TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MARCH 10, 2022
5:01 PM.
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17:03:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE EVENING SESSION WILL COME TO
ORDER FOR MARCH 10, 2022.
5:01.
ROLL CALL.
17:03:21 >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
17:03:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
17:03:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
GLAD TO BE HERE.
17:03:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.
17:03:30 >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
17:03:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
17:03:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.
17:03:39 >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A QUORUM.
17:03:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. VIERA IS VIRTUAL.
17:03:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I BEGIN WITH MY
COMMENTS FOR THIS EVENING.
GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS, MEMBERS OF PUBLIC,
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
TONIGHT'S QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
AS YOU HEARD IS CONDUCTED WITH A LIVE IN-PERSON QUORUM
PRESENT IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS PRESENT.
HOWEVER, IN LIGHT OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND GUIDANCE IN
EFFECT, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE THE ABILITY TO
PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY THROUGH VIDEO TELECONFERENCING AS
COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY.
THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA WITH VIEW ON SPECTRUM, 640.
CHANNEL 15 WITH THE FRONTIER AND ON THE INTERNET AT
TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
NOW THERE HAVE BEEN WAYS THROUGH PEOPLE -- WAYS FOR
PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN TONIGHT'S HEARING AND THOSE
HAVE BEEN SET FORTH IN THE NOTICE OF THE HEARING AND ON
THE AGENDA.
AND IT ALSO PARTICULARLY ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE
AT TAMPA.GOV/QUASI.
OR ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEB PAGE TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.
PREREGISTRATION WAS REQUIRED AND, AGAIN, THOSE
INSTRUCTIONS ARE ON THE CITY'S WEB PAGE.
IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE VIA CMT, YOU MUST HAVE ACCESS
TO A DEVICE SUCH AS A TABLET OR COMPUTER EQUIPPED WITH
A CAMERA AND MICROPHONE THAT WILL ENABLE TO YOU BE
SCENE BY VIDEO AND HEARD ON AUDIO BY THE CITY COUNCIL
AND ALL OTHER PARTICIPANTS.
FOR THESE SPECIFIC TWO-WAY VIRTUAL MEETING FORMAT.
CELL PHONES AND SMARTPHONES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE AS THEY
WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO SHARE YOUR CAMERA WHEN CONNECTED.
ALSO, COUNCIL, THERE HAVE BEEN WAYS TO COMMUNICATE VIA
E-MAIL OR VIA WEB PAGE AND THOSE INSTRUCTIONS ARE ON
THE WEB SITE.
THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO CMT AND WHICH TO APPEAR
IN PERSON ON OLD CITY HALL, WE HAVE FACILITIES ON
SECOND FLOOR 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND THIS, AGAIN, IS
ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED BY E-MAIL, AND WE ASK THAT
THEY BE RECEIVED 4 HOURS IN ADVANCE TO BE UPLOADED AND
AVAILABLE.
AND ALL THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE LOCATED IN THE NOTICE AND
I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL -- ONE LAST THING TO SAY.
THE MEETING PLATFORM, IF YOU ARE A VIRTUAL PARTICIPANT
HAS A CHAT BOX.
PLEASE DO NOT USE THE CHAT BOX FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN
TECHNICAL ISSUES.
DO NOT USE THEM TO COMMUNICATE AND DO NOT USE THEM TO
COMMUNICATE WITH CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ANY OF
HEARINGS.
A REMINDER TO CITY COUNCIL THAT IF YOU RECEIVE ANY TEXT
AND RELATED TO TONIGHT'S HEARING WE STOP THE HEARING
AND YOU DISCLOSE THEM.
DISCLOSE ANY EX-EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION FOR FLORIDA LAW.
17:07:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE TO ADOPT.
17:07:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE.
17:07:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SECOND.
17:07:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED.
MOTION GRANTED.
MR. SHELBY, BEFORE WE START WITH OUR MAIN AGENDA, THE
ADMINISTRATION HAS ASKED FOR A WALK-ON ITEM.
ENTERTAIN A WALK-ON ITEM FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
ADMINISTRATOR.
17:07:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.
17:07:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
17:07:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED.
MOTION GRANTED.
MISS TRAVIS, THE FLOOR FOR WALK-ON ITEM.
MADAM CLERK, DO YOU HAVE THE WALK-ON ITEM.
17:07:37 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
NICOLE TRAVIS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL.
WE APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING US TO COME BEFORE YOU THIS
EVENING TO REQUEST A $4 MILLION ALLOCATION.
COUNCIL. AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND THE WORKSHOP,
WE HEARD ABOUT.
WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT RENT STABILIZATION AND OUR
CITIZENS WANTING A MEETING HELD NOW.
COUNCIL, I THOUGHT YOU WERE VERY DIRECT IN WANTING TO
DO SOMETHING TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS IN THIS MOMENT, EVEN
UNDERSTANDING THAT POLICIES AND LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS
WERE TO COME IN THE FUTURE BUT YOU WANTED SOMETHING
NOW.
WITH THAT WE HAD A $1 MILLION ALLOCATION FOR RENTAL
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO BE ADMINISTERED AND THAT WAS
COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
WITH THAT MONEY COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND, IT ALLOWS
FOR 80% -- UP TO 140% AREA MEDIAN INCOME QUALIFIED
INDIVIDUALS TO RECEIVE RENTAL ASSISTANCE OR THEIR
DEPOSIT -- SECURITY DEPOSIT FOR RENT SINCE WE LAUNCHED
THAT PROGRAM ON MARCH 1, AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE OVER
THE LAST SEVEN DAYS.
TWO EVENINGS AGO, I GOT A CALL FROM OUR HOUSING MANAGER
THAT SAID WE HAVE OVER 300 APPLICATIONS.
KNOWING THAT THE MILLION DOLLARS WOULD BE EXPENDED AS
SOON AS WE STARTED PROCESS THOSE APPLICATIONS.
THAT EVENING THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND CHIEF FINANCIAL
OFFICERS SAT IN THE ROOM FOR HOURS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
HOW TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS AND WE HEARD FROM COUNCIL
AND RESIDENTS LOUD AND CLEAR THEY NEEDED ASSISTANCE
RIGHT NOW.
WITH THAT, WE HAVE REPRIORITIZED SOME PROJECT FUNDING
TO HAVE A $4 MILLION ALLOCATION FOR YOU TO CONTINUE TO
EXTEND THIS PROGRAM.
SINCE WE LAUNCHED THE PROGRAM ON THE FIRST AND HAD A
STRONG MEDIA PRESENCE, AT OF 9:00 THIS MORNING, OVER
900 APPLICATIONS.
WE HAVE A TEAM OF FOUR STAFF MEMBERS PROCESSING THE
APPLICATIONS AND DOING WHAT THEY CAN TO MOVE THEM AS
FAST AS POSSIBLE.
APPLICATIONS ARE -- ONCE YOU GO INTO THE PORTAL AND
SUBMIT YOUR NAME AND CONTACT INFORMATION, THERE IS
INFORMATION REQUIRED BY THE TENANT AND THE LANDLORD.
SO THE APPLICATION ISN'T NECESSARILY COMPLETE AS SOON
AS THEY FILL OUT THE INFORMATION.
SOMETIMES A GIVE AND TAKE AND WE HAVE BEEN PROCESSING
THOSE APPLICATIONS FAIRLY QUICKLY.
WITHIN SEVEN TO TEN DAYS THE LANDLORDS CAN HAVE A
CHECK.
THAT COMMITMENT IS A 12-MONTH COMMITMENT TO PAY THAT
GAP.
THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF THE BASE RENT, WHATEVER THE RENT
IS AND WHAT IT IS INCREASING TO.
THIS FUNDING IS ALLOW TO PAY FOR THAT DIFFERENCE IN
BETWEEN FOR THE 12-MONTH COMMITMENT.
I AM GRATEFULLY HAPPY TO REALLOCATE THAT MONEY TO HELP
OUR RESIDENTS THE NEED OUTWEIGHS OUR FINANCIAL
RESPONSIBILITIES AT THIS TIME.
WITH THE $4 MILLION, WE CONTINUE TO PROCESS THE
APPLICATION AND ASK FOR YOUR FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION.
17:10:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:10:57 >>BILL CARLSON:
I AM VERY GLAD YOU ARE HERE AND I
APPRECIATE THE COLLEGIALITY SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN HERE
AND ESPECIALLY IN WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
AS I STARTED TO TELL YOU ON WAY IN, I AM VERY
FRUSTRATED BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE MEDIA COVERAGE OF
THIS, CITY COUNCIL HAS DONE NOTHING TO ADDRESS THESE
ISSUES.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, YOU TALK ABOUT COLLABORATION AND
EITHER -- THE WAY IT GOES THROUGH THE COMMUNICATION
DEPARTMENT OR THE WAY IT COMES OUT IS THAT IT IS THE
MAYOR'S IDEA, THE MAYOR'S T-3 PROGRAM.
THE CITY COUNCIL WAS NOT WILL BE A RATING.
HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
AND DIDN'T LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC.
I THINK WE WERE TRYING COLLABORATE FOR THREE YEARS AND
COLLABORATED AND SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED AND THE
COMMUNITY FEELS THE ADMINISTRATION IS BEING DIVISIVE
TOWARD CITY COUNCIL AND ATTACKING CITY COUNCIL AND THEY
WANT THE DEVISIVENESS TO END.
I AM JUST PLEADING WITH YOU TO PLEASE -- IF A PRESS
RELEASE GOES OUT AND PRESS CONFERENCE AND CITY COUNCIL
IS NOT MENTION AND CITY COUNCIL DIDN'T DO ANYTHING,
THEN IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT COME IN HERE
TALK TO US INDIRECTLY TALKING TO ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T
GET HEARD.
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT IT VERY ELOQUENTLY, BUT I DON'T
THINK IT IS THAT HARD FOR SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNICATION
DEPARTMENT TO TALK ABOUT THAT TO THE PUBLIC AND THANK
CITY COUNCIL THE WAY YOU JUST DID SAYING THANK YOU FOR
HOLDING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC.
THE EXPERIENCE OF THE PUBLIC, THEY COME UP WITH AN
IDEA.
WE ASK FOR THE IDEA AND IT GETS CLOGGED UP IN THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT AND ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT FOR THREE TO
SIX MONTHS.
I TRIED TO GET A WORLD WAR II MONUMENT TO HONOR WORLD
WAR II VETERANS AND THREE MONTHS LATER HEARD AN ANSWER,
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
PERCEPTION TO THE PUBLIC THAT EVERYTHING THAT CITY
COUNCIL OR CITY COUNCIL THINKS IS A PRIORITY WHICH IS
COMING FROM THE PUBLIC -- NOT OUR IDEAS.
I DIDN'T COME UP WITH THE IDEA OF THE STATUE, THAT ALL
OF THAT GETS BOGGED DOWN AND THE ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T
CARE AND THE PUBLIC THINKS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS
NOT WORKING ON IT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DISCREDIT CITY
COUNCIL OR NOT ALLOW CITY COUNCIL TO GET CREDIT FOR
ANYTHING.
NOT ABOUT CREDIT BUT LISTENING FOR WHAT THE PUBLIC
WANTS AND RESPONDING TO THE WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS AND
VERY FRUSTRATING.
THIS COMMUNITY -- AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY HAD EIGHT
YEARS OF RACIST POLICIES AND OPPRESSION FROM THE
BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION AND THEY WERE HOPING TO HAVE
PEACE AND CALM AND RESPECT FROM US.
AND IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEIR VOICES ARE NOT BEING HEARD,
THEN WE ARE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE WERE.
WE NEED TO -- IT WILL TAKE DECADES TO RECOVER FROM THE
OPPRESSION OF THOSE EIGHT YEARS.
BUT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND ANNOUNCE THINGS THAT WE
HAVE DONE TOGETHER SO THAT THE PUBLIC SEES THAT WE ARE
TRYING TO DO THINGS TOGETHER.
I WOULD PLEAD WITH YOU AND THE ADMINISTRATION AND
EVERYBODY LISTENING, CAN WE PLEASE WORK TOGETHER ON
THESE THINGS?
WHY DOES EVERYTHING SAY T-3 AND NOT ANYTHING ABOUT CITY
COUNCIL.
THANK YOU.
I KNOW YOU ARE TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND I SO
APPRECIATE YOU AND I KNOW THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS TRYING
TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, BUT WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER,
PLEASE.
THE CITIZENS WANT US TO COLLABORATE.
17:13:58 >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
17:14:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ONE SECOND, MR. VIERA.
MR. DINGFELDER AND, AGAIN, TO MR. VIERA.
17:14:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
GOOD EVENING.
MISS TRAVIS, AND I WANT TO -- I ALSO WANT TO SAY HOW
GLAD WE ARE THAT YOU ARE HERE.
WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS BACKGROUND, ESPECIALLY THROUGH IN
POLK COUNTY WORKING ON THESE KIND OF ISSUES AND
AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUES AND CRA ISSUES AS WELL.
SO YOU ARE THE PERFECT PERSON FOR THIS JOB.
AND WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE HERE.
IN REGARD TO TONIGHT, THE ONE THING THINK THAT WANT TO
EMPHASIZE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT IS WATCHING, ESPECIALLY
TO THE PRESS THAT IS WATCHING, IS YOU AND I DISCUSS
THIS EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON.
IS BY MY CALCULATION, IT'S -- IT'S FANTASTIC THAT WE
STARTED WITH A MILLION DOLLARS AND FOUND $$4 MILLION IN
THE BUDGET TO HELP PEOPLE WITH THESE ISSUES BECAUSE
OTHERWISE MANY OF THEM WOULD BE HOMELESS OR HAVING TO
MOVE OUT OF THE COUNTY WHO KNOWS WHAT OR DOUBLE UP AND
TRIPLE UP WITH FAMILIES, YOU KNOW, OVERBURDENED AND
CHILDREN SLEEPING ON FLOORS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN IN OUR POWER TO AVOID
THAT.
THAT IS THE GOOD NEWS.
$4 MILLION TO $5 MILLION IS FANTASTIC.
THE BAD NEWS IS, WHEN RERAN THE NUMBERS AND I ASKED YOU
WHAT THE COMMITMENT WAS AND YOU SAID APPROXIMATELY THE
AVERAGE COMMITMENT WOULD BE ABOUT $6500 PER FAMILY FOR
ONE YEAR, WHICH, AGAIN, IS FANTASTIC WE CAN HELP THOSE
FAMILIES AND YOU MULTIPLY IT OUT AND CHARLIE IS OUR
CHIEF MATHEMATICIAN, COMES OUT TO 750 FAMILIES FOR THE
YEAR.
CITY OF TAMPA MADE UP OF 400,000 PEOPLE.
I ESTIMATE PROBABLY 150,000 HOUSEHOLDS.
AND IT IS MIND-BOGGLING TO HEAR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
WHO JUMPED ON THE COMPUTER RIGHT AWAY AT THE VERY FIRST
OPPORTUNITY AND HAVEN'T STOPPED SINCE.
SO THIS COMMUNITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME SERIOUS
SOUL SEARCHING OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO AND REALLY DIG
DEEP TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO RESOLVE THIS.
WE ARE RESOLVING THIS WITH A BAND-AID ON THE SHORT
TERM, BUT WE HAVE -- WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
RESOLVE THIS LONG TERM.
AND, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU AND I KNOW CHIEF BENNETT
WAS DEEPLY INVOLVED.
DENNIS ROGERO AND THE MAYOR HERSELF PROBABLY GAVE THEIR
BLESSINGS.
17:16:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:16:45 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU. MR. CHAIR.
LET ME KNOW IF I GO IN AND OUT.
I APPRECIATE IT 110%, MISS TRAVIS, ALL THE WORK YOU PUT
IN.
WE SPOKE OF THIS ISSUE LAST NIGHT AND LIKE ALL
COUNCILMEMBERS, WE ARE HAPPY TO SEE IT.
WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS IN OUR CITY, STATE AND
COUNTRY.
BUT IF MUCH OF THE UNITED STATES IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A
CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS, IT
SEEMS WE NEED TAMPA BAY AREA TO WEATHER THAT STORM.
WE ARE FEELING IT 110%.
FEELING IT FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS AND PEOPLE STRUGGLING
TO GET INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS.
WHEN LOOK AT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE I LIKE TO
GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE.
IN CITY COUNCIL, FROM DAY ONE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS
TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, CHAIRMAN GUDES.
I REMEMBER WHEN WE STARTED -- HAD THE APPOINTMENT FOR
THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE AND I SUGGESTED
COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER BECAUSE OF HIS WORK ON THAT
ISSUE.
I SALUTE EVERYBODY'S WORK ON THAT ISSUE.
WHEN I LOOK AT THIS CRISIS, YOU KNOW, IT IS TIME FOR
ROBUST INVESTMENT.
YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AFFECTING EVERYDAY WORKING
FAMILIES, AND TO ME, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE CRISIS OF THE GREAT RECESSION AND
THE GREAT DEPRESSION.
AND REALLY REQUIRES ROBUST GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT TO
HELP PEOPLE WHO LACK THE MEANS TO HELP THEMSELVES.
SO THIS IS A REAL STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
WE ARE AT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
AND YOU KNOW, OUR BUDGET IS NOT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
OUR BUDGET IS NOT FLORIDA.
OUR BUDGET IS NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
BUT WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN WITH OUR BUDGET TO
HELP THESE EVERYDAY WORKING FAMILIES.
IT IS A CRISIS.
MISS TRAVIS, I WANTED TO SALUTE YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
I HEARD FROM THE GRAPEVINE YOU WERE UP VERY LATE AT
NIGHT WORKING ON THIS PROPOSAL.
YOU KNOW, JUST TALKING TO YOU YESTERDAY, I COULD TELL
THE PASSION IN YOUR VOICE, THE SINCERITY IN YOUR VOICE,
AND THE REAL SENSE OF URGENCY IN YOUR VOICE TO GET HELP
TO THESE FAMILIES RIGHT NOW.
TO ME I THINK THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT.
I SALUTE EVERYBODY ON THEIR WORK, BUT I ESPECIALLY WANT
TO THANK YOU, MISS TRAVIS, MY HAT IS OFF TO YOU.
THANK YOU.
17:19:11 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THANK YOU.
17:19:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MISS TRAVIS, SAID FROM DAY ONE A
CRISIS AND $1 MILLION WOULDN'T DO IT.
BUT GENTLEMEN, LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
YESTERDAY MORNING I WENT TO THE PRESS CONFERENCE AND
THE ADMINISTRATION DID ASK FOR ME AND MR. DINGFELDER TO
GO.
MR. DINGFELDER COULDN'T GO AND I WENT TO THE PRESS
CONFERENCE.
MISS TRAVIS, TWO MINUTES BEFORE THE PRESS CONFERENCE
SAID, HEY, WE FOUND A WAY TO MAKE SOME MORE MONEY AND
THE MAYOR MADE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT AND I WAS THROWN BACK
BECAUSE I DIDN'T THOUGH THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
WHEN IT WAS TOLD TO ME AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, I
EMBRACED THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT WE MUST DO.
SECONDLY, I TOLD MISS TRAVIS, I COULD NOT BRING THIS
ITEM AT A WALK-ON UNTIL HER STAFF CONTACTED
COUNCILMEMBERS SO THEY CAN KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
I AM ALWAYS GOING TO DO THAT WITH THIS COUNCIL.
I AM NEVER GOING TO BLINDSIDE EVERYBODY.
AND HIDE BEHIND A DOOR.
I WOULD NOT BRING IT AS A WALK-ON UNTIL COUNCILMEMBERS
HAD CONTACTED.
THEY ASSURED ME THAT EVERYBODY -- EXCEPT FOR MR.
CARLSON WHO WAS NOT HERE THIS MORNING.
17:20:18 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WE SPOKE BEFORE THE MEETING.
17:20:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WANT TO SAY THAT, MISS TRAVIS HAS
BEEN LISTENING.
AGAIN, SHE HAS EXPERTISE IN HOUSING.
IT BRINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENCE -- A BETTER WRENCH TO THE
GAME.
BUT I WANT TO SAY THIS.
I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUR
COMMUNITIES WITH YOUR REQUEST TONIGHT BUT I WANT TO BE
CLEAR, MISS TRAVIS, AND TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY CRISIS.
I FILLED MY GAS TANK TWICE ALREADY THIS WEEK, MR.
MIRANDA.
I HAVE A V8.
TAKES A LOT OF GAS.
YOU UNDERSTAND?
GAS OVER $5 A GALLON.
YOU CAN IMAGINE A HOUSE HOLD WITH GAS, FOOD, RENT.
AND THAT'S WHY I SAY WITH THAT HOUSING STUDY, YOU HAVE
TO INCLUDE RENT STABILIZATION STUDY.
AND IT CAN'T BE WAY, WAY OUT.
WE GOT TO START MOVING ON THIS.
I KNOW YOU HAVE LIMITED STAFF.
AND TALKING ABOUT PROCESSING 900 POSSIBLE -- 760 OUT OF
THAT FOR FOUR PEOPLE?
THAT IS A LOT OF PROCESSING.
BUT WITH LIMITED PEOPLE, I KNOW HOUSING DOES NOT HAVE.
SO NOW WE MOVE THE STEPS BACK SOME MORE BECAUSE WE ARE
TRYING TO GET SOMETHING ELSE MOVING AND PUT OTHER STUFF
ON THE BACK BURNER.
AND THAT IS UNFORTUNATE, BECAUSE WE ARE STILL HOLDING
OUR RESIDENTS BACK FROM THESE PROGRAMS.
SO I KNOW WITH YOU BEING HERE YOU KNOW THE NEED OF
GETTING MORE PEOPLE AND STAFF.
WE GOT TO HAVE THAT DONE.
AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT -- THERE WILL COME A TIME
WHEN THIS COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO ANTE UP AND WE
ARE GOING TO SAY -- AND LET IT BE KNOWN THAT WE HAVE AN
EMERGENCY CRISIS.
SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL GET READY BECAUSE GOING TO COME A
TIME THIS COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THE GUTS TO
SAY WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY CRISIS AND RUN AND FIGURE OUT
WHAT THAT IS SO WE CAN DO SOMETHING FOR THE CITIZENS.
IT'S COMING.
YOU GOT A WAR GOING ON.
THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
MR. MIRANDA JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT.
THE WHEAT FIELDS -- I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND WE GOT TO MOVE.
I AM JUST SAYING THAT IS GOING TO BE COMING, BUT ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISS TRAVIS BEFORE I ASK FOR THE
VOTE.
MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:22:33 >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE MORE THING FROM COMMUNICATION
POINT OF VIEW.
TODAY WHEN THIS WAS ANNOUNCED, A POSITIVE ANNOUNCEMENT
FOR MOST PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY DON'T LIKE IT, BUT A LOT
OF PEOPLE DO HIKE IT AND 900 OR SO FAMILIES THAT WILL
BENEFIT FROM IT.
WITHIN TWO OR THREE DAYS AGAIN, WE WILL RUN OUT OF
MONEY AGAIN.
THE ANNOUNCEMENT AND PUBLICITY ASK WHOEVER IS DOING IT
TO PLEASE SET EXPECTATIONS.
BECAUSE UNLESS YOU KNOW OF A SECRET POT OF MONEY AFTER
THIS, THIS MAY BE THE END OF IT.
AND WE HAVE TO -- IF THERE ARE ANOTHER 5,000 PEOPLE
BEHIND THE 900, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE
DISAPPOINTED PEOPLE THAN HAPPY PEOPLE.
SO WE HAVE GOT TO SOMEHOW EXPLAIN MORE HOW WE ARE GOING
TO RUN OUT OF MONEY THAN WHATEVER MONEY WE HAVE.
BECAUSE SOUNDS LIKE THE WORD GOT OUT PRETTY FAST.
17:23:22 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YES, SIR.
17:23:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MIRANDA AND THEN PROCEDURALLY
SOMETHING I NEED TO DO.
17:23:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING.
I ENJOYED THE CONVERSATION WE HAD.
STATED EARLIER IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
FACTUALLY IS THIS.
THIS CITY CANNOT BE IN DEFICIT.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET.
WE ARE NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
WE KEEP WRITING CHECKS AND KEEP GETTING IN DEBT.
THIS WE CANNOT DO, AS YOU WELL KNOW.
SO THERE ARE LIMITATIONS TO WHAT WE CAN DO.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE OTHER NEEDS THAT ARE ROADS
AND WATER AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT EVERY CITY
HAS.
SO IT'S GOT TO BE EXPLAINED THAT WE CAN'T HANDLE 50,000
PEOPLE WHEN I SEE NEEDS AND NECESSITY IF YOU ARE
CHECKING ONE RENT SHEET AGAINST ANOTHER SHEET.
AND YOU DON'T KNOW THE BACKGROUND AND GIVE OUT CHECKS,
WE AREN'T USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, WE NEED TO VERIFY THAT THE NEED IS
A NECESSITY.
I KNOW THERE IS A NECESSITY THERE, BUT I NEED TO MAKE
SURE THAT THE CHECKS GO TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT THE
MOST.
THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A
MANNERISM WHERE IT CAN BE TRACED BACK IN THE AUDIT AND
SAY THEY DID IT RIGHT.
17:24:47 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
ABSOLUTELY.
17:24:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I APPRECIATE YOUR MOVE.
I APPRECIATE YOUR APPEARANCE.
I APPRECIATE THE CANDOR.
I NEVER GOT ELECTED TO BE POPULAR.
I DON'T CARE IF THE DAMN MAYOR GETS EVERYTHING SHE
WANTS OR MENTIONED.
I NEVER WANTED TO BE POPULAR.
I JUST WANT TO BE RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:25:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MISS TRAVIS.
ONE THING WHEN WE TALK.
WHEN WE TALK OF GIVING OUT THIS MONEY, LET'S BE CLEAR.
