TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 30, 2021
9:00 A.M.
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09:02:03 [GAVEL SOUNDING]
09:02:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN, CITIZENS OF
09:02:09 TAMPA.
09:02:12 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMING TO ORDER FOR SEPTEMBER 30,
09:02:13 2021.
09:02:16 THE INVOCATION BY MR. DINGFELDER DOWNSTAIRS, AND MR.
09:02:19 CARLSON WILL DO THE INTRODUCTION THIS MORNING.
09:02:20 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, GOOD MORNING.
09:02:26 I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME RABBI STEVEN WEILER TO CITY
09:02:26 COUNCIL.
09:02:33 BORN IN MANHATTAN WHO ESCAPED THE HOLOCAUST.
09:02:36 RECEIVED A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN MUSIC AND MUSIC
09:02:41 EDUCATION FROM JOHN HOPKINS WHILE TEACHING AT AN INNER
09:02:43 CITY HIGH SCHOOL FOR FOUR YEARS.
09:02:47 IN 1999, HE MOVED HIS FAMILY TO COMPANY TO BECOME RABBI
09:02:52 AT SHORESH DAVID MESSIANIC SYNAGOGUE.
09:02:57 HE IS ON RADIO IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA AND RABBI STEVE IS
09:02:59 BLESSED WITH A WONDERFUL WIFE, PAT.
09:03:00 THEY HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS AND FOUR BEAUTIFUL
09:03:04 GRANDCHILDREN AND A MUCH LONGER BIO AND THE SHORTER
09:03:07 VERSION DOESN'T DO HIM JUSTICE.
09:03:08 AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND LEADERSHIP IN THE
09:03:09 COMMUNITY.
09:03:12 STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND THEN FOR PLEDGE.
09:03:14 >> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BRING TODAY'S
09:03:15 INVOCATION.
09:03:17 AN HONOR FOR ME TO BE HERE.
09:03:22 WILL YOU BOW YOUR HEADS AS I PRAY.
09:03:26 OUR FATHER AND YOUR KING, THANK YOU, LORD, FOR ALL WHO
09:03:27 ARE GATHERED HERE TODAY.
09:03:30 THANK YOU, LORD, FOR YOUR ABUNDANT BLESSINGS AS YOU
09:03:34 HAVE PLACED THIS IN A WONDERFUL CITY AND A WONDERFUL
09:03:35 COUNTRY.
09:03:39 THANK YOU, LORD, FOR EACH ONE OF THESE COUNCILMEMBERS
09:03:43 WHO GIVE THEIR ABILITIES TO THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY
09:03:50 OF TAMPA, THANK YOU, LORD FOR THEIR ABILITIES, CALLING
09:03:51 AND RESPONSE TO THAT CALLING.
09:03:55 LORD, DIRECT THESE COUNCILMEMBERS TO CARRY ON THEIR
09:03:58 RESPONSIBILITIES WITH INTEGRITY AS THEY ARE LEADERS IN
09:04:02 OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE RESPECT AND LOOK UP TO.
09:04:06 LORD, EVEN THOUGH THERE MIGHT BE DIVERSITY IN OPINIONS,
09:04:10 I PRAY THAT THERE WILL BE UNITY AND RESPECT BETWEEN THE
09:04:14 COUNCILMEMBERS AND, ALSO, GREAT RESPECT FOR ANYONE WHO
09:04:16 WILL ADDRESS THEM TODAY.
09:04:20 WE THANK YOU, LORD, FOR ALLOWING US TO LIVE IN A
09:04:24 COUNTRY THAT SPURS FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
09:04:29 MAY EACH ONE OF YOU SHOW YOU OUR APPRECIATION BY USING
09:04:32 OUR GIFTS OFF THIS GIVEN WITH US GRACE, MERCY AND LOVE.
09:04:36 WE THANK YOU FOR, FIRST, DEMONSTRATING THOSE AT
09:04:40 TRIBUTES TO US.
09:04:43 IN THE SCRIPTURES, WE READ WE ARE ALL TO OBEY THE
09:04:46 GOVERNING AUTHORITIES OF WHICH YOU, LORD, HAVE
09:04:50 ESTABLISHED TO PROMOTE PEACE, ORDER AND JUSTICE.
09:04:53 THEREFORE, I PRAY FOR ALL OUR LOCAL LEADERS INCLUDING
09:04:58 MAYOR CASTOR, ALL OUR CITY OFFICIALS AND, IN
09:05:01 PARTICULAR, FOR THIS ASSEMBLED COUNCIL.
09:05:05 I ASK THAT YOU BLESS THEM WITH WISDOM, COMPASSION FOR
09:05:09 ALL PEOPLE, AND REAL JOY FOR DOING A JOB WELL-DONE.
09:05:14 I PRAY FOR TODAY'S AGENDA THAT EVERYTHING WILL GO WELL.
09:05:17 AND THAT THE DECISIONS MADE WILL BE FRUITFUL AND
09:05:21 BENEFIT ALL THOSE LIVING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:05:24 I PRAY THIS IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME, IN THE NAME OF
09:05:30 YESHUA, IN THE NAME OF JESUS, OUR MESSIAH, AMEN.
09:05:44 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:05:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
09:05:48 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:05:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:05:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:05:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:05:53 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:05:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:05:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:05:59 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:06:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA JUST WALKED IN THE DOOR.
09:06:03 OKAY.
09:06:05 MR. SHELBY, PLEASE.
09:06:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND
09:06:11 GOOD MORNING CITY COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
09:06:11 MARTIN SHELBY.
09:06:18 TODAY IS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 30, 2021.
09:06:20 WE ARE HERE IN CITY HALL.
09:06:23 LIVE IN-PERSON QUORUM OF THE CITY COUNCIL PRESENT IN
09:06:25 THE CITY COUNTY CHAMBERS.
09:06:28 HOWEVER, IN LIFE THE COVID-19 GOVERNMENT ISSUE HEALTH
09:06:31 STANDARDS AND GUIDANCE IN EFFECT, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
09:06:34 HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY THROUGH VIDEO
09:06:38 TELECONFERENCING REFERRED TO AS COMMUNITY MEDIA
09:06:39 TECHNOLOGY OR CMT.
09:06:42 THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO WATCH, LISTEN AND VIEW THIS
09:06:46 MEETING ON TABLE TV SPECTRUM 640, FRONTIER CHANNEL 15
09:06:52 AND ON THE INTERNET AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM, ONE WORD.
09:06:57 NOW THE CITY OF TAMPA AND ITS CITIZENS AND ANY
09:07:01 INTERESTED PERSONS HAVE ALTERNATE MEANS OF
09:07:03 PARTICIPATING AND COMMUNICATING WITH CITY COUNCIL OF
09:07:07 THE ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA BY SENDING WRITTEN COMMENTS
09:07:09 ON THE WEB AND THOSE INSTRUCTIONS ARE AT
09:07:12 TAMPA.GOV/PUBLICCOMMENT.
09:07:15 WRITTEN COMMENTS FROM E-MAIL, U.S. MAIL, AND TO
09:07:21 REGISTER -- PREREGISTER TO SPEAK REMOTELY USING
09:07:23 COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY AND THOSE INSTRUCTIONS
09:07:27 ARE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEB SITE,
09:07:34 WWW.TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL, ONE WORD.
09:07:36 THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO COMMUNICATION
09:07:40 TECHNOLOGY OR WISH TO COME TO CITY HALL, THEY HAVE THE
09:07:42 ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE WITH CMT WHICH IS BEING
09:07:46 AVAILABLE ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF OLD CITY HALL, 315 E.
09:07:50 KENNEDY BOULEVARD, AND NOTE THAT THE USE OF MASKS AND
09:07:53 SOCIAL DISTANCING INSIDE THE BUILDING ARE ENCOURAGED.
09:07:56 THESE -- DIRECTIONS ARE ALSO NOT ONLY WITHIN THE NOTICE
09:08:00 AVAILABLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEB SITE BUT IN THE
09:08:01 AGENDA.
09:08:03 AND COUNCIL, I WILL ASK TO YOU MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE
09:08:10 THE RULES TO ADOPT THE PARTICIPATION RULES SET FORTH.
09:08:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION.
09:08:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
09:08:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION CARRIES.
09:08:19 APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES -- I MEAN THE AGENDA --
09:08:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MO MOVED.
09:08:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LONG ITEMS TODAY, SIR, GENTLEMAN.
09:08:28 GET THROUGH AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
09:08:33 AND WE HAVE SOME ITEMS -- I THINK MR. DINGFELDER ASKED
09:08:36 FOR ITEM NUMBER 40.
09:08:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. DINGFELDER IS PRESENT AND
09:08:40 DOWNSTAIRS.
09:08:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. GRANDOFF ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE
09:08:44 ON ITEM NUMBER 40.
09:08:47 MR. SHELBY, DO WE TAKE THAT UP AT THE TIME --
09:08:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE CONSENT DOCKET.
09:08:55 IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT UP NOW -- IT IS ON THE CONSENT
09:08:55 DOCKET.
09:08:58 IF COUNCIL WISHES TO CLEAN IT UP RIGHT NOW AND MOVE IT
09:09:02 AND GET TO IT, MAKE SURE THAT ITEM HAS BEEN HANDLED.
09:09:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT NOW.
09:09:09 HE IS ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE TO NOVEMBER 4.
09:09:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
09:09:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED IT.
09:09:16 MR. CARLSON SECONDED IT.
09:09:17 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:09:18 OPPOSED.
09:09:19 MOTION GRANTED.
09:09:21 WE CAN GO TO THE STAFF REPORT.
09:09:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE
09:09:29 COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER HAVE ALSO REQUESTED -- HAS HE
09:09:32 DONE ANY REQUESTS OR THEY APPEAR ON THE AGENDA.
09:09:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 30 AND 53, BUT THEY ARE NOT ON THE --
09:09:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 30 AND 53.
09:09:41 IF WE CAN MAKE A NOTE THAT 30 AND 53.
09:09:48 AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WITH RESULT TO 30, DO
09:09:51 YOU WISH STAFF TO APPEAR ON THAT WITH ITEMS PULLED.
09:09:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY.
09:09:56 THOSE ARE VERY POSITIVE ITEMS THINK THAT THOUGHT THE
09:09:58 COMMUNITY SHOULD HEAR ABOUT.
09:10:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 30 AND 53 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:10:03 ALL RIGHT.
09:10:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE WE DO -- BEFORE WE REVIEW THE
09:10:11 STAFF REPORTS, MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THIS POINT IN TIME IF
09:10:14 THERE ARE ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR DELETION THAT HAVE NOT
09:10:16 BEEN PLACED ON THE AGENDA THAT COUNCIL WISHES?
09:10:20 I SEE NONE, THANK YOU.
09:10:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF OF STAFF IS HAVING AN COVID
09:10:25 UPDATE FOR ITEM NUMBER 97.
09:10:30 ANYBODY FOR ITEM NUMBER 98 AND 99 NEED TO BE HERE?
09:10:37 OR DOES THE MEMO SUFFICE?
09:10:39 98 AND 99.
09:10:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HEARING NONE, THEN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:10:48 IS MR. RODGER RELIEVED -- MR. ROGERO RELIEVED FROM
09:10:50 APPEARING ON 98 AND 99.
09:10:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN.
09:10:54 ITEM 100.
09:10:58 THEY WILL BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
09:11:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM 100.
09:11:01 ATTORNEY MORRISON.
09:11:04 ANYBODY ELSE YOU WISH TO HAVE PRESENT FROM STAFF?
09:11:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ATTORNEY MORRISON WILL BE SUFFICIENT.
09:11:11 I HAVE A MOTION TO MAKE IN REFERENCE TO THAT.
09:11:14 ITEM 101.
09:11:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:11:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, TEXT PROPOSAL AND REQUEST FROM
09:11:25 RANDY GOENS FOR ITEM 101.
09:11:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO OBJECTION.
09:11:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT CAN BE TAKEN UP NOW.
09:11:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE OCTOBER 21, 2021.
09:11:35 MR. CITRO MOVED IT.
09:11:36 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
09:11:37 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:11:38 OPPOSED?
09:11:39 MOTION GRANTED.
09:11:42 ITEM 102.
09:11:43 SCHOOL BOARD.
09:11:46 I THINK THAT IS MR. CARLSON AND CITRO.
09:11:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. BRODY HAS FILED A WRITTEN REPORT.
09:11:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST THE WRITTEN REPORT WILL BE FINE
09:11:53 WITH ME.
09:11:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
09:11:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. BRODY WILL BE RELIEVED TO APPEAR
09:12:01 ON ITEM 102.
09:12:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 103.
09:12:06 I HAVE -- WE WILL GET A REPORT -- I DID SPEAK WITH THE
09:12:08 MAYOR ON THAT AND POLICE AUSTIN TO TALK IN GENERALITY
09:12:13 BUT TELL YOU WHAT THE MAYOR TOLD ME IN REFERENCE TO 103
09:12:14 AT THAT TIME.
09:12:15 ITEM 104.
09:12:18 I THINK SHE IS SUPPOSED TO BE PRESENT.
09:12:21 FOR MR. DINGFELDER.
09:12:24 YOU WANT MISS HOLMES HERE?
09:12:25 DOES THE MEMO SUFFICE.
09:12:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: REGARDING MARGARET VIZZI.
09:12:33 NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER AWARD FOR MARGARET VIZZI.
09:12:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT.
09:12:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 104 STAYS AND 105, MR. MANISCALCO?
09:12:41 OKAY.
09:12:41 ALL RIGHT.
09:12:43 THEY DON'T NEED TO BE THERE.
09:12:47 MISS WYNN DOES NOT NEED TO BE THERE FOR THAT.
09:12:49 GO FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
09:12:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
09:12:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
09:12:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR?
09:12:54 ANY OPPOSED?
09:12:55 MOTION GRANTED.
09:12:59 ITEM NUMBER 1, MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:13:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:13:05 AND WHAT A PLEASURE AND HONOR IT IS TO BE PRESENTING A
09:13:15 COMMENDATION TO SAL NUNEZ -- NO, I MEAN MARIO NUNEZ.
09:13:16 MARIO COME UP.
09:13:19 SALLY WILL STAND THERE AND BE WONDERFUL, AS ALWAYS.
09:13:23 WE ARE PRESENTING THIS COMMENDATION TO MARIO AND REALLY
09:13:29 TO SALLY AND THEIR WHOLE TEAM FOR THEIR NOW 11 YEARS --
09:13:33 WE WERE GOING TO DO IT LAST YEAR -- TEN YEARS, BUT 11
09:13:37 YEARS OF PRODUCING, CREATING AND HOSTING THE TAMPA
09:13:38 NATIVES SHOW.
09:13:41 BEFORE I GET INTO THE COMMENDATION, I JUST WANT TO MAKE
09:13:44 A COUPLE OF THINGS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.
09:13:49 WE ARE ALL TAMPENOS AS MARIO WILL TELL US.
09:13:55 NOT TAMPAIANS OR ANYTHING SILLY AS THAT.
09:13:59 TAMPAIAN.
09:14:04 I CAN'T SAY IT LIKE MARIO, BUT NO PLACE OTHER THAN
09:14:05 TAMPA BAY.
09:14:07 WE ARE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND PROUD OF IT.
09:14:12 MARIO AND HIS LOVELY, BRILLIANT, FANTASTIC WIFE, SALLY
09:14:15 BEHIND US SHOOTING PICTURES AND BEING WONDERFULLY
09:14:19 SUPPORTIVE HAVE PRODUCED AND CREATED THE TAMPA NATIVES
09:14:20 SHOW FOR 11 YEARS.
09:14:24 GREAT PLEASURE THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZES MARIO
09:14:31 NUNEZ FOR CREATING AND ON-AIR THE TAMPA NATIVES FOR
09:14:33 STALL WALT PRESERVATION OF TAMPA'S RICH HISTORY FROM
09:14:38 THE SHOW ON EARLY DAYS ON PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE TELLY
09:14:45 AWARD EMANATING FROM THE STUDIO OF TBAE.
09:14:50 AND VIEWERSHIP OF TAMPENOS ACROSS THE TIME ZONE.
09:14:54 SEPTEMBER 1, 2010.
09:14:57 THE ONLY SHOW OF ITS KIND AND INTERNATIONAL SUCCESS
09:15:01 VIEWED IN 42 STATES.
09:15:05 AND THOSE WITH ROOTS IN TAMPA HAVE BEEN ENTERTAINED AND
09:15:07 EDUCATED BY HIS GUESTS EVERY WEEK.
09:15:12 DEFINING COMMUNITY -- BY COMBINING COMMUNITY ROOTS AND
09:15:15 THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OF TAMPA'S UNIQUE CULTURE,
09:15:19 MARIO'S PROGRAMS CONTINUE TO LEAD THE WAY THROUGH THE
09:15:24 ARCHIVING PROCESS WITH THE BURGER BROTHERS, TONY PIZZO,
09:15:30 GONZMART FAMILY AND SPECIAL COLLECTIONS HAVE PRESERVED
09:15:33 THE TAMPA NATIVES SHOW.
09:15:40 AND PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION TO MARIO NUNEZ OF HIS
09:15:43 CONTRIBUTION TO HIS HOMETOWN TO CAPTURE TAMPA'S UNIQUE
09:15:47 STORY PRESENTED IN DAY SEPTEMBER 2021.
09:15:48 THANK YOU.
09:15:49 >> THANK YOU, JOHN.
09:15:52 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:15:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, YOU GOT THAT.
09:15:54 FIRE AWAY.
09:15:57 I KNOW MARIO IS ALWAYS SHORT FOR WORDS.
09:16:00 >> I WILL BE BRIEF.
09:16:03 I WILL BE BRIEF, I PROMISE.
09:16:08 FIRST OFF, LET ME SAY WHAT AN HONOR IT IS, COUNCIL
09:16:12 CHAIR GUDES AND DISTINGUISHED COUNCILMEMBERS TO BE
09:16:14 GIVEN THIS LETTER OF COMMENDATION.
09:16:18 WHAT STARTED AS A FUN LOOK BACK AT A TAMPA THAT -- OF
09:16:22 YESTERYEAR HAS RAPIDLY BECOME A HISTORY PRESERVATION
09:16:23 PROJECT.
09:16:26 ONE THING WE ARE CERTAIN IS AS OUR ELDERS ARE LEAVING
09:16:30 US, THEY ARE TAKING THESE WONDERFUL STORIES WITH THEM.
09:16:36 IT HAS BECOME INCUMBENT UPON ALL OF US, BUT I
09:16:40 ESPECIALLY TAKE IT PERSONALLY TO PRESERVE THESE STORIES
09:16:43 FOR PROSPERITY THAT CHILDREN BORN NOW HERE IN OUR NEW
09:16:47 TIME AND THOSE FINDING US AND COMING HERE REMEMBER OUR
09:16:48 ANCESTORS.
09:16:51 I HAVE TO GIVE A TIP OF THE CAP FOR EVERYBODY PART OF
09:16:54 THE PRODUCTION FROM ITS EARLIEST DAYS.
09:16:59 STEVE CANELLO, AGAIN MY WIFE, SALLY, THERE FROM THE
09:17:01 VERY BEGINNING AND COUNTLESS NUMBERS OF PRODUCTION
09:17:05 STAFF THAT HAVE CONTINUED TO HELP ME WITH THE
09:17:06 PROGRAMMING.
09:17:09 MY CURRENT PRODUCTION TEAM AT TAMPA BAY ARTS AND
09:17:11 EDUCATION NETWORK.
09:17:16 SCOTT AND JESSICA STURGES AND THE INTERNS THERE
09:17:19 CONTINUE TO PROVE WEEK AFTER WEEK THAT THERE IS NO
09:17:22 STORY THAT IS NOT WORTH TELLING.
09:17:26 YOU KNOW, AS TAMPA CONTINUES TO KIND OF FIND ITS WAY
09:17:31 THIS NEW TIME IDENTITY WISE, WE WERE CIGAR CITY FOR SO
09:17:32 MANY YEARS.
09:17:36 WE WONDER WHAT WE WILL BE IN THE NEXT 20, 25 YEARS.
09:17:40 ARE WE GOING TO BE SIMI VALLEY EAST OR A CENTER FOR
09:17:44 TELEVISION AND ARTS AND PRODUCTION.
09:17:47 THAT IS EVOLVING NOW, THAT STORY.
09:17:50 AND I AM GRATEFUL TO BE PLAYING A SMALL PART OF THAT.
09:17:54 ETERNALLY GRATEFUL FOR MY PARENTS, MY FATHER FELIPE
09:17:57 BORN IN 1928 IN YBOR CITY.
09:17:57 CITY WITH US.
09:18:00 HE IS MY BIGGEST FAN AND SUPPORTER.
09:18:04 MY MOM, CARMEN, WHO REMAINS MY BIGGEST CRITIC HELPING
09:18:06 ME TO KEEP IMPROVING AND GETTING BETTER.
09:18:09 I LOVE YOU GUYS SO MUCH.
09:18:13 HERE IS THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY, OF TELLING GREAT
09:18:17 STORIES AND PRESERVING THE WONDERFUL HISTORY OUR
09:18:20 FOREFATHERS WHO CAME HERE AND CARVED OUT A FUTURE THAT
09:18:23 WE COULD NOT HAVE SEEN IN THE 1880S.
09:18:26 I HOPE THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THOSE THAT ARE
09:18:29 INVOLVED CONTINUE TO FUND ENDEAVORS LIKE THE TAMPA
09:18:30 NATIVE SHOW.
09:18:32 I THINK IT IS A WORTHWHILE ENDEAVOR.
09:18:35 THANK YOU TO MY DEAR FRIEND, JOHN DINGFELDER.
09:18:37 I AM VERY TOUCHED.
09:18:37 THANK YOU.
09:18:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MARIO, AND I THINK SOME
09:18:43 OF OUR COUNCILMEMBERS PROBABLY HAVE SOME COMMENTS.
09:18:48 I WOULD LIKE TO CHIME IN AND GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MY
09:18:50 MOTHER WHO IS MY BIGGEST FAN AND CRITIC.
09:18:54 BY HOME ON THURSDAY AND I GO HOW WAS I, WASN'T I
09:18:55 BRILLIANT?
09:18:58 SHE SAID YOUR HEAD IS A LITTLE SHINY AND YOU NEED A
09:18:59 HAIRCUT.
09:19:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SHE IS RIGHT.
09:19:01 A LITTLE SHINY.
09:19:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL THROW
09:19:06 IT BACK TO YOU.
09:19:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:19:13 >>LUIS VIERA: ARE BOTH YOUR PARENTS STILL ALIVE?
09:19:16 >> THEY ARE, LUIS, YES, INDEED.
09:19:18 >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT A BLESSING TO HAVE THAT.
09:19:21 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER MENTIONED HIS MOTHER AND I TALK
09:19:22 TO MY MOM EVERY DAY.
09:19:25 ON MY WAY HERE I WAS TALKING TO MY MAMA.
09:19:29 JUST GOD BLESS PARENTS AND MAY WE BE GOOD PARENTS IF WE
09:19:30 ARE PARENTS.
09:19:33 BUT THANK YOU, SIR, FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
09:19:36 TALKING ABOUT TESTIMONY'S HISTORY IS SO VERY IMPORTANT,
09:19:40 NOT JUST THE STELLAR POSITIVE PARTS OF HISTORY BUT THE
09:19:43 ACUTE PARTS OF HISTORY AND HOW TO AFFECTS US TODAY.
09:19:46 I APPLAUD EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR YOUR SHOW.
09:19:49 IT'S FUNNY, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS WHEN
09:19:52 THIS COUNCIL CAME IN, WE DID A MOTION TO -- I BELIEVE
09:19:55 IT WAS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND CITRO DID A MOTION TO
09:19:59 INCREASE -- OR GET BACK YOUR FUNDING SO TO SPEAK.
09:20:01 AND EXCUSE ME.
09:20:02 AND I VOTED NO.
09:20:04 AND I TOLD YOU I VOTED NO.
09:20:06 AND I TOLD YOU I WAS WRONG ON THAT.
09:20:09 I AM NOT JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE HERE.
09:20:12 I AM SAYING THAT BECAUSE I THINK I WAS WRONG.
09:20:14 I WAS VERY WRONG.
09:20:16 THERE ARE CERTAIN -- LET'S JUST SAY -- IT IS FOR
09:20:17 PRIVATE CONVERSATION.
09:20:21 BUT, AGAIN, I AM GLAD THAT THE CITY IS FUNDING
09:20:24 ENDEAVORS LIKE THIS AT THE LEVEL THAT WE ARE.
09:20:28 AND I THINK YOU DO A GREAT JOB AND WHATNOT.
09:20:30 FUNNY IMMEDIATELY AFTER MY VOTE.
09:20:32 I GET CALLS.
09:20:36 I GOT CALLS SO TO SPEAK AND I SAID YOU KNOW WHAT, DAMN
09:20:37 IT, YOU ARE RIGHT.
09:20:41 THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR
09:20:42 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:20:44 COUNCILMAN CITRO PUSHED THAT A LOT AND THANK YOU FOR
09:20:47 ALL THAT YOU DO AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF FANS, COUNCILMAN
09:20:50 MANISCALCO IS A BIG FAN OF YOU AND ETC.
09:20:53 GOD BLESS YOU AND THANK YOU.
09:20:54 >> I APPRECIATE THAT.
09:20:57 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, COUNCILMAN VIERA, APOLOGY
09:20:57 ACCEPTED.
09:20:59 AND AT THE SAME TIME, THERE IS AN OPEN AND STANDING
09:21:04 INVITATION FOR YOURSELF, COUNCILMAN GUDES WHO YET TO
09:21:07 APPEAR ON MY SHOW AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS.
09:21:13 WE NEED TO RECORD STORY FOR PROSPERITY AND ALL THE
09:21:17 GREAT THINGS YOU ARE DOING ON COUNCIL IT RELATES TO OUR
09:21:19 MILITARY COMMUNITY.
09:21:21 AND COUNCILMAN GUDES AS WELL.
09:21:24 A SPECIAL PLACE TO TALK TO YOU AS WELL.
09:21:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:21:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARIO, I AM A BIG FAN OF YOUR WORK
09:21:32 AND I APPRECIATE YOUR FRIENDSHIP FOR MANY YEARS AND I
09:21:35 APPRECIATE THE TAMPA NATIVES SHOW.
09:21:38 YOU TOUCH ON SO MANY TOPICS.
09:21:42 NOT JUST ONE THING OR THE OTHER, HIGH LIE OR THE SIGNS.
09:21:44 AND WHATEVER IT IS, I THINK YOU EVEN -- SOMEBODY
09:21:47 DRESSED UP AS DR. PAUL BEARER.
09:21:49 YOU DID SOMETHING.
09:21:53 THANKS FROM MY CHILDHOOD.
09:21:55 THINGS FROM MY MOTHER'S CHILDHOOD.
09:21:58 WHATEVER IT IS, KEEP THOSE STORIES FRESH IN PEOPLE'S
09:21:59 MEMORIES.
09:22:01 YOU SHARE THEM WITH THE NEW GENERATIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE
09:22:04 SO MANY NEW PEOPLE MOVING TO TAMPA AND THEY WATCH THE
09:22:07 SHOW AND THEY LEARN ABOUT OUR HISTORY, NOT JUST WHAT IS
09:22:09 GOING ON TODAY BUT WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY.
09:22:11 AND THE IMPORTANCE OF IT.
09:22:13 WE CAN'T FORGET THAT.
09:22:14 AND YOU KEEP THAT ALIVE.
09:22:19 I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR WIFE AND MR. CANELA AND
09:22:22 EVERYBODY ELSE WHO MAKES AND HAVE MADE THE TAMPA
09:22:24 NATIVES SHOW SO SPECIAL.
09:22:27 CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.
09:22:29 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:22:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:22:33 >>BILL CARLSON: CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR ALL
09:22:35 YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.
09:22:39 I LOVE TO WATCH THE SHOW AND REMEMBER THINGS THAT I
09:22:40 FORGOT.
09:22:45 AND YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES KNOW OF THE IMPORTANCE OF
09:22:47 THE HISTORY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND SOMETIMES IT IS A
09:22:51 LITTLE THING THAT HAVE A DEEP AND EMOTIONAL IMPACTED TO
09:22:51 PEOPLE.
09:22:53 THANKS FOR ALL THAT.
09:22:56 HOPEFULLY YOUR PARENTS ARE WATCHING.
09:22:57 I WANT TO SAY HELLO.
09:22:59 I MET WITH THEM SEVERAL TIMES.
09:23:02 AND THEIR GREAT INSPIRATION FOR ALL OF US AND YOU ARE
09:23:05 KEEPING THE LINEAGE GOING BY PROMOTING ALL THE GREAT
09:23:05 THINGS ABOUT IT.
09:23:08 YOU HAD THE HAT ON A MINUTE AGO.
09:23:10 TAMPENO.
09:23:13 AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL DISCUSS THAT ANOTHER DAY.
09:23:16 BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE -- AS WE ARE DEVELOPING TAMPA AND
09:23:20 DEVELOPING OUR BRAND, ONE THING IS IMPORTANT WHAT WE
09:23:21 CALL OURSELVES.
09:23:26 AND THE VERSION THAT MOST OFTEN USED IS TAMPANIAN AND
09:23:29 ANOTHER ONE THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BAD WORD OR A WORD THAT
09:23:30 ISN'T NICE.
09:23:31 I WOULDN'T USE THAT ONE.
09:23:34 AND TAMPENO IS DIFFERENT.
09:23:36 IT DIFFERENTIATES US.
09:23:38 OUR ROOTS ARE LATIN.
09:23:43 WE HAD A CHANCE TO BE THE HUB OF LATIN AMERICA AND IT
09:23:45 WENT TO MIAMI.
09:23:48 AND LATIN AMERICA WANTS AN ALTERNATIVE TO MIAMI AND WE
09:23:49 SHOULD BE IT.
09:23:54 THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH TAMPA, TAMPAN O DOESN'T JUST MEAN
09:23:58 LATINOS OR LATIN, IT COULD MEAN EVERYBODY.
09:23:59 A DISCUSSION OF ANOTHER DAY.
09:24:01 ALSO YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE FLAG.
09:24:03 THAT IS DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY ALSO.
09:24:06 BUT I WANT TO, IN PARTICULAR, SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR
09:24:10 REALLY HARD EFFORTS TO SAVE FAIRY LAND.
09:24:14 SO MANY PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY BABY BOOM GENERATION, YOU
09:24:22 KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE YOLY CAPIN AND RICHARD GONZMART, TALK
09:24:25 OF FAIRY LAND THEY TEAR UP.
09:24:27 ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T KNOW BEFORE LOWRY PARK ZOO AND
09:24:31 BUSCH GARDENS THERE WAS FAIRY LAND AND YOU CAN GOOGLE
09:24:31 IT.
09:24:33 THERE IS A WEB SITE FOR IT.
09:24:38 MARIO FOUND THESE STATUES ON A JUNK FIRE AND WORKED
09:24:40 WITH RICHARD GONZMART.
09:24:45 AND YOU GO TO -- YOU SEE HUMPTY DUMPTY ON THE ROOF IN
09:24:45 THE BACK.
09:24:49 BUT A GREAT PART OF OUR HISTORY AND ANY SMALL THING --
09:24:52 WHEN YOU CAN PULL SOMETHING OFF A TRASH PILE AND MAKE
09:24:56 GROWN PEOPLE CRY, YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING IMPORTANT.
09:24:59 THE LAST THING THAT MAKES MAY TEARFUL IS THE SONG.
09:24:59 THE SONG ON YOUR SHOW.
09:25:01 WHO IS THE AUTHOR OF THAT.
09:25:05 >> THE GREAT MIKE BALUA WHO CREATED THE SONG, "I LIKE"
09:25:09 AND THE SONG "I REMEMBER TAMPA."
09:25:10 >>BILL CARLSON: AN AWESOME SONG.
09:25:11 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:25:14 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:25:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
09:25:20 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR WIFE, MR. NUNEZ.
09:25:24 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:25:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [SPEAKING SPANISH]
09:26:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW THAT WAS A LITTLE TONGUE
09:26:32 LASHING.
09:26:32 [LAUGHTER]
09:26:37 I COULD TELL ALREADY.
09:26:40 MARIO, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE WITH THE
09:26:41 SHOW.
09:26:43 AND UNFORTUNATELY I HAD NOT HAD A CHANCE, BUT I WILL
09:26:48 MAKE SURE MY INTERN AIDE, DEBBY, GET THAT SCHEDULED IT
09:26:49 DO THAT.
09:26:51 WE APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU ARE DOING.
09:26:54 I AM FAMILIAR WITH BEING A TAMPAIAN.
09:26:58 NOT FAMILIAR WITH TAMPENO.
09:27:02 BUT I AM WITH THE OLD SCHOOL OF TAMPANIAN.
09:27:04 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND THANK YOU MR. DINGFELDER
09:27:06 FOR HIS COMMENDATION.
09:27:07 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL CHAIR.
09:27:09 MAY I SAY ONE MORE THING?
09:27:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONE MORE THING.
09:27:11 WE GOT TO GET MOVING.
09:27:16 >> I BROUGHT THESE -- I BROUGHT THESE WINDOW DECALS I
09:27:19 WILL SEND UP TO YOU GUYS AND WANT TO YOU HAVE ONE
09:27:23 BECAUSE YOU BESTOWED ME WITH A GIFT I WILL GIVE YOU ONE
09:27:23 AS WELL.
09:27:25 AN EXTRA ONE FOR OUR MAYOR AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE
09:27:31 WORD TAMPANIAN -- FULL SLOW IT DOWN JUST A BIT AND END
09:27:37 IT WITH AO, TAMPENO.
09:27:41 IT IS EASY AND A SLIGHT MOVE TO THE LEFT.
09:27:46 I PROMISE TO CONTINUE THIS GOOD WORK.
09:27:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, I KNOW WE HAVE A TIGHT
09:27:53 SCHEDULE AND GIVE OUR BLESSINGS TO FOLKS WHO ARE HAVING
09:27:56 COMMENDATIONS BUT LIMIT TO A FEW MINUTES TO MOVE ON.
09:27:57 AGAIN, THAT IS FOR THE FUTURE AS WELL.
09:28:02 GOING A LITTLE LONG WIND AND TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE
09:28:04 WITH THESE LONG AGENDA ITEMS.
09:28:07 INDULGE ME A LITTLE BIT.
09:28:08 ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:28:15 SONYA IS DOWNSTAIRS -- NOT SONYA, BUT MISS DEBBY.
09:28:18 MISS DEBBY WILL DO THE HONOR FOR ME THIS MORNING.
09:28:20 MR. DINGFELDER, HE CAN HELP YOU OUT.
09:28:24 MY COHORT CAN HELP ME OUT WITH THAT AS WELL.
09:28:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ACTUALLY I THOUGHT AS LONG AS I WAS
09:28:29 HERE AND I LOVE THESE GUYS, I WOULD HELP YOU OUT, MR.
09:28:30 CHAIRMAN.
09:28:32 DEBBY, YOU DON'T MIND.
09:28:33 >> NO, I DO NOT.
09:28:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH OUT FURTHER ADO,
09:28:43 WE ARE PRESENTING A COMMENDATION TO OUR PURCHASING
09:28:46 DIRECTOR GREG SPEARMAN AND CITY OF TAMPA PURCHASING
09:28:47 DEPARTMENT.
09:28:51 AS I TELL YOU GUYS PERIODICALLY AND I TOLD THESE GUYS
09:28:54 OFTEN, MY VERY FIRST JOB OUT OF COLLEGE WAS A
09:28:57 PURCHASING OFFICER UP IN TALLAHASSEE.
09:29:00 I ONLY DID IT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE LAW SCHOOL,
09:29:06 BUT MADE A SIGNIFICANT MARK ON ME THAT PURCHASING IS
09:29:10 THE CORE IN TERMS OF THE INTEGRITY OF PUBLIC PURCHASING
09:29:12 IS THE CORE OF GOVERNMENT.
09:29:15 IF YOU DON'T HAVE INTEGRITY IN PUBLIC PURCHASING, THEN
09:29:18 THE ENTIRE PROCESS FALLS APART AND THE PUBLIC DOESN'T
09:29:21 HAVE ANY BELIEF IN THE SYSTEM.
09:29:24 SO THESE GUYS ARE FANTASTIC.
09:29:27 I KNOW I GIVE THEM A HARD TIME EVERY NOW AND AGAIN AND
09:29:30 I ASK THEM A LOT OF QUESTION AND I HOPE THEY DON'T MIND
09:29:30 IT.
09:29:33 WE ARE GIVING THEM A COMMENDATION AND WE WILL READ IT
09:29:35 AS FOLLOWS AND MR. SPEARMAN WILL SPEAK TO US. IN
09:29:38 RECOGNITION OF RECEIVING THE NATIONAL PROCUREMENT
09:29:43 INSTITUTE EXCELLENCE IN PROCUREMENT AWARD FOR 2021,
09:29:48 THIS AWARD SYMBOLIZES ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE IN
09:29:52 INNOVATION, PROFESSIONALISM, PRODUCTIVITY, E
09:29:54 PROCUREMENT AND LEADERSHIP.
09:29:56 EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE, GREG, THAT YOU AND YOUR
09:29:59 PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TEAM HAVE RECEIVED THIS AWARD FOR
09:30:00 15 CONSECUTIVE YEARS.
09:30:00 [APPLAUSE]
09:30:02 THERE YOU GO.
09:30:04 GIVE YOURSELF A ROUND OF I PLACE.
09:30:08 IT IS INDICATIVE OF THE COMMITMENT AND LEVEL OF
09:30:10 PROFESSIONALISM DEMONSTRATED BY YOU AND YOUR
09:30:11 DEPARTMENT.
09:30:13 OUR CITY COUNCIL IS PROUD TO PRESENT WITH YOU THIS
09:30:14 COMMENDATION.
09:30:17 THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO ON BEHALF OF THIS CITY
09:30:20 AND RESIDENTS ON THIS THE 30TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2021.
09:30:21 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:30:25 [APPLAUSE]
09:30:29 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND COUNCIL CHAIR
09:30:30 GUDES AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
09:30:33 AN HONOR AND PLEASURE FOR THIS DEPARTMENT TO SERVE THE
09:30:35 CITY OF TAMPA THE WAY WE DO.
09:30:39 AS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID WE DO IT BY INTEGRITY.
09:30:42 WE ABIDE BY ALL OF THE BEST PRACTICES.
09:30:44 AND BY THE CODE OF ETHICS.
09:30:47 WE BELIEVE IN EXCELLENCE, YOU KNOW.
09:30:48 WE LOOK AT CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.
09:30:51 BEHIND ME ARE THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT REALLY MAKE THIS
09:30:52 HAPPEN EVERY DAY.
09:30:55 SO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO ARE BEHIND THE
09:30:56 SCENES.
09:31:00 YOU DON'T REALLY SEE IT, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, MAKING SURE
09:31:03 THE RESCUE CARS ARE EQUIPPED WITH THE DRUGS THEY NEED
09:31:08 TO TREAT PATIENTS IN THEIR CRITICAL TIME OF NEED.
09:31:12 OUTFITTING THE FIRE TRUCKS FOR THE CRITICAL SCUBA GEAR.
09:31:13 EVERYTHING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS IN TERMS OF
09:31:16 THE VEHICLES, THE CAGES, EVERYTHING THAT IS NEEDED BY
09:31:19 THE WARE AND WASTE YOUR DEPARTMENT AND THE WASTE ENERGY
09:31:20 PLANT.
09:31:23 ALL THOSE THINGS THAT REALLY KEEP THE CITY RUNNING AND
09:31:23 HUMMING.
09:31:26 YOU KNOW THE UNIFORM PROVIDED.
09:31:28 YOU SEE THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS WEAR AND THE FIRE
09:31:30 FIGHTERS WEAR AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
09:31:33 THIS TEAM BEHIND ME REALLY MAKES THAT HAPPEN EVERY
09:31:34 SINGLE DAY.
09:31:36 SO I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOMEONE WHO IS VERY
09:31:39 IMPORTANT TO OUR TEAM WHO IS NOT HERE TODAY MICHELLE
09:31:40 BLIZZARD.
09:31:43 SHE IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE EXECUTIVE AIDE FOR
09:31:47 PURCHASING, AND SHE BASICALLY PUTS TOGETHER THE
09:31:48 APPLICATION FOR US.
09:31:49 IT IS A DAUNTING TASK.
09:31:53 I GOT TO TELL YOU THE CRITERIA KEEPS ELEVATING YEAR
09:31:54 AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
09:31:57 IT BECOMES MORE INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO WIN THIS
09:31:58 AWARD.
09:32:00 BUT WE ARE UP TO THE CHALLENGE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
09:32:05 MAINTAIN THE STANDARDS, THE PROFESSIONALISM, THE
09:32:06 EDUCATION THAT IS NECESSARY TO DO THAT.
09:32:10 AND I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE MY TWO MANAGERS.
09:32:12 KEVIN FREY AND DEANNA MARSHALL.
09:32:16 KEVIN MANAGES THE GOODS AND SERVICES TEAM.
09:32:20 AND DEANNA MANAGES OUR SYSTEMS TEAM AND ALL THE PEOPLE
09:32:21 THAT THEY SUPPORT.
09:32:26 AND WE HAVE MIKE ASHBY THAT MANAGES OUR INVENTORY THAT
09:32:28 KEEPS ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS IN TERMS OF THE POLICE
09:32:33 DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND ALSO WATER,
09:32:35 WASTEWATER AND TRANSPORTATION MOVING AND HUMMING ALL
09:32:36 THE TIME.
09:32:39 COUNCIL, WE KNOW YOU HAVE BUSY SCHEDULE.
09:32:41 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS RECOGNITION AND APPRECIATE
09:32:44 YOUR EFFORTS AND SUPPORT FOR THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.
09:32:46 THANK YOU.
09:32:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:32:50 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT
09:32:51 YOU DO.
09:32:53 IN THE CITY, WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE WONDERFUL
09:32:54 PROFESSIONAL STAFF.
09:32:57 LAST NIGHT I HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING AT CORY LAKE ISLES
09:32:59 OF SOME ISSUE WITH THE ROAD.
09:33:04 VERY, VERY BORING ISSUES BUT EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THE
09:33:04 RESIDENTS.
09:33:09 BRAD BAIRD AND ERIC WEISS CAME OUT AND SHOWED TO BE
09:33:13 PROFESSIONALS THAT THEY ARE AND OF YOU ALL ARE AS WELL.
09:33:18 IN PURCHASING YOU ALL DO A FINE JOB AND OFF GREAT TEAM
09:33:19 LEADER THERE.
09:33:20 AND YOU DO A GREAT JOB.
09:33:22 WE ARE ALWAYS VERY PROUD OF ALL OF OUR CITY OF TAMPA
09:33:25 EMPLOYEES AND ALL OF THE WORK THAT EVERYBODY DOES.
09:33:26 ALL OF OUR WORKERS.
09:33:29 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THANK YOU.
09:33:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.
09:33:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, SIR, AND
09:33:36 THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.
09:33:39 IT IS VERY, VERY, VERY WELL DESERVED.
09:33:40 EVERYONE WORKS SO HARD.
09:33:43 EVERYONE IS COMMITTED TO KEEPING THINGS RUNNING
09:33:46 SMOOTHLY AND DO YOU AND THAT IS WHY YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:33:47 THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME.
09:33:51 THIS IS ONE OF MANY TIMES AND FOR GOOD REASON.
09:33:55 YOU STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE AND DELIVER EXCELLENCE AND WE
09:33:59 APPRECIATE THAT AND WE ARE VERY, VERY PROUD OF YOU.
09:34:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:34:03 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS.
09:34:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.
09:34:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM GOING TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND
09:34:08 YOUR TEAM.
09:34:11 YOU HAVE A RECORD OF GETTING THE BEST PRODUCTS AT THE
09:34:15 FINEST QUALITIES FOR THE BEST PRICES.
09:34:20 PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH MONEY YOU AND YOUR
09:34:22 OFFICE SAVES THE TAXPAYERS.
09:34:25 THANK YOU, MR. SPEARMAN AND YOUR OFFICE.
09:34:27 CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS.
09:34:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:34:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY CALL YOU GREG, THE
09:34:35 NATIONAL PROCUREMENT OF EXCELLENCE AND PROCUREMENT
09:34:36 AWARD.
09:34:39 CAN YOU TELL THE PUBLIC EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS SO THEY
09:34:41 UNDERSTAND THE HARD WORK THAT ALL OF YOU DID, NOT BY
09:34:45 LEADERSHIP, BUT BY BEING IN ONE TEAM WORKING FOR ONE
09:34:48 GOAL, AND THAT IS TO MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA BETTER.
09:34:50 EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC.
09:34:54 I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
09:34:58 >> THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT PURCHASING.
09:35:02 NPI, THE NATIONAL PURCHASING INSTITUTE HAS AN AWARD
09:35:04 PROGRAM TO RECOGNIZE THOSE PERSONS IN DEPARTMENTS THAT
09:35:08 PERFORM ACCORDING TO THE HIGH STANDARDS, ETHICAL
09:35:11 AGREEMENT CHIEF.
09:35:14 BEST PRACTICES WITH AUTOMATION AND PROCUREMENT.
09:35:15 ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
09:35:18 WE SUBMIT AN APPLICATION AND WE HAVE TO DOCUMENT ALL OF
09:35:19 THOSE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING EVERY YEAR.
09:35:23 AND THAT APPLICATION GETS GRADED, REVIEWED BY A TEAM OF
09:35:27 EXPERTS, A PANEL OF EXPERTS OF OUR PEERS AND THEY MAKE
09:35:30 A DECISION WHETHER OR NOT YOU MEET THE CRITERIA AND THE
09:35:33 POINTS IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR THIS
09:35:35 AWARD.
09:35:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:35:40 HONOR TO SERVE YOU AND ALL YOUR STAFF.
09:35:43 A BUNCH OF GREAT MEN AND WOMEN.
09:35:44 BLESS YOU ALL.
09:35:45 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:35:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONCE I SAW THIS COME OUT OF THIS
09:35:51 AWARD, RIGHT AWAY I SAID WE GOT TO GIVE A COMMENDATION
09:35:55 BECAUSE I KNOW WITH THIS COUNCIL, MR. DINGFELDER SAID,
09:35:58 WE DIG REAL HARD, BUT WHEN THE ACHIEVEMENTS ARE MADE,
09:36:01 WE GOT TO BE ABLE TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHEN THEY ARE MADE.
09:36:04 AND I KNOW WITH THIS NEW ADMINISTRATION AND THIS
09:36:10 COUNCIL, WE HAVE A LOT AND YOU COME FORWARD AND DONE
09:36:13 WHAT WE ASKED TO YOU DO AND WE CAN SEE THE CHANGE AND
09:36:16 WE ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
09:36:18 WHEN WE FIRST MET WE GOT A ROCKY START.
09:36:23 WHEN WE HAD OUR CONVERSATION YOU UNDERSTOOD ME AND I
09:36:24 UNDERSTOOD YOU.
09:36:26 EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT IN COMMUNICATING SOMETIMES.
09:36:30 I WANT TO DO MY PART RECOGNIZING YOURSELF AND YOUR
09:36:31 STAFF FOR THE JOB YOU HAVE DONE.
09:36:34 CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
09:36:35 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:36:37 [APPLAUSE]
09:36:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALREADY, WE WILL GO INTO PUBLIC
09:37:26 COMMENT.
09:37:28 >> ALL RIGHT, BEGIN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE SECOND
09:37:41 FLOOR.
09:37:42 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:37:44 CAN YOU HEAR ME, SIR?
09:37:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME FOR US.
09:37:51 >> DARYL MCATEER.
09:37:53 MY WORK ADDRESS AND I'M A TAMPA RESIDENT.
09:37:55 I WANT TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY.
09:37:59 I CANNOT BE HERE TONIGHT ON THE MULTIFAMILY ISSUE.
