TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MARCH 17, 2022
9:00 A.M.
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09:05:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW COME
09:05:14 TO ORDER.
09:05:18 MARCH 17, 2022.
09:05:21 WHO HAS THE INVOCATION THIS MORNING?
09:05:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DO, SIR.
09:05:25 INSTEAD OF HAVING SOMEONE GIVE THE INVOCATION THIS
09:05:25 MORNING.
09:05:28 THE FIRST DAY BACK IN PERSON IN CHAMBERS.
09:05:33 WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE
09:05:35 ESPECIALLY FOR THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE.
09:05:36 I KNOW WE HAVE ALL BEEN FOLLOWING THIS.
09:05:40 I DIDN'T WEAR GREEN TODAY, BUT I WORE MY TIE, WHICH IS
09:05:42 BLUE AND YELLOW, TO SIGNIFY THE COLORS OF THEIR FLAG.
09:05:46 I CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH, AND I KNOW
09:05:48 THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING AND FOR THAT I ASK FOR A
09:06:01 MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH.
09:06:09 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:06:24 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:06:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
09:06:29 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:06:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:06:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:06:33 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:06:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:06:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:06:38 >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:06:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, DEPUTY CLERK.
09:06:42 MR. SHELBY.
09:06:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY.
09:06:48 A VIEW I HAVE NOT SEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME FROM THIS
09:06:48 ANGLE.
09:06:52 WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC, AS COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID.
09:06:55 THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING IN TWO YEARS THAT THE PUBLIC
09:06:58 IS BACK IN CITY COUNCIL'S CHAMBERS.
09:07:01 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO STATE IS THAT THE PUBLIC AND THE
09:07:03 CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH, LISTEN AND VIEW
09:07:07 THIS MEETING ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640, FRONTIER CHANNEL
09:07:12 15, AND ON THE WEB AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:07:17 NOW. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND IN PERSON IN CITY
09:07:21 COUNCIL CHAMBERS IN OLD CITY HALL OR PURSUANT TO
09:07:24 COUNCIL'S MOTION, PARTICIPATE IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING
09:07:27 BY USING WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS FLORIDA STATUTES
09:07:30 AS COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, THE SAME TECHNOLOGY
09:07:34 FOR VIRTUAL AND HYBRID MEETINGS THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS
09:07:36 BEEN USING SINCE THE PANDEMIC STARTED.
09:07:39 NOW THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE TO SPEAK REMOTELY DURING
09:07:45 PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE USE OF CMT, PREREGISTRATION IS
09:07:48 REQUIRED, AND THOSE INSTRUCTIONS ARE NOTICED IN THE
09:07:52 NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC MEETING, ALSO WITHIN THE AGENDA,
09:07:56 AND ON CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AT
09:08:00 TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.
09:08:02 TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY IN TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARINGS
09:08:07 USING CMT, PREREGISTRATION WAS ALSO REQUIRED TOO.
09:08:10 AND THAT IS AVAILABLE -- THE INSTRUCTIONS AGAIN ARE
09:08:13 AVAILABLE IN THE NOTICE AND IN THE AGENDA AND ON THE
09:08:15 CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE.
09:08:17 NOW PLEASE NOTE THAT IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN QUASI
09:08:21 JUDICIAL MATTERS VIA CMT.
09:08:28 SMARTPHONES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE
09:08:30 ACCESS TO VIDEO AND AUDIO WHICH IS REQUIRED.
09:08:33 THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL ASK CITY COUNCIL
09:08:36 TO WAIVE THE RULES TO ALLOW THE CONTINUED USE OF CMT.
09:08:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO ADOPT.
09:08:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE.
09:08:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
09:08:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:08:44 ANY OPPOSED.
09:08:45 MOTION GRANTED.
09:08:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:08:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, TOUGH AGENDA ITEMS.
09:08:55 MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, YOU WILL PUT EVERYBODY ON A TIMER,
09:08:56 INCLUDING CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:08:59 WE HAVE A LIST AND WE WILL GET RIGHT TO IT.
09:09:01 MULTITUDE OF PEOPLE TO SPEAK.
09:09:03 I WILL CALL IT OUT BY NUMBER.
09:09:06 THOSE PEOPLE WILL COME UP AND SPEAK AT THAT TIME, MR.
09:09:06 SHELBY.
09:09:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
09:09:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:09:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE TALKING THE APPROVAL OF THE
09:09:14 AGENDA.
09:09:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOUSEKEEPING AND APPROVAL OF THE
09:09:16 AGENDA.
09:09:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT I AM SUGGESTING, COUNCIL,
09:09:23 THAT PART OF THE HOUSEKEEPING OF THE AGENDA.
09:09:25 IF YOU CAN INCLUDE THAT.
09:09:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AS YOU WISH, SIR.
09:09:27 AS YOU WISH.
09:09:29 LET'S LOOK AT THE AGENDA.
09:09:31 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
09:09:35 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY QUICKLY IT IS OBVIOUS --
09:09:39 WE ARE MISSING ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES TODAY, AND I WILL SAY I
09:09:44 PERSONALLY WISH JOHN DINGFELDER AND HIS WIFE WELL AND
09:09:47 HOPE THEIR NIGHTMARE ENDS SOON.
09:09:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE LOST A TRUE FRIEND UP HERE.
09:09:51 TRUE FRIEND OF THE PEOPLE.
09:09:52 AGENDA.
09:09:55 MADAM DEPUTY CLERK.
09:09:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
09:09:58 DID YOU WANT TO DISCUSS ANY CHANGES, ADDITIONS,
09:10:02 DELETIONS, APPROVAL TO THE AGENDA?
09:10:04 YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR HOUSEKEEPING.
09:10:06 NOW IS THE TIME.
09:10:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE GOING TO -- A WALK-ON FOR THIS
09:10:12 AFTERNOON, CORRECT, SIR, MADAM CLERK?
09:10:14 >>CLERK: THAT IS CORRECT.
09:10:16 TWO WALK-ONS.
09:10:17 THEY ARE ON THE ADDENDUM.
09:10:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE FIRST WALK-ON IS THE MEMORANDUM
09:10:23 TRANSMITTING CITY COUNCIL'S APPOINTMENT POLICY AND
09:10:25 PROCEDURE GUIDELINES FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION
09:10:30 AND APPROVAL OF THE VACANCY THAT EXIST ON CITY COUNCIL.
09:10:32 DID YOU WANT TOO TAKE THAT UP AT THE END OF THE
09:10:33 MEETING?
09:10:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: END OF THE MEETING.
09:10:36 OUR BUSINESS.
09:10:37 THE END OF THE MEETING.
09:10:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
09:10:42 TAKEN UP AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
09:10:44 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TRANSMITTED A RESOLUTION THAT HE
09:10:46 MADE A MOTION ON IN THE PAST.
09:10:49 I CAN HAVE THAT COPIED AND DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL AND
09:10:51 TAKE THAT UP LATER, MR. MIRANDA.
09:10:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.
09:10:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO. YOU HAD MADE COMMENT, AGAIN,
09:10:59 WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:11:03 AND THE MOVING -- WAS THERE A DISCUSSION -- I AM SORRY,
09:11:04 ITEM 26.
09:11:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, I PULLED THAT ITEM.
09:11:10 I AM LOOKING AT HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS FOR THE
09:11:11 POLICE CHIEF NOMINEE.
09:11:16 WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 1, WHICH WILL BE NOW NUMBER
09:11:17 3 NOW.
09:11:20 MR. VIERA, I THINK HE IS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO
09:11:21 SCRATCH NUMBER 2.
09:11:23 MOVE NUMBER 3 UP TO NUMBER 1.
09:11:25 AND THEN GO TO THE POLICE CHIEF.
09:11:28 AND AS WE HEAR THE POLICE CHIEF, WE WILL THEN TAKE
09:11:29 PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:11:32 DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, I HAVE A LIST THAT KEEPS COMING
09:11:35 THAT I WILL GO DOWN THE LIST ONE THROUGH WHATEVER UNTIL WE
09:11:36 STOP.
09:11:39 AFTER THAT, WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 26 OR ANY
09:11:43 RECOMMENDATIONS RELATING TO THE POLICE CHIEF.
09:11:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED "THE RULES
09:11:47 OF PROCEDURE," AND I AM NOT QUESTIONING ANYTHING YOU
09:11:50 SAID, BUT I WISH THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL LOOK --
09:11:53 THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT RULES AND
09:11:56 PROCEDURES TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS IN CORRECT ORDER.
09:11:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AS YOU WISH, SIR.
09:12:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL CERTAINLY DO THAT.
09:12:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK IT WAS SUBMITTED IN 2019.
09:12:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE RULES --
09:12:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- OF PROCEDURE.
09:12:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARDS TO --
09:12:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE PROCESS WE ARE GOING THROUGH
09:12:13 TODAY.
09:12:13 PROCESS.
09:12:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE SECTION OF
09:12:17 THE CHART?
09:12:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, REFERRING TO JUST THE RULES.
09:12:21 THE LITTLE THING HERE.
09:12:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
09:12:24 DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
09:12:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
09:12:29 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW WHATEVER RULES WE
09:12:34 MADE -- ADOPTED BACK MARCH 21, 2019, SIR.
09:12:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE.
09:12:39 MY UNDERSTANDING IS BASED ON MY ANALYSIS, I BELIEVE
09:12:40 YOU ARE.
09:12:44 AND ALSO MISS ZELMAN AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
09:12:48 DISCUSS AT LEAST THE PROCEDURES WITH REGARD TO ITEM 26.
09:12:51 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SIR.
09:12:52 PLEASE DO RAISE THEM.
09:12:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I FOUND THIS
09:12:58 LOOKING FOR SOMETHING ELSE FOR CHARLIE CRIST AND FELL
09:13:01 OUT OF THIS THING I HAVE IN MY POCKET HERE.
09:13:03 AND I JUST READ IT LAST NIGHT.
09:13:05 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS FOLLOWED.
09:13:09 I AM NOT QUESTIONING ANYTHING.
09:13:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MIRANDA RAISES AN EXCELLENT
09:13:12 POINT.
09:13:16 ANY TIME WITH A QUESTION OF THE PROCEDURE, CORRECT
09:13:19 PROCESS UNDER ROBERTS RULE OF ORDER IS TO MAKE A POINT
09:13:22 OF ORDER AND PRESENT THAT TO THE CHAIR.
09:13:25 AND WE CAN RESOLVE THE ISSUE.
09:13:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON
09:13:29 MOVING 26 UP?
09:13:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL,
09:13:33 THE TIME TO DO THAT IS DURING THE APPROVAL OF THE
09:13:36 AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM.
09:13:40 SO IF THERE IS ANY OBJECTION TO THAT, THE TIME TO RAISE
09:13:43 THAT BY COUNCIL IS NOW.
09:13:44 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I SIR?
09:13:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:13:47 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO BE CLEAR WHAT WE ARE DOING
09:13:48 HERE.
09:13:51 ARE WE LOOKING TO HAVING THE PRESENTATION DONE FIRST,
09:13:53 THEN PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN COUNCIL COMMENTS.
09:13:55 IS THAT WHAT WE ARE VOTING FOR?
09:13:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 26 WILL BE PULLED TO VOTE ON 26.
09:14:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE AGAIN, I AM NOT QUESTIONING
09:14:04 ONE -- ESPECIALLY THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY ON THE
09:14:08 RULES OF PROCEDURES THAT SAYS THE PUBLIC SPEAKS FIRST
09:14:11 AND THEN WE DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
09:14:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES --
09:14:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: UNDER -- LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND
09:14:16 IT.
09:14:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MEAN, I WAS TRYING TO DO IT THE
09:14:21 EASY WAY, BUT IF YOU PREFER --
09:14:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT QUESTIONING.
09:14:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO GET SOME KIND OF ORDER.
09:14:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT QUESTIONING YOU AT ALL,
09:14:28 SIR.
09:14:30 I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF
09:14:36 EVERYTHING -- UNDER RULE 3 -- UNDER RULE 3-B-2.
09:14:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 3-B-2.
09:14:43 THE ORDER OF BUSINESS, APPROVAL AND PUBLIC COMMENT,
09:14:48 CEREMONIAL AND WE CAN ASK -- CEREMONIAL ITEMS ARE
09:14:51 NORMALLY PLACED ON THE AGENDA WHICH IS TRADITIONALLY
09:14:52 BEEN THAT.
09:14:57 IT IS NOT IN YOUR -- THESE FRULS 2019, BUT HISTORICALLY
09:15:00 IT HAS BEEN UNDER THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
09:15:04 IF COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS TO HEAR THE PUBLIC FIRST, THEN
09:15:07 YOU CAN MOVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT UP TO ABOVE THE
09:15:10 CEREMONIALS, BUT CUSTOMARILY THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE.
09:15:13 I SHOULD POINT OUT, COUNCIL, WHAT --
09:15:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT MY PLEASURE, IT IS WHATEVER THE
09:15:18 RULES SAY.
09:15:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND, SIR.
09:15:27 CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND OR PRESENTATIONS ARE NOT ON
09:15:30 THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF THE TRANSACTION OF BUSINESS.
09:15:32 IT IS PLACED FIRST ON THE AGENDA.
09:15:37 THERE IS NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON ITEMS 1, 2 OR 3.
09:15:42 AND PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTES, THAT BEFORE A VOTE CAN
09:15:45 BE TAKEN, THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
09:15:46 SPEAK.
09:15:50 BEFORE THE COUNCIL TAKES FINAL ACTION ON SOMETHING.
09:15:58 SO THAT IS A RULE FROM.
09:16:02 I FORGOT THE YEAR BUT TOWARD THE END OF THE LAST DECADE
09:16:06 AN ADJUSTMENT OF THE COUNCIL'S RULES SECTION AND CHAPTER
09:16:08 286 TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
09:16:10 SPEAK BEFORE A VOTE IS TAKEN, AND THIS IS WHY
09:16:14 HISTORICALLY WE TAKE NO ACTION ON CEREMONIAL ACTIONS
09:16:27 UNTIL THE PUBLIC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
09:16:31 IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THEM YOU CAN DO THAT IN THE ORDER
09:16:33 OF THE AGENDA.
09:16:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:16:38 >>BILL CARLSON: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CEREMONIAL VERSUS
09:16:43 PUBLIC COMMENT OR TALKING OF THE ORDER OF THE POLICE
09:16:45 CHIEF NOMINEE SPEAKING BEFORE.
09:16:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CARLSON, THE ONLY THING I AM
09:16:50 TELLING YOU THIS CAME INTO MY HANDS FROM MY OWN HOUSE
09:16:53 THAT DIDN'T KNOW I HAD, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
09:16:56 UNDER THESE RULES THAT WERE ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION 246
09:17:02 FROM 2019, IT SAYS THE MEETINGS, RULE 3 AND GOES TO
09:17:05 B-2, THE FOLLOWING ORDER SHOULD BE CONCERNED IN A
09:17:07 TRANSACTION OF BUSINESS IN A REGULAR MEETING,
09:17:10 INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WAS DONE.
09:17:12 ROLL CALL AND THE MINUTES WERE DONE.
09:17:13 APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
09:17:17 PUBLIC COMMENT FOR MATTERS OTHER THAN PUBLIC HEARING.
09:17:19 THEN REQUEST FOR THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION AND
09:17:20 GOES ON AND ON.
09:17:24 ALL I AM SAYING I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES IN CASE
09:17:29 ANYONE IS DISSATISFIED, WE CAN ADDRESS IT WITH THE
09:17:29 RULE.
09:17:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE DISSATISFIED AND GO THE WAY IT
09:17:33 GOES.
09:17:37 I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO BE DISSATISFIED, BUT I AM TRYING
09:17:40 TO MAKE IT EASIER TO HAVE, NUMBER ONE, THE PUBLIC, AND
09:17:43 VOTE AND FOLLOW THE WAY WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE IT.
09:17:45 WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN?
09:17:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT MINE.
09:17:49 I WANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES OF PROCEDURES.
09:17:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA.
09:17:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
09:17:55 IF I MAY, UNIQUE PART OF THE PRESENTATION OF NUMBER ONE
09:17:57 IS RELATED TO A VOTE ON 26.
09:17:59 SO THERE IS AN ARGUMENT THEY SHOULD GO TOGETHER.
09:18:02 ANOTHER ISSUE MAY VERY WELL BE THE PRESENTATION MAY
09:18:05 TAKE LONGER, AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT BY MAKING IT
09:18:09 LONGER THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT TO GET --
09:18:11 OR MOVE BEFORE THE VOTE ULTIMATELY.
09:18:17 JUST ANOTHER CONSIDERATION.
09:18:21 AGAIN, VOTE ON IT AND SEE IF IT MOVES FORWARD.
09:18:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I ALWAYS WOULD WANT PUBLIC COMMENT
09:18:25 FIRST.
09:18:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY?
09:18:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT WE WILL DO, GENTLEMEN?
09:18:31 CONTINUE WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
09:18:33 GO AS THE AGENDA IS WRITTEN.
09:18:36 IT IS EASIER FOR ME.
09:18:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CLARIFICATION.
09:18:41 SO IS IT THE CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES WILL THEN MOVE TO
09:18:43 AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT, IS THAT CORRECT?
09:18:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, WE WILL GO BY THE AGENDA SINCE
09:18:49 PEOPLE SAID WE WILL GO BY THE AGENDA AND TAKE PUBLIC
09:18:51 COMMENT.
09:18:55 SO, I WAS TRYING MAKE IT A LITTLE SIMPLIFIED.
09:18:58 BUT MAKING SURE THE RULES ARE IN PLACE AND GO AHEAD AND
09:19:04 DO CEREMONIALS, NUMBER ONE WITH MISS O'CONNOR.
09:19:07 AND MR. VIERA, WHATEVER SCRATCH HE HAS AND THEN NUMBER
09:19:08 3, SIR.
09:19:10 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
09:19:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:19:16 >>LUIS VIERA: I TOLD THE GENTLEMAN FROM NUMBER 3 THAT
09:19:20 HE COULD BE NUMBER 1, VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA,
09:19:22 EIGHT MINUTES.
09:19:24 AGAIN, I LEAVE IT TO YOU, SIR.
09:19:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DECISION HAS BEEN MADE.
09:19:27 I AM GOING TO MAKE A DECISION.
09:19:29 POINT-BLANK.
09:19:34 NUMBER 3.
09:19:38 ANY OBJECTION OF MOVING NUMBER 3 TO NUMBER 1.
09:19:39 >> SAY THAT AGAIN?
09:19:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 3 TO NUMBER 1.
09:19:45 MR. VIERA, YOU WILL MAKE A MOTION TO SCRATCH NUMBER 2.
09:19:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
09:19:50 I MAKE THE MOTION THAT THE ABE BROWN MINISTRIES
09:19:55 RETURNING CITIZENS ORDINANCE BE REMOVED UNTIL APRIL 21,
09:19:55 2022.
09:19:57 BOTH THE PRESENTATION OF THE RETURNING CITIZENS AND THE
09:19:59 ORDINANCE, IF I MAY.
09:20:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
09:20:02 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:20:02 OPPOSED.
09:20:04 MOTION GRANTED.
09:20:06 AND TWO WAS TAKEN CARE OF.
09:20:09 THREE WILL GO TO NUMBER ONE AND ONE WILL GO TO NUMBER
09:20:09 THREE.
09:20:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THE PUBLIC IS CLEAR, YOU MENTIONED
09:20:13 ITEM 26.
09:20:15 WHEN DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT UP?
09:20:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT UP AFTER
09:20:19 PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:20:22 ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT, GENTLEMEN?
09:20:23 ANY OBJECTIONS?
09:20:27 26 WAS PULLED WILL BE TAKEN UP AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT,
09:20:27 SIR.
09:20:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDERSTOOD.
09:20:32 I WANT TO REFER TO THE COUNCIL'S RULES, RULE 4-K.
09:20:36 RULE 4-K THAT THE CHAIR SHOULD DECIDE ALL QUESTIONS OF
09:20:39 PROCEDURE AND ORDER AND THE DECISION SHALL STAND UNLESS
09:20:43 REVERSED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.
09:20:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY FOR THE
09:20:46 CLARIFICATION.
09:20:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH RESULT OF THAT, ANYTHING ELSE ON
09:20:51 THE AGENDA THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED.
09:20:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
09:20:56 >>BILL CARLSON: ITEM NUMBER 28.
09:20:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 20?
09:20:59 >>BILL CARLSON: 28.
09:21:02 I WANT TO PULL IT FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.
09:21:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO HAS SECONDED THAT.
09:21:06 OPPOSED, MOTION GRANTED.
09:21:08 28 HAD GO --
09:21:11 >>BILL CARLSON: 29 I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, AND WE
09:21:12 DON'T NEED TO PULL IT.
09:21:16 46 I WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR A SEPARATE VOTE ALSO,
09:21:16 PLEASE.
09:21:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 46, SEPARATE VOTE.
09:21:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANY OTHER CHANGES, DELETIONS,
09:21:29 COUNCIL?
09:21:30 AS AMENDED.
09:21:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE IT AS AMENDED.
09:21:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO HAS MOVED IT.
09:21:35 SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
09:21:36 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:21:37 OPPOSED.
09:21:38 MOTION GRANTED.
09:21:41 WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, GENTLEMEN.
09:21:44 MR. VIERA, YOU ARE UP, SIR.
09:21:46 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:21:55 I APPRECIATE IT.
09:21:58 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
09:22:03 IT IS VERY GLAD TO BE BACK AND SEE EVERYBODY TODAY.
09:22:05 A MOVIE BY THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA.
09:22:06 GO AHEAD.
09:26:06 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
09:26:09 I HAVE WITH ME HERE FOR A VERY BRIEF DISCUSSION HERE
09:26:14 TODAY ABOUT TWO MINUTES OR SO BECAUSE I KNOW OUR TIME
09:26:15 IS PRESSED TODAY.
09:26:18 COLONEL RON ROOK WHO IS HERE, THE WONDERFUL GENTLEMAN
09:26:20 OVER THERE ON THAT MOTORCYCLE.
09:26:28 WE HAVE AVI ZAMICHAS AND MICHAEL DELL, FORMER PRESIDENT
09:26:30 OF VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA.
09:26:32 JIM FLETCHER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE AND HAD A BROKEN
09:26:34 CAR.
09:26:35 GOD BLESS HIM.
09:26:38 GOLD STAR SISTER WHOSE BROTHER WAS UP IN THAT VIDEO
09:26:43 PAULA RODRIGUEZ, VICKY CARTER, AND OTHERS HERE
09:26:47 IN SUPPORT, AND I WANTED COLONEL ROOK TO COME UP AND
09:26:49 TALK ABOUT AN EVENT THAT HOPE EVERYBODY IN THE
09:26:53 COMMUNION TO COME AND START THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF
09:26:54 AMERICA.
09:26:59 >> YES, SATURDAY 26TH OF MARCH AT 9:00, THE VIETNAM
09:27:08 VETERANS OF AMERICA ARE PRESENTING A MEMORIAL TO THAT
09:27:11 PARK, VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK.
09:27:16 AT 10:00, WE ARE DOING OUR ANNUAL WELCOME HOME VIETNAM
09:27:19 VETERANS CELEBRATION.
09:27:25 SO, PLEASE PASS TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW WHO
09:27:30 ARE VIETNAM VETERANS, AND YOU COME OUT BECAUSE AS YOU
09:27:33 KNOW, WE WERE NOT WELCOMED BACK HOME WHEN WE CAME BACK
09:27:35 FROM VIETNAM.
09:27:40 SO COME OUT AND WELCOME US NOW.
09:27:41 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
09:27:44 IF YOU MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF IT DOESN'T BREAK THE
09:27:47 QUORUM, LET'S GIVE OUR VIETNAM VETERANS A HAND.
09:27:47 [APPLAUSE]
09:27:58 THANK YOU.
09:28:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
09:28:05 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO, FIRST OF ALL, THANK
09:28:08 COUNCILMEMBER VIERA FOR BRINGING YOU HERE.
09:28:10 AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SERVICE AND THE
09:28:12 VIETNAM VETERANS FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:28:16 I GREW UP IN THE VIETNAM WAR WATCHING ON TV, AND I CAN'T
09:28:18 IMAGINE WHAT YOU ALL WENT THROUGH AND I THANK YOU SO
09:28:19 MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:28:24 I -- SOME FOLKS KNOW I LIVED IN SINGAPORE FIVE YEARS,
09:28:28 WHATEVER FEEDBACK YOU GOT, SINGAPORE THEY VERY MUCH
09:28:29 APPRECIATED YOU ALL.
09:28:32 IF YOU HAD NOT STOPPED WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN VIETNAM,
09:28:39 IT WOULD HAVE GONE TO MALAYSIA AND SINGAPORE.
09:28:42 THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
09:28:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
09:28:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST AND FOREMOST, WELCOME HOME.
09:28:50 I HAVE A DEEP RESPECT FOR VIETNAM VETERANS, FOR THE
09:28:53 SACRIFICE YOU MADE FOR THIS COUNTRY WHETHER YOU WERE
09:28:55 DRAFTED OR SIGNED UP.
09:28:57 YOU ARE HEROES.
09:28:58 AND I WANT TO YOU KNOW THAT.
09:29:01 I HAD THE HONOR OF MEETING SO MANY VIETNAM VETERANS
09:29:02 OVER THE YEARS.
09:29:05 TWO YEARS AGO, I WAS WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA AND HAD THE
09:29:11 HONOR OF SITTING NEXT TO ROGER DONLON AND HIS WIFE AND
09:29:18 THE FIRST MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENT FROM 1964 AND '65.
09:29:20 AND IN A ROOM WITH SO MANY HEROES.
09:29:22 WHENEVER I GO TO WASHINGTON D.C. I MAKE A POINT TO
09:29:24 VISIT THE WALL.
09:29:26 IT IS ESPECIALLY POWERFUL AT NIGHT.
09:29:30 I LEFT MY HOTEL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO GO LOOK
09:29:33 AT THE LINCOLN MEMORIAL AND I WALKED TO THE WALL.
09:29:37 SEEING THOSE NAMES, 58,000-PLUS NAMES AND SO MANY THAT
09:29:38 CAME FROM THIS AREA.
09:29:42 FOR THOSE WHO KNOW ME, MY FRIENDS AND WHATNOT, I LIKE
09:29:44 TO VISIT CEMETERIES ESPECIALLY HERE IN THE CITY OF
09:29:48 TAMPA WHERE MY GRANDPARENTS ARE BURIED.
09:29:53 THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY VIETNAM VETERAN SOLDIERS THOSE
09:29:57 WHO DIED AT 18, 19, 20 YEARS OLD.
09:30:01 I MAKE A POINT TO LEAVE A FLAG AT THEIR GRAVE SITE TO
09:30:06 LET THEM KNOW THEY ARE NOT ONLY APPRECIATED BY FAMILY
09:30:08 AND FRIENDS BUT THE NEW GENERATION, PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T
09:30:12 KNOW THEM, AND KNOW THAT THEY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.
09:30:14 THANK YOU, AND AN HONOR YOU ARE HERE WITH US TODAY.
09:30:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.
09:30:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU.
09:30:27 THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF OUR MILITARY FORCE WHO
09:30:28 SERVED IN THE USELESS WAR.
09:30:33 BECAUSE OF YOUR BRAVERY AND OTHERS LIKE YOU THAT KNEW
09:30:36 THE DUTY THEY HAD TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY, I
09:30:39 SAY THANK YOU FOR MY FREEDOMS.
09:30:41 THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
09:30:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR.
09:30:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FIRST OF ALL, MY APOLOGIES THAT I
09:30:48 CANNOT BE THERE SATURDAY AT 9:00.
09:30:55 I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT WITH A THING CALLED J-O-B, JOB.
09:30:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:30:59 YOU LOOK BACK AT HISTORY AND REALIZE THAT DEMOCRACY IS
09:31:00 NOT FREE.
09:31:02 JUST COMPARE WHAT WE HERE IN AMERICA HAVE AND COMPARE
09:31:05 IT WITH ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
09:31:09 WE TAKE A LOT OF THINGS FOR GRANTED, BUT WE FORGET THE
09:31:13 PRICE WE PAID FOR HAVING THAT RIGHT TO SPEAK, TO HAVE A
09:31:13 DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.
09:31:16 WHEN YOU LOOK AT RIGHT NOW WHEN SOMEBODY IN THE NEWS
09:31:20 MEDIA AND ANOTHER COUNTRY PUTS UP A SIGN AND GETS
09:31:22 HAULED YOU OFF TO JAIL.
09:31:26 THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN HERE THAT OFTEN, IF NOT AT ALL.
09:31:28 IT SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING.
09:31:31 THANK YOU FOR THE SACRIFICES THAT YOUR GENERATION MADE.
09:31:34 IT IS NOT ONLY THOSE WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES, BUT THE
09:31:37 LIVES THAT WERE HOME THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT LIFE TO
09:31:41 LIVE WITHOUT THOSE MEN AND WOMEN WHO PERISHED.
09:31:45 THOSE ARE THE CONSOLING FACTOR OF DEMOCRACY.
09:31:47 IT IS NOT FREE.
09:31:48 IT IS VERY COSTLY.
09:31:51 I NEVER FORGET I WAS IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY NOT TOO LONG
09:31:52 AGO FIVE YEARS AGO.
09:31:53 I WAS IN A CAB.
09:31:55 AND A MAN ASKED ME HOW IS AMERICA.
09:31:57 I SAID WE ARE GOING THROUGH A LITTLE BUMP IN THE ROAD.
09:32:01 HE SAID YOUR HUMP IN THE ROAD WILL GET BETTER, BUT THE
09:32:02 HUMP THAT IS HERE WILL GET WORSE.
09:32:05 THOSE WORDS WERE JUST CHILLING TO ME AND I WANT TO
09:32:09 THANK YOU EACH AND OVER ONE OF YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE
09:32:09 DONE.
09:32:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:32:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, GENTLEMEN, WE THANK YOU FOR
09:32:13 YOUR SERVICE, OF COURSE.
09:32:18 AS YOU LOOK AT THE VIDEO, I SEE GENTLEMEN -- TWO OR
09:32:20 THREE THINK THAT KNOW PERSONALLY.
09:32:23 MR. VIERA, WE ALSO ARE DELIGHTED WHEN YOU BRING
09:32:29 HISTORICAL DATA AND INFORMATION TO IN COUNCIL.
09:32:35 I AM GLAD YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THIS WITH OUR NEW TIME
09:32:38 SLOTS, THIS WAS VALUABLE TO SEE AND WATCH THESE
09:32:40 GENTLEMEN AND JUST TO BE ABLE TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW
09:32:42 THAT WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE,
09:32:45 GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE FOR THIS COUNTRY.
09:32:47 GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.
09:32:49 >> THANK YOU.
09:32:51 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.
09:32:52 >> I WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT VIETNAM VETERANS
09:32:56 ARE DYING AT THE RATE OF 600 A DAY.
09:33:01 AND ALSO, SOME OF THOSE VETERANS FROM VIETNAM THAT WERE
09:33:05 IN THAT FILM HAVE DIED OF AGENT ORANGE.
09:33:05 THANK YOU.
09:33:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
09:33:09 THANK YOU, MR. VIERA.
09:33:11 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:33:16 APPRECIATE IT.
09:33:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA IS WALKING OUT TO TAKE HIS
09:33:22 PHOTO SHOT AND WILL BE BACK SHORTLY.
09:33:28 FOLLOWING THE AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 2 WAS REMOVED.
09:33:30 WE HEARD FROM ITEM NUMBER 3.
09:33:35 NOW WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 1.
09:33:40 MR. BENNETT?
09:33:41 >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN.
09:33:43 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:33:45 JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
09:33:47 GOOD MORNING TO THE COMMUNITY.
09:33:50 SO NICE TO SEE US BACK IN CHAMBERS WITH FRIENDS AND
09:33:52 COLLEAGUES THAT SERVED IN FIRST RESPONDER ROLES AND
09:33:55 PEOPLE HERE CELEBRATING THEIR BIRTHDAY.
09:33:57 WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT.
09:33:59 CHAIRMAN, IF IT IS THE WILL AND THE PLEASURE OF
09:34:02 COUNCIL, WE ARE WILLING TO DEFER TO PUBLIC COMMENT
09:34:04 UNTIL ITEM 26.
09:34:07 AND THEN THAT WAY WE DON'T TIE UP TIME WITH TWO
09:34:09 PRESENTATIONS, ONE FOR THAT AND ONE FOR 26.
09:34:12 IF THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
09:34:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:34:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
09:34:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION AND SECOND.
09:34:17 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:34:18 OPPOSED.
09:34:18 MOTION GRANTED.
09:34:20 WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:34:24 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:34:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER ONE.
09:34:28 WE HAVE A LIST HERE OF NUMBERED FOLKS TO SPEAK -- I AM
09:34:32 SORRY, MADAM DEPUTY CLERK WANTS TO GO TO VIRTUAL FIRST.
09:34:34 WE WILL GO TO VIRTUAL CLERK.
09:34:36 THAT IS WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO.
09:34:37 SHE IS IN CHARGE.
09:34:40 >>CLERK: THANK YOU, THE FIRST SPEAKER IS MICHAEL
09:34:44 RANDOLPH, AND IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
09:34:45 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:34:46 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:34:51 MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH, WEST TAMPA.
09:34:59 LAST YEAR, 50% OF FOLKS ARRESTED WERE ARRESTED FOR
09:34:59 GUNS.
09:35:01 VIOLENT CRIME UP 30% IN OUR CITY.
09:35:06 PEOPLE ARE DYING AT A RATE THAT IS RIDICULOUS.
09:35:11 TALKING OF STRATEGY OF HOW WE TURN THE AGENDA AROUND.
09:35:13 I REQUEST THAT SHE IS OPEN TO THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE TO
09:35:17 LOOK AT A NEW WAY TO DEAL WITH VIOLENCE.
09:35:18 I AM NOT ABOUT ORGANIZATION.
09:35:20 I AM NOT ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
09:35:24 I AM ABOUT SOLUTIONS.
09:35:28 TO LOOK AT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE, I SHARED WITH HER A
09:35:30 DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT
09:35:31 DOES WORK.
09:35:37 I ALSO SHARED WITH HER ABOUT A NEW APPROACH TO POLICING
09:35:39 TO INCREASE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN COMMUNITY.
09:35:44 UNDER THIS MODEL, OFFICERS WILL HAVE RESOURCE ARE, FOR
09:35:52 EXAMPLE, FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE RESOURCES AND ALL THAT
09:35:54 STUFF WILL BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY STRATEGY.
09:35:57 I ALSO SPOKE TO NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.
09:36:00 BECAUSE I DON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT -- I WENT TO THE
09:36:01 NEIGHBORHOOD IN WEST.
09:36:06 TIME IN SUPPORT OF THE CHIEF BECAUSE GOING TO LOOK AT
09:36:09 IT IN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND LOOK AT THIS IN A
09:36:11 PERSPECTIVE OF NEW EYES.
09:36:15 FOR EXAMPLE, CAN HE CAN'T CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME OL'
09:36:18 SAME OL' AND EXPECT THE SAME RESULTS.
09:36:21 I SUPPORT THE APPOINTMENT BECAUSE NOW WE CAN LOOK AT
09:36:27 WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND THE COUNTRY AND SO WE CAN STOP
09:36:28 THE VIOLENCE.
09:36:29 THANK YOU.
09:36:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:36:34 >>CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER, BISHOP MICHELLE PATTY.
09:36:36 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
09:36:40 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:36:42 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:36:45 I AM BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
09:36:47 I AM ACTUALLY OUT OF TOWN, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY
09:36:49 IMPORTANT TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER.
09:36:52 28 YEARS AGO, CHIEF MARY O'CONNOR WAS GIVEN A SECOND
09:36:52 CHANCE.
09:36:56 SHE USED THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AND PROTECT THE CITY
09:37:00 RISING -- RISING THROUGH THE RANKS TO RETIRE AS
09:37:02 ASSISTANT CHIEF.
09:37:03 ONE STEP FROM BEING THE CHIEF.
09:37:06 TAMPA IS UNIQUE.
09:37:10 OUR MAYOR, MAYOR JANE CASTOR SERVED AS CHIEF.
09:37:14 MAYOR JANE CASTOR KNOW WHAT IS WE NEED TO MOVE THIS
09:37:17 COMMUNITY FORWARD AND THAT IS CHIEF O'CONNOR.
09:37:21 CHIEF O'CONNOR HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, FBI EXPERIENCE.
09:37:23 SHE HAS BEEN IN OTHER CITIES AND BEING AROUND THE
09:37:24 COUNTRY.
09:37:28 SO WITH CHIEF O'CONNOR, WE BRING AN UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE.
09:37:31 SHE IS ABLE TO PROCESS AND DO THINGS ON A DIFFERENT
09:37:32 LEVEL.
09:37:36 SO THAT'S WHY I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF CHIEF MARY
09:37:37 O'CONNOR.
09:37:40 WE ASKED THAT FELONS BE GIVEN A SECOND CHANCE.
09:37:42 AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY.
09:37:46 BECAUSE WHEN A SECOND CHANCE, LOOK WHAT A PERSON CAN
09:37:47 DO.
09:37:48 THEY CAN SOAR TO THE TOP.
09:37:52 WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHEN THINGS HAVE GONE
09:37:55 WRONG YEARS AND YEARS AGO, 28 YEARS AGO, THAT IS LONG
09:37:56 ENOUGH.
09:38:00 BUT PEOPLE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THERE IS
09:38:02 CHILDREN KILLING CHILDREN IN THE STREETS OF TAMPA.
09:38:04 BLOOD IS FLOWING IN THE STREETS.
09:38:07 [GAVEL SOUNDING]
09:38:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: POINT OF ORDER.
09:38:11 >> WE NEED SOMEONE TO TAKE CHARGE.
09:38:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME SAY SOMETHING.
09:38:17 BEFORE OR AGAINST THE NOMINEE, WE WILL HAVE SILENCE IN
09:38:18 THIS CHAMBERS.
09:38:21 WHEN YOUR CHANCE TO SPEAK, YOU WILL SPEAK.
09:38:23 YOU WILL GIVE YOUR COMMENT AND RESPECT EVERYONE ELSE.
09:38:27 IF YOU DO NOT, I WILL HAVE YOU REMOVED BY MR. TALLY,
09:38:28 OUR OFFICER OF THE ROOM.
09:38:30 AM I CLEAR, MR. TALLY?
09:38:31 >> YES.
09:38:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, WE WILL PROCEED.
09:38:42 >>CLERK: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
09:38:45 SPEAKER IS JEAN STROHMEYER.
09:38:47 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:38:47 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:38:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, WE CAN.
09:38:54 >> HELLO, EVERYBODY, JEAN STROHMEYER HERE TODAY.
09:38:57 FIRST, I WANT TO JUST SAY ABOUT DINGFELDER ISSUE.
09:38:59 I THINK THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED.
09:39:05 AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT WAS A LOADED EVENT
09:39:09 FOR MR. DINGFELDER, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
09:39:10 IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN LIKE THAT.
09:39:14 AND I BELIEVE THE GOOD -- THE PEOPLE BEHIND THAT JUST
09:39:16 DID DO THAT FOR POLITICAL REASONS TO GET HIS VOTE
09:39:18 SILENCED.
09:39:21 AND THEY SUCCEEDED IN THAT BATTLE BUT NOT IN THE WAR,
09:39:24 BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF LITTLE SOLDIERS OUT HERE
09:39:26 THAT ARE FIGHTING FOR OUR CITY.
09:39:29 SO BACK TO THE AGENDA.
09:39:32 A LOT OF THE AGENDA, I SEE A BUNCH OF THESE CONTRACTS
09:39:32 AND VOTES.
09:39:36 I -- WE HAVE FOUND THAT SOME OF THESE CONTRACTS AND
09:39:40 BIDS SHOW UP IN LITTLE NEWSPAPER THAT NOBODY EVER HEARD
09:39:44 OF AND OTHERS SHOW UP IN THE BIG NEWSPAPER.
09:39:46 THERE ARE SOME CONTRACTS THAT NEVER GET A CHANCE TO
09:39:48 MAKE A BID TO THE CITY.
09:39:51 SO ALL THESE PUBLICATIONS FOR THE BIDS ON CONTRACTS
09:39:55 NEED TO BE UP FRONT FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE.
09:39:57 EVERYBODY SHOULD GET A CHANCE TO BID ON IT.
09:40:00 AS FAR AS THE NEW POLICE CHIEF, I DON'T KNOW HER.
09:40:05 BUT JUST -- TOO MANY THINGS THAT DIDN'T SEEM RIGHT TO A
09:40:05 LOT OF PEOPLE.
09:40:08 YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE NEWSPAPER.
09:40:09 THEY DIDN'T FEEL THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING.
09:40:12 I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE VETTED A LITTLE BIT MORE.
09:40:15 THE 28 ON THE AGENDA, I DON'T KNOW IF I WILL GET TO
09:40:18 SPEAK ON THAT LATER BUT BLOOMBERG CONSULTING IS A
09:40:23 VERY BIASED CONSULTING FIRM OUT OF NEW YORK.
09:40:25 THEY ARE OUT OF DELAWARE.
09:40:29 AND BLOOMBERG THE BILLIONAIRE THAT WE WANT TO NOW RUN
09:40:30 OUR CITY BEHIND THE SCENES.
09:40:33 WE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
09:40:36 32, LICENSE PLATE READERS.
09:40:38 Y'ALL KEEP BRINGING THE BIG BROTHER TO THE CITY OF
09:40:39 TAMPA.
09:40:40 NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.
09:40:44 BACK TO THE BLOOMBERG, WE NEED TO SEPARATE THE DUTIES,
09:40:47 THE MAYOR HAS A LOT OF POWER AND MORE LIKE A
09:40:49 DICTATORSHIP LIKE WE ARE SEEING.
09:40:51 WE NEED THE CITY COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB AND
09:40:54 SEPARATE THE POWERS SO EVERYBODY HAS A VOICE.
09:40:58 35 AND 36, YOU HAVE GTTE.
09:41:00 LEASING FROM GTE.
09:41:02 THE CITY OF TAMPA OWNS THE LOT OR PROPERTY.
09:41:04 I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF MONEY WE ARE SPENDING ON
09:41:08 THAT, BUT HOPE -- IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO.
09:41:11 NUMBER 62, THE TENANT'S BILL OF RIGHTS.
09:41:13 AGAIN, I THINK THAT IS A BAD IDEA BECAUSE IT WILL PUT
09:41:17 OTHER PEOPLE AT RISK OF HAVING TO ANSWER TO GOVERNMENT
09:41:21 RATHER THAN THEIR OWN PRIVATE CONTRACT BETWEEN TWO
09:41:21 INDIVIDUALS.
09:41:25 47 AND 48, THERE IS A LOT OF PAYOUTS THAT GO INTO THE
09:41:28 YEAR 2030 HERE.
09:41:32 SO WE WILL BURDEN OUR FUTURE WITH DEBT UP TO THE YEAR
09:41:34 2030.
09:41:35 IT LOOKED BAD TO ME.
09:41:37 CAN YOU ALL LOOK INTO THOSE.
09:41:40 63, I DON'T KNOW IF I AM ALLOWED TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT
09:41:44 ONE, BUT VOTE NO ON THAT PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT
09:41:45 AMENDMENT.
09:41:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN, THAT IS DURING THE PUBLIC
09:41:50 HEARING IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THAT, YOU HAVE THAT
09:41:52 OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WISH.
09:41:52 >> THANK YOU.
09:41:56 THOSE THE THINGS, PLEASE.
09:41:58 BLOCK EVERYTHING AND I APPRECIATE IT.
09:41:59 HAVE A GREAT DAY.
09:42:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, JEAN.
09:42:05 >>CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER IS LORRAINE PERINO.
09:42:07 IF YOU HEAR ME, UNMUTE YOURSELF.
09:42:12 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:42:17 >> GOOD MORNING, I AM LORRAINE PERINO, I WAS BORN AT
09:42:19 THE HOSPITAL IN BAYSHORE.
09:42:22 I AM A THIRD GENERATION HISPANIC UNTIL RECENTLY WAS
09:42:24 PROUD OF MY CITY.
09:42:27 HISPANICS COMPRISE 25% OF POPULATION.
09:42:33 AND JANE CASTOR HAS ZERO LEVEL HISPANICS IN MANAGEMENT.
09:42:35 IT SHOWS GREAT DISRESPECT TO THEM.
09:42:43 PROMOTING REUBEN DELGADO, A CAREER HISPANIC, TO POLICE
09:42:46 CHIEF WAS A WAY TO HELP THIS INJUSTICE.
09:42:48 SHE DIDN'T.
09:42:51 DELGADO WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE.
09:42:54 HE HAD THE SUPPORT OF THE ENTIRE HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND
09:42:55 OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
09:43:01 CASTOR SHOULD HAVE IN GOOD FAITH HELP THE DEFICIT OF
09:43:07 HISPANICS HER IN ADMINISTRATION.
09:43:13 LED A CERTIFICATION LAPSE AND UNQUALIFIED TO RUN THE
09:43:13 POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:43:15 CONTENTIOUS PASS.
09:43:18 ARREST WITH DUI AND ASSAULT OF A POLICE OFFICER FOR
09:43:20 WHICH SHE WAS FIRED.
09:43:23 AND CREATED A POLICY SO RACIALLY UNFAIR THAT WAS CITED
09:43:25 BY THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
09:43:32 THIS LOSE, LOSE, LOSE WHO JANE CASTOR SELECTED TO LEAD
09:43:37 THE TAMPA'S FINEST.
09:43:39 ALL OF THIS IS VERY DISTURBING TO ME.
09:43:42 I HARDLY RECOGNIZE TAMPA GOVERNMENT ANYMORE.
09:43:45 STAFF IS ORDER TO READ CITY COUNCIL PRIVATE E-MAILS,
09:43:49 BUT YET, ONE OF YOU A CITY ATTORNEY IS ACCUSED OF
09:43:51 VIOLATING THE SUNSHINE LAWS.
09:43:55 CASTOR SELECTED SOMEONE TOTALLY INADEQUATE FOR THE
09:43:58 CHIEF'S JOB PASSING OVER A QUALIFIED HISPANIC.
09:44:02 ONE OF YOU COUNCIL VIOLATED TO FORCED RESIGN IN A
09:44:07 SHODDY LAWSUIT BY THE SHODDY DEEP INTEREST GROUP.
09:44:11 THE ALICE AND WONDERLAND UPSIDE DOWN AND BACKWARDS OR
09:44:14 PUTIN'S RUSSIA.
09:44:17 THE SKETCHY HANNA STREET CONTRACT, THE HIGHLY
09:44:21 UNPOPULATED PURE PROPOSAL THAT THE CITY RUNS DOWN OUR
09:44:22 THROAT.
09:44:25 LATEST SHOCK, A DEDICATED CITY COUNCILMEMBER WHO WORKED
09:44:28 TIRELESSLY AND CONSERVE THE CHARACTER AND IMPORTANCE OF
09:44:32 OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND ECOSYSTEMS HAS BEEN RAILROADED
09:44:35 INTO RESIGNING AS THE MAYOR'S CITY ATTORNEY REFUSES TO
09:44:37 DEFEND HIM.
09:44:39 THINGS ARE GOING DOWN FAST.
09:44:44 IF HE ISN'T RIGHTFULLY APPOINTED TO CHIEF, REUBEN
09:44:48 DELGADO SHOULD SUE THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR WORKPLACE
09:44:48 DISCRIMINATION.
09:44:50 IT IS ILLEGAL UNDER FEDERAL LAW.
09:44:55 I TOO WAS A VICTIM OF WORKPLACE DISCRIMINATION.
09:44:57 I FILED IN COURT AND I WON.
09:45:00 FOR THE LEADERSHIP THAT IS CURRENTLY LACKING IN CITY
09:45:00 GOVERNMENT.
09:45:07 VOTE NO TO O'CONNOR AND INSIST THAT REUBEN DELGADO BE
09:45:08 PROMOTED TO CHIEF.
09:45:11 HE DESERVE IT IS AND THE COMMUNITY DOES TOO.
09:45:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:45:14 [APPLAUSE]
09:45:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO APPLAUSE, FOLKS.
09:45:17 AGAIN, EVERYBODY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
09:45:23 >>CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER IS CAROLYN WENDY EISLER.
09:45:26 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE
09:45:27 THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:45:33 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS AND STAFF, I LIVE
09:45:33 IN SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
09:45:35 I AM SPEAKING WITH YOU TO VOICE MY CONCERN REGARDING
09:45:40 THE PROCESS OF THE NOMINATION OF MARY ELIZABETH
09:45:42 O'CONNOR AS TAMPA POLICE CHIEF.
09:45:46 MY MAIN CONCERN IS THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN THE
09:45:50 SEARCH AND SELECTION, THE ELECTION PROCESS AND NOW THE
09:45:53 RUSH TO INSTALL AN UNCONFIRMED NOMINEE TO THE ROLE.
09:45:58 SO WHY WAS OUR SEARCH NET CAST SO NARROW.
09:46:02 WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE PROCESS OF A LOCAL NEWSPAPER, CITY
09:46:05 OF TAMPA COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR SAID THAT THE SEARCH
09:46:06 WAS NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
09:46:09 IN ADDITION, HE SAID HE WAS UNABLE TO PROVIDE A LIST OF
09:46:11 THE CANDIDATES PRESENTED FOR THE JOB.
09:46:14 THE PROCESS WHICH APPARENTLY NETTED THREE VIABLE
09:46:17 CANDIDATES WAS LARGELY CONDUCTED IN THE DARK AND OUT OF
09:46:18 THE PUBLIC EYE.
09:46:21 LACK OF ACCESS TO THE CANDIDATES LEFT THE PUBLIC WITH
09:46:24 NO CLEAR INSIGHT INTO WHAT EACH OF THE VISIONS WERE FOR
09:46:26 THE ROLE OF TAMPA POLICE CHIEF, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY
09:46:30 FOR THE IDEAS OF HOW TO IMPROVE THE RELATIONSHIPS
09:46:32 BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THE POLICE FORCE
09:46:37 WHICH WAS LARGELY DAMAGED IN THE DEBACLE AND THE
09:46:42 MISHANDLING OF BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTERS.
09:46:45 THESE NOT WITHSTANDING.
09:46:48 NOMINATE MARY O'CONNOR, A FORMER TAMPA POLICE
09:46:49 DEPARTMENT COLLEAGUE WHICH HAS NOT BEEN A POLICE
09:46:50 OFFICER IN TAMPA FOR OVER FIVE YEARS.
09:46:56 THIS IS CERTAINLY A DETRIMENT FOR A INCOMING LOCAL
09:46:59 LEADER.
09:47:02 WHICH BEGS THE QUESTION IS MARY O'CONNOR UNDER STANDS
09:47:04 THE CITY OF TAMPA NEEDS AND CHALLENGES.
09:47:07 DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE MAYOR HAS THE POWER TO
09:47:11 APPOINT A NEW POLICE CHIEF, THE CITY CHARTER SAYS FOUR
09:47:14 OF THE CITY COUNCIL SEVEN MEMBERS VOTE TO CONFIRM THE
09:47:16 MAYOR'S SELECTION.
09:47:19 AND YET MARY O'CONNOR HAS ALSO BEEN ACTED IN THAT
09:47:22 CAPACITY WITHOUT CONFIRMATION.
09:47:24 SHE HAS BEEN INTRODUCED AS CHIEF OF POLICE IN EVERY
09:47:25 OPPORTUNITY.
09:47:31 THIS FEELS LIKE USURPLE AND NOT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE
09:47:32 SELECTED.
09:47:35 WE HAVE AN INTERIM POLICE CHIEF.
09:47:37 WHY HASTEN THE CAREFUL AND CONSIDERATION OF THE BEST
09:47:38 POSSIBLE CANDIDATE.
09:47:41 DON'T WE UNDERSTAND THAT WHO WE CHOOSE TO ULTIMATELY
09:47:45 SERVE IN THIS ROLE MATTERS A GREAT DEAL.
09:47:47 BOTH NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.
09:47:49 AFTER A YOU WILL A FORMER TAMPA CHIEF OF POLICE IS NOW
09:47:50 OUR MAYOR.
09:47:54 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK MAY YOU ACT
09:47:57 TO ALLAY THE CONCERNS OF CONSTITUENTS IN THIS IMPORTANT
09:47:59 MATTER.
09:48:02 >>CLERK: LAST SPEAKER WE HAVE IS MISS FRAN TATE, AND IF
09:48:06 YOU CAN HEAR ME, MISS TATE, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO
09:48:07 SPEAK.
09:48:20 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
09:48:21 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME.
09:48:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MISS TATE.
09:48:27 >> I AM ASSISTANT CRIME WATCH COORDINATOR.
09:48:31 GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:48:35 IT WAS REQUESTED FOR CHIEF O'CONNOR TO VISIT THE
09:48:40 COMMUNITY SO WE GET TO HEAR FROM HER AND SHE GETS TO
09:48:41 HEAR FROM US.
09:48:46 ON THE 28TH OF FEBRUARY, THE CRIME WATCH GROUP ATTENDED
09:48:49 A COMMUNITY FORUM ADDRESSING VIOLENT CRIME AT THE
09:48:50 UNIVERSITY.
09:48:53 CHIEF O'CONNOR WAS THERE.