NOT GIVING THE WHOLE RENT, BUT JUST A PORTION.
17:25:20 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.
GAP.
IF THEY ARE EXPERIENCING -- THEY HAVE TO BE
EXPERIENCING A RENT INCREASE AND WHATEVER THEIR RENT
CURRENTLY IS AND WHAT IT IS GOING TO.
THAT FUNDING IS TO FILL THAT GAP IN BETWEEN.
17:25:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU MAY CONTINUE.
17:25:35 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
COUNCILMEMBERS, I REALLY WANT TO
THANK YOU THIS EVENING AGAIN FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE LESS THAN 60 DAYS AND HAVE THE
HELM LESS THAN 30, AND I HAVE SEEN NOTHING BUT
COLLABORATION AND REALLY IN OUR INTERNAL MEETINGS
HEARING WHAT COUNCIL IS SAYING AND TRYING TO BE
RESPONSIVE.
YOU HAVE MY UPMOST COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE THAT
COLLABORATION WITH YOU AND TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON -- ON
THE PROGRAMS ON YOUR REQUEST.
WE HAVE -- TO YOUR POINT OF THE SHORTAGE WITH THE
PLANNING STAFF.
WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE PROCESSING THE
APPLICATIONS, BUT THE PLANNING TEAM, WHICH IS ANOTHER
DEPARTMENT, HAS ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON OUR -- ON
OUR RFP PUTTING TOGETHER WHAT WE NEED FOR RFP FOR
HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
WE UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS.
WE ARE MOVING THAT TO NUMBER ONE.
AND WE ARE WORKING ON THAT NOW.
AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOUR POINT OF SETTING
EXPECTATIONS.
ON OUR WEB SITE WE HAD TO PAUSE APPLICATIONS AND PUT A
NOTE ON THE WEB SITE TO SAY WE HAD TO PAUSE
APPLICATIONS AT THIS TIME, BUT PLEASE FILL OUT THIS
FORM WITH YOUR INFORMATION SO THAT THERE IS MORE
FUNDING, WE CAN CONTACT THESE PEOPLE.
WE ALSO ASKED THEM THEIR HOUSEHOLD INCOME SO IF THEY
PERHAPS MAY QUALIFY FOR OTHER FUNDING.
FEDERAL FUNDING, WE WILL PULL THE INFORMATION FROM THAT
LIST AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO HELP THEM.
WE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE CONTACT US SAYING THEY ARE
NOT SURE IF THEY ARE ELIGIBLE AND THEY DON'T REALIZE
THAT THEY ARE.
THE FUNDS YOU HAVE COMMITTED TO THIS PROGRAM FOR THAT
80 TO 140% ARE HELPING PEOPLE ARE REPORTERS, THAT ARE
NURSES, THAT ARE FIRE FIGHTERS, THAT NEED ASSISTANCE AS
WELL.
SO I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INDULGENCE THIS
EVENING AND FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
17:27:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I GO TO PUBLIC
COMMENT.
MR. SHELBY SAYS WE NEED PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
ANYONE ON SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, WALK-ON
ITEM FOR $4 MILLION.
17:27:38 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
AILEEN ROSARIO, LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
17:27:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK, MADAM CLERK?
17:27:49 >>CLERK:
NO ONE IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK.
17:27:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER.
17:27:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
HONOR TO MOVE THIS WALK-ON ITEM.
17:27:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
17:28:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER MADE THE MOTION AND
MIRANDA SECONDED.
17:28:02 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
17:28:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
17:28:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
17:28:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.
17:28:06 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
17:28:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
17:28:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
17:28:11 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
17:28:15 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:28:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
$4 MILLION.
ALL RIGHT, MR. SHELBY, LET'S GO TO MISS BARNES.
17:28:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A LOT OF HOUSEKEEPING TONIGHT, MR.
CHAIRMAN.
17:28:29 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AS MR. SHELBY ANNOUNCED, SOME ITEMS TO CLEAN UP FOR YOU
TONIGHT.
THE FIRST ONE ITEM NUMBER 1, FILE NO. REZ-21-46.
THE APPLICANT IS ASKING A CONTINUANCE TO THE APRIL 14,
2022 PUBLIC HEARING.
I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE TO SPEAK ON THIS
REQUEST.
COUNCIL WILL ALSO NEED TO WAIVE THE REQUIRED 180 DAYS
SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-148.
17:29:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CAN WE TAKE THAT UP INDIVIDUALLY,
PLEASE.
I SEE MR. MECHANIK.
17:29:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT, MR. MECHANIK.
17:29:12 >>DAVID MECHANIK:
YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK.
AND I'M HERE TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER
1, AND THAT IS SO WE CAN ADDRESS SEVERAL STAFF
COMMENTS.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
17:29:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE SECOND CONTINUANCE ON THIS ITEM?
17:29:40 >>DAVID MECHANIK:
YES, SIR.
17:29:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THEY ARE ALLOWED TWO.
17:29:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, AGAIN, IF ANYONE WHO IS
HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM AND THEY WANT TO SPEAK TO THE
CONTINUANCE, I ASK THAT THE COUNCIL HEAR FROM THOSE
PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SPEAK, NOT ON THE MERITS BUT JUST ON
THE CONTINUANCE.
17:30:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK
ON THIS ITEM, ONLY TO THE CONTINUANCE.
17:30:06 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
AILEEN ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU.
17:30:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS
ITEM?
17:30:16 >>CLERK:
NO ONE IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
17:30:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
17:30:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
CONTINUE TO WHEN?
17:30:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CONTINUE -- DATE AND TIME.
MOTION TO CONTINUE -- WHAT IS THAT AGAIN?
17:30:30 >>CLERK:
APRIL 14, 2022 AT 5:01 P.M.
17:30:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
180 DAYS, DOES THIS INCLUDE -- MR.
MECHANIK, YOUR REQUEST TO WAIVE THE 180 DAYS.
17:30:40 >>DAVID MECHANIK:
WE WAIVE THE 180 DAYS.
17:30:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS THAT PART OF THE MOTION TOO.
17:30:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER HAS MOVED IT.
MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED.
17:30:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, NO
OTHER NOTICE TO MARK THE DATE -- WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN,
APRIL 14 OF THIS YEAR, 2022 AT 5:01 P.M.
THANK YOU.
17:31:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT, MR. MECHANIK, THANK YOU,
SIR.
MISS BARNES, ANY MORE HOUSEKEEPING?
17:31:12 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
YES, ITEM NUMBER 4 IS VAC-22-04
AND ITEM 5, REZ-22-05.
THEY ARE BOTH ASSOCIATED PETITION REQUEST.
APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE OF BOTH
APPLICATIONS TO BE HEARD AT THE APRIL 14, 2022 PUBLIC
HEARING.
AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE TO SPEAK ON
THIS REQUEST AS WELL.
17:31:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE APPLICATION.
17:31:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. HUDSON.
17:31:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I SEE TYLER THERE.
I DON'T SEE MR. HUDSON.
ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS
ITEM FOR THE CONTINUANCE?
FOR FOUR AND FIVE?
17:31:56 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
AILEEN ROSARIO, LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
17:32:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYONE REGISTERED?
17:32:04 >>CLERK:
NO ONE IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
17:32:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
QUESTION.
17:32:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
17:32:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MR. CHAIRMAN, IS THE 180 DAY AT
ISSUE AT THIS, 4 AND 5.
17:32:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A QUESTION FOR STAFF OR MISS WELLS.
I WAS NOT AWARE OF IT.
17:32:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MISS BARNES OR MISS WELLS, A
CONCERN, 180 DAYS.
17:32:26 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.
17:32:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I MOVE ITEMS 4 AND 5 FOR APRIL 14,
2022 AT WHAT TIME?
17:32:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
5:01 P.M.
17:32:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED.
MISS BARNES.
I KNOW WE HAVE THE CONTINUANCE, BUT WE DON'T LOAD UP
THE 14TH.
WE HAVE A RULE ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CASES.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT OVERLOADED FOR THE
14TH.
17:32:58 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES LAND DEVELOPMENT.
THERE IS AVAILABILITY FOR BOTH OF THOSE CASES ON THE
14TH.
17:33:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT, YOU MAY CONTINUE WITH THE
CLEANUP.
17:33:12 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ITEM NUMBER 6, REZ-2100.
THE APPLICATION WAS IMPROPERLY RENOTICED.
17:33:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE.
17:33:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SECOND.
17:33:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION GRANTED.
REMOVED.
17:33:24 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 10, 121-27.
APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE FOR THE APRIL 28
PUBLIC HEARING, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE
TO SPEAK ON THIS REQUEST AS WELL.
17:33:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MECHANIK.
17:33:41 >>DAVID MECHANIK:
YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND
COUNCILMEMBERS, WE ARE HERE TO ASK -- DAVID MECHANIK,
SORRY, TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 28 AT 5:01
P.M.
17:33:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHICH ONE IS THIS?
17:34:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ITEM NUMBER 10.
17:34:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
17:34:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK
TO THE CONTINUANCE ONLY.
17:34:07 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
AILEEN ROSARIO.
YES I HAVE THREE PEOPLE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON
THE CONTINUANCE.
17:34:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
THEY HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
EVERYBODY HAS BEEN SWORN DOWNSTAIRS.
17:34:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE SWORN FOR THE
CONTINUANCE PURPOSES.
17:34:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
17:34:39 >> YOU CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT THE CASE.
YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK OF THE CONTINUANCE.
17:34:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AGAIN, A REMINDER TO THE PUBLIC, WHEN
THE ITEM IS ASKED TO BE CONTINUED AND YOU WISH TO
SPEAK, IT IS NOT ON THE MERITS.
DO NOT SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT MATTER ITSELF BUT WHETHER
OR NOT YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THE CONTINUANCE AND
WHY.
THAT IS THE ONLY REASON FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU.
17:35:04 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
THEY ARE NOT -- THEY ARE GOING TO
HOLD THEIR THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS UNTIL THE DATE OF THE
CASE..
17:35:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU.
17:35:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ANYBODY ONLINE?
17:35:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYONE REGISTERED.
17:35:19 >>CLERK:
MELISSA WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE
CONTINUANCE.
17:35:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE HER UP?
I DON'T SEE HER ON OUR SCREENS.
17:35:33 >>CLERK:
MELISSA, YOU NEED TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
17:35:35 >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.
I AM ORGANIZED WITH A GROUP WHO WAS ABLE TO BE IN
PERSON.
IF THEY WANT TO HOLD THEIR THOUGHTS UNTIL THE
CONTINUANCE, I WILL DO THAT AS WELL.
THANK YOU.
17:35:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
17:35:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CONTINUE THE ITEM.
17:35:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. SHELBY.
17:35:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PART OF THE MOTION INCLUDE THE DATE
AND TIME, AND THE REASON TO DO THAT IS TO CONTINUE THE
NOTICE BECAUSE THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THAT
WILL BE THE NOTICE THAT THEY RECEIVE OF WHEN THIS ITEM
IS CONTINUED.
WE WILL NOT BE GETTING ANOTHER POSTING OR ANOTHER
MAILING.
SO IF YOU CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL --
17:36:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
APRIL 28, 5:01.
17:36:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM APRIL
28 AT 5:01 P.M. AND MR. SHELBY NOTICED NOT ANOTHER
NOTICE TO THE COMMUNITIES, CORRECT.
17:36:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THEY SHOULD MARK DOWN.
17:36:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
APRIL 28, 5:01 P.M. OF 2022 WHEN
THE ITEM WILL BE HEARD.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT ARE HERE TO SPEAK, THIS IS YOUR
NOTICE.
THANK YOU.
17:36:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND?
17:36:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SECOND.
17:36:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED.
17:36:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO A ROLL CALL ON THIS.
17:36:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. SHELBY --
17:36:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU KNOW WHY, FROM NOW ON -- ANY TIME
WE USE VIDEO.
ANY TIME A MEMBER OF COUNCIL IS APPEARING VIRTUALLY, WE
WILL HAVE TO DO ROLL CALL VOTES TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE
RECORDED.
17:37:01 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
17:37:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
17:37:05 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
17:37:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
17:37:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
17:37:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.
17:37:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
17:37:13 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
17:37:15 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
17:37:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MISS BARNES.
17:37:22 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ITEM NUMBER 11, REZ-21-130.
APPLICATION WAS IMPROPERLY NOTICED.
17:37:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION.
17:37:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SECOND.
17:37:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ROLL CALL PLEASE.
17:37:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
17:37:33 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
17:37:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
17:37:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
17:37:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.
17:37:38 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
17:37:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
17:37:42 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
17:37:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MISS BARNES, YOU CAN CONTINUE.
17:37:47 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 12, REZ 21-35.
THIS APPLICATION WAS IMPROPERLY NOTICED.
CAN YOU ALSO --
17:38:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER.
17:38:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANISCALCO.
AND SECONDED BY MR. DINGFELDER.
17:38:07 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
17:38:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
17:38:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
17:38:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.
17:38:12 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
17:38:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
17:38:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
17:38:19 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
17:38:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU CAN CONTINUE, MISS BARNES.
17:38:24 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
THAT INCLUDES THE AGENDA CLEANUP.
17:38:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHOLE AGENDA.
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
17:38:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE TO OPEN..
17:38:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MOTION TO OPEN.
17:38:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE TO OPEN, SIR.
MR. MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL.
17:38:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU KNOW SOMETHING, JUST FOR PURPOSES
OF THE MOTION, WE SHOULD HAVE MADE THE MOTION TO OPEN
THEM ANYWAY FOR THAT WERE CONTINUED.
IF COUNCIL WILL REFLECT -- IF COUNCIL WILL REFLECT THAT
THE MOTION WILL HAVE OPENED THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE
CONTINUED.
17:39:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE.
[INAUDIBLE]
17:39:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, THANK YOU.
17:39:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
A MOTION AND PROPERLY SECONDED.
MADAM CLERK.
17:39:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
17:39:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
17:39:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.
17:39:18 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
17:39:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
17:39:21 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
17:39:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
17:39:25 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
17:39:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I GUESS WE ARE OFFICIALLY OPEN FOR
BUSINESS FOR ITEM NUMBER 2.
MISS BARNS.
17:39:38 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
BEFORE WE BEGIN, CAN HE SWEAR STAFF IN.
[SWEARING IN]
17:39:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE MAY BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER TWO.
17:40:00 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES LAND DEVELOPMENT ARE
COORDINATION.
FILE NO. REZ-21-690, PROPERTY IS LOCATED 810 AND
810 1/2 WEST HENRY AVENUE FROM PD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD.
17:40:24 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE, HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.
I AM GOING TO PRESENT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION
FINDING FOR 21-90 IN THE CENTRAL PLANNING DISTRICTS IN
THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE AND WITHIN THE OLD
SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD AND HENRY AND OLA PARK IS
EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
TRANSIT LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE ALONG WEST
HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND WITHIN EVACUATION ZONE A.
A PORTION IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH
HAZARD AREA.
AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
OUTLINED IN THE PURPLE IT IS LONG AND NARROW.
THE STAR IS REPRESENTING HENRY OLA PARKS AND WEST
HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE IS TO THE SOUTH.
THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA IS SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACH AND BUSINESSES ALONG HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
THE REQUEST SUPPORTS -- I APOLOGIZE.
LASTLY HERE IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE FUTURE LAND USE A RESIDENTIAL-10.
GREEN FOR RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE AND THE PINK TO THE
SOUTH ALONG HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE
35 REPRESENTING THOSE COMMERCIAL USES IN THE AREA.
SO THE REQUEST TO SUPPORT MANY OF THE POLICIES IN THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING THE CITY'S
POPULATION AND THE REQUEST IS FOR FOUR SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACHED UNITS.
AND THAT IS CONSISTENT WELL POLICIES AND HOUSING
CHOICES THAT SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS NEEDED FOR
THE CITY.
AND ENV, POLICY 1.14.1 WHICH SPEAKS TO PROTECT THE
HILLSBOROUGH RIVER FROM CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY
AND THUS REQUIRES A SITE PLAN REZONING FOR THOSE SITES
ALONG THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
THIS REZONING IS MEETING THE POLICY DIRECTION THROUGH
THE PD WHICH IS A SITE PLAN CONTROLLED ZONING DISTRICT.
WE FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN AND WITH THAT
SPECIFIC POLICY DIRECTION THAT REQUIRES THAT.
SO IN CONCLUSION, WE FIND IT COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE
WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ALONG WEST HENRY AVENUE
AND MANY OF HOUSING POLICIES IN THE PLAN AND CONSISTENT
WITH THE LONG-RANGE DEVELOPMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND ALSO TO POINT OUT THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AT
A DENSITY 4.04 UNITS PER ACRE AND THIS IS CONSISTENT
WITH THE RESIDENTIAL-10 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION AND I WILL TURN BACK
TO ANNIE.
17:43:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE.
MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:43:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST A QUESTION -- FORGIVE ME.
I HAD TO STEP OUT.
I NEED TO BE CLEAR THAT THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT
DOWNSTAIRS AND SEE THEY DID NOT REGISTER.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
17:43:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IS THE APPLICANT ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
17:43:20 >> YES.
17:43:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
GOOD, THANK YOU.
ANYONE WITH QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
17:43:35 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
THANK YOU, ANNIE BARNES, LAND
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I AM GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
17:43:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE CAN SEE IT IF YOU BLOW IT UP FOR
US.
17:43:51 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
OH, OKAY.
IS THAT BETTER.
17:43:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE GOT IT.
17:43:57 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
THE APPLICANT WILL REZONE 810 WEST
HENRY AVENUE AND 810 WEST HEN PRE AVENUE UNIT HALF WITH
SINGLE-FAMILY USES.
AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ONE WAIVER WHICH IS
SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN HERE.
SHOWN HERE IS A SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY APPROXIMATELY
.99 ACRE IN SIZE AND THE SITE IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED
WITH ONE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING.
THE SITE IS COMPRISED OF LOT 11, BLOCK 22 OF IDLEWILD
OF THE SUBDIVISION PLOTTED IN 1906.
THE REZONING IS FOR FOUR SINGLE-FAMILY -- SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACHED DWELLINGS.
FOR THE RECORD AN UPDATE TO THE STAFF REPORT REGARDING
PRINCIPLE SETBACKS.
THEY WILL BE NORTH 15 FEET, SOUTH 20 FEET.
EAST 7 FEET.
AND WEST 15 FEET.
PROPOSED MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 30 FEET WITH
MAXIMUM OF TWO STORIES.
17:45:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
POLICE BARNES, DO ME A FAVOR AND CAN
YOU ENLARGE THAT SCREEN A LITTLE BIT MORE.
17:45:08 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
OKAY.
BETTER?
17:45:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THERE YOU GO.
THANK YOU.
17:45:17 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
SORRY.
EIGHT PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND BEING PROVIDED
AND VEHICULAR ACCESS IS PROVIDED FROM WEST HENRY
AVENUE.
SHOWN HERE ARE THE ELEVATION PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND
SURROUNDING ZONING.
PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE SITE IS SH-RS
WHICH IS SEMINOLE HEIGHTS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND
DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL USES.
AND THIS IS THE PREDOMINANT TYPE OF USE IN THE AREA.
PROPERTY SOUTH AND ACROSS THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER IS
ZONED RS-50.
SHOWN HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH THE EXISTING
HOUSE ALONG WEST HENRY AVENUE FACING SOUTH.
SHOWN HERE IS PROPERTY DIRECTLY WEST OF THE SUBJECT
SITE ALONG WEST HENRY AVENUE.
SHOWN HERE IS BOTH SIDES OF WEST HENRY AVENUE FACING
EAST.
AND THEN SHOWN HERE IS THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE
INTERSECTION OF WEST HENRY AND ISMAR AVENUE.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AN COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
PETITION AND FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE
CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS PLEASE REFER
TO URBAN DESIGN COMMENT FOR OVERALL INCONSISTENCY
FINDING.
IF COUNCIL GRANTS, FURTHER MODIFICATION OF THE SITE
PLAN WITHIN FIRST AND SECOND READING STATED IN THE
REVISION SHEET AND ADDITIONAL BUILDING SETBACKS NEED TO
BE UPDATED AS SHOWN.
AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
17:47:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS BARNES.
MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:47:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MISS BARNES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PRESENTATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PUT THE SITE PLAN BACK UP.
17:47:35 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
CAN YOU STILL SEE MY SCREEN?
17:47:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.
17:47:38 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
OKAY, GREAT.
17:47:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THE URBAN DESIGN FOLKS SAID IT WAS
INCONSISTENT, BUT IF WE DESIRE TO APPROVE IT, THEN THE
MODIFICATIONS SHOULD BE PLACED ON THERE BETWEEN FIRST
AND SECOND READING.
DOES THAT IMPLY OR TELL US THAT IF THOSE CHANGES ARE
MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING THAN THAT WOULD
CHANGE THEIR -- THEIR REVIEW TO BE CONSISTENT?
17:48:02 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
NO.
THAT IS INCORRECT.
SO THE WAIVER REQUESTED ON THE FIRST PAGE.
LET'S SEE IF I CAN -- WOULD BE THE REASON FOR
INCONSISTENCY.
URBAN IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO COUNCIL WOULD BE WAIVING THAT BUILD-TO-LINE.
17:48:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
TELL US WHAT THAT MEANS.
THE REQUIRED BUILD-TO-LINE.
17:48:39 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
I WILL REFER TO URBAN DESIGN ON
THIS ONE.
17:48:43 >> GOOD EVENING.
CAN ANYBODY HEAR ME?
17:48:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE CAN HEAR YOU, SIR.
17:48:51 >> SO THAT BUILD-TO-LINE IS BASED ON -- IT IS AN
EXISTING STRUCTURE, SO IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY MEET WITH
WHAT THE BUILD-TO-LINE IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
AND ALSO A CORRECTION THAT IS NEEDED TO THE ACTUAL --
TO THE SITE PLAN.
IT WAS AN INCORRECT DISTANCE.
BUT IF THAT CORRECTION IS MADE, URBAN DESIGN WOULD
SUPPORT IT BECAUSE THE FRONT EXISTING STRUCTURE IS --
IS EXISTING.
SO WE WOULD -- WE WOULD SUPPORT THAT WAIVER.
17:49:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
OKAY.
WHAT ARE YOU SAYING BUILD-TO-LINE.
30 SOMETHING FEET FROM THE STREET OR 30 SOMETHING --
17:49:30 >> THAT DISTANCE FROM THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT TO THE FRONT
WALL OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE.
17:49:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
EFFECTIVELY A FRONT-YARD SETBACK
THEN?
17:49:40 >> RIGHT, YEAH.
17:49:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
AN UNUSUAL LAYOUT FOR A LONG SKINNY
WALK.
I WAS WALKING WITH ON THAT STREET WITH MY WIFE HENRY
AND WEST OLA PARK.
I LOOKED AT THE DRIVEWAYS AND I SAID THAT IS REALLY
DEEP LOTS.
I WAS WONDERING MORE THAN ONE HOUSE BEHIND EACH ONE
OF THOSE AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY INDICATION OF THAT.
SO DID URBAN DESIGN COME UP -- OR CONCLUDE THERE WAS
ANY SHORTFALL, ANY DOWNSIDE TO THIS, ANY IMPACTED ON
SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS WITH FOUR HOUSES INSTEAD OF ONE?
17:50:22 >> NO, URBAN DESIGN DID NOT.
IT IS -- JUST THE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE
NEEDED.
SO WE ALSO ASKED THE APPLICANT TO ADD ELEVATION OF ALL
THE HOMES.
CONCEPT ELEVATIONS.
THEY ARE ONLY SHOWING THE FRONT AS A CONCEPT OF WHAT
THE FRONT ONE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND WE ASK THAT THEY PROVIDE ELEVATIONS FOR THE THREE
REMAINING STRUCTURES.
17:50:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
DID THEY AGREE TO THAT?
YES, THEY DID.
I TALKED TO THE APPLICANT YESTERDAY EVENING AND HE SAID
THEY WILL MAKE THOSE UPDATES.
17:50:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
17:50:55 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
17:51:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISS BARNES.
HEARING NONE, HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
17:51:04 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
MY NAME IS JL ALSABBAGH WITH SYCAMORE, TAMPA,
FLORIDA, 33615.
AND I AM ALSO SWORN.
I AM REPRESENTING HENRY STREET HOLDING LCC.
I HAVE WITH ME JEFF SHIRT LET AND BRENT WHO IS THE
OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATING AT 810 WEST HENRY AVENUE.
IT IS ONE ACHER IN SIZE.
FUTURE LAND USE R-10 AND ZONING PD.
THIS IS APPROVED PD BEFORE AND Z 06-76.
SO APPROVED WITH TWO LOTS.
WHAT WE ARE PROPOSE SOMETHING MODIFICATION TO THE P D
TO ALLOW FOUR LOT.
WE HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE STAFF ON THIS TO GET TO
THE SITE PLAN WE HAVE.
JUST TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, WE HAVE ON THE WEST
SIDE OF OUR -- THERE IS THREE LOTS.
TO THE EAST, TWO LOTS.
I WILL ADDRESS THE URBAN DESIGN DEFICIENCY OR
INCONSISTENCY BROUGHT UP.
THE EXISTING HOUSE -- AS THEY SAY THE EXISTING HOUSE ON
LOT 1, ENCROACHING INTO THE 20-FOOT DRIVE ACCESS AND
UTILITY EASEMENT.
SO THE HOUSE --
17:52:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CLEAR IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
IT IS VERY BLURRY.
THERE IT IS.
17:52:34 >> YES, SIR.
WE HAVE 18 FOOT FROM THAT -- EXISTING HOUSE TO THE
PROPERTY LINE BESIDE THE EXISTING TREES.
WHAT CAME BACK -- WE REQUIRE NOT ONLY 20 FOOT FOR THE
EASEMENT BUT 20 FOOT FOR THE TRUCK -- FOR THE FIRE
TRUCK.
