TAMPA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL CALL MEETING
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, 2021
4:00 P.M.
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16:01:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL CALLED
16:01:15 SESSION WILL COME TO ORDER ON SEPTEMBER 13, 2021, 4 P.M.
16:01:16 MR. SHELBY.
16:01:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
16:01:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THE RULES OF THE
16:01:21 DAY, AND WE WILL GO WITH A ROLL CALL?
16:01:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
16:01:27 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
16:01:33 TODAY IS THE 13TH OF SEPTEMBER 2021, AFTER 4:00, AND A
16:01:39 SPECIALLY CALLED MEETING WITH A LIVE QUORUM OF CITY
16:01:40 COUNCIL.
16:01:43 AND GUIDANCE STANDARDS ARE IN EFFECT.
16:01:45 THE MEMBERS OF PUBLIC HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE
16:01:48 VIRTUALLY THROUGH WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS FLORIDA
16:01:51 STATUTES OF RULES OF COMMUNICATION AS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY.
16:01:55 NOW AS YOU RECALL, COUNCIL, THE PURPOSE OF THIS SPECIAL
16:01:58 CALLED MEETING IS TO COMPLETE THE SELECTION PROCESS FOR
16:02:02 CITY COUNCIL'S APPOINTMENT FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD
16:02:04 OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
16:02:07 THIS IS CONTINUED FROM THE THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 9, 2021,
16:02:10 5:01 P.M. MEETING.
16:02:14 THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO WATCH, LISTEN AND VIEW THIS ON
16:02:16 SPECTRUM 640 AND FRONTIER CHANNEL 15.
16:02:21 AND ON THE INTERNET AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
16:02:26 NOW THE MEMBERS -- EXCUSE ME, THE APPLICANTS FOR THESE
16:02:30 POSITIONS -- AND THE CLERK HAS THE LIST AVAILABLE.
16:02:32 SOME ARE AVAILABLE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
16:02:35 SOME ARE AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY FOR QUESTIONS, AND THOSE
16:02:39 THAT DID NOT PARTICIPATE FOR AN INTERVIEW PER COUNCIL'S
16:02:42 DIRECTION WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT.
16:02:50 NOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, AS WELL, IF YOU NOTICE,
16:02:55 IF THERE ARE ANY PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SPEAK, THEY ARE
16:02:59 ABLE TO SPEAK BEFORE THE VOTE ON COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA
16:03:02 TECHNOLOGY WHICH IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC BY THE CITY
16:03:08 OF TAMPA DURING THIS MEETING AT OLD CITY HALL, 315
16:03:10 KENNEDY BOULEVARD, ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND THOSE
16:03:14 ATTENDING THE MEETING IN PERSON SHOULD WEAR FACE MASKS
16:03:17 INSIDE OLD CITY HALL AND PERHAPS AFTER AN INTRODUCTION
16:03:21 BY MISS PETTIS-MACKLE, WE CAN JUST ASK IF THERE WILL
16:03:23 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH
16:03:25 COUNCIL'S DECISION.
16:03:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
16:03:30 ROLL CALL.
16:03:34 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
16:03:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE,
16:03:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE,
16:03:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE,
16:03:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
16:03:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
16:03:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM DEPUTY CLERK.
16:03:50 ATTORNEY PETTIS-MACKLE WILL GO OVER THE PROCEDURE AND
16:03:56 REFERENCE TO THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD, WHICH SHE IS THE
16:03:57 CITY ATTORNEY OVER THAT BOARD.
16:04:00 YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, MA'AM.
16:04:02 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS OF
16:04:05 THE BOARD, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE, ASSISTANT STATE
16:04:08 ATTORNEY AS MR. GUDES JUST STATED.
16:04:10 I REPRESENT THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
16:04:16 THIS IS CONTINUATION FOR CITY COUNCIL TO SELECT THEIR
16:04:18 NOMINEE FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
16:04:21 AS AN UPDATE, THERE WERE THREE APPLICANTS THAT WERE NOT
16:04:24 ABLE TO ATTEND THE SEPTEMBER 9 HEARING.
16:04:34 THOSE ARE BIANCA BROOKS, LEE LOWRY AND CARLOS VALDES.
16:04:38 TWO ARE APPEARING VIRTUALLY AND ONE IN PERSON.
16:04:41 TWO APPLICANTS APPEARING IN PERSON IF CITY COUNCIL HAS
16:04:44 ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS TO ASK -- TO ASK THEM.
16:04:49 I DID NOT RECEIVE A RESPONSE AGAIN FROM EDWARD MILTON.
16:04:53 SO NEITHER THE CLERK NOR MYSELF HAS RECEIVED A RESPONSE
16:04:56 FROM MR. MILTON TO CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE DURING THIS
16:04:57 PROCESS.