09:48:58 SHE LISTENED ATTENTIVELY TO OUR CONCERNS.
09:49:02 WITH THE HELP OF THE COMMUNITY, SEE SOMETHING, SAY
09:49:05 SOMETHING, PEOPLE, TO ADDRESS THE GUN VIOLENCE.
09:49:10 SHE ALSO STATED THAT SHE WOULD REOPEN COLD CASES.
09:49:13 AND SHE WOULD INSTITUTE A PROGRAM TO ADDRESS MENTAL
09:49:18 HEALTH AWARENESS WITHIN OUR OWN POLICE FORCE.
09:49:21 WE ALSO SHARED WITH HER THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR
09:49:27 COMMUNITY POLICING IN EAST TAMPA ESPECIALLY.
09:49:29 FOR THESE REASONS, THE JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
09:49:33 CRIME WATCH GROUP SUPPORT MAYOR JANE CASTOR'S
09:49:36 APPOINTMENT OF MARY O'CONNOR AS POLICE CHIEF.
09:49:41 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:49:45 >>CLERK: CHAIR, THAT CONCLUDES THE REMOTE SPEAKERS FOR
09:49:46 TODAY.
09:49:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC
09:49:48 COMMENT.
09:50:15 NUMBER ONE.
09:50:18 >> I GOT UP THIS MORNING TO COME HAVING HAD BACK
09:50:19 SURGERY --
09:50:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: EXCUSE ME, MA'AM, STATE YOUR NAME.
09:50:24 >> CAROL PARMER.
09:50:28 MY HUSBAND. PETER PARMER, WORKED 18 YEARS BEFORE HE RESIGNED
09:50:29 YEARS BACK.
09:50:35 AND I WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK FOR MARY O'CONNOR AND
09:50:39 THE FACT THAT HER FAMILY IN MANY WAYS HAS BEEN A PART
09:50:44 OF THE POLICE EVIDENT -- BOTH SHE APPEARED HER HUSBAND.
09:50:48 I HAVE KNOWN HER TO BE AN HONORABLE WOMAN THAT
09:50:51 REPRESENTS THE WOMEN'S RIGHTS THAT WE HAVE NEEDED.
09:50:53 I GREW UP IN PLANT CITY.
09:50:58 I MOVED TO TAMPA IN 1966 WHEN THE BIGGEST FIGHT WE WON
09:51:01 WAS BEING ABLE TO WEAR TROUSERS TO WORK.
09:51:05 SOUNDS SO SILLY IN THESE DAYS, BUT IT WAS THAT KIND OF
09:51:09 A THING THAT WOMEN WERE TRYING TO FIND THEIR WAY UP
09:51:14 INTO BEING ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES AND MAKE THE CITY SAFER
09:51:22 AND STOP THE SQUABBLING BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS AND
09:51:24 WORKED TOGETHER FOR A METROPOLITAN AREA BECAUSE WE HAVE
09:51:26 BECOME A BIG CITY WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.
09:51:33 I HAD OCCASION TO BE IN A SPEAKING SITUATION WITH MARY
09:51:38 WHEN SHE RETIRED AND WENT OUT INTO THE LECTURE CIRCUIT
09:51:42 TO SPEAK TO OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND EVENTUALLY TO
09:51:47 THE FBI IN THE YEARS SHE WAS NOT ACTIVELY WORKING WITH
09:51:48 TAMPA POLICE.
09:51:58 AND SHE DID THAT AS I UNDERSTAND IT AND SHE HAS BEEN
09:52:04 WISE AND NOT FALLING DOWN AND PICKING HERSELF UP AND GO
09:52:07 TO THE NEXT PLACE IN THE THINGS SHE HAD LEARNED IN ALL
09:52:10 OF THESE YEARS BEING IN THE POLICE WORK.
09:52:15 AND THAT SHE IS -- ALWAYS HAS BEEN IN THE CITY AND
09:52:16 ALWAYS HAD HER FAMILY HERE.
09:52:21 SO I AM GLAD TO SEE SHE HAS BEEN, I GUESS IT IS CALLED
09:52:24 NOMINATED AT THIS POINT TO THE POLICE CHIEF, BECAUSE
09:52:28 SHE IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE FOR WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE
09:52:32 MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE A SAFE
09:52:37 COMMUNITY WITH ALL KINDS OF DIVERSITY.
09:52:38 THANK YOU.
09:52:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:53:01 NUMBER TWO.
09:53:02 >> YES.
09:53:04 MY NAME IS MELVIN HICKS.
09:53:06 HOW ARE YOU DOING, COUNCIL.
09:53:08 I HAVE BEEN COMING TO THIS CITY A LONG TIME.
09:53:11 AND I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF STUFF.
09:53:15 I HAVE SEEN THIS COUNCIL GO TO COUNTY COUNCIL.
09:53:22 I HAVE SEEN -- I HAVE SEEN ABOUT EVERYTHING AND THIS
09:53:23 RIGHT HERE.
09:53:25 I DON'T THINK MISS O'CONNOR SHOULD BE CHIEF.
09:53:29 THE PROCESS HAS BEEN VIOLATED AND THE INTEGRITY OF THE
09:53:33 PROCESS HAS BEEN VIOLATED.
09:53:37 SO, I -- IF I WAS TO ASSAULT A HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
09:53:40 DEPUTY, I WOULD BE LOCKED UP RIGHT NOW, BUT, YOU KNOW,
09:53:44 PROCESS WOULD BE VIOLATED.
09:53:50 THE MAYOR VIOLATED THE PROCESS WITH Y'ALL.
09:53:52 AND YOU ARE LEGISLATORS.
09:53:55 SHE IS A LEGISLATOR TOO, SO SHE VIOLATED THE PROCESS
09:53:56 AND DOING THAT.
09:54:02 REMEMBER WHEN BUCKHORN SAID WHEN HE MADE DUGGAN CHIEF.
09:54:04 CALLED HIM ON THE PHONE AND SAY DO YOU WANT TO BE
09:54:05 CHIEF.
09:54:07 REMEMBER WHEN BUCKHORN SAID THAT.
09:54:11 AND THE MAYOR DID WITH HER.
09:54:12 PROCESS BEING VIOLATED.
09:54:17 BUT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN HERE UNDER BUCKHORN.
09:54:20 I REMEMBER Y'ALL.
09:54:24 THE FIRST TIME A CONFIRMATION HAS BEEN LIKE THIS FOR A
09:54:26 POLICE CHIEF.
09:54:29 SO WE KNOW THE PROCESS HAS BEEN VIOLATED RIGHT NOW.
09:54:32 THE INTEGRITY IS BEING VIOLATED.
09:54:35 SHE DOESN'T FIT THE CATEGORY.
09:54:37 TAMPA NEEDS TO HEAL.
09:54:41 YOU CAN'T HAVE HER WITH BAGGAGE COMING TO THE POLICE
09:54:42 FORCE AS CAPTAIN.
09:54:44 COME ON.
09:54:47 IT'S BAGGAGE FOR THE CITY.
09:54:50 2020 SHOULD HAVE TOLD YOU THAT RIGHT THERE.
09:54:54 SHE IS BAGGAGE FOR THE -- FOR THE LOOK FOR THE CITY
09:54:55 RIGHT NOW.
09:54:56 WE ARE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:55:00 REMEMBER JANE CASTOR USED TO BE CHIEF OF POLICE
09:55:02 SOMEWHERE ELSE, NOT JUST TAMPA.
09:55:02 REMEMBER THAT.
09:55:05 THAT IS WAY BACK THERE.
09:55:08 BUT THE INTEGRITY IS BEING VIOLATED.
09:55:11 YOU KNOW THAT AND SHE AIN'T SUPPOSED TO BE CHIEF AND
09:55:14 NOT SUPPOSED -- THAT IS JUST ME.
09:55:18 I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE EVER SINCE THE QUIZNO'S
09:55:20 WAS RIGHT THERE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:55:21 FIVE GUYS.
09:55:23 YEAH, I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE.
09:55:30 SO I KNOW HER -- REMEMBER HOUSING.
09:55:31 THE EVICTION PROCESS.
09:55:36 AND JANE CASTOR ISSUING -- HAD TO RESIGN AND THEN
09:55:37 MAYOR.
09:55:40 POLITICS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:55:42 SHE IS RUNNING ON THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE POLICE
09:55:42 DEPARTMENT.
09:55:48 COME ON NOW, WE HIRED HER -- NO, WE ELECTED HER MAYOR.
09:55:50 NOT CHIEF OF POLICE.
09:55:52 WE ELECTED HER MAYOR.
09:55:54 HOW MANY HATS IS SHE WEARING?
09:55:55 FOR REAL.
09:56:00 THE MAYOR VIOLATING -- WE NEED TO REIN HER IN.
09:56:02 WE NEED TO SEPARATE, FOR REAL.
09:56:04 IT IS APPALLING.
09:56:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. HICKS.
09:56:20 NUMBER THREE.
09:56:24 NUMBER FOUR.
09:56:26 >> HEY, NUMBER THREE.
09:56:38 >> HANG ON.
09:56:39 >> I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT --
09:56:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
09:56:43 >> YES, I AM JAMES GRAHAM.
09:56:49 OKAY, I'M HERE TO STATE SOMETHING ABOUT THE NEW ALLEGED
09:56:51 POLICE CHIEF COMING UP AND WHATEVER.
09:56:54 IMAGINE RUNNING OUT OF GAS GOING TO YOUR HOUSE AFTER
09:56:57 HELPING SOMEBODY WHO IS STRANDED.
09:57:02 YOU RUN A GAS AND HAVE A GUN IN YOUR VEHICLE.
09:57:03 LEGALLY COED.
09:57:07 PROPERLY CONTAINED AND GET ARRESTED ONE DAY IN THE
09:57:10 COUNTY JAIL, ONE DAY SERVED.
09:57:11 YOU CAN'T GET A JOB.
09:57:15 YOU CAN'T GET A JOB AS A DETENTION DEPUTY.
09:57:16 NOTHING.
09:57:17 STILL HAVE THE GUN.
09:57:18 THAT'S ME.
09:57:20 ANOTHER THING I WANT TO BRING UP.
09:57:23 YOU TALK OF REPARATIONS AND DOING GOOD AND MAKING
09:57:24 THINGS RIGHT.
09:57:29 45 YEARS AGO, 1977, TAMPA STADIUM, LED ZEPPELIN RIOT.
09:57:32 THAT IS ME LAYING ON THE FIELD WITH MY SISTER STANDING
09:57:35 OVER THERE LOOKING AT THE PAPER CLIPS, IT IS FUNNY.
09:57:38 ONE YOUTH THAT STAYED IN THE HOSPITAL OVERNIGHT.
09:57:41 WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PAPER, I IDENTIFIED THE COP THAT
09:57:41 BEAT ME UP.
09:57:45 I SAID LOOKED LIKE A BULLDOG IN THE HELMET.
09:57:46 HE IS DEAD NOW.
09:57:48 HIS NAME WAS LARRY BENSON.
09:57:49 OKAY.
09:57:50 I STOOD IN THE HOSPITAL.
09:57:52 I GOT MY ARM AND BACK BROKEN.
09:57:55 I STILL TALK TO THE DOCTOR THAT TOOK CARE OF ME 45
09:57:57 YEARS AGO IN THE VA HOSPITAL.
09:57:58 THIS IS FUNNY.
09:57:59 I WANT REPARATIONS.
09:58:01 Y'ALL GET WITH ME.
09:58:02 IF YOU WANT A CARD.
09:58:04 I WILL GIVE YOU A A CARD WITH PHONE NUMBER.
09:58:07 IF YOU DON'T WANT TO -- SEE I AM ALSO A PHOTOGRAPHER.
09:58:10 AND I HAVE BEEN, CHARLIE, AT THE BLUE COLLAR COMEDY
09:58:12 TOUR AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE.
09:58:13 I HAVE BEEN AROUND.
09:58:16 I HAVE BEEN TO SOME OF YOUR INTERESTING LITTLE GET
09:58:16 TOGETHERS.
09:58:18 I HAVE GOT PHOTOS.
09:58:22 I AM STARTING TO WRITE A BOOK.
09:58:24 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SWEATING BULLETS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I
09:58:26 AM A VETERAN THAT DOESN'T EXIST.
09:58:29 I AM A VETERAN THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY RECORDS, NO
09:58:29 TATTOOS.
09:58:34 I AM NOT IN THE STUPID LITTLE YEARBOOK.
09:58:36 I HAVE A BLEMISH ON MY FACE.
09:58:40 I REALIZE WHY I WASN'T PHOTOED IF AT ALL.
09:58:43 I DID RICH PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT DIRTY WORK.
09:58:44 THAT IS ME.
09:58:48 I WAS THE ONLY PERSON, 16-YEAR-OLD BOY TRYING TO HELP
09:58:51 MY SISTER UP AND I REMEMBER WOULD YOU LIKE -- WILL JUST
09:58:52 PHRASE IT.
09:58:56 GET UP YOU F'ING HIPPY.
09:59:00 AND I TALKED TO A GUY AT THE FAIR GETTING A POSTER OF
09:59:01 THE LED ZEPPELIN.
09:59:05 I GOT MY ASS KICKED AT LED ZEPPELIN FOR $10.
09:59:10 ANYHOW, THIS THING RIGHT HERE -- YOU KNOW I AM CON
09:59:12 FRONTING ISSUES FROM THE PAST BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS
09:59:15 GETTING SO DISAPPOINTED AND HELPED OUT HERE.
09:59:17 I WISH THE CANDIDATE THE BEST.
09:59:19 THAT IS UP TO YOU.
09:59:21 BUT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE EARN RESPECT AND TRUST AND STUFF.
09:59:24 I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS GOING TO GO EXACTLY.
09:59:28 SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE -- I KNOW A LOT OF HONORABLE AND
09:59:31 RESPECTFUL AND COPS WITH INTEGRITY AND THEY KNOW I GOT
09:59:32 THEIR BACK.
09:59:37 THEY KNOW IF THEY ARE BEING SHOT AT, I WILL BE SHOOTING
09:59:41 AT THE PEOPLE WITH THEM SHOOTING.
09:59:44 BUT THERE WILL COME A TIME WHEN I THINK IT IS INTO THE
09:59:46 MY JOB OR OBLIGATION TO WORK.
09:59:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:59:50 >> NOBODY WANTS A CARD, THAT IS GOOD.
09:59:54 YOU WILL BE HEARING THINGS IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
09:59:58 I HAVE BEEN WRITE THINGS.
10:00:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:00:14 NUMBER FOUR.
10:00:15 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:00:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING.
10:00:17 STATE YOUR NAME.
10:00:20 >> MY NAME IS BRENDA CANINO.
10:00:23 I AM A FORMER CITY OF TAMPA POLICE OFFICER.
10:00:25 AND I DID PATROL THE STREETS OF TAMPA WITH CHIEF
10:00:27 O'CONNOR.
10:00:29 MANY YEARS.
10:00:30 SHE KNOWS THE CITY.
10:00:34 SHE KNOWS ITS PEOPLE.
10:00:37 AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE RECENT APPOINTMENT
10:00:43 OF CHIEF O'CONNOR BY MAYOR JANE CASTOR HAS CREATED A
10:00:46 WHIRLWIND OF RUMOR AND DOUBT AS TO EXACTLY WHO CHIEF
10:00:49 O'CONNOR IS.
10:00:53 QUESTIONS OF HER CREDIBILITY, OTHER FORMS OF REASONABLE
10:00:56 DOUBT ARE NOT UNUSUAL FOR ANY SITUATION REGARDING
10:01:03 GOVERNMENT, APPOINTED POSITIONS OR EVEN FORMER ELECTION
10:01:04 OF CERTAIN OFFICIALS.
10:01:11 CRITICISM OF CHARACTER, HOWEVER OTHER FORMS OF
10:01:15 PREJUDICE, SLANDER AND SO FORTH ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF
10:01:17 SO-CALLED TRANSPARENT AND PROGRESSIVE ORGANIZATIONS
10:01:30 SUCH AS THE CITY OF TAMPA SADLY IT IS A MORE OPPRESSIVE
10:01:34 NATURE.
10:01:37 EYE FOR ONE CAN ATTEST TO THE CALIBER OF CHIEF
10:01:38 O'CONNOR.
10:01:43 AS A POLICEWOMAN A MOTHER, WIFE AND FRIEND AND MOST
10:01:49 IMPORTANTLY AS A BACK-UP IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:01:54 WE -- WELL, I WAS PART OF THE PERSONALITY THAT
10:02:04 PROTECTED PRESIDENT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND OUR
10:02:06 CONCERN IS THE PROTECTION OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF
10:02:10 TAMPA THAT IS AT THE POINT AT THIS TIME.
10:02:13 I'M HERE TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN WHY SHE IS MORE QUALIFIED
10:02:17 FOR THE POSITION AND WHY ALL THE SPECULATORS SHOULD
10:02:22 TAKE SEAT, TAKE NOTE AND RE-EVALUATE YOUR OPINIONS.
10:02:26 FIRST AND FOREMOST, HER DEDICATION TO THE JOB, AS WELL
10:02:30 AS HER PEERS AND FAMILIES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN EVIDENCE
10:02:33 WHILE WORKING THE LINE OF DUTY.
10:02:37 SHE IS FEARLESS IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY, AND REMEMBER
10:02:43 RESILIENCE ALWAYS MANAGED TO MOVE ME AS AN INDIVIDUAL.
10:02:51 CHIEF O'CONNOR IS EXTREMELY DEDICATED TO WHAT SHE DOES
10:02:55 CHIEF O'CONNOR IS EXEMPLARY IN ALL THESE VALUES.
10:02:59 IN ADDITION TO BEING A STRONG HISPANIC FEMALE FULLY
10:03:04 EDUCATED FULLY CAPABLE OF BEING CHIEF FOR THE CITY OF
10:03:06 TAMPA POLICE.
10:03:09 I WOULD HIGHLY ADVISE ANYONE WHO IS EITHER IN DOUBT OF
10:03:15 CHIEF O'CONNOR OR WHO HAS ANY PREDETERMINE INCLINATIONS
10:03:19 ABOUT HER TO TAKE SERIOUS INVENTORY, SELF-INVENTORY, OF
10:03:23 YOURSELF BEFORE PASSING ANY FURTHER JUDGMENT.
10:03:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, BRENDA.
10:03:30 >> THANK YOU.
10:03:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER FIVE.
10:03:44 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, BRET BARTLETT.
10:03:45 RETIRED FROM TAMPA POLICE.
10:03:47 ALMOST THERE 32 YEARS.
10:03:52 I ROSE FROM THE RANKS OF PATROLMAN TO CAPTAIN.
10:03:55 I DIRECTED A SECTION OF D-3 WHEN IT WAS BRAND-NEW.
10:03:59 A VERY CHALLENGING VERY GOOD TIME.
10:04:06 INTERNAL BUREAU, INTERNAL AFFAIRS BUREAU, I HAD A
10:04:07 VARIED CAREER.
10:04:10 HAVING SAID THAT I HAD WHAT THE OFFICER SAY A SPLOTCHY
10:04:13 DISCIPLINARY HISTORY.
10:04:17 I HAD ROUGH TIMES.
10:04:21 I WAS FORTUNATE THAT THE LEADERSHIP RECOGNIZED -- HOW
10:04:23 RETHEY CAN NICEED THE ABILITY TO SERVE AND DO A GOOD
10:04:23 JOB.
10:04:24 I BENEFITED FROM THAT.
10:04:28 I AM A BIG BELIEVER IN SECOND CHANCES.
10:04:29 I WORKED WITH MARY O'CONNOR.
10:04:33 I KNOW SHE IS A PERSON OF INTEGRITY, ENTHUSIASM.
10:04:35 I THINK SHE IS GOING TO DO A GOOD JOB.
10:04:40 I RISE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF CHIEF O'CONNOR AND RISE IN
10:04:44 SUPPORT OF MAYOR CASTOR'S ABILITY AND DECISION TO THINK
10:04:46 WHATEVER SHE THINKS IS NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS
10:04:49 IN THIS CITY THAT SHE WANTS TO ACHIEVE.
10:04:51 MY HATS OFF TO CHIEF O'CONNOR.
10:04:53 I WISH HER THE BEST OF LUCK.
10:04:56 AND, AGAIN, I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THIS DECISION.
10:04:58 AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
10:05:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, BRETT.
10:05:16 NUMBER 6.
10:05:17 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:05:18 IT'S A PLEASURE.
10:05:20 FIRST THING, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR EACH OF OUR
10:05:23 DISTRICTS ON A DAILY BASIS.
10:05:26 RAFAEL PIZANO.
10:05:35 I AM A LIAISON FOR THE CITY
10:05:36 OF TAMPA.
10:05:39 OUR COUNCIL MET WITH POLICE CHIEF MARY O'CONNOR.
10:05:40 WE HAD A REAL HUMAN EXPERIENCE.
10:05:43 I THINK FIRST THING WE NOTICED POST THAT MEETING IS OUR
10:05:44 CITY IS BLESSED.
10:05:46 WE HAVE MORE THAN ONE CANDIDATE.
10:05:49 AND THEY BOTH -- IF A THIRD CONSIDERED HAVE A
10:05:52 INCREDIBLE DEDICATION AND HISTORY TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:05:56 WE VALUE THAT EQUALLY AND RESPECT THAT AND ADMIRE THAT
10:05:59 AND WITH THE LOVE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:06:01 CONCLUSION OF THE BOARD THAT THE EXPERIENCE THAT CHIEF
10:06:04 O'CONNOR CAN OFFER THE CITY, HER 22 YEARS EXPERIENCE.
10:06:06 HER FIVE YEARS TRAVELING ACROSS THE COUNTRY, HER WORK
10:06:10 WITH THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, IT CAN BRING
10:06:12 A LOT OF LIGHT TO OUR CITY AND IT IS WELCOMED.
10:06:14 IT IS EMBRACED.
10:06:16 AND WE WOULD SUPPORT THIS NOMINATION.
10:06:20 THAT IS MY PART TODAY AS A LIAISON FOR THE COUNCIL.
10:06:27 NOW I WILL SPEAK FOR RAFAEL PIRZANO, VETERAN, LOVING
10:06:28 MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.
10:06:31 MY PERSONAL WORDS ARE THAT I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT
10:06:33 SACRIFICED.
10:06:35 BECAUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS DO SACRIFICE QUITE A
10:06:36 BIT.
10:06:39 THEY PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE.
10:06:43 THEIR FAMILIES ENDURE QUITE A BIT.
10:06:46 I MET A HUMAN BEING THE DAY OUR COUNCIL MET.
10:06:48 AND I SPOKE ONE ON ONE WITH HER.
10:06:50 I SEE SOMEONE THAT WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND.
10:06:54 AND I NOTICE THAT WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE WE WATCH
10:06:58 MOVIES OR READ PHILOSOPHY AND HAVE OUR BELIEFS IN
10:07:00 SECOND CHANCES AND STONE IN REALITY PEOPLE WITH ANY
10:07:04 EXPERIENCE THAT THEY LEARN FROM.
10:07:07 I SEE ONE MINUTE THING ABOUT THIS HUMAN BEING, AND
10:07:11 I SEE HOW THEY CREATED SO MUCH LIGHT AND POSITIVE FOR
10:07:14 THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE COUNTRY.
10:07:15 I HAVE READ.
10:07:16 I HAVE RESEARCHED.
10:07:17 I HAVE SEEN THE WORK ABROAD.
10:07:20 AND I PERSONALLY FEEL AS A RESIDENT -- I CONSIDER
10:07:22 MYSELF A SON OF TAMPA.
10:07:23 WE EACH LOVE THE CITY SO MUCH.
10:07:26 I SEE THIS INDIVIDUAL THAT I DO NOT PERSONALLY KNOW AS
10:07:29 SOMEONE THAT BRINGS A CERTAIN EXPERIENCE OR IN THE PAST
10:07:31 I WOULD NOT HAVE CONSIDERED.
10:07:34 THE ENCOUNTER, THAT ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THAT SHE
10:07:37 ENCOUNTERED IN HER YOUTH, SHE OFFERS AN EXPERIENCE THAT
10:07:42 SHE UNDERSTANDS MULTIPLE ANGLES OF THOUGHT WHEN IT
10:07:43 COMES TO POLICING.
10:07:45 SHE KNOWS WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO ENDURE CERTAIN
10:07:47 CHARACTER AND INDIVIDUALS.
10:07:49 SHE UNDERSTAND OURS RESIDENTS.
10:07:52 SHE UNDERSTANDS POLICING.
10:07:54 SHE UNDERSTANDS OUR COMMUNITY.
10:07:58 I WISH HER AND THE OTHER CANDIDATES, I THANK THEM.
10:08:01 I SUPPORT CHIEF MARY O'CONNOR FOR CITY OF TAMPA POLICE.
10:08:02 THANK YOU.
10:08:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, RAFAEL.
10:08:13 NUMBER 7.
10:08:14 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:08:17 CONNIE BURTON.
10:08:22 I USUALLY FORMULATE MY THOUGHTS AFTER I HAVE HEARD A
10:08:26 WORD OF WISDOM, BUT WHAT WAS GIVEN TO US THIS MORNING
10:08:30 WAS THE SILENT MEDITATION OF WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE.
10:08:33 WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT IS
10:08:35 HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
10:08:39 AND I IMMEDIATELY REFLECTED UPON WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE
10:08:46 THAT HAVE HAD TO LIVE UP UNDER RACIAL PROFILING, NOT IN
10:08:49 A FARAWAY COUNTRY BUT HERE IN THIS CITY.
10:08:57 WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE EXPECTED THE LEADERSHIP
10:09:00 TO START FROM A PLACE OF -- WITH A CLEAN BROOM.
10:09:08 SO WE CAN GET ON A FRESH START WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT
10:09:09 HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THIS HISTORY OF POLICING IN THE
10:09:13 CITY OF TAMPA, PEOPLE CAN'T BE PROUD OF THAT.
10:09:16 IT'S NOT OF ONE PERSON THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
10:09:19 WE ARE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT, THE LEADERSHIP
10:09:22 OF THE DEPARTMENT, THAT THOUGHT IT WAS ALL RIGHT TO
10:09:25 ENGAGE IN RACIAL PROFILING.
10:09:28 THAT THOUGHT IT WAS ALREADY FOR OFFICERS TO RECEIVE
10:09:31 PROMOTIONS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF ARRESTS THEY MADE IN
10:09:34 MINORITY COMMUNITIES.
10:09:38 THE FACT THAT WE HAVE DRIVING AND BIKING WHILE BLACK IS
10:09:40 NOT SOMETHING THAT WE MADE UP.
10:09:47 AND THEN WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE RECEIVING THIS
10:09:50 SECOND CHANCE OF REDEMPTION, WE DON'T SEE HOW BROAD IT
10:09:50 GOES.
10:09:55 WE JUST HERE FOR ONE PERSON, RIGHT NOW.
10:09:57 BUT NOBODY CAME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS HARMED
10:09:58 THE MOST.
10:10:01 I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FEDS COMING IN HERE, BUT I
10:10:03 AM TALKING ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS CITY COMING IN
10:10:09 AND SAYING, HARM WAS DONE TO THE AFRICAN COMMUNION.
10:10:13 HARM WAS DONE WITH GENERATIONAL PEOPLE WHERE PEOPLE
10:10:16 WERE CAPTAINS OR RATHER JUST MERE OFFICERS.
10:10:22 THOSE SAME PERSONS ARE BEING ASKED TO TAKE THE NEXT
10:10:24 LEVEL WHEN THEY HAVEN'T REPAIRED THE DAMAGE.
10:10:28 HOW DO YOU CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD OF THIS TYPE OF
10:10:31 IMBALANCE IN THIS CITY?
10:10:35 TAMPA CANNOT HEAL UNTIL YOU FIRST ADMIT SOMETHING WAS
10:10:39 DONE WRONG, NOT TO THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL BUT TO AN ENTIRE
10:10:44 COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE WHO WERE USED AS A STEP STONE FOR
10:10:45 OTHERS TO BENEFIT.
10:10:48 AND WE ALL KNOW IT HAPPENED.
10:10:52 AND SO WHILE PEOPLE WANT TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE, IT CAN
10:11:00 NOT BE DONE UNTIL WE HAVE TOTAL, TOTAL REPAIR FOR THOSE
10:11:02 THAT WERE HARMED FIRST.
10:11:06 AND WHEN WE GET THAT, THEN WE CAN MOVE ON.
10:11:07 THANK YOU.
10:11:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS BURTON.
10:11:21 NUMBER 8.
10:11:32 NUMBER 8.
10:11:34 >> MENTESNOT.
10:11:37 TOM BRADY MUST BE EXPERIENCING FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES.
10:11:39 WHAT A POOR EXAMPLE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND A POOR EXAMPLE
10:11:42 FOR PEOPLE IN GENERAL, BUT A GOOD EXAMPLE OF EXACTLY
10:11:45 HOW CAPITALISM DRAINS EVERYTHING OUT OF THE
10:11:48 WORKING-CLASS WITH NO CONSIDERATION OF THE WELL BEING
10:11:50 AND WELFARE OF THE WORKER.
10:11:53 SHOULD BE CALLED THE MUHAMMAD ALI SYNDROME.
10:11:58 TOM BRADY, ELDERLY MAN, 15 YEARS BEYOND PARTICIPATING
10:12:03 THE GLADIATOR, HEAD INJURY SPORT AND THE PEOPLE WE KNOW
10:12:06 TO TRUST TO DO BETTER IS ALL CHEERING HIM ON.
10:12:09 IT IS NO DIFFERENT THAN PEDOPHILES AND ENTICING AND
10:12:13 EXPLOITING LITTLE CHILDREN WITH CANDY AND VIDEO GAMES
10:12:16 AS HER SEXUALLY ABUSER, HUMAN PREDATORS ENTICING AND
10:12:21 EXPLOITING TEENAGERS WITH DREAMS OF STARDOM, RAP
10:12:26 CAREERS FOR TRAVEL AND PREPARE FOR DRUG RUNNING, HUMAN
10:12:30 TRAFFICKING AND GREAT FORMS OF GREAT EXPLOITATION.
10:12:34 THIS CITY COUNCIL SHOULD NOT ALLOW A PROCESS TO WORK
10:12:34 BACKWARDS.
10:12:38 THIS CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE A STRONG MESSAGE FOR THIS
10:12:42 MAYOR AND FUTURE MAYORS THAT THEY ARE ELECTED FOR THE
10:12:48 PEOPLE AND NO MAYOR SHOULD HAPHAZARDLY BYPASS THE
10:12:49 PROCESS.
10:12:53 MAYORAL REPENTANCE BECAUSE THEY WERE CONTROLLED BY THE
10:12:53 MEDIA.
10:12:57 BYPASSING THE CITIZENS AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS GRAVE
10:13:00 CONSEQUENCES AND ONE HAS ALREADY BEEN REVEALED WITH THE
10:13:03 TRAGIC DEATH OF A 44-YEAR-OLD CITIZEN THAT WAS A DIRECT
10:13:07 COLLATERAL DAMAGE OF IGNORANCE POLICIES AND DISRESPECT
10:13:09 FOR CITIZENS AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
10:13:12 PROPERTY CRIMES LIKE A STOLEN AUTOMOBILE SHOULD NOT BE
10:13:14 PRIORITIZED OR CLASSIFIED AS CRIMES THAT COULD
10:13:18 POTENTIALLY LEAD TO THE DEATH OR SENTENCE OF INNOCENT
10:13:19 CITIZENS.
10:13:24 AN AUTOMOBILE FROM MLK TO TAMPA STREET.
10:13:28 TURKEY CREEK IN SEFFNER AND 18 MILES IS NOT ONLY
10:13:30 IRRESPONSIBLE BUT CRIMINAL.
10:13:32 BOTH THE OCCUPANTS AND THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT CHASE
10:13:35 THE AUTO, THE POLICE CHIEF AND THE MAYOR SHOULD BE HELD
10:13:38 CRIMINALLY ACCOUNTABLE AND RESPONSIBLE.
10:13:40 LEAVES OUR REPARATIONS AND MAKING RACIST STATEMENTS
10:13:45 CONNECTING CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND REFORM TO FAITH-BASED
10:13:49 SHOW A GREAT DEAL OF RACIAL INSENSITIVITY.
10:13:54 THE SAME WAY CITY COUNCILMEMBER JOHN DINGFELDER WAS
10:13:56 FORCED TO RESIGN IS THE SAME WAY THAT THEY SHOULD
10:14:02 DEMAND THE RESIGNATION OF THE JUDGE FOR CONNECTED TO
10:14:04 CARL HENSON.
10:14:07 THE SAME WAY THE CITY OF TAMPA SHOULD LET THE MAYOR
10:14:09 KNOW WITH A STRONG NO VOTE EVEN IN A TECHNOLOGICAL
10:14:15 ADVANCED, YOU SHOULD NOT PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
10:14:17 CITIZENS HAVE RESPONSIBILITY OF GAS PRICES, INFLATION,
10:14:22 $108 BILLION GOVERNMENT SPENDING, GENTRIFICATION,
10:14:28 HOUSING CRISIS, RUNAWAY INCREASES AND NOT ADHERING TO
10:14:29 POLICY.
10:14:31 NOT ABOUT MARY O'CONNOR OR THE LUCK OF THE IRISH BUT
10:14:33 PROCESS AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:14:40 THIS CITY COUNCIL SHOULD VOTE NO.
10:14:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:14:49 NUMBER 9.
10:14:53 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, YVETTE LEWIS, PRESIDENT
10:14:56 OF THE NAACP HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BRANCH.
10:14:59 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, COULD SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER THE
10:15:00 QUESTION.
10:15:02 WHERE WAS THE TRANSPARENCY IN THIS PROCESS OF SELECTING
10:15:04 THE CHIEF OF POLICE?
10:15:08 WHERE WAS THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND ENGAGEMENT IN
10:15:12 SELECTING THE CHIEF OF POLICE?
10:15:18 I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE CITY OF TAMPA, TAXPAYER --
10:15:22 CITY OF TAMPA PAID FOR A NATIONWIDE SEARCH WITH
10:15:26 TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND END UP WITH THREE PEOPLE IN OUR
10:15:26 OWN STATE.
10:15:29 TWO IN TAMPA.
10:15:33 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, YOU WILL MAKE A DIFFICULT DECISION
10:15:35 TODAY.
10:15:41 THE MAYOR APPOINTED MARY O'CONNOR FOR CHIEF OF POLICE.
10:15:46 MARY O'CONNOR STATED AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE, WE CAN'T
10:15:50 -- WE CAN'T ARREST OUR WAY OUT OF CRIME.
10:15:53 SHE ALSO STATED -- STATED THAT SHE TREATED EVERYBODY
10:15:57 WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT, BUT YET AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN
10:16:01 THIS COMMUNITY WERE TARGETED WITH TICKETING AND ARRESTS
10:16:08 FOR RIDING A BIKE UNDER MARY O'CONNOR'S LEADERSHIP.
10:16:14 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, YOU ASKED, WHY ARE WE KEEP
10:16:16 BRINGING BIKING WHILE BLACK UP.
10:16:20 IT IS BECAUSE THE WOLVES ARE STILL THERE.
10:16:24 THE WOLVES ARE STILL PRESENT.
10:16:29 LATER, TO DISCOVER MORE RULES WERE OPEN.
10:16:33 /WITH THE CRIME FREE HOUSING PROGRAM TARGETED
10:16:36 AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND POOR PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:16:39 YOU SEE, A LOT OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR JOBS, THEIR
10:16:42 HOUSING.
10:16:47 AND MOST IMPORTANT, THEY LOST THEIR DIGNITY.
10:16:52 SINCE TAMPA BELIEVES IN SECOND CHANCES, MAYBE THEY
10:16:55 WILL REACH BACK AND REMOVE AND CORRECT SOME OF THE
10:16:57 INJUSTICES THAT WAS PLACED UPON THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN
10:17:04 COMMUNITY.
10:17:07 THIS PROCESS WAS FLAWED AND NEED TO START OVER IN ORDER
10:17:09 TO BUILD THE TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:17:13 AFTER ALL, TAMPA IS A DIVERSE CITY.
10:17:17 KNOWN AS CMAMPA BAY.
10:17:22 OH, I FORGET, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, COULD SOMEONE PLEASE
10:17:28 QUESTION THE GOOD OL' BOY NETWORK AT TPD AND ASK THEM
10:17:35 HOW THEY ALLOW A PERSON TO ADVANCE HER CAREER AFTER
10:17:36 RECEIVING A BATTERY ON A POLICE OFFICER.
10:17:43 YOU SEE WE FIGHT A LOT OF CASES DEALING WITH YOUTH IN
10:17:46 THE SCHOOLS WHEN YOU BRUSH UP ON BATTERY OF A POLICE
10:17:46 OFFICER.
10:17:50 WE FIGHT TO END THOSE CASES AND ERASE THEM BECAUSE IT
10:17:51 STAYS ON THEIR RECORDS.
10:17:58 SO ALL I AM SAYING IS CONSIDER WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS
10:17:58 SAYING.
10:18:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 10.
10:18:14 >> GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE, CHAPLAIN
10:18:18 RICHARD FELLOWS, OF THE CHAPLAIN OF THE POLICE
10:18:18 DEPARTMENT.
10:18:20 ONE OF THE CHAPLAINS.
10:18:22 I SUPPORT MARY O'CONNOR.
10:18:25 I HAVE KNOWN HER FOR 15 YEARS, BACK WHEN SHE WAS A
10:18:27 LIEUTENANT WHEN I CAME IN.
10:18:28 WAY BACK WHEN.
10:18:34 I KNOW HER AS BEING A WOMAN OF INTEGRITY, COMPASSION.
10:18:37 AND NOT ONLY FOR COMMAND STAFF BUT THE OFFICERS ON THE
10:18:37 STREET.
10:18:41 I SPEND MOST OF MY TIME WITH THEM.
10:18:44 TO A PERSON, THEY HAVE ALL SAID WHAT A WONDERFUL CHOICE
10:18:47 IT WAS AND HOW THEY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HER.
10:18:48 THEY FEEL SUPPORTED BY HER.
10:18:51 THEY FEEL EMPOWERED BY HER.
10:18:53 AND THEY SUPPORT HER 100%.
10:18:55 I RISE IN FAVOR OF HER APPOINTMENT.
10:18:57 THANK YOU.
10:19:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, CHAPLAIN, THANK YOU, SIR.
10:19:14 NUMBER 11.
10:19:16 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:19:18 PETE BREVI.
10:19:21 AS I ALWAYS SAY, THANK YOU FOR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
10:19:21 TODAY.
10:19:25 I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT I SHARE A FEW WORDS ABOUT
10:19:27 THE -- ABOUT THE CONFIRMATION OF CHIEF O'CONNOR.
10:19:30 YOU KNOW, I AM NOT POLITICAL IN NATURE BY ANY STRETCH
10:19:33 OF THE IMAGINATION AND KIND OF OUTSIDE OF MY BOX TO
10:19:35 KIND OF DO THIS THING.
10:19:40 BUT EVER SINCE MAYOR CASTOR APPOINTED CHIEF MARY
10:19:42 O'CONNOR FOR THE POLICE CHIEF OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:19:45 THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCOURSE.
10:19:47 AND I THOUGHT IT WAS MY OBLIGATION TO COME AND SHARE A
10:19:50 FEW OF MY OWN COMMENTS.
10:19:53 COUNTRY FOR THE HARD-WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF THE TAMPA
10:19:55 POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE THAT
10:19:57 THIS SITUATION SUSPECT ABOUT THE QUALIFICATIONS OF MARY
10:20:01 O'CONNOR, NOR ANY OF THE FINALISTS, NOR IS IT INVOLVING
10:20:05 REALLY ABOUT THE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED WITH MARY 27,
10:20:06 28 YEARS AGO.
10:20:08 IT IS REALLY ABOUT THE PROCESS, AND I THINK EVERYBODY
10:20:11 UNDERSTANDS THAT EVERYBODY HAS A VARIED OPINION ON
10:20:12 THAT.
10:20:14 UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T THINK THAT IS ONE OF THOSE
10:20:17 THINGS THEY SHOULD LAY AT THE FEET OF MARY O'CONNOR.
10:20:19 SHE IS NOT PART OF THAT PROCESS.
10:20:20 SHE WAS A CANDIDATE IN THAT PROCESS.
10:20:23 AND I DON'T THINK THAT BY ANY STRETCH OF THE
10:20:25 IMAGINATION MARY SHOULD BE THE BABY THAT GETS THROWN
10:20:28 OUT WITH THE BATH WATER.
10:20:31 BEING AN ALUMNI OF THIS VERY DEPARTMENT, I SPENT 30
10:20:34 YEARS AND SILL RESERVE POLICE OFFICER AND I HAVE BEEN
10:20:37 SO FOR ANOTHER SEVEN.
10:20:40 YOU KNOW, I HAVE -- I HAVE A DEEP REWARD FOR THIS
10:20:40 DEPARTMENT.
10:20:42 I THINK IT IS ONE OF THE FINEST DEPARTMENTS IN THE
10:20:43 COUNTRY.
10:20:46 MY OPINION THAT THE CONTROVERSY AND DELAY SURROUNDING
10:20:48 THIS CONFIRMATION IS DAMAGING TO A DEPARTMENT OF THIS
10:20:51 SIZE AND ITS COMMUNITY.
10:20:54 I THINK IN -- IN THE TIME THAT WE WERE ALL IN NOW
10:20:57 THROUGHOUT THE -- NOT ONLY THE WORLD BUT THE COUNTRY
10:21:00 AND LOCALLY AS A WHOLE, I JUST THINK THAT WE HAVE A LOT
10:21:03 OF ISSUES THAT NEED THE ATTENTION OF THE POLICE
10:21:06 DEPARTMENT.
10:21:09 YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CONFRONTED DAILY
10:21:11 WITH CHALLENGES AND ISSUES THAT REQUIRE STRONG
10:21:12 LEADERSHIP.
10:21:14 AND I SAID NOT ONLY THE BEST INTEREST OF THE DEPARTMENT
10:21:17 AND THE DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN THAT THE TPD DESERVES
10:21:21 TO HAVE A SINGULAR VOICE AND A STRONG ADVOCATE TO SPEAK
10:21:23 UP FOR THEM, AS ARE THE CITIZENS.
10:21:24 THEY DESERVE THE SAME.
10:21:27 ONE THING THAT IS INTERESTING THINK THAT NEVER HEARD
10:21:30 ONE ARGUMENT CONCERNING CHIEF O'CONNOR'S LACK OF
10:21:33 ABILITY, QUALIFICATIONS OR ABILITY TO LEAD THE
10:21:33 DEPARTMENT FORWARD.
10:21:36 REALLY WHEN I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THERE REALLY
10:21:37 ARE NONE.
10:21:40 SINCE THE MOMENT SHE WAS PUT IN A LEADERSHIP POSITION
10:21:42 20 SOMETHING YEARS AGO, THAT HAS NEVER BEEN A QUESTION.
10:21:46 YOU KNOW, SHE IS A VERY DEDICATED, FORWARD THINKING,
10:21:50 INNOVATIVE AND EXTREMELY LOYAL LEADER.
10:21:52 AND SHE MADE THE BEST OF A SECOND CHANCE.
10:21:55 YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNION AND
10:21:56 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE TIME HAS COME FOR EVERYBODY
10:22:00 TO UNIFY AND PUT THIS ISSUE TO BED AND CONFIRM CHIEF
10:22:01 O'CONNOR.
10:22:04 DOING SO WILL ALLOW HER AND HER COMMAND STAFF TO MOVE
10:22:07 FORWARD TO AFFECT THE MYRIAD OF CHALLENGES AND PROVIDE
10:22:10 A SAFE CITY THAT WE ARE ALL PROUD TO CALL HOME.
10:22:11 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:22:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, PETE.
10:22:23 NUMBER 12.
10:22:26 ALL THE RETIREES HERE TODAY.
10:22:28 >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE PULEO.
10:22:32 I RETIRED IN 2019 FROM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HOMICIDE
10:22:32 SQUAD.
10:22:35 AND I'M HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU WHY CHIEF MARY O'CONNOR
10:22:37 IS THE BEST CHOICE FOR CHIEF.
10:22:41 ALTHOUGH I AM NOT A RESIDENT OF THE CITY, I GROW UP IN
10:22:41 NORTHEST HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
10:22:44 I WENT TO SCHOOL AND ATTENDED CHURCH IN FOREST HILLS.
10:22:48 WHEN I WAS HIRED, IT WAS MY DESIRE TO WORK IN DISTRICT
10:22:51 2 IN THE AREA WHERE I GREW UP.
10:22:56 AND LATE 2009, I WAS PROMOTED TO DETECTIVE AND ASSIGNED
10:23:00 TO THE DISTRICT TWO INVESTIGATION SQUAD WHERE MARY WAS
10:23:01 THE SERGEANT.
10:23:04 TOURING THIS TIME I QUICKLY LEARNED SHE HELD HER
10:23:05 DETECTIVES TO A HIGH STANDARD.
10:23:07 SHE ALWAYS EMPHASIZED THAT WE WERE THERE TO WORK FOR
10:23:11 THE VICTIMS OF CRIME AND TO PROVIDE THEM THE BEST AND
10:23:14 MOST THOROUGH INVESTIGATION.
10:23:17 SHE ENCOURAGED HER DETECTIVES TO WORK CLOSELY OFFICERS
10:23:20 ON THE STREET AND ALSO TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
10:23:23 TOGETHER UNDER HER DIRECTION, OUR DISTRICT WAS ABLE TO
10:23:24 REDUCE CRIME.
10:23:28 SHE ALWAYS FOSTERED CAMARADERIE BETWEEN MEMBERS OF OUR
10:23:32 SQUAD AND HAD US KEEP OUTSIDE INTEREST AND FAMILIES A
10:23:34 PRIORITY FOR OUR OWN WELLNESS.
10:23:37 OUR SQUAD WAS VERY CLOSE KNIT AND TO THIS DAY, MANY
10:23:40 MEMBERS ARE STILL IN CONTACT WITH EACH OTHER.
10:23:44 I LATER WORKED WITH MARY AS MY MAJOR WHEN I WAS
10:23:47 ASSIGNED TO THE VIOLENT CRIMES SQUAD.
10:23:50 SHE AND I KEPT IN TOUCH OVER THE YEARS AND SHE OFTEN
10:23:53 TALKS OF THE VICTIMS THAT OUR SQUADS AND OUR DEPARTMENT
10:23:55 IN GENERAL HAVE FELT.
10:23:59 I WAS RECENTLY SPEAKING WITH A MEMBER OF OUR OLD SQUAD.
10:24:02 HE REMINDED ME WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT CRIME STATISTICS,
10:24:06 MARY ALWAYS REMINDED US THAT BEHIND THE NUMBERS WERE
10:24:09 ACTUAL PEOPLE AND VICTIMS THAT DESERVED JUSTICE.
10:24:13 ABOVE ALL, SHE HAS ALWAYS EMPHASIZED THAT REGARDLESS OF
10:24:18 RACE, ETHNICITY, RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION OR NORTH
10:24:20 CAROLINA STATUS, ALL VICTIMS DESERVE AND WILL BE
10:24:23 TREATED WITH RESPECT AND THAT CITIZENS WILL RECEIVE THE
10:24:25 BEST POLICE SERVICE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THEM.
10:24:28 LIKE MYSELF, CHIEF O'CONNOR HAS A TRUE PASSION FOR
10:24:32 THIS DEPARTMENT AND FOR POLICE SERVICE.
10:24:36 SHE, TOO, HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN THIS CITY.
10:24:40 CHIEF O'CONNOR EPITOME OF A MENTOR AND LEADER AND CARES
10:24:43 DEEPLY OF PEOPLE OF THIS CITY.
10:24:47 IF THIS CITY COUNCIL AND THE DEPARTMENT WANTS A BETTER
10:24:50 QUALITY OF LIFE AND SHE IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE BEST
10:24:51 WESTERN FOR THIS POSITION.
10:24:53 THANK YOU.
10:24:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:25:01 NUMBER 13.
10:25:04 GENTLEMEN, JUST SO YOU KNOW WE HAVE ROUGHLY OVER 50
10:25:08 SPEAKERS.
10:25:12 I HAVE A LIST HERE, MR. SHELBY.
10:25:13 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:25:15 MY NAME IS PETER WRIGHT.
10:25:17 GOOD MORNING, CHIEF.
10:25:19 AND GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
10:25:21 I AM NOT A POLITICIAN BY TRADE.
10:25:25 I AM A HOTEL GENERAL MANAGER IN YBOR CITY FOR A LUXURY
10:25:27 HOTEL.
10:25:30 YOU COME TO YOU TODAY TO PROVIDE SOME ENDORSEMENT FOR
10:25:30 MARY O'CONNOR.
10:25:33 I AM A REBOUND CITIZEN OF TAMPA.
10:25:36 I WAS HERE MANY YEARS AGO AND NOW BACK.
10:25:40 BUT I CAN TELL YOU, TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE OF THE
10:25:43 POTENTIAL IMPACT THAT MARY HAS ON OUR CITY.
10:25:46 I COME FROM -- COME TO YOU FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF A
10:25:48 COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:25:53 ONE IS I AM A STEWARD OF OVER 160 ASSOCIATES IN YBOR
10:25:55 CITY.
10:25:59 I AM THE STEWARD OF THOUSANDS OF GUESTS AT OUR HOTELS
10:26:01 AND RESTAURANTS.
10:26:04 AND I AM A STEWARD OF PROVIDING A POSITIVE IMPACT OF
10:26:07 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THE TAMPA BAY ECONOMY.
10:26:10 AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHEN I MET MARY O'CONNOR,
10:26:14 BEING NEW TO TAMPA BAY, SHE CAME DOWN AND SAT TO ME AND
10:26:16 SAID LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PEOPLE.
10:26:18 LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT YBOR CITY IS ABOUT.
10:26:20 AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
10:26:23 A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT STOOD OUT AND A COUPLE OF
10:26:27 THINGS THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME WAS, ONE, THE HEALTH
10:26:29 AND WELFARE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:26:33 AND HOW DO WE IMPROVE THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF OUR
10:26:39 POLICE DEPARTMENT AND RETAIN POLICE MEN AND WOMEN.
10:26:40 RETENTION IS SO IMPORTANT.
10:26:43 SECOND IS, HOW DO WE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY POLICING.
10:26:45 HOW ARE WE INVOLVED.
10:26:48 SHE ALSO TALKED ABOUT NOT LOCKING UP AND RELEASING.
10:26:51 AND HELPING THE MENTAL WELLNESS OF THOSE THAT NEED IT
10:26:57 IN YBOR CITY SO I JUST WANT TO COME BEFORE YOU TODAY
10:27:00 AND GIVE RECOMMENDATION AND ENDORSEMENT FOR CITY
10:27:00 COUNCIL.
10:27:03 DON'T THINK -- MY PERSPECTIVE COMES FROM CITIES LIKE
10:27:03 SEATTLE.
10:27:06 I WAS INVOLVED THERE.
10:27:08 HOUSTON, TEXAS.
10:27:09 CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA.
10:27:10 NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE.
10:27:13 I HAVE BEEN IN THOSE COMMUNITIES WHERE I HAVE SEEN NEW
10:27:15 CHIEFS APPOINTED AND HOW WE NEED TO BE MORE
10:27:16 DIVERSIFIED.
10:27:19 I CAN TELL YOU THAT MARY O'CONNOR WILL BE THE RIGHT
10:27:20 PERSON FOR THE ROLE.
10:27:23 AT CITY COUNCIL, DON'T JUST LOOK AT STRAIGHTFORWARD,
10:27:27 NOT JUST AT THIS, BUT LOOK AT A BROADER PICTURE AND SEE
10:27:30 THE POTENTIAL IMPACT THAT MARY CAN HAVE FOR OUR CITY.
10:27:32 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE WITH YOU THIS
10:27:32 MORNING.
10:27:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:27:45 NUMBER 14.
10:27:46 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:27:48 MY NAME IS BRIAN CARPENTER.
10:27:52 I BECAME A TAMPA POLICE OFFICER ON THE SAME DAY THAT
10:27:53 MARY DID.
10:27:55 WE WERE IN THE SAME CLASS.
10:27:59 THROUGH MY CAREER, I HAD A VARIETY OF ASSIGNMENTS.
10:28:04 AND I RETIRED IN 2018 AFTER 25 YEARS.
10:28:07 I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO TELL YOU A
10:28:09 COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT MARY THAT MAY NOT BE ON HER
10:28:16 RESUME THAT YOU KNOW I LEARNED WHEN I CAME UP.
10:28:21 007 I WAS PROMOTED TO A DETECTIVE AND ASSIGNED TO
10:28:25 MARY'S BLIS SQUAD.
10:28:30 ON DAY ONE, SHE MADE IT CLEAR THAT SHE EXPECTED US, HER
10:28:33 DETECTIVES, TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND, TO DO THAT EXTRA
10:28:36 MILE.
10:28:41 AND TO STAY LATE WHENEVER IT WAS NEEDED AND SHE ALSO
10:28:46 EXPECTED US TO CONTINUE HONING OUR SKILLS AND DIFFERENT
10:28:48 QUALITIES.
10:28:57 ONE OF THOSE QUALITIES WAS COMMUNICATION AND SHARING
10:28:59 INFORMATION BETWEEN MEMBERS OF OUR DISTRICT.
10:29:05 NOT JUST WITH HER BUT ALSO WITH OUR STREET SQUADS OR
10:29:09 ANTI-CRIME SQUADS TO PROVIDE THEM THE INFORMATION SO
10:29:13 THEY CAN BETTER FOCUS ON THEIR EFFORTS.
