TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MARCH 10, 2022
5:01 PM.
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17:03:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE EVENING SESSION WILL COME TO
17:03:16 ORDER FOR MARCH 10, 2022.
17:03:18 5:01.
17:03:20 ROLL CALL.
17:03:21 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
17:03:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
17:03:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GLAD TO BE HERE.
17:03:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
17:03:30 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
17:03:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
17:03:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
17:03:39 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A QUORUM.
17:03:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA IS VIRTUAL.
17:03:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I BEGIN WITH MY
17:03:45 COMMENTS FOR THIS EVENING.
17:03:49 GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS, MEMBERS OF PUBLIC,
17:03:52 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
17:03:55 TONIGHT'S QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
17:03:58 AS YOU HEARD IS CONDUCTED WITH A LIVE IN-PERSON QUORUM
17:04:02 PRESENT IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS PRESENT.
17:04:06 HOWEVER, IN LIGHT OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND GUIDANCE IN
17:04:08 EFFECT, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE THE ABILITY TO
17:04:15 PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY THROUGH VIDEO TELECONFERENCING AS
17:04:17 COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY.
17:04:22 THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA WITH VIEW ON SPECTRUM, 640.
17:04:25 CHANNEL 15 WITH THE FRONTIER AND ON THE INTERNET AT
17:04:29 TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
17:04:34 NOW THERE HAVE BEEN WAYS THROUGH PEOPLE -- WAYS FOR
17:04:36 PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN TONIGHT'S HEARING AND THOSE
17:04:39 HAVE BEEN SET FORTH IN THE NOTICE OF THE HEARING AND ON
17:04:40 THE AGENDA.
17:04:44 AND IT ALSO PARTICULARLY ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE
17:04:49 AT TAMPA.GOV/QUASI.
17:04:57 OR ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEB PAGE TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.
17:05:00 PREREGISTRATION WAS REQUIRED AND, AGAIN, THOSE
17:05:03 INSTRUCTIONS ARE ON THE CITY'S WEB PAGE.
17:05:07 IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE VIA CMT, YOU MUST HAVE ACCESS
17:05:10 TO A DEVICE SUCH AS A TABLET OR COMPUTER EQUIPPED WITH
17:05:13 A CAMERA AND MICROPHONE THAT WILL ENABLE TO YOU BE
17:05:17 SCENE BY VIDEO AND HEARD ON AUDIO BY THE CITY COUNCIL
17:05:19 AND ALL OTHER PARTICIPANTS.
17:05:23 FOR THESE SPECIFIC TWO-WAY VIRTUAL MEETING FORMAT.
17:05:27 CELL PHONES AND SMARTPHONES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE AS THEY
17:05:30 WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO SHARE YOUR CAMERA WHEN CONNECTED.
17:05:35 ALSO, COUNCIL, THERE HAVE BEEN WAYS TO COMMUNICATE VIA
17:05:47 E-MAIL OR VIA WEB PAGE AND THOSE INSTRUCTIONS ARE ON
17:05:47 THE WEB SITE.
17:05:51 THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO CMT AND WHICH TO APPEAR
17:05:54 IN PERSON ON OLD CITY HALL, WE HAVE FACILITIES ON
17:06:04 SECOND FLOOR 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND THIS, AGAIN, IS
17:06:05 ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
17:06:08 COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED BY E-MAIL, AND WE ASK THAT
17:06:14 THEY BE RECEIVED 4 HOURS IN ADVANCE TO BE UPLOADED AND
17:06:14 AVAILABLE.
17:06:17 AND ALL THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE LOCATED IN THE NOTICE AND
17:06:20 I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL -- ONE LAST THING TO SAY.
17:06:22 THE MEETING PLATFORM, IF YOU ARE A VIRTUAL PARTICIPANT
17:06:24 HAS A CHAT BOX.
17:06:27 PLEASE DO NOT USE THE CHAT BOX FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN
17:06:28 TECHNICAL ISSUES.
17:06:32 DO NOT USE THEM TO COMMUNICATE AND DO NOT USE THEM TO
17:06:34 COMMUNICATE WITH CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ANY OF
17:06:35 HEARINGS.
17:06:46 A REMINDER TO CITY COUNCIL THAT IF YOU RECEIVE ANY TEXT
17:06:50 AND RELATED TO TONIGHT'S HEARING WE STOP THE HEARING
17:06:52 AND YOU DISCLOSE THEM.
17:07:00 DISCLOSE ANY EX-EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION FOR FLORIDA LAW.
17:07:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO ADOPT.
17:07:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE.
17:07:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND.
17:07:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
17:07:07 OPPOSED.
17:07:09 MOTION GRANTED.
17:07:12 MR. SHELBY, BEFORE WE START WITH OUR MAIN AGENDA, THE
17:07:16 ADMINISTRATION HAS ASKED FOR A WALK-ON ITEM.
17:07:19 ENTERTAIN A WALK-ON ITEM FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
17:07:20 ADMINISTRATOR.
17:07:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
17:07:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
17:07:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
17:07:25 ANY OPPOSED.
17:07:26 MOTION GRANTED.
17:07:31 MISS TRAVIS, THE FLOOR FOR WALK-ON ITEM.
17:07:35 MADAM CLERK, DO YOU HAVE THE WALK-ON ITEM.
17:07:37 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
17:07:40 NICOLE TRAVIS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL.
17:07:42 WE APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING US TO COME BEFORE YOU THIS
17:07:47 EVENING TO REQUEST A $4 MILLION ALLOCATION.
17:07:51 COUNCIL. AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND THE WORKSHOP,
17:07:55 WE HEARD ABOUT.
17:07:58 WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT RENT STABILIZATION AND OUR
17:08:00 CITIZENS WANTING A MEETING HELD NOW.
17:08:06 COUNCIL, I THOUGHT YOU WERE VERY DIRECT IN WANTING TO
17:08:08 DO SOMETHING TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS IN THIS MOMENT, EVEN
17:08:11 UNDERSTANDING THAT POLICIES AND LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS
17:08:14 WERE TO COME IN THE FUTURE BUT YOU WANTED SOMETHING
17:08:14 NOW.
17:08:17 WITH THAT WE HAD A $1 MILLION ALLOCATION FOR RENTAL
17:08:21 ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO BE ADMINISTERED AND THAT WAS
17:08:23 COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
17:08:26 WITH THAT MONEY COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND, IT ALLOWS
17:08:31 FOR 80% -- UP TO 140% AREA MEDIAN INCOME QUALIFIED
17:08:35 INDIVIDUALS TO RECEIVE RENTAL ASSISTANCE OR THEIR
17:08:42 DEPOSIT -- SECURITY DEPOSIT FOR RENT SINCE WE LAUNCHED
17:08:47 THAT PROGRAM ON MARCH 1, AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE OVER
17:08:48 THE LAST SEVEN DAYS.
17:08:50 TWO EVENINGS AGO, I GOT A CALL FROM OUR HOUSING MANAGER
17:08:53 THAT SAID WE HAVE OVER 300 APPLICATIONS.
17:08:57 KNOWING THAT THE MILLION DOLLARS WOULD BE EXPENDED AS
17:09:03 SOON AS WE STARTED PROCESS THOSE APPLICATIONS.
17:09:05 THAT EVENING THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND CHIEF FINANCIAL
17:09:08 OFFICERS SAT IN THE ROOM FOR HOURS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
17:09:11 HOW TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS AND WE HEARD FROM COUNCIL
17:09:13 AND RESIDENTS LOUD AND CLEAR THEY NEEDED ASSISTANCE
17:09:14 RIGHT NOW.
17:09:18 WITH THAT, WE HAVE REPRIORITIZED SOME PROJECT FUNDING
17:09:22 TO HAVE A $4 MILLION ALLOCATION FOR YOU TO CONTINUE TO
17:09:29 EXTEND THIS PROGRAM.
17:09:33 SINCE WE LAUNCHED THE PROGRAM ON THE FIRST AND HAD A
17:09:39 STRONG MEDIA PRESENCE, AT OF 9:00 THIS MORNING, OVER
17:09:41 900 APPLICATIONS.
17:09:43 WE HAVE A TEAM OF FOUR STAFF MEMBERS PROCESSING THE
17:09:46 APPLICATIONS AND DOING WHAT THEY CAN TO MOVE THEM AS
17:09:47 FAST AS POSSIBLE.
17:09:50 APPLICATIONS ARE -- ONCE YOU GO INTO THE PORTAL AND
17:09:52 SUBMIT YOUR NAME AND CONTACT INFORMATION, THERE IS
17:09:55 INFORMATION REQUIRED BY THE TENANT AND THE LANDLORD.
17:09:57 SO THE APPLICATION ISN'T NECESSARILY COMPLETE AS SOON
17:10:00 AS THEY FILL OUT THE INFORMATION.
17:10:02 SOMETIMES A GIVE AND TAKE AND WE HAVE BEEN PROCESSING
17:10:05 THOSE APPLICATIONS FAIRLY QUICKLY.
17:10:08 WITHIN SEVEN TO TEN DAYS THE LANDLORDS CAN HAVE A
17:10:08 CHECK.
17:10:13 THAT COMMITMENT IS A 12-MONTH COMMITMENT TO PAY THAT
17:10:13 GAP.
17:10:16 THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF THE BASE RENT, WHATEVER THE RENT
17:10:18 IS AND WHAT IT IS INCREASING TO.
17:10:21 THIS FUNDING IS ALLOW TO PAY FOR THAT DIFFERENCE IN
17:10:24 BETWEEN FOR THE 12-MONTH COMMITMENT.
17:10:36 I AM GRATEFULLY HAPPY TO REALLOCATE THAT MONEY TO HELP
17:10:41 OUR RESIDENTS THE NEED OUTWEIGHS OUR FINANCIAL
17:10:43 RESPONSIBILITIES AT THIS TIME.
17:10:45 WITH THE $4 MILLION, WE CONTINUE TO PROCESS THE
17:10:50 APPLICATION AND ASK FOR YOUR FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION.
17:10:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:10:57 >>BILL CARLSON: I AM VERY GLAD YOU ARE HERE AND I
17:11:00 APPRECIATE THE COLLEGIALITY SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN HERE
17:11:01 AND ESPECIALLY IN WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
17:11:04 AS I STARTED TO TELL YOU ON WAY IN, I AM VERY
17:11:08 FRUSTRATED BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE MEDIA COVERAGE OF
17:11:11 THIS, CITY COUNCIL HAS DONE NOTHING TO ADDRESS THESE
17:11:12 ISSUES.
17:11:15 SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, YOU TALK ABOUT COLLABORATION AND
17:11:17 EITHER -- THE WAY IT GOES THROUGH THE COMMUNICATION
17:11:20 DEPARTMENT OR THE WAY IT COMES OUT IS THAT IT IS THE
17:11:23 MAYOR'S IDEA, THE MAYOR'S T-3 PROGRAM.
17:11:26 THE CITY COUNCIL WAS NOT WILL BE A RATING.
17:11:27 HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
17:11:30 AND DIDN'T LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC.
17:11:32 I THINK WE WERE TRYING COLLABORATE FOR THREE YEARS AND
17:11:35 COLLABORATED AND SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED AND THE
17:11:39 COMMUNITY FEELS THE ADMINISTRATION IS BEING DIVISIVE
17:11:41 TOWARD CITY COUNCIL AND ATTACKING CITY COUNCIL AND THEY
17:11:43 WANT THE DEVISIVENESS TO END.
17:11:48 I AM JUST PLEADING WITH YOU TO PLEASE -- IF A PRESS
17:11:52 RELEASE GOES OUT AND PRESS CONFERENCE AND CITY COUNCIL
17:11:54 IS NOT MENTION AND CITY COUNCIL DIDN'T DO ANYTHING,
17:11:56 THEN IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT COME IN HERE
17:12:00 TALK TO US INDIRECTLY TALKING TO ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T
17:12:01 GET HEARD.
17:12:03 AND YOU TALKED ABOUT IT VERY ELOQUENTLY, BUT I DON'T
17:12:05 THINK IT IS THAT HARD FOR SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNICATION
17:12:08 DEPARTMENT TO TALK ABOUT THAT TO THE PUBLIC AND THANK
17:12:11 CITY COUNCIL THE WAY YOU JUST DID SAYING THANK YOU FOR
17:12:12 HOLDING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
17:12:15 THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC.
17:12:17 THE EXPERIENCE OF THE PUBLIC, THEY COME UP WITH AN
17:12:18 IDEA.
17:12:20 WE ASK FOR THE IDEA AND IT GETS CLOGGED UP IN THE LEGAL
17:12:23 DEPARTMENT AND ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT FOR THREE TO
17:12:24 SIX MONTHS.
17:12:28 I TRIED TO GET A WORLD WAR II MONUMENT TO HONOR WORLD
17:12:32 WAR II VETERANS AND THREE MONTHS LATER HEARD AN ANSWER,
17:12:34 WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
17:12:37 PERCEPTION TO THE PUBLIC THAT EVERYTHING THAT CITY
17:12:40 COUNCIL OR CITY COUNCIL THINKS IS A PRIORITY WHICH IS
17:12:42 COMING FROM THE PUBLIC -- NOT OUR IDEAS.
17:12:46 I DIDN'T COME UP WITH THE IDEA OF THE STATUE, THAT ALL
17:12:48 OF THAT GETS BOGGED DOWN AND THE ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T
17:12:50 CARE AND THE PUBLIC THINKS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS
17:12:54 NOT WORKING ON IT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DISCREDIT CITY
17:12:56 COUNCIL OR NOT ALLOW CITY COUNCIL TO GET CREDIT FOR
17:12:57 ANYTHING.
17:12:59 NOT ABOUT CREDIT BUT LISTENING FOR WHAT THE PUBLIC
17:13:03 WANTS AND RESPONDING TO THE WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS AND
17:13:04 VERY FRUSTRATING.
17:13:07 THIS COMMUNITY -- AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY HAD EIGHT
17:13:09 YEARS OF RACIST POLICIES AND OPPRESSION FROM THE
17:13:13 BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION AND THEY WERE HOPING TO HAVE
17:13:16 PEACE AND CALM AND RESPECT FROM US.
17:13:19 AND IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEIR VOICES ARE NOT BEING HEARD,
17:13:21 THEN WE ARE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE WERE.
17:13:24 WE NEED TO -- IT WILL TAKE DECADES TO RECOVER FROM THE
17:13:26 OPPRESSION OF THOSE EIGHT YEARS.
17:13:31 BUT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND ANNOUNCE THINGS THAT WE
17:13:33 HAVE DONE TOGETHER SO THAT THE PUBLIC SEES THAT WE ARE
17:13:35 TRYING TO DO THINGS TOGETHER.
17:13:37 I WOULD PLEAD WITH YOU AND THE ADMINISTRATION AND
17:13:40 EVERYBODY LISTENING, CAN WE PLEASE WORK TOGETHER ON
17:13:41 THESE THINGS?
17:13:44 WHY DOES EVERYTHING SAY T-3 AND NOT ANYTHING ABOUT CITY
17:13:44 COUNCIL.
17:13:45 THANK YOU.
17:13:47 I KNOW YOU ARE TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND I SO
17:13:50 APPRECIATE YOU AND I KNOW THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS TRYING
17:13:53 TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, BUT WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER,
17:13:54 PLEASE.
17:13:57 THE CITIZENS WANT US TO COLLABORATE.
17:13:58 >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
17:14:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONE SECOND, MR. VIERA.
17:14:05 MR. DINGFELDER AND, AGAIN, TO MR. VIERA.
17:14:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD EVENING.
17:14:13 MISS TRAVIS, AND I WANT TO -- I ALSO WANT TO SAY HOW
17:14:15 GLAD WE ARE THAT YOU ARE HERE.
17:14:19 WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS BACKGROUND, ESPECIALLY THROUGH IN
17:14:22 POLK COUNTY WORKING ON THESE KIND OF ISSUES AND
17:14:28 AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUES AND CRA ISSUES AS WELL.
17:14:31 SO YOU ARE THE PERFECT PERSON FOR THIS JOB.
17:14:33 AND WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE HERE.
17:14:35 IN REGARD TO TONIGHT, THE ONE THING THINK THAT WANT TO
17:14:39 EMPHASIZE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT IS WATCHING, ESPECIALLY
17:14:42 TO THE PRESS THAT IS WATCHING, IS YOU AND I DISCUSS
17:14:44 THIS EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON.
17:14:48 IS BY MY CALCULATION, IT'S -- IT'S FANTASTIC THAT WE
17:14:54 STARTED WITH A MILLION DOLLARS AND FOUND $$4 MILLION IN
17:14:56 THE BUDGET TO HELP PEOPLE WITH THESE ISSUES BECAUSE
17:15:00 OTHERWISE MANY OF THEM WOULD BE HOMELESS OR HAVING TO
17:15:03 MOVE OUT OF THE COUNTY WHO KNOWS WHAT OR DOUBLE UP AND
17:15:08 TRIPLE UP WITH FAMILIES, YOU KNOW, OVERBURDENED AND
17:15:11 CHILDREN SLEEPING ON FLOORS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
17:15:14 WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN IN OUR POWER TO AVOID
17:15:15 THAT.
17:15:17 THAT IS THE GOOD NEWS.
17:15:19 $4 MILLION TO $5 MILLION IS FANTASTIC.
17:15:22 THE BAD NEWS IS, WHEN RERAN THE NUMBERS AND I ASKED YOU
17:15:25 WHAT THE COMMITMENT WAS AND YOU SAID APPROXIMATELY THE
17:15:28 AVERAGE COMMITMENT WOULD BE ABOUT $6500 PER FAMILY FOR
17:15:34 ONE YEAR, WHICH, AGAIN, IS FANTASTIC WE CAN HELP THOSE
17:15:37 FAMILIES AND YOU MULTIPLY IT OUT AND CHARLIE IS OUR
17:15:41 CHIEF MATHEMATICIAN, COMES OUT TO 750 FAMILIES FOR THE
17:15:42 YEAR.
17:15:45 CITY OF TAMPA MADE UP OF 400,000 PEOPLE.
17:15:49 I ESTIMATE PROBABLY 150,000 HOUSEHOLDS.
17:15:54 AND IT IS MIND-BOGGLING TO HEAR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
17:15:59 WHO JUMPED ON THE COMPUTER RIGHT AWAY AT THE VERY FIRST
17:16:02 OPPORTUNITY AND HAVEN'T STOPPED SINCE.
17:16:06 SO THIS COMMUNITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME SERIOUS
17:16:10 SOUL SEARCHING OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO AND REALLY DIG
17:16:15 DEEP TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO RESOLVE THIS.
17:16:18 WE ARE RESOLVING THIS WITH A BAND-AID ON THE SHORT
17:16:21 TERM, BUT WE HAVE -- WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
17:16:23 RESOLVE THIS LONG TERM.
17:16:29 AND, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU AND I KNOW CHIEF BENNETT
17:16:32 WAS DEEPLY INVOLVED.
17:16:38 DENNIS ROGERO AND THE MAYOR HERSELF PROBABLY GAVE THEIR
17:16:39 BLESSINGS.
17:16:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:16:45 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU. MR. CHAIR.
17:16:47 LET ME KNOW IF I GO IN AND OUT.
17:16:51 I APPRECIATE IT 110%, MISS TRAVIS, ALL THE WORK YOU PUT
17:16:52 IN.
17:16:54 WE SPOKE OF THIS ISSUE LAST NIGHT AND LIKE ALL
17:16:56 COUNCILMEMBERS, WE ARE HAPPY TO SEE IT.
17:16:59 WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS IN OUR CITY, STATE AND
17:17:01 COUNTRY.
17:17:04 BUT IF MUCH OF THE UNITED STATES IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A
17:17:10 CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS, IT
17:17:16 SEEMS WE NEED TAMPA BAY AREA TO WEATHER THAT STORM.
17:17:18 WE ARE FEELING IT 110%.
17:17:22 FEELING IT FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS AND PEOPLE STRUGGLING
17:17:24 TO GET INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS.
17:17:27 WHEN LOOK AT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE I LIKE TO
17:17:30 GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE.
17:17:34 IN CITY COUNCIL, FROM DAY ONE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS
17:17:36 TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
17:17:39 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, CHAIRMAN GUDES.
17:17:41 I REMEMBER WHEN WE STARTED -- HAD THE APPOINTMENT FOR
17:17:44 THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE AND I SUGGESTED
17:17:47 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER BECAUSE OF HIS WORK ON THAT
17:17:47 ISSUE.
17:17:50 I SALUTE EVERYBODY'S WORK ON THAT ISSUE.
17:17:56 WHEN I LOOK AT THIS CRISIS, YOU KNOW, IT IS TIME FOR
17:17:58 ROBUST INVESTMENT.
17:18:01 YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AFFECTING EVERYDAY WORKING
17:18:04 FAMILIES, AND TO ME, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS
17:18:08 SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE CRISIS OF THE GREAT RECESSION AND
17:18:09 THE GREAT DEPRESSION.
17:18:13 AND REALLY REQUIRES ROBUST GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT TO
17:18:15 HELP PEOPLE WHO LACK THE MEANS TO HELP THEMSELVES.
17:18:18 SO THIS IS A REAL STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
17:18:20 WE ARE AT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
17:18:24 AND YOU KNOW, OUR BUDGET IS NOT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
17:18:26 OUR BUDGET IS NOT FLORIDA.
17:18:28 OUR BUDGET IS NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
17:18:32 BUT WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN WITH OUR BUDGET TO
17:18:34 HELP THESE EVERYDAY WORKING FAMILIES.
17:18:36 IT IS A CRISIS.
17:18:39 MISS TRAVIS, I WANTED TO SALUTE YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
17:18:42 I HEARD FROM THE GRAPEVINE YOU WERE UP VERY LATE AT
17:18:44 NIGHT WORKING ON THIS PROPOSAL.
17:18:47 YOU KNOW, JUST TALKING TO YOU YESTERDAY, I COULD TELL
17:18:51 THE PASSION IN YOUR VOICE, THE SINCERITY IN YOUR VOICE,
17:18:54 AND THE REAL SENSE OF URGENCY IN YOUR VOICE TO GET HELP
17:18:56 TO THESE FAMILIES RIGHT NOW.
17:18:58 TO ME I THINK THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT.
17:19:04 I SALUTE EVERYBODY ON THEIR WORK, BUT I ESPECIALLY WANT
17:19:07 TO THANK YOU, MISS TRAVIS, MY HAT IS OFF TO YOU.
17:19:09 THANK YOU.
17:19:11 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
17:19:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS TRAVIS, SAID FROM DAY ONE A
17:19:17 CRISIS AND $1 MILLION WOULDN'T DO IT.
17:19:19 BUT GENTLEMEN, LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
17:19:22 YESTERDAY MORNING I WENT TO THE PRESS CONFERENCE AND
17:19:26 THE ADMINISTRATION DID ASK FOR ME AND MR. DINGFELDER TO
17:19:26 GO.
17:19:28 MR. DINGFELDER COULDN'T GO AND I WENT TO THE PRESS
17:19:29 CONFERENCE.
17:19:32 MISS TRAVIS, TWO MINUTES BEFORE THE PRESS CONFERENCE
17:19:35 SAID, HEY, WE FOUND A WAY TO MAKE SOME MORE MONEY AND
17:19:39 THE MAYOR MADE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT AND I WAS THROWN BACK
17:19:42 BECAUSE I DIDN'T THOUGH THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
17:19:44 WHEN IT WAS TOLD TO ME AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, I
17:19:46 EMBRACED THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT WE MUST DO.
17:19:50 SECONDLY, I TOLD MISS TRAVIS, I COULD NOT BRING THIS
17:19:54 ITEM AT A WALK-ON UNTIL HER STAFF CONTACTED
17:19:57 COUNCILMEMBERS SO THEY CAN KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
17:20:00 I AM ALWAYS GOING TO DO THAT WITH THIS COUNCIL.
17:20:02 I AM NEVER GOING TO BLINDSIDE EVERYBODY.
17:20:04 AND HIDE BEHIND A DOOR.
17:20:09 I WOULD NOT BRING IT AS A WALK-ON UNTIL COUNCILMEMBERS
17:20:10 HAD CONTACTED.
17:20:14 THEY ASSURED ME THAT EVERYBODY -- EXCEPT FOR MR.
17:20:16 CARLSON WHO WAS NOT HERE THIS MORNING.
17:20:18 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE SPOKE BEFORE THE MEETING.
17:20:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO SAY THAT, MISS TRAVIS HAS
17:20:24 BEEN LISTENING.
17:20:27 AGAIN, SHE HAS EXPERTISE IN HOUSING.
17:20:31 IT BRINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENCE -- A BETTER WRENCH TO THE
17:20:32 GAME.
17:20:34 BUT I WANT TO SAY THIS.
17:20:37 I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUR
17:20:42 COMMUNITIES WITH YOUR REQUEST TONIGHT BUT I WANT TO BE
17:20:45 CLEAR, MISS TRAVIS, AND TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
17:20:47 WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY CRISIS.
17:20:52 I FILLED MY GAS TANK TWICE ALREADY THIS WEEK, MR.
17:20:52 MIRANDA.
17:20:53 I HAVE A V8.
17:20:55 TAKES A LOT OF GAS.
17:20:56 YOU UNDERSTAND?
17:20:59 GAS OVER $5 A GALLON.
17:21:07 YOU CAN IMAGINE A HOUSE HOLD WITH GAS, FOOD, RENT.
17:21:10 AND THAT'S WHY I SAY WITH THAT HOUSING STUDY, YOU HAVE
17:21:13 TO INCLUDE RENT STABILIZATION STUDY.
17:21:14 AND IT CAN'T BE WAY, WAY OUT.
17:21:16 WE GOT TO START MOVING ON THIS.
17:21:19 I KNOW YOU HAVE LIMITED STAFF.
17:21:24 AND TALKING ABOUT PROCESSING 900 POSSIBLE -- 760 OUT OF
17:21:25 THAT FOR FOUR PEOPLE?
17:21:28 THAT IS A LOT OF PROCESSING.
17:21:31 BUT WITH LIMITED PEOPLE, I KNOW HOUSING DOES NOT HAVE.
17:21:34 SO NOW WE MOVE THE STEPS BACK SOME MORE BECAUSE WE ARE
17:21:36 TRYING TO GET SOMETHING ELSE MOVING AND PUT OTHER STUFF
17:21:38 ON THE BACK BURNER.
17:21:40 AND THAT IS UNFORTUNATE, BECAUSE WE ARE STILL HOLDING
17:21:43 OUR RESIDENTS BACK FROM THESE PROGRAMS.
17:21:46 SO I KNOW WITH YOU BEING HERE YOU KNOW THE NEED OF
17:21:48 GETTING MORE PEOPLE AND STAFF.
17:21:49 WE GOT TO HAVE THAT DONE.
17:21:53 AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT -- THERE WILL COME A TIME
17:21:56 WHEN THIS COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO ANTE UP AND WE
17:21:58 ARE GOING TO SAY -- AND LET IT BE KNOWN THAT WE HAVE AN
17:21:59 EMERGENCY CRISIS.
17:22:03 SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL GET READY BECAUSE GOING TO COME A
17:22:05 TIME THIS COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THE GUTS TO
17:22:08 SAY WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY CRISIS AND RUN AND FIGURE OUT
17:22:12 WHAT THAT IS SO WE CAN DO SOMETHING FOR THE CITIZENS.
17:22:13 IT'S COMING.
17:22:15 YOU GOT A WAR GOING ON.
17:22:16 THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
17:22:19 MR. MIRANDA JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT.
17:22:21 THE WHEAT FIELDS -- I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
17:22:22 THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND WE GOT TO MOVE.
17:22:27 I AM JUST SAYING THAT IS GOING TO BE COMING, BUT ANY
17:22:30 OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISS TRAVIS BEFORE I ASK FOR THE
17:22:30 VOTE.
17:22:32 MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:22:33 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE MORE THING FROM COMMUNICATION
17:22:35 POINT OF VIEW.
17:22:37 TODAY WHEN THIS WAS ANNOUNCED, A POSITIVE ANNOUNCEMENT
17:22:39 FOR MOST PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
17:22:42 SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY DON'T LIKE IT, BUT A LOT
17:22:46 OF PEOPLE DO HIKE IT AND 900 OR SO FAMILIES THAT WILL
17:22:48 BENEFIT FROM IT.
17:22:50 WITHIN TWO OR THREE DAYS AGAIN, WE WILL RUN OUT OF
17:22:51 MONEY AGAIN.
17:22:54 THE ANNOUNCEMENT AND PUBLICITY ASK WHOEVER IS DOING IT
17:22:57 TO PLEASE SET EXPECTATIONS.
17:22:59 BECAUSE UNLESS YOU KNOW OF A SECRET POT OF MONEY AFTER
17:23:02 THIS, THIS MAY BE THE END OF IT.
17:23:05 AND WE HAVE TO -- IF THERE ARE ANOTHER 5,000 PEOPLE
17:23:08 BEHIND THE 900, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE
17:23:10 DISAPPOINTED PEOPLE THAN HAPPY PEOPLE.
17:23:13 SO WE HAVE GOT TO SOMEHOW EXPLAIN MORE HOW WE ARE GOING
17:23:15 TO RUN OUT OF MONEY THAN WHATEVER MONEY WE HAVE.
17:23:20 BECAUSE SOUNDS LIKE THE WORD GOT OUT PRETTY FAST.
17:23:22 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, SIR.
17:23:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA AND THEN PROCEDURALLY
17:23:26 SOMETHING I NEED TO DO.
17:23:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING.
17:23:30 I ENJOYED THE CONVERSATION WE HAD.
17:23:32 STATED EARLIER IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
17:23:33 FACTUALLY IS THIS.
17:23:35 THIS CITY CANNOT BE IN DEFICIT.
17:23:37 WE HAVE TO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET.
17:23:38 WE ARE NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
17:23:42 WE KEEP WRITING CHECKS AND KEEP GETTING IN DEBT.
17:23:45 THIS WE CANNOT DO, AS YOU WELL KNOW.
17:23:48 SO THERE ARE LIMITATIONS TO WHAT WE CAN DO.
17:23:52 AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE OTHER NEEDS THAT ARE ROADS
17:23:55 AND WATER AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT EVERY CITY
17:23:56 HAS.
17:24:01 SO IT'S GOT TO BE EXPLAINED THAT WE CAN'T HANDLE 50,000
17:24:16 PEOPLE WHEN I SEE NEEDS AND NECESSITY IF YOU ARE
17:24:20 CHECKING ONE RENT SHEET AGAINST ANOTHER SHEET.
17:24:25 AND YOU DON'T KNOW THE BACKGROUND AND GIVE OUT CHECKS,
17:24:28 WE AREN'T USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
17:24:31 AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, WE NEED TO VERIFY THAT THE NEED IS
17:24:31 A NECESSITY.
17:24:34 I KNOW THERE IS A NECESSITY THERE, BUT I NEED TO MAKE
17:24:37 SURE THAT THE CHECKS GO TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT THE
17:24:37 MOST.
17:24:41 THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A
17:24:44 MANNERISM WHERE IT CAN BE TRACED BACK IN THE AUDIT AND
17:24:46 SAY THEY DID IT RIGHT.
17:24:47 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ABSOLUTELY.
17:24:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE YOUR MOVE.
17:24:51 I APPRECIATE YOUR APPEARANCE.
17:24:56 I APPRECIATE THE CANDOR.
17:24:58 I NEVER GOT ELECTED TO BE POPULAR.
17:25:01 I DON'T CARE IF THE DAMN MAYOR GETS EVERYTHING SHE
17:25:02 WANTS OR MENTIONED.
17:25:04 I NEVER WANTED TO BE POPULAR.
17:25:06 I JUST WANT TO BE RIGHT.
17:25:06 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:25:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS TRAVIS.