09:38:02 AND I WANT TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY ON THAT.
09:38:06 LIKELY TO BE A DECISION TO BAN THE USE OF FLOOR AREA
09:38:10 RATIO IN MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS IN SOUTH TAMPA -- SOUTH
09:38:12 TAMPA AND THE NEW TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICTS.
09:38:15 I PERSONALLY FEEL THIS WILL RESULT IN MORE LIMITED
09:38:22 WORKFORCE AND HOUSING OPTIONS IN SOUTH TAMPA, I FEEL
09:38:25 DEVELOPER ALSO BE FORCED TO BUILD LARGER LUXURY UNITS
09:38:28 AND CHARGE ACCORDINGLY AND I THINK THIS ISSUE PROBABLY
09:38:33 HAS BEEN PUT TO BED -- I WONDER THAT F.A.R. WILL BE
09:38:36 AVAILABLE FOR DENSITY IF INCORPORATING MIXED USE.
09:38:39 MIXED USE IS NOT AN OPTION IN MANY AREAS OF SOUTH
09:38:40 TAMPA.
09:38:42 ALTHOUGH WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY, STILL NOT A
09:38:45 PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY CITY IN MOST AREAS.
09:38:48 WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, I HOPE THAT ADDITIONAL
09:38:53 INCENTIVE THAN ALLOWING THE USE OF F.A.R. IN AREAS OF
09:38:56 STATUS QUO OF THE CENTRAL DISTRICT ARE INCORPORATED.
09:39:00 THE CENTRAL PART OF THE CITY HAS A LOT OF PROMISE AND
09:39:04 REMAINS A MUCH HARDER SALE FOR DEVELOPERS LAND HAVE TO
09:39:07 DISCOUNT ACCORDINGLY AND INVESTMENT INCENTIVE IS
09:39:08 SOMEWHAT LOWER.
09:39:11 I HEARD RUMORS OF PLAN AND CONCEPTS FOR ADDITIONAL
09:39:15 INCENTIVES IN THE REMAINING PLANNING DISTRICT WHERE
09:39:20 F.A.R. FOR A MULTIFAMILY DENSITY FOR A SOLE USE AND
09:39:23 MULTIFAMILY USE, AND I HOPE THE PLAN ALSO COME TO
09:39:26 FRUITION AND HOPE THE COUNCIL TO INCORPORATE INCENTIVES
09:39:30 FOR THOSE DISTRICTS TO INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT AND
09:39:33 GIVE US A PLACE TO PUT STARTER AND WORKFORCE HOUSING IN
09:39:36 TAMPA IN A WAY THAT -- A PLACE THAT IS CONVENIENT
09:39:39 ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO WORK.
09:39:39 THANK YOU.
09:40:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:40:03 >> UHURA.
09:40:05 MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
09:40:10 WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD BE THINKING OF OUR FREEDOM.
09:40:14 MENTESNOT, CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:40:18 I WANT TO SAY TO THE PEOPLE AND OUR CITY COUNCIL
09:40:22 REPRESENTATIVES THAT SLAVERY IS WORSE TODAY 2021 THAN
09:40:25 IT HAS EVER BEEN IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.
09:40:26 PERIOD.
09:40:30 ESPECIALLY LIVING HERE IN THE TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED,
09:40:34 ECONOMICALLY ADVANCED, SUPPOSEDLY SOCIALLY ADVANCED
09:40:37 SOCIETY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
09:40:43 WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE HAVE IT REALLY, REALLY, REALLY
09:40:46 HARD THROUGH DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES THAT IMPLEMENTED
09:40:48 AGAINST US SPECIFICALLY.
09:40:51 I WANT TO SAY THAT RIGHT HERE IN THIS CITY OF TAMPA,
09:40:54 FLORIDA, WE ARE 26% OF THE POPULATION.
09:40:59 AND WE ARE DESERVING OF 26% OF THE CITY BUDGET.
09:41:03 WE ARE DESERVING OF 26% OF THE CITY EMPLOYMENT.
09:41:08 AND WE ARE DESERVING OF 26% OF THE CITY'S ECONOMY THAT
09:41:11 IS IN PRIVATE INDUSTRY AND IN GOVERNMENT.
09:41:15 IF IT IS COUNTY GOVERNMENT, CITY GOVERNMENT, WHEREVER
09:41:18 IT IS, WE ARE DESERVING OF THAT.
09:41:24 WE WOULD LIKE TO BE REPRESENTED PROPORTIONATELY INSTEAD
09:41:32 OF DISPROPORTIONATELY IN AREAS OF HEALTH CARE, CRIME,
09:41:38 UNEMPLOYMENT, EDUCATION, ACCESS TO HOUSING, AND ALL
09:41:39 THESE OTHER THINGS.
09:41:44 I THINK THAT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THAT THIS CITY
09:41:47 COUNCIL JUST AS PREVIOUS CITY COUNCILS, PREVIOUS
09:41:50 MAYORS, PREVIOUS ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND CURRENT ELECTED
09:41:54 OFFICIALS HAVE OFFERED LIP SERVICE TO AFRICAN PEOPLE
09:41:56 AND ONLY LIP SERVICE.
09:41:59 AND THEY GO ABOUT THEIR DUTIES, AWARDS, OTHER THINGS.
09:42:02 IT IS REALLY INSIGNIFICANT.
09:42:04 BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE A CONCRETE CHANGE OR PUT YOUR
09:42:07 HANDS ON IT AND PUT YOUR HANDS ON SCIENTIFIC AND
09:42:08 ANALYTICAL CHANGE.
09:42:12 YOU CAN'T SEE IT FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE IT IS GETTING WORSE
09:42:18 AND WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSER.
09:42:22 WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE WANT REPARATIONS FROM THIS CITY
09:42:26 AND THE BUSINESSES THAT PRACTICE OR DO CONDUCT BUSINESS
09:42:27 IN THIS COMMUNITY.
09:42:30 WE WOULD ALSO LIKE AN END TO ALL THE BICYCLE STOPS AND
09:42:33 LIKE THE OVERTURNING -- WE WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE
09:42:36 OVERTURNED FOR ANYBODY WHO HAS BEEN CITED FOR THAT --
09:42:38 FOR THAT TO BE OVERTURNED.
09:42:42 WE ARE ALSO LIKE TO SEE A RETURN OF -- WE WOULD LIKE
09:42:45 OUR CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES TO CALL OUR STATE
09:42:49 REPRESENTATIVES AND SAY RETURN THOSE STIMULUS CHECKS
09:42:52 THAT HAVE BEEN GARNISHED BY THEM FROM THE SOCIAL
09:42:53 SECURITY ADMINISTRATION.
09:42:56 AND ALSO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
09:42:58 WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT GET
09:43:01 OUT OF KICKING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES.
09:43:05 AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISN'T A HOME IN WILDING AND 30TH FOR
09:43:06 $449,000.
09:43:10 THAT IS CALLED GENTRIFICATION IN ITS WORST FORM, AND WE
09:43:12 HAVE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO MAKE A CHANGE ABOUT THOSE
09:43:13 THINGS.
09:43:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:43:36 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:43:38 MY NAME IS NATHAN HAGAN.
09:43:42 I KNOW HOUSING TOPICS COMING UP AND KEEP MY SPEECH IN
09:43:44 MIND FOR THOSE ITEMS.
09:43:46 PIECEMEAL PD DEVELOPMENT IS NOT ENOUGH.
09:43:50 I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE MY ONE TO THREE TRIPLEX HOUSING
09:43:50 PLAN.
09:43:53 WE NEED MORE HOUSING, NEIGHBORS AND DEVELOPERS AND NEED
09:43:56 TO ACT NOW TO HAVE MORE HOUSING FOR EVERYBODY IN OUR
09:43:57 COMMUNITY.
09:43:59 WE NEED TO MAKE IT LEGAL FOR STACKED TRIPLEXES IN THE
09:44:03 CITY OF TAMPA CURRENTLY ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY,
09:44:07 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, TAMPA HEIGHTS, YBOR, NORTH HYDE PARK,
09:44:11 HYDE PARK, PALMA CEIA AND SOUTH OF GANDY.
09:44:12 HERE IS MY STORY.
09:44:14 I AM WHITE AND SOLIDLY MIDDLE CLASS.
09:44:18 HISTORICALLY BLACK AND DISENFRANCHISED NEIGHBORHOOD IN
09:44:18 TAMPA.
09:44:19 I LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:44:25 I KNOW MY PRESENCE IS OF HIGHER HOUSING COST AND MOST
09:44:29 INFILL IS SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING AND ANY GROWTH IS
09:44:31 REPLACING SOMEONE ELSE WITH DEEPER CONNECTION TO THE
09:44:34 NEIGHBORHOOD THAN I DO OR NEWER RESIDENTS DO.
09:44:37 THE TRUTH IS DESPITE ALL MY PRIVILEGE, I CAN'T AFFORD
09:44:40 TO LIVE IN ANY COMMUNITIES WITH SIMILAR AMENITIES AND
09:44:41 ACCESS IN TAMPA.
09:44:42 I'M HERE.
09:44:44 WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?
09:44:48 WHAT IS WORSE TWO YEARS INTO LIVING HERE I WILL HAVE TO
09:44:49 LEAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THE COST OF HOUSING IS
09:44:51 RISING REAL QUICKLY.
09:44:54 BUYING THERE IS BEYOND MY MEANS.
09:44:59 ALL AROUND ME NEW LUXURY VILLAS SUBSIDIZED BY OUR LAND
09:45:01 USE CODE WHICH IS ILLEGAL TO BUILD ANYTHING THAT IS
09:45:03 MORE AFFORDABLE TO REGULAR PEOPLE.
09:45:06 I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, BUT THE CITY LAND USE
09:45:10 CODE DOES NOT ALLOW REGULAR PEOPLE TO LIVE THERE.
09:45:16 WHEN RENT GOES UP, WHERE WILL I GO AND WHO WILL I
09:45:17 DISPLACE.
09:45:20 IS MY BEST OPTION TO LEAVE AND WILL I BE DISPLACED.
09:45:24 HOW COULD EVERYONE WITHOUT MY GOOD FORTUNE FEEL?
09:45:25 YOU MUST KNOW.
09:45:27 THE ONLY THING SHOW UP TO TELL THAT YOU THINGS NEED TO
09:45:30 CHANGE AND WE ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH TO MAKE TAMPA A
09:45:31 WELCOMING CITY.
09:45:32 WE NEED MORE HOUSING NOW.
09:45:37 WE NEED TO MAKE IT LEGAL FOR STACKED TRIPLEXES ON EVERY
09:45:39 LOT THAT WE ARE BUILDING SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ON TODAY.
09:45:41 WE COULD DO SO MUCH MORE AND WOULD BE A START.
09:45:47 IF WE DON'T HOUSING SCARCITY AND POWER OF WEALTH WHERE
09:45:49 TAMPA WILL BE A DIVERSE PLACE FOR EVERYONE THAT COMES
09:45:52 HERE WILL ENJOY ALL THAT MAKES TAMPA GREAT.
09:45:55 I HOPE YOU AND OTHERS LISTEN ALSO SAY YES IN MY BACK
09:45:58 YARD FOR ABUNDANT EQUITABLE HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY
09:45:59 NOW.
09:46:01 THANK YOU.
09:46:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
09:46:51 >> OKAY, HELLO.
09:46:56 I AM SOVEREIGN DEXPA HOLDER OF THE COURSE KING JOHNNY
09:46:57 BERNARD BOOTH.
09:47:06 I'M HERE TO PRESENT DOCUMENTATION FOR THE GLOBAL I.D.
09:47:10 PASSPORT TRAVELERS CARD PAID IN FULL CARD.
09:47:13 THESE RIGHT HERE ARE GOING TO BE SOMETHING TEMPORARY
09:47:19 UNTIL WE GET THE NEW LAWFUL CURRENCY UP AND RUNNING.
09:47:40 I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU A MASTER SPREAD OF MINDS.
09:47:55 OUT I AM ALSO GOING TO CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE NEWS ON
09:48:03 THIS RIGHT HERE BECAUSE THIS IS STILL IMPORTANT.
09:48:37 OKAY.
09:48:42 OUR AFRICANS AMONG US.
09:48:48 I DECREE AND EXPLAIN TO YOU, LOOK, NO ONE IN COMMUNITY
09:48:55 WENT TO -- WE ARE OFFERING AN OLIVE BRANCH TO YOU.
09:48:57 WE LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE
09:49:04 WE LIKE MANY CULTURES, MANY INFLUENCERS.
09:49:05 LOOK, HOW DOES THIS SOUND?
09:49:09 WE WILL COME UP WITH AN AFRICAN DISTRICT IN THREE
09:49:11 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
09:49:15 WE HAVE SEEN THE ENCORE AREA IN AFRICAN HISTORY, BUT I
09:49:18 WANT SOME OF YOU IN DIFFERENT LIVING LIKE MANSIONS
09:49:19 ALSO.
09:49:22 AND WE ALSO WANT TO YOU BE IN DIFFERENT AREAS ALSO SO
09:49:26 THAT YOU CAN WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY MORE AND MORE.
09:49:30 AND I HEARD WHAT THE MAN SAID OF REPARATIONS.
09:49:34 26%.
09:49:35 NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
09:49:38 WE CAN SWING THAT.
09:49:40 MINGLE WITH EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, PRACTICING
09:49:42 AGAINST EACH OTHER'S SKIN TONE.
09:49:45 THAT IS NOT GOOD AT ALL AND WILL NEVER REALLY GET TO
09:49:49 KNOW THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU ARE IN.
09:49:54 WE LOVE EVERY ONCE.
09:49:55 AND INCLUDING --
09:49:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:50:07 THANK YOU FOR COMING.
09:50:09 >> THAT WAS THE FINAL PUBLIC SPEAKER.
09:50:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:50:13 ANY REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS?
09:50:15 >>CLERK: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
09:50:18 THE FIRST SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
09:50:20 STEPHANIE, IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE.
09:50:23 UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:50:24 >> GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.
09:50:28 I AM HAPPY TO BE SPEAKING TO YOU -- CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:50:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU.
09:50:31 >> HAPPY TO BE SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY ABOUT SOMETHING THAT
09:50:35 IS MY J-O-B.
09:50:38 I KNOW YOU DON'T THINK I HAVE ONE BUT I DO.
09:50:41 A PROPERTY MANAGER I SUPPORT THE TENANTS BILL OF
09:50:42 RIGHTS.
09:50:44 SOME MAY FEEL DIFFERENTLY.
09:50:49 I DON'T SEE TENANTS AS A MONEYMAKING VENTURE OF A NEED
09:50:52 OF A HOME TO LIVE IN.
09:50:55 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY'S PROGRAM HAS PROPER GUIDELINES.
09:50:58 I FEEL THE CITY SHOULD FOLLOW SUIT.
09:50:59 WHY REINVENT THE WHEEL.
09:51:01 I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU COLLABORATE WITH THE COUNTY
09:51:03 TO USE THE SAME FORM.
09:51:05 WHY DO I ASK THIS?
09:51:09 SINCE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS STATED THE TENANTS
09:51:13 RIGHTS, MY BROKERAGE WHICH HAS A HANDFUL OF PROPERTY
09:51:17 MANAGERS, THE ADMIN ASKED ME FOR THE FORM FOR CITY
09:51:20 PROPERTIES WHICH I HAD AND SUBMITTED BUT I ALSO HAD TO
09:51:24 TAKE THE TIME TO EDUCATE THAT NOT ALL PROPERTY MANAGERS
09:51:26 WITHIN THE CITY AND PROPERTIES WANT CITY ARE GOING TO
09:51:28 HAVE THAT FORM.
09:51:30 MANY RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND COUNTY DON'T REALLY
09:51:33 REALIZE THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
09:51:36 IT JUST MAKES SENSE FOR THE CITY AND COUNTY TO USE THE
09:51:39 SAME FORM AND COLLABORATE.
09:51:41 ALSO TAKE A MINUTE TO ADDRESS RENTAL REGISTRATION
09:51:45 SYSTEM ON THE 10/28 AGENDA.
09:51:49 AS A BUDGET COMMITTEE MEMBER, I FIND THIS PROGRAM
09:51:54 OFFENSIVE AS IT WASTES TIME AND ENERGY FROM STAFF NOT
09:51:58 TO MENTIONED 125 BUCKS A POP FOR THEM TO BE REGISTERED.
09:52:01 IF YOU WANT TO FIND A LANDLORD, CHECK THE TAX
09:52:03 ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
09:52:09 IF YOU WANT TO FIND THE TENANT, USPS OR KNOCK ON THE
09:52:10 DOOR.
09:52:15 IF YOU HAVE A TENANT BILL OF RIGHTS DOCUMENT, EVERY
09:52:19 CITY WILL ABLE TO PRODUCE THE DOCUMENTS FOR THE CURRENT
09:52:19 TENANT.
09:52:23 PUTS THE BURDEN OF RECORDKEEPING ON THE LANDLORD NOT
09:52:27 THE CITY STAFF OR THE CITY AT $125 BUCKS A POP.
09:52:30 I HAVE 44 UNITS IN MY SMALL LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:52:31 14 OF THEM ARE RENTED.
09:52:34 REMEMBER I LIVE NEXT TO MACDILL.
09:52:36 EIGHT OF THEM ARE CURRENTLY NOT REGISTERED.
09:52:41 THREE OF THOSE ARE -- ARE RUN BY LARGE PROPERTY
09:52:44 MANAGEMENT COMPANIES WITHIN THE CITY.
09:52:47 57% OF MY OWN LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT REGISTERED.
09:52:49 DOES THAT MAKE THEM BAD LANDLORDS?
09:52:50 I DON'T THINK SO.
09:52:53 IT JUST MEANS THAT THEY LIKELY DON'T KNOW THAT THE
09:52:54 PROGRAM EXISTS.
09:52:57 GET RID OF THE RENTAL REGISTRATION.
09:53:00 ALIGN THE TENANTS BILL OF RIGHTS WITH HILLSBOROUGH
09:53:00 COUNTY.
09:53:05 AND, PLEASE, TONIGHT, PUT NUMBER 14 BEFORE NUMBER 12,
09:53:09 BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE PAST MIDNIGHT.
09:53:13 AND ALL OF THE BUILDINGS IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT HAVE BEEN
09:53:17 BUILT WITH OR WITHOUT THE CAR IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS,
09:53:22 NOT ONE UNIT OF THE 477 HAVE BEEN AFFORDABLE.
09:53:23 LET'S NOT KID OURSELVES.
09:53:25 HAVE A GOOD DAY, GENTLEMEN.
09:53:27 SEE YOU TONIGHT.
09:53:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WAY WAS THE NUMBER SHE WAS SPEAKING
09:53:30 ON.
09:53:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 14 VERSUS 12.
09:53:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THAT WAS TONIGHT.
09:53:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MENTIONED RENTAL CERTIFICATE.
09:53:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE RENTAL REGISTRATION.
09:53:44 I DON'T THINK -- I THINK SHE WAS JUST MAKING COMMENTS
09:53:47 IN REFERENCE TO IT.
09:53:52 >> RENTAL REGISTRATION IS TODAY.
09:53:55 >>CLERK: THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:53:56 THANK YOU.
09:53:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:54:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 100 ON THE AGENDA IS RELATED TO A --
09:54:08 ON THE RENTERS BILL OF RIGHTS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
09:54:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN
09:54:11 RENTAL REGISTRATION.
09:54:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: RENTAL REGISTRATION.
09:54:16 CLERK INDICATED SOMETHING --
09:54:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RENTAL REGISTRATION IS A TOPIC THAT
09:54:21 HAS BEEN CONTINUED SEVERAL TIMES AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN
09:54:24 IT IS COMING BACK.
09:54:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
09:54:28 ANY MORE REGISTERED SPEAKERS?
09:54:30 >>CLERK: THAT CONCLUDES.
09:54:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GO QUICKLY AND GO TO CONSENT AGENDA.
09:54:39 FIRST UP I HAVE MR. CITRO, PUBLIC SAFETY, MOVE 3-8,
09:54:40 SIR.
09:54:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR, ONE SECOND, MR. CHAIR AND I
09:54:48 AM RIGHT ON TOP OF IT.
09:54:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: LIKE TO MOVE ITEM AGENDA 3-8.
09:54:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:54:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
09:54:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:54:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:54:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:55:01 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:55:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:55:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:55:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:55:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY ITEM NUMBER 8 I
09:55:11 WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE WENDY'S CORPORATION FOR THEIR
09:55:12 GIFTS.
09:55:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO NOTED, SIR.
09:55:18 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:55:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PARKS AND REC, 9-11.
09:55:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 9-11.
09:55:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL ROTE.
09:55:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:55:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:55:29 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:55:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:55:32 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:55:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:55:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:55:37 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:55:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PUBLIC WORKS OF JOHN DINGFELDER,
09:55:42 12-29.
09:55:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:55:48 I WILL MOVE THOSE 12-29.
09:55:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:55:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
09:55:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:55:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:55:53 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:56:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:56:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEMS.
09:56:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE.
09:56:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SILT SECOND.
09:56:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
09:56:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:56:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:56:20 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:56:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:56:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:56:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:56:30 BUILDINGS AND PRESERVATION -- WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF
09:56:31 ITEM NUMBER 40.
09:56:33 53 WILL BE ON A STAFF REPORT.
09:56:38 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE ITEMS 41-64 MINUS 53.
09:56:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:56:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
09:56:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:56:45 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:56:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:56:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:56:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:56:49 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:56:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:56:53 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:56:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE
09:56:58 ITEM 65-75, SIR.
09:57:02 >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE ITEM 65-75.
09:57:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA HAS MOVED IT.
09:57:06 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
09:57:07 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:57:11 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:57:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:57:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:57:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:57:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:57:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:57:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:57:24 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:57:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GO 76.
09:57:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOVE IT BY ONE MOTION.
09:57:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I BELIEVE IT WAS MR. VIERA -- VIERA?
09:57:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, ME.
09:57:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED IT.
09:57:37 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
09:57:39 ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
09:57:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:57:42 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:57:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:57:44 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:57:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:57:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:57:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:57:51 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:57:52 [INAUDIBLE]
09:57:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA HAS MOVED IT AND MR.
09:57:56 CITRO SECONDED IT.
09:57:58 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:58:05 ANY OPPOSED.
09:58:06 ITEM NUMBER 82.
09:58:12 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH ZAIN HUSSEIN --
09:58:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONE MOMENT, SIR.
09:58:20 I.T., WE HAVE NO SCREEN -- YOU MAY CONTINUE.
09:58:24 >> ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
09:58:28 ITEM 82 IS FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
09:58:35 THE ADDRESS IS 2918 NORTH WOODROW AVENUE REQUESTING A
09:58:39 REZONE FROM RS-50 TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
09:58:41 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
09:58:45 THE SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN DROPPED OFF TO THE CITY CLERK
09:58:45 AS OF YESTERDAY.
09:58:48 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
09:58:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
09:58:50 ANY QUESTIONS?
09:59:03 WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
09:59:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY FROM THE SECOND FLOOR
09:59:06 REGISTERED FOR 82.
09:59:09 REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM?
09:59:11 MOVE TO CLOSE.
09:59:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
09:59:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
09:59:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:59:15 OPPOSED?
09:59:18 MR. VIERA, ITEM NUMBER 82, SIR.
09:59:21 >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
09:59:24 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
09:59:27 2918 NORTH WOODROW AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
09:59:30 FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 ARE
09:59:34 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
09:59:36 SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
09:59:39 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
09:59:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:59:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
09:59:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:59:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:59:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:59:49 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:59:52 >>CLERK: MANISCALCO --
09:59:53 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:59:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:59:57 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:59:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 83.
10:00:02 MR. CARLSON IS ABSTAINING.
10:00:05 >>BILL CARLSON: YES ABSTAINING.
10:00:09 MOTION TO MOVE AND FILE MY ABSTENTION.
10:00:13 THE COMPANY I AM RETAINED HAS INTEREST IN THIS MATTER.
10:00:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON MOVED THIS ITEM.
10:00:18 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED.
10:00:18 ALL IN FAVOR.
10:00:19 OPPOSED.
10:00:22 ZAIN, ITEM 83.
10:00:27 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AGENDA ITEM 83,
10:00:29 CASE REZ-21-38.
10:00:31 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:00:37 ADDRESS 4701 NORTH HIMES AVENUE AND 4610, 4612, 4614
10:00:41 AND 4616 NORTH EMERALD AVENUE.
10:00:47 PROPOSING A PD AND RS-60 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
10:00:48 SCHOOL.
10:00:51 SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN DROPPED OFF YESTERDAY TO THE CITY
10:00:54 CLERK AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
10:00:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:00:56 ANY QUESTIONS?
10:01:00 WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
10:01:03 ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR THAT ARE REGISTERED?
10:01:04 ALREADY.
10:01:07 SWEAR THEM IN.
10:01:10 >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, DO YOU SWEAR OR
10:01:12 AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE
10:01:15 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
10:01:16 >> I DO.
10:01:18 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
10:01:23 >> THIS IS KAMI CORBETT REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT WITH
10:01:25 HILL, WARD AND HENDERSON.
10:01:27 WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT
10:01:28 HAVE.
10:01:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
10:01:34 ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK ON THE SECOND FLOOR?.
10:01:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE,
10:01:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
10:01:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION CARRIED.
10:01:44 MR. MANISCALCO, NUMBER 83.
10:01:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:01:51 AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, 4701 NORTH
10:01:57 HIMES AVENUE, 4610, 4612, 4614, 4616 NORTH EMERALD
10:01:59 AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY
10:02:02 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:02:05 CLARIFICATION PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RS-60
10:02:09 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
10:02:12 SCHOOL PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:02:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:02:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:02:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:02:18 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:02:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:02:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:02:24 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
10:02:28 ABSTAINING.
10:02:31 ITEM NUMBER 84.
10:02:38 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 84, ZAIN HUSSEIN.
10:02:41 REZ-21-44.
10:02:46 ADDRESS IS 504 SOUTH MOODY AVENUE.
10:02:50 FROM CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
10:02:56 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED. OF I'M HERE IF ANY
10:02:58 QUESTIONS THAT ARE NEEDED.
10:03:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF?
10:03:01 WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
10:03:14 ALL RIGHT.
10:03:17 [INAUDIBLE]
10:03:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAVING DIFFICULTIES, MADAM DEPUTY
10:03:23 CLERK?
10:03:27 SIR, IF YOU CAN HEAR US TURN YOUR VIDEO ON IF YOU CAN
10:03:33 HEAR US.
10:03:36 RANDY COEN, A REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS ITEM?
10:03:41 >> YES, SIR, IF I MAY SPEAK, RANDY COEN.
10:03:44 DAVID MECHANIK IS ON THE LINE BUT EVIDENTLY HAVING
10:03:45 TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
10:03:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAVE THE CLERK SWEAR YOU IN.
10:03:50 >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
10:03:53 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT
10:03:56 TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
10:03:57 >> I DO.
10:03:58 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
10:04:00 >> BASICALLY WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT
10:04:04 YOU MAY HAVE.
10:04:09 OUR CLIENT JAMES RAMOS MAY BE ON THE LINE, AND HE MAY BE
10:04:11 HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES AS WELL.
10:04:16 FOR COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, MR. RAMOS WANTED TO SHOW HIM
10:04:19 REVISED ELEVATION OF THE END OF THE TOWN HOUSE BUILDS
10:04:23 THAT FACE MOODY WERE OF A CONCERN FOR HIM AND THAT THEY
10:04:27 HAVE BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY ENHANCED, SHALL WE SAY, BUT
10:04:29 EVIDENTLY WE ARE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WITH
10:04:32 JAMES AND DAVID.
10:04:33 SO --
10:04:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER.
10:04:38 >> WE RECOGNIZE THE COMMENT AND ADDRESSING IT.
10:04:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. COEN, MY RECOLLECTION AND
10:04:45 DOCUMENTS WE WERE UNANIMOUSLY IN SUPPORT A COUPLE OF
10:04:49 WEEKS AGO SO I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TONIGHT, TODAY.
10:04:50 >> THANK YOU.
10:04:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO STAFF FROM
10:04:54 COUNCILMEMBERS?
10:04:58 ANYONE ELSE SPEAK AGO THIS ITEM ANYBODY ELSE
10:04:59 REGISTERED.
10:05:03 >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
10:05:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION AND SECOND.
10:05:06 ALL IN FAVOR.
10:05:13 MR. CARLSON, NUMBER 84, PLEASE, SIR.
10:05:16 >>BILL CARLSON: SIR, WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER
10:05:21 REZ-21-44, ORDINANCE OF SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE
10:05:25 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 504 SOUTH
10:05:28 MOODY AVENUE IN CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
10:05:31 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED SECTION 1 ARE ZONING DISTRICT
10:05:36 CLASSIFICATION CG COMMERCIAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
10:05:39 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:05:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:05:42 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:05:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:05:45 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:05:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:05:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:05:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:05:50 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:05:54 >> ITEM 85, ZAIN.
10:05:57 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
10:06:03 CASE NUMBER 85, REZ 21-54 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:06:08 ADDRESS IS 3216 WEST AZEELE STREET REZONE FROM RM-24
10:06:11 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
10:06:12 MEDICAL OFFICE.
10:06:15 SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN DROPPED OFF AS OF YESTERDAY TO THE
10:06:16 CITY CLERK.
10:06:19 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED ETCH.
10:06:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:06:22 ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:06:24 DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT.
10:06:34 >>CLERK: MR. TYLER HUDSON SHOULD BE ONLINE.
10:06:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO WE HAVE MR. HUDSON?
10:06:44 OKAY.
10:06:47 WE SEE RANDY COEN AGAIN.
10:06:49 SWEAR THEM IN FOR MR. HUDSON.
10:06:51 >>CLERK: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
10:06:54 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT
10:06:57 TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
10:06:59 >> I DO.
10:07:03 >> THIS IS RANDY COEN, EVIDENTLY WE ARE STILL HAVING
10:07:08 TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES AS WELL HERE ON BEHALF OF MY
10:07:08 CLIENT.
10:07:10 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
10:07:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS.
10:07:15 >> SAL FLEISHMAN, ARCHITECT.
10:07:17 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
10:07:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE
10:07:31 REPRESENTATIVES?
10:07:38 >> I CAN'T FIND MY CURSOR HERE.
10:07:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, HOLD ON.
10:07:40 HOLD ON.
10:07:42 HOLD ON.
10:07:45 MR. HUDSON, BEFORE I MOVE ON, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK
10:07:49 BEFORE I MOVE ON FOR ANY OTHER PERSONS OF INTEREST.
10:07:49 >> NO, SIR.
10:07:54 TYLER HUDSON, 401 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
10:07:57 THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, FOR SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT
10:07:57 AGAIN.
10:07:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
10:08:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:08:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
10:08:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:08:05 MR. MIRANDA.
10:08:06 SECOND, CITRO.
10:08:07 ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:08:08 OPPOSED.
10:08:10 MR. CITRO, TAKE NUMBER 85.
10:08:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
10:08:15 AND ADOPTION AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
10:08:20 GENERAL VICINITY OF 3216 WEST AZEELE, STREET, IN THE
10:08:22 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
10:08:25 IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS
10:08:29 RM-24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
10:08:33 MEDICAL OFFICE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:08:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:08:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:08:38 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:08:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:08:41 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:08:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:08:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:08:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:08:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:08:52 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY ITEM NUMBER 86.
10:08:58 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:09:02 REZ-21-57.
10:09:08 THE ADDRESS IS 512 SOUTH MEHLVILLE AVENUE REZONE FROM
10:09:12 RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED
10:09:17 DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
10:09:19 FORMS TURNED IN TO THE CLERK.
10:09:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTION FROM STAFF.
10:09:24 HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT?
10:09:25 SWEAR HER IN.
10:09:28 >>CLERK: SO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU
10:09:30 ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IT THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
10:09:31 TRUTH.
10:09:34 >> JAMIE MAIER WITH THE LAW FIRM OF HILL, WARD AND
10:09:36 HENDERSON FOR THE APPLICANT.
10:09:38 HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
10:09:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE REPRESENTATIVE?
10:09:41 ANY QUESTIONS?
10:09:43 ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
10:09:46 ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
10:09:48 >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
10:09:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A MOTION AND SECOND.
10:09:54 MR. DINGFELDER, 86.
10:09:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:10:03 IN RECORD TO ITEM 86, FILE NUMBER REZ 21-57, MOVE THE
10:10:05 FOLLOWING ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
10:10:10 BASED ON THE FACTS AND FINDING STATED AT THE ORIGINAL
10:10:10 FIRST HEARING.
10:10:14 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:10:17 512 SOUTH MEHLVILLE AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:10:20 FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
10:10:25 ZONING DISTRICT RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD,
10:10:26 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED
10:10:29 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:10:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:10:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:10:32 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:10:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
10:10:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:10:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:10:38 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:10:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:10:44 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO VOTING NO.
10:10:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 87.
10:10:51 >> ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:11:00 87, FILE SU 2-20-08, SPECIAL USE TO APPROVE A SCHOOL IN
10:11:04 RS-60 SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.
10:11:10 FOR THE ADDRESS AT 4626, 4630, 4601.
10:11:13 AND 4611 NORTH ROME AVENUE.
10:11:16 SITE PLANS WERE TURNED IN YESTERDAY TO THE CITY CLERK.
10:11:18 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
10:11:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:11:21 ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:11:23 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
10:11:25 >>CLERK: DAVID MECHANIK.
10:11:27 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, SIR, GOOD MORNING.
10:11:32 MARK BENTLEY, 401 SOUTH JACKSON STREET.
10:11:34 33602.
10:11:36 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS.
10:11:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:11:41 ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON?
10:11:42 ITEM ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
10:11:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND COMMENT.
10:11:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOR MR. BENTLEY OR --
10:11:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR MR. BENTLEY.
10:12:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SWEAR MR. BENTLEY IN.
10:12:04 HOLD YOUR HAND UP.
10:12:07 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU
10:12:10 ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
10:12:11 TRUTH?
10:12:12 >> I DO.
10:12:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MARK, LEADING INTO THIS, WE DID
10:12:20 HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD COUPLE OF FOLKS IN THE
10:12:22 NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNED OF TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AND THAT
10:12:23 SORT OF THING.
10:12:26 I BELIEVE AND COUNCIL VOTED ACCORDINGLY THAT YOU
10:12:29 RESPONDED TO THAT APPROPRIATELY AND I THINK IT WAS
10:12:32 UNANIMOUS DECISION AT FIRST READING, BUT I WANTED TO
10:12:34 MAKE SURE AND GET YOUR ASSURANCES THAT THE
10:12:36 ADMINISTRATION AT THE SCHOOL WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
10:12:47 THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THE TRAFFIC ISSUE ARISE.
10:12:49 YOU HAD YOUR PRINCIPAL THERE THE OTHER DAY BUT TO
10:12:52 REMIND YOU AND REMIND THEM THAT THIS IS NOT JUST A
10:12:55 LET'S GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND GET THIS DONE.
10:12:58 WE ALL NEED TO REMAIN GOOD NEIGHBORS AND I AM SURE THAT
10:12:59 THE SCHOOL IS.
10:13:01 >> THEY INTEND TO.
10:13:05 IN FACT THEY WERE A LITTLE SURPRISED AND TAKEN ABACK.
10:13:08 EVERY SCHOOL YEAR THERE IS KIND OF LEARNING CURVE, THE
10:13:10 FIRST SEMESTER.
10:13:13 I THINK THEY HAD ONE COMPLAINT THIS YEAR, BUT THEY
10:13:15 INTEND TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE EVENT THERE
10:13:17 ARE ANY PROBLEMS.
10:13:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. BENTLEY.
10:13:20 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:13:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BENTLEY?
10:13:25 ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
10:13:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:13:29 >> SECOND.
10:13:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA HAS MOVED TO CLOSE.
10:13:33 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
10:13:35 ALL IN FAVOR.
10:13:36 OPPOSED?
10:13:37 MOTION CARRIES.
10:13:41 ITEM NUMBER 87.
10:13:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 87, FILES NUMBER SU-20-08.
10:13:50 ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPROVING A
10:13:53 SCHOOL IN RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING
10:13:59 DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL MUCH 4626, 4630, 4601 AND 4611
10:14:03 NORTH ROME AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS
10:14:07 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED NORTH ROME OVER.
10:14:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
10:14:10 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:14:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:14:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:14:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:14:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:14:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:14:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 88, ZAIN.
10:14:26 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ZAIN HUSSEIN, FILE NUMBER SU
10:14:28 2-21-04.
10:14:30 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:14:34 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPROVING A
10:14:39 DRIVE-IN WINDOW OR RESTAURANT DRIVE-IN WINDOW IN THE
10:14:45 PD-A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVE 17519 BRUCE B.
10:14:47 DOWNS BOULEVARD.
10:14:51 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
10:14:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF.
10:14:54 HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
10:14:56 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS DAVE MECHANIK.
10:14:58 CAN YOU HEAR OR SEE ME?
10:15:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN, DAVE?
10:15:02 >> YES.
10:15:07 >>CLERK: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR
10:15:09 OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL
10:15:12 BE THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
10:15:15 >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
10:15:17 WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:15:20 THE COUNCIL APPROVED THIS UNANIMOUSLY AND THERE WAS NO
10:15:27 OPPOSITION.
10:15:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
10:15:32 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
10:15:35 >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
10:15:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST ASK FOR THE SECOND FLOOR JUST
10:15:38 FOR THE RECORD.
10:15:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR FOR THIS
10:15:41 ITEM?
10:15:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:15:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
10:15:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
10:15:48 OPPOSED.
10:15:48 MOTION GRANTED.
10:15:52 BACK TO MR. VIERA, ITEM NUMBER 88.
10:15:56 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR, MY PLEASURE.
10:15:59 AN ORDINANCE SECOND READING AN ADOPTION, ORDINANCE
10:16:03 APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 APPROVING A
10:16:07 DRIVE-IN WINDOW AND RESTAURANT DRIVE-IN WINDOW IN THE
10:16:10 PD-A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVE ZONING DISTRICT
10:16:14 17519 BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:16:17 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:16:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:16:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:16:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:16:22 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:16:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:16:24 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:16:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:16:31 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:16:35 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT
10:16:41 COORDINATION SAYS REZ-20-86 FOR SECOND READING AND
10:16:42 ADOPTION.
10:16:48 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2715 WEST
10:16:52 TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OFFICE
10:16:55 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE
10:17:00 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OR COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING.
10:17:02 I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
10:17:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF?
10:17:04 QUESTIONS?
10:17:06 MOVE TO THE APPLICANT.
10:17:07 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:17:08 STEVE MICHELINI.
10:17:13 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
10:17:14 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
10:17:18 THIS IS A REZONING THAT ALLOWED THE OFF-STREET PARKING
10:17:22 TO OCCUR ADJACENT TO A RESTAURANT.
10:17:24 RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.
10:17:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
10:17:27 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
10:17:35 ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
10:17:37 ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
10:17:39 ANYONE REGISTERED.
10:17:42 >>CLERK: NO ONE REGISTERED.
10:17:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION AND A SECOND.
10:17:46 BACK TO MANISCALCO.
10:17:47 NUMBER 89.
10:17:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
10:17:53 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL IS VICINITY OF 2715
10:17:56 WEST TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:17:59 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
10:18:03 ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
10:18:06 OFFICE BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
10:18:10 OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OR COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET
10:18:12 PARKING PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:18:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:18:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
10:18:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:18:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:18:18 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:18:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:18:20 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:18:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:18:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:18:28 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
10:18:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 90.
10:18:33 >> ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:18:38 ITEM NUMBER 09 CASE REZ-21-64.
10:18:40 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:18:46 ORDINANCE REZONING 3602 WEST AZEELE STREET REQUESTING
10:18:51 RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED
10:18:55 DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL.
10:18:57 MATERIALS WERE TURNED IN.
10:18:59 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
10:19:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:19:04 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT STANDING BY?
10:19:07 >>CLERK: NO ONE REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.
10:19:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK
10:19:10 ON THIS ITEM?
10:19:12 WE HAVE NO ONE REGISTERED, CORRECT.
10:19:14 MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:19:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
10:19:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:19:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
10:19:19 ANY OPPOSED?
10:19:21 MOTION CARRIED.
10:19:23 MR. CARLSON, ITEM NUMBER 90.
10:19:25 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER
10:19:31 REZ-21-64 ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
10:19:33 ADOPTION REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:19:37 3602 WEST AZEELE STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:19:39 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
10:19:43 ZONING DISTRICT RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD
10:19:46 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OFFICE BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL AND
10:19:49 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:19:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
10:19:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:19:53 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:19:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:19:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:19:57 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:19:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:20:05 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:20:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 19.
10:20:12 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:20:17 91, REZ-21-65 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
10:20:19 ADOPTION.
10:20:26 3018 NORTH TAMPA STREET REQUESTING RS-50 TO PD PLANNED
10:20:28 DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
10:20:31 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF.
10:20:33 I'M HERE IF NEEDED.
10:20:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:20:38 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
10:20:40 DO WE HAVE AN AIR FORCE?
10:20:42 ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK.
10:20:43 >> THREE SPEAKERS.
10:20:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
10:21:05 ARE YOU THE APPLICANT, SIR?
10:21:09 >> NO, I AM A NEIGHBOR OF THE PROPOSED REZONE PROPERTY.
10:21:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE YOU A REPRESENTATIVE?
10:21:16 >> YES, BEN CLARK, 106 WEST ADDERLY.
10:21:18 I OWN AND LIVE AT THE PROPERTY.
10:21:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
10:21:25 >>CLERK: AND ANYONE WHO IS REGISTERED ONLINE.
10:21:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SEE THE ONES REGISTERED SO SWEAR IN
10:21:29 EVERYBODY AT ONE TIME.
10:21:31 >>CLERK: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
10:21:34 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT
10:21:37 TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10:21:38 >> YES, I DO.
10:21:39 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
10:21:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOLKS ON THE SECOND FLOOR, IF THEY
10:21:44 ARE SPEAKING, EVERYBODY HAS TO RAISE THEIR HANDS IF
10:21:45 THEY ARE SPEAKING.
10:21:48 SO THE GENTLEMAN BEHIND YOU WITH THE FOLDER, HE IS
10:21:52 SPEAKING?
10:21:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE THEY WITH THE APPLICANT?
10:21:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE THEY WITH THE APPLICANT OR IN
10:21:58 OPPOSITION?
10:22:01 >> WE ARE IN OPPOSITION.
10:22:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT
10:22:08 FIRST.
10:22:09 ALL RIGHT.
10:22:13 HAVE WE SWORN THE APPLICANTS IN?
10:22:18 RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU ARE THE APPLICANT TO BE SWORN
10:22:28 IN.
10:22:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND IF
10:22:33 YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ELSE US.
10:22:34 >> I AM NICK CLARK.
10:22:40 101 WEST ADDERLY ADJACENT TO NORTH TAMPA.
10:22:46 REZONED PROPERTY --
10:22:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, SIR.
10:22:50 DEAL WITH THE APPLICANT FIRST ON THE SCREEN AND WE WILL
10:22:52 COME TO YOU WHEN WE ASK FOR OPPOSITION.
10:22:53 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:23:02 WE HAVE MR. ROHELS.
10:23:06 >> GOOD MORNING AND MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS.
10:23:13 I AM WITH HIGH POINT ENGINEERING IN TAMPA, 5300 WEST
10:23:15 SIGH DRESS STREET AND I HAVE BEEN WORN.
10:23:23 I'M HERE REPRESENTING BRICK AND MORTAR.
10:23:26 WE ARE AWARE OF THE GENTLEMAN THAT IS GOING TO SPEAK IN
10:23:34 OUR REZONING PETITION TODAY THE
10:23:36 PROPERTY OWNER HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM.
10:23:47 AND HAVE DISCUSSED EXTENSIVELY HIS PROJECT WITH HIM.
10:23:52 WE ARE HERE TO EXPRESS ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT
10:23:53 NEIGHBORS OR YOU MAY HAVE.
10:23:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
10:23:59 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
10:24:01 ALL RIGHT, WE WILL GO TO THE SECOND FLOOR FOR THE
10:24:06 OPPOSITION.
10:24:08 YOU ARE FREE TO STATE YOUR NAME AND SPEAK.
10:24:12 >> NICK CLARK, 106 WEST ADDERLY STREET, THE PROPERTY
10:24:18 ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY PROPOSED TO BE REZONED.
10:24:20 I'M HERE TO STATE MY OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING.
10:24:24 I AM NOT OPPOSED TO BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY AS A
10:24:26 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, JUST OPPOSED TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY
10:24:32 ATTACHED FOR TOWN HOMES, THREE STORIES EACH WITH A ROOF
10:24:38 TOP TERRACE THAT WOULD LOOK INTO ABOUT TEN PROPERTIES,
10:24:41 PRIVATE SINGLE FAMILY HOME BACKYARDS.
10:24:44 JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRIVACY ISSUES.
10:24:47 WHEN WE MOVED INTO THAT HOUSE AND THE PROPERTY NEXT
10:24:55 DOOR, YOU KNOW, WE -- WE LOOKED TO HAVE PRIVACY AND WE
10:24:58 THINK THAT HAVING PEOPLE ON A ROOFTOP TERRACE
10:25:01 OVERLOOKING OUR PROPERTY AND PARKING ON AN ALREADY
10:25:06 CONGESTED 106 WEST ADDERLY STREET WILL COMPLICATE
10:25:09 THINGS FOR THE NEIGHBORS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
10:25:12 WHEN WE BUY A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, WE EXPECT
10:25:16 SINGLE-FAMILIES TO BE IN THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND
10:25:18 I WARRANTED TO STATE MY OPPOSITION TO THAT.
10:25:21 I HAVE TWO OF MY NEIGHBORS HERE TO SPEAK ON THE MATTER
10:25:22 ALSO.
10:25:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:25:30 >> I THINK I NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
10:25:32 >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
10:25:35 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT
10:25:37 TO IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
10:25:38 >> I DO.
10:25:41 MY NAME IS MICHAEL DELANO.
10:25:44 THE RESIDENT 3012 NORTH TAMPA STREET.
10:25:47 LIVED THERE SIX YEARS AND LIVED IN YBOR CITY BEFORE
10:25:48 THAT.
10:25:51 I TRAVELED EXTENSIVELY IN SALES AND BEFORE THAT
10:25:53 HOMELAND SECURITY AND BEFORE THAT U.S. NAVY AND ALARMED
10:25:56 WHAT I AM SEEING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A LACK OF
10:25:59 CONTINUITY COMPARED TO MOST CITIES I SEE AND IN LACK OF
10:26:01 THE CONSIDERATION OF THE PARKING AND SAFETY ISSUE THAT
10:26:03 ARISE WITH THE PUSH FOR MULTIFAMILY.
10:26:07 YOU DRIVE ALONG HIGHLAND AVENUE AND THE ONE-WAY STREETS
10:26:12 FROM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, 1.75-MILE STRETCH WE LIVE ON ALL
10:26:15 THE WAY TO FLORIBRASKA.
10:26:19 ALONG THAT I DON'T KNOW ANY DUPLEX FOR TRIPLEX OR A
10:26:21 QUADIPLEX AS A PROPOSED DESIGN.
10:26:24 VERY ALARMED BY THAT AS WELL AS THE HEIGHT.
10:26:27 I DON'T THINK ANY BUILDING ALONG THAT STREET THAT IS
10:26:30 OVER TWO STORY INSPECTION WOULD HAVE A FOUR-STORY
10:26:30 TERRACE.
10:26:34 IN ADDITION TO THAT ALMOST EVERY HOME FACES INWARD TO
10:26:34 TAMPA.
10:26:35 THIS DOES NOT.
10:26:39 MOST EVERY HOME HAVE DRIVEWAYS THEY CAN PARK IN.
10:26:43 THIS AS FAR AS I CAN TELL DON'T HAVE TOUGH PARKING.
10:26:44 CONCERNED OF THAT SAFETYWISE.
