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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL

THURSDAY, MARCH 17, 2022

9:00 A.M.



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09:05:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW COME

09:05:14 TO ORDER.

09:05:18 MARCH 17, 2022.

09:05:21 WHO HAS THE INVOCATION THIS MORNING?

09:05:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DO, SIR.

09:05:25 INSTEAD OF HAVING SOMEONE GIVE THE INVOCATION THIS

09:05:25 MORNING.

09:05:28 THE FIRST DAY BACK IN PERSON IN CHAMBERS.

09:05:33 WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE

09:05:35 ESPECIALLY FOR THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE.

09:05:36 I KNOW WE HAVE ALL BEEN FOLLOWING THIS.

09:05:40 I DIDN'T WEAR GREEN TODAY, BUT I WORE MY TIE, WHICH IS

09:05:42 BLUE AND YELLOW, TO SIGNIFY THE COLORS OF THEIR FLAG.

09:05:46 I CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH, AND I KNOW

09:05:48 THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING AND FOR THAT I ASK FOR A

09:06:01 MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH.

09:06:09 THANK YOU, SIR.

09:06:24 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

09:06:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.

09:06:29 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

09:06:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

09:06:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

09:06:33 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

09:06:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

09:06:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

09:06:38 >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

09:06:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, DEPUTY CLERK.

09:06:42 MR. SHELBY.

09:06:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY.

09:06:48 A VIEW I HAVE NOT SEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME FROM THIS

09:06:48 ANGLE.

09:06:52 WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC, AS COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID.

09:06:55 THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING IN TWO YEARS THAT THE PUBLIC

09:06:58 IS BACK IN CITY COUNCIL'S CHAMBERS.

09:07:01 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO STATE IS THAT THE PUBLIC AND THE

09:07:03 CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH, LISTEN AND VIEW

09:07:07 THIS MEETING ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640, FRONTIER CHANNEL

09:07:12 15, AND ON THE WEB AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.

09:07:17 NOW. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND IN PERSON IN CITY

09:07:21 COUNCIL CHAMBERS IN OLD CITY HALL OR PURSUANT TO

09:07:24 COUNCIL'S MOTION, PARTICIPATE IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING

09:07:27 BY USING WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS FLORIDA STATUTES

09:07:30 AS COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, THE SAME TECHNOLOGY

09:07:34 FOR VIRTUAL AND HYBRID MEETINGS THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS

09:07:36 BEEN USING SINCE THE PANDEMIC STARTED.

09:07:39 NOW THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE TO SPEAK REMOTELY DURING

09:07:45 PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE USE OF CMT, PREREGISTRATION IS

09:07:48 REQUIRED, AND THOSE INSTRUCTIONS ARE NOTICED IN THE

09:07:52 NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC MEETING, ALSO WITHIN THE AGENDA,

09:07:56 AND ON CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AT

09:08:00 TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.

09:08:02 TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY IN TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARINGS

09:08:07 USING CMT, PREREGISTRATION WAS ALSO REQUIRED TOO.

09:08:10 AND THAT IS AVAILABLE -- THE INSTRUCTIONS AGAIN ARE

09:08:13 AVAILABLE IN THE NOTICE AND IN THE AGENDA AND ON THE

09:08:15 CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE.

09:08:17 NOW PLEASE NOTE THAT IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN QUASI

09:08:21 JUDICIAL MATTERS VIA CMT.

09:08:28 SMARTPHONES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE

09:08:30 ACCESS TO VIDEO AND AUDIO WHICH IS REQUIRED.

09:08:33 THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL ASK CITY COUNCIL

09:08:36 TO WAIVE THE RULES TO ALLOW THE CONTINUED USE OF CMT.

09:08:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO ADOPT.

09:08:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE.

09:08:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

09:08:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.

09:08:44 ANY OPPOSED.

09:08:45 MOTION GRANTED.

09:08:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.

09:08:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, TOUGH AGENDA ITEMS.

09:08:55 MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, YOU WILL PUT EVERYBODY ON A TIMER,

09:08:56 INCLUDING CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.

09:08:59 WE HAVE A LIST AND WE WILL GET RIGHT TO IT.

09:09:01 MULTITUDE OF PEOPLE TO SPEAK.

09:09:03 I WILL CALL IT OUT BY NUMBER.

09:09:06 THOSE PEOPLE WILL COME UP AND SPEAK AT THAT TIME, MR.

09:09:06 SHELBY.

09:09:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.

09:09:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

09:09:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE TALKING THE APPROVAL OF THE

09:09:14 AGENDA.

09:09:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOUSEKEEPING AND APPROVAL OF THE

09:09:16 AGENDA.

09:09:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT I AM SUGGESTING, COUNCIL,

09:09:23 THAT PART OF THE HOUSEKEEPING OF THE AGENDA.

09:09:25 IF YOU CAN INCLUDE THAT.

09:09:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AS YOU WISH, SIR.

09:09:27 AS YOU WISH.

09:09:29 LET'S LOOK AT THE AGENDA.

09:09:31 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.

09:09:35 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY QUICKLY IT IS OBVIOUS --

09:09:39 WE ARE MISSING ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES TODAY, AND I WILL SAY I

09:09:44 PERSONALLY WISH JOHN DINGFELDER AND HIS WIFE WELL AND

09:09:47 HOPE THEIR NIGHTMARE ENDS SOON.

09:09:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE LOST A TRUE FRIEND UP HERE.

09:09:51 TRUE FRIEND OF THE PEOPLE.

09:09:52 AGENDA.

09:09:55 MADAM DEPUTY CLERK.

09:09:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.

09:09:58 DID YOU WANT TO DISCUSS ANY CHANGES, ADDITIONS,

09:10:02 DELETIONS, APPROVAL TO THE AGENDA?

09:10:04 YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR HOUSEKEEPING.

09:10:06 NOW IS THE TIME.

09:10:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE GOING TO -- A WALK-ON FOR THIS

09:10:12 AFTERNOON, CORRECT, SIR, MADAM CLERK?

09:10:14 >>CLERK: THAT IS CORRECT.

09:10:16 TWO WALK-ONS.

09:10:17 THEY ARE ON THE ADDENDUM.

09:10:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE FIRST WALK-ON IS THE MEMORANDUM

09:10:23 TRANSMITTING CITY COUNCIL'S APPOINTMENT POLICY AND

09:10:25 PROCEDURE GUIDELINES FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION

09:10:30 AND APPROVAL OF THE VACANCY THAT EXIST ON CITY COUNCIL.

09:10:32 DID YOU WANT TOO TAKE THAT UP AT THE END OF THE

09:10:33 MEETING?

09:10:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: END OF THE MEETING.

09:10:36 OUR BUSINESS.

09:10:37 THE END OF THE MEETING.

09:10:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.

09:10:42 TAKEN UP AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

09:10:44 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TRANSMITTED A RESOLUTION THAT HE

09:10:46 MADE A MOTION ON IN THE PAST.

09:10:49 I CAN HAVE THAT COPIED AND DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL AND

09:10:51 TAKE THAT UP LATER, MR. MIRANDA.

09:10:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.

09:10:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO. YOU HAD MADE COMMENT, AGAIN,

09:10:59 WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:11:03 AND THE MOVING -- WAS THERE A DISCUSSION -- I AM SORRY,

09:11:04 ITEM 26.

09:11:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, I PULLED THAT ITEM.

09:11:10 I AM LOOKING AT HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS FOR THE

09:11:11 POLICE CHIEF NOMINEE.

09:11:16 WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 1, WHICH WILL BE NOW NUMBER

09:11:17 3 NOW.

09:11:20 MR. VIERA, I THINK HE IS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO

09:11:21 SCRATCH NUMBER 2.

09:11:23 MOVE NUMBER 3 UP TO NUMBER 1.

09:11:25 AND THEN GO TO THE POLICE CHIEF.

09:11:28 AND AS WE HEAR THE POLICE CHIEF, WE WILL THEN TAKE

09:11:29 PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:11:32 DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, I HAVE A LIST THAT KEEPS COMING

09:11:35 THAT I WILL GO DOWN THE LIST ONE THROUGH WHATEVER UNTIL WE

09:11:36 STOP.

09:11:39 AFTER THAT, WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 26 OR ANY

09:11:43 RECOMMENDATIONS RELATING TO THE POLICE CHIEF.

09:11:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED "THE RULES

09:11:47 OF PROCEDURE," AND I AM NOT QUESTIONING ANYTHING YOU

09:11:50 SAID, BUT I WISH THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL LOOK --

09:11:53 THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT RULES AND

09:11:56 PROCEDURES TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS IN CORRECT ORDER.

09:11:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AS YOU WISH, SIR.

09:12:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL CERTAINLY DO THAT.

09:12:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK IT WAS SUBMITTED IN 2019.

09:12:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE RULES --

09:12:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- OF PROCEDURE.

09:12:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARDS TO --

09:12:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE PROCESS WE ARE GOING THROUGH

09:12:13 TODAY.

09:12:13 PROCESS.

09:12:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE SECTION OF

09:12:17 THE CHART?

09:12:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, REFERRING TO JUST THE RULES.

09:12:21 THE LITTLE THING HERE.

09:12:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.

09:12:24 DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

09:12:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

09:12:29 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW WHATEVER RULES WE

09:12:34 MADE -- ADOPTED BACK MARCH 21, 2019, SIR.

09:12:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE.

09:12:39 MY UNDERSTANDING IS BASED ON MY ANALYSIS, I BELIEVE

09:12:40 YOU ARE.

09:12:44 AND ALSO MISS ZELMAN AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO

09:12:48 DISCUSS AT LEAST THE PROCEDURES WITH REGARD TO ITEM 26.

09:12:51 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SIR.

09:12:52 PLEASE DO RAISE THEM.

09:12:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I FOUND THIS

09:12:58 LOOKING FOR SOMETHING ELSE FOR CHARLIE CRIST AND FELL

09:13:01 OUT OF THIS THING I HAVE IN MY POCKET HERE.

09:13:03 AND I JUST READ IT LAST NIGHT.

09:13:05 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS FOLLOWED.

09:13:09 I AM NOT QUESTIONING ANYTHING.

09:13:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MIRANDA RAISES AN EXCELLENT

09:13:12 POINT.

09:13:16 ANY TIME WITH A QUESTION OF THE PROCEDURE, CORRECT

09:13:19 PROCESS UNDER ROBERTS RULE OF ORDER IS TO MAKE A POINT

09:13:22 OF ORDER AND PRESENT THAT TO THE CHAIR.

09:13:25 AND WE CAN RESOLVE THE ISSUE.

09:13:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON

09:13:29 MOVING 26 UP?

09:13:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL,

09:13:33 THE TIME TO DO THAT IS DURING THE APPROVAL OF THE

09:13:36 AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM.

09:13:40 SO IF THERE IS ANY OBJECTION TO THAT, THE TIME TO RAISE

09:13:43 THAT BY COUNCIL IS NOW.

09:13:44 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I SIR?

09:13:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

09:13:47 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO BE CLEAR WHAT WE ARE DOING

09:13:48 HERE.

09:13:51 ARE WE LOOKING TO HAVING THE PRESENTATION DONE FIRST,

09:13:53 THEN PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN COUNCIL COMMENTS.

09:13:55 IS THAT WHAT WE ARE VOTING FOR?

09:13:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 26 WILL BE PULLED TO VOTE ON 26.

09:14:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE AGAIN, I AM NOT QUESTIONING

09:14:04 ONE -- ESPECIALLY THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY ON THE

09:14:08 RULES OF PROCEDURES THAT SAYS THE PUBLIC SPEAKS FIRST

09:14:11 AND THEN WE DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

09:14:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES --

09:14:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: UNDER -- LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND

09:14:16 IT.

09:14:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MEAN, I WAS TRYING TO DO IT THE

09:14:21 EASY WAY, BUT IF YOU PREFER --

09:14:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT QUESTIONING.

09:14:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO GET SOME KIND OF ORDER.

09:14:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT QUESTIONING YOU AT ALL,

09:14:28 SIR.

09:14:30 I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF

09:14:36 EVERYTHING -- UNDER RULE 3 -- UNDER RULE 3-B-2.

09:14:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 3-B-2.

09:14:43 THE ORDER OF BUSINESS, APPROVAL AND PUBLIC COMMENT,

09:14:48 CEREMONIAL AND WE CAN ASK -- CEREMONIAL ITEMS ARE

09:14:51 NORMALLY PLACED ON THE AGENDA WHICH IS TRADITIONALLY

09:14:52 BEEN THAT.

09:14:57 IT IS NOT IN YOUR -- THESE FRULS 2019, BUT HISTORICALLY

09:15:00 IT HAS BEEN UNDER THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

09:15:04 IF COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS TO HEAR THE PUBLIC FIRST, THEN

09:15:07 YOU CAN MOVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT UP TO ABOVE THE

09:15:10 CEREMONIALS, BUT CUSTOMARILY THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE.

09:15:13 I SHOULD POINT OUT, COUNCIL, WHAT --

09:15:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT MY PLEASURE, IT IS WHATEVER THE

09:15:18 RULES SAY.

09:15:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND, SIR.

09:15:27 CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND OR PRESENTATIONS ARE NOT ON

09:15:30 THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF THE TRANSACTION OF BUSINESS.

09:15:32 IT IS PLACED FIRST ON THE AGENDA.

09:15:37 THERE IS NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON ITEMS 1, 2 OR 3.

09:15:42 AND PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTES, THAT BEFORE A VOTE CAN

09:15:45 BE TAKEN, THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO

09:15:46 SPEAK.

09:15:50 BEFORE THE COUNCIL TAKES FINAL ACTION ON SOMETHING.

09:15:58 SO THAT IS A RULE FROM.

09:16:02 I FORGOT THE YEAR BUT TOWARD THE END OF THE LAST DECADE

09:16:06 AN ADJUSTMENT OF THE COUNCIL'S RULES SECTION AND CHAPTER

09:16:08 286 TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

09:16:10 SPEAK BEFORE A VOTE IS TAKEN, AND THIS IS WHY

09:16:14 HISTORICALLY WE TAKE NO ACTION ON CEREMONIAL ACTIONS

09:16:27 UNTIL THE PUBLIC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

09:16:31 IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THEM YOU CAN DO THAT IN THE ORDER

09:16:33 OF THE AGENDA.

09:16:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

09:16:38 >>BILL CARLSON: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CEREMONIAL VERSUS

09:16:43 PUBLIC COMMENT OR TALKING OF THE ORDER OF THE POLICE

09:16:45 CHIEF NOMINEE SPEAKING BEFORE.

09:16:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CARLSON, THE ONLY THING I AM

09:16:50 TELLING YOU THIS CAME INTO MY HANDS FROM MY OWN HOUSE

09:16:53 THAT DIDN'T KNOW I HAD, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

09:16:56 UNDER THESE RULES THAT WERE ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION 246

09:17:02 FROM 2019, IT SAYS THE MEETINGS, RULE 3 AND GOES TO

09:17:05 B-2, THE FOLLOWING ORDER SHOULD BE CONCERNED IN A

09:17:07 TRANSACTION OF BUSINESS IN A REGULAR MEETING,

09:17:10 INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WAS DONE.

09:17:12 ROLL CALL AND THE MINUTES WERE DONE.

09:17:13 APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

09:17:17 PUBLIC COMMENT FOR MATTERS OTHER THAN PUBLIC HEARING.

09:17:19 THEN REQUEST FOR THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION AND

09:17:20 GOES ON AND ON.

09:17:24 ALL I AM SAYING I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES IN CASE

09:17:29 ANYONE IS DISSATISFIED, WE CAN ADDRESS IT WITH THE

09:17:29 RULE.

09:17:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE DISSATISFIED AND GO THE WAY IT

09:17:33 GOES.

09:17:37 I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO BE DISSATISFIED, BUT I AM TRYING

09:17:40 TO MAKE IT EASIER TO HAVE, NUMBER ONE, THE PUBLIC, AND

09:17:43 VOTE AND FOLLOW THE WAY WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE IT.

09:17:45 WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN?

09:17:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT MINE.

09:17:49 I WANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES OF PROCEDURES.

09:17:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA.

09:17:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

09:17:55 IF I MAY, UNIQUE PART OF THE PRESENTATION OF NUMBER ONE

09:17:57 IS RELATED TO A VOTE ON 26.

09:17:59 SO THERE IS AN ARGUMENT THEY SHOULD GO TOGETHER.

09:18:02 ANOTHER ISSUE MAY VERY WELL BE THE PRESENTATION MAY

09:18:05 TAKE LONGER, AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT BY MAKING IT

09:18:09 LONGER THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT TO GET --

09:18:11 OR MOVE BEFORE THE VOTE ULTIMATELY.

09:18:17 JUST ANOTHER CONSIDERATION.

09:18:21 AGAIN, VOTE ON IT AND SEE IF IT MOVES FORWARD.

09:18:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I ALWAYS WOULD WANT PUBLIC COMMENT

09:18:25 FIRST.

09:18:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY?

09:18:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT WE WILL DO, GENTLEMEN?

09:18:31 CONTINUE WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

09:18:33 GO AS THE AGENDA IS WRITTEN.

09:18:36 IT IS EASIER FOR ME.

09:18:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CLARIFICATION.

09:18:41 SO IS IT THE CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES WILL THEN MOVE TO

09:18:43 AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT, IS THAT CORRECT?

09:18:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, WE WILL GO BY THE AGENDA SINCE

09:18:49 PEOPLE SAID WE WILL GO BY THE AGENDA AND TAKE PUBLIC

09:18:51 COMMENT.

09:18:55 SO, I WAS TRYING MAKE IT A LITTLE SIMPLIFIED.

09:18:58 BUT MAKING SURE THE RULES ARE IN PLACE AND GO AHEAD AND

09:19:04 DO CEREMONIALS, NUMBER ONE WITH MISS O'CONNOR.

09:19:07 AND MR. VIERA, WHATEVER SCRATCH HE HAS AND THEN NUMBER

09:19:08 3, SIR.

09:19:10 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.

09:19:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

09:19:16 >>LUIS VIERA: I TOLD THE GENTLEMAN FROM NUMBER 3 THAT

09:19:20 HE COULD BE NUMBER 1, VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA,

09:19:22 EIGHT MINUTES.

09:19:24 AGAIN, I LEAVE IT TO YOU, SIR.

09:19:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DECISION HAS BEEN MADE.

09:19:27 I AM GOING TO MAKE A DECISION.

09:19:29 POINT-BLANK.

09:19:34 NUMBER 3.

09:19:38 ANY OBJECTION OF MOVING NUMBER 3 TO NUMBER 1.

09:19:39 >> SAY THAT AGAIN?

09:19:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 3 TO NUMBER 1.

09:19:45 MR. VIERA, YOU WILL MAKE A MOTION TO SCRATCH NUMBER 2.

09:19:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

09:19:50 I MAKE THE MOTION THAT THE ABE BROWN MINISTRIES

09:19:55 RETURNING CITIZENS ORDINANCE BE REMOVED UNTIL APRIL 21,

09:19:55 2022.

09:19:57 BOTH THE PRESENTATION OF THE RETURNING CITIZENS AND THE

09:19:59 ORDINANCE, IF I MAY.

09:20:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.

09:20:02 ALL IN FAVOR.

09:20:02 OPPOSED.

09:20:04 MOTION GRANTED.

09:20:06 AND TWO WAS TAKEN CARE OF.

09:20:09 THREE WILL GO TO NUMBER ONE AND ONE WILL GO TO NUMBER

09:20:09 THREE.

09:20:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THE PUBLIC IS CLEAR, YOU MENTIONED

09:20:13 ITEM 26.

09:20:15 WHEN DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT UP?

09:20:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT UP AFTER

09:20:19 PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:20:22 ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT, GENTLEMEN?

09:20:23 ANY OBJECTIONS?

09:20:27 26 WAS PULLED WILL BE TAKEN UP AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT,

09:20:27 SIR.

09:20:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDERSTOOD.

09:20:32 I WANT TO REFER TO THE COUNCIL'S RULES, RULE 4-K.

09:20:36 RULE 4-K THAT THE CHAIR SHOULD DECIDE ALL QUESTIONS OF

09:20:39 PROCEDURE AND ORDER AND THE DECISION SHALL STAND UNLESS

09:20:43 REVERSED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.

09:20:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY FOR THE

09:20:46 CLARIFICATION.

09:20:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH RESULT OF THAT, ANYTHING ELSE ON

09:20:51 THE AGENDA THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED.

09:20:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.

09:20:56 >>BILL CARLSON: ITEM NUMBER 28.

09:20:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 20?

09:20:59 >>BILL CARLSON: 28.

09:21:02 I WANT TO PULL IT FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.

09:21:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO HAS SECONDED THAT.

09:21:06 OPPOSED, MOTION GRANTED.

09:21:08 28 HAD GO --

09:21:11 >>BILL CARLSON: 29 I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, AND WE

09:21:12 DON'T NEED TO PULL IT.

09:21:16 46 I WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR A SEPARATE VOTE ALSO,

09:21:16 PLEASE.

09:21:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 46, SEPARATE VOTE.

09:21:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANY OTHER CHANGES, DELETIONS,

09:21:29 COUNCIL?

09:21:30 AS AMENDED.

09:21:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE IT AS AMENDED.

09:21:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO HAS MOVED IT.

09:21:35 SECOND BY MR. VIERA.

09:21:36 ALL IN FAVOR.

09:21:37 OPPOSED.

09:21:38 MOTION GRANTED.

09:21:41 WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, GENTLEMEN.

09:21:44 MR. VIERA, YOU ARE UP, SIR.

09:21:46 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

09:21:55 I APPRECIATE IT.

09:21:58 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

09:22:03 IT IS VERY GLAD TO BE BACK AND SEE EVERYBODY TODAY.

09:22:05 A MOVIE BY THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA.

09:22:06 GO AHEAD.

09:26:06 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

09:26:09 I HAVE WITH ME HERE FOR A VERY BRIEF DISCUSSION HERE

09:26:14 TODAY ABOUT TWO MINUTES OR SO BECAUSE I KNOW OUR TIME

09:26:15 IS PRESSED TODAY.

09:26:18 COLONEL RON ROOK WHO IS HERE, THE WONDERFUL GENTLEMAN

09:26:20 OVER THERE ON THAT MOTORCYCLE.

09:26:28 WE HAVE AVI ZAMICHAS AND MICHAEL DELL, FORMER PRESIDENT

09:26:30 OF VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA.

09:26:32 JIM FLETCHER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE AND HAD A BROKEN

09:26:34 CAR.

09:26:35 GOD BLESS HIM.

09:26:38 GOLD STAR SISTER WHOSE BROTHER WAS UP IN THAT VIDEO

09:26:43 PAULA RODRIGUEZ, VICKY CARTER, AND OTHERS HERE

09:26:47 IN SUPPORT, AND I WANTED COLONEL ROOK TO COME UP AND

09:26:49 TALK ABOUT AN EVENT THAT HOPE EVERYBODY IN THE

09:26:53 COMMUNION TO COME AND START THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF

09:26:54 AMERICA.

09:26:59 >> YES, SATURDAY 26TH OF MARCH AT 9:00, THE VIETNAM

09:27:08 VETERANS OF AMERICA ARE PRESENTING A MEMORIAL TO THAT

09:27:11 PARK, VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK.

09:27:16 AT 10:00, WE ARE DOING OUR ANNUAL WELCOME HOME VIETNAM

09:27:19 VETERANS CELEBRATION.

09:27:25 SO, PLEASE PASS TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW WHO

09:27:30 ARE VIETNAM VETERANS, AND YOU COME OUT BECAUSE AS YOU

09:27:33 KNOW, WE WERE NOT WELCOMED BACK HOME WHEN WE CAME BACK

09:27:35 FROM VIETNAM.

09:27:40 SO COME OUT AND WELCOME US NOW.

09:27:41 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

09:27:44 IF YOU MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF IT DOESN'T BREAK THE

09:27:47 QUORUM, LET'S GIVE OUR VIETNAM VETERANS A HAND.

09:27:47 [APPLAUSE]

09:27:58 THANK YOU.

09:28:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.

09:28:05 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO, FIRST OF ALL, THANK

09:28:08 COUNCILMEMBER VIERA FOR BRINGING YOU HERE.

09:28:10 AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SERVICE AND THE

09:28:12 VIETNAM VETERANS FOR YOUR SERVICE.

09:28:16 I GREW UP IN THE VIETNAM WAR WATCHING ON TV, AND I CAN'T

09:28:18 IMAGINE WHAT YOU ALL WENT THROUGH AND I THANK YOU SO

09:28:19 MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.

09:28:24 I -- SOME FOLKS KNOW I LIVED IN SINGAPORE FIVE YEARS,

09:28:28 WHATEVER FEEDBACK YOU GOT, SINGAPORE THEY VERY MUCH

09:28:29 APPRECIATED YOU ALL.

09:28:32 IF YOU HAD NOT STOPPED WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN VIETNAM,

09:28:39 IT WOULD HAVE GONE TO MALAYSIA AND SINGAPORE.

09:28:42 THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.

09:28:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.

09:28:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST AND FOREMOST, WELCOME HOME.

09:28:50 I HAVE A DEEP RESPECT FOR VIETNAM VETERANS, FOR THE

09:28:53 SACRIFICE YOU MADE FOR THIS COUNTRY WHETHER YOU WERE

09:28:55 DRAFTED OR SIGNED UP.

09:28:57 YOU ARE HEROES.

09:28:58 AND I WANT TO YOU KNOW THAT.

09:29:01 I HAD THE HONOR OF MEETING SO MANY VIETNAM VETERANS

09:29:02 OVER THE YEARS.

09:29:05 TWO YEARS AGO, I WAS WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA AND HAD THE

09:29:11 HONOR OF SITTING NEXT TO ROGER DONLON AND HIS WIFE AND

09:29:18 THE FIRST MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENT FROM 1964 AND '65.

09:29:20 AND IN A ROOM WITH SO MANY HEROES.

09:29:22 WHENEVER I GO TO WASHINGTON D.C. I MAKE A POINT TO

09:29:24 VISIT THE WALL.

09:29:26 IT IS ESPECIALLY POWERFUL AT NIGHT.

09:29:30 I LEFT MY HOTEL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO GO LOOK

09:29:33 AT THE LINCOLN MEMORIAL AND I WALKED TO THE WALL.

09:29:37 SEEING THOSE NAMES, 58,000-PLUS NAMES AND SO MANY THAT

09:29:38 CAME FROM THIS AREA.

09:29:42 FOR THOSE WHO KNOW ME, MY FRIENDS AND WHATNOT, I LIKE

09:29:44 TO VISIT CEMETERIES ESPECIALLY HERE IN THE CITY OF

09:29:48 TAMPA WHERE MY GRANDPARENTS ARE BURIED.

09:29:53 THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY VIETNAM VETERAN SOLDIERS THOSE

09:29:57 WHO DIED AT 18, 19, 20 YEARS OLD.

09:30:01 I MAKE A POINT TO LEAVE A FLAG AT THEIR GRAVE SITE TO

09:30:06 LET THEM KNOW THEY ARE NOT ONLY APPRECIATED BY FAMILY

09:30:08 AND FRIENDS BUT THE NEW GENERATION, PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T

09:30:12 KNOW THEM, AND KNOW THAT THEY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.

09:30:14 THANK YOU, AND AN HONOR YOU ARE HERE WITH US TODAY.

09:30:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.

09:30:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU.

09:30:27 THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF OUR MILITARY FORCE WHO

09:30:28 SERVED IN THE USELESS WAR.

09:30:33 BECAUSE OF YOUR BRAVERY AND OTHERS LIKE YOU THAT KNEW

09:30:36 THE DUTY THEY HAD TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY, I

09:30:39 SAY THANK YOU FOR MY FREEDOMS.

09:30:41 THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

09:30:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR.

09:30:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FIRST OF ALL, MY APOLOGIES THAT I

09:30:48 CANNOT BE THERE SATURDAY AT 9:00.

09:30:55 I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT WITH A THING CALLED J-O-B, JOB.

09:30:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:30:59 YOU LOOK BACK AT HISTORY AND REALIZE THAT DEMOCRACY IS

09:31:00 NOT FREE.

09:31:02 JUST COMPARE WHAT WE HERE IN AMERICA HAVE AND COMPARE

09:31:05 IT WITH ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

09:31:09 WE TAKE A LOT OF THINGS FOR GRANTED, BUT WE FORGET THE

09:31:13 PRICE WE PAID FOR HAVING THAT RIGHT TO SPEAK, TO HAVE A

09:31:13 DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.

09:31:16 WHEN YOU LOOK AT RIGHT NOW WHEN SOMEBODY IN THE NEWS

09:31:20 MEDIA AND ANOTHER COUNTRY PUTS UP A SIGN AND GETS

09:31:22 HAULED YOU OFF TO JAIL.

09:31:26 THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN HERE THAT OFTEN, IF NOT AT ALL.

09:31:28 IT SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING.

09:31:31 THANK YOU FOR THE SACRIFICES THAT YOUR GENERATION MADE.

09:31:34 IT IS NOT ONLY THOSE WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES, BUT THE

09:31:37 LIVES THAT WERE HOME THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT LIFE TO

09:31:41 LIVE WITHOUT THOSE MEN AND WOMEN WHO PERISHED.

09:31:45 THOSE ARE THE CONSOLING FACTOR OF DEMOCRACY.

09:31:47 IT IS NOT FREE.

09:31:48 IT IS VERY COSTLY.

09:31:51 I NEVER FORGET I WAS IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY NOT TOO LONG

09:31:52 AGO FIVE YEARS AGO.

09:31:53 I WAS IN A CAB.

09:31:55 AND A MAN ASKED ME HOW IS AMERICA.

09:31:57 I SAID WE ARE GOING THROUGH A LITTLE BUMP IN THE ROAD.

09:32:01 HE SAID YOUR HUMP IN THE ROAD WILL GET BETTER, BUT THE

09:32:02 HUMP THAT IS HERE WILL GET WORSE.

09:32:05 THOSE WORDS WERE JUST CHILLING TO ME AND I WANT TO

09:32:09 THANK YOU EACH AND OVER ONE OF YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE

09:32:09 DONE.

09:32:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:32:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, GENTLEMEN, WE THANK YOU FOR

09:32:13 YOUR SERVICE, OF COURSE.

09:32:18 AS YOU LOOK AT THE VIDEO, I SEE GENTLEMEN -- TWO OR

09:32:20 THREE THINK THAT KNOW PERSONALLY.

09:32:23 MR. VIERA, WE ALSO ARE DELIGHTED WHEN YOU BRING

09:32:29 HISTORICAL DATA AND INFORMATION TO IN COUNCIL.

09:32:35 I AM GLAD YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THIS WITH OUR NEW TIME

09:32:38 SLOTS, THIS WAS VALUABLE TO SEE AND WATCH THESE

09:32:40 GENTLEMEN AND JUST TO BE ABLE TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW

09:32:42 THAT WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE,

09:32:45 GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE FOR THIS COUNTRY.

09:32:47 GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.

09:32:49 >> THANK YOU.

09:32:51 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.

09:32:52 >> I WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT VIETNAM VETERANS

09:32:56 ARE DYING AT THE RATE OF 600 A DAY.

09:33:01 AND ALSO, SOME OF THOSE VETERANS FROM VIETNAM THAT WERE

09:33:05 IN THAT FILM HAVE DIED OF AGENT ORANGE.

09:33:05 THANK YOU.

09:33:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

09:33:09 THANK YOU, MR. VIERA.

09:33:11 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:33:16 APPRECIATE IT.

09:33:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA IS WALKING OUT TO TAKE HIS

09:33:22 PHOTO SHOT AND WILL BE BACK SHORTLY.

09:33:28 FOLLOWING THE AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 2 WAS REMOVED.

09:33:30 WE HEARD FROM ITEM NUMBER 3.

09:33:35 NOW WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 1.

09:33:40 MR. BENNETT?

09:33:41 >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN.

09:33:43 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

09:33:45 JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.

09:33:47 GOOD MORNING TO THE COMMUNITY.

09:33:50 SO NICE TO SEE US BACK IN CHAMBERS WITH FRIENDS AND

09:33:52 COLLEAGUES THAT SERVED IN FIRST RESPONDER ROLES AND

09:33:55 PEOPLE HERE CELEBRATING THEIR BIRTHDAY.

09:33:57 WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT.

09:33:59 CHAIRMAN, IF IT IS THE WILL AND THE PLEASURE OF

09:34:02 COUNCIL, WE ARE WILLING TO DEFER TO PUBLIC COMMENT

09:34:04 UNTIL ITEM 26.

09:34:07 AND THEN THAT WAY WE DON'T TIE UP TIME WITH TWO

09:34:09 PRESENTATIONS, ONE FOR THAT AND ONE FOR 26.

09:34:12 IF THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.

09:34:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.

09:34:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

09:34:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION AND SECOND.

09:34:17 ALL IN FAVOR.

09:34:18 OPPOSED.

09:34:18 MOTION GRANTED.

09:34:20 WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:34:24 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, SIR.

09:34:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER ONE.

09:34:28 WE HAVE A LIST HERE OF NUMBERED FOLKS TO SPEAK -- I AM

09:34:32 SORRY, MADAM DEPUTY CLERK WANTS TO GO TO VIRTUAL FIRST.

09:34:34 WE WILL GO TO VIRTUAL CLERK.

09:34:36 THAT IS WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO.

09:34:37 SHE IS IN CHARGE.

09:34:40 >>CLERK: THANK YOU, THE FIRST SPEAKER IS MICHAEL

09:34:44 RANDOLPH, AND IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

09:34:45 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

09:34:46 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:34:51 MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH, WEST TAMPA.

09:34:59 LAST YEAR, 50% OF FOLKS ARRESTED WERE ARRESTED FOR

09:34:59 GUNS.

09:35:01 VIOLENT CRIME UP 30% IN OUR CITY.

09:35:06 PEOPLE ARE DYING AT A RATE THAT IS RIDICULOUS.

09:35:11 TALKING OF STRATEGY OF HOW WE TURN THE AGENDA AROUND.

09:35:13 I REQUEST THAT SHE IS OPEN TO THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE TO

09:35:17 LOOK AT A NEW WAY TO DEAL WITH VIOLENCE.

09:35:18 I AM NOT ABOUT ORGANIZATION.

09:35:20 I AM NOT ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE WANT.

09:35:24 I AM ABOUT SOLUTIONS.

09:35:28 TO LOOK AT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE, I SHARED WITH HER A

09:35:30 DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT

09:35:31 DOES WORK.

09:35:37 I ALSO SHARED WITH HER ABOUT A NEW APPROACH TO POLICING

09:35:39 TO INCREASE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN COMMUNITY.

09:35:44 UNDER THIS MODEL, OFFICERS WILL HAVE RESOURCE ARE, FOR

09:35:52 EXAMPLE, FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE RESOURCES AND ALL THAT

09:35:54 STUFF WILL BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY STRATEGY.

09:35:57 I ALSO SPOKE TO NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.

09:36:00 BECAUSE I DON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT -- I WENT TO THE

09:36:01 NEIGHBORHOOD IN WEST.

09:36:06 TIME IN SUPPORT OF THE CHIEF BECAUSE GOING TO LOOK AT

09:36:09 IT IN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND LOOK AT THIS IN A

09:36:11 PERSPECTIVE OF NEW EYES.

09:36:15 FOR EXAMPLE, CAN HE CAN'T CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME OL'

09:36:18 SAME OL' AND EXPECT THE SAME RESULTS.

09:36:21 I SUPPORT THE APPOINTMENT BECAUSE NOW WE CAN LOOK AT

09:36:27 WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND THE COUNTRY AND SO WE CAN STOP

09:36:28 THE VIOLENCE.

09:36:29 THANK YOU.

09:36:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

09:36:34 >>CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER, BISHOP MICHELLE PATTY.

09:36:36 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

09:36:40 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

09:36:42 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:36:45 I AM BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.

09:36:47 I AM ACTUALLY OUT OF TOWN, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY

09:36:49 IMPORTANT TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER.

09:36:52 28 YEARS AGO, CHIEF MARY O'CONNOR WAS GIVEN A SECOND

09:36:52 CHANCE.

09:36:56 SHE USED THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AND PROTECT THE CITY

09:37:00 RISING -- RISING THROUGH THE RANKS TO RETIRE AS

09:37:02 ASSISTANT CHIEF.

09:37:03 ONE STEP FROM BEING THE CHIEF.

09:37:06 TAMPA IS UNIQUE.

09:37:10 OUR MAYOR, MAYOR JANE CASTOR SERVED AS CHIEF.

09:37:14 MAYOR JANE CASTOR KNOW WHAT IS WE NEED TO MOVE THIS

09:37:17 COMMUNITY FORWARD AND THAT IS CHIEF O'CONNOR.

09:37:21 CHIEF O'CONNOR HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, FBI EXPERIENCE.

09:37:23 SHE HAS BEEN IN OTHER CITIES AND BEING AROUND THE

09:37:24 COUNTRY.

09:37:28 SO WITH CHIEF O'CONNOR, WE BRING AN UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE.

09:37:31 SHE IS ABLE TO PROCESS AND DO THINGS ON A DIFFERENT

09:37:32 LEVEL.

09:37:36 SO THAT'S WHY I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF CHIEF MARY

09:37:37 O'CONNOR.

09:37:40 WE ASKED THAT FELONS BE GIVEN A SECOND CHANCE.

09:37:42 AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY.

09:37:46 BECAUSE WHEN A SECOND CHANCE, LOOK WHAT A PERSON CAN

09:37:47 DO.

09:37:48 THEY CAN SOAR TO THE TOP.

09:37:52 WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHEN THINGS HAVE GONE

09:37:55 WRONG YEARS AND YEARS AGO, 28 YEARS AGO, THAT IS LONG

09:37:56 ENOUGH.

09:38:00 BUT PEOPLE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THERE IS

09:38:02 CHILDREN KILLING CHILDREN IN THE STREETS OF TAMPA.

09:38:04 BLOOD IS FLOWING IN THE STREETS.

09:38:07 [GAVEL SOUNDING]

09:38:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: POINT OF ORDER.

09:38:11 >> WE NEED SOMEONE TO TAKE CHARGE.

09:38:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME SAY SOMETHING.

09:38:17 BEFORE OR AGAINST THE NOMINEE, WE WILL HAVE SILENCE IN

09:38:18 THIS CHAMBERS.

09:38:21 WHEN YOUR CHANCE TO SPEAK, YOU WILL SPEAK.

09:38:23 YOU WILL GIVE YOUR COMMENT AND RESPECT EVERYONE ELSE.

09:38:27 IF YOU DO NOT, I WILL HAVE YOU REMOVED BY MR. TALLY,

09:38:28 OUR OFFICER OF THE ROOM.

09:38:30 AM I CLEAR, MR. TALLY?

09:38:31 >> YES.

09:38:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, WE WILL PROCEED.

09:38:42 >>CLERK: THANK YOU, CHAIR.

09:38:45 SPEAKER IS JEAN STROHMEYER.

09:38:47 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

09:38:47 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

09:38:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, WE CAN.

09:38:54 >> HELLO, EVERYBODY, JEAN STROHMEYER HERE TODAY.

09:38:57 FIRST, I WANT TO JUST SAY ABOUT DINGFELDER ISSUE.

09:38:59 I THINK THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED.

09:39:05 AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT WAS A LOADED EVENT

09:39:09 FOR MR. DINGFELDER, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

09:39:10 IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN LIKE THAT.

09:39:14 AND I BELIEVE THE GOOD -- THE PEOPLE BEHIND THAT JUST

09:39:16 DID DO THAT FOR POLITICAL REASONS TO GET HIS VOTE

09:39:18 SILENCED.

09:39:21 AND THEY SUCCEEDED IN THAT BATTLE BUT NOT IN THE WAR,

09:39:24 BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF LITTLE SOLDIERS OUT HERE

09:39:26 THAT ARE FIGHTING FOR OUR CITY.

09:39:29 SO BACK TO THE AGENDA.

09:39:32 A LOT OF THE AGENDA, I SEE A BUNCH OF THESE CONTRACTS

09:39:32 AND VOTES.

09:39:36 I -- WE HAVE FOUND THAT SOME OF THESE CONTRACTS AND

09:39:40 BIDS SHOW UP IN LITTLE NEWSPAPER THAT NOBODY EVER HEARD

09:39:44 OF AND OTHERS SHOW UP IN THE BIG NEWSPAPER.

09:39:46 THERE ARE SOME CONTRACTS THAT NEVER GET A CHANCE TO

09:39:48 MAKE A BID TO THE CITY.

09:39:51 SO ALL THESE PUBLICATIONS FOR THE BIDS ON CONTRACTS

09:39:55 NEED TO BE UP FRONT FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE.

09:39:57 EVERYBODY SHOULD GET A CHANCE TO BID ON IT.

09:40:00 AS FAR AS THE NEW POLICE CHIEF, I DON'T KNOW HER.

09:40:05 BUT JUST -- TOO MANY THINGS THAT DIDN'T SEEM RIGHT TO A

09:40:05 LOT OF PEOPLE.

09:40:08 YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE NEWSPAPER.

09:40:09 THEY DIDN'T FEEL THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING.

09:40:12 I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE VETTED A LITTLE BIT MORE.

09:40:15 THE 28 ON THE AGENDA, I DON'T KNOW IF I WILL GET TO

09:40:18 SPEAK ON THAT LATER BUT BLOOMBERG CONSULTING IS A

09:40:23 VERY BIASED CONSULTING FIRM OUT OF NEW YORK.

09:40:25 THEY ARE OUT OF DELAWARE.

09:40:29 AND BLOOMBERG THE BILLIONAIRE THAT WE WANT TO NOW RUN

09:40:30 OUR CITY BEHIND THE SCENES.

09:40:33 WE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

09:40:36 32, LICENSE PLATE READERS.

09:40:38 Y'ALL KEEP BRINGING THE BIG BROTHER TO THE CITY OF

09:40:39 TAMPA.

09:40:40 NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.

09:40:44 BACK TO THE BLOOMBERG, WE NEED TO SEPARATE THE DUTIES,

09:40:47 THE MAYOR HAS A LOT OF POWER AND MORE LIKE A

09:40:49 DICTATORSHIP LIKE WE ARE SEEING.

09:40:51 WE NEED THE CITY COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB AND

09:40:54 SEPARATE THE POWERS SO EVERYBODY HAS A VOICE.

09:40:58 35 AND 36, YOU HAVE GTTE.

09:41:00 LEASING FROM GTE.

09:41:02 THE CITY OF TAMPA OWNS THE LOT OR PROPERTY.

09:41:04 I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF MONEY WE ARE SPENDING ON

09:41:08 THAT, BUT HOPE -- IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO.

09:41:11 NUMBER 62, THE TENANT'S BILL OF RIGHTS.

09:41:13 AGAIN, I THINK THAT IS A BAD IDEA BECAUSE IT WILL PUT

09:41:17 OTHER PEOPLE AT RISK OF HAVING TO ANSWER TO GOVERNMENT

09:41:21 RATHER THAN THEIR OWN PRIVATE CONTRACT BETWEEN TWO

09:41:21 INDIVIDUALS.

09:41:25 47 AND 48, THERE IS A LOT OF PAYOUTS THAT GO INTO THE

09:41:28 YEAR 2030 HERE.

09:41:32 SO WE WILL BURDEN OUR FUTURE WITH DEBT UP TO THE YEAR

09:41:34 2030.

09:41:35 IT LOOKED BAD TO ME.

09:41:37 CAN YOU ALL LOOK INTO THOSE.

09:41:40 63, I DON'T KNOW IF I AM ALLOWED TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT

09:41:44 ONE, BUT VOTE NO ON THAT PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT

09:41:45 AMENDMENT.

09:41:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN, THAT IS DURING THE PUBLIC

09:41:50 HEARING IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THAT, YOU HAVE THAT

09:41:52 OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WISH.

09:41:52 >> THANK YOU.

09:41:56 THOSE THE THINGS, PLEASE.

09:41:58 BLOCK EVERYTHING AND I APPRECIATE IT.

09:41:59 HAVE A GREAT DAY.

09:42:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, JEAN.

09:42:05 >>CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER IS LORRAINE PERINO.

09:42:07 IF YOU HEAR ME, UNMUTE YOURSELF.

09:42:12 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

09:42:17 >> GOOD MORNING, I AM LORRAINE PERINO, I WAS BORN AT

09:42:19 THE HOSPITAL IN BAYSHORE.

09:42:22 I AM A THIRD GENERATION HISPANIC UNTIL RECENTLY WAS

09:42:24 PROUD OF MY CITY.

09:42:27 HISPANICS COMPRISE 25% OF POPULATION.

09:42:33 AND JANE CASTOR HAS ZERO LEVEL HISPANICS IN MANAGEMENT.

09:42:35 IT SHOWS GREAT DISRESPECT TO THEM.

09:42:43 PROMOTING REUBEN DELGADO, A CAREER HISPANIC, TO POLICE

09:42:46 CHIEF WAS A WAY TO HELP THIS INJUSTICE.

09:42:48 SHE DIDN'T.

09:42:51 DELGADO WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE.

09:42:54 HE HAD THE SUPPORT OF THE ENTIRE HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND

09:42:55 OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

09:43:01 CASTOR SHOULD HAVE IN GOOD FAITH HELP THE DEFICIT OF

09:43:07 HISPANICS HER IN ADMINISTRATION.

09:43:13 LED A CERTIFICATION LAPSE AND UNQUALIFIED TO RUN THE

09:43:13 POLICE DEPARTMENT.

09:43:15 CONTENTIOUS PASS.

09:43:18 ARREST WITH DUI AND ASSAULT OF A POLICE OFFICER FOR

09:43:20 WHICH SHE WAS FIRED.

09:43:23 AND CREATED A POLICY SO RACIALLY UNFAIR THAT WAS CITED

09:43:25 BY THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

09:43:32 THIS LOSE, LOSE, LOSE WHO JANE CASTOR SELECTED TO LEAD

09:43:37 THE TAMPA'S FINEST.

09:43:39 ALL OF THIS IS VERY DISTURBING TO ME.

09:43:42 I HARDLY RECOGNIZE TAMPA GOVERNMENT ANYMORE.

09:43:45 STAFF IS ORDER TO READ CITY COUNCIL PRIVATE E-MAILS,

09:43:49 BUT YET, ONE OF YOU A CITY ATTORNEY IS ACCUSED OF

09:43:51 VIOLATING THE SUNSHINE LAWS.

09:43:55 CASTOR SELECTED SOMEONE TOTALLY INADEQUATE FOR THE

09:43:58 CHIEF'S JOB PASSING OVER A QUALIFIED HISPANIC.

09:44:02 ONE OF YOU COUNCIL VIOLATED TO FORCED RESIGN IN A

09:44:07 SHODDY LAWSUIT BY THE SHODDY DEEP INTEREST GROUP.

09:44:11 THE ALICE AND WONDERLAND UPSIDE DOWN AND BACKWARDS OR

09:44:14 PUTIN'S RUSSIA.

09:44:17 THE SKETCHY HANNA STREET CONTRACT, THE HIGHLY

09:44:21 UNPOPULATED PURE PROPOSAL THAT THE CITY RUNS DOWN OUR

09:44:22 THROAT.

09:44:25 LATEST SHOCK, A DEDICATED CITY COUNCILMEMBER WHO WORKED

09:44:28 TIRELESSLY AND CONSERVE THE CHARACTER AND IMPORTANCE OF

09:44:32 OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND ECOSYSTEMS HAS BEEN RAILROADED

09:44:35 INTO RESIGNING AS THE MAYOR'S CITY ATTORNEY REFUSES TO

09:44:37 DEFEND HIM.

09:44:39 THINGS ARE GOING DOWN FAST.

09:44:44 IF HE ISN'T RIGHTFULLY APPOINTED TO CHIEF, REUBEN

09:44:48 DELGADO SHOULD SUE THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR WORKPLACE

09:44:48 DISCRIMINATION.

09:44:50 IT IS ILLEGAL UNDER FEDERAL LAW.

09:44:55 I TOO WAS A VICTIM OF WORKPLACE DISCRIMINATION.

09:44:57 I FILED IN COURT AND I WON.

09:45:00 FOR THE LEADERSHIP THAT IS CURRENTLY LACKING IN CITY

09:45:00 GOVERNMENT.

09:45:07 VOTE NO TO O'CONNOR AND INSIST THAT REUBEN DELGADO BE

09:45:08 PROMOTED TO CHIEF.

09:45:11 HE DESERVE IT IS AND THE COMMUNITY DOES TOO.

09:45:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

09:45:14 [APPLAUSE]

09:45:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO APPLAUSE, FOLKS.

09:45:17 AGAIN, EVERYBODY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

09:45:23 >>CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER IS CAROLYN WENDY EISLER.

09:45:26 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE

09:45:27 THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

09:45:33 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS AND STAFF, I LIVE

09:45:33 IN SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.

09:45:35 I AM SPEAKING WITH YOU TO VOICE MY CONCERN REGARDING

09:45:40 THE PROCESS OF THE NOMINATION OF MARY ELIZABETH

09:45:42 O'CONNOR AS TAMPA POLICE CHIEF.

09:45:46 MY MAIN CONCERN IS THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN THE

09:45:50 SEARCH AND SELECTION, THE ELECTION PROCESS AND NOW THE

09:45:53 RUSH TO INSTALL AN UNCONFIRMED NOMINEE TO THE ROLE.

09:45:58 SO WHY WAS OUR SEARCH NET CAST SO NARROW.

09:46:02 WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE PROCESS OF A LOCAL NEWSPAPER, CITY

09:46:05 OF TAMPA COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR SAID THAT THE SEARCH

09:46:06 WAS NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

09:46:09 IN ADDITION, HE SAID HE WAS UNABLE TO PROVIDE A LIST OF

09:46:11 THE CANDIDATES PRESENTED FOR THE JOB.

09:46:14 THE PROCESS WHICH APPARENTLY NETTED THREE VIABLE

09:46:17 CANDIDATES WAS LARGELY CONDUCTED IN THE DARK AND OUT OF

09:46:18 THE PUBLIC EYE.

09:46:21 LACK OF ACCESS TO THE CANDIDATES LEFT THE PUBLIC WITH

09:46:24 NO CLEAR INSIGHT INTO WHAT EACH OF THE VISIONS WERE FOR

09:46:26 THE ROLE OF TAMPA POLICE CHIEF, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY

09:46:30 FOR THE IDEAS OF HOW TO IMPROVE THE RELATIONSHIPS

09:46:32 BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THE POLICE FORCE

09:46:37 WHICH WAS LARGELY DAMAGED IN THE DEBACLE AND THE

09:46:42 MISHANDLING OF BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTERS.

09:46:45 THESE NOT WITHSTANDING.

09:46:48 NOMINATE MARY O'CONNOR, A FORMER TAMPA POLICE

09:46:49 DEPARTMENT COLLEAGUE WHICH HAS NOT BEEN A POLICE

09:46:50 OFFICER IN TAMPA FOR OVER FIVE YEARS.

09:46:56 THIS IS CERTAINLY A DETRIMENT FOR A INCOMING LOCAL

09:46:59 LEADER.

09:47:02 WHICH BEGS THE QUESTION IS MARY O'CONNOR UNDER STANDS

09:47:04 THE CITY OF TAMPA NEEDS AND CHALLENGES.

09:47:07 DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE MAYOR HAS THE POWER TO

09:47:11 APPOINT A NEW POLICE CHIEF, THE CITY CHARTER SAYS FOUR

09:47:14 OF THE CITY COUNCIL SEVEN MEMBERS VOTE TO CONFIRM THE

09:47:16 MAYOR'S SELECTION.

09:47:19 AND YET MARY O'CONNOR HAS ALSO BEEN ACTED IN THAT

09:47:22 CAPACITY WITHOUT CONFIRMATION.

09:47:24 SHE HAS BEEN INTRODUCED AS CHIEF OF POLICE IN EVERY

09:47:25 OPPORTUNITY.

09:47:31 THIS FEELS LIKE USURPLE AND NOT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE

09:47:32 SELECTED.

09:47:35 WE HAVE AN INTERIM POLICE CHIEF.

09:47:37 WHY HASTEN THE CAREFUL AND CONSIDERATION OF THE BEST

09:47:38 POSSIBLE CANDIDATE.

09:47:41 DON'T WE UNDERSTAND THAT WHO WE CHOOSE TO ULTIMATELY

09:47:45 SERVE IN THIS ROLE MATTERS A GREAT DEAL.

09:47:47 BOTH NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.

09:47:49 AFTER A YOU WILL A FORMER TAMPA CHIEF OF POLICE IS NOW

09:47:50 OUR MAYOR.

09:47:54 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK MAY YOU ACT

09:47:57 TO ALLAY THE CONCERNS OF CONSTITUENTS IN THIS IMPORTANT

09:47:59 MATTER.

09:48:02 >>CLERK: LAST SPEAKER WE HAVE IS MISS FRAN TATE, AND IF

09:48:06 YOU CAN HEAR ME, MISS TATE, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO

09:48:07 SPEAK.

09:48:20 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

09:48:21 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME.

09:48:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MISS TATE.

09:48:27 >> I AM ASSISTANT CRIME WATCH COORDINATOR.

09:48:31 GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.

09:48:35 IT WAS REQUESTED FOR CHIEF O'CONNOR TO VISIT THE

09:48:40 COMMUNITY SO WE GET TO HEAR FROM HER AND SHE GETS TO

09:48:41 HEAR FROM US.

09:48:46 ON THE 28TH OF FEBRUARY, THE CRIME WATCH GROUP ATTENDED

09:48:49 A COMMUNITY FORUM ADDRESSING VIOLENT CRIME AT THE

09:48:50 UNIVERSITY.

09:48:53 CHIEF O'CONNOR WAS THERE.

09:48:58 SHE LISTENED ATTENTIVELY TO OUR CONCERNS.

09:49:02 WITH THE HELP OF THE COMMUNITY, SEE SOMETHING, SAY

09:49:05 SOMETHING, PEOPLE, TO ADDRESS THE GUN VIOLENCE.

09:49:10 SHE ALSO STATED THAT SHE WOULD REOPEN COLD CASES.

09:49:13 AND SHE WOULD INSTITUTE A PROGRAM TO ADDRESS MENTAL

09:49:18 HEALTH AWARENESS WITHIN OUR OWN POLICE FORCE.

09:49:21 WE ALSO SHARED WITH HER THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR

09:49:27 COMMUNITY POLICING IN EAST TAMPA ESPECIALLY.

09:49:29 FOR THESE REASONS, THE JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD

09:49:33 CRIME WATCH GROUP SUPPORT MAYOR JANE CASTOR'S

09:49:36 APPOINTMENT OF MARY O'CONNOR AS POLICE CHIEF.

09:49:41 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

09:49:45 >>CLERK: CHAIR, THAT CONCLUDES THE REMOTE SPEAKERS FOR

09:49:46 TODAY.

09:49:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC

09:49:48 COMMENT.

09:50:15 NUMBER ONE.

09:50:18 >> I GOT UP THIS MORNING TO COME HAVING HAD BACK

09:50:19 SURGERY --

09:50:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: EXCUSE ME, MA'AM, STATE YOUR NAME.

09:50:24 >> CAROL PARMER.

09:50:28 MY HUSBAND. PETER PARMER, WORKED 18 YEARS BEFORE HE RESIGNED

09:50:29 YEARS BACK.

09:50:35 AND I WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK FOR MARY O'CONNOR AND

09:50:39 THE FACT THAT HER FAMILY IN MANY WAYS HAS BEEN A PART

09:50:44 OF THE POLICE EVIDENT -- BOTH SHE APPEARED HER HUSBAND.

09:50:48 I HAVE KNOWN HER TO BE AN HONORABLE WOMAN THAT

09:50:51 REPRESENTS THE WOMEN'S RIGHTS THAT WE HAVE NEEDED.

09:50:53 I GREW UP IN PLANT CITY.

09:50:58 I MOVED TO TAMPA IN 1966 WHEN THE BIGGEST FIGHT WE WON

09:51:01 WAS BEING ABLE TO WEAR TROUSERS TO WORK.

09:51:05 SOUNDS SO SILLY IN THESE DAYS, BUT IT WAS THAT KIND OF

09:51:09 A THING THAT WOMEN WERE TRYING TO FIND THEIR WAY UP

09:51:14 INTO BEING ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES AND MAKE THE CITY SAFER

09:51:22 AND STOP THE SQUABBLING BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS AND

09:51:24 WORKED TOGETHER FOR A METROPOLITAN AREA BECAUSE WE HAVE

09:51:26 BECOME A BIG CITY WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.

09:51:33 I HAD OCCASION TO BE IN A SPEAKING SITUATION WITH MARY

09:51:38 WHEN SHE RETIRED AND WENT OUT INTO THE LECTURE CIRCUIT

09:51:42 TO SPEAK TO OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND EVENTUALLY TO

09:51:47 THE FBI IN THE YEARS SHE WAS NOT ACTIVELY WORKING WITH

09:51:48 TAMPA POLICE.

09:51:58 AND SHE DID THAT AS I UNDERSTAND IT AND SHE HAS BEEN

09:52:04 WISE AND NOT FALLING DOWN AND PICKING HERSELF UP AND GO

09:52:07 TO THE NEXT PLACE IN THE THINGS SHE HAD LEARNED IN ALL

09:52:10 OF THESE YEARS BEING IN THE POLICE WORK.

09:52:15 AND THAT SHE IS -- ALWAYS HAS BEEN IN THE CITY AND

09:52:16 ALWAYS HAD HER FAMILY HERE.

09:52:21 SO I AM GLAD TO SEE SHE HAS BEEN, I GUESS IT IS CALLED

09:52:24 NOMINATED AT THIS POINT TO THE POLICE CHIEF, BECAUSE

09:52:28 SHE IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE FOR WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE

09:52:32 MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE A SAFE

09:52:37 COMMUNITY WITH ALL KINDS OF DIVERSITY.

09:52:38 THANK YOU.

09:52:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

09:53:01 NUMBER TWO.

09:53:02 >> YES.

09:53:04 MY NAME IS MELVIN HICKS.

09:53:06 HOW ARE YOU DOING, COUNCIL.

09:53:08 I HAVE BEEN COMING TO THIS CITY A LONG TIME.

09:53:11 AND I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF STUFF.

09:53:15 I HAVE SEEN THIS COUNCIL GO TO COUNTY COUNCIL.

09:53:22 I HAVE SEEN -- I HAVE SEEN ABOUT EVERYTHING AND THIS

09:53:23 RIGHT HERE.

09:53:25 I DON'T THINK MISS O'CONNOR SHOULD BE CHIEF.

09:53:29 THE PROCESS HAS BEEN VIOLATED AND THE INTEGRITY OF THE

09:53:33 PROCESS HAS BEEN VIOLATED.

09:53:37 SO, I -- IF I WAS TO ASSAULT A HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

09:53:40 DEPUTY, I WOULD BE LOCKED UP RIGHT NOW, BUT, YOU KNOW,

09:53:44 PROCESS WOULD BE VIOLATED.

09:53:50 THE MAYOR VIOLATED THE PROCESS WITH Y'ALL.

09:53:52 AND YOU ARE LEGISLATORS.

09:53:55 SHE IS A LEGISLATOR TOO, SO SHE VIOLATED THE PROCESS

09:53:56 AND DOING THAT.

09:54:02 REMEMBER WHEN BUCKHORN SAID WHEN HE MADE DUGGAN CHIEF.

09:54:04 CALLED HIM ON THE PHONE AND SAY DO YOU WANT TO BE

09:54:05 CHIEF.

09:54:07 REMEMBER WHEN BUCKHORN SAID THAT.

09:54:11 AND THE MAYOR DID WITH HER.

09:54:12 PROCESS BEING VIOLATED.

09:54:17 BUT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN HERE UNDER BUCKHORN.

09:54:20 I REMEMBER Y'ALL.

09:54:24 THE FIRST TIME A CONFIRMATION HAS BEEN LIKE THIS FOR A

09:54:26 POLICE CHIEF.

09:54:29 SO WE KNOW THE PROCESS HAS BEEN VIOLATED RIGHT NOW.

09:54:32 THE INTEGRITY IS BEING VIOLATED.

09:54:35 SHE DOESN'T FIT THE CATEGORY.

09:54:37 TAMPA NEEDS TO HEAL.

09:54:41 YOU CAN'T HAVE HER WITH BAGGAGE COMING TO THE POLICE

09:54:42 FORCE AS CAPTAIN.

09:54:44 COME ON.

09:54:47 IT'S BAGGAGE FOR THE CITY.

09:54:50 2020 SHOULD HAVE TOLD YOU THAT RIGHT THERE.

09:54:54 SHE IS BAGGAGE FOR THE -- FOR THE LOOK FOR THE CITY

09:54:55 RIGHT NOW.

09:54:56 WE ARE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

09:55:00 REMEMBER JANE CASTOR USED TO BE CHIEF OF POLICE

09:55:02 SOMEWHERE ELSE, NOT JUST TAMPA.

09:55:02 REMEMBER THAT.

09:55:05 THAT IS WAY BACK THERE.

09:55:08 BUT THE INTEGRITY IS BEING VIOLATED.

09:55:11 YOU KNOW THAT AND SHE AIN'T SUPPOSED TO BE CHIEF AND

09:55:14 NOT SUPPOSED -- THAT IS JUST ME.

09:55:18 I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE EVER SINCE THE QUIZNO'S

09:55:20 WAS RIGHT THERE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

09:55:21 FIVE GUYS.

09:55:23 YEAH, I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE.

09:55:30 SO I KNOW HER -- REMEMBER HOUSING.

09:55:31 THE EVICTION PROCESS.

09:55:36 AND JANE CASTOR ISSUING -- HAD TO RESIGN AND THEN

09:55:37 MAYOR.

09:55:40 POLITICS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

09:55:42 SHE IS RUNNING ON THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE POLICE

09:55:42 DEPARTMENT.

09:55:48 COME ON NOW, WE HIRED HER -- NO, WE ELECTED HER MAYOR.

09:55:50 NOT CHIEF OF POLICE.

09:55:52 WE ELECTED HER MAYOR.

09:55:54 HOW MANY HATS IS SHE WEARING?

09:55:55 FOR REAL.

09:56:00 THE MAYOR VIOLATING -- WE NEED TO REIN HER IN.

09:56:02 WE NEED TO SEPARATE, FOR REAL.

09:56:04 IT IS APPALLING.

09:56:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. HICKS.

09:56:20 NUMBER THREE.

09:56:24 NUMBER FOUR.

09:56:26 >> HEY, NUMBER THREE.

09:56:38 >> HANG ON.

09:56:39 >> I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT --

09:56:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.

09:56:43 >> YES, I AM JAMES GRAHAM.

09:56:49 OKAY, I'M HERE TO STATE SOMETHING ABOUT THE NEW ALLEGED

09:56:51 POLICE CHIEF COMING UP AND WHATEVER.

09:56:54 IMAGINE RUNNING OUT OF GAS GOING TO YOUR HOUSE AFTER

09:56:57 HELPING SOMEBODY WHO IS STRANDED.

09:57:02 YOU RUN A GAS AND HAVE A GUN IN YOUR VEHICLE.

09:57:03 LEGALLY COED.

09:57:07 PROPERLY CONTAINED AND GET ARRESTED ONE DAY IN THE

09:57:10 COUNTY JAIL, ONE DAY SERVED.

09:57:11 YOU CAN'T GET A JOB.

09:57:15 YOU CAN'T GET A JOB AS A DETENTION DEPUTY.

09:57:16 NOTHING.

09:57:17 STILL HAVE THE GUN.

09:57:18 THAT'S ME.

09:57:20 ANOTHER THING I WANT TO BRING UP.

09:57:23 YOU TALK OF REPARATIONS AND DOING GOOD AND MAKING

09:57:24 THINGS RIGHT.

09:57:29 45 YEARS AGO, 1977, TAMPA STADIUM, LED ZEPPELIN RIOT.

09:57:32 THAT IS ME LAYING ON THE FIELD WITH MY SISTER STANDING

09:57:35 OVER THERE LOOKING AT THE PAPER CLIPS, IT IS FUNNY.

09:57:38 ONE YOUTH THAT STAYED IN THE HOSPITAL OVERNIGHT.

09:57:41 WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PAPER, I IDENTIFIED THE COP THAT

09:57:41 BEAT ME UP.

09:57:45 I SAID LOOKED LIKE A BULLDOG IN THE HELMET.

09:57:46 HE IS DEAD NOW.

09:57:48 HIS NAME WAS LARRY BENSON.

09:57:49 OKAY.

09:57:50 I STOOD IN THE HOSPITAL.

09:57:52 I GOT MY ARM AND BACK BROKEN.

09:57:55 I STILL TALK TO THE DOCTOR THAT TOOK CARE OF ME 45

09:57:57 YEARS AGO IN THE VA HOSPITAL.

09:57:58 THIS IS FUNNY.

09:57:59 I WANT REPARATIONS.

09:58:01 Y'ALL GET WITH ME.

09:58:02 IF YOU WANT A CARD.

09:58:04 I WILL GIVE YOU A A CARD WITH PHONE NUMBER.

09:58:07 IF YOU DON'T WANT TO -- SEE I AM ALSO A PHOTOGRAPHER.

09:58:10 AND I HAVE BEEN, CHARLIE, AT THE BLUE COLLAR COMEDY

09:58:12 TOUR AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE.

09:58:13 I HAVE BEEN AROUND.

09:58:16 I HAVE BEEN TO SOME OF YOUR INTERESTING LITTLE GET

09:58:16 TOGETHERS.

09:58:18 I HAVE GOT PHOTOS.

09:58:22 I AM STARTING TO WRITE A BOOK.

09:58:24 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SWEATING BULLETS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I

09:58:26 AM A VETERAN THAT DOESN'T EXIST.

09:58:29 I AM A VETERAN THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY RECORDS, NO

09:58:29 TATTOOS.

09:58:34 I AM NOT IN THE STUPID LITTLE YEARBOOK.

09:58:36 I HAVE A BLEMISH ON MY FACE.

09:58:40 I REALIZE WHY I WASN'T PHOTOED IF AT ALL.

09:58:43 I DID RICH PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT DIRTY WORK.

09:58:44 THAT IS ME.

09:58:48 I WAS THE ONLY PERSON, 16-YEAR-OLD BOY TRYING TO HELP

09:58:51 MY SISTER UP AND I REMEMBER WOULD YOU LIKE -- WILL JUST

09:58:52 PHRASE IT.

09:58:56 GET UP YOU F'ING HIPPY.

09:59:00 AND I TALKED TO A GUY AT THE FAIR GETTING A POSTER OF

09:59:01 THE LED ZEPPELIN.

09:59:05 I GOT MY ASS KICKED AT LED ZEPPELIN FOR $10.

09:59:10 ANYHOW, THIS THING RIGHT HERE -- YOU KNOW I AM CON

09:59:12 FRONTING ISSUES FROM THE PAST BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS

09:59:15 GETTING SO DISAPPOINTED AND HELPED OUT HERE.

09:59:17 I WISH THE CANDIDATE THE BEST.

09:59:19 THAT IS UP TO YOU.

09:59:21 BUT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE EARN RESPECT AND TRUST AND STUFF.

09:59:24 I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS GOING TO GO EXACTLY.

09:59:28 SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE -- I KNOW A LOT OF HONORABLE AND

09:59:31 RESPECTFUL AND COPS WITH INTEGRITY AND THEY KNOW I GOT

09:59:32 THEIR BACK.

09:59:37 THEY KNOW IF THEY ARE BEING SHOT AT, I WILL BE SHOOTING

09:59:41 AT THE PEOPLE WITH THEM SHOOTING.

09:59:44 BUT THERE WILL COME A TIME WHEN I THINK IT IS INTO THE

09:59:46 MY JOB OR OBLIGATION TO WORK.

09:59:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

09:59:50 >> NOBODY WANTS A CARD, THAT IS GOOD.