17:25:12 ONE THING WHEN WE TALK.
17:25:15 WHEN WE TALK OF GIVING OUT THIS MONEY, LET'S BE CLEAR.
17:25:19 NOT GIVING THE WHOLE RENT, BUT JUST A PORTION.
17:25:20 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.
17:25:21 GAP.
17:25:23 IF THEY ARE EXPERIENCING -- THEY HAVE TO BE
17:25:26 EXPERIENCING A RENT INCREASE AND WHATEVER THEIR RENT
17:25:28 CURRENTLY IS AND WHAT IT IS GOING TO.
17:25:31 THAT FUNDING IS TO FILL THAT GAP IN BETWEEN.
17:25:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MAY CONTINUE.
17:25:35 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: COUNCILMEMBERS, I REALLY WANT TO
17:25:39 THANK YOU THIS EVENING AGAIN FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
17:25:42 I HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE LESS THAN 60 DAYS AND HAVE THE
17:25:46 HELM LESS THAN 30, AND I HAVE SEEN NOTHING BUT
17:25:48 COLLABORATION AND REALLY IN OUR INTERNAL MEETINGS
17:25:50 HEARING WHAT COUNCIL IS SAYING AND TRYING TO BE
17:25:51 RESPONSIVE.
17:25:55 YOU HAVE MY UPMOST COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE THAT
17:25:58 COLLABORATION WITH YOU AND TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON -- ON
17:26:02 THE PROGRAMS ON YOUR REQUEST.
17:26:04 WE HAVE -- TO YOUR POINT OF THE SHORTAGE WITH THE
17:26:05 PLANNING STAFF.
17:26:07 WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE PROCESSING THE
17:26:10 APPLICATIONS, BUT THE PLANNING TEAM, WHICH IS ANOTHER
17:26:14 DEPARTMENT, HAS ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON OUR -- ON
17:26:18 OUR RFP PUTTING TOGETHER WHAT WE NEED FOR RFP FOR
17:26:20 HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
17:26:23 WE UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS.
17:26:26 WE ARE MOVING THAT TO NUMBER ONE.
17:26:28 AND WE ARE WORKING ON THAT NOW.
17:26:30 AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOUR POINT OF SETTING
17:26:32 EXPECTATIONS.
17:26:34 ON OUR WEB SITE WE HAD TO PAUSE APPLICATIONS AND PUT A
17:26:38 NOTE ON THE WEB SITE TO SAY WE HAD TO PAUSE
17:26:41 APPLICATIONS AT THIS TIME, BUT PLEASE FILL OUT THIS
17:26:45 FORM WITH YOUR INFORMATION SO THAT THERE IS MORE
17:26:47 FUNDING, WE CAN CONTACT THESE PEOPLE.
17:26:51 WE ALSO ASKED THEM THEIR HOUSEHOLD INCOME SO IF THEY
17:26:53 PERHAPS MAY QUALIFY FOR OTHER FUNDING.
17:26:58 FEDERAL FUNDING, WE WILL PULL THE INFORMATION FROM THAT
17:27:00 LIST AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO HELP THEM.
17:27:02 WE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE CONTACT US SAYING THEY ARE
17:27:05 NOT SURE IF THEY ARE ELIGIBLE AND THEY DON'T REALIZE
17:27:06 THAT THEY ARE.
17:27:09 THE FUNDS YOU HAVE COMMITTED TO THIS PROGRAM FOR THAT
17:27:15 80 TO 140% ARE HELPING PEOPLE ARE REPORTERS, THAT ARE
17:27:17 NURSES, THAT ARE FIRE FIGHTERS, THAT NEED ASSISTANCE AS
17:27:18 WELL.
17:27:22 SO I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INDULGENCE THIS
17:27:25 EVENING AND FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
17:27:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I GO TO PUBLIC
17:27:27 COMMENT.
17:27:31 MR. SHELBY SAYS WE NEED PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
17:27:35 ANYONE ON SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, WALK-ON
17:27:36 ITEM FOR $4 MILLION.
17:27:38 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, LAND DEVELOPMENT
17:27:39 COORDINATION.
17:27:41 NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
17:27:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
17:27:45 ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK, MADAM CLERK?
17:27:49 >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK.
17:27:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER.
17:27:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HONOR TO MOVE THIS WALK-ON ITEM.
17:27:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
17:28:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER MADE THE MOTION AND
17:28:01 MIRANDA SECONDED.
17:28:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
17:28:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
17:28:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
17:28:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
17:28:06 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
17:28:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
17:28:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
17:28:11 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
17:28:15 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:28:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: $4 MILLION.
17:28:21 ALL RIGHT, MR. SHELBY, LET'S GO TO MISS BARNES.
17:28:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A LOT OF HOUSEKEEPING TONIGHT, MR.
17:28:27 CHAIRMAN.
17:28:29 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
17:28:31 ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
17:28:36 AS MR. SHELBY ANNOUNCED, SOME ITEMS TO CLEAN UP FOR YOU
17:28:37 TONIGHT.
17:28:41 THE FIRST ONE ITEM NUMBER 1, FILE NO. REZ-21-46.
17:28:45 THE APPLICANT IS ASKING A CONTINUANCE TO THE APRIL 14,
17:28:47 2022 PUBLIC HEARING.
17:28:50 I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE TO SPEAK ON THIS
17:28:50 REQUEST.
17:28:55 COUNCIL WILL ALSO NEED TO WAIVE THE REQUIRED 180 DAYS
17:29:01 SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-148.
17:29:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN WE TAKE THAT UP INDIVIDUALLY,
17:29:03 PLEASE.
17:29:06 I SEE MR. MECHANIK.
17:29:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MR. MECHANIK.
17:29:12 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL.
17:29:14 MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK.
17:29:20 AND I'M HERE TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER
17:29:29 1, AND THAT IS SO WE CAN ADDRESS SEVERAL STAFF
17:29:30 COMMENTS.
17:29:33 I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
17:29:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE SECOND CONTINUANCE ON THIS ITEM?
17:29:40 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, SIR.
17:29:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY ARE ALLOWED TWO.
17:29:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, AGAIN, IF ANYONE WHO IS
17:29:50 HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM AND THEY WANT TO SPEAK TO THE
17:29:53 CONTINUANCE, I ASK THAT THE COUNCIL HEAR FROM THOSE
17:29:57 PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SPEAK, NOT ON THE MERITS BUT JUST ON
17:29:59 THE CONTINUANCE.
17:30:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK
17:30:05 ON THIS ITEM, ONLY TO THE CONTINUANCE.
17:30:06 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT
17:30:07 COORDINATION.
17:30:09 NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
17:30:10 THANK YOU.
17:30:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS
17:30:13 ITEM?
17:30:16 >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
17:30:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
17:30:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CONTINUE TO WHEN?
17:30:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CONTINUE -- DATE AND TIME.
17:30:26 MOTION TO CONTINUE -- WHAT IS THAT AGAIN?
17:30:30 >>CLERK: APRIL 14, 2022 AT 5:01 P.M.
17:30:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 180 DAYS, DOES THIS INCLUDE -- MR.
17:30:37 MECHANIK, YOUR REQUEST TO WAIVE THE 180 DAYS.
17:30:40 >>DAVID MECHANIK: WE WAIVE THE 180 DAYS.
17:30:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT PART OF THE MOTION TOO.
17:30:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER HAS MOVED IT.
17:30:48 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
17:30:49 ALL IN FAVOR.
17:30:50 OPPOSED.
17:30:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, NO
17:30:56 OTHER NOTICE TO MARK THE DATE -- WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN,
17:31:00 APRIL 14 OF THIS YEAR, 2022 AT 5:01 P.M.
17:31:03 THANK YOU.
17:31:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MR. MECHANIK, THANK YOU,
17:31:05 SIR.
17:31:08 MISS BARNES, ANY MORE HOUSEKEEPING?
17:31:12 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: YES, ITEM NUMBER 4 IS VAC-22-04
17:31:17 AND ITEM 5, REZ-22-05.
17:31:21 THEY ARE BOTH ASSOCIATED PETITION REQUEST.
17:31:24 APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE OF BOTH
17:31:28 APPLICATIONS TO BE HEARD AT THE APRIL 14, 2022 PUBLIC
17:31:28 HEARING.
17:31:32 AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE TO SPEAK ON
17:31:35 THIS REQUEST AS WELL.
17:31:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE APPLICATION.
17:31:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. HUDSON.
17:31:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE TYLER THERE.
17:31:46 I DON'T SEE MR. HUDSON.
17:31:49 ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS
17:31:53 ITEM FOR THE CONTINUANCE?
17:31:54 FOR FOUR AND FIVE?
17:31:56 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, LAND DEVELOPMENT
17:31:57 COORDINATION.
17:31:59 NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
17:32:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE REGISTERED?
17:32:04 >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
17:32:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.
17:32:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
17:32:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, IS THE 180 DAY AT
17:32:13 ISSUE AT THIS, 4 AND 5.
17:32:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A QUESTION FOR STAFF OR MISS WELLS.
17:32:19 I WAS NOT AWARE OF IT.
17:32:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MISS BARNES OR MISS WELLS, A
17:32:24 CONCERN, 180 DAYS.
17:32:26 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
17:32:30 COORDINATION.
17:32:32 NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.
17:32:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MOVE ITEMS 4 AND 5 FOR APRIL 14,
17:32:37 2022 AT WHAT TIME?
17:32:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 5:01 P.M.
17:32:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
17:32:43 ALL IN FAVOR.
17:32:44 OPPOSED.
17:32:45 MISS BARNES.
17:32:48 I KNOW WE HAVE THE CONTINUANCE, BUT WE DON'T LOAD UP
17:32:48 THE 14TH.
17:32:51 WE HAVE A RULE ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CASES.
17:32:54 SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT OVERLOADED FOR THE
17:32:56 14TH.
17:32:58 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES LAND DEVELOPMENT.
17:33:02 THERE IS AVAILABILITY FOR BOTH OF THOSE CASES ON THE
17:33:02 14TH.
17:33:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, YOU MAY CONTINUE WITH THE
17:33:07 CLEANUP.
17:33:12 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ITEM NUMBER 6, REZ-2100.
17:33:16 THE APPLICATION WAS IMPROPERLY RENOTICED.
17:33:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE.
17:33:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND.
17:33:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION GRANTED.
17:33:22 REMOVED.
17:33:24 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT
17:33:25 COORDINATION.
17:33:30 ITEM NUMBER 10, 121-27.
17:33:32 APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE FOR THE APRIL 28
17:33:35 PUBLIC HEARING, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE
17:33:37 TO SPEAK ON THIS REQUEST AS WELL.
17:33:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MECHANIK.
17:33:41 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND
17:33:45 COUNCILMEMBERS, WE ARE HERE TO ASK -- DAVID MECHANIK,
17:33:51 SORRY, TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 28 AT 5:01
17:33:55 P.M.
17:33:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHICH ONE IS THIS?
17:34:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 10.
17:34:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
17:34:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK
17:34:06 TO THE CONTINUANCE ONLY.
17:34:07 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO.
17:34:10 YES I HAVE THREE PEOPLE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON
17:34:12 THE CONTINUANCE.
17:34:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
17:34:19 THEY HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
17:34:22 EVERYBODY HAS BEEN SWORN DOWNSTAIRS.
17:34:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE SWORN FOR THE
17:34:26 CONTINUANCE PURPOSES.
17:34:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
17:34:39 >> YOU CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT THE CASE.
17:34:43 YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK OF THE CONTINUANCE.
17:34:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, A REMINDER TO THE PUBLIC, WHEN
17:34:49 THE ITEM IS ASKED TO BE CONTINUED AND YOU WISH TO
17:34:53 SPEAK, IT IS NOT ON THE MERITS.
17:34:56 DO NOT SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT MATTER ITSELF BUT WHETHER
17:34:58 OR NOT YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THE CONTINUANCE AND
17:34:58 WHY.
17:35:01 THAT IS THE ONLY REASON FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
17:35:03 THANK YOU.
17:35:04 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: THEY ARE NOT -- THEY ARE GOING TO
17:35:07 HOLD THEIR THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS UNTIL THE DATE OF THE
17:35:09 CASE..
17:35:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU.
17:35:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANYBODY ONLINE?
17:35:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE REGISTERED.
17:35:19 >>CLERK: MELISSA WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE
17:35:22 CONTINUANCE.
17:35:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
17:35:25 DO WE HAVE HER UP?
17:35:29 I DON'T SEE HER ON OUR SCREENS.
17:35:33 >>CLERK: MELISSA, YOU NEED TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
17:35:35 >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.
17:35:39 I AM ORGANIZED WITH A GROUP WHO WAS ABLE TO BE IN
17:35:39 PERSON.
17:35:42 IF THEY WANT TO HOLD THEIR THOUGHTS UNTIL THE
17:35:43 CONTINUANCE, I WILL DO THAT AS WELL.
17:35:44 THANK YOU.
17:35:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
17:35:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE THE ITEM.
17:35:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY.
17:35:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PART OF THE MOTION INCLUDE THE DATE
17:35:57 AND TIME, AND THE REASON TO DO THAT IS TO CONTINUE THE
17:35:59 NOTICE BECAUSE THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THAT
17:36:03 WILL BE THE NOTICE THAT THEY RECEIVE OF WHEN THIS ITEM
17:36:04 IS CONTINUED.
17:36:06 WE WILL NOT BE GETTING ANOTHER POSTING OR ANOTHER
17:36:09 MAILING.
17:36:12 SO IF YOU CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL --
17:36:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: APRIL 28, 5:01.
17:36:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM APRIL
17:36:21 28 AT 5:01 P.M. AND MR. SHELBY NOTICED NOT ANOTHER
17:36:23 NOTICE TO THE COMMUNITIES, CORRECT.
17:36:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY SHOULD MARK DOWN.
17:36:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APRIL 28, 5:01 P.M. OF 2022 WHEN
17:36:31 THE ITEM WILL BE HEARD.
17:36:36 THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT ARE HERE TO SPEAK, THIS IS YOUR
17:36:36 NOTICE.
17:36:37 THANK YOU.
17:36:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND?
17:36:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND.
17:36:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
17:36:42 OPPOSED.
17:36:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO A ROLL CALL ON THIS.
17:36:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY --
17:36:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU KNOW WHY, FROM NOW ON -- ANY TIME
17:36:51 WE USE VIDEO.
17:36:55 ANY TIME A MEMBER OF COUNCIL IS APPEARING VIRTUALLY, WE
17:36:57 WILL HAVE TO DO ROLL CALL VOTES TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE
17:37:00 RECORDED.
17:37:01 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
17:37:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
17:37:05 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
17:37:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
17:37:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
17:37:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
17:37:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
17:37:13 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
17:37:15 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
17:37:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS BARNES.
17:37:22 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ITEM NUMBER 11, REZ-21-130.
17:37:26 APPLICATION WAS IMPROPERLY NOTICED.
17:37:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION.
17:37:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND.
17:37:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL PLEASE.
17:37:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
17:37:33 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
17:37:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
17:37:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
17:37:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
17:37:38 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
17:37:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
17:37:42 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
17:37:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS BARNES, YOU CAN CONTINUE.
17:37:47 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES LAND DEVELOPMENT
17:37:47 COORDINATION.
17:37:51 ITEM NUMBER 12, REZ 21-35.
17:37:53 THIS APPLICATION WAS IMPROPERLY NOTICED.
17:37:54 CAN YOU ALSO --
17:38:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER.
17:38:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.
17:38:05 AND SECONDED BY MR. DINGFELDER.
17:38:07 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
17:38:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
17:38:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
17:38:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
17:38:12 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
17:38:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
17:38:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
17:38:19 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
17:38:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN CONTINUE, MISS BARNES.
17:38:24 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
17:38:24 COORDINATION.
17:38:27 THAT INCLUDES THE AGENDA CLEANUP.
17:38:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHOLE AGENDA.
17:38:31 MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
17:38:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO OPEN..
17:38:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION TO OPEN.
17:38:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO OPEN, SIR.
17:38:42 MR. MANISCALCO.
17:38:44 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
17:38:46 ROLL CALL.
17:38:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU KNOW SOMETHING, JUST FOR PURPOSES
17:38:51 OF THE MOTION, WE SHOULD HAVE MADE THE MOTION TO OPEN
17:38:55 THEM ANYWAY FOR THAT WERE CONTINUED.
17:38:58 IF COUNCIL WILL REFLECT -- IF COUNCIL WILL REFLECT THAT
17:39:01 THE MOTION WILL HAVE OPENED THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE
17:39:03 CONTINUED.
17:39:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE.
17:39:08 [INAUDIBLE]
17:39:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU.
17:39:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A MOTION AND PROPERLY SECONDED.
17:39:14 MADAM CLERK.
17:39:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
17:39:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
17:39:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
17:39:18 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
17:39:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
17:39:21 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
17:39:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
17:39:25 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
17:39:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS WE ARE OFFICIALLY OPEN FOR
17:39:30 BUSINESS FOR ITEM NUMBER 2.
17:39:32 MISS BARNS.
17:39:38 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT
17:39:39 COORDINATION.
17:39:43 BEFORE WE BEGIN, CAN HE SWEAR STAFF IN.
17:39:54 [SWEARING IN]
17:39:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE MAY BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER TWO.
17:40:00 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES LAND DEVELOPMENT ARE
17:40:02 COORDINATION.
17:40:07 FILE NO. REZ-21-690, PROPERTY IS LOCATED 810 AND
17:40:13 810 1/2 WEST HENRY AVENUE FROM PD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
17:40:20 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD.
17:40:24 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, HILLSBOROUGH
17:40:24 COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.
17:40:27 I AM GOING TO PRESENT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION
17:40:32 FINDING FOR 21-90 IN THE CENTRAL PLANNING DISTRICTS IN
17:40:34 THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE AND WITHIN THE OLD
17:40:39 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD AND HENRY AND OLA PARK IS
17:40:40 EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
17:40:44 TRANSIT LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE ALONG WEST
17:40:47 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND WITHIN EVACUATION ZONE A.
17:40:51 A PORTION IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH
17:40:52 HAZARD AREA.
17:40:54 AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
17:40:58 OUTLINED IN THE PURPLE IT IS LONG AND NARROW.
17:41:05 THE STAR IS REPRESENTING HENRY OLA PARKS AND WEST
17:41:06 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE IS TO THE SOUTH.
17:41:10 THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA IS SINGLE-FAMILY
17:41:13 DETACH AND BUSINESSES ALONG HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
17:41:17 THE REQUEST SUPPORTS -- I APOLOGIZE.
17:41:20 LASTLY HERE IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
17:41:23 THE FUTURE LAND USE A RESIDENTIAL-10.
17:41:26 GREEN FOR RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE AND THE PINK TO THE
17:41:29 SOUTH ALONG HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE
17:41:33 35 REPRESENTING THOSE COMMERCIAL USES IN THE AREA.
17:41:36 SO THE REQUEST TO SUPPORT MANY OF THE POLICIES IN THE
17:41:39 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING THE CITY'S
17:41:42 POPULATION AND THE REQUEST IS FOR FOUR SINGLE-FAMILY
17:41:43 DETACHED UNITS.
17:41:52 AND THAT IS CONSISTENT WELL POLICIES AND HOUSING
17:41:55 CHOICES THAT SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS NEEDED FOR
17:41:56 THE CITY.
17:42:02 AND ENV, POLICY 1.14.1 WHICH SPEAKS TO PROTECT THE
17:42:04 HILLSBOROUGH RIVER FROM CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY
17:42:10 AND THUS REQUIRES A SITE PLAN REZONING FOR THOSE SITES
17:42:12 ALONG THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
17:42:15 THIS REZONING IS MEETING THE POLICY DIRECTION THROUGH
17:42:18 THE PD WHICH IS A SITE PLAN CONTROLLED ZONING DISTRICT.
17:42:20 WE FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN AND WITH THAT
17:42:23 SPECIFIC POLICY DIRECTION THAT REQUIRES THAT.
17:42:27 SO IN CONCLUSION, WE FIND IT COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE
17:42:30 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ALONG WEST HENRY AVENUE
17:42:33 AND MANY OF HOUSING POLICIES IN THE PLAN AND CONSISTENT
17:42:37 WITH THE LONG-RANGE DEVELOPMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
17:42:44 AND ALSO TO POINT OUT THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AT
17:42:49 A DENSITY 4.04 UNITS PER ACRE AND THIS IS CONSISTENT
17:42:55 WITH THE RESIDENTIAL-10 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
17:42:57 THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION AND I WILL TURN BACK
17:42:58 TO ANNIE.
17:43:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE.
17:43:04 MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:43:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A QUESTION -- FORGIVE ME.
17:43:08 I HAD TO STEP OUT.
17:43:10 I NEED TO BE CLEAR THAT THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT
17:43:13 DOWNSTAIRS AND SEE THEY DID NOT REGISTER.
17:43:15 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
17:43:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THE APPLICANT ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
17:43:20 >> YES.
17:43:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD, THANK YOU.
17:43:33 ANYONE WITH QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
17:43:35 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: THANK YOU, ANNIE BARNES, LAND
17:43:36 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
17:43:38 I AM GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
17:43:40 CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
17:43:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN SEE IT IF YOU BLOW IT UP FOR
17:43:44 US.
17:43:51 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: OH, OKAY.
17:43:52 IS THAT BETTER.
17:43:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE GOT IT.
17:43:57 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: THE APPLICANT WILL REZONE 810 WEST
17:44:09 HENRY AVENUE AND 810 WEST HEN PRE AVENUE UNIT HALF WITH
17:44:10 SINGLE-FAMILY USES.
17:44:12 AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ONE WAIVER WHICH IS
17:44:13 SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN HERE.
17:44:18 SHOWN HERE IS A SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY APPROXIMATELY
17:44:21 .99 ACRE IN SIZE AND THE SITE IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED
17:44:25 WITH ONE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING.
17:44:33 THE SITE IS COMPRISED OF LOT 11, BLOCK 22 OF IDLEWILD
17:44:38 OF THE SUBDIVISION PLOTTED IN 1906.
17:44:43 THE REZONING IS FOR FOUR SINGLE-FAMILY -- SINGLE-FAMILY
17:44:44 DETACHED DWELLINGS.
17:44:46 FOR THE RECORD AN UPDATE TO THE STAFF REPORT REGARDING
17:44:50 PRINCIPLE SETBACKS.
17:44:53 THEY WILL BE NORTH 15 FEET, SOUTH 20 FEET.
17:44:54 EAST 7 FEET.
17:44:56 AND WEST 15 FEET.
17:44:59 PROPOSED MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 30 FEET WITH
17:45:02 MAXIMUM OF TWO STORIES.
17:45:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: POLICE BARNES, DO ME A FAVOR AND CAN
17:45:07 YOU ENLARGE THAT SCREEN A LITTLE BIT MORE.
17:45:08 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: OKAY.
17:45:09 BETTER?
17:45:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE YOU GO.
17:45:11 THANK YOU.
17:45:17 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: SORRY.
17:45:19 EIGHT PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND BEING PROVIDED
17:45:23 AND VEHICULAR ACCESS IS PROVIDED FROM WEST HENRY
17:45:24 AVENUE.
17:45:30 SHOWN HERE ARE THE ELEVATION PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
17:45:33 HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND
17:45:35 SURROUNDING ZONING.
17:45:39 PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE SITE IS SH-RS
17:45:43 WHICH IS SEMINOLE HEIGHTS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND
17:45:46 DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL USES.
17:45:50 AND THIS IS THE PREDOMINANT TYPE OF USE IN THE AREA.
17:45:54 PROPERTY SOUTH AND ACROSS THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER IS
17:45:59 ZONED RS-50.
17:46:01 SHOWN HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH THE EXISTING
17:46:08 HOUSE ALONG WEST HENRY AVENUE FACING SOUTH.
17:46:11 SHOWN HERE IS PROPERTY DIRECTLY WEST OF THE SUBJECT
17:46:13 SITE ALONG WEST HENRY AVENUE.
17:46:20 SHOWN HERE IS BOTH SIDES OF WEST HENRY AVENUE FACING
17:46:21 EAST.
17:46:27 AND THEN SHOWN HERE IS THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE
17:46:37 INTERSECTION OF WEST HENRY AND ISMAR AVENUE.
17:46:39 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AN COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
17:46:42 PETITION AND FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE
17:46:49 CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS PLEASE REFER
17:46:52 TO URBAN DESIGN COMMENT FOR OVERALL INCONSISTENCY
17:46:53 FINDING.
17:46:58 IF COUNCIL GRANTS, FURTHER MODIFICATION OF THE SITE
17:47:02 PLAN WITHIN FIRST AND SECOND READING STATED IN THE
17:47:06 REVISION SHEET AND ADDITIONAL BUILDING SETBACKS NEED TO
17:47:10 BE UPDATED AS SHOWN.
17:47:11 AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
17:47:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS BARNES.
17:47:18 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:47:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MISS BARNES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
17:47:21 PRESENTATION.
17:47:32 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PUT THE SITE PLAN BACK UP.
17:47:35 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: CAN YOU STILL SEE MY SCREEN?
17:47:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
17:47:38 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: OKAY, GREAT.
17:47:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE URBAN DESIGN FOLKS SAID IT WAS
17:47:44 INCONSISTENT, BUT IF WE DESIRE TO APPROVE IT, THEN THE
17:47:49 MODIFICATIONS SHOULD BE PLACED ON THERE BETWEEN FIRST
17:47:50 AND SECOND READING.
17:47:53 DOES THAT IMPLY OR TELL US THAT IF THOSE CHANGES ARE
17:47:56 MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING THAN THAT WOULD
17:48:01 CHANGE THEIR -- THEIR REVIEW TO BE CONSISTENT?
17:48:02 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: NO.
17:48:03 THAT IS INCORRECT.
17:48:07 SO THE WAIVER REQUESTED ON THE FIRST PAGE.
17:48:13 LET'S SEE IF I CAN -- WOULD BE THE REASON FOR
17:48:14 INCONSISTENCY.
17:48:21 URBAN IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
17:48:28 SO COUNCIL WOULD BE WAIVING THAT BUILD-TO-LINE.
17:48:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TELL US WHAT THAT MEANS.
17:48:36 THE REQUIRED BUILD-TO-LINE.
17:48:39 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: I WILL REFER TO URBAN DESIGN ON
17:48:42 THIS ONE.
17:48:43 >> GOOD EVENING.
17:48:45 CAN ANYBODY HEAR ME?
17:48:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU, SIR.
17:48:51 >> SO THAT BUILD-TO-LINE IS BASED ON -- IT IS AN
17:48:55 EXISTING STRUCTURE, SO IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY MEET WITH
17:48:59 WHAT THE BUILD-TO-LINE IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
17:49:02 AND ALSO A CORRECTION THAT IS NEEDED TO THE ACTUAL --
17:49:04 TO THE SITE PLAN.
17:49:06 IT WAS AN INCORRECT DISTANCE.
17:49:09 BUT IF THAT CORRECTION IS MADE, URBAN DESIGN WOULD
17:49:12 SUPPORT IT BECAUSE THE FRONT EXISTING STRUCTURE IS --
17:49:13 IS EXISTING.
17:49:18 SO WE WOULD -- WE WOULD SUPPORT THAT WAIVER.
17:49:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
17:49:21 WHAT ARE YOU SAYING BUILD-TO-LINE.
17:49:26 30 SOMETHING FEET FROM THE STREET OR 30 SOMETHING --
17:49:30 >> THAT DISTANCE FROM THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT TO THE FRONT
17:49:33 WALL OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE.
17:49:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EFFECTIVELY A FRONT-YARD SETBACK
17:49:38 THEN?
17:49:40 >> RIGHT, YEAH.
17:49:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AN UNUSUAL LAYOUT FOR A LONG SKINNY
17:49:45 WALK.
17:49:50 I WAS WALKING WITH ON THAT STREET WITH MY WIFE HENRY
17:49:52 AND WEST OLA PARK.
17:49:55 I LOOKED AT THE DRIVEWAYS AND I SAID THAT IS REALLY
17:49:56 DEEP LOTS.
17:49:59 I WAS WONDERING MORE THAN ONE HOUSE BEHIND EACH ONE
17:50:04 OF THOSE AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY INDICATION OF THAT.
17:50:07 SO DID URBAN DESIGN COME UP -- OR CONCLUDE THERE WAS
17:50:12 ANY SHORTFALL, ANY DOWNSIDE TO THIS, ANY IMPACTED ON
17:50:18 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS WITH FOUR HOUSES INSTEAD OF ONE?
17:50:22 >> NO, URBAN DESIGN DID NOT.
17:50:24 IT IS -- JUST THE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE
17:50:25 NEEDED.
17:50:30 SO WE ALSO ASKED THE APPLICANT TO ADD ELEVATION OF ALL
17:50:31 THE HOMES.
17:50:33 CONCEPT ELEVATIONS.
17:50:35 THEY ARE ONLY SHOWING THE FRONT AS A CONCEPT OF WHAT
17:50:37 THE FRONT ONE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
17:50:41 AND WE ASK THAT THEY PROVIDE ELEVATIONS FOR THE THREE
17:50:43 REMAINING STRUCTURES.
17:50:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID THEY AGREE TO THAT?
17:50:46 YES, THEY DID.
17:50:48 I TALKED TO THE APPLICANT YESTERDAY EVENING AND HE SAID
17:50:50 THEY WILL MAKE THOSE UPDATES.
17:50:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
17:50:53 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
17:50:55 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
17:51:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISS BARNES.
17:51:01 HEARING NONE, HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
17:51:04 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
17:51:13 MY NAME IS JL ALSABBAGH WITH SYCAMORE, TAMPA,
17:51:15 FLORIDA, 33615.
17:51:16 AND I AM ALSO SWORN.
17:51:19 I AM REPRESENTING HENRY STREET HOLDING LCC.
17:51:25 I HAVE WITH ME JEFF SHIRT LET AND BRENT WHO IS THE
17:51:27 OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
17:51:30 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATING AT 810 WEST HENRY AVENUE.
17:51:32 IT IS ONE ACHER IN SIZE.
17:51:36 FUTURE LAND USE R-10 AND ZONING PD.
17:51:43 THIS IS APPROVED PD BEFORE AND Z 06-76.
17:51:44 SO APPROVED WITH TWO LOTS.
17:51:47 WHAT WE ARE PROPOSE SOMETHING MODIFICATION TO THE P D
17:51:49 TO ALLOW FOUR LOT.
17:51:52 WE HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE STAFF ON THIS TO GET TO
17:51:53 THE SITE PLAN WE HAVE.
17:51:56 JUST TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, WE HAVE ON THE WEST
17:52:00 SIDE OF OUR -- THERE IS THREE LOTS.
17:52:02 TO THE EAST, TWO LOTS.
17:52:08 I WILL ADDRESS THE URBAN DESIGN DEFICIENCY OR
17:52:10 INCONSISTENCY BROUGHT UP.
17:52:14 THE EXISTING HOUSE -- AS THEY SAY THE EXISTING HOUSE ON
17:52:18 LOT 1, ENCROACHING INTO THE 20-FOOT DRIVE ACCESS AND
17:52:24 UTILITY EASEMENT.
17:52:27 SO THE HOUSE --
17:52:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CLEAR IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
17:52:30 IT IS VERY BLURRY.
17:52:34 THERE IT IS.
17:52:34 >> YES, SIR.
17:52:39 WE HAVE 18 FOOT FROM THAT -- EXISTING HOUSE TO THE
17:52:41 PROPERTY LINE BESIDE THE EXISTING TREES.
17:52:44 WHAT CAME BACK -- WE REQUIRE NOT ONLY 20 FOOT FOR THE
17:52:48 EASEMENT BUT 20 FOOT FOR THE TRUCK -- FOR THE FIRE
17:52:49 TRUCK.