10:26:48 AND ALMOST EVERY OTHER HOME HAVE CANOPIES AND TREES.
10:26:49 THIS DOES NOT AS WELL.
10:26:52 WE HAVE PRIVACY AND SECURITY THAT NICK TOUCHED ON.
10:26:54 AN EXAMPLE USING NORTHBOUND FROM MIRE YARD BEFORE AND
10:26:56 PROPOSED AFTER.
10:26:58 WITH PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO LOOK DOWN.
10:27:03 WE HAVE ABOUT TEN HOMES IN THE VICINITY.
10:27:09 WE HAVE ABOUT TEN HOMES IN THE VICINITY -- I ONLY HAVE
10:27:11 THREE MINUTES -- THAT WILL BE AFFECTED THINK ABOUT AND
10:27:14 ONLY TAKES A SCATTERING OF THIS THROUGHOUT THE HEIGHTS
10:27:15 TO OPEN UP EVERYBODY HE IS BACK YARD.
10:27:20 I HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY, TINDEL
10:27:24 OLIVER AND THE MOBILITY STUDY AND FDOT AS WE ARE TRYING
10:27:26 TO IMPROVE TAMPA AND FLORIDA STREET FOR THE PAST FEW
10:27:27 YEARS.
10:27:31 I HAVE AN E-MAIL FROM TINDEL OLIVER THAT THE DESIGN
10:27:35 THEY ARE LEANING TOWARD IS TO REDUCE THE TRAFFIC FLOW
10:27:39 FROM TWO LANES TO -- FROM THREE LANES TO TWO LANES FOR
10:27:42 MORE SEPARATION OF VEHICLES.
10:27:46 THEIR PROPOSED DRIVE LANE FOR IN QUADIPLEX WAS ORIGINALLY
10:27:49 ON TAMPA STREET AND GOT REJECTED.
10:27:54 THEIR SOLUTION TO PUT THIS ON ADDERLY STREET WHICH IS
10:27:56 POORLY MAINTAINED STREET THAT PEOPLE PARK ON BOTH SIDES
10:27:59 OF.
10:28:01 WE HAVE SAFETY CONCERNS OF THE ELDERLY AND EMERGENCY
10:28:03 VEHICLES ARE NOT ABLE TO GET BACK THERE.
10:28:06 THERE ARE TALKS OF JUST NOT ENOUGH PARKING AND ADDING
10:28:08 THIS WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE PARKING ON A STREET THAT IS
10:28:10 POORLY MAINTAINED WOULD BE AN ISSUE AS WELL.
10:28:12 I WENT OUT THERE AND MEASURED IT.
10:28:17 LESS THAN 24 FEET CURB TO CURB ON THE INSIDE.
10:28:20 PROPOSED DRIVE LANE ON THE DRAWING IS 24 FEET WIDE.
10:28:22 IN A SENSE IT IS DUMPING THE TRAFFIC ON A SLIGHTLY
10:28:26 SMALLER STREET THAT I SAID IS POORLY MAINTAINED AND
10:28:28 DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING AS WHOLE.
10:28:31 JUST KIND OF AS A SUMMARY, I WILL BE HAPPY TO LEAVE
10:28:33 THIS MATERIAL BEHIND, BUT WE ARE CONCERNED WHERE IT IS
10:28:35 HEADED ESPECIALLY IF THERE IS A HURRICANE OR SOMETHING
10:28:36 LIKE THAT.
10:28:38 WE ARE SHORT ON PARKING AND SHORT ON TRAFFIC.
10:28:41 EVEN FDOT WHO IS TRYING TO PUSH THE CORRIDOR IS TRYING
10:28:45 TO ADD A 12-FOOT BIKE LANE AND PEDESTRIAN LANE AND
10:28:46 REDUCE THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE.
10:28:49 SO WITH THAT, WE ARE VERY OPPOSED TO IT AND THANK YOU
10:28:50 FOR YOUR TIME.
10:28:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
10:28:55 QUESTION FOR THE GENTLEMAN.
10:28:57 AND THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN THIS MORNING, TAKING OUT
10:28:59 OF YOUR BUSY SCHEDULE.
10:29:06 THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT YOU HELD UP OR THE DRAWING THAT YOU
10:29:12 HELD UP I AM LOOKING AT A SIMILAR A SIMILAR DRAWING ON
10:29:13 THE COMPUTER.
10:29:16 MY UNDERSTANDING -- CAN YOU HOLD THAT BACK UP AGAIN.
10:29:17 >> THIS ONE?
10:29:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
10:29:25 MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LITTLE PERSON ON THE SIDE IS
10:29:28 WALKING ON WHAT WOULD BE TAMPA STREET.
10:29:33 AND WHEN YOU -- SO -- AND -- BECAUSE -- BECAUSE OF WHAT
10:29:36 I THOUGHT YOU SAID QUICKLY THAT ALL THOSE REAR GARAGES
10:29:39 WERE GOING TO BE ON TAMPA STREET.
10:29:41 YOU ARE COMING IN OFF OF TAMPA STREET.
10:29:41 YOU ARE TURNING.
10:29:44 AND THEN -- THEN YOU LOAD INTO THOSE GARAGES.
10:29:46 I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ON
10:29:47 THAT.
10:29:51 >> SIR, WOULD YOU TURN -- CORRECT, ON TO ADDERLY
10:29:52 STREET.
10:29:55 THIS STREET THAT IS ALREADY A BRICK STREET THAT IS
10:29:57 ASPHALTED OVER IN POOR SHAPE.
10:30:02 DRIVE DOWN THERE AND A POSED DRIVE LANE INTO THE SIDE
10:30:05 THAT WILL WRAP AROUND INTO THOSE GARAGES.
10:30:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF
10:30:10 THE REAR GARAGES WERE NOT FACING TAMPA STREET BECAUSE
10:30:17 CLEARLY THAT WOULD BE AESTHETICALLY PRETTY HORRIFIC.
10:30:22 THE FIRST GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE THIS MORNING SOUNDED TO
10:30:27 ME LIKE ONE OF, YOU BIGGEST CONCERNS WAS THE ROOFTOP
10:30:31 AMENITY, YOU KNOW, LOOKING DOWN INTO YOUR BACKYARDS.
10:30:34 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EVEN CAME UP DURING THE INITIAL
10:30:35 HEARING.
10:30:38 I DON'T THINK I WAS NECESSARILY AWARE THAT THERE WERE
10:30:41 GOING TO BE ROOFTOPS, I DON'T THINK -- I DON'T THINK
10:30:45 THAT THESE TOWN HOMES ARE -- ARE OVER 35 FEET.
10:30:48 AND WE WILL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH STAFF ON THAT,
10:30:51 BUT EVEN -- EVEN NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE ALLOWED TO
10:30:54 BE 35 FEET TALL.
10:30:55 IN THE CODE.
10:30:58 WE WILL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH STAFF TO SEE IF THE
10:31:00 TOWN HOMES ARE AT THE 35 FEET.
10:31:04 BUT THEN IF YOU ARE TALKING 35 FEET PLUS PEOPLE
10:31:07 STANDING ON THE ROOF, YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ISSUE.
10:31:09 SO WE WILL ADDRESS THAT WITH STAFF AND THE APPLICANT IN
10:31:10 A MINUTE.
10:31:19 THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN, GENTLEMEN.
10:31:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE GENTLEMAN WHO JUST SPOKE.
10:31:22 YOU SAID WOULD YOU LEAVE THOSE BEHIND.
10:31:24 WHEN YOU SAID THAT, IS THAT YOUR INTENTION THAT YOU
10:31:28 WANT THAT INTO THE RECORD?
10:31:29 >> LEAVE WHAT --
10:31:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR DOCUMENTS.
10:31:33 YOU MADE REFERENCE OF LEAVING THEM BEHIND.
10:31:37 THE QUESTION IS, IS IT YOUR INTENTION TO HAVE THEM PART
10:31:37 OF THE RECORD?
10:31:39 >> I WILL BE HAPPY TO.
10:31:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM ASKING WHAT YOUR INTENTION.
10:31:44 >> IF THEY CAN BE VIEWED PRIOR TO THE DECISION AND BE
10:31:47 PART OF THE DECISION, YES, I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT
10:31:48 BEHIND.
10:31:49 IF NOT, NO.
10:31:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, WE HAVE VIEWED THEM ON THE
10:31:54 TELEVISION SCREEN.
10:31:56 I WOULD RECOMMEND LEAVING THEM AS PART OF THE RECORD.
10:31:57 >> I WILL DO.
10:32:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAND THOSE TO THE STAFF PERSON
10:32:01 WHO IS THERE?
10:32:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
10:32:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:32:11 >> THANK YOU.
10:32:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING.
10:32:14 STATE YOUR NAME FOR US PLEASE.
10:32:17 >> YES, MY NAME IS VIVIAN --
10:32:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I NEED FOR YOU TO BE SWORN IN.
10:32:22 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU
10:32:25 ARE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
10:32:26 TRUTH?
10:32:27 >> YES.
10:32:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU CAN BEGIN.
10:32:32 >> MY NAME IS VIVIAN BANKS WHITE.
10:32:37 I LIVE AT 109 WEST ALFRED STREET.
10:32:43 I HAVE MY PROPERTY ACTUALLY EXTENDS OUT OVER TEN FEET.
10:32:56 AND RUNS BEHIND WHERE THE -- WHERE THEY ARE WANTING TO
10:32:59 BUILD THERE, OKAY.
10:33:09 SO I DID SPEAK I WAS SHOCKED ACTUALLY -- I LEFT A
10:33:10 LETTER.
10:33:12 I WAS TOLD YOU FOLKS WOULD GET IT.
10:33:17 PUT IN YOUR QUASI BOX OPPOSING THIS.
10:33:24 SO YOU CAN IMAGINE MY SHOCK WHENEVER I SEEN WHEN I DID
10:33:27 VIEW THIS LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING THIS
10:33:31 PROPERTY, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT I OPPOSED THIS.
10:33:35 AND WHENEVER JOE CAME AND SPOKE WITH ME, HE KNEW I WAS
10:33:42 OPPOSED AND HE STOOD UP THERE SAYING SHE IS ALL FOR
10:33:42 THIS.
10:33:44 NO, OKAY.
10:33:46 SO I'M HERE TODAY TO STATE THAT.
10:33:53 MY ISSUE IS AGAIN IS THE GETTING AMBULANCES IN AND OUT,
10:33:54 THE TRAFFIC.
10:33:57 I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR -- FOR 20 YEARS.
10:34:03 AND HAVE WORKED, OKAY TO AGAIN THE DRUGS AND THINGS
10:34:10 AND ALL OF THAT WORKING WITH PD TO GET ALL OF THIS
10:34:11 REMOVED, OKAY.
10:34:12 THE HOUSE REMOVED.
10:34:15 ANYWAY, I'M HERE TO OPPOSE IT.
10:34:15 OKAY.
10:34:17 IT IS OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
10:34:19 I HAVE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS.
10:34:22 I WANT TO RETIRE -- I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE MY HOME.
10:34:25 I WANT MY PRIVACY, OKAY.
10:34:28 WE ALL WANT TO COME HOME AT THE END OF THE DAY AND
10:34:31 ENJOY OUR YARDS, OUR NEIGHBORS.
10:34:35 BUT THE THING IS, IF THIS GOES -- I AM LEAVING.
10:34:36 I AM LEAVING.
10:34:40 I HAVE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS AND I HAVE FOUGHT FOR MY
10:34:42 NEIGHBORHOOD, OKAY.
10:34:43 I HAVE FOUGHT IT.
10:34:46 I HAVE FOUGHT TO MAKE IT A BETTER NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:34:47 AND IT IS.
10:34:51 AND WE ARE STILL LEARNING AND GROWING AND IMPROVING.
10:34:55 SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I AM SURE YOU
10:34:58 HAVE A COPY OF THE LETTER, BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THAT IT
10:34:59 WAS -- THAT YOU HAD IT.
10:35:04 SO, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, I WAS SHOCKED WHENEVER I HEARD
10:35:08 HIM SAY WHAT HE SAID THAT I WAS -- OH, YEAH, I WAS ALL
10:35:09 FOR IT.
10:35:10 THAT IS NOT TRUE.
10:35:13 AND THEN HE ALSO APOLOGIZED FOR HACKING DOWN -- HACKING
10:35:18 UP MY TREES ON MY PROPERTY, OKAY.
10:35:20 ALL RIGHT, HE SAID THE CITY HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH
10:35:20 THAT.
10:35:22 YOU KNOW.
10:35:25 AND I -- I ACCEPT HIS APOLOGY.
10:35:28 AND I JUST WANT TO SEE A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE HERE.
10:35:29 OKAY.
10:35:33 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORTS AND
10:35:34 YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
10:35:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:35:36 THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.
10:35:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE A QUESTION.
10:35:38 MA'AM.
10:35:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:35:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OUR ATTORNEYS ALWAYS TELL US THAT,
10:35:45 OF COURSE, EVERYBODY CAN COME DOWN HERE AND TALK TO US.
10:35:49 BUT OUR ATTORNEYS TELL US THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO
10:35:55 TESTIFY AND PROVIDE US EVIDENCE WITH SPECIFICS ON -- ON
10:35:56 WHAT YOU OBJECT TO IT.
10:36:00 AND I HEARD YOU RUN THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS, BUT
10:36:01 BASICALLY SAID YOU DON'T WANT IT.
10:36:03 YOU DON'T LIKE IT.
10:36:12 BUT I THINK IF YOU COULD HONE IN ON WHATEVER ONE, TWO,
10:36:14 THREE THINGS CRITICAL FOR YOU AND I WANTED
10:36:15 CLARIFICATION.
10:36:17 YOU SAID ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, BUT DIDN'T YOU SAY YOUR
10:36:19 PROPERTY IS TO THE REAR OF THIS?
10:36:20 >> RIGHT.
10:36:24 AND THERE IS ALSO AN ALLEYWAY THAT RUNS THROUGH IN
10:36:26 BETWEEN THE HOUSES, OKAY.
10:36:30 AND SO WE HAVE THE CONSTRAINT TRAFFIC.
10:36:35 BECAUSE PEOPLE ALREADY USE IT -- CONSTANT TRAFFIC.
10:36:38 PEOPLE ALREADY USE IT AND PEOPLE COME THROUGH THERE.
10:36:41 WE ARE TRYING TO GET AMBULANCES -- A LITTLE OVER MONTH
10:36:44 AND A HALF -- MONTH AND A HALF, MONTH AGO ON TWO
10:36:45 OCCASIONS.
10:36:49 AMBULANCES WERE CALLED, AND SO WITH PEOPLE PARKING ON
10:36:53 THE STREET, EVEN THOUGH ON MY STREET IT SAYS "NO
10:36:56 PARKING" PEOPLE PARK, OKAY.
10:37:00 YOU DON'T PARK ON -- ON -- THE STREETS ARE SO NARROW
10:37:04 YOU CAN'T GET ANY VEHICLES THROUGH IF YOU PARK ON BOTH
10:37:05 SIDES OF THE STREET.
10:37:06 OKAY.
10:37:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT OTHER ISSUE?
10:37:10 WHAT OTHER ISSUE, I AM SORRY.
10:37:14 >> OKAY, THE PRIVACY, OKAY.
10:37:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH REGARD TO THE ROOFTOP?
10:37:21 >> IN REGARD TO THE ROOFTOP, OKAY AND JUST -- AND JUST
10:37:28 THE MULTI-- AGAIN, BEING -- BEING MULTIFAMILY, OKAY.
10:37:34 YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S -- IT'S WHERE THEY -- PEOPLE --
10:37:38 YOU KNOW -- IF YOU BUILD SOMETHING THERE, IT'S -- YOU
10:37:40 ARE GOING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.
10:37:44 AND ANYBODY CAN PARK ON ADDERLY, OKAY.
10:37:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:37:46 APPRECIATE IT.
10:37:48 THANKS FOR COMING DOWN.
10:37:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM ON
10:37:56 THE SECOND FLOOR?
10:37:58 ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
10:38:03 >>CLERK: THE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER IS IN PERSON.
10:38:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET'S GO BACK TO REBUTTAL FROM THE
10:38:09 APPLICANT.
10:38:11 >> THANK YOU.
10:38:16 SO FIRST OF ALL, WE WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY COUPLE OF
10:38:20 THINGS ON THE -- FROM THE SITE PLAN PERSPECTIVE.
10:38:26 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT EVERY
10:38:34 TOWN HOME IS GOING TO PROVIDE TWO-CAR GARAGE AND THE
10:38:36 PROPERTY WILL PROVIDE A VISITOR PARKING SPACE.
10:38:38 WE ARE MEETING THE CODE.
10:38:44 SO THE STATEMENT THAT INDICATES THAT WE ARE GOING
10:38:47 PROMOTE PARKING ON THE STREET IS INCORRECT.
10:38:52 AND JOE, DO YOU WANT TO ALSO CLARIFY YOUR INTERACTION
10:38:59 WITH THE LADY AND ALSO WITH THE SITUATION WITH THE --
10:39:00 WITH THE ALLEYWAY, PLEASE.
10:39:03 >> YES, IF I MAY.
10:39:07 I DID SPEAK WITH THE NEIGHBOR VIVIAN WHITE PROBABLY
10:39:09 ABOUT 30 DAYS AGO.
10:39:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOLD ON A SECOND.
10:39:13 MR. SHELBY.
10:39:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE SPEAKER, IF EX-IDENTIFY HIMSELF
10:39:17 BY NAME.
10:39:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOUR NAME, SIR.
10:39:23 >> JOSEPH BONADONO WITH BRICK AND MORTAR CONSTRUCTION.
10:39:26 I AM OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND THE APPLICANT.
10:39:33 IT DOES SAY BROJILO'S NAME BUT THAT IS A LITTLE GLITCH
10:39:33 IN THE SYSTEM.
10:39:37 I DID SPEAK WITH MISS VIVIAN WHITE WHO JUST SPOKE.
10:39:40 AND I AM SURE YOU CAN CHECK THE RECORD FROM THE FIRST
10:39:40 HEARING.
10:39:44 I MADE NO REFERENCE TO HER SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THE
10:39:44 PROJECT.
10:39:46 I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT HAS COME FROM.
10:39:48 I DID SPEAK WITH HER IN PERSON.
10:39:51 I STOPPED BY HER HOUSE JUST TO REACH OUT.
10:39:58 AND LET HER KNOW THAT THE 9.46-STRIP OF LAND WOULD NOT
10:40:01 BE ENCROACHED ON AND WE WOULD BE RESPECTFUL NEIGHBORS.
10:40:06 SHE JUST SEEMED OPPOSE TO THE DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL.
10:40:10 AND DIDN'T REALLY SEEM LIKE SHE WANTED TO TALK VERY
10:40:11 MUCH TO ME.
10:40:15 BUT I ALSO SPOKE WITH MR. NICK CLARK ON NUMEROUS
10:40:20 OCCASIONS VIA E-MAIL REGARDING OUR PROPOSAL.
10:40:24 AND I HAD HIS SUPPORT UP UNTIL JUST LAST WEEK WHEN MR.
10:40:30 DELANO VOICED HIS CONCERNS, WHO WAS THE OTHER
10:40:31 REGISTERED SPEAKER.
10:40:35 WHEN MR. DELANO VOICED HIS CONCERNS, I BELIEVE HE
10:40:39 DISCUSSED IT WITH MR. CLARK, AND BROUGHT MR. CLARK INTO
10:40:42 OPPOSITION AFTER I HAD HIS SUPPORT.
10:40:43 WHICH IS FINE.
10:40:46 I UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR
10:40:46 OPINION.
10:40:50 AND I BELIEVE FROM THE ROOFTOP PRIVACY CONCERNS.
10:40:54 IF YOU DO LOOK AT THE PLANS, THE ROOFTOP TERRACE IS
10:40:57 MEANT TO BE A SITTING AREA THAT IS CONTAINED IN THE
10:41:00 MIDDLE OF ROOFTOP TERRACES.
10:41:05 NOT INTENDED TO CONGREGATE ALONG THE WALLS TO BE
10:41:08 PEERING IN OTHER PEOPLE'S YARDS, BUT WE WILL BE WILLING
10:41:13 TO ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, A BARRIER OR BLOCKADE ON THE
10:41:17 EAST AND WEST SIDE AS A BARRIER TO NOT PEER INTO MR.
10:41:21 CLARK'S YARD AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE WOULD BE WILLING
10:41:25 TO -- TO ALSO CREATE A BARRIER INSIDE THE SOUTH SIDE
10:41:29 WALL TO AVOID PEOPLE PEERING IN -- INTO THEIR YARDS
10:41:32 WHERE WE COULD MAKE IT -- WHERE THEY COULDN'T
10:41:34 CONGREGATE ALONG THE EDGE OF THE WALL AND ONLY BE ABLE
10:41:38 TO SEE DOWNTOWN AND FURTHER OUT.
10:41:41 WE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT TO ACCOMMODATE THE
10:41:43 NEIGHBORS' CONCERNS OF PRIVACY.
10:41:44 I RESPECT THEIR PRIVACY.
10:41:47 AND, YOU KNOW, I AM WILLING TO OFFER THAT AS AN OPTION
10:41:50 IF NEED BE.
10:41:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT?
10:41:54 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:41:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
10:41:58 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:42:03 THE -- YEAH, THE -- YOU KNOW, I -- I CAN SEE A LITTLE
10:42:06 BIT WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM, IF THEY HAVE CONCERNS
10:42:09 ABOUT PRIVACY AND LOOKING INTO THEIR BACKYARDS AND THAT
10:42:10 SORT OF THING.
10:42:14 AND ESPECIALLY EXACERBATED, PERHAPS, BY THE ROOFTOP
10:42:15 ISSUE.
10:42:18 I THINK OUR RULES ARE SUCH THAT IF YOU -- IF YOU WERE
10:42:24 GOING TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES, AND I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD
10:42:24 CHANGES.
10:42:27 IF YOU WILL MAKE THOSE CHANGES WE PROBABLY NEED TO GO
10:42:32 BACK -- MR. HUSSEIN CAN ELABORATE FURTHER, BUT WE
10:42:34 PROBABLY NEED TO GO BACK.
10:42:36 HAVE YOU MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND COME BACK FOR A -- FOR
10:42:41 A FUTURE SECOND READING.
10:42:42 MR. SHELBY.
10:42:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU HAD MENTIONED
10:42:46 THAT YOU WANTED TO INQUIRE OF STAFF GENERALLY WITH
10:42:48 REGARD TO THE ROOFTOP.
10:42:52 I ASK THAT DO YOU THAT AND TALK WITH MR. HUSSEIN BEFORE
10:42:55 CLOSING COMMENTS AND REBUTTAL BY THE PETITIONER.
10:42:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO I THINK THE APPLICANT ADDRESSED
10:43:03 MY ISSUE ABOUT THE ROOFTOP.
10:43:04 I THINK THAT IS GOOD.
10:43:06 A GOOD CHANGE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS.
10:43:10 WELL, THEY PROBABLY DON'T WANT ANY ROOFTOP, BUT AS LONG
10:43:14 AS WE CAN PULL THE ROOFTOP OVERLOOKS SO THEY LOOK LONG
10:43:18 DISTANCE AND DON'T LOOK STRAIGHT DOWN, I THINK THAT IS
10:43:20 A GOOD IMPROVEMENT AND I WILL BE WILLING TO CONTINUE TO
10:43:22 SUPPORT THE APPLICATION WITH THOSE CHANGES.
10:43:27 BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO -- ZAIN, WE WOULD NEED TO COME
10:43:34 BACK FOR SECOND SECOND READING, CORRECT?
10:43:41 >> CORRECT, SIR, SECOND READING.
10:43:42 SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT SIR?
10:43:45 I DIDN'T HEAR THAT CLEARLY.
10:43:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THE ROOFTOP ISSUE.
10:43:52 DID YOU HEAR MR. DINGFELDER AND THE APPLICANT'S
10:43:55 CONCERN, MR. HUSSEIN?
10:43:58 >> YES, SIR ON THE SITE PLAN PROPOSED AT 40 FEET.
10:44:03 THIS WAS THE SAME SITE PLAN, SAME ELEVATION AS PER THE
10:44:05 FIRST SITE PLAN PROVIDED.
10:44:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I STAND CORRECTED.
10:44:09 40 FEET.
10:44:11 NOT 35 FEET.
10:44:14 >> I HAVE A REMARK THAT, IF I MAY.
10:44:17 THE ONLY PART OF THE ELEVATION AT 40 FEET IS THE TOP OF
10:44:21 THE STAIRS THAT ACCESS THE ROOFTOP TERRACE.
10:44:23 THE HEIGHT OF THE WALLS THERE, I BELIEVE, IS RIGHT
10:44:24 AROUND 30 FEET.
10:44:29 THE ONLY JUT OUT IS CURRENTLY THE STAIRCASE -- THE
10:44:33 STAIRWELL, THE ROOFTOP OF THE STAIRWELL 40 FEET WHICH
10:44:37 IS VERY SMALL FEATURE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOF DECK,
10:44:38 JUST TO CLARIFY.
10:44:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.
10:44:43 IF THE GENTLEMAN IS AMENDABLE TO THOSE CHANGES, I WILL
10:44:47 MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS FOR -- FOR HOWEVER MANY
10:44:50 WEEKS, MAYBE ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKS TO BRING IT BACK FOR
10:44:52 SECOND READING WITH THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN
10:44:53 DISCUSSED.
10:44:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I INQUIRE --
10:44:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:45:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS WELLS, IS IT INAPPROPRIATE FOR
10:45:05 CONTINUATION OF A SECOND READ.
10:45:10 DOES IT HAVE TO GO BACK -- LOGISTICALLY HOW DOES THIS
10:45:18 COME BACK -- A CHANGE FROM THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN?
10:45:20 >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS FOR THE RECORDS.
10:45:22 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:45:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU.
10:45:27 >> YES, WILL WOULD HAVE TO BE CONTINUED.
10:45:31 SECOND READ ALSO HAVE TO CONTINUED TO ALLOW STAFF
10:45:35 SUFFICIENT TIME TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO HAVE THE
10:45:37 REVISED CONDITIONS IN THE SITED PLAN.
10:45:39 ASK FOR CLARITY OF THE RECORD AND THE STAFF
10:45:42 UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONDITIONS TO BE ADDED TO THE SITE
10:45:43 PLAN.
10:45:46 >> EXCUSE ME, I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY --
10:45:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOLD ON A SECOND, SIR.
10:45:51 MR. DINGFELDER?
10:45:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS, CATE WAS ASKING IF ZAIN
10:45:58 UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE CHANGES ARE.
10:45:59 >> CORRECT.
10:46:01 AND THANK YOU, SIR.
10:46:04 CORRECT, WE CAN HAVE THEM PUT CONDITIONS ON THE SITE
10:46:08 PLAN TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CHANGES.
10:46:12 >>CATE WELLS: I AM CONCERNED -- THERE HAVE BEEN
10:46:14 DISCUSSION OF CONDITIONS.
10:46:17 BUT IF THEY CAN BE REPEATED OF THE CONDITIONS TO BE
10:46:19 ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN WITH RESPECT TO THE USE OF THE
10:46:21 ROOFTOP TERRACE.
10:46:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER.
10:46:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO RESTATE
10:46:29 THE SORT OF SHRINKING OF THE ROOFTOP WITH MORE
10:46:30 SPECIFICITY.
10:46:33 GO AHEAD.
10:46:34 >> BEFORE --
10:46:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONE AT A TIME.
10:46:39 GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL APPLICANT OF THE BRICK AND
10:46:43 MORTAR AND THEN GO TO YOU, SIR.
10:46:46 >> OKAY JUST TO REITERATE WHAT I WAS SAYING TO ADDRESS
10:46:50 THE NEIGHBORS' PRIVACY CONCERNS, ON THE EAST AND WEST
10:46:57 SIDE THE ROOFTOP TERRACES, WE COULD RAISE THE WALLS SO
10:46:59 THEY WOULD BE HIGHER AND OBSTRUCT YOUR VIEW FROM THE
10:47:00 EAST AND WEST.
10:47:04 AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHICH IS FACING DOWNTOWN, WE
10:47:09 COULD CREATE AN INTERIOR BARRIER OR GATE WHICH WILL
10:47:14 PROHIBIT PEOPLE FROM CONGREGATING ALONG THE SOUTH WALL
10:47:16 TO BE ABLE TO VIEW INTO THE NEIGHBOR ACE YARDS.
10:47:21 AND WE WILL ALSO POINT OUT WHERE THE ROOFTOP TERRACE IS
10:47:27 WHICH WILL BE IN AN AREA WHERE WE WON'T BE -- YOU KNOW,
10:47:32 OBSTRUCTING ANYONE'S PRIVACY.
10:47:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:47:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:39 I NEED SOME CLARITY.
10:47:43 AGREEING WITH MR. DINGFELDER WITHOUT SAYING ANYTHING.
10:47:46 IF I GET THIS RIGHT, WE WILL LEAVE THE BUILDING AT --
10:47:48 THE WALLS ARE GOING TO BE OVER 35 FEET.
10:47:52 TO ME, THAT IS ALREADY AN INFRINGEMENT ON WHAT THE
10:47:55 INTENT OF THE ZONING LAWS REGULATE AT 35 FEET.
10:47:58 SECONDLY, WHEN YOU MOVE SOMETHING THAT NOW YOU ARE
10:48:00 SAYING YOU ARE GOING TO SHRINK WHATEVER IT WAS TO
10:48:03 WHATEVER IT IS, IT IS LIKE PUTTING A POUND OF SOMETHING
10:48:05 INTO A POUND BAG.
10:48:08 NOW PUT A POUND AND A HALF INTO A POUND BAG, BECAUSE
10:48:11 NOW YOU ARE GOING TO GOING TO SAY SHRINK IT TO THE
10:48:13 CENTER OF THE BUILDING.
10:48:17 TO ME A MENTAL VIOLATION OF THE RULES.
10:48:19 SOME OTHER PETITIONER -- AND I AM NOT SPEAKING TO YOU
10:48:23 DIRECTLY, SIR -- CAN COME IN AND SAY DECEMBER 30,
10:48:28 2021, YOU DID THIS AND YOU I PROVED IT.
10:48:31 AND SIZE OF A FOOTBALL FIELD AND 50 YARDS IN THE
10:48:32 CENTER.
10:48:36 AND IT IS GOING TO GET USED AGAINST WHAT THE PRINCIPLES
10:48:38 OF THE IDEAS ARE OF ZONING.
10:48:40 THAT IS WHY I AM OBJECTING TO IT NOW.
10:48:43 I WASN'T BEFORE, BUT WHEN YOU SCALE DOWN AND YOU STILL
10:48:48 WANT TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATION OR PARTNERS --
10:48:51 JUST IN A SMALLER AREA SNAP WHAT I AM HEARING?
10:48:52 MR. PETITIONER?
10:48:56 IS THAT WHAT I AM HEARING?
10:48:57 >> UM --
10:48:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES OR NO.
10:49:01 I DON'T WANT AN "UM."
10:49:04 YES OR NO, A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION.
10:49:05 >> YES.
10:49:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:49:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, WHAT IS YOUR
10:49:15 INTENTION WITH THE PETITIONER TO BRING THIS IN FOR A
10:49:15 LANDING.
10:49:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WHAT I HEARD THE RESIDENT'S
10:49:22 MAIN CONCERN ON THE PRIVACY ISSUE WAS PEOPLE LOOKING
10:49:26 OVER OFF THE ROOF TOP GARDEN INTO THEIR BACKYARDS.
10:49:30 AND I BELIEVE -- AND WE AREN'T -- IT IS NOT A FINAL
10:49:31 VOTE TODAY.
10:49:35 THE FINAL VOTE WILL BE FROM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AFTER WE
10:49:38 LOOK AT HIS REVISED SITE PLAN, BUT THE PETITIONER IS
10:49:42 DISCUSSING A WAY TO IS THAT RINK DOWN THE -- THE ROOF
10:49:48 TOP AREA AND RAISE THE WALLS SLIGHTLY TO ACCOMMODATE
10:49:52 THOSE PRIVACY CONCERNS.
10:49:54 BETWEEN THOSE TWO ADJUSTMENTS, I THINK IT IS SOMETHING
10:49:59 THAT WE COULD LOOK AT MERELY VOTING FOR MY MOTION TODAY
10:50:02 DOES NOT APPROVE THE REZONING, IT MERELY GIVES THIS
10:50:06 GENTLEMAN AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT THAT ROOFTOP GARDEN
10:50:09 TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE NEIGHBORS AND WE CAN VOTE ON IT
10:50:12 SEVERAL WEEKS FROM NOW.
10:50:16 SO THAT IS -- MY MOTION IS TO WHY THAT HE MAKE THOSE
10:50:20 ADJUSTMENTS AND WE BRING IT BACK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS
10:50:24 WHEN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHEN THE APPROPRIATE DATE WILL
10:50:24 BE.
10:50:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:50:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM JUST GOING TO SAY THIS.
10:50:34 I UNDERSTAND OR I THINK I DO WHAT THE INTENT IS, AND I
10:50:37 AM NOT OPPOSED TO VOTING FOR THIS TO CONTINUE TO A
10:50:39 CERTAIN TIME PERIOD IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO WEEKS OR
10:50:44 WHATEVER; HOWEVER, IF IT COMES BACK AND MORE THAN 35
10:50:46 FEET, I AM GOING TO VOTE NO.
10:50:49 BECAUSE IN ANY BUILDING THAT I HAVE SEEN SO FAR, IF THE
10:50:51 INTENT OF THE LAW IS 35 FEET PERIOD.
10:50:55 AND BUILD A WALL -- THE WALL IS NOT GOING TO BE LOWER
10:50:57 THAN THE ROOFTOP AND WILL BE HIGHER.
10:51:00 RIGHT THERE A VIOLATION OF LAW.
10:51:03 IF YOU SHRINK IT DOWN, THE INTENT OF THE LAW IS FOR
10:51:06 PRIVACY AND TOO HAVE A SCOPE WITHIN THE BUILDING NOT
10:51:10 WITHIN THE ROOFTOP AND YOU MIGHT -- MIGHT -- NOTICE
10:51:11 WHAT I AM SAYING.
10:51:14 MIGHT BRING IN INDIVIDUALS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT
10:51:17 HAVE BEEN FOR THE OWN PROJECT.
10:51:17 YOU ARE THE PETITIONER.
10:51:21 I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO OR WHAT NOT TO DO.
10:51:23 THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING.
10:51:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I PROBABLY LED
10:51:27 COUNCIL DOWN THAT IMPROPER PATH.
10:51:27 ZAIN.
10:51:31 WHAT IS ALLOWABLE HEIGHT FOR THIS DOCTOR YOU KNOW, FOR
10:51:33 THIS PROPOSED PD.
10:51:34 I SAID 35.
10:51:38 BUT OBVIOUSLY I MISSPOKE, BECAUSE THE STAIRCASES ARE AT
10:51:39 A HIGHER HEIGHT.
10:51:46 SO I APOLOGIZE TO FOR LEADING US DOWN -- ASTRAY.
10:51:46 >> CORRECT.
10:51:47 YES, SIR.
10:51:51 AS FOR RS-50 ZONING, 35 FEET IS THE MAX.
10:51:53 AS FOR THE PD, THEY CAN GO 40 FEET.
10:51:57 IF IT IS THE DECISION OF CITY COUNCIL THAT WE WANT TO
10:52:01 PUSH THIS TO ANOTHER SECOND HEARING, THE APPLICANT
10:52:05 WILL NEED TO PROVIDE ELEVATION AND NEW SITE PLAN WEEK
10:52:09 PRIOR TO STAFF SO WE CAN REVIEW IF ANY CHANGES IF ALL
10:52:13 CHANGES HAVE MADE DUE TO THE EAST AND WEST ROOFTOP AND
10:52:16 ALSO TO THE SOUTH SIDE ROOFTOP.
10:52:20 SO STAFF WILL REVIEW THAT A WEEK PRIOR.
10:52:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT DATE WOULD YOU SAY IS
10:52:24 COMFORTABLE FOR EVERYBODY?
10:52:26 >>CLERK: THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE.
10:52:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOVEMBER 4, COUNCIL.
10:52:34 THAT IS A DAY MEETING NOVEMBER 4.
10:52:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THE PETITIONER AMENABLE FOR
10:52:41 THOSE REVISIONS AND FOR POSSIBLE APPROVAL ON NOVEMBER
10:52:42 4?
10:52:42 SECOND READING.
10:52:44 >> YES, MA'AM, I AM.
10:52:47 THAT GIVES US PLENTY OF TIME TO GET THE DRAWINGS
10:52:49 SUBMITTED MORE THAN A WEEK IN ADVANCE.
10:52:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME SAY TO MR. DINGFELDER.
10:52:55 I AM LOOKING AT FACES OF COUNCILMEMBERS AND WITH -- NOW
10:52:56 WITH KNEES NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
10:53:00 I HAD TO VOTE TODAY ON THIS PROJECT, IT WOULD BE A
10:53:07 DOWNERY AND EVEN WITH THE POSSIBLE CORRECTIONS --
10:53:09 POSSIBLE CORRECTIONS INDUSTRIAL TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE
10:53:14 RIGMAROLE TO SEE THIS DONE STILL MAY BE A DOWNER.
10:53:18 I WANT TO CAUTION YOU EVEN WITH SOME OF THESE CHANGES
10:53:24 MR. DINGFELDER IS TALKING ABOUT, IT MAY GO THROUGH MR.
10:53:28 HUSSEIN'S OFFICE.
10:53:30 MR. MIRANDA HAS A POINT.
10:53:33 IF STILL GOING UP, STILL MAY BE A VIOLATION.
10:53:36 I WANT TO PUT A CAUTION AND YOUR DECISION WHAT YOU WANT
10:53:43 TO DO IF MR. DINGFELDER PUTS A VOTE FOR CONTINUANCE, I
10:53:44 WILL GO WITH THE CONTINUANCE.
10:53:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:53:48 LET ME THROWN THIS OUT AND I THOUGHT OF THIS INITIALLY.
10:53:52 THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS TO RECOMMEND THAT THE
10:53:56 APPLICANT STRIKE THE ROOFTOP AMENITY COMPLETELY.
10:53:59 IF YOU STRIKE THE ROOFTOP AMENITY COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW,
10:54:00 I THINK IT IS KIND OF NICE.
10:54:12 I HAVE SEEN SOME TOWNHOMES HAVE THE ROOFTOP GARDENS IN
10:54:15 PLACE WHERE IS IT IS NOT INTRUSIVE OF THE NEIGHBORS.
10:54:17 ONE OFF THE EXPRESSWAY IN WEST TAMPA AND THEY ARE
10:54:18 PRETTY NICE.
10:54:21 I CAN SEE IF YOU LIVE IN A TOWN HOME AND ENJOY THE NICE
10:54:25 WEATHER OF OCTOBER THAT WE ARE HAVING, SEPTEMBER,
10:54:28 OCTOBER, THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO GO OUT ON THE ROOF
10:54:32 TOP, BUT IF IT IS REALLY INTRUSIVE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
10:54:36 IF IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, WE CAN RECOMMEND TO STRIKE
10:54:39 THE ROOFTOP PERIOD AND THAT WILL ADDRESS THE HEIGHT
10:54:42 ISSUE BECAUSE HE DOESN'T NEED A STAIRWELL TO THE TOP
10:54:47 AND WOULD ADDRESS THE -- THE HIGHER SIDE WALLS AND --
10:54:50 AND THE WHOLE -- THAT WHOLE -- THAT WHOLE LINE OF
10:54:50 DISCUSSION.
10:54:52 SO I AM FLEXIBLE.
10:54:54 I WAS -- I AM A MEDIATOR.
10:54:56 I TRY WORK THESE THINGS OUT.
10:54:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GET IT.
10:55:00 FROM WHAT I AM HEARING AND WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE PEOPLE
10:55:02 DO THINGS THEY MAY NOT WANT TO DO.
10:55:04 MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IF YOU CONTINUE IT THAT THE
10:55:08 APPLICANT DECIDE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO WITH THEIR
10:55:08 DESIGN.
10:55:11 IF THEY CHANGE.
10:55:13 WHATEVER YOU ARE GOING TO DO AND BRING IT BACK WHATEVER
10:55:18 THEY DECIDE TO DO RATHER THAN SAY MANDATE AND STILL MAY
10:55:19 NOT BE RIGHT WHEN IT COMES BACK US TO.
10:55:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:55:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:55:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND MISS WELLS CAN ADD TO THIS.
10:55:28 HAS TO BE PURSUANT TO COUNCIL'S DIRECTION OTHERWISE IT
10:55:32 WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO FIRST READING BECAUSE COULD BE
10:55:34 SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO THE NEW SITE PLAN.
10:55:39 I GUESS THE QUESTION ULTIMATELY SOMEBODY YOU HEARD
10:55:40 TESTIMONY.
10:55:43 I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC PEOPLE -- ANY OTHER
10:55:45 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK.
10:55:50 SO COUNCIL, IT IS ULTIMATELY UP TO THE PETITIONER TO
10:55:52 MAKE THE CASE FOR REBUTTAL IF HE HAS REQUEST FROM
10:55:56 COUNCIL TO DO SO, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THE REQUEST FOR A
10:55:59 CONTINUANCE IS STILL COUNCIL'S TAMPA WANTS AND WHATEVER
10:56:02 DECISION IT MAKES NEEDS TO BE BASED ON THE RECORD.
10:56:05 SO ULTIMATELY IT -- IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE
10:56:08 PETITIONER, MR. DINGFELDER, RELATIVE TO THE SUGGESTION,
10:56:14 NOW WOULD BE THE TIME BEFORE YOU ASK.
10:56:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE
10:56:20 PETITIONER WITH REGARD TO -- I GUESS THREE OPTIONS ON
10:56:20 THE FLOOR.
10:56:23 THE FIRST OPTION WE CAN VOTE ON TO THE WAY IT IS IN
10:56:24 FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW.
10:56:28 THE SECOND OPTION IS, WE CAN TWEAK THE ROOFTOP AREAS.
10:56:33 AND THE THIRD OPTION IS, WE CAN ELIMINATE THE ROOFTOP
10:56:33 AREAS.
10:56:37 OPTION B AND OPTION C WOULD REQUIRE OF BRINGING IT BACK
10:56:38 FOR SECOND READING.
10:56:41 YES, SIR.
10:56:42 >> YES.
10:56:45 ONE ONLY -- I AM WILLING TO STRIKE THE ROOFTOPS IN
10:56:46 ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD.
10:56:51 ONLY ONE ISSUE THAT REMAINS IF WE DO THAT IS THE
10:56:54 STAIRWELLS WOULD HAVE TO REMAIN DUE TO THE AIR
10:56:58 CONDITIONING PLACEMENT ON THE ROOF TECH TERRACE.
10:57:01 I WOULD BE WILLING TO STRIKE THE ROOF DECK AS LONG AS
10:57:04 WE CAN LEAVE THE STAIRS TO ACCESS THE AC AND NOT HAVE
10:57:09 TO RELOCATE THOSE AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, OTHERWISE, I
10:57:12 WOULD REQUEST A CONTINUANCE FOR A SECOND HEARING.
10:57:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
10:57:15 OKAY.
10:57:18 SO I WILL MODIFY MY MOTION AND STRIKE MY EARLIER
10:57:19 MOTION.
10:57:22 THE NEW MOTION THAT THE GENTLEMAN STRIKE THE HABITABLE
10:57:27 AREAS ON THE ROOF COMPLETELY AND BRING BACK THOSE
10:57:30 DRAWINGS BACK TO US ON NOVEMBER 4 FOR SECOND READING.
10:57:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:57:34 ALL IN FAVOR.
10:57:38 ANY OPPOSED, MOTION CARRIES.
10:57:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
10:57:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DURING THE DAY MEETING SO 9:30 A.M.
10:57:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
10:57:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
10:57:48 I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
10:57:52 STAFF CLEAR WITH THE DIRECTION, MR. HUSSEIN?
10:57:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ZAIN, YOU GOT THAT?
10:57:55 >> YES, SIR, I HAVE THAT.
10:57:56 THANK YOU.
10:57:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
10:58:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:58:04 >> ITEM NUMBER 92.
10:58:08 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT
10:58:09 COORDINATION.
10:58:12 CASE REZ-21-66.
10:58:14 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:58:20 LOCATION 3002 NORTH WOODROW AVENUE OF REZONE FROM RS-50
10:58:24 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
10:58:25 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
10:58:29 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AT CITY CLERK YESTERDAY AND
10:58:31 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
10:58:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
10:58:35 ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
10:58:36 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT.
10:58:37 >> YES, WE DO.
10:58:38 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:58:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE YOU SWORN IN.
10:58:42 >> I NEED TO BE SWORN, PLEASE.
10:58:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CLERK.
10:58:46 >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
10:58:49 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT
10:58:51 TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
10:58:52 >> I DO.
10:58:54 FRED HENRY, DOMAIN HOMES.
10:58:58 WORK ADDRESS 5703 SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE, TAMPA.
10:59:00 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THIS AND I
10:59:04 APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
10:59:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: QUESTIONS FROM STAFF?
10:59:08 ANY QUESTIONS?
10:59:16 ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
10:59:18 ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
10:59:20 >>CLERK: NO ONE.
10:59:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:59:24 MOTION CARRIES.
10:59:26 MR. CITRO.
10:59:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, FILE REZ-21-66,
10:59:34 ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:59:38 ORDINANCE REZONING IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3002
10:59:41 NORTH WOODROW AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:59:44 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
10:59:48 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
10:59:51 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
10:59:54 DETACHED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:59:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
10:59:58 YES.
10:59:59 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:00:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:00:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
11:00:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:00:05 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:00:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:00:09 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO.
11:00:14 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:00:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OPEN THE 10:30.
11:00:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
11:00:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
11:00:20 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:00:22 OPPOSED.
11:00:22 ITEM NUMBER.
11:00:25 93.
11:00:28 >> DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION PRESENTING ITEM NUMBER 93,
11:00:33 FILE NUMBER VAC-21-10, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
11:00:35 FIRST READING OF CONSIDERATION.
11:00:38 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO VACATE THE NORTH AND
11:00:43 SOUTH PORTION OF ALLEYWAY GENERALLY LOCATED 702 WEST
11:00:44 INDIANA AVENUE.
11:00:53 IF THE CLERK CAN PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.
11:00:59 CAN COUNCIL SEE MY SCREEN?
11:01:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BLOW IT UP FOR US A LITTLE BIT.
11:01:04 >> SURE.
11:01:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE GOT IT, THANK YOU, SIR.
11:01:11 >> THE VACATING OF THE NORTH AND SOUTH PORTION OF THE
11:01:14 UNAPPROVED ALLEYWAY SOUTH OF INDIANA AVENUE.
11:01:16 NORTH OF OHIO AVENUE.
11:01:17 WEST OF NORTH BOULEVARD.
11:01:19 AND EAST OF MYRTLE AVENUE.
11:01:23 THIS ALLEY WAS FOR THE SUBDIVISION NORTH SIDE RIVER
11:01:30 EDITION NUMBER TWO AND LOCATED NEAR PLYMOUTH PARK.
11:01:34 THE APPLICANT OWNS THE PARCELS -- A PARCEL OF LAND, I
11:01:36 AM SORRY, ON THE EAST SIDE THE VALLEY.
11:01:39 THE APPLICANT, CONDITION FOR APPLICATION IS THE PORTION
11:01:43 OF THE ALLEY IS UNAPPROVED AND UNUSED.
11:01:45 CURRENTLY NO VIOLATION OF THIS PARCEL.
11:01:49 THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY BEING REQUESTED TO VACATE IS
11:01:53 1900 SQUARE FEET.
11:01:57 UNAPPROVED GRASS AND NOT SHOWING USE OF THE ABUTTING
11:01:58 OWNERS.
11:02:01 NO UTILITIES UTILIZE THE PORTION OF THIS ALLEY AND NO
11:02:02 EASEMENTS ARE REQUIRED.
