TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 30, 2021
5:01 P.M.
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05:03:03
05:05:26 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
05:05:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
05:05:31 I CALL TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.
05:05:33 [OFF MICROPHONE.]
05:05:38 ROLL CALL.
05:05:38 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:05:39 >>LUIS VIERA: (NO AUDIBLE RESPONSE)
05:05:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:05:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: (NO AUDIBLE RESPONSE)
05:05:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
05:05:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:05:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
05:05:48 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:05:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY.
05:06:05 >> THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS BEING CONDUCTED WITH A LIVE
05:06:08 IN-PERSON QUORUM WITH CITY COUNCIL PRESENT IN CITY COUNCIL
05:06:13 CHAMBERS.
05:06:14 HOWEVER, IN LIGHT OF CONTINUING COVID-19 GOVERNMENT-ISSUED
05:06:14 HEALTH STANDARDS OR GUIDANCE NOW IN EFFECT, MEMBERS OF THE
05:06:18 PUBLIC HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY BY VIDEO
05:06:23 TELECONFERENCING, REFERRED TO BY FLORIDA STATUE AND RULES AS
05:06:24 COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, OR CMT.
05:06:25 THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL BE ABLE TO
05:06:25 WATCH, LISTEN OR VIEW THIS MEETING ON:
05:06:35 CABLE TV: SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640
05:06:35 FRONTIER CHANNEL 15
05:06:35 INTERNET: HTTPS://WWW.TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM, ONE WORD.
05:06:37 NOW, THERE HAS BEEN MULTIPLE WAYS THAT THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO
05:06:41 PARTICIPATE, AND THOSE ARE FOUND ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB
05:06:50 PAGE, TAMPAGOV.NET/CITYCOUNCIL, ONE WORD.
05:06:52 IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY THROUGH CMT,
05:06:55 PREREGISTRATION WAS REQUIRED, AND THAT INFORMATION ON HOW TO
05:07:00 DO THAT AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS AT TAMPA.GOV/QUASI.
05:07:08 NOW, COUNCIL, THERE HAVE BEEN OPPORTUNITIES TO SEND IN
05:07:13 COMMENTS IN ADVANCE VIA U.S. MAIL AND E-MAIL, AND WRITTEN
05:07:18 COMMENTS RECEIVED BY E-MAIL OR U.S. MAIL HAVE BEEN
05:07:22 DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL, AND THE COMMENTS WILL BE
05:07:24 INCLUDED IN THE PERMANENT RECORD OF THE MEETING.
05:07:28 ALL COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE BEING AFFORDED EQUAL CONSIDERATION
05:07:31 OR SHOULD BE AFFORDED EQUAL CONSIDERATION AS IF THE COMMENTS
05:07:35 WERE MADE IN PERSON.
05:07:36 I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING
05:07:40 ON THE "GO TO MEETING" PLATFORM, REMOTELY, PLEASE DO NOT USE
05:07:44 THE CHAT BOX TO COMMUNITY WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
05:07:47 THAT'S FOR TECHNICAL ISSUES ONLY.
05:07:48 AGAIN DO NOT COMMUNICATE USING THE CHAT BOX.
05:07:51 ALL OF THESE RULES THAT I HAVE TALKED ABOUT, CMT, HAVE BEEN
05:07:58 PLACED IN THE NOTICE THAT HAS BEEN POSTED AND ALSO WITHIN
05:08:00 THE AGENDA, AND I WOULD ASK CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOTION TO
05:08:03 ADOPT THOSE RULES, THE CMT ASSOCIATED RULES AS PART OF THE
05:08:09 MEETING, PLEASE.
05:08:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED.
05:08:14 MR. CITRO SECONDS.
05:08:15 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:08:16 ANY OPPOSED?
05:08:18 MOTION CARRIES.
05:08:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AFTER YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS,
05:08:21 MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE JENNIFER MALONE WILL BE DISCUSSING
05:08:25 WITH COUNCIL SOME OF THE HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS ON TONIGHT'S
05:08:28 AGENDA.
05:08:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA IS ONLINE NOW.
05:08:34 AND MR. DINGFELDER WILL BE ABOUT 15 MINUTES LATE.
05:08:39 ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
05:08:43 MOVED BY MR. CITRO.
05:08:48 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? WE ARE
05:08:49 OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
05:08:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN, BEFORE MS. MALONE BEGINS, WITH
05:08:54 ITEM NUMBER 1, IF YOU CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONTINUANCES,
05:08:57 OR OTHER HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS. MOVING THINGS UP ON THE
05:09:00 AGENDA MAY HAVE BEEN REQUESTED.
05:09:01 MS. MALONE.
05:09:02 >>JENNIFER MALONE: GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN.
05:09:05 ITEM NUMBER 7, TA/CPA 21-14, THE APPLICANTS REQUESTED A
05:09:10 CONTINUANCE, AS WELL AS ITEM NUMBER 12, TA/CPA 21-13, AND I
05:09:15 BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE HERE TO REQUEST THOSE TO YOU TONIGHT.
05:09:18 I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT --
05:09:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
05:09:23 MAY WE TAKE THOSE ONE AT A TIME?
05:09:26 UNLESS THEY ARE ACTUALLY RELATED IN SOME FORM OR FASHION.
05:09:28 BECAUSE EACH ONE REQUIRES A SEPARATE VOTE.
05:09:30 >>JENNIFER MALONE: SHOULD WE SAVE THAT FOR THE RECORD THEN?
05:09:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, LET'S TAKE THEM SEPARATELY AND THEN
05:09:41 MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.
05:09:44 >>JENNIFER MALONE: ITEM NUMBER 7, TA/CPA 21-17 IS
05:09:45 REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE.
05:09:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE ITEM 7 BE CONTINUED TO JANUARY 20
05:09:55 OF 2022.
05:09:56 >> SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. YES, MR. SHELBY?
05:09:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE COULD ALSO STATE THE TIME, PLEASE.
05:10:00 AND --
05:10:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD IMAGINE AT 6:00 IN THE EVENING.
05:10:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA. 6:00?
05:10:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM NUMBER 7 AT 6:00, BECAUSE COUNCIL HAS
05:10:18 NOT MADE A DECISION AS TO WHAT TIME IT WANTS TO BEGIN AFTER
05:10:22 THE FIRST OF THE NEW YEAR.
05:10:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 7 AT 6:00. MR. MANISCALCO
05:10:27 SECONDED IT.
05:10:27 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:10:30 OPPOSED?
05:10:30 MOTION CARRIED.
05:10:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT AGAIN IS JANUARY 20th.
05:10:33 THANK YOU.
05:10:34 >>JENNIFER MALONE: ITEM NUMBER 12, TA/CPA 21-13, THE
05:10:44 APPLICANT REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE BUT I DO NOT KNOW TO WHICH
05:10:48 DATE THEY ARE GOING TO REQUEST SO I AM GOING TO HAND IT OVER
05:10:50 TO THE APPLICANT.
05:10:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ONLINE, ON THE
05:10:54 SECOND FLOOR OR REGISTERED?
05:10:56 >>THE CLERK: YES.
05:11:01 SHE'S ONLINE, IF YOU COULD UNMUTE YOURSELF AND ALSO TURN ON
05:11:05 THE VIDEO.
05:11:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TURN THE VIDEO ON, MA'AM.
05:11:21 MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, DO WE HAVE HER?
05:11:28 >> YES.
05:11:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
05:11:29 >> CLICK ON THE MIKE ICON.
05:11:48 >> I FIGURED IT OUT.
05:11:49 MY NAME IS TERESA CADDICK. I'M PRESIDENT OF SHOWMEN'S REST,
05:11:56 INC., A NOT-FOR-PROFIT, CHARGED WITH MANAGING AND CARING FOR
05:11:59 THE SHOWMEN'S REST CEMETERY WHICH IS THE RESTING PLACE FOR
05:12:03 THE MEMBERS OF THE SHOWMEN'S ASSOCIATION.
05:12:08 WE ARE HERE TONIGHT THIS EVENING TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A
05:12:12 CONTINUANCE UNTIL FEBRUARY 22ND, 2022, TO ALLOW US MORE TIME
05:12:18 TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO
05:12:22 SHARE OUR PLAN.
05:12:24 THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS SWIRLING AROUND AT
05:12:32 THIS POINT, AND EXPECT THE PROPERTY IS PART OF WOODLAWN
05:12:39 CEMETERY, WHICH IT'S NOT, AND REMAINS BURIED ON THE PROPERTY
05:12:46 IN PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 --
05:12:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
05:12:49 I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
05:12:53 >> THAT'S FINE.
05:12:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY NAME IS MARTIN SHELBY.
05:12:56 I'M THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
05:12:57 RATHER THAN GET INTO THE FACTS TONIGHT --
05:13:00 >> OKAY.
05:13:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND DID YOU SAY FEBRUARY 22ND?
05:13:07 >> THAT'S THE REQUEST, THEY SAID THAT WAS THE EARLIEST
05:13:11 AVAILABLE.
05:13:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE HAVE FEBRUARY 24th WHICH IS A
05:13:16 THURSDAY, ACCORDING TO THE CALENDAR.
05:13:18 THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 24.
05:13:22 COUNCIL DOES NOT MEET ON THE 22ND.
05:13:25 >> WELL, I JUST GOT SOME BAD INFORMATION, AND I RESPECTFULLY
05:13:30 REQUEST A CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 24th --
05:13:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW, YOU CAN STATE WHAT THE BASIS WOULD BE
05:13:35 WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE SPECIFIC FACTS OF THE MATTER
05:13:39 BECAUSE WE ARE OUTSIDE BEING ABLE TO BRING IT IN FOR A
05:13:42 HEARING BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS YOUR REQUEST FOR A
05:13:44 CONTINUANCE.
05:13:45 >> THANK YOU.
05:13:47 >> SO YOU DO WANT ME TO SAY WHY I WANT A CONTINUANCE?
05:13:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
05:13:58 >> WELL, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS.
05:14:05 I THINK THAT'S WHERE I WAS HEADED.
05:14:09 I FEEL LIKE AS THE APPLICANT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE TIME
05:14:12 TO GET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE HOMEOWNERS
05:14:16 ASSOCIATION, SHOW THE PLANS AS THE FACTS AS WE KNOW THEM
05:14:24 INSTEAD OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS THAT ARE GOING ON, AND WE FELT
05:14:29 THAT WITH THE CONTINUANCE, WITH MORE TIME, WE COULD CLEAR UP
05:14:34 A LOT OF THESE THINGS AND HAVE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY AND
05:14:40 WHAT WE WERE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH.
05:14:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IN FILE
05:14:51 TA/CPA 21-13 ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE UNTIL FEBRUARY 24, 2022
05:14:57 AT 6:00 P.M.
05:14:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
05:15:03 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:15:04 ANY OPPOSED?
05:15:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:15:08 AND CORRECT ME FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PERSPECTIVE
05:15:14 WITH REGARD TO NOTICE.
05:15:15 IF THERE IS PUBLIC, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE LISTENING,
05:15:18 WHETHER DOWNSTAIRS OR MAYBE THOSE REGISTERED ONLINE, AND THE
05:15:22 MATTER NOW IS CONTINUED, THE ONLY NOTICE THEY ARE RECEIVING
05:15:25 WILL BE THE NOTICE THAT THEY ARE HERE TONIGHT.
05:15:30 IS THAT CORRECT?
05:15:31 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, YES.
05:15:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU DON'T MIND, THIS ITEM AGAIN, THIS
05:15:36 ITEM NUMBER 12, WILL NOT BE HEARD TONIGHT, AND IT IS
05:15:43 CONTINUED BY CITY COUNCIL TO THE 24th OF FEBRUARY.
05:15:48 FEBRUARY 24th OF 2022 AT 6:00 P.M.
05:15:52 THERE WILL BE NO OTHER NOTICE GIVEN, SO PLEASE DO MAKE A
05:15:56 NOTE OF IT.
05:15:57 AND PLEASE NOTE THAT IF YOU ARE ONLINE, THE MATTER WILL NOT
05:16:01 BE HEARD TONIGHT, BUT HAS BEEN CONTINUED BY MOTION OF CITY
05:16:04 COUNCIL.
05:16:07 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:16:07 >> AND THANK YOU.
05:16:10 I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
05:16:11 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I HAVE TWO MORE HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS.
05:16:17 FIRST WE ARE REQUESTING THAT ITEM NUMBER 15 --
05:16:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. MALONE, ONE SECOND. IN CASE WE HAVE
05:16:24 ANYBODY ONLINE OR ANYBODY DOWNSTAIRS, THE PREVIOUS ITEM HAS
05:16:29 BEEN CONTINUED TO THE FEBRUARY 24th, 2022.
05:16:34 MS. MALONE, YOU MAY CONTINUE.
05:16:37 >>JENNIFER MALONE: WE ARE REQUESTING THAT ITEM 15, TA/CPA
05:16:44 21-21 MOVED TO NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA.
05:16:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 15, TO ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:16:54 ALL RIGHT.
05:16:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAS THERE ANOTHER ONE THAT ALSO HAD TO BE
05:16:58 MOVED UP?
05:16:59 >>JENNIFER MALONE: WE ARE ALSO REQUESTING THAT ITEM NUMBER
05:17:01 13, CIP AND CIS FOR 2021 IS MOVED TO ITEM NUMBER 2.
05:17:16 THANK YOU.
05:17:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANYTHING ELSE, MS. MALONE?
05:17:25 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THAT WAS IT.
05:17:28 AND THEN WHENEVER WE ARE READY TO TAKE ITEM NUMBER 1, TA/CPA
05:17:31 21-21, I WOULD LIKE PERMISSION TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
05:17:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MS. MALONE, ITEM NUMBER 15,
05:17:43 WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:17:45 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:17:54 I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MARK HUDSON.
05:18:02 >> MARK HUDSON, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:18:05 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
05:18:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
05:18:08 >> GREAT.
05:18:09 MARK HUDSON, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, HERE THIS EVENING TO
05:18:12 PRESENT TO YOU A PROPERTY RIGHT NOW FOR INCLUSION IN YOUR
05:18:15 IMAGINE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:18:19 JENNIFER, IF I COULD HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE.
05:18:22 THE REASON THAT I AM HERE THIS EVENING IS A NEW ELEMENT FOR
05:18:29 YOUR PLAN, SURROUNDING THE ISSUE OF PROPERTY RIGHTS.
05:18:33 THIS NEW ELEMENT IS REQUIRED BY SOME ACTION TAKEN DURING THE
05:18:37 LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION KNOWN AS HOUSE BILL 59.
05:18:41 GOVERNOR DESANTIS SIGNED THIS ON JUNE 29th AND IT BECAME
05:18:44 EFFECTIVE JULY 1st OF THIS YEAR.
05:18:47 THE ELEMENT IS DESIGNED TO ENSURE THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE
05:18:50 CONSIDERED, AND LOCAL DECISION-MAKING PROCESS IS IN TAMPA,
05:18:54 AND IT IMPACTS EVERY SINGLE JURISDICTION IN THE STATE OF
05:18:59 FLORIDA.
05:19:01 OUR STAFF AND YOUR STAFF HAS ANALYZED THIS AND WE TAKE THE
05:19:05 IMPACT OF THE SETTLEMENT AS RATHER LIMITED.
05:19:10 THE CITY IS MINDFUL TO PROTECT PROPERTY RIGHTS OF ITS
05:19:14 CITIZENS.
05:19:15 HOWEVER, THERE IS THIS INCLUDED IN YOUR LANGUAGE NOW.
05:19:19 THERE IS A PENALTY FOR FAILURE TO DO SO, AND PRIMARILY WHAT
05:19:23 IT DOES IS IT IMPOSES DELAYS IN THE PROCESSING OF OTHER
05:19:28 PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PLANNED AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN
05:19:30 INITIATED AFTER JULY 1st OF THIS YEAR.
05:19:33 IF I COULD HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE.
05:19:39 THIS NEW ELEMENT IS RATHER SLIM.
05:19:43 WE ARE REQUIRED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
05:19:47 OPPORTUNITY TO BE VERY MINDFUL AND STICK TO THE INTENT OF
05:19:49 THE LEGISLATION.
05:19:51 THERE IS OPPORTUNITY AT A LATER DATE, ON A FUTURE BASIS, TO
05:19:56 ADD ADDITIONAL THINGS AT THE DESIRE OF THE CITY, BUT
05:20:00 CURRENTLY WE HAVE ONE GOAL, ONE OBJECTIVE AND ONE POLICY.
05:20:04 THE POLICY READS: ACKNOWLEDGE PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS TO
05:20:07 ENSURE THAT CONSIDERATION IN THE LOCAL DECISION-MAKING
05:20:09 PROCESSES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND THE OBJECTIVE IS TO
05:20:14 RESPECT PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:20:16 IF I COULD HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE.
05:20:19 AND I WON'T READ -- THIS IS A SINGLE POLICY BUT THIS
05:20:23 LANGUAGE COMES VERBATIM OUT OF THE LEGISLATION.
05:20:27 OUR STAFF AGAIN HAS ANALYZED THIS AND ALSO IN YOUR LEGAL AND
05:20:30 PLANNING STAFF HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT THIS, AND WE DO NOT FEEL
05:20:34 THAT IT HAS -- WE DON'T FEEL IT HAS MAJOR IMPACT TO THE
05:20:41 OPERATION OF THE MUNICIPALITY.
05:20:43 IF I COULD HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE.
05:20:46 OUR STAFF DID REVIEW THIS TO ENSURE THAT IT WAS CONSISTENT
05:20:50 IN THE PLAN, AND PARTICULARLY WE LOOKED AT THE GOALS, 20 OF
05:20:54 THEM, THAT ARE IN YOUR FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT WHICH ARE
05:20:57 BASICALLY DESIGNED TO IMPLEMENT THE OVERALL VISION OF THE
05:20:59 COMMUNITY.
05:21:00 THESE ARE GOALS RELATED TO LIVABLE CITIES, THE CENTRAL CITY,
05:21:05 MIXED USE CORRIDORS AND THE LAKE, AND WE FEEL THAT THIS NEW
05:21:10 ELEMENT WILL NOT IMPEDE YOUR ABILITY TO REACH THOSE GOALS.
05:21:15 WE DO BELIEVE THAT THIS MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF 59 AND WE
05:21:22 ASK FOR AN OFFICIAL REVIEW BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC
05:21:25 OPPORTUNITY, AND AN OFFICIAL REVIEW, BUT WE FEEL CONFIDENT
05:21:35 THAT WE WILL MEAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
05:21:37 AGAIN, WE DID APPLY THIS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
05:21:41 AND FOUND NOTHING OF MAJOR SIGNIFICANCE.
05:21:44 NEXT SLIDE.
05:21:46 THIS IS A TIMELINE THAT WE ARE OPERATING ON FOR THE CITY OF
05:21:48 TAMPA.
05:21:49 THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THIS OWN AUGUST 24th
05:21:52 AND FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
05:21:55 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:21:57 WE ARE HERE TO HOLD A TRANSMITTAL HERE THIS EVENING
05:22:02 PROJECTING AN ADOPTION DATE TO BRING THIS BACK TO YOU AT THE
05:22:05 BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR, JANUARY 27th.
05:22:07 I WILL SAY WE ARE DOING THIS FOR ALL THE JURISDICTIONS IN
05:22:10 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
05:22:12 I AM THE 21st.
05:22:14 TEMPLE TERRACE TRANSMITTED THERE'S, THE ONES THAT I JUST
05:22:19 PRESENTED TO YOU.
05:22:20 PLANT CITY ON THE 27th, THIS PAST MONDAY.
05:22:24 AND WE EXPECT THE COUNTY TO DO LIKEWISE IN THE LATTER HALF
05:22:29 OF OCTOBER.
05:22:31 IF I CAN HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE.
05:22:34 WITH THAT, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE PROPOSED TEXT
05:22:37 AMENDMENT BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND
05:22:39 POLICIES OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND
05:22:42 THIS IS A TRANSMITTAL HEARING, AND I STAND FOR ANY
05:22:45 QUESTIONS.
05:22:46 THANK YOU.
05:22:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
05:22:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FIRST OF ALL, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
05:22:53 POLICIES ARE, AND SO FORTH, I BELIEVE I DO.
05:22:57 BY ORDINANCE, NUMBER 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS IS BY
05:23:02 POLICY.
05:23:03 I HAVE A CONCERN THERE.
05:23:04 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE -- I WAS READING THE WHOLE TEXT ON THIS
05:23:09 NUMBER ONE ITEM.
05:23:11 NUMBER 3, THIS PLAN SPECIFICALLY, 809 WEST LINEBAUGH HEAVE
05:23:18 AVENUE.
05:23:19 NUMBER 4, THE CATEGORY IN GENERAL FOR MIXED USE.
05:23:21 NUMBER 5, HOWEVER, IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
05:23:24 IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS NORTH OF ADAMO DRIVE AND EAST OF FOREST
05:23:30 LAKE.
05:23:31 IT DOESN'T SAY HOW FAR NORTH OR HOW FAR EAST.
05:23:34 IT COULD GO ALL THE WAY TO ST. PETERSBURG, I GUESS.
05:23:36 NUMBER 6.
05:23:38 NUMBER 7, WE TALKED ABOUT TEMPLE CREST PARK.
05:23:41 NUMBER 8, CEMETERY.
05:23:44 NUMBER 9 ONLY SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO THE DEL RIO POOL WHICH I
05:23:49 THINK IS CUSCADEN PARK, I'M NOT SURE.
05:23:52 AND NUMBER 10.
05:23:53 WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, I DON'T TRY TO HIDE THEM WITH HAIR, YOU
05:24:01 HAVE HOW FAR NORTH AND HOW FAR EAST, AND CAN YOU ANSWER ME
05:24:05 THAT QUESTION?
05:24:06 >> I'M AFRAID AS RELATE TO THE ITEMS THAT I JUST PRESENTED.
05:24:16 IS THAT ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM?
05:24:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, WHAT WE CAN DO AND NOT DO, LESS
05:24:25 THAN ONE ACRE, MORE THAN ONE ACRE?