WE COORDINATED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND NATURAL
RESOURCE.
WE MEET ON-SITE, MEASURED IT, AND CAME TO CONCLUSION
THAT WE ARE READY TO MOVE THE HOUSE ON.
TO MOVE IT AND ADJUST IT.
IF WE CAN, MOVE THE WALL TO ACHIEVE THAT 20-FOOT
REQUIRED.
IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE AND MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT.
BASED ON THAT WE GET SUPPORT FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL ON
THAT ONE.
FIRST ITEM IS ADDRESSED FULLY BY MOVING AND WE ADD A
NOTE INTO THE PLAN IN THIS REGARD THAT WE ARE GOING TO
ADJUST THE HOUSE TO ACHIEVE THE 20 FEET.
SECOND AND THIRD ITEM IN THE URBAN DESIGN EFFICIENCY IS
ENDMENT WHICH IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
ENDMENT TO THE PLAN TO CHANGE.
THE THIRD ITEM.
THIRD ITEM IS RELATED TO THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION.
SO WE ARE PROPOSING CRAFTSMAN-STYLE.
AND THIS IS ALLOWED TO HAVE.
WHAT STAFF IS LOOKING TO HAVE MORE ELEVATION RELATED TO
THE TWO-STORY HOUSES THAT WE PROPOSE.
SO WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT
TWO-STORY ELEVATION.
IN ADDITION, WHEN I SPOKE TO -- THE URBAN DESIGN
REVIEWER, HE BROUGHT UP IF WE CAN DO OUR DESIGN IN THE
FUTURE, THE DETAILED DESIGN FOR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN,
THAT WOULD BE ALSO THE POINT THAT STAFF IS MORE THAN
HAPPY TO DO.
THIS IS RELATED TO ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION THAT WE
PROVIDE AND ALSO TO THAT SECTION.
SO BASED ON THAT -- THOSE FOUR ITEMS OF THE URBAN
DESIGN AND I DISCUSSED IT EXCLUSIVELY WITH A VIEWER.
WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT AND ACHIEVE IT AND GET
CONSISTENCY ON THAT REGARD.
THE SECOND PART IS THE WAIVER.
WE ARE ASKING FOR A WAIVER THAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLY
FROM 37.799 WHICH IS THE DISTANCE FROM OUR HOUSE TO
THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT.
THE ADJACENT IS 33.77.
BASED ON THAT ASK FOR WAIVER AND AS YOU SEE THE STAFF
IS REPORTING THAT.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.
NO SETBACK OR A CONDITION WE ASK FOR WAIVER FOR.
SO IN SUMMARY, OUR REQUEST FOR PD ZONING MOD IF I IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA OF SINGLE-FAMILY
USE AND WITHIN THE ALLOWED DENSITY.
THE REQUEST IS SUPPORTED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VISION TO PROVIDE USE WITHIN INFILL
AND UTILIZE LAND TO ENSURE ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING
OF THE NEED OF TAMPA.
AND PRESENT FUTURE POPULATION.
WE HAVE REVIEWED THE STAFF REPORT.
WE ARE IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH THAT.
BE MORE TO TAKE CARE OF ANY CHANGE REQUIRED BETWEEN
FIRST READING AND THE SECOND READING.
SO NOTHING ELSE.
LOOK FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON THAT.
17:55:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
BEING NONE, WE WILL GO BACK ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SEE
IF THERE IS ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
ITEM NUMBER TWO.
17:56:22 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, AILEEN
ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I HAVE 13 PEOPLE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS
ITEM AND THEY HAVE ALL BEEN SWORN IN.
I WILL BRING IN TWO AT A TIME.
17:56:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HOW MANY DID YOU SAY?
17:56:33 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
13.
17:56:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN, SIT BACK AND HOLD TIGHT.
17:56:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ASK THE PETITIONER TO STEP ASIDE WHEN
THE PUBLIC IS SPEAKING.
17:56:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IF THE APPLICANT CAN STEP OUT WHILE
THE OTHER FOLKS.
17:56:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE ROOM.
17:56:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WILL THEY BE ABLE TO WATCH THAT ON
THE TELEVISION MONITORS?
17:57:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES, THEY CAN WATCH IT.
17:57:12 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND LET
THEM KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
17:57:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU CAN BEGIN
SPEAKING.
17:57:25 >> HI, MY NAME IS DEBBY SKIBBE, AND I LIVE AT 904 WEST
HENRY AVENUE.
17:57:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
CAN YOU SPEAK UP AND PULL THE MIC
TOWARD YOU.
ONE OR THE OTHER.
17:57:34 >> IS THIS BET HER IN.
17:57:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THERE YOU GO.
YES, MA'AM.
17:57:38 >> CAN I START?
17:57:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, MA'AM, YOU CAN START.
17:57:41 >> OKAY.
I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO TELL YOU WHY IT IS SO
IMPORTANT TO ME NOT TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY.
FOR MARATHON 33 YEARS, I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE, AS
WELL AS MY HUSBAND AND ALL MY NEIGHBORS, TO THIS AREA
WE CAN CALL A HIDDEN GEM.
THIS BEAUTIFUL OPEN SPACE WITH MANY GORGEOUS TREES.
WE SHARE THIS WITH AN ASSORTMENT OF WILDLIFE.
WHICH IS HOME OF HAWKS THAT COME EVERY YEAR.
NEST.
RAISE THEIR BABIES.
WE WATCH THEM TEACH THEM HOW TO FLY.
LEAVE THE NEST AND LIVE THEIR LIFE, PRETTY MUCH THE
SAME WAY WE DO OUR CHILDREN.
I MEAN, IT IS A COMMUNITY.
ALL THESE TREES HOUSE MANY BEAUTIFUL BIRDS.
WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF OWLS THAT LIVE ON OUR
PROPERTIES.
AND -- IT JUST GOES ON AND ON THE ASSORTMENT OF BIRDS.
BIG HUGE WOODPECKERS SO I KNOW A LOT OF TREES THEY WANT
TO TEAR DOWN.
JUST TO FITNESS GLORIOUS NATURE.
WE GET TO SEE THAT.
WE BOUGHT THESE PROPERTIES WITH ONLY THE IDEA THAT, YOU
KNOW, WE CAN HAVE OUR PROPERTY AND IF WE WANTED TO
BUILD ANOTHER ONE, THAT IS FINE BUT YOU KNOW, A LOT
MORE GOING ON NOW WITH THIS REQUEST.
LET ME SEE.
WE HAVE SEEN ALL KIND OF WONDERFUL THINGS.
BEES.
BEES THAT ARE MAKING THEIR HOMES THERE.
WE HAVE EVERYTHING.
HE SEEN -- PROPERTY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, YOU
CAN WATCH ALLIGATORS, TURTLES CROSS ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO
MY PROPERTY, WHICH HAS A BEAUTIFUL ARTESIAN WELL WITH A
POND THAT THIS TURTLE, MANY OF THEM THROUGH THE YEARS,
33 YEARS AND.
ALL MAKING HOME OUT OF THIS LITTLE PIECE OF PARADISE WE
HAVE HERE.
AND.
18:00:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I THINK 810 HENRY AND HOW FAR --
HOW MANY LOTS OVER ON ONE SIDE OF THE OTHER ARE YOU?
18:01:02 >> I AM TWO LOTS OVER.
18:01:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SAME SIDE OF THE STREET, TWO LOTS
OVER.
18:01:07 >> YES, SIR.
18:01:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
ANY OTHER CONCERNS WITH REGARD TO
INCREASED TRAFFIC OR LACK OF SIDEWALKS OR ANYTHING
OTHER?
18:01:18 >> IT JUST SEEMS PRETTY EXCESSIVE WHAT THEY ARE ASKING
FOR IN THIS -- THIS UNIQUE SPECIAL LAND.
AND YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE A HOME BEING BUILT, BUT THEY
ARE WANTING TO HAVE A TOTAL OF FOUR HOMES.
JUST BLOWS MY MIND.
18:01:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SO IT AND TO ME WHEN I WAS WALKING
THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BY COINCIDENCE THAT THERE IS ABOUT
TEN -- TEN OR 15 LOTS AROUND THERE THAT ARE VERY DEEP
DOWN TO THE RIVER.
IS THERE ANY PRECEDENT FOR THIS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW
-- IT LOOKED LIKE MOST -- MOST OF THE LOTS HAD ONE --
OR MAYBE TWO HOUSES.
18:01:56 >> CORRECT.
18:01:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
ANY PRECEDENT FOR FOUR HOUSES?
18:02:00 >> NO, SIR.
IT BLEW MY MIND WHEN I HEARD THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY
PLANNED ON DOING.
IT WOULD BE LIKE COMING ON MY PROPERTY AND TELLING YOU
KNOW THE CONTRACTOR, OH, CAN YOU FIT TWO MORE HOUSES,
YOU KNOW, ON MY PROPERTY, YOU KNOW.
AND IT JUST -- IT IS NOT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE WOULD WANT
THAT IN OUR AREA THAT WE LIVE, YOU KNOW.
WE ENJOY THIS PRIVILEGE ALL OF US HAD ALMOST OVER 40
YEARS OR A LITTLE BIT BELOW.
WE HAVE BEEN 33 YEARS.
18:02:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
APPRECIATE IT.
18:02:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NEXT SPEAKER.
STATE YOUR NAME, SIR, AND BEGIN SPEAKING.
18:03:03 >> HARRY SKIBBE, 904 WEST HENRY AVENUE.
ME AND MY WIFE.
WE LIVED THERE SINCE 1988.
WHEN WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IT WAS TWO LOTS.
TWO LOTS FOR A REASON, BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T BE FOUR.
WITH THE PEOPLE WE ARE DEALING WITH, YOU ONLY MAKE ONE
FIRST IMPRESSION.
AND THEY HAVE COME UP WITH A LOT OF LIES AND DECEIT.
IT STARTS BACK EVEN WITH TREE REMOVALS FOR THE PROPERTY
DIDN'T HAVE ANY HOUSES BUILT.
FIRST THEY CLAIM THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD ONE HOUSE.
NOW IT IS THREE.
THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE WITHIN 250 FEET THAT ARE
HERE TODAY HAVE OVER 250 YEARS COLLECTIVELY LIVING
THERE.
FOUR HOUSE ALSO IMPACT ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN
THAT AREA AND THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE DOWN HENRY
AVENUE ALL THE WAY TO FLORIDA, WHICH WILL REALLY CREATE
ANOTHER PROBLEM WITH -- WITH TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING.
REMOVING 48 TREES WILL IMPACT A LOT OF THE WILDLIFE
THAT LIVE THERE WHERE THEY ARE GOING.
WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO?
THEY GOT TO LIVE SOMEWHERE TOO.
THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY HAVE BOUGHT IT FOR
INVESTMENT REASONS WITH NO CONCERN FOR THE RESIDENTS
THAT LIVE -- LIVE IN THAT AREA.
AND THE ONES THAT LIVE THERE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR OVER
250 COLLECTIVE YEARS LIKE I SAID EARLIER.
I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE REJECTED.
I CAN SEE ONE HOUSE BEING ADDED BUT NOT THREE.
AND EVERYBODY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THINKS THE SAME
THING.
AND I GUESS YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM A FEW OF THEM.
HAVE YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
18:05:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NO, SIR, THANK YOU.
18:05:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
STATE YOUR NAME AND BEGIN SPEAKING.
18:05:17 >> SAM SELLERS.
LIVE AT 808 WEST HENRY.
I HAVE THE ADJOINING PROPERTY NEXT TO THIS 810 HENRY.
WE WOULD HAVE NEVER KNOWN ANYTHING WAS GOING ON WITH
THIS PROPERTY THAT THE REZONING WAS IN EFFECT.
I WAS CONTACTED BY SABLE ENGINEERING THAT THEY HAD A
TREE THAT THEY WANTED TO BE REMOVED FROM MY PROPERTY.
SO THEY CAN -- THEY SAID IT HAD A DISEASE TO IT.
THAT IS WHAT KIND OF GAVE ME A LITTLE ALARM THAT THEY
WOULD TAKE THE EXPENSE OF REMOVING THIS TREE.
I STARTED LOOKING A LITTLE BIT INTO IT WHEN I ASKED THE
GUY FROM SABLE ENGINEERING WHAT THEIR PLAN WAS ON THIS
PROPERTY.
HE SAID THEY WERE GOING TO REBUILD -- OR BUILD ONE HOME
DOWN BY THE RIVER.
SO I -- I WAS ALL FOR THAT I HAVE NO OBJECTION BUILDING
ONE HOUSE DOWN BY THAT RIVER.
WOULDN'T HAVE AN OBJECTION OF REMOVING THAT TREE IF
THAT'S ALL THEY WERE GOING TO DO.
I WENT TO LOOK INTO IT, I SEE THAT -- PULLED THE SITE
PLAN AND SEE THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD THREE HOUSES ON
THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THAT IS NOT WHAT I WAS TOLD.
I WOULD NEVER HAVE KNOWN THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IF I
NEVER SEEN A SIGN OUT IN FRONT OF YARD.
I PULL IN AND OUT OF THAT DRIVEWAY THREE TO FOUR TIMES
A DAY.
I NEVER SEEN A REZONING SIGN OUT FRONT.
WHEN THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO SEND US CERTIFIED LETTER
BEFORE THE FIRST HEARING.
I NEVER RECEIVED THEM.
I WENT AROUND TO ASK MY NEIGHBORS IF THEY RECEIVED
THEM, NOBODY RECEIVED ANY LETTERS FOR THE REZONING.
I THINK ALL OF THIS WAS KIND OF -- IT WAS TRYING TO BE
DONE BEHIND OUR BACK.
THE TREE REMOVAL PLAN THAT THEY HAVE.
I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO REMOVE -- I THINK 48 TREES.
THAT IS HUGE.
I HAVE A -- FROM THE ROAD TO THE RIVER, THERE ARE
17-FOOT DIFFERENCE FROM THE STREET TO THE RIVER WHERE I
LIVE.
MY HOUSE IS ON THE RIVER.
AND I BOUGHT THE HOUSE THAT WAY.
I DIDN'T BUILD IT.
THERE IS A LOT OF RUNOFF OF WATER DOWN THERE.
WHEN IT RAINS HARD, IT IS SCARY WHEN YOU SEE THE WATER
COME DOWN THAT RIVER ORE COME DOWN THE ROAD TO THE
HOUSE.
I FLOOD VERY EASY.
I -- MY PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 16 INCHES LOWER THAN
THE 810 HENRY.
SO ALL THE WATER RIGHT NOW RUNS OFF, YOU KNOW, ON TO MY
PROPERTY.
I HAD TO DIG TRENCHES ON EACH SIDE OF MY PROPERTY TO
GET THE WATER TO NOT GO THROUGH MY GARAGES OR MY HOUSE.
AND SO IT HAS BEEN A BIG PROBLEM.
I THINK WITH THE PARK UP THE STREET.
AND THE PARK IS A VERY, VERY ACTIVE PARK.
THE CARS ON THE SATURDAY, WEEKENDS ARE PARKED ALL THE
WAY UP AND DOWN THE ROAD.
THERE ARE SOME NEW HOUSES THAT WERE BUILT THAT DON'T
HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THOSE.
SO THOSE PEOPLE PARK IN THE STREET.
SO A LOT OF TIME ON A SATURDAY OR WEEKEND WHEN I GO TO
PULL OUT, I CANNOT GO DOWN HENRY.
I GOT TO GO AROUND THE BLOCK BECAUSE NO ROOM FOR ME TO
GET DOWN HENRY.
18:08:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
18:08:34 >> THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS?
18:08:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NO, SIR, NO QUESTIONS.
18:08:56 >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
18:08:59 >> MY NAME IS ROGER THEO, 809 WEST HENRY.
IN ADDITION I OWN 805 WEST HENRY, 5909.
18:09:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
CAN YOU COME CLOSER TO THE MIC,
SIR.
18:09:15 >> SORRY.
WITHIN THE 250 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
I AM NOT AGAINST IMPROVEMENTS.
A SECOND HOME ON THE PROPERTY WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT,
BUT WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING IS ANYTHING BUT AN
IMPROVEMENT.
THEY PURCHASED PROPERTY A YEAR AGO ACTUALLY THIS MONTH.
AND THEY KNEW IT WAS TWO LOTS WHEN THEY PURCHASED IT.
SO IT AND THAT THEY HAD BEEN PLANNING THIS THE WHOLE
TIME.
AND IF YOU ARE ALLOWED TO LET THEM DO THIS.
THEY WILL MOVE -- 40-PLUS TREES.
I LOST COUNT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WILL DO TO THE
ENVIRONMENT, THE RUNOFF COMING FROM THIS PROPERTY, FROM
REZONING IT, ALL OF THE WATER THAT IS CURRENTLY GOING
INTO THE PERVIOUS GROUND WILL ALL BE DIRECTED INTO THE
RIVER.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HELPS ANYBODY.
I MEAN, THIS IS A COMPLETE OVERBUILD OF THE PROPERTY.
IN FACT, I LOOK TODAY AND IT IS ACTUALLY FOR SALE ON
ZILLOW AT DOUBLE THE COST OF WHAT THEY PURCHASED THIS
PROPERTY FOR.
SO EVIDENTLY SOMEBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
THE NOTICES THEY SENT OUT AGAIN LIKE THE PREVIOUS
PERSON SAID, NOBODY GOT THEM.
I DIDN'T GET THEM.
I SHOULD HAVE GOT FOUR OF THEM.
I DIDN'T GET THEM.
SIGN DID DISAPPEAR.
DISAPPEAR LIKE SOMEBODY IS JUST TRYING TO GET IN THERE,
GET THE MONEY, USE THE CODE, SWITCH THE CODES AROUND,
CHANGE SOME ZONINGS SO THEY CAN DO IT ALL FOR PROFIT
AND THEN WALK AWAY.
I HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED REAL CLOSELY AT THE DRAWINGS.
THE GARBAGE AREA AT THE FRONT, WELL, LESS THAN
DESIRABLE.
NOT LARGE ENOUGH MOST LIKELY AND IT JUST DOESN'T APPEAR
-- DOESN'T APPEAR LIKE IT IS ANYTHING THAT IS GOOD TO
HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANYBODY THERE WHO EVEN WANTS
IT.
LIKE I SAID, THE NOTICE, THE POSTING, THE MAILERS,
EVERYTHING WAS DONE AS IF SOMEBODY KNOWS HOW -- HOW THE
ZONING WORKS.
HOW THE THINGS HAVE TO BE DONE FOR THE HEARINGS.
I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE HEARINGS OR THE SECOND
HEARING UNLESS IF IT WEREN'T FOR A FEW OF MY NEIGHBORS.
I CAN'T HELP BUT STRESS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO TO
THE ENVIRONMENT TAKING ALL THOSE TREES OUT.
AND ACTUALLY MORE TREES THAN I THOUGHT.
AND MY HOPE IS THAT YOU WILL NOT APPROVE THIS TO BE
DONE AS -- BECAUSE IT IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING GOOD
FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU.
18:12:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
18:12:05 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, GENTLEMEN.
MY NAME IS ROBERT HARRISON.
I OWN TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE VERY CLOSE TO THIS
PROPERTY.
FRONT PARCEL 808 WEST HENRY, WHICH IS ADJACENT AND
ACROSS THE STREET 11 WEST HENRY.
MY FAMILY OWNED PROPERTY ON -- ADJACENT TO THIS
PROPERTY FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS.
AND ALL THESE PROPERTIES -- THE CURRENT ZONING OF RURAL
SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IS VERY WELL PRESERVED.
THE NATURE AND APPEAL OF -- OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
INCREASING THE DENSITY OF ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES WILL
CHANGE.
I AM AGAINST ANY OF -- INCREASING ANY OF DENSITY WHICH
WOULD DO SO.
OUR STREETS ARE NARROW.
WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF ANY
DRIVEWAYS.
AND I -- I URGE YOU TO KEEP THINGS AS THEY ARE.
TWO HOUSES PER PARCEL WHICH THE WAY IT IS, IT HAS BEEN,
AND THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
QUESTIONS.
18:13:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
18:13:38 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, KEN SWIBERGER, 804 WEST HENRY, WHICH
IS A COUPLE OF STREETS -- A COUPLE OF LOTS DOWN.
WE HAVE A LOT THAT RUN ALMOST 600 FEET FROM THE STREET
FROM THE RIVER.
WE LIVE IN A PARADISE.
WE HAVE ARTESIAN WELLS AND HAWKS.
OWLS.
AND IT IS A BEAUTIFUL -- IT IS A FLORIDA PARADISE.
AGAIN, I HEARD IT A COUPLE OF TIMES.
WE RECEIVED NO NOTICE.
I NEVER SEEN NOTICE BY THE PROPERTY.
LET ME JUST TELL YOU THE KING TIDES ON.
HIGH PROPERTY AND SOUTHERLY WINDS, IT FLOODS 150 FEET
INTO MY PROPERTY.
TO BUILD ANYTHING WITHOUT ELEVATING IT OR BUILDING DOWN
INTO THE BEDROCK, I WOULD THINK IS FOOLISH.
ONCE YOU DO THAT YOU WILL DISRUPT MY ARTESIAN WELLS.
YOU WILL BUILD SO HIGH THAT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE
THE SKY AT NIGHT.
I HEARD THE TREES MENTIONED SO MANY TIMES.
TO CUT DOWN A 100-YEAR-OLD OAK BECAUSE ONE LIMB ROTTING
ON IT IS CRAZY.
AND WE, THE CITY OF TAMPA, Y'ALL, US, WE ALL LET THEM
DO IT.
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
THEY ARE OVERBUILDING.
THIS IS TWO LOTS.
MY GRANDPARENTS HAD THIS LOT.
MY PARENTS HAD THIS LOT.
I HAVE IT.
AND NOW MY CHILDREN LIVE IN IT.
FOUR GENERATIONS HAVE LIVED IN MY HOME AND IT IS TWO
LOTS.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE HOUSE.
WE WON'T SEE US BUILDING TWO HOUSES ON IT, WHICH IS
ACCEPTABLE, BUT FOUR IS OUT OF THE QUESTION.
I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO NOT LET THEM DO THIS.
THANK YOU.
18:15:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
QUESTION, SIR.
MR. CHAIR.
18:15:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:15:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
HOW FAR AWAY IS YOUR FAMILY'S
PROPERTY FROM THE SUBJECT.
18:15:25 >> 804, SO THREE LOTS DOWN.
18:15:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THREE LOTS DOWN.
AND YOU ARE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THAT STRETCH ALONG
THERE.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED THERE?
18:15:33 >> 60 YEARS.
18:15:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
60 YEARS.
ALL RIGHT.
SO CAN -- CAN YOU TESTIFY IN REGARD TO THE PROPOSED
COMPATIBILITY OF FOUR UNITS AS COMPARED TO WHAT I
BELIEVE YOU SAID MOST PEOPLE HAVE ONE VERSUS TWO.
IS THAT ACCURATE?
18:15:54 >> I BELIEVE SO.
18:15:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I AM SORRY?
18:15:57 >> I BELIEVE SO.
18:15:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, SIR.
18:16:19 >> THANK YOU.
18:16:24 >> ROLAND VIXLER, 910 WEST HENRY AVENUE.
18:16:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
LITTLE CLOSER PLEASE.
18:16:30 >> MY ALLOTTED TIME WILL BE TURNED OVER TO MY WIFE
GERALDINE HOLIDAY.
18:16:34 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
AND I HAVE THE PAPERWORK.
18:16:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
18:16:37 >> HELLO.
MY NAME IS GERALDINE HOLLOWAY, AND I LIVE 910 WEST HENRY
AVENUE.
I OWN EIGHT PROPERTIES ON WEST HENRY, THREE OF WHICH
ARE WITHIN 250 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
I GREW UP IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
AND I HAVE LIVED ON HENRY AVENUE FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
I HAVE SEEN MANY CHANGES DURING THAT TIME.
MOST OF THEM HAVE NOT BEEN POSITIVE.
18:17:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MA'AM, STAND IN FRONT OF THE MIC A
LITTLE BIT.
18:17:06 >> DO I NEED TO REPEAT?
18:17:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IF YOU WOULD.
18:17:11 >> I LIVED ON HENRY AVENUE FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND I HAVE
SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES DURING THAT TIME.
MOST OF THOSE ARE NOT REALLY BEEN POSITIVE.
LOT SPLITS.
DEMOLITIONS.
MCMANSIONS HAVE ALL INCREASED TRAFFIC, DECREASED GREEN
SPACE, DESTROYED HABITATS AND GENERALLY DIMINISHED OUR
QUALITY OF LIFE.
WHEN I MOVED TO HENRY AVENUE, IT WAS NOT UNCOMMON TO
SEE RACCOON FAMILIES, TORTOISES, OWLS AND OTHER
WILDLIFE.
THAT HAS CHANGED.
WHEN I MOVED THERE, THE RIVER ONLY OVERFLOWED ITS BANKS
DURING HURRICANES.
OVERDEVELOPMENT IN COMBINATION WITH GLOBAL WARMING HAVE
CAUSED THE RIVER TO YO FLOW DURING HURRICANE SEASON AND
ACTUALLY MOST OF THE YEAR.
TODAY WHEN I LEFT THE HOUSE, THE RIVER WAS ABOUT EIGHT
INCHES BELOW MY DOCK.
WHICH HAS CREATED ITS OWN PROBLEMS.
NOW THE RIVER REGULARLY OVERFLOWS THE BANKS AND FLOODS
THE PROPERTIES.
HIGHER TIDES AND RUNOFF FROM ADJACENT STREETS HAVE
RAISED THE WATER TABLE SUBSTANTIALLY AND THE GROUND
STAYS SATURATED MOST OF TIME.
THE LOTS ALONG HENRY AVENUE WERE PLATTED THE WAY THEY
WERE FOR THE REASON.