17:52:50 WE COORDINATED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND NATURAL
17:52:51 RESOURCE.
17:52:54 WE MEET ON-SITE, MEASURED IT, AND CAME TO CONCLUSION
17:52:59 THAT WE ARE READY TO MOVE THE HOUSE ON.
17:53:01 TO MOVE IT AND ADJUST IT.
17:53:04 IF WE CAN, MOVE THE WALL TO ACHIEVE THAT 20-FOOT
17:53:05 REQUIRED.
17:53:08 IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE AND MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT.
17:53:12 BASED ON THAT WE GET SUPPORT FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL ON
17:53:13 THAT ONE.
17:53:16 FIRST ITEM IS ADDRESSED FULLY BY MOVING AND WE ADD A
17:53:20 NOTE INTO THE PLAN IN THIS REGARD THAT WE ARE GOING TO
17:53:23 ADJUST THE HOUSE TO ACHIEVE THE 20 FEET.
17:53:28 SECOND AND THIRD ITEM IN THE URBAN DESIGN EFFICIENCY IS
17:53:32 AMENDMENT WHICH IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
17:53:33 AMENDMENT TO THE PLAN TO CHANGE.
17:53:35 THE THIRD ITEM.
17:53:47 THIRD ITEM IS RELATED TO THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION.
17:53:51 SO WE ARE PROPOSING CRAFTSMAN-STYLE.
17:53:53 AND THIS IS ALLOWED TO HAVE.
17:53:56 WHAT STAFF IS LOOKING TO HAVE MORE ELEVATION RELATED TO
17:53:59 THE TWO-STORY HOUSES THAT WE PROPOSE.
17:54:02 SO WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT
17:54:04 TWO-STORY ELEVATION.
17:54:07 IN ADDITION, WHEN I SPOKE TO -- THE URBAN DESIGN
17:54:11 REVIEWER, HE BROUGHT UP IF WE CAN DO OUR DESIGN IN THE
17:54:17 FUTURE, THE DETAILED DESIGN FOR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN,
17:54:23 THAT WOULD BE ALSO THE POINT THAT STAFF IS MORE THAN
17:54:24 HAPPY TO DO.
17:54:27 THIS IS RELATED TO ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION THAT WE
17:54:28 PROVIDE AND ALSO TO THAT SECTION.
17:54:31 SO BASED ON THAT -- THOSE FOUR ITEMS OF THE URBAN
17:54:36 DESIGN AND I DISCUSSED IT EXCLUSIVELY WITH A VIEWER.
17:54:39 WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT AND ACHIEVE IT AND GET
17:54:43 CONSISTENCY ON THAT REGARD.
17:54:44 THE SECOND PART IS THE WAIVER.
17:54:49 WE ARE ASKING FOR A WAIVER THAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLY
17:54:54 FROM 37.799 WHICH IS THE DISTANCE FROM OUR HOUSE TO
17:54:57 THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT.
17:55:02 THE ADJACENT IS 33.77.
17:55:07 BASED ON THAT ASK FOR WAIVER AND AS YOU SEE THE STAFF
17:55:08 IS REPORTING THAT.
17:55:10 THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.
17:55:14 NO SETBACK OR A CONDITION WE ASK FOR WAIVER FOR.
17:55:18 SO IN SUMMARY, OUR REQUEST FOR PD ZONING MOD IF I IS
17:55:21 CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA OF SINGLE-FAMILY
17:55:24 USE AND WITHIN THE ALLOWED DENSITY.
17:55:27 THE REQUEST IS SUPPORTED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA
17:55:32 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VISION TO PROVIDE USE WITHIN INFILL
17:55:38 AND UTILIZE LAND TO ENSURE ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING
17:55:39 OF THE NEED OF TAMPA.
17:55:41 AND PRESENT FUTURE POPULATION.
17:55:43 WE HAVE REVIEWED THE STAFF REPORT.
17:55:45 WE ARE IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH THAT.
17:55:49 BE MORE TO TAKE CARE OF ANY CHANGE REQUIRED BETWEEN
17:55:51 FIRST READING AND THE SECOND READING.
17:55:52 SO NOTHING ELSE.
17:55:57 LOOK FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON THAT.
17:55:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
17:56:03 BEING NONE, WE WILL GO BACK ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SEE
17:56:06 IF THERE IS ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
17:56:20 ITEM NUMBER TWO.
17:56:22 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, AILEEN
17:56:24 ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
17:56:26 I HAVE 13 PEOPLE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS
17:56:29 ITEM AND THEY HAVE ALL BEEN SWORN IN.
17:56:30 I WILL BRING IN TWO AT A TIME.
17:56:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY DID YOU SAY?
17:56:33 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: 13.
17:56:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
17:56:43 ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN, SIT BACK AND HOLD TIGHT.
17:56:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ASK THE PETITIONER TO STEP ASIDE WHEN
17:56:48 THE PUBLIC IS SPEAKING.
17:56:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF THE APPLICANT CAN STEP OUT WHILE
17:56:53 THE OTHER FOLKS.
17:56:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE ROOM.
17:56:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WILL THEY BE ABLE TO WATCH THAT ON
17:56:59 THE TELEVISION MONITORS?
17:57:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, THEY CAN WATCH IT.
17:57:12 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND LET
17:57:17 THEM KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
17:57:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU CAN BEGIN
17:57:20 SPEAKING.
17:57:25 >> HI, MY NAME IS DEBBY SKIBBE, AND I LIVE AT 904 WEST
17:57:28 HENRY AVENUE.
17:57:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU SPEAK UP AND PULL THE MIC
17:57:32 TOWARD YOU.
17:57:33 ONE OR THE OTHER.
17:57:34 >> IS THIS BET HER IN.
17:57:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE YOU GO.
17:57:37 YES, MA'AM.
17:57:38 >> CAN I START?
17:57:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MA'AM, YOU CAN START.
17:57:41 >> OKAY.
17:57:46 I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO TELL YOU WHY IT IS SO
17:57:52 IMPORTANT TO ME NOT TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY.
17:57:57 FOR MARATHON 33 YEARS, I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE, AS
17:58:03 WELL AS MY HUSBAND AND ALL MY NEIGHBORS, TO THIS AREA
17:58:09 WE CAN CALL A HIDDEN GEM.
17:58:16 THIS BEAUTIFUL OPEN SPACE WITH MANY GORGEOUS TREES.
17:58:23 WE SHARE THIS WITH AN ASSORTMENT OF WILDLIFE.
17:58:26 WHICH IS HOME OF HAWKS THAT COME EVERY YEAR.
17:58:27 NEST.
17:58:28 RAISE THEIR BABIES.
17:58:31 WE WATCH THEM TEACH THEM HOW TO FLY.
17:58:35 LEAVE THE NEST AND LIVE THEIR LIFE, PRETTY MUCH THE
17:58:40 SAME WAY WE DO OUR CHILDREN.
17:58:42 I MEAN, IT IS A COMMUNITY.
17:58:45 ALL THESE TREES HOUSE MANY BEAUTIFUL BIRDS.
17:58:49 WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF OWLS THAT LIVE ON OUR
17:58:51 PROPERTIES.
17:58:56 AND -- IT JUST GOES ON AND ON THE ASSORTMENT OF BIRDS.
17:59:01 BIG HUGE WOODPECKERS SO I KNOW A LOT OF TREES THEY WANT
17:59:06 TO TEAR DOWN.
17:59:08 JUST TO FITNESS GLORIOUS NATURE.
17:59:10 WE GET TO SEE THAT.
17:59:16 WE BOUGHT THESE PROPERTIES WITH ONLY THE IDEA THAT, YOU
17:59:19 KNOW, WE CAN HAVE OUR PROPERTY AND IF WE WANTED TO
17:59:25 BUILD ANOTHER ONE, THAT IS FINE BUT YOU KNOW, A LOT
17:59:33 MORE GOING ON NOW WITH THIS REQUEST.
17:59:34 LET ME SEE.
17:59:36 WE HAVE SEEN ALL KIND OF WONDERFUL THINGS.
17:59:37 BEES.
17:59:44 BEES THAT ARE MAKING THEIR HOMES THERE.
17:59:45 WE HAVE EVERYTHING.
17:59:50 HE SEEN -- PROPERTY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, YOU
17:59:54 CAN WATCH ALLIGATORS, TURTLES CROSS ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO
17:59:59 MY PROPERTY, WHICH HAS A BEAUTIFUL ARTESIAN WELL WITH A
18:00:05 POND THAT THIS TURTLE, MANY OF THEM THROUGH THE YEARS,
18:00:10 33 YEARS AND.
18:00:13 ALL MAKING HOME OUT OF THIS LITTLE PIECE OF PARADISE WE
18:00:19 HAVE HERE.
18:00:51 AND.
18:00:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK 810 HENRY AND HOW FAR --
18:01:01 HOW MANY LOTS OVER ON ONE SIDE OF THE OTHER ARE YOU?
18:01:02 >> I AM TWO LOTS OVER.
18:01:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SAME SIDE OF THE STREET, TWO LOTS
18:01:06 OVER.
18:01:07 >> YES, SIR.
18:01:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY OTHER CONCERNS WITH REGARD TO
18:01:14 INCREASED TRAFFIC OR LACK OF SIDEWALKS OR ANYTHING
18:01:15 OTHER?
18:01:18 >> IT JUST SEEMS PRETTY EXCESSIVE WHAT THEY ARE ASKING
18:01:24 FOR IN THIS -- THIS UNIQUE SPECIAL LAND.
18:01:28 AND YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE A HOME BEING BUILT, BUT THEY
18:01:31 ARE WANTING TO HAVE A TOTAL OF FOUR HOMES.
18:01:32 JUST BLOWS MY MIND.
18:01:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO IT AND TO ME WHEN I WAS WALKING
18:01:39 THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BY COINCIDENCE THAT THERE IS ABOUT
18:01:43 TEN -- TEN OR 15 LOTS AROUND THERE THAT ARE VERY DEEP
18:01:45 DOWN TO THE RIVER.
18:01:49 IS THERE ANY PRECEDENT FOR THIS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW
18:01:52 -- IT LOOKED LIKE MOST -- MOST OF THE LOTS HAD ONE --
18:01:55 OR MAYBE TWO HOUSES.
18:01:56 >> CORRECT.
18:01:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY PRECEDENT FOR FOUR HOUSES?
18:02:00 >> NO, SIR.
18:02:04 IT BLEW MY MIND WHEN I HEARD THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY
18:02:05 PLANNED ON DOING.
18:02:10 IT WOULD BE LIKE COMING ON MY PROPERTY AND TELLING YOU
18:02:13 KNOW THE CONTRACTOR, OH, CAN YOU FIT TWO MORE HOUSES,
18:02:16 YOU KNOW, ON MY PROPERTY, YOU KNOW.
18:02:22 AND IT JUST -- IT IS NOT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE WOULD WANT
18:02:26 THAT IN OUR AREA THAT WE LIVE, YOU KNOW.
18:02:30 WE ENJOY THIS PRIVILEGE ALL OF US HAD ALMOST OVER 40
18:02:32 YEARS OR A LITTLE BIT BELOW.
18:02:33 WE HAVE BEEN 33 YEARS.
18:02:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
18:02:37 APPRECIATE IT.
18:02:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NEXT SPEAKER.
18:02:57 STATE YOUR NAME, SIR, AND BEGIN SPEAKING.
18:03:03 >> HARRY SKIBBE, 904 WEST HENRY AVENUE.
18:03:04 ME AND MY WIFE.
18:03:07 WE LIVED THERE SINCE 1988.
18:03:10 WHEN WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IT WAS TWO LOTS.
18:03:16 TWO LOTS FOR A REASON, BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T BE FOUR.
18:03:19 WITH THE PEOPLE WE ARE DEALING WITH, YOU ONLY MAKE ONE
18:03:20 FIRST IMPRESSION.
18:03:24 AND THEY HAVE COME UP WITH A LOT OF LIES AND DECEIT.
18:03:29 IT STARTS BACK EVEN WITH TREE REMOVALS FOR THE PROPERTY
18:03:31 DIDN'T HAVE ANY HOUSES BUILT.
18:03:33 FIRST THEY CLAIM THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD ONE HOUSE.
18:03:36 NOW IT IS THREE.
18:03:40 THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE WITHIN 250 FEET THAT ARE
18:03:45 HERE TODAY HAVE OVER 250 YEARS COLLECTIVELY LIVING
18:03:48 THERE.
18:03:52 FOUR HOUSE ALSO IMPACT ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN
18:03:55 THAT AREA AND THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE DOWN HENRY
18:03:59 AVENUE ALL THE WAY TO FLORIDA, WHICH WILL REALLY CREATE
18:04:03 ANOTHER PROBLEM WITH -- WITH TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING.
18:04:07 REMOVING 48 TREES WILL IMPACT A LOT OF THE WILDLIFE
18:04:12 THAT LIVE THERE WHERE THEY ARE GOING.
18:04:14 WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO?
18:04:17 THEY GOT TO LIVE SOMEWHERE TOO.
18:04:21 THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY HAVE BOUGHT IT FOR
18:04:24 INVESTMENT REASONS WITH NO CONCERN FOR THE RESIDENTS
18:04:29 THAT LIVE -- LIVE IN THAT AREA.
18:04:32 AND THE ONES THAT LIVE THERE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR OVER
18:04:37 250 COLLECTIVE YEARS LIKE I SAID EARLIER.
18:04:40 I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE REJECTED.
18:04:43 I CAN SEE ONE HOUSE BEING ADDED BUT NOT THREE.
18:04:46 AND EVERYBODY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THINKS THE SAME
18:04:47 THING.
18:04:51 AND I GUESS YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM A FEW OF THEM.
18:04:54 HAVE YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
18:05:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, SIR, THANK YOU.
18:05:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME AND BEGIN SPEAKING.
18:05:17 >> SAM SELLERS.
18:05:20 LIVE AT 808 WEST HENRY.
18:05:24 I HAVE THE ADJOINING PROPERTY NEXT TO THIS 810 HENRY.
18:05:27 WE WOULD HAVE NEVER KNOWN ANYTHING WAS GOING ON WITH
18:05:33 THIS PROPERTY THAT THE REZONING WAS IN EFFECT.
18:05:36 I WAS CONTACTED BY SABLE ENGINEERING THAT THEY HAD A
18:05:39 TREE THAT THEY WANTED TO BE REMOVED FROM MY PROPERTY.
18:05:44 SO THEY CAN -- THEY SAID IT HAD A DISEASE TO IT.
18:05:47 THAT IS WHAT KIND OF GAVE ME A LITTLE ALARM THAT THEY
18:05:51 WOULD TAKE THE EXPENSE OF REMOVING THIS TREE.
18:05:55 I STARTED LOOKING A LITTLE BIT INTO IT WHEN I ASKED THE
18:05:58 GUY FROM SABLE ENGINEERING WHAT THEIR PLAN WAS ON THIS
18:05:59 PROPERTY.
18:06:02 HE SAID THEY WERE GOING TO REBUILD -- OR BUILD ONE HOME
18:06:03 DOWN BY THE RIVER.
18:06:09 SO I -- I WAS ALL FOR THAT I HAVE NO OBJECTION BUILDING
18:06:11 ONE HOUSE DOWN BY THAT RIVER.
18:06:16 WOULDN'T HAVE AN OBJECTION OF REMOVING THAT TREE IF
18:06:18 THAT'S ALL THEY WERE GOING TO DO.
18:06:21 I WENT TO LOOK INTO IT, I SEE THAT -- PULLED THE SITE
18:06:23 PLAN AND SEE THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD THREE HOUSES ON
18:06:25 THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
18:06:27 THAT IS NOT WHAT I WAS TOLD.
18:06:30 I WOULD NEVER HAVE KNOWN THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IF I
18:06:33 NEVER SEEN A SIGN OUT IN FRONT OF YARD.
18:06:37 I PULL IN AND OUT OF THAT DRIVEWAY THREE TO FOUR TIMES
18:06:37 A DAY.
18:06:40 I NEVER SEEN A REZONING SIGN OUT FRONT.
18:06:43 WHEN THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO SEND US CERTIFIED LETTER
18:06:45 BEFORE THE FIRST HEARING.
18:06:47 I NEVER RECEIVED THEM.
18:06:51 I WENT AROUND TO ASK MY NEIGHBORS IF THEY RECEIVED
18:06:55 THEM, NOBODY RECEIVED ANY LETTERS FOR THE REZONING.
18:06:58 I THINK ALL OF THIS WAS KIND OF -- IT WAS TRYING TO BE
18:07:01 DONE BEHIND OUR BACK.
18:07:03 THE TREE REMOVAL PLAN THAT THEY HAVE.
18:07:07 I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO REMOVE -- I THINK 48 TREES.
18:07:10 THAT IS HUGE.
18:07:14 I HAVE A -- FROM THE ROAD TO THE RIVER, THERE ARE
18:07:17 17-FOOT DIFFERENCE FROM THE STREET TO THE RIVER WHERE I
18:07:17 LIVE.
18:07:19 MY HOUSE IS ON THE RIVER.
18:07:23 AND I BOUGHT THE HOUSE THAT WAY.
18:07:24 I DIDN'T BUILD IT.
18:07:26 THERE IS A LOT OF RUNOFF OF WATER DOWN THERE.
18:07:30 WHEN IT RAINS HARD, IT IS SCARY WHEN YOU SEE THE WATER
18:07:34 COME DOWN THAT RIVER ORE COME DOWN THE ROAD TO THE
18:07:34 HOUSE.
18:07:37 I FLOOD VERY EASY.
18:07:42 I -- MY PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 16 INCHES LOWER THAN
18:07:43 THE 810 HENRY.
18:07:47 SO ALL THE WATER RIGHT NOW RUNS OFF, YOU KNOW, ON TO MY
18:07:48 PROPERTY.
18:07:52 I HAD TO DIG TRENCHES ON EACH SIDE OF MY PROPERTY TO
18:07:57 GET THE WATER TO NOT GO THROUGH MY GARAGES OR MY HOUSE.
18:08:02 AND SO IT HAS BEEN A BIG PROBLEM.
18:08:04 I THINK WITH THE PARK UP THE STREET.
18:08:08 AND THE PARK IS A VERY, VERY ACTIVE PARK.
18:08:12 THE CARS ON THE SATURDAY, WEEKENDS ARE PARKED ALL THE
18:08:13 WAY UP AND DOWN THE ROAD.
18:08:15 THERE ARE SOME NEW HOUSES THAT WERE BUILT THAT DON'T
18:08:17 HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THOSE.
18:08:20 SO THOSE PEOPLE PARK IN THE STREET.
18:08:23 SO A LOT OF TIME ON A SATURDAY OR WEEKEND WHEN I GO TO
18:08:26 PULL OUT, I CANNOT GO DOWN HENRY.
18:08:29 I GOT TO GO AROUND THE BLOCK BECAUSE NO ROOM FOR ME TO
18:08:31 GET DOWN HENRY.
18:08:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:08:34 THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
18:08:34 >> THANK YOU.
18:08:35 ANY QUESTIONS?
18:08:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, SIR, NO QUESTIONS.
18:08:56 >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
18:08:59 >> MY NAME IS ROGER THEO, 809 WEST HENRY.
18:09:11 IN ADDITION I OWN 805 WEST HENRY, 5909.
18:09:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU COME CLOSER TO THE MIC,
18:09:14 SIR.
18:09:15 >> SORRY.
18:09:17 WITHIN THE 250 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
18:09:18 I AM NOT AGAINST IMPROVEMENTS.
18:09:22 A SECOND HOME ON THE PROPERTY WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT,
18:09:25 BUT WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING IS ANYTHING BUT AN
18:09:26 IMPROVEMENT.
18:09:29 THEY PURCHASED PROPERTY A YEAR AGO ACTUALLY THIS MONTH.
18:09:33 AND THEY KNEW IT WAS TWO LOTS WHEN THEY PURCHASED IT.
18:09:37 SO IT AND THAT THEY HAD BEEN PLANNING THIS THE WHOLE
18:09:38 TIME.
18:09:44 AND IF YOU ARE ALLOWED TO LET THEM DO THIS.
18:09:47 THEY WILL MOVE -- 40-PLUS TREES.
18:09:50 I LOST COUNT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WILL DO TO THE
18:09:53 ENVIRONMENT, THE RUNOFF COMING FROM THIS PROPERTY, FROM
18:09:57 REZONING IT, ALL OF THE WATER THAT IS CURRENTLY GOING
18:10:01 INTO THE PERVIOUS GROUND WILL ALL BE DIRECTED INTO THE
18:10:01 RIVER.
18:10:04 I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HELPS ANYBODY.
18:10:08 I MEAN, THIS IS A COMPLETE OVERBUILD OF THE PROPERTY.
18:10:12 IN FACT, I LOOK TODAY AND IT IS ACTUALLY FOR SALE ON
18:10:15 ZILLOW AT DOUBLE THE COST OF WHAT THEY PURCHASED THIS
18:10:16 PROPERTY FOR.
18:10:19 SO EVIDENTLY SOMEBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
18:10:23 THE NOTICES THEY SENT OUT AGAIN LIKE THE PREVIOUS
18:10:25 PERSON SAID, NOBODY GOT THEM.
18:10:25 I DIDN'T GET THEM.
18:10:27 I SHOULD HAVE GOT FOUR OF THEM.
18:10:29 I DIDN'T GET THEM.
18:10:31 SIGN DID DISAPPEAR.
18:10:33 DISAPPEAR LIKE SOMEBODY IS JUST TRYING TO GET IN THERE,
18:10:37 GET THE MONEY, USE THE CODE, SWITCH THE CODES AROUND,
18:10:39 CHANGE SOME ZONINGS SO THEY CAN DO IT ALL FOR PROFIT
18:10:41 AND THEN WALK AWAY.
18:10:45 I HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED REAL CLOSELY AT THE DRAWINGS.
18:10:49 THE GARBAGE AREA AT THE FRONT, WELL, LESS THAN
18:10:50 DESIRABLE.
18:10:57 NOT LARGE ENOUGH MOST LIKELY AND IT JUST DOESN'T APPEAR
18:11:00 -- DOESN'T APPEAR LIKE IT IS ANYTHING THAT IS GOOD TO
18:11:03 HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANYBODY THERE WHO EVEN WANTS
18:11:04 IT.
18:11:07 LIKE I SAID, THE NOTICE, THE POSTING, THE MAILERS,
18:11:12 EVERYTHING WAS DONE AS IF SOMEBODY KNOWS HOW -- HOW THE
18:11:13 ZONING WORKS.
18:11:16 HOW THE THINGS HAVE TO BE DONE FOR THE HEARINGS.
18:11:19 I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE HEARINGS OR THE SECOND
18:11:25 HEARING UNLESS IF IT WEREN'T FOR A FEW OF MY NEIGHBORS.
18:11:28 I CAN'T HELP BUT STRESS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO TO
18:11:31 THE ENVIRONMENT TAKING ALL THOSE TREES OUT.
18:11:35 AND ACTUALLY MORE TREES THAN I THOUGHT.
18:11:38 AND MY HOPE IS THAT YOU WILL NOT APPROVE THIS TO BE
18:11:41 DONE AS -- BECAUSE IT IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING GOOD
18:11:42 FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:11:44 THANK YOU.
18:12:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:12:05 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, GENTLEMEN.
18:12:07 MY NAME IS ROBERT HARRISON.
18:12:09 I OWN TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE VERY CLOSE TO THIS
18:12:10 PROPERTY.
18:12:15 FRONT PARCEL 808 WEST HENRY, WHICH IS ADJACENT AND
18:12:19 ACROSS THE STREET 11 WEST HENRY.
18:12:23 MY FAMILY OWNED PROPERTY ON -- ADJACENT TO THIS
18:12:25 PROPERTY FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS.
18:12:35 AND ALL THESE PROPERTIES -- THE CURRENT ZONING OF RURAL
18:12:38 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IS VERY WELL PRESERVED.
18:12:42 THE NATURE AND APPEAL OF -- OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:12:46 INCREASING THE DENSITY OF ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES WILL
18:12:47 CHANGE.
18:12:51 I AM AGAINST ANY OF -- INCREASING ANY OF DENSITY WHICH
18:12:52 WOULD DO SO.
18:12:54 OUR STREETS ARE NARROW.
18:12:56 WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF ANY
18:12:58 DRIVEWAYS.
18:13:03 AND I -- I URGE YOU TO KEEP THINGS AS THEY ARE.
18:13:07 TWO HOUSES PER PARCEL WHICH THE WAY IT IS, IT HAS BEEN,
18:13:09 AND THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
18:13:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:13:10 QUESTIONS.
18:13:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
18:13:38 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, KEN SWIBERGER, 804 WEST HENRY, WHICH
18:13:41 IS A COUPLE OF STREETS -- A COUPLE OF LOTS DOWN.
18:13:44 WE HAVE A LOT THAT RUN ALMOST 600 FEET FROM THE STREET
18:13:45 FROM THE RIVER.
18:13:47 WE LIVE IN A PARADISE.
18:13:53 WE HAVE ARTESIAN WELLS AND HAWKS.
18:13:54 OWLS.
18:13:56 AND IT IS A BEAUTIFUL -- IT IS A FLORIDA PARADISE.
18:13:59 AGAIN, I HEARD IT A COUPLE OF TIMES.
18:14:00 WE RECEIVED NO NOTICE.
18:14:04 I NEVER SEEN NOTICE BY THE PROPERTY.
18:14:07 LET ME JUST TELL YOU THE KING TIDES ON.
18:14:11 HIGH PROPERTY AND SOUTHERLY WINDS, IT FLOODS 150 FEET
18:14:12 INTO MY PROPERTY.
18:14:16 TO BUILD ANYTHING WITHOUT ELEVATING IT OR BUILDING DOWN
18:14:22 INTO THE BEDROCK, I WOULD THINK IS FOOLISH.
18:14:27 ONCE YOU DO THAT YOU WILL DISRUPT MY ARTESIAN WELLS.
18:14:29 YOU WILL BUILD SO HIGH THAT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE
18:14:30 THE SKY AT NIGHT.
18:14:33 I HEARD THE TREES MENTIONED SO MANY TIMES.
18:14:39 TO CUT DOWN A 100-YEAR-OLD OAK BECAUSE ONE LIMB ROTTING
18:14:41 ON IT IS CRAZY.
18:14:45 AND WE, THE CITY OF TAMPA, Y'ALL, US, WE ALL LET THEM
18:14:46 DO IT.
18:14:48 THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
18:14:48 THEY ARE OVERBUILDING.
18:14:50 THIS IS TWO LOTS.
18:14:52 MY GRANDPARENTS HAD THIS LOT.
18:14:54 MY PARENTS HAD THIS LOT.
18:14:54 I HAVE IT.
18:14:57 AND NOW MY CHILDREN LIVE IN IT.
18:14:59 FOUR GENERATIONS HAVE LIVED IN MY HOME AND IT IS TWO
18:14:59 LOTS.
18:15:01 WE ONLY HAVE ONE HOUSE.
18:15:06 WE WON'T SEE US BUILDING TWO HOUSES ON IT, WHICH IS
18:15:08 ACCEPTABLE, BUT FOUR IS OUT OF THE QUESTION.
18:15:13 I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO NOT LET THEM DO THIS.
18:15:14 THANK YOU.
18:15:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION, SIR.
18:15:16 MR. CHAIR.
18:15:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:15:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW FAR AWAY IS YOUR FAMILY'S
18:15:23 PROPERTY FROM THE SUBJECT.
18:15:25 >> 804, SO THREE LOTS DOWN.
18:15:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THREE LOTS DOWN.
18:15:29 AND YOU ARE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THAT STRETCH ALONG
18:15:30 THERE.
18:15:32 HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED THERE?
18:15:33 >> 60 YEARS.
18:15:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 60 YEARS.
18:15:36 ALL RIGHT.
18:15:41 SO CAN -- CAN YOU TESTIFY IN REGARD TO THE PROPOSED
18:15:46 COMPATIBILITY OF FOUR UNITS AS COMPARED TO WHAT I
18:15:50 BELIEVE YOU SAID MOST PEOPLE HAVE ONE VERSUS TWO.
18:15:52 IS THAT ACCURATE?
18:15:54 >> I BELIEVE SO.
18:15:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM SORRY?
18:15:57 >> I BELIEVE SO.
18:15:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:16:19 >> THANK YOU.
18:16:24 >> ROLAND VIXLER, 910 WEST HENRY AVENUE.
18:16:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LITTLE CLOSER PLEASE.
18:16:30 >> MY ALLOTTED TIME WILL BE TURNED OVER TO MY WIFE
18:16:32 GERALDINE HOLIDAY.
18:16:34 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AND I HAVE THE PAPERWORK.
18:16:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
18:16:37 >> HELLO.
18:16:43 MY NAME IS GERALDINE HOLLOWAY, AND I LIVE 910 WEST HENRY
18:16:43 AVENUE.
18:16:46 I OWN EIGHT PROPERTIES ON WEST HENRY, THREE OF WHICH
18:16:49 ARE WITHIN 250 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
18:16:52 I GREW UP IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
18:16:56 AND I HAVE LIVED ON HENRY AVENUE FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
18:16:58 I HAVE SEEN MANY CHANGES DURING THAT TIME.
18:17:01 MOST OF THEM HAVE NOT BEEN POSITIVE.
18:17:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MA'AM, STAND IN FRONT OF THE MIC A
18:17:05 LITTLE BIT.
18:17:06 >> DO I NEED TO REPEAT?
18:17:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF YOU WOULD.
18:17:11 >> I LIVED ON HENRY AVENUE FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND I HAVE
18:17:13 SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES DURING THAT TIME.
18:17:16 MOST OF THOSE ARE NOT REALLY BEEN POSITIVE.
18:17:18 LOT SPLITS.
18:17:19 DEMOLITIONS.
18:17:25 MCMANSIONS HAVE ALL INCREASED TRAFFIC, DECREASED GREEN
18:17:30 SPACE, DESTROYED HABITATS AND GENERALLY DIMINISHED OUR
18:17:32 QUALITY OF LIFE.
18:17:36 WHEN I MOVED TO HENRY AVENUE, IT WAS NOT UNCOMMON TO
18:17:41 SEE RACCOON FAMILIES, TORTOISES, OWLS AND OTHER
18:17:42 WILDLIFE.
18:17:43 THAT HAS CHANGED.
18:17:48 WHEN I MOVED THERE, THE RIVER ONLY OVERFLOWED ITS BANKS
18:17:52 DURING HURRICANES.
18:17:57 OVERDEVELOPMENT IN COMBINATION WITH GLOBAL WARMING HAVE
18:18:01 CAUSED THE RIVER TO YO FLOW DURING HURRICANE SEASON AND
18:18:03 ACTUALLY MOST OF THE YEAR.
18:18:06 TODAY WHEN I LEFT THE HOUSE, THE RIVER WAS ABOUT EIGHT
18:18:09 INCHES BELOW MY DOCK.
18:18:13 WHICH HAS CREATED ITS OWN PROBLEMS.
18:18:17 NOW THE RIVER REGULARLY OVERFLOWS THE BANKS AND FLOODS
18:18:18 THE PROPERTIES.
18:18:23 HIGHER TIDES AND RUNOFF FROM ADJACENT STREETS HAVE
18:18:28 RAISED THE WATER TABLE SUBSTANTIALLY AND THE GROUND
18:18:32 STAYS SATURATED MOST OF TIME.
18:18:35 THE LOTS ALONG HENRY AVENUE WERE PLATTED THE WAY THEY
18:18:36 WERE FOR THE REASON.
18:18:40 THE BACK PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTIES WERE MUCH LOWER
18:18:42 THAN THEY ARE AT THE STREET.
18:18:47 AND THEY BASICALLY WERE INTENDED, I BELIEVE, TO AFFORD
18:18:51 DRAINAGE TO THE STREET AND THE PROPERTIES AT THE
18:18:51 STREET.
