📝 City Council Meeting Transcript


TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
OCTOBER 7, 2021, 9:00 A.M.


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[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]

09:03:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

GOOD MORNING, CITIZENS OF TAMPA.

TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS NOW IN SESSION FOR OCTOBER 7, 2021,

9:00 A.M.

WE'LL HAVE THE INVOCATION.

MR. DINGFELDER, I SEE YOU'RE ALREADY DOWNSTAIRS, SIR.

09:03:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WAY AHEAD OF YOU.

09:03:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GIVE US A LITTLE SPIRITUAL HEALING THIS

MORNING.

09:03:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
GOOD MORNING.

MR. CHAIRMAN, IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE MATT BLAIR

FROM THE RADIANT CHURCH IN THE HEIGHTS LOCATION TO GIVE

US THE INVOCATION TODAY.

MATT IS THE LOCATION PASTOR FOR RADIANT CHURCH HEIGHTS OF

TAMPA.

HE'S ORIGINALLY FROM WILMINGTON, NORTH CAROLINA, OVER

THERE BY THE BEACH.




MAYBE HE WAS A SURFER, ORIGINALLY.

I DON'T KNOW.

HE MOVED TO THE TAMPA BAY AREA IN 2013 TO PLANT A CHURCH

IN THE NEW TAMPA AREA.

HE'S BEEN MARRIED TO HIS WIFE ERIN FOR 17 YEARS.

THEY HAVE FOUR DAUGHTERS AND ONE TWO-YEAR-OLD SON WHO

THEY ADOPTED THIS PAST YEAR.

MATT HAS A PASSION FOR HIS FAMILY, SERVING HIS CHURCH AND

PLAYING GOLF.

AT THAT HEIGHT, I BET HE IS A LONG DRIVER.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I INTRODUCE YOU TO MATT BLAIR, RADIANT

CHURCH.

09:04:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.

09:04:12 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

LET US PRAY.

ALMIGHTY GOD, CREATOR OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH, WE

THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY BLESSINGS EVIDENT TO US TODAY.

WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT EVERY GOOD THING IN OUR LIVES, IN OUR

STATE, AND IN OUR NATION COMES FROM YOU.

YOU ARE A COMPASSIONATE AND LOVING GOD AND WE ARE IN ALL

OF YOUR FAVOR THAT YOU HAVE PLACED ON US TODAY.

AS WE GATHER TODAY, WE PAUSE TO REMEMBER THE MEN AND

WOMEN THAT HAVE SACRIFICED SO GREATLY FOR US TO

EXPERIENCE THE FREEDOM WE HAVE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.

WE ASK THAT YOU PROTECT AND COMFORT AND STRENGTHEN THOSE




CURRENTLY SERVING IN OUR MILITARY AT HOME AND ABROAD.

WE ALSO ASK AND PRAY FOR THOSE ON THE FRONT LINES DURING

THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC, DOCTORS, NURSES, FIRST RESPONDERS.

WE PRAY FOR AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TEACHERS, PRINCIPALS,

ADMINISTRATORS AND ALL THOSE ON THE FRONT LINES OF OUR

EDUCATION SYSTEM.

WE PRAY CONTINUALLY FOR AN END TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.

ALSO PRAY A BLESSING OVER THE BUSINESSES REPRESENTED

TODAY.

WE THANK YOU THAT YOUR WORD TELLS YOU IF WE PUT YOU

FIRST, EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE ADDED UNTO US.

I PRAY THAT YOU WILL BE IN THE CENTER OF OUR BUSINESSES,

OUR MARRIAGES, OUR FAMILIES, AND OUR FINANCES.

WOULD YOU BLESS THESE MEN AND WOMEN IN EVERYTHING THEY DO

AND CONSTANTLY LEAD THEM IN THEIR PURPOSE FOR THEIR LIFE.

WE PRAY FOR CITY COUNCIL.

PRAY THAT YOU GIVE THEM SUPERNATURAL WISDOM, WISE COUNSEL

AROUND THEM AND LEAD THE CITY IN CONTINUALLY PROSPERITY.

PROTECT THEIR FAMILIES AND GIVE THEM SUCH A JOY DURING

THIS SEASON.

IN CLOSING, I PRAY A BLESSING FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT.

MAY THE LORD BLESS US AND KEEP US.

LET HIS FACE SHINE UPON US AND BE GRACIOUS TO US.

MAY THE LORD LOOK UPON US KINDLY AND GIVE US PEACE.

EN.




[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

09:06:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. DINGFELDER.

ROLL CALL.

09:06:12 >> CARLSON?

MANISCALCO?

09:06:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.

09:06:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
HERE.

09:06:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.

09:06:17 >> VIERA?

09:06:18 >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.

09:06:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.

09:06:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.

09:06:21 >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

09:06:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CARLSON DID SUBMIT A MEMORANDUM OF

HIS ABSENCE TODAY.

HE'S AT A CONFERENCE.

MR. SHELBY.

09:06:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE

PUBLIC.

MARTIN SHELBY, THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

THIS MEETING OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS BEING CONDUCTED

WITH A LIVE IN-PERSON QUORUM OF THE CITY COUNCIL PRESENT

IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.




HOWEVER, IN LIGHT OF THE CONTINUING COVID-19 GOVERNMENT

ISSUED HEALTH STANDARDS OR GUIDANCE IN EFFECT MEMBERS OF

THE PUBLIC HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY

THROUGH VIDEO TELECONFERENCING REFERRED TO BY FLORIDA

STATUTES AND RULES AS COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR

CMT.

THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO

WATCH, LISTEN, AND VIEW THIS MEETING ON CABLE TV CHANNEL

640 WITH SPECTRUM AND FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 AND LIVE

STREAMING ON THE INTERNET AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.

NOW, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE BY

ALTERNATE METHODS OTHER THAN IN PERSON BY SENDING

COMMENTS ON THE INTERNET OR WEB, COMMENTS BY E-MAIL, U.S.

MAIL, AND TO SPEAK REMOTELY USING CMT BY PREREGISTERING.

THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR DOING THAT AND THE DEADLINE FOR

PREREGISTERING IS AVAILABLE AT TAMPAGOV.NET/CITYCOUNCIL,

ONE WORD.

NOW, FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A

COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA DEVICE OR WHO WISH TO COME DOWN TO

OLD CITY HALL HAVE THE OPTION TO PARTICIPATE VIA

COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY WHICH IS MADE AVAILABLE

TO THE PUBLIC BY THE CITY OF TAMPA DURING THIS MEETING

HERE AT OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, AND

THAT IS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

AND PLEASE NOTE THE USE OF MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING




INSIDE THE BUILDING ARE ENCOURAGED.

ALSO, THE INSTRUCTIONS TO PARTICIPATE IN LAND USE AND

ALCOHOL BEVERAGE HEARINGS, PREREGISTRATION IS REQUIRED

FOR VIRTUAL.

AGAIN, THOSE INSTRUCTIONS ARE ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE CITY

COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE.

NOW, COUNCIL, THE WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED

TO CITY COUNCIL, AND I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES MY REMARKS

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE THING.

ON THE MEETING PLATFORM, THOSE PREREGISTERED, PLEASE DO

NOT USE THE CHAT BOX TO COMMUNICATE WITH CITY COUNCIL

MEMBERS.

THAT IS FOR TECHNICAL CONCERNS AND ISSUES ONLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:08:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.

09:08:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, A MOTION, PLEASE.

09:08:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANISCALCO MOVED IT.

MR. CITRO SECONDED IT.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIED.

GENTLEMEN, WE'LL GO WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

MR. DINGFELDER, ARE YOU STILL ON THE SECOND FLOOR, SIR?

09:09:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I AM.

09:09:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
PLEASE STAY THERE.




ONCE I GO THROUGH THE AGENDA, I'LL NEED YOU TO STAY THERE

TO DO THE PRESENTATION FOR ATU.

WE ONLY HAVE FOUR HERE.

WE MUST CONTINUE WITH A QUORUM.

09:09:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
ABSOLUTELY.

09:09:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
LET'S GO THROUGH THE AGENDA, GENTLEMEN.

MR. SHELBY.

09:09:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE AN ADDENDUM IN

FRONT OF YOU.

I BELIEVE THERE IS A SUBSTITUTION ON NUMBER 47.

AND I BELIEF EVERYTHING ELSE IS NOTATED ON THE FINAL

AGENDA.

ANYTHING WE NEED TO MAKE NOTE OF, MADAM CLERK?

09:09:42 >>THE CLERK:
NO, THAT IS IT.

09:09:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I BELIEVE ON THE CONSENT, I BELIEVE WHEN

WE GET TO ITEM 26, 26 THROUGH I THINK 42 WILL BE UNDER

STAFF REPORTS, AND THEN AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, WE WILL

APPROVE ALL THOSE CONCURRENT ITEMS, BUT I ASK STAFF TO

COME MAKE A PRESENTATION REGARDING THAT PROGRAM THAT WAS

NECESSARY.

09:10:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ALL THOSE ITEMS WILL BE PULLED, 26

THROUGH 42 TO BE HELD FOR STAFF REPORTS OFF THE CONSENT

DOCKET AND TAKE IT UP THEN.

09:10:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
26 THROUGH 42.

09:10:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU WANT TO REVIEW THE STAFF REPORTS?




09:10:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, WE'LL REVIEW THEM.

09:10:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THERE IS NO ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE FOR

NUMBER 62.

THAT IS CORRECT.

09:10:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE KNOW WE WANT TO HEAR FROM CHIEF TRIPP

ON 63.

WE KNOW SHE WILL NEED TO BE PRESENT ON THAT.

ITEM 64 THAT'S PARKS AND REC.

THAT'S MR. CARLSON.

09:10:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HE'S NOT PRESENT TODAY.

09:10:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HE'S NOT PRESENT.

I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE.

THAT CAN BE HEARD AND HE CAN VIEW IT.

09:11:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. CHAIR, YES, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR

THIS.

09:11:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.

ITEM 65, I KNOW MR. VIERA -- DO YOU NEED HER HERE FOR

THAT, SIR?

09:11:15 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

IS THAT ON THE JOBS PROGRAM?

09:11:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, SIR, THE COMMUNITY -- I WANT TO

HEAR IT.

09:11:30 >>LUIS VIERA:
THEN I'LL ANSWER YES.

09:11:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE

COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR YOUNG




PEOPLE.

09:11:35 >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I WANTED TO THANK YOU

FOR ALLOWING ME TO APPEAR VIRTUAL.

I'VE BEEN SICK THE LAST TWO DAYS.

09:11:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT'S WHY WE'RE CLOSE CIRCUIT IN HERE.

I UNDERSTAND.

ITEM 66, ANYONE NEED TO BE -- MR. MIRANDA?

09:11:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THERE IS NO WRITTEN REPORT ON THAT.

09:11:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT, PLEASE, MR.

CHAIR.

09:11:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
67.

MR. DINGFELDER, I'M SURE YOU WANT TO HEAR THAT.

09:12:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MS. FEELEY IS PREPARED TO PRESENT ON

THAT.

09:12:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER, ARE YOU GOOD WITH NUMBER

68 IN REFERENCE TO REPORT FOR CHANNELSIDE FOR LINDA

SAUL-SENA.

I WAS BRIEFED ON THAT BRIEFLY.

09:12:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WHENEVER YOU WISH, WE'LL CONTINUE THAT

ITEM TO JANUARY.

09:12:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
JANUARY.

ALL RIGHT.

09:12:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT DATE IN JANUARY?

09:12:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
13.

09:12:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
JANUARY 13, 2022.




SECOND ON THAT, PLEASE?

SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIED.

JANUARY 13, 2022.

69, WE HAVE TO HEAR THAT FROM THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND

MYSELF, MR. SHELBY.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

MR. MANISCALCO MOVED IT.

MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

09:12:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THAT INCLUDED THE ADDENDUM?

09:12:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GO ATU.

MR. DINGFELDER YOU'RE AT THE PODIUM, SINCE I CANNOT BE

THERE, MAKE THE PRESENTATION FOR US THIS MORNING, SIR.

09:13:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WE'LL GET THIS MOVING.

EVERY QUARTER WE DO THE ATU, OUR GENERAL EMPLOYEES UNION.

IS IT EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH OR EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER?

EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.

WE DO IT MONTHLY.




STEVE SIMON IS GOING TO KICK US OFF.

HE'LL INTRODUCE OUR HR DIRECTOR, KELLY AUSTIN, AND THEN

WE'LL PRESENT IT TO MS. KODESHA SMALL.

STEVE SIMON.

09:13:59 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL, AND CITY ATTORNEY.

I'M STEVE SIMON, PRESIDENT OF ATU LOCAL 1464.

I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO INTRODUCE TO YOU THE

ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, MS. KODESHA SMALL.

[ APPLAUSE ]

KODESHA IS A PERSONNEL ASSISTANT II ON THE HUMAN

RESOURCES EMPLOYEE RELATIONS TEAM.

SHE LEADS HER TEAM IN PROCESSING TELESTAFF, KRONOS AND

ORACLE TRANSACTIONS FOR NEARLY 1200 EMPLOYEES IN THE

TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.

KODESHA SETS THE EXAMPLE FOR HER TEAM IN TERMS OF

EXPERTISE, WORK ETHIC, AND LEADERSHIP.

DURING THE PANDEMIC, SHE SUCCESSFULLY TRAINED TWO NEW

EMPLOYEES, TRACKED EMERGENCY PAY CODE USE, AND PROCESSED

OVERTIME FORMS FOR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT.

SHE ALSO CREATED TOOLS AND CHECKLISTS TO ENSURE THE TEAM

COMPLETES TASKS ACCURATELY AND TIMELY.

KODESHA IS HIGHLY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN ALL ASPECTS OF

BALANCING KRONOS, TIMECARDS FOR PAYROLL PROCESSING,

ENSURING ALL EMPLOYEES ARE PAID ACCURATELY AND ON TIME.




EMPLOYEES COMPLIMENT HER HIGH LEVEL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE,

CARING ATTITUDE, AND ABILITY TO QUICKLY RESOLVE THEIR HR

PAYROLL PROCESSES.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO AND FOR THE ROLE YOU PLAY IN

PARTICIPATING IN KEEPING THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING AND AS

A TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION, ON BEHALF OF ATU LOCAL 1464

I'D LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH A $100 GIFT CARD.

09:15:39 >> THANK YOU.

[ APPLAUSE ]

I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MS. KELLY AUSTIN SO SHE CAN

SAY A FEW WORDS, PLEASE.

09:15:50 >> KELLY AUSTIN, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND TALENT

DEVELOPMENT.

I AM SO EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY SO WE CAN HONOR KODESHA.

KODESHA REPRESENTS EVERYTHING THAT'S RIGHT WITH HUMAN

RESOURCES.

EVERYTHING THAT'S RIGHT WITH THE CITY.

KODESHA IS VERY, VERY QUIET, VERY SHY.

I PROMISED I WOULD NOT EMBARRASS HER TOO MUCH TODAY.

BUT KODESHA JOINED THE CITY.

SHE'S NOT AN EXTREMELY TENURED EMPLOYEE, BUT SHE'S GOT

SOME SERVICE WITH THE CITY.

AND IN THE SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, SHE'S MADE A VERY BIG

IMPACT ON PROCESSES, PROCEDURES, HOW TO MAKE THINGS

BETTER IN HRM AS WELL AS BEING DEPENDABLE, RELIABLE.




IF I HAD ONE FAULT FOR KODESHA, IT WOULD SIMPLY BE THAT

SHE DOES NOT RECOGNIZE HOW INCREDIBLY AMAZING SHE IS IN

WHAT SHE DOES EVERY DAY.

I CAN'T BEGIN TO TELL YOU HOW MANY CALLS I GET FROM LAW

ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO SAY, OH, NEVER MIND, I TALKED TO

KODESHA AND KODESHA TOOK CARE OF IT FOR ME.

SHE RECENTLY ELEVATED TO A TEAM LEAD IN THE HRM GROUP,

AND THAT IS DEMONSTRATING THE CONFIDENCE THAT WE HAVE IN

HER AND THE LEADERSHIP ABILITY THAT SHE HAS, AND I'M JUST

SO, SO THRILLED THAT THE ATU IS RECOGNIZING HER.

WE ALL APPRECIATE KODESHA.

ALL THE HR TEAM, VERY APPRECIATIVE WHAT EVERYBODY HAS

BEEN DOING DURING THESE VERY DIFFICULT TIMES.

I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT KODESHA.

THANK YOU, AND CONGRATULATIONS.

09:17:10 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[ APPLAUSE ]

09:17:19 >>STEVE MICHELINI:
GOOD MORNING.

STEVE MICHELINI, ON BEHALF OF A COUPLE OF THE CORPORATE

CITIZENS OUT THERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE KODESHA.

ONE IS FROM CICCIO'S RESTAURANT GROUP.

THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE HER WITH A $50 GIFT CERTIFICATE

SO SHE CAN ENJOY HERSELF WITH BREAKFAST, LUNCH, OR

DINNER.

ON BEHALF OF YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, THEY ARE PROVIDING




HER WITH A $50 GIFT CERTIFICATE.

ON BEHALF OF A NEW RESTAURANT, BELLA BRAVA IN MIDTOWN,

THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE HER WITH A $50 GIFT

CERTIFICATE.

AND ON BEHALF OF PRESTIGE PORTRAITS, THEY ARE PROVIDING

HER WITH A COMPLEMENTARY PORTRAIT PACKAGE FOR HER AND HER

FAMILY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

09:17:59 >> THANK YOU.

09:18:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
GO AHEAD AND GIVE THE COMMENDATION.

KODESHA, I'M SO HONORED TO PRESENT THIS.

YOU'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY SINCE 2017 AND OBVIOUSLY MADE A

BIG IMPACT AS INDICATED BY MS. AUSTIN.

ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, WE'RE PROUD TO RECOGNIZE

YOU, KODESHA SMALL, THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR

YOUR EXCEPTIONAL PERFORMANCE OF DUTIES AS A PERSONNEL

ASSISTANT II.

AS STEVE MENTIONED, SINCE JOINING THE HR EMPLOYEE

RELATIONS TEAM IN 2017, YOU STEPPED INTO THE ROLE -- INTO

THE ROLE OF TEAM LEAD OF THREE PERSONNEL ASSISTANTS.

PRETTY IMPRESSIVE FOR SUCH A YOUNG LADY.

YOUR TEAM IS RESPONSIBLE -- I CAN'T PRONOUNCE THESE WORDS

SO I'M NOT GOING TO TRY.

TELESTAFF, KRONOS, ORACLE, TRANSACTIONS FOR ALMOST 1200

EMPLOYEES IN THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, TAMPA FIRE




RESCUE, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AND ESPECIALLY DURING

COVID.

THAT'S BEEN A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT POSITION.

YOU SUCCESSFULLY TRAINED TWO NEW EMPLOYEES.

TRACKED EMERGENCY PAY CODE USE AND PROCESSED OVERTIME FOR

FEMA REIMBURSEMENTS.

YOU'VE GOT A LOT ON YOUR PLATE.

WE'RE PROUD TO HAVE YOU AS A MEMBER OF OUR TEAM, MEMBER

OF OUR CITY OF TAMPA WORKFORCE.

IT'S WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL

PRESENTS THIS COMMENDATION TO YOU, KODESHA SMALL, AS THE

ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.

09:19:35 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[ APPLAUSE ]

09:19:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE IN A MINUTE.

09:19:43 >> IF I MAY, I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT YOU ALSO GOT A

LETTER FROM MAYOR CASTOR.

JUST A PORTION THAT I'LL READ, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

YOU DEMONSTRATE A FIRM COMMITMENT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA,

YOUR DEPARTMENT, AND TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND YOU SET A SHINING EXAMPLE FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW.

IT IS EMPLOYEES LIKE YOU, KODESHA, THAT MAKE ME PROUD TO

SERVE AS MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND SERVICE.

SINCERELY, MAYOR JANE.




09:20:08 >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

09:20:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SAY A FEW WORDS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

09:20:14 >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE.

I WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS AT ALL.

I DON'T EXPECT ANY REWARDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO I WAS EXTREMELY SURPRISED TO GET THIS HONOR TODAY.

I'M GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE KIND WORDS THAT EVERYONE HAD TO

SAY ABOUT ME, ESPECIALLY MS. KELLY.

OF COURSE, I DIDN'T KNOW ALL THAT WAS HAPPENING, WHAT SHE

STATED, WITH EVERYONE CALLING HER.

I'M JUST GLAD AND I'M BLOWN AWAY ABOUT EVERYTHING AND

BEING RECOGNIZED AND ALL THE KIND WORDS THAT EVERYONE HAD

TO SAY ABOUT ME.

I REALLY TRULY, TRULY APPRECIATE THIS RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU.

09:20:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THAT'S AWESOME.

KODESHA, I WANT TO SAY ONE THING, WHEN STEVE WAS READING

THE THINGS YOU DO AND KELLY WAS SAYING THE NICE WORDS,

THE BIGGEST COMPLIMENT I THINK YOU CAN HAVE FROM NOT ONLY

MS. KELLY BUT ALSO YOUR PEERS.

I WAS LOOKING BEHIND, THEY ARE ALL HERE AND ALL SHAKING

THEIR HEAD UP AND DOWN.

09:21:21 >>LUIS VIERA:
CONGRATULATIONS FOR THE WORK.

WE BEGAN AS A COUNCIL TO HONOR ATU MEMBERS BECAUSE THE

WORK THAT YOU ALL DO IS SO VERY IMPORTANT, AND YOUR JOB




IS A REAL REFLECTION OF THAT.

YOU GO ALONG WITH IT, AS KELLY AND STEVE AND OTHERS

TALKED ABOUT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND OTHERS TALKED

ABOUT IN A WAY THAT IS ONE OF HUMILITY, BUT JUST

AGGRESSIVE HARD WORK FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.

JUST KNOW THAT WE APPRECIATE YOU.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR FAMILY.

AND TODAY IS JUST ONE DAY WE SET ASIDE TO HONOR YOU AND

YOUR WORK AND SO MANY OTHERS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

AND GOD BLESS YOU.

09:21:59 >> THANK YOU.

09:22:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

FIRST, MR. SIMON, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE AT

CITY HALL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM.

OUR DIRECTOR KELLY AUSTIN I THINK SAID IT ALL.

YOU REPRESENT EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD ABOUT THE

DEPARTMENT, ABOUT HUMAN RESOURCES.

YOUR DEDICATION TO THE CITY, YOUR DEDICATION TO OUR

COMMUNITY, TO OUR THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES.

YOU DESERVE RECOGNITION EVERY DAY.

I KNOW THAT -- AND I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR ALL THE

COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO, WHAT ALL

OF OUR EMPLOYEES DO, AND THIS IS VERY MUCH WELL DESERVED.




SO THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS.

09:22:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CITRO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

09:22:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I OFTEN SAY THAT WE WHO WORK FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE

FAMILY.

AND I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING AN IMPORTANT

PART OF THIS FAMILY, OF ALL THE EMPLOYEES FOR THE CITY OF

TAMPA.

AND CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR HARD WORK AND CONGRATULATE

YOU ON THIS AWARD.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

09:22:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND WITNESS WHAT I'M SEEING.

IN JUST A SHORT FOUR YEARS WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND

COMPLIMENT YOU.

BEHIND YOU, THERE ARE TEN OTHER EMPLOYEES, ALONG WITH

MS. KELLY AND, OF COURSE, THE LEADER OF THE AMALGAMATED

TRANSIT UNION 1464 WHO HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB, MR.

SIMON.

THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE AND WILL CONTINUE TO

DO WITH THE REST OF YOUR CAREER WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.

LIKE MR. CITRO SAID, IT'S MORE THAN FAMILY.

IT'S ABOUT HELPING EACH OTHER ON EVERY WORK DAY TO MAKE

SURE THAT ALL OF US GET THROUGH WHATEVER PROBLEMS WE MAY

HAVE ASIDE FROM BEING EMPLOYED BY THE CITY.




WE FALL ON HARD TIMES, NOT BECAUSE OF WHAT WE DO, BECAUSE

OF THE VIRUS AND ECONOMIC SITUATIONS AND THINGS THAT WE

HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU PERSONALLY ON BEHALF OF

MYSELF AND OVER 400,000 INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE IN THE CITY

OF TAMPA, WONDERFUL CITIZENS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:23:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER, YOU TALKED ABOUT KRONOS

AND TELE-- I THINK THAT SYSTEM CAME THE END OF 2014,

STARTING ABOUT 2015.

THAT'S HOW FOLKS GET THEIR PAY, TAKE TIME OFF, VACATIONS,

CALENDARS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

THAT'S WHAT THAT SYSTEM IS ALL ABOUT.

IF THAT LADY IS WORKING THAT SYSTEM FOR THAT MANY PEOPLE,

SHE HAS A HECK OF A JOB.

GETTING THAT WORK DONE FOR PAYROLL AND GET IT DONE FOR

EVERYBODY TO GET THEIR PAY.

GOOD TO SEE YOUNG PEOPLE STRIVING, YOUNG PEOPLE WITH A

SMILE ON THEIR FACE.

THAT MASK IS ON, I CAN TELL SHE IS A CHEERFUL YOUNG LADY.

SHE BRINGS THE AURA INTO THE ROOM.

THAT'S WHY SHE'S RECOGNIZED.

SPIRIT OF JOYFULNESS, WORK ETHIC, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT SHE'S REALLY WORKING HARD

FOR THE CITY.




AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOUNG LADY.

09:24:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:24:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2.

MR. VIERA IS HERE.

MR. MANISCALCO IS HERE.

WE HAVE TO WAIT.

YES, ITEM NUMBER 1.

09:25:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ARE THERE GOING TO BE PEOPLE ON 2?

IF WE COULD HAVE THE SECOND FLOOR ON THE MONITORS,

PLEASE.

THERE WE GO.

THANK YOU.

09:25:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE'RE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER 1.

09:27:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MADAM CLERK, COULD WE TAKE ROLL AGAIN

WHEN MR. MANISCALCO LEAVES.

WHY DON'T WE DO THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THE QUORUM, JUST TO SPEED UP TIME, IS

THAT OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN?

09:27:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT'S FINE.

09:27:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.

PLEASE ASK HIM TO COME BACK.

09:27:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GOOD MORNING, SIR.

I SEE LISA DOWN THERE.

09:28:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

09:28:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ROLL CALL.




09:28:03 >> CARLSON?

MANISCALCO?

DINGFELDER?

09:28:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
HERE.

09:28:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

09:28:11 >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.

09:28:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.

09:28:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.

09:28:15 >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

09:28:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S MY HONOR THIS MORNING, IF YOU WANT TO ALL COME UP.

WE HAD THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION TO PRESENT TO

THE ARTHRITIS FOUNDATION.

ARTHRITIS IS SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS MANY OF US OR FAMILY

MEMBERS OR PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT

WE UNDERSTAND IS VERY, VERY SERIOUS.

SO WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THE ARTHRITIS FOUNDATION

DOES, AND WE'RE HERE TODAY BECAUSE OCTOBER 12 IS WORLD

ARTHRITIS AWARENESS DAY.

WELL, IT'S NATIONAL, BUT I READ IT AS BOTH WORLD -- YOU

KNOW, BUT THE AWARENESS IS THERE AND THE MESSAGE IS

SHARED.

I HAVE A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WITH ME THAT I'D LIKE TO

PRESENT THIS TO.

I'LL READ FROM THE COMMENDATION.




THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS HONORED TO RECOGNIZE THE

ARTHRITIS FOUNDATION OF TAMPA BAY, WHICH WILL BE

CELEBRATING NATIONAL ARTHRITIS AWARENESS DAY ON OCTOBER

12.

THE ARTHRITIS FOUNDATION WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1948 AND

PROVIDES SUPPORT AND RESOURCES TO THE OVER 54 MILLION

ERICANS THAT SUFFER FROM THE DISEASE.

ARTHRITIS IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DISABILITY IN THE

COUNTRY AND ACCOUNTS FOR BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN LOST

PRODUCTIVITY EACH YEAR.

ARTHRITIS HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED TO BE AN ELDERLY PERSON'S

DISEASE BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

MORE THAN 300,000 CHILDREN SUFFER FROM VARIOUS FORMS OF

ARTHRITIS.

ARTHRITIS FOUNDATION NOT ONLY FUNDS RESEARCH THAT IS

WORKING TOWARD BETTER TREATMENT OPTIONS AND EVENTUAL

CURE, BUT THEY HAVE PROGRAMS FOR ADULTS, CHILDREN, AND

THEIR FAMILIES TO HELP THEM BETTER LIVE WITH THE DISEASE.

WE ARE SO GRATEFUL AND APPRECIATIVE FOR YOUR VALIANT

EFFORTS ON THIS WORTHWHILE CAUSE, AND IT IS THE TAMPA

CITY COUNCIL'S PROFOUND HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO PRESENT

THE ARTHRITIS FOUNDATION OF TAMPA BAY WITH THIS

COMMENDATION ON THE 7th DAY OF OCTOBER, 2021.

CONGRATULATIONS.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING?




09:30:12 >> I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FOR HELPING US

RAISE AWARENESS.

MY NAME IS TRACEY CORN.

I AM THE ADVOCACY CHAIR FOR THE ARTHRITIS FOUNDATION OF

TAMPA BAY.

I'M ALSO THE MOTHER OF TWO DAUGHTERS WITH ARTHRITIS.

AND WE HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD WITH US.

WE HAVE DR. GINA SCHELL, SHE IS OUR DIRECTOR, BOARD

DIRECTOR WITH US.

Y BOUSQUET, PROFESSOR FROM HCC, BOARD MEMBER.

WE HAVE BRIANNA REEVES, BOARD MEMBER.

KELLY McCARTHY AND STEVEN CORN, ALL ACTIVE IN THE

ARTHRITIS FOUNDATION.

AS THE COUNCILMAN MENTIONED, ARTHRITIS DOES AFFECT

MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF AMERICANS.

THE 300,000 CHILDREN THAT ARE AFFECTED BY ARTHRITIS, THE

DISEASE IS ESPECIALLY CRUEL TO THEM.

SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE RAISING AWARENESS AHEAD OF

NATIONAL ARTHRITIS DAY.

THE ARTHRITIS FOUNDATION HAS MANY, MANY PROGRAMS

AVAILABLE TO THE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA BAY TO HELP YOU LIVE

WITH THE DISEASE AND RESOURCES THAT CAN HELP YOU LIVE

YOUR BEST LIFE.

GO TO ARTHRITIS.ORG.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE.




AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR RAISING AWARENESS THAT ARTHRITIS IS

NOT JUST AN OLD PERSON'S DISEASE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:31:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. VIERA, ANYTHING, SIR?

09:31:21 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, FOR BRINGING THIS

FORWARD.

IT'S SO FUNNY BECAUSE I THINK CHAIRMAN GUDES ONCE SAID

THIS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU KNOW

IT.

A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT ISSUES LIKE

ARTHRITIS.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, MA'AM, A LOT OF FOLKS THINK OF IT AS

SOMETHING FOR SENIOR CITIZENS, BUT IT'S NOT.

AND THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT CONDITIONS OUT THERE THAT

AFFECT SO MANY FAMILIES FROM ARTHRITIS TO CANCER, ALL

SORTS OF TYPES OF CANCER, THINGS YOU MAY NOT THINK ABOUT,

OBVIOUSLY, INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES, THINGS YOU MAY NOT

THINK ABOUT UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO YOU OR A LOVED ONE.

THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE PEOPLE LIKE

COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND OTHERS BRING FORTH THESE ISSUES

OF AWARENESS SO THAT WE CAN ALL BECOME MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE

AND EMPATHETIC.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEATING THAT DRUM TODAY FOR SUCH

AN IMPORTANT PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY, MA'AM, FOR YOUR




CHILDREN AND OTHERS.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR STORY AS I REALLY APPRECIATE

IT.

THANK YOU.

09:32:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CITRO.

09:32:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU TO YOUR GROUP FOR BRINGING TO OUR ATTENTION

THIS DEVASTATING AND HORRIBLE DISEASE.

WE REALLY DO NEED TO LOOK AT THE CHILDREN THAT ARE

AFFECTED BY THIS AND HOW IT AFFECTS THEIR LIVES AND HOW

MAYBE WE CAN HELP BETTER THEIR LIVES.

HOPEFULLY WITH THE AWARENESS THAT YOU BRING NOT ONLY TO

THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA AND THIS

COUNTRY, THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO FIND A CURE OR

TREATMENT, BETTER TREATMENT FOR THIS TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE

DISEASE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

09:33:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.

MR. DINGFELDER.

09:33:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MR. CITRO SAID IT VERY WELL.

THE AWARENESS IS REALLY CRITICAL ON ALL THESE TYPES OF

MATTERS.

AS VOLUNTEERS, WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.




09:33:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ARTHRITIS IS -- NO ONE WANTS IT, BUT A LOT OF US GET IT.

THERE'S DIFFERENT FORMS OF ARTHRITIS, AS WE ALL KNOW, AND

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOT TO BE RECOGNIZED.

I KNOW WE MADE MANY STRIDES LATELY IN MEDICINE TO AT

LEAST THE HEALING OF THE PAIN THAT YOU HAVE.

BUT I THINK WE'RE GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO FIND OUT

THE REAL PROBLEMS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WORKING AND MAKING SURE THESE

DAYS AND THESE DEADLY SOMETIMES -- PAIN YOU HAVE FROM

HAVING ARTHRITIS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE AND WE'RE MAKING

STRIDES TO CURE IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:33:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANISCALCO, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING

THIS PRESENTATION FORWARD AND LETTING THE COMMUNITY BE

AWARE THAT THERE IS A FOUNDATION THAT CAN HELP FOR

INFORMATION.

THANK YOU, LADIES FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING AND CONTINUE

TO DO.

GOD BLESS YOU.

09:34:07 >> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 2.

09:34:21 >> GOOD MORNING.

THIS IS YASSERT GONZALEZ, PLANNING COMMISSION, MANAGER OF




ECONOMICS, DEMOGRAPHICS, AND RESEARCH.

WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT ON THE TAMPA REDISTRICTING EFFORT

THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE NEXT YEAR.

MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?

09:34:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GET IT BLOWN UP A LITTLE BIT, WE CAN SEE

IT?

WE HAVE IT, SIR.

THANK YOU.

09:35:05 >> ONCE AGAIN, GOOD MORNING.

WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE.

ONCE AGAIN, EVERY FOUR YEARS WE DO THIS EXERCISE WHERE WE

LOOK AT THE BOUNDARIES OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICT BEFORE

INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS.

WE DO TWEAKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POPULATIONS IN THE

COUNCIL DISTRICTS BY LAW.

[INDISCERNIBLE]

AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WHY DO WE DO THIS?

THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FOLLOWING.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DESCRIBING.

FIRST OF ALL, IT IS REQUIRED BY LAW BOTH FLORIDA LAWS

CHAPTER 86-404 AND ALSO BY THE TAMPA CITY CHARTER.

AGAIN, REQUIRED TO DO EVERY FOUR YEARS.

THE LAST TIME WE WERE IN FRONT OF YOU WITH THIS ITEM WAS

2017.




AGAIN -- THE NEXT ELECTION MARCH 2023.

[INDISCERNIBLE]

NOW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS AND APPROVES THE

REDISTRICTING PLAN.

[INDISCERNIBLE]

SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION WILL DO A PROCLAMATION OF THE

BOUNDARIES AND, OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO

YOU SOMETIME THIS SUMMER WE HOPE WITH THE FINAL

BOUNDARIES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS SELECTED.

REQUIREMENTS PER YOUR CITY CHARTER, WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC

HEARINGS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES.

WE ARE GOING TO RESPECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE PRESENT

BOUNDARIES.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR COMPACT, CONTIGUOUS DISTRICTS.

WEAN, WE'RE TRYING TO EQUATE THE TOTAL POPULATION OF

DISTRICTS --

AGAIN, THE CLASSICAL GERRYMANDER WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID.

GERRYMANDERING LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR MANY TIMES --

DEVELOPING DISTRICTS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.

WHILE SERVING COMPLETENESS, COMPACTNESS AND CONTIGUOUS.

A LOT OF HUBBUB OF -- SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS OUT OF THE

OFFICE IN A SENSE.

HAVE TO MOVE DISTRICTS.

THIS IS NOT HAPPENING IN THE CITY.

WE ALSO DO A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.




MOVE AS LITTLE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.

OR MAKE WILD SWINGS.

AGAIN, NEGATIVE IMPACTS.