11:02:05 THE ALLEY DOES NOT CONTINUE NORTH OF INDIANA AVENUE
11:02:08 BECAUSE IT IS NOT ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE NORTH AND
11:02:10 SOUTH ALLEY WAG VACATED IN 2017.
11:02:15 AND THE EAST AND WEST ALLEY IS -- IS THIS -- THIS BLOCK
11:02:17 IS NOT VACATED.
11:02:19 QUICK VIEW HERE.
11:02:23 THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY AND THE ALLEYWAY REQUESTED TO
11:02:25 BE VACATED IN YELLOW.
11:02:27 NORTH AND SOUTH.
11:02:33 THIS IS AT ALSO A MAPS THAT THE CITY HAS.
11:02:36 AND THIS IN GRAY IS THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.
11:02:40 AND PURPLE HERE IS NORTH AND SOUTH ALLEYWAY.
11:02:43 AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THE NORTH AND SOUTH
11:02:48 ALLEYS TO THE SOUTH OF THE CURRENT ALLEY TO BE
11:02:53 REQUESTED ARE ALSO VACATED.
11:02:57 AND THIS IS THE PLAT THAT IS CREATED THE NORTH AND
11:02:57 SOUTH ALLEY.
11:03:00 AND THIS IS THE AREA REQUESTING TO BE VACATED AND ALSO
11:03:04 WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THE EAST AND WEST ALLEY IS TO
11:03:07 STAY OPEN.
11:03:09 QUICK LOOK AT THE PROPERTY.
11:03:12 THIS IS AN ALLEYWAY LOOKING SOUTH FROM INDIANA AVENUE.
11:03:15 THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S HOME.
11:03:19 THIS IS THE EAST AND WEST ALLEY LOOKING EAST THAT IS
11:03:20 NOT TO BE VACATED.
11:03:26 AND, AGAIN, EAST OF WEST ALLEY WAY FROM NORTH BOULEVARD
11:03:27 IS NOT TO BE VACATED.
11:03:33 AND THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING SOUTH FROM INDIANA AVENUE.
11:03:37 STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS OF VACATING EFFECT BASE AND
11:03:39 RESPONSES FROM REVIEWING AGENCIES.
11:03:42 IF THE VACATING IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL NO EASEMENTS TO
11:03:44 ARE REGULATIONS ARE REQUIRED.
11:03:47 CONDITIONS FOR NATURAL RESOURCES MUST BE INCLUDED IN
11:03:48 APPROVING THE ORDINANCE.
11:03:50 AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
11:03:52 COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF IS AVAILABLE.
11:03:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF?
11:03:56 ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF?
11:04:00 WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
11:04:02 THE APPLICANT, SIR?
11:04:07 THE APPLICANT FOR THIS ITEM?
11:04:12 >> YES, I AM WILLIAM NUNAMAKER.
11:04:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
11:04:16 >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
11:04:19 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT
11:04:22 TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
11:04:23 >> YES.
11:04:25 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
11:04:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
11:04:29 AGAIN.
11:04:30 AND YOU CAN BEGIN.
11:04:33 STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN AND YOU CAN BEGIN SPEAKING, SIR.
11:04:37 >> SORRY I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
11:04:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND
11:04:42 YOU CAN BEGIN SPEAKING.
11:04:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU ARE WILLIAM NUNAMAKER.
11:04:51 >> WILLIAM NUNAMAKER, 702 WEST INDIANA AVENUE.
11:04:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYTHING TO ADD ABOVE WHAT THE
11:04:54 PRESENTATION IS FROM STAFF.
11:04:57 >> NO, I TAKEN CARE OF THAT PROPERTY SINCE I LIVED
11:04:59 THERE FOR 43 YEARS.
11:05:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
11:05:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:05:05 DID YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM YOUR NEIGHBORS WHEN
11:05:07 YOU SENT OUT THE NOTICE?
11:05:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, BEAUTIFUL, THANK YOU.
11:05:11 ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD?
11:05:15 >> NO, IT'S -- I JUST WANTED TO GET THE -- HAVE IT PART
11:05:17 OF MY PROPERTY AGAIN.
11:05:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOT IT.
11:05:18 YOU ONLY GET HALF.
11:05:24 THE OTHER HALF GOES TO YOUR ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.
11:05:25 THAT IS MY UNDER STANDING.
11:05:26 THAT IS CORRECT, ROSS?
11:05:29 >> NO, I WASN'T UNDERSTANDING THAT.
11:05:32 I WAS SUPPOSED TO GET THE WHOLE 15.
11:05:37 >> CITY -- CITY OF TAMPA -- WE TRY NOT TO GET INTO
11:05:38 OWNERSHIP.
11:05:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT WHAT I AM SAYING.
11:05:42 PUT THE MAP UP AGAIN IF YOU WOULD, ROSS.
11:05:44 I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.
11:05:46 >> IT WAS PART OF MY PROPERTY BEFORE THEY MADE IT AN
11:05:47 ALLEY.
11:05:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW.
11:05:49 LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
11:05:53 LET'S LOOK AT IT AND WE DON'T WANT YOU WALKING AWAY --
11:05:55 NOT UNDERSTANDING.
11:05:58 WE MIGHT HAVE TO GET LEGAL TO CHIME IN ON THIS TOO.
11:06:01 HOLD ON.
11:06:10 >> OKAY.
11:06:12 >> THIS IS THE CURRENT PLAN, SIR.
11:06:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GO BACK ONE.
11:06:15 GO BACK ONE.
11:06:16 OKAY.
11:06:24 SO DOES HE HAVE LOT 3 OR DOES HE HAVE THE SHADED AREA.
11:06:27 >> IN GRAY, G AND F.
11:06:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LEGAL STAFF, ISN'T THAT CORRECT IF
11:06:33 THAT ALLEY IS VACATED THAT LOT 3 GETS HALF OF IT.
11:06:40 AND THEN -- AND THEN THE -- MR. NUNAMAKER WHO OWNS THE
11:06:42 CORNER GETS THE OTHER HALF OF THE ALLEY, ISN'T THAT
11:06:44 CORRECT, LEGAL?
11:06:46 >> NO, MY NEIGHBOR --
11:06:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, NO.
11:06:52 I AM TALKING TO OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT, MR. NUNAMAKER.
11:06:56 I WILL GIVE YOU A SECONDS.
11:06:57 >> OKAY.
11:07:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, RON.
11:07:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RON, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
11:07:04 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
11:07:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU.
11:07:09 >> THANK YOU.
11:07:10 LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:07:13 YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, GENERALLY YOU ARE
11:07:17 CORRECT AND DEPENDS ON THE PLAT.
11:07:20 IF WE CAN GO TO THE PLAT PLEASE.
11:07:21 THERE YOU GO.
11:07:23 SO THIS PARTICULAR PLAT ONLY DEALS WITH THOSE
11:07:25 PROPERTIES THAT ARE LISTED THERE.
11:07:28 SO IN THIS CASE, THE ALLEYWAY IS PART OF THE NORTH
11:07:31 RIVERSIDE ADDITION NUMBER TWO PLAT SO, THEREFORE, WE
11:07:33 HAVE THE ENTIRE ALLEYWAY.
11:07:36 THERE MUST BE ANOTHER PLAT TO THE WEST OF THAT.
11:07:39 THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE OTHER PROPERTY, WHICH I THINK IS
11:07:42 LOT NUMBER 3 ON THE PRIOR.
11:07:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, BEAUTIFUL.
11:07:46 THAT IS AN UNUSUAL SITUATION, BUT I STAND CORRECTED
11:07:48 AGAIN.
11:07:52 SO -- ALL RIGHT, GOING BACK TO NUNAMAKER.
11:07:53 YOU ARE TOTALLY CORRECT.
11:07:56 YOU GET THE ENTIRE ALLEY IF THIS PETITION IS APPROVED.
11:07:58 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:08:01 >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
11:08:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NEVER SEEN THAT.
11:08:06 I GUESS HE IS RIGHT BUT I NEVER SEEN THAT IN ALL MY
11:08:06 YEARS.
11:08:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
11:08:13 ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
11:08:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOT TALKING TO YOU, SIR.
11:08:16 NOT TALKING TO YOU.
11:08:18 ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
11:08:21 >>CLERK: I HAVE NO ONE REGISTERED?
11:08:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
11:08:23 MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:08:25 MR. MIRANDA HAS INVOLVED CLOSE.
11:08:27 MR. MANISCALCO HAS SECOND.
11:08:28 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:08:29 ANY OPPOSED.
11:08:31 MOTION CARRIES.
11:08:37 WE ARE AT MR. CITRO -- NO, MR. DINGFELDER.
11:08:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH REGARD TO ITEM 93, FILE NUMBER
11:08:44 VAC-21-10.
11:08:45 I WILL MOVE THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
11:08:47 CONSIDERING.
11:08:51 ORDINANCE VACATING CLOSING DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING
11:08:55 A PORTION OF A RIGHT-OF-WAY ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF
11:08:58 INDIANA AVENUE, NORTH OF OHIO AVENUE, EAST OF MYRTLE
11:09:02 AVENUE AND WEST OF NORTH BOULEVARD WITHIN THE PLAT OF
11:09:06 NORTH RIVERSIDE AND SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:09:08 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY
11:09:12 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN
11:09:14 COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE
11:09:18 PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
11:09:19 DATE.
11:09:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:09:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DINGFELDER MOVED IT SECONDED BY MR.
11:09:23 MIRANDA.
11:09:25 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:09:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:09:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:09:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:09:33 >>BILL CARLSON.
11:09:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:09:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:09:41 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES AND CARLSON VOTING NO, AND
11:09:43 VIERA ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:09:48 SECOND READING OCTOBER 21, 9:30 A.M.
11:09:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. NUNAMAKER, THE SECOND READING
11:09:58 THAT WILL MAKE IT FINAL WILL BE OCTOBER 21ST AT 9:30 IN
11:10:01 THE MORNING.
11:10:02 OKAY?
11:10:03 >> OKAY.
11:10:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:10:09 >> ITEM NUMBER 94.
11:10:11 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL,
11:10:16 CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
11:10:18 IT IS BEFORE YOU ON A PETITION REVIEW OF A VARIANCE
11:10:27 REVIEW BOARD DECISION ON APRIL 13 OF 2021.
11:10:30 MR. SHELBY IS PASSING OUT THE HEARING PROCEDURES FOR
11:10:33 TODAY'S HEARING AS WELL AS SAMPLE MOTIONS.
11:10:38 I ALSO PROVIDED CITY COUNCIL CODE SECTION 27-80 WHICH
11:10:43 IS THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA THAT THE APPLICANT MUST
11:10:46 APPROVE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL THIS MORNING.
11:10:54 PURSUANT TO CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBSECTIONS J-2, CITY
11:10:56 COUNCIL PRO MODES A DE NOVO REVIEW.
11:11:00 YOUR DECISION IS NOT LIMITED TO THE RECORD CREATED
11:11:01 DURING THE VRB HEARING.
11:11:05 INSTEAD YOU CAN GET PUBLIC TESTIMONY, MAKE A DECISION
11:11:09 BASED ON THE APPLICATION MEETING THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA
11:11:12 IN 27-80.
11:11:16 THE MATERIALS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM INCLUDE THE
11:11:19 INITIAL APPLICATION FOR THE VARIANCE, THE STAFF REPORT,
11:11:24 THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD'S WRITTEN DECISION, THE VIEW
11:11:28 AND THE AFFIDAVIT WITH NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.
11:11:31 THE APPLICATION FILED WITH THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD
11:11:35 REQUESTED THE FOLLOWING VARIANCE: TO INCREASE THE
11:11:39 HEIGHT OF THE DETACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE FROM 15 FEET
11:11:43 TO 25 FEET PURSUANT TO SECTION 27-290.
11:11:46 AFTER CONSIDERING ALL THE EVIDENCE INTRODUCE INTO THE
11:11:50 RECORD OF TODAY'S HEARING, CITY COUNCIL MAY AFFIRM THE
11:11:53 VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD'S DECISION TO APPROVE THE
11:11:56 VARIANCE WITH OR WITHOUT CONDITION.
11:12:00 COUNCIL MAY OVERTURN THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD'S
11:12:03 DECISION AND DENY THE VARIANCE REQUEST.
11:12:05 OR COUNCIL MAY REMAND THIS CASE BACK TO THE VARIANCE
11:12:12 REVIEW BOARD FOR DIRECTION FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER
11:12:14 WITH THAT, I WILL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO
11:12:17 ANASTASIA BARNES AND I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY
11:12:18 QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE.
11:12:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:12:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. SHELBY.
11:12:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A QUICK ITEM BEFORE WE BEGIN.
11:12:26 WITH REGARD TO ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS THAT HAVE
11:12:31 BEEN MADE OR RECEIVED RELATIVE TO THIS, I WOULD ASK
11:12:33 THEY BE DISCLOSED AT THIS POINT AND ANYTHING IN
11:12:36 WRITING, I WILL ASK THEY BE RECEIVED AND FILED INTO THE
11:12:37 RECORD.
11:12:38 ANY DISCLOSURE?
11:12:42 A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE PLEASE.
11:12:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
11:12:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:12:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:12:46 OPPOSED.
11:12:47 MOTION CARRIES.
11:12:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:12:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS BARNES?
11:12:56 >> YES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, ANNIE BARNES.
11:13:00 CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
11:13:03 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, ACCOUNT
11:13:06 WITNESSES BE SWORN IN.
11:13:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SWEAR EVERYBODY AT THE SAME TIME.
11:13:12 >>CLERK: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM
11:13:15 THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE
11:13:17 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
11:13:18 >> I DO.
11:13:19 >> YES.
11:13:21 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
11:13:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS BARNES, YOU MAY CONTINUE.
11:13:25 >> GREAT, THANK YOU.
11:13:27 CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
11:13:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN SEE YOUR SCREEN.
11:13:38 APOLOGIES.
11:13:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF YOU BLOW IT UP FOR US.
11:13:42 WE WILL BE GOOD TO GO.
11:13:43 >> THERE WE GO.
11:13:44 ALL RIGHT.
11:13:48 AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER 94 IS A PETITION FILED BY RON FAIR
11:13:53 REGARDING THE DECISION OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD,
11:13:58 VRB-21-25 FOR PROPERTY 3305 WEST LYKES AVENUE.
11:14:03 THE PROPERTY OWNER IS THOMAS BUCKINGHAM AND ZONING IS R
11:14:04 S-100.
11:14:12 APPROVED VARIANCE TO INCREASE FROM 15 FEET TO 25 FEET
11:14:16 FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A TWO-STORY ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
11:14:19 AGAIN, THE BOARD -- THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD BASES
11:14:24 THEIR DECISION ON SECTION 27-80.
11:14:31 THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD HEARD CASE APRIL 14, 2021 AND
11:14:32 APPROVED THE REQUEST 6-0.
11:14:35 HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH
11:14:37 SURROUNDING ZONING.
11:14:41 AS YOU CAN SEE IT IS RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE.
11:14:45 SHOWN HERE IS THE SURVEY PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT AND
11:14:50 A SITE PLAN PROVIDED FROM THE APPLICANT SHOWING THE
11:14:52 ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
11:14:56 THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
11:14:59 THESE ARE EXTERIOR PICTURES OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL
11:15:04 SURROUNDING PROPERTY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:15:06 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
11:15:09 AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
11:15:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:15:13 ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:15:14 ALL RIGHT.
11:15:18 WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
11:15:19 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:15:22 MY NAME IS FRED MILLS.
11:15:23 I AM AN ATTORNEY.
11:15:26 SITTING TO MY RIGHT IS THE APPLICANT RON -- OR THE
11:15:27 PETITIONER RON FAIR.
11:15:31 WE ACTUALLY REQUESTING THAT OF THE REMEDIES THAT WERE
11:15:34 MENTIONED EARLIER THE DECISION OF THE BOARD BE
11:15:37 OVERTURNED.
11:15:39 THERE WAS BE A BE INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY CODE
11:15:41 ITSELF.
11:15:44 THE ACTUAL CODE READS THAT ACCESSORY STRUCTURES SHALL
11:15:49 NOT EXCEED 15 FEET IN HEIGHT, COMMA, UNLESS -- AND IT
11:15:51 GIVES TWO EXCEPTIONS THAT THE STRUCTURE IS LOCATED IN A
11:15:55 NATIONAL OR LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH NEITHER ONE
11:15:56 OF THOSE APPLY.
11:16:00 IN THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES, THE HARDSHIP WAS NOT
11:16:01 MET.
11:16:05 IT HAD A SIMPLE BOX TO CHECK AND SAY YES.
11:16:07 THE DISCUSSION WAS THAT THERE WAS A PRE-EXISTING
11:16:12 STRUCTURE THERE THAT HAD BEEN REMOVED AND THEY WERE
11:16:13 JUST BUILDING IT BACK.
11:16:16 WHICH IS, IN FACT, NOT TRUE.
11:16:18 NOTHING PRESENTED TO SHOW WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY THERE.
11:16:19 THERE IS NO HEIGHT.
11:16:24 THIS WAS LIMITED TO 15 FEET.
11:16:28 EVEN IF -- EVEN IF EITHER OF THESE EXCEPTIONS WHICH
11:16:31 WERE THE NATIONAL AND LOCAL DISTRICT APPLY, THEY WOULD
11:16:33 BE ALLOWED TO GO TO 50%.
11:16:39 SO YOU WOULD HAVE THE 15 AND ANOTHER 7.5 WHICH A
11:16:42 MAXIMUM OF 22.5 IF IT APPLIED.
11:16:44 BUT IT DIDN'T APPLY.
11:16:45 MR. FAIR WAS PRESENT.
11:16:48 HE WALKED THROUGH ALL OF THESE ITEMS.
11:16:49 AND THEY DON'T MEET.
11:16:52 IT IS CLEARLY A DETACHED STRUCTURE.
11:16:56 OTHER WAY IT CAN BE REMEDIED.
11:16:59 IT HAS A FULL -- THOUGH THE PLANS SHOW, QUOTE, UNQUOTE,
11:17:08 STORAGE FOR THE SECOND OR A BONUS ROOM FOR THE FLOOR A
11:17:09 FULL BATHROOM.
11:17:12 BASICALLY A SECOND STRUCTURE.
11:17:19 THE CODE WAS SET UP FOR MANY REASONS.
11:17:20 IF YOU HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
11:17:24 THAT THEY WILL REMAIN SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
11:17:27 THIS IS NOT ATTACHED DUE DETACHED.
11:17:28 AIR CONDITIONING THROUGHOUT.
11:17:32 WE PROPOSE NO DIFFERENCE WITH A MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURE
11:17:45 ADJACENT TO IT, FRONT, BACK.
11:17:48 ONCE THE PERMIT GOES TO 25 FEET.
11:17:51 MR. FAIR HIMSELF LIVES BEEN TWO HOUSES OF THIS
11:17:51 PROPERTY.
11:17:54 HE WENT THROUGHOUT PROCESS TO BUILD HIS GARAGE.
11:17:57 HE WAS TOLD ABSOLUTELY NO WAY COULD IT BE A ATTACHED
11:18:00 GARAGE OF THIS BY ABBYE FEELEY PRIOR TO THE
11:18:08 CONSTRUCTION AT THE HIS HOUSE WEST OAKLAND.
11:18:10 HE HAD TO REGISTER AND DO EVERYTHING ELSE WITH THE
11:18:14 PLANS TO CONSTRUCT IT AS AN ATTACHED GARAGE SO IT FEM
11:18:17 WITHIN THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING THAT IT
11:18:18 HAD.
11:18:21 IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, NONE OF THOSE HARDSHIPS WERE
11:18:22 MET.
11:18:23 NONE OF IT WAS MET.
11:18:24 IT WAS APPROVED.
11:18:28 WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING THE CODE IF, IN FACT, IT
11:18:30 IS GOING TO BE BLATANTLY DISREGARDED.
11:18:33 THE CODE IS THERE FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS.
11:18:36 NOT JUST THE ZONING, FIRE CODE, ANYTHING THAT TAKES
11:18:44 INTO ACCOUNT WHEN BUILDING ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES ON THE
11:18:44 PROPERTY.
11:18:49 WE REQUEST THAT IT BE OVERTURNED AND DENIED.
11:18:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:18:55 THESE FOLKS ARE ONES THAT FILED THE PETITION TO GET THE
11:18:57 CASE REVERSED.
11:19:05 WHO WOULD BE UP NEXT, MR. SHELBY?
11:19:06 >> GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:19:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WAS THE PRESENTATION BY THE
11:19:10 AGGRIEVED PERSON.
11:19:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXACTLY, THE AGGRIEVED PERSON.
11:19:18 HERE IS THE APPLICANT.
11:19:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAIT.
11:19:20 A CLARIFICATION.
11:19:27 I THINK -- I THINK MISS PETTIS-MACKLE NEEDS TO MAKE THE
11:19:30 CLARIFICATION SO CLEAR OF THE ORDER AND PRESENTATION.
11:19:35 MISS PETTIS-MACKLE, WILL YOU PLEASE.
11:19:37 >> POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MR. FAIR IS THE PETITIONER
11:19:39 FOR THE PETITION FOR REVIEW.
11:19:43 THE PROPERTY OWNER IS -- HE IS PRESENT.
11:19:48 AND I BELIEVE THERE GRANDOFF THERE TO REPRESENT THE
11:19:49 PROPERTY OWNER.
11:19:51 BUT THE AGGRIEVED PERSON IS THE PETITIONER FOR THE
11:19:53 PETITION FOR REVIEW.
11:20:00 HE ALSO FINISHED HIS PRESENTATION.
11:20:10 [INAUDIBLE]
11:20:12 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MR. GRANDOFF IS THE PETITION
11:20:13 OWNER.
11:20:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HEAR FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER -- THE
11:20:17 AGGRIEVED PERSON.
11:20:20 IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA, IT FLIPS IT AROUND.
11:20:22 SO ANYWAY.
11:20:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN -- SORRY, FORGIVE ME FOR
11:20:31 SAYING THIS AND IF PEOPLE I SPEAK OUT OF TURN, CAMARIA
11:20:34 PETTIS-MACKLE WITH CORRECT ME, BUT AN AGGRIEVED PERSON
11:20:36 IS NOT NECESSARILY ON OPPONENT.
11:20:39 AN AGGRIEVED PERSON WHO HAS STANDING TO BRING REVIEW ON
11:20:41 A DECISION OF A LOWER BOARD.
11:20:43 AND THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE.
11:20:47 AND BY DEFINITION, THAT -- ON THAT BASIS WHAT GIVES
11:20:51 THEM STANDING TO BE ABLE TO REQUEST A REVIEW.
11:20:54 AM I CORRECT ON THIS, MISS CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE?
11:20:56 OR DID I STATE SOMETHING INCORRECT?
11:20:57 I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
11:20:59 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THAT IS CORRECT.
11:21:02 MR. FAIR IS THE PETITIONER -- FAILED A PETITION FOR
11:21:04 REVIEW BECAUSE HE IS AN AGGRIEVED PERSON.
11:21:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:21:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I LOOK AT THIS FORM HERE, WE PUT THE
11:21:11 CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
11:21:13 WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT'S LAST PETITION,
11:21:15 CORRECT?
11:21:16 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: NO.
11:21:19 YOU CAN GO ON TO MR. GRANDOFF WHO REPRESENTS THE
11:21:24 PROPERTY OWNER WHO FILED THE UNDERLYING VARIANCE.
11:21:28 THE APPLICATION FOR THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
11:21:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT COCHLEAR
11:21:31 FAY OCCASION.
11:21:32 MR. GRANDOFF.
11:21:35 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY
11:21:35 COUNCIL.
11:21:36 MY NAME IS JOHN GRANDOFF.
11:21:40 MY ADDRESS SUITE 3700 BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA.
11:21:43 AND I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF REPRESENTING MR. THOMAS
11:21:44 BUCKINGHAM.
11:21:48 AND I AM ALSO JOINED BY HI DAUGHTER, MAGGIE CHRISTY
11:21:49 WHO IS BEHIND ME.
11:21:53 MAGGIE, IF YOU RAISE YOUR HAND PLEASE.
11:21:55 IF I MIGHT SET THE STAGE FOR A MOMENT.
11:22:00 THE VARIANCE FILED BY THE BUCKINGHAMS BY MR. ZADOK
11:22:03 MILLS WHO WAS THEIR GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
11:22:06 THE VARIANCE WAS APPROVED 6-0.
11:22:09 MR. FAIR APPEALED THAT APPROVAL WHICH IS BEFORE YOU
11:22:10 THIS MORNING.
11:22:15 I'M HERE TO REQUEST THAT YOU AFFIRM THE VARIANCE WHICH
11:22:18 WAS GRANTED 67-0.
11:22:22 MISS MACKLE, CAN YOU CONFIRM THE TIME I HAVE AVAILABLE
11:22:23 FOR THE ARGUMENT.
11:22:25 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.
11:22:28 ACCORDING TO THE PROPOSED RULES OF PROCEDURES THINK
11:22:33 THAT PROVIDED I PROPOSED THE -- THE -- THE PROPERTY
11:22:37 OWNER TO HAVE 15 MINUTES.
11:22:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO TAKE IT ALL,
11:22:40 MR. GRANDOFF.
11:22:42 >> I WILL BE VERY BRIEF.
11:22:43 OKAY.
11:22:45 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH FIRST IS THE VARIANCE
11:22:48 WAS APPROVED 6-0.
11:22:50 WHAT IS IMPORTANT OF THAT, THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL WAS
11:22:55 MADE BY MR. DUSTIN PASTEUR WHO WAS APPOINTED BY YOU TO
11:22:57 THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
11:23:00 WHY IS THAT SIGNATURE?
11:23:05 BECAUSE MR. PASTEUR IS AN AIA ARCHITECT AND HE MADE THE
11:23:06 MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
11:23:09 HE HAPPENS TO BE THE CHIEF ARCHITECT OF TAMPA GENERAL
11:23:10 HOSPITAL.
11:23:14 HIS MOTION FOUND THAT THE VARIANCE WAS IN HARMONY WITH
11:23:15 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:23:17 AND THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE THIS IS A
11:23:19 GENTLEMAN WITH SPECIFIC KNOWLEDGE.
11:23:21 MAKING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
11:23:28 THE MOTION PASSES 6-0.
11:23:38 SPEAKS OF AN AGGRIEVED PERSON, THIS IS THE -- LET ME
11:23:46 TRY TO GET THIS FOR YOU THE BEST I CAN.
11:23:48 THIS IS THE BUCKINGHAM PROPERTY.
11:23:53 MR. FAIR LIVES HERE, JUST INSIDE THE 250-FOOT MARK.
11:23:56 HE IS IN A SEPARATE PLAT.
11:23:57 PARKLAND ESTATES.
11:24:00 ZONING IS RS-75.
11:24:06 THIS IS A DIFFERENT PLAT, GULFVIEW ESTATES.
11:24:07 R S-100.
11:24:09 THIS IS A NEW HOME GOING UP.
11:24:11 I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT.
11:24:17 THE SOLNER, THE MONARI, THE ARMIST PROPERTY IS
11:24:19 IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH.
11:24:22 WHAT IS SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THAT?
11:24:28 THE MOLINARIS HAVE ISSUED A LETTER APPROVAL.
11:24:34 THE BRANDEWES A LETTER APPROVAL.
11:24:39 THE SOLNERS ISSUED A LETTER OF APPROVAL.
11:24:42 WHAT YOU HAVE IS A LETTER THAT MAGGIE CRAFTED WITH MY
11:24:47 ASSISTANCE EXPLAINING HER REQUEST.
11:24:52 AND SEARCH OF THESE NEIGHBORS CONFIRM AN APPROVAL.
11:24:55 BASICALLY SPEAKING, THEY ARE FINDING THAT THE
11:25:03 APPLICATION WAS IN HARMONY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:25:10 LET'S GO ON THE PROPERTY FOR A MOMENT.
11:25:12 LET'S LOOK AT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:25:21 THIS IS MR. FAIR'S HOME WITH HIS ATTACHED GARAGE AT 27
11:25:24 FEET, 11 INCHES.
11:25:28 IN FACT, MR. FAIR IS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND WAS
11:25:30 PROBABLY INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THE PREPARATION OF
11:25:34 THESE PLANS FOR HIS HOME.
11:25:37 AND THIS IS MR. FAIR'S WESTERN ELEVATION.
11:25:41 THIS IS THE WAY HE WOULD BE LOOKING FORWARD MY CLIENT'S
11:25:42 PROPERTY.
11:25:47 TALKING ABOUT AGGRIEVED PERSON.
11:25:50 MR. FAIR TRULY AGGRIEVED?
11:25:56 A VIEW FROM MR. FAIR'S FRONT YARD.
11:25:59 THE DETACHED GARAGE WILL BE BACK HERE.
11:26:03 AGAIN, TWO LOTS BACK, MOVING TOWARD LINCOLN AVENUE.
11:26:05 THIS IS FROM ACROSS THE STREET FROM MR. FAIR.
11:26:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. GRANDOFF, WITH THE LIMITED
11:26:10 AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU HAVE, IF I COULD JUST ASK YOU
11:26:11 ONE THING.
11:26:13 >> SURE.
11:26:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE ARE NOT HERE ON A QUESTION OF
11:26:16 STANDING.
11:26:19 MR. FAIR HAS STANDING OTHERWISE YOU WOULD BE OBJECTING
11:26:19 TO IT.
11:26:21 >> CORRECT.
11:26:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT WE ARE HERE ON THE QUESTION OF
11:26:26 HARDSHIP AS MR. CITRO AND I SERVED MANY, MANY YEARS ON
11:26:28 THE VRB.
11:26:31 THE FIVE BASIC HARDSHIP QUESTIONS.
11:26:33 UNFORTUNATELY WHEN I LOOK AT THE APPLICATION, THE
11:26:35 ANSWERS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY GIVEN ON THE APPLICATION
11:26:41 OF THE HARDSHIP SAYS YES, OKAY, NO, OKAY, OKAY, OKAY.
11:26:44 NOT A LOT OF ELABORATION.
11:26:48 WE WEREN'T PRIVY TO THE DELIBERATIONS OF THE VRB AND
11:26:49 THE EXPLANATION.
11:26:53 IF YOU FOCUS ON THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA, I THINK IT WILL
11:26:54 BE FANTASTIC.
11:27:01 >> OKAY, WELL I WILL DO SO.
11:27:02 I WILL TAKE YOU --
11:27:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU ARE ALLOWED DE NOVO EVIDENCE
11:27:07 ACCORDING TO MR. SHELBY.
11:27:11 NOW WE ARE LOOKING TO THE REAR OF THE BUCKINGHAM
11:27:11 PROPERTY.
11:27:14 WHAT IS SIGNIFICANT IS THE TREE THERE.
11:27:16 AND HERE IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE TREE.
11:27:20 THE MOLINARI PROPERTY THAT IS NOT OBJECTING TO THE
11:27:21 APPLICATION.
11:27:22 HERE IS THE TREE.
11:27:28 AND HERE IS THE VIEW FROM THE FRONT OF THE BUCKINGHAM
11:27:28 PROPERTY.
11:27:30 NOW WHY IS THE TREE SIGNIFICANT?
11:27:43 PARDON ME FOR A MOMENT.
11:27:53 THE PREVIOUS DETACHED STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN 1925.
11:27:54 18 FEET.
11:27:59 18 AND A HALF FEET PREZONING AND WAS DEMOLISHED BUILD
11:28:03 THE NEW STRUCTURE 23.5 FEET ON THE STAPLE FOOTPRINT.
11:28:07 THEY CAN NOT MOVE TO THE EAST OR THE WEST, BECAUSE THEY
11:28:13 ARE HEMMED IN BY THAT TREE AND THEY CAN NOT MOVE TO THE
11:28:16 EAST BECAUSE HEMMED IN BY THE EXISTING POOL.
11:28:20 HERE IS THE BOUNDARY SURVEY.
11:28:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN HAVE THAT
11:28:24 BROUGHT UP, PLEASE.
11:28:26 >> MR. MILLS SAID THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE RECORD
11:28:29 EXPLAINING THE LOCATION OF THE -- OF THE PREVIOUS
11:28:29 STRUCTURE.
11:28:30 THAT IS INCORRECT.
11:28:32 THIS WAS THE PREVIOUS STRUCTURE.
11:28:34 HERE IS THE TREE.
11:28:38 THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU.
11:28:42 HERE IS THE SITE PLAN THAT MR. MILLS PREPARED.
11:28:44 AGAIN, THERE IS THE TREE.
11:28:50 HERE IS THE REPLACEMENT STRUCTURE BOWED OUT A LITTLE
11:28:51 BIT HERE.
11:28:52 HERE IS THE WOOL.
11:28:53 THEY CAN NOT MOVE EAST.
11:28:55 THEY CAN NOT MOVE WEST.
11:28:56 THEY CAN ONLY GO UP.
11:28:58 A HARDSHIP WITH THE PROPERTY.
11:29:01 THE MOLINARIS LIVE HERE.
11:29:04 RICK SOLNER LIVE HERE.
11:29:05 NO OBJECTION.
11:29:08 MR. FAIR LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LYNN CAN STREET ON
11:29:12 ANOTHER PLAT IN ANOTHER ZONING DISTRICT.
11:29:14 NOW MR. MILLS, THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR --
11:29:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: REPEAT THAT AGAIN, SIR.
11:29:21 >> MR. FAIR WHO IS OBJECTING LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
11:29:25 LINCOLN IN A DIFFERENT SUBDIVISION IN A DIFFERENT
11:29:26 ZONING.
11:29:28 HE IS IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
11:29:30 ZONING RS-75.
11:29:35 THIS PROPERTY IS IN GULFVIEW ESTATES R S-100.
11:29:38 HE IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROPERTY CHARACTER.
11:29:40 THESE ARE TO PROVE HARMONY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:29:44 LET ME BACK -- LET ME PAUSE FOR A MOMENT.
11:29:47 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE HARDSHIP PROOF THAT I
11:29:53 PLACED ON THE RECORD?
11:29:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU MARCH
11:30:02 THROUGH ALL FIVE OF THEM WITH SOME DETAIL.
11:30:07 I DON'T THINK THE OPINIONS OF THE NEIGHBORS IS OF THE
11:30:08 HARDSHIP.
11:30:12 >> CERTAINLY IS NOT BUT PART OF THE CRITERIA.
11:30:13 PARDON ME A SECOND.
11:30:15 I NEED TO LOCATE THE CODE.
11:30:16 HERE IS THE CODE.
11:30:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU NEED TO STAY IN FRONT OF THE
11:30:22 MICROPHONE, JOHN.
11:30:22 >> SORRY.
11:30:23 HERE IS THE CODE.
11:30:25 WHAT IS IMPORTANT -- THE APPLICANT MR. FAIR HAS TO BE
11:30:29 AN AGGRIEVED PERSON WHICH SAN APPLICANT OR ANY OWNER
11:30:31 WITHIN 250 FEET OF A SUBJECT PROPERTY.
11:30:33 AGGRIEVED PERSON.
11:30:35 HAS TO PROVE THERE IS SOME HARM HERE.
11:30:43 LET'S GET INTO THE CRITERIA.
11:30:45 THAT WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE.
11:30:48 NEW MEXICO ONE, HARDSHIPS ARE UNIQUE AND SINGULAR
11:30:51 RESPECT TO THE PROPERTY AND NOT SUFFER IN COMMON WITH
11:30:53 OTHER PROPERTIES.
11:30:55 NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE DEMOLISHED.
11:30:57 A TREE I HAVE SHOWN.
11:31:00 THE SPATIAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE LAYOUT OF THE
11:31:03 PROPERTY TO GO EAST AND WEST IS IMPOSSIBLE BASED ON
11:31:05 THOSE CONVICTIONS.
11:31:06 THAT UNIQUE.
11:31:10 NUMBER TWO, HARDSHIP DOES NOT RESULT FROM ACCESS OF THE
11:31:11 APPLICATION.
11:31:12 THEY DO NOT.
11:31:17 THE TREE EXIST THERE IS AND A NONCONFORMING GARAGE THAT
11:31:20 WAS DECREPIT AND BEING REMOVED AND ERASED.
11:31:23 THEY WANT TOO RAISE IT TO 23 AND A HALF FEET.
11:31:26 NUMBER THREE, THE VARIANCE IF GRANTED WILL NOT
11:31:31 SUBSTANTIAL INTERFERE AND INJURY THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND
11:31:32 WELFARE OF OTHERS.
11:31:34 THE THREE NEIGHBORS WHO DO NOT OBJECT.
11:31:37 HOW ON MR. FAIR ON THE ORDINARY SIDE OF THE STREET
11:31:39 BEING SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERED WITH?
11:31:41 HE DID NOT DEMONSTRATE THAT AT THE HEARING.
11:31:43 HE BASICALLY SAID I DON'T LIKE IT.
11:31:44 TAKE IT DOWN.
11:31:47 THIS MORNING, HE NOW COMPLAINS TO YOU ABOUT THE PROCESS
11:31:50 HE HAD TO GO THROUGH TO BUILD HIS STRUCTURE.
11:31:50 WHO CARES.
11:31:52 THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CASE.
11:31:57 NUMBER 4, THIS IS THESE PICTURES.
11:32:02 THIS IS DUSTIN PASTEUR'S MOTION.
11:32:06 THE VARIANCE IS IN HARMONY WITH AND SERVE THE GENERAL
11:32:09 INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THIS CHAPTER AND THE ADOPTED
11:32:11 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
11:32:12 THAT HAD WAS HIS FINDING.
11:32:17 SEVERAL HOURS IN THE GULF VIEW PLAT WITH DETACHED
11:32:20 STRUCTURES THAT EXCEED THE 15-FOOT LIMITATION.
11:32:23 NUMBER FIVE, FINALLY, BOTH PUBLIC BENEFITS ARE INTENDED
11:32:25 TO BE SECURED BY THIS CHAPTER.
11:32:28 THERE WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE DONE.
11:32:31 AND THE INDIVIDUAL HARDSHIPS OR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES
11:32:34 THAT WILL BE SUFFERED DUE TO THE FAILURE OF THE BOARD
11:32:36 TO GRANT A VARIANCE.
11:32:41 IF YOU HAVE A NONCONFORMING 18-AND-A-HALF-FOOT DECREPIT
11:32:46 GARAGE THAT YOU DEMOLISH, IT IS PUNITIVE TO REQUIRE
11:32:48 THAT GARAGE TO BE BUILT AT 15 FEET WHEN YOU
11:32:51 DEMONSTRATED THE HARDSHIPS WE PUT IN EVIDENCE THIS
11:32:52 MORNING.
11:32:54 I WILL SUMMARIZE IN A MOMENT.
11:32:58 LET ME LOOK AT MY NOTES.
11:33:01 MR. FAIR PUT INTO EVIDENCE AT THE HEARING THIS WAS A
11:33:05 66% INCREASE.
11:33:09 THIS IS ERRONEOUS BECAUSE MY CLIENT HAD THE RIGHT TO
11:33:12 CONTINUE THE 18 AND A HALF-FOOT GARAGE.
11:33:15 HE IS MEASURING 15 FEET TO 25 FEET WHICH IS 66%.
11:33:21 THIS IS 18 AND A HALF FEET TO 25 FEET.
11:33:26 MY CLIENT WILL BUILD 23.5 FEET.
11:33:29 AND WITH THREE NEIGHBORS ON ALL SIDES, NO OBJECTIONS.
11:33:33 THAT TESTIMONY WAS INCOMPETENT AND WAS UNSUBSTANTIAL
11:33:36 AND DID NOT SUPPORT ANYTHING CLOSE TO A MOTION OF
11:33:37 DENIAL.
11:33:42 AGAIN, REMEMBER MR. DUSTIN PASTEUR'S MOTION FINDING OF
11:33:45 HARMONY AND CONSIDERING OF THE HARDSHIPS MY CLIENTS
11:33:45 HAVE SHOWN.
11:33:49 I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU AFFIRM THE DECISION
11:33:53 THAT WAS GRANTED BY YOUR VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD BY 6-0.
11:33:56 I REMAIN AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:33:59 THANK YOU.
11:34:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. GRANDOFF?
11:34:03 MR. DINGFELDER.
11:34:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. GRANDOFF.
11:34:09 I APPRECIATE YOU HONING IN ON THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA
11:34:14 BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT IS THE MOST CRITICAL PART PUT UP
11:34:25 THE SITE PLAN IF YOU CAN ONE MORE SECOND, MR. GRANDOFF.
11:34:30 THIS IS THE -- THE SITE PLAN PRESENTED BY ZADICK MILLS
11:34:36 WHO WAS THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
11:34:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:34:39 THE TWO THINGS SHE IS LOOKING FOR IS THE GARAGE.
11:34:44 LOOKS LIKE PROBABLY A DOUBLE GARAGE ON THE SAME FOOT
11:34:47 PRINT SHE HAD BEFORE AND SOME TYPE OF LIVING AREA
11:34:47 ABOVE.
11:34:56 I AM ASSUMING A LITTLE GUEST AREA OR PLAYROOM.
11:34:59 >> HE HAS YOUNG CHILDREN, PLAYROOM.
11:35:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN THIS PARTICULAR -- IT IS NOT
11:35:04 ALLOWED AS A MATTER OF RIGHT SO WHY PEOPLE HAVE TO COME
11:35:06 IN FOR A VARIANCE.
11:35:09 THE QUESTION IS, COULD -- COULD THOSE TWO STRUCTURES BE
11:35:17 BUILT AT THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT WITHIN THAT EXISTING
11:35:19 FOOTPRINT.
11:35:27 IN OTHER WORDS, CAN YOU PUSH THE GARAGE UP TO TOWARD.
11:35:30 IS SHE ON LINCOLN STREET.
11:35:32 >> HERE IS THE HOME.
11:35:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COULD IT BE PUT SOMEWHERE ELSE NEAR
11:35:35 THERE.
11:35:40 SO THE GARAGE IS ONE-STORY AND THE ADDITIONAL HOME --
11:35:44 THE ADDITIONAL PLAYROOM OR WHATEVER SHE WANTS FOR THE
11:35:46 KIDS IS ON ONE STORY AND EVERYTHING STAYS WITHIN THE
11:35:47 CODE.
11:35:51 IF NOT, THEN IT -- THEN YOU ARE SAYING IT HAS TO BE TWO
11:35:55 STORIES.
11:35:56 >> I WILL VENTURE A GUESS ON THAT.
11:35:59 I DON'T THINK THE FIRE REGULATIONS WOULD ALLOW THAT
11:36:02 BECAUSE THE HOUSE -- THE STRUCTURES WILL BE TOO CLOSE
11:36:05 TOGETHER.
11:36:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU ARE SAYING BECAUSE OF THE TREE,
11:36:10 NOWHERE TO MOVE THAT GARAGE CLOSER -- CLOSER UP TO THE
11:36:16 TREE AND NO SPACE FOR THAT ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE.
11:36:19 >> A GRAND TREE AND EXISTING SWIMMING POOL HERE ALSO.
11:36:21 YOU CAN'T GO EAST AND WEST.
11:36:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE ARE HAVING TROUBLE HEARING.
11:36:25 >> YOU LET ME POINT.
11:36:26 THE TREE IS HERE.
11:36:27 THE GRAND TREE.
11:36:35 I SHOWED YOU A PICTURE OF IT.
11:36:38 SO THEY CAN'T GO EAST AND KEEP IT AT 15 FEET.
11:36:39 THE POOL IS HERE.
11:36:41 CAN'T GO -- CAN'T GO WEST.
11:36:43 CANNOT GO EAST.
11:36:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SOMEBODY HAS TESTIFIED FACTUALLY
11:36:51 THAT THE PRIOR STRUCTURE WAS HOW TALL?
11:36:52 >> 18.5 FEET.
11:36:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SHE IS LOOKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL
11:36:56 FOUR OR FIVE FEET?
11:36:58 >> FIVE PETE.
11:36:59 HERE IS THE EXISTING.
11:37:00 HERE IS THE PREVIOUS STRUCTURE.
11:37:04 IT IS LITERALLY ON THE FOOTPRINT.
11:37:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:37:08 I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
11:37:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. GRANDOFF?
11:37:14 >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE THIS IS A STAFF QUESTION BUT
11:37:15 MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER.
11:37:19 YOU TESTIFIED OF THE AI ARCHITECT WHO MADE THE MOTION.
11:37:25 WHEN THAT VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD MET, DID THEY HAVE THE
11:37:29 BENEFIT OF THE AGGRIEVED PARTY'S TESTIMONY?
11:37:32 DID SHE HEAR THE SAME ARGUMENTS WE HEARD A LITTLE WHILE
11:37:35 AGO FROM ATE GRIEVED PARTIED?
11:37:37 >> YES, I WATCHED THE TAPE OF IT.
11:37:42 >>BILL CARLSON: THEY DID, THANK YOU.
11:37:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:37:48 ALL RIGHT, WE GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT/PETITIONER.
11:37:49 >> YES.
11:37:50 THANK YOU.
11:37:52 COUPLE OF THINGS THAT --
11:37:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RECOGNIZED MR. SHELBY.
11:37:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
11:37:59 IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROCESS.
11:38:02 I BELIEVE THE ONLY TESTIMONY WAS THE ATTORNEYS.
11:38:06 THE QUESTION SIEVE -- DO WE WANT TO GO TO PUBLIC
11:38:15 COMMENT AND THEN HAVE PERIODS OF REBUTTAL.
11:38:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN WE ASK MISS CAMARIA
11:38:18 PETTIS-MACKLE.
11:38:18 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM
11:38:20 THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
11:38:23 I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO CROSS-EXAMINE
11:38:32 ANY WITNESSES, BUT BOTH COUNSELS ADVOCATED FOR CLIENTS.
11:38:37 AND ITEM -- THE PROCESS THAT THE PETITIONER AND THE
11:38:40 PROPERTY OWNER CAN PARTICIPATE IN IF THERE WILL ANY
11:38:43 EVIDENCE TO CROSS EXAMINATION.
11:38:45 THAT IS WHY I PROVIDED THAT PROCESS.
11:38:48 BUT IF THEY DO NOT WANT TO UTILIZE THAT PROCESS, I
11:38:52 WOULD ASK TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL -- ANY
11:38:54 ADDITIONAL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO
11:38:56 COMMENT ON THIS.
11:38:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOES EITHER SIDE WANT TO COMMENT
11:39:00 FURTHER?
11:39:01 CROSS EXAMINATION?
11:39:03 >> NO.
11:39:08 >> WE DO NOT WISH TO CROSS-EXAMINE.
11:39:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THIS
11:39:11 ITEM?
11:39:15 ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
11:39:17 >>CLERK: I HAVE NO ONE REGISTERED.
11:39:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
11:39:27 FINAL REBUTTAL, APPLICANT.
11:39:30 >> FRED MILLS, A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT MR. GRANDOFF
11:39:32 MADE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS.
11:39:36 I BASICALLY EARLIER STATED THAT THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE
11:39:39 -- I WILL AGAIN REPEAT THAT, THAT THE INITIAL HEARING
11:39:43 AS TO WHAT THE PRIOR STRUCTURE WAS.
11:39:47 THERE WAS -- TODAY, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION THAT WAS 18
11:39:48 FEET.
11:39:50 THEN WENT TO 18 AND A HALF.
11:39:51 TWO DIFFERENT COMMENTS MADE.
11:39:54 THE COMMENT TODAY WAS THAT IT WAS A NONCONFORMING
11:39:58 STRUCTURE THAT WAS BUILT IN 1925.
11:40:03 THAT WAS NOT -- AND YOU CAN LISTEN TO THE TAPE -- IN
11:40:05 THE PRIOR HEARING.
11:40:07 THE -- THE BUILDING HAD BEEN REMOVED.
11:40:11 SO MY COMMENT EARLIER WAS THAT THE BUILDING WOULD --
11:40:14 WOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED SO THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE AS TO
11:40:15 WHAT WAS THERE PRIOR.
11:40:18 THE STATEMENT WAS THAT THEY WERE BUILDING BACK WHAT WAS
11:40:20 PREVIOUSLY THERE.