05:24:27 THAT'S THE SAME THING WE ARE TALKING ABOUT?
05:24:29 >> THAT'S MR. HEY OR MS. MALONE MIGHT BE ABLE TO RESPOND.
05:24:34 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:24:40 THIS WAS ORIGINALLY ITEM 15.
05:24:42 AND WE HAVE MOVED 15 UP TO NUMBER 1, WHICH IS TA/CPA 21-21.
05:24:52 I THINK YOU ARE REFERENCING A DIFFERENT FILE NUMBER.
05:24:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, 15 AS I LOOK AT IT, A GENERIC ONE,
05:25:05 WHAT YOU CAN DO AND YOU SHOULD DO BY LAW.
05:25:08 AM I CORRECT?
05:25:08 >>DAVID HEY: WELL, IT'S SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS TO HOUSE
05:25:13 BILL 59.
05:25:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RIGHT.
05:25:16 >>DAVID HEY: AND HAS JURISDICTION TO IMPLEMENT WITHIN THEIR
05:25:21 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:25:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RIGHT.
05:25:23 AND THEN I READ WAS NOT SPECIFIC TO THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS
05:25:26 SPECIFIC.
05:25:31 HOW IS NUMBER 1 ON THE AGENDA?
05:25:34 AND THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 2 NOW, IS THAT IT?
05:25:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
05:25:38 THEY ASKED FOR ITEM NUMBER 15 TO BECOME NUMBER ONE.
05:25:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEN THIS ONE IS NOT ONE.
05:25:43 IT'S 1-A.
05:25:48 IT DOESN'T HAVE A NUMBER 1.
05:25:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 15 IS NOW NUMBER 1, AND --
05:26:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OH, I SEE.
05:26:01 I APOLOGIZE FOR WASTING YOUR TIME.
05:26:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE JUST TAKING 15 AND 13.
05:26:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:26:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE YOU ARE GOING.
05:26:16 ALL RIGHT.
05:26:16 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ITEM NUMBER 15, MOVED TO NUMBER 1?
05:26:22 >>THE CLERK: IN A REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
05:26:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
05:26:44 MR. MANISCALCO MOVED.
05:26:46 CITRO SECONDED IT.
05:26:49 ROLL CALL.
05:26:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:26:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:26:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:26:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:26:56 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:26:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:27:00 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH DINGFELDER
05:27:02 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
05:27:03 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:27:06 I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING BEFORE YOU BEGIN IN JANUARY 2022.
05:27:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 13.
05:27:26 MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN?
05:27:28 >> WE CAN SEE IT.
05:28:02 GO AHEAD.
05:28:02 >> THANK YOU.
05:28:12 [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
05:28:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONE MINUTE.
05:28:15 ONE MINUTE, SIR.
05:28:17 DO YOU HAVE A LITTLE VOLUME SO WE CAN HEAR HIM?
05:28:22 TRY IT AGAIN, SIR.
05:28:23 >> DIEGO GUERRA, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:28:34 THIS IS AN ANNUAL UPDATE REQUIRED BY FLORIDA STATUTES.
05:28:45 CHAPTER 163 REQUIRES THAT THE SCHEDULED PROJECT ADOPT THE
05:28:52 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
05:28:58 IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN -- [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
05:29:06 AND THESE ITEMS MAKE UP THE SCHEDULED PROJECT.
05:29:14 IT IS PERMITTED BY THE CHAPTER WHICH IS NOT THE NORMAL PLAN
05:29:19 AMENDMENT PROCESS.
05:29:20 ADDITIONALLY, THE PLANS ARE ADOPTED BY REFERENCE THROUGH THE
05:29:25 POLICIES.
05:29:38 TRANSPORTATION, STORMWATER, AND -- [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
05:29:52 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS A SCHEDULE WITH RESPECT TO THE
05:29:56 GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. POLICY
05:29:58 1.2.268.
05:30:14 THE SCHEDULED FUNDING FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE --
05:30:19 [~DISTORTION~]
05:30:26 AT A TIME PROPOSED AND 5.0 AND 5.6, POLICIES OF THE 2040
05:30:37 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND RECOMMEND THAT CITY COUNCIL ADOPT
05:30:43 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:30:45 THIS IS THE PRESENTATION.
05:30:47 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
05:30:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER 13?
05:30:53 ANY QUESTIONS?
05:30:56 ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC, ON THE SECOND FLOOR, OR REGISTERED?
05:31:02 >> NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
05:31:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
05:31:08 REGARDING PROJECTS TOTALING $1.78 MILLION, $927,715, AM I
05:31:19 CORRECT ON WHAT IT IS?
05:31:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PLANNING COMMISSION?
05:31:24 >> DIEGO GUERRA: THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND THE
05:31:29 CITY'S ANNUAL BUDGET.
05:31:46 [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] -- THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:31:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT FOR ME.
05:32:06 I'M FINE.
05:32:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND NOBODY
05:32:11 REGISTERED?
05:32:12 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
05:32:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO MOVED TO CLOSE.
05:32:18 AND SECOND.
05:32:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:32:21 OPPOSED?
05:32:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
05:32:26 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
05:32:29 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND CAPITAL
05:32:32 IMPROVEMENT SECTION BY REPLACING THE CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT
05:32:35 PROGRAM AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION SCHEDULE OF
05:32:38 PROJECTS WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND CAPITAL
05:32:42 IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULED OF PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022
05:32:45 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2026 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
05:32:49 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
05:32:52 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:32:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO SECOND.
05:32:58 ROLL CALL.
05:32:58 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:33:01 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:33:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:33:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:33:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:33:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:33:07 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH DINGFELDER
05:33:09 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
05:33:11 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 21st
05:33:14 AT 9:30 A.M.
05:33:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
05:33:18 WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:33:24 MS. MALONE.
05:33:24 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:33:27 MAY I HAVE PERMISSION TO SHARE MY SCREEN?
05:33:37 OKAY.
05:33:37 THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:33:39 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 21-01, AN ADOPTION HEARING IN THE
05:33:46 CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
05:33:49 AS A REFRESHER, THIS WAS PRIVATELY INITIATED.
05:33:52 IT WAS TRANSMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY
05:33:54 BY THIS COUNCIL ON IN JUNE 2021 AND HAD NO COMMENT ON THE
05:34:00 PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
05:34:02 YOU MIGHT RECALL BACK IN JUNE THE LANGUAGE WAS APPENDED AT
05:34:08 THE DIRECTION OF CITY COUNCIL, SO IT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT
05:34:10 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF GENERALLY ACHIEVES THE SAME
05:34:14 PURPOSE WITH SOME MORE RESTRICTIONS SO THE PROPOSED POLICY
05:34:17 WILL EXPAND ON THE WEIGHT AND OBJECTIVES, FUTURE LAND USE
05:34:24 DESIGNATIONS WHICH CAN BE ACHIEVED THROUGH A PLANNED
05:34:27 DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVE ZONING, AND WITHIN A HALF MILE OF AN
05:34:32 URBAN VILLAGE.
05:34:34 ON THE NEXT SCREEN I WILL SHOW THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS
05:34:37 TRANSMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
05:34:40 FOR THE LAND USE POLICY 5.1.6 ALREADY EXISTS IN THE PLAN AND
05:34:45 THE PROPOSAL IS JUST TO EXPAND IT TO ALLOW THE PROVISION TO
05:34:50 TAKE PLACE OUTSIDE OF THE PURCHASE BAN VILLAGE WITHIN A HALF
05:34:53 MILE SO IT CANNOT -- IN TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
05:35:01 THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF DID FIND THE LANGUAGE
05:35:04 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OBJECTIVES AND
05:35:09 POLICIES AND RECOMMENDING TO YOU TODAY FOR ADOPTION.
05:35:11 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
05:35:13 I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
05:35:15 AND THE APPLICANT IS ON THE LINE AS WELL.
05:35:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
05:35:18 MR. MIRANDA.
05:35:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:35:20 I HATE TO BE AN OLD HORSE LIKE MYSELF, BUT THIS IS THE
05:35:24 SECOND NUMBER ONE THAT I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED IN THE
05:35:27 BEGINNING.
05:35:27 BUT LET ME SAY THIS.
05:35:28 THIS IS BY POLICY, AND THESE ARE SET BY ORDINANCE, I
05:35:32 BELIEVE, BUT JUST READING THIS THING, AND STOP ME AND
05:35:37 CORRECT ME IF I AM IN THE WRONG AVENUE HERE, WHEN I WENT
05:35:40 THROUGH THE LISTINGS THAT I SAW ON ANOTHER PAGE ONE AND
05:35:43 FURTHER DOWN, IT WAS SPECIFICALLY ON THE LINE ITEMS,
05:35:48 MOBILITY, STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT, BLAH-BLAH-BLAH, 809 WEST
05:35:53 LINEBAUGH AVENUE.
05:35:54 MOBILITY STAFF, CITY OF TAMPA, DOES NOT OBJECT TO WHAT,
05:36:00 AMENDMENT IN COLLEGE PARK, TEMPLE CREST PARK, AMENDMENT OF
05:36:04 WOODLAWN CEMETERY, DEL RIO POOL, CIRCLE PARK.
05:36:09 HOWEVER, WHEN I COME TO WHAT I CALL -- IT TALKS ABOUT FUTURE
05:36:14 LAND USE ELEMENT AND IT SAYS IN BROAD FORM GENERALLY NORTH
05:36:18 OF ADAMO DRIVE.
05:36:20 WELL, ANYTHING NORTH OF ADAMO DRIVE CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO
05:36:23 THE END OF DISTRICT 6 WHICH IS 109, IF I RECALL.
05:36:27 OUT THERE THE NORTHERNMOST PART ON THE OTHER SIDE OF FOWLER
05:36:32 AVENUE.
05:36:33 THEN YOU GO EAST TO NUCCIO PARKWAY AND HERE IS WHERE IT
05:36:36 BECOMES TRICKY BECAUSE EAST OF NORTH NUCCIO PARKWAY,
05:36:43 14th STREET, NUCCIO PARKWAY ALL THE WAY HEADING SOUTH,
05:36:48 AND MEANDERING MANNER TO THE CASS AND NEBRASKA.
05:36:54 SO MY QUESTION IS TO MYSELF, THAT'S WHY I BRING IT UP TO
05:36:57 EVERYBODY ELSE SO MYSELF CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON,
05:37:00 IT'S VERY SIMPLE.
05:37:01 HOW FAR NORTH ARE WE GOING WITH THIS?
05:37:03 AND HOW FAR EAST?
05:37:07 BECAUSE IT CAN BE A SMALL PARCEL OF LAND OR A BIG ONE.
05:37:09 IT'S GOT TO BE MORE THAN I BELIEVE ONE ACRE, AT LEAST ONE
05:37:12 ACRE, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY HOW BIG.
05:37:15 AND THIS IS REALLY --
05:37:23 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES.
05:37:24 I AM GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN AGAIN SO I CAN EXPLAIN IT A
05:37:28 LITTLE BETTER.
05:37:29 THIS IS THE OUTLINE, BUT THIS IS THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
05:37:34 DISTRICT.
05:37:34 SO IT ENCOMPASSES A LOT OF THE CITY, AND THEN THE URBAN
05:37:39 VILLAGES ARE WHAT'S IN THESE COLORS.
05:37:42 SO RIGHT NOW, CAN ONLY UTILIZE WHAT'S IN THE URBAN VILLAGES,
05:37:50 AND BE UTILIZED WITHIN A HALF MILE RADIUS OF THE URBAN
05:37:54 VILLAGE.
05:37:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES AT APOCALYPTIC TO ALL OF THE ONES
05:38:01 THAT I MENTIONED?
05:38:02 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THE ONCE YOU MENTIONED?
05:38:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MENTIONED MOBILITY, VERY SPECIFIC,
05:38:11 CIRCLE PARK, VERY SPECIFIC, DEL RIO POOL, VERY SPECIFIC,
05:38:16 TEMPLE CREST PARK,
05:38:19 AND VERY SPECIFIC, 809 WEST LINEBAUGH.
05:38:25 IT'S NOT VERY SPECIFIC, IN BROAD FORM.
05:38:28 SO IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR MAP, IT SAYS NORTH OF ADAMO DRIVE.
05:38:33 YOU CAN JUST ABOUT TELL WHERE IT'S AT.
05:38:37 AND THEN EAST OF NUCCIO PARKWAY.
05:38:43 IT COULD GO ALL THE WAY --
05:38:45 >>JENNIFER MALONE: SORRY, DAVID.
05:38:49 >>DAVID HEY: THIS IS DAVID HEY.
05:38:54 I THINK ARE YOU REFERENCING THE CITY'S COMMENTS IN REGARDS
05:38:59 TO THE OTHER AMENDMENTS?
05:39:02 BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE CITY INCLUDES THEIR COMMENTS IN ONE
05:39:09 MAIL OF ALL THE AMENDMENTS.
05:39:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
05:39:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHERE ARE YOU TRYING TO GO WITH THIS?
05:39:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT TRYING TO GO ANYWHERE.
05:39:23 I AM TRYING TO POINT OUT --
05:39:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE WHERE YOU ARE GOING, AND I LOOK AT
05:39:31 THE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
05:39:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU MIGHT BE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, DICK
05:39:43 TRACY.
05:39:46 COLOMBO TAUGHT ME A LOT OF THINGS.
05:39:48 AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
05:39:51 IT'S HARD FOR ME, IF ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ASK A
05:39:56 QUESTION, WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS ITEM?
05:39:58 AND I SAY, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST EAST OF NUCCIO PARKWAY
05:40:03 AND EAST OF ADAMO DRIVE.
05:40:04 TELL ME WHERE.
05:40:05 I CAN'T TELL THEM WHERE.
05:40:07 THAT'S ALL.
05:40:07 >>JENNIFER MALONE: AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE CAN PROBABLY
05:40:18 HELP ANSWER THE QUESTION HIS PRESENTATION.
05:40:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD.
05:40:24 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MS. MALONE BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE
05:40:27 APPLICANT?
05:40:29 MR. HUDSON.
05:40:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M HERE A FEW DAYS ONLY.
05:40:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MS. MALONE?
05:40:43 LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
05:40:44 >>TYLER HUDSON: 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
05:40:49 I'M THE APPLICANT FOR THIS TEXT AMENDMENT.
05:40:52 IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN REAL QUICK.
05:41:08 CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
05:41:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OH, THERE IT IS.
05:41:11 >>TYLER HUDSON: SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON HOW WE GOT
05:41:20 HERE, THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED BACK IN JANUARY OF THIS
05:41:22 YEAR, IN APRIL, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THE
05:41:26 REQUEST CONSISTENT, IN MAY THE PLANNING COMMISSION
05:41:30 UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
05:41:33 WE WERE HERE IN LATE JUNE FOR THE TRANSMITTAL HEARINGS AND
05:41:36 ACTUALLY HAD A PRETTY FULL CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THIS
05:41:40 DOES, WHAT THIS TEXT AMENDMENT DOES, AND WHAT IT DOES VERY
05:41:43 SPECIFICALLY.
05:41:45 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAD SOME
05:41:48 CONCERNS, THE SPECIFIC GOAL WAS THAT WE WERE USING A HAMMER
05:41:52 WHEN ALL WE NEEDED WAS A FLY SWATTER.
05:41:55 SO AT THAT SAME HEARING, WAS KIND ENOUGH TO WORK ON A MORE
05:42:01 NARROWLY TEXT AMENDMENT WHICH THIS COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY
05:42:03 APPROVED THE TRANSMITTAL UP TO TALLAHASSEE.
05:42:06 AND SINCE JUNE, THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC
05:42:10 OPPORTUNITY HAD NO OBJECTIONS.
05:42:15 SO PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE ARE TRYING TO FIX WITH THIS
05:42:18 TEXT AMENDMENT -- OOPS, SORRY.
05:42:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SEE WHAT YOU HAVE HERE BUT I CAN'T DIE
05:42:26 JUST IT, IT'S SO SMALL.
05:42:28 AND WHAT YOU JUST SAID -- AND I BELIEVE WHAT YOU SAID IS
05:42:32 CORRECT, MR. HUDSON.
05:42:34 HOWEVER, WHAT HAPPENS IN POLITICS YOU VOTE ON SOMETHING
05:42:37 WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT WE VOTED ON.
05:42:40 THIS WOULD BE LAND EAST OF NUCCIO PARKWAY AND WEST -- NORTH,
05:42:47 NO MORE NORTH, ALL THE WAY OUT?
05:42:51 OR IT COULD BE ALL THE WAY OUT TO I THINK IT'S PRECINCT 109,
05:42:56 UP THERE NEAR THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ON
05:42:59 THAT SIDE OF DISTRICT 6, MR. MANISCALCO'S.
05:43:03 AND ALL I AM ASKING FOR IS, WHERE IS THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY
05:43:07 AT?
05:43:10 YOU OUGHT TO KNOW.
05:43:11 >>TYLER HUDSON: THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT, SO UNLIKE MOST OF
05:43:15 THE OTHER MAP AMENDMENTS THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, AND YOU
05:43:19 MENTIONED SOME CITIZENS AND CITY DEDICATED PARKS, THIS
05:43:26 AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU IS JUST TO ADD A PARAGRAPH OF WORDS
05:43:31 INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:43:33 IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE STATUS OF ANY INDIVIDUAL PIECE OF LAND
05:43:37 AT ALL.
05:43:38 IT DOES NOT DO THAT.
05:43:42 IT IS A TEXT AMENDMENT.
05:43:43 WHAT I AM SHOWING YOU ON SCREEN OR WHAT GENERAL I HAVE
05:43:45 SHOWED EARLIER IS THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
05:43:49 AND THE PARAGRAPH, THE WORDS THAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO ADD
05:43:52 TONIGHT INTO THE COMP PLAN, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THOSE
05:43:56 WORDS COULD ONLY APPLY WITHIN THE OVERALL BOUNDARY YOU ARE
05:44:00 SEEING.
05:44:01 THAT'S THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, WHICH AS THIS
05:44:04 COUNCIL I THINK HAS INDICATED AND MIGHT INDICATE ON A LATER
05:44:07 ITEM TONIGHT, IS AN AREA OF THE CITY WHERE WE SEEM TO SEE
05:44:14 MORE GROWTH BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ENCOMPASS WHAT WE THINK OF AS
05:44:17 THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE CITY.
05:44:19 NOW THESE CIRCLES AND SPLOTCHES, SO TO SPEAK, THAT ARE ON
05:44:23 SCREEN, THOSE ARE URBAN VILLAGES.
05:44:25 RIGHT NOW IF YOU ARE IN AN URBAN VILLAGE, AND YOU ARE A
05:44:28 PROJECT THAT'S A PD REZONING, THAT COMES TO THIS GROUP FOR
05:44:33 REZONING APPROVAL, AND LET'S SAY YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT
05:44:36 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES WITHIN YOUR DEVELOPMENT, YOU ARE
05:44:38 ALLOWED TO ADD THEM UP AND BLEND THEM TOGETHER WITHIN YOUR
05:44:42 SITE.
05:44:42 IT PREVENTS THINGS FROM BEING LOPSIDED, FROM ONE HALF OF
05:44:46 YOUR DEVELOPMENT BEING SIX STORIES TALL, THE OTHER BEING TWO
05:44:50 STORIES TALL.
05:44:50 YOU ARE ABLE TO BLEND THEM TOGETHER.
05:44:52 WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR TONIGHT, AND WHAT THIS PARAGRAPH OF
05:44:56 TEXT THAT WE ARE REQUESTING GO INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
05:45:00 DOES, IS IT ALLOWS YOU TO DO THAT SAME BLENDING, BUT INSTEAD
05:45:05 OF JUST INSIDE OF THESE BOXES THAT ARE ON THE SCREEN, YOU
05:45:09 ARE ABLE TO DO IT WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE BOUNDARY OF
05:45:12 THOSE BOXES IF YOUR PROJECT IS AT LEAST AN ACRE, AND YOU ARE
05:45:18 GOING THROUGH A PD REZONING OR A PDA REZONING, SOMETHING
05:45:23 THAT'S GOING TO COME TO YOU, THIS COUNCIL.
05:45:30 EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF LAND THAT THIS MAY AFFECT IN THE
05:45:36 FUTURE, BUT GENERALLY IT IS THE AREAS THAT ARE WITHIN ONE
05:45:39 HALF MILE OF THESE FOUR SHADES ON SCREEN.
05:45:44 THOSE ARE THE URBAN VILLAGES.
05:45:46 AND IF I COULD GET BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF MY PRESENTATION,
05:45:50 JUST TO UNDERSCORE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY WE ARE REQUESTING
05:45:53 THIS.
05:45:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE ALLUDING
05:45:58 TO, SIR, AND I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
05:46:00 BUT THIS IS JUST NOT SPECIFIC ENOUGH FOR ME BECAUSE AT LEAST
05:46:05 ONE ACRE, THAT'S FINE, ONE AND A HALF RADIUS OF THE URBAN
05:46:10 VILLAGE BOUNDARY, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
05:46:12 AND NOTHING SHALL NOT APPLY TO ANY LAND OUTSIDE OF THE
05:46:15 CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING.
05:46:17 I UNDERSTAND THAT.
05:46:19 HOWEVER, IT'S STILL A VERY LARGE PORTION OF LAND THAT IT
05:46:24 ENCOMPASSES SO YOU MAY HAVE ONE HERE AND ONE HERE OR YOU MAY
05:46:28 HAVE THEM TOGETHER MAKING SOMETHING THAT EQUALS 8 OR 10
05:46:31 ACRES.
05:46:32 THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING.
05:46:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:46:33 AND I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS ONE.
05:46:35 THANK YOU.
05:46:35 >>TYLER HUDSON: IF I COULD BRIEFLY --
05:46:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. HUDSON.
05:46:47 YOU CAN CONTINUE, SIR.
05:46:48 GO AHEAD.