16:05:01 KATHLEEN MCCAREY HAS WITHDRAWN HER NAME AS
16:05:04 CONSIDERATION FOR THE POSITION FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW
16:05:05 BOARD.
16:05:11 AND CARLOS TIRADO UPDATED THE CLERK AND MYSELF THAT HE
16:05:13 IS UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING.
16:05:18 TO PROCEED FORWARD, IF I MAY INTRODUCE CARLOS VALDES.
16:05:21 HE IS HERE TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF TO MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
16:05:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MAY.
16:05:26 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THANK YOU.
16:05:29 MR. VALDES.
16:05:30 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
16:05:33 I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ MY LETTER THAT I SUBMITTED LAST
16:05:35 WEEK ON SEPTEMBER 8.
16:05:39 MY NAME IS CARLOS VALDES, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF AMI
16:05:40 KIDS TAMPA.
16:05:43 I AM SUBMITTING THIS LETTER FOR MY SINCERE APOLOGIES FOR
16:05:44 BEING UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS EVENING.
16:05:48 I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY INTEREST IN BEING PART OF
16:05:50 THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
16:05:55 MY COMPANY AND PARTNERS REALIZE THE INEQUITIES OF THAT
16:05:58 FEED THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE FOR MANY GROUP,
16:06:00 PARTICULARLY OF COLOR.
16:06:04 75 TO 80% WE SERVE ARE YOUTH OF COLOR.
16:06:07 GIVEN OUR UNIQUE POSITION TO POSITIVELY IMPACT YOUTH
16:06:10 WHO HAVE BEEN NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY VARIOUS SYSTEMS,
16:06:16 WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A BRIDGE-BREAKING PROGRAM CALLED
16:06:17 "BRIDGING BARRIERS."
16:06:20 HEALTHY COMMUNICATION, MUTUAL TRUST AND UNDERSTANDING
16:06:23 BETWEEN YOUTH AND EXPECTED BY A COMMUNITY.
16:06:28 THIS INITIATIVE TRANSFORMS HOW I AND KIDS INTERACT WITH
16:06:31 COMMUNITY TO CONNECT WITH COMMUNITY LEADERS TO VOICE
16:06:33 THEIR THOUGHTS AND MAKE SENSE OF OUR WORLD.
16:06:36 AS A LEAD MEMBER OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE FOR THE
16:06:39 BREAKING BARRIERS INITIATIVE, I WOULD LIKE TO BUILD
16:06:41 UPON WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH OUR YOUTH AND A WORKING
16:06:45 BOARD THAT ENHANCES TRUST BETWEEN THE TAMPA POLICE
16:06:45 DEPARTMENT AND OUR COMMUNITY.
16:06:48 OUR STUDENTS HAVE ARTICULATED FEAR AND UNTRUSTWORTHINESS
16:06:52 WHEN DEALING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.
16:06:56 AND THEY WANT TO DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS AND LEARNINGS.
16:06:59 IF I AM ABLE TO SEE THIS, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE
16:07:01 COMMUNITIES WILL AS WELL.
16:07:05 IN BEING A MEMBER OF THE BOARD, I WILL BE ACTIVE AND
16:07:08 WORK DILIGENTLY TO HELP WITH RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE TAMPA
16:07:09 POLICE DEPARTMENT.
16:07:10 THANK YOU.
16:07:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
16:07:14 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?
16:07:19 MR. DINGFELDER AND THEN WE WILL GO TO MR. VIERA.
16:07:21 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ARE YOU, SIR?
16:07:21 >> GOOD.
16:07:22 HOW ARE YOU DOING?
16:07:25 >>LUIS VIERA: GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR.
16:07:28 TELL US IN YOUR WORK AND ORGANIZATION, HOW DOES THAT
16:07:31 EFFECT HOW YOU WILL SEE YOUR ROLE ON THIS BOARD IN
16:07:33 TERMS OF WORKING WITH YOUTH, ETC.
16:07:36 I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, SO I WILL JUST
16:07:38 STOP THE QUESTIONS.
16:07:42 >> SO IT WILL BE AN HONOR TO SIT ON A BOARD TO GIVE A
16:07:44 VOICE WHEN MAKING DIFFERENT DECISIONS AND LOOKING AT
16:07:48 DIFFERENT CASES THAT MAY HAVE HAD SOME TYPES OF ISSUES
16:07:51 WITH POLICY PROCEDURES AND CIVIL ARREST.
16:07:55 WORKING WITH OUR KIDS IS ABLE TO BE THAT VOICE IN THE
16:07:57 COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY WITH OUR JUVENILE OFFENDERS.