VERY IMPORTANT TO STRESS THAT TAMPA'S TOTAL POPULATION,

NOT VOTING AGE POPULATION OR POPULATION BY RACE, WE'RE

USING THE CENSUS 2020, WHICH IS THE LATEST AVAILABLE

CENSUS AS OF NOW.

09:38:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
EXCUSE ME, SIR.

I.T., CAN YOU GIVE A LITTLE VOLUME FOR THE COUNCIL

MEMBERS.

WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING HIM.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

YOU MAY CONTINUE.

09:38:41 >> THE RANGE IS WHAT WE USE TO ASSESS HOW FAR APART THE

DISTRICTS AND DISTRICT POPULATIONS.

RIGHT NOW THE RANGE IS AROUND 5.6%.

WE'RE TRYING TO LOWER THAT TO LESS THAN 5.

BECAUSE WE DO THIS EVERY FOUR YEARS, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO

A LOT OF MOVEMENTS.

IT'S NOT A DRAMATIC SHIFT.

AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, AGAIN, 5.57, THAT IS THE STATUS QUO

FOR CURRENT CONDITIONS.

EACH ALTERNATIVE OF THE FOUR, AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE

BOTTOM THERE, THE RANGE, THE DIFFERENCE MOST POPULOUS --

LESS THAN 5.




AGAIN, WE ARE MOVING -- LESS THAN 5, MOVING FROM HIGHLY

OR MOST POPULATED DISTRICTS TO THE LEAST POPULATED

DISTRICTS.

AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS A VERY PECULIAR FORM.

GOES NORTH TO SOUTH.

ONLY A FINITE NUMBER OF MOVES WE CAN DO FOR DISTRICTS.

ONLY PROPOSING FOUR ALTERNATIVES.

TRY TO BE AS CONSERVATIVE AS POSSIBLE.

VERY IMPORTANT CONCERNS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS IN DISTRICT

5.

AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS AT LEAST 50%.

MAINTAIN THAT.

ALSO IN COUNCIL DISTRICT 6, HISPANIC VOTERS WILL BE AT

LEAST 24%.

AGAIN, ALTHOUGH WE ARE USING TOTAL POPULATION CAPACITY OF

THE MEASURE FOR QUALITY TO SELECT EQUAL POPULATION, WE

ARE ALSO OBSERVING, YOU KNOW.

WE CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM.

WE'RE OBSERVING THAT THIS, AGAIN, THAT THIS TOOL BRINGS.

[INDISCERNIBLE]

KEY DATES, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE MEETING INDIVIDUALLY WITH

COUNCILMAN VIERA.

MET WITH COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

HOPING TO HAVE MORE MEETINGS WITH THE REST OF YOU, THOSE

THAT ARE INTERESTED.




AGAIN, MANY BRIEF MEETINGS WE'LL GO OVER AND ASK

QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE NOW OR MAY THINK OF LATER.

AGAIN, PER THE CITY CHARTER, NO LATER THAN JUNE 2022 WE

MUST -- THE COUNCIL MUST APPROVE THE DISTRICTS AND THEN

FORWARD TO --

[INDISCERNIBLE]

NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER 1.

WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THE

BOUNDARIES AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

HOW DOES THE PUBLIC GET INVOLVED?

ATTEND MEETINGS AND SPREAD THE WORD.

ALSO A COMMENT FORM AND ALSO E-MAIL INFORMATION THAT YOU

CONTACT ME.

HEY, WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT SOMETHING.

JUST TRY TO SEE WHAT THE PREFERENCE IS OUT THERE.

ALSO, SPEAK DURING THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE

PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE ARE ALSO THINKING OF AS CUSTOM, AS TRADITIONAL, WE ARE

GOING TO BE GOING OUT NEXT YEAR.

WE TRIED TO LET THE COUNTY REDISTRICTING PROCESS TO MAIL

STUFF OUT FIRST.

NEXT YEAR, WE'LL GO AND TRY TO INVITE THE PUBLIC.

WE HAVE AT LEAST FOUR PUBLIC IN-PERSON MEETINGS SCHEDULED

AND AT LEAST TWO ZOOM MEETINGS DURING THE WEEK.




AGAIN IT'S GOING TO BE OPEN HOUSES TO COME IN AND LOOK AT

MAPS AND ASK THE QUESTIONS.

ALSO, BEFORE THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING TO THE

NAACP, WE'RE HOPING AND HISPANIC COUNCIL, REACHING OUT TO

THEM, HEY, WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR A MEETING AND TALK ABOUT

THIS IF YOU THINK SOMETHING --

WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST.

WE'LL CONTINUE DO IT NOW.

ALSO THIS NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, ACTIVITY, JANUARY, WE

HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, MAKING SURE WE GET EVERYBODY

EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

AGAIN, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS AND APPROVES.

WE'RE GOING TO BE HOSTING MEETINGS, PUBLIC MEETINGS, OPEN

HOUSES, JANUARY -- STARTING IN JANUARY.

WE'RE GOING TO HOLD TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND HAVE AN

ALTERNATIVE JUNE 10.

NO RETROGRESSION IN THE PROPOSED ALTERNATIVES.

CITYWIDE ELECTIONS MARCH 7, 2023.

WE WILL HAVE NEW BOUNDARIES WAY BEFORE THEN.

THERE IS MY CONTACT INFORMATION.

WHETHER YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WHETHER YOU KNOW OF A GROUP

THAT MAY BENEFIT FROM THIS INFORMATION AND FROM US

TALKING TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY.

WE ARE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM THEM.

AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO US, LIKE COUNCILMAN




VIERA AND COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO HAVE ALREADY DONE, PLEASE

CONTACT US.

WE HAVE OUR WEBSITE, AGAIN FOR THE FIRST TIME NOW, ALSO

IN SPANISH.

WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING OUT

THERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

ANY QUESTIONS?

09:44:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

THANK YOU, SIR.

09:44:14 >> GOOD MORNING.

JUST HERE TO SUPPORT THE PROCESS.

09:44:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. LATIMER?

MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

09:44:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE

TODAY FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION.

THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROCESS THAT WE DO EVERY DECADE,

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH YOU PERSONALLY TO GO

THROUGH THESE ALTERNATIVES AND HOPEFULLY PERHAPS ATTEND

SOME OF THE PUBLIC SESSIONS AS WELL.

I JUST WANT TO STRESS TO THE COMMUNITY TO GET INVOLVED IN

THIS, TO GO ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S WEBSITE TO BE

ABLE TO SEE THESE MAP ALTERNATIVES AND ATTEND THE Q & A

SESSIONS AS THEY BECOME AVAILABLE IN THE DIFFERENT




DISTRICTS AROUND TOWN.

AGAIN, THANK YOU TO BOTH OF YOU FOR THIS IMPORTANT TASK.

09:45:13 >> THIS IS DONE EVERY FOUR YEARS BY THE CHARTER.

IT'S DONE BEFORE EVERY CITY ELECTION, EVERY FOUR YEARS,

WHICH SHOULD BE A MODEL FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTY AND

THE COUNTRY, QUITE FRANKLY.

09:45:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, CRAIG.

FOR SOME REASON, I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE CONGRESS, I GUESS,

EVERY TEN YEARS OR SOMETHING.

09:45:34 >>LUIS VIERA:
MR. CHAIR, MAY I?

09:45:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

09:45:36 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.

I WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT PLANNING

COMMISSION AND SUPERVISOR AND EVERYBODY DOES.

I REALLY DO, AND SALUTE THE PROCESS THAT WE IN THE CITY

OF TAMPA HAVE HERE.

WE HAVE AN OUTSIDE AGENCY DO THIS, WHICH I THINK IS THE

PROPER WAY.

I DON'T CARE IF THE REPUBLICANS OR THE DEMOCRATS CONTROL

THE BODY, I DON'T CARE.

AN OUTSIDE BODY SHOULD DO IT FOR EVERYTHING.

I THINK THE WAY WE DO IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IS THE PROPER

WAY BECAUSE IT'S GOT TO BE DONE IN A PROFESSIONAL,

NONPOLITICAL WAY.

I DON'T CARE IF IT'S CONGRESS OR THE SCHOOL BOARD OR




WHEREVER, IT OUGHT TO BE DONE THAT WAY.

I WANT TO SALUTE THE PROCESS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

09:46:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE?

MR. MIRANDA.

09:46:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO THANK MR. SEÑOR GONZALEZ AND

MR. LATIMER, THE BEST SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION I THINK

MAYBE IN THE COUNTRY.

YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IN YOUR DIVISION HAVE DONE A

FANTASTIC JOB.

IF I READ THIS THING CORRECTLY, MY MEMORY IS ABOUT 3.2 TO

LITTLE LESS THAN 5% SHIFT IN THE DISTRICTS.

VERY MINOR PRECINCTS.

NOT -- THE SHIFT THAT MAKES THE OPERATION THING RUN.

CERTAINLY UNDER MR. LATIMER'S LEADERSHIP HAVE ALWAYS DONE

WITHIN THE LAW.

JUST LET ME SAY THIS.

LITTLE EDITORIAL.

IT'S REALLY A SHAME THAT WE DON'T GO VOTE.

WHEN I FIRST STARTED IN THIS OPPORTUNITY AS A COUNCIL

MEMBER AND I WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC FOR GETTING ME

THERE BACK IN THE '70s, WE HAD A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF

VOTERS COMPARED TO THE POPULATION THAT WE HAVE NOW.

WE HAVE MORE POPULATION AND LESS PERCENT OF VOTERS GOING




OUT.

LET ME TELL YOU ANOTHER THING ALSO.

AT THAT TIME, IN ORDER FOR YOU TO VOTE ABSENTEE, THERE

WERE ONLY TWO WAYS YOU GOT AN ABSENTEE.

IF YOU WERE IN THE HOSPITAL OR YOU WERE OUT OF THE

COUNTRY, WAY BACK IN THE '70s.

NOW YOU CAN REGISTER AND GET YOUR VOTE BY MAIL AND MAIL

IT BACK AND EVEN THEN, WE HAVE A LOWER POPULATION VOTING

THAN WE DID BEFORE.

I'M ASHAMED OF US -- ALL OF US -- FOR THE NOTHING DOING

THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE THAT DIED FOR US IN THE WARS,

THAT COMMITTED ALL THE -- THAT PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN THEIR

LIVES FOR AND WE STILL DON'T GO OUT AND VOTE.

WE HAVE TO WAKE UP.

DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO ME IF YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT,

REPUBLICAN OR WHATEVER.

GO OUT AND VOTE.

IF THE ONLY THING WE HAVE LEFT IN DEMOCRACY, HOWEVER THAT

SAID, FIGHT LIKE HELL IF THEY WANT TO TAKE THAT RIGHT

AWAY FROM THE CITIZENS FOR WHATEVER REASON.

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DROP IT IN THE MAIL.

AT THE TIME WAY BACK IN THE '70s, THEY WOULD MAIL YOU

THE APPLICATION TO VOTE, THE BALLOT, BUT YOU HAD TO PUT

THE STAMP ON IT AND SEND IT BACK.




EVEN NOW, WHEN THEY PAY THE POSTAGE BOTH WAYS WE STILL

SIT HOME AND THEN COMPLAIN.

DON'T COMPLAIN UNLESS YOU GO OUT TO VOTE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:48:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CITRO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

09:48:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WORDS WELL SAID.

THINGS CHANGE, AND NOW WE HAVE A MAJOR SPEED BUMP WITHIN

OUR ELECTION PROCESS.

CALLED SENATE BILL 90.

I HAD A SIDEBAR CONVERSATION WITH MR. LATIMER ABOUT THAT.

MR. LATIMER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK, YOUR CONTINUED

SUCCESS, THE BEST SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS IN THE STATE.

THANK YOU, MY FRIEND.

I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH YOU AND YOUR ASSOCIATE

HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:49:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL COMMENTS TAKEN VERY WELL.

THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS RUNS VERY WELL.

THE OLD SHERIFF CAPTAIN HAS A HANDLE ON HOW TO GET THINGS

MOVING.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

LET ME SAY THIS, ESPECIALLY TO MY COMMUNITIES.

DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THE DISEASE IF YOU DON'T WANT THE

CURE.




DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THE DISEASE IF YOU DON'T WANT THE

CURE.

DON'T COMPLAIN WE DON'T DO THIS, DON'T GET THAT.

IF YOU'RE NOT VOTING, HOW ARE YOU EXERCISING YOUR RIGHTS

TO GET WHAT YOU WANT TO GET?

WE HAVE TO VOTE.

SIMPLE, SIMPLE, SIMPLE.

A BALLOT SEND BACK IN.

MR. MIRANDA SAID IT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT A STAMP ON IT.

IT'S FREE.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND GIVING US

INFORMATION.

MR. GONZALEZ, I HOPE YOU'LL CONTACT MY OFFICE SO WE CAN

SET AN APPOINTMENT TO TALK ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES AT A

FUTURE DATE, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

09:50:14 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:50:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE'LL GO ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

GET THE FIRST SPEAKER UP.

HOW MANY DO WE HAVE DOWN THERE THIS MORNING, SIR?

09:50:30 >> WE HAVE FIVE TODAY.

09:50:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
FIVE.

THANK YOU, SIR.




SANCHEZ.

09:50:40 >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS SANDY SANCHEZ.

I LIVE AT 2705 WEST FIG STREET IN THE ARMORY GARDENS

COMMUNITY.

FIRST, LET ME THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNANIMOUS SUPPORT OF THE

VILA BROTHERS PARK.

BUT I AM HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP IN GETTING CONSISTENT

INFORMATION FROM THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

I HAD SENT EACH OF YOU A COPY OF THE ISSUES AS I KNEW

THREE MINUTES WOULD NOT COVER THE ITEM.

I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO HELP IN GETTING ANSWERS TO

REQUESTS I MADE TO CITY PLANNING AND THE ZONING

DEPARTMENT TO EXPLAIN WHY A DESIGN EXCEPTION THAT WAS

DENIED ON SEPTEMBER 9 WAS MIRACULOUSLY APPROVED THREE

DAYS LATER.

THE ARMORY GARDENS COMMUNITY WANTS TO KNOW WHY THIS

DEVELOPER CONTINUES TO BE REWARDED BY THE CITY FOR

IGNORING THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY AND PUTTING THE SAFETY OF

OUR COMMUNITY IN JEOPARDY.

THIS IS THE THIRD HOME IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS THAT THE

BUILDER HAS BEEN GIVEN A PASS TO BUILD WHATEVER HE WANTS

DISREGARDING CITY ORDINANCE.

AND THAT IS JUST IN ONE COMMUNITY.

THE COMMUNITY HAS ASKED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO




RECONSIDER THEIR DECISION AND GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL

DECISION TO DENY, AND THEY HAVE SAID NO.

DO YOU KNOW THAT THE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS DO NOT REQUIRE

PUBLIC NEIGHBORHOOD NOTICES BY EITHER LETTER OR YARD

PLACARD?

THE NEIGHBOR HAS TO KEEP UP WITH MONTHLY PUBLICATIONS

FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD

FROM THE DEVELOPERS AND THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

I'M NOT HERE TO ASK YOU TO DEBATE THE DECISION, BUT THE

PROCESS.

I'M HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP IN GETTING CLEAR AND

CONCISE ANSWERS AS TO WHY THIS DEVELOPER IS SO PRIVILEGED

AS TO BE ABLE TO BUILD WHATEVER HE WANTS AND THE CITY

ORDINANCE BE DAMNED.

IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE ASKED THE ZONING DEPARTMENT FOR

A CLEAR DEFINITION OF AN ALLEY THAT IS INACCESSIBLE.

I DOUBT IF OVERGROWN WEEDS ARE PART OF THAT DEFINITION.

SO, AGAIN, WE ASK WHY THIS DECISION WAS CHANGED AND HOW

WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN DEFEND OURSELVES AGAINST THE CITY'S

PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE DEVELOPER'S THAT IGNORE THE

GUIDELINES.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

09:53:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HAVING HEARD WHAT MS. SANCHEZ SAID

AND THE FRUSTRATION, WHAT WOULD BE THE CORRECT PROCESS?

PERHAPS UNDER NEW BUSINESS ASK FOR SOMEBODY FROM THAT




DEPARTMENT TO BRING US CLARIFICATION AS TO IF WE HAVE

ORDINANCES AND RULES IN PLACE, WHY PEOPLE, FROM WHAT HAS

BEEN SAID, PEOPLE ARE SKIRTING BY THESE RULES AND GETTING

APPROVALS, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE RIGHT BY OUR CODE AND

BY OUR RULES.

09:53:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I BELIEVE I MADE A MOTION A WHILE AGO IN

REFERENCE TO COME BACK TO US IN REFERENCE TO THOSE TYPE

OF SITUATIONS, HOW THERE ARE DENIALS AND THEN ALL OF A

SUDDEN THEY CHANGE AND WE DON'T KNOW OR APPROVED TO GO

THROUGH.

I THINK THAT'S SUPPOSED TO COME BACK SOON.

I DID MAKE A MOTION MAYBE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

09:54:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'LL CONFIRM THAT.

WE SHOULD KNOW BY NEW BUSINESS.

THANK YOU.

09:54:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MIRANDA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

09:54:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MS. SANCHEZ, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE

AND TAKING YOUR TIME FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

YOU HAVEN'T BROUGHT THE SPECIFIC REMARKS, WHO IS THE

DEVELOPER AND WHAT WAS IT VIOLATED?

FOR US TO CALL THE DEPARTMENT, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU CAME

AND SPOKE TO US, YOU HAVE TO TELL US WHAT IT WAS THAT

THEY OVERTURNED WITHOUT US KNOWING SO WE CAN TELL THEM

WHAT'S GOING ON AND FIND OUT WHAT THE REASON WAS.

09:54:35 >> MR. MIRANDA, I SENT YOU ALL AN E-MAIL DETAILING THE




DESCRIPTION OF THIS.

I CHOSE NOT TO USE THE DEVELOPER'S NAME PUBLICLY BECAUSE

I DON'T WANT TO DEFAME HIM.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.

THE ISSUE IS SIMPLE.

THE DEVELOPER ASKED FOR DENIAL BECAUSE THE ALLEY WAS

BLOCKED.

IT WAS INACCESSIBLE.

IN THE MEANTIME, THE CITY CAME THROUGH WITH A RIDING LAWN

MOWER, AND A MACHETE, AND CLEARED THE ALLEY.

I DROVE THROUGH THE ALLEY WITH MY HONDA PILOT, WHICH IS

NOT A SMALL CAR.

I CALLED THE ZONING DEPARTMENT.

I ALSO SENT IN PICTURES.

THEY SENT SOMEBODY IN FROM THE DEPARTMENT.

I BELIEVE IT WAS URBAN DESIGN.

HE DROVE THROUGH THE ALLEY.

HE WENT BACK AND DENIED THE CLAIM, THE PETITIONER SENT

OUT A LETTER AND THREE DAYS LATER HE HAD A PERMIT TO

BUILD.

THAT'S THE ISSUE.

09:55:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOW WE HAVE SOMETHING TO GO ON.

THANK YOU.

09:55:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

09:55:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.




THANK YOU, MS. SANCHEZ.

I'VE GOT THE E-MAIL IN FRONT OF ME AND MR. MANISCALCO I

GUESS LATER ON WHEN WE DO NEW BUSINESS AND YOU BRING UP

THAT MOTION, WHICH I THINK IS AN APPROPRIATE MOTION

TAILORED TO THIS WEST TAMPA ISSUE, IT MIGHT BE

DUPLICATIVE OF WHAT MR. CHAIRMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT

WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT.

THE OTHER POINT THAT I THINK WE NEED TO RAISE, GUIDO, IS

NOTICE.

I THINK MS. SANCHEZ BROUGHT UP A VERY GOOD POINT AND I'VE

HEARD THIS FROM THAN AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN REGARD TO

DESIGN EXCEPTIONS.

SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THIS COUNCIL DELEGATED A LOT OF ITS

ZONING RESPONSIBILITY TO STAFF THROUGH THE DESIGN

EXCEPTION PROCESS.

IT ACTUALLY IS A LITTLE BIT OF A SURPRISE TO ME.

AND I APOLOGIZE.

I WASN'T HERE, I DON'T THINK, WHEN WE DID THAT.

THAT MAILED NOTICE AND POSTING IS NOT PART OF THAT

PROCESS BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT EVEN IN A DESIGN

EXCEPTION, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE,

BUT THAT RIGHT IS KIND OF MEANINGLESS IF WE DON'T HAVE

GOOD NOTICE AND POSTING.

I THINK WE'LL TAG ON TO YOUR MOTION LATER, GUIDO, AND

WE'LL GET LEGAL TO EXPLORE EXPANDED NOTICE, I THINK.




THANK YOU, SANDY.

09:57:05 >> THE OTHER ISSUE IS WHEN YOU DO GO TO THE PUBLICATION

ON CORE, LIKE I SAID, IT IS SENT TO ALL COMMUNITY LEADERS

TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW, BUT IT'S AN ABBREVIATED REQUEST.

IN OTHER WORDS, THIS SAID ALLEY ACCESS, BUT HE HAD ALSO

COMPLAINED THAT HE WAS THE ONLY ONE ON THAT BLOCK THAT

WOULD HAVE THE ALLEY ACCESS.

AND HE IS CORRECT.

HE IS THE FIRST DEVELOPER THAT'S DEMOLISHED ONE OF OUR

QUAINT BUNGALOWS.

OF COURSE, THERE'S NO ALLEY ACCESS FOR THE OLDER HOMES.

BUT HAD HE LOOKED ACROSS THE STREET, HE WOULD HAVE

NOTICED THAT ALL OF THE HOMES ACROSS THE STREET, EVEN IF

THEY HAVE A DRIVEWAY, THEY ALL HAVE ALLEY ACCESS.

THEY USE THE ALLEY BECAUSE THE DRIVEWAYS ARE TOO SHORT.

IT'S ALL PART OF THE WHOLE PICTURE.

09:57:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MS. SANCHEZ, I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU

OFF, BUT NORMALLY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WE DON'T ASK

QUESTIONS.

BECAUSE THIS IS AN ISSUE DEALING WITH ZONING ISSUES,

THAT'S WHY COUNCIL MEMBERS CHIMED IN.

I'LL CUT YOU OFF AT THIS TIME.

MR. MANISCALCO WILL MAKE A MOTION A LITTLE LATER ON TO

GET MORE INFORMATION.

AT THAT TIME, COUNCIL WILL PROBABLY REACH OUT TO YOU.




WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

09:58:19 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

09:58:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER.

STATE YOUR NAME, MA'AM AND BEGIN SPEAKING.

09:58:45 >> HI.

SUZANNE SIRWALKER.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF LUTZ FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS.

IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL TO WATCH MY COMMUNITY GROW IN SO MANY

WAYS IN THAT TIME.

USF HAS A FOOTBALL TEAM.

TAMPA HAS CHAMPIONSHIP HOCKEY, SOCCER, FOOTBALL, AND SOON

TO BE BASEBALL.

GO RAYS.

I WATCH THESE THINGS THAT HAVE GONE FROM AN IDEA TO A

REALITY TO CHAMPIONS.

OUR DOWNTOWN WATERFRONT AREA HAS GROWN TO BECOME A

BEAUTIFUL OUTDOOR SPACE FOR BOTH OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR

VISITORS.

HOW WE HAVE GROWN.

UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT HAS NOT CHANGED OVER THESE 25 YEARS

ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES AFFORDED TO WOMEN TO SERVE OUR

COMMUNITY AS FIREFIGHTERS.

BECOMING A FIREFIGHTER IS A TOUGH PATH FOR ANYONE TO

PURSUE, BUT ONCE ACHIEVED, THE HURDLES FOR WOMEN ARE THAT




MUCH HARDER THAN THEY ARE FOR MEN.

THERE ARE VERY FEW WOMEN FIREFIGHTERS IN TAMPA BAY, WHICH

MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR WOMEN FIREFIGHTERS TO FEEL LIKE

THEY ARE PART OF THE TEAM.

WHILE IT MAY BE DIFFICULT TO CHANGE THE MASCULINE CULTURE

OF FIRE FIGHTING RIGHT NOW, OUR TAMPA CITY COUNCIL CAN

CHANGE THE STRUCTURE IN WHICH WOMEN FIREFIGHTERS LIVE

WHILE THEY ARE HOUSED WITH THEIR COLLEAGUES.

ONE, WE CAN SUPPORT WOMEN FIREFIGHTERS BY HAVING EITHER

SEPARATE BATHROOMS OR SINGLE-USE BATHROOMS WITHIN THE

NEXT FIVE YEARS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

TWO, WE CAN ESTABLISH RULES THAT ACCOMMODATE WOMEN

FIREFIGHTERS WHO ARE PREGNANT.

WOMEN FIREFIGHTERS NEED ACCOMMODATIONS THAT ENABLE THEM

TO BE PREGNANT SAFELY.

THIS MEANS THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THEIR SHIFT

WHILE PROTECTING THEMSELVES AND THEIR UNBORN CHILD WHILE

KEEPING THE SCHEDULE THAT THEY'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED.

THEY SHOULDN'T BE SEPARATED FROM THEIR TEAM BECAUSE THEY

ARE PREGNANT AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE ASKED TO DO DIFFERENT

JOBS THAN THEY NORMALLY WOULD.

WE CAN ACCOMMODATE -- THREE, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE OUR

FIREFIGHTER MOTHERS.

MOTHER FIREFIGHTERS NEED TO BE ABLE TO BREAST FEED THEIR

CHILDREN, AND THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO PUMP IN A PRIVATE




PLACE.

WE NEED TO MAKE THIS AVAILABLE FOR THEM AS DOCTORS WILL

TELL YOU THAT BREAST MILK IS THE BEST WAY AND MOST

NUTRITIOUS WAY TO FEED YOUR CHILD.

THESE ARE A VERY FEW BUT IMPORTANT ACCOMMODATIONS THAT

WILL SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE TO YOUNG WOMEN AND GIRLS WITHIN

OUR TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY THAT FIREFIGHTERS WELCOME THEIR

TALENTS.

WHEN MORE YOUNG GIRLS AND WOMEN SEE THE COMMITMENT FROM

OUR COMMUNITY THAT ACCOMMODATES THE NEWS OF BOTH MEN AND

WOMEN, THEN MORE YOUNG WOMEN WILL EMBRACE FIRE FIGHTING

AS A CAREER.

THE ENTIRE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY BENEFITS WITH A SPECIAL

TALENTS, SKILLS AND INSIGHTS --

10:01:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

10:01:55 >> -- THAT BOTH WOMEN AND MEN BRING TO THE TEAM.

10:01:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

10:01:59 >> YOU'VE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN WE MIGHT GET BATHROOMS

OR PRIVACY WHILE BREAST FEEDING?

10:02:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK THE CHIEF IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT

THAT ITEM LATER ON THIS AFTERNOON.

10:02:09 >> OOH, I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

10:02:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT.

THANK YOU.




10:02:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
STATE YOUR NAME.

10:02:42 >> TANJA VIDOVIC.

I'M HERE IN RELATION TO ITEM 63.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE CAN AMEND CONTRACTS EVEN

TODAY.

AGENDA ITEM 21 IS AMENDING THE UNION CONTRACT.

SO I CAME HERE DURING THE LAST MEETING WHERE THIS WAS

GOING TO BE DISCUSSED.

I GUESS IT GOT PUT ONTO THIS ONE TO SPEAK ABOUT TEN

DIFFERENT ITEMS WHICH I E-MAILED YOU ALL ON.

I WANTED TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL WITH THEM.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT THE CHIEF HAS TO SAY.

HOPEFULLY SHE MAKES PLANS TO DO ALL OF THESE THINGS.

AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HER REPORT WILL SEE.

I WANT TO REITERATE THE NEED FOR A FIVE-YEAR PLAN TO ADD

WOMEN'S BATHROOMS TO ALL THE STATIONS THAT DO NOT HAVE

THEM AND STATIONS MOVING FORWARD BE SINGLE USER.

THIS IS NOT A NEW REQUEST.

I'VE BEEN MAKING THIS REQUEST FOR 12 YEARS THROUGH THREE

DIFFERENT FIRE CHIEFS AND FOUR DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS.

JUST TO -- IT IS AN ISSUE.

WHEN I WAS PREGNANT, I WAS LOCKED OUT OF BATHROOMS FOR

TWO-PLUS HOURS.

THE ONLY BATHROOM I WAS THEN PERMITTED TO USE WAS INSIDE

OF MY CAPTAIN'S PRIVATE BEDROOM, WHICH WAS VERY




UNCOMFORTABLE AND I WAS OFTEN DENIED ACCESS.

SO LUCKILY I'M NOT WITH THAT CAPTAIN ANYMORE, BUT

SOMEBODY IS.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AVAILABLE.

ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP ALMOST A HUNDRED THOUSAND

DOLLARS IN FLOORING WAS JUST INSTALLED THIS PAST MONTH AT

STATION 1.

THAT'S NOT EVEN INCLUDING THE NEW PAINT THAT THE ENTIRE

FLOOR IS GETTING.

NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING A MATTER WITH COSMETICS BUT

WHAT I'M HEARING IS FLOORING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN

WOMEN.

WOMEN HAVE BEEN ON THE JOB WITH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE FOR 43

YEARS.

AGAIN, I'M NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS ME MYSELF COMING IN AND SPEAKING.

BUT WE'VE BEEN ON THE JOB FOR 43 YEARS.

IT'S TIME FOR US TO HAVE BATHROOMS.

WHEN WE HAVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN BUDGETS FOR

DRIVEWAYS AND NOT WOMEN'S BATHROOMS, FOR LANDSCAPING, FOR

EXERCISE EQUIPMENT.

I'M HEARING THAT ALL THOSE THINGS ARE MORE IMPORTANT.

IT'S TIME THAT WE GET BATHROOMS.

MENTAL HEALTH SICK DAYS THAT ARE NON-PENALIZED IS

EXTREMELY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW.




I'M SURE ALL OF YOU KNOW WHY.

WITH DEPRESSION AND SUICIDE AND PTSD BEING INCREASED,

ESPECIALLY IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE OF THE TRAUMA

THAT WE SEE.

WE NEED ACCESS.

WE NEED MORE THAN JUST DR. WOOD MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO

A BUNCH OF THERAPISTS THAT EITHER DON'T KNOW ANYTHING

ABOUT FIRE RESCUE OR POLICE OR THEY ARE NOT TAKING NEW

PATIENTS OR THEY ARE NOT EVEN IN NETWORK.

WE REALLY NEED TO DO BETTER ON THAT.

WOMEN-SPECIFIC GEAR, INCLUDING TURNOUT GEAR.

GLOBE MAKES WOMEN GEAR.

THE GEAR THAT WAS MEASURED FOR ME, THE NECK WENT ABOVE MY

EYES.

I'M IN ALMOST EXPIRED GEAR.

THE POCKET IS COVERED BY THE SBA.

DOESN'T CINCH ALL THE WAY TIGHT SO ALL THE WEIGHT IS ON

THE SHOULDER.

IF THERE'S WOMEN-SPECIFIC GEAR OUT THERE --

10:05:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I'M GOING TO CUT YOU OFF.

MR. DINGFELDER HAS A QUESTION.

WE HAVE A TIGHT SCHEDULE.

MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

10:05:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I ACTUALLY APOLOGIZE.

I DIDN'T HAVE A QUESTION.




I DID WANT TO THANK MS. VIDOVIC FOR HER SERVICE AND

BRINGING THE IMPORTANT ISSUES UP TO THE COUNCIL AND THE

CITY.

WE'LL GET INTO THIS ON ITEM 63.

WE'LL GET INTO THAT DISCUSSION MORE.

WHILE YOU'RE HERE, I DID WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOU FOR YOUR

VALUABLE SERVICE TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND TO THE CITY.

IT'S SORT OF HARD TO BELIEVE THAT HERE WE ARE IN 2021.

WE HAVE A FEMALE MAYOR.

WE HAVE A FEMALE FIRE CHIEF.

WE HAVE WOMEN WHO RUN PROBABLY MORE THAN HALF THE MAJOR

DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY.

THERE WAS AN ARTICLE ABOUT THAT IN THE NEWSPAPER, AND

THEY ALL DO A FANTASTIC JOB.

MUCH BETTER THAN GUYS, I'M SURE.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE, IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT WE HAVEN'T

EQUIPPED OUR FIRE STATIONS TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

THERE ARE OTHER IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT I KNOW YOU WANT TO

ADDRESS.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT AT 63 AND WE'RE GOING TO

STAY ON IT BECAUSE IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND IT'S WAY

OVERDUE.

10:07:13 >> OKAY.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I E-MAILED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU THE COPY OF MY TEN




MOST IMPORTANT ITEMS THAT I THINK NEED TO BE ADDRESSED

RIGHT AWAY.

I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE CHIEF'S REPORT.

AND I'M HOPING THAT YOU ALL CAN COME TO A COMPROMISE TO

GET ALL THIS ACCOMPLISHED.

10:07:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.

10:07:30 >> THANK YOU.

10:07:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NEXT SPEAKER.

10:07:55 >> HELLO.

I AM SOVEREIGN DESPOT KING JOHNNY BERNARD BOOTH.

I AM THE MAIN GOVERNMENT OF ALL GOVERNMENTS THROUGHOUT

THE ENTIRE GLOBE.

I'M HERE TO PRESENT THIS.

SOVEREIGN WORLDWIDE GLOBAL AMERICAN KINGDOM, CAPITAL,

SLASH, GLOBAL HEADQUARTERS, TAMPA, TAMPA BAY.

WORLDWIDE FORCES.

ALREADY IN UNITED NATIONS.

I HAVE CAMPAIGN IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING NOW, BLUE STAR AND

CORRUPT CORPORATION NOW.

FOR THE WORD STATE, DEEP STATE, IMPLIES MODERN DAY

ENSLAVERY AND PRACTICE CARRYING OUT JIM CROW POLICY,

FRAUDULENTLY -- FALSE LAW.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR RELEASE OUT-OF-STATE IDENTIFICATION

CARD, WHICH IS A CARD THAT IS BINDING, ENSLAVING CARD.

I AM HERE -- I HEREBY INVOKE ALL INDIVIDUALS SOVEREIGNTY




ENTITLEMENTS.

THIS IS NOT A PRIVILEGE.

THIS IS AN ENTITLEMENT, MEANING IT HAS TO BE DONE BECAUSE

IT IS DONE BY LAW.

WITH THIS FORM RIGHT HERE, IT SAYS TO WHOM IT MAY

CONCERN.

WHEN GIVING AUTHORIZATION, KING DESPOT JOHNNY BOOTH.

THIS LETTER CONFIRMS THE BELOW LISTED PERSONS, HOMELESS,

HOUSELESS, RESIDENTS LIVING STATUS AS DETERMINED BY

SLEEPING ANYPLACE NOT MEANT FOR HUMAN HABITATION, SUCH AS

CAR, PARKS, ABANDONED BUILDINGS, STREETS, SIDEWALKS,

RENTING AND LEASING DEBTOR AS OF TODAY'S DATE.

THIS IS NOT A VOUCHER.

THERE IS NO CASH VALUE.

NAMED ALL CITIZENS, CITIZENS, MEMBERS, RESIDENTS,

TRAVELERS, EMPLOYEES, PERSONS, PERSONNEL.

ACT OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING, DISRUPTING GOVERNMENT, UNDER

FLORIDA STATUTE, STATE STATUTE, MEANING THAT ANYTIME THEY

CONTINUE TO TRY TO USE A STATUTE THEY ARE COMMITTING

HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE EVERYTHING SIGNED OFF CORRECTLY.

SOVEREIGN AUTHORITY GLOBAL AMERICA HOMELAND SECURITY.

CHIEF COMMANDER, OFFICIAL PRESIDENT, MAYOR, DESPOT, MOST

HIGH LIVING ENTITY, JUDGE, PRIEST, SHAMAN, CHIEF, KING,

MAIN TRUE LIVING GOVERNMENT, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRST




RESPONDER, SECURED CREDITOR, SOLE GIVER LAWFUL LAW,

CURRENCY, R+, LIVE AGENT.

I SIGNED OFF WITH MY INITIALS.

I AM KING.

10:11:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

10:11:08 >> UHURU.

UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.

WE SAY WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING

ABOUT OUR FREEDOM.

WHEN I HEARD THIS THING THIS MORNING ON THE VOTING AND

REDISTRICTING AND DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THE

POLITICIANS SAY THEY FEEL DISAPPOINTED BY THE PEOPLE NOT

PARTICIPATING FROM THE '70s TO RIGHT NOW TO DISTRICT 5.

COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED DISTRICT 5 IN PARTICULAR AND

PEOPLE NOT VOTING AND WHAT THEY SHOULDN'T SPEAK.

IF WHATEVER, WHATEVER.

BUT POLITICIANS ARE LIKE ENTERTAINERS.