09:59:54 YOU WILL BE HEARING THINGS IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.

09:59:58 I HAVE BEEN WRITE THINGS.

10:00:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:00:14 NUMBER FOUR.

10:00:15 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:00:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING.

10:00:17 STATE YOUR NAME.

10:00:20 >> MY NAME IS BRENDA CANINO.

10:00:23 I AM A FORMER CITY OF TAMPA POLICE OFFICER.

10:00:25 AND I DID PATROL THE STREETS OF TAMPA WITH CHIEF

10:00:27 O'CONNOR.

10:00:29 MANY YEARS.

10:00:30 SHE KNOWS THE CITY.

10:00:34 SHE KNOWS ITS PEOPLE.

10:00:37 AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE RECENT APPOINTMENT

10:00:43 OF CHIEF O'CONNOR BY MAYOR JANE CASTOR HAS CREATED A

10:00:46 WHIRLWIND OF RUMOR AND DOUBT AS TO EXACTLY WHO CHIEF

10:00:49 O'CONNOR IS.

10:00:53 QUESTIONS OF HER CREDIBILITY, OTHER FORMS OF REASONABLE

10:00:56 DOUBT ARE NOT UNUSUAL FOR ANY SITUATION REGARDING

10:01:03 GOVERNMENT, APPOINTED POSITIONS OR EVEN FORMER ELECTION

10:01:04 OF CERTAIN OFFICIALS.

10:01:11 CRITICISM OF CHARACTER, HOWEVER OTHER FORMS OF

10:01:15 PREJUDICE, SLANDER AND SO FORTH ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF

10:01:17 SO-CALLED TRANSPARENT AND PROGRESSIVE ORGANIZATIONS

10:01:30 SUCH AS THE CITY OF TAMPA SADLY IT IS A MORE OPPRESSIVE

10:01:34 NATURE.

10:01:37 EYE FOR ONE CAN ATTEST TO THE CALIBER OF CHIEF

10:01:38 O'CONNOR.

10:01:43 AS A POLICEWOMAN A MOTHER, WIFE AND FRIEND AND MOST

10:01:49 IMPORTANTLY AS A BACK-UP IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:01:54 WE -- WELL, I WAS PART OF THE PERSONALITY THAT

10:02:04 PROTECTED PRESIDENT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND OUR

10:02:06 CONCERN IS THE PROTECTION OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF

10:02:10 TAMPA THAT IS AT THE POINT AT THIS TIME.

10:02:13 I'M HERE TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN WHY SHE IS MORE QUALIFIED

10:02:17 FOR THE POSITION AND WHY ALL THE SPECULATORS SHOULD

10:02:22 TAKE SEAT, TAKE NOTE AND RE-EVALUATE YOUR OPINIONS.

10:02:26 FIRST AND FOREMOST, HER DEDICATION TO THE JOB, AS WELL

10:02:30 AS HER PEERS AND FAMILIES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN EVIDENCE

10:02:33 WHILE WORKING THE LINE OF DUTY.

10:02:37 SHE IS FEARLESS IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY, AND REMEMBER

10:02:43 RESILIENCE ALWAYS MANAGED TO MOVE ME AS AN INDIVIDUAL.

10:02:51 CHIEF O'CONNOR IS EXTREMELY DEDICATED TO WHAT SHE DOES

10:02:55 CHIEF O'CONNOR IS EXEMPLARY IN ALL THESE VALUES.

10:02:59 IN ADDITION TO BEING A STRONG HISPANIC FEMALE FULLY

10:03:04 EDUCATED FULLY CAPABLE OF BEING CHIEF FOR THE CITY OF

10:03:06 TAMPA POLICE.

10:03:09 I WOULD HIGHLY ADVISE ANYONE WHO IS EITHER IN DOUBT OF

10:03:15 CHIEF O'CONNOR OR WHO HAS ANY PREDETERMINE INCLINATIONS

10:03:19 ABOUT HER TO TAKE SERIOUS INVENTORY, SELF-INVENTORY, OF

10:03:23 YOURSELF BEFORE PASSING ANY FURTHER JUDGMENT.

10:03:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, BRENDA.

10:03:30 >> THANK YOU.

10:03:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER FIVE.

10:03:44 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, BRET BARTLETT.

10:03:45 RETIRED FROM TAMPA POLICE.

10:03:47 ALMOST THERE 32 YEARS.

10:03:52 I ROSE FROM THE RANKS OF PATROLMAN TO CAPTAIN.

10:03:55 I DIRECTED A SECTION OF D-3 WHEN IT WAS BRAND-NEW.

10:03:59 A VERY CHALLENGING VERY GOOD TIME.

10:04:06 INTERNAL BUREAU, INTERNAL AFFAIRS BUREAU, I HAD A

10:04:07 VARIED CAREER.

10:04:10 HAVING SAID THAT I HAD WHAT THE OFFICER SAY A SPLOTCHY

10:04:13 DISCIPLINARY HISTORY.

10:04:17 I HAD ROUGH TIMES.

10:04:21 I WAS FORTUNATE THAT THE LEADERSHIP RECOGNIZED -- HOW

10:04:23 RETHEY CAN NICEED THE ABILITY TO SERVE AND DO A GOOD

10:04:23 JOB.

10:04:24 I BENEFITED FROM THAT.

10:04:28 I AM A BIG BELIEVER IN SECOND CHANCES.

10:04:29 I WORKED WITH MARY O'CONNOR.

10:04:33 I KNOW SHE IS A PERSON OF INTEGRITY, ENTHUSIASM.

10:04:35 I THINK SHE IS GOING TO DO A GOOD JOB.

10:04:40 I RISE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF CHIEF O'CONNOR AND RISE IN

10:04:44 SUPPORT OF MAYOR CASTOR'S ABILITY AND DECISION TO THINK

10:04:46 WHATEVER SHE THINKS IS NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS

10:04:49 IN THIS CITY THAT SHE WANTS TO ACHIEVE.

10:04:51 MY HATS OFF TO CHIEF O'CONNOR.

10:04:53 I WISH HER THE BEST OF LUCK.

10:04:56 AND, AGAIN, I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THIS DECISION.

10:04:58 AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

10:05:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, BRETT.

10:05:16 NUMBER 6.

10:05:17 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:05:18 IT'S A PLEASURE.

10:05:20 FIRST THING, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR EACH OF OUR

10:05:23 DISTRICTS ON A DAILY BASIS.

10:05:26 RAFAEL PIZANO.

10:05:35 I AM A LIAISON FOR THE CITY

10:05:36 OF TAMPA.

10:05:39 OUR COUNCIL MET WITH POLICE CHIEF MARY O'CONNOR.

10:05:40 WE HAD A REAL HUMAN EXPERIENCE.

10:05:43 I THINK FIRST THING WE NOTICED POST THAT MEETING IS OUR

10:05:44 CITY IS BLESSED.

10:05:46 WE HAVE MORE THAN ONE CANDIDATE.

10:05:49 AND THEY BOTH -- IF A THIRD CONSIDERED HAVE A

10:05:52 INCREDIBLE DEDICATION AND HISTORY TO THE COMMUNITY.

10:05:56 WE VALUE THAT EQUALLY AND RESPECT THAT AND ADMIRE THAT

10:05:59 AND WITH THE LOVE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:06:01 CONCLUSION OF THE BOARD THAT THE EXPERIENCE THAT CHIEF

10:06:04 O'CONNOR CAN OFFER THE CITY, HER 22 YEARS EXPERIENCE.

10:06:06 HER FIVE YEARS TRAVELING ACROSS THE COUNTRY, HER WORK

10:06:10 WITH THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, IT CAN BRING

10:06:12 A LOT OF LIGHT TO OUR CITY AND IT IS WELCOMED.

10:06:14 IT IS EMBRACED.

10:06:16 AND WE WOULD SUPPORT THIS NOMINATION.

10:06:20 THAT IS MY PART TODAY AS A LIAISON FOR THE COUNCIL.

10:06:27 NOW I WILL SPEAK FOR RAFAEL PIRZANO, VETERAN, LOVING

10:06:28 MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.

10:06:31 MY PERSONAL WORDS ARE THAT I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT

10:06:33 SACRIFICED.

10:06:35 BECAUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS DO SACRIFICE QUITE A

10:06:36 BIT.

10:06:39 THEY PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE.

10:06:43 THEIR FAMILIES ENDURE QUITE A BIT.

10:06:46 I MET A HUMAN BEING THE DAY OUR COUNCIL MET.

10:06:48 AND I SPOKE ONE ON ONE WITH HER.

10:06:50 I SEE SOMEONE THAT WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND.

10:06:54 AND I NOTICE THAT WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE WE WATCH

10:06:58 MOVIES OR READ PHILOSOPHY AND HAVE OUR BELIEFS IN

10:07:00 SECOND CHANCES AND STONE IN REALITY PEOPLE WITH ANY

10:07:04 EXPERIENCE THAT THEY LEARN FROM.

10:07:07 I SEE ONE MINUTE THING ABOUT THIS HUMAN BEING, AND

10:07:11 I SEE HOW THEY CREATED SO MUCH LIGHT AND POSITIVE FOR

10:07:14 THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE COUNTRY.

10:07:15 I HAVE READ.

10:07:16 I HAVE RESEARCHED.

10:07:17 I HAVE SEEN THE WORK ABROAD.

10:07:20 AND I PERSONALLY FEEL AS A RESIDENT -- I CONSIDER

10:07:22 MYSELF A SON OF TAMPA.

10:07:23 WE EACH LOVE THE CITY SO MUCH.

10:07:26 I SEE THIS INDIVIDUAL THAT I DO NOT PERSONALLY KNOW AS

10:07:29 SOMEONE THAT BRINGS A CERTAIN EXPERIENCE OR IN THE PAST

10:07:31 I WOULD NOT HAVE CONSIDERED.

10:07:34 THE ENCOUNTER, THAT ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THAT SHE

10:07:37 ENCOUNTERED IN HER YOUTH, SHE OFFERS AN EXPERIENCE THAT

10:07:42 SHE UNDERSTANDS MULTIPLE ANGLES OF THOUGHT WHEN IT

10:07:43 COMES TO POLICING.

10:07:45 SHE KNOWS WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO ENDURE CERTAIN

10:07:47 CHARACTER AND INDIVIDUALS.

10:07:49 SHE UNDERSTAND OURS RESIDENTS.

10:07:52 SHE UNDERSTANDS POLICING.

10:07:54 SHE UNDERSTANDS OUR COMMUNITY.

10:07:58 I WISH HER AND THE OTHER CANDIDATES, I THANK THEM.

10:08:01 I SUPPORT CHIEF MARY O'CONNOR FOR CITY OF TAMPA POLICE.

10:08:02 THANK YOU.

10:08:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, RAFAEL.

10:08:13 NUMBER 7.

10:08:14 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:08:17 CONNIE BURTON.

10:08:22 I USUALLY FORMULATE MY THOUGHTS AFTER I HAVE HEARD A

10:08:26 WORD OF WISDOM, BUT WHAT WAS GIVEN TO US THIS MORNING

10:08:30 WAS THE SILENT MEDITATION OF WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE.

10:08:33 WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT IS

10:08:35 HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

10:08:39 AND I IMMEDIATELY REFLECTED UPON WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE

10:08:46 THAT HAVE HAD TO LIVE UP UNDER RACIAL PROFILING, NOT IN

10:08:49 A FARAWAY COUNTRY BUT HERE IN THIS CITY.

10:08:57 WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE EXPECTED THE LEADERSHIP

10:09:00 TO START FROM A PLACE OF -- WITH A CLEAN BROOM.

10:09:08 SO WE CAN GET ON A FRESH START WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT

10:09:09 HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THIS HISTORY OF POLICING IN THE

10:09:13 CITY OF TAMPA, PEOPLE CAN'T BE PROUD OF THAT.

10:09:16 IT'S NOT OF ONE PERSON THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.

10:09:19 WE ARE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT, THE LEADERSHIP

10:09:22 OF THE DEPARTMENT, THAT THOUGHT IT WAS ALL RIGHT TO

10:09:25 ENGAGE IN RACIAL PROFILING.

10:09:28 THAT THOUGHT IT WAS ALREADY FOR OFFICERS TO RECEIVE

10:09:31 PROMOTIONS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF ARRESTS THEY MADE IN

10:09:34 MINORITY COMMUNITIES.

10:09:38 THE FACT THAT WE HAVE DRIVING AND BIKING WHILE BLACK IS

10:09:40 NOT SOMETHING THAT WE MADE UP.

10:09:47 AND THEN WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE RECEIVING THIS

10:09:50 SECOND CHANCE OF REDEMPTION, WE DON'T SEE HOW BROAD IT

10:09:50 GOES.

10:09:55 WE JUST HERE FOR ONE PERSON, RIGHT NOW.

10:09:57 BUT NOBODY CAME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS HARMED

10:09:58 THE MOST.

10:10:01 I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FEDS COMING IN HERE, BUT I

10:10:03 AM TALKING ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS CITY COMING IN

10:10:09 AND SAYING, HARM WAS DONE TO THE AFRICAN COMMUNION.

10:10:13 HARM WAS DONE WITH GENERATIONAL PEOPLE WHERE PEOPLE

10:10:16 WERE CAPTAINS OR RATHER JUST MERE OFFICERS.

10:10:22 THOSE SAME PERSONS ARE BEING ASKED TO TAKE THE NEXT

10:10:24 LEVEL WHEN THEY HAVEN'T REPAIRED THE DAMAGE.

10:10:28 HOW DO YOU CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD OF THIS TYPE OF

10:10:31 IMBALANCE IN THIS CITY?

10:10:35 TAMPA CANNOT HEAL UNTIL YOU FIRST ADMIT SOMETHING WAS

10:10:39 DONE WRONG, NOT TO THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL BUT TO AN ENTIRE

10:10:44 COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE WHO WERE USED AS A STEP STONE FOR

10:10:45 OTHERS TO BENEFIT.

10:10:48 AND WE ALL KNOW IT HAPPENED.

10:10:52 AND SO WHILE PEOPLE WANT TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE, IT CAN

10:11:00 NOT BE DONE UNTIL WE HAVE TOTAL, TOTAL REPAIR FOR THOSE

10:11:02 THAT WERE HARMED FIRST.

10:11:06 AND WHEN WE GET THAT, THEN WE CAN MOVE ON.

10:11:07 THANK YOU.

10:11:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS BURTON.

10:11:21 NUMBER 8.

10:11:32 NUMBER 8.

10:11:34 >> MENTESNOT.

10:11:37 TOM BRADY MUST BE EXPERIENCING FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES.

10:11:39 WHAT A POOR EXAMPLE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND A POOR EXAMPLE

10:11:42 FOR PEOPLE IN GENERAL, BUT A GOOD EXAMPLE OF EXACTLY

10:11:45 HOW CAPITALISM DRAINS EVERYTHING OUT OF THE

10:11:48 WORKING-CLASS WITH NO CONSIDERATION OF THE WELL BEING

10:11:50 AND WELFARE OF THE WORKER.

10:11:53 SHOULD BE CALLED THE MUHAMMAD ALI SYNDROME.

10:11:58 TOM BRADY, ELDERLY MAN, 15 YEARS BEYOND PARTICIPATING

10:12:03 THE GLADIATOR, HEAD INJURY SPORT AND THE PEOPLE WE KNOW

10:12:06 TO TRUST TO DO BETTER IS ALL CHEERING HIM ON.

10:12:09 IT IS NO DIFFERENT THAN PEDOPHILES AND ENTICING AND

10:12:13 EXPLOITING LITTLE CHILDREN WITH CANDY AND VIDEO GAMES

10:12:16 AS HER SEXUALLY ABUSER, HUMAN PREDATORS ENTICING AND

10:12:21 EXPLOITING TEENAGERS WITH DREAMS OF STARDOM, RAP

10:12:26 CAREERS FOR TRAVEL AND PREPARE FOR DRUG RUNNING, HUMAN

10:12:30 TRAFFICKING AND GREAT FORMS OF GREAT EXPLOITATION.

10:12:34 THIS CITY COUNCIL SHOULD NOT ALLOW A PROCESS TO WORK

10:12:34 BACKWARDS.

10:12:38 THIS CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE A STRONG MESSAGE FOR THIS

10:12:42 MAYOR AND FUTURE MAYORS THAT THEY ARE ELECTED FOR THE

10:12:48 PEOPLE AND NO MAYOR SHOULD HAPHAZARDLY BYPASS THE

10:12:49 PROCESS.

10:12:53 MAYORAL REPENTANCE BECAUSE THEY WERE CONTROLLED BY THE

10:12:53 MEDIA.

10:12:57 BYPASSING THE CITIZENS AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS GRAVE

10:13:00 CONSEQUENCES AND ONE HAS ALREADY BEEN REVEALED WITH THE

10:13:03 TRAGIC DEATH OF A 44-YEAR-OLD CITIZEN THAT WAS A DIRECT

10:13:07 COLLATERAL DAMAGE OF IGNORANCE POLICIES AND DISRESPECT

10:13:09 FOR CITIZENS AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

10:13:12 PROPERTY CRIMES LIKE A STOLEN AUTOMOBILE SHOULD NOT BE

10:13:14 PRIORITIZED OR CLASSIFIED AS CRIMES THAT COULD

10:13:18 POTENTIALLY LEAD TO THE DEATH OR SENTENCE OF INNOCENT

10:13:19 CITIZENS.

10:13:24 AN AUTOMOBILE FROM MLK TO TAMPA STREET.

10:13:28 TURKEY CREEK IN SEFFNER AND 18 MILES IS NOT ONLY

10:13:30 IRRESPONSIBLE BUT CRIMINAL.

10:13:32 BOTH THE OCCUPANTS AND THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT CHASE

10:13:35 THE AUTO, THE POLICE CHIEF AND THE MAYOR SHOULD BE HELD

10:13:38 CRIMINALLY ACCOUNTABLE AND RESPONSIBLE.

10:13:40 LEAVES OUR REPARATIONS AND MAKING RACIST STATEMENTS

10:13:45 CONNECTING CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND REFORM TO FAITH-BASED

10:13:49 SHOW A GREAT DEAL OF RACIAL INSENSITIVITY.

10:13:54 THE SAME WAY CITY COUNCILMEMBER JOHN DINGFELDER WAS

10:13:56 FORCED TO RESIGN IS THE SAME WAY THAT THEY SHOULD

10:14:02 DEMAND THE RESIGNATION OF THE JUDGE FOR CONNECTED TO

10:14:04 CARL HENSON.

10:14:07 THE SAME WAY THE CITY OF TAMPA SHOULD LET THE MAYOR

10:14:09 KNOW WITH A STRONG NO VOTE EVEN IN A TECHNOLOGICAL

10:14:15 ADVANCED, YOU SHOULD NOT PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

10:14:17 CITIZENS HAVE RESPONSIBILITY OF GAS PRICES, INFLATION,

10:14:22 $108 BILLION GOVERNMENT SPENDING, GENTRIFICATION,

10:14:28 HOUSING CRISIS, RUNAWAY INCREASES AND NOT ADHERING TO

10:14:29 POLICY.

10:14:31 NOT ABOUT MARY O'CONNOR OR THE LUCK OF THE IRISH BUT

10:14:33 PROCESS AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

10:14:40 THIS CITY COUNCIL SHOULD VOTE NO.

10:14:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:14:49 NUMBER 9.

10:14:53 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, YVETTE LEWIS, PRESIDENT

10:14:56 OF THE NAACP HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BRANCH.

10:14:59 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, COULD SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER THE

10:15:00 QUESTION.

10:15:02 WHERE WAS THE TRANSPARENCY IN THIS PROCESS OF SELECTING

10:15:04 THE CHIEF OF POLICE?

10:15:08 WHERE WAS THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND ENGAGEMENT IN

10:15:12 SELECTING THE CHIEF OF POLICE?

10:15:18 I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE CITY OF TAMPA, TAXPAYER --

10:15:22 CITY OF TAMPA PAID FOR A NATIONWIDE SEARCH WITH

10:15:26 TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND END UP WITH THREE PEOPLE IN OUR

10:15:26 OWN STATE.

10:15:29 TWO IN TAMPA.

10:15:33 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, YOU WILL MAKE A DIFFICULT DECISION

10:15:35 TODAY.

10:15:41 THE MAYOR APPOINTED MARY O'CONNOR FOR CHIEF OF POLICE.

10:15:46 MARY O'CONNOR STATED AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE, WE CAN'T

10:15:50 -- WE CAN'T ARREST OUR WAY OUT OF CRIME.

10:15:53 SHE ALSO STATED -- STATED THAT SHE TREATED EVERYBODY

10:15:57 WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT, BUT YET AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN

10:16:01 THIS COMMUNITY WERE TARGETED WITH TICKETING AND ARRESTS

10:16:08 FOR RIDING A BIKE UNDER MARY O'CONNOR'S LEADERSHIP.

10:16:14 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, YOU ASKED, WHY ARE WE KEEP

10:16:16 BRINGING BIKING WHILE BLACK UP.

10:16:20 IT IS BECAUSE THE WOLVES ARE STILL THERE.

10:16:24 THE WOLVES ARE STILL PRESENT.

10:16:29 LATER, TO DISCOVER MORE RULES WERE OPEN.

10:16:33 /WITH THE CRIME FREE HOUSING PROGRAM TARGETED

10:16:36 AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND POOR PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:16:39 YOU SEE, A LOT OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR JOBS, THEIR

10:16:42 HOUSING.

10:16:47 AND MOST IMPORTANT, THEY LOST THEIR DIGNITY.

10:16:52 SINCE TAMPA BELIEVES IN SECOND CHANCES, MAYBE THEY

10:16:55 WILL REACH BACK AND REMOVE AND CORRECT SOME OF THE

10:16:57 INJUSTICES THAT WAS PLACED UPON THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN

10:17:04 COMMUNITY.

10:17:07 THIS PROCESS WAS FLAWED AND NEED TO START OVER IN ORDER

10:17:09 TO BUILD THE TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY.

10:17:13 AFTER ALL, TAMPA IS A DIVERSE CITY.

10:17:17 KNOWN AS CMAMPA BAY.

10:17:22 OH, I FORGET, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, COULD SOMEONE PLEASE

10:17:28 QUESTION THE GOOD OL' BOY NETWORK AT TPD AND ASK THEM

10:17:35 HOW THEY ALLOW A PERSON TO ADVANCE HER CAREER AFTER

10:17:36 RECEIVING A BATTERY ON A POLICE OFFICER.

10:17:43 YOU SEE WE FIGHT A LOT OF CASES DEALING WITH YOUTH IN

10:17:46 THE SCHOOLS WHEN YOU BRUSH UP ON BATTERY OF A POLICE

10:17:46 OFFICER.

10:17:50 WE FIGHT TO END THOSE CASES AND ERASE THEM BECAUSE IT

10:17:51 STAYS ON THEIR RECORDS.

10:17:58 SO ALL I AM SAYING IS CONSIDER WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS

10:17:58 SAYING.

10:18:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 10.

10:18:14 >> GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE, CHAPLAIN

10:18:18 RICHARD FELLOWS, OF THE CHAPLAIN OF THE POLICE

10:18:18 DEPARTMENT.

10:18:20 ONE OF THE CHAPLAINS.

10:18:22 I SUPPORT MARY O'CONNOR.

10:18:25 I HAVE KNOWN HER FOR 15 YEARS, BACK WHEN SHE WAS A

10:18:27 LIEUTENANT WHEN I CAME IN.

10:18:28 WAY BACK WHEN.

10:18:34 I KNOW HER AS BEING A WOMAN OF INTEGRITY, COMPASSION.

10:18:37 AND NOT ONLY FOR COMMAND STAFF BUT THE OFFICERS ON THE

10:18:37 STREET.

10:18:41 I SPEND MOST OF MY TIME WITH THEM.

10:18:44 TO A PERSON, THEY HAVE ALL SAID WHAT A WONDERFUL CHOICE

10:18:47 IT WAS AND HOW THEY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HER.

10:18:48 THEY FEEL SUPPORTED BY HER.

10:18:51 THEY FEEL EMPOWERED BY HER.

10:18:53 AND THEY SUPPORT HER 100%.

10:18:55 I RISE IN FAVOR OF HER APPOINTMENT.

10:18:57 THANK YOU.

10:19:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, CHAPLAIN, THANK YOU, SIR.

10:19:14 NUMBER 11.

10:19:16 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:19:18 PETE BREVI.

10:19:21 AS I ALWAYS SAY, THANK YOU FOR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK

10:19:21 TODAY.

10:19:25 I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT I SHARE A FEW WORDS ABOUT

10:19:27 THE -- ABOUT THE CONFIRMATION OF CHIEF O'CONNOR.

10:19:30 YOU KNOW, I AM NOT POLITICAL IN NATURE BY ANY STRETCH

10:19:33 OF THE IMAGINATION AND KIND OF OUTSIDE OF MY BOX TO

10:19:35 KIND OF DO THIS THING.

10:19:40 BUT EVER SINCE MAYOR CASTOR APPOINTED CHIEF MARY

10:19:42 O'CONNOR FOR THE POLICE CHIEF OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,

10:19:45 THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCOURSE.

10:19:47 AND I THOUGHT IT WAS MY OBLIGATION TO COME AND SHARE A

10:19:50 FEW OF MY OWN COMMENTS.

10:19:53 COUNTRY FOR THE HARD-WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF THE TAMPA

10:19:55 POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE THAT

10:19:57 THIS SITUATION SUSPECT ABOUT THE QUALIFICATIONS OF MARY

10:20:01 O'CONNOR, NOR ANY OF THE FINALISTS, NOR IS IT INVOLVING

10:20:05 REALLY ABOUT THE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED WITH MARY 27,

10:20:06 28 YEARS AGO.

10:20:08 IT IS REALLY ABOUT THE PROCESS, AND I THINK EVERYBODY

10:20:11 UNDERSTANDS THAT EVERYBODY HAS A VARIED OPINION ON

10:20:12 THAT.

10:20:14 UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T THINK THAT IS ONE OF THOSE

10:20:17 THINGS THEY SHOULD LAY AT THE FEET OF MARY O'CONNOR.

10:20:19 SHE IS NOT PART OF THAT PROCESS.

10:20:20 SHE WAS A CANDIDATE IN THAT PROCESS.

10:20:23 AND I DON'T THINK THAT BY ANY STRETCH OF THE

10:20:25 IMAGINATION MARY SHOULD BE THE BABY THAT GETS THROWN

10:20:28 OUT WITH THE BATH WATER.

10:20:31 BEING AN ALUMNI OF THIS VERY DEPARTMENT, I SPENT 30

10:20:34 YEARS AND SILL RESERVE POLICE OFFICER AND I HAVE BEEN

10:20:37 SO FOR ANOTHER SEVEN.

10:20:40 YOU KNOW, I HAVE -- I HAVE A DEEP REWARD FOR THIS

10:20:40 DEPARTMENT.

10:20:42 I THINK IT IS ONE OF THE FINEST DEPARTMENTS IN THE

10:20:43 COUNTRY.

10:20:46 MY OPINION THAT THE CONTROVERSY AND DELAY SURROUNDING

10:20:48 THIS CONFIRMATION IS DAMAGING TO A DEPARTMENT OF THIS

10:20:51 SIZE AND ITS COMMUNITY.

10:20:54 I THINK IN -- IN THE TIME THAT WE WERE ALL IN NOW

10:20:57 THROUGHOUT THE -- NOT ONLY THE WORLD BUT THE COUNTRY

10:21:00 AND LOCALLY AS A WHOLE, I JUST THINK THAT WE HAVE A LOT

10:21:03 OF ISSUES THAT NEED THE ATTENTION OF THE POLICE

10:21:06 DEPARTMENT.

10:21:09 YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CONFRONTED DAILY

10:21:11 WITH CHALLENGES AND ISSUES THAT REQUIRE STRONG

10:21:12 LEADERSHIP.

10:21:14 AND I SAID NOT ONLY THE BEST INTEREST OF THE DEPARTMENT

10:21:17 AND THE DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN THAT THE TPD DESERVES

10:21:21 TO HAVE A SINGULAR VOICE AND A STRONG ADVOCATE TO SPEAK

10:21:23 UP FOR THEM, AS ARE THE CITIZENS.

10:21:24 THEY DESERVE THE SAME.

10:21:27 ONE THING THAT IS INTERESTING THINK THAT NEVER HEARD

10:21:30 ONE ARGUMENT CONCERNING CHIEF O'CONNOR'S LACK OF

10:21:33 ABILITY, QUALIFICATIONS OR ABILITY TO LEAD THE

10:21:33 DEPARTMENT FORWARD.

10:21:36 REALLY WHEN I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THERE REALLY

10:21:37 ARE NONE.

10:21:40 SINCE THE MOMENT SHE WAS PUT IN A LEADERSHIP POSITION

10:21:42 20 SOMETHING YEARS AGO, THAT HAS NEVER BEEN A QUESTION.

10:21:46 YOU KNOW, SHE IS A VERY DEDICATED, FORWARD THINKING,

10:21:50 INNOVATIVE AND EXTREMELY LOYAL LEADER.

10:21:52 AND SHE MADE THE BEST OF A SECOND CHANCE.

10:21:55 YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNION AND

10:21:56 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE TIME HAS COME FOR EVERYBODY

10:22:00 TO UNIFY AND PUT THIS ISSUE TO BED AND CONFIRM CHIEF

10:22:01 O'CONNOR.

10:22:04 DOING SO WILL ALLOW HER AND HER COMMAND STAFF TO MOVE

10:22:07 FORWARD TO AFFECT THE MYRIAD OF CHALLENGES AND PROVIDE

10:22:10 A SAFE CITY THAT WE ARE ALL PROUD TO CALL HOME.

10:22:11 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

10:22:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, PETE.

10:22:23 NUMBER 12.

10:22:26 ALL THE RETIREES HERE TODAY.

10:22:28 >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE PULEO.

10:22:32 I RETIRED IN 2019 FROM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HOMICIDE

10:22:32 SQUAD.

10:22:35 AND I'M HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU WHY CHIEF MARY O'CONNOR

10:22:37 IS THE BEST CHOICE FOR CHIEF.

10:22:41 ALTHOUGH I AM NOT A RESIDENT OF THE CITY, I GROW UP IN

10:22:41 NORTHEST HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

10:22:44 I WENT TO SCHOOL AND ATTENDED CHURCH IN FOREST HILLS.

10:22:48 WHEN I WAS HIRED, IT WAS MY DESIRE TO WORK IN DISTRICT

10:22:51 2 IN THE AREA WHERE I GREW UP.

10:22:56 AND LATE 2009, I WAS PROMOTED TO DETECTIVE AND ASSIGNED

10:23:00 TO THE DISTRICT TWO INVESTIGATION SQUAD WHERE MARY WAS

10:23:01 THE SERGEANT.

10:23:04 TOURING THIS TIME I QUICKLY LEARNED SHE HELD HER

10:23:05 DETECTIVES TO A HIGH STANDARD.

10:23:07 SHE ALWAYS EMPHASIZED THAT WE WERE THERE TO WORK FOR

10:23:11 THE VICTIMS OF CRIME AND TO PROVIDE THEM THE BEST AND

10:23:14 MOST THOROUGH INVESTIGATION.

10:23:17 SHE ENCOURAGED HER DETECTIVES TO WORK CLOSELY OFFICERS

10:23:20 ON THE STREET AND ALSO TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.

10:23:23 TOGETHER UNDER HER DIRECTION, OUR DISTRICT WAS ABLE TO

10:23:24 REDUCE CRIME.

10:23:28 SHE ALWAYS FOSTERED CAMARADERIE BETWEEN MEMBERS OF OUR

10:23:32 SQUAD AND HAD US KEEP OUTSIDE INTEREST AND FAMILIES A

10:23:34 PRIORITY FOR OUR OWN WELLNESS.

10:23:37 OUR SQUAD WAS VERY CLOSE KNIT AND TO THIS DAY, MANY

10:23:40 MEMBERS ARE STILL IN CONTACT WITH EACH OTHER.

10:23:44 I LATER WORKED WITH MARY AS MY MAJOR WHEN I WAS

10:23:47 ASSIGNED TO THE VIOLENT CRIMES SQUAD.

10:23:50 SHE AND I KEPT IN TOUCH OVER THE YEARS AND SHE OFTEN

10:23:53 TALKS OF THE VICTIMS THAT OUR SQUADS AND OUR DEPARTMENT

10:23:55 IN GENERAL HAVE FELT.

10:23:59 I WAS RECENTLY SPEAKING WITH A MEMBER OF OUR OLD SQUAD.

10:24:02 HE REMINDED ME WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT CRIME STATISTICS,

10:24:06 MARY ALWAYS REMINDED US THAT BEHIND THE NUMBERS WERE

10:24:09 ACTUAL PEOPLE AND VICTIMS THAT DESERVED JUSTICE.

10:24:13 ABOVE ALL, SHE HAS ALWAYS EMPHASIZED THAT REGARDLESS OF

10:24:18 RACE, ETHNICITY, RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION OR NORTH

10:24:20 CAROLINA STATUS, ALL VICTIMS DESERVE AND WILL BE

10:24:23 TREATED WITH RESPECT AND THAT CITIZENS WILL RECEIVE THE

10:24:25 BEST POLICE SERVICE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THEM.

10:24:28 LIKE MYSELF, CHIEF O'CONNOR HAS A TRUE PASSION FOR

10:24:32 THIS DEPARTMENT AND FOR POLICE SERVICE.

10:24:36 SHE, TOO, HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN THIS CITY.

10:24:40 CHIEF O'CONNOR EPITOME OF A MENTOR AND LEADER AND CARES

10:24:43 DEEPLY OF PEOPLE OF THIS CITY.

10:24:47 IF THIS CITY COUNCIL AND THE DEPARTMENT WANTS A BETTER

10:24:50 QUALITY OF LIFE AND SHE IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE BEST

10:24:51 WESTERN FOR THIS POSITION.

10:24:53 THANK YOU.

10:24:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.

10:25:01 NUMBER 13.

10:25:04 GENTLEMEN, JUST SO YOU KNOW WE HAVE ROUGHLY OVER 50

10:25:08 SPEAKERS.

10:25:12 I HAVE A LIST HERE, MR. SHELBY.

10:25:13 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

10:25:15 MY NAME IS PETER WRIGHT.

10:25:17 GOOD MORNING, CHIEF.

10:25:19 AND GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

10:25:21 I AM NOT A POLITICIAN BY TRADE.

10:25:25 I AM A HOTEL GENERAL MANAGER IN YBOR CITY FOR A LUXURY

10:25:27 HOTEL.

10:25:30 YOU COME TO YOU TODAY TO PROVIDE SOME ENDORSEMENT FOR

10:25:30 MARY O'CONNOR.

10:25:33 I AM A REBOUND CITIZEN OF TAMPA.

10:25:36 I WAS HERE MANY YEARS AGO AND NOW BACK.

10:25:40 BUT I CAN TELL YOU, TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE OF THE

10:25:43 POTENTIAL IMPACT THAT MARY HAS ON OUR CITY.

10:25:46 I COME FROM -- COME TO YOU FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF A

10:25:48 COUPLE OF THINGS.

10:25:53 ONE IS I AM A STEWARD OF OVER 160 ASSOCIATES IN YBOR

10:25:55 CITY.

10:25:59 I AM THE STEWARD OF THOUSANDS OF GUESTS AT OUR HOTELS

10:26:01 AND RESTAURANTS.

10:26:04 AND I AM A STEWARD OF PROVIDING A POSITIVE IMPACT OF

10:26:07 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THE TAMPA BAY ECONOMY.

10:26:10 AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHEN I MET MARY O'CONNOR,

10:26:14 BEING NEW TO TAMPA BAY, SHE CAME DOWN AND SAT TO ME AND

10:26:16 SAID LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PEOPLE.

10:26:18 LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT YBOR CITY IS ABOUT.

10:26:20 AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

10:26:23 A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT STOOD OUT AND A COUPLE OF

10:26:27 THINGS THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME WAS, ONE, THE HEALTH

10:26:29 AND WELFARE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

10:26:33 AND HOW DO WE IMPROVE THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF OUR

10:26:39 POLICE DEPARTMENT AND RETAIN POLICE MEN AND WOMEN.

10:26:40 RETENTION IS SO IMPORTANT.

10:26:43 SECOND IS, HOW DO WE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY POLICING.

10:26:45 HOW ARE WE INVOLVED.

10:26:48 SHE ALSO TALKED ABOUT NOT LOCKING UP AND RELEASING.

10:26:51 AND HELPING THE MENTAL WELLNESS OF THOSE THAT NEED IT

10:26:57 IN YBOR CITY SO I JUST WANT TO COME BEFORE YOU TODAY

10:27:00 AND GIVE RECOMMENDATION AND ENDORSEMENT FOR CITY

10:27:00 COUNCIL.

10:27:03 DON'T THINK -- MY PERSPECTIVE COMES FROM CITIES LIKE

10:27:03 SEATTLE.

10:27:06 I WAS INVOLVED THERE.

10:27:08 HOUSTON, TEXAS.

10:27:09 CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA.

10:27:10 NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE.

10:27:13 I HAVE BEEN IN THOSE COMMUNITIES WHERE I HAVE SEEN NEW

10:27:15 CHIEFS APPOINTED AND HOW WE NEED TO BE MORE

10:27:16 DIVERSIFIED.

10:27:19 I CAN TELL YOU THAT MARY O'CONNOR WILL BE THE RIGHT

10:27:20 PERSON FOR THE ROLE.

10:27:23 AT CITY COUNCIL, DON'T JUST LOOK AT STRAIGHTFORWARD,

10:27:27 NOT JUST AT THIS, BUT LOOK AT A BROADER PICTURE AND SEE

10:27:30 THE POTENTIAL IMPACT THAT MARY CAN HAVE FOR OUR CITY.

10:27:32 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE WITH YOU THIS

10:27:32 MORNING.

10:27:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:27:45 NUMBER 14.

10:27:46 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:27:48 MY NAME IS BRIAN CARPENTER.

10:27:52 I BECAME A TAMPA POLICE OFFICER ON THE SAME DAY THAT

10:27:53 MARY DID.

10:27:55 WE WERE IN THE SAME CLASS.

10:27:59 THROUGH MY CAREER, I HAD A VARIETY OF ASSIGNMENTS.

10:28:04 AND I RETIRED IN 2018 AFTER 25 YEARS.

10:28:07 I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO TELL YOU A

10:28:09 COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT MARY THAT MAY NOT BE ON HER

10:28:16 RESUME THAT YOU KNOW I LEARNED WHEN I CAME UP.

10:28:21 007 I WAS PROMOTED TO A DETECTIVE AND ASSIGNED TO

10:28:25 MARY'S BLIS SQUAD.

10:28:30 ON DAY ONE, SHE MADE IT CLEAR THAT SHE EXPECTED US, HER

10:28:33 DETECTIVES, TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND, TO DO THAT EXTRA

10:28:36 MILE.

10:28:41 AND TO STAY LATE WHENEVER IT WAS NEEDED AND SHE ALSO

10:28:46 EXPECTED US TO CONTINUE HONING OUR SKILLS AND DIFFERENT

10:28:48 QUALITIES.

10:28:57 ONE OF THOSE QUALITIES WAS COMMUNICATION AND SHARING

10:28:59 INFORMATION BETWEEN MEMBERS OF OUR DISTRICT.

10:29:05 NOT JUST WITH HER BUT ALSO WITH OUR STREET SQUADS OR

10:29:09 ANTI-CRIME SQUADS TO PROVIDE THEM THE INFORMATION SO

10:29:13 THEY CAN BETTER FOCUS ON THEIR EFFORTS.

10:29:16 BUT SHE DIDN'T STOP WITH THE COMMUNICATION.

10:29:20 SHE ENCOURAGED US AND HAD US SPEAK TO OUR PATROL UNITS

10:29:23 WHO PATROL OUR AREA AND ALSO WITH DETECTIVES IN OTHER

10:29:28 AREAS.

10:29:33 AND SHE DIDN'T LET US FALL TO THE WAYSIDE.

10:29:37 SHE SAID, HEY, COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR PEOPLE.

10:29:42 ON A DAILY BASIS, WE WOULD HEAR, DID YOU TALK TO YOUR

10:29:43 STREET CRIME SQUAD TODAY?

10:29:46 DID YOU TALK TO THE OFFICERS TODAY?

10:29:49 ASK THE DETECTIVES, DID YOUR DETECTIVE GET WITH YOU.

10:29:50 HAVE YOU BEEN COMMUNICATING?

10:29:52 THAT IS A BIG THING.

10:29:56 NEXT THING WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT IS THE COMPASSION

10:29:58 AND EMPATHY WITH VICTIMS.

10:30:01 BEING A CRIME VICTIM IS A TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE.

10:30:03 SOMEBODY BREAKS INTO YOUR HOME AND ROBS YOU AT

10:30:08 GUNPOINT, IT CREATES FEAR AND YOU FEEL VIOLATED.

10:30:11 MARY O'CONNOR MADE SURE THAT WE KNEW THAT AND ABLE TO

10:30:18 LOOK AT CRIMES FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE VICTIM.

10:30:21 SHE TOLD US AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE -- AND I REMEMBER

10:30:26 THAT THAT VICTIM IS SOMEBODY RELATIVE.

10:30:31 SOMEBODY'S GRANDMOTHER, GRANDFATHER, SOMEBODY'S SON.

10:30:33 SOMEBODY'S DAUGHTER.

10:30:38 AND SHE WANTED US TO TREAT THEM AS IF THAT WAS OUR

10:30:43 GRANDFATHER OR GRANDMOTHER OR RELATIVE AND LOOK AT IT

10:30:48 FROM THAT VIEWPOINT.

10:30:51 THROUGH ALL THIS MARY WAS ABLE TO GET US, OUR

10:30:52 DETECTIVES TO --

10:30:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:30:55 >> OKAY.

10:31:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 15.

10:31:07 >> MR. CHAIR, ROBERT RULES OF ORDER.

10:31:11 MR. DAWSON WILL GIVE ME THREE MINUTES.

10:31:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S ONE MINUTE.

10:31:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THOSE ARE ONLY DURING PUBLIC HEARING.

10:31:21 >> ROBERT RULES OF ORDER, I CAN'T GET EXTRA THREE

10:31:22 MINUTES?

10:31:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT FOR.

10:31:26 >> ARE YOU SURE.

10:31:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.

10:31:29 >> OKAY.

10:31:30 I AM WASTING TIME.

10:31:32 I AM GOING TO HAVE TO TALK FAST.

10:31:33 SO I HAVE MUCH TO COVER.

10:31:39 I JUST CANNOT SEE HOW IN THE WORLD WE CAN FAULT CHIEF

10:31:42 MARY O'CONNOR FOR EVERYTHING, BICYCLES.

10:31:44 1995.

10:31:49 SPIRO AGNEW WENT TO PRISON.

10:31:51 RICHARD NIXON.

10:31:52 ATTORNEY GENERAL.

10:31:53 SHE NEVER WENT TO PRISON.

10:31:57 WE SHOULD GIVE HER AN AWARD, BECAUSE SHE STOPPED A

10:32:01 THING CALLED FRAUD IN EAST TAMPA.

10:32:06 $6 OR 7 BILLION DOLLARS.

10:32:07 SHE CAME IN AND STOPPED IT.

10:32:09 PEOPLE USING PEOPLE'S SOCIAL SECURITY AND PEOPLE USING

10:32:12 PEOPLE'S NAMES AND GETTING MONEY, FRAUD.

10:32:14 WE SHOULD GIVE HER A GOLD MEDAL.

10:32:18 AS FAR AS THE BICYCLES, SHE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE

10:32:19 BICYCLES.

10:32:20 SHE WAS NOT THE CHIEF.

10:32:22 SHE WAS TAKING ORDERS.

10:32:25 WHEN THOSE BICYCLES TICKETING GOING DOWN, THE JUSTICE

10:32:29 DEPARTMENT DIDN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE TICKET WAS ABOUT.

10:32:32 THEY DIDN'T GO IN DETAIL ABOUT SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE

10:32:36 THAT BROKE INTO PEOPLE'S CARS AND STEALING BICYCLES.

10:32:37 ROBBING THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

10:32:40 QUITE NATURALLY YOU WILL GET TICKETS IN A PREDOMINANTLY

10:32:43 BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE BLACK PEOPLE STAY, BECAUSE THE

10:32:46 POPULATION IS 99% BLACK.

10:32:48 NEXT YOU WILL WRITE MORE TICKETS.

10:32:50 MARY O'CONNOR IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

10:32:51 SHE IS INNOCENT.

10:32:53 AND SHE IS QUALIFIED.

10:32:57 AND I AM GOING TO SAY THIS RIGHT HERE.

10:33:02 THE SAME MANKIND, IF A PERSON IS QUALIFIED TO DO A JOB,

10:33:06 EVEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM, BUT THEY ARE QUALIFIED TO

10:33:09 MAKE SURE YOU SAFE AT NIGHT, TO MAKE SURE YOUR FAMILY

10:33:13 CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT, AND TO MAKE SURE THIS CITY IS SAFE,

10:33:15 YOU ARE GOING TO GO AGAINST A PERSON BECAUSE YOU DON'T

10:33:17 LIKE THEM AND THEY ARE QUALIFIED FOR A JOB?

10:33:20 YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A WHOLE CITY SUFFER?

10:33:22 THE MAYOR KNOW WHAT SHE WAS DOING WHEN SHE APPOINTED

10:33:25 HER BECAUSE THE MAYOR WAS ONCE CHIEF OF POLICE.

10:33:26 SHE KNOW.

10:33:29 AND MR. BENNETT WAS ASSISTANT CHIEF.

10:33:29 HE KNOW.

10:33:30 THEY KNOW.

10:33:33 THEY KNOW WHO THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON WERE.

10:33:37 BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE HER, YOU ARE GOING IS A SAY, I

10:33:39 AM NOT GOING TO GO -- TAKING THIS PERSONAL?

10:33:42 I HAVE NOTHING PERSONAL TO GAIN FOR THIS.

10:33:43 I AM NOT A POLITICIAN.

10:33:46 A COMMON 71-YEAR-OLD MAN WHO WANTS THINGS TO GO DOWN

10:33:47 RIGHT.

10:33:48 THIS LADY HAS SUFFERED ENOUGH.

10:33:52 WE SHOULD PIN A GOLD MEDAL ON HER AND THE MAYOR BOTH.

10:33:54 BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS GOOD JOB.

10:33:58 MAYOR MARY O'CONNOR NEED TO BE THE CHIEF OF POLICE.

10:34:00 WASN'T EASY FOR A LADY BLACK OR WHITE TO BE A POLICE

10:34:03 OFFICER, BECAUSE MEN ALWAYS GOT PROMOTION OVER THEM.

10:34:06 I THINK SHE DID A TREMENDOUS GOOD JOB.

10:34:11 SO I HAVE -- I HIGHLY RECOMMEND MARY O'CONNOR.

10:34:13 SHE DOESN'T NEED TO SUFFER ANYMORE.

10:34:16 WE NEED TO PUT THE CITY ON THE MOVE AND START FIGHTING

10:34:19 CRIMES AND LET THIS FOOLISHNESS GO.

10:34:24 LEAVE MARY O'CONNOR ALONE TO WORK AND DO HER JOB, FIGHT

10:34:24 CRIME.

10:34:26 THANK YOU.

10:34:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 16.

10:34:46 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.

10:34:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.

10:34:50 >> CLARENCE JOHNSON.

10:34:53 I AM FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF TAMPA.

10:34:58 TAMPA, FLORIDA, ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WAY YONDER.

10:35:02 AS YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW MARY O'CONNOR TOO AS WELL OR

10:35:03 TOO MANY PEOPLE THAT WELL.

10:35:09 BUT WHAT I HAVE BEEN WATCHING HERE OR HEARING HERE IT

10:35:10 KIND OF AMAZES ME.

10:35:16 BECAUSE FOR ONE THING, PEOPLE WHO DO UNDERSTAND THAT

10:35:23 SHE DESERVES WHAT -- WHAT ALL THE MAYOR HAS GIVEN HER,

10:35:25 APPLIED FOR HER.

10:35:28 I THINK FOR MYSELF, BEING FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN,

10:35:32 I THINK SHE IS REAL QUALIFIED FOR THIS JOB AS I SIT

10:35:37 DOWN AND LISTEN AND LEARN FROM WHAT I AM HEARING, FROM

10:35:40 WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING.

10:35:49 AND I BELIEVE SHE IS A PERSON WITH INTEGRITY AND MORE

10:35:52 UNDERSTANDING OF THIS COUNTY, THIS TOWN.

10:35:57 BUT I DO KNOW FROM WHAT I KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW HER

10:36:02 THAT WELL, BUT I CAN SAY SHE IS QUALIFIED FOR THIS JOB.

10:36:04 THAT'S ALL I CAN TELL YOU.

10:36:05 THANK YOU.

10:36:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:36:13 NUMBER 17.

10:36:17 IF YOU HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS

10:36:20 ITEM, WE ASK YOU TO EXIT TO BRING THE OTHER SPEAKERS

10:36:30 WHO ARE DOWNSTAIRS UPSTAIRS TO SPEAK NUMBER 17.

10:36:31 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:36:33 MY NAME IS JULIA JACKSON.

10:36:38 RETIRED EDUCATOR OF OVER 15 YEARS HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH

10:36:38 COUNTY.

10:36:42 ALSO PART-TIME WRITER AND PHOTOGRAPHER FOR THE FLORIDA

10:36:43 SENTINEL BULLETIN.

10:36:51 BUT I'M HERE TODAY AS A CITIZEN OF TAMPA.

10:36:55 25 YEARS AGO I MET MARY O'CONNOR AS A COLLEGE STUDENT,

10:37:02 INTERN, THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY.

10:37:06 AS WELL AS MAYOR CASTOR, THEY WELCOMED ME IN.

10:37:10 THE OF THEM WELCOMED ME IN.

10:37:14 IT MADE IT VERY HELPFUL TO THEM.

10:37:16 IT WAS A TRYING TIME DURING THIS TIME BECAUSE TPD WAS

10:37:18 LOOKING FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS.

10:37:22 SO I WAS PUT ON THE FORCE AS A RECRUITER, AS A STUDENT

10:37:24 FROM MY OWN COLLEGE.

10:37:28 SO IT WAS VERY REWARDING MEETING AND GETTING A CHANCE

10:37:33 TO WORK IN THE TRAILS OF OUTSTANDING OFFICERS.

10:37:38 NOW WE SEEM TO RECOUNT 28 YEARS AGO OF CHIEF O'CONNOR

10:37:45 WHICH IS VERY TRIVIAL COMPARED TO WHAT IS GOING ON NOW

10:37:46 IN OUR CITY.

10:37:51 IN FACT IT IS NOT LIKE SHE IS BRAND-NEW AT TPD, YOU

10:37:51 KNOW.

10:37:52 WE HAVE TO LET IT GO.

10:37:57 CHIEF O'CONNOR HAS RECONNECTED WITH THE COMMUNITY.

10:38:00 SHE HAS ALREADY PUT HER BOOTS ON THE GROUND, SOLVING

10:38:02 COLD CASES.

10:38:04 NOT BEGINNING, SOLVING.

10:38:08 SHE UNDERSTANDS THE TAMPA CHALLENGES.

10:38:15 I FEEL WE SHOULD RESPECT THE DECISION OF MAYOR CASTOR.

10:38:17 I AM ASKING YOU TO LET IT GO.

10:38:20 I AM ASKING YOU TO LET'S GET IT ON.

10:38:21 LET'S START OVER.

10:38:27 LET'S GET TAMPA BACK IN THE GROOVE OF SOLVING CRIME.

10:38:34 PLEASE, LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND CONFIRM CHIEF O'CONNOR.

10:38:34 THANK YOU.

10:38:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.

10:38:49 NUMBER 18.

10:38:50 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:38:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME.

10:38:58 >> AUBREY PIERCE.

10:39:03 I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MARY AND JUST FROM CITY

10:39:06 OF TAMPA ON THE EAST SIDE, SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN OUT

10:39:09 HERE -- I MEAN, I AIN'T PROUD TO SAY -- I HAVE BEEN

10:39:10 INCARCERATED SEVERAL TIMES.

10:39:12 I HAVE BEEN TO PRISON SEVERAL TIMES.

10:39:15 BUT I BELIEVE THAT EVERYBODY DESERVES ANOTHER SHOT.

10:39:18 I HAVE BEEN OUT DOING GOOD AND CLEAN, YOU KNOW.

10:39:20 EVERYTHING I DID, I DID TO MYSELF.

10:39:25 I USED TO FAULT THE POLICE AND SAY THIS AND THAT, THAT

10:39:26 THEY WERE TARGETING ME.

10:39:29 BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, I HAVE BEEN OUT EIGHT YEARS.

10:39:31 I AIN'T BEEN IN NO TROUBLE.

10:39:32 I HAVE GOT A GOOD JOB.

10:39:35 THINGS WERE BAD ON THE EAST SIDE.

10:39:39 LIKE SHOOTING, BREAKING INTO HOUSES -- AIN'T NONE OF

10:39:39 THAT.

10:39:41 MY MAMA WALKS TO THE STORE NOW.

10:39:44 WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HER GETTING MUGGED.

10:39:45 SHE CAN GO TO THE STORE.

10:39:48 SHE GOES TO THE STORE NOW EVERY DAY AND RELAX AND SIT

10:39:50 ON THE PORCH.

10:39:51 DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY OF GUNSHOTS.

10:39:53 WE SEE THE POLICE.

10:39:54 MORE INVOLVEMENT.

10:39:57 THEY ARE STOPPING AND ASKING QUESTIONS.

10:39:58 MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS ALL RIGHT.

10:40:02 WHAT SHE DID IN THE PAST, EVERYBODY ALREADY KNEW THAT.

10:40:05 WE SHOULDN'T BE YELLING THAT.

10:40:12 SHE ALREADY HAD DONE -- SHE TOOK FROM HER OWN PEERS

10:40:13 WHEN SHE COME BACK.

10:40:15 THE FORCE PRESSURE TO COME BACK AND LOOK EVERYBODY IN

10:40:17 THE FACE AND THEY KNOW YOU MESSED UP.

10:40:20 SO SHE -- SHE SUCCUMBED THAT.

10:40:24 AND WE SHOULD ALL LOOK BEYOND THAT AS A COMMUNITY AND A

10:40:24 CITY.

10:40:28 WE SHOULD LOOK PAST THAT AND TRY TO, LIKE, MAKE THIS

10:40:29 RIGHT FOR US.

10:40:31 BECAUSE I NEED -- I NEED SOMEBODY LIKE HER.

10:40:32 I WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

10:40:34 I AM ROOTING FOR SOMEBODY LIKE HER.

10:40:38 BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE NOW THE CITY IS A LITTLE SAFER ON

10:40:41 THE EAST SIDE, AT LEAST WHERE I AM AT, A LITTLE SAFER.

10:40:45 I SEE MORE POLICE ACTIVITY AND I GRATEFULLY APPRECIATE

10:40:49 THAT MY MOM, SISTER AND SON CAN WALK OUT THERE.

10:40:52 GO OUTSIDE AND PLAY AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT

10:40:53 THE GUNSHOTS.

10:40:58 PEOPLE GET SHOT EVERY DAY 15TH TO 26TH.

10:41:01 POLICE SITTING -- LETTING THEM PARTY OUT, BUT NOW YOU

10:41:03 GOT TO KEEP IT MOVING.

10:41:04 NOTHING GOING ON TO BE HERE.

10:41:06 YOU DON'T LIVE HERE AND YOU ARE HERE CAUSING A

10:41:09 DISTURBANCE AND INSIDE OF TOWN, WE GOT THE CRIME RATE

10:41:10 UP.

10:41:12 NOTHING WAS GOING ON UNTIL NOW.

10:41:13 I APPRECIATE IT.

10:41:14 YOU HEAR WHAT I AM SAYING.

10:41:17 I AIN'T -- I JUST APPRECIATE WHAT IS GOING ON FOR MY

10:41:21 CITY AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

10:41:23 SINCE SHE HAS BEEN APPOINTED OR ELECTED OR WHATEVER.

10:41:28 YOU KNOW, SO I JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

10:41:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.

10:41:43 >> YOU ARE ALL RIGHT.

10:41:44 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:41:48 NEXT SPEAKER IS NUMBER 19, YVETTE FLYNN.

10:41:49 GO AHEAD.

10:41:50 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

10:41:52 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.

10:41:54 MY NAME IS YVETTE FLYNN.

10:42:00 I AM A RETIRED HISPANIC POLICE MAJOR FROM THE TAMPA

10:42:01 POLICEMEN.

10:42:04 I SERVED 21 YEARS TO THIS COMMUNION.

10:42:07 AND DURING THIS TIME, I SERVED WITH SOME OF THE FINEST

10:42:10 MEN AND WOMEN ON THIS DEPARTMENT.

10:42:15 I HAVE KNOWN AND WORKED CLOSELY WITH CHIEF-SELECT MARY

10:42:19 O'CONNOR FOR THE MAJORITY OF MY CAREER.

10:42:22 CHIEF O'CONNOR IS INTELLIGENT.

10:42:23 SHE IS CAPABLE.

10:42:28 AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, SHE HAS A SERVANT'S HEART.

10:42:33 SHE WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD COMMUNITY RELATIONS, WHICH

10:42:37 NOT ONLY BENEFIT THE HARD-WORKING POLICE OFFICERS AND

10:42:43 SUPERVISORS OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT MOST

10:42:47 IMPORTANTLY, ALL RESIDENTS.

10:42:48 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:42:53 THEY HAVE AN INHERENT RIGHT TO BE HEARD.

10:42:57 CONCERNS TO BE ADDRESSED AS IT PERTAINS TO PUBLIC

10:43:00 SAFETY AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MEN AND WOMEN OF

10:43:03 THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

10:43:10 I AM HONORED TODAY TO SELECT MARY O'CONNOR TO SUPPORT

10:43:14 YOUR STATUS TO CHIEF TO THIS DEPARTMENT.

10:43:18 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YEARS YOU GAVE TO THIS

10:43:21 DEPARTMENT AND THE DEDICATION, NOT ONLY TO THE

10:43:24 OFFICERS, SUPERVISORS, OFFICERS LIKE --

10:43:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAN PLEASE SPEAK IN OUR DIRECTION

10:43:28 BECAUSE OF THE MICROPHONE.

10:43:30 >> YES, OF COURSE, I AM SORRY.

10:43:31 I WANT TO APOLOGIZE.

10:43:36 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTOOD WE ARE HONORED

10:43:41 TO SUPPORT HER FOR POLICE CHIEF AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

10:43:46 THAT SHE WILL DO A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH THE RESIDENTS OF

10:43:48 POLICE DEPARTMENT AS YOU HAVE HEARD THE MEMBERS WHO ARE

10:43:51 RETIRED FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STATE, HER

10:43:56 DEDICATION AND SERVICE TO ALL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.

10:43:59 AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EACH MEMBER ON THE CITY

10:44:02 COUNCIL FOR ALL YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:44:05 AND THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR THIS TIME.

10:44:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:44:12 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, WHILE SHE WAS WALKING.

10:44:13 YVETTE FLYNN.

10:44:16 THE CITY OF TAMPA LOVES THE FLYNN FAMILY AND YOU ARE

10:44:18 ALWAYS IN OUR PRAYERS.

10:44:19 GOD BLESS YOU.

10:44:19 >> THANK YOU.

10:44:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP A LIVING LEGENDS, SENATOR

10:44:25 JOYNER.

10:44:32 >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS ARTHENIA JOYNER AND

10:44:35 LIFETIME RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND SERVED AS

10:44:40 YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND SENATOR FOR 16 YEARS IN

10:44:41 THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE.

10:44:44 I'M HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT CHIEF MARY ELIZABETH O'CONNOR

10:44:49 WHO WAS APPOINTED LAST MONTH BY MAYOR CASTOR AND IS

10:44:54 HERE TODAY FOR CONFIRMATION BY THIS AUGUST BODY.

10:44:57 THROUGHOUT MY LIFETIME, I HAVE LEARNED THAT COURAGE

10:44:58 TAKES MANY FORMS.

10:45:02 IT IS THE STUFF WE SEE WHEN A POLICE OFFICER ROLLS OUT

10:45:11 ON PATROL WITH NO GUARANTEE THAT HE OR SHE WILL RETURN

10:45:18 ALIVE OR PLACES THEIR BODY BETWEEN A CIVILIAN OF A

10:45:22 FIREFIGHT AND RUSHES TO DANGER, NOT THE OTHER

10:45:22 DIRECTION.

10:45:29 ALSO, A COURAGE WHEN A WOMAN OR MAN LAYS BEAR THE PATH

10:45:32 THEY TRAVELED TO SUCCEED TODAY'S SUCCESSES AND THE

10:45:35 CHALLENGES THEY OVERCAME TO GET WHERE THEY ARE TODAY.

10:45:40 FOR ALL OF THESE REASONS AND MORE, CHIEF O'CONNOR IS

10:45:43 ONE COURAGEOUS WOMAN.

10:45:46 IT WERE NOT FOR SECOND CHANCES, I WOULD HAVE HAD A

10:45:53 DIFFICULT TIME IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE RISING TO THE MANY

10:45:56 POSITIONS I HAD THE HONOR OF ACHIEVING.

10:46:01 I WAS ARRESTED TWICE WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE.

10:46:07 AND MY SECOND ARREST RESULTED IN A 90-DAY SENTENCE AND

10:46:14 A FINE OF $500 FOR PROTESTING SEGREGATION.

10:46:18 I SERVED TWO WEEKS IN THE LEON COUNTY JAIL.

10:46:24 AND FINALLY, THE FINE WAS PAID, PRO RATA, AND I WAS

10:46:26 RELEASED.

10:46:31 THOSE TWO INCARCERATIONS COULD POSSIBLY HAVE BLOCKED MY

10:46:32 FLORIDA BAR ADMISSION.

10:46:37 COULD HAVE DERAILED MY LEGAL CAREER AND HAMPERED ANY

10:46:41 FUTURE POLITICAL AMBITIONS THAT I HAD.

10:46:45 BUT THE FLORIDA BAR UNDERSTOOD THE CRITICAL IMPORTANCE

10:46:52 OF SECOND CHANCES.

10:46:55 SOMETHING THAT SOME PEOPLE HERE WANT TO PERPETUALLY

10:47:00 DENY IN ORDER TO BLOCK THE CONFIRMATION OF CHIEF

10:47:00 O'CONNOR.

10:47:03 THOSE CONDUCTING THIS DISCREDITING CAMPAIGN SO

10:47:09 CONFIDENT IN THEIR OWN PAST, THEIR OWN PRISTINE

10:47:16 RECORDS, THEIR OWN, THAT THEY ARE WILLING ASSAULT HER

10:47:20 CREDENTIALS AND UNDERMINE HER CONFIRMATION?

10:47:22 WE HAVE TODAY AN OUTSTANDING WOMAN OF CHARACTER,

10:47:24 COURAGE AND INTEGRITY.

10:47:27 MORE THAN DEMONSTRATED QUALIFICATION, BRAVERY AND HER

10:47:30 LOVE OF THE DEPARTMENT AND THE OFFICERS SHE COMMANDS.

10:47:32 SHE HAS MORE THAN EARNED OUR RESPECT.

10:47:37 AND SHE DESERVES HER CONFIRMATION.

10:47:43 SO IN CLOSING I ASK OF YOU, AS WE ARE ASKED IN THE

10:48:00 BIBLE, LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE

10:48:01 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:48:03 MY NAME IS DARYL PRITCHARD.

10:48:07 I AM A RETIRED CITY OF TAMPA POLICE DETECTIVE SERGEANT.

10:48:10 I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO MR. GUDES UP THERE.

10:48:13 IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

10:48:17 IN MY CAREER, I WAS A -- A SERGEANT.

10:48:19 I WORKED PRIMARILY EAST TAMPA.

10:48:25 I ALSO WAS AN ACADEMY INSTRUCTOR AND ONE OF MY -- ONE

10:48:29 OF THE PEOPLE I HAD THE HONOR OF INSTRUCTING MR. GUDES

10:48:33 WHEN HE WORE A YOUNGER MAN'S CLOTHES.

10:48:34 GOOD TO SEE HIM AGAIN.

10:48:39 I'M HERE TODAY TO VERY PROUDLY SUPPORT THE NOMINATION

10:48:43 OF MARY O'CONNOR TO THE POSITION OF CHIEF.

10:48:53 IN MY CAREER AS I SAID I WORKED PREDOMINANTLY A STREET

10:49:00 POSITION; HOWEVER, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS I SERVED AS

10:49:03 A POSITION IN THE CRIMES BUREAU OF TAMPA POLICE

10:49:03 DEPARTMENT.

10:49:05 PRIMARILY I WAS THE SERGEANT IN CHARGE OF THE ROBBERY

10:49:08 SQUAD.

10:49:15 IN THAT, I ALSO OVERSAW THE ECONOMIC CRIMES UNIT.

10:49:18 A MARY WAS ASSIGNED AS DETECTIVE TO THAT UNIT.

10:49:26 BECAUSE OF THE DYNAMICS, I HAD TO HAVE A SECOND IN

10:49:27 COMMAND OF THAT UNIT.

10:49:34 I COULDN'T SPEND TIME NECESSARY TO BE A FULL-TIME

10:49:35 SUPERVISOR FOR THAT UNIT.

10:49:38 IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION.

10:49:45 WE HAD A FLUX OF PEOPLE LEAVING, SENIOR PEOPLE.

10:49:48 IT WAS A VERY TOUGH DECISION AND I CHOSE MARY O'CONNOR

10:49:54 TO BE MY SECOND IN COMMAND.

10:49:57 IT WAS TOUGH BECAUSE SHE WAS THE JUNIOR DETECTIVE OF

10:49:59 THAT UNIT.

10:50:08 SHE HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE 15 YEARS SENIOR TO HER AND I

10:50:12 WAS GOING TO CHOOSE HER TO OVERSEE THEM.

10:50:17 SO WHEN I TALKED TO HER ABOUT IT, SHE WAS NATURALLY A

10:50:25 LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT.

10:50:28 BUT SHE ASSIMILATED THAT RESPONSIBILITY IN AN AMAZING

10:50:29 WAY.

10:50:31 HOW I DID CHOOSE MARY O'CONNOR?

10:50:38 I TAKE THOSE DECISIONS VERY SERIOUSLY.

10:50:41 I LOOKED AT EVERY INVESTIGATION SHE WAS INVOLVED IN.

10:50:46 I READ EVERY REPORT THAT SHE WAS ASSIGNED.

10:50:49 I ASSIGNED THOSE REPORTS TO HER.

10:50:55 I SAW EVERY SUPPLEMENT SHE DID TO EVERY ONE OF THOSE

10:50:56 INVESTIGATIONS.

10:51:02 I NOTICED THAT SHE CONTACTED EVERY VICTIM OF EVERY

10:51:06 CRIME SHE WAS ASSIGNED TO INVESTIGATE.

10:51:09 PERSONALLY.

10:51:11 SHE REACHED OUT TO THEM.

10:51:13 ALSO DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, SHE INITIATED.

10:51:21 SHE INITIATED ON HER OWN SOME PROACTIVE PLANS TO

10:51:26 COUNTERACT CRIME IN THE COMMUNITY.

10:51:30 AS A LEADER ON THAT UNIT --

10:51:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TWO SECONDS --

10:51:38 >> AS A LEADER ON THAT UNIT, SHE WAS EXEMPLARY.

10:51:40 SHE LED THOSE PEOPLE.

10:51:43 SHE DID A GREAT JOB.

10:51:47 AND I WAS REALLY PROUD OF THAT.

10:51:48 WHEN THIS NASTY THING --

10:51:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

10:51:51 I GOT TO CUT YOU OFF.

10:51:52 THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

10:51:55 YOUR TIME IS OFF.

10:51:56 >> I WILL DO IT REAL QUICK.

10:51:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GAVE YOU -- I HAVE TO MOVE ON.

