19:49:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.
19:49:09 MR. SCHULER, I HEAR WHAT YOU SAY.
19:49:12 WE CAN SIT DOWN OVER LUNCH AND TALK ABOUT ALL OF THIS
19:49:15 FOR AN HOUR OR TWO AND WE PROBABLY SHOULD OUTSIDE OF
19:49:21 CONTEXT OF THIS HEARING AT A LATER DATE, BUT HERE WE
19:49:22 ARE TODAY.
19:49:24 YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND, AND YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF
19:49:28 HEARINGS IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL.
19:49:30 I AM GOING TO TELL YOU HONESTLY I THINK -- AND I THINK
19:49:34 YOU SHOULD TALK TO YOUR CLIENT VERY QUICKLY.
19:49:36 I AM GOING TO TELL YOU HONESTLY I THINK YOU ARE ROLLING
19:49:40 THE DICE ON THIS IN TERMS OF UP OR DOWN.
19:49:42 I DON'T KNOW -- THERE ARE SEVEN OF US AND I AM ONLY
19:49:49 ONE, BUT YOU CAN HEAR SOME -- SOME VERY LOUD CONCERNS.
19:49:52 I ALWAYS LIKE TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PULL
19:49:55 BACK FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND REVISIT AND LISTEN TO
19:49:59 SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES THEY HEARD FROM COUNCIL AND
19:50:02 LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS AND TALK TO THOSE NEIGHBORS
19:50:03 AGAIN.
19:50:08 I -- FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, I -- I EVEN HEARD THEM SAY
19:50:10 MAYBE THEY COULD LIVE WITH FOUR UNITS BUT WITH
19:50:12 DIFFERENT DESIGN.
19:50:15 MAYBE SOME OF THOSE UNITS COULD BE REAR LOADED IF WE
19:50:17 THOUGHT OUTSIDE THE BOX.
19:50:22 MAYBE YOU CAN COME IN AND ASK FOR A WAIVER FOR THE
19:50:26 TURNING RADIUSES THAT STAFF ALWAYS ASK FOR AND PEOPLE
19:50:29 REQUEST FOR WAIVERS AND OFTEN GET THEM.
19:50:31 THERE IS A LOT OF MAKES.
19:50:34 MAYBE YOU CAN DO THREE LARGER UNITS AND MAKE THE MONEY
19:50:39 BACK AT THE PRICES THAT ARE GOING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:50:42 YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF MAYBES THERE.
19:50:46 BUT I DON'T KNOW FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND YOUR
19:50:49 CLIENT'S PERSPECTIVE IF YOU WANT TO ROLL THE DICE.
19:50:51 BECAUSE THE ADVANTAGE OF TAKING A BREAK -- THE
19:50:55 ADVANTAGE OF TAKING A BREAK, AS YOU KNOW, IN COMING
19:50:58 BACK A DIFFERENT DESIGN THAT EVERYBODY IS HAPPY WITH,
19:51:00 AS OPPOSED TO AN UP OR DOWN VOTE.
19:51:04 YOU GET AN OUT AND DOWN VOTE, YOU GOT TO START ALL OVER
19:51:05 AGAIN.
19:51:08 IF YOU TAKE A BREAK, YOU MAY USE THE SAME PD NUMBER AND
19:51:11 MODIFY YOUR PLANS AND GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
19:51:13 I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU.
19:51:16 YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK, RALPH.
19:51:18 THE OTHER THING I WILL MENTION IF YOU LOOK AT HYDE PARK
19:51:23 VILLAGE, OKAY, JUST A LARGE -- NOT AS BIG AS ARMATURE,
19:51:26 BUT A BIG GIANT PROJECT, IT IS SURROUNDED BY
19:51:28 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
19:51:31 VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
19:51:35 SO I KNOW -- I KNOW IT IS A LITTLE APPLES AND ORANGES,
19:51:37 BUT I AM SAYING THAT WE HAD SITUATIONS LIKE THIS
19:51:39 BEFORE.
19:51:44 SO ANYWAY, I AM SURE, MR. CHAIRMAN, WOULD GRACIOUSLY
19:51:48 ACCEPT IF YOU WANTED A CONTINUANCE OR PERHAPS THE
19:51:51 ENTIRE BOARD WOULD, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS
19:51:56 TO DECIDE.
19:51:59 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW MY CLIENT TO SPEAK, IF THAT'S
19:52:02 OKAY.
19:52:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HIS TIME IS UP.
19:52:08 >> HE STILL HAS ONE MINUTE AND SEVEN SECONDS.
19:52:09 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
19:52:10 I WILL MAKE THIS QUICK.
19:52:16 WE DID MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
19:52:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST HIS NAME AND IF HE WAS SWORN.
19:52:21 >> YES.
19:52:23 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
19:52:29 WYATT JOZWOWSKI.
19:52:32 TO MAKE THIS QUICK. WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:52:34 BRIAN OVER PHONE.
19:52:35 RALPH MET IN PERSON.
19:52:37 THIS WAS IN FACT OUR ORIGINAL SITE PLAN.
19:52:40 WE MADE CHANGES TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD
19:52:42 BASED ON THEIR FEEDBACK.
19:52:47 SO WE TRIED MULTIPLE WAYS TO MAKE THIS WORK.
19:52:51 YOU KNOW, THERE IS THE ABILITY POTENTIALLY TO GET A
19:52:54 WAIVER ON THE TURNING RADIUS AND A CHALLENGE OF THE
19:52:54 TREE.
19:52:57 SO BE MADE THE DECISION, AND I TRUSTED RALPH AS MY
19:53:01 ARCHITECT THAT THIS WAS INDEED THE BEST USE OF THE LAND
19:53:03 AND THIS WAS THE BEST LAYOUT.
19:53:08 AND I WILL ADD, BRIAN AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION,
19:53:10 THEIR COMPLAINT WAS NOT AROUND DENSITY EVER FROM THE
19:53:11 BEGINNING.
19:53:15 IT WAS ABOUT THE DRIVEWAYS AND THE MODERN STYLE.
19:53:18 I BELIEVE HE IS HERE TO OPPOSE THE DENSITY BECAUSE THAT
19:53:22 IS WHAT WE ARE HERE PROPOSING TODAY.
19:53:27 HOWEVER, WHEN HE CAME TO US, THERE WAS OTHER DISCUSSIONS.
19:53:30 IN FACT, WE SLIGHTLY CHANGED THE DESIGN TO ACCOMMODATE
19:53:33 THEM TO MAKE IT FEEL LITTLE WARMER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:53:37 SO WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN, I BELIEVE ON
19:53:39 OUR SIDE TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS
19:53:41 THAT LIVE NEARBY.
19:53:45 BUT, AGAIN, THIS IS TWO BLOCKS FROM AN APARTMENT
19:53:46 BUILDING.
19:53:51 AND MANY OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, RESTAURANTS AND I
19:53:54 PERSONALLY WILL BE LIVING IN ONE OF THESE UNITS IF WE
19:53:55 CAN IMAGINE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
19:54:00 SO IT IS NOT JUST AN INVESTMENT TO FLIP, BUT SOMETHING
19:54:04 THAT I AM ALSO VERY PERSONALLY PASSIONATE AND EXCITED
19:54:04 ABOUT.
19:54:07 THANK YOU.
19:54:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER.
19:54:13 I AM LOOKING AT HEAD SHAKES ABOUT CONTINUANCE.
19:54:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S SEE WHAT THEY WANT, I GUESS.
19:54:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I SPEAK, PLEASE?
19:54:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
19:54:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT AGAINST A LOT OF THINGS,
19:54:24 BUT JUST TODAY, WE HAD ONE THAT WE SAID WE WILL PUT IN
19:54:28 NOVEMBER AND NOW DECEMBER BECAUSE NOVEMBER IS FULL.
19:54:31 WE ARE EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS TUESDAYS AND
19:54:35 THURSDAYS TO CATCH UP OR WHEN YOU CONTINUE SOMETHING,
19:54:37 YOU ARE TAKING SOMEBODY'S SLOT THAT IS ON THE WAITING
19:54:38 LIST TO GET IN.
19:54:40 AND THIS IS NOT FAIR TO THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
19:54:44 I AM NOT HERE AGAINST OR FOR ANY COUNCILMEMBERS BUT WE
19:54:47 NEED TO COME TO A CONSENSUS WE EITHER GOING TO WALK
19:54:50 AWAY FROM THIS AND NO MORE CONTINUANCES OR SET ANOTHER
19:54:53 COUNCIL MEETING AND I DON'T MIND DOING EITHER ONE OF
19:54:57 THEM BUT I CAN'T KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ANY LONGER
19:55:00 AND THE PEOPLE APPLYING GET IN AND CANNOT GET IN
19:55:04 BECAUSE A CONTINUANCE TOOK ITS PLACE.
19:55:05 THAT WE HAVE IN ABUNDANCE.
19:55:08 LET ME GO BACK LITTLE FURTHER.
19:55:11 NOT ABOUT WHAT YOU PAID FOR -- NOT TO THIS CASE.
19:55:14 LET ME -- THAT WAS THE DECISION OF WHOEVER WANTED TO
19:55:18 BUY THAT LAND JUST MY DECISION WHO WHAT KIND OF CAR I
19:55:21 WANT TO BUY OR SHOES OR SUIT I WANT TO BUY.
19:55:22 THAT IS YOUR DECISION.
19:55:24 THIS IS AMERICA, FREE COUNTRY.
19:55:27 DON'T COME HERE AND ANYONE TELL ME WELL, YOU KNOW I GOT
19:55:28 TO HAVE THIS.
19:55:32 LISTEN, YOU DIDN'T CONSENT US ABOUT YOUR LAND, AND I AM
19:55:33 NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS CASE.
19:55:35 AGAIN I WANT TO MAKE REFERENCE TO THAT.
19:55:39 I AM A PRETTY LIBERAL INDIVIDUAL AT SOME POINT.
19:55:43 BUT AM SOME POINT, AS I GET TO THE POINT, I AM JUST A
19:55:44 HUMAN BEING.
19:55:47 I AM SAYING WE GOT TO COME TO SOME CONSENSUS.
19:55:50 THEY ARE GETTING STACKED BEHIND -- WHERE THEY HAVE TO
19:55:53 GO FILE TO GET THE APPROVAL TO COME HERE AND SO FORTH.
19:55:55 TO MAKE THEIR PLANS KNOWN.
19:55:58 SO WE EITHER ARE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING THIS CITY --
19:56:03 WHEN I FIRST STARTED HERE, WE HAD VERY FEW.
19:56:05 IT WAS A GHOST TOWN.
19:56:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOT NOW.
19:56:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HYDE PARK.
19:56:10 COULD YOU HAVE BOUGHT ANYTHING AT HYDE PARK FOR A
19:56:11 COUPLE OF DOLLARS.
19:56:13 I REMEMBER THE LADY -- BECAUSE SHE WAS A WONDERFUL LADY
19:56:18 THAT REPRESENTED MILDRED DITMUS THE PRESIDENT OF THE
19:56:22 ASSOCIATION BACK IN THE '70S.
19:56:25 AND THEY WERE OPPOSED TO WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT WAS, AND
19:56:28 WE TALKED AND VISIT -- SHE CAME IN LIKE IT WAS A
19:56:28 NEIGHBOR.
19:56:35 IT WAS A NEIGHBOR DISCUSSION BETWEEN ALL OF US.
19:56:38 YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY FINALLY CONCEDED IF WE DIDN'T TOUCH
19:56:41 THE LITTLE AVENUE BECAUSE OUTSIDE OF THE EXPRESSWAY
19:56:45 THERE, JUST TO THE EAST OF IT, WE -- THE DEAL WAS MADE
19:56:48 THAT THAT WOULD STAY EXACT -- NO DEVELOPMENT COULD EVER
19:56:48 CHANGE THAT.
19:56:52 AND WE WORKED DILIGENTLY AND THAT WAS -- THAT IS NOT I,
19:56:55 BUT A LOT OF COUNCIL PEOPLE THAT CAME THROUGH HERE TO
19:56:56 GET THAT DONE.
19:57:00 AND IT -- AND WHEN YOU MENTIONED OTHER AREAS, DOWNTOWN
19:57:01 WAS WHAT.
19:57:03 YOU COULD COME OUT THIS PARKING LOT.
19:57:05 MAKE A LEFT WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING.
19:57:06 DO YOU THAT NOW.
19:57:09 THAT -- NOT ONLY DO YOU GET RUN OVER.
19:57:13 THE CAR GETS RUN OVER AND EVERYTHING HITS YOU.
19:57:14 THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
19:57:16 THERE WAS NOTHING -- NOTHING HERE TO DO.
19:57:20 WE HAD A CREW AT 5:00 PICK UP THE SIDEWALKS.
19:57:23 YOU HAD TO LAY THEM DOWN BY 6:00 IN THE MORNING.
19:57:26 BUT I CANNOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRICE OF LAND.
19:57:28 THAT IS BETWEEN THE BUYER AND THE SELLER.
19:57:32 I CANNOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST OF LUMBER,
19:57:34 CONCRETE BLOCKS OR THE SALE PRICE OF A HOUSE.
19:57:36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
19:57:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY.
19:57:43 MR. MIRANDA IS RIGHT, I AM GOING TO ASK THAT YOU GIVE
19:57:47 COUNCILMEMBERS IN UPCOMING WEEKS AND LOOK AND ALSO
19:57:53 PROBABLY GET WITH PLANNING AS WELL IN REFERENCE TO
19:57:56 THESE CONTINUANCES BECAUSE MAY NEED TO BE A SEPARATE
19:57:58 DAY IF WE NEED TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY.
19:58:03 MIGHT BE ON A SEPARATE DAY VERSUS -- MR. MIRANDA IS
19:58:03 RIGHT.
19:58:06 PEOPLE WAITING TO GET IN THE DOOR AND WE KEEP KICKING
19:58:09 THEM DOWN THE ROAD AND UNFAIR FOR THOSE APPLICANTS AND
19:58:11 WE NEED FOR YOU TO GET WITH THE PROPER PEOPLE TO LOOK
19:58:15 AT THE PROPER DATE DURING THE MONTH AND LOOK AT DATES
19:58:18 FOR JUST CONTINUANCES BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO BE THE
19:58:18 CASE.
19:58:22 YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE BEING FAIR FOR
19:58:23 EVERYONE INVOLVED.
19:58:23 ALL THE CITIZENS.
19:58:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY SAY ONE THING.
19:58:30 TODAY 20% CONTINUANCES.
19:58:32 THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING, SIR.
19:58:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
19:58:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST REAL QUICK TO WRAP UP.
19:58:40 I HEARD THE COMMENTS AND THE OBJECTIONS FROM MR. SEAL,
19:58:43 WHO SPOKE VIRTUALLY AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND AND
19:58:45 SUPPORT THAT.
19:58:47 AND I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT.
19:58:50 BUT IN REGARDS TO THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE
19:58:54 NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE IS TAMPA'S FIRST SUBURB FROM
19:58:55 THE LATE 1800S.
19:58:59 IT IS NOT DESIGNATED AS YBOR CITY AS A NATIONAL
19:59:02 HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICT, BUT TAMPA HEIGHTS HAS SOME
19:59:05 OF THE OLDEST ARCHITECTURE AND HOMES IN THE CITY OF
19:59:06 TAMPA.