16:08:00 BEING THAT VOICE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE AT TIMES, BEING
16:08:04 ABLE TO CHAMPION THEM, AND BEING ABLE TO CARRY THE TORCH
16:08:08 FOR THEM REALLY WILL BE IMPACTFUL FOR MYSELF AND THE
16:08:09 BOARD AND AMI KIDS.
16:08:12 AS FAR AS LEADERSHIP WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION, YOU KNOW,
16:08:15 I HAVE SPOKEN WITH OUR LEADERSHIP, AND THEY ARE IN FULL
16:08:17 SUPPORT AND REALLY SUPPORTS THE INITIATIVE THAT WE ARE
16:08:23 DOING WITH BREAKING BARRIERS.
16:08:26 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR, I APPRECIATE IT.
16:08:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
16:08:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST CURIOUS WITH REGARDS TO BLACK
16:08:34 LIVES MATTER AND THE FLOYD INCIDENT AND THE UNREST IN
16:08:35 OUR COUNTRY.
16:08:39 HOW DID THAT IMPACT YOU PERSONALLY?
16:08:44 AND WHAT -- HOW DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THIS OPENING?
16:08:45 >> ABSOLUTELY.
16:08:51 IT IMPACTED ME TREMENDOUSLY KNOWING THAT OUR
16:08:55 PARTICIPANTS AND KIDS WE WORK WITH WERE OUT THERE DOING
16:08:57 THINGS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING.
16:09:01 THAT IS ALL I WAS THINKING THAT EVENING WATCHING THE
16:09:01 TV.
16:09:05 I, MYSELF, HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BEING A HISPANIC MAN FROM
16:09:08 CUBAN DESCENT IN TERMS OF BEING PROFILED BACK IN MIAMI
16:09:08 WHERE I LIVED IN.
16:09:11 I HAVE HAD MY EXPERIENCE AS WELL AS IT RELATES TO LAW
16:09:17 ENFORCEMENT AND THAT ASPECT.
16:09:19 BUT DEFINITELY I LEARNED OF THE POSTING AND THE
16:09:23 OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON THE BOARD VIA SOCIAL MEDIA AND
16:09:27 FACEBOOK AND SAW AN AD AND A GREAT FIT FOR WHAT WE ARE
16:09:30 DOING CURRENTLY FOR THE BREAKING BARRIERS INITIATIVE,
16:09:33 FOR MYSELF AND FOR OUR KIDS.
16:09:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR, APPRECIATE IT.
16:09:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE.
16:09:38 MR. CITRO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
16:09:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THANK YOU, SIR.
16:09:45 ANY EXPERIENCES OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF LEAVE YOU
16:09:48 TOWARD ANY BIAS AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT?
16:09:50 >> ABSOLUTELY NOT, SIR.
16:09:52 IF I WERE TO TELL THAT YOU ALL POLICE OFFICERS ARE
16:09:53 GREAT, I WOULD BE LYING TO YOU.
16:09:56 AND IF I TELL YOU THAT ALL POLICE OFFICERS ARE
16:09:58 HORRIBLE, I WOULD BE LYING TO YOU AS WELL.
16:10:02 SO DEFINITELY I WORK WITH TREMENDOUS GROUP OF POLICE
16:10:05 OFFICERS THROUGH OUR BREAKING BARRIERS INITIATIVE THAT
16:10:09 I WISH WE COULD REPLICATE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE
16:10:11 NATION, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE, THE KEY PEOPLE,
16:10:14 THAT WE NEED TO MOVE THE NEEDLE FORWARD AS IT RELATES
16:10:17 TO THIS MATTER AND AS IT RELATES TO OUR YOUTH AND OUR
16:10:18 COMMUNITIES.
16:10:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
16:10:20 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
16:10:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
16:10:25 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. VALDES.
16:10:27 I WANT TO INDICATE.
16:10:31 YOU SAID THAT SOME OF YOUR YOUTH WHO WERE THERE MAY
16:10:34 HAVE BEEN DOING THINGS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN
6:10:40 ARE YOU TALKING OF PEACEFUL PROTESTING OR THE FOLKS --
16:10:43 THE FEW OUT THERE DOING ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND PROPERTY
16:10:44 DAMAGE?
16:10:47 >> ACTS OF CRIME AND VIOLENCE TOWARD STRUCTURES AND
16:10:47 WHAT NOT.
16:10:50 >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
16:10:53 I THINK IT IS OBVIOUS BECAUSE I WANTED TO CLARIFY IT.
16:10:54 >> ABSOLUTELY.
16:10:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
16:10:59 MR. CARLSON, YOU CAN RECOGNIZED.
16:11:03 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST BECAUSE ANYBODY WATCHING KNOWS,
16:11:04 WHAT IS AMI?
16:11:07 >> AMI IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION AND WORK WITH
16:11:09 JUVENILE OFFENDERS.