11:40:24 THE COMMENT WITH REGARD TO THE PETITION.
11:40:27 ALL WE CAN DO IS APPEAL THE PETITION THAT WAS ACTUALLY
11:40:29 FILED BY THE HOMEOWNER.
11:40:34 A NORTHBOUND THAT PETITION, THEY APPLIED TO GO FROM 15
11:40:36 TO 25 FEET.
11:40:39 THERE WAS NO MENTION OF ANY OTHER STRUCTURES.
11:40:44 NO OTHER MENTION OF ANY OTHER HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE
11:40:49 SO WHEN MR. FAIR APPEALED AND PUT THERE WAS A 66%
11:41:01 EXCEDENCE OF THE ORDINANCE OF THE 15.
11:41:04 AND THEY FALL WITHIN APPEAR CERTAIN CRITERIA WHICH
11:41:10 NEITHER ONE OF THOSE CRITERIA WAS ADDRESSED BY COUNSEL
11:41:13 BECAUSE IT WAS NOT -- WHETHER GULFVIEW ESTATES OR
11:41:15 PARKVIEW ESTATES.
11:41:18 THE PROPERTY WAS STATED TO BE IN GULFVIEW.
11:41:23 IT IS NOT A NATIONAL -- OR LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
11:41:28 THE SAME CODE APPLIES TO BOTH SUBDIVISIONS.
11:41:31 DOESN'T MATTER ONE IS ONE AND ONE IS THE OTHER.
11:41:34 IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE MAXIMUM -- EVEN IF IT WAS
11:41:37 IN NATIONAL AND LOCAL WOULD HAVE BEEN 22 AND A HALF.
11:41:44 SO THE STATEMENT TODAY IT WAS 18 AND A HALF AND THEY
11:41:48 SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO HALF OF THAT ARE THE WAY THAT WAS
11:41:52 CALCULATED THAT MR. FAIR'S CALCULATIONS IS WRONG IS IN
11:41:53 FACT INCORRECT.
11:41:56 BECAUSE WE ARE APPEALING THE PETITION AND THE VOTE ON
11:41:56 THERE.
11:41:59 WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THE HARDSHIPS THAT WAS THERE,
11:42:03 EVEN THE DISCUSSION AS TO WHAT MR. FAIR WOULD OR WOULD
11:42:05 NOT SEE IS IMMATERIAL.
11:42:10 THE ONLY MATERIAL POINT WAS WHEN THEY DREW THE AID JUST
11:42:13 OF IT, MR. FAIR WAS A NOTICED PARTY.
11:42:14 HE IS WITHIN IT.
11:42:18 HE HAS ESTABLISHED A STANDING.
11:42:21 SHOWN TO DEMONSTRATE -- OR TO SHOW MR. FAIR'S
11:42:25 STRUCTURES IS ACTUALLY IMMATERIAL TO THE HEARING THAT
11:42:26 IS TODAY.
11:42:28 THE COMPLIANCE -- SO AS THEY WENT THROUGH THE
11:42:32 HARDSHIPS, THERE ARE MANY OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE
11:42:33 EXPLORED.
11:42:37 AND SO MR. FAIR MADE THE POINT AT THE HEARING, AND WILL
11:42:41 MAKE IT AGAIN TODAY, THAT WITH ENGINEERING AND WITH
11:42:45 REDESIGNING, YOU CAN TRY TO COMPLY WITH THE CODE THAT
11:42:47 APPLIES TO EVERYBODY.
11:42:51 OTHERWISE THERE IS NO SENSE OF HAVING THE CODE.
11:42:54 SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, HAVING STATED I HAVE A
11:42:57 TREE TO THIS SIDE AND A POOL TO THIS SIDE.
11:43:01 MY ONLY WAY TO DO IT IS TO GO UP, WELL, TO GO UP, WHAT
11:43:04 ABOUT YOU JUST COMPLY WITH THE CODE AND YOU DON'T GO
11:43:04 UP.
11:43:09 WHAT IF YOU DO WHAT WAS REQUIRED OF MR. FAIR ON HIS
11:43:12 PROPERTY TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, GO BACK TO
11:43:15 YOUR ENGINEERS, GO BACK TO YOUR CONTRACTOR, GO BACK TO
11:43:19 THE PROCESS AND COMPLY WITH THE TERMS AS ENUMERATED
11:43:20 WITHIN THE CODE.
11:43:22 THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.
11:43:24 WE DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING TODAY THAT STATED THAT THEY
11:43:26 WOULD COMPLY WITH THE CODE.
11:43:29 IN THE HARDSHIP, IT DOESN'T GET THEM TO THE POINT OF
11:43:33 THE 25 FEET THAT WAS REQUESTED, NOR DO THEY QUALIFY AS
11:43:36 A NATIONAL OR A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
11:43:43 SO, AGAIN, WE WOULD ASK THAT IT BE OVERTURNED AND NOT.
11:43:44 THAT'S IT.
11:43:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
11:43:49 CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:43:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:43:54 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
11:43:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:43:56 ANY OPPOSED?
11:43:57 ALL RIGHT.
11:44:01 MR. MIRANDA.
11:44:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY OTHER
11:44:05 THAN I AM HEARING BOTH SIDES.
11:44:08 AND I BELIEVE WHEN THIS -- I BELIEVE WHEN THIS HAPPENED
11:44:12 WE -- WE EXTENDED TO SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T LIKE SOMETHING
11:44:16 MANY YEARS AGO TO COMPLAIN WITH 250 FEET.
11:44:22 IF I SAW THE MAP, YES HE QUALIFIES FOR THAT, BUT ONLY
11:44:25 PARTIAL OF THE PROPERTY OF 200 FEET.
11:44:32 I VOTED WAY BACK THAT THIS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTABLE FOR
11:44:35 ME AS A COUNCILMEMBER MANY YEARS AGO.
11:44:37 THAT IS ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
11:44:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER.
11:44:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF YOU WERE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO
11:44:43 MOVE THIS ALONG, I WILL BE GLAD TO MAKE ONE.
11:44:47 I WILL MOVE TO AFFIRM THE VRB OF THE REQUEST FOR
11:44:49 VRB-21-25.
11:44:51 I DO BELIEVE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS DEMONSTRATED
11:44:57 THAT THE PETITION MEETS THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA 27-80.
11:44:59 >> HE SPECIFICALLY -- I WILL WALK THROUGH WHAT -- I
11:45:02 WILL WALK THROUGH THESE BRIEFLY JUST SO IT IS A MATTER
11:45:05 OF RECORD SINCE IT IS CONTESTED.
11:45:08 FIRST ONE SAYS THE ALLEGED HARDSHIP OF PRACTICAL
11:45:12 DIFFICULTIES UNIQUE AND SINGULAR WITH RESPECT TO THE
11:45:15 PROPERTY AND OF THE FUTURE AND NOT SUFFERED IN COMMON
11:45:18 WITH OTHER PROPERTIES AND SIMILARLY LOCATED.
11:45:22 THAT IS USUAL LET MOST CRITICAL ISSUE THAT THE VRB
11:45:23 ADDRESSES.
11:45:29 IN THIS CASE, THE TESTIMONY UNCONTROVERTED THAT THERE
11:45:33 IS A GRAND TREE THERE THAT WE ALL KNOW TAKES UP A LOT
11:45:33 OF SPACE.
11:45:37 AND THE TESTIMONY THAT WE HEARD WAS THAT A GARAGE -- A
11:45:40 GARAGE WITH A LITTLE PLAYROOM COULDN'T -- COULD NOT BE
11:45:47 LOCATED ON THE FIRST FLOOR, ONE LEVEL AREA ANYWHERE
11:45:47 ELSE.
11:45:51 THE SECOND ONE -- SECOND PART OF IT IS HARDSHIP OR
11:45:54 PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY DOES NOT RESULT FROM THE ACTIONS
11:45:58 OF THE APPLICANT, SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP SHOULD NOT
11:46:00 JUSTIFY A VARIANCE.
11:46:02 NO EVIDENCE THAT THIS WAS SELF-CREATED.
11:46:05 THE EVIDENCE WAS TO THE CONTRARY.
11:46:08 THAT THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE WAS AN OLD STRUCTURE THAT
11:46:12 NEEDED TO BE TAKEN DOWN BECAUSE IT WAS DILAPIDATED.
11:46:15 THIRD FACT THEIR VARIANCE WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH THE
11:46:17 HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF OTHERS.
11:46:19 MR. GRANDOFF PUT TESTIMONY THAT THE IMMEDIATELY
11:46:24 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS WERE IN FAVOR OF IT, ALTHOUGH MR.
11:46:26 FAIR IS NOT.
11:46:29 SO THAT IS SORT OF A BALANCING ACT.
11:46:32 NUMBER FOUR, I THINK THAT MR. PASTEUR DID ANSWER THAT.
11:46:35 BECAUSE HE IS A VERY WELL ESTABLISHED ARCHITECT IN THE
11:46:38 COMMUNITY THAT THE CONSTRUCTION PROPOSED IS IN HARMONY
11:46:44 AND SERVES THE GENERAL INTENT OF THE CHAPTER IN THE
11:46:45 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
11:46:49 AND NUMBER FIVE, ALLOWING THE VARIANCE WILL RESULT IN
11:46:52 SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE BEING DONE, ETC.
11:46:54 THAT GOES WITH THE EQUITIES OF THE SITUATION.
11:46:58 I THINK IN MY OPINION NUMBER 5 CAN BE ANSWERED BY THE
11:47:00 FACT THIS IS NOT A BRAND-NEW OPPORTUNITY NOR PROPERTY
11:47:00 OWNER.
11:47:03 THIS IS REPLACEMENT STRUCTURE.
11:47:06 AND THE FACT THAT IT IS AN ADDITIONAL FOUR OR FIVE FEET
11:47:10 TALLER, I DON'T THINK THAT IT CREATES ANY SUBSTANTIAL
11:47:12 INJUSTICE TO ANYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:47:15 WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:47:18 MANY OF THE HOMES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE TWO-CAR
11:47:22 GARAGES WITH PLAYROOMS AND OFFICES ABOVE THEM.
11:47:24 I DON'T THINK THAT IS UNUSUAL FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND
11:47:27 I THINK THEY MEET ALL FIVE OF THE CRITERIA.
11:47:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:47:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:47:34 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:47:35 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:47:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:47:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:47:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:47:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:47:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:47:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:47:47 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:47:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:47:52 GENTLEMEN, A FEW DECISIONS TO MAKE VERY QUICKLY.
11:47:54 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
11:47:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED ITEM NUMBER 95
11:47:58 HAS 10 TO 12 SPEAKERS.
11:48:01 SPA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS
11:48:04 OF THE COUNCIL.
11:48:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL ASK THAT WE HOLD OFF ON THAT.
11:48:10 WE WILL NOT GET TO 12 SPEAKERS AND APPLICANTS IN
11:48:11 OPPOSITION.
11:48:14 ITEM NUMBER 96 WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY.
11:48:17 SO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THAT.
11:48:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE TO STRIKE THAT.
11:48:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:48:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER MOVED IT AND MR.
11:48:26 MANISCALCO SECONDED.
11:48:27 MOTION CARRIED.
11:48:29 THREE STAFF REPORTS BECAUSE WE RELEASED FOLKS ALREADY
11:48:31 BECAUSE WE HAVE SUFFICIENT.
11:48:33 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE THREE STAFF REPORTS AND GET
11:48:37 THEM OUT OF THE WAY BY 12:15 OR 12:30 AND HANDLE THE
11:48:40 HEARINGS WITH THE MULTIPLE OF PEOPLE ON 95.
11:48:43 MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:48:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PEOPLE WHO
11:48:48 ARE HERE SCHEDULED FOR 10:30 MEETING.
11:48:51 THE QUESTION IS WHAT TIME DO YOU BELIEVE THE COUNCIL
11:48:54 WILL RECONVENE TO PLAN ACCORDINGLY.
11:48:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE.
11:49:00 I BELIEVE I CAN GET THESE THREE OR FOUR STAFF ITEMS BY
11:49:05 12:30 AND RECONVENE AT 1:30, POSSIBLY 2:00.
11:49:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT THE THING IS, THE QUESTION IS --
11:49:10 I AM JUST CONCERNED --
11:49:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 2:00, SIR.
11:49:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I APOLOGIZE.
11:49:20 I AM USUALLY GOOD AS LONG AS YOU WANT ME I HAVE AN
11:49:22 APPOINTMENT AT NOON.
11:49:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHY DON'T WE BREAK FOR LUNCH UNTIL
11:49:28 1:15 AND COME BACK WITH THE STAFF REPORTS.
11:49:30 I DON'T THINK THEY WILL TAKE ANY MORE THAN 15 MINUTES
11:49:33 AND GO INTO THE ITEM NUMBER 95 AND IT WOULD
11:49:35 ACCOMMODATE.
11:49:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS COUNCIL'S PRESSURE.
11:49:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BREAK NOW AND COME BACK AT 1:15?
11:49:46 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, COULD WE START WITH THE ONE
11:49:54 WITH THE PEOPLE WAITING AT 1:15.
11:49:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
11:49:57 THAT IS COUNCIL'S PRESSURE.
11:50:00 I USUALLY LIKE TO GET STAFF OUT OF THE WAY, BUT GET IT
11:50:00 CRACKING THIS TIME.
11:50:02 AND WE WILL BRING THEM UP FIRST.
11:50:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO IT IS CLEAR FOR THE PEOPLE ON THE
11:50:06 SECOND FLOOR.
11:50:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 1:15.
11:50:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL WILL TAKE A LUNCH RECESS
11:50:19 RIGHT NOW AND RECONVENE WITH NUMBER 95 AT 1:15.
11:50:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 1:15.
11:50:21 THANK YOU.
11:50:23 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
(Meeting Recess)
01:21:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE'RE BACK IN SESSION.
01:21:36 ROLL CALL.
01:21:38 >> CARLSON?
01:21:39 MANISCALCO?
01:21:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:21:40 >> DINGFELDER?
01:21:41 CITRO?
01:21:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
01:21:47 >> VIERA?
01:21:48 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
01:21:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:21:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
01:21:51 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:21:53 ALL RIGHT.
01:21:55 WHEN WE LEFT OFF, WE SAID ITEM NUMBER 95.
01:22:00 WE WOULD START OFF WITH STAFF REPORTS AT 1:30.
01:22:04 WE'LL START WITH ITEM 95.
01:22:06 IS STAFF READY TO PRESENT?
01:22:08 >> YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
01:22:11 CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
01:22:13 MAY I PROCEED?
01:22:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MAY PROCEED.
01:22:16 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THANK YOU.
01:22:17 GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR, AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
01:22:21 FOR THE RECORD, AGAIN, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE, ASSISTANT CITY
01:22:23 ATTORNEY.
01:22:24 ITEM NUMBER 95 IS BEFORE YOU AS A PETITION FILED BY
01:22:30 MR. CEDRIC POWELL, THE APPLICANT OF THE SPECIAL USE 1
01:22:33 GENERAL REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1908 NORTH
01:22:37 36th STREET.
01:22:42 SEEKING REVIEW OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION
01:22:45 DENYING THE PRIVATE RECREATION FACILITIES WHICH REQUESTS
01:22:49 RELIEF FROM 27-132 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE.
01:22:53 MR. SHELBY PASSED OUT A COPY OF THE HEARING PROCEDURES FOR
01:22:58 TODAY'S REVIEW AS WELL AS SAMPLE MOTIONS.
01:23:01 I ALSO INCLUDED IN THE PACKET RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS,
01:23:09 SECTIONS 27-132 AND 27-129.
01:23:14 AS INDICATED ON THE AGENDA, THIS ITEM WAS PREVIOUSLY HEARD
01:23:18 AT A REVIEW HEARING ON JULY 29th OF 2021.
01:23:21 HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT DID NOT PERFECT NOTICE AND AS A
01:23:25 RESULT CITY COUNCIL HAS TO HEAR THIS PETITION FOR REVIEW
01:23:31 AGAIN.
01:23:33 FOR PURPOSES OF TODAY'S HEARINGS, CITY COUNCIL APPLIES
01:23:36 DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW.
01:23:38 YOUR DECISION IS NOT LIMITED TO THE RECORD CREATED BY THE
01:23:41 ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
01:23:43 INSTEAD, YOU CAN TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY, ACCEPT NEW EVIDENCE
01:23:46 AND MAKE A DECISION BASED UPON THE APPLICATION OF RELATED
01:23:50 CRITERIA SET FORTH IN 27-132 AND 27-129.
01:23:54 DURING THE PREVIOUS REVIEW HEARING HELD ON JULY 29, 2021,
01:24:00 CITY COUNCIL PLACED CONDITIONS ON THE APPROVAL OF THE
01:24:03 SPECIAL USE APPLICATION REGARDING THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
01:24:06 SPECIFICALLY, CITY COUNCIL STATED THAT THE CLOSING HOURS
01:24:10 SHALL BE SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY UNTIL 9 P.M. AND FRIDAY
01:24:14 THROUGH SATURDAY UNTIL 11 P.M.
01:24:16 UPON FURTHER REVIEW WITH STAFF, THERE IS NO PROVISION IN THE
01:24:21 CODE THAT WILL ALLOW -- PROVISION IN THE CODE THAT WOULD
01:24:27 ENFORCE COMPLIANCE WITH THIS TYPE OF OPERATIONAL CONDITION.
01:24:30 ANY CONDITIONS THAT ARE PLACED ON THE SPECIAL USE
01:24:34 APPLICATION MUST BE REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LAND
01:24:40 AND NOT THE OPERATIONAL USE OF THE PROPERTY, MEANING ANY
01:24:42 CONDITIONS HAVE TO BE RELATED TO CHAPTER 27.
01:24:48 LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS RESPECTFULLY ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO NOT
01:24:51 PLACE ANY CONDITIONS REGARDING THE OPERATION OF THE
01:24:55 PROPERTY.
01:24:56 MR. COTTON, ERIC COTTON, WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE
01:25:01 RELIEF REQUESTED IN THE APPLICATION AND THE BASIS FOR THE
01:25:03 CITY'S DECISION.
01:25:04 AFTER CONSIDERING ALL OF THE EVIDENCE INTRODUCED INTO THE
01:25:07 RECORD OF TODAY'S HEARINGS, CITY COUNCIL MAY UPHOLD THE
01:25:11 ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION AND THEREBY DENY THE SPECIAL
01:25:15 USE 1 APPLICATION, OR CITY COUNCIL MAY OVERTURN THE ZONING
01:25:20 ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION AND THEREBY APPROVE THE APPLICATION
01:25:24 FOR THE SPECIAL USE 1 APPLICATION.
01:25:26 WITH THAT, I WILL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO MR. COTTON,
01:25:31 AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
01:25:34 I ASK ALSO THAT CITY COUNCIL, MR. CHAIR, RECEIVE AND FILE
01:25:38 ANY EX PARTE WRITTEN DOCUMENTATIONS THAT WERE RECEIVED.
01:25:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
01:25:47 MR. MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
01:25:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:25:49 ANY OPPOSED?
01:25:50 MOTION CARRIES.
01:25:51 MR. COTTON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
01:25:52 >>ERIC COTTON: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
01:25:54 MAY I BE SWORN, PLEASE?
01:25:58 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
01:25:59 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT
01:26:01 TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
01:26:04 >>ERIC COTTON: YES, MA'AM.
01:26:05 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
01:26:07 >>ERIC COTTON: FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT MS. CAMARIA
01:26:10 PETTIS-MACKLE INDICATED -- MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
01:26:14 SHARE MY PowerPoint.
01:26:16 ACTUALLY.
01:26:26 THAT IS THE WRONG ONE I WANTED TO SHARE.
01:26:36 NOW YOU SHOULD SEE THE NICER VERSION OF THE SCREEN.
01:26:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BLOW IT UP FOR US.
01:26:39 >>ERIC COTTON: DO YOU SEE THE ONE THAT SAYS "WELCOME CITY OF
01:26:43 TAMPA"?
01:26:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SEE TWO SCREENS.
01:26:46 >>ERIC COTTON: THIS IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW AT PROPERTY AT
01:26:49 1908 NORTH 36th STREET.
01:26:51 SU1-21-35.
01:26:54 THE APPLICANT, IT DOES SAY PROPOSED.
01:26:57 I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY DESIGNATED THIS PROPERTY
01:27:00 AS A LOCAL LANDMARK.
01:27:01 THIS IS A TIERRA DEL LAGO CIGAR FACTORY.
01:27:05 THE PROPOSED SPECIAL USE IS FOR A RECREATIONAL FACILITY
01:27:09 PRIVATE, DEFINED BY THE CODE AS PRIVATELY OPERATED FACILITY
01:27:12 PROVIDING INDOOR OR OUTDOOR RECREATION ACTIVITIES,
01:27:14 INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, COMMUNITY, CLUBS, AND
01:27:17 MEETINGS, COUNTRY CLUBS, GOLF COURSES, AND RIDING STABLES
01:27:22 AND TENNIS CLUBS.
01:27:23 THE STANDARD FOR REVIEW UNDER CHAPTER 27-132 IS SHOWN ON THE
01:27:30 SCREEN.
01:27:30 THE BIGGEST ISSUE -- LET ME GO TO THE NEXT PAGE AND SHOW THE
01:27:33 ZONING ADMINISTRATOR DETERMINATIONS -- IT NEEDS TO HAVE
01:27:36 DIRECT ACCESS ONTO AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR ROAD WHEN THE
01:27:40 MEMBERSHIP IS NOT LIMITED TO THE DIRECT ADJACENT PROPERTIES
01:27:42 AND AREAS.
01:27:43 AS A RESULT, WE DENIED THIS REQUEST BECAUSE THERE'S NO
01:27:49 ACCESS -- NORTH 16th STREET IS NOT AN ARTERIAL NOR A
01:27:52 COLLECTOR ROAD.
01:27:53 IT'S A LOCAL STREET.
01:27:54 NO PARKING OR LOADING AREAS OR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT CAN BE
01:28:00 LOCATED WITHIN 25 FEET OF AN ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
01:28:02 THIS PROPERTY HAS PARKING AND LOADING AREAS WITHIN 25 FEET
01:28:06 OF THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO THE SOUTH.
01:28:09 2761 IS THE STANDARD FOR A FILING A PETITION FOR REVIEW,
01:28:16 WHICH IS WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS DONE.
01:28:18 I WOULD LIKE -- SIR?
01:28:19 I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE APPLICANT DID APPLY FOR A
01:28:25 DESIGN EXCEPTION TO REDUCE THE BUFFER.
01:28:28 LET ME FORWARD TO REDUCE THE BUFFER ALONG THE SOUTHERN
01:28:32 PROPERTY LINE.
01:28:33 THAT WAS APPROVED AS WELL AS THROUGH HERE.
01:28:36 THERE IS A SIX-FOOT WALL WITH THE REDUCED VEGETATION.
01:28:39 THE APPLICANT ALSO ASKED FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION TO REDUCE
01:28:42 THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FROM 48 TO 10.
01:28:46 THAT REQUEST WAS ADMINISTRATIVELY DENIED.
01:28:49 COUNCIL CANNOT TAKE ACTION ON THAT REQUEST.
01:28:51 THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE THROUGH A PD OR A VARIANCE, SO THE --
01:28:56 OR A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION, WHICH THE
01:28:59 APPLICANT DID NOT APPLY FOR.
01:29:01 SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND GO BEFORE THE VARIANCE
01:29:04 REVIEW BOARD OR GO THROUGH A PD TO REDUCE THE PARKING.
01:29:08 LET ME GO BACK ONE SLIDE.
01:29:09 THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.
01:29:12 THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING IT ON THE WEST SIDE OF NORTH 36th
01:29:17 STREET IS ALL ZONED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
01:29:20 ACROSS THE STREET THERE IS SOME COMMERCIAL ZONING AND
01:29:23 FURTHER HEADING TOWARD THE EAST IS SOME INDUSTRIAL ZONING
01:29:27 CATEGORIES.
01:29:27 JUST SOME SURROUNDING PHOTOS.
01:29:31 THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
01:29:33 THIS IS THE FRONT OF IT FROM 36th STREET.
01:29:36 THIS IS A SIDE VIEW FROM THE WEST FROM THE PROPERTY.
01:29:41 THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST.
01:29:42 IT'S A CHURCH.
01:29:43 THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST.
01:29:46 AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU COUNCIL, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT
01:29:49 USE IS AT THIS POINT.
01:29:50 THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH ARE BOTH SINGLE-FAMILY
01:29:53 RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
01:29:54 COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
01:29:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
01:30:00 ANY QUESTIONS?
01:30:01 ALL RIGHT.
01:30:02 WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
01:30:05 >>ERIC COTTON: THANK YOU.
01:30:07 >> GOOD MORNING.
01:30:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. POWELL, HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?
01:30:13 >> NO.
01:30:14 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
01:30:17 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT
01:30:19 TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
01:30:21 >> YES.
01:30:22 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
01:30:23 >> IN ANSWERING SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORS, A
01:30:32 COUPLE OF ARRANGEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE.
01:30:34 ONE ARRANGEMENT HAD BEEN AN AGREEMENT I HAVE WITH PASTOR
01:30:38 RICHARDSON WITH THE CHURCH TO THE WEST TO -- WE HAVE AN
01:30:43 AGREEMENT THAT I WILL LEASE PARKING SPACES FROM HIM.
01:30:47 SO THAT'S THE ADDRESS -- SO THAT'S TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE
01:30:51 PARKING CONCERNS.
01:30:52 ALSO, IN TERMS OF THE NOISE, POTENTIAL NOISE THAT I HEARD
01:30:57 COULD BE A CONCERN, THERE IS AN EXISTING TREE BUFFER TO THE
01:31:03 SOUTH AND THE WEST OF THE BUILDING.
01:31:07 I ALSO HAVE A PHENOMENAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE RESIDENT
01:31:12 OWNER TO THE NORTH.
01:31:15 IF YOU WERE TAKING A LOOK AT THE STREET, 36th STREET,
01:31:21 WHICH IS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, EVERY PROPERTY
01:31:24 ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET IS COMMERCIAL.
01:31:28 WHEN YOU COME TO -- ACTUALLY, THAT'S THE EAST SIDE OF THE
01:31:32 STREET IS COMMERCIAL.
01:31:34 WHEN IT COMES TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET, YOU HAVE
01:31:37 MIXED.
01:31:38 YOU HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL AND SOME RESIDENTIAL.
01:31:41 SO I KNOW SOME OF THE CONCERNS WERE MORE THE RESIDENTIAL.
01:31:45 BUT IT IS AN AREA WITH LOTS OF MIXES BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND
01:31:49 COMMERCIAL.
01:31:51 THE BUILDING IS A FOUR-STORY BUILDING, SO I SAW SOME OF THE
01:31:55 CONCERNS ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE IN THE BUILDING AT
01:31:59 ONE TIME.
01:32:01 WITH FOUR FLOORS, IT'S VIRTUALLY ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE
01:32:05 MORE THAN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE OCCUPYING THE SPACE AT
01:32:10 ONE TIME.
01:32:11 DURING THE WEEK, WE INTEND THE BUILDING TO BE OFFICE SPACE
01:32:15 AND COMMUNITY EVENT SPACE.
01:32:18 I'VE ALREADY FIELDED MULTIPLE CALLS FROM DIFFERENT
01:32:21 ORGANIZATIONS TO USE THE FACILITY DURING THE WEEK, WHETHER
01:32:25 IT'S FROM A COMPUTER MENTORING CLUB OR DIFFERENT TRAINING
01:32:30 PROGRAMS.
01:32:32 SO MY GOAL WITH THE BUILDING IS FOR IT TO BE A PLACE THAT
01:32:35 THE COMMUNITY IS PROUD OF, AND THAT'S ONE REASON I SEEK THE
01:32:40 HISTORICAL DESIGNATION.
01:32:41 I WANT TO KEEP THE FABRIC AS IT IS.
01:32:46 AND THEN ALSO, I'M THINKING ALSO GOING BACK TO THE NOISE.
01:32:50 I DON'T PLAN FOR THE NOISE LEVEL TO BE ANY LOUDER THAN THE
01:32:54 NOISE YOU'LL HEAR FROM A CHOIR OF THE CHURCH THAT'S BEHIND
01:32:59 ME.
01:33:02 AS WELL AS THE MACHINE SHOP ON THE CORNER OF 36th AND
01:33:06 7th.
01:33:06 SO THE NOISE LEVEL SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM.
01:33:11 THINKING OF THE BUILDING, THE BUILDING HAS BEEN THERE 111
01:33:15 YEARS.
01:33:15 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VERY THICK BRICK WALLS AND THE TYPE OF
01:33:19 WINDOWS WE WILL BE INSTALLING ON THE BUILDING WILL SHIELD A
01:33:25 LOT OF NOISE FROM THE NEIGHBORS IN ESSENCE BE REFLECTING
01:33:30 NOISE BACK TO THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING.
01:33:32 ALSO, WITH THE MULTIPLE LETTERS I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR, FOR
01:33:44 MAILING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, I ONLY RECEIVED TWO CALLS, TWO
01:33:48 PHONE CALLS.
01:33:49 I ANSWERED THOSE CALLS MULTIPLE TIMES.
01:33:52 HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH JOSE CAYON VIA PHONE.
01:33:58 WE DID TRY TO GET TOGETHER AT THE BUILDING ONE SATURDAY, BUT
01:34:03 LIFE GOT IN THE WAY.
01:34:05 BUT I ANSWERED EVERY CALL THAT WAS CALLED.
01:34:09 EVERY LETTER HAD MY PERSONAL CELL PHONE NUMBER ON IT.
01:34:14 AND EVERY PERSON THAT CALLED ME, I ANSWERED THEIR CONCERNS
01:34:17 FULLY AND COMPLETELY.
01:34:18 ALSO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDING, I PUT THE RENDERING OF
01:34:24 THE FINISHED PRODUCT OUT THERE, APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 90 DAYS
01:34:29 AGO.
01:34:30 WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW WHAT WOULD BE
01:34:34 COMING, AND THAT -- I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, THE BUILDING
01:34:40 IS FOR EVERYONE TO USE.
01:34:41 THERE'S NO -- EVERYONE TO USE.
01:34:44 WHETHER YOU LOOK LIKE ME OR YOU LOOK LIKE SOMEONE ELSE, THE
01:34:47 BUILDING IS FOR EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY TO USE AND ENJOY.
01:34:52 IT'S A COMMUNITY EVENT CENTER.
01:34:56 IT'S AN ADDITIONAL OFFICE WORK SPACE FOR EVERYONE TO USE AND
01:34:59 ENJOY.
01:35:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR?
01:35:05 >> IT DOES.
01:35:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
01:35:06 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
01:35:09 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
01:35:15 WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
01:35:16 ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
01:35:20 ARE YOU PART OF THE APPLICANT OR PART OF PUBLIC COMMENT,
01:35:29 OPTION, SIR?
01:35:31 >> I'M BOTH.
01:35:31 PART OF THE APPLICANT AND I STAND AS THE APPLICANT AS WELL
01:35:35 AS THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
01:35:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SWORN IN?
01:35:40 >> NO.
01:35:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I COULD CLARIFY, IF I COULD ASK THE
01:35:43 APPLICANT, IS HE PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR?
01:35:47 IS HE PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION OR IS HE SPEAKING THREE
01:35:50 MINUTES ON HIS OWN?
01:35:52 >> YES.
01:35:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME GO BACK.
01:35:54 MR. POWELL, IF ANY FOLKS ARE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF YOU AS
01:35:57 THE APPLICANT, PLEASE IDENTIFY THEM NOW SO I CAN GET THEM
01:36:01 SWORN IN AND THEY CAN SPEAK ON YOUR BEHALF AS THE APPLICANT
01:36:03 BEFORE I GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.
01:36:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
01:36:09 SIR, THEY ARE ENTITLED, WHETHER THEY ARE IN SUPPORT OF IT OR
01:36:11 WHETHER THEY ARE IN OPPOSITION, ANYBODY WHO IS NOT OF YOUR
01:36:16 PRESENTATION, YOU ARE ALLOWED 15 MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR FULL
01:36:19 PRESENTATION.
01:36:20 YOU CAN TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
01:36:22 IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES DURING YOUR
01:36:25 TIME OR AS MUCH TIME AS YOU WANT UP TO THE 15 DURING YOUR
01:36:28 PRESENTATION, YOU CAN DO THAT, OR YOU CAN TAKE AS MUCH TIME
01:36:31 AS YOU WANT AND ANYBODY, WHETHER THEY ARE IN SUPPORT OR
01:36:34 OPPOSITION CAN COME UP SEPARATELY AND SPEAK FOR THREE
01:36:39 MINUTES.
01:36:41 >> YEAH, THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
01:36:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY, SIR.
01:36:45 WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SWEAR THE OTHER TWO GENTLEMEN IN WHO
01:36:52 WANTED TO SPEAK AND TAKE IT FROM THERE.
01:36:53 GO AHEAD AND SWEAR THEM IN.
01:36:55 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
01:36:57 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT
01:37:00 TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
01:37:03 >> I DO.
01:37:03 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
01:37:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
01:37:09 >> RANDY RANDOLPH.
01:37:11 THANK YOU.
01:37:13 I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SHARE ON
01:37:18 BEHALF OF I GUESS WHAT WAS KNOWN AS THE CIGARETTE FACTORY.
01:37:22 GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY WITH THE COMMUNITY SPACE THAT'S
01:37:25 AVAILABLE, ME BEING A PASTOR IN THE COMMUNITY AND A PART OF
01:37:28 THE COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT IT GIVES US A GREATER
01:37:31 OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO, AGAIN, ENJOY THE ESSENCE OR THE
01:37:36 FABRIC OF YBOR CITY BY KEEPING THAT BUILDING IN ITS
01:37:40 HUNDRED-PLUS-YEAR STATUS AND ALLOW IT TO BE CONTINUED TO BE
01:37:45 USED FOR THE COMMUNITY.
01:37:46 I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND THE CHANGES IS IN OUR
01:37:49 CITY.
01:37:49 I THINK THIS IS PROOF OF THE PART -- OR PROOF OF THE CHANGE
01:37:52 THAT'S IN THE CITY.
01:37:54 AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND THOSE THAT HAVE A
01:37:57 VOTE IN LOOKING AT THESE THINGS WOULD BE OPEN TO THE SAME
01:38:02 OPENNESS OF BEING ABLE TO ALLOW FOR US TO BE ABLE TO
01:38:07 ACCOMPLISH THESE THINGS, A BUILDING STANDING THERE VACANT
01:38:12 FOR SO MANY YEARS, IT'S FUNNY OR IT HAS YOU THINKING THAT SO
01:38:15 MUCH -- SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY WHEN YOU'RE IN
01:38:18 USE OF A BUILDING RATHER THAN THE OPPORTUNITY OF HAVING
01:38:21 SOMETHING TO SAY WHEN THE BUILDING WAS DEPLETED.
01:38:24 THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T SPEAK THEN, AND NOW WE HAVE AN
01:38:27 OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY AND ALLOW THOSE IN THE
01:38:31 COMMUNITY TO SHARE A BUILDING.
01:38:32 I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BIND AND COME TOGETHER TO MAKE
01:38:35 SURE THOSE THINGS WORK FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
01:38:38 THE GROWTH OF OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD NOT STOP ON 22nd STREET
01:38:42 OR 34th STREET.
01:38:43 IT SHOULD CONTINUE TO EXTEND UNTIL YBOR CITY IS IN ITS WHOLE
01:38:48 ALL THE WAY TO 39th, 40th STREET.
01:38:50 CONTINUE TO GROW AND ALLOW OUR COMMUNITY TO EXPAND.
01:38:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
01:38:58 THANK YOU, SIR.
01:38:59 >> THANK YOU.
01:39:00 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
01:39:00 AGAIN, I THINK IT WAS EARLY I HEARD MR. -- OR COUNCILMAN
01:39:05 DINGFELDER SAY WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST ONE POINT THAT WE
01:39:08 SHOULD BE ABLE TO STATE AND THE REASON WHY IT SHOULD STAY
01:39:11 THERE.
01:39:12 BEFORE IT WAS A BUILDING THAT WAS DEPLETED WITH BUMS AND
01:39:17 HOMELESSNESS AROUND IT, AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE A VIBRANT
01:39:20 BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO ENHANCE OUR COMMUNITY.
01:39:21 THANK YOU, AGAIN.
01:39:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
01:39:23 HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?
01:39:34 >> NO, I HAVE NOT.
01:39:35 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
01:39:38 YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
01:39:41 >> I DO.
01:39:41 MY NAME IS STANLEY GRAY.
01:39:45 I RESIDE AT 3020 WEST HARBORVIEW AVENUE.
01:39:48 I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE URBAN LEAGUE OF HILLSBOROUGH
01:39:50 COUNTY.
01:39:51 OUR ADDRESS IS 1250 MARTIN LUTHER KING.
01:39:59 I REALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO SAY.
01:40:03 ONE IS THAT PERCEPTION, IN MANY CASES IS REALITY.
01:40:06 I'VE SEEN LIKE CASES GOING FOR MONTHS ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
01:40:12 AND EVENTUALLY -- EVENTUALLY WITHOUT THE ISSUES WITH PARKING
01:40:17 AND THE COMPLAINTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS FORCED THE WAY
01:40:23 THROUGH AND THEY BUILT THIS CLUB.
01:40:26 THE REAL REASON WHY I'M HERE, THOUGH, THE URBAN LEAGUE OF
01:40:29 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, WE WORK WITH COLLABORATION WITH PEOPLE,
01:40:31 AND BY DOING SO, WE CAN DO A LOT MORE WITH OUR FUNDS.
01:40:35 MR. POWELL HAS AGREED TO HELP OUR YOUTH PROGRAM BY BEING
01:40:43 HOUSED IN THIS BUILDING.
01:40:44 THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THE CITY OF TAMPA.
01:40:48 AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS WILL
01:40:51 BE FOLLOWED.
01:40:53 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL BE A NUISANCE.
01:40:55 AND I DON'T SEE HOW ANYBODY COULD PERCEIVE THERE WOULD BE A
01:40:58 NUISANCE WHEN THE BUILDING WAS A NUISANCE BEFORE THEY GOT
01:41:01 INVOLVED WITH IT.
01:41:02 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
01:41:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
01:41:06 ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
01:41:20 >> HI.
01:41:21 GOOD AFTERNOON.
01:41:22 I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
01:41:23 MY NAME IS JOSE CAYON.
01:41:26 I AM THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE HISTORIC EAST YBOR AND
01:41:29 GARY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
01:41:31 AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF GARY,
01:41:36 THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD EAST OF YBOR CITY.
01:41:38 THE FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY IS I DON'T BELIEVE THIS
01:41:44 HEARING IS RELATED TO THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF THE
01:41:47 BUILDING.
01:41:48 I THINK THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR THE FUTURE.
01:41:50 AND THE RESIDENTS ARE TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF, YOU KNOW,
01:41:54 RESTORING THE BUILDING.
01:41:56 THIS HEARING IS ABOUT THE SPECIAL USE THAT THE APPLICANT IS
01:42:03 SPEAKING.
01:42:05 FROM WHAT WE HEARD A FEW MINUTES AGO, HE TOTALLY FAILS TO
01:42:10 SHOW HOW HE'S MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, LAID OUT
01:42:17 IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
01:42:20 HE FAILS TOTALLY.
01:42:21 THIS BUILDING IS LOCATED WITHIN 25 FEET OF A RESIDENT, A
01:42:27 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:42:30 IT IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
01:42:32 IT IS NOT ZONED COMMERCIAL.
01:42:34 ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THERE'S ACTUALLY A
01:42:39 RESIDENT, IT IS NOT A BUSINESS.
01:42:41 THE BUILDING IS A HISTORIC BUILDING.
01:42:42 IT MAY LOOK LIKE COMMERCIAL, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A HOME.
01:42:45 THERE IS A DAY CARE NEXT TO IT.
01:42:48 BUT THE MAIN THING IS THE CIGAR FACTORY IS VERY UNUSUAL.
01:42:51 IT SITS ON A 5,000-SQUARE-FOOT LOT, AND, BY THE WAY, I CAN'T
01:42:59 SEE YOU GUYS.
01:43:00 I SEE MYSELF.
01:43:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE SEE YOU.
01:43:03 WE CAN HEAR YOU.
01:43:06 >> I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU AND NOT MYSELF.
01:43:07 ANYWAY, GOING BACK TO WHAT I WAS SPEAKING, HE FAILS TO PROVE
01:43:12 HOW THIS PROPOSAL FITS THE REQUIREMENT LAID OUT ON THE
01:43:15 MUNICIPAL CODE.
01:43:18 THE LOT IS ONLY 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
01:43:21 IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR ENOUGH PARKING.
01:43:23 HE STATES THAT HE HAS COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CHURCH
01:43:28 IMMEDIATELY EAST -- WEST TO THE PROPERTY.
01:43:30 BUT THERE'S ONE THING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO KEEP IN
01:43:33 CONSIDERATION.
01:43:34 THEY ONLY HAVE TEN PARKING SPACES.
01:43:36 AND THEY THEMSELVES WERE AWARDED OR GRANTED A SPECIAL USE IN
01:43:43 A RESIDENTIAL LOT TO ACHIEVE THOSE EXTRA PARKING SPACES THAT
01:43:48 THEY NEEDED.
01:43:49 SO BY ENTERING AN AGREEMENT, THEY COULD BE IN BREACH OF THE
01:43:54 SPECIAL USE THAT THEY WERE GRANTED IN MY MIND.
01:43:56 THIS IS WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THINKS ABOUT.
01:43:58 IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE OPPOSED TO THE BUILDING BEING RENOVATED.
01:44:02 IT JUST GOES AGAINST THE QUALITY OF LIVING THERE.
01:44:04 THERE ARE RESIDENTS WHO LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR
01:44:06 DECADES, AND THEY ENJOY BEING ABLE TO WALK AROUND THEIR
01:44:09 NEIGHBORHOOD, WALK THEIR DOGS.
01:44:11 WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUILDING THAT HAVE SEVERAL
01:44:14 EVENTS, NO MATTER WHAT HOURS ARE DESIGNATED, THE HOURS ARE
01:44:17 NOT EVEN IN QUESTION.
01:44:18 THEY ARE NOT MENTIONED IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE, BUT REGARDLESS
01:44:21 OF THE HOURS, PEOPLE WON'T BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE NEIGHBORHOOD
01:44:25 THAT THEY ENJOY NOW.
01:44:26 IT'S A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:44:27 IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU CAN WALK.
01:44:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
01:44:30 >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
01:44:39 >> HELLO, COUNCIL.
01:44:40 MY NAME IS KERRY WEST.
01:44:41 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
01:44:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
01:44:44 >> GLAD TO BE HERE.
01:44:44 GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY.
01:44:46 ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT MY PROPERTY IS AT 3510 EAST 8th
01:44:51 AVENUE, AND IT BORDERS THIS PROPERTY.
01:44:53 WE SEE RIGHT BEHIND OUR PLACE ON OUR SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS
01:44:57 THE -- WHAT HE CALLS THE WOODED AREA, WHICH REALLY ISN'T
01:45:02 WOODED.
01:45:03 IT'S BAMBOO AND THAT PROPERTY IS ON MY SIDE OF THE STREET.
01:45:06 IT'S ON MY SIDE OF THE FENCE, PUT IT THAT WAY.
01:45:09 I TOUCH AND BORDERING THE AREA THERE.
01:45:12 I AM IN GARY.
01:45:13 I MOVED TO THIS AREA JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND THIS IS
01:45:16 A HISTORIC AREA, AND ALSO, THIS IS THE AREA WHERE OUR WATER
01:45:20 LINE IS RIGHT IN FRONT IS WHERE, OF COURSE, TEDDY ROOSEVELT
01:45:24 HAD WATERED HIS HORSES.
01:45:26 AND THAT'S THE HISTORIC AREA AND HISTORIC HOUSE ALSO IN THE
01:45:31 AREA HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND IN TAMPA.
01:45:33 AND IT IS IN GARY.
01:45:37 WHAT IT IS ALSO IS A VERY HISTORIC AREA AND A LOT OF --
01:45:42 RIGHT IN THE AREA, AROUND OUR AREA IS ALL SURROUNDED BY
01:45:46 SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES.
01:45:47 IT'S NOT MULTIPLE FAMILY, AND IT'S NOT A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL
01:45:50 UNTIL YOU GO BEYOND 35th AVENUE.
01:45:53 36th, EXCUSE ME.
01:45:56 36th.
01:45:56 AND THE AREA THERE IS WHY WE GO THERE IS BECAUSE IT IS A
01:46:00 QUIET AREA.
01:46:01 WE GO THERE FOR A LOT OF OTHER REASONS, BUT ONE OF THE AREAS
01:46:05 OUT THERE IS BECAUSE WE WANT IT TO GROW.
01:46:07 WE WANT IT TO BE SAFE, AND WE ALSO WANT TO GO THROUGH THERE,
01:46:10 AND WE DO KNOW WE DON'T WANT THE -- ABOUT ALL THE NOISE
01:46:15 FACTORING AFTER THE HOURS.
01:46:17 WE LIVED IN SOUTH TAMPA.
01:46:19 WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS AREA BEFORE.
01:46:20 GO IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL, YOURSELVES, AND SAY HERE ARE THE
01:46:23 PROBLEMS GOING WITH THE BARS THAT ARE OVER-TRIGGERING AND
01:46:26 MAKING VENUES THAT SAID THEY WERE VENUES BUT THEY REALLY
01:46:29 TURNED OUT TO BE A PROBLEMSOME AREA.
01:46:31 WHAT WE WANT TO DO UP THERE IS STOP IT BEFORE IT HAPPENS.
01:46:35 INITIALLY WE HEARD THERE WERE GOING TO BE BARS AND/OR
01:46:38 ALCOHOL, NOT BARS, BUT AN ALCOHOL VENUE BECAUSE WHEN
01:46:41 CATERERS COME IN, THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT.
01:46:45 IT IS A FOUR-STORY BUILDING.
01:46:47 WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE?
01:46:48 YOU AREN'T GOING TO HAVE JUST EXACTLY THREE PEOPLE WORKING
01:46:50 THAT WHOLE VENUE. IF YOU HAVE TEN SPACES FOR VEHICLES,
01:46:54 WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO BE COMING IN FROM?
01:46:57 THERE IS NO OTHER AREA TO PARK AT.
01:46:59 YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE AREAS THAT THEY HAVE STRINGENT TO
01:47:02 THE PROPERTY AREA, AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE HAVING AT LEAST TO
01:47:06 MONITOR THE AREA ITSELF BESIDES SECURITY, YOU'LL HAVE TO
01:47:10 HAVE AT LEAST 25 PEOPLE MONITORING THE AREA, SECURING IT, NO
01:47:14 MATTER IF IT'S CHILDREN, NO MATTER IF IT'S YOUNG ADULTS OR
01:47:18 IF YOU HAVE AN AREA OUT THERE, IT'S PEOPLE FIXATING AND ALSO
01:47:22 WORKING TO GO AND TEACH AND MENTOR EVEN IF IT'S STUDENTS OR
01:47:26 ADULTS.
01:47:27 NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IN THAT KIND OF A BUSINESS.
01:47:30 SO, NO, THIS IS NOT -- WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THERE.
01:47:35 IT CAN BE TURNED INTO A FAMILY BECAUSE IT IS ZONED FOR
01:47:38 MULTIFAMILY.
01:47:39 REALLY WANT YOUR CONSIDERATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS GOING
01:47:41 TO BE ANOTHER GROWING AREA OF TAMPA BUT NOT --
01:47:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. WEST.
01:47:48 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:47:48 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME FOR HEARING WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY.
01:47:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
01:47:58 >> EVAN ROSETO.
01:47:59 I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
01:48:01 I LIVE IN THE SOUTH PROPERTY OF THE BUILDING AT 1904, THE
01:48:05 BLUE HOUSE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOS.