10:29:16 BUT SHE DIDN'T STOP WITH THE COMMUNICATION.
10:29:20 SHE ENCOURAGED US AND HAD US SPEAK TO OUR PATROL UNITS
10:29:23 WHO PATROL OUR AREA AND ALSO WITH DETECTIVES IN OTHER
10:29:28 AREAS.
10:29:33 AND SHE DIDN'T LET US FALL TO THE WAYSIDE.
10:29:37 SHE SAID, HEY, COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR PEOPLE.
10:29:42 ON A DAILY BASIS, WE WOULD HEAR, DID YOU TALK TO YOUR
10:29:43 STREET CRIME SQUAD TODAY?
10:29:46 DID YOU TALK TO THE OFFICERS TODAY?
10:29:49 ASK THE DETECTIVES, DID YOUR DETECTIVE GET WITH YOU.
10:29:50 HAVE YOU BEEN COMMUNICATING?
10:29:52 THAT IS A BIG THING.
10:29:56 NEXT THING WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT IS THE COMPASSION
10:29:58 AND EMPATHY WITH VICTIMS.
10:30:01 BEING A CRIME VICTIM IS A TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE.
10:30:03 SOMEBODY BREAKS INTO YOUR HOME AND ROBS YOU AT
10:30:08 GUNPOINT, IT CREATES FEAR AND YOU FEEL VIOLATED.
10:30:11 MARY O'CONNOR MADE SURE THAT WE KNEW THAT AND ABLE TO
10:30:18 LOOK AT CRIMES FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE VICTIM.
10:30:21 SHE TOLD US AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE -- AND I REMEMBER
10:30:26 THAT THAT VICTIM IS SOMEBODY RELATIVE.
10:30:31 SOMEBODY'S GRANDMOTHER, GRANDFATHER, SOMEBODY'S SON.
10:30:33 SOMEBODY'S DAUGHTER.
10:30:38 AND SHE WANTED US TO TREAT THEM AS IF THAT WAS OUR
10:30:43 GRANDFATHER OR GRANDMOTHER OR RELATIVE AND LOOK AT IT
10:30:48 FROM THAT VIEWPOINT.
10:30:51 THROUGH ALL THIS MARY WAS ABLE TO GET US, OUR
10:30:52 DETECTIVES TO --
10:30:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:30:55 >> OKAY.
10:31:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 15.
10:31:07 >> MR. CHAIR, ROBERT RULES OF ORDER.
10:31:11 MR. DAWSON WILL GIVE ME THREE MINUTES.
10:31:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S ONE MINUTE.
10:31:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THOSE ARE ONLY DURING PUBLIC HEARING.
10:31:21 >> ROBERT RULES OF ORDER, I CAN'T GET EXTRA THREE
10:31:22 MINUTES?
10:31:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT FOR.
10:31:26 >> ARE YOU SURE.
10:31:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
10:31:29 >> OKAY.
10:31:30 I AM WASTING TIME.
10:31:32 I AM GOING TO HAVE TO TALK FAST.
10:31:33 SO I HAVE MUCH TO COVER.
10:31:39 I JUST CANNOT SEE HOW IN THE WORLD WE CAN FAULT CHIEF
10:31:42 MARY O'CONNOR FOR EVERYTHING, BICYCLES.
10:31:44 1995.
10:31:49 SPIRO AGNEW WENT TO PRISON.
10:31:51 RICHARD NIXON.
10:31:52 ATTORNEY GENERAL.
10:31:53 SHE NEVER WENT TO PRISON.
10:31:57 WE SHOULD GIVE HER AN AWARD, BECAUSE SHE STOPPED A
10:32:01 THING CALLED FRAUD IN EAST TAMPA.
10:32:06 $6 OR 7 BILLION DOLLARS.
10:32:07 SHE CAME IN AND STOPPED IT.
10:32:09 PEOPLE USING PEOPLE'S SOCIAL SECURITY AND PEOPLE USING
10:32:12 PEOPLE'S NAMES AND GETTING MONEY, FRAUD.
10:32:14 WE SHOULD GIVE HER A GOLD MEDAL.
10:32:18 AS FAR AS THE BICYCLES, SHE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
10:32:19 BICYCLES.
10:32:20 SHE WAS NOT THE CHIEF.
10:32:22 SHE WAS TAKING ORDERS.
10:32:25 WHEN THOSE BICYCLES TICKETING GOING DOWN, THE JUSTICE
10:32:29 DEPARTMENT DIDN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE TICKET WAS ABOUT.
10:32:32 THEY DIDN'T GO IN DETAIL ABOUT SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE
10:32:36 THAT BROKE INTO PEOPLE'S CARS AND STEALING BICYCLES.
10:32:37 ROBBING THEIR OWN PEOPLE.
10:32:40 QUITE NATURALLY YOU WILL GET TICKETS IN A PREDOMINANTLY
10:32:43 BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE BLACK PEOPLE STAY, BECAUSE THE
10:32:46 POPULATION IS 99% BLACK.
10:32:48 NEXT YOU WILL WRITE MORE TICKETS.
10:32:50 MARY O'CONNOR IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
10:32:51 SHE IS INNOCENT.
10:32:53 AND SHE IS QUALIFIED.
10:32:57 AND I AM GOING TO SAY THIS RIGHT HERE.
10:33:02 THE SAME MANKIND, IF A PERSON IS QUALIFIED TO DO A JOB,
10:33:06 EVEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM, BUT THEY ARE QUALIFIED TO
10:33:09 MAKE SURE YOU SAFE AT NIGHT, TO MAKE SURE YOUR FAMILY
10:33:13 CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT, AND TO MAKE SURE THIS CITY IS SAFE,
10:33:15 YOU ARE GOING TO GO AGAINST A PERSON BECAUSE YOU DON'T
10:33:17 LIKE THEM AND THEY ARE QUALIFIED FOR A JOB?
10:33:20 YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A WHOLE CITY SUFFER?
10:33:22 THE MAYOR KNOW WHAT SHE WAS DOING WHEN SHE APPOINTED
10:33:25 HER BECAUSE THE MAYOR WAS ONCE CHIEF OF POLICE.
10:33:26 SHE KNOW.
10:33:29 AND MR. BENNETT WAS ASSISTANT CHIEF.
10:33:29 HE KNOW.
10:33:30 THEY KNOW.
10:33:33 THEY KNOW WHO THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON WERE.
10:33:37 BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE HER, YOU ARE GOING IS A SAY, I
10:33:39 AM NOT GOING TO GO -- TAKING THIS PERSONAL?
10:33:42 I HAVE NOTHING PERSONAL TO GAIN FOR THIS.
10:33:43 I AM NOT A POLITICIAN.
10:33:46 A COMMON 71-YEAR-OLD MAN WHO WANTS THINGS TO GO DOWN
10:33:47 RIGHT.
10:33:48 THIS LADY HAS SUFFERED ENOUGH.
10:33:52 WE SHOULD PIN A GOLD MEDAL ON HER AND THE MAYOR BOTH.
10:33:54 BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS GOOD JOB.
10:33:58 MAYOR MARY O'CONNOR NEED TO BE THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
10:34:00 WASN'T EASY FOR A LADY BLACK OR WHITE TO BE A POLICE
10:34:03 OFFICER, BECAUSE MEN ALWAYS GOT PROMOTION OVER THEM.
10:34:06 I THINK SHE DID A TREMENDOUS GOOD JOB.
10:34:11 SO I HAVE -- I HIGHLY RECOMMEND MARY O'CONNOR.
10:34:13 SHE DOESN'T NEED TO SUFFER ANYMORE.
10:34:16 WE NEED TO PUT THE CITY ON THE MOVE AND START FIGHTING
10:34:19 CRIMES AND LET THIS FOOLISHNESS GO.
10:34:24 LEAVE MARY O'CONNOR ALONE TO WORK AND DO HER JOB, FIGHT
10:34:24 CRIME.
10:34:26 THANK YOU.
10:34:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 16.
10:34:46 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:34:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
10:34:50 >> CLARENCE JOHNSON.
10:34:53 I AM FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF TAMPA.
10:34:58 TAMPA, FLORIDA, ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WAY YONDER.
10:35:02 AS YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW MARY O'CONNOR TOO AS WELL OR
10:35:03 TOO MANY PEOPLE THAT WELL.
10:35:09 BUT WHAT I HAVE BEEN WATCHING HERE OR HEARING HERE IT
10:35:10 KIND OF AMAZES ME.
10:35:16 BECAUSE FOR ONE THING, PEOPLE WHO DO UNDERSTAND THAT
10:35:23 SHE DESERVES WHAT -- WHAT ALL THE MAYOR HAS GIVEN HER,
10:35:25 APPLIED FOR HER.
10:35:28 I THINK FOR MYSELF, BEING FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN,
10:35:32 I THINK SHE IS REAL QUALIFIED FOR THIS JOB AS I SIT
10:35:37 DOWN AND LISTEN AND LEARN FROM WHAT I AM HEARING, FROM
10:35:40 WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING.
10:35:49 AND I BELIEVE SHE IS A PERSON WITH INTEGRITY AND MORE
10:35:52 UNDERSTANDING OF THIS COUNTY, THIS TOWN.
10:35:57 BUT I DO KNOW FROM WHAT I KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW HER
10:36:02 THAT WELL, BUT I CAN SAY SHE IS QUALIFIED FOR THIS JOB.
10:36:04 THAT'S ALL I CAN TELL YOU.
10:36:05 THANK YOU.
10:36:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:36:13 NUMBER 17.
10:36:17 IF YOU HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS
10:36:20 ITEM, WE ASK YOU TO EXIT TO BRING THE OTHER SPEAKERS
10:36:30 WHO ARE DOWNSTAIRS UPSTAIRS TO SPEAK NUMBER 17.
10:36:31 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:36:33 MY NAME IS JULIA JACKSON.
10:36:38 RETIRED EDUCATOR OF OVER 15 YEARS HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH
10:36:38 COUNTY.
10:36:42 ALSO PART-TIME WRITER AND PHOTOGRAPHER FOR THE FLORIDA
10:36:43 SENTINEL BULLETIN.
10:36:51 BUT I'M HERE TODAY AS A CITIZEN OF TAMPA.
10:36:55 25 YEARS AGO I MET MARY O'CONNOR AS A COLLEGE STUDENT,
10:37:02 INTERN, THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY.
10:37:06 AS WELL AS MAYOR CASTOR, THEY WELCOMED ME IN.
10:37:10 THE OF THEM WELCOMED ME IN.
10:37:14 IT MADE IT VERY HELPFUL TO THEM.
10:37:16 IT WAS A TRYING TIME DURING THIS TIME BECAUSE TPD WAS
10:37:18 LOOKING FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS.
10:37:22 SO I WAS PUT ON THE FORCE AS A RECRUITER, AS A STUDENT
10:37:24 FROM MY OWN COLLEGE.
10:37:28 SO IT WAS VERY REWARDING MEETING AND GETTING A CHANCE
10:37:33 TO WORK IN THE TRAILS OF OUTSTANDING OFFICERS.
10:37:38 NOW WE SEEM TO RECOUNT 28 YEARS AGO OF CHIEF O'CONNOR
10:37:45 WHICH IS VERY TRIVIAL COMPARED TO WHAT IS GOING ON NOW
10:37:46 IN OUR CITY.
10:37:51 IN FACT IT IS NOT LIKE SHE IS BRAND-NEW AT TPD, YOU
10:37:51 KNOW.
10:37:52 WE HAVE TO LET IT GO.
10:37:57 CHIEF O'CONNOR HAS RECONNECTED WITH THE COMMUNITY.
10:38:00 SHE HAS ALREADY PUT HER BOOTS ON THE GROUND, SOLVING
10:38:02 COLD CASES.
10:38:04 NOT BEGINNING, SOLVING.
10:38:08 SHE UNDERSTANDS THE TAMPA CHALLENGES.
10:38:15 I FEEL WE SHOULD RESPECT THE DECISION OF MAYOR CASTOR.
10:38:17 I AM ASKING YOU TO LET IT GO.
10:38:20 I AM ASKING YOU TO LET'S GET IT ON.
10:38:21 LET'S START OVER.
10:38:27 LET'S GET TAMPA BACK IN THE GROOVE OF SOLVING CRIME.
10:38:34 PLEASE, LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND CONFIRM CHIEF O'CONNOR.
10:38:34 THANK YOU.
10:38:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:38:49 NUMBER 18.
10:38:50 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:38:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME.
10:38:58 >> AUBREY PIERCE.
10:39:03 I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MARY AND JUST FROM CITY
10:39:06 OF TAMPA ON THE EAST SIDE, SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN OUT
10:39:09 HERE -- I MEAN, I AIN'T PROUD TO SAY -- I HAVE BEEN
10:39:10 INCARCERATED SEVERAL TIMES.
10:39:12 I HAVE BEEN TO PRISON SEVERAL TIMES.
10:39:15 BUT I BELIEVE THAT EVERYBODY DESERVES ANOTHER SHOT.
10:39:18 I HAVE BEEN OUT DOING GOOD AND CLEAN, YOU KNOW.
10:39:20 EVERYTHING I DID, I DID TO MYSELF.
10:39:25 I USED TO FAULT THE POLICE AND SAY THIS AND THAT, THAT
10:39:26 THEY WERE TARGETING ME.
10:39:29 BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, I HAVE BEEN OUT EIGHT YEARS.
10:39:31 I AIN'T BEEN IN NO TROUBLE.
10:39:32 I HAVE GOT A GOOD JOB.
10:39:35 THINGS WERE BAD ON THE EAST SIDE.
10:39:39 LIKE SHOOTING, BREAKING INTO HOUSES -- AIN'T NONE OF
10:39:39 THAT.
10:39:41 MY MAMA WALKS TO THE STORE NOW.
10:39:44 WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HER GETTING MUGGED.
10:39:45 SHE CAN GO TO THE STORE.
10:39:48 SHE GOES TO THE STORE NOW EVERY DAY AND RELAX AND SIT
10:39:50 ON THE PORCH.
10:39:51 DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY OF GUNSHOTS.
10:39:53 WE SEE THE POLICE.
10:39:54 MORE INVOLVEMENT.
10:39:57 THEY ARE STOPPING AND ASKING QUESTIONS.
10:39:58 MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS ALL RIGHT.
10:40:02 WHAT SHE DID IN THE PAST, EVERYBODY ALREADY KNEW THAT.
10:40:05 WE SHOULDN'T BE YELLING THAT.
10:40:12 SHE ALREADY HAD DONE -- SHE TOOK FROM HER OWN PEERS
10:40:13 WHEN SHE COME BACK.
10:40:15 THE FORCE PRESSURE TO COME BACK AND LOOK EVERYBODY IN
10:40:17 THE FACE AND THEY KNOW YOU MESSED UP.
10:40:20 SO SHE -- SHE SUCCUMBED THAT.
10:40:24 AND WE SHOULD ALL LOOK BEYOND THAT AS A COMMUNITY AND A
10:40:24 CITY.
10:40:28 WE SHOULD LOOK PAST THAT AND TRY TO, LIKE, MAKE THIS
10:40:29 RIGHT FOR US.
10:40:31 BECAUSE I NEED -- I NEED SOMEBODY LIKE HER.
10:40:32 I WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
10:40:34 I AM ROOTING FOR SOMEBODY LIKE HER.
10:40:38 BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE NOW THE CITY IS A LITTLE SAFER ON
10:40:41 THE EAST SIDE, AT LEAST WHERE I AM AT, A LITTLE SAFER.
10:40:45 I SEE MORE POLICE ACTIVITY AND I GRATEFULLY APPRECIATE
10:40:49 THAT MY MOM, SISTER AND SON CAN WALK OUT THERE.
10:40:52 GO OUTSIDE AND PLAY AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
10:40:53 THE GUNSHOTS.
10:40:58 PEOPLE GET SHOT EVERY DAY 15TH TO 26TH.
10:41:01 POLICE SITTING -- LETTING THEM PARTY OUT, BUT NOW YOU
10:41:03 GOT TO KEEP IT MOVING.
10:41:04 NOTHING GOING ON TO BE HERE.
10:41:06 YOU DON'T LIVE HERE AND YOU ARE HERE CAUSING A
10:41:09 DISTURBANCE AND INSIDE OF TOWN, WE GOT THE CRIME RATE
10:41:10 UP.
10:41:12 NOTHING WAS GOING ON UNTIL NOW.
10:41:13 I APPRECIATE IT.
10:41:14 YOU HEAR WHAT I AM SAYING.
10:41:17 I AIN'T -- I JUST APPRECIATE WHAT IS GOING ON FOR MY
10:41:21 CITY AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
10:41:23 SINCE SHE HAS BEEN APPOINTED OR ELECTED OR WHATEVER.
10:41:28 YOU KNOW, SO I JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
10:41:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:41:43 >> YOU ARE ALL RIGHT.
10:41:44 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:41:48 NEXT SPEAKER IS NUMBER 19, YVETTE FLYNN.
10:41:49 GO AHEAD.
10:41:50 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:41:52 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:41:54 MY NAME IS YVETTE FLYNN.
10:42:00 I AM A RETIRED HISPANIC POLICE MAJOR FROM THE TAMPA
10:42:01 POLICEMEN.
10:42:04 I SERVED 21 YEARS TO THIS COMMUNION.
10:42:07 AND DURING THIS TIME, I SERVED WITH SOME OF THE FINEST
10:42:10 MEN AND WOMEN ON THIS DEPARTMENT.
10:42:15 I HAVE KNOWN AND WORKED CLOSELY WITH CHIEF-SELECT MARY
10:42:19 O'CONNOR FOR THE MAJORITY OF MY CAREER.
10:42:22 CHIEF O'CONNOR IS INTELLIGENT.
10:42:23 SHE IS CAPABLE.
10:42:28 AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, SHE HAS A SERVANT'S HEART.
10:42:33 SHE WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD COMMUNITY RELATIONS, WHICH
10:42:37 NOT ONLY BENEFIT THE HARD-WORKING POLICE OFFICERS AND
10:42:43 SUPERVISORS OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT MOST
10:42:47 IMPORTANTLY, ALL RESIDENTS.
10:42:48 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:42:53 THEY HAVE AN INHERENT RIGHT TO BE HEARD.
10:42:57 CONCERNS TO BE ADDRESSED AS IT PERTAINS TO PUBLIC
10:43:00 SAFETY AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MEN AND WOMEN OF
10:43:03 THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:43:10 I AM HONORED TODAY TO SELECT MARY O'CONNOR TO SUPPORT
10:43:14 YOUR STATUS TO CHIEF TO THIS DEPARTMENT.
10:43:18 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YEARS YOU GAVE TO THIS
10:43:21 DEPARTMENT AND THE DEDICATION, NOT ONLY TO THE
10:43:24 OFFICERS, SUPERVISORS, OFFICERS LIKE --
10:43:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAN PLEASE SPEAK IN OUR DIRECTION
10:43:28 BECAUSE OF THE MICROPHONE.
10:43:30 >> YES, OF COURSE, I AM SORRY.
10:43:31 I WANT TO APOLOGIZE.
10:43:36 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTOOD WE ARE HONORED
10:43:41 TO SUPPORT HER FOR POLICE CHIEF AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
10:43:46 THAT SHE WILL DO A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH THE RESIDENTS OF
10:43:48 POLICE DEPARTMENT AS YOU HAVE HEARD THE MEMBERS WHO ARE
10:43:51 RETIRED FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STATE, HER
10:43:56 DEDICATION AND SERVICE TO ALL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.
10:43:59 AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EACH MEMBER ON THE CITY
10:44:02 COUNCIL FOR ALL YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:44:05 AND THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR THIS TIME.
10:44:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:44:12 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, WHILE SHE WAS WALKING.
10:44:13 YVETTE FLYNN.
10:44:16 THE CITY OF TAMPA LOVES THE FLYNN FAMILY AND YOU ARE
10:44:18 ALWAYS IN OUR PRAYERS.
10:44:19 GOD BLESS YOU.
10:44:19 >> THANK YOU.
10:44:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP A LIVING LEGENDS, SENATOR
10:44:25 JOYNER.
10:44:32 >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS ARTHENIA JOYNER AND
10:44:35 LIFETIME RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND SERVED AS
10:44:40 YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND SENATOR FOR 16 YEARS IN
10:44:41 THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE.
10:44:44 I'M HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT CHIEF MARY ELIZABETH O'CONNOR
10:44:49 WHO WAS APPOINTED LAST MONTH BY MAYOR CASTOR AND IS
10:44:54 HERE TODAY FOR CONFIRMATION BY THIS AUGUST BODY.
10:44:57 THROUGHOUT MY LIFETIME, I HAVE LEARNED THAT COURAGE
10:44:58 TAKES MANY FORMS.
10:45:02 IT IS THE STUFF WE SEE WHEN A POLICE OFFICER ROLLS OUT
10:45:11 ON PATROL WITH NO GUARANTEE THAT HE OR SHE WILL RETURN
10:45:18 ALIVE OR PLACES THEIR BODY BETWEEN A CIVILIAN OF A
10:45:22 FIREFIGHT AND RUSHES TO DANGER, NOT THE OTHER
10:45:22 DIRECTION.
10:45:29 ALSO, A COURAGE WHEN A WOMAN OR MAN LAYS BEAR THE PATH
10:45:32 THEY TRAVELED TO SUCCEED TODAY'S SUCCESSES AND THE
10:45:35 CHALLENGES THEY OVERCAME TO GET WHERE THEY ARE TODAY.
10:45:40 FOR ALL OF THESE REASONS AND MORE, CHIEF O'CONNOR IS
10:45:43 ONE COURAGEOUS WOMAN.
10:45:46 IT WERE NOT FOR SECOND CHANCES, I WOULD HAVE HAD A
10:45:53 DIFFICULT TIME IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE RISING TO THE MANY
10:45:56 POSITIONS I HAD THE HONOR OF ACHIEVING.
10:46:01 I WAS ARRESTED TWICE WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE.
10:46:07 AND MY SECOND ARREST RESULTED IN A 90-DAY SENTENCE AND
10:46:14 A FINE OF $500 FOR PROTESTING SEGREGATION.
10:46:18 I SERVED TWO WEEKS IN THE LEON COUNTY JAIL.
10:46:24 AND FINALLY, THE FINE WAS PAID, PRO RATA, AND I WAS
10:46:26 RELEASED.
10:46:31 THOSE TWO INCARCERATIONS COULD POSSIBLY HAVE BLOCKED MY
10:46:32 FLORIDA BAR ADMISSION.
10:46:37 COULD HAVE DERAILED MY LEGAL CAREER AND HAMPERED ANY
10:46:41 FUTURE POLITICAL AMBITIONS THAT I HAD.
10:46:45 BUT THE FLORIDA BAR UNDERSTOOD THE CRITICAL IMPORTANCE
10:46:52 OF SECOND CHANCES.
10:46:55 SOMETHING THAT SOME PEOPLE HERE WANT TO PERPETUALLY
10:47:00 DENY IN ORDER TO BLOCK THE CONFIRMATION OF CHIEF
10:47:00 O'CONNOR.
10:47:03 THOSE CONDUCTING THIS DISCREDITING CAMPAIGN SO
10:47:09 CONFIDENT IN THEIR OWN PAST, THEIR OWN PRISTINE
10:47:16 RECORDS, THEIR OWN, THAT THEY ARE WILLING ASSAULT HER
10:47:20 CREDENTIALS AND UNDERMINE HER CONFIRMATION?
10:47:22 WE HAVE TODAY AN OUTSTANDING WOMAN OF CHARACTER,
10:47:24 COURAGE AND INTEGRITY.
10:47:27 MORE THAN DEMONSTRATED QUALIFICATION, BRAVERY AND HER
10:47:30 LOVE OF THE DEPARTMENT AND THE OFFICERS SHE COMMANDS.
10:47:32 SHE HAS MORE THAN EARNED OUR RESPECT.
10:47:37 AND SHE DESERVES HER CONFIRMATION.
10:47:43 SO IN CLOSING I ASK OF YOU, AS WE ARE ASKED IN THE
10:48:00 BIBLE, LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE
10:48:01 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:48:03 MY NAME IS DARYL PRITCHARD.
10:48:07 I AM A RETIRED CITY OF TAMPA POLICE DETECTIVE SERGEANT.
10:48:10 I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO MR. GUDES UP THERE.
10:48:13 IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.
10:48:17 IN MY CAREER, I WAS A -- A SERGEANT.
10:48:19 I WORKED PRIMARILY EAST TAMPA.
10:48:25 I ALSO WAS AN ACADEMY INSTRUCTOR AND ONE OF MY -- ONE
10:48:29 OF THE PEOPLE I HAD THE HONOR OF INSTRUCTING MR. GUDES
10:48:33 WHEN HE WORE A YOUNGER MAN'S CLOTHES.
10:48:34 GOOD TO SEE HIM AGAIN.
10:48:39 I'M HERE TODAY TO VERY PROUDLY SUPPORT THE NOMINATION
10:48:43 OF MARY O'CONNOR TO THE POSITION OF CHIEF.
10:48:53 IN MY CAREER AS I SAID I WORKED PREDOMINANTLY A STREET
10:49:00 POSITION; HOWEVER, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS I SERVED AS
10:49:03 A POSITION IN THE CRIMES BUREAU OF TAMPA POLICE
10:49:03 DEPARTMENT.
10:49:05 PRIMARILY I WAS THE SERGEANT IN CHARGE OF THE ROBBERY
10:49:08 SQUAD.
10:49:15 IN THAT, I ALSO OVERSAW THE ECONOMIC CRIMES UNIT.
10:49:18 A MARY WAS ASSIGNED AS DETECTIVE TO THAT UNIT.
10:49:26 BECAUSE OF THE DYNAMICS, I HAD TO HAVE A SECOND IN
10:49:27 COMMAND OF THAT UNIT.
10:49:34 I COULDN'T SPEND TIME NECESSARY TO BE A FULL-TIME
10:49:35 SUPERVISOR FOR THAT UNIT.
10:49:38 IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION.
10:49:45 WE HAD A FLUX OF PEOPLE LEAVING, SENIOR PEOPLE.
10:49:48 IT WAS A VERY TOUGH DECISION AND I CHOSE MARY O'CONNOR
10:49:54 TO BE MY SECOND IN COMMAND.
10:49:57 IT WAS TOUGH BECAUSE SHE WAS THE JUNIOR DETECTIVE OF
10:49:59 THAT UNIT.
10:50:08 SHE HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE 15 YEARS SENIOR TO HER AND I
10:50:12 WAS GOING TO CHOOSE HER TO OVERSEE THEM.
10:50:17 SO WHEN I TALKED TO HER ABOUT IT, SHE WAS NATURALLY A
10:50:25 LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT.
10:50:28 BUT SHE ASSIMILATED THAT RESPONSIBILITY IN AN AMAZING
10:50:29 WAY.
10:50:31 HOW I DID CHOOSE MARY O'CONNOR?
10:50:38 I TAKE THOSE DECISIONS VERY SERIOUSLY.
10:50:41 I LOOKED AT EVERY INVESTIGATION SHE WAS INVOLVED IN.
10:50:46 I READ EVERY REPORT THAT SHE WAS ASSIGNED.
10:50:49 I ASSIGNED THOSE REPORTS TO HER.
10:50:55 I SAW EVERY SUPPLEMENT SHE DID TO EVERY ONE OF THOSE
10:50:56 INVESTIGATIONS.
10:51:02 I NOTICED THAT SHE CONTACTED EVERY VICTIM OF EVERY
10:51:06 CRIME SHE WAS ASSIGNED TO INVESTIGATE.
10:51:09 PERSONALLY.
10:51:11 SHE REACHED OUT TO THEM.
10:51:13 ALSO DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, SHE INITIATED.
10:51:21 SHE INITIATED ON HER OWN SOME PROACTIVE PLANS TO
10:51:26 COUNTERACT CRIME IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:51:30 AS A LEADER ON THAT UNIT --
10:51:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TWO SECONDS --
10:51:38 >> AS A LEADER ON THAT UNIT, SHE WAS EXEMPLARY.
10:51:40 SHE LED THOSE PEOPLE.
10:51:43 SHE DID A GREAT JOB.
10:51:47 AND I WAS REALLY PROUD OF THAT.
10:51:48 WHEN THIS NASTY THING --
10:51:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
10:51:51 I GOT TO CUT YOU OFF.
10:51:52 THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
10:51:55 YOUR TIME IS OFF.
10:51:56 >> I WILL DO IT REAL QUICK.
10:51:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GAVE YOU -- I HAVE TO MOVE ON.
10:52:00 BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
10:52:02 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:52:04 NUMBER 22.
10:52:05 I GOT TO MOVE ON, DALE.
10:52:08 I GAVE YOU A FEW EXTRA SECONDS.
10:52:09 WE HAVE CERTAIN RULES HERE.
10:52:10 UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE TO MOVE ON.
10:52:13 >> ALL RIGHT, I WILL MENTION.
10:52:14 I WILL CONCLUDE.
10:52:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN'T LET YOU SPEAK.
10:52:19 NUMBER 22, KEVIN HOWELL.
10:52:20 >> THANK YOU.
10:52:22 THANK YOU, PLEASE SUPPORT MARY O'CONNOR FOR CHIEF OF
10:52:33 POLICE.
10:52:34 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:52:37 MY NAME IS KEVIN HOWELL.
10:52:41 FIRST OF ALL, SHE IS PROBABLY THE HARDEST-WORKING
10:52:42 PERSON.
10:52:44 THINK NEEDS TO GO FORWARD HERE.
10:52:48 COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE.
10:52:51 I, TOO, AS MANY PEOPLE BEFORE RETIRED FROM THE POLICE
10:52:51 DEPARTMENT.
10:52:54 THIS ISN'T ABOUT ME, WHAT I DID OR ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
10:52:57 THIS ISN'T ABOUT MY HISTORY OR REALLY WHAT ANYBODY
10:52:58 THINKS OF ME.
10:53:04 I KNOW THAT THIS PROCESS IS REALLY TOO POINTED THE WAY
10:53:05 I SEE IT.
10:53:08 THIS IS MORE OF AN ATTACK ON AN INDIVIDUAL AND ABOUT
10:53:10 THE FACT THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE WHOLE PROCESS -- THE
10:53:12 PROCESS HAS BEEN THE PROBLEM.
10:53:14 I WOULD HOPE IT WASN'T THE PERSON.
10:53:18 IN THIS SITUATION, YOU -- YOU TAKEN SOMEBODY WHO HAS AN
10:53:19 EXEMPLARY CAREER.
10:53:22 A SPOT ON HER RECORD.
10:53:23 THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
10:53:25 IT HAS NEVER BEEN HIDDEN.
10:53:28 I THINK WHAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT SPOT ON
10:53:30 THE RECORD IS THAT MANY PEOPLE SITTING HERE TODAY CAN
10:53:33 NEVER SAY THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD SOMETHING THAT HAS COME
10:53:35 UP IN THEIR PAST.
10:53:38 SOMETHING -- NO MATTER HOW MINOR OR MAJOR IT WAS AS
10:53:43 MISS JOYNER POINTED OUT THAT WE NEED TO LEARN FROM.
10:53:46 SOME OF THESE ARE STORIES THAT MAYBE WE HAVEN'T GOT
10:53:50 CAUGHT DOING AND SHARE WITH OUR CLOSEST CALF DANTS AND
10:53:53 MAYBE LAUGH ABOUT IT, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO
10:53:56 SAY THEY LIVED THROUGH THAT, PRESENT THAT FORWARD,
10:53:58 LEARN FROM THAT, AND THEN BECOME A MORE STELLAR
10:54:01 INDIVIDUAL IN SOCIETY?
10:54:04 YOU HEARD THAT HAVE SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE HERE.
10:54:07 I HAD THE HONOR WITH EVERY ONE OF THE OFFICERS SPOKE
10:54:10 AND RETIRED TO WORK WITH THEM, FOR THEM, BESIDE THEM,
10:54:12 TRAINED THEM, WHAT HAVE YOU.
10:54:14 AND EVERY SINGLE ONE IS EXEMPLARY.
10:54:16 I THINK HIGHLY OF BUTCH.
10:54:19 A WRAVL WONDERFUL INDIVIDUAL AND A GREAT COP TOO.
10:54:23 MARY HAS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY
10:54:23 NEEDS.
10:54:27 BRINGS TO FORTH LISTENING TO CITY COUNCIL.
10:54:30 THE CHIEF WILL NOT COME AND BE ARGUMENTATIVE.
10:54:33 NOT HERE TO YELL AT YOU BUT WILL WORK WITH YOU.
10:54:35 THAT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND TOO.
10:54:36 I WROTE THIS WONDERFUL THING.
10:54:39 I AM NOT GOING TO READ IT BECAUSE IT IS MORE ABOUT,
10:54:41 AGAIN, THE PROCESS AND WHO THE CHARACTER IS.
10:54:43 MY FAMILY LIVES IN THIS CITY.
10:54:47 MY FAMILY -- MY WIFE'S FAMILY IS EMBEDDED IN THE CITY
10:54:49 FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
10:54:51 MANY OF YOU ON THE COUNCIL KNOW MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT
10:54:55 MY FAMILY IS -- THEY ARE WELL-RESPECTED IN THIS
10:54:56 COMMUNITY WELL.
10:55:00 BUT I WANT TO YOU UNDERSTAND WITH MARY THAT ONE OF THE
10:55:06 KEY PARTS HERE IS THAT WE -- WE LEARN FROM MISTAKES.
10:55:07 AND THAT HAS BEEN BEAT.
10:55:08 YOU.
10:55:10 BUT REMEMBER THAT THE REASON BEHIND SOME OF THOSE
10:55:12 MISTAKES IS WE LEARN FROM THE LESSONS THAT WE
10:55:14 DEVELOPMENTS KNOW WHAT DROVE THEM.
10:55:17 WE DON'T KNOW THE FACT THAT A DECISION -- A POOR
10:55:20 DECISION THAT WAS MADE MONTHS AFTER AN INCIDENT WHERE
10:55:24 SHE HAD TO TELL AN OFFICER THAT EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO
10:55:27 BE OKAY NOT BELIEVING IT HERSELF.
10:55:31 I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE THAT I WAS PERSON.
10:55:33 AND SHE WAS THE ONE SAYING SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW
10:55:35 IF SHE BELIEVED.
10:55:38 BUT THAT I BELIEVE DROVE HER TO A POINT WHERE SHE MAY
10:55:40 HAVE MADE A POOR DECISION.
10:55:42 BUT SHE HAS LEARNED FROM THAT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE
10:55:43 THAT THIS COUNCIL MOVE FORWARD.
10:55:45 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:55:46 I APPRECIATE IT.
10:55:47 YOU HAVE A NICE DAY.
10:55:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, KEVIN.
10:55:52 COUNCIL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW KEVIN'S STORY OR NOT.
10:55:55 I REMEMBER THAT NIGHT.
10:55:58 YOU REMEMBER THAT NIGHT.
10:56:00 I SAY THANK GOD.
10:56:04 BECAUSE KEVIN REALLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE, GENTLEMEN.
10:56:06 KEVIN SHOULDN'T BE HERE.
10:56:08 HIM AND MIKE.
10:56:12 BUT GOD CHOSE FOR THEM TO STILL BE HERE WITH US.
10:56:14 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, BECAUSE THAT
10:56:16 WAS ONE HELL OF A NIGHT.
10:56:16 KEVIN WAS SHOT.
10:56:18 SHOT VERY BADLY.
10:56:20 SO WAS MIKE.
10:56:23 MIKE NEEDED THIS COMMUNITY SO BAD TO GIVE BLOOD --
10:56:26 BECAUSE NORMALLY WHEN YOU GIVE BLOOD, THE HOSPITAL AT
10:56:28 A CERTAIN POINT THEY STOP BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT THE
10:56:31 BLOOD CAN BE UTILIZED FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO SAVE THEIR
10:56:32 LIVES.
10:56:35 BUT THIS COMMUNITY CAME THROUGH FOR BOTH THESE
10:56:37 GENTLEMEN AND GAVE BLOOD CONTINUOUSLY SO THEY COULD
10:56:38 LIVE.
10:56:40 I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
10:56:41 THANK YOU.
10:56:42 >> I APPRECIATE IT.
10:56:46 MORE ABOUT THE CITY AND ITS PEOPLE.
10:56:51 ITS CONSTITUENTS THE PEOPLE WE DO IT FOR.
10:56:53 THE PLEASURE HAS BEEN MINE.
10:56:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:56:56 WE WILL MOVE ON.
10:56:58 NUMBER 23.
10:57:00 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:57:02 MY NAME IS SIMON CANASI.
10:57:05 I AM THE FATHER OF A FIRST RESPONDER FOR TAMPA FIRE AND
10:57:09 RESCUE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE FRIENDS OF TAMPA FIRE
10:57:12 FIGHTERS, WHERE I SERVE WITH CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP, WHO
10:57:18 BY THE WAY, WAS APPOINTED BY MAYOR JANE CASTOR AND IT
10:57:19 HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE APPOINTMENT.
10:57:22 FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE
10:57:24 OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU AND SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
10:57:26 MARY O'CONNOR.
10:57:30 MOST OF YOU -- MOST OF YOU KNOW ME VERY WELL AND KNOW
10:57:34 TWO THINGS ABOUT ME, I LOVE MY CITY AND I PULL NO
10:57:35 PUNCHES.
10:57:39 LET ME BEGIN BY TELLING YOU WHEN REUBEN DELGADO DID NOT
10:57:42 GET THE APPOINTMENT I WAS EXTREME WILL HE DISAPPOINTED
10:57:44 TO SAY THE LEAST.
10:57:48 THE MAYOR KNEW OF MY DISAPPOINTMENT AND REACHED OUT TO
10:57:53 ME AS A LEADER OF THE HISPANIC TO JUSTIFY HER POSITION.
10:57:57 I RESPECTED IT BECAUSE SHE WAS JUAN CHIEF OF POLICE AND
10:58:00 WELL VERSED IN WHAT IT TAKES TO BE THE CHIEF OF POLICE
10:58:01 AND WHO AM I TO QUESTION IT.
10:58:05 OUR MAYOR WAS NOT JUST ELECTED IN 2019, IT WAS A
10:58:06 MANDATE.
10:58:08 THE VICTOR GOES THE SPOILS.
10:58:12 NO EGREGIOUS REASON NOT TO CONFIRM THIS APPOINTMENT.
10:58:17 I HEARD LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN THE PROCESS AND ASK YOU
10:58:19 TO LOOK INWARD WOULD YOU HAVE QUESTIONED THE PROCESS
10:58:23 SHOULD REUBEN DELGADO.
10:58:26 I HEARD OF THE INCIDENT IN 1995, 28 YEARS AGO BETWEEN A
10:58:30 25-YEAR-OLD YOUNG WOMAN WITH A MOMENTARILY LAPSE IN
10:58:34 JUDGMENT AND SINCE LED A EXEMPLARY LIFE AS A LAW
10:58:36 ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, WIFE AND MOTHER.
10:58:40 I JUDGE PEOPLE BY THE TOTALITY OF THEIR MERITS, NOT BY
10:58:43 AN ISOLATE INCIDENT AND I WOULD HOPE THIS COUNCIL DOES
10:58:43 THE SAME.
10:58:46 A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO I, ALONG WITH OTHER COMMUNITY
10:58:50 LEADERS, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET MARY O'CONNOR FOR
10:58:55 LUNCH AT ACACCITORE'S AND SONS IN ARMENIA IN THE HEART
10:58:59 OF THE HISPANIC DISTRICT OF WEST TAMPA.
10:59:03 SHE WILL TELL YOU HERSELF WE PULLED NO PUNCHES.
10:59:06 HER RESPONSES WERE FORTHRIGHT AND WE FOUND HER
10:59:07 ENGAGING.
10:59:14 WE FELT THIS A PERSON READY TO LEAD.
10:59:18 I SPEAK FOR EVERYONE THAT DAY THAT WE SUPPORT.
10:59:23 THE TAMPA BAY TIMES ENCOURAGE HER NOMINATION.
10:59:26 I FULLY BELIEVE THAT REUBEN DELGADO WILL BE STANDING
10:59:28 BEFORE YOU FOR HIS NOMINATION SOME DAY.
10:59:31 HE IS A CLASS ACT AND WORTHY.
10:59:32 TODAY IS NOT THE DAY.
10:59:36 TODAY IS ABOUT MARY O'CONNOR, IRONICALLY ENOUGH ON ST.
10:59:38 PATRICK'S DAY.
10:59:40 THIS IS A GAME OF CHESS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TIME.
10:59:44 WE NEED A POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO NEEDS ITS LEADERSHIP IN
10:59:45 PLACE.
10:59:50 I WATCHED YOU EXERCISE STATESMANSHIP OVER POLITICS ON
10:59:54 MANY ISSUES AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.
10:59:57 A MOMENT FOR STATESMENSHIP.
11:00:00 IT TELLS TO YOU ALWAYS DO WHAT IS DECENT AND NOT
11:00:01 NECESSARILY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
11:00:04 IT IS NEVER THE WRONG THING TO DO AND LUCKILY FOR YOU
11:00:08 IN THAT CASE THE RIGHT AND DECENT THING TO DO.
11:00:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:00:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:00:21 NUMBER 24.
11:00:25 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, BRIAN D. FREY.
11:00:28 AS I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF KNOWING MANY OF YOU, I AM A
11:00:30 NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY LEADER AND HIS HAVE THE
11:00:32 PRIVILEGE AND HONOR OF KNOWING SO MANY OF THESE
11:00:34 WONDERFUL FOLKS FROM THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT BEHIND
11:00:35 ME.
11:00:41 I WAS AS DISAPPOINTED THAT BUTCH DELGADO WASN'T
11:00:44 APPOINTED, BUT I WILL SAY THIS.
11:00:49 MY ADMIRATION AND RESPECT FOR HIM, FOR LEE BERCAW,
11:00:53 MAJOR MAKE STOUT AND THE ENTIRE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT
11:00:58 FOR WHAT THEY DO AND WHAT THEY DO WITH SO WELL FOR OUR
11:00:59 COMMUNITY IS UNWAVERING.
11:01:02 I DON'T HAVE WITTY ANTIDOTES ABOUT MARY O'CONNOR.
11:01:04 I DID READ A LOT ABOUT THIS LADY.
11:01:08 AND SHE WAS THE DETECTIVE-SERGEANT IN DISTRICT 2 WHERE
11:01:11 I LIVE IN ARGUABLY IN PROBABLY THE LARGEST REDUCTION IN
11:01:14 VIOLENT CRIME IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY.
11:01:18 I KNOW THAT SHE IS AN ADVOCATE FOR VICTIMS OF VIOLENT
11:01:20 CRIME AND VICTIMS OF CRIME PERIOD.
11:01:23 MY INTERACTION WITH MARY ACTUALLY THE FIRST TIME WAS
11:01:28 THIS PAST SATURDAY WHEN OUR CITY HAD THE WONDERFUL
11:01:31 FORETHOUGHT TO HOST A NEIGHBORHOOD RETREAT OF ALL
11:01:33 NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:01:36 AN HONORABLE TIME BE ALL TOGETHER.
11:01:40 AND MARY THANKFULLY WAS THE LAST PERSON THAT TOOK US
11:01:46 FROM THAT MEETING OUT BACK INTO OUR CITY.
11:01:48 WHAT A WAY TO FINISH.
11:01:52 A WONDERFUL MEETING WITH SOMEONE WHO TRULY SHOWED HER
11:01:57 PASSION AND WHO TRULY SHOWED HOW DEDICATED SHE WAS TO
11:01:59 OUR CITY AND I HAVE TO TELL THAT YOU EVERY SINGLE
11:02:02 PERSON IN THAT ROOM I WOULD HAVE TO THINK THOUGHT THE
11:02:04 VERY SAME THING THINK THAT DID.
11:02:09 OUR CITY, OUR NATION, OUR WORLD HAS BEEN RIDDLED WITH
11:02:13 DEVISIVENESS SO INCH THESE LAST TWO YEARS AND SOMETIMES
11:02:14 IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS.
11:02:16 NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO CONTINUE THAT.
11:02:22 NOW IS THE TIME TO AFFIRM THIS LADY WHO HAS RISEN IN
11:02:25 THE RANKS BOTH LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY AND PROVEN
11:02:26 HERSELF.
11:02:29 THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PERSON IN THIS ROOM WHO HAS NOT
11:02:32 BEEN GIVEN THE SECOND CHANCE OF SOMEHOW IN THEIR LIFE.
11:02:36 AND I THINK WHAT WE DO WITH THOSE SECOND CHANCES IS HOW
11:02:38 WE ARE JUDGED FOR OUR FUTURE.
11:02:41 AND I THINK THERE IS NO PERSON BETTER THAN HAS CARRY
11:02:46 AUDITOR MUCH OR A BATON AND AN OLYMPIC RACE TO DO
11:02:50 BETTER FOR HERSELF, HER CITY AND THE THAN MARY
11:02:50 O'CONNOR.
11:02:53 I ASK THAT YOU GOD BLESS NEW YOUR DECISION.
11:02:54 GOD BLESS OUR CITY.
11:02:56 AND GOD BLESS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
11:02:57 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:02:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, BRIAN.
11:03:14 NUMBER 25.
11:03:15 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
11:03:18 THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S DECISION
11:03:21 WAS FINAL IN THE CHARTER.
11:03:24 THE CITY ATTORNEY IS FINAL.
11:03:25 LEGAL OPINION.
11:03:27 DON'T MATTER.
11:03:30 THE LADY IS THE CHIEF.
11:03:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOUR NAME, SIR.
11:03:36 >> CONSULT, BUSINESS ENGINEER.
11:03:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE KNOW YOU JOE ROBINSON.
11:03:41 WE NEED IT FOR THE RECORD.
11:03:42 >> JOE ROBINSON.
11:03:45 JOSEPH ROBINSON.
11:03:48 JOE ROBINSON FBI NAME.
11:03:51 VICE-CHAIR OF THE CAC, SECOND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE
11:03:53 NAACP.
11:04:00 TAXPAYER, SACRED HEART CATHOLIC CHURCH AND DIE HARD
11:04:02 IOWA HAWKEYE FAN.
11:04:06 I CAN'T WAIT TO GET TO THE GAME AND THEN I WILL BE
11:04:09 CELEBRATING MY BIRTHDAY WITH MY DAUGHTER.
11:04:11 DELGADO, THANK YOU.
11:04:13 WEST TAMPA LOVE YOU.
11:04:15 BERCAW, WE LOVE YOU.
11:04:18 JOHN BENNETT, THANKS FOR A HAVING LUNCH WITH ME, MAN.
11:04:20 LISTEN, LET'S MOVE ON.
11:04:22 THIS THING IS A DEAD HORSE.
11:04:23 Y'ALL HAVE A ELECTION TO RUN.
11:04:25 YOU HAVE ONE YEAR TO GET BACK.
11:04:26 YOU HAVE TO APPOINT ANOTHER PERSON.
11:04:28 I MIGHT PUT MY NAME IN.
11:04:30 I AM TELLING ON TV NOW.
11:04:31 KEEP IT REAL.
11:04:33 YOU NEED SOMEBODY THAT KNOW KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON.
11:04:35 I AM TELLING YOU RIGHT UP FRONT.
11:04:38 YOU CAN'T THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER.
11:04:42 WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING ON HANNA.
11:04:46 GUIDO, YOU SEE ME AT CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY.
11:04:48 CHARLIE YOU KNOW I AM ON THE WEST SIDE.
11:04:50 JOE CITRO, COME ON NOW.
11:04:52 CARLSON, COME ON, MAN.
11:04:55 YOU KNOW I AM KEEPING IT REAL BECAUSE THE FBI IS RIGHT
11:04:56 HERE LOOKING.
11:04:57 THIS LADY HAS EXPERIENCE.
11:05:00 SHE MIGHT SAVE YOU, RIGHT, JOHN.
11:05:06 LISTEN, I HEAR ALL OF THIS -- GRANT IT BACK -- BRADY
11:05:06 BACK.
11:05:07 BRADY BACK.
11:05:08 LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
11:05:10 LET'S MOVE ON FROM THERE.
11:05:11 THE LAST THING -- I HAVE ANOTHER MINUTE.
11:05:12 IT IS MY BIRTHDAY.
11:05:15 I AM COMING DOWN ON MY BIRTHDAY.
11:05:19 SUPPOSED TO SHALL TALKING ABOUT HANNA AVENUE.
11:05:21 YOU MOVED THAT TO THE 31ST.
11:05:24 I'M FINE -- THIS IS MY BIRTHDAY.
11:05:26 I WILL TELL YOU HOW SERIOUS THIS IS.
11:05:28 I DON'T NORMALLY COME DOWN HERE.
11:05:31 I HAVE MY HAT ON AND READY TO PARTY.
11:05:33 DWI -- SOMEBODY PICK ME UP NOW.
11:05:35 BUT I WANT TO KEEP IT REAL.
11:05:37 AND I WANT TO KEEP IT REAL.
11:05:41 REMEMBER THIS.
11:05:43 THE FORTUNE FAVORS THE BRAVE.
11:05:51 I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU THAT, FORTUNE BENEFITS THE
11:05:52 BRAVE.
11:05:54 DON'T PLAYER HATING.
11:05:54 PLAYER HATING OUT THERE.
11:05:56 I AM TALKING STREET.
11:05:59 PLAYER HATERS KEEP PLAYING HATE.
11:06:00 THEY HAVE PLAYER HATERS OUT THERE.
11:06:03 THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON BUT THEY WANT TO BE
11:06:03 IMPORTANT, OKAY.
11:06:05 THEY WANT TO BE IMPORTANT.
11:06:10 GET OUT HERE AND DO SOMETHING AND YOU CAN GET A TRAIL
11:06:13 BLAZER AWARD FROM CITY COUNCIL.
11:06:14 LET'S BE REAL.
11:06:16 LET'S CUT THIS NONSENSE OUT.
11:06:19 WHEN I LEAVE HERE, I AM GOING TO HIT IT AND PROBABLY
11:06:20 WAKE UP IN THE MORNING FEELING IT.
11:06:24 AND I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR AND I WANT TO THANK ALL
11:06:27 OUR IRISH.
11:06:33 A LOT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW MY GRANDFATHER WAS SCOTTISH.
11:06:36 AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE ON MY BIRTHDAY, MR.
11:06:37 GUDES.
11:06:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOLDS THE RECORD OF TRACK AT TAMPA
11:06:40 CATHOLIC.
11:06:44 >> 9.8.
11:06:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 9.8.
11:06:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 26.
11:07:02 >> HELLO I AM SOVEREIGN DESPOT KING QUEEN KING
11:07:08 JOHNNY AMERICA YAHWEH YAHIM SIAM.
11:07:13 AND I AM KING PRINCE HARRY'S CHILD.
11:07:16 NOW LET ME EXPLAIN THIS.
11:07:20 WHAT HAPPENED WITH UKRAINE AND HAS ALREADY BEEN WON.
11:07:27 SO, YEAH RUSSIA PULL OUT THEIR TROOPS.
11:07:29 AND WITH YOU CARRY THEM TOO.
11:07:33 NOW LISTEN UP, TODAY WE ARE REOPENING GOVERNMENT.
11:07:35 AIN'T NO CITY OF TAMPA GOVERNMENT.
11:07:42 THIS IS MOSCOW, GAINESVILLE LIKE WE TOLD YOU AND THE
11:07:45 UNITED STATES IS BEING DISSOLVED SINCE 2011.
11:07:47 I TOLD YOU THE CHIEF OF POLICE AN CAN'T DO ANYTHING THE
11:07:50 FIRST TIME BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHEN I MAKE A DECISION IT'S
11:07:52 FINAL.
11:07:56 AND ALSO, THESE GROCERY STORES DOCTOR I AM GOING TO
11:07:57 REOPEN THEM TODAY.
11:08:00 BUT LISTEN UP, Y'ALL ARE GOING TO LEARN HOW TO WORK
11:08:02 THIS BAR TAB.
11:08:06 I AM NOT OPENING NO 114 TRILLION BAR TAB FOR YOU TO SIT
11:08:08 THERE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO ROB IT.
11:08:10 YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ROB IT.
11:08:12 TELL YOU HUE TAB WORKS.
11:08:14 WHEN SOMEBODY BUYS SOMETHING FROM YOUR BAR OR GROCERY
11:08:15 STORE YOU WILL MARK IT OFF.
11:08:17 THAT IS HOW YOU WORK A TAB.
11:08:20 NO YOU ARE NOT DRAWING ANY MONEY OFF OF IT.
11:08:21 IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
11:08:23 NO YOU CAN NOT ROB IT.
11:08:27 TELL YOU ALL -- TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ROB STUFF.
11:08:33 NOW, LOOK, THOSE WHO DID BECOME WILLING VOLUNTEERS WHO
11:08:35 WANTED TO BECOME WORKERS.
11:08:38 WORKERS YOU GET PAID $3.47.
11:08:42 ONLY WHEN A VOLUNTEER GETS $800 AN HOUR BECAUSE THAT IS
11:08:46 THEIR ALLOWANCE PAID IN FULL AND ALL OF THEIR STUFF
11:08:49 BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES WHO DECIDED TO BE TRUE
11:08:54 SOVEREIGN MEMBERS NOW YOU DECIDED TO STAY DOWN WITH THE
11:08:56 STATE AND DON'T GIVE A DARN.