19:59:11 WHEN PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS OF RAPID CHANGING OF THE
19:59:12 NEIGHBORHOOD ARE.
19:59:14 I APPRECIATE A RENAISSANCE WITH ARMATURE WORKS AND
19:59:16 EVERYTHING GOING ON AROUND IT.
19:59:20 AND WE CAN'T LOSE SIGHT OF WHAT HAS BEEN THERE WELL
19:59:22 OVER A CENTURY.
19:59:22 THAT'S IT.
19:59:23 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:59:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOR THE APPLICANT, YOU MAY NOT GET A
19:59:28 VOTE OF A CONTINUANCE TONIGHT.
19:59:32 I DON'T KNOW IF THE OTHER -- HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE, BUT
19:59:33 I WILL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO HEAR
19:59:37 THAT IF THAT IS YOUR PLEASURE TO ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE,
19:59:43 SIR.
19:59:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SCHULER, YOU ARE UP.
19:59:48 >> I HAVE SPOKEN TO MY CLIENT AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE
19:59:49 A VOTE, THANK YOU.
19:59:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
20:00:00 I DON'T SEE SUSAN ON THE SCREEN.
20:00:02 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: CAN YOU NOT SEE ME?
20:00:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T SEE YOU ON OUR SCREENS.
20:00:07 WE CAN SEE YOU HOW.
20:00:10 YES, MA'AM.
20:00:12 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: ALL RIGHT, SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ,
20:00:14 SENIOR ASSISTANT ATTORNEY.
20:00:16 I WANT TO MAKE COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
20:00:19 I HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF DESIGN ELEMENTS LAND THE
20:00:22 GARAGE GOES IN THE FRONT, BACK AND WHERE THE DRIVEWAY
20:00:23 GOES.
20:00:26 DESIGN OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING IS NOT A CONSIDERATION
20:00:30 FOR COUNCIL IN EVALUATING THIS APPLICATION.
20:00:32 I HAVE HEARD COMMENT OF THE MASSING OF THE BUILDING AND
20:00:35 THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE CONSIDERATION FOR COUNCIL.
20:00:39 SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
20:00:40 AND --
20:00:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SUSAN, CAN I ASK YOU A
20:00:47 CLARIFICATION ON WHAT YOU SAID JUST NOW.
20:00:49 I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IN TERMS OF DESIGN AND
20:00:52 WINDOWS AND THE AESTHETICS AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT
20:00:55 IN TERMS OF THE OPTION MUCH PUTTING A REAR-LOADED
20:01:00 GARAGE VERSUS A FRONT-LOADED GARAGE AND HAVING, YOU
20:01:06 KNOW, THE ENACT THEY HAVE GOT, YOU KNOW, DRIVEWAYS ON
20:01:09 THIS PROPERTY FOR EIGHT -- FOR EIGHT VEHICLES COMING IN
20:01:09 AND OUT.
20:01:13 I -- I WOULD THINK THAT THOSE ARE GUEST LEGITIMATE
20:01:14 THINGS WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
20:01:17 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WHETHER IT GOES IN THE FRONT OR
20:01:19 BACK, AGAIN THE QUESTION IS --
20:01:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE TOO.
20:01:24 FRONT OR BACK.
20:01:25 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: OKAY.
20:01:28 I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I DON'T
20:01:30 WANT TO YOU GET BOGGED DOWN IN THE DESIGN ISSUE, WHAT
20:01:32 IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
20:01:35 YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MASS SOMETHING A MORE APPROPRIATE
20:01:37 CONSIDERATION FOR COUNCIL AT THIS POINT.
20:01:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT AESTHETICS BUT MASSING.
20:01:43 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: CORRECT.
20:01:46 THE NUMBER UNITS, HEIGHTS, APPROPRIATENESS WITH THE
20:01:47 NEIGHBORHOOD, COMPATIBILITY.
20:01:48 SOME.
20:01:50 THINGS YOU ADDRESSED BUT --
20:01:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, THANK YOU.
20:01:54 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YOU ARE WELCOME.
20:01:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO MOVE TO CLOSE.
20:01:57 MR. MANISCALCO HAS MOVED IT.
20:01:59 MR. MIRANDA HAS SECONDED IT.
20:02:00 ALL IN FAVOR.
20:02:01 ANY OPPOSED.
20:02:03 MR. DINGFELDER.
20:02:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
20:02:11 I AM GOING TO MOVE TO DENY -- LET ME GET ORGANIZED
20:02:13 HERE.
20:02:19 WITH REGARDS TO ITEM 7, REZ-21-56.
20:02:22 I AM GOING TO MOVE TO DENY THIS PETITION FOR THIS
20:02:29 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 31 -- 301 WEST FRANCES AVENUE,
20:02:34 PETITION FROM RM-16 TO PD FOR FOUR UNITS SPECIFICALLY
20:02:36 AS SHOWN US TO ON THE SITE PLAN.
20:02:39 MOVE TO DENY DUE TO THE FAILURE OF THE APPLICANT TO MEET THE
20:02:43 BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL
20:02:47 EVIDENCE AS CONDITION AND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS
20:02:49 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE,
20:02:53 SPECIFICALLY -- SPECIFICALLY, I BELIEVE, THAT THEY HAVE
20:02:56 FAILED TO COMPLY WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND
20:02:58 POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
20:03:03 THAT THE -- WITH GREAT EMPHASIS ON THE FACT I DO NOT
20:03:07 BELIEVE THAT THESE FOUR UNITS AS CONFIGURED IN THIS PD
20:03:09 ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING -- WITH THE
20:03:14 SURROUNDING AREA AS REQUIRED BY THE LAND USE POLICIES.
20:03:17 I BELIEVE THAT THE PROJECT ALSO FAILS TO COMPLY WITH
20:03:22 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 27-136 AND SPECIFICALLY THAT THE
20:03:25 PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN DOES NOT
20:03:28 PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE
20:03:30 FOR THIS LOCATION AS RELATED TO THE CHARACTER AND
20:03:36 COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:03:39 AND SPECIFICALLY WE HAD CONTINUE AND ACTUALLY THE
20:03:42 PETITIONER'S REPRESENTATIVE, MR. SCHULER, WHO IS A
20:03:45 REALLY STRAIGHT-UP GUY AND A VERY GOOD ARCHITECT, BY
20:03:51 THE WAY, BUT HE SHOWED US PICTURES OF TWO UNITS ON
20:03:55 60-FOOT LOTS THAT LOOK MUCH MORE COMPATIBLE AND
20:03:59 CONSISTENT WITH WHAT EXISTS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:04:05 DUPLEXES ON 60-FOOT LOTS AS OPPOSED TO FOUR UNITS.
20:04:07 AND IT IS NOT JUST THE NUMBER OF UNITS BUT THE NUMBER
20:04:10 OF UNITS TRANSLATES INTO THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES, THE
20:04:15 NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND MOST
20:04:22 IMPORTANTLY THE MASS OF THIS ENTIRE QUADRIPLEX AS MR.
20:04:26 MIRANDA POINTED OUT APPEARS TO BE 36 FEET WIDE BY ALMOST
20:04:28 100 FEET IN LENGTH.
20:04:34 AND PROBABLY THEY ARE ALLOWED UP TO 35 FEET TALL WHICH
20:04:36 MOST TOWN HOMES GO TO 35 FEET.
20:04:41 THAT IS A LARGE MASSIVE STRUCTURE FOR A 62 X
20:04:48 130-SOMETHING-FOOT LOT.
20:04:51 AGAIN, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE MASS AND SCALE ARE
20:04:52 CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING
20:04:55 NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:04:58 THERE HAVE BEEN TESTIMONY FROM SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS ONE
20:05:02 OF WHICH LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT 30 YEARS AS
20:05:06 RELATED TO THE INCOMPATIBILITY.
20:05:09 AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO ADD ON TO WHAT I SAID, I AM
20:05:13 MORE THAN WELCOME TO ACCEPT FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS.
20:05:15 THAT IS MY MOTION.
20:05:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU I WILL SECOND THAT.
20:05:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
20:05:22 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:05:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
20:05:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
20:05:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
20:05:28 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
20:05:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
20:05:32 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
20:05:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE
20:05:34 RECOGNIZED.
20:05:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNTY ATTORNEY.
20:05:40 TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF ISSUES THAT CAME UP.
20:05:42 AN APPEALS PERIOD THAT FOLLOWS THIS DENIAL.
20:05:46 I ASK TO YOU REMAIN MINDFUL OF THAT FOR THE 30-DAY
20:05:49 APPEAL PERIOD TO AVOID ANY DISCUSSION WITH MEMBERS OF
20:05:51 THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS.
20:05:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
20:05:58 ITEM NUMBER 8.
20:06:00 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH, ZANE HUSSEIN, DEVELOPMENT
20:06:01 COORDINATION.
20:06:07 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, CASE REZ-21-64.
20:06:12 PROPERTY LOCATED 3602 WEST AZEELE STREET FROM RS-60 TO
20:06:14 PD, OFFICE, BUSINESS OR PROFESSIONAL.
20:06:16 I WILL PASS IT ALONG TO DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING
20:06:22 COMMISSION.
20:06:24 >>DANNY COLLINS: DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING
20:06:24 COMMISSION STAFF.
20:06:26 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
20:06:30 OUR NEXT CASE IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND
20:06:34 MORE SPECIFICALLY THE BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:06:38 THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL WEST PINE PARK LOCATED ONE
20:06:40 MILE TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
20:06:44 THE CLOSEST TRANSIT IS QUARTER MILE WEST OF THE SITE ON
20:06:46 SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
20:06:50 SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY IS A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR
20:06:56 AND LEVEL D EVACUATION ZONE FOR SUBJECT SITE.
20:06:59 AREA MAP OF THE SUBJECTS SITE AND PROPERTY LOCATED ON
20:07:02 THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST AZEELE STREET AND SOUTH
20:07:04 HIMES AVENUE.
20:07:07 YOU WILL SEE PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL USES THAT
20:07:09 SURROUND THE SUBJECT SITE.
20:07:13 NONRESIDENTIAL USES SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON S.
20:07:15 HIMES AVENUE.
20:07:20 HERE IS THE ADOPT FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
20:07:24 SITES UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE
20:07:26 DESIGNATION.
20:07:29 THE RESIDENTIAL 20 TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE SITE.
20:07:30 RESIDENTIAL-10 TO THE SOUTH AND RESIDENTIAL-35
20:07:34 CORRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
20:07:35 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE
20:07:38 PROPOSED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS COMPARABLE AND
20:07:42 COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND
20:07:46 WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATON
20:07:48 AND A LIMITED NUMBER OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL
20:07:51 USES ALLOWED IN THIS STORY AND THE PROJECT MEETS
20:07:55 LOCATIONAL CRITERIA FOR RESIDENTIAL OFFICE USES.
20:07:57 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
20:08:00 COMMERCIAL LOCATION CRITERIA AND FOUND THE SUBJECT SITE
20:08:02 MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR CONSIDERATION.
20:08:05 SUBJECT SITE LOCATED ALONG WEST AZEELE STREET
20:08:10 DESIGNATED AS AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY FOR THE NONEXISTING
20:08:15 ZONING ADJACENT TO THE SITE ON THE NORTH AND EAST AND
20:08:20 NONRESIDENTIAL ZONING FURTHER WEST ON WEST AZEELE
20:08:22 STREET.
20:08:24 NEW DEVELOPMENT SIDEWALKS IN THE AREA WHERE PRACTICAL
20:08:28 AND FEASIBLE FOR PEDESTRIAN-ORIENTED ACTIVITIES.
20:08:31 THE SUBJECT SITE HAS PROVIDED -- SORRY, THE PLANNED
20:08:34 DEVELOPMENT HAS PROVIDED FOR PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION FOR
20:08:37 THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING TO THE SIDEWALK ALONG
20:08:40 S. HIMES AVENUE WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THIS POLICY
20:08:41 DIRECTION.
20:08:43 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
20:08:45 STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF
20:08:47 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
20:08:48 THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
20:08:51 I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
20:08:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
20:08:55 ALL RIGHT, ZANE.
20:09:00 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ZANE HUSSEIN, LAND
20:09:01 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
20:09:05 APPLICANT IS ESI PROPERTIES LCC.
20:09:08 PROPERTY 3602 WEST AZEELE STREET.
20:09:13 FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO PD, OFFICE,
20:09:14 BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL.
20:09:18 THERE HAVE BEEN THREE WAIVERS REQUESTED AS YOU CAN SEE.
20:09:25 THE FIRST IS 27-160 FOR THE SOUTH HIMES SPECIAL SETBACK
20:09:29 FROM 45 FEET TO 40 FEET TO ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE ON
20:09:31 THE PROPERTY.
20:09:33 IT IS MEASURED FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE EXISTING
20:09:35 RIGHT-OF-WAY.
20:09:43 THE WAIVER REQUEST IN NUMBER TWO, 27.284.4 D FOR
20:09:46 PAYMENT INTO THE TREE TRUST FUND FOR APPLICATION OF THE
20:09:48 TREES THAT CANNOT BE PLANTED ON-SITE.
20:09:55 WAIVER NUMBER 3, 284.3.3 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED BUFFER
20:09:58 FROM THE REQUIRED 15 FEET TO 5 FEET TO THE SOUTH AND TO
20:09:59 THE WEST.
20:10:02 THIS SHOULD BE ADDED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
20:10:05 AS WE LOOK AT THE OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE AERIAL, YOU WILL
20:10:09 SEE THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED HERE IN RED.
20:10:12 THE POINT OF THE PROPOSED REZONING IS TO ALLOW FOR THE
20:10:17 CONSTRUCTION OF A 1818-SQUARE-FOOT STRUCTURE WITH A
20:10:21 PROPOSED USE OF BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
20:10:26 THE TOTAL SITE CONSISTENCY OF 7414 SQUARE FEET.
20:10:29 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED HERE AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF
20:10:30 WEST AZEELE STREET.
20:10:33 AND S. HIMES AVENUE.
20:10:35 RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH.
20:10:38 VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON S. HIMES
20:10:42 AVENUE WITH A SURFACE PARKING LOT.
20:10:46 THE SITE HERE IS LOCATED SURROUNDED BY PLANNED
20:10:50 DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING DISTRICT FOR RO USES AND MEDICAL
20:10:53 OFFICE TO THE NORTH.
20:10:56 PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE
20:10:59 FAMILY DETACHED TO THE SOUTH.
20:11:02 AS MY CURSOR POINT TO.
20:11:07 ZONING DISTRICT FOR MEDICAL OFFICE TO THE EAST.
20:11:09 AS YOU SIGH HERE.
20:11:13 AND YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY USE IN THE RS-60
20:11:17 ZONING DISTRICT TO THE WEST SURROUNDING THE SITE.
20:11:20 IF YOU LOOK AT OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE SITE PLAN HERE,
20:11:26 YOU WILL SEE THE PROPOSED OFFICE SPACE LOCATED AND THEN
20:11:28 ALSO THE PARKING LOT.
20:11:34 WEST AZEELE STREET RUNNING OVERHEAD TO THE NORTH.
20:11:37 WENT OUT TO THE SITE AND TOOK PICTURES OF THE CURRENT
20:11:40 STATE AND WHERE IT IS LOCATED.
20:11:42 YOU CAN SEE THE STRUCTURE RIGHT HERE ON THE SITE.