01:48:07 I HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE BUILDING.
01:48:11 I SHARE ALL THE SAME CONCERNS AS MY NEIGHBORS AND THE GARY,
01:48:16 THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT, MOST OF ALL, I DON'T
01:48:19 THINK THAT AN EVENT SPACE OR A PLACE THAT CAN BRING IN ALL
01:48:22 SORTS OF STRANGERS ALL THE TIME TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS WHAT
01:48:24 WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
01:48:25 I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MULTIFAMILY THERE.
01:48:27 I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S APPROPRIATE.
01:48:29 THAT'S WHAT IT'S ZONED FOR.
01:48:30 ON TOP OF THAT, THE OWNERS HAVEN'T GIVEN ME A LOT OF FAITH
01:48:33 THAT THEY REALLY DO HAVE OUR BEST INTERESTS IN MIND.
01:48:36 WHEN I SAY THAT, I MEAN THEY -- FOR EXAMPLE, THEY TALKED
01:48:38 ABOUT HAVING THE BUFFER ALREADY IN EXISTENCE ON THE SOUTH
01:48:42 SIDE, WHICH I HAVE THE GREATEST MAJORITY OF PROPERTY LINE
01:48:45 WITH THEM, AND THERE IS NO BUFFER.
01:48:47 I CAN SEE AND HEAR EVERYTHING THEY'RE DOING.
01:48:49 THEY ARE THERE ALMOST EVERY DAY, MOVING EQUIPMENT, LOUD
01:48:53 SOUNDS.
01:48:53 THEY USE IT RIGHT NOW AS A CONSTRUCTION -- THEY USE IT AS A
01:48:58 CONSTRUCTION SUPPLY SITE.
01:48:59 ALL KINDS OF PAVERS.
01:49:00 THERE'S LIKE A DUMP OF WOOD AND MATERIAL.
01:49:03 THERE'S TRASH IN MY YARD.
01:49:04 THERE ARE PIECES OF CONCRETE THAT I FIND IN MY BACKYARD ALL
01:49:07 THE TIME.
01:49:08 THEY JUST HAVEN'T BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS.
01:49:09 THE TIMES THAT I'VE APPROACHED WHATEVER WORKERS ON-SITE,
01:49:12 I'VE ASKED VERY KINDLY OVER THE FENCE AFTER BEING WOKEN UP
01:49:17 BEFORE 7 A.M., CAN YOU GUYS PLEASE KEEP IT DOWN?
01:49:20 THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.
01:49:21 I WAS MET WITH CONDESCENSION AND LAUGHTER.
01:49:24 I WAS TOLD DIRECTLY THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO.
01:49:26 THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
01:49:27 I WANT TO FIX THIS.
01:49:28 I WANT THIS PLACE TO BE FOR FAMILIES, AND I CAME TO THIS
01:49:31 NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I LOVE YBOR CITY, AND I WANT TO
01:49:33 MAINTAIN THE CHARM AND THE BEAUTY AND EVERYTHING THAT I'VE
01:49:37 COME TO LOVE.
01:49:37 I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH EVERYTHING MY NEIGHBORS AND THE
01:49:40 ASSOCIATION HAVE SAID.
01:49:41 THIS IS MY FIRST TIME IN FRONT OF A CITY COUNCIL, AND I
01:49:43 REALLY WANT YOU GUYS TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO
01:49:46 ME TO COME OUT HERE AND SAY THESE THINGS BECAUSE I STRONGLY
01:49:49 BELIEVE THAT BRINGING MORE FAMILIES INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS
01:49:51 WHAT WE NEED AND NOT A RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
01:49:53 THANK YOU.
01:49:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
01:49:56 SWORN IN, MA'AM?
01:50:09 >> HI.
01:50:09 I'M LAUREN McFALL.
01:50:11 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
01:50:12 I LIVE AT 3407 EAST 9th.
01:50:15 I'M NOT AN IMMEDIATE NEIGHBOR SUCH AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER,
01:50:20 BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
01:50:21 THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION OFFERED.
01:50:27 WHAT HAS BEEN OFFERED HAS BEEN VAGUE.
01:50:30 TODAY, IT'S A COMMUNITY CENTER.
01:50:32 THE APPLICATION ITSELF SAYS IT'S A PRIVATE CLUB.
01:50:34 THE SIGN ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH HAS BEEN DOWN FOR SEVERAL
01:50:40 MONTHS, IT IS UP AND IT DOES SHOW A BAR.
01:50:43 MY QUESTION IS, IF IT IS A COMMUNITY CENTER FOR YOUTH, WHY
01:50:47 WOULD THAT INVOLVE AN ALCOHOL LICENSE?
01:50:51 DOES THE ALCOHOL LICENSE TRANSFER IF THE USES WERE CHANGED?
01:50:54 DOES IT TRANSFER WITHOUT REVIEW?
01:50:57 AS FOR OCCUPANCY, IN THE PLANS, DID THE FIRE MARSHAL GIVE
01:51:01 YOU A NUMBER, WHAT THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY IS?
01:51:06 BECAUSE WE CAN'T REALLY ESTIMATE FROM HERE'S OFFICES.
01:51:10 WELL, HOW MANY PEOPLE AT ONE TIME FIT IN THIS PLACE.
01:51:13 THE MAIN REASON, MY LAST, IS SIMPLY THIS.
01:51:16 9th STREET AND 36th, WHAT DOES THE ARTERIAL AND
01:51:22 COLLECTIVE DESIGNATION REALLY MEAN?
01:51:24 9th STREET, AS ADEQUATE AS IT IS FOR LIGHT RESIDENTIAL
01:51:29 TRAFFIC, WITH THE PORTE-COCHERE ON 9th STREET, WHERE DOES
01:51:32 IT COME IN?
01:51:34 WHERE DOES IT GO OUT?
01:51:35 IS IT ONE WAY, TWO WAY?
01:51:36 ARE THEY COMING DOWN 9th STREET?
01:51:39 I'M OPPOSED TO IT AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH
01:51:43 INFORMATION.
01:51:43 ALTHOUGH I DO SHARE THE ENTHUSIASM FOR FIXING THE BUILDING.
01:51:47 THANKS.
01:51:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
01:51:48 ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
01:51:57 HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN, MA'AM?
01:52:05 >> I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
01:52:07 MY NAME IS LOURDES VINAS.
01:52:10 I AM LOOKING AT MYSELF RIGHT NOW.
01:52:11 I LIVE AT 3408 EAST 8th AVENUE, WHICH IS ONE BLOCK TO THE
01:52:17 WEST.
01:52:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU STEP A LITTLE CLOSER?
01:52:20 THANK YOU.
01:52:20 GO AHEAD.
01:52:22 I JUST COULDN'T HEAR YOU.
01:52:23 >> OKAY.
01:52:23 IS THAT BETTER?
01:52:25 OKAY.
01:52:25 I'M STILL LOOKING AT MYSELF, THOUGH.
01:52:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE THE CTTV FOLKS CAN FIX THAT.
01:52:33 >> I'D APPRECIATE IT.
01:52:34 I HAVE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE I WAS A CHILD.
01:52:37 I'VE BEEN THERE IN EXCESS OF FOUR DECADES.
01:52:40 I'VE SEEN A LOT COME AND GO.
01:52:42 I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS BUILDING FIXED UP, BUT I WOULD LIKE
01:52:45 TO SEE IT FIXED UP CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IT'S ALREADY ZONED
01:52:49 FOR, A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING.
01:52:51 IT COULD BE A BEAUTIFUL SET OF LUXURY APARTMENTS.
01:52:54 IT COULD BE MANY THINGS, WHICH WOULD FIT INTO THE CURRENT
01:52:57 ZONING, WOULD FIT INTO THE PLAN FOR THE PARKING SPACES AND
01:53:01 WOULD REALLY ADD TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:53:02 I THINK ITS CURRENT PROPOSED USE IS GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL
01:53:05 TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:53:07 YES, GRANTING PERMISSION FOR THEM TO DO THE THINGS THEY HAVE
01:53:11 DESCRIBED MAY SOUND ALL GOOD AND WELL, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF
01:53:14 ON DAY TWO THEY DECIDE THEY ARE GOING TO HOST A WEDDING
01:53:19 RECEPTION ON FLOOR THREE, A CONCERT ON FLOOR TWO, AND
01:53:23 WHATNOT?
01:53:24 YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING
01:53:27 BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PUT THAT CONDITION ON THEM.
01:53:29 YOU ALSO NOW CANNOT LIMIT THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
01:53:32 SO THESE EVENTS, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE, COULD GO AT ALL HOURS
01:53:37 OF THE DAY AND NIGHT.
01:53:38 I ALSO AM OF THE BELIEF THAT FOR A BUILDING THIS SIZE, THE
01:53:44 TEN SPACES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE, PLUS THE CHURCH'S, IF IT'S
01:53:48 NOT IN VIOLATION OF THEIR SPECIAL USE PERMIT ARE SIMPLY NOT
01:53:52 ENOUGH.
01:53:52 AND PEOPLE HAVE NOWHERE TO GO BUT THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY, WHICH
01:53:55 ARE MAINTAINED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
01:53:58 NOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT IT'S PRETTY HARD TO
01:54:02 MAINTAIN THE GRASS WHEN PEOPLE ARE PARKING ON IT.
01:54:06 ENGINE BURNING, TRACK MARKS, WHATNOT.
01:54:09 NOT TO MENTION TRASH WHEN PEOPLE PARK AT EVENTS AT VENUES,
01:54:15 THEY DO TEND TO THROW THEIR TRASH OUT.
01:54:17 THAT'S NOTHING THE OWNER CAN CONTROL.
01:54:19 WE ALSO HAVE THE ISSUE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A GREAT PLACE
01:54:24 TO WALK.
01:54:25 A GREAT PLACE TO WALK YOUR ANIMALS.
01:54:27 PEOPLE ARE FINALLY CONGREGATING ON THE CORNERS, HEY, HOW ARE
01:54:31 YOU DOING?
01:54:32 HOW IS THE HUSKY?
01:54:33 OH, HE'S GREAT.
01:54:34 HOW IS THE CHIHUAHUA?
01:54:36 BUT WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS.
01:54:37 SO WE HAVE TO DO THIS ALONG THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY.
01:54:41 SINCE THERE IS NO LIMIT ON WHEN AND WHAT EVENTS CAN BE
01:54:45 THERE, WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO?
01:54:48 WALK OUR DOGS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD?
01:54:50 SO, AGAIN, IT ALL SOUNDS REALLY AND GOOD ON DAY ONE.
01:54:54 BUT ONCE THAT SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS GRANTED, YOU'RE NOT
01:54:57 GOING TO TAKE IT BACK BECAUSE THERE'S A WEDDING RECEPTION OR
01:55:04 THERE'S ALCOHOL.
01:55:04 IF IT IS GOING TO BE FOR THE COMMUNITY, I AGREE, WHY DOES IT
01:55:07 HAVE ALCOHOL AT ALL?
01:55:11 MY CONCERN IS, YOU'RE GIVING PERMISSION TO THE LAMB, BUT IT
01:55:16 LEAVES THE WAY OPEN FOR THE LION.
01:55:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
01:55:18 THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
01:55:19 ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
01:55:32 >> NO MORE SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME.
01:55:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
01:55:37 THE APPLICANT -- SORRY.
01:55:44 SOMEBODY ON THE PHONE NOW?
01:55:45 ONE SECOND, MR. POWELL.
01:55:47 WE HAVE ONE PERSON REGISTERED ON THE PHONE.
01:55:52 >>THE CLERK: MR. JOHN COSTIN, IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF,
01:56:02 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
01:56:04 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
01:56:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU.
01:56:10 NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN, CORRECT?
01:56:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS HIS CAMERA ON.
01:56:16 >>THE CLERK: YOU NEED TO ENABLE YOUR VIDEO.
01:56:19 >> I CAN DO A VIDEO.
01:56:20 I'M ON MY iPAD.
01:56:21 IF YOU CAN PICK ME UP.
01:56:26 ARE WE READY FOR A GO?
01:56:32 >>THE CLERK: NO.
01:56:33 WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE YOU.
01:56:35 YOU NEED TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO ICON.
01:56:48 >> HOW ABOUT THAT?
01:56:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, SIR.
01:56:55 >> MR. CHAIR, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
01:56:59 OFFICE.
01:57:00 I BELIEVE, IF I MAY, I BELIEVE HIS NAME WAS MR. COSTIN,
01:57:08 PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT.
01:57:09 THERE'S NO PROVISION THAT HE CAN --
01:57:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME?
01:57:16 THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER, CORRECT?
01:57:26 >> YES.
01:57:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT REQUIRES VIDEO.
01:57:29 THAT'S PART OF THE RULES FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS.
01:57:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT OUR RULES?
01:57:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
01:57:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN WE WAIVE THEM?
01:57:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN.
01:57:38 HERE WE GO.
01:57:42 THANK YOU.
01:57:43 >>THE CLERK: YOU NEED TO UNMUTE YOURSELF, MR. COSTIN.
01:57:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UNMUTE YOURSELF, SIR, AND START OVER.
01:57:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
01:57:58 >>THE CLERK: MR. COSTIN, WE CANNOT HEAR YOU.
01:58:00 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
01:58:01 CLICK ON THE MIKE.
01:58:02 THERE YOU GO.
01:58:03 >> OKAY.
01:58:03 CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
01:58:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE YOU SWORN IN?
01:58:08 NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
01:58:09 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
01:58:11 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT
01:58:13 TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
01:58:16 >> YES, I DO.
01:58:17 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
01:58:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
01:58:20 SIR, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU CAN BEGIN.
01:58:22 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:58:23 MY NAME IS JOHN COSTIN.
01:58:24 I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTY.
01:58:31 I HAVE BEEN IN THE AREA FOR 31 YEARS.
01:58:35 ACTUALLY, WITH THE HELP OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE ECONOMIC
01:58:38 DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION REALLY HELPED ME INITIALLY MOVE IN
01:58:42 HERE.
01:58:42 I'VE SEEN THIS AREA CHANGE QUITE A BIT.
01:58:44 WHEN I FIRST CAME IN HERE, THERE WERE CRACK HOUSES, BURN
01:58:49 HOUSES.
01:58:53 IT WASN'T A VERY GOOD AREA TO LIVE IN, BUT IT HAS CHANGED IN
01:58:57 THE LAST FIVE YEARS OR SO.
01:58:58 IT'S MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE.
01:59:00 IT'S SAFE.
01:59:01 PEOPLE ARE TAKING CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY.
01:59:03 IT'S UPLIFTING.
01:59:06 THE CHURCH, THEY WERE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
01:59:08 AND I HAVE ISSUES WITH THE DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY AS
01:59:14 PUTTING ON EVENTS.
01:59:18 PART OF IT IS PARKING.
01:59:20 THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING THERE.
01:59:21 I KNOW FOR SURE THEY ARE GOING TO PARK IN MY SPACE
01:59:25 AFTERWARDS AND BLOCK MY DRIVEWAY, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY,
01:59:29 WHICH WOULD BE CUMBERSOME FOR ME.
01:59:31 AND THEN ALSO, THE NOISE FACTOR.
01:59:33 I WAS ALSO TOLD THAT THEY ARE GOING TO USE, OPEN UP THE ROOF
01:59:37 AND USE THE EVENTS ON THE ROOF, TOO, WHICH WOULD INCREASE
01:59:41 THE NOISE LEVEL.
01:59:44 SOUND CARRIES.
01:59:46 ON THE WEEKENDS SOMETIMES I HEAR MUSIC ALL THE WAY DOWN IN
01:59:51 YBOR CITY, WHICH IS LIKE 14 BLOCKS AWAY WHERE ALL THE BARS
01:59:55 ARE.
01:59:56 I CAN IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO HEAR THOSE KIND OF
02:00:00 EVENTS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, AND I WOULD HAVE ISSUES WITH
02:00:04 THAT.
02:00:07 I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA THAT THEY ARE RENOVATING THE
02:00:10 BUILDING.
02:00:10 I THINK THE MULTIUSE AS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, A LIVING
02:00:15 SPACE, WOULD BE MUCH MORE CONDUCIVE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD
02:00:18 THAN AN EVENT SPACE.
02:00:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
02:00:24 IS THAT IT, SIR?
02:00:25 >> YEAH, THAT WILL BE IT.
02:00:27 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:00:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
02:00:28 WE'LL GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT.
02:00:33 FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
02:00:37 >> YES.
02:00:37 ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO START, BEFORE I PURCHASED THAT
02:00:41 BUILDING --
02:00:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, EXCUSE ME, MR. POWELL,
02:00:45 SHOULD WE ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE HIS REBUTTAL?
02:00:50 THAT'S WHAT I KNOW MR. SHELBY LIKES BETTER.
02:00:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
02:00:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WAY HE CAN SUM UP AND REBUT AT THE
02:00:56 SAME TIME.
02:00:57 HE CAN HAVE THE LAST WORD.
02:01:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ABSOLUTELY.
02:01:04 THANK YOU.
02:01:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. POWELL, GOOD AFTERNOON.
02:01:07 JUST AS A MATTER OF DISCLOSURE, MR. SHELBY, I'VE KNOWN MR.
02:01:11 POWELL PROFESSIONALLY.
02:01:12 HE WAS MY INSURANCE AGENT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND GOOD GUY.
02:01:17 BUT WITH THAT SAID, I CAN BE COMPLETELY OBJECTIVE IN MY
02:01:23 DECISION MAKING AND IN MY QUESTIONS.
02:01:26 SO WITH THAT SAID -- OH, THE OTHER DISCLOSURE IS I THINK
02:01:31 ABOUT FOUR, FIVE YEARS AGO, AS A REALTOR, I ACTUALLY SOLD
02:01:34 THIS BUILDING FOR THE CHURCH LADIES, NOT TO MR. POWELL, BUT
02:01:39 TO HIS PREDECESSOR PURCHASER.
02:01:42 I CAN'T REMEMBER THE ORGANIZATION THAT FIRST BOUGHT IT FROM
02:01:46 THE CHURCH.
02:01:46 I WAS INVOLVED IN THAT SALE.
02:01:48 AGAIN, THAT HAS NO BEARING ON MY ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN
02:01:52 THIS AT ALL, BECAUSE THAT WAS FOUR, FIVE YEARS AGO.
02:01:55 I'M JUST VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY.
02:01:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
02:01:58 THAT BEING THE CASE, THEN YOU HAVE NO FINANCIAL INTEREST IN
02:02:01 THIS MATTER WHATSOEVER.
02:02:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.
02:02:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BASED UPON WHAT YOU TOLD ME, YOU CAN BE
02:02:06 FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND BASE YOUR DECISION ON THE COMPETENT
02:02:09 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD?
02:02:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TOTALLY.
02:02:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
02:02:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
02:02:15 MY QUESTIONS, CEDRIC, I THINK I MISSED THE VERY BEGINNING OF
02:02:23 THIS PRESENTATION, BUT I HAD HEARD YOU GIVE THIS
02:02:26 PRESENTATION EARLIER.
02:02:29 BUT IN LIGHT OF WHAT YOU'RE HEARING, I GUESS I'M WONDERING
02:02:34 -- AND YOU DON'T EVEN NECESSARILY HAVE TO ANSWER THIS -- BUT
02:02:37 I'M WONDERING FROM A PRACTICAL, FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, WHY
02:02:40 NOT MULTIFAMILY?
02:02:42 THE CURRENT ZONING IS FOR MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL 20.
02:02:46 I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY UNITS THAT COULD ALLOW AS A
02:02:49 POSSIBILITY.
02:02:50 I AM FAMILIAR WITH THIS BUILDING, AND IT HAS A FAIR AMOUNT
02:02:54 OF SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE BUILDING THAT COULD BE BROKEN UP
02:02:57 INTO MULTIFAMILY.
02:02:58 BUT WHY NOT MULTIFAMILY?
02:03:02 THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE.
02:03:04 QUESTION NUMBER TWO IS IT APPEARS TO ME, JUST ANSWER
02:03:08 SOMEBODY'S QUESTION, THAT AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN AND
02:03:10 REDEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE TO PUT IN SIDEWALKS, IS THAT
02:03:12 CORRECT?
02:03:13 >> YES.
02:03:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES NUMBER THREE IS, SOMEBODY SAID YOU
02:03:17 MIGHT BE USING THE ROOF FOR ADDITIONAL RECREATIONAL
02:03:23 PURPOSES, IS THAT IN YOUR PLAN?
02:03:26 >> THAT IS IN THE PLAN.
02:03:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
02:03:28 QUESTION NUMBER FOUR IS, HOURS OF OPERATION.
02:03:34 AGAIN, I CAME IN A LITTLE LATE TO THE DISCUSSION, BUT ARE
02:03:37 YOU PROPOSING ANY SELF-IMPOSED LIMITS IN TERMS OF HOURS OF
02:03:43 OPERATION?
02:03:44 HAS THAT COME UP IN THE DISCUSSION TODAY?
02:03:46 >> YEAH.
02:03:48 I'M IN AGREEANCE WITH THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT WE HAD LAST,
02:03:54 SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, THE 9 P.M. AND THE HOURS WE AGREED
02:03:59 UPON FOR THE WEEKEND ALSO.
02:04:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
02:04:01 I THOUGHT WE DID.
02:04:07 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: IF I MAY.
02:04:08 CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
02:04:10 AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED IN MY OPENING REMARKS -- UPON
02:04:16 FURTHER REVIEW AFTER THE INITIAL REVIEW ON JULY 29 OF 2021,
02:04:21 THE CONDITIONS THAT CITY COUNCIL PLACED ON THE HOURS OF
02:04:24 OPERATION ARE OUTSIDE OF CHAPTER 27 -- REGARDING THE
02:04:31 DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.
02:04:32 AS SUCH, THERE IS NO ENFORCEMENT OF THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
02:04:37 AS SUCH, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS ASKING THAT NO CONDITIONS
02:04:41 BE PLACED REGARDING THE OPERATION OR THE HOURS BE PLACED ON
02:04:46 THE PROPERTY.
02:04:48 THERE IS NO MEANS OF ENFORCEMENT FOR THAT.
02:04:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APOLOGIZE.
02:04:51 LIKE I SAY, I CAME IN LATE AND MISSED THAT.
02:04:53 SO THIS IS NOT THE WET ZONING PROCEDURE THEN.
02:04:57 IS THAT CORRECT?
02:04:59 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THAT IS CORRECT.
02:05:00 WE ARE NOT HERE, MR. DINGFELDER, REGARDING SPECIAL USE 2 FOR
02:05:06 AN ALCOHOL BEVERAGE.
02:05:09 THIS IS ONLY ABOUT THE DESIGNATION OF THE RECREATIONAL
02:05:13 FACILITY PRIVATE.
02:05:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
02:05:15 SO IF THEY WERE TO NEED OR WANT ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON THE
02:05:20 PREMISES, THEY WOULD NEED TO COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL
02:05:25 THROUGH ONE OF THE SPECIAL USE PROCESSES OR NO?
02:05:29 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: WELL, THERE'S A TWO-PART -- THAT'S
02:05:32 A MULTIPLE-FACETED QUESTION.
02:05:34 SO AS PRESENTED TODAY OR WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED IS
02:05:41 HE WANTS TO USE THIS AS A RECREATIONAL PRIVATE FACILITY TO
02:05:43 ALLOW EVENTS AT HIS FACILITY.
02:05:45 AS SUCH, I BELIEVE HE WANTS CATERERS TO BE ABLE TO COME TO
02:05:51 HIS FACILITY.
02:05:51 CATERERS ARE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR OWN LICENSE FOR ALCOHOL.
02:05:55 BUT HE'S WANTING TO HAVE THE PROPERTY -- TO HAVE THEIR OWN
02:06:02 ALCOHOL BEVERAGE LICENSE, THAT IS A SEPARATE PROCESS THAT'S
02:06:05 NOT BEFORE YOU TODAY.
02:06:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
02:06:07 I GOTCHA.
02:06:08 THANK YOU, MADAM ATTORNEY.
02:06:12 SO, CEDRIC, I GUESS THAT JUST BOILS BACK TO THAT ORIGINAL
02:06:16 QUESTION OF WHY NOT MULTIFAMILY?
02:06:19 >> I THINK WITH MULTIFAMILY YOU STILL RUN INTO THE CHALLENGE
02:06:23 WITH PARKING.
02:06:25 IF YOU HAVE TEN UNITS IN THERE, YOU COULD STILL HAVE
02:06:31 COMPLAINTS ABOUT PARKING.
02:06:34 AND THEN I THINK ABOUT MULTIFAMILY, YOU'VE GOT 10 TO 20
02:06:38 PEOPLE CAN USE THE BUILDING.
02:06:39 I WANT THE BUILDING FOR EVERYONE TO USE, WHETHER IT'S THE
02:06:45 LOCAL COMPUTER MENTORS PROGRAM OR THE CHURCH WANT TO DO A
02:06:49 NICE BANQUET THERE.
02:06:50 I WANT IT FOR EVERYONE TO USE, NOT JUST 10 OR 20 RESIDENTS
02:06:54 OF THE BUILDING.
02:06:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
02:06:57 THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
02:06:58 MR. CHAIRMAN, I GUESS HE HAS FIVE MINUTES TO REBUT UNLESS
02:07:03 THERE ARE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
02:07:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
02:07:06 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO ASK THE ATTORNEY A QUESTION, IF I
02:07:09 MAY.
02:07:09 WE SAW MR. GRAY HERE FROM THE URBAN LEAGUE.
02:07:12 OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, I WANT TO ASK AND I GUESS
02:07:16 DISCLOSE, I DON'T THINK THIS IS A CONFLICT.
02:07:17 I'M A MEMBER OF THE URBAN LEAGUE.
02:07:20 I'VE SOLICITED PEOPLE BEFORE TO JOIN THEIR BOARD.
02:07:24 I THINK ONE INDIVIDUAL.
02:07:26 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, DOES THAT RISE TO A LEVEL OF
02:07:30 CONFLICT?
02:07:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE URBAN LEAGUE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING --
02:07:34 THIS IS FOR THE PETITIONER -- THE URBAN LEAGUE DOES NOT HAVE
02:07:37 ANY FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THIS -- FOR THIS APPLICATION, FOR
02:07:41 THIS PROJECT, IS THAT CORRECT?
02:07:43 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
02:07:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THIS
02:07:51 PROJECT AND THE URBAN LEAGUE OTHER THAN THE GENTLEMAN'S
02:07:56 AFFIRMATION OF SUPPORT, IS THAT CORRECT?
02:07:57 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
02:07:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, THEN, SIR, THERE'S NO CONFLICT
02:08:01 WHATSOEVER.
02:08:02 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
02:08:03 WASN'T THE URBAN LEAGUE GOING TO USE THE FACILITY?
02:08:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THIS IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, YOU CAN
02:08:08 INQUIRE AS TO WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE.
02:08:11 BUT THE QUESTION IS, IF SOMEBODY FROM THE PUBLIC OR SOMEBODY
02:08:16 FROM AN ORGANIZATION IS IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING, YOU CAN STILL
02:08:20 BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND BASE YOUR DECISION ON THE
02:08:23 COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD, IS THAT TRUE?
02:08:26 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
02:08:27 JUST OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.
02:08:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THANK YOU FOR THE COLLOQUY.
02:08:31 THANK YOU.
02:08:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
02:08:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS?
02:08:37 I JUST WANT TO VOICE MY CONCERNS.
02:08:40 THIS HISTORIC CIGAR FACTORY HAS BEEN BOUGHT AND SOLD MANY
02:08:48 TIMES.
02:08:48 WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, IT IS A GREAT IDEA, A GREAT CONCEPT.
02:08:53 IT'S GOING TO HELP AN HISTORIC BUILDING.
02:08:57 MY CONCERNS ARE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOISE, AND YOU KEEP
02:09:00 BRINGING UP THE MACHINE FACTORY ACROSS THE STREET OR THE
02:09:04 BUSINESSES UP AND DOWN THE STREET, BUT THOSE BUSINESSES
02:09:10 CLOSE AT 5:00, 6:00, 7:00 AT NIGHT.
02:09:13 YOUR CONCEPT AND IDEA IS GOING TO BE GOING FURTHER INTO THE
02:09:21 EVENING.
02:09:21 NOW, YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT PARKING, WHICH IS A CONCERN OF
02:09:24 MINE, AND YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE USING THE CHURCH
02:09:29 PARKING.
02:09:29 WELL, THAT BUILDING CAN BE BOUGHT AND SOLD ALSO.
02:09:34 IF THAT BUILDING GETS SOLD, ALONG WITH THE PARKING, AND THE
02:09:40 NEW OWNER SAYS, NO, WE DON'T WANT YOU USING THAT BECAUSE
02:09:44 WE'RE GOING TO CONVERT THAT, THERE GOES YOUR PARKING.
02:09:47 WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ALCOHOL SALES HERE.
02:09:54 HOWEVER IN THE FUTURE, IF ONE GOES ALONG WITH THIS PROPERTY,
02:09:57 IT GOES WITH THE PROPERTY FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.
02:10:01 GOING BACK TO PROPERTIES ARE BOUGHT AND SOLD, YOU MAY SELL
02:10:06 THIS PROPERTY AND SOME NEW OWNER MIGHT COME IN AND WANT TO
02:10:09 START A NIGHTCLUB THERE.
02:10:11 SO I HAVE CONCERNS, PARKING, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE
02:10:17 EVENING AFTER THESE OTHER BUSINESSES CLOSE DOWN AND THE
02:10:22 NOISE LEVELS THAT MIGHT INTERFERE WITH THE RESIDENTS AROUND
02:10:25 THE AREA.
02:10:27 SO I'M JUST VOICING MY CONCERNS, AND IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO
02:10:31 THOSE, THAT'S FINE.
02:10:32 BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE MY THOUGHTS ARE AT.
02:10:37 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
02:10:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. POWELL, DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND?
02:10:41 >> YES, I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS, MR. CITRO.
02:10:43 I'LL JUST ADDRESS THE NOISE.
02:10:50 IT FEELS LIKE MOST OF THE COMMENTS WERE AROUND NOISE, AND WE
02:10:54 WOULD BE LUCKY TO HOST ONE OR TWO OR THREE WEDDINGS A MONTH
02:10:58 IN THIS BUILDING.
02:11:04 THERE ARE 30 DAYS IN THE MONTH, WE WOULD BE LUCKY IF WE DID
02:11:07 HOST A WEDDING 10% OF THE TIME IN THE BUILDING.
02:11:09 THE MAJORITY OF THE BUILDING WOULD BE USED AS OFFICE SPACE,
02:11:12 COMMUNITY EVENT SPACE, A USE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE OR WON'T
02:11:16 MAKE A LOT OF NOISE IN THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS.
02:11:20 IT'S EYE OPENING HOW I'M HEARING NOISE, NOISE, NOISE, AND
02:11:27 THE WEEKEND, PER SE, EXISTS OF EIGHT DAYS OUT OF 30 DAYS,
02:11:31 AND WE WOULD BE ASTOUNDINGLY LUCKY IF WE CAN GET THAT MANY
02:11:35 WEDDINGS IN THIS BUILDING.
02:11:38 ALSO, JUST TO THINK OF PARKING.
02:11:44 TO THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF 36th STREET EXISTS A HUGE
02:11:49 COMMERCIAL OPERATION.
02:11:50 SO I'VE BEEN IN TALKS WITH THE OWNER OF THAT IN TERMS OF
02:11:54 ALSO BEING AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE DID HAVE A SIZABLE CHURCH
02:12:00 REVIVAL OR BANQUET OF SOME SORT, BEING ABLE TO BE A VALET,
02:12:08 USE THE PARKING TO THE NORTHEAST.
02:12:10 I'VE ALSO BEEN IN COMMUNICATION, IN CONTACT WITH THE ROOFING
02:12:14 COMPANY TO THE SOUTHEAST ABOUT USE OF THE PARKING.
02:12:20 AND MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERY FAVORABLE TO WHAT'S
02:12:24 GOING ON.
02:12:26 QUITE FRANKLY, JUST THINKING ABOUT THE LETTERS, EVEN WHEN
02:12:29 TALKING TO MY NEIGHBOR WHO TODAY CAME UP AND OPPOSED, WHEN
02:12:33 WE TALKED, HE WAS PRETTY POSITIVE ABOUT IT.
02:12:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CITRO HAS ONE OTHER QUESTION.
02:12:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DIDN'T WANT TO CUT HIM OFF, MR. CHAIR AND
02:12:42 MR. MIRANDA.
02:12:44 I SHOULD HAVE SPECIFIED WHEN I SAID NOISE.
02:12:46 IT WASN'T A NOISE COMING FROM THE BUILDING.
02:12:48 TO MR. GRAY'S POINT ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN SOUTH TAMPA,
02:12:52 ESPECIALLY WITH VALET, ESPECIALLY WITH HOURS OF OPERATIONS,
02:12:56 IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE NOISE IN THE ESTABLISHMENT.
02:13:01 IT'S THE PEOPLE LEAVING THE ESTABLISHMENTS AND GOING TO
02:13:05 THEIR CARS THAT MAY BE ON THE SIDE STREETS, THAT MAY BE
02:13:09 VALETED TO FURTHER AWAY.
02:13:12 IT'S THE AFTER-HOUR NOISE THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.
02:13:17 AGAIN, THIS ICONIC CIGAR FACTORY THAT HAS A RICH HISTORY OF
02:13:23 HUNDREDS OF WORKERS WALKING IN AND OUT OF EACH AND EVERY
02:13:26 DAY, I WANT TO SEE REJUVENATED, NEW LIFE PUT INTO IT.
02:13:32 >> THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
02:13:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BUT, EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIR, HOWEVER, I DON'T
02:13:37 WANT IT TO HAVE TO AFFECT THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE
02:13:41 24/7/365.
02:13:43 SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.
02:13:45 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
02:13:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MIRANDA, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR
02:13:49 COMMENT?
02:13:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:13:50 I'VE HEARD A GENTLEMAN COME UP AND SAY JUST LIKE WE DID ON
02:13:54 BAYSHORE.
02:13:55 WELL, LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT BAYSHORE.
02:13:57 THIS COUNCILMAN VOTED AGAINST IT.
02:13:59 I VOTED AGAINST BAYSHORE BECAUSE IN MY OPINION THEN AND
02:14:04 TODAY, I STILL THINK IT WAS WRONG TO PUT A CLUB ON BAYSHORE
02:14:08 BACKING UP TO A NEIGHBORHOOD -- A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:14:11 NUMBER ONE.
02:14:12 NUMBER TWO, WHEN YOU HAVE -- AND THIS STARTED OUT IN ALCOHOL
02:14:16 ZONINGS.
02:14:17 IT WAS NEVER DONE PRIMARILY FOR BUILDINGS.
02:14:19 JUST ALCOHOL ZONINGS, WHEN YOU STARTED BRINGING IN, IN SOUTH
02:14:22 TAMPA, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING.
02:14:24 SO THEY WOULD WANT A LOUNGE, BAR, RESTAURANT.
02:14:29 TWO BLOCKS AWAY, WE'RE GOING TO LEASE THIS.
02:14:31 THAT'S WHAT STARTED THE WHOLE THING.
02:14:33 I SAID THEN, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WHEREVER THEY ARE RUNNING
02:14:38 FROM, IT WILL BE TAKEN UP BY SOME OTHER PERSONS WHO WANTS TO
02:14:41 BUILD SOMETHING, WHETHER AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, HOTEL, OR
02:14:44 TWO-CAR GARAGE, WHATEVER IT IS, WHAT HAPPENS THEN?
02:14:47 THAT PERSON WHO GOT WHATEVER IT WAS AT THAT TIME BASED ON
02:14:51 THE AVAILABILITY OF THE LOT.
02:14:53 THAT LOT IS GONE NOW.
02:14:54 SO WHAT DO WE DO?
02:14:56 WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU DID IT.
02:14:59 SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS TO ME, WHEN YOU HAVE TO LEASE
02:15:02 SOMETHING AND YOU HAVE TO FIND THINGS TO SATISFY THE MEANS
02:15:05 OF WHICH ANYONE WANTS TO GET INVOLVED IN, THAT THROWS UP A
02:15:09 THOUSAND RED FLAGS IN MY HEAD.
02:15:10 I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU, SIR.
02:15:13 I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID.
02:15:15 WHAT ARE WE DOING?
02:15:17 THE WINDOWS SHOULD BE INSTALLED TO STOP SOME NOISE.
02:15:20 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN INSTALL WINDOWS IN A BUILDING THAT'S
02:15:25 ANTIQUATED TO THAT HISTORICAL DESIGNATION.
02:15:28 I THINK YOU HAVE TO INSTALL THE REGULAR WINDOWS.
02:15:30 I'M NOT SURE.
02:15:31 I'M NOT TELLING YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO, BUT
02:15:34 I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS THE CASE.
02:15:38 IF THAT IS THE CASE, THAT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE NOISE.
02:15:42 SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, TREE BUFFERS, PARKING, TEN SPACES,
02:15:49 AND I THINK YOU NEEDED 40.
02:15:53 WHAT DOES THAT TELL ME?
02:15:54 LET'S GO BACK IN HISTORY.
02:15:57 MARK MY WORDS, EVERY CIGAR FACTORY THAT WAS BUILT NEVER,
02:16:02 EVER WAS ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT PARKING.
02:16:04 YOU KNOW WHY?
02:16:05 BECAUSE NO EMPLOYEE HAD A CAR.
02:16:07 AND THEY LIVED RIGHT THERE.
02:16:09 THEY WORKED RIGHT THERE.
02:16:10 THEY TAKE THEIR LUNCH, EAT THEIR LUNCH AND GO BACK TO WORK.
02:16:14 IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL THING UNTIL AUTOMOBILES WERE INVENTED AND
02:16:17 SCREWED UP THE WHOLE THING.
02:16:20 WHAT HAPPENED, HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF EVERY SINGLE DAY.
02:16:24 YOU JUST HAVE TO LIVE LONG ENOUGH.
02:16:26 THANK YOU, GOD.
02:16:26 WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I WANT TO HELP, BUT THE PETITIONER
02:16:31 HIMSELF HAS SAID THAT HE KNEW WHEN HE BOUGHT THE PLACE THAT
02:16:35 THEY ONLY HAD TEN SPACES OF PARKING.
02:16:37 IN THE BEGINNING, YOU SAID, YES, THERE WERE TEN SPACES WHEN
02:16:40 I BOUGHT THE PLACE.
02:16:41 AM I CORRECT?
02:16:44 >> WELL, BASED ON OUR DRAWINGS, WE CREATED TEN BECAUSE I HAD
02:16:48 COMMUNICATION WITH THE CHURCH TO USE THEIR PARKING, AND I
02:16:51 KNOW EARLIER THEY MENTIONED THE CHURCH HAD TEN PARKING
02:16:55 SPOTS.
02:16:56 BASED ON HOW YOU PARK, YOU COULD GET MORE THAN THAT.
02:16:59 ALSO, I HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OWNER OF THE DAY CARE,
02:17:03 THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING, THE ROOFING COMPANY ON THE
02:17:08 SOUTHEAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING AS WELL AS THE COMMERCIAL
02:17:11 BUILDING ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE AT 36th STREET, WITH ALL OF
02:17:16 THOSE, WE DESIGNED OUR PARKING TO KEEP THE HISTORICAL
02:17:19 DESIGNATION.
02:17:20 SO PART OF OUR LIMITATION WAS WANTING TO KEEP THE HISTORICAL
02:17:24 DESIGNATION AND NOT HAVING TO TEAR DOWN 111-YEAR-OLD
02:17:28 BUILDING, WHICH ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD
02:17:30 OF GARY SPECIAL.
02:17:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
02:17:32 AS OUR CHAIRMAN WOULD SAY, LET'S TRY AND BRING THIS IN FOR A
02:17:36 LANDING.
02:17:36 DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SO HE CAN WRAP UP?
02:17:39 MR. CARLSON.
02:17:39 >>BILL CARLSON: IS IT STILL POSSIBLE TO ASK LEGAL A
02:17:42 QUESTION?
02:17:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
02:17:43 GO AHEAD, BILL.
02:17:46 >>BILL CARLSON: THE QUESTION IS, JUST TO REITERATE, YOU KIND
02:17:50 OF COVERED THIS EARLIER, WE CANNOT IN THIS PROCEEDING ADD
02:17:55 ANY HOURS OF OPERATION OR SOUND REQUIREMENTS, IS THAT
02:17:57 CORRECT?
02:17:58 WE CANNOT?
02:17:59 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY
02:18:00 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
02:18:02 YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
02:18:03 YOU CANNOT PLACE OPERATIONAL CONDITIONS ON A SPECIAL USE
02:18:08 APPLICATION.
02:18:09 AND I BELIEVE MR. COTTON CAN PROVIDE SOME FURTHER
02:18:12 INFORMATION.
02:18:15 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
02:18:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, WAIT A SECOND.
02:18:18 SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
02:18:19 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER MR. COTTON WANTS TO SPEAK.
02:18:21 MR. COTTON, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY TO FOLLOW UP TO
02:18:25 THAT?
02:18:26 >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
02:18:28 I WANTED TO MAKE STATEMENTS REGARDING SOME OF THE DISCUSSION
02:18:30 THAT'S TAKEN PLACE, REGARDING PARKING, ALCOHOL SALES,
02:18:33 MULTIFAMILY USE.
02:18:36 A LOT OF TOPICS TOUCHED ON, I WANT TO ADDRESS, IF I CAN
02:18:39 ADDRESS ALL OF THEM IN ABOUT TWO MINUTES.
02:18:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GO AHEAD.
02:18:43 >>ERIC COTTON: MULTIFAMILY USE, RM-16, LAND USE IS R-20.
02:18:47 DEPENDENT UPON PARKING AVAILABLE, THEORETICALLY THE DENSITY
02:18:52 ON THAT PROPERTY COULD BE UP TO SIX UNITS.
02:18:55 SIX UNITS IF THEY WERE ALL, ASSUMING TWO-FAMILY UNITS,
02:18:59 YOU'RE REQUIRED TWO SPACES -- ONE -- TWO SPACES -- YOU NEED
02:19:04 ABOUT 14 PARKING SPACES.
02:19:06 THE TEN MIGHT BE ABLE TO FUNCTION DEPENDING ON HOW THE
02:19:09 INSIDE IS LAID OUT AND ALL AND HOW MANY UNITS ARE ACTUALLY
02:19:12 PROPOSED.
02:19:13 REGARDING THE PARKING ISSUE, AS OF RIGHT NOW, RECREATIONAL
02:19:18 FACILITY REQUIRES FIVE PARKING SPACES PER 1,000 SQUARE FEET
02:19:21 OF GROSS FLOOR AREA.
02:19:23 OVERALL, THAT BUILDING NEEDS 48 PARKING SPACES AS ONE OF THE
02:19:26 REVIEWED SU-1.
02:19:28 HE HAS 10.
02:19:30 HE APPLIED FOR A PARKING WAIVER.
02:19:32 THAT REQUEST WAS DENIED.
02:19:34 IF HE IS PROPOSING TO USE OFF-SITE PARKING AS PART OF A
02:19:38 REQUIREMENT FOR THE -- TO MEET THE REQUIRED PARKING, HE
02:19:42 WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR A NEW DESIGN EXCEPTION AND PRESENT
02:19:45 LEASES TO THE CITY THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE LEGAL
02:19:49 DEPARTMENT.
02:19:49 EACH LEASE HAS TO BE I BELIEVE A MINIMUM OF TEN YEARS, TO
02:19:52 SHARE WHAT THE PARKING IS, WHEN THE PARKING IS AVAILABLE.
02:19:56 LIKE, IF HE'S USING PARKING AT THE CHURCH AND THE CHURCH IS
02:19:59 IN OPERATION ON SUNDAY MORNINGS, HE CAN'T HAVE HIS BUSINESS
02:20:03 OPERATING ON SUNDAY MORNINGS BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE A
02:20:06 CONFLICT IN THE PARKING, AND PARKING WOULDN'T BE AVAILABLE
02:20:09 FOR THE RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
02:20:10 THE LAST COMMENT ABOUT THE ALCOHOL, AND I KNOW THAT WAS A
02:20:15 COMPARISON MADE TO I BELIEVE THE STOVALL ON BAYSHORE, OR THE
02:20:19 CLUB THAT PEOPLE WERE REFERRING TO, RIGHT NOW WITH THE RM 16
02:20:22 ZONING, HE CAN'T APPLY FOR ALCOHOL.
02:20:25 RM 16 DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ALCOHOL SALES.
02:20:28 HE WOULD HAVE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO A PLANNED
02:20:30 DEVELOPMENT, SORT OF LIKE WHAT WAS DONE WITH THE OTHER CLUB
02:20:33 THAT WAS REFERENCED.
02:20:34 COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR REZONING AND THEN COME TO COUNCIL
02:20:37 FOR THE ALCOHOL REQUEST.
02:20:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
02:20:40 THANK YOU, MR. COTTON.
02:20:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. COTTON, ONE QUESTION.
02:20:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOLD ON, MR. MIRANDA.
02:20:47 MR. VIERA IS NEXT.
02:20:48 UNLESS MR. SHELBY NEEDED TO JUMP IN.
02:20:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOLLOW UP AND ADDRESS COUNCIL.
02:20:56 ULTIMATELY, AND A REMINDER THAT WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY IS
02:21:01 GOVERNED BY SPECIFIC SECTIONS OF THE CODE, AND THE GENERAL
02:21:07 STANDARDS OF 27-129.
02:21:09 THAT'S UPON WHICH YOU HAVE TO APPLY THE FACTS TO SEE WHETHER
02:21:14 THE BURDEN HAS BEEN MET.
02:21:17 SO I JUST ASK YOU TO REFER TO THE RULES THEMSELVES AND THE
02:21:21 FACTS YOU FIND THEM TO MAKE A DETERMINATION BASED ON THE
02:21:24 EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD.
02:21:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. VIERA.
02:21:25 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
02:21:27 I APPRECIATE IT.
02:21:27 JUST VERY, VERY BRIEFLY, WITH MR. POWELL, WHEN I LOOK AT
02:21:32 THIS CASE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE KNOWN AND THEN THERE
02:21:35 ARE THINGS UNKNOWN.
02:21:36 THE UNKNOWN TROUBLES ME.
02:21:37 THE KNOWN GIVES ME COMFORT.
02:21:40 BUT THE UNKNOWN IS AN ISSUE.
02:21:42 WHAT WE KNOW IS MR. POWELL'S INTENTION WITH THIS BUILDING IS
02:21:48 TO CALL IT LAUDABLE, I MEAN, WE'VE ALL -- HIS INTENT HAS
02:21:54 BEEN STATED, WHICH HAS BEEN REFLECTED IN THE MEDIA BEFORE,
02:21:58 AND TO CALL IT LAUDABLE IS A HECK OF AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
02:22:02 THE CHALLENGE COMES WITH WHAT RUNS WITH THAT LAND.
02:22:07 THAT'S WHY I'M TORN ON THIS ONE.
02:22:09 BUT MR. POWELL'S INTENTION WITH THIS IS REALLY REMARKABLE IN
02:22:14 THE SENSE THAT THIS IS A GENTLEMAN WHO BY ALL APPEARANCES
02:22:18 DOING SOMETHING WITH AN HISTORIC BUILDING WITH REGARDS TO
02:22:22 HIS INTENT AS I UNDERSTAND IT WE SHOULD ALL BE APPLAUDING,
02:22:25 THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE APPLAUDING.
02:22:26 IT'S REALLY A GOOD THING.
02:22:27 AGAIN, THE UNKNOWN IS TROUBLING ME.
02:22:29 AS FOR ME, I'M TORN.
02:22:32 JUST MY COMMENTS.
02:22:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. VIERA.
02:22:34 MR. MIRANDA.
02:22:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CHANGED MY MIND.
02:22:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO QUESTION RIGHT NOW.
02:22:38 ALL RIGHT.