16:11:10 WE WORK WITH STUDENTS COMING THROUGH THE SCHOOL
16:11:11 DISTRICT.
16:11:13 THEY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS RED FLAGS, AND THEY ARE
16:11:16 PLACED WITH US TO WORK WITH THEM TO GET THEM BACK ON
16:11:19 TRACK ACADEMICALLY AND BEHAVIORALLY AND WE DO IT
16:11:23 THROUGH A PERSONAL GROWTH MODULE, BEHAVIORAL
16:11:26 MODIFICATION AND EDUCATION COMPONENT AND EDUCATION
16:11:31 SERVICES, IF WE GIVE YOUTH A JOB, THE CHANCES TO GET IN
16:11:36 TROUBLE OR REOFFEND GOES DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY.
16:11:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
16:11:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
16:11:43 I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION.
16:11:47 [SPEAKING SPANISH]
16:11:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SUPPOSE BY YOUR NAME YOU SPEAK
16:11:50 ANOTHER LANGUAGE.
16:11:52 BECAUSE WITH KIDS -- SOME OF THEM WHEN I WAS GROWING
16:11:53 UP.
16:11:55 I DIDN'T KNOW ENGLISH AT ALL.
16:11:55 NONE.
16:11:59 SO THERE IS A COMMUNICATION GAP TIMES BETWEEN A PERSON
16:12:02 OF AUTHORITY AND SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT
16:12:03 THEY ARE SAYING.
16:12:04 >> ABSOLUTELY.
16:12:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
16:12:07 >> YES, SIR.
16:12:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
16:12:09 ANYONE ELSE?
16:12:12 THANK YOU, SIR, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY COME FORWARDS US.
16:12:12 >> ABSOLUTELY.
16:12:14 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
16:12:16 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: IF I MAY CONTINUE, MR. CHAIR.
16:12:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MAY CONTINUE.
16:12:23 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: BIANCA BROOKS SHOULD BE WITH
16:12:25 US VIRTUALLY.
16:12:30 >>CLERK: BIANCA BROOKS IS NOT LOGGED ON AT THIS TIME.
16:12:33 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THE OTHER APPLICANT WAS LEE
16:12:35 LOWRY.
16:12:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DEPUTY CLERK?
16:12:40 ALL RIGHT, LEE LOWRY.
16:12:47 YOU MAY BEGINS WHEN READY.
16:12:56 I THINK YOU ARE MUTED.
16:12:58 STILL CAN'T HEAR YOU.
16:13:10 ANYTHING SHE NEEDS TO DO, MADAM?
16:13:14 >>CLERK: YOU MAY NEED TO UNMUTE YOUR PERSONAL DEVICE.
16:13:21 YOU ARE UNMUTED ON THE PLATFORM.
16:13:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STILL MUTED.
16:13:34 ANYTHING ELSE SHE CAN DO, MADAM CLERK?
16:13:40 WE ARE CHECKING TO MAKE SURE IT IS NOT ON OUR END.
16:13:43 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: JUST FOR CITY COUNCIL'S
16:13:52 REFERENCE, SUANNE BARLOW AND SCOTT BUSHWAY ARE PRESENT
16:14:00 IF COUNCIL HAS ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
16:14:18 WE ARE CHECKING ON OUR END TO MAKE SURE IT IS NOT ON
16:14:19 OUR END.
16:14:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM WONDERING IF SHE SHOULDN'T GO
16:14:24 OUT, CLEAR OUT, AND COME BACK IN.
16:14:34 YOU WANT TO GIVE A TRY, LEE?
16:14:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. DINGFELDER.
16:14:44 YOU MUST BE TECHNICALLY INCLINED.
16:14:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT AT ALL.
16:15:04 I JUST HAVE A SMART WIFE.
16:15:07 >> CAN YOU HEAR AND SEE ME NOW?
16:15:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF WE CAN GET THE VOLUME --
16:15:12 >> WORKED PERFECTLY BEFORE WE TESTED IT BEFORE THE
16:15:13 MEETING.
16:15:17 PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO BEGIN.
16:15:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN BEGIN NOW.
16:15:22 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, GENTLEMEN.
16:15:25 I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING ME APPEAR BEFORE YOU FOR THE
16:15:28 APPLICATION OF THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
16:15:31 I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE FIGHT AGAINST HUMAN
16:15:34 TRAFFICKING AND LAST WEEK WAS THE FIRST FUNDRAISER FOR
16:15:36 THAT STATEWIDE AGENCY.
16:15:39 AND THANK YOU FOR MY PREVIOUS COMMITMENT AND HAVING ME
16:15:40 THIS AFTERNOON.
16:15:44 AS A SIDE NOTE, I AM VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT MANY OF THE
16:15:46 TAMPA RESIDENTS ARE BEING INVOLVED WITH THIS
16:15:48 BOARD, AND I APPRECIATE THEM.