20:11:45 TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE THE PLANNED
20:11:48 DEVELOPMENT PD TO THE NORTH, AND ALSO YOU WILL SEE THE
20:11:50 INTERSECTION OF SOUTH HIMES.
20:11:54 AND WEST AZEELE STREET HERE.
20:11:58 TO THE EAST OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE THE -- YOU WILL
20:12:01 SEE THE STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND MEDICAL
20:12:04 OFFICE USE TO THE EAST.
20:12:08 AND THEN TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE, ALSO,
20:12:12 THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOMES TO THE
20:12:15 SOUTH.
20:12:17 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
20:12:20 THE APPLICATION AND FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH
20:12:22 THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
20:12:25 SHOULD BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
20:12:28 FOR THE MODIFICATIONS MUST BE MADE TO THE SITE PLAN
20:12:29 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
20:12:30 THANK YOU.
20:12:33 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
20:12:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
20:12:40 HEARING NONE, WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
20:12:42 >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
20:12:51 MY NAME IS TOM SZUMLIC, 619 LUZON AVENUE, FLORIDA,
20:12:56 33606.
20:12:58 BASED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ZONING STAFF, WE
20:13:01 FEEL THERE IS NOTHING MORE WE CAN ADD TO THIS EXCEPT TO
20:13:03 ASK OR ANSWER QUESTIONS.
20:13:06 AND WE THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROCESS.
20:13:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
20:13:12 HEARING NONE.
20:13:15 I CAN ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR FOR THIS ITEM NUMBER
20:13:27 8?
20:13:31 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: THERE IS NO ONE HERE.
20:13:34 >> WE WANT TO GET TO THE BUCS GAME.
20:13:38 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, PLANNING AND GROWTH.
20:13:39 NOBODY HERE.
20:13:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY REGISTERED.
20:13:45 >>CLERK: NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
20:13:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED.
20:13:51 OKAY, MR. DINGFELDER -- MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE UP.
20:13:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:13:58 ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE NUMBER REZ-21-64.
20:14:05 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE ON REZ-21-64 FOR APPROVAL.
20:14:11 AND THE APPLICANT MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF OF THE
20:14:14 DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
20:14:20 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CITY COLD AND THAT THE WAIVERS DO
20:14:24 NOT HAVE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE.
20:14:26 THE PROPOSED ZONING IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH
20:14:30 THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND ITS CLOSE
20:14:33 PROXIMITY -- IT IS IN THE CORNER WHERE THE TRAFFIC IS
20:14:38 GOING TO GO ON HIMES.
20:14:40 AND THAT'S ABOUT IT, SIR.
20:14:45 THE WAIVERS -- THE DESIGN WAIVERS MEET 139.4 AND THE
20:14:49 WAIVER IS UNIQUE AND IN NEED OF WAIVERS.
20:14:52 AND SHOULD NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE OR ENSURE THE
20:14:54 RIGHTS OF THIS PROPERTY AND WILL NOT EFFECT -- ARE NOT
20:14:57 AFFECTED BY THE WAIVER.
20:14:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO HAS SECONDED IT.
20:15:00 ROLL CALL VOTE.
20:15:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:15:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
20:15:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
20:15:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
20:15:08 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
20:15:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
20:15:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
20:15:15 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, SECOND READING AND
20:15:20 ADOPTION, SEPTEMBER 30 AT 9:30 A.M.
20:15:24 >> THANK YOU.
20:15:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
20:15:27 MOVE ON TO ITEM 9.
20:15:31 REZ-21-65.
20:15:32 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
20:15:35 ZANE HUSSEIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
20:15:39 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, CASE REZ-21-65.
20:15:45 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3018 NORTH TAMPA STREET FROM RS-50
20:15:48 TO PD, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
20:15:50 I WILL PASS IT ALONG TO DANNY COLLINS, THE PLANNING
20:15:55 COMMISSION.
20:15:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. COLLINS.
20:16:06 >>DANNY COLLINS: CAN YOU SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
20:16:08 THIS IS DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
20:16:09 STAFF.
20:16:11 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
20:16:16 THE NEXT CASE THE TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND THE TAMPA
20:16:18 HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALSO IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
20:16:20 URBAN VILLAGE.
20:16:24 THE CLOSEST RECREATION FACILITY IS PLYMOUTH PLAYGROUND
20:16:27 LOCATED TWO BLOCKS WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
20:16:31 THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS THREE BLOCKS NORTH OF THE
20:16:33 SITE ON NORTH TAMPA STREET.
20:16:39 THE SUBJECTED SITE IS WITHIN A LEVEL D EVACUATION ZONE.
20:16:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DANNY, CAN YOU GO BACK?
20:16:42 >>DANNY COLLINS: SORRY.
20:16:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GO BACK ONE SLIDE.
20:16:46 WHENEVER YOU SLOW UP THAT SLIDE.
20:16:48 ARE YOU USING YOUR CURSOR TO SHOW YOU WHERE THE PROJECT
20:16:51 IS OR JUST SHOWING US THE WHOLE CITY?
20:16:55 >>DANNY COLLINS: NO, THIS IS THE VISION MAP FOR THE
20:16:57 CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICTS.
20:16:59 SO JUST KIND OF SHOW YOU THE PLANNING DISTRICT.
20:17:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
20:17:03 YOU WANT TO USE YOUR CURSOR TO SHOW -- APPROXIMATELY
20:17:07 WHERE THIS IS?
20:17:10 >>DANNY COLLINS: YEAH, IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN
20:17:14 VILLAGE, SO IT IS -- IT WOULD BE IN THIS AREA RIGHT
20:17:14 HERE.
20:17:19 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE MY CURSOR.
20:17:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, WE CAN SEE.
20:17:23 >>DANNY COLLINS: IT WOULD BE IN THIS AREA OVER HERE.
20:17:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
20:17:26 >>DANNY COLLINS: YEP.
20:17:29 THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND
20:17:30 SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
20:17:34 THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN THIS PURPLE COLOR ON
20:17:40 THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF NORTH TAMPA STREET AND UDALE
20:17:43 STREETS.
20:17:46 NONRESIDENTIAL USES TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE
20:17:48 TOWARD NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE WHICH IS A TRANSIT
20:17:51 CORRIDOR.
20:17:56 HERE IS -- THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
20:18:00 RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
20:18:07 TO THE WEST OF THIS SITE ONE PARCEL OVER IS PARCELS
20:18:10 UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-10 DESIGNATION.
20:18:15 ONE BLOCK EAST IS SHOWN IN THE RED COLOR IS PARCELS
20:18:21 UNDER A THE CCU-35 FUTURE LAND USE NORTH FLORIDA
20:18:23 AVENUE ONE BLOCK TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
20:18:25 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
20:18:27 APPLICATION AND FOUND IN AVERSION IMPACTS IN THE
20:18:28 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:18:31 THE REQUEST PROPOSED IS FOUR ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY
20:18:35 UNITS AND OVERALL DENSITY OF 16 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH
20:18:38 IS BELOW THE DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL
20:18:42 20 LAND USE DESIGNATION.
20:18:46 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAVE ORIENTATION OF A FRONT DOOR
20:18:50 TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIDEWALK AND STREET.
20:18:52 THE ENTRANCE IS TO THE UNITS MEET THIS POLICY DIRECTION
20:18:57 AS THEY ARE ORIENTED TO THE STREET AND CONNECTS TO THE
20:19:02 PUBLIC SIDEWALK ON WEST ADALIA STREET.
20:19:04 AND MEET POLICIES IN THE COMP PLAN OF HOUSING THE
20:19:06 CITY'S POPULATION.
20:19:10 EXPECT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON
20:19:17 VACANT AND UNOCCUPIED LAND TO HELP MEET THE FUTURE
20:19:20 POPULATIONS AND HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE TAMPA
20:19:22 HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE AS WELL.
20:19:25 BASE $ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
20:19:27 STAFF FINDS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
20:19:28 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
20:19:31 THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR
20:19:31 ANY QUESTIONS.
20:19:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. COLLINS?
20:19:35 HEARING NONE.
20:19:37 MR. HA HUSSEIN.
20:19:40 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: ZANE HUSSEIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
20:19:47 MAY I HAVE CONTROL OF THE SCREEN?
20:19:48 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
20:19:53 ZANE HUSSEIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, CASE REZ-21-65.
20:19:58 THE APPLICANT AND REPRESENTATIVE IS JOSEPH BUONODONO.
20:19:59 DOING MY BEST.
20:20:03 THE PROPERTY ADDRESS 3018 NORTH TAMPA STREET.
20:20:06 PROPOSE PROPOSED RS-50 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY TO
20:20:10 PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
20:20:11 ATTACHED.
20:20:15 ONE WAIVER REQUESTED FOR APPLICABLE TREE TRUST FUND FOR
20:20:18 MITIGATION OF TREES THAT CANNOT BE PLANTED ON-SITE.
20:20:23 AS WE SEE THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY, OUTLINED
20:20:29 HERE IN RED, YOU WILL SEE EAST AND WEST ADALE STREET TO
20:20:29 THE NORTH.
20:20:31 RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH TO THE EAST.
20:20:33 YOU WILL HAVE NORTH TAMPA STREET.
20:20:40 TO THE SOUTH, YOU WILL HAVE WEST FLORIBRASKA AND WEST
20:20:41 ALFRED STREET.
20:20:46 AND TO THE WEST NORTH OLA AVENUE RUNNING TO THE WEST.
20:20:50 AS WE COME HERE LOOKING AT THE OVERHEAD VIEW SITE PLAN,
20:20:53 YOU WILL SEE THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING IS TO CONSTRUCT
20:20:57 FOUR -- ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR -- RESIDENTIAL
20:20:59 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLING UNITS.
20:21:03 THE SITE AT .25 ACRES FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE
20:21:07 SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BEST ADALE STREET AND NORTH TAMPA
20:21:08 STREET.
20:21:09 RIGHT HERE.
20:21:11 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
20:21:16 USES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST IN THE RS-50
20:21:22 ZONING DISTRICT.
20:21:27 THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED FOR ONE THREE-STORY TOWN HOUSE
20:21:30 RESIDENTIAL BUILDING WITH A ROOFTOP TERRACE WITH A
20:21:33 TOTAL OF FOUR DWELLING UNITS RUNNING ADJACENT TO EACH
20:21:34 OTHER.
20:21:38 THE DEVELOPMENT IS ORIENTED TOWARD WEST ADALE STREET
20:21:41 AND NORTH TAMPA STREET AND HELP TO PROVIDE A SUITABLE
20:21:46 BUFFER TO THE USES MAJORLY TO THE WEST OF IT.
20:21:47 COME HERE.
20:21:50 EACH UNIT PROVIDES A FRONT DOOR FACING THE NORTH WITH
20:21:53 PEDESTRIAN ACCESS CONNECTION TO THE SIDEWALK ALONG WEST
20:21:57 ADALE STREET RIGHT HERE.
20:22:02 THE -- THE VEHICULAR ACCESS IS PROVIDED ON WEST ADALE
20:22:06 STREET ALSO AND EACH UNIT CONTAINS AN ENCLOSED TWO-CAR
20:22:09 GARAGE WITHIN EACH UNIT.
20:22:12 THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 40 FEET AND A
20:22:15 TOTAL OF NINE PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND NINE
20:22:20 PARKING SPACES ARE PROPOSED HERE.
20:22:23 AS I WENT OUT TO THE SITE AND TOOK PICTURES OF THE
20:22:25 CURRENT STATE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
20:22:28 AND THEN TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE
20:22:30 THOSE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES I WAS MENTIONING
20:22:37 THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH TAMPA AND WEST ADALE STREET.
20:22:39 TO THE WEST OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE THE RESIDENTIAL
20:22:42 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES RUNNING ALONG TO THE WEST.
20:22:45 AND TO THE NORTH, YOU WILL SEE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE
20:22:49 FAMILY HOME ACROSS THE STREET FROM NORTH ADALE STREET.
20:22:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ZANE, HOLDS ONE SECOND.
20:22:54 THE ONE SAYS "WEST OF THE SITE."
20:22:58 IS THAT A NEW TWO-FAMILY HOME?
20:23:02 IT LOOKS MORE TWO-FAMILY THAN SINGLE-FAMILY.
20:23:05 IT LOOKS LIKE A SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
20:23:06 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: NO, SIR.
20:23:12 IT ACTUALLY IS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
20:23:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS IT REALLY?
20:23:16 OKAY.
20:23:19 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF
20:23:22 FINDS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
20:23:22 DEVELOPMENT CODE.
20:23:25 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY DOWN APPROVE THE
20:23:29 APPLICATION, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN
20:23:32 MUST BE CORRECTED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
20:23:34 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU NEED IT.
20:23:35 THANK YOU.
20:23:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR.
20:23:38 HUSSEIN.
20:23:41 MR. VIERA, ARE YOU GOOD?
20:23:42 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
20:23:44 THANK YOU, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
20:23:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
20:23:48 ALL RIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE PETITIONER.
20:23:50 >>CLERK: HE IS ONLINE.
20:23:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. GRALES.
20:23:58 HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN?
20:24:00 >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
20:24:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE NEED -- YOU NEED TO HIT YOUR
20:24:04 VOLUME THERE.
20:24:05 >> NOT SIR, YET.
20:24:06 MY APOLOGIES.
20:24:10 >>CLERK: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
20:24:15 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH AND
20:24:16 NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
20:24:16 >> I DO.
20:24:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CARRY ON.
20:24:25 >> WEST CYPRESS STREET IN TAMPA, AND I HAVE
20:24:25 BEEN SWORN IN.
20:24:28 I AM PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND
20:24:31 AN ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR THIS PROJECT.
20:24:34 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT BEFORE THIS.
20:24:35 BEFORE YOU THIS REZONING CASE.
20:24:39 I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL MEMBERS OF THE STAFF FOR THEIR
20:24:46 HELP AND SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THIS REZONING PROCESS MR.
20:24:50 JOSEPH BUONODONO WITH BRICK AND MORTAR CONSTRUCTION IS
20:24:52 HOPING TO DEVELOP THIS PROPER WITH FOUR SINGLE-FAMILY
20:24:58 ATTACHED UNIT WITH REAR ACCESS OF TWO-CAR GARAGES.
20:25:01 MR. BUONODONO PROACTIVELY CONTACTED THE NEIGHBORS
20:25:03 SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY AND DESCRIBED THE PLAN AND HIS
20:25:07 VISION OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
20:25:11 ON AUGUST 26 OF THIS YEAR, WE PRESENTED THE PROPOSED
20:25:15 SITE PLAN AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS TO THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
20:25:17 CIVIC ASSOCIATION IN THEIR MONTHLY MEETING.
20:25:22 WE RECEIVED POSITIVE REVIEWED, SPECIFICALLY WE RECEIVED
20:25:25 COMMENTS OF APPRECIATION FOR PROVIDING A DESIGN WITH
20:25:29 VEHICULAR ACCESS AND PARKING AT THE BACK OF THE LOT AND
20:25:34 MAKING THE FRONT FACADE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
20:25:36 TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION ALSO INDICATING THAT
20:25:42 NOT HAVING FRONT-FACING GARAGES IS A KEY NEIGHBORHOOD
20:25:43 VALUE.