18:18:54 ALTHOUGH SOME OF THE BACK PARCELS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED,
18:18:58 THERE IS NO PRECEDENT FOR PUTTING FOUR HOUSES ON A
18:19:01 SINGLE PLATTED LOT.
18:19:04 THERE ARE A FEW THAT HAVE TWO HOUSES AND PROBABLY ABOUT
18:19:06 HALF ONLY HAVE ONE ON THEM.
18:19:10 THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE
18:19:11 DEVELOPED.
18:19:13 THE QUESTION IS SHOULD IT BE DEVELOPED IN THE MANNER
18:19:17 THAT THEY ARE SEEKING TO DO.
18:19:20 WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THIS APPLICATION.
18:19:23 DON'T LET OUTSIDERS COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND DESTROY
18:19:26 OUR PEACE OF PARADISE.
18:19:29 PANDORA'S BOX CANNOT BE CLOSED ONCE IT IS OPENED.
18:19:30 THANK YOU.
18:19:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
18:19:55 >> HELLO, CITY COUNCIL, MICHAEL GRAHAM, 900 WEST
18:19:56 HENRY.
18:19:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU PULL THE MIC UP.
18:20:02 >> I LIVE AT 900 WEST HENRY, THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO
18:20:09 THE WEST OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES THIS WILL EFFECT ME
18:20:13 DIRECTLY BUILDING FOUR HOMES.
18:20:16 ALL HOMES THERE ARE AT LEAST OLDER HOMES.
18:20:18 FOUR NEW HOMES WILL BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
18:20:23 TAKING DOWN TREES WILL ABSOLUTELY BE A HORRIBLE.
18:20:28 OPPOSED TO THE ENTIRE IDEA OF IT ALL.
18:20:31 THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THE MATTER.
18:20:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:20:53 >> QUESTIONS
18:20:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN BEGIN AT ANY TIME, MA'AM.
18:20:57 >> GOOD EVENING.
18:20:58 MY NAME IS KAREN GRAHAM.
18:21:01 YOU JUST HEARD FROM MY HUSBAND, SCOTT.
18:21:04 WE OWN AND RESIDE AT 900 WEST HENRY AVENUE WHICH IS
18:21:07 DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
18:21:10 WE HAVE LIVED IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS FOR OVER 23 YEARS.
18:21:12 ONE OF THINGS WE LOVED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE THE
18:21:15 PLENTIFUL MATURE TREES AND NATURAL AREAS, PARTICULARLY
18:21:19 ON THE RIVERSIDE TO HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
18:21:22 MANY BIRDS SUCH AS OWLS, HAWKS AND OTHER WILDLIFE
18:21:26 INHABIT THE AREA WHICH IS RATHER UNIQUE IN CENTRAL
18:21:27 TAMPA AS YOU ALREADY KNOW.
18:21:29 THE PROPERTY BETWEEN OUR HOME AND 902 DIRECTLY BEHIND
18:21:33 US ON THE RIVER HAS INTENTIONALLY BEEN KEPT UNDEVELOPED
18:21:36 AND NATURAL TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROPERTY
18:21:39 AND THE SITE PLAINS TO HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
18:21:43 IN FACT, WE HAVE REMOVED A DETACHED SHED MEANS YEAR AGO
18:21:45 TO FURTHER OPEN THE SPACE.
18:21:48 THE TREES AND LANDSCAPE ARE NOT ONLY BEAUTIFUL BUT ALSO
18:21:52 ESSENTIALLY TO MUFFLE TRAFFIC NOISE OF BUSY
18:21:53 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE ACROSS THE RIVER.
18:21:57 WE BOTH STRONGLY OBJECT TO THE APPLICATION OF REZONING
18:22:00 FOR THE APPLICANT TO BUILD THREE ADDITIONAL HOMES UNDER
18:22:02 A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
18:22:10 IT IS EXCESSIVE, INCONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBOR AND
18:22:16 WILL BE DETRIMENTAL IN MANY WAYS.
18:22:20 REMOVING TREE ALSO NOT ONLY IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT BUT
18:22:22 HAVE IMPACT TO STORMWATER RUNOFF.
18:22:25 THE INCREASED TRAFFIC FOR THREE ADDITIONAL HOMES ON
18:22:30 SUBJECT PROPERTY ITSELF WITH A ONE-WAY INGRESS AND
18:22:33 EGRESS WILL HAVE BACKUPS ON HENRY AVENUE.
18:22:35 OUR HOME IS LOCATED JUST OFF THE STREET WITH OUR MASTER
18:22:38 BEDROOM AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE BORDERING THAT SAID
18:22:41 INGRESS-EGRESS.
18:22:46 BLARING HEADLIGHTS AND WINDOWS AT NIGHT ALONG WITH A
18:22:48 ACCOMPANIED NOISE IS A MAJOR CONCERN FOR US.
18:22:51 ALREADY AN ISSUE WITH THROUGH TRAFFIC COMING DOWN HENRY
18:22:55 AVENUE ONLY TO HIT THE DEAD END AND TURN AROUND OR
18:23:00 OTHERWISE EXIT OFTEN ON EXCESSIVE SPEEDS.
18:23:03 LIVING DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WE
18:23:07 HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY POSTED SIGNS OF A REZONING HEARING.
18:23:11 IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TO MISS IF IT HAD BEEN
18:23:14 MADE PROPERLY AVAILABLE TO SEE BY ALL NEIGHBORS WHO
18:23:18 WOULD BE POTENTIALLY IMPACTING BY THE REZONING.
18:23:22 WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU DENY THE REQUEST TO
18:23:23 REZONE.
18:23:26 APPROVING WILL SET A DANGEROUS PRECEDENCE FOR FUTURE
18:23:30 OVERDEVELOPMENT OF OUR BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SEMINOLE
18:23:31 HEIGHTS NEIGHBOR.
18:23:33 THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
18:23:35 ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
18:23:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:23:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MA'AM, SEVERAL PEOPLE SAID YOU
18:23:40 DIDN'T SEE THE SIGN.
18:23:45 YOU LIVE DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR.
18:23:46 >> CORRECT.
18:23:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU GET YOUR MAIL NEXT DOOR?
18:23:52 >> OUR MAILBOX IS ON OUR HOME AND YOUR DRIVEWAY IS NEXT
18:23:53 TO 810.
18:23:56 SO WE ENTER AND EXIT AND PASS DAILY.
18:23:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
18:24:00 DID YOU GET A WRITTEN NOTICE ABOUT THIS?
18:24:02 A PIECE OF PAPER THAT TALKED ABOUT THE UPCOMING
18:24:04 HEARING?
18:24:09 >> I GOT ONE NOTICE DATED DECEMBER 14.
18:24:11 AND THIS WAS IT.
18:24:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DECEMBER 14.
18:24:15 >> OTHER THAN THAT, NO.
18:24:17 NOTHING POSTED IN THE YARD, EVER.
18:24:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID ANYBODY REACH OUT TO YOU, THE
18:24:23 BUILDER OR THE DEVELOPER OR OWNER REACH OUT TO YOU AS
18:24:26 THE NEIGHBORS TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE PROJECT?
18:24:27 >> IN PERSON?
18:24:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.
18:24:30 >> NEVER, NO, SIR.
18:24:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BY PHONE OR NOTHING?
18:24:35 >> NO, NOT AT ALL.
18:24:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
18:24:56 >> THANK YOU.
18:24:58 >>> GOOD EVENING, MICHAEL HICKEY --
18:25:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LIFT THE MIC UP A LITTLE BIT SO YOU
18:25:03 DON'T STRAIN YOUR NECK.
18:25:06 >> 902 WEST HENRY AVENUE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY THAT
18:25:07 WANTS TO BE DEVELOPED.
18:25:11 I AM GIVING MY TIME TO MY WIFE, CINDY.
18:25:14 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AND I HAVE HER PAPERWORK.
18:25:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS AILEEN.
18:25:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOUR MINUTES THEN.
18:25:22 >> I THOUGHT IT WAS SIX.
18:25:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AN EXTRA MINUTE.
18:25:26 >> I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH ALL MY STATEMENT.
18:25:27 I AM VERY NERVOUS.
18:25:29 I TYPED THIS ALL OUT.
18:25:31 MY NAME IS CINDY HICKEY.
18:25:34 902 WEST HENRY AVENUE WHICH IS DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF
18:25:35 IN PROPERTY.
18:25:38 WE HAVE BEEN THERE 39 YEARS.
18:25:42 WE CALL IT OUR LITTLE SLICE OF HEAVEN AS YOU CAN SEE
18:25:44 FROM THE SITE AERIAL PLAN.
18:25:47 LARGE LOTS AROUND THE RIVER, HABITATS OF MANY KIND.
18:25:51 I WOULD PERSONALLY WITNESS BIRDS SEEKING OUT THE
18:25:53 CORRIDOR OF THIS PROPERTY NEXT TO US TO GO IN AND OUT
18:25:54 OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:25:56 WE ARE HERE TONIGHT IN SPITE OF THE APPLICANT'S EFFORTS
18:25:59 TO PUSH THIS REZONING THROUGH WITHOUT ALLOWING
18:26:01 NEIGHBORS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
18:26:03 YOU HAVE 11 STATEMENTS FILED.
18:26:08 EIGHT OF WHICH ARE THE 250-FEET NEIGHBORS THAT WE WERE
18:26:12 NEVER -- WE NEVER RECEIVED A NOTICE ON -- WHEN IT WAS
18:26:15 FIRST SCHEDULED FOR HEARING ON OCTOBER 28.
18:26:18 AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A SIGN.
18:26:20 YOU CAN HEAR FROM SOMEONE WHO WILL COME IN REMOTELY WHO
18:26:22 WITNESSED SOMEONE PUT THE SIGN UP.
18:26:24 TAKE A PICTURE, TAKE IT DOWN.
18:26:26 SO I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THEY COULD HAVE COME TO YOU ON
18:26:29 OCTOBER 28, AND WOULD HAVE BEEN NO OPPOSITION AT ALL.
18:26:34 THEY NEVER RESIDED ON THIS PROPERTY.
18:26:38 AND UNDERSTANDABLY THEY DON'T VALUE THE LAND OTHER THAN
18:26:40 HOW MUCH MONEY THAT CAN BE MADE.
18:26:44 PROPERTY OWNER WITNESS 250 FEET MANY OF WHOM LIVE
18:26:47 IN THEIR HOMES FOR DECADES AS YOU HEARD TONIGHT AND IF
18:26:49 YOU READ THE STATEMENTS.
18:26:53 EVERY ONE OF THEM OPPOSES THIS REZONING, AND THEY SAY
18:26:56 IN THEIR STATEMENTS, NO NOTICE FOR THE FIRST HEARING.
18:27:01 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT -- THE STAFF REPORT FINDS THAT
18:27:04 IT IS CONSISTENT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, NONE OF
18:27:09 WHICH TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE MAGNITUDE OF DESIGN,
18:27:11 ELEVATION WITH THE SITE PLAN SHOW SINGLE STORY.
18:27:14 THEY DID TOUCH ON THAT WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE
18:27:17 TWO-STORY OR STILT OR ELEVATIONS OF 12 FEET.
18:27:21 THERE ARE NO OTHER LOTS ON HENRY AVENUE WITH FOUR
18:27:22 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
18:27:23 I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.
18:27:27 THE LAYOUT IS CONTRARY TO THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS VILLAGE
18:27:32 CONCEPT WHICH ENCOURAGES FRONT PORCHES WHERE PEOPLE CAN
18:27:34 GATHER AND INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER.
18:27:38 THE STAFF REPORT SAY THAT THE LOTS I LIVE ON HAVE THREE
18:27:41 ZONING LOTS THAT IMPLIES THREE STRUCTURES TO -- THAT IS
18:27:46 MISLEADING, TWO RESIDENCE, MINE AND THE LADY YOU JUST
18:27:46 HEARD FROM.
18:27:49 THE THIRD LOT LACK AN EGRESS, INGRESS.
18:27:53 AND NOT BUILDABLE UNLESS IT IS REZONED.
18:27:57 SECTION 136 REQUIRES THAT YOU GIVE CONSIDERATION OF
18:28:01 POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS OF SURROUNDED NEIGHBORHOOD
18:28:05 AND CULTURAL RESOURCES.
18:28:08 NOTHING OF THE PROPOSED PLAN ADHERES TO THIS.
18:28:10 JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY WHO DIDN'T LIVE ON HENRY AVENUE
18:28:14 OF A COMPREHENSIVE THAT DAY TEN HOUSES CAN BE BUILT ON
18:28:17 AN ACRE OF LAND DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN PUT FOUR ON A LOT
18:28:19 AND DESTROY NATURAL BEAUTY AND HABITAT.
18:28:22 NOTHING OF COVERING THE LAND FOR IMPERVIOUS MATERIALS
18:28:27 CONSIDERS THE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NATURAL ELEMENTS.
18:28:30 WETLAND AND TREES TO BE CONSIDERED AND NO CONSIDERATION
18:28:32 HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE
18:28:34 NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ALREADY SUFFERS FROM TRAFFIC AND
18:28:36 DRAINAGE APPROXIMATE.
18:28:37 THIS PROJECT WILL ONLY CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.
18:28:41 THIS IS NOT UNDERUTILIZED LAND.
18:28:44 THE PROPERTY IS ZONED FOR TWO HOUSE SO AS THE APPLICANT
18:28:47 CAN BUILD ANOTHER HOUSE WITHOUT REZONING THE PROPERTY.
18:28:51 BY MY COUNT, THERE ARE 12 SIMILAR LOTS.
18:28:54 NONE HAVE MORE THAN TWO HOUSES AND HALF ONLY HAVE ONLY
18:28:55 ONE.
18:28:58 THIS PLAN IS APPROVED IT WILL DESTROY THE ECOSYSTEMS OF
18:29:00 ALL THESE WATERFRONT LOTS.
18:29:02 SORRY, BUT I HAD SIX MINUTES.
18:29:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GO AHEAD AND FINISH.
18:29:07 YOU LIVE 250 FEET AWAY FROM THAT PROPERTY.
18:29:08 >> THANK YOU.
18:29:10 I TALKED A LOT ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT IS
18:29:11 IMPORTANT TO ME.
18:29:15 BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THIS PROJECT DIRECTLY IMPACTS
18:29:16 OUR PROPERTY AND QUALITIES OF LIFE.
18:29:19 THE SITE PLAN DOES NOT MAKE IT CLEAR WHETHER THE LAND
18:29:22 ELEVATIONS ARE ACTUAL OR PROPOSED NOR DOES IT SHOW HOW
18:29:24 MUCH FILL WILL BE REQUIRED TO CONSTRUCT THREE MORE
18:29:25 HOUSES.
18:29:27 REGARDLESS OF EFFORTS TO KEEP THE WATER RUNOFF FROM
18:29:31 ADJOINING PROPERTIES, WE KNOW THE IMPACT ANY EXTRA
18:29:33 WATER WILL HAVE ON OUR PROPERTY.
18:29:35 YOU HEARD FROM SOMEONE PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THE ELEVATION
18:29:38 FROM THE ROAD, WE ARE ABOUT 18 INCHES LOWER THAN THAT
18:29:39 PROPERTY.
18:29:42 YOU HAVE SOME PICTURES ON FILE THAT SHOW MINE.
18:29:46 PICTURES THAT HAVE NUMBERS 12, 14 AND 16.
18:29:49 WE ALREADY TAKE TOMORROW OF THE STORMWATER THAT FLOWS
18:29:52 600 FEET DOWN THAT PROPERTY FROM THE STREET.
18:29:54 IT SCARES ME TO THINK HOW MUCH MORE WATER WILL BE
18:29:57 DIVERTED ON TO OUR PROPERTY IF THIS PROJECT IS
18:29:58 APPROVED.
18:30:02 THE SUBJECT LOT AND OTHERS ARE ESSENTIAL PARTS OF OUR
18:30:05 ECOSYSTEM AND STORMWATER RUNOFF.
18:30:07 THEY CLEANSE THE WATER ONCE IT MAKES IT TO THE RIVER
18:30:09 AND IMPROVE THE.
18:30:13 THESE ECO SYSTEMS SHOULD BE PRESERVED NOT DESTROYED.
18:30:16 MY NEIGHBORS AND I COME HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE
18:30:18 WHO LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO DESTROY IT.
18:30:21 ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS SAID IN THE STATEMENT, YOU DON'T
18:30:23 KNOW WHAT YOU GOT UNTIL IT IS GONE.
18:30:26 DENY THIS REZONING APPLICATION AND THANK YOU COUNCILMAN
18:30:29 DINGFELDER FOR ASKING YOUR MOST POINTED QUESTIONS TO
18:30:35 WHAT HAS BEEN SAID TONIGHT AND I THINK THAT IS IT.
18:30:36 I AM NERVOUS.
18:30:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
18:30:39 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:30:54 >> THANK YOU.
18:30:56 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT
18:30:57 COORDINATION.
18:31:02 NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
18:31:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY DO WE HAVE.
18:31:06 >>CLERK: THREE.
18:31:08 ONE SHOWED UP IN PERSON AND TWO ONLINE.
18:31:12 I WANT TO STATE THAT THIS PROPERTY DID PROVIDE PROPER
18:31:15 NOTICE AND DOCUMENTS ARE ON FILE WITH THE CITY CLERK'S
18:31:16 OFFICE.
18:31:19 ALSO THIS CASE WAS CONTINUED FROM JANUARY 20, 2022 AND
18:31:24 COUNCIL WAIVED THE 180-DAY RULES.
18:31:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
18:31:28 >>CLERK: YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN
18:31:30 IN.
18:31:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SWEAR THE TWO GENTLEMEN IN.
18:31:35 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE
18:31:42 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
18:31:43 >> I DO.
18:31:44 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
18:31:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL START WITH BRENT.
18:31:53 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME.
18:31:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
18:31:57 >> AWESOME.
18:31:59 BRENT HENSEY.
18:32:03 093 WEST HENRY AVENUE WITHIN 250 FEET OF THIS PROPERTY.
18:32:08 ON SEPTEMBER 27, 2021, AROUND 8 P.M., I PERSONAL
18:32:12 PERSONALLY WITNESSED A GENTLEMAN PUT A PUBLIC NOTICE
18:32:13 SIGN IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
18:32:15 TAKE A PICTURE OF IT.
18:32:17 QUICKLY TAKE THE SIGN DOWN AND GO INTO HIS TRUCK AND
18:32:18 LEAVE.
18:32:23 SO TO SAY THAT SHADY IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
18:32:27 REGARDLESS OF THAT, I REJECT TO THE REZONING JUST ON
18:32:29 THE GROUNDS THAT THIS IS HORRIBLE FOR COMMUNITY.
18:32:31 I LIVE HERE FOR A REASON.
18:32:34 AND IF THIS GOES THROUGH, ILLINOIS LEAVE.
18:32:36 THAT IS REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
18:32:38 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
18:32:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SIR, DID YOU TAKE A PICTURE OF THE
18:32:45 GENTLEMAN OR TRUCK OR VEHICLE?
18:32:47 I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.
18:32:50 >> I DID NOT TAKE A PICTURE OF THE GENTLEMAN AS HE WAS
18:32:53 TAKING PICTURE OF THE SIGN AND QUICKLY REMOVING IT.
18:32:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:32:57 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR.
18:32:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:33:02 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO FOLLOW UP, IF I MAY.
18:33:05 JUST BECAUSE MR. BRENT -- WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS PRETTY
18:33:08 DARN SERIOUS AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
18:33:12 JUST -- YOU KNOW THIS, BUT YOU ARE UNDER OATH, CORRECT?
18:33:13 AND YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE UNDER OATH.
18:33:15 >> I RAISED MY HAND.
18:33:16 I SAW WHAT I SAW.
18:33:17 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
18:33:20 AND, AGAIN, I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT.
18:33:22 AND YOU ARE TELLING THE TRUTH, ETC., ETC.
18:33:24 BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD.
18:33:28 BECAUSE THAT IS A PRETTY SERIOUS ALLEGATION THERE.
18:33:29 THANK YOU, SIR.
18:33:30 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
18:33:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
18:33:36 MISS WELLS.
18:33:41 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I APOLOGIZE
18:33:46 FOR JUMPING IN AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
18:33:47 I HAVE GONE GOING THROUGH THE RECORDS WHEN THIS
18:33:51 APPLICATION WAS FIRST SCHEDULED FOR A HEARING BACK IN
18:33:53 OCTOBER AND AT THAT TIME NOTICE -- THE CITY CLERK
18:33:57 RECEIVED AN AFFIDAVIT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE NOTICE
18:33:59 REQUIREMENT SHOWING THAT NOTICE WENT OUT ON SEPTEMBER
18:34:00 21.
18:34:06 WHAT I AM HAVING A HARD TIME KIND OF LINING UP RIGHT
18:34:09 NOW IS THE FACT THAT WHEN THIS WAS SCHEDULED ON OCTOBER
18:34:13 28, MY RECORDS SHOW -- AND I NEED THE CLERK TO CON FIRM
18:34:16 IN FOR THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THAT NIGHT.
18:34:20 I HAVE A NOTATION IN MY FILE THAT THIS WAS MISNOTICED
18:34:22 FOR THE OCTOBER 28 HEARING.
18:34:25 AND IT WAS THEN RESCHEDULED IN JANUARY.
18:34:31 WHAT I DO NOT KNOW IS IF MY NOTES ARE ACCURATE AND THIS
18:34:35 -- AND THE RECORD SHOW THEY MISNOTICED FOR OCTOBER,
18:34:38 THEN THE NOTICE THAT WENT OUT IN SEPTEMBER WOULD NOT BE
18:34:40 RELEVANT FOR PURPOSES OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.
18:34:44 AND I NEED TO KNOW IF THE CLERK'S OFFICE RECEIVED AN
18:34:46 AFFIDAVIT OF NOTICE FROM THE APPLICANT WHEN THIS WOULD
18:34:50 HAVE BEEN RESCHEDULED IN JANUARY.
18:34:54 SO I -- I HATE TO INTERRUPT, BUT I -- I DON'T HAVE
18:34:57 COMPLETE RECORDS SINCE THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE FILED WITH
18:34:57 THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
18:35:01 AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE ISSUE OF NOTICE BECAUSE
18:35:04 WE HAVE QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS RAISING
18:35:05 THAT ISSUE.
18:35:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CLERK.
18:35:10 >>CLERK: SEEMS LIKE IN OCTOBER, YES, IT WAS MISNOTICED
18:35:13 AND ENTERED AGAIN INTO THE SYSTEM DECEMBER 13 BY ANNIE
18:35:14 BARNES.
18:35:18 MAYBE ANNIE BARNES CAN COMMENT.
18:35:21 MAYBE SHE CAN RESPOND TO THAT.
18:35:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS BARNES.
18:35:26 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT
18:35:26 COORDINATION.
18:35:29 I AM SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR THE TAIL END.
18:35:32 I WOULDN'T CONFIRM NOTICE FOR JANUARY.
18:35:33 THAT WOULD BE THE CLERK.
18:35:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM.
18:35:37 >>CLERK: WE DID RECEIVE THE NOTICE FOR THE
18:35:38 JANUARY HEARING.
18:35:42 BUT IN OCTOBER, IT WAS A MISNOTICE.
18:35:46 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: OKAY.
18:35:49 I APPRECIATE IT CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THAT WAS BEING
18:35:54 ASKED EARLIER BY E-MAILS IF THERE WAS A MISNOTICED AND
18:35:57 THE ONLY DOCUMENTS I HAD AVAILABLE WERE THE ONES FILED
18:35:59 IN SEPTEMBER.
18:36:03 SO ELAINE JUST SENT ME THE AFFIDAVIT OF NOTICE THAT WAS
18:36:07 SUBSEQUENTLY FILED WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE IN JANUARY
18:36:13 SHOWING THAT NOTICE WENT OUT ON DECEMBER 21 OF 2021 FOR
18:36:17 THE HEARING THAT WAS SCHEDULED ON JANUARY 20.
18:36:23 AND INCLUDED WITH THAT AFFIDAVIT IS A CERTIFICATE OF
18:36:26 MAILING THAT SHOW THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE MAILED
18:36:26 NOTICE.
18:36:29 I CAN'T CONFIRM THAT THEY RECEIVED IT, BUT THEY WERE
18:36:30 MAILED NOTICES.
18:36:37 AND THAT INCLUDES SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT
18:36:41 SPOKE POINT TAMPA ROGER FIELD MENTIONED HE OWNS FOUR
18:36:42 PARCELS.
18:36:44 ALL FOUR OF THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN THE CERTIFICATE OF
18:36:45 MAILING.
18:36:47 I ALSO SHOW ROBERT HARRISON.
18:36:50 I BELIEVE HE SPOKE THIS EVENING.
18:36:59 WE ALSO -- MICHAEL AND CINDY HICKEY WERE INCLUDED IN
18:37:00 THE CERTIFICATE OF MAILING.
18:37:04 EVIDENTLY THEY HAVE TWO PARCELS OF PROPERTY MAYBE -- OR
18:37:05 IT WAS DUPLICATED.
18:37:07 AND KAREN GRAHAM ALSO.
18:37:10 SO BASED ON THE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED WITH THE
18:37:15 CLERK'S OFFICE, WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT NOTICE
18:37:19 WAS PROPERLY COMPLETED FOR THE JANUARY HEARING WHICH
18:37:22 WAS THEN CONTINUED TO THIS EVENING.
18:37:24 AND THEY WERE NOT REQUIRED TO RENOTICE.
18:37:27 SO I APOLOGIZE FOR TAKING UP YOUR TIME, BUT I THINK IT
18:37:30 IS IMPORTANT THAT THE RECORD BE CLEAR SINCE THAT ISSUE
18:37:32 CAME UP A FEW TIMES.
18:37:33 THANK YOU.
18:37:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON AND MR. DINGFELDER.
18:37:37 >>BILL CARLSON: I APPRECIATE YOU GOING THROUGH THAT
18:37:41 AND NECESSARY FOR THE RECORD ON SIGNS SO THAT -- IF I
18:37:44 HEARD THE ALLEGATION CORRECT, A SIGN WAS PUT DOWN AND
18:37:45 TAKEN OUT.
18:37:48 DO WE -- DO THE CITY HAVE A PROCESS WHERE WE CHECK
18:37:51 MULTIPLE DATES OR JUST ACCEPT A PICTURE AND NOT VERIFY
18:37:56 THAT THE SIGN STAYS UP FOR THE TIME REQUIRED.
18:37:59 >>CATE WELLS: THE CODE DOESN'T REQUIRE FOR THE SIGN TO
18:38:02 BE MAINTAINED THE ENTIRE PERIOD OF TIME FROM THE DATE
18:38:03 OF POSTING.
18:38:06 AND WHAT IS REQUIRED BY CODE IS THAT THE SIGN --
18:38:09 PICTURES OF THE SIGN BE TAKEN BOTH FAR AWAY SO YOU KNOW
18:38:12 IT IS ON THE PARCEL OF PROPERTY THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF
18:38:15 THE REZONING AND CLOSE-UP SO YOU CAN READ WHAT IS
18:38:17 WRITTEN ON THE SIGN.
18:38:26 BECAUSE THE AFFIDAVIT OF COMPLIANCE UNDER OATH YOU HAVE
18:38:29 TO TAKE IT AT THEIR WORD.
18:38:32 A SIGN MAY HAVE BEEN POSTED ON THE DAY IT WAS REQUIRED
18:38:35 TO AND WASN'T THERE AFTER MAINTAINED, OUR GOAD DOESN'T
18:38:42 ADDRESS THAT AND IT DOES COME UP IN PREVIOUS SETTINGS
18:38:46 AND THE CHALLENGE WOULD BE HOW DOES ONE ENSURE THAT THE
18:38:50 SIGN IS MAINTAINED FOR THE ENTER PERIOD OF TIME IN
18:38:50 ADVANCE OF THE HEARING.
18:38:54 NOT THE ANSWER THAT YOU WANT, BUT THE CODE JUST
18:38:59 REQUIRES THAT THE SIGN BE POSTED A CERTAIN PERIOD OF
18:39:01 TIME IN ADVANCE OF THE HEARING.
18:39:04 AND THEN EVIDENCE OF THAT IS PROVIDED TO US BY
18:39:08 PHOTOGRAPHS AND THEN THE AFFIDAVIT.
18:39:09 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
18:39:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:39:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS GOING TO ASK BRENT A
18:39:16 QUESTION.
18:39:19 IS HE GONE NOW?
18:39:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU STILL HAVE HIM, MADAM CLERK?
18:39:24 >> I'M HERE.
18:39:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BRENT, EXCUSE ME FOR NOT
18:39:29 REMEMBERING, APPROXIMATELY WHAT MONTH DID YOU SEE THIS
18:39:31 PERSON PUT THE SIGN OUTS AND REMOVE IT.
18:39:35 WAS IT BACK IN THE FALL OR WAS IT IN THE DECEMBER,
18:39:38 JANUARY AREA?
18:39:40 >> SEPTEMBER 22.
18:39:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SORRY?
18:39:44 >> SEPTEMBER 27.
18:39:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
18:39:48 ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR.
18:39:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
18:39:55 WE WILL GO TO DANIEL HARRISON.
18:39:56 >> YES.
18:40:01 I AM DANIEL HARRISON, AND I LIVE AT 709 WEST HENRY, WHICH IS
18:40:14 SIX PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, AND I HAVE BEEN THERE 36 YEARS.
18:40:18 I GREW UP AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT 808 WEST HENRY
18:40:21 BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE MY UNCLE LIVED.
18:40:25 I WANT TO OPPOSE THIS THING BECAUSE THIS IS NOT
18:40:27 CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IN THE WORLD HAS BEEN THERE FOR
18:40:33 ALL THESE YEARS AN AS THE PEOPLE SPOKE, THIS IS NOT
18:40:34 WHAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS ABOUT.
18:40:38 AND I WOULD REALLY REQUEST THAT YOU ALL DENY THIS
18:40:41 REQUEST SO THAT WE DON'T SET A PRECEDENT, BECAUSE ONCE
18:40:44 THIS HAPPENS ONCE, THEN BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, RIGHT
18:40:45 ON THE LINE.
18:40:48 EVERYBODY CAN JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON.
18:40:50 YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE GETTING OLDER AND RETIRE AND
18:40:52 EVERYTHING, BUT WE WANT TO PRESERVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD
18:40:55 THE WAY IT IS FOR THE YEARS TO COME.
18:40:59 THE AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ADDED ON HENRY STREET
18:41:01 RIGHT NOW WE ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE PARKING
18:41:03 ON THE STREET, ON HENRY STREET.
18:41:08 AND YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE HENRY OLA PARK AND INCREASING
18:41:10 THAT TRAFFIC FLOW PAST HENRY.
18:41:13 I THINK ONE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED THAT THE PARK DURING
18:41:17 EVENTS IS LINED UP WITH CARS ALL THE WAY DOWN HENRY
18:41:17 STREET.
18:41:19 AND HE IS NOT EXAGGERATING.
18:41:24 HE IS NOT EXAGGERATING NOT ONE BIT AND A LOT OF KIDS
18:41:25 OUT THERE.
18:41:27 AND ADDING MORE DENSITY TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:41:29 THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT DESIGNED FOR IT.
18:41:31 IT NEVER WAS AND NEVER SHOULD BE.
18:41:34 I WOULD STRONGLY URGE TO YOU DENY THIS REQUEST.
18:41:37 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
18:41:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:41:40 IS THAT IS ALL WE HAVE FOR THE SPEAKERS.
18:41:45 WE WILL GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT FOR REBUTTAL.
18:41:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF STAFF.
18:41:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GO AHEAD, MR. DINGFELDER.
18:41:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND, SIR.
18:41:56 I HAD A QUESTION OF STAFF.
18:41:59 ANNIE.
18:42:01 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT
18:42:01 COORDINATION.