02:22:38 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A TIGHT FIVE-MINUTE
02:22:42 WRAP-UP.
02:22:42 MR. CARLSON.
02:22:43 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST ASK, USUALLY IN OTHER KINDS OF
02:22:46 HEARINGS AT THIS POINT, WE SOMETIMES ASK THE ATTORNEYS TO
02:22:51 LET THE APPLICANT OR HEARING PERSON KNOW WHAT THEIR OPTIONS
02:22:56 ARE.
02:22:57 IN THIS CASE, THERE'S NO CHOICE, WE HAVE TO VOTE UP OR DOWN
02:23:00 TONIGHT.
02:23:01 WE CAN'T CONTINUE, RIGHT?
02:23:04 AND IF THIS IS VOTED -- IF THIS IS UPHELD TODAY, IS THE
02:23:08 APPLICANT STILL ABLE TO COME BACK RIGHT AWAY FOR THE PD
02:23:11 APPLICATION?
02:23:14 OR IS THERE SOME PERIOD HE HAS TO WAIT?
02:23:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF IT'S DENIED?
02:23:19 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH.
02:23:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN ADDRESS THAT.
02:23:27 THERE HAS BEEN NO REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE.
02:23:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE COULD BE.
02:23:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD BE.
02:23:31 HE DOES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT.
02:23:33 HE HASN'T GIVEN HIS FIVE-MINUTE REBUTTAL YET.
02:23:36 THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE BASIS OF THE CONTINUANCE AND
02:23:38 WHY WOULD THE COUNCIL GRANT IT, OBVIOUSLY?
02:23:41 BUT ALSO WITH REGARDS TO THE RAMIFICATIONS, THAT'S NOT
02:23:47 RELEVANT TO THE DECISION, RESPECTFULLY, TO COUNCIL.
02:23:49 THIS EITHER MEETS THE CRITERIA BASED ON THE COMPETENT,
02:23:51 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE OR IT DOES NOT.
02:23:54 AND ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHAT THE COURT IS GOING TO LOOK TO,
02:23:57 AND THAT'S FRANKLY UPON WHICH YOU SHOULD BASE YOUR DECISION.
02:24:05 IF YOU'RE CURIOUS AS TO THAT, I WOULD BE CONCERN AS TO ITS
02:24:09 EFFECT ON THE RECORD OF THIS HEARING.
02:24:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THOSE ARE WISE WORDS.
02:24:13 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO INTO FINAL REBUTTAL BY THE
02:24:18 PETITIONER?
02:24:19 ALL RIGHT.
02:24:19 MR. POWELL, YOU'VE GOT FIVE MINUTES, AND AS MR. CARLSON
02:24:25 SAID, IF THERE'S A REASON WHY YOU'D WANT TO ASK FOR A
02:24:30 CONTINUANCE, THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE.
02:24:32 >> I THINK JUST MY PURCHASE OF THE BUILDING HAS IMPROVED THE
02:24:37 NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:24:37 BEFORE I BOUGHT THE BUILDING, THERE WERE 15 MATTRESSES,
02:24:41 DRESSERS, TRASH, LITTER ON THE SIDE OF THE CIGAR FACTORY.
02:24:46 AND EVEN AFTER PURCHASE, EVEN AFTER I CLEANED THE AREA UP,
02:24:50 EVERY OTHER WEEK I WOULD HAVE TO BRING A DUMPSTER TO CLEAN
02:24:54 THIS SITE UP.
02:24:56 VIRTUALLY IN THE LAST THREE TO FIVE YEARS, NOTHING WAS GOING
02:25:01 ON, EVEN JUST TO CUT THE GRASS THERE.
02:25:04 JUST DOING THAT, JUST BEING WILLING TO KEEP THE EXTERIOR
02:25:09 CLEAN HAS IMPROVED THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ONE.
02:25:12 NUMBER TWO, JUST THINKING ABOUT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING,
02:25:20 WILLING TO SELF-IMPOSE THE HOURS OF LIMITATION OF OPERATION
02:25:23 TO MAKE SURE THERE IS AN AWESOME RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
02:25:29 COMMUNITY.
02:25:30 LIKE I PREVIOUSLY STATED WITH PASTOR RICHARDSON TO MY WEST
02:25:36 AND MR. BOW TO MY DIRECT NORTH, PHENOMENAL RELATIONSHIP.
02:25:43 I TALK TO THEM WEEKLY WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THERE.
02:25:46 THEY ARE HAPPY.
02:25:47 ANOTHER THING, APPLYING FOR THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION, MOST
02:25:51 OF THE PEOPLE THAT I SPOKE TO, ESPECIALLY LEGAL COUNSEL,
02:25:55 THEY SAID YOU WOULD BE LIMITING YOURSELF BY DOING THAT, AND
02:26:00 I TOLD THEM MY GOAL IS TO KEEP THIS BUILDING, THE FABRIC THE
02:26:05 WAY IT IS AND FOR IT TO BE A BUILDING WHERE EVERYONE IN THE
02:26:11 COMMUNITY CAN ENJOY.
02:26:17 YES, WE WOULD LOVE TO HOST LOTS OF WEDDINGS THERE.
02:26:19 IN REALITY, WE WOULD BE LUCKY IF WE HAD TWO OR THREE
02:26:22 WEDDINGS THERE A MONTH.
02:26:23 FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S GOING TO BE A BUILDING WHERE IT'S
02:26:26 USED FOR OFFICE SPACE AND COMMUNITY SPACE.
02:26:29 IT'S GOING TO BE THE 95 PERCENTILE USE OF THIS BUILDING.
02:26:33 THE BUILDING IS 111 YEARS OLD.
02:26:36 THE WALLS ARE EXTREMELY THICK.
02:26:39 THIS BUILDING IS BUILT TO WITHSTAND EVERYTHING.
02:26:44 JUST THE WAY THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IS A NATURAL SOUND
02:26:48 BARRIER ITSELF ON THAT.
02:26:50 SO MY GOAL, LIKE I MENTIONED, I'M BORN AND RAISED HERE IN
02:26:54 TAMPA.
02:26:55 I'M A GRADUATE OF ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL.
02:26:58 MY DAD GRADUATED FROM MIDDLETON.
02:27:00 MY MOM GRADUATED FROM MIDDLETON ALSO, AND THIS IS MY HOME.
02:27:07 I ONLY LEFT TO GO PLAY COLLEGE BASKETBALL FOR FOUR YEARS AND
02:27:10 I'VE BEEN BACK IN TAMPA SUPPORTING AS MANY ORGANIZATIONS AS
02:27:16 POSSIBLE.
02:27:17 BUT I'M HERE TO HELP AND WILLING TO DO GOOD AND PAY IT
02:27:21 FORWARD.
02:27:22 LOTS OF ORGANIZATIONS HAVE HELPED MOLD ME INTO THE
02:27:26 INDIVIDUAL I AM TODAY, BUT THIS IS MY OPPORTUNITY TO PAY IT
02:27:29 FORWARD.
02:27:29 I SPOKE TO MANY ORGANIZATIONS ABOUT HELPING THEM WITH SPACES
02:27:33 FOR WHETHER IT'S MEETINGS OR WHETHER IT'S NIGHTLY TRAINING
02:27:40 PROGRAMS.
02:27:41 THIS BUILDING IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE ENTIRE GARY
02:27:47 COMMUNITY.
02:27:47 THANK YOU.
02:27:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
02:27:51 WE APPRECIATE THAT.
02:27:52 YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.
02:27:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:27:57 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
02:27:59 JUST ONE REMINDER AGAIN THAT WITH REGARD TO THIS ITEM THAT
02:28:03 ANY REPRESENTATIONS MADE, UNLESS IT'S SOMEHOW ENFORCEABLE,
02:28:11 IT WOULD STAY ON THE LAND, WHICH WHAT I'M BASICALLY SAYING
02:28:14 IS JUST PLEASE BE REMINDED THAT THE REQUEST THAT YOU'VE
02:28:20 GOTTEN WITH REGARD TO THE CONDITIONS THAT MS. PETTIS-MACKLE
02:28:25 HAD INSTRUCTED COUNCIL.
02:28:27 THANK YOU.
02:28:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN OTHER WORDS.
02:28:28 WHEN HE SPOKE TO SELF-IMPOSING THE HOURS, HE MEANS
02:28:31 SELF-IMPOSING IT, BUT IT'S NOTHING THE CITY CAN PUT IN
02:28:35 WRITING AND IMPOSE.
02:28:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THE BUSINESS SHOULD CHANGE OWNERSHIP,
02:28:38 THERE'S NO OBLIGATION FOR THE NEW OWNER TO ABIDE BY THE
02:28:41 CONDITIONS THAT WERE EXPRESSED TODAY, THAT ARE NOT
02:28:43 ENFORCEABLE.
02:28:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
02:28:45 IT'S APPROPRIATE TO CLOSE AT THIS TIME.
02:28:49 >> SO MOVED.
02:28:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION AND SECOND TO CLOSE.
02:28:51 MR. MANISCALCO AND MR. CITRO.
02:28:58 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
02:28:59 OPPOSED?
02:29:00 ALL RIGHT.
02:29:01 WE'RE CLOSED.
02:29:02 DISCUSSION OR A MOTION -- AND/OR A MOTION?
02:29:05 BECAUSE THE CHAIRMAN WILL REMAIN QUIET FOR A CHANGE, HOW'S
02:29:18 THAT?
02:29:22 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M NOT READY TO MAKE A MOTION.
02:29:24 I JUST, AGAIN, WANT TO REITERATE THE KNOWNS AND THE UNKNOWNS
02:29:28 ON THIS CASE.
02:29:30 IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, THEN, THAT THIS USE DOES NOT
02:29:35 CONTEMPLATE, ALCOHOL, CORRECT?
02:29:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN NECESSARILY
02:29:39 SAY THAT.
02:29:41 AT THIS TIME, THE PERMIT IS NOT FOR ALCOHOL.
02:29:44 BUT WHEN WE ASKED THE QUESTION, THERE WAS A RESPONSE, I
02:29:46 THINK, FROM LEGAL WHICH SAID IF THEY BROUGHT IN A CATERER
02:29:50 WHO HAS THEIR OWN LICENSE, THEN THERE COULD BE ALCOHOL AT
02:29:53 THAT PARTY.
02:29:54 I THINK THAT'S THE ANSWER WE HEARD, MR. SHELBY.
02:29:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WANT TO REOPEN THE HEARING AND HEAR
02:29:59 IT FOR YOURSELF.
02:30:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. VIERA, THAT'S WHAT I RECALL.
02:30:03 DO YOU WANT THAT CLARIFICATION FROM LEGAL?
02:30:10 >>LUIS VIERA: NO, THAT'S FINE.
02:30:11 THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH MY UNDERSTANDING.
02:30:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
02:30:16 >>LUIS VIERA: I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT THERE.
02:30:20 I'M TORN ON THIS.
02:30:23 I'M JUST BEING VERY HONEST.
02:30:24 WE HAVE A PERSON HERE, MR. POWELL, IS TO CALL HIM A STELLAR
02:30:29 CITIZEN FOR DOING WHAT HE'S DONE IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
02:30:34 HE WANT TO MEET HIM HALFWAY THERE, BUT THE ISSUE IS DO WE
02:30:39 MEET HIM HALFWAY TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE COMMUNITY?
02:30:42 TO THE EXTENT THERE'S DETRIMENT, IF HE WERE TO CONTINUE TO
02:30:44 KEEP THIS BUILDING, I BELIEVE THERE WOULD BE NO DETRIMENT
02:30:47 WHATSOEVER.
02:30:48 BY VOTING TO OVERTURN, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A LEAP OF FAITH
02:30:55 WITH HIM.
02:30:56 AND THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT COUNCIL HAS.
02:30:58 I DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY GUIDANCE, BUT A LOT OF THOUGHTS.
02:31:04 THANK YOU.
02:31:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR A MOTION?
02:31:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED SAMPLE
02:31:17 MOTIONS.
02:31:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE SAMPLE MOTIONS.
02:31:22 IF COUNCIL IS NOT READY FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU THINK A
02:31:25 CONTINUANCE WOULD BE IN ORDER, YOU COULD GO THAT ROUTE, TOO.
02:31:28 >>BILL CARLSON: I CAN TRY ONE, BUT I NEED SOMEBODY TO HELP
02:31:31 ME WITH THE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
02:31:34 LET'S TRY THIS.
02:31:35 I MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE DENIAL.
02:31:41 I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF
02:31:45 SPECIAL USE 1 APPLICATION BECAUSE PETITIONER HAS
02:31:47 DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PETITION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
02:31:51 APPLICABLE GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-132 AND
02:31:56 27-129.
02:32:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS EITHER OF THE
02:32:03 SPECIFIC REASONS THAT THE STAFF REJECTED IT, THAT WAS THE
02:32:11 ACCESS TO THE LOCAL ROAD WAS NUMBER ONE.
02:32:14 AND NUMBER TWO WAS PARKING.
02:32:20 PARKING AND LOADING AREAS WITHIN 25 FEET OF RESIDENTIAL
02:32:23 SINGLE-FAMILY.
02:32:23 ANY FACTS TO TAKE YOU TO YOUR CONCLUSION ON THOSE ISSUES?
02:32:29 >>BILL CARLSON: SOMEBODY ELSE COULD PROBABLY SAY THIS MORE
02:32:32 ELOQUENTLY.
02:32:33 BUT THE PROPERTY IS AT AN URBAN AREA, AREA THAT IS -- MAKES
02:32:39 IT URBAN AND HOUSING.
02:32:43 AND THAT AREA IS QUICKLY -- IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING
02:32:48 IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, THAT AREA IS QUICKLY DEVELOPING AS
02:32:51 URBAN AREA.
02:32:52 URBAN AREAS, PARKING IS HANDLED IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
02:32:57 THE SAME THING WITH TRAFFIC.
02:33:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHERE WAS THE SECOND?
02:33:03 MR. VIERA.
02:33:04 ALL RIGHT.
02:33:04 I'M GOING TO ADD IN REGARD TO 36th AND OTHER PEOPLE
02:33:08 PROBABLY KNOW IT BETTER THAN I DO.
02:33:12 EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT BE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED LOCAL, IT
02:33:15 GOES UNDER THE INTERSTATE, AND IT HAS A TRAFFIC LIGHT DOWN
02:33:20 AT THE BOTTOM, WHATEVER THAT CROSS STREET IS, ADAMO OR 7th
02:33:28 OR WHATEVER.
02:33:29 ANYWAYS, THAT'S A PRETTY BIG STREET FOR BEING A LOCAL ROAD.
02:33:32 NOT TO SAY THAT I'M NECESSARILY GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
02:33:35 ALL RIGHT.
02:33:36 WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
02:33:38 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
02:33:39 MY ONLY DISCUSSION IS THIS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE
02:33:44 MOTION, AND I APOLOGIZE TO MR. POWELL FOR NOT SUPPORTING IT.
02:33:48 THE REASON BEING, IF WE COULD MAKE THIS CASE, AS MR. VIERA
02:33:52 SAID, IF WE COULD MAKE THIS CASE AND BIND MR. POWELL TO
02:33:57 THIS, THEN I WOULD VOTE YES.
02:34:00 BUT THAT'S NOT THE WAY LAND USE WORKS.
02:34:02 THIS LAND USE RUNS WITH THE LAND FOREVER AND ALWAYS.
02:34:05 SO NO MATTER WHAT, AT THIS POINT, IF WE APPROVE IT, IT IS A
02:34:09 PRIVATE RECREATIONAL USE, AND THAT HAS A LOT OF
02:34:13 RAMIFICATIONS AS RELATED TO PARKING AND NOISE AND TRAFFIC
02:34:22 AND ET CETERA.
02:34:23 BECAUSE OF THAT, I TOTALLY TRUST MR. POWELL TO DO EXACTLY
02:34:28 WHAT HE SAID.
02:34:28 IF HE'S SUCCESSFUL, I KNOW HE WILL.
02:34:30 BUT THAT'S NOT -- APPROVAL OF THIS IS NOT ABOUT MR. POWELL.
02:34:36 IT'S ABOUT THE LAND, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
02:34:39 BASED UPON THE FACTS, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.
02:34:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MIRANDA, FIRST.
02:34:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:34:47 I NEVER HAD A PERSONAL ADMIRATION FOR SOMEBODY.
02:34:51 I HEARD OF MR. POWELL, BUT I NEVER HAD A BUSINESS TO DO A
02:34:55 HAND SHAKE THAT I CAN RECALL.
02:34:57 HE SEEMS TO BE A VERY CORDIAL INDIVIDUAL.
02:35:00 AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WHAT HE SAYS HE DOES.
02:35:04 BUT HERE AGAIN, IT'S NOT ABOUT HIM.
02:35:06 IT'S ABOUT A BUILDING THAT WAS BOUGHT ON A 5,000-SQUARE-FOOT
02:35:10 NOT OF LAND THAT SO FORTH, WHY, I DON'T KNOW, HAS TEN
02:35:16 DESIGNATED PARKING SPACES.
02:35:18 EVERYTHING THAT IS COMING TO MAKE THIS THING GO IS BECAUSE I
02:35:22 HAVE A LEASE SOMEBODY OR SOMEWHERE, SOMEBODY THIS, AND THE
02:35:25 REVEREND RICHARDSON AND I HAVE THE PEOPLE ON, I THINK IT'S
02:35:29 ON BROADWAY OR WHATEVER, THE PEOPLE WHO SELL ROOFING
02:35:32 MATERIAL AND ANOTHER ONE CLOSE BY.
02:35:35 WHAT HAPPENS IF ONE OF THOSE -- JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS
02:35:38 GOES OUT THE DOOR?
02:35:40 WHAT HAPPENS THEN?
02:35:40 IT'S NOT BECAUSE HE WANTS TO DO IT.
02:35:42 WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO TOLD THEY'LL DO IT FOR HIM BACKS
02:35:46 OUT OR SELLS THE PROPERTY?
02:35:48 WHAT IS HE GOING TO DO THEN?
02:35:50 HE'S IN THE SAME POSITION WE'RE ON.
02:35:52 BASED ON THAT FAILURE TO DEMONSTRATE THE APPLICATION, THAT'S
02:35:57 WHERE I'M AT WITH YOU, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:36:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. VIERA, I THINK YOU'VE GOT THE LAST
02:36:03 WORD.
02:36:03 >>LUIS VIERA: VERY BRIEFLY.
02:36:05 FOR EVERYBODY VOTING TODAY AND FOR THE PUBLIC WATCHING,
02:36:08 THERE ARE SOME VOTES THAT ARE BLACK OR WHITE AND EITHER
02:36:11 RIGHT OR WRONG AND THEN SOME VOTES THAT ARE GRAY.
02:36:13 I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GRAY VOTE.
02:36:15 EITHER WAY, YOU'RE GOING TO GO UP AGAINST A PRINCIPLE THAT
02:36:18 ALL OF US WANT TO SUPPORT.
02:36:19 I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
02:36:21 THANK YOU.
02:36:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. CARLSON TO
02:36:25 REVERSE THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION.
02:36:30 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM MR. VIERA.
02:36:31 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
02:36:32 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:36:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
02:36:37 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:36:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
02:36:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
02:36:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
02:36:46 >> GUDES?
02:36:48 MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO, MANISCALCO, MIRANDA, DINGFELDER
02:36:53 VOTING NO AND GUDES BEING ABSENT AT VOTE -- THE MOTION
02:36:56 FAILED, I'M SORRY.
02:36:58 MOTION FAILED.
02:36:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I BELIEVE, MR. SHELBY, DO WE NEED AN
02:37:02 AFFIRMATIVE MOTION?
02:37:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU NEED TO TAKE OFFICIAL ACTION.
02:37:06 YOU NEED TO VOTE FOR ON SOMETHING.
02:37:08 THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER MOTION IN ORDER.
02:37:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AT THIS TIME, EVEN THOUGH IT'S RATHER
02:37:13 UNUSUAL, COULD A COUNCIL MEMBER ASK TO CONTINUE THE CASE?
02:37:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT THIS POINT IN TIME THERE'S REALLY NO
02:37:25 BASIS FOR IT.
02:37:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
02:37:27 I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
02:37:29 IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION FROM ANY OF THE ONE, TWO, THREE,
02:37:33 FOUR FOLKS VOTING AGAINST MR. CARLSON.
02:37:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL MAKE A MOTION BECAUSE I DON'T WANT
02:37:39 THIS THING TO BE A DANGLING PARTICIPLE AND NEVER BE
02:37:44 ADDRESSED.
02:37:45 MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO UPHOLD THE ZONING ADMINISTRATION
02:37:48 DENIAL OF THE SPECIAL USE 1 APPLICATION SU-1-21-0000035
02:37:56 BECAUSE THE PETITIONER HAS FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE
02:37:58 APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS SET
02:38:03 FORTH IN SECTION 27-132 AND 27-129.
02:38:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:38:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:38:13 MR. MIRANDA, IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME THAT ON THE NEXT PAGE ON
02:38:18 27-129 YOU'RE REFERRING TO SOME OF THE ISSUES SUCH AS THE
02:38:21 PARKING, NOISE --
02:38:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.
02:38:24 YES, SIR.
02:38:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND INGRESS AND EGRESS REFERRED TO
02:38:30 OTHERWISE.
02:38:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.
02:38:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
02:38:33 WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
02:38:38 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
02:38:40 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
02:38:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
02:38:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:38:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:38:48 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
02:38:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:38:53 >> GUDES?
02:38:53 MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA AND CARLSON VOTING NO AND GUDES
02:38:59 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
02:39:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN?
02:39:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME JUST ANNOUNCE, FOR ANYBODY WHO IS
02:39:08 WATCHING AND PERHAPS CONFUSED, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
02:39:14 REJECTED THIS PETITION AND COUNCIL UPHELD THE REJECTION.
02:39:19 SO, THEREFORE EFFECTIVELY MR. POWELL'S PETITION, ORIGINAL
02:39:24 REQUEST IS DENIED.
02:39:25 GO AHEAD.
02:39:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
02:39:27 JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL, THAT THERE IS A REVIEW PERIOD OR
02:39:29 AN APPEAL PERIOD THAT FOLLOWS QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
02:39:32 I JUST ASK YOU TO BE MINDFUL OF COMMENTS RELATIVE TO THIS
02:39:35 CASE, 30 DAYS.
02:39:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
02:39:42 ANYTHING ELSE ON NUMBER 95?
02:39:45 IF NOT, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD.
02:39:49 COUNCIL, I APOLOGIZE IN REGARD TO WHAT OTHER ITEMS WE CAN
02:39:55 WRAP UP.
02:39:56 98, DID ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS ON 98 FOR SIX AND A HALF
02:40:00 MILLION DOLLARS FROM HOMELAND SECURITY?
02:40:02 >> NO, SIR.
02:40:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT?
02:40:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M NOT SURE -- PROBABLY DOWN STAIRS ON THE
02:40:13 SECOND FLOOR DURING THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, BUT NO STAFF
02:40:18 HAS BEEN REQUESTED FOR 98 OR 99, WHICH ARE TWO RESOLUTIONS
02:40:23 THAT ARE RELATED TO THE SAME ITEM.
02:40:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FAIR ENOUGH.
02:40:27 ANYBODY QUESTIONS ON 98 --
02:40:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 98.
02:40:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND 99.
02:40:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 98 AND 99.
02:40:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION AND SECOND FROM MR. CITRO, 98 AND
02:40:38 99 FOR RESOLUTIONS.
02:40:39 ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:40:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:40:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
02:40:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:40:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:40:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:40:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:40:47 >> GUDES?
02:40:47 MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH GUDES BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
02:40:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE THANK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR
02:40:53 $6.5 MILLION TO HELP US HAVE 30 MORE FIRE MEN AND WOMEN.
02:40:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOPE THEY DON'T GO BROKE BY FRIDAY.
02:41:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, NUMBER 100 HAS BEEN HELD FOR
02:41:06 A STAFF REPORT.
02:41:07 THE STAFF IS AWARE OF THAT.
02:41:09 NUMBER 101 HAS BEEN CONTINUED TO OCTOBER 21st, BUT I'M
02:41:13 GOING TO ASK THAT COUNCIL THINK ABOUT THAT AND RECONSIDER
02:41:15 THAT UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
02:41:17 BUT AS OF NOW.
02:41:19 102 --
02:41:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 101 CAN WE GO AHEAD --
02:41:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS CONTINUED ALREADY.
02:41:27 102 NOW DOES NOT REQUIRE STAFF TO BE PRESENT.
02:41:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE ON THE
02:41:35 MEMORANDUM.
02:41:35 WE'LL DO THAT LATER.
02:41:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 103, THERE IS A REPORT THAT HAS BEEN
02:41:42 REQUESTED.
02:41:43 STAFF WILL BE APPEARING AS WELL AS ON NUMBER 4.
02:41:47 FINALLY ON NUMBER 105 IS ANOTHER REPORT, AND THERE IS NO
02:41:51 QUESTION ON THAT, AND THAT COULD ALSO BE RECEIVED AND FILED.
02:41:54 A QUESTION OF THE CLERK.
02:41:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN HAD ASKED US TO HOLD OFF, IF
02:42:02 POSSIBLE, ON 100 AND 103.
02:42:06 >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
02:42:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ITEM 30, WHICH ACTUALLY I REQUESTED TO
02:42:14 CARRY OVER TO STAFF REPORTS.
02:42:16 DO WE HAVE ANY STAFF ON THE LINE?
02:42:21 IT LOOKS LIKE HR.
02:42:22 KELLY.
02:42:23 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:42:26 KELLY AUSTIN HUMAN RESOURCES, ACCOMPANIED BY TRAINING
02:42:31 MANAGER MS. KAY HUNTER.
02:42:33 WE ARE HAPPY AND EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE
02:42:37 IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING.
02:42:40 WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR HELP WITH ANY
02:42:42 DISCUSSION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE TODAY, SIR.
02:42:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE REASON I PULLED THIS ITEM, ITEM 30,
02:42:49 IMPLICIT BIAS AWARENESS TRAINING IS NOT BECAUSE I DON'T
02:42:51 SUPPORT IT.
02:42:52 I TOTALLY SUPPORT IT AND LOOK FORWARD TO VOTING FOR IT.
02:42:55 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE, I THINK
02:42:57 THIS STARTED WITH THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, MR.
02:43:00 CARLSON, MR. CITRO AND CHAIRMAN GUDES AND OTHERS, SAID IT
02:43:06 WAS IMPORTANT.
02:43:07 I THINK THEY PUT IT IN THE CHARTER.
02:43:09 NOW IT'S IN FRONT OF US AS AN ITEM.
02:43:12 IF YOU COULD JUST EXPLAIN, KELLY, WHAT THE PROGRAM IS, HOW
02:43:16 THAT CONSULTANT IS GOING TO BE HELPING US AND WHY IT'S GOOD
02:43:21 FOR THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY.
02:43:23 >>KELLY AUSTIN: ABSOLUTELY, I'LL GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW AND
02:43:27 ALLOW KAY HUNTER TO ALSO ELABORATE.
02:43:28 AS YOU SPOKE TO, THIS IS THE PRODUCT OF THE CHARTER CHANGES,
02:43:35 AND THE CITY WENT OUT AND SOUGHT THROUGH AN RFP.
02:43:39 SO WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE HELP THAT PURCHASING
02:43:42 PROVIDED US IN MAKING A VERY SUCCESSFUL AND MEANINGFUL RFP.
02:43:45 WENT OUT AND LOOKED FOR THE BEST QUALIFIED BIDDERS FOR THIS
02:43:50 TRAINING THAT WE WILL BE PROVIDING TO ALL CITY EMPLOYEES TO
02:43:54 INCLUDE ELECTED OFFICIALS, EXCLUDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
02:43:57 AS THEY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN TRAINING PROGRAM.
02:43:59 BUT EVERYONE ELSE WILL BE TRAINED THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.
02:44:03 THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS COMMITTEE APPROVED A COMPANY CALLED
02:44:09 ALL THINGS DIVERSE THAT IS LED BY A DR. TAMMY HODO.
02:44:13 I'LL LET KAY TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DR. HODO.
02:44:16 THE COMMITTEE WAS VERY EXCITED TO BE WORKING WITH DR. HODO.
02:44:22 WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS GETTING PASSED TODAY SO WE CAN GET
02:44:25 DOWN TO THE CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT.
02:44:27 WE EXPECT TO BEGIN PILOT TRAINING IN THE DECEMBER TIME FRAME
02:44:34 AND THEN ROLLING OUT OUR TRAINING CURRICULUM IN THE NEW
02:44:38 YEAR.
02:44:38 DUE TO COVID, WE ARE GOING TO START OFF WITH VIRTUAL
02:44:41 TRAINING OF 25 PARTICIPANTS LED BY DR. HODO AND HER
02:44:47 TRAINERS.
02:44:47 THEN WHEN IT'S SAFE, WE'LL GO TO IN CLASSROOM TRAINING.
02:44:51 I WILL LET KAY HUNTER TAKE IT AWAY FROM HERE BECAUSE KAY WAS
02:44:56 AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE RFP PROCESS AND CAN BETTER EXPLAIN
02:44:59 HOW WE FEEL THIS TRAINING IS GOING TO FURTHER HELP US
02:45:04 IMPROVE OUR UNDERSTANDING AND AWARENESS OF DIVERSITY,
02:45:08 EQUITY, INCLUSION, IMPLICIT BIAS, CONSCIOUS AND UNCONSCIOUS
02:45:13 BIASES, AND REMIND US ALL WHEN WE INTERACT WITH CITIZENS,
02:45:17 WHEN WE INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER, THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING
02:45:20 THAT AWARENESS AND UNDERSTANDING THAT OTHER PEOPLE'S
02:45:23 JOURNEYS ARE NOT EXACTLY LIKE OURS.
02:45:25 SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE KAY A FEW MINUTES TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME
02:45:28 INFORMATION ABOUT DR. HODO AND THE CURRICULUM.
02:45:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FANTASTIC.
02:45:33 I JUST WANT TO THROW IN THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PLANS
02:45:36 ARE FOR COUNCIL.
02:45:38 I KNOW THAT ALL OF US, NO MATTER WHO WE ARE OR WHAT WE ARE,
02:45:43 HAVE IMPLICIT BIAS BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S JUST PART OF HUMAN
02:45:47 NATURE, AND WE NEED TO GET OVER IT.
02:45:49 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON INCLUDING COUNCIL.
02:45:52 I KNOW THIS COUNCILMAN WOULD LOVE TO PARTICIPATE, AND I
02:45:56 IMAGINE ALL SEVEN OF US I COULD PROBABLY SPEAK FOR, PERHAPS.
02:46:00 ANYWAY, REACH OUT TO US INDIVIDUALLY.
02:46:03 PROBABLY BETTER IF YOU SCHEDULED US FOR SEPARATE GROUPS SO
02:46:06 WE DON'T HAVE SUNSHINE ISSUES.
02:46:09 BUT JUST THINK ABOUT INCLUDING US AS WELL.
02:46:12 MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAND OVER THE GAVEL TO YOU.
02:46:14 >>KELLY AUSTIN: YOU ARE AND WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE IMPLICIT
02:46:18 BIAS TRAINING, SIR.
02:46:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MA'AM.
02:46:34 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT SUBSEQUENT
02:46:36 TO THE CHARTER CHANGE, YOU ALL ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE
02:46:41 REQUIRING THIS IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING AND DOES APPLY TO ALL
02:46:47 OF THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE CITY EMPLOYEES.
02:46:49 SO YOU ARE, IN FACT, REQUIRED TO HAVE THE TRAINING.
02:46:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GREAT.
02:46:54 THANK YOU.
02:46:54 SORRY, JOE.
02:46:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT I
02:46:58 WENT TO THE IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING THAT WAS HELD A YEAR AND
02:47:00 A HALF AGO.
02:47:01 AND IT IS VERY, VERY ENLIGHTENING.
02:47:04 I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONE.
02:47:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE FOR ITEM NUMBER 30?
02:47:09 ANYONE ELSE?
02:47:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
02:47:16 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
02:47:17 JUST VERY, VERY BRIEFLY, THANK EVERYBODY FOR THIS.
02:47:22 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE COUNCIL IN
02:47:28 '18, AND THEN THIS WAS DEALT WITH IN THE CHARTER REVIEW
02:47:32 COMMISSION.
02:47:33 I ALWAYS GIVE -- I ALWAYS LIKE TO PUBLICLY NOTE A GUY THAT A
02:47:39 LOT OF US ARE GOOD FRIENDS WITH, MICHAEL STEPHENS WHO ALSO
02:47:42 DID A LOT ON THIS.
02:47:43 MICHAEL IS AN ATTORNEY.
02:47:44 WORKS FOR TAMPA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AND IS JUST A GREAT
02:47:47 GUY.
02:47:48 THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT TO BE DOING AS A CITY TO BE
02:47:51 PROACTIVE AND NOT REACTIVE IN THE SENSE THAT WE'VE GOT TO
02:47:55 UNILATERALLY CONTINUE TO DO THINGS LIKE THIS SO THAT WE CAN
02:47:58 PROMOTE TOLERANCE AND DO IT IN A PROACTIVE WAY AND NOT
02:48:03 REACTIVE SO WHEN THERE'S A CRISIS, WE GO, SWEET LORD, LET'S
02:48:07 GO DO THIS STUFF.
02:48:08 I'M SO GLAD THIS WAS DONE IN A WAY THAT WAS DONE IN THE
02:48:11 CHARTER WITH A LOT OF LEADERSHIP, INCLUDING FROM ONE, TWO,
02:48:14 THREE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOW HERE ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
02:48:17 AND MS. ZELMAN AND MANY, MANY OTHERS.
02:48:21 BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:48:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
02:48:23 MR. MIRANDA HAS MOVED THE RESOLUTION.
02:48:27 SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
02:48:28 ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:48:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
02:48:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:48:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:48:33 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:48:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:48:35 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:48:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
02:48:37 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:48:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHILE I HAVE MS. AUSTIN HERE, I'LL JUMP TO
02:48:42 ITEM NUMBER 103 WHILE I HAVE HER SO I CAN RELEASE HER.
02:48:46 IF YOU CAN GIVE US A BRIEF DETAIL OF ITEM NUMBER 3 AND I'LL
02:48:51 FOLLOW UP WITH A COMMENTARY AND CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THE
02:48:53 MAYOR LAST EVENING.
02:48:55 >>KELLY AUSTIN: YES, SIR.
02:48:56 THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN GUDES.
02:48:58 SO THE MEMO THAT I SENT OVER BASICALLY WAS JUST TO KIND OF
02:49:02 GIVE A BASELINE OF WHERE WE ARE AS IT RELATES TO THE
02:49:08 HOLIDAYS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR OUR EMPLOYEES OUR BARGAIN
02:49:13 AND NON-BARGAINED EMPLOYEES.
02:49:15 WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE FEDERAL, STATE AND SOME SURROUNDING
02:49:19 JURISDICTIONS TO SEE IF WE KIND OF FELL IN LINE, AND WE DO.
02:49:23 HOWEVER, THERE IS -- I BELIEVE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS
02:49:27 LOOKING TO ADOPT ADDITIONAL HOLIDAY, JUNETEENTH.
02:49:31 OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DURING OUR
02:49:34 FISCAL YEAR DECLARED JUNETEENTH A HOLIDAY.
02:49:37 THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO I COULD FIND CURRENTLY.
02:49:40 CLEARWATER IS PRESENTLY NEGOTIATING THAT WITH THEIR FIRE
02:49:44 UNION.
02:49:44 HOWEVER, NUMBER-WISE AND SCOPE AND THE TYPES OF HOLIDAYS WE
02:49:48 ALL PRETTY MUCH FALL IN LINE.
02:49:51 THE CITY OF TAMPA OFFERING 11 PAID HOLIDAYS ANNUALLY AND ONE
02:49:55 FLOATING HOLIDAY, AND THOSE ARE NEGOTIATED WITH OUR THREE
02:50:01 UNION REPRESENTED LEADERS.
02:50:05 I WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU THE BASELINE BECAUSE I KNOW --
02:50:10 WHERE WE WERE AT SO WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT TODAY, IF YOU'D
02:50:13 LIKE, SIR.
02:50:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, THE MEMO -- THE MOTION WAS INSTITUTE
02:50:19 AND ALSO LOOKING AT THE CITY CALENDAR WITH THE FEDERAL
02:50:24 CALENDAR AND THE OTHER SURROUNDING AREAS.
02:50:28 NEVERTHELESS I DID TALK TO THE MAYOR LAST NIGHT, GENTLEMEN
02:50:32 AND SHE ASSURED ME THIS WILL BE A DISCUSSION WITH HER STAFF
02:50:35 UPON HER RETURN BACK AND WE'LL MEET AGAIN TO DISCUSS HOW WE
02:50:38 LOOK TO IMPLEMENT JUNETEENTH OR WHATEVER IDEAS THEY MAY
02:50:41 HAVE.
02:50:41 IT IS FORTHCOMING AND SHE GUARANTEED ME LAST NIGHT THAT WE
02:50:44 WOULD GET THIS RESOLVED.
02:50:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF IT'S NOT A MATTER
02:50:49 OF ADDING AN ADDITIONAL HOLIDAY BUT MAYBE SWAPPING ONE OUT,
02:50:54 PERHAPS HAS LESS SIGNIFICANCE.
02:50:57 I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT WHAT THE 11 ARE.
02:50:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DON'T KNOW.
02:51:00 I'M GOING TO WAIT -- I WON'T MAKE A MOTION TODAY, BUT I'LL
02:51:04 GIVE THE MAYOR THAT LATITUDE TO GIVE HER ABOUT 30 DAYS AND
02:51:07 SEE WHERE HER AND HR AND I THINK SOME OTHER FOLKS HAVE TO BE
02:51:13 INVOLVED IN THAT AS WELL, THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
02:51:15 AND THEN WE'LL CIRCLE BACK AT THAT TIME.
02:51:18 OKAY WITH YOU, MS. AUSTIN?
02:51:19 >>KELLY AUSTIN: YES, SIR.
02:51:20 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:51:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:51:22 GENTLEMEN, YES, SIR.
02:51:28 WE'LL GET TO 53.
02:51:31 I'LL ASK FOR A POINT OF PRIVILEGE.
02:51:33 I'VE GOT A BUNCH OF FOLKS THAT ARE IN TOWN MEETING ABOUT A
02:51:36 BIG ISSUE THAT MAY BE COMING TO THE CITY AND A LOT OF
02:51:39 ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE DOWN STAIRS.
02:51:42 MR. DINGFELDER, IF YOU COULD TAKE OVER, IF I COULD GET TO
02:51:46 ITEM 100 SO I CAN GET BACK TO THOSE GUESTS AND MR.
02:51:50 DINGFELDER TAKE OVER THE REST OF THE DAY.
02:51:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST ABOUT THE END OF IT.
02:51:54 IN REGARD TO 53 AND WE CAN KILL IT REAL FAST, I SAW THAT THE
02:51:58 CHURCH WANTS TO BUILD A COMMUNITY GARDEN.
02:52:00 SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT.
02:52:02 I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL THING.
02:52:04 I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY TO DO COMMUNITY
02:52:07 GARDENS.
02:52:09 COUNCILWOMAN MARY MULHERN WAS HUGE ON COMMUNITY GARDENS AND
02:52:13 DID A GOOD JOB WITH THAT.
02:52:14 WITH THAT I MOVE RESOLUTION 53.
02:52:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO STAFF.
02:52:20 THERE WAS A LITTLE COMPLICATION AT FIRST.
02:52:22 WE HAD TO MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS AND THE CHURCH WAS ABLE TO
02:52:25 GET WITH MR. MORRIS MASSEY AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT TO WORK OUT
02:52:29 THE DETAILS ON THAT.
02:52:30 I'M HAPPY THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.
02:52:33 THE RESOLUTION HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. MIRANDA.
02:52:36 SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
02:52:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:52:41 ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:52:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:52:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:52:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:52:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:52:47 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:52:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
02:52:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
02:52:50 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:52:52 I SEE MS. FEELEY.
02:52:54 DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING IN REFERENCE TO THIS?
02:52:57 YOU'RE GOOD.
02:53:01 >> THANK YOU.
02:53:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 100.
02:53:06 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN GUDES, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, BRIAN
02:53:11 MORRISON, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
02:53:13 I BELIEVE YOU HAVE MY MEMO REGARDING THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE
02:53:16 FOR THE TENANTS BILL OF RIGHTS.
02:53:18 I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
02:53:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DO HAVE IT.
02:53:22 I'VE READ IT.
02:53:24 WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER STAFF YESTERDAY IN
02:53:28 REFERENCE TO IT.
02:53:29 I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION IN REFERENCE TO THE LEGAL
02:53:32 DEPARTMENT PREPARING AN ORDINANCE ON THIS MATTER AND
02:53:36 BRINGING THAT BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
02:53:39 I NEED TO PASS THE GAVEL TO MR. DINGFELDER TO DO THAT SO I
02:53:44 CAN GET BACK DOWNSTAIRS.
02:53:45 THE GIST OF THE ORDINANCE IS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS ADOPTED
02:53:47 AN ORDINANCE, AS YOU KNOW.
02:53:49 THERE ARE A FEW KINKS MY UNDERSTANDING AND OUR DEPARTMENT,
02:53:53 OUR LEGAL PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY NEEDED TO MEET WITH SOME OTHER
02:53:56 FOLKS, AND I THINK NOW WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY
02:53:59 ARE TALKING ABOUT, BEFITTING NOW TO BRING BACK THAT
02:54:02 ORDINANCE IN REFERENCE TO THIS RENTERS' BILL OF RIGHTS.
02:54:07 I ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS FOR MR.
02:54:11 MORRISON AT THIS TIME.
02:54:13 NO QUESTIONS, I'LL PASS THE GAVEL AND GET THIS MOTION.
02:54:20 >>BRIAN MORRISON: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, JUST VERY BRIEFLY, IN
02:54:22 COORDINATION WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, ONE THING THAT WE'VE
02:54:26 DISCUSSED IS WITH THE GOALS OF THE COUNTY ORDINANCE PERHAPS
02:54:31 REMAINING THE SAME, TAMPA, OF COURSE, BEING UNIQUE, IT MAY
02:54:35 BE THAT OUR IMPLEMENTATION COULD LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
02:54:40 FOR INSTANCE, THE ANTIDISCRIMINATION PIECE MAY FALL MORE
02:54:44 PROPERLY UNDER HUMAN RIGHTS WITH REGARD TO OUR CODE.
02:54:49 SO I'VE BEEN ASKED, AS YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION, IF YOU COULD
02:54:54 ALLOW THE ADMINISTRATION LEEWAY TO STRUCTURE IT IN A WAY
02:54:59 THAT MOST MAKES SENSE FOR TAMPA WHILE THE SUBSTANCE, OF
02:55:03 COURSE, WOULD REMAIN --
02:55:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S IN THE MOTION WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.
02:55:07 TO HAVE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT PREPARE AN ORDINANCE ON THE
02:55:10 NOTICE OF RENTAL HOUSING RIGHTS AND RESOURCES PERTAINING TO
02:55:13 A RENTER'S BILL OF RIGHTS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE
02:55:15 HOUSING DEPARTMENT TO BE PRESENTED BACK NOVEMBER 18, 2021.
02:55:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
02:55:22 WE HAVE A MOTION.
02:55:23 >>BRIAN MORRISON: MR. CHAIR, I WOULD ASK ONLY THAT WE LEAVE
02:55:29 OPEN THE POSSIBILITY THAT IT COULD SPREAD OUT OVER MORE THAN
02:55:36 ONE ORDINANCE.
02:55:37 IN CASE WE HAVE TO EDIT DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CODE.
02:55:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE MOTION WOULD BE MODIFIED SLIGHTLY TO
02:55:43 SAY PREPARE ONE OR MORE ORDINANCES --
02:55:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR DISCUSSION.
02:55:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR DISCUSSION.
02:55:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. ZELMAN.
02:55:58 WAS THERE A SECOND ON THE MOTION?
02:56:00 MR. VIERA SECONDED.
02:56:02 MS. ZELMAN.
02:56:03 MS. ZELMAN, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP?
02:56:08 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I DID.
02:56:09 CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
02:56:10 >> YES.
02:56:11 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WOULD ASK FOR A LITTLE MORE TIME.
02:56:14 IT'S OCTOBER TOMORROW, AND NOVEMBER WILL BE UPON US MORE
02:56:21 QUICKLY THAN IT WOULD SEEM.
02:56:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WE HAVE A MEETING DECEMBER 4th.
02:56:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MORRISON, WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU, SIR?
02:56:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DECEMBER 2nd, WE HAVE A MEETING.
02:56:33 >>BRIAN MORRISON: EARLY DECEMBER WOULD BE ALL RIGHT.
02:56:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DECEMBER 2nd.
02:56:38 ALL RIGHT.
02:56:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION MODIFIED TO READ DECEMBER 2nd IN
02:56:46 DEFERENCE TO MS. ZELMAN'S REQUEST.
02:56:48 SECONDED BY MR. VIERA.
02:56:49 ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION?
02:56:51 I HAVE ONE.
02:56:53 I'M GLAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DRAFT MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN,
02:57:02 BECAUSE THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THE SECOND PROVISION OF THE
02:57:09 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ORDINANCE SAYS THAT A LANDLORD, ANY
02:57:14 LANDLORD FROM ONE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE ALL THE WAY UP TO A
02:57:18 200 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX OR WHAT HAVE YOU, ANY SIZE OF A
02:57:23 LANDLORD BASICALLY IS NOT ALLOWED TO DISCRIMINATE ANYBODY ON
02:57:31 THE BASIS OF WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM, WHICH BASICALLY
02:57:34 IS SECTION 8.
02:57:39 I WAS APPROACHED BY SOME LANDLORDS, SPECIFICALLY THE
02:57:43 APARTMENT FOLKS, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A HUGE ISSUE WITH THAT.
02:57:47 I GUESS THEY ARE MORE ACCUSTOMED TO TAKING SECTION 8.
02:57:51 BUT WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS SOMEBODY WHO OWNS A SINGLE
02:57:56 LITTLE HOUSE AND IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T LIKE SECTION 8
02:58:01 MONEY.
02:58:02 IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S A LOT OF RULES AND REGULATIONS
02:58:05 ASSOCIATED WITH BEING A SECTION 8 LANDLORD, OVER AND ABOVE
02:58:11 STATE LAW ON HEALTH CODES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THE HUD HAS A
02:58:15 LOT OF RULES.
02:58:16 IS ANYBODY FAMILIAR WITH THAT?
02:58:17 MR. MORRISON, YOUR HAND IS UP.
02:58:23 GO AHEAD.
02:58:24 >>BRIAN MORRISON: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:58:26 THERE ARE SOME OTHER PROVISIONS IN THE FAIR HOUSING ACT
02:58:33 REGULATIONS PROMULGATED BY THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING
02:58:36 AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS IN OUR STATE STATUTES FOR
02:58:42 OTHER KINDS OF DISCRIMINATION SECTIONS THAT DO PROVIDE
02:58:45 CERTAIN CARVE-OUTS FOR SMALLER RENTERS.
02:58:49 I BELIEVE OWNING THREE OR FEWER PROPERTIES OR A MULTIFAMILY
02:58:54 UNIT OF FOUR OR MORE -- OR FOUR OR LESS WHERE THE OWNER
02:58:58 OCCUPIES ONE OF THE UNITS.
02:59:00 AND CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, I COULD PROVIDE COUNCIL WHEN I COME
02:59:06 BACK WITH THIS WITH OPTIONS TO CONSIDER ALONG THOSE LINES,
02:59:10 IF YOU'D LIKE.
02:59:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH.
02:59:12 THE MAKER OF THE MOTION HAD TO STEP OUT, BUT I CAN'T INCLUDE
02:59:19 IT AS PART OF HIS MOTION.
02:59:21 BUT I HOPE YOU CAN BRING THAT DISCUSSION WITH YOU WHEN YOU
02:59:24 COME WITH THE DRAFT.
