TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 2021
3:00 P.M.
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09:03:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, CITIZENS OF
09:03:28 OF TAMPA AND THE CITY OF TAMPA SESSION.
09:03:30 SPECIAL CALLED AGENDA.
09:03:35 INVOCATION BY MR. DINGFELDER THIS MORNING.
09:03:42 MR. DINGFELDER?
09:03:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE YOU UP, MR. CHAIRMAN?
09:03:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE UP.
09:03:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING.
09:03:49 HOW ARE YOU, GUYS.
09:03:52 GOOD MORNING AND MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO INTRODUCE
09:03:54 THE INVOCATION THIS MORNING.
09:04:00 THE REVEREND JOHN REESE HAS BEEN THE RECTOR OF ST.
09:04:07 ANDREWS OF EPISCOPAL CHURCH SINCE 1995.
09:04:11 OLDEST EPISCOPAL CHURCH IN THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA
09:04:13 FOUNDED IN 1871.
09:04:16 BEFORE COMING TO TAMPA, HE SERVED IN A CHURCH IN
09:04:20 FREDONIA, WESTERN NEW YORK, FOR EIGHT YEARS AND BORN AND
09:04:23 RAISED IN NORTHERN NEW JERSEY A FEW MILES FROM MIDTOWN
09:04:23 MANISCALCO.
09:04:28 HE IS DOCTOR MIDTOWN MANHATTAN AND GRADUATE OF
09:04:31 THEOLOGICAL CEREMONY.
09:04:34 FATHER REESE SERVED FOUR YEARS IN THE U.S. ARMY AND
09:04:36 FIVE YEARS AS A DEPUTY SHERIFF IN COLORADO PATROLLING
09:04:39 THE STREETS OF SUBURBAN COLORADO SPRINGS.
09:04:43 HE HAS BEEN MARRIED TO JEANETTE SINCE 1986 AND THEY
09:04:47 HAVE A SON, HAMILTON, WHO I AM SORRY TO SAY IS AT
09:04:50 FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY -- I AM A GATOR.
09:04:51 GOOD JOB, HAMILTON.
09:04:57 ANYWAY, MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO ASK FATHER REESE TO
09:04:58 JOIN US.
09:05:01 GIVE THE INVOCATION AND FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF
09:05:02 ALLEGIANCE.
09:05:04 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:05:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:05:08 >> LET US PRAY.
09:05:12 OH MIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO BLESS OUR CITY WITH
09:05:15 HONORABLE INDUSTRY, SOUND LEARNING AND PURE MANNERS.
09:05:20 SAVE US FROM VIOLENCE, DISCORD, AND CONFUSION.
09:05:24 FROM PRIDE AND ARROGANCE AND FROM EVERY EVIL WAY.
09:05:28 DEFEND OUR LIBERTIES AND FASHION INTO ONE UNITED
09:05:32 PEOPLE, THE MULTITUDES BROUGHT BY MANY NATIONS AND
09:05:32 TONGUES.
09:05:37 GIVE THE SPIRIT OF WISDOM WHO IN YOUR NAME WE TRUST THE
09:05:40 AUTHORITY OF GOVERNMENT THAT WE MAY BRING JUSTICE AND
09:05:44 PEACE AND THAT THROUGH OBEDIENCE THROUGH YOUR LAW SHOW
09:05:47 YOUR PRAISE AMONG ALL THE PEOPLES WE IMMEDIATE.
09:05:50 ALMIGHTY GOD OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, SEND DOWN ACROSS
09:05:57 BILL, JOSEPH, JOHN, ORLANDO, GUIDO, CHARLIE AND LUIS
09:06:01 THE SPIRIT OF WISDOM, CHARITY AND JUSTICE.
09:06:05 THAT WITH STEADFAST PURPOSE THEY MAY FAITHFULLY SERVE
09:06:08 IN THEIR OFFICES TO PROMOTE THE WELL BEING OF ALL THE
09:06:10 PEOPLE OF TAMPA.
09:06:15 IN THE NAME OF GOD WE PRAY, AMEN.
09:06:27 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:06:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
09:06:33 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:06:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:06:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:06:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:06:37 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:06:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:06:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:06:44 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL FORUM.
09:06:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
09:06:49 MARTIN SHELBY.
09:06:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING, THIS IS MARTIN SHELBY,
09:06:55 CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:07:00 THE PUBLIC LIVE AND VIRTUAL PUBLIC HEARING HELD WITH A
09:07:03 PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT IN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND
09:07:05 BEING CONDUCTED FOR THE PURPOSE OF AFFORDING RESIDENTS
09:07:08 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND OTHER INTERESTED
09:07:10 PERSONS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS ORALLY
09:07:15 AND IN WRITING ON THE PROPOSED ISSUANCE OF THE CITY OF
09:07:20 TAMPA CELADON OBLIGATED GROUP REVENUE BONDS.
09:07:24 AND THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARING.
09:07:30 IT IS AVAILABLE TO BE SEEN ON SPECTRUM 6640, FRONTIER
09:07:33 CHANNEL 15 AND LIVE ON THE INTERNET AT
09:07:37 TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:07:44 NOW THOSE WHO WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN WRITING HAD THE
09:07:46 OPPORTUNITY DO SO AND THAT WILL BE MADE PART OF THE
09:07:47 PROCEEDINGS.
09:07:50 AND THOSE INSTRUCTIONS WERE AVAILABLE IN THE NOTICE
09:07:53 THAT WAS POSTED ON THE WEB SITE AT
09:07:56 TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.
09:08:01 NOW FOR THOSE WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO REGISTER
09:08:03 TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SPECIAL CALLED PUBLIC HEARING,
09:08:07 THEY CAN ATTEND IN PERSON AND USE CMT THAT IS AVAILABLE
09:08:09 ON THE SECOND FLOOR, COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY
09:08:14 HERE AT 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
09:08:17 PLEASE NOTE THAT THOSE ATTENDING THE MEETING IN PERSON
09:08:23 SHOULD ATTEND WEARING FACE MASKS IN CITY COUNCIL BUILDING.
09:08:27 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES OF THE HYBRID AND LIVE
09:08:31 VIRTUAL MEETING, I ASK THAT YOU MAKE A MOTION --
09:08:34 COUNCIL MAKE A MOTION AND WAIVE THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE
09:08:36 MEETING SO FORTH.
09:08:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
09:08:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE THE RULES.
09:08:43 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
09:08:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED.
09:08:49 MOTION CARRIES.
09:08:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE HAVE MR. ROGERO AND MR. MASSEY
09:08:54 AVAILABLE FOR PRESENTATION IF IT IS NECESSARY.
09:08:57 I BELIEVE THEY WANT TO HAVE OPENING COMMENTS.
09:09:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU WANT TO GO TO THE ITEM FIRST WITH
09:09:04 MR. MASSEY AND REFERENCE THE SPECIAL HEARING, MR.
09:09:05 SHELBY.
09:09:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
09:09:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO OPEN.
09:09:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
09:09:11 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
09:09:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:09:13 ANY OPPOSED?
09:09:16 WE ARE OPEN FOR THE SPECIAL CALLED HEARING.
09:09:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE MR. MASSEY AND OTHER SPEAKERS
09:09:20 AVAILABLE.
09:09:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MASSEY, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR.
09:09:31 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:09:33 >>MORRIS MASSEY: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
09:09:34 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:09:37 THIS IS MORRIS MASSEY, DEPUTY --
09:09:45 [INAUDIBLE]
09:09:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN'T HEAR HIM.
09:09:53 TRY ONE MORE TIME, MR. MASSEY.
09:09:54 >>MORRIS MASSEY: GOOD MORNING.
09:09:57 CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
09:10:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE GOT YOU, SIR.
09:10:06 >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, CITY
09:10:07 ATTORNEY.
09:10:09 TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER A
09:10:12 RESOLUTION SETTING FORTH THE INTENT OF THE CITY OF
09:10:16 TAMPA TO PROCEED WITH THE ISSUANCE OF TAX EXEMPT BONDS
09:10:21 NOT TO EXCEED $350 MILLION TO BE USED IN THE ACCESSORY,
09:10:24 CONSTRUCTION AND EQUIPPING OF A PAPER FIBER
09:10:29 MANUFACTURING FACILITY BY CELADON TAMPA FIBER LCC AND
09:10:39 ITS SOLE MEMBER CELADON CORPORATION LCC AT 2781 BERGEN
09:10:43 BOULEVARD LEASED OF PROPERTY BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:10:46 I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THESE BONDS ARE NOT RECOURSE
09:10:49 AND APPROVED WITH THE CITY JUST LIKE THE UNIVERSITY OF
09:10:53 TAMPA AND MOFFITT, CONDUIT FINANCING THAT YOU ALL
09:10:55 APPROVED A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
09:10:58 THE CITY WILL HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO REPAY THE BONDS AND
09:11:03 CELADON HAS AGREED TO INDEMNIFY THE CITY.
09:11:07 A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, THE
09:11:18 BOND COUNSEL, STEVE MILLER, CELADON BOND COUNCIL.
09:11:23 I BELIEVE TIM AND MERIT, THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE
09:11:30 OFFICERS OF CELADON.
09:11:35 DENNIS ROGERO IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
09:11:39 147-F OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.
09:11:42 NOTICE OF A PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED ON THE
09:11:46 TAMPA BAY TIMES AND WEB SITE AS OPPOSED FROM
09:11:46 REGULATIONS.
09:11:50 I WOULD ASK BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THE RESOLUTION TO TAKE
09:11:53 PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE OBVIOUSLY ARE ALL HERE AVAILABLE
09:11:55 IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROPOSED
09:11:56 RESOLUTION.
09:11:57 THANK YOU.
09:12:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY.
09:12:07 DID THE APPLICANT WANT TO SPEAK FIRST BEFORE I OPEN FOR
09:12:12 QUESTIONS AND COMMENT.
09:12:24 >> GOOD MORNING, TIM ZOGEL AND I AM MERIT ZOGEL.
09:12:27 WE ARE MOVING TO THE FINAL STAGE BEFORE WE BREAK
09:12:31 GROUND COMPLETE THE FINANCING AND MUNICIPAL THAT YOU
09:12:35 ARE BEING A CONDUIT ISSUER FOR IS CRITICAL OF
09:12:38 COMPLETING THE FINANCING AND ALLOWING US TO CREATE
09:12:42 APPROXIMATELY 300 JOBS IN THE TAMPA AREA ON OUR FIRST
09:12:43 DAY OF THIS PROJECT.
09:12:46 WE HAVE BEEN VERY DELIGHTED FROM THE SUPPORT WE ARE
09:12:49 GETTING BACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AT VARIOUS LEVELS AND
09:12:56 LOOK FORWARD TO BEING A WONDERFUL LONG-TERM EMPLOYER IN
09:12:57 YOUR COMMUNITY.
09:12:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:13:01 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?
09:13:03 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:13:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING, FOLKS.
09:13:07 I LOOKED INTO THE COMPANY, AND I LOOKED INTO THE PROCESS
09:13:09 QUITE A BIT.
09:13:12 AND I AM VERY EXCITED NOT ONLY ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES THAT
09:13:16 YOU WILL BE HIRING BUT ALSO ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL
09:13:19 ATTRIBUTES OF YOUR SYSTEMS AND YOUR PROCESS.
09:13:24 OBVIOUSLY IN THIS TROUBLED -- TROUBLED PLANET OF OURS,
09:13:26 WE NEED TO CHIP IN ANY WAY WE CAN.
09:13:29 SO THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP, AND BEST OF LUCK TO YOU.
09:13:30 >> THANK YOU.
09:13:31 >> THANK YOU.
09:13:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS ITEM?
09:13:34 OKAY.
09:13:36 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC FROM THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK
09:13:44 ON THIS ITEM?
09:13:47 ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR FROM THE PUBLIC SPEAK ON
09:13:50 THIS ITEM?
09:13:53 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
09:13:55 NO ONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
09:13:57 NO ONE REGISTERED.
09:13:59 MOTION TO CLOSE.
09:14:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION.
09:14:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
09:14:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:14:06 OPPOSED.
09:14:09 MR. MIRANDA, DO YOU WANT TO READ --
09:14:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE THE RESOLUTION, MR.
09:14:12 CHAIRMAN.
09:14:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA HAS MOVED IT.
09:14:18 MR. CITRO HAS SECONDED IT.
09:14:19 ROLL CALL.
09:14:23 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:14:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:14:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:14:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:14:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:14:35 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:14:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN --
09:14:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN ADJOURN.
09:14:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO MOVED.
09:14:49 SECONDED.
09:14:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION.
09:14:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:14:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE ADJOURNED AND NOW GO RIGHT
09:14:56 INTO THE WORKSHOP.
09:14:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE.
09:15:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO OPEN THE WORKSHOP.
09:15:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN WE TAKE ROLL CALL AGAIN, PLEASE.
09:15:10 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:15:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:15:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:15:17 >>CLERK: CITRO.
09:15:20 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:15:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:15:25 JUST FOR THE RECORD -- MR. CITRO WENT DOWNSTAIRS TO
09:15:38 INTRODUCE THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
09:15:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:15:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MR. SHELBY.
09:15:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITHOUT HAVING TO REPEAT MYSELF, I
09:15:48 WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THE RULES CONSISTENT
09:15:51 WITH THE NOTICE AND THE STATEMENTS THAT ARE IN THE
09:15:54 AGENDA RELATIVE TO VIRTUAL AND REMOTE PARTICIPATION.
09:15:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
09:16:00 YOU WANT ME TO STATE THAT OR A MOTION.
09:16:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION FOR THE RECORD.
09:16:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:16:06 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
09:16:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:16:09 OPPOSED.
09:16:11 MOTION CARRIES.
09:16:12 THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
09:16:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:16:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR.
09:16:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:16:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I PROCEED.
09:16:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
09:16:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AS ALWAYS, WE ARE HERE TO HONOR THOSE
09:16:38 WHO SERVE US.
09:16:39 OUR FIRE.
09:16:40 OUR POLICE.
09:16:43 I ALWAYS START OUT THIS CONVERSATION AND THESE
09:16:47 COMMENDATIONS WITH IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT
09:16:51 THESE WOMEN AND MEN GO THROUGH ON THE TAMPA POLICE
09:16:57 DEPARTMENT AND WHAT THEY DO WHILE ON DUTY, GO TO THE
09:17:03 CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:17:07 YOU WILL FIND OUT FROM THE MOMENT THEY PUT ON THEIR
09:17:10 UNIFORM TO THE MOMENT THEY GET OFF DUTY WHAT THEY GO
09:17:12 THROUGH.
09:17:16 AND YOU WILL HAVE ALL NEW RESPECT FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN
09:17:18 OF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:17:23 BUT TODAY, WE ARE HERE TO GIVE A COMMENDATION TO THE
09:17:24 OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
09:17:28 IF I HAD IT MY WAY, EVERY OFFICER WOULD BE OFFICER OF
09:17:29 THE MONTH.
09:17:34 TODAY WE ARE HERE TO RECOGNIZE OFFICER AARON TYLER
09:17:37 MONTIF.
09:17:41 BUT I AM GOING TO HAVE THE CHIEF EXPLAIN WHY HE IS
09:17:43 GETTING THIS COMMENDATION TODAY.
09:17:44 CHIEF, IF YOU WOULD.
09:17:47 >> THANK YOU, JOE.
09:17:50 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:17:54 RUBEN DELGADO, ACTING CHIEF.
09:18:00 AS COUNCILMAN CITRO SAID, WE ONLY GET TO DO THIS ONE
09:18:01 TIME A MONTH.
09:18:04 12 OFFICERS ARE AWARD THIS AWARD AND SO MANY THAT ARE
09:18:06 DESERVING AS WELL.
09:18:09 THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT THAN THE NORMAL OFFICER MONTH
09:18:11 THAT YOU HAVE HEARD IN THE PAST.
09:18:14 THIS IS NOT ABOUT HOW MANY ARRESTS ON THE STREET OR HOW
09:18:16 MANY GUNS ARE TAKEN OFF THE STREET.
09:18:19 I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT WHAT OFFICER MONTIF DOES
09:18:23 FOR US AND WHY WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE HIM AS OFFICER OF
09:18:23 THE MONTH.
09:18:28 TYLER IS A -- TYLER IS A MEMBER OF OUR CRITICAL
09:18:32 INCIDENCE STRESS TEAM, CIS TEAM.
09:18:36 THAT WE EMPLOY TO HELP OFFICERS TO RESPOND IN INCIDENTS
09:18:41 OF CRITICAL INCIDENCES TO HELP GET THROUGH TRAGIC EVENT
09:18:44 AND COUNSELING SESSIONS, AND THEY STAY WITH OFFICERS AND
09:18:47 FAMILIES AND HE HAS DONE IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, AND I
09:18:50 WANT TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HE HAS DONE
09:18:53 AND WE THREW HIM INTO THE LEAD ROLE OF THIS TEAM BASED
09:18:57 ON SOME RETIREMENTS AND HE HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB
09:18:59 OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
09:19:02 THE FIRST INCIDENT THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHERE
09:19:08 OFFICER MONTIF SHOWED HIS LEADERSHIP AND SKILLS IN
09:19:11 LEADING THIS TYPE OF TEAM WAS THE LOSS OF JESSIE MADSEN
09:19:14 BACK IN MARCH.
09:19:19 OFFICER MONTIF AUTOMATICALLY JUMPED IN CALLED TO SEE
09:19:20 HOW HE COULD BE INVOLVED WITH THE FAMILY.
09:19:24 ASSISTED JESSIE'S WIDOW, DANIELLE, AND THE CHILDREN.
09:19:29 HE LITERALLY SPENDS DAY AND NIGHT THROUGH THE FAMILIES,
09:19:31 GETTING THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WHERE THEY HAVE TO
09:19:32 GO.
09:19:35 A TON OF PAPERWORK THEY HAVE TO GET THROUGH AND TYLER
09:19:38 MONITORS AND MAKES SURE EVERYTHING IS DONE RIGHT, BUT
09:19:42 MORE IMPORTANTLY, HE BECOMES A TRUE FRIEND OF THE
09:19:46 FAMILY AND SOMEONE TO LEAN ON DURING THIS TIME OF THEIR
09:19:46 GRIEF.
09:19:54 HE ASSISTS IN THE FUNERAL AND GOES TO THE FUNERAL HOME
09:19:58 WITH DANIELLE AND WALKS THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WAS
09:19:59 DIFFICULT FOR HER AT ITS TIME.
09:20:07 ANOTHER OFFICER AFTER JESSIE MADSEN OFF DUTY TRAVIS
09:20:14 CONRY PASSED AWAY AND MONTIF TOOK CARE OF THEM, SOME
09:20:17 OF WHICH WERE OUT OF STATE COORDINATED THEM AROUND THE
09:20:19 CITY AND DROPPED EVERYTHING HE WAS DOING.
09:20:22 THIS IS ABOVE AND BEYOND HIS REGULAR DUTIES AS AN
09:20:23 OFFICER.
09:20:29 AND TRULY HELPED TRAVIS CONRY'S FAMILY NAVIGATE AND GET
09:20:30 THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
09:20:33 AND I WILL JUST TOUCH ON IT -- IT IS NOT IN THE
09:20:37 WRITE-UP, BUT I WILL TOUCH ON IT BECAUSE I SPENT
09:20:41 SEVERAL DAYS WITH TYLER WITH THE DEATH OF MATTHEW
09:20:42 COLEMAN.
09:20:45 TYLER WAS THROWN INTO THE LEAD OF THIS AFTER OFFICER
09:20:49 MADSEN DUE TO THE RETIREMENT OF THE PERSON WHO LED THE
09:20:52 TEAM AND A PILLAR OF STRENGTH FOR THESE FAMILY
09:20:56 WEDNESDAY THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THESE TRAUMATIC TIMES.
09:20:59 HE RESPONDS TO TRAGIC SCENES AND HELPS OUT OFFICERS.
09:21:02 I SEE THIS FIRSTHAND WITH OFFICER COLEMAN AND THE HOURS
09:21:04 HE SPENT WITH HIS FAMILY AND GETTING HIM THROUGH AND
09:21:07 THE HOURS HE SPENT AT THE HOSPITAL.
09:21:09 NOT YOUR TYPICAL OFFICER OF THE MONTH AWARD AND
09:21:11 SOMETHING HE DOES AND A TOUGH JOB DO.
09:21:14 NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THE MAKE-UP TO HANDLE THAT
09:21:17 TYPE OF POSITION AND WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE HIM FOR
09:21:21 EVERYTHING HE HAS DONE FOR OUR OFFICERS WHO SEE TRAGIC
09:21:24 EVENTS BUT HELPING THE FAMILIES GET THROUGH THE TRAGIC
09:21:26 TIME.
09:21:33 AARON TYLER MONTIF AS OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR
09:21:34 SEPTEMBER 2021.
09:21:35 [APPLAUSE]
09:21:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OFFICER MONTIF, IT -- THE GOOD THINGS
09:21:44 YOU HAVE DONE REMINDS ME WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME YEARS AGO.
09:21:48 WHEN YOU HAVE PAIN AND SORROW, SHARE IT WITH OTHERS AND
09:21:49 IT IS CUT IN HALF.
09:21:53 WHEN YOU HAVE HAPPINESS AND JOY AND SHARE IT WITH
09:21:54 OTHERS AND IT IS DOUBLED.
09:22:00 THANK YOU FOR HELPING THESE FAMILIES OUT.
09:22:04 WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT IN COMMENDATION FOR
09:22:08 TYLER MONTIF, OFFICER OF THE MONTH, SEPTEMBER 2021.
09:22:10 BECAUSE OF DEDICATION OF SERVICE, COMMITMENT TO
09:22:13 EXCELLENCE AND GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY,
09:22:17 YOU HAVE BEEN CHOSEN FOR THIS MARK OF DISTINCTION AS
09:22:24 OFFICER OF THE MONTH TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, YOUR PEERS AND
09:22:28 SUPERIORS WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE YOU FOR YOUR HARD
09:22:30 WORK AND DEDICATION TO THE COMMUNITY OF WHICH YOU
09:22:30 SERVE.
09:22:33 WE COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO FELLOW OFFICERS,
09:22:37 THEIR FAMILIES, AND YOUR INITIATIVE AND SINCERITY TO
09:22:41 HELP OTHERS IN THEIR TIME OF NEED.
09:22:47 IT IS THE HONOR OF TAMPA CITY DOWN PRESENT AARON TYLER
09:22:53 MONTIF COMMENDATION ON SEPTEMBER 23, 2021.
09:22:59 I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
09:23:01 I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT YOU MAY WANT TO
09:23:08 INTRODUCE.
09:23:09 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:23:15 I HAVE MY MOTHER, KATHY, AND DEAR FRIENDS, MIKE AND
09:23:17 LEIGH, LIFELONG FRIENDS.
09:23:21 I THANK YOU TO THE CHIEF AND COUNCILMEMBER FOR YOUR
09:23:21 KIND WORDS.
09:23:24 I WANT TO ELABORATE SOME OF THE THINGS WE DO AND I FEEL
09:23:27 IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THIS DAY AND AGE.
09:23:33 OUR CIS TEAM, A LOT OF THE THINGS WE DO IS VERY VISUAL
09:23:36 WHEN IT COMES TO THE FUNERALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
09:23:39 BUT PROBABLY THE PILLAR OF WHAT WE DO IS JUST LOOKING
09:23:44 OUT FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH OF OUR PEERS.
09:23:46 NONE OF US ARE PSYCHOLOGISTS OR ANYTHING OF THAT
09:23:50 NATURE, BUT WE HAVE ADDITIONAL TRAINING.
09:23:53 WE BELONG TO THE TAMPA REGIONAL TEAM THAT WE ARE ABLE
09:23:56 TO TAP INTO THEIR RESOURCES WHICH DO INCLUDE MENTAL
09:24:01 HEALTH COUNSELORS, CHAPLAINS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
09:24:06 WE RESPOND OUT TO ALL THINGS DEEMED CRITICAL INCIDENT,
09:24:09 AND OUR ONLY JOB IS LOOK AT THE MENTAL HEALTH OF OUR
09:24:13 OFFICERS AND CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES LIKE OUR DISPATCHERS.
09:24:15 EXTREMELY IMPORTANT BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN ORDER FOR THE
09:24:19 OFFICER TO GIVE THEIR BEST TO OUR -- OUR MEMBERS OF THE
09:24:23 CITY, THEY HAVE TO SHOW UP OR ARRIVE AT THEIR BEST.
09:24:26 SO WE HAVE TO KEEP THEM AT THEIR -- AT THEIR BEST.
09:24:30 AND WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW -- HOW AWESOME OUR
09:24:34 RETIREMENT HERE IS AND EVERYTHING, BUT IT IS MY JOB --
09:24:37 I TAKE IT UPON MYSELF TO DO MY JOB AND THE JOB OF OUR
09:24:40 TEAM TO MAKE SURE THOSE OFFICERS SEE THAT RETIREMENT.
09:24:43 TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE HEALTHY AND THAT THEIR FAMILY
09:24:45 LIFE IS GOOD FOR THAT RETIREMENT.
09:24:49 SO I THINK IT IS EXTREMELY CRITICAL AND ONE LAST THING,
09:24:53 2015, THERE WAS A STUDY DONE THAT TOOK A NATIONAL
09:24:59 AVERAGE OF CRITICAL INCIDENTS THAT OFFICERS WILL
09:25:00 SEE.
09:25:03 AVERAGE WILL SEE ONE TO TWO CRITICAL INCIDENTS
09:25:04 THEIR LIFETIME.
09:25:09 OFFICERS WILL SEE ON AVERAGE 200 CRITICAL INCIDENTS IN
09:25:13 THEIR 21-YEAR CAREER.
09:25:15 THIS IS HEIGHTENED WITH A CITY THE SIZE OF TAMPA
09:25:19 BECAUSE WE DEAL WITH MORE PEOPLE AND INCIDENTS THAN IF
09:25:22 YOU WERE A RURAL DEPUTY OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
09:25:26 IT IS EXTREMELY CRUCIAL THAT WE TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE
09:25:28 SO OUR PEOPLE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
09:25:29 I APPRECIATE IT.
09:25:30 THANK YOU.
09:25:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, OFFICER.
09:25:33 MR. VIERA.
09:25:35 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN,
09:25:37 AND OFFICER, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
09:25:42 IT SEEMS THAT FROM CHIEF DELGADO SAID YOU ARE THE
09:25:48 COMFORTER-IN-CHIEF SO TO SPEAK AND A COMFORTABLE WORD.
09:25:52 SERMON OF THE MOUNT SAYS BLESSED ARE THE ONES WHO ARE
09:25:57 MOURNED FOR THEY SHALL BE COMFORTED.
09:26:01 I ALWAYS READ THAT TO SAY NOT NECESSARILY THAT PEOPLE
09:26:03 ARE BLESSED BECAUSE THEY ARE MOURNING.
09:26:06 MAYBE THERE IS A DUTY ON PEOPLE TO COMFORT THOSE WHO
09:26:08 MOURN AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
09:26:10 AND YOU DO IT FROM SOMEBODY WHO HAS WALKED DOWN THAT
09:26:12 ROAD.
09:26:23 IT IS SOMETHING THAT MOST AT CHAIRMAN GUDES EXCLUDED,
09:26:25 CAN KNOW OF BEING A FIRST RESPONDER AND KNOWING THE
09:26:28 RISKS EVERY DAY AND WHAT YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES GO
09:26:29 THROUGH.
09:26:35 STEPPING INTO THE WORLD AND THINGS AS SMALL AS PEPPER
09:26:38 WORK FOR LOSS OF A LOVED ONE FOR INSURANCE OF WHATEVER
09:26:42 IT MAY BE FOR FINANCIAL ISSUES CAN BE SO HEAVY.
09:26:44 TAKING A PIECE OF PAPER AND FILLING IT OUT.
09:26:48 COULD BE SO EMOTIONALLY HEAVY AND YOU ARE HERE TO HOLD
09:26:52 THEIR HAND FOR THESE OFFICER DEBTS WHILE THE CITY
09:26:55 MOURNS, YOU ARE ON THE FRONT LINE HELPING THEM OUT.
09:26:57 THANK YOU FOR ALL DO YOU AND YOUR MOM THERE SHOULD BE
09:26:59 VERY PROUD OF HER SON.
09:27:01 THANK YOU.
09:27:04 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:27:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.
09:27:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:27:10 SORRY MY VOICE IS -- ANYWAYS.
09:27:14 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICE AND SERVICE.
09:27:17 TAKES A LOT OF WHAT YOU DO NOT ONLY AS A POLICE OFFICER
09:27:20 BUT COMFORTING THESE FAMILIES AND BEING WITH THEM.
09:27:23 WE TRULY DON'T HAVE THE WORDS TO SHOW OUR APPRECIATION.
09:27:25 AND THANK YOU TO YOUR MOTHER WHO IS WITH YOU AND YOUR
09:27:29 FRIENDS BEHIND YOU FOR BEING WITH YOU TODAY FOR THIS
09:27:30 SPECIAL MOMENT.
09:27:31 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:27:33 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:27:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:27:39 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU HAVE ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT
09:27:40 JOBS AROUND IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU
09:27:41 DO.
09:27:45 WE AS CITY COUNCILMEMBERS ATTEND THESE SERVICES AND
09:27:48 EVERYBODY IS AT THE LOSS OF WORDS BECAUSE SUCH
09:27:50 DIFFICULT THINGS TO GO THROUGH.
09:27:53 SO THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE TO GUIDE THE FAMILIES AND
09:27:54 GUY ALL OF US.
09:27:59 THANK YOU FOR YOUR FAMILY FOR SUPPORTING US.
09:28:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:28:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:28:07 JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, CHIEF DELGADO WAS IN FRONT OF US
09:28:11 TALKING OF OFFICER MENTAL HEALTH IN A VERY BIG WAY AND
09:28:13 VERY IMPORTANT WAY.
09:28:17 THE THING THAT JUMPS OUT TO ME AND PROBABLY OBVIOUS TO
09:28:20 EVERYONE INVOLVED IS THE CONCEPT OF PTSD.
09:28:24 AND I DON'T THINK -- MOST OF US -- YOU KNOW WE THINK OF
09:28:25 YOU GUYS AS HEROES.
09:28:27 WE HEAR THAT TERM A LOT.
09:28:33 AND YOU ARE HEROES BUT YOU ARE NOT SUPERHEROES.
09:28:37 YOU DON'T HAVE SUPERMAN AND SUPER WOMAN'S IMPENETRABLE
09:28:39 SKIN.
09:28:40 YOU ARE HUMAN.
09:28:41 OFFICERS ARE ALL HUMAN.
09:28:44 THEREFORE WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND WE NEED TO
09:28:45 ADDRESS THAT.
09:28:47 ANY ISSUES THAT COME ALONG.
09:28:50 AND WE NEED TO FUND -- FUND THOSE NEEDS AS WELL.
09:28:55 SO CHIEF, MAKE SURE THAT NEXT YEAR IN BUDGET, WE STEP
09:28:57 UP AND ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
09:28:59 BUT OFFICER, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO AND YOUR TEAM.
09:29:03 I KNOW IT IS ALWAYS A TEAM EFFORT AND THANKS TO YOUR
09:29:04 MOM AND YOUR FAMILY.
09:29:06 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:29:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:29:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:29:12 AN HONOR TO KNOW YOU BY ZOOM.
09:29:15 WE HAD TO MEET A LOT OF PEOPLE BY ZOOM.
09:29:19 BUT YOU KNOW EVERY DAY IN LIFE IS A BEAUTIFUL DAY UNTIL
09:29:20 THAT DAY HAPPENS.
09:29:23 THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE THE ONE TO HAVE TO GO
09:29:26 KNOCK ON THE DOOR, SPEAK WITH THE PERSON AND STAY WITH
09:29:26 THEM.
09:29:29 IT TAKES A SPECIAL KIND OF INDIVIDUAL TO DO WHAT YOU DO
09:29:31 BECAUSE WE TAKE LIFE -- EVERYTHING IS BEAUTIFUL.
09:29:33 THE SUN WILL RISE.
09:29:34 THE MOON WILL COME UP AT NIGHT.
09:29:36 AND IT WILL RAIN WHEN IT HAS TO.
09:29:39 AND BEAUTIFUL AT THE BEACH AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
09:29:42 WITHIN THAT 24 HOURS ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN ANY AT ANY
09:29:45 TIME IN ANY POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY.
09:29:47 AND INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOURSELVES ARE THE ONES THAT HOLD
09:29:51 THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STATUS QUO OF
09:29:54 CONTINUING LIFE CONTINUES IN THE MANNERISM OF WHICH
09:29:57 THEY WERE ACCUSTOMED TOO AND VERY DIFFICULT WHEN
09:30:01 SOMEONE PASSES AWAY.
09:30:04 THE PERSON THAT -- THEY KNOW THAT YOU ARE PART OF THE
09:30:06 FAMILY WHEN YOU JOIN THEM.
09:30:08 AND THAT IS THE HARDEST THING TO DO TO BE ACCEPTED.
09:30:11 AND THE HARDEST THING TO DO IS TO APPEAR.
09:30:13 BOTH OF THEM HAPPENING BECAUSE OF INDIVIDUALS LIKE
09:30:17 YOURSELVES WHO MAKE SURE THAT THE FUTURE OF THAT FAMILY
09:30:18 STAYS TOGETHER.
09:30:21 AND I AM GLAD THAT YOU WERE HONORED BY THE TAMPA POLICE
09:30:24 DEPARTMENT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING JOB IN
09:30:26 YOUR SERVICES AND CONTINUE DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
09:30:27 GOD BLESS YOU.
09:30:29 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:30:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF, YOU KNOW, WE GET A LOT OF
09:30:35 OFFICER COMMENDATIONS BUT I THINK THIS ONE IS KIND OF
09:30:36 SPECIAL TODAY.
09:30:39 IT IS OUT OF THE BOX.
09:30:42 AND IT IS NEEDED TO RECOGNIZE ALL DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF
09:30:44 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:30:48 NOT JUST SOMEONE SAVING A LIFE, BUT OTHER AVENUES IN
09:30:51 THE IMPLEMENT THAT PEOPLE TRAVEL TO DO GOOD WORK FOR
09:30:52 THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
09:30:54 AND I CAN SAY, SIR, I HAVE BEEN IN YOUR SHOES TO
09:30:56 COMFORT FAMILIES.
09:31:01 I CAN REMEMBER MY FIRST DEATH WAS OFFICER BONITA WHITE.
09:31:06 MY SQUAD.
09:31:10 THEN WENT INTO THE OCEAN OF THE AIRPLANE CRASH.
09:31:12 AND I WAS WITH THE OFFICER'S FAMILY.
09:31:14 I UNDERSTAND THE JOB TO BE WITH FAMILIES.
09:31:15 BECAUSE TOUGH AT TIME.
09:31:18 ME BEING IN THE INDUSTRY, DEALING WITH ALL DIFFERENT
09:31:20 TYPES OF FAMILY MEMBERS WHO SHOW UP AND MAKING SURE
09:31:23 THEY ARE COMFORTED AND MAKE SURE OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T
09:31:24 INTERFERING.
09:31:26 A LOT OF ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON TO HELP A GRIEVING
09:31:30 FAMILY GET THROUGH THAT TROUBLED TIME.
09:31:31 I UNDERSTAND IT.
09:31:33 AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE FOR WHAT YOU ARE
09:31:36 DOING BECAUSE TAKES A LOT FOR A PERSON WHO HAVE THE
09:31:39 STRONG SKILL AND PERSONALITY SKILLS TO WORK WITH
09:31:40 FAMILIES.
09:31:42 THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THIS OFFICER.
09:31:43 MR. CITRO.
09:31:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, WE HAVE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS FROM
09:31:48 AROUND THE CITY THAT WANT TO SHOW THEIR GRATITUDE, MR.
09:31:55 CHAIR.
09:31:58 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN.
09:32:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD GOODE MORNING.
09:32:04 >> PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA PBA.
09:32:06 I WANT TO GIVE THIS AWARD TO TYLER.
09:32:09 TYLER IS ONE OF OUR ALTERNATES ON THE DIRECTORS OF THE
09:32:11 BOARD AND REPRESENT THE PBA.
09:32:14 I AM TOLD TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE HIM ONE OF THESE.
09:32:20 THIS IS A BOARD MADE BY A SERGEANT AT TPD.
09:32:22 EVERYTHING THAT WE GIVE IS MADE FROM AN OFFICER.
09:32:26 SERGEANT DANNY RHODES MADE THIS SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU.
09:32:31 TICKETS OF FOUR FROM RETIRED SERGEANT BREVY FROM BUSCH
09:32:33 GARDENS FOR YOUR FAMILY.
09:32:35 THANK YOU FOR ALL THE THINGS -- WE GET CALLS OUT ALL
09:32:37 THE TIME AND WE ARE OUT WITH YOU WHEN THE OFFICER HAS
09:32:39 THE WORST DAY OF THE LIVES.
09:32:42 YOU ARE THERE TO SUPPORT THEM AND HAVE THEIR CONFIDENCE
09:32:44 AND WE APPRECIATE YOU EVERY DAY.
09:32:47 THANK YOU, TYLER, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.
09:32:48 >> CONGRATULATIONS.
09:32:58 >> THANK YOU.
09:33:02 >> MICHAEL CARTER WITH STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
09:33:06 WE WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON A JOB WELL-DONE AND
09:33:09 GRATEFUL TO HAVE OFFICERS LIKE YOU IN OUR COMMUNITY AND
09:33:11 PROUD TO BE PART OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:33:15 WE WANT TO GIVE YOU A BASS PRO GIFT CARD AND A NIGHT
09:33:18 OUT IN THE COMPANY'S LIMOUSINE.
09:33:23 TAKE THE TIME YOU OFF, TAKE THE FAMILY OUT AND
09:33:28 CHALLENGING EVERYONE TO PULL UP TO THE BASS PRO SHOP IN
09:33:28 THE LIMO.
09:33:31 THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
09:33:34 >> THANK YOU.
09:33:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
09:33:37 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:33:43 BRIAN RAMIREZ, CHRISTINA STEFFAN WITH HILLSBOROUGH
09:33:45 COUNTY EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY.
09:33:49 WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HELP YOU GIVE TO OUR
09:33:50 FAMILIES.
09:33:54 GIFT CARD TO PUBLIX AND OTHER GOODIES THERE.
09:33:56 ENJOY IT AND APPRECIATE IT.
09:33:57 JOB WELL-DONE.
09:34:04 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:34:06 >> GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING.
09:34:08 OFFICER MONTIF.
09:34:10 APPRECIATE YOU.
09:34:13 I THINK -- YOU KNOW, NO ONE REALLY REALIZES THAT SORT
09:34:16 OF A JOB DUTY UNTIL IT IS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED.
09:34:20 DUSTIN PORTILLO FOR CASPER COMPANY MCDONALD'S AND
09:34:24 PRESENT TO YOU THIS BEAUTIFULLY ENGRAVED WATCH FOR
09:34:25 OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
09:34:28 AND A LITTLE CARD WITH YOUR NAME AND BADGE NUMBER ON
09:34:28 THERE.
09:34:31 AND JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
09:34:34 I DON'T THINK THERE IS A WATCH -- WELL, THERE WILL BE
09:34:35 ONE NOW.
09:34:36 BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:34:39 AND APPRECIATE IT.
09:34:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN I GOT A WATCH -- HIS IS ENGRAVED
09:34:43 NOW.
09:35:04 WOW, WOW.
09:35:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THUNDER BUG IT HERE!
09:35:19 [APPLAUSE]
09:35:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MICHAEL, WHERE IS YOUR COSTUME?
09:35:22 >> I KNOW.
09:35:23 I AM WEARING IT.
09:35:28 MICHAEL KILGORE, THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF THE
09:35:29 COLUMBIA RESTAURANT GROUP.
09:35:34 RICHARD GONZMART IS FOND OF US SAYING THAT NONE OF US
09:35:35 IS AS STRONG AS ALL OF US.
09:35:38 I APPRECIATE YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU TO DO HELP US.
09:35:39 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:35:43 AND $100 GIFT CARD TO OUR COLUMBIA RESTAURANT, ALL
09:35:44 SEVEN LOCATIONS IN THE STATE.
09:35:47 >> I WORK IN YBOR, SO --
09:35:52 >> WE WILL SEE YOU THERE.
09:35:54 >> THANK YOU.
09:35:57 >> GOOD MORNING, MARY LOU BAILEY AND HERE ON BEHALF OF
09:35:59 ZOO TAMPA AT LOWRY PARK.
09:36:01 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR SERVICE IN
09:36:05 SERVING OUR OTHER FINE OFFICERS AND THEIR FAMILY.
09:36:06 IT MEANS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT.
09:36:10 AND ON BEHALF OF THE VOLUNTEERS THAT SERVE ON THE BOARD
09:36:13 AT ZOO TAMPA, WE ARE PRESENTING YOU WITH A FAMILY
09:36:15 MEMBERSHIP, AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO TAKE YOUR WHOLE
09:36:15 FAMILY.
09:36:19 AND ALSO COMES WITH ACCESS TO OUR SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE
09:36:21 CREATURES OF THE NIGHT IS OPENING NEXT WEEKEND.
09:36:22 I WILL THEREBY WITH MY KIDS.
09:36:24 MAYBE WE WILL SEE YOU THERE.
09:36:27 BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR YOUR SERVICE AND
09:36:30 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:36:37 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:36:40 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS AND OFFICER.
09:36:45 I AM LYNN AIRHART HERE WITH THE TAMPA THEATRE AND I
09:36:47 WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EXCELLENCE AND
09:36:50 SUPPORT FOR YOUR FELLOW COLLEAGUES.
09:36:54 IT HAS GOT TO BE A VERY DIFFICULT JOB, AND I AM SURE
09:36:55 THEY ARE VERY GRATEFUL.
09:36:57 I KNOW THAT WE ARE.
09:37:01 AND WITH THAT SAID, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU TAKE A
09:37:03 LITTLE SELF-CARE AT THE TAMPA THEATRE.
09:37:05 WE HAVE AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FOR YOU AND SOME TREATS.
09:37:08 AND WE HOPE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE SOME TIME AND COME
09:37:10 AND VISITS US REAL SOON.
09:37:11 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:37:12 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:37:18 >> TAKE CARE.
09:37:20 >> ARE YOU TIRED YET?
09:37:21 >> NO, SIR.
09:37:23 >> WE HAVE A FEW THINGS HERE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO
09:37:32 PRESENT TO YOU ON BEHALF OF THE PRESTIGE PORTRAITS.
09:37:36 HAVE YOUR FAMILY PORTRAITS ON.
09:37:41 TAMPA METRO YMCA, A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO HAVE A
09:37:42 COMPLIMENTARY MEMBERSHIP.
09:37:46 CHICO RESTAURANT GROUP, YOUR CHOICE OF BREAKFAST, LUNCH
09:37:49 AND DINNER AT THEIR ESTABLISHMENTS.
09:37:55 ON BEHALF OF BELLA BRAVA, A NEW RESTAURANT, IN MIDTOWN, A
09:37:59 GIFT CERTIFICATE AND ENJOY YOURSELF A DINNER AND YUMMY
09:38:03 HOUSE CHINESE BISTRO AND PROVIDE YOU WITH A GIFT
09:38:04 CERTIFICATE.
09:38:07 MY NAME IS STEVE MICHELINI AND HERE AND PROUDLY
09:38:11 PRESENTING THESE ON BEHALF OF THESE INDIVIDUAL
09:38:13 COMPANIES AND RECOGNIZE YOU FOR YOUR EXCELLENCE IN YOUR
09:38:14 PERFORMANCE.
09:38:15 THANK YOU.
09:38:18 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:38:20 [APPLAUSE]
09:38:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN, OFFICER, WE THANK YOU VERY,
09:38:25 VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
09:38:28 WE THANK THE FAMILY FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO.
09:38:31 BECAUSE WHEN THEY WATCH YOU WALK OUT, THEY HOPE YOU
09:38:31 COME HOME.
09:38:33 THANK YOU, OFFICER.
09:39:05 >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
09:39:07 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
09:39:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, SIR.
09:39:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU LOOK FAMILIAR.
09:39:22 >> I'M HERE TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO LISA CHESSER.
09:39:25 AND I HAVE GOT SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS HERE TODAY
09:39:29 HOW ALSO KNOW AND ONE IS SHAWN BROWN, WHOSE BIRTHDAY IT
09:39:30 IS, BY THE WAY.
09:39:35 I WANT TO PRESENT THIS ON BEHALF OF CITY COUNCIL TO
09:39:37 LISA.
09:39:40 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO AWARD THIS COMMENDATION TO
09:39:43 LISA CHESSER FOR HER TIRELESS WORK FOR THE HOMELESS
09:39:46 POPULATION THROUGH HOPE ON THE HORIZON.
09:39:50 HOPE ON THE HORIZON WAS A MEAN TO FEED AND FURNISH
09:39:53 VETERANS IN THE SOUTH TAMPA AREA.
09:39:56 ONE OF THE ESTIMATES AS MANY AS 300 PEOPLE LIVING IN
09:39:59 SOUTH TAMPA WITHOUT HOMES, AND LISA AND SHAWN AND
09:40:03 OTHERS RUN FOOD BANKS AND ALL KINDS OF PROGRAMS TO
09:40:03 HELP.
09:40:05 PEOPLE THINK THAT ONLY RICH PEOPLE LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA.
09:40:07 THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.
09:40:11 LISA HAS HELPED COUNTLESS FAMILIES AND PEOPLE AS THEY
09:40:15 TRANSITION FROM HOMELESS TO HOME FOR FURNITURE, MONEY,
09:40:19 UTILITY HOOKUPS, FILLING REFRIGERATORS A AND WHAT OTHER
09:40:20 IS NEED.
09:40:24 AFTER EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS HERSELF SHE ACYSTS WITH
09:40:27 DIGNITY AND COMPASSION.
09:40:31 AS NEED INCREASED LISA INCREASED HER FINANCIAL SUPPORT
09:40:34 SO OUR COMMUNITIES WOULD NOT LOSE THEIR UTILITIES OR GO
09:40:36 HUNGRY.
09:40:40 CITY OF TAMPA IS BEST TO BE SERVED BY LISA IN
09:40:44 STEEL-TOED BOOTS AND BLUE JEANS.
09:40:45 >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMUNITY.
09:40:48 WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK US -- Y'ALL FOR THE RECOGNITION
09:40:51 OF HARD WORK IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:40:55 HOPE ON THE HORIZON IS A 100% VOLUNTEER BASE.
09:40:58 WE ARE COMMITTED TO HELPING THOSE IN NEED AND WE ARE
09:41:01 KIND OF LIKE THE FUNNEL OF THE COMMUNITY AND THOSE IN
09:41:01 NEED.
09:41:04 WE MET WITH JOHN BENNETT FOR A FEW MINUTES YESTERDAY
09:41:07 DURING HIS BUSY TIME, AND WE ARE GOING TO CREATE A
09:41:10 STRATEGY TO LINK ALL THE INCIDENT TEASE TOGETHER
09:41:13 SO WE HAVE NO MISSING LINKS AND STAND STRONG AS A CITY.
09:41:16 IF I CAN LEAVE WITH YOU ANYTHING IS IF WE WANT TO MAKE
09:41:19 THIS CITY AND THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE.
09:41:22 THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND MAKE
09:41:23 THAT CHANGE OURSELVES.
09:41:26 SO ONCE AGAIN, WE THANK YOU.
09:41:31 [APPLAUSE]
09:41:34 >>BILL CARLSON: ANYBODY WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
09:41:37 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THANK YOU FOR
09:41:39 BRINGING THIS FORWARD, SIR.
09:41:42 AND MA'AM, CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING YOUR COMMENDATION
09:41:42 TODAY.
09:41:46 BUT WE KNOW THAT FOLKS LIKE YOU DO THIS WORK NOT FOR A
09:41:48 MOMENT LIKE THIS, BUT FOR THE REWARD THAT YOU GET IN
09:41:50 DOING THE GOOD WORK.
09:41:53 AND GIVING BACK TO PEOPLE WHO OFTEN DON'T HAVE A VOICE.
09:41:57 SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK, MA'AM, AND GOD BLESS YOU.
09:41:59 >> THANK YOU.
09:42:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK
09:42:03 IN THE COMMUNITY AND HELPING THOSE WHO ARE LESS
09:42:06 FORTUNATE AND IMPROVING THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE AND
09:42:11 SHOWING THEM NOT JUST HELP BUT DIGNITY AND WE
09:42:12 APPRECIATE ALL THAT DO YOU.
09:42:13 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:42:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.
09:42:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE
09:42:18 WORK YOU DO.
09:42:22 MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ARE OVERLOOKED BY THE REST OF
09:42:23 SOCIETY.
09:42:26 YOU HAVE TAKEN A LONG, HARD LOOK AND HELPED THESE
09:42:26 PEOPLE.
09:42:27 AND FOR THAT, I THANK YOU.
09:42:30 I TRULY THANK YOU.
09:42:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:42:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LISA, WHEN WE MET BRIEFLY
09:42:38 DOWNSTAIRS AND YOU WERE HANGING OUT WITH STEPHANIE DOWN
09:42:39 THERE.
09:42:42 I THOUGHT YOU WERE JUST A RABBLE ROUSER JUST LIKE
09:42:42 STEPHANIE.
09:42:43 [LAUGHTER]
09:42:45 >> I AM.
09:42:46 [LAUGHTER]
09:42:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM JUST KIDDING.
09:42:53 RABBLE ROUSING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
09:42:56 HAVING LIVED MOST OF MY LIFE IN SOUTH TAMPA, I TOTALLY
09:43:00 AGREE WITH MR. CARLSON, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE FOLKS IN
09:43:02 NEED EVERYWHERE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
09:43:05 AND WE SO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS
09:43:09 AND YOUR DAUGHTER IN THE BACKGROUND -- I AM SURE YOU
09:43:11 HAVE HER HELPING AS WELL.
09:43:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:43:16 GUDES ANYTHING, MR. MIRANDA.
09:43:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:43:22 LISA, YOUR WORK IS ENDLESS.
09:43:24 WE HAVE FOUR SEASONS IN THE CALENDAR.
09:43:27 YOU LIVE IN TAMPA, ONLY TWO SEASONS.
09:43:29 SUMMER AND CHRISTMAS.
09:43:32 WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR SEASON -- RIGHT
09:43:35 NOW IT IS BECOMING YOUR BUSY SEASON WHEN FALL AND
09:43:38 WINTER COMES THIS WAY, WHAT HAPPENS FROM THE NORTHERN
09:43:40 AREA, THEY COME WHERE?
09:43:42 SOUTH.
09:43:45 SO YOUR EFFORTS ARE GOING TO INCREASE.
09:43:49 AND YOUR FRIENDS AND HELPERS THAT ARE HELPING YOU HAVE
09:43:54 TO BE COMMENDED AS MUCH AS YOU ARE.
09:43:57 THANK YOU FOR THE WORK AND FIND A SOLUTION TO THIS
09:44:07 REAL.
09:44:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU DO.
09:44:10 AS MR. MIRANDA SAID, IT IS ENDLESS.
09:44:14 WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING INTO TOWN TO COME HERE.
09:44:18 WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO HELP THOSE THAT ARE HERE
09:44:19 THOSE WHO ARE COMING.
09:44:21 THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND THE CREW WORKING WITH
09:44:22 YOU.
09:44:27 GOD BLESS YOU.
09:44:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 3 WAS A MEMO AND IT WAS
09:44:36 SCRATCHED.
09:44:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOWNSTAIRS WAITING.
09:44:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
09:44:41 YOU CAN GO DOWNSTAIRS.
09:44:45 JOSEPH -- NO, I DON'T THINK IT WAS -- SUPPOSED TO BE A
09:44:49 PRESENTATION TO MIRAY HOLMES, BUT WE GOT A MEMO ON
09:44:49 THAT.
09:44:53 THAT MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA AND MR. MANISCALCO.
09:44:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE UNDERSTAND.
09:44:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL MOVE ON AND GO TO ITEM NUMBER
09:44:59 4.
09:45:03 YES, MA'AM.
09:45:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 3.
09:45:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
09:45:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:45:10 OPPOSED?
09:45:11 MOTION CARRIES.
09:45:13 ITEM NUMBER 4, MR. VIERA IS GOING DOWN.
09:45:23 AND I WILL TALK ABOUT A FEW CHANGES ON THE AGENDA.
09:45:25 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU TALKED TO, MAYBE THEY CAN GET A
09:45:28 SPEAK OTHER IS COMING DOWN IN THE SECOND FLOOR ROOM TO
09:45:29 HEAR THE SPEAKERS.
09:45:32 BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE AWAY FROM THE ACTUAL
09:45:34 LECTERN.
09:45:37 SO TO GET A CLEAR SOUND FROM PEOPLE IN THE ROOM DOWN
09:45:37 THERE.
09:45:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ASKED ME TO DO WHAT?
09:45:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE NEED TO LOOK AT TECHNOLOGY
09:45:46 DOWNSTAIRS IN THE SECOND FLOOR SO WE CAN HEAR THE
09:45:46 FOLKS.
09:45:50 A LOT OF TIME PEOPLE ARE ON THE SIDE.
09:45:53 THE PERSON WHO IS SPEAK CAN'T HEAR THEMSELVES.
09:45:55 MAYBE AMPLIFY THE SOUND IN THE ROOM.
09:45:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'LL ASK ABOUT THAT BUT THE CONCERN NOT
09:46:02 TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP COMMENTS FROM THE OTHER PEOPLE.
09:46:06 BUT I WILL --
09:46:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA.
09:46:09 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
09:46:11 WE HAVE MR. JOE GRECO.
09:46:14 AND BEFORE WE HAVE A VIDEO THAT WE ARE GOING TO PLAY
09:46:15 FOR JOE.
09:46:23 IF WE CAN BEGIN WITH THAT, PLEASE.
09:48:30 Ø [MUSIC] Ø
09:48:32 [APPLAUSE]
09:48:35 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S GIVE JOE GRECO A HAND.
09:48:39 WE ARE HERE -- JOE -- TODAY IS HIS LAST DAY, SEPTEMBER
09:48:43 23, AS THE PRESIDENT OF TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS LOCAL 754.
09:48:46 AND JOE WANTED TO SAY SOME WORDS.
09:48:51 I SAID YOU ARE JUST NOT GOING TO GET AWAY FROM SAYING
09:48:54 WORDS, WE WILL GIVE THIS MAN, THIS EMOTIONAL MAN, GOD
09:48:59 BLESS HIM, A CITY OF TAMPA COMMENDATION.
09:49:03 I WANT TO VERY QUICKLY READ FROM IT.
09:49:06 THERE IS NO GREATER OR MORE VOCAL ADVOCATE FOR FIRST
09:49:09 RESPONDERS THAN JOE GRECO.
09:49:16 HIS ADVOCACY HAVE RESULTED IN HISTORIC THINGS FOR TAMPA
09:49:17 FIRE RESCUE.
09:49:21 TO IMPROVE THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF FIRE
09:49:23 FIGHTERS AND JOE IS THE PROUD SON OF A POLICE OFFICER
09:49:25 AND FATHER TO A FIRE FIGHTER.
09:49:29 HE FIGHTS FOR EVERY TAMPA FIRE FIGHTER AS IF THEY WERE
09:49:32 HIS OWN BLOOD.
09:49:35 JOE IS SINCERE AND ALWAYS COMES FROM THE HEART.
09:49:39 ALWAYS COMES FROM THE HEART AND A EVERYDAY LEVEL OF
09:49:41 COMMON SENSE FROM HIS POLICE OFFICER MOTHER AN
09:49:44 CONSTRUCTION WORKER FATHER THAT THEY PASS ON TO THEIR
09:49:45 SON.
09:49:50 THEY DON'T OFTEN MAKE JOE GRECO, PROUD FIRE FIGHTER,
09:49:52 SON OF TAMPA.
09:49:56 AND I WILL LET FOLKS SPEAK AND I WAS NOTHING ELSE TO
09:49:58 SAY THAN IS WRITTEN HERE.
09:50:01 IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THE FOLKS HERE.
09:50:04 MR. GRECO, COUNCILMEMBERS, GO FOR IT.
09:50:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHY DON'T WE HEAR FROM THE FOLKS
09:50:08 DOWN THERE FIRST, LUIS.
09:50:13 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
09:50:16 >> HOW ARE YOU DOING, INCOMING PRESIDENT FOR TAMPA FIRE
09:50:17 FIGHTERS 754.
09:50:22 JOE SENT ME THIS IF HE IS UNABLE.
09:50:25 HE IS AN EMOTIONAL AND PASSIONATE GUY.
09:50:30 HE WANT TO SAY HIS SINCERE PLEASURE TO SERVE AS
09:50:31 PRESIDENT.
09:50:34 HE ENJOYED MEETING WITH COUNCIL AND CONSTITUENTS AT
09:50:37 MANY EVENTS WE WERE AT OVER THE YEARS.
09:50:40 AS YOU SAW THE VIDEO, ALMOST EVERY CAMPAIGN.
09:50:42 THANK YOU FOR YOUR FRIENDSHIP AND HOPE.
09:50:44 LY WILL CONTINUE FOR YEARS TO COME.
09:50:47 JOE REMAINS ON JOB ONE MORE YEAR TO FINISH OUT HIS
09:50:49 TENURE PRIOR TO RETIREMENT.
09:50:50 THANK YOU.
09:50:51 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
09:50:54 CHIEF, IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING.
09:50:57 >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD MORNING, CHIEF TRIPP, TAMPA FIRE
09:50:58 RESCUE.
09:51:03 SO I HAVE KNOWN CAPTAIN GRECO FOR MANY, MANY YEARS BUT
09:51:05 NEVER ACTUALLY DEALT WITH HIM IN THE CAPACITY I HAVE
09:51:08 DEALT WITH HIM IN THE LAST NINE TO TEN MONTH.
09:51:13 I GREATLY THANK HIM FOR HIS SUPPORT AND THE RETIREMENT,
09:51:17 AND SOME OF THOSE FISH YOU NEED TO BRING OVER TO ME,
09:51:19 ALL RIGHT.
09:51:19 >> YES, MA'AM.
09:51:22 >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD LUCK.
09:51:23 WE WISH YOU WELL.
09:51:29 >> STEVE SIMON PRESIDENT OF A TU 1664.
09:51:31 I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
09:51:32 COME OVER, MAN.
09:51:34 WE GOT TO GET THIS PICTURE TAKEN.
09:51:37 A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU, YOU KNOW, AND THANK YOU
09:51:40 FOR SOME OF THE ADVICE YOU HAVE GIVEN ME WITH THE WORK
09:51:41 WE HAVE BEEN DOING TOGETHER.
09:51:43 A PLEASURE.
09:51:45 I AM HAPPY FOR YOU COMING UP ON YOUR RETIREMENT.
09:51:46 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:51:50 GOD BLESS.
09:51:52 >>LUIS VIERA: DARLA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
09:51:55 >> KARLA PORTMAN, PRESIDENT OF THE PBA.