16:15:53 I WAS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER OF THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD
16:15:57 UNTIL 2020 WHEN I WAS APPOINTED TO A DIFFERENT BOARD.
16:16:02 THE CRB IS THE MOST IMPACTFUL BOARD TO BE APPOINTED.
16:16:06 EVEN THOUGH I WAS AN ALTERNATE, I ATTENDED EVERY
16:16:10 MEETING BECAUSE I TOOK THE PLACE OF AN ABSENT MEMBER
16:16:13 AND WANTED TO SUPPORT MY FELLOW MEMBERS.
16:16:17 FROM OUR MONTHLY REVIEW OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS CASES,
16:16:20 SURVEYING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT PERCEPTION OF THE TPD,
16:16:24 OUR COLLEAGUES AND I SPENT MANY HOURS TO REVIEW THE
16:16:27 DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE RESIDENTS ARE FREE FROM CRIME
16:16:29 AND TREATED FAIRLY BY OFFICERS.
16:16:33 AND THE SPECIFICS ACTIONS OF INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS AND
16:16:36 ASK TOUGH QUESTIONS OF WITNESSES ON ALL SIDES.
16:16:41 THROUGH EXTENSIVE TRAINING AND RIDE-ALONGS, WE GET A
16:16:44 GLIMPSE OF THE JOB OF OFFICERS.
16:16:48 THE JOB AND THE SPLIT DECISIONS THEY HAVE TO MAKE.
16:16:51 I AM PROUD OF MY PREVIOUS TIME ON THE BOARD AND FEEL IT
16:16:55 IS AN EXCELLENT ADDITION IF YOU INVITE ME AS A FULL
16:16:56 MEMBER.
16:17:00 I AM NOT SWAYED BY BIAS ON OTHER SAID OF THE ISSUE.
16:17:04 WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, I RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT THE
16:17:06 RIGHT VOICES SHOULD BE HEARD ON THE BOARD, AND I
16:17:09 ENCOURAGE YOU THAT THE BOARD TRULY REFLECTS OUR
16:17:10 COMMUNITY.
16:17:15 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
16:17:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
16:17:19 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
16:17:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MISS LOWRY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
16:17:26 SERVICE NOT ONLY ON THIS BOARD AND OUT IN THE COMMUNITY
16:17:29 AND THE OTHER ACTIVITIES AND BOARDS THAT YOU SERVE ON.
16:17:31 WE APPRECIATE IT.
16:17:36 THE BOARD WAS NOT THE BOARD -- BUT THE PROCESS AND THE
16:17:40 -- SOME OF THE RULES AND GUIDANCE OF THE BOARD WAS
16:17:49 OPERATING UNDER PREVIOUSLY CAME UNDER SOME CRITICISM IN
16:17:51 THE COMMUNITY, AND IT WASN'T DIRECTED TO INDIVIDUALS WHO
16:17:54 SERVED BUT GENERALLY THE RULES THAT WERE THERE AT THE
16:17:56 TIME AND WE WORKED VERY HARD WITH THE ADMINISTRATION
16:17:59 HOPEFULLY TO IMPROVE AND STRENGTHEN THE BOARD.
16:18:02 HAVE YOU BEEN FOLLOWING THAT PROCESS?
16:18:05 AND HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT?
16:18:06 >> SOME DEGREE.
16:18:10 I WON'T LIE TO SAY WE DIDN'T FEEL HAMSTRUNG IN
16:18:15 THE PAST FOR VARIOUS REASONS, THINGS TO DO WITH THE HR
16:18:17 DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA SOMETIMES.
16:18:21 I DO THINK AS IT IS BEING STRENGTHENED, BUT I ALSO
16:18:24 UNDERSTAND THERE ARE STATE THINGS INVOLVED THAT HAVE
16:18:27 NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT, YOU KNOW,
16:18:29 BOX THE BOARD IN FOR SOME DEGREE.
16:18:34 BUT I THINK ANY ADDITIONAL POWERS THAT THE GROUP CAN
16:18:38 HAVE IS CERTAINLY A POSITIVE.
16:18:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SUPER.
16:18:40 THANK YOU.
16:18:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
16:18:45 MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
16:18:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU KIND OF SAID THIS A MINUTE AGO,
16:18:50 BUT JUST TO ASK WITH THE POINT I AM AT.
16:18:53 CAN YOU TELL US SINCE A LOT OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES
16:18:56 HAVE NOT SERVED AS AN ALTERNATE ON THE BOARD.
16:19:04 WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF EXPERIENCE?
16:19:07 >> I GOT THROUGH BOTH SIDES THROUGHOUT OFFICERS AND YOU
16:19:15 DON'T HAVE A SENSE OF THE KIND OF THINGS WE ARE ASKING THOSE
16:19:17 GUYS AND WOMEN TO DO.