11:08:59 YOU ARE ONE THAT HAVE FINALIZED YOUR DECISION AT $3.47
11:09:03 AN HOUR.
11:09:05 TELL YOU ONCE I OPEN THE WINDOW I WILL LEAVE IT OPEN
11:09:11 FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THEN I AM GOING TO CLOSE IT.
11:09:15 NOW IT IS NOT TP, IT IS INTERNATIONAL TAMPA POLICE
11:09:17 DEPARTMENT AGENCY.
11:09:19 DEPARTMENT FOR A CLOTHING STORE.
11:09:22 YOU AIN'T SEE NO CLOTHES IN THERE.
11:09:26 AND THE COMPANY, THAT IS CIA.
11:09:29 AND I MAY EXPLAIN THE REST DOWNSTAIRS.
11:09:32 THANK YOU.
11:09:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:09:46 NUMBER 27.
11:09:48 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:09:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME.
11:09:51 >> AN HONOR TO BE HERE.
11:09:55 SCOTT BULLARD, RETIRED DETECTIVE FROM TAMPA POLICE.
11:09:58 I STARTED MY CAREER IN 1997.
11:10:01 2008 I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A JUNIOR DETECTIVE
11:10:03 AND WORK WITH MARY O'CONNOR.
11:10:05 SINCE I WORKED WITH HER, I CONTINUED ON AND WENT TO
11:10:08 HOMICIDE AND AFTER I RETIRED, I WENT TO THE DEPARTMENT
11:10:12 OF JUSTICE AND WORKED FOR THE FBI FOR THREE YEARS.
11:10:14 SINCE THEN, I MOVED BACK TO TAMPA.
11:10:19 WHEN I WORKED FOR MARY IN 2008 TO 2011, I LEARNED SHE
11:10:22 HAD EXCEPTIONAL LEADERSHIP SKILLS, TWO OF WHICH WAS THE
11:10:26 ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE AND HER COMMITMENT TO HER WORK.
11:10:30 WHEN SHE COMMUNICATED WITH US, SHE CREATED THIS
11:10:32 ATMOSPHERE OF COMPETITION AND TEAMWORK.
11:10:35 WOULD YOU THINK THAT DOESN'T REALLY MATCH UP, BUT
11:10:38 FASTER THIS ENVIRONMENT TO WHERE US AS DETECTIVES, WE
11:10:42 COMMUNICATED WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS.
11:10:47 SHE ENCOURAGED US TO SPEAK AND TO TEACH ONE ANOTHER AND
11:10:50 TO LEARN HOW SO SOLVE CRIMES BETTER.
11:10:52 SHE ALSO ENCOURAGED US TO LEARN AND TRAIN.
11:10:56 SHE WANTED US TO BETTER OURSELVES AS DETECTIVES, AS
11:10:57 PATROL MEN.
11:11:00 TRAINING WAS ONE OF HER TOP PRIORITIES.
11:11:04 ALL OF US WANTED WORK ALL OF THE TIME AND MORALE WAS
11:11:05 HIGH.
11:11:07 WE REALLY ENJOY IT.
11:11:09 OFTENTIMES WATCHED HER COMMUNICATE WITH MANAGEMENT FROM
11:11:11 OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
11:11:13 THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE STATE
11:11:17 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, FBI, ATF, U.S. MARSHAL'S SERVICE.
11:11:19 THE COMMUNICATION SKILLS SOLVE CASES.
11:11:22 THEY RECOVERED PROPERTY.
11:11:24 THEY LOWERED THE CRIME RATE.
11:11:27 THEY HELPED THE VICTIMS.
11:11:29 SECOND LEADERSHIP SKILLS COMMENDED.
11:11:32 SHE KNEW AND MEMORIZED ALL THE CASE DETAILS.
11:11:34 SHE WOULDN'T LEAVE A STONE UNTURNED.
11:11:37 DIDN'T MATTER IF THE CASE WAS BIG OR SMALL.
11:11:41 SHE WANTED US TO FOLLOW UP ON FINGERPRINTS, DNA, VIDEO
11:11:44 SURVEILLANCE, INTERVIEW WITNESSES ARE INTERVIEW
11:11:44 NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE.
11:11:46 EVERYBODY.
11:11:49 EVERY LEAD COUNTED.
11:11:51 SHE WAS ALWAYS AT WORK.
11:11:52 SHE ARRIVED EARLY.
11:11:53 SHE STAYED LATE.
11:11:57 CAME IN ON THE WEEKENDS, MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, HOLIDAYS,
11:11:58 ALL THE TIME.
11:12:01 SHE IS ALSO COMMITTED TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:12:04 SHE IS ATTENDED SEVERAL CRIME WATCH MEETINGS.
11:12:05 I HAVE BEEN WITH HER.
11:12:08 WE HAVE MET WITH THE MOTHERS OF MISSING CHILDREN.
11:12:11 WE HAVE VISITED VICTIMS TO CHECK ON THEIR WELFARE,
11:12:14 THEIR INJURIES, MAKE SURE THE CASE WAS DEVELOPING AND
11:12:17 PROGRESSING IN A WAY THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE.
11:12:21 SHE HAS COLLECTED DONATIONS TO REPLACE CHRISTMAS GIFTS
11:12:24 ON CHRISTMAS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAD THEIR CHRISTMAS GIFTS
11:12:26 STOLEN.
11:12:29 IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW THAT MARY O'CONNOR IS A
11:12:29 GREAT LEADER.
11:12:32 SHE HAS OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION AND COMMITTED NOT
11:12:36 ONLY TO THE POLICE BUT ALSO TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:12:39 MARY O'CONNOR IS THE PERFECT CANDIDATE FOR CHIEF OF
11:12:39 POLICE.
11:12:40 THANK YOU.
11:12:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:12:46 NUMBER 28.
11:12:50 NUMBER 28.
11:12:52 NUMBER 28.
11:12:55 WE WILL MOVE ON.
11:13:01 CROSSED OUT SOME FOLKS HERE.
11:13:03 NUMBER 33.
11:13:06 33?
11:13:08 I CAN'T READ THAT.
11:13:09 GONZALEZ LAST NAME?
11:13:10 ALL RIGHT.
11:13:16 I DIDN'T SEE -- NUMBER 28.
11:13:17 >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.
11:13:20 GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN, CITY COUNCIL.
11:13:26 TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, IF YOU WERE WATCHING, TO MISS
11:13:28 O'CONNOR AS WELL.
11:13:30 I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE APPOINTMENT OF
11:13:32 MISS O'CONNOR.
11:13:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOUR NAME.
11:13:37 >> GONZALEZ MOTIERI.
11:13:40 I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO MISS O'CONNOR, NOT
11:13:43 ANY CONCERNS OF CONTENT OF HER CHARACTER.
11:13:46 I MEAN, NOBODY KNOWS MORE ABOUT SECOND CHANCES THAN I
11:13:48 DO.
11:13:53 SO I AM A BIG PROPONENT OF THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW MISS
11:13:55 O'CONNOR PERSONALLY.
11:13:58 IT WOULD BE A FALLACY ON MY PART TO JUDGE HER
11:14:02 ELIGIBILITY FOR THE POSITION; HOWEVER, I AM OPPOSING
11:14:06 HER APPOINTMENT ON THE BASIS OF THE UNILATERAL PROCESS
11:14:09 THAT WAS USED IN THE SELECTION.
11:14:12 I BELIEVE THAT WAS WRONG.
11:14:15 WHILE I DO BELIEVE THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ULTIMATELY
11:14:19 DOES HAVE THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST AT HEART, GIVEN ITS
11:14:23 CHECKERED HISTORY, I WOULD -- IT WOULD BE REMISSED IF I
11:14:27 DIDN'T QUESTION THE MAYOR'S OFFICE JUDGMENT ESPECIALLY
11:14:30 WHEN IT COMES TO CHOOSING THE NEXT CHIEF OF POLICE.
11:14:34 I SAY THIS BECAUSE OF THE DISGRACEFUL TENURE OF FORMER
11:14:37 CHIEF BRIAN DUGAN AND HIS INCLINATIONS TOWARD
11:14:40 AUTHORITARIANISM.
11:14:44 IT STINGS THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY
11:14:46 AMONG THE BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY.
11:14:48 THAT INCLINATION IS BEST ILLUSTRATED BY THE
11:14:53 DISPROPORTIONATE AND BIASED RESPONSE TO BLACK LIVES
11:14:54 PROTEST IN 2020.
11:14:58 ENCOURAGED BYSTANDERS TO USE VEHICLES AS WEAPONS.
11:15:02 THAT LED TO SEVERAL CITIZENS BEING HARMED BY THE POLICE
11:15:06 DEPARTMENT, SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS.
11:15:09 TO HARM US INSTEAD OF SERVING AND PROTECT US.
11:15:14 DURING THIS TIME OF NECESSARY UPHEAVAL AND THE
11:15:18 LEGITIMACY OF OUR INSTITUTIONS ARE BEING CALLED INTO
11:15:18 QUESTION.
11:15:22 I AM CHALLENGING THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO SERVE RESOLUTELY
11:15:24 ON THE SIDE OF DEMOCRACY.
11:15:26 LET US KNOW WHO THE CANDIDATES ARE.
11:15:30 IF MISS O'CONNOR IS TRULY THE BEST CANDIDATE, LET HER
11:15:33 QUALIFICATIONS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES AS WE MEASURE THEM
11:15:36 ALONGSIDE THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES.
11:15:39 PEOPLE OF THIS CITY NEED HOPE.
11:15:42 AND UP TO THE PEOPLE IN LEADERSHIP TO INSPIRE THAT
11:15:42 HOPE.
11:15:47 FOR THAT REASON I AM REQUESTING THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
11:15:50 RETRACT THEIR UNILATERAL APPOINTMENT OF MISS O'CONNOR
11:15:54 AND INSTEAD OPT FOR A MORE INCLUSIVE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS
11:15:56 THAT INCLUDES THE INPUT OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND
11:15:58 CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT CITY.
11:16:04 ALSO THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK, TOM BRADY.
11:16:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 34.
11:16:16 >> YES.
11:16:21 MY NAME IS KAREN PEOPLES.
11:16:24 AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS
11:16:26 OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU AND SPEAK.
11:16:30 I HAVE NO TIME TO BE A LONG-DRAWN-OUT CONVERSATION WITH
11:16:30 YOU ALL.
11:16:32 I AM GOING TO GET RIGHT TO THE POINT.
11:16:38 MY THING IS, MARY O'CONNOR WAS SELECTED BY THE MAYOR,
11:16:41 BUT WE ALSO SELECTED THE MAYOR.
11:16:43 I CAMPAIGN FOR THE MAYOR.
11:16:47 I WORKED HARD FOR GIVING HER IN HER POSITION.
11:16:51 SO I SAY WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE HERE, MARY O'CONNOR,
11:16:55 DELGADO THAT WILL BE -- LEADERSHIP HERE.
11:17:00 AND I ALSO SAY LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND LET'S GO AHEAD ON
11:17:03 AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT BRING THESE PEOPLE
11:17:07 BECAUSE I MADE PRESIDENT OF CRIME WATCH NORTHEAST IN.
11:17:12 AND MY THING IS THAT SHE IS GOING TO BE A PART OF MY
11:17:17 GROUP IN REFERENCE TO HELP ME DO BETTER IN THE CITY OF
11:17:17 TAMPA.
11:17:19 THE CITY OF TAMPA IT GROWING.
11:17:21 AND WE NEED TO GROW WITH IT.
11:17:24 IF THERE IS A PROBLEM AND THERE HAVE BEEN PROBLEMS,
11:17:27 MANY PROBLEMS, LET'S COME TO THE TABLE, ALL OF US, AND
11:17:29 MAKE A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.
11:17:33 AND LET'S SOLVE THE PROBLEM BY GIVING HER AN
11:17:37 OPPORTUNITY TO BE THAT PERSON TO HELP US SOLVE THE
11:17:38 PROBLEM.
11:17:39 I AM NOT HERE TO BADGER ANYBODY.
11:17:40 I CAN'T.
11:17:41 AND I AM NOT.
11:17:45 BUT I'M HERE TO SAY AS A LEADER IN THE COMMUNITY OF THE
11:17:54 CITY OF TAMPA, I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND ALSO SAY THAT
11:17:58 JANE CASTOR BEING THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS
11:18:01 MADE HER CHOICE, AND I AM GOING TO BACK HER CHOICE.
11:18:05 IF ANYBODY DON'T CARE ABOUT OR HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT
11:18:06 I SAY, SEE ME LATER.
11:18:08 BUT THE THING IS, I AM A GROWN WOMAN.
11:18:10 NO ONE FORCED ME TO COME HERE.
11:18:11 I'M HERE ON MY OWN.
11:18:17 BUT I AM ASKING YOU, WE HAVE NO TIME TO TALLY ON AND
11:18:21 DRAW -- DRAW OUT A LONG PROCESS IN REFERENCE TO WHAT WE
11:18:23 NEED TO DO AND MOVE FORWARD.
11:18:25 LET US MOVE FORWARD IN THE RIGHT WAY.
11:18:29 LET US ALL COME TO THE TABLE, THOSE WHO HAVE PROBLEMS.
11:18:33 YES, WE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITIES,
11:18:35 BUT WE NEED TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS.
11:18:38 NOT JUST KEEP DRAWING OUT WITH THEM.
11:18:41 AND I SAY RIGHT NOW, THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME.
11:18:44 MARY O'CONNOR, I APPRECIATE YOU.
11:18:46 I APPRECIATE DELGADO.
11:18:47 I APPRECIATE CITY COUNCIL.
11:18:50 AND I ALSO PREACH GOD FOR GIVING ME THE LEADERSHIP TO
11:18:52 COME HERE.
11:18:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS PEEPLES.
11:18:58 NUMBER 35.
11:19:01 NUMBER 35?
11:19:08 ALL RIGHT.
11:19:09 ALL RIGHT.
11:19:12 AGAIN, WE HAVE SOME XS HERE.
11:19:14 SO WE WILL GO TO NUMBER 41.
11:19:25 41.
11:19:26 >> YOU MUST HAVE SCARED EVERYBODY OFF.
11:19:30 LORD, THAT IS A BIG SKIP.
11:19:32 GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.
11:19:35 NICE TO BE BACK IN -- IN THE HOUSE.
11:19:38 I STAND HERE WITH A HEAVY HEART THIS MORNING.
11:19:41 BECAUSE OF COUNCIL DINGFELDER'S RESIGNATION.
11:19:44 WE LOST THE BODY THAT WE ELECTED.
11:19:48 THE BULLYING OF OUR LOCAL OFFICIALS IS SICKENING.
11:19:52 ON OCTOBER 7, 2021, THE CITY ATTORNEY GINA GRIMES
11:19:55 STATED, IF ANY CITY OFFICIAL FILES PROVIDE PUBLIC
11:19:59 RECORDS, THE CITY CANNOT EXPECT -- EXPEND TAXPAYER
11:20:02 DOLLARS TO DEFEND THAT POSITION.
11:20:08 IT IS ALLEGED THAT I TRADED THESE E-MAILS.
11:20:10 I'M HERE TO TELL YOU NO ONE EVER ASKED ME.
11:20:17 AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN FROM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:20:21 IT IS AMAZING BECAUSE FOUR DAYS LATER, THERE WAS A
11:20:24 LAWSUIT FILED AGAINST ONE OF OUR CITY COUNCILMEN.
11:20:27 WE OPENED UP THE FLOODGATES.
11:20:30 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER CANNOT SERVE US AGAIN FOR ANOTHER
11:20:31 FIVE YEARS.
11:20:35 YET IN TUESDAY'S TAMPA BAY BUSINESS JOURNAL, THERE WAS
11:20:38 AN ARTICLE OF A ETHICS VIOLATION.
11:20:43 ARTICLE C-1-B OF THE ETHIC RULES STATE THAT VIOLATIONS
11:20:46 ARE NOT TO BE MADE PUBLIC UNTIL AFTER THE CASE IS
11:20:48 CLOSED.
11:20:52 I ASK YOU, GENTLEMEN, WHO RELEASED THOSE DOCUMENTS TO
11:20:53 THE PUBLIC?
11:20:59 BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE RULES SAY.
11:21:05 THIS -- THIS ALLEGED ETHICS VIOLATION IS NOT SOMETHING
11:21:06 NEW, OKAY.
11:21:08 THIS NONSENSE.
11:21:11 I WOULD SAY THAT IT IS A WITCH HUNT.
11:21:15 WHY ARE WE WASTING OUR TAX DOLLARS CHASING AFTER
11:21:17 SOMEBODY WHO IS ALREADY GONE.
11:21:20 AS A MEMBER OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, I FIND IT
11:21:22 OFFENSIVE.
11:21:27 AS A MEMBER OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE -- I WANT TO REMIND
11:21:30 EVERYONE THAT LAST FALL THE BUDGET COMMITTEE
11:21:34 RECOMMENDED THAT CITY COUNCIL BE GIVEN MORE FUNDS FOR
11:21:35 STAFF.
11:21:39 AND THESE GENTLEMEN AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
11:21:42 SELFLESSLY TURNED DOWN THOSE FUNDS.
11:21:45 THEY SAID, NO, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO SPEND ANY MORE
11:21:47 MONEY ON US.
11:21:53 AND HERE THEY ARE WITHOUT LEGAL REPRESENTATION.
11:21:57 I ALSO OFFER THAT DIRECTORS AND OFFICERS' INSURANCE BE
11:22:01 GIVEN TO EVERY SINGLE CITY OFFICIAL WITHOUT COST TO
11:22:03 THEM.
11:22:07 THESE GENTLEMEN UP HERE MAKE $53,000 A YEAR TO DO WHAT
11:22:09 THEY DO.
11:22:14 IT'S EMBARRASSING THAT THEY HAVE TO RESIGN OR LOSE
11:22:19 EVERY DOLLAR THAT THEY HAVE DUE TO FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS.
11:22:21 GENTLEMEN, BE CAREFUL OUT THERE.
11:22:25 THE, I RAN THATS ARE WAITING ON THEIR NEXT VICTIM.
11:22:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS POYNOR.
11:22:30 ALL RIGHT.
11:22:38 NUMBER 42.
11:22:39 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:22:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING.
11:22:46 >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT AND A LIFELONG
11:22:47 RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:22:51 A LOT OF CITIZENS DISAGREE AND WANT A LOT OF THINGS
11:22:55 FROM THE GOVERNMENT, ONE THING THEY HAVE ZERO TOLERANCE
11:23:00 IS POLITICAL GAMES AND STRUGGLES ON THE TAXPAYERS'
11:23:02 DIME.
11:23:06 IF THE CITY IS FIGHTING EACH OTHER THEY ARE NOT DOING
11:23:08 THEIR JOB AND WASTING OUR MONEY.
11:23:11 SOMEONE WITH DEEP POCKETS THREATENS OUR ELECTED
11:23:13 OFFICIALS FOR DOUG THEIR JOB, FOR LISTENING TO THE
11:23:16 CITIZENS, FOR REPRESENTING US.
11:23:21 IF PRO-CITIZEN, PRO-NEIGHBORHOOD, PRO-SAFETY COUNCILMEN
11:23:25 ARE ATTACKED FOR DOING THEIR JOB, THE CITIZENS WANT THE
11:23:26 CITY TO DEFEND THAT PERSON.
11:23:29 NOT HANG THEM OUT TO DRY.
11:23:33 BECAUSE IN REALITY, THE CITY IS DEFENDING US AND OUR
11:23:37 RIGHT TO HAVE A VOICE AND OUR RIGHT TO A VOTE AND OUR
11:23:40 RIGHT TO A SEAT AT THE TABLE.
11:23:43 I CAN TELL YOU WHAT CITIZENS HATE.
11:23:46 REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL PARTY OR PERSONAL BELIEFS OR
11:23:49 PRIORITIES, WE DON'T WANT OUR PRECIOUS TAX DOLLARS
11:23:52 SPENT TO PERSECUTE AND PROSECUTE SOME PETTY VIOLATION
11:23:57 OF SOME OBSCURE TECHNICALITY THAT NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT OR
11:24:00 CARES ABOUT BECAUSE WE HAVE REAL PROBLEMS.
11:24:01 WE HAVE BIG PROBLEMS.
11:24:04 WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS PUTTING PEOPLE ON THE STREETS.
11:24:09 WE HAVE A CLIMATE CRISIS THAT THREATENS OUR LIE LIVES.
11:24:10 WE HAVE SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:24:13 WE NEED STREETS PAVED AND SIDEWALKS BILL WILL AND OUR
11:24:16 TREES PROTECTED AND LOTS OF GOOD PARKS.
11:24:20 WHAT WE DO NOT NEED IS OUR TAX DOLLARS SPENT READING
11:24:23 THOUSANDS OF E-MAILS ABOUT SOME MEANINGLESS VIOLATION
11:24:26 THAT ULTIMATELY DID NOT RESULT IN A FINANCIAL BENEFIT
11:24:28 TO ANYONE.
11:24:30 THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT DEFENDING THE PEOPLE'S
11:24:35 RIGHT TO BE REPRESENTED BY THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO
11:24:37 WERE UNDER ATTACK FOR DOING THEIR JOB.
11:24:38 WE HAVE BIG PROBLEMS.
11:24:40 REAL PROBLEM.
11:24:43 WHEN CITIZENS HEAR THAT CITY RESOURCES ARE BEING SPENT
11:24:49 PURSUING TOMORROW PENNY ANTE BS, WE ARE DISGUSTED.
11:24:52 WE AS CITIZENS WANT EVERYONE TO KNOCK IT OFF.
11:24:55 LEAVE YOUR EGOS AND PERSONAL SQUABBLES TO THE DOOR AND
11:24:59 STOP THE SELF-INDULGENT GAMES BEING PLAYED ON THE
11:25:00 PEOPLE'S DIME.
11:25:05 WE WANT OUR COUNCILMEMBERS TO VOTE WAY THEIR
11:25:09 CONSTITUENTS WANT THEM TO VOTE WITHOUT THE FEAR OF
11:25:12 FINANCIAL RUIN.
11:25:15 THANK YOU.
11:25:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 43.
11:25:23 >> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
11:25:27 MY NAME IS DR. STEVEN SCHWARTZ, I AM A LONG-TERM
11:25:28 RESIDENT OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
11:25:32 I AM ALSO CURRENTLY VICE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF THE
11:25:36 ASSOCIATION OF TOWERS OF CHANNELSIDE.
11:25:39 I WILL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NOISE
11:25:41 ORDINANCE COMING UP LATER.
11:25:45 FIRST, I WILL QUICKLY READ A LETTER THAT I PROMISED TO
11:25:47 READ SOMEONE WHO COULD NOT BE HERE.
11:25:48 HIS NAME IS MICHAEL LEADS.
11:25:51 MY NAME IS MICHAEL LEADS, AND I AM RESIDENT OF THE
11:25:54 TOWERS OF CHANNELSIDE AND A FORMER CHANNELSIDE CAC
11:25:55 BOARD MEMBERS.
11:25:58 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING MY NEIGHBOR STEVEN BOARD MEMBER
11:26:01 STEVEN SCHWARTZ TO READ MY TESTIMONY AS I NEEDED TO BE
11:26:04 OUT OF TOWN FOR A MEETING AND UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS
11:26:06 HEARING.
11:26:09 I AM WRITING THIS LETTER TO SHOW MY SUPPORT FOR PASSAGE
11:26:12 OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ORDINANCE 22-18 --
11:26:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIR, I AM SORRY -- DOCTOR -- THAT
11:26:20 ITEM NUMBER 61, THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT IS SET?
11:26:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:26:25 YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY SHORTLY.
11:26:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
11:26:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS JUST TOLD BY FROM MY
11:26:36 ADMINISTRATIVE AIDE.
11:26:42 MISS MCCASKILL WENT TO THE REST ROOM.
11:26:43 SHE CAME BACK IN.
11:26:44 IS SHE READY?
11:26:47 >> GOOD AFTERNOON -- OR IS IT MORNING.
11:26:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STILL MORNING.
11:26:50 >> A LONG DAY.
11:26:54 I AM KELLA MCCASKILL, CONCERNED CITIZEN IN TAMPA.
11:26:57 YOU KNOW THIS MEETING STARTED OFF -- VERY IRONIC, IT
11:26:59 STARTED OFF REGARDING PROCESS.
11:27:01 PROCESS.
11:27:07 SOMETHING WE HEAR THAT YOU HAVE TO LIVE BY EACH AND
11:27:07 EVERY DAY.
11:27:09 YOU CAN'T USURP YOUR AUTHORITY.
11:27:13 YOU CAN'T MISUSE IT, YOU CAN'T GET EXCEPTIONS.
11:27:15 THE ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE THAT.
11:27:16 THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY.
11:27:20 NOT A PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN ADHERED TOO.
11:27:22 IT IS UNFORTUNATELY THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS NOT
11:27:24 HERE TODAY BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE PROCESS VIOLATED EVEN
11:27:28 THEM AND HIS RIGHTS AS HE DEFEND THIS COMMUNITY, A VERY
11:27:30 HARD-WORKING CITY COUNCILMAN.
11:27:32 HAD TO GO THROUGH THE PROPERTY BECAUSE HE WAS A PART OF
11:27:35 WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO A VIOLATE PROCESS.
11:27:38 THIS ISN'T ABOUT TODAY DISLIKE OR LIKE FOR THIS
11:27:40 NOMINATED CHIEF.
11:27:41 IT IS NONE OF THAT.
11:27:45 IT IS ABOUT THE DISRESPECT AND THE FAILURE TO FOLLOW
11:27:46 PROCESS.
11:27:48 ABOUT THE LACK OF TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY.
11:27:50 A LACK OF TRUST FOR THE STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATION
11:27:51 FROM THE COMMUNITY.
11:27:56 SO NOT USING YOUR AUTHORITY TO SAY NO TODAY WILL HURT
11:27:57 US EVEN FURTHER.
11:28:00 IT WILL BE MORE -- NO SEPARATION OF POWER.
11:28:03 IT CAN LEAD TO MORE RESIGNATION.
11:28:07 COULD LEAD TO MORE HANNA STREET OOPS.
11:28:09 IT COULD LEAD TO FORCING PURE.
11:28:14 IT COULD LEAD TO IGNORING THE GREATEST CRISIS WE HAVE
11:28:18 IN THIS CITY, FAILURE TO SAY NO USING YOUR AUTHORITY
11:28:19 FOR PROCESS.
11:28:22 AND THEN I AM CONCERNED BECAUSE I NEVER HEARD -- AND I
11:28:23 HAVE BEEN HERE ALL MY LIFE.
11:28:27 I NEVER HEARD OF A FELON BEING ABLE TO BECOME A POLICE
11:28:28 OFFICER.
11:28:31 I AM NOT SURE IF THAT WAS RECENTLY ADOPTED TODAY OR FOR
11:28:35 THE PURPOSES OF THIS RECENT REQUEST TO NOMINATE A
11:28:36 FELON.
11:28:37 I HAVE TO CALL IT WHAT IT IS.
11:28:38 IT IS A FELON.
11:28:41 I DON'T KNOW ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS A CITIZEN IN THIS
11:28:46 CITY THAT WAS ABLE TO APPLY AND BECOME AN OFFICER, LET
11:28:48 ALONE BE ELEVATED TO ITS HIGHEST OFFICE.
11:28:49 IT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
11:28:52 NOT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
11:28:55 WE CAN NOT ACCEPT THAT BEHAVIOR FROM THE
11:28:56 ADMINISTRATION.
11:28:57 WE CAN'T DO IT.
11:29:00 YOU CAN'T DO IT AND ALL THAT IS ASKING YOU TO DO IS
11:29:03 HEAR US AND RESPOND AS LEADERS TODAY AND SAY NO.
11:29:07 THANK YOU.
11:29:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, NUMBER 50.
11:29:15 NUMBER 50.
11:29:16 51.
11:29:18 IS 50 HERE?
11:29:19 >> YOU SAID 50?
11:29:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING BY THE LIST AND THEN OTHER
11:29:23 PEOPLE TO SPEAK, I WILL TAKE THOSE PEOPLE AFTER THAT.
11:29:29 51.
11:29:32 >> HI, MY NAME IS VALERIE BULLOCK.
11:29:36 I AM A THIRD GENERATION HOMEOWNER IN EACH TAMPA.
11:29:38 AND I AM NOT AGAINST THE PERSON.
11:29:42 IT IS THE PROCESS THAT I AM AGAINST DEALING WITH THE
11:29:44 MAYOR.
11:29:49 IT HAS BEEN NOT TRANSPARENT AND AT TIMES SHE LACKS
11:29:51 INTEGRITY AND I CAN BACK IT UP WITH FACTS.
11:29:55 WHEN SHE WAS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE FOR THE CITIZEN
11:30:01 ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR DEALING WITH THE POLICE
11:30:02 COMPLAINTS.
11:30:05 SHE SAID IF SOMEONE HAD BEEN ARRESTED, YOU COULD NOT BE
11:30:06 ON THAT BOARD.
11:30:09 SO HERE WE IS AGAIN.
11:30:12 DOES THAT JUST GO FOR THE CITIZENS, CERTAIN CITIZENS OF
11:30:13 TAMPA?
11:30:19 OR DO IT GO FOR ALL CITIZENS OF TAMPA AND I AM ALSO A
11:30:23 WASTEWATER SUPERVISOR FOR THE CITY OF LAKELAND AND
11:30:24 ENVIRONMENTAL TRAINER.
11:30:26 I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR PEOPLE OUT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD
11:30:30 TO BE WASTEWATER OPERATORS TO GET THE CHANCE TO GET A
11:30:34 SIX-FIGURE INCOME EVERYWHERE I GO, THE DOOR IS SHUT IN
11:30:37 MY FACE.
11:30:38 THEY ARE FELON.
11:30:39 THEY THIS.
11:30:40 THEY THAT.
11:30:43 SO TODAY, WE THROW OUT THE RED CARPET FOR SECOND
11:30:44 CHANCES.
11:30:46 IS THAT JUST FOR TODAY?
11:30:47 IS IT JUST FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE?
11:30:50 OR IS IT FOR ALL PEOPLE?
11:30:55 AND LIKE EVERYBODY SAY, WE ALL HAVE MADE MISTAKES.
11:30:55 YES, WE HAVE.
11:30:59 BUT WHY IS IT THAT SOME PEOPLE CAN OVERCOME THEIR
11:30:59 MISTAKES.
11:31:02 BUT THE PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN EAST TAMPA, THEY
11:31:06 GET BEAT DOWN WITH THEIR MISTAKE.
11:31:07 THAT IS IT.
11:31:07 THANK YOU.
11:31:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:31:11 ALL RIGHT, OUT OF NUMBERS NOW.
11:31:14 IF YOU LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK.
11:31:26 COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
11:31:30 WE ARE OUT OF NUMBERS, AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, IF YOU
11:31:33 WANT TO SPEAK, ONE AT A TIME AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO
11:31:35 SPEAK.
11:31:36 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:31:42 MY NAME IS SHAKENYA BURRIEN,
11:31:46 I'M A MOTHER OF TWO BOYS, TWO BOYS AGES 7 AND TWO MONTHS.
11:31:49 I HAVE BEEN A TAMPA RESIDENT FOR 30 YEARS.
11:31:54 MARCH 2020, I WAS EXPOSED TO COVID FORCING ME TO APPLY
11:31:57 FROM UNEMPLOYMENT AND FINANCIAL ASSISTANT FROM
11:31:57 DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
11:32:00 I RECEIVED RENTAL ASSISTANCE WITH DIFFERENT AGENCIES
11:32:03 AND HIT WITH THE BACKLASH FROM MY LEASING COMPANY IN
11:32:06 MID-JANUARY OF 2020 THAT I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RENEW
11:32:10 MY LEASE AS A TENANT BECAUSE I HAD RECEIVED TOO MUCH
11:32:14 RENTAL ASSISTANCE WHICH FORCED ME TO RELOCATE MY FAMILY
11:32:16 IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
11:32:18 SINCE JANUARY, I HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY LOOKING AND
11:32:21 APPLYING FOR DIFFERENT APARTMENTS WITH THE CONSTANT
11:32:24 WORRY IF I WILL BE ABLE TO LOCATE ONE, IF IT IS
11:32:27 AFFORDABLE, WITHIN MY BUDGET.
11:32:30 I WANT TO LIVE IN A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LIVE
11:32:32 COMFORTABLY.
11:32:35 APARTMENTS ARE ASKING FOR $1500 TO $1800 FOR A TWO
11:32:38 BEDROOM OR THREE-BEDROOM APARTMENT BUILDING WITH NO
11:32:40 AMENITIES AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE THREE TIMES THE RENT TO
11:32:41 QUALIFY.
11:32:47 I LOCATED AN APARTMENT WHICH RENT WAS $1595 FOR A
11:32:52 TWO-BEDROOM, ONE BATH WITH 895 SQUARE FEET.
11:32:55 I WOULD -- I WOULD NEED TO HAVE A MONTHLY INCOME OF
11:33:02 $4785 A MONTH JUST TO FALL PHI WITH THE RENT TO PAY OF
11:33:04 $19 AN HOUR.
11:33:09 AND 40 HOURS A WEEK, BRINGING IN A TOTAL OF $2680 A
11:33:11 MONTH AFTER TAXES, I DON'T QUALIFY.
11:33:15 I STILL HAVE THE COST OF CHILD CARE, ELECTRIC, CAR
11:33:18 PAYMENT, WATER, FOOD.
11:33:21 THIS IS A CRISIS AND WE NEED RENT STABILIZATION.
11:33:24 NOT AS THE SOLUTION AS PART OF THE SOLUTION.
11:33:28 EVERY COMMUNITY DESERVES JUSTICE ON EVERY BLOCK.
11:33:29 THIS IS MY STORY.
11:33:31 AND, AGAIN, THIS IS THE CRISIS.
11:33:35 RENT IS GOING UP, BUT WAGES AREN'T.
11:33:36 THANK YOU.
11:33:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:33:47 NEXT SPEAKER.
11:33:49 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:33:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING.
11:33:52 STATE YOUR NAME.
11:33:56 >> MY NAME IS ROBIN LOCKETT AND SWITCHING THE GEARS
11:33:59 HERE A LITTLE BIT AROUND RENT STABILIZATION.
11:34:00 RENTS STABILIZATION IS A MUST.
11:34:03 WE APPRECIATE THE $5 MILLION, BUT THAT IS JUST A DROP
11:34:04 IN THE BUCKET.
11:34:08 A LONG-TERM ISSUE THAT DESERVES LONG-TERM ACTIONS AN
11:34:09 POLICY CHANGES.
11:34:11 THE COMMUNITY -- THE COMMUNITY DESERVES THAT.
11:34:14 WHAT HAPPENS NEXT YEAR?
11:34:16 WHEN THE MONEY RUNS OUT.
11:34:19 THE RENT WILL STILL BE HIGHER AND THE WAGES WILL REMAIN
11:34:20 THE SAME.
11:34:23 THIS HAS BEEN A CRISIS FOR THE POOR WORKING-CLASS
11:34:28 WORKING TWO TO THREE JOBS TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
11:34:31 NOW THAT IT IS AFFECTING OTHERS, IT IS IDENTIFIED AS A
11:34:32 CRISIS.
11:34:35 DEVELOPERS AND DEVELOPMENT SHOULD NOT BE THE FOREFRONT
11:34:37 IN MAKING DECISIONS.
11:34:40 THE PEOPLE SHOULD BE FIRST.
11:34:44 THERE IS A NEED TO PROTECT ALL PEOPLE.
11:34:46 PROFIT DOES NOT VOTE, PEOPLE DO.
11:34:51 SO THAT IS MY STATEMENT AROUND RENT STABILIZATION.
11:34:56 WHAT IS GOING ON HERE TODAY AROUND THE CHIEF.
11:34:58 THE APPOINTMENT OF THE CHIEF.
11:35:02 I THINK THAT TRANSPARENCY IS VERY IMPORTANT.
11:35:03 THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
11:35:08 THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
11:35:11 AND IF I AM A CITIZEN AND I DON'T FOLLOW THAT PROCESS,
11:35:16 I DON'T GET A SECOND CHANCE.
11:35:21 NO ONE IS REFUTING THE FACT THAT THE APPOINTED CHIEF
11:35:25 GOT A SECOND CHANCE, BUT IN THE BLACK COMMUNION, THAT
11:35:25 DOESN'T HAPPEN.
11:35:31 SO TO ASK US TO LOOK AT THINGS FROM THAT STANDPOINT IS
11:35:32 IRRELEVANT.
11:35:35 BECAUSE WE DON'T GET THAT SECOND CHANCE -- CHANCE.
11:35:40 ASK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FINDING OUT RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE
11:35:43 HAD CHARGES THAT THEY CAN'T GET RID OF.
11:35:46 AND THEY CAN NO LONGER GET A JOB.
11:35:46 THEY ARE SUFFERING.
11:35:50 THEY CAN'T EVEN GET AN APARTMENT.
11:35:50 THEY ARE SUFFERING.
11:35:56 SO THINGS ARE HELD TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD.
11:35:58 I AM SORRY THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS NO LONGER
11:36:00 HERE.
11:36:05 BUT -- AND THIS -- AND THIS AREA IS PACKED WITH POLICE
11:36:06 OFFICER.
11:36:10 CITY OF TAMPA MONEY SITTING RIGHT HERE FOR TWO TO THREE
11:36:11 HOURS.
11:36:13 RIGHT?
11:36:19 SO YOU DO WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS WANT TO YOU DO.
11:36:21 WE ELECTED YOU TO DO THAT.
11:36:25 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:36:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
11:36:31 ANYONE FROM PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY?
11:36:34 ANYONE ELSE?
11:36:42 COME ON, MISS SALLY.
11:36:43 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:36:45 THANK YOU.
11:36:46 FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
11:36:52 I AM SALLYISE LEE, THE MISSIONARY SOCIETY.
11:36:55 AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT ALL THE LADIES HAVE
11:36:59 SAID, BUT THAT DOES NOT ADD ANYTHING TO OUR COMMUNITY.
11:37:04 I AM WORKING TO OPEN A COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER, THE
11:37:08 VOLUNTEER MISSIONARY SOCIETY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
11:37:12 AN APPOINTMENT TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER
11:37:14 MISSIONARY SOCIETY.
11:37:16 BECAUSE STUFF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY
11:37:23 LIKE MISS ROBIN SAID NEVER GET ADDRESSED.
11:37:26 AND NEED SECOND CHANCES LIKE MYSELF FROM 25 YEARS AGO.
11:37:28 I AM A PARARESEARCH SPECIALIST.
11:37:30 I WANT TO GO BACK TO LAW SCHOOL.
11:37:32 I ONLY HAVE TWO YEARS LEFT.
11:37:37 LIKE SHE SAID, I CAN'T GET A JOB 25 YEARS.
11:37:38 IT'S AWFUL.
11:37:40 BUT I STILL VOLUNTEER.
11:37:44 AND I STILL LEARN EVERY DAY WHAT MY COMMUNITY NEEDS.
11:37:47 AND I WANT YOU ALL TO MEET WITH ME AND LET ME EXPLAIN
11:37:50 IT TO YOU SO MAYBE YOU ALL WILL SUPPORT A COMMUNITY
11:37:53 CENTER THAT CAN HELP PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR LIVES.
11:37:56 SO I FORGET MY SPEECH THIS MORNING WHEN GOD KEEPS YOU
11:38:01 UP ALL THE TIME, YOU -- EVERYTHING.
11:38:05 HE REQUIRES YOU TO WORK HARD FOR HIM WHENEVER HE CALLS.
11:38:09 HE EXPECTS YOU TO GET UP AND RISE UP AND LISTEN TO WHAT
11:38:10 HE HAS TO SAY.
11:38:11 AND THAT IS WHAT I DO.
11:38:13 IN WAS A LONG JOURNEY.
11:38:15 WHERE YOU CAN'T GET ANY MONEY FOR ANYTHING.
11:38:17 WE ALL NEED SECOND CHANCES.
11:38:20 WE ALL HAVE BEEN WILDING.
11:38:22 REBELLIOUS SOMEWHERE IN OUR LIVES.
11:38:25 I RAISED 12 KIDS SUCCESSFULLY.
11:38:26 THEY ALL TEXT AND GONE.
11:38:28 SO IT'S ME NOW.
11:38:34 AND I WANT TO ACCOMPLISH THIS DREAM OF OPENING A
11:38:36 COMMUNITY CENTER THAT WILL MAKE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE.
11:38:40 EVEN THE GOVERNOR DESANTIS WHEN I WROTE TO HIM AND I --
11:38:48 I WAS TELLING HIM ABOUT THE DISTRAUGHT IT BRINGS TO THE
11:38:50 YOUNG PEOPLE WITH THE FCAT.
11:38:52 YOU DON'T HAVE A CHANCE AS A KID.
11:38:53 YOU GET HELD BACK.
11:38:54 MY GRANDDAUGHTER.
11:38:56 SHE IS SO SMART.
11:39:00 SHE SAID GRANNY, WILL I EVER MAKE TO FOURTH GRADE.
11:39:03 I SAID I HOPE, THE FCAT.
11:39:10 WE NEED TO REMOVE THE INJUSTICE AND BLOCKADE OF MONEY
11:39:14 IN OUR COMMUNITY SO WE CAN STAND TALL AND BE ALL WE CAN
11:39:14 BE.
11:39:17 THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND GOD IS WATCHING US AND HOW
11:39:20 WE ARE DOING THINGS AND HE IS NOT REALLY HAPPY.
11:39:21 I THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
11:39:23 AND I WOULD LIKE A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO ALL OF YOU ALL
11:39:28 ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER MISSIONARY SOCIETY FUND.
11:39:29 IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
11:39:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:39:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
11:39:44 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD MORNING.
11:39:48 I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON -- MY NAME IS JAMES FELTON, JR.
11:39:52 I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON -- I AM A TAMPA RESIDENT AND I
11:39:56 BELIEVE THAT -- EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A DESIRE --
11:39:59 JUSTICE ON EVERY BLOCK IN THE COMMUNITY.
11:40:02 I HAVE SEEN MY RENT GO UP EVERY YEAR.
11:40:04 I STRUGGLE TO PAY RENT.
11:40:08 AND MY LANDLORD OFFERED TO HELP ME.
11:40:10 AND I AM ASKING YOU ALL TO HELP.
11:40:13 SHE SAID SHE WAS GIVING ME -- IF I GAVE HER THE KEYS,
11:40:17 SHE WOULD HELP ME TO FIND ANOTHER APARTMENT, WHICH SHE
11:40:18 DIDN'T.
11:40:21 SHE COLLECTED MY THINGS AND SAID I HAVE ONE HOUR TO
11:40:22 MOVE OUT.
11:40:24 ONE HOUR.
11:40:27 I GAVE HER BOTH KEYS AND SHE SAID WHEN I GAVE HER BOTH
11:40:31 KEYS, SHE SAID NOW WHERE ARE YOUR FRIENDS NOW?
11:40:34 WHERE ARE THE TRUCK TO COME GET YOU NOW IN ONE HOUR.
11:40:36 I WAS WALKING DOWN THE STREET THAT SAME DAY AND WHERE
11:40:37 TO GO.
11:40:40 I WAS DISABLED.
11:40:41 I HAD NOWHERE TO GO.
11:40:45 SO I HAD $8 IN ORDER TO GET SOMEWHERE TO THE HOTEL
11:40:49 WHICH ONE OF THE RESIDENTS AT WAFFLE HOUSE ASKED ME --
11:40:53 SAID IF YOU GIVE ME THE $8, I HAVE AN UBER TO TAKE YOU
11:40:55 WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.
11:40:58 I AM THINKING ABOUT HOW THAT NEVER HAPPENED TO ME IN
11:40:59 HIGH LIFE.
11:41:04 SO I WANT TO KNOW IF -- IF YOU CAN DO ANYTHING -- I
11:41:06 KNOW WE ALL HAVE A SECOND CHANCE TO HELP THE ONES THAT
11:41:09 REALLY ARE STRUGGLING BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND
11:41:13 OF EDUCATION THEY MAY HAVE OR WHAT GOD MAY HAVE IN
11:41:14 STORE FOR YOU.
11:41:18 I HAD TO DEPEND ON MY FAMILY WHICH I HAVE ONE FAMILY
11:41:19 NOW.
11:41:22 NONE OF MY FAMILY HERE, BUT SEPARATION SINCE THE
11:41:25 SEMINAR KILLER -- MY BROTHER HAD GOT KILLED.
11:41:31 AND BECAUSE I ONLY HAD -- IT -- I STAY WITH A RELATIVE
11:41:34 AND SOMETIMES I WALK THE STREET AT NIGHT BECAUSE HE HAS
11:41:37 HIS -- IT IS JUST NOT LIKE HAVING YOUR OWN THINGS BY
11:41:44 YOURSELF, YOU KNOW, TO HELP BY LIVING I USED TO BE
11:41:49 MARRIED AND LOST MY WIFE NINE YEARS AGO.
11:41:53 I ASK TO PLEASE HELP -- NOT JUST ME BUT EVERYBODY.
11:41:56 WE ARE WORKING FORWARD TOOR FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.
11:42:00 THANK GOD FOR THE MAYOR FOR 4 MILLION.
11:42:02 I WOULD HAVE TAKEN 1 MILLION, I WOULD HAVE TAKEN A
11:42:03 LUNCH.
11:42:05 I'M HERE TO SAY PLEASE HELP US.
11:42:10 MAY NOT SEEM LIKE MUCH, BUT A LOT MORE THAT I AM NOT
11:42:10 SAYING.
11:42:14 THANK YOU, SIR.
11:42:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE IN ANYONE ON THE SECOND
11:42:17 FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:42:19 >> NO ONE ON SECOND FLOOR.
11:42:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:42:24 CHIEF BENNETT, WILL YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR YOUR
11:42:25 PRESENTATION?
11:42:27 IT IS GOING ON MAYBE 20 MINUTES.
11:42:29 ARE WE GOOD?
11:42:32 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN, JOHN BENNETT,
11:42:32 CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:42:35 I THINK WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE PRESENTATION IN LESS
11:42:35 THAN 30 MINUTES.
11:42:39 IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
11:42:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL PROCEED, SIR.
11:42:44 >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL, TAMPA
11:42:45 COMMUNITY.
11:42:48 TODAY WE PRESENT MARY O'CONNOR BY WAY OF A RESOLUTION
11:42:53 FOR CONFIRMATION BY CITY COUNCIL AS PRESCRIBED.
11:42:55 WE HAVE AN IMPORTANT OBLIGATION TODAY TO SUSTAIN THE
11:42:59 STATE'S AGENCY TWO DECADES LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT
11:43:01 LOWERED CRIME BY 80%.
11:43:03 REDUCING ARRESTS BY 74%.
11:43:06 WHICH OUTPERFORMS ALL MAJOR JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE.
11:43:10 WE SEE BY LOWERING CRIME, WE LOWER ARRESTS.
11:43:13 BY LOWERS ARRESTS WE CREATE OPPORTUNITY AND LEADS TO
11:43:16 JOBS AND THOSE JOBS LEAD TO AN INCREASED QUALITY OF
11:43:18 LIFE.
11:43:22 MAYOR CASTOR'S COMMITMENT TO A NATIONAL SEARCH AND DUE
11:43:24 DILIGENCE LEADING INTO MARY'S APPOINTMENT IS FOLLOWED
11:43:27 BY THE PRESCRIBED PROCESS OF PRESENTING MARY TO COUNCIL
11:43:28 FOR CONFIRMATION.
11:43:31 MARY WAS VETTED BY OVER 100 YEARS OF COMBINED LAW
11:43:36 ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE AND INTRODUCED AND REINTRODUCED
11:43:38 TO HUNDREDS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS LEADING TO TODAY.
11:43:42 AS THE CHAIRMAN HAS STATED AND I CAN CONTEST A
11:43:45 DEPARTMENT THAT OPERATES IN THIS LEVEL OF A
11:43:48 PARAMILITARY ORGANIZATION NEEDS DYNAMIC AND SUCCESSIVE
11:43:52 LEADERSHIP TO NOT ONLY BE THE CHIEF BUT SUSTAIN TO
11:43:54 PREPARE THE NEXT CHIEF TO TAKE OVER ONE DAY.
11:43:57 I WILL LEAVE IT TO YOU AND TURN IT OVER TO MARY
11:43:59 O'CONNOR FOR COMMENTS AND AGAIN SOMETHING THAT WOULD
11:44:02 RESONATE TO THE CHAIRMAN AGAIN WHO SERVED IN THIS
11:44:03 PUBLIC SAFETY CAPACITY.
11:44:06 WHILE MANY OF US WENT THROUGH THE INITIAL ACADEMY, MINE
11:44:08 WAS ALMOST 40 YEARS AGO.
11:44:11 AND TRAINING TO BECOME OFFICERS, WE WERE TOLD NOT TO
11:44:16 GET EMOTIONALLY INVOLVED IN OUR JOB.
11:44:19 SOME OF US OVER THE LAST TWO DECADES REALIZED IT IS
11:44:21 JUST THE OPPOSITE OF THAT.
11:44:23 WE HAVE TO LEARN TO CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND THE
11:44:27 POLICE OFFICERS TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
11:44:29 MARY O'CONNOR EMBRACES THE CARING OF THE OFFICERS AND
11:44:32 THE COMMUNITY AS THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON TO LEAD THE
11:44:36 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT THROUGH ITS CHAPTER OF POLICE
11:44:38 COMMUNITY, SUCCESS AND TRUST BUILDING.
11:44:38 I THANK YOU.
11:44:43 AND NOW I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MARY.
11:44:47 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:44:52 TODAY IT IS A GREAT HONOR FOR ME TO COME BEFORE YOU.
11:44:54 I HAVE BEEN NOMINATED TO BECOME THE NEXT TAMPA POLICE
11:44:55 CHIEF.
11:44:58 AND I WOULD BE HUMBLED IF GIVEN THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR
11:45:03 YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR CONFIRMATION.
11:45:08 FOR ME, LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS A CALLING, NOT A JOB OR A
11:45:09 PROFESSION.
11:45:14 AND 28 YEARS AGO, I WAS CALLED TO THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
11:45:16 SERVE THE CITIZENS.
11:45:20 I AM NOT YET DONE SERVING.
11:45:26 I DEEPLY CARE ABOUT THIS CITY, THE PEOPLE THAT CALL IT
11:45:26 HOME.
11:45:29 IN THE PAST FIVE WEEKS HAVE HELPED ME STRENGTHEN
11:45:33 EXISTING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE VERY MEMBERS OF THIS
11:45:36 CITY THAT CALL IT HOME.
11:45:39 I HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE TO BUILD NEW RELATIONSHIPS ALSO
11:45:42 ALONG THE WAY.
11:45:45 AS REPRESENTATIVES OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, IT IS
11:45:49 CRITICAL FOR THE POLICE CHIEF TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH
11:45:50 CITY COUNCIL.
11:45:53 SO THAT TOGETHER WE CAN ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS A
11:46:00 VOICE IN THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HOW IT OPERATES.
11:46:03 TODAY, WE HEARD FROM MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
11:46:05 AND THEY HAD SEVERAL CONCERNS.
11:46:09 WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW THIS COMMUNITY TO HAVE A
11:46:13 VOICE AT THE TABLE SO WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP
11:46:17 WITH REAL SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS.
11:46:20 I AM COMMITTED TO WORKING CLOSELY WITH YOU TO ACHIEVE
11:46:23 OUR GOALS.
11:46:27 AS THE NEXT CHIEF, I WANT TO REMAIN HYPER FOCUSED ON
11:46:29 MY FOUR PRIORITIES.
11:46:32 NUMBER ONE, I WANT TO WORK SIDE BY SIDE WITH ALL
11:46:35 COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
11:46:40 NUMBER TWO, I WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE TAMPA POLICE
11:46:43 DEPARTMENT OFFICERS HAVE A VERY ROBUST SAFETY AND
11:46:46 WELLNESS PROGRAM AVAILABLE TO THEM.
11:46:50 NUMBER THREE, I WANT TO REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME, BUT I
11:46:53 ALSO WANT TO REDUCE ALL CRIME.
11:46:56 AND NUMBER FOUR, I BELIEVE IN HAVING A STRONG QUALITY
11:47:00 ASSURANCES PLATFORM IN PLACE TO ENSURE EVERYONE IN THIS
11:47:04 CITY IS TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT THAT THEY
11:47:07 DESERVE.
11:47:09 AS I HAVE LEARNED FROM MY WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
11:47:13 JUSTICE AND THE FBI, IT IS CRITICAL THAT THE POLICE
11:47:17 DEPARTMENT NOT ONLY SOLVE CRIME BUT IDENTIFY THE ROOT
11:47:22 CAUSES OF CRIME AND WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS INCLUDING
11:47:27 SOCIAL SERVICES TO ADDRESS THOSE ROOT CAUSES.
11:47:31 NOT ONLY DOES ADDRESSING THE ROOT CAUSES PREVENT CRIME,
11:47:34 IT EASES THE BURDEN ON OUR OFFICERS AND PROVIDES
11:47:38 FAMILIES WITH SERVICES AND HELP THAT THEY SO TRULY
11:47:41 NEED.
11:47:44 I AM SURROUNDED BY A TERRIFIC TEAM TO LEAD THE TAMPA
11:47:50 POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH ASSISTANT CHIEFS BERCAW AND
11:47:52 BUTCH DELGADO.