09:51:58 I WANT TO TELL YOU, JOE, OUR FIGHTER.
09:52:00 ANYONE TO BRING TO A FIGHT OTHER THAN A POLICE OFFICER
09:52:02 IS JOE GRECO.
09:52:03 HE HAS PASSION.
09:52:06 HE GOT SPEED AND HE IS A FIGHTER.
09:52:09 ANY TIME WE HAVE NEEDED HIM HE HAS BEEN THERE WITH US.
09:52:13 FALLEN IN THE LINE OF DUTY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COMES TO
09:52:15 BACK UP THE POLICE OFFICERS LIKE THEY ALWAYS HAVE.
09:52:19 JOE, YOU WILL BE MISSED MORE THAN YOU EVER KNOW.
09:52:22 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:52:23 IF YOU WANT.
09:52:26 >> I AM GOING TO TRY COMPOSE MYSELF FOR JUST ONE
09:52:27 SECOND.
09:52:31 COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT THIS COUNCIL AND
09:52:37 THE LAST SINCE I HAVE BEEN ELECTED SIX YEARS.
09:52:42 Y'ALL HAVE NEVER NOT LISTENED, ALWAYS TOOK INTO
09:52:44 CONSIDERATION WHAT WE HAVE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE.
09:52:51 STAFF FOR THE CITY -- NOT THE PREVIOUS STAFF BUT THIS
09:53:00 STAFF HASN'T ALWAYS GIVEN US THE SEAT AT THE TABLE I
09:53:09 CAN'T -- MY PERSONAL FRIEND LUIS VIERA -- ANYWAYS.
09:53:11 I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR PUBLIC
09:53:16 SAFETY, CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
09:53:19 AND ALTHOUGH I WON'T BE IN THE OFFICIAL CAPACITY IN
09:53:25 FRONT OF COUNCIL ANYMORE, I GOT ALL YOUR PHONE NUMBERS.
09:53:25 [LAUGHTER]
09:53:27 LOVE Y'ALL.
09:53:32 [APPLAUSE]
09:53:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:53:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:53:39 YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH THE FIRE FIGHTERS UNION IS IN GOOD
09:53:43 HANDS WITH ANDREW CARTER BEHIND YOU, SOMEONE I HAVE
09:53:46 KNOWN FOR 25 YEARS WITH THE PERFECT FIRE FIGHTER
09:53:50 MOUSTACHE, I GOT TO THROW THAT IN THERE, HE HAS BIG,
09:53:52 BIG SHOES TO FILL.
09:53:53 CAPTAIN GRECO.
09:53:55 YOU CAN BE VERY INTIMIDATING.
09:53:56 YOU ARE VERY INTENSE.
09:53:59 YOU ARE VERY COME PASSIONATE.
09:54:00 YOU ARE VERY LOVING.
09:54:02 YOU ARE VERY CARING.
09:54:03 YOU CARE ABOUT THE FIRE FIGHTERS.
09:54:05 YOU CARE OF THEIR WELL BEING.
09:54:06 YOU CARE OF THE CITY.
09:54:08 YOU CARE ABOUT THEIR SAFETY.
09:54:11 YOU CALLED ME MANY TIMES AND WE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS
09:54:12 AND YOU ARE A FIGHTER.
09:54:15 NOT JUST A FIRE FIGHTER, BUT YOU FIGHT FOR YOUR PEOPLE.
09:54:17 YOU FIGHT FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
09:54:22 OUR GOOD FRIEND YOU ARE A VERY PASSIONATE INDIVIDUAL.
09:54:25 YOU PUT YOUR HEART IN SOMETHING YOU GO 100% AND I
09:54:28 RESPECT YOU TREMENDOUSLY AND YOU WILL BE VERY, VERY
09:54:30 MUCH MISSED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE.
09:54:33 SO THANK YOU, SIR.
09:54:34 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:54:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
09:54:38 >>BILL CARLSON: JOE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU
09:54:39 HAVE DONE.
09:54:42 AND WE ARE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL.
09:54:46 YOU FOUND YOU US WHEN WE FIRST RAN FOR OFFICE AND YOU
09:54:49 GRABBED US AND EDUCATED US ABOUT ALL THE THINGS WE
09:54:51 NEEDED TO KNOW JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE DID.
09:54:54 OUR GREAT AMBASSADOR FOR FIRE FIGHTERS AND FOR THE
09:54:55 SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:54:59 AND THROUGH YOU, WE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATE FOR
09:55:00 THE SAME.
09:55:04 I HOPE THAT WE MOST IMPORTANTLY GET TO ENJOY THE WELL
09:55:06 DESERVED RETIREMENT.
09:55:10 AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING MORE PICTURES OF
09:55:13 FISH AND ISLAND SCENES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
09:55:15 PLEASE POST THE PICTURES AND LET US SEE HOW MUCH YOU
09:55:18 ARE ENJOYING IT BECAUSE YOU DEFINITELY DESERVE IT.
09:55:20 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:55:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:55:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:55:28 LAST WEEK, WHEN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MADE THAT MOTION.
09:55:32 I JOKINGLY SAID, WHAT, FOR THAT TROUBLEMAKER?
09:55:35 YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE LOOK ON LUIS'S FACE.
09:55:37 I MEANT THAT SINCERELY.
09:55:40 JOE, YOU ARE A TROUBLEMAKER OPINION BUT YOU ARE THE
09:55:43 TYPE OF TROUBLEMAKER THAT I LIKE.
09:55:47 YOU HAVE VIABLE SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS AT HAND.
09:55:51 YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON -- YOU ARE THE FRONT LINE FOR
09:55:54 THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
09:55:57 WHENEVER THERE WAS A PROBLEM, YOU CAME TO US WITH
09:56:01 VIABLE SOLUTIONS TO THAT PROBLEM.
09:56:04 JOSEPH, I HAVE COME TO YOU MANY, MANY TIMES ASKING YOUR
09:56:07 OPINION ON HOW THIS COUNCIL CAN HELP THE MEN AND WOMEN
09:56:10 OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND YOU HAVE GIVEN ME STRAIGHT.
09:56:13 BLUNT ANSWERS WHETHER I WANTED TO HEAR THEM OR NOT.
09:56:15 JOSEPH, I RESPECT YOU.
09:56:18 BUT I KNOW THAT YOU DON'T HAVE AN OFF SWITCH.
09:56:20 YOU ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
09:56:25 SO I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PHONE CALLS, MY FRIEND.
09:56:27 AND YOU HAVE MY PERSONAL PHONE NUMBER.
09:56:28 CALL ME ANY TIME YOU NEED ME.
09:56:29 >> YES, SIR.
09:56:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:56:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JOE GRECO, YOU AND I SHARE A LOT OF
09:56:42 THINGS, INCLUDING BEING EMOTIONAL.
09:56:46 I THINK THIS IS EMOTIONAL FOR ALL OF US.
09:56:49 I HAVEN'T KNOWN THAT YOU LONG, PROBABLY TWO AND A HALF,
09:56:50 THREE YEARS.
09:56:55 WHEN WE MET AND THE FIRE UNION DECIDED YOU WOULD
09:56:59 ENDORSE ME A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, IT WAS A BIG HONOR.
09:57:00 STILL A BIG HONOR.
09:57:03 WHEN I SAW THOSE PICTURES UP THERE OF US CAMPAIGNING
09:57:07 TOGETHER, IT BROUGHT BACK GREAT MEMORIES.
09:57:12 BUT THE MOST -- THE MOST POIGNANT MEMORY THAT MY WIFE
09:57:17 AND I BOTH HAVE IS JOE SAID -- JOE SAID, OKAY, WE BUILT
09:57:19 A BUNCH OF SIGNS.
09:57:23 WE PUT OUT A BUNCH OF SIGNS AND DECIDED TO GO WALK SOME
09:57:25 OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
09:57:28 JOE SAID I WILL COME WALKING WITH YOU.
09:57:32 LITTLE I DID KNOW WHAT HE MEANT BY THAT WHEN LYNN AND I
09:57:35 GOT OUT OF THE CAR AND NEXT THING I KNOW, WHERE DID JOE
09:57:35 GO?
09:57:39 HE TOOK OFF RUNNING TO -- TO -- LITERALLY RUNNING.
09:57:40 HE DOESN'T WALK NEIGHBORHOODS.
09:57:43 HE WAS RUNNING THE NEIGHBORHOODS, DOOR TO DOOR, YOU
09:57:46 KNOW, KNOCKING ON DOORS AND RUNNING TO THE NEXT ONE.
09:57:50 AND THAT IS THE WAY YOU LEAD YOUR LIFE.
09:57:54 I CAN HONESTLY SAY I HAVE RARELY MET A MAN WHOSE
09:58:00 PASSION FOR HELPING PEOPLE -- FOR HELPING PEOPLE IS AS
09:58:02 LARGE AS YOURS, JOE.
09:58:07 AND I KNOW YOU ARE NOT GOING FAR AND ANDREW WILL DO A
09:58:08 GREAT JOB AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
09:58:11 BUT WE WILL MISS YOU ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
09:58:12 DON'T BE A STRANGER.
09:58:14 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:58:16 AND YOUR WIFE IS AMAZING.
09:58:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SHE IS.
09:58:18 THANK YOU.
09:58:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
09:58:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JOE, IT IS A PLEASURE TO HAVE KNOWN
09:58:23 YOU FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
09:58:24 YOU HAVEN'T CHANGED.
09:58:26 YOU ARE STILL THE IN-FIGHTER.
09:58:28 WHEN YOU FIGHT, YOU ARE NOT ONLY FIGHTING FOR THE MEN
09:58:30 AND WOMEN OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
09:58:34 YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND
09:58:36 FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE WHOLE CITY BECAUSE YOU WANT TO
09:58:37 HAVE A SAFE CITY.
09:58:41 AND YOU ARE REPRESENTING THE INDIVIDUALS TO CAN DO
09:58:41 THAT.
09:58:43 WE APPRECIATE THAT.
09:58:44 WHY IS HE LEAVING NOW?
09:58:47 I HAD A FEW CONVERSATION WITH JOSEPH EARLIER THIS
09:58:49 MORNING.
09:58:53 AND WHAT HE TOLD ME IS WHAT HE IS.
09:58:54 AND HE SAID THIS.
09:58:58 AND IT WASN'T SAID FOR ME TO SAY THIS PUBLICLY, BUT HE
09:59:02 TOLD ME HE IS LEAVING NOW BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO
09:59:04 LEAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE MIDDLE OF A
09:59:06 NEGOTIATING PERIOD WITH THE CITY.
09:59:10 AND THAT HE WOULD NEVER DO SOMETHING HALFWAY AND WALK
09:59:16 AWAY AND LET -- LED CARTER FINISH IT.
09:59:19 HE WAS INVOLVED IN IT BUT HE WASN'T THE FACE OF THE
09:59:20 FIRE DEPARTMENT AT THAT TIME.
09:59:22 THAT TELLS WHAT YOU KIND OF AN HONORABLE INDIVIDUAL
09:59:26 THAT HE WASN'T WILLING TO PUT SOMETHING HALFWAY THAT HE
09:59:28 COULDN'T FINISH.
09:59:32 SO HE WOULD SPEND THE LAST 11 MONTHS AS A FIRE FIGHTERS
09:59:36 AT THE CAPABLE HANDS OF ANDREW CARTER FINISHING IT FROM
09:59:37 START TO FINISH.
09:59:39 THAT TELLS YOU THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HE IS.
09:59:41 AND HE IS NOT DOING IT FOR GLORY OR HONOR.
09:59:45 HE IS DOING IT BECAUSE THAT WAS HIS DUTY THAT HE GOT
09:59:47 SWORN INTO DOING WHAT HE TOOK NOT ONLY A FIRE FIGHTER
09:59:50 BUT THE HEAD OF THE UNION 754.
09:59:55 AND I PREDICT IN THE YEARS TO COME SOMEWHERE ALONG THE
10:00:01 LINE ANOTHER GRECO SEEKING OFFICE AND I PREDICT IT IS
10:00:03 JOE GRECO.
10:00:05 >> CHARLIE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR FRIENDSHIP OVER THE
10:00:05 YEAR.
10:00:07 IS COUNCIL DONE?
10:00:08 SORRY.
10:00:09 SORRY, CHAIRMAN.
10:00:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, YOU KNOW SOMETIMES PEOPLE
10:00:19 PASSION FOR BEING ANGRY AND UPSET.
10:00:21 BUT YOU ARE LIKE ME, JOE.
10:00:31 YOU ARE PASSIONATE WHAT YOU DO AND CAUSES NOT FOR ANGER
10:00:35 BUT FIGHTING FOR PEOPLE WITH A PURPOSE.
10:00:38 IT TOOK MR. VIERA AND MR. CITRO ON THAT JOURNEY.
10:00:41 AND WE FOUND OUT ABOUT OURSELVES.
10:00:46 WHAT OUR CAPABILITIES ARE.
10:00:49 I THINK MR. CITRO FOUND SOME THINGS OUT TOO.
10:00:51 WE ALL DID.
10:00:53 BECAUSE OF YOU.
10:00:57 I EXPERIENCED IT BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN IN A FIRE BEFORE.
10:01:01 IT WAS AN EXTRA EXPERIENCE TO KNOW OTHER ASPECTS OF THE
10:01:02 FIRE DEPARTMENT THINK THAT DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT.
10:01:03 ABOUT EQUIPMENT.
10:01:04 I UNDERSTAND.
10:01:05 I ALWAYS TALK OF EXPERIENCE.
10:01:07 WHEN YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE, YOU ARE ABLE TO TELL
10:01:11 OTHERS ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE SO YOU CAN UNDER UNDERSTAND
10:01:11 IT.
10:01:19 THAT'S HOW THINGS GET MOVING AND PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE
10:01:22 EXPERIENCE I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE FRIENDSHIP
10:01:24 AND THE FOLKS OF EAST TAMPA THANK YOU.
10:01:27 THE FOLKS OF EAST TAMPA THANK YOU BECAUSE THEY HAVE
10:01:28 EXTRA MEDICAL SERVICE.
10:01:32 WE NEED MORE, BUT YOU TELL ME HOW TO APPROACH TO GET
10:01:35 THE NEEDS FOR MY COMMUNITY, FOR MY DISTRICT.
10:01:38 ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF EAST TAMPA AND MY
10:01:41 DISTRICT, DISTRICT 5, WE SAY THANK YOU AND CONTINUE TO
10:01:42 SERVE WHICH I KNOW YOU WILL.
10:01:43 GOD BLESS YOU.
10:01:45 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
10:01:47 ANYBODY LEFT?
10:01:48 THANK YOU.
10:01:54 I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TELL -- IF THE 754 MEMBERS ARE
10:01:57 LISTENING NOW THAT I HAVE COMPOSED MYSELF, IT HAS BEEN
10:02:00 AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVE YOU.
10:02:03 ALWAYS SUPPORTED -- I AM SORRY FOR STANDING TOO CLOSE
10:02:07 FOR THE MIC.
10:02:10 IT IS AN HONOR I MET SO MANY GREAT PEOPLE AND
10:02:11 FRIENDSHIPS.
10:02:14 IT HAS BEEN VERY TIME CON SUMEING AND I LOVED EVERY
10:02:15 MINUTE OF IT.
10:02:18 BUT IT IS TIME.
10:02:22 AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE GUY BEHIND ME, ANDREW, OF
10:02:25 SUPPORTING THE EFFORTS I HAVE THAT ENDEAVORED UPON IN
10:02:27 THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN
10:02:32 MONSTROUS AND VERY TIME CONSUMING.
10:02:35 AND ANDREW HAS BEEN AMAZING.
10:02:39 THIS SOON IN GREAT HANDS WITH ANDREW.
10:02:41 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:02:43 EVERYBODY WHO SAID SOMETHING.
10:02:47 LUI PUTTING TOGETHER THAT COLLAGE.
10:02:49 CHIEF AND ALL THE UNION PRESIDENTS.
10:02:50 I SEE STEVE BACK THERE.
10:02:54 THANK YOU, ALL.
10:02:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:03:04 THANK YOU, MR. VIERA.
10:03:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN.
10:03:09 WE HAVE EXTRA ITEMS APPROACHED TO ME BY STAFF.
10:03:13 THEY HAVE TWO WALK-ON ITEMS THAT WE WILL TAKE BEFORE WE
10:03:16 GET INTO OTHER STAFF REPORT BEFORE THE WORK SHOP OF
10:03:16 TODAY.
10:03:18 MR. JOHNSON.
10:03:21 HE HAD A FIVE OR SEVEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION THAT THEY
10:03:23 HAD ASKED FOR AT THE LAST MEETING TO COME BACK.
10:03:24 I WILL HAVE HIM COME FIRST.
10:03:31 AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATION WILL TALK ABOUT THE WALK-ON
10:03:32 ITEM.
10:03:35 THE CRIME-FREE.
10:03:38 I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF SPEAKERS THAT ARE WAITING AND
10:03:43 SPEAKERS WHO MAY BE DOWNSTAIRS.
10:03:46 NOT PUT A TIME LIMIT, BUT TIME FOR COMMENTS OF
10:03:49 COUNCILMEMBERS I WILL PUT US ON A TIMER AND GO TWO
10:03:52 ROUNDS AND BRING THINGS FOR A LANDING AND I KNOW THIS
10:03:53 WILL BE A HOT ITEM.
10:03:56 I KNOW WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM REFERENCE TO FIRE
10:03:59 DEPARTMENT THAT CHIEF TRIPP WILL BE TALKING ABOUT
10:04:01 REFERENCE TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
10:04:02 I HAD CALLS ON THAT TOO.
10:04:07 AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO MOVE THE AGENDA AS FAST AS
10:04:09 WE CAN TO GET TO THE POINTS AND MAKE THE DECISIONS FOR
10:04:11 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:04:42 WITH NO FURTHER ADO, MR. JOHNSON.
10:05:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MA'AM, WE WILL WAIT.
10:05:06 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL GUDES GOOD MORNING.
10:05:20 >> I APOLOGIZE FOR MY SLIGHT TARDINESS.
10:05:21 >> ARE WE READY?
10:05:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE READY, SIR.
10:05:27 >> AFTER OUR LAST PRESENTATION, CHAIRMAN GUDES, YOU
10:05:33 RECOMMENDED THAT THE CDFC MEET WITH THE CFO AS IT
10:05:35 PERTAINS TO THE BREAKDOWN OF OTHER SERVICES AND
10:05:36 CHARGES.
10:05:43 WE MET WITH THE BUDGET OFFICER MIKE PERRO ON SEPTEMBER
10:05:45 13 AROUND 10 A.M.
10:05:50 IN MEETING WITH MR. PERRY DURING THIS MEETING, WE
10:05:53 DIDN'T I REALLY RECEIVE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE AREAS;
10:05:58 HOWEVER, THE BUDGET OFFICER DID ENLIGHTEN US ON HOW THE
10:06:00 BUDGET IS CONSTRUCTED.
10:06:06 SO IT IS GUIDED BY THE STATE'S UNIFORM ACCOUNTING
10:06:08 SYSTEM MANUAL GUIDELINES.
10:06:14 SO HE GAVE US A LITTLE INSIGHT AS TO HOW THE BUDGET IS
10:06:17 CONSTRUCTED AND WHY THAT CATEGORY OF "OTHER SERVICES
10:06:18 AND CHARGES"IS THERE.
10:06:24 BUT WE DID DISCUSS WITH THE BUDGET OFFICER THAT WE NEED
10:06:31 TO BE A LITTLE MORE TRANSPARENT WITH OTHER SERVICES AND
10:06:31 CHARGES.
10:06:35 SO THE COMMITTEE AND THE BUDGET OFFICE WILL WORK
10:06:40 TOGETHER OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR SO OR QUARTERS -- THE
10:06:43 NEXT QUARTERS AS WE MEET WITH THEM TO BASICALLY
10:06:49 IDENTIFY AREAS OF HOW TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT WITH OTHER
10:06:50 SERVICES AND CHARGES.
10:06:55 WE THANK MR. PERRY FOR TAKING TIME AND EXPLAINING HOW
10:07:00 THE BUDGET IS CONSTRUCTED UNDERNEATH BEING GUIDED BY
10:07:03 THE UNIFORM ACCOUNTING MANUAL.
10:07:04 THE STATE'S MANUAL.
10:07:11 SO WITH THAT, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS GO AND REVISE
10:07:15 RECOMMENDATIONS AFTER MEETING WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE.
10:07:20 SO, AGAIN, I WILL GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE MYSELF.
10:07:23 I AM JOE JOHNSON, CHAIRMAN OF THE BUDGET AND FINANCE
10:07:25 COMMITTEE, APPOINTED BY YOURSELF, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:07:29 THIS IS MY THIRD YEAR ON THE COMMITTEE, AND I REPRESENT
10:07:30 DISTRICT 5.
10:07:34 I AM GOING TO RECOGNIZE THE VICE-CHAIR, CRAIG NEWMAN.
10:07:37 THIS IS ALSO HIS THIRD YEAR AND HIS SECOND AS
10:07:38 VICE-CHAIR.
10:07:42 HE WAS APPOINTED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:07:43 HE REPRESENTS DISTRICTS FOUR.
10:07:47 WE WILL GO AHEAD AND RECOGNIZE NICHOLAS GLOVER,
10:07:51 APPOINTED BY JOE CITRO, REPRESENTING DISTRICTS 1.
10:07:57 RECOGNIZE ANDY SCAGLIONE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
10:07:59 REPRESENTING DISTRICT 2.
10:08:01 RECOGNIZE STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:08:04 APPOINTED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, REPRESENTING
10:08:05 DISTRICT 3.
10:08:11 MICHAEL FLUNO, APPOINTED WHICH COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO
10:08:13 REPRESENTING DISTRICT 6.
10:08:18 AND JOE FARO, BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, REPRESENTING
10:08:20 DISTRICT 7.
10:08:23 IF WE GO OVER TO PAGE 4, THESE ARE OUR PREVIOUS
10:08:24 RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:08:30 AGAIN, AFTER MEETING WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE AND IT
10:08:35 HELPED US UNDERSTAND AND GO BACK AND REVISE OUR
10:08:36 NUMBERS.
10:08:43 AND REALLY KEEN IN -- OR HONE IN ON AREAS THAT ARE
10:08:48 SPECIFIC OF GOING ALL BROAD.
10:08:54 LET'S GO AHEAD AND JUMP DOWN TO PAGE NUMBER 5.
10:09:06 ALL RIGHT, SO ON PAGE NUMBER 5, YOU SEE AFFORD ABLE
10:09:07 HOUSING INITIATIVE.
10:09:10 AFTER HEARING THE CFO'S PRESENTATION ON THE 13TH AND
10:09:14 SPEAKING WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE, OF THE $16 MILLION
10:09:16 THAT WE DISCUSSED THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT A CERTAIN
10:09:18 NUMBER HAD TO GO BACK.
10:09:22 BUT WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME AREAS AND THE BUDGET
10:09:25 OFFICER ACTUALLY CAME BACK WITH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING
10:09:31 THAT IS SATISFACTORY, I THINK, FOR COUNCIL FOR
10:09:34 YOURSELF, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AS IT
10:09:37 PERTAINS TO ACCORDABLE HOUSING AND PERTAINS TO
10:09:39 STAFFING.
10:09:44 AS A COMMITTEE WE LOOKED AT LAND ACT QUESTION
10:09:44 SIGNIFICANCES.
10:09:52 THERE IS GOING TO BE -- $17 MILLION OF ARPA MONEY.
10:09:55 2022 ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT ARE COMING AND I DON'T WANT
10:09:59 TO GO AHEAD OF MYSELF AND SPEAK OF TURN, BUT ADDITIONAL
10:10:01 FUNDS AND WILL BE COMING ON AND THAT WILL MAKE IT A
10:10:07 REAL -- A DECENT AMOUNT OF FUNDS GOING TO THEREBY FOR
10:10:08 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:10:14 WITH THAT MONEY, THE QUESTION IS THAT CAME OVER WAS
10:10:16 WHAT DO WE DO WITH IT?
10:10:18 WE HAVE NO LAND.
10:10:22 WE HAVE NO DIRT, THE CITY DOESN'T OWN A LOT OF DIRT.
10:10:30 SO WITH THAT, WE SAID, LET'S PUT ASIDE SOME FUNDS TO
10:10:31 ACQUIRE LAND.
10:10:36 IN ACQUIRING LAND, WE WANT TO PROVIDE THE CITY WITH
10:10:39 DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:10:45 SO THERE ARE FUNDS, BUT NO PLACE TO WHERE RIGHT NOW
10:10:46 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:10:50 SO THE CITY, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT COUNCIL AND THE
10:10:55 ADMINISTRATION WORK TOGETHER TO IDENTIFY AREAS WHERE WE
10:10:59 CAN PURCHASE LAND -- WHERE THE CITY CAN PURCHASE LAND.
10:11:04 WE ALSO WANT TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY OF PLANNING
10:11:09 DEVELOPMENT LOOKED TO EXPAND ON WORK WITH HILLSBOROUGH
10:11:11 COUNTY TO LOOK FOR AFFORDABLE LAND OPTIONS.
10:11:14 GOES BACK TO LAND ACCESSORY.
10:11:18 DOCTOR LAND ACQUISITION.
10:11:23 AND WE FEEL MAKE THERE IS SOME AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY TO
10:11:29 EXPAND THAT AND THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THAT
10:11:30 COMMITTEE.
10:11:42 ALL ACCORD BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND AND ANY DOLLAR
10:11:45 AMOUNT ALLOCATED TO A DEVELOPER OR WHOEVER, THE CITY
10:11:49 COUNCIL HAS A FINAL SAY OR FINAL APPROVAL AS IT
10:11:52 PERTAINS TO THOSE FUNDS BEING DISPERSED.
10:11:59 LET'S GO AHEAD TO GO TO PAGE NUMBER 6.
10:12:00 HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
10:12:07 I MED WITH THE CEO AND HE BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION.
10:12:10 LOOK, THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT IT IS -- IT IS WHERE IT
10:12:10 IS.
10:12:17 AND WITH IT BEING UNDER CAROLE POST, THEIR -- THEIR
10:12:19 STAFFING LEVELS WILL INCREASE.
10:12:23 AND WITH THOSE STAFFING LEVELS, WE LOOKED AT HOUSING --
10:12:27 HOUSING COMMUNITY RELATIONS MANAGER.
10:12:30 NOW THIS POSITION -- THE WAY WE SEE THIS POSITION, IT
10:12:32 WILL LIAISON BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS
10:12:35 AND HOUSING DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS
10:12:39 ARE AWARE OF VARIOUS COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS SUCH
10:12:44 AS THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, SHIP, HOME,
10:12:50 USDA HOME RENTAL, HOME OWNERSHIP AND PROGRAMS.
10:12:57 YOU ARE PROBABLY ASKING SHIP, WHAT IS THAT, THE STATE
10:13:00 HOUSING INITIATIVE PARTNERSHIP.
10:13:03 THERE ARE VARIOUS PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT INDIVIDUALS
10:13:04 DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
10:13:08 AND, AGAIN, BACK ON THE SECOND, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,
10:13:11 HE DID THE MATH, $5.5 MILLION.
10:13:14 THAT IS 183 FAMILIES.
10:13:18 WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY COMING IN THROUGH ARPA, AND
10:13:20 THE STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE, WELL,
10:13:23 THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FAMILIES TO GET OUT OF THE
10:13:27 RENTAL CYCLES AND GET INTO HOME OWNERSHIP.
10:13:30 SO THERE ARE A BUNCH OF PROGRAM OUT HERE THAT ARE
10:13:33 GUIDED BY THE STATE AND PROVIDED BY THE STATE.
10:13:37 AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
10:13:40 AND WITH THE IMPACT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS GOING
10:13:43 ON NOT JUST IN TAMPA BUT NATIONWIDE, WE HAVE AN
10:13:47 OPPORTUNITY AS A CITY TO INFORM, EDUCATE THESE
10:13:51 INDIVIDUALS ON HOW TO BECOME HOMEOWNERSHIP AND GUIDE
10:13:53 THROUGH THE PROGRAM ESPECIALLY WITH THE FUNDS AND WILL
10:13:54 BE AVAILABLE.
10:14:00 LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO TO PAGE NUMBER 7.
10:14:02 YOU HEARD IT LAST YEAR.
10:14:03 YOU HEARD IT THIS YEAR.
10:14:04 YOU HEAR IT AGAIN.
10:14:07 DARE TO DREAM COMMUNITY INITIATIVE.
10:14:10 WE LOOK TO ALLOCATE A PERCENTAGE OF THE ARPA FUNDS TO
10:14:14 INCREASE FUNDING FOR FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYERS.
10:14:19 THE FIRST-TIME HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO ASSIST
10:14:22 MORE FAMILIES WITH DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
10:14:24 GOES BACK TO THE STATEMENT OF COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:14:28 NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS LOOK TO PARTNER WITH
10:14:31 HOUSING DEPARTMENT TO CREATE PROGRAMS TO INFORM
10:14:34 RESIDENTS ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND FIRST-TIME
10:14:36 HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
10:14:39 AND WE ALSO LOOKED TO -- WITH THE HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE
10:14:40 PROGRAM.
10:14:43 RIGHT NOW A $250,000 CAP.
10:14:48 WE LOOK TO SEE HOW -- IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO MOVE IT FROM
10:14:49 250 TO 350.
10:14:51 WHY?
10:14:55 BECAUSE GIVEN THE CURRENT HOUSING SITUATION, 250, YOU
10:14:58 WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FIND A HOUSE FOR 250 IN THE CITY.
10:15:03 YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FIND A HOUSE FOR 250 IN THE
10:15:03 COUNTY.
10:15:07 WE NEED TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS TO, AGAIN, MOVE
10:15:10 THIS MONEY THE RIGHT WAY.
10:15:14 PAGE NUMBER 8.
10:15:18 AGAIN, AS YOU CAN SEE, DARE TO DREAM, INFORM AND
10:15:19 EDUCATE.
10:15:26 I WILL GO AHEAD TO PAGE NUMBER 9.
10:15:28 SO A FINAL INITIATIVE MOVING FORWARD.
10:15:31 AS A COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK TO MEET -- WE WILL
10:15:35 CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THE GENERAL FUND AND ENTERPRISE
10:15:37 DEPARTMENTS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
10:15:42 AS WE MEET WITH DEPARTMENTS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, WE
10:15:45 WILL KEEP COUNCIL INFORMED OF THE HEALTHINESS OF
10:15:46 DEPARTMENTAL BUDGETS.
10:15:48 WE HAVE A MEETING.
10:15:51 WE ARE WORKING ON A MEETING DATE WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE
10:15:55 TO SIT DOWN AND COME UP WITH THE PARAMETERS AND
10:15:59 EXPECTATION OF WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS WILL NEED TO BRING
10:16:04 TO THESE -- THESE QUARTERLY MEETINGS.
10:16:11 AGAIN, I WANT TO KIND OF -- JUST WANT -- JUST WANT TO
10:16:14 SAY, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO THANK MIKE PERRY.
10:16:19 I KNOW MIKE PERRY -- OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS HAVE BEEN
10:16:21 PRETTY ROUGH MEETING WITH THE BUDGET AND FINANCE
10:16:22 COMMITTEE.
10:16:26 WE HAVE BEEN PRETTY STRONG AND HE IS PROBABLY TAKEN A
10:16:30 BIT OF A BEATING BUT I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT MR.
10:16:33 PERRY HAS A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AS IT PERTAINS TO THE
10:16:37 BUDGET, AND HIS DEPARTMENT, THE CFO AND THE CITY
10:16:41 DEFINITELY IS -- SHOULD BE THANKFUL TO HAVE HIM.
10:16:43 HE IS LEADS THAT DEPARTMENT VERY WELL.
10:16:45 AND WE ENJOY WORKING WITH HIM.
10:16:49 AND I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE HIM BECAUSE I KNOW HE
10:16:52 TAKES A BEATING FROM THE COMMITTEE FROM MYSELF.
10:16:55 AND I THINK -- I WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO SAY THANK YOU
10:16:57 TO HIM AND RECOGNIZE HIM TO COUNCIL.
10:17:00 AND WITH THAT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE IT OUT IF
10:17:03 ANYONE HAS ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
10:17:07 AGAIN, I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE THEM.
10:17:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?
10:17:10 ANY COMMENTS?
10:17:12 AGAIN, MR. JOHNSON, THANK YOU AND THE COMMITTEE FOR
10:17:14 YOUR WORK.
10:17:21 TAKES A LOT OF EFFORTS AND APPLAUD YOUR WORK AND
10:17:24 RECOGNIZE STAFF FOR THE WORK THEY DO.
10:17:28 APPRECIATIVE OF THAT AND I KNOW MIKE IS APPRECIATIVE
10:17:36 THAT YOU ARE GIVING HIM A SHOUT OUT FOR THE WORK HE IS
10:17:37 DOING OVER THERE.
10:17:48 >> THANK YOU, SIR WALK-ON ITEM.
10:17:49 CHIEF DELGADO.
10:17:57 AGAIN, COUNCIL, WE WILL HEAR FROM THE CHIEF AND TAKE
10:18:05 COMMENT FROM THAT ITEM AND LET MEMBERS COMMENT AND I
10:18:08 SEE CHIEF BENNETT ON THE LINE AS WELL.
10:18:12 >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN.
10:18:14 JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:18:19 BEFORE CHIEF DELGADO SPEAKS.
10:18:23 AND I APPRECIATE CITY COUNCIL FOR ACCOMMODATING THIS IN
10:18:25 A BUSY WORKSHOP.
10:18:29 AND THE MINUTIA OF TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE HOUSED AND TO
10:18:29 KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.
10:18:32 AS WE KNOW BETWEEN COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION AND
10:18:35 IN THE SPIRIT OF ALWAYS BEING IN A SITUATION OF
10:18:38 CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT, HOUSING IS IS ONE OF THE MOST
10:18:42 BASIC NEEDS OF THE PERSONAL HIERARCHIES.
10:18:45 AND SO IS THE SENSE OF PERSONAL SAFETY.
10:18:49 THERE ARE LITERALLY CRIMINAL THEORIES OUT THERE WHY
10:18:52 PEOPLE COMMIT SERIOUS CRIME, BUT THE ONE COMMON
10:18:56 DENOMINATOR FOR US IS THE SOCIAL DISORDER THAT ANY OF
10:19:00 THOSE OUTCOMES CAN EFFECT MANY, INCLUDING THOSE WHO ARE
10:19:02 DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY IMPACTED.
10:19:05 WE KNOW THAT THE MAYOR, THE ADMINISTRATION AND YOU,
10:19:07 COUNCIL, ARE TRYING TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY MORE
10:19:09 RESILIENT EVERY DAY.
10:19:12 STRATEGIC FOCUS OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT THAT INVOLVES
10:19:15 EDUCATION AND TRAINING, HOUSING AFFORDABILITY THAT WE
10:19:19 JUST TALKED ABOUT, MOBILITY AS A SERVICE, ALL LEAD TO
10:19:22 AN INDIVIDUAL AND FAMILIES AND RESILIENCE IS OUTLINED
10:19:25 IN THE TAMPA RESILIENCE ROAD MAP.
10:19:28 OUR ADMINISTRATION UPDATE THAT WE APPRECIATE COUNCIL
10:19:32 RECOGNIZING THAT AND HONORING THAT IS NOT SOLELY ABOUT
10:19:35 THIS PROGRAM BUT MAKING OUR COMMUNITY MORE RESILIENT TO
10:19:37 EVERYONE CAN THRIVE AND BE THE BEST VERSION OF
10:19:38 THEMSELVES.
10:19:42 WITH THAT I WILL GIVE IT TO CHIEF DELGADO AND AROUND TO
10:19:45 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.
10:19:53 THANK YOU.
10:19:58 >>CHIEF DELGADO: THANK YOU, CHIEF BENNETT AND GOOD
10:19:59 MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:20:02 RUBEN DELGADO, ACTING CHIEF.
10:20:06 I APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU SET ASIDE TO DISCUSS THIS
10:20:09 CRIME-FREE HOUSING PROGRAM THAT THE TAMPA POLICE
10:20:10 DEPARTMENT HAS.
10:20:12 I WANT TO LEVEL SET THE PROGRAM A LITTLE BIT TO GIVE
10:20:15 YOU AN UNDERSTANDING WHEN IT STARTED, SOME OF THE
10:20:17 TRANSITIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH OVER THE YEARS
10:20:19 WITH THIS PROGRAM.
10:20:23 EXPLAIN WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO THE CITY THAT WE HAVE
10:20:27 THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM AND THEN BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER
10:20:29 ANY QUESTIONS IF I LEAVE SOME STUFF OFF.
10:20:33 SO THE CRIME-FREE PROGRAM IN TAMPA STARTED BACK IN 2013
10:20:38 WHEN WE HAD A CERTAIN AREA THE CITY, GRID 33, WHICH IS
10:20:41 UP BY THE RIVER IN THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE CITY THAT
10:20:45 WAS HIGHLY DENSE -- DENSELY POPULATED WITH APARTMENT
10:20:49 COMPLEXES AND WE SAW HUGE AMOUNT OF CRIME WITHIN THOSE
10:20:50 APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
10:20:54 AND THAT FOR US SEARCHING FOR SOME SORT OF PROGRAM TO
10:20:57 HELP THE VICTIM OF THOSE APARTMENT COMPLEXES LIVE IN
10:21:00 PEACE AND HAVE THE SAME QUALITY OF LIFE AS YOU, ME, AND
10:21:03 ANYBODY ELSE DESERVES TO LIVE IN.
10:21:06 THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM WAS BASED ON A COUPLE OF
10:21:06 THINGS.
10:21:09 BASED ON CRIME-FREE HOUSING AND TO FOCUS ON THREE
10:21:10 THINGS.
10:21:13 THE EDUCATION OF THE PROGRAM TO BRING AWARENESS OF IT.
10:21:15 OUR GOAL WAS TO REDUCE THE CRIME WITHIN THE APARTMENT
10:21:16 COMPLEXES.
10:21:19 WORKING WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX MANAGERS AND GIVING
10:21:22 EVERYBODY THAT LIVE THERE THE THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS IN
10:21:24 THERE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE SAME QUALITY OF LIFE
10:21:26 AS EVERYBODY ELSE.
10:21:27 THE SECOND PART OF THAT WAS A CRIME PREVENTION
10:21:33 PRACTICES SECTION, WHICH IS WHAT WE CALL AND THE LAW
10:21:37 ENFORCEMENT WORLD AS THE CEPTED REVIEW AND I KNOW
10:21:40 CHAIRMAN GUDES KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS, BUT IT IS
10:21:45 CALLED CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN.
10:21:49 WE HAVE AN OFFICER TRAINED IN THE CEPTED DESIGN AND WE
10:21:52 GO THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND LOOK FOR WAYS TO IMPROVE
10:21:54 SECURITY MEASURES AND SAFETY MEASURES WHETHER THAT IS
10:21:57 LIGHTING OR THE LOCKS THEY HAVE ON THEIR DOORS, HOW
10:22:01 THEY KEEP THEIR BUSHES AND HEDGES AND FENCING.
10:22:05 SEVERAL THINGS THEY CAN TO DO DETER CRIMINAL ACTIVITY
10:22:09 AND KEEP THEIR APARTMENT COMPLEXES NATURALLY SAFE AND
10:22:12 TARGET PART OF THE DOORS AND WINDOWS TO PREVENT CRIMES.
10:22:14 WE WITH THEM.
10:22:18 WE GIVE THEM RECOMMENDATIONS OF HOW TO KEEP PROPERTIES
10:22:20 SAFER AND WORK WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THIS PROGRAM TO
10:22:26 ENSURE THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO GET ALL OF THE STUFF
10:22:26 COMPLETED.
10:22:31 THE OTHER PART OF THIS THAT WE DO WITH NO OTHER
10:22:34 INITIATIVES, ENHANCING RELATIONSHIPS WITH APARTMENT
10:22:35 MANAGERS.
10:22:39 MAKING SURE WE ARE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THEM TO
10:22:40 REDUCE CRIME.
10:22:42 LIKE ANY INITIATIVE THAT WE HAVE, THIS PROGRAM FROM
10:22:46 2013 UP UNTIL LAST WEEK HAVE UNDERGONE SEVERAL
10:22:49 EVALUATIONS, SEVERAL MODIFICATIONS OVER YEARS.
10:22:52 AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE FOCUS OF THE
10:22:55 OVERARCHING THEME OF THIS PROGRAM, AND THAT IS TO KEEP
10:22:58 PROVIDING THE SAME QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THESE RESIDENTS
10:23:02 OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND REDUCE THE NUMBER OF
10:23:05 VICTIMS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE SUBJECT TO CRIMINAL
10:23:11 ACTIVITY ON APARTMENT COMPLEXES IF -- IF THE INITIATIVE
10:23:11 WASN'T THERE.
10:23:14 SOME OF THE CHANGES WORTH NOTING AND I WILL GO THROUGH
10:23:14 THEM.
10:23:18 I WON'T TAKE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON IT BUT I WILL RUN
10:23:20 THROUGH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE WORTH TALKING
10:23:21 ABOUT.
10:23:26 IN 2015, WE REVIEWED THE PROGRAM BASED ON A FEW COURT
10:23:28 RULINGS THAT CAME OUT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY,
10:23:31 AND WE AS A CITY AT THAT TIME.
10:23:37 WE DIDN'T DO IT IN '13 AND MAINTAINED THE POSITION NOT
10:23:38 TO DO THE CITY ORDINANCE.
10:23:43 MOST OF THE CITIES HAD AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALMOST
10:23:46 MANDATE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
10:23:49 MANDATE SOME THINGS ONCE A NOTICE OF ARREST WAS GIVEN.
10:23:50 WE DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT.
10:23:55 WE MADE OURS VOLUNTARY BY THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
10:23:58 BEEN VOLUNTARY SINCE THE BEGINNING STAND REMAINS 100%
10:23:59 VOLUNTARY.
10:24:02 THEY OPT INTO BEING PART OF THE PROGRAM.
10:24:06 2016, HUD ISSUED SOME GUIDANCES AGAINST THOSE
10:24:06 ORDINANCES.
10:24:11 WE, AGAIN, LOOKED AT WHAT HUD'S RECOMMENDATION WERE FOR
10:24:14 HUD PROPERTIES AND MADE SURE THEY WERE FOLLOWING THE
10:24:17 HUD GUIDELINES AND NOTHING IN OUR POLICY THAT WERE
10:24:18 VIOLATING ANY OF THAT.
10:24:24 2018, WE HAND-DELIVERED A LETTER DRAFTED BY OUR LEGAL
10:24:27 ADVISOR TO ALL THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AT THE TIME THAT
10:24:31 WERE PARTICIPATING IN OUR CRIME REDUCTION PROGRAM.
10:24:36 AND I WILL JUST READ A LITTLE SNIPPET -- I HAVE A THING
10:24:38 -- BUT YOU READ THE SNIPPET.
10:24:40 PROVIDING RESIDENT INFORMATION TO THE PROGRAM
10:24:42 PARTICIPANTS, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IS MAKE NOTHING
10:24:47 RECOMMENDATION WHETHER LANDLORD SHOULD RENT TO A
10:24:53 PROSPECTIVE TENANT AND ONE DECISION OF LANDLORD ON A
10:24:54 CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
10:24:57 AN ARREST BY ITSELF IS NO PROOF THAT AN OFFICER
10:25:00 ARRESTED COMMITTED THE CHARGE.
10:25:03 AND WE WANTED TO STRESS THAT SO THERE IS NO INDICATION
10:25:06 WE WERE TRYING TO INFLUENCE ANY DECISION THE APARTMENTS
10:25:07 MAKE.
10:25:10 THEY MAKE ANY DECISION ON SCREENINGS AND EVICTIONS 100%
10:25:13 A MANAGEMENT DECISION BASED ON INFORMATION GIVEN TO
10:25:16 THEM.
10:25:19 IN 2019 IS WHERE WE MADE SOME MORE CHANGES TO THE
10:25:20 PROGRAM.
10:25:23 AND, AGAIN, IT IS JUST A PROCESS OF EVALUATING WHAT WE
10:25:23 HAVE.
10:25:25 WE DO IT WITH ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS.
10:25:30 IN 2019, WE MADE SOME ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS THAT WE DID
10:25:33 AWAY WHAT THEY CALL A GOAL LIST.
10:25:37 AN OFFENDER AWARENESS LIST AND BASICALLY A DATA BASE.
10:25:40 IF YOU READ THE PAPER -- IF YOU READ THE ARTICLE IN THE
10:25:43 PAPER, IT STATES ITS GOAL IS -- SOMETHING WE DON'T
10:25:43 POPULATE.
10:25:46 IT MADE AN ASSUMPTION THAT WE DO.
10:25:49 THERE IS NO OFFENDER LIST.
10:25:54 WE CLARIFIED THE FORMS AND UNDERSCORED THAT THE
10:25:56 PARTICIPATION WAS 100% VOLUNTARY BY THE APARTMENT
10:25:57 COMPLEXES.
10:26:00 A LEASE ADDENDUM THAT THE NATIONAL PROGRAM HAS IN 2019
10:26:04 AND WE EVEN STARTED -- STOPPED TAKING PART OF THAT
10:26:05 LEASE ADDENDUM.
10:26:08 NO MORE LEASE ADDENDUM OF ANY OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX
10:26:12 LEASES THAT THEY NEGOTIATE WITH THEIR TENANTS.
10:26:13 THAT DOESN'T EXIST.
10:26:16 WE CLARIFIED AGAIN WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT WE
10:26:19 HAD NO PART IN ANY SCREENING SERVICES OR EVICTION
10:26:20 PROCESS.
10:26:23 AND THAT DECISION WAS SOLELY BASED ON THE DEPARTMENT'S
10:26:26 DECISION BASED ON OTHER FACTORS GOING ON WITH THE
10:26:27 TENANTS.
10:26:29 SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE AWARE
10:26:31 AND I THINK YOU ARE.
10:26:35 SO NO NEW PROPERTY HAS BEEN ADDED SINCE 2018.
10:26:38 AFTER WE MADE THESE ADJUSTMENTS AND STILL DOING CHANGES
10:26:41 IN '19, WE DIDN'T ADD ANY MORE PROPERTIES.
10:26:44 AND THEN, OF COURSE, COVID HIT SHORTLY AFTER.
10:26:48 AND SO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX NUMBER HAS STAY THE SAME
10:26:51 OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST TWO YEARS -- TWO AND A HALF
10:26:54 YEARS AND WE HAVEN'T ADDED ANYTHING TO IT OTHER THAN
10:26:57 MAINTAINING THE ONES THAT WE HAVE AND CONTINUING TO
10:26:58 STAY IN CONTACT WITH THEM.
10:27:01 I KNOW EVERYBODY HAS PROBABLY READ THE ARTICLE.
10:27:03 AND WE ACTUALLY SAT DOWN WITH THE EDITOR BEFORE THE
10:27:07 ARTICLE AND AFTER THE ARTICLE AND A LOT OF THINGS IN
10:27:12 THE ARTICLE THAT WERE CLEARLY ONE-SIDED.
10:27:14 WITHOUT GETTING INTO DETAILS OF THAT, I WANT -- AFTER
10:27:18 THE ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN, WE IMMEDIATELY HAD
10:27:22 CONVERSATIONS WITH CHAIRMAN GUDES AND REPRESENTATIVE
10:27:23 HART.
10:27:26 AND I WANT TO THANK CHAIRMAN GUDES AND REPRESENT HART
10:27:29 WITH THOSE BECAUSE WE HAD PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS WHAT
10:27:30 WAS IN THE ARTICLE.
10:27:33 WE HAD GOOD MEETINGS AND DURING THOSE MEETINGS AND
10:27:34 TAKEAWAYS.
10:27:37 I WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS I DID RIGHT AWAY
10:27:39 AFTER GETTING THE INFORMATION AND EXPLAINING THE
10:27:40 POSITION WE WERE IN.
10:27:42 SO WE CLARIFIED SOME LANGUAGE IN THE PROGRAM AND ADDED
10:27:45 MORE OVERSIGHT TO THE PROGRAM.
10:27:46 AND I WILL GO OVER SOME.
10:27:50 SO WHAT WE DID IMMEDIATELY IS -- I HAD A SPECIFIC -- WE
10:27:53 IDENTIFIED SPECIFIC FELONY CRIMES AND FELONY DRUG
10:27:58 ARRESTS THAT WOULD -- THAT WOULD BE IN THE FRAMEWORK OF
10:28:00 WHAT CRIMES WOULD BE NOTIFIED TO THE APARTMENT
10:28:01 COMPLEXES.
10:28:04 WHEN I SAY THE FELONIES, I AM TALKING THE VIOLENT
10:28:09 FELONIES: ROBBERIES, MURDERS, AGGRAVATED BATTERY.
10:28:11 IF SOMEBODY IS IN THE PROPERTY AND BEATING SOMEBODY
10:28:14 WITH A PIPE OR SHOOTING AT THEM, THOSE TYPES OF ARRESTS
10:28:18 IS THE ONE WE WOULD NOTIFY THE LANDLORD THAT ARRESTS
10:28:19 WERE MADE ON THE PROPERTY.
10:28:23 ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT THAT I ADDED WAS -- BEHIND ME IS
10:28:25 CAPTAIN BRIAN HILL.
10:28:26 HE WILL SPEAK IN A SECOND.
10:28:31 SO ANOTHER LAYER WHERE CAPTAIN HILL HAS TO PHYSICALLY
10:28:34 GET THE INFORMATION FROM THE OFFICERS.
10:28:37 THERE ARE THREE OFFICERS THAT OVERSEE THE PROGRAM IN
10:28:39 EACH OF OUR THREE DISTRICTS BEFORE ANY NOTIFICATION
10:28:43 GOES OUT TO A LANDLORD, CAPTAIN HILL REVIEWS IT.
10:28:45 MAKES SURE IT FALLS IN THE NEW GUIDELINES OF THE
10:28:46 POLICY.
10:28:48 HE WILL SIGN OFF ON IT AND DELIVER IT TO THE APARTMENT
10:28:49 COMPLEX.
10:28:53 WE LIMIT IT TO ON-PROPERTY ONLY.
10:28:56 THE OFFENSES -- THE HUD GUIDELINES -- THE HUD
10:28:59 GUIDELINES IS ON OR NEAR THE PROPERTY WHICH IS HOW THAT
10:29:00 CURRENTLY WRITES.
10:29:03 WE HAVE TAKEN OURS AND MADE IT -- IT IS JUST ON
10:29:03 PROPERTY.
10:29:07 IF THE CRIME DOESN'T HAPPEN ON THE PROPERTY, THE NOTICE
10:29:09 OF ARREST DOESN'T GO TO ONE OF THE LANDLORDS.
10:29:12 I WILL FINISH UP ON A COUPLE OF THINGS BUT BEFORE I DO,
10:29:15 HAVE CAPTAIN HILL STEP UP AND TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAM AS
10:29:20 IT EXISTS TODAY.
10:29:23 SOME OF THE THINGS HE IS WORKING ON AND WHAT HE IS
10:29:26 DOING AND I WILL COME BACK IN A MINUTE AND FINISH OFF.
10:29:26 BRIAN.
10:29:28 >>CAPTAIN HILL: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:29:33 FOR THE RECORD, BRIAN HILL -- CAPTAIN BRIAN HILL,
10:29:33 SORRY.
10:29:36 I WILL GIVE A OVERVIEW OF THE CURRENT STATE OF THE
10:29:38 PROGRAM AND HOW WE WILL OPERATE MOVING FORWARD.
10:29:40 CURRENTLY 42 PROPERTIES.
10:29:44 THOSE 42 PROPERTIES ARE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, SOUTH
10:29:48 TAMPA, EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA.
10:29:53 OF THOSE 42 PROPERTIES.
10:29:56 AND THE MAP THAT IS INDICATED ON THE SCREEN.
10:30:00 COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR, WE HAVE DISTRICT 3.
10:30:03 COUNCIL DISTRICT 6, WE HAVE FIVE.
10:30:08 COUNCIL DISTRICT 7.
10:30:10 AND 42 THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
10:30:12 AND SOME ARE PUBLIC.
10:30:13 SOME ARE PRIVATE.
10:30:15 THERE IS A MIXTURE OF BOTH.
10:30:19 OVER THE LAST YEAR SINCE JANUARY 1, WE PROVIDED THESE
10:30:22 PROPERTIES WITH A TOTAL OF 24 NOTICE OF ARREST.
10:30:26 ONE OF THE ASSESSMENTS THAT WE WENT BACK AND DID TO SEE
10:30:27 WHERE WE WERE.
10:30:32 WE NOTED WITHIN THE 24, THERE WERE SOME NOAS.
10:30:37 NOTICE OF ARRESTS THAT COUNT ON OUTLINE AND MISS DEAN
10:30:38 OF THIS POLICY.
10:30:41 EXTRA OVERSIGHT ADDED WITH MYSELF BEING PERSONALLY
10:30:44 RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING EACH ONE OF THOSE NOTICES OF
10:30:47 ARREST MOVING FORWARD AND PROPERLY SIGNING THEM OFF TO
10:30:51 MAKE SURE THAT WE DO MEET -- DEALING WITH VIOLENT
10:30:55 CRIME, GANG ACTIVITY OR FELONY DRUG ARREST.
10:30:58 ONCE THAT CRIME-FREE OFFICE AS CHIEF STATED, WE HAVE
10:31:00 THREE THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENT.
10:31:01 ONE IN EACH DISTRICT.
10:31:04 I OVERSEE THEIR DAILY OPERATIONS.
10:31:07 SO WHEN THEY PROVIDE THAT DOCUMENT TO ME, I GO OVER IT
10:31:10 AND MAKE SURE IT MEETS OUR CRITERIA.
10:31:12 IF IT MEETS OUR CRITERIA.
10:31:13 I SIGN OFF ON IT.
10:31:16 GIVE BACK TO THEM AND ELECTRONICALLY DELIVERED TO THE
10:31:19 PROPERTY MANAGER VIA E-MAIL TO ENSURE THEM THAT THEY
10:31:22 ARE GETTING THEIR NOTICE OF ARREST AND PROPER NOTICE OF
10:31:22 ARREST.
10:31:25 THAT WAS THE EXTRA OVERSIGHT THAT WE ADDED.
10:31:28 JUST TO KIND OF GIVE AN INDICATION OF WHERE -- HOW THE
10:31:31 PROGRAM HAS HELPED US OVER THE YEARS.
10:31:35 WITH CRIME-FREE PROPERTIES, THERE WAS A 37.1% DROP IN
10:31:36 CRIME.
10:31:39 THAT COULD BE VIOLENT CRIME, DRUG OFFENSES.
10:31:42 COVER ALL THE -- BASES.
10:31:44 THE PROGRAM WORKS OPINION.
10:31:47 WE HAD AREA WHERE WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE MESSED UP AND
10:31:50 MOVING FORWARD, WE WILL MAKE SURE WE NO LONGER HAVE
10:31:53 THOSE ISSUES AND THE FIRST LEVEL OF DEFENSE TO MAKE
10:31:54 SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
10:31:57 IF I MAY IN CLOSING, I WANT TO PROVIDE A STATEMENT AND
10:31:59 PROVIDE ONE OF OUR PROPERTY MANAGERS WHO COULD NOT BE
10:32:02 HERE AND WISH TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS.
10:32:05 AND SHE IS OVER ONE OF OUR LARGER PROPERTIES THAT WE
10:32:06 PARTNERSHIP WITH.
10:32:10 AS A PROPERTY MANAGER, ONE OF MY DUTIES TO ENSURE ALL
10:32:13 RESIDENTS ABIDE BY OUR LEASE AGREEMENT, HOUSE RULES AND
10:32:14 ADDENDUM.
10:32:17 SOME OF THOSE RULES OF THE PEACEFUL AND QUIET ENJOYMENT
10:32:21 OF ALL RESIDENTS AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH FLORIDA STATE
10:32:24 STATUTE.
10:32:27 HISTORY OF -- SHE GOES TO TALK ABOUT THE FACTS THAT
10:32:30 LEAD TO THE EVICTION PROCESS.
10:32:35 SHE STATES THAT HISTORY OF CONSTANT DISTURBANCES
10:32:40 HAVE LED TO PROBLEMS ON THE PROPERTY AND/OR
10:32:45 THREATS THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OTHER TENANTS
10:32:50 THE CRIME-FREE PROGRAM STRENGTHENING THE CASES THAT IT
10:32:51 ALREADY BUILDING.
10:32:56 IT CONFIRMS THAT WE ARE NOT THE SOLE AND LAST PERSON TO
10:32:59 DETERMINE IF THE PERSON IS EVICTED FROM PROPERTIES.
10:33:01 WE HAVE NO DEALINGS OF THAT.
10:33:04 ONCE WE GIVE THE PROPERTY THE NOTICE OF ARREST, OUR
10:33:05 HANDS ARE OUT OF IT.
10:33:07 OUR MAIN REASON FOR BEING INVOLVED WITH PROPERTIES IN
10:33:12 THE PARTNERSHIP IS TO AGAIN PIGGYBACK WHAT CHIEF
10:33:15 DELGADO SAYS TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE IN THE COMMUNITY
10:33:19 JUST AS WE WOULD WANT IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE LIVE
10:33:20 IN.
10:33:20 THANK YOU.
10:33:21 >> THANK YOU, BRIAN.
10:33:26 I WANT TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE MORE THINGS AND THEN I CAN
10:33:28 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
10:33:30 SO, AGAIN, I WANT TO STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF
10:33:34 INITIATIVES LIKE THIS FOR THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT
10:33:38 WHERE THE GOAL OF THIS ENTIRE PROGRAM IS TO PROVIDE A
10:33:42 SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THOSE APARTMENT
10:33:44 COMPLEXES JUST LIKE WE DO WITH NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH AND
10:33:46 OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
10:33:49 AND ENJOY THE SAME QUALITY OF LIFE AS YOU DO IN YOUR
10:33:50 NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:33:51 AS I DO IN MINE.
10:33:54 WE OFTEN FORGET OF THE THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS THAT LIVE
10:33:57 IN THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT HAVE A NORMAL LIFE.
10:34:00 THEY WANT TO HAVE THEIR KIDS COME OUT AND PLAY AT
10:34:01 NIGHT.
10:34:02 SOMETIMES THEY CAN'T DO THAT.
10:34:04 SOMETIMES WHEN THE PERSON NEXT DOOR IS DEALING DRUGS
10:34:08 OUT OF THE HOUSE AND ROBBING PEOPLE, THAT QUALITY OF
10:34:12 LIFE GOES AWAY AND THEY LIVE IN FEAR WHEN THEY LIVE IN
10:34:12 THEIR HOUSE.
10:34:16 I HAVE SEEN IT DRIVING AROUND IN PATROL YEARS AGO.
10:34:19 CHAIRMAN GUDES, I KNOW YOU HAVE SEEN IT DRIVING AROUND
10:34:21 WHEN YOU USED TO WORK FOR US FOR 30 YEARS.
10:34:22 IT IS REAL.