16:19:21 AT ONE TIME IT IS CUSTOMER SERVICE BUT THEN CAN BE IN
16:19:21 DANGER.
16:19:24 IT WAS A TOUGH PLACE BUT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME
16:19:27 THAT -- ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WAS THAT SURVEY
16:19:29 OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEE WHAT THE PERCEPTION WAS AND
16:19:32 HOPES OF IMPROVING THE PERCEPTION AND MAKING SURE THAT
16:19:35 THE OFFICERS REALIZE THAT BEING IN THE COMMUNITY,
16:19:38 GETTING FOLKS TO KNOW THEM IS ONE OF THE KEY PARTS OF
16:19:38 IT.
16:19:41 SO I THINK WE GOT TO KNOW THE COMMUNITY EVEN BETTER
16:19:44 THROUGH THE FOLKS THAT CAME TO THE MEETINGS AND GOT TO
16:19:48 KNOW THE OFFICERS AS WELL.
16:19:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
16:19:52 MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
16:19:56 >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I THINK IT
16:19:58 WAS SAID BEFORE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THIS
16:19:58 BOARD.
16:20:01 I CAN TELL BY THE WAY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IT THAT YOU
16:20:05 TOOK IT VERY SERIOUSLY AND YOU ARE VERY JUST
16:20:06 IMPASSIONED ABOUT IT.
16:20:08 I KNOW WE ALL AGREE WITH THIS.
16:20:09 BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
16:20:10 I MEAN THAT.
16:20:12 A LOT OF THESE BOARDS -- I WAS ON THE CIVIL SERVICE
16:20:16 REVIEW BOARD FOR EIGHT YEARS BEFOREHAND.
16:20:19 AND THOSE BOARDS SOMETIMES ARE VERY DIFFICULT AND
16:20:20 WHATNOT.
16:20:22 SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
16:20:23 >> THANK YOU.
16:20:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
16:20:26 ANYONE ELSE?
16:20:31 WELL, MISS LOWRY, WE THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THE
16:20:32 PROCESS.
16:20:36 >> THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
16:20:40 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MR. CHAIR --
16:20:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE,
16:20:46 MR. DINGFELDER, WE APPRECIATE THAT.
16:20:49 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MR. CHAIR, I AM NOT SURE IF
16:20:52 BIANCA BROOKS SIGNED ON.
16:20:54 >>CLERK: SHE HAS NOT SIGNED ON.
16:20:56 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: SHE PRESENTED HER
16:20:58 CONSIDERATION LAST WEEK, BUT THOSE ARE THE THREE
16:21:03 APPLICANTS THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO PARTICIPATE ON
16:21:04 SEPTEMBER 9.
16:21:07 IF COUNCIL HAS ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE PEOPLE
16:21:11 APPEARING VIRTUALLY OR THE TWO PREVIOUS APPLICANTS IN
16:21:16 PERSON, I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO ASSIST IN BRINGING THEM
16:21:17 AROUND.
16:21:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE READ THE
16:21:21 APPLICATIONS AND HEAR FROM THE APPLICANTS.
16:21:25 ARE YOU SATISFIED, GENTLEMEN?
16:21:29 I SEE THEM NOD THEIR HEADS.
16:21:32 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I BELIEVE MADAM CLERK HAS THE
16:21:34 BALLOT FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
16:21:38 IF MADAM CLERK CAN PASS OUT THE APPLICANT WITH THE
16:21:39 APPLICANT'S NAME.
16:21:48 AND AS A REMINDER THAT KATHLEEN MCCAREY WITHDRAWN.
16:21:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE IN POSSESSION OF THE BALLOTS.
16:21:51 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I AM SORRY.
16:21:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S OKAY.
16:21:57 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MADAM CLERK HAS THE PROCESS
16:21:58 FOR THE VOTES.
16:22:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE BALLOTS HAVE TO BE SIGNED.
16:22:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE BALLOTS HAVE TO BE SIGNED.
16:22:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEEDED TO BE PASSED OUT.
16:22:08 YOU THREW THAT THERE, AND I THOUGHT YOU WERE PUTTING
16:22:23 PAPER DOWN, SORRY.
16:22:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
16:22:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE YOU GO, MADAM CLERK.
16:22:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU NEED A BALLOT.
16:22:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MAILED MINE.
16:22:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU MAILED YOURS?
16:22:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMETHING WRONG IF YOU MAILED YOURS.
16:22:50 [LAUGHTER]
16:22:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE AND
16:22:56 WE JUST WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT TO EVERYBODY.
16:22:57 A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE.
16:22:58 GREAT PRESENTATIONS.