20:25:47 IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC
20:25:50 ASSOCIATION YOU BOARD REQUESTED SOME ADDITIONAL
20:25:55 FEATURES TO THE BUILDING TO INTEGRATE THE SIDE FACADE
20:26:00 AND IMPROVE THE PEDESTRIAN APPEAL ALONG TAMPA STREET.
20:26:03 TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION DID NOT TAKE AN
20:26:07 OFFICIAL POSITION ON THIS REZONING APPLICATION.
20:26:11 IN THE REPORT OF REZONING REQUEST, ALL DEPARTMENTS AND
20:26:15 AGENCIES ARE PREVIOUSLY INDICATED BY STAFF ON THE SITE
20:26:18 PLAN CONSISTENT.
20:26:24 I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THE REZONING OF
20:26:26 BRICK AND MORTAR AND DEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITH FOUR
20:26:29 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UNIT.
20:26:34 MR. BUONODONO, WHO IS THE OWNER-PARTNER OF BRICK AND
20:26:40 MORTAR IS ALSO AVAILABLE TO -- IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY
20:26:44 QUESTIONS, AS WELL AS JOHN SKINNER WHO IS THE ARCHITECT
20:26:45 FOR THIS PROJECT.
20:26:48 MR. BUONODONO, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANY INFORMATION ABOUT
20:26:52 THIS PROJECT AND YOUR POSITION?
20:26:53 >> WELL, I WOULD --
20:26:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. BUONODONO, HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN?
20:26:58 >> I AM SORRY, NO, I HAVE NOT.
20:27:00 >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
20:27:03 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE
20:27:05 WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
20:27:05 >> I DO.
20:27:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
20:27:07 CONTINUE ON, SIR.
20:27:08 >> ALL RIGHT.
20:27:09 THANK YOU.
20:27:12 WELL, WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY LAST YEAR.
20:27:16 IT WAS A FORECLOSURE WHICH I HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS
20:27:19 IT WAS -- QUOTE, UNQUOTE, FORMER CRACK HOUSE THAT I
20:27:21 GUESS HAD BEEN TORN DOWN.
20:27:24 LIKE I SAID, WE PURCHASED IT FROM BANK OF AMERICA.
20:27:27 AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE PROPERTY WAS BEING USED,
20:27:31 YOU KNOW, TO PARK ABANDONED VEHICLES AND FOR -- YOU
20:27:37 KNOW, FOR DRUG USE AND -- AND PROPERTY WITH THE INTENT
20:27:40 AND VISION OF BUILDING TOWN HOMES DUE TO THE PROXIMITY
20:27:42 OF THE PROPERTY ON TAMPA STREET.
20:27:46 YOU KNOWING ABOUT A THREE-LANE ROAD.
20:27:48 I HAVE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MYSELF FOR OVER TEN
20:27:49 YEARS.
20:27:56 AND UNDERSTAND THE -- THE SOME NEW DEVELOPMENT.
20:27:59 BUT I FEEL ON TAMPA STREET IT IS REALLY THE BEST
20:28:01 SOLUTION FOR THE PROPERTY.
20:28:03 WE ARE, YOU KNOW, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE
20:28:09 NEIGHBORS WITH -- WITH HAVING NOT ONLY FRONT PORCHES ON
20:28:13 THE FIRST -- BUILDINGS LIKE HE SAID, WE HAVE PARKING IN
20:28:14 THE REAR.
20:28:19 THE BEST FEATURE IS ROOFTOP TERRACE THAT OVERLOOKS
20:28:19 DOWNTOWN.
20:28:21 SO WE FEEL LIKE THIS PROJECT IS REALLY GOING TO BE A
20:28:25 BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO THE COMMUNITY.
20:28:28 TO PROPERTY VALUES AND WE ARE HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR
20:28:29 SUPPORT.
20:28:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
20:28:41 >> AND JOHN KENNER WITH KENNER, ARCHITECT FOR THIS
20:28:43 PROJECT IS AVAILABLE IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR
20:28:47 MR. KENNER.
20:28:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYBODY HAVE ANY ARCHITECTURAL
20:28:53 QUESTIONS?
20:28:54 DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ANY.
20:28:59 DO YOU WANT TO WRAP UP?
20:29:05 >> THANK YOU.
20:29:05 >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
20:29:09 I WILL BE HOPE THAT RESPOND ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
20:29:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
20:29:14 FOR ANY OF THESE.
20:29:18 DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET -- SO -- SO THESE GARAGES
20:29:23 ARE GOING TO BE FACING ADELAIDE, CORRECT?
20:29:25 >> NO, SIR.
20:29:29 THESE GARAGES WILL BE FACING SOUTH TO THE REAR --
20:29:32 TOWARD THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
20:29:33 AND.
20:29:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE AN ALLEY THERE?
20:29:38 >> NO, SIR.
20:29:41 I BELIEVE THERE USED TO BE AN ALLEY THERE BUT IT HAS
20:29:42 BEEN VACATED.
20:29:47 SO THE ANSWER IS, NO, WE ARE NOT -- WE ARE NOT USING --
20:29:50 THERE IS NO -- THERE IS NOT AN EXISTING ALLEY THAT WE
20:29:53 CAN USE FOR ACCESS TO THE SOUTH -- ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF
20:29:54 THE PROPERTY.
20:29:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE, BUT WHERE ARE
20:30:00 THE CARS COMING IN AND OUT OF.
20:30:02 ARE THEY COMING OUT OF TAMPA --
20:30:03 >> SURE.
20:30:06 NO, THAT -- THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
20:30:08 MR. COUNCILMAN.
20:30:14 THE CARS -- THEY ARE CONNECTING -- IF
20:30:18 YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN THAT WE -- THE PLAN THAT WE
20:30:29 SUBMITTED, WE HAVE WE ARE PROPOSING A RESIDENTIAL CURB
20:30:34 CUT ON ADELAIDE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
20:30:39 THE CARS WILL BE ENTERING FROM ADELAIDE STREET AND
20:30:42 TRAVEL SOUTH ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPER PROPERTY
20:30:44 AND THEN EAST ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY
20:30:51 UNTIL THEY ENTER THE GARAGES ON THE REAR SIDE OF -- THE
20:30:52 REAR OF THE TOWN HOME UNITS.
20:30:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOT IT.
20:30:54 THANK YOU.
20:30:56 I DIDN'T SEE THAT FLOW OF TRAFFIC.
20:31:01 BUT YOU STILL MAINTAIN -- YOU WILL MAINTAIN A BUFFER ON
20:31:03 THE WEST SIDE FOR YOUR WEST SIDE NEIGHBOR?
20:31:06 >> NOT ONLY TO THE WEST -- TO THE WEST SIDE NEIGHBOR
20:31:09 BUT ALSO TO THE SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBOR WE ARE PROVIDING A
20:31:13 CONSIDERABLY SEPARATION -- BUILDING SEPARATION BETWEEN
20:31:17 THE PROPOSED TOWN HOMES AND THE PROPERTY LINE.
20:31:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
20:31:21 ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT WANT TO
20:31:22 SPEAK FOR THIS.
20:31:26 >>CLERK: NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
20:31:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
20:31:32 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, PLANNING AND GROWTH
20:31:33 MANAGEMENT.
20:31:35 TWO PEOPLE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
20:31:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
20:31:39 LINE THEM UP.
20:31:40 AND MA'AM --
20:31:42 >> SORRY.
20:31:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ASK TO YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND
20:31:44 SWEAR YOU IN.
20:31:47 >> HI, I HAVE ALREADY BEEN SWORN IN.
20:31:50 MY NAME IS TAYLOR WOLF.
20:31:51 NORTH TAMPA STREET.
20:31:55 THAT BLUE HOUSE YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT EARLIER.
20:31:57 THIS WILL DIRECTLY AFFECT ME.
20:32:00 I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE PROPERTY.
20:32:04 FOUR UNITS KIND OF SEEMS LARGE.
20:32:11 AND YOU WERE JUST SPEAKING ABOUT ACCESS FOR THE CARS,
20:32:15 SO ADELAIDE IS ALREADY A NARROW STREET AN ONE OF THE
20:32:17 OLDER STREETS, BRICK STREETS.
20:32:19 AND IT IS NOT REALLY WELL PAVED.
20:32:21 THEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MORE TRAFFIC.
20:32:25 I AM NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THIS IN GENERAL, BUT I
20:32:29 WOULD LIKE TO HEAR BETTER OPTIONS OR MAYBE TWO UNITS
20:32:32 INSTEAD OF FOUR, BECAUSE I AM NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THAT
20:32:36 BUFFER IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR THE CARS TO GET IN AND
20:32:37 OUT.
20:32:38 IT IS PRETTY CLOSE NOW.
20:32:41 HE SPOKE EARLIER OF IT BEING USED FOR CRACK USE.
20:32:44 THAT IS NOT HAPPENING CURRENTLY.
20:32:45 I LIVED THERE FOR A YEAR.
20:32:46 I AM A TAMPA NATIVE.
20:32:48 AND THERE IS A OAK TREE ON THE PROPERTY.
20:32:50 IT IS A PROTECTED TREE.
20:32:51 DOES THAT GET REMOVED AS WELL?
20:32:56 BECAUSE I HAVE AN OAK TREE THAT I CAN'T MOVE EITHER
20:32:58 NEXT ON MY EASEMENT.
20:33:02 AND ALSO, IF THERE WERE GUSH GUYS DO CONTINUE -- IF YOU
20:33:06 GUYS DO ALLOW IT TO BE DONE, IS THIS GOING TO BE USED
20:33:09 FOR RENTALS?
20:33:12 IS IT -- YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING THAT.
20:33:13 AIRBNBS?
20:33:15 BECAUSE I HAVE A FEW -- NOT ME PERSONALLY BUT A FEW
20:33:18 AIRBNBS FURTHER DOWN THE STREET.
20:33:20 I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THAT IS WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE
20:33:21 USED FOR.
20:33:24 IF NOT, IS THERE GOING TO BE A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION
20:33:28 FOR THE TOWN HOUSES THAT RULES HAVE TO BE UPHELD.
20:33:34 JUST SOME GENERAL QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO
20:33:36 EFFECT ME BECAUSE I LIVE NEXT DOOR.
20:33:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WAY NEXT DOOR.
20:33:40 ARE YOU ACROSS THE STREET TO THESE OR TO THE SIDE.
20:33:41 >> TO THE SIDE.
20:33:43 I LIVE ON NORTH TAMPA STREET.
20:33:45 MY HOUSE IS RIGHT HERE.
20:33:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TO THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT?
20:33:51 >> TO THE LEFT OF THE PROPERTY, I THINK.
20:33:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE NORTH SIDE.
20:33:55 >> THE BLUE HOUSE YOU ASKED ABOUT EARLIER WITH THE
20:33:56 FENCE.
20:33:57 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECALL SEEING THAT.
20:33:59 THE STREET IS NARROW AND ONE WAY.
20:34:02 I AM TRYING TO IMAGINE WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL
20:34:05 BRING IF YOU HAVE FOUR UNITS AND ALSO THE PARKING SPACE
20:34:06 IS QUESTIONABLE AS WELL.
20:34:12 I AM NOT SUPER OPPOSED TO IT BUT MAYBE TWO UNITS LIKE
20:34:17 YOU SPOKE OF LIKE THE OTHER ONE AT ARMATURE WORKS.
20:34:21 I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST NEW THINGS COMING TO THE
20:34:24 NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IF IT IS GOING TO DIRECTLY EFFECT ME,
20:34:25 THEN I HAVE QUESTIONS.
20:34:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE WILL TRY TO GET ANSWERS TO YOUR
20:34:32 QUESTIONS WHEN THE GENTLEMAN COMES BACK.
20:34:34 YOU CAN WATCH FROM THE OTHER ROOM AND WE WILL HEAR FROM
20:34:36 THE OTHER PERSON.
20:34:37 THANK YOU.
20:34:43 >> THANK YOU.
20:34:49 >> GOOD EVENING, BRIAN SEEL, 313 WEST PARK AVENUE.
20:34:51 YOU ARE NOT SEEING THINGS.
20:34:54 I AM PHYSICALLY IN PERSON AFTER PUTTING MY KIDS TO BED
20:34:58 BECAUSE I DID NOT REREGISTER FOR THIS VIRTUALLY.
20:35:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE LAST TIME WE SAW YOU, YOU WERE
20:35:03 LOCKED IN THE CLOSET.
20:35:04 >> THEY LET ME OUT.
20:35:08 BUT I WANTED TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK ON THIS ON MY OWN
20:35:08 BEHALF.
20:35:12 NOT ON TRAFFIC OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
20:35:13 HE WAS ACCURATE IN THE STATEMENT.
20:35:15 OUR BOARD DID NOT TAKE A POSITION.
20:35:19 WE HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY WITH A LOT OF ACTIVE REZONINGS
20:35:20 IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:35:23 WHAT I CAN SAY THAT THE BOARD WAS SPLIT ON THIS ONE.
20:35:24 THERE WERE SOME IN FAVOR.
20:35:25 SOME OPPOSED.
20:35:28 SO NO ACTION WAS TAKEN.
20:35:33 BUT PERSONALLY, HE ALSO MENTIONED WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE
20:35:37 REAR ENTRY AS OPPOSED TO FRONT-FACING GARAGES.
20:35:40 UPHOLDS THE CONSISTENCY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN
20:35:43 WHICH IS GREAT, BUT WE GET INTO THE ISSUE SIMILAR TO
20:35:49 THE LAST CASE AND PRECEDENCE IN A MAYOR UPZONING.
20:35:52 RS-50 ZONE AND PD.
20:35:57 UPZONING TO ALLOW FOUR UNITS WITH A GREATER DENSITY IN
20:36:00 A SINGLE-FAMILY OWN AREA.
20:36:03 WE WELCOME FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD DENSITY WHERE IT IS ZONED
20:36:05 FOR SUCH AND APPROPRIATE.
20:36:07 THE ONE THING THIS PROPERTY IS GOING FOR IT IS ON NORTH
20:36:08 TAMPA STREET.
20:36:10 A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN BEING INTERIOR TO
20:36:13 THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I PERSONALLY DO NOT THINK THE
20:36:18 DENSITY IS APPROPRIATE TO THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
20:36:20 AND I WILL LEAVE MY COMMENTS WITH THAT.
20:36:23 AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
20:36:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. SEEL.
20:36:28 ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SEAL?
20:36:30 NOT HEARING ANY.
20:36:35 WE WILL HEAR BACK FROM THE PETITIONER IN REBUTTAL.
20:36:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, MARTIN
20:36:40 SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
20:36:45 I WANTED TO ADDRESS COUNCIL VERY BRIEFLY AND I DON'T
20:36:49 KNOW IF MISS SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING,
20:36:53 BUT THE QUESTIONS RAISED AND IS BEFORE YOU AND THE
20:36:56 ISSUE OF RENTALS AND AIRBNB ARE NOT RELEVANT TO YOUR
20:36:58 DECISION.
20:37:01 SO -- IT WOULD BE ADVISED FOR THE PETITIONER TO NOT
20:37:04 HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT DIRECTLY BECAUSE THAT DOES NOT
20:37:06 APPLY TO YOUR DECISION.
20:37:09 AND MY -- THIS IS BY WAY OF EXPLANATION.
20:37:16 MY APOLOGIES TO THE SPEAKER WHO WANTED THOSE ANSWERS.
20:37:19 THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS
20:37:20 HEARING.