10:52:00 BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

10:52:02 NEXT SPEAKER.

10:52:04 NUMBER 22.

10:52:05 I GOT TO MOVE ON, DALE.

10:52:08 I GAVE YOU A FEW EXTRA SECONDS.

10:52:09 WE HAVE CERTAIN RULES HERE.

10:52:10 UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE TO MOVE ON.

10:52:13 >> ALL RIGHT, I WILL MENTION.

10:52:14 I WILL CONCLUDE.

10:52:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN'T LET YOU SPEAK.

10:52:19 NUMBER 22, KEVIN HOWELL.

10:52:20 >> THANK YOU.

10:52:22 THANK YOU, PLEASE SUPPORT MARY O'CONNOR FOR CHIEF OF

10:52:33 POLICE.

10:52:34 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:52:37 MY NAME IS KEVIN HOWELL.

10:52:41 FIRST OF ALL, SHE IS PROBABLY THE HARDEST-WORKING

10:52:42 PERSON.

10:52:44 THINK NEEDS TO GO FORWARD HERE.

10:52:48 COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE.

10:52:51 I, TOO, AS MANY PEOPLE BEFORE RETIRED FROM THE POLICE

10:52:51 DEPARTMENT.

10:52:54 THIS ISN'T ABOUT ME, WHAT I DID OR ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

10:52:57 THIS ISN'T ABOUT MY HISTORY OR REALLY WHAT ANYBODY

10:52:58 THINKS OF ME.

10:53:04 I KNOW THAT THIS PROCESS IS REALLY TOO POINTED THE WAY

10:53:05 I SEE IT.

10:53:08 THIS IS MORE OF AN ATTACK ON AN INDIVIDUAL AND ABOUT

10:53:10 THE FACT THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE WHOLE PROCESS -- THE

10:53:12 PROCESS HAS BEEN THE PROBLEM.

10:53:14 I WOULD HOPE IT WASN'T THE PERSON.

10:53:18 IN THIS SITUATION, YOU -- YOU TAKEN SOMEBODY WHO HAS AN

10:53:19 EXEMPLARY CAREER.

10:53:22 A SPOT ON HER RECORD.

10:53:23 THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

10:53:25 IT HAS NEVER BEEN HIDDEN.

10:53:28 I THINK WHAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT SPOT ON

10:53:30 THE RECORD IS THAT MANY PEOPLE SITTING HERE TODAY CAN

10:53:33 NEVER SAY THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD SOMETHING THAT HAS COME

10:53:35 UP IN THEIR PAST.

10:53:38 SOMETHING -- NO MATTER HOW MINOR OR MAJOR IT WAS AS

10:53:43 MISS JOYNER POINTED OUT THAT WE NEED TO LEARN FROM.

10:53:46 SOME OF THESE ARE STORIES THAT MAYBE WE HAVEN'T GOT

10:53:50 CAUGHT DOING AND SHARE WITH OUR CLOSEST CALF DANTS AND

10:53:53 MAYBE LAUGH ABOUT IT, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO

10:53:56 SAY THEY LIVED THROUGH THAT, PRESENT THAT FORWARD,

10:53:58 LEARN FROM THAT, AND THEN BECOME A MORE STELLAR

10:54:01 INDIVIDUAL IN SOCIETY?

10:54:04 YOU HEARD THAT HAVE SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE HERE.

10:54:07 I HAD THE HONOR WITH EVERY ONE OF THE OFFICERS SPOKE

10:54:10 AND RETIRED TO WORK WITH THEM, FOR THEM, BESIDE THEM,

10:54:12 TRAINED THEM, WHAT HAVE YOU.

10:54:14 AND EVERY SINGLE ONE IS EXEMPLARY.

10:54:16 I THINK HIGHLY OF BUTCH.

10:54:19 A WRAVL WONDERFUL INDIVIDUAL AND A GREAT COP TOO.

10:54:23 MARY HAS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY

10:54:23 NEEDS.

10:54:27 BRINGS TO FORTH LISTENING TO CITY COUNCIL.

10:54:30 THE CHIEF WILL NOT COME AND BE ARGUMENTATIVE.

10:54:33 NOT HERE TO YELL AT YOU BUT WILL WORK WITH YOU.

10:54:35 THAT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND TOO.

10:54:36 I WROTE THIS WONDERFUL THING.

10:54:39 I AM NOT GOING TO READ IT BECAUSE IT IS MORE ABOUT,

10:54:41 AGAIN, THE PROCESS AND WHO THE CHARACTER IS.

10:54:43 MY FAMILY LIVES IN THIS CITY.

10:54:47 MY FAMILY -- MY WIFE'S FAMILY IS EMBEDDED IN THE CITY

10:54:49 FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

10:54:51 MANY OF YOU ON THE COUNCIL KNOW MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT

10:54:55 MY FAMILY IS -- THEY ARE WELL-RESPECTED IN THIS

10:54:56 COMMUNITY WELL.

10:55:00 BUT I WANT TO YOU UNDERSTAND WITH MARY THAT ONE OF THE

10:55:06 KEY PARTS HERE IS THAT WE -- WE LEARN FROM MISTAKES.

10:55:07 AND THAT HAS BEEN BEAT.

10:55:08 YOU.

10:55:10 BUT REMEMBER THAT THE REASON BEHIND SOME OF THOSE

10:55:12 MISTAKES IS WE LEARN FROM THE LESSONS THAT WE

10:55:14 DEVELOPMENTS KNOW WHAT DROVE THEM.

10:55:17 WE DON'T KNOW THE FACT THAT A DECISION -- A POOR

10:55:20 DECISION THAT WAS MADE MONTHS AFTER AN INCIDENT WHERE

10:55:24 SHE HAD TO TELL AN OFFICER THAT EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO

10:55:27 BE OKAY NOT BELIEVING IT HERSELF.

10:55:31 I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE THAT I WAS PERSON.

10:55:33 AND SHE WAS THE ONE SAYING SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW

10:55:35 IF SHE BELIEVED.

10:55:38 BUT THAT I BELIEVE DROVE HER TO A POINT WHERE SHE MAY

10:55:40 HAVE MADE A POOR DECISION.

10:55:42 BUT SHE HAS LEARNED FROM THAT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE

10:55:43 THAT THIS COUNCIL MOVE FORWARD.

10:55:45 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

10:55:46 I APPRECIATE IT.

10:55:47 YOU HAVE A NICE DAY.

10:55:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, KEVIN.

10:55:52 COUNCIL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW KEVIN'S STORY OR NOT.

10:55:55 I REMEMBER THAT NIGHT.

10:55:58 YOU REMEMBER THAT NIGHT.

10:56:00 I SAY THANK GOD.

10:56:04 BECAUSE KEVIN REALLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE, GENTLEMEN.

10:56:06 KEVIN SHOULDN'T BE HERE.

10:56:08 HIM AND MIKE.

10:56:12 BUT GOD CHOSE FOR THEM TO STILL BE HERE WITH US.

10:56:14 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, BECAUSE THAT

10:56:16 WAS ONE HELL OF A NIGHT.

10:56:16 KEVIN WAS SHOT.

10:56:18 SHOT VERY BADLY.

10:56:20 SO WAS MIKE.

10:56:23 MIKE NEEDED THIS COMMUNITY SO BAD TO GIVE BLOOD --

10:56:26 BECAUSE NORMALLY WHEN YOU GIVE BLOOD, THE HOSPITAL AT

10:56:28 A CERTAIN POINT THEY STOP BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT THE

10:56:31 BLOOD CAN BE UTILIZED FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO SAVE THEIR

10:56:32 LIVES.

10:56:35 BUT THIS COMMUNITY CAME THROUGH FOR BOTH THESE

10:56:37 GENTLEMEN AND GAVE BLOOD CONTINUOUSLY SO THEY COULD

10:56:38 LIVE.

10:56:40 I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.

10:56:41 THANK YOU.

10:56:42 >> I APPRECIATE IT.

10:56:46 MORE ABOUT THE CITY AND ITS PEOPLE.

10:56:51 ITS CONSTITUENTS THE PEOPLE WE DO IT FOR.

10:56:53 THE PLEASURE HAS BEEN MINE.

10:56:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:56:56 WE WILL MOVE ON.

10:56:58 NUMBER 23.

10:57:00 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:57:02 MY NAME IS SIMON CANASI.

10:57:05 I AM THE FATHER OF A FIRST RESPONDER FOR TAMPA FIRE AND

10:57:09 RESCUE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE FRIENDS OF TAMPA FIRE

10:57:12 FIGHTERS, WHERE I SERVE WITH CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP, WHO

10:57:18 BY THE WAY, WAS APPOINTED BY MAYOR JANE CASTOR AND IT

10:57:19 HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE APPOINTMENT.

10:57:22 FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE

10:57:24 OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU AND SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF

10:57:26 MARY O'CONNOR.

10:57:30 MOST OF YOU -- MOST OF YOU KNOW ME VERY WELL AND KNOW

10:57:34 TWO THINGS ABOUT ME, I LOVE MY CITY AND I PULL NO

10:57:35 PUNCHES.

10:57:39 LET ME BEGIN BY TELLING YOU WHEN REUBEN DELGADO DID NOT

10:57:42 GET THE APPOINTMENT I WAS EXTREME WILL HE DISAPPOINTED

10:57:44 TO SAY THE LEAST.

10:57:48 THE MAYOR KNEW OF MY DISAPPOINTMENT AND REACHED OUT TO

10:57:53 ME AS A LEADER OF THE HISPANIC TO JUSTIFY HER POSITION.

10:57:57 I RESPECTED IT BECAUSE SHE WAS JUAN CHIEF OF POLICE AND

10:58:00 WELL VERSED IN WHAT IT TAKES TO BE THE CHIEF OF POLICE

10:58:01 AND WHO AM I TO QUESTION IT.

10:58:05 OUR MAYOR WAS NOT JUST ELECTED IN 2019, IT WAS A

10:58:06 MANDATE.

10:58:08 THE VICTOR GOES THE SPOILS.

10:58:12 NO EGREGIOUS REASON NOT TO CONFIRM THIS APPOINTMENT.

10:58:17 I HEARD LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN THE PROCESS AND ASK YOU

10:58:19 TO LOOK INWARD WOULD YOU HAVE QUESTIONED THE PROCESS

10:58:23 SHOULD REUBEN DELGADO.

10:58:26 I HEARD OF THE INCIDENT IN 1995, 28 YEARS AGO BETWEEN A

10:58:30 25-YEAR-OLD YOUNG WOMAN WITH A MOMENTARILY LAPSE IN

10:58:34 JUDGMENT AND SINCE LED A EXEMPLARY LIFE AS A LAW

10:58:36 ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, WIFE AND MOTHER.

10:58:40 I JUDGE PEOPLE BY THE TOTALITY OF THEIR MERITS, NOT BY

10:58:43 AN ISOLATE INCIDENT AND I WOULD HOPE THIS COUNCIL DOES

10:58:43 THE SAME.

10:58:46 A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO I, ALONG WITH OTHER COMMUNITY

10:58:50 LEADERS, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET MARY O'CONNOR FOR

10:58:55 LUNCH AT ACACCITORE'S AND SONS IN ARMENIA IN THE HEART

10:58:59 OF THE HISPANIC DISTRICT OF WEST TAMPA.

10:59:03 SHE WILL TELL YOU HERSELF WE PULLED NO PUNCHES.

10:59:06 HER RESPONSES WERE FORTHRIGHT AND WE FOUND HER

10:59:07 ENGAGING.

10:59:14 WE FELT THIS A PERSON READY TO LEAD.

10:59:18 I SPEAK FOR EVERYONE THAT DAY THAT WE SUPPORT.

10:59:23 THE TAMPA BAY TIMES ENCOURAGE HER NOMINATION.

10:59:26 I FULLY BELIEVE THAT REUBEN DELGADO WILL BE STANDING

10:59:28 BEFORE YOU FOR HIS NOMINATION SOME DAY.

10:59:31 HE IS A CLASS ACT AND WORTHY.

10:59:32 TODAY IS NOT THE DAY.

10:59:36 TODAY IS ABOUT MARY O'CONNOR, IRONICALLY ENOUGH ON ST.

10:59:38 PATRICK'S DAY.

10:59:40 THIS IS A GAME OF CHESS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TIME.

10:59:44 WE NEED A POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO NEEDS ITS LEADERSHIP IN

10:59:45 PLACE.

10:59:50 I WATCHED YOU EXERCISE STATESMANSHIP OVER POLITICS ON

10:59:54 MANY ISSUES AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.

10:59:57 A MOMENT FOR STATESMENSHIP.

11:00:00 IT TELLS TO YOU ALWAYS DO WHAT IS DECENT AND NOT

11:00:01 NECESSARILY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

11:00:04 IT IS NEVER THE WRONG THING TO DO AND LUCKILY FOR YOU

11:00:08 IN THAT CASE THE RIGHT AND DECENT THING TO DO.

11:00:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:00:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.

11:00:21 NUMBER 24.

11:00:25 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, BRIAN D. FREY.

11:00:28 AS I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF KNOWING MANY OF YOU, I AM A

11:00:30 NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY LEADER AND HIS HAVE THE

11:00:32 PRIVILEGE AND HONOR OF KNOWING SO MANY OF THESE

11:00:34 WONDERFUL FOLKS FROM THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT BEHIND

11:00:35 ME.

11:00:41 I WAS AS DISAPPOINTED THAT BUTCH DELGADO WASN'T

11:00:44 APPOINTED, BUT I WILL SAY THIS.

11:00:49 MY ADMIRATION AND RESPECT FOR HIM, FOR LEE BERCAW,

11:00:53 MAJOR MAKE STOUT AND THE ENTIRE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT

11:00:58 FOR WHAT THEY DO AND WHAT THEY DO WITH SO WELL FOR OUR

11:00:59 COMMUNITY IS UNWAVERING.

11:01:02 I DON'T HAVE WITTY ANTIDOTES ABOUT MARY O'CONNOR.

11:01:04 I DID READ A LOT ABOUT THIS LADY.

11:01:08 AND SHE WAS THE DETECTIVE-SERGEANT IN DISTRICT 2 WHERE

11:01:11 I LIVE IN ARGUABLY IN PROBABLY THE LARGEST REDUCTION IN

11:01:14 VIOLENT CRIME IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY.

11:01:18 I KNOW THAT SHE IS AN ADVOCATE FOR VICTIMS OF VIOLENT

11:01:20 CRIME AND VICTIMS OF CRIME PERIOD.

11:01:23 MY INTERACTION WITH MARY ACTUALLY THE FIRST TIME WAS

11:01:28 THIS PAST SATURDAY WHEN OUR CITY HAD THE WONDERFUL

11:01:31 FORETHOUGHT TO HOST A NEIGHBORHOOD RETREAT OF ALL

11:01:33 NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

11:01:36 AN HONORABLE TIME BE ALL TOGETHER.

11:01:40 AND MARY THANKFULLY WAS THE LAST PERSON THAT TOOK US

11:01:46 FROM THAT MEETING OUT BACK INTO OUR CITY.

11:01:48 WHAT A WAY TO FINISH.

11:01:52 A WONDERFUL MEETING WITH SOMEONE WHO TRULY SHOWED HER

11:01:57 PASSION AND WHO TRULY SHOWED HOW DEDICATED SHE WAS TO

11:01:59 OUR CITY AND I HAVE TO TELL THAT YOU EVERY SINGLE

11:02:02 PERSON IN THAT ROOM I WOULD HAVE TO THINK THOUGHT THE

11:02:04 VERY SAME THING THINK THAT DID.

11:02:09 OUR CITY, OUR NATION, OUR WORLD HAS BEEN RIDDLED WITH

11:02:13 DEVISIVENESS SO INCH THESE LAST TWO YEARS AND SOMETIMES

11:02:14 IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS.

11:02:16 NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO CONTINUE THAT.

11:02:22 NOW IS THE TIME TO AFFIRM THIS LADY WHO HAS RISEN IN

11:02:25 THE RANKS BOTH LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY AND PROVEN

11:02:26 HERSELF.

11:02:29 THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PERSON IN THIS ROOM WHO HAS NOT

11:02:32 BEEN GIVEN THE SECOND CHANCE OF SOMEHOW IN THEIR LIFE.

11:02:36 AND I THINK WHAT WE DO WITH THOSE SECOND CHANCES IS HOW

11:02:38 WE ARE JUDGED FOR OUR FUTURE.

11:02:41 AND I THINK THERE IS NO PERSON BETTER THAN HAS CARRY

11:02:46 AUDITOR MUCH OR A BATON AND AN OLYMPIC RACE TO DO

11:02:50 BETTER FOR HERSELF, HER CITY AND THE THAN MARY

11:02:50 O'CONNOR.

11:02:53 I ASK THAT YOU GOD BLESS NEW YOUR DECISION.

11:02:54 GOD BLESS OUR CITY.

11:02:56 AND GOD BLESS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

11:02:57 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

11:02:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, BRIAN.

11:03:14 NUMBER 25.

11:03:15 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

11:03:18 THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S DECISION

11:03:21 WAS FINAL IN THE CHARTER.

11:03:24 THE CITY ATTORNEY IS FINAL.

11:03:25 LEGAL OPINION.

11:03:27 DON'T MATTER.

11:03:30 THE LADY IS THE CHIEF.

11:03:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOUR NAME, SIR.

11:03:36 >> CONSULT, BUSINESS ENGINEER.

11:03:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE KNOW YOU JOE ROBINSON.

11:03:41 WE NEED IT FOR THE RECORD.

11:03:42 >> JOE ROBINSON.

11:03:45 JOSEPH ROBINSON.

11:03:48 JOE ROBINSON FBI NAME.

11:03:51 VICE-CHAIR OF THE CAC, SECOND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE

11:03:53 NAACP.

11:04:00 TAXPAYER, SACRED HEART CATHOLIC CHURCH AND DIE HARD

11:04:02 IOWA HAWKEYE FAN.

11:04:06 I CAN'T WAIT TO GET TO THE GAME AND THEN I WILL BE

11:04:09 CELEBRATING MY BIRTHDAY WITH MY DAUGHTER.

11:04:11 DELGADO, THANK YOU.

11:04:13 WEST TAMPA LOVE YOU.

11:04:15 BERCAW, WE LOVE YOU.

11:04:18 JOHN BENNETT, THANKS FOR A HAVING LUNCH WITH ME, MAN.

11:04:20 LISTEN, LET'S MOVE ON.

11:04:22 THIS THING IS A DEAD HORSE.

11:04:23 Y'ALL HAVE A ELECTION TO RUN.

11:04:25 YOU HAVE ONE YEAR TO GET BACK.

11:04:26 YOU HAVE TO APPOINT ANOTHER PERSON.

11:04:28 I MIGHT PUT MY NAME IN.

11:04:30 I AM TELLING ON TV NOW.

11:04:31 KEEP IT REAL.

11:04:33 YOU NEED SOMEBODY THAT KNOW KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON.

11:04:35 I AM TELLING YOU RIGHT UP FRONT.

11:04:38 YOU CAN'T THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER.

11:04:42 WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING ON HANNA.

11:04:46 GUIDO, YOU SEE ME AT CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY.

11:04:48 CHARLIE YOU KNOW I AM ON THE WEST SIDE.

11:04:50 JOE CITRO, COME ON NOW.

11:04:52 CARLSON, COME ON, MAN.

11:04:55 YOU KNOW I AM KEEPING IT REAL BECAUSE THE FBI IS RIGHT

11:04:56 HERE LOOKING.

11:04:57 THIS LADY HAS EXPERIENCE.

11:05:00 SHE MIGHT SAVE YOU, RIGHT, JOHN.

11:05:06 LISTEN, I HEAR ALL OF THIS -- GRANT IT BACK -- BRADY

11:05:06 BACK.

11:05:07 BRADY BACK.

11:05:08 LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.

11:05:10 LET'S MOVE ON FROM THERE.

11:05:11 THE LAST THING -- I HAVE ANOTHER MINUTE.

11:05:12 IT IS MY BIRTHDAY.

11:05:15 I AM COMING DOWN ON MY BIRTHDAY.

11:05:19 SUPPOSED TO SHALL TALKING ABOUT HANNA AVENUE.

11:05:21 YOU MOVED THAT TO THE 31ST.

11:05:24 I'M FINE -- THIS IS MY BIRTHDAY.

11:05:26 I WILL TELL YOU HOW SERIOUS THIS IS.

11:05:28 I DON'T NORMALLY COME DOWN HERE.

11:05:31 I HAVE MY HAT ON AND READY TO PARTY.

11:05:33 DWI -- SOMEBODY PICK ME UP NOW.

11:05:35 BUT I WANT TO KEEP IT REAL.

11:05:37 AND I WANT TO KEEP IT REAL.

11:05:41 REMEMBER THIS.

11:05:43 THE FORTUNE FAVORS THE BRAVE.

11:05:51 I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU THAT, FORTUNE BENEFITS THE

11:05:52 BRAVE.

11:05:54 DON'T PLAYER HATING.

11:05:54 PLAYER HATING OUT THERE.

11:05:56 I AM TALKING STREET.

11:05:59 PLAYER HATERS KEEP PLAYING HATE.

11:06:00 THEY HAVE PLAYER HATERS OUT THERE.

11:06:03 THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON BUT THEY WANT TO BE

11:06:03 IMPORTANT, OKAY.

11:06:05 THEY WANT TO BE IMPORTANT.

11:06:10 GET OUT HERE AND DO SOMETHING AND YOU CAN GET A TRAIL

11:06:13 BLAZER AWARD FROM CITY COUNCIL.

11:06:14 LET'S BE REAL.

11:06:16 LET'S CUT THIS NONSENSE OUT.

11:06:19 WHEN I LEAVE HERE, I AM GOING TO HIT IT AND PROBABLY

11:06:20 WAKE UP IN THE MORNING FEELING IT.

11:06:24 AND I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR AND I WANT TO THANK ALL

11:06:27 OUR IRISH.

11:06:33 A LOT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW MY GRANDFATHER WAS SCOTTISH.

11:06:36 AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE ON MY BIRTHDAY, MR.

11:06:37 GUDES.

11:06:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOLDS THE RECORD OF TRACK AT TAMPA

11:06:40 CATHOLIC.

11:06:44 >> 9.8.

11:06:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 9.8.

11:06:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 26.

11:07:02 >> HELLO I AM SOVEREIGN DESPOT KING QUEEN KING

11:07:08 JOHNNY AMERICA YAHWEH YAHIM SIAM.

11:07:13 AND I AM KING PRINCE HARRY'S CHILD.

11:07:16 NOW LET ME EXPLAIN THIS.

11:07:20 WHAT HAPPENED WITH UKRAINE AND HAS ALREADY BEEN WON.

11:07:27 SO, YEAH RUSSIA PULL OUT THEIR TROOPS.

11:07:29 AND WITH YOU CARRY THEM TOO.

11:07:33 NOW LISTEN UP, TODAY WE ARE REOPENING GOVERNMENT.

11:07:35 AIN'T NO CITY OF TAMPA GOVERNMENT.

11:07:42 THIS IS MOSCOW, GAINESVILLE LIKE WE TOLD YOU AND THE

11:07:45 UNITED STATES IS BEING DISSOLVED SINCE 2011.

11:07:47 I TOLD YOU THE CHIEF OF POLICE AN CAN'T DO ANYTHING THE

11:07:50 FIRST TIME BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHEN I MAKE A DECISION IT'S

11:07:52 FINAL.

11:07:56 AND ALSO, THESE GROCERY STORES DOCTOR I AM GOING TO

11:07:57 REOPEN THEM TODAY.

11:08:00 BUT LISTEN UP, Y'ALL ARE GOING TO LEARN HOW TO WORK

11:08:02 THIS BAR TAB.

11:08:06 I AM NOT OPENING NO 114 TRILLION BAR TAB FOR YOU TO SIT

11:08:08 THERE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO ROB IT.

11:08:10 YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ROB IT.

11:08:12 TELL YOU HUE TAB WORKS.

11:08:14 WHEN SOMEBODY BUYS SOMETHING FROM YOUR BAR OR GROCERY

11:08:15 STORE YOU WILL MARK IT OFF.

11:08:17 THAT IS HOW YOU WORK A TAB.

11:08:20 NO YOU ARE NOT DRAWING ANY MONEY OFF OF IT.

11:08:21 IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

11:08:23 NO YOU CAN NOT ROB IT.

11:08:27 TELL YOU ALL -- TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ROB STUFF.

11:08:33 NOW, LOOK, THOSE WHO DID BECOME WILLING VOLUNTEERS WHO

11:08:35 WANTED TO BECOME WORKERS.

11:08:38 WORKERS YOU GET PAID $3.47.

11:08:42 ONLY WHEN A VOLUNTEER GETS $800 AN HOUR BECAUSE THAT IS

11:08:46 THEIR ALLOWANCE PAID IN FULL AND ALL OF THEIR STUFF

11:08:49 BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES WHO DECIDED TO BE TRUE

11:08:54 SOVEREIGN MEMBERS NOW YOU DECIDED TO STAY DOWN WITH THE

11:08:56 STATE AND DON'T GIVE A DARN.

11:08:59 YOU ARE ONE THAT HAVE FINALIZED YOUR DECISION AT $3.47

11:09:03 AN HOUR.

11:09:05 TELL YOU ONCE I OPEN THE WINDOW I WILL LEAVE IT OPEN

11:09:11 FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THEN I AM GOING TO CLOSE IT.

11:09:15 NOW IT IS NOT TP, IT IS INTERNATIONAL TAMPA POLICE

11:09:17 DEPARTMENT AGENCY.

11:09:19 DEPARTMENT FOR A CLOTHING STORE.

11:09:22 YOU AIN'T SEE NO CLOTHES IN THERE.

11:09:26 AND THE COMPANY, THAT IS CIA.

11:09:29 AND I MAY EXPLAIN THE REST DOWNSTAIRS.

11:09:32 THANK YOU.

11:09:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

11:09:46 NUMBER 27.

11:09:48 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

11:09:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME.

11:09:51 >> AN HONOR TO BE HERE.

11:09:55 SCOTT BULLARD, RETIRED DETECTIVE FROM TAMPA POLICE.

11:09:58 I STARTED MY CAREER IN 1997.

11:10:01 2008 I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A JUNIOR DETECTIVE

11:10:03 AND WORK WITH MARY O'CONNOR.

11:10:05 SINCE I WORKED WITH HER, I CONTINUED ON AND WENT TO

11:10:08 HOMICIDE AND AFTER I RETIRED, I WENT TO THE DEPARTMENT

11:10:12 OF JUSTICE AND WORKED FOR THE FBI FOR THREE YEARS.

11:10:14 SINCE THEN, I MOVED BACK TO TAMPA.

11:10:19 WHEN I WORKED FOR MARY IN 2008 TO 2011, I LEARNED SHE

11:10:22 HAD EXCEPTIONAL LEADERSHIP SKILLS, TWO OF WHICH WAS THE

11:10:26 ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE AND HER COMMITMENT TO HER WORK.

11:10:30 WHEN SHE COMMUNICATED WITH US, SHE CREATED THIS

11:10:32 ATMOSPHERE OF COMPETITION AND TEAMWORK.

11:10:35 WOULD YOU THINK THAT DOESN'T REALLY MATCH UP, BUT

11:10:38 FASTER THIS ENVIRONMENT TO WHERE US AS DETECTIVES, WE

11:10:42 COMMUNICATED WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS.

11:10:47 SHE ENCOURAGED US TO SPEAK AND TO TEACH ONE ANOTHER AND

11:10:50 TO LEARN HOW SO SOLVE CRIMES BETTER.

11:10:52 SHE ALSO ENCOURAGED US TO LEARN AND TRAIN.

11:10:56 SHE WANTED US TO BETTER OURSELVES AS DETECTIVES, AS

11:10:57 PATROL MEN.

11:11:00 TRAINING WAS ONE OF HER TOP PRIORITIES.

11:11:04 ALL OF US WANTED WORK ALL OF THE TIME AND MORALE WAS

11:11:05 HIGH.

11:11:07 WE REALLY ENJOY IT.

11:11:09 OFTENTIMES WATCHED HER COMMUNICATE WITH MANAGEMENT FROM

11:11:11 OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

11:11:13 THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE STATE

11:11:17 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, FBI, ATF, U.S. MARSHAL'S SERVICE.

11:11:19 THE COMMUNICATION SKILLS SOLVE CASES.

11:11:22 THEY RECOVERED PROPERTY.

11:11:24 THEY LOWERED THE CRIME RATE.

11:11:27 THEY HELPED THE VICTIMS.

11:11:29 SECOND LEADERSHIP SKILLS COMMENDED.

11:11:32 SHE KNEW AND MEMORIZED ALL THE CASE DETAILS.

11:11:34 SHE WOULDN'T LEAVE A STONE UNTURNED.

11:11:37 DIDN'T MATTER IF THE CASE WAS BIG OR SMALL.

11:11:41 SHE WANTED US TO FOLLOW UP ON FINGERPRINTS, DNA, VIDEO

11:11:44 SURVEILLANCE, INTERVIEW WITNESSES ARE INTERVIEW

11:11:44 NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE.

11:11:46 EVERYBODY.

11:11:49 EVERY LEAD COUNTED.

11:11:51 SHE WAS ALWAYS AT WORK.

11:11:52 SHE ARRIVED EARLY.

11:11:53 SHE STAYED LATE.

11:11:57 CAME IN ON THE WEEKENDS, MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, HOLIDAYS,

11:11:58 ALL THE TIME.

11:12:01 SHE IS ALSO COMMITTED TO THE COMMUNITY.

11:12:04 SHE IS ATTENDED SEVERAL CRIME WATCH MEETINGS.

11:12:05 I HAVE BEEN WITH HER.

11:12:08 WE HAVE MET WITH THE MOTHERS OF MISSING CHILDREN.

11:12:11 WE HAVE VISITED VICTIMS TO CHECK ON THEIR WELFARE,

11:12:14 THEIR INJURIES, MAKE SURE THE CASE WAS DEVELOPING AND

11:12:17 PROGRESSING IN A WAY THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE.

11:12:21 SHE HAS COLLECTED DONATIONS TO REPLACE CHRISTMAS GIFTS

11:12:24 ON CHRISTMAS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAD THEIR CHRISTMAS GIFTS

11:12:26 STOLEN.

11:12:29 IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW THAT MARY O'CONNOR IS A

11:12:29 GREAT LEADER.

11:12:32 SHE HAS OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION AND COMMITTED NOT

11:12:36 ONLY TO THE POLICE BUT ALSO TO THE COMMUNITY.

11:12:39 MARY O'CONNOR IS THE PERFECT CANDIDATE FOR CHIEF OF

11:12:39 POLICE.

11:12:40 THANK YOU.

11:12:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

11:12:46 NUMBER 28.

11:12:50 NUMBER 28.

11:12:52 NUMBER 28.

11:12:55 WE WILL MOVE ON.

11:13:01 CROSSED OUT SOME FOLKS HERE.

11:13:03 NUMBER 33.

11:13:06 33?

11:13:08 I CAN'T READ THAT.

11:13:09 GONZALEZ LAST NAME?

11:13:10 ALL RIGHT.

11:13:16 I DIDN'T SEE -- NUMBER 28.

11:13:17 >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

11:13:20 GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN, CITY COUNCIL.

11:13:26 TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, IF YOU WERE WATCHING, TO MISS

11:13:28 O'CONNOR AS WELL.

11:13:30 I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE APPOINTMENT OF

11:13:32 MISS O'CONNOR.

11:13:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOUR NAME.

11:13:37 >> GONZALEZ MOTIERI.

11:13:40 I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO MISS O'CONNOR, NOT

11:13:43 ANY CONCERNS OF CONTENT OF HER CHARACTER.

11:13:46 I MEAN, NOBODY KNOWS MORE ABOUT SECOND CHANCES THAN I

11:13:48 DO.

11:13:53 SO I AM A BIG PROPONENT OF THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW MISS

11:13:55 O'CONNOR PERSONALLY.

11:13:58 IT WOULD BE A FALLACY ON MY PART TO JUDGE HER

11:14:02 ELIGIBILITY FOR THE POSITION; HOWEVER, I AM OPPOSING

11:14:06 HER APPOINTMENT ON THE BASIS OF THE UNILATERAL PROCESS

11:14:09 THAT WAS USED IN THE SELECTION.

11:14:12 I BELIEVE THAT WAS WRONG.

11:14:15 WHILE I DO BELIEVE THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ULTIMATELY

11:14:19 DOES HAVE THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST AT HEART, GIVEN ITS

11:14:23 CHECKERED HISTORY, I WOULD -- IT WOULD BE REMISSED IF I

11:14:27 DIDN'T QUESTION THE MAYOR'S OFFICE JUDGMENT ESPECIALLY

11:14:30 WHEN IT COMES TO CHOOSING THE NEXT CHIEF OF POLICE.

11:14:34 I SAY THIS BECAUSE OF THE DISGRACEFUL TENURE OF FORMER

11:14:37 CHIEF BRIAN DUGAN AND HIS INCLINATIONS TOWARD

11:14:40 AUTHORITARIANISM.

11:14:44 IT STINGS THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY

11:14:46 AMONG THE BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY.

11:14:48 THAT INCLINATION IS BEST ILLUSTRATED BY THE

11:14:53 DISPROPORTIONATE AND BIASED RESPONSE TO BLACK LIVES

11:14:54 PROTEST IN 2020.

11:14:58 ENCOURAGED BYSTANDERS TO USE VEHICLES AS WEAPONS.

11:15:02 THAT LED TO SEVERAL CITIZENS BEING HARMED BY THE POLICE

11:15:06 DEPARTMENT, SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS.

11:15:09 TO HARM US INSTEAD OF SERVING AND PROTECT US.

11:15:14 DURING THIS TIME OF NECESSARY UPHEAVAL AND THE

11:15:18 LEGITIMACY OF OUR INSTITUTIONS ARE BEING CALLED INTO

11:15:18 QUESTION.

11:15:22 I AM CHALLENGING THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO SERVE RESOLUTELY

11:15:24 ON THE SIDE OF DEMOCRACY.

11:15:26 LET US KNOW WHO THE CANDIDATES ARE.

11:15:30 IF MISS O'CONNOR IS TRULY THE BEST CANDIDATE, LET HER

11:15:33 QUALIFICATIONS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES AS WE MEASURE THEM

11:15:36 ALONGSIDE THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES.

11:15:39 PEOPLE OF THIS CITY NEED HOPE.

11:15:42 AND UP TO THE PEOPLE IN LEADERSHIP TO INSPIRE THAT

11:15:42 HOPE.

11:15:47 FOR THAT REASON I AM REQUESTING THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE

11:15:50 RETRACT THEIR UNILATERAL APPOINTMENT OF MISS O'CONNOR

11:15:54 AND INSTEAD OPT FOR A MORE INCLUSIVE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS

11:15:56 THAT INCLUDES THE INPUT OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND

11:15:58 CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT CITY.

11:16:04 ALSO THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK, TOM BRADY.

11:16:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 34.

11:16:16 >> YES.

11:16:21 MY NAME IS KAREN PEOPLES.

11:16:24 AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS

11:16:26 OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU AND SPEAK.

11:16:30 I HAVE NO TIME TO BE A LONG-DRAWN-OUT CONVERSATION WITH

11:16:30 YOU ALL.

11:16:32 I AM GOING TO GET RIGHT TO THE POINT.

11:16:38 MY THING IS, MARY O'CONNOR WAS SELECTED BY THE MAYOR,

11:16:41 BUT WE ALSO SELECTED THE MAYOR.

11:16:43 I CAMPAIGN FOR THE MAYOR.

11:16:47 I WORKED HARD FOR GIVING HER IN HER POSITION.

11:16:51 SO I SAY WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE HERE, MARY O'CONNOR,

11:16:55 DELGADO THAT WILL BE -- LEADERSHIP HERE.

11:17:00 AND I ALSO SAY LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND LET'S GO AHEAD ON

11:17:03 AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT BRING THESE PEOPLE

11:17:07 BECAUSE I MADE PRESIDENT OF CRIME WATCH NORTHEAST IN.

11:17:12 AND MY THING IS THAT SHE IS GOING TO BE A PART OF MY

11:17:17 GROUP IN REFERENCE TO HELP ME DO BETTER IN THE CITY OF

11:17:17 TAMPA.

11:17:19 THE CITY OF TAMPA IT GROWING.

11:17:21 AND WE NEED TO GROW WITH IT.

11:17:24 IF THERE IS A PROBLEM AND THERE HAVE BEEN PROBLEMS,

11:17:27 MANY PROBLEMS, LET'S COME TO THE TABLE, ALL OF US, AND

11:17:29 MAKE A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.

11:17:33 AND LET'S SOLVE THE PROBLEM BY GIVING HER AN

11:17:37 OPPORTUNITY TO BE THAT PERSON TO HELP US SOLVE THE

11:17:38 PROBLEM.

11:17:39 I AM NOT HERE TO BADGER ANYBODY.

11:17:40 I CAN'T.

11:17:41 AND I AM NOT.

11:17:45 BUT I'M HERE TO SAY AS A LEADER IN THE COMMUNITY OF THE

11:17:54 CITY OF TAMPA, I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND ALSO SAY THAT

11:17:58 JANE CASTOR BEING THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS

11:18:01 MADE HER CHOICE, AND I AM GOING TO BACK HER CHOICE.

11:18:05 IF ANYBODY DON'T CARE ABOUT OR HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT

11:18:06 I SAY, SEE ME LATER.

11:18:08 BUT THE THING IS, I AM A GROWN WOMAN.

11:18:10 NO ONE FORCED ME TO COME HERE.

11:18:11 I'M HERE ON MY OWN.

11:18:17 BUT I AM ASKING YOU, WE HAVE NO TIME TO TALLY ON AND

11:18:21 DRAW -- DRAW OUT A LONG PROCESS IN REFERENCE TO WHAT WE

11:18:23 NEED TO DO AND MOVE FORWARD.

11:18:25 LET US MOVE FORWARD IN THE RIGHT WAY.

11:18:29 LET US ALL COME TO THE TABLE, THOSE WHO HAVE PROBLEMS.

11:18:33 YES, WE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITIES,

11:18:35 BUT WE NEED TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS.

11:18:38 NOT JUST KEEP DRAWING OUT WITH THEM.

11:18:41 AND I SAY RIGHT NOW, THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME.

11:18:44 MARY O'CONNOR, I APPRECIATE YOU.

11:18:46 I APPRECIATE DELGADO.

11:18:47 I APPRECIATE CITY COUNCIL.

11:18:50 AND I ALSO PREACH GOD FOR GIVING ME THE LEADERSHIP TO

11:18:52 COME HERE.

11:18:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS PEEPLES.

11:18:58 NUMBER 35.

11:19:01 NUMBER 35?

11:19:08 ALL RIGHT.

11:19:09 ALL RIGHT.

11:19:12 AGAIN, WE HAVE SOME XS HERE.

11:19:14 SO WE WILL GO TO NUMBER 41.

11:19:25 41.

11:19:26 >> YOU MUST HAVE SCARED EVERYBODY OFF.

11:19:30 LORD, THAT IS A BIG SKIP.

11:19:32 GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

11:19:35 NICE TO BE BACK IN -- IN THE HOUSE.

11:19:38 I STAND HERE WITH A HEAVY HEART THIS MORNING.

11:19:41 BECAUSE OF COUNCIL DINGFELDER'S RESIGNATION.

11:19:44 WE LOST THE BODY THAT WE ELECTED.

11:19:48 THE BULLYING OF OUR LOCAL OFFICIALS IS SICKENING.

11:19:52 ON OCTOBER 7, 2021, THE CITY ATTORNEY GINA GRIMES

11:19:55 STATED, IF ANY CITY OFFICIAL FILES PROVIDE PUBLIC

11:19:59 RECORDS, THE CITY CANNOT EXPECT -- EXPEND TAXPAYER

11:20:02 DOLLARS TO DEFEND THAT POSITION.

11:20:08 IT IS ALLEGED THAT I TRADED THESE E-MAILS.

11:20:10 I'M HERE TO TELL YOU NO ONE EVER ASKED ME.

11:20:17 AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN FROM STEPHANIE POYNOR.

11:20:21 IT IS AMAZING BECAUSE FOUR DAYS LATER, THERE WAS A

11:20:24 LAWSUIT FILED AGAINST ONE OF OUR CITY COUNCILMEN.

11:20:27 WE OPENED UP THE FLOODGATES.

11:20:30 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER CANNOT SERVE US AGAIN FOR ANOTHER

11:20:31 FIVE YEARS.

11:20:35 YET IN TUESDAY'S TAMPA BAY BUSINESS JOURNAL, THERE WAS

11:20:38 AN ARTICLE OF A ETHICS VIOLATION.

11:20:43 ARTICLE C-1-B OF THE ETHIC RULES STATE THAT VIOLATIONS

11:20:46 ARE NOT TO BE MADE PUBLIC UNTIL AFTER THE CASE IS

11:20:48 CLOSED.

11:20:52 I ASK YOU, GENTLEMEN, WHO RELEASED THOSE DOCUMENTS TO

11:20:53 THE PUBLIC?

11:20:59 BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE RULES SAY.

11:21:05 THIS -- THIS ALLEGED ETHICS VIOLATION IS NOT SOMETHING

11:21:06 NEW, OKAY.

11:21:08 THIS NONSENSE.

11:21:11 I WOULD SAY THAT IT IS A WITCH HUNT.

11:21:15 WHY ARE WE WASTING OUR TAX DOLLARS CHASING AFTER

11:21:17 SOMEBODY WHO IS ALREADY GONE.

11:21:20 AS A MEMBER OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, I FIND IT

11:21:22 OFFENSIVE.

11:21:27 AS A MEMBER OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE -- I WANT TO REMIND

11:21:30 EVERYONE THAT LAST FALL THE BUDGET COMMITTEE

11:21:34 RECOMMENDED THAT CITY COUNCIL BE GIVEN MORE FUNDS FOR

11:21:35 STAFF.

11:21:39 AND THESE GENTLEMEN AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER

11:21:42 SELFLESSLY TURNED DOWN THOSE FUNDS.

11:21:45 THEY SAID, NO, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO SPEND ANY MORE

11:21:47 MONEY ON US.

11:21:53 AND HERE THEY ARE WITHOUT LEGAL REPRESENTATION.

11:21:57 I ALSO OFFER THAT DIRECTORS AND OFFICERS' INSURANCE BE

11:22:01 GIVEN TO EVERY SINGLE CITY OFFICIAL WITHOUT COST TO

11:22:03 THEM.

11:22:07 THESE GENTLEMEN UP HERE MAKE $53,000 A YEAR TO DO WHAT

11:22:09 THEY DO.

11:22:14 IT'S EMBARRASSING THAT THEY HAVE TO RESIGN OR LOSE

11:22:19 EVERY DOLLAR THAT THEY HAVE DUE TO FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS.

11:22:21 GENTLEMEN, BE CAREFUL OUT THERE.

11:22:25 THE, I RAN THATS ARE WAITING ON THEIR NEXT VICTIM.

11:22:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS POYNOR.

11:22:30 ALL RIGHT.

11:22:38 NUMBER 42.

11:22:39 >> GOOD MORNING.

11:22:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING.

11:22:46 >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT AND A LIFELONG

11:22:47 RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.

11:22:51 A LOT OF CITIZENS DISAGREE AND WANT A LOT OF THINGS

11:22:55 FROM THE GOVERNMENT, ONE THING THEY HAVE ZERO TOLERANCE

11:23:00 IS POLITICAL GAMES AND STRUGGLES ON THE TAXPAYERS'

11:23:02 DIME.

11:23:06 IF THE CITY IS FIGHTING EACH OTHER THEY ARE NOT DOING

11:23:08 THEIR JOB AND WASTING OUR MONEY.

11:23:11 SOMEONE WITH DEEP POCKETS THREATENS OUR ELECTED

11:23:13 OFFICIALS FOR DOUG THEIR JOB, FOR LISTENING TO THE

11:23:16 CITIZENS, FOR REPRESENTING US.

11:23:21 IF PRO-CITIZEN, PRO-NEIGHBORHOOD, PRO-SAFETY COUNCILMEN

11:23:25 ARE ATTACKED FOR DOING THEIR JOB, THE CITIZENS WANT THE

11:23:26 CITY TO DEFEND THAT PERSON.

11:23:29 NOT HANG THEM OUT TO DRY.

11:23:33 BECAUSE IN REALITY, THE CITY IS DEFENDING US AND OUR

11:23:37 RIGHT TO HAVE A VOICE AND OUR RIGHT TO A VOTE AND OUR

11:23:40 RIGHT TO A SEAT AT THE TABLE.

11:23:43 I CAN TELL YOU WHAT CITIZENS HATE.

11:23:46 REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL PARTY OR PERSONAL BELIEFS OR

11:23:49 PRIORITIES, WE DON'T WANT OUR PRECIOUS TAX DOLLARS

11:23:52 SPENT TO PERSECUTE AND PROSECUTE SOME PETTY VIOLATION

11:23:57 OF SOME OBSCURE TECHNICALITY THAT NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT OR

11:24:00 CARES ABOUT BECAUSE WE HAVE REAL PROBLEMS.

11:24:01 WE HAVE BIG PROBLEMS.

11:24:04 WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS PUTTING PEOPLE ON THE STREETS.

11:24:09 WE HAVE A CLIMATE CRISIS THAT THREATENS OUR LIE LIVES.

11:24:10 WE HAVE SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS.

11:24:13 WE NEED STREETS PAVED AND SIDEWALKS BILL WILL AND OUR

11:24:16 TREES PROTECTED AND LOTS OF GOOD PARKS.

11:24:20 WHAT WE DO NOT NEED IS OUR TAX DOLLARS SPENT READING

11:24:23 THOUSANDS OF E-MAILS ABOUT SOME MEANINGLESS VIOLATION

11:24:26 THAT ULTIMATELY DID NOT RESULT IN A FINANCIAL BENEFIT

11:24:28 TO ANYONE.

11:24:30 THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT DEFENDING THE PEOPLE'S

11:24:35 RIGHT TO BE REPRESENTED BY THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO

11:24:37 WERE UNDER ATTACK FOR DOING THEIR JOB.

11:24:38 WE HAVE BIG PROBLEMS.

11:24:40 REAL PROBLEM.

11:24:43 WHEN CITIZENS HEAR THAT CITY RESOURCES ARE BEING SPENT

11:24:49 PURSUING TOMORROW PENNY ANTE BS, WE ARE DISGUSTED.

11:24:52 WE AS CITIZENS WANT EVERYONE TO KNOCK IT OFF.

11:24:55 LEAVE YOUR EGOS AND PERSONAL SQUABBLES TO THE DOOR AND

11:24:59 STOP THE SELF-INDULGENT GAMES BEING PLAYED ON THE

11:25:00 PEOPLE'S DIME.

11:25:05 WE WANT OUR COUNCILMEMBERS TO VOTE WAY THEIR

11:25:09 CONSTITUENTS WANT THEM TO VOTE WITHOUT THE FEAR OF

11:25:12 FINANCIAL RUIN.

11:25:15 THANK YOU.

11:25:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 43.

11:25:23 >> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

11:25:27 MY NAME IS DR. STEVEN SCHWARTZ, I AM A LONG-TERM

11:25:28 RESIDENT OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.

11:25:32 I AM ALSO CURRENTLY VICE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF THE

11:25:36 ASSOCIATION OF TOWERS OF CHANNELSIDE.

11:25:39 I WILL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NOISE

11:25:41 ORDINANCE COMING UP LATER.

11:25:45 FIRST, I WILL QUICKLY READ A LETTER THAT I PROMISED TO

11:25:47 READ SOMEONE WHO COULD NOT BE HERE.

11:25:48 HIS NAME IS MICHAEL LEADS.

11:25:51 MY NAME IS MICHAEL LEADS, AND I AM RESIDENT OF THE

11:25:54 TOWERS OF CHANNELSIDE AND A FORMER CHANNELSIDE CAC

11:25:55 BOARD MEMBERS.

11:25:58 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING MY NEIGHBOR STEVEN BOARD MEMBER

11:26:01 STEVEN SCHWARTZ TO READ MY TESTIMONY AS I NEEDED TO BE

11:26:04 OUT OF TOWN FOR A MEETING AND UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS

11:26:06 HEARING.

11:26:09 I AM WRITING THIS LETTER TO SHOW MY SUPPORT FOR PASSAGE

11:26:12 OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ORDINANCE 22-18 --

11:26:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIR, I AM SORRY -- DOCTOR -- THAT

11:26:20 ITEM NUMBER 61, THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT IS SET?

11:26:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:26:25 YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY SHORTLY.

11:26:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.

11:26:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS JUST TOLD BY FROM MY

11:26:36 ADMINISTRATIVE AIDE.

11:26:42 MISS MCCASKILL WENT TO THE REST ROOM.

11:26:43 SHE CAME BACK IN.

11:26:44 IS SHE READY?

11:26:47 >> GOOD AFTERNOON -- OR IS IT MORNING.

11:26:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STILL MORNING.

11:26:50 >> A LONG DAY.

11:26:54 I AM KELLA MCCASKILL, CONCERNED CITIZEN IN TAMPA.

11:26:57 YOU KNOW THIS MEETING STARTED OFF -- VERY IRONIC, IT

11:26:59 STARTED OFF REGARDING PROCESS.

11:27:01 PROCESS.

11:27:07 SOMETHING WE HEAR THAT YOU HAVE TO LIVE BY EACH AND

11:27:07 EVERY DAY.

11:27:09 YOU CAN'T USURP YOUR AUTHORITY.

11:27:13 YOU CAN'T MISUSE IT, YOU CAN'T GET EXCEPTIONS.

11:27:15 THE ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE THAT.

11:27:16 THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY.

11:27:20 NOT A PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN ADHERED TOO.

11:27:22 IT IS UNFORTUNATELY THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS NOT

11:27:24 HERE TODAY BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE PROCESS VIOLATED EVEN

11:27:28 THEM AND HIS RIGHTS AS HE DEFEND THIS COMMUNITY, A VERY

11:27:30 HARD-WORKING CITY COUNCILMAN.

11:27:32 HAD TO GO THROUGH THE PROPERTY BECAUSE HE WAS A PART OF

11:27:35 WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO A VIOLATE PROCESS.

11:27:38 THIS ISN'T ABOUT TODAY DISLIKE OR LIKE FOR THIS

11:27:40 NOMINATED CHIEF.

11:27:41 IT IS NONE OF THAT.

11:27:45 IT IS ABOUT THE DISRESPECT AND THE FAILURE TO FOLLOW

11:27:46 PROCESS.

11:27:48 ABOUT THE LACK OF TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY.

11:27:50 A LACK OF TRUST FOR THE STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATION

11:27:51 FROM THE COMMUNITY.

11:27:56 SO NOT USING YOUR AUTHORITY TO SAY NO TODAY WILL HURT

11:27:57 US EVEN FURTHER.

11:28:00 IT WILL BE MORE -- NO SEPARATION OF POWER.

11:28:03 IT CAN LEAD TO MORE RESIGNATION.

11:28:07 COULD LEAD TO MORE HANNA STREET OOPS.

11:28:09 IT COULD LEAD TO FORCING PURE.

11:28:14 IT COULD LEAD TO IGNORING THE GREATEST CRISIS WE HAVE

11:28:18 IN THIS CITY, FAILURE TO SAY NO USING YOUR AUTHORITY

11:28:19 FOR PROCESS.

11:28:22 AND THEN I AM CONCERNED BECAUSE I NEVER HEARD -- AND I

11:28:23 HAVE BEEN HERE ALL MY LIFE.

11:28:27 I NEVER HEARD OF A FELON BEING ABLE TO BECOME A POLICE

11:28:28 OFFICER.

11:28:31 I AM NOT SURE IF THAT WAS RECENTLY ADOPTED TODAY OR FOR

11:28:35 THE PURPOSES OF THIS RECENT REQUEST TO NOMINATE A

11:28:36 FELON.

11:28:37 I HAVE TO CALL IT WHAT IT IS.

11:28:38 IT IS A FELON.

11:28:41 I DON'T KNOW ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS A CITIZEN IN THIS

11:28:46 CITY THAT WAS ABLE TO APPLY AND BECOME AN OFFICER, LET

11:28:48 ALONE BE ELEVATED TO ITS HIGHEST OFFICE.

11:28:49 IT IS UNACCEPTABLE.

11:28:52 NOT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS IS UNACCEPTABLE.

11:28:55 WE CAN NOT ACCEPT THAT BEHAVIOR FROM THE

11:28:56 ADMINISTRATION.

11:28:57 WE CAN'T DO IT.

11:29:00 YOU CAN'T DO IT AND ALL THAT IS ASKING YOU TO DO IS

11:29:03 HEAR US AND RESPOND AS LEADERS TODAY AND SAY NO.

11:29:07 THANK YOU.

11:29:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, NUMBER 50.

11:29:15 NUMBER 50.

11:29:16 51.

11:29:18 IS 50 HERE?

11:29:19 >> YOU SAID 50?

11:29:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING BY THE LIST AND THEN OTHER

11:29:23 PEOPLE TO SPEAK, I WILL TAKE THOSE PEOPLE AFTER THAT.

11:29:29 51.

11:29:32 >> HI, MY NAME IS VALERIE BULLOCK.

11:29:36 I AM A THIRD GENERATION HOMEOWNER IN EACH TAMPA.

11:29:38 AND I AM NOT AGAINST THE PERSON.

11:29:42 IT IS THE PROCESS THAT I AM AGAINST DEALING WITH THE

11:29:44 MAYOR.

11:29:49 IT HAS BEEN NOT TRANSPARENT AND AT TIMES SHE LACKS

11:29:51 INTEGRITY AND I CAN BACK IT UP WITH FACTS.

11:29:55 WHEN SHE WAS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE FOR THE CITIZEN

11:30:01 ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR DEALING WITH THE POLICE

11:30:02 COMPLAINTS.

11:30:05 SHE SAID IF SOMEONE HAD BEEN ARRESTED, YOU COULD NOT BE

11:30:06 ON THAT BOARD.

11:30:09 SO HERE WE IS AGAIN.

11:30:12 DOES THAT JUST GO FOR THE CITIZENS, CERTAIN CITIZENS OF

11:30:13 TAMPA?

11:30:19 OR DO IT GO FOR ALL CITIZENS OF TAMPA AND I AM ALSO A

11:30:23 WASTEWATER SUPERVISOR FOR THE CITY OF LAKELAND AND

11:30:24 ENVIRONMENTAL TRAINER.

11:30:26 I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR PEOPLE OUT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD

11:30:30 TO BE WASTEWATER OPERATORS TO GET THE CHANCE TO GET A

11:30:34 SIX-FIGURE INCOME EVERYWHERE I GO, THE DOOR IS SHUT IN

11:30:37 MY FACE.

11:30:38 THEY ARE FELON.

11:30:39 THEY THIS.

11:30:40 THEY THAT.

11:30:43 SO TODAY, WE THROW OUT THE RED CARPET FOR SECOND

11:30:44 CHANCES.

11:30:46 IS THAT JUST FOR TODAY?

11:30:47 IS IT JUST FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE?

11:30:50 OR IS IT FOR ALL PEOPLE?

11:30:55 AND LIKE EVERYBODY SAY, WE ALL HAVE MADE MISTAKES.

11:30:55 YES, WE HAVE.

11:30:59 BUT WHY IS IT THAT SOME PEOPLE CAN OVERCOME THEIR

11:30:59 MISTAKES.

11:31:02 BUT THE PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN EAST TAMPA, THEY

11:31:06 GET BEAT DOWN WITH THEIR MISTAKE.

11:31:07 THAT IS IT.

11:31:07 THANK YOU.

11:31:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.

11:31:11 ALL RIGHT, OUT OF NUMBERS NOW.

11:31:14 IF YOU LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK.

11:31:26 COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.

11:31:30 WE ARE OUT OF NUMBERS, AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, IF YOU

11:31:33 WANT TO SPEAK, ONE AT A TIME AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO

11:31:35 SPEAK.

11:31:36 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

11:31:42 MY NAME IS SHAKENYA BURRIEN,

11:31:46 I'M A MOTHER OF TWO BOYS, TWO BOYS AGES 7 AND TWO MONTHS.

11:31:49 I HAVE BEEN A TAMPA RESIDENT FOR 30 YEARS.

11:31:54 MARCH 2020, I WAS EXPOSED TO COVID FORCING ME TO APPLY

11:31:57 FROM UNEMPLOYMENT AND FINANCIAL ASSISTANT FROM

11:31:57 DIFFERENT AGENCIES.

11:32:00 I RECEIVED RENTAL ASSISTANCE WITH DIFFERENT AGENCIES

11:32:03 AND HIT WITH THE BACKLASH FROM MY LEASING COMPANY IN

11:32:06 MID-JANUARY OF 2020 THAT I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RENEW

11:32:10 MY LEASE AS A TENANT BECAUSE I HAD RECEIVED TOO MUCH

11:32:14 RENTAL ASSISTANCE WHICH FORCED ME TO RELOCATE MY FAMILY

11:32:16 IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.

11:32:18 SINCE JANUARY, I HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY LOOKING AND

11:32:21 APPLYING FOR DIFFERENT APARTMENTS WITH THE CONSTANT

11:32:24 WORRY IF I WILL BE ABLE TO LOCATE ONE, IF IT IS

11:32:27 AFFORDABLE, WITHIN MY BUDGET.

11:32:30 I WANT TO LIVE IN A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LIVE

11:32:32 COMFORTABLY.

11:32:35 APARTMENTS ARE ASKING FOR $1500 TO $1800 FOR A TWO

11:32:38 BEDROOM OR THREE-BEDROOM APARTMENT BUILDING WITH NO

11:32:40 AMENITIES AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE THREE TIMES THE RENT TO

11:32:41 QUALIFY.

11:32:47 I LOCATED AN APARTMENT WHICH RENT WAS $1595 FOR A

11:32:52 TWO-BEDROOM, ONE BATH WITH 895 SQUARE FEET.

11:32:55 I WOULD -- I WOULD NEED TO HAVE A MONTHLY INCOME OF

11:33:02 $4785 A MONTH JUST TO FALL PHI WITH THE RENT TO PAY OF

11:33:04 $19 AN HOUR.

11:33:09 AND 40 HOURS A WEEK, BRINGING IN A TOTAL OF $2680 A

11:33:11 MONTH AFTER TAXES, I DON'T QUALIFY.

11:33:15 I STILL HAVE THE COST OF CHILD CARE, ELECTRIC, CAR

11:33:18 PAYMENT, WATER, FOOD.

11:33:21 THIS IS A CRISIS AND WE NEED RENT STABILIZATION.

11:33:24 NOT AS THE SOLUTION AS PART OF THE SOLUTION.

11:33:28 EVERY COMMUNITY DESERVES JUSTICE ON EVERY BLOCK.

11:33:29 THIS IS MY STORY.

11:33:31 AND, AGAIN, THIS IS THE CRISIS.

11:33:35 RENT IS GOING UP, BUT WAGES AREN'T.

11:33:36 THANK YOU.

11:33:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

11:33:47 NEXT SPEAKER.

11:33:49 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

11:33:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING.

11:33:52 STATE YOUR NAME.

11:33:56 >> MY NAME IS ROBIN LOCKETT AND SWITCHING THE GEARS

11:33:59 HERE A LITTLE BIT AROUND RENT STABILIZATION.

11:34:00 RENTS STABILIZATION IS A MUST.

11:34:03 WE APPRECIATE THE $5 MILLION, BUT THAT IS JUST A DROP

11:34:04 IN THE BUCKET.

11:34:08 A LONG-TERM ISSUE THAT DESERVES LONG-TERM ACTIONS AN

11:34:09 POLICY CHANGES.

11:34:11 THE COMMUNITY -- THE COMMUNITY DESERVES THAT.

11:34:14 WHAT HAPPENS NEXT YEAR?

11:34:16 WHEN THE MONEY RUNS OUT.

11:34:19 THE RENT WILL STILL BE HIGHER AND THE WAGES WILL REMAIN

11:34:20 THE SAME.

11:34:23 THIS HAS BEEN A CRISIS FOR THE POOR WORKING-CLASS

11:34:28 WORKING TWO TO THREE JOBS TO MAKE ENDS MEET.

11:34:31 NOW THAT IT IS AFFECTING OTHERS, IT IS IDENTIFIED AS A

11:34:32 CRISIS.
11:34:35 DEVELOPERS AND DEVELOPMENT SHOULD NOT BE THE FOREFRONT

11:34:37 IN MAKING DECISIONS.

11:34:40 THE PEOPLE SHOULD BE FIRST.

11:34:44 THERE IS A NEED TO PROTECT ALL PEOPLE.

11:34:46 PROFIT DOES NOT VOTE, PEOPLE DO.

11:34:51 SO THAT IS MY STATEMENT AROUND RENT STABILIZATION.

11:34:56 WHAT IS GOING ON HERE TODAY AROUND THE CHIEF.

11:34:58 THE APPOINTMENT OF THE CHIEF.

11:35:02 I THINK THAT TRANSPARENCY IS VERY IMPORTANT.

11:35:03 THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

11:35:08 THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

11:35:11 AND IF I AM A CITIZEN AND I DON'T FOLLOW THAT PROCESS,

11:35:16 I DON'T GET A SECOND CHANCE.

11:35:21 NO ONE IS REFUTING THE FACT THAT THE APPOINTED CHIEF

11:35:25 GOT A SECOND CHANCE, BUT IN THE BLACK COMMUNION, THAT

11:35:25 DOESN'T HAPPEN.

11:35:31 SO TO ASK US TO LOOK AT THINGS FROM THAT STANDPOINT IS

11:35:32 IRRELEVANT.

11:35:35 BECAUSE WE DON'T GET THAT SECOND CHANCE -- CHANCE.

11:35:40 ASK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FINDING OUT RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE

11:35:43 HAD CHARGES THAT THEY CAN'T GET RID OF.

11:35:46 AND THEY CAN NO LONGER GET A JOB.

11:35:46 THEY ARE SUFFERING.

11:35:50 THEY CAN'T EVEN GET AN APARTMENT.

11:35:50 THEY ARE SUFFERING.

11:35:56 SO THINGS ARE HELD TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD.

11:35:58 I AM SORRY THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS NO LONGER

11:36:00 HERE.

11:36:05 BUT -- AND THIS -- AND THIS AREA IS PACKED WITH POLICE

11:36:06 OFFICER.

11:36:10 CITY OF TAMPA MONEY SITTING RIGHT HERE FOR TWO TO THREE

11:36:11 HOURS.

11:36:13 RIGHT?

11:36:19 SO YOU DO WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS WANT TO YOU DO.

11:36:21 WE ELECTED YOU TO DO THAT.

11:36:25 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

11:36:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

11:36:31 ANYONE FROM PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY?

11:36:34 ANYONE ELSE?

11:36:42 COME ON, MISS SALLY.

11:36:43 >> GOOD MORNING.

11:36:45 THANK YOU.

11:36:46 FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

11:36:52 I AM SALLYISE LEE, THE MISSIONARY SOCIETY.

11:36:55 AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT ALL THE LADIES HAVE

11:36:59 SAID, BUT THAT DOES NOT ADD ANYTHING TO OUR COMMUNITY.

11:37:04 I AM WORKING TO OPEN A COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER, THE

11:37:08 VOLUNTEER MISSIONARY SOCIETY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE

11:37:12 AN APPOINTMENT TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER

11:37:14 MISSIONARY SOCIETY.

11:37:16 BECAUSE STUFF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY

11:37:23 LIKE MISS ROBIN SAID NEVER GET ADDRESSED.

11:37:26 AND NEED SECOND CHANCES LIKE MYSELF FROM 25 YEARS AGO.

11:37:28 I AM A PARARESEARCH SPECIALIST.

11:37:30 I WANT TO GO BACK TO LAW SCHOOL.

11:37:32 I ONLY HAVE TWO YEARS LEFT.

11:37:37 LIKE SHE SAID, I CAN'T GET A JOB 25 YEARS.

11:37:38 IT'S AWFUL.

11:37:40 BUT I STILL VOLUNTEER.

11:37:44 AND I STILL LEARN EVERY DAY WHAT MY COMMUNITY NEEDS.

11:37:47 AND I WANT YOU ALL TO MEET WITH ME AND LET ME EXPLAIN

11:37:50 IT TO YOU SO MAYBE YOU ALL WILL SUPPORT A COMMUNITY

11:37:53 CENTER THAT CAN HELP PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR LIVES.

11:37:56 SO I FORGET MY SPEECH THIS MORNING WHEN GOD KEEPS YOU

11:38:01 UP ALL THE TIME, YOU -- EVERYTHING.

11:38:05 HE REQUIRES YOU TO WORK HARD FOR HIM WHENEVER HE CALLS.

11:38:09 HE EXPECTS YOU TO GET UP AND RISE UP AND LISTEN TO WHAT

11:38:10 HE HAS TO SAY.

11:38:11 AND THAT IS WHAT I DO.

11:38:13 IN WAS A LONG JOURNEY.

11:38:15 WHERE YOU CAN'T GET ANY MONEY FOR ANYTHING.

11:38:17 WE ALL NEED SECOND CHANCES.

11:38:20 WE ALL HAVE BEEN WILDING.

11:38:22 REBELLIOUS SOMEWHERE IN OUR LIVES.

11:38:25 I RAISED 12 KIDS SUCCESSFULLY.

11:38:26 THEY ALL TEXT AND GONE.

11:38:28 SO IT'S ME NOW.

11:38:34 AND I WANT TO ACCOMPLISH THIS DREAM OF OPENING A

11:38:36 COMMUNITY CENTER THAT WILL MAKE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE.

11:38:40 EVEN THE GOVERNOR DESANTIS WHEN I WROTE TO HIM AND I --

11:38:48 I WAS TELLING HIM ABOUT THE DISTRAUGHT IT BRINGS TO THE

11:38:50 YOUNG PEOPLE WITH THE FCAT.

11:38:52 YOU DON'T HAVE A CHANCE AS A KID.

11:38:53 YOU GET HELD BACK.

11:38:54 MY GRANDDAUGHTER.

11:38:56 SHE IS SO SMART.

11:39:00 SHE SAID GRANNY, WILL I EVER MAKE TO FOURTH GRADE.

11:39:03 I SAID I HOPE, THE FCAT.

11:39:10 WE NEED TO REMOVE THE INJUSTICE AND BLOCKADE OF MONEY

11:39:14 IN OUR COMMUNITY SO WE CAN STAND TALL AND BE ALL WE CAN

11:39:14 BE.

11:39:17 THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND GOD IS WATCHING US AND HOW

11:39:20 WE ARE DOING THINGS AND HE IS NOT REALLY HAPPY.

11:39:21 I THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.

11:39:23 AND I WOULD LIKE A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO ALL OF YOU ALL

11:39:28 ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER MISSIONARY SOCIETY FUND.

11:39:29 IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

11:39:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:39:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?

11:39:44 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD MORNING.

11:39:48 I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON -- MY NAME IS JAMES FELTON, JR.

11:39:52 I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON -- I AM A TAMPA RESIDENT AND I

11:39:56 BELIEVE THAT -- EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A DESIRE --

11:39:59 JUSTICE ON EVERY BLOCK IN THE COMMUNITY.

11:40:02 I HAVE SEEN MY RENT GO UP EVERY YEAR.

11:40:04 I STRUGGLE TO PAY RENT.

11:40:08 AND MY LANDLORD OFFERED TO HELP ME.

11:40:10 AND I AM ASKING YOU ALL TO HELP.

11:40:13 SHE SAID SHE WAS GIVING ME -- IF I GAVE HER THE KEYS,

11:40:17 SHE WOULD HELP ME TO FIND ANOTHER APARTMENT, WHICH SHE

11:40:18 DIDN'T.

11:40:21 SHE COLLECTED MY THINGS AND SAID I HAVE ONE HOUR TO

11:40:22 MOVE OUT.

11:40:24 ONE HOUR.