05:46:48 >>TYLER HUDSON: SO THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU HAVE THESE
05:46:55 DIFFERENT INTENSITIES, DIFFERENT DENSITIES WITHIN A PD, AND
05:46:59 THE TEXT AMENDMENT, AND SOME OF COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S
05:47:07 SUGGESTION, IS REALLY ABOUT AS NARROW AS IT CAN GET, AS
05:47:12 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ALLUDED TO.
05:47:15 WE HAVE A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE.
05:47:17 AGAIN, THIS CAN ONLY BE UTILIZED IF IT'S GOING TO GO TO A
05:47:21 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OR PDA.
05:47:22 SO THIS DELEGATION OF -- DOESN'T RELEASE OR DELEGATION OF
05:47:29 COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY.
05:47:30 ANYTIME ANY PIECE OF LAND, ANY DEVELOPER WANTS TO USE THIS,
05:47:33 THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL.
05:47:35 AND IF THERE IS A REASON WHY THIS COUNCIL IS UNCOMFORTABLE
05:47:38 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THEY ARE PROPOSING, UTILIZING IT, THEN
05:47:42 COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE DISCRETION TO DENY THAT.
05:47:47 THE ORIGINAL SCONE OF THE APPLICATION WAS ANYWHERE IN THE
05:47:51 CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
05:47:52 THAT HAS NOW BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED, SOLELY TO THE
05:47:57 PARCELS THAT ARE WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THAT URBAN VILLAGE
05:48:00 BOUNDARY, AN ANGER AT LEAST IN SIZE, AND WHICH IS GOING TO
05:48:06 GO THROUGH A PD OR PDA REZONING.
05:48:09 THIS PROJECT, YOU MENTIONED AT THE LAST HEARING, THIS ISSUE
05:48:11 CAME UP IN CONNECTION WITH THE PLANNING FOR THE GAS WORX
05:48:15 PROJECT.
05:48:15 THERE ARE SEVERAL PARCELS THAT ARE NOT IN THE URBAN VILLAGE
05:48:18 AT ALL.
05:48:19 AND IN DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT TURNS
05:48:22 OUT THAT IT IS DIFFICULT TO CHANGE THE BOUNDARIES OF THOSE
05:48:25 URBAN VILLAGES, BECAUSE THEY ARE OFTEN TIED TO ANOTHER
05:48:29 PLANNING PROCESS, SUCH AS A CRA BOUNDARY, OR HISTORIC
05:48:33 DISTRICT MAP.
05:48:34 AND GIVEN THAT PROJECT, THE JCC, YBOR CITY HISTORIC
05:48:39 DISTRICT, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE THE DENSITY FOR OUR
05:48:43 ENTIRE SITE IN A WAY THAT'S RESPECTFUL OF THE HISTORIC
05:48:47 DISTRICT.
05:48:47 RIGHT NOW, WE COULD BE FORCED TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF
05:48:51 DENSITY RIGHT NEXT TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BOUNDARY.
05:48:54 THIS ALLOWS US TO AVOID THAT AND BE MORE FLEXIBLE.
05:48:58 AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS, THIS EVENING.
05:49:01 AND WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT
05:49:05 OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS MIGHT HAVE.
05:49:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
05:49:12 MR. MANISCALCO.
05:49:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KEEP THINKING ABOUT AL CAPONE'S
05:49:17 CHARACTER IN THE UNTOUCHABLES.
05:49:20 BASEBALL.
05:49:22 THAT'S A WHOLE STORY.
05:49:23 BASEBALL.
05:49:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
05:49:40 ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR, MR. HUDSON?
05:49:45 >>TYLER HUDSON: YES, SIR.
05:49:46 I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT ON REBUTTAL IF POSSIBLE.
05:49:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
05:49:53 ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
05:49:55 >> NO ONE IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
05:49:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS
05:50:03 TO SAY ANYTHING BEFORE WE CLOSE ON THIS MATTER.
05:50:07 GIVE HIM A FEW SECONDS.
05:50:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PRIVATELY INITIATED PLAN AMENDMENT?
05:50:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PRIVATELY INITIATED.
05:50:23 MR. MIRANDA'S MAIN CONTENTION IS THE BOUNDARY LIMITS.
05:50:31 >>DAVID HEY: COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF I MAY ADDRESS SOMETHING
05:50:38 THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.
05:50:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. HEY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
05:50:41 >>DAVID HEY: I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BROUGHT UP PAGE
05:50:46 11 OF THE PACKET.
05:50:48 PAGE 11 IS AN E-MAIL FROM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT IN REGARD
05:50:56 TO THE FEBRUARY CYCLE OF AMENDMENTS, WHICH THIS AMENDMENT IS
05:51:01 ONE OF MANY AMENDMENTS, OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT OF THE
05:51:07 CITY RESPONDS TO OUR REQUEST FOR INFORMATION IS THEY PROVIDE
05:51:11 ONE MAIL WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS ON IT,
05:51:15 AND EACH COMMENT IS OUTLINED.
05:51:17 SO THE ONLY REASON WHY THIS E-MAIL IS INCLUDED IN YOUR
05:51:22 PACKET IS IT REFERENCES AT THE TOP THIS ONE PARTICULAR
05:51:28 AMENDMENT, 21-01.
05:51:31 ALL THE OTHER ONES THAT ARE REFERENCED ON PAGE 11 ARE OTHER
05:51:35 AMENDMENTS.
05:51:37 AND I BELIEVE 21-05 WAS BROUGHT UP.
05:51:40 THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN JULY THAT AMENDMENT.
05:51:43 SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT ALL THOSE COMMENTS ON
05:51:48 THAT PAGE BELOW 21-01 DOES NOT APPLY TO THIS AMENDMENT.
05:51:54 I HOPE THAT CLARIFIES.
05:52:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GREAT WAY OF PRESENTING IT.
05:52:02 EINSTEIN COULDN'T HAVE FIGURED IT OUT.
05:52:04 >>DAVID HEY: THAT'S HOW WE GET THE E-MAIL.
05:52:06 >> I AM NOT DISPUTING THAT, SIR.
05:52:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER IS LOOKING.
05:52:17 I WILL GIVE HIM A FEW MORE SECONDS BEFORE WE MOVE ON THIS
05:52:20 ITEM.
05:52:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WHO IS PROPOSING THIS?
05:52:29 I APOLOGIZE FOR MY TARDINESS.
05:52:31 >>TYLER HUDSON: I AM, COUNCILMAN.
05:52:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU ARE?
05:52:41 >> YES.
05:52:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OWN WHOSE OF BEHALF --
05:52:52 >> THE GAS WORX, DARRYL SHAW.
05:52:57 THAT'S WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS AIMED AT.
05:53:00 INSTEAD OF JUST APPLYING TO THAT PROJECT, WE ARE USING A
05:53:03 TEXT AMENDMENT TO BLEND THE SCOPE BECAUSE WHILE THE GAS WORX
05:53:09 PROJECT IS THE FIRST ONE THAT MAY HAVE REPEALED THIS
05:53:16 SHORTCOMING IN THE COMP PLAN, THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, WE
05:53:19 BELIEVE IT'S GOOD PLANNING AND IT'S GOING TO AFFECT OTHER
05:53:21 PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE.
05:53:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DAVID AND COUNCIL, I APOLOGIZE.
05:53:28 DAVID, CAN YOU EXPLAIN IN ONE MINUTE OR LESS THE PROS AND
05:53:34 CONS OF THIS, AND HOW IT IMPACTS PROJECTS, AND HOW IT MIGHT
05:53:40 IMPACT THE COMMUNITY?
05:53:41 >>DAVID HEY: I THINK I AM GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO
05:53:45 JENNIFER BECAUSE JENNIFER WAS THE PLANNER REGARDING THIS,
05:53:49 AND SHE COULD PROBABLY GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.
05:53:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GIVE ME THE CONCISE VERSION.
05:53:54 >>JENNIFER MALONE: SURE.
05:53:57 RIGHT NOW THERE'S A LAND USE LINE, A PARCEL SPLIT, WE ARE
05:54:02 VERY SPECIFIC, AND IT'S NOT AN URBAN VILLAGE.
05:54:04 WE HAVE TO BE VERY SPECIFIC WITH THAT LINE.
05:54:10 WITH THIS AMENDMENT, AND THIS IS ALREADY ALLOWED IN THE
05:54:13 URBAN VILLAGES ONLY, AN APPLICANT CAN BLEND, SPREAD IT
05:54:19 ACROSS THE SITE.
05:54:20 IF THERE ARE TWO FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
05:54:24 SO THIS AMENDMENT, REQUESTING TO EXPAND THAT TO PERSONS
05:54:28 OUTSIDE OF URBAN VILLAGES, IN A HALF MILE RADIUS, AND ONLY
05:54:33 WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING DISTRICT, AND ALL OF THE
05:54:35 VILLAGES IN THE PLANNING DISTRICT ALREADY, BUT THE HALF MILE
05:54:38 RADIUS JUST TO MAKE SURE, THAT THE RADIUS GOES OUT TO THE
05:54:44 CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, THAT THEY CAN'T USE THE
05:54:49 PROVISION OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
05:54:53 IT'S ON THE SCREEN AGAIN IF YOU WOULD LIKE --
05:54:57 >>DAVID HEY: ONE FOLLOW-UP.
05:54:58 THIS WAS PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY TO COUNCIL, AND I BELIEVE THIS
05:55:01 IS NEGOTIATED LANGUAGE THAT OCCURRED THAT EVENING, THAT THEN
05:55:08 VOTED TO TRANSMIT UP, RIGHT?
05:55:11 >>JENNIFER MALONE: ON JUNE 24th, SUBMITTED BY THE
05:55:15 APPLICANT, AND COUNCIL FELT THAT IT WAS TOO BROAD, SO THE
05:55:19 APPLICANT, STAFF, TOOK THE BREAK AND WENT OFF TO THE SIDE
05:55:23 VIRTUALLY AND CAME UP WITH SOME LANGUAGE THAT COUNCIL FELT
05:55:27 BETTER SUITED -- MORE COMFORTABLE WITH TRANSMITTING THE
05:55:32 REVISED LANGUAGE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
05:55:35 IN JUNE.
05:55:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNEW IT LOOKED FAMILIAR.
05:55:40 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:55:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, I DID SEE YOUR HAND, SIR?
05:55:44 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. VIERA?
05:55:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DID I SEE YOUR HAND, SIR?
05:55:52 MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ.
05:55:53 >>LUIS VIERA: ACTUALLY, I WAS MUTING AND UNMUTING MYSELF ON
05:56:01 THE COMPUTER, BUT I WILL SAY SOMETHING.
05:56:03 YOU KNOW WHAT, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS AND THIS COULD BE
05:56:06 POTENTIALLY EXPANSIVE BUT WE SENT IT BACK NARROWLY TAILORED
05:56:10 A LITTLE BIT.
05:56:11 THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN YOU VOTE FOR IT.
05:56:14 BUT I THINK THAT TAKES CARE OF AT LEAST ON MY END SOME OF
05:56:18 THOSE INITIAL CONCERNS, THAT -- I WILL CHIME IN LATER, BUT
05:56:25 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
05:56:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCILMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
05:56:30 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
05:56:33 I DID WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON MR. MIRANDA'S COMMENTS.
05:56:35 THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT, AND -- AND SO IT DOES NOT APPLY AS
05:56:42 PROPOSED TO A SPECIFIC PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT IT WOULD APPLY
05:56:46 TO ALL PROPERTIES THAT FALL WITHIN THE DESCRIPTION OF THE
05:56:51 AMENDMENT.
05:56:52 SO WITHIN THE CENTRAL PLANNING DISTRICT AND WITHIN A MILE
05:56:55 RADIUS OF THOSE URBAN VILLAGES, THE MAP THAT I BELIEVE IS
05:56:58 PART OF MS. MALONE'S PRESENTATION, THE AREA IN WHICH THIS
05:57:02 TEXT AMENDMENT COULD BE APPLIED TO SPECIFIC PIECE OF
05:57:06 PROPERTY, IF THAT CLARIFIES.
05:57:08 SO YOUR CONSIDERATION IS WHETHER AS A POLICY, YOU WOULD LIKE
05:57:14 TO CHANGE THE CURRENT POLICY IN THE COMP PLAN TO ALLOW THE
05:57:18 PROPOSAL THAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, WHETHER YOU BELIEVE
05:57:20 THAT THAT'S A GOOD POLICY.
05:57:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MS. VELEZ, I AM NOT AGAINST ANYTHING
05:57:35 OTHER THAN IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY -- AND I UNDERSTAND,
05:57:40 WHAT THEY SAID, REMEMBER IN JUNE YOU VOTED FOR IT.
05:57:44 WHAT HAPPENS POLITICALLY IS WE DEAL WITH SO MANY THINGS THAT
05:57:46 SO MANY TIMES AND SO QUICKLY THAT YOU BLAME -- NOT YOU,
05:57:50 PLEASE DON'T TAKE THAT PERSONAL -- THEN IT'S US THAT SAID,
05:57:56 NO, WE VOTED FOR IT.
05:57:58 YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT?
05:57:59 WELL, YOU VOTED FOR IT.
05:58:01 THEN THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS.
05:58:02 WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING VAGUE, NORTH OF SOMETHING AND EAST
05:58:05 OF SOMETHING ELSE, WELL, THAT COULD MEAN LAND O' LAKES, THAT
05:58:10 COULD BE PLANT CITY, I MEAN ST. PETERSBURG.
05:58:13 SO I JUST DON'T KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, I AM NOT
05:58:19 AFRAID OF ANYONE TO DO IT, THIS AND THIS AND THIS, THE
05:58:22 SPECIFIC AREA.
05:58:24 I DON'T LIKE TO BE PLAY CARDS.
05:58:26 UNLESS I KNOW HOW MANY CARDS ARE LEFT IN THE DECK.
05:58:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE ON THIS ITEM?
05:58:39 WE HAVE NOBODY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
05:58:41 AND NOBODY DOWNSTAIRS.
05:58:44 >>THE CLERK: THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
05:58:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THERE'S NOBODY
05:58:48 DOWNSTAIRS.
05:58:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE?
05:58:51 MR. MANISCALCO.
05:58:55 >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
05:58:57 I THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THIS.
05:59:00 AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE.
05:59:03 THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.
05:59:04 IT'S AN IDEA FOR A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT IN TAMPA, THE GAS
05:59:08 WORX PROJECT.
05:59:11 WHICH ALL OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
05:59:13 SO AT THE RISK OF THIS GETTING DENIED TONIGHT, DUE TO SOME
05:59:17 CONFUSION, THAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT I THINK DETRIMENTAL
05:59:22 TO THE SUCCESS OF AN IMPORTANT PROJECT IN THE URBAN CORE OF
05:59:25 THE CITY, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE TO THE
05:59:30 EARLIEST POSSIBLE DATE SO THAT I CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY,
05:59:35 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, TO SIT WITH YOU, AND TALK ABOUT THIS,
05:59:37 AND ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS A LITTLE BIT OF SKEPTICISM ABOUT
05:59:42 THAT.
05:59:43 I UNDERSTAND THAT.
05:59:45 BUT THIS IS THE MOST SPECIFIC WAY TO DESCRIBE WHAT WE ARE
05:59:48 TRYING TO DO WITHOUT HAVING IT APPLY TO A SINGLE PROJECT
05:59:53 WHICH I DON'T THINK IS GOOD PLANNING OR FAIR.
05:59:55 SO I WOULD ASK COUNCIL'S DISCRETION FOR A CONTINUANCE THIS
05:59:59 EVENING.
06:00:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY?
06:00:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT?
06:00:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOR THE CONTINUANCE?
06:00:11 >> SECOND.
06:00:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW WE NEED THE DATE.
06:00:14 IS THERE A DATE THAT -- MS. MALONE, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO
06:00:21 ASSIST?
06:00:22 >>JENNIFER MALONE: SURE.
06:00:24 I AM NOT SURE -- I DON'T HAVE -- WELL, I DON'T HAVE THE
06:00:28 CITY'S IN FRONT OF US BUT I KNOW WE HAVE PLAN AMENDMENTS
06:00:32 GOING ON THE EVENING OF JANUARY 27th.
06:00:38 I CAN'T SPEAK TO NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER CASELOAD.
06:00:41 BUT I KNOW WE HAVE SOME SPOTS.
06:00:44 AND GOING ON FEBRUARY 24th AS WELL.
06:00:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ONLY ONE NIGHT
06:00:51 MEETING IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY.
06:00:58 AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IF THOSE ARE FULL, AND I DON'T KNOW
06:01:01 IF CITY STAFF KNOWS THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT HAVE BEEN SET
06:01:06 FOR THAT NIGHT.
06:01:07 IT DEPENDS HOW LONG THIS ITEM TAKES, COUNCIL.
06:01:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOES JANUARY WORK?
06:01:19 >> THIS WILL BE VERY QUICK, TO TALK TO EACH OF YOU ABOUT
06:01:24 THIS, AND I DON'T WANT TO -- I THINK JANUARY WORKS FOR ME.
06:01:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JANUARY 27th OF 2022 AT 6:00 P.M.
06:01:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
06:01:34 MR. MANISCALCO MOVED.
06:01:35 MR. CITRO SECONDED IT.
06:01:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:01:38 OPPOSED?
06:01:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A REMINDER.
06:01:44 MR. HUDSON DID SUGGEST THAT HE WANTED TO TALK WITH EACH
06:01:49 COUNCILMAN.
06:01:50 JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS MATTER BECAUSE IT AFFECT THE
06:01:53 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS BEEN DEEMED TO BE A LEGISLATIVE
06:01:55 MATTER.
06:01:56 THERE IS NO CONCERN ABOUT EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS THAT NEED
06:02:00 TO BE DISCLOSED ON THIS.
06:02:03 YOU CAN HEAR FROM ALL PARTIES RELATIVE TO LEGISLATIVE
06:02:05 MATTERS, LEGISLATIVE COMP PLAN CHANGES.
06:02:09 SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WHAT NORMALLY APPLIES TO
06:02:13 REZONING, IN THESE CASES TONIGHT, AS A MATTER OF FACT, NONE
06:02:15 OF THEM ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL.
06:02:17 THEY ARE ALL LEGISLATIVE.
06:02:19 THANK YOU.
06:02:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
06:02:21 ITEM NUMBER 2.
06:02:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I'M SORRY.
06:02:24 I APOLOGIZE.
06:02:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO NEED TO APOLOGIZE.
06:02:28 IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
06:02:29 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
06:02:33 IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
06:02:51 THIS IS AN ADOPTION HEARING FOR TA/CPA 21-04.
06:02:56 THIS IS IN REGARDS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE FUTURE LAND
06:03:00 USE CATEGORY.
06:03:04 THIS IS PUBLICLY INITIATED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:03:06 IT WAS TRANSMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY
06:03:10 ON JULY 22ND OF 2021, AND EBO HAD NO COMMENT REGARDING THE
06:03:17 REQUEST.
06:03:20 A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
06:03:21 THIS IS INITIATED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:03:23 IT'S SEEKING TO AMEND THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE 16, THE
06:03:26 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE 24, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE 35
06:03:31 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES.
06:03:36 WE REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT THAT BUILDINGS MUST BE EITHER
06:03:39 RESIDENTIAL OR VERTICALLY INTEGRATED MIXED USE, TO BE ABLE
06:03:43 TO UTILIZE MAXIMUM F.A.R.
06:03:49 TO ADD THE WORDS GENERAL IN THE DESCRIPTION, THAT ALLOW
06:03:52 CONSIDERATION FOR ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL USES NOT CURRENTLY
06:03:58 PERMITTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE ZONING CODE.
06:04:02 CURRENTLY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE 35 IS THE ONLY
06:04:04 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE CATEGORY THAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN
06:04:07 PLACED ON LAND.
06:04:08 HERE WE ARE, THIS LARGE CIRCLE, THIS IS THE WEST RIVERFRONT
06:04:13 AREA.
06:04:14 THIS IS THE RIVER HERE.
06:04:16 THIS IS THE INTERSTATE 275 DOWN HERE.
06:04:20 THIS IS THE LARGE AREA OF NMU 35.
06:04:23 AND THEN THERE IS A SMALL POCKET OF JUST TO THE SOUTH, SOUTH
06:04:30 OF THE CITY BUILDING ON NORTH BOULEVARD, ACTUALLY, WHICH IS
06:04:33 RIGHT HERE.
06:04:37 I BELIEVE THAT'S CYPRESS.
06:04:42 YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT, WITH A
06:04:47 NUMBER OF POLICIES REGARDING THE PROMOTION OF A MIXED USE
06:04:50 COMMUNITIES.
06:04:51 AGAIN, THIS WILL CONTINUE TO PROMOTE VERTICAL MIXED USE
06:04:55 WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH THE ZONING CODE.
06:05:00 IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE PROMOTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT OF
06:05:03 THE WEST RIVERFRONT AREA.
06:05:07 AND BASED ON THAT, YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION DOES RECOMMEND
06:05:10 THAT THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH
06:05:13 THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
06:05:16 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:05:18 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
06:05:20 I BELIEVE RANDY GOERS FROM THE CITY IS ALSO ONLINE AND MAY
06:05:23 HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL.
06:05:26 OR IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
06:05:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. HEY AT THIS TIME?
06:05:33 ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. HEY?
06:05:35 ALL RIGHT, MR. GOERS, YOU ARE UP NEXT.
06:05:36 >>RANDY GOERS: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:05:38 RANDY GOERS, CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
06:05:41 I WILL BE BRIEF.
06:05:42 YOU REMEMBER THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW THE NONRESIDENTIAL
06:05:47 USES, THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE CATEGORY TO TAKE
06:05:52 ADVANTAGE OF THE SAME F.A.R. AS THE RESIDENTIAL OR MIXED USE
06:05:56 PROJECT, SPECIFICALLY IN THE WEST RIVER AREA, THERE ARE A
06:06:00 FEW NONRESIDENTIAL PROJECTS THAT WE EXPECT TO SEE, ONE OF
06:06:04 THEM A GROCERY STORE, ANOTHER ONE IS THE CULTURAL ARTS, OR
06:06:08 TECHNOLOGY CENTER, AND THEN THERE MAY BE AN AFRICAN MUSEUM
06:06:12 IN THE AREA.