20:37:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
20:37:24 AND -- I APPRECIATE THAT.
20:37:25 COUNCIL APPRECIATES THAT.
20:37:29 BEFORE WE HEAR BACK, I WANT TO HEAR FROM STAFF WITH
20:37:33 REGARD TO THE -- TO THE ALLEGED LIVE OAK.
20:37:36 I AM SEEING THE LIVE OAK ON THE SITE PLAN RIGHT IN THE
20:37:39 MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT THAT LOOKS LIKE IT IS BEING
20:37:40 REMOVED.
20:37:42 SO -- OKAY.
20:37:46 ERIN, ARE YOU OUR TREE STAFF?
20:37:53 >> I AM WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, ERIN MAYOR.
20:37:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN?
20:37:55 >> I HAVE NOT.
20:37:59 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE
20:38:00 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
20:38:03 >> I DO.
20:38:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MA'AM.
20:38:07 TELL PUTS LIVE OAK.
20:38:09 >> ALMOST IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY.
20:38:12 ABOUT THE NORTHEASTERN -- WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
20:38:17 THE CROWN IS ABOUT 64 FEET BY 86 FEET IN DIMENSION.
20:38:22 SO A LOT OF THE CROWN EXTENDS PRETTY FAR ACROSS THIS
20:38:23 PROPERTY.
20:38:26 IT ALSO BRANCHES PRETTY LOW, AND WITH THE HEIGHT OF
20:38:29 WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, THE AMOUNT OF PRUNING THAT
20:38:33 WOULD BE NEEDED TO SAVE THIS TREE DURING CONSTRUCTION
20:38:38 IS -- IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SAVE THIS TREE WITH PRUNING.
20:38:41 AND IT FALLS PRETTY MUCH RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THIS
20:38:42 LOT.
20:38:45 UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS RATED A C-9 WHICH WAS RATED
20:38:50 HAZARDOUS DUE TO DEAD WOOD IN THE CROWN OF THE TREE AND
20:38:54 ALSO THERE WAS AN OLD DRIVEWAY ON THIS LOT, AND THE
20:39:00 ROOTS ARE COMPACTED ON THREE SIDES OF THE ROOT PLATE.
20:39:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW
20:39:07 THE REMOVAL OF THE TREE BASED ON ITS CONDITION AND
20:39:08 LOCATION.
20:39:09 >> YES, SIR.
20:39:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY WILL HAVE TO REPLACE IT
20:39:14 ON-SITE OR WITH OFF-SITE CONTRIBUTION.
20:39:16 >> EXACTLY, YES.
20:39:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CAN YOU ASK HOW MANY -- HOW MANY
20:39:22 TREES ARE GOING TO BE PLANTED SOMEWHERE ELSE OR ON THIS
20:39:26 LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE REMOVAL OF THE TREES ON-SITE?
20:39:37 >> LET'S SEE -- CONSULT THE TREE TABLE HERE.
20:39:49 WELL THERE ARE A FEW A FEW TREES ARE RATED DANGEROUS
20:39:50 ON-SITE.
20:39:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SORRY I ASKED YOU THE $64,000
20:39:57 QUESTION.
20:40:00 >> I NEED A LITTLE BIT OF TIME LOOK THIS ONE UP.
20:40:01 LET'S SEE.
20:40:04 ALSO AN EXEMPT TREE.
20:40:06 EXEMPT SPECIES ON THE LOT.
20:40:09 THE BLACK CHERRY.
20:40:13 C 9, D 9.
20:40:17 THE LIVE OAK WORTH FOUR MITIGATION TREES ON-SITE AND
20:40:20 THE ADDITIONAL TREES -- WHERE IS THE TREE TABLE.
20:40:21 HERE WE GO.
20:40:23 OKAY.
20:40:27 OKAY.
20:40:37 TOTAL MITIGATION TREES REQUIRED ARE -- WELL, 19 TREES
20:40:39 ARE REQUIRED.
20:40:41 BUT THEY ARE ASKING THE WAIVER TO PAY INTO THE
20:40:46 APPLICABLE TREE TRUST FUND FOR MITIGATION TREES.
20:40:48 >> THANK YOU, ERIN.
20:40:50 MR. MIRANDA, ANYTHING ELSE?
20:40:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOTHING ELSE.
20:40:54 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
20:40:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS ERIN.
20:41:01 WELCOME ABOARD.
20:41:01 >> THANK YOU.
20:41:02 NICE TO MEET YOU ALL.
20:41:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE HAVE ANYBODY
20:41:05 ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY.
20:41:10 YOU AND YOUR TEAM CAN REBUT.
20:41:13 AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, PERHAPS, GO OVER IN THE SITE
20:41:17 PLAN FOR THE BENEFIT OF YOUR PROPOSED NEW NEIGHBOR THE
20:41:18 TRAFFIC FLOW.
20:41:22 BECAUSE I DON'T THINK SHE WAS -- MAYBE YOU CAN SHOW IT
20:41:25 ON THE SITE PLAN HOW THE CARS GO IN.
20:41:31 AND SPEAK TO THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON THIS SUPPOSED
20:41:32 SMALL STREET.
20:41:33 SMALL BRICK STREET.
20:41:37 AND THEN THE OTHER CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED BY BOTH
20:41:39 FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WERE THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT
20:41:42 YOU ARE PROPOSING INSTEAD OF RS-50, WHICH PROBABLY
20:41:45 WOULD HAVE ALLOWED TWO UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY, YOU ARE
20:41:51 ASKING FOR FOUR.
20:41:51 >> YES.
20:41:57 MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN.
20:42:02 AND AIM SHOWING THE SITE PLAN OR AIM SHOWING MY
20:42:04 PRESENTATION IF I MAY ASK THAT QUESTION.
20:42:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF YOU CAN SHOW THE SITE PLAN AND
20:42:08 SHOW HOW THAT TRAFFIC GOES IN.
20:42:11 THE YOUNG LADY NEXT DOOR WAS ASKING ABOUT WHERE THE
20:42:14 TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GO IN AND OUT OF AND HOW IT WILL
20:42:16 GET TO THE GARAGE.
20:42:16 >> SURE.
20:42:20 I HAVE TWO SCREENS ON MY COMPUTER, SO I AM CONCERNED.
20:42:24 I AM NOT SHOWING THE CORRECT INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN?
20:42:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN.
20:42:30 USE YOUR ARROW AND SHOW US HOW CARS GO IN AND OUT.
20:42:31 >> YES, SIR.
20:42:36 SO THIS IS -- WENT AWAY.
20:42:42 THIS IS -- SUBMITTED THE LAST UPDATED SITE PLAN.
20:42:46 TRANSPORTATION ONLY HAD ONE MINOR COMMENT REGARDING OUR
20:42:48 ACCESS.
20:42:52 BUT THIS -- THIS UP HERE IS ADELAIDE STREET.
20:42:56 I BELIEVE OUR NEIGHBOR IS THE -- THE LADY WHO INQUIRED
20:43:00 ABOUT OUR PROJECT EARLIER IS -- LIVES RIGHT HERE ON
20:43:05 THIS SIDE OF ADELAIDE STREET.
20:43:10 SO ADELAIDE STREET IS, YOU KNOW, HAS -- HAS BRICK OR --
20:43:12 BRICK PAVEMENT.
20:43:14 24 FEET WIDE.
20:43:24 AND THE ACCESS WILL BE OFF ADELAIDE FROM THE ACCESS.
20:43:26 THE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY AND THE CARS AND VEHICLES
20:43:31 WILL GO SOUTH AND THEN THEY WILL GO EAST AND THEN THEY
20:43:37 WILL ENTER THE FOUR UNITS HERE ON THE TWO-CAR GARAGE
20:43:42 THAT BRICK AND MORTAR IS PROPOSING ON EACH UNIT.
20:43:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE OTHER CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED
20:43:46 WAS THE QUANTITY.
20:43:48 THE NUMBER OF UNITS PERIOD.
20:43:51 YOU KNOW, IT IS RS-50.
20:43:55 RS-50 NOW AND LOOKING FOR A PD FOR FOUR UNITS.
20:43:57 DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT OAR ANYTHING ELSE YOU WISH
20:43:59 TO SPEAK TO?
20:43:59 >> YES, SIR.
20:44:05 THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS R-20, WHICH
20:44:09 WOULD ALLOW FOR FIVE UNITS.
20:44:13 SO WE ARE ONLY PROPOSING FOUR UNITS.
20:44:18 AND THAT WAS -- I BELIEVE THAT WAS EARLIER INDICATED BY
20:44:21 ZANE IN HIS PRESENTATION.
20:44:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
20:44:25 ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO WRAP UP WITH?
20:44:32 >> NO, JUST WANT TO SAY FEW THINGS THAT ARE VERY KEY TO
20:44:33 THIS PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
20:44:37 NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE -- WE ARE PROVIDING NINE PARKING
20:44:38 SPACES.
20:44:41 ONE OF THEM IS FOR VISITORS WHICH IS RIGHT HERE IS WHAT
20:44:43 I AM SHOWING RIGHT HERE.
20:44:50 THIS SITE PLAN HAS BEEN DRASTICALLY MODIFIED IF I MAY
20:44:56 USE THAT WORD FROM WHAT WE INITIALLY SUBMITTED TO
20:44:57 STAFF.
20:45:04 WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO BUILDINGS -- TWO DUPLEXES ON THIS
20:45:05 PROPERTY.
20:45:10 SEPARATED BY ABOUT 10 FEET.
20:45:18 WE HAD INITIALLY PROPOSED A CURB CUT RATHER THAN
20:45:19 ADELAIDE STREET.
20:45:21 WE WERE PROPOSING ONE ON NORTH TAMPA STREET RIGHT HERE
20:45:23 AT THIS LOCATION.
20:45:30 AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE DENIED OUR REQUEST TO
20:45:33 CONNECT TO NORTH TAMPA STREET BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT
20:45:35 OF TRANSPORTATION.
20:45:41 WE PROACTIVELY COMMUNICATED WITH THEM, SET UP A --
20:45:45 SCHEDULED A MEETING. I BELIEVE ONE OF THE D.O.T. --
20:45:49 F.D.O.T. REPS PARTICIPATED IN THE MEETING WITH THE CITY
20:45:50 OF TAMPA.
20:45:55 AND I AM NOT SURE IF IT WAS RECIPROCATED FROM STAFF --
20:45:59 FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA TRANSPORTATION WHEN WE MET WITH
20:46:02 D.O.T., BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE COULD NOT CONNECT
20:46:05 HERE TO NORTH TAMPA STREET.
20:46:10 SO THE ONLY OPTION THAT WE HAD WAS TO -- INSTEAD OF
20:46:15 HAVING TWO DUPLEXES, TWO BUILDINGS SEPARATED AND WE HAD
20:46:19 TO JUST PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER AND THEN HAVE THE SPACE
20:46:23 -- WHICH IS GREAT FOR THE -- FOR THE ADJACENT
20:46:26 NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST BECAUSE WE ARE PROVIDING
20:46:30 PRETTY LARGE BUFFER.
20:46:31 ALMOST 30 FEET.
20:46:33 AND ALSO 30 FEET TO THE SOUTH.
20:46:37 AND THE -- BECAUSE OF THE FDOT OR FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
20:46:41 TRANSPORTATION DENIAL, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN OR THE
20:46:48 PLAN THAT CAME UP AS A RESULT OF THAT.
20:46:51 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?
20:46:52 >> NO.
20:46:56 THIS IS JOHN KENNER.
20:46:57 DO YOU HEAR ME?
20:46:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN?
20:47:00 >> I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN.
20:47:06 >>CLERK: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
20:47:10 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH AND
20:47:11 NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
20:47:13 >> DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THIS ON THE SCREEN?
20:47:16 >> THAT WILL BE HELPFUL BOTH FOR THE TRAFFIC PATTERN
20:47:20 AND I WANT TO REITERATE AND AS I HAVE SEEN IN OTHER
20:47:20 CASES.
20:47:23 WHEN I FIRST GOT INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS THERE WAS A
20:47:28 PROPOSAL FOR SINGLE CAR GARAGES OFF OF ADELAIDE STREET.
20:47:32 AS A PLANNER, I WAS IMMEDIATELY OPPOSED TO THAT.
20:47:38 SO I PROPOSED A REDESIGN OF THE SITE SO WE CAN BE MORE
20:47:40 PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED.
20:47:42 FACE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRY TO KEEP THIS MORE OF A
20:47:47 PART OF THE STREET RATHER THAN A SEPARATION.
20:47:49 AND UNFORTUNATELY, TRANSPORTATION DIDN'T ALLOW US TO
20:47:56 CONNECT THE TAMPA TREAT, AND SO WE MADE SOME SACRIFICES
20:47:59 TO ACCOMMODATE TRANSPORTATION.
20:48:02 AND UNFORTUNATELY THE ACCOMMODATION FOR CARS DON'T
20:48:04 ALWAYS BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:48:07 I THINK WE HAVE MADE PRETTY GOOD ATTEMPT AT TRYING TO
20:48:10 ACCOMMODATE THOSE NEEDS AND STILL BRING A RESIDENTIAL
20:48:11 SCALE.
20:48:15 WE DO FEEL LIKE WE ARE ADDRESSING ADELAIDE.
20:48:18 AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY PROVIDING FRONT PORCHES.
20:48:21 AND IN KEEPING THE VEHICLES IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY
20:48:22 WHERE THEY BELONG.
20:48:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU GUYS WANT TO WRAP UP.
20:48:30 >> YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE MORE THING, IF I MAY.
20:48:34 YOU MIGHT THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU SEE THE TYPE OF PLAN.
20:48:38 YOU MIGHT THINK OF RACING THE FOUR UNITS TOWARD TAMPA
20:48:43 STREET, BUT IN THAT CONSIDERATION, WE WILL HAVE TO BE
20:48:48 -- WE WILL HAVE A SIDE FACADE FACING ADELAIDE STREET
20:48:52 WHICH IN THAT CASE I THINK IT WILL NOT BE IN THE BEST
20:48:56 INTEREST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:48:58 JOE, DO YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING ABOUT THAT REAL
20:49:00 QUICK?
20:49:04 >> WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FRONTAGE
20:49:06 TO DO THE BUILDINGS FACING THAT WAY.
20:49:09 AND WE FELT THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE END USER AS WELL AS
20:49:13 THE NEIGHBORHOOD, A MUCH MORE DESIRABLE SOLUTION, YOU
20:49:16 KNOW, FOR YOUR FRONT PORCHES TO FACE THE NEIGHBORHOOD
20:49:19 VERSUS A THREE-LANE ROAD AND FALLS IN WITH THE CITY'S
20:49:22 REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.
20:49:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, YOUR TIME IS OVER.
20:49:28 GENTLEMEN, WE APPRECIATE IT.
20:49:28 >> THANK YOU.
20:49:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY QUESTIONS?
20:49:30 MR. MIRANDA.
20:49:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM JUST GOING TO
20:49:36 COMPARE -- IN DOING -- BETWEEN THIS ONE AND THE ANOTHER
20:49:39 ONE THAT WE JUST HAD WITH FOUR UNITS.
20:49:44 IN LOT I BELIEVE IS 10,890 SQUARE FEET.
20:49:49 IF MY -- THE ONE BEFORE WAS 8316 FEET.
20:49:54 SO 2574 FEET LARGER ON THIS ONE THAN THE OTHER ONE, FOR
20:49:59 THE RECORD, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT.