11:40:27 I GAVE HER BOTH KEYS AND SHE SAID WHEN I GAVE HER BOTH

11:40:31 KEYS, SHE SAID NOW WHERE ARE YOUR FRIENDS NOW?

11:40:34 WHERE ARE THE TRUCK TO COME GET YOU NOW IN ONE HOUR.

11:40:36 I WAS WALKING DOWN THE STREET THAT SAME DAY AND WHERE

11:40:37 TO GO.

11:40:40 I WAS DISABLED.

11:40:41 I HAD NOWHERE TO GO.

11:40:45 SO I HAD $8 IN ORDER TO GET SOMEWHERE TO THE HOTEL

11:40:49 WHICH ONE OF THE RESIDENTS AT WAFFLE HOUSE ASKED ME --

11:40:53 SAID IF YOU GIVE ME THE $8, I HAVE AN UBER TO TAKE YOU

11:40:55 WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.

11:40:58 I AM THINKING ABOUT HOW THAT NEVER HAPPENED TO ME IN

11:40:59 HIGH LIFE.

11:41:04 SO I WANT TO KNOW IF -- IF YOU CAN DO ANYTHING -- I

11:41:06 KNOW WE ALL HAVE A SECOND CHANCE TO HELP THE ONES THAT

11:41:09 REALLY ARE STRUGGLING BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND

11:41:13 OF EDUCATION THEY MAY HAVE OR WHAT GOD MAY HAVE IN

11:41:14 STORE FOR YOU.

11:41:18 I HAD TO DEPEND ON MY FAMILY WHICH I HAVE ONE FAMILY

11:41:19 NOW.

11:41:22 NONE OF MY FAMILY HERE, BUT SEPARATION SINCE THE

11:41:25 SEMINAR KILLER -- MY BROTHER HAD GOT KILLED.

11:41:31 AND BECAUSE I ONLY HAD -- IT -- I STAY WITH A RELATIVE

11:41:34 AND SOMETIMES I WALK THE STREET AT NIGHT BECAUSE HE HAS

11:41:37 HIS -- IT IS JUST NOT LIKE HAVING YOUR OWN THINGS BY

11:41:44 YOURSELF, YOU KNOW, TO HELP BY LIVING I USED TO BE

11:41:49 MARRIED AND LOST MY WIFE NINE YEARS AGO.

11:41:53 I ASK TO PLEASE HELP -- NOT JUST ME BUT EVERYBODY.

11:41:56 WE ARE WORKING FORWARD TOOR FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.

11:42:00 THANK GOD FOR THE MAYOR FOR 4 MILLION.

11:42:02 I WOULD HAVE TAKEN 1 MILLION, I WOULD HAVE TAKEN A

11:42:03 LUNCH.

11:42:05 I'M HERE TO SAY PLEASE HELP US.

11:42:10 MAY NOT SEEM LIKE MUCH, BUT A LOT MORE THAT I AM NOT

11:42:10 SAYING.

11:42:14 THANK YOU, SIR.

11:42:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE IN ANYONE ON THE SECOND

11:42:17 FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

11:42:19 >> NO ONE ON SECOND FLOOR.

11:42:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:42:24 CHIEF BENNETT, WILL YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR YOUR

11:42:25 PRESENTATION?

11:42:27 IT IS GOING ON MAYBE 20 MINUTES.

11:42:29 ARE WE GOOD?

11:42:32 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN, JOHN BENNETT,

11:42:32 CHIEF OF STAFF.

11:42:35 I THINK WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE PRESENTATION IN LESS

11:42:35 THAN 30 MINUTES.

11:42:39 IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.

11:42:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL PROCEED, SIR.

11:42:44 >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL, TAMPA

11:42:45 COMMUNITY.

11:42:48 TODAY WE PRESENT MARY O'CONNOR BY WAY OF A RESOLUTION

11:42:53 FOR CONFIRMATION BY CITY COUNCIL AS PRESCRIBED.

11:42:55 WE HAVE AN IMPORTANT OBLIGATION TODAY TO SUSTAIN THE

11:42:59 STATE'S AGENCY TWO DECADES LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT

11:43:01 LOWERED CRIME BY 80%.

11:43:03 REDUCING ARRESTS BY 74%.

11:43:06 WHICH OUTPERFORMS ALL MAJOR JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE.

11:43:10 WE SEE BY LOWERING CRIME, WE LOWER ARRESTS.

11:43:13 BY LOWERS ARRESTS WE CREATE OPPORTUNITY AND LEADS TO

11:43:16 JOBS AND THOSE JOBS LEAD TO AN INCREASED QUALITY OF

11:43:18 LIFE.

11:43:22 MAYOR CASTOR'S COMMITMENT TO A NATIONAL SEARCH AND DUE

11:43:24 DILIGENCE LEADING INTO MARY'S APPOINTMENT IS FOLLOWED

11:43:27 BY THE PRESCRIBED PROCESS OF PRESENTING MARY TO COUNCIL

11:43:28 FOR CONFIRMATION.

11:43:31 MARY WAS VETTED BY OVER 100 YEARS OF COMBINED LAW

11:43:36 ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE AND INTRODUCED AND REINTRODUCED

11:43:38 TO HUNDREDS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS LEADING TO TODAY.

11:43:42 AS THE CHAIRMAN HAS STATED AND I CAN CONTEST A

11:43:45 DEPARTMENT THAT OPERATES IN THIS LEVEL OF A

11:43:48 PARAMILITARY ORGANIZATION NEEDS DYNAMIC AND SUCCESSIVE

11:43:52 LEADERSHIP TO NOT ONLY BE THE CHIEF BUT SUSTAIN TO

11:43:54 PREPARE THE NEXT CHIEF TO TAKE OVER ONE DAY.

11:43:57 I WILL LEAVE IT TO YOU AND TURN IT OVER TO MARY

11:43:59 O'CONNOR FOR COMMENTS AND AGAIN SOMETHING THAT WOULD

11:44:02 RESONATE TO THE CHAIRMAN AGAIN WHO SERVED IN THIS

11:44:03 PUBLIC SAFETY CAPACITY.

11:44:06 WHILE MANY OF US WENT THROUGH THE INITIAL ACADEMY, MINE

11:44:08 WAS ALMOST 40 YEARS AGO.

11:44:11 AND TRAINING TO BECOME OFFICERS, WE WERE TOLD NOT TO

11:44:16 GET EMOTIONALLY INVOLVED IN OUR JOB.

11:44:19 SOME OF US OVER THE LAST TWO DECADES REALIZED IT IS

11:44:21 JUST THE OPPOSITE OF THAT.

11:44:23 WE HAVE TO LEARN TO CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND THE

11:44:27 POLICE OFFICERS TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

11:44:29 MARY O'CONNOR EMBRACES THE CARING OF THE OFFICERS AND

11:44:32 THE COMMUNITY AS THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON TO LEAD THE

11:44:36 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT THROUGH ITS CHAPTER OF POLICE

11:44:38 COMMUNITY, SUCCESS AND TRUST BUILDING.

11:44:38 I THANK YOU.

11:44:43 AND NOW I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MARY.

11:44:47 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

11:44:52 TODAY IT IS A GREAT HONOR FOR ME TO COME BEFORE YOU.

11:44:54 I HAVE BEEN NOMINATED TO BECOME THE NEXT TAMPA POLICE

11:44:55 CHIEF.

11:44:58 AND I WOULD BE HUMBLED IF GIVEN THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR

11:45:03 YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR CONFIRMATION.

11:45:08 FOR ME, LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS A CALLING, NOT A JOB OR A

11:45:09 PROFESSION.

11:45:14 AND 28 YEARS AGO, I WAS CALLED TO THE CITY OF TAMPA TO

11:45:16 SERVE THE CITIZENS.

11:45:20 I AM NOT YET DONE SERVING.

11:45:26 I DEEPLY CARE ABOUT THIS CITY, THE PEOPLE THAT CALL IT

11:45:26 HOME.

11:45:29 IN THE PAST FIVE WEEKS HAVE HELPED ME STRENGTHEN

11:45:33 EXISTING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE VERY MEMBERS OF THIS

11:45:36 CITY THAT CALL IT HOME.

11:45:39 I HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE TO BUILD NEW RELATIONSHIPS ALSO

11:45:42 ALONG THE WAY.

11:45:45 AS REPRESENTATIVES OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, IT IS

11:45:49 CRITICAL FOR THE POLICE CHIEF TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH

11:45:50 CITY COUNCIL.

11:45:53 SO THAT TOGETHER WE CAN ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS A

11:46:00 VOICE IN THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HOW IT OPERATES.

11:46:03 TODAY, WE HEARD FROM MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

11:46:05 AND THEY HAD SEVERAL CONCERNS.

11:46:09 WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW THIS COMMUNITY TO HAVE A

11:46:13 VOICE AT THE TABLE SO WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP

11:46:17 WITH REAL SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS.

11:46:20 I AM COMMITTED TO WORKING CLOSELY WITH YOU TO ACHIEVE

11:46:23 OUR GOALS.

11:46:27 AS THE NEXT CHIEF, I WANT TO REMAIN HYPER FOCUSED ON

11:46:29 MY FOUR PRIORITIES.

11:46:32 NUMBER ONE, I WANT TO WORK SIDE BY SIDE WITH ALL

11:46:35 COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

11:46:40 NUMBER TWO, I WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE TAMPA POLICE

11:46:43 DEPARTMENT OFFICERS HAVE A VERY ROBUST SAFETY AND

11:46:46 WELLNESS PROGRAM AVAILABLE TO THEM.

11:46:50 NUMBER THREE, I WANT TO REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME, BUT I

11:46:53 ALSO WANT TO REDUCE ALL CRIME.

11:46:56 AND NUMBER FOUR, I BELIEVE IN HAVING A STRONG QUALITY

11:47:00 ASSURANCES PLATFORM IN PLACE TO ENSURE EVERYONE IN THIS

11:47:04 CITY IS TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT THAT THEY

11:47:07 DESERVE.

11:47:09 AS I HAVE LEARNED FROM MY WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF

11:47:13 JUSTICE AND THE FBI, IT IS CRITICAL THAT THE POLICE

11:47:17 DEPARTMENT NOT ONLY SOLVE CRIME BUT IDENTIFY THE ROOT

11:47:22 CAUSES OF CRIME AND WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS INCLUDING

11:47:27 SOCIAL SERVICES TO ADDRESS THOSE ROOT CAUSES.

11:47:31 NOT ONLY DOES ADDRESSING THE ROOT CAUSES PREVENT CRIME,

11:47:34 IT EASES THE BURDEN ON OUR OFFICERS AND PROVIDES

11:47:38 FAMILIES WITH SERVICES AND HELP THAT THEY SO TRULY

11:47:41 NEED.

11:47:44 I AM SURROUNDED BY A TERRIFIC TEAM TO LEAD THE TAMPA

11:47:50 POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH ASSISTANT CHIEFS BERCAW AND

11:47:52 BUTCH DELGADO.

11:47:57 I VERY TRULY VALUE BUTCH AND ALL HE HAS DONE TO KEEP

11:48:01 THIS AGENCY MOVING FORWARD AS THE INTERIM CHIEF.

11:48:04 HE WILL CONTINUE TO PLAY A CRITICAL ROLE IN THE POLICE

11:48:08 DEPARTMENT'S LEADERSHIP AS WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO

11:48:11 ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS.

11:48:14 I HAVE 22 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE MOVING UP THROUGH THE

11:48:16 RANK AT THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

11:48:20 I RETIRED AS THE ASSISTANT CHIEF OF POLICE FIVE YEARS

11:48:21 AGO.

11:48:24 AND IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, I HAVE LEARNED AND SHARED

11:48:27 BEST PRACTICES IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSION AROUND

11:48:30 THE UNITED STATES.

11:48:34 I AM VERY EXCITED FOR THE BRIGHT FUTURE OF THE TAMPA

11:48:37 POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SERVING IN COMMUNITY THAT I LOVE.

11:48:40 AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE BEFORE YOU

11:48:41 TODAY.

11:48:42 THANK YOU.

11:48:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

11:48:45 WE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS.

11:48:46 WE WILL GO THIS WAY.

11:48:48 WE WILL GO WITH MR. MIRANDA.

11:48:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

11:48:52 I WANT TO SAY THAT THE PROCESS THAT I HAVE SEEN HERE

11:48:55 TODAY IS VERY DEMOCRATIC.

11:48:58 PEOPLE FROM ALL SIDES OF THE COMMUNITY.

11:49:00 AND SPEAK AND HOW THEY FELT PERSONALLY.

11:49:03 AND THAT MEANS A LOT TO ALL OF US ON THIS SIDE OF THE

11:49:04 DAIS.

11:49:08 SO ALL THOSE WHO CAME UP TODAY, THE 50 SOME, I

11:49:14 APPRECIATE YOU SAYING HOW YOU FELT WHETHER FOR OR

11:49:14 AGAINST.

11:49:16 AND THAT IS WHAT THE PROCESS IS ALL ABOUT.

11:49:18 THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL CONTEST.

11:49:21 AND EVEN IN POLITICAL CONTESTS, THERE ARE REALLY NO

11:49:22 LOSERS.

11:49:25 SOME GET ELECTED AND SOME GET NOT ENOUGH VOTES.

11:49:29 IF YOU LOOK AT THE DAIS AND SOME OF US GOT ELECTED THE

11:49:30 FIRST GO.

11:49:33 SOME OF US DIDN'T GET ELECTED THE FIRST GO.

11:49:36 SOME OF US DIDN'T GET ELECTED SECOND GO.

11:49:39 AND SOME OF US BARELY MADE IT ON THE THIRDS GO.

11:49:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AIN'T THAT THE TRUTH.

11:49:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I AM SAYING THAT THE PROCESS

11:49:47 WE ARE GOING THROUGH IS ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE

11:49:47 INDIFFERENCE.

11:49:50 DON'T GET ME WRONG WHEN I SAY THE SAME THING AS US.

11:49:54 WHEN OUR DEDICATED POLICE OFFICER -- AND WE HAVE MANY.

11:49:57 I THINK THAT IS WHY THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS GONE DOWN

11:50:02 IMMENSELY IN CRIME YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.

11:50:04 ONE OF THE LEADERS IN THE COUNTRY.

11:50:06 WITH RESPECT TO HAVE CITIZENS.

11:50:09 WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR POSITION IN LIFE.

11:50:11 WHY ARE PEOPLE MOVING HERE?

11:50:14 SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL, IT IS ABOUT YOUR SPORTS.

11:50:17 MAYBE THERE ARE SOME THAT MOVE HERE BECAUSE OF SPORTS.

11:50:21 BUT I WILL SAY THAT IS VERY MINIMAL.

11:50:23 WHEN YOU LOOK AT A CITY THAT HAS OPPORTUNITIES FOR

11:50:23 GROWTH.

11:50:27 OPPORTUNITIES FOR JOBS.

11:50:29 WE NEVER HAD TECH COMPANIES HERE.

11:50:31 WE NEVER HAD MUCH OF ANYTHING.

11:50:34 WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AND YOU START REALIZING WHERE WERE

11:50:37 YOU WHEN YOU STARTED THIS PROCESS AND BACK TO THE 70S

11:50:38 WITH MAYOR POPE.

11:50:41 I WORKED WITH FIVE DIFFERENT MAYORS.

11:50:42 WE HAVE SAID IT BEFORE.

11:50:44 THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS.

11:50:46 THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING THINGS.

11:50:48 THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES.

11:50:52 AND THEY HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON, AND THAT COMMON BOND

11:50:55 IS WHEN THEY LEAVE THE CITY, THEY WANT TO LEAVE THE

11:50:57 CITY BETTER THAN WHEN THEY GOT IT.

11:50:59 THAT COMPETITION TO ALWAYS STEP FORWARD AND MAKING IS

11:51:01 BETTER IS NOT EASY.

11:51:06 THOSE MAYORS HAVE ALWAYS WORKED WHETHER WE REALIZE IT

11:51:10 OR NOT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF SATURDAY.

11:51:15 DOWNTOWN FEW YEARS AGO WAS NOTHING.

11:51:19 THEY HAD MAYBE 605 PEOPLE LIVING HERE.

11:51:21 600 OF THEM WERE IN JAIL.

11:51:24 OPT OTHER FIVE WERE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO GET IN JAIL.

11:51:27 WHEN YOU LOOK AT YBOR CITY, YBOR CITY WAS NOT MUCH

11:51:28 EITHER.

11:51:33 YBOR CITY HAD THREE THINGS.

11:51:35 NOT NECESSARILY IN THIS ORDER WAY BACK.

11:51:36 NOT NOW.

11:51:39 DRUGS, PROSTITUTION AND TUMBLEWEEDS.

11:51:42 IT WASN'T UNTIL MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WERE INVESTED IN

11:51:43 THERE TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.

11:51:47 THERE HAVEN'T BEEN A NEW BUILDING BUILT IN YBOR CITY IN

11:51:49 YEARS.

11:51:52 NOW THERE IS A NEW BUILDING IN MOST PLACES GOING UP AT

11:51:53 ALL TIMES.

11:51:57 WHEN YOU LOOK AT DOWNTOWN, HOW MANY TALL BUILDINGS

11:52:00 HAVE COME UP?

11:52:04 LATELY NONE OR BIG, BIG BUILDINGS FOR COMMERCIAL.

11:52:07 BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, SQUARE

11:52:09 FOOTAGE BUILDING DOWNTOWN IN THE LAST 25 YEARS, WHICH

11:52:10 DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE.

11:52:14 THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME TO VISIT,

11:52:15 THEY STAY.

11:52:16 THEY LIKE IT.

11:52:18 YOU SEE, WE GOT RID OF ONE SQUAD.

11:52:23 AND THAT WAS A SQUAD THAT PUT DOWN THE SIDEWALKS AND

11:52:25 TOOK THEM UP AT 5:00 IN THE EVENING BECAUSE NO ONE

11:52:26 WALKING IN THEM.

11:52:29 DOWNTOWN WAS DEAD.

11:52:31 LOOK AT IT NOW.

11:52:33 USED TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE THIS LOT OR ANY OTHER LOT

11:52:36 WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING BECAUSE NO CARS DRIVING.

11:52:39 NOW YOU GOT TO BE ALL TOO CAREFUL.

11:52:48 AND THE CITY HAS GROWN AND HAS BECOME A BETTER PLACE TO

11:52:49 LIVE.

11:52:50 WHY DO PEOPLE RELOCATE.

11:52:54 I HAVE TO TELL YOU NOT FOR SPORTS 37 NOT EVEN FOR TOP

11:52:55 FIVE.

11:52:57 OPPORTUNITY, EDUCATION AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

11:53:00 AND LET ME GET THE HELL OUT OF THE SNOW.

11:53:03 SO WHEN YOU SEE, WE ONLY HAVE TWO SEASONS IN TAMPA.

11:53:05 THAT IS SUMMER AND CHRISTMAS.

11:53:09 AND IF PEOPLE WANT THAT WHEN YOU ARE MY AGE AND OLDER,

11:53:12 PEOPLE FROM NEW YORK, PEOPLE FROM THE NEW ENGLAND

11:53:14 STATES, MICHIGAN, OHIO.

11:53:18 THEY LOVE TO BE HERE.

11:53:19 I WANT TO SAY ONE THING.

11:53:22 IT IS INCUMBENT ON US TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.

11:53:23 AND I THINK WE HAVE.

11:53:25 WE HAVE HEARD A LOT FROM BOTH SIDES.

11:53:28 AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, MR.

11:53:28 CHAIRMAN.

11:53:29 THANK YOU.

11:53:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OF COURSE YOU ARE THE LEGEND OF THIS

11:53:32 COUNCIL.

11:53:36 YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME AND I HAVE UNDER FIRE.

11:53:40 AND I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

11:53:42 MR. VIERA.

11:53:42 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

11:53:44 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:53:48 I APPRECIATE THOSE WHO CAME OUT NOT ONLY OUT TODAY BUT

11:53:49 SENT E-MAILS AND CALLS.

11:53:52 I TRY TO BE VERY ENGAGING THE INQUIRIES.

11:53:56 BY THE WAY, Y'ALL, I AM GOING TO SPEAK FROM THE HEART.

11:53:57 I ALWAYS TRY TO SPEAK FROM THE HEART.

11:54:00 WE ARE HERE AS CITY COUNCIL EVERY DAY, BUT ESPECIALLY

11:54:03 TODAY, TO NOT ONLY SPEAK FROM THE HEART AND CALL BALLS

11:54:04 AND STRIKES.

11:54:07 IF I TICK OFF ONE SIDE AND THE OTHER AND BOTH SIDES IN

11:54:11 CALLING BALLS AND STRIKES IT IS INCUMBENT UPON US TO DO

11:54:11 THAT.

11:54:16 I THANK EVERYBODY FOR REACHING OUT BY E-MAIL, BY CALLS,

11:54:17 DIFFERENT WAYS, ETC.

11:54:20 YOU KNOW I PROMISE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING ON THIS I

11:54:21 WOULD BE FAIR.

11:54:22 THAT I WOULD BE REASONABLE.

11:54:47 THAT I WOULD APPLY SCRUTINY, RIGHT -- NO SEE CELT AND

11:54:49 SOME OF THE COMMENTS COME TODAY THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF

11:54:52 CHALLENGES AND WE GOT TO GET ON TRACK.

11:54:54 SOMETHING THAT SOME FOLKS TALKED ABOUT WAS THE WELL

11:54:58 GOING OF FIRST RESPONDERS IN THIS CASE, TAMPA POLICE

11:55:01 DEPARTMENT AND OUR ABILITY TO FIGHT CRIME, TO ENGAGE

11:55:03 THE COMMUNITY, TO SUPPORT VICTIMS OF CRIME AND GET

11:55:04 EVERYTHING ON TRACK.

11:55:06 FOR ME, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT ALWAYS HAS BEEN VERY

11:55:06 IMPORTANT.

11:55:10 A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE TALKED ABOUT CHIEF DELGADO.

11:55:11 A GREAT MAN.

11:55:12 A GREAT MAN.

11:55:16 THE -- THE SENTIMENTS THAT WERE EXPRESSED, RIGHT, WHEN

11:55:18 THE DECISION WAS MADE BY THE ADMINISTRATION SPEAK TO

11:55:20 WHAT A GREAT MAN HE IS.

11:55:25 I HAVE MADE REMARKS IN THAT REGARD BEFORE.

11:55:28 I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT IN DISPUTE HERE

11:55:32 AND I AM GOING TO SAY THAT I THINK THE PROCESS -- A LOT

11:55:33 OF FOLKS TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS.

11:55:35 I WANT TO DEFINE WHAT I MEAN ABOUT THE PROCESS IN A

11:55:39 LITTLE BIT BUT THE PROCESS HAS IN EFFECT UNDERMINED AND

11:55:41 WHICH IS WE ARE DEALING WITH A STRONG WOMAN.

11:55:43 WE ARE DEALING WITH A GOOD WOMAN WHO IS DEDICATED

11:55:49 ALMOST A QUARTER CENTURY TO TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT,

11:55:50 RIGHT.

11:55:52 WHEN I LOOK AT THE RECORD OF MARY O'CONNOR, I AM THE

11:55:57 KIND OF PERSON WHO I SAY THANK YOU TO PEOPLE WHO PUT

11:55:59 THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY.

11:56:02 WEATHER IT IS THE MILITARY, FIRE FIGHTERS OR COPS.

11:56:03 WE OUGHT TO SAY THANK YOU.

11:56:06 WE SHOULD SAY THANK YOU TO MARY O'CONNOR FOR HER

11:56:07 SERVICE 110%.

11:56:08 I DON'T THINK THAT IS IN DISPUTE.

11:56:10 A RECORD SHE SHOULD BE PROUD OF.

11:56:12 I SEE HER FAMILY HERE.

11:56:14 A RECORD THAT HER SON, DAUGHTER AND HUSBAND SHOULD BE

11:56:17 PROUD OF AND I KNOW THAT THEY ARE.

11:56:21 BUT WE WOULD ALSO, AGAIN, CALLING BALL AND STRIKES.

11:56:23 THERE IS THE PROCESS.

11:56:24 PROCESS.

11:56:27 THE RESPONSE WE HAVE SEEN FROM MEMBERS OF THE

11:56:31 COMMUNITY, RIGHT, SOME OF WHOM BEGAN WITH SOME MORE

11:56:34 CAUSTIC RESPONSES THAT KIND OF COME TO THE MIDDLE SPEAK

11:56:39 TO A PROCESS THAT WAS, I BELIEVE, MISHANDLED.

11:56:43 I BELIEVE IT WAS MISHANDLED WHETHER ENGAGING TO TAMPA

11:56:46 CITY COUNCIL ON CERTAIN ISSUES, CHALLENGES IN PARTS OF

11:56:48 WEST TAMPA, ETSD.

11:56:51 I THINK THAT PROCESS WAS MISHANDLED, RIGHT.

11:56:55 MY POSITION IS THAT WE CAN DIVORCE THAT PROCESS WHICH

11:56:58 HAS BEEN MISHANDLED THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH THROUGH

11:57:00 CHANGES, RIGHT.

11:57:03 THERE ARE LEGAL CHANGES THAT CAN HAPPEN, ETC.

11:57:06 THERE ARE LESSON THAT CAN BE LEARNED FROM THIS THAT WE

11:57:07 SHOULD SPEAK OF.

11:57:12 AGAIN, NOT JUST LESSONS LEARNED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS BUT

11:57:14 LESSONS TO BE HEARD IN PUBLIC.

11:57:16 THAT WE DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN

11:57:18 CLEARLY MISHANDLED.

11:57:23 AND BY THE WAY, IF SOMEBODY SAYS THE PROCESS HAS BEEN

11:57:26 MISHANDLED, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.

11:57:28 I THINK IT HAS BEEN, 110%.

11:57:29 I THINK IT HAS BEEN.

11:57:33 BUT HAS NO DIRECT BEARING ON THIS WOMAN'S RECORD AND

11:57:35 HOW WE SHOULD REACT IN THAT REGARD.

11:57:40 YOU KNOW A LOT HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT MRS. O'CONNOR,

11:57:43 CHIEF-NOMINEE O'CONNOR AND HER RECORD.

11:57:46 I THINK WE NEED TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE PROCESS AND

11:57:49 THE VERY, VERY GOOD RECORD OF THIS WOMAN.

11:57:51 I THINK THERE IS A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS WE HAVE TO ASK

11:57:54 OURSELVES, WHICH IS, NUMBER ONE, CAN WE HAVE A VOTE

11:57:57 THAT ACKNOWLEDGES HER REMARKABLE CAREER WITH TPD.

11:57:59 A VOTE THAT RESPECTS HER RECORD.

11:58:03 BUT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CALL THAT RECORD INTO TASK FOR

11:58:07 THE PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN CLEARLY MISHANDLED.

11:58:09 I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO THAT.

11:58:13 ANOTHER BIG ISSUE IS -- AND I HAVE 30 SECONDS, IS

11:58:16 DEESCALATION OF WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF

11:58:18 TAMPA.

11:58:21 DEALING WITH ISSUES IN A RESPONSIBLE, CALM WAY, THE

11:58:24 REASONABLENESS, THROUGH LEADERSHIP, BY BEING CALM, ETC.

11:58:27 WE CAN ALL -- ALL SIX OF US WORKING WITH THE

11:58:31 ADMINISTRATION CAN DEAL WITH THE ISSUES OF THE PROCESS

11:58:31 RESPONSIBLY.

11:58:38 I WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT WHILE NOT UNDERMINING, IN

11:58:41 EFFECT, -- OR EFFECT THIS WOMAN'S RECORD.

11:58:43 THANK YOU, SIR.

11:58:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

11:58:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:58:51 I HAVE TO DISCUSS ON SO MANY LEVELS WHAT IS GOING ON IN

11:58:53 FRONT OF US TODAY.

11:58:57 I AM NOT GOING TO BE KIND ON SOME OF THEM.

11:59:01 THE STRONGEST PERSON IN THIS ROOM, BUTCH DELGADO.

11:59:04 BUTCH, THANK YOU FOR SERVING THE PEOPLE.

11:59:05 AND THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

11:59:10 AND THE WAY YOU HAVE DONE FOR ALL THESE YEARS.

11:59:14 I AM HOPING ONE DAY I AM SITTING ON THIS DAIS WHEN YOUR

11:59:15 TIME COMES.

11:59:18 THANK YOU, MY FRIEND.

11:59:22 IN ALL THE CALLS THAT I HAVE RECEIVED, AND I AM SURE

11:59:27 THAT WE ALL HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF PHONE CALLS, A

11:59:36 CAUCASIAN WOMAN SAID TO ME, COUNCILMAN CITRO, MY PICK

11:59:41 WOULD HAVE BEEN DELGADO BECAUSE HE SPEAKS SPANISH.

11:59:46 THE POPULATION IN THIS CITY IS RISING FASTER THAN ANY

11:59:49 OTHER POPULATION AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MAJOR ASSET

11:59:56 FOR ANY CHIEF OF POLICE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

12:00:02 MISS O'CONNOR, YOU AND I HAVE MET ON SEVERAL TIMES.

12:00:06 AND THE SECOND TIME WE MET, I WAS VERY HARSH ON YOU.

12:00:08 AND I TRIED TO GIVE YOU ADVICE.

12:00:13 FIRST THING I SAID IS, MARY, YOU NEED TO STEP BACK.

12:00:17 YOU NEED TO REGROUP.

12:00:20 YOU NEED TO GET RECLASSIFIED.

12:00:24 YOU NEED TO GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.

12:00:30 YOU NEED TO TOUCH BASE WITH RELIGION ORGANIZATIONS.

12:00:33 YOU NEED TO TOUCH BASE WITH ALL THE CHAMBERS.

12:00:37 YOU NEED TO GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY.

12:00:41 BASICALLY WHAT YOU TOLD ME WAS NO, I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

12:00:47 MARY, YOU HAVE DONE THE CHECKLIST.

12:00:52 YOU HAVE GONE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

12:00:53 YOU HAVE GONE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

12:01:00 YOU HAVE GONE TO THE CHAMBERS.

12:01:04 I GAVE YOU NAMES.

12:01:09 YOU ARE REINSTATED, CLASSIFIED.

12:01:22 THAT'S A MESSAGE.

12:01:24 MR. CHAIR, I AM GATHERING MORE THOUGHTS HERE.

12:01:33 YOU HAVE A STELLAR RECORD, MS. O'CONNOR.

12:01:37 I HAVE ALWAYS -- AND I SAID THIS IN THE PAST AND THERE ARE

12:01:41 MANY PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, MANY PEOPLE WATCHING ON TV AND

12:01:44 HEARD ME SAY THIS, I WILL ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS STAND

12:01:47 BEHIND THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS A WHOLE.

12:01:55 BUT THE MOMENT ONE OFFICER STEPS OUT OF LINE.

12:02:04 NOW I AM GOING TO TURN TO CHIEF OF STAFF.




12:02:15 THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED THIS

12:02:19 PROCESS AND STATE ATTORNEY, PUBLIC DEFENDER, SHERIFF'S

12:02:22 OFFICE.

12:02:25 THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT SHE MAY HAVE TO WORK WITH ON A

12:02:30 DAILY -- ON A MOMENT TO MOMENT BASIS.

12:02:37 ANOTHER PERSON, TOO.

12:02:38 THE CHAIRMAN OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

12:02:43 ALL THESE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, IN MY

12:02:45 HUMBLE OPINION.

12:02:50 AND THERE IS ONE MORE THING THAT I HAVE TO SAY, SOMETHING

12:02:57 THAT THE RUDEST COMMENT I EVER HEARD.

12:03:02 HOW COULD SEVEN MEN STAND IN THE WAY OF A WOMAN BEING

12:03:05 CONFIRMED?

12:03:11 ALL THESE MEN UP HERE ON THE DAIS CONFIRMED THREE WOMEN AS

12:03:18 DEPARTMENT HEADS.

12:03:22 CHIEF TRIPP, A WOMAN OF COLOR, IS NOW CHIEF OF FIRE RESCUE.

12:03:26 [ APPLAUSE ]

12:03:33 SHARIS HILL, A WOMAN OF COLOR, PARKS AND RECREATION.

12:03:37 AND I DO BELIEVE I SAW MRS. OCEA WYNN.

12:03:42 ALL WOMEN OF COLOR.

12:03:46 SO THAT STATEMENT OFFENDS ME, AND I HOPE IT OFFENDS THE REST

12:03:55 OF THE MEMBERS ON THIS DAIS.

12:03:59 MS. O'CONNOR, I WISH YOU ALL THE LUCK IN THE WORLD.

12:04:03 I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE DONE THE THINGS THAT I

12:04:06 ASKED YOU TO DO, THAT YOU FIRST REFUSED, WITH THE EXCEPTION




12:04:11 OF STANDING BACK.

12:04:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S YOUR TIME, SIR.

12:04:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.

12:04:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES THUS FAR FOR

12:04:23 THEIR COMMENTS.

12:04:27 MAY 1st, 2009 I WAS OUT WITH FRIENDS IN HYDE PARK, CINCO

12:04:31 DE MAYO.

12:04:33 ALL OF THEM WERE DRINKING.

12:04:34 I WAS NOT DRINKING.

12:04:36 AS I LEFT GOING UP HOWARD AVENUE I RAN A RED LIGHT.

12:04:40 I WAS EITHER GOING TO SLAM ON MY BRAKES OR GET REAR-ENDED.

12:04:43 I TOOK THE LIGHT.

12:04:45 I WAS PULLED OVER BY TPD.

12:04:47 THE OFFICER ASKED ME TO STEP OUT OF THE VEHICLE, ASKED ME IF

12:04:50 I HAD BEEN DRINKING.

12:04:51 ALL I HAD WAS DIET COKE.

12:04:53 THAT'S WHAT I DRANK AT THE TIME.

12:04:55 I NO LONGER DRINK SODA.

12:04:57 AND THEN HE ASKED ME TO WALK A STRAIGHT LINE.

12:05:00 I GUESS IT'S WHAT YOU CALL THE SOMEBODY BRIGHT TEST.

12:05:04 THEN HE ASKED ME DO YOU TAKE ANY MEDICATION?

12:05:07 HAVE YOU HAD MUCH SLEEP?

12:05:08 I SAID I WORK TWO JOBS AND THIS IS THE MY FIRST DAY OFF.

12:05:11 I WAS OUT WITH FRIENDS.

12:05:12 HE SAID GO HOME AND GET SOME SLEEP.




12:05:14 HOWEVER, ONE OF THE OFFICERS DECIDED TO ARREST ME.

12:05:18 NOT A CONVICTION, BUT AN ARREST ON SUSPICION OF WHATEVER,

12:05:22 DUI.

12:05:23 I WAS ALREADY PLANNING TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL IN 2011.

12:05:27 THIS IS THE YEAR BEFORE I FILED.

12:05:28 HAD I BEEN ARRESTED, JUST AN ARREST, WOULD I HAVE -- WHAT I

12:05:33 EVEN FILE TO RUN?

12:05:35 PROBABLY NOT BECAUSE I FIGURED MY FUTURE, WHO IS GOING TO

12:05:38 TAKE ME SERIOUSLY?

12:05:40 AS A MATTER OF FACT ONE OF THE NEWSPAPERS IN 2010, 2011

12:05:42 LOOKED BACK INTO CANDIDATES' PAST FOR CITY COUNCIL TO SEE

12:05:46 WHO GOT ARRESTED AND WHATNOT.

12:05:47 MY NAME WOULD HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN ON THAT LIST.

12:05:49 AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS I WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE

12:05:52 TODAY HAD THE CIRCUMSTANCES BEEN DIFFERENT.

12:05:54 I GOT ELECTED IN 2015 AND I WANTED TO HIRE A LEGISLATIVE

12:05:57 AIDE AND IT WAS BLOCKED ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP BECAUSE THAT

12:06:01 LEGISLATIVE AIDE HAD A DUI ARREST.

12:06:04 AS I UNDERSTAND IT, A DUI IS A MISDEMEANOR, KNOW IT A

12:06:08 FELONY, I THINK.

12:06:08 AND THEY WOULDN'T LET ME HIRE THIS INDIVIDUAL.

12:06:12 I WAS WITHOUT AN AID FOR ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AND I HAD TO

12:06:15 CHOOSE SOMEBODY ELSE.

12:06:16 I HAD A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AIDE NOW.

12:06:20 THERE'S THAT.




12:06:20 SOMEBODY CLOSE TO ME NOT TOO LONG AGO WITH THE SHERIFF'S

12:06:23 OFFICE, AS A DEPUTY, GOT A DUI, AND WAS THIRD, AND APPEALED

12:06:28 IT ALL THE WAY TO THE SHERIFF, A WAS NOT GIVEN THE JOB BACK

12:06:32 AND HAD TO MOVE OUT OF TOWN.

12:06:33 AND IS NO LONGER HERE.

12:06:37 I HAVE BEEN HERE SEARCH YEARS, AND I HAVE STRUGGLED WITH

12:06:40 SOME VOTES.

12:06:41 SOME VOTES ARE EASIER THAN OTHERS.

12:06:43 I THINK THE MOST DIFFICULT VOTE WAS THE STORMWATER VOTE IN

12:06:47 SEPTEMBER 2016 BECAUSE I GOT HELL FOR THAT, BUT IT WHATS THE

12:06:50 RIGHT THING TO DO.

12:06:52 THIS VOTE IS PROBABLY THE SECOND MOST DIFFICULT VOTE I HAVE

12:06:55 HAD TO TAKE, BECAUSE OF THE OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF PEOPLE

12:06:59 THAT ARE CONTACTING MY OFFICE BY E-MAIL, BY PHONE, AS WAS

12:07:05 MENTIONED, I GO TO GET A SALAD, I GET STOPPED, I GET A CUP

12:07:10 OF COFFEE, I GET STOPPED, THE MOST RANDOM INDIVIDUALS

12:07:13 CONTACT ME THAT I HAVE NEVER MET BEFORE TO DISCUSS THIS

12:07:15 ISSUE WITH ME.

12:07:18 SOMETHING HAPPENED HERE IN 1995.

12:07:22 I MENTIONED THINGS IN THE PAST OF OTHER PEOPLE IN A

12:07:25 SITUATION I WAS IN BUT I DIDN'T GET IN TROUBLE FOR IT

12:07:28 BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING, BUT STILL CIRCUMSTANCES COULD

12:07:30 BE DIFFERENT.

12:07:31 WHAT I STRUGGLE WITH THE VOTE, I TURN TO GOD.

12:07:35 I'M A PERSON OF FAITH AND I PRAY.




12:07:37 AND I ASK OTHER PEOPLE THEIR ADVICE, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

12:07:41 I BELIEVE IN SECOND CHANCES.

12:07:43 BUT AGAIN, NOT EVERYBODY GETS A SECOND CHANCE.

12:07:47 AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CIRCUMSTANCES WITH CHIEF

12:07:50 O'CONNOR WHO IS STANDING BEFORE US, AND WHAT HAPPENED IN

12:07:53 1995.

12:07:54 BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT HER CAREER AFTERWARDS.

12:07:58 SHE WAS FIRED AND THEN HAD HER JOB REINSTATED, AND THE

12:08:02 CAREER AFTER THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERSONNEL FILE AS SOME

12:08:05 PEOPLE HAVE, I THINK -- I DON'T THINK THERE'S A BLEMISH ON

12:08:09 IT.

12:08:10 YOU HAVE HAD PEOPLE COME OUT SPEAKING FOR IT THAT HAVE

12:08:14 WORKED ALONGSIDE HER, AND IN ALL CAPACITIES.

12:08:18 WE HAVE USED THE WORD PROCESS OVERWHELMINGLY TODAY, AND IT'S

12:08:23 PROBABLY THE MOST USED WORD I HAVE HEARD IN THE LAST MONTH.

12:08:26 THE PROCESS IS FLAWED.

12:08:30 I WAS THERE AT THE PUBLIC FORUM WITH THE TWO OUT OF THREE

12:08:34 CANDIDATES, CHIEF DELGADO WAS NOT THERE FOR FAMILY ISSUES

12:08:39 AND IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

12:08:40 AND I DON'T KNOW YOU VERY WELL, SIR.

12:08:42 YOU ARE A NICE GUY.

12:08:44 WE HAVE HAD TWO CONVERSATIONS, ONE IN THE PHONE AND ONE IN

12:08:46 PERSON.

12:08:46 THAT'S ALL I KNOW.

12:08:47 BUT THE PEOPLE OF WEST TAMPA LOVE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.




12:08:50 I DON'T KNOW THEM.

12:08:54 BUT FROM EVERYTHING THEY HAVE SAID YOUR REPUTATION SPEAKS

12:08:57 FOR ITSELF.

12:08:57 NOTHING BUT POSITIVE THINGS.

12:08:59 I WENT UP TO MARY O'CONNOR, I SAID YOU HAVE DONE A NICE JOB,

12:09:04 WHAT A NICE END WHEN YOU CLOSED IT OUT.

12:09:08 MAYOR CASTOR SAID MARY O'CONNOR, MARY O'CONNOR.

12:09:11 I GAVE CHIEF O'CONNOR OH HER COMMENDATION WHEN SHE RETIRED

12:09:15 FROM TPD.

12:09:16 AND WE HAVE A GREAT PICTURE TOGETHER.

12:09:18 SO I STRUGGLE WITH THIS VOTE BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY HUGE

12:09:22 ISSUES FACING US.

12:09:24 WE HAVE SIX COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE.

12:09:25 WE HAVE NEXT WEEK IS GOING TO BE CRAZY.

12:09:28 THE WEEK AFTER IS GOING TO BE CRAZY AND THEN WE GET TO A

12:09:31 POINTS --

12:09:32 [BELL SOUNDS]

12:09:32 ALMOST DONE.

12:09:33 SO IS IT WORTH THE BATTLE TO DENY SOMEBODY?

12:09:35 IS IT WORTH IT?

12:09:37 AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS TO HAVE A 3-3 VOTE AND SEE WHERE IT

12:09:41 GOES FROM THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE SIX PEOPLE NOW.

12:09:44 YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, DO WE LIKE THE PROCESS? NO.

12:09:48 IS EVERYBODY HAPPY?

12:09:49 NO.




12:09:50 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID IN SO MANY WAYS, IN SO MANY WORDS,

12:09:53 EVERYBODY LEAVES UNHAPPY.

12:09:55 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

12:09:56 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

12:09:57 NOBODY WINS, NORTHBOUND LOSES.

12:10:01 AGAIN THIS IS A L IS A VERY DIFFICULT VOTE BECAUSE OF THE

12:10:03 OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE REACHED OUT IN ALL

12:10:06 ASPECTS.

12:10:07 AND I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

12:10:09 AND I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE PEOPLE.

12:10:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

12:10:16 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ECHO SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES

12:10:19 COMMENTS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY THING.

12:10:20 THANKS EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TODAY ESPECIALLY FOR THE

12:10:23 FRIENDS OF CHIEF NOMINEE O'CONNOR FOR COMING OUT.

12:10:28 WE MET A COUPLE DAYS AGO.

12:10:30 SHE SAID, ARE YOU OKAY, DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE BAD FORM IF

12:10:34 A BUNCH OF MY FRIENDS CAME?

12:10:35 AND I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE SO I THANK YOU FOR

12:10:38 BRINGING THEM.

12:10:38 LISTENING TO SOMEBODY WHO HAS KNOWN YOU FOR 20 OR 30 YEARS

12:10:41 IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN A LOBBYIST GIVING A BUSINESS

12:10:45 PERSON WHO COMES UP HERE TO SAY SOMETHING SO I THOUGHT THAT

12:10:47 WAS VERY VALUABLE SO THANKS TO ALL OF THEM.

12:10:50 I WANT TO THANK BUTCH DELGADO ALSO.




12:10:54 LES GREAT TO WORK WITH AND VERY POPULAR.

12:10:56 MOST IMPORTANTLY HE HELPED US GET RID OF THE RACIST POLICY

12:10:59 OF THE LAST ADMINISTRATION RENTING WHILE BLACK AND WE

12:11:02 BROUGHT THAT IN FOR A LANDING.

12:11:04 AND CHIEF NOMINEE O'CONNOR A COUPLE OF TIMES, VERY IMPRESSED

12:11:12 WITH YOU AND YOUR BACKGROUND, AND SHE COMMITTED TO CIVIL

12:11:15 RIGHTS AND TO CONTINUE TO END THOSE RACIST POLICIES FROM THE

12:11:19 LAST ADMINISTRATION.

12:11:20 ONE WAS BIKING WHILE BLACK, RENTING WHILE BLACK, AND THERE

12:11:23 ARE OTHERS.

12:11:24 WE ALL KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AND WE CANNOT GO FORWARD, THIS

12:11:26 COMMUNITY CANNOT SUCCEED IF WE HAVE RACIAL OPPRESSION.

12:11:30 AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, GO TO

12:11:32 TAMPASCORECARD.COM AND YOU WILL SEE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS

12:11:36 DURING THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC BOON IN AMERICAN HISTORY, TAMPA

12:11:38 FAILED ECONOMICALLY.

12:11:39 IF YOU LOOK AT THE CENSUS DATA.

12:11:42 I WANT TO WELCOME, I THINK, MS. O'CONNOR'S KIDS ARE HERE, I

12:11:46 WANT TO WELCOME THEM.

12:11:47 I MADE A COMMITMENT TO HER IN THE BEGINNING.

12:11:49 I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BAD TO SAY ABOUT HER IN ANY WAY BUT I

12:11:52 SAID I AM NOT SAYING ANYTHING BAD ABOUT YOU BECAUSE YOUR

12:11:56 KIDS READ THE PAPER.

12:11:57 MY KIDS ALSO READ IT.

12:11:59 AND THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS LEAKED INFORMATION TO CAUSE




12:12:03 MISLEADING STORIES ABOUT ME AND I KNOW THAT PAIN AND I AM

12:12:05 NOT GOING TO DO THAT TO YOU, I WOULD NOT DO THAT TO YOU.

12:12:07 IF I HAVE A DISPUTE WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE I AM GOING TO

12:12:09 CALL YOU AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ABOUT IT.

12:12:12 OTHER MEMBERS HERE HAVE READ NEGATIVE NEWS THAT THE

12:12:14 ADMINISTRATION HAS LEAKED AS WELL, INCLUDING A FORMER

12:12:18 COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER, WHO THE STAFF LEAKED ON MONDAY

12:12:20 AFTER HE WAS NO LONGER A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

12:12:23 I THINK THAT'S DESPICABLE.

12:12:25 TODAY, I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT CANDIDATE, BUT I HAVE TO SET

12:12:29 THAT ASIDE AND TALK ABOUT PROCESS.

12:12:32 AND REALLY IT'S NOT JUST PROCESS.

12:12:33 IT'S ABOUT DEMOCRACY.

12:12:34 DEMOCRACY IS AT RISK IN THIS CITY, AND MOST OF THE CALLS I

12:12:38 AM GETTING ARE NOT ABOUT CANDIDATES.

12:12:40 IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING DEMOCRACY IN THIS CITY.

12:12:42 THE PROCESS WAS NOT TRANSPARENT.

12:12:45 IT WAS DISRESPECTFUL.

12:12:46 NOT JUST OF COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY DISRESPECTFUL OF COUNCIL BUT

12:12:49 DISRESPECTFUL TO THE PUBLIC.

12:12:51 AND IN OUR MEETING A FEW WEEKS AGO WE GAVE FEEDBACK IF WE

12:12:56 DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY IN PARTICULAR WE WHAT TOAD PICK AND

12:12:59 WOULD YOU THINK THE NEXT RESPONSE WOULD BE THAT THE MAYOR

12:13:01 WOULD CALL EACH OF US AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE APOLOGIZE, WE

12:13:05 ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE PROCESS, WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER?




12:13:08 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MY COLLEAGUES I.DIDN'T GET A SCHEDULE.

12:13:11 I UNDER THERE WAS NOT A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT CAMPAIGN, BUT A

12:13:14 CAMPAIGN WHERE FRIENDS OF THE ADMINISTRATION, STAFF AND

12:13:17 LOBBYISTS STRONG ARMED PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC TO TELL THEM

12:13:21 THAT THEY SHOULD SUPPORT THIS CANDIDATE.

12:13:23 AND THE CANDIDATE WAS NOT DOING THAT BUT SOMEBODY AROUND THE

12:13:26 MAYOR WAS DOING IT.

12:13:27 WHY?

12:13:28 AND THEN THEY JUSTIFIED SAYING WE HAVE A STRONG MAYOR FORM

12:13:31 OF GOVERNMENT.

12:13:31 IT'S NOT A DICTATORSHIP.

12:13:33 WE DID THAT FOR EIGHT YEARS.

12:13:35 WE CANNOT GO BACK TO THAT SITUATION.

12:13:37 IN AMERICA, I IN AMERICA WE BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY, BALANCE OF

12:13:41 POWERS.

12:13:42 A STRONG MAYOR OF FORM OF GOVERNMENT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T

12:13:44 LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC OR LISTEN TO CITY COUNCIL.

12:13:47 SO THEN WE GET FEEDBACK AGAIN AND WE TRY TO BE RESPECTFUL OF

12:13:51 IT AND MY EXPECTATION WAS WE'LL GET AN OLIVE BRANCH, AN

12:13:56 APOLOGY, A PHONE CALL, A NEW PROCESS.

12:13:59 INSTEAD, PEOPLE AROUND THE MAYOR STARTED INTRODUCING THE

12:14:02 CHIEF NOMINEE AS THE POLICE CHIEF AND THEN WE GO FARTHER TO

12:14:07 SAY YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO CALL HER A NOMINEE.

12:14:09 IT HAS TO DO WITH DISRESPECTING THE PUBLIC AND CITY COUNCIL.

12:14:15 IT'S --




12:14:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCILMAN IS SPEAKING.

12:14:22 WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT.

12:14:22 >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEN WE WERE ATTACKED FOR CONSISTENTLY

12:14:28 IN THE MEDIA, MISLEADING COMMENTS, SEVEN MEMBER OF TAMPA,

12:14:34 PRO WOMAN, ALL KIND OF NEGATIVE THINGS CAME OUT, BY THE WAY,

12:14:37 WE APPROVED THE NOMINEE AND WE DID SO IN GOOD FAITH THINKING

12:14:43 THAT THAT PERSON WOULD BE COLLABORATIVE WITH US.

12:14:45 THE "ST. PETE TIMES," TAMPA BAY TIMES CAME OUT FOR THE

12:14:52 INCREDIBLY DIVISIVE COMMENTS THAT THAT PERSON ON BEHALF OF

12:14:57 THE MAYOR.

12:14:57 AND THEN THAN THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT,

12:15:00 BUT WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION WORKS TO SABOTAGE SEVERAL

12:15:05 SITTING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND LEAK INFORMATION THAT

12:15:07 CAUSES A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO HAVE TO RESIGN THAT IS

12:15:10 DESPICABLE.

12:15:11 THE PUBLIC WANTS THE ADMINISTRATION TO STOP THE ATTACKS,

12:15:13 THEY WANT THE ADMINISTRATION TO STOP THE POLITICS, THEY WANT

12:15:16 THE ADMINISTRATION TO STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES, STOP

12:15:20 DIVISIVENESS AND STOP THE CONTROVERSIES.

12:15:22 WE NEED TO HAVE DEMOCRACY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

12:15:24 WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.

12:15:26 AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENED BY THE WAY IF YOU VOTE YES BECAUSE

12:15:28 YOU WANT TO GET ON THE GOD SIDE OF THE ADMINISTRATION.

12:15:31 I VOTED YES ON HANNA AVENUE, SO DID DINGFELDER, ONE OF THE

12:15:35 WORST POLICY THINGS IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND




12:15:38 WE STILL GOT ATTACKED AND DINGFELDER IS NO LONGER ON CITY

12:15:40 COUNCIL.

12:15:41 I WOULD ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO START OVER, BE RESPECTFUL

12:15:45 OF THE PUBLIC, TO CITY COUNCIL, BE RESPECTFUL OF THE BALANCE

12:15:48 OF POWERS IN THIS COMMUNITY, ALWAYS BE RESPECTFUL OF

12:15:51 DEMOCRACY IN THIS COUNTRY.

12:15:52 THANK YOU.

12:15:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

12:15:54 [ APPLAUSE ]

12:15:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT.

12:16:04 MY COLLEAGUES, MS. O'CONNOR, IT'S NOT PERSONAL.

12:16:11 I WAS UPSET YESTERDAY WHEN I CALLED CHIEF BENNETT AT HOME,

12:16:17 AND THE COMMENT THAT I WOULDN'T MEET WITH YOU WHEN I MET

12:16:21 WITH YOU PREVIOUSLY, BUT I GET CALLS, PEOPLE TELLING ME

12:16:31 THINGS ABOUT AN INVESTIGATION.

12:16:33 HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?

12:16:42 HOW DO THEY KNOW THAT?

12:16:44 WE DON'T DO THIS, WE HAVE GOT TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE A

12:16:47 LOT OF PROJECTS ON THE TABLE AND THE MAYOR MAY NOT GIVE YOU

12:16:50 A PROJECT.

12:16:52 BUT I TELL YOU, MY FRIENDS, YOU KNOW, COMPROMISE WITH THE

12:16:59 ADMINISTRATION, COMPROMISE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, ON

12:17:04 SEVERAL ISSUES.

12:17:08 I BEG YOU TO STAND WITH YOUR CHAIRMAN BEHIND ME TO SUPPORT

12:17:12 THE ADMINISTRATION.




12:17:19 WE FEEL DISRESPECTED.

12:17:21 TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

12:17:23 MR. BENNETT WORKED WITH US.

12:17:26 BUT I KNOW SOMETIMES HE HAS TO STAY IN HIS LANE.

12:17:30 YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE POWERS THAT BE THAT WORK WITH THE

12:17:33 ADMINISTRATION TO SAY HEY, YOU HAVE TO GO THIS WAY.

12:17:37 YOU DON'T LIKE CONTROVERSY, LIKES TO WORK THINGS OUT.

12:17:41 BUT THE POWER BEHIND IT, GOING ON WITH THIS COUNCIL, SICK OF

12:17:46 IT.

12:17:47 I TOLD YOU YESTERDAY, I SAID YOU ARE A CASUALTY.

12:17:52 I SAID IT AIN'T YOUR FAULT, BUT YOU MIGHT BE A CASUALTY IN

12:17:56 THIS PROCESS.

12:17:57 BUT IT'S NOT PERSONAL ISSUE.

12:17:59 IT'S NOT.

12:18:01 IT'S NOT PERSONAL AT ALL.

12:18:03 I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHER MEMBERS WILL VOTE, BUT YOU MAY BE A

12:18:08 CASUALTY TODAY.

12:18:09 AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE A GOOD RECORD.

12:18:13 YOU HAD A BLEMISH.

12:18:15 I GOT COMPLAINTS.

12:18:22 SO I KNOW THE WITCH HUNT IS ON.

12:18:23 BUT THAT'S OKAY.

12:18:24 I'M A SOLDIER.

12:18:27 I CAN DO IT FOR MY COMMUNITY.

12:18:30 I SEE BRIAN BACK THERE.




12:18:31 BUT WHAT I DIDN'T SEE TODAY, NOT ONE, NOT ONE BLACK OFFICER

12:18:38 COME HERE.

12:18:40 I AIN'T SEEN ONE.

12:18:44 BUT CHIEF BENNETT EARLIER, AFTER SO MANY DAYS, I ASKED CHIEF

12:18:57 BENNETT, WHICH WAY ARE YOU COMING TODAY?

12:19:05 I TAKE HIM AT HIS WORD BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHEN, THEY

12:19:10 FOLLOW ORDERS.

12:19:11 THERE MIGHT BE SOME THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT BUT THE

12:19:17 POLICE DEPARTMENT IS A MILITARY ORGANIZATION.

12:19:19 NO MATTER WHO THE CHIEF, THEY ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THEIR

12:19:21 ORDER.

12:19:22 I TOLD MARY YESTERDAY, YOU MAY BE IN WITH THE CHIEF BUT THE

12:19:28 CHARTER SAYS, YOU MAY THE CHIEF IN THEORY BUT AIN'T ACHIEVE

12:19:35 BECAUSE I TALK TO OTHER CHIEFS.

12:19:40 THINGS I WANT TO CHANGE, I CAN'T CHANGE, BECAUSE I HAVE TO

12:19:42 FOLLOW ORDERS.

12:19:44 MY BOSS.

12:19:46 I LIKE YOU, MARY, BUT THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN.

12:19:52 AT THIS TIME PROCESS.

12:19:53 THEY FELT DISRESPECTED.

12:19:56 AS CHAIRMAN, I THINK I HAVE HAD THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL

12:20:00 ISSUES THIS YEAR AS THE CHAIRMAN OF ALL THE ISSUES THAT HAVE

12:20:03 COME UP, AND I HAVE BEEN A CHAMPION BECAUSE I GET OVER THEM.

12:20:08 I THINK I HAVE BEEN A CHAMPION TO GET OVER THEM.

12:20:12 WE HAVE A LOT OF TOUGH ISSUES.




12:20:17 AND THIS IS THE TOUGHEST ONE I WOULD HAVE TO MAKE BUT I HAVE

12:20:20 TO LOOK AT MARY ANN LEWIS WHO IS A STRONG SUPPORTER FOR THE

12:20:26 POLICE DEPARTMENT, EVER COME TO MARY, BUT COULDN'T MAKE

12:20:32 MAJOR.

12:20:33 COULDN'T MAKE MAJOR.

12:20:36 YOU KNOW, WE HAD A DEAL MADE AT ONE TIME WHEN ONE MAYOR WAS

12:20:41 RUNNING, PROMISED HE WOULD BE AT THE TABLE.

12:20:43 AND WE GOT BAMBOOZLED.

12:20:45 AND LOOK AT SAM JONES, COULD NEVER MAKE MAJOR.

12:20:48 HE WAS THE MOST DISCIPLINED GUY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

12:20:55 AND NEVER COULD GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO THE TOP BECAUSE

12:20:57 OTHER POWERS TOLD THE CHIEF YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT GUY MAJOR.

12:21:02 AND GONZALEZ CAME IN, CHANGED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT,

12:21:06 DIVERSIFIED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE HE WAS SOMEONE

12:21:10 NEW, HAD DIFFERENT IDEAS AND CAME HERE, AND MET SAM JONES, A

12:21:13 STRONG OF CAR THEFTS GOING ON, AND CAME IN AND SAID MAKE SAM

12:21:21 JONES THE CAPTAIN THE NEXT DAY.

12:21:24 I CAN TELL YOU A LOT OF STORIES, GENTLEMEN, BUT I WOULDN'T

12:21:28 DO THAT TO THE ADMINISTRATION.

12:21:32 AND MARY PROBABLY COULD BE THAT PERSON THAT COULD MAKE IT

12:21:35 HAPPEN.

12:21:39 I REMEMBER WHEN TINA WRIGHT WAS RUNNING.

12:21:43 NOW I FEEL BAD THAT DIDN'T SUPPORT HER AT THAT TIME.

12:21:52 I'M SAYING THAT PUBLICLY.

12:21:55 I'M TIRED OF MAKING DECISIONS WE REGRET, AND SOMETIMES




12:21:59 MAKING DECISIONS THAT ARE HARD TO MAKE.

12:22:03 TODAY IS GOING TO BE THE HARDEST I HAVE TO MAKE BECAUSE WHEN

12:22:05 I RECEIVE A CALL FROM SOMEONE WHO WORKED FOR THE CITY FOR

12:22:08 OVER 20-SOME YEARS AND NOW HE'S RETIRED AND GOES TO THE FILE

12:22:13 THE APPLICATION AND TELL HIM -- THIS MAN JUST RETIRED A YEAR

12:22:20 AGO.

12:22:22 DO WE CHANGE THE BACKGROUND, DO WE CHANGE THE BACKGROUND SO

12:22:28 A PERSON, WITH A POSSIBLE BLEMISH I SHALL, TO COME ONTO THE

12:22:33 POLICE DEPARTMENT?

12:22:35 DO WE HAVE THAT COMMITMENT TO DO THOSE CHANGES?

12:22:42 SOMETIMES I MAID MAKE MISTAKES.

12:22:44 OTHER PEOPLE MAKE THEM, YOU KNOW.

12:22:46 WHEN I RAN, AT THE LAST MINUTE, I HAD A FLAG ABOUT MY POLICE

12:22:52 RECORD BUT THE VOTERS SAW PAST THAT AND THOUGHT I WAS THE

12:22:56 STRONGER CANDIDATE AND I YOU KNOW HOW THAT GOES.

12:23:02 I TOLD YOU THAT YESTERDAY, MARY.

12:23:07 SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE CONSTITUENTS.

12:23:10 SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS.

12:23:13 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT VOTE MAY BE IN A FEW MINUTES.

12:23:16 I WISH YOU WELL.

12:23:18 BUT ALL I CAN SAY, THAT'S ALL I CAN DO.

12:23:25 BELL BOWL ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE IT AND

12:23:29 TAKE A VOTE.

12:23:30 MR. MIRANDA MOVED TO CLOSE.

12:23:36 ALL RIGHT




12:23:37 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS

12:23:44 COUNCIL REAL QUICK.

12:23:45 TWO THINGS.

12:23:46 ONE, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS, IF THERE IS EITHER AN

12:23:54 APOLOGY OR CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT OR WHATEVER ELSE, I'M THE

12:23:58 PROCESS.

12:23:58 AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY I'M THE PROCESS, BECAUSE ALL OF THE

12:24:01 NAMES THAT WERE MENTIONED AS DIRECTOR, THREE OF THEM WERE

12:24:04 DONE IN A NATIONAL SEARCH PROCESS.

12:24:08 IRRESPECTIVE OF MARY O'CONNOR.

12:24:14 TERES A HILLS, A NATIONAL SEARCH PROCESS.

12:24:18 J.C. HUDSON.

12:24:20 WE FOUND THE TALENT IN OUR OWN BACKYARD.

12:24:23 I AM THE PROCESS SO I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO EITHER NOW OR

12:24:25 LATER TO WORK WITH COUNCIL AND FIX THAT PROCESS, AND

12:24:28 CHAIRMAN OF PUBLIC SAFETY, IF I OFFENDED YOU IN THAT

12:24:30 PROCESS, THEN I AM STANDING HERE TO APOLOGIZE.

12:24:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.

12:24:36 CHIEF, YOU NEVER OFFEND ME.

12:24:38 YOU AND I HAVE WORKED TOGETHER.

12:24:41 I AM JUST STATING TO YOU, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN, IN MY OPINION,

12:24:46 MORE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE BEEN IN THIS PROCESS, AS ANY OTHER

12:24:51 DIRECTOR OR DEPARTMENT HEAD WHO WAS GOING TO BE NOMINATED OR

12:24:54 APPOINTED FOR THAT POSITION, WHETHER IT BE THE BUDGET,

12:24:58 WHETHER IT BE SOLID WASTE, WHETHER IT BE PARKS AND




12:25:01 RECREATION.

12:25:03 IN THE FUTURE, IF I MAY JUST THROW IN MY PIECE NOW.

12:25:11 THE COMMITTEE CHAIR IS -- TO THE PROCESS.

12:25:15 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SAY THAT, CHAIRMAN.

12:25:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THAT'S IN THE BEGINNING I TOLD THE

12:25:22 CHIEF YOU NEED TO HAVE THE DIRECTORS COME MEET WITH

12:25:25 COUNCILMEN BEFORE THE VOTE SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHO THEY ARE

12:25:27 AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING TO DO.

12:25:29 WE DID THAT WITH NICOLE.

12:25:32 I THINK FOR THE POLICE CHIEF, I THINK IT IS THE MOST -- NOT

12:25:38 DISRESPECTING CHIEF TRIPP BUT THE POLICE CHIEF IS THE MOST

12:25:43 POWERFUL, EVEN MORE POWERFUL THAN THE MAYOR.

12:25:45 I THINK THE COMMUNITY ASSUMES THAT WHEN THE MAYOR SAID A

12:25:50 NATIONAL SEARCH, WE ASSUMED WE WOULD BE A PART OF THAT

12:25:53 PROCESS, AND HAVE A CHANCE TO SIT ON THAT AND BE PART OF

12:26:01 THAT PROCESS, AND SIT AT THE TABLE WITH THE MAYOR AT THAT

12:26:07 TIME WHO EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.

12:26:11 I THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED, THE COMMUNITY FELT AROUND THE

12:26:17 CITY THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THEY FELT THEY WERE GOING TO

12:26:20 BE PART OF THE PROCESS AND MAYBE THAT'S WHERE THEY GOT IT

12:26:23 STARTED.

12:26:24 MR. CARLSON.

12:26:25 >>BILL CARLSON: CHIEF BENNETT, YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AN

12:26:28 HONEST BROKER WORKING WITH US AND I APPRECIATE IT.

12:26:30 EVERYTHING YOU HAVE OF SAID TO ME YOU HAVE DONE AND




12:26:32 HOPEFULLY I HAVE DONE THE SAME.

12:26:34 AND YOU ARE VERY WELL RESPECT IN IT COMMUNITY, YOU ARE YOU

12:26:39 GO THROUGH THE DETAILS, YOU ALWAYS GO THROUGH A LOT MORE

12:26:42 DATA DETAILS THAN I DO.

12:26:43 THE PROBLEM HERE, AS WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT, IS

12:26:48 OFFLINE, IS THAT THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE ACTING AROUND THE

12:26:51 MAYOR THAT YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER.

12:26:52 AND I WILL JUST ASK YOU ONE EXAMPLE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT

12:26:57 FOR A SECOND, DID YOU AUTHORIZE OR TELL THE HEAD OF

12:26:59 COMMUNICATION TO SAY THAT IT'S DESPICABLE, WHATEVER THE WORD

12:27:03 WAS, THAT SEVEN MEN CAN'T APPROVE A WOMAN?

12:27:06 DID YOU DIRECT HIM TO DO THAT?

12:27:08 >>JOHN BENNETT: I DON'T USUALLY ENGAGE WITH COMMUNICATIONS.

12:27:11 >>BILL CARLSON: SO THE POINT IS YOU WOULD NEVER DO

12:27:13 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

12:27:14 YOU WOULD NEVER TELL COMMUNICATION TO SAY CITY COUNCIL

12:27:18 MEMBERS WANT TO CHANGE THE CHARTER BECAUSE THEY WERE

12:27:22 INEFFECTIVE, AND DEALING WITH THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION

12:27:27 WHICH WE HAVE ALL TALKED AT LENGTH WITH, GUIDED BY THE LAST

12:27:30 MAYOR THROUGH HIS APPOINTEES, AND CITY ATTORNEY WHO WAS

12:27:34 CARRYING WATER FOR HIM, AND SO THE POINT IS THAT THE THINGS

12:27:39 THAT ARE GOING ON AROUND THIS DECISION THAT WE DON'T LIKE, I

12:27:43 DON'T THINK ANY OF THEM ARE RELATED TO YOU.

12:27:45 I KNOW YOU WANT TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE YOU ARE

12:27:47 AN HONORABLE PERSON, BUT THESE THINGS HAVE NOTHING TO DO




12:27:50 WITH YOU.

12:27:51 SO THE MAYOR AND YOU, I HOPE, CAN GET CONTROL OF THESE

12:27:55 PEOPLE.

12:27:55 MOST OF THEM ARE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, SOME OF THEM

12:27:58 INSIDE.

12:27:59 THE PEOPLE INSIDE THE CITY ARE LEAKING DOCUMENTS AND TALKING

12:28:02 ABOUT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IS HORRIBLE.

12:28:03 WE HAVE TO STOP THIS.

12:28:05 EVERYBODY IS ASKING WHY ARE THERE SO MANY -- HOW MANY TIMES

12:28:09 HAVE I COME TO YOU AND SAY PLEASE ASK THEM TO STOP.

12:28:13 PLEASE ASK THEM TO STOP.

12:28:14 AND SENDING E-MAILS, AND SAYING PLEASE ASK THEM TO STOP.