10:34:25 THE REALITY IS, THERE ARE VIOLENT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
10:34:25 THIS CITY.
10:34:28 AND THEY DO VIOLENT THINGS.
10:34:30 AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT THE CITY DOES AND
10:34:32 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES TO TRY TO KEEP THE CITIZENS
10:34:33 SAFE.
10:34:35 I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THERE IS A RISE IN
10:34:37 VIOLENT CRIME.
10:34:40 THERE IS ABOUT A 30% RISE GOING ON.
10:34:41 A NATIONAL RISE.
10:34:43 BUT IN TAMPA, WE SEE IT AND FEEL IT.
10:34:46 OUR OFFICERS ARE OUT THERE EVERY DAY TRYING TO MAKE
10:34:47 THIS CITY SAFE.
10:34:49 INITIATIVES LIKE THIS, PARTNERSHIPS LIKE THIS, WITH THE
10:34:52 COMMUNITIES AND APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT WILL CONTINUE
10:34:55 TO KEEP THIS CITY ONE OF THE SAFEST CITIES IN THE
10:34:55 COUNTRY.
10:34:57 HAVE WE MADE MISTAKES IN THE PAST?
10:34:59 OF COURSE, WE DID.
10:35:02 DID WE GIVE NOTICE OF ARREST FOR STUFF THAT MAY OR MAY
10:35:03 NOT QUALIFIED?
10:35:05 YES, WE DID.
10:35:08 BUT -- BUT THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN EVERYTHING.
10:35:11 I HAVE OFFICERS THAT WRITE TICKETS, MISTAKINGLY GIVE
10:35:13 TICKETS TO PEOPLE THAT WE CORRECT.
10:35:15 THIS IS NO DIFFERENT.
10:35:19 TO SAY THE PROGRAM IS BAD BASED ON A FEW MISTAKES IS
10:35:23 NOT -- NOT SOMETHING THAT IS HEALTHY FOR SAFETY OF THE
10:35:24 CITIZENS OF THE CITY.
10:35:26 YOU KNOW, AGAIN, OUR OFFICERS ARE OUT THERE EVERY DAY
10:35:30 WORKING HARD TO KEEP THEM SAFE, AND THAT ONE OF THE
10:35:33 TOOLS OF MANY THAT WE USE TO KEEP THE CITY SAFE.
10:35:36 NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO TURN THIS DOWN.
10:35:37 IS NOT THE TIME TO PAUSE THIS.
10:35:39 I LOOKED AT THIS A WEEK AGO.
10:35:42 I MADE THE THREE IMMEDIATE CHANGES THAT WE CAN AT LEAST
10:35:43 GET MORE OVERSIGHT ON IT.
10:35:47 I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS PROGRAM, AND
10:35:49 JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, CONTINUE TO MONITOR IT.
10:35:52 CONTINUE TO MODIFY IT.
10:35:54 ALWAYS HAVE ONE OR TWO SITUATIONS THAT WE KNOW OF THAT
10:35:57 MAY OR MAY NOR SEEM LIKE THE RIGHT THING TO DO BECAUSE
10:36:05 THIS PROGRAM EXISTS AND SOMETIMES GET CAUGHT UP IN IF
10:36:09 -- AND THE ARTICLE MAKES A GREAT LEAP OF NOTICE OF
10:36:11 ARREST AND EVICTION.
10:36:15 THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE NOTICE IS CAUSING THE EVICTION.
10:36:17 THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
10:36:19 WE GET CAUGHT UP IN A SITUATION WHEN A GRANDMOTHER IS
10:36:23 STRUGGLING TO HAVE ONE OF HER KIDS WHO IS OUT OF
10:36:26 CONTROL AND WENT DOWN A WRONG PATH AND NEEDS GUIDANCE.
10:36:30 WE TRY LIKE HELL TO PUT PROGRAMS WITH THE RICH HOUSE
10:36:33 AND BIGS IN BLUE AND AMI AND THERE ARE PROGRAMS TO TRY
10:36:35 TO GET THESE KIDS.
10:36:38 BUT LIKE I SAID EARLIER VIOLENT KIDS.
10:36:41 17-YEAR-OLDS DOING VIOLENT STUFF.
10:36:43 AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PROGRAM TO KEEP THIS CITY
10:36:44 SAFE.
10:36:45 NOW IS NOT THE TIME.
10:36:47 WE ARE MONITORING IT EVERY DAY.
10:36:51 AGAIN, I WANT TO STRESS THAT WE HAVE AS AN AGENCY HAVE
10:36:54 A RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP THE CITY SAFE AND KEEP
10:36:58 REDUCING CRIME AND IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
10:37:00 THIS PROGRAM FOCUSES ON CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR.
10:37:04 THIS IS WHAT THIS FOCUSES ON.
10:37:07 SOMEONE GETS ARRESTED FOR A CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR, THAT
10:37:09 THIS IS ALL THIS IS FOCUSING ON.
10:37:11 AGAIN, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE WANT TO TALK
10:37:14 ABOUT AND I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AND
10:37:15 DISCUSSION.
10:37:18 AND, AGAIN, I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME INPUT.
10:37:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF, WHAT I WANT TO DO -- I HATE TO
10:37:24 BE RUDE -- WHAT I WANT TO DO BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF
10:37:26 PEOPLE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEMS.
10:37:29 I DON'T WANT COUNCIL TO BOG DOWN ANSWERS QUESTIONS AND
10:37:32 COME BACK AND INTERTWINE WHAT SOME OF THE SPEAKERS MAY
10:37:33 WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
10:37:35 I WOULD RATHER AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT OPEN IT UP FOR
10:37:38 PUBLIC COMMENT AND THAT WAY COUNCIL CAN JOT DOWN WHAT
10:37:41 PEOPLE ARE SAYING AND YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO REBUKE SOME
10:37:43 OF THE COMMENTS MAY BE WITH THE PROGRAM.
10:37:44 IS THAT FINE WITH YOU, SIR?
10:37:50 >> IT'S FAIR.
10:37:50 PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:37:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN.
10:37:56 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY ATTORNEY.
10:37:59 WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:38:04 WHAT IS YOUR INTENTION TO HAVE A CONVERSATION?
10:38:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW OUR STICKLER FOR ATTENTION,
10:38:11 BUT MY INTENTION TO OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT SO
10:38:14 WHILE THE CHIEF IS HERE, WE CAN ADDRESS WHATEVER ISSUES
10:38:18 AND CONCERNS AND CONTINUE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT
10:38:19 AFTERWARDS.
10:38:22 WE NEED TO BITE OF THE APPLE --
10:38:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION SO
10:38:29 THE PEOPLE ON THE SECOND FLOOR OR PEOPLE ON -- WHO HAVE
10:38:34 PREREGISTERTHIS SECTION IS SOLELY ON THIS ISSUE.
10:38:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOLELY ON THIS ISSUE.
10:38:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ENTERTAIN THE WORKSHOP ON CRIME-FREE
10:38:55 HOUSING PROGRAM ONLY.
10:39:11 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:39:22 IF YOU WILL STEP OVER TO THE MIC, MISS PEEPLES.
10:39:26 >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS KAREN PEEPLES, AND I'M HERE
10:39:30 THIS MORNING TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE THAT IS BEFORE US.
10:39:36 I WANT TO SAY THAT THE PROGRAM FOR THE APARTMENTS WHICH
10:39:41 IS IN FOCUS NOW, WE DO NEED TO KEEP THIS PROGRAM HERE
10:39:44 IN REFERENCE TO THIS, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BE VERY
10:39:48 CAUTIOUS IN REFERENCE TO HAVING THE RESIDENTS EVICTED
10:39:51 OUT ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
10:39:55 WHEN -- WHEN RESIDENTS ARE EVICTED OUT OF THEIR UNIT,
10:39:58 IT MEANS THE WHOLE ENTIRE FAMILY.
10:40:01 WE DON'T NEED TO EEXHIBIT THE WHOLE ENTIRE FAMILY.
10:40:04 WE JUST NEED TO DO WHAT IT IS FOR THE PERSON WHO WAS
10:40:07 DOING THE CRIME OR ANYTHING IN THAT MANNER.
10:40:12 WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT ON THE PROPERTY OF SILVER OAKS,
10:40:15 BUT I DO THINK THAT THE PROGRAM SHOULD STAY IN PLACE,
10:40:16 WHAT IS GOING ON.
10:40:19 AND I DO WISH TO GET MORE INVOLVED WITH THIS PROGRAM IN
10:40:23 REFERENCE TO THE RESIDENTS.
10:40:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS PEEPLES.
10:40:43 >> THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
10:40:45 >> GOOD MORNING, JAMES MICHAEL SHAW JR.
10:40:48 I THINK YOU KNOW ME.
10:40:51 THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD PASS AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS
10:40:53 ANYONE WHO GETS ARRESTED CAN'T LIVE IN THE CITY
10:40:56 ANYMORE, NEITHER CAN THE REST OF THEIR FAMILY.
10:40:59 THAT ORDINANCE WOULD BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
10:41:02 YOU WOULD NEVER PASS THAT ORDINANCE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
10:41:05 YOUR PHONES WOULD BE LIT UP BY YOUR CONSTITUENTS SAYING
10:41:07 NOT TO PASS SOMETHING THAT HEAVY HANDED.
10:41:10 BUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE COST OF HOUSING, IT WAS
10:41:11 IMPLEMENTED THAT WAY.
10:41:15 IF YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO PURCHASE A HOME -- TO PURCHASE
10:41:15 A HOME.
10:41:18 IF YOU CAN ONLY AFFORD TO RENT AND THAT IS A LOT OF
10:41:21 PEOPLE, BEING THE ARREST OF A FAMILY MEMBER MEANS YOU
10:41:23 CAN'T LIVE IN THE CITY.
10:41:26 YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY BANISHED, EXILED FROM THE CITY AND
10:41:29 YOU WOULD NEVER PASS THAT ORDINANCE, BUT IT GOT PASSED
10:41:32 BY THE POLICE ONLY ABOUT 17% OF WHOM ACTUALLY LIVE IN
10:41:33 THE CITY.
10:41:35 THEY DON'T HAVE TO LIVE UNDER THE HEAVY HANDED REGIME
10:41:37 THAT THEY HAVE IMPOSED ON OTHERS.
10:41:42 NOW THIS PROGRAM WAS DREAMED UP IN 1992 BY A RIGHT-WING
10:41:44 THINK TANK IN ARIZONA.
10:41:47 AND IT WAS BROUGHT DIRECTLY TO OUR COMMUNITIES THROUGH
10:41:49 THE POLICE WITHOUT PUBLIC INPUT.
10:41:52 WITHOUT EVEN PUBLIC AWARENESS.
10:41:56 YOU ARE THE CITY'S LEGISLATIVE BODY AND I ASK IF ALL OF
10:41:58 YOU KNEW ABOUT IT OR TO THE FULL EXTENT.
10:41:59 I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY DID.
10:42:02 AND I WILL TELL YOU WHAT YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT WHITE
10:42:05 PEOPLE WOULD NEVER TOLERATE A REGIME LIKE THIS FOR
10:42:05 THEMSELVES.
10:42:08 THEY WOULD NEVER LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE IF THEIR
10:42:12 TEENAGED SON GETS ARRESTED FOR SHOPLIFTING, THE WHOLE
10:42:14 FAMILY GETS EVICTED.
10:42:16 AND THEIR NOT LIVING UNDER THIS REGIME.
10:42:20 91% OF PEOPLE RECOMMENDED FOR EVICTION WERE BLACK IN
10:42:22 THE CITY WHERE BLACK PEOPLE IS 24% OF THE CITY'S
10:42:26 POPULATION BUT 91% OF THE PEOPLE RECOMMENDED FOR
10:42:26 EVICTIONS.
10:42:28 AND IT WAS DESIGNED THAT WAY.
10:42:31 I AM SHOWING YOU A COUPLE OF -- IF YOU LOOK AT THE
10:42:31 ELMO.
10:42:35 I AM SHOWING YOU A COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT ARE STRAIGHT
10:42:39 FROM THE POWERPOINT THAT WAS GIVEN TO LANDLORDS WHERE
10:42:43 IT SAYS CRIMINALS ARE LIKE WEEDS, THE BEST WAY TO KILL
10:42:46 THEM IS TO UPROOT THEM.
10:42:53 CHIEF DELGADO SAYS EVICTIONS WEREN'T DISCOURAGE $BUT
10:42:57 NOT FROM THIS SLIDE THAT SHOWS EVICT THEM.
10:43:01 IT DOESN'T JUST KILL THEM, IT VERY LOCATE THEM.
10:43:04 THIS HAS A PICTURE OF A SMILEY FACE WITH A ZIPPER THAT
10:43:07 SAYS WHEN DENYING THE APPLICATION USE YOUR WORDS
10:43:10 CAREFULLY BECAUSE DISCRIMINATION CAN BE FILED IF SAID
10:43:11 TOO MUCH.
10:43:15 SO THE INTENTION BEHIND THE PROGRAM WAS TO RELOCATE THE
10:43:18 BLACK POPULATION OF A CITY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
10:43:19 THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED.
10:43:22 YOU DON'T -- NOBODY LIKES CRIME.
10:43:23 NOBODY WANTS CRIME.
10:43:28 NOBODY WANTS CRIMINALS, BUT THE WAY TO FIGHT CRIME IS
10:43:34 NOT TO EVICT THE CRIMINALS' MOTHERS, BUT TO WORK WITH
10:43:37 THE COMMUNITY NOT SOMETHING THAT IS DREAMED UP BY A
10:43:39 RIGHT-WING THINK TANK.
10:43:44 INDULGE ME ON ITEM 9, I WILL SAYS IT UNACCEPTABLE THERE
10:43:46 SHOULD BE ANY FIRE STATIONS IN THE CITY THAT DON'T HAVE
10:43:52 A LADIES REST ROOM AND WE SHOULD HELP THE MINORITY
10:43:52 COMMUNITIES.
10:43:57 THANK YOU.
10:43:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE SLIDES CAME
10:44:01 FROM.
10:44:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHAW.
10:44:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU HAVE A NATIONAL WEB SITE.
10:44:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FROM WHOM --
10:44:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
10:44:26 STATE YOUR NAME.
10:44:27 YOU CAN BEGIN.
10:44:30 >> GOOD MORNING, YVONNE JACKSON.
10:44:34 AND I AM ALSO A CHAPLAIN FOR THE COMMUNITY.
10:44:37 THE APARTMENTS THAT I LIVE THIS IS THE APARTMENT OF
10:44:38 RIVER OAKS.
10:44:39 I WILL PUT IT RIGHT ON OUT THERE.
10:44:43 WE HAVE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF SHOOTINGS.
10:44:48 A LOT OF -- A LOT -- A LOT -- A LOT HAS BEEN GOING ON.
10:44:52 AND I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE POLICING THAT HAS BEEN
10:44:54 OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:44:57 WE HAVE GOT PRETTY CLOSE TO SOME OF THE POLICE OFFICERS
10:45:01 IN -- IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:45:03 ONE OFFICER BAKER.
10:45:04 I WOULD CALL HER.
10:45:07 I WOULD LET HER KNOW -- WE WOULD LET HER KNOW BECAUSE
10:45:12 SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THERE, THEY ARE AFRAID TO CALL
10:45:13 THE POLICE.
10:45:14 BUT THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY.
10:45:15 I AM NOT AFRAID.
10:45:16 I NEED TO CALL.
10:45:19 I NEED -- WE NEED OUR POLICING THERE.
10:45:24 WE NEED THEM LIKE -- LIKE WE NEED TO BREATHE AIR.
10:45:25 WE NEED THEM.
10:45:28 A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN HAPPENING IN THAT COMMUNITY.
10:45:30 THE ELDERLY ARE AFRAID.
10:45:32 THEY ARE AFRAID.
10:45:33 THEY ARE AFRAID.
10:45:36 SOME OF THEM WHEN THEY HEAR THE BULLETS, THEY GO TO
10:45:39 FALLING ON THE FLOOR, ON THE GROUND, BUT WHEN WE CALL
10:45:41 THE POLICE, THEY COME.
10:45:43 THEY COME TO OUR -- TO OUR AID.
10:45:48 AND WE ARE ASKING YOU ALL TO PLEASE DO NOT RID OF THIS
10:45:51 -- YOU KNOW OF THIS.
10:45:53 PLEASE DO NOT RID US.
10:45:53 PLEASE.
10:45:55 WE NEED THE HELP OUT THERE.
10:45:57 WHO ELSE ARE WE GOING TO CALL ON.
10:46:01 WE NEED THE POLICE ALL OVER THE STATE, NATION AND
10:46:01 EVERYWHERE.
10:46:04 WE NEED THEM THERE WHERE WE LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:46:05 WE NEED THE HELP.
10:46:06 PLEASE HELP US.
10:46:08 PLEASE DO NOT AVOID THIS.
10:46:12 PLEASE DO NOT THINK IT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T
10:46:12 NEED.
10:46:15 WE NEED IT.
10:46:16 WE NEED IT.
10:46:19 PLEASE, WHEN THE POLICE COME AND THEY COME AND SIT -- I
10:46:22 AM GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING, THERE WAS ONE APARTMENT
10:46:25 THEY WERE HAVING SO MUCH VIOLENCE WITH THE YOUNG PEOPLE
10:46:29 RUNNING IN SOMETIMES EIGHT, NINE, TEN OF THEM.
10:46:32 BUT SINCE WE CALLED THE POLICE, THEY ARE STARTED TO
10:46:33 FADE OUT.
10:46:35 THEY STARTED TO FADE OUT.
10:46:39 SO THAT LET'S ME KNOW THAT THEY SEE.
10:46:42 AND THEY HEAR THAT WE ARE NOT PLAYING WITH THIS.
10:46:46 SO WE REALLY -- I WOULD APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH IF YOU
10:46:51 WILL PUT IT INTO CONSIDERATION FOR US TO CONTINUE TO
10:46:52 HAVE THE POLICING.
10:46:54 PLEASE.
10:46:55 PLEASE PUT IT INTO CONSIDERATION.
10:46:56 PLEASE HELP US.
10:47:00 IF THERE IS ANY WAY YOU NEED ME TO HELP IN ANYWAY -- IN
10:47:01 AN AREA, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
10:47:03 THIS IS MY COMMUNITY.
10:47:03 THANK YOU.
10:47:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, PASTOR.
10:47:34 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:47:35 GOOD MORNING.
10:47:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME FOR US.
10:47:38 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:47:42 MY NAME IS REGRANLA JOHNSON.
10:47:45 AND I LIVE AT RIVER OAKS APARTMENTS WHERE THERE HAVE
10:47:49 BEEN GUNSHOTS DURING THE DAYTIME WHEN OUR BABIES ARE
10:47:49 OUT THERE.
10:47:53 AND YOU KNOW, ITS TERRIBLE -- AS WELL AS NIGHTTIME.
10:47:55 AND I AM 66 YEARS OLD.
10:47:56 NOT AFRAID TO SAY IT.
10:48:01 AND I AM GETTING TIRED OF HITTING THE FLOOR BECAUSE MY
10:48:05 MOM AND MY DAD ALWAYS TOLD US WHEN -- WHEN WE ARE IN A
10:48:07 SITUATION LIKE THAT TO ALWAYS TRUST AND BELIEVE IN THE
10:48:08 POLICE OFFICERS.
10:48:10 GO TO THEM.
10:48:10 CALL THEM.
10:48:15 I AM CALLING TO Y'ALL RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE NEED YOU
10:48:15 ALL.
10:48:16 WE NEED YOU.
10:48:17 PLEASE.
10:48:19 DON'T GIVE UP ON US.
10:48:21 GOD DIDN'T GIVE UP ON Y'ALL.
10:48:22 THANK YOU.
10:48:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:48:57 STATE YOUR NAME FOR US, SIR.
10:48:59 >> GOOD MORNING, I AM JOHNNY JOHNSON.
10:49:03 I'M HERE WITH MY CO-FOUNDER, PATRICIA BROWN.
10:49:05 WE ARE FOUNDERS OF RISE UP FOR PEACE.
10:49:08 COMMUNITY AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE AND OUR COMMUNITY
10:49:11 ORGANIZATION IS MADE UP OF FAMILIES WHO LOST THEIR KIDS
10:49:14 AND LOVED ONES TO THE SENSELESS GUN VIOLENCE GOING ON
10:49:15 IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:49:17 WE COME HERE THIS MORNING, FIRST OF ALL, TO SAY
10:49:20 EVERYBODY IS WELCOME TO COME OUT AND JOIN US ON OUR
10:49:24 ENDEAVOR OF TRYING TO TAKE BACK OUR COMMUNITY AND
10:49:25 REBUILD OUR VILLAGE.
10:49:32 AND WHAT WE ARE DOING AS A CRIME-FREE ABSOLUTELY GOES
10:49:33 HAND IN HAND.
10:49:37 DO Y'ALL UNDERSTAND THE MURDERS AND THE TRAGEDY THAT
10:49:39 OUR COMMUNITY HAS EXPERIENCED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF
10:49:40 YEARS.
10:49:43 I WANT TO READ RISE UP FOR PEACE VISION STATEMENT AND
10:49:46 MISSION STATEMENT SO WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT IS AT
10:49:47 STAKE.
10:49:48 HUMAN LIVES ARE AT STAKE.
10:49:51 OUR VISION IS TO BUILD A BRIDGE OF COMPASSION BY
10:49:54 EMBRACING PEACEFUL PRACTICE AND REINTRODUCING A
10:49:58 COMMUNITY OF BROTHERLY AND SISTERLY LOVE AS A SENSE OF
10:49:59 ONENESS.
10:50:04 WHAT IMPACTS ONE, MEANING YOU, IMPACTS ALL, MEANING ME
10:50:06 AND MY FAMILY.
10:50:09 OUR MISSION IS TO PROVIDE EMOTIONAL SUPPORT TO FAMILIES
10:50:13 WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES TO SENSELESS VIOLENCE UNITING
10:50:17 AS ONE VOICE, ONE SOUND AGAINST VIOLENCE WITH POOR
10:50:22 STRENGTH AND DIGNITY AND COLLECT THOUGHTS BY JOINING
10:50:25 FORCES WITH PUBLIC OFFICIALS SUCH AS YOURSELF, LAW
10:50:29 ENFORCEMENT AS I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CHIEF DELGADO,
10:50:33 MAJOR JON OUT SUPPORTING ON EVERY WALK.
10:50:35 EVERY WALK.
10:50:38 WE INVITED EVERYONE TO COME OUT.
10:50:42 OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, ELECTED OFFICIALS, ANY GROUP, ANY
10:50:42 ORGANIZATION TO COME OUT.
10:50:46 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU GUYS AND LIKE-MINDED
10:50:50 ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE THE HEART FOR HELPING HURTING
10:50:54 AND HELPLESS INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SEEKING CLOSURE AND
10:50:58 COMMITTED TO THE SOLE PURPOSE OF USHERING IN PEACE,
10:51:01 LOVE AND UNITY BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND WE CAN ALL
10:51:04 ADMIT THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS MISSING THE LOVE AND PEACE
10:51:10 THAT WE ALL DESERVE WITH ANY NEW ENDEAVOR, YOU ARE
10:51:12 GOING TO HAVE VARIABLES.
10:51:17 SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS, LET'S NOT A ERASE A TOOL THAT
10:51:19 WILL BE USED TO HELP THE VIOLENT CRIME IN OUR
10:51:20 COMMUNITY.
10:51:22 LET'S LOOK AT THE VARIABLES.
10:51:26 CHIEF ALREADY DISCUSSED THEY HAVE CHANGED -- SAT DOWN
10:51:30 WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS SUCH AS MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:51:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND REP DIANE HART.
10:51:37 LET'S ALL COME TO THE TABLE AND IRON OUT THE WRINKLES
10:51:41 TO HAVE A SAFE AND PEACEFUL ENVIRONMENT NOT JUST ME AND
10:51:42 MY FAMILY AND EVERYONE.
10:51:44 AGAIN, WE LOST OUR KIDS.
10:51:47 YOU ARE STANDING UP HERE LOOKING AT VICTIMS.
10:51:48 WE LOST OUR KIDS.
10:51:51 WE NEED HELP IN SOLVING THIS.
10:51:56 WE LOST A FOUR-YEAR-OLD LAST WEEK -- TWO WEEKS AGO.
10:52:00 SO, AGAIN, TRYING TO SAVE LIFE SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.
10:52:01 WE SHOULD COME WITH SOLUTIONS.
10:52:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON FOR YOUR
10:52:04 COMMENTS.
10:52:38 THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
10:52:41 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:52:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME.
10:52:43 >> LORRAINE WRIGHT.
10:52:46 I LIVE IN ROBLES PARK VILLAGE, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU
10:52:48 FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
10:52:50 ONE OF THE RESPECTFUL PLACES.
10:52:54 BACK THEN, BEFORE THIS CRIME, IT WAS TERRIBLE.
10:52:58 I AM SO, SO PLEASED BY THE FROG THAT YOU ARE FINALLY
10:52:59 PUTTING INTO PROCESS.
10:53:03 I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH THIS.
10:53:05 FROM THE FIELDS OF THE FIGHTING AND THE VIOLENCE AND
10:53:10 THE SHOOTINGS, PEOPLE DYING, THE DOG FIGHTS.
10:53:17 SO MANY -- EVEN THE DRAG RACING, THE CLOWN BOYS.
10:53:20 THEY ARE BLOCKING THE STREET AND YOU GOT TO CALL POLICE
10:53:27 AND THANK GOD THEY WERE THERE EACH AND EVERY TIME.
10:53:30 PEOPLE WILL COME OUT THERE SOME TIME TWO, THREE O'CLOCK
10:53:32 IN THE MORNING AND FIGHT.
10:53:34 IT WAS VERY -- IT WAS ALWAYS IN FEAR.
10:53:37 BECAUSE YOU NEVER, EVERY KNEW IF AND WHEN IT WOULD
10:53:38 HAPPEN.
10:53:40 OR WHAT WAS COMING NEXT.
10:53:43 JUST TO STAY UPSET.
10:53:45 ALL THE TIME.
10:53:46 THE FIRECRACKERS.
10:53:50 IT WAS JUST SO -- SO MANY THINGS THAT WERE WRONG.
10:53:54 SO WHEN I WAS ASKED THIS QUESTION.
10:53:57 IS ROBLES PARK BETTER FOR THE CRIME PREVENTION?
10:53:58 I SAY YES.
10:54:01 ON A SCALE OF ONE BEING WORSE AND TEN BEING BEST.
10:54:04 HOW WOULD I SCORE TPD?
10:54:06 I WOULD SAY AN 8.
10:54:10 BECAUSE THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR GROWTH AND
10:54:11 ADVANCEMENT.
10:54:16 NO ONE GETS A 10 BECAUSE SOMEBODY WILL ALWAYS BE
10:54:18 COMMITTING A CRIME.
10:54:19 TPD WILL BE THERE.
10:54:23 I REMEMBER THE TIME WHEN WE HAD WALL-TO-WALL PEOPLE.
10:54:26 YOU DIDN'T KNOW TO THEY WERE OR WHERE THEY WERE COMING
10:54:27 FROM.
10:54:29 WHERE I LIVE IT WAS NOT OKAY.
10:54:30 IT WOULD NEVER BE OKAY.
10:54:35 BUT TODAY, I FEEL A LOT OF -- I FEEL PRIDE ABOUT WHAT I
10:54:39 SEE WITH THE CHILDREN PLAYING IN THE PLAYGROUNDS.
10:54:42 THE PLAYGROUNDS LOOK SO GOOD.
10:54:44 THE SIDEWALKS ARE NOT COVERED WITH PEOPLE AND DOG
10:54:48 MANURE AND THE -- AND THE FOOLISHNESS.
10:54:50 THE TREES ARE CUT BACK.
10:54:54 I THANK GOD FOR TPD.
10:54:58 I DO THANK GOD FOR TPD.
10:55:07 FOR KEEPING ME SAFE AND KEEPING ME HAPPY AND ANYTHING,
10:55:10 I TRULY SUPPORT THIS CRIME-FREE BECAUSE WE MUST HAVE
10:55:10 THE LAW.
10:55:11 THE LAW IS GOOD.
10:55:14 MAN, THIS IS BAD.
10:55:19 WHO IS GOING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
10:55:24 OF NO CRIME-FREE IF WE DON'T GET THESE FELONS WHERE
10:55:25 THEY SHOULD BE.
10:55:28 THE OTHER PART IS ABOUT THE EVICTIONS, I AM OKAY WITH
10:55:29 THAT.
10:55:30 NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
10:55:32 BUT LET'S NOT TEAR UP THE FAMILIES.
10:55:35 WE STILL HAVE TO NURTURES THE ONES THAT ARE LEFT
10:55:36 BEHIND.
10:55:38 FROM THE SHOOTING.
10:55:41 BUT WE STILL HAVE LIVE CHILDREN WHO STILL NEED
10:55:45 EDUCATION AND WE STILL NEED TO BE EDUCATED AND THERE IS
10:55:47 MORE THERE CAN AND SHALL BE DONE.
10:55:49 AND I WOULD LOVE TO HELP.
10:55:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:55:52 >> THANK YOU, HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.
10:56:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU TOO.
10:56:13 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:18 GOOD MORNING, MENTESNOT.
10:56:23 YOU KNOW YOU COULD HATE ON YOUR OWN PEOPLE BY SAYING
10:56:25 YOU SEE THE CONTRADICTIONS.
10:56:28 UNDERSTAND THE CONTRADICTIONS.
10:56:29 IT DIDN'T JUST STARTS.
10:56:31 EXPLOITATION IS WHAT IT IS.
10:56:31 EXPLOITATION.
10:56:33 THE NASTY STINKING POLICE.
10:56:36 THE NASTY STINKING TAMPA POLICE WHO COME UP HERE AND
10:56:38 TALK OF A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM.
10:56:42 WHY DON'T THE PROGRAM BE A MANDATORY PROGRAM?
10:56:43 WHY?
10:56:46 BECAUSE WHITE PEOPLE WOULD NOT ACCEPT IT!
10:56:49 THEY KNOW THE BLACK PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO
10:56:53 SUE THEIR -- AND PUT DOWN AGAINST THE AFRICAN PEOPLE.
10:56:55 DON'T MAKE THE PROGRAM.
10:56:56 DON'T BE DISCRIMINATORY.
10:56:58 MAKE THE PROGRAM INCLUSIVE!
10:57:02 MAKE IT MANDATORY FOR EVERY APARTMENT COMPLEX, EVERY
10:57:08 MF'ING HOUSE IN TAMPA THAT IF SOMEBODY COMMITS A CRIME
10:57:11 THAT THEIR FAMILY GET EVICTED.
10:57:15 WHERE DO THAT SOUTH AFRICAN PEOPLE, WHERE THEY BANISH
10:57:21 AFRICAN PEOPLE AND FOUGHT AGAINST APARTHEID AND BRING
10:57:27 THOSE NASTY PROGRAMS RIGHT HERE IN AMERICA AND TAMPA,
10:57:28 FLORIDA.
10:57:31 NOT ALL ABOUT ORLANDO GUDES.
10:57:34 ORLANDO GUDES ISN'T GOING TO DO ANYTHING.
10:57:37 IT IS ABOUT THE WHITE PEOPLE, OTHER SIX CITY COUNCIL
10:57:40 REPRESENTATIVES THAT HAVE TO STEP UP AND DO SOMETHING
10:57:42 TO SAY THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
10:57:43 THIS IS ILLEGAL.
10:57:44 IT IS UNETHICAL.
10:57:46 IT IS IMMORAL.
10:57:48 IT'S DRACONIAN.
10:57:50 IT IS ALL THOSE THINGS.
10:57:52 MAN, YOU GOT PEOPLE IN HERE TALKING WITH A SECOND AND
10:57:54 THIRD-GRADE EDUCATION.
10:57:56 SMART TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:57:57 THEY HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY.
10:58:00 THEY GOT ARTICLES IN THE NEWSPAPERS ABOUT THEM SPENDING
10:58:03 MONEY AT STRIP CLUBS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
10:58:08 TAXPAYER MONIES, THE A-HOLES HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY.
10:58:10 NOT INVOLVED IN EVICTING PEOPLE AND ARRESTING PEOPLE,
10:58:13 CRIME ALL OVER THE MFING WORLD.
10:58:15 CRIME ALL OVER THE WORLD.
10:58:17 WHITE PEOPLE COMMIT CRIME.
10:58:19 WHITE PEOPLE COMMIT CRIME.
10:58:24 WHY AREN'T WHITE PEOPLE EFFECTED BY BEING EVICTED FROM
10:58:29 WHERE THEY RESIDE IF THEIR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS -- MAN,
10:58:31 Y'ALL BLACK PEOPLE NEED TO STAND OUT AND YOU NEED TO BE
10:58:33 AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON.
10:58:36 THE PROBLEM AIN'T THE CONDITIONS, THE IMMEDIATE
10:58:36 CONDITIONS.
10:58:43 THE PROBLEM STEMS FROM 621 YEARS -- 621 YEARS OF
10:58:44 OPPRESSION.
10:58:46 61 YEARS OF SLAVERY.
10:58:50 AND REPARATIONS OF 621 MILLION DOLLARS -- TRILLION
10:58:54 DOLLARS THAT THE WHITE FOLKS OWE US IN REPARATIONS.
10:58:56 THERE IS A LACK OF RESOURCES.
10:58:58 LACK OF RESOURCES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:58:59 THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
10:59:00 THE POLICE GOT TOO MUCH MONEY.
10:59:03 THE POLICE GOT YOUR MONEY.
10:59:06 LADIES TALKING OF ROBLES PARK AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE
10:59:08 AND THIS AND THAT.
10:59:10 I AM FROM ROBLES PARK.
10:59:12 I AM FROM ROBLES PARK.
10:59:13 WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
10:59:16 THEY ARE ABOUT TO TEAR DOWN ROBLES PARK AND BLACK
10:59:19 PEOPLE CAN'T GO BACK IN THERE AFTER THEY TEAR IT DOWN.
10:59:20 TALK ABOUT THAT.
10:59:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR COMMENT.
10:59:41 THANK YOU.
10:59:42 >> STATE YOUR NAME FOR US.
10:59:45 >> MY NAME IS MICHELLE CALDWELL.
10:59:48 I AM PROPERTY MANAGER AT ONE OF THE COMMUNITIES.
10:59:51 I HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR THE CRIME-FREE PROGRAM FOR A
10:59:53 WHILE NOW, AND I HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THE DIFFERENCES
10:59:56 THAT IT DOES AS A PROPERTY MANAGER, TO THE COMMUNITY,
10:59:58 FOR THE MORALE.
11:00:00 FOR THE APPLICANTS WALKING INTO THE COMMUNITIES.
11:00:06 IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT IT REPRESENTS BUT WHAT IT
11:00:07 DOES IN THE BACKGROUND WORK.
11:00:10 THEY HOLD US RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE
11:00:13 SAID, MAKING THE COMMUNITY A BETTER LOOK.
11:00:15 THE WAY THE CRIME HAS DEDUCTED FROM THE MOMENT I
11:00:17 STARTED WORKING THERE.
11:00:21 TO THE POINT THAT APPLICANTS ARE FLOODING IN BECAUSE WE
11:00:25 ARE IS HE CURLING THEM, GIVING THEM A BETTER HOME, EVEN
11:00:27 THOUGH IT IS AN AFFORDABLE HOME.
11:00:30 THE FACT THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO LIVE THERE WITH PEACE,
11:00:32 CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO PLAY OUTSIDE.
11:00:35 THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT HAVE COME GOOD FROM THIS.
11:00:39 AND AS FAR AS THE EVICTIONS, IT IS FAR FROM TRUE THAT
11:00:41 IS WHAT HAPPENS.
11:00:45 I HAVE SEEN OFFICERS COME IN AND HELP HAND IN HAND WITH
11:00:48 MINORS WHO HAVE DONE THINGS AND SPEAK TO THEM AND TRY
11:00:52 TO LEAD THEM ON A BETTER PATH VERSUS DIRECTLY GOING TO
11:00:55 AN EVICTION BECAUSE OF A CRIME.
11:00:57 EVICTIONS DON'T HAPPEN THAT WAY UNFORTUNATELY.
11:01:00 PROPERTY MANAGERS ARE NOT ABLE TO EVICT SOMEONE DUE TO
11:01:01 A CRIME.
11:01:03 THERE ARE A LOT OF STEPS THAT COME INTO THAT SITUATION
11:01:06 WHERE WE NEED TO DO OUR JOB CORRECTLY.
11:01:09 AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE CRIME-FREE IS JUST A
11:01:10 RESOURCE.
11:01:12 JUST LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ANYONE ELSE WHO HELPS
11:01:12 US.
11:01:15 IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE USE TO BE ABLE TO GET
11:01:17 PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES.
11:01:20 AND I DO WANT TO REPRESENT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW
11:01:22 THE PROGRAM CORRECTLY.
11:01:24 NOT ONLY DOES IT MAKE THE COMMUNITY A BETTER LOOK.
11:01:26 BUT IT MAKES THE COMMUNITY PEACEFUL.
11:01:30 I HAVE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS WHO ARE
11:01:31 GRATEFUL FOR THE POLICE.
11:01:34 FOR THE RESOURCES THAT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN PROVIDED TO
11:01:36 THEM IN THESE HOMES BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE
11:01:38 ELSE TO GO BECAUSE THESE ARE THE HOMES THAT THEY CAN
11:01:39 AFFORD.
11:01:42 SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IF THIS GOES AWAY, IT IS
11:01:45 SOMETHING THAT I FEEL LIKE WOULD HURT US BECAUSE WE NO
11:01:48 LONGER HAVE SOMETHING TO FALL BACK ON, FOR HELP.
11:01:51 SO IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD GO AWAY.
11:01:52 THANK YOU.
11:01:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:01:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUICK QUESTION.
11:02:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DIDN'T LET MR. CITRO --
11:02:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO BUT THE
11:02:05 PERSON WALKED OUT.
11:02:09 I WAS WONDERING PART OF A PRIVATE OR PUBLIC.
11:02:11 >> I AM ON AFFORDABLE HOME TAX CREDIT COMMUNITY.
11:02:14 I AM DEAD CENTER TO ALL OF THESE DISTRICTS THAT ARE
11:02:14 INVOLVED.
11:02:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:02:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:02:33 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
11:02:34 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:02:39 >> YVETTE LEWIS, OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY NAACP.
11:02:44 THE NAACP WANTS SAFE COMMUNITIES.
11:02:52 EARLIER, I HEARD INTERIM CHIEF RUBEN DELGADO SAY DON'T
11:02:53 TAKE THE PROGRAM AWAY.
11:02:54 WE MADE A FEW MISTAKES.
11:02:55 WOW.
11:02:59 BUT YOU YET YOU PUT WHOLE FAMILIES OUT BECAUSE ONE
11:03:01 PERSON MADE A MISTAKE.
11:03:04 SO THAT WHOLE FAMILY GETS PUNISHED, OKAY.
11:03:05 LET'S HOLD THAT.
11:03:09 THIS IS A CLEAR VIOLATION OF PEOPLE'S CIVIL RIGHTS,
11:03:12 BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT EVEN AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
11:03:14 DUE PROCESS.
11:03:18 THIS PROGRAM ALLOWS TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TO CONTINUE
11:03:22 TO OVERPOLICE AND OVERSTEP THEIR AUTHORITY WHEN IT
11:03:25 COMES TO POOR PEOPLE AND THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN
11:03:29 COMMUNITY.
11:03:33 THE POLICE SAY -- THE POLICE WILL SAY WE DIDN'T -- WE
11:03:36 DON'T TEACH -- I MEAN, WE DON'T TELL THEM TO EVICT THE
11:03:37 PEOPLE.
11:03:42 BUT YET YOU TRAIN THEM AND YOU TEACH THEM HOW TO EVICT
11:03:44 THE PEOPLE.
11:03:47 YOU HAVE A TRAINING VIDEO THAT TEACHES THEM WHAT TO SAY
11:03:51 AND HOW TO SAY IT IN ORDER TO GET THESE PEOPLE OUT.
11:03:59 AGAIN, THE NAACP WANT SAFE COMMUNITIES.
11:04:02 I WOULD PRAISE THE POLICE TOO IF I WAS SOME OF THESE
11:04:05 PEOPLE THAT WERE BROUGHT HERE TODAY.
11:04:06 OKAY.
11:04:07 BECAUSE I NEEDED A RIDE.
11:04:09 NOBODY CALLED ME.
11:04:11 TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
11:04:15 I AM ASKING THAT YOU STOP THIS PROGRAM UNTIL WE ARE
11:04:17 ASSURED THAT THE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS ARE NOT BEING
11:04:19 VIOLATED.
11:04:23 AGAIN, THE NAACP WANTS SAFE COMMUNITIES.
11:04:27 THIS IS ANOTHER BIKING WHILE BLACK.
11:04:29 BUT LET'S CALL IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
11:04:33 AN ACE IS AN ACE AND A SPADE IS SPADE.
11:04:37 WE ARE RENTING WHILE BLACK IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:05:02 THANK YOU.
11:05:05 >> WOW, THAT WAS A TOUGH ONE TO COME AFTER THAT
11:05:09 EVERYONE. MY NAME IS JEANETTE AND HERE TO REPRESENT NOT
11:05:11 ONLY MANAGERS BUT I AM A RESIDENT.
11:05:15 I HAVE BEEN A PROPERTY MANAGER FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
11:05:19 MY MAIN ROLE AND GOAL IS ALWAYS TO PROVIDE A SAFE,
11:05:21 CLEAN ENVIRONMENT FOR FAMILIES AND THEIR GUESTS.
11:05:23 AND ALSO FOR MY STAFF.
11:05:25 I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR CHANGE DUE TO POLITICAL
11:05:33 REASONS, BUT WE ARE TAKING A CHANCE ON SAFETY.
11:05:35 AND I AM GOING TO TALK ON BOTH SIDES AGAIN.
11:05:38 I AM NOT A HOMEOWNER, I AM ALSO A RENTER.
11:05:40 SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
11:05:43 IT IS NOT FAIR -- YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE SAYING FOR WHOLE
11:05:46 FAMILIES ARE BEING EVICTED.
11:05:48 THERE ARE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
11:05:49 THERE ARE LEASES.
11:05:50 THERE ARE LEASE VIOLATIONS.
11:05:54 ME PERSONALLY, I HAVE NEVER EVICTED ANYONE JUST BECAUSE
11:05:56 AN OFFICER SAID YOU SHOULD EVICT THEM.
11:05:59 LEASE VIOLATIONS.
11:06:03 LEASES ARE TERMINATED OR FAMILIES ARE EVICTED BASED ON
11:06:04 LEASE VIOLATIONS.
11:06:07 IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF WHATEVER CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
11:06:10 IT IS BASED ON THE VIOLATIONS OF THEIR LEASE.
11:06:14 IT IS CLEAR, BLACK AND WHITE, YOU CAN NOT DO X, Y AND Z
11:06:16 WHILE YOU ARE LIVING HERE.
11:06:19 THOUGH I UNDERSTAND THAT EVICTING ONE PERSON OUT OF A
11:06:23 HOUSE HOLD -- IT AFFECTS THE WHOLE HOUSE HOLD, AND,
11:06:25 YES, THAT MAYBE NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON.
11:06:29 MAYBE IT IS NOT FAIR, BUT LET'S BE REALISTIC, IF I SAY
11:06:32 THAT YOUR LITTLE COUSIN IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN YOUR
11:06:34 HOUSE, CHANCES ARE THE FAMILY IS GOING TO PROTECT THE
11:06:37 LITTLE COUSIN AND SAY THEY ARE NOT THERE.
11:06:38 THEY ARE NOT THERE.
11:06:40 NOW THE REST OF MY COMMUNITY IS IN DANGER BECAUSE THIS
11:06:43 ONE FAMILY IS PROTECTING THE ONE PERSON THAT WE DON'T
11:06:45 WANT ON THE PROPERTY.
11:06:48 I DO BELIEVE IN SECOND CHANCES.
11:06:50 I BELIEVE IN SECOND CHANCES.
11:06:52 BUT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW RULES AND REGULATIONS.
11:06:56 BOTTOM LINE IS THEY ARE IN THERE FOR A REASON.
11:07:00 AGAIN, I'VE ALWAYS USED THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE THE
11:07:06 POLICE NOT TO EVICT, BUT LIKE I SAID, JUST TO HELP
11:07:11 DETERMINE WHETHER IT IS GROUNDS FOR EVICTION OR NOT,
11:07:15 BUT, AGAIN, THE NATURE OF THE CRIME OR WAY IT WAS AT,
11:07:18 IT IS NOT THE REASON FOR EVICTION.
11:07:19 IT IS LEASE VIOLATIONS.
11:07:21 LEASE VIOLATIONS.
11:07:24 PRETTY MUCH ALL THAT I HAVE TO SAY.
11:07:25 THE PROGRAM WORKS.
11:07:26 IT HAS WORKED FOR ME.
11:07:28 I ACTUALLY COME FROM NEW YORK.
11:07:29 THEY HAD IT OUT THERE.
11:07:31 IT WORKED OUT THERE.
11:07:35 SO, YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP IT ON AND MAINTAIN
11:07:35 IT.
11:07:37 MAYBE NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED.
11:07:40 MAYBE NOT THE WHOLE FAMILY NEEDS TO BE EVICTED.
11:07:43 BUT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVERYONE NEEDS TO
11:07:44 FOLLOW RULES AND REGULATIONS.
11:07:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:08:09 THANK YOU.
11:08:09 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:08:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING.
11:08:13 STATE YOUR NAME FOR US, PLEASE.
11:08:16 >> MY NAME IS ROBIN LOCKET.
11:08:20 AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE CRIME PREVENTION BILL OR
11:08:22 CRIME PREVENTION ADDENDUM.
11:08:24 I HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS.
11:08:27 BUT NOT ENOUGH TIME.
11:08:33 MY CONCERNS ARE THAT IN REGARDS TO THIS BILL, THIS
11:08:37 ADDENDUM, WHERE IS THE TRANSPARENCY?
11:08:40 HOW WAS IT CREATED?
11:08:45 WHO IS IT EFFECTING AND WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES.
11:08:47 WHAT IS THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROGRAM?
11:08:51 WHAT IS THE SUCCESS OF IT?
11:08:55 JUST LISTENING TO THE DIFFERENT TENANTS, PEOPLE WHO
11:08:59 HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE ME, IT IS CLEAR TO ME THAT IN
11:09:04 REGARDS TO THE TRANSPARENCY OR THE EDUCATION AROUND IT,
11:09:07 A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH IT.
11:09:10 YOU HAVE TENANTS THAT ARE CONCERN OF THE SAFETY OF
11:09:11 THEIR PROPERTIES OR WHERE THEY LIVE.
11:09:17 WHICH IS RIGHTFULLY SO, BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS
11:09:18 ABOUT.
11:09:22 THIS IS ABOUT LETTERS BEING SENT TO AN APARTMENT
11:09:27 COMPLEX THAT IS INVOLVED WITH THIS PROGRAM.
11:09:31 2019 -- I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE VERBIAGE OF EVICTION WAS
11:09:36 TAKEN OUT, BUT PRIOR TO THE CHANGES AND PEOPLE BEING
11:09:41 EVICTED, THE CULTURE WAS ALREADY CREATED.
11:09:44 SO WHETHER THEY CHANGED THE VERBIAGE ON IT.
11:09:46 THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE ALREADY INVOLVED IN THE -- IN THE
11:09:50 PROGRAM, THEY ALREADY HAVE THE CULTURE IN THEIR MIND
11:09:53 THAT THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE EVICTED.
11:09:56 OUR ORGANIZE HAS BEEN WORKING ON EVICTIONS FOR A YEAR
11:09:57 AND A HALF NOW.
11:10:01 IT DOESN'T TAKE ANYTHING FOR A LANDLORD -- LANDLORDS
11:10:04 HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF RIGHTS AND TENANTS DON'T.
11:10:08 IT DOESN'T TAKE A WHOLE LOT FOR A LANDLORD TO EVICT
11:10:12 SOMEBODY, WHETHER THEY WANT TO GO DOWNTOWN AND DO IT OR
11:10:15 THEY GO AND TELL A TENANT THEY ARE GOING TO GET
11:10:17 EVICTED.
11:10:20 NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN WITH OUR COMMUNION, IF THERE IS
11:10:22 AN EVICTION, THEY GET UP AND LEAVE.
11:10:25 THEY DON'T GO THROUGH A DUE PROCESS.
11:10:28 THEY DON'T SIT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE AND
11:10:31 SO FORTH.
11:10:36 I HAVE ISSUES WITH THE CHIEF STATING -- THE PROGRAM
11:10:38 FOCUSED ON CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR.
11:10:41 THIS IS ALL THE PROGRAM FOCUSES ON.
11:10:46 CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR WOULD BE THAT -- THAT PERSON IS IN
11:10:46 JAIL.
11:10:49 THAT FAMILY SHOULD NOT BE EVICTED.
11:10:55 IF THERE IS NO CHANGES TO THIS OR THE ESTABLISHMENT IS
11:10:58 NOT -- DOES NOT WANT TO DO ANY CHANGES TO THIS, I THINK
11:11:02 THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD PUT A MOTION OUT FOR THIS
11:11:04 PROGRAM TO BE DEFUNDED.
11:11:07 AND DEFUND IT.
11:11:10 THE MONEY THAT THIS PROGRAM IS TAKING UP COULD BE FOR
11:11:13 THE FAMILY, THAT MOTHER THAT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT HER
11:11:16 SON OR HER DAUGHTER AND COULDN'T GET HELP BECAUSE THEY
11:11:18 DIDN'T HAVE AN -- DIDN'T HAVE --
11:11:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
11:11:39 COMMENTS, THANK YOU.
11:11:41 >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
11:11:43 WE HAVE SEEN ALL THIS BEFORE.
11:11:46 THIS IS NOTHING BRAND-NEW.
11:11:49 WE HAVE HAD -- WE HAVE HAD WEED AND SEED PROGRAM THAT
11:11:53 WAS SPECIFICALLY ATTACHED TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY WHERE
11:11:59 THE WORST OF THE WORST WAS PLUCKED OUT AND GIVEN
11:12:02 EXTENSIVE PRISON TIME BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO REVAMP
11:12:04 OUR COMMUNITIES.
11:12:09 BUT THE SAME CRIES AND THE TAME TEARS STILL EXIST IN
11:12:09 OUR COMMUNITY.
11:12:12 WE HAVE ONE STRIKE AND YOU ARE OUT, WHERE PEOPLE,
11:12:18 AGAIN, WAS NOT GIVING DUE PROCESS AND THEN ON TOP OF
11:12:22 THAT, WE HAD A NUMBER OF PUBLIC HOUSING HAS BEEN
11:12:28 DEMOLISHED FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF GENTRIFYING THOSE
11:12:31 NEIGHBORHOODS BUT NO REAL MONEY COMING TO SOLVING THE
11:12:32 PROBLEMS.
11:12:38 SO THE MERE MENTION OF DRUGS BEING IN AND AROUND
11:12:42 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE, I WILL RECALL HEARING ABOUT A COUPLE
11:12:46 OF MONTHS AGO, THAT CONVERSATION WAS IMMEDIATELY SHUT
11:12:47 DOWN.
11:12:50 BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT THAT TYPE OF STICK MA
11:12:55 ESTABLISHED OR CONNECTED TO -- STIGMA ESTABLISHED OR
11:12:58 CONNECTED TO VARIOUS APARTMENT COMPLEXES INSIDE OF THIS
11:12:59 CITY.
11:13:02 BUT OUT OF ALL OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES OUTS OF THE
11:13:04 CITY OF TAMPA.
11:13:08 ONLY 42 PREDOMINANTLY BLACK COMMUNITIES ARE ATTACHED TO
11:13:09 THIS PROGRAM.
11:13:12 SO THE QUESTION ALWAYS IS IN MY MIND, WHERE DO POOR
11:13:14 WHITE FAMILIES LIVE?
11:13:18 AND HOW ARE THERE ISSUES RESOLVED.
11:13:21 SO WE MESSED IS UP WHAT I HEAR THE POLICE SAYING THIS
11:13:22 MORNING.
11:13:26 BUT I DON'T HEAR THE CORRECTIVE ACTION THAT OCCURRED TO
11:13:31 NOW FAMILIES WHO ARE LIVING INSIDE OF HOTELS PAYING
11:13:35 ALMOST $300, $400 A WEEK TRYING TO GET NEEDED
11:13:36 ASSISTANCE.
11:13:39 NOBODY SEEMS TO BE CARING ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE
11:13:41 DOWNWARD SPIRAL EFFECT.
11:13:46 YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO GO OUT TO ONE APARTMENT COMPLEX IN
11:13:50 THIS CITY WITH ANY CITY AUTHORITY TO SHUT THEM DOWN
11:13:55 WHEN WE ARE TALKING OF SEWAGE RUNNING RAMPANT DOWN THE
11:13:59 STREET, BAD PLUMBING, BALANCED MOLD.
11:14:03 YOU GOT LOBBYISTS IN TALLAHASSEE THAT PREVENT YOU FROM
11:14:04 DOING THAT.
11:14:07 BUT YOU COME ALONG WITH THESE TYPE OF PROGRAMS, TALKING
11:14:10 OF GIVING PEOPLE BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE.
11:14:13 A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE WOULD START WITH PEOPLE BEING
11:14:18 ABLE TO LIVE IN DIGNITY, AND THAT IS WHAT YOU NEVER
11:14:20 WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON.
11:14:23 YES, PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE A CRIME-FREE COMMUNITY.
11:14:26 BUT A CRIME-FREE COMMUNITY WILL BE FIRST RESTORING
11:14:29 DIGNITY INTO HOUSING INSTEAD OF ALWAYS HAVING PUNITIVE
11:14:33 PUNISHMENT ON BLACK PEOPLE.
11:14:35 I CALL FOR THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO COME IN HERE AND
11:14:39 DO A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION.
11:14:45 BECAUSE UNCAPABLE AND UNWILLING TO TAKE CARE OF THE
11:14:47 NEEDS OF BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
11:14:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:15:01 >> THANK YOU.
11:15:25 STATE YOUR NAME FOR US, SIR.
11:15:32 >> HI, I AM SOVEREIGN KING JOHNNY BERNARD BOOTH.
11:15:35 I WANT TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING ABOUT ALL OF THIS THAT IS
11:15:36 GOING ON.
11:15:39 BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED WHAT IS GOING ON.
11:15:41 LOOK, THESE PROJECTS IN THE HOODS ARE BEING TORN DOWN
11:15:43 TO GET BETTER HOUSING.
11:15:45 YOU ARE SITTING IN HOTELS SO THEY CAN MOVE YOU INTO
11:15:47 BETTER HOUSING.
11:15:50 I DON'T COMPREHEND WHY YOU WANT TO STILL STAY VIOLENT
11:15:53 AND KEEP THE VIOLENCE GOING ON.
11:15:56 AND WHY OF THE BROWN-SKINNED AND BLACK PEOPLE, WHY ARE
11:15:58 YOU CONTINUING WITH THE HEAT WHEN I SAY CUT THE HATE
11:15:59 OUT.
11:16:01 NOT A WHITE AND BLACK THING ANYMORE.
11:16:05 AND YOU DON'T WANT TO COMPREHEND WHAT IS GOING ON WITH
11:16:08 THE POLICE OR THE SHERIFFS OR ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT NOW.
11:16:12 COMPREHEND.
11:16:13 IN PLACE SINCE 2012.
11:16:15 WE ARE TRYING TO GET YOU BETTER HOUSING.
11:16:20 I COMPREHEND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE
11:16:23 TO GET YOU THE TRUE MONEY OUT THERE.
11:16:25 PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE.
11:16:29 YOU CAN'T KEEP GETTING MAD AT THE SHERIFF AND GETTING
11:16:32 RAD AT THE PEOPLE PROTECTING YOU AND OTHER PERSON,
11:16:35 TRYING TO HELP YOU HAVE A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE.
11:16:38 YES, YOU WANT TO STAY IN THE HOOD AND STAY IN THE
11:16:40 GHETTOS.
11:16:43 DON'T YOU KNOW THAT COMES FROM HITLER TIMES.
11:16:47 WHITE PEOPLE SITTING THE HOODS IN THE GHETTOS THAT
11:16:47 TIME.
11:16:51 AND IN ORDER FOR THEM TO GET DONE CORRECTLY, YES, WE
11:16:53 WILL NEED FOR THING TO GET CLEARED OUT.
11:16:55 THEY DIDN'T MEAN THE WHOLE FAMILIES.
11:16:59 THEY MEANT FOR THIS TO BE DONE ON THE INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
11:17:06 THE ONE COMMITTING OF HEINOUS MISCREANT.
11:17:11 THE CRIMINALIZATION LIST OF THE DRUGS COMING FROM THE
11:17:14 PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES AND TRUE CRIME.
11:17:15 I DON'T WANT NO MURDERER.
11:17:17 I DON'T WANT NO RAPE.
11:17:20 I DON'T WANT NO CHILD ORGANIZATION.
11:17:22 I DON'T WANT NO PREDATORS FLOATING AROUND.
11:17:24 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
11:17:25 THANK YOU.
11:17:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:17:52 HOW MANY MORE SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE DOWN THERE?
11:17:55 YES, MA'AM, STATE YOUR NAME.
11:17:59 >> CHARNELLE BAKER.
11:18:00 OFFICER BAKER.
11:18:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN SPEAK.
11:18:06 >> I WANT TO SAY FIRST OF ALL, IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE
11:18:06 HERE.
11:18:10 HOWEVER, I HAVE LISTEN TO EVERYBODY SPEAK AND I MUST
11:18:12 SAY THIS IS DISHEARTENING FOR ME.
11:18:14 I GREW UP IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA.
11:18:18 AND MERCY DRIVE APARTMENTS WHERE, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN,
11:18:22 THAT WAS THE FIRST CRIME-FREE PROGRAM THAT WAS ADOPTED.
11:18:26 I GREW UP THERE IN COMPLETE VIOLENCE.
11:18:30 I CAN SAY THAT MY CHILDHOOD WAS CUT SHORT BECAUSE I
11:18:33 WASN'T ALLOWED TO PLAY OUTSIDE BECAUSE OF THE VIOLENCE,
11:18:38 THE GANG BANGING, THE DRUGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
11:18:42 I CAN REMEMBER A TIME WHEN I WAS SLEEPING, AND WE HEARD
11:18:44 GUNSHOTS AND I HAD TO SLEEP ON THE FLOOR.
11:18:47 HONESTLY NO CHILD SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT.
11:18:51 IT WAS A CRIME-FREE PROGRAM THAT THEY IMPLEMENTED THAT
11:18:54 THEY BROUGHT IN THAT MADE DIFFERENCE IN MY LIFE, TO BE
11:18:56 ABLE TO SIT AND TALK TO OFFICERS.
11:18:58 TO WATCH OFFICERS CLEAN UP THE STREET.
11:19:01 IT IS THE REASON WHY I WEAR IN UNIFORM PROUD.