06:06:13 THIS ALLOWS THOSE PROJECTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SAME
06:06:17 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AS RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE PROJECTS.
06:06:20 SO WE WOULD WELCOME YOUR SUPPORT OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
06:06:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS TO MR. GOERS?
06:06:28 ANY QUESTIONS?
06:06:30 ALL RIGHT.
06:06:31 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
06:06:38 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
06:06:41 ITEM NUMBER 2.
06:06:44 ANYBODY REGISTERED, MADAM CLERK?
06:06:48 >> YES, WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
06:06:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
06:06:52 >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS NICOLE, AND I AM AN ATTORNEY IN
06:07:04 TAMPA.
06:07:06 401 EAST JACKSON STREET FOR THE RECORD.
06:07:08 I AM HERE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT IN SUPPORT OF TPCPA
06:07:15 21-04.
06:07:17 I WAS ON THE TEAM THAT SERVED ON THE REDEVELOPMENT, AND
06:07:20 DURING THE PROJECT THE NMU 35, ACCOMPLISHING THE GOAL AND
06:07:26 THE INTENT OF THE PLAN.
06:07:27 BOTH PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED
06:07:30 APPROVAL OF THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AFTER CAREFUL
06:07:35 EXAMINATION OF THE HISTORY OF THIS AREA.
06:07:37 WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF
06:07:39 FOR RECOGNIZING THIS ISSUE AND WORKING WITH OUR TEAM TO MOVE
06:07:42 FORWARD WITH THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.
06:07:45 THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY AND THE RIVER
06:07:50 COMMUNITY AND WE SAW THE GRAND OPENING OF THREE TOWERS.
06:07:54 YOU BELIEVE THIS AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW TO CONTINUE THE RECORD
06:07:58 OF SUCCESS.
06:07:59 WITH THAT, I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:08:03 THANK YOU.
06:08:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?
06:08:11 ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK?
06:08:13 >> THE OTHER REGISTERED.
06:08:15 SPEAKER, DAVID SMITH, HAS NOT LOGGED ON, SO THAT WOULD
06:08:19 CONCLUDE THIS ITEM AS FAR AS SPEAKERS ARE CONCERNED.
06:08:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
06:08:22 NOBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR, CORRECT?
06:08:26 ALL RIGHT.
06:08:27 MR. MANISCALCO TO CLOSE AND MR. CITRO SECONDED IT.
06:08:31 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:08:32 OPPOSED?
06:08:34 MR. VIERA, ITEM NUMBER 2.
06:08:37 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
06:08:45 I MOVE -- CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME?
06:08:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
06:08:48 >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY.
06:08:49 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
06:08:53 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
06:08:57 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT TO AMEND THE
06:09:00 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE 16 NMU 16, NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE 24,
06:09:06 AND NMU 24, AND NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE 35, NMU 35,
06:09:11 CATEGORIES TO REMOVE REFERENCE TO VERTICAL MIXED USE
06:09:15 ALLOWING ALL DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE A MAXIMUM F.A.R. OF 1.5
06:09:20 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
06:09:23 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:09:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
06:09:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:09:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:09:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:09:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:09:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:09:34 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:09:35 >>BILL CARLSON: (NO AUDIBLE RESPONSE).
06:09:37 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
06:09:39 ABSENT AT VOTE.
06:09:40 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 21st
06:09:44 AT 9:30 A.M.
06:09:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS BY THE WEST RIVER BOULEVARD
06:09:51 APARTMENTS YESTERDAY.
06:09:53 THEY LOOK -- YOU WON'T KNOW WHO IS LIVING IN THOSE
06:09:59 APARTMENTS.
06:10:00 IT'S LOW INCOME, MIXED INCOME, APARTMENTS ALL LOOK THE SAME.
06:10:05 AND THEY ALL HAVE WASHERS, DRYERS, THEY ARE VERY NICE.
06:10:13 SO I AM GLAD, TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY DID A GREAT JOB WITH
06:10:19 THAT PROJECT.
06:10:20 ITEM NUMBER 3.
06:10:21 >>JENNIFER MALONE: NUMBER 3, I AM FILLING IN FOR DANNY
06:10:29 COLLINS.
06:10:29 THIS IS TA/CPA 21-06.
06:10:33 WE ARE GOING TO GO OVER A COUPLE PARKS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF
06:10:36 MINUTES.
06:10:36 21-06 IS COLLINS PARK, 2107 IS -- PARK AND THIS IS PART OF
06:10:44 THE ONGOING INITIATIVE TO RECOGNIZE THE TAMPA PARKS.
06:10:51 THIS IS THE PLAN.
06:10:53 SO 21-06 IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
06:10:56 HISTORIC HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE HYDE PARK URBAN
06:10:59 VILLAGE.
06:11:00 HERE IT IS.
06:11:03 AND BETWEEN WEST MATTHEW AVENUE AND WEST DEKLE AVENUE.
06:11:11 I HAVE SOME SITE PICTURES.
06:11:13 IT'S A VERY SMALL PARK.
06:11:15 AND THE REQUEST IS TO GO FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 TO RECOLLECT
06:11:19 NATIONAL -- RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE, TO REMOVE ANY POTENTIAL
06:11:25 SQUARE FOOTAGE.
06:11:26 WITH THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
06:11:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN?
06:11:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
06:11:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF MS. MALONE IS WILLING TO HEAR --
06:11:38 TALKING ABOUT 3, 4 AND 5 AT THIS POINT, CAN YOU DO THAT?
06:11:44 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I CAN DO THAT IF YOU LIKE.
06:11:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BECAUSE YOU CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC
06:11:48 HEARINGS -- ACTUALLY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, 3, 4 AND 5,
06:11:52 TO THE PUBLIC, ANYBODY TO SPEAK TO THOSE THREE ITEMS, AND WE
06:11:55 HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE.
06:11:57 YOU CAN READ THE ORDINANCE AND VOTE ON THEM SEPARATELY.
06:12:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
06:12:02 IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 3, 4 AND 5?
06:12:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHY DON'T WE HEAR THE REPORTS ON 3, 4 AND
06:12:09 5 AND THEN WE CAN OPEN THE FLOOR.
06:12:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
06:12:12 MS. MALONE.
06:12:13 >>JENNIFER MALONE: SO THE NEXT ONE IS 21-07, TEMPLE CREST
06:12:18 PARK IN THE TEMPLE CREST NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:12:21 THIS ONE OVER THE THRESHOLD TRANSMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
06:12:25 ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IN JUNE AND THEY HAVE NO COMMENTS.
06:12:30 A REFRESHER, HERE IT IS.
06:12:35 RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE, THE LITTLE PORTION DOWN ON THE
06:12:38 SOUTH WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL 20 AND THEN ON THE NORTH
06:12:41 RESIDENTIAL 10, AND THE PROPOSAL IS RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE.
06:12:50 AND THE NEXT ONE IS THE WOODLAWN CEMETERY, TAMPA HEIGHTS
06:12:57 NEIGHBORHOOD, URBAN VILLAGE.
06:13:00 THIS IS TRANSMITTED IN JUNE.
06:13:05 THIS IS THE PORTION THAT'S OWNED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:13:10 IT'S UNDER THE PUBLIC SEMI-PUBLIC LAND USE NOW.
06:13:15 AND THE WAY THAT THIS PROCESS HAS WORKED, WE ARE PROPOSING
06:13:18 THE RECOLLECTION RAKAL OPEN SPACE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THEIR
06:13:21 PARCEL THAT'S UNDER CITY OWNERSHIP.
06:13:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
06:13:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE OLDEST FIRST.
06:13:33 LET ME JUST SAY AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, THIS IS NOT THE
06:13:37 AMOUNT OF E-MAILS WE HAVE GOTTEN.
06:13:39 THIS IS NOT RELATED TO THAT.
06:13:41 AM I CORRECT?
06:13:41 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THAT AMENDMENT --
06:13:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PRIVATE SALE GOING TO ANOTHER PRIVATE
06:13:51 SALE, IF WHATEVER IT IS, I AM NOT GOING TO GET INVOLVED, BUT
06:13:54 THIS IS SOMETHING TO MAKE IT WHAT IT IS FOREVER.
06:13:56 >>JENNIFER MALONE: RIGHT.
06:13:58 THE OUTLINED PARCEL OWNED BY THE CITY, THERE ARE SOME OTHER
06:14:02 PARCELS LIKE THE ONES REMAINING IN BLUE ARE NOT UNDER
06:14:05 OWNERSHIP --
06:14:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:14:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. MALONE?
06:14:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE A QUESTION.
06:14:16 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
06:14:18 JENNIFER, LOOKING AT THE MAP THAT'S IN FRONT OF US, THE
06:14:22 UPPER LEFT CORNER IS THE SHOWMAN'S PROPERTY, TWO DIFFERENT
06:14:26 PARCELS.
06:14:28 THE LOWER LEFT CORNER IS THE CHURCH, WHICH IS ALSO PRIVATELY
06:14:33 OWNED, PRIVATE NONPROFIT.
06:14:35 IT'S WITHIN THE WOODLAWN BLOCK, BUT IT'S PRIVATELY OWNED,
06:14:38 JUST LIKE SHOWMAN'S.
06:14:40 BUT WHAT IS THAT SLIVER?
06:14:42 WHAT'S THAT SLIVER COMING DOWN THE LAST LITTLE BLUE?
06:14:48 >>JENNIFER MALONE: IT'S THE JEWISH CEMETERY.
06:14:54 OH, I'M SORRY.
06:14:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE DRIVEN BY MANY TIMES.
06:15:01 IT SAYS -- GEOGRAPHICALLY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAP A LOOK AT
06:15:06 THAT BETWEEN NOW AND SECOND READING, BECAUSE IT'S MY
06:15:11 RECOLLECTION THAT IT ABUTS IMMEDIATELY UP TO SHOWMAN'S, UP
06:15:17 THEREOF IN THAT CORNER, WHERE THE GREEN IS UP AT THE TOP.
06:15:21 I DOESN'T WANT TO MAKE A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT TONIGHT.
06:15:25 BUT --
06:15:28 >>JENNIFER MALONE: WE LOOKED AT THE PARCEL LEVEL AND WERE
06:15:31 VERY CAREFUL, AND MAYBE DAVID WANTS TO CHIME IN, BUT THE WAY
06:15:37 THE PARCEL OWNERSHIP IS ON THE PROPERTY, IT'S ONLY THE SMALL
06:15:43 STRIP.
06:15:45 I WILL ABSOLUTELY TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AND DEATH LET DAVID
06:15:48 CHIME IN.
06:15:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU MIGHT WANT TO DRIVE BY IT AND THEN
06:15:51 TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT.
06:15:52 BECAUSE I CUT THROUGH ON MY WAY HOME AND GO ALONG INDIANA
06:15:58 THERE.
06:15:59 SO I AM PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH IT. ANYWAY, OKAY THAT WAS MY
06:16:02 FIRST QUESTION.
06:16:02 MY SECOND QUESTION IS, IN REGARD TO THE PROPOSED USES FOR
06:16:06 THE RECREATION OPEN SPACE, AND IT'S SORT OF A STRANGE NAME
06:16:12 FOR THE CITY CEMETERY, IS RECREATION, I CAN'T FIND IT NOW ON
06:16:18 THE STAFF REPORT BUT I SAW IT EARLIER, AND I DON'T RECALL
06:16:22 THAT IT SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS CEMETERY AS ONE OF THE USES AM
06:16:27 I WRONG?
06:16:28 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THAT IS MOST LIKELY -- I DON'T HAVE IN
06:16:34 THE FRONT OF ME BUT THESE MOST LIKELY CORRECT.
06:16:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, HERE IT IS.
06:16:38 RANGE OF ALLOWABLE USES.
06:16:40 PARKS, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, GREENWAYS, NATURAL, MANAGED
06:16:44 AND CULTIVATED OPEN SPACE, GOLF COURSES AND COMMERCIAL
06:16:48 RECREATION, OUTDOOR USE ARE ALSO ALLOWED.
06:16:53 BUT IT WOULD KIND OF BE NICE ESPECIALLY FOR WOODLAWN IF WE
06:16:58 HAD SPECIFICALLY A NAMED USE THERE FOR THE CEMETERY.
06:17:04 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES, WE CAN ALWAYS TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
06:17:09 I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY FALL UNDER THE IMAGINED OPEN
06:17:12 SPACES AND THEN THE FACT THAT ALSO ON THE PARK LIST,
06:17:17 WOODLAWNS CEMETERY AND DOWNTOWN, COLOGNE CEMETERY UP ON
06:17:22 COLUMBUS AS WELL, BUT IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, WE
06:17:26 CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
06:17:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, I JUST NOTIFIED IT TODAY.
06:17:31 YOU ALL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND LET ME KNOW AT SECOND READING.
06:17:34 >>JENNIFER MALONE: OKAY.
06:17:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
06:17:38 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU.
06:17:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. MALONE?
06:17:45 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THAT WAS ACTUALLY MY PRESENTATION.
06:17:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. MALONE FOR 3, 4 OR 5?
06:17:52 ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC?
06:17:54 >>THE CLERK: THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS
06:17:57 ITEM.
06:17:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 3, 4 OR 5.
06:17:59 >>THE CLERK: NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
06:18:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOWNSTAIRS?
06:18:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR, MS. DEBBY?
06:18:06 >> NOBODY DOWN HERE.
06:18:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
06:18:08 MOVE TO CLOSE BY MR. MANISCALCO MOVED IT.
06:18:12 MR. CITRO SECONDED IT.
06:18:14 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:18:18 ANY OPPOSED?
06:18:19 MOTION CARRIED.
06:18:19 WE WILL TAKE EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY, MR. SHELBY?
06:18:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT.
06:18:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
06:18:30 THEN MR. CITRO.
06:18:31 THEN MR. DINGFELDER.
06:18:32 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE TA/CPA 21-06,
06:18:39 ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
06:18:42 FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE
06:18:45 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2105 WEST DEKLE AVENUE OTHERWISE KNOWN
06:18:50 AS COLLINS PARK FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 R-10 TO RECREATIONAL
06:18:54 OPEN SPACE R/OS PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
06:18:57 CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
06:18:58 DATE.
06:18:58 >> SECOND.
06:18:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
06:19:03 ROLL CALL.
06:19:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:19:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:19:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:19:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:19:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:19:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:19:15 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
06:19:18 VOTE.
06:19:19 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 21st
06:19:22 AT 9:30 A.M.
06:19:23 >> I HAD ONE PERSON TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 6.
06:19:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVEN'T GOT TONE ITEM NUMBER 6 YET.
06:19:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE TA/CPA 21-07, AN ORDINANCE BEING
06:19:43 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AMENDING THE
06:19:48 IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE
06:19:51 ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY
06:19:53 LOCATED AT 8116 NORTH 37th STREET, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
06:20:00 TEMPLE CREST PARK, FROM RESIDENTIAL 10, R-10, RESIDENTIAL
06:20:04 20, R-20, AND RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE R/OS TO RECREATIONAL
06:20:10 OPEN SPACE RO-1 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
06:20:15 CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
06:20:17 DATE.
06:20:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
06:20:20 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
06:20:21 ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:20:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:20:25 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:20:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:20:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:20:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:20:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:20:31 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
06:20:33 VOTE.
06:20:33 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 21st
06:20:36 AT 9:30 A.M.
06:20:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, NUMBER 5.
06:20:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARDS TO FILE TA/CPA 21-08 I MOVE
06:20:48 THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
06:20:50 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
06:20:54 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE
06:20:57 MAP FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 3412 NORTH OLA
06:21:02 AVENUE OTHERWISE KNOWN AS WOODLAWN CEMETERY FROM PUBLIC
06:21:05 SEMI-PUBLIC PSP TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE R/OS PROVIDING
06:21:11 FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR
06:21:14 SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:21:15 >> SECOND.
06:21:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
06:21:19 ROLL CALL.
06:21:19 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:21:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:21:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:21:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:21:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:21:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:21:28 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
06:21:30 VOTE.
06:21:31 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 21st
06:21:34 AT 9:30 A.M.
06:21:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 6.
06:21:39 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE AGAIN.
06:21:56 >> I WANTED CLARIFICATION ON ITEM NUMBER 3.
06:22:02 >>THE CLERK: WE HAD A VOTE.
06:22:03 THE MAKER WAS CARLSON.
06:22:05 SECOND WAS MANISCALCO.
06:22:06 SO IT PASSED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
06:22:08 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 21 AT
06:22:13 9:30 A.M.
06:22:14 >>DAVID HEY: THANK YOU.
06:22:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 6.
06:22:19 MS. MALONE.
06:22:20 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
06:22:22 THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 21-12, IT IS ROBLES
06:22:27 PARK, THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE AND TAMPA HEIGHTS
06:22:32 NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:22:35 HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE, EAST OF MARTIN LUTHER
06:22:38 KING JR. BOULEVARD AND EAST OF NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
06:22:41 THERE'S A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL USES ALONG NORTH FLORIDA
06:22:43 AVENUE.
06:22:46 THERE'S A CHURCH TO THE SOUTH AND A SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
06:22:49 TO THE SOUTH AS WELL, AND THEN TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE IS
06:22:54 ROBLES PARK COMMUNITY.
06:22:59 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS PRIVATELY INITIATED, UNDER THE NEW
06:23:04 STATE ACREAGE CHANGE [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] 30.03 ACRES FROM
06:23:18 RESIDENTIAL 35 TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
06:23:21 I DO HAVE SOME PICTURES.
06:23:24 THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG EAST LAKE AVENUE.
06:23:31 I HAVE THE SUBJECT SITE INTERNALLY.
06:23:36 THIS IS THE INTERSECTION OF EAST LAKE AVENUE, NORTH AVON
06:23:39 STREET FACING NORTH.
06:23:42 AND THIS IS THE INTERSECTION OF EAST LAKE AVENUE AND NORTH
06:23:44 FLORIDA AVENUE.
06:23:46 THE SUBJECT SITE WAS BEHIND ME WHEN I TOOK THIS PICTURE.
06:23:49 AND THIS IS SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, ACROSS THE STREET FROM
06:23:53 THE SUBJECT SITE ON NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE, SINGLE-FAMILY
06:23:57 DETACHED.
06:23:58 IT IS WITHIN THE PROXIMITY OF THE SITE.
06:24:02 THE ADOPTIVE FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL 35.
06:24:05 TO THE NORTH IS RESIDENTIAL 20.
06:24:07 THAT'S THAT LIGHTER BROWN COLOR.
06:24:10 FURTHER NORTH IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
06:24:12 THAT'S THE PINK.
06:24:13 AND THE RED IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 ON THE EAST ALONG
06:24:18 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
06:24:19 THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL USES, 35
06:24:27 IS MORE INTENSIVE.
06:24:27 THE BLUE IS THE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CHURCH PUBLIC
06:24:33 SEMI-PUBLIC LAND USE DESIGNATION THE GREEN TO THE SOUTH IS
06:24:37 ROBLES PARK, THE CITY PARK.
06:24:39 AND THEN THERE IS SOME RESIDENTIAL 10 IN THE AREA, AND
06:24:41 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
06:24:45 IN THE PROPOSAL, COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, WE ALREADY HAVE
06:24:50 THAT COLOR TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:24:54 THAT PINK IS ALREADY PRESENT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
06:24:57 IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE POTENTIAL OF THE DWELLING UNITS,
06:25:03 AND THAT WOULD BE FLOOR AREA RATIO OPTION IN THE
06:25:06 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:25:08 RESIDENTIAL 35 AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 ARE BOTH
06:25:12 CALCULATED AT 35 PER ACRE OR THE FLOOR AREA RATIO TO ALLOW
06:25:19 FOR THAT AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL USES.
06:25:25 THAT WILL INCREASE ABOUT 78 THAT YOU TO 2.6 MILLION SQUARE
06:25:31 FEET.
06:25:32 THE PROPOSAL IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 CONSIDERATION BUT
06:25:36 ALSO ALLOWS COMMERCIAL USES ON THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:25:41 JUST A LITTLE HISTORY.
06:25:42 I'M SURE EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH IT.
06:25:44 BUT SECTION 18, THERE IS SIGNIFICANT -- ZION CEMETERY WAS
06:25:56 DISCOVERED WITH GROUND PENETRATING RADAR A COUPLE OF YEARS
06:25:59 AGO.
06:26:00 AND ANY PRESERVATION OF THE CEMETERY WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED IN
06:26:03 THE REZONING PROCESS.
06:26:05 I'M SURE THE APPLICANT WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE PETITION
06:26:09 AS WELL.
06:26:22 IT ENCOURAGES MIXED USE IN-FILL WITH TRANSIT AND EMPLOYMENT
06:26:26 SERVICES AND DIRECT THE CITY TO ENSURE GROWTH TO URBAN
06:26:31 VILLAGES.
06:26:32 IT IS LOCATED IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
06:26:35 WE FOUND INCREASING THE DENSITY CONSISTENT WITH SELF
06:26:37 OBJECTIVES POLICIES WITH, PROMOTES -- [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
06:26:45 WE WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT WHILE THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
06:26:48 WOULD ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL USE ON-SITE, THERE ARE
06:26:52 REQUIREMENTS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, IF RESIDENTIAL IS
06:26:55 ADJACENT TO COMMERCIAL USES.
06:26:57 SO WITH THAT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS
06:27:00 CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN.
06:27:01 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:27:02 AND THE APPLICANT AS WELL.
06:27:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
06:27:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU KNOW WHO LIVED HERE IN 62-63?
06:27:14 MY MOTHER AND MY GRANDPARENTS, WHEN THEY CAME FROM CUBA.
06:27:17 THEY LIVED HERE IN ROBLES PARK AND THEN THEY MOVED TO
06:27:20 48th STREET, HIGHLANDS PINES A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
06:27:25 THE HOUSE IS STILL THERE.
06:27:26 BUT I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT IN THERE.