12:28:17 WE ALL WANT TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY.

12:28:21 PLEASE LET'S LOOK AT THIS PROCESS A DIFFERENT WAY AND WE GET

12:28:25 MORE ATTACKS.

12:28:25 THIS DEMOCRACY IS AT STAKE IN OUR CITY RIGHT NOW.

12:28:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I REMEMBER THE CHIEF BEING THE

12:28:34 COMMUNICATION PERSON AND I REMEMBER, TOLD HER, NEXT TIME IT

12:28:40 HAPPENS HE'S GOING TO DEAL WITH HER.

12:28:42 I REMEMBER THAT.

12:28:42 SO I APPRECIATE HIM FOR DOING THAT.

12:28:44 SO I DON'T THINK IT'S MR. BENNETT.

12:28:49 THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE.

12:28:50 I KNOW THIS GUY TRIES TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE RIGHT AND SO

12:28:55 WE CAN'T LAY IT ON HIM AT ALL.




12:28:59 I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER PART OF IT.

12:29:01 BUT I JUST THINK THAT WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE CHARTER AND

12:29:05 INTERPRETATION.

12:29:06 IT SEEMS THAT SOMETIMES WHEN WE HAVE AN ISSUE IT DOESN'T GO

12:29:11 OW WAY, BUT IT GOES THE OTHER WAY, AND WE DON'T REMEMBER THE

12:29:14 INTERPRETATION CERTAIN WAYS.

12:29:18 SO I THINK THAT'S WHY COUNCIL IS A LITTLE UPSET.

12:29:22 I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, THIS COUNCIL JUST FEELS

12:29:28 DISRESPECTED ABOUT THE PROCESS, AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS IN

12:29:32 THE PAPER AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.

12:29:34 I THINK MOVING FORWARD, NO MATTER HOW WE VOTED, I THINK

12:29:38 MOVING FORWARD WE CAN CORRECT THOSE ISSUES.

12:29:40 WE HAVE A CHARTER REVIEW COMING UP NEXT WEEK.

12:29:42 AND BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

12:29:43 I KNOW YOU CAN HANDLE SOME OF THE SITUATIONS AND I KNOW YOU

12:29:46 WILL MAKE IT BETTER.

12:29:47 BUT I JUST THINK THINGS JUST FELL APART, AND WE HAVE GOT TO

12:29:51 PICK THE PIECES UP AND PUT THEM BACK TOGETHER, MR. MIRANDA,

12:29:55 LIKE YOU SAID.

12:29:55 >>JOHN BENNETT: AND THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK, EVERYBODY.

12:29:59 I'M JUST GRATEFUL THAT COUNCIL IS SEPARATING THE PROCESS

12:30:02 FROM CHIEF O'CONNOR'S ABILITY TO LEAD THE DEPARTMENT.

12:30:05 AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY ON THE RECORD WAS,

12:30:08 THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND MY OFFICE HAVE STARTED A PATHWAYS TO

12:30:13 PROFESSION AND THERE'S A LOT OF SECOND CHANCES GIVEN TO




12:30:15 PEOPLE THAT NEVER GOT A JOB THAT I SAW IN GOVERNMENT, AND WE

12:30:19 ARE REALLY READY TO CELEBRATE THAT, BECAUSE WE PILOTED THIS

12:30:23 PROJECT, AND HAVE PEOPLE WORKING THERE THAT HAVE NEVER HAD

12:30:26 AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN GOVERNMENT BEFORE.

12:30:28 SO THANK YOU.

12:30:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.

12:30:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF BENNETT, REAL QUICK, I MET WITH

12:30:34 CHIEF O'CONNOR, MARY O'CONNOR THE OTHER MORNING, AND I SAID

12:30:37 JOHN BENNETT IS A SAINT, AND YOU COULDN'T PAY ME TO SAY

12:30:41 ANYTHING BAD ABOUT HIM.

12:30:42 AND THAT'S HOW I FEEL.

12:30:44 YOU ARE A VERY HONORABLE INDIVIDUAL AND I DON'T THINK

12:30:47 ANYBODY IS PUTTING BLAME ON YOU.

12:30:49 YOUR REPUTATION SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

12:30:51 YOU'RE A GOOD MAN. IN REGARDS TO THIS UPCOMING VOTE NOW

12:30:54 THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE FOR THE CHIEF, SHOULD I SAY YES,

12:31:00 WHICH I CAN HEAR PEOPLE'S HEADS EXPLODING, BECAUSE WEST

12:31:06 TAMPA HAS COME OUT UNBELIEVABLY, EVERYWHERE I GO.

12:31:10 HOWEVER, SHOULD SHE BE APPROVED, OR CONFIRMED, I WOULD LIKE

12:31:14 TO HAVE A TOWN HALL WITH YOU.

12:31:16 I'M THINKING OF CHIEF O'CONNOR, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET TO

12:31:21 KNOW YOU.

12:31:21 I WANT TO TAKE YOU OUT TO THE NAYSAYERS.

12:31:24 I KNOW YOU HAVE DONE SOME COMMUNITY OUTREACH BUT I WANT TO

12:31:27 TAKE YOU TO THE REGULAR NEIGHBOR THAT'S HAVING A CUBAN BE




12:31:33 SANDWICH, THE PEOPLE THAT SAY DON'T DO THIS, I'M SORRY, HOW

12:31:36 CAN YOU CONFIRM THIS INDIVIDUAL?

12:31:39 I THINK YOU CAN CHANGE SOME PEOPLE'S OPINIONS LIKE THAT.

12:31:42 YOU ARE GOING TO BE THE CHIEF.

12:31:43 IF YOU ARE CONFIRMED, YOU ARE GOING TO BE OUT THERE, YOU ARE

12:31:47 GOING TO SEE THESE FOLKS INDIVIDUALLY, AFT LEAST CHANGE

12:31:51 THEIR MIND.

12:31:51 A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID ONCE I GOT TO KNOW HER, WE CHANGED OUR

12:31:55 OPINION.

12:31:55 AND I HAVE HEARD THAT FROM PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, PEOPLE

12:31:58 OUTSIDE OF THIS ROOM, AND THAT'S IT.

12:32:01 I BELIEVE IN SECOND CHANCES AND FORGIVENESS.

12:32:04 THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE IN LIFE.

12:32:06 SOME PEOPLE JUST SAY NO, AND DENY THAT SECOND CHANCE TO SAID

12:32:12 INDIVIDUAL FOR WHATEVER THEY HAVE DONE.

12:32:13 I AM NOT THAT KIND OF PERSON.

12:32:15 AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A WAR I WANT TO START.

12:32:19 WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS COMING UP IN THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS.

12:32:24 I THINK AGAIN, SHOULD YOU BE CONFIRMED, THAT WE GO OUT IN

12:32:28 THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, AND WITHOUT THE OTHER COUNCIL

12:32:31 MEMBERS AND LET PEOPLE GET TO KNOW YOU, I THINK WE CAN

12:32:33 CHANGE THEIR OPINION.

12:32:34 THANK YOU.

12:32:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?

12:32:36 MR. MIRANDA, MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CLOSE.




12:32:39 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDS.

12:32:40 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:32:41 OPPOSED?

12:32:42 MARYLAND MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

12:32:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS NUMBER --

12:32:47 >> FILE F22-73272.

12:32:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, ITEM 26, FILE F22-73272,

12:33:02 RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE APPOINTMENT BY THE MAYOR OF THE

12:33:05 CITY OF TAMPA MARY O'CONNOR AS CHIEF AND HEAD OF THE CITY OF

12:33:09 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

12:33:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA.

12:33:16 ROLL CALL.

12:33:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

12:33:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF O'CONNOR, I EXPECT THAT IF ANYTHING

12:33:30 HAPPENS, THE FIRST PERSON YOU CALL IS YOUR DEPARTMENT HEAD.

12:33:33 SECOND PERSON YOU CALL IS THE MAYOR.

12:33:37 HOPEFULLY, THE CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY WILL BE IN THAT

12:33:40 GROUP ALSO.

12:33:43 I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST.

12:33:50 YES.

12:33:50 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

12:33:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

12:33:53 >>BILL CARLSON: WITH GREAT RESPECT TO THE NOMINEE, MY VOTE

12:33:58 IS NO BECAUSE I OBJECT VIGOROUSLY TO THE PROCESS, AND EVEN

12:34:02 THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS GOING TO PASS, I ASK THE




12:34:05 ADMINISTRATION TO PLEASE STARTING TOMORROW, AND LET'S TRY TO

12:34:09 PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY AND BRING DEMOCRACY BACK.

12:34:12 THANK YOU.

12:34:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.

12:34:15 RESPECTFULLY, MARY, I AM STILL GOING TO BE YOUR FRIEND, I AM

12:34:19 STILL GOING TO DO WHATEVER I NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE

12:34:22 SUCCESSFUL HERE, BUT I HAVE CONSTITUENTS I HAVE TO ANSWER

12:34:24 TO.

12:34:25 I FEEL THE PROCESS FAILED US.

12:34:26 BUT AGAIN I HAVE CONSTITUENTS THAT I HAVE TO ANSWER TO IN MY

12:34:29 COMMUNITY.

12:34:29 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND GUDES VOTING

12:34:36 NO.

12:34:36 >>LUIS VIERA: MR., MAY I SAY SOMETHING BRIEFLY?

12:34:39 THIS WILL BE MY SECOND TURN.

12:34:41 I APPRECIATE THAT.

12:34:41 I RESPECT EVERYBODY'S VOTES, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, GUDES,

12:34:46 CITRO, MIRANDA, EVERYBODY.

12:34:48 I JUST WANT TO CHALLENGE US ALL TO CONTINUE TO WORK

12:34:51 TOGETHER.

12:34:53 I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S REMARKS.

12:34:56 I MENTIONED THE TERM DEESCALATION, GETTING ALONG, HAVING OUR

12:35:01 DIFFERENCES.

12:35:01 THAT'S GREAT.

12:35:02 LET'S HAVE OUR DIFFERENCES.




12:35:03 BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WILL MAKE A RENEWED

12:35:09 COMMITMENT, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS

12:35:12 BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF ACUTE CAUSTIC ISSUES OUT THERE AND

12:35:16 WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR EYES ON CONSTITUENTS.

12:35:19 HE WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR REMARKS.

12:35:20 I THINK EVERYBODY WAS VERY SINCERE.

12:35:22 I APPRECIATE YOU.

12:35:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE LAST THING, WE COULD HAVE HAD THIS

12:35:27 AS A TIE VOTE, AND WE HAVE A 15-DAY PERIOD IN ORDER TO

12:35:34 CONFIRM OR NOT CONFIRM THE CHIEF.

12:35:36 THAT TIME WOULD HAVE RUN OUT AND EVEN WITH A TIE VOTE, THE

12:35:39 INDIVIDUAL WOULD HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED, I BELIEVE, IF LEGAL

12:35:44 STEPS IN AND SAYS I AM WRONG, BUT I THINK THAT'S HOW THE

12:35:47 CHARTER IS WRITTEN, BECAUSE IT'S A TIE VOTE, WE DON'T HAVE

12:35:50 THE 7th COUNCILMEMBER TO BREAK THAT TIE. IF ANYBODY HAS

12:35:53 ANY COMMENT ON THAT, WHATEVER.

12:35:57 BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.

12:36:02 I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS WAS NOT RIGHT.

12:36:05 WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE CHARTER THAT IS COMING UP SOON.

12:36:08 THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT CHANGING THAT.

12:36:10 AS IT'S WRITTEN TODAY, THIS IS THE MAYOR'S NOMINEE, AND HERE

12:36:14 WE ARE.

12:36:14 SO THAT'S IT.

12:36:15 THANK YOU.

12:36:15 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.




12:36:20 I WON'T LET YOU DOWN.

12:36:24 >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN I MET WITH THE CHIEF A COUPLE DAYS AGO

12:36:26 I SAID I WILL DO WHATEVER I CAN TO SUPPORT YOU, ESPECIALLY

12:36:30 IF YOU RUN INTO ANY DIFFICULTIES IN MY DISTRICT I AM HAPPY

12:36:34 TO STAND UP AND STAND BESIDE YOU AND WORK WITH YOU.

12:36:37 TO THE MEDIA SINCE THEY ARE HERE, IS THAT I HAVE ASKED THE

12:36:41 ADMINISTRATION TO BRING BACK DEMOCRACY AND WORK WITH CITY

12:36:43 COUNCIL.

12:36:45 THE PATTERN IN THE PAST IS THAT IF ONE OR TWO CITY COUNCIL

12:36:48 MEMBERS VOTE AGAINST THE ADMINISTRATION, SOMEBODY IN THE

12:36:51 ADMINISTRATION LEAKS NEGATIVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE

12:36:54 COUNCILMEMBER.

12:36:55 SO IF YOU SEE A NEGATIVE STORY ABOUT EITHER OF US IN THE

12:36:58 NEXT WEEK, PLEASE COME BACK AND ASK THE ADMINISTRATION WHY

12:37:01 THEY DID THAT.

12:37:02 THANK YOU.

12:37:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE STAND ADJOURNED UNTIL 1:30.

12:37:10 (CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN RECESS)

12:37:17

13:44:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELCOME BACK, GENTLEMEN.

13:44:28 IT'S BEEN A TENSE MORNING.

13:44:32 I HOPE EVERYBODY GOT A PIECE OF LUNCH.

13:44:35 ALL RIGHT, MR. SHELBY, WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK -- ROLL CALL.

13:44:41 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

13:44:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.




13:44:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

13:44:45 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

13:44:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

13:44:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

13:44:48 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

13:44:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

13:44:51 MR. SHELBY, YOU SAID THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO

13:44:55 STRAIGHTEN OUT?

13:44:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, WE CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.

13:44:58 I THINK ITEM 71 IS GOING TO BE A CONTINUANCE.

13:45:03 I BELIEVE WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO OPEN UP -- IF YOU

13:45:07 WANT TO OPEN UP ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

13:45:09 >> MOVE TO OPEN.

13:45:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO MOVED.

13:45:11 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDS.

13:45:13 ALL IN FAVOR?

13:45:14 OPPOSED?

13:45:14 MOTION PASSED.

13:45:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. GARY, IF YOU STEP UP TO THE LECTERN

13:45:20 AND YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

13:45:23 THE MICROPHONE IS BUILT IN.

13:45:24 >> MY NAME IS GREGORY GARY.

13:45:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. GARY, WE ARE ON NUMBER 71, FILE DE

13:45:31 1-22-34-C.

13:45:34 YOUR HEARING IS OPEN.




13:45:35 THIS IS A REVIEW HEARING AND YOU ARE REQUESTING A

13:45:37 CONTINUANCE.

13:45:38 IS THAT CORRECT?

13:45:39 >> YES, SIR.

13:45:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATES WOULD BE MAY

13:45:42 5th OF 2022 AT 1:30 IN THE AFTERNOON.

13:45:45 >> YES.

13:45:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND YOU SHOULD MAKE A NOTE OF THAT,

13:45:49 PLEASE.

13:45:49 AND THAT'S YOUR REQUEST TO CITY COUNCIL?

13:45:51 >> YES, SIR.

13:45:55 >> THE SPECIFIED DATE, MR. SHELBY.

13:45:57 >> SECOND.

13:45:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, MR. MIRANDA SECOND IT.

13:46:00 ALL IN FAVOR?

13:46:02 ANY OPPOSED?

13:46:02 MOTION GRANTED.

13:46:03 THANK YOU, SIR.

13:46:04 MAY 5th, THE 2022.

13:46:07 >> THANK YOU.

13:46:07 WE'LL SEE YOU THEN.

13:46:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, ANY HOUSEKEEPING CHORES?

13:46:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM NUMBER 4, THERE IS A REQUEST BY THE

13:46:15 LEGAL DEPARTMENT WITH REGARD TO THAT.

13:46:17 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.




13:46:22 WITH RESPECT -- RESPECTFULLY, ITEM NUMBER 4 WAS NOTICED FOR

13:46:28 PUBLIC HEARING, BUT IT'S NOT PROPERLY REFLECTED ON THE

13:46:31 AGENDA.

13:46:32 AS A RESULT, WE ARE ASKING RESPECTFULLY FOR A CONTINUANCE OF

13:46:37 ITEM NUMBER 4.

13:46:38 AND I BELIEVE THE CLERK STATED THAT THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE

13:46:42 IS APRIL 7th.

13:46:44 >> MOVE TO CONTINUES TO APRIL 7th.

13:46:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED TO CONTINUE.

13:46:52 >> IT WILL BE ON FIRST READING.

13:46:54 >> FIRST READING.

13:46:56 OKAY.

13:46:56 >> SECOND.

13:46:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE TIME FOR IT UNDER FIRST READING

13:46:59 CONSIDERATION?

13:47:03 WAIT, I'M CURIOUS.

13:47:04 IF IT'S A COMMITTEE REPORT, IS THAT AN ORDINANCE BEING

13:47:07 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION?

13:47:08 DOES IT NEED TO BE A SPECIFIC TIME?

13:47:14 A QUASI --

13:47:16 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: 9 A.M.

13:47:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 9 A.M.

13:47:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, MR -- SECOND BY MR.

13:47:24 MIRANDA.

13:47:24 ALL IN FAVOR?




13:47:26 ANY OPPOSED?

13:47:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN -- JUST FOR THE BASIS

13:47:33 OF NO CONFUSION, APRIL 7th AT 9 A.M.

13:47:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: APRIL 7th.

13:47:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SOMETIME AFTER 9 A.M.

13:47:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMETIME AFTER 9 A.M.

13:47:43 ANYTHING ELSE, MS. PETTIS-MACKLE?

13:47:47 >> NOTHING ELSE.

13:47:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK YOU ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

13:47:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

13:47:54 PUBLIC SAFETY, ITEMS 5 THROUGH 11.

13:47:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL MOVE ITEMS 5 THROUGH 11.

13:48:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.

13:48:01 ROLL CALL.

13:48:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

13:48:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

13:48:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

13:48:06 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

13:48:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

13:48:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

13:48:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

13:48:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, PARKS AND REC 12-13.

13:48:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 12 THROUGH

13:48:21 15.

13:48:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. CITRO.




13:48:23 ROLL CALL.

13:48:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

13:48:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

13:48:27 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

13:48:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

13:48:29 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

13:48:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

13:48:30 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

13:48:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, ITEM 16 THROUGH 25, SIR.

13:48:35 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE 16 THROUGH 25.

13:48:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.

13:48:40 ROLL CALL.

13:48:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

13:48:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

13:48:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

13:48:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

13:48:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

13:48:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

13:48:50 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

13:48:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, ITEMS 26 EXCLUDING 2, BECAUSE

13:48:55 MR. CARLSON ASKED FOR THAT TO BE PULLED.

13:48:58 THAT'S 26 THROUGH -- EXCLUDING 28, SIR.

13:49:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.

13:49:02 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ON 29?

13:49:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU SAID NOT 26.




13:49:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOT INCLUDING 28.

13:49:14 I'M SORRY, SIR?

13:49:16 I APOLOGIZE.

13:49:17 OKAY.

13:49:18 WE HAVE 26 ALREADY.

13:49:20 THAT WOULD BE 27, 28 BEING PULLED.

13:49:23 MR. CARLSON, A COMMENT?

13:49:26 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT 29?

13:49:30 WE ALLOCATED THIS MONEY IN CRA A LONG TIME AGO, AND TAMPA

13:49:33 UNION STATION HAS THE WINDOWS ARE FALLING APART, AND OTHER

13:49:39 THINGS ARE FALLING APART, AND DESPERATELY NEEDS PROTECTION

13:49:42 AND CARE.

13:49:44 IT'S GETTING RAIN DAMAGE AND OTHER KINDS OF DAMAGE.

13:49:46 AND SO I WOULD JUST THINK THE CHIEF OF STAFF -- THANK THE

13:49:51 CHIEF OF STAFF FOR HELPING TO MOVE THIS QUICKLY, AND FOR THE

13:49:55 SAKE OF OUR COMMUNITY, I WOULD ASK STAFF TO PLEASE HELP US

13:49:59 GET THIS IMPORTANT HISTORIC BUILDING REPAIRED AS QUICKLY AS

13:50:03 POSSIBLE.

13:50:03 THANK YOU.

13:50:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

13:50:06 I SEE MS. TRAVIS IS HERE, MS. VAN LOAN HERE.

13:50:10 DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT?

13:50:12 ALL RIGHT.

13:50:13 ARE YOU GOOD, SIR?

13:50:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.




13:50:17 28 OUT.

13:50:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 26 THROUGH 27 AND THEN -- OH, I'M

13:50:36 SORRY.

13:50:37 MAYBE I WANT TO MOVE IT AGAIN.

13:50:38 27 AND THEN 29 THROUGH 32 OMITTING 28.

13:50:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

13:50:44 A SECOND?

13:50:45 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.

13:50:46 ROLL CALL.

13:50:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

13:50:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

13:50:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

13:50:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

13:50:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

13:50:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

13:50:55 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

13:50:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MR. CARLSON, AGAIN ITEMS 33

13:51:01 THROUGH 49.

13:51:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE WE GOING TO VOTE ON 28?

13:51:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HE PULLED 28.

13:51:10 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO VOTE NO ON THAT.

13:51:15 I THINK IT'S OVERREACHING FOR ONE CONSULTING FIRM TO HAVE SO

13:51:19 MUCH INFLUENCE OVER THE CITY THEY ARE GOING TO -- BE IN

13:51:23 EVERY PART OF THE CITY ON A REGULAR BASIS.

13:51:25 THERE'S NO SPECIFIC DEFINITION AS TO HOW MUCH TIME, AND IT'S




13:51:28 GREAT TO HAVE OUTSIDE ADVICE, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO FOLLOW

13:51:33 ANY ONE PARTICULAR MODEL.

13:51:36 THE BEST CITIES IN THE WORLD DON'T JUST COPY ONE CITY.

13:51:39 THEY GET THE BEST IDEAS FROM AROUND THE WORLD AND THEY

13:51:41 INCORPORATE IT.

13:51:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IN THAT CASE, MR. CARLSON, I DIDN'T KNOW

13:51:49 THAT WAS GOING TO PRECLUDE THE WHOLE CITY FROM CONSULTING.

13:51:53 MAYBE YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT MAYBE HAVING THAT DISCUSSED,

13:51:57 PULLED FOR DISCUSSION IF THAT'S THE CASE.

13:51:59 >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S UP TO YOU.

13:52:00 THERE ARE LIKE SIX DIFFERENT --

13:52:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FIRST OF ALL, NO CHARGE TO THE CITY.

13:52:04 YOU CAN READ IT.

13:52:05 YOU CAN ACCEPT IT OR NOT.

13:52:06 IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING.

13:52:08 IT'S NOT ONLY THAT THEY DO TAMPA.

13:52:09 THEY ARE DOING LONDON, CHICAGO, DETROIT, NEWARK, LIMA, PERU.

13:52:15 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK IT'S GREAT TO GET CONSULTING ADVICE

13:52:20 BUT THEY ARE VERY EMBEDDED IN THE CITY AND I THINK IT'S TOO

13:52:22 MUCH INFLUENCE FOR ONE ORGANIZATION, THAT'S ALL.

13:52:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT?

13:52:30 >> NICOLE TRAVIS FOR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.

13:52:35 WHEN I STARTED IN JANUARY, THE APPLICATION HAD ALREADY BEEN

13:52:40 STARTED FOR BLOOMBERG AND ASSOCIATES TO CONSIDER TAMPA AS

13:52:43 ONE OF THE CITIES THAT THEY TAKE ON.




13:52:47 AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA STATED THEY HAVE DONE WORK IN A LOT OF

13:52:51 OTHER CITIES.

13:52:51 THEY PRODUCE OVER 4,000 CONSULTING HOURS SPECIFIC TO THE

13:52:56 PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES THAT THE CITY NEEDS.

13:53:00 THEY LOOK AT THE CRA PLAN.

13:53:02 THEY LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.

13:53:05 HOW CAN THEY HELP US STRATEGIZE?

13:53:08 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CONSULTANTS THAT ARE NATIONALLY

13:53:09 RECOGNIZED ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

13:53:11 SOME OF WHICH THAT I HAVE HEARD SPEAK AT NUMEROUS

13:53:15 CONFERENCES AND THEY GIVE US BEST PRACTICES AND ADVICE

13:53:18 SPECIFIC TO THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE WORKING ON.

13:53:19 SO A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP SINCE THE TIME THAT

13:53:23 I HAVE BEEN HERE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED WITH

13:53:25 TRANSPORTATION, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION,

13:53:30 DISPOSITION, AND ALSO HOW DO WE TAKE SPECIFIC INITIATIVES

13:53:34 FOR THE EAST TAMPA CRA AREA, HOW DO WE GET SOME MOMENTUM

13:53:38 GOING IN THERE.

13:53:39 AND SO I HAD MORE MEETINGS THAN I CAN COUNT RIGHT NOW WITH

13:53:43 BLOOMBERG, REALLY TRYING TO IDENTIFY SCOPE, AND TO THE

13:53:48 POINT, IT'S UP TO THE PLEASURE OF THIS COUNCIL IF IT COMES

13:53:52 BACK FOR ANY POLICY DECISIONS BEFORE YOU, BUT THIS IS AN

13:53:54 OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE STAFF THAT IS BUSY ON A DAY-TO-DAY TO

13:53:58 TAKE ON SOME OF THESE SPECIAL PROJECTS AND FOCUS SPECIFIC ON

13:54:02 NARRATIVES AND PROJECTS THAT ARE DEAR TO THE CITY.




13:54:05 SO I WOULD REQUEST YOUR INDULGENCE.

13:54:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND AGAIN THERE'S NO COST TO THE CITY.

13:54:12 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S CORRECT.

13:54:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO I WILL LET YOU FIELD A COUPLE OF MR.

13:54:18 CARLSON'S QUESTIONS.

13:54:19 THEN WE'LL MOVE ON.

13:54:20 >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S LIKE WE JUST HIRED AN INTERNAL

13:54:24 CANDIDATE FOR POLICE CHIEF, AND WE HIRED A BUNCH OF -- WE

13:54:28 HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO EXPERIENCE, ABOUT 25 YEARS OF

13:54:31 EXPERIENCE IN WATER, AND THE WATER DEPARTMENT SEEMS TO

13:54:34 COMPLETELY DISMISS ALL OF IT.

13:54:37 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING ADVISING THE BEST COUNTRY IN

13:54:40 THE WORLD IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND NOBODY LISTENS TO IT.

13:54:43 WE TALK ABOUT INCLUSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND NOBODY

13:54:46 LISTENS TO THAT.

13:54:48 SO NOW WE ARE GOING TO BED AN OUTSIDE ORANGE.

13:54:52 I HAVE WORKED WITH OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS, I HAVE BEEN A

13:54:54 CONSULTANT, AND YOU BRING AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THIS, SO

13:54:56 EMBEDDED INTO YOUR ORGANIZATION AND YOU ARE GOING TO GET

13:54:59 BIAS EVERY KIND OF CONSULTING GROUP A HAS THAT AND IT'S ONE

13:55:03 POINT OF VIEW.

13:55:04 IT WORRIES ME BECAUSE THE CONSULTANTS ALWAYS -- BLOOMBERG IS

13:55:08 A GREAT BRAND, AND I'M SURE THEY HAVE FANTASTIC CONSULTANTS,

13:55:11 BUT THE GUY WHO IS THE EXPERT ON COMPETITIVE COUNTRIES,

13:55:18 MICHAEL PORTER, GOOGLE HIS NAME IN THAT TITLE AND YOU WILL




13:55:21 SEE THE CONTROVERSIES AND THE COUNTRIES, AND MY CONCERN IS

13:55:25 THAT THEY ARE SO EMBEDDED AND THERE'S NO DIVERSITY OF

13:55:29 THOUGHT ALREADY IN THE ADMINISTRATION SEEMS NOT TO BE

13:55:32 LISTENING TO ANY INTERNAL IDEAS, AND THEN THE THIRD THING

13:55:35 YOU JUST MENTIONED CRA, AND I REALLY OBJECT TO THAT.

13:55:38 WE HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR THREE YEARS TO HAVE CRA STAFF

13:55:40 ORGANIZE THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION JUST TO FIND OUT

13:55:43 WHAT OUR BOARD MEMBERS THINK, AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO

13:55:46 ORGANIZE THAT.

13:55:46 SO WHY HAVE A CONSULTANT COME IN AND TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO

13:55:50 DO WHEN WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED TO OUR OWN BOARD MEMBERS?

13:55:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU THINK IT NEEDS MORE DISCUSSION

13:55:56 BEFORE WE LOOK AT THIS?

13:56:00 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M SURE THIS WILL PASS BECAUSE BLOOMBERG

13:56:03 IS A GREAT BRAND BUT I HAVE BEEN AROUND CITIES AND THIS IS

13:56:06 JUST TOO MUCH INFLUENCE.

13:56:08 I AM GOING TO VOTE NO.

13:56:09 IF IT'S 5-1 THAT'S FINE.

13:56:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT I ASK, SINCE YOU ARE ADAMANT AND YOU

13:56:14 HAVE GOT OTHER CONCERNS --

13:56:16 >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS.

13:56:17 I AM GOING TO VOTE NO.

13:56:18 I DON'T NEED ANY MORE INFORMATION.

13:56:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GOING TO VOTE ON RESOLUTION 28, AND

13:56:25 SEE WHAT HAPPENS.




13:56:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

13:56:27 SECOND BY MR. CITRO.

13:56:29 ROLL CALL.

13:56:30 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

13:56:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

13:56:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

13:56:33 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.

13:56:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

13:56:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO VOTE YES.

13:56:40 I AM GOING TO LEAN ON MRS. TRAVIS FOR THIS.

13:56:43 I DON'T HAVE CONCERNS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT CRA,

13:56:46 ESPECIALLY EAST TAMPA.

13:56:47 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I APPRECIATE THE VOTE OF SUPPORT TO MOVE

13:56:53 FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT.

13:56:55 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.

13:56:57 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.

13:56:58 I'M SORRY.

13:56:59 AND SO JUST A POINT WITH THE CRA, WE HAVE TAKEN THE

13:57:03 REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.

13:57:05 THEY ARE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS OR CHANGING ANYTHING THAT

13:57:08 HAPPENED, STRICTLY GIVING US STRATEGIES ON HOW WE CAN GET

13:57:11 MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT JUMP STARTED IN THE AREA.

13:57:16 THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE

13:57:18 ARE FOLLOWING THROUGH AND DOUBLING DOWN WITH RESOURCES DOING

13:57:21 THIS.




13:57:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.

13:57:24 ALL RIGHT.

13:57:28 MOVING RIGHT ALONG, MR. CARLSON, 33.

13:57:37 >> 3D TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.

13:57:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM 33 AND 34.

13:57:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

13:57:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.

13:57:47 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.

13:57:48 ROLL CALL.

13:57:49 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

13:57:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

13:57:55 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

13:57:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

13:57:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

13:57:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

13:57:59 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

13:58:00 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 46 FOR A SEPARATE

13:58:04 VOTE.

13:58:04 I DON'T NEED STAFF.

13:58:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE 46, AND I HAVE AN ASK ABOUT 47.

13:58:12 IS SOMEONE PULLING THAT?

13:58:14 >> NO, 46.

13:58:15 >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 35 THROUGH 45, AND THEN 47 THROUGH

13:58:20 49.

13:58:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.




13:58:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.

13:58:24 ALL IN FAVOR?

13:58:27 ROLL CALL?

13:58:30 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I CAN DISCUSS THIS WITH THE CLERK.

13:58:32 IN THE PAST, BY VOICE VOTE, IS THAT CORRECT?

13:58:36 >> THAT IS CORRECT.

13:58:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ONLY THING FROM THIS POINT FORWARD IN

13:58:39 ORDER TO SAVE TIME, WE CAN DO VOICE VOTES, IF COUNCIL STILL

13:58:43 WANTS TO AND THE CHAIR WANTS TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE, YOU

13:58:45 CAN.

13:58:46 WE ARE NOT SET UP FOR VOTE AND RECORD SO YOU WILL HAVE TO DO

13:58:50 A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR THAT.

13:58:52 BUT THE ONLY TIME YOU WILL HAVE TO DO FOR THESE SORT OF

13:58:54 THINGS ON THE CONSENT DOCKET, A ROLL CALL VOTE, IS IF

13:58:58 SOMEBODY IS APPEARING, ONE OF YOU MEMBERS ARE APPEARING

13:59:02 VIRTUALLY, THEN WE HAVE TO GO TO ROLL CALL.

13:59:04 BUT OTHER THAN THAT TO SAVE TIME I AM DONE TALKING.

13:59:07 YOU CAN DO A VOICE VOTE.

13:59:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CONTINUE.

13:59:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

13:59:12 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

13:59:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

13:59:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

13:59:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

13:59:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.




13:59:17 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

13:59:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, TAKE UP 46 NOW, SIR?

13:59:22 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ALL KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT -- IT'S NOT

13:59:26 INCLUSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, NOT THE KIND OF ECONOMIC

13:59:29 DEVELOPMENT WE SHOULD BE DOING, SO I AM GOING TO JUST VOTE

13:59:33 NO.

13:59:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEM 46.

13:59:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

13:59:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. CITRO.

13:59:39 ALL IN FAVOR?

13:59:40 ANY OPPOSED?

13:59:41 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.

13:59:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

13:59:46 MR. VIERA.

13:59:48 >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE 50 THROUGH 58.

13:59:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.

13:59:53 ALL IN FAVOR?

13:59:54 ANY OPPOSED?

13:59:55 MOTION GRANTED.

13:59:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL HEARINGS ARE ALREADY OPEN.

14:00:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL HEARINGS ARE ALREADY OPEN.

14:00:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO SCHEDULE THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO

14:00:10 MAY 5th, THE 2022 AT 1:30 P.M.

14:00:13 >> SECOND.

14:00:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA.




14:00:19 ROLL CALL, MR. SHELBY?

14:00:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.

14:00:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR?

14:00:23 ANY OPPOSED?

14:00:24 MOTION GRANTED.

14:00:27 ALL RIGHT.

14:00:28 THE HEARINGS ARE NOW OPEN, CORRECT?

14:00:30 ALL RIGHT.

14:00:30 NUMBER 60.

14:00:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 60 AND 61, 62 AND 637 ARE ALL

14:00:38 NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.

14:00:40 AND JUST A REMINDER 62 IS A SUBSTITUTE BUT WE'LL GET TO

14:00:44 THAT.

14:00:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

14:00:47 >>RON VILA: HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

14:00:56 ITEM 60.

14:00:57 AT FIRST READING I DID A COMPLETE PRESENTATION THERE.

14:01:00 WERE NO COMMENTS THAT COUNCIL HAD AT THAT TIME.

14:01:03 THE MOTION WAS 7-0 TO MOVE FORWARD.

14:01:06 I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THIS AFTERNOON.

14:01:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

14:01:14 ALL RIGHT.

14:01:15 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY TO BE SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

14:01:17 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.

14:01:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON




14:01:22 THIS ITEM?

14:01:40 NOBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

14:01:41 >> IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME, MR. CHAIR.

14:01:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE, MOVE TO CLOSE.

14:01:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27, MOVE AN

14:01:57 ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READ BEING ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE

14:01:59 APPROVING A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION

14:02:02 APPLICATION RELATED TO THE RESTORATION, RENOVATION, OR

14:02:07 REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES OWNED BY SENECA

14:02:10 VENTURES, LLC LOCATED AT 1619 EAST 8th AVENUE, TAMPA,

14:02:15 FLORIDA IN THE YBOR HISTORIC DISTRICT, BASED UPON CERTAIN

14:02:19 FINDINGS, PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF

14:02:23 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING

14:02:25 FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING AN

14:02:28 EFFECTIVE DATE.

14:02:28 >> SECOND.

14:02:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA.

14:02:33 ROLL CALL.

14:02:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

14:02:36 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

14:02:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

14:02:39 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

14:02:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

14:02:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

14:02:41 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.




14:02:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 61.

14:02:46 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

14:02:53 THIS IS SECOND READING ON AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REPEAL THE

14:02:56 NOISE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED ON JANUARY

14:03:00 13th OF THIS YEAR.

14:03:02 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER.

14:03:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TIE VOLT?

14:03:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

14:03:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A PRESENTATION, THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC

14:03:25 COMMENT?

14:03:26 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: JUST AN ORDINANCE REPEALING THE

14:03:28 PRIOR ORDINANCE.

14:03:29 THANK YOU.

14:03:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN TAKE COMMENT.

14:03:33 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

14:03:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO DEPUTY CLERK.

14:03:40 >>THE CLERK: MR. GEORGE GRAPH AS WELL AS KAREN COX ON LINE.

14:03:48 I NEED YOU TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND AUDIO.

14:03:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MA'AM, CAN YOU HEAR US?

14:04:03 >> YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.

14:04:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME AND BEGIN.

14:04:05 >> MY NAME IS KAREN COX, AND I REPRESENT THE TOWERS OF

14:04:11 CHANNELSIDE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION, AND WITH RESPECT TO

14:04:18 ITEM NUMBER 61, THE ORDINANCE THAT SPEAKS TO THE NEW AMENDED

14:04:26 ORDINANCE, I HAVE GOT SOME REVERB HERE, I'M SORRY.




14:04:34 BUT I WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT THE AMENDED ORDINANCE RESULTED

14:04:40 FROM A FEW YEARS OF [~DISTORTION~] WITH INPUT FROM THE

14:04:51 CITIZENS, AND -- I'M SORRY, I HAVE GOT REVERB GOING ON.

14:05:01 SO I AM JUST GOING TO WAIT BECAUSE THE REVERB IS BOTHERING.

14:05:07 THE OPPOSITION TO THE -- EFFECTIVELY UNENFORCEABLE ORDINANCE

14:05:20 DIDN'T RAISE ANYTHING NEW THAT WASN'T ALREADY CONSIDERED.

14:05:25 REPEALING THE ORDINANCE NOW IS GOING TO CAUSE THE CITY TO

14:05:32 CONTINUE TO SUFFER THE NOISE THAT HAS BEEN PLAGUING THE CITY

14:05:36 FOR YEARS.

14:05:42 PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE APPEAL TO THE AMENDED NOISE ORDINANCE,

14:05:45 AND LET THE ORDINANCE GO INTO EFFECT.

14:05:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM?

14:05:53 >> NO.

14:05:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

14:05:55 NEXT SPEAKER.

14:05:56 >>THE CLERK: THE OTHER SPEAKER IS MR. GEORGE GRANT.

14:06:02 HOWEVER, HE HAS NOT TURNED ON HIS VIDEO NOR AUDIO.

14:06:07 I HAVE THREE OTHER PEOPLE REGISTERED.

14:06:09 HOWEVER, THEY HAVE NOT LOGGED ON.

14:06:10 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

14:06:15 >>THE CLERK: HAS NOT TURNED ON THEIR AUDIO.

14:06:18 >> THIS IS GEORGE GRASS.

14:06:22 ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME?

14:06:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, WE CAN! YES, SIR, WE CAN.

14:06:25 >> I'M HAVING ISSUES CONNECTING MY VIDEO.




14:06:27 IS IT OKAY IF MY MAKE MY COMMENTS?

14:06:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S NOT QUASI, SO WE DON'T NEED THE

14:06:34 VIDEO.

14:06:35 YOU CAN CONTINUE WITHOUT THE VIDEO, SIR.

14:06:38 >> GOOD, THANK YOU.

14:06:40 I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF TAMPA SINCE 205.

14:06:43 MY WIFE AND I, AND WE BECAME RESIDENTS OF THE CHANNELSIDE

14:06:47 DISTRICT IN 2019, I AM AN OWNER IN THE TOWERS OF

14:06:52 CHANNELSIDE.

14:06:53 I LIVE ON THE 20th FLOOR.

14:06:55 AND SINCE MY RESIDENCE IN 2019, DIFFERENT BUSINESS

14:07:02 ESTABLISHMENTS IN THIS AREA, THERE HAS BEEN A CONSTANT

14:07:05 DISRUPTION OF PEACE AND QUIET WHILE STAYING IN MY RESIDENCE.

14:07:17 ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS I HAVE TO CALL THE NONEMERGENCY TAMPA

14:07:22 POLICE HOTLINE DUE TO EXTREME LEVELS OF BASS, RATTLING THE

14:07:28 WALLS OF MY CONDO.

14:07:30 AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO EXERCISE THAT THIS IS THE 20 FLOORS,

14:07:34 AND THIS GOES ON ALL THE WAY UNTIL 2:30 IN THE MORNING.

14:07:38 AND THIS MAY HAPPEN DURING THE WEEKDAY, AND ESPECIALLY THE

14:07:43 MORE PROMINENT ON THE WEEKENDS.

14:07:46 SO WHEN YOU ARE A CITIZEN AND YOU ARE GIVEN THE OPTION TO

14:07:52 CALL A NONEMERGENT HOTLINE FOR A NOISE COMPLAINT, THERE IS

14:07:56 NO, I WOULD SAY, URGENT PRIORITY ON THIS SIDE OF THE TAMPA

14:08:01 POLICE TO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THIS.

14:08:03 SO WHEN YOU ARE CALLING AT 10:30, 11:00 AT NIGHT AND YOU ARE




14:08:06 STILL TRYING TO GET SLEEP, AND BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GET TO

14:08:10 YOUR JOB THE NEXT DAY, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM A

14:08:14 HEALTH CARE PROVIDER WITHIN THE TAMPA AREA, AND I HAVE TO

14:08:19 HANDLE COMPLEX DECISIONS, I'M SURE AS MANY OF YOU GUYS DO,

14:08:25 WOMEN AS WELL, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT HAVING ADEQUATE SLEEP IS

14:08:29 IMPORTANT FOR OUR WELL-BEING, AND SO HAVING TO CONSTANTLY

14:08:34 DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE IS VERY CHALLENGING IN SEVERAL REGARDS

14:08:39 WHEN IT COMES TO OVERALL WELLNESS, RELATIONSHIP WELLNESS,

14:08:44 THINGS THAT INTERFERE WITH THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

14:08:48 SO IN THE LAST WEEK, I HAVE HAD TO CALL THE TAMPA POLICE

14:08:53 FIVE TIMES.

14:08:55 MOST OF THESE CALLS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AFTER 10 P.M. ASKING

14:08:58 THE SAME THING, THAT HAVING ESTABLISHMENT BE RESPECTFUL OF

14:09:05 THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWERS OF CHANNELSIDE.

14:09:08 SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT PRIOR AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE GONE

14:09:13 FORTH, THAT THERE BE CONSIDERATION WITH THE CHANNELSIDE

14:09:16 DISTRICT IS NOT THE SAME AS YBOR, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME

14:09:24 FORM OF NOISE MITIGATION TO HELP US FIND SOME EQUITABLE WAYS

14:09:31 AS FAR AS LIVING IN HARMONY WHERE BUSINESSES CAN THRIVE BUT

14:09:35 ALSO THAT RESIDENTS CAN MAINTAIN A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE.

14:09:38 I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

14:09:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

14:09:42 ANYBODY ELSE REGISTERED?

14:09:44 >>THE CLERK: THERE WERE THREE OTHER PEOPLE REGISTERED.

14:09:47 HOWEVER, THEY ARE NOT ONLINE.




14:09:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

14:09:50 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

14:09:53 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

14:09:58 THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A SECOND CHANCE.

14:10:00 SORRY ABOUT THIS MORNING.

14:10:02 MY NAME IS DR. STEPHEN SCHWARTZ, A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF

14:10:06 CHANNEL DISTRICT.

14:10:07 I AM CURRENTLY VICE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION BOARD OF

14:10:12 DIRECTORS FOR THE TOWERS OF CHANNELSIDE.

14:10:14 I HAVE SOME COMMENTS OF MY OWN BUT I PROMISED TO READ A

14:10:18 LETTER OF MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBER WHO MEANT TO BE HERE BUT

14:10:22 COULDN'T.

14:10:23 HAD TO BE OUT OF TOWN.

14:10:25 SO I AM GOING TO DO BOTH AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND SHOULD

14:10:27 BE ABLE TO DO IT WELL WITHIN TIME.

14:10:31 MICHAEL LEEDS.

14:10:32 MY NAME IS MICHAEL LEEDS, A RESIDENT OF THE TOWERS OF

14:10:35 CHANNELSIDE, AND FORMER CHANNELSIDE CAC BOARD MEMBER.

14:10:38 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING MY NEIGHBOR AND FELLOW BOARD MEMBER

14:10:42 STEPHEN SCHWARTZ TO READ MY TESTIMONY AS I HAVE A MEETING

14:10:45 OUT OF TOWN AND UNABLE TO ATTEND THE HEARING.

14:10:48 I WANT TO SHOW MY SUPPORT FOR THE PREVIOUS APPROVED

14:10:51 ORDINANCE 2022-18 WHICH WAS TO MODIFY THE CITY'S NOISE

14:10:56 ORDINANCE, AND MOVE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM THE SPECIAL

14:10:59 EXCEPTION AREAS.




14:11:02 I AM ASKING COUNCIL TO NOT SUPPORT THE ABOVE MEASURE WHICH

14:11:06 WOULD REPEAL SAID ORDINANCE.

14:11:08 CHANNEL DISTRICT HAS BECOME A THRIVING RESIDENTIAL SUBMARKET

14:11:12 IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND IT'S CRITICAL THE CITY OF TAMPA

14:11:16 BALANCE RESIDENTS NEEDS ANDS COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES.

14:11:18 MANY CITIES ACROSS THE STATE IN THE METRO AREA INCLUDING

14:11:22 CLEARWATER, ST. PETE, AND SARASOTA, HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THIS

14:11:24 OBJECTIVE MANAGING NOISE LEVELS IN THRIVING DOWNTOWN

14:11:28 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE ALLOWING BUSINESSES TO

14:11:31 OPERATE REASONABLE HOURS OF OPERATION WHEN NOISE IMPACT IS A

14:11:34 CONCERN.

14:11:35 PLEASE TAKE RESPONSIBLE ACTION AND ALLOWING THE PREVIOUSLY

14:11:40 APPROVED ORDINANCE 22-18 BE APPROVED.

14:11:44 THANK YOU, MICHAEL J. LEEDS.

14:11:49 WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS IN 2020 TO THE POLICE, THE

14:11:55 COUNCIL, AND OTHERS TO BE ADDRESS SUBSTANTIAL AND PERSISTENT

14:12:00 NOISE APPROXIMATE PLAGUING THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.

14:12:02 NOISE ORDINANCE APPLICABLE TO THE CHANNEL DISTRICT HAS BEEN

14:12:04 UNENFORCEABLE DESPITE HUNDREDS OF CALLS TO POLICE.

14:12:08 WE WERE RELIEVED AND EXCITED BY THE HOPE THAT CAME OCTOBER

14:12:11 7th OF 2021 KNOLOGY FIRST READING OF THE NEW ORDINANCE

14:12:15 INCLUDING A SECTION ADDRESSING OUTSIDE AMPLIFIED SOUND.

14:12:18 NEW ORDINANCE WAS SAID TO BE TAKE EFFECT APRIL 2022.

14:12:22 WE ARE NOW SOMEWHAT CRUSHED BY THE MOVE TO REPEAL THAT NEW

14:12:26 ORDINANCE BEFORE IT SAW LIGHT OF DAY.




14:12:31 THE ORDINANCE WAS RUSHED AND NEEDED MORE TIME, HOWEVER FOR

14:12:33 THE RESIDENTS OF CHANNEL DISTRICT, THIS WILL EXTEND OUR

14:12:36 MISERY, WHICH HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR TWO YEARS WITHOUT RELIEF.

14:12:40 WE OPPOSE THE MOVE WHICH IS AKIN TO THROWING OUT THE BABY

14:12:44 WITH THE BATH WATER.

14:12:46 THE DELAY WILL FURTHER PUT OFF ACTIONS OF OUTDOOR NOISE

14:12:51 CONTROL AND THE FIVE MINUTE WARNING SO WELL NEEDED IN THE

14:12:56 CHANNEL DISTRICT.

14:12:56 I FEEL IT FEELS PREJUDICIAL AGAINST THE RESIDENTS OF THE

14:13:00 CHANNEL DISTRICT, AND FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN SEEKING

14:13:04 THAT FOR SO LONG.

14:13:06 THANK YOU.

14:13:06 [BELL SOUNDS]

14:13:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NEXT SPEAKER.

14:13:08 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

14:13:16 MY NAME IS LARRY KINECK, AN OWNER RESIDENT IN THE TOWERS OF

14:13:25 CHANNELSIDE, THE FIRST PERSON TO HAVE MOVED INTO THE

14:13:27 CHANNELSIDE, A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, AND IT REMAINED THAT

14:13:31 WAY UNTIL AJA MOVED IN AND TODAY WE ARE A MIXED COMMUNITY

14:13:41 BUT WITH A MUCH DIFFERENT BAR, A GAMING BAR, NOT A

14:13:46 NIGHTCLUB.

14:13:48 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR OUR CITY, AND

14:13:55 FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THIS CITY COUNCIL.

14:13:59 I RECOGNIZE THAT WE WILL NOT ALWAYS AGREE, BUT I WILL ALWAYS

14:14:05 RESPECT THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE, EVEN IF I DON'T AGREE WITH




14:14:10 THEM.

14:14:11 I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, WE ARE NOT AGAINST ALL BARS AND THE

14:14:17 NOISE THEY MAKE.

14:14:21 IN THIS CASE, WE ARE AGAINST ONE BAR AND THE NOISE IT MAKES

14:14:28 THERE ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE 04-OH 5 TIER.

14:14:33 I LIVE IN THE 05 TIER, 2205, AS I SAID, AND I FELT IT LAST

14:14:39 NIGHT.

14:14:41 THE OPERATING MODEL OF THIS BAR IS BETWEEN 10 AND -- 10 P.M.

14:14:46 AND 2 A.M.

14:14:48 WE HEAR IT EVERY NIGHT.

14:14:50 IT MUST STOP.

14:14:52 AND WE NEED YOUR HELP TO STOP IT.

14:14:55 WHAT IS THAT NOISE?

14:14:57 WELL, IT CONSISTS OF BOMBASTIC MUSIC, SCREAMING, HOLLERING,

14:15:03 CURSING, FIGHTING, ALL REVERBERATING OFF OF THE STRUCTURES

14:15:08 ACROSS THE STREET THAT WEREN'T THERE WHEN AJA WAS THERE.

14:15:15 IT IS ALSO, WHAT THE OTHER GENTLE EARLIER SAID, THIS

14:15:18 CONSTANT BEAT WITH DEEP WOOFER SOUNDS THAT REVERBERATE

14:15:26 THROUGH THE REBAR THROUGHOUT THE 04-05 TIER.

14:15:33 THAT'S WHERE YOU COME IN.

14:15:34 WE NEED LIMITS.

14:15:35 LIMITS ON THE TIME THAT THIS BAR CAN CREATE THIS NOISE.

14:15:42 I'M TRUSTING THAT YOU WILL AGREE AND SEE THAT THIS NOISE IS

14:15:48 NOT REASONABLE OR ACCEPTABLE IN THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

14:15:53 BOTTOM LINE, THE OWNER OF THAT BAR KNEW WHAT HE WAS MOVING




14:15:59 INTO, A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, WHEN HE MOVED IN THERE, AND

14:16:02 HE MUST RESPECT THOSE OF US WHO LIVE THERE.

14:16:06 THANK YOU.

14:16:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

14:16:10 NEXT SPEAKER.

14:16:10 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. ERNEST MUELLER.

14:16:21 I'M HERE TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO GO AHEAD AND PASS THIS

14:16:24 SECOND READING THAT WOULD REPEAL THOSE RECENT CHANGES TO THE

14:16:29 CITY'S NOISE ORDINANCE.

14:16:31 I AGREE THERE NEEDS TO BE A NEW NOISE ORDINANCE.

14:16:35 BUT THE CITY NEEDS A NOISE ORDINANCE THAT IS BALANCING THE

14:16:40 EXPECTATIONS, REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS OF THE RESIDENTS AND

14:16:43 THEIR NEED FOR QUIET, AND THE POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT

14:16:48 THE BAR AND RESTAURANT INDUSTRY HAS ON THIS CITY.

14:16:52 WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS AN OLD NOISE ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE

14:16:57 TRYING TO MATCH.

14:16:58 IT'S LIKE PATCHING AN OLD WORN OUT TIRE.

14:17:01 SO I AM URGING YOU TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS AND LET'S START

14:17:04 OVER.

14:17:04 IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE CHANNELSIDE AS EXPECT IS ALSO PART

14:17:09 AND PARCEL OF THIS.

14:17:11 HOWEVER, THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECT THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS GOING

14:17:17 TO HAVE, THE BIG ONE IS THE TAKING AWAY OF THAT WARNING.

14:17:21 AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, MY EXPERIENCE IN CODE ENFORCEMENT,

14:17:25 WARNINGS HAVE AN 85% COMPLIANCE RATE.




14:17:29 THAT MEANS 85 TIMES OUT OF 100, THEY ARE GOING TO WORK.

14:17:33 AND THE NOISE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS ENFORCED RIGHT NOW BY THE

14:17:38 POLICE OFFICERS, AND THE POLICE OFFICER DATA SUPPORTS THIS,

14:17:43 IS THAT THAT COMPLIANCE RATE IS MUCH MORE THAN 85%.

14:17:51 AN EFFECTIVE ENFORCEMENT TOOL THAT'S GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL

14:17:54 TO THE EFFECTIVE ENFORCEMENT OF ANY NOISE ORDINANCE.

14:17:57 SO AGAIN I AM COMING BACK BEFORE YOU AND SAYING, YES, WE

14:18:00 NEED ORDINANCE CHANGES.

14:18:03 I BELIEVE THE INDUSTRY, IS GALVANIZED.

14:18:08 I KNOW WHAT MY CLIENT HAS AND WANTS TO MAKE CHANGES, WANTS

14:18:11 TO MAKE EFFECTIVE CHANGES THAT ARE GOING TO BE FAIR FOR

14:18:14 EVERYBODY.

14:18:14 SO I URGE YOU TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS REPEAL AND

14:18:17 LET'S START OVER WITH A 21st CENTURY ORDINANCE.

14:18:22 THANK YOU.

14:18:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NEXT SPEAKER.

14:18:30 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SOHO BUSINESS

14:18:36 ALLIANCE WHICH REPRESENTS ABOUT 45 DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, 30

14:18:41 OF WHICH ARE RESTAURANTS, AND WHEN WE FIRST DEVELOPED THE

14:18:46 CODE FOR THE NOISE ORDINANCE, YOU MAY RECALL THAT THE

14:18:49 WARNING WAS PUT IN THERE TO STOP HARASSMENT AND FOR

14:18:56 INCIDENTAL CALLS THAT MAY END UP WITH CITATIONS.

14:19:00 AND AS MR. MUELLER HAS ALREADY INDICATED, THE COMPLIANCE

14:19:04 RATE IS 85% AND MAY EVEN BE HIGHER THAN THAT.

14:19:08 THERE ARE ISSUES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CONSIDERED WITH THIS NEW




14:19:10 ORDINANCE.

14:19:11 THEY INCLUDE ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS WHICH AFFECT NOISE, AND

14:19:14 MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE STADIUM NOISE, IT BOUNCES

14:19:18 OFF THE CLOUDS AND IS HEARD ALL THE WAY INTO SOUTH TAMPA.

14:19:21 UNDER THE NEW CODE, THIS WOULD BECOME A VIOLATION.

14:19:24 AND IT'S NOT JUST THE STADIUM.

14:19:27 YOU HAVE NOISES TRANSMITTED ACROSS WATER.

14:19:30 WE HAVE ISSUES REGARDING HARBOR ISLAND AND MUSIC OUT THERE

14:19:33 AND DOWNTOWN.

14:19:34 IT BOUNCES ALONG DOWN THE BAY AND IS HEARD AS FAR SOUTH AS

14:19:39 BALLAST POINT.

14:19:40 SO ANYWAY, WE ARE URGING YOU TO CONTINUES WITH YOUR REPEAL

14:19:43 OF THIS ORDINANCE, OR AT THE VERY LEAST INSERT INTO IT A

14:19:48 WARNING PROVISIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY THERE.

14:19:51 THERE ARE PROTECTIVE MEASURES.

14:19:53 THEY ARE NOT ONEROUS.

14:19:55 THEY DO PROTECT BOTH THE HOMEOWNER AS WELL AS THE

14:19:57 BUSINESSES.

14:20:00 YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO START ISSUING TICKETS IMMEDIATELY OR

14:20:07 LEAVE IT UP TO THE OFFICER IN THE FIELD.

14:20:09 THE I-75TATION HAD A BUFFER IN IT WHICH WAS THE WARNING THAT

14:20:12 WAS BEING ISSUED AND THE COMPLIANCE THAT MOST OF THE TIME AS

14:20:15 ERNIE POINTED OUT 80 TO 95% OF THE TIME RESULTS IN AN

14:20:19 IMMEDIATE COMPLIANCE.

14:20:21 SO ANYONE WHO IS A VIOLATOR NEEDS THAT CHANCE AND WOULD




14:20:24 REQUEST THAT YOU INCLUDE THAT.

14:20:26 IF YOU GO FORWARD WITH THIS, OR IF YOU REPEAL THE ORDINANCE

14:20:29 AS IT IS.

14:20:31 THERE'S ALSO A NUMBER OF CITIZENS STANDING BY, WITH A

14:20:35 CITIZENS COMMITTEE MADE UP OF BUSINESS OWNERS AS WELL AS

14:20:37 RESIDENTS TO HELP ADJUST AND CRAFT NEW PROVISIONS FOR A

14:20:42 NOISE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU.

14:20:44 SO I WOULD ASK YOU FIRST, REPEAL THIS ORDINANCE AS IT IS.

14:20:49 AT THE VERY LEAST, AMEND IT, AMEND THE EXISTING ORDINANCE TO

14:20:53 INSERT THE WARNING PROVISIONS BACK INTO IT.

14:20:56 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

14:20:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

14:21:18 I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED TODAY.

14:21:22 IF THIS IS NOT APPROVED, YOU WILL HAVE NO ORDINANCE ON THE

14:21:25 BOOK, PERIOD, CORRECT?

14:21:27 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

14:21:29 NO, THAT IS NOT CORRECT.

14:21:31 THERE IS A NOISE ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS CONTAINED IN CHAPTER

14:21:34 14.

14:21:34 CITY CODE.

14:21:35 THE ORDINANCE THAT THIS ORDINANCE WAS REPEALED MADE FOUR

14:21:42 VERY DISTINCT AMENDMENTS TO THE EXISTING NOISE ORDINANCE.

14:21:45 SO ALL IT WOULD DO IS REPEAL THOSE AMENDMENTS OF THE

14:21:51 ORDINANCE AS IT EXISTS PRIOR TO THOSE AMENDMENTS WOULD STILL

14:21:56 STAND, UNLESS AND UNTIL OTHER AMENDMENTS ARE ADOPTED TO




14:21:59 CHANGE THOSE.

14:22:00 SO WE WOULD HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS.

14:22:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW WE STOPPED THE COMMUNITY

14:22:08 CONVERSATION BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION TO CONTINUE

14:22:13 IN APRIL WOULD COME BACK AND INSERT WHAT WE DO TO MAKE THE

14:22:17 ORDINANCE GO BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE BUSINESS

14:22:20 COMMUNITY, AND PUBLIC AT LARGE.

14:22:22 SO WE STOPPED IT AND WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT PROCESS?

14:22:29 AND PEOPLE STILL HAVE CONCERNS, DOWNTOWN AND CHANNELSIDE,

14:22:36 THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

14:22:37 SO NO MATTER WHAT WE DO TODAY, WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE OF

14:22:41 MAKING SURE EVERYONE -- WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY

14:22:45 HAPPY.

14:22:46 BUT WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE WE ARE NOT ENGAGED WITH THE

14:22:49 PEOPLE AND THE BUSINESSES, SO I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM I

14:22:54 AM REALLY HAVING WITH ALL OF THIS.

14:22:56 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WELL, MR. CHAIR, SO WHAT HAPPENED,

14:22:59 WE DID HAVE THE FIRST OF THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON

14:23:03 FEBRUARY 15th WHICH IS TWO DAYS BEFORE COUNCIL TOOK UP

14:23:07 THIS REPEALING ORDINANCE.

14:23:10 WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

14:23:12 IF COUNCIL IS GOING TO APPEAL THE NOISE ORDINANCE

14:23:14 AMENDMENTS, WHAT'S GOING TO REPLACE THEM?

14:23:16 WHAT'S THE NEW PROPOSAL, AND WHAT'S IN THE PROPOSAL?

14:23:19 STAFF DIDN'T HAVE ANY DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AS TO WHAT WAY




14:23:23 THEY WANTED TO GO, IF IT WASN'T WITH THESE SPECIFIC

14:23:25 AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, AND

14:23:28 SO THAT WAS THE CONCERN, WAS THAT WE DIDN'T V ANYTHING, ANY

14:23:33 RESPONSE FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADVICE FROM

14:23:36 CITY COUNCIL, WE REALLY WAR AT A LOSS AS TO HOW TO MOVE

14:23:39 FORWARD WITH GETTING PERMITS FROM AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS

14:23:44 SCHEDULED NOT TO EXIST ANYMORE.

14:23:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAVE YOU GUYS MET WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS TO

14:23:50 BE SEE WHAT DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO NOW?

14:23:53 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WELL, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH

14:23:59 INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS BUT OF COURSE WE NEED A MOTION

14:24:01 FROM COUNCIL AS A BODY, THAT'S WHERE WE TAKE DIRECTION.

14:24:04 AND I NOVEMBER I HAVE HAD PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS WITH

14:24:07 INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THERE REALLY WASN'T A

14:24:10 CONSENSUS AS TO HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.

14:24:12 SO WE REALLY WERE TRYING TO GET DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AS A

14:24:16 BODY.

14:24:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TELL ME HOW YOUR OFFICE NEEDS TO MOVE

14:24:23 FORWARD SO YOU DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FOR THE CITIZENS --

14:24:27 FOR THE RESIDENT AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS.

14:24:29 THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT, IS HOW YOUR OFFICE CAN MOVE, FOR

14:24:36 YOU TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

14:24:38 YOU ARE GOING TO ONE THAT NEEDS TO CRAFT TO MAKE SOME

14:24:41 CONCESSIONS TO SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS FOR THE CITIZENS AND

14:24:45 THE BUSINESS OWNERS.




14:24:46 THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT I WANT TO HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT.

14:24:49 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC

14:24:53 OPPORTUNITY.

14:24:54 COUNCILMAN GUDES, FROM THE LEGAL OFFICE OF MY OFFICE, WE ARE

14:24:59 GOING TO CARRY FORTH WHATEVER DIRECTION COUNCIL PROVIDES.

14:25:02 SO I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT STAFF TO TELL YOU, WE WORKSHOPPED

14:25:08 THE ITEMS WITH YOU AND THE COUNCIL VOTED ON THOSE FOUR

14:25:11 ITEMS.

14:25:11 THAT WAS ALL A DIRECTION TO THEN GO TO THE COMMUNITY FROM

14:25:14 THE MEETING.

14:25:15 NOW THAT YOU ARE REPEALING THAT, WE ARE NOT SURE WHAT THE

14:25:18 DIRECTION IS.

14:25:19 SO WE NEED TO BE KNOW WHAT THE BOUNDARIES ARE.

14:25:23 YOU HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS IN CHANNELSIDE.

14:25:26 THAT WAS AN UNDISPUTED AREA OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO

14:25:32 CHANGE CHANNELSIDE TO PLAINLY AUDIBLE.

14:25:35 THERE WAS NO QUESTION BY ANYONE ABOUT THAT.

14:25:37 BUT IT IS WRAPPED UP IN THIS AMENDMENT --

14:25:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND THE LEGALESE.

14:25:45 THOSE POINTS WE TALKED ABOUT.

14:25:47 AND YOU HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THOSE POINTS.

14:25:52 SO THOSE POINTS TO BE CONCERNED --

14:25:55 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE NEED DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON WHICH

14:25:57 POINTS OR WHICH AMENDMENTS YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SO

14:26:02 WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT.




14:26:04 RIGHT NOW, WE ARE NOT SURE.

14:26:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE GO TO MR. CARLSON.

14:26:08 HE HAD HIS HAND UP.

14:26:09 THEN MR. VIERA AND MR. CITRO.

14:26:11 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A REMINDER, WE HAD STAFF A COUPLE

14:26:16 YEARS WORKING ON THE CHANGES, THE FOUR CHANGES, AND THEN WE

14:26:20 PASSED IT, AND AS MUCH AS I LIKE FORMER COUNCILMEMBER

14:26:29 DINGFELDER, IT SOUNDED LIKE HE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM

14:26:32 YBOR CITY.

14:26:32 HE SAID INSTEAD OF FIXING AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE, LET'S

14:26:38 CANCEL IT AND START OVER.

14:26:39 AND I OBJECTED TO THAT BECAUSE I THINK THE ORDINANCE, CALLED

14:26:45 THE ORDINANCE OF THE FOUR CHANGES THAT GOES INTO EFFECT IN

14:26:48 AUGUST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

14:26:51 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: JULY.

14:26:52 >>BILL CARLSON: SO WE PUT IT FAR OUT SO WE WOULD HAVE

14:26:55 PLENTY OF TIME, HAVE PUBLIC INPUT AND THEN WE CAN CHANGE IT

14:26:57 BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE THE STRUCTURE OR SOMETHING, IF WE

14:27:01 CANCELED THAT PART TODAY, THEN WE HAVE TO START OVER WITH A

14:27:04 WHOLE NEW PROCESS AND PROPOSAL SOMETHING COMPLETELY

14:27:07 DIFFERENT.

14:27:07 AND SO I AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST CANCELING THE FOUR

14:27:11 CHANGES, AGAIN, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S BETTER TO LISTEN TO THE

14:27:15 PUBLIC AND MODIFY IT.

14:27:17 ALSO, WE HAVE GIVEN STAFF THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO PASS




14:27:22 SOMETHING BY HAVING LEFT THE FOUR CHANGES IN PLACE, THAT

14:27:25 GIVES MORE REASON FOR THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE AND GIVE US

14:27:29 FEEDBACK, AND THEN WE CAN -- TRY TO EDIT WHATEVER -- [~AUDIO

14:27:37 DISTORTION~]

14:27:38 >> AND THEN MOVE FORWARD.

14:27:39 SO I AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS AGAIN BECAUSE I THINK

14:27:41 IT'S BETTER TO EDIT THE FOUR POINTS THAN TO GO BARK TO ZERO.

14:27:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK WHAT MR. DINGFELDER'S POINT WAS --

14:27:49 AND YOU ARE RIGHT, BECAUSE I HAD A QUESTION, THE BUSINESS

14:27:54 OWNERS LOOK AT IT AS IF WE GO AHEAD WITH THE ORIGINAL AND

14:27:58 HAVE THAT TIME OUT, THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THEIR

14:28:02 BUSINESSES, BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY START -- PEOPLE

14:28:07 ARE DOING THINGS, AND THIS HAPPENS.

14:28:08 NOW, IF THEY LOSE MONEY, THEY HAVE LAWSUITS, SO THAT'S A

14:28:12 CONCERN.

14:28:13 SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE HOW DO WE FIX THAT?

14:28:16 THEN YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT HOW

14:28:19 DO YOU FIX THAT PORTION FOR THE BUSINESS OWNERS, WHATEVER

14:28:22 THEY HAVE.

14:28:24 ARE THEY GRANDFATHERED INTO THAT POINT OR WHAT HAVE YOU?

14:28:26 SO THAT'S THE CONCERN OF BUSINESS OWNERS, WHICH THE

14:28:29 ORDINANCE, I THOUGHT, WAS CRAFTED, A FEW MORE TWEAKS WITH

14:28:34 YBOR, BUT A BIG PORTION IS, IF WE MOVE FORWARD, THERE IS

14:28:38 CONCERN HOW COULD IT DEAL WITH THEIR BOOKINGS.