11:47:57 I VERY TRULY VALUE BUTCH AND ALL HE HAS DONE TO KEEP
11:48:01 THIS AGENCY MOVING FORWARD AS THE INTERIM CHIEF.
11:48:04 HE WILL CONTINUE TO PLAY A CRITICAL ROLE IN THE POLICE
11:48:08 DEPARTMENT'S LEADERSHIP AS WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO
11:48:11 ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS.
11:48:14 I HAVE 22 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE MOVING UP THROUGH THE
11:48:16 RANK AT THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
11:48:20 I RETIRED AS THE ASSISTANT CHIEF OF POLICE FIVE YEARS
11:48:21 AGO.
11:48:24 AND IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, I HAVE LEARNED AND SHARED
11:48:27 BEST PRACTICES IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSION AROUND
11:48:30 THE UNITED STATES.
11:48:34 I AM VERY EXCITED FOR THE BRIGHT FUTURE OF THE TAMPA
11:48:37 POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SERVING IN COMMUNITY THAT I LOVE.
11:48:40 AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE BEFORE YOU
11:48:41 TODAY.
11:48:42 THANK YOU.
11:48:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
11:48:45 WE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS.
11:48:46 WE WILL GO THIS WAY.
11:48:48 WE WILL GO WITH MR. MIRANDA.
11:48:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:48:52 I WANT TO SAY THAT THE PROCESS THAT I HAVE SEEN HERE
11:48:55 TODAY IS VERY DEMOCRATIC.
11:48:58 PEOPLE FROM ALL SIDES OF THE COMMUNITY.
11:49:00 AND SPEAK AND HOW THEY FELT PERSONALLY.
11:49:03 AND THAT MEANS A LOT TO ALL OF US ON THIS SIDE OF THE
11:49:04 DAIS.
11:49:08 SO ALL THOSE WHO CAME UP TODAY, THE 50 SOME, I
11:49:14 APPRECIATE YOU SAYING HOW YOU FELT WHETHER FOR OR
11:49:14 AGAINST.
11:49:16 AND THAT IS WHAT THE PROCESS IS ALL ABOUT.
11:49:18 THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL CONTEST.
11:49:21 AND EVEN IN POLITICAL CONTESTS, THERE ARE REALLY NO
11:49:22 LOSERS.
11:49:25 SOME GET ELECTED AND SOME GET NOT ENOUGH VOTES.
11:49:29 IF YOU LOOK AT THE DAIS AND SOME OF US GOT ELECTED THE
11:49:30 FIRST GO.
11:49:33 SOME OF US DIDN'T GET ELECTED THE FIRST GO.
11:49:36 SOME OF US DIDN'T GET ELECTED SECOND GO.
11:49:39 AND SOME OF US BARELY MADE IT ON THE THIRDS GO.
11:49:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AIN'T THAT THE TRUTH.
11:49:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I AM SAYING THAT THE PROCESS
11:49:47 WE ARE GOING THROUGH IS ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE
11:49:47 INDIFFERENCE.
11:49:50 DON'T GET ME WRONG WHEN I SAY THE SAME THING AS US.
11:49:54 WHEN OUR DEDICATED POLICE OFFICER -- AND WE HAVE MANY.
11:49:57 I THINK THAT IS WHY THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS GONE DOWN
11:50:02 IMMENSELY IN CRIME YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
11:50:04 ONE OF THE LEADERS IN THE COUNTRY.
11:50:06 WITH RESPECT TO HAVE CITIZENS.
11:50:09 WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR POSITION IN LIFE.
11:50:11 WHY ARE PEOPLE MOVING HERE?
11:50:14 SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL, IT IS ABOUT YOUR SPORTS.
11:50:17 MAYBE THERE ARE SOME THAT MOVE HERE BECAUSE OF SPORTS.
11:50:21 BUT I WILL SAY THAT IS VERY MINIMAL.
11:50:23 WHEN YOU LOOK AT A CITY THAT HAS OPPORTUNITIES FOR
11:50:23 GROWTH.
11:50:27 OPPORTUNITIES FOR JOBS.
11:50:29 WE NEVER HAD TECH COMPANIES HERE.
11:50:31 WE NEVER HAD MUCH OF ANYTHING.
11:50:34 WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AND YOU START REALIZING WHERE WERE
11:50:37 YOU WHEN YOU STARTED THIS PROCESS AND BACK TO THE 70S
11:50:38 WITH MAYOR POPE.
11:50:41 I WORKED WITH FIVE DIFFERENT MAYORS.
11:50:42 WE HAVE SAID IT BEFORE.
11:50:44 THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS.
11:50:46 THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING THINGS.
11:50:48 THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES.
11:50:52 AND THEY HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON, AND THAT COMMON BOND
11:50:55 IS WHEN THEY LEAVE THE CITY, THEY WANT TO LEAVE THE
11:50:57 CITY BETTER THAN WHEN THEY GOT IT.
11:50:59 THAT COMPETITION TO ALWAYS STEP FORWARD AND MAKING IS
11:51:01 BETTER IS NOT EASY.
11:51:06 THOSE MAYORS HAVE ALWAYS WORKED WHETHER WE REALIZE IT
11:51:10 OR NOT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF SATURDAY.
11:51:15 DOWNTOWN FEW YEARS AGO WAS NOTHING.
11:51:19 THEY HAD MAYBE 605 PEOPLE LIVING HERE.
11:51:21 600 OF THEM WERE IN JAIL.
11:51:24 OPT OTHER FIVE WERE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO GET IN JAIL.
11:51:27 WHEN YOU LOOK AT YBOR CITY, YBOR CITY WAS NOT MUCH
11:51:28 EITHER.
11:51:33 YBOR CITY HAD THREE THINGS.
11:51:35 NOT NECESSARILY IN THIS ORDER WAY BACK.
11:51:36 NOT NOW.
11:51:39 DRUGS, PROSTITUTION AND TUMBLEWEEDS.
11:51:42 IT WASN'T UNTIL MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WERE INVESTED IN
11:51:43 THERE TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.
11:51:47 THERE HAVEN'T BEEN A NEW BUILDING BUILT IN YBOR CITY IN
11:51:49 YEARS.
11:51:52 NOW THERE IS A NEW BUILDING IN MOST PLACES GOING UP AT
11:51:53 ALL TIMES.
11:51:57 WHEN YOU LOOK AT DOWNTOWN, HOW MANY TALL BUILDINGS
11:52:00 HAVE COME UP?
11:52:04 LATELY NONE OR BIG, BIG BUILDINGS FOR COMMERCIAL.
11:52:07 BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, SQUARE
11:52:09 FOOTAGE BUILDING DOWNTOWN IN THE LAST 25 YEARS, WHICH
11:52:10 DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE.
11:52:14 THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME TO VISIT,
11:52:15 THEY STAY.
11:52:16 THEY LIKE IT.
11:52:18 YOU SEE, WE GOT RID OF ONE SQUAD.
11:52:23 AND THAT WAS A SQUAD THAT PUT DOWN THE SIDEWALKS AND
11:52:25 TOOK THEM UP AT 5:00 IN THE EVENING BECAUSE NO ONE
11:52:26 WALKING IN THEM.
11:52:29 DOWNTOWN WAS DEAD.
11:52:31 LOOK AT IT NOW.
11:52:33 USED TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE THIS LOT OR ANY OTHER LOT
11:52:36 WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING BECAUSE NO CARS DRIVING.
11:52:39 NOW YOU GOT TO BE ALL TOO CAREFUL.
11:52:48 AND THE CITY HAS GROWN AND HAS BECOME A BETTER PLACE TO
11:52:49 LIVE.
11:52:50 WHY DO PEOPLE RELOCATE.
11:52:54 I HAVE TO TELL YOU NOT FOR SPORTS 37 NOT EVEN FOR TOP
11:52:55 FIVE.
11:52:57 OPPORTUNITY, EDUCATION AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
11:53:00 AND LET ME GET THE HELL OUT OF THE SNOW.
11:53:03 SO WHEN YOU SEE, WE ONLY HAVE TWO SEASONS IN TAMPA.
11:53:05 THAT IS SUMMER AND CHRISTMAS.
11:53:09 AND IF PEOPLE WANT THAT WHEN YOU ARE MY AGE AND OLDER,
11:53:12 PEOPLE FROM NEW YORK, PEOPLE FROM THE NEW ENGLAND
11:53:14 STATES, MICHIGAN, OHIO.
11:53:18 THEY LOVE TO BE HERE.
11:53:19 I WANT TO SAY ONE THING.
11:53:22 IT IS INCUMBENT ON US TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
11:53:23 AND I THINK WE HAVE.
11:53:25 WE HAVE HEARD A LOT FROM BOTH SIDES.
11:53:28 AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, MR.
11:53:28 CHAIRMAN.
11:53:29 THANK YOU.
11:53:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OF COURSE YOU ARE THE LEGEND OF THIS
11:53:32 COUNCIL.
11:53:36 YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME AND I HAVE UNDER FIRE.
11:53:40 AND I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
11:53:42 MR. VIERA.
11:53:42 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:53:44 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:53:48 I APPRECIATE THOSE WHO CAME OUT NOT ONLY OUT TODAY BUT
11:53:49 SENT E-MAILS AND CALLS.
11:53:52 I TRY TO BE VERY ENGAGING THE INQUIRIES.
11:53:56 BY THE WAY, Y'ALL, I AM GOING TO SPEAK FROM THE HEART.
11:53:57 I ALWAYS TRY TO SPEAK FROM THE HEART.
11:54:00 WE ARE HERE AS CITY COUNCIL EVERY DAY, BUT ESPECIALLY
11:54:03 TODAY, TO NOT ONLY SPEAK FROM THE HEART AND CALL BALLS
11:54:04 AND STRIKES.
11:54:07 IF I TICK OFF ONE SIDE AND THE OTHER AND BOTH SIDES IN
11:54:11 CALLING BALLS AND STRIKES IT IS INCUMBENT UPON US TO DO
11:54:11 THAT.
11:54:16 I THANK EVERYBODY FOR REACHING OUT BY E-MAIL, BY CALLS,
11:54:17 DIFFERENT WAYS, ETC.
11:54:20 YOU KNOW I PROMISE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING ON THIS I
11:54:21 WOULD BE FAIR.
11:54:22 THAT I WOULD BE REASONABLE.
11:54:47 THAT I WOULD APPLY SCRUTINY, RIGHT -- NO SEE CELT AND
11:54:49 SOME OF THE COMMENTS COME TODAY THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF
11:54:52 CHALLENGES AND WE GOT TO GET ON TRACK.
11:54:54 SOMETHING THAT SOME FOLKS TALKED ABOUT WAS THE WELL
11:54:58 GOING OF FIRST RESPONDERS IN THIS CASE, TAMPA POLICE
11:55:01 DEPARTMENT AND OUR ABILITY TO FIGHT CRIME, TO ENGAGE
11:55:03 THE COMMUNITY, TO SUPPORT VICTIMS OF CRIME AND GET
11:55:04 EVERYTHING ON TRACK.
11:55:06 FOR ME, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT ALWAYS HAS BEEN VERY
11:55:06 IMPORTANT.
11:55:10 A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE TALKED ABOUT CHIEF DELGADO.
11:55:11 A GREAT MAN.
11:55:12 A GREAT MAN.
11:55:16 THE -- THE SENTIMENTS THAT WERE EXPRESSED, RIGHT, WHEN
11:55:18 THE DECISION WAS MADE BY THE ADMINISTRATION SPEAK TO
11:55:20 WHAT A GREAT MAN HE IS.
11:55:25 I HAVE MADE REMARKS IN THAT REGARD BEFORE.
11:55:28 I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT IN DISPUTE HERE
11:55:32 AND I AM GOING TO SAY THAT I THINK THE PROCESS -- A LOT
11:55:33 OF FOLKS TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS.
11:55:35 I WANT TO DEFINE WHAT I MEAN ABOUT THE PROCESS IN A
11:55:39 LITTLE BIT BUT THE PROCESS HAS IN EFFECT UNDERMINED AND
11:55:41 WHICH IS WE ARE DEALING WITH A STRONG WOMAN.
11:55:43 WE ARE DEALING WITH A GOOD WOMAN WHO IS DEDICATED
11:55:49 ALMOST A QUARTER CENTURY TO TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT,
11:55:50 RIGHT.
11:55:52 WHEN I LOOK AT THE RECORD OF MARY O'CONNOR, I AM THE
11:55:57 KIND OF PERSON WHO I SAY THANK YOU TO PEOPLE WHO PUT
11:55:59 THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY.
11:56:02 WEATHER IT IS THE MILITARY, FIRE FIGHTERS OR COPS.
11:56:03 WE OUGHT TO SAY THANK YOU.
11:56:06 WE SHOULD SAY THANK YOU TO MARY O'CONNOR FOR HER
11:56:07 SERVICE 110%.
11:56:08 I DON'T THINK THAT IS IN DISPUTE.
11:56:10 A RECORD SHE SHOULD BE PROUD OF.
11:56:12 I SEE HER FAMILY HERE.
11:56:14 A RECORD THAT HER SON, DAUGHTER AND HUSBAND SHOULD BE
11:56:17 PROUD OF AND I KNOW THAT THEY ARE.
11:56:21 BUT WE WOULD ALSO, AGAIN, CALLING BALL AND STRIKES.
11:56:23 THERE IS THE PROCESS.
11:56:24 PROCESS.
11:56:27 THE RESPONSE WE HAVE SEEN FROM MEMBERS OF THE
11:56:31 COMMUNITY, RIGHT, SOME OF WHOM BEGAN WITH SOME MORE
11:56:34 CAUSTIC RESPONSES THAT KIND OF COME TO THE MIDDLE SPEAK
11:56:39 TO A PROCESS THAT WAS, I BELIEVE, MISHANDLED.
11:56:43 I BELIEVE IT WAS MISHANDLED WHETHER ENGAGING TO TAMPA
11:56:46 CITY COUNCIL ON CERTAIN ISSUES, CHALLENGES IN PARTS OF
11:56:48 WEST TAMPA, ETSD.
11:56:51 I THINK THAT PROCESS WAS MISHANDLED, RIGHT.
11:56:55 MY POSITION IS THAT WE CAN DIVORCE THAT PROCESS WHICH
11:56:58 HAS BEEN MISHANDLED THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH THROUGH
11:57:00 CHANGES, RIGHT.
11:57:03 THERE ARE LEGAL CHANGES THAT CAN HAPPEN, ETC.
11:57:06 THERE ARE LESSON THAT CAN BE LEARNED FROM THIS THAT WE
11:57:07 SHOULD SPEAK OF.
11:57:12 AGAIN, NOT JUST LESSONS LEARNED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS BUT
11:57:14 LESSONS TO BE HEARD IN PUBLIC.
11:57:16 THAT WE DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN
11:57:18 CLEARLY MISHANDLED.
11:57:23 AND BY THE WAY, IF SOMEBODY SAYS THE PROCESS HAS BEEN
11:57:26 MISHANDLED, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.
11:57:28 I THINK IT HAS BEEN, 110%.
11:57:29 I THINK IT HAS BEEN.
11:57:33 BUT HAS NO DIRECT BEARING ON THIS WOMAN'S RECORD AND
11:57:35 HOW WE SHOULD REACT IN THAT REGARD.
11:57:40 YOU KNOW A LOT HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT MRS. O'CONNOR,
11:57:43 CHIEF-NOMINEE O'CONNOR AND HER RECORD.
11:57:46 I THINK WE NEED TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE PROCESS AND
11:57:49 THE VERY, VERY GOOD RECORD OF THIS WOMAN.
11:57:51 I THINK THERE IS A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS WE HAVE TO ASK
11:57:54 OURSELVES, WHICH IS, NUMBER ONE, CAN WE HAVE A VOTE
11:57:57 THAT ACKNOWLEDGES HER REMARKABLE CAREER WITH TPD.
11:57:59 A VOTE THAT RESPECTS HER RECORD.
11:58:03 BUT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CALL THAT RECORD INTO TASK FOR
11:58:07 THE PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN CLEARLY MISHANDLED.
11:58:09 I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO THAT.
11:58:13 ANOTHER BIG ISSUE IS -- AND I HAVE 30 SECONDS, IS
11:58:16 DEESCALATION OF WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF
11:58:18 TAMPA.
11:58:21 DEALING WITH ISSUES IN A RESPONSIBLE, CALM WAY, THE
11:58:24 REASONABLENESS, THROUGH LEADERSHIP, BY BEING CALM, ETC.
11:58:27 WE CAN ALL -- ALL SIX OF US WORKING WITH THE
11:58:31 ADMINISTRATION CAN DEAL WITH THE ISSUES OF THE PROCESS
11:58:31 RESPONSIBLY.
11:58:38 I WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT WHILE NOT UNDERMINING, IN
11:58:41 EFFECT, -- OR EFFECT THIS WOMAN'S RECORD.
11:58:43 THANK YOU, SIR.
11:58:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:58:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:58:51 I HAVE TO DISCUSS ON SO MANY LEVELS WHAT IS GOING ON IN
11:58:53 FRONT OF US TODAY.
11:58:57 I AM NOT GOING TO BE KIND ON SOME OF THEM.
11:59:01 THE STRONGEST PERSON IN THIS ROOM, BUTCH DELGADO.
11:59:04 BUTCH, THANK YOU FOR SERVING THE PEOPLE.
11:59:05 AND THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
11:59:10 AND THE WAY YOU HAVE DONE FOR ALL THESE YEARS.
11:59:14 I AM HOPING ONE DAY I AM SITTING ON THIS DAIS WHEN YOUR
11:59:15 TIME COMES.
11:59:18 THANK YOU, MY FRIEND.
11:59:22 IN ALL THE CALLS THAT I HAVE RECEIVED, AND I AM SURE
11:59:27 THAT WE ALL HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF PHONE CALLS, A
11:59:36 CAUCASIAN WOMAN SAID TO ME, COUNCILMAN CITRO, MY PICK
11:59:41 WOULD HAVE BEEN DELGADO BECAUSE HE SPEAKS SPANISH.
11:59:46 THE POPULATION IN THIS CITY IS RISING FASTER THAN ANY
11:59:49 OTHER POPULATION AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MAJOR ASSET
11:59:56 FOR ANY CHIEF OF POLICE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:00:02 MISS O'CONNOR, YOU AND I HAVE MET ON SEVERAL TIMES.
12:00:06 AND THE SECOND TIME WE MET, I WAS VERY HARSH ON YOU.
12:00:08 AND I TRIED TO GIVE YOU ADVICE.
12:00:13 FIRST THING I SAID IS, MARY, YOU NEED TO STEP BACK.
12:00:17 YOU NEED TO REGROUP.
12:00:20 YOU NEED TO GET RECLASSIFIED.
12:00:24 YOU NEED TO GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.
12:00:30 YOU NEED TO TOUCH BASE WITH RELIGION ORGANIZATIONS.
12:00:33 YOU NEED TO TOUCH BASE WITH ALL THE CHAMBERS.
12:00:37 YOU NEED TO GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY.
12:00:41 BASICALLY WHAT YOU TOLD ME WAS NO, I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
12:00:47 MARY, YOU HAVE DONE THE CHECKLIST.
12:00:52 YOU HAVE GONE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
12:00:53 YOU HAVE GONE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
12:01:00 YOU HAVE GONE TO THE CHAMBERS.
12:01:04 I GAVE YOU NAMES.
12:01:09 YOU ARE REINSTATED, CLASSIFIED.
12:01:22 THAT'S A MESSAGE.
12:01:24 MR. CHAIR, I AM GATHERING MORE THOUGHTS HERE.
12:01:33 YOU HAVE A STELLAR RECORD, MS. O'CONNOR.
12:01:37 I HAVE ALWAYS -- AND I SAID THIS IN THE PAST AND THERE ARE
12:01:41 MANY PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, MANY PEOPLE WATCHING ON TV AND
12:01:44 HEARD ME SAY THIS, I WILL ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS STAND
12:01:47 BEHIND THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS A WHOLE.
12:01:55 BUT THE MOMENT ONE OFFICER STEPS OUT OF LINE.
12:02:04 NOW I AM GOING TO TURN TO CHIEF OF STAFF.
12:02:15 THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED THIS
12:02:19 PROCESS AND STATE ATTORNEY, PUBLIC DEFENDER, SHERIFF'S
12:02:22 OFFICE.
12:02:25 THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT SHE MAY HAVE TO WORK WITH ON A
12:02:30 DAILY -- ON A MOMENT TO MOMENT BASIS.
12:02:37 ANOTHER PERSON, TOO.
12:02:38 THE CHAIRMAN OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
12:02:43 ALL THESE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, IN MY
12:02:45 HUMBLE OPINION.
12:02:50 AND THERE IS ONE MORE THING THAT I HAVE TO SAY, SOMETHING
12:02:57 THAT THE RUDEST COMMENT I EVER HEARD.
12:03:02 HOW COULD SEVEN MEN STAND IN THE WAY OF A WOMAN BEING
12:03:05 CONFIRMED?
12:03:11 ALL THESE MEN UP HERE ON THE DAIS CONFIRMED THREE WOMEN AS
12:03:18 DEPARTMENT HEADS.
12:03:22 CHIEF TRIPP, A WOMAN OF COLOR, IS NOW CHIEF OF FIRE RESCUE.
12:03:26 [ APPLAUSE ]
12:03:33 SHARIS HILL, A WOMAN OF COLOR, PARKS AND RECREATION.
12:03:37 AND I DO BELIEVE I SAW MRS. OCEA WYNN.
12:03:42 ALL WOMEN OF COLOR.
12:03:46 SO THAT STATEMENT OFFENDS ME, AND I HOPE IT OFFENDS THE REST
12:03:55 OF THE MEMBERS ON THIS DAIS.
12:03:59 MS. O'CONNOR, I WISH YOU ALL THE LUCK IN THE WORLD.
12:04:03 I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE DONE THE THINGS THAT I
12:04:06 ASKED YOU TO DO, THAT YOU FIRST REFUSED, WITH THE EXCEPTION
12:04:11 OF STANDING BACK.
12:04:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S YOUR TIME, SIR.
12:04:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.
12:04:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES THUS FAR FOR
12:04:23 THEIR COMMENTS.
12:04:27 MAY 1st, 2009 I WAS OUT WITH FRIENDS IN HYDE PARK, CINCO
12:04:31 DE MAYO.
12:04:33 ALL OF THEM WERE DRINKING.
12:04:34 I WAS NOT DRINKING.
12:04:36 AS I LEFT GOING UP HOWARD AVENUE I RAN A RED LIGHT.
12:04:40 I WAS EITHER GOING TO SLAM ON MY BRAKES OR GET REAR-ENDED.
12:04:43 I TOOK THE LIGHT.
12:04:45 I WAS PULLED OVER BY TPD.
12:04:47 THE OFFICER ASKED ME TO STEP OUT OF THE VEHICLE, ASKED ME IF
12:04:50 I HAD BEEN DRINKING.
12:04:51 ALL I HAD WAS DIET COKE.
12:04:53 THAT'S WHAT I DRANK AT THE TIME.
12:04:55 I NO LONGER DRINK SODA.
12:04:57 AND THEN HE ASKED ME TO WALK A STRAIGHT LINE.
12:05:00 I GUESS IT'S WHAT YOU CALL THE SOMEBODY BRIGHT TEST.
12:05:04 THEN HE ASKED ME DO YOU TAKE ANY MEDICATION?
12:05:07 HAVE YOU HAD MUCH SLEEP?
12:05:08 I SAID I WORK TWO JOBS AND THIS IS THE MY FIRST DAY OFF.
12:05:11 I WAS OUT WITH FRIENDS.
12:05:12 HE SAID GO HOME AND GET SOME SLEEP.
12:05:14 HOWEVER, ONE OF THE OFFICERS DECIDED TO ARREST ME.
12:05:18 NOT A CONVICTION, BUT AN ARREST ON SUSPICION OF WHATEVER,
12:05:22 DUI.
12:05:23 I WAS ALREADY PLANNING TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL IN 2011.
12:05:27 THIS IS THE YEAR BEFORE I FILED.
12:05:28 HAD I BEEN ARRESTED, JUST AN ARREST, WOULD I HAVE -- WHAT I
12:05:33 EVEN FILE TO RUN?
12:05:35 PROBABLY NOT BECAUSE I FIGURED MY FUTURE, WHO IS GOING TO
12:05:38 TAKE ME SERIOUSLY?
12:05:40 AS A MATTER OF FACT ONE OF THE NEWSPAPERS IN 2010, 2011
12:05:42 LOOKED BACK INTO CANDIDATES' PAST FOR CITY COUNCIL TO SEE
12:05:46 WHO GOT ARRESTED AND WHATNOT.
12:05:47 MY NAME WOULD HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN ON THAT LIST.
12:05:49 AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS I WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE
12:05:52 TODAY HAD THE CIRCUMSTANCES BEEN DIFFERENT.
12:05:54 I GOT ELECTED IN 2015 AND I WANTED TO HIRE A LEGISLATIVE
12:05:57 AIDE AND IT WAS BLOCKED ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP BECAUSE THAT
12:06:01 LEGISLATIVE AIDE HAD A DUI ARREST.
12:06:04 AS I UNDERSTAND IT, A DUI IS A MISDEMEANOR, KNOW IT A
12:06:08 FELONY, I THINK.
12:06:08 AND THEY WOULDN'T LET ME HIRE THIS INDIVIDUAL.
12:06:12 I WAS WITHOUT AN AID FOR ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AND I HAD TO
12:06:15 CHOOSE SOMEBODY ELSE.
12:06:16 I HAD A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AIDE NOW.
12:06:20 THERE'S THAT.
12:06:20 SOMEBODY CLOSE TO ME NOT TOO LONG AGO WITH THE SHERIFF'S
12:06:23 OFFICE, AS A DEPUTY, GOT A DUI, AND WAS THIRD, AND APPEALED
12:06:28 IT ALL THE WAY TO THE SHERIFF, A WAS NOT GIVEN THE JOB BACK
12:06:32 AND HAD TO MOVE OUT OF TOWN.
12:06:33 AND IS NO LONGER HERE.
12:06:37 I HAVE BEEN HERE SEARCH YEARS, AND I HAVE STRUGGLED WITH
12:06:40 SOME VOTES.
12:06:41 SOME VOTES ARE EASIER THAN OTHERS.
12:06:43 I THINK THE MOST DIFFICULT VOTE WAS THE STORMWATER VOTE IN
12:06:47 SEPTEMBER 2016 BECAUSE I GOT HELL FOR THAT, BUT IT WHATS THE
12:06:50 RIGHT THING TO DO.
12:06:52 THIS VOTE IS PROBABLY THE SECOND MOST DIFFICULT VOTE I HAVE
12:06:55 HAD TO TAKE, BECAUSE OF THE OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF PEOPLE
12:06:59 THAT ARE CONTACTING MY OFFICE BY E-MAIL, BY PHONE, AS WAS
12:07:05 MENTIONED, I GO TO GET A SALAD, I GET STOPPED, I GET A CUP
12:07:10 OF COFFEE, I GET STOPPED, THE MOST RANDOM INDIVIDUALS
12:07:13 CONTACT ME THAT I HAVE NEVER MET BEFORE TO DISCUSS THIS
12:07:15 ISSUE WITH ME.
12:07:18 SOMETHING HAPPENED HERE IN 1995.
12:07:22 I MENTIONED THINGS IN THE PAST OF OTHER PEOPLE IN A
12:07:25 SITUATION I WAS IN BUT I DIDN'T GET IN TROUBLE FOR IT
12:07:28 BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING, BUT STILL CIRCUMSTANCES COULD
12:07:30 BE DIFFERENT.
12:07:31 WHAT I STRUGGLE WITH THE VOTE, I TURN TO GOD.
12:07:35 I'M A PERSON OF FAITH AND I PRAY.
12:07:37 AND I ASK OTHER PEOPLE THEIR ADVICE, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
12:07:41 I BELIEVE IN SECOND CHANCES.
12:07:43 BUT AGAIN, NOT EVERYBODY GETS A SECOND CHANCE.
12:07:47 AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CIRCUMSTANCES WITH CHIEF
12:07:50 O'CONNOR WHO IS STANDING BEFORE US, AND WHAT HAPPENED IN
12:07:53 1995.
12:07:54 BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT HER CAREER AFTERWARDS.
12:07:58 SHE WAS FIRED AND THEN HAD HER JOB REINSTATED, AND THE
12:08:02 CAREER AFTER THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERSONNEL FILE AS SOME
12:08:05 PEOPLE HAVE, I THINK -- I DON'T THINK THERE'S A BLEMISH ON
12:08:09 IT.
12:08:10 YOU HAVE HAD PEOPLE COME OUT SPEAKING FOR IT THAT HAVE
12:08:14 WORKED ALONGSIDE HER, AND IN ALL CAPACITIES.
12:08:18 WE HAVE USED THE WORD PROCESS OVERWHELMINGLY TODAY, AND IT'S
12:08:23 PROBABLY THE MOST USED WORD I HAVE HEARD IN THE LAST MONTH.
12:08:26 THE PROCESS IS FLAWED.
12:08:30 I WAS THERE AT THE PUBLIC FORUM WITH THE TWO OUT OF THREE
12:08:34 CANDIDATES, CHIEF DELGADO WAS NOT THERE FOR FAMILY ISSUES
12:08:39 AND IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
12:08:40 AND I DON'T KNOW YOU VERY WELL, SIR.
12:08:42 YOU ARE A NICE GUY.
12:08:44 WE HAVE HAD TWO CONVERSATIONS, ONE IN THE PHONE AND ONE IN
12:08:46 PERSON.
12:08:46 THAT'S ALL I KNOW.
12:08:47 BUT THE PEOPLE OF WEST TAMPA LOVE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
12:08:50 I DON'T KNOW THEM.
12:08:54 BUT FROM EVERYTHING THEY HAVE SAID YOUR REPUTATION SPEAKS
12:08:57 FOR ITSELF.
12:08:57 NOTHING BUT POSITIVE THINGS.
12:08:59 I WENT UP TO MARY O'CONNOR, I SAID YOU HAVE DONE A NICE JOB,
12:09:04 WHAT A NICE END WHEN YOU CLOSED IT OUT.
12:09:08 MAYOR CASTOR SAID MARY O'CONNOR, MARY O'CONNOR.
12:09:11 I GAVE CHIEF O'CONNOR OH HER COMMENDATION WHEN SHE RETIRED
12:09:15 FROM TPD.
12:09:16 AND WE HAVE A GREAT PICTURE TOGETHER.
12:09:18 SO I STRUGGLE WITH THIS VOTE BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY HUGE
12:09:22 ISSUES FACING US.
12:09:24 WE HAVE SIX COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE.
12:09:25 WE HAVE NEXT WEEK IS GOING TO BE CRAZY.
12:09:28 THE WEEK AFTER IS GOING TO BE CRAZY AND THEN WE GET TO A
12:09:31 POINTS --
12:09:32 [BELL SOUNDS]
12:09:32 ALMOST DONE.
12:09:33 SO IS IT WORTH THE BATTLE TO DENY SOMEBODY?
12:09:35 IS IT WORTH IT?
12:09:37 AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS TO HAVE A 3-3 VOTE AND SEE WHERE IT
12:09:41 GOES FROM THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE SIX PEOPLE NOW.
12:09:44 YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, DO WE LIKE THE PROCESS? NO.
12:09:48 IS EVERYBODY HAPPY?
12:09:49 NO.
12:09:50 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID IN SO MANY WAYS, IN SO MANY WORDS,
12:09:53 EVERYBODY LEAVES UNHAPPY.
12:09:55 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
12:09:56 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
12:09:57 NOBODY WINS, NORTHBOUND LOSES.
12:10:01 AGAIN THIS IS A L IS A VERY DIFFICULT VOTE BECAUSE OF THE
12:10:03 OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE REACHED OUT IN ALL
12:10:06 ASPECTS.
12:10:07 AND I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
12:10:09 AND I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE PEOPLE.
12:10:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
12:10:16 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ECHO SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES
12:10:19 COMMENTS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY THING.
12:10:20 THANKS EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TODAY ESPECIALLY FOR THE
12:10:23 FRIENDS OF CHIEF NOMINEE O'CONNOR FOR COMING OUT.
12:10:28 WE MET A COUPLE DAYS AGO.
12:10:30 SHE SAID, ARE YOU OKAY, DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE BAD FORM IF
12:10:34 A BUNCH OF MY FRIENDS CAME?
12:10:35 AND I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE SO I THANK YOU FOR
12:10:38 BRINGING THEM.
12:10:38 LISTENING TO SOMEBODY WHO HAS KNOWN YOU FOR 20 OR 30 YEARS
12:10:41 IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN A LOBBYIST GIVING A BUSINESS
12:10:45 PERSON WHO COMES UP HERE TO SAY SOMETHING SO I THOUGHT THAT
12:10:47 WAS VERY VALUABLE SO THANKS TO ALL OF THEM.
12:10:50 I WANT TO THANK BUTCH DELGADO ALSO.
12:10:54 LES GREAT TO WORK WITH AND VERY POPULAR.
12:10:56 MOST IMPORTANTLY HE HELPED US GET RID OF THE RACIST POLICY
12:10:59 OF THE LAST ADMINISTRATION RENTING WHILE BLACK AND WE
12:11:02 BROUGHT THAT IN FOR A LANDING.
12:11:04 AND CHIEF NOMINEE O'CONNOR A COUPLE OF TIMES, VERY IMPRESSED
12:11:12 WITH YOU AND YOUR BACKGROUND, AND SHE COMMITTED TO CIVIL
12:11:15 RIGHTS AND TO CONTINUE TO END THOSE RACIST POLICIES FROM THE
12:11:19 LAST ADMINISTRATION.
12:11:20 ONE WAS BIKING WHILE BLACK, RENTING WHILE BLACK, AND THERE
12:11:23 ARE OTHERS.
12:11:24 WE ALL KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AND WE CANNOT GO FORWARD, THIS
12:11:26 COMMUNITY CANNOT SUCCEED IF WE HAVE RACIAL OPPRESSION.
12:11:30 AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, GO TO
12:11:32 TAMPASCORECARD.COM AND YOU WILL SEE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS
12:11:36 DURING THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC BOON IN AMERICAN HISTORY, TAMPA
12:11:38 FAILED ECONOMICALLY.
12:11:39 IF YOU LOOK AT THE CENSUS DATA.
12:11:42 I WANT TO WELCOME, I THINK, MS. O'CONNOR'S KIDS ARE HERE, I
12:11:46 WANT TO WELCOME THEM.
12:11:47 I MADE A COMMITMENT TO HER IN THE BEGINNING.
12:11:49 I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BAD TO SAY ABOUT HER IN ANY WAY BUT I
12:11:52 SAID I AM NOT SAYING ANYTHING BAD ABOUT YOU BECAUSE YOUR
12:11:56 KIDS READ THE PAPER.
12:11:57 MY KIDS ALSO READ IT.
12:11:59 AND THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS LEAKED INFORMATION TO CAUSE
12:12:03 MISLEADING STORIES ABOUT ME AND I KNOW THAT PAIN AND I AM
12:12:05 NOT GOING TO DO THAT TO YOU, I WOULD NOT DO THAT TO YOU.
12:12:07 IF I HAVE A DISPUTE WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE I AM GOING TO
12:12:09 CALL YOU AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ABOUT IT.
12:12:12 OTHER MEMBERS HERE HAVE READ NEGATIVE NEWS THAT THE
12:12:14 ADMINISTRATION HAS LEAKED AS WELL, INCLUDING A FORMER
12:12:18 COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER, WHO THE STAFF LEAKED ON MONDAY
12:12:20 AFTER HE WAS NO LONGER A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
12:12:23 I THINK THAT'S DESPICABLE.
12:12:25 TODAY, I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT CANDIDATE, BUT I HAVE TO SET
12:12:29 THAT ASIDE AND TALK ABOUT PROCESS.
12:12:32 AND REALLY IT'S NOT JUST PROCESS.
12:12:33 IT'S ABOUT DEMOCRACY.
12:12:34 DEMOCRACY IS AT RISK IN THIS CITY, AND MOST OF THE CALLS I
12:12:38 AM GETTING ARE NOT ABOUT CANDIDATES.
12:12:40 IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING DEMOCRACY IN THIS CITY.
12:12:42 THE PROCESS WAS NOT TRANSPARENT.
12:12:45 IT WAS DISRESPECTFUL.
12:12:46 NOT JUST OF COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY DISRESPECTFUL OF COUNCIL BUT
12:12:49 DISRESPECTFUL TO THE PUBLIC.
12:12:51 AND IN OUR MEETING A FEW WEEKS AGO WE GAVE FEEDBACK IF WE
12:12:56 DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY IN PARTICULAR WE WHAT TOAD PICK AND
12:12:59 WOULD YOU THINK THE NEXT RESPONSE WOULD BE THAT THE MAYOR
12:13:01 WOULD CALL EACH OF US AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE APOLOGIZE, WE
12:13:05 ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE PROCESS, WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER?
12:13:08 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MY COLLEAGUES I.DIDN'T GET A SCHEDULE.
12:13:11 I UNDER THERE WAS NOT A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT CAMPAIGN, BUT A
12:13:14 CAMPAIGN WHERE FRIENDS OF THE ADMINISTRATION, STAFF AND
12:13:17 LOBBYISTS STRONG ARMED PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC TO TELL THEM
12:13:21 THAT THEY SHOULD SUPPORT THIS CANDIDATE.
12:13:23 AND THE CANDIDATE WAS NOT DOING THAT BUT SOMEBODY AROUND THE
12:13:26 MAYOR WAS DOING IT.
12:13:27 WHY?
12:13:28 AND THEN THEY JUSTIFIED SAYING WE HAVE A STRONG MAYOR FORM
12:13:31 OF GOVERNMENT.
12:13:31 IT'S NOT A DICTATORSHIP.
12:13:33 WE DID THAT FOR EIGHT YEARS.
12:13:35 WE CANNOT GO BACK TO THAT SITUATION.
12:13:37 IN AMERICA, I IN AMERICA WE BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY, BALANCE OF
12:13:41 POWERS.
12:13:42 A STRONG MAYOR OF FORM OF GOVERNMENT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T
12:13:44 LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC OR LISTEN TO CITY COUNCIL.
12:13:47 SO THEN WE GET FEEDBACK AGAIN AND WE TRY TO BE RESPECTFUL OF
12:13:51 IT AND MY EXPECTATION WAS WE'LL GET AN OLIVE BRANCH, AN
12:13:56 APOLOGY, A PHONE CALL, A NEW PROCESS.
12:13:59 INSTEAD, PEOPLE AROUND THE MAYOR STARTED INTRODUCING THE
12:14:02 CHIEF NOMINEE AS THE POLICE CHIEF AND THEN WE GO FARTHER TO
12:14:07 SAY YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO CALL HER A NOMINEE.
12:14:09 IT HAS TO DO WITH DISRESPECTING THE PUBLIC AND CITY COUNCIL.
12:14:15 IT'S --
12:14:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCILMAN IS SPEAKING.
12:14:22 WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT.
12:14:22 >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEN WE WERE ATTACKED FOR CONSISTENTLY
12:14:28 IN THE MEDIA, MISLEADING COMMENTS, SEVEN MEMBER OF TAMPA,
12:14:34 PRO WOMAN, ALL KIND OF NEGATIVE THINGS CAME OUT, BY THE WAY,
12:14:37 WE APPROVED THE NOMINEE AND WE DID SO IN GOOD FAITH THINKING
12:14:43 THAT THAT PERSON WOULD BE COLLABORATIVE WITH US.
12:14:45 THE "ST. PETE TIMES," TAMPA BAY TIMES CAME OUT FOR THE
12:14:52 INCREDIBLY DIVISIVE COMMENTS THAT THAT PERSON ON BEHALF OF
12:14:57 THE MAYOR.
12:14:57 AND THEN THAN THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT,
12:15:00 BUT WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION WORKS TO SABOTAGE SEVERAL
12:15:05 SITTING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND LEAK INFORMATION THAT
12:15:07 CAUSES A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO HAVE TO RESIGN THAT IS
12:15:10 DESPICABLE.
12:15:11 THE PUBLIC WANTS THE ADMINISTRATION TO STOP THE ATTACKS,
12:15:13 THEY WANT THE ADMINISTRATION TO STOP THE POLITICS, THEY WANT
12:15:16 THE ADMINISTRATION TO STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES, STOP
12:15:20 DIVISIVENESS AND STOP THE CONTROVERSIES.
12:15:22 WE NEED TO HAVE DEMOCRACY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
12:15:24 WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.
12:15:26 AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENED BY THE WAY IF YOU VOTE YES BECAUSE
12:15:28 YOU WANT TO GET ON THE GOD SIDE OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
12:15:31 I VOTED YES ON HANNA AVENUE, SO DID DINGFELDER, ONE OF THE
12:15:35 WORST POLICY THINGS IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
12:15:38 WE STILL GOT ATTACKED AND DINGFELDER IS NO LONGER ON CITY
12:15:40 COUNCIL.
12:15:41 I WOULD ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO START OVER, BE RESPECTFUL
12:15:45 OF THE PUBLIC, TO CITY COUNCIL, BE RESPECTFUL OF THE BALANCE
12:15:48 OF POWERS IN THIS COMMUNITY, ALWAYS BE RESPECTFUL OF
12:15:51 DEMOCRACY IN THIS COUNTRY.
12:15:52 THANK YOU.
12:15:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:15:54 [ APPLAUSE ]
12:15:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT.
12:16:04 MY COLLEAGUES, MS. O'CONNOR, IT'S NOT PERSONAL.
12:16:11 I WAS UPSET YESTERDAY WHEN I CALLED CHIEF BENNETT AT HOME,
12:16:17 AND THE COMMENT THAT I WOULDN'T MEET WITH YOU WHEN I MET
12:16:21 WITH YOU PREVIOUSLY, BUT I GET CALLS, PEOPLE TELLING ME
12:16:31 THINGS ABOUT AN INVESTIGATION.
12:16:33 HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?
12:16:42 HOW DO THEY KNOW THAT?
12:16:44 WE DON'T DO THIS, WE HAVE GOT TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE A
12:16:47 LOT OF PROJECTS ON THE TABLE AND THE MAYOR MAY NOT GIVE YOU
12:16:50 A PROJECT.
12:16:52 BUT I TELL YOU, MY FRIENDS, YOU KNOW, COMPROMISE WITH THE
12:16:59 ADMINISTRATION, COMPROMISE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, ON
12:17:04 SEVERAL ISSUES.
12:17:08 I BEG YOU TO STAND WITH YOUR CHAIRMAN BEHIND ME TO SUPPORT
12:17:12 THE ADMINISTRATION.
12:17:19 WE FEEL DISRESPECTED.
12:17:21 TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
12:17:23 MR. BENNETT WORKED WITH US.
12:17:26 BUT I KNOW SOMETIMES HE HAS TO STAY IN HIS LANE.
12:17:30 YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE POWERS THAT BE THAT WORK WITH THE
12:17:33 ADMINISTRATION TO SAY HEY, YOU HAVE TO GO THIS WAY.
12:17:37 YOU DON'T LIKE CONTROVERSY, LIKES TO WORK THINGS OUT.
12:17:41 BUT THE POWER BEHIND IT, GOING ON WITH THIS COUNCIL, SICK OF
12:17:46 IT.
12:17:47 I TOLD YOU YESTERDAY, I SAID YOU ARE A CASUALTY.
12:17:52 I SAID IT AIN'T YOUR FAULT, BUT YOU MIGHT BE A CASUALTY IN
12:17:56 THIS PROCESS.
12:17:57 BUT IT'S NOT PERSONAL ISSUE.
12:17:59 IT'S NOT.
12:18:01 IT'S NOT PERSONAL AT ALL.
12:18:03 I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHER MEMBERS WILL VOTE, BUT YOU MAY BE A
12:18:08 CASUALTY TODAY.
12:18:09 AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE A GOOD RECORD.
12:18:13 YOU HAD A BLEMISH.
12:18:15 I GOT COMPLAINTS.
12:18:22 SO I KNOW THE WITCH HUNT IS ON.
12:18:23 BUT THAT'S OKAY.
12:18:24 I'M A SOLDIER.
12:18:27 I CAN DO IT FOR MY COMMUNITY.
12:18:30 I SEE BRIAN BACK THERE.
12:18:31 BUT WHAT I DIDN'T SEE TODAY, NOT ONE, NOT ONE BLACK OFFICER
12:18:38 COME HERE.
12:18:40 I AIN'T SEEN ONE.
12:18:44 BUT CHIEF BENNETT EARLIER, AFTER SO MANY DAYS, I ASKED CHIEF
12:18:57 BENNETT, WHICH WAY ARE YOU COMING TODAY?
12:19:05 I TAKE HIM AT HIS WORD BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHEN, THEY
12:19:10 FOLLOW ORDERS.
12:19:11 THERE MIGHT BE SOME THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT BUT THE
12:19:17 POLICE DEPARTMENT IS A MILITARY ORGANIZATION.
12:19:19 NO MATTER WHO THE CHIEF, THEY ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THEIR
12:19:21 ORDER.
12:19:22 I TOLD MARY YESTERDAY, YOU MAY BE IN WITH THE CHIEF BUT THE
12:19:28 CHARTER SAYS, YOU MAY THE CHIEF IN THEORY BUT AIN'T ACHIEVE
12:19:35 BECAUSE I TALK TO OTHER CHIEFS.
12:19:40 THINGS I WANT TO CHANGE, I CAN'T CHANGE, BECAUSE I HAVE TO
12:19:42 FOLLOW ORDERS.
12:19:44 MY BOSS.
12:19:46 I LIKE YOU, MARY, BUT THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN.
12:19:52 AT THIS TIME PROCESS.
12:19:53 THEY FELT DISRESPECTED.
12:19:56 AS CHAIRMAN, I THINK I HAVE HAD THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL
12:20:00 ISSUES THIS YEAR AS THE CHAIRMAN OF ALL THE ISSUES THAT HAVE
12:20:03 COME UP, AND I HAVE BEEN A CHAMPION BECAUSE I GET OVER THEM.
12:20:08 I THINK I HAVE BEEN A CHAMPION TO GET OVER THEM.
12:20:12 WE HAVE A LOT OF TOUGH ISSUES.
12:20:17 AND THIS IS THE TOUGHEST ONE I WOULD HAVE TO MAKE BUT I HAVE
12:20:20 TO LOOK AT MARY ANN LEWIS WHO IS A STRONG SUPPORTER FOR THE
12:20:26 POLICE DEPARTMENT, EVER COME TO MARY, BUT COULDN'T MAKE
12:20:32 MAJOR.
12:20:33 COULDN'T MAKE MAJOR.
12:20:36 YOU KNOW, WE HAD A DEAL MADE AT ONE TIME WHEN ONE MAYOR WAS
12:20:41 RUNNING, PROMISED HE WOULD BE AT THE TABLE.
12:20:43 AND WE GOT BAMBOOZLED.
12:20:45 AND LOOK AT SAM JONES, COULD NEVER MAKE MAJOR.
12:20:48 HE WAS THE MOST DISCIPLINED GUY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
12:20:55 AND NEVER COULD GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO THE TOP BECAUSE
12:20:57 OTHER POWERS TOLD THE CHIEF YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT GUY MAJOR.
12:21:02 AND GONZALEZ CAME IN, CHANGED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT,
12:21:06 DIVERSIFIED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE HE WAS SOMEONE
12:21:10 NEW, HAD DIFFERENT IDEAS AND CAME HERE, AND MET SAM JONES, A
12:21:13 STRONG OF CAR THEFTS GOING ON, AND CAME IN AND SAID MAKE SAM
12:21:21 JONES THE CAPTAIN THE NEXT DAY.
12:21:24 I CAN TELL YOU A LOT OF STORIES, GENTLEMEN, BUT I WOULDN'T
12:21:28 DO THAT TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
12:21:32 AND MARY PROBABLY COULD BE THAT PERSON THAT COULD MAKE IT
12:21:35 HAPPEN.
12:21:39 I REMEMBER WHEN TINA WRIGHT WAS RUNNING.
12:21:43 NOW I FEEL BAD THAT DIDN'T SUPPORT HER AT THAT TIME.
12:21:52 I'M SAYING THAT PUBLICLY.
12:21:55 I'M TIRED OF MAKING DECISIONS WE REGRET, AND SOMETIMES
12:21:59 MAKING DECISIONS THAT ARE HARD TO MAKE.
12:22:03 TODAY IS GOING TO BE THE HARDEST I HAVE TO MAKE BECAUSE WHEN
12:22:05 I RECEIVE A CALL FROM SOMEONE WHO WORKED FOR THE CITY FOR
12:22:08 OVER 20-SOME YEARS AND NOW HE'S RETIRED AND GOES TO THE FILE
12:22:13 THE APPLICATION AND TELL HIM -- THIS MAN JUST RETIRED A YEAR
12:22:20 AGO.
12:22:22 DO WE CHANGE THE BACKGROUND, DO WE CHANGE THE BACKGROUND SO
12:22:28 A PERSON, WITH A POSSIBLE BLEMISH I SHALL, TO COME ONTO THE
12:22:33 POLICE DEPARTMENT?
12:22:35 DO WE HAVE THAT COMMITMENT TO DO THOSE CHANGES?
12:22:42 SOMETIMES I MAID MAKE MISTAKES.
12:22:44 OTHER PEOPLE MAKE THEM, YOU KNOW.
12:22:46 WHEN I RAN, AT THE LAST MINUTE, I HAD A FLAG ABOUT MY POLICE
12:22:52 RECORD BUT THE VOTERS SAW PAST THAT AND THOUGHT I WAS THE
12:22:56 STRONGER CANDIDATE AND I YOU KNOW HOW THAT GOES.
12:23:02 I TOLD YOU THAT YESTERDAY, MARY.
12:23:07 SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE CONSTITUENTS.
12:23:10 SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS.
12:23:13 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT VOTE MAY BE IN A FEW MINUTES.
12:23:16 I WISH YOU WELL.
12:23:18 BUT ALL I CAN SAY, THAT'S ALL I CAN DO.
12:23:25 BELL BOWL ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE IT AND
12:23:29 TAKE A VOTE.
12:23:30 MR. MIRANDA MOVED TO CLOSE.
12:23:36 ALL RIGHT
12:23:37 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS
12:23:44 COUNCIL REAL QUICK.
12:23:45 TWO THINGS.
12:23:46 ONE, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS, IF THERE IS EITHER AN
12:23:54 APOLOGY OR CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT OR WHATEVER ELSE, I'M THE
12:23:58 PROCESS.
12:23:58 AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY I'M THE PROCESS, BECAUSE ALL OF THE
12:24:01 NAMES THAT WERE MENTIONED AS DIRECTOR, THREE OF THEM WERE
12:24:04 DONE IN A NATIONAL SEARCH PROCESS.
12:24:08 IRRESPECTIVE OF MARY O'CONNOR.
12:24:14 TERES A HILLS, A NATIONAL SEARCH PROCESS.
12:24:18 J.C. HUDSON.
12:24:20 WE FOUND THE TALENT IN OUR OWN BACKYARD.
12:24:23 I AM THE PROCESS SO I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO EITHER NOW OR
12:24:25 LATER TO WORK WITH COUNCIL AND FIX THAT PROCESS, AND
12:24:28 CHAIRMAN OF PUBLIC SAFETY, IF I OFFENDED YOU IN THAT
12:24:30 PROCESS, THEN I AM STANDING HERE TO APOLOGIZE.
12:24:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
12:24:36 CHIEF, YOU NEVER OFFEND ME.
12:24:38 YOU AND I HAVE WORKED TOGETHER.
12:24:41 I AM JUST STATING TO YOU, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN, IN MY OPINION,
12:24:46 MORE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE BEEN IN THIS PROCESS, AS ANY OTHER
12:24:51 DIRECTOR OR DEPARTMENT HEAD WHO WAS GOING TO BE NOMINATED OR
12:24:54 APPOINTED FOR THAT POSITION, WHETHER IT BE THE BUDGET,
12:24:58 WHETHER IT BE SOLID WASTE, WHETHER IT BE PARKS AND
12:25:01 RECREATION.
12:25:03 IN THE FUTURE, IF I MAY JUST THROW IN MY PIECE NOW.
12:25:11 THE COMMITTEE CHAIR IS -- TO THE PROCESS.
12:25:15 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SAY THAT, CHAIRMAN.
12:25:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THAT'S IN THE BEGINNING I TOLD THE
12:25:22 CHIEF YOU NEED TO HAVE THE DIRECTORS COME MEET WITH
12:25:25 COUNCILMEN BEFORE THE VOTE SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHO THEY ARE
12:25:27 AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING TO DO.
12:25:29 WE DID THAT WITH NICOLE.
12:25:32 I THINK FOR THE POLICE CHIEF, I THINK IT IS THE MOST -- NOT
12:25:38 DISRESPECTING CHIEF TRIPP BUT THE POLICE CHIEF IS THE MOST
12:25:43 POWERFUL, EVEN MORE POWERFUL THAN THE MAYOR.