11:19:04 AND WITH NO COMPLAINTS.
11:19:10 THIS PROGRAM, COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU SPOKE OF PASSION
11:19:10 EARLIER.
11:19:12 THIS PROGRAM IS MY PASSION.
11:19:14 EVEN THE RESIDENTS CAN SPEAK ON THAT.
11:19:17 I HEAR THEM TALKING ABOUT POOR PEOPLE AND
11:19:19 AFRICAN-AMERICAN.
11:19:20 I AM BOTH.
11:19:21 AND I AM STANDING HERE TODAY.
11:19:24 SO THE CRIME-FREE PROGRAM IS NEEDED.
11:19:26 DON'T TAKE AWAY THE PROGRAM.
11:19:27 IT IS MY PASSION.
11:19:29 THANK YOU.
11:19:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, OFFICER, FOR YOUR SERVICE.
11:19:40 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
11:19:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY MORE SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE FROM THE
11:19:45 PUBLIC?
11:19:48 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, CAN WE ASK WHO A THAT WAS,
11:19:50 SOMEBODY THAT WALKED OUT BEHIND THE CAMERA AND CAME OUT
11:19:54 AGAIN -- CAN WE FIND OUT WHO THAT WAS?
11:19:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PROBABLY SOMEBODY FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
11:20:00 PIO -- PHOTOGRAPHER --
11:20:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:20:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:20:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SPOKE WITH MISS LUCAS AND TWO
11:20:10 PEOPLE SPECIFICALLY ON THIS ITEM VIRTUALLY.
11:20:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY MORE SPEAKERS DOWNSTAIRS ON THE
11:20:17 SECOND FLOOR, SIR?
11:20:21 >> NO MORE SPEAKERS FOR THIS ADDENDUM ITEM.
11:20:23 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TAKING
11:20:26 PICTURES OF PEOPLE ON THEIR SIDE AND NOT EVERYBODY
11:20:26 ELSE.
11:20:31 IS THAT WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW?
11:20:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OPERATOR OF THE MONTH.
11:20:34 >> I DON'T AGREE WITH THE CITY HAVING PROPAGANDA
11:20:37 CAMPAIGNS.
11:20:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DULY NOTED, SIR.
11:20:41 DULY NOTED.
11:20:42 WE WILL GO TO THE PHONES.
11:20:43 >> GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:20:46 FIRST SPEAKER WE HAVE A JUSTIN MCCARROLL.
11:20:49 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:20:51 THANK YOU.
11:20:53 >> HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?
11:20:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
11:20:55 THANK YOU.
11:20:58 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF
11:20:59 PUBLIC.
11:21:00 JUSTIN MCCARROLL.
11:21:05 I AM A STUDENT ADVOCATE WITH THE NYU CIVIL RIGHTS
11:21:08 CLINIC AND SPEAKING TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE CLINIC.
11:21:12 TO BEGIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I AM SYMPATHETIC WHAT HAS
11:21:15 BEEN SAID TO THE RESIDENTS ABOUT THE NEED FOR SAFETY,
11:21:19 BUT REMOVAL OF THIS PROGRAM DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE
11:21:23 POLICE CAN NO LONGER BE PRESENT IN THOSE COMMUNITY.
11:21:26 THE CRIME-FREE HOUSING PROGRAM HAS NOT BEEN USED AS A
11:21:30 TOOL FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT RATHER AS A TOOL FOR
11:21:33 EVICTING BLACK RESIDENTS FROM THEIR HOMES.
11:21:38 SINCE MAYOR CASTOR INITIATED IT AS THE CITY CHIEF OF
11:21:43 POLICE IN 2013, IT WAS USED TO PUSH MARGINALIZED
11:21:46 INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR FAMILIES OUT OF THEIR HOMES AND
11:21:47 COMMUNITIES.
11:21:51 THE DISCRIMINATORY IMPACT OF THIS PROGRAM IS CLEAR,
11:21:53 CRYSTAL CLEAR.
11:21:56 90% OF THE PEOPLE FLAGGED BY THIS PROGRAM HAVE BEEN
11:21:57 BLACK TENANTS.
11:22:01 THIS IS A STATISTIC SO STAGGERING THAT I FIND IT
11:22:04 SURPRISING OUR CALLS FOR A REMEDY HAVE BEEN MET WITH
11:22:07 ANY RESISTANCE AT ALL.
11:22:10 MAYOR CASTOR RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THAT REFORM WILL BE
11:22:14 MADE TO THE CRIME-FREE HOUSING PROGRAM BUT MAKING MINOR
11:22:20 ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PROGRAM'S ADMISSION DOES NOTHING OF
11:22:23 THE HARM BECAUSE OF THIS PROGRAM THAT WILL UNDOUBTEDLY
11:22:24 CONTINUE TO OCCUR.
11:22:26 THE DAMAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.
11:22:29 POLICE CONDUCTED TRAINING FOR LANDLORDS AND PROPERTY
11:22:33 OWNERS ACTIVELY ENCOURAGING THEM TO ADOPT THE VERY
11:22:39 CRIME CRIME LEASE ADDENDUMS THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY
11:22:42 POLICE SINCE ADMITTED HAD THESE WERE WRONG.
11:22:45 THESE PRELIMINARY LEASE RESTRICTIONS ARE IN PLACE TODAY
11:22:49 AND BEING USED AGAINST BLACK TENANTS AND NOT ADDRESSED
11:22:50 BY TAMPA.
11:22:52 CITY COUNCIL CANNOT REFER TO THE TAMPA BAY POLICE
11:22:54 DEPARTMENT IN THIS MATTER.
11:22:56 THE PROGRAM SHOULD BE ELIMINATED BUT EVEN STRIKING THE
11:22:59 PROGRAM IN ITS ENTIRETY DOES LITTLE TO REMEDY THE
11:23:06 ONGOING HARM BECAUSE THESE DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES
11:23:09 WERE EMBEDDED IN THE TAMPA BAY RENTAL OFFICE AND
11:23:14 WITHOUT THE ASSISTANCE OF EXPECT BAY POLICE FOR NOT TO
11:23:18 RECTIFY THE DAMAGE LV ALREADY DONE DOES NOTHING MORE
11:23:21 THAN SYMBOLIC ACTION.
11:23:26 BLACK RENTERS HAVE OVERCOME DISCRIMINATORY POLICIES,
11:23:29 THIS IS HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF.
11:23:33 THE MAYOR AND TAMPA HAD BAY POLICE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT
11:23:39 THE CRIME-FREE PROGRAM MADE MISTAKES IN THE PAST BUT
11:23:41 FULLY HAVE NOT INDICATED THE HARM.
11:23:45 TO REMEDY THE HARM IS VERY DIFFERENT THING.
11:23:48 GIVEN THE CONVERSATION OF RACE IN THIS COUNTRY AND
11:23:51 TAMPA'S HISTORY AND DEALING WITH RACIAL DISCRIMINATION
11:23:54 PARTICULARLY WITH HOUSING DISCRIMINATION, A REAL
11:23:56 OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO FINALLY DO RIGHT
11:23:58 BY ITS BLACK RESIDENTS.
11:23:59 THANK YOU.
11:24:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:24:11 >> NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. ORTIZ IS NO LONGER LOGGED ON SO
11:24:16 THIS WILL CONCLUDE COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
11:24:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA.
11:24:22 >>LUIS VIERA: ARE WE HAVING QUESTIONS, STATEMENTS.
11:24:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOUR TIME.
11:24:24 FIVE MINUTES.
11:24:26 ONLY TWO ROUNDS OF THE APPLE AND BRING IT FOR A
11:24:27 LANDING.
11:24:28 >>LUIS VIERA: A LANDING.
11:24:30 I APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
11:24:32 SO MUCH TO SAY AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:24:36 A LOT OF FOLKS SPOKE WITH PASSION ON DIFFERENT
11:24:36 PERSPECTIVES.
11:24:41 I WANT TO SAY FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THESE EFFECTED
11:24:45 COMMUNITIES, THAT THE ISSUE WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE, IN
11:24:48 MY OPINION, ARE NOT ON ISSUES LIKE DEFUNDING THE POLICE
11:24:49 OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
11:24:53 I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A STRONG PROPONENT OF THAT IDEA AND
11:24:59 WHATNOT FOR ME, THIS IS A MUCH MORE NARROWLY TAILORED
11:25:05 ISSUE SINCE I READ THE TAMPA BAY TIMES PROGRAM, I HAD
11:25:10 QUESTIONS AND CHIEF DELGADO WHO IS A FINE GENTLEMAN AND
11:25:15 MANY OTHERS FOR SPEAKING WITH ME ON IT AND I SOUGHT OUT
11:25:18 MEMBERS OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND ETC.
11:25:21 I COME DOWN TO THE CONCLUSION YOU LOOK AT THE PROGRAM
11:25:22 WHERE IT IS NOW.
11:25:24 IN MY OPINION AND I WILL DISCUSS NEEDS A LOT MORE
11:25:27 SCRUTINY, OVERSIGHT, AND A LEVEL OF CONTINUED
11:25:32 SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE IN OPINION.
11:25:36 YOU LOOK AT THE LAST EIGHT YEARS AND YOU LOOK AT WHERE
11:25:42 THE PROGRAM IS, MAKES THAT SCRUTINY.
11:25:45 AND PULL OTHERWISE YOU LOOK AT THE LIFE OF THE PROGRAM
11:25:48 FOR THE LAST SIX OR SEVEN YEARS, IT HAS CERTAINLY
11:25:51 HELPED A LOT OF FOLKS AND THERE ARE THINGS HERE THAT WE
11:25:58 HEARD ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND SERVED FOR THE HUNDREDS
11:26:04 OR SO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE AFFECTED NEGATIVELY AND THE
11:26:07 SEVERAL DOZEN FOLKS AFFECTED NEGATIVELY THAT WERE
11:26:08 DISMISSED.
11:26:09 THE COUPLE OF FOLKS.
11:26:15 TWO THAT WERE AFFECTED WITH DRIVING INSPECTIONS AND
11:26:17 INFRACTIONS.
11:26:22 WORSENING SOCIAL INEQUALITIES AND POLICE OFFICERS IN A
11:26:25 SYSTEM THAT THEY ARE PLAYING A ROLE THAT GOES CONTRARY.
11:26:28 THEY ARE PLAYING PART IN A ROLE OF A LONG PROCESS WHERE
11:26:32 I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD NECESSARILY BE INVOLVED IN.
11:26:36 IN AN ERA WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THINGS ABOUT -- LIKE
11:26:40 EQUALITY, SOCIAL INJUSTICE, MASS INCARCERATION AND ETC.
11:26:44 , A PROGRAM LIKE THIS IS VERY, VERY RELEVANT TO TALK
11:26:45 ABOUT.
11:26:47 DO WE NEED TO GO AFTER CRIME?
11:26:47 ABSOLUTELY.
11:26:48 ABSOLUTELY.
11:26:50 IN HEARING A LOT OF THE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY TALK
11:26:53 TODAY, WE NEED TO ENGAGE ON THAT.
11:26:57 BY LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE TALK OF ANTI-CRIME PROGRAMS,
11:27:00 THINGS DON'T NECESSARILY GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
11:27:04 A LOT OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND A LOT OF GRAY.
11:27:06 WE ARE HERE TO TALK OF THE GRAY.
11:27:09 FOR ME THIS BASIC PROGRAM WHERE WEATHER IS EXISTED
11:27:15 YEARS AGO OR SIX MONTHS AGO OR TODAY, A FOUNDATION THAT
11:27:19 IS VERY LEAST CRACKED AND FOUNDATION FOR MORE VIOLENT
11:27:22 CRIMES THINGS LIKE DRUG TRAFFICKING AND WE HAVE TO
11:27:24 ADMIT THAT THE FOUNDATION IS CRACKED.
11:27:25 WHY?
11:27:27 BECAUSE IT DEALS WITH ARRESTS AND ALLEGATIONS.
11:27:29 NOT CONVICTIONS.
11:27:32 THAT IS PART OF THE CRACKED FOUNDATION.
11:27:34 AND THE ACT OF LIABILITY.
11:27:39 THE ACTION OF ONE PERSON IN THE HOUSE HOLD WILL EFFECT
11:27:41 WHAT, HOUSING.
11:27:43 PART OF AN EVICTION.
11:27:46 TO ME THE PROGRAM SHOULD NOT GO ON AUTOPILOT WITHOUT
11:27:48 STRICT SCRUTINY ON THE PART OF CITY COUNCIL.
11:27:49 I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT.
11:27:52 WE NEED SCRUTINY, CHAIRMAN GUDES.
11:27:53 I SAW YOUR MEMO.
11:27:58 I WAS IN SUPPORT OF THE SENTIMENTS EXPRESSED THE MEMO
11:28:01 GIVEN THE HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM THAT INCLUDES 100
11:28:04 PEOPLE INCLUDED FOR MISDEMEANOR AND DOZENS MORE WHOSE
11:28:06 CHARGES WERE DROPPED, ETC.
11:28:07 WE DO NEED SCRUTINY.
11:28:10 WHAT I SUGGEST AND WHAT I ENVISION IN THAT REGARD AT
11:28:13 THE VERY LEAST -- AGAIN, CITY COUNCIL, WE CAN MAKE OUR
11:28:15 OPINIONS KNOWN, BUT CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE
11:28:16 THAT ARE BINDING.
11:28:18 WHAT CAN WE DO THAT ARE BINDING.
11:28:23 SCRUTINY THAT INCLUDES A REPORT BACK TO US IN 90 DAYS
11:28:28 AND TO THE VERY LEAST, AT THE EXTENT THE PROGRAM GOES
11:28:29 FORWARD ON A YEARLY BASIS.
11:28:34 WE NEED CONTINUED DIALOGUE WITH STAKEHOLDERS IN A
11:28:37 MANNER THAT IS NOT REACTIVE BUT PROACTIVE.
11:28:38 WHY IS THAT?
11:28:39 BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM.
11:28:41 BY HISTORY I DON'T MEAN 1980.
11:28:47 I MEAN 2014, '15, '16, '17 AND '18.
11:28:52 THINGS THAT WIND UP HAVING DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS.
11:28:54 WE NEED TO SAY THAT THINGS LIKE THIS SHOULD NEVER
11:28:55 HAPPEN AGAIN.
11:28:59 WE SAID THAT BEFORE AND NOW WE ARE HERE WITH THIS.
11:29:02 THIS TO ME WHEN THE PROGRAM STARTED WAS BAD POLICY --
11:29:06 MAY I HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE, MR. CHAIR.
11:29:09 WITH UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
11:29:12 PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT THE CITY START THIS PROGRAM WITH
11:29:13 BAD INTENT.
11:29:15 I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.
11:29:19 THIS HAS A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT MEAN WELL THAT HAVE
11:29:22 UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT A VERY
11:29:26 SERIOUS WAY WHEN IT COMES TO UN ATTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
11:29:30 WE CAN FIGHT CRIME WHILE BEING MADE AWARE OF THE
11:29:33 UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES TO STOP, LOOK AT THAT PROGRAM
11:29:37 AND SEE HOW WE CAN BE MADE BETTER AS IN TALKING WITH
11:29:38 STAKEHOLDERS.
11:29:41 TAKING A LOOK AT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND
11:29:45 SEEING WHETHER WE CAN MITIGATE THE UNINTENDED
11:29:48 CONSEQUENCES OR REPEAL AND REPLACE.
11:29:49 WHICHEVER WAY IT GOES.
11:29:51 PART OF THE DEADLOCK WE HAVE.
11:29:56 WHEN I READ THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES" ARTICLE AND IT VERY
11:29:57 MUCH DISTURBED ME.
11:30:00 FOR ME, NOT AN ISSUE WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE IN FAVOR OF
11:30:02 PUBLIC SAFETY OR IN SUPPORT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
11:30:03 OFFICERS.
11:30:06 ANYONE WHO WOULD SAY I AM AGAINST PUBLIC SAFETY OR
11:30:10 DON'T SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT MIGHT AS WELL SAY THAT I
11:30:11 AM BALD.
11:30:15 TO ME AN ISSUE OF POLICY AND HOW WE GO TOWARD AN
11:30:18 EFFECTIVE FIGHT AGAINST CRIME IN STANDING WITH THOSE
11:30:21 FOLKS THAT CAME HERE TO SPEAK FROM THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:30:23 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:30:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.
11:30:27 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:30:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:30:32 A QUESTION ON THE JOB APPLICATION WHERE YOU ARE ASKED,
11:30:35 HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ARRESTED.
11:30:37 THERE IS A DIFFERENCE HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ARRESTED OR
11:30:40 CONVICTED OF A CRIME.
11:30:42 WE HAVE HAD ARRESTS IN SITUATION BUT THE CHARGES MAY
11:30:43 HAVE BEEN DROPPED.
11:30:46 BUT THE FACT IS THERE WAS AN ARREST AND THE ARREST IS
11:30:49 ENOUGH OF A PENALTY THAT CAUSED THE DAMAGE.
11:30:51 WE TALK ABOUT THE HOMELESS SITUATION.
11:30:54 WE TALK ABOUT THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING YET WE
11:30:57 HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE THAT WHEN SOMEONE, ONE PERSON,
11:31:00 ONE MEMBER OF A FAMILY GETS IN TROUBLE, AN ENTIRE
11:31:03 FAMILY IS PUNISHED AND THEREFORE THEY ARE EVICTED AND
11:31:06 WE HAVE SEEN THAT BECAUSE THAT IS -- I THINK IT IS A
11:31:09 TERRIBLE POLICY TO PUNISH EVERYBODY FOR THE MISTAKE OF
11:31:10 ONE PERSON.
11:31:13 I THINK IT IS WAY TOO OUT THERE.
11:31:15 I KNOW WE WANT TO FIGHT CRIME.
11:31:19 WE WANT TO REDUCE THE NUMBERS OF CRIME.
11:31:22 I UNDERSTAND THERE WERE MAYBE GOOD INTENTIONS FOR THIS
11:31:25 PROGRAM, BUT LOOK AT THE EFFECTS OF IT.
11:31:28 LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE AFFECTED BY THIS.
11:31:32 PERHAPS THE SITUATION WAS SOLVED FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND
11:31:34 THE APARTMENT COMPLEX AND WHATEVER.
11:31:36 AND BE ENTIRE FAMILY IN MANY CASES.
11:31:40 ENTIRE FAMILIES HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE BY THIS, BY THE
11:31:42 POLICIES IN PLACE.
11:31:46 AND THOSE FAMILIES HAVE BEEN DISPLACED AS WE HAVE
11:31:48 SEEN A HOUSING CRISIS ALREADY AS IT IS.
11:31:52 WE ARE PUNISHING PEOPLE THAT WILL NOT BE PUNISHED, BUT
11:31:55 THEY HAVE BECOME COLLATERAL DAMAGE DUE TO THESE
11:31:56 POLICIES.
11:31:59 I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAVE BEEN -- MAY HAVE BEEN
11:32:01 DISCUSSION OF SUSPENDING THIS.
11:32:06 AT LEAST TEMPORARILY TO RE-EVALUATE THINGS.
11:32:10 I UNDERSTAND THE MAYOR PROPOSED DIFFERENT CHANGES, BUT
11:32:13 AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE POLICY IS NOT GOOD -- LET ME
11:32:16 SAY, THE POLICY IS NOT PERFECT.
11:32:19 THERE ARE MANY MISTAKES, BUT THESE MISTAKES HAD DIRE
11:32:21 CONSEQUENCES FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
11:32:22 THANK YOU.
11:32:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:32:28 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.
11:32:29 THANK YOU.
11:32:32 THE -- FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY SIMILAR TO MY
11:32:36 COLLEAGUES, I SUPPORT THE MEN AND WOMEN -- OUR OFFICERS
11:32:36 IN UNIFORM.
11:32:39 AND ALSO SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY.
11:32:43 WE NEED PUBLIC SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
11:32:45 AND PEOPLE IN TAMPA REMEMBER A TIME WHEN THERE WASN'T
11:32:48 PUBLIC SAFETY AS THERE IS NOW.
11:32:51 BUT FOR THE MINUTE THE HARD-WORKING MEN AND WOMEN THAT
11:32:54 WEAR THE UNIFORM, THEY DON'T SET POLICIES.
11:32:57 THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, CHIEF AND CITY COUNCIL SET
11:32:58 POLICIES.
11:33:03 AND SO WHATEVER I OR WE MAY SAY ABOUT POLICIES, THAT
11:33:07 SOUR ROLE, NOT -- NOT ANY CRITICISM OF THE HARD-WORKING
11:33:09 MEN AND WOMEN OF THE POLICE FORCE.
11:33:12 I THINK THERE ARE MANY, MANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS
11:33:14 PROGRAM.
11:33:18 THE TIMES AND CRITICAL PEOPLE HAVE OUTLINED THEM IN
11:33:20 GREAT DETAIL AND THE PUBLIC CAN READ IT, BUT A COUPLE
11:33:22 THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IN PARTICULAR.
11:33:26 NUMBER ONE, THAT INNOCENT PEOPLE WERE PUNISHED.
11:33:29 IT IS NOT FAIR TO PUNISH INNOCENT PEOPLE.
11:33:33 AND WHATEVER WE SAY ABOUT WHAT THE INTENT OF THE
11:33:36 PROGRAM WAS, THE FACT IS THAT IF ONE PERSON, EVEN A
11:33:39 CHILD, COMMITTED ANY KIND OF CRIME IN A HOUSEHOLD, THE
11:33:43 ENTIRE FAMILY WAS EVICTED.
11:33:46 AND I THINK THAT THE CITY SHOULD NOT HAVE A POLICY THAT
11:33:50 CAUSES INNOCENT PEOPLE TO BE EVICTED FROM THEIR HOMES.
11:33:53 SECOND, I WONDER, WHAT IS THE EFFECTIVENESS OF KICKING
11:33:57 PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES EVEN IF THEY COMMITTED A
11:33:58 MISDEMEANOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
11:34:02 I TOTALLY AGREE WITH PREVENTING CRIME, BUT THE QUESTION
11:34:04 IS, WHERE DID THE PEOPLE GO?
11:34:06 YOU KNOW -- I AM A DATA PERSON.
11:34:08 I HAVEN'T BEEN PRESENTED ANY DATA.
11:34:12 AND MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A WHOLE WORKSHOP ON THE DATA
11:34:16 FOR THIS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE WAY YOU SET YOUR MODEL
11:34:20 AND THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THE DATA EFFECTS WHAT THIS
11:34:21 MEANS.
11:34:22 WHERE DID THE PEOPLE GO.
11:34:24 DID THEY MOVE TO ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:34:28 DID YOU LOOK AT CRIME IN A CERTAIN RADIUS AND IF THEY
11:34:31 MOVED TO ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD CRIME GO UP IN THAT OR
11:34:35 MOVE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMIT AND NOW THE CRIME IS IN THE
11:34:36 COUNTY.
11:34:37 WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT CAREFULLY.
11:34:43 SEVERAL FOLKS TALKED OF HOW THE VIOLENT CRIME RATE IN
11:34:45 TESTIMONY BECAUSE PEOPLE WITH MISDEMEANORS DON'T HAVE A
11:34:46 PLACE TO LIVE?
11:34:49 HAVE WE KICKED PEOPLE INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING THE ISSUES
11:34:52 DIRECTLY, WE HAVE NOT ONLY HURT THE LIVES -- WE HAVE
11:34:56 HURT THE LIVES OF THEIR ENTIRE FAMILIES AND INNOCENT
11:35:01 PEOPLE FOR THINGS THAT -- THAT THEY DIDN'T DO.
11:35:05 THIRD, THE POWERPOINT, WHICH HAS BEEN LISTED IN THE
11:35:08 MEDIA, I AM TOLD CAME THROUGH PUBLIC RECORDS.
11:35:09 IT WAS INCREDIBLY OFFENSIVE.
11:35:13 I MEAN, IT IS THE KIND OF THING THAT IS USED BY THE
11:35:15 WORST REGIMES IN COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD.
11:35:20 AND WE -- WE CANNOT HAVE COMMUNICATION LIKE THAT IN AND
11:35:22 AROUND OUR CITY.
11:35:24 IT IS HORRIBLE THAT ANYONE WOULD HAVE SAID THOSE
11:35:25 THINGS.
11:35:28 AND WHETHER THE POWERPOINT WAS USED REGULARLY OR NOT,
11:35:30 THE MESSAGING IS IMPORTANT.
11:35:32 WAS ANY OF THAT MESSAGING USED?
11:35:36 I -- I APPRECIATE THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE IN 2019.
11:35:39 THIS ADMINISTRATION CHANGED THE POLICIES OF THE PAST.
11:35:42 AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND POLICIES IN THE
11:35:44 PAST THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
11:35:47 IF YOU STRING THESE TOGETHER, THERE ARE LOTS OF
11:35:48 PROGRAM.
11:35:49 I THINK THIS PROGRAM SHOULD END.
11:35:52 WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY END IT AND COME UP WITH OTHER
11:35:55 SOLUTIONS AND NEED TO BE DONE WITH ORDINANCE NOT BY A
11:35:56 PROGRAM OR EXECUTIVE ORDER.
11:36:00 I AGREE WITH THE "TIMES" EDITORIAL, WE NEED IN-DEPTH
11:36:01 REVIEW.
11:36:07 WE NEED TO LOOK AT REAL DATA AND KNOW IF THIS REALLY
11:36:10 DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE OR NOT AND WE AT LEAST NEED TO
11:36:11 HAVE ANNUAL UPDATES.
11:36:14 I HAVE A MOTION THAT I CAN MAKE LATER IF YOU ALL WANT.
11:36:15 I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
11:36:21 CHIEF DELGADO, CAN YOU PLEASE TELL US -- SEVERAL FOLKS
11:36:23 IN THE COMMUNITY ALLEGE THAT THE TPD OR THE CITY PICKED
11:36:27 UP PEOPLE IN NEIGHBORHOODS THIS MORNING AND BROUGHT
11:36:29 THEM TO CITY COUNCIL TO SPEAK.
11:36:32 AND WE JUST SAW THE PHOTOGRAPHER TAKING PICTURES OF
11:36:36 ONLY OF THE PEOPLE WHO APPARENTLY AGREED WITH THIS
11:36:37 POLICY.
11:36:41 WAS THERE A PROGRAM BY THE CITY OR TPD TO TRY TO SWAY
11:36:45 CITY COUNCIL TODAY AS TO THE -- AS TO THE OUTCOME OF
11:36:46 THIS?
11:36:47 >> NO, SIR.
11:36:50 I AM NOT SURE WHAT YOU ARE -- WHAT THE DRIVING -- I
11:36:51 DON'T KNOW.
11:36:54 BUT I CAN TELL YOU, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SWAY
11:36:57 EVERYTHING PEOPLE WHO WERE PASSIONATE AND WANTED TO
11:36:59 GIVE THEIR ATTENTION.
11:37:01 AS FAR AS PICTURE, I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ME
11:37:03 WALKING BACK HERE.
11:37:05 BUT WE WERE TAKING PICTURES OF THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH
11:37:06 AS WELL.
11:37:08 SO --
11:37:11 >>BILL CARLSON: OTHERS WILL BE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT
11:37:13 THAT BUT SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
11:37:14 THANK YOU.
11:37:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:37:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR.
11:37:18 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:37:19 I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
11:37:23 AND I AM TRYING FIGURE OUT FROM THE TOP DOWN HOW THIS
11:37:24 PROGRAM CAME ABOUT.
11:37:30 AND I AM WONDERING WHY REPRESENTATIVES FROM HUD AND
11:37:32 TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AREN'T HERE.
11:37:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MOORE WAS ASKED TO BE HERE.
11:37:41 I HAD COFFEE WITH HIM AND ASKED HIM.
11:37:44 BUT WE WENT SO LONG AND WE HAD OTHER THINGS TO DO AND
11:37:46 HE WAS ASKED TO BE HERE, SIR.
11:37:47 I THINK HE WAS REGISTERED.
11:37:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR.
11:37:52 I THANK YOU FOR THAT AND ALL WELL SAID AND DONE, BUT,
11:37:56 AGAIN, ANSWERS SHOULD COME FROM THE TOP DOWN.
11:37:57 >> I AGREE.
11:37:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS ISN'T JUST A TAMPA POLICE
11:38:00 DEPARTMENT ISSUE.
11:38:08 YES, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS THERE TO ASSIST IN --
11:38:12 TO ASSIST IN THESE PROCEDURES, BUT IT ALL CAME FROM
11:38:18 HUD, DOWN TO TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY, AND PRIVATE
11:38:22 APARTMENT OWNERS WHO THIS PROGRAM IS RUNNING THROUGH.
11:38:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FINISH YOUR COMMENT AND THEN WE WILL
11:38:29 HAVE MR. MOORE TALK.
11:38:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT WILL BE WONDERFUL.
11:38:32 DO I THINK THIS PROGRAM SHOULD STOP?
11:38:33 NOT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
11:38:39 WE SHOULD HAVE -- WHEN WE HAVE A SURGE IN GUN VIOLENCE?
11:38:40 NO, SIR.
11:38:43 DOES THIS PROGRAM NEED TO BE LOOKED INTO?
11:38:45 THERE IS A BIG TABLE.
11:38:51 T PD, HUD, TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY, NAACP, CONCERNED
11:38:59 CITIZENS SHOULD ALL SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THIS.
11:39:02 MR. MOORE, IF YOU ARE ON, I -- I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR
11:39:04 INPUT IN THIS.
11:39:05 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:39:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE WELCOME, SIR.
11:39:26 CAN YOU BRING HIM UP.
11:39:28 OKAY.
11:39:31 >> HELLO, CITY COUNCIL.
11:39:33 CAN YOU HEAR ME.
11:39:36 >> APOLLO, LEROY MOORE, TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
11:39:39 I HAVE BEEN ON HERE SINCE 9:00 BUT WAITING TO BE
11:39:40 CALLED.
11:39:41 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:39:45 GOOD MORNING AGAIN AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR
11:39:50 THAT I SPEAK TODAY SOLELY ON THE EVICTION PROCESS AND
11:39:54 HOW SOMETIMES INTERSECTS WITH THE CITY'S CRIME FREE
11:39:55 HOUSING PROGRAM.
11:40:00 WE DO NOT ADVOCATE ON THE ORDINANCE MAKING PROCESS AND
11:40:04 WE DO EDUCATE ON THE IMPACT OF THA PROGRAMS AND
11:40:07 ACTIVITIES, SPECIFICALLY TODAY I WANTED IT TO BE
11:40:10 UNDERSTOOD THAT OUR EVICTION PROCESS EXISTED LONG
11:40:13 BEFORE THE CRIME-FREE HOUSING PROGRAM.
11:40:17 WE PROVIDED 14,000 UNITS OF SUBSIDIZED HOUSING IN TAMPA
11:40:18 AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
11:40:20 JUST TWO YEARS AGO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE 39,000
11:40:24 FAMILIES SITTING ON A WAITING LIST FOR HOUSING.
11:40:25 FOR THIS VERY HOUSING.
11:40:30 TODAY WITH PURGING AND MERGING AND CLEANUP OF DUPLICATE
11:40:35 APPLICATIONS, WE HAVE 7,000 FAMILIES STILL WAITING FOR
11:40:38 THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO BE HOUSED IN PLACES WHERE THEY CAN
11:40:40 AFFORD, LIVE PEACEFULLY AND RAISE FAMILIES.
11:40:44 WE HAVE A PUBLIC RESPONSIBILITY AND A FEDERAL
11:40:49 OBLIGATION FOR THE LEASE TO ENSURE THAT OUR HOUSING IS
11:40:53 SAFE AND AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT THREATEN
11:40:58 THE WELFARE OF OTHERS AND THE MULTICRIME-FREE HOUSING
11:41:01 PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE NEVER FILED EVICTION BECAUSE OF
11:41:03 TPD NOTICE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
11:41:06 THIS IS BUT ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT WE USE TO ENSURE THAT
11:41:10 WE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
11:41:14 THE PRACTICE IS ALWAYS GIVE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ARRESTED
11:41:22 OR CITED WITH CRIMINAL ARRESTS DUE PROCESS.
11:41:26 WE DO GREAT FOR OUR OWN DILIGENCE AND AIR ON THE SIDE
11:41:30 OF THE CLIENT, ACCEPT WHERE DOCUMENTATION IS CLEAR AND
11:41:34 THE PATTERN OF NONCOMPLIANCE IS HABITUAL.
11:41:36 WE ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF HOUSING PEOPLE AND GIVING
11:41:41 SECOND CHANCES AND OFTEN THIRD AND FOURTH CHANCES.
11:41:45 THE PARTNERSHIP OF TPD IS MOST IMPACTFUL FOR US AND
11:41:47 ENSURING SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
11:41:49 THIS IS OUR OWN PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT THAT WORKS ON
11:41:53 OUR SITE TO NOT JUST DOCUMENT CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES, BUT
11:41:56 MORE IMPORTANTLY UNDERSTAND, TO IDENTIFY HOUSEHOLDS
11:41:59 THAT MIGHT NEED SUPPORT SERVICES, ASSISTANCE,
11:42:00 COUNSELING.
11:42:04 BE IT FAMILY COUNSELING, CHILDHOOD ASSISTANCE,
11:42:08 EDUCATIONAL, EMPLOYMENT SKILLS, YOUTH DIVERSION,
11:42:12 RECREATIONAL, AFTERSCHOOL SERVICES, CASE MANAGEMENT, A
11:42:15 WIDE VARIETY OF SOCIAL SERVICES THAT WE OFFER TO
11:42:18 FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH THE SECOND LARGEST
11:42:22 APARTMENT THA RESIDENT SERVICES.
11:42:26 WE HAVE OVER 45 PEOPLE IN THAT ONE DEPARTMENT WHOSE
11:42:32 CASE MANAGEMENT WITH OUR FAMILIES WHO COUNSEL, CONSOLE
11:42:35 AND NAVIGATE FAMILIES IN STRESS OF PROGRAMS AND
11:42:39 SERVICES TO STABILIZE THEIR FAMILIES AND PROMOTE
11:42:42 GREATER SUBSTANCE.
11:42:45 WHEN A FAMILY HAS BEEN ENGAGING WITH THE CRIMINAL
11:42:47 JUSTICE PROGRAM IS THE LAST RESORT.
11:42:50 NOT THE FIRST AND SECOND THAT WE EXERCISE.
11:42:52 I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY
11:42:56 SINCE 2018 HAS BEEN PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
11:43:01 WE EXITED THE PUBLIC HOUSING PROGRAM AND CONVERTED OUR
11:43:05 INVENTORY TO ASSISTANCE DEMONSTRATION.
11:43:08 WE WERE NO LONGER COVERED UNDER THE FEDERAL MUCH
11:43:11 STRICTER ONE STRIKE AND YOU ARE OUT POLICY WHICH
11:43:15 ACTUALLY EXISTED UP UNTIL 2018 WHEN WE ACTUALLY MOVED
11:43:18 INTO THE CRIME-FREE MULTIHOUSING PROGRAM.
11:43:22 JUST TO REITERATE ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THE MANY
11:43:24 TOOLS THAT WE USE IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHAT IS GOING
11:43:29 ON WITH OUR FAMILIES AND WE ALWAYS PROVIDE SUPPORT.
11:43:30 WE PROVIDE COUNSEL.
11:43:33 WE PROVIDE REPAYMENT AGREEMENTS.
11:43:36 WE PROVIDE STIPULATIONS ON LEASES.
11:43:39 AND MOST CASES, FAMILIES WILL HAVE THREE OR FOUR
11:43:43 INFRACTIONS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GO TO THE POINT OF
11:43:44 EVICTION.
11:43:47 JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL WAS AWARE OF
11:43:49 THAT.
11:43:52 ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
11:43:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MOORE, GOING AROUND THE TABLE AND
11:43:58 LET COUNCILMEMBER WHO HAVE QUESTIONS IN REFERENCE TO
11:44:02 YOUR ESTABLISHMENT, WHAT REALLY GOES ON.
11:44:03 IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:44:06 MR. CITRO, YOU WERE ASKING IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR
11:44:06 MR. MOORE.
11:44:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MOORE, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
11:44:10 BEING HERE TODAY.
11:44:13 I AM GOING TO ASK YOU ONE QUICK QUESTION.
11:44:18 AND YOU SAID THAT THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY GOES BY A
11:44:23 POLICY THAT IS LESS STRICTER THAT HAS BEEN CREATED BY
11:44:23 HUD.
11:44:25 I DID HEAR YOU CORRECTLY ON THAT?
11:44:26 >> NO, NO.
11:44:30 JUST TO REPEAT THAT.
11:44:34 BEFORE 2018, WE WERE -- ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES WERE
11:44:38 CONSIDERED PUBLIC HOUSING SUBSIDIZED PROPERTIES.
11:44:42 NOW CONSIDERED SECTION 8 SUBSIDIZED POLICIES.
11:44:45 UNDER THE PUBLIC HOUSING GROUP, WE WERE INQUIRED TO
11:44:47 INCLUDE IN THE LEASE WHAT IS CALLED THE ONE-STRIKE
11:44:50 POLICY.
11:44:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MOORE, I STAND CORRECTED.
11:44:55 I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:44:59 WHEN THE LEASES ARE WRITTEN, ARE THEY HANDED DOWN --
11:45:03 EXCUSE ME, ARE THEY WRITTEN BY TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY?
11:45:06 AND MY POINT, MR. MOORE AND I WILL LET YOU ANSWER THAT.
11:45:08 GO AHEAD.
11:45:12 >> OUR LEASE IS A HUD LEASE THAT IS MODIFIED BY OUR
11:45:13 ATTORNEY.
11:45:22 AND EVERY FAMILY SIGNS THE SAME LEASE.
11:45:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHEN A PERSON IS -- COMMITTED A CRIME
11:45:29 OR UNDER YOUR LEASE FACES EVICTION, THEN YOU ARE
11:45:38 PARTNERSHIP BEGINS WITH TPD?
11:45:42 >> NO OUR PARTNERSHIP BEGAN WITH TPD WITH THE CRIME
11:45:46 PREVENTION PROGRAM IN 2018 WHEN WE APPLIED FOR THAT
11:45:49 PROGRAM BECAUSE WE WERE NO LONGER UNDER THE ONE-STRIKE
11:45:49 REQUIREMENT.
11:45:54 WE SAW IT AS A PROGRAM THAT PRIMARILY GAVE US -- TPD
11:45:57 COUNSEL TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY STAFF, TO WALK THE SITE,
11:46:00 SURVEY THE SITE, DO AN INSPECTION OF THE SITE, AND GIVE
11:46:06 US CEPTED, CRIME PREVENTION ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN
11:46:06 RECOMMENDATIONS.
11:46:10 RESULTED IN US HAVING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENT OUR SITES
11:46:13 SUCH AS LIGHTING LEVELS.
11:46:16 HOW LOTS ARE UTILIZED.
11:46:18 AND HOW WE MANAGED MASTER KEY SITE, ETC.
11:46:22 IT PROVIDED TRAINING TO OUR FAMILIES -- SORRY, TO OUR
11:46:25 -- TO OUR LEASE STAFF.
11:46:29 AND THEN IT ALSO GAVE THEM PARTNERSHIP WITH US TO
11:46:32 ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL ON
11:46:35 CRIME PREVENTION STRATEGIES.
11:46:39 SO THAT IS WHEN WE STARTED IN MULTIHOUSING CRIME-FREE
11:46:39 PROGRAM.
11:46:44 AND WE STARTED USING THE LEASE ADDENDUM ONCE WE HAD
11:46:46 COMPLETED THAT CHECKLIST OF REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE
11:46:49 REQUIRED IN ORDER TO JOIN THE PROGRAM.
11:46:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MOORE, AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR
11:46:52 BEING HERE.
11:46:54 I THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS AND I AM SURE YOU
11:46:57 CLEARED UP SOME QUESTIONS THAT OTHER PEOPLE MAY HAVE
11:46:59 THAT MAY BE LISTENING RIGHT NOW.
11:47:00 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:47:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY -- ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR.
11:47:03 MOORE?
11:47:04 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:47:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:47:10 THANK YOU, MR. MOORE, FOR JOINING US TODAY AND FOR ALL
11:47:14 YOU DO IN THE COMMUNITY.
11:47:19 JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK CLARIFICATIONS, LEROY.
11:47:24 CHIEF DELGADO SAID CURRENTLY 42 COMPLEXES, PROBABLY
11:47:26 LARGE AND SMALL, THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT ARE INVOLVED
11:47:28 IN THIS.
11:47:31 HOW MANY OF THOSE WOULD BE YOURS?
11:47:35 FIVE, TEN?
11:47:38 >> THE ONE PRIMARY ONE THINK THAT KNOW OF IS ROBLES
11:47:38 PARK.
11:47:42 I THINK JL YOUNG IS ANOTHER ONE.
11:47:45 SO FROM PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR WITH ADVISING ME THAT 12
11:47:49 TOTAL HAVE NOW COMPLETED THAT PROCESS IN ORDER TO BE
11:47:52 ABLE TO USE THE CRIME-FREE PROGRAM.
11:47:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:47:56 WHEN I LOOKED AT THE MAP THAT WAS SHOWN US TO EARLIER,
11:48:02 CHIEF, AND MR. MOORE, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU.
11:48:06 I LOOKED AT THE MAP, IT SHOWED A COUPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA.
11:48:12 AND TO ME -- THEY ARE ONLY BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BUN
11:48:15 IN INTERBAY THAT IS TRELL I HAVE ITLY NEW.
11:48:16 >> I SAW THE SAME MAP.
11:48:19 IT DID LOOK LIKE IT WAS -- IT WAS POINTING TO OUR
11:48:19 PROPERTIES.
11:48:23 WE HAVE THREE PROPERTIES IN SOUTH TAMPA.
11:48:29 SOUTH BAY.
11:48:34 PAGE YET ESTATES AND BELCIA APARTMENTS.
11:48:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE ONE ON MACDILL, WAS THAT ALSO
11:48:41 -- ALSO HOUSING AUTHORITY OWNED?
11:48:45 >> I DON'T KNOW OF THE MAP BUT WE HAVE ON MACDILL
11:48:48 IMMEDIATELY BEHIND WHAT WAS THE COLONADE
11:48:54 RESTAURANT .
11:48:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY OTHER QUESTION AND ARGUABLY, YOU HAVE
11:49:00 FIVE AND TEN OUT OF THESE OUT OF THE 42 AROUND THE
11:49:00 CITY.
11:49:03 SO YOU CAN SPEAK TO WHAT TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY IS --
11:49:07 IS DOING WITH REGARD TO DUE PROCESS.
11:49:08 AND THAT SORT OF THING.
11:49:13 BUT YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO THE MANAGEMENT AND THE IMPACT OF
11:49:17 CRIME-FREE ON THE -- ON ALL THESE OTHER PRIVATE
11:49:19 APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
11:49:21 IS THAT CORRECT, MR. MOORE?
11:49:21 >> ABSOLUTELY.
11:49:24 ONLY THE 12 THAT ARE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY
11:49:26 PROPERTIES.
11:49:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I THINK THAT IS EXTREMELY
11:49:32 IMPORTANT, MR. CHAIRMAN, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYBODY
11:49:37 TO BE MISLED AND LEROY IS NOT TRYING TO MISLEAD THEM
11:49:40 AND TPD IS NOT TRYING TO MISLEAD THEM, BUT TAMPA
11:49:44 HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR ARGUMENT SAKE 12 OUT OF THE 42
11:49:46 APARTMENT COMPLEX LEAVING ANOTHER 30 APARTMENT
11:49:51 COMPLEXES THAT HAVE PRIVATE MANAGEMENT THAT I AM SURE
11:49:55 CONTROL AND MANAGE THEIR CRIME-FREE PROGRAM 30
11:49:57 DIFFERENT WAYS.
11:49:59 BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
11:50:00 THAT IS.
11:50:03 WE DON'T -- WE DON'T KNOW HOW THEY ARE MANAGING IT.
11:50:05 WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE.
11:50:07 WE DON'T KNOW.
11:50:10 SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE STRICT -- YOU KNOW STRICT AND SAY
11:50:14 ONE STRIKE AND YOU ARE OUT AND OTHERS MIGHT BE LENIENT.
11:50:17 LET ME GET BACK TO SOME OF THE BIGGER ISSUES.
11:50:18 THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
11:50:23 DO YOU WANT TO CIRCLE BACK WITH ME OR FINISH WITH MR.
11:50:24 MOORE.
11:50:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. MOORE?
11:50:28 >> NO, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:50:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MOORE, REALLY -- WHEN I HEAR
11:50:34 PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT BEING "KICKED OUT."
11:50:39 MR. DINGFELDER ALLUDED TO A GOOD POINT WE DON'T KNOW
11:50:43 WHAT THE VAST -- THE VAST MA DWRORT THAT WE ARE TALKING
11:50:45 ABOUT TODAY ARE PUBLIC HOUSING COMPLEXES.
11:50:48 WHAT I HEARD TODAY, THAT COME FORTH TO SPEAK.
11:50:53 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT HOUSING HAS A
11:50:56 DIFFERENT CHRIST GUIDELINE AND TPD IS NOT WRITING
11:51:00 EVICTIONS FOR YOU GUYS OR ENCOURAGING EVICTIONS FOR YOU
11:51:03 GUYS AND YOU HAVE YOUR OWN SET OF RULES FOR HOUSING, IS
11:51:05 THAT CORRECT, SIR?
11:51:06 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
11:51:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT THE BULK OF MY QUESTION FOR MR.
11:51:12 MOORE MAKING SURE WE HAVE A DES STRICTION THAT TPD IS
11:51:15 NOT INVOLVED IN AN EVICTION PROCESS WITH HOUSING.
11:51:18 AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER FOLKS ARE DOING, BUT
11:51:21 THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COMPLAINTS OF WHAT I AM
11:51:25 HEARING ARE PEOPLE TALK OF PUBLIC HOUSING FROM WHAT I
11:51:26 AM HEARING TODAY.
11:51:30 I WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLEAR THAT OUT, HOUSING HAS A
11:51:32 DIFFERENT SPECK WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THEY HAVE OTHER
11:51:34 DIFFERENT RULES AND A PROCESS.
11:51:36 MR. DINGFELDER.
11:51:39 MR. MIRANDA AND MR. MOORE.
11:51:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STILL MR. DINGFELDER.
11:51:46 MR. MOORE, ANY MORE QUESTIONS?
11:51:48 HE IS BUSY IN HOUSING.
11:51:52 MR. MOORE, THANK YOU FOR COMING EXPLAINING WHAT PUBLIC
11:51:55 HOUSING IS DOING IN RELATION TO THIS PROGRAM.
11:51:57 APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
11:51:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU MAY CONTINUE,
11:51:59 SIR.
11:52:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:52:05 SO -- IT'S SORT OF IRONIC THAT THIS PROGRAM THAT WAS
11:52:12 STARTED BY A PRIVATE GROUP -- PRIVATE NONPROFIT GROUP
11:52:15 CALL THEMSELF CRIME-FREE.
11:52:19 THAT IS AN ADMIRABLE GOAL.
11:52:21 WE WANT THIS COMMUNITY AND THE WHOLE WORLD TO BE CRIME
11:52:24 FREE.
11:52:29 AND HOW YOU GET TO THE POINT OF BEING CRIME-FREE IS
11:52:30 SORT OF A CONTINUUM.
11:52:35 YOU CAN HAVE EXCELLENT POLICING, OKAY.
11:52:39 AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:52:41 WE HAVE EXCELLENT POLICING.
11:52:46 BUT THEN AT A CERTAIN POINT, YOU CAN CROSS A LINE.
11:52:49 AND I THINK MR. VIERA, MR. MANISCALCO, MR. CARLSON,
11:52:55 THEY ALL SPOKE ELOQUENTLY ABOUT CROSSING THE LINE.
11:52:58 AND SADLY -- AND I DON'T MEAN TO BRING UP BAD STUFF,
11:53:02 BUT SADLY SOME PEOPLE MENTIONED THE BICYCLING PROGRAM
11:53:04 THAT WAS A PROBLEMATIC.
11:53:06 AND THAT PROGRAM CROSSED THE LINE.
11:53:10 AND I THINK IN SOME WAYS HISTORICALLY THIS PROGRAM HAS
11:53:14 CROSSED THE LINE, NOT JUST IN THE CITY OF TAMPA BUT
11:53:16 2,000 COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
11:53:20 AND LUIS, YOU SAID IT THE BEST.
11:53:21 LET ME SEE WHAT I WROTE DOWN.
11:53:24 BUT YOU SAID IT THE BEST WITH REGARD TO THE TWO KEY
11:53:27 ISSUES THAT HAVE BOTHERED ME FROM THE BEGINNING AND
11:53:32 MAYBE OUR LEGAL TRAINING, LUIS, IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE
11:53:36 RAISED AS SECOND-GRADERS TO LEARN THAT WE ARE INNOCENT
11:53:38 UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
11:53:42 AND AS -- AS SOMEBODY WHO STOOD IN FRONT OF JURIES IN
11:53:45 CRIMINAL CASES, THAT IS THE FIRST THING OUT OF MY
11:53:45 MOUTH.
11:53:50 AND OFTEN THAT IS THE PROSECUTOR'S -- THE FIRST THING
11:53:53 OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS TOO BECAUSE WE ALL BELIEVE IN THAT
11:53:55 AS PART OF OUR AMERICAN SYSTEM.
11:53:57 WE ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
11:54:00 WHEN ARE WE PROVEN GUILTY?
11:54:07 WE ARE PROVEN GUILTY WHEN A JURY FINDS YOU GUILTY AND
11:54:11 THE JUDGE FINDS YOU GUILTY AND YOU ACCEPT YOUR PLEA.
11:54:12 NOT WHEN YOU ARE ARRESTED.
11:54:15 IT IS BASED ON A PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE AND THAT
11:54:18 SORT OF THING, BUT NOT A TRIAL, YOU KNOW.
11:54:21 THAT IS WHY OUR SYSTEM IS GREAT.
11:54:24 IT IS WHY OUR SYSTEM IS WHAT IT IS.
11:54:28 BECAUSE YOU ARE ARRESTED FIRST, SADLY ENOUGH, NO MATTER
11:54:32 WHERES CAN, WHETHER OR NOT IT IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX
11:54:39 OR ON BILL CARLSON'S STREET, WHEREVER IT IS, IT IS
11:54:44 TRAGIC FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED BUT NOT A CONVICTION.
11:54:47 AND SHOULDN'T RESULT IN AN EVICTION UNDER ANY
11:54:48 CIRCUMSTANCES.
11:54:51 AND MOREEVER, THE GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T BE INVOLVED IN
11:54:54 ENCOURAGING THAT EVICTION BASED ON THAT ARREST.
11:54:57 NOT UNTIL THERE IS A CONVICTION OR A PLEA.
11:55:00 SO THAT WAS POINT NUMBER ONE STATED BY AT LEAST THREE
11:55:04 OF MY FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS SO FAR.
11:55:05 MAYBE MORE TO COME.
11:55:10 AND THE OTHER POINT, AND LUIS, I LOVE THE FACT YOU USE
11:55:13 THE WORD "VICARIOUS LIABILITY."
11:55:17 WHICH IN YOUR WORLD OF INSURANCE AND THAT SORT OF
11:55:18 THING.
11:55:20 BUT LET'S SIMPLIFY.
11:55:24 AM I RESPONSIBLE -- SHOULD THE ENTIRE FAMILY BE
11:55:27 RESPONSIBLE AND SUFFER AN EVICTION OR EVEN A POTENTIAL
11:55:30 EN VINGS ENCOURAGED BY THE GOVERNMENT, OKAY, BECAUSE
11:55:32 ONE OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS, WHETHER OR NOT IT IS A KID,
11:55:42 AN ADULT, NO MATTER WHO IT IS, OKAY, HAS GONE BAD.
11:55:44 IF THEY ARE ARRESTED, FINE.
11:55:45 LET THEM GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
11:55:49 IF THEY ARE CONVICTED, FINE.
11:55:50 OKAY.
11:55:53 IF THEY ARE CONVICTED, THEN IT BECOMES PUBLIC RECORD,
11:55:54 OKAY.
11:55:58 WHAT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX DO WITH THAT, THAT IS THEIR
11:55:59 OWN BUSINESS.
11:56:02 GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN ENCOURAGING
11:56:05 EVICTIONS OF THE REST OF THIS FAMILY BECAUSE OF THAT
11:56:08 ARREST OR THE -- AND OR CONVICTION.
11:56:10 THE REST OF THE FAMILY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SUFFER.
11:56:13 BECAUSE WHAT ARE WE DOING?
11:56:15 WE ARE JUST MOVING THE PROBLEM AROUND.
11:56:17 SOMEBODY -- MR. CARLSON ASKED THE QUESTION.
11:56:18 WHERE DO THEY GO?
11:56:21 WHERE DO THEY GO WHEN THEY COME OUT OF HERE?
11:56:27 DO THEY END UP IN SUITCASE CITY IN A LESSER -- IN A
11:56:29 COMPLEX OR SOME WORSE CONDITION?
11:56:31 DO THEY END UP ON THE STREETS?
11:56:33 THAT DOESN'T HELP ANYBODY.
11:56:39 THE BOTTOM LINE IS -- AND I KNOW YOU ARE TAKING THE
11:56:43 HEAT ON A LOT OF THIS, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE ON THIS IS,
11:56:44 WE TALK ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.
11:56:47 AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US KNOW WHAT THIS
11:56:49 PROGRAM -- WHAT IS LEFT OF THIS PROGRAM.
11:56:50 YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
11:56:53 WHAT IS LEFT OF THIS PROGRAM?
11:56:56 SO MR. CARLSON, YOU SAID YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A
11:56:56 MOTION.
11:57:00 I WILL SIT AND WAIT AND HEAR, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD GET
11:57:05 TPD AN OPPORTUNITY TO -- I WILL SAY 30 TO 60 DAYS TO
11:57:08 REFINE ALL OF THIS PUBLIC INPUT.
11:57:11 MR. CHAIRMAN, ONE MORE MINUTE.
11:57:13 TO REFINE ALL OF THIS PUBLIC INPUT.
11:57:17 TO REFINE THE INPUT THAT YOU ARE GET FROM CITY COUNCIL,
11:57:18 OKAY.
11:57:20 AND THIS IS NATIONWIDE.
11:57:22 SOMEBODY MENTION THIS IS NATIONWIDE.
11:57:24 I HAVE BEEN GETTING E-MAILS --
11:57:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TALK ABOUT IT.
11:57:27 I HEAR WHAT THE COUNCIL IS SAYING.
11:57:32 I NEED CONCERNS THAT I NEED TO CHIME IN.
11:57:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ABSOLUTELY.
11:57:34 BUT TO TAKE ALL OF THIS.
11:57:36 YOU GUYS ARE ALL ABOUT THE DATA.
11:57:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ABSOLUTELY, BUT TO TAKE ALL OF THIS --
11:57:38 YOU GUYS ARE ALL ABOUT THE DATA AND YOU LIKE TO ANALYZE
11:57:41 THINGS, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:57:42 I SAY LET'S GIVE TPD 30 OR 60 DAYS TO REFINE ALL THIS
11:57:45 INFORMATION, TO TAKE ALL THIS DATA, TAKE ALL THIS INPUT AND
11:57:48 COME BACK WITH A NEW PROGRAM.
11:57:50 AND THE LAST THING I MENTIONED, BUTCH, TO YOU AND OTHERS ON
11:57:53 STAFF IS, LET'S GET RID OF THAT MONIKER "CRIME-FREE."
11:57:58 BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES IS IT TIES US BACK TO THE PROGRAM OUT
11:58:02 WEST.
11:58:02 AND THAT PROGRAM OUT WEST IS TAINTED.
11:58:04 THAT PROGRAM OUT WEST IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE JUST BECAUSE
11:58:07 TAMPA THINKS IT SHOULD CHANGE OR A FEW OTHER COMMUNITIES
11:58:10 THINK IT'S GOING TO CHANGE.
11:58:11 LET'S DIVEST OURSELVES FROM THE "CRIME-FREE" NAME AND FIND A
11:58:15 NEW NAME FOR A NEW PROGRAM THAT FOCUSES ON LIGHTING AND
11:58:22 BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN THE APARTMENTS, AND ALL THE
11:58:25 POSITIVE THINGS THAT YOU SPOKE TO EARLIER, BUTCH, BECAUSE
11:58:29 I'M ALL ABOUT THE POSITIVE THINGS.
11:58:30 BUT LET'S GET RID OF THE NEGATIVE.
11:58:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
11:58:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:58:36 I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE IN THE HELL TO START.
11:58:38 I MEAN, NO ONE -- I COULD SAY THIS.
11:58:45 I GOT MY EDUCATION OUT ON THE STREET.
11:58:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ABSOLUTELY, I UNDERSTAND THAT ONE.
11:58:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS RAISED IN THE TAMPA HOUSING
11:58:51 PROJECT.
11:58:51 IN PONCE De LEON.
11:58:53 AND I REALLY ENJOYED THE 14 OR 15 YEARS THAT I WAS THERE.
11:58:58 WE HAD A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES.
11:59:00 YOUR PARENTS BEAT THE HELL OUT OF YOU IF YOU DID SOMETHING
11:59:04 WRONG.
11:59:04 >> YES, SIR, YES, SIR.
11:59:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
11:59:06 NUMBER TWO, SNITCHING, WE DIDN'T USE THE WORD "SNITCHING."
11:59:12 WE JUST GOT EVEN.
11:59:13 NUMBER THREE YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME RULES AND SOME RESPECT
11:59:19 WHEN YOU LIVE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVING
11:59:22 IN THAT PROXIMITY WHERE YOU LIVE AT, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE
11:59:26 NOW, WHICH IS WHY SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE GONE DOWN,
11:59:30 THE HOUSES LOOKING NORMAL, WHERE AN INDIVIDUAL IN THE MIDDLE
11:59:32 CLASS CAN LIVE WITHOUT THE CLOSE CONFINES OF SOMEBODY ELSE.
11:59:35 NUMBER FOUR, I REMEMBER THE PROJECT MANAGER NAME HADED MR.
11:59:44 HEGARTY.
11:59:45 HE WAS A RETIRED SHERIFF'S DEPUTY OR SOMEWHERE UP IN THE
11:59:48 CHAIN OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
11:59:49 AND THE LITTLE GUY NAMED LOUIS WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF KEEPING
11:59:53 EVERYBODY HAPPY AND DOING THE RIGHT THING.
11:59:56 AND I REMEMBER ON THURSDAY NIGHTS AT THE HOUSING PROJECTS AT
11:59:59 THE OFFICE ON 18th AND 26th AVENUE, THEY HAVE MOVIES FOR
12:00:03 YOU.
12:00:03 AND THEY GAVE YOU AN ICE CREAM OR AN ICICLE OR SOMETHING SO
12:00:07 YOU COULD COME IN AND THEY COULD TALK TO YOU AND YOU SEE A
12:00:10 MOVIE OF SOME SORT.
12:00:11 THAT WAS BEFORE EVEN TV JUST ABOUT.