14:28:42 SO I THINK THAT'S THEIR MAJOR CONCERN.




14:28:44 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST LIKE MY SECOND BITE, THE MAIN POINT OF

14:28:49 CONTENTION WAS, THE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND AFTER MIDNIGHT.

14:28:53 IF YOU LOOK AT MOST OF THE VENUES IN YBOR, MOST OF THEM

14:28:57 PRIMARILY HAVE INDOOR, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT HAVE

14:29:00 OUTDOOR.

14:29:01 BUT WE ARE NOT SHUTTING IT DOWN.

14:29:02 ONE OF THE BUILDINGS HAS LIKE FIVE FLOORS AND THIS ONLY

14:29:07 EXACT THE TOP FLOOR.

14:29:08 IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WOULD SHUT DOWN.

14:29:09 IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN HAVE ACOUSTIC NOISE.

14:29:12 I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE ACOUSTIC GUITAR.

14:29:15 THEY CAN'T HAVE AMPLIFIED NOISE AFTER MIDNIGHT.

14:29:18 IT DOES AFFECT SO BUSINESSES BUT IT DOESN'T AFFECT MOST AND

14:29:23 IT ALSO IMPACTED PERFORMING ARTS CENTERS LIKE THE CUBAN

14:29:27 CLUB.

14:29:28 SO WE NEED TO MAKE A CARVE OUT FOR THEM AND WE NEED TO TALK

14:29:32 TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN YBOR THAT HAVE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED

14:29:36 SOUND AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF

14:29:39 COMPROMISE WE CAN HAVE.

14:29:40 BUT I THINK LESS THAN TEN BUSINESSES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO

14:29:43 ADDRESS AS OPPOSED TO THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS WHO WANT A

14:29:46 SOLUTION.

14:29:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA?

14:29:49 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, THANK YOU.

14:29:50 I APPRECIATE THAT.




14:29:51 JUST MY THOUGHTS, I THINK THE PROPER WAY TO GO, JUST UPON

14:29:54 REVIEW, DISCUSSING WITH STAFF, AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU

14:29:58 ALL'S HARD WORK 100% ON THIS.

14:30:00 I KNOW IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT WITH A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH,

14:30:03 ET CETERA, IS TO, NUMBER ONE, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION, AND

14:30:08 SOME FOLKS TALKED ABOUT SOME SORT OF A CITIZENS COMMITTEE.

14:30:12 I THINK WHAT'S CLEAR IS THAT CHANNELSIDE NEEDS HELP NOW,

14:30:17 NOW, NOW.

14:30:18 I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

14:30:19 PEOPLE ARE SHOWING UP FOR THIS.

14:30:21 YOU KNOW, WHEN WE VOTED TO REPEAL THIS, I THINK IT WAS --

14:30:27 (AUDIO DROP)

14:30:48 CHANNELSIDE, LIKE I TALKED TO SOME OF THE FOLKS AT

14:30:51 CHANNELSIDE ABOUT A WEEK AGO, YOU HAVE ONE SIDE, YOU HAVE

14:30:54 YBOR CITY ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

14:30:55 THEN YOU HAVE GOT TAMPA PALMS.

14:30:57 SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THAT IS CHANNELSIDE.

14:30:58 AND WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT.

14:31:00 SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD FROM

14:31:05 THIS ORDINANCE SO THAT WE CAN -- LIKE HAS BEEN SAID BEFORE,

14:31:10 DEAL WITH THE UNIQUE ISSUES INVOLVED IN YBOR CITY.

14:31:13 I THINK THAT THE ORDINANCE IS CRAFTED, WOULD POSE A THREAT

14:31:18 THERE, SO REPEAL, DO SOME SORT OF COMMITTEE LIKE REALLY

14:31:22 FAST, LIKE MOVING FORWARD, REALLY, REALLY FAST, AND THEN

14:31:26 FAST MOVING FORWARD WITH IMMEDIATE RELIEF FOR AN ORDINANCE




14:31:31 FOR CHANNELSIDE.

14:31:31 THAT'S WHAT I THINK.

14:31:32 >> REPEAL, COMMITTEE, IMMEDIATE RELIEF FOR CHANNELSIDE.

14:31:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.

14:31:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT'S ALL SEMANTICS, IN MY OPINION.

14:31:53 WE HAD AN ORDINANCE.

14:31:54 IT WASN'T GOING TO GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL JULY.

14:31:57 WE WERE TO COME BACK IN APRIL AND DISCUSS IT FURTHER.

14:32:01 NOW WE REPEAL THE ORDINANCE.

14:32:03 WE HAVE TO START ANEW.

14:32:06 AND WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN.

14:32:08 IN MY OPINION, IT'S SEMANTICS.

14:32:12 THERE WAS A NOISE ORDINANCE MEETING SET FOR TUESDAY.

14:32:17 WE COULD HAVE HAD TWO MEETINGS UNDER OUR BELT THAT WOULD

14:32:20 HAVE BEEN WITH THE PUBLIC, BUSINESS OWNERS, AND EVERYBODY

14:32:23 ELSE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.

14:32:26 NOW IN MY OPINION WE ARE TWO MONTHS BEHIND.

14:32:30 ON PAPER IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A 3-3 TIE VOTE ABOUT

14:32:34 THIS.

14:32:36 SOMETHING HAS GOT TO GIVE.

14:32:39 WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT IT.

14:32:41 THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT A PLACE

14:32:45 DOWN ON SOUTH MACDILL, THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A BAR, IN MY

14:32:51 OPINION.

14:32:53 I HAVE GOT BARS -- EXCUSE ME -- THE CITY HAS GOT BARS AND




14:32:57 RESTAURANTS OPENING UP THAT ARE INFRINGING UPON

14:33:01 NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THOSE PEOPLE WANT TO GO TO SLEEP AT 9:00,

14:33:06 10:00 AT NIGHT, BUT THAT BAR IS GOING TO BE PLAYING MUSIC

14:33:09 AFTER MIDNIGHT.

14:33:10 THERE'S A NOISE ORDINANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE CITY-WIDE.

14:33:16 WE COULD HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS

14:33:19 DECIDING ON WHAT MAY BE AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, WHAT MAY

14:33:23 NOT BE AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

14:33:25 WE ARE TWO MONTHS BEHIND.

14:33:27 IF NEED BE, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

14:33:30 SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE SOMEWHERE.

14:33:32 THANK YOU.

14:33:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA?

14:33:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS.

14:33:37 I DON'T WANT TO HURT ANYONE.

14:33:40 HOWEVER, I DON'T WANT ANYONE HURTING SOMEBODY ELSE.

14:33:44 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

14:33:46 IT MEANS EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS.

14:33:51 AND I SAID THIS BEFORE.

14:33:54 WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM THAT EVERYONE HAD MUSIC OPEN.

14:33:59 SOME DIDN'T HAVE IT WAY BACK IN THE 50s AND 60s BUT THE

14:34:03 AMPLIFY ORDINANCE WASN'T AS STRONG AS IT IS TODAY.

14:34:08 IT'S TEN TIMES, 100 TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN THE SIZE OF

14:34:12 THIS BUILDING WHEN I WAS A KID.

14:34:15 SO THE PEOPLE AT 9:00, 10:00 AT NIGHT, BETWEEN THE HOURS OF




14:34:23 10 AND 2 IN THE MORNING?

14:34:25 SO THERE OUGHT TO BE SOMETHING TO HAVE TO DO WITH THE

14:34:29 VOLUME, WHAT'S HEARD AND HOW IT'S HEARD.

14:34:31 PEOPLE HAVE TO SLEEP.

14:34:33 BUSINESSES HAVE TO SUCCEED.

14:34:35 SO SOMEHOW THEY HAVE TO MANAGE TO COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING

14:34:39 AND I BELIEVE BOTH SIDES ARE RIGHT, BUT I BELIEVE ONE SIDE

14:34:42 HAS TO GIVE MORE THAN THE OTHER.

14:34:43 BECAUSE IF IT AFFECTS PEOPLE 100 DAYS, ONLY 15 SOMETIMES

14:34:53 THAT MEANS 15 DAYS THEY DON'T SLEEP.

14:34:55 THAT'S A LOT TO ME.

14:34:56 NOT 100% F.THIS THING SOLVES 100% OF THE PROBLEMS WE

14:35:00 WOULDN'T BE HERE.

14:35:01 BUT WE ARE HERE.

14:35:02 LET'S SAY IT'S 50%.

14:35:04 SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

14:35:06 EVERY THIRD DAY YOU DON'T SLEEP?

14:35:09 EVERY TWO AND A HALF DAYS US DON'T SLEEP?

14:35:12 THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK OUT.

14:35:14 AND BOTH SIDES ARE NOT COMING TO THE TABLE, ESPECIALLY ONE

14:35:19 SIDE, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND ABOUT BUSINESS, I UNDERSTAND IT'S

14:35:25 ABOUT HAVING FEELINGS AND ALL THAT.

14:35:29 I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT.

14:35:30 HOWEVER, SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO SLEEP.

14:35:32 AND YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT THIRD HOUR UNLESS PEOPLE




14:35:39 CAN SLEEP.

14:35:41 THAT'S ALL IT TAKES.

14:35:42 BUT IF IT'S A 3-3 TIE, THAT ORDINANCE IS STILL IN EFFECT

14:35:47 UNTIL THIS ONE IS PASSED.

14:35:49 THAT'S HOW IT ALWAYS IS.

14:35:51 AND SOMETIMES IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE IN COURT, I GUESS.

14:35:56 BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THINGS THAT -- RIGHT NOW WE AREN'T EVEN

14:36:02 CLOSE.

14:36:04 AND I UNDERSTAND THE ONES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, MR. CITRO,

14:36:07 AND I UNDERSTAND THE REST OF THEM.

14:36:08 BUT LISTEN, IN THE OLD DAYS -- AND I AM TALKING ABOUT THE

14:36:12 OLD DAYS -- THERE WAS NO DRINKING IN THE STREETS.

14:36:15 IN FACT, THERE WERE BLUE LAWS, YOU COULDN'T EVEN DO SERVICE

14:36:20 AT A CERTAIN TIME.

14:36:21 BLUE WENT TO THE SKY AND EVERYBODY CAN DRINK IN THE STREET.

14:36:25 IT IS WHAT IT IS.

14:36:25 THAT'S WHAT SOCIETY WANTS, THAT'S WHAT THEY GOT.

14:36:28 HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DUI RATIO THEN AND NOW, I THINK

14:36:34 THEY GOT IT TAKEN AWAY BUT LOOK AT IT THIS WAY.

14:36:39 IF YOU DON'T DRINKERS YOU CAN'T GET A DUI, AND YOU CAN'T GET

14:36:43 A DUI.

14:36:47 THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.

14:36:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME ASK A QUESTION.

14:36:52 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

14:37:01 IF THE REPEAL ORDINANCE IS NOT ADOPTED, THEN THE ORDINANCE




14:37:07 AMENDMENTS THAT WERE ADOPTED ON JANUARY 13th WILL STAND.

14:37:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY WILL STAND.

14:37:15 SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THE BUSINESS OWNERS -- IT GOES BACK

14:37:24 TO -- GOES BACK TO THE MONTH.

14:37:31 HOLD OFF AND ASSURE THEM OR SAY, LISTEN, GIVEN THAT TIME

14:37:35 FRAME, FOUR OR FIVE, THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO -- SO THEY

14:37:47 DON'T LOSE THAT, AND NOT SUED BECAUSE THEY ARE WAITING ON

14:37:50 THIS COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION.

14:37:56 WE WOULD HAVE THAT TIME TO MAKE IT WORK AND GET A FIT.

14:37:59 AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM MAKING SOMETHING WORK, BUT DO

14:38:08 THAT TO MAKE IT WORK.

14:38:10 THIS MAY BE HOW TO MAKE IT WORK TO EASE THE PAIN RIGHT NOW

14:38:14 FOR EVERYBODY.

14:38:16 >> SUSAN POINTED AT ME.

14:38:24 EITHER ONE.

14:38:25 [ LAUGHTER ]

14:38:25 SO A COUPLE OF THINGS.

14:38:27 IT'S REALLY CONFUSING FOR STAFF AND IT'S ALSO CONFUSING FOR

14:38:31 THE PUBLIC WHERE WE ARE, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP.

14:38:35 WHAT IS NOT CONFUSING IS WHAT THE RESIDENTS OF CHANNELSIDE

14:38:38 ARE ASKING.

14:38:39 SO IF YOU WERE TO MOVE FORWARD AND REPEAL THIS ORDINANCE,

14:38:42 YOU WOULD BE STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING AND WE WILL BE

14:38:45 STARTING OVER.

14:38:46 I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA THAT WE CAN APPOINT AN AD HOC




14:38:51 COMMITTEE THAT IS A MIX OF BOTH RESIDENTIAL REPRESENTATIVES

14:38:54 AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS TO COME TO SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS

14:39:00 AND PRESENT TO COUNCIL SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT BOTH SIDES

14:39:03 ARE HAPPY WITH.

14:39:04 SO I THINK YOU CAN TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION IF YOU ARE SO

14:39:09 INCLINED TO REPEAL THIS ORDINANCE, THEN MAKE A MOTION TO

14:39:11 DIRECT STAFF TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE TO R, OUT FROM THE

14:39:19 BUSINESS REQUIREMENTS, AND MAKE IT PLAINLY AUDIBLE.

14:39:23 SUSAN IS GOING TO CORRECT IT IN A MINUTE.

14:39:25 AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT SIX MONTHS OR EFFECTIVE, EFFECTIVE

14:39:30 DATE FOR THAT.

14:39:31 YOU CAN MAKE IT EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY ONCE YOU APPROVE THAT

14:39:34 ORDINANCE.

14:39:34 THE THIRD IS IF YOU HAVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE YOU HAVE

14:39:37 DIRECTED STAFF TO COME BACK REGARDING DEFINING ENTERTAINMENT

14:39:41 DISTRICTS, AND THERE IS NO ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT BY

14:39:45 DEFINITION IN OUR CODE, SO WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

14:39:48 YOU CAN USE THAT WORKSHOP INSTEAD TO HAVE A REPORT BACK FROM

14:39:52 THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT YOU APPOINT, AND WE WILL HAVE

14:39:56 SOMETHING A LITTLE SOONER THAN LATER AND ALLOW THE

14:39:59 BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS TO FIND A BALANCE AND WE WILL WORK

14:40:03 ALONGSIDE THEM TO DO THAT.

14:40:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MR. VIERA WILL WORK THAT OUT.

14:40:11 >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST DID.

14:40:12 THANK YOU, SIR.




14:40:13 THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST AS A PACKAGE WHICH IS THE THREE

14:40:16 ELEMENTS OF THE COMMITTEE, IMMEDIATE REPEAL AND THEN

14:40:18 IMMEDIATE RELIEF RIGHT NOW FOR CHANNELSIDE.

14:40:20 AND I THINK WHAT YOU SAID IS IMPORTANT, WHICH IS WE COULD BE

14:40:24 JUST LIKE STARTING OVER, TO QUOTE JOHN LENNON'S GREATEST

14:40:28 SOLO, BY THE WAY, BUT I THINK TAKING AS A PACKAGE, WE ARE

14:40:32 NOT JUST REPEALING IT.

14:40:34 I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY WERE

14:40:37 VERY FRUSTRATED BY THE REPEAL BECAUSE IT SENDS A MESSAGE WE

14:40:41 ARE DOING NOTHING.

14:40:42 BY DOING THIS WE ARE SAYING, LISTEN, WE ARE GOING TO GET

14:40:45 PEOPLE TOGETHER, RIGHT, TO THE AFFECTED AREAS TO BALANCE OUT

14:40:48 RESIDENTIAL INTERESTS WITH BUSINESS INTERESTS.

14:40:50 I THINK SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED ABOUT.

14:40:52 WE ARE GOING TO TAKE IMMEDIATE RELIEF FOR CHANNELSIDE.

14:40:55 A LOT OF FOLKS FROM CHANNELSIDE HERE, A LOT OF FOLKS FROM

14:40:57 CHANNELSIDE HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME AND TO OTHERS.

14:41:01 I THINK THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SEEN AS A PACKAGE, I THINK WE

14:41:07 CAN OVERCOME 3-3.

14:41:08 MAYBE I AM RIGHT BUT MAYBE I AM NAIVE HERE.

14:41:11 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: COUNCIL IS TRYING TO BE PROVIDE RELIEF AND

14:41:17 TRYING TO LISTEN TO BOTH SIDE.

14:41:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, MR. CITRO, MR. CARLSON,

14:41:21 ANYTHING ON THAT ISSUE?

14:41:23 >>BILL CARLSON: WE NEED HELP THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND WE




14:41:35 NEED MORE THAN JUST A FIVE MINUTE RULE.

14:41:37 SOUTH TAMPA HAS SOUND PROBLEMS ALL OVER.

14:41:40 AND MR. CITRO MENTIONED THIS, AND I WOULD RATHER KEEP THE

14:41:47 THING AS IT IS THAN CANCEL IT.

14:41:50 BUT IF YOU ALL VOTE IN THE OTHER DIRECTION, THEN I WOULD

14:41:53 JUST ASK THAT THE REST OF THE CITY HAS TO BE INCLUDED.

14:41:55 WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S

14:41:58 REASONABLE FOR NEIGHBORHOODS.

14:41:59 I THINK IT STARTED WITH COUNCILMEMBER CITRO ASKING A

14:42:03 QUESTION, WHY IS IT THAT EVERY ALCOHOLIC HEARING WE HAVE TO

14:42:05 ASK ABOUT OUT DOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND?

14:42:08 SO HE WAS TRYING TO A ADDRESS IT SYSTEMICALLY.

14:42:11 >> IF YOU APPROVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE YOU CAN -- THAT CAN BE

14:42:17 A CHARGE OF THE COMMITTEE.

14:42:19 AND THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, IS TO DO THIS CITY-WIDE

14:42:22 AND NOT ON A PIECEMEAL BASIS, OR THAT HELPS WITH

14:42:26 ENFORCEMENT, EVERY TIME, A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER GOES OUT,

14:42:31 YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT YOUR ASSIGNMENTS ARE AND THAT WOULD

14:42:34 TAKE YOU OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF ASKING THAT QUESTION WITH

14:42:37 ALCOHOL SALES LICENSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY COME BEFORE YOU.

14:42:41 IT TAKES AWAY THE NOISE PIECE OUT OF IT.

14:42:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE TALKED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY ALL MORNING

14:42:50 LONG.

14:42:50 THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE, WOULD IT BE A COMMITTEE THAT IS OPEN

14:42:55 TO THE PUBLIC, ARE THERE GOING TO BE MINUTES TAKEN, IS IT




14:42:59 GOING TO BE NOTICED?

14:43:01 SURE, I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE RESTAURANT AND BAR OWNERS.

14:43:04 THAT'S THEIR LIVELIHOOD.

14:43:05 I UNDERSTAND.

14:43:08 BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, THE CITIZENS

14:43:11 LIVING RIGHT NEXT TO SOME OF THESE BARS OR DOWN THE STREET

14:43:14 FROM THESE BARS.

14:43:15 SO IF I CAN BE GUARANTEED, YES, THEY ARE GOING TO BE OPEN,

14:43:20 NOTICED, THERE'S GOING TO BE LEGISLATION, I WOULD BE FOR

14:43:24 THAT.

14:43:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY?

14:43:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, IF I CAN.

14:43:29 IF PART OF YOUR MOTION IS TO DELEGATE THE AUTHORITY TO

14:43:31 CREATE THAT AD HOC BOARD, YOU ARE ACTUALLY DELEGATING

14:43:36 SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE COMING BACK WITH

14:43:38 RECOMMENDATIONS.

14:43:38 SO I THINK BY ITS NATURE WOULD BE A SUNSHINE BOARD AND THE

14:43:45 REQUIREMENTS OF ANYBODY THAT THINKS OTHERWISE, PLEASE SAY

14:43:47 SO.

14:43:48 BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS ONCE YOU VOTE TO DELEGATE AUTHORITY

14:43:52 TO COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU ARE IN FACT

14:43:55 DELEGATING CREATING A SUNSHINE BOARD.

14:43:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.

14:44:07 THANK YOU, CHAIR.

14:44:08 >>BILL CARLSON: IF IT PASSES THEN MAYBE COUNCILMAN VIERA




14:44:11 CAN MAKE HIS PROPOSAL IN A MOTION.

14:44:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

14:44:14 ITEM 61, IN THAT CASE.

14:44:16 >> I'LL READ IT.

14:44:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE.

14:44:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:

14:44:31 >> SECOND.

14:44:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, WE ARE CLOSED.

14:44:33 MR. MANISCALCO.

14:44:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 14.

14:44:38 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

14:44:40 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA

14:44:42 REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-18 RELATING TO THE

14:44:46 REGULATION OF NOISE, CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES

14:44:49 CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE 3, NOISE, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,

14:44:52 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

14:44:53 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.

14:44:59 IF I MAY.

14:45:00 AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON REQUESTED, THIS WOULD BE A SEPARATE

14:45:03 ISSUE FROM THE COMMITTEE AND IMMEDIATE RELIEF FOR

14:45:06 CHANNELSIDE BUT IN MY MIND THEY ARE ALL TOGETHER.

14:45:09 BUT SECOND.

14:45:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA.

14:45:11 MR. SHELBY, DO YOU WANT A ROLL CALL?

14:45:14 ALL RIGHT.




14:45:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOT TO BE FIRST.

14:45:18 THANK YOU.

14:45:21 I WANT TO VOTE NO ON THIS BUT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

14:45:26 I HAVE ALREADY EXPRESSED MY OPINIONS ON THIS NOISE

14:45:28 ORDINANCE, CITY-WIDE.

14:45:32 SO YES, I WILL VOTE FOR IT.

14:45:33 >> NO.

14:45:37 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.

14:45:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

14:45:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

14:45:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

14:45:42 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA AND CARLSON VOTING

14:45:45 NO.

14:45:46 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.

14:45:47 THEN I WOULD MAKE A MOTION WITH TWO PARTS AND PLEASE FEEL

14:45:50 FREE TO AMEND IT.

14:45:51 NUMBER ONE, DIRECTING STAFF TO REPORT TO US.

14:45:54 WE CAN GET WITH THE TIME, I WOULD SAY -- I MEAN, I WOULD

14:45:58 LIKE THIS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.

14:45:59 LET ME ASK YOU GUYS, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED TO COME

14:46:02 BACK WITH THE SPECIFICS OF THE COMMITTEE, AD HOC COMMITTEE

14:46:05 AND WHATNOT?

14:46:06 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT.

14:46:16 AND PROBABLY REACH OUT TO SOME OF YOU, BUT A COMMITTEE, JUST

14:46:24 SAYING THERE NEED TO BE AN APPROACH CITY-WIDE AND BALANCED,




14:46:26 I THINK IT'S REALLY UP TO COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE YOUR AD HOC

14:46:29 COMMITTEE.

14:46:31 YOU COULD APPOINT THE MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE WHERE YOU

14:46:35 ARE INCLINED.

14:46:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T SEE THAT APPROACH.

14:46:40 I REALLY DON'T.

14:46:41 I SEE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

14:46:44 YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITIES, YOU HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD

14:46:47 ASSOCIATIONS.

14:46:52 YOU ARE GOING TOO FAR.

14:46:53 THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL SPEAK THEIR PIECE.

14:46:56 YOU HAVE THE BUSINESS OWNERS.

14:46:57 YOU HAVE THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS.

14:46:59 I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO GO THAT STRETCH, AD HOC COMMITTEE.

14:47:02 I THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE ENGAGEMENT, YOU NEED TO HAVE --

14:47:10 MEETINGS WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS COMING UP WITH IDEAS

14:47:12 AND PERHAPS AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

14:47:15 I JUST DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO GO THAT FAR TO HAVE SUNSHINE

14:47:19 AND ALL THAT STUFF, IT'S GOING TO GET POLITICAL THERE, GOOD

14:47:22 OLD-FASHIONED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, TALKING TO THE RESIDENTS

14:47:25 OF THOSE COMMUNITIES, AND TALKING TO THE BUSINESSES.

14:47:28 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.

14:47:32 THANK YOU, SIR.

14:47:33 AND I WOULD MOTION FOR -- I WILL TRY TO PUT THESE INTO ONE

14:47:38 MOTION.




14:47:39 NUMBER ONE, FOR STAFF TO RETURN TO US IN A MONTH, 30, IS

14:47:44 THAT OKAY?

14:47:45 AND WE CAN GET THE DATE ON AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.

14:47:47 AGAIN I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THINGS TO FILL IN

14:47:49 THERE TO DISCUSS IT WITH ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO WE CAN

14:47:54 COME BACK ON THAT.

14:47:55 AND THEN SECONDLY, TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE WITH NOON DELAY

14:47:58 INCORPORATING IMMEDIATE CHANGES FOR CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT FOR

14:48:04 IMMEDIATE NOISE RELIEF.

14:48:06 LONG DAY.

14:48:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM GOING TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION BEFORE

14:48:12 WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS, JUST A REMINDER, THE CLERK CAN CORRECT

14:48:16 ME, BUT THERE IS THAT MATTER THAT'S STILL SET, ALTHOUGH IT

14:48:19 DOESN'T MAKE REFERENCE TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE, BUT IF I LOOK

14:48:21 AT THE THIRD ITEM DOWN ON THE 28th OF APRIL, THERE'S A

14:48:26 WORKSHOP, STAFF TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY BASED ON THE

14:48:29 FEEDBACK PROVIDED COMMUNITY AND A REPORT AND RECOMMEND

14:48:34 AMENDMENTS TO THE ADOPTED ORDINANCE.

14:48:35 IT MAKES NO REFERENCE TO WHAT THAT IS, BUT I ASSUME --

14:48:40 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IT IS THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

14:48:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT REMNANT, THAT

14:48:46 THAT IT'S BEEN APPEALED, YOU STILL HAVE THAT WORKSHOP SET --

14:48:50 >>LUIS VIERA: WE CAN TAKE THAT OFF, I ASSUME, GIVEN -- IF I

14:48:53 MAY.

14:48:55 I MEAN, IT'S A WEEK BEFORE.




14:48:56 THEY ARE COMING BACK TO US A WEEK BEFORE.

14:48:58 NOW A WEEK BEFORE AS OPPOSED TO THE 28th.

14:49:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD ASK COUNCIL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO

14:49:04 RESOLVING THAT ISSUE AS WELL AS YOUR MOTION.

14:49:06 THE OTHER THING, COUNCIL, IS THE CONCEPT OF AN AD HOC BOARD

14:49:11 BE CREATED BY COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE

14:49:17 WAY THE CHAIR DESCRIBED AND TAKES ON A LIFE OF ALMOST A

14:49:24 CITIZEN BUDGET AND FINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND MEET WITH

14:49:28 INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO TALK ABOUT THE -- I JUST WANT

14:49:34 YOU TO NOTICE THAT IT WOULD BE A SUNSHINE BOARD AND IT WOULD

14:49:36 BE MUCH MORE INVOLVED THAN THE AD HOC COMMITTEE OF CITY

14:49:41 COUNCIL.

14:49:41 IT'S VERY UNUSUAL.

14:49:44 AS A MATTER OF FACT, I AM GOING TO BE ASKING COUNCIL TO PUT

14:49:48 THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO BE DISCUSSED.

14:49:52 SO THAT BEING THE CASE, LOGISTICALLY IT CREATES A LOT MORE

14:49:58 COMPLEXITY THAT WOULD TAKE A LOT LONGER THAN I THIS I THIS

14:50:01 COUNCIL WANTS TO SPEND ON IT.

14:50:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

14:50:08 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW THIS FROM YOUR

14:50:15 APPOINTEES, BUT THAT COMMITTEE, WE ARE HAVING A HARD TIME

14:50:19 STAFFING IT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE GET A QUORUM AND

14:50:22 SUNSHINE AND EVERYTHING.

14:50:23 AND I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO EITHER ASK STAFF TO COME

14:50:28 BACK WITH A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, OR ASK THEM TO HAVE A




14:50:31 CERTAIN NUMBER OF MEETINGS.

14:50:33 IDEALLY, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE AN IDEAL SITUATION,

14:50:39 WE WOULD HAVE EIGHT MEETINGS, TWO IN EACH DISTRICT, ONE

14:50:42 WOULD BE BUSINESS, ONE BUSINESS MEETING IN EACH DISTRICT AND

14:50:45 ONE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING IN EACH DISTRICT.

14:50:47 AND INVITE ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS IN THAT DISTRICT,

14:50:51 AND ALL THE BUSINESS LEADERS IN THAT DISTRICT SO WE CAN HEAR

14:50:54 FROM THEM SEPARATELY.

14:50:55 ALTHOUGH THEY MIGHT CROSS OVER, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HEAR

14:50:58 FROM THE BUSINESS LEADERS, IDEALLY BY THEMSELVES, IN CASE

14:51:02 THEN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR THEIR SPECIFIC INTERESTS, AND

14:51:05 THE SAME WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

14:51:09 IF WE COULD DO THAT WITHIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, OR THAT WOULD

14:51:13 BE FANTASTIC.

14:51:14 WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND THEN I THINK THE

14:51:16 STAFF, AND THE OTHER MEETINGS, THEY ARE GOOD AT LISTENING TO

14:51:22 THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK, AND YOU ALL CAN COMPILE IT AND SAME

14:51:26 HERE IS WHAT WE HAVE HEARD.

14:51:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

14:51:30 AND I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT.

14:51:31 AND IF THAT'S WHERE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO TO AVOID THE

14:51:35 COMPLEXITY ISSUES, I THINK THE DISPOSITIVE ISSUE IS WE WANT

14:51:37 TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY REACHES OUT TO ALL AFFECTED

14:51:40 COMMUNITIES, AND THEN USES THE TALENTS OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE

14:51:44 THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED FOR POTENTIAL COMMITTEE, WHETHER IT




14:51:47 COMES THROUGH A COMMITTEE OR VIGOROUS ENGAGEMENT, EITHER WAY

14:51:50 IS FINE.

14:51:51 I MEAN, I THINK IT ACCOMPLISHES THE SAME GOAL.

14:51:53 I'M FINE WITH THAT.

14:51:55 BUT AGAIN, SO WHAT I WILL DO THEN IS, IF I MAY, IS AMEND MY

14:52:00 MOTION FOR NUMBER ONE, FOR THE AFOREMENTIONED IMMEDIATE

14:52:03 RELIEF FOR CHANNELSIDE TO BE PRESENTED TO US IN AN

14:52:06 ORDINANCE.

14:52:07 WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT?

14:52:10 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WE CAN PRESENT THAT AT THE NEXT

14:52:12 MEETING.

14:52:12 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DO THAT.

14:52:13 I KNOW OUR FRIENDS AT CHANNELSIDE WOULD LOVE THAT.

14:52:16 THEN NUMBER TWO FOR A PLAN OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TO BE

14:52:20 PRESENTED, YOU ALL CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND MAYBE TAKE

14:52:25 THAT APRIL 21st DATE TO UPDATE US ON THE PLAN OF ACTION,

14:52:29 HOW IT'S GOING, ET CETERA.

14:52:30 IS THAT GOOD WITH EVERYBODY?

14:52:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR REFERENCE TO THE

14:52:42 ORDINANCE FOR CHANNEL DISTRICT.

14:52:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: APRIL 7th.

14:52:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: APRIL 7th.

14:52:49 ALL RIGHT.

14:52:49 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]

14:52:53 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD BE FINE WITH FIRST READING.




14:52:55 LET'S GET IT.

14:52:56 >> SECOND.

14:52:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

14:52:59 ROLL CALL, MR. SHELBY?

14:53:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.

14:53:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR?

14:53:04 ANY OPPOSED?

14:53:05 MOTION GRANTED.

14:53:07 MR. VIERA?

14:53:07 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

14:53:08 AND THEN SECOND FOR THE AFOREMENTIONED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT

14:53:13 PLAN TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO US FOR THE STATUS OF IT ON APRIL

14:53:17 21st, IF I MAY.

14:53:19 >> THANK YOU.

14:53:24 SO THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, WE HAVE AFTER THE PLAN COMES OUT

14:53:29 TO YOU, AGAIN I DO NEED TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE TAKING

14:53:33 TO THE PUBLIC TO ASK FOR COMMENTS.

14:53:34 WE DID NOT, WHEN WE DID THE WORKSHOP, WE DID THAT, WE DID A

14:53:40 LOT OF OUTREACH AND WE DID A LOT OF -- DOWN TO THE FOUR

14:53:45 ITEMS.

14:53:48 EVERYONE WASN'T HAPPY, BUT THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THE FOUR.

14:53:51 SO WHEN WE HOLD THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PIECE, I NEED A LITTLE

14:53:54 MORE DIRECTION FROM YOU EXACTLY WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO COME

14:54:00 BACK?

14:54:01 GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE.




14:54:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THAT'S BEHIND THE SCENES THAT

14:54:09 COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR.

14:54:13 I HAVE A LOT OF ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

14:54:15 SOME PEOPLE DON'T BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.

14:54:18 AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT, ONE, WHAT IS AN

14:54:21 ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT?

14:54:23 WHERE IS IT LOCATED AT?

14:54:24 TWO, TALK ABOUT DECIBEL NOISE, AMPLIFIED SOUND, ANYONE THAT

14:54:30 COMES TO TAMPA, THEY WANT TO BE OUTSIDE, IT'S HOT, THEY WANT

14:54:36 TO BE INSIDE, CLOSED DOORS, AND BUSINESSES HAVE OUTSIDE

14:54:40 ENTERTAINING.

14:54:41 SO IT COMES DOWN TO THAT, AND COMES DOWN TO -- IF IT HAS TO

14:54:46 BE DISCUSSED WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT

14:54:48 OF PEOPLE, THEY ARE WORKING AT NIGHT OUTSIDE.

14:54:55 SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

14:54:56 AND LOOK AT THAT AS ANOTHER ASPECT.

14:54:59 LOOK AT YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

14:55:00 WHAT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAYING ABOUT BOOM, BOOM, BOOM,

14:55:04 NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN, WHAT WILL BE THE POLICE ROLE AS FAR

14:55:09 AS CITATIONS OR FIVE MINUTE WARNING?

14:55:14 THOSE ARE SOME OF THE KEY COMPONENTS TO YOUR NOISE.

14:55:17 AND AGAIN, SOMETHING HAS TO BE EXPLAINED, THE BUILDING.

14:55:26 NOW YOU HAVE TO LOOK -- A LOT OF THIS NEW MUSIC AND STUFF,

14:55:31 IT'S A DIFFERENT TIME AND ERA FOR MAKING THIS STUFF.

14:55:36 SO OKAY, IF IT'S INSIDE A BUILDING, HOW LOUD, WHAT THE AMPS




14:55:42 CAN BE SO IT DOESN'T VIBRATE ON THE REBAR ON THE BUILDING?

14:55:46 BUT TO A BUSINESS OWNER, WHEN PEOPLE HEAR NOISE, PEOPLE ARE

14:55:52 LOOKING TO SEE WHERE THE NOISE IS COMING FROM.

14:55:55 SO IT HAS TO BE TO HOW MUCH IS HAPPENING IN THAT BUILDING?

14:56:01 THE LEVELS, SOME BUSINESS OWNERS, AT LEAST GO IN AND WHERE

14:56:10 IS IT AT?

14:56:15 THOSE ARE MY MAIN POINTS.

14:56:18 ANYONE ELSE WANT TO CHIME IN SO WE CAN BRING THIS IN FOR A

14:56:21 LANDING?

14:56:22 ANYONE ELSE?

14:56:26 MR. VIERA.

14:56:27 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

14:56:28 AND AGAIN, WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT

14:56:32 PLAN BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL ON APRIL 21st, JUST FOR THE

14:56:38 SAKE OF TIME, BECAUSE I THINK IF WE START TO GO ON

14:56:42 SPECIFICS -- AND I SITE THAT RESPECTFULLY.

14:56:47 SO THAT'S MY MOTION.

14:56:48 THANK YOU.

14:56:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD INCLUDE TO ASK ANOTHER BAR OR

14:56:55 RESTAURANT IF THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AMPLIFIED

14:56:58 MUSIC.

14:56:58 I THINK IT'S THAT SIMPLE FOR ME.

14:57:00 THANK YOU.

14:57:02 I AM JUST MAKING A STATEMENT.

14:57:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.




14:57:06 WE HAVE SIX POINTS, CORRECT?

14:57:09 OR POSSIBLE POINTS.

14:57:10 ALL RIGHT.

14:57:10 ALL IN FAVOR?

14:57:11 ANY OPPOSED?

14:57:13 MOTION GRANTED.

14:57:13 MR. SHELBY.

14:57:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE SAKE OF CLEANING UP THE AGENDA, TO

14:57:17 REMOVE THAT ITEM REGARDING NOISE FROM THE APRIL 28th

14:57:21 WORKSHOP?

14:57:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED, CITRO SECOND IT.

14:57:25 ALL IN FAVOR?

14:57:27 OPPOSED?

14:57:27 MOTION GRANTED.

14:57:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

14:57:32 >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH MR. CITRO ON THE AMPLIFIED

14:57:35 SOUND THING.

14:57:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.

14:57:44 THIS MEETING IS --

14:57:48 ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE NUMBER 61.

14:57:52 WE GO TO 262.

14:57:53 >>REBECCA JOHNS: ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

14:58:01 GOOD AFTERNOON.

14:58:01 THIS IS THE SECOND READING ON THE TENANT'S BILL OF RIGHTS

14:58:05 AND PROHIBITION ON THE SOURCE OF INCOME DISCRIMINATION.




14:58:08 WE PROVIDED YOU WITH A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.

14:58:12 INITIALLY THE ORDINANCE PROVIDED FOR A MARCH 1st DATE OF

14:58:16 COMMENCEMENT OF PENALTIES.

14:58:18 DUE TO THE TIMING AND TO GIVE US TIME TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC,

14:58:21 WE PUSHED THAT BACK TO JUNE 1st.

14:58:24 BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS AS IT WAS.

14:58:28 SO WE ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

14:58:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE LADY?

14:58:31 ALL RIGHT.

14:58:31 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

14:58:38 ANYONE REGISTERED?

14:58:40 ANYONE REGISTERED?

14:58:41 ALL RIGHT.

14:58:55 >>THE CLERK: I HAVE MS. STROHMEYER, IF YOU COULD PLEASE

14:58:56 UNMUTE YOURSELF.

14:58:57 >> HELLO?

14:59:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HELLO.

14:59:04 YOU ARE BACK.

14:59:05 >> HI. GOOD AFTERNOON.

14:59:08 HAPPY SAINT PATRICK'S DAY EVERYBODY.

14:59:14 THIS IS THE TENANT'S BILL OF RIGHTS ISSUE.

14:59:17 AND I WAS A LANDLORD ONCE, AND FRANKLY, I THINK THE LANDLORD

14:59:22 TENANT RELATIONSHIP SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE.

14:59:27 I NEVER -- I JUST FEEL THAT THIS IS GOING TO PUT AN UNDUE

14:59:36 BURDEN ON SMALL LANDLORDS THAT MIGHT HAVE ONE PROPERTY,




14:59:42 MAYBE LIKE -- ENDED UP WITH A PROPERTY AND ANY GOVERNMENTAL

14:59:54 INTEREST IN PROPERTY, THAT REQUIRES AN INSPECTION, THEN THEY

15:00:00 TAKE THE MONEY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T RECEIVE IT, FRANKLY, I

15:00:03 WOULDN'T -- WELL, I WAS A GOOD LANDLORD, BUT EVEN SO, I

15:00:07 STILL WOULDN'T WANT SOMEBODY COMING IN IF I MAKE AN

15:00:10 APPOINTMENT FOR SOMEBODY FOR MY APARTMENT OR UNIT WHEN IT

15:00:17 SHOULDN'T BE ANYBODY'S BUSINESS WHAT I AM GOING TO DO WITH A

15:00:22 CONTRACT WITH A TENANT.

15:00:24 THAT'S SIMPLE BASIC CONTRACT LAW.

15:00:27 YOU KNOW, WE CAN CONTRACT IF THEY LIVE THERE, AND WHENEVER

15:00:35 THE CONTRACT IS UP.

15:00:39 [ INAUDIBLE ]

15:00:43 I COULD BE WRONG BUT I DON'T THINK I AM.

15:00:45 OKAY, THANK YOU.

15:00:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, JEAN.

15:00:52 NEXT SPEAKER.

15:00:53 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.

15:00:57 HOWEVER, SHE IS NOT LOGGED ON AT THIS TIME.

15:00:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK ON

15:01:00 THIS ITEM?

15:01:02 MOTION TO CLOSE BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY VIERA.

15:01:06 MOTION GRANTED.

15:01:07 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE THAT, IF I MAY.

15:01:16 I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT HAS BEEN IN

15:01:21 PLACE IN THE COUNTY.




15:01:22 WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE SKY FALL IN THE COUNTY.

15:01:24 I THINK TO THE CONTRARY, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS TENANTS AND A

15:01:29 LOT OF APARTMENTS AND DIFFERENT PLACES, NUMBER ONE, KNOW

15:01:33 THEIR RIGHTS, KNOW THEIR RIGHTS ON HABITABILITY, ON

15:01:37 DISCRIMINATION ISSUES LIKE THE 1968 HOUSING LAW, ET CETERA,

15:01:41 ET CETERA.

15:01:41 WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE EMPOWERED KNOWING THEIR RIGHTS THAT WERE

15:01:45 VERY HARD FOUGHT FOR.

15:01:47 AND SECOND THIS IS AN ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE.

15:01:50 THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT FIGHTS DISCRIMINATION SAYING THAT

15:01:52 IF YOUR LAWFUL SOURCE OF INCOME, LAWFUL SOURCE OF INCOME,

15:01:57 DEALS WITH SOMETHING LIKE A HOUSING VOUCHER SECTION 8, IF

15:02:02 IT'S SSI, SSD, IF IT'S VETERANS BENEFITS, YOU MAY NOT

15:02:07 DISCRIMINATE BASED UPON THAT LAWFUL SOURCE OF INCOME.

15:02:10 IT DOESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE PERSON, DOESN'T MANDATE

15:02:12 THAT.

15:02:12 JUST YOU CAN'T USE THAT AS A CONSIDERATION TO DENY SOMEBODY

15:02:15 HOUSING, GIVEN OUR HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE

15:02:20 WITH RENTAL PRICES GOING UP ABOUT A QUARTER THE LAST YEAR.

15:02:25 THIS TO ME IS A MODICUM OF DIGNITY WHENEVER IT COMES TO THIS

15:02:29 ISSUE.

15:02:30 I LOOK FORWARD TO PASSING THIS AND I THANK EVERYBODY'S HARD

15:02:33 WORK.

15:02:33 CHAIRMAN GUDES, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP AND I

15:02:36 APPRECIATE IT.




15:02:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

15:02:38 MR. CARLSON.

15:02:43 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR THAT DESCRIPTION.

15:02:44 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER E 2022-8-CH 12.

15:02:52 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING -- I WAS ABOUT

15:02:59 TO READ IT.

15:03:00 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

15:03:03 OPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AMENDING

15:03:07 THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE ORDINANCES CHANT 2 TO ADD ARTICLE 7,

15:03:12 TENANT'S BILL OF RIGHTS AND THE PROHIBITION OF SOURCE OF

15:03:16 INCOME DISCRIMINATION AND SECTIONS 12-140 THROUGH 12-145

15:03:20 WITHIN SAID ARTICLE, PROVIDING FOR A TITLE, PROVIDING FOR

15:03:24 DEFINITION, PROVIDING FOR A REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE TENANTS

15:03:27 WITH A NOTICE OF RIGHTS, PROVIDING FOR A TITLE, PROVIDING

15:03:30 FOR PROHIBITION ON SOURCE OF INCOME DISCRIMINATION,

15:03:34 PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT, AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,

15:03:38 PROVIDING FOR EXEMPTIONS, A AMENDING SECTIONS 12-4-A,

15:03:42 12-5-E, 19-4-A, AND 23.5-5-D OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF

15:03:53 ORDINANCES IN CONNECTION WITH THIS NEW ARTICLE 7, REPEALING

15:03:57 ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH,

15:04:00 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

15:04:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.

15:04:04 ROLL CALL.

15:04:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

15:04:06 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.




15:04:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

15:04:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

15:04:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

15:04:13 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

15:04:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 63.

15:04:16 >> STEVEN BENSON, PLANNING DIRECTOR.

15:04:25 WE HAVE A PRESENTATION.

15:04:26 THIS IS PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU FOR

15:04:30 SECOND READING TODAY.

15:04:32 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

15:04:34 THE SUBJECT AMENDMENT WAS PROCESSED AS PART OF THE JULY 2021

15:04:39 TEXT AMENDMENT CYCLE, AND INCLUDED A TOTAL OF NINE CODE

15:04:42 SECTIONS.

15:04:43 THE WORKSHOP WAS HELD IN MARCH OF 2021, AND OBJECTIONS WERE

15:04:48 ISSUED FOR STAFF HAD MAJOR CONCERNS AND REQUESTED

15:04:51 MODIFICATIONS.

15:04:52 BASED ON THESE OBJECTIONS, COORDINATION AND PUBLIC OUTREACH,

15:04:56 THE APPLICANT VOLUNTARILY WITHDREW FIVE ITEMS LEAVING ONLY

15:04:59 FOUR ITEMS FROM THE ORIGINAL TEXT AMENDMENT REQUEST TO BE

15:05:02 CONSIDERED.

15:05:04 THE APPLICANTS ARE STEVE MICHELINI AND JOHN LUM AND THE FOUR

15:05:10 SECTIONS ARE NOTED ON THE SCREEN FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE.

15:05:12 NEXT SLIDE.

15:05:13 FIRST READING WAS HELD ON MARCH 3rd, 2022.

15:05:16 IT WHATS CONTINUED BY COUNCIL TO MARCH 17th, TODAY, WITH




15:05:20 A REQUEST FOR STAFF TO BE REVIEW THE INFORMATION SUBMITTED

15:05:22 AND PROVIDE FURTHER EVALUATION.

15:05:25 NO ADDITIONAL OBJECTIONS ARE OFFERED BY STAFF AT THIS TIME.

15:05:28 THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS TO PROVIDE STAFF'S

15:05:32 FURTHER EVALUATION OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO ASSIST

15:05:34 COUNCIL IN REACHING A DETERMINATION.

15:05:37 I AM GOING TO REVIEW EACH ITEM AND PROVIDE A SUMMARY AT THE

15:05:40 END OF THE PRESENTATION.

15:05:43 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

15:05:49 27-162, YARDS BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.

15:05:52 THE CURRENT CODE ALLOWS FOR WHEN A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT

15:05:55 CONTAINS MORE THAN ONE BUILDING THE REQUIRED STRUCTURAL

15:05:58 SEPARATION IS BASED ON A CALCULATION OF THE BUILDING

15:06:02 MASSING, THE LENGTH, THE WIDTH AND THE HEIGHT OF THE

15:06:04 BUILDING.

15:06:04 THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION IS TO REMOVE THE CALCULATION

15:06:07 REQUIREMENT AND ESTABLISH A STANDARD FOR YARDS BETWEEN

15:06:10 BUILDINGS THAT ARE SET 15 FEET.

15:06:13 NEXT SLIDE.

15:06:15 THE PROPOSED CHANGE WILL CREATE A UNIFORM APPLICATION OF THE

15:06:18 SEPARATION, THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT.

15:06:20 AS FAR AS IMPACTS GO, IMPACTS WILL VARY DEPENDING ON THE

15:06:24 CONSTRAINTS.

15:06:24 UNDERLINING ZONING DISTRICT AS WELL AS SITE SPECIFIC DETAILS

15:06:28 THAT AFFECT THE FORMULA CALCULATION, AND THOSE INPUTS




15:06:31 INCLUDE THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACKS, FRONT, REAR AND

15:06:34 SIDE.

15:06:35 THE LENGTH OF THE WALLS, THE LOT SIZE, AND THE DIMENSIONS.

15:06:39 ALL OF THESE FACTORS SHALL GOING TO ADDRESS WHETHER OR NOT

15:06:41 THE CALCULATION COMES OUT HIGHER THAN 15 FEET OR LOWER THAN

15:06:44 15 SEAT SO IT'S GOING TO DEPEND.

15:06:46 THE EFFECTIVE ZONING DISTRICTS, A THAT THIS EFFECTS ARE

15:06:51 ALLOWED, HOWEVER ACCOUNT FOR 88% OF THE CITY'S LAND AREA.

15:06:56 NEXT SLIDE.

15:07:03 27-156, THE RM-24 ZONING DISTRICT.

15:07:06 THE CURRENT CODE ALLOWS THAT FOR EACH FOOT OF BUILDING

15:07:09 HEIGHT ABOVE 30 FEET IN THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY

15:07:12 DISTRICTS, THE REQUIRED YARD SHALL BE INCREASED BY ONE FOOT

15:07:15 AND THE DIAGRAM ON THE RIGHT SHOWS CONCEPTUALLY WHAT THAT

15:07:19 MEANS.

15:07:20 THAT STEP UP REQUIREMENT IS WHAT WE CALL IS IT A ONE FOR ONE

15:07:23 INCREASE OF UP TO 30 FEET IN HEIGHT AND YOU CAN SEE AS THE

15:07:26 HEIGHT INCREASES THE SETBACKS HAVE TO BE CINE HE IS AND THAT

15:07:30 BEGINS AT 30 FEET.

15:07:32 NEXT SLIDE.

15:07:34 THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION IS TO FOOTNOTE 2, WHICH REMOVES

15:07:38 THE HEIGHT THRESHOLD AND PLACES IT AT 35 FEET AND IF IMPACT

15:07:42 OF THAT IS SHOWN IN PURPLE ON THE CONCEPTUAL DIAGRAM.

15:07:46 NEXT SLIDE.

15:07:48 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THIS AMENDMENT TO CREATE MORE




15:07:51 CONSISTENCY IN THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING FORMS UP TO 35 FEET

15:07:56 AND REDUCE THE NEED TO SEEK WAIVERS FOR STRUCTURES UP TO 35

15:07:59 FEET THAT COMPLY WITH THE SAME MINIMUM SETBACKS THAT ARE

15:08:01 CURRENTLY REQUIRED FOR BUILDINGS UP TO 30 FEET IN HEIGHT SO

15:08:05 IT'S THE PURPLE AREA, THE PURPLE AREA BELOW THE 35-FOOT

15:08:09 LINE.

15:08:10 NEXT SLIDE.

15:08:11 YOU CAN SEE A COMPARISON OF BEFORE AND AFTER A WHAT THAT

15:08:15 MEANS, FOR UP TO 35 FEET AND BUILDINGS ABOVE 35 FEET.

15:08:21 THAT BUILDING ENVELOPE IS SHOWN IN PURPOSE.

15:08:23 NEXT SLIDE.

15:08:25 THIS IS IMPORTANT.

15:08:26 FOR BUILDINGS BETWEEN 30 AND 60 FEET IN HEIGHT THE AMENDMENT

15:08:29 ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE FOLLOWING: EXTERIOR WALLS MAY BE PLACED

15:08:33 CLOSER TO THE FRONT, WE'RE AND SIDE PROPERTY LINES THAN WHAT

15:08:37 WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE CURRENT CODE.

15:08:38 THE EXACT LOCATION OF THAT LINE STILL DEPENDS ON THE HEIGHT

15:08:41 OF THE BUILDING.

15:08:41 BUT WALLS EXCEEDING 35 FEET IN HEIGHT MAY BE PLACED UP TO 5

15:08:47 FEET CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY LINES IN ALL DIRECTIONS.

15:08:49 THAT'S SHOWN ON THE SCREEN THERE.

15:08:51 IF YOU SEE ABOVE THE 35-FOOT MARKER, THE TOP OF THAT WALL IS

15:08:55 NOW GOING INTO THE PURPLE, WHEREAS BEFORE IT WOULDN'T HAVE

15:08:58 BEEN ALLOWED TO GO INTO THE PURPLE SO THAT'S WHERE THE WALLS

15:09:02 ARE GOING CLOSER.




15:09:04 THAT IS THE PROPERTY LINE.

15:09:05 NEXT SLIDE.

15:09:07 IT'S BEEN ASKED WHERE THE 30-FOOT NUMBER CAME FROM AND WHAT

15:09:10 THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT IS.

15:09:11 THE NUMBER IS RELEVANT TO SEVERAL OTHER SECTIONS OF THE

15:09:14 CODE.

15:09:14 THE TOTAL OF 4 RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS REQUIRE A

15:09:17 STEP-UP INCREASE.

15:09:18 THOSE ARE RM-24, RM-35, RM-50 AND RM-75. ALL FOUR DISTRICTS

15:09:22 USE THE 30 FOOT AS THE STARTING POINT FOR THE STEP-UP

15:09:28 INCREASE.

15:09:29 WITH THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT RM-24 WILL BE THE ONLY

15:09:31 MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT THAT REQUIRES THE STEP UP AT 35

15:09:35 RATHER THAN 30.

15:09:36 WHILE THE AMENDMENT WOULD ESTABLISH A MORE CONSISTENT FORM

15:09:38 FOR BUILDINGS IN THE RM THAT MATCH SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING

15:09:41 DISTRICTS, IT ALSO CREATES AN INCONSISTENCY IN THE STEP-UP

15:09:45 INCREASE WHEN COMPARED TO ALL OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT

15:09:47 REQUIRE THE STEP-UP INCREASE.

15:09:50 NEXT SLIDE.

15:09:51 DUE TO THE FLEXIBILITY IN FORM, MASS AND BULK IN THE

15:09:55 EXISTING CODE, THE POTENTIAL OUTCOMES OF THE PROPOSED

15:09:57 AMENDMENT ON INDIVIDUAL SITE DESIGNS ARE BASED UPON PROJECT

15:10:02 SITE SPECIFIC DAYS.

15:10:03 STAFF ESTIMATES THAT THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING ENVELOPE THAT




15:10:06 PURPLE AREA IS RELATIVELY SMALL BUT COULD ALLOW FOR

15:10:08 BUILDINGS WITH A 5 TO 10% LARGER TOTAL FLOOR AREA THAN WHAT

15:10:12 WOULD BE ALLOWED TODAY IN RM-24.

15:10:15 AND WE JUST 2022 NOTE THAT THE MAXIMUM DENSITY OR THE NUMBER

15:10:17 OF UNITS REMAINS UNCHANGED SO THE ADDITIONAL FLOOR AREA

15:10:21 WOULD ONLY PRODUCE LARGER UNITS.

15:10:22 IT WOULD NOT INCREASE OR PROVIDE MORE HOUSING UNITS.

15:10:26 NEXT SLIDE.

15:10:28 STAFF IS NOT EVALUATE BEING ALL THE ASSOCIATED OUTCOMES OF

15:10:32 THIS AMENDMENT.

15:10:35 THIS IS JUST ONE POTENTIAL SCENARIO AND WHERE NO OTHER

15:10:38 CONSTRAINTS EXIST WHICH MAY IMPACT THE DEVELOPABLE AREA. IN

15:10:41 CONSIDERATION OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACT THE RM-24 ZONING

15:10:44 ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 2 .7% OF THE CITY'S LAND AREA.

15:10:49 THEN ONTO ITEM 3, NEXT SLIDE.

15:10:55 THIS IS VISITOR PARKING, ON-STREET FACING.

15:11:00 REQUIRES FOR SEMI-DETACHED, MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOUSE STYLE AND

15:11:03 MULTIFAMILY USES.

15:11:04 THE CODE REQUIRES .25 SPACES PER UNIT.

15:11:07 THE AMENDMENT REMOVES THE REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE VISITOR

15:11:11 PARKING FOR SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI-DETACHED UNITS ONLY.

15:11:16 NEXT SLIDE.

15:11:16 THIS EXEMPLIFIED WHAT THIS DISCREPANCY IS SO BOTH OF THESE

15:11:20 ARE TWO UNIT STRUCTURES.

15:11:22 THE UNIT ON THE LEFT, THEY ARE SIDE BY SIDE, VISITOR PARKING




15:11:25 IS REQUIRED ON-SITE WHICH IS FIVE SPACES.

15:11:27 THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT AGAIN IS TWO UNITS BUT THEY ARE

15:11:30 ORGANIZED ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER RATHER THAN SIDE BY SIDE.

15:11:34 NO VISITOR PARKING IS REQUIRED.

15:11:37 SO WHEN YOU GO TO PUT THE VISITOR SPACE ON THE SITE, WHICH

15:11:40 UNIT?

15:11:43 THAT WAS MADE IN PRIOR PRESENTATIONS.

15:11:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: REPEAT THAT AGAIN, MR. BENSON?

15:11:48 >> YES, SIR.

15:11:48 VISITOR PARKING IS REQUIRED ON-SITE.

15:11:50 THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IT'S NOT REQUIRED ON THE RIGHT.

15:11:53 THAT'S THE DISTINCTION THAT THIS AMENDMENT IS TRYING TO

15:11:56 REMOVE IT FOR THE HIGHLIGHTED SECTION.

15:12:01 TO MAKE THEM CONSISTENT.

15:12:05 BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH DUPLEXES.

15:12:07 THEY BOTH HAVE TWO UNITS ON THE SAME STRUCTURE.

15:12:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.

15:12:09 >> NEXT SLIDE.

15:12:13 IN CONSIDERATION OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACT, THE RELEVANT

15:12:16 ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE THE SUBJECT RESIDENTIAL USE IS

15:12:19 ALLOWED OR PERMITTED, ACCOUNTS FOR APPROXIMATELY 6.7% OF THE

15:12:22 TOTAL LAND AREA IN THE CITY.

15:12:25 STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER FURTHER REVIEW AND

15:12:28 UPDATES TO SECTION 27-283 TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL CHANGES AND

15:12:32 PROVIDE GREATER CONSISTENCY IN THE AMOUNT OF PARKING




15:12:34 REQUIRED ON-SITE ACROSS SIMILAR USES SUCH AS THE SPECIFIC

15:12:39 SITUATION.

15:12:40 ONTO ITEM 4, NEXT SLIDE.

15:12:44 THE CURRENT CODE REQUIRES THAT THE MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOUSE

15:12:46 STYLE DESIGNS, THE FRONT ENTRY MUST FACE A STREET

15:12:50 RIGHT-OF-WAY RATHER THAN THE SIDE OR CORNER LOT LINES.

15:12:52 THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT ALLOWS FRONT ENTRANCES FACING THE

15:12:55 COURTYARDS WITHOUT ALTERNATIVE DESIGN APPROVAL BY THE ZONING

15:12:59 ADMINISTRATOR.

15:13:01 AS FAR AS POTENTIAL IMPACT, THE RELEVANT ZONING WHERE THE

15:13:03 SUBJECT USE IS ALLOWABLE ACCOUNTS FOR APPROXIMATELY 6.7% OF

15:13:07 THE CITY'S TOTAL LAND AREA.

15:13:09 NEXT SLIDE.

15:13:12 THESE TWO IMAGES SHOW THE IMPACTS OF THE AMENDMENT, AND

15:13:17 UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE, ELIMINATING

15:13:20 THE REQUIREMENT FOR DOORS TO FACE THE STREET HAS THE

15:13:22 POTENTIAL TO REDUCE THE VISUAL ENGAGEMENT OF THE STREET

15:13:25 FACING FACADE, WHICH IS A COMMON URBAN DESIGN CONCERN THAT

15:13:28 IS TYPICALLY ADDRESSED THROUGH TRANSPARENCY SUCH AS WINDOWS,

15:13:32 OR THROUGH FENESTRATION.

15:13:33 IN OTHER WORDS, THE ARRANGEMENT OF WINDOWS, DOORS AND OTHER

15:13:36 OPENINGS IN A BUILDING.

15:13:38 MINIMUM TRANSPARENCY OR FENESTRATION REQUIREMENTS ARE A TOOL

15:13:42 USED IN SEVERAL EXISTING OVERLAY DISTRICT IN THE CITY TO

15:13:44 ENGAGE THE STREET, CREATE VISUAL INTEREST, AND ENHANCE THE




15:13:47 PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE.

15:13:49 IN ADDITION TO THE BE BENEFITS, TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS

15:13:52 CAN ALSO PROVIDE FOR LIFE SAFETY BENEFITS SUCH AS

15:13:56 INFLUENCING LOWERING MOTORIST SPEEDS ON ADJACENT STREETS AND

15:14:01 THE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR WHAT WE CALL EYES ON THE

15:14:03 STREET WHICH IS A CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL

15:14:06 DESIGN, BEST PRACTICE.

15:14:10 SO THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE EXAMPLE THAT COULD OCCUR

15:14:15 WITH ZONING ADMINISTRATOR APPROVAL TODAY, THAT HAS THE

15:14:21 ENTRANCES FACING THE STREET, AND THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT

15:14:23 SHOWS ENTRANCE NOT FACING THE STREET BUT YOU CAN SEE IT'S A

15:14:27 BIG DITCH BECAUSE OF THE ENTRANCES, BECAUSE.

15:14:29 WINDOWS AND ALL THE OTHER OPENINGS SO IT'S A BIGGER

15:14:31 CONVERSATION THAN JUST WHERE THE ENTRANCE OF THE UNIT IS

15:14:34 PLACED.

15:14:36 THE NEXT SLIDE.

15:14:39 STAFF ROAMS THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER THE DEVELOPMENT MINIMUM

15:14:43 TRANSPARENCY OR FENESTRATION REQUIREMENT IN SECTION 27-282

15:14:47 FOR MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOUSE DESIGN STANDARDS.

15:14:49 NEXT SLIDE.

15:14:51 THIS IS OUR CONCLUSION STATEMENT ABOUT THE COLLECTED IMPACT

15:14:54 OF ALL OF THESE AMENDMENTS THAT WAS REQUESTED AT THE PRIOR

15:14:57 MEETING.

15:14:57 THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT MAY AFFECT HOUSING COSTS IN SO

15:15:00 SITUATIONS.




15:15:01 THE AMENDMENT DOES NOT GUARANTEE, HOWEVER THAT ALL NEW

15:15:03 HOUSING UNITS WILL BE LARGER AND THAT COSTS WILL INCREASE AS

15:15:07 A RESULT.

15:15:07 THE AMENDMENT ALSO ADDRESSES THE NEED FOR SIMILAR PROJECTS

15:15:10 TO REPEATEDLY SEEK WAIVERS IN THE FUTURE.

15:15:12 THIS WOULD REDUCE THE DISCRETIONARY REVIEW PERIOD AND COULD

15:15:17 THUS FACILITATE A TIMELIER RESPONSE FROM THE MARKET IN

15:15:22 PRODUCING MORE UNITS.

15:15:24 RESPECTING BOTH OF THESE TWO PERSPECTIVES THE AMENDMENT

15:15:28 AFFECTS A VERY LIMIT AMOUNT OF LAND CITY-WIDE, THUS STAFF

15:15:32 CONCLUDES THE CUMULATIVE IMPACT OF THE AMENDMENT WOULD

15:15:36 EITHER BE LIMITED OR DE MINIMIS.

15:15:38 THEN JUST TO BE REITERATE THE CODE SECTION THAT WE ARE

15:15:41 RECOMMENDING FOR REVIEW ARE 27-282 AND 27-283.

15:15:44 THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S EVALUATION ON THIS ITEM.

15:15:47 WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

15:15:49 THANK YOU.

15:15:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: QUESTIONS FOR MR. BEN SON?

15:15:54 JUST ONE.

15:15:56 DID YOU RECEIVE AN E-MAIL FROM CITIZENS IN REFERENCE TO

15:15:59 THEIR CONCERNS, A MULTITUDE OF THEM, WHEN THEY LOOKED AT IN

15:16:05 DETAIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE THIS COUNCIL IS MAKING THE

15:16:08 RIGHT DECISION WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT?

15:16:12 >>STEVEN BENSON: YES, SIR.

15:16:13 WE PUT THE RELEVANT POINTS OUT AND INCORPORATED THE ONES




15:16:16 THAT REITERATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN INTO THE POINTS THAT YOU

15:16:19 SAW ON THE SCREEN.

15:16:20 SO THE DIAGRAM WITH THE PURPLE, ALL OF THAT WAS BASED UPON

15:16:22 THE INPUT THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC AND THE

15:16:27 APPLICANT.

15:16:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?

15:16:34 WE TAKE THE APPLICANT NOW.

15:16:34 >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.

15:16:47 STEVE MICHELINI.

15:16:51 WE ARE THE PETITIONERS ON THIS PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT

15:16:54 REQUEST.

15:16:54 AND I JUST RECEIVED THIS 20 MINUTES AGO OR SO.

15:16:58 SO LET ME JUST GO THROUGH FIRST WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING AND

15:17:06 HOW IT IS EVALUATED.

15:17:09 THE REQUEST CAME OUT OF A NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT WE HAD

15:17:12 WITH STAFF.

15:17:14 THIS WAS A BUILDER ASSOCIATION SERIES OF MEETINGS THAT

15:17:17 STARTED FOUR YEARS AGO, AND THERE WERE A WHOLE LIST.

15:17:22 THERE WERE OVER 90 ITEMS THAT CAME UP AS PART OF THAT

15:17:25 DISCUSSION REGARDING PERMITTING AND PROCESSING THAT WERE TO

15:17:29 BE ADDRESSED.

15:17:31 OVER TIME, THOSE WERE WHITTLED DOWN CONTINUALLY TO THE POINT

15:17:35 WE ARE NOW LEFT WITH FOUR REQUESTS, AND THEY ARE NOT

15:17:42 NECESSARILY IN ANY ORDER TO ESTABLISH 35 FEET AS A STANDARD

15:17:44 FOR THE HEIGHT.




15:17:46 AND THESE ARE TYPICALLY SMALLER DEVELOPMENTS.

15:17:48 THESE ARE NOT HUGE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE TOWERS.

15:17:54 THEY CAME OUT BECAUSE YOU HAD TOWNHOUSE PROJECTS THAT WERE

15:17:59 IN THE RM-24 ZONING CLASSIFICATION, AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE

15:18:04 TO STAIR STEP UP IN ORDER TO GET TO 35 FEET, BUT IF YOU HAD

15:18:07 A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE YOU COULD OBTAIN BY RIGHT.

15:18:10 AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THAT, WHAT'S HAPPENED IS FREQUENTLY WE

15:18:14 ARE COMING INTO CITY COUNCIL AND NOT ASKING FOR RM-24, WE

15:18:18 ARE ASKING FOR RM-18, WHICH HAS A SMALLER FOOTPRINT, SMALLER

15:18:24 SETBACKS, AND YOU CAN BUILD TO 35 FEET BY RIGHT.

15:18:28 SO I AM NOT SURE ABOUT HOW WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE THIS IS

15:18:33 GOING TO HAVE SOME NEGATIVE IMPACT.

15:18:36 ACTUALLY, IT DOES NOT INCREASE THE COST -- I KNOW THERE WERE

15:18:40 SOME COMMENTS ABOUT SOMEHOW AFFECTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

15:18:44 I HAVE EXAMINED THIS THOROUGHLY.

15:18:46 WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS TRY TO

15:18:49 FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH THAT ADVERSELY AFFECTS AFFORDABLE

15:18:51 HOUSING AND NO ONE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW THAT HAPPENED.

15:18:56 AS A RESULT, IT WAS FULLY VETTED BY CITY STAFF NOT ONCE, NOT

15:19:03 TWICE.

15:19:04 THIS IS THE TENTH HEARING THAT WE HAVE HAD INCLUDING THE

15:19:08 NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAT WE HAD SEPARATELY THAT WE WERE

15:19:11 ASKED TO CONDUCT.

15:19:15 THE AREAS THAT ARE AFFECTED FOR THE RM-24 WOULD BE THE SAME

15:19:19 AS IF YOU HAD A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.