06:27:29 AND ALSO, ANOTHER ITEM HAS BEEN CONTINUED TONIGHT, BUT IT
06:27:37 SEEMS LIKE THE CITY, OR THE COMMUNITY, ZION CEMETERY, SEEMS
06:27:44 TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A REPUTATION OF PAVING OVER AREAS
06:27:49 THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW OR WHATEVER IT WAS, THAT THERE WAS A
06:27:53 CEMETERY AT ONE POINT, AND HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, AND
06:27:55 THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, AND YOU SAW THAT IN THE NEWS.
06:27:59 JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT.
06:28:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
06:28:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CURIOUS, AND I KNOW
06:28:08 IT'S NOT 1,000 PERCENT, THAT OUR LAND USE DECISIONS ARE
06:28:16 RIGHT, BUT SINCE GUIDO MENTIONED IT, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
06:28:20 CURIOUS EXACTLY WHERE THE ZION WAS DISCOVERED, MR. CHAIR.
06:28:25 AND MAYBE THEY CAN HELP.
06:28:31 RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE --
06:28:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HE'S GOING TO PUT UP A MAP.
06:28:36 IT'S SHOWING VIRGINIA AVENUE AT THE TOP OF THIS PROJECT.
06:28:40 AND THEY MENTIONED THE NORTHWEST CORNER.
06:28:53 LOAN MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WAS IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER.
06:28:56 >> THERE'S FLORIDA.
06:29:05 THERE'S VIRGINIA.
06:29:06 SO THAT MIDDLE PORTION IN HERE.
06:29:08 AND I THINK WE ARE -- I THINK THAT'S IT.
06:29:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO IN THAT REGARD, CHANGING THE FUTURE
06:29:21 LAND USE MAP TO A CMU-35, DO WE HAVE ANY HESITATIONS, WHY IS
06:29:33 IT WE ARE NOT RESERVING THAT UPPER NORTHWEST CORNER FOR THE
06:29:41 RECREATION OPEN SPACE CEMETERY TYPE AREA?
06:29:47 I'M CONFIDENT THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS NOT GOING TO DO
06:29:49 ANYTHING BAD, BUT JUST FROM A CONSISTENCY PERSPECTIVE, I AM
06:29:55 JUST WONDERING WHY WE DON'T USE THAT R/OS DESIGNATION UP IN
06:30:02 THAT TO CORNER WHERE WE KNOW THERE ARE GRAVES?
06:30:10 AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A QUESTION FOR YOU, JEN.
06:30:13 IF YOU WANT TO DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT, I SEE THE
06:30:19 ILLUSTRIOUS MR. SMITH THERE ON THE SCREEN.
06:30:21 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I WILL DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT.
06:30:26 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
06:30:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
06:30:29 WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT NOW.
06:30:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MICROPHONE, DAVID.
06:30:33 >> DAVID SMITH, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET 33601, SUITE 2100,
06:30:45 WITH STEARNS WEAVER MILLER REPRESENTING APPLICANT.
06:30:49 THERE'S REALLY A STAFF REPORT, AND I THINK I CAN GET TO THE
06:30:51 POINT OF THE MATTER.
06:30:52 THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, TO
06:30:55 FACILITATE THE REDEVELOPMENT SIMILAR TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN
06:30:58 WEST RIVER, AND HAS ALREADY HAPPENED IN OTHER HOUSING
06:31:01 AUTHORITY PROJECTS, TO COME IN WITH A MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL
06:31:08 DEVELOPMENT, THAT WILL PROVIDE MANY MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
06:31:11 UNITS.
06:31:12 WE HAVE THE DENSITY ON THE PARTICULAR SITE, BUT DUE TO
06:31:15 LOCATIONAL CRITERIA IT DID NOT FACILITATE A WELL PLANNED
06:31:19 MIXED USE COMMUNITY, AND THAT IS THE BASIC REASON FOR THE
06:31:22 CMU-35 ON THE PROPERTY.
06:31:24 WE SEE THIS AS A SPRINGBOARD CATALYTIC PROJECT FOR THE AREA.
06:31:30 HOPEFULLY, AS THIS REDEVELOPS, WITH A LOT OF THOSE
06:31:35 AUTOMOBILES, CI USES, START TO TRANSITION INTO MORE
06:31:39 NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING USES AS OPPOSED TO AUTOMOTIVE BASED
06:31:44 USES.
06:31:44 WITH RESPECT TO THE ZION CEMETERY, ZION CEMETERY ON THE
06:31:52 TAMPA HOUSING PROPERTY BUT ALSO OFF-SITE, OUTSIDE WHAT WE
06:31:55 ARE PROPOSING FOR THE CMU-35, IS IN PRIVATE OWNERSHIP.
06:31:59 SO AT THIS TIME, FOR OUR PROJECT, THE INCLUSION OF THE
06:32:02 PROPERTY, FOR DENSITY PURPOSES, ALLOWS US TO UTILIZE THAT
06:32:06 LAND TO MAXIMIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT, ALSO THE MIXED
06:32:13 USE PROJECT, AND THEN ALSO FACILITATE BEING ABLE TO FUND
06:32:17 PRESERVATION EFFORTS FOR ZION CEMETERY.
06:32:21 PART OF THE PROJECT INCLUDES A MUSEUM, A MEMORIAL FOR THE
06:32:26 ZION, AND EXPANSION TO PROTECT THAT IN WORKING WITH ADJACENT
06:32:31 PROPERTY OWNERS WHOSE PROPERTY IS AFFECTED BY THE ZION
06:32:35 DISCOVERY.
06:32:37 SO I THINK LOOKING AT IT FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, I
06:32:41 THINK MAYBE IT'S PREMATURE AT THIS TIME TO DESIGNATE IT AS
06:32:45 SUCH FOR THE PURPOSE OF MOVING THE PROJECT FORWARD, BUT IT
06:32:48 MAY BE SOMETHING ONCE ON A PRESERVATION EFFORTS IS UNDERWAY,
06:32:52 BE ABLE TO GET THE MUSEUM IN PLACE, ACQUIRE SOME OF THAT
06:32:55 PRIVATE LAND.
06:32:56 THAT MAY BE THE APPROPRIATE LAND USE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S
06:32:58 PRESERVED IN PERPETUITY.
06:33:00 IT WILL ALSO BE PART OF A REZONING ACTIVITY, AT LEAST THE
06:33:06 PROPERTY WE CONTROL, MOVING FORWARD WITH A REDEVELOPMENT OF
06:33:09 ROBLES PARK.
06:33:11 THERE ARE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT ARE
06:33:13 ONLINE AND SIGNED UP FOR THE APPLICANT, THAT DEALT WITH THE
06:33:19 MASTER PLAN AND MORE SPECIFIC THE GENERAL RESPONSE TO YOUR
06:33:22 QUESTION, AND I HOPE THAT HELPS.
06:33:25 IF NOT, THERE WILL BE OTHERS THAT CAN ANSWER MORE
06:33:27 SPECIFICALLY THE QUESTION.
06:33:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
06:33:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO, MR. SMITH, WE HAVE GOT APPROXIMATELY
06:33:37 30 ACRES TO THE UNDER THE HOUSING AUTHORITY CONTROL.
06:33:44 WHAT PERCENTAGE OR HOW MANY ACRES OR LESS THAN AN ACRE OR
06:33:48 WHATEVER ARE WE TALKING ABOUT FOR ZION THAT'S WITHIN THE
06:33:52 HOUSING AUTHORITY PROPER?
06:33:57 >>DAVID SMITH: I THINK AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN --
06:34:02 IT'S ABOUT AN ACRE.
06:34:05 IT'S WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.
06:34:08 AND THERE'S LIKELY MORE OF THE OUTSIDE ON OTHER PRIVATE
06:34:12 PROPERTY.
06:34:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT OUTSIDE TONIGHT.
06:34:17 BECAUSE THAT'S NOT IN FRONT OF US.
06:34:21 SO THAT MAKES A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF YOUR
06:34:28 DENSITIES AND, I MEAN, CLEARLY WE ALL KNOW YOU ARE NOT GOING
06:34:32 TO BE BUILDING ON TOP OF THAT, BUT YOU NEED THAT FOR YOUR
06:34:36 DENSITY CALCULATIONS AND EVERYTHING TO DO WHAT YOU ARE GOING
06:34:40 TO DO ELSEWHERE?
06:34:41 >> DAVID SMITH: WELL, SINCE PART OF THE MASTER PLAN EFFORT
06:34:46 IS TO PRESERVE ZION, THE DEVELOPMENT RISK TO THE PROPERTY,
06:34:51 IN OUR MOVING FORWARD, ISN'T REALLY A REALITY.
06:34:55 IT'S GOING TO BE PRESERVED.
06:34:57 WE THINK THAT PUTTING RECREATION OPEN SPACE ON A PIECE OF
06:35:00 THE PROPERTY NOW BEFORE WE GET TO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT
06:35:03 PLANS AND TRY TO INCORPORATE OUR MASTER PLAN THAT INCLUDES
06:35:08 OTHER PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO IT WOULD BE PREMATURE.
06:35:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PERHAPS I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF
06:35:14 I HAD YOUR AND YOUR CLIENT'S ASSURANCE THAT WHEN ALL IS SAID
06:35:21 AND DONE THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WILL CIRCLE BACK AND DO
06:35:26 A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THAT SACRED AREA, AND OBVIOUSLY
06:35:32 THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO, THREE DOWN THE ROAD, BUT
06:35:36 JUST FOR CONSISTENCY SAKE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WERE OVER AT
06:35:43 WOODLAWN AND THAT'S THE REASON WE DID IT AT WOODLAWN, THAT'S
06:35:46 THE REASON WE DID IT DOWNTOWN, ET CETERA, RECREATION OPEN
06:35:49 SPACE.
06:35:49 SO I'M OKAY WITH IT TONIGHT.
06:35:52 I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM TONIGHT.
06:35:54 BUT PERHAPS BY SECOND READING YOU CAN GIVE US ASSURANCES AS
06:35:58 TO HOW THE AUTHORITY WILL COME BACK AND DO A COMP PLAN
06:36:02 AMENDMENT FOR THAT SMALL LITTLE ZION PARCEL.
06:36:07 THERE'S MS. SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ RAISING HER HAND.
06:36:10 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:36:13 MAY I BE RECOGNIZED?
06:36:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
06:36:17 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
06:36:18 MR. DINGFELDER, I UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENTS, BUT I WOULD BE
06:36:21 CONCERNED AND CAUTION COUNCIL AGAINST IMPOSING ANY TYPE OF
06:36:25 CONDITIONS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
06:36:28 IF YOU HAVE SOME CONCERNS, THEN PERHAPS THERE WOULD BE
06:36:32 CONSIDERATION OF TAKING THAT LAND OUT, BUT IT WOULD BE
06:36:36 PROBLEMATIC TO CONDITION YOUR DECISION BY THE APPLICANT.
06:36:43 AGAIN, IT'S A POLICY DECISION WHETHER OR NOT THE REQUESTED
06:36:48 LAND CATEGORY TO THE PARCEL THAT IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
06:36:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CONDITION OR
06:37:02 JUST A VERBAL ASSURANCE, SOME SORT OF MORAL ASSURANCE OR
06:37:10 WHATEVER?
06:37:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, HAVE YOU SEEN THE ROBLES
06:37:16 PARK PLAN YET?
06:37:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
06:37:19 AND I TRUST IT'S GOING TO BE DONE, I TRUST IT'S ALL
06:37:22 WONDERFUL.
06:37:22 I'M JUST SAYING FROM A CONSISTENCY PERSPECTIVE, WE JUST
06:37:25 SPENT A YEAR GOING THROUGH ALL OF OUR PARKS AND MAKING SURE
06:37:30 THEY ARE IN RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE, WE HAVE GOT THREE
06:37:33 CEMETERIES, MAKE SURE THEY ARE RECREATION OPEN SPACE, AND WE
06:37:36 DO THAT FOR GOOD REASON, SO HERE IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.
06:37:39 I'M NOT TRYING TO HOLD THIS ONE UP TONIGHT.
06:37:42 SUSAN, I AM NOT TRYING TO OWN, YOU KNOW, MAKE THEM
06:37:46 CONDITIONED FOR APPROVAL.
06:37:48 ALL I AM ASKING IS PERHAPS THEY CAN GIVE US SOME VERBAL
06:37:51 ASSURANCE A COUPLE WEEKS FROM NOW TO SAY, BY THE WAY, WE
06:37:54 HEAR YOU, AND WE ARE GLAD TO DO THAT DOWN THE ROAD.
06:37:57 >> IF I MIGHT, I THINK WE'LL SPEAK WITH THE HOUSING
06:38:03 AUTHORITY.
06:38:03 I THINK THE -- WHEN THE PD AMENDMENT COMES THROUGH, WITH THE
06:38:10 PROPERTY, THAT IT WILL BE PRESERVED, AND AT THAT POINT IN
06:38:13 TIME, WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE IT ON PAPER, EVERYBODY CAN SEE
06:38:17 THE BOUNDARIES AND WHAT'S INVOLVED, THAT THAT MAY A GREAT
06:38:21 TIME FOR US TO FORMALLY DEMONSTRATE THAT, YES, WE ARE GOING
06:38:26 TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH AN AMENDMENT TO PUT THAT IN OPEN
06:38:29 SPACE CATEGORY.
06:38:31 BUT BETWEEN NOW AND SECOND READING, I WILL DISCUSS THAT WITH
06:38:36 THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
06:38:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DEED RESTRICTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
06:38:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DID SEE THE DRAWINGS WHERE THEY MAPPED
06:38:49 OUT THE CEMETERY AREA IT'S REAL NICE HOW THEY ARE GOING TO
06:38:52 MONUMENT IT OVER THERE.
06:38:54 ANYONE ELSE FOR -- MS. MALONE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
06:38:59 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I JUST WANTED TO STATE FOR THE RECORD,
06:39:03 RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE APPLIES TO CEMETERIES AROUND THE
06:39:08 CITY -- [NO ENCODER]
06:39:11 [NO ENCODER]
06:39:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE HERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK
06:39:37 ON THIS ITEM?
06:39:38 ITEM NUMBER 6.
06:39:43 I SAW MISS DEBBY EARLIER.
06:39:46 IS THAT ONE PERSON STILL THERE, MISS DEBBY?
06:39:49 >>THE CLERK: YES.
06:39:54 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
06:39:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:39:56 >> WILLIAM SASHA.
06:40:02 I'M FOR THE CHANGE IN THIS LOCATION.
06:40:04 THERE'S MANY REASONS WHY, IT'S LONG OVERDUE.
06:40:09 I WAS ALSO RAISED IN ROBLES PARK, AS THE YOUNG MAN BACK IN
06:40:12 THE 80s SO I AM BACK TO THE AREA BECAUSE I LIKE THE AREA,
06:40:19 BOUGHT A HOUSE THERE SO VERY MUCH VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE
06:40:22 AREA AND WHAT IT HAS, AND WHAT IT HAS GONE THROUGH.
06:40:26 AND ALSO, TO BE REAL QUICK, IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S SO MUCH
06:40:30 THAT'S GOING ON NOW THAT CONSISTS ALONG CENTRAL AVENUE, AND
06:40:34 I THINK I HAVE SPOKEN TO MR. GUDES ABOUT THAT SITUATION.
06:40:38 BUT THE PEOPLE STANDING OUT ALONG THE STREET, DOING THIS AND
06:40:43 THAT, WE NEED TO HAVE A CHANGE, IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE OVER
06:40:46 THERE, BECAUSE THE CHANGES WERE ALL NEEDED.
06:40:49 AND I THINK IT WILL BRING BACK THE COMMUNITY AND BRING BACK
06:40:52 PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WORK IN THE COMMUNITY AND DO BETTER FOR
06:40:54 THE COMMUNITY.
06:40:55 THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.
06:40:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
06:40:57 I HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE HOUSING
06:40:58 AUTHORITY'S PLAN, AND HOW THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK AT CENTRAL
06:41:01 AVENUE, AND TRYING TO ACQUIRE PROPERTIES TO DO JUST WHAT YOU
06:41:05 ARE TALKING ABOUT.
06:41:06 TESTIMONY BE A GREAT CHANGE FOR THAT AREA.
06:41:08 ANYONE ELSE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, MISS DEBBY?
06:41:11 >> NO, SIR.
06:41:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM?
06:41:16 >> YES, WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER.
06:41:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
06:41:18 >>THE CLERK: MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
06:41:23 THE ONLY THING HE DOES NOT HAVE THE VIDEO CAPABILITY.
06:41:28 BUT AGAIN THIS IS A NON-QUASI ITEM, IS THAT CORRECT, MR.
06:41:35 SHELBY?
06:41:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD THINK SO, YES.
06:41:42 >>THE CLERK: MR. RANDOLPH, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
06:41:44 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:41:45 I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY THANKING THE CITY PLANNING AND
06:41:48 COUNTY PLANNING BECAUSE I HAVE -- ON THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL.
06:42:04 IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM ME.
06:42:07 THE CEMETERY IS PART OF THE ROBLES PARK MAP AMENDMENT, BUT
06:42:13 THE MAP WAS PUT TOGETHER, AND PART OF THAT IS TO LOOK AT --
06:42:19 AND THERE WAS A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH THE COMMITTEE TO MAKE A
06:42:23 DECISION ON THAT.
06:42:24 SO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS -- IN THE CONCLUSION OF WHAT
06:42:33 HAPPENS AT THAT PARK.
06:42:38 THEY HAVE MULTI-PROGRAMS WHICH IS GOOD.
06:42:52 [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
06:42:53 IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO CONNECT TO THE INTERNET, YOU CAN'T DO
06:42:55 THAT.
06:43:02 CRIME IS GOING TO BE REDUCED.
06:43:06 THEY ARE GOING TO BE TECHNOLOGICALLY CONNECTED.
06:43:10 IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
06:43:14 IT'S GOING TO INCREASE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
06:43:17 IT'S GOING TO INCREASE ECONOMIC -- IN THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S
06:43:24 GOING TO INCREASE THE ECONOMIC VIBE IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE
06:43:34 THEY CAN OWN THEIR OWN BUSINESS.
06:43:36 SO AT THE END OF THE DAY I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS PLAN.
06:43:39 IF YOU LIVE IN ROBLES PARK YOU KNOW THE CONDITIONS.
06:43:48 THEY ARE GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO.
06:43:56 SO I DIDN'T MANY TO TAKE TOO MUCH TIME.
06:44:00 I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH.
06:44:09 I WISH IT WAS DONE.
06:44:11 THANK YOU.
06:44:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
06:44:14 ANYONE ELSE REGISTERED?
06:44:18 >> THAT WAS THE ONLY REGISTERED SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM.
06:44:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:44:25 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
06:44:26 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:44:27 OPPOSED?
06:44:28 ALL RIGHT.
06:44:28 MR. MIRANDA, NUMBER 6.
06:44:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 6, TA/CPA 21-12.
06:44:37 MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
06:44:39 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
06:44:44 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE
06:44:47 MAP FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 3814 NORTH CENTRAL
06:44:51 AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL 35, R-35, TO MIXED USE, COMMUNITY
06:44:56 MIXED USE 35, CMU-35, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES
06:45:01 IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
06:45:03 EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:45:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
06:45:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:45:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:45:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:45:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:45:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:45:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:45:16 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:45:18 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:45:19 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 21st
06:45:23 AT 9:30 A.M.
06:45:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 7 WAS TAKEN CARE OF EARLIER.
06:45:30 ITEM NUMBER 8.
06:45:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
06:45:35 THE NEXT FOUR ITEMS ALL TAKEN TOGETHER ARE ALL -- YOU COULD
06:45:44 DO WHAT WE DID THE LAST TIME AND DO THE FULL PRESENTATION.
06:45:48 I UNDERSTAND FROM MRS. MERCER, THERE'S NOBODY LEFT ON TWO.
06:45:53 IS THERE ANYBODY LEFT TONIGHT ON THESE PARKS?
06:45:57 OR ANYBODY ELSE, FOR THAT MATTER?
06:46:00 >> WE HAVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR ITEM NUMBER 14.
06:46:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 14.
06:46:03 SO IF YOU WISH TO TAKE THEM TOGETHER, THE PRESENTATION --
06:46:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 8, 9, 10, 11?
06:46:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
06:46:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
06:46:14 TAKE THEM ALL TOGETHER.
06:46:15 >>THE CLERK: EXCUSE ME, AND ALSO REGISTERED SPEAKER FOR
06:46:19 ITEM NUMBER 10.
06:46:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
06:46:22 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
06:46:29 I WILL START WITH ITEM NUMBER 8, WHICH IS TA/CPA 21-15.
06:46:36 THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TODAY.
06:46:43 I AM GOING TO SAY FRIENDSHIP PARK.
06:46:46 I DON'T WANT TO MISPRONOUNCE THAT.
06:46:58 THEY ARE GOING CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN PROMOTING RECREATION
06:47:02 AND OPEN SPACE OPPORTUNITY.
06:47:04 WE HAVE THE CENTRAL PLANNING DISTRICT, DAVIS ISLAND
06:47:08 NEIGHBORHOOD AND DAVIS ISLAND VILLAGE.
06:47:10 HERE IT IS ALONG DAVIS BOULEVARD.
06:47:13 I HAVE SOME SUBJECT SITE PICTURES, PRETTY SMALL.
06:47:18 AND ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL 35, AND
06:47:22 RESIDENTIAL 10.
06:47:24 AND THIS WOULD TAKE IN THAT RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE.
06:47:28 AGAIN IT WOULD REMOVE ANY POTENTIAL, THE DWELLING UNITS,
06:47:32 NONRESIDENTIAL SQUIRE FOOTAGE, AND THAT IS CONSISTENT.
06:47:36 I AM GOING TO MOVE ONTO THE NEXT ONE.
06:47:39 21-16 IS THE KID MAY SEASON CENTER, DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD,
06:47:48 RIGHT ACROSS FROM OAK LAWN CEMETERY ON NORTH JEFFERSON
06:47:54 STREET AND RIGHT DOWNTOWN.
06:47:56 PICTURES OF THE SIGNS.
06:48:02 THE FUTURE LAND USE IS CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, AND THE
06:48:05 REQUEST WOULD TAKE US TO THE RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE.