16:23:05 WE APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS.
16:23:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONLY ONE.
16:23:11 WE DID THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE MAYOR FOR APPROVAL.
16:23:36 ONE FOR US AND ONE FOR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
16:23:37 >>CLERK: SOMEONE DIDN'T SIGN.
16:23:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SIGNED.
16:23:53 I PUT AN X, I KNOW I SIGNED.
16:23:55 SEE THEY ALWAYS FAULT ME.
16:23:56 I CAN TAKE IT.
16:24:37 [LAUGHTER]
16:24:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW IT IS AN IMPORTANT DAY WHEN
16:24:43 YOU HAVE THE CLERK -- THE DEPUTY CLERK HERE.
16:24:56 AN IMPORTANT DAY.
16:25:32 THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
16:25:38 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES.
16:25:41 >>CLERK: NO ONE RECEIVED FOUR VOTES, AND WE NEED TO
16:25:43 HAVE ANOTHER ROUND.
16:25:50 IT IS BETWEEN CARLOS VALDES WHO RECEIVED THREE VOTES,
16:26:00 LEXI GILL WHO RECEIVED TWO VOTES, BRITTANY LAKHANI
16:26:05 RECEIVED ONE AND LEE LOWRY RECEIVED ONE.
16:26:11 WE NEED TO GET FOUR VOTES.
16:26:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COULD WE HAVE A RUNOFF BETWEEN
16:26:16 CARLOS AND LEXI?
16:26:19 >>CLERK: WE COULD BUT SOMEONE ELSE WOULD WANT TO VOTE
16:26:23 FOR THE OTHER ONES SO I WILL GIVE YOU -- PASS OUT THE
16:26:52 BALLOTS AGAIN.
16:26:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS EVERYONE GETTING A SECOND COPY, A
16:26:58 CLEAN BALLOT?
16:27:27 OKAY.
16:30:03 >>CLERK: IF YOU WILL VOTE FOR ONE OF THOSE FOUR.
16:30:12 >> SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES.
16:30:16 THE PERSON PICKED FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD IS
16:30:22 CARLOS MANUEL VALDES.
16:30:24 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MR. CHAIRMAN, HE IS STILL
16:30:30 HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO BRING HIM OVER.
16:30:32 HE IS HERE, MR. CHAIR.
16:30:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
16:30:36 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
16:30:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS FOR
16:30:39 COUNCILMEMBERS.
16:30:39 >> ABSOLUTELY.
16:30:42 LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL AND LOOKING
16:30:47 FORWARD TO ENHANCE OUR COMMUNITY AND REALLY JUST BE AS
16:30:47 A VOICE.
16:30:50 THANK YOU.
16:30:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
16:30:54 ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCILMEMBERS?
16:30:56 MR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
16:30:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS INITIALLY GOING TO VOTE FOR
16:31:01 SOMEONE ELSE, AND YOUR PRESENTATION WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE
16:31:05 AND CONVINCED ME TO CHANGE MY VOTE, AND I KNOW I MADE
16:31:09 THE RIGHT VOTE AND WISH YOU THE BEST AND I KNOW YOU
16:31:10 WILL SERVE WELL.
16:31:11 THANK YOU.
16:31:11 CONGRATULATIONS.
16:31:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA.
16:31:15 DID I SEE YOUR HAND.
16:31:18 >>LUIS VIERA: CONGRATULATIONS, MR. VALDES.
16:31:23 WHEN I SAW YOU AND MISS LOWRY, A VERY GOOD QUALITY
16:31:27 PERSON, AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE UNABLE TO SPEAK.
16:31:30 I THOUGHT IT WAS A SHAME BECAUSE YOU ALL BRING A LOT TO
16:31:32 THE TABLE, AND I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE YOU.
16:31:35 I KNOW YOU WILL DO A GREAT JOB IN THIS POSITION AND
16:31:36 GOOD VALUES.
16:31:41 I KNOW YOU HAVE SOCIAL CONSCIOUS, AND YOU WILL DO GREAT.
16:31:43 THANK YOU, SIR.
16:31:44 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
16:31:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
16:31:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. VALDES, WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE YOU
16:31:50 ON BOARD.
16:31:53 YOUR POSITION IN THE COMMUNITY, I THINK, ALREADY PROVES
16:31:57 TO US HOW MUCH YOU CARE.
16:32:01 AND -- AND CLEARLY YOU ARE GOING -- AS SOMEBODY ASKED
16:32:04 YOU, YOU ARE GOING TO WORK HARD TO BE AS UNBIASED AS
16:32:08 POSSIBLE AND FAIR AS POSSIBLE TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
16:32:12 I DO WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHOUT OUT TO THE
16:32:15 TEN OR SO OTHER FOLKS WHO DID APPLY.