HEY, CAN THEY HOLD MY TIME?

AND IF THEY CAN HOLD THE NOISE DOWN OUTSIDE, PLEASE.

10:12:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
COULD THE PERSON IN CHARGE ON THE CROWD

-- SO THE SPEAKER CAN SPEAK, PLEASE?

10:13:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY

COUNCIL ATTORNEY, I ALSO HEARD A COMMENT FROM SOMEBODY

SAYING IT'S DIFFICULT HEARING FROM THE SPEAKERS ON THE




SECOND FLOOR FROM THE SCREENS.

IF WHOEVER CAN DO THAT, CTTV CAN ADJUST THAT VOLUME SO

THAT PEOPLE CAN HEAR CLEARLY AND THAT WAY THEY WON'T

MAYBE OVER --

10:13:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
OKAY, MR. MENTESNOT, YOU CAN CONTINUE,

SIR.

10:13:45 >> IF THEY CAN HOLD MY TIME, IT'S INTERESTING, PEOPLE

COME TO THE MEETING TO BE INVOLVED IN THE MEETING, AND

THEN THEY WATCH WHAT PEOPLE WEAR AND WHAT THEY SAY, BUT

THEY CAN'T CONTROL THE MEETING.

THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT PROCESS.

THERE'S SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY WRONG WITH THAT

PROCESS.

BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, AS GETTING BACK ON MY

TIME, POLITICIANS ARE LIKE ENTERTAINERS.

THEY ARE LIKE LITTLE CHILDREN WHO LIKE ATTENTION.

THEY LIKE ANY KIND OF ATTENTION.

THAT'S WHY THEY TELL YOU TO GO OUT AND VOTE.

BUT IT'S YOUR RIGHT NOT TO VOTE.

SO WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?

OKAY?

AND ANY AFRICAN PERSON VOTING -- LISTEN TO ME

CAREFULLY -- ANY BLACK PERSON VOTING IS A DAMN FOOL.

ANY BLACK PERSON PARTICIPATING IN THAT VOTING PROCESS IS

A FOOL BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE LEGITIMIZING




YOUR OPPRESSION.

YOU'RE LEGITIMIZING YOUR OPPRESSION.

WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE.

WE NEED TO OVERTURN THIS SYSTEM.

WE NEED TO OVERTURN THIS GARBAGE SYSTEM.

OUR CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT 5 SITS

THERE AND SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY.

AND YOU ALL NAME CALL AFRICAN PEOPLE AND PUT US DOWN IN

THE WORST WAY YOU POSSIBLY CAN.

SAY WE GOT POVERTY MENTALITY, WE GOT OTHER THINGS.

WE GOT BLACK AND BLACK CRIME, WHICH IS WHITE-INDUCED

CRIME, AND THEY DON'T SAY HOLD THE GUN MANUFACTURERS

AVAILABLE OR ACCOUNTABLE OR ANYTHING OF THAT.

YOU UNDERSTAND?

THEY SAY ALL KIND OF NASTY THINGS ABOUT AFRICAN PEOPLE

BECAUSE IT'S AFRICAN HATRED.

IT'S BLACK HATRED.

621 YEARS OF FREE LABOR AND FREE RESOURCES.

621 YEARS OF FREE LABOR AND FREE RESOURCES.

THEN THEY TELL US PULL OURSELVES UP BY THE BOOTSTRAPS.

THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT REPARATIONS.

THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT WHERE 26% OF THE POPULATION AND WE

NEED TWENTY -- OF THE BUSINESS AND THE GOVERNMENT ACTION

THAT COMES THROUGH THIS CITY.

NO, THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT.




THEY TALK ABOUT HATING ON AFRICAN PEOPLE.

IT IS A CERTAIN KIND OF HATE THEY HAVE FOR THE BLACK

SKIN.

A CERTAIN KIND OF HATE THEY HAVE FOR IT.

AND THIS HAVE TO END.

AND THE SIX WHITE PEOPLE THAT SITTING UP THERE, IT HAVE

TO END.

AND PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN DETECT RACISM.

IT'S A MAN JUST GOT UP HERE THAT'S TALKING ABOUT VOTING

AND TALKING ABOUT REDISTRICTING AND YOU CAN HARDLY EVEN

UNDERSTAND THE MAN.

HE SPEAKS VERY, VERY, VERY LITTLE ENGLISH.

BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS EVERY WORD ON THE

TelePrompTer IS ACTUALLY CORRECT.

WHY IS THAT?

BECAUSE THEY DON'T SPEND ANY MONEY WHEN BLACK PEOPLE GET

UP HERE AND SPEAK.

30% OF THE WORDS, IT'S NOT BEING TRANSFERRED CORRECTLY.

WHY IS THAT?

BECAUSE THEY DON'T SPEND ANY MONEY IN THE EQUIPMENT.

IT'S JUST LIKE THE FACIAL RECOGNITION.

IT SAY, HEY, DON'T RECOGNIZE BLACK PEOPLE.

THEY DON'T SPEND ANY MONEY ON US.

AND THAT'S WHAT POLITICIANS WANT US TO VOTE FOR.

WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR THAT PEOPLE.




YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEEL DEMORALIZED.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEEL DEMORALIZED.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEEL PUT DOWN.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEEL LESS THAT YOU ARE BLACK BECAUSE

YOU ARE AFRICAN.

FEEL PROUD AND BE BLACK AND PROUD.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

THANK YOU.

10:16:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HOW MANY SPEAKERS?

IS THIS THE LAST SPEAKER?

10:16:51 >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.

THE FIRST SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE STEPHANIE POYNOR.

STEPHANIE, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:17:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE CAN HEAR YOU.

10:17:06 >> GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT I'M HERE TO SUPPORT SOMETHING IN

OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.

NUMBER 59, I SUPPORT THE VACATION OF REMBRANDT STREET TO

SAFELY EXPAND THE CAMPUS OF ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL.

WE'RE GETTING 4877 APARTMENTS.

WE KNOW WE'RE GETTING MORE THAN THAT, BUT THOSE ARE MY

NUMBERS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE SPACE.




BESIDES, WE DON'T WANT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TO TRY AND

SELL THE LOT THAT IS SOUTH OF REMBRANDT.

WE WANT IT TO BE PART OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.

10:17:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MS. POYNOR, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.

MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

NUMBER 59 IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THE ITEMS SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING GET TAKEN UP AT THAT

TIME, NOT DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE IT'S

QUASI-JUDICIAL.

10:18:00 >> WHOO-HOO!

CAN I COME BACK THEN?

I DID SIGN UP FOR IT.

10:18:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SURE.

10:18:06 >> I HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY.

OKAY.

I'LL LEAVE THAT FOR LATER.

WHILE I'M HERE, I WANT TO SUPPORT THE CONTINUED USE OF

CMT, NOT JUST FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BUT FOR CITY STAFF.

THERE IS A HUGE INCREASE IN PRODUCTIVITY BECAUSE OF THE.

WHILE I LOVE TO SEE YOU ALL IN PERSON, NOT EVERYONE HAS A

FLEXIBLE SCHEDULE TO SIT DOWNTOWN ALL DAY TO SPEAK FOR

THREE MINUTES ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IMPACTS THEIR

COMMUNITY, NEIGHBORHOOD, OR PERSONAL HOME.

PLEASE TAKE A LITTLE NOTE FROM THE VRB AND START BRINGING

SPEAKERS UPSTAIRS IN SMALL GROUPS IN ORDER TO SPEAK.




IT IS LOUD DOWNSTAIRS, AND IT'S VERY DISTRACTING WHEN

YOU'RE TRYING TO SPEAK.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE VRB, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO PAY ANY

ATTENTION.

FAST-FORWARD THROUGH A VRB MEETING AND THEY BRING THEM UP

IN SMALL GROUPS AS THEIR ASSIGNMENT COMES UP.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I 100% SUPPORT SANDY SANCHEZ IN ALL

OF HER STATEMENTS.

THE CARES NEWSLETTER COMES LATE IN THE MONTH.

THIS MONTH IT CAME ON THE 4th.

BUT I HAVE RECEIVED IT AS LATE AS THE 22nd OF THE

MONTH.

THEY HAVE GOTTEN BETTER.

BUT IF YOU CHECK OUT THE DOCUMENT, IT DOESN'T SAY WHEN

MANY OF THESE ITEMS ARE HEARD.

FOR EXAMPLE, THIS MONTH, THERE ARE EIGHT PAGES OF

NOTIFICATION.

FIVE OF THOSE PAGES HAVE NO DATES ON THEM.

SO WHO -- WHEN AM I SUPPOSED TO BE SOMEWHERE?

WHEN AM I SUPPOSED TO SAY SOMETHING?

I'VE ASKED TO BE INCLUDED ON THIS E-MAIL ON A HALF A

DOZEN DIFFERENT OCCASIONS.

I STILL DID NOT RECEIVE IT THIS MONTH.

MS. SANCHEZ SENT IT TO ME.

LAST NIGHT, I SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME SHARING THE




INFORMATION FROM THE CARES NEWSLETTERS WITH NEIGHBORHOOD

LEADERS.

FROM THEIR REPLIES, IT'S EXTREMELY OBVIOUS THAT THEY ARE

NOT RECEIVING IT EITHER.

WHY HAVE A DOCUMENT?

WHY IS EVERYTHING HIDDEN?

WHY DO WE HAVE TO SEARCH OUT THE ANSWERS?

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.

THANK YOU, HAVE A GOOD DAY.

10:20:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.

10:20:10 >>THE CLERK:
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE CARROLL ANN

BENNETT.

IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU

HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:20:18 >> HI.

I'M UP IN RURAL GEORGIA, SO MY RECEPTION IS PRETTY BAD.

I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS CAN HEAR ME.

JUST QUICKLY, I WANT TO SAY, ECHO WHAT STEPHANIE SAID

ABOUT CMT.

IT'S AN EXCELLENT RESOURCE.

IT MAKES IT SO MUCH EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE.

FOR INSTANCE, LIKE I SAID RIGHT NOW, I'M IN RURAL

GEORGIA, AND I THINK IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR STAFF.

THEY GET A LOT MORE WORK DONE, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY FOR

THE IN-PERSON PART, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO STUDY HOW




THE VRB DOES IT.

WE SPOKE RECENTLY TO VRB AND THEIR METHOD WORKED

EXTREMELY WELL.

IT WAS VERY EFFICIENT.

AND I THINK IT WAS BETTER.

A COMBINATION OF IN-PERSON LIKE THE VRB DOES IT AND

COMBINATION OF CMT I THINK WOULD BE THE BEST OF BOTH

WORLDS.

THE OTHER THING I HEARD MR. SHELBY SAY, TO COMMENT ON

ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL LATER.

I'LL TRY TO DO THAT.

THE OTHER THING TALK ABOUT IS THE EL PRADO COMPLETE

STREETS.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW EXCITED I AM ABOUT THIS AND HOW THE

NEIGHBORHOOD IS EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL IDEA, AND EL PRADO HAS A

LOT LESS TRAFFIC THAN YOU.

ALSO A LOT MORE SHADE, AND MAKING THIS A COMPLETE STREET,

IT WOULD BE A BEAUTIFUL THING.

I URGE YOU GUYS TO ALL VOTE YES FOR IT.

I GUESS THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY TODAY.

THANK YOU.

10:21:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.

10:21:46 >>THE CLERK:
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE MICHAEL

RANDOLPH.




MICHAEL, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:21:55 >> YES.

HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

10:21:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES, SIR.

10:21:59 >> THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE

THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.

I AM WITH THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT

CORPORATION.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TWO IMPORTANT INITIATIVES THAT ARE

COMING UP.

THE FIRST IS THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY BASED HEALTH

INITIATIVE.

THIS INITIATIVE IMPROVES HEALTH -- HEALTHY LIFESTYLE FROM

BIRTH TO DEATH.

CALLED THE INTERCEPTION OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND COMMUNITY

DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT DO WE KNOW?

YOUNG BLACKS ARE BEING DIAGNOSED WITH DISEASES NORMALLY

ASSOCIATED WITH THE OLD, LIKE CANCER, DIABETES, STROKES,

AND HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE.

WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON HOW DO WE CREATE A HEALTHY

COMMUNITY.

IMPORTANT IS THE NEXT INITIATIVE, WHICH IS THE WEST TAMPA




SAFETY INITIATIVE.

WE'RE GOING TO USE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT APPROACH TO

REDUCING CRIME BY REMOVING BARRIERS AND INCREASING HOPE

ONG THOSE THAT ARE IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THOSE WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS TO

HELP THEM TO GET JOBS, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR THE

FIRST TIME WHAT'S KNOWN AS A COMMUNITY-BASED INITIATIVE

THAT FOCUS ON THOSE THAT ARE RETURNING FROM THE CRIMINAL

JUSTICE SYSTEM.

IT'S GOING TO BE COMMUNITY BASED, MAKING SURE WHEN PEOPLE

COME OUT AND THEY SIGN A SOCIAL CONTRACT.

LASTLY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE WANT TO START TO FOCUS

ON THE YOUTHS ON THE CORNERS.

TALKING ABOUT THE ONES WITH THE GUNS.

THE ONES YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT THE SHOOTINGS AND KILLINGS

GOING ON IN TAMPA AND AROUND THE COUNTRY.

WE HAVE A STRATEGY THAT WE LOOKED AT FROM THE BEST

PRACTICE FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY TO START TO REDUCE THE

VIOLENCE IN THE COMMUNITY.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE

MY PRESENTATION.

AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO SPOKE TODAY.

KEEP COMING OUT.

LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD.

THIS IS YOUR CITY COUNCIL.




THANKS AGAIN.

10:24:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.

HOW MANY MORE SPEAKERS?

10:24:12 >>THE CLERK:
THIS WILL BE THE LAST SPEAKER.

JEAN STROHMEYER, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE

YOURSELF, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

JEAN, ARE YOU THERE?

JEAN STROHMEYER, YOU ARE UP TO SPEAK.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

10:25:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, TECHNICAL

DIFFICULTIES THERE?

ONE MORE SHOT AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON.

10:25:12 >>THE CLERK:
MS. STROHMEYER, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:25:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CITRO, I SAW YOUR HAND UP EARLIER.

MISSED WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.

10:25:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. SANCHEZ IS NO LONGER HERE.

10:25:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

10:25:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO THE

ONE COMMENT.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE THAT TGH COMMENT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

IN REGARD TO VOTING, I AGREE WITH MR. CHAIRMAN AND

EVERYBODY HERE, VOTING IS SO CRITICAL.

VOTING IS SO CRITICAL.

AND I THINK THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS AND THE MAJORITY OF




FOLKS WHO ARE LISTENING BELIEVE IN OUR SYSTEM OF

GOVERNMENT, AND IT'S NOT PERFECT.

OUR GOVERNMENT IS NOT PERFECT BY ANY MEANS.

AND IF IT NEEDS FIXING, THEN PEOPLE NEED TO VOTE AND THEY

NEED TO RUN FOR OFFICE.

IF THEY WANT CHANGE, THEN THAT'S THE WAY WE DO IT IN THIS

COUNTRY.

AND I THINK WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT OF REDISTRICTING,

BUT IT'S JUST TWEAKING AROUND THE EDGES.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE IMPORTANT ELECTIONS, AND

THEY ARE COMING UP NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER.

AND I URGE EVERYBODY TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE REGISTERED AND

MAKE SURE YOU VOTE.

IF YOU WANT CHANGE, THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT.

THANK YOU.

10:26:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IF I MAY, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN

DINGFELDER.

I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

BUT, AGAIN, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT PREEMPTION.

NOW I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT LEGISLATION HAS DONE FROM LAST

YEAR ON SENATE BILL 90.

AND THAT TOOK AWAY THE ABILITY FOR SOME PEOPLE TO PUT

THEIR BALLOTS IN THE BALLOT BOXES.

OUR SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION NOW HAS TO MAN THOSE BALLOT

BOXES, AND WITHOUT THAT, PEOPLE CAN'T USE THE BALLOT BOX.




SO WE ALL NEED TO TAKE A LONG LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON UP

IN TALLAHASSEE AND PLEASE NOTIFY OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND

OUR STATE SENATORS THAT THAT WAS NOT THE GREATEST OF ALL

BILLS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

10:27:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE HER NOW?

10:27:33 >>THE CLERK:
JEAN STROHMEYER, CAN YOU HEAR US?

10:27:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MADAM CLERK, WE NEED TO MOVE ON.

I'M SORRY.

WE'VE GIVEN ENOUGH TIME.

WE KNOW SHE PROBABLY HAS GREAT COMMENTS, BUT WE'RE

RUNNING BEHIND SCHEDULE.

WE NEED TO MOVE THIS TRAIN.

ITEM NUMBER 3.

10:27:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I BELIEVE STAFF MAY BE PRESENT FOR THAT,

MR. CHAIRMAN.

IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS FOR THAT.

10:28:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY COMMENTS FOR STAFF?

STAFF ONLINE?

10:28:06 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

10:28:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE CAN HEAR YOU.

10:28:12 >>McLANE EVANS:
McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

ITEM 3 BEFORE YOU IS FIRST READING TO AMEND CHAPTER 26 TO




INCORPORATE REVISIONS TO CITY'S WASTEWATER DISCHARGE AND

INDUSTRIAL PRETREATMENT STANDARDS TECHNICAL MANUAL.

THESE REVISIONS ARE REQUIRED BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF

ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE

WITH OUR WASTEWATER DISCHARGE PERMITS.

THEY ADDRESS DIFFERENCES WITH PHARMACEUTICAL WASTE

DISCHARGES, SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM FOR LEEWAY AND

CHANGING LANGUAGE.

AFTER THE SECOND READING AND PRESUMED APPROVAL OF THIS

ORDINANCE, IT WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE ONCE -- HAS GIVEN

FINAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL ON THE MANUAL ITSELF THAT WILL

DETERMINE THE EFFECTIVE DATES.

STAFF, DIRECTOR OF WASTEWATER, ERIC WEISS, AND I ARE

AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

10:29:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS?

10:29:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, YOU AND I HAD A

WONDERFUL CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.

I ASKED YOU YESTERDAY, WHO IS GOING TO BE THE ENFORCER OF

THIS ORDINANCE?

10:29:24 >>McLANE EVANS:
THAT IS OUR WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT.

THEY HAVE AN EXTENSIVE MONITORING, REPORTING, AND

ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM.

I'LL HAND IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WEISS TO GIVE YOU THE

DETAILS ON THAT.

10:29:36 >>ERIC WEISS:
WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.




WE HAVE A TEAM OF INDUSTRIAL WASTE TECHNICIANS THAT THEY

MONITOR AND ENFORCE THE TECHNICAL MANUALS FOR OUR

INDUSTRIAL USERS.

10:29:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

10:29:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. VIERA.

10:29:59 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.

IT'S NOT ON THE SUBSTANCE.

I JUST WANTED TO PUBLICLY THANK MR. WEISS AS WELL AS BRAD

WHO CAME DOWN A WEEK AGO FOR A LONG MEETING WITH

CONSTITUENTS ON SOME PIPE AND ROAD ISSUES AND WHATNOT.

I JUST WANTED TO PUBLICLY SALUTE YOU GUYS AND STATE HOW

LUCKY WE ARE TO HAVE SOME WONDERFUL PROFESSIONALS HERE IN

THE CITY OF TAMPA WHO DID SUCH A GREAT JOB.

IN TRAVELING OUT TO.

[INDISCERNIBLE]

I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU TWO GENTLEMEN FOR YOUR WORK

AND PROFESSIONALISM.

WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE YOU.

THANK YOU.

10:30:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYONE ELSE ANY COMMENTS FOR STAFF?

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM?

10:30:48 >>THE CLERK:
NO ONE IS REGISTERED.

10:30:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT IS A FIRST READING, MR. CHAIR.




10:30:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MIRANDA.

10:30:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM NUMBER 3.

FILE NUMBER E2021-8 CHAPTER 26, AN ORDINANCE BEING

PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE

IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE 2021

EDITION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA'S WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT

DISCHARGE AND INDUSTRIAL PRETREATMENT STANDARDS TECHNICAL

MANUAL, MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES,

CHAPTER 26 (UTILITIES); AMENDING SECTION 26-128,

TECHNICAL STANDARDS ADOPTED; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL

ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR

SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:31:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECONDED BY MR. DINGFELDER.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:31:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:31:34 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

10:31:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

10:31:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:31:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.

10:31:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

10:31:42 >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

BEING ABSENT.

10:31:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.

ITEM NUMBER 4.

10:31:55 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
GOOD MORNING.




ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY FOR ITEM NUMBER 4.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS IS THE ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER

14, THE NOISE ORDINANCE, WHICH WAS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU IN

YOUR WORKSHOP SESSION ON AUGUST 26th FOR A FIRST LOOK

AND FEEDBACK AND REQUEST FOR FURTHER DIRECTION FROM

COUNCIL.

SO AT THAT TIME, COUNCIL REVIEWED THE ORDINANCE AND

DIRECTED US TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU ON FIRST READING.

IT IS HERE BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING FOR FIRST READING.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR WALK THROUGH THE

ORDINANCE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, AT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.

10:32:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. JOHNSON VELEZ?

10:32:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT, COULD

YOU GIVE US MAYBE THE TWO-MINUTE HIGHLIGHT, SUSAN?

10:32:38 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
CERTAINLY.

ABSOLUTELY.

I'D BE HAPPY TO.

SO THERE WERE FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE PRESENTED TO

COUNCIL AT THE APRIL 22nd, 2021 WORKSHOP THAT ARE

INCORPORATED INTO THIS ORDINANCE.

THE FIRST IS TO CREATE A CITYWIDE AMPLIFIED SOUND

STANDARD WHICH WILL BE APPLICABLE TO ALL USES, NOT JUST

ALCOHOL BEVERAGE USES.

SECOND, IT MODIFIES AND AMENDS CERTAIN DEFINITIONS IN

CHAPTER 14 TO REFINE AND CLARIFY AND THEN UPDATE WHERE




THOSE DEFINITIONS NEED UPDATING.

IT REMOVES THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM THE DECIBEL LEVEL

MEASUREMENT STANDARD, SO THE ONLY TWO AREAS IN THE CITY

WHERE UNREASONABLY LOUD NOISE IS MEASURED BY DECIBEL

LEVEL WILL BE YBOR CITY AND THE ARENA DISTRICT.

AND THEN IT UPDATES ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS TO REMOVE THE

FIVE-MINUTE WARNING BEFORE WHICH TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT

MAY ISSUE NOISE CITATIONS.

SO IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT WILL ASSIST IN ENFORCEMENT WITH

NOISE COMPLAINTS.

10:33:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN FOLLOW UP.

IN REGARD TO CHANNELSIDE, JUST SO WE DON'T ALARM FOLKS,

EXPLAIN THE END RESULT IN REGARD TO ENFORCEMENT AT

CHANNELSIDE.

10:33:58 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
NOISE IN CHANNELSIDE, UPON

APPROVAL OF THIS ORDINANCE WILL BE MEASURED USING THE

PLAINLY AUDIBLE STANDARD, WHICH IS APPLICABLE FOR THE

REMAINDER OF THE CITY, OTHER THAN THE TWO DISTRICTS WHICH

I SPECIFIED BEFORE.

SO THAT IS JUST NOISE OR SOUND THAT IS AUDIBLE TO THE

HUMAN EAR, UNAIDED WITH ANY -- UNREASONABLY --

10:34:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
ANY OFFICER, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER

COULD GO IN THERE AND DO ENFORCEMENT WITHOUT HAVING TO

HAVE THOSE DECIBEL METERS.

10:34:31 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
THAT IS CORRECT.




10:34:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
AND, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THAT'S WHAT

THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FOLKS WERE SEEKING.

THAT'S YOUR DISTRICT.

I'M TELLING YOU, BUT YOU KNOW THAT.

10:34:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE?

ANYONE ELSE?

ALL RIGHT.

MR. DINGFELDER, DO YOU WANT TO READ?

10:34:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT?

10:34:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NO.

FIRST READING.

10:34:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

IN REGARD TO FILE 2021-8, CHAPTER 14 AMENDMENTS, I'LL

READ THE FOLLOWING FOR FIRST READING: AN ORDINANCE OF

THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE REGULATION OF

NOISE, MAKING REVISIONS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF

ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE III (NOISE); AMENDING

SECTION 14-151, PURPOSE; AMENDING SECTION 14-152,

DEFINITIONS; AMENDING SECTION 14-153, UNREASONABLY

EXCESSIVE NOISE FROM A PROPERTY PROHIBITED -- YBOR CITY

HISTORIC DISTRICT, CHANNEL DISTRICT, AND THE ARENA

DISTRICT; AMENDING SECTION 14-154, UNREASONABLY EXCESSIVE

NOISE FROM A PROPERTY PROHIBITED -- ALL OTHER AREAS;




ENDING SECTION 14-159, ENFORCEMENT; CREATING A NEW

SECTION 14-164, OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SO YOU DID FROM ANY

PROPERTY PROHIBITED -- AMPLIFIED SOUND FROM ANY PROPERTY

PROHIBITED; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF

ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR

SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:36:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MIRANDA SECOND.

ROLL CALL.

10:36:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:36:07 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

10:36:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. FEELEY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON

THIS.

YES.

10:36:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:36:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.

10:36:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

10:36:16 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

BEING ABSENT.

SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 4,

2021 AT 9:30 A.M.

IN ADDITION, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE

NUMBER E-2021-8, CHAPTER 26, IS ALSO BEING HELD ON

NOVEMBER 4, 2021 AT 9:30 A.M. FOR SECOND READING AND

ADOPTION.

10:36:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MADAM DEPUTY CLERK.




GENTLEMEN, LET'S GET THIS ENGINE RUNNING.

MR. MANISCALCO, PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE, 5-8, SIR.

10:36:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

REAL QUICK, GLAD TO SEE THE WEST TAMPA LITTLE LEAGUE

COMPLEX YOUTH SPORTS RENOVATION, $40,000 THERE.

SO I MOVE ITEMS 5 THROUGH 8.

10:36:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:36:59 >>THE CLERK:
VIERA?

10:37:05 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

I'M SORRY.

10:37:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

10:37:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:37:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.

10:37:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:37:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

10:37:13 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

BEING ABSENT.

10:37:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
PUBLIC WORKS, MR. DINGFELDER, ITEM 9-14.

10:37:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SHOUT-OUT TO TWO DEPARTMENTS.

ONE IN REGARD TO SOLID WASTE.

SAL AND THE REST OF HIS TEAM, ITEMS 11 AND 12, THEY'VE

BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF CONVERTING OUR FLEET FROM DIESEL

TO COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS, WHICH IS BETTER FOR THE




ENVIRONMENT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THOSE TWO ITEMS CONTINUE.

AND THEN IN REGARD TO ITEM 13 TO BRAD BAIRD AND HIS TEAM

WHO ARE -- AS BRAD AND I JOKED YESTERDAY, IN THE PROCESS

OF TEARING UP THE ENTIRE CITY, BUT IN A POSITIVE WAY, AND

PUTTING IN NEW PIPES AND REBUILDING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT A TEN-YEAR PROJECT, BUT THIS IS

PART OF THAT.

AND BRAD AND HIS TEAM ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I'LL MOVE THOSE ITEMS 9-14.

10:38:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.

ROLL CALL.

10:38:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

10:38:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:38:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.

10:38:19 >> CARLSON?

MANISCALCO?

10:38:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:38:22 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

10:38:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

10:38:24 >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON BEING

ABSENT.

MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:38:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
FINANCE COMMITTEE, MR. MIRANDA, ITEMS




15-23.

10:38:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I MOVE 15 THROUGH 23.

HOWEVER, 20 THROUGH 23 I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO

THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT, THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THE POLICE

BENEVOLENT ALONG WITH THE LIEUTENANTS ON 23 COMING TO

AGREEMENT WITH THE MAYOR AND SOLVING PROBLEMS THAT WE HAD

IN COVID AND WORKING WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK

AS HARD AS WE CAN AND WITHOUT AS MANY DISEASES AS WE CAN.

THANK YOU.

10:38:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECONDED BY MR. CITRO.

ROLL CALL.

10:39:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:39:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.

10:39:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:39:02 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

10:39:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

10:39:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

10:39:07 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

BEING ABSENT.

10:39:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO GO TO MR. CARLSON IS NOT HERE SO MR.

VIERA, WE'LL GO THROUGH ITEMS 24, EXCLUDING 26, EXCLUDING

42 THROUGH 48 -- 26 THROUGH 42.

10:39:36 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.




I MOVE ITEMS 24, 25, AND THEN 43 THROUGH 53.

10:39:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CORRECT.

10:39:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT WERE THOSE NUMBERS, COUNCILMAN

VIERA?

10:39:50 >>LUIS VIERA:
24 --

10:39:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
26 THROUGH 42 --

10:39:58 >>LUIS VIERA:
EXCLUDING 26 THROUGH 42.

10:40:02 >>THE CLERK:
ITEMS 24, 25, 43 THROUGH 53, EXCLUDING 26

THROUGH 42.

10:40:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CITRO HAS SECONDED IT.

ROLL CALL.

10:40:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.

10:40:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:40:18 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

10:40:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

10:40:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:40:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

10:40:22 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

BEING ABSENT.

10:40:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.

MR. VIERA, TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, 54 THROUGH 57.

10:40:33 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.

I MOVE ITEMS 54 THROUGH 57.

10:40:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.

ROLL CALL.




10:40:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:40:43 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

10:40:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

10:40:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:40:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.

10:40:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

10:40:48 >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

BEING ABSENT.

10:40:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:40:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, SIR, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

10:40:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

I'M GOING TO ASK THAT NUMBER 58, SETTING THE REVIEW

HEARING, BE HELD TILL AFTER STAFF REPORTS AS A FOLLOW-UP

TO FIND OUT IF THAT DISCUSSION, IF IT CHANGES THAT

PARTICULAR DATE AND TIME.

THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY 13.

JANUARY 13 AT 10:30 A.M.

10:41:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
58 AFTER STAFF REPORTS.

OKAY, SIR.

WE'LL DO THAT FOR YOU, SIR.

10:41:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS ON 59

THROUGH 61 FOR NOW.

10:41:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.

MR. MIRANDA HAS MOVED IT.

MR. CITRO SECONDED IT.




ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIED.

MR. SHELBY, I SAW YOUR HAND, SIR.

10:41:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I JUST WANTED TO SAY, COUNCIL, WITH

REGARD TO 60 AND 61, THOSE CANNOT BE HEARD BECAUSE NOTICE

NOT PERFECTED.

YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THOSE.

THEY WILL BE RESCHEDULED BY STAFF.

10:41:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER MADE A MOTION FOR 60 AND

61.

MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

10:42:00 >>THE CLERK:
THEY ARE REVIEW HEARINGS.

THEY WILL HAVE TO BE SCHEDULED BY COUNCIL.

10:42:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU HAVE DATES?

10:42:06 >>THE CLERK:
I DO.

THOSE TWO YOU MAY WANT TO HOLD UNTIL YOU DECIDE WHAT TO

DO WITH REVIEW HEARINGS.

10:42:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU WANT TO RESCIND THAT VOTE?

10:42:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MOVE TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

10:42:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?




MOTION CARRIED.

10:42:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
58, 60 AND 61.

10:42:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HEARINGS ARE STILL OPEN.

NUMBER 59.

STAFF?

10:42:38 >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

IF THE CLERK COULD PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.

10:42:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
GOOD MORNING, ROSS.

10:42:46 >>ROSS SAMONS:
GOOD MORNING.

HOW ARE YOU?

10:42:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WE'RE GOOD.

10:43:08 >>ROSS SAMONS:
I'M PRESENTING FILE VAC-21-07.

THE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING AND

CONSIDERATION.

THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS TO VACATE REMBRANDT DRIVE LYING

SOUTH OF MANGO AVENUE, NORTH OF INTERBAY BOULEVARD, EAST

OF MANHATTAN AVENUE AND WEST OF LOIS AVENUE.

THIS ROAD WAS CREATED THROUGH ACQUISITION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY

FOR REMBRANDT DRIVE, CITY-OWNED RIGHT-OF-WAY.

THE APPLICATION WAS FILED WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA

DEVELOPMENT GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT IN APRIL 21st

OF 2021.

THE APPLICANT OWNS PARCELS ON BOTH SIDES OF REMBRANDT

DRIVE.

THE APPLICANT REASON FOR APPLICATION IS AS FOLLOWS: THE




APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO VACATE REMBRANDT DRIVE TO UNIFY

AND CONSOLIDATE THE ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS AND

SCHOOL BOARD PROPERTY.

PREVIOUS APPLICATION TO VACATE THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY VAC

14-16 WAS FILED SEPTEMBER 30th OF 2014 AND WAS DENIED

BY CITY COUNCIL.

NO APPARENT CODE VIOLATIONS TO DATE.

THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 73,000 SQUARE

FEET.

THE STREET IS IMPROVED.

ASPHALT PAVING AND INCLUDES A SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE

OF THE STREET.

EXISTING UTILITIES FOR WASTEWATER, STORMWATER, WATER,

TECO, TECO PEOPLES GAS AND SPECTRUM.

TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND TRANSPORTATION PLANNING REQUIRE

EMERGENCY ACCESS AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION EASEMENTS IF

VACATED.

VACATING OF RIGHT-OF-WAY WILL ONLY BE ALLOWED DURING

SCHOOL HOURS.

KNOX LOCKS WILL BE REQUIRED FOR ALL UTILITIES AND TAMPA

FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR ACCESS.

HERE IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE REMBRANDT DRIVE.

10:45:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
ROSS, GO BACK ONE SLIDE, IF YOU WOULD.

COULD YOU CLARIFY THE CONDITION, GATING OF RIGHT-OF-WAY

WILL ONLY BE ALLOWED DURING SCHOOL HOURS?




I FEEL LIKE I'VE SEEN THIS OVER THERE BY ROOSEVELT

ELEMENTARY, BUT CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT?

10:45:21 >>ROSS SAMONS:
YEAH, THE APPLICANT SCHOOL BOARD IS

WILLING TO GATE THE ROAD ACCESS FROM 7:30 TO 4:30.

10:45:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
TO CLOSE IT.

10:45:32 >>ROSS SAMONS:
CORRECT.

10:45:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
OTHERWISE THEY ARE GOING TO ALLOW IT

TO BE OPEN AND USED BY THE PUBLIC?

10:45:39 >>ROSS SAMONS:
CORRECT.

10:45:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
OKAY.

THAT WOULD BE A FIRM AND PERMANENT CONDITION?

10:45:47 >>ROSS SAMONS:
CORRECT.

10:45:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:45:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CONTINUE, SIR.

10:45:52 >>ROSS SAMONS:
HERE'S AN OVERVIEW OF REMBRANDT DRIVE, AN

AERIAL VIEW OF THE SCHOOL, ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL.

AND THE NORTHERN PROPERTY HERE AND SOUTH OF REMBRANDT

DRIVE HERE.

THE APPLICANT OWNS BOTH PARCELS IN RED AND REMBRANDT

DRIVE IS IN YELLOW.

THIS IS OVERALL VIEW OF THE ATLAS, REMBRANDT DRIVE IN

PURPLE AND GRAY SHADED AREA ARE THE PARCELS.

THIS IS AN ATLAS VIEW OF PREVIOUSLY VACATED AREAS.

AND ALSO, TO SHOW THE ROADWAYS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.




HERE'S REMBRANDT DRIVE LOOKING WEST.

LOIS AVENUE.

AGAIN, LOOKING EAST FROM MANHATTAN AVENUE.

LOIS AVENUE AT REMBRANDT DRIVE LOOKING EAST.

NO CONTINUATION OF REMBRANDT DRIVE.

MANHATTAN AVENUE AT REMBRANDT DRIVE LOOKING WEST.

NO CONTINUATION OF REMBRANDT DRIVE.

AGAIN, LOOKING WEST TOWARDS MANHATTAN AVENUE.

THIS IS THE MIDPOINT OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

10:47:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ROSS, I NEED TO STOP YOU AGAIN.

CLERK ADVISES WE HAVE NOT SWORN YOU IN FOR TESTIMONY.

10:47:21 >>THE CLERK:
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU HAVE

ALREADY PROVIDED AND WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE IS THE

TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

10:47:31 >>ROSS SAMONS:
YES.

10:47:32 >>THE CLERK:
THANK YOU.

10:47:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU MAY CONTINUE, SIR.

I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

10:47:35 >>ROSS SAMONS:
THANK YOU.

HERE'S THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING NORTH FROM

REMBRANDT DRIVE.

THIS IS ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL.

AND THIS IS THE SOUTH PROPERTY ON REMBRANDT DRIVE.