THE BACK PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTIES WERE MUCH LOWER
THAN THEY ARE AT THE STREET.
AND THEY BASICALLY WERE INTENDED, I BELIEVE, TO AFFORD
DRAINAGE TO THE STREET AND THE PROPERTIES AT THE
STREET.
ALTHOUGH SOME OF THE BACK PARCELS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED,
THERE IS NO PRECEDENT FOR PUTTING FOUR HOUSES ON A
SINGLE PLATTED LOT.
THERE ARE A FEW THAT HAVE TWO HOUSES AND PROBABLY ABOUT
HALF ONLY HAVE ONE ON THEM.
THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE
DEVELOPED.
THE QUESTION IS SHOULD IT BE DEVELOPED IN THE MANNER
THAT THEY ARE SEEKING TO DO.
WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THIS APPLICATION.
DON'T LET OUTSIDERS COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND DESTROY
OUR PEACE OF PARADISE.
PANDORA'S BOX CANNOT BE CLOSED ONCE IT IS OPENED.
THANK YOU.
18:19:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
18:19:55 >> HELLO, CITY COUNCIL, MICHAEL GRAHAM, 900 WEST
HENRY.
18:19:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CAN YOU PULL THE MIC UP.
18:20:02 >> I LIVE AT 900 WEST HENRY, THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO
THE WEST OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES THIS WILL EFFECT ME
DIRECTLY BUILDING FOUR HOMES.
ALL HOMES THERE ARE AT LEAST OLDER HOMES.
FOUR NEW HOMES WILL BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
TAKING DOWN TREES WILL ABSOLUTELY BE A HORRIBLE.
OPPOSED TO THE ENTIRE IDEA OF IT ALL.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THE MATTER.
18:20:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
18:20:53 >> QUESTIONS
18:20:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU CAN BEGIN AT ANY TIME, MA'AM.
18:20:57 >> GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS KAREN GRAHAM.
YOU JUST HEARD FROM MY HUSBAND, SCOTT.
WE OWN AND RESIDE AT 900 WEST HENRY AVENUE WHICH IS
DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
WE HAVE LIVED IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS FOR OVER 23 YEARS.
ONE OF THINGS WE LOVED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE THE
PLENTIFUL MATURE TREES AND NATURAL AREAS, PARTICULARLY
ON THE RIVERSIDE TO HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
MANY BIRDS SUCH AS OWLS, HAWKS AND OTHER WILDLIFE
INHABIT THE AREA WHICH IS RATHER UNIQUE IN CENTRAL
TAMPA AS YOU ALREADY KNOW.
THE PROPERTY BETWEEN OUR HOME AND 902 DIRECTLY BEHIND
US ON THE RIVER HAS INTENTIONALLY BEEN KEPT UNDEVELOPED
AND NATURAL TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROPERTY
AND THE SITE PLAINS TO HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
IN FACT, WE HAVE REMOVED A DETACHED SHED MEANS YEAR AGO
TO FURTHER OPEN THE SPACE.
THE TREES AND LANDSCAPE ARE NOT ONLY BEAUTIFUL BUT ALSO
ESSENTIALLY TO MUFFLE TRAFFIC NOISE OF BUSY
HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE ACROSS THE RIVER.
WE BOTH STRONGLY OBJECT TO THE APPLICATION OF REZONING
FOR THE APPLICANT TO BUILD THREE ADDITIONAL HOMES UNDER
A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS EXCESSIVE, INCONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBOR AND
WILL BE DETRIMENTAL IN MANY WAYS.
REMOVING TREE ALSO NOT ONLY IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT BUT
HAVE IMPACT TO STORMWATER RUNOFF.
THE INCREASED TRAFFIC FOR THREE ADDITIONAL HOMES ON
SUBJECT PROPERTY ITSELF WITH A ONE-WAY INGRESS AND
EGRESS WILL HAVE BACKUPS ON HENRY AVENUE.
OUR HOME IS LOCATED JUST OFF THE STREET WITH OUR MASTER
BEDROOM AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE BORDERING THAT SAID
INGRESS-EGRESS.
BLARING HEADLIGHTS AND WINDOWS AT NIGHT ALONG WITH A
ACCOMPANIED NOISE IS A MAJOR CONCERN FOR US.
ALREADY AN ISSUE WITH THROUGH TRAFFIC COMING DOWN HENRY
AVENUE ONLY TO HIT THE DEAD END AND TURN AROUND OR
OTHERWISE EXIT OFTEN ON EXCESSIVE SPEEDS.
LIVING DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WE
HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY POSTED SIGNS OF A REZONING HEARING.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TO MISS IF IT HAD BEEN
MADE PROPERLY AVAILABLE TO SEE BY ALL NEIGHBORS WHO
WOULD BE POTENTIALLY IMPACTING BY THE REZONING.
WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU DENY THE REQUEST TO
REZONE.
APPROVING WILL SET A DANGEROUS PRECEDENCE FOR FUTURE
OVERDEVELOPMENT OF OUR BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SEMINOLE
HEIGHTS NEIGHBOR.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
18:23:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:23:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MA'AM, SEVERAL PEOPLE SAID YOU
DIDN'T SEE THE SIGN.
YOU LIVE DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR.
18:23:46 >> CORRECT.
18:23:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
DO YOU GET YOUR MAIL NEXT DOOR?
18:23:52 >> OUR MAILBOX IS ON OUR HOME AND YOUR DRIVEWAY IS NEXT
TO 810.
SO WE ENTER AND EXIT AND PASS DAILY.
18:23:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
RIGHT.
DID YOU GET A WRITTEN NOTICE ABOUT THIS?
A PIECE OF PAPER THAT TALKED ABOUT THE UPCOMING
HEARING?
18:24:09 >> I GOT ONE NOTICE DATED DECEMBER 14.
AND THIS WAS IT.
18:24:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
DECEMBER 14.
18:24:15 >> OTHER THAN THAT, NO.
NOTHING POSTED IN THE YARD, EVER.
18:24:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
DID ANYBODY REACH OUT TO YOU, THE
BUILDER OR THE DEVELOPER OR OWNER REACH OUT TO YOU AS
THE NEIGHBORS TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE PROJECT?
18:24:27 >> IN PERSON?
18:24:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
CORRECT.
18:24:30 >> NEVER, NO, SIR.
18:24:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
BY PHONE OR NOTHING?
18:24:35 >> NO, NOT AT ALL.
18:24:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
18:24:56 >> THANK YOU.
18:24:58 >>> GOOD EVENING, MICHAEL HICKEY --
18:25:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
LIFT THE MIC UP A LITTLE BIT SO YOU
DON'T STRAIN YOUR NECK.
18:25:06 >> 902 WEST HENRY AVENUE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY THAT
WANTS TO BE DEVELOPED.
I AM GIVING MY TIME TO MY WIFE, CINDY.
18:25:14 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
AND I HAVE HER PAPERWORK.
18:25:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MISS AILEEN.
18:25:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FOUR MINUTES THEN.
18:25:22 >> I THOUGHT IT WAS SIX.
18:25:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AN EXTRA MINUTE.
18:25:26 >> I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH ALL MY STATEMENT.
I AM VERY NERVOUS.
I TYPED THIS ALL OUT.
MY NAME IS CINDY HICKEY.
902 WEST HENRY AVENUE WHICH IS DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF
IN PROPERTY.
WE HAVE BEEN THERE 39 YEARS.
WE CALL IT OUR LITTLE SLICE OF HEAVEN AS YOU CAN SEE
FROM THE SITE AERIAL PLAN.
LARGE LOTS AROUND THE RIVER, HABITATS OF MANY KIND.
I WOULD PERSONALLY WITNESS BIRDS SEEKING OUT THE
CORRIDOR OF THIS PROPERTY NEXT TO US TO GO IN AND OUT
OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ARE HERE TONIGHT IN SPITE OF THE APPLICANT'S EFFORTS
TO PUSH THIS REZONING THROUGH WITHOUT ALLOWING
NEIGHBORS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
YOU HAVE 11 STATEMENTS FILED.
EIGHT OF WHICH ARE THE 250-FEET NEIGHBORS THAT WE WERE
NEVER -- WE NEVER RECEIVED A NOTICE ON -- WHEN IT WAS
FIRST SCHEDULED FOR HEARING ON OCTOBER 28.
AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A SIGN.
YOU CAN HEAR FROM SOMEONE WHO WILL COME IN REMOTELY WHO
WITNESSED SOMEONE PUT THE SIGN UP.
TAKE A PICTURE, TAKE IT DOWN.
SO I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THEY COULD HAVE COME TO YOU ON
OCTOBER 28, AND WOULD HAVE BEEN NO OPPOSITION AT ALL.
THEY NEVER RESIDED ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND UNDERSTANDABLY THEY DON'T VALUE THE LAND OTHER THAN
HOW MUCH MONEY THAT CAN BE MADE.
PROPERTY OWNER WITNESS 250 FEET MANY OF WHOM LIVE
IN THEIR HOMES FOR DECADES AS YOU HEARD TONIGHT AND IF
YOU READ THE STATEMENTS.
EVERY ONE OF THEM OPPOSES THIS REZONING, AND THEY SAY
IN THEIR STATEMENTS, NO NOTICE FOR THE FIRST HEARING.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT -- THE STAFF REPORT FINDS THAT
IT IS CONSISTENT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, NONE OF
WHICH TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE MAGNITUDE OF DESIGN,
ELEVATION WITH THE SITE PLAN SHOW SINGLE STORY.
THEY DID TOUCH ON THAT WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE
TWO-STORY OR STILT OR ELEVATIONS OF 12 FEET.
THERE ARE NO OTHER LOTS ON HENRY AVENUE WITH FOUR
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.
THE LAYOUT IS CONTRARY TO THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS VILLAGE
CONCEPT WHICH ENCOURAGES FRONT PORCHES WHERE PEOPLE CAN
GATHER AND INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER.
THE STAFF REPORT SAY THAT THE LOTS I LIVE ON HAVE THREE
ZONING LOTS THAT IMPLIES THREE STRUCTURES TO -- THAT IS
MISLEADING, TWO RESIDENCE, MINE AND THE LADY YOU JUST
HEARD FROM.
THE THIRD LOT LACK AN EGRESS, INGRESS.
AND NOT BUILDABLE UNLESS IT IS REZONED.
SECTION 136 REQUIRES THAT YOU GIVE CONSIDERATION OF
POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS OF SURROUNDED NEIGHBORHOOD
AND CULTURAL RESOURCES.
NOTHING OF THE PROPOSED PLAN ADHERES TO THIS.
JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY WHO DIDN'T LIVE ON HENRY AVENUE
OF A COMPREHENSIVE THAT DAY TEN HOUSES CAN BE BUILT ON
AN ACRE OF LAND DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN PUT FOUR ON A LOT
AND DESTROY NATURAL BEAUTY AND HABITAT.
NOTHING OF COVERING THE LAND FOR IMPERVIOUS MATERIALS
CONSIDERS THE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NATURAL ELEMENTS.
WETLAND AND TREES TO BE CONSIDERED AND NO CONSIDERATION
HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ALREADY SUFFERS FROM TRAFFIC AND
DRAINAGE APPROXIMATE.
THIS PROJECT WILL ONLY CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.
THIS IS NOT UNDERUTILIZED LAND.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED FOR TWO HOUSE SO AS THE APPLICANT
CAN BUILD ANOTHER HOUSE WITHOUT REZONING THE PROPERTY.
BY MY COUNT, THERE ARE 12 SIMILAR LOTS.
NONE HAVE MORE THAN TWO HOUSES AND HALF ONLY HAVE ONLY
ONE.
THIS PLAN IS APPROVED IT WILL DESTROY THE ECOSYSTEMS OF
ALL THESE WATERFRONT LOTS.
SORRY, BUT I HAD SIX MINUTES.
18:29:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GO AHEAD AND FINISH.
YOU LIVE 250 FEET AWAY FROM THAT PROPERTY.
18:29:08 >> THANK YOU.
I TALKED A LOT ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT IS
IMPORTANT TO ME.
BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THIS PROJECT DIRECTLY IMPACTS
OUR PROPERTY AND QUALITIES OF LIFE.
THE SITE PLAN DOES NOT MAKE IT CLEAR WHETHER THE LAND
ELEVATIONS ARE ACTUAL OR PROPOSED NOR DOES IT SHOW HOW
MUCH FILL WILL BE REQUIRED TO CONSTRUCT THREE MORE
HOUSES.
REGARDLESS OF EFFORTS TO KEEP THE WATER RUNOFF FROM
ADJOINING PROPERTIES, WE KNOW THE IMPACT ANY EXTRA
WATER WILL HAVE ON OUR PROPERTY.
YOU HEARD FROM SOMEONE PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THE ELEVATION
FROM THE ROAD, WE ARE ABOUT 18 INCHES LOWER THAN THAT
PROPERTY.
YOU HAVE SOME PICTURES ON FILE THAT SHOW MINE.
PICTURES THAT HAVE NUMBERS 12, 14 AND 16.
WE ALREADY TAKE TOMORROW OF THE STORMWATER THAT FLOWS
600 FEET DOWN THAT PROPERTY FROM THE STREET.
IT SCARES ME TO THINK HOW MUCH MORE WATER WILL BE
DIVERTED ON TO OUR PROPERTY IF THIS PROJECT IS
APPROVED.
THE SUBJECT LOT AND OTHERS ARE ESSENTIAL PARTS OF OUR
ECOSYSTEM AND STORMWATER RUNOFF.
THEY CLEANSE THE WATER ONCE IT MAKES IT TO THE RIVER
AND IMPROVE THE.
THESE ECO SYSTEMS SHOULD BE PRESERVED NOT DESTROYED.
MY NEIGHBORS AND I COME HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE
WHO LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO DESTROY IT.
ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS SAID IN THE STATEMENT, YOU DON'T
KNOW WHAT YOU GOT UNTIL IT IS GONE.
DENY THIS REZONING APPLICATION AND THANK YOU COUNCILMAN
DINGFELDER FOR ASKING YOUR MOST POINTED QUESTIONS TO
WHAT HAS BEEN SAID TONIGHT AND I THINK THAT IS IT.
I AM NERVOUS.
18:30:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:30:54 >> THANK YOU.
18:30:56 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
AILEEN ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
18:31:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HOW MANY DO WE HAVE.
18:31:06 >>CLERK:
THREE.
ONE SHOWED UP IN PERSON AND TWO ONLINE.
I WANT TO STATE THAT THIS PROPERTY DID PROVIDE PROPER
NOTICE AND DOCUMENTS ARE ON FILE WITH THE CITY CLERK'S
OFFICE.
ALSO THIS CASE WAS CONTINUED FROM JANUARY 20, 2022 AND
COUNCIL WAIVED THE 180-DAY RULES.
18:31:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
18:31:28 >>CLERK:
YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN
IN.
18:31:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SWEAR THE TWO GENTLEMEN IN.
18:31:35 >>CLERK:
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE
TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
18:31:43 >> I DO.
18:31:44 >>CLERK:
THANK YOU.
18:31:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE WILL START WITH BRENT.
18:31:53 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME.
18:31:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
18:31:57 >> AWESOME.
BRENT HENSEY.
093 WEST HENRY AVENUE WITHIN 250 FEET OF THIS PROPERTY.
ON SEPTEMBER 27, 2021, AROUND 8 P.M., I PERSONAL
PERSONALLY WITNESSED A GENTLEMAN PUT A PUBLIC NOTICE
SIGN IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
TAKE A PICTURE OF IT.
QUICKLY TAKE THE SIGN DOWN AND GO INTO HIS TRUCK AND
LEAVE.
SO TO SAY THAT SHADY IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
REGARDLESS OF THAT, I REJECT TO THE REZONING JUST ON
THE GROUNDS THAT THIS IS HORRIBLE FOR COMMUNITY.
I LIVE HERE FOR A REASON.
AND IF THIS GOES THROUGH, ILLINOIS LEAVE.
THAT IS REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
18:32:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SIR, DID YOU TAKE A PICTURE OF THE
GENTLEMAN OR TRUCK OR VEHICLE?
I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.
18:32:50 >> I DID NOT TAKE A PICTURE OF THE GENTLEMAN AS HE WAS
TAKING PICTURE OF THE SIGN AND QUICKLY REMOVING IT.
18:32:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
18:32:57 >>LUIS VIERA:
MR. CHAIR.
18:32:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:33:02 >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANT TO FOLLOW UP, IF I MAY.
JUST BECAUSE MR. BRENT -- WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS PRETTY
DARN SERIOUS AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
JUST -- YOU KNOW THIS, BUT YOU ARE UNDER OATH, CORRECT?
AND YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE UNDER OATH.
18:33:15 >> I RAISED MY HAND.
I SAW WHAT I SAW.
18:33:17 >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
AND, AGAIN, I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT.
AND YOU ARE TELLING THE TRUTH, ETC., ETC.
BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD.
BECAUSE THAT IS A PRETTY SERIOUS ALLEGATION THERE.
THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
18:33:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
MISS WELLS.
18:33:41 >>CATE WELLS:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I APOLOGIZE
FOR JUMPING IN AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
I HAVE GONE GOING THROUGH THE RECORDS WHEN THIS
APPLICATION WAS FIRST SCHEDULED FOR A HEARING BACK IN
OCTOBER AND AT THAT TIME NOTICE -- THE CITY CLERK
RECEIVED AN AFFIDAVIT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE NOTICE
REQUIREMENT SHOWING THAT NOTICE WENT OUT ON SEPTEMBER
21.
WHAT I AM HAVING A HARD TIME KIND OF LINING UP RIGHT
NOW IS THE FACT THAT WHEN THIS WAS SCHEDULED ON OCTOBER
28, MY RECORDS SHOW -- AND I NEED THE CLERK TO CON FIRM
IN FOR THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THAT NIGHT.
I HAVE A NOTATION IN MY FILE THAT THIS WAS MISNOTICED
FOR THE OCTOBER 28 HEARING.
AND IT WAS THEN RESCHEDULED IN JANUARY.
WHAT I DO NOT KNOW IS IF MY NOTES ARE ACCURATE AND THIS
-- AND THE RECORD SHOW THEY MISNOTICED FOR OCTOBER,
THEN THE NOTICE THAT WENT OUT IN SEPTEMBER WOULD NOT BE
RELEVANT FOR PURPOSES OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.
AND I NEED TO KNOW IF THE CLERK'S OFFICE RECEIVED AN
AFFIDAVIT OF NOTICE FROM THE APPLICANT WHEN THIS WOULD
HAVE BEEN RESCHEDULED IN JANUARY.
SO I -- I HATE TO INTERRUPT, BUT I -- I DON'T HAVE
COMPLETE RECORDS SINCE THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE FILED WITH
THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE ISSUE OF NOTICE BECAUSE
WE HAVE QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS RAISING
THAT ISSUE.
18:35:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MADAM CLERK.
18:35:10 >>CLERK:
SEEMS LIKE IN OCTOBER, YES, IT WAS MISNOTICED
AND ENTERED AGAIN INTO THE SYSTEM DECEMBER 13 BY ANNIE
BARNES.
MAYBE ANNIE BARNES CAN COMMENT.
MAYBE SHE CAN RESPOND TO THAT.
18:35:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MISS BARNES.
18:35:26 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
I AM SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR THE TAIL END.
I WOULDN'T CONFIRM NOTICE FOR JANUARY.
THAT WOULD BE THE CLERK.
18:35:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MADAM.
18:35:37 >>CLERK:
WE DID RECEIVE THE NOTICE FOR THE
JANUARY HEARING.
BUT IN OCTOBER, IT WAS A MISNOTICE.
18:35:46 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
OKAY.
I APPRECIATE IT CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THAT WAS BEING
ASKED EARLIER BY E-MAILS IF THERE WAS A MISNOTICED AND
THE ONLY DOCUMENTS I HAD AVAILABLE WERE THE ONES FILED
IN SEPTEMBER.
SO ELAINE JUST SENT ME THE AFFIDAVIT OF NOTICE THAT WAS
SUBSEQUENTLY FILED WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE IN JANUARY
SHOWING THAT NOTICE WENT OUT ON DECEMBER 21 OF 2021 FOR
THE HEARING THAT WAS SCHEDULED ON JANUARY 20.
AND INCLUDED WITH THAT AFFIDAVIT IS A CERTIFICATE OF
MAILING THAT SHOW THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE MAILED
NOTICE.
I CAN'T CONFIRM THAT THEY RECEIVED IT, BUT THEY WERE
MAILED NOTICES.
AND THAT INCLUDES SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT
SPOKE POINT TAMPA ROGER FIELD MENTIONED HE OWNS FOUR
PARCELS.
ALL FOUR OF THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN THE CERTIFICATE OF
MAILING.
I ALSO SHOW ROBERT HARRISON.
I BELIEVE HE SPOKE THIS EVENING.
WE ALSO -- MICHAEL AND CINDY HICKEY WERE INCLUDED IN
THE CERTIFICATE OF MAILING.
EVIDENTLY THEY HAVE TWO PARCELS OF PROPERTY MAYBE -- OR
IT WAS DUPLICATED.
AND KAREN GRAHAM ALSO.
SO BASED ON THE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED WITH THE
CLERK'S OFFICE, WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT NOTICE
WAS PROPERLY COMPLETED FOR THE JANUARY HEARING WHICH
WAS THEN CONTINUED TO THIS EVENING.
AND THEY WERE NOT REQUIRED TO RENOTICE.
SO I APOLOGIZE FOR TAKING UP YOUR TIME, BUT I THINK IT
IS IMPORTANT THAT THE RECORD BE CLEAR SINCE THAT ISSUE
CAME UP A FEW TIMES.
THANK YOU.
18:37:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CARLSON AND MR. DINGFELDER.
18:37:37 >>BILL CARLSON:
I APPRECIATE YOU GOING THROUGH THAT
AND NECESSARY FOR THE RECORD ON SIGNS SO THAT -- IF I
HEARD THE ALLEGATION CORRECT, A SIGN WAS PUT DOWN AND
TAKEN OUT.
DO WE -- DO THE CITY HAVE A PROCESS WHERE WE CHECK
MULTIPLE DATES OR JUST ACCEPT A PICTURE AND NOT VERIFY
THAT THE SIGN STAYS UP FOR THE TIME REQUIRED.
18:37:59 >>CATE WELLS:
THE CODE DOESN'T REQUIRE FOR THE SIGN TO
BE MAINTAINED THE ENTIRE PERIOD OF TIME FROM THE DATE
OF POSTING.
AND WHAT IS REQUIRED BY CODE IS THAT THE SIGN --
PICTURES OF THE SIGN BE TAKEN BOTH FAR AWAY SO YOU KNOW
IT IS ON THE PARCEL OF PROPERTY THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF
THE REZONING AND CLOSE-UP SO YOU CAN READ WHAT IS
WRITTEN ON THE SIGN.
BECAUSE THE AFFIDAVIT OF COMPLIANCE UNDER OATH YOU HAVE
TO TAKE IT AT THEIR WORD.
A SIGN MAY HAVE BEEN POSTED ON THE DAY IT WAS REQUIRED
TO AND WASN'T THERE AFTER MAINTAINED, OUR GOAD DOESN'T
ADDRESS THAT AND IT DOES COME UP IN PREVIOUS SETTINGS
AND THE CHALLENGE WOULD BE HOW DOES ONE ENSURE THAT THE
SIGN IS MAINTAINED FOR THE ENTER PERIOD OF TIME IN
ADVANCE OF THE HEARING.
NOT THE ANSWER THAT YOU WANT, BUT THE CODE JUST
REQUIRES THAT THE SIGN BE POSTED A CERTAIN PERIOD OF
TIME IN ADVANCE OF THE HEARING.
AND THEN EVIDENCE OF THAT IS PROVIDED TO US BY
PHOTOGRAPHS AND THEN THE AFFIDAVIT.
18:39:09 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
18:39:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:39:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I WAS GOING TO ASK BRENT A
QUESTION.
IS HE GONE NOW?
18:39:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
DO YOU STILL HAVE HIM, MADAM CLERK?
18:39:24 >> I'M HERE.
18:39:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
BRENT, EXCUSE ME FOR NOT
REMEMBERING, APPROXIMATELY WHAT MONTH DID YOU SEE THIS
PERSON PUT THE SIGN OUTS AND REMOVE IT.
WAS IT BACK IN THE FALL OR WAS IT IN THE DECEMBER,
JANUARY AREA?
18:39:40 >> SEPTEMBER 22.
18:39:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SORRY?
18:39:44 >> SEPTEMBER 27.
18:39:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR.
18:39:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
WE WILL GO TO DANIEL HARRISON.
18:39:56 >> YES.
I AM DANIEL HARRISON, AND I LIVE AT 709 WEST HENRY, WHICH IS
SIX PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, AND I HAVE BEEN THERE 36 YEARS.
I GREW UP AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT 808 WEST HENRY
BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE MY UNCLE LIVED.
I WANT TO OPPOSE THIS THING BECAUSE THIS IS NOT
CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IN THE WORLD HAS BEEN THERE FOR
ALL THESE YEARS AN AS THE PEOPLE SPOKE, THIS IS NOT
WHAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS ABOUT.
AND I WOULD REALLY REQUEST THAT YOU ALL DENY THIS
REQUEST SO THAT WE DON'T SET A PRECEDENT, BECAUSE ONCE
THIS HAPPENS ONCE, THEN BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, RIGHT
ON THE LINE.
EVERYBODY CAN JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON.
YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE GETTING OLDER AND RETIRE AND
EVERYTHING, BUT WE WANT TO PRESERVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD
THE WAY IT IS FOR THE YEARS TO COME.
THE AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ADDED ON HENRY STREET
RIGHT NOW WE ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE PARKING
ON THE STREET, ON HENRY STREET.
AND YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE HENRY OLA PARK AND INCREASING
THAT TRAFFIC FLOW PAST HENRY.