16:32:17 SOME GREAT CANDIDATES.
16:32:20 I HOPE YOU DON'T GET DISCOURAGED, AND I HOPE YOU APPLY
16:32:24 FOR A FUTURE CRB POSITION OR FOR SOME OF THE OTHER
16:32:26 BOARD POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE REGULARLY.
16:32:29 IF YOU DIDN'T GET THIS ONE, CHECK WITH THE CLERK'S
16:32:32 OFFICE AND SEE WHAT OTHER BOARDS WE HAVE TO SERVE ON.
16:32:34 SIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH, CARLOS.
16:32:37 LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING NEW PERSON AND WORKING WITH YOU
16:32:38 IN THE FUTURE.
16:32:39 >> ABSOLUTELY.
16:32:41 LIKEWISE, SIR, THANK YOU.
16:32:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
16:32:44 MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
16:32:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A DIFFERENT SUBJECT AND MISS
16:32:48 PETTIS-MACKLE WILL ADDRESS IT AFTERWARDS.
16:32:51 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T SKIP IT.
16:32:52 SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
16:32:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME SAY THAT MR. VALDES.
16:33:00 WE HAD THE FIRST ROUND AND SECOND ROUND, AND YOUR
16:33:05 ADVOCACY WITH YOUNG PEOPLE, WORKING AT AMI -- TAKES --
16:33:06 I HAVE BEEN OVER THERE BEFORE.
16:33:09 AT THAT TAKES A LOT OF COURAGE TO UNDERSTAND YOUNG
16:33:12 PEOPLE BECAUSE THEIR MINDS ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN
16:33:16 WHEN I WAS A BOY GROWING UP, MR. DINGFELDER AND
16:33:17 ESPECIALLY MR. MIRANDA.
16:33:21 IT TAKES PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTANDS THE COMMUNITY AND THE
16:33:25 PULSE OF WHAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH, AND NOT HAVING
16:33:28 UNBIASED AGAINST THE POLICE TO BE ABLE TO CHALLENGE AND
16:33:31 TEACH AND LEARN THOSE PEOPLE THEIR WORKING WITH ABOUT
16:33:33 POLICE PROCEDURES, ABOUT THE POLICE.
16:33:36 SO I THINK THIS COULD BE A GREAT, GREAT WIN FOR ALL.
16:33:39 I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THE DISEASE
16:33:40 IF YOU DON'T WANT THE CURE.
16:33:44 SO THOSE WHO DIDN'T APPLY, SHAME ON THEM.
16:33:47 BUT THOSE WHO DID TAKE THE TIME OUT TO APPLY FOR THIS
16:33:52 MOST PRESTIGIOUS -- WHAT I CALL A TOP BOARD, I SAY THANK
16:33:52 YOU TO YOU.
16:33:54 BECAUSE THERE IS WORK TO BE DONE.
16:33:57 AND I AM SURE WE WILL GET IT DONE WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP.
16:34:01 THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, SIR.
16:34:03 >> ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU.
16:34:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ATTORNEY PETTIS-MACKLE, ARE YOU
16:34:06 READY?
16:34:08 YOU HAVE MORE HOUSEKEEPING TO DO?
16:34:10 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: YES, MR. CHAIR.
16:34:12 I PROVIDED A RESOLUTION.
16:34:15 IF MADAM CLERK CAN PASS IT AROUND.
16:34:18 A RESOLUTION TO REFLECT CITY COUNCIL'S NOMINATION OF
16:34:21 CARLOS VALDES.
16:34:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM LOOKING AT TWO RESOLUTIONS ON
16:34:24 THE DESK.
16:34:26 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I HAVE TO DO THE FIRST ONE
16:34:32 REGARDING MR. VALDES AND ANOTHER WALK ON AFTERWARDS.
16:34:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED AND MR. CITRO
16:34:37 SECONDED IT.
16:34:44 WE ARE VOTING ON MR. VALDES' APPOINTMENT.
16:34:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL VOTE.
16:34:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
16:34:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
16:34:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
16:34:50 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
16:34:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
16:34:53 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
16:34:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
16:34:57 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
16:34:59 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
16:35:03 THE NEXT RESOLUTION THAT I PROVIDED TO MADAM CLERK WITH
16:35:09 REGARDS TO THE SCRIVENER'S ERROR FOR THE NAACP
16:35:11 CANDIDATE THAT WAS SELECTED FOR THE BOARD.
16:35:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
16:35:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
16:35:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES.
16:35:19 ROLL CALL.
16:35:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
16:35:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
16:35:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
16:35:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
16:35:27 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
16:35:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
16:35:31 ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM?
16:35:34 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THAT'S IT.
16:35:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYTHING ELSE?
16:35:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
16:35:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE STAND ADJOURNED UNTIL 5:00.
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