02:59:25 THAT'S MY INFORMAL REQUEST.
02:59:28 I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE FLESH THOSE ISSUES OUT
02:59:32 BECAUSE OTHERWISE I'M JUST AFRAID WE COULD OPEN PANDORA'S
02:59:36 BOX, ESPECIALLY AS RELATED TO WHAT I SAID.
02:59:40 A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST OWN ONE RENTAL HOUSE BECAUSE THEY OWN
02:59:43 THEIR PARENTS' HOUSE AND THEY RENT IT OUT.
02:59:46 THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN ARE THEY THROWN INTO THIS TYPE OF
02:59:50 REGULATORY SCHEME?
02:59:52 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THE INTENT OR NOT.
02:59:53 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN ST. PETE -- NO, IN
02:59:55 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ON THAT ISSUE.
02:59:57 ST. PETE EXCLUDED THE SECTION 8 PROVISION, AS YOU NOTED IN
03:00:01 YOUR MEMO.
03:00:02 ANYWAY, A LOT OUT OF MY MOUTH.
03:00:04 I APOLOGIZE.
03:00:04 ALL RIGHT.
03:00:05 WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM CHAIRMAN GUDES.
03:00:09 ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
03:00:14 I GUESS WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:00:16 DON'T HAVE TO.
03:00:18 ALL RIGHT.
03:00:18 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
03:00:20 ANY OPPOSED?
03:00:20 ALL RIGHT.
03:00:22 WE'LL SEE THAT ISSUE COME BACK ON DECEMBER 2nd FOR
03:00:25 ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION IN A DRAFT ORDINANCE.
03:00:29 WE'RE GOING TO BOUNCE BACK, I THINK TO 97 UNDER
03:00:35 ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES.
03:00:36 MR. BENNETT, YOU OR YOUR TEAM HAVE ANYTHING TO TALK TO US.
03:00:42 I UNDERSTAND CHIEF TRIPP IS ON THE LINE IN REGARD TO COVID
03:00:45 UPDATES, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT GREATLY.
03:00:47 MAYBE.
03:00:57 >>CHIEF TRIPP: I'M HERE.
03:00:58 GOOD AFTERNOON.
03:00:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD AFTERNOON.
03:01:00 WE GOTCHA.
03:01:03 >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
03:01:04 CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
03:01:06 JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A COVID UPDATE.
03:01:08 OF COURSE, WE HAVE GOOD NEWS.
03:01:10 NUMBERS HAVE DECREASED.
03:01:12 CURRENTLY, THE STATE NEW POSITIVITY RATE IS 8.6, WHICH HAS
03:01:16 BEEN DOWN FROM LAST WEEK OF 2.6.
03:01:18 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS 9.7, WHICH IS DOWN 2.8.
03:01:21 AND WE STILL HAVE THE SITES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AL LOPEZ
03:01:26 TESTING SITE.
03:01:27 TODAY THEY HAVE GIVEN OVER 46,000 TESTS AS OF TODAY, WHICH
03:01:32 THEY STARTED BACK IN AUGUST.
03:01:34 AL BARNES HAS GIVEN OVER 7,000 TESTS.
03:01:41 LEE DAVIS CLINIC HAS GIVEN OVER 300 VACCINES SINCE THEY
03:01:48 STARTED.
03:01:49 LEE DAVIS IS THE AREA THAT IS CURRENTLY ASSISTING THE LOCAL
03:01:54 GOVERNMENTS WITH THE TESTING.
03:01:58 JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE BOOSTER SHOTS ARE AVAILABLE
03:02:00 FOR THE PFIZER ONLY.
03:02:02 AND THE BOOSTER SHOTS ARE AVAILABLE AT LEE DAVIS.
03:02:04 BASICALLY, IT SHOULD BE SIX MONTHS AFTER THE SECOND DOSE
03:02:08 THEY RECEIVED THE PFIZER VACCINE WHO SHOULD GET THE BOOSTER
03:02:12 VACCINE.
03:02:12 INDIVIDUALS AGE 65 OR OLDER, INDIVIDUALS 50 TO 64 WITH
03:02:17 UNDERLYING MEDICAL CONDITIONS, RESIDENTS IN LONG-TERM CARE
03:02:21 FACILITIES.
03:02:21 WHO MAY GET THE BOOSTER SHOTS ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE 18 TO
03:02:27 49 WITH UNDERLYING MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE
03:02:30 18 TO 64 AT INCREASED RISK BECAUSE OF OCCUPATIONAL OR
03:02:35 INSTITUTIONAL SETTINGS.
03:02:38 PRETTY MUCH IN MID SEPTEMBER, WE BEGAN TO RUN SOME DATA
03:02:42 BASED ON THE ZIP CODES IN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS TO
03:02:47 DETERMINE OUR VACCINE RATE.
03:02:48 AND BASICALLY I AM PROUD TO SAY WITH THE MAYOR'S LEADERSHIP
03:02:52 AND THE COUNCIL SUPPORT AND, OF COURSE, WITH THE COMMUNITY
03:02:55 AND ESPECIALLY THE LOCAL CHURCHES AND PARKS AND REC THAT WE
03:02:58 HAVE VACCINATED MORE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS,
03:03:04 PRETTY MUCH, 600,000.
03:03:05 OVER 584,000.
03:03:07 SOME ADDITIONAL GOOD NEWS IS THAT BASICALLY OVER HALF, 57%
03:03:13 WAS IN PREDOMINANTLY BLACK AND BROWN NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH IS
03:03:15 LOCATED IN EAST TAMPA, WHICH IS DISTRICT 5 AND WEST TAMPA
03:03:18 WHICH IS DISTRICT 6.
03:03:20 THAT IS THE END OF MY COVID REPORT.
03:03:23 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
03:03:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:03:28 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:03:29 I APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
03:03:30 I WANTED TO SAY, CHIEF TRIPP, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE
03:03:33 ADMINISTRATION'S HARD WORK ON THIS.
03:03:35 I WANTED TO SALUTE THAT.
03:03:38 I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT.
03:03:40 WAS IT LAST WEEK, I GUESS IT WAS LAST THURSDAY WHERE WE HAD
03:03:42 A VERY -- I DON'T WANT TO USE -- THE WORD IS NOT
03:03:46 CONTENTIOUS.
03:03:47 WE HAD A PASSIONATE DEBATE ABOUT A POLICY TAKEN THAT WE WERE
03:03:52 TALKING ABOUT WITH HOUSING, EVICTIONS, ET CETERA.
03:03:55 AND THERE WAS SOME RESPECTFUL DISAGREEMENTS WITH SOME OF US
03:03:59 WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON THAT ISSUE.
03:04:02 AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHEN THERE ARE TOUGH POLITICAL
03:04:06 DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE THAT THE RIGHT THINGS TO DO, AND YOU
03:04:08 SHOULD ALWAYS BE SALUTED FOR THAT.
03:04:11 I KNOW THE MAYOR ON THE COVID ISSUE HAS JUST BEEN VERY, VERY
03:04:15 STRONG THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE TIME, AND SHE TAKES A LOT OF
03:04:18 POLITICAL HEAT FOR THAT.
03:04:19 I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US, WE AGREE WITH THE
03:04:23 ADMINISTRATION'S STANCE ON COVID ON SOME OF THE STEPS TAKEN
03:04:26 TO SAY THAT.
03:04:28 BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
03:04:30 WE'VE HAD A TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF AMERICANS, I BELIEVE IT IS,
03:04:34 OVER 700,000, DIE FROM THIS TERRIBLE DISEASE OR THIS
03:04:40 TERRIBLE CONDITION.
03:04:41 AND I THINK THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE A GOOD JOB IN TERMS
03:04:45 OF JUST BEING STRONG, NOT TRYING TO DODGE BULLETS ON THIS
03:04:48 ISSUE POLITICALLY, SO TO SPEAK, AND MAKING A LOT OF TOUGH
03:04:51 DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO GET PEOPLE, SOME PEOPLE, TICKED
03:04:55 OFF AT YOU, AND WHATNOT.
03:04:57 YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN THEY ARE RIGHT ON THIS ISSUE, I THINK
03:05:01 IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO SAY SO AND GIVE POLITICAL KUDOS.
03:05:04 I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.
03:05:06 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
03:05:06 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
03:05:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. VIERA.
03:05:11 ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS ISSUE?
03:05:13 CHIEF TRIPP, THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT.
03:05:16 I THINK COME BACK TO US EVERY TWO WEEKS WITH UPDATES AND
03:05:19 HOPEFULLY WE'LL KEEP THIS TREND GOING IN THE RIGHT
03:05:23 DIRECTION.
03:05:24 WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK IN ALL OF YOUR AREAS.
03:05:29 MR. VIERA, YOU GAVE ME A GOOD IDEA.
03:05:31 BEFORE YOU LEAVE, CHIEF TRIPP, MR. SHELBY, WITHOUT HAVING TO
03:05:37 DO A WRITTEN RESOLUTION, WHAT CAN THIS BODY DO SHORT OF A
03:05:42 WRITTEN RESOLUTION TO SAY WE SUPPORT XY AND Z?
03:05:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION.
03:05:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST A VERBAL MOTION.
03:05:50 WITHOUT BEING ON THE AGENDA OR ANYTHING ELSE.
03:05:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION AND A SECOND IS ALWAYS IN ORDER.
03:05:57 DEPENDS ON WHAT -- A RESOLUTION IS A FORMAL DOCUMENT.
03:06:02 IF YOU WANT TO COMMUNICATE WHAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST IS
03:06:05 IF YOU WANT TO COMMUNICATE AS A COUNCIL, SHORT OF A
03:06:09 RESOLUTION, THEN WHAT HAPPENS, DEPENDING TO WHOM THE SENDER
03:06:13 IS, YOU ASK THE CHAIR ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL TO SEND A LETTER
03:06:17 TO AND FILL IN THE BLANK.
03:06:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS HOPING TO BE SHORT OF THAT, TOO.
03:06:21 IN LIGHT OF MR. VIERA'S COMMENTS, WHAT I'M THINKING IS, IF
03:06:25 THERE'S A MOTION OUT THERE TO SAY THIS COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE
03:06:28 MAYOR WHOLEHEARTEDLY IN HER EFFORTS TO COMBAT COVID.
03:06:32 AND WITHOUT IN WRITING OR ANYTHING ELSE, IF WE WANT TO TAKE
03:06:37 A VOTE ON THAT CAN WE DO THAT AS A MOTION AND JUST PUT IT ON
03:06:40 THE RECORD FOR ANYBODY WHO HAPPENS TO BE WATCHING?
03:06:44 FROM WHAT WE SAW AT LUNCHTIME WITH A REPORTER OUT IN THE
03:06:46 LOBBY, THIS SEEMS TO BE A HOT-BUTTON ISSUE RIGHT NOW,
03:06:50 ESPECIALLY AS RELATED TO SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES WHO ARE
03:06:53 RESISTANT ON THIS.
03:06:54 I THINK A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO SAY, WE SUPPORT THE
03:06:57 MAYOR I THINK IS A REALLY IMPORTANT THING.
03:07:00 >>LUIS VIERA: ARE YOU LOOKING TO MAKE THE MOTION?
03:07:02 OKAY.
03:07:06 THEN.
03:07:07 PURSUANT TO THE WISE SUGGESTION OF OUR CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE
03:07:11 THE MOTION, WHICH IS JUST A MOTION IN SUPPORT OF THE
03:07:15 ADMINISTRATION'S STEPS THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN IN ORDER TO
03:07:18 MITIGATE THE EFFECTS OF COVID ON THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
03:07:21 PROMOTE PUBLIC SAFETY WHEN IT COMES TO THE ISSUE OF COVID
03:07:26 AND TO PROMOTE THE HEALTH, WELFARE, AND WELL-BEING OF OUR
03:07:30 CITY OF TAMPA EMPLOYEES, AND SOMETHING THAT ALSO WANT TO
03:07:33 NOTE WHICH IS A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA,
03:07:36 YOU SEE IT IN SOME NEWS ARTICLES, HAS A COVID VACCINATION
03:07:40 MANDATE.
03:07:40 THAT, IN MY OPINION, IS NOT CORRECT.
03:07:42 YOU CAN GET TESTED IN ORDER TO ESCAPE THAT.
03:07:46 YOU CAN ALSO WEAR A MASK IN ORDER TO ESCAPE THAT.
03:07:49 THAT IS NOT A MANDATE.
03:07:50 SO WE ARE SUPPORTING.
03:07:52 I AM SUPPORTING THAT, AND CHAIRMAN DINGFELDER, I THINK IT'S
03:07:57 WISE FOR US TO SAY THAT.
03:07:58 AGAIN, THESE ARE TOUGH POLITICAL DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN
03:08:03 MADE BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
03:08:05 AND WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT IN COUNCIL
03:08:07 THAT WE'RE OVER HERE HIDING FROM THOSE BECAUSE THOSE ARE
03:08:10 TOUGH POLITICAL DECISIONS.
03:08:11 I'M GLAD TO DO THAT.
03:08:12 THANK YOU, SIR.
03:08:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WEARING MY FULLY VAXXED PIN, I WILL SECOND
03:08:18 THAT.
03:08:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FANTASTIC.
03:08:20 WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:08:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:08:23 LET'S LOOK AT THINGS REALISTICALLY.
03:08:28 WHEN YOUR MOTHER, WHEN I WAS A KID, YOU HAD TO HAVE A
03:08:31 CERTAIN MONTH OF VACCINES OR THEY WOULDN'T LET YOU GO INTO
03:08:36 THE FIRST GRADE.
03:08:37 THAT'S STILL IN EFFECT TODAY.
03:08:39 SO THEY DON'T LET YOU INTO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IF YOU DON'T
03:08:42 HAVE A CERTAIN VACCINATION.
03:08:43 LET ME PUT IT ANOTHER WAY.
03:08:45 I TESTED NEGATIVE THE FIRST TIME THEY TESTED ME IN THE CITY.
03:08:51 GUESS WHAT HAPPENED THE SECOND TIME.
03:08:53 I TESTED POSITIVE.
03:08:55 I WENT, DID WHAT I HAD TO DO, AND IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT ONE,
03:08:59 THAT WAS JANUARY THE 11th AND ON JANUARY 28, I CAME DOWN
03:09:04 WITH COVID, MYSELF AND CHAIRMAN GUDES, ABOUT THE SAME TIME.
03:09:07 WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE FIRST ONE?
03:09:14 YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN PALLBEARERS AT MY FUNERAL.
03:09:17 WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT'S YOUR LIFE, YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH
03:09:20 IT.
03:09:21 THINK OF THE PEOPLE, IF YOU HAVEN'T GOT IT, HAVEN'T BEEN
03:09:24 THROUGH THE SYSTEM, DIDN'T GET THE TWO SHOTS, HOW MANY
03:09:27 PEOPLE YOU CAN ACTUALLY KILL, SAY IT THAT WAY, INTENTIONALLY
03:09:31 OR UNINTENTIONALLY.
03:09:34 SOONER OR LATER, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO FILE A LAWSUIT AGAINST
03:09:36 THE PERSON THEY GOT IT FROM AND ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE IN
03:09:41 THIS COUNTRY.
03:09:41 IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT FOR YOURSELF, DO IT FOR YOUR
03:09:44 WIFE, YOUR KIDS, YOUR FAMILY, WHOEVER, YOUR WORKERS, THE
03:09:48 PEOPLE YOU WORK WITH, DON'T TRY TO INFECT SOMEBODY ELSE WHEN
03:09:52 YOU CAN GET THE INFECTION YOURSELF.
03:09:55 I UNDERSTAND THE RIGHTS OF AMERICA.
03:09:57 I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT TO ME, IT'S ALMOST REPUBLICAN AND
03:10:02 DEMOCRAT.
03:10:02 NONPARTISAN OR NOT, MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHO YOU ARE.
03:10:05 TAKE THE SAFE ROUTE.
03:10:07 YOU SEE IT ONE WAY AND DRIVE AGAINST IT ON PURPOSE,
03:10:09 ABSOLUTELY NOT.
03:10:11 OVER -- ABOUT 700,000 PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN THIS COUNTRY.
03:10:16 YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS, ALMOST TWICE THE POPULATION OF THE
03:10:19 CITY OF TAMPA DISAPPEARED.
03:10:20 THEY ARE NO LONGER HERE.
03:10:21 THEY COULD HAVE ALL BEEN HERE OR MOST OF THEM IF TAKEN THE
03:10:25 SHOT OR THE SHOTS.
03:10:27 THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
03:10:28 IT'S A NATURAL THING THAT YOU DO IT NOT ONLY FOR YOURSELF,
03:10:31 YOU DO IT FOR YOUR SOCIAL WORKER, YOUR FAMILY, YOUR LOVED
03:10:34 ONES.
03:10:36 JUST THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
03:10:37 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:10:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA.
03:10:40 MR. MANISCALCO.
03:10:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO I HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT HAS
03:10:46 POLIO, AND HE GOT IT AS A KID BEFORE THE POLIO VACCINE WAS
03:10:51 MADE AVAILABLE OR EXISTED, BUT YOU DON'T HEAR ABOUT POLIO
03:10:56 LIKE YOU DID IN THE 1950s AND BEFORE BECAUSE OF THE
03:10:59 VACCINE.
03:11:00 MY GRANDMOTHER HAD A LONGTIME FAMILY FRIEND UNTIL BASICALLY,
03:11:04 UNTIL THE DAY HE DIED.
03:11:05 AGAIN, BEFORE POLIO, VACCINES WERE AVAILABLE.
03:11:08 HE CONTRACTED POLIO AND JUST LIKE MY COUSIN, THEY HAVE
03:11:12 BRACES.
03:11:13 THEY STRUGGLE TO WALK AND WHATNOT AND THAT'S WHAT THEY LIVE
03:11:15 WITH.
03:11:16 THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE VACCINE.
03:11:17 WE TAKE FLU SHOTS.
03:11:18 WE TAKE OTHER VACCINES, AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MENTIONED, TO
03:11:22 GO TO SCHOOL, TO WHATEVER IT IS, BUT IT'S THERE TO HELP US.
03:11:27 IT'S THERE TO SAVE LIVES.
03:11:28 POLIO IS DIFFERENT FROM COVID, BUT I'VE KNOWN THESE PEOPLE
03:11:34 THAT SUFFER WITH IT.
03:11:36 AGAIN, BEFORE THE VACCINE WAS AVAILABLE.
03:11:39 COVID-19 AND THE CORONAVIRUS, I NEVER EXPECTED OR THOUGHT
03:11:43 THAT WE WOULD EVER EXPERIENCE ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
03:11:45 BUT HERE WE ARE.
03:11:48 700,000 PLUS PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES HAVE DIED.
03:11:51 I KNOW PEOPLE PERSONALLY, BECAUSE I WOULD GET ASKED LAST
03:11:54 SUMMER, ANTIMASKERS AND ANTI-EVERYTHING, DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY
03:11:59 THAT EVEN HAS COVID?
03:12:01 I GO, I KNOW TWO PEOPLE WHO DIED.
03:12:03 ONE I WASN'T CLOSE WITH.
03:12:05 ONE PERSON I DID KNOW.
03:12:07 WONDERFUL PERSON.
03:12:07 56 YEARS OLD, DEAD, BEFORE THE VACCINE WAS AVAILABLE.
03:12:12 NOW FAST-FORWARD IN 2021, IF SOMEBODY WERE TO ASK ME THE
03:12:15 SAME QUESTION, DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT'S HAD COVID?
03:12:18 A LOT OF PEOPLE.
03:12:18 VACCINATED OR NOT.
03:12:19 DO YOU KNOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE DIED?
03:12:22 THE LIST KEEPS GROWING AND GROWING.
03:12:23 AND IT COULD BE PEOPLE THAT ARE CLOSE TO MY AGE.
03:12:27 PEOPLE IN THEIR 70s.
03:12:28 I HEAR THE STORIES FROM THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS WHEN THEY SAY
03:12:31 THEY WENT INTO THE HOSPITAL.
03:12:33 WE NEVER SAW THEM AGAIN UNTIL THE FURNITURE.
03:12:35 OR THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE, THEY WERE BEING INTUBATED AND PUT
03:12:39 ON A VENTILATOR.
03:12:40 I CAN'T IMAGINE THE SUFFERING OF THESE FAMILIES.
03:12:44 I KNOW PEOPLE NOW THAT HAVE COVID, RECOVERING FROM COVID AND
03:12:49 THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN THAT SICK IN THEIR LIFE.
03:12:51 NOW I'M SEEING CLOSER IN MY WORLD, PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED
03:12:56 BY IT.
03:12:57 BUT IF WE'RE EVER GOING TO GET THROUGH THIS, I DON'T
03:13:00 UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S A POLITICAL BATTLE, POLITICAL FIGHT.
03:13:04 IF YOU GET VACCINATED, IT'S HELPFUL TO SOLVING THE PROBLEM.
03:13:09 IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET VACCINATED, DON'T GET VACCINATED.
03:13:12 I BELIEVE IN PERSONAL FREEDOM.
03:13:14 I HAVE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT FINE.
03:13:16 BUT IT'S TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
03:13:17 IF IT'S WEARING A MASK OR WASHING YOUR HANDS OR GETTING THE
03:13:20 VACCINE OR NOT GETTING THE VACCINE, JUST BEING CAREFUL,
03:13:23 WE'RE DOING IT FOR EACH OTHER.
03:13:24 WE ALL SAY WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER.
03:13:27 YES, WE ARE, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP EACH OTHER SAFE
03:13:30 AND HEALTHY.
03:13:30 WE DO WHAT WE CAN TO GET PAST THIS.
03:13:33 IT SEEMS LIKE THE WORLD STOPPED AROUND MARCH 2020.
03:13:36 IT WAS LIKE THE LAST BITS OF NORMALCY THAT WE KNEW BECAUSE
03:13:39 WE WOULD HEAR, THIS CORONAVIRUS, NOW THE NUMBERS ARE RISING
03:13:44 HERE AND HERE AND HERE.
03:13:45 AFTER MARCH WE SAW THINGS GETTING SHUT DOWN AND CLOSED DOWN.
03:13:50 THE WORLD REALLY HASN'T BEEN THE SAME.
03:13:52 WE'VE GONE BACK TO SOME TYPE OF NORMALCY, BUT WE'RE STILL A
03:13:56 WAYS AWAY TO WHAT LIFE WAS BEFORE MARCH 2020 OR IN 2019.
03:14:02 I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
03:14:05 IF THEY DON'T WANT TO, THEN DON'T DO IT.
03:14:08 I CAN'T FORCE YOU.
03:14:09 I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR HAS TRIED SINCE THE BEGINNING AS WE
03:14:13 CALL IT FLATTENING THE CURVE AND OTHER PEOPLE AND OTHER
03:14:17 POSITIONS OF LEADERSHIP TO GET PAST THIS.
03:14:20 TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED.
03:14:22 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID IT.
03:14:23 ALMOST TWICE THE POPULATION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:14:25 IMAGINE, AN EMPTY CITY.
03:14:27 EVERYBODY THAT YOU KNOW IN THE CITY GONE, DEAD, DISAPPEARED,
03:14:31 AND THAT'S WHAT COVID HAS DONE.
03:14:32 I THINK SOMEBODY, I READ SOMEWHERE IT WAS LIKE THE
03:14:35 POPULATION OF LOS ANGELES.
03:14:37 IMAGINE LOS ANGELES EMPTY.
03:14:39 THAT'S HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED.
03:14:41 SO WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY.
03:14:43 I KNOW MANY OF US DO.
03:14:45 I KNOW WE ALL DO IN THIS ROOM.
03:14:47 I CERTAINLY WOULD SUPPORT WHATEVER THE MOTION IS.
03:14:49 THANK YOU.
03:14:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. MANISCALCO.
03:14:52 MR. CHAIRMAN, WE KNOW YOU HAD TO STEP OUT FOR IMPORTANT CITY
03:14:55 BUSINESS MATTER.
03:14:56 WE'RE ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT, 97.
03:15:01 CHIEF TRIPP GAVE US AN EXCELLENT UPDATE.
03:15:04 SAID COVID NUMBERS ARE LOOKING BETTER.
03:15:05 THE MOTION FROM MR. VIERA ON THE FLOOR, SECONDED BY MR.
03:15:08 CITRO IS TO JUST SEND VERBALLY A MESSAGE TO THE MAYOR FROM
03:15:14 THIS COUNCIL THAT WE SUPPORT HER WHOLEHEARTEDLY ON HER COVID
03:15:17 EFFORTS.
03:15:17 INCLUDING THE EMPLOYEE DIRECTIVES.
03:15:23 VIERA AND SECONDED BY MR. CITRO.
03:15:27 AND WE ARE WRAPPING UP DISCUSSION.
03:15:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GO AHEAD, MR. VIERA.
03:15:30 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
03:15:32 I'M SO GLAD YOU CAME IN THE ROOM, SIR.
03:15:34 YOU'VE BEEN AFFECTED BY THIS.
03:15:36 I WANTED TO SAY THAT.
03:15:38 ONE OTHER THING, IT'S FUNNY, WE'RE COMING ON 80 YEARS OF
03:15:42 PEARL HARBOR, DECEMBER 7, 2021 WILL BE 80 YEARS.
03:15:45 A LOT OF PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY, WE HAD SOMETHING BIG HIT OUR
03:15:50 COUNTRY, WOULD WE COME TOGETHER?
03:15:53 WELL, THIS IS IT.
03:15:54 THIS IS IT.
03:15:56 700,000 AMERICANS' LIVES HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE OF
03:16:01 THIS.
03:16:02 THIS IS SOMETHING FOR ME, WHEN I THINK ABOUT COVID AND THE
03:16:04 PRECAUTIONS THAT WE'RE TAKING, I DON'T THINK ABOUT BEING A
03:16:08 DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN.
03:16:09 I THINK ABOUT JUST BEING AN AMERICAN AND THAT WE'RE TRYING
03:16:13 TO COME TOGETHER, THAT WE'RE ALL IN THIS THING TOGETHER.
03:16:16 WE'RE ALL IN THIS THING TOGETHER AS AMERICANS.
03:16:18 TO ME, THIS ISN'T LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE.
03:16:22 IT'S ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND HAVING EACH OTHER'S BACKS AS
03:16:26 AMERICANS.
03:16:26 IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
03:16:27 THANK YOU.
03:16:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY MORE DISCUSSION?
03:16:31 MOTION MADE BY MR. VIERA.
03:16:32 SECONDED BY MR. CITRO.
03:16:33 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:16:34 THE MOTION CARRIED.
03:16:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
03:16:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY MORE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES?
03:16:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 104, WAS THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
03:16:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
03:16:43 >>CHIEF TRIPP: THANK YOU ALL.
03:16:44 HAVE A GREAT AFTERNOON.
03:16:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE'RE TO 104, MR. SHELBY, YOU SAID?
03:16:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ASK THE CLERK IF SHE KNOWS OF ANY OTHER
03:16:54 ONES.
03:16:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LAST ONE IS 104.
03:16:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 104, I'M COMFORTABLE -- YES, SIR.
03:17:01 I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE MEMO PROVIDED.
03:17:03 I'M GOING TO WORK WITH NEIGHBORHOOD FOLKS TO GO AHEAD AND
03:17:07 GET THAT STARTED AND HAVE AN ANNUAL MARGARET VIZZI
03:17:12 NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER AWARD GIVEN OUT TO FOUR LEADERS SPREAD
03:17:16 ACROSS THE CITY IN FOUR DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
03:17:18 I'M NOT PICKING THE LEADERS.
03:17:20 BUT WE'RE JUST GOING TO START THE PROCESS.
03:17:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO ADDITIONAL REPORT.
03:17:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
03:17:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. WYNN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY OR
03:17:31 ARE YOU GOOD?
03:17:32 >>OCEA WYNN: NO, SIR.
03:17:33 YES, I'M GOOD.
03:17:34 I'M HERE AND AVAILABLE IN CASE YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS
03:17:39 PERTAINING TO THE MEMO OR AWARD.
03:17:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE'LL RECEIVE AND FILE WITH EVERYTHING
03:17:45 ELSE.
03:17:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, WE'VE COME TO THAT TIME NOW.
03:17:49 MR. VIERA, ANYTHING, SIR?
03:17:51 >>LUIS VIERA: [OFF MICROPHONE] -- A PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER
03:18:03 PLAN.
03:18:03 AND I WANTED TO MOTION FOR JUST TO COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS
03:18:08 FOR AN UPDATE ON THAT ON MARCH 17 DURING THE REGULAR SESSION
03:18:11 JUST FOR AN UPDATE.
03:18:12 IT CAN BE WRITTEN, MAYBE WE'LL DO IT, BUT JUST FOR AN
03:18:17 UPDATE.
03:18:17 THAT'S ALL.
03:18:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA HAS MADE A MOTION, PUBLIC SAFETY
03:18:23 PLAN.
03:18:24 SECOND ON THAT?
03:18:25 SECONDED BY MR. CITRO.
03:18:26 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:18:28 OPPOSED?
03:18:29 >>LUIS VIERA: MARCH 17.
03:18:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
03:18:35 JUST TO CLARIFY, MARCH 17, UNDER STAFF REPORTS, THIS IS WHAT
03:18:39 IT SAYS ON THE CALENDAR.
03:18:41 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TAMPA FIRE RESCUE TO PRESENT AN
03:18:44 ANNUAL REPORT ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
03:18:47 >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S ALREADY THERE?
03:18:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME SHOW YOU.
03:18:53 IS THAT YOUR MOTION?
03:18:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE I MOTIONED THIS A WHILE
03:19:02 AGO AND FORGOT.
03:19:04 THANK YOU.
03:19:05 CHEERFULLY WITHDRAWN.
03:19:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO WITHDRAW.
03:19:08 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
03:19:10 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:19:11 AYE.
03:19:11 WITHDRAWN.
03:19:11 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING ELSE, SIR.
03:19:13 THANK YOU.
03:19:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.
03:19:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:19:20 I'M SURE YOU ALREADY KNOW BECAUSE YOU'RE QUICK ON THIS, BUT
03:19:23 I SEE BREAKING NEWS HERE.
03:19:26 SUNI BELL, WAS SHE THE YOUNG GIRL KILLED, MULTIPLE ARRESTS
03:19:31 MADE.
03:19:32 FIVE SUSPECTS HAVE BEEN INDICTED.
03:19:33 JUST CAME OUT.
03:19:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE NEED CHIEF DELGADO TO MAKE SURE SHE
03:19:40 CALLS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND UPDATE. I NEED AN UPDATE ON THAT.
03:19:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT.
03:19:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
03:19:49 >>BILL CARLSON: NOTHING, SIR.
03:19:50 THANK YOU.
03:19:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BECAUSE COUNCILMAN VIERA HAD SUCH LITTLE, I
03:19:56 THINK I WILL TAKE HIS TIME.
03:19:58 NO, JUST KIDDING.
03:19:59 NOTHING TODAY.
03:20:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER.
03:20:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MAKE UP FOR THE SLACKERS.
03:20:04 ON A LIGHTER NOTE, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO DURING THE
03:20:10 OLYMPICS WE HAD A LOCAL OLYMPIAN, ERRIYON KNIGHTON, FROM
03:20:16 HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL.
03:20:20 HE'S UP IN GAINESVILLE AT UF TRAINING.
03:20:23 BACK THEN WE APPROVED A COMMENDATION AND SUBJECT TO HIS
03:20:27 AVAILABILITY.
03:20:28 HIS MOTHER TELLS US HE WILL BE IN TOWN ON 10/21 BRIEFLY, AND
03:20:35 I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THE COMMENDATION.
03:20:36 MAKE IT VERY FAST.
03:20:39 I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER COMMENDATIONS.
03:20:41 BUT MINE WAS FIRST IN LINE AND FIRST IN TIME.
03:20:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY COMMENDATIONS DO WE HAVE?
03:20:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR COMMENDATIONS
03:20:56 PRESENTATION BY SHERRY SILK AND PRESENTATION UPDATE BY
03:20:59 F.D.O.T.
03:21:00 STAFF REPORTS LISTED.
03:21:03 I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO REMOVE SOMETHING THAT WE MOTIONED
03:21:06 ITEM 101 TO THE 21st TO PUT THAT OFF UNTIL NOVEMBER.
03:21:11 AND I AM GOING TO REMIND COUNCIL, THERE IS NO NIGHT MEETING,
03:21:14 BUT YOU MAY HAVE TO BREAK FOR DINNER BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO
03:21:18 YOUR STAFF REPORTS, YOU HAVE A TIME CERTAIN REVIEW HEARING
03:21:21 AT 1:30 IN THE AFTERNOON, WHICH COUNCIL SPECIALLY SCHEDULED
03:21:25 THAT I AM TOLD IS GOING TO BE -- I DON'T WANT TO USE THE
03:21:27 WORD CONTENTIOUS, BUT PERHAPS VERY ENGAGING.
03:21:31 IT'S COUNCIL'S CALENDAR, BUT I'M SAYING TO BE PREPARED TO GO
03:21:34 INTO THE EVENING ON THE 21st EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T HAVE A
03:21:38 NIGHT MEETING.
03:21:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TWO THINGS, ONE, A SHOUT-OUT TO
03:21:44 MS. CINDY.
03:21:46 SHE PINCHED HIT THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
03:21:48 TODAY IS HER LAST MEETING.
03:21:50 TOMORROW IS HER LAST DAY.
03:21:51 I JUST WANTED -- IN DEFERENCE TO HER, I WANTED TO PUT
03:21:57 MR. KNIGHTON'S COMMENDATION ON BECAUSE SHE'S PUSHING HARD ON
03:22:00 THAT AND SHE'LL NEVER LET ME FORGET IT IF I DON'T GET IT
03:22:04 THROUGH.
03:22:04 MR. KNIGHTON'S COMMENDATION ON 10/21 IS MY MOTION.
03:22:08 >> SECOND.
03:22:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE A MOTION MR. DINGFELDER.
03:22:12 SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
03:22:14 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:22:15 ANY OPPOSED?
03:22:17 SO MOVED.
03:22:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SADDER NOTE AND MENTIONED A FEW TIMES
03:22:21 BRIEFLY BUT WANT TO GIVE INFORMATION, WE LOST A WONDERFUL
03:22:24 CITY GUY.
03:22:26 THOM SNELLING.
03:22:30 THOM DIED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
03:22:36 ANYWAY, WE CAN GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS LATER ON.
03:22:40 HIS SERVICE WILL BE ON OCTOBER 9th AT SACRED HEART,
03:22:47 SATURDAY 10 IN THE MORNING.
03:22:49 THOM SNELLING I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS, PROBABLY HAD
03:22:54 DECADES WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:22:55 HE WAS OUR NUMBER ONE PLANNING DIRECTOR, PLANNING
03:22:59 ADMINISTRATOR.
03:23:00 HELD VARIOUS TITLES OVER MANY, MANY YEARS.
03:23:03 JUST A GOOD GO-TO GUY.
03:23:05 ALWAYS WILLING TO TAKE YOUR CALL.
03:23:08 ALWAYS WILLING TO TALK.
03:23:10 ALWAYS WILLING TO WORK THINGS OUT AND WORKING HARD FOR THIS
03:23:15 CITY.
03:23:15 I KNOW HE WAS A WONDERFUL HUSBAND AND FATHER.
03:23:18 HAD RECENTLY RETIRED AND SETTLED IN A NEW HOUSE UP IN
03:23:23 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
03:23:23 OUR REGRETS GO OUT TO HIS WIFE AND FAMILY.
03:23:26 AGAIN, SACRED HEART, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 9th AT 10 IN THE
03:23:31 MORNING.
03:23:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD GUY.
03:23:35 GOOD GUY.
03:23:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S ALL.
03:23:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
03:23:39 I HAVE ONE.
03:23:39 FOR 75 YEARS, MR. TAMPA IRON AND STEEL HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS
03:23:45 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:23:45 I'D LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO MR. BOB CLARK, FOR
03:23:49 HIMSELF AND HIS COMPANY DOING OUTSTANDING WORK FOR 75 YEARS.
03:23:52 NOT TOO MANY BUSINESSES OPEN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR 75
03:23:56 YEARS.
03:23:57 MAKE IT SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER.
03:23:58 OCTOBER I THINK IS FULL.
03:23:59 I DON'T WANT TO INTERFERE WITH MR. DINGFELDER.
03:24:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ESPECIALLY IF BOB CLARK TALKED TO YOU.
03:24:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, HE IS A
03:24:07 CHARACTER.
03:24:08 HE IS A VERY SHARP INDIVIDUAL.
03:24:10 THE STORY GOES, WHAT I HEARD THE OTHER NIGHT, IT'S
03:24:12 IMPOSSIBLE TO DO WHAT HE DID IN THIS ERA, AND HE'S DONE IT.
03:24:15 NOVEMBER 4.
03:24:19 >> SECOND.
03:24:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOVEMBER 4 HAS A COMMENDATION FOR POLICE
03:24:26 OFFICER OF THE MONTH, FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER,
03:24:28 FIVE-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON TAMPA BAY THRIVES ON MENTAL
03:24:31 HEALTH.
03:24:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CLARK, 75 YEARS.
03:24:39 MR. DINGFELDER IS THE SECONDER.
03:24:41 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:24:42 ANY OPPOSED?
03:24:43 GOOD FRIEND OF MINE PASSED AWAY IN THE LAST WEEK.
03:24:53 RADIO PERSONALITY DEEJAY RANDALL C.
03:24:58 HE WAS THE GOSPEL DEEJAY ON SUNDAYS.
03:25:00 VERY SAD.
03:25:04 THE COMMUNITY IS VERY SADDENED BY THAT.
03:25:07 I'LL MAKE THE COMMENDATION NEXT WEEK AND FIND OUT WHEN THE
03:25:11 SERVICES ARE.
03:25:12 DO THAT NEXT WEEK.
03:25:13 I WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT HE'S PASSED
03:25:16 AWAY.
03:25:16 GENTLEMEN, I TALKED TO MR. SHELBY EARLIER, I KEEP SAYING THE
03:25:22 CITY IS GETTING BIGGER.
03:25:24 AIN'T GETTING SMALLER.
03:25:26 AT SOME POINT, THIS COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS.
03:25:32 LOOK WHAT TIME IT IS.
03:25:34 AT SOME POINT, LOOK AT THE COMMENDATIONS WE'RE GIVING.
03:25:36 LOOK AT HOW LONG WE TALK TO EXPRESS OUR DEEPEST HEARTFELT
03:25:40 CONGRATULATIONS TO SOME OF THESE FOLKS GETTING THE
03:25:43 COMMENDATIONS, SOME OF THE PRESENTATIONS, NEW IDEAS, A LOT
03:25:45 OF THINGS COMING INTO THE CITY.
03:25:47 I WANT YOU GENTLEMEN TO START LOOKING AT SOME IDEAS.
03:25:55 HAVE MR. SHELBY TALK TO YOU GENTLEMEN ABOUT SOME IDEAS.
03:26:00 LOOK AT THE REVIEW HEARINGS.
03:26:01 THE TIMES.
03:26:05 I'M LOOKING AT HOW -- IF I HAD NOT HAD THOSE REVIEW
03:26:10 HEARINGS, WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE FINISHED A LITTLE BIT
03:26:13 EARLIER, BUT WE HAD SO MUCH.
03:26:16 YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LONG PEOPLE WILL TAKE, HOW MANY PEOPLE
03:26:18 WILL COME.
03:26:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN DISAGREEMENT IN
03:26:22 TOTAL.
03:26:23 BUT THE REVIEW HEARINGS, I'VE ALWAYS SAID IN THE PAST, THEY
03:26:26 SHOULD BE HANDLED BY THE COURTS.
03:26:28 YOU SEE HOW MUCH SMARTER THEY GET WHEN THEY GO TO REVIEW
03:26:32 BECAUSE IT COST ALMOST NOTHING TO COME HERE.
03:26:34 WHEN YOU GO TO THE COURT SYSTEM, IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
03:26:37 YOU GO TO FILE, YOU BETTER MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
03:26:40 WIN.
03:26:41 YOU BETTER MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS WITH YOU.
03:26:43 IF YOU GO TO COURT, IT WILL COST YOU A FEW BUCKS MORE.
03:26:46 THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY.
03:26:47 >>BILL CARLSON: I SECOND THAT.
03:26:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MEAN IT SERIOUSLY.
03:26:51 WE SHOULD NOT BE HEARING REVIEW CASES.
03:26:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, I'LL ASK YOU SIR, SO YOU CAN
03:26:57 UNDERSTAND MY DIRECTIVE, TO GET WITH EACH COUNCIL MEMBER,
03:27:00 LOOK AT A PLAN, AND THEN WE'LL SIT DOWN AND SEE WHAT THE
03:27:05 FINAL THREE OBJECTIVES ARE AND COME WITH A PLAN TO COUNCIL.
03:27:09 IT'S OUR HOUSE.
03:27:10 NOT THE STAFF OR WHOEVER.
03:27:11 IT IS OUR HOUSE TO DICTATE HOW WE RUN THE COUNCIL TO DO THE
03:27:15 PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.
03:27:16 AGAIN, WE'RE RUNNING BEHIND.
03:27:17 LUCKILY, WE'VE GOT TO GET A LITTLE BREAK HERE TO GET READY
03:27:21 FOR TONIGHT BECAUSE TONIGHT WILL BE FULL PACKED, AS YOU
03:27:24 KNOW.
03:27:24 COULD BE A LATE, LATE NIGHT TONIGHT.
03:27:27 MR. CITRO.
03:27:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AGREE AND MENTIONED THIS BEFORE,
03:27:32 ESPECIALLY OUR EVENING SESSIONS.
03:27:33 WE HEAR CONTINUANCES AND THEY ARE GETTING PUSHED OUT FIVE,
03:27:36 SIX MONTHS.
03:27:37 THEN FILLING A SPOT FOR SOMEONE WHO WANTS A NEW CASE TO BE
03:27:41 HEARD, SO THEY GET PUSHED OUT.
03:27:43 AGAIN, IT'S TIME WE START MEETING AT LEAST ONE MORE EVENING
03:27:47 A MONTH, MINIMUM.
03:27:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ERNIE BANKS ONCE SAID HE LOVES BASEBALL
03:27:53 SO MUCH HE LOVED TO PLAY HITTERS.
03:27:55 I FEEL THE SAME WAY ERNIE BANKS FEELS.
03:27:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.
03:27:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL SUPPORT WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MOVE
03:28:02 THINGS ALONG.
03:28:02 THE MORE TIME I SPEND IN CITY HALL, THE HAPPIER MY LIFE IS.
03:28:06 [ LAUGHTER ]
03:28:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE YOU GO.
03:28:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU HAVE A LOT OF TIME.
03:28:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHATEVER IT TAKES TO KEEP THINGS GOING.
03:28:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, AGAIN, MY DIRECTIVE TO YOU IS
03:28:18 GET WITH EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, COME UP WITH IDEAS, SIT DOWN,
03:28:21 PUT THEM TOGETHER AND COME BACK AND MAKE A DECISION ON HOW
03:28:24 WE WILL RUN CITY COUNCIL MOVING FORWARD.
03:28:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, AT YOUR DIRECTION, I WILL SET
03:28:29 UP MEETINGS WITH EACH COUNCIL MEMBER THROUGH THEIR
03:28:32 LEGISLATIVE AIDE.
03:28:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
03:28:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
03:28:35 I JUST WANT TO, IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, ITEM NUMBER 101 IS
03:28:42 SOMETHING THAT WAS A REQUEST BY THE ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE
03:28:48 MS. POST WAS UNAVAILABLE, IT'S AN ITEM NUMBER 101 WAS
03:28:53 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S MOTION ORIGINALLY REGARDING A
03:28:57 NEIGHBORHOOD PROPOSAL TEXT AMENDMENT, AND THEY REQUESTED
03:29:00 OCTOBER 21st DURING AGENDA APPROVAL -- APPROVAL OF THE
03:29:04 AGENDA.
03:29:05 YOU CONTINUED THAT, BUT THEN, COUNCIL, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY
03:29:07 ATTENTION AGAIN THAT THAT IS LIKELY TO BE SOMETHING THAT
03:29:10 WILL TAKE TIME.
03:29:12 OCTOBER 21st IS VERY FULL.
03:29:14 SO I'M ASKING THAT MOTION TO BE AMENDED OR REVISED --
03:29:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO WE HAVE A PLANNING WORKSHOP, PLANNING
03:29:21 ISSUES WORKSHOP?
03:29:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OH, THAT'S GOING TO BE A REAL FULL ONE,
03:29:24 TOO.
03:29:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW.
03:29:26 BUT IT'S A PLANNING ISSUE.
03:29:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT IS A PLANNING ISSUE.
03:29:29 AND THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR PLANNING -- PLANNING IS SCHEDULED
03:29:32 FOR THE 28th.
03:29:33 IF YOU LOOK AT THAT CALENDAR, JUST A REMINDER, YOU HAVE
03:29:37 ANOTHER NIGHT MEETING THAT STARTS AT 5:00.
03:29:39 IF YOU ADD SOMETHING TO THE 28th, AND CERTAINLY YOU CAN IF
03:29:45 THEY WANT IT CONTINUED, IF YOU WANT IT CONTINUED, WE CAN DO
03:29:48 THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN IF THAT'S THE DATE YOU WANT TO
03:29:50 ASK.
03:29:51 I'M ASKING IT TO BE REMOVED FROM THE 21st CALENDAR, UNLESS
03:29:54 YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT THERE AND THEN ULTIMATELY HAVE IT
03:29:57 CONTINUED.
03:29:57 I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT -- BECAUSE I DID NOT REALIZE WHEN
03:30:01 THIS CAME UP THIS MORNING --
03:30:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT IS A GOOD DAY, MR. SHELBY?
03:30:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON THE 28th, BUT THEY DIDN'T RECOMMEND
03:30:08 THE 28th.
03:30:09 THEY RECOMMENDED A REGULAR COUNCIL DAY.
03:30:10 THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL DAY AFTER THE 21st IS NOVEMBER
03:30:14 4th.
03:30:15 THAT LOOKS PRETTY LIGHT COMPARATIVELY.
03:30:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS RANDY OR CAROLE POST ON THE LINE?
03:30:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I TRIED TO CONTACT CAROLE POST.
03:30:23 THEN I READ THE MEMO AND IT SAYS SHE IS NOT AVAILABLE.
03:30:26 IT SAYS SHE NEEDS TO BE PRESENT, AND SHE IS NOT PRESENT
03:30:31 TODAY.
03:30:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET'S JUST SET IT AND IF THEY DON'T LIKE
03:30:35 IT, THEY CAN COME BACK AND CHANGE IT.
03:30:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVING IT TO NOVEMBER 4.
03:30:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER MOVED IT TO NOVEMBER 4.
03:30:43 SECONDED BY MR. CARLSON.
03:30:44 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:30:45 OPPOSED?
03:30:49 NOVEMBER 4 IT IS.
03:30:49 THANK YOU.
03:30:50 MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, YOUR HAND WAS RAISED.
03:30:54 >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE]
03:31:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE'LL MAKE IT NOW SINCE YOU'RE ASKING.
03:31:03 RANDY C. MILLNER. I THINK IT'S M-I-L-L-N-E-R.
03:31:10 RANDY C. MILLNER.
03:31:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND BY THE
03:31:16 CHAIRMAN TO RECOGNIZE RANDY MILLNER WITH A COMMENDATION
03:31:20 OUTSIDE OF THIS CHAMBERS.
03:31:22 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
03:31:24 ANY OPPOSED?
03:31:24 MOTION CARRIED.
03:31:26 >> RECEIVE AND FILE.
03:31:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RANDALL, NOT RANDY.
03:31:30 RANDALL C.
03:31:32 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE, MR. MANISCALCO.
03:31:34 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
03:31:35 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:31:36 ALL RIGHT.
03:31:37 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
03:31:38 WE'RE ADJOURNED.
03:31:39 5:01.
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