THIS IS LOCATED AT LOIS AVENUE.




THIS IS THE MIDPOINT OF REMBRANDT DRIVE LOOKING WEST

TOWARD MANHATTAN AVENUE.

AGAIN, THIS IS A PORTION OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY ON

THE SOUTH SIDE OF REMBRANDT DRIVE.

I WANT TO GO THROUGH THESE QUICKLY.

STAFF HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST BASED ON

RESPONSE RECEIVED FROM MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION AND

PLANNING.

IF THE VACATING REQUEST IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, THEN

OVERALL EASEMENTS AND CONDITIONS FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE,

MOBILITY TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, WASTEWATER, WATER,

STORMWATER, TECO, TECO PEOPLES GAS AND SPECTRUM WILL NEED

TO BE RESERVED AND CONDITIONS FOR NATURAL RESOURCES MUST

BE INCLUDED IN APPROVING ORDINANCE.

MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION PLANNING REQUIRE THAT A

60-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY BE DEDICATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF

THE PARCEL AND A ROAD CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO ANY RELEASE OF

THE TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

10:48:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

MR. DINGFELDER.

10:49:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I'LL HOLD IT FOR THE APPLICANT.

10:49:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.

HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

10:49:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHO IS THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE?




10:49:17 >> I THINK IT'S THE SCHOOL BOARD.

10:49:19 >> THIS IS JULIA MANDELL.

I'M HERE IN REPRESENTATION OF THE APPLICANT WHO IS THE

SCHOOL BOARD OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

WE HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN.

SO IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL

GET INTO OUR PRESENTATION.

10:49:30 >>THE CLERK:
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE

ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

10:49:40 >> THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

MY -- FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JULIA MANDELL WITH THE

LAW FIRM OF GRAY ROBINSON.

401 EAST JACKSON STREET.

I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL BOARD.

WITH ME IS AMBER DICKERSON, WHO IS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF

GROWTH MANAGEMENT ALSO WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD.

AND THE PRINCIPAL OF ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL, ROBERT BHOOLAI

-- I'M SORRY IF I BUTCHER HIS NAME -- UNFORTUNATELY COULD

NOT ATTEND TODAY, BUT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK WITH HIM

AND IDENTIFY -- AND AMBER WILL SPEAK TO THAT -- SOME OF

THE ISSUES OUT THERE.

AS INDICATED BY STAFF, WE ARE REQUESTING A VACATION OF

REMBRANDT DRIVE.




AS YOU SAW FROM THE PICTURES, REMBRANDT DRIVE RUNS

DIRECTLY THROUGH ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL.

AND ON ONE SIDE, THE SOUTH SIDE, THAT CURRENTLY IS BEING

UTILIZED FOR PARKING FOR THE STUDENTS FOR ROBINSON HIGH.

I THINK ALSO MAYBE SOME OF THE STAFF AND ALSO IS

CURRENTLY USED FOR MAYBE SOME SPORTS FIELDS.

GOING BACK TO THE PREVIOUS DENIAL, I JUST WANT TO SAY FOR

THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD AND I WILL HAVE AMBER SAY THIS

AS WELL, TALK ABOUT THIS AS WELL, AT THAT TIME, THE SOUTH

SIDE WAS REALLY NOT USED AND, IN FACT, PART OF THAT

CONVERSATION REALLY DIRECTLY RELATED TO HOW THAT WOULD

ALL WORK TOGETHER.

BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THOSE ARE BEING USED.

FOR ANY OF US WHO HAVE HIGH SCHOOLERS, WE RECOGNIZE THAT

THEY DON'T ALWAYS PAY ATTENTION AS THEY ARE GOING ACROSS

THE STREET.

I HAVE A HIGH SCHOOLER, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AND, YES, SHE

DOESN'T PAY THAT MUCH ATTENTION EITHER.

THIS REALLY IS A REQUEST FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, AND FOR THE

INSURANCE AS STUDENTS TRAVERSE TO CLASS IN THE MORNING

AND OUTSIDE, BACK TO THEIR CARS IN THE AFTERNOON THAT

THEY ARE ACTUALLY SAFE, AND THERE IS A LOT OF MORNING AND

AFTERNOON TRAFFIC THAT DOES RUN UP AND DOWN REMBRANDT.

AND SO THIS REQUEST REALLY, TO ANSWER MR. DINGFELDER'S

INQUIRY, WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TO DO FOR NOW IS GATE IT.




AND DURING CERTAIN PERIODS OF TIME FOR THE OPENING AND

CLOSING OF SCHOOL AND FOR BACK AND FORTH DURING THAT

TIME, IT WOULD BE OPEN ALL OTHER AREAS IF AT SOME POINT

IN THE FUTURE THERE WILL BE A TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT

WHICH WILL REMAIN.

IF AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WE SEEK TO ASK THE CITY TO

GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THAT TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT AT THAT

POINT IN TIME, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME OTHER

EAST-WEST CROSS ACCESS THROUGH THE PENINSULA.

SO THIS IS A GOOD SHORT-TERM SOLUTION.

IF THERE'S A NEED FOR US TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE

HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE CITY.

ALSO AS INDICATED, THE CITY DOES OWN IN FEE THE ACTUAL

REMBRANDT RIGHT-OF-WAY.

WE WOULD HAVE TO ENTER INTO ADDITIONAL AGREEMENTS AS IT

RELATES TO THAT.

I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO AMBER TO GET MORE INTO

DETAILS AS TO WHAT THE REQUEST NEED IS AND HOW IT WILL

FIT INTO THE CONTINUING OPERATION OF ROBINSON.

THANK YOU.

10:52:44 >> GOOD MORNING.

BER DICKERSON, GENERAL MANAGER OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.

SO, THIS WAS ALL PROMPTED BY AN AIR CONDITIONING PROJECT

THAT WE NEED TO DO AT ROBINSON.




LUCKILY, THANKS TO ALL OF YOU, WE GOT OUR SALES TAX

FUNDING FOR THAT.

SO WITH THE PROJECT, THOUGH, WE ARE REQUIRED TO RELOCATE

SOME BASEBALL FIELDS SOUTH OF REMBRANDT.

IN ADDITION, SINCE THE LAST VACATION, WHICH MS. MANDELL

ALLUDED TO, A DRIVER'S ED RANGE HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE

SOUTH SIDE OF REMBRANDT AS WELL.

SO THERE ARE STUDENTS GOING ACROSS REMBRANDT ON A REGULAR

BASIS.

AND THE PRINCIPAL WAS SAD HE COULDN'T MAKE IT TO TALK

ABOUT SOME OF HIS ISSUES.

OBVIOUSLY FROM A DISTRICT STANDPOINT, SAFETY IS NUMBER

ONE.

SAFETY OF OUR STUDENTS CROSSING.

AND AS JULIA ALSO MENTIONED, SOMETIMES BEHAVIORALLY IT'S

DIFFICULT TO CONTROL WHERE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS CROSS.

SO OUR OVERALL PREFERENCE COMING INTO THIS VACATION

PROCESS WAS TO HAVE THE ROAD COMPLETELY CLOSED AND

VACATED PERMANENTLY.

BUT WE UNDERSTAND STAFF'S SIDE THAT ACCESS IS AN ISSUE.

SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT THE PRINCIPAL POINTED OUT

WERE THAT HE DOES HAVE SOME MAJOR DUMPING ISSUES ON THE

SITE.

HE STATED THAT OFTENTIMES IN THE MORNING HE HAS TO EXPEND

QUITE A BIT OF TIME CLEANING UP FURNITURE, MISCELLANEOUS




THINGS.

ADDITIONALLY, THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION, GANDY CIVIC

ASSOCIATION ISSUED YOU A LETTER OF SUPPORT THAT WAS IN

THE FILE.

AGAIN, OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO CLOSE IT SO WE CAN

FREELY MOVE EVEN IN THE EVENINGS ACROSS THAT

RIGHT-OF-WAY, BUT WE UNDERSTAND YOUR STAFF HAS OTHER

NEEDS.

SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS

ITEM.

THANK YOU.

10:54:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?

MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

10:54:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
QUICK QUESTION.

GOOD MORNING, MS. MANDELL.

THANKS FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE AND THANKS FOR JOINING US

TODAY.

JULIA, QUICK QUESTION.

LEGALLY -- AND I COULD ASK OUR LEGAL FOLKS AS WELL, BUT

I'M SURE YOU'VE WORKED ON THE DOCUMENTATION -- BUT

LEGALLY, HOW DOES THIS FIT IN TERMS OF IF YOU COME IN FOR

AN APPLICATION AT SOME FUTURE DATE TO RELEASE THE

TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE

THE 60 FEET FURTHER TO THE SOUTH, ET CETERA.

IT'S AN UNUSUAL CONDITION.




I SUPPORT THE CONDITION COMPLETELY AND SUPPORT OUR STAFF

IN ASKING FOR IT.

I'M GLAD THE SCHOOL BOARD IS NOT OBJECTING TO IT.

I WONDER LEGALLY, WHERE DOES THAT FIT IN?

IS THAT PART OF THE RESOLUTION OR WHAT?

10:55:44 >> YES, MR. DINGFELDER.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AS WELL AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS.

THE ORDINANCE IS VERY SPECIFIC AS TO THE CONDITIONS FOR

FIRST THE VACATION ORDINANCE GOING INTO PLACE AND

SECONDARILY, ANY RELEASE OF TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT THAT

IS GOING TO BE PLACED ON REMBRANDT PER THIS ORDINANCE.

AND THIS IS COMPLETELY LEGALLY SUFFICIENT AND HOW MANY,

MANY VACATION ORDINANCES ARE SET UP WHERE THEY HOLD BACK

EASEMENTS.

AND THOSE EASEMENTS MAY HAVE A CONDITION UPON WHICH THEY

CAN BE REMOVED.

AND IN THIS INSTANCE, THE CONDITION CLEARLY WOULD PROVIDE

FOR US TO GIVE THAT 60 FEET OF RIGHT-OF-WAY AND CREATE

ANOTHER ACCESS POINT NORTH -- EAST-WEST DRIVE ON EITHER

SOUTH OR NORTH PART OF OUR PROPERTY, DEPENDING ON HOW

THAT WORKS OUT.

AND THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY MECHANISM UPON WHICH THE

TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT COULD BE REMOVED.

AND SO THAT WOULD RUN WITH THE LAND AND WOULD BE THERE IN

PERPETUITY.




I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY OWNS THE

RIGHT-OF-WAY.

THEY OWN THE UNDERLYING ROADWAY.

SO CERTAINLY, THAT WOULD ALSO CREATE ANOTHER TYPE OF

TRANSACTION IF WE WERE TO PURCHASE THAT BACK FROM THEM OR

SOMEHOW HAVE IT DEDICATED.

THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE.

THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO PROCEED FORWARD TO ENSURE SAFETY

OF THE STUDENTS AS THEY WALK BACK AND FORTH AND GATE IT

DURING THOSE TIMES OF SCHOOL OPENING, AND IF WE GO TO A

PLACE WHERE WE NEED OR WANT TO CLOSE AND PERMANENTLY

CLOSE REMBRANDT, WE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE

CONDITIONS.

THANK YOU.

10:57:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, AND I

DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR YOU OR FOR YOUR PLANNER, WE'VE

RECEIVED SOME E-MAILS THAT SPEAK TO SPEEDING ALONG THAT

STRETCH, AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT, AS IS

COUNCILMAN GUDES.

WE BOTH WORK DOWN THERE AT ROBINSON.

I THINK THAT'S WHEN WE FIRST MET.

BUT ANYWAY, I ALSO WAS REALLY PROUD TO HAVE PARTICIPATED

IN THE SWAP WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

WE GOT RID OF THE REMBRANDT PROJECTS, WHICH WERE PRETTY

BAD AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BUILT SOME REALLY NICE




APARTMENTS FURTHER SOUTH AND SWAPPED THAT LAND OUT WITH

SCHOOL BOARD.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT PROJECT MANY YEARS AGO.

ANYWAY, IN REGARD TO SPEEDING, I KNOW IT APPEARS THAT

THERE'S NO SPEED BUMPS ALONG THERE.

IS THERE ANY CHANCE -- AND I APOLOGIZE THAT THE CITY

NEVER PUT THEM IN, BUT IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT THE

SCHOOL BOARD HAS LOOKED AT THAT AND MIGHT CONSIDER

PUTTING SPEED BUMPS ON THERE?

10:58:34 >> I WOULD NEED AMBER TO SPEAK TO WHAT SHE DOES.

I WILL SAY, I WAS OUT THERE WHEN I WAS POSTING THE SIGNS,

AND THERE IS SPEEDING ON THERE.

THAT IS TRUE, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE

BELIEVE THE GATING IS ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT.

BUT I'LL ASK --

10:58:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
IN THOSE AFTER-SCHOOL HOURS,

ESPECIALLY IN THE EVENINGS AND THAT SORT OF THING, IF

WE'RE JUST INVITING PERHAPS A LITTLE DRAG RACING OR WHAT

HAVE YOU DOWN THAT ISOLATED STRETCH OF LAND, MAYBE THAT'S

SOMETHING THE SCHOOL BOARD MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER FOR THE

PUBLIC'S BENEFIT.

10:59:04 >> JUST TO TAKE STEP FURTHER, ALSO SOMETHING THAT WOULD

HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE CITY OF TAMPA TRANSPORTATION AND

BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO WORK ON WITH US.

WHETHER OR NOT WE'D BE FINANCIALLY ABLE TO DO THAT OR




WILLING TO DO THAT I THINK IS THE THING THAT CERTAINLY

CAN BE TALKED ABOUT.

AND I'LL ASK AMBER TO ALSO COMMENT.

10:59:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MAYBE SINCE WE STILL OWN THE FEE,

MAYBE THE CITY CAN PARTICIPATE AND SHARE THE COST.

YES, MA'AM.

10:59:35 >> WE WOULD BE OPEN TO SPEED BUMPS.

AS JULIA SAID, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT IN THE ROAD BUILDING

BUSINESS.

WE WOULD NEED YOUR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS TO SIGN OFF ON

THAT.

YES, WE WOULD BE OPEN.

10:59:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
OKAY.

I'LL CIRCLE BACK WITH MOBILITY AND CHECK ON THAT.

10:59:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MIRANDA AND THEN MR. CITRO.

10:59:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HATE TO DO THIS, I

DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY PUTS SPEED BUMPS ANYMORE.

I DON'T KNOW CIRCLING -- YOU ALL KNOW THEY DON'T PUT THEM

UP.

I CORRECT OR NOT?

11:00:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK VIK IS ON THE LINE.

I DON'T THINK WE DO.

11:00:12 >>VIK BHIDE:
VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

CURRENTLY, WE DO NOT USE SPEED BUMPS OR VERTICAL




DELINEATION AS A TRAFFIC CONTROL MEASURE FOR CALMING.

WE DO SUPPORT RAISED CROSSWALKS.

HAVING SAID THAT, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL

BOARD AND FIND APPROPRIATE TRAFFIC-CALMING SOLUTIONS.

ALSO LIKE TO REITERATE WE DO SUPPORT THE VACATING.

THE ORDINANCE, AS WRITTEN, DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY

CONDITIONS.

I'LL LET LEGAL SPEAK TO THAT.

BUT OUR PURPOSE, OUR INTENT IN MAKING THOSE COMMENTS WAS

TO DOCUMENT THEM IN ACCELA SO THAT IT IS UNDERSTOOD WHAT

THE PURPOSE OF OUR INTENT WAS IN THAT CASE.

11:01:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CITRO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

11:01:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

THE WHOLE CONCEPT AND IDEA I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE,

SAFETY, SAFETY, SAFETY IS ONE E-MAIL SAID.

THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS TO KEEP THAT ROAD OPEN

DURING NONSCHOOL HOURS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, POLICE AND

FIRE.

TALKING ABOUT SPEED BUMPS, YOU KNOW, THAT SLOWS THEM

DOWN, ESPECIALLY EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:01:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. VIERA.

11:01:38 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.

ON SPEED BUMPS, I INQUIRED WITH VIK WHO ALWAYS DOES SUCH

A GOOD JOB AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK, VIK, AND




EVERYBODY THERE ON THE CALL OR ON THE LINE, ON SPEED

BUMPS ON BOUGAINVILLEA, AS I RECALL, AND I LEARNED THE

SAME THING THAT THE CITY DOESN'T LIKE SPEED BUMPS.

SPEED BUMPS.

[INDISCERNIBLE]

I LIKE SPEED BUMPS -- [INAUDIBLE]

THAT'S MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

I GUESS THE CITY BY DESIGN DOESN'T LIKE SPEED BUMPS IN

THE CITY.

AGAIN, I'M PERSONALLY A FAN OF THEM.

I THINK THEY DO A GOOD JOB OVERALL.

MY OPINION.

THANK YOU, SIR.

11:02:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
COUNCIL TO BE LEERY ABOUT THOSE BUMPS

BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE -- I CAN'T THINK OF NOT ONE

COMMUNITY THAT WANTS SPEED BUMPS, MR. MIRANDA.

11:02:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU'RE RIGHT.

11:02:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS LOOKING

TO KIND OF FOSTER AN IDEA THAT THEY HAVE GOTTEN AWAY AND

WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR WE TRY TO DO THAT. WE NEED

TO WRAP THIS UP.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION.

ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC FOR THIS ITEM?

ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC FOR THIS ITEM?




ONE PERSON.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S BRING THE PERSON ON THE SECOND FLOOR FIRST FOR THIS

ITEM.

11:03:17 >> I TOO HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN.

11:03:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, MA'AM.

11:03:22 >>THE CLERK:
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE

ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

11:03:29 >> I DO.

11:03:30 >>THE CLERK:
THANK YOU.

11:03:31 >> MY NAME IS LORRAINE LUNDY.

I LIVE AROUND THE CORNER FROM ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL.

WHEN I -- TO THE REASON TO VACATE REMBRANDT DRIVE, I WAS

INFORMED THAT BALL FIELDS WERE TO BE BUILT SOUTH OF THE

SCHOOL VACATING THE PUBLIC WAY THAT WOULD MAKE IT SAFER

FOR STUDENTS TO CROSS THE STREET.

THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE DESIRES OF ROBINSON HIGH

SCHOOL TO UNITE ITS CAMPUS AND KEEP ITS STUDENTS SAFE,

BUT THIS SHOULD ALSO ADDRESS THE MOBILITY AND THE SAFETY

OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THE SAME STREET AS THE

SCHOOL AND HAVE TO WALK ACROSS THE STREET TO GET TO

SCHOOL OR TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD

THAT THEY LIVE.

REMBRANDT DRIVE IS NOT AN ALLEY BUT A CITY STREET THAT IS




USED 24 HOURS A DAY.

REMBRANDT DRIVE IS ONE OF TWO STREETS THAT GIVES ACCESS

TO GO WEST AND THEN NORTH.

THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT BORDER REMBRANDT DRIVE

ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF THE SCHOOLS.

THERE IS A -- THERE ARE MULTIFAMILY DWELLING HOUSES ON

LOIS AVENUE SOUTH OF THE SCHOOL.

CLIFFORD BAY HAS 276 UNITS WITH THREE OR MORE PERSONS

LIVING IN EACH UNIT, AND GARDENS AT SOUTH BAY HAS 216

UNITS.

STUDENTS FROM THOSE MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS ATTEND ROBINSON

HIGH SCHOOL, LANIER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND MONROE MIDDLE

SCHOOL.

REMBRANDT DRIVE IS USED TO GET TO EACH OF THOSE SITES,

WHICH IS LOCATED WEST AND THEN NORTH OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.

SCHOOL IS IN SESSION 180 DAYS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 7:30

AND 3:30.

AFTER THAT TIME, THE CAMPUS IS BARREN.

WHEN IT IS IN SEASON FOR ATHLETIC GAMES, MOST OF THEM ARE

PLAYED IN THE EVENING.

A NUMBER OF THOSE GAMES ARE AWAY GAMES WHICH MEANS THE

SPORTS FIELDS ON THE CAMPUS ARE NOT BEING USED.

THE SWIMMING PROGRAM, WHICH HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR

MANY YEARS, IS AT THE BOBBY HICKS POOL WHICH IS ACROSS

THE STREET ON MANGO AVENUE.




THE DRIVING RANGE AND BAND PRACTICE ARE BEING CONDUCTED

ACROSS THE STREET.

THAT STREET IS REMBRANDT DRIVE.

I HAVE SURVEYED SCHOOLS IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY AND

OTHER AREAS, AND I HAVE YET TO OBSERVE WHERE THERE IS NO

ACCESS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE SCHOOL.

WE DO NOT LEAVE AT THE END OF THE DAY TO GO HOME.

THIS IS WHERE WE RESIDE AND MOVE AROUND ON A DAILY BASIS,

AND WE SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE CITY STREETS IN OUR

NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE SCHOOL IS AN ENTITY DESIGNATED TO SERVE THE

NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S IN AND THE SCHOOL IS TO PROVIDE DIRECT

ACCESS TO A THOROUGHFARE OR COLLECTOR STREET.

THE SCHOOL SHOULD NOT BE A HINDRANCE TO THE MOBILITY OF

THOSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:06:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

11:06:55 >> CAN I ALSO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT WERE

SAID?

11:06:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NO, MA'AM.

11:07:00 >> OKAY.

11:07:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU'RE WELCOME, MA'AM.

LET'S GO.

I DON'T HAVE THEM ON OUR SCREEN.

11:07:09 >>THE CLERK:
SHAWN BROWN, STEPHANIE POYNOR, AND JEAN




STROHMEYER, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT

YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE

TRUTH?

THANK YOU.

11:07:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GO WITH WHO IS FIRST, SHAWN?

MR. BROWN.

11:07:29 >> ALL RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN.

GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE HERE.

OBVIOUSLY, I'M TALKING ABOUT REMBRANDT.

I DID SEND A LETTER ON TUESDAY ON BEHALF OF THE GANDY

CIVIC ASSOCIATION AS THE PRESIDENT, AS WE DO SUPPORT

THIS.

NOW, IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING WHEN WE TALKED TO THE

APPLICANT BACK IN MAY THEY WERE SEEKING FULL VACATING, A

FULL VACATION, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY, OF REMBRANDT.

IN TALKING WITH THE APPLICANT IN RECENT DAYS, OBVIOUSLY

THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THEY HAD ABOUT THE STIPULATIONS OF

HOURS OF THE ROAD BEING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND ALSO

CONSTRUCTION OF A ROAD ON THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE, NUMBER

ONE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS AND THEY ARE NOT IN THE

ROAD BUSINESS.

NUMBER TWO, THE EVENING HOUR ASPECT, OBVIOUSLY IF THE




BALL FIELDS AND SUCH ARE GOING TO BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF

THERE, FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE CROSSING, IF THE ROAD IS

OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, AS HAS BEEN KNOWN, REMBRANDT

DOES NOT HAVE ANY SAFETY ASPECTS TO IT AT ALL.

BAD LIGHTING, NO CROSSWALKS.

THE ISSUE WITH ILLEGAL DUMPING.

THERE IS A SIDEWALK ONLY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF REMBRANDT

BARELY.

NOTHING ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

REMBRANDT IS A DISASTER OF A ROAD FROM A SAFETY

PERSPECTIVE.

NOW, ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND FOR ALL OF YOU, MANGO TO

THE NORTH HAS SPEED BUMPS ALL THE WAY FROM MANHATTAN TO

DALE MABRY.

ELROD, WHICH IS IN BETWEEN, HAS SPEED BUMPS ALL THE WAY

FROM LOIS TO DALE MABRY.

SO THOSE ARE YOUR THRU ROADS RIGHT THERE, YOUR MAIN

ARTERY ROADS.

REMBRANDT ISN'T.

IT'S A T.

IT'S A T INTERSECTION AT MANHATTAN AND T INTERSECTION AT

LOIS WHICH MEANS SOMEONE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE ONCE THEY

HIT THE INTERSECTIONS AND REMBRANDT IS NOT EVEN A MILE

LONG.




REMBRANDT TRUTHFULLY IS NOT A SUBSTANTIAL MAIN ROAD AT

ALL.

IT'S JUST A SHORT CUT.

MANGO AND ELROD ARE THE MAIN ROADS, WHICH IS WHY THEY

WERE IDENTIFIED YEARS AGO, AND THAT'S WHY THEY BOTH HAVE

SPEED BUMPS ALONG THOSE ROADS BECAUSE OF THEIR THRU-NESS.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN CONSIDERATION.

QUITE FRANKLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE REMBRANDT FULLY

VACATED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WITHOUT IT BEING OPENED.

OTHERWISE, THERE WILL HAVE TO BE A LARGE INVESTMENT OF

FUNDS TO DO THE SAFETY UPGRADES BECAUSE THE ROAD IS GOING

TO BE USED -- OR THERE IS GOING TO BE ACTIVITY AT THE

SCHOOL IN THE EVENINGS AND EVEN DURING THE DAY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN IN THE ORDINANCE IN THE

LANGUAGE IS TO HAVE THE ROAD OPEN THE ENTIRE WEEKEND.

SO IF THERE ARE THINGS GOING ON AT THE FIELDS DURING THE

DAY, REGARDLESS IF IT'S A HOME GAME OR TOURNAMENTS COMING

IN, THE ROAD IS GOING TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

SPEEDING AND ALL THAT STUFF IS AN ISSUE.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, CITY WANT TO INVEST THE MONEY

IN UPGRADING REMBRANDT FOR JUST PARTIAL TIME OR SHOULD IT

JUST BE VACATED SOLELY TO THE DISTRICT AND THAT BE THAT

AND CLOSED OFF.

WE SUPPORT IT BEING CLOSED OFF IN FULL.

THANK YOU, EVERYONE.




11:10:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

STEPHANIE -- OR JEAN.

WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, JEAN.

STILL CAN'T HEAR YOU.

WE'LL GO TO STEPHANIE AND COME BACK TO YOU.

STEPHANIE?

11:10:59 >> GOOD MORNING.

I ALREADY SAID WHAT I HAD TO SAY.

I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME

CONTROVERSY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS ABOUT ALL OF A

SUDDEN WE WANT TO GATE THIS AND OPEN IT ON THE EVENINGS

AND WEEKENDS.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, INTERBAY IS A THIRD OF A MILE SOUTH.

AND IT IS A THRU ROAD.

IT IS A MAIN ARTERY.

AND MANGO IS TWO-TENTHS OF A MILE TO THE NORTH.

THERE'S NO REASON FOR THIS ROAD TO BE THERE, EXCEPT IT'S

THE INDY 500 AND A DUMPING ROAD.

AS LONG AS IT'S OPEN, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DUMP GARBAGE

THERE.

ON A MONTHLY BASIS, THEY ARE TAKING THE EQUIVALENT OF A

TRUCKLOAD OF GARBAGE OFF OF THAT LITTLE STRETCH OF ROAD.

THE PTSA PRESIDENT DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT SHE HAD TO

REGISTER BEFORE TODAY OR SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE TO TALK




ABOUT IT.

HER AND HER HUSBAND HAVE BEEN GOING OUT THERE ONCE A

MONTH AND PULLING GOBS OF GARBAGE OFF THIS ROAD.

THIS ROAD IS NEGLECTED.

IT'S A MESS.

AND GUESS WHAT, I WAS AT ROBINSON JUST LAST NIGHT AT 7:00

OR THE NIGHT BEFORE LAST.

ROBINSON DOESN'T OPERATE FROM 7:30 TO 4:30 LIKE AN

ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DOES.

THESE KIDS HAVE NO SENSE, CALLED FRONTAL LOBE

DEVELOPMENT.

PEOPLE DON'T PAY AS MUCH ATTENTION TO HIGH SCHOOLERS, BUT

THEY HAVE A FRONTAL LOBE ISSUE THAT MAKES THEM MAKE

REALLY STUPID CHOICES.

THAT'S WHY ALL THE ADULTS HERE WHO HAVE CHILDREN SAID THE

SAME THING A THOUSAND TIMES WHEN THEY HAD TEENAGERS.

THAT IS A FACT.

AND THESE KIDS NEED TO BE ABLE TO SAFELY CROSS THE ROAD

BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE SENSE TO DO IT BY THEMSELVES.

TO OPEN AND CLOSE IT, OPEN AND CLOSE IT, THAT'S A

BAND-AID.

LET'S JUST CLOSE IT AND BE DONE WITH IT.

I HAVE TO TAKE MY KIDS THERE TO GO TO SCHOOL.

MY KIDS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO TO SCHOOL THERE.

I THINK SHAWN SENT YOU GENTLEMEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF DATA




THAT WE HAD PRODUCED FROM THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

YOU HAVE SOMETHING FROM THE BALLAST POINT CIVIC

ASSOCIATION SUPPORTING THIS.

ISOG IS SUPPORTING IT.

PORT TAMPA IS SUPPORTING IT.

EVERYBODY THINKS IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY HAS MOVED INTO, OH, WE'RE

NOT GOING TO VACATE IT 24/7.

WE'LL VACATE IT A COUPLE OF DAYS DURING THE WEEK AND WHEN

SCHOOL IS IN.

THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HAVE A SPEECH.

11:13:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU'RE WELCOME.

WE'LL GO BACK TO JEAN.

SHE'S GOT SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

WE'RE SORRY.

ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

11:13:42 >>THE CLERK:
THAT IS IT, CHAIR.

11:13:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO OUR MOBILITY

DEPARTMENT IN REFERENCE TO THIS ISSUE.

VIK.

11:13:53 >>VIK BHIDE:
YES, SIR, CHAIR.

11:13:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS.

CAN'T REALLY SUPPORT THIS ITEM RIGHT AT THIS PARTICULAR




TIME.

SOMEONE WHO KNOWS ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL VERY WELL.

I'M NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE A NIGHT SCHOOL PROGRAM OR NOT.

I'LL ASK THE SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE IF THEY STILL

HAVE A PROGRAM.

I DON'T LIKE THE CONCEPT.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE ROAD, CLOSE THE ROAD.

I REMEMBER ONE SUMMER I WENT OUT THERE AND LINED ALL THE

PARKING LOTS ON THAT SIDE, MR. DINGFELDER, BY MYSELF.

I KNOW THE AREA VERY WELL, THE BACK OF MY HANDS.

I DON'T SUPPORT CLOSING IT FOR THESE DIFFERENT AREAS

BECAUSE IT'S A HIGH SCHOOL.

HIGH SCHOOL RUNS, CAN BE 10:00, 11:00 AT NIGHT.

BALL GAMES, HIGH SCHOOL BALL GAMES DON'T END TILL AFTER

10:00, MR. MIRANDA.

AND TRAFFIC DOESN'T GET OUT UNTIL ABOUT 11:00.

I KNOW BECAUSE I USED TO DO IT.

WEEKENDS, KIDS GO TO SCHOOL ON THE WEEKENDS.

THEY PRACTICE ON THE WEEKENDS.

SOCCER, FOOTBALL, YOU NAME IT, THEY ARE AFTER SCHOOL.

IT'S NOT LIKE A MIDDLE SCHOOL OR AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

ACTIVITIES RUN AROUND THE CLOCK AT A HIGH SCHOOL.

EVEN ON SUNDAYS.

I WAS A COACH.

I KNOW.




FOR ME TO SAY CLOSE IT THOSE SPECIFIC HOURS, I CAN'T

SUPPORT THAT.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REVISITED.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO CLOSE IT, YOU CLOSE IT.

BUT I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT RIGHT NOW CLOSING IT FOR THESE

HOURS BECAUSE THAT IS NOT GOING TO HELP SOLVE THE

PROBLEM.

IF THERE IS A SAFETY CONCERN, WHICH I DO UNDERSTAND

STUDENTS AND ACCIDENTS CROSSING STREETS, BECAUSE THEY

DON'T PAY ATTENTION.

THEY ARE TALKING, HOLDING HANDS, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO REVISIT.

CURRENT STAGE, JUST TEMPORARY CLOSING IT -- IF WE'RE

SAYING THE PROBLEM IS SAFETY CONCERNS FOR THE KIDS AT THE

SCHOOL.

VIK, TELL ME, HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THESE HOURS?

WHY ARE WE NOT JUST VACATING IT?

11:16:03 >>VIK BHIDE:
SO, COUNCILMAN, IT'S A QUESTION OF PROVIDING

OR BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE CITY SERVICES.

SO THE REASON WE ARE SUPPORTING THE VACATING WITH THE

CONDITIONS PUT FORTH IS BECAUSE THERE ARE CITY SERVICES

PROVIDED.

PUBLIC SAFETY, WATER, WASTEWATER, AND STORMWATER AS WELL.

SO I'D LIKE TO REITERATE, WE SUPPORT THIS VACATING.

WE SUPPORT IT WITH THESE CONDITIONS.




AND THE CONDITIONS ABOUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ARE ONLY

COMMENTS.

THEY ARE NOT IN THE ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED, AND I'LL LET

LEGAL SPEAK TO THAT.

BUT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE EASEMENT IS SO THAT THE CITY

CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THIS AREA.

11:16:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU'RE SAYING CLOSING IT, WE COULDN'T

PROVIDE SERVICES BY CLOSING, IT'S UNDERGROUND ON THAT

PROPERTY, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE ADDITION?

11:17:00 >>VIK BHIDE:
YES.

THERE ARE OTHER UTILITIES AS WELL BEYOND JUST CITY

SERVICES THAT DO EXIST WITHIN THE AREA AND ACCESS TO

THESE UTILITIES, AS WELL AS CITY'S UTILITIES IS CRITICAL

TO CONTINUING TO PROVIDE SERVICES.

AND THAT'S REALLY THE PURPOSE BEHIND OUR POSITION.

11:17:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
RECREATION, RAISE YOUR HAND TO BE SWORN.

ANY STAFF THAT'S GOING TO TALK RIGHT NOW, RAISE YOUR HAND

BECAUSE COUNCIL MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

I SEE MELANIE ON THERE.

11:17:28 >>THE CLERK:
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY

THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT

THE TRUTH?

11:17:34 >> YES.

11:17:34 >>THE CLERK:
THANK YOU.

11:17:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK MR. MIRANDA WAS FIRST, MR.




DINGFELDER.

11:17:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE CONVERSATION THAT I'VE HEARD HERE

IN THE LAST 30 OR 40 MINUTES REGARDING REMBRANDT DRIVE,

THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE '70s, BELIEVE IT OR

NOT.

FIRST, IT WAS A REMBRANDT APARTMENTS THAT WERE CAUSING

PROBLEMS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOME INDIVIDUALS WANTED

WHOLE REMBRANDT CLOSED.

THEN TRAFFIC.

THEN CUT-THRU.

AND, BY THE WAY, YOU HAVE THAT POOL THERE BECAUSE OF BILL

POE, THE MAYOR WHO PUT THE POOL THERE BACK IN THE MID

'70s.

I THINK THAT IS THE LARGEST POOL IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

IT HAS HAD PROBLEMS.

WHEN YOU START TO LISTEN, WE HUMAN BEINGS DO THINGS BY

WHAT?

INSTINCT AND NATURAL ABILITY.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO REMEMBER WHAT STREETS ARE

OPEN, WHAT STREETS ARE CLOSED PART-TIME.

FIRST THING YOU DO IS YOU WANT TO GET A NEIGHBORHOOD

UPSET, CLOSE THE STREET ONE DAY AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

JUST ONE DAY.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO OPEN AND CLOSE THAT STREET ON AND OFF,

YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE PEOPLE CONFUSED AND MORE PEOPLE




UPSET.

WHAT I HEAR ABOUT, WELL, WE HAVE SEWERS AND STUFF AND

LINES AND WATER LINES, WE ALSO HAVE THEM IN ALLEYS THAT

WE CLOSE.

WE HAVE THEM IN STREETS THAT WE CLOSE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND PERMISSION TO GO ON

THAT TO FIX THE ASSETS THAT WE HAVE UNDERGROUND FOR ALL

THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.

I'M NOT USING THAT AS AN EXCUSE TO WHY NOT CLOSE IT.

YOU CAN CLOSE A STREET, YOU CAN CLOSE AN ALLEY AND STILL

HAVE RIGHT-OF-WAYS TO GET TO THAT ALLEY BECAUSE IT'S A

PUBLIC SERVICE TO THE NEIGHBORS.

SO WE EITHER -- I HAVE TO AGREE TO SOME DEGREE WITH THE

CHAIRMAN.

DON'T LEAVE SOMETHING OPEN AND CLOSED ON A PART-TIME

BASIS DURING SCHOOL HOURS, SCHOOL IS OUT PART OF THE TIME

AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE AREAS THAT YOU NEED TO CLOSE

PERMANENTLY.

I DON'T LIKE TO PLAY GAMES.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT ANYONE IS, BUT I PERSONALLY, THIS IS

JUST LIKE A HOPSCOTCH GAME.