12:00:13 SO I WAS HIGHLY EDUCATED.
12:00:20 YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SMART TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
12:00:24 YOU SEE, WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG, IT AIN'T WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
12:00:28 IT'S WHAT YOU SEE OTHERS DO WHEN YOU'RE GROWING UP THAT YOU
12:00:30 WANT TO DO BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE A BANK ROLL AND YOU AIN'T
12:00:33 GOT TWO CENTS TO DO SOMETHING, YOU WANT TO DO THE SAME THING
12:00:36 THEY'RE DOING.
12:00:37 AND THERE'S WHERE THE PROBLEM COMES IN.
12:00:39 WE TALK ALL ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
12:00:41 WE TALK ABOUT THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE.
12:00:43 THERE ARE RIGHTS AND THERE REALLY IS NO RIGHTS.
12:00:45 I REMEMBER WHEN -- AND EVEN MR. MOORE AND GOOD PEOPLE
12:00:50 WORKING AT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY NOW DON'T REALIZE WHAT
12:00:52 HAPPENED BACK IN THE '50s, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, IF YOUR
12:00:56 LAWN WASN'T MOWED, THIS IS NOT ABOUT DRUGS, THEY GAVE YOU
12:01:00 NOTICE TO MOW YOUR LAWN.
12:01:01 SOUNDS LIKE A NORMAL THING.
12:01:05 ONLY ONE THING: WE DIDN'T HAVE LAWN MOWERS.
12:01:08 WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T HAVE GAS LAWN MOWERS.
12:01:10 I HAVE TO GO TO MY SKATES, GO TO MY GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE,
12:01:14 PICK UP A LAWN MOWER, PUT IT BEHIND ME AND ROLL IT TO 26th
12:01:18 AND 20th TO MOW THE LAWN.
12:01:20 SO THOSE SET OF RULES THAT YOU HAVE FOLLOWED --
12:01:24 THE SAME THING APPLIES TODAY.
12:01:26 NOT ABOUT LIBERAL OR STRICT.
12:01:28 IT'S ABOUT WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S WRONG.
12:01:30 AND BETWEEN THOSE TWO THINGS, THE FEDS -- IN FACT, THE
12:01:33 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ANTIDRUG.
12:01:36 REMEMBER THAT?
12:01:36 THE DRUG KING, THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER.
12:01:38 THEY DIDN'T ALLOW YOU TO SMOKE MARIJUANA.
12:01:41 NOW THEY ARE SELLING IT TO YOU TO MAKE MORE PROFIT.
12:01:43 SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING, AND THIS RIDICULOUS EARTH
12:01:47 THAT WE LIVE IN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DESTROY LITTLE BY
12:01:50 LITTLE ONE DAY AT A TIME.
12:01:52 SO WE'RE JUST AS BAD AS ANY ANIMAL ON THE EARTH.
12:01:57 WE CREATE THINGS, SHOOT THINGS, WE DIDN'T HAVE GUNS, BUT
12:02:01 GUNS THEN WAS SOMETHING NO ONE COULD HAVE OTHER THAN THOSE
12:02:05 THAT WERE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SUCH AND PEOPLE THAT CAN
12:02:07 AFFORD TO BUY THEM.
12:02:08 THERE WAS NEVER A LAW THAT SAYS YOU COULD BUY A GUN.
12:02:13 PROBLEM IS, NOBODY HAD THE MONEY TO BUY ONE.
12:02:15 NOW YOU HAVE GUN SHOWS.
12:02:16 I DON'T REMEMBER NO GUN SHOW GROWING UP.
12:02:18 ALSO, REMEMBER NO VIOLENCE ON TV, ALSO REMEMBERED NO
12:02:22 VIOLENCE ON SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE NOW, YOUR PHONE,
12:02:26 EVERYWHERE YOU TURN, THE KIDS ARE BEING RAISED TO SEE PEOPLE
12:02:30 DIE.
12:02:31 YOU CAN BUY ONE OF THOSE LITTLE THINGS YOU PLAY ON THE TV,
12:02:34 AND EVERYBODY DIES BUT YOU.
12:02:38 SO YOU'RE GROWING UP IN THIS WORLD THAT'S CONFUSING TO YOU,
12:02:42 SO YOU GO BUY A GUN.
12:02:44 BUT WHEN YOU'RE A KID, YOU MEMORIZE EVERYBODY YOU SHOT.
12:02:47 GO UP THE NEXT DAY PLAYING AROUND AGAIN.
12:02:50 LITTLE MINIATURE THINGS.
12:02:51 MICKEY MOUSE, DONALD DUCK, THEY DIDN'T FIGHT.
12:02:53 A LOT OF THINGS ON TV TODAY, AND WE'RE MISSING THE POINT ON
12:02:58 WHY PEOPLE HAVE GUNS.
12:03:01 THEY HAVE GUNS BECAUSE THE YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE GUNS, GREW UP
12:03:04 BEING A GUN OWNER.
12:03:05 IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT, THEY'LL STEAL IT OR BUY IT OFF OF
12:03:08 SOMEBODY ELSE WHO STOLE THE GUN.
12:03:10 WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE ANYBODY DOES ANYTHING IS WRONG.
12:03:17 WHAT DOES ANYBODY DO THAT'S RIGHT?
12:03:18 THE LAW THAT I GREW UP IN, YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER WERE THE
12:03:24 LAWYERS.
12:03:24 YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER WAS THE DOCTOR.
12:03:26 YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER WAS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
12:03:29 AND YOUR FAMILY WAS THE JURY.
12:03:34 AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, BY THE TIME I DID SOMETHING
12:03:36 WRONG OR THE TIME I GOT HOME, MY AUNT, MY MOTHER, MY UNCLE,
12:03:40 MY COUSIN, EVERYBODY KNEW ABOUT IT, EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE
12:03:43 NO CELL PHONES.
12:03:44 SO IF I HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:03:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:03:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL
12:03:50 RIGHTS, WHAT ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE THAT LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THE
12:03:53 DRUG DEALER OR WHATEVER HE IS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW FOR
12:03:56 EVICTION, WHAT RIGHTS DO THEY HAVE?
12:03:58 WHAT RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED BY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE,
12:04:03 FOUR, FIVE-YEAR-OLD, AND HE SEES A BANK ROLL, COUPLE HUNDRED
12:04:07 DOLLARS, WHATEVER, AND HE AIN'T GOT A DIME TO GO BUY
12:04:10 ANYTHING.
12:04:11 WHAT DO YOU THINK HE OR SHE WILL DO?
12:04:13 HOW IS SHE GOING TO RAISE?
12:04:17 WHAT YOU SEE AND HEAR IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE GROWING UP
12:04:19 IN SOME POINT OR FORM.
12:04:21 THAT'S ALL THEY SEE?
12:04:23 WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY ARE GOING TO DO?
12:04:24 WE'RE FESTERING THE NEXT GENERATION TO DO THE SAME THING OF
12:04:28 SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WE DON'T WANT THEM TO DO.
12:04:29 BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
12:04:30 YOU GOT ELECTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
12:04:37 MAY BE THE WRONG THING.
12:04:38 NO ONE CAN SAVE WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S WRONG OTHER THAN ONE
12:04:43 WORD -- PARENTING.
12:04:44 AND IF YOU, THE PARENTS, CAN'T HANDLE THE KID, HOW IS THE
12:04:48 OFFICER OR HOW IS THE CITY GOING TO HANDLE THE KID WHEN YOU
12:04:51 YOURSELF HAVE THEM ALL THE TIME AND THEY ARE UNCONTROLLABLE.
12:04:55 I REMEMBER MY FATHER GAVE ME A DIME AND I ASKED HIM, WHAT'S
12:04:58 THE DIME FOR, DADDY?
12:04:59 HAD HE SAID, IF YOU GET IN TROUBLE, CALL SOMEBODY ELSE.
12:05:02 AND THAT SET THE TONE.
12:05:03 THE PROBLEM IS TODAY, WE'RE TOO CONSERVATIVE OR TOO DAMN
12:05:09 LIBERAL AND THE LADIES OR THE GUYS IN THE MIDDLE ARE
12:05:12 FORGOTTEN.
12:05:13 THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IN SOCIETY.
12:05:15 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:05:16 I COULD GO ON A WEEK AND A HALF, BUT I WON'T.
12:05:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, I ALWAYS LIKE TO LISTEN TO SOMEONE
12:05:20 WHO HAS SOME KNOWLEDGE.
12:05:21 I TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLY EXPERIENCE.
12:05:24 WHEN MR. MIRANDA TALKED ABOUT KANGAROO COURT.
12:05:32 REMEMBER HOW THE OLD BELMONT HEIGHTS AND COLLEGE HILL
12:05:35 APARTMENTS WERE, WAR ZONE.
12:05:38 MS. CHLOE CONEY CAME IN AND CHANGED THE DYNAMICS OF BELMONT
12:05:44 HEIGHTS ESTATES NOW.
12:05:45 SO YOU HAVE TO BE ON THE GROUND ZERO TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT
12:05:49 REALLY WORKS.
12:05:51 I BROKE MY FOOT, MR. MIRANDA, JUMPING A FENCE.
12:05:55 I WORKED IN ROBLES PARK.
12:05:57 WHEN I SEE THOSE OLD LADIES THERE, WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON
12:06:00 THOSE CORNERS AND THE FAMILY NEXT TO THEM AND THE MOM OR DAD
12:06:04 AND THE MOM KNOWS THAT HER KIDS ARE DOING ALL KIND OF
12:06:06 TREACHEROUS AND DANGEROUS THINGS, BUT YET IT AFFECTS THE
12:06:10 PEOPLE NEXT DOOR WHEN THEY CAN'T COME OUTSIDE OR THE KIDS
12:06:17 CAN'T GO TO THE BUS STOP BECAUSE THE BULLY HOUSE RIGHT
12:06:20 THERE, THEY ARE BEATING UP ALL THE KIDS AS THEY COME HOME.
12:06:23 I DON'T WANT THEM IN THERE.
12:06:26 I WANT THEM OUT.
12:06:27 KIDS AND ALL BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BEING PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS
12:06:30 IN THAT COMMUNITY.
12:06:31 PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT'S A RIGHT TO HAVE HOUSING AND A
12:06:34 PRIVILEGE.
12:06:35 YEAH, IT'S A RIGHT TO HAVE HOUSING.
12:06:38 EVERYONE DESERVES HOUSING.
12:06:39 BUT WHEN YOU GET IT AND LIVE THERE, IT'S A PRIVILEGE NOW AT
12:06:42 THAT POINT THAT YOU KEEP AND DO THE RIGHT THING AS A CITIZEN
12:06:44 AND FOLLOW THE RULES.
12:06:45 IT AIN'T ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING DRUGS.
12:06:47 THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT COME ALONG WITH THAT.
12:06:50 THEY ARE NOT GOOD STEWARDS TO THEIR LEASING.
12:06:53 THEY ARE NOT DOING WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THEIR
12:06:56 LEASE.
12:06:56 IT AIN'T JUST THE POLICE GOING THERE.
12:06:58 I UNDERSTAND THERE WERE ISSUES.
12:06:59 THEY KEPT FIXING AND FIXING THEM.
12:07:01 BUT WHAT I'M HEARING NOW IS THEY HAVE NO PART OF THE
12:07:03 EVICTION PROCESS.
12:07:04 IT'S STRICTLY ON THE LANDLORD WHO IS HANDLING THE EVICTION
12:07:08 PROCESS.
12:07:09 MR. DINGFELDER, TO YOUR POINT, RIGHT.
12:07:11 THE HOUSING HAS TOLD US WHAT THEIR PROCESS IS.
12:07:14 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER 30 HOUSING PROPERTY DEVELOPERS
12:07:17 HAVE, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW, THAT'S THEIR LEASE.
12:07:20 AND IF I'M A PROPERTY OWNER, IT'S MY RIGHT, MY LEASE.
12:07:23 AND I COULD PUT WHAT I WANT IN MY LEASE.
12:07:25 NO DIFFERENT IF YOU OWNED THE HOUSE, MR. VIERA, AND IT'S
12:07:29 YOUR HOUSE AND YOU HAVE CERTAIN RULES THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING
12:07:31 TO HAVE PEOPLE DOING CERTAIN THINGS AT YOUR HOUSE IN YOUR
12:07:33 LEASE.
12:07:34 NOW, WHAT I UNDERSTAND, MR. DELGADO, WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO
12:07:38 WITH ANY LEASES OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES, IS THAT CORRECT,
12:07:41 SIR?
12:07:42 >>RUBEN DELGADO: THAT'S CORRECT.
12:07:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE'RE NOT ENCOURAGING ANY EVICTIONS ON ANY
12:07:46 APARTMENT COMPLEX VIA PUBLIC OR PRIVATE, CORRECT?
12:07:48 >>RUBEN DELGADO: CORRECT.
12:07:49 THAT WAS THE LETTER THAT WENT OUT IN 2018.
12:07:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO I HEAR YOU, GENTLEMEN, AND I RESPECT
12:07:54 THAT, AND I RESPECT THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR A 90-DAY LOOK AND
12:07:58 EVALUATION OF THE PROGRAM SO IF THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD AN
12:08:01 ISSUE BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING -- AND I DON'T KNOW IF LEGAL
12:08:03 IS LISTENING -- WE DO NOT HAVE AN ORDINANCE.
12:08:06 IT IS STRICTLY A PROGRAM THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAME UP
12:08:08 WITH.
12:08:08 THAT IS MY AWNING.
12:08:09 SO THERE'S NO CITY ORDINANCE.
12:08:10 I'M NOT FOR KILLING THE PROGRAM THAT I KNOW CAN HELP SOME
12:08:16 APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
12:08:17 I'VE HAD NUMEROUS CALLS FROM A LOT OF LANDLORDS SAYING THAT
12:08:22 WE HAVE NO REFUGE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOTHING IN PLACE.
12:08:26 WERE SOME OF THE THINGS BAD?
12:08:28 MAYBE SO.
12:08:28 WERE SOME PEOPLE TAKEN ADVANTAGE BECAUSE OF THAT?
12:08:31 MAYBE SO.
12:08:32 BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RECOGNIZES THAT.
12:08:33 I DON'T ENCOURAGE ANY FAMILY TO BE KICKED OUT ANYWHERE.
12:08:37 BUT IF I GOT A HOUSE THAT A FAMILY IS TERRORIZING THAT
12:08:42 COMMUNITY, THEY'VE LOST THEIR PRIVILEGE TO LIVE THERE.
12:08:45 WE GAVE THEM THE RIGHT TO HAVE A PLACE.
12:08:49 I'M SORRY.
12:08:50 I'M SORRY, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY HAVING
12:08:54 SOMEBODY TERRORIZING PEOPLE.
12:08:55 I GOT SENIOR CITIZENS COME HERE.
12:08:57 I UNDERSTAND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
12:08:58 THEY DO THAT.
12:08:59 WHEN THEY HAVE AN ISSUE, THEY BRING PEOPLE, THOSE FOLKS,
12:09:01 THEY DON'T HAVE CARS.
12:09:02 SO THEY BROUGHT THOSE PEOPLE.
12:09:04 BE IT RIGHT OR WRONG, THOSE PEOPLE WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK.
12:09:08 THEY HAVE THE CHOICE OF SAYING I DON'T WANT TO COME TO SPEAK
12:09:11 OR I DO.
12:09:12 THAT WAS THEIR CHOICE.
12:09:13 ENCOURAGED OR NOT, THEY CHOSE TO COME BEFORE US.
12:09:17 NO DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO CAME VOLUNTARILY WITH
12:09:19 FLORIDA RISING, WHICH ARE VERY GOOD FRIENDS OF MINE.
12:09:22 I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS AND ISSUES.
12:09:26 I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF SOME OF THOSE HERE AS WELL.
12:09:28 I STILL ATTEST IT IS A RIGHT TO HAVE HOUSING.
12:09:31 WE HAVE SOME CHALLENGES IN OUR CITY TO PROVIDE HOUSING.
12:09:34 THAT'S WHY THIS COUNCIL TELL THE ADMINISTRATION WE WANT MORE
12:09:37 MONEY GOING TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
12:09:38 PERIOD.
12:09:39 GET PEOPLE IN HOUSING.
12:09:41 BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, PEOPLE HAVE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF
12:09:45 THEIR HOUSING.
12:09:45 NO DIFFERENT IF YOU LIVE ON THE STREET.
12:09:47 THERE'S NO PERSON ON THIS COUNCIL, IF THEY ARE -- WE'VE HAD
12:09:50 TWO HOUSES ON A BLOCK THEY LIVED ON THAT WOULD TOLERATE
12:09:55 ANYBODY DOING MISCHIEVOUS WITH THE LANDLORD BECAUSE THEY
12:09:58 WOULD BE RAISING HELL WITH THE LANDLORD TO GET THE PEOPLE
12:10:00 OUT.
12:10:01 FAMILY AND ALL.
12:10:01 FAMILY AND ALL.
12:10:02 GET THEM OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:10:04 GET THEM OFF OF OUR BLOCK.
12:10:05 THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE THAN THOSE APARTMENT COMPLEXES WHO
12:10:08 ARE SAYING, WE'RE TIRED OF THIS GROUP.
12:10:10 THEY NEED TO GO.
12:10:11 BUT DUE PROCESS, MR. DINGFELDER, WHICH YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY
12:10:17 CORRECT.
12:10:17 IF YOU'RE ARRESTED.
12:10:18 YOU'RE RIGHT, I HAVE A RIGHT TO DUE PROCESS.
12:10:22 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT IN THAT.
12:10:24 NOTIFIED, PERSON WAS ARRESTED.
12:10:27 WHAT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX DOES IS THEIR BUSINESS.
12:10:30 GOVERNMENT IS NOT INVOLVED AT THAT POINT, MY UNDERSTANDING.
12:10:32 RIGHT, CHIEF DELGADO?
12:10:33 >>RUBEN DELGADO: YOU'RE CORRECT, SIR.
12:10:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BASICALLY, WE GIVE NOTICE.
12:10:36 THEY WERE ARRESTED ON PROPERTY.
12:10:37 THE LANDLORD DOES WHATEVER.
12:10:39 THEY VIOLATE THEIR LEASE WITH THE LANDLORD, THAT AIN'T GOT
12:10:42 NOTHING TO DO WITH TPD AT ALL.
12:10:44 >>RUBEN DELGADO: CORRECT.
12:10:45 I THINK WE HEARD FROM HUD EXPLAIN THAT, THAT'S NOT THE SOLE
12:10:51 REASON FOR ANY OF THE EVICTIONS.
12:10:53 I'M HEARING A LOT ABOUT NOTICE OF ARREST AND BEING THE
12:10:55 CATALYST TO THE EVICTIONS.
12:10:56 I THINK WE'RE MAKING A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS HERE BASED ON THAT
12:11:00 ARTICLE THAT AREN'T JUST -- WE TALK ABOUT BEING DATA DRIVEN.
12:11:03 WE ARE A DATA DRIVEN AGENCY.
12:11:05 WE'VE REDUCED CRIME TREMENDOUSLY IN THE CITY BY FOCUSING ON
12:11:08 DATA.
12:11:08 WHAT I HAVEN'T SEEN IS THE ASSUMPTIONS MADE IN THAT ARTICLE
12:11:10 ABOUT THESE NOTICES OF ARRESTS ARE DIRECT CAUSES OF
12:11:14 EVICTIONS.
12:11:15 I HAVEN'T SEEN THE DATA ON THAT SIDE OF IT THAT THAT'S THE
12:11:18 SOLE REASON WHY SOMEBODY GOT EVICTED.
12:11:20 AGAIN, IT'S SIMPLY A PUBLIC RECORD DOCUMENT WE'RE PROVIDING
12:11:23 THE LANDLORDS AND THE MANAGERS OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
12:11:26 TO YOUR POINT, SIR, IT'S JUST ONE TOOL THAT THEY USE TO MAKE
12:11:29 THEIR OWN DECISIONS.
12:11:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT I WILL SAY AS IT RELATES TO IT ALL IS
12:11:33 THAT IN MY ORIGINAL LETTER TO THE MAYOR, I THINK EVERYONE
12:11:38 NEEDS TO BE AT THE TABLE.
12:11:39 I KNOW SOME COUNCILMEN HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROGRAM,
12:11:44 BUT I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME FORMAL PROGRAM TO BE ABLE
12:11:47 TO HELP CITIZENS, THE LANDLORDS AS WELL.
12:11:52 WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING.
12:11:53 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SOMETHING TOTALLY IS AT THIS
12:11:56 PARTICULAR POINT.
12:11:58 UNTIL ALL MINDS COME TOGETHER AND COME OUT IN ALL
12:12:01 COMMUNITIES AND ALL APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
12:12:04 KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE AND KNOW HOW WE OPERATE.
12:12:07 NOW, HOW THEY OPERATE, WE CAN'T CONTROL SOME OF THE THINGS
12:12:09 THEY DO, BUT WE CAN CONTROL WHAT WE MAY PUT OUT OR THE
12:12:12 INFORMATION THAT WE MAY PROVIDE.
12:12:13 THAT'S GOING TO LEAVE IT MY COMMENTS RIGHT NOW AND MY
12:12:19 CONCERNS.
12:12:20 I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO SOME OF THE MOTIONS.
12:12:24 IN MY MIND, I PRETTY MUCH KNOW WHERE I THINK IT NEEDS TO GO
12:12:27 TO GET THIS THING MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR ALL.
12:12:30 I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY -- I'LL GO WITH ROUND TWO OR IF WE WANT
12:12:33 TO WRAP THIS UP.
12:12:34 IT'S 12, OR IF WE WANT TO GO ENTERTAIN MOTIONS WITH POSSIBLE
12:12:37 AMENDMENTS.
12:12:38 MR. CARLSON HAD HIS HAND FIRST.
12:12:41 I WILL LOOK -- IF THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS TO DO AT THIS TIME.
12:12:46 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:12:47 THERE ARE A LOT OF MOTIONS THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE.
12:12:49 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT
12:12:54 LEGAL STAFF RETURN TO CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 4th WITH A
12:12:59 DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT WOULD SAY SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF
12:13:03 THE FOLLOWING: NO CITY STAFF PERSON MAY BE INVOLVED IN ANY
12:13:09 PART OF THE PROCESS OF EVICTING A RESIDENT OF AN APARTMENT
12:13:13 OR DWELLING BASED ON THE CRIME OF ANOTHER PERSON IN THAT
12:13:16 HOUSEHOLD.
12:13:16 NO CITY STAFF PERSON MAY BE INVOLVED IN ANY PART OF THE
12:13:23 PROCESS OF EVICTING A RESIDENT OF AN APARTMENT OR DWELLING
12:13:27 BASED ON THE CRIME OF ANOTHER PERSON IN THAT HOUSEHOLD.
12:13:30 THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO PROTECT INNOCENT PEOPLE.
12:13:32 IF YOU'RE PRESENTING PowerPoint SLIDES THAT TELL LANDLORDS
12:13:35 TO WEED PEOPLE OUT, THEN YOU'RE IN EFFECT INVOLVED IN THE
12:13:43 PROCESS IN SOME WAY.
12:13:44 MAYBE WE STRENGTHEN THE CHARTER WHEN SEVERAL OF US ARE ON
12:13:47 THE CHARTER COMMITTEE A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT WE HAVE TO
12:13:50 PROTECT INNOCENT PEOPLE.
12:13:52 SEVERAL PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY,
12:13:55 EVEN IF A CHILD IN THE HOUSE WAS PROVEN GUILTY, THE REST OF
12:13:58 THE FAMILY WAS NEVER CHARGED WITH ANYTHING.
12:14:00 IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE REST OF THE FAMILY THAT THAT HAPPENS.
12:14:03 IT IS UP TO THE LANDLORDS ULTIMATELY TO MAKE THE DECISION.
12:14:07 ALL THIS IS SAYING IS THAT THE CITY STAFF, AND NOT JUST
12:14:10 POLICE, BUT CITY STAFF SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS
12:14:12 OF KICKING OUT INNOCENT PEOPLE.
12:14:14 THANK YOU.
12:14:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I SPEAK?
12:14:17 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:14:18 I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. CARLSON IS SAYING, BUT I CAN'T SUPPORT
12:14:20 THAT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE SAYING THAT NO CITY EMPLOYEE CAN GET
12:14:24 FIRED BECAUSE THE FAMILY CAN'T SURVIVE.
12:14:27 I CAN'T DO THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY EMPLOYEE
12:14:31 THAT GOT TERMINATED FOR WHATEVER CAN'T BE TERMINATED BECAUSE
12:14:34 HE HAS A FAMILY TO RAISE.
12:14:35 I CAN'T FIX THE WORLD.
12:14:37 I CAN ONLY TELL THE WORLD WHAT I THINK HAS TO BE DONE.
12:14:40 WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF RULES AND REGULATIONS AS TO
12:14:45 WHERE YOU'RE AT.
12:14:46 IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR RENT OR IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR
12:14:48 MORTGAGE, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE YOUR HOUSE.
12:14:51 YOU CAN'T SAY YOU CAN'T TAKE THE HOUSE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE
12:14:53 ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE.
12:14:55 I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.
12:14:56 SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, WE MUST HAVE SOME GUIDELINES --
12:14:59 [ENCODER DROP]
12:15:02 -- ONLY TWO HALVES AND A QUARTER AND THREE PERIODS IN A
12:15:27 HOCKEY GAME.
12:15:28 YOU CAN'T JUST SAY I'M GOING TO CHANGE THAT BECAUSE I WANT
12:15:30 TO.
12:15:31 THERE ARE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT YOU PLAY WITHIN.
12:15:33 THERE ARE PENALTIES IN ANY SPORT THERE IS -- I'M NOT
12:15:39 COMPARING THIS TO A SPORTING EVENT.
12:15:41 I'M SAYING IF YOU SPEAR SOMEBODY WITH A HELMET YOU ARE
12:15:44 EJECTED, FOR THE NEXT GAME ALSO.
12:15:46 THERE ARE PENALTIES THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY THE CONSEQUENCES
12:15:48 FOR WHAT SOMEONE DOES.
12:15:50 I CANNOT SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE A RULES AND
12:15:53 REGULATIONS WITH PENALTIES INVOLVED BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE
12:15:55 QUAY I DON'T SAY IN THE HUMAN RACE.
12:15:58 SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE THERE HAS TO BE A GUIDELINE ON WHAT
12:16:01 THE FACTS ARE.
12:16:02 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.
12:16:05 THERE HAS TO BE CONSENSUS TO THE MIDDLE AND FIND OUT EXACTLY
12:16:11 WHERE WE'RE HEADING IN WHAT DIRECTION.
12:16:13 I UNDERSTAND HE'S DOING IT FOR THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE AND
12:16:16 I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, BUT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE,
12:16:19 SOMEBODY HAS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTION.
12:16:21 AND IF YOU KNOW GOING IN WHAT THE ACTIONS ARE AND SOMEBODY
12:16:24 DOES IT WRONG, THEN YOU VIOLATED THE ACTION.
12:16:27 YOU VIOLATED THE RULE.
12:16:28 YOU VIOLATED THE FACTS.
12:16:29 YOU KNOW, IF YOU SPEED, THEY CAN'T CATCH ALL SPEEDERS.
12:16:34 CATCH YOU ONE TIME, YOU SAY, OH, YOU CAUGHT ME -- NO, NO,
12:16:37 YOU'VE BEEN SPEEDING ALL YOUR LIFE.
12:16:39 THEY JUST CAUGHT YOU FOR ONE TIME.
12:16:41 BUT THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IN SOCIETY.
12:16:42 I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT A MOTION THAT DOESN'T HAVE SOMETHING
12:16:45 WITH PENALTIES.
12:16:45 THANK YOU.
12:16:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
12:16:50 FOLLOW THE RULES OF ORDER.
12:16:51 IS THERE A SECOND FOR MR. CARLSON?
12:16:55 QUESTION ON THE MOTION.
12:16:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION,
12:17:02 SPECIFICALLY.
12:17:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THE ROBERT'S RULES IS HE HAS A
12:17:05 MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
12:17:06 IS THERE A SECOND ON THE MOTION TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION FOR
12:17:08 THE MOTION?
12:17:08 MR. MANISCALCO HAS SECONDED IT TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION.
12:17:15 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
12:17:16 SAW MR. VIERA'S HAND.
12:17:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CARLSON, I THINK PHILOSOPHICALLY I
12:17:23 AGREE WITH THE DIRECTION YOU'RE HEADED.
12:17:25 PROCEDURALLY, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARY.
12:17:31 I THINK THE PROGRAM WAS NOT GOOD PRIOR TO 2018.
12:17:38 I THINK IT'S BEEN IMPROVED AFTER 2018.
12:17:41 I THINK IT'S BEEN IMPROVED NOW.
12:17:43 SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, INSTEAD OF US GOING TO THE
12:17:51 PROCESS OF ACTUALLY DRAFTING SORT OF A BLACK-AND-WHITE
12:17:55 ORDINANCE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- AND I'LL MAKE AN
12:17:57 ALTERNATIVE MOTION THAT TPD RETURN TO CITY COUNCIL DURING
12:18:01 STAFF REPORTS ON DECEMBER 2nd, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 60
12:18:05 DAYS, AND COME UP AND IN WRITING, OKAY, VERY FORMAL, IN
12:18:12 WRITING, JUST LIKE THEY DO ON SO MANY OTHER PROGRAMS, WHAT
12:18:15 THE NEW PROGRAM -- WHAT'S LEFT.
12:18:18 WHAT'S LEFT OF THIS PROGRAM.
12:18:21 AND AS I SAID EARLIER, I'D LOVE US TO RID OUR NAMES OF
12:18:24 CRIME-FREE.
12:18:25 I DON'T WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT OTHER GROUP, BECAUSE
12:18:28 I THINK THEY ARE TAINTED.
12:18:29 BUT THAT'S NOT EVEN PART OF MY MOTION.
12:18:31 I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU GUYS.
12:18:32 BUT MY MOTION IS FOR TPD TO TAKE ALL OF THIS INPUT, RETURN
12:18:36 TO CITY COUNCIL DURING STAFF REPORTS, PROBABLY TAKE MORE
12:18:40 THAN FIVE MINUTES, ON DECEMBER 2nd TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON
12:18:46 WHAT WE HAVE LEFT AND WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT.
12:18:49 AT THAT POINT IN TIME, MR. CARLSON, IF WE'RE NOT SATISFIED
12:18:54 WITH THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AND THE CHANGES THAT
12:18:57 WILL BE MADE AND THE FUTURE OVERSIGHT AND ANYTHING ELSE LIKE
12:19:02 THAT, THEN I THINK YOUR MOTION -- I'LL SECOND AND SUPPORT
12:19:08 YOUR MOTION, IF I'M NOT SATISFIED WITH WHERE THEY ARE.
12:19:12 BUT I BELIEVE IN THE SPIRIT OF COOPERATION THAT WE GIVE THEM
12:19:15 A CHANCE TO TAKE ALL OF THIS INPUT AND MASSAGE IT AND COME
12:19:22 OUT WITH A MUCH BETTER PRODUCT THAN EVERYBODY IN THE
12:19:25 COMMUNITY WILL BE HAPPY WITH.
12:19:28 AND, FRANKLY, THOSE TWO ISSUES THAT LUIS, GUIDO AND BILL
12:19:35 TALKED ABOUT, THAT THIS WOULD BE ARREST DRIVEN INSTEAD OF
12:19:38 CONVICTION DRIVEN I THINK IS WRONG.
12:19:40 AND I HOPE THAT'S FIXED.
12:19:42 AND THEN THE OTHER PART ABOUT THE VICARIOUS LIABILITY, THAT
12:19:45 THE FAMILY COULD GO DOWN.
12:19:48 AND, MR. CHAIRMAN, LET ME GO TO YOUR POINT FOR A SECOND.
12:19:52 IT'S NOT THAT WE THINK TPD HAS BEEN IMMEDIATELY INVOLVED IN
12:19:56 THE EVICTION PROCESS.
12:20:00 BUT IF WE TAKE OURSELVES BACK TO 7th GRADE AND WE'RE ON
12:20:04 THE PLAYGROUND, AND I SAY, "HEY, ORLANDO, GO OVER THERE AND
12:20:08 HIT THAT GUY ON THE MOUTH," AND THEN I BACK AWAY AND YOU GO
12:20:13 HIT THAT GUY IN THE MOUTH, AM I ABSOLVED OF THAT?
12:20:17 NO.
12:20:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY --
12:20:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY.
12:20:23 AND I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE I'M PART OF THE CITY FOR
12:20:26 MANY YEARS, THIS CITY GOVERNMENT.
12:20:29 I'M TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS.
12:20:33 THIS IS NOT GOOD POLICY.
12:20:35 AND I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE CITY WHO'S INVOLVED, WHETHER OR
12:20:40 NOT IT'S CITY COUNCIL, TPD, THE MAYOR, EVERYBODY WHO WAS
12:20:44 INVOLVED IN THIS, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE DIRECT KNOWLEDGE OF IT,
12:20:48 BUT WE HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF IT NOW, SO I TAKE PARTIAL
12:20:51 RESPONSIBILITY, AND I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP YOU GUYS
12:20:54 FIX IT.
12:20:55 SO THAT'S THE INTENT OF MY MOTION IS COME BACK 60 DAYS FROM
12:20:59 NOW ON DECEMBER 2nd AND TELL US WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO
12:21:01 TOGETHER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE POSITIVE PARTS OF THIS
12:21:05 PROGRAM AND LET'S DISCARD THE NEGATIVE.
12:21:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF, IS THAT ENOUGH TIME, 60 DAYS?
12:21:11 ORIGINALLY SAID 90.
12:21:12 IS THAT ENOUGH TIME?
12:21:14 >>RUBEN DELGADO: I KNOW WE ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT 90.
12:21:16 BUT, LISTEN, WE'VE BEEN REFINING THIS FROM 2018.
12:21:18 YOU SAW IT.
12:21:18 WE DID SOME MORE REFINEMENTS.
12:21:19 60 IS FINE.
12:21:21 I'LL GET IT DONE IN 60.
12:21:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, I SAW YOUR HAND UP.
12:21:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE
12:21:31 CLERK IS ABLE TO -- DOES SHE HAVE WHAT SHE NEEDS OR DOES THE
12:21:36 MOTION NEED TO BE RESTATED IN A CONCISE FASHION, AS YOU WANT
12:21:42 IT TO APPEAR OR READ BACK --
12:21:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, WOULD YOU RATHER GO AHEAD AND
12:21:47 WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION AND GO WITH MR. DINGFELDER'S MOTION --
12:21:50 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A VOTE ON THIS MOTION.
12:21:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT YOU HAVE THEN IS I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN
12:21:55 DINGFELDER MADE AN AMENDED MOTION OR A SUBSTITUTE MOTION,
12:22:00 WHICH THEN I BELIEVE WAS SECONDED BY --
12:22:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T THINK IT HAD A SECOND.
12:22:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, DOWN THERE SOMEWHERE.
12:22:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE FIRST MOTION WAS MADE AND SECONDED.
12:22:09 THE SECOND MOTION WAS COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER'S MOTION
12:22:13 WHICH WAS ALSO SECONDED.
12:22:15 I BELIEVE THAT TAKES PRECEDENCE TO BE VOTED UPON FIRST TO
12:22:18 SEE IF IT SUPERSEDES THE MOTION THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ON THE
12:22:21 FLOOR.
12:22:21 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION?
12:22:25 SEPARATE AMENDMENT, JUST THAT IN ADDITION, TPD IN THEIR
12:22:31 PRESENTATION EXPLAIN TO US AND THE PUBLIC THE CONCISE DATA
12:22:36 ABOUT HOW THEY THINK THIS IS, THESE POLICIES HAVE OR WILL
12:22:41 PREVENT CRIME.
12:22:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
12:22:44 I'LL ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO MY MOTION.
12:22:47 I THINK THEY TYPICALLY TRY AND PROVIDE AS MUCH DATA AS
12:22:52 POSSIBLE.
12:22:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
12:22:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:22:57 JUST TO CHECK WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE, IF YOU CAN, TO SEE
12:23:00 IF THAT ALTERS THE TIMELINE IN ANY SORT OF WAY THAT REQUEST
12:23:03 OF WHEN YOU WANT IT TO COME BACK.
12:23:04 >>RUBEN DELGADO: SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW IT'S GOING TO IN
12:23:07 THE FUTURE COLLECT DATA, IF I HEARD COUNCILMAN CARLSON
12:23:13 CORRECTLY.
12:23:14 YOU'RE LOOKING AT MOVING FORWARD ON THE NEW PLAN, WHAT'S IN
12:23:16 PLACE TO CAPTURE THE DATA ON THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM.
12:23:22 >>BILL CARLSON: THE STATEMENT HAS BEEN MADE THAT THIS
12:23:26 PROGRAM, THE NEW VERSION OR THE OLD VERSION PREVENTS CRIME.
12:23:30 SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THE DATA ON HOW IT PREVENTS
12:23:35 CRIME AND/OR -- SORRY, AND HOW YOU THINK IT WILL PREVENT
12:23:39 CRIME IN THE FUTURE.
12:23:39 >>RUBEN DELGADO: OKAY.
12:23:40 FAIR ENOUGH.
12:23:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
12:23:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST VERY QUICKLY.
12:23:47 JUST FOR THE RECORD TO BE VERY CLEAN, IN MY MIND ANYWAY,
12:23:50 THIS IS NOT ANYTHING THAT CITY OF TAMPA DIRECTS THE POLICE
12:23:53 DEPARTMENT TO DO.
12:23:54 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE HOUSING APARTMENTS OR WHATEVER
12:23:59 ASSOCIATION CALLING YOU TO HAVE AN EVICTION NOTICE AND YOU
12:24:04 SERVE IT, IS THAT IT?
12:24:06 I WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
12:24:08 >>RUBEN DELGADO: WE HAVE NO INVOLVEMENT IN EVICTIONS
12:24:11 PROCESS.
12:24:12 IF THERE'S A LEGAL EVICTION THAT HAPPENS, CHAIRMAN GUDES IS
12:24:17 CORRECT, SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES EVICTIONS COUNTYWIDE.
12:24:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO
12:24:24 THAT YOU HAVEN'T DONE ALREADY?
12:24:25 >>RUBEN DELGADO: IN REGARDS TO?
12:24:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TO THE PROCESS WHICH YOU HAVE, IN OTHER
12:24:29 WORDS, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GET EVICTED.
12:24:31 THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
12:24:33 >>RUBEN DELGADO: YEAH.
12:24:34 WE DON'T TRACK THE EVICTIONS.
12:24:36 I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY EVICTIONS HAPPENED WITHOUT GOING
12:24:39 TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND PULLING THAT, I CAN'T TELL YOU
12:24:41 THAT.
12:24:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE'RE GOING TO PASS SOMETHING THAT WE
12:24:45 HAVE NO AUTHORITY ON, IS THAT IT?
12:24:47 OR DO WE HAVE AUTHORITY -- WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE TO
12:24:51 TELL YOU GUYS WHAT TO DO ON THIS MATTER.
12:24:55 >>RUBEN DELGADO: CORRECT.
12:24:55 THERE'S NO ORDINANCE ON THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM.
12:24:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHERE IS OUR ROLE IN DOING SOMETHING ONE
12:25:01 WAY OR THE OTHER?
12:25:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN I CLARIFY MY MOTION?
12:25:06 SO, MR. MIRANDA, I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK TO MR. CARLSON'S
12:25:11 MOTION BECAUSE THAT'S A SEPARATE MOTION.
12:25:15 BUT I'M GOING TO SPEAK MY MOTION.
12:25:17 MY MOTION IS LIKE SO MANY OF OUR MOTIONS THAT WE DO WEEK IN
12:25:21 AND WEEK OUT, WHICH IS TO ALL DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING TPD,
12:25:25 WHICH IS TO COME BACK TO US IN 60 DAYS AND TELL US WHAT THIS
12:25:28 NEW PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE ABOUT.
12:25:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
12:25:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S MY MOTION.
12:25:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOUR MOTION TAKES PRECEDENCE AND I VOTE
12:25:35 FOR YOUR MOTION.
12:25:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY CONCERN IS ALL DUE RESPECT, MR. CARLSON,
12:25:39 I THINK WE DON'T WANT TO OVERLOAD.
12:25:43 I THINK MR. DINGFELDER HAS THE RIGHT MOTION, AND I THINK
12:25:46 THAT'S A PRIVATE CONVERSATION THAT MAYBE THE CHIEF CAN MEET
12:25:48 WITH EACH ONE OF US WHILE THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS
12:25:50 AND SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS BE INCLUDED SO THEY CAN NOTE IF
12:25:54 THEY CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE ASKING.
12:25:56 I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN PROVIDE ALL THAT, BUT, AGAIN, I
12:25:59 THINK THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, I THINK WILL SUFFICE WHAT
12:26:04 WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
12:26:04 AND ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT, WE CAN ASK CHIEF DELGADO TO
12:26:08 MAKE SURE HE GETS WITH EACH COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF, THINGS
12:26:13 WE ARE SEE OR HEARING TO MAKE SURE THEY COVER THOSE BASES.
12:26:15 THAT'S KIND OF THE GENERAL PARAMETER I'M SEEING, I THINK WE
12:26:20 SHOULD BE KIND OF MOVING TOWARDS THAT WAY EVERYONE, MR.
12:26:23 VIERA HAS SOMETHING ELSE, I DON'T WANT TO KEEP ADDING
12:26:26 AMENDMENTS AND AMENDMENTS ON SOMETHING.
12:26:27 I SAY WE GO WITH THE MOTION, THE SUBSEQUENT MOTION, THAT'S
12:26:31 APPROVED, AND IF WE HAVE SUBSEQUENT QUESTIONS, STAFF COMES
12:26:33 AND DEALS WITH THOSE QUESTIONS.
12:26:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST IN RESPONSE TO YOUR COMMENT, MR.
12:26:39 CHAIR, I HEAR WHERE BILL IS COMING FROM.
12:26:41 I THINK THE COMMUNITY DESERVES TO HEAR ABOUT ANY -- WE'RE
12:26:45 NOT ASKING THE CHIEF TO GO OUT AND DO SOME MASSIVE DATA DIG
12:26:51 PRIOR TO 60 DAYS.
12:26:52 BUT ANY DATA THAT THE CHIEF MIGHT HAVE OR MIGHT BE ABLE TO
12:26:57 COME UPON I THINK THAT HE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BRING TO
12:27:01 US AT THE DECEMBER 2nd REPORT.
12:27:03 AND I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT FOR MR. CARLSON'S FRIENDLY
12:27:07 AMENDMENT.
12:27:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, AS I SAID EARLIER,
12:27:14 BECAUSE OF THE SURGE IN GUN VIOLENCE, I DO NOT WANT TO SEE
12:27:16 THIS PROGRAM END; HOWEVER, THE TABLE NEEDS TO BE FULL OF
12:27:22 EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
12:27:23 AND I WILL SUPPORT YOUR MOTION, BUT WHAT I'M ALSO ASKING
12:27:26 THAT YOU DO IS INCLUDE THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY, THE
12:27:30 PEOPLE WHO WRITE THESE LEASES, ALONG WITH THE PRIVATE --
12:27:36 REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE PRIVATE APARTMENT OWNERS THAT WRITE
12:27:40 THESE LEASES THAT THEN GO OUT AND ASK TPD TO ASSIST THEM IN
12:27:45 THE EVICTION NOTICE.
12:27:46 THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.
12:27:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, I'LL GET YOU, BUT I KEEP
12:27:50 MISSING -- ARE YOU GOOD, SIR?
12:27:52 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M FINE.
12:27:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE'LL GO TO MR. CARLSON.
12:27:55 MR. CITRO, YOU'VE BEEN HEARD.
12:27:57 I THINK THE CHIEF HAS HEARD YOU.
12:27:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I NEED AN ANSWER.
12:28:00 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE MOTIONS, BUT IT
12:28:04 SOUNDS LIKE MINE IS DEAD AND THE SUBSTITUTE WILL GO FORWARD
12:28:07 AND I'LL SUPPORT THE SUBSTITUTE AND ALSO THE AMENDMENT I
12:28:10 MADE.
12:28:10 PART OF THE REASON I WANT THE DATA IS THAT'S BEEN USED AS
12:28:13 JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS.
12:28:14 AND THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO SEE THE DATA.
12:28:16 WE DESERVE TO SEE THE DATA.
12:28:18 NOT JUST AN ANSWER.
12:28:19 WE KNOW THAT DATA IS MANIPULATED ALL THE TIME.
12:28:20 I TRUST THAT THIS WON'T BE.
12:28:23 MR. CITRO JUST SAID VIOLENT CRIME RATE IS GOING UP.
12:28:26 HOW DO WE KNOW THIS ISN'T CAUSING THE VIOLENT CRIME?
12:28:30 WE'RE KICKING PEOPLE OUT OF HOUSES AND WHERE DO THEY GO?
12:28:32 ARE THEY LIVING ON THE STREETS?
12:28:34 WHERE DO THEY GO?
12:28:35 AS PART OF THE DATA, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL OF
12:28:38 THESE FAMILIES?
12:28:40 WHAT HAPPENED TO THE INDIVIDUALS?
12:28:41 WHERE ARE THEY LIVING NOW?
12:28:42 TO THE SECOND POINT, THE TPD ABSOLUTELY HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN
12:28:46 THE EVICTIONS.
12:28:47 WE SAW THE PRESENTATION THAT ENCOURAGED EVICTIONS.
12:28:51 SO THAT IS BEING INVOLVED IN IT.
12:28:54 JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THE ONES KICKING THEM OUT DOESN'T
12:28:57 MEAN THEY WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THE EVICTION PROCESS.
12:28:59 ALL THE PROCESS SAYS NOW IS UNDER CERTAIN RULES, TPD IS
12:29:04 PROACTIVELY GIVING THIS INFORMATION TO LANDLORDS.
12:29:06 YOU KNOW, TPD COULD PUT THIS ON A DATABASE OR A LIST THAT'S
12:29:09 PUBLIC AND THE LANDLORDS COULD GO THERE THEMSELVES.
12:29:12 TPD, IN WHATEVER PARAMETERS, TPD IS CALLING LANDLORDS AND
12:29:15 GIVING THIS INFORMATION.
12:29:16 SO WHY?
12:29:16 FOR THE PURPOSE OF THEM KICKING THEM OUT.
12:29:19 LIKE MR. GUDES SAID, IF A TENANT IS CAUSING CRIME AND
12:29:25 DISRUPTIVE AND THEY ARE HURTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY
12:29:28 ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE KICKED OUT.
12:29:29 BUT INNOCENT FAMILIES WHERE, YOU KNOW, AN ADULT PROCEDURE OF
12:29:34 A FAMILY, WHY SHOULD THE GRANDMOTHER AND PARENTS GET KICKED
12:29:37 OUT BECAUSE OF THAT?
12:29:39 BECAUSE THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
12:29:41 THEY HAD NO IDEA THE PERSON WAS COMMITTING A CRIME.
12:29:43 WE'RE PUTTING INNOCENT PEOPLE ON THE STREETS AND THERE IS A
12:29:46 30,000 PERSON WAITING LIST FOR HOUSING.
12:29:48 HOW COULD WE POSSIBLY DO THAT?
12:29:50 ANY PROGRAM WHERE THE POLICE ARE PROACTIVELY TELLING
12:29:53 LANDLORDS MEANS THAT WE'RE A PART OF THE EVICTION PROCESS.
12:29:55 SO WE HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY IF WE APPROVE THAT.
12:29:58 I'M FINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET AN UPDATE ON IT, BUT I
12:30:00 THINK WE HAVE TO BE HONEST ABOUT WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING
12:30:02 HERE.
12:30:02 THANK YOU.
12:30:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS --
12:30:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GO AHEAD, MR. DINGFELDER.
12:30:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CITRO OFFERED AN ADDITIONAL FRIENDLY
12:30:10 AMENDMENT --
12:30:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, I ASKED FOR STAFF TO BE INCLUDED.
12:30:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I'LL --
12:30:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RESTATE YOUR MOTION SO SHE HAS IT CLEAR.
12:30:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY MOTION IS TPD TO COME BACK DURING
12:30:23 STAFF REPORTS ON DECEMBER 2nd WITH A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT
12:30:27 ABOUT WHAT THE NEW PROGRAM IS MOVING FORWARD.
12:30:31 IT'S BEEN AMENDED AND I'LL ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT FROM MR.
12:30:35 CARLSON TO INCLUDE ANY AND ALL RELEVANT DATA.
12:30:40 I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
12:30:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CLARITY, IN REFERENCE TO MR. CARLSON'S
12:30:47 ORIGINAL MOTION --
12:30:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, LET ME JUST CLARIFY COUNCILMAN
12:30:50 DINGFELDER'S FOR THE CLERK.
12:30:52 YOU'RE REFERRING SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA AS
12:30:54 THE CRIME-FREE MULTI-HOUSING PROGRAM, IS THAT CORRECT?
12:30:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S CURRENTLY CALLED THE CRIME-FREE
12:30:59 MULTI-HOUSING PROGRAM.
12:31:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO APPEAR AS --
12:31:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:31:04 PERHAPS IT WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT FUTURE NAME.
12:31:07 ANYWAY, FOR NOW, FOR PURPOSES OF IDENTIFICATION, YES.
12:31:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, THANK YOU.
12:31:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THEN THE DATA PART I THINK WE'VE GONE
12:31:15 THROUGH.
12:31:16 MR. CITRO HAS ASKED TO INCLUDE AT LEAST AN INVITATION TO A
12:31:22 REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AS WELL AS
12:31:25 PERHAPS INVITATIONS TO MANAGEMENT FROM THE PRIVATE --
12:31:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THE BAY AREA APARTMENT COMPLEX
12:31:36 ASSOCIATION.
12:31:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S GO WITH THEM.
12:31:38 BAY AREA APARTMENT MANAGERS ASSOCIATION.
12:31:40 AND OUT OF FAIRNESS, I'M GOING TO ADD TO THAT LIST THE
12:31:44 NAACP.
12:31:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:31:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD HAVE EVERYBODY
12:31:49 AT THE TABLE AND LET'S HAVE SOME OF THE OPPONENTS THERE AS
12:31:55 WELL.
12:31:55 SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT.
12:32:00 WHAT ELSE, MR. SHELBY?
12:32:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THIS
12:32:04 NOW: IF THE MAKER OF THE INITIAL MOTION WISHES TO WITHDRAW
12:32:07 THAT MOTION, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE WHETHER TO ACCEPT THE
12:32:11 AMENDMENT OR NOT, IF IT'S THE MAKER OF THE INITIAL MOTION
12:32:14 WHO WANTS TO HAVE THAT VOTE, THEN THE MOTION WOULD BE ONLY
12:32:18 WHETHER TO ACCEPT COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER'S AMENDMENT.
12:32:20 IF YOU WANT TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS, YOU CAN WITHDRAW YOUR
12:32:23 MAIN MOTION AND YOU CAN WITHDRAW YOUR SECOND AND WE COULD
12:32:26 HAVE --
12:32:26 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE A VOTE OF THE
12:32:28 SUBSTITUTE.
12:32:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO YOU'RE WITHDRAWING YOUR ORIGINAL MOTION.
12:32:31 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
12:32:32 I WOULD LIKE THE VOTE TO BE ON TOP --
12:32:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF THE SUBSTITUTE PASSES, WHAT HAPPENS TO
12:32:38 THE MAIN MOTION?
12:32:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT DISAPPEARS.
12:32:41 RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND ON THE FLOOR.
12:32:43 THAT'S BEEN SECONDED.
12:32:43 THAT IS A SUBSIDIARY MOTION.
12:32:45 YOU VOTE ON THE MOTION TO AMEND.
12:32:47 IF IT PASSES, THE INITIAL MOTION DISAPPEARS AND THAT IS --
12:32:51 YOURS IS NOW THE ONLY MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
12:32:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WE'RE ALL CLEAR.
12:32:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THE ATTORNEY.
12:32:58 BUT THE MOTION -- THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION TAKES PRECEDENCE
12:33:01 OVER THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
12:33:02 AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION DOES NOT TAKE, IN MY JUDGMENT --
12:33:05 I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY -- A SUBSTITUTE MOTION CANNOT TAKE OVER
12:33:07 MR. DINGFELDER'S ORIGINAL MOTION.
12:33:09 IT MAY BE ADDED TO IT, BUT IT DOES NOT TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER
12:33:12 HIS MOTION.
12:33:13 ONCE YOU MAKE A MOTION ON MR. CARLSON'S ORIGINAL MOTION,
12:33:17 THEN THAT SUBSTITUTE MOTION TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER MR.
12:33:19 CARLSON'S MOTION.
12:33:21 THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, IN MY OPINION -- AND I'M NOT ARGUING
12:33:23 WITH THE ATTORNEY -- HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MOTION.
12:33:25 THE SUBSTITUTION THEN IS ADDED OR VOTED ON TO
12:33:29 MR. DINGFELDER'S MOTION IF IT PASSES.
12:33:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I'VE -- I'M
12:33:36 MAKING A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WILL, IF IT PASSES, WOULD
12:33:40 KILL MR. CARLSON'S ORIGINAL MOTION.
12:33:42 AND I ACCEPTED TWO FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS THAT GO WITH MY
12:33:47 MOTION.
12:33:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RIGHT.
12:33:48 CORRECT.
12:33:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDER ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, IT'S A
12:33:50 TWO-STEP PROCESS.
12:33:52 THE FIRST IS TO VOTE ON THE MOTION TO AMEND, OR A SUBSTITUTE
12:33:56 IN THIS CASE, AND IF THAT PASSES, THEN THE MOTION
12:33:58 DISAPPEARS.
12:33:59 WHAT HAPPENS IS IF I SAY TO YOU, I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE
12:34:02 LIGHT IS RED AND SOMEBODY SECONDS IT.
12:34:04 AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE LIGHT
12:34:06 IS GREEN AND SOMEBODY SECONDS IT, YOU DON'T VOTE ON THE
12:34:09 LIGHT IS GREEN MOTION BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE THE INITIAL
12:34:12 MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
12:34:12 IT'S A TWO-STEP PROCESS.
12:34:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO VOTE ON NOW?
12:34:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY TO PROLONG THIS.
12:34:18 BUT THE RULES ARE THERE FOR A REASON TO MAKE THE PROCESS
12:34:21 TRANSPARENT AND FAIR.
12:34:22 IT'S THE MAKER OF THE INITIAL MOTION.
12:34:26 BECAUSE HE INDICATED HE'S GOING TO --
12:34:28 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
12:34:29 I WANT IT TO BE ON THE RECORD THAT THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS
12:34:33 MADE.
12:34:34 IF WE REJECT THAT OR SUBSTITUTE, THEN THAT'S THE DECISION.
12:34:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND --
12:34:41 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU DON'T THINK WE SHOULD VOTE -- YOU DON'T
12:34:44 THINK WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO GET PROPOSALS VOTED ON?
12:34:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: POINT OF ORDER.
12:34:50 POINT OF ORDER.
12:34:50 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:34:51 POINT OF ORDER, POINT OF ORDER.
12:34:52 MR. VIERA, POINT OF ORDER.
12:34:53 I WANT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER TO FEEL THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
12:34:56 TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
12:34:58 IF THIS IS THE CASE AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT, MR. CARLSON
12:35:02 WANTS HIS MOTION TO BE VOTED ON.
12:35:03 I WOULD ASK AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT AT THIS TIME, MR.
12:35:06 DINGFELDER WITHDRAW HIS MOTION AND VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL
12:35:09 MOTION.
12:35:09 >>BILL CARLSON: I WITHDRAW MY MOTION.
12:35:11 THANK YOU.
12:35:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THE SECOND WITHDRAWN?
12:35:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY, IF YOU
12:35:19 WANT -- YOU WITHDRAW.
12:35:22 ALL RIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION TO WITHDRAW MR. CARLSON'S
12:35:27 ORIGINAL MOTION AND TO ACCEPT MR. DINGFELDER'S SUBSTITUTE.
12:35:31 DISCUSSION, MR. VIERA.
12:35:33 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
12:35:35 APPRECIATE IT.
12:35:36 JUST SOME THOUGHTS ON THIS, IF I MAY.
12:35:37 I THINK COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION BRINGS UP GOOD POINTS,
12:35:43 WHICH, AS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID, MAY BECOME VIABLE ONCE
12:35:46 WE HEAR THAT REPORT.
12:35:48 SO THE BASIC IDEA THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANYONE IN THE CITY
12:35:52 GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH REGARDS TO EVICTIONS IS A
12:35:56 GOOD PRINCIPLE.
12:35:57 BUT EVEN IF IT'S NOT BEING PRESENTLY CARRIED OUT IS A GOOD
12:36:00 PRINCIPLE THAT I THINK MANY OF US CAN SUPPORT.
12:36:03 WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT FOR IT.
12:36:05 SO THAT'S ALL THAT I WANTED TO SAY WHICH I THINK THERE ARE
12:36:10 VERY GOOD SENTIMENTS BROUGHT UP THERE, ET CETERA.
12:36:12 AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO, WHAT MANY OF US ARE
12:36:16 TRYING TO DO IS, IS TO GET TO THIS PROGRAM, GET TO THIS IDEA
12:36:21 HERE SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE, LIKE I TALKED
12:36:24 ABOUT, CRACKED FOUNDATIONS, RIGHT?
12:36:26 CRACKED FOUNDATIONS, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A PROGRAM THAT
12:36:30 EFFECTIVELY COMBATS CRIME WITHOUT HAVING SOME OF THOSE
12:36:34 DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS WE TALKED ABOUT.
12:36:36 THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
12:36:38 THANK YOU, SIR.
12:36:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF IS 60 DAYS GOING TO BE EFFICIENT TO
12:36:40 BE ABLE TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO?
12:36:42 I ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR 90.
12:36:44 60, YOU CAN DO IT.
12:36:45 OKAY, IT'S FINE.
12:36:46 >>RUBEN DELGADO: IF YOU GIVE ME 90, COUNCILMAN, I'LL TAKE
12:36:49 IT.
12:36:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, ALL RIGHT WITH 90 DAYS?
12:36:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RESPECTFULLY NOW, LET'S DEAL WITH THIS
12:36:54 BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
12:36:55 >>RUBEN DELGADO: I'LL HAVE IT DONE.
12:36:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT DATE YOU SAID?
12:36:58 THE CLERK HAS THAT DATE, PLEASE?
12:37:00 DECEMBER 2nd.
12:37:02 THANK YOU.
12:37:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER MADE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
12:37:07 WE HAVE A SECOND FOR HIS MOTION?
12:37:08 MR. MANISCALCO IS THE SECOND.
12:37:11 ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE ON THIS ITEM.
12:37:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:37:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:37:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:37:21 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:37:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
12:37:26 FOR INCLUDING THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THE NAACP.
12:37:31 YES.
12:37:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:37:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:37:34 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:37:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN.