15:19:22 YOU WOULD NEVER SUGGEST THAT IF YOU BUILT A HOUSE AT 30 FEET

15:19:25 THAT YOU WOULD THEN BE REQUIRED TO ADD ANOTHER 5 FEET OF

15:19:29 SETBACKS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING.

15:19:32 I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THAT ONE.

15:19:33 THE INTENSITY OF THE DESIGN STANDARD THAT MR. BENSON IS

15:19:38 TALKING ABOUT, IF THEY BELONG IN A CODE, YOU ARE INSERTING

15:19:43 DESIGN STANDARDS.

15:19:43 NO ONE THAT I KNOW WOULD EVER BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THAT,

15:19:52 WITH NO WINDOWS.

15:19:53 THERE ARE OTHER BUILDING CODES THAT KICK IN.

15:19:56 YOU HAVE LIFE SAFETY CODES.

15:19:57 YOU HAVE TO HAVE MEANS OF EGRESS, DO YOU NOT SEE IT?

15:20:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE SEE IT NOW, YES, SIR.

15:20:05 >>STEVE MICHELINI: BUT THIS IS TYPICALLY WHAT YOU HAVE.

15:20:09 AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERN ABOUT NOT HAVING

15:20:13 FENESTRATION, NOT HAVING WIND OWES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

15:20:16 BUT THERE ARE OTHER BUILDING CODES THAT AFFECT THAT.

15:20:18 AND WHY WOULD YOU EVER DO THAT?

15:20:22 YOU ARE PREVENTING LIGHT, AIR FROM GETTING INTO THE

15:20:24 BUILDING.

15:20:27 I WANT TO AGAIN BRING THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION THAT WE HAD

15:20:30 THIS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT WAS VETTED BY STAFF

15:20:34 AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND FORWARDED TO THE

15:20:37 RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

15:20:39 AGAIN, THE STAFF RECOMMENDED THIS.




15:20:42 THEY HAVE COME BEFORE YOU A NUMBER OF TIMES IN WORKSHOPS AS

15:20:47 WELL AS PUBLIC HEARINGS, RECOMMENDING THE ADOPTION OF THESE

15:20:50 REQUESTS.

15:20:52 LET ME GO THROUGH THE EXACT REQUESTS AND TRY TO EXPLAIN

15:20:57 WHAT'S HAPPENING.

15:21:12 THIS WAS THE LAST TRANSMITTAL THAT YOU HAD, UNTIL WE GOT THE

15:21:29 NEW ONE TODAY.

15:21:31 AND YOU CAN SEE THERE WERE MOST RECENTLY PRESENTED TO YOU

15:21:38 NINE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS COMING TO YOU.

15:21:40 THAT'S NOW DOWN TO FOUR.

15:21:44 THIS IS THE FOOTNOTE ISSUE REGARDING GOING FROM 35 FEET.

15:21:54 NOW YOU CAN MOVE THAT UP.

15:21:57 GOING FROM 35 -- OR 30 FEET TO 35 FEET BEFORE YOU START

15:22:02 STAIR STEPPING.

15:22:03 THAT IS A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL HEIGHT.

15:22:14 THE PARKING SPACES REGARDING THE TOWNHOUSES, REMOVING ONE

15:22:17 PARKING SPACE AND NOT HAVING A VISITOR SPACE FOR TWO UNITS.

15:22:20 IT ONLY APPLIED TO A TWO-UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

15:22:23 AGAIN, THE STAFF HAS EXPLAINED TO YOU, AND I THINK THAT WE

15:22:26 HAVE EXPLAINED TO YOU THAT WITH TWO UNITS IT'S HARD TO

15:22:28 FIGURE OUT WHO CONTROLS, WHO OWNS THAT THIRD PARKING SPACE.

15:22:35 IF IT'S A FEE SIMPLE ISSUE, THEN WHICH ONE OF THE

15:22:38 APARTMENTS, WHICH ONE OF THE SIDES DO YOU ASSIGN THAT TO?

15:22:43 IT REDUCES GREEN SPACE.

15:22:44 SO WE ARE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO ASK FOR GREEN SPACE WAIVERS




15:22:47 FOR VISITOR PARKING SPACE.

15:22:50 THAT DOESN'T ELIMINATE THE ALREADY REQUIRED PARKING SPACES

15:22:54 FOR THE GARAGE AND THE DRIVEWAY.

15:23:03 THIS IS THE COURTYARD ISSUE.

15:23:05 AND I SHOWED YOU A DIAGRAM.

15:23:08 IF WE WANT TO START INSERTING DESIGN STANDARDS CITY-WIDE

15:23:12 THEN ALL OF THE CODES HAVE TO BE REVIEWED FOR THAT, NOT JUST

15:23:15 THIS ONE.

15:23:16 BUT ANYWAY, WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT YOU BE

15:23:19 ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

15:23:21 THERE ARE OTHER BUILDING CODES THAT MATCH FENESTRATION.

15:23:33 AND HERE IS A LISTING OF ALL THE DIFFERENT MEETINGS THAT WE

15:23:36 HAVE HAD.

15:23:39 THE PUBLIC OUTREACH PROGRAM OF THAT WE TALKED TO FOR OVER

15:23:42 TWO HOURS, JUNE 14th.

15:23:45 WE ALSO HAD OTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.

15:23:47 THIS IS THE TENTH HEARING THAT WE HAVE HAD REGARDING THIS

15:23:51 ISSUE.

15:23:52 AGAIN, THEY HAVE BEEN REFINED.

15:23:54 AND WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT REASONABLE

15:23:58 CONSIDERING THE CODE.

15:23:59 SO WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DESIGN

15:24:01 EXCEPTION?

15:24:02 AND WE SUBMITTED PROBABLY OVER 100 OF THEM.

15:24:06 THEY ARE APPROVED.




15:24:07 NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN DISAPPROVED.

15:24:10 IT ADDS COSTS.

15:24:12 IT ADDS ANOTHER 60, 75 DAYS TO THE PROCESS, AND YOU ALL HAVE

15:24:18 BEEN HEARING ABOUT THE CRITICAL NEED FOR HOUSING.

15:24:21 IT DELAYS THAT PROCESS, AND IT SENDS YOU INTO ANOTHER

15:24:24 PROCESS BEFORE YOU CAN GET YOUR PERMIT.

15:24:27 SO WE ARE ASKING FOR RELIEF FROM THAT.

15:24:31 IF IT WERE CONTENTIOUS.

15:24:34 THE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS WERE NOT BEING GRANTED, IT WOULDN'T BE

15:24:37 AN ISSUE AND WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT

15:24:41 IT AND WE GO THROUGH THE PRO OTHER SEES, WITH A REZONING OR

15:24:45 WITH A DESIGN EXCEPTION.

15:24:49 WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT ELIMINATING THE CALCULATION, THIS IS

15:24:57 THE CALCULATION THAT'S OUTLINED AND HIGHLIGHTED IN D.

15:25:02 WE ASKED THREE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS INCLUDING ERIC COTTON,

15:25:06 GLORIA MOREDA WHEN SHE WAS HERE, MYSELF, AND OTHER BUILDERS,

15:25:11 WE COULDN'T EVER COME UP WITH THE SAME DIMENSION THAT THE

15:25:15 BUILDINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SEPARATED BY.

15:25:17 NOW, THIS IS A MECHANISM SETBACK AT 15 FEET.

15:25:20 AND IF YOU GO HIGHER, ACCORDING TO THE LIFE SAFETY CODE, YOU

15:25:24 HAVE TO INCREASE THAT HEIGHT.

15:25:26 THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BUILDING.

15:25:28 SO THIS DOESN'T RELIEVE ANY OF THESE BUILDINGS FROM MEETING

15:25:31 OTHER CODES.

15:25:33 IT SIMPLY ESTABLISHES A STANDARD, AND IT SAYS, OKAY, YOU ARE




15:25:36 GOING TO HAVE A MINIMUM SETBACK OF 15 FEET AND YOU HAVES TO

15:25:39 BE SAY, HOW DO WE GET TO 15 FEET?

15:25:42 IT PROVIDED FOR A 5-FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK AND 5 FEET OF

15:25:45 LANDSCAPING OR GREEN SPACE ON EACH SIDE.

15:25:48 THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THE 15 FEET.

15:25:49 AND THAT WAS THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FROM GLORIA MOREDA.

15:25:52 WE DIDN'T JUST DREAM THIS UP.

15:25:56 WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF HOW IT DELAYS THE

15:26:01 PROCESS.

15:26:03 IF YOU LOOK AT THE COURTYARD SCENARIO, AND I AM JUST GOING

15:26:08 TO THROW THIS OUT, NOT THAT YOU COULD BUY A LOT FOR

15:26:11 $100,000, BUT IF YOU BOUGHT A LOT FOR $100,000 AND YOU HAD

15:26:15 FOUR UNITS, THAT'S $25,000 FOR EACH OF THE LAND PARCELS.

15:26:21 IF YOU HAVE $100,000 AND YOU CAN ONLY BUILD TWO, THAT'S

15:26:25 $50,000 PER UNIT.

15:26:27 LAND COST.

15:26:29 SO WITH RESPECT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT ACTUALLY MAKES --

15:26:34 IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE IF YOU ALLOW INTERIOR COURTYARDS TO

15:26:39 EXIST AS OPPOSED TO IN THE LINEAR PICTURE THAT I SHOWED YOU

15:26:42 THAT STAFF HAD.

15:26:46 IF YOU ONLY HAD THESE TWO BUILDINGS, YOU WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED

15:26:49 TO BUILD ANY OF THE SIDE UNITS GOING DOWN TO THE COURTYARD.

15:26:55 SO THAT'S THE RELIEF THAT'S BEING SOUGHT.

15:26:59 I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

15:27:01 AND AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN THOROUGHLY VETTED THROUGH THE




15:27:05 ENTIRE PROCESS.

15:27:07 THERE WEREN'T ANY SECRETS IN HERE.

15:27:09 THIS WAS NOT DESIGNED TO SOMEHOW SUBVERT THE CODE.

15:27:12 THESE ARE TYPICAL ISSUES THAT GO BEFORE THE CITY PLANNING

15:27:15 OFFICE AND THE CITY ZONING OFFICE.

15:27:18 THE REQUEST FOR RELIEF EITHER FOR REZONING OR THROUGH A

15:27:22 DESIGN EXCEPTION.

15:27:23 AND THIS HELPS TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS AND OFFERS YOU

15:27:27 ELIMINATION OF A 60 TO 75-DAY DELAY, PLUS THE FILING AND

15:27:32 DESIGN FEES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

15:27:36 SO I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

15:27:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?

15:27:42 ALL RIGHT.

15:27:43 ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

15:27:51 >>THE CLERK: YES, I HAVE MS. STROHMEYER.

15:27:54 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

15:27:56 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

15:27:57 >> JEAN STROHMEYER: OKAY.

15:28:03 YOU CAN HEAR ME?

15:28:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU, JEAN.

15:28:06 >> OKAY.

15:28:07 SO I WAS LISTENING TO MR. MICHELINI HERE AND HAVE DIFFERENT

15:28:12 POINTS TO MAKE.

15:28:14 JUST BECAUSE STAFF REFERS TO SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN AT THIS

15:28:17 TIME RIGHT THING.




15:28:24 A GIANT APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THAT WASN'T A BIG THING TO DO.

15:28:28 IT WASN'T THEIR FAULT.

15:28:29 BUT AGAIN, THEY DON'T NOTICE WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW SOMETIMES.

15:28:33 SO I HAVE QUITE A FEW LETTERS WRITTEN INTO THE FILE SO I AM

15:28:40 NOT GOING TO INTO THAT.

15:28:42 I KNOW -- SENT SOME STUFF, AND MR. MICHELINI SAYS 9 TO 4,

15:28:52 THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT STILL THE BEST THING TO BE DO FOR OUR

15:28:54 NEIGHBORHOOD.

15:28:57 OH, AND HE SHOWED A PICTURE, THEY SHOWED A PICTURE OF ALL

15:29:03 THAT BUT I KNOW IN THE LAST MEETING, MS. POYNOR SHOWED A

15:29:06 PICTURE THAT SHOWED US THE TOP OF THE BEFORE, AND STARTED

15:29:13 GOING HALFWAY UP THE OTHER BUILDING NEXT TO IT.

15:29:16 SO THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A GOOD SOLID ARGUMENT.

15:29:20 LET'S SEE, WE HAVE -- OH, TALKING ABOUT DESIGN STANDARDS

15:29:24 THAT WE SHOULD HAVE CITY-WIDE, BUT ALL OF HYDE PARK ISN'T

15:29:31 NEW TAMPA, AND WE CAN'T HAVE THE SAME DESIGN IN OLD HYDE

15:29:33 PARK AS WE DO IN SOUTH TAMPA OR WHATEVER, SO THAT'S NOT

15:29:43 GOOD.

15:29:43 AGAIN I SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, IT'S THE FOX

15:29:48 MINDING THE HEN HOUSE.

15:29:49 I WOULDN'T WANT THE FOX ANYWHERE NEAR.

15:29:52 SO LASTLY, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD PROBABLY WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE

15:30:00 SOMEBODY TO TAKE THE POSITION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

15:30:03 MR. DINGFELDER WAS TOLD TO SHUT UP.

15:30:05 AND HE WAS TOLD ON THE RECORD, IF YOU ALL WILL RECALL IN




15:30:08 CITY COUNCIL BY ONE OF THESE DEVELOPERS GUYS, THEY TOLD HIM

15:30:11 TO ACTUALLY SHUT UP, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER THE HOTLINE MOMENT,

15:30:15 AND WE DIDN'T APPRECIATE THAT.

15:30:16 SO GUIDING THE HEN HOUSE, AND WE HAVE GOT SOMEBODY WHO WAS

15:30:23 PART OF THIS ISSUE RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK THIS NEITHER NEEDS

15:30:27 TO MAYBE START OVER AGAIN.

15:30:28 AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

15:30:33 ALL RIGHT, HAVE A GREAT DAY.

15:30:34 >>THE CLERK: THE OTHER SPEAKER WE HAVE WAS STEPHANIE

15:30:39 POYNOR.

15:30:40 AGAIN SHE IS NOT LOGGED ON AT THIS TIME.

15:30:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

15:30:42 ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

15:30:47 >> I REPRESENT THE TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.

15:30:56 WE ARE 1100 MEMBERS STRONG, AND WE REPRESENT ALL SEGMENTS OF

15:31:01 THE INDUSTRY THAT PROVIDE THE AMERICAN DREAM OF HOME

15:31:04 OWNERSHIP.

15:31:06 FRANKLY, I WAS PLANNING ON COMING HERE AND SUPPORTING THIS

15:31:09 ITEM, AND I THOUGHT EVERYTHING WOULD BE FANTASTIC AND WE

15:31:14 WOULD HAVE A NICE EASY TIME.

15:31:15 BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE.

15:31:18 SO I WILL JUST GO AHEAD AND LET YOU KNOW AS THE ONLY PAID

15:31:21 PERSON WORKING ON BEHALF OF THIS ORGANIZATION AND ITS

15:31:25 MEMBERS, THESE TWO GUYS SPENT AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME, BLOOD

15:31:29 SWEAT AND TEARS, DOING THE WORK OF A VOLUNTEER MEMBER TO




15:31:34 HELP ENGAGE THE BUILDING COMMUNITY AND HELP BRING FORWARD

15:31:38 SOME THINGS THAT WERE WOULD STREAMLINE THE PROCESS.

15:31:41 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE STAFF FOR

15:31:44 MANY YEARS.

15:31:45 EVERY SINGLE MONTH, TBBA MEETS WITH THE CITY STAFF TO

15:31:49 DISCUSS POLICY AND PROCESSION ISSUES RELATED TO THE BUILDING

15:31:53 CODE.

15:31:53 THIS IS ALL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

15:31:55 SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND, AND FRANKLY I RESPECT THE CONCERNS OF

15:32:00 THE COMMUNITY, IT'S REAL SIMPLE, GUYS.

15:32:04 THERE'S ONLY FOUR COMPONENTS TO BUILDING A HOUSE.

15:32:08 MATERIALS, LABOR, LAND, AND LOCAL REGULATIONS.

15:32:12 YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CONTROL ANY OF THOSE EXCEPT

15:32:16 LOCAL REGULATIONS.

15:32:17 I HAVE GOT TRUST PACKAGES THAT HAVE INCREASED $30,000 A WEEK

15:32:22 EVERY SINGLE WEEK FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.

15:32:26 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THAT.

15:32:27 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO ADDRESSING LAND COSTS.

15:32:29 AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO MOVE TO TAMPA BAY, BUILD A HOUSE,

15:32:32 HAVE A POOL PUT IN.

15:32:33 THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.

15:32:35 SO ALL WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS COME FORWARD IN GOOD FAITH AND

15:32:39 PRESENT THINGS THAT THE STAFF AGREES WITH AND THAT MOST

15:32:42 REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN AGREE WITH SO THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH

15:32:45 THIS PROCESS AS QUICKLY AND PAINLESSLY AS POSSIBLE.




15:32:49 BUT I WILL NEVER HAVE THESE GUYS COME BEFORE US AGAIN IF

15:32:51 THIS IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO BUSINESS BECAUSE THIS HAS

15:32:53 BEEN WORKED ON FOR FOUR YEARS.

15:32:56 THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN OFF MY BOARD FOR FOUR YEARS.

15:33:00 LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING.

15:33:01 I BEG OF YOU.

15:33:02 IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN SCRAP THE WHOLE THING, BUT WE ARE

15:33:06 NOT GOING TO DO THIS AGAIN.

15:33:07 I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, GENTLEMEN, VERY MUCH.

15:33:09 THANK YOU.

15:33:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?

15:33:18 >> FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE

15:33:23 TIME YOU GUYS PUT IN, AND IT'S CHALLENGING.

15:33:29 SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

15:33:32 PROBABLY SAID FOUR YEARS AGO, GLORIA MOREDA AND TEN YEARS

15:33:36 AGO SITTING ON THE ECC COMMITTEE, THE ECONOMIC COMPETITIVE

15:33:42 COMMITTEE LIKE THE PREVIOUS MAYOR HAD PUT ON, I WAS ON THAT

15:33:45 BOARD, AND THE IDEA WAS TO COME UP WITH IDEAS THAT WOULD

15:33:48 MAKE THIS CITY MORE COMPETITIVE WHEN PEOPLE THINK ABOUT

15:33:52 OTHER CITIES, LET'S STREAMLINE.

15:33:56 I HAVE SEEN LIKE PICTURES OF A ALL THE RULES, REGULATIONS OF

15:34:02 THE CITY OF TAMPA, A STACK THIS MUCH IS CHAPTER 27 IN THE

15:34:06 CODE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.

15:34:08 THE ZONING CODES ARE VERY, VERY COMPLEX AND IF THAT ISN'T

15:34:15 PERFECT THEN WE ARE GONE.




15:34:16 SO THE IDEA HOW DO WE TWEAK SOME THINGS TO MAKE STAFF MORE

15:34:20 EFFICIENT, GET PERMITS MORE EFFICIENT WITHOUT AFFECTING

15:34:24 NEIGHBORHOODS AND THAT WAS THE IDEA.

15:34:25 GLAD YOU SAID THE WORD NAIVE BECAUSE I THOUGHT NAIVE WAS A

15:34:29 SIMPLE THING, LIKE THE TREE FUND, PCC FOLKS, SEE SOMETHING,

15:34:38 TREE SOMETHING, DOZENS AND DOZENS TRYING TO GET THE TREE

15:34:42 CODE REDONE.

15:34:43 THAT WAS ALL VOLUNTEER WORK.

15:34:45 AND WE WANT TO MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA BETTER, AND THESE ARE

15:34:50 NOT DONE TO SLIP SOMETHING IN, OR SOME JOB SPECIFIC THING,

15:34:58 THAT WOULD MAKE THE CITY MORE EFFICIENT AND STAFF MORE

15:35:03 EFFICIENT, AND RESPECTFULLY HOPE YOU APPROVE TODAY.

15:35:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:35:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

15:35:18 MR. MANISCALCO MOVED TO CLOSE, MR. VIERA SECOND.

15:35:23 MR. CITRO?

15:35:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE NUMBER E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27, ORDINANCE

15:35:33 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN

15:35:36 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO A

15:35:39 PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT, MAKING REVISIONS TO THE

15:35:44 CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27, ZONING AND LAND

15:35:48 DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING SECTION 27-156, OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF

15:35:55 DISTRICT REGULATIONS, AMENDING SECTION 27-126, YARDS BETWEEN

15:36:02 RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, AMENDING SECTION 27-282.10,

15:36:08 MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOUSE-STYLE DESIGN STANDARDS, AMENDING




15:36:13 SECTION 27-283.7, NUMBER OF OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES,

15:36:20 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF

15:36:25 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR

15:36:29 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

15:36:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA.

15:36:33 ROLL CALL.

15:36:34 >>BILL CARLSON: I PREVIOUSLY STATED MY REASONS FOR VOTING

15:36:39 NO AND WILL VOTE NO AGAIN.

15:36:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

15:36:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

15:36:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

15:36:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

15:36:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES?

15:36:48 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.

15:36:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 64.

15:36:54 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

15:36:59 ITEM NUMBER 64 IS REZ 21-104 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND

15:37:04 READING AND ADOPTION, FOR 6907 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE.

15:37:08 THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS

15:37:11 RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS

15:37:19 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY USES.

15:37:22 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AT CITY HALL YESTERDAY.

15:37:25 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

15:37:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. BARNES?

15:37:31 ALL RIGHT.




15:37:32 THE APPLICANT?

15:37:33 >> MY NAME IS YONI WASSER, 400 ASHLEY DRIVE AND I REPRESENT

15:37:42 THE APPLICANTS ON THIS ITEM.

15:37:44 OUT OF RESPECT FOR COUNCIL'S BUSINESS DAY I WILL KEEP THIS

15:37:46 VERY BRIEF.

15:37:47 THIS REZONING RECEIVED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL BACK ON FEBRUARY

15:37:50 24.

15:37:51 SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED ALL REQUESTED

15:37:53 MODIFICATIONS.

15:37:55 I THOUGHT I NEEDED TO THAN SWORN IN.

15:37:57 GO AHEAD.

15:37:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.

15:38:01 ANYONE THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, SWEAR THEM?

15:38:05 ALL RIGHT.

15:38:06 ANYBODY ELSE, SIR?

15:38:07 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

15:38:10 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

15:38:13 >> I DO.

15:38:17 AS I WAS SAYING, WE SEEK UNANIMOUS APPROVAL ON FEBRUARY

15:38:20 24th.

15:38:20 SINCE THEN WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED ALL REQUESTED MODIFICATIONS

15:38:23 INCLUDING CLEANING UP OUR SITE PLAN AS WELL AS ADDING A

15:38:26 VARIETY OF TRANSPORTATION NOTES.

15:38:28 WE ARE HERE TO RECEIVE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL AGAIN TODAY.

15:38:30 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.




15:38:32 THANK YOU.

15:38:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF THE GENTLEMAN?

15:38:34 ALL RIGHT.

15:38:35 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

15:38:39 ANYONE REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM?

15:38:40 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.

15:38:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED IT.

15:38:44 MR. CITRO SECOND IT.

15:38:46 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:38:47 OPPOSED?

15:38:47 MOTION GRANTED.

15:38:48 MR. VIERA.

15:38:51 64, SIR.

15:38:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

15:38:56 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AN

15:38:59 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 6907 NORTH

15:39:02 NEBRASKA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE

15:39:04 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT

15:39:06 CLASSIFICATION SH-RS SEMINOLE HEIGHTS RESIDENTIAL

15:39:09 SINGLE-FAMILY TO SH-CI SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE

15:39:13 TO SH-PD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL

15:39:16 MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

15:39:17 >> SECOND.

15:39:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.

15:39:23 ROLL CALL.




15:39:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

15:39:25 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

15:39:26 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

15:39:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

15:39:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:

15:39:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

15:39:32 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING

15:39:34 ABSENT AT VOTE.

15:39:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 65.

15:39:42 OH, BONUS PROVISION.

15:39:47 CITRO, MANISCALCO.

15:39:49 MOTION GRANTED.

15:39:51 ITEM 65.

15:39:52 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

15:39:56 ITEM NUMBER 65 IS AB 2-21-31 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND

15:40:01 READING AND ADOPTION, 401 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE TO ALLOW THE

15:40:06 SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR SMALL VENUE BEER, WINE,

15:40:10 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY, SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AT

15:40:13 CITY HALL YESTERDAY, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF

15:40:16 NEEDED.

15:40:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. BARNES?

15:40:19 SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT?

15:40:23 >> JIM PORTER WITH ACKERMAN, I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN.

15:40:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

15:40:30 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).




15:40:31 >> JIM PORTER: I DO.

15:40:34 WE ARE HERE FOR SECOND READING.

15:40:36 WE AMENDED THE SITE PLAN TO PROHIBIT OUTDOOR MUSIC.

15:40:41 WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR APPROVAL.

15:40:45 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

15:40:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

15:40:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I MISSED -- THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR

15:40:51 STAFF.

15:40:53 IS IT OUTSIDE AMPLIFIED MUSIC OR SOUND?

15:40:57 >> MUSIC.

15:40:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MUSIC.

15:40:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, THAT'S THE QUESTION.

15:41:06 >> I THOUGHT COUNCIL'S INTENT WAS -- WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO

15:41:15 THE NOISE SOUND.

15:41:16 MS. BARNES MAY SPEAK TO THAT.

15:41:18 BUT WE WERE -- A CITIZEN REQUESTED THAT AT THE FIRST READING

15:41:23 AND WE COMPLIED WITH THAT.

15:41:26 THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD COUNCIL'S INTENT TO BE.

15:41:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS MS. BARNES ON LINE?

15:41:33 IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST WANTED A CLARIFICATION

15:41:36 FOR CONSISTENCY.

15:41:42 THE SITE PLAN WAS DELIVERED FOR SOUND, I GUESS.

15:41:45 I JUST WANTED --

15:41:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MRS. BARNES?

15:41:53 THERE SHE IS.




15:41:54 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

15:41:59 I AM PULLING UP THE SITE PLAN NOW.

15:42:24 THE SITE PLAN SAYS NO OUTDOOR MUSIC SHALL BE ALLOWED

15:42:28 ON-SITE.

15:42:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ?

15:42:36 SINCE WE ARE SPEAKING OF HYPOTHETICALS TODAY, I HAVE BEEN TO

15:42:42 MANY A BINGO HALL WHERE IT GETS LOUD BECAUSE OF AMPLIFIED

15:42:47 CALLING OF NUMBERS.

15:42:49 I HAVE BEEN TO AUCTION HOUSES WHERE IT GETS AWFUL LOUD.

15:42:52 NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN A BAR-RESTAURANT.

15:42:55 BUT IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AMPLIFIED MUSIC AND

15:42:58 AMPLIFIED SOUND?

15:42:59 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

15:43:01 I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION, BUT I THINK

15:43:04 CERTAINLY MUSIC IS ENCOMPASSED WITHIN SOUND, BUT THERE COULD

15:43:10 BE OTHER SOUNDS --

15:43:13 >> JIM PORTER: I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE WORD SOUND.

15:43:16 I WAS JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.

15:43:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW DID THAT BE DONE BEFORE SECOND

15:43:24 READING?

15:43:25 IS THAT POSSIBLE?

15:43:30 IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.

15:43:32 I DON'T HAVE A POSITION.

15:43:34 >> I THINK I UNDERSTOOD COUNCIL'S INTENT AT THE LAST

15:43:36 MEETING.




15:43:37 WE CHOSE THE WORD MUSIC BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT YOU

15:43:39 WANTED.

15:43:40 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR,

15:43:43 CHANGE THE SITE PLAN TO SOUND.

15:43:44 I JUST DON'T WANT FOR THE SAKE OF A CLIENT TO BE DELAYED

15:43:47 BECAUSE OF A WORD, THAT WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO.

15:43:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS MAY BE SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANT TO TALK

15:43:59 ABOUT IN THE FUTURE.

15:44:02 ESPECIALLY UNDER THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

15:44:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANYTHING OVER A CERTAIN DECIBEL.

15:44:11 >> AND THIS IS A SMALL VENUE TEN TEETH SEAT RESTAURANT.

15:44:16 I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN CITROO CONCERN.

15:44:18 THE SPACE ISN'T THERE TO DO BINGO AND IT'S NOT THAT TYPE OF

15:44:21 EVENT.

15:44:21 SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.

15:44:23 I THINK THE RISK TO ANY SORT OF VIOLATION IS VERY SMALL.

15:44:28 BUT WHATEVER COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS.

15:44:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT CAN BE USED FOR MOST JUST SINGING.

15:44:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS MOVING FORWARD, WE MIGHT WANT

15:44:43 TO --

15:44:47 [ LAUGHTER ]

15:44:49 OKAY, THANK YOU, MR. PORTER, FOR THAT.

15:44:51 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. PORTER?

15:44:53 ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

15:44:55 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.




15:44:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO ONE ELSE IN THE HOUSE.

15:45:00 OKAY.

15:45:02 MOVE TO CLOSE MANISCALCO, SECOND MIRANDA.

15:45:04 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:45:05 ANY OPPOSED?

15:45:06 MOTION GRANTED.

15:45:11 MR. MIRANDA?

15:45:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL TAKE IT.

15:45:16 ITEM NUMBER 65, FILE AB 2-21-31.

15:45:21 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,

15:45:23 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOL

15:45:27 BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY

15:45:30 AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT

15:45:33 CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 401 SOUTH

15:45:36 HOWARD AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED

15:45:39 IN SECTION 2 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF

15:45:42 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

15:45:45 DATE.

15:45:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA.

15:45:49 ROLL CALL.

15:45:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

15:45:52 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

15:45:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

15:45:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

15:45:55 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.




15:45:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CHANGED MINE TO YES BECAUSE OF THE SITE

15:46:01 PLAN.

15:46:02 YES.

15:46:02 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

15:46:04 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

15:46:05 FROM NOW ON, SOUND ONLY, NO MUSIC.

15:46:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 66.

15:46:10 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

15:46:16 AB 2-22-01.

15:46:18 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION FOR 2301

15:46:22 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE FOR SPECIAL USE 2, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE

15:46:25 SALES, LARGE VENUE, BEER AND WINE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES,

15:46:30 SALE OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.

15:46:34 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TO CITY HALL.

15:46:37 I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

15:46:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MRS. BARNES?

15:46:40 ALL RIGHT.

15:46:41 WE HAVE AN ADVOCATE, SWORN IN, PLEASE?

15:46:45 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

15:46:47 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

15:46:48 >> YES.

15:46:55 GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

15:46:57 MY NAME IS KI-MAI REPRESENTING PETITIONER, THE SPECIAL USE

15:47:04 REQUEST TO ALLOW FOR SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR LIVE

15:47:07 VENUE, BEER AND WINE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES IN PACKAGE




15:47:10 SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.

15:47:15 THE PROJECT LOCATION IS IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.

15:47:20 AB SALES IS 5,922 SQUARE FEET INDOORS, AND THE PROJECT SITE

15:47:26 IS FOR A WINE TASTING BAR, OFFICES, WINE PRODUCTION AND

15:47:31 PACKAGING, WINE AGING STORAGE WITH WHOLESALE AND FAMILY

15:47:36 OWNED AND OPERATED BY WINE STREAM INCORPORATED.

15:47:38 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF THE

15:47:41 SPECIAL USE.

15:47:41 THANK YOU.

15:47:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

15:47:45 ALL RIGHT.

15:47:46 ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM?

15:47:48 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.

15:47:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

15:47:52 MOVE TO CLOSE?

15:47:54 MR. MANISCALCO, SECOND BY MIRANDA.

15:47:57 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:47:58 OPPOSED?

15:47:59 MOTION GRANTED.

15:48:03 MR. CARLSON.

15:48:03 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE AB 2-22-01,

15:48:09 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,

15:48:11 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR

15:48:14 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES LARGE VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES

15:48:17 AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION AND MAKING LAWFUL




15:48:20 THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT

15:48:24 OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 2301 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE TAMPA,

15:48:28 FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2

15:48:30 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN

15:48:32 CONFLICT ARE REPEALED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

15:48:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.

15:48:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.

15:48:37 ROLL CALL.

15:48:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

15:48:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.

15:48:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

15:48:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

15:48:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

15:48:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.

15:48:48 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO AND GUDES VOTING NO.

15:48:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 67.

15:48:53 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

15:48:57 ITEM NUMBER 67 IS AB 2-22-02 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND

15:49:02 READING AND ADOPTION, FOR 601 SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD

15:49:06 FOR SPECIAL USE 2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE

15:49:10 BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.

15:49:13 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY

15:49:17 QUESTIONS.

15:49:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. BARNES?

15:49:21 ALL RIGHT.




15:49:23 AN APPLICANT?

15:49:29 ALL RIGHT.

15:49:31 RAISE YOUR HAND, BE SWORN IN, SIR.

15:49:33 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)

15:49:35 >> KEVIN REALI, FOR THE RECORD, FOR THE APPLICANT, AND JUST

15:49:46 HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

15:49:48 ALL OF THE REQUESTED SITE PLAN CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND

15:49:51 SECOND READING HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND WE RESPECTFULLY

15:49:54 REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.

15:49:55 THANK YOU.

15:49:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

15:50:00 ALL RIGHT.

15:50:02 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

15:50:04 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.

15:50:05 >>THE CLERK: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.

15:50:13 MOTION GRANTED.

15:50:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AB 2-22-02, I HAVE AN ORDINANCE

15:50:18 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE

15:50:20 APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE

15:50:23 SALES LARGE VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING

15:50:26 LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC

15:50:28 CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR

15:50:32 TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 601 SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD,

15:50:36 TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2

15:50:39 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN




15:50:41 CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

15:50:43 >> SECOND.

15:50:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.

15:50:46 ROLL CALL VOTE.

15:50:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.

15:50:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

15:50:50 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

15:50:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

15:50:53 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

15:50:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.

15:50:55 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO AND GUDES VOTING NO.

15:50:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 68?

15:51:03 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

15:51:05 ITEM NUMBER 68 IS MUCH AB 2-20-11 PLACED ON THE AGENDA

15:51:10 PURSUANT TO COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE DUE TO A 3-3 TIE VOTE

15:51:13 ON FEBRUARY 24, 2022.

15:51:16 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SPECIAL USE 2 FOR ALCOHOLIC

15:51:22 BEVERAGE SALES FOR SMALL VENUE BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR,

15:51:25 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES, 703

15:51:31 NORTH WILLOW AVENUE.

15:51:32 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

15:51:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY?

15:51:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.

15:51:38 IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON NUMBER 68?

15:51:41 ARE THEY AVAILABLE?




15:51:53 YOU ARE SEE NO ONE THERE.

15:51:55 IF THE APPLICANT WITH WERE HERE, THIS IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC

15:51:57 HEARING, AND CONTINUED TO A DATE AND TIME CERTAIN.

15:52:02 CERTAINLY IF THERE'S ANOTHER 3-3 TIE THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO

15:52:04 BE CONTINUED.

15:52:07 IT APPEARS THAT'S THE SITUATION.

15:52:10 WITHOUT THE APPLICANT, THE QUESTION IS, HOW IS HE ABLE TO BE

15:52:15 AWARE OF WHEN THIS IS BEING CONTINUED TO?

15:52:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SUSAN JOHNSON ALVAREZ?

15:52:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK IN TERMS OF NOTICE, IT IS A

15:52:27 NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING AND IT'S BEEN CONTINUED.

15:52:37 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

15:52:38 WHEN THIS WAS CONTINUED, AT YOUR FIRST READING, THE DATE AND

15:52:45 TIME WAS ANNOUNCED FOR TODAY.

15:52:49 CORRECT.

15:52:49 SO I AM NOT SURE WHY THE APPLICANT IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR CITY

15:52:54 COUNCIL HEARING.

15:52:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD IT BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR STAFF TO

15:52:59 REACH OUT?

15:53:01 OTHERWISE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE RENOTICED, AND THAT WOULD

15:53:04 SLOW THINGS DOWN.

15:53:06 I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD KNOW WHEN

15:53:09 IT'S BEING CONTINUED TO.

15:53:10 IF THE APPLICANT WERE HERE --

15:53:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, MS. BARNES IS TRYING TO GET IN




15:53:18 TOUCH.

15:53:18 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

15:53:20 SO THE APPLICANT AND AGENT, WHEN IT WAS ANNOUNCED FEBRUARY

15:53:28 24th, 2022 HEARING, THAT IT WAS A TYPO AND WOULD BE

15:53:33 CONTINUED TO THIS DATE AT HEARING.

15:53:35 SO THEY KNEW THAT THIS MEETING WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

15:53:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO IT RAISES A QUESTION IF THIS GETS

15:53:45 CONTINUED NOW, AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE, HOW WOULD WE

15:53:49 BE ABLE TO ASSURE THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF WHAT COUNCIL'S

15:53:52 ACTION IS TODAY?

15:53:53 >>BILL CARLSON: ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS BESIDES CONTINUING

15:53:58 OR IS THAT THE ONLY OPTION?

15:54:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNLESS SOMEBODY CHANGES THEIR VOTE.

15:54:03 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: IF SOMEBODY CHANGES THEIR VOTE AND

15:54:08 YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT RESULT.

15:54:10 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE LIKE A FOR FIT OR SOMETHING?

15:54:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDER THE CODE, I HAVEN'T CHECKED

15:54:16 RECENTLY, BUT I GUESS THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

15:54:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN WE JUST CONTINUE THE ITEM?

15:54:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD WE REQUEST THE STAFF NOTIFY THE

15:54:29 APPLICANT OF THE NEW DATE?

15:54:32 HERE IS A QUESTION, COUNCIL.

15:54:33 THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS APRIL 7th, BUT THAT WOULD BE

15:54:37 THE LITERAL FIRST DAY OF THE TENTATIVE TIMELINE OF THE

15:54:41 7th COUNCIL MEMBERS.




15:54:42 THE NEXT DATE AFTER THAT IS FEBRUARY 21st.

15:54:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO APRIL

15:54:48 21st.

15:54:50 WE'LL DO IT AT 10:30 A.M. AS IT'S ALREADY SET, AND THAT WE

15:54:53 NOTIFY THE APPLICANT SO THEY ARE AWARE OF THIS.

15:54:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

15:55:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED IT MR. VIERA SECOND

15:55:07 IT.

15:55:07 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:55:08 MOTION GRANTED.

15:55:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

15:55:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 69.

15:55:15 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

15:55:19 RON WIGGINTON LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

15:55:21 ITEM NUMBER 69 IS AN APPLICATION TO VACATE AN ALLEYWAY BY

15:55:24 MAKO CAR WASH LOCATE IT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4438

15:55:28 KENNEDY BOULEVARD, AND THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

15:55:31 AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WIDE LATITUDE IS AFFORDED TO CITY

15:55:36 COUNCIL IN MAKING THE DECISION TO APPROVE OR DENIAL THE

15:55:38 APPLICATION, AND THE FACTORS TO CONSIDER WHEN DETERMINING

15:55:42 WHETHER IT'S IN THE PUBLIC'S BEST INTEREST TO VACATE INCLUDE

15:55:46 WHETHER IT WILL RELIEVE THE PUBLIC FROM THE COST OF

15:55:48 MAINTAINING THE ALLEYWAY, WHETHER IT WILL ALLEVIATE A PUBLIC

15:55:51 NUISANCE SUCH AS ILLEGAL DUMPING, WHETHER IT OCCUR TAILS

15:55:55 CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, WHETHER IT WILL FOSTER OR HINDER




15:55:58 REDEVELOPMENT OF THE ABUTTED PROPERTIES, AND WHETHER IT WILL

15:56:01 CUT OFF OR SUBSTANTIALLY DIMINISH ACCESS TO THE PROPERTIES.

15:56:05 MR. ROSS SALMON IS AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY TO PROVIDE HIS

15:56:08 REPORT.

15:56:09 AND I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS.

15:56:12 THANK YOU.

15:56:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

15:56:16 ROSS?

15:56:21 SHE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.

15:56:21 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)

15:56:23 >> I WOULD ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.

15:56:36 CAN COUNCIL SEE MY SCREEN?

15:56:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

15:56:55 WE GOT IT NOW.

15:56:55 >>ROSS SAMMONS: OKAY.

15:57:02 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION PRESENTING FILE VAC-21-18.

15:57:10 THE PROPOSED REQUEST TO VACATE THE ALLEYWAY SOUTH OF JOHN F.

15:57:15 KENNEDY BOULEVARD, EAST OF HESPERIDES AVENUE, THIS ALLEY WAS

15:57:20 CREATED FOR SUBDIVISION PLAT, SUBDIVISION.

15:57:24 LOCATED IN SOUTH TAMPA, AND THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT.

15:57:28 THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED 9-20-21.

15:57:32 THE APPLICANT OWNS THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE

15:57:35 ALLEY THAT IS REQUESTED TO BE VACATED.

15:57:37 THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS AS FOLLOWS.

15:57:40 THE ALLEY RUNS BEHIND THE BUILDINGS, DEAD-ENDS AT THE EAST




15:57:44 END, IS UNUSABLE AS AN ALLEY TO ACCESS THIS BLOCK.

15:57:48 THIS ALLEY IS IN THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT AND NO

15:57:51 EXISTING CODE VIOLATIONS FOR THIS PROPERTY.

15:57:56 THE TOTAL SQUARE FEET APPROXIMATELY OF THE ALLEY REQUESTED

15:58:00 TO BE VACATED IS 4,080 SQUARE FEET, PARTIALLY INCLUDED,

15:58:05 ASPHALT PAVING AT THE EAST END, AND APPEARS TO BE USED BY

15:58:09 THE OWNER OF 4430 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, WITH ACCESS TO THE

15:58:14 ALLEY.

15:58:15 A DOOR OPENS ONTO THE ALLEY.

15:58:17 THE ALLEY IS OPENED AT THE WEST END.

15:58:22 WASTEWATER, TECO, FRONTIER FACILITIES LOCATED IN THE ALLEY.

15:58:25 ALLEY CONTINUES TO THE EAST ONLY IN THE SUBJECT ALLEY.

15:58:30 THE ALLEY'S CONTINUATION IS IMPROVED.

15:58:32 AGAIN IN YELLOW IS THE PROPOSED VACANT REQUEST OF THE ALLEY

15:58:36 IN YELLOW AND PROPERTY OWNER THE IN RED.

15:58:40 AND IT DOES CONTINUE HERE TO THE EAST.

15:58:49 AGAIN THE ALLEY PROPOSED TO BEING VACATED.

15:58:54 AGAIN, SHOWING -- THE ALLEY HERE PROPOSED TO BE VACATED.

15:59:07 THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING WEST.

15:59:12 AND THE DOORWAY, 4430, OPENS ONTO THE ALLEY.

15:59:20 ALLEY LOOKING EAST FROM HESPERIDES AVENUE.

15:59:24 ACCESS TO THE ALLEY AT 4438 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

15:59:32 THE OCCUPANT'S PARCEL LOOKING SOUTH ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

15:59:39 THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNER SOUTH KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

15:59:46 ABUTTING PARCELS LOOKING WEST ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ALLEY




15:59:50 ARE CONSIDERED HART TRACKS.

15:59:56 AND HERE IS A CONTINUATION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST, AND

16:00:00 THIS IS NOT TO BE VACATED.

16:00:05 STAFF OBJECTS TO THE VACATING REQUEST BASED ON RESPONSES

16:00:08 RECEIVED FROM TRANSPORTATION, PLANNING, URBAN DESIGN.

16:00:10 THIS VACANT REQUEST IF APPROVED BY COUNCIL, EASEMENT

16:00:13 RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR WASTEWATER, TECO, FRONTIER.

16:00:17 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

16:00:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF ROSS?

16:00:23 ALL RIGHT.

16:00:25 THE APPLICANT NOW.

16:00:26 >>TODD PRESSMAN: IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.

16:00:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.

16:00:42 CAN YOU SEE THE PowerPoint, SIR?

16:00:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOT YET.

16:00:52 WE GOT IT.

16:00:53 WE GOT IT.

16:00:53 >>TODD PRESSMAN: YOU HAVE IT, SIR?

16:00:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.

16:00:57 >>TODD PRESSMAN: VACATE 21-18, WHICH HAS BEEN WELL

16:01:02 PRESENTED BY THE STAFF.

16:01:06 THIS IS THE ALLEY LINKED TO NOWHERE, IT'S UNIMPROVED, MOST

16:01:11 LIT UNIMPROVED.

16:01:12 THERE'S IN A HISTORY OF TRAVEL BY ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC.

16:01:14 IT'S IN PRETTY BAD CONDITION.




16:01:16 IT'S UNSAFE.

16:01:17 IT CREATES TRASH AND SAFETY ISSUES.

16:01:21 WE ARE GENERALLY LOCATED AT KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

16:01:23 THIS WOULD BE FOR THE ALLEY THERE.

16:01:27 THIS IS HESPERIDES, AND THIS IS LAUBER.

16:01:35 THE ALLEYWAY IS BLOCKED BY BUILDINGS.

16:01:38 AT THIS POINT, THIS IS THE UNIMPROVED ALLEY, AND BLOCKED AT

16:01:42 THIS POINT.

16:01:43 AGAIN THIS IS REALLY AN ALLEYWAY TO NOWHERE.

16:01:45 WE TALKED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS OVER HERE ABOUT EVENTUALLY

16:01:49 MOVING FORWARD WITH A VACATING.

16:01:51 SO THIS ALLEYWAY IS UNIMPROVED AS WELL.

16:01:55 WE ARE DOWN ONE BLOCK AT THIS POINT, A BLOCK AT THIS POINT.

16:01:59 IT'S NOT FOR VEHICLE PASSAGE.

16:02:02 IT'S ONLY PARTIALLY IMPROVED.

16:02:04 AND THE SAME IN 2016, 2009, 2004.

16:02:12 THIS IS THE CLOSE AT THE WEST END, THE CLOSE IF HE EAST END.

16:02:20 THE ALLEY NEXT DOOR IS USED FOR PARKING AND FOR PURPOSES OF

16:02:26 THE BUSINESS AS IT IS HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE CONDITION OF THE

16:02:30 ALLEY NEXT DOOR IS.

16:02:32 WE TALKED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER NEXT DOOR ABOUT THE

16:02:36 ALLEYWAY, AND THESE ARE UNIMPROVED AREAS OF THE ALLEYWAY

16:02:42 THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT.

16:02:43 NOW, ONE CRITICAL FACTOR OF PRIME PREVENTION THROUGH

16:02:48 ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, I IT HAS FOUR MAJOR FUNCTIONS, KEEP




16:02:52 THINGS SAFE, BECAUSE THE ALLEYWAYS ARE DARK, THEY ARE NOT

16:02:55 TRAVELED, THE RETAIL STORES NEXT DOOR, IT IS DARK IN THE

16:03:06 BACK AND PEOPLE CAN CONGREGATE THAT, AND TRASH HAS ALSO BEEN

16:03:11 A PROBLEM.

16:03:12 TO KEEP THEM CLEAN.

16:03:15 CRIME PREVENTION DESIGN, IT DOESN'T MEAN MEET ANY OF THEM.

16:03:19 IN THE SENSE THAT CRIMINALS DON'T WANT TO BE OBSERVED.

16:03:22 THEY CAN HIDE IN THE ALLEYWAY.

16:03:23 IT'S DARK, OVERGROWN.

16:03:25 THERE'S NO ACCESS CONTROL IN TERMS OF PEOPLE HANGING OUT

16:03:29 THERE.

16:03:29 THERE'S NO LIGHTING.

16:03:30 THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT AND THERE'S REALLY NO MAINTENANCE AND

16:03:35 MANAGEMENT.

16:03:35 THERE'S NO LIGHTS.

16:03:36 IT'S OVERGROWN.

16:03:37 IT'S UNIMPROVED.

16:03:38 AND THOSE CONDITIONS --

16:03:41 SO REALLY IN SUMMARY THIS IS AN ALLEY TO NOWHERE, MOSTLY

16:03:45 UNIMPROVED.

16:03:46 THERE'S NO PATHWAY TO TRAVEL.

16:03:49 IN TERMS OF TEST OF TIME THERE'S IN A USE TO THE PUBLIC.

16:03:52 IT'S UNSAFE.

16:03:53 IT CREATES TRASH AND SAFETY ISSUES.

16:03:55 WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCILMEN, I APPRECIATE YOUR




16:03:59 CONSIDERATION.

16:03:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: QUESTIONS OF MR. PRESSMAN?

16:04:05 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

16:04:08 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.

16:04:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

16:04:10 >> RON WIGGINTON: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE ARE CERTAIN

16:04:15 CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD LIKE TO VOICE THEIR POSITION ON

16:04:17 THIS MATTER.

16:04:18 I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD JOINED US OR NOT.

16:04:29 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.

16:04:31 WE OBJECTED TO THE VACATING.

16:04:33 WE DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS A HARDSHIP DEMONSTRATED.

16:04:38 THERE DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A PUBLIC PURPOSE.

16:04:42 IT SEEMS LIKE THE NORTHEAST BUSINESS OWNER THERE IS USING IT

16:04:45 FOR ACCESS TO THEIR PROPERTY.

16:04:47 I KNOW THEY MENTIONED IT IN THEIR PRESENTATION BUT IT STILL

16:04:50 LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE USING TO GET INTO THEIR PROPERTY.

16:04:53 THAT WAS OUR MAIN OBJECTION.

16:04:54 >>TODD PRESSMAN: MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I RESPOND?

16:05:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BEFORE WE GO BACK

16:05:04 TO MR. PRESSMAN?

16:05:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME UNDERSTAND IT.

16:05:11 THERE'S NO NEED -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

16:05:17 AND I AM NOT TRYING TO BE HARD.

16:05:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STAFF?




16:05:30 MR. SCOTT?

16:05:31 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.

16:05:35 IT SEEMS LIKE THE BUSINESS OWNER NEEDS IT TO GET TO HIS

16:05:37 PROPERTY.

16:05:40 I THINK THE APPLICANT HAD MENTIONED IT, BUT MAYBE REACH OUT

16:05:45 TO THAT BUSINESS OWNER.

16:05:47 I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING.

16:05:47 >>TODD PRESSMAN: MAY I RESPOND?

16:05:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONE SECOND.

16:05:55 MR. MIRANDA WILL ASK STAFF.

16:06:00 ARE YOU SATISFIED, MR. MIRANDA?

16:06:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.

16:06:03 I AM NOT HERE TO BE SATISFIED.

16:06:04 [ LAUGHTER ]

16:06:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SCOTT, YOU ARE SAYING THAT STAFF IS

16:06:20 OBJECTING TO THE ALLEY BEING CLOSED BECAUSE YOU FEEL THAT

16:06:23 THE BUSINESS OWNER IS STILL USING IT, IS THAT CORRECT?

16:06:31 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: ANOTHER SIDE, ON THE EAST SIDE, THAT STILL

16:06:34 USING TO THE GET TO THEIR PROPERTY.

16:06:38 THEY HAVE TO USE THAT ALLEY TO GET INTO THE BACK OF THEIR

16:06:40 PROPERTY THEIR DOOR SWINGS INTO IT IN ORDER TO GET TO IT.

16:06:48 AND WE DIDN'T FEEL THERE WAS ANY HARDSHIP OR PUBLIC PURPOSE

16:06:52 TO VACATE IT.

16:06:53 THAT'S ALL.

16:06:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STAFF IS ASKING -- MR. CARLSON.




16:07:01 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. SCOTT, I THINK I UNDERSTOOD THE

16:07:05 HARDSHIP, BUT IS THERE A PUBLIC USE FOR IT RIGHT NOW OR DO

16:07:10 YOU THINK IT'S ONLY USED BY THAT BUSINESS?

16:07:15 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: AS FAR AS I KNOW IT'S USED BY THAT

16:07:17 BUSINESS.

16:07:18 >>BILL CARLSON: DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE BEEN DRIVEWAY ACCESS

16:07:20 OR ANYTHING TO THAT ALLEY?

16:07:27 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: NONE EXCEPT THIS ONE.

16:07:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. WIGGINTON ANYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE, SIR?

16:07:38 >>RON WIGGINTON: ALSO OTHER ADDITIONAL DEPARTMENTS

16:07:39 INCLUDING SOLID WASTE AND URBAN PLANNING DESIGN.

16:07:42 SO I AM NOT SURE IF THEY ARE ON THE LINE AS WELL OR NOT.

16:07:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.

16:07:47 IS THERE ANY OTHER STAFF ON HERE?

16:07:52 WE HAVE EVERYBODY HERE.

16:07:53 >> THIS IS ANDY MIKULSKI, URBAN DESIGN.

16:07:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

16:07:57 SWEAR HIM IN.

16:07:57 >>THE CLERK:

16:08:03 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

16:08:03 >> I DO.

16:08:10 SO TO ADDRESS THE URBAN DESIGN COMMENTS, THIS IS MORE FOR

16:08:14 DEVELOPMENT, SO THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY, WHEN THE SITE IS

16:08:21 REDEVELOPED, IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT PARKING BE TO THE REAR OR

16:08:24 THE SIDES OF THE PROPERTY, SO THIS ALLEY WAS IDEALLY IT




16:08:28 PROVIDES -- IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE

16:08:32 SITE, AND WOULD ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR MULTIPLE CURB CUTS ON

16:08:36 KENNEDY BOULEVARD, WHICH TIES INTO THE CITY'S VISION ZERO

16:08:41 POLICY.

16:08:41 SO IT'S IN EFFECT THE ALLEYWAY IS GOING TO PROVIDE KIND OF

16:08:46 THE FREE DRIVEWAY FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PARCEL.

16:08:49 SO THAT IS URBAN DESIGN'S OBJECTION, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT

16:08:54 FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT AND CAUSE WHOEVER -- IF IT IS VACATED

16:08:58 WHEN THOSE SITES ARE REDEVELOPMENT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A

16:09:00 LOT MORE -- EACH SITE IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE

16:09:04 VEHICLE CIRCULATION OF PARKING WHICH IS GOING TO EAT UP A

16:09:07 LOT OF THE REDEVELOPABLE POTENTIAL FOR EACH PARCEL.

16:09:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

16:09:17 ALL RIGHT.

16:09:17 ANYBODY ELSE FROM STAFF TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

16:09:21 ANYBODY FROM STAFF TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

16:09:28 SEEING NO, WE WILL GO BACK TO MR. PRESSMAN FOR REBUTTAL.

16:09:31 >>TODD PRESSMAN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

16:09:33 I'M NOT SURE, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO STAFF, YOU CAN SEE

16:09:36 FROM THE PICTURES, THIS ALLEYWAY IS BARELY WIDER THAN A CAR.

16:09:41 SO AS THEY INDICATED, IT WOULD PROVIDE PARKING FOR THIS

16:09:46 PARCEL, BUT TO CLARIFY, IT DOES NOT REQUIRE TO ACCESS THE

16:09:50 PARCEL.

16:09:50 THEY WANT ACCESS ALL AROUND KENNEDY AND ON THE SIDE STREETS.

16:09:55 SO WHEN STAFF TALKS ABOUT VEHICULAR MOVEMENTS THROUGH THIS




16:09:59 ALLEYWAY, AND PARKING FOR THIS PROPERTY, THOSE TWO ARE

16:10:06 IMPOSSIBILITIES AS THEY ADDRESS EACH OTHER.

16:10:09 AGAIN TO CLARIFY, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS PLENTY OF ACCESS.

16:10:14 THIS IS NOT THE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.

16:10:15 THERE'S A DOOR BEHIND, BUT THE MAIN ACCESS IS ON THE SIDE

16:10:19 STREET.

16:10:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

16:10:28 ROSS?

16:10:29 >>ROSS SAMMONS: I WOULD LIKE TO TOUCH ON THAT POINT THAT

16:10:31 MR. PRESSMAN MADE ABOUT CURRENTLY IT'S AS WIDE AS A CAR.

16:10:37 TECHNICALLY IT'S PLATTED, IT'S 15 FEET WIDE.

16:10:40 SO TECHNICALLY IN THE FUTURE IF SOMETHING WAS DEVELOPED

16:10:43 THERE TO MR. MIKULSKI'S POINT, THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE THE

16:10:49 OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE PAVE THAT AND IT WOULD BE 15 FEET IN

16:10:55 THE FUTURE.

16:10:56 BUT CURRENTLY, YES, MR. PRESSMAN IS RIGHT.

16:11:00 BUT TO MR. MIKULSKI'S POINT, IT IS ACTUALLY 15 FEET.

16:11:07 >>TODD PRESSMAN: THAT'S STILL NEGATED BY SAYING THE PURPOSE

16:11:11 WOULD BE PARKING FOR A PARKING LOT.

16:11:14 NO ONE HAS SOUGHT TO USE IT SINCE THE AERIAL IN 2000.

16:11:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

16:11:20 >> JUST TO CLARIFY, IT'S NOT THAT WE WOULD -- IF SOMEONE

16:11:26 WERE TO REDEVELOP THIS PARCEL THAT THEY WOULD PARK IN THE

16:11:28 ALLEY BUT THEIR PARKING LOT WOULD BE ACCESSED ON THE ALLEY.

16:11:32 AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE RUNNING INTO ESPECIALLY IN




16:11:36 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ALONG THE FLORIDA AND TAMPA CORRIDORS.

16:11:40 WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE WALKABLE, BUT IT'S REALLY

16:11:43 IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE ARE NO ALLEYS, SO WE HAVE TO GET

16:11:48 ACCESS, VEHICULAR ACCESS IN THE FORM OF CURB CUTS ALONG THE

16:11:53 CORRIDORS, WHICH REALLY KILLS WALKABILITY.

16:11:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

16:11:59 ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF?

16:12:01 >>TODD PRESSMAN: THE SIDEWALK ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD, 25 FEET

16:12:07 FROM THE ALLEYWAY.

16:12:13 NO DISRESPECT TO THE CITY STAFF.

16:12:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?

16:12:18 MOVE TO CLOSE BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY VIERA.

16:12:21 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:12:22 ANY OPPOSED?

16:12:24 MOTION CARRIES.

16:12:24 >> FILE VAC 21-18.

16:12:35 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,

16:12:37 AN ORDINANCE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING,

16:12:39 DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING A RIGHT-OF-WAY ALLEYWAY LOCATED

16:12:44 SOUTH OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD, NORTH OF CLEVELAND STREET, EAST

16:12:47 OF HESPERIDES STREET, AND WEST OF LAUBER WAY WITHIN THE PLAT

16:12:53 OF ROSEMONT SUBDIVISION, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,

16:12:57 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN

16:13:00 SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS

16:13:03 AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN




16:13:07 PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,

16:13:11 PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING

16:13:14 CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN

16:13:17 EFFECTIVE DATE.

16:13:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.

16:13:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.

16:13:20 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

16:13:21 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

16:13:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

16:13:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

16:13:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

16:13:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

16:13:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

16:13:29 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

16:13:31 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 7th,

16:13:35 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.

16:13:37 >>TODD PRESSMAN: THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS.

16:13:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 70.

16:13:44 LAST ONE TODAY.

16:13:46 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

16:13:52 ITEM NUMBER 70 IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW THAT WAS FILED

16:13:56 REGARDING AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD HEARING FOR THE

16:14:02 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 714 SOUTH BOULEVARD.

16:14:05 THE CASE NUMBER IS ARC-21-557.

16:14:10 THE PROPERTY OWNER ASKED THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION




16:14:15 TO APPROVE A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK FROM

16:14:19 20 FEET TO 16 FEET WITH 3 FEET FOR EAVES AND GUTTERS.

16:14:23 THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION HEARD THE REQUEST ON

16:14:28 DECEMBER 9th OF 2021 AND DENIED THE VARIANCE REQUEST. BY

16:14:32 THE PROPERTY OWNER BASED UPON THE PROPERTY OWNER NOT MEETING

16:14:35 THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA AS SET FORTH IN CODE SECTION 27-114,

16:14:41 SPECIFICALLY SUBSECTIONS 1 AND 5 OF THAT CODE SECTION.

16:14:46 CITY COUNCIL WAS RECENTLY PROVIDED THE RELEVANT CODE

16:14:49 SECTIONS WHICH IS CODE SECTION 27-414.

16:14:53 THE RULES OF PROCEDURE AND SAMPLE MOTIONS REGARDING THIS

16:14:57 PARTICULAR ITEM.

16:15:00 THE STANDARD OF REVIEW ACCORDING TO CODE SECTION 27-61

16:15:04 SUBSECTION G-2 IS A DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW MEANING CITY

16:15:09 COUNCIL CAN TAKE TESTIMONY, RECEIVE NEW EVIDENCE, AND MAKE A

16:15:14 DECISION TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE PETITIONER HAS MET

16:15:18 THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA THAT'S SET FORTH IN CODE SECTION

16:15:22 27-114.

16:15:25 MR. VILA WITH STAFF WILL GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATION

16:15:30 REQUEST BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AND

16:15:33 EXPLAIN FURTHER THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA THAT I PREVIOUSLY

16:15:38 PROVIDED, AND THAT'S GAIN SIX ITEMS THAT THE SIX SUBSECTIONS

16:15:45 THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER MUST MEET FOR THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA.

16:15:48 AFTER TAKING THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND RECEIVING ANY EVIDENCE

16:15:52 REGARDING THIS ITEM, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE THREE ACTIONS,

16:15:56 HAS THREE OPTIONS REGARDING THIS PETITION FOR REVIEW.




16:15:59 CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW DECISION

16:16:04 AND DENY THE VARIANCE REQUESTED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, CITY

16:16:08 COUNCIL CAN REMAND THE ITEM BACK TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW

16:16:10 COMMISSION WITH SPECIFIC DIRECTION FOR THE BOARD TO

16:16:14 CONSIDER, OR LASTLY, CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION

16:16:19 FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AND THEREBY GRANT

16:16:24 THE VARIANCE REQUESTED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER.

16:16:28 AT THIS TIME, I WILL TURN --

16:16:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.

16:16:32 I'M SO SORRY.

16:16:33 FORGIVE ME FOR INTERRUPTING BUT BEFORE YOU TURN IT OVER TO

16:16:35 MR. VILA, JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL, THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY

16:16:39 EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS RELEVANT TO THIS THAT YOU DISCLOSE

16:16:42 THAT AT THIS TIME, AND ALSO WITH REGARD TO ANY WRITTEN

16:16:46 DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED, IF WE COULD HAVE A MOTION

16:16:48 TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

16:16:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

16:16:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

16:16:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY VIERA.

16:16:56 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:16:58 OPPOSED?

16:16:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY APOLOGIES.

16:17:00 THANK YOU.

16:17:00 >>RON VILA: STAFF OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

16:17:07 AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN.




16:17:09 CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN AT THIS TIME, PLEASE?

16:17:25 IS MY SCREEN AVAILABLE, EVERYBODY?

16:17:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S BEING BLOWN UP FOR US RIGHT NOW.

16:17:33 WE GOT IT.

16:17:34 >>RON VILA: THANK YOU, SIR.

16:17:35 TO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME BACKGROUND AND SOME INFORMATION

16:17:37 MOVING FORWARD, I AM GOING TO GO THROUGH A BRIEF PHOTO

16:17:40 PRESENTATION.

16:17:41 THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS HIGHLIGHTED IN THIS GREEN

16:17:44 PARCEL.

16:17:46 THE ADDRESS IS 714 SOUTH BOULEVARD WHICH FRONTS TO THE

16:17:51 NORTH, YOU HAVE SWANN AS A CROSS STREET, YOU HAVE BAYSHORE

16:17:54 BOULEVARD TO THE EAST, AND TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN TO THE

16:17:57 SOUTH INMAN.

16:17:59 THERE IS A 16-FOOT ALLEY RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH BEHIND THE

16:18:02 SUBJECT SITE.

16:18:04 IF YOU LOOK AT THIS BLOCK, THIS IS ON THE SANBORN MAP FROM

16:18:08 1929 SHOWING THE FABRIC AND THE LAYOUT OF THE STRUCTURES IN

16:18:11 THE EARLY 1900S, YOU SEE THE DEPTH OF THE PARCELS HERE.

16:18:16 THEY ARE ALL CONSISTENT WITHIN THIS BLOCK WITH THE SUBJECT

16:18:21 SITE WITHIN THIS SLOT.

16:18:26 THE NEXT IS AN AERIAL.

16:18:27 I WANT TO PROVIDE YOU WITH POINT OF REFERENCE.

16:18:31 PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE GREEN BOX.

16:18:34 ONCE AGAIN THIS IS ON SOUTH BOULEVARD.




16:18:36 IT'S JUST TO THE SOUTH OF SWANN.

16:18:38 AS YOU COME DOWN BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, YOU GET INTO HYDE PARK,

16:18:42 INTO HYDE PARK VILLAGE DOWN SWANN, AND YOU HEAD SOUTH ON

16:18:47 BOULEVARD, AND THEN THE CROSS STREET TO THE SOUTH.

16:18:50 TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, THIS IS THE

16:18:53 FRONT ELEVATION OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

16:18:58 LOOKING AT THE FRONT ELEVATION, AND THE NORTH ELEVATION.

16:19:03 AND THEN LOOKING DOWN THE VEHICULAR CORRIDOR, THAT DEAD-ENDS

16:19:07 TO AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

16:19:09 THE ABUTTING STRUCTURE TO THE NORTH IS AN INTERVENING

16:19:17 STRUCTURE.

16:19:17 GOING BACK TO THE SUBJECT SITE, THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION

16:19:20 WITH ALL THE VEGETATION THAT IS THERE, THE PROPERTY TO THE

16:19:23 SOUTH, ABUTTING IS THIS ONE-STORY STRUCTURE.

16:19:30 LOOKING DOWN SOUTH BOULEVARD TOWARDS BAYSHORE, THEN IN THE

16:19:37 OTHER DIRECTION LOOKING BACK TOWARDS SWANN.

16:19:42 THIS IS THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.

16:19:47 FOCUSING ON THE STRUCTURE AND THE PARCEL IN QUESTION.

16:19:51 THIS IS THE REAR OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

16:19:55 CURRENTLY THEY HAVE ANN ARBOR IN THE BACK THAT IS ABOUT

16:19:59 60-FOOT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

16:20:01 VERTICAL ASPECT OF IT, AND THEN IT HAS THESE CASCADING

16:20:05 STAIRS THAT WRAP AROUND.

16:20:07 THIS WILL COME UP IN A FUTURE DISCUSSION.

16:20:10 I WANTED TO SHARE THESE PICTURES WITH YOU.




16:20:13 THIS IS CURRENTLY THE REAR ELEVATION, THAT HAS THIS VERTICAL

16:20:16 ARBOR.

16:20:17 OPEN TO THE AIR, ALL SIDES.

16:20:23 AND THE CURRENT REAR YARD WITH THE ARBOR.

16:20:28 THAT CONCLUDES THE PHOTO PRESENTATION.

16:20:31 GOING INTO THE APPLICATION ITSELF.

16:20:36 THE APPLICATION CAME INTO THE OFFICE WITH AN ADDITION TO A

16:20:40 ONE-STORY PORCH, AND ENLARGED KITCHEN ON THE REAR OF THE

16:20:45 PROPERTY, WITH A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD FROM

16:20:49 20-FOOT TO 16-FOOT.

16:20:53 AS PART OF THE VARIANCE HARDSHIP CRITERIA MOVING FORWARD,

16:20:56 THERE ARE SIX CRITERIA THAT ARE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS

16:21:00 THAT HAVE TO BE ADHERED TO.

16:21:03 WHEN I READ THE MOTION FOR DENIAL, ITEM NUMBER 1 AND ITEM

16:21:09 NUMBER 5, WAS THE CONDITION THAT THE BOARD FELT THAT WAS NOT

16:21:14 MET AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

16:21:21 THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE

16:21:23 PLAN.

16:21:24 THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN.

16:21:25 THIS IS THE FRONT STREET WHICH IS BOULEVARD.