EITHER CLOSE IT OR LEAVE IT OPEN.

IT BECOMES VERY DANGEROUS WHEN YOU START TO CLOSE

SOMETHING PART-TIME AND SET THAT STANDARD THROUGHOUT THE

CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE THEN THIS IS GOING TO BE A REASON




FOR CLOSING OR OPENING SOMEONE ELSE'S STREET PART-TIME IN

ANOTHER PART OF THE CITY AND IT BECOMES LIKE A DISEASE.

MY OPINION FROM MANY YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE IS YOU

EITHER OPEN IT, LEAVE IT OPEN OR CLOSE IT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:20:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

11:20:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED.

WHEN THE CONDITIONS WERE STATED, I GUESS, BY STAFF AND

THE APPLICANT, IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE THAT WAS GOING TO BE

INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE AS ALL THE CONDITIONS ARE.

NOW, VIK, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT.

I THINK WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT

UPSTAIRS IN REGARD TO THIS ISSUE ABOUT CLOSED DURING

SCHOOL -- CLOSED DURING SCHOOL HOURS AND OPEN OTHERWISE,

AND THAT SORT OF THING, BEFORE I SPEAK TO MY DRUTHERS ON

THAT, LET'S HEAR FROM UPSTAIRS.

11:21:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I BELIEVE THAT MS. MANDELL MIGHT WANT TO

ADDRESS THIS FOR THE COUNCIL.

11:21:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
LET'S HEAR FROM STAFF.

WE'RE ASKING QUESTIONS FROM STAFF NOW, BECAUSE THE WAY

I'M HEARING WHAT'S GOING ON, IT MAY BE DOWN THE ROAD,

MS. MANDELL AND STAFF TO GO BACK AND REEVALUATE FOR A

VOTE TO BE TAKEN.

I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR US ALL DAY LONG TALKING, TALKING,

TALKING WHEN IT MIGHT BE A CONTINUANCE TO CONTINUE THIS




ITEM.

11:21:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE SUBJECT OF

THIS DISCUSSION.

11:21:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
LET'S HEAR FROM UPSTAIRS FIRST.

11:21:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IF MS. MANDELL WANTS TO DO THAT NOW SO

WE CAN END THIS, WE CAN DO THAT.

11:21:39 >> YES, HI.

I APOLOGIZE TO INTERRUPT THE CONVERSATION.

JULIA MANDELL ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL BOARD.

IT'S OUR WISH TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF, WORK WITH THE

COMMUNITY, AND GIVEN THE CONVERSATION THAT'S OCCURRING

AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE'VE HEARD, I REALLY DO THINK

WE'D BE BETTER SERVED CONTINUING THIS.

ALLOW US TO GO BACK TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF BASED ON THE

COMMENTS WE HEARD TODAY AND SEE IF WE CAN'T MAKE SURE WE

COME TO A CONCLUSION ON THIS THAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST

OF THE COMMUNITY.

OUR REQUEST IS TO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE IT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT --

11:22:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION TO CONTINUE?

MR. MANISCALCO'S MOTION.

MR. SHELBY?

11:22:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, SIR.

DATE AND TIME, PLEASE.

11:22:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. SHELBY, LET ME GET TO IT FIRST.




MR. MANISCALCO HAS MOVED IT.

WHO SECONDED?

11:22:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'LL SECOND IT, BUT I AGREE WITH

EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.

WHAT HAPPENS DURING CHRISTMAS, HOLIDAYS?

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A DAY OFF FOR LEGAL HOLIDAYS,

OPEN OR CLOSED?

IT BECOMES AN ANT CHASING A GORILLA.

IT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.

11:22:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE HAVE MR. MANISCALCO -- MR. SHELBY,

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

11:22:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE MOTION HAS TO INCLUDE THE DATE AND

TIME AS PART OF THE MOTION.

11:22:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT DATE, MS. MANDELL?

11:22:53 >> I THINK IN ORDER TO GIVE STAFF AND US ENOUGH TIME TO

GET TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE ALL REALLY BUSY, WHATEVER YOUR

MEETING IS IN 30 DAYS WOULD I THINK BE APPROPRIATE AND

THAT WOULD GIVE US TIME TO GET TOGETHER, TALK THROUGH ALL

THE ISSUES AND GO AHEAD AND HOPEFULLY COME BACK TO YOU

WITH SOMETHING THAT WE ARE IN A BETTER POSITION TO ALL

FEEL BETTER ABOUT.

11:23:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE NOVEMBER 4.

THAT'S THE ONLY REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING IN NOVEMBER.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS CRA EVENING AND THEN THANKSGIVING.

IF NOT, THERE'S DECEMBER 2nd.




11:23:22 >> NOVEMBER 4th I THINK IS ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO DO

WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND COME BACK.

THANK YOU.

11:23:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT 10:30 A.M.

MOVE TO CONTINUE TO NOVEMBER 4 AT 10:30 A.M.

11:23:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANISCALCO MOVED IT.

MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIED.

MR. SHELBY.

11:23:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, WHILE MR. WIGGINTON

IS THERE, MR. WIGGINTON, I SEE YOU ON THE SCREEN.

HOUSEKEEPING MATTER, COUNCIL.

I'M GOING TO ASK THAT ITEM NUMBER 47 ON THE CONSENT

DOCKET BE BROUGHT UP AGAIN FOR A HOUSE KEEPING MATTER.

ITEM 47, COUNCIL, WAS APPROVED, BUT PRIOR TO THAT, THERE

WAS NO MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE TRANSPORTATION

ACCESS EASEMENT AGREEMENT.

SO FOR PURPOSES OF THAT, I'D ASK THAT THAT MOTION BE

ENDED TO INCLUDE THE SUBSTITUTE TRANSPORTATION ACCESS

EASEMENT AGREEMENT AS PART OF THE MOTION.

11:24:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SO MOVED.

11:24:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER MOVED IT.

MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.




ROLL CALL ON THAT?

11:24:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, PLEASE.

11:24:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:24:36 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:24:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:24:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:24:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.

11:24:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:24:43 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

BEING ABSENT.

11:24:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

11:24:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT'S WHY I LIKE MR. SHELBY.

HE KEEPS US IN LINE.

WE'LL GO TO STAFF REPORTS.

ITEM 62, I THINK WE ALREADY SAID THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS

NOT SPEAKING ON ANY UPDATES TODAY.

WE'LL GO TO MS. CAROLE POST WITH ITEMS 26 THROUGH 42.

SHE HAS A PRESENTATION AND THEN WE CAN MOVE THE ITEM FOR

THE CONSENT DOCKET.

MS. POST.

11:25:16 >>CAROLE POST:
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

CAROLE POST, ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC

OPPORTUNITY.

WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION WHILE THE TV TEAM CAN GET THAT

PULLED UP.




I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF INTRODUCTION.

THIS IS RELATIVE TO ITEMS 26 THROUGH 42, WHICH WERE

PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING.

WITH YOUR APPROVAL TODAY, IT WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF OUR

ABILITY TO ADD 17 NEW PRESENTATION -- AFFORDABLE

RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO OUR CITY.

WHILE THAT NUMBER IS SMALL IN QUANTITY, WE THINK IT'S

MIGHTY IN TERMS OF OPPORTUNITY FOR WHAT THIS PROGRAM WILL

BRING TO THE CITY, AND WE'LL SHARE SOME DETAILS WITH YOU

MOMENTARILY.

REALLY, THE OPPORTUNITY, THOUGH, AND WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT

THIS IS FOR THE FUTURE OWNERS OF THESE HOMES, THE

OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO CREATE GENERATIONAL

WEALTH IN A VARIETY OF PARTS OF OUR CITY.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE THINK FOR THIS PROGRAM IS THE

OPPORTUNITY THAT THE BUILDERS OF THESE HOMES WILL HAVE.

THESE ARE LOCAL DIVERSE BUILDERS.

MORE THAN HALF OF THEM ARE MINORITY OWNED OR MANAGED

ORGANIZATIONS.

AND SEVEN OF THEM HAVE NEVER DONE BUSINESS WITH THE CITY

BEFORE.

THIS GIVES THEM A REAL FOOT IN THE DOOR FOR A FIRST-TIME

OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THEIR RESIDENCE AND ESTABLISH

THEMSELVES AS THE CAPABILITIES AND THE CAPACITY TO BE

ABLE TO WORK WITH THE CITY, WHICH IS A GREAT WAY TO DRIVE




OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AGENDA AS WELL.

AND FINALLY, REALLY, FOR THE COMMUNITIES IS WE'RE TAKING

THESE EMPTY, VACANT, UNUSED LOTS AND CREATING MORE

VIBRANT PARTS OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

THESE ARE INFILL LOTS.

THEY SAT UNUSED FOR YEARS, AND A YEAR FROM NOW, IT WOULD

BE -- REFLECT A MORE VIBRANT AND PRODUCTIVE USE FOR THESE

LOTS.

LOTS OF GOALS TO BE ACHIEVED.

AND WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST RECOGNIZE THE TEAM

THAT BROUGHT THIS TEAM TOGETHER.

ABBYE FEELEY IS THE DIRECTOR OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AND

GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.

KAYON HENDERSON, MANAGER OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY

DEVELOPMENT, AND MARQUAZ MCGHEE, WHO IS OUR COMMUNITY

DEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MARQUAZ.

HE'S DONE THE LEFT LIFTING ON THE PROGRAM.

WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT HE HAS TAKEN

ON WITH THIS.

MARQUAZ, OVER TO YOU.

THANK YOU.

11:27:50 >> THANK YOU, CAROLE AND, ALSO, THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR

HAVING US TODAY TO DISCUSS THIS IMPORTANT AFFORDABLE

HOUSING INITIATIVE.




NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE MAYOR'S INFILL HOUSING PROGRAM, THE OVERALL ARCHING

OBJECTIVE IS TO CONVERT THESE VACANT UNUSED CITY PARCELS

INTO AFFORDABLE NEIGHBORHOOD HOMES.

THE CITY WILL BE PROVIDING THE PARCELS TO QUALIFIED

DEVELOPERS AT NO COST.

HOMES ARE TO BE BUILT AND SOLD TO THOSE INCOME-QUALIFIED

BUYERS ONCE THEY ARE COMPLETED.

ALSO THEN DEED RESTRICT IT FOR THOSE QUALIFIED BUYERS FOR

TEN YEARS, WHICH KEEPS IT AFFORDABLE FOR DECADES TO COME.

IT ALSO WILL CONVERT THOSE GAPS THAT WE SEE IN STREETS

AND NEIGHBORHOODS INTO A VIBRANT FAMILY-OWNED HOUSE IN

THAT PARTICULAR --

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THE PROGRAM OVERVIEW AND OBJECTIVE.

THE CITY IS CONVEYING A TOTAL OF 15 CITY-OWNED LOTS IN

PARTS OF YBOR CITY, EAST TAMPA, AND SULPHUR SPRINGS TO

LOCAL DEVELOPERS FOR CREATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THESE 15 LOTS WILL PRODUCE 17 HOUSING UNITS.

ALL WILL BE THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH UNITS.

THEY WILL BE DESIGNED FOR INCOME QUALIFIED BUYERS AT 80

AND 50 PERCENT OF THE AREA'S MEDIAN INCOME.

I KNOW WE USE THAT 80% AMI AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE, BUT

I WANT TO PUT SOME REAL NUMBERS BEHIND THAT.

SO A FAMILY OF THREE WHO MAKES $53,100 OR SOMEONE WHO




MAKES $25.55 AN HOUR, IT'S 80% OF AMI AND WILL BE ABLE TO

PURCHASE THIS HOME.

ALSO, A PERSON WHO IS A FAMILY OF THREE WHO MAKES $33,000

A YEAR OR $15.98 AN HOUR, WILL BE ABLE TO PURCHASE A HOME

HERE IN THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

WE ARE USING REVOLVING FUNDS OF UP TO $75,000 PER HOME TO

SEED THE COSTS FOR THE SMALLER DEVELOPERS AT 0% INTEREST.

ALL BUYERS WHO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM

WILL GO THROUGH OUR HOUSING COUNSELING PROGRAMS, WHICH

THEN TELLS THEM, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE, THEY

KNOW WHO TO CALL OTHER THAN TRYING TO SELL IT TO SOME

COMPANY THAT DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING.

THEY COULD CALL THESE HOUSING COUNSELING AGENCIES SHOULD

THEY FALL INTO TROUBLE OR HAVE SOME ISSUES IN THE FUTURE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

HERE'S A MAP OF ALL THE LOTS IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.

YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE SCATTERED SITES THROUGHOUT ONE OF MY

FAVORITE GOLF COURSES THERE, ROGERS PARK.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

ALSO, THIS IS THE LOTS THAT WILL BE -- AFFORDABLE UNITS

IN EAST TAMPA AS WELL AS THE YBOR CITY AREA.

YOU CAN SEE ON MITCHELL STREET, WHICH IS AT THE

INTERSECTION THERE AT 275 AND I-4, WE'RE GOING TO PUT

THREE HOUSES IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, WHICH WOULD THEN

CHANGE THAT COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE ONE ON COLUMBUS




DRIVE AND EAST LAKE.

THEY ARE ALL AROUND MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AS WELL AS THEY

CAN BE USED FOR ON BUS LINES AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE,

WHICH WE KNOW IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR LOW TO MODERATE

INCOME PEOPLE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, THIS IS THE MOST PRIDEFUL THING FOR ME.

WE KIND OF HEARD THE PUBLIC TALK ABOUT HOW THEY WANTED

MORE DIVERSITY AND PEOPLE WHO GET CITY CONTRACTS.

SO WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM, WE HAVE SEVEN MINORITY

COMPANIES WHO WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN PHASE TWO.

WE HAVE LIKE YOUR HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HILLSBOROUGH, THE

CDC OF TAMPA, THE EAST TAMPA CIVIC AND BUSINESS

ASSOCIATION, BUT WE ALSO HAVE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE BRIGHT

COMMUNITY TRUST, WHO IS NEW ON THE LIST.

THEY DO A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST OVER IN THROUGHOUT THE

STATE.

WE HAVE AAA RESTORATION & BUILDERS, LLC.

THESE ARE ALL AFRICAN AMERICAN COMPANIES WHO ARE LOCATED

IN EAST TAMPA.

SO THEY WILL PUT THEIR BEST FOOT FORWARD BECAUSE THEY

KNOW WHAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS AND THEY KNOW WHAT

THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY GREW UP.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO IN ANY TRANSACTION, IT HAS TO BE A BENEFIT FOR




EVERYONE.

AND WE FEEL LIKE INFILL PHASE TWO, THERE ARE BENEFITS FOR

THE BUYERS.

AS WE ALL KNOW, WE'VE HEARD THE NUMBERS.

THE AVERAGE TAMPA HOUSE SALE PRICE IN AUGUST 2021 WAS

$345,000.

WHICH IS UP 23.7% FROM LAST YEAR.

OUR INFILL PHASE II SALES PRICE WILL BE KEPT AT $240,000.

I KNOW THAT MIGHT SOUND LIKE STICKER SHOCK TO SOME OF YOU

ALL, SO WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

AND WE ARE PREPARED TO PROVIDE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE

FOR THE HOMES THAT ARE IN EAST TAMPA.

THEY CAN GET $40,000 FOR EAST TAMPA CRA AND $30,000 FROM

THE CITY OF TAMPA'S DARE PROGRAM, TOTALING $70,000 IN

DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

THAT MEANS THAT THEIR PURCHASE PRICE, INSTEAD OF 240,

THEY'LL ONLY FINANCE $170,000, WHICH MEANS THE ESTIMATED

MORTGAGE PAYMENT WILL BE $1,057 A MONTH, WHICH INCLUDES

PRINCIPAL, INTEREST, TAXES, AND THEIR INSURANCE.

THESE LOW-TO-MODERATE INCOME BUYERS DON'T HAVE TO COMPETE

WITH INVESTORS FOR THESE PRIME RESIDENTIAL LOTS IN THE

CITY.

WE KNOW THAT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH DRIVING THE PRICES UP.

WE HAVE THE LARGE CONGLOMERATES WHO COME IN THE CITY OF

TAMPA AND THEY BUY UP ALL OF THE NEW HOMES OR HOMES FOR




SALE AND THEY TURN THEM INTO RENTALS WHICH THEN DRIVES

THE RENTAL PRICES UP AS WELL.

AGAIN, HOUSING COUNSELING WILL BE REQUIRED FOR ALL OF

THOSE BUYERS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WHAT'S IN IT FOR THE DEVELOPERS?

THEY HAVE ACCESS TO CITY-OWNED LOTS AT NO COST TO THEM.

WE ALSO PROVIDE EXPEDITED PERMITTING.

WATER AND WASTEWATER FEES WILL BE WAIVED.

EACH ONE OF THEM HAVE GONE THROUGH OUR CONSTRUCTION

SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND THEN PREDEVELOPMENT COUNSELING

WITH THEM AS WELL TO SHOW WHERE TO SITUATE THE HOUSES,

HOW TO TALK ABOUT THE TREES, STORMWATER, WATER, AND STUFF

OF THAT NATURE.

SO THEY DON'T INCUR MORE COSTS BY HAVING TO GO BACK TO

ARCHITECTS IN THREE OR FOUR DESIGNS BASED OFF OF THAT AS

WELL.

THEY ALSO HAVE UP TO $75,000 IN SHIP FUNDING AT 0%

INTEREST FOR CONSTRUCTION AND SOFT COSTS.

DEVELOPERS WILL ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR QUALIFIED BUYERS

BY PARTNERING WITH OUR LOCAL HOUSING COUNSELING ESPECIAL

LIKE SOLITA'S HOUSE, HOUSING EDUCATION ALLIANCE AND

REACH.

THIS CREATES AND FOR THEM IT ALSO CREATES A NEW

PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR THESE SMALLER DEVELOPERS.




I KNOW ONE OF THEM WAS EVEN ABLE TO LEVERAGE THIS

OPPORTUNITY AND GO OUT TO A LOCAL BANK TO GET FUNDING TO

DO OTHER PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, WHAT'S THE BENEFITS FOR THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY?

AGAIN, IT HAS TO BE A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYONE.

CITY GETS INCREASED TAX REVENUES FROM THESE DORMANT LOTS

RIGHT NOW.

WE ACTIVATE THOSE DORMANT CITY LOTS TO CREATE A VIBRANT

FAMILY ENVIRONMENT.

WE HAVE ALSO NOTICED THAT EVERY TIME WE WILL GO IN AND DO

A NEW BUILD IN THE AREA, EVERYONE ON THE BLOCK STARTED TO

UPDATE THEIR HOMES, PAINT THEIR HOUSES DO NEW

LANDSCAPING.

IT ALSO CONTRIBUTES TO THE MAYOR'S T3 INITIATIVE FOR

AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL.

AGAIN, IT ESTABLISH THAT PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH

LOCAL MINORITY DEVELOPERS AND INVESTORS.

WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I'M VERY, VERY PROUD OF.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

11:36:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
A LOT OF THEM.

MR. MANISCALCO, WE'LL TAKE YOU FIRST.

11:36:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT USE OF LOTS THAT ARE




UNDERUTILIZED AND JUST SITTING THERE.

YOU KNOW, YOU WENT OVER THE COST.

THE FACT THAT THESE ARE THREE-TWOS, THEY ARE ACCESSIBLE

TO FAMILIES, PEOPLE WITH CHILDREN, PEOPLE WITH AN ELDERLY

PARENT THAT THEY MAY BE TAKING CARE OF, WHATEVER, THIS IS

NOT JUST A CRAMPED SPACE.

THIS IS A REAL HOME.

THE FACT THAT IT'S JUST OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH

FOR THE MORTGAGE WITH ALL FEES, TAXES INCLUDED, JUST LOOK

AT THE RENTAL MARKET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

TO GET A THREE BEDROOM DEPENDS WHAT PART OF TOWN, COULD

BE TWO, THREE THOUSAND A MONTH.

TO GET A TWO BEDROOM COULD BE JUST AS EXPENSIVE.

DISTRICT 6, SULPHUR SPRINGS, SOME PARTS ARE COMPLETELY

UNAFFORDABLE.

THIS PULLS PEOPLE OUT OF THE PERPETUAL PAYING RENT

FOREVER AND EVER AND PUTS THEM INTO THE AMERICAN DREAM.

PUTS THEM INTO HOME OWNERSHIP AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE WITH

THE ASSISTANCE, WITH THE PROGRAMS IN PLACE TO EDUCATE THE

BUYERS SO THEY KNOW THE RESPONSIBILITY OF BEING A

HOMEOWNER, BUT IT GIVES THEM SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN CALL

THEIR OWN WITHOUT PAYING RENT FOREVER AND EVER.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

11:37:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CITRO.




11:37:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. HENDERSON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR

THIS WONDERFUL REPORT.

I THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. POST AND MS. FEELEY.

AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE HOUSE

COUNSELING, HOME COUNSELING.

I KNOW HABITAT FOR HUMANITY AND CDC DOES THAT ON THE

ONSET.

PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THE COST OF A HOME IS ONE THING.

YOU HAVE INSURANCE, MAINTENANCE, UPKEEP, AND ALL THOSE

OTHER THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH OWNING A HOME.

I AM ASKING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE MAYOR'S RESILIENCY PLAN,

THESE DEVELOPERS, THE QUALIFICATIONS BEHIND THEM ARE,

YES, OF COURSE, MINORITY OWN, BLACK OWNED, ARE WE ASKING

THESE DEVELOPERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE HOMES ARE GOING

TO BE MORE RESILIENT, MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT SO THAT THE

COST OF ELECTRICITY IS ALSO GOING TO DRIVE DOWN THE HOME

OWNERSHIP COST?

WE CAN HELP MAKE HOUSING AFFORDABLE, BUYING A HOME

AFFORDABLE, BUT IF YOU'RE PAYING ONE-THIRD THE AMOUNT OF

ELECTRICITY OF YOUR MORTGAGE PAYMENT, THEN HOW AFFORDABLE

IS IT?

AGAIN, MR. HENDERSON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

REPORT.

THIS IS A GREAT STEP FORWARD FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND




FOR THOSE WHO NEED A HOME, BUT I'M STILL WANTING TO HEAR

BACK ABOUT THE RESILIENCY OF THESE HOMES AND WHAT THE

CONTRACTORS ARE GOING TO DO.

11:39:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

11:39:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING.

YEAH, I'VE APPRECIATED HEARING SOME OF THE PROGRESS IN

OUR AHAC COMMITTEE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

AND I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE COMING TO YOU CONTRACT TODAY.

I THINK I'M MOST -- I'M EXCITED FOR THE FOLKS WHO WILL BE

MOVING INTO THESE HOMES, BUT I THINK I'M REALLY, REALLY

EXCITED ABOUT THE VENDORS THAT WE'VE SELECTED.

SOME MINORITY CONTRACTORS, NONPROFITS OUT IN THOSE

COMMUNITIES.

AND I THINK IT'S REALLY HELPFUL.

AND EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT JUST BE ONE OR TWO HOUSES, ONE

OR TWO HOUSES FOR A SMALL CONTRACTOR OR A NOT-FOR-PROFIT

IS A BIG DEAL.

AND THAT HELPS EVERYBODY.

IT MAKES ALL THOSE BOATS LIFT UP.

ANYWAY, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, YOU AND KAYON AND YOUR

WHOLE TEAM, CAROLE, ABBYE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

11:40:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. HENDERSON.

240 DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PRICE OF THE LOT, CORRECT?

IT'S JUST A THE BUILDING ITSELF?




11:40:54 >> YES, SIR.

11:40:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE SIZE OF THE LOTS, ARE THEY ALL THE

SAME SIZE OR DIFFERENT SIZE LOTS?

11:41:01 >> THEY ARE DIFFERENT SIZED LOTS.

11:41:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
OKAY.

THEN THE HOUSES WILL BE THE SAME SIZE WITH DIFFERENT SIZE

LOTS?

I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS AN EQUAL CHANCE OF

LIVING THE SAME WAY.

11:41:13 >> YES, SIR.

OUR HOUSING STANDARDS SAYS THAT IF YOU'RE BUILDING A

THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST 1250 SQUARE

FEET.

SO WE HAVE ONE, REGULAR LOT, INSTEAD OF IT BEING LONG,

THEY MADE THEM A TWO-STORY HOME.

11:41:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE EACH LOT?

EACH HOUSE, EXCUSE ME?

11:41:36 >> 1250.

11:41:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU LOOK AT 1250 GOING INTO 240, AND

THAT WILL TELL YOU THE COST PER SQUARE FOOT WITHOUT THE

LOT, RIGHT?

11:41:48 >> YES, SIR.

11:41:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
PROTECT EVERYONE, THE PEOPLE BUYING

THEM AND HAVING -- RIGHTLY SO, I APPRECIATE THAT VERY

MUCH, BUT ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING THE TAXES THAT




HAVE THE AFFORDABILITY.

WHAT IS THE TIME OF SERVICE LIMIT THAT THE INDIVIDUALS

WHO ARE GOING TO BE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO LIVE HERE HAVE TO

LIVE IN THE HOUSE BEFORE THEY CAN RESELL IT?

11:42:10 >> THERE'S TEN-YEAR AFFORDABILITY PERIOD ON THIS

PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

SO TEN YEARS, AS LONG AS THEY STAY IT REMAINS THEIR

PRIMARY RESIDENCE FOR TEN YEARS --

11:42:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THEY HAVE TO LIVE IN THE HOUSE FOR TEN

YEARS BEFORE THEY CAN RESELL?

11:42:28 >> NO.

THEY CAN RESELL AT ANY TIME.

HOWEVER, THEY WOULD THEN HAVE TO PAY THE CITY BACK THE

SUBSIDY THAT WAS PUT IN AND ALSO -- [INAUDIBLE]

11:42:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE HEARING YOU.

WHATEVER SUBSIDY THEY RECEIVED, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY

BACK IF THEY SELL PRIOR TO THE TEN YEARS?

11:42:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE COMES KAYON.

11:43:00 >> WHAT MARQUAZ SAID IN THIS ROUND, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT

FROM THE FIRST PHASE.

THE DEVELOPERS ARE GETTING THAT INCENTIVE TO GO IN AND

BUILD.

NOW, IF THAT INDIVIDUAL SHOULD SELL WITHIN THAT TEN

YEARS, BECAUSE WE PUT A MORTGAGE AND WE PUT SOME LAND USE

RESTRICTION ON THAT PROPERTY, IF THEY DO SELL, IT HAS TO




BE SOLD TO SOMEONE INCOME ELIGIBLE ALSO.

WE STILL KEEP THAT AFFORDABILITY FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS

REGARDLESS.

11:43:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BECAUSE I KNOW

THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

I THINK IF YOU HAVE YOUR OWN HOME AND YOU LIVE THERE TWO

YEARS, YOU CAN SELL THE HOUSE AND THE DIFFERENCE AND THE

UPSWING IN PRICE IS YOUR MONEY WITHOUT PAYING ANY TAX UP

TO 250,000.

BUT I'M NOT A CPA.

DON'T INTEND TO BE A CPA.

I DON'T WANT TO BE A CPA.

11:43:45 >> THIS IS PART OF THE WAY THAT WE ENSURE THAT WE REALLY

MAINTAIN THAT AFFORDABILITY.

WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO MOVE IN IN TWO YEARS AND THEY

HAVE NOW BECOME A MANAGER, SUPERVISOR, GOTTEN A PROMOTION

AND STUCK IN A PLACE.

THEY SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE SOMEPLACE ELSE

FOR A JOB.

OUR MAIN GOAL IS CONTINUE TO RECYCLE THE OPPORTUNITY SO

SOMEONE ELSE CAN JUMP IN AND HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY.

11:44:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:44:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. VIERA.

11:44:13 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NO, I JUST WANTED TO SALUTE THE ADMINISTRATION ON THIS




WORK.

I THINK -- I KNOW A LOT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS, CHAIRMAN

GUDES, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I KNOW COUNCILMAN CITRO AND

MANY OTHERS HAVE BEEN VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT AFFORDABLE

HOUSING, BUT THIS MAYOR HAS MADE IT A REAL PRIORITY AND

WE SEE IT UNDER THIS PLAN.

SOME OF THE STATISTICS THAT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO WAS

TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO AFFORDABILITY OF HOUSING, I

THINK IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA, THE MEDIAN RENT, I BELIEVE,

IS ABOUT $1400, AND YOU TAKE A LOOK ON A YEAR BASIS,

THAT'S ABOUT A THIRD OF THE MEDIAN INCOME.

HERE IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA, ABOUT 35, 40 PERCENT.

THAT'S OUT OF CONTROL.

THAT'S GROSS INCOME BEFORE TAXES.

THAT'S A REAL CRISIS.

AND I COME FROM THE SCHOOL OF THOUGHT THAT WHEN EVERYDAY

ERICANS ARE HAVING ECONOMIC STRUGGLES LIKE THIS, IT'S

UP TO THE GOVERNMENT TO INTERVENE ON AN AGGRESSIVE BASIS

TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE GET THE DIGNITY THAT THEY

DESERVE AND WHATNOT.

KIND OF LIKE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID AS A TRUE KENNEDY

DEMOCRAT -- NOT TO TALK ABOUT POLITICS -- BUT MAKE SURE

THAT WE HAVE THAT RISING TIDE THAT LIFTS ALL BOATS.

I BELIEVE THAT 110%.

I SALUTE THIS PLAN AND SALUTE THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THIS




ENDEAVOR.

THANK YOU.

11:45:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.

MR. DINGFELDER, YOU SIT ON ONE BOARD.

I SIT ON ANOTHER BOARD.

WE HAVE GIVEN THE TIME TO STAFF TO LOOK UP SOME IDEAS AND

MAYOR GIVEN HER BLESSING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THIS COUNCIL AND STAFF THAT

EVERYBODY IS NOT READY TO BE A HOMEOWNER.

EVERYONE IS NOT READY TO BE A HOMEOWNER.

EVERYBODY CAN'T TAKE CARE OF A HOUSE.

SO WITH OUR INTUITIVE MINDS, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER

WAYS TO HELP PEOPLE WITH HOUSING WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

HOME OWNERSHIP OR TALK ABOUT PAYING RENT.

I LOOK AT A LOT OF HOUSES THAT ARE FALLING APART,

ESPECIALLY OUR LOW-INCOME AREAS, AND I THINK WITH THE

IDEA OF POSSIBLY -- I THINK THE IDEA -- THE PROGRAM IN

CHICAGO ABOUT LAND TRUST.

REMEMBER, MR. DINGFELDER?

I THINK THE MAYOR, THEY WENT WITH THAT.

THEY ARE GOING TO COME MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE CRA IN

A COUPLE OF MONTHS ABOUT LAND TRUSTS.

WHEN I WAS AT THE COUNTY, THERE ARE VERY DIFFERENT IDEAS

WITH LAND TRUSTS TO HELP OUT WITH HOUSING.

AND LOOKING AT NONPROFITS TO HANDLE SOME OF THOSE




SITUATIONS, PROBABLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUYING

SOME PROPERTY AND MAYBE HAVING WORKFORCE IN IT TO BUILD

THE PROPERTY.

RENTAL PROPERTY, NONPROFIT MANAGER, NOW YOU HAVE ANOTHER

ASPECT FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE.

LOOKING OUTSIDE THE BOX THINKING.

WHEN I LOOK AT, AGAIN, WE TALK ABOUT INVESTORS, BUYING,

BUYING, BUYING.

THE CITY SHOULD BE AN INVESTOR, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

WE HAVE MONEY NOW.

WE SHOULD BE AN INVESTOR TO GO OUT AND BUY SOME OF THE

PROPERTIES THAT ARE FALLING DOWN AND LOOKING AT THE ROLE,

THE TAX ROLL, AND LOOKING AT WHO OWNS THESE PROPERTIES.

AND THE CITY SHOULD BE THE PERSON BEING ABLE TO GET

HOUSING FOR PEOPLE IN COMMUNITIES.

JUST IDEAS THAT I LOOK AT ALL THE TIME WHEN I'M SCROLLING

OTHER CITIES.

I'M GLAD AND APPRECIATIVE OF CAROLE AND HER TEAM, HAVE

TAKEN AN AGGRESSIVE STANCE TO MAKE IT FAIR TO ALLOW OTHER

PEOPLE A CHANCE AT THE PROCESS.

THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE CRY ABOUT, NOT GETTING AN OPPORTUNITY

TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS.

AND THE LITTLE GUY GET A CHANCE TO EAT, MR. DINGFELDER.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT IS WONDERFUL ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR

PROGRAM RIGHT HERE.




YOU WERE ABLE TO GIVE SOME OF THOSE LITTLE GUYS A CHANCE

TO EAT NOW.

AND, MR. DINGFELDER SAID, A COUPLE OF HOUSES COULD MEAN

-- ONE COULD MEAN A LOT TO A GUY WHO IS TRYING TO MAKE

IT, CAN'T DO TEN BUT PROBABLY COULD DO TWO.

AND NOW GET THAT -- MAYBE NEXT TIME HE CAN DO FIVE.

I'M HAPPY ABOUT THE PROGRAM.

I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT TODAY, OF COURSE.

BUT, AGAIN, SOME MORE OUT-OF-THE-BOX THINKING THAT WE

HAVE TO LOOK AT, HOW CAN WE HELP THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING

BUT CANNOT HAVE THE MINDSET, PER SE, TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE

A HOUSE.

BECAUSE SOMETIMES A HOUSE IS A BIG RESPONSIBILITY WHEN

THE WATER MAIN BREAKS IN THE HOUSE.

THE AC BREAKS IN THAT HOUSE.

THE ROOF.

A LOT OF THINGS PEOPLE GET FRUSTRATED BECAUSE NOW THEY

CAN'T HANDLE IT BECAUSE DON'T MAKE ENOUGH AND THEY

ABANDON THE HOUSE.

JUST SOME OF THOSE THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.

I THINK NOW WE HAVE MONEY.

NONSUBSIDIZED MONEY TO HELP SOME OF THE SENIORS.

THREE SENIORS THAT I SENT TO KAYON THE OTHER DAY, WHO

NEED A ROOF.

77 YEARS OLD AND NO CLUE ABOUT THE PROGRAM.




THERE'S ILLEGAL DUMPING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROUNDABOUT,

BOOKER T. DRIVE.

THREE HOUSES WITH SENIORS OVER 70 YEARS OLD THAT NEED

ROOF REPAIR.

THEY HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT OUR PROGRAMS.

THAT'S WHY I SAY WITH THE NEW CRA PERSON SUPPOSED TO BE

COMING ON BOARD OCTOBER 1st, I BELIEVE, SHOULD BE

COMMUNICATING THESE PROGRAMS.

OUR CITY COMMUNICATION TEAM SOMEHOW SHOULD BE OUT THERE

DOING SOMETHING.

I KEEP TELLING PEOPLE, EVERYONE CAMPAIGNED.

GOT TO KNOCK ON DOORS OF SOME OF THESE PEOPLE.

WE HAVE SANITATION WORKERS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

CODE ENFORCEMENT.

WE HAVE TO KNOCK ON PEOPLE'S DOORS TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE

PROBLEMS HERE TO HELP YOU.

BECAUSE SOME OF THE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO LET

THEM KNOW ABOUT THE PROGRAMS.

I APPLAUD WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.

STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO.

HEY, A GOOD EFFORT FOR THE TEAM.

THANK YOU, CAROLE, ABBYE, AND KAYON.

ANYONE ELSE?

CAROLE, ANY PARTING WORDS BEFORE I MOVE THESE ITEMS?

11:50:20 >>CAROLE POST:
CHAIR, THANK YOU.




I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S COMMENTS AND SUPPORT AND JUST

RECOGNIZING THAT WE DO HAVE A VERY AGGRESSIVE GOAL TO

ACHIEVE NUMBER OF UNITS, 10,000 UNITS BY 2027.

AND IN DOING THAT, WE NEED TO OPERATE AT SUCH AN ENORMOUS

SCALE TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU

RECOGNIZING THAT IN THIS CASE, FOR EXAMPLE, THINKING

OUTSIDE THE BOX, THE ABILITY, WHILE IT'S ONLY 17 UNITS,

THAT'S AN INCREMENTAL STEP FOR US BUT AN ENORMOUS STEP

FOR THE DEVELOPERS AND CONTRACTORS WHO WILL GET THEIR

FOOT IN THE DOOR AND WE HOPE THEN BE ABLE TO HELP US MOVE

FORWARD THAT LARGER GOAL AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT AND REALLY WANT TO RECOGNIZE

MARQUAZ AND KAYON AND THE TEAM THAT DID A LOT OF HEAVY

LIFTING ON THIS.