I THINK ONE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED THAT THE PARK DURING
EVENTS IS LINED UP WITH CARS ALL THE WAY DOWN HENRY
STREET.
AND HE IS NOT EXAGGERATING.
HE IS NOT EXAGGERATING NOT ONE BIT AND A LOT OF KIDS
OUT THERE.
AND ADDING MORE DENSITY TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT DESIGNED FOR IT.
IT NEVER WAS AND NEVER SHOULD BE.
I WOULD STRONGLY URGE TO YOU DENY THIS REQUEST.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
18:41:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
IS THAT IS ALL WE HAVE FOR THE SPEAKERS.
WE WILL GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT FOR REBUTTAL.
18:41:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF STAFF.
18:41:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GO AHEAD, MR. DINGFELDER.
18:41:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND, SIR.
I HAD A QUESTION OF STAFF.
ANNIE.
18:42:01 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
18:42:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES, MA'AM.
THERE WAS AN INDICATION THAT THE -- AND MAYBE YOU SAID
THIS IN YOUR OPENING COMMENTS THAT THE CURRENT ZONING
WOULD ALLOW FOR TWO -- FOR TWO HOMES AS A MATTER OF
RIGHT BASED UPON WHAT -- ON THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ZONING
THAT IS ON PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
18:42:25 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
AN EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT BACK IN 2006.
AND THAT WAS Z0676.
AND THE ASSOCIATED ORDINANCE 2006-198.
IN THAT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, THERE WERE TWO -- TWO
HOMES AND TWO LOTS ON THE WHOLE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
18:42:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I SEE.
18:42:51 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
IT HAS BEEN A WHILE.
I AM NOT SURE IF A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE WILL BE NEEDED IF
THEY TRY TO BUILD IT TO THIS DATE, BUT THE PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT WAS FOR TWO AS IT IS CURRENTLY NOW.
18:43:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
FROM THE CITY -- FROM THE CITY'S
PERSPECTIVE, IF THEY CAME IN WITH BUILDING PLANS FOR
TWO HOMES, THEY GOT THE ZONING TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
18:43:15 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
THAT'S CORRECT, UNDER THAT PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT.
18:43:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
REBUTTAL WITH APPLICANT NOW.
18:43:21 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
I HAVE SOMEONE HERE -- THE LAST --
18:43:22 >> I'M HERE.
I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THEY WOULDN'T STAND BEHIND ME
LIKE THAT.
18:43:28 >> SHE HAS ALREADY SPOKEN ALREADY.
18:43:29 >> I HAVE TO CLEAR UP.
IF YOU ASKED ME ABOUT THE NOTICE, I COULD HAVE CLEARED
IT UP.
NO ONE HERE TONIGHT --
18:43:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MA'AM, YOU CANNOT DO THAT NOW.
I AM SORRY.
I AM SORRY.
18:43:41 >> NO ONE HERE TONIGHT IS DISPUTING --
18:43:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MA'AM, I CAN'T HEAR YOUR TESTIMONY.
I AM SORRY.
NOW WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE APPLICANT.
18:43:49 >> WE ARE ONLY TALKING OF THE NOTICE ISSUE AND THE
DECEITFULNESS --
18:43:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. SHELBY.
18:43:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
HOLD ON, MA'AM.
HOLD ON.
HOLD ON.
WE ARE ASKING OUR ATTORNEY HIS OPINION.
CAN WE WAIVE OUR RULES, MR. SHELBY?
18:44:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU CAN WAIVE YOUR RULES, COUNCIL.
YOU CERTAINLY CAN.
BUT THE QUESTION IS -- THE QUESTION IS, IS IT
APPROPRIATE NOW AT THIS POINT TO ADDRESS A NOTICE
ISSUE?
18:44:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MA'AM, MA'AM, MA'AM -- MA'AM, PLEASE,
I NEED TO GET AN OPINION FROM OUR LEGAL STAFF, THANK
YOU.
18:44:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DON'T KNOW HER PURPOSE IN COUPLING
BACK.
NORMALLY, COUNCIL IF YOU WANT TO -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT
THAT WILL DO FOR THE RECORD AND FRANKLY AT THIS POINT
IN TIME WE ARE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS AND I DON'T QUITE
KNOW WHAT HER TESTIMONY THAT SHE IS GOING TO PROFFER
AND I SEE MR. MIRANDA BEING RECOGNIZED.
18:44:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
A CLEAR RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS
AND I AM NOT AGAINST ANYONE SPEAKING BUT I WOULD LIKE
TO HAVE A CLEAR RECORD SO NO ONE CAN SAY THAT COUNCIL
ERRORED IN MAKING THE DECISION.
18:44:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WHICH WAY WOULD YOU BE LEANING.
MIRANDA MIR I AM NOT LEANING ANY WAY.
THIS YOUNG LADY SPOKE AND WE HEARD HER, AND THE
CHAIRMAN GAVE HER AN EXTRA 30 SECONDS AND A MINUTE AND
I APPRECIATE THAT AND NOT THAT I AM FOR OR AGAINST YOU
SPEAKING BUT I NEED A CLEAR RECORD IN CASE THIS GOES TO
THE COURT OF LAW.
I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO HAMPER ANYTHING.
18:45:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
A FULL SIX MINUTES EVEN THOUGH --
BECAUSE SHE LIVED LESS THAN 250 -- I GAVE HER EXTRA
TIME.
18:45:19 >> RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
18:45:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I GAVE YOU SIX MINUTES.
RULES AND PROCEDURES.
I CANNOT LET YOU SPEAK.
MOVE ON.
THANK YOU FOR THIS EVENING AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE
APPLICANT FOR REBUTTAL.
18:45:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AGAIN, COUNCIL.
PLEASE MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS OF STAFF
BEFORE THE REBUTTAL, IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.
UNLESS IT COMES UP AS A RESULT.
THANK YOU.
18:45:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I HAVE A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT.
BEFORE YOU GO INTO YOUR REBUTTAL.
IS -- IS -- ARE YOU FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH THE
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ALONG THE RIVER THERE, SIR?
18:45:57 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
18:45:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
OKAY.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF EITHER OF THESE GENTLEMEN -- WHAT
THEIR ROLE IS AND IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK, BUT IS --
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TESTIMONY THAT THERE IS NO
PRECEDENT FOR FOUR HOMES.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID THE ONLY PRECEDENT IS FOR ONE
HOME OR TWO HOMES.
AND THAT THERE IS NO PRECEDENT FOR FOUR HOMES.
SO I GUESS I AM CONFUSED IN REGARD TO THE FACT THAT --
YOU ALREADY HAVE -- WHOEVER OWNS THIS PROPERTY ALREADY
HAS A PD ON THERE FOR TWO HOMES.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NECESSITY IS AND THE NEED IS TO
BUILD FOUR, WHICH DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE ANY PRECEDENT
WHATSOEVER.
18:46:49 >> AGAIN, JD ALSABBAGH.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECTOR, THIS LOT IS THE LONGEST
LOT.
THREE LOTS ON THE WEST OF US AND TWO LOTS ON THE EAST
OF US.
SO NOW ONE THING I WANT TO BRING ALSO, THERE IS ROAD ON
THE EAST SIDE OF US WHERE WE BORDER OUR PROPOSED HOME
AND ROAD ALSO ON THE -- ON THE WEST SIDE OF WHERE WE
PROPOSE THE HOME.
SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE THE PICTURE FOR IT IN A
SECOND.
SO NOW THE -- THERE IS NO GRAND TREE AS YOU SEE.
NO --
18:47:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
DID YOU WANT TOP ANSWER MY QUESTION
WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT IS THE NECESSITY?
WHAT IS THE NEED FROM GOING FROM THE EXISTING PD TO
THIS PROPOSED PD, WHICH DOUBLES THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND
NO PRECEDENT FOR IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:47:43 >> RESPECTED -- I WILL LET THE OWNERS SPEAK ON THAT.
18:47:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU.
18:47:49 >> MY NAME IS JEFF SHURELETT.
18:47:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. SHELBY IS RECOGNIZED.
18:47:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT BOTH
GENTLEMEN WERE SWORN IN WHO ARE PREPARED TO SPEAK.
CAN YOU TELL US IF YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN.
18:48:06 >> JEFF SHIRTLET.
18:48:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
TAKE IT BACK TO THE PICTURE OF THE
GENTLEMEN.
18:48:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DOWNSTAIRS ON MONITOR.
18:48:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
GO AHEAD.
18:48:15 >> MR. DINGFELDER, LONG TIME NO SEE.
I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN A WHILE.
I HEARD JUST LIKE YOU DID A LOT OF NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE
BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS AND THEY ARE UPSET THAT SOMEONE
NEW IS COMING IN TO DEVELOP THE LAND.
I AM USING THIS LAND PERSONALLY TO BUILD MYSELF A
HOUSE, MY MOTHER A HOUSE AND MY SISTER A HOUSE.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.
THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE A PROPERTY, LOVE
AND USE THE PROPERTY FOR 30 YEARS.
SINCE THAT TIME, THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THE CITY HAS
COME UP WITH A HIGHER DENSITY COMP PLAN WHERE YOU ARE
ALLOWED TEN PER ACRE.
WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
WE FELL IN LOVE WITH IT.
WE ARE GOING -- THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WATER RUNOFF
HERE.
OKAY.
WE ARE PUTTING IN -- WE HAVE A SITE PLAN RIGHT HERE.
WE HAVE A -- A -- AN UNDERGROUND SYSTEM TO HELP AND
ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS.
THIS WILL BE A BIG INVESTMENT FOR ME AND MY FAMILY.
WE WILL LIVE THERE FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS OR HOWEVER
LONGER WITH ON THIS PLANET.
AS FAR AS THE TREES, NONE OF THEM ARE GRANDFATHERS.
48 TREES.
ALL SMALLER TREES COMING DOWN.
THE INVESTMENT WE ARE GOING TO PUT IN HERE WILL RAISE
EVERYBODY VALUATIONS FOR THEIR OWN PROPERTIES.
RAISE TAX FOR THE CITY.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO APPROVE THIS
PROPERTY.
THIS IS SOMETHING WITHIN THE PLAN AND WITHIN -- THE
REASON NONE OF THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE, YOU HEARD IT.
THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS.
ONE WOMAN OWNED IT FOR SEVEN YEARS.
THE WOMAN WHO WAS MOST VOCAL JUST HERE AND TRIED TO
HAVE A SECOND GO AT IT, SHE HAS HER PARCEL SUBDIVIDED
INTO THREE LOTS.
I AM ASKING FOR FOUR.
IS IT THAT MUCH MORE FOUR TO THREE.
I DON'T THINK SO.
TWO OF THE -- TWO OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY
NEIGHBORS ON EACH SIDE.
THEY PROBABLY HAVE BEEN USING MY PROPERTY TO WALK THEIR
DOGS FOR 30 YEARS AND NOW THEY ARE UPSET THAT SOMEBODY
WILL COME IN AND BUILD SOME HOUSES.
MY MOTHER AND MY SISTER AND ME WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF
YOU CAN APPROVE US FOR WHAT WE -- WHAT WE SEE IS OUR --
WE HAVE BEEN WAITING OUR WHOLE LIVES TO HAVE A PIECE OF
PROPERTY.
THAT IS THE REASON, MR. DINGFELDER.
18:50:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION.
18:50:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN.
18:50:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
RECOGNIZED, SIR.
18:50:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY ATTORNEY.
WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IF MISS WELLS WANT TO ADD
ANYTHING CERTAINLY, BUT JUST A REMINDER, WITHIN YOUR
STAFF REPORT IS THE CRITERIA UPON WHICH YOU MUST BASE
YOUR DECISIONS, NOT WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY, HOW LONG
THEY ARE GOING TO OWN THE PROPERTY, WHAT THE REASON IS.
IT IS -- IT IS ACTUALLY THE CRITERIA.
AND I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO LISTEN TO THE FACTS OR
REFER TO FACTS AS YOU HEARD THEM AND APPLY THEM
SPECIFICALLY TO THE CRY CRITERIA ON THE STAFF REPORT
UPON WHICH YOU MUST BASE YOUR DECISION ON COMPETENT,
SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCES.
THANK YOU.
18:51:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
YOU CAN CONTINUE.
18:51:07 >> JD ALSABBAGH, ENGINEER.
WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY WAIVER FOR THE TREES.
WE ARE PERVIOUS PAVEMENT ACROSS THE PROPERTY.
PERVIOUS PAVEMENT FOR NATURAL RESOURCES.
AS YOU SEE ALL THE EXISTING TREES, WE PRESERVE IT.
WE ALSO PROPOSE FOUNDATION ACROSS -- YOU SEE WE HAVE IT
IN THE NODE.
ADJACENT TO ANY TREES.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE WILL APPLY.
WE ARE PROPOSING UNDERGROUND SYSTEM AS JEFF INDICATED
UNDERGROUND STORAGE WHICH IS IN THE SECOND SHEET TO
ALLEVIATE.
AND JUST -- I WANT TO BRING SOMETHING -- AS YOU SEE
HERE, THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO WEST AND ITS ROAD
ADJACENT TO OUR PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO EAST AND THE ENTRANCE.
AND ALSO ROAD CONTINUES.
SO THE ROAD FROM BOTH SIDE BORDER OUR PROPERTY.
THE HOUSE SIDE OR TO THE DRIVEWAY.
SO OVERALL, WE SUGGESTED WE ARE CREATING A DESIGN WHICH
GETS SUPPORT FROM NATURAL RESOURCE, BY THE STORMWATER,
BY EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THIS RECORD REGARD.
AND OF COURSE WE TAKE CARE OF THE URBAN DESIGN AND
REALLY CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE DESIGNS REQUESTED AND
WITHIN THE DENSITY ALLOWED WHICH IS FOUR PER ACRE AND
ALLOWED TEN PER ACRE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:53:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
18:53:12 >> IF I CAN MAKE A LAST STATEMENT ON THE DUE PROCESS.
YOU KNOW THEY ARE SAYING THEY DIDN'T GET NOTICED AND
SOMEBODY -- HE SAW SOMEBODY TAKE A SIGN BUT HE DIDN'T
TAKE A PICTURE.
I WANT TO SAYS THERE OBVIOUSLY SOME ULTERIOR MOTIVES.
THESE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THE PROPERTY DEVELOPED.
THE SIGNS WERE POSTED.
WE DID EVERYTHING BY THE BOOKS.
WE ARE HERE IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY.
I THINK MORE OF A CASE THAT SOMEBODY WENT AND PULLED
THE SIGN DOWN.
ONE PERSON SAID IF YOU -- IF YOU APPROVE THIS, HE IS
GOING TO MOVE.
WHAT IS EASIER MOVING OR JUST GOING AND TAKING A SIGN
UP AND WALKING AWAY WITH IT.
THESE -- I HEARD FROM THE STAFF -- FROM BOTH STAFF
MEMBERS THINK THAT MET, AND THEY SAID THE NEIGHBORHOOD
HAS BEEN CALLING WEEKLY FOR THE LAST FOUR MONTHS.
THESE PEOPLE WERE WELL AWARE -- THEY ARE DECEIVING.YOU.
THEY ARE SAYING -- WHAT AM I DECEIVING.
I BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND I AM GOING TO BE THEIR
NEIGHBOR SOON.
HOPEFULLY.
NOBODY TOOK UP A SIGN AND THAT IS BS.
THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
18:54:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:54:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES, SIR.
THE ONE THING BAD ABOUT THIS PROCESS, OKAY.
AND I NEVER LIKED IT FOR THE 11 YEARS I SERVED THIS
CITY.
AND IN ADDITION TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD, BUT ONE
THING I DON'T LIKE IS OFTEN IT IS YES, SIR OR NO.
AND BLACK OR WHITE.
AND SOME PEOPLE WALK AWAY HAPPY.
AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T.
WHAT I THINK I AM HEARING TONIGHT IS A LACK OF
COMMUNICATION AND I AM NOT POINTING ANY FINGERS IN
EITHER DIRECTION, BUT A LACK OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN
YOU THREE AND THOSE OTHER TEN PEOPLE WHO WE HEARD FROM
EARLIER.
SO WHAT COUNCIL LIKES TO DO SOMETIMES TO FACILITATE
BETTER COMMUNICATION AND MAYBE SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE
IS TO ENCOURAGE AN APPLICANT TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE
AND GO MEET WITH THOSE FOLKS.
BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE HAS BEEN A WHOLE
LOT OF MEETING GOING ON.
AND FRANKLY, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, BUT YOU ARE
FREE TO DO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DO.
AND IF YOU WANT A VOTE TONIGHT, THAT -- IT IS YOUR
LEGAL RIGHT TO HAVE ONE.
18:55:31 >> I WOULD LIKE -- I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT.
I ACTUALLY HAVE TRIED TO SPEAK TO THE NEIGHBORS.
THEY ARE UNRESPONSIVE.
THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM ME.
THE ONE NEIGHBOR THAT CAME UP AND SAID SPECIFICALLY HE
HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANYBODY OR HE SPOKE TO -- HERE IS MY
GENERAL CONTRACT FROM SABLE THAT HE LIED TO HIM AND
UNFORTUNATE.
I WASN'T THERE.
BUT IF YOU CAN SEE., THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR JUST TO THE
EAST OF ME.
THERE IS NO -- NOTHING HERE WORTH DYING FOR.
BEWARE OF DOG.
THIS GUY -- HE HAS CAMERAS SET UP HERE.
YOU CAN'T EVEN APPROACH THIS GUY.
HE DOESN'T RETURN PHONE CALLS.
THEY DON'T WANT THE PROPERTY DEVELOPED.
THEY WANT THE PROPERTY TO STAY EXACTLY HOW IT HAS BEEN
FOR 30 YEARS LIKE THEY HAVE ALL LIVED THERE.
AND WHAT THEY DON'T REALIZE IS, TAMPA IS GROWING AND
UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS -- YOU THE REASON THIS PROPERTY --
THESE PROPERTIES HAVEN'T BEEN DEVELOPED MORE BECAUSE
THESE LANDOWNERS HAVE BEEN THERE 30 YEARS.
HAD THERE BEEN SELLING -- THE COMP PLAN IS TEN PER
ACRE.
I AM ASKING FOUR PER ACRE.
18:56:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
ALL RIGHT.
I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.
18:56:32 >> I UNDERSTAND, MR. DINGFELDER.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OTHER CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
I REALIZE YOU ARE AGAINST IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE.
YOU MIGHT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MAYBE -- I DON'T KNOW.
18:56:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I LIVE 20 BLOCKS AWAY.
15 BLOCKS AWAY.
THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE.
I JUST TRY TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
AND LIKE I SAY, I AM -- I AM A TRAINED MEDIATOR AND I
LIKE TO TRY TO FIND COMPROMISE.
18:56:58 >> IMAGINE THE WORLD WHERE EVERY SINGLE HOMEOWNER CAN
RAISE AND COMPLAIN AND TAMPA -- THIS PLAT WAS DONE BACK
100 YEARS AGO WHEN ALL THESE PROPERTIES -- YOU KNOW
WHEN THIS WHOLE ROAD, IT WAS 1906.
A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN IN TAMPA.
A LOT HAPPENED IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS MUCH LESS 15
YEARS THE LAST TIME WE WENT TO CITY COUNCIL AND THIS
GOT APPROVED IN 2006.
IF THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, I WOULD RATHER JUST
KNOW NOW, YOU KNOW.
BUT THIS IS -- MY FAMILY LOVES THE SITE.
WE LOVE THE OWLS.
WE ARE NOT TAKING DOWN ANY GRANDFATHER TREES.
WE ARE GOING TO HELP WITH THE WATER PROBLEM.
WE ARE GOING TO IMPROVE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AND
THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
18:57:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
ARE WE FINISHED, SIR.
18:57:41 >> I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
18:57:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
PRETTY MUCH SAID WHAT YOU WANTED.
SO AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT, I MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:57:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION.
18:57:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
18:57:53 >>LUIS VIERA:
MR. CHAIR MAY I --
18:57:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:57:57 >>LUIS VIERA:
BEFORE WE MOVE TO CLOSE JUST FOR THE
APPLICANT.
I WANT TO -- I WANT TO RE-EMPHASIZE WHAT COUNCILMAN
DINGFELDER SAID NOT TO PUSH A CONTINUANCE, BUT JUST TO
LET YOU KNOW THAT ONCE WE CLOSE, YOUR ABILITY TO WHY A
CONTINUANCE IS -- IS PRETTY MUCH GONE.
SO JUST TO MAKE THAT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD.
THAT'S ALL.
THANK YOU.
18:58:18 >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONTINUANCE IS GOING TO
DO FOR US.
I DON'T THINK I AM GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO AND KNOCK ON
MY NEIGHBORS' DOORS AND SAY HEY, I AM JEFF AND I WANT
TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY -- I DON'T THINK I AM GOING TO
WIN THEM OVER.
IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ASKING ME TO DO CONTINUE TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION WITH THEM IN HOPES THAT BASICALLY I CAN --
THEY CHANGE THEIR MIND.
I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN PRETTY CLEAR THEY DON'T WANT THE
PROPERTY DEVELOPED.
18:58:40 >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
THANK YOU, SIR.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
18:58:47 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER.
18:58:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I HEARD THE APPLICANT SAY THEY DIDN'T
WANT TO DEVELOP -- I DIDN'T HEAR THAT FROM THE
TESTIMONY ON THE OTHER SIDE.
I THINK THEY SAID THE MASS SIZE OF WHAT WAS BEING
DEVELOPED.
I DIDN'T HEAR THEM SAY THEY DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING
DEVELOP ON PROPERTY.
I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR THAT
DURING THE TESTIMONY.
18:59:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
18:59:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
18:59:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
18:59:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL BECAUSE MR. VIERA IS ON THE SCREEN.
ROLL CALL.
18:59:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
18:59:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
NO.
18:59:26 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
18:59:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
18:59:29 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
18:59:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
18:59:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
18:59:37 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER VOTING NO.
18:59:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALREADY, MR. VIERA, ARE YOU PREPARED
TO TAKE ON ITEM NUMBER 2?
18:59:51 >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU KNOW WHAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL -- I
-- IF I READ IT, I HAVE TO COMMIT TO VOTE YES ON IT.
AND I AM NOT QUITE THERE YET.
LET ME -- LET ME PASS ON IT FOR NOW.
I AM NOT SAYING I AM VOTING NO.
I AM JUST NOT SUCH A BELIEVER TO MAKE THE MOTION AT
THIS TIME.
19:00:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE WILL GO IN REVERSE ORDER.
MR. MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE NUMBER 2.
19:00:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL TELL YOU WHAT,
I WILL BE COMMITTED TO VOTE YES, BUT I AM GOING TO READ
IT BECAUSE I THINK THIS HAS GOT TO COME TO A CLOSURE.
IF I MAKE A MOTION AND IT FAILS, SOMEBODY ELSE CAN MAKE
A MOTION TO REVERSE IT.
I THINK ON BOTH SIDES AND THE SANITY OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND SANITY OF THE APPLICANT AND DIDN'T
START YESTERDAY, BUT SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER,
DECEMBER, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.
9,000 KIDS WERE BORN SINCE THEN IN.
SO, I MEAN, IT HAS GOT TO COME TO A CLOSURE FOR BOTH
SIDES.
19:00:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
CAN I THROW OUT A POINT OF ORDER
MR. CHAIRMAN AND MR. MIRANDA, I APOLOGIZE FOR
INTERRUPTING.
19:00:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO PROBLEM.
19:00:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS WEIRD THAT
WE ASK SOMEBODY TO READ THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THAT
CREATES A PRESUMPTION THAT ANY ONE OF US IS IN FAVOR OF
IT.
I THINK BETTER SUGGESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I HAVE
BEEN MEANING TO SAY THIS FOR A LONG TIME IS JUST TO
SAY, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
AND THIS WOULD BE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR A MOTION TO
DENY.
SO I KNOW IT IS SEMANTICS.
19:01:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I KNOW IT IS SEMANTICS BUT THE
RULES --
19:01:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
IT IS NOT A RULE BUT A PROCESS THAT
EVOLVED OVER THE YEARS THAT FRANKLY I THINK IS A LITTLE
WARPED.
NOT YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
19:01:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
A LOT OF THINGS ARE WARPED.
19:01:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MANY CHAIRMANS HAVE DONE IT, BUT
THE MOST -- MATTER IS CLOSED.
WE HEARD ALL THE EVIDENCE.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
AND THAT MOTION COULD BE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
ANYWAY, THAT IS MY TWO CENTS.
CARRY ON.
19:01:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I SAID I WOULD READ IT AND CLARIFY
AND END THIS DISCUSSION, WHETHER IT GOES OR NOT.
IT IS UP TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS.
FILE NUMBER 2, REZ 21-90.
A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING AND K
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 810 WEST
HENRY AVENUE AND 810 WEST HENRY AVENUE ONE-HALF IN
ZONING DISTRICT PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO SH-PD,
SEMINOLE HEIGHTS DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACHED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
19:02:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.
19:02:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ROLL CALL.
19:02:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITH REGARD TO A MOTION THAT YOU HAVE
IN THERE.
YOU DO HAVE SAMPLE MOTIONS IF YOU WISH TO.
BECAUSE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE RECORD COMPLETE, YOU DO
HAVE TO STATE THE BASIS FOR THE -- THE MOTION EITHER TO
APPROVE OR DENY.
AND IF ANYBODY NEEDS ANY ASSISTANCE WITH REGARD TO
THAT, I BELIEVE I WILL --
19:03:07 >> CAN'T HEAR YOU, MR. SHELBY.
19:03:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WILL DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE
SAMPLE MOTIONS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED PERHAPS ON
THE -- NEXT TO THE LAST PAGE.
I THINK IT WILL BE SUFFICIENT.
19:03:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WAS PREPARED TO DO THAT, SIR.