20:50:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA.
20:50:03 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CLOSE?
20:50:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION.
20:50:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
20:50:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED?
20:50:16 I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM 9.
20:50:26 LOST TRACK OF WHO MIGHT WANT TO GO NEXT.
20:50:28 MR. VIERA.
20:50:29 >>LUIS VIERA: OH, YES.
20:50:30 I CAN GO, YES, SIR.
20:50:34 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
20:50:38 VICINITY OF 3018 NORTH TAMPA STREET IN THE CITY OF
20:50:41 TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
20:50:44 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50
20:50:47 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
20:50:50 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED PROVIDING AN
20:50:51 EFFECTIVE DATE.
20:50:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION BY MR. VIERA AND SECOND BY
20:50:57 MR. MANISCALCO.
20:50:59 A ROLL CALL VOTE.
20:51:01 IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COMMENT, THAT IS FINE.
20:51:04 I WILL SAY THAT I WILL SUPPORT THIS ON TWO DIFFERENT
20:51:09 BASES THAT DO DIFFERENTIATE FROM AN EARLIER PROJECT.
20:51:11 WE ARE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE ON THEIR OWN,
20:51:15 BUT I WANTED TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH MR. MIRANDA THIS
20:51:18 IS A LARGER LOT BY PERHAPS 20% LARGER.
20:51:21 AND ALSO THE REAR LOADING.
20:51:24 YOU KNOW, THERE IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO URGE
20:51:28 THE LAST PROJECT TO DO, WHICH IS TO REAR LOAD SO YOU
20:51:31 DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, EIGHT DRIVEWAYS COMING OFF OF
20:51:32 THIS PROJECT.
20:51:36 INSTEAD ALL OF THESE DRIVEWAYS ARE IN THE BACK OF THE
20:51:38 PROJECT THAT NOBODY WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT.
20:51:40 SO I CAN SUPPORT THIS -- THIS PROJECT.
20:51:45 EVEN IF -- EVEN THOUGH IT IS -- IT IS SLIGHTLY LARGER,
20:51:49 YOU KNOW, THEN WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED.
20:51:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY ADD TO MR. VIERA.
20:51:55 I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO AT LEAST SAYS IT CONSISTENT WITH
20:51:58 THE INTENT TO ENSURE THERE IS ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF LAND
20:52:01 PLAN FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES TO ACCOMMODATE AND
20:52:05 PROTECT THE POPULATION, THE DENSITY PROPOSED BY THE
20:52:08 DEVELOPMENT IS NOT EXCEED THE DENSITY EQUITABLE TO
20:52:15 PURSUANT TO 8.14.1 AND CONSISTENT WITH POLICY 2.1.2 AND
20:52:20 HOUSING POLICY 173.4 WHICH ENCOURAGES NEW DEVELOPMENT
20:52:24 ON VACANT LAND AND UNDERUTILIZED AND DEVELOPMENT
20:52:26 PROMOTES AND ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE
20:52:29 IN LOCATION, CHARACTER, COMPATIBILITY AND SURROUNDING
20:52:32 NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROPOSES -- ALSO PROMOTE THE
20:52:34 SUFFICIENT AND SUBSTANTIAL USE OF LAND AND
20:52:34 INFRASTRUCTURE.
20:52:36 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
20:52:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA.
20:52:41 DO YOU ACCEPT THOSE COMMENTS MR. VIERA AS PART OF YOUR
20:52:41 MOTION?
20:52:45 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN HE REPEAT THAT?
20:52:45 [LAUGHTER]
20:52:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL SEND YOU A VIDEOTAPE.
20:52:50 >>LUIS VIERA: I AM GOOD WITH THAT.
20:52:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. VIERA ACCEPTED THE COMMENTS OF
20:52:55 MR. MIRANDA AS PART OF HIS MOTION.
20:52:57 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
20:52:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
20:52:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
20:53:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
20:53:03 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
20:53:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
20:53:08 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:53:10 >>CLERK: AND GUDES.
20:53:14 MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTE NOTHING AND GUDES
20:53:16 ABSENT AT VOTE.
20:53:20 SECOND SEPTEMBER 30 AT 9:30 A.M. SECOND READING.
20:53:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU HEARD THAT?
20:53:23 >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
20:53:24 HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
20:53:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE TONIGHT LAST ITEM OF THE
20:53:30 EVENING, REZ-21-66.
20:53:31 MR. HUSSEIN.
20:53:35 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH, ZANE HUSSEIN, LAND
20:53:36 DEVELOPMENT TOWARD NATION.
20:53:39 ITEM NUMBER 10, REZ-21-66.
20:53:46 THE PROPERTY IS 3002 NORTH WOODROW AVENUE FROM RS-50 TO
20:53:49 PD, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
20:53:51 I WILL PASS IT ALONG TO DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING
20:53:54 COMMISSION.
20:53:56 >>DANNY COLLINS: THIS IS DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR
20:53:56 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
20:53:58 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
20:54:01 OUR NEXT CASE IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT
20:54:04 AND MORE SPECIFICALLY IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
20:54:09 AND ALSO WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
20:54:16 IT'S SHOWN HERE ON OUR -- ON OUR VISION MAP.
20:54:19 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS PLYMOUTH
20:54:22 PLAYGROUND LOCATED ONE MILE TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE
20:54:26 SITE, THE SITE IS WITHIN PROXIMITY OF TRANSIT.
20:54:30 AND THE SITE IS WITHIN A LEVEL D EVACUATION ZONE.
20:54:33 AN AERIAL MAN OF THE SITE AND THE SURROUNDING
20:54:33 PROPERTIES.
20:54:37 IT IS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF WEST STREET AND WEST
20:54:38 WOODROW AVENUE.
20:54:41 AND ONE BLOCK EAST OF NORTH BOULEVARD AND PREDOMINANTLY
20:54:43 SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL USES.
20:54:46 THERE ARE SOME NONRESIDENTIAL USES ALONG NORTH
20:54:50 BOULEVARD WHICH IS ONE BLOCK TO THE WEST OF THE SITE.
20:54:54 THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
20:54:55 THE SUBJECT SITES WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL-10
20:54:57 DESIGNATION.
20:55:00 IT IS SURROUNDED BY THAT RESIDENTIAL-10 TO THE NORTH,
20:55:04 EAST AND SOUTH, DIRECTLY TO THE WEST IS SMU-6.
20:55:09 AND THEN THERE IS A POCKET OF RESIDENTIAL 20 TO THE
20:55:11 SOUTH -- SOUTHWEST OF THE SITE.
20:55:13 FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE
20:55:17 APPLICATION AND FOUND NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE
20:55:18 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:55:21 THE REQUEST WILL ALLOW FOR ONE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
20:55:25 RESIDENTIAL UNIT AT AN OVERALL OF 8.33 UNITS PER ACRE
20:55:27 WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER
20:55:30 THE RESIDENTIAL-10 DESIGNATION.
20:55:34 FURTHERMORE, THE PROPOSED REQUEST WILL ALLOW FOR D FOR
20:55:37 DEVELOPMENT THAT IS SIMILAR IN FORM, HEIGHT AND SCALE
20:55:39 TO THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES FOUND ALONG NORTH
20:55:46 WOODROW AVENUE, ADDITIONALLY AND OF
20:55:48 HOUSING OF THE CITY'S POPULATION.
20:55:51 AND TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON
20:55:55 VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO ENSURE THAT AN
20:55:57 ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF
20:56:01 TAMPA'S FUTURE POPULATION AND WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL
20:56:03 HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN
20:56:05 VILLAGE.
20:56:07 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
20:56:09 FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
20:56:11 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
20:56:14 THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND AVAILABLE FOR ANY
20:56:15 QUESTIONS.
20:56:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COLLINS.
20:56:19 HEARING NONE, MR. HUSSEIN.
20:56:23 >>ZANE HUSSEIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:56:25 ZANE HUSSEIN, PLANNING COORDINATION.
20:56:28 THE APPLICANT AND REPRESENTATIVE IS KEVIN ROBLES.
20:56:33 THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 3002 NORTH WOODROW AVENUE.
20:56:38 REQUESTING FROM RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD,
20:56:40 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
20:56:41 DETACHED.
20:56:43 NO WAIVERS REQUESTED HERE.
20:56:47 AS WE LOOK AT THE PLAT HERE, YOU WILL SEE THE LOT IS
20:56:50 HERE SHADED IN BLUE.
20:56:53 LOT ONE OF BLOCK E.
20:56:57 THE PROPOSED -- PROPOSED PD TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF
20:56:59 ONE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOT.
20:57:03 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED HERE WHERE THE SHADING IS ON
20:57:07 THE CW BLACK'S SECOND SUBDIVISION.
20:57:10 LITTLE BRIEF BIT OF THIS LOT.
20:57:14 PER THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, LOTS TWO AND THREE TO THE
20:57:19 NORTH HERE ARE IN COMMON OWNERSHIP BY LANDRY LEAPER AND
20:57:22 AMY FALKENBERG.
20:57:27 AND SIVIT Z PURCHASED ALL THREE LOTS AND DAVID AND
20:57:35 LESLIE SIVITS SOLD TO LEAPER AND VOLKENBERG AND
20:57:37 RETAINED LOT ONE.
20:57:43 WHEN SOLD TWO AND THREE CREATED NONCONFORMING LOT ONE
20:57:45 AND THE STRUCTURE OF LOT ONE.
20:57:48 AND AS WE SEE THE OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE PROPERTY, YOU
20:57:53 WILL SEE THE PROPERTY OUTLINED HERE IN RED.
20:57:58 YOU WILL SEE YOU HAVE -- SORRY -- YOU WILL SEE YOU HAVE
20:58:02 THE PROPERTY AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF WEST WEST
20:58:02 STREET.
20:58:06 AND ALSO NORTH WOODROW AVENUE INTERSECTION.
20:58:10 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT
20:58:16 WITH DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIALS TO THE --
20:58:20 RESIDENCES TO ITS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND OFFICE USE AS
20:58:23 A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST.
20:58:26 AS WE COME HERE AND LOOKING AT THE NON -- AT THE
20:58:29 CONFORMING MAP, YOU WILL SEE THE PROPERTY OUTLINED AND
20:58:33 ALSO HATCHED IN BLACK.
20:58:36 THE OVERALL ANALYSIS OF THE PROPERTY INCLUDED 230
20:58:38 ZONING LOTS.
20:58:43 164 OF THESE LOTS OR 71% OF THESE LOTS HAVE A WIDTH OF
20:58:47 50 FEET OR GREATER AND 66 OR 29% OF THE LOTS HAVE BEEN
20:58:52 DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 49.99 FEET OR LESS.
20:58:57 THE SUBJECT LOT CONTAINS THREE ZONING LOTS, TWO -- OR
20:59:00 67% OF THESE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A 50 FEET OR
20:59:03 GREATER AND ONE -- OR 33% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A
20:59:07 WIDTH OF 49.99 OR LESS.
20:59:13 THE 3000 BLOCK OF NORTH WOODROW AVENUE -- NORTH WOODROW
20:59:15 AVENUE HERE,
20:59:14 ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET CONTAINS SEVEN TOTAL ZONING
20:59:15 LOTS.
20:59:17 FIVE OF THESE LOTS, OR 71% OF THE LOTS, HAVE BEEN
20:59:19 DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH GREATER OF 50 FEET.
20:59:22 TWO OF THE LOTS, OR 29% OF THE LOTS, HAVE A WIDTH OF
20:59:24 49.99 OR LESS.
20:59:26 THE BLOCK FACE HERE CONTAINS THREE TOTAL ZONING LOTS.
20:59:32 TWO OF THE LOTS HAVE 67% WITH A WIDTH OF 50 FEET OR
20:59:35 GREATER AND ONE OF THOSE LOTS, OR 33%, HAVE A WIDTH OF
20:59:39 49.99 FEET OR LESS.
20:59:43 WITH THESE FINDINGS, STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED REZONING
20:59:47 REQUEST TO BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
20:59:49 PATTERN OF THE OVERALL AREA, BLOCK, AND BLOCK FACE.
20:59:53 AS WE COME HERE, WE'LL SEE THE PROPOSED TWO-STORY MASONRY
20:59:59 RESIDENCE HERE ON THE SITE PLAN, AND THE ONE-STORY
21:00:03 MASONRY DETACHED GARAGE ALSO TO THE WEST.
21:00:05 AS I GO TO THE SITE, YOU'LL SEE THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE
21:00:15 SITE.
21:00:15 TO THE EAST OF THE SITE YOU'LL SEE RESIDENTIAL
21:00:17 SINGLE-FAMILY.
21:00:21 TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE YOU'LL SEE A PROPOSED REZONING
21:00:24 ALSO FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
21:00:27 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
21:00:33 APPLICATION AND FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE
21:00:35 CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
21:00:37 IT SHOULD BE THE -- SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY
21:00:39 COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS
21:00:42 MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT BETWEEN THE FIRST AND
21:00:44 SECOND READING.
21:00:45 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, IF NEEDED.
21:00:49 I'M AVAILABLE AT ANY TIME.
21:00:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR
21:00:54 MR. HUSAIN?
21:00:55 I HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION.
21:00:57 IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO YOUR COLORFUL AND VERY
21:01:01 MATHEMATICAL MAP, SO MATHEMATICAL THAT MR. MIRANDA MIGHT
21:01:08 WANT TO JOIN FORCES WITH YOU.
21:01:10 HE IS THE KING OF MATH AROUND HERE.
21:01:11 ALL RIGHT.
21:01:17 USE YOUR CURSOR AND SHOW US THE SUBJECT PARCEL, IF YOU
21:01:20 WOULD AGAIN.
21:01:21 YOU WERE SHOWING US EARLIER THE PARCELS THAT THE -- THE
21:01:27 MOTHER PARCELS, OKAY, ORIGINALLY, SO ALL THREE OF THOSE
21:01:32 PARCELS, THE RED, RED, AND THEN HATCHED WERE THE ORIGINAL
21:01:36 MOTHER PARCELS?
21:01:38 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: JUST THE BIG LOT ABOVE IT, CORRECT.
21:01:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST THE LARGE LOT ABOVE IT.
21:01:44 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: CORRECT.
21:01:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SUSAN, YOUR HAND WAS UP.
21:01:48 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YES, I HOPE TO TRY TO CLARIFY
21:01:52 THIS.
21:01:52 YES, THE RED, THE LARGE LOT JUST TO THE NORTH WAS PART OF
21:01:56 THE MOTHER PARCEL, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT.
21:01:58 AND THIS LOT ON THE CORNER, THE BLUE HATCH, THE SUBJECT
21:02:02 PROPERTY, WAS PULLED OFF IN 2018.
21:02:07 YOU HEARD ZAIN REFER TO SIBBOTS, THAT IS THE PROPERTY
21:02:11 OWNER OF LOT ONE, AND PRIOR TO 2018, THEY WERE THE OWNERS
21:02:16 OF LOTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
21:02:18 SO THERE WAS UNIFIED OWNERSHIP OF THIS PARCEL, AND IN
21:02:22 2018, THE PROPERTY OWNER SOLD OFF LOT ONE.