AND LEGAL HELPED US AS WELL.

THROW THAT IN AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT.

11:51:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE ITEMS 26 THROUGH 42?

MR. DINGFELDER MOVED IT.

MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.

ROLL CALL.

11:51:22 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:51:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:51:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:51:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.




11:51:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:51:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:51:28 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

BEING ABSENT.

11:51:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.

GENTLEMEN, WE'RE GETTING READY TO APPROACH 12.

I BELIEVE WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE BY 12:30 WITH THE ITEMS

THAT WE HAVE.

11:51:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'LL HOLD YOU TO IT.

11:51:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HE'S BEEN REAL QUIET TODAY.

MOTION TO MOVE 12:30?

ALL RIGHT.

MR. DINGFELDER MOVED THAT.

MR. MIRANDA SECONDED.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ITEM 63, ITEM OF THE DAY IS 63 WITH THE CHIEF.

WE HAVE CHIEF TRIPP READY?

11:52:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I THINK, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO ALL STAFF,

IN LIGHT OF OUR 38-MINUTE RULE WE JUST PASSED, EVERYBODY

BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.

11:52:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE'RE MOVING.

CHIEF, WAITING ON YOU.

11:52:44 >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I'M SORRY.

GOOD MORNING.

DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU COULD HEAR ME OR NOT.




OKAY.

GOOD MORNING, CHIEF TRIPP, FIRE RESCUE.

DO YOU WANT A COVID UPDATE FIRST?

11:52:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE WANT TO GET RIGHT INTO ITEM 63.

11:53:01 >>CHIEF TRIPP:
OKAY.

I DID SEND AN E-MAIL TO YOU.

ITEM 63, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

I CAN ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU WANT.

GIVE AN UPDATE AS FAR AS GENDER AND RACIAL EQUALITY,

ANYTHING SPECIFIC?

SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE MADE SOME CHANGES FOR THE

DEPARTMENT ITSELF THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE SOME CAPTURING

OF MAKING SURE THAT WE HIRE INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THE

POPULARITY OF THE COMMUNITY.

IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR.

11:53:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CHIEF, I THINK THE BIG ITEMS WE'VE BEEN

HEARING IN REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM IS THE WOMEN'S

BATHROOMS AND ALSO, AGAIN, I HAVE QUESTIONS.

I KNOW IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE PREGNANCY, WHEN

SOMEBODY BECOMES PREGNANT, WHAT IS THE PROCESS?

ABOUT UNFAIR TREATMENT IF SOMEONE IS PREGNANT.

IF YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THOSE ITEMS AND GET A CLEAR

UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE PUBLIC IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT

SO WE CAN MAKE CHANGES AND ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE CAN.

11:54:00 >>CHIEF TRIPP:
OKAY.




IF WE TALK ABOUT THE ITEM 63 AS FAR AS GENDER AND RACIAL

EQUALITY IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND AS FAR AS THE

POLYGRAPH, WE HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH THE CHIEF OF

STAFF AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE HAVE MADE

CHANGES TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.

IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT AS FAR AS THE WOMEN'S RESTROOM,

WE HAVE MADE ACCOMMODATION FOR FEMALES TO UTILIZE

BATHROOMS WITHIN ALL FIRE STATIONS.

CURRENTLY, WE DO HAVE SOME OLDER FIRE STATIONS THAT ARE

LIMITED WITH CERTAIN RESOURCES, BUT INDIVIDUALS, ALL

FEMALES HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE ANY RESTROOM WITHIN THE

FIRE STATION.

CURRENTLY, AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD THE NEW FIRE STATIONS,

WE DO MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS.

WE DO HAVE UNISEX BATHROOMS.

A LOT OF THE STATIONS ARE OVER 56 YEARS OLD.

IF YOU HAVE $3 MILLION OR $10 MILLION YOU WANT TO GIVE

ME, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TRY TO CHANGE SOME OF THE

INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE EXISTING FACILITIES.

BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE RAN INTO.

WITHIN SOME OF THE FIRE STATIONS.

BASICALLY, I'VE BEEN HERE 24 YEARS.

I'VE HAD A CHILD WHILE EMPLOYED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.

OF COURSE, THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS BEEN GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO

ALLOW ME TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE CHOICES THAT I'VE MADE AS




FAR AS BECOMING A MOTHER WITH A CHILD, TO ALLOW ME TO

CONTINUE WITH THE BENEFITS, THAT I CONTINUE WITH MY JOB,

EVEN THOUGH I WAS UNABLE TO PHYSICALLY FULFILL BEING A

FIREFIGHTER, NOT WORKING IN A HAZARDOUS ENVIRONMENT.

SO AS FAR AS DISCRIMINATION, I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED ANY

AND BEING A FEMALE AND ALSO FEMALE OF COLOR, I WOULD

THINK I WOULD BE ONE OF THE TARGETS THAT WOULD HAVE

EXPERIENCED THIS AND I CAN'T SAY THAT I'VE EXPERIENCED

THAT.

11:55:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CHIEF, WHAT IS THE PROCESS?

A FEMALE IS PREGNANT, WHAT IS THE PROCESS, WHAT IS THE

PROTOCOL?

11:55:55 >>CHIEF TRIPP:
SO, IF A FEMALE CURRENTLY MAKES THE CHOICE

TO HAVE A CHILD, OF COURSE, THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE FIRE

DEPARTMENT WANT TO PROTECT THAT INDIVIDUAL AS WELL AS

THAT UNBORN CHILD.

AND WE HAVE CURRENTLY NON-LINE-OF-DUTY POLICY WHICH ALLOW

YOU TO CONTINUE TO RECEIVE YOUR BENEFITS WHILE YOU'RE

CARRYING YOUR CHILD AND EVEN AFTER THE BIRTH OF YOUR

CHILD TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO WORK IN A DIFFERENT ROLE

BECAUSE BEING A FIREFIGHTER, YOU ARE IN A DANGEROUS

ENVIRONMENT AS WELL AS BEING EXPOSED TO A LOT OF

CHEMICALS.

SO CURRENTLY FOR FEMALE, WHICH WE HAVE A COUPLE NOW.

THEY ARE PUT IN A TEMPORARY ASSIGNMENT TO ASSIST THE FIRE




DEPARTMENT WITH OTHER AREAS WHILE THEY CARRY THEIR UNBORN

CHILD.

11:56:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GENTLEMEN, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT SUBJECT

RIGHT THERE?

THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT WE KEPT HEARING.

MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

11:56:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I DON'T KNOW THE FREQUENCY OR THE

DETAILS, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS ADDRESSED WAS

AFTER THE BIRTH OF THE CHILD IN TERMS OF BREAST FEEDING

AND NURSING OR SIMILAR ACTIVITIES, AND THE PRIVACY AREAS

THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED FOR THAT, SO THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER

ONE.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF DURING PREGNANCY.

I THINK IT'S POST-PREGNANCY.

AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS, DID YOU SAY TEN MILLION

DOLLARS?

WAS THAT THE WORDS THAT YOU USED?

THREE TO TEN.

11:57:38 >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I'M SORRY.

-- SHORT CHANGED MY STUFF A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, SO STILL

LIKE -- HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS TO REDO 56-YEAR-OLD FIRE

STATIONS.

11:57:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
200,000.

11:57:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I GUESS COUNCIL PROBABLY NEEDS TO SEE

WHATEVER DOCUMENT THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED BY OUR




CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE.

HAVE THEY DONE A SERIOUS ANALYSIS AND A QUOTE WITH A

CONSULTANT TO ANALYZE EACH INDIVIDUAL STATION TO SAY WHAT

WOULD IT TAKE TO ADD A WOMAN'S RESTROOM?

WHEN WE USE THE WORD "ACCOMMODATION," AFTER 30 YEARS, I

CAN RECOGNIZE A LEGAL WORD WHEN I HEAR ONE.

THAT'S A LEGAL REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE A DUTY TO

ACCOMMODATE.

BUT I THINK THIS GOES BEYOND OUR LEGAL REQUIREMENT.

I THINK IT IS A MORAL AND ETHICAL REQUIREMENT TO MAKE OUR

FEMALE FIREFIGHTERS FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE IN THAT WORK

ENVIRONMENT.

ANECDOTALLY, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE AREN'T THERE YET.

JUST IN TERMS OF THOSE FIRE STATIONS.

SO HAS THERE BEEN A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY FROM OUR

CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AND OUR MAINTENANCE FOLKS TO SAY

WHAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE TO INSTALL AN ADDITIONAL

BATHROOM, PRIVATE FEMALE BATHROOM IN EACH ONE OF THESE

STATIONS?

11:59:19 >>CHIEF TRIPP:
CAN I SAY SOMETHING, COUNCIL?

FIRST OF ALL, SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THIS POSITION, YOU KNOW,

YOU GUYS ARE ASKING A LOT OF STUFF THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW

THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THROUGHOUT THE YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE,

THEY HAVE MADE ACCOMMODATIONS TO FACILITATE NOT ONLY THE




ADA BUT AS WELL AS FEMALE RESTROOMS.

WE DO HAVE FEMALE RESTROOMS IN MAJORITY OF THE STATIONS.

AS FAR AS ACCOMMODATING, WE HAVE MADE MANY ACCOMMODATION.

I CAN'T EXACTLY TELL YOU WHICH STATION DO NOT HAVE A

WOMAN RESTROOM BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AN ACCOMMODATION FOR

ALL, IF YOU WANT A SPECIFIC LABEL WITH A LOT OF THE

GENDER ISSUES THAT'S GOING ON, IT'S MORE OF A UNISEX

RESTROOM THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE

ASSIGNED TO THAT FACILITY.

WE HAVE MADE ADDITIONAL ACCOMMODATIONS IF SOMEONE WANTS

TO GO IN PRIVATE, WHETHER IT'S TO TAKE A SHOWER OR HAVE

PRIVACY, THOSE FACILITIES -- THAT RESOURCE IS THERE.

SO IF THEY SPECIFY A PARTICULAR AREA, I CAN LOOK INTO IT.

BUT I CAN'T PERSONALLY SIT HERE AND SAY, NO, WE'RE NOT

ACCOMMODATING THE FEMALES AND THE FEMALES ARE FEELING

UNCOMFORTABLE.

12:00:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I GUESS SINCE THE ISSUE HAS BEEN

RAISED AND I THINK WE ALL AGREE IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE,

I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO TELL US FIREHOUSE BY FIREHOUSE, BUT

WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS

WITH A REPORT FROM EITHER FROM YOUR OFFICE OR, FRANKLY, I

WOULD DUMP IT OVER TO THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, THE

FACILITIES DEPARTMENT AND LET THEM GIVE US A MATRIX THAT

SAYS HERE IS THE 20 SOMETHING FIREHOUSES, AND THIS IS THE

STATUS OF EACH ONE.




AND THAT WAY WE'RE NOT SHOOTING IN THE DARK, AND WE KNOW

WHAT FACILITIES ARE ADEQUATE AND WHICH ONES PERHAPS ARE

INSUFFICIENT.

BARBARA, WE'RE NOT JUMPING ON YOU ON THIS.

WE KNOW YOU'VE ONLY BEEN IN THIS POSITION FOR LESS THAN A

YEAR, AND YOU GOT A LOT ON YOUR PLATE.

I'D SAY THIS ONE, DUMP OFF TO FACILITIES.

IF I MAKE A MOTION A LITTLE LATER, IT WILL BE DIRECTED TO

FACILITIES AND NOT TO YOU.

12:01:47 >>CHIEF TRIPP:
OKAY, QUESTION FOR YOU.

ARE WE DEALING WITH 63 OR IS THIS AN ADDITIONAL ITEM?

12:01:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THAT'S MR. CHAIR.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME.

12:01:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE'LL ENTERTAIN THE MOTION AT THE END.

I WANT TO GET THROUGH THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THIS

PARTICULAR ITEM BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE POLYGRAPH THERE AND

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ISSUES WITH THEIR PROCESSES OVER

THERE.

WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, HOW THE

CHANGED.

MR. MIRANDA AND ANY MOTION PERTAINING TO THOSE ISSUES, WE

CAN COME BACK TO.

12:02:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
VERY, VERY QUICKLY.

I KNOW WE'RE IN TIME RESTRAINT.

MANY RESTAURANTS I GO TO, ESPECIALLY THE SMALL ONES AND




MANY DOCTORS' OFFICES I GO TO PERSONALLY HAVE WHAT THE

CHIEF JUST SAID.

THEY HAVE A FEMALE, A MALE, AND IT'S USED THAT WAY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FIRE STATIONS WE HAVE OR NOT, AND

I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT IN SHORT PERIOD OF TIME

IN THE FUTURE.

BUT MOST OF THE PLACES I GO EAT, THE SMALL ONES, YOU HAVE

BOTH MALE AND FEMALE WITH THE SIGN ON THAT YOU GO IN.

AND THEY ARE ALL OVER THE CITY OF TAMPA.

THEY ARE ALL OVER DISTRICT 6.

THEY ARE ALL THERE.

SO I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE WORLD IS CHANGING AND UNISEX

BATHROOMS ARE EVERYWHERE THAT I CAN SEE.

I CAN NAME THEM, BUT I'M NOT.

I'M SURE ALL OF US.

THINK WHERE YOU GO AND SEE IF YOU SEE THAT SIGN ANYWHERE.

THAT MEETS THE LAW, I BELIEVE.

WOULDN'T HAVE RESTROOM, WOULD BE CLOSED.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

12:03:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED, SIR.

12:03:23 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.

AND THANK YOU, CHIEF TRIPP, FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

I THINK THAT THE MAIN ISSUE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE

TODAY IS FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, THE FIREFIGHTERS AND

POLICE OFFICERS THAT WHEN WE SAY WE SUPPORT OUR FIRST




RESPONDERS, THAT MEANS WE SUPPORT ALL OF OUR FIRST

RESPONDERS.

I KNOW EVERYBODY AGREES --

[INDISCERNIBLE]

[INAUDIBLE]

REGARDLESS OF RELIGIOUS FAITH.

FOR EVERY JOE GRECO OUT THERE, THERE'S JOE GRECO'S MOM

WHO WAS A POLICE OFFICER.

AND WE HONOR THEM 110%.

THERE HAVE BEEN A LIST OF CONCERNS GIVEN TO -- CHIEF

TRIPP, YOU AND I WORKED EARLIER THIS YEAR, PERIOD OF

TIME, TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS COULD WEAR A PRIDE SHIRT TO HELP

LGBTQ PRIDE.

[INDISCERNIBLE]

I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK IN THAT REGARD.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN -- TO WORK

OFF.

THE MAIN IDEA IS JUST TO CONTINUE TO SEE PROGRESS.

I KNOW THAT YOU'RE 110% COMMITTED TO THAT.

ONE BROUGHT UP PTSD, MAKING SURE OUR FIREFIGHTERS AS WELL

AS POLICE OFFICERS HAVE ACCESS TO THE BEST TREATMENT.

FEW DAYS AGO, PLEASURE SPEAKING WITH THE LATE --

[INAUDIBLE] -- TAMPA FIREFIGHTER I BELIEVE WITH STATION

20, IF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT.

COMPELLED TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A WORKSHOP MID TO




LATER NEXT YEAR ON THE ISSUE.

A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE CAN WORK ON.

NUMBER ONE, YOU JUST GOT HERE.

NUMBER TWO, IF I MAY SO, PARDON MY LANGUAGE, YOU'RE DOING

A HELL OF A JOB.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH YOU ON THESE ISSUES, I THINK

TOGETHER, BUT WE CAN CONTINUE TO GO FORWARD ON THESE

ISSUES, INCLUDING THE BATHROOM.

I REMEMBER IN THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION ON HAVING A -- I

DON'T EVEN BELIEVE, I HEARD THIS FROM SOMEONE ONCE,

PROPER NURSING ROOM FOR --

[INDISCERNIBLE]

I SPOKE TO SOMEONE WHO HAD TO GO TO A DIFFERENT BUILDING

WHEN THEY HAD A KID.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES AND

DEPARTMENTS WORK.

THANK YOU.

12:05:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I'M LOOKING AT THE ITEM.

I'M GOING TO KIND OF PINPOINT SO THE CHIEF CAN GIVE

THOSE, SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS WE DID HIT THEM IN OUR SHORT

PERIOD OF TIME.

TALK ABOUT THE FEMALE UNIFORMS FOR FIREFIGHTERS.

CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT?

12:06:16 >>CHIEF TRIPP:
ONCE AGAIN, CURRENTLY, WE ARE IN THE

PROCESS OF DOING A TEST TRIAL.




WE DO HAVE FEMALES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS WEAR TRIAL

WITH THE DIFFERENT TURNOUT GEAR, FIRE FIGHTING GEAR TO BE

USED.

WHENEVER AN INDIVIDUAL IS HIRED, FEMALE OR MALE, ONCE

AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A UNISEX TYPE GEAR THAT'S USED

AND AS FAR AS MEASUREMENTS.

SOMETHING ELSE, COUNCIL, WE HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH

LABOR MANAGEMENT.

AND THESE LAST NINE, TEN MONTHS THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED,

A LOT OF THESE ISSUES HAVE NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP.

12:07:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I GUESS THEY ARE BEING BROUGHT UP NOW.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THEM TO SEE WHAT WE

CAN DO.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE UNIFORM SITUATION, GENTLEMEN, THAT

THE CHIEF EXPLAINED?

WE HAD A BIG ISSUE REFERENCE TO THE POLYGRAPH.

IT WAS NOT WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT UNTIL WE GOT A LOT OF

COMPLAINTS OR INQUIRIES IN REFERENCE TO THE RECRUITMENT

AND HIRING PROCESS OF BOTH DEPARTMENTS AND THE POLYGRAPH.

SO WE CAN SPEAK TO THAT SO THE PUBLIC CAN KNOW HOW IT'S

DONE.

I KNOW WE MADE SOME CHANGES.

I DID HAVE A MEETING WITH THE POLYGRAPH EXAMINERS AND THE

INTERIM POLICE CHIEF ON THE NEW PROCESSES THAT THEY ARE

GOING TO BE DOING AND PUTTING FORTH AND HOW THAT'S GOING




TO BE DONE.

IF WE CAN -- WHOEVER IS GOING TO SPEAK ON THE POLYGRAPH,

WHAT THE NEW PROCESS IS, POLICE AND FIRE AND HOW THE

RECRUITMENT AND HIRING IS GOING TO BE CHANGING OR LOOKING

TO.

12:08:02 >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I'LL START AND I'LL LET TPD FINISH UP.

CURRENTLY, FROM THE LAST SITUATION THAT TOOK PLACE, I MET

WITH TPD, AND THEIR POLYGRAPHERS TO REVIEW THE PROCESS.

WE IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF AREAS THAT NEED TO BE

ADDRESSED.

WE ADDRESSED THOSE ISSUES, EVEN INCLUDING PRESCREENING

FOR THE POLYGRAPH.

WHEN WE FILL OUT THE APPLICATION, WHEN THE INDIVIDUAL

FILL OUT THE BACKGROUND, PACKET, APPLICATION, THAT'S BEEN

MODIFIED TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WOULD LEAD

INTO THEM HAVING TO TAKE THE POLYGRAPH TEST.

ONCE THAT INDIVIDUAL LEAVES OUR OFFICE AND GOES TO THE

POLYGRAPH, THEY WILL ALSO DO A PRESCREENING.

I'LL LET TPD ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT.

12:08:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I SEE MR. DURKIN THERE.

TWO POLYGRAPH EXAMINERS.

12:08:57 >> YES, I'LL TALK ABOUT THE POLYGRAPH EXAMINATION.

BACKGROUND, INVESTIGATORS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEY

COME TO OUR AREA AND THEN THEY COMPLETE THE POLYGRAPH

QUESTION WITH US.




ONCE THE POLYGRAPH QUESTIONNAIRE IS COMPLETED THEN THEY

WILL ALSO, WE EXPLAIN THE PROCESS TO THEM, EXPLAIN THE

POLYGRAPH INSTRUMENTS, WHAT'S GOING TO BE USED.

WE ALSO GO OVER THE QUESTIONNAIRE WITH THEM.

THEN WE EXPLAIN THAT THEY WILL BE GIVEN A PRACTICE TEST.

THEY ARE ADMINISTERED THE TEST BUT THE TEST IS REVIEWED

PRIOR EACH QUESTION IS REVIEWED WITH THEM.

AFTER THE REVIEW OF THE TEST, THE TEST IS ADMINISTERED

AND THEN THERE'S AN EVALUATION OF THAT.

AFTER THAT, ONCE THE EVALUATION IS COMPLETE, IF THERE ARE

ISSUES WE DO SEE, WE DISCUSS THOSE ISSUES WITH THE

APPLICANTS AS WELL.

12:09:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CRYSTEL, THE CLERK IS WANTING TO KNOW

WHO YOU ARE?

12:09:55 >> CRYSTEL SAMPSON, TAMPA POLICE [ INAUDIBLE ] POLYGRAPH.

12:10:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GENTLEMEN, ANY QUESTIONS?

WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE POLYGRAPH.

THE CHANGES, I KNOW THE CHIEF -- CORRECT?

NEW CHANGES THAT ARE COMING AND HOW THEY WERE SCREENED.

WHEN I WAS WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS, THE PROCESS WAS WAY

DIFFERENT.

TRUST ME, GENTLEMEN.

WAY DIFFERENT.

12:10:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, THERE IS A SAYING

THAT WE HAD BACK IN THE RETAIL BUSINESS, AND THAT'S




FOREWARNED IS FAIR WARNED.

I BELIEVE THESE POLYGRAPHS ARE GIVING PEOPLE THE

OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE COMING TO THEM.

AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED PRIOR

TO THESE POLYGRAPHS BEING TAKEN.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

12:10:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR.

THE CHIEF HAS GONE OVER THE UNIFORMS.

WE'VE GONE OVER THE POLYGRAPH PROCESS.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE RECRUITMENT AND SELECTION PROCESS.

THAT SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE OUT THERE AS WELL HOW

APPLICANTS ARE SELECTED, CRITERIA.

I KNOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED THROUGH THE YEARS.

A QUESTION PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING AS WELL.

POLICE OR FIRE OR HR CAN GO FIRST.

I THINK HR, THE OLD WAY WAS YOU FILL OUT AN APPLICATION

AND TEST WITH THE PERSONNEL FIRST AND THEN IF YOU PASS A

TEST, IT WENT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STARTS IT ALL OVER THE PROCESS.

DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CHANGED OR NOT.

MR. SWAIN, IF YOU CAN GIVE US A PROCESS OF BOTH

DEPARTMENTS AND HOW IT OPERATES.

12:11:38 >> MIKE SWAIN.

EMPLOYMENT SERVICES MANAGER AND HUMAN RESOURCES.

I'LL GO OVER THE PROCESS THAT OCCURS BEFORE THE




APPLICATIONS ARRIVE AT THE DEPARTMENT AND THEN EACH

DEPARTMENT WILL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS

ON THEIR SIDE OF THE FENCE.

SO THE DEPARTMENTS ALL START THIS PROCESS BY INITIATING A

REQUISITION THAT GOES THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS,

THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION.

ONCE THE APPROVED REQUISITION ARRIVES IN HUMAN RESOURCES,

EMPLOYMENT SERVICES GOES THROUGH A POSTING PROCESS IF WE

DON'T HAVE AN EXISTING ELIGIBILITY LIST.

IF THERE'S AN ELIGIBILITY LIST, WE WOULD START THERE AND

DISTRIBUTE THAT ELIGIBILITY LIST TO THE DEPARTMENT.

IN A LOT OF CASES, THERE'S A POSTING PROCESS THAT WILL

HAPPEN WITH SWORN POSITIONS.

SPECIFICALLY ON THE TPD SIDE RIGHT NOW FOR POLICE

OFFICERS TO KEEP A CONSTANT FLOW OF APPLICATIONS, IT'S A

CONTINUOUS POSTING THAT IS UP RIGHT NOW FOR POLICE

OFFICERS.

ALL APPLICATIONS ARE SUBMITTED VIA THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

NO CANDIDATE CAN BE CONSIDERED UNTIL THEY SUBMIT AN

APPLICATION VIA THE WEBSITE.

THERE ARE SOME SUPPORT ACTIVITIES THAT HAPPEN IN THE WAY

OF ADVERTISING, JOB FAIRS, COMMUNITY AWARENESS, AND

THINGS OF THAT NATURE ON BOTH FRONTS.

BY THAT, I MEAN THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE DONE THROUGH

THE EMPLOYMENT SERVICES TEAM, SPECIFICALLY OUR RECRUITER,




REGINA CASTILLO.

SHE'S IN THE COMMUNITY.

SHE'S SPREADING WORD.

AND THEN TPD HAS EFFORTS GOING ON AND ALSO FIRE HAS

EFFORTS GOING ON TO TRY AND DRIVE APPLICANTS TO THE

WEBSITE TO GET THOSE APPLICATIONS IN.

EMPLOYMENT SERVICES SCREENS ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS FOR

THE BASIC QUALIFICATIONS AS POSTED IN THOSE POSTINGS.

IF A CANDIDATE DISPLAYS ON THE APPLICATION THAT THEY MEET

THE QUALIFICATIONS, THEY HAVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE THAT

WE'RE ASKING FOR, THE EDUCATION THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR,

EMPLOYMENT SERVICES WILL THEN CERTIFY THOSE QUALIFIED

APPLICANTS AND SEND THOSE CANDIDATES TO THE DEPARTMENT

FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.

DURING THAT SAME TIME FRAME, EMPLOYMENT SERVICES NOTIFIES

ALL CANDIDATES OF THEIR STATUS.

ALL THE CANDIDATES THAT QUALIFY ARE TOLD THAT THEY MEET

THE QUALIFICATIONS, AND THEIR APPLICATIONS ARE BEING SENT

TO THE DEPARTMENT FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.

THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO DO NOT MEET THOSE QUALIFICATIONS

AND WILL NOT BE SENT TO THE DEPARTMENT, THEY ARE ALSO

SENT A DIFFERENT NOTIFICATION THAT EXPLAINS, YOU DID NOT

MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS.

THEY ARE ALSO TOLD IF THEY HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THEIR

STATUS, THEY CAN REACH OUT TO EMPLOYMENT SERVICES, AND WE




WILL ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AND THE DEPARTMENT IS NOT A

PART OF THE PROCESS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MEET THAT FIRST.

UPON RECEIVING THE CERTIFICATION LIST OF CANDIDATES, EACH

DEPARTMENT REVIEWS THEIR LIST FOR THE BEST QUALIFIED

CANDIDATES USING THEIR ESTABLISHED PROCESS, WHICH THEY'LL

BE ABLE TO TELL YOU ABOUT.

TYPICALLY A QUESTIONNAIRE SENT TO ALL THE CANDIDATES AND

THEN THE APPLICANT RETURNS THOSE TO THE RESPECTIVE

DEPARTMENT FOR THE SCREEN.

I PAUSE RIGHT THERE AND LET EACH DEPARTMENT GIVES YOU A

SYNOPSIS OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY RECEIVE THE

APPLICANTS.

12:15:17 >>CHIEF TRIPP:
ONCE WE RECEIVE THE APPLICANTS, WE REVIEW

THE APPLICANTS LIKE MR. SWAIN SAID, CERTAIN CRITERIA WHEN

IT COMES TO THE FIRE SERVICE THAT INVOLVES THE USE OF

TOBACCO, THAT, OF COURSE, IS AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIER

AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS.

ONCE ALL OF THE DQs, I AM PHYSICALLY INVOLVED IN TO

VERIFY THAT IS A REASON TO BE DQ'D.

ONCE AN INDIVIDUAL SIGNS UP TO BECOME A FIREFIGHTER, THEY

ACTUALLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY HAVE NOT USED TOBACCO

PRODUCTS WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

WHAT I HAVE INCORPORATED TO AS FAR AS OBTAINING CERTAIN

CRITERIA WHEN IT COMES TO MINORITIES, I OPEN MY PROCESS

UP MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR.




THAT WAY I'M ABLE TO CAPTURE A VARIETY OF INDIVIDUALS,

NEW RECRUITS, NEW CANDIDATES THAT FULFILLS THE

REQUIREMENTS OF WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

ALL CANDIDATES ARE THE ONES WHO ARE QUALIFIED, THEY ARE

INTERVIEWED THROUGH A PANEL.

IT'S ONE PANEL.

THEY ASK THEM TYPICAL QUESTIONS.

AND BASED ON HOW THEY RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS AS WELL

AS THEIR BACKGROUND PACKET, THEY ARE GIVEN A SCORE.

A CERTAIN SCORE DEPENDS ON WHAT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF

LIKE THE MEANS.

THE CUTOFF SCORE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS AWARDED TO THE FIRE

CHIEF.

12:16:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
POLICE.

WHO IS GOING TO TALK FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT?

12:16:50 >> ANNA RICHARDSON GRIFFIN.

I'M THE MAJOR OF SUPPORT SERVICES DIVISION.

AS MIKE SWAIN MENTIONED, ONCE THE APPLICATION COMES OVER

TO OUR SIDE TO THE CITY, IT IS ASSIGNED TO A BACKGROUND

INVESTIGATOR.

THAT BACKGROUND INVESTIGATOR IS GOING TO DO SOME

PRELIMINARY LOOKING OF THEIR DRIVER HISTORY, OF THEIR

CRIMINAL HISTORY.

AND THEN A CERTIFIED APPLICANT, CHECK THE FLORIDA

DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR ANY HISTORY THEY WOULD




HAVE THERE.

ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY CONTACT THE

APPLICANT.

WE'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES.

BACKGROUND INVESTIGATOR IS GOING TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS,

TIMING SO THEY KNOW STEP BY STEP WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH

THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

A REEMPLOYMENT QUESTIONNAIRE, AND THEN 14 DAYS TO GET THE

QUESTIONNAIRE BACK TO US.

INCLUDE INFORMATION THAT WON'T NECESSARILY BE ON THE

APPLICATION ITSELF THAT WE NEED FOR PROCESSING THE

BACKGROUND.

ONCE THEY GET THAT BACK TO US -- KEEP IN MIND, ANYWHERE

DURING THIS PROCESS, AN APPLICANT COULD BE DISQUALIFIED

FOR PROFESSIONAL STANDARD VIOLATION BASED ON OUR

POLICIES.

BUT ONCE WE GET THAT BACK, WE'RE GOING TO CONTACT THEM.

WE'RE GOING TO SET UP THEIR INVESTIGATOR WITH THE

BACKGROUND INVESTIGATOR OR POLYGRAPH.

POLYGRAPH AND FINGERPRINTING ON THE SAME DATE.

SO DON'T HAVE TO COME DOWNTOWN THAT OFTEN.

WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE THEM COME IN.

WE'LL MEET AND GO OVER THAT PREEMPLOYMENT QUESTIONNAIRE

IN DETAIL DURING THE INTERVIEW WITH THEIR BACKGROUND

INVESTIGATOR.




ALSO AT THAT POINT DOING WHAT WE CALL OUR HOLDOVER, WHICH

IS OUR TRAINING THAT WE'LL HAVE.

IT IS A SIX- TO TEN-WEEK TRAINING ON-SITE AT 44th

STREET SOCIAL MEDIA WHERE THE SIZE OF TRAINING AT THE

POLICE ACADEMY, WE'LL HAVE OUR OWN TRAINING IN-HOUSE.

WE'LL GO IN-DEPTH WHAT THAT INVOLVES.

SHOW THEM A VIDEO OF THE KIND OF TRAINING THEY WILL BE

GOING THROUGH SO THEY ARE VERY INFORMED, WHAT OUR

POLICIES, PROCEDURES, AND WHAT STEPS THAT THEY ARE GOING

TO BE.

WE GATHER THE EMPLOYMENT DOCUMENTS, DRIVER'S LICENSE,

BIRTH CERTIFICATE, SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, THAT KIND OF

STUFF.

THEY ARE GOING TO BE HANDED OVER TO THE POLYGRAPH

INDIVIDUALS.

THEY ARE ALSO GOING TO BE FINGERPRINTED THAT DAY.

ONCE, AS CRYSTEL MENTIONED, ONCE THEY PASS THAT

POLYGRAPH, AT THAT POINT THAT -- WILL BE GIVEN BACK TO

THE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATOR FOR -- [INDISCERNIBLE AUDIO]

12:19:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.

GENTLEMEN, LIKE I SAID, MOST OF YOU DID HAVE A MEETING

WITH THE CHIEF, POLICE, AND THE FIRE CHIEF ABOUT THE NEW

PROCEDURES THEY ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN IN REFERENCE

TO THE POLYGRAPH.

I WON'T GO INTO THOSE DETAILS.




THOSE ARE CONFIDENTIAL HOW THEY WILL CHANGE SOME OF THE

PARAMETERS OF THE PROGRAM, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

ALSO, WE TALKED ABOUT -- I DID -- WITH BOTH CHIEFS ABOUT

RECRUITING EFFORTS.

I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYBODY BUT FAMU IS NOT THE ONLY

MINORITY INSTITUTION IN FLORIDA.

WE HAVE SEVERAL PROGRAMS HERE.

AND ALSO, I TOLD THE CHIEF, REFERENCE TO GOING OUTSIDE

AND ALSO TO LOOK AT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO LOOK AT PUTTING

MORE MONEY TO RECRUITING SO YOU CAN GO RECRUIT PLACES

OUTSIDE OF FLORIDA.

WE'D LOVE TO HAVE PEOPLE HERE.

A LOT OF THESE ATHLETES AREN'T GOING TO MAKE IT TO THE

NFL OR PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL, SOCCER ARE GOOD CANDIDATES

AS WELL TO BECOME LAW ENFORCEMENT.

ALSO, I TALKED ABOUT WE HAVE A VISITING TOURISM BUREAU.

WE SHOULD GET WITH MARKETING WITH THEM SO THEY CAN PUT

THAT ON THE WORLD WIDE.

WHEN THEY MARKET PEOPLE, THEY MARKET ALL OVER THE COUNTRY

AND SOMETIMES THEY BRING PEOPLE HERE.

BECAUSE THEY WANT PEOPLE TO SEE OUR CITY.

SOMETIMES WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE YOU OR

SPEAK LIKE YOU, IT COULD BE A GAME CHANGER AND PEOPLE

WANT EMPLOYMENT HERE BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THE LINGO.

IF I HAVE SOME YOUNG MINORITY OFFICERS THAT I KNOW CAN




SPEAK THE LINGO TO CERTAIN PEOPLE TO GET THEIR MINDS, GET

THEM INFLUENCED, THAT'S A WIN FOR US.

I'VE SAID THAT MANY TIMES.

WHEN YOU SEND PEOPLE TO DO CERTAIN JOBS, CRYSTEL WAS

THERE, EDDIE WAS THERE, WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE ISSUES.

LOOKING AT RECRUITING AT ANOTHER HIGHER LEVEL.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE VISITORS AND TOURISM BUREAU, WHEN

THEY WANT CONVENTION HERE OR SOMEBODY COME HERE, THEY

BRING THE FOLKS HERE TO LOOK AT OUR PLACE.

THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER RECRUITING TOOL IN THE MEMOIRS TO

HAVE US HELP THEM OUT AS WELL AS IN THE BUDGETS, LOOK AT

HOW WE CAN GO OUT OTHER PLACES AND TAKE CERTAIN OFFICERS

WHO CAN TALK THE LINGO OF CERTAIN CULTURES AND GET THEM

HERE AND GET OUR RECRUITING NUMBERS UP.

I KEEP HEARING EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE A POLICE OFFICER.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.

I TALK TO PEOPLE ON ALL OCCASIONS WHO DON'T HAVE A

MINDSET BUT NEED PEOPLE TO TELL THEM WHAT IT IS TO BE A

POLICE OFFICER, WHAT IT ENTAILS, WHAT IT PAYS, AND HOW

CERTAIN COMPLIMENTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY BEING A POLICE

OFFICER OR FIREFIGHTER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I LET THESE FOLKS GO?

FOLKS, WE THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.

I THINK SOME CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN

GET THOSE NUMBERS UP AND ALSO WE CAN -- OF COURSE, WE




WANT -- ONE OF THE BETTER DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE WORLD.

NEW FIRE CHIEF.

DOING HECK OF A JOB WITH LOT OF BURDENS PUT ON HER.

AND HECK OF A JOB WITH THINGS SHE HAS TO OVERCOME.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ITEM 64.

12:22:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ONLY HAVE SEVEN MINUTES, MR. CHAIR.

12:22:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I KNOW.

I KNOW.

I KNOW.

12:22:27 >> HI.

ITEM 64, GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

THIS IS OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND

COMMUNITY AFFAIRS HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 64.

JOSE MARTI PARK.