19:03:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SORRY, MR. MIRANDA.
19:03:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
JUST TO MAKE SURE IT IS A COMPLETE
RECORD AS I SAID EARLIER ON BOTH SIDES.
ITEM 2, REZ-21-90.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GOALS, OBJECTIVES
OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSISTENT 5.1.1 AND HOUSING
POLICIES 1.3.1.3.3 AND 1.3.4 CONSISTENT TO ENSURE THAT
THERE IS ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING TO MEET THE NEEDS
OF TAMPA FUTURE POPULATION OF THE DENSITY PROPOSED OF
THE DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT EXCEED WHAT IS APPLICABLE OF
THE FUTURE LAND USE AND 9.1 CONSISTENT REGARDING
SECTIONS 27-136 AND SECTIONS REQUIRED 27-211, THE
PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE PLAN TO ENCOURAGE
DEVELOPMENT IN THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION, AND CHARACTER
OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND SUBSTANTIAL LAND
USE AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
NOW WE CAN VOTE.
19:04:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MADAM CLERK.
19:04:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
19:04:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
NO.
19:04:39 >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
19:04:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
19:04:43 >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
19:04:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
19:04:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NO.
19:04:50 >>CLERK:
MOTION FAILED WITH DINGFELDER, CARLSON,
MANISCALCO, VIERA AND GUDES VOTING NO.
19:05:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
19:05:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. CHAIRMAN.
19:05:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
19:05:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MOVE TO DENY REZ-21-90 FOR THE
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 810 AND 810 1/2 WEST HENRY AVENUE
DUE TO THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE A BURDEN OF PROVE OF
COMPREHENSIVE AT THE AND SUBSTANTIAL THAT THE
DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
AND CITY CODE.
AND THE APPLICANT'S FAILURE TO MEET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF
WITH RESPECT TO REQUESTED WAIVERS.
SINCE THERE WERE WAIVERS, I WOULD SAY THAT THERE IS A
FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH SECTION 27-1394.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE NEED OR DESIRE FOR WAIVERS NECESSARILY
PROPOSE THAT THE INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT IS NOT
APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE AND IS NOT COMPLY WITH THE
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS WE SAW IN AT LEAST ONE
INCONSISTENCY FROM ONE PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANT DID NOT PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE THAT THE
PROPOSED DESIGN IS EWE MAKE ANY IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY THE
WAIVER.
THEREFORE, THAT IS MY MOTION FOR DENIAL.
19:06:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. MANISCALCO, IF I CAN.
DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY REFERENCE TO, LET'S SAY
SECTION 27-136 OR -- WITH REGARD TO THE --
19:06:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ACTUALLY YES, I WOULD.
SECTION -- FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
SECTION 27-136, SPECIFICALLY PROPOSED USE DOES NOT
PROMOTE THE EFFICIENT AND SUSTAINABLE USE OF LAND AND
INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND I WILL LEAVE IT THERE.
THANK YOU.
AND I HAVE ALREADY READ THE BOTTOM -- SORRY WITH THE
WAIVERS.
FINALLY --
19:06:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU WANT TO MAKE REFERENCE TO ANY
OTHER TESTIMONY?
19:07:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FINALLY THE SITE TO THE RECORD AND
COMPREHENSIVE TENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT
DEMONSTRATES THAT MAINTAINING THE EXISTING ZONING
CLASSIFICATION OF PD WHICH ALLOWS FOR TWO RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS ACCOMPLISHES A LEGITIMATE
PURPOSE AND DEVELOPMENT BY RIGHT CONSISTENT WITH THE
PATTERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE HEARD THROUGH
PUBLIC SYSTEM, SPECIFIC PROPERTIES IN THE VICINITY THAT
HAVE -- THAT MATCH WITH THE DESCRIPTION I HAVE JUST
MENTIONED.
THAT'S IT.
19:07:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CARLSON SECONDED THAT.
ROLL CALL.
19:07:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.
19:07:36 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
19:07:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
19:07:41 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
19:07:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NO.
19:07:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
19:07:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
19:07:49 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO VOTING NO.
19:07:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
WE WILL HAVE A RECESS UNTIL 7:15.
19:22:41 >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
19:22:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.
19:22:47 >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
GUDES ALL RIGHT.
19:22:51 >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
19:22:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
STAFF, WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 3.
19:23:01 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL, ANNIE BARNES.
ITEM NUMBER 2.
THE REQUEST IS SPECIAL USE 2 FOR BANK, DRIVE-IN, AND I WILL
TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
AND AFTER THEIRS, I WILL CONCLUDE MINE
19:23:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WHAT HAPPENED?
HOIST, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
19:24:02 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
I WONDER IF PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF CAN HEAR US.
THEY MAY NOT REALIZE THAT THEY ARE NEXT UP.
19:24:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MISS BARNES, ARE YOU THERE?
19:24:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MISS MALONE.
19:24:13 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
IT IS PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF WE
ARE WAITING FOR.
19:24:18 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
I BELIEVE THAT JENNIFER MALONE WILL BE ON THE LINE
MOMENTARILY.
19:24:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
19:24:27 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING
COMMISSION STAFF.
I APOLOGIZE.
I'M HERE TO PRESENT ON SU-2-21-07.
19:24:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DID SHE COME OFF THE SCREEN, VIDEO?
19:24:43 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
I AM BACK.
CAN YOU SEE ME.
19:24:51 >> SO THIS IS SU 2-21-07 IN THE CENTRAL PLANNING
DISTRICT WITHIN THE SOUTH HOWARD NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT IS WITH TRANSIT.
CLEVELAND STREET AND SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE.
THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS HYDE PARK A
HALF MILE TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE SITE AND WITHIN
EVACUATION ZONE C.
AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE LOCATED ON SOUTH SIDE OF
WEST CLEVELAND STREET.
TO THE NORTH IS EXTRA SPACE STORAGE.
TO THE SOUTH ON THE OTHER YELLOW STAR IS THE PUBLIX.
THEN AREA.
THE ADOPTED FUTURE USE IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 THAT
ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF COMMERCIAL USES.
OTHER LAND USES IN THE AREA ARE RESIDENTIAL-35 JUST TO
THE WEST OF THE SITE, THE DARK BROWN COLOR AND
RESIDENTIAL-20, FURTHER EAST OF THE SITE, THE LIGHTER
BROWN COLOR.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A BANK -- A BANK WITH A
DRIVE-THRU.
SO WE DID FIND THAT THEY WERE MEETING THE POLICIES
WITHIN THE PLAN.
THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN IS SUPPORTING THOSE BY ORIENTING
THE BUILDING TO THE FRONT -- TOWARD SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE
AND PLACING PARKING THE REAR.
WE ALSO MAN FOUND THERE WERE GOOD CONNECTIONS BETWEEN
THE BUILDING AND THE SIDEWALKS ADJACENT TO THE PUBLIC
RIGHT-OF-WAY AS WELL.
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MENTION THAT THE COMMUNITY
MIXED USE 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION ANTICIPATE
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THESE CORRIDORS.
SO THIS REQUEST AND THE USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE APPLICANT WAS ALSO MEETING
THOSE MIXED USE CORRIDOR POLICIES THAT THE PLAN SEEKS
TO ACHIEVE WITH WALKABILITY THROUGH.
SO I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO ANNIE.
THANK YOU.
19:26:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
ALL RIGHT.
BEING NONE.
MISS BARNES.
19:26:45 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
CAN I PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN?
GREAT.
AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE 2 FOR
A BANK DRIVE-IN LOCATED 201, 203 AND 205 SOUTH HOWARD
AVENUE.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY WAIVERS, AND THE
CURRENT ZONING IS CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
SHOWN HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE AS WELL
AS SURROUNDING ZONING.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS ABOUT .46 ACRES IN SIZE.
AND IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
PROPERTY NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS DEVELOPED LIGHT
INDUSTRIAL USE AND ZONED PD.
PROPERTIES TO THE WEST ARE DEVELOPED COMMERCIAL OFFICE
USES AND RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY USES.
AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE IS ZONED PD AND THE
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY IS WITHIN THE RM-24 ZONING
DISTRICT.
TO THE SOUTH COMMERCIAL OFFICE USES AND PROPERTY TO THE
EAST IS DEVELOPED WITH RETAIL SERVICES.
SHOWN HERE IS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE DEVELOPMENT WILL INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY
2960-STARE-FOOT BUILDING AND TWO DRIVE-THRU LANES.
THE ENTRANCE TO THE SITE IS OFF OF WEST CLEVELAND
STREET TO THE NORTH.
THE EXIT TO THE SITES ARE LOCATED ON THE ALLEY TO THE
WEST AND SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE TO THE EAST.
THE PROPOSED REQUEST REQUIRE 12 PARKING SPACES AND A
TOTAL OF 16 ARE BEING PROVIDED.
SHOWN HERE, THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE
APPLICANT.
HERE IS THE PROPERTY FACING SOUTH FROM WEST CLEVELAND
STREET FROM THE LEFT.
AND FACING NORTHWEST ON HOWARD AVENUE SHOWN ON THE
RIGHT.
PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND NORTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT
SITE.
AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY LOCATED EAST OF THE SUBJECT
SITE.
SURROUNDING PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND WEST.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
THE PETITION AND FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE
APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
COUNCIL GRANT THE REQUESTED PETITION.
FURTHER MODIFICATIONS OF THE SITE PLAN MUST BE
COMPLETED WITHIN FIRST AND SECOND READING OF THE
ORDINANCE AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR
ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
19:29:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CITRO.
19:29:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS BARNES, CAN WE HAVE
TRANSPORTATION HERE.
19:29:46 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
SO SORRY, I DID NOT HEAR YOU.
19:29:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I APOLOGIZE.
DO WE NOT HAVE TRANSPORTATION WITH US TONIGHT.
THANK YOU.
JONATHAN, THERE WAS NO CONCERN WITH THIS LOT ONLY
HAVING TWO STREETS AVAILABLE FOR IT AND BOTH OF THEM
ARE ONE WAYS PERPENDICULAR TO ONE ANOTHER?
19:30:11 >> JONATHAN SCOTT:
JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION.
THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, MR. CITRO.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A CONCERN.
THEY DESIGNED THE SITE WITH ALL THAT IN MIND AND THE
CIRCULATION OF THE SITE ALLOWS FOR THE -- TO MAKE USE
OF THE ONE-WAY STREETS.
19:30:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, JONATHAN.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
19:30:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS BARNES.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
19:30:37 >> YES, WE DO.
19:30:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
19:30:45 >> I AM JONATHAN MOORE, 1304 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
I AM THE AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR THE PROPERTY DALLAS EVANS
FROM EVANS CIVIL ENGINEER AND ONLINE SHOULD WE NEED
THEM BRIAN SHEPHERD FROM 1771 ARCHITECTS TO TALK OF
PROJECT.
THE PROPERTY AT 201, 202, 203 SOUTH HOWARD AT THE
CORNER OF HOWARD AND CLEVELAND IS CG.
A BANK IS AN ALLOW BE USE FOR CG.
ADDING A DRIVE-THRU TO MAKE SURE TRAFFIC FLOWS AND
INGRESS AND EGRESS IS DESIGNED PROPERLY AND I BELIEVE
WE HAVE DONE THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO READ SECTION 27-132 REGULATIONS
GOVERNING INDIVIDUAL SPECIAL USES DRIVE-IN WINDOWS.
THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC STANDARDS SHALL BE USED IN
DECIDING APPLICATIONS FOR APPROVALS OF THIS USE.
THE SITE SHALL HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO AN ARTERIAL OR
COLLECTOR STREET AS SHOWN ON THE MAJOR STREET MAP.
THE COMMENT WAS THE ENTRANCE TO THE SITE COMES FROM
WEST CLEVELAND TO THE NORTH.
THE EXITS TO THE SITE ARE ON AN ALLEY TO THE WEST AND
SOUTH HOWARD TO THE EAST.
AND ADEQUATE SPACE WITHIN THE LOT TO QUEUE PRIOR TO
USING THE DRIVE-IN WINDOW.
COMMENT FROM STAFF THIS STANDARD HAS BEEN MET.
BOTH CUES LANES AND THE DRIVE-IN WINDOW SHOULD BE AT
LEAST 50 FEET FROM ANY PROPERTY OF WHICH A RESIDENTIAL
USE IS LOCATED.
THIS STANDARD HAS BEEN MET.
YOU WILL SEE IN THE REPORT THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH
ALL OF THE STAFF COMMENTS WITHIN THREE CONDITIONS.
WE UNDERSTAND THE CONDITIONS FILED BY NATURAL
RESOURCES, WASTEWATER, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE FOR NOTES TO
BE ADDED TO OUR DRAWINGS.
AND STAFF COMMENTS AND RESPONSES ARE LIST NO WAIVERS
WHICH WE ARE PREPARED TO DO.
THE PLANS NEED TO BE IN BLACK AND WHITE WHICH WE ARE
PREPARED TO DO.
THE TITLE BAR, ADD THE ADDRESS AND FOLIO NUMBER, OF
COURSE, AND REMOVE THE LABEL AND THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER
WHICH WE ARE PREPARED TO DO.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND MYSELF AND MY CIVIL
ENGINEER, DALLAS, ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT
YOU MIGHT HAVE.
19:33:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
19:33:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IF I MAY AGAIN.
19:33:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU RECOGNIZED.
19:33:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT ALL YOUR
PRECAUTIONS HAVE BEEN TAKEN.
IS -- ARE BOTH OF THESE DRIVE-IN WINDOWS OR IS ONE OF
THEM A TUBE DISPENSARY?
YOU HAVE TWO LANES THERE.
19:33:29 >> ONE OF THEM WILL BE A TUBE, THAT'S CORRECT.
19:33:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I HOPE YOU SEE MY CONCERN.
MOST PEOPLE -- IF THEY ARE LIKE ME, THEY MAKE THEIR
DEPOSITS EITHER ON THE WAY TO WORK OR COMING HOME FROM
WORK WHICH IS, OF COURSE, RUSH HOUR.
I JUST FIND IF STRAIN AGE THAT YOU HAVE TWO ONE-WAY
STREETS THAT I AM SURE DURING THOSE TIMES ARE VERY,
VERY CROWDED.
AGAIN I THANK YOU FOR DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, BUT I
RECEIVE PHONE CALLS EVERY DAY OF THE OF THE TRAFFIC
PROBLEMS WE HAVE IN.
I HOPE YOU CAN APPRECIATE MY QUESTIONS.
19:34:02 >> YES, SIR, WE DO.
19:34:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMEN?
ANYONE FROM THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
19:34:13 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
AILEEN ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
19:34:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS
ITEM?
19:34:25 >>CLERK:
WE HAVE BRIAN SHEPHERD AND HE IS NOT LOGGED
ON.
19:34:28 >> THAT IS OUR ARCHITECT.
19:34:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANISCALCO HAS MOVED TO CLOSE AND
SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
19:34:34 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
19:34:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
19:34:38 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
19:34:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
19:34:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
19:34:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
--
19:34:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
19:34:48 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT
AT VOTE.
ALL RIGHT, MR. CARLSON.
THANK YOU, SIR.
19:34:57 >>BILL CARLSON:
NUMBER 3?
19:34:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, SIR, NUMBER 3.
19:35:01 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
I MOVE FILE NO. REZ-SU 2-21-07, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION ORDINANCE
OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 APPROVING A BANK, DRIVE-IN
AND CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL
VICINITY OF 201, 203 AND 205 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE IN
TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 1 HEREOF PROVIDING OF AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
FINDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF
REPORTS, COMPLIANT WITH APPLICABLE LAND USE POLICIES AS
NOTED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CMU-35 LAND USE
DESIGNATION WHICH ALLOWS FOR SINGLE USE COMMERCIAL
RESIDENTIAL USES.
THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA 27-132.
SPECIAL USE ALLOWED FOR CONSIDERATION OF C G ZONING
DISTRICT AND THE SPECIAL USE WILL HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO
AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR STREET.
WILL ARE ADEQUATE SPACE FOR VEHICLES TO QUEUE.
19:36:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT INCLUDES -- I AM SORRY, MR.
CHAIRMAN.
INCLUDING THE REVISION SHEET FROM FIRST AND SECOND
READING.
MR. CARLSON.
19:36:16 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
19:36:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
19:36:20 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
19:36:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
19:36:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
19:36:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
19:36:29 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER ABSENT AT
VOTE.
SECOND HEARING APRIL 7, 2022 AT 9:0.
19:36:37 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEN.
19:36:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT, NUMBER 7.
19:36:46 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
NUMBER 7 FILE NO. REZ-21-89.
THE PROPERTY 5202 SOUTH PURITANS AVENUE FROM REZONE
RS-60 TO RS-50 AND TURN IT OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION
AND THEN AFTER THAT, I WILL DO MINE.
19:37:05 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE FROM THE PLANNING
COMMISSION.
ANNIE SAID 21-89.
IT IS IN SOUTH.
SPECIFICALLY IN THE BALLAST POINT NEIGHBORHOOD.
NO TRANSIT WITHIN PROXIMITY OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
I WILL NOTE THAT THE SITE IS WITHIN A LEVEL A
EVACUATION ZONE; HOWEVER, LESS THAN 50% OF THE SITE IS
LOCATED IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA SO JUST A VERY
SMALL PORTION.
THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION IS BALLAST POINT PARK
WHICH IS .7 MILES TO THE EAST OF THE SITE.
HERE IS AN AERIAL AT THE CORNER OF WEST BALLAST POINT
BOULEVARD AND SOUTH PURITANS AVENUE WITHIN SOUTH
MACDILL, WE HAVE THE ELMER'S SPORTS CAFE AND ALSO SOME
MULTIFAMILY TO THE NORTH AT SOUTH MACDILL AND CHRIST
AVENUE.
BUT TO THE EAST OF THE SITE IS PRETTY MUCH
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
THE FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL-10.
TO THE WEST OF THE SITE ALONG SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE IS
COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
THAT PINK COLOR THAT ALLOW THOSE COMMERCIAL USES.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT
WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE DENSITY IN THE
RESIDENTIAL-10 DOES ALLOW FOR THIS REZONING.
WE FOUND THAT THIS PORTION OF WEST BALLAST POINT
BOULEVARD AND SOUTH PURITANS AVENUE HAS A DENSITY OF
5.55 UNITS PER ACRE.
THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE ALLOWS FOR CONSIDERATION
OF TWO DWELLING UNITS AT 7.14 UNITS PER ACRE ON SUBJECT
SITE.
FURTHERMORE, THE REQUEST WILL ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT OF
SIMILAR FORM, HEIGHT AND SCALE OF RESIDENTIAL USES.
FOUND ALONG THIS PORTION OF SOUTH PURITANS AVENUE.
AND WE DID FIND AGAIN IT SUPPORTS MANY POLICIES OF THE
PLAN, SUCH AS PROVIDING ENOUGH HOUSING FOR TAMPA'S
GROWING POPULATION WHICH IS ONE OF OUR HOUSING
OBJECTIVES.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I WILL TURN IT BACK
OVER TO ANNIE.
THANK YOU.
19:39:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
OKAY, MISS BARNES?
19:39:15 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
MAY I PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.
GREAT.
AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE 5202 SOUTH
PURITANS AVENUE FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
TO RS-50 ALSO RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
NO WAIVERS ARE REQUIRED FOR REQUESTED FOR EUCLIDIAN
REZONING.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON LOTS 11-12, BLOCK 5 OF
TROPICAL TERRACE UNIT NUMBER 1.
SUBDIVISION PLATTED IN 1925 ALONG WITH THE NORTH HALF
OF THE CLOSING ALLEY.
SHOWN HERE IS THE SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY OF
APPROXIMATELY 12,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.
AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF THE
INTERSECTION -- SORRY.
SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF WEST BALLAST POINT
BOULEVARD AND SOUTH PURITANS AVENUE.
FROM HERE IS THE CONFORMING LOT MAP.
STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THAT 23% OF THE LOTS IN THE STUDY
AREA, 7% OF THE SUBJECT BLOCK.
10% OF THE BLOCK OF WEST BALLAST POINT BOULEVARD AND
12% OF THE BLOCK FACE WITH THE WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR
LESS.
SHOWN HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP WITH SURROUNDING ZONING.
PROPERTY LOCATED NORTH IS ZONED RS-75.
AND PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS ZONED RS-50.
SO PRIMARILY THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
SHOWN HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FACING EAST ALONG
PURITAN AVENUE.
SHOWN HERE SOUTH PURITAN AVENUE AND BALLAST POINT
FACING NORTH.
SHOWN HERE IS A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON THE
RIGHT SIDE THE SCREEN.
AGAIN, INTERSECTION OF SOUTH PURITAN AVENUE AND WEST OF
BALLAST POINT DRIVE ING EAST I HAVE A LONG THE WEST OF
BALANCE LAST POINT DRIVE.
SHOWN HERE ARE PROPERTY LOCATED ALONG BOTH SIDES OF
WEST BALLAST POINT DRIVE FACING EAST.
STAFF HAVE SHOWN 23% OF THE, 10% OF THE BLOCK OF WEST
BALLAST POINT BOULEVARD AND 12% OF THE BLOCK FACE ARE
WIDTHS OF 59.9 9 FEET OR LESS.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAVE REVIEWED
THE REQUEST AND FINDS IT INCONSISTENT WITH THE
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE OVERALL STUDY AREA SUBJECT
BLOCK, BLOCK AND BLOCK FACE.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
19:42:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS BARNES.
BEING NONE, WE WILL GO TO THE APPLICANT.
19:42:20 >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL, STEVE MICHELINI
REPRESENTING THE OWNER OF 5202 SOUTH PURITAN AVENUE.
FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE
ORIGINAL PLAT MAP THAT IS ON YOUR SCREEN.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE LOTS 1 AND 2 OUT OF BLOCK 2.
AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT ALL OF THE LOTS ARE ORIENTED
NORTH AND SOUTH.
IN THIS CASE AND WE CAN -- AND I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE
BETTER PICTURE OF THAT HERE AND WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING
THAT WE BE ALLOWED TO RE-ORIENT THE SITE FROM AN
EAST-WEST ORIENTATION TO A NORTH-SOUTH ORIENTATION.
IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
GREEN SPACE AND REAR YARDS FOR ALL OF THESE -- THESE
TWO PROPERTIES.
THIS IS THE.
THIS IS THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH REGARDING THE SITE.
AND THIS IS -- SORRY, THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT ALL OF THE EXISTING
DEVELOPMENTS ARE NORTH-SOUTH.
THERE ARE VERY FEW IF ANY THAT ARE ORIENTED EAST AND
WEST.
THIS IS THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF BALLAST POINT, AND
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DRIVEWAYS AND THE GARAGES AND THE
HOUSES ARE ALL ORIENTED OUT TOWARD BALLAST POINT.
WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS THAT WE ALLOW TO TURN THIS --
THIS PROPERTY SO THAT THE TWO LOTS FOR DEVELOPMENT
PURPOSES WOULD BE NORTH-SOUTH ORIENTED.
THIS IS A LITTLE MATTER OF DETAIL PHOTOGRAPH SHOWING
YOU THE GARAGES AND THE ORIENTATION OF THE HOMES.
THIS IS THE SAME PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS
IDENTIFIED WITH THE -- WITH THE RED DOT.
SO THE SHIFT IN ORIENTATION REQUIRES THAT WE REZONE
THIS TO RS-50, BECAUSE THE LOTS WERE ORIGINALLY
PLATTED AT 50 FEET WIDE.
ALTHOUGH WE COULD BUILD TWO HOUSES HERE ALREADY IF WE
KEPT THE ORIENTATION TOWARD PURITAN AVENUE AND THE
STAFF CAN CONFIRM THAT, WHICH I DID EARLIER JUST TO
MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF THAT.
THE DOMINANT ORIENTATION OF THE ENTIRE AREA IS
NORTH-SOUTH.
AND WE ARE REQUESTING THAT WE BE ALLOWED TO CHANGE THAT
ORIENTATION SO THAT IT WILL BE COMPATIBLE.
IT IS ADJACENT TO OTHER 50-FOOT LOTS THAT ARE DEVELOPED
IN THIS PATTERN.
IT IS SHOWN ON THE STAFF REPORT BY THE PLANNING
COMMISSION AND BY THE CITY, IT SHOWS YOU THE
ORIENTATION AND THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
SO ALTHOUGH THE AREA IS DEVELOPED IN LARGER LOTS, THERE
ARE ADJACENT CEASE TO THIS -- ADJACENCIES THAT ARE IN
SAME DIRECTIONS.
WE ARE ONE BLOCK FROM MACDILL WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL
STRIP AND A COMMERCIAL ORIENTATION AND A FEW BLOCKS
NORTH OF GANDY.
SO THIS IS A TRANSITION AREA WITH RESPECT TO
DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE BELIEVE THIS IS COMPATIBLE AS THE PLANNING
COMMISSION HAS POINTED OUT.
THE --
WE ARE JUST -- AS I SAID ONE BLOCK OFF OF MACDILL.
WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES IN THE
TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF LAND USE 9.2, 9.2.1, 9.3,
9.3.8.
SINGLE-FAMILY AREA OBJECTIVE 9.5.
LAND USE POLICY 9.51.
LAND USE POLICY 9.53.
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES 9.3.
9.30.
HOUSING 1.3, 1.31, 1.33, 1.34.
INFRASTRUCTURE 1.1, 1.16 AND COMPATIBLE AS WELL AS WELL
COASTAL HIGH HAZARD ARE DIRECTING DEVELOPMENT -- LESS
INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENTS AWAY FROM COASTAL HIGH HAZARDS,
1.1 AND 1.12.
WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND AND SUMMARY AND
CONCLUSION THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE AND COMPATIBLE
WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ALONG WEST BALLAST POINT
AND SOUTH PURITAN AVENUE AND CONSISTENT WITH THE
LONG-RANGE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN UNDER RESIDENTIAL-10, WE
CONCUR WITH THAT COMPLETELY.