18:42:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MA'AM.
18:42:06 THERE WAS AN INDICATION THAT THE -- AND MAYBE YOU SAID
18:42:09 THIS IN YOUR OPENING COMMENTS THAT THE CURRENT ZONING
18:42:16 WOULD ALLOW FOR TWO -- FOR TWO HOMES AS A MATTER OF
18:42:20 RIGHT BASED UPON WHAT -- ON THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ZONING
18:42:22 THAT IS ON PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
18:42:25 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
18:42:25 COORDINATION.
18:42:29 AN EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT BACK IN 2006.
18:42:35 AND THAT WAS Z0676.
18:42:39 AND THE ASSOCIATED ORDINANCE 2006-198.
18:42:43 IN THAT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, THERE WERE TWO -- TWO
18:42:47 HOMES AND TWO LOTS ON THE WHOLE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
18:42:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SEE.
18:42:51 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: IT HAS BEEN A WHILE.
18:42:54 I AM NOT SURE IF A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE WILL BE NEEDED IF
18:42:58 THEY TRY TO BUILD IT TO THIS DATE, BUT THE PLANNED
18:43:01 DEVELOPMENT WAS FOR TWO AS IT IS CURRENTLY NOW.
18:43:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FROM THE CITY -- FROM THE CITY'S
18:43:06 PERSPECTIVE, IF THEY CAME IN WITH BUILDING PLANS FOR
18:43:10 TWO HOMES, THEY GOT THE ZONING TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
18:43:15 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: THAT'S CORRECT, UNDER THAT PLANNED
18:43:16 DEVELOPMENT.
18:43:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: REBUTTAL WITH APPLICANT NOW.
18:43:21 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: I HAVE SOMEONE HERE -- THE LAST --
18:43:22 >> I'M HERE.
18:43:25 I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THEY WOULDN'T STAND BEHIND ME
18:43:26 LIKE THAT.
18:43:28 >> SHE HAS ALREADY SPOKEN ALREADY.
18:43:29 >> I HAVE TO CLEAR UP.
18:43:31 IF YOU ASKED ME ABOUT THE NOTICE, I COULD HAVE CLEARED
18:43:32 IT UP.
18:43:34 NO ONE HERE TONIGHT --
18:43:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MA'AM, YOU CANNOT DO THAT NOW.
18:43:37 I AM SORRY.
18:43:38 I AM SORRY.
18:43:41 >> NO ONE HERE TONIGHT IS DISPUTING --
18:43:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MA'AM, I CAN'T HEAR YOUR TESTIMONY.
18:43:44 I AM SORRY.
18:43:46 NOW WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE APPLICANT.
18:43:49 >> WE ARE ONLY TALKING OF THE NOTICE ISSUE AND THE
18:43:50 DECEITFULNESS --
18:43:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY.
18:43:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOLD ON, MA'AM.
18:43:55 HOLD ON.
18:43:55 HOLD ON.
18:43:58 WE ARE ASKING OUR ATTORNEY HIS OPINION.
18:44:01 CAN WE WAIVE OUR RULES, MR. SHELBY?
18:44:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN WAIVE YOUR RULES, COUNCIL.
18:44:06 YOU CERTAINLY CAN.
18:44:09 BUT THE QUESTION IS -- THE QUESTION IS, IS IT
18:44:12 APPROPRIATE NOW AT THIS POINT TO ADDRESS A NOTICE
18:44:14 ISSUE?
18:44:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MA'AM, MA'AM, MA'AM -- MA'AM, PLEASE,
18:44:20 I NEED TO GET AN OPINION FROM OUR LEGAL STAFF, THANK
18:44:20 YOU.
18:44:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW HER PURPOSE IN COUPLING
18:44:23 BACK.
18:44:26 NORMALLY, COUNCIL IF YOU WANT TO -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT
18:44:29 THAT WILL DO FOR THE RECORD AND FRANKLY AT THIS POINT
18:44:32 IN TIME WE ARE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS AND I DON'T QUITE
18:44:35 KNOW WHAT HER TESTIMONY THAT SHE IS GOING TO PROFFER
18:44:39 AND I SEE MR. MIRANDA BEING RECOGNIZED.
18:44:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A CLEAR RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS
18:44:44 AND I AM NOT AGAINST ANYONE SPEAKING BUT I WOULD LIKE
18:44:47 TO HAVE A CLEAR RECORD SO NO ONE CAN SAY THAT COUNCIL
18:44:50 ERRORED IN MAKING THE DECISION.
18:44:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHICH WAY WOULD YOU BE LEANING.
18:44:56 MIRANDA MIR I AM NOT LEANING ANY WAY.
18:44:59 THIS YOUNG LADY SPOKE AND WE HEARD HER, AND THE
18:45:02 CHAIRMAN GAVE HER AN EXTRA 30 SECONDS AND A MINUTE AND
18:45:05 I APPRECIATE THAT AND NOT THAT I AM FOR OR AGAINST YOU
18:45:07 SPEAKING BUT I NEED A CLEAR RECORD IN CASE THIS GOES TO
18:45:08 THE COURT OF LAW.
18:45:12 I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO HAMPER ANYTHING.
18:45:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A FULL SIX MINUTES EVEN THOUGH --
18:45:18 BECAUSE SHE LIVED LESS THAN 250 -- I GAVE HER EXTRA
18:45:18 TIME.
18:45:19 >> RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
18:45:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GAVE YOU SIX MINUTES.
18:45:24 RULES AND PROCEDURES.
18:45:25 I CANNOT LET YOU SPEAK.
18:45:26 MOVE ON.
18:45:28 THANK YOU FOR THIS EVENING AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE
18:45:31 APPLICANT FOR REBUTTAL.
18:45:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, COUNCIL.
18:45:34 PLEASE MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS OF STAFF
18:45:37 BEFORE THE REBUTTAL, IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.
18:45:38 UNLESS IT COMES UP AS A RESULT.
18:45:39 THANK YOU.
18:45:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT.
18:45:47 BEFORE YOU GO INTO YOUR REBUTTAL.
18:45:52 IS -- IS -- ARE YOU FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH THE
18:45:56 SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ALONG THE RIVER THERE, SIR?
18:45:57 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
18:45:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
18:46:01 I DIDN'T KNOW IF EITHER OF THESE GENTLEMEN -- WHAT
18:46:04 THEIR ROLE IS AND IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK, BUT IS --
18:46:06 THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TESTIMONY THAT THERE IS NO
18:46:10 PRECEDENT FOR FOUR HOMES.
18:46:14 A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID THE ONLY PRECEDENT IS FOR ONE
18:46:15 HOME OR TWO HOMES.
18:46:18 AND THAT THERE IS NO PRECEDENT FOR FOUR HOMES.
18:46:23 SO I GUESS I AM CONFUSED IN REGARD TO THE FACT THAT --
18:46:26 YOU ALREADY HAVE -- WHOEVER OWNS THIS PROPERTY ALREADY
18:46:29 HAS A PD ON THERE FOR TWO HOMES.
18:46:32 I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NECESSITY IS AND THE NEED IS TO
18:46:35 BUILD FOUR, WHICH DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE ANY PRECEDENT
18:46:37 WHATSOEVER.
18:46:49 >> AGAIN, JD ALSABBAGH.
18:46:52 IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECTOR, THIS LOT IS THE LONGEST
18:46:53 LOT.
18:46:56 THREE LOTS ON THE WEST OF US AND TWO LOTS ON THE EAST
18:46:56 OF US.
18:47:01 SO NOW ONE THING I WANT TO BRING ALSO, THERE IS ROAD ON
18:47:05 THE EAST SIDE OF US WHERE WE BORDER OUR PROPOSED HOME
18:47:09 AND ROAD ALSO ON THE -- ON THE WEST SIDE OF WHERE WE
18:47:12 PROPOSE THE HOME.
18:47:15 SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE THE PICTURE FOR IT IN A
18:47:16 SECOND.
18:47:20 SO NOW THE -- THERE IS NO GRAND TREE AS YOU SEE.
18:47:22 NO --
18:47:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID YOU WANT TOP ANSWER MY QUESTION
18:47:28 WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT IS THE NECESSITY?
18:47:32 WHAT IS THE NEED FROM GOING FROM THE EXISTING PD TO
18:47:36 THIS PROPOSED PD, WHICH DOUBLES THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND
18:47:41 NO PRECEDENT FOR IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:47:43 >> RESPECTED -- I WILL LET THE OWNERS SPEAK ON THAT.
18:47:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
18:47:49 >> MY NAME IS JEFF SHURELETT.
18:47:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY IS RECOGNIZED.
18:47:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT BOTH
18:47:59 GENTLEMEN WERE SWORN IN WHO ARE PREPARED TO SPEAK.
18:48:03 CAN YOU TELL US IF YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN.
18:48:06 >> JEFF SHIRTLET.
18:48:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TAKE IT BACK TO THE PICTURE OF THE
18:48:09 GENTLEMEN.
18:48:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOWNSTAIRS ON MONITOR.
18:48:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GO AHEAD.
18:48:15 >> MR. DINGFELDER, LONG TIME NO SEE.
18:48:16 I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN A WHILE.
18:48:19 I HEARD JUST LIKE YOU DID A LOT OF NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE
18:48:23 BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS AND THEY ARE UPSET THAT SOMEONE
18:48:24 NEW IS COMING IN TO DEVELOP THE LAND.
18:48:27 I AM USING THIS LAND PERSONALLY TO BUILD MYSELF A
18:48:30 HOUSE, MY MOTHER A HOUSE AND MY SISTER A HOUSE.
18:48:32 WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.
18:48:34 THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE A PROPERTY, LOVE
18:48:36 AND USE THE PROPERTY FOR 30 YEARS.
18:48:39 SINCE THAT TIME, THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THE CITY HAS
18:48:42 COME UP WITH A HIGHER DENSITY COMP PLAN WHERE YOU ARE
18:48:44 ALLOWED TEN PER ACRE.
18:48:46 WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
18:48:48 WE FELL IN LOVE WITH IT.
18:48:51 WE ARE GOING -- THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WATER RUNOFF
18:48:51 HERE.
18:48:51 OKAY.
18:48:54 WE ARE PUTTING IN -- WE HAVE A SITE PLAN RIGHT HERE.
18:48:59 WE HAVE A -- A -- AN UNDERGROUND SYSTEM TO HELP AND
18:49:01 ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS.
18:49:04 THIS WILL BE A BIG INVESTMENT FOR ME AND MY FAMILY.
18:49:06 WE WILL LIVE THERE FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS OR HOWEVER
18:49:09 LONGER WITH ON THIS PLANET.
18:49:13 AS FAR AS THE TREES, NONE OF THEM ARE GRANDFATHERS.
18:49:14 48 TREES.
18:49:16 ALL SMALLER TREES COMING DOWN.
18:49:19 THE INVESTMENT WE ARE GOING TO PUT IN HERE WILL RAISE
18:49:21 EVERYBODY VALUATIONS FOR THEIR OWN PROPERTIES.
18:49:22 RAISE TAX FOR THE CITY.
18:49:25 YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO APPROVE THIS
18:49:26 PROPERTY.
18:49:28 THIS IS SOMETHING WITHIN THE PLAN AND WITHIN -- THE
18:49:31 REASON NONE OF THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE, YOU HEARD IT.
18:49:33 THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS.
18:49:35 ONE WOMAN OWNED IT FOR SEVEN YEARS.
18:49:37 THE WOMAN WHO WAS MOST VOCAL JUST HERE AND TRIED TO
18:49:42 HAVE A SECOND GO AT IT, SHE HAS HER PARCEL SUBDIVIDED
18:49:43 INTO THREE LOTS.
18:49:45 I AM ASKING FOR FOUR.
18:49:46 IS IT THAT MUCH MORE FOUR TO THREE.
18:49:50 I DON'T THINK SO.
18:49:53 TWO OF THE -- TWO OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY
18:49:55 NEIGHBORS ON EACH SIDE.
18:49:57 THEY PROBABLY HAVE BEEN USING MY PROPERTY TO WALK THEIR
18:49:59 DOGS FOR 30 YEARS AND NOW THEY ARE UPSET THAT SOMEBODY
18:50:01 WILL COME IN AND BUILD SOME HOUSES.
18:50:04 MY MOTHER AND MY SISTER AND ME WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF
18:50:08 YOU CAN APPROVE US FOR WHAT WE -- WHAT WE SEE IS OUR --
18:50:11 WE HAVE BEEN WAITING OUR WHOLE LIVES TO HAVE A PIECE OF
18:50:11 PROPERTY.
18:50:13 THAT IS THE REASON, MR. DINGFELDER.
18:50:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION.
18:50:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN.
18:50:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RECOGNIZED, SIR.
18:50:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY ATTORNEY.
18:50:28 WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IF MISS WELLS WANT TO ADD
18:50:31 ANYTHING CERTAINLY, BUT JUST A REMINDER, WITHIN YOUR
18:50:34 STAFF REPORT IS THE CRITERIA UPON WHICH YOU MUST BASE
18:50:37 YOUR DECISIONS, NOT WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY, HOW LONG
18:50:40 THEY ARE GOING TO OWN THE PROPERTY, WHAT THE REASON IS.
18:50:43 IT IS -- IT IS ACTUALLY THE CRITERIA.
18:50:47 AND I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO LISTEN TO THE FACTS OR
18:50:50 REFER TO FACTS AS YOU HEARD THEM AND APPLY THEM
18:50:54 SPECIFICALLY TO THE CRY CRITERIA ON THE STAFF REPORT
18:50:57 UPON WHICH YOU MUST BASE YOUR DECISION ON COMPETENT,
18:50:58 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCES.
18:50:59 THANK YOU.
18:51:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:51:03 YOU CAN CONTINUE.
18:51:07 >> JD ALSABBAGH, ENGINEER.
18:51:13 WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY WAIVER FOR THE TREES.
18:51:17 WE ARE PERVIOUS PAVEMENT ACROSS THE PROPERTY.
18:51:22 PERVIOUS PAVEMENT FOR NATURAL RESOURCES.
18:51:27 AS YOU SEE ALL THE EXISTING TREES, WE PRESERVE IT.
18:51:32 WE ALSO PROPOSE FOUNDATION ACROSS -- YOU SEE WE HAVE IT
18:51:33 IN THE NODE.
18:51:34 ADJACENT TO ANY TREES.
18:51:36 AND THAT IS WHAT WE WILL APPLY.
18:51:40 WE ARE PROPOSING UNDERGROUND SYSTEM AS JEFF INDICATED
18:51:44 UNDERGROUND STORAGE WHICH IS IN THE SECOND SHEET TO
18:51:49 ALLEVIATE.
18:52:03 AND JUST -- I WANT TO BRING SOMETHING -- AS YOU SEE
18:52:05 HERE, THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO WEST AND ITS ROAD
18:52:13 ADJACENT TO OUR PROPERTY.
18:52:22 THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO EAST AND THE ENTRANCE.
18:52:26 AND ALSO ROAD CONTINUES.
18:52:31 SO THE ROAD FROM BOTH SIDE BORDER OUR PROPERTY.
18:52:41 THE HOUSE SIDE OR TO THE DRIVEWAY.
18:52:45 SO OVERALL, WE SUGGESTED WE ARE CREATING A DESIGN WHICH
18:52:49 GETS SUPPORT FROM NATURAL RESOURCE, BY THE STORMWATER,
18:52:53 BY EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THIS RECORD REGARD.
18:52:56 AND OF COURSE WE TAKE CARE OF THE URBAN DESIGN AND
18:52:58 REALLY CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE DESIGNS REQUESTED AND
18:53:02 WITHIN THE DENSITY ALLOWED WHICH IS FOUR PER ACRE AND
18:53:03 ALLOWED TEN PER ACRE.
18:53:04 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:53:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:53:12 >> IF I CAN MAKE A LAST STATEMENT ON THE DUE PROCESS.
18:53:14 YOU KNOW THEY ARE SAYING THEY DIDN'T GET NOTICED AND
18:53:17 SOMEBODY -- HE SAW SOMEBODY TAKE A SIGN BUT HE DIDN'T
18:53:18 TAKE A PICTURE.
18:53:23 I WANT TO SAYS THERE OBVIOUSLY SOME ULTERIOR MOTIVES.
18:53:26 THESE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THE PROPERTY DEVELOPED.
18:53:27 THE SIGNS WERE POSTED.
18:53:29 WE DID EVERYTHING BY THE BOOKS.
18:53:30 WE ARE HERE IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY.
18:53:32 I THINK MORE OF A CASE THAT SOMEBODY WENT AND PULLED
18:53:33 THE SIGN DOWN.
18:53:36 ONE PERSON SAID IF YOU -- IF YOU APPROVE THIS, HE IS
18:53:37 GOING TO MOVE.
18:53:41 WHAT IS EASIER MOVING OR JUST GOING AND TAKING A SIGN
18:53:43 UP AND WALKING AWAY WITH IT.
18:53:47 THESE -- I HEARD FROM THE STAFF -- FROM BOTH STAFF
18:53:50 MEMBERS THINK THAT MET, AND THEY SAID THE NEIGHBORHOOD
18:53:53 HAS BEEN CALLING WEEKLY FOR THE LAST FOUR MONTHS.
18:53:58 THESE PEOPLE WERE WELL AWARE -- THEY ARE DECEIVING.YOU.
18:54:01 THEY ARE SAYING -- WHAT AM I DECEIVING.
18:54:04 I BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND I AM GOING TO BE THEIR
18:54:06 NEIGHBOR SOON.
18:54:07 HOPEFULLY.
18:54:11 NOBODY TOOK UP A SIGN AND THAT IS BS.
18:54:13 THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
18:54:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:54:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
18:54:19 THE ONE THING BAD ABOUT THIS PROCESS, OKAY.
18:54:24 AND I NEVER LIKED IT FOR THE 11 YEARS I SERVED THIS
18:54:25 CITY.
18:54:28 AND IN ADDITION TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD, BUT ONE
18:54:31 THING I DON'T LIKE IS OFTEN IT IS YES, SIR OR NO.
18:54:34 AND BLACK OR WHITE.
18:54:36 AND SOME PEOPLE WALK AWAY HAPPY.
18:54:37 AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T.
18:54:40 WHAT I THINK I AM HEARING TONIGHT IS A LACK OF
18:54:45 COMMUNICATION AND I AM NOT POINTING ANY FINGERS IN
18:54:47 EITHER DIRECTION, BUT A LACK OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN
18:54:51 YOU THREE AND THOSE OTHER TEN PEOPLE WHO WE HEARD FROM
18:54:53 EARLIER.
18:54:57 SO WHAT COUNCIL LIKES TO DO SOMETIMES TO FACILITATE
18:55:02 BETTER COMMUNICATION AND MAYBE SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE
18:55:10 IS TO ENCOURAGE AN APPLICANT TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE
18:55:12 AND GO MEET WITH THOSE FOLKS.
18:55:14 BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE HAS BEEN A WHOLE
18:55:18 LOT OF MEETING GOING ON.
18:55:22 AND FRANKLY, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, BUT YOU ARE
18:55:24 FREE TO DO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DO.
18:55:27 AND IF YOU WANT A VOTE TONIGHT, THAT -- IT IS YOUR
18:55:29 LEGAL RIGHT TO HAVE ONE.
18:55:31 >> I WOULD LIKE -- I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT.
18:55:33 I ACTUALLY HAVE TRIED TO SPEAK TO THE NEIGHBORS.
18:55:35 THEY ARE UNRESPONSIVE.
18:55:36 THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM ME.
18:55:39 THE ONE NEIGHBOR THAT CAME UP AND SAID SPECIFICALLY HE
18:55:42 HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANYBODY OR HE SPOKE TO -- HERE IS MY
18:55:46 GENERAL CONTRACT FROM SABLE THAT HE LIED TO HIM AND
18:55:46 UNFORTUNATE.
18:55:47 I WASN'T THERE.
18:55:50 BUT IF YOU CAN SEE., THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR JUST TO THE
18:55:51 EAST OF ME.
18:55:54 THERE IS NO -- NOTHING HERE WORTH DYING FOR.
18:55:55 BEWARE OF DOG.
18:55:57 THIS GUY -- HE HAS CAMERAS SET UP HERE.
18:56:00 YOU CAN'T EVEN APPROACH THIS GUY.
18:56:02 HE DOESN'T RETURN PHONE CALLS.
18:56:03 THEY DON'T WANT THE PROPERTY DEVELOPED.
18:56:06 THEY WANT THE PROPERTY TO STAY EXACTLY HOW IT HAS BEEN
18:56:09 FOR 30 YEARS LIKE THEY HAVE ALL LIVED THERE.
18:56:13 AND WHAT THEY DON'T REALIZE IS, TAMPA IS GROWING AND
18:56:16 UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS -- YOU THE REASON THIS PROPERTY --
18:56:18 THESE PROPERTIES HAVEN'T BEEN DEVELOPED MORE BECAUSE
18:56:20 THESE LANDOWNERS HAVE BEEN THERE 30 YEARS.
18:56:24 HAD THERE BEEN SELLING -- THE COMP PLAN IS TEN PER
18:56:24 ACRE.
18:56:27 I AM ASKING FOUR PER ACRE.
18:56:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
18:56:30 I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.
18:56:32 >> I UNDERSTAND, MR. DINGFELDER.
18:56:34 I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OTHER CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
18:56:36 I REALIZE YOU ARE AGAINST IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE.
18:56:38 YOU MIGHT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:56:40 MAYBE -- I DON'T KNOW.
18:56:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I LIVE 20 BLOCKS AWAY.
18:56:43 15 BLOCKS AWAY.
18:56:45 THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE.
18:56:48 I JUST TRY TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
18:56:52 AND LIKE I SAY, I AM -- I AM A TRAINED MEDIATOR AND I
18:56:54 LIKE TO TRY TO FIND COMPROMISE.
18:56:58 >> IMAGINE THE WORLD WHERE EVERY SINGLE HOMEOWNER CAN
18:57:01 RAISE AND COMPLAIN AND TAMPA -- THIS PLAT WAS DONE BACK
18:57:04 100 YEARS AGO WHEN ALL THESE PROPERTIES -- YOU KNOW
18:57:08 WHEN THIS WHOLE ROAD, IT WAS 1906.
18:57:09 A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN IN TAMPA.
18:57:12 A LOT HAPPENED IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS MUCH LESS 15
18:57:15 YEARS THE LAST TIME WE WENT TO CITY COUNCIL AND THIS
18:57:17 GOT APPROVED IN 2006.
18:57:20 IF THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, I WOULD RATHER JUST
18:57:21 KNOW NOW, YOU KNOW.
18:57:23 BUT THIS IS -- MY FAMILY LOVES THE SITE.
18:57:24 WE LOVE THE OWLS.
18:57:27 WE ARE NOT TAKING DOWN ANY GRANDFATHER TREES.
18:57:29 WE ARE GOING TO HELP WITH THE WATER PROBLEM.
18:57:31 WE ARE GOING TO IMPROVE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AND
18:57:31 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:57:36 I DON'T SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
18:57:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
18:57:39 ARE WE FINISHED, SIR.
18:57:41 >> I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
18:57:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PRETTY MUCH SAID WHAT YOU WANTED.
18:57:47 SO AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT, I MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:57:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION.
18:57:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
18:57:53 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR MAY I --
18:57:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:57:57 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE MOVE TO CLOSE JUST FOR THE
18:57:57 APPLICANT.
18:58:02 I WANT TO -- I WANT TO RE-EMPHASIZE WHAT COUNCILMAN
18:58:05 DINGFELDER SAID NOT TO PUSH A CONTINUANCE, BUT JUST TO
18:58:09 LET YOU KNOW THAT ONCE WE CLOSE, YOUR ABILITY TO WHY A
18:58:12 CONTINUANCE IS -- IS PRETTY MUCH GONE.
18:58:14 SO JUST TO MAKE THAT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD.
18:58:15 THAT'S ALL.
18:58:16 THANK YOU.
18:58:18 >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONTINUANCE IS GOING TO
18:58:19 DO FOR US.
18:58:22 I DON'T THINK I AM GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO AND KNOCK ON
18:58:26 MY NEIGHBORS' DOORS AND SAY HEY, I AM JEFF AND I WANT
18:58:28 TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY -- I DON'T THINK I AM GOING TO
18:58:28 WIN THEM OVER.
18:58:31 IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ASKING ME TO DO CONTINUE TO HAVE A
18:58:33 CONVERSATION WITH THEM IN HOPES THAT BASICALLY I CAN --
18:58:35 THEY CHANGE THEIR MIND.
18:58:37 I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN PRETTY CLEAR THEY DON'T WANT THE
18:58:39 PROPERTY DEVELOPED.
18:58:40 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
18:58:41 THANK YOU, SIR.
18:58:45 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
18:58:47 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER.
18:58:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HEARD THE APPLICANT SAY THEY DIDN'T
18:58:53 WANT TO DEVELOP -- I DIDN'T HEAR THAT FROM THE
18:58:55 TESTIMONY ON THE OTHER SIDE.
18:58:58 I THINK THEY SAID THE MASS SIZE OF WHAT WAS BEING
18:58:58 DEVELOPED.
18:59:01 I DIDN'T HEAR THEM SAY THEY DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING
18:59:02 DEVELOP ON PROPERTY.
18:59:05 I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR THAT
18:59:06 DURING THE TESTIMONY.
18:59:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
18:59:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO CLOSE.
18:59:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
18:59:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.
18:59:15 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
18:59:19 ROLL CALL BECAUSE MR. VIERA IS ON THE SCREEN.
18:59:20 ROLL CALL.
18:59:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
18:59:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
18:59:26 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
18:59:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
18:59:29 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
18:59:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
18:59:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
18:59:37 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER VOTING NO.
18:59:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALREADY, MR. VIERA, ARE YOU PREPARED
18:59:45 TO TAKE ON ITEM NUMBER 2?
18:59:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW WHAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL -- I
18:59:55 AM -- IF I READ IT, I HAVE TO COMMIT TO VOTE YES ON IT.
19:00:00 AND I AM NOT QUITE THERE YET.
19:00:03 LET ME -- LET ME PASS ON IT FOR NOW.
19:00:05 I AM NOT SAYING I AM VOTING NO.
19:00:07 I AM JUST NOT SUCH A BELIEVER TO MAKE THE MOTION AT
19:00:10 THIS TIME.
19:00:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL GO IN REVERSE ORDER.
19:00:15 MR. MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE NUMBER 2.
19:00:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL TELL YOU WHAT,
19:00:21 I WILL BE COMMITTED TO VOTE YES, BUT I AM GOING TO READ
19:00:24 IT BECAUSE I THINK THIS HAS GOT TO COME TO A CLOSURE.
19:00:27 IF I MAKE A MOTION AND IT FAILS, SOMEBODY ELSE CAN MAKE
19:00:28 A MOTION TO REVERSE IT.
19:00:31 I THINK ON BOTH SIDES AND THE SANITY OF THE
19:00:35 NEIGHBORHOOD AND SANITY OF THE APPLICANT AND DIDN'T
19:00:39 START YESTERDAY, BUT SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER,
19:00:41 DECEMBER, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.
19:00:44 9,000 KIDS WERE BORN SINCE THEN IN.
19:00:48 SO, I MEAN, IT HAS GOT TO COME TO A CLOSURE FOR BOTH
19:00:48 SIDES.
19:00:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN I THROW OUT A POINT OF ORDER
19:00:53 MR. CHAIRMAN AND MR. MIRANDA, I APOLOGIZE FOR
19:00:54 INTERRUPTING.
19:00:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO PROBLEM.
19:00:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS WEIRD THAT
19:01:02 WE ASK SOMEBODY TO READ THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THAT
19:01:06 CREATES A PRESUMPTION THAT ANY ONE OF US IS IN FAVOR OF
19:01:07 IT.
19:01:09 I THINK BETTER SUGGESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I HAVE
19:01:12 BEEN MEANING TO SAY THIS FOR A LONG TIME IS JUST TO
19:01:17 SAY, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
19:01:19 AND THIS WOULD BE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR A MOTION TO
19:01:19 DENY.
19:01:22 SO I KNOW IT IS SEMANTICS.
19:01:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I KNOW IT IS SEMANTICS BUT THE
19:01:27 RULES --
19:01:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT IS NOT A RULE BUT A PROCESS THAT
19:01:33 EVOLVED OVER THE YEARS THAT FRANKLY I THINK IS A LITTLE
19:01:33 WARPED.
19:01:34 NOT YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
19:01:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A LOT OF THINGS ARE WARPED.
19:01:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MANY CHAIRMANS HAVE DONE IT, BUT
19:01:43 THE MOST -- MATTER IS CLOSED.
19:01:44 WE HEARD ALL THE EVIDENCE.
19:01:46 I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
19:01:48 AND THAT MOTION COULD BE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
19:01:51 ANYWAY, THAT IS MY TWO CENTS.
19:01:52 CARRY ON.
19:01:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SAID I WOULD READ IT AND CLARIFY
19:01:58 AND END THIS DISCUSSION, WHETHER IT GOES OR NOT.
19:01:59 IT IS UP TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS.
19:02:04 FILE NUMBER 2, REZ 21-90.
19:02:05 A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.
19:02:08 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING AND K
19:02:11 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 810 WEST
19:02:18 HENRY AVENUE AND 810 WEST HENRY AVENUE ONE-HALF IN
19:02:22 ZONING DISTRICT PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO SH-PD,
19:02:24 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
19:02:28 DETACHED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
19:02:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
19:02:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
19:02:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO A MOTION THAT YOU HAVE
19:02:36 IN THERE.
19:02:39 YOU DO HAVE SAMPLE MOTIONS IF YOU WISH TO.
19:02:43 BECAUSE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE RECORD COMPLETE, YOU DO
19:02:48 HAVE TO STATE THE BASIS FOR THE -- THE MOTION EITHER TO
19:02:58 APPROVE OR DENY.
19:03:02 AND IF ANYBODY NEEDS ANY ASSISTANCE WITH REGARD TO
19:03:05 THAT, I BELIEVE I WILL --
19:03:07 >> CAN'T HEAR YOU, MR. SHELBY.
19:03:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE
19:03:12 SAMPLE MOTIONS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED PERHAPS ON
19:03:14 THE -- NEXT TO THE LAST PAGE.
19:03:17 I THINK IT WILL BE SUFFICIENT.
19:03:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS PREPARED TO DO THAT, SIR.
19:03:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY, MR. MIRANDA.
19:03:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST TO MAKE SURE IT IS A COMPLETE
19:03:26 RECORD AS I SAID EARLIER ON BOTH SIDES.
19:03:32 ITEM 2, REZ-21-90.
19:03:35 IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GOALS, OBJECTIVES
19:03:41 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSISTENT 5.1.1 AND HOUSING
19:03:50 POLICIES 1.3.1.3.3 AND 1.3.4 CONSISTENT TO ENSURE THAT
19:03:53 THERE IS ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING TO MEET THE NEEDS
19:03:56 OF TAMPA FUTURE POPULATION OF THE DENSITY PROPOSED OF
19:04:01 THE DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT EXCEED WHAT IS APPLICABLE OF
19:04:05 THE FUTURE LAND USE AND 9.1 CONSISTENT REGARDING
19:04:15 SECTIONS 27-136 AND SECTIONS REQUIRED 27-211, THE
19:04:17 PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE PLAN TO ENCOURAGE
19:04:21 DEVELOPMENT IN THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION, AND CHARACTER
19:04:25 OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND SUBSTANTIAL LAND
19:04:28 USE AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
19:04:30 NOW WE CAN VOTE.
19:04:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CLERK.
19:04:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
19:04:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
19:04:39 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
19:04:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
19:04:43 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
19:04:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
19:04:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
19:04:50 >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH DINGFELDER, CARLSON,
19:04:55 MANISCALCO, VIERA AND GUDES VOTING NO.