12:37:41 LET'S GO AHEAD -- IT'S 12:30, FIVE MINUTES PAST THAT, LET'S
12:37:46 GO AHEAD AND WE'LL ADJOURN FOR LUNCH AND BE BACK HERE AT --
12:37:58 WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE, GENTLEMEN?
12:37:59 2:00?
12:38:01 2:00.
12:38:04 I GUESS I BETTER TELL DEBBIE TO GET FOOD BECAUSE IT WILL BE
12:38:08 A LONG NIGHT FOR US.
12:38:09 ADJOURN UNTIL 2:00.
12:38:13 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:38:13 [RECESS]
12:38:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
14:08:23 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
14:08:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
14:08:28 >> DINGFELDER?
14:08:30 CITRO?
14:08:30 VIERA?
14:08:31 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
14:08:33 >> MIRANDA?
14:08:33 GUDES?
14:08:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
14:08:34 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
14:08:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
14:08:39 MR. SHELBY INFORMED ME THAT WE STILL NEED TO DO PUBLIC
14:08:43 COMMENT BEFORE WE -- WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 6 ONCE WE GET
14:08:48 THROUGH WITH THAT.
14:08:49 IT WILL BE 6 AND THEN 5.
14:08:51 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
14:08:55 HOW MANY DO WE HAVE, SIR?
14:09:12 >> WE HAVE THREE PRESENT.
14:09:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
14:09:15 LET'S GET THEM OUT OF THE WAY REAL QUICK.
14:09:17 IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG DAY, SO LET'S STAY TUNED.
14:09:22 STATE YOUR NAME FOR US, PLEASE.
14:09:30 >> TANJA VIDOVIC.
14:09:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN WE GET A LITTLE VOLUME FROM I.T.?
14:09:35 >> TANJA VIDOVIC.
14:09:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
14:09:39 >> I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR SERVING THE COMMUNITY
14:09:43 THAT'S UP THERE TODAY.
14:09:44 I ALSO WANT TO THANK LOCAL UNION REPRESENTATIVE JOE GRECO
14:09:48 FOR HIS TIRELESS ENTHUSIASM, PASSION, AND DEDICATION TO
14:09:51 REPRESENTING TAMPA FIRE UNION MEMBERS.
14:09:53 I HOPE THAT I AM ALSO RECEIVED IN THE SAME RESPECT BY ALL OF
14:09:58 YOU WITH RECOGNITION THAT I AM ALSO HERE BECAUSE OF MY
14:10:01 PASSION AND DEDICATION TO EQUALITY.
14:10:03 I AM NOT HERE REPRESENTING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
14:10:06 NOTHING I SAY IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD AS REPRESENTATION.
14:10:09 I UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE A DISCUSSION ON RACIAL AND GENDER
14:10:14 EQUALITY AND EQUITY IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
14:10:19 HERE IS A LIST OF ITEMS I FEEL LIKE SHOULD BE IN THE
14:10:22 DISCUSSION.
14:10:22 NUMBER ONE, A NONDISCRIMINATORY PREGNANCY POLICY WHERE WOMEN
14:10:26 CAN GO ON LIGHT DUTY AND MAINTAIN THEIR ESTABLISHED
14:10:30 SCHEDULE.
14:10:30 NUMBER TWO, NONDISCRIMINATORY OR RETALIATORY BREAST FEEDING
14:10:35 PUMPING POLICIES BE ADDED.
14:10:37 NUMBER THREE, A FIVE-YEAR PLAN TO ADD WOMEN'S BATHROOMS TO
14:10:44 ALL STATIONS THAT DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE THEM.
14:10:46 AND MOVING FORWARD, ALL NEW STATIONS, THE BATHROOMS WILL BE
14:10:52 SINGLE USER.
14:10:53 NUMBER FOUR, THIRD-PARTY HARASSMENT, HOSTILE WORKPLACE
14:10:57 INVESTIGATIONS ARE TO LEAVE OUT NAMES AND GENDER WITH A
14:11:02 CLEAR SET OF DISCIPLINE SO THAT IT CANNOT BE USED FOR THE
14:11:05 SAME THING THAT PEOPLE GET DIFFERENT DISCIPLINE FOR IT.
14:11:09 NUMBER FIVE, ADD THAT ALL RULES AND REGULATIONS AND PERSONAL
14:11:13 MANUAL ITEMS, INCLUDING HARASSMENT AND RETALIATION CAN BE
14:11:17 GRIEVABLE BY THE BODY.
14:11:19 NUMBER SIX, WOMEN-SPECIFIC GEAR, INCLUDING TURNOUT GEAR,
14:11:23 SCBAs AND JACKETS ARE WOMEN -- THERE ARE ONES THAT ARE
14:11:29 SPECIFIC FOR WOMEN, LIKE GLOBE MAKES TURNOUT GEAR THAT FITS
14:11:33 OUR BODIES BETTER.
14:11:35 NUMBER SEVEN, EQUITY AND EQUALITY IN HIRING, TRAINING
14:11:41 OPPORTUNITIES, AND PROMOTIONS, MAKING SURE THAT WOMEN AND
14:11:44 PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE NOT SKIPPED OVER.
14:11:47 NUMBER EIGHT, MENTAL HEALTH SICK DAYS BE ALLOWED AND NOT
14:11:52 PENALIZED ON EVALUATIONS WITH BETTER SUPPORT FOR PTSD.
14:11:58 NUMBER NINE, PARENTAL LEAVE EQUALITY.
14:12:01 ALLOWING MEN TO ALSO BE PRIMARY AND NOT SECONDARY BECAUSE
14:12:05 SOMETIMES THEY ARE THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER.
14:12:07 NUMBER TEN, HAVING A YEARLY WORKPLACE CLIMATE SURVEY.
14:12:12 THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIRE CHIEFS HAS A REALLY
14:12:15 GOOD ONE THAT I THINK THAT WE COULD SEND OUT TO THE FIRE
14:12:19 DEPARTMENT AND ALL EMPLOYEES AND GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING
14:12:25 OF WHAT THE ISSUES ARE.
14:12:26 THAT'S ALL.
14:12:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
14:12:29 I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD IT WRITTEN DOWN, IF YOU WANT TO
14:12:34 SEND THOSE SUGGESTIONS TO US, YOU CAN.
14:12:35 THAT WAY THE FIRE CHIEF CAN LOOK AT THOSE IN CASE THEY ARE
14:12:39 NOT IN OUR PRESENTATION.
14:12:40 >> ABSOLUTELY.
14:12:40 I WILL BE HAPPY TO SEND THEM TO YOU.
14:12:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S IT.
14:12:46 THANK YOU.
14:12:47 >> THANK YOU.
14:13:02 >> I HAVE SOME THINGS I WANT TO PRESENT.
14:13:04 I'LL SHOW IT TO YOU ON THE PROJECTOR.
14:13:08 ALL RIGHT.
14:13:08 THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE SOVEREIGN WORLD
14:13:17 WILD GLOBAL AMERICAN KINGDOM.
14:13:20 SOVEREIGN NATION UNITED.
14:13:25 HERE IS THE CFO.
14:13:27 CAN YOU SEE IT ON THE SCREEN?
14:13:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, WE CAN SEE IT.
14:13:39 >> THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A WAY OF
14:13:46 GETTING OUR IDs DONE AND GETTING WHAT WE CALL PASSPORTS
14:13:54 FOR THE GLOBAL PORTION OF OUR GOVERNMENT.
14:14:00 NOW, I HAVE TO ANNOUNCE THAT I AM THE OFFICIAL MAYOR AND
14:14:03 THAT MAYOR JANE IS ACTUALLY JUST THE ACTING MAYOR.
14:14:08 I AM TAKING ON MY OFFICE.
14:14:12 SO, LIKE, I NEED ACTING MAYOR JANE TO CONCEDE MY OFFICE AND
14:14:19 DON'T MESS UP MY OFFICE AS I TAKE ON MY OFFICE.
14:14:23 THIS ONE RIGHT HERE --
14:14:38 THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS AN APPLICATION TO WHICH IT HAS
14:14:43 ALREADY BEEN SENT TO ANY TPD OFFICERS WHO WISH TO REMOVE
14:14:49 THEMSELVES FROM THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING DIVISION.
14:14:51 NOW, I'M HEARING THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS MAYOR JANE,
14:15:08 ACTING MAYOR JANE HAS MESSED OVER AND I DO HAVE TO CORRECT
14:15:12 AND I AM WILLING TO CORRECT THOSE.
14:15:14 BLACK LIVES MATTER.
14:15:16 YOU HAVE TO CALM DOWN.
14:15:18 WE ALL LOVE YOU AND THERE'S NO HATE FOR YOU.
14:15:22 WE JUST NEED YOU TO LEARN TO GET ALONG WITH EVERYONE BECAUSE
14:15:25 EVERYONE HERE IS YOUR FAMILY.
14:15:26 NO ONE HAS ANYTHING AGAINST YOU.
14:15:28 THE PEOPLE YOU'RE BEEFING WITH, THAT'S THE EU.
14:15:32 THANK YOU.
14:15:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
14:15:34 MADAM CLERK, FOR THE RECORD, MR. DINGFELDER, CITRO, AND
14:15:39 MIRANDA ARE HERE.
14:15:40 HOW MANY MORE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
14:15:52 >> ONE MORE SPEAKER.
14:15:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
14:15:59 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
14:16:01 I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 9 AND NUMBER 10, AND I
14:16:06 WOULD LIKE THE INDULGENCE OF THE COUNCIL TO SPEAK AFTER THE
14:16:11 CITY MAKES ITS PRESENTATION ON THESE PowerPoints THAT ARE
14:16:17 SCHEDULED.
14:16:18 IS THAT POSSIBLE?
14:16:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S A WORKSHOP, RIGHT, MR. SHELBY?
14:16:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
14:16:23 IT'S CERTAINLY COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
14:16:25 YOUR VOTE AND YOUR RULE WAS THAT ALL COMMENTS BECAUSE OF THE
14:16:28 VIRTUAL NATURE BUT IS MR. MICHELINI DOWN STAIRS?
14:16:34 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
14:16:35 I'M ON --
14:16:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE'S NOT ON THE MONITOR.
14:16:38 IF YOU COULD BRING HIM UP.
14:16:40 I THOUGHT HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN PHONING IN.
14:16:42 CONSISTENTLY, COUNCIL, YOU'VE NOT HAD THAT AND YOU'VE BEEN
14:16:49 REQUESTED IN THE PAST AND YOU'VE TAKEN COMMENTS UP FRONT.
14:16:53 IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE CONSISTENT, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO
14:16:56 SPEAK.
14:16:56 OTHERWISE YOU WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO CHOOSE WHATEVER YOU
14:17:00 LIKE.
14:17:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE'LL DO IT NOW.
14:17:02 ON YOUR ADVICE, WE'LL DO IT NOW.
14:17:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
14:17:06 BY YOUR MOTION OF COUNCIL, ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE
14:17:09 WORKSHOP WERE TAKEN UP FRONT.
14:17:13 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
14:17:13 THE ONLY REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE IN THE PAST YOU HAVE TAKEN
14:17:16 COMMENTS AFTER THE CITY PRESENTATION.
14:17:18 BUT I'VE HAD ACCESS TO THE PowerPoints, AND I'VE SENT YOU
14:17:22 EACH AN E-MAIL REGARDING THE COMMENTS, REGARDING THE
14:17:26 ELIMINATION OF THE PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS.
14:17:31 BASICALLY, THIS IS A BAD IDEA.
14:17:34 THE PROCESS TAKES AT LEAST SIX MONTHS AND SOMETIMES LONGER
14:17:38 TO GET THROUGH IT.
14:17:40 I THINK THAT I'M JUST SUMMARIZING BASED ON THE COMMENTS AND
14:17:44 MY ALLOTTED THREE MINUTES.
14:17:45 THE BEST SOLUTION IS TO PROVIDE THE GUIDELINES AND EXACTLY A
14:17:52 STEP-BY-STEP PROCESS THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE FOLLOWED.
14:17:55 WE HAVE BEEN IN THE TEXT AMENDMENTS I CURRENTLY HAVE PENDING
14:18:00 BEFORE COUNCIL, THEY'VE BEEN IN THE PROCESS FOR OVER A YEAR,
14:18:03 AND WE'VE HAD PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETINGS.
14:18:06 I WOULD SUGGEST YOU INSTITUTIONALIZE THAT INSTEAD OF
14:18:11 ELIMINATING THIS ENTIRE PROCESS AND THEN MAKING IT GO TO
14:18:14 CITY COUNCIL.
14:18:15 BECAUSE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS IF WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A
14:18:19 REQUEST FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE
14:18:21 INFORMATION OR THE KNOWLEDGE OR THE BACKUP FROM THE CITY
14:18:24 STAFF, THEN THE CITY STAFF HAS TO COME BACK AND REVIEW
14:18:29 SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO VET.
14:18:32 SO IT JUST COMPLICATES MATTERS.
14:18:34 IF WE START WITH A STAFF, WE WORK THE ISSUES OUT ACCORDING
14:18:39 TO THEM AND THEN WE BRING IT FORWARD AFTER WE'VE HAD PUBLIC
14:18:43 MEETINGS AND PUBLIC OUTREACH AND ESTABLISH IT HOWEVER YOU
14:18:48 LIKE.
14:18:48 BUT INSTITUTIONALIZE IT SO THAT WE ALL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU
14:18:51 WANT AND HOW YOU WANT IT DONE.
14:18:53 OTHERWISE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE GOING BACK AND FORTH REGARDING
14:18:59 TEXT AMENDMENTS.
14:19:00 I HAD THREE RECOMMENDATIONS -- ACTUALLY, FOUR, AND THE FIRST
14:19:08 WAS ESTABLISH A STANDARD OF REVIEW THAT INVOLVES A STAFF
14:19:12 ANALYSIS REVIEW, WORKSHOPS, AND PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETINGS
14:19:16 IN ADVANCE OF IT COMING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL.
14:19:20 MAINTAIN THE TWICE ANNUAL SUBMISSION DEADLINES.
14:19:23 PROVIDE ADEQUATE AND SUFFICIENT REVIEW TIME FOR ALL TEXT
14:19:26 AMENDMENTS.
14:19:26 AND THERE'S NO COMPELLING OR JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS TO
14:19:30 SUBMIT -- FOR THIS TO BE ELIMINATED AT THIS TIME.
14:19:33 THE PROPOSED CHANGES SHOULD ALL BE VETTED IN THE SAME MANNER
14:19:37 AS ALL OTHER TEXT AMENDMENTS.
14:19:39 THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY SHORT CIRCUITS OR SHORTCUTS FOR ANY
14:19:42 OF THE TEXT AMENDMENTS, WHETHER YOU INITIATE THEM OR WHETHER
14:19:46 THE STAFF INITIATES THEM OR A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL.
14:19:49 BUT THERE'S BEEN NO COMPELLING REASON AND NO EVIDENCE PUT IN
14:19:53 THE RECORD ANYWHERE THAT SOMEHOW THAT THIS PROCESS IS
14:19:57 FLAWED.
14:19:58 IT STARTS WITH THE STAFF.
14:19:59 THEY REVIEW IT.
14:20:00 THEY GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS.
14:20:03 IT'S WORKSHOPPED.
14:20:04 IT GOES TO PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETINGS, AND THEN IT COMES TO
14:20:08 COUNCIL.
14:20:08 YOU CAN STILL VOTE NOT TO TRANSMIT THE REQUEST.
14:20:11 SO YOU HAVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU
14:20:15 APPARENTLY WANT TO DO, WHICH IS TO OVERSEE WHAT'S COMING
14:20:19 FORWARD AND WHAT'S NOT.
14:20:21 SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU NOT ADOPT THIS
14:20:27 ELIMINATION OF PUBLIC -- OR PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT
14:20:30 AMENDMENTS.
14:20:31 AND THEN ON THE SECOND ISSUE REGARDING NUMBER 10, I'M NOT
14:20:35 REALLY SURE WHAT THE ISSUE IS THERE, BUT THERE ARE
14:20:39 APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO NEIGHBORHOODS
14:20:42 THAT SHOULDN'T BE FORCED TO CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT.
14:20:44 I GUESS THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT,
14:20:49 ABOUT WHAT THE OBJECTIVE IS THERE.
14:20:52 YOU HAVE PEOPLE WORKING ON SHIFT WORK.
14:20:55 YOU HAVE PEOPLE WORKING AT OTHER RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE NO
14:20:58 PLACE TO GO WHEN THE DAY IS DONE.
14:21:02 IF YOU HAVE AN EVENT AT THE ARTS CENTER, AT THE STRAZ, OR
14:21:06 WHETHER IT'S AN EVENT, CONCERT OR SOMETHING AT THE ICE
14:21:11 PALACE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, MOST OF THOSE RUN TILL 11:00.
14:21:16 AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A ROWDY PLACE THAT WAS CAUSING TOO
14:21:19 MUCH NOISE AND DISTURBING THE NEIGHBORS.
14:21:21 I'M TALKING ABOUT GENUINE RESTAURANTS THAT SERVE PEOPLE AND
14:21:24 THE PEOPLE'S NEEDS.
14:21:26 SO THOSE ARE THE TWO REQUESTS.
14:21:28 ONE IS DO NOT ELIMINATE THE PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT
14:21:32 AMENDMENTS, AND THE SECOND IS BE CAREFUL AND BE VERY
14:21:35 CONSIDERATE ABOUT MAKING ALL RESTAURANTS CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT.
14:21:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. MICHELINI.
14:21:40 THANK YOU, SIR.
14:21:41 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU.
14:21:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THAT WAS THE LAST PERSON ON THE
14:21:44 SECOND FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
14:21:46 JUST MAKE SURE.
14:21:51 >> YES, NO MORE SPEAKERS.
14:21:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO MORE SPEAKERS.
14:21:54 ALL RIGHT.
14:21:55 ANYBODY --
14:22:03 ANYBODY REGISTERED, DEPUTY CLERK?
14:22:05 >>THE CLERK: YES.
14:22:06 THE FIRST SPEAKER IS WE HAVE MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
14:22:09 IF HE CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
14:22:11 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
14:22:14 >> THANK YOU.
14:22:14 THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE THE
14:22:19 CITY COUNCIL.
14:22:19 THE FOCUS IS THE CURRENT ISSUE RELATED TO CRIME-FREE
14:22:26 COMMUNITIES.
14:22:26 WHAT DO WE KNOW?
14:22:27 WE LOOKED AT BEST PRACTICES FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY.
14:22:30 THOSE PROGRAMS DO WORK.
14:22:31 THE TAMPA PROGRAM MIGHT HAVE TO BE MODIFIED, BUT IT DO WORK.
14:22:37 WE LOOKED AT BEST PRACTICES FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY.
14:22:42 AS THE FOLKS COME BACK TO YOU, ASK THEM TO DO A
14:22:44 BEST-PRACTICE APPROACH TO LOOK AT NOT WHAT'S WORKING IN
14:22:48 TAMPA, BUT WHAT'S WORKING AROUND THE COUNTRY.
14:22:51 HOW DO WE TELL IT TO MAKE IT WORK?
14:22:54 WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT?
14:22:55 WELL, I LIVE IN ROBLES PARK.
14:22:57 AND ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, THERE WAS SOME SHOOTING IN THE
14:23:00 NEIGHBORHOOD, AND MY HOUSE GOT SHOT UP, NOT BECAUSE I WAS
14:23:04 PART OF IT, BUT THERE WAS A GANG THING WHERE PEOPLE WERE
14:23:07 SHOOTING.
14:23:07 IMAGINE THIS.
14:23:08 LITTLE KIDS COMING OUT AND BEING PART OF THAT ENVIRONMENT.
14:23:11 SO I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES THAT WE NEED SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS.
14:23:16 WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW DOES IT WORK BEST?
14:23:20 THAT BEING SAID, IN WEST TAMPA ABOUT THIS AND WE'RE HAVING A
14:23:27 COMMUNITY MEETING RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND WHAT WORKS
14:23:30 AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK.
14:23:31 AT THAT MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING THOSE
14:23:34 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT IN WEST TAMPA TO COME SO WE CAN DRAFT OUT
14:23:40 SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY CAN LIVE WITH.
14:23:41 WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE JUST CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE CRIME.
14:23:45 WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE SOLUTION.
14:23:47 THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE CALL THE WEST TAMPA
14:23:50 CDC TECHNOLOGY, WEALTH BUILDING, AND JOB CREATION CENTER.
14:23:55 HOW DO YOU CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, TO
14:24:00 TAKE THOSE PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS WITH THE GUNS, THOSE
14:24:05 PEOPLE WITH NEGATIVE THINKING, HOW DO YOU PROVIDE THEM WITH
14:24:08 THE STRATEGY NECESSARY TO -- WITH THE COMMUNITY.
14:24:12 AGAIN, BASED ON THE BEST PRACTICE TYPE OF A APPROACH.
14:24:18 WE ARE DATA DRIVEN.
14:24:19 WHEN WE COME UP WITH A PROGRAM, IT MEANS THAT WE LOOKED AT
14:24:21 WHAT WORKS AROUND THE COUNTRY IN ORDER TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
14:24:26 THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MAKING THIS
14:24:30 PRESENTATION.
14:24:31 THANK EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT TODAY THAT SPOKE ON THE ISSUE.
14:24:35 I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT RESIDENTS COME TO CITY HALL
14:24:40 MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD.
14:24:43 A LOT OF COUNTRIES WE DON'T HAVE THIS FREEDOM THAT WE CAN.
14:24:46 SOMETIMES IT'S BAD.
14:24:47 SOMETIMES IT'S GOOD, BUT IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE
14:24:50 OUR OPINION.
14:24:51 THAT BEING SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE MY TIME OVER THAT I
14:24:55 SHOULD.
14:24:55 THANK YOU.
14:24:56 I APPRECIATE GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE MY TWO CENTS.
14:24:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
14:25:00 THANK YOU.
14:25:04 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
14:25:06 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
14:25:08 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
14:25:12 >> HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
14:25:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MA'AM.
14:25:15 >> I STARTED OUT WITH GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN, BUT WE'RE
14:25:19 KIND OF LATE.
14:25:19 FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HONORING MY FRIEND LISA
14:25:22 THIS MORNING.
14:25:23 SHE IS TRULY THE MOST AMAZING PERSON I HAVE EVER MET.
14:25:26 WE ARE SO BLESSED TO HAVE HER.
14:25:27 I ALSO WANT TO THANK CHIEF BENNETT FOR GIVING HER HIS TIME
14:25:30 YESTERDAY.
14:25:31 FOR THOSE TWO -- TO SEE THOSE TWO HAVE THE SAME PASSION FOR
14:25:37 HOMELESSNESS WAS JUST SOMETHING I'LL NEVER FORGET.
14:25:40 LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS.
14:25:42 LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT.
14:25:46 MY FRIENDS AND I CALL IT THE PITA AND IT'S APPROPRIATE.
14:25:52 IT GIVES CREDENCE TO THE TERM "MONEY TALKS" IN THE CITY OF
14:25:55 TAMPA.
14:25:56 I DO A LOT OF TALKING TO FOLKS ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF THE
14:25:59 CITY COUNCIL AND THE STAFF AT THE CITY.
14:26:02 THIS SHOWS THAT $666 CAN BUY RULE CHANGES TO WHOEVER HAS THE
14:26:09 MONEY TO PAY FOR IT.
14:26:10 PRIVATE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GOOD REASON FOR WANTING SOMETHING
14:26:14 CHANGED, WHATEVER THE GOOD REASON IS, WILL STILL BE ABLE TO
14:26:21 SUBMIT CHANGES TO THE CITY STAFF THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL
14:26:23 AND THROUGH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
14:26:25 THE KEY TIME HERE IS A GOOD REASON.
14:26:28 WHICH THE FOUR PITAS, RIGHT NOW IN THE PROCESS, ONLY ONE OF
14:26:37 THEM ACTUALLY GOES A GOOD REASON.
14:26:40 THE REST OF IT WE JUST GET HEMMING AND HAWING.
14:26:44 IF I NEED A LIGHT SWITCH INSTALLED IN MY HOUSE, I COULD DO
14:26:48 IT MYSELF.
14:26:48 BUT WOULD I?
14:26:50 WHAT HAPPENS IF MY HOUSE BURNS TO THE GROUND?
14:26:52 WELL, THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE SOME EXPLAINING TO DO TO THE
14:26:54 INSURANCE COMPANY.
14:26:55 BY THE SAME TOKEN, THE CITY STAFF ARE EXPERTS.
14:27:00 THEY ARE THE EXPERTS AT WHAT THEY DO.
14:27:02 THESE FOLKS WHO ARE SUBMITTING THESE ARE NOT LICENSED
14:27:08 PROFESSIONALS THAT KNOW THE RULES.
14:27:10 SO I WOULD SAY THAT YOU'RE HIRING SOMEBODY TO DIY OUR CITY
14:27:15 CODE BY USING THIS PROCESS.
14:27:17 MS. POST AND HER TEAM ARE THE EXPERTS IN LAND USE AND
14:27:22 DEVELOPMENT.
14:27:22 IT'S A NO-BRAINER TO ME THAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING THE
14:27:25 CHANGING TO ANY RULES FOR THE CITY.
14:27:28 I THINK THE PRESENTATION TODAY WILL SHOW WHY THE EXPERTS --
14:27:31 WHY THEY ARE THE EXPERTS EMPLOYED BY THE CITY.
14:27:34 AND WHY THEY SHOULD BE DOING IT.
14:27:37 NOT THE GUYS WITH $666.
14:27:40 I WOULD ALSO LIKE FOR CHAIRMAN GUDES TO CONSIDER ALLOWING
14:27:47 THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY SPEAKING TO COME UPSTAIRS FROM
14:27:50 THE SECOND FLOOR.
14:27:52 THIS MORNING, WHEN WE WERE DOWN THERE, IT WAS SO LOUD THAT
14:27:55 WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT YOU GENTLEMEN WERE SAYING.
14:27:58 IT WAS EVEN LOUD DURING THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE, WHICH
14:28:03 I THOUGHT WAS VERY INAPPROPRIATE.
14:28:04 THE VRB HAS BEEN BRINGING FOLKS UP AS THEIR ITEM COMES
14:28:09 BEFORE THE BOARD.
14:28:10 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WITH CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.
14:28:14 THANK YOU.
14:28:20 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JEAN STROHMEYER.
14:28:22 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
14:28:23 THANK YOU.
14:28:32 >> HELLO, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.
14:28:34 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
14:28:39 >> WE'RE GOOD, YEP.
14:28:41 >> OKAY, GREAT.
14:28:42 MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER.
14:28:44 I'M JUST GOING TO RUN THROUGH A FEW THINGS ON THE AGENDA.
14:28:53 FROM EARLIER I WANT TO CONGRATULATE LISA FROM SOG, YAY.
14:28:58 SHE'S BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB DOWN THERE WITH THE
14:29:01 HOMELESSNESS.
14:29:02 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT YET, AT
14:29:04 LEAST NOT THAT I'VE SEEN.
14:29:06 SEA LEVEL RISE, WE JUST SAW A PRESENTATION THAT IT'S NOT AS
14:29:10 BAD AS WE THOUGHT, WHICH THAT COST -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH
14:29:14 IT COST OUR CITY, BUT I WOULD HAVE DONE IT FOR HALF A
14:29:17 MILLION DOLLARS, UNLESS YOU ALL KNOW THAT.
14:29:18 JUST SAYIN'.
14:29:20 ITEM NUMBER 6, HOMELESS POPULATION, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO
14:29:22 WORK ON THAT.
14:29:23 JUST DOWN HERE, IT'S ALL OVER AND LISA IS DOING A GREAT JOB,
14:29:29 BUT I THINK LISA CAN TRY TO IMPLEMENT, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE
14:29:32 THE ANSWERS TO MORE THINGS.
14:29:33 ALSO, I WAS REMINDED THAT EVEN IF WE DISAGREE, MY OPINION, I
14:29:39 CAN BE SWAYED, AND IT'S OKAY IF WE HAVE DIFFERING OPINIONS.
14:29:44 YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
14:29:45 BROUGHT THAT UP TO MY ATTENTION TODAY.
14:29:46 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
14:29:47 I APPRECIATE THAT.
14:29:48 LET'S SEE.
14:29:50 SINGLE SOURCE NUMBER SEVEN, I DON'T KNOW MUCH, BUT I'M STILL
14:29:55 FOLLOWING THAT.
14:29:55 NUMBER EIGHT, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE RACIAL AND GENDER EQUITY,
14:29:59 ALL OF THAT, I JUST FEEL WHEN YOU START SEPARATING PEOPLE
14:30:02 AND GIVING THEM MORE BONUSES OR MORE THINGS BECAUSE OF THEIR
14:30:05 SKIN COLOR, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT TO ME.
14:30:08 SEEMS LIKE IT SEPARATES.
14:30:09 BECAUSE WE HAVE A VERY DIVERSE POPULATION IN THE CITY OF
14:30:11 TAMPA, ESPECIALLY WITH MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
14:30:13 WE HAVE JUST PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER.
14:30:15 AND I DO NOT SEE IN MY PERSONAL LIFE -- I HAVE A RACIAL
14:30:21 DIVERSE FAMILY, AND I JUST DON'T SEE INDIVIDUAL RACISM.
14:30:25 I JUST SEE GROUPS.
14:30:26 SO I DON'T LIKE GROUPS, GROUPS LIKE THAT.
14:30:29 THE PITA, WE NEED TO STOP THAT.
14:30:33 THAT'S BEEN ABUSED AND ABUSED BY THOSE DEVELOPERS.
14:30:36 WE KNOW IT.
14:30:37 THE CITY KNOWS IT AND I TRUST THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE
14:30:42 TALKING ABOUT.
14:30:42 IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY IS BRINGING UP THE CUBAN THING AGAIN.
14:30:46 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY HELP WITH THE CUBAN
14:30:49 PEOPLE, OF COURSE, WE WANT TO HELP THEM, BUT WE DON'T WANT
14:30:52 TO HELP THE CUBAN GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HELP THEIR
14:30:55 PEOPLE.
14:30:55 THEY ARE TYRANTS, AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING
14:31:00 THAT WILL BENEFIT THEM.
14:31:01 WE WANT TO BENEFIT THE INDIVIDUAL CUBAN PEOPLE FOR WHAT THEY
14:31:06 NEED.
14:31:06 THOSE ARE THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT I HAVE.
14:31:09 I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING A GREAT JOB, FOR THE MOST PART,
14:31:14 ALL OF YOU.
14:31:15 AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
14:31:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
14:31:19 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS CARROLL ANN
14:31:20 BENNETT.
14:31:21 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
14:31:23 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
14:31:27 >> HI.
14:31:28 MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
14:31:29 I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
14:31:32 I WAS INVOLVED PRETTY HEAVILY IN NEIGHBORHOOD ISSUES,
14:31:39 MEETING WITH STAFF, MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL PRIVATELY,
14:31:42 GOING TO MEETINGS.
14:31:43 I WAS INVOLVED FOR PROBABLY THREE YEARS BEFORE I FOUND OUT
14:31:47 THAT MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR MYSELF AS AN INDIVIDUAL
14:31:51 COULD SUBMIT A TEXT AMENDMENT.
14:31:53 AND THEN I DIDN'T KNOW THEY COST $666.
14:31:58 I FOUND THAT OUT WHEN I STARTED TO WRITE ONE UP.
14:32:01 THERE WERE NO GUIDELINES.
14:32:01 THERE WERE NO REQUIREMENTS.
14:32:03 THERE WAS NO FORM.
14:32:05 I REALLY HAD NO IDEA HOW TO GO ABOUT IT.
14:32:08 SO THEN I STARTED ATTENDING SOME OF THE INFORMATION MEETINGS
14:32:14 ABOUT PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENTS THAT WERE BEING
14:32:17 INITIATED BY PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING INDUSTRY, AND I WAS
14:32:23 QUITE DISMAYED BY IT ACTUALLY.
14:32:25 ORIGINALLY I THOUGHT, THIS IS GREAT.
14:32:26 THIS GIVES THE AVERAGE CITIZEN, GIVES THE NEIGHBORHOOD
14:32:28 ASSOCIATION THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN IMPACT.
14:32:31 BUT THEN I REALIZED THAT THAT JUST ISN'T TRUE.
14:32:35 $666 IS OUT OF REACH, FRANKLY, FOR ME OR FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD
14:32:39 ASSOCIATION.
14:32:41 AND RECENTLY, STAFF GAVE YOU A WORKSHOP WHERE THEY SAID THEY
14:32:46 SHOULD BE TWO OR THREE TIMES THAT MUCH, THAT OTHER CITIES
14:32:48 CHARGE 2,000 AND MORE FOR IT.
14:32:51 ALSO, OTHER CITIES CHARGE IT PER CHANGE, WHICH RIGHT NOW
14:32:56 SOMEONE FOR $666 COULD ACTUALLY REWRITE THE ENTIRE CODE AND
14:33:00 THEY ARE NOT CHARGED MORE FOR THAT.
14:33:02 I ALSO REALIZE THAT SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE BEING
14:33:05 SUBMITTED, THEY WERE SO DENSE, AND THEY WERE SO COMPLICATED
14:33:10 THAT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND.
14:33:13 60 PAGES.
14:33:13 YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ THAT.
14:33:16 AND IT WAS VERY MUCH WRITTEN WITH INDUSTRY LANGUAGE.
14:33:21 ONE OF THEM ON PAGE ONE, IT SAYS THIS ONLY APPLIES TO THIS
14:33:24 ONE LITTLE AREA DOWNTOWN.
14:33:26 THEN ON PAGE 7, IT SAID, OH, BY THE WAY, IT ACTUALLY APPLIES
14:33:30 TO THE WHOLE CITY.
14:33:32 WELL, THAT COULD EASILY BE OVERLOOKED.
14:33:35 I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A MECHANISM NOT FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON
14:33:37 OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
14:33:38 WE CAN COME TO YOU GUYS.
14:33:40 THIS IS FOR THE PEOPLE WITH RESOURCES AND KNOWLEDGE TO
14:33:44 CUSTOMIZE THE CODE TO THEIR OWN PERSONAL ADVANTAGE.
14:33:49 AND SOMETIMES THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES WRITTEN INTO WHAT THEY
14:33:52 WRITE THAT YOU GUYS DON'T SEE THAT LATER ON TURNS OUT TO BE
14:33:55 VERY BAD AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
14:33:59 ON ANOTHER QUICK NOTE, I WANT TO SAY THAT THE SCHEDULE FOR
14:34:03 CITY COUNCIL WAS ESTABLISHED DECADES AGO AND IT HASN'T
14:34:06 CHANGED.
14:34:07 YOU ALL WERE WAY MORE THAN PART-TIME.
14:34:11 BECAUSE THE PAY IS SO LOW, A LOT OF YOU HAVE TO WORK TWO
14:34:16 JOBS.
14:34:16 YOU SHOULD BE PAID MORE.
14:34:17 IT SHOULD BE FULL-TIME.
14:34:18 THERE SHOULD BE MORE MEETINGS.
14:34:19 YOU DON'T CUT PEOPLE BY REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT
14:34:24 CITIZENS CAN SPEAK AND BY REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT
14:34:26 YOU GUYS CAN DEBATE IS NOT THE WAY TO GOVERN.
14:34:31 THANK YOU.
14:34:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
14:34:37 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, THERE IS NO ONE ELSE LOGGED ON AT THIS
14:34:39 TIME.
14:34:40 THEREFORE, THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE
14:34:42 AGENDA.
14:34:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM DEPUTY CLERK.
14:34:46 WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 6.
14:34:48 WE APOLOGIZE TO STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING SINCE 1:30.
14:34:54 TODAY WAS A LITTLE EXTRAORDINARY, AND WE HAD TO GET A LOT OF
14:34:57 HOUSEKEEPING OUT OF THE WAY.
14:34:59 AGAIN, OUR APOLOGIES, BUT THIS IS SOMETIMES THE WAY IT GOES.
14:35:08 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, WHILE THEY ARE TRANSITIONING, THE
14:35:11 TEXT AMENDMENTS, IT COSTS SIX -- SOMEBODY MAY HAVE MENTIONED
14:35:15 THIS BEFORE.
14:35:16 $666.
14:35:18 WHERE DO THEY GET THAT NUMBER FROM?
14:35:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS THEY'LL TELL US ABOUT IT AFTER A
14:35:22 WHILE.
14:35:23 >>LUIS VIERA: MAYBE.
14:35:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GUESS THEY'LL TELL US ABOUT IT A LITTLE
14:35:28 LATER.
14:35:28 SURPRISING AS WELL.
14:35:30 ITEM NUMBER 6, MR. CITRO MADE THE ORIGINAL MOTION THERE.
14:35:37 MS. HENDERSON FROM HOUSING.
14:35:39 WE CAN SEE YOU NOW.
14:35:41 LINDA.
14:35:45 OKAY.
14:35:52 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
14:35:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU.
14:35:54 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
14:35:55 I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE THE PowerPoint AND SOMEONE CAN
14:35:58 PUT THE PowerPoint UP FIRST.
14:35:59 IF NOT, I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN.
14:36:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I.T.?
14:36:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK UNLESS IT'S LOADED, IT WOULD BE
14:36:15 EASIER WITH THE SHARING OF THE SCREEN.
14:36:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN WE SHARE HER SCREEN?
14:36:20 I SEE SOMETHING IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF MY SCREEN.
14:36:33 ALL RIGHT.
14:36:45 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
14:36:46 WE'RE HERE JUST TO GIVE A HOMELESS UPDATE.
14:36:51 AS WE HEARD FROM EARLIER AND THEN YOU'LL HEAR FROM STAFF
14:36:54 TODAY AS WELL AS FROM ONE OF OUR PARTNERS,
14:36:56 TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH HOMELESS INITIATIVE, DOWNTOWN TAMPA
14:37:01 PARTNERSHIP, WE'LL GO OVER REALLY WHAT OUR STATE OF
14:37:03 HOMELESSNESS IS.
14:37:04 WE KNOW THAT IT'S AN ISSUE.
14:37:06 WE SEE THAT IT'S PROGRESSING BUT WE WANT TO COME BEFORE YOU
14:37:09 AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE GAPS ARE AND WHO WE ARE AND HOW
14:37:12 THE PARTNERSHIP IS LOOKING.
14:37:14 JUST GOING OVER WHO WILL SPEAK FIRST, WE HAVE A
14:37:20 REPRESENTATIVE FROM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO WILL COME
14:37:23 IN.
14:37:23 THEY'LL GIVE A LITTLE BIT UPDATE ON THE ISSUES FACING WITH
14:37:29 HOMELESSNESS.
14:37:29 FIRE RESCUE WILL COME IN.
14:37:30 I'LL COME BACK ON TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF FIELD DATA FROM
14:37:34 OUR SIDE AS FAR AS HOUSING AND THEN ALLOW OUR PARTNERS TO
14:37:37 SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF JUST TO GIVE THEIR UPDATE.
14:37:40 I'LL TURN IT OVER TO BRETT OWEN FROM TAMPA POLICE DEPEND.
14:37:50 >> CAPTAIN BRETT OWEN, TAMPA POLICE.
14:37:52 I WANT TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE
14:37:54 ISSUES THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH CURRENTLY IN THE HOMELESS.
14:37:57 AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE ALL GET THE SAME PHONE CALLS, E-MAILS,
14:38:01 AND CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER SUBMISSIONS REGARDING THE
14:38:03 HOMELESS, WHETHER THEY ARE SLEEPING IN DOORWAYS, SEEKING
14:38:06 SHELTER UNDER SOMEONE'S CANOPY AT A RESTAURANT OR THE ODOR
14:38:09 OF URINE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
14:38:11 KAYON, IF YOU COULD PUT UP THE SECOND SLIDE WITH THE MAPS,
14:38:19 PLEASE.
14:38:19 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL CAN SEE THE MAPS.
14:38:21 WE HAVE MAPS THAT SHOW WHERE OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE.
14:38:25 THEY ARE MAINLY AROUND THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AND THE --
14:38:29 ACTUALLY, THERE WE GO.
14:38:31 IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP ON YOUR LEFT, YOU'LL SEE KIND OF
14:38:33 WHERE THE CONDENSED AREA FOR CALLS FOR SERVICE, ALONG THE
14:38:36 MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, DOWNTOWN, LITTLE BIT OF YBOR CITY.
14:38:39 IT GOES UP TO HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND BUSCH BOULEVARD.
14:38:42 THEY ARE SCATTERED AROUND QUITE A BIT THROUGHOUT THE CITY,
14:38:45 BUT THEY ARE CITYWIDE.
14:38:46 THE SLIDE TO THE RIGHT OF THAT IS SIMPLY THE GRIDS THAT WE
14:38:49 HAVE WITH THE HIGHEST CALL VOLUMES.
14:38:53 PLATT AND BAYSHORE AROUND TONY JANNUS PARK IS A HEAVY HIT
14:38:57 AREA.
14:38:57 THERE A COUPLE OF GRIDS DOWNTOWN THAT GO FROM MARION STREET
14:38:59 OVER TO THE RIVERWALK.
14:39:00 AND THEN A COUPLE NEAR YBOR CITY, BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF
14:39:03 INTERSTATE 4.
14:39:05 THAT'S KIND OF THE CALLS FOR SERVICE AS FAR AS THE MAPS ARE
14:39:08 CONCERNED.
14:39:09 IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
14:39:11 THIS SHOWS THE CALLS FOR SERVICE YEAR OVER YEAR.
14:39:15 AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE JUST ON A STEADY INCLINE WITH THE
14:39:18 EXCEPTION OF A SLIGHT DIP IN 2019.
14:39:21 CURRENTLY YEAR TO DATE, ACTUALLY I GUESS THROUGH JUNE 1st,
14:39:25 WE WERE 3003 CALLS FOR SERVICE, WHICH PUT US UP OVER 6,000
14:39:29 CALLS FOR THE YEAR.
14:39:30 JUST CONTINUING THAT INCREASE IN OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE.
14:39:34 SO IN RESPONSE TO ALL OF THIS, WE HAVE JOINED TEAMS WITH THE
14:39:39 DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP, AND THEIR CLEAN TEAM IN USING OUR
14:39:43 OFFICERS, OUR HOMELESS LIAISONS AND SOME OF THE PATROL
14:39:46 OFFICERS, BIKE OFFICERS, TO MOVE THROUGH DOWNTOWN AND TRY
14:39:49 AND WAKE UP THE FOLKS THAT ARE SLEEPING IN DOORWAYS BEFORE
14:39:52 BUSINESS OWNERS COME TO OPEN UP SHOP.
14:39:55 WE TRY AND GO THROUGH, HELP THEM CLEAN UP THE TRASH AND
14:39:58 SANITIZE ANYTHING THAT MAY HAVE AN ODOR TO IT AND THINGS OF
14:40:01 THAT NATURE.
14:40:01 WE'VE UTILIZED NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT TO COME OUT.
14:40:04 THEY'VE GOT SOME CHEMICAL THAT THEY CAN SANITIZE THINGS WITH
14:40:07 FOR US.
14:40:07 SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE.
14:40:09 WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH HART ABOUT TRYING TO FORTIFY THE BUS
14:40:13 SHELTERS A LITTLE BIT.
14:40:14 THEY CAN TALK TO THAT WHEN THEY GET TO IT.
14:40:16 THINGS LIKE NOT BEING ABLE TO PUT CARDBOARD OVER THE LIGHTS
14:40:19 AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO MAKE THE AREAS DARK.
14:40:22 WE WANT THEM TO BE LIT AND SAFE FOR OUR DAILY COMMUTERS.
14:40:28 2015 TO PRESENT OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE, OBVIOUSLY, WITH THAT,
14:40:32 THEY ARE INCREASING ROUGHLY 700 CALLS A YEAR, 600 IN SOME
14:40:36 YEARS.
14:40:37 IT'S CONTINUING TO GO UP.
14:40:38 IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE FOR ME.
14:40:43 THERE WE GO.
14:40:45 SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY TAKEN UP ACROSS FROM BORRELL PARK IN
14:40:49 THE VME NEIGHBORHOOD.
14:40:51 I TOOK THIS MYSELF.
14:40:52 THIS WAS A LADY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ACTUALLY PUT A BAG
14:40:54 OF CLOTHING OUT WITH THE HOMELESS FOLKS TRYING TO HELP OUT
14:40:59 RATHER THAN TAKING TO A DONATION CENTER, SHE THOUGHT SHE
14:41:02 WOULD GIVE IT DIRECTLY TO THE FOLKS THAT NEEDED IT.
14:41:04 OBVIOUSLY, THEY TOOK WHAT THEY WANTED AND LEFT THE REST
14:41:06 SCATTERED DOWN THE BLOCK FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TO CLEAN UP.
14:41:08 OF COURSE, THIS HAPPENED OVER A HOLIDAY WEEKEND, SO IT SAT
14:41:11 THERE A COUPLE OF DAYS AND IT WAS WET AND NASTY BY THE TIME
14:41:14 WE WERE ABLE TO PICK IT UP.
14:41:15 WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH WITH THE
14:41:18 NEIGHBORHOOD, SOME OF THE TOWERS.
14:41:19 WE DID ONE RECENTLY WITH SKYPOINT.
14:41:21 JUST TRYING TO LET THEM KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THEY WANT TO
14:41:24 HELP, BUT DO IT IN THE RIGHT WAY.
14:41:26 THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE THAT CAN TAKE THESE
14:41:28 DONATIONS AND KIND OF MAXIMIZE THE ITEMS THAT ARE THERE
14:41:31 RATHER THAN STUFF LIKE THIS THAT GETS THROWN IN THE TRASH.
14:41:34 WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM AS FAR AS FEEDING THEM.
14:41:37 THERE ARE NUMEROUS ORGANIZATIONS THAT COME AROUND DOWNTOWN
14:41:40 THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY TO FEED.
14:41:42 WE'RE TRYING TO GET THOSE FOLKS TO COORDINATE THEIR EFFORTS.
14:41:45 IF THEY WANT TO MAKE DONATIONS TO SUPPORT THE CAUSE, THEY
14:41:48 CAN DO THAT.
14:41:48 LET'S NOT LEAVE TRASH AND STUFF LAYING AROUND THAT MAKES OUR
14:41:52 CITY NOT LOOK AS GOOD AS IT COULD.
14:41:55 THE NEXT SLIDE IS A HOMELESS CAMP WE CLEANED UP OFF OF
14:41:58 COLUMBUS DRIVE IN EAST TAMPA.
14:42:00 THIS IS QUITE A SETUP.
14:42:02 SOFAS AND THINGS OUT THERE.
14:42:04 IT TOOK QUITE A BIT TO CLEAN THIS UP.
14:42:06 OUR BIKE SQUAD HAS BEEN WORKING WITH CSX ALONG THE RAIL
14:42:10 LINES.
14:42:10 THEY HAD TWO SEPARATE HOMELESS CAMPS THAT THEY CLEANED UP.
14:42:13 ONE IN THE 4700 BLOCK OF WEST McCOY STREET, AND THE OTHER
14:42:16 ONE WAS AT LOIS AVENUE AND TYSON, BOTH OF THOSE DOWN IN
14:42:19 SOUTH TAMPA.
14:42:19 THEY USE SIX 40-YARD DUMPSTERS TO CLEAN UP ALL THE TRASH AND
14:42:24 THE STRUCTURES AND STUFF THEY HAD PUT UP ON CSX PROPERTY,
14:42:27 BUILDING THEIR CAMPS AND SUCH DOWN IN THAT AREA.
14:42:30 SO TOOK CSX EMPLOYEES AND THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT,
14:42:33 NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT AND HELP WITH EQUIPMENT AND THINGS
14:42:36 TO HAUL THIS STUFF OFF.
14:42:38 IT'S CONSTANTLY GOING BACK AND JUST HITTING THESE AREAS
14:42:41 AGAIN AND AGAIN.
14:42:42 AND WE COULD REALLY USE SOME RESOURCES, SOME HOUSING TO PUT
14:42:46 THESE FOLKS INTO.
14:42:47 WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO PUT THEM.
14:42:48 OUR ORDINANCES ARE GEARED TOWARD NOT CRIMINALIZING
14:42:51 HOMELESSNESS, BUT WE FIND PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE
14:42:54 RIGHT-OF-WAY, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TRANSPORT THEM TO A BED
14:42:57 SPACE WITHIN THREE MILES OF THE CITY LIMITS.
14:42:59 THERE'S NONE AVAILABLE.
14:43:00 SO IT REALLY BECOMES A CHALLENGE FOR US.
14:43:03 WE CAN CHASE THEM AROUND THE BLOCK ALL DAY LONG BUT IT
14:43:06 DOESN'T RESOLVE OUR PROBLEM.
14:43:07 WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR SOME LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS.
14:43:10 I HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR.
14:43:12 WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY AND GET THE HOMELESS COURT
14:43:16 REINSTITUTED.
14:43:16 THAT WENT AWAY WHEN COVID TOOK OVER.
14:43:18 SO THEY ARE WORKING WITH US.
14:43:20 WE'LL TRY TO GET A MEETING SCHEDULED PRETTY SOON AND GET
14:43:23 THAT BACK IN OPERATION.
14:43:24 HOPEFULLY THROUGH THE COURTS WE CAN GET SOME SERVICES
14:43:26 PROVIDED TO SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, WHETHER IT BE MINOR
14:43:30 NARCOTIC OFFENSE, GET THEM INTO DRUG TREATMENT, SOMETHING
14:43:33 ALONG THOSE LINES TO TRY TO HELP US ON THE BACK END RATHER
14:43:36 THAN GIVING THEM CREDIT FOR TIME SERVED, WITH 7 DAYS OR 30
14:43:39 DAYS AND TURNING THEM BACK OUT ONTO THE STREET.
14:43:42 THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.
14:43:43 UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO TAMPA
14:43:48 FIRE AND I'LL STICK AROUND UNTIL THE END IN CASE YOU HAVE
14:43:51 ADDITIONAL.
14:43:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
14:43:53 CONTINUE.
14:44:17 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
14:44:38 CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
14:44:40 JUST WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF DATA STATS ON THE
14:44:43 PATIENTS THAT WE HAVE TRANSPORTED TO THE LOCAL FACILITIES,
14:44:46 MEDICAL FACILITIES.
14:44:47 I JUST BROKE IT UP INTO QUARTERS FROM 2019, 2020, AND 2021.
14:44:53 THE FIRST QUARTER WE RAN ABOUT 432 CALLS, AND THESE WERE
14:44:56 ACTUALLY TRANSPORT SECOND QUARTER 537, THIRD QUARTER, 646
14:45:00 AND FOURTH QUARTER, 603.
14:45:02 THAT WAS ALL FOR 2019, WHICH GAVE US A TOTAL OF 2228. AND
14:45:11 FOR 2020, FIRST QUARTER, 619, WHICH WAS AN INCREASE.
14:45:15 SECOND QUARTER 531.
14:45:17 THIRD QUARTER 795, AND FOURTH QUARTER WAS 683.
14:45:21 WHICH GAVE US A TOTAL OF 2,628, WHICH WAS AN INCREASE OF 400
14:45:29 CALLS.
14:45:29 ONCE AGAIN, ALL OF THESE TRANSPORTS WERE TO LOCAL MEDICAL
14:45:33 FACILITIES FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT WAS EITHER AT-LARGE OR
14:45:38 HOMELESS.
14:45:38 IN 2021 SO FAR, WE HAVE RAN 628 IN THE FIRST QUARTER.
14:45:43 818 IN THE SECOND QUARTER, AND 836 IN THE THIRD QUARTER,
14:45:48 WHICH SO FAR HAS GIVEN US A TOTAL OF 2,282.
14:45:51 IF I WAS TO BREAK IT UP BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT QUARTERS, FROM
14:45:54 THE FIRST AND THIRD QUARTERS IN 2019 WAS A TOTAL OF 1,625.
14:46:01 2020 FOR THE FIRST THREE-QUARTERS, WHICH WAS 1900.
14:46:05 LITTLE OVER 1900.
14:46:06 WHICH GAVE US A LITTLE OVER 320.
14:46:11 AND FOR 2021, SO FAR WE ARE UP 337 MORE CALLS THAN WE HAVE
14:46:17 IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS.
14:46:19 THAT'S ALL I HAVE FROM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE IF YOU HAVE ANY
14:46:25 QUESTIONS.
14:46:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE CHIEF?
14:46:27 ALL RIGHT.
14:46:44 >> I'M GOING TO GO BACK OVER -- THIS IS KAYON.
14:46:47 I'LL GO BACK OVER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH HCD.
14:46:52 LAST YEAR, WE CAME BEFORE YOU GUYS WHEN WE DID TAMPA HAVEN
14:46:57 OF HOPE.
14:46:58 WE DID A TEMPORARY SHELTER.
14:46:59 WE WANTED TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS FOR THOSE FACING HOMELESSNESS
14:47:03 DURING COVID AT THE HIGHEST PEAK.
14:47:06 WE REALIZED THAT AS INDIVIDUALS WERE COMING ON, 40% OF THOSE
14:47:10 INDIVIDUALS REALLY WEREN'T REPORTED IN HMIS, WHICH IS THE
14:47:14 HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM.
14:47:16 HOWEVER THEY HAD BEEN HOMELESS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PRIOR
14:47:18 TO ENTERING THE SHELTER.
14:47:20 WHAT THAT SAYS TO ME IS THAT AS A COMMUNITY WE'RE MISSING
14:47:22 THE MARK WHERE WE HAVE THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS WITHIN OUR
14:47:26 COUNTY, WITHIN OUR CITY, BUT THEY ARE NOT ENTERED INTO THAT
14:47:28 SYSTEM FOR US TO BE ABLE TO EASILY IDENTIFY THEM TO PROVIDE
14:47:31 SERVICES.
14:47:32 WE ARE PARTNERS WITH TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH HOMELESS INITIATIVE.
14:47:38 WE ALSO HAVE A NEW HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM RIGHT HERE IN OUR
14:47:42 DIVISION WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO OFFER A LITTLE BIT MORE
14:47:46 SUPPORT AND HANDS ON.
14:47:47 WE ARE MEETING WITH TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS FIRE
14:47:51 JUST TO HAVE MORE DIRECT HANDS-ON SUPPORT, HAVING THOSE --
14:47:55 REALLY KNOW WHERE WE ARE, WHAT WE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY.
14:47:58 THE EVICTION PREVENTION PROGRAM AND SUPPORT THROUGH THE
14:48:00 PANDEMIC.
14:48:01 WE'VE CONTINUED THAT.
14:48:02 WE'VE CONTINUED THAT REALLY THROUGH CARES FUNDING, SOME OF
14:48:05 THOSE FUNDS HAVE COME BY THE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE
14:48:09 PROGRAM AS WELL AS OTHER ENTITLEMENT FUNDS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN
14:48:12 AS WE REALIZE THAT THAT NEED IS GROWING.
14:48:14 WE'VE BEEN DOING ONGOING SUPPORT, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE
14:48:17 PARTNERS WITH THHI.
14:48:20 SO WE'VE BEEN SUPPORTING WITH GENERAL FUNDS SINCE ABOUT
14:48:22 2013.
14:48:23 LAST YEAR, WE ACTUALLY INCREASED THAT SUPPORT FINANCIALLY BY
14:48:26 GIVING OUR ENTIRE HOMELESS ESG ALLOCATION TO THHI.
14:48:32 SO WE'RE CONTINUING OUR SUPPORT AND REALLY JUST TRYING TO
14:48:34 MAKE THE BEST AS WE REALIZE WE HAVE AN ISSUE GOING ON.
14:48:37 THERE ARE GAPS, AND THERE ARE CERTAINLY AREAS FOR
14:48:41 IMPROVEMENT.
14:48:41 LIKE I STATED IN THE FIRST BULLET, WE KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE
14:48:44 WHO AREN'T BEING ENTERED INTO THE INFORMATION SYSTEM.
14:48:47 SO AS WE HAVE THOSE GAPS, REALLY, WE KNOW THAT THHI HAS THAT
14:48:51 MOBILE OUTREACH.
14:48:54 SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO START LOOKING AT BEING ABLE TO DEPLOY
14:48:57 THAT MORE IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING THOSE FOLLOW-UPS AND
14:49:00 PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES AS WE CONTINUE.
14:49:02 I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WILL GIVE THIS
14:49:04 PRESENTATION WHO WON'T SAY THAT THERE IS A HOUSING CAPACITY.
14:49:07 I KNOW WE HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.
14:49:09 WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE FOR HOUSING.
14:49:13 AND WE ALSO KNOW, I THINK BRETT OWEN JUST STATED THAT AT
14:49:18 TIMES THEY PICK PEOPLE UP AND THERE'S NOWHERE TO BRING THEM.
14:49:21 SO HAVING THAT NEED TO HAVE SOME TEMPORARY SHELTERS, TO HAVE
14:49:24 A PLACE TO BRING THOSE INDIVIDUALS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING
14:49:27 THAT WE ARE WANTING TO LOOK AT ALSO AS WE TRY TO FILL THOSE
14:49:31 GAPS.
14:49:32 THAT'S ALL I HAVE FROM HCD.
14:49:35 IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M READY TO TAKE THEM OR I
14:49:38 WILL TURN THEM OVER TO OUR PARTNERS.
14:49:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
14:49:42 YOU MAY CONTINUE.
14:49:44 >> KAYON HENDERSON: I'M GOING TO END SHARING MY SCREEN.
14:49:49 I BELIEVE TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH HOMELESS INITIATIVE DOES HAVE
14:49:52 A PowerPoint THAT THEY WILL BE SHARING.
14:49:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD AFTERNOON.
14:50:14 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
14:50:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME AND BEGIN YOUR
14:50:17 PRESENTATION.
14:50:18 >> SURE.
14:50:19 I AM ANTOINETTE HAYES-TRIPLETT.
14:50:21 I'M THE CEO FOR THE TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH HOMELESS INITIATIVE.
14:50:24 I'M NOT SURE WHO HAS A COPY OF MY PRESENTATION, BUT IF THEY
14:50:27 COULD BRING IT UP.
14:50:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT IS THE ORANGE-COLORED PRESENTATION, IS
14:50:37 THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO?
14:50:39 >> YES.
14:50:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK ALL OF COUNCIL HAS IT.
14:50:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YEAH, WE HAVE IT.
14:50:43 >> WHO HAS CONTROL?
14:50:45 DO I HAVE CONTROL TO MOVE THE SLIDES ALONG?
14:50:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK YOU JUST TELL THEM YOU WANT TO MOVE
14:50:49 IT AND THEY MOVE IT.
14:50:51 >> OKAY.
14:50:52 I'M ANTOINETTE HAYES-TRIPLETT.
14:50:54 I'M THE CEO FOR THE TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH HOMELESS INITIATIVE.
14:50:59 MOVE OVER TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
14:51:00 THHI IS DESIGNATED BY -- LET ME GO BACK.
14:51:04 I'LL TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THHI, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
14:51:07 THE 2020 HOMELESS POINT IN TIME COUNT, MYTHS ABOUT
14:51:11 HOMELESSNESS, SOLUTIONS TO HOMELESSNESS.