16:21:29 EVERYTHING THAT'S UNDER YOUR REVIEW IS IN THE BACK.

16:21:33 SO THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITION.

16:21:35 THIS IS THE ARBOR THAT SHOWS THE HATCH LINE IN HERE.

16:21:40 THIS IS THE CASCADING STAIRS THAT WRAP AROUND THE ARBOR.

16:21:43 THE CURRENT SETBACK IS 15-FOOT 9 INCHES.




16:21:48 STAFF TRIED TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO YOU.

16:21:52 WE FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT THIS WAS APPROVED THROUGH THE ARC

16:21:58 OR THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

16:22:00 THEN THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

16:22:03 THIS IS SHOWING THE ADDITION.

16:22:06 IN THIS LOCATION.

16:22:07 PART OF IT IS IN ADDITION FOR AN ENCLOSED ADDITION TO THE

16:22:13 DINING ROOM AND KITCHEN.

16:22:14 AND THIS IS A COVERED SCREENED-IN AREA HERE.

16:22:19 THE VARIANCE REQUEST. IS IN THIS SECTION HERE.

16:22:22 REDUCTION FROM CODE STANDARD TO THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION

16:22:26 WHICH IS 20-FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK TO 16-FOOT, WHICH IS

16:22:32 ILLUSTRATED BY THIS DIMENSION LINE, WITH AN ENCROACHMENT OF

16:22:36 3-FOOT FOR EAVES AND GUTTERS.

16:22:38 THERE IS NO VARIANCE REQUEST. FOR THE SIDE YARD SO THIS IS

16:22:41 THE REAR YARD HERE.

16:22:43 THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE REDOING THIS AFTERNOON.

16:22:49 THIS WAS THE MOTION FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT THE

16:22:51 ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION REVIEWED THE REFERENCED

16:22:55 APPLICATION AT ITS MEETING ON DECEMBER 8, 2021.

16:22:58 THE ARC VOTED TO DENY THE VARIANCE REQUEST. FOR THE REAR

16:23:01 YARD SETBACK FROM 20-FOOT TO 16-FOOT WITH AN ENCROACHMENT

16:23:06 FOR 3-FOOT FOR EAVES AND GUTTERS, WITH THE ONE CAVEAT THAT I

16:23:10 SPOKE ABOUT, THE CONDITION WAS THAT IT DIDN'T MEET THE

16:23:14 HARDSHIP CRITERIA FOR ITEMS NUMBER 1 AND ITEM NUMBER 5 ON




16:23:18 THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA INFORMATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED.

16:23:22 THAT WAS A 3-1 VOTE, AND THAT CONCLUDE MY PORTION AT THIS

16:23:27 TIME, AND I WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

16:23:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. VILA?

16:23:35 ALL RIGHT.

16:23:35 THE APPLICANT?

16:23:36 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M HERE REPRESENTING ANNA BERNUS.

16:23:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SWEAR MR. MICHELINI.

16:23:49 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

16:23:50 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I DO.

16:23:58 THE BOARD LOOKED AT THIS, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION

16:24:01 REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST.

16:24:05 AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH A FEW PARAGRAPHS FOR YOU.

16:24:11 SO IT'S NOT JUST A HARDSHIP BUT IT ALSO SAYS PRACTICAL

16:24:14 DIFFICULTIES.

16:24:16 AND THE PROPERTY AND THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH EXISTING

16:24:19 STRUCTURE.

16:24:20 I THINK THAT THE STAFF POINTED OUT TO YOU THAT THERE'S AN

16:24:23 EXISTING ARBOR, 15 FEET, 9 INCHES, FROM PROPERTY LINE.

16:24:37 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE, AND WE HAVE SUPPORT LETTERS

16:24:41 FROM THIS PROPERTY OWNER HERE TO THE NORTH, THIS PROPERTY

16:24:45 OWNER HERE, ADJACENT TO THE EAST, THIS PROPERTY OWNER HERE

16:24:49 WHO IS ADJACENT TO THE WEST.

16:24:51 AND I WILL BE GOING THROUGH THIS.

16:24:57 THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.




16:24:59 AGAIN OUTLINED HERE AND THE SUPPORTING LETTER.

16:25:06 THESE LOTS ARE ONLY 99 FEET DEEP FOR THIS ENTIRE BLOCK.

16:25:09 IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT, AND YOU WILL LOOK AT THESE

16:25:12 DIMENSIONS HERE, 127 FEET, 155 FEET DEEP, 127 FEET DEEP.

16:25:24 THE ALLEY AND THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY HERE ARE ONLY 50 FEET.

16:25:28 THE ALLEY -- I MEAN THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY HERE IS 60 FEET.

16:25:31 SO THIS PROPERTY IS ESSENTIALLY LOST THE ABILITY TO HAVE A

16:25:37 DEEPER LOT AND ALSO TO HAVE THE SETBACK THAT'S BEING

16:25:42 PROPOSED, WHICH IS A FOOT OFF THE OVERALL DIMENSION OF THE

16:25:48 PROPERTY, PLUS THE DIMENSIONS OF THIS WHOLE BLOCK ARE

16:25:51 SMALLER THAN THE OTHER ONE.

16:25:55 SO WHEN YOU START GOING THROUGH THE HARDSHIP AND IT SAYS

16:25:58 PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES AS WELL, THEY DIDN'T ESTABLISH THESE

16:26:01 LOTS OR THE DIMENSIONS OF THESE LOTS.

16:26:04 THEIR HOUSE IS AN EXISTING HOUSE.

16:26:05 THEY ARE NOT GOING TO PICK UP THE HOUSE AND TRY TO MOVE TO

16:26:08 THE MEET ANOTHER CRITERIA FOR SETBACK.

16:26:11 AND WHEN THE BOARD TALKED ABOUT NOT MEETING THE PRACTICAL

16:26:14 DIFFICULTIES, OR THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA, THEY FAILED TO

16:26:17 RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT THIS ENTIRE BLOCK WAS NOT EVEN

16:26:23 SUBSTANDARD.

16:26:25 TO MEET THE EXISTING CODE REGARDING ZONING.

16:26:27 IT'S A NONCONFORMING LOT AS ALL OF THOSE LOTS ARE ON THAT

16:26:31 PROPERTY.

16:26:32 WE WENT THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION.




16:26:36 WE PROVIDED TO THEM THIS PHOTOGRAPH, WHICH IS THE EXISTING

16:26:50 ARBOR ON THE BACK, WHICH SITS AT 15 FEET 9 INCHES FROM THE

16:26:54 REAR PROPERTY LINE.

16:26:56 AND GRANTED, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF CAN'T FIND A PERMIT FOR

16:27:00 THIS, HOWEVER, THE COMPANY OWNERS DIDN'T BUILD THIS.

16:27:04 THEY ARE REQUESTING TO REBUILD THIS AND MAKE IT COMPATIBLE

16:27:07 WITH THE EXISTING DESIGN OF THE BUILDING.

16:27:10 THIS IS A SIDE VIEW.

16:27:12 THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE SHOWING AS EXISTING AND THIS IS WHAT'S

16:27:16 BEING PROPOSED WHICH WILL BE A PERMANENT ROOF ON, AND TO

16:27:19 MAKE IT COMPATIBLE WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE HOUSE.

16:27:23 THERE'S A COUPLE MORE PHOTOGRAPHS SHOWING YOU THE EXTENT TO

16:27:29 WHICH -- THIS IS AN EXTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT HERE IN TERMS OF

16:27:33 AN ADDITION, AND I AM NOT REALLY SURE HOW IT WOULD ADVERSELY

16:27:38 AFFECT ANYONE ELSE.

16:27:39 THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER CRITERIA. IT WASN'T CREATED BY THIS

16:27:43 APPLICANT.

16:27:43 IT DOESN'T INTERFERE, ADVERSELY AFFECT ANYONE ELSE.

16:27:46 THE CONDITION EXISTS ALREADY AT 15-9.

16:27:50 WE ARE ASKING IT TO BE REDUCED FROM 20 FEET TO 16 FEET.

16:27:53 THE VARIANCE IS IN HARMONY WITH THE DESIGNATED AND

16:27:58 ACCOMMODATE THE UNUSUAL CONDITIONS OF THE PROPERTY.

16:28:00 WE ARE ESSENTIALLY -- WE ARE HINDERED BY PROPERTY.

16:28:08 THIS ONE TO THE -- IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH WHICH IS A ZERO

16:28:13 LOT LINE.




16:28:14 THIS ONE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM US WHICH IS RIGHT ON THE

16:28:17 ALLEY.

16:28:19 AND ANOTHER ONE.

16:28:23 THEY ARE ALL INSIDE OF THOSE OTHER BUILDINGS.

16:28:25 WE ARE NOT CREATING ANY KIND OF ADVERSE EFFECT TO ANYONE

16:28:29 ELSE.

16:28:33 THERE'S ANOTHER ONE.

16:28:43 WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THE ADJACENT STRUCTURES, WE HAVE A

16:28:51 DIAGRAM WE ARE SHOWING YOU.

16:29:22 I APOLOGIZE TO YOU.

16:29:53 THIS IS THE EXISTING IMPACT HERE.

16:29:55 THIS IS WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED TO ENCLOSE THIS AREA SO IT

16:29:58 LOOKS LIKE THAT.

16:30:09 HERE IS THE DIAGRAM SHOWING YOU WHAT THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES

16:30:12 LOOK LIKE, BACK TO THEIR SETBACKS, AND THE EXISTING

16:30:17 STRUCTURE, WHICH IS HERE.

16:30:26 THIS IS EXISTING PROPERTY HERE.

16:30:44 THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH WHICH IS

16:30:47 718.

16:30:47 THIS IS 710.

16:30:49 SHOWING YOU WHAT THEY HAVE HERE.

16:30:51 713.

16:30:53 ZERO LOT LINE ON THE ALLEY.

16:30:54 ALMOST ZERO.

16:30:56 THIS IS PROBABLY ABOUT A FOOT OFF THE ALLEY HERE.




16:31:00 709.

16:31:01 AND I WOULD LIKE TO ENTER FOR THE RECORD THE THREE PROPERTY

16:31:04 OWNERS SUPPORTING LETTERS FROM 718, 710 AND 711.

16:31:10 711 FIELDING, 710 SOUTH BOULEVARD AND 718 SOUTH BOULEVARD.

16:31:15 I AM JUST GOING TO READ THIS INTO THE RECORD FOR YOU.

16:31:20 WE RESIDE AT 710 SOUTH BOULEVARD WHICH SUPPORTS THE REVIEW

16:31:24 REQUEST REGARDING THEIR HOME AT 714.

16:31:28 WE REVIEWED THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN FOR THE BUILDER AND ARE

16:31:31 AWARE THAT THE REQUEST TO SETBACK RELIEF FROM 20 TO 16 FEET.

16:31:34 WE SUPPORT THE REQUEST FOR THIS REASONABLE LIMITED EXCEPTION

16:31:38 WHICH IS WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S PURVIEW TO GRANT.

16:31:41 IN LIGHT OF THE SIZE, POSITIONING, CHARACTER OF THE HOME WE

16:31:44 BELIEVE THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS REASONABLE AND

16:31:46 APPROPRIATE.

16:31:47 WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THEIR REQUESTS OR DESIGN IS OUT OF

16:31:50 CHARACTER WITH HYDE PARK, AND TO THAT POINT WE STILL HAVE TO

16:31:54 MOVE THE HYDE PARK DESIGN DEVELOPMENT GUIDELINES.

16:31:57 SPECIFICALLY, MANY OF THE HOMES AS WELL AS THOSE ADJACENT

16:32:01 ALREADY EXIST WITH STRUCTURES WHICH HAVE SERVICE ALLEY WHICH

16:32:05 ARE CLOSER.

16:32:06 OUR ENTIRE PROPERTY ABUTS ENTIRE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THEIR

16:32:09 PROPERTY, AND AS OWNERS WE WOULD BE THE ONES IMPACTED.

16:32:13 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD NOT

16:32:16 BE IN OPPOSITION TO OUR RIGHTS.

16:32:19 CONTRARY IT WOULD ENHANCE THE HISTORIC LOOK OF THE REAR AND




16:32:22 WOULD PROVIDE NEEDED PRIVACY FOR THEM AT THEIR HOUSE.

16:32:26 THAT WAS FROM 710 SOUTH BOULEVARD.

16:32:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MICHELINI, ARE YOU WILLING TO PUT

16:32:32 THOSE LETTERS INTO THE RECORD?

16:32:34 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I AM GOING TO HAND THEM TO YOU TO PUT

16:32:36 INTO THE RECORD.

16:32:37 THE PROPERTY OWNER AT 7 ST. LOUIS PROVIDING SUPPORT AGAIN.

16:32:40 I AM JUST PAR A RAISING, AND 711 SOUTH FIELDING, AND ONE OF

16:32:44 THE THINGS THAT IS NOTED ON THE LETTER FROM 711 FIELDING IS

16:32:49 THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL IS AN ARCHITECT AND MEMBER OF THE

16:32:51 HISTORIC -- HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HISTORIC GRANT COMMITTEE.

16:32:55 AND THEY ARE WELL AWARE OF THE GUIDELINES AND WHAT WOULD

16:32:58 HAPPEN WITH THESE VARIOUS PROPOSALS.

16:33:01 WE HAVE MET THE INTENT OF WHAT THE CODE SAYS YOU HAVE TO

16:33:04 MEET IN TERMS OF PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES AND HARDSHIP.

16:33:07 I HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU ABOUT THE LOT.

16:33:10 IT'S A NONCONFORMING LOT.

16:33:12 THEY HAVE AN EXISTING STRUCTURE.

16:33:15 IT ALREADY IS AT 15 FEET 9 INCHES.

16:33:18 AND I BELIEVE THAT THE REQUEST TO CONVERT THIS AND MAKE IT

16:33:22 HISTORICALLY COMPATIBLE IN MEETING THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION

16:33:25 GUIDELINES AND DESIGN IS AN APPROPRIATE AND RESPECTFUL

16:33:28 REQUEST TO THIS BOARD TO OVERTURN THE ARC.

16:33:33 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU OVERTURN THAT DENIAL.

16:33:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.




16:33:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

16:33:41 SO YOU ESSENTIALLY ARE RIGHTING A WRONG, MEANING WHAT'S

16:33:45 EXISTING NOW ON THE BACK PATIO, YOU SAID THEY COULD NOT FIND

16:33:49 A PERMIT FOR, SO WE ARE ASSUMING IT WAS BUILT WITHOUT A

16:33:51 PERMIT, CORRECT?

16:33:53 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I DON'T KNOW.

16:33:54 THAT'S WHAT MR. VILA SAID.

16:33:56 THAT THEY LOOKED FOR A PERMIT.

16:33:58 BUT IT'S OLD.

16:33:59 IT'S NOT A NEW CONSTRUCTION.

16:34:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO KNOWS, THE HOUSE MUST BE 1930s, I

16:34:05 WOULD ASSUME.

16:34:05 IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANYTIME IN THAT.

16:34:09 >> FROM THE 20s ON.

16:34:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WHAT YOU PLAN TO REPLACE IT WITH IS

16:34:15 AN ENCLOSED ONE-STORY DESIGN, BASICALLY ADDING AN ADDITIONAL

16:34:18 ROOM, AND OF COURSE IT WOULD MATCH THE REST OF THE HOUSE.

16:34:24 SO IT WOULDN'T DISTURB THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY.

16:34:28 >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO.

16:34:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND YOU ARE ASKING FOR 20 FEET TO 16

16:34:31 FEET.

16:34:32 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.

16:34:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND LOOKING AT 713, 711, EVEN 709 --

16:34:40 718 TO 710, THEY ARE RIGHT UP TO THE ALLEY.

16:34:44 THEY ARE RIGHT UP TO -- YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A LOT OF




16:34:49 HEADACHE FOR SOMETHING REALLY SO MINOR.

16:34:52 IT'S NOT AFFECTING THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER OF

16:34:55 THE SURROUNDING PARCELS.

16:34:59 I MEAN, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS, BUT I DON'T SEE

16:35:02 AN ISSUE WITH THIS.

16:35:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON?

16:35:07 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. MICHELINI, DID THE APPLICANT OR THE

16:35:12 OWNER -- I'M SORRY, I'M TIRED -- DID THE OWNER HAVE BENEFIT

16:35:16 OF YOUR EXPERTISE IN PRESENTING ARKS, AND ARE THERE ANY NEW

16:35:23 ARGUMENTS THAT YOU HAVE NOW THAT YOU WISH YOU HAD MADE AT

16:35:25 THAT MEETING?

16:35:28 >>STEVE MICHELINI: WELL, WHAT I DID PULL THAT'S DIFFERENT

16:35:31 IS PLATTING THE ADJACENT BLOCKS, THEY ARE MUCH LARGER.

16:35:35 WE STATED IT ON THE RECORD.

16:35:36 AND THEN THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP THAT WE DIDN'T

16:35:39 HAVE THE VERIFICATION ON REGARDING THESE PROPERTIES, AND

16:35:45 WHEN DID THEY ENCROACH AND BUILD BACK TO THE ALLEYWAY.

16:35:50 AND THEN THERE WAS AN ASSERTION THAT THESE WEREN'T REALLY

16:35:55 OCCUPIED SPACES, SO WE WENT BACK AND THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE

16:35:58 THOSE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, AND WE MADE SURE THAT THEY KNEW

16:36:03 EXACTLY WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED, AND THEY VERIFIED THAT

16:36:07 THEIR PROPERTIES WERE PROBABLY MORE -- NOT OUT OF CHARACTER,

16:36:13 BUT THEY ENCROACHED MORE THAN THE REQUEST THAT WAS BEING

16:36:16 PROVIDED TO THE ARC.

16:36:22 DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?




16:36:23 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, THANK YOU.

16:36:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. MICHELINI?

16:36:28 ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

16:36:29 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.

16:36:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO REGISTERED.

16:36:34 MOVE TO CLOSE BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY CITRO.

16:36:36 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:36:38 MOTION GRANTED.

16:36:38 ALL RIGHT, MR. MANISCALCO.

16:36:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

16:36:41 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE OVERTURN THE ARC'S

16:36:46 DECISION AND HEREBY GRANT THE VARIANCE ARC-21-557 FOR THE

16:36:53 PROPERTY AT 714 SOUTH BOULEVARD BECAUSE THE PETITION DOES

16:36:55 MEET THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-114.

16:37:01 WHEN I DID ASK QUESTIONS A FEW MINUTES AGO TO THE APPLICANT,

16:37:07 HE DOES HAVE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.

16:37:09 I DON'T THINK IT WOULD AFFECT THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE

16:37:14 NEIGHBORHOOD.

16:37:15 I THINK IT REALLY DOES MATCH AT LEAST THREE OUT OF THE FOUR,

16:37:20 FOUR OF THE FIVE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, AND IT'S A MINOR

16:37:23 REQUEST.

16:37:24 THEY ARE TAKING OUT THE OUTDOOR PATIO, AND CREATING AN

16:37:29 ENCLOSED STRUCTURE THAT WOULD MATCH THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE

16:37:33 OF THE HOUSE.

16:37:34 THEREFORE, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU WOULD THINK IT'S PART OF




16:37:38 THE ORIGINAL HISTORIC STRUCTURE.

16:37:40 THAT'S MY MOTION.

16:37:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA.

16:37:44 ROLL CALL.

16:37:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

16:37:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

16:37:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

16:37:49 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

16:37:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

16:37:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

16:37:52 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

16:37:53 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.

16:37:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

16:37:57 WE ARE DO THAT HOUR, GENTLEMEN.

16:37:58 THAT HOUR.

16:38:07 AND A WALK-ON.

16:38:10 OKAY.

16:38:41 MA'AM, DO YOU HAVE AN ITEM?

16:38:44 >> [OFF MICROPHONE] SOMETHING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS

16:39:04 MORNING.

16:39:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

16:39:11 WE'LL TAKE MR. MIRANDA FIRST.

16:39:14 (MOTION CARRIED)

16:39:17 RESOLUTION IS ONE THAT RESOLUTION FROM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL,

16:39:20 THE CITY, CALLING UPON THE UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF




16:39:23 INTERIOR TO RECOGNIZE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF ROBERTO

16:39:27 CLEMENTE'S PASSING TO NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES

16:39:35 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

16:39:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.

16:39:39 A ROLL CALL?

16:39:41 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:39:42 OPPOSED?

16:39:43 MOTION GRANTED.

16:39:45 ALL RIGHT.

16:39:46 WE GO TO THE SECOND WALK-ON.

16:39:48 AND MADAM CLERK.

16:39:50 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: CITY CLERK.

16:40:05 HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENT POLICY AND

16:40:12 PROCEDURES GUIDELINES FOR FILLING THE VACANCY IN DISTRICT 3

16:40:17 AT-LARGE, EXISTING ON MARCH 14th, 2022.

16:40:24 WE WANT TO GO OVER THE SELECTION PROCESS, GET YOU TO APPROVE

16:40:34 THE PROCESS, APPROVE THE TIMELINE, AND THE APPLICATION.

16:40:38 THAT'S TODAY.

16:40:40 AND I WILL JUST BRIEFLY GO OVER THE TIMELINE.

16:40:48 ONCE YOU APPROVE THAT TODAY, ON MONDAY, AT NOON, WE WANT TO

16:40:54 HAVE THE APPLICATION FORM AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

16:41:02 ALSO INCLUDE AN INVITATION TO THOSE THAT COMPLETE THE

16:41:07 APPLICATION TO APPEAR ON APRIL 4th AT 9:00 A.M.

16:41:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APRIL 5th?

16:41:22 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: APRIL 5th.




16:41:23 I STAND CORRECTED.

16:41:24 AT 9:00 A.M.

16:41:26 AND THAT'S ON MARCH 21st AT NOON, THE APPLICATION AND

16:41:30 THE INVITATION.

16:41:34 THEY WILL HAVE TEN DAYS TO COMPLETE THE APPLICATION WHICH

16:41:39 WILL BE DUE ON MARCH 31st, WHICH IS THURSDAY AT 5 P.M.,

16:41:47 EITHER IN ELECTRONIC FORM OR IN PERSON.

16:41:53 ON FRIDAY, APRIL 1st, THE COMPILED APPLICATIONS WILL BE

16:41:59 DISTRIBUTED TO YOU, COUNCIL.

16:42:03 THEN ON TUESDAY, APRIL 5th, INDIVIDUALS WILL BE GRANTED

16:42:10 A TWO-MINUTE PRESENTATION.

16:42:14 AND FOLLOWING THAT, THE SELECTION WILL BE BY BALLOT.

16:42:22 AND THEN THERE'S A RESOLUTION THAT WILL BE PASSED.

16:42:26 THAT'S ON APRIL 5th.

16:42:28 AND ON APRIL 7th, WHICH IS D-DAY, THE NEW COUNCILMEMBER

16:42:34 WILL BE ADMINISTERED THEIR OATH OF OFFICE, AND THEY WILL

16:42:38 TAKE THEIR SEAT.

16:42:41 HIS OR HER SEAT.

16:42:44 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO TAKE

16:42:49 PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE 5th OR NOT?

16:42:52 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: YES, THEY WILL MAKE A VOTE AS FAR

16:43:00 AS PUBLIC COMMENT.

16:43:00 >> NOT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

16:43:00 >> NOT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

16:43:00 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD MAKE THAT EXPLICIT




16:43:07 SO PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANY EXPECTATION THAT THERE WILL BE

16:43:08 PUBLIC COMMENT.

16:43:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, I WILL CONFIRM THAT.

16:43:14 >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE IF A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SHOW UP

16:43:16 EXPECTING TO SPEAK THEY WILL NOT BE HAPPY.

16:43:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING FOR THE

16:43:22 TWO-MINUTE INTERVIEWS.

16:43:24 AND SO I CAN PUT THAT ON THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING, THERE

16:43:32 WILL BE NO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

16:43:34 AS I RECALL, MS. FOXX-KNOWLES, THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE.

16:43:39 >>BILL CARLSON: WELL, IF IT'S ALLOWED WHEN WE COULD PUT A

16:43:42 SECOND SENTENCE SAYING HOWEVER PUBLIC COULD BE MADE -- AT

16:43:49 THE FOLLOWING THURSDAY MEETING PEOPLE COULD MAKE A REGULAR

16:43:51 PUBLIC COMMENT.

16:43:52 IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE NOT TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT.

16:43:54 IT'S JUST NOT TAKEN THAT DAY.

16:43:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, THURSDAY, MARCH 31st, IS A

16:43:59 MEETING THAT'S BEING SET, AND WE CAN SET PUBLIC COMMENT, IF

16:44:03 YOU LIKE, ON THE APPLICATIONS, IF PEOPLE WANT TO SPEAK TO

16:44:06 THE APPOINTMENT ON THAT DATE, COUNCIL.

16:44:10 ON THE 5th OR THE 7th.

16:44:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT IT'S GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

16:44:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

16:44:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIGHT, SO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE

16:44:21 DAY OF REVIEWING APPLICATION, THAT WOULD BE MARCH 31st




16:44:25 IS WHEN THE GENERAL COMMENT WOULD BE MADE.

16:44:27 THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT TUESDAY.

16:44:30 CORRECT?

16:44:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT.

16:44:33 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: JUST FOR THE APPLICANTS.

16:44:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BECAUSE I AM LOOKING AT THIS TIMELINE OF

16:44:37 APRIL 1st.

16:44:40 IF WE GET THE APPLICATION ON FRIDAY, I AM SURE YOU ARE GOING

16:44:43 TO GET IT BY NOON TIME, I WOULD IMAGINE.

16:44:46 AND THERE COULD BE A MULTITUDE OF APPLICATIONS THAT COME

16:44:49 OVER A WEEKEND TO BE READY FOR TUESDAY.

16:44:52 AM I CORRECT ON THAT?

16:44:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S RIGHT.

16:44:55 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: IN THE PAST WE HAVE HAD OVER 100.

16:45:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHOA, WHOA!

16:45:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS PART OF IT.

16:45:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW DOES THAT NARROW DOWN?

16:45:14 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: YOU WOULD NEED AT LEAST FOUR VOTES

16:45:20 TO BE ELECTED.

16:45:22 BUT INDIVIDUALS, IT WILL BE NARROWED DOWN BASED ON HOW MANY

16:45:29 VOTES YOU GET, LIKE --

16:45:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO IT'S NARROWED DOWN --

16:45:38 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: A SECOND BALLOT, OR THIRD BALLOT.

16:45:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THAT'S SET FORTH, BY THE WAY, COUNCIL,

16:45:43 IN YOUR NARRATIVE DESCRIPTION OF THE SELECTION PROCESS, FOR




16:45:50 INSTANCE, IN THE EVENT NO APPLICANT RECEIVES FOUR VOTES,

16:45:54 ONLY THE APPLICANTS RECEIVING THE GREATEST THE NEXT GREATEST

16:45:56 OR EQUAL NUMBER OF VOTES SHALL BE GENERALLY FOR ANOTHER

16:45:59 BALLOT.

16:45:59 THE CITY CLERK WILL REGISTER ANOTHER BALLOT.

16:46:01 THE CITY COUNCIL WITH ONLY THE NAMES LEGIBLE BEING THOSE OF

16:46:04 THE APPLICANTS IN THE RUNOFF, AND SHALL TALLY AND ANNOUNCE

16:46:08 THE RESULTS.

16:46:12 THE APPLICATION WHO RECEIVES FOUR OR MORE VOTES SHALL BE THE

16:46:15 PERSON SELECTED.

16:46:16 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: YES.

16:46:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND ALL COUNCILMEN WILL GET A COPY OF THE

16:46:23 APPLICATIONS?

16:46:24 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: WE WILL SEND THAT OUT.

16:46:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONCE IT'S APPROVED, THE APPLICATION, JUST

16:46:32 THE APPLICATION.

16:46:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

16:46:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, ANYTHING ELSE?

16:46:39 >>BILL CARLSON: THE ONLY VOTE IS A PAPER VOTE, NOT A HAND

16:46:42 VOTE, RIGHT?

16:46:43 IT'S NOT A VOICE VOTE?

16:46:45 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: IT'S A BALLOT.

16:46:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION WILL BE, HOW THE CLERK DOES

16:46:48 ANNOUNCE THAT NUMBER, AND I DISCUSS THAT WITH THE CLERK AND

16:46:54 THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, IN LIGHT OF RECENT COURT CASES JUST TO




16:46:58 MAKE CERTAIN WE DO IT OUR Is AND CROSS OUR Ts.

16:47:02 >>LUIS VIERA: AND BUILDING ON THE LAST QUESTION, JUST TO

16:47:05 CLARIFY, THE PAPER BALLOT, WILL SIGN WILL, CORRECT?

16:47:10 THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

16:47:11 THANK YOU.

16:47:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

16:47:15 ANYONE ELSE?

16:47:19 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: NO.

16:47:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION FOR THE OLYMPICS APPLICATION

16:47:24 PROCESS? CITRO, MANISCALCO.

16:47:25 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:47:26 ANY OPPOSED?

16:47:28 MOTION GRANTED.

16:47:30 WE HAVE THE APPLICATION PROCESS APPROVED.

16:47:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THIS APPLICATION PROCESS, MADAM CLERK,

16:47:34 WILL BE AVAILABLE ON NOON ON MONDAY.

16:47:37 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: NOON ON MONDAY.

16:47:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE, COUNCIL, AND THAT COMES THROUGH

16:47:40 THE CLERK'S OFFICE, CORRECT?

16:47:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

16:47:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE, COUNCIL, EVEN THOUGH THIS HAS BEEN

16:47:50 APPROVED -- NOON ON MONDAY, TO MAKE SURE?

16:48:01 >>THE CLERK: RIGHT.

16:48:02 AND THE APPLICATION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CORRECTED

16:48:04 AND I WILL FORWARD A COPY TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS.




16:48:09 IN ADDITION TO THE MOTION, THERE'S A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING

16:48:12 ON APRIL 5th JUST FOR THE RECORD?

16:48:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SCHEDULE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO

16:48:18 SCREEN THE APPLICANTS AND HEAR FROM THEM APRIL 5th AT

16:48:22 9:00 A.M.

16:48:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.

16:48:24 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:48:26 ANY OPPOSED?

16:48:27 MOTION GRANTED.

16:48:30 MR. SHELBY, YOUR TURN, SIR.

16:48:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.

16:48:36 FIRST OF ALL, IF I DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE APRIL

16:48:40 7th MEETING ON YOUR CALENDAR, YOUR LAST ITEM IS THAT THE

16:48:46 CHIEF OF STAFF AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER APPEAR AND

16:48:48 DISCUSS THE COLLABORATIVE PROCESS BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION

16:48:51 AND THE COUNCIL FOR CREATING THE NEXT BUDGET.

16:48:53 I AM GOING TO ASK COUNCIL TO AMEND THAT TO HAVE INCLUDING

16:48:58 THE DISCUSSION OF THE CITIZENS BUDGET AND ADVISORY

16:49:00 COMMITTEE.

16:49:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.

16:49:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVED BY MR. MANISCALCO.

16:49:05 SECOND BY MR. CITRO.

16:49:07 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:49:09 ANY OPPOSED?

16:49:09 MOTION GRANTED.




16:49:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE LAST THING, COUNCIL.

16:49:12 RATHER SIGNIFICANT AND RATHER UNUSUAL.

16:49:14 BUT I AM GOING TO ASK FOR COUNCIL'S TO CONSIDER POSTPONING

16:49:19 NEXT WEEK'S CHARTER WORKSHOP, IN LIGHT OF THE EVENTS OF THIS

16:49:23 WEEK, AND I KNOW THAT IS UNUSUAL, BUT IN TALKING WITH THE

16:49:29 DIRECTOR OF THE INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENT AT USF, AND

16:49:34 REVIEWING WHAT HAS HAPPENED HAVING ONE COUNCILMEMBER NOT

16:49:38 PRESENT AND NOT BEING APPOINTED NOW UNTIL MARCH 7th

16:49:42 [SIC], IT WOULD BE OF GREATER VALUE TO COUNCIL TO HAVE A

16:49:47 FULL COUNCIL.

16:49:51 PARDON ME, APRIL 7Th?

16:49:53 WHAT DID I SAY, MARCH?

16:49:54 I'M LIVING IN THE PAST.

16:49:55 APRIL 7th.

16:49:56 FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.

16:49:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.

16:50:02 >>> I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE I WAS THINKING

16:50:04 ABOUT THAT.

16:50:04 WE HAD A POTENTIAL TIME HERE THAT WE HAD TO CONTINUE FOR

16:50:08 THAT ONE ITEM THAT WAS ALREADY CONTINUED.

16:50:10 WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED THIS MORNING WITH THE CHIEF.

16:50:12 IT COULD HAVE BEEN A TIE VOTE.

16:50:16 THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE WITH THE CHIEF.

16:50:18 AND BEING THAT WE HAVE AN EVEN NUMBER, YOU CAN'T HAVE A 4-3,

16:50:22 YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE TIES AND TIDES AND TIES.




16:50:25 SO BEING THAT THE CHARTER IS SO SIGNIFICANT, AND BASICALLY

16:50:29 THE CONSTITUTION OF THE CITY, AS LONG AS WE DON'T LOSE ANY

16:50:34 MONEY, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A FACILITATOR, AND I KNOW THAT

16:50:38 IT'S GOING TO COST US, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE POSTPONE THAT

16:50:42 TO THE NEXT WORKSHOP, THE NEXT MONTH OR WHATEVER IT TAKES,

16:50:47 SO WE HAVE THAT SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WE HAVE A FULL

16:50:50 COUNCIL, BECAUSE SOME ISSUES COULD BE CONTENTIOUS.

16:50:53 I DON'T KNOW.

16:50:53 BUT I DON'T WANT TIE VOTES, AND WE WASTE OUR TIME.

16:50:56 I WOULD RATHER IT BE A FULL COUNCIL AND WE GET WHAT WE WANT

16:51:00 DONE ON THAT SAID WORKSHOP DAY AND CONTINUING THIS.

16:51:02 SO MY QUESTION IS, WILL WE LOSE ANY MONEY?

16:51:07 I KNOW I ASKED THE LAST TIME, HOW MUCH IS THE FACILITATOR

16:51:11 COST?

16:51:12 AND IS IT A CONTRACT THAT WE SIGNED OR DIDN'T SIGN?

16:51:15 DID WE PUT A DEPOSIT? DO WE MAKE PAYMENTS FOR THAT?

16:51:18 ARE WE EFFECTED FINANCIALLY BY THAT?

16:51:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WE HAVE IS ACCEPTANCE OF THE PROPOSAL

16:51:23 BY COUNCIL, AND I HAVE HAD IT APPROVED THROUGH THE

16:51:25 ADMINISTRATION THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PURCHASING, AND THE

16:51:29 LIKE.

16:51:30 THERE IS NO SIGNED CONTRACT.

16:51:31 I DID SPEAK WITH ANDREA KRISTIN AND SHE ASSURED ME IT WAS

16:51:38 POSTPONED THAT THERE WOULD BE NO FINANCIAL IMPACT, AND IT'S

16:51:41 EARLY ENOUGH NOW FOR THE NEXT WEEK'S WORKSHOP MEETING IN THE




16:51:46 MORNING TO BE CANCELED, AND HAVE NO IMPACT ON FACILITATOR.

16:51:54 SO AS LONG AS IT'S NOT POSTPONED TOO LONG.

16:51:57 MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT TO WAIT TILL

16:52:00 AFTER THE COUNCIL APPOINTS THE SEVENTH MEMBER BEFORE YOU SET

16:52:05 THE DATE, THEN WE CAN SET THE DATE, THEN IT CAN BE A SPECIAL

16:52:09 CALL MEETING.

16:52:10 HOWEVER YOU WISH TO DO IT.

16:52:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY LAST QUESTION.

16:52:13 IF WE MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE CHARTER, ANYTHING THAT WE

16:52:16 PROPOSE, AND IT HAS TO GO TO A BALLOT, WHAT IS THE DEADLINE

16:52:19 FOR THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS? OR DOES IT MATTER IF WE

16:52:23 POSTPONE IT?

16:52:24 I AM LOOKING HERE LIKE MAY 26th, LIKE A LIGHT WORKSHOP

16:52:28 DAY.

16:52:29 AT THE APRIL WORKSHOP IT'S VERY BUSY.

16:52:31 BUT WHAT ARE THE LEAD LINES THAT WE HAVE SO WE DON'T

16:52:36 POSTPONE IT TOO FAR THAT WE LOSE GETTING IT ON WHATEVER WE

16:52:39 CHANGE, IF WE CHANGE ANYTHING?

16:52:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A WORKSHOP MEETING IS NOT GOOD.

16:52:45 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CHARTER ISSUES.

16:52:46 A WORKSHOP DAY IS JUST NOT GOOD.

16:52:48 IT HAS TO BE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING.

16:52:50 THAT'S WHY PREVIOUSLY WE MOVED EVERYTHING OFF THE WORKSHOP

16:52:53 TO ONLY DEAL WITH THE CHARTER ISSUE.

16:52:55 I JUST THINK THE CHARTER IS TOO IMPORTANT TO TRY TO HAVE




16:52:58 OTHER THINGS, TO TRY TO RUSH.

16:52:59 WE DON'T NEED TO RUSH IT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SPEAK

16:53:05 ON THAT AS WELL.

16:53:07 COUNCIL MEMBERS IDEAS AND SO FORTH AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT

16:53:10 THAT ON A WORKSHOP DAY UNLESS WE ARE SCRAPPING THE WORKSHOP

16:53:14 DAY.

16:53:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ON A TUESDAY, WE HAVE APRIL 12, WE HAVE

16:53:18 APRIL 19th, I BELIEVE.

16:53:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WHOEVER IS COMING ON

16:53:25 BOARD GETTING THEM UP TO SPEED.

16:53:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE SURE WE SELECT THE BEST CANDIDATE.

16:53:32 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S A GOOD POINT, MR. CHAIR.

16:53:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GET THEM UP TO SPEED REAL QUICKLY.

16:53:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, BUT YOU DO HAVE A GOOD QUESTION ABOUT

16:53:44 THE DEADLINES.

16:53:45 IF YOU WANT IT FOR THE NOVEMBER 8th GENERAL ELECTION IT

16:53:47 HAS TO BE AT THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, THE DEADLINE FOR

16:53:52 FINAL APPROVAL AUGUST 23rd OF THIS YEAR 2022.

16:53:56 THEY NEED TIME TO SECURE TRANSLATION.

16:54:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PLENTY OF TIME, SIR.

16:54:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WANT IT FORTUNATE CITY ELECTION

16:54:04 THAT DEADLINE IS JANUARY 20th OF NEXT YEAR.

16:54:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PLENTY OF TIME.

16:54:08 MR. CARLSON.

16:54:09 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO THINGS.




16:54:12 A QUESTION AND A STATEMENT.

16:54:14 COULD WE JUST MOVE THE WORKSHOP ITEMS OFF MAY 26th AND

16:54:18 MOVE THEM TO FUTURE BECAUSE AGAIN, THE PUBLIC EXPECTS TO

16:54:23 SHOW UP ON THURSDAYS, IF WE CAN MOVE THAT.

16:54:33 WHY NOT?

16:54:35 I MEAN, IF YOU -- MAY 26th --

16:54:40 >>BILL CARLSON: TOO FAR DOWN.

16:54:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD RATHER DO A SPECIAL CALL ON

16:54:45 TUESDAY IN APRIL, LIKE WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THE

16:54:48 APPLICANTS COMING IN ON TUESDAY.

16:54:49 I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

16:54:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A QUESTION OF COUNCIL.

16:54:56 BECAUSE THIS IS ALSO GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON THE

16:54:58 FACILITATORS' AVAILABLE.

16:55:00 SO IF COUNCIL WOULD GIVE ME THEIR DRUTHERS, AND REMIND

16:55:08 COUNCIL THAT YOU DO HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING SET FOR

16:55:11 THE APPOINTMENT, AND YOU ALSO HAVE A COMMENDATIONS ALREADY

16:55:16 SET ON A TUESDAY AS WELL.

16:55:17 SO IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL TUESDAY.

16:55:19 BUT IF YOU GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK NEXT WEEK AND

16:55:24 AVAILABLE DATES.

16:55:26 OR NOT AVAILABLE DATES, THEN WE COULD GIVE IT SOME

16:55:29 CONSIDERATION.

16:55:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE.

16:55:30 >>BILL CARLSON: SHE DID RAISE THAT ISSUE AND THAT WOULD BE




16:55:38 ONE OF THE CONTROLLING FACTORS.

16:55:39 >> I MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE.

16:55:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO IF IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, I KNOW IT'S

16:55:46 RATHER UNUSUAL, BUT IF COUNCIL WISHES TO CANCEL NEXT WEEK'S

16:55:50 WORKSHOP, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE MORNING FREE, AND YOU

16:55:54 WOULD HAVE THE NIGHT MEETING.

16:55:55 I KNOW IT'S SHORT NOTICE, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BEHOOVE YOU,

16:55:59 AND IT MIGHT BEHOOVE THE PROCESS.

16:56:01 AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE DISCUSSION I

16:56:03 HAD.

16:56:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SEVERAL DATES?

16:56:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL IN FINDING THE DATE

16:56:11 IF THIS PERSON IS UNAVAILABLE THEN COME BACK NEXT WEEK.

16:56:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT MR.

16:56:16 SHELBY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE FACILITATOR, SEE WHAT DATES

16:56:19 ARE NOT AVAILABLE, AND THEN WE CAN EASE THE PROCESS OR MAKE

16:56:22 IT EASIER FOR US TO SELECT A DAY WHICH WE COULD DO BY NEXT

16:56:26 THURSDAY'S EVENING SESSION.

16:56:27 IS THAT CORRECT?

16:56:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT.

16:56:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND WE'LL STILL MEET THE DEADLINE FOR

16:56:30 THE SUPERVISOR, AND WE ARE NOT KICKING IT FAR DOWN THE ROAD

16:56:34 WHERE THE PUBLIC THINKS THAT WE ARE HOARDING A TOPIC OR

16:56:38 ANYTHING NEGATIVE AND WE ARE STILL GETTING DOWN TO BUSINESS

16:56:40 WITH A FULL COUNCIL.




16:56:42 AND CANCEL --

16:56:44 >> DO THE THAT BY SEPARATE MOTION.

16:56:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THAT'S MY MOTION THAT WE DIRECT MR.

16:56:48 SHELBY TO DO THOSE THINGS.

16:56:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FIND OUT WHEN THEY ARE AVAILABLE AND COME

16:56:54 BACK -- IN THE MEANTIME, COUNCIL, INDIVIDUALLY, JUST GIVE IT

16:56:58 SOME THOUGHT, CHECK YOUR CALENDARS AND SEE WHAT WORKS BEST

16:57:01 FOR YOU.

16:57:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY CARLSON.

16:57:07 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:57:08 ANY OPPOSED?

16:57:09 MOTION GRANTED.

16:57:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN THE SECOND MOTION IS TO CANCEL THE

16:57:12 9 A.M. WORKSHOP ON MARCH 24th.

16:57:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND ON THAT?

16:57:19 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.

16:57:21 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:57:22 ANY OPPOSED?

16:57:24 MOTION GRANTED.

16:57:24 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT.

16:57:29 YOU ALL MAY HAVE SEEN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT THIS MORNING BUT

16:57:32 THE COMMENT BY THE MAYOR'S SPOKESPERSON YESTERDAY, TODAY IN

16:57:35 THE TIMES, I THINK IT WAS 40 OR SO YEARS THAT THERE WAS NO

16:57:43 MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE CHARTER, AND THEN THE LAST COUNCIL,

16:57:46 WHICH WE HAVE THREE MEMBERS HERE, CREATED THE CHARTER REVIEW




16:57:51 COMMISSION, WHICH TWO OF US WERE ON IT, AND THE MEMBERS WHO

16:57:55 WERE HERE NOMINATED PEOPLE.

16:57:56 THAT CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION THEN RECOMMENDED A PROCESS

16:58:01 THAT THE VOTERS WENT ON AT LEAST EVERY TEN YEARS THERE WOULD

16:58:04 BE A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

16:58:06 I THINK THE MAYOR'S SPOKESPERSON SAID IN THE MEDIA THAT

16:58:11 GUDES AND I WERE TRYING TO CIRCUMVENT THE PROCESS OF THE

16:58:13 CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

16:58:14 THE CHARTER ALSO SAYS THAT CITY COUNCIL, AS WE ARE

16:58:18 PROPOSING, CITY COUNCIL COULD MAKE ANY AMENDMENTS WE WANT ON

16:58:21 THE BALLOT.

16:58:24 IF NO CITY COUNCIL HAD DONE THAT BEFORE, THAT'S UP TO THEM,

16:58:26 BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT JUST BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL AT

16:58:31 THE TIME PUT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION EVERY TEN YEARS

16:58:34 DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T BE UPDATED.

16:58:37 THERE'S NO PROCESS TO CIRCUMVENT.

16:58:39 WE ARE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS.

16:58:40 AND I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

16:58:41 THE SECOND THING, THERE'S LIKE A CONSPIRACY THEORY GOING

16:58:44 AROUND I THINK STARTED BY THE LAST MAYOR, AND YOU ARE TRYING

16:58:47 TO TAKE AWAY THE STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

16:58:49 NO.

16:58:50 ONE OF YOU MAY PROPOSE THAT, BUT WE HAVE SOME THINGS THAT

16:58:55 MAY BE TWEAKED JUST LIKE THE LAST TIME, ONE OF THE BASICS

16:58:58 THINGS WAS INSTEAD OF SAYING HE OR HIM, WE CHANGE IT TO HE,




16:59:02 SHE, ET CETERA, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT CONFUSING,

16:59:06 LIKE THE LAST TIME ONE OF THE THINGS WE CLEANED UP BECAUSE

16:59:09 OF THE PROBLEM IN THE LAST ADMINISTRATION WAS HOW LONG CAN A

16:59:12 NOMINEE BE INTERIM BEFORE -- BEFORE THEY HAVE TO BE

16:59:18 APPOINTED?

16:59:19 AND WE FIXED THAT PROBLEM.

16:59:20 BUT A NEW PROBLEM AROSE IS WHAT'S THE TITLE OF SOMEBODY WHO

16:59:24 HAS BEEN NOMINATED BUT NOT CONFIRMED?

16:59:26 AND I THINK IT'S WORTH US HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.

16:59:30 THAT'S NOT A POWER STRUGGLE WITH A STRONG MAYOR FORM OF

16:59:33 GOVERNMENT.

16:59:34 JUST CLARIFYING IT FOR THE PUBLIC.

16:59:36 AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER MINOR THINGS LIKE THAT I DON'T KNOW

16:59:38 WHAT YOU ALL WOULD PROPOSE.

16:59:39 BUT THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FIGHT WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE,

16:59:42 DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FIGHT WITH THE LAST MAYOR.

16:59:44 IT IS JUST A DISCUSSION TO CLEAR UP SOME LANGUAGE SO THAT WE

16:59:49 CAN AVOID CAUSING CONFLICT IN THE FUTURE.

16:59:52 THANK YOU.

16:59:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CARLSON.

16:59:55 I LOOKED AT SOME OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, AND PEOPLE

16:59:58 SAYING -- IN MY MIND SOME OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, IT

17:00:07 SEEMS LIKE THE WRITING HAS CHANGED.

17:00:09 I DON'T KNOW. BUT I LOOK AT A LOT OF THINGS IN THE CHARTER,

17:00:14 SITTING HERE AS A COUNCILMAN, I SEE HOW THE LAST COUNCIL HAD




17:00:18 ISSUES BECAUSE THINGS ARE JUST NOT CUT AND DRY, CLEAR.

17:00:21 MR. SHELBY HAD SOME TIME TO MAKE AN INTERPRETATION AND WE

17:00:25 HAD A FIGHT WITH LEGAL.

17:00:27 THERE ARE THINGS THAT COME UP NOW THAT HAVE TO BE CRYSTAL

17:00:31 CLEAR.

17:00:31 I LOOK AT THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE NOMINEE RIGHT NOW.

17:00:34 THAT PERSON IS A NOMINEE.

17:00:35 THAT PERSON CANNOT MAKE ANY JUDICIAL DECISIONS OR WHATEVER.

17:00:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OR TAKE A SALARY.

17:00:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OR TAKE A SALARY.

17:00:45 THAT PERSON CANNOT GO AROUND TALKING TO THE SENATORS

17:00:48 REFERENCE TO A CONFIRMATION.

17:00:50 AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF OUT OF BALANCE THE WAY WE ARE DOING

17:00:53 THINGS.

17:00:53 AND IT'S JUST MY OPINION.

17:00:55 I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT WHEN WE HAVE

17:00:58 OUR CHARTER REVIEW DISCUSSION.

17:01:00 BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CLEANING UP A FEW THINGS.

17:01:03 NOT CHANGING THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

17:01:04 JUST CLEANING SOME THINGS UP.

17:01:05 THE PUBLIC WANTS IT CLEAR AS WELL.

17:01:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL BE THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, BUT IF

17:01:12 YOU ARE LOOKING AT JUST THE CHIEF, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL

17:01:14 OF THEM.

17:01:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OH, YES.




17:01:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND CAN'T GET A SALARY, THE WHOLE THING.

17:01:21 GOT TO REALIZE THE EFFECT, THE POSITIVES AND THE NEGATIVES.

17:01:25 THAT'S ALL.

17:01:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ABSOLUTELY.

17:01:27 I AGREE.

17:01:29 ALL RIGHT, MR. SHELBY, ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU, SIR?

17:01:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.

17:01:32 THANK YOU.

17:01:34 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO THINGS REAL FAST IF I COULD.

17:01:36 SOME POLICE OFFICERS HAVE TOLD ME THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE

17:01:41 EXPENSES THAT THEY HAVE TO INCUR, THAT THEY WOULD RATHER NOT

17:01:45 PERSONALLY INCUR, WHEN THEY RESPOND TO -- WHAT DO YOU CALL

17:01:49 IT, A RESPONSE?

17:01:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN THEY GO OUT TO A CALL.

17:01:56 >>BILL CARLSON: SO IF IT HAPPENS AS THEY ARE TRYING TO

17:01:58 RESPOND, THE CLOSEST PARKING SPACE IS A PRIVATELY OWNED

17:02:02 PARKING SPACE, AND THEY PARK THERE, IF THEY GET A TICKET FOR

17:02:05 THE PRIVATELY OWNED LOT OWNER, THEY HAVE TO PAY IT

17:02:08 PERSONALLY.

17:02:10 AND THE SAME THING, IF THEY --

17:02:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IN A MARKED POLICE CAR?

17:02:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

17:02:21 AND IF THERE ARE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES BY WHICH IF THEY ARE

17:02:24 RESPONDING WHEN THEY DRIVE THROUGH, A RED LIGHT CAMERA, THAT

17:02:28 THEY ALSO CAN GET TICKETS.




17:02:29 AND IT COULD BE IN BOTH CASES WE SHOULDN'T DO ANYTHING OR

17:02:32 MAYBE WE SHOULD.

17:02:33 BUT ANYWAY --

17:02:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE NEVER HEARD, EVEN IF YOU GO THROUGH

17:02:40 THE TOLL, DIDN'T HAVE A TOLL PIECE, OR -- EVEN UNMARKED CARS

17:02:46 HAVE A SPECIAL STICKER, SO --

17:02:50 >>BILL CARLSON: SO IN BOTH CASES, AND I CONFIRMED IT WITH

17:02:53 PBA THIS MORNING.

17:02:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.

17:02:55 >>BILL CARLSON: IN BOTH CASE IT IS POLICE OFFICER HAS TO

17:02:57 PAY THOSE HIMSELF.

17:02:59 AND IT SEEMS TO ME UNLESS THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY BREAKING THE

17:03:01 LAW THAT THE CITY SHOULD REIMBURSE THEM.

17:03:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF THEY ARE WORKING FOR THE CITY.

17:03:09 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF

17:03:11 TO REPORT BACK ON MAY 5th WHETHER IT'S POSSIBLE OR

17:03:14 NECESSARY TO BE REIMBURSE POLICE OFFICERS FOR PRIVATE

17:03:16 PARKING TICKETS AND RED LIGHT CAMERA FINES INCURRED DURING

17:03:19 AN OFFICIAL RESPONSE.

17:03:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.

17:03:23 ALL IN FAVOR?

17:03:25 OPPOSED?

17:03:26 >>BILL CARLSON: MAY 5th.

17:03:29 IF IT TURNS OUT IT'S COVERED IN SOME WAY AND SOME POLICE

17:03:33 OFFICERS DIDN'T NOBODY ABOUT IT, FINE.




17:03:35 BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP.

17:03:37 SECOND, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION GOING ON ABOUT THE ALL

17:03:41 FOR TRANSPORTATION MONEY, AND SOUND LIKE THE CITY COULD GET

17:03:45 BACK FROM 80 TO 120 MILLION AFTER THE REFUNDS.

17:03:48 WE DON'T KNOW YET.

17:03:49 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO REPORT TO

17:03:53 COUNCIL ON MAY 5th.

17:03:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.

17:04:01 >>BILL CARLSON: TO RECEIVE -- SORRY, TO REPORT TO COUNCIL

17:04:05 ON MAY 5th AND RECEIVE COUNCIL AND PUBLIC INPUT AS TO

17:04:09 HOW TAMPA'S SHARE OF THE AFT MONEY SHOULD BE USED.

17:04:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND IF I CAN MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.

17:04:21 I THINK SUBSTANTIAL MONEY SHOULD BE USED FOR THE STREETCAR.

17:04:26 I GOT THE MAYOR'S SUPPORT ON THAT I'M SURE.

17:04:28 AND THE WEST TAMPA, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND I.

17:04:33 SO THE PEOPLE LISTENING TO -- 50th STREET.

17:04:40 BUT I THINK A GOOD CHUNK SHOULD GO TO ROAD REPAVING BECAUSE

17:04:43 IT'S LONG OVERDUE AND THE REST SHOULD BE DEDICATED TO

17:04:46 EXTENDING THE STREET CAR OR SOME INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC

17:04:49 TRANSPORTATION.

17:04:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I CAN THROW IN MY REMARKS, SIDEWALKS,

17:04:58 HALF A MILE FROM SCHOOLS.

17:04:59 >>BILL CARLSON: SO THE IDEA IS EVEN BEFORE THE MONEY COMES

17:05:06 IN, IF THE DECISION MAY NOT HAVE BEEN MADE BY MAY 5th,

17:05:10 LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION, HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, AND STAFF




17:05:12 AND CITY COUNCIL, TO WHAT OUR SUGGESTIONS ARE, ULTIMATELY WE

17:05:15 APPROVE THE BUDGET, SO LET'S GET OUR INPUT BEFORE THEY

17:05:18 DECIDE, INSTEAD OF US DECIDING ON A CONSENT AGENDA, LET'S

17:05:22 GET OUR FEEDBACK ON IT.

17:05:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO SECOND IT.

17:05:26 ALL IN FAVOR?

17:05:28 MOTION GRANTED.

17:05:30 MR. MANISCALCO.

17:05:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A FEW ITEMS TODAY.

17:05:32 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO

17:05:34 EL GALLO DE ORO, WILL BE CLOSING HIS DOORS FOR THE LAST

17:05:41 TIME.

17:05:42 THE ICONIC RESTAURANT IN WEST TAMPA DECIDED TO MAKE A NEW

17:05:47 START IN THE NORTHERN OCALA AREA.

17:05:51 I THINK IT'S CHIEFLAND. IS THAT NEAR OCALA?

17:06:06 BUT I WOULD LIKE -- OKAY, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HONORING THEM

17:06:10 FOR ALL THEIR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, AND REACH OUT TO

17:06:15 THEM, AND I HAVE EVERYTHING WRITTEN DOWN FOR THE CLERK.

17:06:20 SO WE HAVE IT RIGHT.

17:06:21 AND THAT'S IT.

17:06:24 APRIL 12th.

17:06:27 HERE.

17:06:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECONDED.

17:06:36 SECOND BY MR. CITRO.

17:06:38 ALL IN FAVOR?




17:06:39 OPPOSED?

17:06:40 MOTION GRANTED.

17:06:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND MY

17:06:42 CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF COOKIE GARCIA WHO PASSED AWAY.

17:06:48 I'M SURE EVERYBODY KNEW HIM.

17:06:51 INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY FOREVER.

17:06:55 I KNEW HIM THROUGH YBOR CITY LION'S CLUB.

17:07:03 FROM BACK IN THE DAY, NOW LEVINE?

17:07:07 MY MOTHER TOLD ME AND THEN I GOT CONFIRMATION YESTERDAY OR

17:07:10 THE DAY BEFORE.

17:07:11 BUT GREAT INDIVIDUAL, INVOLVED WITH TAMPA BAY SPORTS CLUB.

17:07:15 HE WAS JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL ALUM OF THE YEAR.

17:07:19 JUST SO MANY THINGS.

17:07:20 AND A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL FRIEND TO ME AND A LOT OF PEOPLE

17:07:24 HERE.

17:07:24 MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.

17:07:26 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY?

17:07:31 NORMA WAS DIVORCED FOR A LONG TIME BUT SHE LOVED HIM AND HE

17:07:34 WAS IN THE HOSPITAL AND OTHER THINGS, AND THEY HAD A GREAT

17:07:38 RELATIONSHIP.

17:07:38 SO CONDOLENCES.

17:07:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THAT'S IT.

17:07:43 AND THE LAST ITEM IS REGARDING ALLIED SECURITY.

17:07:46 WE HAVE THE SECURITY FOLKS HERE DOWNSTAIRS AND THOSE WHO

17:07:49 HELP ON THE SECOND FLOOR.




17:07:55 BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ALICE AT THE FRONT DESK AND ALEX

17:08:00 KNOWS WHO COMES IN AND OUT BUT THERE'S ALSO THE YOUNG LADY

17:08:03 WITH THE DARK HAIR WHO YOU SEE HAS BEEN WORKING THE SECOND

17:08:06 FLOOR, DONNA?

17:08:09 AND IT CAME TO MY ATTENTION THAT SHE WAS BEING REASSIGNED

17:08:12 OUT OF CITY HALL, AND SOMEBODY ELSE IS TAKING HER PLACE.

17:08:15 AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

17:08:16 AND HER CONCERN, SHE LOVED WORKING HERE.

17:08:19 I THINK TODAY MAY BE HER LAST DAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN

17:08:22 DO IF WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE SUPERVISOR OR SOMEBODY IN

17:08:25 CHARGE OF ALLIED.

17:08:27 THE THING IS, WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE HER WHO COMES IN

17:08:32 AND OUT OF CITY COUNCIL, CITY HALL, THEY BUILD RAPPORT WITH

17:08:36 THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF REGULAR SPEAKERS AND

17:08:39 WHATNOT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT

17:08:42 KNOW THE COMMUNITY, KNOW THE FACES COMING IN, AND THAT'S IT.

17:08:45 SO IT WILL BE MY RECOMMENDATION MAYBE TO JIM, WHO I KNOW HAS

17:08:49 BEEN COORDINATING AND WORKING WITH THE VIRTUAL SECOND FLOOR

17:08:52 AND ALL THAT, THAT WHATEVER WE CAN DO THAT SHE STAYS HERE

17:08:55 WITH US, I THINK SHOULD BE HERE, AND KEEP IT AS IS.

17:09:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT.

17:09:11 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]

17:09:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE SEND A LETTER TO HIS OFFICE?

17:09:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHICH DEPARTMENT?

17:09:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF OF STAFF.




17:09:24 MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT THE CHAIR'S OFFICE SEND A LETTER OF

17:09:28 SUPPORT, THAT WE KEEP DONNA HERE WITH US AT CITY HALL.

17:09:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.

17:09:34 ALL IN FAVOR?

17:09:37 OPPOSED?

17:09:37 MOTION GRANTED.

17:09:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT.

17:09:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

17:09:40 MR. CITRO.

17:09:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

17:09:46 WE HAVE ABBYE FEELEY AND CATE WELLS DISCUSSED SOME ITEMS

17:09:49 ABOUT CHAPTER 27 AT A WORKSHOP THAT WAS PRESENTED HERE.

17:09:53 AFTER THE INFORMATION THAT THEY GAVE US, WE TOOK NO ACTIONS

17:09:58 ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US.

17:10:01 BUT I HAVE MADE A MOTION THAT MS. FEELEY COME BACK AND

17:10:06 BRIEFLY, WE DISCUSSED THE ITEMS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.

17:10:09 SINCE WE TOOK NO ACTION, THERE IS NO NEED FOR HER TO COME

17:10:14 BACK ON THAT DATE, AND I WANT TO RESCIND THAT MOTION.

17:10:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.

17:10:20 ALL IN FAVOR?

17:10:22 OPPOSED?

17:10:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I BELIEVE IT WAS JUNE 23rd.

17:10:29 JUNE 23rd.

17:10:31 JUNE 23rd.

17:10:35 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]




17:10:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR?

17:10:41 OPPOSED?

17:10:41 OKAY.

17:10:45 MR. VIERA DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR US TODAY.

17:10:46 [ LAUGHTER ]

17:10:49 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING CONTROVERSIAL.

17:10:50 YOU ALL MAY HAVE SEEN THE MEMORIAL OUTSIDE BY THE GROUP

17:10:53 REMEMBERING OUR FALLEN.

17:10:55 I WANT TO GIVE THEM A CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION HIGHLIGHTING

17:10:58 LOCAL SOLDIERS KILLED IN ACTION.

17:11:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.

17:11:01 ALL IN FAVOR?

17:11:02 OPPOSED?

17:11:03 MOTION GRANTED.

17:11:03 >>LUIS VIERA: THEN I WAS CONTACTED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA

17:11:06 AUTISM FRIENDLY COMMITTEE, THAT THEY WANTED TO SPEAK BEFORE

17:11:11 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR AUTISM AWARENESS MONTH, AND I THINK

17:11:15 ARE WE IN APRIL STILL DOING THE COMMENDATION WEEK?

17:11:20 >> ON THE 12th.

17:11:21 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I WILL DO IT FOR THAT DAY.

17:11:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.

17:11:25 ALL IN FAVOR?

17:11:26 OPPOSED?

17:11:27 MOTION GRANTED.

17:11:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THEN LASTLY, SOMETHING I THOUGHT OF, I HAVE A




17:11:31 GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, SOME OF YOU ALL MET HIM, TIM REED WHO

17:11:35 HAS A VETERAN K-9 DOG WHO WAS IN AFGHANISTAN.

17:11:40 THE DOG HAD A LOT OF HEALTH PROBLEMS AND WHATNOT.

17:11:43 HE HAD TO KIND OF PAY FOR IT OUT OF POCKET.

17:11:45 EVEN THOUGH HIS DOG SAVED A LOT OF LIVES AND IT GOT ME

17:11:49 THINKING ON THE LOCAL LEVEL WHAT IS THE CITY OF TAMPA,

17:11:52 ESPECIALLY TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION

17:11:53 WITH ITS K-9 DOGS AFTER THEY ARE FINISHED, THEY ARE ADOPTED,

17:11:59 BUT WHAT DO THEY DO FOR THEIR LONG-TERM CARE?

17:12:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONCE THEY ARE ADOPTED, A GOOD FAMILY, OR

17:12:09 THEY ARE ADOPTED.

17:12:11 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD LIKE TO INQUIRE.

17:12:12 AND CHAIRMAN GUDES, LET ME ASK YOU, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK

17:12:15 ABOUT SOME SORT OF A CITY PROGRAM TO HELP WITH THE

17:12:20 MAINTENANCE AND CARE OF THOSE K9 DOGS MANY OF WHOM HAVE

17:12:24 HEALTH CONDITIONS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE WORK THAT THEY DO

17:12:26 WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT?

17:12:29 SOME SORT OF A FUND OR SOMETHING?

17:12:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAYBE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS SOMETHING.

17:12:35 >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT I WILL DO THEN, IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY, I

17:12:37 WILL GET IT SET UP FOR THE FIRST WEEK IN MAY, IF I MAY, JUST

17:12:41 AS A WRITTEN REPORT, NO APPEARANCE.

17:12:43 THERE YOU GO.

17:12:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT THE MOTION WILL BE, IS IT CLEAR?

17:12:49 >>LUIS VIERA: TO ADMINISTRATION TO REPORT ON WHETHER OR NOT




17:12:52 THERE IS ANY FUND FOR CARE AND ASSISTANCE OF TPD DOGS ONCE

17:12:58 THEY ARE ADOPTED.

17:13:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.

17:13:01 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]

17:13:09 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THAT'S WHY I JUST WANT A REPORT.

17:13:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.

17:13:13 ALL IN FAVOR?

17:13:14 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF BE THEY GET WITH ME BEFORE AND IT

17:13:16 TURNS OUT IT'S A NONISSUE THEN I WILL WITHDRAW IT.

17:13:19 THANK YOU, SIR.

17:13:20 AND GOOD MEETING TODAY.

17:13:22 IT WAS A HELL OF A MEETING.

17:13:23 THERE YOU GO.

17:13:24 HECK OF A JOB DONE.

17:13:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA?

17:13:28 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]

17:13:33 >>LUIS VIERA: APRIL 12th.

17:13:34 YES, SIR.

17:13:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOTHING, SIR.

17:13:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AS YOU KNOW, WE GAVE VIVIAN HAWORTH A

17:13:45 COMMENDATION.

17:13:47 I WENT TO THE HOSPITAL TO GIVE IT TO HER.

17:13:52 I BELIEVE IN GIVING PEOPLE FLOWERS WHILE THEY ARE HERE.

17:13:54 SHE DID PASS AWAY.

17:13:56 SERVICES WILL BE AT NEW BETHEL BIBLE BAPTIST CHURCH, NORTH




17:14:00 BAY.

17:14:03 SATURDAY THE 19th AT 10 A.M.

17:14:05 THE WAKE WILL BE FRIDAY FROM 3 TO 8 P.M. AT THE WILSON

17:14:08 FUNERAL HOME.

17:14:09 AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE REFRESHMENTS 11:30 A.M. AT AL

17:14:18 BARNES PARK.

17:14:20 A LONG TIME ACTIVIST OUR COMMUNITY AND SHE FOUGHT A GOOD

17:14:25 FIGHT AND NOW HE'S TAKEN HER HOME.

17:14:26 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRENT A COMMENDATION TO

17:14:30 OLATHA LEGGETT, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CORNERSTONE KIDS AT

17:14:33 THEIR FUNDRAISER ON MARCH 31st, 2022 OFF-SITE.

17:14:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN GUDES.

17:14:40 SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.

17:14:42 ALL IN FAVOR?

17:14:43 ANY OPPOSED?

17:14:44 YES, SIR?

17:14:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT

17:14:49 COMMENDATION TO FAIR HOUSING CELEBRATION ON FAIR HOUSING

17:14:52 MONTH TO PRESENT AT THEIR EVENT ON APRIL 18th, 2022.

17:14:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN GUDES, SECOND FROM

17:15:00 MEMBER MIRANDA.

17:15:02 ALL IN FAVOR?

17:15:03 ANYTHING ELSE?

17:15:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I LOOKED AT THIS PACKET.

17:15:05 I GUESS IT'S SOMETHING DEALING WITH THE HANNA DPR, I DON'T




17:15:09 KNOW IF RECEIVED BY THE CLERK, RECEIVED AND FILED, THIS

17:15:13 PACKET.

17:15:14 JUST PUT IT AS A RECEIVE AND FILE.

17:15:19 BUT MR. JOE ROBINSON DISTRIBUTED IT TO EVERYBODY.

17:15:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE

17:15:30 THIS ITEM FROM CHAIRMAN GUDES.

17:15:32 IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.

17:15:35 ALL IN FAVOR?

17:15:36 ALL RIGHT.

17:15:36 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

17:15:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT, SIR.

17:15:38 MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

17:15:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RECEIVE AND FILE.

17:15:41 ALL RIGHT.

17:15:42 WE ARE ADJOURNED.



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