19:05:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
19:05:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN.
19:05:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
19:05:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE TO DENY REZ-21-90 FOR THE
19:05:20 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 810 AND 810 1/2 WEST HENRY AVENUE
19:05:23 DUE TO THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE A BURDEN OF PROVE OF
19:05:26 COMPREHENSIVE AT THE AND SUBSTANTIAL THAT THE
19:05:28 DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
19:05:28 AND CITY CODE.
19:05:32 AND THE APPLICANT'S FAILURE TO MEET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF
19:05:34 WITH RESPECT TO REQUESTED WAIVERS.
19:05:38 SINCE THERE WERE WAIVERS, I WOULD SAY THAT THERE IS A
19:05:43 FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH SECTION 27-1394.
19:05:49 FOR EXAMPLE, THE NEED OR DESIRE FOR WAIVERS NECESSARILY
19:05:53 PROPOSE THAT THE INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT IS NOT
19:05:56 APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE AND IS NOT COMPLY WITH THE
19:05:59 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS WE SAW IN AT LEAST ONE
19:06:01 INCONSISTENCY FROM ONE PRESENTATION.
19:06:04 THE APPLICANT DID NOT PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE THAT THE
19:06:07 PROPOSED DESIGN IS EWE MAKE ANY IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY THE
19:06:08 WAIVER.
19:06:13 THEREFORE, THAT IS MY MOTION FOR DENIAL.
19:06:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MANISCALCO, IF I CAN.
19:06:19 DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY REFERENCE TO, LET'S SAY
19:06:25 SECTION 27-136 OR -- WITH REGARD TO THE --
19:06:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ACTUALLY YES, I WOULD.
19:06:31 SECTION -- FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
19:06:37 SECTION 27-136, SPECIFICALLY PROPOSED USE DOES NOT
19:06:40 PROMOTE THE EFFICIENT AND SUSTAINABLE USE OF LAND AND
19:06:41 INFRASTRUCTURE.
19:06:42 AND I WILL LEAVE IT THERE.
19:06:46 THANK YOU.
19:06:49 AND I HAVE ALREADY READ THE BOTTOM -- SORRY WITH THE
19:06:52 WAIVERS.
19:06:54 FINALLY --
19:06:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU WANT TO MAKE REFERENCE TO ANY
19:06:57 OTHER TESTIMONY?
19:07:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FINALLY THE SITE TO THE RECORD AND
19:07:02 COMPREHENSIVE TENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT
19:07:05 DEMONSTRATES THAT MAINTAINING THE EXISTING ZONING
19:07:09 CLASSIFICATION OF PD WHICH ALLOWS FOR TWO RESIDENTIAL
19:07:14 SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS ACCOMPLISHES A LEGITIMATE
19:07:16 PURPOSE AND DEVELOPMENT BY RIGHT CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:07:18 PATTERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE HEARD THROUGH
19:07:22 PUBLIC SYSTEM, SPECIFIC PROPERTIES IN THE VICINITY THAT
19:07:27 HAVE -- THAT MATCH WITH THE DESCRIPTION I HAVE JUST
19:07:27 MENTIONED.
19:07:31 THAT'S IT.
19:07:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON SECONDED THAT.
19:07:34 ROLL CALL.
19:07:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
19:07:36 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
19:07:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
19:07:41 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
19:07:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
19:07:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
19:07:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
19:07:49 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO VOTING NO.
19:07:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
19:22:36 WE WILL HAVE A RECESS UNTIL 7:15.
19:22:41 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
19:22:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
19:22:47 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
19:22:48 GUDES ALL RIGHT.
19:22:51 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
19:22:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STAFF, WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 3.
19:23:01 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL, ANNIE BARNES.
19:23:05 ITEM NUMBER 2.
19:23:13 THE REQUEST IS SPECIAL USE 2 FOR BANK, DRIVE-IN, AND I WILL
19:23:16 TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
19:23:50 AND AFTER THEIRS, I WILL CONCLUDE MINE
19:23:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT HAPPENED?
19:24:00 HOIST, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
19:24:02 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: I WONDER IF PLANNING COMMISSION
19:24:03 STAFF CAN HEAR US.
19:24:06 THEY MAY NOT REALIZE THAT THEY ARE NEXT UP.
19:24:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS BARNES, ARE YOU THERE?
19:24:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS MALONE.
19:24:13 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: IT IS PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF WE
19:24:15 ARE WAITING FOR.
19:24:18 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
19:24:19 COORDINATION.
19:24:21 I BELIEVE THAT JENNIFER MALONE WILL BE ON THE LINE
19:24:22 MOMENTARILY.
19:24:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
19:24:27 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING
19:24:28 COMMISSION STAFF.
19:24:28 I APOLOGIZE.
19:24:35 I'M HERE TO PRESENT ON SU-2-21-07.
19:24:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID SHE COME OFF THE SCREEN, VIDEO?
19:24:43 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I AM BACK.
19:24:45 CAN YOU SEE ME.
19:24:51 >> SO THIS IS SU 2-21-07 IN THE CENTRAL PLANNING
19:24:56 DISTRICT WITHIN THE SOUTH HOWARD NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:24:58 IT IS WITH TRANSIT.
19:25:01 CLEVELAND STREET AND SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE.
19:25:04 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS HYDE PARK A
19:25:06 HALF MILE TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE SITE AND WITHIN
19:25:10 EVACUATION ZONE C.
19:25:12 AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE LOCATED ON SOUTH SIDE OF
19:25:14 WEST CLEVELAND STREET.
19:25:17 TO THE NORTH IS EXTRA SPACE STORAGE.
19:25:23 TO THE SOUTH ON THE OTHER YELLOW STAR IS THE PUBLIX.
19:25:26 THEN AREA.
19:25:30 THE ADOPTED FUTURE USE IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 THAT
19:25:33 ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF COMMERCIAL USES.
19:25:36 OTHER LAND USES IN THE AREA ARE RESIDENTIAL-35 JUST TO
19:25:39 THE WEST OF THE SITE, THE DARK BROWN COLOR AND
19:25:44 RESIDENTIAL-20, FURTHER EAST OF THE SITE, THE LIGHTER
19:25:45 BROWN COLOR.
19:25:47 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A BANK -- A BANK WITH A
19:25:48 DRIVE-THRU.
19:25:51 SO WE DID FIND THAT THEY WERE MEETING THE POLICIES
19:25:54 WITHIN THE PLAN.
19:25:58 THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN IS SUPPORTING THOSE BY ORIENTING
19:26:02 THE BUILDING TO THE FRONT -- TOWARD SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE
19:26:03 AND PLACING PARKING THE REAR.
19:26:07 WE ALSO MAN FOUND THERE WERE GOOD CONNECTIONS BETWEEN
19:26:10 THE BUILDING AND THE SIDEWALKS ADJACENT TO THE PUBLIC
19:26:11 RIGHT-OF-WAY AS WELL.
19:26:14 AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MENTION THAT THE COMMUNITY
19:26:18 MIXED USE 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION ANTICIPATE
19:26:20 COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THESE CORRIDORS.
19:26:22 SO THIS REQUEST AND THE USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:26:25 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE APPLICANT WAS ALSO MEETING
19:26:29 THOSE MIXED USE CORRIDOR POLICIES THAT THE PLAN SEEKS
19:26:32 TO ACHIEVE WITH WALKABILITY THROUGH.
19:26:34 SO I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
19:26:35 AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO ANNIE.
19:26:36 THANK YOU.
19:26:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
19:26:39 ALL RIGHT.
19:26:40 BEING NONE.
19:26:41 MISS BARNES.
19:26:45 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
19:26:45 COORDINATION.
19:26:54 CAN I PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN?
19:26:54 GREAT.
19:26:57 AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE 2 FOR
19:27:04 A BANK DRIVE-IN LOCATED 201, 203 AND 205 SOUTH HOWARD
19:27:06 AVENUE.
19:27:09 THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY WAIVERS, AND THE
19:27:14 CURRENT ZONING IS CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
19:27:18 SHOWN HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE AS WELL
19:27:20 AS SURROUNDING ZONING.
19:27:24 THE SUBJECT SITE IS ABOUT .46 ACRES IN SIZE.
19:27:27 AND IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
19:27:31 PROPERTY NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS DEVELOPED LIGHT
19:27:33 INDUSTRIAL USE AND ZONED PD.
19:27:36 PROPERTIES TO THE WEST ARE DEVELOPED COMMERCIAL OFFICE
19:27:40 USES AND RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY USES.
19:27:44 AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE IS ZONED PD AND THE
19:27:47 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY IS WITHIN THE RM-24 ZONING
19:27:48 DISTRICT.
19:27:54 TO THE SOUTH COMMERCIAL OFFICE USES AND PROPERTY TO THE
19:28:01 EAST IS DEVELOPED WITH RETAIL SERVICES.
19:28:04 SHOWN HERE IS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
19:28:09 THE DEVELOPMENT WILL INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY
19:28:15 2960-STARE-FOOT BUILDING AND TWO DRIVE-THRU LANES.
19:28:17 THE ENTRANCE TO THE SITE IS OFF OF WEST CLEVELAND
19:28:18 STREET TO THE NORTH.
19:28:21 THE EXIT TO THE SITES ARE LOCATED ON THE ALLEY TO THE
19:28:26 WEST AND SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE TO THE EAST.
19:28:30 THE PROPOSED REQUEST REQUIRE 12 PARKING SPACES AND A
19:28:32 TOTAL OF 16 ARE BEING PROVIDED.
19:28:35 SHOWN HERE, THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE
19:28:39 APPLICANT.
19:28:41 HERE IS THE PROPERTY FACING SOUTH FROM WEST CLEVELAND
19:28:44 STREET FROM THE LEFT.
19:28:47 AND FACING NORTHWEST ON HOWARD AVENUE SHOWN ON THE
19:28:52 RIGHT.
19:28:55 PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND NORTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT
19:28:58 SITE.
19:29:01 AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY LOCATED EAST OF THE SUBJECT
19:29:02 SITE.
19:29:09 SURROUNDING PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND WEST.
19:29:12 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
19:29:15 THE PETITION AND FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:29:23 APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
19:29:25 COUNCIL GRANT THE REQUESTED PETITION.
19:29:28 FURTHER MODIFICATIONS OF THE SITE PLAN MUST BE
19:29:30 COMPLETED WITHIN FIRST AND SECOND READING OF THE
19:29:32 ORDINANCE AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET.
19:29:35 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR
19:29:37 ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
19:29:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.
19:29:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS BARNES, CAN WE HAVE
19:29:42 TRANSPORTATION HERE.
19:29:46 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: SO SORRY, I DID NOT HEAR YOU.
19:29:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I APOLOGIZE.
19:29:50 DO WE NOT HAVE TRANSPORTATION WITH US TONIGHT.
19:29:51 THANK YOU.
19:29:56 JONATHAN, THERE WAS NO CONCERN WITH THIS LOT ONLY
19:30:00 HAVING TWO STREETS AVAILABLE FOR IT AND BOTH OF THEM
19:30:07 ARE ONE WAYS PERPENDICULAR TO ONE ANOTHER?
19:30:11 >> JONATHAN SCOTT: JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION.
19:30:13 THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, MR. CITRO.
19:30:15 WE DIDN'T HAVE A CONCERN.
19:30:18 THEY DESIGNED THE SITE WITH ALL THAT IN MIND AND THE
19:30:21 CIRCULATION OF THE SITE ALLOWS FOR THE -- TO MAKE USE
19:30:26 OF THE ONE-WAY STREETS.
19:30:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, JONATHAN.
19:30:29 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
19:30:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
19:30:32 ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS BARNES.
19:30:36 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
19:30:37 >> YES, WE DO.
19:30:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
19:30:45 >> I AM JONATHAN MOORE, 1304 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
19:30:46 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
19:30:50 I AM THE AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR THE PROPERTY DALLAS EVANS
19:30:54 FROM EVANS CIVIL ENGINEER AND ONLINE SHOULD WE NEED
19:30:59 THEM BRIAN SHEPHERD FROM 1771 ARCHITECTS TO TALK OF
19:31:00 PROJECT.
19:31:05 THE PROPERTY AT 201, 202, 203 SOUTH HOWARD AT THE
19:31:09 CORNER OF HOWARD AND CLEVELAND IS CG.
19:31:15 A BANK IS AN ALLOW BE USE FOR CG.
19:31:18 ADDING A DRIVE-THRU TO MAKE SURE TRAFFIC FLOWS AND
19:31:21 INGRESS AND EGRESS IS DESIGNED PROPERLY AND I BELIEVE
19:31:22 WE HAVE DONE THAT.
19:31:27 I WOULD LIKE TO READ SECTION 27-132 REGULATIONS
19:31:31 GOVERNING INDIVIDUAL SPECIAL USES DRIVE-IN WINDOWS.
19:31:33 THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC STANDARDS SHALL BE USED IN
19:31:37 DECIDING APPLICATIONS FOR APPROVALS OF THIS USE.
19:31:41 THE SITE SHALL HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO AN ARTERIAL OR
19:31:44 COLLECTOR STREET AS SHOWN ON THE MAJOR STREET MAP.
19:31:47 THE COMMENT WAS THE ENTRANCE TO THE SITE COMES FROM
19:31:49 WEST CLEVELAND TO THE NORTH.
19:31:54 THE EXITS TO THE SITE ARE ON AN ALLEY TO THE WEST AND
19:31:56 SOUTH HOWARD TO THE EAST.
19:31:59 AND ADEQUATE SPACE WITHIN THE LOT TO QUEUE PRIOR TO
19:32:01 USING THE DRIVE-IN WINDOW.
19:32:04 COMMENT FROM STAFF THIS STANDARD HAS BEEN MET.
19:32:07 BOTH CUES LANES AND THE DRIVE-IN WINDOW SHOULD BE AT
19:32:10 LEAST 50 FEET FROM ANY PROPERTY OF WHICH A RESIDENTIAL
19:32:11 USE IS LOCATED.
19:32:13 THIS STANDARD HAS BEEN MET.
19:32:16 YOU WILL SEE IN THE REPORT THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH
19:32:20 ALL OF THE STAFF COMMENTS WITHIN THREE CONDITIONS.
19:32:22 WE UNDERSTAND THE CONDITIONS FILED BY NATURAL
19:32:27 RESOURCES, WASTEWATER, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE FOR NOTES TO
19:32:29 BE ADDED TO OUR DRAWINGS.
19:32:32 AND STAFF COMMENTS AND RESPONSES ARE LIST NO WAIVERS
19:32:34 WHICH WE ARE PREPARED TO DO.
19:32:37 THE PLANS NEED TO BE IN BLACK AND WHITE WHICH WE ARE
19:32:38 PREPARED TO DO.
19:32:42 THE TITLE BAR, ADD THE ADDRESS AND FOLIO NUMBER, OF
19:32:52 COURSE, AND REMOVE THE LABEL AND THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER
19:32:54 WHICH WE ARE PREPARED TO DO.
19:32:56 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND MYSELF AND MY CIVIL
19:32:59 ENGINEER, DALLAS, ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT
19:33:01 YOU MIGHT HAVE.
19:33:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
19:33:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY AGAIN.
19:33:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU RECOGNIZED.
19:33:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT ALL YOUR
19:33:12 PRECAUTIONS HAVE BEEN TAKEN.
19:33:17 IS -- ARE BOTH OF THESE DRIVE-IN WINDOWS OR IS ONE OF
19:33:23 THEM A TUBE DISPENSARY?
19:33:25 YOU HAVE TWO LANES THERE.
19:33:29 >> ONE OF THEM WILL BE A TUBE, THAT'S CORRECT.
19:33:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HOPE YOU SEE MY CONCERN.
19:33:32 MOST PEOPLE -- IF THEY ARE LIKE ME, THEY MAKE THEIR
19:33:36 DEPOSITS EITHER ON THE WAY TO WORK OR COMING HOME FROM
19:33:40 WORK WHICH IS, OF COURSE, RUSH HOUR.
19:33:43 I JUST FIND IF STRAIN AGE THAT YOU HAVE TWO ONE-WAY
19:33:46 STREETS THAT I AM SURE DURING THOSE TIMES ARE VERY,
19:33:47 VERY CROWDED.
19:33:51 AGAIN I THANK YOU FOR DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, BUT I
19:33:57 RECEIVE PHONE CALLS EVERY DAY OF THE OF THE TRAFFIC
19:33:58 PROBLEMS WE HAVE IN.
19:34:01 I HOPE YOU CAN APPRECIATE MY QUESTIONS.
19:34:02 >> YES, SIR, WE DO.
19:34:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMEN?
19:34:11 ANYONE FROM THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
19:34:13 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT
19:34:14 COORDINATION.
19:34:17 NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
19:34:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS
19:34:20 ITEM?
19:34:25 >>CLERK: WE HAVE BRIAN SHEPHERD AND HE IS NOT LOGGED
19:34:26 ON.
19:34:28 >> THAT IS OUR ARCHITECT.
19:34:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO HAS MOVED TO CLOSE AND
19:34:33 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
19:34:34 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
19:34:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
19:34:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
19:34:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
19:34:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
19:34:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: --
19:34:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
19:34:48 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT
19:34:49 AT VOTE.
19:34:51 ALL RIGHT, MR. CARLSON.
19:34:56 THANK YOU, SIR.
19:34:57 >>BILL CARLSON: NUMBER 3?
19:34:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, NUMBER 3.
19:35:01 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
19:35:06 I MOVE FILE NO. REZ-SU 2-21-07, ORDINANCE BEING
19:35:09 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION ORDINANCE
19:35:13 OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 APPROVING A BANK, DRIVE-IN
19:35:16 AND CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL
19:35:22 VICINITY OF 201, 203 AND 205 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE IN
19:35:24 TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
19:35:29 SECTION 1 HEREOF PROVIDING OF AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
19:35:31 FINDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF
19:35:35 REPORTS, COMPLIANT WITH APPLICABLE LAND USE POLICIES AS
19:35:37 NOTED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT.
19:35:41 THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CMU-35 LAND USE
19:35:45 DESIGNATION WHICH ALLOWS FOR SINGLE USE COMMERCIAL
19:35:49 RESIDENTIAL USES.
19:35:52 THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA 27-132.
19:35:55 SPECIAL USE ALLOWED FOR CONSIDERATION OF C G ZONING
19:35:58 DISTRICT AND THE SPECIAL USE WILL HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO
19:36:01 AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR STREET.
19:36:03 WILL ARE ADEQUATE SPACE FOR VEHICLES TO QUEUE.
19:36:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT INCLUDES -- I AM SORRY, MR.
19:36:06 CHAIRMAN.
19:36:08 INCLUDING THE REVISION SHEET FROM FIRST AND SECOND
19:36:12 READING.
19:36:15 MR. CARLSON.
19:36:16 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
19:36:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
19:36:20 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
19:36:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
19:36:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
19:36:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
19:36:29 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER ABSENT AT
19:36:29 VOTE.
19:36:36 SECOND HEARING APRIL 7, 2022 AT 9:0.
19:36:37 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEN.
19:36:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, NUMBER 7.
19:36:46 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
19:36:47 COORDINATION.
19:36:51 NUMBER 7 FILE NO. REZ-21-89.
19:36:56 THE PROPERTY 5202 SOUTH PURITANS AVENUE FROM REZONE
19:37:00 RS-60 TO RS-50 AND TURN IT OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION
19:37:03 AND THEN AFTER THAT, I WILL DO MINE.
19:37:05 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE FROM THE PLANNING
19:37:05 COMMISSION.
19:37:08 ANNIE SAID 21-89.
19:37:09 IT IS IN SOUTH.
19:37:14 SPECIFICALLY IN THE BALLAST POINT NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:37:17 NO TRANSIT WITHIN PROXIMITY OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:37:20 I WILL NOTE THAT THE SITE IS WITHIN A LEVEL A
19:37:24 EVACUATION ZONE; HOWEVER, LESS THAN 50% OF THE SITE IS
19:37:28 LOCATED IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA SO JUST A VERY
19:37:29 SMALL PORTION.
19:37:34 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION IS BALLAST POINT PARK
19:37:37 WHICH IS .7 MILES TO THE EAST OF THE SITE.
19:37:40 HERE IS AN AERIAL AT THE CORNER OF WEST BALLAST POINT
19:37:45 BOULEVARD AND SOUTH PURITANS AVENUE WITHIN SOUTH
19:37:49 MACDILL, WE HAVE THE ELMER'S SPORTS CAFE AND ALSO SOME
19:37:53 MULTIFAMILY TO THE NORTH AT SOUTH MACDILL AND CHRIST
19:37:54 AVENUE.
19:37:56 BUT TO THE EAST OF THE SITE IS PRETTY MUCH
19:37:58 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
19:38:01 THE FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL-10.
19:38:05 TO THE WEST OF THE SITE ALONG SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE IS
19:38:06 COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
19:38:10 THAT PINK COLOR THAT ALLOW THOSE COMMERCIAL USES.
19:38:12 SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT
19:38:15 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:38:18 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE DENSITY IN THE
19:38:22 RESIDENTIAL-10 DOES ALLOW FOR THIS REZONING.
19:38:25 WE FOUND THAT THIS PORTION OF WEST BALLAST POINT
19:38:28 BOULEVARD AND SOUTH PURITANS AVENUE HAS A DENSITY OF
19:38:31 5.55 UNITS PER ACRE.
19:38:34 THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE ALLOWS FOR CONSIDERATION
19:38:39 OF TWO DWELLING UNITS AT 7.14 UNITS PER ACRE ON SUBJECT
19:38:40 SITE.
19:38:43 FURTHERMORE, THE REQUEST WILL ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT OF
19:38:47 SIMILAR FORM, HEIGHT AND SCALE OF RESIDENTIAL USES.
19:38:50 FOUND ALONG THIS PORTION OF SOUTH PURITANS AVENUE.
19:38:54 AND WE DID FIND AGAIN IT SUPPORTS MANY POLICIES OF THE
19:38:57 PLAN, SUCH AS PROVIDING ENOUGH HOUSING FOR TAMPA'S
19:39:00 GROWING POPULATION WHICH IS ONE OF OUR HOUSING
19:39:01 OBJECTIVES.
19:39:03 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I WILL TURN IT BACK
19:39:04 OVER TO ANNIE.
19:39:06 THANK YOU.
19:39:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
19:39:12 OKAY, MISS BARNES?
19:39:15 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
19:39:16 COORDINATION.
19:39:19 MAY I PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.
19:39:19 GREAT.
19:39:25 AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE 5202 SOUTH
19:39:30 PURITANS AVENUE FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
19:39:34 TO RS-50 ALSO RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
19:39:37 NO WAIVERS ARE REQUIRED FOR REQUESTED FOR EUCLIDIAN
19:39:39 REZONING.
19:39:45 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON LOTS 11-12, BLOCK 5 OF
19:39:47 TROPICAL TERRACE UNIT NUMBER 1.
19:39:50 SUBDIVISION PLATTED IN 1925 ALONG WITH THE NORTH HALF
19:39:53 OF THE CLOSING ALLEY.
19:39:56 SHOWN HERE IS THE SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY OF
19:39:59 APPROXIMATELY 12,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.
19:40:02 AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF THE
19:40:05 INTERSECTION -- SORRY.
19:40:07 SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF WEST BALLAST POINT
19:40:13 BOULEVARD AND SOUTH PURITANS AVENUE.
19:40:16 FROM HERE IS THE CONFORMING LOT MAP.
19:40:19 STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THAT 23% OF THE LOTS IN THE STUDY
19:40:23 AREA, 7% OF THE SUBJECT BLOCK.
19:40:27 10% OF THE BLOCK OF WEST BALLAST POINT BOULEVARD AND
19:40:32 12% OF THE BLOCK FACE WITH THE WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR
19:40:34 LESS.
19:40:37 SHOWN HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP WITH SURROUNDING ZONING.
19:40:42 PROPERTY LOCATED NORTH IS ZONED RS-75.
19:40:50 AND PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS ZONED RS-50.
19:40:54 SO PRIMARILY THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS RESIDENTIAL
19:40:56 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
19:41:01 SHOWN HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FACING EAST ALONG
19:41:06 PURITAN AVENUE.
19:41:10 SHOWN HERE SOUTH PURITAN AVENUE AND BALLAST POINT
19:41:11 FACING NORTH.
19:41:16 SHOWN HERE IS A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON THE
19:41:17 RIGHT SIDE THE SCREEN.
19:41:22 AGAIN, INTERSECTION OF SOUTH PURITAN AVENUE AND WEST OF
19:41:30 BALLAST POINT DRIVE ING EAST I HAVE A LONG THE WEST OF
19:41:32 BALANCE LAST POINT DRIVE.
19:41:34 SHOWN HERE ARE PROPERTY LOCATED ALONG BOTH SIDES OF
19:41:42 WEST BALLAST POINT DRIVE FACING EAST.
19:41:49 STAFF HAVE SHOWN 23% OF THE, 10% OF THE BLOCK OF WEST
19:41:53 BALLAST POINT BOULEVARD AND 12% OF THE BLOCK FACE ARE
19:41:57 WIDTHS OF 59.9 9 FEET OR LESS.
19:42:01 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAVE REVIEWED
19:42:04 THE REQUEST AND FINDS IT INCONSISTENT WITH THE
19:42:07 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE OVERALL STUDY AREA SUBJECT
19:42:11 BLOCK, BLOCK AND BLOCK FACE.
19:42:13 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
19:42:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS BARNES.
19:42:17 BEING NONE, WE WILL GO TO THE APPLICANT.
19:42:20 >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL, STEVE MICHELINI
19:42:24 REPRESENTING THE OWNER OF 5202 SOUTH PURITAN AVENUE.
19:42:27 FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE
19:42:30 ORIGINAL PLAT MAP THAT IS ON YOUR SCREEN.
19:42:34 THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE LOTS 1 AND 2 OUT OF BLOCK 2.
19:42:37 AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT ALL OF THE LOTS ARE ORIENTED
19:42:41 NORTH AND SOUTH.
19:42:43 IN THIS CASE AND WE CAN -- AND I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE
19:42:49 BETTER PICTURE OF THAT HERE AND WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING
19:42:53 THAT WE BE ALLOWED TO RE-ORIENT THE SITE FROM AN
19:42:58 EAST-WEST ORIENTATION TO A NORTH-SOUTH ORIENTATION.
19:43:01 IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
19:43:05 GREEN SPACE AND REAR YARDS FOR ALL OF THESE -- THESE
19:43:07 TWO PROPERTIES.
19:43:10 THIS IS THE.
19:43:16 THIS IS THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH REGARDING THE SITE.
19:43:19 AND THIS IS -- SORRY, THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
19:43:21 AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT ALL OF THE EXISTING
19:43:25 DEVELOPMENTS ARE NORTH-SOUTH.
19:43:28 THERE ARE VERY FEW IF ANY THAT ARE ORIENTED EAST AND
19:43:31 WEST.
19:43:36 THIS IS THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF BALLAST POINT, AND
19:43:39 YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DRIVEWAYS AND THE GARAGES AND THE
19:43:44 HOUSES ARE ALL ORIENTED OUT TOWARD BALLAST POINT.
19:43:48 WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS THAT WE ALLOW TO TURN THIS --
19:43:51 THIS PROPERTY SO THAT THE TWO LOTS FOR DEVELOPMENT
19:43:59 PURPOSES WOULD BE NORTH-SOUTH ORIENTED.
19:44:02 THIS IS A LITTLE MATTER OF DETAIL PHOTOGRAPH SHOWING
19:44:08 YOU THE GARAGES AND THE ORIENTATION OF THE HOMES.
19:44:11 THIS IS THE SAME PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS
19:44:18 IDENTIFIED WITH THE -- WITH THE RED DOT.
19:44:21 SO THE SHIFT IN ORIENTATION REQUIRES THAT WE REZONE
19:44:24 THIS TO RS-50, BECAUSE THE LOTS WERE ORIGINALLY
19:44:27 PLATTED AT 50 FEET WIDE.
19:44:31 ALTHOUGH WE COULD BUILD TWO HOUSES HERE ALREADY IF WE
19:44:34 KEPT THE ORIENTATION TOWARD PURITAN AVENUE AND THE
19:44:37 STAFF CAN CONFIRM THAT, WHICH I DID EARLIER JUST TO
19:44:40 MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF THAT.
19:44:44 THE DOMINANT ORIENTATION OF THE ENTIRE AREA IS
19:44:45 NORTH-SOUTH.
19:44:47 AND WE ARE REQUESTING THAT WE BE ALLOWED TO CHANGE THAT
19:44:50 ORIENTATION SO THAT IT WILL BE COMPATIBLE.
19:44:54 IT IS ADJACENT TO OTHER 50-FOOT LOTS THAT ARE DEVELOPED
19:44:56 IN THIS PATTERN.
19:45:01 IT IS SHOWN ON THE STAFF REPORT BY THE PLANNING
19:45:04 COMMISSION AND BY THE CITY, IT SHOWS YOU THE
19:45:06 ORIENTATION AND THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
19:45:11 SO ALTHOUGH THE AREA IS DEVELOPED IN LARGER LOTS, THERE
19:45:22 ARE ADJACENT CEASE TO THIS -- ADJACENCIES THAT ARE IN
19:45:23 SAME DIRECTIONS.
19:45:26 WE ARE ONE BLOCK FROM MACDILL WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL
19:45:29 STRIP AND A COMMERCIAL ORIENTATION AND A FEW BLOCKS
19:45:31 NORTH OF GANDY.
19:45:34 SO THIS IS A TRANSITION AREA WITH RESPECT TO
19:45:34 DEVELOPMENT.
19:45:37 AND WE BELIEVE THIS IS COMPATIBLE AS THE PLANNING
19:45:39 COMMISSION HAS POINTED OUT.
19:45:42 THE --
19:45:47 WE ARE JUST -- AS I SAID ONE BLOCK OFF OF MACDILL.
19:45:50 WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES IN THE
19:45:56 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF LAND USE 9.2, 9.2.1, 9.3,
19:45:58 9.3.8.
19:46:01 SINGLE-FAMILY AREA OBJECTIVE 9.5.
19:46:04 LAND USE POLICY 9.51.
19:46:07 LAND USE POLICY 9.53.
19:46:12 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES 9.3.
19:46:13 9.30.
19:46:21 HOUSING 1.3, 1.31, 1.33, 1.34.
19:46:26 INFRASTRUCTURE 1.1, 1.16 AND COMPATIBLE AS WELL AS WELL
19:46:31 COASTAL HIGH HAZARD ARE DIRECTING DEVELOPMENT -- LESS
19:46:36 INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENTS AWAY FROM COASTAL HIGH HAZARDS,
19:46:38 1.1 AND 1.12.
19:46:40 WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND AND SUMMARY AND
19:46:44 CONCLUSION THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE AND COMPATIBLE
19:46:47 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ALONG WEST BALLAST POINT
19:46:50 AND SOUTH PURITAN AVENUE AND CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:46:54 LONG-RANGE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN UNDER RESIDENTIAL-10, WE
19:46:55 CONCUR WITH THAT COMPLETELY.
19:46:59 I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF SHOULD
19:47:02 PROBABLY LOOKING AT IS NOT JUST WHETHER OR NOT THE
19:47:06 DEVELOPMENT DENSITY OR THE INTENSITY REGARDING THE
19:47:08 WIDTH AND DIMENSION OF THE PROPERTY BUT WHAT IS THE
19:47:11 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND THE ORIENTATION.
19:47:14 IN THIS CASE WE ARE ORIENTED BACK TO THE HISTORIC
19:47:16 PLATTING THAT WAS THERE.
19:47:21 AND ALSO ABSOLUTELY 100% CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:47:25 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT EXISTS ALONG BALLAST POINT.