06:48:11 OAK LAWN CEMETERY TO THE WEST FOR THE RECREATIONAL OPEN
06:48:16 SPACE.
06:48:18 AGAIN THAT WOULD REMOVE ANY POTENTIAL FROM RESIDENTIAL ON
06:48:23 THE SITE.
06:48:25 THERE IS NO LIMIT -- AND IT IS CONSISTENT.
06:48:29 THE NEXT ONE IS 21-17, THE FRIENDSHIP PARK, IN THE SOUTH
06:48:33 TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, IN THE VIRGINIA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:48:36 IT'S AT SOUTH LOIS AVENUE AND WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD.
06:48:43 THEN I HAVE SUBJECT SITE PICTURES.
06:48:47 THE SURROUNDING AREA.
06:48:49 THE PARK ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN.
06:48:51 FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL 10.
06:48:53 REQUEST TO GO TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE.
06:48:56 AGAIN, POTENTIAL FOR NONRESIDENTIAL OR DWELLING UNITS ON THE
06:49:03 SUBJECT SITE AND IT'S CONSISTENT.
06:49:04 LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE HAVE PORT TAMPA PARK IN THE CENTRAL
06:49:08 PLANNING DISTRICT IN THE PORT TAMPA CITY NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:49:11 HERE IT IS, WEST McCOY STREET.
06:49:16 THIS IS WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
06:49:18 I HAVE SOME SUBJECT SITE PICTURES OF THE AMENITIES.
06:49:24 AND MOST OF THIS IS ALREADY RECREATION A -- RECREATIONAL
06:49:29 OPEN SPACE, A VERY SMALL PORTION IS RESIDENTIAL 10.
06:49:31 THIS WILL JUST CLEAN UP THE -- THE ENTIRE PARK IS
06:49:36 RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE AND IS GOING TO REMOVE THAT ONE
06:49:40 DWELLING UNIT, THAT RESIDENTIAL SQUIRE FOOTAGE.
06:49:44 AND I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
06:49:47 THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
06:49:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
06:49:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE]
06:50:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GUESS WHAT ELSE IS IN THAT PARK?
06:50:09 IT'S NO LONGER THERE.
06:50:10 IT'S ONE OF THE LAST PARKS THAT HAS STAMPED ON THE SIDEWALK,
06:50:15 NICK NUCCIO, COUNTY COMMISSIONER, AND HE WOULD STAMP
06:50:18 BENCHES, AND ALL THAT STUFF.
06:50:19 BUT THEY REDID THE PARK RECENTLY SO THEY TORE OUT THAT PARK.
06:50:24 IT WAS A BASKETBALL COURT.
06:50:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL --
06:50:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM GLAD TO SEE WHERE KID MASON IS.
06:50:35 I HAD NO IDEA WHERE IT WAS.
06:50:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON ANY
06:50:47 OF THE ITEMS, 8 THROUGH 11?
06:50:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOBODY ON 2.
06:50:52 THERE'S SOMEBODY ON NUMBER 10, I BELIEVE.
06:50:54 >>THE CLERK: MICHAEL DUNKOFF.
06:51:01 >> MIKA --
06:51:06 HE'S REGISTERED BUT IS NOT LOGGED ON AT THIS TIME.
06:51:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
06:51:09 MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:51:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
06:51:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
06:51:15 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:51:16 OPPOSED?
06:51:16 MOTION CARRIED.
06:51:17 MR. VIERA, YOU CAN HANDLE NUMBER 8 FOR US, SIR?
06:51:22 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
06:51:23 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
06:51:25 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
06:51:29 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE
06:51:34 MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 106 EAST DAVIS BOULEVARD,
06:51:38 OTHERWISE KNOWN AS DAVIS ISLANDS APEX PARK, FROM RESIDENTIAL
06:51:43 35, R-35, AND RESIDENTIAL R-10 TO RECREATIONAL ON SPACE R/OS
06:51:50 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING
06:51:52 FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:51:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
06:51:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
06:51:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:51:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:52:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:52:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:52:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:52:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:52:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:52:06 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:52:08 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 21st
06:52:11 AT 9:30 A.M.
06:52:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, TAKE NUMBER 9 FOR US.
06:52:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
06:52:22 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
06:52:25 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT FUTURE LAND USE
06:52:29 MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1101 NORTH JEFFERSON STREET
06:52:32 OTHERWISE KNOWN AS KID MASON CENTER FROM CENTRAL BUSINESS
06:52:36 DISTRICT CDB TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE R/OS PROVIDING FOR
06:52:41 AWL REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR
06:52:43 SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:52:44 >> SECOND.
06:52:45 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
06:52:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
06:52:48 ROLL CALL.
06:52:48 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:52:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:52:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:52:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:52:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:52:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:52:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:52:56 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:52:57 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 21st
06:53:00 AT 9:30 A.M.
06:53:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, NUMBER 10, PLEASE.
06:53:04 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER TA/CPA
06:53:11 21-17, FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
06:53:14 AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE
06:53:17 LAND USE ELEMENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY
06:53:20 LOCATED AT 4124 WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
06:53:26 MARCELLINO CHELO HUERTA JR. FRIENDSHIP PARK FROM RESIDENTIAL
06:53:32 10, R-10 TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE R/OS PROVIDING FOR
06:53:37 REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR
06:53:39 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:53:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
06:53:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:53:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:53:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:53:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:53:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:53:50 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:53:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:53:52 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:53:54 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 21st
06:53:57 AT 9:30 A.M.
06:54:01 MIRANDA MANOR THAT'S RIGHT THERE IN YBOR CITY, JUST TO THE
06:54:04 SITE OF 24th, I BELIEVE WAS CALLED OWENS, AND A GREAT
06:54:10 COACH, A GREAT GUY, AND TOOK TIME TO SPEAK TO ALL THE KIDS,
06:54:14 AND HE REALLY HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND ONE OF THE LEADING
06:54:17 COACHES AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
06:54:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
06:54:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PLAYED BALL AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
06:54:27 FLORIDA.
06:54:29 >> WERE YOU INVOLVED IN NAMING THAT?
06:54:31 >> NO, I WAS IN LITTLE LEAGUE.
06:54:32 [ LAUGHTER ]
06:54:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE] I THINK THERE'S SOME
06:54:40 PERSONAL HARD FEELINGS.
06:54:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WAS GOOD FRIENDS WESTBOUND JOHN ALCOTT.
06:54:48 HE WENT TO FLORIDA.
06:54:49 AND I TOLD HIM THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO THAT, I HAVE TWO
06:54:55 PEOPLE ON EACH SIDE, AND HE DID, HE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE
06:54:59 THING, HE GAVE UP -- CAN'T DO IT NOW.
06:55:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST
06:55:11 READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE
06:55:14 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT,
06:55:19 FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4702 WEST
06:55:24 McCOY STREET OTHERWISE KNOWN AS PORT TAMPA PARK FROM
06:55:28 RESIDENTIAL 10 R-10 TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE R/OS TO
06:55:34 RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE R/OS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
06:55:40 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
06:55:44 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:55:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
06:55:48 ROLL CALL.
06:55:48 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:55:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:55:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:55:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:55:54 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:55:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:55:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:55:58 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:55:59 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 21st
06:56:02 AT 9:30 A.M.
06:56:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT.
06:56:12 NUMBER 14.
06:56:14 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
06:56:19 IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
06:56:36 YOUR LAST AMENDMENT SINGLE-FAMILY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT
06:56:39 AMENDMENT 21-11, IN REGARDS TO FLOOR AREA RATIO, THE
06:56:43 UTILIZATION OF FLOOR AREA RATIO FOR RESIDENTIAL AND
06:56:47 COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 AND URBAN
06:56:51 MIXED USE 60 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
06:56:58 A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT THE REQUEST.
06:57:00 ON APRIL 1st OF THIS YEAR, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL DID DIRECT
06:57:04 CITY STAFF TO REVIEW THE USE OF FLOOR AREA RATIO IN
06:57:08 DETERMINING MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL FOR SINGLE USE
06:57:12 STRUCTURES.
06:57:14 THIS ABILITY TO UTILIZE F.A.R. WAS IN THE MIXED USE
06:57:17 CATEGORY, HAS BEEN AN OPTION WITHIN TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
06:57:20 SINCE AT LEAST THE 1998 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PURPLE AS
06:57:25 STATED IS N THAT 1998 PLAN WAS "THIS CONCEPT PERMITS
06:57:30 RESIDENTIAL USES TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH COMMERCIAL AND/OR
06:57:34 OFFICE USES."
06:57:37 AFTER STAKEHOLDER MEETING WAS HELD ON MAY 25th, THE
06:57:42 STAFF REVISED THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE, BASED ON THAT NOW
06:57:46 AMENDED LANGUAGE.
06:57:48 ANOTHER STAKEHOLDER MEETING WAS HOSTED BY THE PLANNING
06:57:51 COMMISSION AND HELD ON AUGUST 3rd.
06:57:57 BUT NOW TO GO THROUGH THE PROPOSED CHANGES, FOR REFERENCE,
06:58:01 THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE IS PROVIDED WITHIN YOUR PACKETS.
06:58:06 THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IS THE REMOVAL OF UTILIZING
06:58:10 FLOOR AREA RATIO IN DETERMINING MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL DENSITY
06:58:15 FOR SINGLE USE STRUCTURES IN THE SOUTH TAMPA AND NEW TAMPA
06:58:20 PLANNING DISTRICT.
06:58:21 YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, WE HAVE THE CITY'S VISION MAP.
06:58:28 I KNOW WE SEE THIS A LOT.
06:58:30 WE SHOW IT A LOT DURING OUR ZONING HEARINGS.
06:58:32 THIS IS THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
06:58:35 IT'S BASICALLY SOUTH OF KENNEDY, AND THEN KIND OF GETS DOWN,
06:58:38 I BELIEVE THAT GOES SOUTH OF HYDE PARK.
06:58:44 SO THIS IS ALL SOUTH TAMPA.
06:58:46 AND THEN THE NEW TAMPA IS NORTH OF THE UNIVERSITY UP TO THE
06:58:51 PASCO LINE, ALL THE PROPERTY WITHIN THAT BRIGHT PINK.
06:58:56 BASED ON THE DISTRICT CHARACTERISTICS, THE COMPREHENSIVE
06:59:00 PLAN HAS THESE TWO DISTRICTS PROVIDING "UNLIMITED GROWTH
06:59:09 OPPORTUNITIES," ALSO CALLING THESE TWO AREAS "AREAS OF
06:59:13 STABILITY."
06:59:15 THE COMP PLAN REALLY ENVISIONS THE THREE CORE DISTRICTS,
06:59:19 CENTRAL, WESTSHORE AND UNIVERSITY, AS HAVING THE MOST GROWTH
06:59:23 OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:59:28 OF THE CHANGES WITHIN THE LAND USE DESCRIPTIONS INCLUDE THE
06:59:31 REMOVAL OF THE STATEMENT WHICH CALCULATION IS MORE
06:59:35 BENEFICIAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE ADDITION OF
06:59:37 "DETERMINATIVE SITE" TO CLARIFY AN EXISTING INCENTIVES."
06:59:46 THEN FINALLY THE WORD CONSISTENT IS REMOVED OUT OF THE LAND
06:59:50 USE DESCRIPTION AND REPLACED WITH COMPATIBLE.
06:59:53 THE WORD CONSISTENT IS NOT DEFINED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
06:59:57 PLAN.
06:59:57 THE DEFINITION OF COMPATIBLE IS DEFINED, AND IS AS FOLLOWS:
07:00:03 THE CHARACTERISTICS OF DIFFERENT USES OR ACTIVITIES OR
07:00:06 DESIGN WHICH ALLOW DENSITY LOCATED NEAR OR ADJACENT TO EACH
07:00:10 OTHER, ELEMENTS AFFECTING COMPATIBILITY ARE THE FOLLOWING,
07:00:16 PRICE HEIGHT, SCALE, MASS AND BULK OF STRUCTURE, PEDESTRIAN
07:00:20 OR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, CIRCULATION, ACCESS AND PARKING
07:00:23 IMPACT, LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING, NOISE, ODOR, AND
07:00:27 ARCHITECTURE.
07:00:28 COMPATIBILITY DOES NOT MEAN THE SAME AS, RATHER IT REFERS TO
07:00:32 THE SENSITIVITY OF DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS IN MAINTAINING THE
07:00:36 CHARACTER OF EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS.
07:00:41 YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED THE PROPOSED REQUEST
07:00:44 AND HAS IDENTIFIED SOME KEY ASPECTS OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE.
07:00:48 THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE CONTINUES TO PROMOTE A MIXTURE OF USES
07:00:52 WITHIN THE TWO PLANNING DISTRICTS.
07:00:53 THE MAJORITY OF PROPERTIES DESIGNATED ONE OF THE THREE MIXED
07:00:57 USE CATEGORIES ARE LOCATED ALONG OR WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY
07:01:01 TO MAJOR CORRIDORS.
07:01:02 VERTICAL MIXED USE STRUCTURES WITHIN THE TWO PLANNING
07:01:05 DISTRICTS WILL CONTINUE TO BE ELIGIBLE TO USE F.A.R. FOR
07:01:10 OVERALL RESIDENTIAL UNIT COUNT.
07:01:13 SECOND, SINCE UNDER THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE, SINGLE USE
07:01:17 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS WOULD NO LONGER BE ABLE TO UTILIZE
07:01:21 F.A.R. IN CALCULATING RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.
07:01:24 IT IS -- THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S FINDINGS THAT THERE WILL
07:01:27 BE AN OVERALL REDUCTION IN RESIDENTIAL UNITS OVER WHAT CAN
07:01:31 CURRENTLY BE CONSIDERED.
07:01:33 SO OVERALL, UNIT COUNT MAY BE REDUCED, THE SIZE AND COST OF
07:01:38 EACH UNIT MAY INCREASE.
07:01:40 AND THIRDLY, THE LANGUAGE ALSO CLARIFIES THAT DEVELOPMENTS
07:01:44 MUST BE COMPATIBLE WHICH IS DEFINED AGAIN IN THE
07:01:47 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:01:48 THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE IS FOUND TO PROVIDE GREATEST
07:01:51 PROTECTION FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL BY
07:01:54 POTENTIALLY REDUCING BUILDING, SCALE AND MASSING BASED ON
07:01:57 THAT COMPATIBLE -- ADDITION OF COMPATIBLE IN THE LAND USE
07:02:05 CATEGORY.
07:02:09 AS ALWAYS, WE SEND THIS OUT TO OUR PARTNER AGENCIES.
07:02:12 THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS FROM ANY OF THE REVIEWING AGENCIES.
07:02:17 IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT A LARGE NUMBER OF CITIZEN
07:02:20 COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION REGARDING
07:02:25 THIS REQUEST AND CAN BE ACCESSED TO THE LINK THAT'S INCLUDED
07:02:30 WITHIN YOUR PACKET.
07:02:30 IT WAS, I THINK, OVER 100.
07:02:33 THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
07:02:36 AND FOUND THAT THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE TO AMEND THE URBAN
07:02:39 MIXED USE 60, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 AND THE COMMUNITY
07:02:43 MIXED USE 35, FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, TO REMOVE THE OPTION
07:02:48 OR REFERRED TO AS THE F.A.R. OPTION FOR SINGLE USE
07:02:52 RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS IN THE SOUTH AND NEW TAMPA PLANNING
07:02:55 DISTRICT CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED POLICY GUIDANCE WITHIN
07:02:59 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:03:00 YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THREE MAIN AREAS OF
07:03:03 CONSISTENCY:
07:03:05 ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY PROMOTES THE PRESERVATION
07:03:08 OF NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.
07:03:10 POLICIES ALSO PROMOTE DESIGN SENSITIVITY.
07:03:13 WHEN DEVELOPING ADJACENT TO ESTABLISHED SINGLE-FAMILY
07:03:16 DETACHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
07:03:18 THE PROPOSAL CLARIFIES THE OVERALL INTENT OF THE DISTRICT BY
07:03:22 PROVIDING THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT MUST BE COMPATIBLE WITH
07:03:25 EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.
07:03:26 ALSO, OVERALL SCALE AND MASSING MAY BE REDUCED, WHICH IS ONE
07:03:30 ASPECT OF MANY REGARDING OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.
07:03:36 YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT
07:03:38 WITH THE CITY'S OVERALL GROWTH STRATEGY DESCRIBED AS THE
07:03:45 COMPACT CITY FORM.
07:03:46 THESE POLICIES ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO FOCUS HIGH DENSITY
07:03:49 HOUSING IN AREAS WITH ACCESS TO TRANSIT AND EMPLOYMENT.
07:03:53 THOUGH SOME TRANSIT IS PROVIDED IN AREAS OF SOUTH TAMPA,
07:03:56 THERE IS NO LOCAL TRANSIT SERVICE CURRENTLY PROVIDED ALONG
07:03:59 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD EXCEPT IN PORT TAMPA CITY, OR ALONG
07:04:03 GANDY BOULEVARD.
07:04:05 THESE TWO CORRIDORS PROVIDE FOR LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE
07:04:08 THREE LAND USE CATEGORIES FOUND WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA
07:04:11 PLANNING DISTRICT.
07:04:12 THERE IS ALSO NO LOCAL TRANSIT SERVICE WITHIN THE WHOLE OF
07:04:16 THE NEW TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
07:04:17 THE MAJORITY OF TRANSIT AND EMPLOYMENT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
07:04:20 ARE FOUND WITHIN THE CENTRAL, WESTSHORE AND UNIVERSITY
07:04:24 PLANNING DISTRICT.
07:04:25 BOTH LAND USE POLICIES 9.4.1 AND 9.6.2 ENCOURAGE HIGH
07:04:31 DENSITY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN AREAS
07:04:34 WITH TRANSIT AND EMPLOYMENT AVAILABILITY.
07:04:38 POLICIES ALSO ENCOURAGE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AROUND
07:04:41 RECOGNIZED URBAN VILLAGES OR BUSINESS CENTERS WHICH ARE ALL
07:04:45 LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA WESTSHORE AND UNIVERSITY
07:04:49 PLANNING DISTRICT.
07:04:50 BASED ON THESE FACTS, PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THAT
07:04:53 PROPOSED LANGUAGE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S GROWTH
07:04:56 MANAGEMENT STRATEGY.
07:04:58 SO BASED ON THAT, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING
07:05:01 COMMISSION TO YOU ALL THIS EVENING IS TO FIND THE PROPOSED
07:05:04 TEXT AMENDMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND
07:05:08 POLICIES THAT THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:05:12 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
07:05:13 I BELIEVE STEPHEN BENSON OF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ALSO ONLINE
07:05:19 AND WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
07:05:21 BOTH OF US WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
07:05:23 THANK YOU.
07:05:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. HEY?
07:05:30 >> THANK YOU, MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
07:05:47 STEPHEN BENSON WITH YOUR CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
07:05:49 I DO HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM.
07:05:52 THIS AMENDMENT WAS INITIATED BY TAMPA CITY COUNCIL EARLIER
07:05:54 THIS YEAR, RELATES TO A SPECIFIC PROVISION IN THE
07:05:57 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH WE REFER TO AS THE F.A.R. OPTION.
07:06:02 COUNCIL REQUESTED STAFF TO REVIEW THE PROVISION FOR
07:06:05 POTENTIAL MODIFICATION AND TO PROCESS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
07:06:08 AMENDMENT TO ENSURE THAT FURTHER USE OF THIS OPTION IS IN
07:06:12 LINE WITH ITS INTENT AS WELL AS THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND
07:06:14 POLICIES IN THE PLAN.
07:06:18 FIRST I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE TIMELINE AND THE PROCESS FOR
07:06:21 THIS AMENDMENT.
07:06:23 THE SECOND, WE'LL LOOK AT THE FINAL PROPOSED AMENDMENT
07:06:27 LANGUAGE AND THEN PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF THE POLICY
07:06:30 IMPLICATIONS AND THEN THE NEXT STEPS.
07:06:34 THIS AMENDMENT WAS INITIATED BY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 21-273 ON
07:06:38 APRIL 1st.
07:06:39 PLANNING COMMISSION HELD INFORMATIONAL MEETING ON MAY
07:06:42 25th FOR STAKEHOLDERS.
07:06:44 DURING THE MONTH OF JULY, STAFF WORKED TOGETHER TO REVISE
07:06:47 THE AMENDMENT LANGUAGE AND THEN HELD ANOTHER INFORMATIONAL
07:06:50 MEETING OWN AUGUST 3rd. PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THIS
07:06:53 AMENDMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN ON SEPTEMBER
07:06:56 14th.
07:06:58 THE TWO MEETINGS WERE HELD AS I MENTIONED IN MAY AND AUGUST
07:07:02 AND THOSE RECORDINGS ARE POSTED AND AVAILABLE AT THE
07:07:05 PLANNING COMMISSION WEBSITE, AND THE AMENDMENT WAS REFINED
07:07:08 BASED UPON THE FEEDBACK RECEIVED AT THESE TWO SESSIONS.
07:07:13 THE LANGUAGE PRESENTED ON YOUR SCREEN IS THE SECTION OF THE
07:07:16 COMP PLAN THAT WE REFERRED TO AS THE F.A.R. OPTION, ON THE
07:07:19 FAR LEFT, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AS YOU KNOW AFFECTS
07:07:23 DENSITY, DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND NONRESIDENTIAL
07:07:27 DEVELOPMENT IS REGULATED BY FLOOR AREA RATIO.
07:07:30 MIXED USE PROJECTS, HOWEVER, ARE REQUIRED TO MEET BOTH OF
07:07:33 THESE THRESHOLD, BUT TO HELP DIRECT -- INTO THE MIXED USE
07:07:37 CORRIDORS OF THE CITY.
07:07:38 THIS OPTION ALLOWS THE MIXED USE AREAS, TO ONLY USE F.A.R.
07:07:46 RATHER THAN THE MAXIMUM DENSITY TO DETERMINE HOW MANY MAY BE
07:07:51 PROVIDED.
07:07:52 THIS MEANS IT MAY PROVIDE MORE UNITS THAN NORMALLY
07:07:56 CONSIDERED ALLOWABLE WITHOUT THIS PROVISION.