WE SUBMITTED A MEMO TO OUTLINE WHAT THE MAINTENANCE OF

AREAS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY TAKING CARE OF IN THE PARK.

I'M JUST INTERESTED IN KNOWING IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE

THAT'S RELATED TO THIS ITEM THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF SINCE

WE HAVE DETAILED WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND WHAT WE ARE

CURRENTLY DOING AND WHAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO FOR THE

MAINTENANCE.

12:23:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
JUST VERY QUICKLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I

MAY.

OCEA, THE PARK ITSELF, THE LAND, IS IT OURS OR CUBA'S?




12:23:15 >>OCEA WYNN:
NO, SIR.

IT IS NOT THE CITY OF TAMPA'S.

IT DOES BELONG TO THE REPUBLIC OF CUBA.

IT WAS DEEDED TO US BY PRIVATE OWNERS IN 1956.

FROZEN ASSET.

EVEN THOUGH THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES NOT OWN THE PARK, WE

STILL PROVIDE THE MAINTENANCE ON IT SINCE IT IS WITHIN

OUR OVERSIGHT AND PURVIEW WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

12:23:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AGREE WITH US MAINTAINING IT.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE

KNOWINGLY AND UNKNOWINGLY THAT TALKED TO FRIENDS OF MINE

THAT GO BY THE PARK AND THEY WANT TO SEE A PART OF

HISTORY AND THAT'S PART OF HISTORY.

THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.

12:24:03 >>LUIS VIERA:
MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, THANK YOU, SIR, VERY

MUCH.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THANK YOU MS. WYNN FOR THAT AND FOR

YOUR REPORT.

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I HEARD THAT THE CUBAN GOVERNMENT OWNS

THE PARK, BUT THE CUBAN PEOPLE OWN JOSE MARTI AND CUBAN

ERICANS HERE IN TAMPA OWN JOSE MARTI, THE CUBAN -- IN

MY OPINION, THE CUBAN GOVERNMENT DOES NOT OWN JOSE MARTI.

THEY MAY OWN THE PARK, BUT NOT JOSE MARTI.

IT'S FUNNY.

I'VE BEEN TO CUBA VERY BRIEFLY ONE TIME.




YOU GO TO CUBA, YOU'LL SEE ABOUT AS MANY MEMORIALS AND

STATUES TO JOSE MARTI AS YOU DO TO, SAY, DAVARA.

THERE IS A DEBATE ON WHO OWNS JOSE MARTI AND HIS LEGACY.

THAT PARK IS SPECIAL TO ME.

I'VE BEEN GOING THERE AS FAR BACK AS I CAN REMEMBER.

JOSE MARTI IS VERY SPECIAL TO ME.

ALWAYS PROUD OF THE FACT THAT HIS BIRTHDAY IS TWO DAYS

BEFORE MY SON'S AND FIVE DAYS AFTER MINE.

JOSE MARTI WAS THE ULTIMATE -- FOR ME THE ULTIMATE

HOLISTIC HUMAN BEING IN SO MANY WAYS.

HE WAS A POET.

HE WAS A REVOLUTIONARY.

HE WAS A WARRIOR.

HE WAS SUCH A GREAT -- AND ALSO AT THE PARK IS ANTONIO

MASSARO, WHO IS SUCH A REMARKABLE FIGURE.

FOR ME, IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE CITY CONTINUE TO DO

WHAT IT DOES TWO REASONS.

NUMBER ONE IS HISTORICAL PRESERVATION.

NUMBER TWO VALUES.

THE CUBAN GOVERNMENT MAY OWN JOSE MARTI PARK, BUT CUBANS

AND CUBAN AMERICANS AND ALL OF THOSE IN THE UNITED STATES

AND AROUND THE WORLD WHO LOVE FREEDOM AND LIBERTY OWN

JOSE MARTI BECAUSE HE WAS A LEADER FOR THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO SEE THE CITY OF TAMPA

CONTINUE WITH THIS.




I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO SEE GROUPS TO THE EXTENT IT'S

NOT DONE, I DON'T KNOW.

THE MAYOR, TAMPA HISPANIC ADVISORY COUNCIL ALSO GET

INVOLVED.

MANY, MANY FRIENDS AND KNOW MANY, MANY PEOPLE INVOLVED IN

THE UPKEEP OF THAT PARK AND WHATNOT AND WE SHOULD

CONTINUE WITH THAT.

AND PEOPLE DO THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT JOSE MARTI REPRESENTS

TO US, TO CUBAN AMERICANS AND TO CUBANS AND PEOPLE

EVERYWHERE WHO LOVE FREEDOM AND LIBERTY.

THANK YOU.

12:26:28 >>OCEA WYNN:
YES, SIR.

WE WILL CONTINUE.

WE HAD NO INTENTIONS OF DISCONTINUING THE MAINTENANCE ON

IT OF THE PARK.

SO THAT'S WHY WE PROVIDED THE REPORT, BUT WAS A LITTLE

BIT PERPLEXED ON WHAT WAS THE NATURE OF ALL OF THIS, WHAT

WAS THE SOURCE OF THE INQUIRY SO THAT WE COULD ENSURE

THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS.

12:26:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?

12:26:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, SIR.

I APOLOGIZE FOR YOU, SIR.

12:26:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MS. WYNN, THANK YOU.

CAN YOU HOP ON ITEM 65 RIGHT QUICK FOR US?

12:27:03 >>OCEA WYNN:
ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY




AFFAIRS.

SO WE WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE WITH YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT

-- WHAT THE CITY IS DOING IN TERMS OF OPPORTUNITIES,

EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDIVIDUALS IN OUR

UNDERSERVED AND AT-RISK COMMUNITIES IN TAMPA.

WHAT I PROVIDED FOR YOU IS A LIST OF INITIATIVES THAT WE

ARE CURRENTLY TAKING -- THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.

AND I'LL JUST DETAIL THAT A LITTLE BIT.

ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT I HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THROUGH

THE REPORT IS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED SEVERAL INITIATIVES TO

CONNECT TEENS AND YOUNG ADULTS THROUGH WORKFORCE AND

APPRENTICESHIP OPPORTUNITIES.

THESE CAREER PATHWAYS, WHAT THEY DO, THEY ALLOW OUR

UNSKILLED OR UNDERSKILLED INDIVIDUALS TO LEARN TRADES AND

TASKS SO THAT THEY CAN COMPETE AND ACQUIRE EMPLOYMENT

OPPORTUNITIES FROM VARIOUS BACKGROUNDS OF INDUSTRIES.

EVERYTHING FROM CONSTRUCTION TO HOSPITALITY TO FINANCIAL

TECHNOLOGY.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE THOSE WORKFORCE INITIATIVES UNDERWAY.

FOR THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WORKING OR WHO NEED THE

FLEXIBILITY TO LOOK FOR JOBS, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE

DEVELOPED THE TAMPA WORKS WEBSITE, AND THIS IS A ONE-STOP

SHOP FOR THE CAREER OPPORTUNITIES, CAREER RESOURCES SO

THAT PEOPLE CAN SEARCH FOR JOBS AND JOB OPPORTUNITIES.

NEXT, WHAT WE DID BACK IN THE FALL WAS WE HAD OUR FIRST




INAUGURAL SIGNING DAY.

AND THIS ALLOWED US TO CONNECT THE COMPANIES AND

BUSINESSES IN THE AREA WITH THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR

EMPLOYMENT OR GAINFULLY EMPLOYMENT AND PROVIDING

ON-THE-SPOT HIRING OPPORTUNITIES.

WE HAD COMPANIES SUCH AS SUNCOAST FEDERAL CREDIT UNION,

TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL, USF HEALTH, TAMPA INTERNATIONAL

AIRPORT HIRING ON THE SPOT.

AND THERE WERE OTHER INDIVIDUALS OR OTHER COMPANIES WHO

PROVIDED FOLLOW-UP INTERVIEWS, ABOUT 20 OR 30 INDIVIDUALS

WITH FOLLOW-UP INTERVIEWS.

AND THEN FINALLY, INTERNALLY, I THINK WE REPORTED ON THIS

BEFORE, BUT WE HAVE OUR DREAM PROGRAM.

THAT'S THE DEFINED READINESS ENSURING ADDED MOMENTUM.

THIS IS A PROGRAM TARGETING YOUNG ADULTS AND TEENS FROM

16 TO 24 THAT WILL ALLOW US TO MENTOR INTERNALLY WITH

LEARNING SCHOOLS AND PRACTICAL WORK EXPERIENCES WITH THE

IDEA OF WHEN THEY ARE DONE WITH OUR INTERNAL MENTORSHIP,

THAT THEY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE BETTER PREPARED

FOR JOB OPPORTUNITIES.

SO THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE INITIATIVES THAT WE ARE

UNDERTAKING, TAKEN OR IMPLEMENTED TO HELP IMPROVE THE

WORKFORCE OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

12:30:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED, SIR.




12:30:39 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR, AND THANK YOU, MS. WYNN, AS

ALWAYS, FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND DETAILED REPORT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS DOING

RIGHT NOW WITH REGARD TO JOB TRAINING, EMPLOYMENT,

ET CETERA.

WE'RE OBVIOUSLY WAITING ON FULL IMPLEMENTATION FOR THE

APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE WE PASSED NOT TOO DARN LONG AGO

WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL MAKE A REAL MARK.

I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION ON SOME WORKFORCE TYPE ISSUES ON

A CERTAIN SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION DURING MOTION TIME.

BUT WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR WAS MORE OF A UNIFIED --

[INDISCERNIBLE]

MINE IS MERELY A PRAYER FOR A UNIFIED PROGRAM FOR YOUNG

PEOPLE TO BE PUT TO WORK IN REBUILDING AND CLEANING THEIR

COMMUNITIES, TAKING AREAS LIKE EAST TAMPA, SULPHUR

SPRINGS, UNIVERSITY AREA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, OF CITY

WORKING WITH -- ET CETERA.

WHAT I CAN DO AT THE END, BECAUSE THAT REQUIRES MONEY,

MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT TO COME BACK TO US IN MAY OR JUNE

OF NEXT YEAR BEFORE WE START LOOKING AT THE BUDGET OR

SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

BUT, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR MEMO, MA'AM AND ALL YOUR

HARD WORK.

THANK YOU.




12:31:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE?

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MS. WYNN.

12:32:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ANOTHER 30 MINUTES IF I MAY.

12:32:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU'RE NOT IN AGREEMENT.

MR. MIRANDA ASKED FOR ANOTHER 30.

SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR.

OPPOSED?

LET'S GET IT DONE.

ITEM 66.

MR. MIRANDA, THIS IS YOURS.

REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT.

12:32:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE DOING

THE LOCATIONS THAT WE COME IN, CLOSE TO WHAT WE NEED.

12:32:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYBODY ON STAFF?

REAL ESTATE.

ABBYE, ITEM 66?

12:32:59 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF CITY

COUNCIL.

I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF MONICA AMMANN, OUR REAL ESTATE

MANAGER WORKING IN COORDINATION WITH CHIEF TRIPP ON THIS

MATTER.

I BELIEVE THAT CHIEF TRIPP WILL BE REPORTING TO YOU ON A




CONSULTANT THAT HAS BEEN HIRED AND IS UNDERWAY IN HELPING

IN THIS EXAMINATION OF POTENTIAL FUTURE LOCATIONS.

WE ARE SERVING IN A SUPPORT ROLE ON THIS.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY

HAVE.

BUT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF TRIPP.

12:33:32 >>CHIEF TRIPP:
CHIEF TRIPP, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.

I CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING SHE SAID.

WE STILL ARE HAVING OUR MEETINGS, OUR LAST MEETING WAS ON

SEPTEMBER 20th AND WE'RE WAITING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL

REPORTS AND TO REVIEW WHERE THE RESOURCES IS NEEDED.

12:33:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DO YOU THINK BY FEBRUARY SOMETHING

WOULD BE BETTER IF WE HAD THE DISCUSSION IN FEBRUARY,

CHIEF?

12:33:53 >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YEAH, I GUESS MY QUESTION -- YES, YES,

SIR.

12:33:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF I MAY ASK FOR THE COUNCIL TO PUT IT

ON THE CALENDAR IN FEBRUARY.

HAVE A DATE GIVEN TO US.

12:34:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WHAT DO WE HAVE IN FEBRUARY?

12:34:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. MIRANDA, THAT ITEM NUMBER IS NUMBER

--

12:34:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 66.

FEBRUARY 3rd WILL BE FINE WITH ME, IF POSSIBLE.

12:34:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA FEBRUARY 3, 2022.




SECONDED BY MR. CITRO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

MOTION CARRIED.

12:34:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.

12:34:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, CHIEF.

ITEM 67.

12:34:36 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

ABBYE FEELEY, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH

MANAGEMENT.

ITEM NUMBER 67 ON YOUR AGENDA THIS MORNING IS A REPORT

BACK TO YOU ON THE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.

YOU MAY RECALL THAT IN JUNE I CAME TO YOU ALONG WITH THE

ZONING TEAM ABOUT THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE

BEEN COMING IN WHERE WE WERE ON THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT

WERE GETTING SCHEDULED.

AT THAT TIME, WE HAD ASKED COUNCIL TO CONSIDER A COUPLE

OF MODIFICATIONS TO THEIR SCHEDULE IN ORDER TO ALLOW US

TO CATCH UP ON THE BACKLOG OF CASES AS WELL AS TO

CONSIDER THE LENGTH OF YOUR EVENING HEARINGS.

WE WENT TO A 5:01 P.M. START FOR AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, AND

OCTOBER.

AND WE DID PROMISE TO REPORT BACK TO YOU TODAY AND LET

YOU KNOW KIND OF HOW WE WERE DOING, WHAT THE HORIZON

LOOKED LIKE FOR THE NEXT SET OF CASES THAT WOULD BE

COMING BEFORE YOU.




I DID PROVIDE A MEMORANDUM TO YOU.

ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE MEMORANDUM, IT DOES GIVE YOU A

SMALL ACCOUNT OF THE HEARINGS WE HAVE, THE NUMBER OF

CASES YOU HEARD AND THE TIMES THAT YOU ADJOURNED.

WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR,

THERE'S ONLY ONE EVENING HEARING IN NOVEMBER, AND THERE

IS ONE EVENING HEARING IN DECEMBER.

SO WE WOULD BE ASKING TO CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THE

5:01 P.M. START.

AND THEN, ALSO, EXTEND THAT FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS

YEAR AND THEN INTO NEXT YEAR, AND THEN ALSO ONE OF THE

OTHER CHANGES YOU HAD MADE WAS THAT ON THE SECOND EVENING

HEARING OF THE MONTH WHICH HAD HISTORICALLY BEEN THE

ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE HEARING, YOU HAD ALLOWED US TO PUT

OTHER CASES ON THAT HEARING IN ORDER TO CATCH UP.

AT THIS TIME, WE'D BE ASKING THAT YOU GO AHEAD AND RETURN

THAT TO THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE EVENING, BUT THAT BEING

SAID, THIS WOULD GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY, MUCH LIKE LAST

MONTH, WHEN YOU HAD CASES THAT NEEDED CONTINUANCES, AND

YOU WERE LOOKING OUT SEVERAL MONTHS, THIS WOULD OPEN UP

SOME ADDITIONAL SLOTS ON THAT SECOND HEARING OF THE MONTH

IF YOU FACE THAT CHALLENGE WITH CONTINUANCES FROM THE

REZONING NIGHT.

SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND TO OPEN

UP DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER.




I KNOW CATE IS ON AS WELL AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

12:37:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER.

12:37:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DISCUSSION THERE

IS.

I READ THE MEMO.

I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY COMPREHENSIVE.

AS ALWAYS, MS. FEELEY, AND MY MOTION WOULD BE TO ACCEPT

STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS ADDRESSED AT THE CONCLUSION OF

MS. FEELEY'S MEMO.

12:37:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I HAVE CONCERNS.

12:37:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I

MAY.

THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWN VARIABLES.

AND THOSE VARIABLES ARE FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM

EVERYONE OUT ON THE STREET THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH

ZONINGS OR NOT, IS THAT THE TIME PERIOD THAT YOU APPLY

NOW AND IF WE KICK SOMETHING DOWN THE LANE, INSTEAD OF

HAVING TEN, YOU END UP WITH 15.

SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HEARD ARE TAKING OVER THE

SLOTS, SOME THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS GETTING TO THE DATE.

I THINK THAT'S UNFAIR.

SOMEBODY APPLY, HAVEN'T APPLIED YET BUT WORKING THROUGH

THE SYSTEM, HASN'T GOTTEN TO THAT POINT WHERE IT'S ON THE

CALENDAR.

WE CONTINUE TO -- WE'RE HEARING INDIVIDUALS COME WITH A




HEARING REQUEST.

THEY COME HERE.

THEY SPEAK FOR 30, 40 MINUTES AND ASK, OH, WE WANT A

CONTINUANCE OR WE SUGGEST A CONTINUANCE.

ONE OF THE TWO.

TO ME, THEN THAT PERSON OUGHT TO WAIT FIVE MONTHS TO COME

BACK TO US, NOT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN THE SYSTEM.

WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE FEEDING A SYSTEM

THAT IS TAKING NOT PERSONAL, PRIVATE ADVANTAGES TO

SOMEBODY, BUT THE WAY IT'S SET UP, IT'S HURTING THE ONE

TRYING TO GET IN BY GETTING FURTHER PUSHED BACK

THEMSELVES.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE DOES.

I APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

ME, I'M WILLING TO GO TWICE A MONTH ON HEARINGS TO GET

RID OF ALL OF THEM THAT HAVE TO BE HEARD.

WE CANNOT STOP BY SAYING THAT THE CITY IS PROGRESSING,

HAVING MORE AND MORE WORK GIVEN TO IT AND TUESDAY,

THURSDAY NIGHT FOR ONCE A MONTH ADDITION SO THAT WE CAN

CONTINUE CATCHING THE BACKLOG AND THEN GO BACK TO THE

THURSDAYS.

THAT'S MY OFF THE RECORD REQUEST.

12:39:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MS. FEELEY, HOLD ON A SECOND.

I ALREADY ASKED MR. SHELBY TO GET WITH ALL COUNCIL




MEMBERS IN REFERENCE TO THIS SITUATION.

BECAUSE WE NEED YOU, MR. SHELBY, AND GET WITH MS. FEELEY

TO COME UP WITH A PLAN, IF IT'S TWO DATES, IT'S TWO DATES

SO WE GET DONE.

BECAUSE MR. MIRANDA IS RIGHT, I HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN

PEOPLE COME UNPREPARED, TRYING TO GET SOME SLIP SLIDE

THROUGH THIS COUNCIL AND THEN ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE OR

COUNCIL TRIES TO BE NICE WITH THOSE FOLKS TO HELP THEM

OUT BY GIVING A CONTINUANCE.

NOW WE THROW EVERYBODY ELSE OFF AND NOW FOLKS GET

TREATMENT TO COME RIGHT BACK THAT SOON.

THEY SHOULD HAVE TO WAIT.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ANOTHER PROCESS IN PLACE SO WE CAN

GET THIS THING MOVING BECAUSE IT'S NOT STOPPING.

IT'S CONTINUING.

AIN'T GOING TO STOP AFTER JANUARY, FEBRUARY.

IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE.

12:40:06 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
CHAIRMAN GUDES, IF I CAN RESPOND TO THAT,

I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS BY PUTTING

THE SECOND THURSDAY BACK TO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE.

SINCE WE TYPICALLY AVERAGE ABOUT THREE TO FIVE ALCOHOLIC

BEVERAGE APPLICATIONS, THAT WOULD LEAVE FIVE OPEN SPACES

ON THAT NIGHT FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO PLACE THOSE

CONTINUANCES TO THAT NIGHT AND NOT KICK ANYONE OUT OF THE

CYCLE THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY ON.




12:40:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THEN WE RUN INTO TIMING.

THEN WE RUN INTO POSSIBLE TIMES.

COUNCIL IS SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO LATE INTO THE

NIGHT BY PUTTING THINGS ON THE DOCKET THAT'S GOING TO RUN

-- IT DOES US NO GOOD TO DO THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE TIRED.

IF WE HAVE A DOUBLE SESSION, WE'RE TIRED.

IT DOES US NO GOOD TO THE PUBLIC AND THE PUBLIC TO ME, IT

IS A SAFETY ISSUE YOU HAVE PEOPLE COME HERE, ESPECIALLY

WOMEN LEAVING HERE LATE AT NIGHT.

EVEN OUR STAFF WALKING WAY DOWN TO A PARKING LOT WAY DOWN

THE STREET.

SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS AS WELL.

THE LATENESS AND THE SAFENESS OF THE COMMUNITY AND OF THE

COUNCIL.

I'M LOOKING FOR A DIFFERENT ANSWER BECAUSE IF YOU'RE

TALKING ABOUT ADDING, THAT MEANS IT'S EXTRA TIME AND TO

ME THAT'S PAST 11:00.

12:41:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD

THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND THERE IS NO CONSENSUS.

IF I READ YOU MY LIST, IT WOULD BE EACH ONE WOULD

CONTRADICT THE PREVIOUS ONE.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY HAS TO BE WORKED OUT WITH

COUNCIL.




WE CAN COME BACK WITH A PLAN, BUT IN TERMS OF ADDING A

MEETING, THEN THERE'S AN OBJECTION TO ADDING A MEETING.

IF YOU DO ADD A MEETING --

12:41:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IT'S CALLED A VOTE.

12:41:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WELL, THE THING IS, YOU DON'T HAVE ALL

FULL COUNCIL HERE TONIGHT.

12:41:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT'S CORRECT.

12:41:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND THIS DOESN'T EVEN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT

THE REVIEW HEARINGS WHICH ARE NOW SCHEDULED FOR 10:30 IN

THE MORNING AND CHANGE THE WHOLE --

12:42:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YEARS AGO I SAID WE SHOULD NOT SIT AS

THE REVIEW BOARD.

OUGHT TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE COURTS.

12:42:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AGREE.

12:42:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OR ANOTHER OPTION, MR. MIRANDA, WHICH

YOU'RE AWARE OF, THAT YOU HAVE SAT WITH OTHER AND COUNCIL

MEMBER CITRO KNOWS THAT, HAVING SAT AS A HEARING OFFICER,

YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEND IT TO A HEARING OFFICER AND

YOU HAVE PROCESSES WHERE THAT HAPPENS AS WELL.

12:42:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK THIS IS A BIGGER DISCUSSION.

I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A POSSIBLE MOTION TO HAVE A SPECIAL

MEETING IN REFERENCE TO THIS SITUATION.

THAT WAY ALL MINDS ARE HERE.

WE WORK IT OUT AND GO WITH A PLAN.

MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.




12:42:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I'M OKAY WITH WORKSHOPPING THE ISSUES.

THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES.

A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WHEN I READ THE MEMO, IT APPEARS TO

ME AND STAFF INCLUDED A MATRIX, A SUMMARY ON THE MEMO OF

HOW MANY CASES WE'VE HEARD AND HOW MANY CASES ARE

CONTINUED, AND THAT SORT OF THING.

I THINK STAFF HAS OFFERED SOME GOOD SUGGESTIONS FOR GOING

INTO 2022.

I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME OF THAT UP QUICKLY, AND MR.

SHELBY IS AGREEING, BECAUSE ANY OF THESE CASES THAT WE'RE

NOW CONTINUING OR SETTING, THEY NEED TO KNOW IF IT'S 5:00

OR 6:00.

SO AT A MINIMUM, I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

I AM NOT A BIG FAN OF MAKING PEOPLE GO TO COURT WITH AN

APPEAL OF THE VRB OR A SIMILAR -- THE ARC OR THAT SORT OF

THING FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, BUT I THINK IT BECOMES AN

EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION AND BURDENSOME ON THE

CONSTITUENTS WHO OTHERWISE MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE A SIMPLE

MATTER THAT THEN TURNS INTO A COURT CASE.

ANYWAY, I THINK WORKSHOP IS APPROPRIATE, BUT I ALSO THINK

FOR PRACTICAL PURPOSES, I THINK WE NEED TO APPROVE WHAT

MS. FEELEY HAS SUGGESTED IN HER MEMO TODAY, AND IF WE

WANT TO ADD TO THAT OR MODIFY IT, WE CAN ALWAYS DO THAT.

12:44:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
RECOGNIZED, MR. SHELBY.




12:44:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I

WOULD AGREE.

AND MS. FEELEY'S MEMO IS SOMETHING THAT DOES NEED TO BE

ADDRESSED.

IT'S A PLAN THAT IF COUNCIL AGREES WITH, IS EASILY DONE.

YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THAT THUS FAR.

THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, COUNCIL, IS YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY

MADE A MOTION TO NOT GO PAST 11:00.

I'M JUST WONDERING, MS. FEELEY, HOW -- WHAT'S THE

SCHEDULING FOR THE NUMBER OF CASES UNDER THIS PROPOSAL

GOING FORWARD FOR A REGULAR NIGHT?

12:45:05 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
FOR THE REGULAR NIGHT, IT WOULD STILL BE

THE TEN CASES.

IN THE MY TRICKS I SHOWED YOU -- MATRIX I SHOWED ON

SEVERAL OCCASIONS, WE HAD 12 CASES ON THE AGENDA, WE

FINISHED AT 10 P.M.

EIGHT CASES ON THE AGENDA FINISHED AT 9:30 P.M.

AND THEN ON 9/23, 13 CASES ON THE AGENDA, THAT WAS

ACTUALLY THE NIGHT YOU HEARD THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF CASES

AT NINE CASES, BUT WE WERE DONE AT FIVE MINUTES TILL 9.

THE 5:01 START TIME, EVEN WITH THE VARYING NUMBER OF

CASES HAS BEEN A PRODUCTIVE WAY TO DEFINITELY ADDRESS

YOUR CONCERN AND HAVE YOU OUT WELL BEFORE WE DIDN'T GO

BEYOND 10 P.M.

THAT'S THE FIRST MATTER THAT REALLY DOES NEED ADDRESSING




TODAY AS WE ARE GETTING READY TO SET THE NOVEMBER AND

DECEMBER CASES.

WITH THE HOLIDAYS IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, WE ONLY HAVE

ONE, BUT WE ARE FULL.

WE STILL REMAIN FULL.

IT WILL BE ANTICIPATED IT WILL BE TEN CASES.

BUT AS YOU EXPERIENCE, SOME OF THEM CONTINUE, SOME OF

THEM MISNOTICE.

BUT WE WOULD BE SETTING TEN.

12:46:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.

12:46:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER SAID MR. VIERA HAD HIS

HAND UP FOR A WHILE.

12:46:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

AGAIN, WE GO TO THE UNKNOWN.

YOU MAY ONLY HAVE TEN CASES, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A

COUPLE OF DAYS AND I CAN TELL YOU ANOTHER THING --

12:46:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
TWO DAYS.

12:46:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
TWO OR THREE DAYS.

THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.

YOU MAY HAVE TWO CASES OUT OF TEN AND EACH CASE COULD BE

THREE HOURS.

I'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WHERE WE'VE HAD 150 PEOPLE DOWNSTAIRS

IN THE HALLWAYS, OUT IN THE STREET, AND WE HAD TO GO TO

THE CONVENTION CENTER AND EVEN THAT ONE WENT UNTIL 3:00

IN THE MORNING.




I'VE HAD CASES ON ALCOHOL ZONINGS THAT HAVE LASTED FOUR

HOURS ON ONE CASE.

ONE ONLY.

THESE ARE THE UNKNOWN VARIABLES THAT WE DO NOT KNOW WHEN

THEY ARE CALENDARED.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

THE TEN IS A NUMBER, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S

VARIABLE OR NOT VARIABLE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE

IN-DEPTH AMOUNT OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION THAT WE'RE GOING

TO HAVE.

I WELCOME THAT.

LET ME SAY THAT.

WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT NUMBER 10, 12,

8, DOESN'T MEAN, THAT'S A NUMBER.

THE INDIVIDUAL CASE THEMSELVES IS THE UNKNOWN VARIABLE OF

TIME WE SPEND ON MAYBE ONE OR TWO CASES THAT WOULD THROW

THE WHOLE THING OFF.

THAT'S A FACT.

12:47:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE, TWO

THINGS, THEY HAVE A CALENDAR THEY NEED TO SET TO GET THE

NOTICES OUT.

I'D BE IN FAVOR TO MOVE ALONG NOW.

BUT I WANT A SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

TO ADDRESS THE OTHER ISSUES, EXTRA DAY OR WE NEED A

ZONING MASTER, GO WHEREVER TO DO THOSE HEARINGS OR WHAT




HAVE YOU.

AND LET COUNCIL DECIDE SO THE CITY IS GETTING BUSIER.

IT AIN'T SLOWING DOWN.

IT'S GETTING BUSIER.

AGAIN, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE A LOT OF THINGS, BUT

IT MAY COME DOWN TO TWO DAYS.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT THOSE DAYS NEED TO BE DISCUSSED.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS,

FOR THE FIRST PORTION OF MS. FEELEY AND SOMEBODY

ENTERTAIN A MOTION, SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP AS SOON AS WE

CAN GET ONE ON THE CALENDAR.

12:48:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I MAKE THAT MOTION WITH THE SPECIFICS

OF A WORKSHOP.

WHEN DO YOU WANT THE WORKSHOP?

12:48:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU WANT TO TAKE UP MS. FEELEY'S

MATTER FIRST?

12:48:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MADAM CLERK, LOOK UP THE SOONEST DATE WE

CAN GET A SPECIAL-CALLED WORKSHOP.

12:48:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL, I HAVE THE CALENDAR IN FRONT OF

ME.

IN OCTOBER, WE HAVE MONDAY, OCTOBER 18, TUESDAY OCTOBER

19, OR MONDAY, OCTOBER 25.

OTHERWISE, WE GO --

12:49:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
18 TO THE 25.

12:49:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MONDAY IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.




12:49:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
25th I CAN'T BE HERE.

12:49:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
18 GOOD WITH EVERYBODY?

12:49:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'D HAVE TO GET THAT NOTICE OUT BY

MONDAY, COUNCIL.

IF YOU HAVE TO CHECK YOUR CALENDARS, MAYBE THAT'S TOO

SOON.

12:49:24 >> WHAT TIME?

12:49:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
GOOD QUESTION.

MORNING OR AFTERNOON.

EITHER WAY, THE CHAMBERS ARE AVAILABLE.

12:49:34 >> 1:
30.

12:49:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHICH DAY?

12:49:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ON THE 18th.

I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.

12:49:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
18th.

MONDAY.

12:49:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MR. CARLSON.

12:49:50 >>LUIS VIERA:
YEAH, COUNCILMAN BILL CARLSON IS A SEPARATE

ISSUE WITH HIS CALENDAR.

MAYBE YOU CAN CALL HIM, MR. SHELBY.

BUT THE OCTOBER 18th IS SURPRISINGLY OPEN.

12:50:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGAIN, I HAVE MY BRIEFINGS WITH CITY

STAFF IN THE MORNING ON THAT MONDAY.

BUT I'M SURE I CAN CHANGE THAT WITH CITY STAFF.

12:50:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
10 A.M.?




12:50:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
10 A.M. IS FINE.

12:50:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
10 A.M. ON THE 18th.

12:50:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP.

12:50:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MIRANDA HAS MOVED IT.

WORKSHOP OCTOBER 18, 10 A.M.

SECOND FROM ANYONE?

12:50:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BEFORE YOU TAKE THE VOTE, A REMINDER

COUNCIL, IS IT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE

WITH STAFF TO BE ABLE TO HAVE STAFF PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT, DO YOU WANT TO

HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT OR DO YOU WANT TO JUST HAVE IT --

12:50:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SURE.

12:50:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST SET IT UP.

12:50:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SET IT UP.

IT'S GOING TO BE PERTAINING TO THE PUBLIC, MR. SHELBY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY NOTICE IS COMPLETE.

12:50:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MIRANDA MADE THE MOTION.

SECOND, ANYONE?

SECOND MR. MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

MR. SHELBY NEEDS TO HEAR YOU.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED.

LET'S ENTERTAIN MS. FEELEY SO WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE




UNDER ITEM 67.

12:51:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT'S HER ITEM.

12:51:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT, INCORPORATE

AND ADOPT THE SUGGESTIONS OF MS. FEELEY'S MEMORANDUM.

RELATED TO SCHEDULING AND QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS.

12:51:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THROUGH CALENDAR YEAR 2022?

12:51:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YOU KNOW WHAT?

WHY DON'T WE BE A LITTLE MORE TENTATIVE AND SAY THROUGH

JUNE OF 2022.

12:51:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL WORKSHOP.

12:52:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WE STILL NEED TO GO INTO 2022 A LITTLE

BIT.

12:52:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ACTUALLY, COUNCIL, SORRY TO INTERRUPT,

BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IT'S AT LEAST SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS

IN ADVANCE.

WHEN YOU SAY JUNE, YOU'RE REALLY THINKING MARCH OR MAY.

12:52:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WHAT I'M SAYING --

12:52:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IN OTHER WORDS, THE STAFF HAS TO GET

DIRECTION WELL IN ADVANCE OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO

BEFORE THEY --

12:52:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
CONSIDERING WE JUST SET THIS WORKSHOP,

I'D APPRECIATE THE CHAIRMAN SAYING THAT, LET'S JUST SAY

THROUGH THE END OF MARCH OF 2022.

WHEN WE GO TO THE WORKSHOP, COME UP WITH SOMETHING

DIFFERENT, WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT.




12:52:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER MOVED IT.

MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIED.

LAST ITEM OF THE DAY, MR. SHELBY, 69, CHIEF BENNETT.

BEFORE WE GET STARTED, GENTLEMEN, I HAD A CONVERSATION

WITH MR. BENNETT AND MR. SHELBY IN REFERENCE TO THIS

ITEM.

I SUGGEST WE STICK WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING UNTIL JANUARY,

THAT WAY WE KNOW WHAT COVID IS, KNOW THE PROCESS, THE

BUDGET IS, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AFTER THAT WITH

ANY CHANGES.

12:53:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE COVID IS UP

AND DOWN AND CHANGES EVERY WEEK, EVERY DAY REALLY.

12:53:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. BENNETT.

12:53:22 >>JOHN BENNETT:
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.

I'VE CONSULTED WITH THE THREE MAJOR DEPARTMENTS,

INCLUDING DISCUSSING THIS AT OUR EXECUTIVE BRIEFING AND

ALL DEPARTMENTS ARE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING CARRYING THE

CMT PROGRAM THROUGH THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, AND

THEN WE CAN ADJUST ACCORDINGLY BASED ON THE NEEDS OF

COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.

12:53:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
NEED A MOTION, MR. SHELBY?

12:53:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, MR. DINGFELDER, I THINK A MOTION




WOULD BE IN ORDER THROUGH JANUARY.

BUT I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT THIS ISSUE BE RESOLVED, IF

WE'RE NOT GOING TO RESOLVE IT TODAY, RESOLVE IT AT THE

SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP.

AS I TALKED WITH MR. BENNETT THIS WEEK, GOING FORWARD,

THERE ARE GOING TO BE -- IF IT'S GOING TO BE PERMANENT,

WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE RULES TO BE PERMANENTLY CHANGED

AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO NEED TO BE ABLE TO STAFF AND

PROVIDE FACILITIES AND EQUIPMENT TO MAKE IT PERMANENT IF

THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE DOWN THE ROAD.

12:54:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE CAN DID YOU SAY.

HELD TO JANUARY.

IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT AT THE WORKSHOP.

12:54:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF IT'S ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE COUNCIL'S

PLEASURE TO KEEP CMT PERMANENTLY, IF THE DECISION IS

AVAILABLE TO BE MADE, IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, THEN

CERTAINLY IT GIVES THE ADMINISTRATION THE OPPORTUNITY TO

PREPARE FOR IT.

IF THAT'S ULTIMATELY COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED.

BECAUSE THE CONCERN I HAVE, COUNCIL, IS WE KEEP GETTING

E-MAILS ABOUT IT AND KICKING THAT CAN DOWN THE ROAD PUTS

THE PUBLIC -- IT DOESN'T PUT THE MATTER TO BED FOR THE

PUBLIC ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

THEY ARE ALWAYS IN FEAR OR CONCERN, NOT FEAR --




12:55:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THE E-MAILS

RIGHT NOW.

CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE COUNCIL.

12:55:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M NOT -- THAT'S TWO SEPARATE ISSUES,

COUNCIL.

TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.

NUMBER ONE IS WHETHER WE KEEP REMOTE PARTICIPATION AN

OPTION PERMANENTLY.

THE SECOND OPTION IS TOTALLY SEPARATE, AND THAT'S WHETHER

TO COME BACK INTO THE THIRD FLOOR.