14:51:15 ALSO, JUST A REAL BRIEF POVERTY SIMULATION AND WHAT IS LOW
14:51:21 INCOME.
14:51:21 GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
14:51:27 THHI IS DESIGNATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE STATE
14:51:30 GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO OVERSEE THE STRATEGIC
14:51:33 PLAN ON HOMELESSNESS IN TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
14:51:37 PART OF OUR ROLE IS TO ADMINISTER FUNDS, ALSO TO MONITOR THE
14:51:45 AGENCIES THAT RECEIVE THE FUNDS AND ALSO TO CONDUCT THE
14:51:49 ANNUAL HOMELESS POINT IN TIME COUNT.
14:51:51 NEXT SLIDE.
14:51:52 HERE'S SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE 2020 POINT IN TIME COUNT
14:51:58 COMPARING 2020 NUMBERS TO 2019, BUT ALSO COMPARING 2014 IS
14:52:05 WHEN I LOCATED TO TAMPA, AND WE WENT UNDER A NEW STRUCTURE.
14:52:09 YOU CAN SEE THE DECREASE IN HOMELESSNESS THROUGHOUT, WHEN I
14:52:13 CAME TO TAMPA IN 2014 THERE WERE OVER 1100 PEOPLE SLEEPING
14:52:17 ON THE STREETS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
14:52:19 RIGHT NOW, AT THE LAST COUNT THAT WE DID IN 2020, STREET
14:52:23 COUNT, THERE WERE 612 PEOPLE.
14:52:25 SO WE HAVE SEEN A DECREASE IN THOSE NUMBERS.
14:52:28 NEXT SLIDE.
14:52:29 IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 1.5 MILLION
14:52:39 PEOPLE LIVING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
14:52:41 OF THOSE, ABOUT 1500 ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS
14:52:46 THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
14:52:47 99% OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ARE NOT
14:52:51 EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
14:52:53 ONLY .1%.
14:52:56 THE REST OF US, THE 99.9% HAVE A DUTY TO ADDRESS
14:53:00 HOMELESSNESS AND MAKE SURE IT'S RARE, BRIEF, AND
14:53:04 NON-REOCCURRING.
14:53:06 HOMELESSNESS IS NOT A COUNTY ISSUE OR A GOVERNMENT ISSUE, A
14:53:10 CHURCH ISSUE, A THHI ISSUE.
14:53:12 IT'S A COMMUNITY ISSUE THAT REQUIRES A COMMUNITY SOLUTION.
14:53:15 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
14:53:18 HERE ARE A COUPLE OF MYTHS ABOUT HOMELESSNESS.
14:53:22 I HEAR THIS ALL THE TIME, WHICH BOILS MY BLOOD.
14:53:27 PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS BY CHOICE.
14:53:29 THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
14:53:31 NEXT SLIDE.
14:53:32 PEOPLE COME TO TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TO BECOME
14:53:38 HOMELESS BECAUSE OF THE GOOD WEATHER.
14:53:40 WHEN I WAS IN ST. LOUIS, WE SAID THE SAME THING BECAUSE WE
14:53:43 HAD GREAT PROGRAMS, HAVE COLLEAGUE IN MINNESOTA THAT SAYS
14:53:47 THE SAME THING BECAUSE THEY HAD GREAT PROGRAMS.
14:53:49 IN FACT, ABOUT 76% OF THE PEOPLE THAT EXPERIENCE
14:53:54 HOMELESSNESS DURING THE POINT IN TIME COUNT WERE IN
14:53:58 TAMPA-HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AT LEAST A YEAR PRIOR TO BECOMING
14:54:01 HOMELESS.
14:54:02 NEXT SLIDE.
14:54:03 MOST PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ARE ADDICTED TO DRUG
14:54:09 AND ALCOHOL.
14:54:10 ACTUALLY, MOST PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS YOU
14:54:13 WOULD NEVER KNOW THAT THEY ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
14:54:16 THERE ARE A LOT OF THE UNSHELTERED POPULATION THAT ARE
14:54:22 EXPERIENCING SOME TYPE OF ADDICTION, AND TRADITIONALLY THE
14:54:26 ADDICTION OCCURS AFTER THE HOMELESSNESS BECAUSE THEY ARE
14:54:30 DEALING WITH DIFFERENT THINGS SUCH AS NOT BEING ABLE TO GET
14:54:36 HOUSED, NOT BEING ABLE TO GET BENEFITS, MEDICAL CARE.
14:54:40 THEY ARE SELF-MEDICATING ON DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.
14:54:43 THERE'S ONE SIMPLE SOLUTION TO ENDING HOMELESSNESS, AND
14:54:50 THAT'S HOUSING.
14:54:51 HOUSING IS THE ONLY SOLUTION TO ENDING HOMELESSNESS.
14:54:54 NEXT SLIDE.
14:54:56 BEFORE WE -- AS WE ADDRESS HOUSING AND IN ORDER TO ADDRESS
14:55:03 THE HOUSING ISSUE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE HOUSING GAP.
14:55:08 THE HOUSING GAP, IN MY OPINION, IS GENTRIFICATION,
14:55:12 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND HOUSING PRESERVATION.
14:55:14 AS YOU DRIVE THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY, YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF
14:55:20 THE AMOUNT OF GENTRIFICATION THAT'S GOING ON IN OUR
14:55:22 COMMUNITY.
14:55:22 I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT AN
14:55:27 INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS 70 YEARS OLD EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS
14:55:31 BECAUSE HE WAS RELOCATED FROM HIS HOME, AFFORDABLE HOME, IN
14:55:37 THE CITY OF TAMPA AND RELOCATED TO THE COUNTY.
14:55:41 HIS INCOME WAS A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
14:55:43 HIS RENT WHEN HE WAS IN HIS AFFORDABLE HOME WAS 300.
14:55:47 WHEN HE WAS RELOCATED BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, RECONSTRUCTION,
14:55:52 PROGRESS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, HE STARTED PAYING
14:55:55 $700 A MONTH.
14:55:57 I SAW TWO PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
14:55:59 BEING RELOCATED FROM A LOCATION THAT YOU'VE GROWN UP AND
14:56:04 LIVED IN FOR 50, 60 YEARS IS A PROBLEM, BUT ALSO THE
14:56:08 AFFORDABILITY OF HIS NEW HOME.
14:56:11 NEXT SLIDE.
14:56:12 STAY ON THAT ONE FOR A MINUTE.
14:56:15 I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PRESERVATION JUST A LITTLE BIT.
14:56:18 I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE IN THE CITY THAT TALKED
14:56:22 ABOUT THAT THERE WERE GOING TO BE A HUNDRED HOMES REHABBED
14:56:27 IN A YEAR.
14:56:27 LET ME STAY ON THAT ONE FOR A MINUTE.
14:56:16 I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PRESERVATION JUST A LITTLE BIT.
14:56:19 I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE IN THE CITY THAT TALKED
14:56:22 ABOUT THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE 100 HOMES REHABBED IN A
14:56:27 YEAR, 25 YEARS AGO IN A CITY WITH 30,000 PEOPLE. I WAS
14:56:33 DOING 100 REHABS 25 YEARS AGO.
14:56:37 IF WE ARE DOING 100 REHABS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FOR 350,000
14:56:41 PEOPLE, WE NEED TO DO BETTER.
14:56:43 WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT.
14:56:46 AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THE ONGOING CONCERNS ABOUT HOUSING
14:56:53 AND PEOPLE NEEDING RESOURCES, OUR TEAM AND OUR BOARD OF
14:56:59 DIRECTORS AND OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE, THE PROVIDERS, THAT
14:57:05 MAKE UP THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, DEVELOPED THE 560 STRATEGIC
14:57:10 PLAN ON HOMELESSNESS WITH THE SEED MONEY FROM HILLSBOROUGH
14:57:12 COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, LED BY AT THAT TIME
14:57:17 COMMISSIONER OVERMAN AND FORMER COMMISSIONER SANDY MURMAN.
14:57:23 THHI RECEIVED SEED MONEY TO IMPLEMENT TEN INITIATIVES.
14:57:27 THE TEN INITIATIVES INCLUDE OUR EXPUNGEMENT CLINIC, IN
14:57:33 PARTNER WITH THE STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO EXPUNGE
14:57:36 RECORDS, NOT CONVICTIONS BUT CHARGES, WHICH I THINK HAMPERED
14:57:42 INDIVIDUALS FROM GETTING HOUSING, BETTER HOUSING, BETTER
14:57:45 EDUCATION, BETTER JOBS.
14:57:48 WE MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A ONE-STOP SHOP. THIS SHOULD NOT BE
14:57:54 THE ROLE OF THHI BUT WE JUMPED INTO THIS ARENA BECAUSE OF
14:57:59 THE NEED.
14:57:59 ALSO OUR SECOND CHANCE JOB FAIR, IT SHOULD NOT BE THE ROLE
14:58:03 OF THHI BUT WE JUMPED IN BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED SECOND CHANCES.
14:58:07 WE BRING TOGETHER EMPLOYERS THAT SPECIFICALLY WILL HIRE
14:58:09 SOMEONE THAT NEEDS A SECOND CHANCE.
14:58:14 WE ALSO PURCHASED A HOT SPOT MOBILE OUTREACH COMMAND CENTER,
14:58:17 A BRIGHT RED TRAILER, TO GO TO AREAS THROUGHOUT THE
14:58:20 COMMUNITY THAT HAD AN INCREASED NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT
14:58:25 EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS.
14:58:27 I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE TWO YEARS, ABOUT TWO YEARS THAT WE
14:58:31 HAD MOBILE OUTREACH, IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT TO GET
14:58:36 PARTNERSHIPS TO LOCATE THE TRAILER THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
14:58:40 PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SEE THE TRAILER.
14:58:42 THE TRAILER IS THERE SO IT CAN BE VISIBLE SO PEOPLE CAN SEE
14:58:49 THAT IS WHERE YOU GET SERVICES, BUSINESSES CAN SEE THIS IS
14:58:52 WHERE THINGS ARE HAPPENING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING
14:58:54 HOMELESSNESS, AND RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY CAN DIRECT
14:58:59 INDIVIDUALS THERE THAT NEED ASSISTANCE WITH GETTING HOUSING.
14:59:02 THE HOT SPOT MOBILE OUTREACH IS NOT THERE TO GIVE OUT FOOD.
14:59:06 IT'S NOT THERE TO GIVE OUT SOCKS AND TOILETRY.
14:59:10 THE MAIN FOCUS OF THE HOT SPOT OUTREACH IS TO BE HOUSING
14:59:15 FOCUSED.
14:59:16 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
14:59:19 AND I WILL GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE INITIATIVES IN THE
14:59:22 STRATEGIC PLAN QUICKLY.
14:59:25 RAPID EXIT FROM SHELTER, WE GIVE SHELTERS DIRECT FUNDS TO
14:59:30 RAPIDLY REHOUSE PEOPLE FROM THE SHELTER TO PERMANENT
14:59:33 HOUSING.
14:59:35 WE HAVE ENACTED SPEED LEASING.
14:59:37 WE WORK WITH THE AREA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION THAT'S SIMILAR
14:59:41 TO SPEED DATING.
14:59:42 WE BRING THE LANDLORDS TOGETHER, THE AGENCIES TOGETHER,
14:59:47 POTENTIAL RESIDENTS TOGETHER, IN ORDER TO FACILITATE EXIT
14:59:52 FROM THE SHELTERS AND PUT THEM ON THE FAST TRACK.
14:59:58 AND I CAN'T SEE WHAT NUMBER 6 IS BECAUSE THE WORDS ARE BEING
15:00:00 BLOCKED.
15:00:02 OPERATION REVEILLE WE HAVE DONE IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR ABOUT
15:00:09 SEVEN YEARS.
15:00:10 IT'S FOCUSED ON HOUSING THAT HAS BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL,
15:00:14 THAT HAS BEEN REPLICATED IN SEVEN OTHER STATES ACROSS THE
15:00:18 COUNTRY, AND WITH THE BEST PRACTICE, TWO YEARS AGO.
15:00:25 NUMBER 7
15:00:27 HOUSING HEALTH CARE.
15:00:28 WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THAT
15:00:31 INITIATIVE.
15:00:31 THAT INITIATIVE IS TO MOVE MONEY THAT'S GEARED TOWARDS
15:00:37 HOUSING, TOWARDS HOUSING, AS OPPOSED TO RIGHT NOW WE ARE
15:00:40 USING THOSE FUNDS FOR SPACE MANAGEMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
15:00:45 SO ABOUT $1.2 MILLION OF THE FUNDS THAT WE GET FROM HUD IS
15:00:49 BEING USED FOR SPACE MANAGEMENT FOR WRAP AROUND SERVICES.
15:00:53 IF WE CAN MOVE THOSE FUNDS TO ITS PROPER PLACE, WORKING WITH
15:00:56 HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS, WORKING WITH BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CARE
15:00:59 PROVIDERS, WE CAN BRING ABOUT 100 TO 120 NEW VOUCHERS INTO
15:01:04 OUR COMMUNITY.
15:01:08 NEXT SLIDE.
15:01:09 NUMBER 8.
15:01:15 COMMUNITY WIDE AFFORDABLE SUPPORT OF HOUSING.
15:01:17 WE FELT THE NEED TO GET INTO THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AREA
15:01:21 BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY.
15:01:24 WHAT THHI DOES IS PROVIDE INCENTIVES TO LANDLORDS TO
15:01:24 MAINTAIN HOUSING FOR PEOPLE EXITING HOMELESSNESS.
15:01:38 THE CASH PROGRAM HAS FOUR COMPONENTS.
15:01:39 THE DEVELOPERS INCENTIVE. WE HAVE GIVEN DEVELOPERS $20,000
15:01:42 PER DOOR FOR MID SIZED COMPLEXES. BECAUSE OF THE HOUSING
15:01:48 SHORTAGE, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS JUST IMPROVED THE INCREASE
15:01:52 OF $30,000 PER DOOR FOR THAT.
15:01:54 WE ALSO HAVE A RISK MITIGATION FUND.
15:01:57 IF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING DAMAGE THE PROPERTY,
15:02:03 OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE THE LANDLORD WHOLE.
15:02:06 SET-ASIDE UNITS.
15:02:10 CHERYL HOWE WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AFFORDABLE HOUSING
15:02:13 DEPARTMENT PARTNERED WITH THHI.
15:02:15 ANY NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY PROVIDE
15:02:19 FUNDS TO, THOSE TEN OF THOSE UNITS ARE SET ASIDE FOR PEOPLE
15:02:24 EMERGING FROM HOMELESSNESS AND THHI IS THE GATEKEEPER FOR
15:02:29 THOSE UNITS AND THE RENTAL GAP ASSISTANCE COVERS JUST ABOUT
15:02:33 ANYTHING A PERSON NEEDS ASSISTANCE RIGHT AWAY, THEY CAN HAVE
15:02:37 AN APARTMENT, AND THEY ARE PARTICIPATING IN OUR PROGRAMS,
15:02:41 AND WE FIND A WAY TO CLOSE THE GAP FOR A FEW MONTHS.
15:02:45 FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL.
15:02:48 WE ALSO HAD TO RESORT TO SHARED HOUSING.
15:02:51 THHI PROVIDES ABOUT 70 TO $80,000 FOR SMALL DEVELOPERS TO
15:02:56 ACQUIRE AND REHAB SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND HOUSE UP TO 3 TO 4
15:03:02 PEOPLE IN THOSE HOMES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
15:03:04 WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR FIRST TWO.
15:03:06 WE ARE ON TRACK TO 8 MORE OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
15:03:11 OUR GOAL IS TO BE GET 50.
15:03:16 WE GIVE A SINCE TANS FOR THAT SHARED HOUSING.
15:03:18 THE LAST ONE THAT WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO
15:03:21 IMPLEMENT IS THE BEACH HOUSE.
15:03:22 IT'S AN ACRONYM FOR BEGINNING OF THE END TO ABOLISH CHRONIC
15:03:27 HOMELESSNESS.
15:03:28 AS YOU ALL KNOW, MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING
15:03:30 HOMELESSNESS WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO SIGN A LEASE ON THEIR
15:03:34 OWN.
15:03:34 THEN CAN'T COOK FOR THEMSELVES.
15:03:36 THEY NEED SOMEPLACE TO LIVE AS WELL.
15:03:38 THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE STREETS THAT ARE MOST
15:03:41 VISIBLE, THE ONES THAT YOU ARE PROBABLY GETTING COMPLAINTS
15:03:44 ABOUT.
15:03:44 WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO HOUSE THEM.
15:03:46 THE BEACH PROJECT IS DESIGNED TO BE NO MORE THAN 15 UNITS,
15:03:54 SIMILAR TO A CONGREGATE LIVING BUT EVERYONE WITH THEIR OWN
15:03:57 BEDROOM, EVERYONE WITH THEIR OWN BATHROOM.
15:03:59 IF YOU EVER VISIT THE FISHER HOUSE, WHICH IS AT THE V.A.,
15:04:03 IT'S FOR VETERANS, FAMILIES, BUT IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT WHERE
15:04:08 THERE ARE SOME PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN CONGREGATE, BUT ALSO
15:04:14 FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED THAT PRIVACY.
15:04:16 IT'S DESIGNED TO HAVE WRAP AROUND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES,
15:04:19 AND HELP WITH PHYSICAL DISABILITIES.
15:04:24 THE 560, I FORGOT TO MENTION, STRATEGIC PLAN WAS DESIGNED TO
15:04:31 HOUSE 560 PEOPLE IN 560 DAYS.
15:04:36 THAT WAS AFTER A DISCUSSION WITH THE PREVIOUS COUNTY
15:04:38 ADMINISTRATOR MIKE MERRILL, AND HE PUT IT FORWARD TO RECEIVE
15:04:45 SEED KNOWN MONEY FOR THAT.
15:04:47 WE EXCEEDED OUR GOAL IN THAT AND I WILL SHOW YOU SOME OF THE
15:04:49 RESULTS OF THE 560 STRATEGIC PLAN.
15:04:52 NOW, THE 560 PLAN TOOK PLACE, I THINK, STARTED JULY 2019 AND
15:04:58 IT WAS TO RUN UNTIL DECEMBER 2020 BUT THE NEED HAS INCREASED
15:05:05 SO WE HAVE NOT SUNSET THE 560 IN 560 STRATEGIC PLAN.
15:05:11 NEXT SLIDE.
15:05:13 HERE ARE SOME OF THE OUTCOMES FOR THE 560 IN 560 STRATEGIC
15:05:18 PLAN.
15:05:19 AS YOU CAN SEE FOR THE HOUSING PIECE, WE EXCEEDED OUR GOAL,
15:05:24 238%.
15:05:26 THE IMPACT IS A LITTLE MORE THAN WE WANTED, AND THAT'S
15:05:29 BECAUSE MOST OF THE IMPACT WAS FACE TO FACE RELATIONSHIPS,
15:05:35 AND EXPUNGEMENT CLINIC.
15:05:38 ALSO THE SECOND CHANCE JOB FAIR, THINGS THAT WE COULDN'T DO
15:05:41 FACE TO FACE BECAUSE OF COVID.
15:05:46 IF NOT FOR THE COVID-19, WE WOULD HAVE HAD MET, I BELIEVE,
15:05:54 THE IMPACT AS WELL.
15:05:57 NEXT SLIDE.
15:06:01 SO THIS IS REAL BRIEF PROPERTY SIMULATION.
15:06:05 I'M SURE MOST OF YOU ALL HAVE TAKEN PART IN THAT PROPERTY
15:06:09 SIMULATION WHICH IS USUALLY TWO TO THREE HOURS OF ACTIVITY
15:06:12 BUFF I AM GOING TO DO IT REAL FAST HERE.
15:06:14 HOW MUCH IS MINIMUM WAGE?
15:06:17 WHAT IS THE AVERAGE RENT OF A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT IN
15:06:20 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY?
15:06:22 LET'S CONSIDER ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT'S REQUIRED.
15:06:25 PERSONAL CARE ITEMS.
15:06:26 GROCERIES.
15:06:27 INSURANCE.
15:06:27 GAS.
15:06:28 AND SO FORTH.
15:06:29 NEXT SLIDE.
15:06:36 MINIMUM WAGE IN FLORIDA IS $10 AN HOUR.
15:06:39 IF A PERSON IS TO WORK A 40-HOUR WORKWEEK MONTHLY EARNING
15:06:45 $1600.
15:06:46 RENT ON AVERAGE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS 1647.
15:06:52 LET'S CONSIDER THE OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE NEED.
15:06:55 UTILITIES.
15:06:56 PERSONAL CARE ITEMS.
15:06:57 GAS.
15:06:59 THEY ARE ALREADY EXCEEDING THEIR INCOME.
15:07:03 THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE IF THEY WANT TO -- BECOME NORMAL,
15:07:09 WHICH IS INTERNET, CABLE, WE DIDN'T EVEN CONSIDER CLOTHING,
15:07:13 CELL PHONES, RESTAURANTS, ENTERTAINMENT, EDUCATION, MEDICAL
15:07:16 EXPENSES.
15:07:17 WE ARE ALREADY EXCEEDING WHAT WE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN
15:07:21 MAKING $10 AN HOUR AND LIVING IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WHERE
15:07:25 RENT ON AVERAGE OF 1647 A MONTH.
15:07:28 NEXT SLIDE.
15:07:32 WHAT IS LOW INCOME?
15:07:33 WE TALKED ABOUT BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE THAT
15:07:37 ARE LOW INCOME.
15:07:38 WE NEED HOUSING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING VERY LOW OR
15:07:41 VERY, VERY LOW, VERY, VERY LOW INCOME.
15:07:46 LOW INCOME BASED ON HUD GUIDELINES IS A MOTHER WITH TWO
15:07:50 CHILDREN MAKING $53,000.
15:07:53 SO WHEN YOU ARE MAKING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND -- MAKING
15:07:58 POLICIES REGARDING HOUSING FOR LOW-INCOME, MAKE SURE YOU
15:08:00 DIVE INTO WHAT DOES THAT REALLY LOOK LIKE?
15:08:03 ARE WE TARGETING THE PEOPLE THAT WE THINK WE ARE TARGETING,
15:08:06 THAT MOTHER WITH FIVE KIDS MAKING $27,000 A YEAR?
15:08:11 MORE THAN LIKELY NOT.
15:08:12 IT'S PROBABLY TARGETING THE MOTHER WITH TWO KIDS MAKING
15:08:15 $53,000 A YEAR WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SERVICES AND HOUSING FOR
15:08:19 LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS.
15:08:21 NEXT SLIDE.
15:08:29 MY ASK.
15:08:29 UNITS, UNITS, MORE UNITS.
15:08:31 SPECIFIC POLICIES, FUNDING, AND RESOURCES TO ADDRESS HOUSING
15:08:36 FOR PEOPLE EMERGING FROM HOMELESSNESS, SET-ASIDE UNITS, NEW
15:08:42 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, PROJECTS SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT WE
15:08:45 HAVE WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, 10% OF THE UNITS THAT ARE
15:08:49 BEING DEVELOPED AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING ARE SET ASIDE FOR
15:08:53 PEOPLE EMERGING FROM HOMELESSNESS.
15:08:56 INVEST IN SOME OF THE INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE SUCH AS THE
15:09:02 CASH PROGRAM, ALSO THE BEACH PROGRAM, ALSO THE SHARED
15:09:09 HOUSING PROGRAM.
15:09:11 WE NEED LANDLORDS.
15:09:13 WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET LANDLORDS?
15:09:16 CAN WE GET A PSA TELLING LANDLORDS ABOUT ALL THE INCENTIVES
15:09:20 THAT ARE AVAILABLE?
15:09:21 LANDLORDS ARE NOT TAKING VOUCHERS.
15:09:24 WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS -- WE HAVE MONEY FOR VOUCHERS.
15:09:28 WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY FOR VOUCHERS AND WE STILL DON'T
15:09:30 HAVE -- AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING
15:09:33 HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
15:09:35 COORDINATE WITH OUR TEAM TO LOCATE THE HOT SPOT MOBILE
15:09:38 OUTREACH IN PROMINENT AREAS IN THE CITY.
15:09:45 WE HAD REQUESTS TO LOCATE THE HOT SPOT MOBILE OUTREACH SO
15:09:49 THAT WE CAN ENGAGE PEOPLE THAT EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS,
15:09:52 AND WE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME LOCATING THAT RED TRAILER WITHIN
15:10:01 OUR COMMUNITY.
15:10:02 AND THE LAST THING IS, ADDRESS THE HOUSING GAP,
15:10:08 GENTRIFICATION, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND HOUSING
15:10:11 PRESERVATION.
15:10:12 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
15:10:16 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
15:10:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW WE HAVE QUESTIONS.
15:10:27 MR. CARLSON, MR. VIERA, CITRO, DINGFELDER.
15:10:30 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
15:10:32 I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER, LIKE 1200 UNITS WERE TORN DOWN ON
15:10:37 THE WEATHER BANK BY JULIAN LANE PARK, AND THEN 800 OR SO
15:10:42 PRIVATE UNITS WERE TORN DOWN NEAR YBOR.
15:10:44 HOW MUCH, YOUR LAST LINE WAS GENTRIFICATION HURTS.
15:10:51 HOW MUCH DOES THAT HURT TO TAKE APPROXIMATELY 2,000 UNITS
15:10:54 OFFLINE?
15:10:54 >> I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO.
15:10:58 WHEN THESE UNITS COME OFFLINE, WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION FOR
15:11:02 PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN THOSE COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY IF THE
15:11:05 RENT IS 5 OR $600.
15:11:08 WE ARE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE UNITS COMING OFFLINE.
15:11:12 WE HAD A DEVELOPER THAT WE WORKED WITH THAT WANTS TO
15:11:18 PURCHASE THREE COMPLEXES IN A PACKAGE, AND THEY PUT IN A
15:11:22 CASH OFFER OF EIGHT FIGURES, AND THAT DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE
15:11:27 KEPT THOSE UNITS AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY LOW
15:11:31 INCOME.
15:11:32 NOW, THEY ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE MARKET RATE UNITS.
15:11:36 AND SO PRESERVATION OF HOUSING IS CRITICAL IN OUR COMMUNITY.
15:11:41 I HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT TAMPA IS BECOMING THE
15:11:45 NEXT SILICON VALLEY, OR NEXT NEW YORK, OR NEXT L.A.
15:11:50 WHAT WE DON'T WANTS IS THEIR HOMELESS ISSUE.
15:11:53 SO IF YOU GO TO SEATTLE, YOU GO TO L.A., YOU GO TO NEW YORK,
15:11:57 YOU GO TO SAN FRANCISCO, THEY HAVE SOME OF THE WORST
15:11:59 HOMELESS ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY -- IN THE COUNTRY, SORRY.
15:12:04 WE DON'T WANT TO REPLICATE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.
15:12:07 SO WE NEED URBAN PLANNERS, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS REALLY NEED TO
15:12:12 TALK ABOUT AS WE INCREASE HOUSING FOR EVERYONE, WE NEED TO
15:12:16 INCREASE HOUSING FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN THE LOW-INCOME AREA
15:12:20 OF OUR COMMUNITY.
15:12:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.
15:12:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT.
15:12:30 FIRST OFF, I WANT TO SAY THIS.
15:12:34 IT IS NOT A CRIME TO BE HOMELESS.
15:12:36 >> I AGREE.
15:12:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT IS NOT A CRIME.
15:12:43 BUT I HEAR THE SAME THING OUT OF A LOT OF PEOPLE'S MOUTHS:
15:12:47 YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING.
15:12:48 AND THAT GOES FROM BOTH SIDES.
15:12:50 WE HAVE BUSINESS OWNERS.
15:12:52 WE HAVE PEOPLE, RESIDENTS THAT THINK, YOU ARE NOT DOING
15:12:55 ANYTHING ABOUT THE HOMELESS, YOU NEED TO GET THEM OFF THE
15:12:58 STREET.
15:12:59 THEN I ALSO HEAR THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE: YOU ARE NOT
15:13:02 DOING ANYTHING TO HELP THE HOMELESS.
15:13:07 AND YOUR PRESENTATION SHOWED, YES, WE ARE, BUT THERE'S MUCH
15:13:13 MORE THAT WE CAN BE DOING.
15:13:15 AND YOUR STATEMENT BY A DATABASE, I AGREE WITH YOU 100%,
15:13:20 BECAUSE SOME OF THESE HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS BECAUSE
15:13:24 THEIR FAMILY DOESN'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.
15:13:27 THEY ARE SOMETIMES HOMELESS BECAUSE THE ENTITIES THAT CAN
15:13:30 HELP THEM DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.
15:13:34 AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE SOME MOBILE THINGS, WE CAN DO MORE,
15:13:39 WE AS A CITY, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, STATE OF FLORIDA, CAN DO
15:13:42 MORE -- I AM GOING TO PUT MOBILE IN FRONT OF THESE WORDS --
15:13:47 MOBILE SHOWERS, MOBILE LAUNDRY ROW MATS, MOBILE CLINICS,
15:13:54 MOBILE LEGAL, BECAUSE IF SOMEONE IS ON THE STREET, A MOTHER
15:13:58 IS ON THE STREET WITH A CHILD, FOUR CHILDREN, LIVING OUT OF
15:14:02 THE CAR DOESN'T KNOW THE LEGAL THINGS THAT SHE CAN DO TO
15:14:04 HELP, THEN SHE JUST DOESN'T KNOW.
15:14:11 >> COUNCILMAN, I WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE ADOPTED THE
15:14:13 HOUSING FIRST INITIATIVE YEARS AGO, AND HOUSING FIRST IS
15:14:16 DOING ALL THOSE THINGS AFTER HOUSING.
15:14:19 GETS SOMEONE IN HOUSING.
15:14:21 THEN THEY CAN HAVE MENTAL, OR GET THEM IN HOUSING AND THEY
15:14:26 CAN DEAL WITH THEIR LEGAL ISSUES, THEY CAN DEAL WITH THEIR
15:14:29 BEHAVIORAL ISSUES, THEIR MEDICAL ISSUES.
15:14:31 WE NEED HOUSING.
15:14:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND I AM NOT SAYING ANYTHING AGAINST WHAT
15:14:37 YOU ARE DOING NOW, BUT ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT LOCATED IN
15:14:41 ONE AREA.
15:14:42 >> NO.
15:14:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO IF WE CAN MAKE THIS MOBILE, GET THEM THE
15:14:48 INFORMATION, GET OUR RESOURCES, OUR DEPARTMENT THE
15:14:53 INFORMATION WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEIR NAMES ARE, THEN WE CAN
15:14:57 GET THEM THE HOUSING, OR HOUSING CAN BECOME MORE ACCESSIBLE
15:15:01 TO THEM.
15:15:02 THIS COUNCIL ALSO HAS TO START THINKING ABOUT ZONING.
15:15:07 IF YOU HAVE GOT ONE LITTLE PLOT BUT CAN HAVE FOUR TINY HOMES
15:15:12 ON IT, WE ALSO NEED TO THINK ABOUT THOSE SORT OF THINGS
15:15:17 ALSO.
15:15:19 I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS REPORT.
15:15:21 I WANT TO THANK CAPTAIN OWEN AND CHIEF TRIPP.
15:15:26 THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS REPORT.
15:15:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
15:15:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIRMAN.
15:15:34 BELIEVE ME, I KNOW YOU WORKED VERY HARD, VERY DILIGENTLY.
15:15:39 I'M NOT THE EXPERT IN THIS AREA.
15:15:42 YOU HAVE MUCH MORE INFORMATION THAN I DO.
15:15:44 HOW DO YOU SOLVE THIS PROBLEM?
15:15:46 AND THEN THE NEXT PROBLEM IS "NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
15:15:50 THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES.
15:15:52 THAT'S WHAT I HEAR.
15:15:53 I CAN UNDERSTAND SOME OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S THE PARAMOUNT
15:15:55 THING, AND I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, GOT MY HAIR
15:15:59 JUMPING AND I DON'T HAVE TOO MANY OF THEM, BUT WHEN YOU
15:16:01 TALKED ABOUT SEATTLE AND PORTLAND, YESTERDAY AT LUNCH A
15:16:05 FRIEND OF MINE WENT TO PORTLAND AND HE SAID CHARLIE, IF YOU
15:16:09 SAW THAT, YOU HOPE TAMPA NEVER BECOMES NEAR THAT.
15:16:13 AND IT STARTS OFF ONE AT A TIME, AND THEY HAVE GOT TENT
15:16:18 CITIES EVERYWHERE.
15:16:20 YOU LOOK LIKE YOU ARE LIVING IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRY OR IT
15:16:25 HAS 6 BILLION PEOPLE AND ONLY ROOM FOR THREE.
15:16:28 WHAT IS THE ANSWER?
15:16:30 >> HOUSING.
15:16:31 HOUSING IS THE ANSWER TO END HOMELESSNESS AND PART OF THAT
15:16:35 COULD BE, YOU KNOW, HELPING PEOPLE GET ACCESSORY DWELLING
15:16:39 UNITS, IN THE REAR OF THEIR HOME, AND HELPING FUND THAT
15:16:46 POSSIBLY WHERE THE HOMEOWNERS EARN INCOME FROM THAT, BUT
15:16:53 THEY CAN ALSO HELP SOMEONE, EVEN IF IT'S A FAMILY MEMBER
15:16:56 COME OFF THE STREET.
15:16:57 SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT STRATEGIC OUTSIDE THE BOX ACTIVITIES
15:17:03 OR HOW WE CAN PROVIDE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
15:17:05 HOMELESSNESS.
15:17:06 NOBODY GREW UP SAYING WHAT I WANT TO DO, I WANT TO BE
15:17:09 HOMELESS WHEN I GROW UP.
15:17:11 SO WE HAVE SOME THINGS SUCH AS SHARED HOUSING TO HELP IN
15:17:14 THAT PROCESS, FOR INDIVIDUALS LIVING TOGETHER, MAYBE THAT
15:17:17 WERE HOMELESS ON THE STREETS TOGETHER, NOW THEY ARE LIVING
15:17:21 NO HOUSE TOGETHER.
15:17:22 THEY HAVE INCOME, BUT IF THEY ARE GETTING SOCIAL SECURITY,
15:17:25 $800 A MONTH, YOU CAN'T RENT ANYPLACE HARDLY IN HILLSBOROUGH
15:17:29 COUNTY FOR $800 A MONTH.
15:17:31 I DON'T CARE IF IT'S A STUDENT.
15:17:35 SO WE HAVE GOTTEN PEOPLE, PULLED OUR RESOURCES TOGETHER,
15:17:39 MAYBE PUT THAT ON TOP OF SOME VOUCHERS, BUT I'M TELLING YOU,
15:17:43 LANDLORDS ARE STARTING NOT TO TAKE VOUCHERS ALSO, BECAUSE
15:17:47 THE VOUCHERS ARE ABOUT $800 A MONTH.
15:17:49 AND IF I CAN GET $1200 FROM SOMEONE ELSE, I AM GOING TO GET
15:17:54 $1200.
15:17:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:17:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE KNOW YOU ARE IN THE HOT SEAT.
15:18:04 >> I DON'T FEEL LIKE I AM IN THE HOT SEAT.
15:18:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW MR. DINGFELDER IS NEXT.
15:18:10 I DON'T KNOW, MR. VIERA.
15:18:12 I WILL BE LAST.
15:18:13 AND I KNOW -- WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE PATIENT TODAY.
15:18:20 TODAY IS A BUSY DAY.
15:18:21 SO WE WILL GO TO MR. DINGFELDER.
15:18:23 WE WILL GO TO MR. VIERA.
15:18:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS FOR ALL THE INFORMATION, ALL YOU
15:18:30 DO IN THE COMMUNITY.
15:18:31 HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN AT THHI?
15:18:35 >> SEVEN YEARS THIS PAST AUGUST.
15:18:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SEVEN YEARS.
15:18:39 WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER.
15:18:41 AND I APOLOGIZE.
15:18:43 I HAVE BEEN BACK FOR TWO.
15:18:44 I APOLOGIZE.
15:18:45 WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER.
15:18:47 THE COUNTY 560 PROGRAM -- AND I COMMEND THE COUNTY
15:18:51 COMMISSION FOR DOING IT -- HOW MUCH DID THEY INVEST IN THAT?
15:18:55 >> THE THHI WITH THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, WHICH THE CONTINUUM
15:19:00 OF CARE IS A GROUP OF SERVICE PROVIDERS, GOVERNMENT
15:19:03 OFFICIALS, PRIVATE BUSINESSES THAT COME TOGETHER ON A
15:19:07 MONTHLY BASIS, TO MEET ABOUT THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS BUT
15:19:12 WE DO WORK THROUGHOUT THE YEAR EVERY DAY WORKING ON THE
15:19:14 ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS.
15:19:16 I BELIEVE THE SEED MONEY THAT THE COUNTY PROVIDED WAS ABOUT
15:19:20 4.7 MILLION.
15:19:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OVER A PERIOD OF TIME?
15:19:24 >> IT'S FOR SPECIFIC INITIATIVES IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
15:19:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DURING THAT TWO-YEAR PERIOD?
15:19:31 >> WE ARE STILL ACTUALLY USING SOME OF THE FUNDS, SO FOR
15:19:34 SHARED HOUSING, WE ARE USING $80,000 PER UNIT TO ASSIST
15:19:42 DEVELOPERS REQUEST ACQUISITION AND REHAB, SO WE ARE USING
15:19:45 SOME OF THE MONEY FOR THAT, AND LEAVE SOME OF THE MONEY TO
15:19:48 PURCHASE THE HOUSE, THAT MOBILE OUTREACH, TO TAKE THE MOBILE
15:19:52 OUTREACH OUT TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
15:19:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CONTINUUM, WAS THAT
15:19:59 JUST FOR UNINCORPORATED HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OR COUNTYWIDE?
15:20:03 >> NO, COUNTYWIDE.
15:20:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WE HAVE POSITIVE IMPACT WITHIN THE
15:20:06 CITY LIMITS THROUGH THE 560?
15:20:09 >> YES.
15:20:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
15:20:11 I AM GOING TO SCHEDULE A MEETING AND WE ARE GOING TO LEARN
15:20:13 MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING.
15:20:15 THANK YOU.
15:20:16 >> NO PROBLEM.
15:20:17 I TYPICALLY SCHEDULE MEETINGS ONCE A YEAR WITH THE COUNTY --
15:20:21 I MEAN WITH THE CITY COUNCILMEN BUT DUE TO COVID-19, IT WAS
15:20:25 ON MY AGENDA, AND CHIEF BENNETT TOLD ME YOU ALL HAD
15:20:30 SCHEDULED ME TO COME HERE, SO IT JUST WORKED OUT.
15:20:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
15:20:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA.
15:20:35 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL BE VERY BRIEF.
15:20:37 I KNOW WE HAVE A PACKED AGENDA.
15:20:40 BUT I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU MS. HAYES-TRIPLETT FOR YOUR
15:20:47 SERVICE AND YOUR WORK ON THE ISSUE.
15:20:49 YOU SPOKE A LOT ABOUT THE FISHER HOUSE OPERATION AND OTHER
15:20:51 THINGS, YOU YOURSELF ARE A VETERAN, SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S
15:20:55 SO MANY ISSUES LIKE THIS THAT ARE SO VERY PERSONAL TO YOU,
15:20:59 AND I THINK THAT MEMBERS ON THIS CITY COUNCIL, I ALWAYS
15:21:03 HIGHLIGHT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I REMEMBER HEARING YOU
15:21:08 DURING THE CAMPAIGN PUSH FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO MANY
15:21:13 OTHERS, GUDES, CARLSON, SO MANY OTHERS TALKED ABOUT IT AND I
15:21:18 THINK THE TERM -- MOVE THE NEEDLE.
15:21:23 AND I REMEMBER LOOKING BACK THREE YEARS AGO WHAT THE COMMON
15:21:26 WISDOM WOULD HAVE BEEN SAYING, HEY, CAN WE USE GENERAL FUND
15:21:29 DOLLARS AND TAKE A LOOK AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING?
15:21:34 CAN'T DO THAT.
15:21:35 AND NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THINGS WITH THAT AND MOVING
15:21:38 FORWARD ON THINGS LIKE THAT, AND QUESTIONING REALITIES THAT
15:21:41 WE ARE GIVEN, AND I THINK THE LESSON TO ALL OF US IS TO PUSH
15:21:46 ON THESE ISSUES, BECAUSE OF THE CONSEQUENCES THAT THEY WILL
15:21:50 HAVE TO A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY.
15:21:52 SO THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU LISTED AND THE DIFFERENT IDEAS,
15:21:55 THOUGHTS THAT YOU WENT THROUGH, ARE SO IMPORTANT, EVERYTHING
15:21:58 FROM THE MINIMUM WAGE, IT'S SO REMARKABLE.
15:22:01 I THINK THE BUYING POWER OF MINIMUM WAGE COMPARED TO 1967,
15:22:05 68, WAS 35, 40% LESS THAN WHAT IT WAS 60 YEARS AGO, JUST
15:22:11 AMAZING.
15:22:12 I THINK THE AVERAGE FOR THE MEDIUM RENT IN THE TAMPA BAY
15:22:14 AREA IS ABOUT $1300, WHICH TAKES UP ABOUT 35% OF THE GROSS
15:22:18 MEDIAN INCOME.
15:22:19 THAT'S OUT OF CONTROL.
15:22:21 AND THAT CALLS FOR REAL INVESTMENT ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.
15:22:24 SO I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY -- AND I'LL SHUT UP -- SALUTE
15:22:30 YOU, AND THANK YOU.
15:22:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN TODAY.
15:22:41 WE TALK ABOUT ARIZONA, CALIFORNIA, THAT HAVE THESE MOBILE
15:22:44 OUTLETS.
15:22:45 THEY ARE VERY RESOURCEFUL.
15:22:48 WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, GETTING HOPE WITH CASH WASHER DRIER,
15:22:53 MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS, BUT WHEN YOU SEE SOME OF THESE FOLKS,
15:22:56 THEY GET VERY UPSET WHEN THEY PARK THEIR BUGGY OR BAGS
15:23:00 SOMEWHERE AND THEY ARE GONE.
15:23:02 THAT'S ALL THEY KNOW.
15:23:05 PERSONAL PROPERTY.
15:23:06 THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO STORE IT.
15:23:07 GET A GOOD SHOWER.
15:23:08 BUT WHAT BOTHERED ME IS WHEN I TALKED TO DEVELOPERS, AND
15:23:15 THEY TELL ME THEY 2021 HELP, BUT THEY SAY THE CITY DOESN'T
15:23:18 LISTEN.
15:23:20 I HAD A CONVERSATION JUST YESTERDAY WITH MR. MOORE AND ONE
15:23:25 OF THE DEVELOPERS, AND THEY WANT TO DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
15:23:30 BUT THEY JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE CITY HELP THEM.
15:23:36 AND I SAID THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN, I GAVE THE HOUSING
15:23:39 DEPARTMENT IDEAS, I AND THESE ARE A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT
15:23:47 CAN HELP, AND WE CAN HELP YOU, BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT.
15:23:51 WE CAN DO SOME OF THOSE UNITS.
15:23:55 60, 80 UNITS, AND MAYBE -- NOBODY KNOWS.
15:24:03 YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING ON THAT THRESHOLD IN A
15:24:07 MARKET RATE UNIT, AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL AND
15:24:14 LISTEN TO SOME OF THESE DEVELOPERS, AND LOOK AT WHAT THE
15:24:16 INCENTIVES COULD BE.
15:24:19 WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAND TRUST.
15:24:21 I KNOW CRA HAS A MEETING NEXT MONTH TO TALK ABOUT LAND
15:24:26 TRUST.
15:24:27 WE HAVE TO BUY PROPERTY.
15:24:28 WE HAVE TO OWN THAT PROPERTY.
15:24:29 AND THAT WAY, IF WE PUT THAT OUT FOR OUR TEAM, WHATEVER
15:24:35 CONTROLS THAT MARKET WILL CONTROL WHAT WE WANT ON THAT LAND.
15:24:41 THESE ARE SOME THINGS WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THE HOUSING
15:24:44 MARKET, CONTROL.
15:24:50 TALKED WITH MR. SHELBY AND CITY WHERE THE CITY HAS
15:24:53 CITY-OWNED PROPERTY, HOW WE CONTROL WHAT NEEDS TO BE ON THAT
15:24:57 PROPERTY.
15:25:01 AND HAVE THE DEVELOPERS DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
15:25:05 I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
15:25:06 I AM FIGHTING FOR THAT EVERY DAY.
15:25:08 SHE IS CORRECT ABOUT THE VOUCHERS.
15:25:10 PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO TAKE THESE VOUCHERS.
15:25:12 AND I DON'T KNOW LEGALLY WHAT WE CAN DO, IF WE CAN DO
15:25:15 ANYTHING IN REFERENCE TO THAT.
15:25:19 I KNOW PROPERTY TAXES CAN ONLY GO UP SO MUCH THROUGHOUT THE
15:25:24 COURSE OF A YEAR SPAN AND SO FORTH.
15:25:28 BUT A RENTAL OR INCREASES FOR APARTMENTS, OR HOUSING, CAN
15:25:36 ONLY GO UP SO MUCH EVERY COUPLE YEARS, VERSUS EACH YEAR WHEN
15:25:40 A PERSON RENEWS THEIR LEASE THEY ARE GOING UP 5, $700 EACH
15:25:45 YEAR.
15:25:45 SO HAVE LEGAL TO LOOK INTO TO SEE WHAT LEGAL COURSE CAN TAKE
15:25:54 AS A COUNCIL TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN MAKE -- HOW CAN WE
15:26:02 CONTROL IT?
15:26:06 AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE CITY TO HELP.
15:26:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN I SAY ONE THING?
15:26:16 THIS BODY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO APPOINT ME AS YOUR
15:26:18 REPRESENTATIVE ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COUNCIL,
15:26:21 AHAB, AND COINCIDENTALLY LAST WEEK WE SPENT ABOUT 3 OR 4
15:26:26 HOURS WORKING WITH STAFF AND THE COMMITTEE TO WORK ON AN
15:26:30 INCENTIVE, RECOMMENDATION, THAT WILL EVENTUALLY, HOPEFULLY
15:26:34 IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, MAKE THEIR WAY TO COUNCIL.
15:26:39 SO SOME OF IT IS CONTROVERSIAL.
15:26:42 SOME OF THEM A PIECE OF CAKE.
15:26:44 BUT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.
15:26:46 AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
15:26:48 THANK YOU.
15:26:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS.
15:26:54 HAYES-TRIPLETT?
15:26:55 >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE OTHER THING BEFORE I CONCLUDE.
15:26:58 THERE IS A DIFFERENCE AMONG ME AND MY STAFF, WE TALK ABOUT
15:27:00 AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
15:27:04 SO WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MAKE SURE
15:27:07 YOU ARE LOOKING AT HOUSING FOR THOSE THAT HAVE VERY, VERY
15:27:13 LOW INCOME OR NO INCOME.
15:27:15 AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NOT ENOUGH TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF
15:27:18 HOMELESSNESS.
15:27:20 PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS HAVE ABOUT $800 OF
15:27:24 SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFIT OR SSI, AND CANNOT AFFORD THE
15:27:30 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
15:27:33 AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS, AS WE CONCENTRATE ON
15:27:37 ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS, THAT WE SPEND MORE EFFORT TOWARDS
15:27:42 HOUSING AS OPPOSED TO DOING THOSE ANCILLARY THINGS SUCH AS
15:27:49 PROVIDING MEALS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE STREET.
15:27:52 AND ALL MEALS.
15:27:56 I WANT EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY TO FOCUS ON PROVIDING
15:28:00 HOUSING AND NOT SO MUCH AS ANCILLARY REMEDIES.
15:28:07 THE ONLY WAY TO END HOMELESSNESS IS HOUSING.
15:28:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE CORRECT.
15:28:13 WE HAVE NINE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, AND EVERYBODY'S VIEW OF
15:28:18 AFFORDABILITY IS DIFFERENT SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.
15:28:20 AND THANK YOU FOR COMING, YOUR PRESENTATION WAS GREAT, AND
15:28:23 AS YOU SAW, YOU GOT RESPONSES FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AS
15:28:26 RELATES TO HOUSING BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S A CRISIS COMING.
15:28:29 WE ARE IN A CRISIS NOW.
15:28:31 THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING.
15:28:32 >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
15:28:38 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, I KNOW WE BEGAN COUNCIL AT FIVE,
15:28:42 RIGHT?
15:28:43 IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I CAN GO AHEAD AS A COURTESY, I HAVE
15:28:46 NUMBER 11, AND MOVE THAT TO ANOTHER DATE.
15:28:52 IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
15:28:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, WE WILL LET HART GIVE THEIR
15:29:06 PRESENTATION.
15:29:06 I THINK WE CAN CONCLUDE NUMBER 6.
15:29:17 YES, MA'AM, WHICH ORGANIZATION ARE YOU WITH?
15:29:19 >> I'M WITH HART.
15:29:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
15:29:23 >> [DISTORTION] ADELEE LE GRAND. I'M THE CEO OF THE
15:29:27 HILLSBOROUGH TRANSIT AUTHORITY TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON -- IN
15:29:36 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
15:29:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
15:29:38 >> AND WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THESE POINTS.
15:29:47 HERE AT HART, WE RECOGNIZE EVERYONE IS FACING CHALLENGES, AS
15:29:52 MS. HAYES-TRIPLETT JUST PRESENTED VERY WELL ALL THE DETAILS.
15:29:56 I WON'T REPEAT THOSE.
15:29:57 BUT OUR COMMERCE, AND EMPLOYEES, ARE IMPACTED IN THREE AREAS
15:30:03 THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY.
15:30:05 ONE OF THEM IS CUSTOMER REPORTS.
15:30:09 WE ARE GOING TO HEAR SOME EMPLOYEE REPORTS.
15:30:11 AND THEN THIRD I AM GOING TO LIST SOME OF THE SPECIFICS ON
15:30:14 THE DATA THAT WE COLLECT.
15:30:17 FIRST AND FAR MOST WE RECOGNIZE THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING
15:30:22 WITH THE IMPACT OF HOMELESSNESS AS WELL AS THOSE -- IN
15:30:27 HOMELESSNESS, THEY WANTS A SAFE PLACE, AND WE UNDERSTAND
15:30:34 THAT AND IN MOST CASES THEY ARE NOT VIOLENT.
15:30:40 HOWEVER, SINCE THEY ARE CHOOSING TO SPEND TIME IN OUR
15:30:45 SHELTERS, AT OUR BUS STOPS, ALSO PROVIDE A NEGATIVE
15:30:49 PERCEPTION OF THE KIND OF SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE FOR OUR
15:30:53 COMMERCE.
15:30:53 IT'S INACCURATE THAT PUBLIC TRANSIT IS NOT SAFE AND IT'S
15:30:58 SOMETHING THAT INTERNALLY WITH OUR STAFF AS WELL AS
15:31:01 COMMUNICATING WITH OUR CUSTOMERS THAT WE HAVE TO TRY TO
15:31:06 ADDRESS.
15:31:06 SO FIRST WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE CUSTOMER REPORTING, THESE ARE
15:31:10 THE CALLS THAT WE RECEIVE AT OUR CALL CENTER WHICH REQUIRES
15:31:13 OUR EMPLOYEES TO AGAIN ENGAGE WITH OUR CUSTOMERS AND HELP
15:31:17 REASSURE THEM AND PROVIDE THEM WITH SOME SORT OF RESPONSE
15:31:21 THAT HELPS THEM TO SEE THAT WE ARE TAKING THE ISSUE
15:31:25 SERIOUSLY.
15:31:26 SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS WE WOULD RECEIVE AT BUS STOPS, AND
15:31:32 THE SAFETY OF THE LOCATION, AGAIN THE DAMAGE TO THE
15:31:36 INFRASTRUCTURE IN SOME CASES, THAT MAY BREAK SOME OF OUR
15:31:44 SHELTERS, WE HAVE SOME STIPULATIONS, SITUATIONS WHERE WE
15:31:51 PROVIDE STATION AT SOME OF OUR FACILITIES, TRANSIT CENTERS.
15:31:57 AS YOU CAN IMAGINE ONE OF THOSE BOXES WHERE YOU PLUG IN,
15:32:01 CHARGE YOUR PHONE OR SOME OTHER DEVICE.
15:32:06 IT ALSO CREATES AN ENVIRONMENTS WHERE PEOPLE CALL AND THEY
15:32:10 SAID -- AT ONE OF OUR BUS STOPS BECAUSE WHEN THEY CAME TO A
15:32:15 STOP, THEIR CHILDREN OR ELDERLY PERSON, IF SOMEONE HAD
15:32:21 TEMPORARILY USED A SHELTER AS HOUSING.
15:32:24 IN SOME CASES, WHICH IS THE VARIETY MINORITY OF THE CASES,
15:32:34 THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE CONGREGATING.
15:32:37 WE HAVE FOUND SOME -- THOSE ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS, SOME OF
15:32:43 THE AREAS THAT THEY SAY THEY WOULD LIKE SOME ADDITIONAL
15:32:45 HELP.
15:32:46 THEY FEEL THAT THEY ARE NOT SECURE ON THE STREETS.
15:32:50 THEY WOULD LIKE ACCESS TO PUBLIC RESTROOMS AND SHOWERS.
15:32:53 IT ALSO MENTIONS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE SHELTER FROM WEATHER
15:32:59 AND ACCESS TO FOOD.
15:33:01 ACCESS TO FOOD IN SOME CASES, SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES ARE
15:33:05 DELIVERING FOOD CLOSE TO THE CENTERS WHICH AGAIN CAUSE I
15:33:11 WOULD SAY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF HAVING THIS CONGREGATION
15:33:15 OF FOLKS GETTING FOOD BUT THEN -- AT OUR LOCATIONS AND
15:33:24 SHELTERS.
15:33:25 I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT TO EMPLOYEES.
15:33:28 WHAT WE HAVE TO DO ON AN EMPLOYEE BASIS NOW IS SPEND MORE
15:33:33 TIME MONITORING OUR LOCATION, WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITIES,
15:33:41 TO ACCESS THOSE LOCATIONS WHERE THEY HAVE CONGREGATED, ALSO
15:33:44 REQUIRING THAT MORE TIME RESANITIZING THOSE LOCATIONS, BUT
15:33:50 THE REALITY IS IT'S A NEVER ENDING CYCLE SO IT'S KIND OF
15:33:53 BEING IN A HAMSTER WHEEL.
15:33:55 AS SOON AS YOU ASK SOMEONE TO LEAVE, SOON AFTER YOU HAVE TO
15:33:58 GO BACK TO THE SAME LOCATION.
15:34:00 IN ADDITION, ON STREET CAR SERVICE, WE ALSO HAVE A COUPLE OF
15:34:04 STOPS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A HIGH -- AND WOULD AGAIN
15:34:11 CONGREGATE, SO WE HAVE TO SPEND MORE TIME TO PROVIDE BEING
15:34:14 IN THOSE LOCATIONS TO MONITOR THOSE SPOTS.
15:34:20 INTERNALLY, I WOULD SAY IF YOU WANTED TO ASK ME HOW HAS THIS
15:34:24 IMPACTED US IN DOLLARS AND CENTS PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, WHAT
15:34:27 WE HAVE DONE IS JUST INCLUDE OUR COVERAGE AREA AND SPEND
15:34:32 MORE TIME IN SPECIFIC KEY LOCATIONS.
15:34:35 WE KNOW KEY CORRIDORS ARE THE ONES THAT I WOULD SAY ARE
15:34:39 MAJOR OFFENDERS, AND ALLOCATING OUR RESOURCES TO THOSE
15:34:45 LOCATIONS, AND YOU HAVE A FINITE BUDGET, YOU DON'T HAVE
15:34:49 ADDITIONAL DOLLARS AND JUST REALLOCATE IT SO WE ARE SPENDING
15:34:53 MORE TIME IN CERTAIN AREAS AND LESS TIME IN OTHERS.
15:34:56 THE LAST THING I WOULD SHARE WITH YOU IS SOME OF, THESE ARE
15:35:03 THE CATEGORIES THAT WE CREATE, THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES THAT
15:35:07 WE TRACK ON A DAILY BASIS.
15:35:09 THEY INCLUDE LOITERING -- ON THE PROPERTY, PANHANDLING,
15:35:14 BURGLAR ASSAULTS, VISIBLE ASSAULTS, DRUG, ALCOHOL ABUSE,
15:35:20 DEFECATING AND URINATING ON OUR PROPERTY AT THE FACILITIES.
15:35:25 THEN WE HAVE TWO CATEGORIES, VIOLENT AND NONVIOLENT.
15:35:30 THE VARIETY MINORITY OF OUR CASES ARE NONVIOLENT.
15:35:36 THE MAJORITY OF OUR CASES ARE NONVIOLENT.
15:35:39 SO FOR 2021, OUR SEPTEMBER NUMBERS, WE HAD FOUR VIOLENT
15:35:44 INCIDENTS AND 38 NONVIOLENT.
15:35:51 AND AS MS. HAYES-TRIPLETT WAS SAYING -- IT DOES HAVE AN
15:35:59 IMPACT ON OUR SERVICE.
15:36:01 WE WOULD LIKE SOME ADDITIONAL -- IN MOST CASES, TO ALSO HELP
15:36:10 US TO WORK WITH THE OTHER PARTNERS THAT REALLY GET PEOPLE
15:36:15 INTO HOUSING SO THEY CAN LEAVE OUR LOCATION.
15:36:17 OVERALL, AS I HAVE STATED, IT'S MORE OF A NUISANCE, BUT IT'S
15:36:21 ALSO MORE OF ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO, BUT IT'S
15:36:25 NOT AN ISSUE OF VIOLENCE.
15:36:26 SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM CLEAR ON THAT, BECAUSE I
15:36:29 DON'T WANTS THERE TO BE A -- IT IS NOT.
15:36:34 WE JUST NEED HELP WITH CONTROLLING THE SITUATION.
15:36:37 SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
15:36:38 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM AVAILABLE.
15:36:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
15:36:42 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
15:36:44 AND WE WILL GO TO THE DOWNTOWN.
15:36:46 I THINK LYNDA IS NEXT.
15:36:49 >>LYNDA REMUND: I'M LYNDA REMUND, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE
15:37:01 TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
15:37:02 THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY.
15:37:03 I WILL BE BRIEF AS WELL.
15:37:04 SO I WILL JUST TELL YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE
15:37:07 ARE WORKING ON, AND THE PARTNERS AND THE INITIATIVES THAT WE
15:37:10 HAVE ON OUR PLATE.
15:37:12 AND AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE TAMPA
15:37:17 POLICE DEPARTMENT SINCE 1994 WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THE
15:37:21 DOWNTOWN SECURITY NETWORK AND HOMELESSNESS HAS ALWAYS BEEN
15:37:25 ON THAT AGENDA AND PART OF WHAT WE DO DOWNTOWN.