07:07:58 THIS OPTION APPLIES TO THREE MIXED USE LAND USE CATEGORIES
07:08:01 YOU SEE AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN, MIXED USE 60, COMMUNITY
07:08:05 COMMERCIAL 35, AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
07:08:10 ALTHOUGH THE F.A.R. OPTION IS ONLY APPLICABLE TO MIXED USE
07:08:15 PLAN CATEGORIES, SINGLE USE PROJECTS ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED
07:08:18 TO USE THE OPTION
07:08:21 THE LANGUAGE PRESENTED ON APRIL 1st AND TRANSMITTED BY
07:08:24 COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THE DISTINCTION AND THIS OPTION PROJECTS
07:08:30 THAT WERE NOT SINGLE USE, AND THE REVISED LANGUAGE BASED
07:08:33 UPON THE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS.
07:08:37 STAFF COULD FURTHER LIMIT THIS TO THE NEW PLANNING DISTRICT
07:08:39 AS WELL AS THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THE
07:08:43 MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED BY MR. HEY PREVIOUSLY.
07:08:50 THE MAP ON THE SCREEN SHOWS THE DISTRIBUTION OF PARCELS
07:08:53 AFFECTED WITH ONE OF THE THREE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS
07:08:58 THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW.
07:08:59 THESE LANDS ARE ALLOWED TO USE THE F.A.R. OPTIONS TO
07:09:01 DETERMINE THEIR DENSITY FOR POTENTIAL PROJECTS.
07:09:06 YOU CAN SEE IN A LINEAR FASHION ALONG ADJACENT ARTERIAL
07:09:10 COLLECTOR STREET SYSTEM.
07:09:11 GENERALLY COMPRISING WHAT IS REFERRED TO IN THE
07:09:13 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COLLECTIVELY AS OUR MIXED USE CORRIDORS.
07:09:20 AS MENTIONED, THE COMP PLAN DIVIDES THE CITY INTO FIVE
07:09:24 PLANNING DISTRICT.
07:09:25 THE PLAN INCLUDES LANGUAGE THAT DESCRIBES THE SPECIFIC --
07:09:30 EACH OF THESE DISTRICTS AND TO GROW AND CHANGE IN THE
07:09:32 FUTURE.
07:09:32 THE WESTSHORE DISTRICT IS SHOWN IN PURPLE.
07:09:35 INCLUDES THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS DISTRICT, TAMPA
07:09:37 INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, TWO MAJOR SHOPPING MALLS, AND THE
07:09:40 DREW PARK COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
07:09:42 THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT IS ON THE MAP IN LIGHT
07:09:45 BLUE.
07:09:45 THE CENTRAL DISTRICT IS SHOWN IN GREEN, AND INCLUDES THE
07:09:49 SEVEN CRAs AS WELL AS ALL OF THE URBAN VILLAGES, THE
07:09:53 CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, AND PORT TAMPA BAY.
07:09:57 AND THE UNIVERSITY DISTRICT WHICH IS THE THIRD DISTRICT, IS
07:10:00 SHOWN IN ORANGE AND IT INCLUDES THE INNOVATION DISTRICT, USF
07:10:03 TAMPA CAMPUS, AND CONSTITUTES THE THIRD MAJOR EMPLOYMENT
07:10:07 CENTER IN THE CITY.
07:10:08 THE NEW TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT IN SHOWN IN THE COLOR AT THE
07:10:11 TOP.
07:10:15 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ESTABLISHES UNIQUE VISIONS FOR THE
07:10:18 NEW TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING
07:10:20 DISTRICT.
07:10:21 THOSE EXCERPTS ARE SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN.
07:10:23 AND BASED UPON LIMITED GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES IN THESE AREAS.
07:10:30 THE VISIONS FOR THE SOUTH TAMPA AND NEW PLANNING -- TAMPA
07:10:34 PLANNING DISTRICTS ARE CHARACTERIZED BY THREE MAIN
07:10:36 PRINCIPLES. FIRST IS MAINTAINING NEIGHBORHOOD STABILITY
07:10:40 AND SECOND IS FOSTERING COMPATIBLE INFILL AND THE THIRD IS
07:10:43 ACHIEVING AND MORE SUSTAINABLE MIXED USE.
07:10:49 IN THE RESEARCH THAT WE PERFORMED, YOU CAN SEE THE SLIDE
07:10:52 DISPLAY IT IS RESIDENTIAL GROWTH THAT HAS OCCURRED IN THE
07:10:55 CITY OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS.
07:10:57 THE MOST RECENT TEN YEARS OF GROWTH IS BROKEN INTO FIVE-YEAR
07:11:01 INCREMENTS.
07:11:02 2010 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE SHOWN IN GRAY.
07:11:05 AND THE GROWTH THAT OCCURRED FROM 2010 TO 2015, THAT
07:11:09 INCREASE IS SHOWN IN DARK BLUE.
07:11:11 AND THE GROWTH THAT OCCURRED FROM 2015 TO 2020 IS SHOWN IN
07:11:16 RED.
07:11:17 THE TWO DISTRICTS THAT HAVE SEEN THE HIGHEST RESIDENTIAL
07:11:19 GROWTH IN THAT PERIOD ARE THE NEW TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT
07:11:23 AND THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
07:11:25 THIS CHANGE IS NOT IN LINE WITH TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
07:11:28 ENVISIONED FOR GROWTH WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE -- THESE TWO
07:11:33 DISTRICTS.
07:11:34 LOOKING IT APPEARS THAT THE GREAT OF RESIDENTIAL GROWTH IS
07:11:38 DECREASING SINCE THE GROWTH FROM 2010 TO 2015 WERE
07:11:42 SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN GROWTH FROM 2015 TO 2020, SO THE RED
07:11:46 IS SMALLER THAN THE BLUE.
07:11:48 YOU SEE THE GROWTH IS ACTUALLY DECREASING, WHEREAS IN THE
07:11:51 SOUTH TAMPA DISTRICT THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.
07:11:53 THE RED, THE GROWTH IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, IS MORE THAN THE
07:11:55 GROWTH IN FIVE YEARS PRIOR.
07:12:03 SO AS SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN IS THE AREA SOUTH OF KENNEDY,
07:12:08 WEST OF HIMES, SOUTH OF SWANN AVENUE AND WEST OF HOWARD
07:12:12 AVENUE, COMPRISES THE INTERBAY PENINSULA.
07:12:16 AND THE NEW TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT IS DESCRIBED GENERALLY
07:12:19 AS AN AREA NORTH OF FLETCHER AND EAST MUCH 46th STREET.
07:12:24 IT INCLUDES TAMPA PALMS AS WELL AS HIDDEN RIVER DEVELOPMENT.
07:12:29 IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PORTION ADJACENT UNDEVELOPED USF
07:12:33 LANDS WHICH ARE PART OF THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT.
07:12:39 AND JUST A FINAL SUMMARY OF WHAT THE ACTUAL AMENDMENT DOES,
07:12:42 THE ABILITY TO USE F.A.R. OPTION TO DETERMINE DENSITY FOR
07:12:46 SINGLE USE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS WOULD NO LONGER
07:12:51 BE ALLOWED IN BOTH OF THESE CRITERIA.
07:12:55 THE FIRST IS CMU, CC AND UMU LAND USE CATEGORIES AND THEY
07:13:01 MUST BE LOCATED WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLAN DISTRICT AND NEW
07:13:04 TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
07:13:05 NO PARCELS WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT,
07:13:08 WESTSHORE PLANNING DISTRICT OR UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT
07:13:11 WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS AMENDMENT AND NO MIXED USE PROJECTS
07:13:14 ANYWHERE IN THE CITY WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS AMENDMENT.
07:13:20 THIS MAP DISPLAYS THE PARCELS IN THE SOUTH TAMPA WILL BE.
07:13:24 THEY ARE GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG PORTIONS OF DALE MABRY DALE
07:13:28 MABRY HIGHWAY, HENDERSON, WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, MANHATTAN
07:13:32 AVENUE, MacDILL AVENUE, BAY TO BAY.
07:13:38 IN THE NEW TAMPA DISTRICT, THE AREAS THAT ARE AFFECTED ARE
07:13:42 SHOWN IN RED.
07:13:44 THERE IS ONE IN THE APPLICABLE CATEGORIES IN THE NEW TAMPA
07:13:48 PLANNING DISTRICT GENERALLY AROUND I-75 AND BRUCE B. DOWNS
07:13:51 INTERCHANGE.
07:13:54 AS WAS MENTIONED, THERE ARE ALSO A COUPLE OF CHANGES THAT
07:13:57 REMAIN PROPOSED, CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE THAT WAS USE
07:14:03 DEFINED ALREADY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:14:07 AND THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO TRANSMIT THIS TO THE
07:14:12 DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR REVIEW, AND THEN COME
07:14:14 BACK TO YOU FOR A REVIEW AND ADOPTION.
07:14:17 AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
07:14:20 AND I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
07:14:22 THANK YOU.
07:14:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
07:14:27 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
07:14:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:14:29 I AM NOT SURE WHO TO DIRECT THIS TO.
07:14:32 MAYBE YOU, STEPHEN.
07:14:38 I HAVE HAD A BEEF FOR AT LEAST TWO-PLUS YEARS, AND DAVID IS
07:14:42 WELL FAMILIAR WITH IT.
07:14:43 THAT'S WHY I AM THROWING THIS AT YOU, STEPHEN.
07:14:47 ABOUT HOW WE DEFINE MIXED USE.
07:14:50 AND WHAT OUR THRESHOLD IS FOR MIXED USE.
07:14:54 I WAS HOPING THAT WHEN WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THIS, YOU
07:14:59 KNOW, SIX MONTH, EIGHT MONTH, TWELVE MONTH EXERCISE TO GET
07:15:04 TO THIS POINT IN REGARD TO THIS PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH IS A
07:15:07 POSITIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, BUT IT STILL HAS A GAPING LOOPHOLE
07:15:12 THAT IN MY OPINION -- AND I WILL ANSWER MY OWN QUESTION --
07:15:16 IN MY OPINION WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE A DEFINITION OF WHAT IS
07:15:19 MIXED USE.
07:15:20 WE THINK DON'T HAVE A THRESHOLD.
07:15:22 THE EXAMPLE, GENTLEMEN, AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, WHEN WE ALL
07:15:25 FIRST STARTED THIS GO AROUND IN 2019, DOWN AT THE CORNER OF
07:15:30 MacDILL AND GANDY, AND THEY HAD A PROJECT, AND THEY CALL
07:15:35 IT MIXED USE, BUT IT HAD LIKE 1% OF THE WHOLE PROJECT WAS
07:15:40 COMMERCIAL, AND THE OTHER 99% WAS RESIDENTIAL.
07:15:45 AND, YET, THEY WERE ALLOWED TO CALL IT MIXED USE AND THEY
07:15:49 WERE ALLOWED TO USE THE BONUS CRITERIA ASSOCIATED WITH MIXED
07:15:53 USE.
07:15:54 IS THAT GAPING HOLE STILL THERE?
07:15:57 AND WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT IT?
07:16:00 STEPHEN BENSON.
07:16:02 >> I DO BELIEVE THAT PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS BEEN
07:16:05 WORKING ON SOME RESEARCH THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING AS WE
07:16:12 PRESENT IT TO YOU.
07:16:13 MY UNDERSTANDING THUS FAR IS THAT WE HAVE YET TO DISCOVER A
07:16:18 SIMPLE SOLUTION TO THAT ISSUE TO BE IDENTIFIED.
07:16:23 WE DO ACKNOWLEDGE IT AND WE DO BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING THAT
07:16:26 CAN BE ADDRESSED AS WE LOOK TO UPDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
07:16:29 IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEXT YEAR.
07:16:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I THINK WE ARE JUST DRAGGING OUR
07:16:35 FEET ON THIS.
07:16:36 NOT NECESSARILY INTENTIONALLY.
07:16:40 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S AN EVIL LURKING WITHIN THE CITY
07:16:45 AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
07:16:46 BUT I THINK WE ARE DRAGGING OUR FEET ON IT.
07:16:49 I THINK IT'S REALLY DANGEROUS TO DRAG OUR FEET ON IT BECAUSE
07:16:52 WE GO TO ALL THE EFFORT OF DOING THIS AND SAYING, YOU KNOW,
07:16:57 NO MORE IN THESE MIXED USE CATEGORIES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA,
07:17:02 FROM MONOLITHIC SINGLE-USE M MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS AND ALL
07:17:07 THEY HAVE TO DO IS ADD 1% OR LESS, TEN SQUARE FEET OF
07:17:12 COMMERCIAL AND THEY CAN CALL IT MIXED USE, AND WE CAN'T STOP
07:17:16 THEM.
07:17:20 SO WHILE WE PERFECT THIS, DAVID HEY, I WILL THROW IT TO YOU
07:17:24 NOW, WHILE WE PERFECT, COME UP WITH THE PERFECT ANSWER, YOU
07:17:29 CAN HAVE PROJECT AFTER PROJECT AFTER PROJECT SLIP THROUGH
07:17:33 THE CRACKS.
07:17:34 AM I CRAZY HERE, OR JUST SLAP ME IF I AM.
07:17:37 >> WE HEAR YOU ABOUT THE MIXED USE.
07:17:51 WE ARE CONDUCTING RESEARCH.
07:17:54 BEST PRACTICE, ON WHAT THE BEST WAY, HOW TO HANDLE THAT,
07:18:00 WHETHER IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PUT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
07:18:04 IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE MORE IN THE LAND
07:18:06 DEVELOPMENT CODE.
07:18:09 I WILL ALSO REMAINED YOU, YES, THEY ARE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY,
07:18:13 BUT REMEMBER, IF THEY HAVE TEN SQUARE FEET, IT IS WITHIN THE
07:18:19 PURVIEW OF COUNCIL THAT THAT WILL BE A DECISION OF COUNCIL
07:18:25 WHETHER THAT MIXED USE MEETS THE INTENT OF THE POLICY.
07:18:31 I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANY THAT -- I WILL SAY THERE WERE SOME
07:18:36 THAT HAD SOME SMALLER AREAS OF COMMERCIAL USES, AND --
07:18:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AS I RECALL THAT ONE AT MacDILL AND
07:18:45 GANDY WAS LIKE LESS THAN A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
07:18:49 AND IT REALLY AMOUNTED TO LIKE 1% OF THE WHOLE PROJECT.
07:18:54 IT WAS THE CLASSIC LOOPHOLE, CLASSIC WHERE THE DEVELOPER WAS
07:19:03 TRYING TO CRAWL THROUGH THAT LOOPHOLE.
07:19:05 AND HERE IS THE PROBLEM WITH SAYING WHAT YOU ARE SAYING,
07:19:07 DAVID.
07:19:08 YOU ARE SAYING, COUNCIL CAN ALWAYS DENY IT, OKAY.
07:19:12 BUT GUESS WHAT, LEGAL TURNS AROUND, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,
07:19:16 MRS. JOHNSON-VELEZ WATCHING THIS, BUT LEGAL TURNS AROUND AND
07:19:19 SAYS, WELL, THERE'S NOT REALLY LANGUAGE THERE THAT DEFINES
07:19:22 WHAT MIXED USE IS, SO YOU BETTER FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DENY
07:19:25 IT ON.
07:19:26 OKAY.
07:19:26 BECAUSE IF WE ARE NOT DEFINING IT, THEN WHY SHOULDN'T THEY
07:19:30 CALL THROUGH THAT LOOPHOLE?
07:19:32 ANYWAY, I'M OFF MY SOAPBOX.
07:19:33 I THINK WE NEED TO SPEED IT UP AND WE NEED TO CLOSE THAT
07:19:37 LOOPHOLE.
07:19:38 OTHERWISE, WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE TONIGHT IS A WONDERFUL
07:19:41 EXERCISE, BUT IT'S MEANINGLESS FOR ANY HALF INTELLIGENT
07:19:46 DEVELOPER OUT THERE, AND THERE ARE AT LEAST HALF
07:19:50 INTELLIGENT.
07:19:50 >> JUST A POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, WE ARE CONTINUING TO
07:19:58 DO AND SHOULD PRESENT TO CITY STAFF SHORTLY, YOU KNOW, WE
07:20:02 REALLY NEED TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE OUR MIXED USE -- THERE ARE
07:20:06 MIXED USE DESIGNATIONS THAT ARE NOT ON MAIN ROADS.
07:20:12 THERE IS MIXED USE ON DEAD-END ROADS.
07:20:14 AND IS IT APPROPRIATE, AND WHAT IS THE BEST MECHANISM TO
07:20:18 SEPARATE THOSE AREAS THAT MAY NOT BE CONDUCIVE FOR ACTUAL
07:20:24 VERTICAL MIXED USE ON EACH SITE THAT LOOKS MORE AT WHAT IS
07:20:31 THE MIXTURE OF MIXED USE THROUGHOUT A CORRIDOR, OR AN AREA?
07:20:37 THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND.
07:20:39 >> WELL, THAT WORRIES ME A LITTLE BIT, TOO, BECAUSE YOU ARE
07:20:44 GOING TO SAY, OH, THIS GUY DOESN'T HAVE TO DO IT BECAUSE WE
07:20:46 ARE GOING TO RELY ON THE NEXT GUY TO DO IT DOWN THE STREET.
07:20:49 >>DAVID HEY: WELL, IT IS A PLANNING MECHANISM, REALLY,
07:20:59 THAT -- I DON'T THINK WE WILL GET TO A POINT WHERE EVERY
07:21:03 BUILDING PROPOSED IN A MIXED USE CATEGORY TO BE REQUIRED TO
07:21:08 HAVE A MIXTURE OF USES.
07:21:11 THE LAND USE CATEGORIES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DESCRIBED AS WE
07:21:15 LOOKED AT AN AREA OF USES, THAT YOU CAN HAVE RESIDENTIAL
07:21:19 NEXT TO COMMERCIAL, THAT IT WON'T JUST BE A SOLELY
07:21:24 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT YOU CAN HAVE OPTIONS.
07:21:27 SOME OF THAT, PREVIOUS COUNCILS, PREVIOUS PLANNING
07:21:30 COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS, WERE MORE MARKET DRIVEN, AND AS
07:21:36 ALWAYS, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO GO BACK AND RELOOK AT THINGS,
07:21:39 AND SEE WHAT TOOLS IN THE TOOL BOX HAVE WORKED PREVIOUSLY,
07:21:45 ARE STILL WORKING, AND WE THINK WE'LL HAVE SOME
07:21:49 RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO YOU SHORTLY.
07:21:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
07:21:53 WELL, WE KNOW ONE DAY, AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE, TOO, SO I
07:21:57 WON'T BELABOR IT BUT AT THE END OF THE NIGHT I AM GOING TO
07:21:59 MAKE A MOTION TO LIGHT A LITTLE FIRE UNDER EVERYBODY ON THIS
07:22:03 ISSUE AND GET SOMETHING DONE.
07:22:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU KNOW, TIMES CHANGE AND THINGS ARE
07:22:13 DIFFERENT.
07:22:14 I REMEMBER NOT TOO MANY YEARS AGO THANKSGIVING, DECEMBER
07:22:17 26th, WAS THE CHRISTMAS SEASON, AND NOW, I SEE SOME ADS
07:22:27 ON TV AND EVERYTHING ELSE, GO GET YOUR CHRISTMAS TOYS TODAY
07:22:30 BECAUSE YOU WON'T HAVE ANY FOR CHRISTMAS, THE SHIPPING
07:22:33 PROBLEM, THIS PROBLEM.
07:22:35 LOOK AT THE CARS.
07:22:36 YOU CAN'T FIND A CHIP THAT IS MADE IN AMERICA AND THAT'S WHY
07:22:42 YOU CAN'T BUY CARS.
07:22:44 AND LOOK AT PUBLIX, WINN-DIXIE, WALMART.
07:22:52 YET ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE DOCTOR TELLS YOU GO WALK AT THE
07:22:56 MALL AND THE MALL TELLS YOU -- THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.
07:23:01 YOU LOOK -- I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE STILL ALIVE.
07:23:09 AND THAT'S HOW IT IS.
07:23:12 YOU GO TO A BALLGAME, I BOUGHT A COUPLE TICKETS THE OTHER
07:23:17 DAY, FOUR TICKETS, AND THEY CHARGE ME SO MUCH, AND THEY
07:23:18 CHARGE ME $28 CONVENIENCE FEE.
07:23:20 [ LAUGHTER ]
07:23:31 AND I AM NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU, BUT I HATE TO BE A
07:23:36 NAYSAYER, THE LAST COUPLE OF SENTENCES YOU SAID THE INDUSTRY
07:23:39 IS CHANGING.
07:23:40 IT'S CHANGING BECAUSE WHAT WE GREW UP WITH, EVEN DOWNTOWN,
07:23:45 WHEN YOU SAID -- I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR AN EXCURSION, WAY OUT
07:23:51 THERE.
07:23:57 GOING TO TAMPA THEATER.
07:24:00 SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED.
07:24:02 AND THE WORLD IS CHANGING.
07:24:04 AND WHETHER THEY HAVE MIXED USE OR NOT, YOU CAN PUT IT IN.
07:24:09 IF IT DOESN'T WORK SIX MONTHS LATER THEY CHANGE IT TO
07:24:12 WHATEVER THEY WANT.
07:24:13 AND I AM NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU, SIR.
07:24:15 I AM JUST SAYING THAT THE WORLD IS CHANGING SO QUICKLY.
07:24:20 IF YOU HAVE A SICKNESS, YOU GO TO A DOCTOR.
07:24:26 THAT'S HOW IT IS.
07:24:27 AND IT'S GETTING WORSE.
07:24:28 AND I SAID IT BEFORE.
07:24:30 YBOR CITY DOWNTOWN WAS THE MAIN SHOPPING CENTER.
07:24:32 ALL OF A SUDDEN NORTH GATE AND BRITTON PLAZA OPENED UP,
07:24:37 DOWNTOWN AND YBOR CITY, THEN THE MALLS CAME IN AND THEY
07:24:41 CLOSED DOWN.