12:25:45 I THINK THE COMMUNITY ASSUMES THAT WHEN THE MAYOR SAID A
12:25:50 NATIONAL SEARCH, WE ASSUMED WE WOULD BE A PART OF THAT
12:25:53 PROCESS, AND HAVE A CHANCE TO SIT ON THAT AND BE PART OF
12:26:01 THAT PROCESS, AND SIT AT THE TABLE WITH THE MAYOR AT THAT
12:26:07 TIME WHO EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
12:26:11 I THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED, THE COMMUNITY FELT AROUND THE
12:26:17 CITY THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THEY FELT THEY WERE GOING TO
12:26:20 BE PART OF THE PROCESS AND MAYBE THAT'S WHERE THEY GOT IT
12:26:23 STARTED.
12:26:24 MR. CARLSON.
12:26:25 >>BILL CARLSON: CHIEF BENNETT, YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AN
12:26:28 HONEST BROKER WORKING WITH US AND I APPRECIATE IT.
12:26:30 EVERYTHING YOU HAVE OF SAID TO ME YOU HAVE DONE AND
12:26:32 HOPEFULLY I HAVE DONE THE SAME.
12:26:34 AND YOU ARE VERY WELL RESPECT IN IT COMMUNITY, YOU ARE YOU
12:26:39 GO THROUGH THE DETAILS, YOU ALWAYS GO THROUGH A LOT MORE
12:26:42 DATA DETAILS THAN I DO.
12:26:43 THE PROBLEM HERE, AS WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT, IS
12:26:48 OFFLINE, IS THAT THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE ACTING AROUND THE
12:26:51 MAYOR THAT YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER.
12:26:52 AND I WILL JUST ASK YOU ONE EXAMPLE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT
12:26:57 FOR A SECOND, DID YOU AUTHORIZE OR TELL THE HEAD OF
12:26:59 COMMUNICATION TO SAY THAT IT'S DESPICABLE, WHATEVER THE WORD
12:27:03 WAS, THAT SEVEN MEN CAN'T APPROVE A WOMAN?
12:27:06 DID YOU DIRECT HIM TO DO THAT?
12:27:08 >>JOHN BENNETT: I DON'T USUALLY ENGAGE WITH COMMUNICATIONS.
12:27:11 >>BILL CARLSON: SO THE POINT IS YOU WOULD NEVER DO
12:27:13 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
12:27:14 YOU WOULD NEVER TELL COMMUNICATION TO SAY CITY COUNCIL
12:27:18 MEMBERS WANT TO CHANGE THE CHARTER BECAUSE THEY WERE
12:27:22 INEFFECTIVE, AND DEALING WITH THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION
12:27:27 WHICH WE HAVE ALL TALKED AT LENGTH WITH, GUIDED BY THE LAST
12:27:30 MAYOR THROUGH HIS APPOINTEES, AND CITY ATTORNEY WHO WAS
12:27:34 CARRYING WATER FOR HIM, AND SO THE POINT IS THAT THE THINGS
12:27:39 THAT ARE GOING ON AROUND THIS DECISION THAT WE DON'T LIKE, I
12:27:43 DON'T THINK ANY OF THEM ARE RELATED TO YOU.
12:27:45 I KNOW YOU WANT TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE YOU ARE
12:27:47 AN HONORABLE PERSON, BUT THESE THINGS HAVE NOTHING TO DO
12:27:50 WITH YOU.
12:27:51 SO THE MAYOR AND YOU, I HOPE, CAN GET CONTROL OF THESE
12:27:55 PEOPLE.
12:27:55 MOST OF THEM ARE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, SOME OF THEM
12:27:58 INSIDE.
12:27:59 THE PEOPLE INSIDE THE CITY ARE LEAKING DOCUMENTS AND TALKING
12:28:02 ABOUT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IS HORRIBLE.
12:28:03 WE HAVE TO STOP THIS.
12:28:05 EVERYBODY IS ASKING WHY ARE THERE SO MANY -- HOW MANY TIMES
12:28:09 HAVE I COME TO YOU AND SAY PLEASE ASK THEM TO STOP.
12:28:13 PLEASE ASK THEM TO STOP.
12:28:14 AND SENDING E-MAILS, AND SAYING PLEASE ASK THEM TO STOP.
12:28:17 WE ALL WANT TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY.
12:28:21 PLEASE LET'S LOOK AT THIS PROCESS A DIFFERENT WAY AND WE GET
12:28:25 MORE ATTACKS.
12:28:25 THIS DEMOCRACY IS AT STAKE IN OUR CITY RIGHT NOW.
12:28:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I REMEMBER THE CHIEF BEING THE
12:28:34 COMMUNICATION PERSON AND I REMEMBER, TOLD HER, NEXT TIME IT
12:28:40 HAPPENS HE'S GOING TO DEAL WITH HER.
12:28:42 I REMEMBER THAT.
12:28:42 SO I APPRECIATE HIM FOR DOING THAT.
12:28:44 SO I DON'T THINK IT'S MR. BENNETT.
12:28:49 THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE.
12:28:50 I KNOW THIS GUY TRIES TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE RIGHT AND SO
12:28:55 WE CAN'T LAY IT ON HIM AT ALL.
12:28:59 I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER PART OF IT.
12:29:01 BUT I JUST THINK THAT WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE CHARTER AND
12:29:05 INTERPRETATION.
12:29:06 IT SEEMS THAT SOMETIMES WHEN WE HAVE AN ISSUE IT DOESN'T GO
12:29:11 OW WAY, BUT IT GOES THE OTHER WAY, AND WE DON'T REMEMBER THE
12:29:14 INTERPRETATION CERTAIN WAYS.
12:29:18 SO I THINK THAT'S WHY COUNCIL IS A LITTLE UPSET.
12:29:22 I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, THIS COUNCIL JUST FEELS
12:29:28 DISRESPECTED ABOUT THE PROCESS, AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS IN
12:29:32 THE PAPER AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.
12:29:34 I THINK MOVING FORWARD, NO MATTER HOW WE VOTED, I THINK
12:29:38 MOVING FORWARD WE CAN CORRECT THOSE ISSUES.
12:29:40 WE HAVE A CHARTER REVIEW COMING UP NEXT WEEK.
12:29:42 AND BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
12:29:43 I KNOW YOU CAN HANDLE SOME OF THE SITUATIONS AND I KNOW YOU
12:29:46 WILL MAKE IT BETTER.
12:29:47 BUT I JUST THINK THINGS JUST FELL APART, AND WE HAVE GOT TO
12:29:51 PICK THE PIECES UP AND PUT THEM BACK TOGETHER, MR. MIRANDA,
12:29:55 LIKE YOU SAID.
12:29:55 >>JOHN BENNETT: AND THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK, EVERYBODY.
12:29:59 I'M JUST GRATEFUL THAT COUNCIL IS SEPARATING THE PROCESS
12:30:02 FROM CHIEF O'CONNOR'S ABILITY TO LEAD THE DEPARTMENT.
12:30:05 AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY ON THE RECORD WAS,
12:30:08 THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND MY OFFICE HAVE STARTED A PATHWAYS TO
12:30:13 PROFESSION AND THERE'S A LOT OF SECOND CHANCES GIVEN TO
12:30:15 PEOPLE THAT NEVER GOT A JOB THAT I SAW IN GOVERNMENT, AND WE
12:30:19 ARE REALLY READY TO CELEBRATE THAT, BECAUSE WE PILOTED THIS
12:30:23 PROJECT, AND HAVE PEOPLE WORKING THERE THAT HAVE NEVER HAD
12:30:26 AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN GOVERNMENT BEFORE.
12:30:28 SO THANK YOU.
12:30:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.
12:30:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF BENNETT, REAL QUICK, I MET WITH
12:30:34 CHIEF O'CONNOR, MARY O'CONNOR THE OTHER MORNING, AND I SAID
12:30:37 JOHN BENNETT IS A SAINT, AND YOU COULDN'T PAY ME TO SAY
12:30:41 ANYTHING BAD ABOUT HIM.
12:30:42 AND THAT'S HOW I FEEL.
12:30:44 YOU ARE A VERY HONORABLE INDIVIDUAL AND I DON'T THINK
12:30:47 ANYBODY IS PUTTING BLAME ON YOU.
12:30:49 YOUR REPUTATION SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
12:30:51 YOU'RE A GOOD MAN. IN REGARDS TO THIS UPCOMING VOTE NOW
12:30:54 THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE FOR THE CHIEF, SHOULD I SAY YES,
12:31:00 WHICH I CAN HEAR PEOPLE'S HEADS EXPLODING, BECAUSE WEST
12:31:06 TAMPA HAS COME OUT UNBELIEVABLY, EVERYWHERE I GO.
12:31:10 HOWEVER, SHOULD SHE BE APPROVED, OR CONFIRMED, I WOULD LIKE
12:31:14 TO HAVE A TOWN HALL WITH YOU.
12:31:16 I'M THINKING OF CHIEF O'CONNOR, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET TO
12:31:21 KNOW YOU.
12:31:21 I WANT TO TAKE YOU OUT TO THE NAYSAYERS.
12:31:24 I KNOW YOU HAVE DONE SOME COMMUNITY OUTREACH BUT I WANT TO
12:31:27 TAKE YOU TO THE REGULAR NEIGHBOR THAT'S HAVING A CUBAN BE
12:31:33 SANDWICH, THE PEOPLE THAT SAY DON'T DO THIS, I'M SORRY, HOW
12:31:36 CAN YOU CONFIRM THIS INDIVIDUAL?
12:31:39 I THINK YOU CAN CHANGE SOME PEOPLE'S OPINIONS LIKE THAT.
12:31:42 YOU ARE GOING TO BE THE CHIEF.
12:31:43 IF YOU ARE CONFIRMED, YOU ARE GOING TO BE OUT THERE, YOU ARE
12:31:47 GOING TO SEE THESE FOLKS INDIVIDUALLY, AFT LEAST CHANGE
12:31:51 THEIR MIND.
12:31:51 A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID ONCE I GOT TO KNOW HER, WE CHANGED OUR
12:31:55 OPINION.
12:31:55 AND I HAVE HEARD THAT FROM PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, PEOPLE
12:31:58 OUTSIDE OF THIS ROOM, AND THAT'S IT.
12:32:01 I BELIEVE IN SECOND CHANCES AND FORGIVENESS.
12:32:04 THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE IN LIFE.
12:32:06 SOME PEOPLE JUST SAY NO, AND DENY THAT SECOND CHANCE TO SAID
12:32:12 INDIVIDUAL FOR WHATEVER THEY HAVE DONE.
12:32:13 I AM NOT THAT KIND OF PERSON.
12:32:15 AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A WAR I WANT TO START.
12:32:19 WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS COMING UP IN THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS.
12:32:24 I THINK AGAIN, SHOULD YOU BE CONFIRMED, THAT WE GO OUT IN
12:32:28 THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, AND WITHOUT THE OTHER COUNCIL
12:32:31 MEMBERS AND LET PEOPLE GET TO KNOW YOU, I THINK WE CAN
12:32:33 CHANGE THEIR OPINION.
12:32:34 THANK YOU.
12:32:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
12:32:36 MR. MIRANDA, MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CLOSE.
12:32:39 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDS.
12:32:40 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:32:41 OPPOSED?
12:32:42 MARYLAND MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
12:32:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS NUMBER --
12:32:47 >> FILE F22-73272.
12:32:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, ITEM 26, FILE F22-73272,
12:33:02 RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE APPOINTMENT BY THE MAYOR OF THE
12:33:05 CITY OF TAMPA MARY O'CONNOR AS CHIEF AND HEAD OF THE CITY OF
12:33:09 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:33:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
12:33:16 ROLL CALL.
12:33:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:33:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF O'CONNOR, I EXPECT THAT IF ANYTHING
12:33:30 HAPPENS, THE FIRST PERSON YOU CALL IS YOUR DEPARTMENT HEAD.
12:33:33 SECOND PERSON YOU CALL IS THE MAYOR.
12:33:37 HOPEFULLY, THE CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY WILL BE IN THAT
12:33:40 GROUP ALSO.
12:33:43 I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST.
12:33:50 YES.
12:33:50 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:33:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:33:53 >>BILL CARLSON: WITH GREAT RESPECT TO THE NOMINEE, MY VOTE
12:33:58 IS NO BECAUSE I OBJECT VIGOROUSLY TO THE PROCESS, AND EVEN
12:34:02 THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS GOING TO PASS, I ASK THE
12:34:05 ADMINISTRATION TO PLEASE STARTING TOMORROW, AND LET'S TRY TO
12:34:09 PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY AND BRING DEMOCRACY BACK.
12:34:12 THANK YOU.
12:34:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
12:34:15 RESPECTFULLY, MARY, I AM STILL GOING TO BE YOUR FRIEND, I AM
12:34:19 STILL GOING TO DO WHATEVER I NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE
12:34:22 SUCCESSFUL HERE, BUT I HAVE CONSTITUENTS I HAVE TO ANSWER
12:34:24 TO.
12:34:25 I FEEL THE PROCESS FAILED US.
12:34:26 BUT AGAIN I HAVE CONSTITUENTS THAT I HAVE TO ANSWER TO IN MY
12:34:29 COMMUNITY.
12:34:29 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND GUDES VOTING
12:34:36 NO.
12:34:36 >>LUIS VIERA: MR., MAY I SAY SOMETHING BRIEFLY?
12:34:39 THIS WILL BE MY SECOND TURN.
12:34:41 I APPRECIATE THAT.
12:34:41 I RESPECT EVERYBODY'S VOTES, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, GUDES,
12:34:46 CITRO, MIRANDA, EVERYBODY.
12:34:48 I JUST WANT TO CHALLENGE US ALL TO CONTINUE TO WORK
12:34:51 TOGETHER.
12:34:53 I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S REMARKS.
12:34:56 I MENTIONED THE TERM DEESCALATION, GETTING ALONG, HAVING OUR
12:35:01 DIFFERENCES.
12:35:01 THAT'S GREAT.
12:35:02 LET'S HAVE OUR DIFFERENCES.
12:35:03 BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WILL MAKE A RENEWED
12:35:09 COMMITMENT, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS
12:35:12 BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF ACUTE CAUSTIC ISSUES OUT THERE AND
12:35:16 WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR EYES ON CONSTITUENTS.
12:35:19 HE WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR REMARKS.
12:35:20 I THINK EVERYBODY WAS VERY SINCERE.
12:35:22 I APPRECIATE YOU.
12:35:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE LAST THING, WE COULD HAVE HAD THIS
12:35:27 AS A TIE VOTE, AND WE HAVE A 15-DAY PERIOD IN ORDER TO
12:35:34 CONFIRM OR NOT CONFIRM THE CHIEF.
12:35:36 THAT TIME WOULD HAVE RUN OUT AND EVEN WITH A TIE VOTE, THE
12:35:39 INDIVIDUAL WOULD HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED, I BELIEVE, IF LEGAL
12:35:44 STEPS IN AND SAYS I AM WRONG, BUT I THINK THAT'S HOW THE
12:35:47 CHARTER IS WRITTEN, BECAUSE IT'S A TIE VOTE, WE DON'T HAVE
12:35:50 THE 7th COUNCILMEMBER TO BREAK THAT TIE. IF ANYBODY HAS
12:35:53 ANY COMMENT ON THAT, WHATEVER.
12:35:57 BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.
12:36:02 I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS WAS NOT RIGHT.
12:36:05 WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE CHARTER THAT IS COMING UP SOON.
12:36:08 THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT CHANGING THAT.
12:36:10 AS IT'S WRITTEN TODAY, THIS IS THE MAYOR'S NOMINEE, AND HERE
12:36:14 WE ARE.
12:36:14 SO THAT'S IT.
12:36:15 THANK YOU.
12:36:15 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
12:36:20 I WON'T LET YOU DOWN.
12:36:24 >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN I MET WITH THE CHIEF A COUPLE DAYS AGO
12:36:26 I SAID I WILL DO WHATEVER I CAN TO SUPPORT YOU, ESPECIALLY
12:36:30 IF YOU RUN INTO ANY DIFFICULTIES IN MY DISTRICT I AM HAPPY
12:36:34 TO STAND UP AND STAND BESIDE YOU AND WORK WITH YOU.
12:36:37 TO THE MEDIA SINCE THEY ARE HERE, IS THAT I HAVE ASKED THE
12:36:41 ADMINISTRATION TO BRING BACK DEMOCRACY AND WORK WITH CITY
12:36:43 COUNCIL.
12:36:45 THE PATTERN IN THE PAST IS THAT IF ONE OR TWO CITY COUNCIL
12:36:48 MEMBERS VOTE AGAINST THE ADMINISTRATION, SOMEBODY IN THE
12:36:51 ADMINISTRATION LEAKS NEGATIVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE
12:36:54 COUNCILMEMBER.
12:36:55 SO IF YOU SEE A NEGATIVE STORY ABOUT EITHER OF US IN THE
12:36:58 NEXT WEEK, PLEASE COME BACK AND ASK THE ADMINISTRATION WHY
12:37:01 THEY DID THAT.
12:37:02 THANK YOU.
12:37:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE STAND ADJOURNED UNTIL 1:30.
12:37:10 (CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN RECESS)
12:37:17
13:44:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELCOME BACK, GENTLEMEN.
13:44:28 IT'S BEEN A TENSE MORNING.
13:44:32 I HOPE EVERYBODY GOT A PIECE OF LUNCH.
13:44:35 ALL RIGHT, MR. SHELBY, WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK -- ROLL CALL.
13:44:41 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
13:44:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
13:44:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
13:44:45 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
13:44:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
13:44:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
13:44:48 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
13:44:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
13:44:51 MR. SHELBY, YOU SAID THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO
13:44:55 STRAIGHTEN OUT?
13:44:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, WE CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
13:44:58 I THINK ITEM 71 IS GOING TO BE A CONTINUANCE.
13:45:03 I BELIEVE WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO OPEN UP -- IF YOU
13:45:07 WANT TO OPEN UP ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
13:45:09 >> MOVE TO OPEN.
13:45:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO MOVED.
13:45:11 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDS.
13:45:13 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:45:14 OPPOSED?
13:45:14 MOTION PASSED.
13:45:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. GARY, IF YOU STEP UP TO THE LECTERN
13:45:20 AND YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
13:45:23 THE MICROPHONE IS BUILT IN.
13:45:24 >> MY NAME IS GREGORY GARY.
13:45:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. GARY, WE ARE ON NUMBER 71, FILE DE
13:45:31 1-22-34-C.
13:45:34 YOUR HEARING IS OPEN.
13:45:35 THIS IS A REVIEW HEARING AND YOU ARE REQUESTING A
13:45:37 CONTINUANCE.
13:45:38 IS THAT CORRECT?
13:45:39 >> YES, SIR.
13:45:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATES WOULD BE MAY
13:45:42 5th OF 2022 AT 1:30 IN THE AFTERNOON.
13:45:45 >> YES.
13:45:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND YOU SHOULD MAKE A NOTE OF THAT,
13:45:49 PLEASE.
13:45:49 AND THAT'S YOUR REQUEST TO CITY COUNCIL?
13:45:51 >> YES, SIR.
13:45:55 >> THE SPECIFIED DATE, MR. SHELBY.
13:45:57 >> SECOND.
13:45:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, MR. MIRANDA SECOND IT.
13:46:00 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:46:02 ANY OPPOSED?
13:46:02 MOTION GRANTED.
13:46:03 THANK YOU, SIR.
13:46:04 MAY 5th, THE 2022.
13:46:07 >> THANK YOU.
13:46:07 WE'LL SEE YOU THEN.
13:46:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, ANY HOUSEKEEPING CHORES?
13:46:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM NUMBER 4, THERE IS A REQUEST BY THE
13:46:15 LEGAL DEPARTMENT WITH REGARD TO THAT.
13:46:17 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
13:46:22 WITH RESPECT -- RESPECTFULLY, ITEM NUMBER 4 WAS NOTICED FOR
13:46:28 PUBLIC HEARING, BUT IT'S NOT PROPERLY REFLECTED ON THE
13:46:31 AGENDA.
13:46:32 AS A RESULT, WE ARE ASKING RESPECTFULLY FOR A CONTINUANCE OF
13:46:37 ITEM NUMBER 4.
13:46:38 AND I BELIEVE THE CLERK STATED THAT THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE
13:46:42 IS APRIL 7th.
13:46:44 >> MOVE TO CONTINUES TO APRIL 7th.
13:46:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED TO CONTINUE.
13:46:52 >> IT WILL BE ON FIRST READING.
13:46:54 >> FIRST READING.
13:46:56 OKAY.
13:46:56 >> SECOND.
13:46:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE TIME FOR IT UNDER FIRST READING
13:46:59 CONSIDERATION?
13:47:03 WAIT, I'M CURIOUS.
13:47:04 IF IT'S A COMMITTEE REPORT, IS THAT AN ORDINANCE BEING
13:47:07 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION?
13:47:08 DOES IT NEED TO BE A SPECIFIC TIME?
13:47:14 A QUASI --
13:47:16 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: 9 A.M.
13:47:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 9 A.M.
13:47:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, MR -- SECOND BY MR.
13:47:24 MIRANDA.
13:47:24 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:47:26 ANY OPPOSED?
13:47:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN -- JUST FOR THE BASIS
13:47:33 OF NO CONFUSION, APRIL 7th AT 9 A.M.
13:47:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: APRIL 7th.
13:47:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SOMETIME AFTER 9 A.M.
13:47:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMETIME AFTER 9 A.M.
13:47:43 ANYTHING ELSE, MS. PETTIS-MACKLE?
13:47:47 >> NOTHING ELSE.
13:47:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK YOU ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
13:47:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
13:47:54 PUBLIC SAFETY, ITEMS 5 THROUGH 11.
13:47:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL MOVE ITEMS 5 THROUGH 11.
13:48:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
13:48:01 ROLL CALL.
13:48:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
13:48:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
13:48:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
13:48:06 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
13:48:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
13:48:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
13:48:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
13:48:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, PARKS AND REC 12-13.
13:48:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 12 THROUGH
13:48:21 15.
13:48:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
13:48:23 ROLL CALL.
13:48:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
13:48:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
13:48:27 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
13:48:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
13:48:29 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
13:48:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
13:48:30 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
13:48:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, ITEM 16 THROUGH 25, SIR.
13:48:35 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE 16 THROUGH 25.
13:48:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
13:48:40 ROLL CALL.
13:48:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
13:48:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
13:48:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
13:48:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
13:48:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
13:48:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
13:48:50 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
13:48:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, ITEMS 26 EXCLUDING 2, BECAUSE
13:48:55 MR. CARLSON ASKED FOR THAT TO BE PULLED.
13:48:58 THAT'S 26 THROUGH -- EXCLUDING 28, SIR.
13:49:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
13:49:02 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ON 29?
13:49:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU SAID NOT 26.
13:49:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOT INCLUDING 28.
13:49:14 I'M SORRY, SIR?
13:49:16 I APOLOGIZE.
13:49:17 OKAY.
13:49:18 WE HAVE 26 ALREADY.
13:49:20 THAT WOULD BE 27, 28 BEING PULLED.
13:49:23 MR. CARLSON, A COMMENT?
13:49:26 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT 29?
13:49:30 WE ALLOCATED THIS MONEY IN CRA A LONG TIME AGO, AND TAMPA
13:49:33 UNION STATION HAS THE WINDOWS ARE FALLING APART, AND OTHER
13:49:39 THINGS ARE FALLING APART, AND DESPERATELY NEEDS PROTECTION
13:49:42 AND CARE.
13:49:44 IT'S GETTING RAIN DAMAGE AND OTHER KINDS OF DAMAGE.
13:49:46 AND SO I WOULD JUST THINK THE CHIEF OF STAFF -- THANK THE
13:49:51 CHIEF OF STAFF FOR HELPING TO MOVE THIS QUICKLY, AND FOR THE
13:49:55 SAKE OF OUR COMMUNITY, I WOULD ASK STAFF TO PLEASE HELP US
13:49:59 GET THIS IMPORTANT HISTORIC BUILDING REPAIRED AS QUICKLY AS
13:50:03 POSSIBLE.
13:50:03 THANK YOU.
13:50:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
13:50:06 I SEE MS. TRAVIS IS HERE, MS. VAN LOAN HERE.
13:50:10 DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT?
13:50:12 ALL RIGHT.
13:50:13 ARE YOU GOOD, SIR?
13:50:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
13:50:17 28 OUT.
13:50:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 26 THROUGH 27 AND THEN -- OH, I'M
13:50:36 SORRY.
13:50:37 MAYBE I WANT TO MOVE IT AGAIN.
13:50:38 27 AND THEN 29 THROUGH 32 OMITTING 28.
13:50:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
13:50:44 A SECOND?
13:50:45 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
13:50:46 ROLL CALL.
13:50:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
13:50:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
13:50:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
13:50:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
13:50:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
13:50:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
13:50:55 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
13:50:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MR. CARLSON, AGAIN ITEMS 33
13:51:01 THROUGH 49.
13:51:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE WE GOING TO VOTE ON 28?
13:51:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HE PULLED 28.
13:51:10 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO VOTE NO ON THAT.
13:51:15 I THINK IT'S OVERREACHING FOR ONE CONSULTING FIRM TO HAVE SO
13:51:19 MUCH INFLUENCE OVER THE CITY THEY ARE GOING TO -- BE IN
13:51:23 EVERY PART OF THE CITY ON A REGULAR BASIS.
13:51:25 THERE'S NO SPECIFIC DEFINITION AS TO HOW MUCH TIME, AND IT'S
13:51:28 GREAT TO HAVE OUTSIDE ADVICE, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO FOLLOW
13:51:33 ANY ONE PARTICULAR MODEL.
13:51:36 THE BEST CITIES IN THE WORLD DON'T JUST COPY ONE CITY.
13:51:39 THEY GET THE BEST IDEAS FROM AROUND THE WORLD AND THEY
13:51:41 INCORPORATE IT.
13:51:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IN THAT CASE, MR. CARLSON, I DIDN'T KNOW
13:51:49 THAT WAS GOING TO PRECLUDE THE WHOLE CITY FROM CONSULTING.
13:51:53 MAYBE YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT MAYBE HAVING THAT DISCUSSED,
13:51:57 PULLED FOR DISCUSSION IF THAT'S THE CASE.
13:51:59 >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S UP TO YOU.
13:52:00 THERE ARE LIKE SIX DIFFERENT --
13:52:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FIRST OF ALL, NO CHARGE TO THE CITY.
13:52:04 YOU CAN READ IT.
13:52:05 YOU CAN ACCEPT IT OR NOT.
13:52:06 IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING.
13:52:08 IT'S NOT ONLY THAT THEY DO TAMPA.
13:52:09 THEY ARE DOING LONDON, CHICAGO, DETROIT, NEWARK, LIMA, PERU.
13:52:15 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK IT'S GREAT TO GET CONSULTING ADVICE
13:52:20 BUT THEY ARE VERY EMBEDDED IN THE CITY AND I THINK IT'S TOO
13:52:22 MUCH INFLUENCE FOR ONE ORGANIZATION, THAT'S ALL.
13:52:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT?
13:52:30 >> NICOLE TRAVIS FOR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
13:52:35 WHEN I STARTED IN JANUARY, THE APPLICATION HAD ALREADY BEEN
13:52:40 STARTED FOR BLOOMBERG AND ASSOCIATES TO CONSIDER TAMPA AS
13:52:43 ONE OF THE CITIES THAT THEY TAKE ON.
13:52:47 AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA STATED THEY HAVE DONE WORK IN A LOT OF
13:52:51 OTHER CITIES.
13:52:51 THEY PRODUCE OVER 4,000 CONSULTING HOURS SPECIFIC TO THE
13:52:56 PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES THAT THE CITY NEEDS.
13:53:00 THEY LOOK AT THE CRA PLAN.
13:53:02 THEY LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
13:53:05 HOW CAN THEY HELP US STRATEGIZE?
13:53:08 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CONSULTANTS THAT ARE NATIONALLY
13:53:09 RECOGNIZED ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
13:53:11 SOME OF WHICH THAT I HAVE HEARD SPEAK AT NUMEROUS
13:53:15 CONFERENCES AND THEY GIVE US BEST PRACTICES AND ADVICE
13:53:18 SPECIFIC TO THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE WORKING ON.
13:53:19 SO A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP SINCE THE TIME THAT
13:53:23 I HAVE BEEN HERE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED WITH
13:53:25 TRANSPORTATION, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION,
13:53:30 DISPOSITION, AND ALSO HOW DO WE TAKE SPECIFIC INITIATIVES
13:53:34 FOR THE EAST TAMPA CRA AREA, HOW DO WE GET SOME MOMENTUM
13:53:38 GOING IN THERE.
13:53:39 AND SO I HAD MORE MEETINGS THAN I CAN COUNT RIGHT NOW WITH
13:53:43 BLOOMBERG, REALLY TRYING TO IDENTIFY SCOPE, AND TO THE
13:53:48 POINT, IT'S UP TO THE PLEASURE OF THIS COUNCIL IF IT COMES
13:53:52 BACK FOR ANY POLICY DECISIONS BEFORE YOU, BUT THIS IS AN
13:53:54 OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE STAFF THAT IS BUSY ON A DAY-TO-DAY TO
13:53:58 TAKE ON SOME OF THESE SPECIAL PROJECTS AND FOCUS SPECIFIC ON
13:54:02 NARRATIVES AND PROJECTS THAT ARE DEAR TO THE CITY.
13:54:05 SO I WOULD REQUEST YOUR INDULGENCE.
13:54:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND AGAIN THERE'S NO COST TO THE CITY.
13:54:12 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S CORRECT.
13:54:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO I WILL LET YOU FIELD A COUPLE OF MR.
13:54:18 CARLSON'S QUESTIONS.
13:54:19 THEN WE'LL MOVE ON.
13:54:20 >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S LIKE WE JUST HIRED AN INTERNAL
13:54:24 CANDIDATE FOR POLICE CHIEF, AND WE HIRED A BUNCH OF -- WE
13:54:28 HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO EXPERIENCE, ABOUT 25 YEARS OF
13:54:31 EXPERIENCE IN WATER, AND THE WATER DEPARTMENT SEEMS TO
13:54:34 COMPLETELY DISMISS ALL OF IT.
13:54:37 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING ADVISING THE BEST COUNTRY IN
13:54:40 THE WORLD IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND NOBODY LISTENS TO IT.
13:54:43 WE TALK ABOUT INCLUSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND NOBODY
13:54:46 LISTENS TO THAT.
13:54:48 SO NOW WE ARE GOING TO BED AN OUTSIDE ORANGE.
13:54:52 I HAVE WORKED WITH OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS, I HAVE BEEN A
13:54:54 CONSULTANT, AND YOU BRING AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THIS, SO
13:54:56 EMBEDDED INTO YOUR ORGANIZATION AND YOU ARE GOING TO GET
13:54:59 BIAS EVERY KIND OF CONSULTING GROUP A HAS THAT AND IT'S ONE
13:55:03 POINT OF VIEW.
13:55:04 IT WORRIES ME BECAUSE THE CONSULTANTS ALWAYS -- BLOOMBERG IS
13:55:08 A GREAT BRAND, AND I'M SURE THEY HAVE FANTASTIC CONSULTANTS,
13:55:11 BUT THE GUY WHO IS THE EXPERT ON COMPETITIVE COUNTRIES,
13:55:18 MICHAEL PORTER, GOOGLE HIS NAME IN THAT TITLE AND YOU WILL
13:55:21 SEE THE CONTROVERSIES AND THE COUNTRIES, AND MY CONCERN IS
13:55:25 THAT THEY ARE SO EMBEDDED AND THERE'S NO DIVERSITY OF
13:55:29 THOUGHT ALREADY IN THE ADMINISTRATION SEEMS NOT TO BE
13:55:32 LISTENING TO ANY INTERNAL IDEAS, AND THEN THE THIRD THING
13:55:35 YOU JUST MENTIONED CRA, AND I REALLY OBJECT TO THAT.
13:55:38 WE HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR THREE YEARS TO HAVE CRA STAFF
13:55:40 ORGANIZE THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION JUST TO FIND OUT
13:55:43 WHAT OUR BOARD MEMBERS THINK, AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO
13:55:46 ORGANIZE THAT.
13:55:46 SO WHY HAVE A CONSULTANT COME IN AND TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO
13:55:50 DO WHEN WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED TO OUR OWN BOARD MEMBERS?
13:55:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU THINK IT NEEDS MORE DISCUSSION
13:55:56 BEFORE WE LOOK AT THIS?
13:56:00 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M SURE THIS WILL PASS BECAUSE BLOOMBERG
13:56:03 IS A GREAT BRAND BUT I HAVE BEEN AROUND CITIES AND THIS IS
13:56:06 JUST TOO MUCH INFLUENCE.
13:56:08 I AM GOING TO VOTE NO.
13:56:09 IF IT'S 5-1 THAT'S FINE.
13:56:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT I ASK, SINCE YOU ARE ADAMANT AND YOU
13:56:14 HAVE GOT OTHER CONCERNS --
13:56:16 >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS.
13:56:17 I AM GOING TO VOTE NO.
13:56:18 I DON'T NEED ANY MORE INFORMATION.
13:56:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GOING TO VOTE ON RESOLUTION 28, AND
13:56:25 SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
13:56:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
13:56:27 SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
13:56:29 ROLL CALL.
13:56:30 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
13:56:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
13:56:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
13:56:33 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
13:56:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
13:56:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO VOTE YES.
13:56:40 I AM GOING TO LEAN ON MRS. TRAVIS FOR THIS.
13:56:43 I DON'T HAVE CONCERNS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT CRA,
13:56:46 ESPECIALLY EAST TAMPA.
13:56:47 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I APPRECIATE THE VOTE OF SUPPORT TO MOVE
13:56:53 FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT.
13:56:55 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
13:56:57 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
13:56:58 I'M SORRY.
13:56:59 AND SO JUST A POINT WITH THE CRA, WE HAVE TAKEN THE
13:57:03 REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
13:57:05 THEY ARE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS OR CHANGING ANYTHING THAT
13:57:08 HAPPENED, STRICTLY GIVING US STRATEGIES ON HOW WE CAN GET
13:57:11 MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT JUMP STARTED IN THE AREA.
13:57:16 THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE
13:57:18 ARE FOLLOWING THROUGH AND DOUBLING DOWN WITH RESOURCES DOING
13:57:21 THIS.
13:57:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
13:57:24 ALL RIGHT.
13:57:28 MOVING RIGHT ALONG, MR. CARLSON, 33.
13:57:37 >> 3D TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
13:57:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM 33 AND 34.
13:57:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
13:57:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
13:57:47 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
13:57:48 ROLL CALL.
13:57:49 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
13:57:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
13:57:55 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
13:57:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
13:57:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
13:57:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
13:57:59 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
13:58:00 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 46 FOR A SEPARATE
13:58:04 VOTE.
13:58:04 I DON'T NEED STAFF.
13:58:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE 46, AND I HAVE AN ASK ABOUT 47.
13:58:12 IS SOMEONE PULLING THAT?
13:58:14 >> NO, 46.
13:58:15 >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 35 THROUGH 45, AND THEN 47 THROUGH
13:58:20 49.
13:58:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
13:58:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
13:58:24 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:58:27 ROLL CALL?
13:58:30 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I CAN DISCUSS THIS WITH THE CLERK.
13:58:32 IN THE PAST, BY VOICE VOTE, IS THAT CORRECT?
13:58:36 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
13:58:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ONLY THING FROM THIS POINT FORWARD IN
13:58:39 ORDER TO SAVE TIME, WE CAN DO VOICE VOTES, IF COUNCIL STILL
13:58:43 WANTS TO AND THE CHAIR WANTS TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE, YOU
13:58:45 CAN.
13:58:46 WE ARE NOT SET UP FOR VOTE AND RECORD SO YOU WILL HAVE TO DO
13:58:50 A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR THAT.
13:58:52 BUT THE ONLY TIME YOU WILL HAVE TO DO FOR THESE SORT OF
13:58:54 THINGS ON THE CONSENT DOCKET, A ROLL CALL VOTE, IS IF
13:58:58 SOMEBODY IS APPEARING, ONE OF YOU MEMBERS ARE APPEARING
13:59:02 VIRTUALLY, THEN WE HAVE TO GO TO ROLL CALL.
13:59:04 BUT OTHER THAN THAT TO SAVE TIME I AM DONE TALKING.
13:59:07 YOU CAN DO A VOICE VOTE.
13:59:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CONTINUE.
13:59:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
13:59:12 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
13:59:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
13:59:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
13:59:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
13:59:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
13:59:17 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
13:59:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, TAKE UP 46 NOW, SIR?
13:59:22 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ALL KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT -- IT'S NOT
13:59:26 INCLUSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, NOT THE KIND OF ECONOMIC
13:59:29 DEVELOPMENT WE SHOULD BE DOING, SO I AM GOING TO JUST VOTE
13:59:33 NO.
13:59:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEM 46.
13:59:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
13:59:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
13:59:39 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:59:40 ANY OPPOSED?
13:59:41 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
13:59:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
13:59:46 MR. VIERA.
13:59:48 >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE 50 THROUGH 58.
13:59:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
13:59:53 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:59:54 ANY OPPOSED?
13:59:55 MOTION GRANTED.
13:59:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL HEARINGS ARE ALREADY OPEN.
14:00:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL HEARINGS ARE ALREADY OPEN.
14:00:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO SCHEDULE THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO
14:00:10 MAY 5th, THE 2022 AT 1:30 P.M.
14:00:13 >> SECOND.
14:00:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
14:00:19 ROLL CALL, MR. SHELBY?
14:00:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
14:00:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR?
14:00:23 ANY OPPOSED?
14:00:24 MOTION GRANTED.
14:00:27 ALL RIGHT.
14:00:28 THE HEARINGS ARE NOW OPEN, CORRECT?
14:00:30 ALL RIGHT.
14:00:30 NUMBER 60.
14:00:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 60 AND 61, 62 AND 637 ARE ALL
14:00:38 NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
14:00:40 AND JUST A REMINDER 62 IS A SUBSTITUTE BUT WE'LL GET TO
14:00:44 THAT.
14:00:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
14:00:47 >>RON VILA: HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
14:00:56 ITEM 60.
14:00:57 AT FIRST READING I DID A COMPLETE PRESENTATION THERE.
14:01:00 WERE NO COMMENTS THAT COUNCIL HAD AT THAT TIME.
14:01:03 THE MOTION WAS 7-0 TO MOVE FORWARD.
14:01:06 I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THIS AFTERNOON.
14:01:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
14:01:14 ALL RIGHT.
14:01:15 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY TO BE SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
14:01:17 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
14:01:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON
14:01:22 THIS ITEM?
14:01:40 NOBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
14:01:41 >> IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME, MR. CHAIR.
14:01:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE, MOVE TO CLOSE.
14:01:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27, MOVE AN
14:01:57 ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READ BEING ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
14:01:59 APPROVING A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION
14:02:02 APPLICATION RELATED TO THE RESTORATION, RENOVATION, OR
14:02:07 REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES OWNED BY SENECA
14:02:10 VENTURES, LLC LOCATED AT 1619 EAST 8th AVENUE, TAMPA,
14:02:15 FLORIDA IN THE YBOR HISTORIC DISTRICT, BASED UPON CERTAIN
14:02:19 FINDINGS, PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF
14:02:23 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING
14:02:25 FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING AN
14:02:28 EFFECTIVE DATE.
14:02:28 >> SECOND.
14:02:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
14:02:33 ROLL CALL.
14:02:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:02:36 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:02:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:02:39 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:02:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:02:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:02:41 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
14:02:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 61.
14:02:46 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
14:02:53 THIS IS SECOND READING ON AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REPEAL THE
14:02:56 NOISE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED ON JANUARY
14:03:00 13th OF THIS YEAR.
14:03:02 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER.
14:03:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TIE VOLT?
14:03:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
14:03:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A PRESENTATION, THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC
14:03:25 COMMENT?
14:03:26 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: JUST AN ORDINANCE REPEALING THE
14:03:28 PRIOR ORDINANCE.
14:03:29 THANK YOU.
14:03:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN TAKE COMMENT.
14:03:33 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
14:03:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO DEPUTY CLERK.
14:03:40 >>THE CLERK: MR. GEORGE GRAPH AS WELL AS KAREN COX ON LINE.
14:03:48 I NEED YOU TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND AUDIO.
14:03:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MA'AM, CAN YOU HEAR US?
14:04:03 >> YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.
14:04:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME AND BEGIN.
14:04:05 >> MY NAME IS KAREN COX, AND I REPRESENT THE TOWERS OF
14:04:11 CHANNELSIDE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION, AND WITH RESPECT TO
14:04:18 ITEM NUMBER 61, THE ORDINANCE THAT SPEAKS TO THE NEW AMENDED
14:04:26 ORDINANCE, I HAVE GOT SOME REVERB HERE, I'M SORRY.
14:04:34 BUT I WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT THE AMENDED ORDINANCE RESULTED
14:04:40 FROM A FEW YEARS OF [~DISTORTION~] WITH INPUT FROM THE
14:04:51 CITIZENS, AND -- I'M SORRY, I HAVE GOT REVERB GOING ON.
14:05:01 SO I AM JUST GOING TO WAIT BECAUSE THE REVERB IS BOTHERING.
14:05:07 THE OPPOSITION TO THE -- EFFECTIVELY UNENFORCEABLE ORDINANCE
14:05:20 DIDN'T RAISE ANYTHING NEW THAT WASN'T ALREADY CONSIDERED.
14:05:25 REPEALING THE ORDINANCE NOW IS GOING TO CAUSE THE CITY TO
14:05:32 CONTINUE TO SUFFER THE NOISE THAT HAS BEEN PLAGUING THE CITY
14:05:36 FOR YEARS.
14:05:42 PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE APPEAL TO THE AMENDED NOISE ORDINANCE,
14:05:45 AND LET THE ORDINANCE GO INTO EFFECT.
14:05:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM?
14:05:53 >> NO.
14:05:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
14:05:55 NEXT SPEAKER.
14:05:56 >>THE CLERK: THE OTHER SPEAKER IS MR. GEORGE GRANT.
14:06:02 HOWEVER, HE HAS NOT TURNED ON HIS VIDEO NOR AUDIO.
14:06:07 I HAVE THREE OTHER PEOPLE REGISTERED.
14:06:09 HOWEVER, THEY HAVE NOT LOGGED ON.
14:06:10 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
14:06:15 >>THE CLERK: HAS NOT TURNED ON THEIR AUDIO.
14:06:18 >> THIS IS GEORGE GRASS.
14:06:22 ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME?
14:06:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, WE CAN! YES, SIR, WE CAN.
14:06:25 >> I'M HAVING ISSUES CONNECTING MY VIDEO.
14:06:27 IS IT OKAY IF MY MAKE MY COMMENTS?
14:06:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S NOT QUASI, SO WE DON'T NEED THE
14:06:34 VIDEO.
14:06:35 YOU CAN CONTINUE WITHOUT THE VIDEO, SIR.
14:06:38 >> GOOD, THANK YOU.
14:06:40 I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF TAMPA SINCE 205.
14:06:43 MY WIFE AND I, AND WE BECAME RESIDENTS OF THE CHANNELSIDE
14:06:47 DISTRICT IN 2019, I AM AN OWNER IN THE TOWERS OF
14:06:52 CHANNELSIDE.
14:06:53 I LIVE ON THE 20th FLOOR.
14:06:55 AND SINCE MY RESIDENCE IN 2019, DIFFERENT BUSINESS
14:07:02 ESTABLISHMENTS IN THIS AREA, THERE HAS BEEN A CONSTANT
14:07:05 DISRUPTION OF PEACE AND QUIET WHILE STAYING IN MY RESIDENCE.
14:07:17 ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS I HAVE TO CALL THE NONEMERGENCY TAMPA
14:07:22 POLICE HOTLINE DUE TO EXTREME LEVELS OF BASS, RATTLING THE
14:07:28 WALLS OF MY CONDO.
14:07:30 AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO EXERCISE THAT THIS IS THE 20 FLOORS,
14:07:34 AND THIS GOES ON ALL THE WAY UNTIL 2:30 IN THE MORNING.
14:07:38 AND THIS MAY HAPPEN DURING THE WEEKDAY, AND ESPECIALLY THE
14:07:43 MORE PROMINENT ON THE WEEKENDS.
14:07:46 SO WHEN YOU ARE A CITIZEN AND YOU ARE GIVEN THE OPTION TO
14:07:52 CALL A NONEMERGENT HOTLINE FOR A NOISE COMPLAINT, THERE IS
14:07:56 NO, I WOULD SAY, URGENT PRIORITY ON THIS SIDE OF THE TAMPA
14:08:01 POLICE TO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THIS.
14:08:03 SO WHEN YOU ARE CALLING AT 10:30, 11:00 AT NIGHT AND YOU ARE
14:08:06 STILL TRYING TO GET SLEEP, AND BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GET TO
14:08:10 YOUR JOB THE NEXT DAY, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM A
14:08:14 HEALTH CARE PROVIDER WITHIN THE TAMPA AREA, AND I HAVE TO
14:08:19 HANDLE COMPLEX DECISIONS, I'M SURE AS MANY OF YOU GUYS DO,
14:08:25 WOMEN AS WELL, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT HAVING ADEQUATE SLEEP IS
14:08:29 IMPORTANT FOR OUR WELL-BEING, AND SO HAVING TO CONSTANTLY
14:08:34 DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE IS VERY CHALLENGING IN SEVERAL REGARDS
14:08:39 WHEN IT COMES TO OVERALL WELLNESS, RELATIONSHIP WELLNESS,
14:08:44 THINGS THAT INTERFERE WITH THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
14:08:48 SO IN THE LAST WEEK, I HAVE HAD TO CALL THE TAMPA POLICE
14:08:53 FIVE TIMES.
14:08:55 MOST OF THESE CALLS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AFTER 10 P.M. ASKING
14:08:58 THE SAME THING, THAT HAVING ESTABLISHMENT BE RESPECTFUL OF
14:09:05 THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWERS OF CHANNELSIDE.
14:09:08 SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT PRIOR AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE GONE
14:09:13 FORTH, THAT THERE BE CONSIDERATION WITH THE CHANNELSIDE
14:09:16 DISTRICT IS NOT THE SAME AS YBOR, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME
14:09:24 FORM OF NOISE MITIGATION TO HELP US FIND SOME EQUITABLE WAYS
14:09:31 AS FAR AS LIVING IN HARMONY WHERE BUSINESSES CAN THRIVE BUT
14:09:35 ALSO THAT RESIDENTS CAN MAINTAIN A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE.
14:09:38 I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
14:09:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
14:09:42 ANYBODY ELSE REGISTERED?
14:09:44 >>THE CLERK: THERE WERE THREE OTHER PEOPLE REGISTERED.
14:09:47 HOWEVER, THEY ARE NOT ONLINE.
14:09:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
14:09:50 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
14:09:53 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
14:09:58 THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A SECOND CHANCE.
14:10:00 SORRY ABOUT THIS MORNING.
14:10:02 MY NAME IS DR. STEPHEN SCHWARTZ, A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF
14:10:06 CHANNEL DISTRICT.
14:10:07 I AM CURRENTLY VICE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION BOARD OF
14:10:12 DIRECTORS FOR THE TOWERS OF CHANNELSIDE.
14:10:14 I HAVE SOME COMMENTS OF MY OWN BUT I PROMISED TO READ A
14:10:18 LETTER OF MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBER WHO MEANT TO BE HERE BUT
14:10:22 COULDN'T.
14:10:23 HAD TO BE OUT OF TOWN.
14:10:25 SO I AM GOING TO DO BOTH AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND SHOULD
14:10:27 BE ABLE TO DO IT WELL WITHIN TIME.
14:10:31 MICHAEL LEEDS.
14:10:32 MY NAME IS MICHAEL LEEDS, A RESIDENT OF THE TOWERS OF
14:10:35 CHANNELSIDE, AND FORMER CHANNELSIDE CAC BOARD MEMBER.
14:10:38 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING MY NEIGHBOR AND FELLOW BOARD MEMBER
14:10:42 STEPHEN SCHWARTZ TO READ MY TESTIMONY AS I HAVE A MEETING
14:10:45 OUT OF TOWN AND UNABLE TO ATTEND THE HEARING.
14:10:48 I WANT TO SHOW MY SUPPORT FOR THE PREVIOUS APPROVED
14:10:51 ORDINANCE 2022-18 WHICH WAS TO MODIFY THE CITY'S NOISE
14:10:56 ORDINANCE, AND MOVE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM THE SPECIAL
14:10:59 EXCEPTION AREAS.
14:11:02 I AM ASKING COUNCIL TO NOT SUPPORT THE ABOVE MEASURE WHICH
14:11:06 WOULD REPEAL SAID ORDINANCE.
14:11:08 CHANNEL DISTRICT HAS BECOME A THRIVING RESIDENTIAL SUBMARKET
14:11:12 IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND IT'S CRITICAL THE CITY OF TAMPA
14:11:16 BALANCE RESIDENTS NEEDS ANDS COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES.
14:11:18 MANY CITIES ACROSS THE STATE IN THE METRO AREA INCLUDING
14:11:22 CLEARWATER, ST. PETE, AND SARASOTA, HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THIS
14:11:24 OBJECTIVE MANAGING NOISE LEVELS IN THRIVING DOWNTOWN
14:11:28 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE ALLOWING BUSINESSES TO
14:11:31 OPERATE REASONABLE HOURS OF OPERATION WHEN NOISE IMPACT IS A
14:11:34 CONCERN.
14:11:35 PLEASE TAKE RESPONSIBLE ACTION AND ALLOWING THE PREVIOUSLY
14:11:40 APPROVED ORDINANCE 22-18 BE APPROVED.
14:11:44 THANK YOU, MICHAEL J. LEEDS.
14:11:49 WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS IN 2020 TO THE POLICE, THE
14:11:55 COUNCIL, AND OTHERS TO BE ADDRESS SUBSTANTIAL AND PERSISTENT
14:12:00 NOISE APPROXIMATE PLAGUING THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
14:12:02 NOISE ORDINANCE APPLICABLE TO THE CHANNEL DISTRICT HAS BEEN
14:12:04 UNENFORCEABLE DESPITE HUNDREDS OF CALLS TO POLICE.
14:12:08 WE WERE RELIEVED AND EXCITED BY THE HOPE THAT CAME OCTOBER
14:12:11 7th OF 2021 KNOLOGY FIRST READING OF THE NEW ORDINANCE
14:12:15 INCLUDING A SECTION ADDRESSING OUTSIDE AMPLIFIED SOUND.
14:12:18 NEW ORDINANCE WAS SAID TO BE TAKE EFFECT APRIL 2022.
14:12:22 WE ARE NOW SOMEWHAT CRUSHED BY THE MOVE TO REPEAL THAT NEW
14:12:26 ORDINANCE BEFORE IT SAW LIGHT OF DAY.
14:12:31 THE ORDINANCE WAS RUSHED AND NEEDED MORE TIME, HOWEVER FOR
14:12:33 THE RESIDENTS OF CHANNEL DISTRICT, THIS WILL EXTEND OUR
14:12:36 MISERY, WHICH HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR TWO YEARS WITHOUT RELIEF.
14:12:40 WE OPPOSE THE MOVE WHICH IS AKIN TO THROWING OUT THE BABY
14:12:44 WITH THE BATH WATER.
14:12:46 THE DELAY WILL FURTHER PUT OFF ACTIONS OF OUTDOOR NOISE
14:12:51 CONTROL AND THE FIVE MINUTE WARNING SO WELL NEEDED IN THE
14:12:56 CHANNEL DISTRICT.
14:12:56 I FEEL IT FEELS PREJUDICIAL AGAINST THE RESIDENTS OF THE
14:13:00 CHANNEL DISTRICT, AND FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN SEEKING
14:13:04 THAT FOR SO LONG.
14:13:06 THANK YOU.
14:13:06 [BELL SOUNDS]
14:13:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NEXT SPEAKER.
14:13:08 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
14:13:16 MY NAME IS LARRY KINECK, AN OWNER RESIDENT IN THE TOWERS OF
14:13:25 CHANNELSIDE, THE FIRST PERSON TO HAVE MOVED INTO THE
14:13:27 CHANNELSIDE, A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, AND IT REMAINED THAT
14:13:31 WAY UNTIL AJA MOVED IN AND TODAY WE ARE A MIXED COMMUNITY
14:13:41 BUT WITH A MUCH DIFFERENT BAR, A GAMING BAR, NOT A
14:13:46 NIGHTCLUB.
14:13:48 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR OUR CITY, AND
14:13:55 FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THIS CITY COUNCIL.
14:13:59 I RECOGNIZE THAT WE WILL NOT ALWAYS AGREE, BUT I WILL ALWAYS
14:14:05 RESPECT THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE, EVEN IF I DON'T AGREE WITH
14:14:10 THEM.
14:14:11 I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, WE ARE NOT AGAINST ALL BARS AND THE
14:14:17 NOISE THEY MAKE.
14:14:21 IN THIS CASE, WE ARE AGAINST ONE BAR AND THE NOISE IT MAKES
14:14:28 THERE ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE 04-OH 5 TIER.
14:14:33 I LIVE IN THE 05 TIER, 2205, AS I SAID, AND I FELT IT LAST
14:14:39 NIGHT.
14:14:41 THE OPERATING MODEL OF THIS BAR IS BETWEEN 10 AND -- 10 P.M.
14:14:46 AND 2 A.M.
14:14:48 WE HEAR IT EVERY NIGHT.
14:14:50 IT MUST STOP.
14:14:52 AND WE NEED YOUR HELP TO STOP IT.
14:14:55 WHAT IS THAT NOISE?