15:37:28 SO WITH THAT, AND BRETT OWEN, CAPTAIN OWEN, EXPLAINED IT
15:37:35 VERY WELL IN THIS PARTNERSHIP, TALKED A LOT ABOUT ONE OF THE
15:37:40 THINGS WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM ON IS THAT THEY COME THROUGH
15:37:42 AND DO A 4 A.M. SWEEP, OUR CLEAN TEAM COMES IN BEHIND THEM
15:37:47 AT 6 P.M.
15:37:48 WE HAVE SEEN AN UPTICK IN HOMELESSNESS IN DOWNTOWN.
15:37:52 WE ARE CERTAINLY GETTING MORE CALLS REGARDING HOMELESS
15:37:56 ISSUES.
15:37:59 LAST YEAR ABOUT TEN MONTHS AGO WE HIRED A HOMELESS LIAISON
15:38:05 WHO HAS TO DATE, HE HASN'T BEEN WITH US A YEAR BUT HE HAS
15:38:09 ALREADY HELPED, HAD AN IMPACT ON ABOUT 200 INDIVIDUALS.
15:38:12 SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE IS DOING IS GETTING PLACEMENT
15:38:16 INTO TEMPORARY HOUSING, HE'S ASSISTING PEOPLE WITH TRANSIT,
15:38:20 GETTING THEM BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES, HE'S DIRECTING PEOPLE
15:38:23 TO PHYSICAL HEALTH RELATED SERVICES AND GIVING THEM BASIC
15:38:28 AMENITIES.
15:38:29 WE ARE PUTTING OUT A PAMPHLET THAT WE ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT
15:38:35 RIGHT NOW THAT'S GOING TO BE HANDED OUT TO THE HOMELESS
15:38:38 POPULATION WITH ALL KINDS OF RESOURCE NUMBERS ON THERE, AND
15:38:42 PLACES THAT THEY CAN GO FOR HELP.
15:38:45 WHILE HOUSING IS VERY IMPORTANT, WE ALSO FEEL LIKE IT HAS TO
15:38:49 BE COUPLED WITH THE RESOURCE CENTER, AND WE VERY MUCH
15:38:53 SUPPORT THE HOPE TAMPA RESOURCE CENTER THAT THE CITY IS
15:38:57 WORKING ON.
15:38:58 I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO BE A FABULOUS PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO
15:39:03 BE ABLE TO GO TO GET MANY OF THE SERVICES IN ADDITION TO
15:39:06 HOUSING.
15:39:08 MANY COUNTRIES, CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, I'M SURE YOU ARE
15:39:14 VERY MUCH AWARE OF THEM.
15:39:15 ONE THAT COMES TO MIND TO ME IS SAN ANTONIO.
15:39:18 THEY DO A GREAT JOB WITH HAVING THESE HOST CENTERS.
15:39:21 ST. PETE AS WELL.
15:39:22 SO WE ARE PARTNERING WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, CITY
15:39:26 STAFF, THE MAYOR, WE HELD SEVERAL MEETINGS, SOMETIMES ON AN
15:39:31 DAILY BASIS, WE ARE IN DISCUSSION WITH TAMPA OWEN AND THE
15:39:35 POLICE DEPARTMENT.
15:39:36 OUR HOMELESS LIAISON IS WORKING VERY, VERY CLOSELY WITH THE
15:39:39 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HOMELESS LIAISONS, AND LIKE I
15:39:45 SAID, IT IS A FULL-TIME JOB JUST TO BE OUT THERE TALKING TO
15:39:50 HOMELESS POPULATION, AND SEE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.
15:39:55 I WILL SAY FROM THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH THE
15:39:59 HOMELESS POPULATION, PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT ON THE STREET, THAT
15:40:06 THE ISSUES THAT WE SEE WITH THE REASON FOR THEM BEING OUT ON
15:40:10 THE STREET ARE MENTAL ILLNESS.
15:40:13 WE DO FIND THAT SOME SAY IT IS BY CHOICE, THEY DO NOT WANT
15:40:19 TO GONE TO INTO A RESOURCE CENTER, AND THEN ECONOMIC
15:40:22 HARDSHIPS.
15:40:22 SO THESE ARE THREE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT WE HEAR OWN A
15:40:26 CONSTANT BASIS OF WHY PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE.
15:40:29 LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE SEEN AN UPTICK IN THAT.
15:40:33 AS MR. GRAND WAS JUST SPEAKING ABOUT, IT IS AN ISSUE WITH
15:40:37 HAVING TO PICK UP HUMAN WASTE ON A DAILY BASIS AND A LOT OF
15:40:41 TRASH ISSUES, IN ADDITION TO PANHANDLING.
15:40:45 THE RESTAURANTS WILL OFTEN CONTACT US, AND TPD TO ADDRESS
15:40:51 PANHANDLING ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN.
15:40:58 WE HAVE JUST INSTALLED A PORTABLE PRESSURE WASHER IN THE
15:41:01 LAST COUPLE OF DAYS THAT WILL DO NOTHING BUT ADDRESS --
15:41:12 [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~] BECAUSE IT IS OUT OF CONTROL DOWN HERE.
15:41:15 THERE ARE NO PUBLIC RESTROOMS FOR THEM TO USE SO THAT IS A
15:41:18 PROBLEM, I WILL SAY.
15:41:22 WE ARE HOLDING STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS WITH DOWNTOWN
15:41:24 STAKEHOLDERS, BUSINESS OWNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS, RESIDENTS,
15:41:31 ABOUT WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, TRYING TO HELP ELIMINATE THAT, OR
15:41:36 HELP THEM WITH THAT.
15:41:37 SOME OF THE SERVICES, THE RESOURCE AMENITIES THAT WE WORK
15:41:42 WITH CLOSELY ARE GACCO, SAINT VINCENT DEPAUL, HEALTH CARE
15:41:51 MINISTRIES, AND TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CITY STAFF.
15:41:54 THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING FROM OUR END
15:41:57 TO TRY TO HELP THE HOMELESS SITUATION.
15:42:00 AND LIKE I SAID, WE VERY MUCH SUPPORT THE HOPE TAMPA
15:42:03 RESOURCE CENTER THAT THE CITY IS PROPOSING TO OPEN SOMETIME
15:42:07 NEXT YEAR.
15:42:08 I THINK IT WOULD BE -- FOR ALL OF US WHO ARE LOOK INFORM
15:42:14 THAT TEMPORARY HOUSING, AND ALSO THOSE SERVICES THAT MUST BE
15:42:17 COUPLED WITH THAT TO HELP THEM PROGRESS AND HAVE A BETTER
15:42:23 LIFE, LIFESTYLE.
15:42:26 AGAIN I AM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
15:42:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
15:42:29 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
15:42:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, LYNDA, FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
15:42:36 IT'S COMPREHENSIVE AND I AM GLAD YOU ARE WORKING WITH
15:42:38 VARIOUS PARTNERS ON THIS DIFFICULT ISSUE.
15:42:42 IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT ISSUES THAT ANY OF
15:42:44 US FACE IN PUBLIC SERVICE.
15:42:48 A SIMPLE QUESTION.
15:42:50 AND I APOLOGIZE FOR MY IGNORANCE ON THIS.
15:42:52 I RECOGNIZE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC RESTROOMS.
15:42:57 YOU GUYS HAVE MONEY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
15:43:01 WHAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT OUT SOME PORT-O-LETS, YOU
15:43:04 KNOW, IN APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS?
15:43:08 WE ALL RECOGNIZE PEOPLE HAVE TO GO.
15:43:11 IT WOULD BE BETTER TO GO IN A PORT-O-LET THAN ELSEWHERE.
15:43:14 >>LYNDA REMUND: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN, FOR BRINGING THAT
15:43:19 UP.
15:43:20 WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION LAST WEEK.
15:43:22 I THINK THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE STARTING.
15:43:23 I MEAN, WE HAVE REALLY -- IT'S JUST BEEN ABOUT TEN MONTHS
15:43:28 FOR US THAT WE HAVE A FULL-TIME PERSON ON STAFF WHO HAS
15:43:32 REALLY BEEN CONCENTRATING ON THIS ISSUE, AND THAT CERTAINLY
15:43:35 IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE ARE HAVING NOW.
15:43:37 SO, YES, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED FOR
15:43:43 SURE.
15:43:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: KEEP US POSTED ON THE PORT-A-POTTIES.
15:43:46 >>LYNDA REMUND: WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT.
15:43:49 THANK YOU.
15:43:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
15:43:50 WE THANK YOU SO MUCH.
15:43:51 THANKS FOR JOINING US THIS AFTERNOON.
15:43:54 BACK TO MS. HENDERSON NOW?
15:43:57 >>KAYON HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
15:43:58 THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
15:44:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION THIS
15:44:02 AFTERNOON.
15:44:02 WE KNOW IT WAS LATE.
15:44:04 WE APOLOGIZE.
15:44:05 IT'S BEEN A BUSY, BUSY DAY.
15:44:07 THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
15:44:08 >>KAYON HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
15:44:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, CITY CLERK, WOULD YOU COME TO
15:44:19 THE PODIUM, PLEASE?
15:44:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS SHE IN TROUBLE?
15:44:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SHE KEEPS US OUT OF TROUBLING.
15:44:27 IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
15:44:31 WE KNOW YOU DO DOUBLE DUTIES IN THAT HOUSE OVER THERE.
15:44:34 WE WANT TO WISH YOU A HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
15:44:38 [ APPLAUSE ]
15:44:47 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU.
15:44:48 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:44:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND ENJOY YOUR DAY.
15:44:53 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:44:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE LOVE YOU, SHIRLEY.
15:44:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 5, I THINK WE HAVE NUMBER 5.
15:45:11 RANDY GOERS?
15:45:13 OKAY.
15:45:13 >>RANDY GOERS: CAN YOU HEAR ME?
15:45:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
15:45:21 >>RANDY GOERS: CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR.
15:45:24 I HAVE A QUICK UPDATE ON A FEW OVERRIDES.
15:45:29 I HAVE A PRESENTATION.
15:45:30 I CAN TAKE CONTROL IF YOU WILL ALLOW ME TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
15:46:10 SHOULD HAVE IT UP IN A SECOND.
15:46:11 >> TIME IS UP.
15:46:18 [ LAUGHTER ]
15:46:27 >>RANDY GOERS: HERE WE GO.
15:46:28 CAN YOU SEE IT?
15:46:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE SEE IT.
15:46:32 >>RANDY GOERS: LET ME RUN THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY.
15:46:34 I KNOW YOU HAVE A BUSY DAY.
15:46:35 JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON OUR SEA LEVEL RISE, GIVE YOU A
15:46:44 STATUS OF OUR RECOMMENDATION.
15:46:45 JUST BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL
15:46:49 UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
15:46:53 SEA LEVEL RISE AND STORM SURGE.
15:46:55 THE MAP ON THE RIGHT, STORM SURGE, ASSOCIATED WITH
15:46:57 HURRICANES, A LARGE PART OF THE WATER THAT COMES IN VERY
15:47:01 QUICKLY AND HAS A LOT OF DAMAGE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
15:47:04 BUT TODAY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SEA LEVEL RISE.
15:47:07 IT'S DIFFERENT.
15:47:07 IT'S THAT GRADUAL RISE OF WATER, REALLY TALKING HERE IN
15:47:15 TAMPA 40, 50 YEARS INTO THE FUTURE.
15:47:21 SO AN IMPENDING DISASTER LIKE STORM SURGE.
15:47:26 THIS IS A GRAPH SHOWING THE SEA LEVEL RISE PROJECTION.
15:47:30 THE UPPER LINE, A HIGH LEVEL PROJECTION.
15:47:34 THE 2075 LINE IS SIGNIFICANT IN THAT THE BEST PRACTICES
15:47:40 AROUND THE COUNTRY AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD, A 50 YEAR
15:47:45 TIME HORIZON FOR PLANNING FOR SEA LEVEL RISE BECAUSE MOVING
15:47:49 INTO THE FUTURE, A LOT MORE UNCERTAINTY, PRETTY FAR OUT, 100
15:47:55 YEARS OUT.
15:47:55 BUT 50 YEARS IS A RECOGNIZED THRESHOLD FOR SEA LEVEL RISE.
15:47:59 THIS GIVES YOU A MAP OF AN IDEA OF THE SEA LEVEL RISE, WHAT
15:48:04 OCCURS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA BASED ON OUR BEST MAPPING, 2045,
15:48:09 WHICH IS 120 YEARS FROM NOW.
15:48:14 WHEN YOU HAVE A LEVEL OF SEA LEVEL RISE IT'S VERY MINIMAL.
15:48:17 IN 2060 WE START SEEING PARTS OF SOUTH TAMPA AFFECTED.
15:48:23 2075, THAT'S A 50 YEAR HORIZON, THE WESTERN PORTION OF
15:48:29 CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT UNDER SEA LEVEL RISE, AND OF
15:48:35 COURSE 2100 MORE OF AN EFFECT.
15:48:44 I WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
15:48:45 THERE'S A COUPLE STUDIES WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STUDIES THAT
15:48:52 HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
15:48:53 THIRD IS THE RESILIENT TAMPA BAY.
15:48:57 THE STORMWATER -- COMPLETED IN 2020.
15:49:02 SECOND STUDY WAS COMPLETED IN TO 2021 AND DEALT WITH THE
15:49:05 LAND REGULATORY IMPACT, SEA LEVEL RISE.
15:49:08 THE SITUATION THAT WE LOOKED AT WITH STORMWATER, STORMWATER
15:49:18 OUTFALL IN THIS I AM ANNAL WERE AT A SEA LEVEL RISE, LEVEL
15:49:28 OF THE RIVER, AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF -- MORE OF SEA LEVEL
15:49:34 RISE?
15:49:34 HOW WOULD THEY AFFECT THE OUTFALL, MORE IMPORTANTLY HOW IT
15:49:40 WOULD AFFECT THE OUTFALL IN THE UPPER AREA?
15:49:54 WE STARTED ASKING A QUESTION WHAT WOULD HAPPEN OVERTIME IN
15:49:57 TERMS.
15:49:58 BUILDING STRUCTURE?
15:49:59 YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT WE DON'T HAVE REALLY STRUCTURAL IMPACT
15:50:05 2060.
15:50:05 MAYBE IN 2075.
15:50:11 LET ME RUN THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY.
15:50:14 MOVE PAST HERE JUST TO GET TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
15:50:16 I KNOW THAT YOU ARE SHORT ON TIME.
15:50:20 BOTH STUDIES HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
15:50:26 IMPACTS.
15:50:27 THE AREA YOU SEE IN THE SHADED AREA, THE RECOMMENDATIONS
15:50:30 THAT WERE COMMON, PUBLIC EDUCATION PROGRAM, LOOKING AT THE
15:50:37 STRATEGY, THE SEAWALL INVENTORY, OUR CRITICAL FACILITIES,
15:50:41 AND THEN OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS, STORMWATER.
15:50:50 SO I WILL RUN THROUGH REAL QUICKLY OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM
15:50:56 SOME OF OUR STATUS.
15:50:57 THEY ARE BROKEN UP INTO ACTIONS THAT WE SEE, ACTIONS THAT WE
15:51:01 ARE LOOKING FOR TODAY, AND THEN ACTIONS THAT WE THINK WE
15:51:07 WILL LOOK TOWARDS IN THE FUTURE.
15:51:08 SOME OF OUR ACTIONS IS THE CLIMATE PLAN, REGARDING THE
15:51:18 MOVING FORWARD WITH.
15:51:19 WE ARE CHARGED WITH A SEA LEVEL RISE DESIGNATION PROGRAM.
15:51:27 WE THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN BENCHMARKS TO A SUCCESSFUL
15:51:31 SEA LEVEL RISE PROGRAM, IS THE EDUCATION THAT GOES WITH IT
15:51:36 FOR POLICYMAKERS AND FOR CITIZENS AS WELL.
15:51:40 WE ARE WORKING WITH FDOT, ESTABLISHED A ROADWAY ELEVATION
15:51:46 AND I THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THEM TO
15:51:48 COORDINATE WITH THEM, AND TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT
15:51:52 ORGANIZATION THAT MAY APPLY TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
15:51:57 WE WANT TO REFINE OUR HEY DROLL I CAN MODEL, THE STORMWATER
15:52:03 DEPARTMENT -- HYDRAULIC MODEL, SEA LEVEL RISE, IF SEA LEVEL
15:52:10 DOES RISE.
15:52:11 NEXT YEAR I THINK WE WANT TO BRING BACK A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
15:52:18 POLICY THAT LOOKS PRIMARILY AT HOW WE INVEST IN THE
15:52:23 COMMUNITY OVERTIME.
15:52:24 HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE ALIGNED
15:52:27 WITH THE SEA LEVEL RISE, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE MANY
15:52:31 YEARS THAT WE STILL HAVE TO SERVE THE EXISTING COMMUNITY BUT
15:52:35 STILL HAVE TO PLAN FOR AREAS THAT MIGHT BE INUNDATED WITH
15:52:40 WATER IN THE LONG RUN.
15:52:41 SO WE WILL BE BRINGING BACK SOME POLICIES THAT WE THINK IS
15:52:46 GOING TO BE HELPING IN THE FUTURE.
15:52:53 THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GEARED TOWARDS ACTIONS, PLANS,
15:53:04 SUGGESTED RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZE THERE'S STILL
15:53:07 QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION THAT NEEDED TO BE GATHERED,
15:53:10 ESPECIALLY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COULD HAVE OF THE SEA
15:53:15 LEVEL RISE IMPACTS, THE BENEFITS, ANDS ALSO MAKING SURE THAT
15:53:20 WE COULD HAVE THE RIGHT POLICIES AND SO.
15:53:26 WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SEEKING GRANTS TO COMPLETE THE
15:53:29 CRITICAL FACILITIES, UNDERSTAND REALLY WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF
15:53:33 SEA LEVEL RISE ON OUR FACILITIES IN THE AREA, LOOKING AT THE
15:53:38 SEAWALL CONDITIONS INVENTORY AND OUR STORMWATER OUTFALL
15:53:42 INVENTORY A LITTLE CLOSER.
15:53:46 A FOLLOW-UP TO THOSE PREVIOUS STUDIES, GOING TO BE LOOKING
15:53:50 AT HOW TO ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY AFTER A DISASTER, PLANNING
15:53:58 FOR THE CITY IN THE FUTURE.
15:54:00 MUCH OF THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY SEA LEVEL
15:54:04 RISE, BUT THE IDEA STUDYING OVER TIME, AND THE REST OF THE
15:54:13 CITY, REGARDLESS OF THE FUTURE.
15:54:18 ADAPTATION AREAS WAS ANOTHER STUDY THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
15:54:22 AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THIS MAP, SEA LEVEL RISE IS NOT
15:54:27 ANTICIPATED TO AFFECT THE CITY UNIFORMLY.
15:54:30 I THINK IT'S GOING TO OCCUR IN A CERTAIN AREA, AT CERTAIN
15:54:33 LEVELS.
15:54:33 THE STATE HAS A TOOL CALLED ADAPTATION AREA THAT WE THINK
15:54:37 THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SOME BENEFIT IN APPLYING TO THESE AREAS.
15:54:43 WE ARE LOOKING AGAIN AT A GRANT, AND APPLYING IT AS WE MOVE
15:54:49 FORWARD.
15:54:51 LIVING SHORELINES, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF
15:54:54 LIVING SHORELINES, AND WE WILL BE SEEKING GRANTS AND FUNDING
15:55:00 TO HELP TRANSFORM AREAS WHICH ARE SUSCEPTIBLE TO SEA LEVEL
15:55:03 RISE, AND SEA LEVEL RISE WHICH CAN PROVIDE SOME HELP TO THE
15:55:11 COMMUNITY IN THE SHORT RUN AND THAN SEA LEVEL IN THE LONG
15:55:14 RUN.
15:55:15 THERE'S A COUPLE OF ACTIONS THAT OUR STUDY IDENTIFIED.
15:55:18 THESE ARE VERY PROGRESSIVE ACTIONS.
15:55:21 TRANSFER DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, EASEMENT, WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF
15:55:26 DISCUSSION AND LITERATURE AND SO FORTH.
15:55:29 THEY ARE VERY COMPLICATED MECHANISMS.
15:55:34 THERE'S A VERY LARGE PRICE TAG ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
15:55:38 WE LOOK AT THESE AS POSSIBLE ACTIONS BUT PROBABLY NOT
15:55:41 SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD APPLY UNTIL LATER IN THE SEA LEVEL
15:55:46 RISE CYCLE.
15:55:47 SO GIVES US TIME TO LOOK AT SEA LEVEL IN MORE IN-DEPTH.
15:55:52 OUR NEXT STEPS IS TO FORMALIZE THESE ACTIONS.
15:55:58 WE WANT TO FINISH THE GRANT APPLICATIONS, ALL THE VARIANTS.
15:56:05 WE WANT TO FINALIZE THOSE, WHEN WE COME BACK HOPEFULLY, WE
15:56:09 WILL SEE THOSE PLANS, BE ABLE TO PUT THAT INTO A MANAGEMENT
15:56:13 PLAN, SET THE OPERATORS FOR NEXT YEAR IN TERMS OF WHICH
15:56:17 STUDIES WILL BE DONE, HOW THAT LAYS INTO A WORK PLAN, AND
15:56:23 THEN PROVIDE FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL, TO THE
15:56:28 PUBLIC.
15:56:32 IN OUR SEA LEVEL RISE MEETINGS THAT WE HOST WITH LAND
15:56:36 REGULATORY PROJECT INVOLVE THREE LARGE MEETINGS, A VIRTUAL
15:56:41 MEETING, WE HELD A WORKSHOP, SEA LEVEL CONFERENCE THAT
15:56:46 FEATURES A FEW NATIONAL EXPERTS IN THE SEA LEVEL RISE AREA,
15:56:52 AS WELL AS SOME LOCAL INDUSTRY INDIVIDUALS, AND ALSO MEMBERS
15:56:55 OF THE PUBLIC THAT WERE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS.
15:56:59 WE SEE THIS REALLY AS A START OF A COMMUNITY DIALOGUE OVER
15:57:03 THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS AS WE BEGIN TO FORMULATE THE
15:57:07 LONG-TERM SEA LEVEL RISE STRATEGY AND LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR
15:57:11 MOVING THE CITY TO A MUCH MORE RESILIENT POSTURE IN THE LONG
15:57:15 RUN.
15:57:16 SO WITH THAT, THAT WAS A VERY QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE
15:57:20 AT WITH SEA LEVEL RISE.
15:57:22 I CAN SAY THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED WHAT WE THINK ARE SOME OF
15:57:25 THE BASE INFORMATIONS, AND THERE'S STILL MORE INFORMATION
15:57:32 THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPILED AND WE ARE WORKING TOWARD.
15:57:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
15:57:38 MR. DINGFELDER.
15:57:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RANDY, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
15:57:42 THE FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE
15:57:48 TIMING IS, BUT THE MONEY THAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE FROM
15:57:52 THAT PROGRAM, HAVE WE SORT OF TARGETED ANY OF THAT MONEY
15:57:58 TOWARD ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS, OR HARDENING, OR OUR OWN, YOU
15:58:05 KNOW, OUR OWN UTILITIES INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, OR ANY OF
15:58:12 THAT?
15:58:13 HAVE YOU HEARD ANY OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS?
15:58:16 >>RANDY GOERS: I KNOW THERE WERE SOME -- THE GRANT
15:58:24 APPLICATIONS WERE MADE.
15:58:25 I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT WERE
15:58:29 REQUESTED FOR THIS MEETING.
15:58:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
15:58:32 IF YOU HEAR ANYTHING, LET US KNOW.
15:58:34 THANKS.
15:58:34 >>RANDY GOERS: SURE.
15:58:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
15:58:38 MR. SHELBY, WE HAVE 5:01 TODAY, CORRECT?
15:58:43 SO RIGHT NOW, IT'S GOING ON 4:00.
15:58:46 WE HAVE ROUGHLY ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE ITEMS.
15:58:51 WE WILL NOT GET TO ALL FIVE ITEMS TODAY.
15:58:53 I THINK MAYBE 11, 10, AND MAYBE 7.
15:58:58 BUT 8 AND 9 I KNOW WILL PROBABLY BE LONG.
15:59:01 SO I WANT TO ASK WHAT YOUR PLEASURE IS, GENTLEMEN, IN
15:59:04 REFERENCE TO 8 AND 9, AND GET ANOTHER DATE, A SOONER DATE
15:59:10 FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE
15:59:12 LONG.
15:59:12 I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY GET TO THE OTHERS PRETTY QUICKLY.
15:59:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
15:59:20 YOU HAVE COPIES, THE CALENDAR IN FRONT OF YOU.
15:59:25 FOR NUMBER 8, IT LOOKS LIKE --
15:59:31 >>BILL CARLSON: THESE ARE UNDER THE WORKSHOP?
15:59:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT NECESSARILY.
15:59:36 IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH TIME COUNCIL IS GOING TO ALLOCATE
15:59:40 TOWARD EVERY ITEM ON THAT AGENDA.
15:59:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT.
15:59:43 BECAUSE I KNEW 8, POLICE, FIRE, AND I WANT TIME TO GO OVER
15:59:50 THAT BECAUSE WE HAD SEVERAL CALLS, AND GET DETAILS ON THAT.
15:59:56 SO I AM LOOKING QUICKLY, IF ANYTHING, OCTOBER 7th, ITEM
16:00:03 NUMBER 8 --
16:00:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR THAT.
16:00:11 THEN YOU HAVE COMMENDATION, REVIEW HEARING, AND SIX STAFF
16:00:17 REPORTS.
16:00:22 IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO COUNCIL, NOT ADDING ANYTHING
16:00:31 ADDITIONAL.
16:00:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OCTOBER 7th, ITEM NUMBER 8.
16:00:37 ACCEPTABLE, COUNCIL?
16:00:38 ALL RIGHT.
16:00:41 AND ITEM NUMBER 9, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE LONGER THAN THE
16:00:44 TEXT AMENDMENT.
16:00:45 THAT'S GOING TO BE LENGTHY.
16:00:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW WHETHER STAFF HAS ANY
16:00:51 RECOMMENDATIONS WITH REGARD TO THAT.
16:00:52 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ANY OF THESE ITEMS, REGARDING TO STAFF,
16:00:58 TIMELINE.
16:00:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY TIMELINE ON
16:01:02 NUMBER 8.
16:01:02 I THINK IT'S INFORMATION AND POLICY CHANGES.
16:01:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 9, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT DOES OR
16:01:07 DOES NOT HAVE A TIME FRAME.
16:01:09 I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR THAT.
16:01:11 BUT OTHERWISE, NOT HEARING FROM THEM, WHATEVER COUNCIL'S
16:01:14 PLEASURE IS BASED ON THE CALENDAR.
16:01:16 >> CHAIRMAN GUDES?
16:01:25 THIS IS CAROLE POST, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT ECONOMIC
16:01:29 OPPORTUNITY.
16:01:30 AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO SPECIFIC TIME FRAME DRIVING ITEM
16:01:32 NUMBER 9 SO WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE A FEW EXTRA WEEKS TO
16:01:36 ACCOMMODATE YOUR CALENDAR IF THAT'S HELPFUL.
16:01:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
16:01:41 LET'S GO TO OCTOBER 21st.
16:01:42 LOOK AT THAT.
16:01:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: POINT OUT TO COUNCIL, ONE, TWO, THREE --
16:01:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT ABOUT THE 28th?
16:01:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 28th IS A WORKSHOP BUT ALSO YOU HAVE
16:01:56 LAND DEVELOPMENT.
16:01:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HEAVY TOO FAR.
16:02:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE 28th.
16:02:07 BUT MY SUGGESTION IS YOU DO IT EARLY ON IN THE AGENDA,
16:02:10 PERHAPS AS A COURTESY THEN.
16:02:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OCTOBER 28th, GENTLEMEN?
16:02:16 OCTOBER 28th?
16:02:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD THAT BE PLACED AROUND THE SAME TIME,
16:02:21 THE SAME ITEM THAT DOES HAVE MRS. FEELEY?
16:02:25 COULD.
16:02:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S FINE.
16:02:28 OCTOBER 28th.
16:02:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
16:02:30 >>THE CLERK: COULD WE HAVE A MOTION FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
16:02:34 8 AND NUMBER 9?
16:02:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMEBODY MOVE 8 AND 9.
16:02:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 8 TO OCTOBER 7th.
16:02:42 AND 9, OCTOBER 28th.
16:02:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED.
16:02:47 MR. CARLSON SECONDED.
16:02:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:02:49 MOTION CARRIED.
16:02:51 WE CAN GET THROUGH THOSE LAST ONES SO YOU CAN HAVE ENOUGH
16:02:55 TIME TO DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO.
16:02:57 TONIGHT'S MEETING IS GOING TO BE LONG.
16:02:59 MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
16:03:01 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW MANY WORKSHOPS DO WE HAVE LEFT TODAY,
16:03:04 SIR?
16:03:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 10, 11.
16:03:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD REQUEST THAT 11 BE MOVED TO THE
16:03:11 NEXT AVAILABLE ONE.
16:03:12 IT CAN GO THREE, FOUR MONTHS.
16:03:14 IT'S NOTHING THAT'S TIME SENSITIVE.
16:03:17 WE JUST NEVER HAD A WORKSHOP, AND I THINK DEALING WITH 3647
16:03:23 AND I WOULD HATE TO BE TEN MINUTES AND AN HOUR ESPECIALLY
16:03:27 GIVEN THE MAJOR ISSUES ENCOUNTERED BY K-BAR RANCH.
16:03:32 THE.
16:03:32 >> JANUARY?
16:03:35 >> YES, SIR.
16:03:35 THAT'S COOL.
16:03:37 >>LUIS VIERA: AND NUMBERS 1 AND 2 ON THE AGENDA SO THIS
16:03:41 DOESN'T HAPPEN.
16:03:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JANUARY 27th THERE ARE TWO
16:03:45 COMMENDATIONS AND TWO ITEMS ALREADY SET.
16:03:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: JANUARY 27th?
16:03:53 >> SO MOVED.
16:03:54 >> SECOND.
16:03:54 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. DINGFELDER MOVED IT.
16:03:57 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
16:03:58 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:03:59 ANY OPPOSED?
16:04:00 MOTION CARRIED.
16:04:02 ALL RIGHT.
16:04:03 SO WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 7.
16:04:09 ITEM NUMBER 7.
16:04:15 >>GREG SPEARMAN: DIRECTOR OF PURCHASING.
16:04:16 AND ITEM NUMBER 7 IS A SOLE SOURCE, SINGLE SOURCE
16:04:21 PRESENTATION THAT I WILL BE MAKING TO YOU.
16:04:25 AND JUST BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
16:04:29 COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE ARE TWO CONTRACTING DENTS
16:04:33 WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
16:04:36 THIS PRESENTATION IS ON PURCHASING.
16:04:38 PURCHASING IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACQUISITION OF MATERIALS,
16:04:41 SUPPLIES, EQUIPMENT, AND SOME SERVICES.
16:04:46 AND THE OTHER CONTRACT DEPARTMENT IS CONTRACT
16:04:49 ADMINISTRATION.
16:04:50 THEY HANDLE CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION RELATED SERVICES, AND
16:04:53 OF COURSE CCNA.
16:04:55 SO IF WE COULD HAVE THE STAFF TO PLEASE BRING UP THE
16:04:57 PRESENTATION.
16:05:02 LET'S GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, PLEASE.
16:05:06 SO THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AUTHORITY IS BASED ON THE
16:05:08 FOLLOWING.
16:05:09 CITY CHARTER, IN PARTICULAR 2-276.
16:05:16 AND THE BEST PRACTICES, AND ALSO DEVELOPMENT PURCHASING.
16:05:21 THE CITY HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF THIS ORGANIZATION FOR ABOUT 45
16:05:25 CONSECUTIVE YEARS.
16:05:26 AND THIS IS THE NATION'S PREEMINENT ORGANIZATION FOR
16:05:31 PURCHASING, TRAINING, STANDARDS, EDUCATION, AND
16:05:35 CERTIFICATION.
16:05:36 OF COURSE WE ALSO HAVE CITY POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT
16:05:39 DRIVE OUR CITY AS WELL.
16:05:41 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
16:05:43 SO ON OUR AGENDA TODAY WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF
16:05:46 THE BIDDING METHODS, SOLE SOURCE PURCHASES, TALK ABOUT
16:05:53 SINGLE SOURCE PURCHASES, PURCHASING VALIDATION, REGARDING
16:06:00 SINGLE SOURCE PURCHASES.
16:06:02 SOME OF THE DRIVERS THAT REALLY DRIVE SOLE SOURCE PURCHASES,
16:06:07 OH TALK ABOUT SINGLE AND SOLE SOURCE PURCHASES AS OF THE
16:06:13 PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.
16:06:14 THEN WE WILL OPEN UP TO FLOOR TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
16:06:17 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
16:06:19 SO THIS SLIDE BASICALLY GIVES AN OVERVIEW OF THE TYPES OF
16:06:22 BIDDING THAT WE CURRENTLY USE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
16:06:26 WE HAVE -- THESE ARE PURCHASES THAT ARE BETWEEN 2,000 AND
16:06:32 25,000.
16:06:34 THEY ARE HANDLED THROUGH AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM.
16:06:38 WE ALSO HAVE COMPETITIVE BIDS, PURSE FROM $25,000 AND OVER,
16:06:45 AND THEY ARE ADVERTISED.
16:06:47 AND THE THING ABOUT FORMAL -- FORMAL SEALED COMPETITIVE BIDS
16:06:53 IS THE AWARD IS BASED ON THE LOWEST PRICE ALL OTHER FACTS
16:06:59 BEING EQUAL, THE AWARD IS PRIMARILY BASED ON PRICE.
16:07:02 WE ALSO HAVE WHAT IS KNOWN AS SEALED COMPETITIVE REQUEST
16:07:07 PROPOSALS AND THESE ARE FOR PURCHASE TRANSACTIONS AT
16:07:11 $125,000 OR OVER.
16:07:13 PRICE IS NOT THE ONLY FACTOR.
16:07:14 WE HAVE OTHER FACTORS THAT GO INTO AN RFP.
16:07:18 WE LOOKED AT MBE PARTICIPATION, EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY
16:07:23 PARTICIPATION.
16:07:23 WE LOOK AT THE REFERENCES OF THE PROPOSER.
16:07:27 WE LOOK AT THEIR APPROACH TO THE PROJECT.
16:07:28 WE HAVE LOOK AT THE PROJECT CHANGES.
16:07:30 THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT GO INTO AWARDING AN
16:07:34 RFP BASED UPON A 100 POINT SCALE.
16:07:37 AGAIN, PRICE IS NOT THE SOLE DETERMINANT FACTOR.
16:07:41 ALL THESE FACTORS ARE COMBINED TOGETHER.
16:07:42 WE ALSO HAVE WHAT IS KNOWN AS A REQUEST FOR APPLICATION.
16:07:46 AND THIS IS A PROCESS WE USE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DID THE
16:07:49 SCOOTER PILOT PROGRAM.
16:07:51 WE HAVE WHAT IS KNOWN AS REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.
16:07:54 THIS IS PRIMARILY USED FOR REAL ESTATE APPRAISAL SERVICES.
16:07:58 THEN WE HAVE SINGLE SOURCE PURCHASES.
16:08:01 AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOLE SOURCE PURCHASES.
16:08:03 LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
16:08:08 SO WHAT ARE SOLE SOURCE PURCHASES?
16:08:11 A SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE IS A TYPE OF PURCHASE THAT IS THE
16:08:17 ONLY ONE OF ITS KIND THAT IS ONLY AVAILABLE FROM ONE SOURCE,
16:08:20 OR IT MAY BE AN ITEM WITH UNIQUE QUALITIES AND FEATURES AS
16:08:25 COMPARED TO SIMILAR PRODUCTS.
16:08:28 SOLE SOURCE PURCHASES REQUIRE THE FOLLOWING VALIDATION.
16:08:32 FIRST OF ALL, THE DEPARTMENT HEAD MUST DECLARE THAT A
16:08:35 PURCHASE IS A SOLE SOURCE, AND THIS IS BASED ON THE CITY
16:08:38 CHARTER, SECTION 8.04 (A) BUT ALSO REQUIRES COMPLETION OF
16:08:45 CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES AFFIDAVIT CERTAIN PAYING THAT
16:08:50 THE ITEM TO BE PURCHASED IS A SOLE SOURCE, AND THE SUPPLIER
16:08:53 MUST CERTAINTY IN WRITING THAT THEY ARE THE SOLE PROVIDER OF
16:08:59 PRODUCT AND/OR SERVICES BEING SOUGHT, AFTER PROCUREMENT
16:09:03 ANALYST REVIEWS THE ENTIRE PACKAGE FOR VERIFICATION OF
16:09:06 DOCUMENTATION.
16:09:07 NOW, SOLE SOURCE REQUESTS MUST DO TWO THINGS.
16:09:11 NUMBER ONE, IT MUST BE SIGNED BY THE DEPARTMENT HEAD WHICH
16:09:15 REQUIRES COMPLETION OF THE SOLE SOURCE AFFIDAVIT, CERTIFYING
16:09:20 THAT THE PURCHASE IS A SOLE SOURCE.
16:09:23 AND SECONDLY, IT HAS TO INCLUDE A MANUFACTURERS LETTER THAT
16:09:28 AN ITEM IS A SOLE SOURCE.
16:09:30 I WANT TO REMIND YOU, COUNCIL THAT ANYTIME WE BRING A SOLE
16:09:33 SOURCE PURCHASE TO YOU IN THE FORM OF A RESOLUTION, THE
16:09:36 AFFIDAVIT CERTIFYING THE CONDITIONS OF SOLE SOURCE AS WELL
16:09:41 AS THE MANUFACTURE STANDARD IS ALSO INCLUDED AS PART OF THE
16:09:44 RESOLUTION PACKAGE.
16:09:46 LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
16:09:52 WHAT'S IF DETERMINES OF VALIDATING THAT AN ITEM IS REALLY A
16:09:55 SOLE SOURCE?
16:09:56 THE PROCUREMENT ANALYST GOES THROUGH A DUE DILIGENCE REVIEW
16:10:01 OF SOLE SOURCE REQUEST.
16:10:02 FIRST OF ALL THERE IS THE NOTICE OF INTENT FOR SOLE SOURCE
16:10:05 THAT'S PLACED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
16:10:09 AND THAT NOTICE OF INTENT FOR SOLE SOURCE IS ON THE WEBSITE
16:10:14 AND ON THE DEMAND STAR FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE BUSINESS DAYS.
16:10:19 SO IF THERE ARE NO OTHER FIRMS THAT RESPOND TO THE SOLE
16:10:22 SOURCE, THAT PRODUCT IS THEN MOVED FORWARD AS A LEGITIMATE
16:10:27 SOLE SOURCE.
16:10:30 IF APPROVED BY PURCHASING, IF IT'S LESS THAN $100,000, OF
16:10:33 COURSE, THIS IS $100 AND OVER IS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL,
16:10:39 HOWEVER, IF ANOTHER PROVIDER STEPS FORWARD IN RESPONSE TO A
16:10:43 NOTICE OF INTENT FOR SOLE SOURCE, WITHIN THE THREE-DAY
16:10:47 BUSINESS TIME FRAME, THAT SOLE SOURCE REQUEST IS CANCELED
16:10:51 AND AN INVITATION IS RELEASED.
16:10:55 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
16:11:05 WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS FOR SOLE SOURCE REQUEST?
16:11:08 SOFTWARE.
16:11:12 ACCELA, FOR EXAMPLE.
16:11:14 MICROSOFT.
16:11:15 ANYTIME WE UPDATE THE SOFTWARE PACKAGES, WE HAVE THE GO BACK
16:11:19 TO THE ORIGINAL MANUFACTURE.
16:11:22 DESIGN AND CUSTOM MOLDS FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF EQUIPMENT AT
16:11:26 WATER AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS.
16:11:29 ALSO THE WASTEWATER ENERGY PLANT WHICH WE TACK OVER THE
16:11:32 OPERATIONS IN JUNE OF 2020.
16:11:34 SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE DRIVERS WHERE WE HAVE TO GO BACK
16:11:46 FOR PARTS FAIR TRUCKS.
16:11:56 SWEEPERS.
16:11:57 WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE MANUFACTURER FOR PARTS.
16:12:01 AUTHORIZED SALES TERRITORIES, PRODUCT AVAILABILITY, LIMITING
16:12:06 GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARY.
16:12:07 PROFESSIONAL EXPERTS SOMETIMES ARE REQUIRED.
16:12:09 AND MAY BE A SOLE SOURCE.
16:12:11 ALSO A LIMITED OR PROPRIETARY SYSTEMS WHERE ADDITIONAL
16:12:15 LICENSES MAY BE REQUIRED.
16:12:18 SPECIALIZED REPLACEMENT PARTS.
16:12:24 SO WE TALK ABOUT SOLE SOURCES AND SOME OF THE DRIVERS BEHIND
16:12:27 SOLE SOURCES.
16:12:28 LET'S TALK ABOUT SINGLE SOURCES.
16:12:30 WHAT ARE THEY?
16:12:31 THE SINGLE SOURCE PURCHASE IS A PURCHASE INVOLVING A
16:12:35 REASONABLE STANDARDIZATION OFF A PARTICULAR ITEM, USUALLY
16:12:40 INVOLVING EQUIPMENT OR COMMODITY PURCHASE.
16:12:43 SINGLE SOURCE PURCHASES ARE GENERALLY COMPETITIVE IN NATURE.
16:12:51 THE CITY IS STANDARDIZED ON THAT.
16:12:53 WE HAVE BEEN UTILIZING F-150S FOR MANY YEARS BUT IN YOU LOOK
16:12:57 IN THE GRAY AREA WE HAVE TONS OF DEALERS WITH F-150 PICKUP
16:13:02 TRUCKS.
16:13:03 SO AGAIN SINGLE SOURCES GENERALLY SPEAKING ON COMPETITIVE
16:13:08 TYPE PURCHASES.
16:13:09 OH WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ADVANTAGES OF SINGLE SOURCES IN
16:13:12 TERMS OF REASONABLE IN CENT SAYINGS PURCHASES? OBVIOUSLY
16:13:17 PARTS.
16:13:17 WE HAVE REGIONAL AUTHORIZED DISTRIBUTORS.
16:13:21 EMPLOYEE TRAINING IN TERMS OF HOW TO REPAIR THESE VEHICLES.
16:13:25 DIAGNOSTIC, WHICH IS STANDARDIZE DOLLARS, DIAGNOSING ANY
16:13:27 PROBLEMS.
16:13:28 WE ALSO HAVE TRAINING MANUALS.
16:13:31 SINGLE SOURCE THESE ITEMS.
16:13:33 WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH TRAINING MANUALS FROM MULTIPLE
16:13:36 MANUFACTURERS.
16:13:37 WE HAVE TRAINING MANUALS THAT COME FROM ONE MANUFACTURER.
16:13:40 AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE LOWER INVENTORY COSTS FOR PARTS.
16:13:44 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
16:13:46 SO LET'S LOOK AT COMPARING SEAMLESS SOURCE PURCHASES VERSUS
16:13:51 SINGLE BID RESPONSES.
16:13:53 THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.
16:13:56 SO AGAIN, A SINGLE SOURCE PURCHASE IS ONE THAT USUALLY
16:14:01 INVOLVES COMPETITION OF A REASONABLE STANDARDIZATION
16:14:06 INITIATIVE.
16:14:06 NOW, HOW DOES A SINGLE SOURCE VARY OR DIFFER FROM A SINGLE
16:14:14 BID RESPONSE?
16:14:14 A SINGLE BID RESPONSE IS A SOLICITATION INVOLVING ONLY ONE
16:14:18 BID RESPONSE DUE TO ONE OR MORE OF THE PACKAGES.
16:14:24 NO INTEREST IN BIDDING ON GOVERNMENT BIDS.
16:14:26 WE ACTUALLY INCLUDE A STATEMENT IN OUR BID PRESENTATION
16:14:31 ASKING FIRMS TO TELL US WHY THEY CHOSE NOT TO BID, AND WHEN
16:14:35 THEY DON'T, WE ACTUALLY CALL THEM.
16:14:38 SO ONE OF THE REASONS TO GET A SINGLE BID RESPONSE IS
16:14:41 BECAUSE SOME COMPANIES SAY, I JUST DON'T WANT TO BID ON
16:14:45 GOVERNMENT BIDS.
16:14:46 IT'S ALSO THE ISSUE OF LIMITED SUPPLIER BASE REGARDING
16:14:51 SHELTERED MARKET BIDS.
16:14:53 A LOT OF OUR BIDS, PARTICULARLY THOSE BETWEEN 25,000 AND
16:14:56 $100,000 AND SOME OVER $100,000 MAY BE SHELTERED MARKET
16:15:02 PARTICIPATION, SO EVEN THOUGH WE MAY HAVE MULTIPLE
16:15:05 SUPPLIERS, WE ONLY END UP GETTING ONE BID RESPONSE.
16:15:10 THE NUMBER OF ITEMS REQUESTED IN SOLICITATION ARE SOMETIMES
16:15:14 TOO LOW.
16:15:15 THAT SOMETIMES RESULTS IN A SINGLE BID.
16:15:18 MANUFACTURER TERRITORIAL RESTRICTIONS.
16:15:20 THE PROFIT MARGIN IS TOO LOW.
16:15:22 LIMITED CAPACITY TO PERFORM THE SERVICE OR SUPPLY REQUESTED
16:15:26 ITEM.
16:15:26 ALSO THE SUPPLIER HAS GREATER INTEREST IN WARRANTY AND
16:15:30 REPAIR WORK.
16:15:30 WE SEE THAT A LOT IN VEHICLE BIDS, BECAUSE THE BIDDERS TELL
16:15:35 US THAT THE MARGINS ARE SO LOW IN TERMS OF THE COMPETITION,
16:15:39 IN TERMS OF MAKING A PROFIT, THEY WOULD MUCH RATHER
16:15:42 PARTICIPATE ON THE BACK END WHEN AN ITEM HAS TO HAVE
16:15:46 WARRANTY WORK OR NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED.
16:15:49 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
16:15:50 SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PURCHASING PROCESS IN TERMS OF OUR
16:15:55 DUE DILIGENCE REGARDING SINGLE BID RESPONSE.
16:15:58 WELL, THE FIRST THING WE DO IS WE CON ADVANCE THE COMMUNITY
16:16:02 TO INQUIRE THE REASON WHY THEY DID NOT BID AND I JUST STATED
16:16:06 SOME OF THOSE FOR YOU.
16:16:07 WE ALSO DOCUMENT IN THE RESOLUTION WITH RESPONSES FROM
16:16:10 VENDORS WHO DID NOT RESPOND TO THE SOLICITATION BECAUSE WE
16:16:13 WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHAT THE REASON WAS ANYTIME THERE IS
16:16:17 A SINGLE BID RESPONSE.
16:16:20 LASTLY, WE CONSIDER REBIDDING IF ADJUSTMENTS OF SOLICITATION
16:16:28 WILL CHANGE NUMBER OF BIDS RECEIVED BASED ON CANVASSING
16:16:31 RESPONSES FROM SUPPLIERS.
16:16:33 NEXT SLIDE.
16:16:33 THIS SLIDE IS A VERY INTERESTING SLIDE, COUNCIL, BECAUSE IT
16:16:37 IS A COMPARISON OF SOLE AND SINGLE SOURCE EXPENDITURES AS A
16:16:44 PERCENTAGE TO TOTAL SPEND FOR FISCAL YEAR 19 AND FISCAL YEAR
16:16:53 20.
16:16:53 AS YOU SEE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, IN FISCAL
16:16:57 YEAR 19 WE HAD A TOTAL SPEND IN PURCHASING IN TERMS MUCH ALL
16:17:01 SOLICITATION TYPES, INVITATIONS TO BID, REQUESTS FOR
16:17:06 PROPOSAL, COOPERATIVE PURCHASING, STATE CONTRACTS, THE
16:17:09 FLORIDA SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION REQUEST FOR QUOTES, AND ALSO
16:17:13 CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES PURCHASES, TOTAL SPEND
16:17:18 407,394,698.
16:17:29 12,787,550.
16:17:35 THAT REPRESENTS ONLY ABOUT A 3.14% SPEND IN TERMS OF SOLE
16:17:40 SOURCE PURSE, SINGLE SOURCE PURCHASE COMBINED.
16:17:46 IN FY 20 WE HAD A TOTAL SPEND OF 435,436,119.
16:17:54 OF THAT, THE TOTAL PURCHASES FOR SOLE SOURCE AND SINGLE
16:17:58 SOURCE SPEND WAS 112 HAD 4,766.
16:18:05 11,244,766.
16:18:12 BOTH SINGLE SOURCE PURCHASING AND SOLE SOURCE PURCHASING
16:18:17 COMBINED.
16:18:17 WITH THAT I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
16:18:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
16:18:23 MR. CARLSON, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP FIRST, THEN MR.
16:18:26 DINGFELDER.
16:18:26 >>BILL CARLSON: THEN FOR GOING THROUGH THIS, AND YOU WENT
16:18:30 THROUGH THIS IN DETAIL WITH ME A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN I
16:18:32 ASKED THE QUESTION ALSO.
16:18:33 I APPRECIATE THAT.
16:18:37 JUST TO BE CLEAR, I KNOW YOU WENT THROUGH ALL THE
16:18:40 DEFINITIONS BUT TO BE CLEAR IF YOU PUT SOMETHING OUT TO RFP
16:18:44 AND THERE'S ONLY ONE.
16:18:45 >>SUSAN JOHNSON, WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT?
16:18:50 >> WE LOOK AT THAT AS A SINGLE BID RESPONSE.
16:18:53 NOT ONLY DO
16:18:59 MOST OF THE RFPs HAVE MULTIPLE RESPONSES.
16:19:02 >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEY JUST TOOK THE CHART DOWN, BUT THE
16:19:05 CHART THAT YOU HAD SHOWING THE PERCENTAGES, DO YOU HAPPEN TO
16:19:07 REMEMBER WHAT THE PERCENTAGES WERE, THE TWO YEARS PRIOR?
16:19:11 I THINK YOU HAD 19 AND 20 UP THERE BUT DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW
16:19:15 WHAT IT WAS FOR 17 AND 18?
16:19:17 >>GREG SPEARMAN: WE DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION,
16:19:20 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET THAT FOR
16:19:22 YOU.
16:19:24 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THAT.
16:19:26 AND I THINK AFTER LOOKING AT THIS, I THINK THAT MANY OF THE
16:19:30 COMMENTS I HAVE HEARD REALLY FALL UNDER CONTRACT
16:19:34 ADMINISTRATION, NOT PURCHASING.
16:19:36 AND COMMENTS ABOUT REAL ESTATE.
16:19:41 I CAN MAKE A MOTION AT THE END BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE
16:19:43 BRING BACK CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION AND REAL ESTATE TO BE DO
16:19:46 THE SAME.
16:19:48 TO DO THE SAME THING.
16:19:50 YOU ALL REMEMBER MR. JOHNSON AND THE BUDGET ADVISORY
16:19:54 COMMITTEE TOLD US THEY LOOK TO THEM LIKE THERE WERE A LOT OF
16:19:59 CONTRACTS UNDER CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION THAT HAD TO GO ON
16:20:01 FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND NOT CHANGED OVER.
16:20:04 AND HE AND THE COMMITTEE, OUR COMMITTEE, THOUGHT THAT WE
16:20:08 COULD SAVE MONEY BY LOOKING AT THAT.
16:20:10 SO I CAN MAKE A MOTION LATER IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE.
16:20:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
16:20:22 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE
16:20:25 CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, AND I DON'T NOBODY WHAT THE
16:20:29 DEPARTMENT IS CALLED, THE REAL ESTATE DISPOSITION, COME BACK
16:20:32 MAYBE NOVEMBER 4th TO GIVE THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT
16:20:35 MR. SPEARMAN JUST GAVE.
16:20:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
16:20:39 SECOND?
16:20:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT DATE?
16:20:42 >>BILL CARLSON: LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TIME ON NOVEMBER
16:20:44 4th.
16:20:44 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND BY MR. DINGFELDER.
16:20:47 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:20:49 CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
16:20:52 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
16:20:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUICK QUESTION, GREG.
16:20:56 THE LAST SLIDE WAS $435 MILLION.
16:20:59 DID THAT INCLUDE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, OR WAS THAT JUST
16:21:04 PURCHASE, YOU KNOW, PURCHASING MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES AND
16:21:08 VEHICLES?.
16:21:09 >>GREG SPEARMAN: ALL PURCHASE ORDERS DOES INCLUDE THE
16:21:13 AWARDS, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION MAKES, AND HOW THAT BREAKS
16:21:18 OUT WITH THE INDIVIDUAL PURCHASES THEY MAKE, AND YOU HAVE
16:21:25 SINGLE SOURCE SOURCES OR SOLE SOURCES.
16:21:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW THAT WE GET INTO THIS ISSUE OF
16:21:34 LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FOR EXAMPLE.
16:21:36 THEY LIKE TO STANDARDIZE, AND THEN THEY SEND US THE MEMOS AS
16:21:40 WE STANDARDIZE INTO THIS TYPE OF EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, AND
16:21:43 THAT JUSTIFIES, ALLEGEDLY JUSTIFIES THE SINGLE SOURCE.
16:21:50 IS YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH YOUR FELLOWS AROUND THE COUNTRY WHEN
16:21:52 YOU GO TO THE NATIONAL CONFERENCES, IS THIS STANDARD
16:21:57 PRACTICE ACROSS THE BOARD, OR DOES PURCHASING, GOVERNMENT
16:22:01 PURCHASING OFFICES PUSH BACK AND TELL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR
16:22:07 OTHER LARGE EQUIPMENT USERS TO EXPERIMENT A LITTLE BIT?
16:22:13 >>GREG SPEARMAN: TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THIS IS PRETTY
16:22:17 STANDARD.
16:22:20 THERE ARE REASONS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BASICALLY WANTS
16:22:24 TO HAVE A CERTAIN TAPE OF AMBULANCE OR CERTAIN TYPE OF FIRE
16:22:27 TRUCK.
16:22:28 THIS IS MY THIRD YEAR EXTENSION THAT I HAVE BEEN DIRECTOR OF
16:22:31 PURCHASING.
16:22:32 PRIOR TO COMING HERE I WAS DIRECTOR FOR PURCHASING FOR THE
16:22:35 CITY OF CHARLOTTE, AND THE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA.
16:22:42 AND BEFORE THEM, THE CITY OF SAVANNAH, GEORGIA.
16:22:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I FORGOT THAT, GREG.
16:22:50 I THOUGHT YOU WERE BORN HERE IN THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING.
16:22:53 THANKS A LOT.
16:22:54 >>GREG SPEARMAN: YES, YOU'RE WELCOME.
16:22:56 WE DO SEE THAT WHEN I GO TO THE NATIONAL CONFERENCES.
16:22:59 IT IS A STANDARD PRACTICE IN TERMS OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY.
16:23:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, GREG.
16:23:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYTHING ELSE FOR MR. SPEARMAN?
16:23:08 ALL RIGHT.
16:23:08 THANK YOU, SIR.
16:23:12 >>GREG SPEARMAN: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
16:23:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN, PROPOSED WITH MR.
16:23:18 SHELBY FOR A FEW CHANGES.
16:23:19 WOULD LIKE TO IN REFERENCE TO 9 AND 10 BE MOVED.
16:23:27 YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
16:23:27 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
16:23:29 I APPRECIATE IT.
16:23:30 CAROLE POST, ADMINISTRATOR FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
16:23:33 OPPORTUNITY.
16:23:33 JUST LOOKING AHEAD, SOME OF THE SCHEDULING CONCERNS THAT
16:23:39 WERE RAISED, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST A COUPLE OF CHANGES TO
16:23:43 WHAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED.
16:23:44 AND NOTING IN PARTICULAR THAT WE HAVE TARGETED AND
16:23:49 IDENTIFIED OCTOBER 28th WHERE WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO
16:23:53 BUNDLE A NUMBER OF RISK MANAGEMENT OF CITY PLANNING RELATED
16:23:57 MATTERS, AS WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO WITH A LOT OF THE
16:24:00 AGENDAS MOVING FORWARD.
16:24:03 IN ADDITION, SADLY TO SAY, THAT WILL LIKELY ABOUT MR. RANDY
16:24:10 GOERS LAST PRESENTATION OR WORKSHOP AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF
16:24:13 ITEMS WE WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT AND CLOSE
16:24:16 ON BEFORE HIS RETIREMENT.
16:24:19 SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT
16:24:22 TODAY'S ITEM NUMBER 9, WHICH WAS MOVED, CONTINUED TO OCTOBER
16:24:28 28th, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THAT BE CONTINUED TO
16:24:32 OCTOBER 1st, AND THAT TODAY'S -- 21st, AND THAT ITEM
16:24:41 NUMBER 10 BE CONTINUED TO OCTOBER 28th.
16:24:43 AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IN THE COMING DAYS, WE WILL SEEK --
16:24:51 SEPTEMBER 28th IS ALREADY A VERY CROWDED AGENDA.
16:24:55 WE WILL LIKELY REQUEST CONTINUANCE OF A NUMBER OF ITEMS ON
16:24:59 THAT DAY THAT ARE NOT TIME SENSITIVE, SO WE WILL HAVE A
16:25:03 LITTLE BIT MORE SHIFTING FOR THAT DAY AND TRY TO BOND THE
16:25:13 TIME FRAMES OUT.
16:25:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE ITEM 9 TO THE 21st OF OCTOBER AND
16:25:17 ITEM 10 TO THE 28th OF OCTOBER.
16:25:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL TO APPROVE
16:25:23 THE CHANGING FROM NUMBER 9 ON THE 10-28 TO 10-21.
16:25:31 >> SECOND.
16:25:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEN I WILL MAKE THE NEXT ONE.
16:25:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WILL BE UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
16:25:37 THANK YOU, SIR.
16:25:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED IT.
16:25:40 MR. CITRO SECONDED.
16:25:42 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:25:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 10, PRESENTED ON OCTOBER
16:25:45 28th.
16:25:47 2021.
16:25:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
16:25:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE SAME ITEM.
16:25:51 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CITRO SECONDED IT.
16:25:53 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:25:54 ANY OPPOSED?
16:25:55 MOTION CARRIED.
16:25:55 >>CAROLE POST: THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
16:25:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN.
16:26:02 WE HAVE A SHORT TIME FRAME.
16:26:03 I AM GOING TO ASK IF WE CAN RECEIVE AND FILE.
16:26:08 MR. CITRO MOVED.
16:26:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE BEEN ASKED, THE ITEMS THAT WE
16:26:14 HAVE REGARDING CHIEF TRIPP, IF WE CAN PLACE THAT ON THE
16:26:18 FIRST PART OF THE WORKSHOP SO SHE CAN DO WHAT SHE HAS TO DO
16:26:21 WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE.
16:26:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO NOTED.
16:26:27 MR. DINGFELDER ASKED TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
16:26:30 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
16:26:31 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:26:32 ANY OPPOSED?
16:26:34 SEE YOU AT 5:01.
16:26:35 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
16:26:37
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