19:47:30 WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH AREA TO COMPLY WITH THE RS-60;
19:47:35 HOWEVER, THE STREET FRONTAGE AND THE PLATTING DOES NOT
19:47:37 ALLOW US TO HAVE THAT.
19:47:43 AS ANNIE POINTED OUT, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 1200 -- WE
19:47:47 HAVE 60 -- BASICALLY 06 X 100 IF WE ORIENT THEM EAST
19:47:50 AND WEST AND WE CAN DEVELOP IT AND BUILD IT BY RIGHT.
19:47:54 WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS A BETTER OBJECTIVE TO TURN THOSE
19:47:57 UNITS TO THEY FACE -- ACCORDING TO THE ORIGINAL PLAT,
19:48:01 NORTH AND SOUTH AND DOES REQUIRE A CHANGE IN ZONING
19:48:04 BECAUSE WE CAN'T MEET THE 50-FOOT FRONTAGE.
19:48:07 I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE,
19:48:09 BUT WE BELIEVE WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
19:48:09 PATTERN.
19:48:14 WE HAD NO OBJECTIONS EITHER BY MAIL OR PHONE REGARDING
19:48:15 THIS PROJECT.
19:48:19 AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
19:48:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS BARNES.
19:48:26 THE BASIS FOR YOUR INCONSISTENCY AGAIN?
19:48:28 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT
19:48:29 COORDINATION.
19:48:35 SO THE CONFORMING LOT MAP THAT WAS PROVIDED TAKES INTO
19:48:39 CONSIDERATION SUBJECT LOTS WITHIN 1320 SQUARE FEET AND
19:48:42 A RADIUS RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
19:48:46 SO BASED UPON THE ANALYSIS OF THOSE LOTS WITHIN 1320
19:48:54 SQUARE FEET, THE REQUEST WAS FOUND INCONSISTENT.
19:48:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
19:49:00 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
19:49:01 ALL RIGHT, BEING NONE.
19:49:03 ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
19:49:07 ITEM NUMBER 7?
19:49:09 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT AND
19:49:10 COORDINATION.
19:49:11 NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
19:49:12 THANK YOU.
19:49:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS
19:49:15 ITEM?
19:49:18 >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK.
19:49:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION.
19:49:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
19:49:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
19:49:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
19:49:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
19:49:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
19:49:29 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
19:49:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
19:49:36 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT
19:49:37 AT VOTE.
19:49:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.
19:49:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
19:49:47 ORDINANCE REZONING THE GENERAL SI SIN TEE OF 5502 SOUTH
19:49:50 PURITAN AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
19:49:54 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED OF ZONING CLASSIFICATION RS-06
19:49:59 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE
19:50:03 FAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AS THE APPLICANT HAS
19:50:09 MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF OF COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL
19:50:13 EVIDENCE AND COMPLAINT WITH APPLICABLE GOALS AND
19:50:16 POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS NOTED IN THE
19:50:17 PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT.
19:50:21 THE DENSITY PROPOSED IS NOT EXCEEDING THE DENSITY UNDER
19:50:24 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY AND COMPLIANT WITH THE LAND
19:50:25 DEVELOPMENT CODE.
19:50:30 THE PURPOSE -- THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PROMOTES AND
19:50:33 ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION,
19:50:35 CHARACTERS AND COMPATIBILITY OF THE SURROUNDING
19:50:37 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:50:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
19:50:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
19:50:40 ROLL CALL.
19:50:42 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
19:50:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
19:50:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
19:50:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
19:50:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
19:50:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
19:50:52 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT
19:50:52 AT VOTE.
19:50:56 SECOND READING APRIL 7, 2022 AT 9:30.
19:50:57 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
19:51:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 8.
19:51:07 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL, ANNIE BARNES,
19:51:08 LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
19:51:13 ITEM NUMBER 8 FILE NO. REZ-21-122.
19:51:16 THE ADDRESS 409 SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE.
19:51:19 FROM RM-16 TO PD.
19:51:21 I WILL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO THE PLANNING
19:51:23 COMMISSION AT THIS TIME.
19:51:26 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, AGAIN, WITH YOUR
19:51:27 PLANNING COMMISSION.
19:51:31 IS IN SOUTH TAMPA AGAIN.
19:51:33 IN THE SOUTH HOWARD NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:51:37 HYDE PARK IS THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
19:51:41 ABOUT A HALF MILE FROM THE SITE IN EVACUATION ZONE C
19:51:45 AND THE CLOSEST TRANSIT IS QUARTER MILE TO THE
19:51:47 NORTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE WITH THE INTERSECTION OF
19:51:49 WEST PLATT AND MELVILLE AVENUE.
19:51:52 HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE OFF PLAT.
19:51:56 VERY CLOSE TO POST HYDE PARK WHICH IS LOCATED TO THE
19:51:57 EAST OF THE SITE.
19:51:59 THE SITE -- THE STREET AND A LOT OF THE SURROUNDING
19:52:05 DEVELOPMENT HAS REALLY BEEN DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL.
19:52:07 DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL.
19:52:10 MOSTLY TOWN HOME STYLE DEVELOPMENT OR SINGLE-FAMILY
19:52:11 ATTACHED.
19:52:15 AND POST HYDE PARK IS, OF COURSE, A LARGE DEPARTMENT,
19:52:18 MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX.
19:52:21 SO THE SUBJECT SITE HAS A FUTURE LAND USE OF
19:52:22 RESIDENTIAL-35.
19:52:25 TO THE EAST, THIS IS RESIDENTIAL 50.
19:52:30 AND THE DARKER MAROON COLOR IS RESIDENTIAL-35.
19:52:33 COMMERCIAL 35 WHICH IS THE RED COLOR TO THE NORTH AND
19:52:37 COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 IS THE PINK TO THE NORTH AS WELL
19:52:39 THAT ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL USES.
19:52:42 THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:52:43 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:52:48 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ADD A TWO-FAMILY
19:52:53 RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE FOR A TOTAL OF THREE UNITS.
19:52:56 SO THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT 35 DWELLING UNITS PER
19:52:58 ACRE.
19:53:02 SO THE REQUEST PROPOSES 27.7 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE ON
19:53:04 THE SITE SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL-35
19:53:08 CLASSIFICATION.
19:53:12 WE WOULD ASK THAT THE APPLICANT BETWEEN FIRST AND
19:53:15 SECOND READING ADD -- I THINK ANNIE WILL PROBABLY
19:53:18 EXPLAIN THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE TOO, BUT ADD A
19:53:21 CONNECTION FROM SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE TO THE PROPOSED
19:53:25 STRUCTURE IN THE REAR OF THE -- OF THE HOUSE.
19:53:28 A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION IS NEEDED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH
19:53:31 LU POLICY 9.2.6.
19:53:34 IF THE APPLICANT CAN DO THAT, PLANNING COMMISSION WILL
19:53:37 APPRECIATE THAT, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH
19:53:38 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:53:42 BUT OVERALL THIS SUPPORTS MANY POLICIES OF THE
19:53:43 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:53:46 COMPATIBLE INFILL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
19:53:49 IN AN AREA THAT SUPPORTS AN INCREASE IN RELATION
19:53:49 DEVELOPMENT.
19:53:52 IT IS A MODERATE DENSITY AREA.
19:53:56 AND SO WE DEFINED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND
19:53:59 USE CATEGORY AND SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND
19:54:01 CONSISTENT WITH THE HOUSING POLICIES TO PROVIDE ENOUGH
19:54:04 HOUSING FOR TAMPA'S GROWING POPULATION.
19:54:09 AGAIN, WE WILL INCLUDE MY PRESENTATION AND TURN OVER TO
19:54:09 ANNIE.
19:54:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
19:54:13 BEING NONE.
19:54:14 MISS BARNES.
19:54:17 >>ANASTASIA BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
19:54:17 COORDINATION.
19:54:24 MAY I PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.
19:54:27 AS MISS MALONE ALREADY STATED, THE APPLICANT IS
19:54:33 REQUESTING TO REZONE 4SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE FROM RM-16
19:54:37 TO RESIDENTIAL -- PD FOR RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
19:54:44 DETACH AND RESIDENTIAL TWO-FAMILY USES.
19:54:47 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.
19:54:50 SHOWN HERE IS THE SURVEY OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
19:54:54 APPROXIMATELY .11 ACRES IN SIZE.
19:54:58 SHOWN HERE IS THE SITE AND ORIGINALLY PLATTED
19:55:04 SUBDIVISION PLATTED IN 1903.
19:55:09 HERE IS PART OF SITE PLAN PACKAGE PROVIDED BY THE
19:55:11 APPLICANT SHOWING THE PROPOSED OVERALL LAYOUT OF THE
19:55:13 SITE.
19:55:16 THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF THREE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING
19:55:18 UNITS ON THE SITE.
19:55:24 AND PROPOSED -- OR VEHICULAR ACCESS IS PROVIDED FROM
19:55:26 FREMONT AVENUE.
19:55:31 HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
19:55:35 SHOWN HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP SURROUNDING ZONINGS.
19:55:38 PROPERTY SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT SITE ARE DEVELOPED TO
19:55:42 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY.
19:55:48 THERE ARE SOME PDS AS WELL, BUT THEY ALLOW RESIDENTIAL
19:55:56 MULTIFAMILY USES, PARTICULARLY PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS
19:56:00 ZONED -- IS DEVELOPED WITH A DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS POST
19:56:03 HYDE PARK APARTMENTS.
19:56:07 SO HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FACING WEST ALONG SOUTH
19:56:09 FREMONT AVENUE.
19:56:13 SHOWN HERE IS A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FURTHER
19:56:17 SOUTH OF FREMONT AVENUE NORTHWEST.
19:56:21 SHOWN HERE, A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON THE LEFT
19:56:26 OF YOUR SCREEN FACING WEST ON SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE.
19:56:29 AND THESE ARE -- THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT -- APARTMENTS
19:56:32 THINK THAT MENTIONED EARLIER.
19:56:36 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
19:56:39 THE PETITION AND FIND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:56:42 APPLICABLE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
19:56:44 SHOULD COUNCIL GRANT THE REQUESTED REZONING
19:56:48 COMPETITION, FURTHER MODIFICATION OF SITE PLAN MUST BE
19:56:52 COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE
19:56:54 AS STATE IN THE REVISION SHEET.
19:56:57 MISS MALONE ALREADY STATED, THAT CONNECTION LANGUAGE
19:57:01 AND MODIFICATION HAS TO BE ADDED BEFORE FIRST AND
19:57:05 SECOND READING WHICH IS ALREADY ON THE REVISION SHEET.
19:57:08 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR
19:57:10 ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
19:57:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS BARNES?
19:57:13 BEING NONE.
19:57:15 WE WILL GO TO THE APPLICANT.
19:57:17 SWEAR YOU IN.
19:57:20 >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
19:57:23 [SWEARING IN]
19:57:25 >> I DO.
19:57:28 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
19:57:30 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
19:57:32 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING OUR PETITION FOR REZONING
19:57:36 REZ 21-122.
19:57:39 I AM THE APPLICANT FOR THE PROJECT.
19:57:41 AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
19:57:44 IS THAT POSSIBLE?
19:57:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
19:57:48 >> OKAY.
19:57:57 HERE WE GO.
19:57:58 SORRY.
19:58:04 I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE PREPARED.
19:58:38 OKAY.
19:58:39 OKAY.
19:58:42 JUST A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE PROPERTY.
19:58:47 THE NEXT SLIDE -- A LITTLE BIT OF A ZOOM IN ON THE
19:58:49 AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH SHOW THE PROPERTY HERE.
19:58:52 AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ALLEY BEHIND THE PROPERTY,
19:58:57 THERE ARE ALREADY ACCESS TO THE MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS TO
19:58:59 THE NORTH, THE SOUTH, THE EAST.
19:59:03 SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO PUT PARKING FROM THE ALLEY INTO
19:59:08 THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY FOR FOUR PARKING SPACES AND
19:59:11 ALSO THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME WILL REMAIN AND A NEW
19:59:14 DRIVEWAY WILL BE INSTALLED WITH TWO TANDEM PARKING
19:59:16 SPACES WITH A TOTAL OF SIX PARKING SPACES.
19:59:21 THIS IS AN AERIAL BACK TO THE PROPERTY OVER TOP OF THE
19:59:24 POST HYDE PARK APARTMENTS.
19:59:26 THE EXISTING HOUSE IS GOING TO REMAIN.
19:59:27 IT IS A HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
19:59:31 AND WHAT WE WILL BE DOING IN THE BACK IS A TWO-FAMILY
19:59:33 DWELLING IN THE BACK HERE WHICH WILL ECHO THE FLORIDA
19:59:37 VERNACULAR ARCHITECTURE THAT IS THERE.
19:59:39 AGAIN, FRONT OF THE BUILDING IS EXISTING THAT WILL
19:59:42 REMAIN.
19:59:44 AND THIS IS OUR SITE PLAN PROPOSED.
19:59:48 AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING PAVED
19:59:48 ALLEY.
19:59:52 AND WE ARE COMING IN WITH FOUR PAVED SPACES FROM THE
19:59:53 REAR HERE.
19:59:56 THIS IS THE TWO-FAMILY DWELLING WITH SEPARATE
19:59:59 ENTRANCES, ONE ON THE GROUND LEVEL AND ONE ON THE
20:00:00 SECOND FLOOR.
20:00:02 AND THIS IS THE EXISTING HOUSE.
20:00:05 OUR PROPOSAL IS BASE ON THE REQUEST FROM THE
20:00:07 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
20:00:10 WE WILL BE PROVIDING A PATHWAY SOMEWHERE ALONG HERE TO
20:00:14 GET TO THE DRIVEWAY THAT WILL ALLOW ACCESS TO FREMONT
20:00:16 AVENUE.
20:00:16 AND THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
20:00:17 WE ARE USING WOOD SIDING WITH SHAKES AND DOUBLE-HUNG
20:00:19 WINDOWS, VERY SIMPLE FLORIDA VERNACULAR ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
20:00:28 OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE REVIEWED OUR PROJECT FOUND OUR
20:00:32 PROPOSAL CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL AS
20:00:34 OUR DEVELOPMENT CODES.
20:00:37 AS I MENTIONED WE WILL BE PROVIDING A PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY,
20:00:40 AND THERE ARE SOME UPDATES TO BE DONE BETWEEN FIRST AND
20:00:42 SECOND READING.
20:00:43 I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST YOUR KIND CONSIDERATION FOR AN
20:00:47 APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL AGREE
20:00:50 THAT THE PROPOSAL IS BOTH APPROPRIATE AND SUBSTANTIVE TO THE
20:00:54 PROPERTY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:00:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:00:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
20:01:02 ALL RIGHT.
20:01:02 ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
20:01:10 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
20:01:11 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
20:01:13 THANK YOU.
20:01:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
20:01:14 >>THE CLERK: NO REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
20:01:19 >> MOTION TO CLOSE BY MIRANDA.
20:01:26 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:01:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. BARNES?
20:01:33 IF I MAY, PLEASE.
20:01:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE WE GOING TO REOPEN THE HEARING?
20:01:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE.
20:01:38 VOTED ON THAT, HAVE WE?
20:01:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OH, THIS IS A VOTE TO CLOSE.
20:01:42 I'M SORRY.
20:01:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I SEE IT'S CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD BUT
20:01:45 LOOKING AT THE SITE PLANS, IS THERE GOING TO BE SPACE ON
20:01:50 THIS?
20:01:51 ARE THEY GOING TO MEET THE SETBACKS?
20:01:53 THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF BUILDING ON A SMALL LOT.
20:01:55 I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW IT MET ALL THE CONSISTENCY.
20:01:58 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
20:02:02 SO THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY WAIVERS TO THE CODE.
20:02:06 THE REASON WHY, THE SIMPLEST EXPLANATION, IT CAME IN AS A
20:02:14 DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT THE EXISTING LOT HAS BEEN AN
20:02:17 INTERESTING CONFIGURATION SINCE AT LEAST 1971 WITH THE
20:02:21 EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
20:02:24 IT'S ONLY 40 FEET IN WIDTH.
20:02:26 SO THAT COULD NOT BE EUCLIDEAN ZONING MINIMUM STANDARD, SO
20:02:32 THE SMALLEST WOULD BE 50 FEET IN WIDTH.
20:02:35 SO THIS LOT POSSIBILITY INCREASED DEVELOPMENT, OTHERWISE IT
20:02:40 WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED WITHOUT A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
20:02:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. BARNES.
20:02:46 YES, I VOTE TO CLOSE.
20:02:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
20:02:50 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
20:02:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
20:02:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
20:02:54 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
20:02:56 VOTE.
20:02:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA?
20:03:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE 8, REZ 21-122, AN ORDINANCE BEING
20:03:07 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READ BEING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
20:03:09 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 409 SOUTH
20:03:12 FREMONT AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
20:03:14 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
20:03:17 CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED
20:03:22 DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND
20:03:24 RESIDENTIAL TWO-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
20:03:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
20:03:30 ROLL CALL.
20:03:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
20:03:33 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
20:03:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
20:03:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
20:03:39 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:03:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
20:03:41 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
20:03:43 VOTE.
20:03:44 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 7th,
20:03:47 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
20:03:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 9.
20:03:51 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
20:03:57 ITEM NUMBER 9 IS REZ 21-125, SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT
20:04:02 2501 NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE.
20:04:05 THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS-60 TO RS-50.
20:04:10 I'LL TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
20:04:13 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
20:04:16 AS ANNIE STATED THIS IS 21-125, TAMPA BUSINESS PLANNING
20:04:22 DISTRICT, RECREATIONAL FACILITY LOCATED JUST ONE BLOCK FROM
20:04:28 THE SITE, IN EVACUATION ZONE C AND THERE IS TRANSIT LOCATED
20:04:32 ONE BLOCK NORBERT FROM THE SITE AT THE INTERSECTION OF
20:04:35 GLENWOOD DRIVE AND WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
20:04:37 HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE SITE.
20:04:39 AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S JUST SOUTH OF WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
20:04:44 THE PATTERN ALONG WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE IS COMMERCIAL IN
20:04:47 NATURE, THE GAS STATION TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE, AND ONE
20:04:51 SOUTH OF WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
20:04:55 THE FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL 10.
20:04:58 TO THE NORTH, THIS GREEN PIECE IS PHILLIPS PARK, OPEN SPACE,
20:05:05 THAT COUNCIL HAS SEEN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
20:05:08 THIS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 WHICH ALLOWS FOR THIS COMMERCIAL
20:05:11 USE ON WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
20:05:13 AND IT WAS FELT WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE IS PRETTY MUCH
20:05:18 RESIDENTIAL 10 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, WHICH IS -- A USE THE
20:05:23 ZONING WOULD COMMIT, AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
20:05:25 PLAN, AND WITH THAT RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE
20:05:29 DESIGNATION IT SUPPORTS MANY POLICIES OF THE PLAN AS
20:05:32 SUPPORTS TO HOUSING IN THIS POPULATION.
20:05:34 IT'S AN AREA OF THE CITY SEEKS INCREASED IN-FILL
20:05:40 DEVELOPMENT, AND THE POLICY ABOUT EMERGING NEW HOUSING ON
20:05:43 VACANT OR UNDERUTILIZED LAND, WE FOUND IT WAS COMPATIBLE AND
20:05:47 COMPARABLE ALONG WEST GLENWOOD DRIVE.
20:05:50 THIS PORTION OF NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE HAS AN EXISTING DENSITY
20:05:53 OF 5.55 UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS BELOW WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE
20:05:58 PLAN IS INDICATING.
20:05:59 SO WE DID NOT FIND IT WOULD HAVE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS AND
20:06:02 THIS WOULD BE AGAIN WITNESS CAN THE LONG RANGE DEVELOPMENT
20:06:05 PATTERN.
20:06:06 I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
20:06:07 I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER.
20:06:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. MALONE?
20:06:13 SEEING NONE, MS. BARNES?
20:06:15 >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
20:06:17 MAY I PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.
20:06:28 THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS-60 TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL
20:06:32 SINGLE-FAMILY, NO WAIVERS ARE REQUESTED.
20:06:36 THIS IS IN -- ZONING.
20:06:40 SUBJECT PROPERTY PROVIDES TWO PLATTED LOTS THAT WERE PLATTED
20:06:46 IN 1922.
20:06:50 THIS IS A SURVEY OF THE CURRENT SITE.
20:06:53 IT'S APPROXIMATELY 14,665 SQUARE FEET INSIDE.
20:06:59 SHOWN HERE IS THE CONFORMING LOT MAP.
20:07:02 STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THAT 65% OF THE LOTS IN THIS STUDY
20:07:05 AREA, 80% OF THE SUBJECT LOT, OF NORTH GLENWOOD AVENUE, 100%
20:07:12 OF BLOCK B, FROM LOT WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
20:07:18 HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH
20:07:21 SURROUNDING ZONING.
20:07:22 AS YOU CAN SEE LARGELY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY WITH THE
20:07:28 EXCEPTION OF SOME HIGHER INTENSITY ALONG WEST COLUMBUS
20:07:32 DRIVE.
20:07:35 SEW SHOWN HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FACING EAST FROM
20:07:38 NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE.
20:07:41 SO HERE IS THE PROPERTY FACING NORTH FROM WEST AMELIA
20:07:44 AVENUE.
20:07:47 HERE ARE SUBJECT PROPERTY, SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ON BOTH
20:07:51 SIDES, AMELIA AVENUE FACING EAST, AS WELL AS PROPERTIES ON
20:07:59 ALONGSIDE OF NORTH GLENWOOD AVENUE TOWARDS COLUMBUS DRIVE,
20:08:05 ON THE SAME SIDE AS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
20:08:09 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW -- DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION STAFF HAS
20:08:13 REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT
20:08:16 WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
20:08:19 ADDITIONALLY BASED ON THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF
20:08:22 THE AREA, SUBJECT LOT, BLOCK AND LOT FACE.
20:08:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. BARNES?
20:08:31 SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
20:08:33 >> SHANE O'NEIL, THE OWNER BUILDER ON THE PROPERTY.
20:08:40 AS MENTIONED BEFORE, A NARROW SHOT OF RIDGEWOOD PARK,
20:08:45 ACTUALLY A RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ALSO A DEVELOPER.
20:08:49 THE RED STAR REPRESENTS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
20:08:52 THE GREEN STARS ALL REFERENCE PROPERTIES THAT WERE SINGLE
20:08:56 HOME ON A DOUBLE LOT, RS-60 TURNED INTO RS-50.
20:09:00 I DID THIS PERSONALLY ON 708 WEST AMELIA, DEVELOPED THE TWO
20:09:04 HOMES THERE.
20:09:05 I DID THE SAME THING FOR WEST PARK BY WAY OF A PD WITH A CUP
20:09:11 OF DIFFERENT REQUESTS ON THAT PROJECT.
20:09:13 CLOSE FRIEND OF MINE JUST DID THE RS-60 AT 2011 NORTH
20:09:20 RIVERSIDE DRIVE LATE LAST YEAR, AND THE SAME REZONING
20:09:24 RS-60-RS-50 2408 NORTH GLENWOOD.
20:09:28 SO IT IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND AS WE
20:09:33 DEVELOP THE PLAN.
20:09:36 ON THE DOCUMENT HERE KIND OF SHOWS AN AERIAL SHOP OF
20:09:39 GLENWOOD DRIVE AS MENTIONED.
20:09:41 MOST HOMES, MOST LOTS ON THIS STRIP ARE 59 FEET OR LESS, AND
20:09:47 EVERY SINGLE LOT HERE, AND HERE, ARE EXACTLY 50 FEET IN
20:09:52 WIDTH.
20:09:52 SO AGAIN GOING BACK TO -- IT DOES FIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
20:09:57 THE PRECEDENT IS THERE FOR THIS TYPE OF REZONING.
20:10:02 IT'S NOT SITE PLAN DRIVEN, SO IT IS EUCLIDIAN, BUT AS SOON
20:10:06 AS WE GET THE APPROVAL HERE, THEY WILL START DESIGNING
20:10:09 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO BUILD ON THESE TWO VACANT LOTS.
20:10:20 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
20:10:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYTHING FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
20:10:23 ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
20:10:28 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
20:10:29 THERE IS NO ONE HEAR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
20:10:31 THANK YOU.
20:10:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
20:10:33 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
20:10:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE BY MIRANDA.
20:10:39 SECOND?
20:10:41 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
20:10:43 ROLL CALL.
20:10:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
20:10:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
20:10:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
20:10:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
20:10:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:10:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
20:10:53 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
20:10:55 VOTE.
20:10:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MR. VIERA, WILL YOU HANDLE
20:10:59 NUMBER 9 FOR US?
20:11:01 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:11:01 THE PROBLEM IS, I DON'T HAVE -- SINCE I AM NOT THERE I DON'T
20:11:05 HAVE --
20:11:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO WILL TAKE IT.
20:11:08 THANK YOU.
20:11:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
20:11:10 MY APOLOGIES.
20:11:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
20:11:17 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
20:11:19 IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2501 NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE IN THE
20:11:23 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
20:11:26 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM 60
20:11:28 RESIDENTIAL TO RS 0 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING AN
20:11:32 EFFECTIVE DATE.
20:11:33 THE APPLICANT HAS MET THEIR BURDEN OF PROOF WITH COMPETENT
20:11:37 AND EVIDENCE, WE SAW THE CONSISTENCY FINDING AS WELL.
20:11:44 AND REALLY THAT'S IT.
20:11:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA?
20:11:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
20:11:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
20:11:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
20:11:55 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
20:11:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
20:11:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:12:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
20:12:01 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
20:12:03 VOTE.
20:12:03 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 7, 2022 AT
20:12:07 9:30 A.M.
20:12:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
20:12:11 THE LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 13.
20:12:14 >>ANNIE BARNES: ITEM 13 IS REZ 22-22, 3302 WEST OR RATIO
20:12:30 STREET, FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 24 TO PD.
20:12:34 I WILL TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO JENNIFER MALONE WITH
20:12:39 PLANNING.
20:12:40 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
20:12:43 I AM PRESENTING ON 22-22.
20:12:48 I APOLOGIZE.
20:12:51 LET ME GET MY NOTES IN ORDER.
20:12:58 THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET TO THE
20:13:01 SOUTH, LEVEL C EVACUATION ZONE.
20:13:04 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
20:13:05 IT'S CURRENTLY A VACANT -- TO THE NORTH, AND I APOLOGIZE, I
20:13:11 BELIEVE I SAID EARLIER THIS IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
20:13:15 DISTRICT.
20:13:15 I WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT THE RECORD.
20:13:17 IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
20:13:21 TO THE NORTH IS A MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX, TO THE WEST OF THE
20:13:24 SITE RESIDENTIAL, AND MOST OF THE SURROUNDING AREA HAS BEEN
20:13:27 DEVELOPED WITH A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT TYPES.
20:13:31 SUBJECT SITE IS RESIDENTIAL 35.
20:13:34 TYPICALLY RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY, BUT SOME NEIGHBORHOOD
20:13:39 SERVING USES AND A PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IS CONSIDERED
20:13:42 ONE OF THOSE.
20:13:43 AND THEN TO THE WEST OF THE SITE IS HENDERSON BOULEVARD, AND
20:13:48 COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 WHICH IS COMMERCIAL USES ALLOWABLE IN
20:13:54 THAT LAND USE CATEGORY.
20:13:56 PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE
20:13:58 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
20:14:00 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL THROUGH THIS PLANNED
20:14:03 DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW REDEVELOPMENT OF AN EXISTING PLACE OF
20:14:06 RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.
20:14:07 SO TYPICALLY, AND NOW RECORDS SHOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN A
20:14:13 PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY ON THE SITE SINCE ABOUT 1906 SO
20:14:16 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES RECOGNIZE THIS ESTABLISHMENT OF
20:14:19 THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE DID NOT FIND ANY
20:14:22 CONCERNS WITH COMPATIBILITY HAVING MIXED USE IN THE
20:14:25 RESIDENTIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
20:14:30 AND THE RESIDENTIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE ALLOWS FOR PLACE OF
20:14:33 RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IF CERTAIN CRITERIA IS MET.
20:14:37 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS DETERMINED ITS USE IS
20:14:39 COMPATIBLE.
20:14:40 I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT THEY ARE WELL BELOW THE FLOOR AREA
20:14:44 LACE OWE WHICH IS A NUMBER THAT DETERMINES THE AMOUNT OF
20:14:46 SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT CAN BE BUILT ON A SITE IN THE
20:14:49 RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES, SO THAT WAY, ANY
20:14:56 RESIDENTIAL REMAINS COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT,
20:14:59 AND THIS IS VERY, VERY MUCH -- VERY WELL IN LINE WITH THEIR
20:15:04 MAXIMUM THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED.
20:15:06 SO WE DID NOT HAVE ANY CONCERNS THERE.
20:15:09 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
20:15:11 I WILL TURN IT BACK TO ANNIE.
20:15:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. MALONE?
20:15:15 MS. BARNES?
20:15:16 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
20:15:21 I AM GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
20:15:30 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ZONE 3302 WEST HORATIO STREET
20:15:36 FROM RM-24 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR PLACE OF RELIGIOUS
20:15:40 ASSEMBLY.
20:15:41 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING WAIVERS, AS SHOWN
20:15:46 ON THE SCREEN HERE.
20:15:47 SHOWN HERE IS THE SURVEY OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
20:15:56 THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH HALF OF LOTS 1 AND 2,
20:16:03 PLATTED IN 1910 AS SHOWN HERE.
20:16:09 PRINCIPAL BUILDING SETBACKS ARE AS FOLLOWS: NORTH 10 FEET,
20:16:12 SOUTH 66 FEET, EAST 20 FEET, WEST 167 FEET.
20:16:17 APPROACHED MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 38 FEET WITH
20:16:21 CONDITIONAL HEIGHT ALLOWED FOR PARAPET AND STEEPLE, A BELL
20:16:26 TOWER, A TOTAL OF 96 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 100
20:16:29 SPACES ARE BEING PROVIDED.
20:16:31 VEHICULAR INGRESS AND EGRESS IS PROVIDED FROM WEST HORATIO
20:16:38 STREET AND SOUTH LINCOLN AVE.
20:16:42 SHOWN HERE ARE THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS PROVIDED BY THE
20:16:44 APPLICANT.
20:16:46 HERE IS THE AERIAL MAP SHOWING SURROUNDING USES.
20:16:51 PROPERTY SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT SITE A BODY OF RESIDENTIAL
20:16:54 AND COMMERCIAL USES.
20:16:59 SHOWN HERE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FACING SOUTHWEST TERRITO AND
20:17:03 THE INTERSECTION OF WEST HORATIO AND SOUTH LINCOLN AVENUE.
20:17:10 FURTHER WEST, IT SHOWS THE EXISTING BUILDING INCORPORATED
20:17:18 INTO THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
20:17:24 SHOWN HERE IS A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE FACING ON THE
20:17:29 LEFT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN FACING WEST ALONG WEST HORATIO
20:17:35 STREET.
20:17:36 SHOWN HERE IS THE PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON THE LEFT
20:17:39 SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN, NORTH ALONG SOUTH LINCOLN AVENUE.
20:17:46 AGAIN, THE INTERSECTION OF WEST HORATIO STREET AND SOUTH
20:17:52 LINCOLN.
20:17:55 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
20:17:58 APPLICATION AND FINDS THE OVERALL REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
20:18:05 PLEASE REFER TO DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, TRANSPORTATION AND
20:18:08 NATURAL RESOURCES COMMENTS FOR OVERALL INCONSISTENCY
20:18:11 FINDING.
20:18:12 IF COUNCIL GRANTS THE REQUESTED WAIVERS BASED ON THE WAIVER
20:18:15 JUSTIFICATION BY THE APPLICANT, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE
20:18:19 SITE PLAN MUST BE COMPLETED IN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
20:18:22 READING OF THE ORDINANCE AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET.