I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF SHOULD
PROBABLY LOOKING AT IS NOT JUST WHETHER OR NOT THE
DEVELOPMENT DENSITY OR THE INTENSITY REGARDING THE
WIDTH AND DIMENSION OF THE PROPERTY BUT WHAT IS THE
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND THE ORIENTATION.
IN THIS CASE WE ARE ORIENTED BACK TO THE HISTORIC
PLATTING THAT WAS THERE.
AND ALSO ABSOLUTELY 100% CONSISTENT WITH THE
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT EXISTS ALONG BALLAST POINT.
WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH AREA TO COMPLY WITH THE RS-60;
HOWEVER, THE STREET FRONTAGE AND THE PLATTING DOES NOT
ALLOW US TO HAVE THAT.
AS ANNIE POINTED OUT, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 1200 -- WE
HAVE 60 -- BASICALLY 06 X 100 IF WE ORIENT THEM EAST
AND WEST AND WE CAN DEVELOP IT AND BUILD IT BY RIGHT.
WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS A BETTER OBJECTIVE TO TURN THOSE
UNITS TO THEY FACE -- ACCORDING TO THE ORIGINAL PLAT,
NORTH AND SOUTH AND DOES REQUIRE A CHANGE IN ZONING
BECAUSE WE CAN'T MEET THE 50-FOOT FRONTAGE.
I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE,
BUT WE BELIEVE WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
PATTERN.
WE HAD NO OBJECTIONS EITHER BY MAIL OR PHONE REGARDING
THIS PROJECT.
AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
19:48:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MISS BARNES.
THE BASIS FOR YOUR INCONSISTENCY AGAIN?
19:48:28 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
SO THE CONFORMING LOT MAP THAT WAS PROVIDED TAKES INTO
CONSIDERATION SUBJECT LOTS WITHIN 1320 SQUARE FEET AND
A RADIUS RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
SO BASED UPON THE ANALYSIS OF THOSE LOTS WITHIN 1320
SQUARE FEET, THE REQUEST WAS FOUND INCONSISTENT.
19:48:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
ALL RIGHT, BEING NONE.
ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
ITEM NUMBER 7?
19:49:09 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
AILEEN ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT AND
COORDINATION.
NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU.
19:49:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS
ITEM?
19:49:18 >>CLERK:
NO ONE IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK.
19:49:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION.
19:49:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.
19:49:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
19:49:25 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
19:49:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
19:49:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
19:49:29 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
19:49:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
19:49:36 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT
AT VOTE.
19:49:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CITRO.
19:49:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
ORDINANCE REZONING THE GENERAL SI SIN TEE OF 5502 SOUTH
PURITAN AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED OF ZONING CLASSIFICATION RS-06
RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE
FAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AS THE APPLICANT HAS
MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF OF COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE AND COMPLAINT WITH APPLICABLE GOALS AND
POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS NOTED IN THE
PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT.
THE DENSITY PROPOSED IS NOT EXCEEDING THE DENSITY UNDER
FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY AND COMPLIANT WITH THE LAND
DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THE PURPOSE -- THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PROMOTES AND
ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION,
CHARACTERS AND COMPATIBILITY OF THE SURROUNDING
NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:50:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
19:50:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL.
19:50:42 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
19:50:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
19:50:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
19:50:46 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
19:50:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
19:50:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
19:50:52 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT
AT VOTE.
SECOND READING APRIL 7, 2022 AT 9:30.
19:50:57 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
19:51:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ITEM NUMBER 8.
19:51:07 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL, ANNIE BARNES,
LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 8 FILE NO. REZ-21-122.
THE ADDRESS 409 SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE.
FROM RM-16 TO PD.
I WILL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO THE PLANNING
COMMISSION AT THIS TIME.
19:51:26 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE, AGAIN, WITH YOUR
PLANNING COMMISSION.
IS IN SOUTH TAMPA AGAIN.
IN THE SOUTH HOWARD NEIGHBORHOOD.
HYDE PARK IS THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
ABOUT A HALF MILE FROM THE SITE IN EVACUATION ZONE C
AND THE CLOSEST TRANSIT IS QUARTER MILE TO THE
NORTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE WITH THE INTERSECTION OF
WEST PLATT AND MELVILLE AVENUE.
HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE OFF PLAT.
VERY CLOSE TO POST HYDE PARK WHICH IS LOCATED TO THE
EAST OF THE SITE.
THE SITE -- THE STREET AND A LOT OF THE SURROUNDING
DEVELOPMENT HAS REALLY BEEN DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL.
DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL.
MOSTLY TOWN HOME STYLE DEVELOPMENT OR SINGLE-FAMILY
ATTACHED.
AND POST HYDE PARK IS, OF COURSE, A LARGE DEPARTMENT,
MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX.
SO THE SUBJECT SITE HAS A FUTURE LAND USE OF
RESIDENTIAL-35.
TO THE EAST, THIS IS RESIDENTIAL 50.
AND THE DARKER MAROON COLOR IS RESIDENTIAL-35.
COMMERCIAL 35 WHICH IS THE RED COLOR TO THE NORTH AND
COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 IS THE PINK TO THE NORTH AS WELL
THAT ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL USES.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ADD A TWO-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE FOR A TOTAL OF THREE UNITS.
SO THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT 35 DWELLING UNITS PER
ACRE.
SO THE REQUEST PROPOSES 27.7 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE ON
THE SITE SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL-35
CLASSIFICATION.
WE WOULD ASK THAT THE APPLICANT BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING ADD -- I THINK ANNIE WILL PROBABLY
EXPLAIN THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE TOO, BUT ADD A
CONNECTION FROM SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE TO THE PROPOSED
STRUCTURE IN THE REAR OF THE -- OF THE HOUSE.
A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION IS NEEDED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH
LU POLICY 9.2.6.
IF THE APPLICANT CAN DO THAT, PLANNING COMMISSION WILL
APPRECIATE THAT, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BUT OVERALL THIS SUPPORTS MANY POLICIES OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
COMPATIBLE INFILL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
IN AN AREA THAT SUPPORTS AN INCREASE IN RELATION
DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS A MODERATE DENSITY AREA.
AND SO WE DEFINED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND
USE CATEGORY AND SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND
CONSISTENT WITH THE HOUSING POLICIES TO PROVIDE ENOUGH
HOUSING FOR TAMPA'S GROWING POPULATION.
AGAIN, WE WILL INCLUDE MY PRESENTATION AND TURN OVER TO
ANNIE.
19:54:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
BEING NONE.
MISS BARNES.
19:54:17 >>ANASTASIA BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
MAY I PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.
AS MISS MALONE ALREADY STATED, THE APPLICANT IS
REQUESTING TO REZONE 4SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE FROM RM-16
TO RESIDENTIAL -- PD FOR RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACH AND RESIDENTIAL TWO-FAMILY USES.
THERE ARE NO WAIVERS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.
SHOWN HERE IS THE SURVEY OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
APPROXIMATELY .11 ACRES IN SIZE.
SHOWN HERE IS THE SITE AND ORIGINALLY PLATTED
SUBDIVISION PLATTED IN 1903.
HERE IS PART OF SITE PLAN PACKAGE PROVIDED BY THE
APPLICANT SHOWING THE PROPOSED OVERALL LAYOUT OF THE
SITE.
THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF THREE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING
UNITS ON THE SITE.
AND PROPOSED -- OR VEHICULAR ACCESS IS PROVIDED FROM
FREMONT AVENUE.
HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
SHOWN HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP SURROUNDING ZONINGS.
PROPERTY SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT SITE ARE DEVELOPED TO
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY.
THERE ARE SOME PDS AS WELL, BUT THEY ALLOW RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY USES, PARTICULARLY PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS
ZONED -- IS DEVELOPED WITH A DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS POST
HYDE PARK APARTMENTS.
SO HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FACING WEST ALONG SOUTH
FREMONT AVENUE.
SHOWN HERE IS A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FURTHER
SOUTH OF FREMONT AVENUE NORTHWEST.
SHOWN HERE, A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON THE LEFT
OF YOUR SCREEN FACING WEST ON SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE.
AND THESE ARE -- THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT -- APARTMENTS
THINK THAT MENTIONED EARLIER.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
THE PETITION AND FIND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE
APPLICABLE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
SHOULD COUNCIL GRANT THE REQUESTED REZONING
COMPETITION, FURTHER MODIFICATION OF SITE PLAN MUST BE
COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE
AS STATE IN THE REVISION SHEET.
MISS MALONE ALREADY STATED, THAT CONNECTION LANGUAGE
AND MODIFICATION HAS TO BE ADDED BEFORE FIRST AND
SECOND READING WHICH IS ALREADY ON THE REVISION SHEET.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR
ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
19:57:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS BARNES?
BEING NONE.
WE WILL GO TO THE APPLICANT.
SWEAR YOU IN.
19:57:20 >>CLERK:
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[SWEARING IN]
19:57:25 >> I DO.
19:57:28 >>CLERK:
THANK YOU.
19:57:30 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING OUR PETITION FOR REZONING
REZ 21-122.
I AM THE APPLICANT FOR THE PROJECT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
IS THAT POSSIBLE?
19:57:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, SIR.
19:57:48 >> OKAY.
HERE WE GO.
SORRY.
I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE PREPARED.
OKAY.
OKAY.
JUST A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE PROPERTY.
THE NEXT SLIDE -- A LITTLE BIT OF A ZOOM IN ON THE
AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH SHOW THE PROPERTY HERE.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ALLEY BEHIND THE PROPERTY,
THERE ARE ALREADY ACCESS TO THE MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS TO
THE NORTH, THE SOUTH, THE EAST.
SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO PUT PARKING FROM THE ALLEY INTO
THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY FOR FOUR PARKING SPACES AND
ALSO THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME WILL REMAIN AND A NEW
DRIVEWAY WILL BE INSTALLED WITH TWO TANDEM PARKING
SPACES WITH A TOTAL OF SIX PARKING SPACES.
THIS IS AN AERIAL BACK TO THE PROPERTY OVER TOP OF THE
POST HYDE PARK APARTMENTS.
THE EXISTING HOUSE IS GOING TO REMAIN.
IT IS A HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
AND WHAT WE WILL BE DOING IN THE BACK IS A TWO-FAMILY
DWELLING IN THE BACK HERE WHICH WILL ECHO THE FLORIDA
VERNACULAR ARCHITECTURE THAT IS THERE.
AGAIN, FRONT OF THE BUILDING IS EXISTING THAT WILL
REMAIN.
AND THIS IS OUR SITE PLAN PROPOSED.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING PAVED
ALLEY.
AND WE ARE COMING IN WITH FOUR PAVED SPACES FROM THE
REAR HERE.
THIS IS THE TWO-FAMILY DWELLING WITH SEPARATE
ENTRANCES, ONE ON THE GROUND LEVEL AND ONE ON THE
SECOND FLOOR.
AND THIS IS THE EXISTING HOUSE.
OUR PROPOSAL IS BASE ON THE REQUEST FROM THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE WILL BE PROVIDING A PATHWAY SOMEWHERE ALONG HERE TO
GET TO THE DRIVEWAY THAT WILL ALLOW ACCESS TO FREMONT
AVENUE.
AND THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
WE ARE USING WOOD SIDING WITH SHAKES AND DOUBLE-HUNG
WINDOWS, VERY SIMPLE FLORIDA VERNACULAR ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE REVIEWED OUR PROJECT FOUND OUR
PROPOSAL CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL AS
OUR DEVELOPMENT CODES.
AS I MENTIONED WE WILL BE PROVIDING A PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY,
AND THERE ARE SOME UPDATES TO BE DONE BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING.
I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST YOUR KIND CONSIDERATION FOR AN
APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL AGREE
THAT THE PROPOSAL IS BOTH APPROPRIATE AND SUBSTANTIVE TO THE
PROPERTY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:00:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
ALL RIGHT.
ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
20:01:10 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU.
20:01:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
20:01:14 >>THE CLERK:
NO REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
20:01:19 >> MOTION TO CLOSE BY MIRANDA.
20:01:26 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
20:01:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. BARNES?
IF I MAY, PLEASE.
20:01:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ARE WE GOING TO REOPEN THE HEARING?
20:01:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE.
VOTED ON THAT, HAVE WE?
20:01:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OH, THIS IS A VOTE TO CLOSE.
I'M SORRY.
20:01:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I SEE IT'S CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD BUT
LOOKING AT THE SITE PLANS, IS THERE GOING TO BE SPACE ON
THIS?
ARE THEY GOING TO MEET THE SETBACKS?
THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF BUILDING ON A SMALL LOT.
I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW IT MET ALL THE CONSISTENCY.
20:01:58 >>ANNIE BARNES:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
SO THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY WAIVERS TO THE CODE.
THE REASON WHY, THE SIMPLEST EXPLANATION, IT CAME IN AS A
DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT THE EXISTING LOT HAS BEEN AN
INTERESTING CONFIGURATION SINCE AT LEAST 1971 WITH THE
EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
IT'S ONLY 40 FEET IN WIDTH.
SO THAT COULD NOT BE EUCLIDEAN ZONING MINIMUM STANDARD, SO
THE SMALLEST WOULD BE 50 FEET IN WIDTH.
SO THIS LOT POSSIBILITY INCREASED DEVELOPMENT, OTHERWISE IT
WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED WITHOUT A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
20:02:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MS. BARNES.
YES, I VOTE TO CLOSE.
20:02:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
20:02:50 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
20:02:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
20:02:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
20:02:54 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
VOTE.
20:02:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MIRANDA?
20:03:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FILE 8, REZ 21-122, AN ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READ BEING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 409 SOUTH
FREMONT AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND
RESIDENTIAL TWO-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
20:03:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL.
20:03:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
20:03:33 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
20:03:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
20:03:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
20:03:39 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
20:03:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
20:03:41 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
VOTE.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 7th,
2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
20:03:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ITEM NUMBER 9.
20:03:51 >>ANNIE BARNES:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 9 IS REZ 21-125, SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT
2501 NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS-60 TO RS-50.
I'LL TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
20:04:13 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
PLANNING COMMISSION.
AS ANNIE STATED THIS IS 21-125, TAMPA BUSINESS PLANNING
DISTRICT, RECREATIONAL FACILITY LOCATED JUST ONE BLOCK FROM
THE SITE, IN EVACUATION ZONE C AND THERE IS TRANSIT LOCATED
ONE BLOCK NORBERT FROM THE SITE AT THE INTERSECTION OF
GLENWOOD DRIVE AND WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE SITE.
AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S JUST SOUTH OF WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
THE PATTERN ALONG WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE IS COMMERCIAL IN
NATURE, THE GAS STATION TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE, AND ONE
SOUTH OF WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
THE FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL 10.
TO THE NORTH, THIS GREEN PIECE IS PHILLIPS PARK, OPEN SPACE,
THAT COUNCIL HAS SEEN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
THIS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 WHICH ALLOWS FOR THIS COMMERCIAL
USE ON WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
AND IT WAS FELT WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE IS PRETTY MUCH
RESIDENTIAL 10 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, WHICH IS -- A USE THE
ZONING WOULD COMMIT, AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN, AND WITH THAT RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE
DESIGNATION IT SUPPORTS MANY POLICIES OF THE PLAN AS
SUPPORTS TO HOUSING IN THIS POPULATION.
IT'S AN AREA OF THE CITY SEEKS INCREASED IN-FILL
DEVELOPMENT, AND THE POLICY ABOUT EMERGING NEW HOUSING ON
VACANT OR UNDERUTILIZED LAND, WE FOUND IT WAS COMPATIBLE AND
COMPARABLE ALONG WEST GLENWOOD DRIVE.
THIS PORTION OF NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE HAS AN EXISTING DENSITY
OF 5.55 UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS BELOW WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN IS INDICATING.
SO WE DID NOT FIND IT WOULD HAVE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS AND
THIS WOULD BE AGAIN WITNESS CAN THE LONG RANGE DEVELOPMENT
PATTERN.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER.
20:06:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. MALONE?
SEEING NONE, MS. BARNES?
20:06:15 >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
MAY I PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS-60 TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY, NO WAIVERS ARE REQUESTED.
THIS IS IN -- ZONING.
SUBJECT PROPERTY PROVIDES TWO PLATTED LOTS THAT WERE PLATTED
IN 1922.
THIS IS A SURVEY OF THE CURRENT SITE.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 14,665 SQUARE FEET INSIDE.
SHOWN HERE IS THE CONFORMING LOT MAP.
STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THAT 65% OF THE LOTS IN THIS STUDY
AREA, 80% OF THE SUBJECT LOT, OF NORTH GLENWOOD AVENUE, 100%
OF BLOCK B, FROM LOT WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH
SURROUNDING ZONING.
AS YOU CAN SEE LARGELY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF SOME HIGHER INTENSITY ALONG WEST COLUMBUS
DRIVE.
SEW SHOWN HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FACING EAST FROM
NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE.
SO HERE IS THE PROPERTY FACING NORTH FROM WEST AMELIA
AVENUE.
HERE ARE SUBJECT PROPERTY, SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ON BOTH
SIDES, AMELIA AVENUE FACING EAST, AS WELL AS PROPERTIES ON
ALONGSIDE OF NORTH GLENWOOD AVENUE TOWARDS COLUMBUS DRIVE,
ON THE SAME SIDE AS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW -- DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION STAFF HAS
REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT
WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
ADDITIONALLY BASED ON THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF
THE AREA, SUBJECT LOT, BLOCK AND LOT FACE.
20:08:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. BARNES?
SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
20:08:33 >> SHANE O'NEIL, THE OWNER BUILDER ON THE PROPERTY.
AS MENTIONED BEFORE, A NARROW SHOT OF RIDGEWOOD PARK,
ACTUALLY A RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ALSO A DEVELOPER.
THE RED STAR REPRESENTS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
THE GREEN STARS ALL REFERENCE PROPERTIES THAT WERE SINGLE
HOME ON A DOUBLE LOT, RS-60 TURNED INTO RS-50.
I DID THIS PERSONALLY ON 708 WEST AMELIA, DEVELOPED THE TWO
HOMES THERE.
I DID THE SAME THING FOR WEST PARK BY WAY OF A PD WITH A CUP
OF DIFFERENT REQUESTS ON THAT PROJECT.
CLOSE FRIEND OF MINE JUST DID THE RS-60 AT 2011 NORTH
RIVERSIDE DRIVE LATE LAST YEAR, AND THE SAME REZONING
RS-60-RS-50 2408 NORTH GLENWOOD.
SO IT IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND AS WE
DEVELOP THE PLAN.
ON THE DOCUMENT HERE KIND OF SHOWS AN AERIAL SHOP OF
GLENWOOD DRIVE AS MENTIONED.
MOST HOMES, MOST LOTS ON THIS STRIP ARE 59 FEET OR LESS, AND
EVERY SINGLE LOT HERE, AND HERE, ARE EXACTLY 50 FEET IN
WIDTH.
SO AGAIN GOING BACK TO -- IT DOES FIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
THE PRECEDENT IS THERE FOR THIS TYPE OF REZONING.
IT'S NOT SITE PLAN DRIVEN, SO IT IS EUCLIDIAN, BUT AS SOON
AS WE GET THE APPROVAL HERE, THEY WILL START DESIGNING
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO BUILD ON THESE TWO VACANT LOTS.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
20:10:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYTHING FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
20:10:28 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THERE IS NO ONE HEAR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU.
20:10:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
20:10:33 >>THE CLERK:
NO ONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
20:10:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE TO CLOSE BY MIRANDA.
SECOND?
SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL.
20:10:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
20:10:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
20:10:47 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
20:10:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
20:10:51 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
20:10:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
20:10:53 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
VOTE.
20:10:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT, MR. VIERA, WILL YOU HANDLE
NUMBER 9 FOR US?
20:11:01 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
THE PROBLEM IS, I DON'T HAVE -- SINCE I AM NOT THERE I DON'T
HAVE --
20:11:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANISCALCO WILL TAKE IT.
THANK YOU.
20:11:08 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
MY APOLOGIES.
20:11:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2501 NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM 60
RESIDENTIAL TO RS 0 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET THEIR BURDEN OF PROOF WITH COMPETENT
AND EVIDENCE, WE SAW THE CONSISTENCY FINDING AS WELL.
AND REALLY THAT'S IT.
20:11:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA?
20:11:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
20:11:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
20:11:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
20:11:55 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
20:11:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
20:11:58 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
20:12:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
20:12:01 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
VOTE.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 7, 2022 AT
9:30 A.M.
20:12:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
THE LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 13.
20:12:14 >>ANNIE BARNES:
ITEM 13 IS REZ 22-22, 3302 WEST OR RATIO
STREET, FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 24 TO PD.
I WILL TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO JENNIFER MALONE WITH
PLANNING.
20:12:40 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
PLANNING COMMISSION.
I AM PRESENTING ON 22-22.
I APOLOGIZE.
LET ME GET MY NOTES IN ORDER.
THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET TO THE
SOUTH, LEVEL C EVACUATION ZONE.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
IT'S CURRENTLY A VACANT -- TO THE NORTH, AND I APOLOGIZE, I
BELIEVE I SAID EARLIER THIS IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
DISTRICT.
I WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT THE RECORD.
IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
TO THE NORTH IS A MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX, TO THE WEST OF THE
SITE RESIDENTIAL, AND MOST OF THE SURROUNDING AREA HAS BEEN
DEVELOPED WITH A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT TYPES.
SUBJECT SITE IS RESIDENTIAL 35.
TYPICALLY RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY, BUT SOME NEIGHBORHOOD
SERVING USES AND A PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IS CONSIDERED
ONE OF THOSE.
AND THEN TO THE WEST OF THE SITE IS HENDERSON BOULEVARD, AND
COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 WHICH IS COMMERCIAL USES ALLOWABLE IN
THAT LAND USE CATEGORY.
PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL THROUGH THIS PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW REDEVELOPMENT OF AN EXISTING PLACE OF
RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.
SO TYPICALLY, AND NOW RECORDS SHOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN A
PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY ON THE SITE SINCE ABOUT 1906 SO
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES RECOGNIZE THIS ESTABLISHMENT OF
THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE DID NOT FIND ANY
CONCERNS WITH COMPATIBILITY HAVING MIXED USE IN THE
RESIDENTIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
AND THE RESIDENTIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE ALLOWS FOR PLACE OF
RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IF CERTAIN CRITERIA IS MET.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS DETERMINED ITS USE IS
COMPATIBLE.
I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT THEY ARE WELL BELOW THE FLOOR AREA
LACE OWE WHICH IS A NUMBER THAT DETERMINES THE AMOUNT OF
SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT CAN BE BUILT ON A SITE IN THE
RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES, SO THAT WAY, ANY
RESIDENTIAL REMAINS COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT,
AND THIS IS VERY, VERY MUCH -- VERY WELL IN LINE WITH THEIR
MAXIMUM THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED.
SO WE DID NOT HAVE ANY CONCERNS THERE.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I WILL TURN IT BACK TO ANNIE.
20:15:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. MALONE?
MS. BARNES?
20:15:16 >>ANNIE BARNES:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I AM GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ZONE 3302 WEST HORATIO STREET
FROM RM-24 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR PLACE OF RELIGIOUS
ASSEMBLY.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING WAIVERS, AS SHOWN
ON THE SCREEN HERE.
SHOWN HERE IS THE SURVEY OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH HALF OF LOTS 1 AND 2,
PLATTED IN 1910 AS SHOWN HERE.
PRINCIPAL BUILDING SETBACKS ARE AS FOLLOWS: NORTH 10 FEET,
SOUTH 66 FEET, EAST 20 FEET, WEST 167 FEET.
APPROACHED MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 38 FEET WITH
CONDITIONAL HEIGHT ALLOWED FOR PARAPET AND STEEPLE, A BELL
TOWER, A TOTAL OF 96 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 100
SPACES ARE BEING PROVIDED.
VEHICULAR INGRESS AND EGRESS IS PROVIDED FROM WEST HORATIO
STREET AND SOUTH LINCOLN AVE.
SHOWN HERE ARE THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS PROVIDED BY THE
APPLICANT.
HERE IS THE AERIAL MAP SHOWING SURROUNDING USES.
PROPERTY SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT SITE A BODY OF RESIDENTIAL
AND COMMERCIAL USES.
SHOWN HERE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FACING SOUTHWEST TERRITO AND
THE INTERSECTION OF WEST HORATIO AND SOUTH LINCOLN AVENUE.
FURTHER WEST, IT SHOWS THE EXISTING BUILDING INCORPORATED
INTO THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
SHOWN HERE IS A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE FACING ON THE
LEFT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN FACING WEST ALONG WEST HORATIO
STREET.
SHOWN HERE IS THE PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON THE LEFT
SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN, NORTH ALONG SOUTH LINCOLN AVENUE.
AGAIN, THE INTERSECTION OF WEST HORATIO STREET AND SOUTH
LINCOLN.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION AND FINDS THE OVERALL REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
PLEASE REFER TO DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, TRANSPORTATION AND
NATURAL RESOURCES COMMENTS FOR OVERALL INCONSISTENCY
FINDING.
IF COUNCIL GRANTS THE REQUESTED WAIVERS BASED ON THE WAIVER
JUSTIFICATION BY THE APPLICANT, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE
SITE PLAN MUST BE COMPLETED IN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING OF THE ORDINANCE AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
20:18:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
WE WILL GO TO THE APPLICANT.
20:18:34 >> JONATHAN MOORE, 13014 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
I ALSO HAVE ANDREW PUPKE WITH ME.
FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF TAMPA. DON'T WORRY, ONLY THE
PASTOR AND I WILL BE SPEAKING BUT THEY WANTED TO BE HERE TO
HAVE OUR BACK.