14:14:57 WELL, IT CONSISTS OF BOMBASTIC MUSIC, SCREAMING, HOLLERING,
14:15:03 CURSING, FIGHTING, ALL REVERBERATING OFF OF THE STRUCTURES
14:15:08 ACROSS THE STREET THAT WEREN'T THERE WHEN AJA WAS THERE.
14:15:15 IT IS ALSO, WHAT THE OTHER GENTLE EARLIER SAID, THIS
14:15:18 CONSTANT BEAT WITH DEEP WOOFER SOUNDS THAT REVERBERATE
14:15:26 THROUGH THE REBAR THROUGHOUT THE 04-05 TIER.
14:15:33 THAT'S WHERE YOU COME IN.
14:15:34 WE NEED LIMITS.
14:15:35 LIMITS ON THE TIME THAT THIS BAR CAN CREATE THIS NOISE.
14:15:42 I'M TRUSTING THAT YOU WILL AGREE AND SEE THAT THIS NOISE IS
14:15:48 NOT REASONABLE OR ACCEPTABLE IN THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
14:15:53 BOTTOM LINE, THE OWNER OF THAT BAR KNEW WHAT HE WAS MOVING
14:15:59 INTO, A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, WHEN HE MOVED IN THERE, AND
14:16:02 HE MUST RESPECT THOSE OF US WHO LIVE THERE.
14:16:06 THANK YOU.
14:16:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
14:16:10 NEXT SPEAKER.
14:16:10 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. ERNEST MUELLER.
14:16:21 I'M HERE TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO GO AHEAD AND PASS THIS
14:16:24 SECOND READING THAT WOULD REPEAL THOSE RECENT CHANGES TO THE
14:16:29 CITY'S NOISE ORDINANCE.
14:16:31 I AGREE THERE NEEDS TO BE A NEW NOISE ORDINANCE.
14:16:35 BUT THE CITY NEEDS A NOISE ORDINANCE THAT IS BALANCING THE
14:16:40 EXPECTATIONS, REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS OF THE RESIDENTS AND
14:16:43 THEIR NEED FOR QUIET, AND THE POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT
14:16:48 THE BAR AND RESTAURANT INDUSTRY HAS ON THIS CITY.
14:16:52 WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS AN OLD NOISE ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE
14:16:57 TRYING TO MATCH.
14:16:58 IT'S LIKE PATCHING AN OLD WORN OUT TIRE.
14:17:01 SO I AM URGING YOU TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS AND LET'S START
14:17:04 OVER.
14:17:04 IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE CHANNELSIDE AS EXPECT IS ALSO PART
14:17:09 AND PARCEL OF THIS.
14:17:11 HOWEVER, THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECT THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS GOING
14:17:17 TO HAVE, THE BIG ONE IS THE TAKING AWAY OF THAT WARNING.
14:17:21 AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, MY EXPERIENCE IN CODE ENFORCEMENT,
14:17:25 WARNINGS HAVE AN 85% COMPLIANCE RATE.
14:17:29 THAT MEANS 85 TIMES OUT OF 100, THEY ARE GOING TO WORK.
14:17:33 AND THE NOISE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS ENFORCED RIGHT NOW BY THE
14:17:38 POLICE OFFICERS, AND THE POLICE OFFICER DATA SUPPORTS THIS,
14:17:43 IS THAT THAT COMPLIANCE RATE IS MUCH MORE THAN 85%.
14:17:51 AN EFFECTIVE ENFORCEMENT TOOL THAT'S GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL
14:17:54 TO THE EFFECTIVE ENFORCEMENT OF ANY NOISE ORDINANCE.
14:17:57 SO AGAIN I AM COMING BACK BEFORE YOU AND SAYING, YES, WE
14:18:00 NEED ORDINANCE CHANGES.
14:18:03 I BELIEVE THE INDUSTRY, IS GALVANIZED.
14:18:08 I KNOW WHAT MY CLIENT HAS AND WANTS TO MAKE CHANGES, WANTS
14:18:11 TO MAKE EFFECTIVE CHANGES THAT ARE GOING TO BE FAIR FOR
14:18:14 EVERYBODY.
14:18:14 SO I URGE YOU TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS REPEAL AND
14:18:17 LET'S START OVER WITH A 21st CENTURY ORDINANCE.
14:18:22 THANK YOU.
14:18:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NEXT SPEAKER.
14:18:30 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SOHO BUSINESS
14:18:36 ALLIANCE WHICH REPRESENTS ABOUT 45 DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, 30
14:18:41 OF WHICH ARE RESTAURANTS, AND WHEN WE FIRST DEVELOPED THE
14:18:46 CODE FOR THE NOISE ORDINANCE, YOU MAY RECALL THAT THE
14:18:49 WARNING WAS PUT IN THERE TO STOP HARASSMENT AND FOR
14:18:56 INCIDENTAL CALLS THAT MAY END UP WITH CITATIONS.
14:19:00 AND AS MR. MUELLER HAS ALREADY INDICATED, THE COMPLIANCE
14:19:04 RATE IS 85% AND MAY EVEN BE HIGHER THAN THAT.
14:19:08 THERE ARE ISSUES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CONSIDERED WITH THIS NEW
14:19:10 ORDINANCE.
14:19:11 THEY INCLUDE ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS WHICH AFFECT NOISE, AND
14:19:14 MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE STADIUM NOISE, IT BOUNCES
14:19:18 OFF THE CLOUDS AND IS HEARD ALL THE WAY INTO SOUTH TAMPA.
14:19:21 UNDER THE NEW CODE, THIS WOULD BECOME A VIOLATION.
14:19:24 AND IT'S NOT JUST THE STADIUM.
14:19:27 YOU HAVE NOISES TRANSMITTED ACROSS WATER.
14:19:30 WE HAVE ISSUES REGARDING HARBOR ISLAND AND MUSIC OUT THERE
14:19:33 AND DOWNTOWN.
14:19:34 IT BOUNCES ALONG DOWN THE BAY AND IS HEARD AS FAR SOUTH AS
14:19:39 BALLAST POINT.
14:19:40 SO ANYWAY, WE ARE URGING YOU TO CONTINUES WITH YOUR REPEAL
14:19:43 OF THIS ORDINANCE, OR AT THE VERY LEAST INSERT INTO IT A
14:19:48 WARNING PROVISIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY THERE.
14:19:51 THERE ARE PROTECTIVE MEASURES.
14:19:53 THEY ARE NOT ONEROUS.
14:19:55 THEY DO PROTECT BOTH THE HOMEOWNER AS WELL AS THE
14:19:57 BUSINESSES.
14:20:00 YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO START ISSUING TICKETS IMMEDIATELY OR
14:20:07 LEAVE IT UP TO THE OFFICER IN THE FIELD.
14:20:09 THE I-75TATION HAD A BUFFER IN IT WHICH WAS THE WARNING THAT
14:20:12 WAS BEING ISSUED AND THE COMPLIANCE THAT MOST OF THE TIME AS
14:20:15 ERNIE POINTED OUT 80 TO 95% OF THE TIME RESULTS IN AN
14:20:19 IMMEDIATE COMPLIANCE.
14:20:21 SO ANYONE WHO IS A VIOLATOR NEEDS THAT CHANCE AND WOULD
14:20:24 REQUEST THAT YOU INCLUDE THAT.
14:20:26 IF YOU GO FORWARD WITH THIS, OR IF YOU REPEAL THE ORDINANCE
14:20:29 AS IT IS.
14:20:31 THERE'S ALSO A NUMBER OF CITIZENS STANDING BY, WITH A
14:20:35 CITIZENS COMMITTEE MADE UP OF BUSINESS OWNERS AS WELL AS
14:20:37 RESIDENTS TO HELP ADJUST AND CRAFT NEW PROVISIONS FOR A
14:20:42 NOISE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU.
14:20:44 SO I WOULD ASK YOU FIRST, REPEAL THIS ORDINANCE AS IT IS.
14:20:49 AT THE VERY LEAST, AMEND IT, AMEND THE EXISTING ORDINANCE TO
14:20:53 INSERT THE WARNING PROVISIONS BACK INTO IT.
14:20:56 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
14:20:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
14:21:18 I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED TODAY.
14:21:22 IF THIS IS NOT APPROVED, YOU WILL HAVE NO ORDINANCE ON THE
14:21:25 BOOK, PERIOD, CORRECT?
14:21:27 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
14:21:29 NO, THAT IS NOT CORRECT.
14:21:31 THERE IS A NOISE ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS CONTAINED IN CHAPTER
14:21:34 14.
14:21:34 CITY CODE.
14:21:35 THE ORDINANCE THAT THIS ORDINANCE WAS REPEALED MADE FOUR
14:21:42 VERY DISTINCT AMENDMENTS TO THE EXISTING NOISE ORDINANCE.
14:21:45 SO ALL IT WOULD DO IS REPEAL THOSE AMENDMENTS OF THE
14:21:51 ORDINANCE AS IT EXISTS PRIOR TO THOSE AMENDMENTS WOULD STILL
14:21:56 STAND, UNLESS AND UNTIL OTHER AMENDMENTS ARE ADOPTED TO
14:21:59 CHANGE THOSE.
14:22:00 SO WE WOULD HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS.
14:22:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW WE STOPPED THE COMMUNITY
14:22:08 CONVERSATION BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION TO CONTINUE
14:22:13 IN APRIL WOULD COME BACK AND INSERT WHAT WE DO TO MAKE THE
14:22:17 ORDINANCE GO BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE BUSINESS
14:22:20 COMMUNITY, AND PUBLIC AT LARGE.
14:22:22 SO WE STOPPED IT AND WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT PROCESS?
14:22:29 AND PEOPLE STILL HAVE CONCERNS, DOWNTOWN AND CHANNELSIDE,
14:22:36 THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
14:22:37 SO NO MATTER WHAT WE DO TODAY, WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE OF
14:22:41 MAKING SURE EVERYONE -- WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY
14:22:45 HAPPY.
14:22:46 BUT WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE WE ARE NOT ENGAGED WITH THE
14:22:49 PEOPLE AND THE BUSINESSES, SO I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM I
14:22:54 AM REALLY HAVING WITH ALL OF THIS.
14:22:56 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WELL, MR. CHAIR, SO WHAT HAPPENED,
14:22:59 WE DID HAVE THE FIRST OF THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON
14:23:03 FEBRUARY 15th WHICH IS TWO DAYS BEFORE COUNCIL TOOK UP
14:23:07 THIS REPEALING ORDINANCE.
14:23:10 WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
14:23:12 IF COUNCIL IS GOING TO APPEAL THE NOISE ORDINANCE
14:23:14 AMENDMENTS, WHAT'S GOING TO REPLACE THEM?
14:23:16 WHAT'S THE NEW PROPOSAL, AND WHAT'S IN THE PROPOSAL?
14:23:19 STAFF DIDN'T HAVE ANY DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AS TO WHAT WAY
14:23:23 THEY WANTED TO GO, IF IT WASN'T WITH THESE SPECIFIC
14:23:25 AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, AND
14:23:28 SO THAT WAS THE CONCERN, WAS THAT WE DIDN'T V ANYTHING, ANY
14:23:33 RESPONSE FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADVICE FROM
14:23:36 CITY COUNCIL, WE REALLY WAR AT A LOSS AS TO HOW TO MOVE
14:23:39 FORWARD WITH GETTING PERMITS FROM AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS
14:23:44 SCHEDULED NOT TO EXIST ANYMORE.
14:23:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAVE YOU GUYS MET WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS TO
14:23:50 BE SEE WHAT DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO NOW?
14:23:53 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WELL, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH
14:23:59 INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS BUT OF COURSE WE NEED A MOTION
14:24:01 FROM COUNCIL AS A BODY, THAT'S WHERE WE TAKE DIRECTION.
14:24:04 AND I NOVEMBER I HAVE HAD PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS WITH
14:24:07 INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THERE REALLY WASN'T A
14:24:10 CONSENSUS AS TO HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.
14:24:12 SO WE REALLY WERE TRYING TO GET DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AS A
14:24:16 BODY.
14:24:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TELL ME HOW YOUR OFFICE NEEDS TO MOVE
14:24:23 FORWARD SO YOU DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FOR THE CITIZENS --
14:24:27 FOR THE RESIDENT AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS.
14:24:29 THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT, IS HOW YOUR OFFICE CAN MOVE, FOR
14:24:36 YOU TO GET THAT INFORMATION.
14:24:38 YOU ARE GOING TO ONE THAT NEEDS TO CRAFT TO MAKE SOME
14:24:41 CONCESSIONS TO SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS FOR THE CITIZENS AND
14:24:45 THE BUSINESS OWNERS.
14:24:46 THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT I WANT TO HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT.
14:24:49 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
14:24:53 OPPORTUNITY.
14:24:54 COUNCILMAN GUDES, FROM THE LEGAL OFFICE OF MY OFFICE, WE ARE
14:24:59 GOING TO CARRY FORTH WHATEVER DIRECTION COUNCIL PROVIDES.
14:25:02 SO I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT STAFF TO TELL YOU, WE WORKSHOPPED
14:25:08 THE ITEMS WITH YOU AND THE COUNCIL VOTED ON THOSE FOUR
14:25:11 ITEMS.
14:25:11 THAT WAS ALL A DIRECTION TO THEN GO TO THE COMMUNITY FROM
14:25:14 THE MEETING.
14:25:15 NOW THAT YOU ARE REPEALING THAT, WE ARE NOT SURE WHAT THE
14:25:18 DIRECTION IS.
14:25:19 SO WE NEED TO BE KNOW WHAT THE BOUNDARIES ARE.
14:25:23 YOU HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS IN CHANNELSIDE.
14:25:26 THAT WAS AN UNDISPUTED AREA OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO
14:25:32 CHANGE CHANNELSIDE TO PLAINLY AUDIBLE.
14:25:35 THERE WAS NO QUESTION BY ANYONE ABOUT THAT.
14:25:37 BUT IT IS WRAPPED UP IN THIS AMENDMENT --
14:25:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND THE LEGALESE.
14:25:45 THOSE POINTS WE TALKED ABOUT.
14:25:47 AND YOU HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THOSE POINTS.
14:25:52 SO THOSE POINTS TO BE CONCERNED --
14:25:55 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE NEED DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON WHICH
14:25:57 POINTS OR WHICH AMENDMENTS YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SO
14:26:02 WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT.
14:26:04 RIGHT NOW, WE ARE NOT SURE.
14:26:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE GO TO MR. CARLSON.
14:26:08 HE HAD HIS HAND UP.
14:26:09 THEN MR. VIERA AND MR. CITRO.
14:26:11 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A REMINDER, WE HAD STAFF A COUPLE
14:26:16 YEARS WORKING ON THE CHANGES, THE FOUR CHANGES, AND THEN WE
14:26:20 PASSED IT, AND AS MUCH AS I LIKE FORMER COUNCILMEMBER
14:26:29 DINGFELDER, IT SOUNDED LIKE HE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM
14:26:32 YBOR CITY.
14:26:32 HE SAID INSTEAD OF FIXING AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE, LET'S
14:26:38 CANCEL IT AND START OVER.
14:26:39 AND I OBJECTED TO THAT BECAUSE I THINK THE ORDINANCE, CALLED
14:26:45 THE ORDINANCE OF THE FOUR CHANGES THAT GOES INTO EFFECT IN
14:26:48 AUGUST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
14:26:51 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: JULY.
14:26:52 >>BILL CARLSON: SO WE PUT IT FAR OUT SO WE WOULD HAVE
14:26:55 PLENTY OF TIME, HAVE PUBLIC INPUT AND THEN WE CAN CHANGE IT
14:26:57 BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE THE STRUCTURE OR SOMETHING, IF WE
14:27:01 CANCELED THAT PART TODAY, THEN WE HAVE TO START OVER WITH A
14:27:04 WHOLE NEW PROCESS AND PROPOSAL SOMETHING COMPLETELY
14:27:07 DIFFERENT.
14:27:07 AND SO I AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST CANCELING THE FOUR
14:27:11 CHANGES, AGAIN, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S BETTER TO LISTEN TO THE
14:27:15 PUBLIC AND MODIFY IT.
14:27:17 ALSO, WE HAVE GIVEN STAFF THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO PASS
14:27:22 SOMETHING BY HAVING LEFT THE FOUR CHANGES IN PLACE, THAT
14:27:25 GIVES MORE REASON FOR THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE AND GIVE US
14:27:29 FEEDBACK, AND THEN WE CAN -- TRY TO EDIT WHATEVER -- [~AUDIO
14:27:37 DISTORTION~]
14:27:38 >> AND THEN MOVE FORWARD.
14:27:39 SO I AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS AGAIN BECAUSE I THINK
14:27:41 IT'S BETTER TO EDIT THE FOUR POINTS THAN TO GO BARK TO ZERO.
14:27:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK WHAT MR. DINGFELDER'S POINT WAS --
14:27:49 AND YOU ARE RIGHT, BECAUSE I HAD A QUESTION, THE BUSINESS
14:27:54 OWNERS LOOK AT IT AS IF WE GO AHEAD WITH THE ORIGINAL AND
14:27:58 HAVE THAT TIME OUT, THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THEIR
14:28:02 BUSINESSES, BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY START -- PEOPLE
14:28:07 ARE DOING THINGS, AND THIS HAPPENS.
14:28:08 NOW, IF THEY LOSE MONEY, THEY HAVE LAWSUITS, SO THAT'S A
14:28:12 CONCERN.
14:28:13 SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE HOW DO WE FIX THAT?
14:28:16 THEN YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT HOW
14:28:19 DO YOU FIX THAT PORTION FOR THE BUSINESS OWNERS, WHATEVER
14:28:22 THEY HAVE.
14:28:24 ARE THEY GRANDFATHERED INTO THAT POINT OR WHAT HAVE YOU?
14:28:26 SO THAT'S THE CONCERN OF BUSINESS OWNERS, WHICH THE
14:28:29 ORDINANCE, I THOUGHT, WAS CRAFTED, A FEW MORE TWEAKS WITH
14:28:34 YBOR, BUT A BIG PORTION IS, IF WE MOVE FORWARD, THERE IS
14:28:38 CONCERN HOW COULD IT DEAL WITH THEIR BOOKINGS.
14:28:42 SO I THINK THAT'S THEIR MAJOR CONCERN.
14:28:44 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST LIKE MY SECOND BITE, THE MAIN POINT OF
14:28:49 CONTENTION WAS, THE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND AFTER MIDNIGHT.
14:28:53 IF YOU LOOK AT MOST OF THE VENUES IN YBOR, MOST OF THEM
14:28:57 PRIMARILY HAVE INDOOR, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT HAVE
14:29:00 OUTDOOR.
14:29:01 BUT WE ARE NOT SHUTTING IT DOWN.
14:29:02 ONE OF THE BUILDINGS HAS LIKE FIVE FLOORS AND THIS ONLY
14:29:07 EXACT THE TOP FLOOR.
14:29:08 IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WOULD SHUT DOWN.
14:29:09 IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN HAVE ACOUSTIC NOISE.
14:29:12 I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE ACOUSTIC GUITAR.
14:29:15 THEY CAN'T HAVE AMPLIFIED NOISE AFTER MIDNIGHT.
14:29:18 IT DOES AFFECT SO BUSINESSES BUT IT DOESN'T AFFECT MOST AND
14:29:23 IT ALSO IMPACTED PERFORMING ARTS CENTERS LIKE THE CUBAN
14:29:27 CLUB.
14:29:28 SO WE NEED TO MAKE A CARVE OUT FOR THEM AND WE NEED TO TALK
14:29:32 TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN YBOR THAT HAVE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED
14:29:36 SOUND AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF
14:29:39 COMPROMISE WE CAN HAVE.
14:29:40 BUT I THINK LESS THAN TEN BUSINESSES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO
14:29:43 ADDRESS AS OPPOSED TO THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS WHO WANT A
14:29:46 SOLUTION.
14:29:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA?
14:29:49 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, THANK YOU.
14:29:50 I APPRECIATE THAT.
14:29:51 JUST MY THOUGHTS, I THINK THE PROPER WAY TO GO, JUST UPON
14:29:54 REVIEW, DISCUSSING WITH STAFF, AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU
14:29:58 ALL'S HARD WORK 100% ON THIS.
14:30:00 I KNOW IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT WITH A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH,
14:30:03 ET CETERA, IS TO, NUMBER ONE, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION, AND
14:30:08 SOME FOLKS TALKED ABOUT SOME SORT OF A CITIZENS COMMITTEE.
14:30:12 I THINK WHAT'S CLEAR IS THAT CHANNELSIDE NEEDS HELP NOW,
14:30:17 NOW, NOW.
14:30:18 I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
14:30:19 PEOPLE ARE SHOWING UP FOR THIS.
14:30:21 YOU KNOW, WHEN WE VOTED TO REPEAL THIS, I THINK IT WAS --
14:30:27 (AUDIO DROP)
14:30:48 CHANNELSIDE, LIKE I TALKED TO SOME OF THE FOLKS AT
14:30:51 CHANNELSIDE ABOUT A WEEK AGO, YOU HAVE ONE SIDE, YOU HAVE
14:30:54 YBOR CITY ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
14:30:55 THEN YOU HAVE GOT TAMPA PALMS.
14:30:57 SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THAT IS CHANNELSIDE.
14:30:58 AND WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT.
14:31:00 SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD FROM
14:31:05 THIS ORDINANCE SO THAT WE CAN -- LIKE HAS BEEN SAID BEFORE,
14:31:10 DEAL WITH THE UNIQUE ISSUES INVOLVED IN YBOR CITY.
14:31:13 I THINK THAT THE ORDINANCE IS CRAFTED, WOULD POSE A THREAT
14:31:18 THERE, SO REPEAL, DO SOME SORT OF COMMITTEE LIKE REALLY
14:31:22 FAST, LIKE MOVING FORWARD, REALLY, REALLY FAST, AND THEN
14:31:26 FAST MOVING FORWARD WITH IMMEDIATE RELIEF FOR AN ORDINANCE
14:31:31 FOR CHANNELSIDE.
14:31:31 THAT'S WHAT I THINK.
14:31:32 >> REPEAL, COMMITTEE, IMMEDIATE RELIEF FOR CHANNELSIDE.
14:31:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.
14:31:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT'S ALL SEMANTICS, IN MY OPINION.
14:31:53 WE HAD AN ORDINANCE.
14:31:54 IT WASN'T GOING TO GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL JULY.
14:31:57 WE WERE TO COME BACK IN APRIL AND DISCUSS IT FURTHER.
14:32:01 NOW WE REPEAL THE ORDINANCE.
14:32:03 WE HAVE TO START ANEW.
14:32:06 AND WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN.
14:32:08 IN MY OPINION, IT'S SEMANTICS.
14:32:12 THERE WAS A NOISE ORDINANCE MEETING SET FOR TUESDAY.
14:32:17 WE COULD HAVE HAD TWO MEETINGS UNDER OUR BELT THAT WOULD
14:32:20 HAVE BEEN WITH THE PUBLIC, BUSINESS OWNERS, AND EVERYBODY
14:32:23 ELSE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
14:32:26 NOW IN MY OPINION WE ARE TWO MONTHS BEHIND.
14:32:30 ON PAPER IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A 3-3 TIE VOTE ABOUT
14:32:34 THIS.
14:32:36 SOMETHING HAS GOT TO GIVE.
14:32:39 WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT IT.
14:32:41 THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT A PLACE
14:32:45 DOWN ON SOUTH MACDILL, THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A BAR, IN MY
14:32:51 OPINION.
14:32:53 I HAVE GOT BARS -- EXCUSE ME -- THE CITY HAS GOT BARS AND
14:32:57 RESTAURANTS OPENING UP THAT ARE INFRINGING UPON
14:33:01 NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THOSE PEOPLE WANT TO GO TO SLEEP AT 9:00,
14:33:06 10:00 AT NIGHT, BUT THAT BAR IS GOING TO BE PLAYING MUSIC
14:33:09 AFTER MIDNIGHT.
14:33:10 THERE'S A NOISE ORDINANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE CITY-WIDE.
14:33:16 WE COULD HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS
14:33:19 DECIDING ON WHAT MAY BE AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, WHAT MAY
14:33:23 NOT BE AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
14:33:25 WE ARE TWO MONTHS BEHIND.
14:33:27 IF NEED BE, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.
14:33:30 SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE SOMEWHERE.
14:33:32 THANK YOU.
14:33:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA?
14:33:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS.
14:33:37 I DON'T WANT TO HURT ANYONE.
14:33:40 HOWEVER, I DON'T WANT ANYONE HURTING SOMEBODY ELSE.
14:33:44 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
14:33:46 IT MEANS EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS.
14:33:51 AND I SAID THIS BEFORE.
14:33:54 WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM THAT EVERYONE HAD MUSIC OPEN.
14:33:59 SOME DIDN'T HAVE IT WAY BACK IN THE 50s AND 60s BUT THE
14:34:03 AMPLIFY ORDINANCE WASN'T AS STRONG AS IT IS TODAY.
14:34:08 IT'S TEN TIMES, 100 TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN THE SIZE OF
14:34:12 THIS BUILDING WHEN I WAS A KID.
14:34:15 SO THE PEOPLE AT 9:00, 10:00 AT NIGHT, BETWEEN THE HOURS OF
14:34:23 10 AND 2 IN THE MORNING?
14:34:25 SO THERE OUGHT TO BE SOMETHING TO HAVE TO DO WITH THE
14:34:29 VOLUME, WHAT'S HEARD AND HOW IT'S HEARD.
14:34:31 PEOPLE HAVE TO SLEEP.
14:34:33 BUSINESSES HAVE TO SUCCEED.
14:34:35 SO SOMEHOW THEY HAVE TO MANAGE TO COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING
14:34:39 AND I BELIEVE BOTH SIDES ARE RIGHT, BUT I BELIEVE ONE SIDE
14:34:42 HAS TO GIVE MORE THAN THE OTHER.
14:34:43 BECAUSE IF IT AFFECTS PEOPLE 100 DAYS, ONLY 15 SOMETIMES
14:34:53 THAT MEANS 15 DAYS THEY DON'T SLEEP.
14:34:55 THAT'S A LOT TO ME.
14:34:56 NOT 100% F.THIS THING SOLVES 100% OF THE PROBLEMS WE
14:35:00 WOULDN'T BE HERE.
14:35:01 BUT WE ARE HERE.
14:35:02 LET'S SAY IT'S 50%.
14:35:04 SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
14:35:06 EVERY THIRD DAY YOU DON'T SLEEP?
14:35:09 EVERY TWO AND A HALF DAYS US DON'T SLEEP?
14:35:12 THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK OUT.
14:35:14 AND BOTH SIDES ARE NOT COMING TO THE TABLE, ESPECIALLY ONE
14:35:19 SIDE, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND ABOUT BUSINESS, I UNDERSTAND IT'S
14:35:25 ABOUT HAVING FEELINGS AND ALL THAT.
14:35:29 I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT.
14:35:30 HOWEVER, SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO SLEEP.
14:35:32 AND YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT THIRD HOUR UNLESS PEOPLE
14:35:39 CAN SLEEP.
14:35:41 THAT'S ALL IT TAKES.
14:35:42 BUT IF IT'S A 3-3 TIE, THAT ORDINANCE IS STILL IN EFFECT
14:35:47 UNTIL THIS ONE IS PASSED.
14:35:49 THAT'S HOW IT ALWAYS IS.
14:35:51 AND SOMETIMES IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE IN COURT, I GUESS.
14:35:56 BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THINGS THAT -- RIGHT NOW WE AREN'T EVEN
14:36:02 CLOSE.
14:36:04 AND I UNDERSTAND THE ONES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, MR. CITRO,
14:36:07 AND I UNDERSTAND THE REST OF THEM.
14:36:08 BUT LISTEN, IN THE OLD DAYS -- AND I AM TALKING ABOUT THE
14:36:12 OLD DAYS -- THERE WAS NO DRINKING IN THE STREETS.
14:36:15 IN FACT, THERE WERE BLUE LAWS, YOU COULDN'T EVEN DO SERVICE
14:36:20 AT A CERTAIN TIME.
14:36:21 BLUE WENT TO THE SKY AND EVERYBODY CAN DRINK IN THE STREET.
14:36:25 IT IS WHAT IT IS.
14:36:25 THAT'S WHAT SOCIETY WANTS, THAT'S WHAT THEY GOT.
14:36:28 HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DUI RATIO THEN AND NOW, I THINK
14:36:34 THEY GOT IT TAKEN AWAY BUT LOOK AT IT THIS WAY.
14:36:39 IF YOU DON'T DRINKERS YOU CAN'T GET A DUI, AND YOU CAN'T GET
14:36:43 A DUI.
14:36:47 THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
14:36:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
14:36:52 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
14:37:01 IF THE REPEAL ORDINANCE IS NOT ADOPTED, THEN THE ORDINANCE
14:37:07 AMENDMENTS THAT WERE ADOPTED ON JANUARY 13th WILL STAND.
14:37:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY WILL STAND.
14:37:15 SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THE BUSINESS OWNERS -- IT GOES BACK
14:37:24 TO -- GOES BACK TO THE MONTH.
14:37:31 HOLD OFF AND ASSURE THEM OR SAY, LISTEN, GIVEN THAT TIME
14:37:35 FRAME, FOUR OR FIVE, THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO -- SO THEY
14:37:47 DON'T LOSE THAT, AND NOT SUED BECAUSE THEY ARE WAITING ON
14:37:50 THIS COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION.
14:37:56 WE WOULD HAVE THAT TIME TO MAKE IT WORK AND GET A FIT.
14:37:59 AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM MAKING SOMETHING WORK, BUT DO
14:38:08 THAT TO MAKE IT WORK.
14:38:10 THIS MAY BE HOW TO MAKE IT WORK TO EASE THE PAIN RIGHT NOW
14:38:14 FOR EVERYBODY.
14:38:16 >> SUSAN POINTED AT ME.
14:38:24 EITHER ONE.
14:38:25 [ LAUGHTER ]
14:38:25 SO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
14:38:27 IT'S REALLY CONFUSING FOR STAFF AND IT'S ALSO CONFUSING FOR
14:38:31 THE PUBLIC WHERE WE ARE, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP.
14:38:35 WHAT IS NOT CONFUSING IS WHAT THE RESIDENTS OF CHANNELSIDE
14:38:38 ARE ASKING.
14:38:39 SO IF YOU WERE TO MOVE FORWARD AND REPEAL THIS ORDINANCE,
14:38:42 YOU WOULD BE STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING AND WE WILL BE
14:38:45 STARTING OVER.
14:38:46 I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA THAT WE CAN APPOINT AN AD HOC
14:38:51 COMMITTEE THAT IS A MIX OF BOTH RESIDENTIAL REPRESENTATIVES
14:38:54 AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS TO COME TO SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS
14:39:00 AND PRESENT TO COUNCIL SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT BOTH SIDES
14:39:03 ARE HAPPY WITH.
14:39:04 SO I THINK YOU CAN TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION IF YOU ARE SO
14:39:09 INCLINED TO REPEAL THIS ORDINANCE, THEN MAKE A MOTION TO
14:39:11 DIRECT STAFF TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE TO R, OUT FROM THE
14:39:19 BUSINESS REQUIREMENTS, AND MAKE IT PLAINLY AUDIBLE.
14:39:23 SUSAN IS GOING TO CORRECT IT IN A MINUTE.
14:39:25 AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT SIX MONTHS OR EFFECTIVE, EFFECTIVE
14:39:30 DATE FOR THAT.
14:39:31 YOU CAN MAKE IT EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY ONCE YOU APPROVE THAT
14:39:34 ORDINANCE.
14:39:34 THE THIRD IS IF YOU HAVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE YOU HAVE
14:39:37 DIRECTED STAFF TO COME BACK REGARDING DEFINING ENTERTAINMENT
14:39:41 DISTRICTS, AND THERE IS NO ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT BY
14:39:45 DEFINITION IN OUR CODE, SO WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
14:39:48 YOU CAN USE THAT WORKSHOP INSTEAD TO HAVE A REPORT BACK FROM
14:39:52 THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT YOU APPOINT, AND WE WILL HAVE
14:39:56 SOMETHING A LITTLE SOONER THAN LATER AND ALLOW THE
14:39:59 BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS TO FIND A BALANCE AND WE WILL WORK
14:40:03 ALONGSIDE THEM TO DO THAT.
14:40:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MR. VIERA WILL WORK THAT OUT.
14:40:11 >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST DID.
14:40:12 THANK YOU, SIR.
14:40:13 THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST AS A PACKAGE WHICH IS THE THREE
14:40:16 ELEMENTS OF THE COMMITTEE, IMMEDIATE REPEAL AND THEN
14:40:18 IMMEDIATE RELIEF RIGHT NOW FOR CHANNELSIDE.
14:40:20 AND I THINK WHAT YOU SAID IS IMPORTANT, WHICH IS WE COULD BE
14:40:24 JUST LIKE STARTING OVER, TO QUOTE JOHN LENNON'S GREATEST
14:40:28 SOLO, BY THE WAY, BUT I THINK TAKING AS A PACKAGE, WE ARE
14:40:32 NOT JUST REPEALING IT.
14:40:34 I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY WERE
14:40:37 VERY FRUSTRATED BY THE REPEAL BECAUSE IT SENDS A MESSAGE WE
14:40:41 ARE DOING NOTHING.
14:40:42 BY DOING THIS WE ARE SAYING, LISTEN, WE ARE GOING TO GET
14:40:45 PEOPLE TOGETHER, RIGHT, TO THE AFFECTED AREAS TO BALANCE OUT
14:40:48 RESIDENTIAL INTERESTS WITH BUSINESS INTERESTS.
14:40:50 I THINK SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED ABOUT.
14:40:52 WE ARE GOING TO TAKE IMMEDIATE RELIEF FOR CHANNELSIDE.
14:40:55 A LOT OF FOLKS FROM CHANNELSIDE HERE, A LOT OF FOLKS FROM
14:40:57 CHANNELSIDE HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME AND TO OTHERS.
14:41:01 I THINK THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SEEN AS A PACKAGE, I THINK WE
14:41:07 CAN OVERCOME 3-3.
14:41:08 MAYBE I AM RIGHT BUT MAYBE I AM NAIVE HERE.
14:41:11 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: COUNCIL IS TRYING TO BE PROVIDE RELIEF AND
14:41:17 TRYING TO LISTEN TO BOTH SIDE.
14:41:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, MR. CITRO, MR. CARLSON,
14:41:21 ANYTHING ON THAT ISSUE?
14:41:23 >>BILL CARLSON: WE NEED HELP THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND WE
14:41:35 NEED MORE THAN JUST A FIVE MINUTE RULE.
14:41:37 SOUTH TAMPA HAS SOUND PROBLEMS ALL OVER.
14:41:40 AND MR. CITRO MENTIONED THIS, AND I WOULD RATHER KEEP THE
14:41:47 THING AS IT IS THAN CANCEL IT.
14:41:50 BUT IF YOU ALL VOTE IN THE OTHER DIRECTION, THEN I WOULD
14:41:53 JUST ASK THAT THE REST OF THE CITY HAS TO BE INCLUDED.
14:41:55 WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S
14:41:58 REASONABLE FOR NEIGHBORHOODS.
14:41:59 I THINK IT STARTED WITH COUNCILMEMBER CITRO ASKING A
14:42:03 QUESTION, WHY IS IT THAT EVERY ALCOHOLIC HEARING WE HAVE TO
14:42:05 ASK ABOUT OUT DOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND?
14:42:08 SO HE WAS TRYING TO A ADDRESS IT SYSTEMICALLY.
14:42:11 >> IF YOU APPROVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE YOU CAN -- THAT CAN BE
14:42:17 A CHARGE OF THE COMMITTEE.
14:42:19 AND THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, IS TO DO THIS CITY-WIDE
14:42:22 AND NOT ON A PIECEMEAL BASIS, OR THAT HELPS WITH
14:42:26 ENFORCEMENT, EVERY TIME, A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER GOES OUT,
14:42:31 YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT YOUR ASSIGNMENTS ARE AND THAT WOULD
14:42:34 TAKE YOU OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF ASKING THAT QUESTION WITH
14:42:37 ALCOHOL SALES LICENSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY COME BEFORE YOU.
14:42:41 IT TAKES AWAY THE NOISE PIECE OUT OF IT.
14:42:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE TALKED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY ALL MORNING
14:42:50 LONG.
14:42:50 THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE, WOULD IT BE A COMMITTEE THAT IS OPEN
14:42:55 TO THE PUBLIC, ARE THERE GOING TO BE MINUTES TAKEN, IS IT
14:42:59 GOING TO BE NOTICED?
14:43:01 SURE, I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE RESTAURANT AND BAR OWNERS.
14:43:04 THAT'S THEIR LIVELIHOOD.
14:43:05 I UNDERSTAND.
14:43:08 BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, THE CITIZENS
14:43:11 LIVING RIGHT NEXT TO SOME OF THESE BARS OR DOWN THE STREET
14:43:14 FROM THESE BARS.
14:43:15 SO IF I CAN BE GUARANTEED, YES, THEY ARE GOING TO BE OPEN,
14:43:20 NOTICED, THERE'S GOING TO BE LEGISLATION, I WOULD BE FOR
14:43:24 THAT.
14:43:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY?
14:43:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, IF I CAN.
14:43:29 IF PART OF YOUR MOTION IS TO DELEGATE THE AUTHORITY TO
14:43:31 CREATE THAT AD HOC BOARD, YOU ARE ACTUALLY DELEGATING
14:43:36 SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE COMING BACK WITH
14:43:38 RECOMMENDATIONS.
14:43:38 SO I THINK BY ITS NATURE WOULD BE A SUNSHINE BOARD AND THE
14:43:45 REQUIREMENTS OF ANYBODY THAT THINKS OTHERWISE, PLEASE SAY
14:43:47 SO.
14:43:48 BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS ONCE YOU VOTE TO DELEGATE AUTHORITY
14:43:52 TO COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU ARE IN FACT
14:43:55 DELEGATING CREATING A SUNSHINE BOARD.
14:43:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
14:44:07 THANK YOU, CHAIR.
14:44:08 >>BILL CARLSON: IF IT PASSES THEN MAYBE COUNCILMAN VIERA
14:44:11 CAN MAKE HIS PROPOSAL IN A MOTION.
14:44:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
14:44:14 ITEM 61, IN THAT CASE.
14:44:16 >> I'LL READ IT.
14:44:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE.
14:44:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
14:44:31 >> SECOND.
14:44:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, WE ARE CLOSED.
14:44:33 MR. MANISCALCO.
14:44:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 14.
14:44:38 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
14:44:40 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
14:44:42 REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-18 RELATING TO THE
14:44:46 REGULATION OF NOISE, CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES
14:44:49 CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE 3, NOISE, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
14:44:52 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
14:44:53 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
14:44:59 IF I MAY.
14:45:00 AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON REQUESTED, THIS WOULD BE A SEPARATE
14:45:03 ISSUE FROM THE COMMITTEE AND IMMEDIATE RELIEF FOR
14:45:06 CHANNELSIDE BUT IN MY MIND THEY ARE ALL TOGETHER.
14:45:09 BUT SECOND.
14:45:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
14:45:11 MR. SHELBY, DO YOU WANT A ROLL CALL?
14:45:14 ALL RIGHT.
14:45:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOT TO BE FIRST.
14:45:18 THANK YOU.
14:45:21 I WANT TO VOTE NO ON THIS BUT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.
14:45:26 I HAVE ALREADY EXPRESSED MY OPINIONS ON THIS NOISE
14:45:28 ORDINANCE, CITY-WIDE.
14:45:32 SO YES, I WILL VOTE FOR IT.
14:45:33 >> NO.
14:45:37 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
14:45:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:45:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:45:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:45:42 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA AND CARLSON VOTING
14:45:45 NO.
14:45:46 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
14:45:47 THEN I WOULD MAKE A MOTION WITH TWO PARTS AND PLEASE FEEL
14:45:50 FREE TO AMEND IT.
14:45:51 NUMBER ONE, DIRECTING STAFF TO REPORT TO US.
14:45:54 WE CAN GET WITH THE TIME, I WOULD SAY -- I MEAN, I WOULD
14:45:58 LIKE THIS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
14:45:59 LET ME ASK YOU GUYS, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED TO COME
14:46:02 BACK WITH THE SPECIFICS OF THE COMMITTEE, AD HOC COMMITTEE
14:46:05 AND WHATNOT?
14:46:06 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
14:46:16 AND PROBABLY REACH OUT TO SOME OF YOU, BUT A COMMITTEE, JUST
14:46:24 SAYING THERE NEED TO BE AN APPROACH CITY-WIDE AND BALANCED,
14:46:26 I THINK IT'S REALLY UP TO COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE YOUR AD HOC
14:46:29 COMMITTEE.
14:46:31 YOU COULD APPOINT THE MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE WHERE YOU
14:46:35 ARE INCLINED.
14:46:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T SEE THAT APPROACH.
14:46:40 I REALLY DON'T.
14:46:41 I SEE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
14:46:44 YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITIES, YOU HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD
14:46:47 ASSOCIATIONS.
14:46:52 YOU ARE GOING TOO FAR.
14:46:53 THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL SPEAK THEIR PIECE.
14:46:56 YOU HAVE THE BUSINESS OWNERS.
14:46:57 YOU HAVE THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS.
14:46:59 I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO GO THAT STRETCH, AD HOC COMMITTEE.
14:47:02 I THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE ENGAGEMENT, YOU NEED TO HAVE --
14:47:10 MEETINGS WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS COMING UP WITH IDEAS
14:47:12 AND PERHAPS AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
14:47:15 I JUST DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO GO THAT FAR TO HAVE SUNSHINE
14:47:19 AND ALL THAT STUFF, IT'S GOING TO GET POLITICAL THERE, GOOD
14:47:22 OLD-FASHIONED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, TALKING TO THE RESIDENTS
14:47:25 OF THOSE COMMUNITIES, AND TALKING TO THE BUSINESSES.
14:47:28 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
14:47:32 THANK YOU, SIR.
14:47:33 AND I WOULD MOTION FOR -- I WILL TRY TO PUT THESE INTO ONE
14:47:38 MOTION.
14:47:39 NUMBER ONE, FOR STAFF TO RETURN TO US IN A MONTH, 30, IS
14:47:44 THAT OKAY?
14:47:45 AND WE CAN GET THE DATE ON AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.
14:47:47 AGAIN I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THINGS TO FILL IN
14:47:49 THERE TO DISCUSS IT WITH ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO WE CAN
14:47:54 COME BACK ON THAT.
14:47:55 AND THEN SECONDLY, TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE WITH NOON DELAY
14:47:58 INCORPORATING IMMEDIATE CHANGES FOR CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT FOR
14:48:04 IMMEDIATE NOISE RELIEF.
14:48:06 LONG DAY.
14:48:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM GOING TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION BEFORE
14:48:12 WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS, JUST A REMINDER, THE CLERK CAN CORRECT
14:48:16 ME, BUT THERE IS THAT MATTER THAT'S STILL SET, ALTHOUGH IT
14:48:19 DOESN'T MAKE REFERENCE TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE, BUT IF I LOOK
14:48:21 AT THE THIRD ITEM DOWN ON THE 28th OF APRIL, THERE'S A
14:48:26 WORKSHOP, STAFF TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY BASED ON THE
14:48:29 FEEDBACK PROVIDED COMMUNITY AND A REPORT AND RECOMMEND
14:48:34 AMENDMENTS TO THE ADOPTED ORDINANCE.
14:48:35 IT MAKES NO REFERENCE TO WHAT THAT IS, BUT I ASSUME --
14:48:40 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IT IS THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
14:48:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT REMNANT, THAT
14:48:46 THAT IT'S BEEN APPEALED, YOU STILL HAVE THAT WORKSHOP SET --
14:48:50 >>LUIS VIERA: WE CAN TAKE THAT OFF, I ASSUME, GIVEN -- IF I
14:48:53 MAY.
14:48:55 I MEAN, IT'S A WEEK BEFORE.
14:48:56 THEY ARE COMING BACK TO US A WEEK BEFORE.
14:48:58 NOW A WEEK BEFORE AS OPPOSED TO THE 28th.
14:49:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD ASK COUNCIL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO
14:49:04 RESOLVING THAT ISSUE AS WELL AS YOUR MOTION.
14:49:06 THE OTHER THING, COUNCIL, IS THE CONCEPT OF AN AD HOC BOARD
14:49:11 BE CREATED BY COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE
14:49:17 WAY THE CHAIR DESCRIBED AND TAKES ON A LIFE OF ALMOST A
14:49:24 CITIZEN BUDGET AND FINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND MEET WITH
14:49:28 INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO TALK ABOUT THE -- I JUST WANT
14:49:34 YOU TO NOTICE THAT IT WOULD BE A SUNSHINE BOARD AND IT WOULD
14:49:36 BE MUCH MORE INVOLVED THAN THE AD HOC COMMITTEE OF CITY
14:49:41 COUNCIL.
14:49:41 IT'S VERY UNUSUAL.
14:49:44 AS A MATTER OF FACT, I AM GOING TO BE ASKING COUNCIL TO PUT
14:49:48 THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO BE DISCUSSED.
14:49:52 SO THAT BEING THE CASE, LOGISTICALLY IT CREATES A LOT MORE
14:49:58 COMPLEXITY THAT WOULD TAKE A LOT LONGER THAN I THIS I THIS
14:50:01 COUNCIL WANTS TO SPEND ON IT.
14:50:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
14:50:08 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW THIS FROM YOUR
14:50:15 APPOINTEES, BUT THAT COMMITTEE, WE ARE HAVING A HARD TIME
14:50:19 STAFFING IT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE GET A QUORUM AND
14:50:22 SUNSHINE AND EVERYTHING.
14:50:23 AND I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO EITHER ASK STAFF TO COME
14:50:28 BACK WITH A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, OR ASK THEM TO HAVE A
14:50:31 CERTAIN NUMBER OF MEETINGS.
14:50:33 IDEALLY, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE AN IDEAL SITUATION,
14:50:39 WE WOULD HAVE EIGHT MEETINGS, TWO IN EACH DISTRICT, ONE
14:50:42 WOULD BE BUSINESS, ONE BUSINESS MEETING IN EACH DISTRICT AND
14:50:45 ONE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING IN EACH DISTRICT.
14:50:47 AND INVITE ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS IN THAT DISTRICT,
14:50:51 AND ALL THE BUSINESS LEADERS IN THAT DISTRICT SO WE CAN HEAR
14:50:54 FROM THEM SEPARATELY.
14:50:55 ALTHOUGH THEY MIGHT CROSS OVER, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HEAR
14:50:58 FROM THE BUSINESS LEADERS, IDEALLY BY THEMSELVES, IN CASE
14:51:02 THEN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR THEIR SPECIFIC INTERESTS, AND
14:51:05 THE SAME WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
14:51:09 IF WE COULD DO THAT WITHIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, OR THAT WOULD
14:51:13 BE FANTASTIC.
14:51:14 WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND THEN I THINK THE
14:51:16 STAFF, AND THE OTHER MEETINGS, THEY ARE GOOD AT LISTENING TO
14:51:22 THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK, AND YOU ALL CAN COMPILE IT AND SAME
14:51:26 HERE IS WHAT WE HAVE HEARD.
14:51:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
14:51:30 AND I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT.
14:51:31 AND IF THAT'S WHERE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO TO AVOID THE
14:51:35 COMPLEXITY ISSUES, I THINK THE DISPOSITIVE ISSUE IS WE WANT
14:51:37 TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY REACHES OUT TO ALL AFFECTED
14:51:40 COMMUNITIES, AND THEN USES THE TALENTS OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE
14:51:44 THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED FOR POTENTIAL COMMITTEE, WHETHER IT
14:51:47 COMES THROUGH A COMMITTEE OR VIGOROUS ENGAGEMENT, EITHER WAY
14:51:50 IS FINE.
14:51:51 I MEAN, I THINK IT ACCOMPLISHES THE SAME GOAL.
14:51:53 I'M FINE WITH THAT.
14:51:55 BUT AGAIN, SO WHAT I WILL DO THEN IS, IF I MAY, IS AMEND MY
14:52:00 MOTION FOR NUMBER ONE, FOR THE AFOREMENTIONED IMMEDIATE
14:52:03 RELIEF FOR CHANNELSIDE TO BE PRESENTED TO US IN AN
14:52:06 ORDINANCE.
14:52:07 WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT?
14:52:10 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WE CAN PRESENT THAT AT THE NEXT
14:52:12 MEETING.
14:52:12 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DO THAT.
14:52:13 I KNOW OUR FRIENDS AT CHANNELSIDE WOULD LOVE THAT.
14:52:16 THEN NUMBER TWO FOR A PLAN OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TO BE
14:52:20 PRESENTED, YOU ALL CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND MAYBE TAKE
14:52:25 THAT APRIL 21st DATE TO UPDATE US ON THE PLAN OF ACTION,
14:52:29 HOW IT'S GOING, ET CETERA.
14:52:30 IS THAT GOOD WITH EVERYBODY?
14:52:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR REFERENCE TO THE
14:52:42 ORDINANCE FOR CHANNEL DISTRICT.
14:52:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: APRIL 7th.
14:52:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: APRIL 7th.
14:52:49 ALL RIGHT.
14:52:49 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
14:52:53 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD BE FINE WITH FIRST READING.
14:52:55 LET'S GET IT.
14:52:56 >> SECOND.
14:52:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
14:52:59 ROLL CALL, MR. SHELBY?
14:53:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
14:53:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR?
14:53:04 ANY OPPOSED?
14:53:05 MOTION GRANTED.
14:53:07 MR. VIERA?
14:53:07 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
14:53:08 AND THEN SECOND FOR THE AFOREMENTIONED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
14:53:13 PLAN TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO US FOR THE STATUS OF IT ON APRIL
14:53:17 21st, IF I MAY.
14:53:19 >> THANK YOU.
14:53:24 SO THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, WE HAVE AFTER THE PLAN COMES OUT
14:53:29 TO YOU, AGAIN I DO NEED TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE TAKING
14:53:33 TO THE PUBLIC TO ASK FOR COMMENTS.
14:53:34 WE DID NOT, WHEN WE DID THE WORKSHOP, WE DID THAT, WE DID A
14:53:40 LOT OF OUTREACH AND WE DID A LOT OF -- DOWN TO THE FOUR
14:53:45 ITEMS.
14:53:48 EVERYONE WASN'T HAPPY, BUT THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THE FOUR.
14:53:51 SO WHEN WE HOLD THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PIECE, I NEED A LITTLE
14:53:54 MORE DIRECTION FROM YOU EXACTLY WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO COME
14:54:00 BACK?
14:54:01 GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE.
14:54:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THAT'S BEHIND THE SCENES THAT
14:54:09 COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR.
14:54:13 I HAVE A LOT OF ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
14:54:15 SOME PEOPLE DON'T BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
14:54:18 AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT, ONE, WHAT IS AN
14:54:21 ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT?
14:54:23 WHERE IS IT LOCATED AT?
14:54:24 TWO, TALK ABOUT DECIBEL NOISE, AMPLIFIED SOUND, ANYONE THAT
14:54:30 COMES TO TAMPA, THEY WANT TO BE OUTSIDE, IT'S HOT, THEY WANT
14:54:36 TO BE INSIDE, CLOSED DOORS, AND BUSINESSES HAVE OUTSIDE
14:54:40 ENTERTAINING.
14:54:41 SO IT COMES DOWN TO THAT, AND COMES DOWN TO -- IF IT HAS TO
14:54:46 BE DISCUSSED WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT
14:54:48 OF PEOPLE, THEY ARE WORKING AT NIGHT OUTSIDE.
14:54:55 SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
14:54:56 AND LOOK AT THAT AS ANOTHER ASPECT.
14:54:59 LOOK AT YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
14:55:00 WHAT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAYING ABOUT BOOM, BOOM, BOOM,
14:55:04 NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN, WHAT WILL BE THE POLICE ROLE AS FAR
14:55:09 AS CITATIONS OR FIVE MINUTE WARNING?
14:55:14 THOSE ARE SOME OF THE KEY COMPONENTS TO YOUR NOISE.
14:55:17 AND AGAIN, SOMETHING HAS TO BE EXPLAINED, THE BUILDING.
14:55:26 NOW YOU HAVE TO LOOK -- A LOT OF THIS NEW MUSIC AND STUFF,
14:55:31 IT'S A DIFFERENT TIME AND ERA FOR MAKING THIS STUFF.
14:55:36 SO OKAY, IF IT'S INSIDE A BUILDING, HOW LOUD, WHAT THE AMPS
14:55:42 CAN BE SO IT DOESN'T VIBRATE ON THE REBAR ON THE BUILDING?
14:55:46 BUT TO A BUSINESS OWNER, WHEN PEOPLE HEAR NOISE, PEOPLE ARE
14:55:52 LOOKING TO SEE WHERE THE NOISE IS COMING FROM.
14:55:55 SO IT HAS TO BE TO HOW MUCH IS HAPPENING IN THAT BUILDING?
14:56:01 THE LEVELS, SOME BUSINESS OWNERS, AT LEAST GO IN AND WHERE
14:56:10 IS IT AT?
14:56:15 THOSE ARE MY MAIN POINTS.
14:56:18 ANYONE ELSE WANT TO CHIME IN SO WE CAN BRING THIS IN FOR A
14:56:21 LANDING?