20:18:26 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
20:18:27 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
20:18:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
20:18:33 WE WILL GO TO THE APPLICANT.
20:18:34 >> JONATHAN MOORE, 13014 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
20:18:49 I ALSO HAVE ANDREW PUPKE WITH ME.
20:18:56 FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF TAMPA. DON'T WORRY, ONLY THE
20:19:00 PASTOR AND I WILL BE SPEAKING BUT THEY WANTED TO BE HERE TO
20:19:02 HAVE OUR BACK.
20:19:03 I ALSO HAVE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER DAVID BELL WITH LANDMARK
20:19:05 ENGINEERING ONLINE AND RICKY PETERIKA FROM DARK MOSS,
20:19:09 ARBORIST CONSULTANTS ONLINE.
20:19:13 THEY HAVE REGISTERED TO SPEAK IF NEEDED AND I BELIEVE I SAW
20:19:16 THEM ON THE VOODOO ZOOM THING.
20:19:19 SO WE ARE THE AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR FIRST PRESB IN THE MATTER
20:19:23 BEFORE YOU WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF SEVEN WAIVERS UNDER A
20:19:25 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT REZONE.
20:19:26 THE WAIVERS REPRESENT CONFORMING A PROPERTY HISTORICALLY
20:19:32 USED FOR RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.
20:19:33 THERE HAS BEEN A CHURCH ON THIS PROPERTY FOR ALMOST FIFTY
20:19:38 YEARS.
20:19:39 TO BE COMPLIANT WITH CURRENT CODES AND ALLOWING THE CHURCH
20:19:42 TO CONSTRUCT THE INTENDED SANCTUARY WITHOUT ADVERSE IMPACT
20:19:46 TO ITS MISSION FOR ON-SITE PARKING.
20:19:49 IF I CAN ASK BRIAN AND THE GREAT CTTV TEAM TO PUT UP THE
20:19:54 PowerPoint, I THINK WE SENT.
20:20:01 MAYBE?
20:20:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PowerPoint PRESENTATION?
20:20:08 >> IF NOT I HAVE PRINTED COPIES I CAN PUT ON OUR --
20:20:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CTTV, DO WE HAVE HIS PRESENTATION?
20:20:23 >> IT'S ALL RIGHT.
20:20:29 I DON'T WANT TO WASTE TIME.
20:20:31 I WILL PUT THE PRINTED COPY UP ON THE OVERHEAD, IF I CAN DO
20:20:34 THAT.
20:20:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WILL BE FINE, SIR.
20:20:36 >> I WOULD NOW LIKE TO INTRODUCE PASTOR FIFTHS CONNOR TO
20:20:43 PRESENT A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE CHURCH AND ITS MISS, FIRST
20:20:47 PREZ TAMPA.
20:20:49 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT, ALLOWING
20:20:52 US TO BE WITH YOU, PROUD TO BE THE SECOND LONGEST PASTOR,
20:20:56 TENURED PRACTICE OF FIRST PRESB IN 38 YEARS OF GREAT MISSION
20:21:02 AND HISTORY IN TAMPA.
20:21:03 WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS PART OF OUR HISTORY.
20:21:05 WE WERE A FOUNDING CHURCH IN WHAT NOW IS METROPOLITAN
20:21:07 MINISTRIES AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THAT.
20:21:09 WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN DOING GOOD THINGS IN THE CITY SINCE
20:21:13 INCEPTION.
20:21:13 THIS LOCATION WILL BE ABOUT THE FIFTH OR SIXTH, CHURCH, WE
20:21:18 ARE NOT SURE, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO SELL OUR PROPERTY DOWNTOWN
20:21:21 AT 412 ZACK STREET.
20:21:23 WE WERE LANDLOCKED.
20:21:25 WE HAD LITERALLY ZERO PARKING.
20:21:27 SO WE ARE EXUBERANT.
20:21:29 THESE FOLKS BEHIND ME ARE ALL LEADERS AND THEY ARE EXCITED.
20:21:31 WE ARE GOING TO DO GREAT THINGS AS GOOD NEIGHBORS.
20:21:35 WE ARE GOING TO MAKE OUR FACILITY AVAILABLE FOR FAMILIES
20:21:38 WITH CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
20:21:40 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PLAYGROUND OUTSIDE SO FAMILIES CAN
20:21:43 USE IT IN THE AFTERNOONS.
20:21:46 WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
20:21:47 WE REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEFORE THE OFFICIAL
20:21:50 MAILING AND HAD A MEETING AT THE CHURCH TO WELCOME OUR
20:21:53 NEIGHBORS AND INVITE THEM INTO THE LIFE OF WHAT WE ARE
20:21:56 DOING.
20:21:56 THERE'S GRINS ON THE FACE OF EVERYBODY BEHIND ME BECAUSE WE
20:21:59 ARE EXCITED.
20:22:00 WE CAN PARK CARS.
20:22:01 WE CAN DO THINGS.
20:22:02 WE CAN MAKE THINGS HAPPEN AT THE CHURCH.
20:22:06 AND REACH OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND EXTEND OURSELVES
20:22:09 WITH THE HAND OF GRACE AND LOVE AND WHAT WE ARE ALL ABOUT.
20:22:12 SO THANK YOU FOR -- WE HUMBLY ASK YOU TO APPROVE OUR
20:22:17 REQUEST.
20:22:17 THANK YOU.
20:22:18 >> I WILL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE SLIDES.
20:22:31 ANDREW, DO YOU WANT TO COME AND HELP ME FLIP?
20:22:34 SO THE CHURCH HAS EXISTED ON THIS PROPERTY SINCE 1960.
20:22:39 FIRST PRES REMODELED ONES OF THE EXISTING TO FIRST SERVICE
20:22:44 AND INTERIM SANCTUARY.
20:22:46 THE USE WILL TRANSITION TO CHILDREN'S MINISTRY AND COMMUNITY
20:22:49 ENGAGEMENT.
20:22:50 THE FORMER SANCTUARY DID NOT FIT FIRST PRESBYTERIAN'S
20:22:54 MISSION AND VISION FOR THE FUTURE AND WAS RAISED TO ALLOW
20:22:57 FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SANCTUARY.
20:23:01 APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED WAIVERS WILL ALLOW FOR THE
20:23:03 CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW 20,856 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WHICH
20:23:08 INCLUDES THE SANCTUARY AND A TWO-STORY GATHERING SPACE THAT
20:23:11 CONNECTS THE SANCTUARY TO THE CHILDREN'S MINISTRY BUILDINGS.
20:23:16 THE GATHERINGS HAVE A WELCOMING AREA, RESTROOMS, CHURCH
20:23:21 OFFICE ON THE FIRST FLOOR, CLASSROOM AND MEETING SPACES ON
20:23:23 THE SECOND FLOOR, THE SANCTUARY WILL HAVE 320 SEATS, THE
20:23:27 CAMPUS WILL HAVE 100 PARKING SPACES.
20:23:31 NEXT SLIDE.
20:23:33 28 ON-SITE TREES WILL REMAIN INCLUDING 12 LIVE OAKS, SEVEN
20:23:38 TREES ARE PLANNED TO BE REMOVED.
20:23:41 THE NEW CONSTRUCTION ENCROACHES INTO THE TREE LOCATION.
20:23:45 THE SMALLEST AMOUNT OF ALTERATION WE CAN ACCOMPLISH TO
20:23:49 RETAIN THE TREES MAKES THE SANCTUARY BASICALLY UNUSABLE IN
20:23:53 SOME ALTERNATE DESIGNS THAT WE'LL SHOW YOU.
20:23:57 THE DESIGN ALTERNATE THAT WE HAVE DONE SHOWS A LITTLE NOTCH
20:24:02 IN THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND CORNER.
20:24:06 THE DESIGN ALTERNATIVE RESULTS IN THE LOSS OF FIVE
20:24:09 ADDITIONAL TREES ALONG WITH 30 PARKING SPACES AND RELOCATES
20:24:13 THE CHURCH MUCH CLOSER TO THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.
20:24:16 THE CHURCH CANNOT MEET PARKING REQUIREMENTS WITH THE LOSS OF
20:24:20 30 PARKING SPACES.
20:24:22 THAT WAS ACTUALLY THIS ONE.
20:24:27 GO TO THE ELEVATION.
20:24:28 AND JUST THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.
20:24:36 AND FINAL SITE PLAN, THE TREE SURVEY.
20:24:39 I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANY COMMENTS UNLESS THERE ARE
20:24:41 QUESTIONS.
20:24:42 AGAIN, WE HAVE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER, DAVID BELL, AND ARBORIST
20:24:47 RICKY PETERIKA ON THE INTERWEB FOR ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
20:24:52 AGAIN WE APPRECIATE STAFF'S HELP AND GUIDANCE THROUGH ALL OF
20:24:56 THIS.
20:24:57 AND WE APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S TIME.
20:24:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
20:25:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT.
20:25:04 I THINK IT'S PRETTY UNFAIR THAT THEY BRING THEIR FIRST
20:25:06 WITNESS WHO HAS A CLOSE PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD TO
20:25:12 TRY TO SWAY US.
20:25:13 NO, NOTHING FURTHER, MR. CHAIRMAN.
20:25:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
20:25:22 QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
20:25:24 ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
20:25:36 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: THEY DON'T WANT TO SPEAK SO THERE'S NO ONE
20:25:38 ELSE HERE.
20:25:38 [ LAUGHTER ]
20:25:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
20:25:45 >>THE CLERK: YES, WE HAVE MICHAEL SWEENEY.
20:25:58 MICHAEL, IF YOU CAN PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
20:26:01 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
20:26:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, SIR.
20:26:12 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
20:26:19 >> I WILL.
20:26:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
20:26:26 I AM ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CHURCH FOR ABOUT THE PAST SIX
20:26:29 YEARS, AND THIS IS A BIG MOVE FOR US AND IT'S VERY EXCITING.
20:26:33 I THINK FOR WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS GOING TO COMPLETELY
20:26:37 REVITALIZE THIS LOT THAT'S BEEN KIND OF STAGNANT FOR THE
20:26:41 LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
20:26:42 SO I AM HOPING THAT YOU WILL APPROVE THIS.
20:26:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
20:26:49 ANYONE ELSE REGISTERED TO SPEAK?
20:26:51 >>THE CLERK: THAT WAS IT.
20:26:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO CLOSE.
20:26:56 SECOND BY MIRANDA.
20:26:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
20:27:00 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
20:27:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
20:27:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:27:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
20:27:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
20:27:06 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER ABSENT AT VOTE.
20:27:09 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I MISS SOMETHING, SOMEBODY CAN ADD IN.
20:27:15 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE REZ 22-22, ORDINANCE BEING
20:27:19 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
20:27:22 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3302 WEST
20:27:26 HORATIO STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
20:27:28 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
20:27:30 CLASSIFICATION RM-24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED
20:27:33 DEVELOPMENT, PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY, PROVIDING AN
20:27:36 EFFECTIVE DATE, INCLUDING THE REVISION SHEET, THE WAIVERS,
20:27:45 AND THE APPLICANT HAS MET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE
20:27:50 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AS WELL AS CONDITIONS
20:27:53 SHOWING THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SITE PLAN, CITY
20:27:56 CODE, THE REQUESTED WAIVERS DO NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT HEALTH,
20:28:03 SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE.
20:28:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
20:28:06 ROLL CALL.
20:28:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
20:28:10 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
20:28:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
20:28:12 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:28:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
20:28:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
20:28:20 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
20:28:22 VOTE.
20:28:23 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 7, 2022 AT
20:28:27 9:30 A.M.
20:28:28 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
20:28:32 HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
20:28:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
20:28:34 WE HAVE COME TO THAT HOUR.
20:28:36 MR. SHELBY, ANYTHING, SIR?
20:28:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NONE FOR ME, THANK YOU, SIR.
20:28:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA?
20:28:43 >>LUIS VIERA: ME?
20:28:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
20:28:46 >>LUIS VIERA: OH, YES, SIR.
20:28:47 THANK YOU, SIR.
20:28:48 A COUPLE, IF I MAY.
20:28:49 I SENT A MOTION TO BE DEDICATED TO THE LATE DR. PIZANO,
20:29:02 BE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF IN WORKING WITH THE DESIGN --
20:29:08 [~DISTORTION~] AND MAY 19th CITY COUNCIL MEETING REPORT
20:29:13 BACK.
20:29:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
20:29:15 ROLL CALL.
20:29:15 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
20:29:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
20:29:22 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:29:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
20:29:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
20:29:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
20:29:27 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
20:29:30 VOTE.
20:29:30 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
20:29:33 NEXT, IF I MAY, I WANT TO DO A COMMENDATION THAT I CAN HAND
20:29:39 OVER FOR STATE TROOPER TONI SCHUCK, 26th YEAR AS FLORIDA
20:29:47 HIGHWAY, POSITIONED HER VEHICLE TO STOP A DRUNK DRIVER.
20:29:54 I AM GOING TO MEET UP WITH OFFICER MALONE NOT NEXT WEEK BUT
20:30:00 THE WEEK THEREAFTER TO HAND IT OVER.
20:30:02 I WILL NOT BE GIVING IT TO THE TROOPER.
20:30:04 SHE'S OBVIOUSLY IN MEDICAL CONDITION.
20:30:06 I AM GOING TO RELY UPON THEM TO GIVE IT TO HER.
20:30:09 BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA SHOULD
20:30:12 SALUTE.
20:30:15 >> SECOND.
20:30:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
20:30:19 ROLL CALL.
20:30:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
20:30:22 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:30:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
20:30:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
20:30:28 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
20:30:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
20:30:30 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
20:30:32 VOTE.
20:30:33 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
20:30:35 AND --
20:30:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONE SECOND.
20:30:40 YOU SAID YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE THE COMMENDATION, SOMEBODY
20:30:42 HAS TO GIVE TO THE TROOPER?
20:30:44 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:30:46 AND WHAT I WILL DO IS I WILL SEND OUT THE INFORMATION TO
20:30:48 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IN CASE PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE THEIR
20:30:52 PRESENCE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
20:30:53 IT'S JUST THAT RIGHT NOW, SHE'S SEEKING MEDICAL CARE,
20:30:57 ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
20:30:58 SO IN OTHER WORDS THEY ARE NOT COMING HERE, AND I AM NOT
20:31:02 GOING TO BE MEETING THE TROOPER UNDER ANY FORESEEABLE
20:31:06 CIRCUMSTANCES.
20:31:07 DOES ANYBODY NEED CLARIFICATION ON THAT?
20:31:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF YOU CAN'T DO IT, I THINK THIS COUNCIL
20:31:13 IS GOING TO GIVE SOMEBODY TO A TROOPER LIKE THAT, I AM GOING
20:31:17 TO THE HOSPITAL GIVING OUT AWARDS, AND I THINK IT'S MORE
20:31:23 SYMBOLIC COMING FROM TO US ACTUALLY GIVE IT TO THE TROOPER.
20:31:26 SO IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT I WE BE HAPPY OR BRING SOMEBODY ELSE
20:31:29 FROM THE COUNCIL.
20:31:30 BUT GET THE INFORMATION, I WILL BE HAPPY TO.
20:31:34 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW WHAT, MR. CHAIRMAN?
20:31:36 IF I MAY, I WILL CALL UP MS. MALONE ON THAT, AND FORMALLY
20:31:45 HAND IT OVER TO HER BUT WE CAN DO SOMETHING MORE FORMAL.
20:31:48 LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, IF I MAY.
20:31:52 I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY EXPECTATIONS THAT WE --
20:31:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOT A PROBLEM.
20:32:00 MR. CARLSON.
20:32:01 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK IF YOU IF IT'S APPROPRIATE AT SOME
20:32:05 POINT, IF THE TROOPER WOULD LIKE, WOULD BE GREAT TO
20:32:08 RECOGNIZE HER EITHER BY ZOOM OR IN PERSON, BECAUSE WE HAD WE
20:32:17 HAD AN OFFICER, AND THIS OFFICER PUT HER LIFE ON THE LINE
20:32:25 AND SURVIVED, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE REMEMBER THE DEEDS
20:32:32 AND THE RISKS THAT THESE OFFICERS TAKE EVERY DAY.
20:32:34 SO IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED, LEAVE IT UP TO HER,
20:32:39 BUT IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED PUBLICLY, I THINK WE
20:32:42 SHOULD ACCOMMODATE HER BY ZOOM OR IN PERSON AT SOME POINT IN
20:32:46 THE FUTURE.
20:32:47 >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY.
20:32:48 I AGREE 110%.
20:32:49 I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO HER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
20:32:54 BUT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE CONTACT AS WELL, PLEASE FEEL
20:32:58 FREE.
20:32:59 BUT I --
20:33:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA?
20:33:05 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, IF I MAY.
20:33:08 I WANT TO GIVE A COMMENDATION -- WE DO ONE EVERY YEAR, A
20:33:15 PLAY PUT ON BY PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
20:33:17 I'M MAKING THAT MOTION.
20:33:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
20:33:22 MR. SHELBY?
20:33:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. VIERA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU
20:33:26 WANTED TO BRING UP TONIGHT WITH REGARD TO THAT, WITH REGARD
20:33:28 TO THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE FOR THE 24th?
20:33:34 DID YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT TONIGHT?
20:33:36 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
20:33:38 THAT WAS MY LAST.
20:33:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION WHICH MR. VIERA, SECOND BY MR.
20:33:43 MANISCALCO.
20:33:43 ROLL CALL.
20:33:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
20:33:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
20:33:49 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:33:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
20:33:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
20:33:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
20:33:53 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
20:33:55 VOTE.
20:33:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. AILEEN, GOOD NIGHT.
20:34:00 TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF.
20:34:01 >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY, IF I MAY, SIR, MR. SHELBY HAD
20:34:05 MENTIONED MEETING ON CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
20:34:08 A MOTION FOR AN ATTORNEY FOR THE CRB BOARD, FOR STAFF TO
20:34:13 PRESENT AN ORDINANCE ON THAT, WHICH APPEARS THAT'S GOING TO
20:34:16 BE -- OUR STAFF IS VERY BUSY.
20:34:19 WHAT I WANT TO DO IS REPLACE THAT WITH A MOTION TO BE
20:34:22 CONSIDERED BY CITY COUNCIL THAT DAY.
20:34:30 FOR THAT DATE.
20:34:32 BECAUSE I STILL WANT IT TO BE ON THE DOCKET.
20:34:34 BUT IT JUST CHANGES THE LANGUAGE, THAT IT'S NOT PRESENTED IN
20:34:39 THE ORDINANCE.
20:34:39 SO I WANTED TO REVISE THAT IF I MAY.
20:34:42 I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
20:34:46 I HAD DISCUSSION WITH MR. SHELBY.
20:34:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THOUGHT ALL CHARTERS -- I'M CONFUSED
20:34:51 WHAT HE'S ASKING.
20:34:52 >> RATHER THAN COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE BECAUSE I HAD
20:34:57 CONVERSATION WITH LEGAL, AND FRANKLY, THE CONCERN, MY
20:35:03 CONCERN WAS THAT IT IS A MORE INVOLVED PROCESS RELATIVE TO
20:35:09 THE CREATION OF THAT SORT OF ORDINANCE RELATIVE TO THE CRB,
20:35:14 AND WITH THE FACILITATOR, I'M CONCERNED THAT THAT WOULD TAKE
20:35:20 A PROCESS OUT OF WHAT THE FACILITATOR HAS PLANNED.
20:35:24 SO I ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH MS. ZELMAN, AND I
20:35:27 ALSO HAD TO SPEAK TO MS. PETTIS-MACKLE, AND THERE ARE OTHER
20:35:33 OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT TO COME UP.
20:35:35 THERE'S GOING TO BE A REPORT COMING TO COUNCIL IN THE NEXT
20:35:38 COUPLE OF MONTHS FROM THE CRB, ITS FIRST ANNUAL REPORT UNDER
20:35:43 THE NEW ORDINANCE.
20:35:44 SO RATHER THAN HAVE THIS AS A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THE
20:35:47 WORKSHOP WITH THE FACILITATOR BEING HERE, I WOULD ASK THAT
20:35:50 IT JUST BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF IT SO WE CAN PICK IT UP
20:35:54 FROM THERE, TO ROLL IT IN.
20:35:55 >>LUIS VIERA: SO IF I MAY, SIR, THE INTENT MIGHT HAVE
20:35:58 MOTION IS TO KEEP IT THERE BUT JUST -- THEY HAD TO HAVE AN
20:36:02 ORDINANCE PRESENTED TO US THAT DAY.
20:36:04 THAT'S IT.
20:36:05 WE DISCUSS IT.
20:36:07 IT'S SET.
20:36:08 SET IN STONE.
20:36:09 THAT WAS MY INTENT WHEN I MADE IT.
20:36:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON?
20:36:14 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO PUT THAT THERE,
20:36:17 BECAUSE WHEN WE SCHEDULED THIS DISCUSSION ORIGINALLY, PART
20:36:22 OF IT WAS ABOUT THE CRB, AND THE PUBLIC IS CIRCULATING
20:36:30 DISCUSS ABOUT CRB.
20:36:31 SINCE THEN WE HAVE ADDED SEVERAL OTHER THINGS NOT RELATED TO
20:36:34 CRB, AND ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT CAME UP ABOUT THE CRB
20:36:38 WAS SUBPOENA POWER, AND SEVERAL ATTORNEYS OUTSIDE THE CITY
20:36:43 HAVE SAID THAT CITY COUNCIL ALREADY HAS SUBPOENA POWER AND
20:36:46 THEY HAVE SHOWN TO THE ME IN THE CHARTER.
20:36:48 AND SO I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU ALL TO TALK TO OUTSIDE
20:36:53 ATTORNEYS ABOUT THAT.
20:36:55 I DON'T SEE A NEED TO ADD SUBPOENA POWER IN THE CHARTER FOR
20:36:58 CITY COUNCIL IF IT'S ALREADY THERE.
20:37:00 THE OPINION BEFORE WAS WE COULDN'T DELEGATE -- DON'T HAVE
20:37:05 IT.
20:37:05 SO I THINK THE UNDERLYING ISSUE FOR A LOT OF THINGS IS WE
20:37:08 NEED TO TAKE A CONFLICT AWAY FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
20:37:10 INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM ANSWER TO THREE DIFFERENT CLIENTS, WE
20:37:14 NEED TO CHANGE THAT SO THERE'S NO CONFLICT.
20:37:17 BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT ON THAT DAY.
20:37:19 THANK YOU.
20:37:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE WHERE YOU ARE GOING.
20:37:22 YOU ARE RIGHT, THE CHARTER DOES HAVE SUBPOENA POWER, NOT FOR
20:37:28 POLICE BUT IT DOES GIVE SUBPOENA POWER, SO A
20:37:30 CLARIFICATION --
20:37:32 >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEY CAN SUBPOENA ALL OTHER PEOPLE
20:37:38 AROUND IT.
20:37:40 SUBPOENA INFORMATION.
20:37:40 BUT THAT'S WHY THERE WILL BE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT
20:37:43 WILL BE DISAPPOINTED IF WE DON'T DIRECTLY ADDRESS THAT BUT
20:37:45 IT'S ALREADY IN THE CHARTER SO WHY SHOULD THE INTERPRETATION
20:37:49 THAT I DISAGREE WITH, NOT THAT WE NEED TO ADD.
20:37:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AGREE.
20:37:54 MR. VIERA, YOUR MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR.
20:37:57 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
20:37:58 ROLL CALL.
20:37:58 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
20:38:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
20:38:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:38:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
20:38:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
20:38:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
20:38:08 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
20:38:11 VOTE.
20:38:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE OUGHT TO DO A ROLL CALL --
20:38:15 >>LUIS VIERA: I AM GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT.
20:38:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL FIND OUT HOW OTHER JURISDICTIONS DO
20:38:21 IT BUT CERTAINLY FOR THE HEARINGS.
20:38:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.
20:38:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOTHING SIR.
20:38:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
20:38:29 >>BILL CARLSON: THREE THINGS IF I COULD.
20:38:33 I HAVE GOT A FORM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK TO BE RECEIVED
20:38:37 AND FILED, FOR LAST THURSDAY'S ITEM, REZ 21-123, INVOLVED
20:38:47 PROPERTY RELATED TO THE METHODIST CHURCH, AND MY PR FIRM
20:38:51 DOES WORK RELATED TO IT SO I HAD TO RECUSE MYSELF.
20:38:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
20:38:58 ALL IN FAVOR?
20:38:59 OPPOSED?
20:38:59 MOTION GRANTED.
20:39:00 >>BILL CARLSON: LET ME TURN THIS OUT AND YOU CAN TELL ME
20:39:05 WHETHER YOU WANT TO VOTE ON IT OR NOT.
20:39:07 BUT WITH THIS SO-CALLED DON'T SAY GAY THING IN FRONT OF THE
20:39:12 GOVERNOR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE PRESS TODAY,
20:39:15 THE CEO OF DISNEY PUSHED BACK AFTER A LOT OF PRESSURE AND
20:39:19 SAID HE WANTS THE GOVERNOR TO VETO IT.
20:39:21 THE GOVERNOR PUSHED BACK AND SAID WE DON'T NEED WORLD
20:39:28 COMPANIES.
20:39:28 THIS COUNCIL AND THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION FELT VERY
20:39:33 STRONGLY ABOUT PROTECTING HUMAN RIGHTS AND I DON'T THINK WE
20:39:37 SHOULD PASS SOME LONG DOCUMENT, BUT LET ME THROW THIS OUT
20:39:40 BEFORE AND YOU TELL ME WHETHER YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THIS OR
20:39:43 NOT.
20:39:43 BUT I THINK WE SHOULD PASS JUST A SHORT STATEMENT THAT SAYS
20:39:47 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL BELIEVES IN FREE SPEECH AND THE
20:39:49 PROTECTION OF HUMAN RIGHTS, THEREFORE WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE
20:39:54 PARENTAL RIGHTS AND EDUCATION/DON'T SAY GAY BILL IN THE
20:39:58 FLORIDA LEGISLATURE.
20:39:59 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
20:40:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
20:40:04 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SECOND THAT BUT ONLY WITH THE
20:40:06 STIPULATION, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THAT -- [DISTORTION]. I'M
20:40:11 JOKING.
20:40:12 BUT I'LL SECOND THAT, IF I MAY.
20:40:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF VIERA WRITES IT, IT'LL BE A NOVEL.
20:40:14 [LAUGHTER]
20:40:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
20:40:39 >>BILL CARLSON: IS ANYBODY OPPOSED TO VOTING ON THIS?
20:40:44 SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
20:40:45 ALL IN FAVOR?
20:40:47 OPPOSED?
20:40:47 MOTION GRANTED.
20:40:48 WHAT ELSE?
20:40:48 >>BILL CARLSON: THE LAST THING, AND AGAIN, YOU ALL CAN TELL
20:40:52 ME IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THIS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF
20:40:55 CONFUSION IN THE PUBLIC, AND WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF CALLS
20:40:57 AND E-MAILS ABOUT THE TITLES, DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE NOT
20:41:02 YET CONFIRMED BY CITY COUNCIL.
20:41:03 SO I WILL THROW THIS OUT AND YOU TELL ME IF YOU WANT TO VOTE
20:41:06 OR NOT.
20:41:07 I WOULD MOVE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO APPEAR
20:41:10 BEFORE COUNCIL ON MARCH 17th BEFORE THE VOTE ON THE
20:41:12 POLICE CHIEF NOMINEE TO EXPLAIN THEIR INTERPRETATION IN THE
20:41:16 TAMPA CHARTER WITH REGARD TO THE TITLE OF DEPARTMENT HEADS
20:41:19 THAT HAVE BEEN NOMINATED BY THE MAYOR BUT NOT YET VOTED ON
20:41:23 BY CITY COUNCIL.
20:41:32 IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE SHOULD BRING UP THIS ISSUE BECAUSE WE
20:41:36 ARE GOING TO BE VOTING ON THE CHARTER FANNED THERE'S
20:41:38 CONFUSION, IF WE AGREE, IT IS THEIR INTERPRETATION, THEN,
20:41:46 BUT IF BEING WE DISAGREE IT WOULD REQUIRE TWEAKING OF THE
20:41:50 CHARTER.
20:41:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK WE NEED THAT ANYWAY.
20:41:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WHAT YOU ARE ASKING IS TO CLARIFY
20:41:57 HOW ONE TRANSITIONS FROM INTERIM TO ACTING TO, YOU KNOW,
20:42:03 PERMANENT POSITION WITHOUT A COUNCIL VOTE?
20:42:06 IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ASKING?
20:42:10 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
20:42:10 AS FAR AS I REMEMBER RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO DEPARTMENTS
20:42:13 DEPARTMENT HEADS, AND NOTHING AGAINST THEM, BUT THEY ARE
20:42:15 BOTH USING THE TITLE.
20:42:16 IT DOESN'T SAY INTERIM OR NOMINEE.
20:42:18 AND THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE LEGAL INTERPRETATION OF
20:42:21 CHARTER?
20:42:21 I THINK THE CHARTER IS VAGUE.
20:42:23 BUT IF YOUR CLIENT IS CITY COUNCIL AND YOU PROBABLY WOULD
20:42:29 SAY -- SUGGEST THAT IT SAY NOMINEE OR SUBJECT TO
20:42:34 CONFIRMATION.
20:42:34 IF YOUR CLIENT IS THE MAYOR, WOULD YOU SAY THAT IT'S JUST A
20:42:37 TITLE.
20:42:38 AND A LAWYER COULD INTERPRET IT EITHER WAY DEPENDING ON WHO
20:42:44 THE CLIENT HE'S REPRESENTING.
20:42:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHY DON'T WE HOLD THAT OFF UNTIL THE
20:42:48 WORKSHOP?
20:42:49 THE CITY ATTORNEY IS GOING TO BE HERE ANYWAY.
20:42:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE TALKED ABOUT INTERPRETATION OF CERTAIN
20:42:54 ISSUES.
20:42:55 THAT DEFINITELY IS ONE OF THEM.
20:42:57 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
20:42:58 I'M HAPPY TO LEAVE IT TILL THE CHARTER REVIEW.
20:43:03 THERE ARE CERTAINLY A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
20:43:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT ONE.
20:43:08 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S ALL.
20:43:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING.
20:43:10 THANK YOU, CHAIR.
20:43:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE SAID ENOUGH.
20:43:15 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO
20:43:20 TECHNICIAN 3 FOR THE CITY TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER.
20:43:22 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION ON TUESDAY, APRIL 12,
20:43:25 2022.
20:43:26 MR. TAYLOR IS RETIRING FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA AFTER 25
20:43:31 YEARS, HONORING HIS COMMITMENT TO MAKING THE CITY ENJOYABLE
20:43:33 FOR MOTORISTS AND PEDESTRIANS.
20:43:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
20:43:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
20:43:42 ALL IN FAVOR?
20:43:43 OPPOSED?
20:43:43 MOTION GRANTED.
20:43:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND THE OTHER SIX I WILL SAVE FOR A SLOW
20:43:47 DAY.
20:43:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOTCHA.
20:43:52 I HAVE ONE. A MEMO RECEIVED FROM CAROL GORDON IN REFERENCE
20:43:58 TO ONE OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
20:44:00 I SUBMITTED THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME FOR EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH
20:44:04 TO MR. STEVE SIMON.
20:44:06 SO I DON'T THINK I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON IT.
20:44:20 IT'S IN THE BOX.
20:44:32 JUST A MOMENT.
20:44:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, ARE YOU READY?
20:44:48 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE A NOMINATION FOR
20:44:52 EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH/COMMENDATION FOR CHRIS BEAM AN OF
20:44:58 ATLU.
20:45:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
20:45:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
20:45:09 OPPOSED?
20:45:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
20:45:10 >> MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
20:45:17 >> ALL IN FAVOR?
20:45:19 OPPOSED?
20:45:20 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
20:45:22
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