21:02:27 AND IN DOING SO CREATED THIS NONCONFORMING LOT AND THEY
21:02:30 ALSO CREATED A NONCONFORMITY FOR THE EXISTING HOUSE ON
21:02:33 THE REMAINING LOT THAT THEY SOLD BECAUSE NOW THAT LOT,
21:02:36 THE HOME ON THAT LOT ENCROACHES INTO THE SETBACK ON THAT
21:02:42 PROPERTY.
21:02:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THERE'S ONLY ONE HOME TO THE NORTH,
21:02:47 IS THAT CORRECT, ZAIN?
21:02:50 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: THAT'S CORRECT.
21:02:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
21:02:54 ALL RIGHT.
21:02:54 THANK YOU.
21:02:57 SUSAN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
21:03:00 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: NO, NOT AT THIS TIME, UNLESS YOU
21:03:01 HAD ANY QUESTIONS.
21:03:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
21:03:04 SO THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME.
21:03:06 WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK.
21:03:12 [FIVE-MINUTE BREAK]
21:07:53 [ ROLL CALL]
21:07:56 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
21:07:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
21:08:01 ALL RIGHT, WHERE WERE WE?
21:08:03 I THINK WE WERE READY FOR THE PETITIONER, AM I RIGHT?
21:08:07 >>THE CLERK: THAT'S CORRECT.
21:08:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. ROBLES, INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
21:08:19 YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN?
21:08:21 HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN AT?
21:08:23 >> MY NAME IS KEVIN ROBLES.
21:08:24 2107 CHESTNUT FOREST DRIVE.
21:08:27 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
21:08:28 FOR THE RECORD, I DISCOVERED SEVERAL ERRORS ON THE
21:08:33 EXISTING LOT PATTERN MAP.
21:08:35 I DID SEND IN TO COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHAT SEEMED TO BE ABOUT
21:08:39 FIVE HOURS AGO INDIVIDUAL PACKETS WHICH SHOWS THE MAPS
21:08:46 FOR YOUR ALL'S PLEASURE.
21:08:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. BRYAN BROUGHT THEM IN ON YOUR
21:08:54 BEHALF.
21:08:55 I ASSUME ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS GOT THEM EXCEPT FOR MR.
21:08:58 VIERA BECAUSE --
21:09:00 >> I HAVE IT IN THE OVERHEAD AS WELL.
21:09:02 I'VE GOT IT ON THE OVERHEAD.
21:09:05 THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A LITTLE EASIER.
21:09:06 FOR THE RECORD, WE DISCOVERED SEVERAL ERRORS ON THE
21:09:09 EXISTING LOT PATTERN MAP PRODUCED BY THE CITY'S ZONING
21:09:12 STAFF AS IT TRANSLATES INTO PAGE THREE OF THE STAFF
21:09:16 REPORT.
21:09:17 THE ZONING STAFF'S MAP ERRONEOUSLY IDENTIFIED 55 PARCELS,
21:09:23 24 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL LOT IN THE ANALYSIS THAT ARE
21:09:26 EITHER ZONED RM-16, RM-18, CG, RO, AND PD FOR OFFICE AND
21:09:33 SCHOOL USES AND ARE NOT RS ZONING.
21:09:37 THOSE LOTS ARE X'D OUT ON THE MAP YOU'LL SEE IN BLACK
21:09:43 WITH THE EXPLANATIONS OF THE ERRONEOUSLY INCLUDING THEM
21:09:50 IN THEIR COUNTS.
21:09:51 SO I WANTED TO BRING COUNCIL'S ATTENTION TO THAT, WHICH
21:09:56 SORT OF BRINGS THE STUDY AREA DOWN AND BRINGS THE NUMBERS
21:10:01 DOWN.
21:10:03 THOSE LOTS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE
21:10:06 DEVELOPMENT -- IN THE MAP NOR HAVE THEY HISTORICALLY BEEN
21:10:10 INCLUDED IN THE MAP IN THE LOT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
21:10:12 ANALYSIS FOR THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DEVELOPMENT IN RS
21:10:17 50 ZONING DISTRICT, LET ALONE IN ANY RS ZONING.
21:10:20 THE SUBSEQUENT STEPS ERROR WAS MADE BY ZONING STAFF IN
21:10:26 THE SETUP OF THEIR STUDY ASIDE FROM THIS, THE PARAMETERS
21:10:29 THAT THEY CHOSE TO ANALYZE ALONG WITH THE FINDINGS MADE
21:10:34 THE STAFF REPORT EXCEPTIONALLY LIMITED IN SCOPE PROVIDED
21:10:40 COUNCIL WITH A VERY ELEMENTARY REVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT
21:10:43 PATTERN.
21:10:43 FURTHERMORE, IN 2019, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A DOMAIN
21:10:48 HOMES REZONING, REZ 19-40, WITHIN THE SAME STUDY AREA,
21:10:56 AUTHORIZING DEVELOPMENT OF TWO PLATTED LOTS, MEASURING 44
21:11:00 AND 45 FEET WIDE IN WHICH ZONING STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST
21:11:07 CONSISTENT.
21:11:08 THIS IS A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL PD.
21:11:09 AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE LOTS ARE 44 AND 45 FEET WIDE.
21:11:13 ON THE 2019 REZONE.
21:11:16 UNFORTUNATELY, ZONING STAFF OMITTED THE LOGICAL AND
21:11:21 NECESSARY ANALYSIS OF THE WHOLE ORIGINAL PLAT FOR COUNCIL
21:11:25 TO REFERENCE THE FOLLOWING FACTS ARE BASED ON THE
21:11:27 ANALYSIS OF THE ORIGINAL PLAT.
21:11:29 I'M GOING TO PLACE W.C. BLACK'S SECOND EDITION PLAT UP
21:11:34 THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE.
21:11:37 IF I TAKE THE ORIGINAL WC, ORIGINAL SECOND EDITION PLAT,
21:11:52 WHICH IS INCLUSIVE HERE, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE ORIGINAL
21:11:56 PLAT WAS PLATTED IN 1918.
21:11:58 THERE'S FIVE TOTAL BLOCKS IN THE PLAT.
21:12:02 THERE'S 79 TOTAL PLATTED LOTS.
21:12:05 FOUR OF THE LOTS ARE PLATTED AT 38.6 FEET IN WIDTH.
21:12:09 44 OF THE LOTS ARE PLATTED AT 40-FOOT WIDTH.
21:12:15 6 LOTS ARE PLATTED AT 40.7 FEET, AND 20 LOTS ARE PLATTED
21:12:20 AT 44-FOOT WIDTH.
21:12:25 ONE LOT IS PLATTED AT 44.7 WIDTH.
21:12:30 ONLY FOUR PLATTED LOTS AT 55.2 FEET IN WIDTH.
21:12:36 THE 52 ZONING LOTS, EXCLUDING THE RM 18 AND THE
21:12:40 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND THE PD FOR OFFICE USES, 32 OF THE
21:12:44 52, 61.5% OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT LOTS IN THIS PLAT
21:12:49 ARE LESS THAN 50 FEET IN WIDTH, SPECIFICALLY AS FOLLOWS,
21:12:53 ONE LOT AT 30 WIDE, ONE LOT AT 38.6 WIDE.
21:12:57 22 LOTS AT 40 WIDE.
21:12:59 FIVE LOTS AT 40.7 WIDE.
21:13:02 ONE LOT AT 41-FOOT WIDE.
21:13:04 TWO LOTS AT 44-FOOT WIDE AS PLATTED, NOT INCLUDING THE
21:13:08 SUBJECT LOT.
21:13:09 ONLY THREE HOMES HAVE BEEN BUILT SINCE 2000 ON ALL THE
21:13:13 LOTS MEASURING ON LOTS MEASURING 40 FEET IN WIDTH.
21:13:18 IT'S OUR ASSERTION THAT OUR REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH
21:13:22 THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND CAUSES NO ADVERSE
21:13:25 IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING AREA OR PATTERN.
21:13:28 BASED ON THE FACTS OUTLINED ABOVE, COUPLED WITH THE FACT
21:13:31 THAT BOTH THE ZONING STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE
21:13:34 PD, THE SAME PD IN THE SAME STUDY AREA FOR THE SAME USE
21:13:39 ON SIMILAR SIZE LOTS, DOMAIN HOMES RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS
21:13:42 THE APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.
21:13:44 AND SO THE ESSENCE OF WHY WE'RE HERE ON THE PD IS SIMPLY
21:13:50 THAT THE LOTS IN THIS SUBDIVISION OVER IN THIS PARTICULAR
21:13:57 --
21:14:04 [ NO ENCODER ]
21:14:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS GOING TO ASK MR. HUSAIN.
21:14:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU THINK, SIR.
21:14:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. ROBLES, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO,
21:14:27 SINCE YOU HAVE SORT OF CALLED INTO QUESTION STAFF'S MAP,
21:14:31 I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO WHAT
21:14:36 YOU'VE GIVEN US, WHAT YOU'VE SHOWN US.
21:14:39 I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR.
21:14:40 AND THEN YOU WILL GET THE LAST WORD IN REBUTTAL.
21:14:43 >> THAT'S FINE.
21:14:44 I DON'T KNOW IF MR. HUSAIN HAS THIS MAP, BUT I'VE LEFT IT
21:14:48 UP HERE ON THE SCREEN IF HE CAN OBSERVE.
21:14:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GO AHEAD AND PUT IT UP SO MR. HUSAIN
21:14:58 CAN HAVE THE BENEFIT.
21:14:59 IN THE FUTURE, TRY AND GET THAT TO STAFF IN ADVANCE OF
21:15:03 THE HEARING, OF COURSE.
21:15:04 >> WE JUST RECEIVED THIS FROM STAFF 48 HOURS AGO.
21:15:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
21:15:10 >> I WANT TO ADD ONE THING TO THAT AS WELL.
21:15:12 WE WENT THROUGH A DRC HEARING, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY
21:15:18 ADVERSE COMMENTS FROM STAFF AT THAT TIME.
21:15:20 SO WHEN WE RECEIVED THE REPORT 48 HOURS AGO, THAT'S WHEN
21:15:24 IT WAS DEEMED INCONSISTENT.
21:15:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FAIR ENOUGH.
21:15:28 MR. HUSAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEEL THE NEED TO SAY
21:15:32 ANYTHING AS RELATED TO THIS AND/OR THE OTHER PLAT MAP,
21:15:36 THE ORIGINAL PLAT MAP.
21:15:38 BUT IF YOU WISH TO, WE'RE GIVING YOU THE OPPORTUNITY.
21:15:41 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.
21:15:43 ZAIN HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
21:15:45 NUMBER ONE, THE REPORTS WERE PROVIDED LAST THURSDAY, A
21:15:48 WEEK AGO.
21:15:49 THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
21:15:50 NUMBER TWO, PROVING THAT THE CONFORMING MAP IS PROVIDED
21:15:55 BY THE CITY STAFF MAPPING DEPARTMENT.
21:15:57 WE FIRST LOOK AT THE 1,320 FEET RADIUS, SUBJECT PROPERTY,
21:16:04 AND THEN WE TAPER IN.
21:16:05 WE TAPER INTO THE BLOCK, THE BLOCK FACE, BOTH SIDES OF
21:16:10 THE STREET SO IT'S MORE CONCENTRATED TO WHAT THE
21:16:13 NEIGHBORHOOD AREA HAS AROUND IT WITHIN THE 1,320 FEET.
21:16:17 BUT THIS IS FROM OUR MAPPING DEPARTMENT HERE WITH THE
21:16:19 CITY.
21:16:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
21:16:23 ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD?
21:16:29 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: NOT AT THIS TIME, NO.
21:16:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ, ANYTHING YOU WANT
21:16:34 TO ADD?
21:16:35 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THANK YOU, MR. DINGFELDER.
21:16:37 SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
21:16:39 I DID WANT TO COMMENT IN RESPONSE TO MR. ROBLES' POINTING
21:16:45 OUT OF THE PRIOR APPROVED PD.
21:16:46 AS COUNCIL IS WELL AWARE, YOU HAVE TO EVALUATE EACH
21:16:50 REZONING APPLICATION ON ITS OWN MERITS WITH THE SPECIFIC
21:16:53 LOCATION AND THE SITE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT AND NOT ANY
21:16:56 PRIOR REZONINGS WHICH ARE IRRELEVANT TO YOUR
21:16:59 CONSIDERATION OF THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
21:17:01 IT'S HARD FOR ME TO TELL.
21:17:03 YOU CAN SEE I'VE GOT MY READING GLASSES ON.
21:17:05 I CAN HARDLY READ ANY OF THIS.
21:17:09 SO THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD MAKE AS FAR AS THE PLATTED
21:17:13 LOTS, I MEAN, TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE ARE ANY REMAINING
21:17:19 PLATTED LOTS THAT ARE LESS THAN 50 FEET IN THIS RS 50
21:17:24 ZONING DISTRICT, I DON'T KNOW, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY
21:17:28 TESTIMONY THAT THEY WERE RE-CREATED OR WHETHER OR NOT
21:17:32 THEY WERE DEVELOPED AS ORIGINALLY PLATTED.
21:17:36 IN THIS CASE, THIS LOT, AGAIN, AS WE HAD SAID BEFORE, WAS
21:17:39 NOT DEVELOPED AS ORIGINALLY PLATTED.
21:17:42 AND IT'S CREATED THIS NONCONFORMITY, ACTUALLY TWO
21:17:46 NONCONFORMITIES IF THIS APPLICATION IS APPROVED BOTH WITH
21:17:50 THE RE-CREATING OF THE SUBSTANDARD LOT, WHICH DOES NOT
21:17:53 MEET THE MINIMUM LOT STANDARDS FOR THIS ZONING DISTRICT
21:17:56 OR FOR ANY ZONING DISTRICT, REALLY.
21:17:59 THE RS 50, AS YOU KNOW, IS THE SMALLEST ZONING LOT WITHIN
21:18:03 THE CITY.
21:18:04 WHEN THERE WAS UNIFIED OWNERSHIP, THERE WEREN'T ANY
21:18:06 NONCONFORMITIES.
21:18:07 THERE WAS ONE UNIFIED LOT THAT MET THE MINIMUM ZONING LOT
21:18:12 SIZE AND STANDARDS, AND THE RESULT OF THIS WOULD BE THAT
21:18:16 WE WOULD HAVE TWO LOTS THAT NOW WOULD BE NONCONFORMING.
21:18:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
21:18:23 ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION TO STAFF OR TO MR. ROBLES?
21:18:27 I HAVE A QUESTION.
21:18:30 MR. ROBLES, DO YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER, MR. AND
21:18:34 MRS. SIBBOTS WITH YOU AS PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION?
21:18:38 >> NO, I DO NOT.
21:18:40 MRS. SIBBOTS IS HOME WITH COVID.
21:18:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OH, I'M SORRY.
21:18:44 MY CONCERN AND MY QUESTION, MR. ROBLES, IS I THINK STAFF
21:18:53 OR LEGAL STAFF IS INDICATING THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A
21:18:57 SELF-IMPOSED HARDSHIP HERE, THE LOT WAS SPLIT OUT.
21:19:01 NOW, GRANTED, IT WASN'T DONE YESTERDAY.
21:19:04 I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT YEAR, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT
21:19:07 WAS A WHILE BACK, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO, SOMETHING
21:19:11 LIKE THAT.
21:19:12 IF MS. SIBBOTS WAS HERE, I WOULD ASK HER WAS SHE AWARE
21:19:17 THAT SHE WAS CREATING A NONCONFORMING LOT 40 SOMETHING
21:19:21 FEET WIDE IN AN RS 50.