I ALSO HAVE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER DAVID BELL WITH LANDMARK
ENGINEERING ONLINE AND RICKY PETERIKA FROM DARK MOSS,
ARBORIST CONSULTANTS ONLINE.
THEY HAVE REGISTERED TO SPEAK IF NEEDED AND I BELIEVE I SAW
THEM ON THE VOODOO ZOOM THING.
SO WE ARE THE AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR FIRST PRESB IN THE MATTER
BEFORE YOU WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF SEVEN WAIVERS UNDER A
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT REZONE.
THE WAIVERS REPRESENT CONFORMING A PROPERTY HISTORICALLY
USED FOR RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.
THERE HAS BEEN A CHURCH ON THIS PROPERTY FOR ALMOST FIFTY
YEARS.
TO BE COMPLIANT WITH CURRENT CODES AND ALLOWING THE CHURCH
TO CONSTRUCT THE INTENDED SANCTUARY WITHOUT ADVERSE IMPACT
TO ITS MISSION FOR ON-SITE PARKING.
IF I CAN ASK BRIAN AND THE GREAT CTTV TEAM TO PUT UP THE
PowerPoint, I THINK WE SENT.
MAYBE?
20:20:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
PowerPoint PRESENTATION?
20:20:08 >> IF NOT I HAVE PRINTED COPIES I CAN PUT ON OUR --
20:20:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CTTV, DO WE HAVE HIS PRESENTATION?
20:20:23 >> IT'S ALL RIGHT.
I DON'T WANT TO WASTE TIME.
I WILL PUT THE PRINTED COPY UP ON THE OVERHEAD, IF I CAN DO
THAT.
20:20:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT WILL BE FINE, SIR.
20:20:36 >> I WOULD NOW LIKE TO INTRODUCE PASTOR FIFTHS CONNOR TO
PRESENT A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE CHURCH AND ITS MISS, FIRST
PREZ TAMPA.
20:20:49 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT, ALLOWING
US TO BE WITH YOU, PROUD TO BE THE SECOND LONGEST PASTOR,
TENURED PRACTICE OF FIRST PRESB IN 38 YEARS OF GREAT MISSION
AND HISTORY IN TAMPA.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS PART OF OUR HISTORY.
WE WERE A FOUNDING CHURCH IN WHAT NOW IS METROPOLITAN
MINISTRIES AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THAT.
WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN DOING GOOD THINGS IN THE CITY SINCE
INCEPTION.
THIS LOCATION WILL BE ABOUT THE FIFTH OR SIXTH, CHURCH, WE
ARE NOT SURE, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO SELL OUR PROPERTY DOWNTOWN
AT 412 ZACK STREET.
WE WERE LANDLOCKED.
WE HAD LITERALLY ZERO PARKING.
SO WE ARE EXUBERANT.
THESE FOLKS BEHIND ME ARE ALL LEADERS AND THEY ARE EXCITED.
WE ARE GOING TO DO GREAT THINGS AS GOOD NEIGHBORS.
WE ARE GOING TO MAKE OUR FACILITY AVAILABLE FOR FAMILIES
WITH CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PLAYGROUND OUTSIDE SO FAMILIES CAN
USE IT IN THE AFTERNOONS.
WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
WE REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEFORE THE OFFICIAL
MAILING AND HAD A MEETING AT THE CHURCH TO WELCOME OUR
NEIGHBORS AND INVITE THEM INTO THE LIFE OF WHAT WE ARE
DOING.
THERE'S GRINS ON THE FACE OF EVERYBODY BEHIND ME BECAUSE WE
ARE EXCITED.
WE CAN PARK CARS.
WE CAN DO THINGS.
WE CAN MAKE THINGS HAPPEN AT THE CHURCH.
AND REACH OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND EXTEND OURSELVES
WITH THE HAND OF GRACE AND LOVE AND WHAT WE ARE ALL ABOUT.
SO THANK YOU FOR -- WE HUMBLY ASK YOU TO APPROVE OUR
REQUEST.
THANK YOU.
20:22:18 >> I WILL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE SLIDES.
ANDREW, DO YOU WANT TO COME AND HELP ME FLIP?
SO THE CHURCH HAS EXISTED ON THIS PROPERTY SINCE 1960.
FIRST PRES REMODELED ONES OF THE EXISTING TO FIRST SERVICE
AND INTERIM SANCTUARY.
THE USE WILL TRANSITION TO CHILDREN'S MINISTRY AND COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT.
THE FORMER SANCTUARY DID NOT FIT FIRST PRESBYTERIAN'S
MISSION AND VISION FOR THE FUTURE AND WAS RAISED TO ALLOW
FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SANCTUARY.
APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED WAIVERS WILL ALLOW FOR THE
CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW 20,856 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WHICH
INCLUDES THE SANCTUARY AND A TWO-STORY GATHERING SPACE THAT
CONNECTS THE SANCTUARY TO THE CHILDREN'S MINISTRY BUILDINGS.
THE GATHERINGS HAVE A WELCOMING AREA, RESTROOMS, CHURCH
OFFICE ON THE FIRST FLOOR, CLASSROOM AND MEETING SPACES ON
THE SECOND FLOOR, THE SANCTUARY WILL HAVE 320 SEATS, THE
CAMPUS WILL HAVE 100 PARKING SPACES.
NEXT SLIDE.
28 ON-SITE TREES WILL REMAIN INCLUDING 12 LIVE OAKS, SEVEN
TREES ARE PLANNED TO BE REMOVED.
THE NEW CONSTRUCTION ENCROACHES INTO THE TREE LOCATION.
THE SMALLEST AMOUNT OF ALTERATION WE CAN ACCOMPLISH TO
RETAIN THE TREES MAKES THE SANCTUARY BASICALLY UNUSABLE IN
SOME ALTERNATE DESIGNS THAT WE'LL SHOW YOU.
THE DESIGN ALTERNATE THAT WE HAVE DONE SHOWS A LITTLE NOTCH
IN THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND CORNER.
THE DESIGN ALTERNATIVE RESULTS IN THE LOSS OF FIVE
ADDITIONAL TREES ALONG WITH 30 PARKING SPACES AND RELOCATES
THE CHURCH MUCH CLOSER TO THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.
THE CHURCH CANNOT MEET PARKING REQUIREMENTS WITH THE LOSS OF
30 PARKING SPACES.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY THIS ONE.
GO TO THE ELEVATION.
AND JUST THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.
AND FINAL SITE PLAN, THE TREE SURVEY.
I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANY COMMENTS UNLESS THERE ARE
QUESTIONS.
AGAIN, WE HAVE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER, DAVID BELL, AND ARBORIST
RICKY PETERIKA ON THE INTERWEB FOR ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
AGAIN WE APPRECIATE STAFF'S HELP AND GUIDANCE THROUGH ALL OF
THIS.
AND WE APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S TIME.
20:24:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
20:25:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT.
I THINK IT'S PRETTY UNFAIR THAT THEY BRING THEIR FIRST
WITNESS WHO HAS A CLOSE PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD TO
TRY TO SWAY US.
NO, NOTHING FURTHER, MR. CHAIRMAN.
20:25:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
20:25:36 >>AILEEN ROSARIO:
THEY DON'T WANT TO SPEAK SO THERE'S NO ONE
ELSE HERE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
20:25:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
20:25:45 >>THE CLERK:
YES, WE HAVE MICHAEL SWEENEY.
MICHAEL, IF YOU CAN PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
(OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
20:26:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, SIR.
20:26:12 >>THE CLERK:
PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
20:26:19 >> I WILL.
20:26:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
I AM ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CHURCH FOR ABOUT THE PAST SIX
YEARS, AND THIS IS A BIG MOVE FOR US AND IT'S VERY EXCITING.
I THINK FOR WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS GOING TO COMPLETELY
REVITALIZE THIS LOT THAT'S BEEN KIND OF STAGNANT FOR THE
LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
SO I AM HOPING THAT YOU WILL APPROVE THIS.
20:26:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
ANYONE ELSE REGISTERED TO SPEAK?
20:26:51 >>THE CLERK:
THAT WAS IT.
20:26:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
SECOND BY MIRANDA.
20:26:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
20:27:00 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
20:27:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
20:27:03 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
20:27:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
20:27:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
20:27:06 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER ABSENT AT VOTE.
20:27:09 >>BILL CARLSON:
IF I MISS SOMETHING, SOMEBODY CAN ADD IN.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE REZ 22-22, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3302 WEST
HORATIO STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RM-24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE, INCLUDING THE REVISION SHEET, THE WAIVERS,
AND THE APPLICANT HAS MET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE
COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AS WELL AS CONDITIONS
SHOWING THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SITE PLAN, CITY
CODE, THE REQUESTED WAIVERS DO NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT HEALTH,
SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE.
20:28:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL.
20:28:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
20:28:10 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
20:28:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
20:28:12 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
20:28:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
20:28:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
20:28:20 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
VOTE.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 7, 2022 AT
9:30 A.M.
20:28:28 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
20:28:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE COME TO THAT HOUR.
MR. SHELBY, ANYTHING, SIR?
20:28:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NONE FOR ME, THANK YOU, SIR.
20:28:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. VIERA?
20:28:43 >>LUIS VIERA:
ME?
20:28:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, SIR.
20:28:46 >>LUIS VIERA:
OH, YES, SIR.
THANK YOU, SIR.
A COUPLE, IF I MAY.
I SENT A MOTION TO BE DEDICATED TO THE LATE DR. PIZANO,
BE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF IN WORKING WITH THE DESIGN --
[~DISTORTION~] AND MAY 19th CITY COUNCIL MEETING REPORT
BACK.
20:29:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL.
20:29:15 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
20:29:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
20:29:22 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
20:29:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
20:29:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
20:29:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
20:29:27 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
VOTE.
20:29:30 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
NEXT, IF I MAY, I WANT TO DO A COMMENDATION THAT I CAN HAND
OVER FOR STATE TROOPER TONI SCHUCK, 26th YEAR AS FLORIDA
HIGHWAY, POSITIONED HER VEHICLE TO STOP A DRUNK DRIVER.
I AM GOING TO MEET UP WITH OFFICER MALONE NOT NEXT WEEK BUT
THE WEEK THEREAFTER TO HAND IT OVER.
I WILL NOT BE GIVING IT TO THE TROOPER.
SHE'S OBVIOUSLY IN MEDICAL CONDITION.
I AM GOING TO RELY UPON THEM TO GIVE IT TO HER.
BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA SHOULD
SALUTE.
20:30:15 >> SECOND.
20:30:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL.
20:30:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
20:30:22 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
20:30:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
20:30:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
20:30:28 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
20:30:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
20:30:30 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
VOTE.
20:30:33 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
AND --
20:30:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ONE SECOND.
YOU SAID YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE THE COMMENDATION, SOMEBODY
HAS TO GIVE TO THE TROOPER?
20:30:44 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
AND WHAT I WILL DO IS I WILL SEND OUT THE INFORMATION TO
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IN CASE PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE THEIR
PRESENCE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
IT'S JUST THAT RIGHT NOW, SHE'S SEEKING MEDICAL CARE,
ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO IN OTHER WORDS THEY ARE NOT COMING HERE, AND I AM NOT
GOING TO BE MEETING THE TROOPER UNDER ANY FORESEEABLE
CIRCUMSTANCES.
DOES ANYBODY NEED CLARIFICATION ON THAT?
20:31:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IF YOU CAN'T DO IT, I THINK THIS COUNCIL
IS GOING TO GIVE SOMEBODY TO A TROOPER LIKE THAT, I AM GOING
TO THE HOSPITAL GIVING OUT AWARDS, AND I THINK IT'S MORE
SYMBOLIC COMING FROM TO US ACTUALLY GIVE IT TO THE TROOPER.
SO IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT I WE BE HAPPY OR BRING SOMEBODY ELSE
FROM THE COUNCIL.
BUT GET THE INFORMATION, I WILL BE HAPPY TO.
20:31:34 >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU KNOW WHAT, MR. CHAIRMAN?
IF I MAY, I WILL CALL UP MS. MALONE ON THAT, AND FORMALLY
HAND IT OVER TO HER BUT WE CAN DO SOMETHING MORE FORMAL.
LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, IF I MAY.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY EXPECTATIONS THAT WE --
20:31:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NOT A PROBLEM.
MR. CARLSON.
20:32:01 >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK IF YOU IF IT'S APPROPRIATE AT SOME
POINT, IF THE TROOPER WOULD LIKE, WOULD BE GREAT TO
RECOGNIZE HER EITHER BY ZOOM OR IN PERSON, BECAUSE WE HAD WE
HAD AN OFFICER, AND THIS OFFICER PUT HER LIFE ON THE LINE
AND SURVIVED, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE REMEMBER THE DEEDS
AND THE RISKS THAT THESE OFFICERS TAKE EVERY DAY.
SO IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED, LEAVE IT UP TO HER,
BUT IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED PUBLICLY, I THINK WE
SHOULD ACCOMMODATE HER BY ZOOM OR IN PERSON AT SOME POINT IN
THE FUTURE.
20:32:47 >>LUIS VIERA:
ABSOLUTELY.
I AGREE 110%.
I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO HER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE CONTACT AS WELL, PLEASE FEEL
FREE.
BUT I --
20:33:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. VIERA?
20:33:05 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, IF I MAY.
I WANT TO GIVE A COMMENDATION -- WE DO ONE EVERY YEAR, A
PLAY PUT ON BY PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
I'M MAKING THAT MOTION.
20:33:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
MR. SHELBY?
20:33:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. VIERA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU
WANTED TO BRING UP TONIGHT WITH REGARD TO THAT, WITH REGARD
TO THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE FOR THE 24th?
DID YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT TONIGHT?
20:33:36 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
THAT WAS MY LAST.
20:33:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION WHICH MR. VIERA, SECOND BY MR.
MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL.
20:33:44 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
20:33:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
20:33:49 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
20:33:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
20:33:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
20:33:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
20:33:53 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
VOTE.
20:33:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MS. AILEEN, GOOD NIGHT.
TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF.
20:34:01 >>LUIS VIERA:
LASTLY, IF I MAY, SIR, MR. SHELBY HAD
MENTIONED MEETING ON CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
A MOTION FOR AN ATTORNEY FOR THE CRB BOARD, FOR STAFF TO
PRESENT AN ORDINANCE ON THAT, WHICH APPEARS THAT'S GOING TO
BE -- OUR STAFF IS VERY BUSY.
WHAT I WANT TO DO IS REPLACE THAT WITH A MOTION TO BE
CONSIDERED BY CITY COUNCIL THAT DAY.
FOR THAT DATE.
BECAUSE I STILL WANT IT TO BE ON THE DOCKET.
BUT IT JUST CHANGES THE LANGUAGE, THAT IT'S NOT PRESENTED IN
THE ORDINANCE.
SO I WANTED TO REVISE THAT IF I MAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
I HAD DISCUSSION WITH MR. SHELBY.
20:34:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THOUGHT ALL CHARTERS -- I'M CONFUSED
WHAT HE'S ASKING.
20:34:52 >> RATHER THAN COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE BECAUSE I HAD
CONVERSATION WITH LEGAL, AND FRANKLY, THE CONCERN, MY
CONCERN WAS THAT IT IS A MORE INVOLVED PROCESS RELATIVE TO
THE CREATION OF THAT SORT OF ORDINANCE RELATIVE TO THE CRB,
AND WITH THE FACILITATOR, I'M CONCERNED THAT THAT WOULD TAKE
A PROCESS OUT OF WHAT THE FACILITATOR HAS PLANNED.
SO I ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH MS. ZELMAN, AND I
ALSO HAD TO SPEAK TO MS. PETTIS-MACKLE, AND THERE ARE OTHER
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT TO COME UP.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A REPORT COMING TO COUNCIL IN THE NEXT
COUPLE OF MONTHS FROM THE CRB, ITS FIRST ANNUAL REPORT UNDER
THE NEW ORDINANCE.
SO RATHER THAN HAVE THIS AS A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THE
WORKSHOP WITH THE FACILITATOR BEING HERE, I WOULD ASK THAT
IT JUST BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF IT SO WE CAN PICK IT UP
FROM THERE, TO ROLL IT IN.
20:35:55 >>LUIS VIERA:
SO IF I MAY, SIR, THE INTENT MIGHT HAVE
MOTION IS TO KEEP IT THERE BUT JUST -- THEY HAD TO HAVE AN
ORDINANCE PRESENTED TO US THAT DAY.
THAT'S IT.
WE DISCUSS IT.
IT'S SET.
SET IN STONE.
THAT WAS MY INTENT WHEN I MADE IT.
20:36:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CARLSON?
20:36:14 >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO PUT THAT THERE,
BECAUSE WHEN WE SCHEDULED THIS DISCUSSION ORIGINALLY, PART
OF IT WAS ABOUT THE CRB, AND THE PUBLIC IS CIRCULATING
DISCUSS ABOUT CRB.
SINCE THEN WE HAVE ADDED SEVERAL OTHER THINGS NOT RELATED TO
CRB, AND ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT CAME UP ABOUT THE CRB
WAS SUBPOENA POWER, AND SEVERAL ATTORNEYS OUTSIDE THE CITY
HAVE SAID THAT CITY COUNCIL ALREADY HAS SUBPOENA POWER AND
THEY HAVE SHOWN TO THE ME IN THE CHARTER.
AND SO I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU ALL TO TALK TO OUTSIDE
ATTORNEYS ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T SEE A NEED TO ADD SUBPOENA POWER IN THE CHARTER FOR
CITY COUNCIL IF IT'S ALREADY THERE.
THE OPINION BEFORE WAS WE COULDN'T DELEGATE -- DON'T HAVE
IT.
SO I THINK THE UNDERLYING ISSUE FOR A LOT OF THINGS IS WE
NEED TO TAKE A CONFLICT AWAY FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM ANSWER TO THREE DIFFERENT CLIENTS, WE
NEED TO CHANGE THAT SO THERE'S NO CONFLICT.
BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT ON THAT DAY.
THANK YOU.
20:37:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I SEE WHERE YOU ARE GOING.
YOU ARE RIGHT, THE CHARTER DOES HAVE SUBPOENA POWER, NOT FOR
POLICE BUT IT DOES GIVE SUBPOENA POWER, SO A
CLARIFICATION --
20:37:32 >>BILL CARLSON:
AND THEY CAN SUBPOENA ALL OTHER PEOPLE
AROUND IT.
SUBPOENA INFORMATION.
BUT THAT'S WHY THERE WILL BE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT
WILL BE DISAPPOINTED IF WE DON'T DIRECTLY ADDRESS THAT BUT
IT'S ALREADY IN THE CHARTER SO WHY SHOULD THE INTERPRETATION
THAT I DISAGREE WITH, NOT THAT WE NEED TO ADD.
20:37:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I AGREE.
MR. VIERA, YOUR MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR.
MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
ROLL CALL.
20:37:58 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
20:38:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
20:38:03 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
20:38:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
20:38:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
20:38:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
20:38:08 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
VOTE.
20:38:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE OUGHT TO DO A ROLL CALL --
20:38:15 >>LUIS VIERA:
I AM GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT.
20:38:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WILL FIND OUT HOW OTHER JURISDICTIONS DO
IT BUT CERTAINLY FOR THE HEARINGS.
20:38:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANISCALCO.
20:38:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOTHING SIR.
20:38:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CARLSON.
20:38:29 >>BILL CARLSON:
THREE THINGS IF I COULD.
I HAVE GOT A FORM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK TO BE RECEIVED
AND FILED, FOR LAST THURSDAY'S ITEM, REZ 21-123, INVOLVED
PROPERTY RELATED TO THE METHODIST CHURCH, AND MY PR FIRM
DOES WORK RELATED TO IT SO I HAD TO RECUSE MYSELF.
20:38:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
OPPOSED?
MOTION GRANTED.
20:39:00 >>BILL CARLSON:
LET ME TURN THIS OUT AND YOU CAN TELL ME
WHETHER YOU WANT TO VOTE ON IT OR NOT.
BUT WITH THIS SO-CALLED DON'T SAY GAY THING IN FRONT OF THE
GOVERNOR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE PRESS TODAY,
THE CEO OF DISNEY PUSHED BACK AFTER A LOT OF PRESSURE AND
SAID HE WANTS THE GOVERNOR TO VETO IT.
THE GOVERNOR PUSHED BACK AND SAID WE DON'T NEED WORLD
COMPANIES.
THIS COUNCIL AND THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION FELT VERY
STRONGLY ABOUT PROTECTING HUMAN RIGHTS AND I DON'T THINK WE
SHOULD PASS SOME LONG DOCUMENT, BUT LET ME THROW THIS OUT
BEFORE AND YOU TELL ME WHETHER YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THIS OR
NOT.
BUT I THINK WE SHOULD PASS JUST A SHORT STATEMENT THAT SAYS
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL BELIEVES IN FREE SPEECH AND THE
PROTECTION OF HUMAN RIGHTS, THEREFORE WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE
PARENTAL RIGHTS AND EDUCATION/DON'T SAY GAY BILL IN THE
FLORIDA LEGISLATURE.
20:39:59 >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
20:40:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
20:40:04 >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL SECOND THAT BUT ONLY WITH THE
STIPULATION, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THAT -- [DISTORTION]. I'M
JOKING.
BUT I'LL SECOND THAT, IF I MAY.
20:40:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF VIERA WRITES IT, IT'LL BE A NOVEL.
[LAUGHTER]
20:40:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
20:40:39 >>BILL CARLSON:
IS ANYBODY OPPOSED TO VOTING ON THIS?
SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
OPPOSED?
MOTION GRANTED.
WHAT ELSE?
20:40:48 >>BILL CARLSON:
THE LAST THING, AND AGAIN, YOU ALL CAN TELL
ME IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THIS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF
CONFUSION IN THE PUBLIC, AND WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF CALLS
AND E-MAILS ABOUT THE TITLES, DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE NOT
YET CONFIRMED BY CITY COUNCIL.
SO I WILL THROW THIS OUT AND YOU TELL ME IF YOU WANT TO VOTE
OR NOT.
I WOULD MOVE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO APPEAR
BEFORE COUNCIL ON MARCH 17th BEFORE THE VOTE ON THE
POLICE CHIEF NOMINEE TO EXPLAIN THEIR INTERPRETATION IN THE
TAMPA CHARTER WITH REGARD TO THE TITLE OF DEPARTMENT HEADS
THAT HAVE BEEN NOMINATED BY THE MAYOR BUT NOT YET VOTED ON
BY CITY COUNCIL.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE SHOULD BRING UP THIS ISSUE BECAUSE WE
ARE GOING TO BE VOTING ON THE CHARTER FANNED THERE'S
CONFUSION, IF WE AGREE, IT IS THEIR INTERPRETATION, THEN,
BUT IF BEING WE DISAGREE IT WOULD REQUIRE TWEAKING OF THE
CHARTER.
20:41:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK WE NEED THAT ANYWAY.
20:41:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO WHAT YOU ARE ASKING IS TO CLARIFY
HOW ONE TRANSITIONS FROM INTERIM TO ACTING TO, YOU KNOW,
PERMANENT POSITION WITHOUT A COUNCIL VOTE?
IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ASKING?
20:42:10 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
AS FAR AS I REMEMBER RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO DEPARTMENTS
DEPARTMENT HEADS, AND NOTHING AGAINST THEM, BUT THEY ARE
BOTH USING THE TITLE.
IT DOESN'T SAY INTERIM OR NOMINEE.
AND THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE LEGAL INTERPRETATION OF
CHARTER?
I THINK THE CHARTER IS VAGUE.
BUT IF YOUR CLIENT IS CITY COUNCIL AND YOU PROBABLY WOULD
SAY -- SUGGEST THAT IT SAY NOMINEE OR SUBJECT TO
CONFIRMATION.
IF YOUR CLIENT IS THE MAYOR, WOULD YOU SAY THAT IT'S JUST A
TITLE.
AND A LAWYER COULD INTERPRET IT EITHER WAY DEPENDING ON WHO
THE CLIENT HE'S REPRESENTING.
20:42:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHY DON'T WE HOLD THAT OFF UNTIL THE
WORKSHOP?
THE CITY ATTORNEY IS GOING TO BE HERE ANYWAY.
20:42:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE TALKED ABOUT INTERPRETATION OF CERTAIN
ISSUES.
THAT DEFINITELY IS ONE OF THEM.
20:42:57 >>BILL CARLSON:
OKAY.
I'M HAPPY TO LEAVE IT TILL THE CHARTER REVIEW.
THERE ARE CERTAINLY A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
20:43:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT ONE.
20:43:08 >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT'S ALL.
20:43:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NOTHING.
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
20:43:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE SAID ENOUGH.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO
TECHNICIAN 3 FOR THE CITY TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION ON TUESDAY, APRIL 12,
2022.
MR. TAYLOR IS RETIRING FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA AFTER 25
YEARS, HONORING HIS COMMITMENT TO MAKING THE CITY ENJOYABLE
FOR MOTORISTS AND PEDESTRIANS.
20:43:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.
20:43:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
OPPOSED?
MOTION GRANTED.
20:43:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
AND THE OTHER SIX I WILL SAVE FOR A SLOW
DAY.
20:43:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GOTCHA.
I HAVE ONE. A MEMO RECEIVED FROM CAROL GORDON IN REFERENCE
TO ONE OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
I SUBMITTED THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME FOR EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH
TO MR. STEVE SIMON.
SO I DON'T THINK I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON IT.
IT'S IN THE BOX.
JUST A MOMENT.
20:44:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANISCALCO, ARE YOU READY?
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE A NOMINATION FOR
EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH/COMMENDATION FOR CHRIS BEAM AN OF
ATLU.
20:45:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.
20:45:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR?
OPPOSED?
20:45:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
20:45:10 >> MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
20:45:17 >> ALL IN FAVOR?
OPPOSED?
WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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