12:55:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. SHELBY, ALL DUE RESPECT, I DON'T

THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THAT UP ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY

UNLESS OTHER COUNCILMEN WANT TO.

I THINK THAT DAY IS GOING TO BE FILLED WITH WHAT WE NEED

TO TALK ABOUT IN REFERENCE TO ZONING HEARINGS AND SO

FORTH.

IF WE'RE KICKING IT DOWN THE ROAD SAY WE KEEP IT

IMPLEMENTED UNTIL JANUARY, I THINK WE MEAN JANUARY IN

REFERENCE TO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

OTHER COUNCILMEN CAN CHIME IN WHAT THEY FEEL.

12:55:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ONE OTHER THING, MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE HAS

ALSO BEEN SUGGESTIONS AND COUNCIL WILL CERTAINLY HAVE THE

OPPORTUNITY AND TIME TO SAY THIS PUBLICLY, ALSO BEEN

OTHER -- OTHER THAN REZONING AND OTHER THAN HEARINGS

THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER SUGGESTIONS MADE TO STREAMLINE THE




AGENDA, PARTICULARLY RELATIVE TO, FOR INSTANCE, SETTING

ANOTHER DAY EXCLUSIVELY ONCE A MONTH FOR COMMENDATIONS

OTHER THAN THE THREE UNIONS AND LIMITING HOW MANY

COMMENDATIONS PER COUNCIL MEMBER SHOW UP ON THAT

PARTICULAR COMMENDATION DAY.

12:56:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WHO MADE THAT SUGGESTION?

WHO MADE THAT?

12:56:33 >>LUIS VIERA:
I DID.

IF I MAY, MAY I, MR. CHAIR?

12:56:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, SIR, YOU CAN.

12:56:38 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, I DID A PRIVATE MEMO TO MARTY WHICH I CAN MAKE

COMMENT.

IT'S NOT SECRETIVE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WHERE I MADE A

FEW SUGGESTIONS INCLUDING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

MAYBE IN LIEU OF LOOKING AT A NEW MEETING, HAVING ONCE A

MONTH WHERE WE MEET BRIEFLY FOR COMMENDATIONS, JUST A

SUGGESTION.

LIMITING THE NUMBER OF COMMENDATIONS THAT EACH COUNCIL

MEMBER CAN DO A MONTH.

THAT'S GEARED AT PEOPLE LIKE ME.

LIMITING MAYBE THE NUMBER OF STAFF REPORTS THAT ARE HEARD

PER COUNCIL MEETING, INCLUDING LIMITING THE AMOUNT THAT

EACH MEMBER CAN MOTION FOR EACH MEETING, AMONG OTHER

THINGS.




IT COULD INCREMENTAL MAKE REDUCTIONS.

12:57:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I RESPECT ALL YOUR COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN

VIERA, BUT I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS YOU DESCRIBED,

SOMETIMES WE CAN'T CONTROL SOMETIMES.

SOMETIMES THINGS DO COME UP, AND SOMETIMES -- SO I WOULD

SAY WE CAN LOOK AT THEM, BUT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF

WE NEED TO GO THAT ROUTE JUST AS YET.

IT CAN ALL BE LOOKED AND COME TO THE ROUNDTABLE

DISCUSSION.

MR. DINGFELDER.

12:57:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JUMPED OUT AT

ME, LUIS, THAT YOU MENTIONED, WAS SORT OF A CEREMONIAL

DAY.

IF WE DID IT ONCE A MONTH, MAYBE WE CAN INCLUDE THE

OFFICER AND FIGHTER AND ATU COMMENDATIONS AS WELL AS OUR

OWN COMMENDATIONS.

OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMENDATIONS

COMING UP AS WELL.

BUT I THINK IF WE HAD A CEREMONIAL DAY ONCE A MONTH, IT

WOULD HELP US OUT ON OUR REGULAR MEETINGS.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SPENDING SOMETIMES AN HOUR BEFORE WE

EVEN GET GOING.

THEN THAT PUSHES US INTO AN AFTERNOON AND IF WE HAVE A

NIGHT MEETING, IT BECOMES EXACERBATED.

MR. VIERA, THE FIRST THING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH, I REALLY




SUPPORT AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE IS A

CEREMONIAL DAY.

IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO

BE CELEBRATED ON OUR CABLE TELEVISION AND IN FRONT OF US

AND THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT JUST CREATES A SEPARATE DAY TO

DO IT.

12:59:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT CAN BE TAKEN UP AT

THE WORKSHOP, TOO.

12:59:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND AND SAY I'M

VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT CONCEPT.

12:59:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT'S WHAT THE WORKSHOP IS FOR,

GENTLEMEN.

CHIEF BENNETT, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, SIR?

12:59:22 >>JOHN BENNETT:
NO, SIR.

JUST STANDING BY.

12:59:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MR. SHELBY, I'M SORRY.

I'LL WAIT UNTIL AFTER YOU BECAUSE MR. SHELBY SUGGESTED WE

NEED A MOTION --

12:59:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IT'S 1:00.

12:59:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO TO

1:15.

CHIEF BENNETT, VERY SIMPLE QUESTION, CHIEF, YOU'RE ON TOP

OF EVERYTHING.

HOW MANY OF THE BOARDS OR MAGISTRATE MEETINGS HAVE PEOPLE

UP HERE ON THE THIRD FLOOR?




I UNDERSTAND VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AND CODE ENFORCEMENT

HAVE PEOPLE UP ON THE THIRD FLOOR.

01:00:09 >>JOHN BENNETT:
THE FEEDBACK THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH,

COUNCILMAN CITRO, IS THAT DUE TO SIZE AND SCALE AND

SCOPE, THAT MOST OF THEM SEEM TO OPERATE ON THE THIRD

FLOOR CLEARLY, A MUCH DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN THE EBB

AND FLOW OF COUNCIL INTERACTION.

01:00:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WITHOUT A DOUBT.

THEY DON'T LET ALL THE PEOPLE GIVING EVIDENCE UP ON THE

THIRD FLOOR ONE TIME.

IT IS DONE INCREMENTAL, CORRECT?

01:00:37 >>JOHN BENNETT:
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THERE IS KIND OF

AN AMBASSADOR SIDE TO THE EQUATION WHERE THEY NAVIGATE

THE PUBLIC AND STAFF IN AND OUT.

AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SOME SORT OF A RHYTHM.

AND TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S POINT EARLIER ABOUT THE GOOD

NEWS IS THAT COVID SEEMS TO BE ON THE DECLINE.

OUR POLICIES SEEM TO BE HOLDING WELL FOR THE LINE LEVEL

AND MANAGEMENT AND, OF COURSE, COUNCIL INTERACTION.

AGAIN, MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE SUSTAIN WHAT WE'RE DOING

UNTIL JANUARY FOR ALL THE REASONS WE KNOW.

BUT, YES, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DO THINK THERE IS

MOSTLY ENGAGEMENT ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE OTHER

HEARINGS.

01:01:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.




01:01:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.

I THOUGHT WE HAD A STANDARD.

NOW EVERYONE IS DOING THEIR OWN THING?

I THOUGHT THERE WAS A STANDARD, PROTOCOL SET BY THIS

COUNCIL HOW WE WOULD OPERATE SO EACH OF THESE BOARDS ARE

OPERATING IN AN INDEPENDENT FASHION?

01:01:40 >>JOHN BENNETT:
I WOULD DEFER THAT TO LEGAL, CHAIRMAN.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE BOARDS CAN OPERATE AS THEY NEED

TO.

01:01:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE OTHER BOARDS.

BUT THIS IS COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

CAN LEGAL ANSWER THAT QUESTION?

01:01:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I CAN PREFACE IT BY SAYING A COUPLE OF

THINGS, COUNCIL.

FROM THE TIME YOU LEFT THE CONVENTION CENTER TO THE TIME

YOU CAME BACK TO THESE CHAMBERS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE

LOWER BOARDS ALSO USED THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.

AND WHEN THEY CAME BACK, THEY HAD A DIFFERENT KIND OF

SETUP THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE ON THE THIRD FLOOR.

ALSO DO KEEP IN MIND THERE IS A DISINFECTANT SCHEDULE FOR

THIS PARTICULAR THIRD FLOOR AS WELL, THAT THE PROTOCOL,

FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IS STILL BEING FOLLOWED TO MAKE

SURE THIS ROOM IS PROPERLY DISINFECTED.

01:02:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MS. ZELMAN OR MR. MASSEY?

01:02:42 >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
I GUESS THE WAY TO ANSWER THAT IS EACH




OF THESE BOARDS HAS WORKED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND

WITH FACILITIES MANAGEMENT TO CONDUCT THEIR MEETINGS IN

THE WAY THEY FELT WOULD BE THE MOST PRODUCTIVE AND THE

MOST SAFE.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ALL OF THEM, CODE

ENFORCEMENT, ALL THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD, THE

ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, THE HISTORIC BOARDS HAVE A PROCESS

WHEREBY THEY HAVE A WAITING AREA AND THEY BRING PEOPLE IN

IN SMALL GROUPS AS EACH CASE IS HEARD.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE CHAMBERS AREN'T ALL FULL AT ONE

TIME.

IT'S LIMITED CAPACITY, BUT, YES, THEY DO HAVE IN-PERSON

APPEARANCES RATHER THAN KEEPING PEOPLE ON THE SECOND

FLOOR OR USING CMT.

01:03:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I RESPECT THAT.

MY OTHER SIDE TELLS ME WE ARE THE CITY COUNCIL AND WE

OPERATE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THOSE OTHER BOARDS, AND WE

HAVE A HIGHER RESPONSIBILITY.

ALL THE BOARDS HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES.

BUT MAKE SURE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE HERE SAFE TO RUN

THE CITY.

JUST TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT.

WE ALREADY MOTIONED TO KEEP IT UNTIL JANUARY.

FROM THERE, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE DO AT THE SPECIAL WORKSHOP

TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.




THE PUBLIC IS CONCERNED WHY WE'RE NOT DOING WHAT THEY ARE

DOING.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION, WHY IS EVERYBODY

DIFFERENT?

WE FOUND OUT WHY EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE EVERYBODY

IS DOING IT THE WAY THEY WANT TO DO IT.

JANUARY, KEEP IT WHERE WE ARE.

DISCUSS OPENING IT BACK UP AT THE WORKSHOP.

01:04:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WAS THAT DONE IN THE FORM OF A MOTION,

MADAM CLERK?

01:04:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I MAKE THE MOTION EXTEND TO JANUARY

THE WAY WE ARE.

01:04:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MIRANDA MADE THE MOTION.

MR. MANISCALCO SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

01:04:33 >>THE CLERK:
KEEP THE MOTION CURRENTLY ON THE AGENDA OR

REVISE IT OR CONTINUING THE ITEM?

01:04:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I SUGGEST YOU CHANGE THE FORM OF THE

MOTION BECAUSE THE MOTION RIGHT NOW, HOW IT APPEARS ON

THE AGENDA WAS --

01:04:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE'RE CONTINUING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

01:04:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BASICALLY, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO

FRAME IT AS AN UPDATE ON PROCEDURES RELATIVE TO COUNCIL

CHAMBERS AND THE USE OF CMT.




SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

01:05:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS ALL RELATED TO

COVID.

YEAH, ONE DAY IT'S COMING DOWN.

THE NEXT DAY GOING UP.

IT'S LIKE A SEESAW, UP AND DOWN, UP AND DOWN.

IN OTHER WORDS, KEEP THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND ALL THAT'S

REQUIRED NOT ONLY FOR OUR OWN EMPLOYEES BUT FOR THE

PEOPLE WHO COME IN FOR THE HEARINGS THAT WE CONTINUE THIS

TILL JANUARY 1st, OR 29th OF DECEMBER I SHOULD SAY.

WHATEVER THE LAST DAY OF DECEMBER IS, THE YEAR 2021 AND

WE'LL MAKE THE DECISIONS, THE FIRST MEETING IN 2022 WHAT

HAPPENS THEREAFTER.

01:05:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ASK MAYBE WE JUST CONTINUE IT TO THE

NEXT DATE THAT YOU SET IN JANUARY.

I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE CHIEF OF STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED.

01:05:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
GO WITH THAT.

I THINK WE'RE ON BREAK --

01:05:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FIRST MEETING YOU COME BACK IN JANUARY

IS JANUARY 13.

01:05:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
JANUARY 13 IS THE DAY WE SHOULD MAKE

THAT RECOMMENDATION, MR. CHAIRMAN.

01:06:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.

SECONDED BY MR. CITRO.

ALL IN FAVOR?




ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIED.

I'M LOOKING AT 60 AND 61.

01:06:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THERE WERE THREE ITEMS, MR. CHAIRMAN.

ACTUALLY, FRANKLY, A FOURTH BECAUSE THERE'S NEW BUSINESS

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PREVIOUSLY FILED THAT WAS

NOT -- WAS GIVEN INSUFFICIENT TIME FOR SOMEBODY TO FILE

NOTICE.

IT COMES DOWN TO THAT ISSUE AGAIN OF REVIEW HEARINGS.

DOES COUNCIL WANT TO HAVE 10:30 A.M. REVIEW HEARINGS --

YOU COULD PUT THESE ITEMS OFF, IS THAT APPROPRIATE TO PUT

THIS ITEM OFF, MADAM CLERK, TO CONTINUE THESE SUBJECTS

UNTIL AFTER THAT WORKSHOP AND BRING IT BACK ON THE AGENDA

AFTER THAT WORKSHOP OR DO YOU NEED TO KNOW NOW?

01:06:55 >>THE CLERK:
WE NEED TO KNOW NOW.

01:06:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WHY NOT PUT THEM INTO THE ALCOHOLIC

BEVERAGE NIGHTS.

01:07:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS YOU

CAN DO.

01:07:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THAT'S THE OPTION I'M SUGGESTING.

01:07:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT, MR.

DINGFELDER.

01:07:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
IT'S A HEARING.

IT'S NOT GREAT TO HAVE THEM IN THE MORNING BECAUSE WE

HAVE SO MUCH ELSE TO DO.




01:07:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.

01:07:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
PUT THESE --

01:07:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THERE ARE NO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN

NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

I GUESS THIS WOULD BE IN JANUARY.

DOES STAFF HAVE A POSITION, MS. FEELEY, WITH REGARD TO

THIS?

01:07:39 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
ABBYE FEELEY, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND

GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THERE IS NO SECOND HEARING IN DECEMBER -- NOVEMBER OR

DECEMBER.

SO THE NEXT AVAILABLE HEARING WOULD BE, I BELIEVE,

JANUARY 20th, IF I COULD CONFIRM THAT WITH THE CLERK.

01:07:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE ALCOHOLIC NIGHT --

01:08:01 >>THE CLERK:
JANUARY 27.

01:08:01 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I'M SORRY, THE 27TH.

FIRST AND THIRD YOU MEET IN THE MORNING.

SECOND AND FOURTH YOU MEET AT NIGHT.

SO JANUARY 27.

01:08:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
IS THAT AN ALCOHOL NIGHT?

01:08:16 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THAT WOULD BE AN ALCOHOL EVENING, YES.

01:08:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I'D LIKE TO MOVE --

01:08:16 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
AND THE ALCOHOL CASES FOR THAT CYCLE




WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN FILED YET, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW

MANY WILL BE THERE YET.

BUT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, ROUGHLY AVERAGE 3 TO 5.

SO THE REVIEW HEARINGS COULD BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA

AFTER THOSE ALCOHOL HEARINGS.

AND YOU WOULD STILL BE BEGINNING AT 5:01 P.M.

01:08:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
IF IT'S OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE

ITEMS 50 --

01:08:43 >>THE CLERK:
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

WE LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF REVIEW HEARINGS PER REGULAR

SESSION TO 2.

DO WE WANT TO DO THAT FOR THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES BEING

THAT SOMETIMES THE REVIEW HEARINGS ARE LENGTHY?

DO WE WANT TO SCHEDULE TWO FOR JANUARY 27 AND THE OTHER

TWO FOR FEBRUARY 24th?

01:08:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.

01:09:02 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
OH, WAIT, WAIT.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

SORRY.

COUNCIL, YOU DO HAVE YOUR COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS THAT NIGHT

ON THE JANUARY 27.

01:09:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
ARE THEY PARK COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS OR

ARE THEY --

01:09:17 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THERE ARE FOUR OF FIVE TOTAL COMP PLAN

ENDMENTS.




ONE WAS THE CONTINUED ONE FROM THE OTHER EVENING AND THEN

FOUR ARE NEW.

01:09:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
ARE THEY THOSE PARK CASES THAT REALLY

DON'T TAKE MUCH --

01:09:34 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT AND CONFIRM THAT

FOR YOU.

I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME.

01:09:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY UNDERSTANDING IS -- I CAN'T SAY --

BUT I THINK THEY ARE WINDING DOWN.

THEY ARE COMPLETING THEIR TASKS.

01:09:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
CAN WE CARRY OVER THIS DECISION UNTIL

THE WORKSHOP ON THE 18th?

01:09:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE CLERK SAYS NO.

01:09:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
CLERK SAYS NO.

ABBYE SAYS YES.

01:09:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CAN ALL OF THESE ITEMS TO BE SET BE

MOVED AS CONTINUED OR TO BRING THEM BACK ON THE NEXT

REGULAR MEETING TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE TO SET THE DATE,

MADAM CLERK OR NOT?

01:10:10 >>THE CLERK:
ARE YOU ASKING THAT THESE ITEMS BE CONTINUED

TO BE SCHEDULING TO THE NEXT REGULAR SESSION WHICH IS

OCTOBER 21st?

01:10:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.

01:10:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BY THEN WE'LL HAVE A QUICK ANSWER.

01:10:24 >>THE CLERK:
YES, BECAUSE THAT WILL GIVE THE APPLICANTS




AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE NOTICE BY JANUARY.

IT STILL SHOULD GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME.

01:10:35 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I JUST WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT ON THAT.

SINCE THOSE APPLICANTS DID NOT PERFECT NOTICE TODAY, THAT

WOULDN'T BE A CONTINUANCE OF THESE CASES.

THEY WOULD, IN FACT, HAVE TO RENOTICE EITHER WAY.

THEY ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO BE HEARD TODAY.

SINCE YOU WOULDN'T BE CONTINUING THEM, THEY WOULD BE

REQUIRED TO PROVIDE NEW PUBLIC NOTICE.

SO I THINK THAT EVEN IF YOU REMOVE THEM FROM YOUR AGENDA

TODAY AND THEN INFORM THE APPLICANT OF WHEN THEY WOULD BE

HEARD, THEY WOULD STILL NEED TO BE PROVIDING PUBLIC

NOTICE EITHER DIRECTION YOU TOOK TODAY.

SO I THINK THAT FIRST DIRECTION WHERE YOU SAID COULD YOU

MAKE A DECISION, AND THEN INFORM THE APPLICANT, ONCE YOU

HAD YOUR SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP, I DO THINK THAT WOULD

STILL BE A VIABLE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU AS WELL.

01:11:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
LET'S FINALIZE --

01:11:30 >>THE CLERK:
WE COULD PLACE THE ITEMS ON OCTOBER 21st

TO BE SCHEDULED TO A FUTURE DATE.

01:11:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THAT'S FINE.

01:11:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

01:11:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MIRANDA SECONDED.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?




WE GOT THAT OUT OF THE WAY, GENTLEMEN.

01:11:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PEOPLE HAVE SEEN HOW SAUSAGE IS MADE.

01:11:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY NEW BUSINESS FROM ANYBODY?

MR. MANISCALCO.

01:11:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, LET'S

SEE HERE, IN REGARDS TO WHAT MS. SANCHEZ MENTIONED THIS

MORNING REGARDING DENIALS BY THE CITY AND THEN CERTAIN

DEVELOPER, UNNAMED DEVELOPER WAS THEN GETTING APPROVALS.

SHE HAD MENTIONED THE ALLEYS BEING CLEARED AND WHATNOT.

I JUST WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

WE HAVE AN E-MAIL SENT BY HER THAT GOES INTO FURTHER

DETAIL, SPECIFIC CASES AND WHATNOT AND WHAT HAPPENED.

DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE AND THEN OVERTURNED.

IF WE COULD GET A REPORT FROM SOMEBODY IN THAT DEPARTMENT

ON NOVEMBER 4 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

01:12:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MR. MANISCALCO, IF I COULD ADD SO

THERE'S MORE SPECIFICITY, BECAUSE SHE MENTIONS THREE

ADDRESSES.

I WON'T MENTION THE DEVELOPER, BUT I'LL PUT THE ADDRESSES

ON THE RECORD SO STAFF CAN FOCUS.

2428 WEST CARMEN, 2508 WEST CARMEN, AND 2509 WEST NORTH

B.

01:12:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, THOSE ARE THE ONES.

THANK YOU.

01:13:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST FOR THE RECORD, I DID PROVIDE THAT




LETTER TO THE CLERK FOR THE CLERK'S FILE, AND THAT LETTER

WAS REQUESTED BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, AND I HAVE

FORWARDED TO THEM.

01:13:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANISCALCO MADE A MOTION.

MR. DINGFELDER, YOU MADE AN ADD-ON TO THE MOTION AND YOU

SECONDED.

HE ACCEPTED IT.

SECONDED BY MR. DINGFELDER.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIED.

ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

MR. CITRO.

01:13:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NO, NOTHING TODAY.

01:13:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER?

01:13:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SO LEGAL AND PLANNING STAFF ARE WORKING ON THE ISSUE OF

NOTICE ALONG WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THAN AND THAT SORT OF

THING AND TWEAKING UP OUR NOTICE PROVISIONS, PERHAPS

EXPANDING THE SCOPE OF OUR NOTICE PROVISIONS, ET CETERA.

I'M NOT SURE WHEN THAT'S COMING BACK.

IF THERE'S ANYBODY ON STAFF WHO KNOWS THAT DATE, THAT

WOULD BE HELPFUL.

BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS ADD THE QUESTION THAT WAS

RAISED BY MS. SANCHEZ AND THAN AND OTHER FOLKS IN THE




COMMUNITY ABOUT DESIGN EXCEPTIONS BECAUSE CLEARLY WE KNOW

THAT REZONINGS ARE NOTICED AND POSTED AND ALL THAT, BUT

APPARENTLY DESIGN EXCEPTIONS DO NOT RECEIVE THE SAME TYPE

OF NOTICE.

I WOULD JUST LIKE STAFF TO INCLUDE THE ISSUE OF DESIGN

EXCEPTIONS WHEN THEY DO THEIR ANALYSIS AND THEIR REPORT

THAT'S UPCOMING.

I WISH I HAD THE DATE.

DO YOU KNOW THE DATE?

01:14:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I KNOW THE DATE THAT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED.

THE DATE RECOMMENDED IS TO ADD IT TO THE FEBRUARY

WORKSHOP ON FEBRUARY 24th BECAUSE THAT IS LAND

DEVELOPMENT SPECIFIC FOR THE MOST PART AND THEY HAVE

MENTIONED THAT ON THE LINE.

IS THAT CORRECT, MS. FEELY? DID I GET THAT DATE RIGHT?

01:14:58 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL, AND THANK YOU, MR.

SHELBY.

YES, SO RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF ITEMS

ON YOUR OCTOBER 28th WORKSHOP AND HAD ALREADY MOVED

SEVERAL OF THEM.

SO WE HAD PROCESSED OR IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER

A MEMORANDUM TO ASK TO MOVE SEVERAL TO FEBRUARY 24th

BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE WORKSHOPS IN NOVEMBER OR

DECEMBER, AND YOUR FIRST ONE BACK IN JANUARY HAS SOME

ITEMS ON IT.




SO WE'RE SENDING YOU A MEMO.

IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING FINALIZED, HATE TO SPEAK OUT

OF TURN, TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE SEVERAL LAND DEVELOPMENT

PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT ITEMS TO THAT FEBRUARY

WORKSHOP AND TO REALLY GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ITEMS

SUCH AS TODAY, TO DEDICATE THAT WORKSHOP TO THOSE TYPES

OF ITEMS SO THAT ANYTHING THAT COMES UP IN BETWEEN NOW

AND THEN, WE WOULD TARGET THAT DATE AND THAT ALLOWS STAFF

THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AHEAD AND BE READY TO REPORT BACK

TO YOU ON THAT DATE, TO NOT HAVE THESE THINGS MOVING ALL

OVER THE PLACE FOR YOU, AND TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE

DISCUSSION AT THAT TIME.

01:16:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YOU SAID FEBRUARY 22nd?

24th.

01:16:12 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
FEBRUARY 24th.

01:16:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MODIFY MY MOTION

SLIGHTLY TO REQUEST THAT STAFF AT THE FEBRUARY 24th

WORKSHOP INCLUDE THE ISSUE AND PREPARE FOR IN ADVANCE AND

INCLUDE THE ISSUE OF A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE

SUGGESTIONS AS RELATED TO DESIGN EXCEPTION, NOTICE, AND

POSTINGS.

01:16:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

MR. SHELBY.

01:16:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MS. FEELEY, IN REGARD TO THE REST OF




YOUR ITEMS, YOU'RE BRINGING THOSE BACK TO US AT ANOTHER

DATE TO SCHEDULE FOR THE 24th?

01:16:53 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THAT MEMO IS BEING FINALIZED.

THOSE ITEMS ARE CURRENTLY SITTING ON THE 28th, AND WE

DID IDENTIFY THOSE.

THAT'S THE LOCAL ACCESS, THE HEIGHT AND MASS, AND THEN I

BELIEVE THE DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC NOTICE WITH THE

ENDMENT THAT HAD COME IN POTENTIALLY FROM SOUTH OF

GANDY, MS. POYNOR AND MS. BENNETT.

THOSE THREE WOULD BE MOVED TO THE 24th AS WELL.

LaCHONE HAD REACHED OUT TO CARROLL ANN AND STEPHANIE

AND THEY WERE OKAY WITH MOVING THAT.

THE MEMO DESCRIBES ALL THAT.

I APOLOGIZE FOR JUMPING AHEAD OF THE WAGON ON THAT ONE.

GIVEN THAT THE DISCUSSION HAD GONE THAT WAY THIS MORNING,

I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE RIGHT TO TELL YOU THAT WAS OUR

INTENTION AS WELL TO GO AHEAD AND SET THAT DATE FOR YOU

ALL TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

01:17:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
APPROPRIATE FOR US TO WAIT FOR THE

MEMO.

01:17:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MS. FEELEY, IF I CAN, A QUESTION, ON

SEPTEMBER 28, COUNCIL RECEIVED A MEMO FROM RANDY GOERS

REGARDING REQUESTING TIME ON THE OCTOBER 28th WORKSHOP

FOR A PRESENTATION OR REPORT ON THE STATUS OF GROWTH

MANAGEMENT AND PLANNING ACTIVITIES IDENTIFIED IN THE




DECEMBER 3rd, 2020 CITY COUNCIL GROWTH MANAGEMENT

WORKSHOP RELATED TO THE CITY VISION AND TAMPA PLAN AND

THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT PLANNING PROGRAM.

DOES THE DEPARTMENT STILL WANT THAT TO BE SCHEDULED FOR

OCTOBER 28th?

01:18:21 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
YES.

MR. GOERS HAD ASKED THAT BECAUSE HE'S IN THE PROCESS OF

PREPARING FOR RETIREMENT.

AND THAT IS, IN FACT, WHY I MOVED MY ITEMS TO ALLOW HIM

THAT TIME TO GIVE YOU THOSE REPORTS BECAUSE HE WOULD NOT

BE AVAILABLE AT YOUR WORKSHOP IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY.

SO I DID WANT TO TEAM UP WITH HIM, ASK THAT WE MOVE THOSE

OTHER ITEMS SO HE CAN REPORT TO YOU ON THE CRITICAL

MATTERS HE NEEDED TO PRIOR TO HIS RETIREMENT.

01:18:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS THERE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, MR.

CHAIRMAN AT THIS TIME, MADAM CLERK?

MAY I ASK THAT COUNCIL THEN MAKE THAT NOTION SET THAT

WORKSHOP FOR OCTOBER 28, 2021, PURSUANT TO RANDY GOERS

MOTION OF SEPTEMBER 28, 2021 WHICH I'M GOING TO PROVIDE

TO THE CLERK.

01:19:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
TO ADD THAT TO THE LIST OF THE

WORKSHOP.

01:19:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ON OCTOBER 28.

01:19:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BASED ON THE NEW DISCOVERY, WE SHOULD

SET THAT FOR THE 28th, MR. CHAIRMAN.




01:19:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION BY MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY DINGFELDER.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIED.

ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

01:19:27 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

01:19:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.

MR. DINGFELDER.

01:19:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I'M SORRY, SO MS. VIDOVIC BROUGHT UP

SOME ISSUES, AND I'M NOT GOING TO ASK FOR REPORTS ON ALL

OF THEM AT THIS TIME.

BUT THE ONE WE DID FOCUS ON IN REGARD TO BATHROOMS -- AND

I'M NOT GOING TO PUT THIS ON THE CHIEF'S SHOULDERS.

I THINK IT'S REALLY A FACILITIES QUESTION, BUT I WOULD

ASK THAT THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT, WORKING IN

CONJUNCTION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, GIVE US A REPORT ON

THE STATUS OF BATHROOMS IN ALL THE FIREHOUSES AND COME

BACK TO US LET'S SAY -- I DON'T KNOW, FEBRUARY, I THINK

WOULD BE FINE.

WHAT'S THE MEETING IN FEBRUARY?

REGULAR MEETING?

01:20:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
QUESTION IS, DID YOU WANT TO HAVE A

WRITTEN REPORT PRIOR TO THAT?

01:20:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
NO, THEY CAN PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT




AT OUR FEBRUARY MEETING AND WE'LL PUT IT ON STAFF

REPORTS.

FEBRUARY 3rd.

01:20:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION BY MR. DINGFELDER.

FEBRUARY 3rd.

01:20:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
A REAL COMPREHENSIVE REPORT ABOUT NOT

ONLY THE EXISTING RESTROOM SITUATION, WHETHER OR NOT ITS

MEN, WOMEN, UNISEX, WHAT HAVE YOU, SHOWERS, CAPTAIN'S

RESTROOMS, REALLY A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT STATION BY

STATION, AND THAT'S WHY I'M GIVING THEM OR COUNCIL WOULD

GIVE THEM 90 DAYS TO DO THAT.

BUT ALSO WHAT THE CONSTRAINTS ARE AND APPROXIMATE PRICES

OF MITIGATING AND REMEDIATING ANY DEFICIENCIES THAT WE

HAVE.

01:21:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION MR. DINGFELDER.

SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIED.

01:21:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

01:21:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M NOT GOING TO BE THE 18th.

I'M AT TAMPA BAY WATER.

THAT'S FINE.

I CAN HANDLE BOTH OF THEM.

01:21:54 >>LUIS VIERA:
MR. CHAIR, JUST VERY BRIEFLY, A COUPLE OF




MOTIONS.

I MOTION -- AND I MENTIONED THIS AND KIND OF BUILD ON

WHAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS TALKING ABOUT, MARCH

WORKSHOP, WE HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THE SCHOOLS AND PROGRAMS

TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE

AVAILABLE WHEN IT COMES TO PTSD.

I'M ALSO GOING TO SPEAK TO THE FAMILY OF COMING AND

SPEAKING AS WELL TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT ISSUE.

I'D LOVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT REALLY DIFFICULT

ISSUE.

01:22:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE HEARING

YOU, MR. VIERA.

WAS THAT A MOTION?

01:22:39 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.

REPEAT IT.

01:22:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
TIGHT MOTION.

01:22:48 >>LUIS VIERA:
I DIDN'T TYPE IT.

I MOTION AT THE MARCH 2022 WORKSHOP WE HAVE A WORKSHOP ON

PTSD RELATED ASSISTANCE AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE

TO MEMBERS OF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TAMPA FIRE

RESCUE.

01:23:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.

01:23:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION BY MR. VIERA.

SECONDED BY MR. CITRO.

ALL IN FAVOR.




ANY OPPOSED?

01:23:12 >>LUIS VIERA:
BRIEFLY, IF I MAY, MOTION FOR COMMENDATION

TO BE PRESENTED TO McDONALD TRAINING CENTER AT THEIR

UPCOMING EVENT IN NOVEMBER.

01:23:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECONDED BY MR. CITRO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIED.

01:23:28 >>LUIS VIERA:
LASTLY, IF I MAY, I MOTION FOR THE LEGAL

DEPARTMENT AND/OR INFRASTRUCTURE TO REPORT -- AND I'VE

ALREADY SPOKEN WITH THEM ON THIS -- TO REPORT ON THE

CREATION OF A SECOND CHANCE ORDINANCE FOR THE FEBRUARY

17th REGULAR SESSION, AND THAT THIS REPORT INCLUDE THE

FOLLOWING ELEMENTS: ENCOURAGING CONTRACTORS THROUGH THE

POINT SYSTEM TO UTILIZE THE MAIN POLICIES THROUGHOUT THE

HIRING PROCESS, AND A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND THE

COUNTY ON A PILOT APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM FOR RETURNING

CITIZENS.

01:24:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND BY MR. CITRO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIED.

01:24:10 >>LUIS VIERA:
AS PART OF THAT, I SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS.

I'M SORRY.

I'M SICK.




I'M ALSO WORKING WITH OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS ON THE

PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, ABE BROWN MINISTRIES, THE

CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, JCC FEDERATION, AND THE FLORIDA

RIGHTS RESTORATION.

I WOULD ASK THAT THEY COME FOR A FIVE-MINUTE PRESENTATION

ALSO ON THAT DAY TO TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY INITIATIVES FOR

RETURNING CITIZENS.

01:24:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL FIVE OF THOSE?

01:24:42 >>LUIS VIERA:
ONE OR TWO WILL COME.

REPRESENTATIVES.

01:24:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT WILL TAKE MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES,

MR. VIERA.

01:24:50 >>LUIS VIERA:
I'LL DO TEN.

01:24:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANISCALCO MOVED IT.

01:25:01 >>LUIS VIERA:
FEBRUARY 17.

01:25:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIED.

01:25:05 >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S IT.

01:25:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MIRANDA.

01:25:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, SIR.

I DON'T HAVE ANY AT ALL.

IF I DID, I'D HOLD THEM UNTIL THE END OF MY TERM.

01:25:15 >> MOVE TO GO TO 1:
30.

01:25:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL, THERE IS THAT ISSUE RELATIVE TO




-- I'VE BEEN INFORMED BY THE CLERK, SU1-21-31-C, I

BELIEVE WAS PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED BY COUNCIL -- I DON'T

RECALL WHICH AGENDA IT WAS.

LAST AGENDA, MADAM CLERK.

01:25:42 >>THE CLERK:
YES.

01:25:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NOVEMBER 4, 10:30 A.M.

THAT DOESN'T ALLOW SUFFICIENT TIME FOR NOTICE TO GET OUT.

SO CAN THIS BE HELD, HOWEVER THE CLERK IS GOING TO

CHARACTERIZE IT, ALONG WITH 58, 60, AND 61 TODAY TO BE

ABLE TO DISCUSS AFTER THE WORKSHOP AND SET AFTER THE

WORKSHOP?

01:26:02 >>THE CLERK:
SCHEDULE IT FOR OCTOBER 21st TO BE

SCHEDULED.

01:26:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TO BE SCHEDULED ON OCTOBER 21st.

BUT NOT FOR THAT DATE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO RESCHEDULE IT

BUT WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO DO IT JUST LIKE WE'RE NOT

PREPARED TO DO IT FOR THE OTHER THREE.

01:26:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YOU WANT ME TO MODIFY THE EARLIER

MOTION?

01:26:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ACTUALLY RESCIND THE EARLIER MOTION AND

CONTINUE THE SCHEDULING OF THIS ITEM TO OCTOBER 21st.

01:26:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SO MOVED.

01:26:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER MOVED.

MR. MANISCALCO SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR?




ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIED.

QUICKLY, GENTLEMEN, MARK WILFALK IS RETIRING.

COMMENDATION FOR MR. WILFALK FOR OCTOBER 28, 9 A.M. UNDER

CEREMONIES.

01:26:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MOTION AND SECOND BY MR. CHAIRMAN.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION PASSES.

01:26:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
LAST, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW COACH

ADRIAN JOHNSON TAMPA BAY TECH, BASKETBALL LONG, LONG

TIME.

HE IS ALSO RETIRING.

PRESENTATION TO HIM OCTOBER 29, AT HIS RETIREMENT EVENT.

01:27:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MOVED BY MR. CHAIRMAN.

SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

MOTION CARRIED.

01:27:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

MR. MIRANDA.

MR. MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

WE'RE ADJOURNED.

[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]




THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.



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