07:24:42 NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.
07:24:44 THE MALLS ARE NO LONGER LIKE THEY USED TO BE.
07:24:47 THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE AND THEY ARE ALL CHANGING TO LIKE
07:24:50 MIDTOWN.
07:24:52 YOU LIVE, YOU PLAY, EVERYTHING IN THAT AREA.
07:24:55 SO I AM NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU.
07:24:56 BUT TIMES ARE CHANGING, AND IT'S A REALISTIC THING.
07:25:01 THAT'S ALL.
07:25:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.
07:25:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
07:25:07 I AM IN THE MIDDLE HERE AGREEING WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND
07:25:10 THEN AGREEING WITH COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
07:25:12 I WAS JUST PERUSING THROUGH AN E-MAIL THAT WAS SENT TO THE
07:25:18 CRA BOARD ABOUT A STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN YBOR CITY.
07:25:21 AND ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE THINGS THEY WANTED WAS RETAIL.
07:25:27 DAVID AND -- EXCUSE ME, MR. HEY AND MR. BENSON, THERE'S GOT
07:25:32 TO BE A WAY THAT IT'S NOT THE BURDEN OF THE CITY TO PROVE
07:25:38 THAT WE NEED THIS RETAIL SPACE OR THAT WE WANT THIS RETAIL
07:25:42 SPACE.
07:25:42 IN MY OPINION, THERE SHOULD BE A PERCENTAGE SET UP, AND THEN
07:25:46 HAVE THE BURDEN PUT ON THE DEVELOPER OR THE PETITIONER TO
07:25:51 SAY, OKAY, WE DON'T NEED THAT NOW, WE DON'T NEED THAT MUCH
07:25:54 NOW.
07:25:56 AND BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE ALL SEEING THE TRENDS THAT ARE
07:26:00 HAPPENING NOW.
07:26:00 PEOPLE WANT TO BE ABLE TO WALK OUTSIDE OF THEIR CONDOMINIUM
07:26:04 OR THEIR HOME AND WALK FOUR OR FIVE BLOCKS AND GO TO A
07:26:08 LITTLE RETAIL STORE.
07:26:10 WHETHER IT BE HAIR SALON, SHOE STORE, LAUNDROMAT DOWNTOWN
07:26:15 DOWN IN YBOR CITY, THEY WANT A LAUNDROMAT DOWN THERE.
07:26:18 SO I HEAR WHAT BOTH THESE COUNCILMEN ARE SAYING BUT AGAIN
07:26:23 THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF PERCENTAGE IN A MIXED USE THAT
07:26:26 THE PETITIONER HAS TO PROVE.
07:26:29 OKAY, WE DON'T NEED THAT HERE ON THIS DEAD-END ROAD.
07:26:34 OR SAY YES.
07:26:36 THAT'S MY POINT, COUNCILMAN.
07:26:40 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
07:26:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I LOVE THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE CHARLIE,
07:26:51 YOU HAVE A GOOD POINT, TIMES ARE CHANGING AND THE MARKET
07:26:54 CHANGES.
07:26:54 I WAS AROUND WHEN -- I REMEMBER RIDING MY STINGRAY.
07:27:01 BUT, JOE, YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT, TOO, AND MAYBE THAT IS
07:27:05 THE SOLUTION.
07:27:06 MAYBE WE CREATE A STANDARD WHICH IS THE PRESUMPTION, IT'S
07:27:10 THE PRESUMPTIVE STANDARD, BUT THEN THE DEVELOPER HAS THE
07:27:15 ABILITY TO REBUT IT AND GET A WAIVER FROM THAT STANDARD,
07:27:18 JUST LIKE WE DO WITH ALL OF OUR STANDARDS.
07:27:20 AND I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE HIT ON SOMETHING.
07:27:23 BUT I THINK THE STANDARD LISTS IS RISKY.
07:27:28 AND HERE IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
07:27:30 I AM NOT SAYING -- WE LIVE IN A CAPITALIST SOCIETY.
07:27:35 DEVELOPERS HAVE A RIGHT, YOU KNOW, TO BUILD -- IF THEY WANT
07:27:40 TO BUILD RESIDENTIAL AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT ZONING FOR IT,
07:27:43 ET CETERA, THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD RESIDENTIAL.
07:27:45 AND I AM NOT SAYING WE ARE MANDATING THAT MIXED USE, DAVID.
07:27:50 BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT IN THIS CASE, WE ARE NOT
07:27:57 MANDATING, WE ARE GIVING THEM THIS F.A.R. OPTION, WHICH IS A
07:28:02 HUGE BONUS POTENTIAL OVER AND ABOVE WHAT THEY CAN FORM
07:28:06 NORMALLY BUILD.
07:28:07 THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
07:28:08 IT'S REALLY A BIG BONUS OPPORTUNITY FOR MIXED USE.
07:28:13 OKAY.
07:28:14 AND THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED.
07:28:15 I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME THEY TOLD ME WHAT A MIXED USE
07:28:21 PROJECT WAS ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO, AND IT WAS EXCITING.
07:28:24 AND EVERYBODY WAS ALL ABOUT IT.
07:28:29 BUT YOU SHOULD, TO ME, YOU SHOULD ONLY GET TO USE THAT BONUS
07:28:33 INTENSITY, THAT BIG DENSITY IF YOU HAVE A MIXED USE AND IF
07:28:41 YOU DON'T THEN IT FALLS BACK TO WHEREVER IT CAME FROM.
07:28:43 AND, JOE, I REALLY, REALLY LIKE THAT IDEA, IS IF 20% IS THE
07:28:50 THRESHOLD.
07:28:50 IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ETCHED IN STONE BUT AT LEAST THAT'S A
07:28:53 STARTING POINT, AND THE DEVELOPER CAN SAY, HEY, I AM DOWN
07:28:56 THAT DEAD-END ROAD AND 20% DOESN'T WORK FOR ME BUT AT LEAST
07:29:01 WE HAVE A NUMBER TO START IT.
07:29:03 ALL RIGHT.
07:29:03 THAT'S GREAT DISCUSSION FOR TONIGHT.
07:29:05 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
07:29:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR.
07:29:08 ALL RIGHT.
07:29:08 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU.
07:29:14 I APPRECIATE ALL THIS DISCUSSION.
07:29:16 YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE NEW TAMPA.
07:29:21 I KNOW IT WAS TALKED ABOUT SOME TIME AGO AS AN AREA WITH
07:29:25 SUCH RAPID GROWTH.
07:29:27 THAT'S WHAT THIS HAS.
07:29:29 A LOT OF CORRELATION TO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH
07:29:31 REGARDS TO PUBLIC SAFETY, FIRE, IN TAMPA, AND THE WAY YOU
07:29:38 SEE POPULATION IN NEW TAMPA, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE ARE
07:29:48 SEEING TONIGHT.
07:29:49 I LIKE TO TELL THE STORY, I WAS IN THE 8th GRADE, AND IN
07:29:55 1990, I WAS GOING TO A FRIEND'S BIRTHDAY PARTY, A GUY I AM
07:29:58 STILL FRIENDS WITH, AND ABOUT FIVE MINUTES WRITE LIVE, AND I
07:30:05 REMEMBER GOING DOWN BRUCE B. DOWNS WITH MY MOM, THE BASEBALL
07:30:10 PARK, IF I RECALL, AND THERE WAS NOTHING OUT THERE.
07:30:13 AND THERE'S ABOUT 8 OR 9,000 ARE PEOPLE LIVING IN NEW TAMPA
07:30:16 AT THE TIME, AND TODAY IT'S ABOUT 50, 60,000 PEOPLE LIVE OUT
07:30:22 THERE.
07:30:22 WE HAD A POPULATION GROWTH.
07:30:25 SO NEW TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA, THERE IS A POPULATION BOOM, AND A
07:30:36 LOT OF ACCOMMODATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE FOR THAT.
07:30:41 I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
07:30:43 THANK YOU, SIR.
07:30:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:30:45 ALL RIGHT.
07:30:46 ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
07:30:48 ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
07:30:52 ALL RIGHT.
07:30:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR BUT I BELIEVE
07:30:56 THERE ARE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
07:30:56 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE THREE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
07:31:03 SARAH ANN BENNETT.
07:31:05 STEPHANIE POYNOR.
07:31:07 AND DAVID MECHANIK.
07:31:08 THEY ARE ALL ONLINE.
07:31:10 THEY NEED TO TURN ON THEIR CAMERAS AND UNMUTE THEMSELVES.
07:31:13 >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT, A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF
07:31:34 SOUTH TAMPA.
07:31:35 THIS IS A VERY SMALL CHANGE THAT APPLIES ONLY TO SOUTH TAMPA
07:31:39 AND NEW TAMPA.
07:31:40 AS DAVID SAID, BECAUSE THE COMP PLAN STATES THESE DISTRICTS
07:31:43 ARE UNSUITED TO URBANIZATION AND INCREASED DENSITY.
07:31:48 THEY SHOULD BE STABLE AND HAVE THE LOWEST AMOUNT OF GROWTH
07:31:50 IN THE CITY.
07:31:51 SOME DEVELOPERS ARE GROSSLY EXAGGERATING THE EFFECTS OF THIS
07:31:55 LITTLE CHANGE.
07:31:56 DEVELOPERS CAN STILL BUILD BETWEEN 30 AND 50 UNITS PER ACRE
07:32:00 IN SOUTH TAMPA.
07:32:01 IT'S BEEN BILLED WITH THE ZONING.
07:32:04 THEY CAN STILL USE F.A.R. IN SOUTH TAMPA IF THEY INCLUDE
07:32:07 SOME MIXED USE.
07:32:08 THEY CAN STILL GET INCREASED DENSITY IN SOUTH TAMPA IF THEY
07:32:12 PAY FOR BONUS DENSITY.
07:32:14 THEY CAN STILL USE F.A.R. TO ASSEMBLE USE IN THE THREE
07:32:18 DISTRICTS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE.
07:32:21 RANDY GOERS SAYS THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM FOR SINGLE USE, AN
07:32:24 F.A.R. AND THE OTHER THREE PLANNING DISTRICTS, AND THE CITY
07:32:27 WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO BUILD IT THERE.
07:32:30 ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS SAID IT BEST.
07:32:33 DEVELOPERS WANT TO BUILD IN SOUTH TAMPA BECAUSE THEY CAN
07:32:36 CHARGE HIGHER RENT AND MAKE MORE MONEY THERE.
07:32:40 SOME DEVELOPERS HAVE THE AUDACITY TO SAY WE ARE TRYING TO
07:32:44 DIRECT GROWTH AWAY FROM SOG BECAUSE IT IS A RICH WHITE
07:32:47 COMMUNITY AND THEY DON'T WANT PAR RENTERS IN THEIR
07:32:51 NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:32:52 THAT STATEMENT IS VERY IRONIC SINCE IT IS THEIR LUXURY
07:32:56 HOUSING THAT WILL MAKE SOG RICHER AND WHITER THAN IT IS NOW.
07:33:00 IN REALITY SOG IS ONE OF THE MOST DIVERSE AREAS IN TAMPA, MY
07:33:03 ALMA MATER IS MONDAY ROPE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND ROBINSON HIGH
07:33:06 SCHOOL WHERE NATURALLY INTEGRATED BEFORE FORCED BUSING
07:33:10 BECAUSE PORT TAMPA HAD A SIGNIFICANT DIVERSE COMMUNITY MADE
07:33:13 UP OF FAMILIES WHO OWNED THEIR OWN HOMES.
07:33:15 CURRENTLY, SOG IS A VERY DIVERSE COMMUNITY AND THEY LIKE IT
07:33:19 THAT WAY.
07:33:19 THEY WANT IT TO STAY THAT WAY.
07:33:22 IN 2019, 33616 WAS 54% WHITE, 20% LATINO AND 15% BLACK.
07:33:31 FOR 70 YEARS SOG HAS BEEN A PLACE WHERE FAMILIES WITH VERY
07:33:35 MODEST INCOME COULD REALIZE THE DREAM OF HOME OWNERSHIP.
07:33:40 I GREW UP IN HOUSES THAT AIRMEN COULD AFFORD, AND THEY WERE
07:33:47 AFFORDABLE.
07:33:47 THE REAL ATHLETE THREAT TO THE DIVERSITY OF THE COMMUNITY IS
07:33:50 THE LUXURY HOUSING THAT HAS INVITED THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD
07:33:54 NEIGHBORHOODS AND PUT PROPERTIES OUT OF REACH FOR AVERAGE
07:33:57 WORKING MEN AND WOMEN.
07:33:59 WORKING PEOPLE WITH MODEST INCOMES CAN BUY A HOUSE AND RAISE
07:34:03 A FAMILY IS THE GENTRY FIX THAT DEVELOPERS ARE FIGHTING FOR.
07:34:07 THE CITY STAFF SOME WHO WOULD THE LANGUAGE THEY FELT WAS
07:34:10 NEVER MEANT FOR RESIDENTIAL.
07:34:11 IN REALITY THE --
07:34:13 [BELL SOUNDS]
07:34:14 -- THE FIRST STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
07:34:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:34:18 ALL RIGHT.
07:34:18 THANK YOU.
07:34:20 ALL RIGHT.
07:34:22 WHO DO WE HAVE NEXT?
07:34:25 >> I BELIEVE SHE'S HAVING AN ISSUE WITH HER CAMERA. AGAIN,
07:34:29 THIS IS A NON-QUASI ITEM.
07:34:33 STEPHANIE, IF YOU WILL UNMUTE YOURSELF YOU HAVE THREE
07:34:36 MINUTES TO SPEAK.
07:34:37 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
07:34:38 SORRY ABOUT THAT WITH THE CAMERA.
07:34:41 FLOOR AREA RATIO IS NOT BEEN USED IN ALL THE CASES THAT WE
07:34:45 HAVE BEEN BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND SOG.
07:34:48 THERE ARE MORE WORK AROUNDS THAN I CAN COUNT WITH THE
07:34:51 REMOVAL OF THIS CITY CODE.
07:34:53 DEVELOPERS CAN BUY BONUS DENSITY, DEVELOPERS CAN BUILD MIXED
07:34:58 USE AND STILL USE THE F.A.R., DEVELOPERS CAN BUILD WHAT THEY
07:35:03 ARE ZONED FOR.
07:35:04 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT NEW TAMPA.
07:35:08 THAT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.
07:35:10 I HAVE FRIENDS FOR THAT.
07:35:12 BUT AS YOU KNOW, ABOUT SOG, AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS NOT
07:35:18 ENOUGH ROOM ON THIS PENINSULA, AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM
07:35:26 MAINLY IN SOG.
07:35:27 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHERE IS THERE ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT THIS
07:35:30 KIND OF DENSITY, IT'S SOG.
07:35:32 IT'S NOT NORTH OF GANDY.
07:35:37 WE HAVE BEEN OVERWHELMED BY THE NUMBER OF MULTI-FAMILIES
07:35:41 THAT RECEIVED A NUMBER OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN OUR AREA.
07:35:43 I KNOW THAT WE ARE -- TREE DESERT.
07:35:47 I KNOW THAT NONE, NONE, NONE FOR A THIRD TIME, NOT EVEN ONE
07:35:51 OF THE HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED TO OUR COMMUNITY IN THE
07:35:55 LAST FIVE YEARS HAVE BEEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO AFFORDABLE.
07:35:59 SO SCRATCH THAT DEVELOPER ARGUMENT.
07:36:06 THEY ALSO NEED TO BUILD SOME 3-BEDROOM UNITS.
07:36:10 WE ARE UP TO THE TOP WITH ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS, STUDIOS.
07:36:18 NOBODY IS BUILDING ANYTHING FOR FAMILIES SO LET'S CALL IT
07:36:21 WHAT IT IS.
07:36:22 IT IS A BUNCH OF WHINEY PEOPLE WHO ARE USED TO GETTING WHAT
07:36:26 THEY WANT BEING DENIED WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.
07:36:31 WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE ONE AND TWO-BEDROOM APARTMENTS.
07:36:35 WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING ELSE DEEMED LUXURY.
07:36:39 WE NEED FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE BEING
07:36:43 PUSHED OUT OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY HAVE GROWN UP SINCE
07:36:48 CHILDHOOD.
07:36:49 WE NEED A GROCERY STORE.
07:36:51 WE NEED A GAS STATION.
07:36:52 WE NEED JOBS.
07:36:54 WE NEED COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL.
07:36:57 THIS LAND USE CODE HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 1978, 43 YEARS.
07:37:04 I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:37:08 IT'S TIME FOR US TO GET OUT OF THE DARK AIRLINES AND MOVE
07:37:11 FORWARD.
07:37:12 THANK YOU.
07:37:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STEPHANIE, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
07:37:18 >> YES, SIR.
07:37:24 YES, SIR.
07:37:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAD A CONVERSATION LAST WEEK.
07:37:28 I STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION.
07:37:30 I WAS LOOKING AT WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
07:37:35 THEY HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THEY PUT A STOP TO IT WHERE
07:37:38 IF YOU WANT TO BUILD, YOU HAVE TO BUILD --
07:37:43 >> OH.
07:37:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF YOU WANT TO BUILD APARTMENTS, YOU HAVE
07:37:47 TO MAKE SURE THAT APARTMENT HAS ENOUGH HOUSING FOR THAT
07:37:50 COMMUNITY.
07:37:50 >> THEY ARE DOING SOME SIGNIFICANT REZONING IN SOME OTHER
07:37:54 CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, YES, SIR.
07:37:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M LOOKING AT THAT.
07:38:01 >> IF YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS THAT, I WILL BE HAPPY TO.
07:38:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SEND ME WHAT YOU HAVE, AND AS MR. MIRANDA
07:38:08 SAID, TIMES ARE CHANGING, AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING
07:38:12 THAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING TO COME UP WITH THE TIMES.
07:38:14 SO PLEASE SEND ME THAT INFORMATION AS SOON AS YOU CAN.
07:38:17 THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
07:38:17 >> THANK YOU.
07:38:18 >>THE CLERK: THE LAST SPEAKER IS DAVID MECHANIK.
07:38:26 HOWEVER, HE HAS NOT RESPONDED.
07:38:30 I'M ASSUMING HE NO LONGER WANTS TO SPEAK, AND THAT ENDS THE
07:38:35 PUBLIC PORTION.
07:38:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY, MOVE BY MR. CITRO, SECOND BY MR.
07:38:40 MANISCALCO.
07:38:40 ALL IN FAVOR?
07:38:44 ANY OPPOSED?
07:38:44 ALL RIGHT.
07:38:47 MOVE TO TRANSMIT ITEM 14.
07:38:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU'RE TORTURING ME.
07:38:52 IN REGARDS TO THE FILE TA/CPA 21-11, TRANSMITTAL HEARING ON
07:38:57 A PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT ESTABLISHING A GEOGRAPHIC AREA --
07:39:01 YOU CAN JUST MOVE TO TRANSMIT.
07:39:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE TO TRANSMIT.
07:39:04 >> SECOND.
07:39:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
07:39:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:39:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:39:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:39:12 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:39:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:39:15 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:39:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:39:18 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:39:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
07:39:21 MR. SHELBY, ANYTHING, SIR?
07:39:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOTHING FROM ME, THANK YOU, SIR.
07:39:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA?
07:39:30 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING.
07:39:31 THANK YOU, SIR.
07:39:32 IF I MAY SAY SO, GOOD MEETING.
07:39:34 A LOT OF GOOD STUFF THERE.
07:39:35 YOU RAN A GOOD MEETING.
07:39:36 THANK YOU, SIR.
07:39:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
07:39:38 MR. MANISCALCO.
07:39:40 MR. CARLSON.
07:39:41 >>BILL CARLSON: NO, SIR.
07:39:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOT THIS EVENING.
07:39:44 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
07:39:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER?
07:39:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
07:39:49 DAVID HEY, DID YOU LEAVE ALREADY?
07:39:51 OH, THERE YOU ARE.
07:39:53 SO I WOULD LIKE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF AND CITY STAFF AND
07:39:59 CITY LEGAL TO COME BACK TO US BY THE FIRST MEETING IN
07:40:07 DECEMBER, MR. SHELBY, 2nd OR 4th?
07:40:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SECOND, SIR.
07:40:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DURING STAFF REPORTS WITH AN UPDATE ON
07:40:19 THIS ISSUE OF WHAT IF ANY THRESHOLD SHOULD BE USED FOR MIXED
07:40:23 USE DEVELOPMENT.
07:40:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
07:40:28 SECOND BY MR. CARLSON.
07:40:30 ALL IN FAVOR?
07:40:32 ALL IN FAVOR?
07:40:33 ANY OPPOSED?
07:40:34 MOTION CARRIED.
07:40:36 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
07:40:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, SIR.
07:40:38 THANK YOU.
07:40:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
07:40:41 GENTLEMEN, AGAIN, LONG DAY.
07:40:45 INSTRUCTING MR. SHELBY TO INTO OTHER OPTIONS FOR US FOR
07:40:49 THESE LONG AGENDA ITEMS WE ARE FACING, AND ALSO WANT TO GIVE
07:40:53 A SHOUTOUT TO THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, THERE WERE FIVE
07:40:58 INDICTMENTS.
07:40:59 I SPOKE TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE, HE'S OUT OF TOWN ON A
07:41:03 CONFERENCE BUT APPARENTLY THERE MAY BE SOME MORE INDICTMENTS
07:41:06 COMING AS WELL.
07:41:07 SO I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT JUSTICE FOR THE LITTLE GIRL AT
07:41:10 THIS POINT, GET SOME CONVICTIONS, BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS TAPE
07:41:16 OF VIOLENCE WHERE SHE COULDN'T LIVE HER LIFE.
07:41:22 BUT MR. MANISCALCO.
07:41:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN, DID YOU AND YOUR BROTHER
07:41:26 HANDLE THE FUNERAL SERVICES?
07:41:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
07:41:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:41:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GRATEFUL THAT WE HAD --
07:41:40 MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
07:41:42 >> SO MOVED.
07:41:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY CITRO, SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
07:41:47 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
07:41:49
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