21:19:23 HAVE YOU HAD A DISCUSSION -- I THINK WE CAN BE LOOSE ON
21:19:28 HEARSAY IN THIS QUASI-JUDICIAL FORUM.
21:19:30 HAVE YOU HAD A DISCUSSION WITH HER ON THAT ISSUE?
21:19:33 >> YES, SIR.
21:19:34 IN FACT, I DID.
21:19:36 SHE WAS UNAWARE THAT SHE CREATED AN ILLEGAL,
21:19:42 NONCONFORMING LOT.
21:19:43 SHE OWNED THREE LOTS.
21:19:45 SHE WENT TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER.
21:19:46 THE PROPERTY APPRAISER ACCEPTED IT AND ASSIGNED A NEW
21:19:50 FOLIO NUMBER TO IT.
21:19:51 SO I THINK IN SENSITIVITY TO ALL OF IT, SOME OF THOSE
21:19:56 RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE PRETTY INTRICATE, AND I CAN'T
21:20:02 IMAGINE THAT A LAYPERSON THAT'S WORKING ON IT THAT OWNS
21:20:06 LOTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY KNOW THAT
21:20:12 THEY WERE CREATING A NONCONFORMING LOT BY SELLING LOT TWO
21:20:17 AND THREE AND RETAINING LOT ONE.
21:20:22 SO MUCH SO THAT WHEN SHE WENT TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S
21:20:25 OFFICE THEY ASSIGNED A DERIVATIVE FOLIO NUMBER TO THAT
21:20:29 PIECE OF PROPERTY.
21:20:30 NOW, I THINK TODAY'S STANDARDS, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER
21:20:32 DOES NOT ASSIGN FOLIO NUMBERS AND REFUSES TO INGEST THEM
21:20:36 WITHOUT SOME DETERMINATION FROM CITY AND ZONING THAT
21:20:41 GIVES THE PROPERTY APPRAISER COMFORT IN ISSUING A
21:20:44 DERIVATIVE FOLIO NUMBER.
21:20:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR THE RECORD, WHAT WAS THE YEAR OF
21:20:52 THE SEPARATION?
21:20:53 >> CHAIRMAN DINGFELDER, I CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU THAT.
21:20:55 I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN A TIME THAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER
21:20:58 WOULD SPLIT ANYTHING.
21:20:59 AND NOW THEY DON'T.
21:21:01 I CAN'T TELL YOU WHEN THAT OCCURRED.
21:21:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ?
21:21:06 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: ACCORDING TO THE PROPERTY
21:21:08 APPRAISER'S RECORDS, THE LOT ONE WAS SOLD IN DECEMBER OF
21:21:12 2018.
21:21:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
21:21:15 IT WASN'T FOREVER AGO.
21:21:16 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I'M SORRY.
21:21:18 LOTS TWO AND THREE WERE SOLD IN 2018.
21:21:20 SO THAT IS WHEN THE NONCONFORMINGS WERE CREATED.
21:21:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS WRONG.
21:21:25 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMING UP ON THREE YEARS.
21:21:28 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO,
21:21:31 CORRECT.
21:21:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY ONLY OTHER CONCERN,
21:21:35 MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ, IS HERE WE ARE TODAY WITH A
21:21:40 NONCONFORMING LOT.
21:21:41 IF WE DENY IT, AREN'T WE DENYING ALL REASONABLE
21:21:44 BENEFICIAL USE IN TERMS OF THAT LOT THAT'S NOW OWNED BY
21:21:49 SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T OWN THE ADJACENT LOTS?
21:21:52 I JUST HAVE A LEGAL CONCERN WITH AN OUTRIGHT DENIAL ON
21:22:01 THAT --
21:22:02 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THEY PREVIOUSLY OWNED THE OTHER
21:22:05 TWO LOTS.
21:22:06 THEY PREVIOUSLY OWNED ALL THREE LOTS.
21:22:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
21:22:11 SO YOU'RE SAYING IT WOULD BE A SELF-IMPOSED HARDSHIP IF
21:22:14 THEY TRIED TO MAKE THAT CLAIM.
21:22:17 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I'M SORRY.
21:22:19 I DIDN'T HEAR THE LAST PART.
21:22:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU'RE SAYING IT WOULD BE A
21:22:21 SELF-IMPOSED HARDSHIP IF THEY MADE THAT CLAIM.
21:22:26 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I BELIEVE SO.
21:22:27 THIS IS A SELF-CREATED SITUATION.
21:22:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
21:22:31 ALL RIGHT.
21:22:32 SORRY FOR RAMBLING THIS EVENING, GENTLEMEN.
21:22:36 ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
21:22:38 IS THERE ANYBODY THERE TO SPEAK?
21:22:40 ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
21:22:47 >> AILEEN ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
21:22:51 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
21:22:54 THANK YOU.
21:22:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RYAN MANASSE.
21:23:01 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.
21:23:01 I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE THING JUST TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR
21:23:01 IS THAT MR. ROBLES IS CORRECT, AND I BELIEVE YOU ALLUDED
21:23:04 TO THAT AS WELL, TOO, SIR, THIS PD IS THE ONLY WAY THIS
21:23:07 LOT CAN BE BUILDABLE.
21:23:09 ALTHOUGH STAFF HAS ITS OPINIONS, BASED OFF OUR STAFF
21:23:13 REPORT AND OUR FINDINGS, THEY ARE IN THE ONLY PROCESS TO
21:23:16 GET THIS LOT BUILDABLE.
21:23:18 I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD.
21:23:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
21:23:25 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
21:23:28 NOBODY IN THE COMMUNITY IS HERE TO SPEAK.
21:23:30 THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
21:23:32 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
21:23:34 ANY OPPOSED?
21:23:34 WE ARE CLOSED.
21:23:36 I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM 10, REZ 21-66.
21:23:42 MR. MANISCALCO.
21:23:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
21:23:46 I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
21:23:48 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
21:23:51 GENERAL VICINITY OF 3002 NORTH WOODROW AVENUE IN THE CITY
21:23:54 OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
21:23:57 SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50
21:24:00 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
21:24:04 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED); PROVIDING AN
21:24:06 EFFECTIVE DATE.
21:24:07 I BELIEVE THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A UNIQUE SITUATION AS
21:24:11 ALREADY EXPLAINED.
21:24:12 THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE THIS REALLY BUILDABLE IS TO MAKE IT
21:24:16 A PD.
21:24:18 SO THIS IS, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND WHAT THE APPLICANT
21:24:23 HAS MENTIONED IN OTHER TESTIMONY THAT PD IS THE ONLY WAY
21:24:29 -- ONE OF THE ONLY WAYS TO MAKE THIS LOT WORK.
21:24:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
21:24:36 WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
21:24:37 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
21:24:39 NO DISCUSSION.
21:24:41 ROLL CALL VOTE.
21:24:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
21:24:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
21:24:48 AND THE ROCK AND THE HARD PLACE COMES TO MIND.
21:24:52 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
21:24:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
21:24:54 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
21:24:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
21:24:58 >> AND GUDES?
21:24:59 MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO.
21:25:02 GUDES BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
21:25:03 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER
21:25:05 30th AT 9:30 A.M.
21:25:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. HUSAIN, I'LL SPEAK ON BEHALF OF
21:25:13 ALL CITY COUNCIL, WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.
21:25:15 DON'T FEEL DEJECTED ON THIS CONCLUSION, AND KEEP UP THE
21:25:18 GOOD WORK.
21:25:19 THANK YOU, MR. ROBLES.
21:25:22 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
21:25:23 I APPRECIATE IT.
21:25:24 I'M THE LAST ONE.
21:25:27 DO YOU WANT ME TO TURN OFF THE LIGHTS ON THE WAY OUT OR
21:25:30 WHAT?
21:25:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
21:25:31 SOMETHING ABOUT THE DOOR THERE.
21:25:33 ANYTHING ELSE?
21:25:37 WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS, MR. MANISCALCO.
21:25:39 MR. SHELBY?
21:25:43 BILL?
21:25:45 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, HOPEFULLY A QUICK ONE.
21:25:47 YOU ALL WILL REMEMBER A FEW WEEKS AGO I MADE A MOTION TO
21:25:51 PUT ON SEPTEMBER 23rd A DISCUSSION ABOUT TO HAVE
21:25:56 NONPROFITS WHO ARE BENEFITING THE CUBAN PEOPLE TO COME
21:25:59 BEFORE US.
21:26:00 SINCE THAT MOTION WAS MADE, NO NONPROFITS HAVE CONTACTED
21:26:04 US.
21:26:07 INITIAL SEARCH BY MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE HAS NOT TURNED UP
21:26:12 ANY -- MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE IS ABOUT TO GO OUT ON
21:26:14 MATERNITY LEAVE, SO I WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE THAT
21:26:21 CONVERSATION.
21:26:22 AND I WOULD JUST SAY IF THERE ARE ANY NONPROFITS THAT ARE
21:26:24 DOING THAT, PLEASE CONTACT ME AND IN THE SHORT TERM, I
21:26:27 COULD POST ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA AND MAYBE MY OTHER
21:26:30 COLLEAGUES WOULD AS WELL.
21:26:31 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THAT ITEM
21:26:36 AND THEN TO COME BACK AND SET A DATE SOMETIME IN THE
21:26:39 FUTURE WHEN WE HAVE A NONPROFITS TO PRESENT.
21:26:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU WANT TO JUST MOVE TO STRIKE THE
21:26:46 MOTION AND THEN WHEN YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK, BRING IT
21:26:49 BACK.
21:26:50 MARTY DOESN'T LIKE TO LEAVE THINGS HANGING OUT THERE.
21:26:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO REMOVE
21:26:59 IT FROM THE AGENDA AND THEN RESCHEDULE WHEN YOU FEEL
21:27:02 APPROPRIATE, OTHER THAN HAVE IT CONTINUED TO A DATE, IT
21:27:06 FALLS INTO AN ABYSS GENERALLY.
21:27:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF YOU WANT TO PICK A DATE IN THE
21:27:10 FUTURE JUST TO HAVE A PLACE HOLDER.
21:27:12 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD RATHER CONTINUE IT AND COME BACK
21:27:15 TO YOU WITH A DATE LATER.
21:27:17 IF WE HAVE TO DO IT THE OTHER WAY, THAT'S FINE.
21:27:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE CLERK DOESN'T LIKE THAT EITHER.
21:27:23 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD RECOMMEND AT THIS POINT THAT WE
21:27:26 POSTPONE IT AND THEN I'LL COME BACK IN THE FUTURE WITH
21:27:30 ANOTHER DATE.
21:27:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
21:27:32 SO THE MOTION IS TO STRIKE IT FROM THE AGENDA ON
21:27:38 SEPTEMBER 23rd.
21:27:40 AND MR. CARLSON WILL COME BACK TO US WITH A LATER DATE.
21:27:43 THERE IS A SECOND FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
21:27:46 ANY COMMENTS?
21:27:48 MR. VIERA, ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT?
21:27:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, NO COMMENTS.
21:27:52 I'M GOOD.
21:27:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL IN FAVOR?
21:27:54 ANY OPPOSED?
21:27:55 MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
21:27:58 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S IT, THANK YOU.
21:27:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CITRO.
21:28:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HOPE THAT WE ALL REMEMBER THAT WE ARE
21:28:03 APPROACHING THE 20th ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11.
21:28:06 AND IF WE COULD GIVE THANKS FOR THOSE WHO GAVE THEIR
21:28:08 LIVES FOR PROTECTING OTHERS IN NEW YORK CITY,
21:28:11 PENNSYLVANIA, AND WASHINGTON, D.C., AND ALSO THANK THE
21:28:15 FIRST RESPONDERS THAT ARE SERVING US AND KEEPING US SAFE
21:28:18 TODAY.
21:28:18 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
21:28:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL STATED AND THANK YOU FOR THE
21:28:22 REMINDER.
21:28:23 MR. MIRANDA.
21:28:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO A
21:28:26 FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER WHO TURNED 88.
21:28:28 MR. JOE --
21:28:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GRECO?
21:28:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, BUT YOU ARE GETTING CLOSE.
21:28:40 CAETANO.
21:28:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOE CAETANO.
21:28:51 ANY OTHER BUSINESS, MADAM CLERK?
21:28:53 MR. VIERA.
21:28:57 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
21:28:58 I'M LAUGHING THAT WHEN YOU CALLED ON ME ON THE CUBA
21:29:01 THING, I'M LIKE, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR CONTROVERSY?
21:29:03 [ LAUGHTER ]
21:29:04 OF COURSE, I'M JOKING.
21:29:06 I WANTED TO MENTION, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS GENTLEMAN VERY
21:29:09 WELL, BUT WE WOULD SEE HIM AT CITY COUNCIL, STEVE
21:29:12 MEADOWS, THAN OF PORT TAMPA, DID ANY OF YOU KNOW HIM VERY
21:29:19 WELL?
21:29:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I REMEMBER HIM, YES.
21:29:20 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE THAT IT APPEARS
21:29:25 THAT HE PASSED.
21:29:29 YES, JUST IF ANYBODY, THE DISTRICT COUNCILMEN OR
21:29:33 CITYWIDE, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DO ANYTHING, I JUST BRING
21:29:35 THAT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION, OBVIOUSLY.
21:29:37 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
21:29:38 I HADN'T SEEN THAT YET.
21:29:39 >>LUIS VIERA: CHECK ON THE THAN Facebook AND YOU'LL SEE
21:29:45 IT IN CASE YOU WANT TO DO ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL.
21:29:49 SEEMED LIKE A NICE GENTLEMAN.
21:29:51 HE WOULD COME OVER HERE AND GIVE US HELL SOMETIMES.
21:29:54 GOD REST HIS SOUL.
21:29:55 SECOND, I WAS GOING TO MAKE THIS MOTION LAST WEEK BUT I
21:29:58 DIDN'T HAVE THE NICE LADY NAME.
21:30:00 I WANTED TO HAVE A FIVE-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON APRIL
21:30:02 7th OF 2022 FROM TIFFANY DAVIS ON SEXUAL ASSAULT
21:30:06 AWARENESS MONTH.
21:30:07 I MET HER ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO AND SUCH A NICE LADY WITH A
21:30:12 COMPELLING PERSONAL STORY THAT SHE SHARES PUBLICLY.
21:30:14 I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR HER TO SPEAK TO US ON
21:30:17 THAT ISSUE.
21:30:20 APRIL 7, 2022.
21:30:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE A LENGTH OF TIME ASSOCIATED
21:30:26 WITH THAT?
21:30:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FIVE MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
21:30:29 REGULAR MEETING.
21:30:30 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, PLEASE.
21:30:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. VIERA MOTION.
21:30:35 MR. CITRO SECONDED IT.
21:30:36 ANY DISCUSSION?
21:30:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:30:38 ANY OPPOSED?
21:30:39 THANK YOU, MR. VIERA.
21:30:40 ANYTHING ELSE?
21:30:42 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING, SIR.
21:30:43 THANK YOU.
21:30:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
21:30:44 I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING.
21:30:47 >> RECEIVE AND FILE.
21:30:48 >> SECOND.
21:30:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
21:30:50 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:30:52 ANY OPPOSED?
21:30:52 THANK YOU.
21:30:53 HAVE A GOOD EVENING AND GO BUCS.
21:30:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE ADJOURNED, SIR.
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