14:56:22 ANYONE ELSE?
14:56:26 MR. VIERA.
14:56:27 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:56:28 AND AGAIN, WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
14:56:32 PLAN BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL ON APRIL 21st, JUST FOR THE
14:56:38 SAKE OF TIME, BECAUSE I THINK IF WE START TO GO ON
14:56:42 SPECIFICS -- AND I SITE THAT RESPECTFULLY.
14:56:47 SO THAT'S MY MOTION.
14:56:48 THANK YOU.
14:56:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD INCLUDE TO ASK ANOTHER BAR OR
14:56:55 RESTAURANT IF THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AMPLIFIED
14:56:58 MUSIC.
14:56:58 I THINK IT'S THAT SIMPLE FOR ME.
14:57:00 THANK YOU.
14:57:02 I AM JUST MAKING A STATEMENT.
14:57:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
14:57:06 WE HAVE SIX POINTS, CORRECT?
14:57:09 OR POSSIBLE POINTS.
14:57:10 ALL RIGHT.
14:57:10 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:57:11 ANY OPPOSED?
14:57:13 MOTION GRANTED.
14:57:13 MR. SHELBY.
14:57:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE SAKE OF CLEANING UP THE AGENDA, TO
14:57:17 REMOVE THAT ITEM REGARDING NOISE FROM THE APRIL 28th
14:57:21 WORKSHOP?
14:57:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED, CITRO SECOND IT.
14:57:25 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:57:27 OPPOSED?
14:57:27 MOTION GRANTED.
14:57:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
14:57:32 >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH MR. CITRO ON THE AMPLIFIED
14:57:35 SOUND THING.
14:57:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
14:57:44 THIS MEETING IS --
14:57:48 ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE NUMBER 61.
14:57:52 WE GO TO 262.
14:57:53 >>REBECCA JOHNS: ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
14:58:01 GOOD AFTERNOON.
14:58:01 THIS IS THE SECOND READING ON THE TENANT'S BILL OF RIGHTS
14:58:05 AND PROHIBITION ON THE SOURCE OF INCOME DISCRIMINATION.
14:58:08 WE PROVIDED YOU WITH A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
14:58:12 INITIALLY THE ORDINANCE PROVIDED FOR A MARCH 1st DATE OF
14:58:16 COMMENCEMENT OF PENALTIES.
14:58:18 DUE TO THE TIMING AND TO GIVE US TIME TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC,
14:58:21 WE PUSHED THAT BACK TO JUNE 1st.
14:58:24 BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS AS IT WAS.
14:58:28 SO WE ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
14:58:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE LADY?
14:58:31 ALL RIGHT.
14:58:31 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
14:58:38 ANYONE REGISTERED?
14:58:40 ANYONE REGISTERED?
14:58:41 ALL RIGHT.
14:58:55 >>THE CLERK: I HAVE MS. STROHMEYER, IF YOU COULD PLEASE
14:58:56 UNMUTE YOURSELF.
14:58:57 >> HELLO?
14:59:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HELLO.
14:59:04 YOU ARE BACK.
14:59:05 >> HI. GOOD AFTERNOON.
14:59:08 HAPPY SAINT PATRICK'S DAY EVERYBODY.
14:59:14 THIS IS THE TENANT'S BILL OF RIGHTS ISSUE.
14:59:17 AND I WAS A LANDLORD ONCE, AND FRANKLY, I THINK THE LANDLORD
14:59:22 TENANT RELATIONSHIP SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE.
14:59:27 I NEVER -- I JUST FEEL THAT THIS IS GOING TO PUT AN UNDUE
14:59:36 BURDEN ON SMALL LANDLORDS THAT MIGHT HAVE ONE PROPERTY,
14:59:42 MAYBE LIKE -- ENDED UP WITH A PROPERTY AND ANY GOVERNMENTAL
14:59:54 INTEREST IN PROPERTY, THAT REQUIRES AN INSPECTION, THEN THEY
15:00:00 TAKE THE MONEY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T RECEIVE IT, FRANKLY, I
15:00:03 WOULDN'T -- WELL, I WAS A GOOD LANDLORD, BUT EVEN SO, I
15:00:07 STILL WOULDN'T WANT SOMEBODY COMING IN IF I MAKE AN
15:00:10 APPOINTMENT FOR SOMEBODY FOR MY APARTMENT OR UNIT WHEN IT
15:00:17 SHOULDN'T BE ANYBODY'S BUSINESS WHAT I AM GOING TO DO WITH A
15:00:22 CONTRACT WITH A TENANT.
15:00:24 THAT'S SIMPLE BASIC CONTRACT LAW.
15:00:27 YOU KNOW, WE CAN CONTRACT IF THEY LIVE THERE, AND WHENEVER
15:00:35 THE CONTRACT IS UP.
15:00:39 [ INAUDIBLE ]
15:00:43 I COULD BE WRONG BUT I DON'T THINK I AM.
15:00:45 OKAY, THANK YOU.
15:00:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, JEAN.
15:00:52 NEXT SPEAKER.
15:00:53 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
15:00:57 HOWEVER, SHE IS NOT LOGGED ON AT THIS TIME.
15:00:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK ON
15:01:00 THIS ITEM?
15:01:02 MOTION TO CLOSE BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY VIERA.
15:01:06 MOTION GRANTED.
15:01:07 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE THAT, IF I MAY.
15:01:16 I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT HAS BEEN IN
15:01:21 PLACE IN THE COUNTY.
15:01:22 WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE SKY FALL IN THE COUNTY.
15:01:24 I THINK TO THE CONTRARY, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS TENANTS AND A
15:01:29 LOT OF APARTMENTS AND DIFFERENT PLACES, NUMBER ONE, KNOW
15:01:33 THEIR RIGHTS, KNOW THEIR RIGHTS ON HABITABILITY, ON
15:01:37 DISCRIMINATION ISSUES LIKE THE 1968 HOUSING LAW, ET CETERA,
15:01:41 ET CETERA.
15:01:41 WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE EMPOWERED KNOWING THEIR RIGHTS THAT WERE
15:01:45 VERY HARD FOUGHT FOR.
15:01:47 AND SECOND THIS IS AN ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE.
15:01:50 THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT FIGHTS DISCRIMINATION SAYING THAT
15:01:52 IF YOUR LAWFUL SOURCE OF INCOME, LAWFUL SOURCE OF INCOME,
15:01:57 DEALS WITH SOMETHING LIKE A HOUSING VOUCHER SECTION 8, IF
15:02:02 IT'S SSI, SSD, IF IT'S VETERANS BENEFITS, YOU MAY NOT
15:02:07 DISCRIMINATE BASED UPON THAT LAWFUL SOURCE OF INCOME.
15:02:10 IT DOESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE PERSON, DOESN'T MANDATE
15:02:12 THAT.
15:02:12 JUST YOU CAN'T USE THAT AS A CONSIDERATION TO DENY SOMEBODY
15:02:15 HOUSING, GIVEN OUR HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE
15:02:20 WITH RENTAL PRICES GOING UP ABOUT A QUARTER THE LAST YEAR.
15:02:25 THIS TO ME IS A MODICUM OF DIGNITY WHENEVER IT COMES TO THIS
15:02:29 ISSUE.
15:02:30 I LOOK FORWARD TO PASSING THIS AND I THANK EVERYBODY'S HARD
15:02:33 WORK.
15:02:33 CHAIRMAN GUDES, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP AND I
15:02:36 APPRECIATE IT.
15:02:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
15:02:38 MR. CARLSON.
15:02:43 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR THAT DESCRIPTION.
15:02:44 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER E 2022-8-CH 12.
15:02:52 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING -- I WAS ABOUT
15:02:59 TO READ IT.
15:03:00 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
15:03:03 OPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AMENDING
15:03:07 THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE ORDINANCES CHANT 2 TO ADD ARTICLE 7,
15:03:12 TENANT'S BILL OF RIGHTS AND THE PROHIBITION OF SOURCE OF
15:03:16 INCOME DISCRIMINATION AND SECTIONS 12-140 THROUGH 12-145
15:03:20 WITHIN SAID ARTICLE, PROVIDING FOR A TITLE, PROVIDING FOR
15:03:24 DEFINITION, PROVIDING FOR A REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE TENANTS
15:03:27 WITH A NOTICE OF RIGHTS, PROVIDING FOR A TITLE, PROVIDING
15:03:30 FOR PROHIBITION ON SOURCE OF INCOME DISCRIMINATION,
15:03:34 PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT, AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
15:03:38 PROVIDING FOR EXEMPTIONS, A AMENDING SECTIONS 12-4-A,
15:03:42 12-5-E, 19-4-A, AND 23.5-5-D OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
15:03:53 ORDINANCES IN CONNECTION WITH THIS NEW ARTICLE 7, REPEALING
15:03:57 ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH,
15:04:00 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
15:04:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
15:04:04 ROLL CALL.
15:04:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
15:04:06 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
15:04:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
15:04:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
15:04:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
15:04:13 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
15:04:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 63.
15:04:16 >> STEVEN BENSON, PLANNING DIRECTOR.
15:04:25 WE HAVE A PRESENTATION.
15:04:26 THIS IS PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU FOR
15:04:30 SECOND READING TODAY.
15:04:32 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
15:04:34 THE SUBJECT AMENDMENT WAS PROCESSED AS PART OF THE JULY 2021
15:04:39 TEXT AMENDMENT CYCLE, AND INCLUDED A TOTAL OF NINE CODE
15:04:42 SECTIONS.
15:04:43 THE WORKSHOP WAS HELD IN MARCH OF 2021, AND OBJECTIONS WERE
15:04:48 ISSUED FOR STAFF HAD MAJOR CONCERNS AND REQUESTED
15:04:51 MODIFICATIONS.
15:04:52 BASED ON THESE OBJECTIONS, COORDINATION AND PUBLIC OUTREACH,
15:04:56 THE APPLICANT VOLUNTARILY WITHDREW FIVE ITEMS LEAVING ONLY
15:04:59 FOUR ITEMS FROM THE ORIGINAL TEXT AMENDMENT REQUEST TO BE
15:05:02 CONSIDERED.
15:05:04 THE APPLICANTS ARE STEVE MICHELINI AND JOHN LUM AND THE FOUR
15:05:10 SECTIONS ARE NOTED ON THE SCREEN FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE.
15:05:12 NEXT SLIDE.
15:05:13 FIRST READING WAS HELD ON MARCH 3rd, 2022.
15:05:16 IT WHATS CONTINUED BY COUNCIL TO MARCH 17th, TODAY, WITH
15:05:20 A REQUEST FOR STAFF TO BE REVIEW THE INFORMATION SUBMITTED
15:05:22 AND PROVIDE FURTHER EVALUATION.
15:05:25 NO ADDITIONAL OBJECTIONS ARE OFFERED BY STAFF AT THIS TIME.
15:05:28 THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS TO PROVIDE STAFF'S
15:05:32 FURTHER EVALUATION OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO ASSIST
15:05:34 COUNCIL IN REACHING A DETERMINATION.
15:05:37 I AM GOING TO REVIEW EACH ITEM AND PROVIDE A SUMMARY AT THE
15:05:40 END OF THE PRESENTATION.
15:05:43 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
15:05:49 27-162, YARDS BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
15:05:52 THE CURRENT CODE ALLOWS FOR WHEN A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
15:05:55 CONTAINS MORE THAN ONE BUILDING THE REQUIRED STRUCTURAL
15:05:58 SEPARATION IS BASED ON A CALCULATION OF THE BUILDING
15:06:02 MASSING, THE LENGTH, THE WIDTH AND THE HEIGHT OF THE
15:06:04 BUILDING.
15:06:04 THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION IS TO REMOVE THE CALCULATION
15:06:07 REQUIREMENT AND ESTABLISH A STANDARD FOR YARDS BETWEEN
15:06:10 BUILDINGS THAT ARE SET 15 FEET.
15:06:13 NEXT SLIDE.
15:06:15 THE PROPOSED CHANGE WILL CREATE A UNIFORM APPLICATION OF THE
15:06:18 SEPARATION, THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT.
15:06:20 AS FAR AS IMPACTS GO, IMPACTS WILL VARY DEPENDING ON THE
15:06:24 CONSTRAINTS.
15:06:24 UNDERLINING ZONING DISTRICT AS WELL AS SITE SPECIFIC DETAILS
15:06:28 THAT AFFECT THE FORMULA CALCULATION, AND THOSE INPUTS
15:06:31 INCLUDE THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACKS, FRONT, REAR AND
15:06:34 SIDE.
15:06:35 THE LENGTH OF THE WALLS, THE LOT SIZE, AND THE DIMENSIONS.
15:06:39 ALL OF THESE FACTORS SHALL GOING TO ADDRESS WHETHER OR NOT
15:06:41 THE CALCULATION COMES OUT HIGHER THAN 15 FEET OR LOWER THAN
15:06:44 15 SEAT SO IT'S GOING TO DEPEND.
15:06:46 THE EFFECTIVE ZONING DISTRICTS, A THAT THIS EFFECTS ARE
15:06:51 ALLOWED, HOWEVER ACCOUNT FOR 88% OF THE CITY'S LAND AREA.
15:06:56 NEXT SLIDE.
15:07:03 27-156, THE RM-24 ZONING DISTRICT.
15:07:06 THE CURRENT CODE ALLOWS THAT FOR EACH FOOT OF BUILDING
15:07:09 HEIGHT ABOVE 30 FEET IN THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
15:07:12 DISTRICTS, THE REQUIRED YARD SHALL BE INCREASED BY ONE FOOT
15:07:15 AND THE DIAGRAM ON THE RIGHT SHOWS CONCEPTUALLY WHAT THAT
15:07:19 MEANS.
15:07:20 THAT STEP UP REQUIREMENT IS WHAT WE CALL IS IT A ONE FOR ONE
15:07:23 INCREASE OF UP TO 30 FEET IN HEIGHT AND YOU CAN SEE AS THE
15:07:26 HEIGHT INCREASES THE SETBACKS HAVE TO BE CINE HE IS AND THAT
15:07:30 BEGINS AT 30 FEET.
15:07:32 NEXT SLIDE.
15:07:34 THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION IS TO FOOTNOTE 2, WHICH REMOVES
15:07:38 THE HEIGHT THRESHOLD AND PLACES IT AT 35 FEET AND IF IMPACT
15:07:42 OF THAT IS SHOWN IN PURPLE ON THE CONCEPTUAL DIAGRAM.
15:07:46 NEXT SLIDE.
15:07:48 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THIS AMENDMENT TO CREATE MORE
15:07:51 CONSISTENCY IN THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING FORMS UP TO 35 FEET
15:07:56 AND REDUCE THE NEED TO SEEK WAIVERS FOR STRUCTURES UP TO 35
15:07:59 FEET THAT COMPLY WITH THE SAME MINIMUM SETBACKS THAT ARE
15:08:01 CURRENTLY REQUIRED FOR BUILDINGS UP TO 30 FEET IN HEIGHT SO
15:08:05 IT'S THE PURPLE AREA, THE PURPLE AREA BELOW THE 35-FOOT
15:08:09 LINE.
15:08:10 NEXT SLIDE.
15:08:11 YOU CAN SEE A COMPARISON OF BEFORE AND AFTER A WHAT THAT
15:08:15 MEANS, FOR UP TO 35 FEET AND BUILDINGS ABOVE 35 FEET.
15:08:21 THAT BUILDING ENVELOPE IS SHOWN IN PURPOSE.
15:08:23 NEXT SLIDE.
15:08:25 THIS IS IMPORTANT.
15:08:26 FOR BUILDINGS BETWEEN 30 AND 60 FEET IN HEIGHT THE AMENDMENT
15:08:29 ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE FOLLOWING: EXTERIOR WALLS MAY BE PLACED
15:08:33 CLOSER TO THE FRONT, WE'RE AND SIDE PROPERTY LINES THAN WHAT
15:08:37 WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE CURRENT CODE.
15:08:38 THE EXACT LOCATION OF THAT LINE STILL DEPENDS ON THE HEIGHT
15:08:41 OF THE BUILDING.
15:08:41 BUT WALLS EXCEEDING 35 FEET IN HEIGHT MAY BE PLACED UP TO 5
15:08:47 FEET CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY LINES IN ALL DIRECTIONS.
15:08:49 THAT'S SHOWN ON THE SCREEN THERE.
15:08:51 IF YOU SEE ABOVE THE 35-FOOT MARKER, THE TOP OF THAT WALL IS
15:08:55 NOW GOING INTO THE PURPLE, WHEREAS BEFORE IT WOULDN'T HAVE
15:08:58 BEEN ALLOWED TO GO INTO THE PURPLE SO THAT'S WHERE THE WALLS
15:09:02 ARE GOING CLOSER.
15:09:04 THAT IS THE PROPERTY LINE.
15:09:05 NEXT SLIDE.
15:09:07 IT'S BEEN ASKED WHERE THE 30-FOOT NUMBER CAME FROM AND WHAT
15:09:10 THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT IS.
15:09:11 THE NUMBER IS RELEVANT TO SEVERAL OTHER SECTIONS OF THE
15:09:14 CODE.
15:09:14 THE TOTAL OF 4 RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS REQUIRE A
15:09:17 STEP-UP INCREASE.
15:09:18 THOSE ARE RM-24, RM-35, RM-50 AND RM-75. ALL FOUR DISTRICTS
15:09:22 USE THE 30 FOOT AS THE STARTING POINT FOR THE STEP-UP
15:09:28 INCREASE.
15:09:29 WITH THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT RM-24 WILL BE THE ONLY
15:09:31 MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT THAT REQUIRES THE STEP UP AT 35
15:09:35 RATHER THAN 30.
15:09:36 WHILE THE AMENDMENT WOULD ESTABLISH A MORE CONSISTENT FORM
15:09:38 FOR BUILDINGS IN THE RM THAT MATCH SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING
15:09:41 DISTRICTS, IT ALSO CREATES AN INCONSISTENCY IN THE STEP-UP
15:09:45 INCREASE WHEN COMPARED TO ALL OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT
15:09:47 REQUIRE THE STEP-UP INCREASE.
15:09:50 NEXT SLIDE.
15:09:51 DUE TO THE FLEXIBILITY IN FORM, MASS AND BULK IN THE
15:09:55 EXISTING CODE, THE POTENTIAL OUTCOMES OF THE PROPOSED
15:09:57 AMENDMENT ON INDIVIDUAL SITE DESIGNS ARE BASED UPON PROJECT
15:10:02 SITE SPECIFIC DAYS.
15:10:03 STAFF ESTIMATES THAT THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING ENVELOPE THAT
15:10:06 PURPLE AREA IS RELATIVELY SMALL BUT COULD ALLOW FOR
15:10:08 BUILDINGS WITH A 5 TO 10% LARGER TOTAL FLOOR AREA THAN WHAT
15:10:12 WOULD BE ALLOWED TODAY IN RM-24.
15:10:15 AND WE JUST 2022 NOTE THAT THE MAXIMUM DENSITY OR THE NUMBER
15:10:17 OF UNITS REMAINS UNCHANGED SO THE ADDITIONAL FLOOR AREA
15:10:21 WOULD ONLY PRODUCE LARGER UNITS.
15:10:22 IT WOULD NOT INCREASE OR PROVIDE MORE HOUSING UNITS.
15:10:26 NEXT SLIDE.
15:10:28 STAFF IS NOT EVALUATE BEING ALL THE ASSOCIATED OUTCOMES OF
15:10:32 THIS AMENDMENT.
15:10:35 THIS IS JUST ONE POTENTIAL SCENARIO AND WHERE NO OTHER
15:10:38 CONSTRAINTS EXIST WHICH MAY IMPACT THE DEVELOPABLE AREA. IN
15:10:41 CONSIDERATION OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACT THE RM-24 ZONING
15:10:44 ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 2 .7% OF THE CITY'S LAND AREA.
15:10:49 THEN ONTO ITEM 3, NEXT SLIDE.
15:10:55 THIS IS VISITOR PARKING, ON-STREET FACING.
15:11:00 REQUIRES FOR SEMI-DETACHED, MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOUSE STYLE AND
15:11:03 MULTIFAMILY USES.
15:11:04 THE CODE REQUIRES .25 SPACES PER UNIT.
15:11:07 THE AMENDMENT REMOVES THE REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE VISITOR
15:11:11 PARKING FOR SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI-DETACHED UNITS ONLY.
15:11:16 NEXT SLIDE.
15:11:16 THIS EXEMPLIFIED WHAT THIS DISCREPANCY IS SO BOTH OF THESE
15:11:20 ARE TWO UNIT STRUCTURES.
15:11:22 THE UNIT ON THE LEFT, THEY ARE SIDE BY SIDE, VISITOR PARKING
15:11:25 IS REQUIRED ON-SITE WHICH IS FIVE SPACES.
15:11:27 THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT AGAIN IS TWO UNITS BUT THEY ARE
15:11:30 ORGANIZED ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER RATHER THAN SIDE BY SIDE.
15:11:34 NO VISITOR PARKING IS REQUIRED.
15:11:37 SO WHEN YOU GO TO PUT THE VISITOR SPACE ON THE SITE, WHICH
15:11:40 UNIT?
15:11:43 THAT WAS MADE IN PRIOR PRESENTATIONS.
15:11:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: REPEAT THAT AGAIN, MR. BENSON?
15:11:48 >> YES, SIR.
15:11:48 VISITOR PARKING IS REQUIRED ON-SITE.
15:11:50 THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IT'S NOT REQUIRED ON THE RIGHT.
15:11:53 THAT'S THE DISTINCTION THAT THIS AMENDMENT IS TRYING TO
15:11:56 REMOVE IT FOR THE HIGHLIGHTED SECTION.
15:12:01 TO MAKE THEM CONSISTENT.
15:12:05 BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH DUPLEXES.
15:12:07 THEY BOTH HAVE TWO UNITS ON THE SAME STRUCTURE.
15:12:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
15:12:09 >> NEXT SLIDE.
15:12:13 IN CONSIDERATION OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACT, THE RELEVANT
15:12:16 ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE THE SUBJECT RESIDENTIAL USE IS
15:12:19 ALLOWED OR PERMITTED, ACCOUNTS FOR APPROXIMATELY 6.7% OF THE
15:12:22 TOTAL LAND AREA IN THE CITY.
15:12:25 STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER FURTHER REVIEW AND
15:12:28 UPDATES TO SECTION 27-283 TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL CHANGES AND
15:12:32 PROVIDE GREATER CONSISTENCY IN THE AMOUNT OF PARKING
15:12:34 REQUIRED ON-SITE ACROSS SIMILAR USES SUCH AS THE SPECIFIC
15:12:39 SITUATION.
15:12:40 ONTO ITEM 4, NEXT SLIDE.
15:12:44 THE CURRENT CODE REQUIRES THAT THE MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOUSE
15:12:46 STYLE DESIGNS, THE FRONT ENTRY MUST FACE A STREET
15:12:50 RIGHT-OF-WAY RATHER THAN THE SIDE OR CORNER LOT LINES.
15:12:52 THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT ALLOWS FRONT ENTRANCES FACING THE
15:12:55 COURTYARDS WITHOUT ALTERNATIVE DESIGN APPROVAL BY THE ZONING
15:12:59 ADMINISTRATOR.
15:13:01 AS FAR AS POTENTIAL IMPACT, THE RELEVANT ZONING WHERE THE
15:13:03 SUBJECT USE IS ALLOWABLE ACCOUNTS FOR APPROXIMATELY 6.7% OF
15:13:07 THE CITY'S TOTAL LAND AREA.
15:13:09 NEXT SLIDE.
15:13:12 THESE TWO IMAGES SHOW THE IMPACTS OF THE AMENDMENT, AND
15:13:17 UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE, ELIMINATING
15:13:20 THE REQUIREMENT FOR DOORS TO FACE THE STREET HAS THE
15:13:22 POTENTIAL TO REDUCE THE VISUAL ENGAGEMENT OF THE STREET
15:13:25 FACING FACADE, WHICH IS A COMMON URBAN DESIGN CONCERN THAT
15:13:28 IS TYPICALLY ADDRESSED THROUGH TRANSPARENCY SUCH AS WINDOWS,
15:13:32 OR THROUGH FENESTRATION.
15:13:33 IN OTHER WORDS, THE ARRANGEMENT OF WINDOWS, DOORS AND OTHER
15:13:36 OPENINGS IN A BUILDING.
15:13:38 MINIMUM TRANSPARENCY OR FENESTRATION REQUIREMENTS ARE A TOOL
15:13:42 USED IN SEVERAL EXISTING OVERLAY DISTRICT IN THE CITY TO
15:13:44 ENGAGE THE STREET, CREATE VISUAL INTEREST, AND ENHANCE THE
15:13:47 PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE.
15:13:49 IN ADDITION TO THE BE BENEFITS, TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS
15:13:52 CAN ALSO PROVIDE FOR LIFE SAFETY BENEFITS SUCH AS
15:13:56 INFLUENCING LOWERING MOTORIST SPEEDS ON ADJACENT STREETS AND
15:14:01 THE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR WHAT WE CALL EYES ON THE
15:14:03 STREET WHICH IS A CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL
15:14:06 DESIGN, BEST PRACTICE.
15:14:10 SO THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE EXAMPLE THAT COULD OCCUR
15:14:15 WITH ZONING ADMINISTRATOR APPROVAL TODAY, THAT HAS THE
15:14:21 ENTRANCES FACING THE STREET, AND THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT
15:14:23 SHOWS ENTRANCE NOT FACING THE STREET BUT YOU CAN SEE IT'S A
15:14:27 BIG DITCH BECAUSE OF THE ENTRANCES, BECAUSE.
15:14:29 WINDOWS AND ALL THE OTHER OPENINGS SO IT'S A BIGGER
15:14:31 CONVERSATION THAN JUST WHERE THE ENTRANCE OF THE UNIT IS
15:14:34 PLACED.
15:14:36 THE NEXT SLIDE.
15:14:39 STAFF ROAMS THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER THE DEVELOPMENT MINIMUM
15:14:43 TRANSPARENCY OR FENESTRATION REQUIREMENT IN SECTION 27-282
15:14:47 FOR MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOUSE DESIGN STANDARDS.
15:14:49 NEXT SLIDE.
15:14:51 THIS IS OUR CONCLUSION STATEMENT ABOUT THE COLLECTED IMPACT
15:14:54 OF ALL OF THESE AMENDMENTS THAT WAS REQUESTED AT THE PRIOR
15:14:57 MEETING.
15:14:57 THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT MAY AFFECT HOUSING COSTS IN SO
15:15:00 SITUATIONS.
15:15:01 THE AMENDMENT DOES NOT GUARANTEE, HOWEVER THAT ALL NEW
15:15:03 HOUSING UNITS WILL BE LARGER AND THAT COSTS WILL INCREASE AS
15:15:07 A RESULT.
15:15:07 THE AMENDMENT ALSO ADDRESSES THE NEED FOR SIMILAR PROJECTS
15:15:10 TO REPEATEDLY SEEK WAIVERS IN THE FUTURE.
15:15:12 THIS WOULD REDUCE THE DISCRETIONARY REVIEW PERIOD AND COULD
15:15:17 THUS FACILITATE A TIMELIER RESPONSE FROM THE MARKET IN
15:15:22 PRODUCING MORE UNITS.
15:15:24 RESPECTING BOTH OF THESE TWO PERSPECTIVES THE AMENDMENT
15:15:28 AFFECTS A VERY LIMIT AMOUNT OF LAND CITY-WIDE, THUS STAFF
15:15:32 CONCLUDES THE CUMULATIVE IMPACT OF THE AMENDMENT WOULD
15:15:36 EITHER BE LIMITED OR DE MINIMIS.
15:15:38 THEN JUST TO BE REITERATE THE CODE SECTION THAT WE ARE
15:15:41 RECOMMENDING FOR REVIEW ARE 27-282 AND 27-283.
15:15:44 THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S EVALUATION ON THIS ITEM.
15:15:47 WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
15:15:49 THANK YOU.
15:15:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: QUESTIONS FOR MR. BEN SON?
15:15:54 JUST ONE.
15:15:56 DID YOU RECEIVE AN E-MAIL FROM CITIZENS IN REFERENCE TO
15:15:59 THEIR CONCERNS, A MULTITUDE OF THEM, WHEN THEY LOOKED AT IN
15:16:05 DETAIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE THIS COUNCIL IS MAKING THE
15:16:08 RIGHT DECISION WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT?
15:16:12 >>STEVEN BENSON: YES, SIR.
15:16:13 WE PUT THE RELEVANT POINTS OUT AND INCORPORATED THE ONES
15:16:16 THAT REITERATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN INTO THE POINTS THAT YOU
15:16:19 SAW ON THE SCREEN.
15:16:20 SO THE DIAGRAM WITH THE PURPLE, ALL OF THAT WAS BASED UPON
15:16:22 THE INPUT THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC AND THE
15:16:27 APPLICANT.
15:16:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
15:16:34 WE TAKE THE APPLICANT NOW.
15:16:34 >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
15:16:47 STEVE MICHELINI.
15:16:51 WE ARE THE PETITIONERS ON THIS PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT
15:16:54 REQUEST.
15:16:54 AND I JUST RECEIVED THIS 20 MINUTES AGO OR SO.
15:16:58 SO LET ME JUST GO THROUGH FIRST WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING AND
15:17:06 HOW IT IS EVALUATED.
15:17:09 THE REQUEST CAME OUT OF A NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT WE HAD
15:17:12 WITH STAFF.
15:17:14 THIS WAS A BUILDER ASSOCIATION SERIES OF MEETINGS THAT
15:17:17 STARTED FOUR YEARS AGO, AND THERE WERE A WHOLE LIST.
15:17:22 THERE WERE OVER 90 ITEMS THAT CAME UP AS PART OF THAT
15:17:25 DISCUSSION REGARDING PERMITTING AND PROCESSING THAT WERE TO
15:17:29 BE ADDRESSED.
15:17:31 OVER TIME, THOSE WERE WHITTLED DOWN CONTINUALLY TO THE POINT
15:17:35 WE ARE NOW LEFT WITH FOUR REQUESTS, AND THEY ARE NOT
15:17:42 NECESSARILY IN ANY ORDER TO ESTABLISH 35 FEET AS A STANDARD
15:17:44 FOR THE HEIGHT.
15:17:46 AND THESE ARE TYPICALLY SMALLER DEVELOPMENTS.
15:17:48 THESE ARE NOT HUGE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE TOWERS.
15:17:54 THEY CAME OUT BECAUSE YOU HAD TOWNHOUSE PROJECTS THAT WERE
15:17:59 IN THE RM-24 ZONING CLASSIFICATION, AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE
15:18:04 TO STAIR STEP UP IN ORDER TO GET TO 35 FEET, BUT IF YOU HAD
15:18:07 A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE YOU COULD OBTAIN BY RIGHT.
15:18:10 AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THAT, WHAT'S HAPPENED IS FREQUENTLY WE
15:18:14 ARE COMING INTO CITY COUNCIL AND NOT ASKING FOR RM-24, WE
15:18:18 ARE ASKING FOR RM-18, WHICH HAS A SMALLER FOOTPRINT, SMALLER
15:18:24 SETBACKS, AND YOU CAN BUILD TO 35 FEET BY RIGHT.
15:18:28 SO I AM NOT SURE ABOUT HOW WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE THIS IS
15:18:33 GOING TO HAVE SOME NEGATIVE IMPACT.
15:18:36 ACTUALLY, IT DOES NOT INCREASE THE COST -- I KNOW THERE WERE
15:18:40 SOME COMMENTS ABOUT SOMEHOW AFFECTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
15:18:44 I HAVE EXAMINED THIS THOROUGHLY.
15:18:46 WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS TRY TO
15:18:49 FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH THAT ADVERSELY AFFECTS AFFORDABLE
15:18:51 HOUSING AND NO ONE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW THAT HAPPENED.
15:18:56 AS A RESULT, IT WAS FULLY VETTED BY CITY STAFF NOT ONCE, NOT
15:19:03 TWICE.
15:19:04 THIS IS THE TENTH HEARING THAT WE HAVE HAD INCLUDING THE
15:19:08 NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAT WE HAD SEPARATELY THAT WE WERE
15:19:11 ASKED TO CONDUCT.
15:19:15 THE AREAS THAT ARE AFFECTED FOR THE RM-24 WOULD BE THE SAME
15:19:19 AS IF YOU HAD A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
15:19:22 YOU WOULD NEVER SUGGEST THAT IF YOU BUILT A HOUSE AT 30 FEET
15:19:25 THAT YOU WOULD THEN BE REQUIRED TO ADD ANOTHER 5 FEET OF
15:19:29 SETBACKS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING.
15:19:32 I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THAT ONE.
15:19:33 THE INTENSITY OF THE DESIGN STANDARD THAT MR. BENSON IS
15:19:38 TALKING ABOUT, IF THEY BELONG IN A CODE, YOU ARE INSERTING
15:19:43 DESIGN STANDARDS.
15:19:43 NO ONE THAT I KNOW WOULD EVER BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
15:19:52 WITH NO WINDOWS.
15:19:53 THERE ARE OTHER BUILDING CODES THAT KICK IN.
15:19:56 YOU HAVE LIFE SAFETY CODES.
15:19:57 YOU HAVE TO HAVE MEANS OF EGRESS, DO YOU NOT SEE IT?
15:20:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE SEE IT NOW, YES, SIR.
15:20:05 >>STEVE MICHELINI: BUT THIS IS TYPICALLY WHAT YOU HAVE.
15:20:09 AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERN ABOUT NOT HAVING
15:20:13 FENESTRATION, NOT HAVING WIND OWES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
15:20:16 BUT THERE ARE OTHER BUILDING CODES THAT AFFECT THAT.
15:20:18 AND WHY WOULD YOU EVER DO THAT?
15:20:22 YOU ARE PREVENTING LIGHT, AIR FROM GETTING INTO THE
15:20:24 BUILDING.
15:20:27 I WANT TO AGAIN BRING THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION THAT WE HAD
15:20:30 THIS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT WAS VETTED BY STAFF
15:20:34 AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND FORWARDED TO THE
15:20:37 RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
15:20:39 AGAIN, THE STAFF RECOMMENDED THIS.
15:20:42 THEY HAVE COME BEFORE YOU A NUMBER OF TIMES IN WORKSHOPS AS
15:20:47 WELL AS PUBLIC HEARINGS, RECOMMENDING THE ADOPTION OF THESE
15:20:50 REQUESTS.
15:20:52 LET ME GO THROUGH THE EXACT REQUESTS AND TRY TO EXPLAIN
15:20:57 WHAT'S HAPPENING.
15:21:12 THIS WAS THE LAST TRANSMITTAL THAT YOU HAD, UNTIL WE GOT THE
15:21:29 NEW ONE TODAY.
15:21:31 AND YOU CAN SEE THERE WERE MOST RECENTLY PRESENTED TO YOU
15:21:38 NINE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS COMING TO YOU.
15:21:40 THAT'S NOW DOWN TO FOUR.
15:21:44 THIS IS THE FOOTNOTE ISSUE REGARDING GOING FROM 35 FEET.
15:21:54 NOW YOU CAN MOVE THAT UP.
15:21:57 GOING FROM 35 -- OR 30 FEET TO 35 FEET BEFORE YOU START
15:22:02 STAIR STEPPING.
15:22:03 THAT IS A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL HEIGHT.
15:22:14 THE PARKING SPACES REGARDING THE TOWNHOUSES, REMOVING ONE
15:22:17 PARKING SPACE AND NOT HAVING A VISITOR SPACE FOR TWO UNITS.
15:22:20 IT ONLY APPLIED TO A TWO-UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
15:22:23 AGAIN, THE STAFF HAS EXPLAINED TO YOU, AND I THINK THAT WE
15:22:26 HAVE EXPLAINED TO YOU THAT WITH TWO UNITS IT'S HARD TO
15:22:28 FIGURE OUT WHO CONTROLS, WHO OWNS THAT THIRD PARKING SPACE.
15:22:35 IF IT'S A FEE SIMPLE ISSUE, THEN WHICH ONE OF THE
15:22:38 APARTMENTS, WHICH ONE OF THE SIDES DO YOU ASSIGN THAT TO?
15:22:43 IT REDUCES GREEN SPACE.
15:22:44 SO WE ARE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO ASK FOR GREEN SPACE WAIVERS
15:22:47 FOR VISITOR PARKING SPACE.
15:22:50 THAT DOESN'T ELIMINATE THE ALREADY REQUIRED PARKING SPACES
15:22:54 FOR THE GARAGE AND THE DRIVEWAY.
15:23:03 THIS IS THE COURTYARD ISSUE.
15:23:05 AND I SHOWED YOU A DIAGRAM.
15:23:08 IF WE WANT TO START INSERTING DESIGN STANDARDS CITY-WIDE
15:23:12 THEN ALL OF THE CODES HAVE TO BE REVIEWED FOR THAT, NOT JUST
15:23:15 THIS ONE.
15:23:16 BUT ANYWAY, WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT YOU BE
15:23:19 ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
15:23:21 THERE ARE OTHER BUILDING CODES THAT MATCH FENESTRATION.
15:23:33 AND HERE IS A LISTING OF ALL THE DIFFERENT MEETINGS THAT WE
15:23:36 HAVE HAD.
15:23:39 THE PUBLIC OUTREACH PROGRAM OF THAT WE TALKED TO FOR OVER
15:23:42 TWO HOURS, JUNE 14th.
15:23:45 WE ALSO HAD OTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.
15:23:47 THIS IS THE TENTH HEARING THAT WE HAVE HAD REGARDING THIS
15:23:51 ISSUE.
15:23:52 AGAIN, THEY HAVE BEEN REFINED.
15:23:54 AND WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT REASONABLE
15:23:58 CONSIDERING THE CODE.
15:23:59 SO WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DESIGN
15:24:01 EXCEPTION?
15:24:02 AND WE SUBMITTED PROBABLY OVER 100 OF THEM.
15:24:06 THEY ARE APPROVED.
15:24:07 NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN DISAPPROVED.
15:24:10 IT ADDS COSTS.
15:24:12 IT ADDS ANOTHER 60, 75 DAYS TO THE PROCESS, AND YOU ALL HAVE
15:24:18 BEEN HEARING ABOUT THE CRITICAL NEED FOR HOUSING.
15:24:21 IT DELAYS THAT PROCESS, AND IT SENDS YOU INTO ANOTHER
15:24:24 PROCESS BEFORE YOU CAN GET YOUR PERMIT.
15:24:27 SO WE ARE ASKING FOR RELIEF FROM THAT.
15:24:31 IF IT WERE CONTENTIOUS.
15:24:34 THE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS WERE NOT BEING GRANTED, IT WOULDN'T BE
15:24:37 AN ISSUE AND WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT
15:24:41 IT AND WE GO THROUGH THE PRO OTHER SEES, WITH A REZONING OR
15:24:45 WITH A DESIGN EXCEPTION.
15:24:49 WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT ELIMINATING THE CALCULATION, THIS IS
15:24:57 THE CALCULATION THAT'S OUTLINED AND HIGHLIGHTED IN D.
15:25:02 WE ASKED THREE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS INCLUDING ERIC COTTON,
15:25:06 GLORIA MOREDA WHEN SHE WAS HERE, MYSELF, AND OTHER BUILDERS,
15:25:11 WE COULDN'T EVER COME UP WITH THE SAME DIMENSION THAT THE
15:25:15 BUILDINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SEPARATED BY.
15:25:17 NOW, THIS IS A MECHANISM SETBACK AT 15 FEET.
15:25:20 AND IF YOU GO HIGHER, ACCORDING TO THE LIFE SAFETY CODE, YOU
15:25:24 HAVE TO INCREASE THAT HEIGHT.
15:25:26 THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BUILDING.
15:25:28 SO THIS DOESN'T RELIEVE ANY OF THESE BUILDINGS FROM MEETING
15:25:31 OTHER CODES.
15:25:33 IT SIMPLY ESTABLISHES A STANDARD, AND IT SAYS, OKAY, YOU ARE
15:25:36 GOING TO HAVE A MINIMUM SETBACK OF 15 FEET AND YOU HAVES TO
15:25:39 BE SAY, HOW DO WE GET TO 15 FEET?
15:25:42 IT PROVIDED FOR A 5-FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK AND 5 FEET OF
15:25:45 LANDSCAPING OR GREEN SPACE ON EACH SIDE.
15:25:48 THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THE 15 FEET.
15:25:49 AND THAT WAS THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FROM GLORIA MOREDA.
15:25:52 WE DIDN'T JUST DREAM THIS UP.
15:25:56 WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF HOW IT DELAYS THE
15:26:01 PROCESS.
15:26:03 IF YOU LOOK AT THE COURTYARD SCENARIO, AND I AM JUST GOING
15:26:08 TO THROW THIS OUT, NOT THAT YOU COULD BUY A LOT FOR
15:26:11 $100,000, BUT IF YOU BOUGHT A LOT FOR $100,000 AND YOU HAD
15:26:15 FOUR UNITS, THAT'S $25,000 FOR EACH OF THE LAND PARCELS.
15:26:21 IF YOU HAVE $100,000 AND YOU CAN ONLY BUILD TWO, THAT'S
15:26:25 $50,000 PER UNIT.
15:26:27 LAND COST.
15:26:29 SO WITH RESPECT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT ACTUALLY MAKES --
15:26:34 IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE IF YOU ALLOW INTERIOR COURTYARDS TO
15:26:39 EXIST AS OPPOSED TO IN THE LINEAR PICTURE THAT I SHOWED YOU
15:26:42 THAT STAFF HAD.
15:26:46 IF YOU ONLY HAD THESE TWO BUILDINGS, YOU WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED
15:26:49 TO BUILD ANY OF THE SIDE UNITS GOING DOWN TO THE COURTYARD.
15:26:55 SO THAT'S THE RELIEF THAT'S BEING SOUGHT.
15:26:59 I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
15:27:01 AND AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN THOROUGHLY VETTED THROUGH THE
15:27:05 ENTIRE PROCESS.
15:27:07 THERE WEREN'T ANY SECRETS IN HERE.
15:27:09 THIS WAS NOT DESIGNED TO SOMEHOW SUBVERT THE CODE.
15:27:12 THESE ARE TYPICAL ISSUES THAT GO BEFORE THE CITY PLANNING
15:27:15 OFFICE AND THE CITY ZONING OFFICE.
15:27:18 THE REQUEST FOR RELIEF EITHER FOR REZONING OR THROUGH A
15:27:22 DESIGN EXCEPTION.
15:27:23 AND THIS HELPS TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS AND OFFERS YOU
15:27:27 ELIMINATION OF A 60 TO 75-DAY DELAY, PLUS THE FILING AND
15:27:32 DESIGN FEES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
15:27:36 SO I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
15:27:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
15:27:42 ALL RIGHT.
15:27:43 ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
15:27:51 >>THE CLERK: YES, I HAVE MS. STROHMEYER.
15:27:54 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
15:27:56 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
15:27:57 >> JEAN STROHMEYER: OKAY.
15:28:03 YOU CAN HEAR ME?
15:28:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU, JEAN.
15:28:06 >> OKAY.
15:28:07 SO I WAS LISTENING TO MR. MICHELINI HERE AND HAVE DIFFERENT
15:28:12 POINTS TO MAKE.
15:28:14 JUST BECAUSE STAFF REFERS TO SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN AT THIS
15:28:17 TIME RIGHT THING.
15:28:24 A GIANT APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THAT WASN'T A BIG THING TO DO.
15:28:28 IT WASN'T THEIR FAULT.
15:28:29 BUT AGAIN, THEY DON'T NOTICE WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW SOMETIMES.
15:28:33 SO I HAVE QUITE A FEW LETTERS WRITTEN INTO THE FILE SO I AM
15:28:40 NOT GOING TO INTO THAT.
15:28:42 I KNOW -- SENT SOME STUFF, AND MR. MICHELINI SAYS 9 TO 4,
15:28:52 THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT STILL THE BEST THING TO BE DO FOR OUR
15:28:54 NEIGHBORHOOD.
15:28:57 OH, AND HE SHOWED A PICTURE, THEY SHOWED A PICTURE OF ALL
15:29:03 THAT BUT I KNOW IN THE LAST MEETING, MS. POYNOR SHOWED A
15:29:06 PICTURE THAT SHOWED US THE TOP OF THE BEFORE, AND STARTED
15:29:13 GOING HALFWAY UP THE OTHER BUILDING NEXT TO IT.
15:29:16 SO THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A GOOD SOLID ARGUMENT.
15:29:20 LET'S SEE, WE HAVE -- OH, TALKING ABOUT DESIGN STANDARDS
15:29:24 THAT WE SHOULD HAVE CITY-WIDE, BUT ALL OF HYDE PARK ISN'T
15:29:31 NEW TAMPA, AND WE CAN'T HAVE THE SAME DESIGN IN OLD HYDE
15:29:33 PARK AS WE DO IN SOUTH TAMPA OR WHATEVER, SO THAT'S NOT
15:29:43 GOOD.
15:29:43 AGAIN I SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, IT'S THE FOX
15:29:48 MINDING THE HEN HOUSE.
15:29:49 I WOULDN'T WANT THE FOX ANYWHERE NEAR.
15:29:52 SO LASTLY, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD PROBABLY WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE
15:30:00 SOMEBODY TO TAKE THE POSITION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
15:30:03 MR. DINGFELDER WAS TOLD TO SHUT UP.
15:30:05 AND HE WAS TOLD ON THE RECORD, IF YOU ALL WILL RECALL IN
15:30:08 CITY COUNCIL BY ONE OF THESE DEVELOPERS GUYS, THEY TOLD HIM
15:30:11 TO ACTUALLY SHUT UP, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER THE HOTLINE MOMENT,
15:30:15 AND WE DIDN'T APPRECIATE THAT.
15:30:16 SO GUIDING THE HEN HOUSE, AND WE HAVE GOT SOMEBODY WHO WAS
15:30:23 PART OF THIS ISSUE RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK THIS NEITHER NEEDS
15:30:27 TO MAYBE START OVER AGAIN.
15:30:28 AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
15:30:33 ALL RIGHT, HAVE A GREAT DAY.
15:30:34 >>THE CLERK: THE OTHER SPEAKER WE HAVE WAS STEPHANIE
15:30:39 POYNOR.
15:30:40 AGAIN SHE IS NOT LOGGED ON AT THIS TIME.
15:30:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
15:30:42 ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
15:30:47 >> I REPRESENT THE TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.
15:30:56 WE ARE 1100 MEMBERS STRONG, AND WE REPRESENT ALL SEGMENTS OF
15:31:01 THE INDUSTRY THAT PROVIDE THE AMERICAN DREAM OF HOME
15:31:04 OWNERSHIP.
15:31:06 FRANKLY, I WAS PLANNING ON COMING HERE AND SUPPORTING THIS
15:31:09 ITEM, AND I THOUGHT EVERYTHING WOULD BE FANTASTIC AND WE
15:31:14 WOULD HAVE A NICE EASY TIME.
15:31:15 BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE.
15:31:18 SO I WILL JUST GO AHEAD AND LET YOU KNOW AS THE ONLY PAID
15:31:21 PERSON WORKING ON BEHALF OF THIS ORGANIZATION AND ITS
15:31:25 MEMBERS, THESE TWO GUYS SPENT AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME, BLOOD
15:31:29 SWEAT AND TEARS, DOING THE WORK OF A VOLUNTEER MEMBER TO
15:31:34 HELP ENGAGE THE BUILDING COMMUNITY AND HELP BRING FORWARD
15:31:38 SOME THINGS THAT WERE WOULD STREAMLINE THE PROCESS.
15:31:41 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE STAFF FOR
15:31:44 MANY YEARS.
15:31:45 EVERY SINGLE MONTH, TBBA MEETS WITH THE CITY STAFF TO
15:31:49 DISCUSS POLICY AND PROCESSION ISSUES RELATED TO THE BUILDING
15:31:53 CODE.
15:31:53 THIS IS ALL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
15:31:55 SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND, AND FRANKLY I RESPECT THE CONCERNS OF
15:32:00 THE COMMUNITY, IT'S REAL SIMPLE, GUYS.
15:32:04 THERE'S ONLY FOUR COMPONENTS TO BUILDING A HOUSE.
15:32:08 MATERIALS, LABOR, LAND, AND LOCAL REGULATIONS.
15:32:12 YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CONTROL ANY OF THOSE EXCEPT
15:32:16 LOCAL REGULATIONS.
15:32:17 I HAVE GOT TRUST PACKAGES THAT HAVE INCREASED $30,000 A WEEK
15:32:22 EVERY SINGLE WEEK FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
15:32:26 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THAT.
15:32:27 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO ADDRESSING LAND COSTS.
15:32:29 AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO MOVE TO TAMPA BAY, BUILD A HOUSE,
15:32:32 HAVE A POOL PUT IN.
15:32:33 THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.
15:32:35 SO ALL WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS COME FORWARD IN GOOD FAITH AND
15:32:39 PRESENT THINGS THAT THE STAFF AGREES WITH AND THAT MOST
15:32:42 REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN AGREE WITH SO THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH
15:32:45 THIS PROCESS AS QUICKLY AND PAINLESSLY AS POSSIBLE.
15:32:49 BUT I WILL NEVER HAVE THESE GUYS COME BEFORE US AGAIN IF
15:32:51 THIS IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO BUSINESS BECAUSE THIS HAS
15:32:53 BEEN WORKED ON FOR FOUR YEARS.
15:32:56 THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN OFF MY BOARD FOR FOUR YEARS.
15:33:00 LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING.
15:33:01 I BEG OF YOU.
15:33:02 IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN SCRAP THE WHOLE THING, BUT WE ARE
15:33:06 NOT GOING TO DO THIS AGAIN.
15:33:07 I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, GENTLEMEN, VERY MUCH.
15:33:09 THANK YOU.
15:33:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
15:33:18 >> FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE
15:33:23 TIME YOU GUYS PUT IN, AND IT'S CHALLENGING.
15:33:29 SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
15:33:32 PROBABLY SAID FOUR YEARS AGO, GLORIA MOREDA AND TEN YEARS
15:33:36 AGO SITTING ON THE ECC COMMITTEE, THE ECONOMIC COMPETITIVE
15:33:42 COMMITTEE LIKE THE PREVIOUS MAYOR HAD PUT ON, I WAS ON THAT
15:33:45 BOARD, AND THE IDEA WAS TO COME UP WITH IDEAS THAT WOULD
15:33:48 MAKE THIS CITY MORE COMPETITIVE WHEN PEOPLE THINK ABOUT
15:33:52 OTHER CITIES, LET'S STREAMLINE.
15:33:56 I HAVE SEEN LIKE PICTURES OF A ALL THE RULES, REGULATIONS OF
15:34:02 THE CITY OF TAMPA, A STACK THIS MUCH IS CHAPTER 27 IN THE
15:34:06 CODE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
15:34:08 THE ZONING CODES ARE VERY, VERY COMPLEX AND IF THAT ISN'T
15:34:15 PERFECT THEN WE ARE GONE.
15:34:16 SO THE IDEA HOW DO WE TWEAK SOME THINGS TO MAKE STAFF MORE
15:34:20 EFFICIENT, GET PERMITS MORE EFFICIENT WITHOUT AFFECTING
15:34:24 NEIGHBORHOODS AND THAT WAS THE IDEA.
15:34:25 GLAD YOU SAID THE WORD NAIVE BECAUSE I THOUGHT NAIVE WAS A
15:34:29 SIMPLE THING, LIKE THE TREE FUND, PCC FOLKS, SEE SOMETHING,
15:34:38 TREE SOMETHING, DOZENS AND DOZENS TRYING TO GET THE TREE
15:34:42 CODE REDONE.
15:34:43 THAT WAS ALL VOLUNTEER WORK.
15:34:45 AND WE WANT TO MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA BETTER, AND THESE ARE
15:34:50 NOT DONE TO SLIP SOMETHING IN, OR SOME JOB SPECIFIC THING,
15:34:58 THAT WOULD MAKE THE CITY MORE EFFICIENT AND STAFF MORE
15:35:03 EFFICIENT, AND RESPECTFULLY HOPE YOU APPROVE TODAY.
15:35:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:35:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
15:35:18 MR. MANISCALCO MOVED TO CLOSE, MR. VIERA SECOND.
15:35:23 MR. CITRO?
15:35:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE NUMBER E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27, ORDINANCE
15:35:33 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
15:35:36 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO A
15:35:39 PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT, MAKING REVISIONS TO THE
15:35:44 CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27, ZONING AND LAND
15:35:48 DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING SECTION 27-156, OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF
15:35:55 DISTRICT REGULATIONS, AMENDING SECTION 27-126, YARDS BETWEEN
15:36:02 RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, AMENDING SECTION 27-282.10,
15:36:08 MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOUSE-STYLE DESIGN STANDARDS, AMENDING
15:36:13 SECTION 27-283.7, NUMBER OF OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES,
15:36:20 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
15:36:25 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR
15:36:29 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
15:36:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
15:36:33 ROLL CALL.
15:36:34 >>BILL CARLSON: I PREVIOUSLY STATED MY REASONS FOR VOTING
15:36:39 NO AND WILL VOTE NO AGAIN.
15:36:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
15:36:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
15:36:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
15:36:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
15:36:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES?
15:36:48 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
15:36:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 64.
15:36:54 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
15:36:59 ITEM NUMBER 64 IS REZ 21-104 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
15:37:04 READING AND ADOPTION, FOR 6907 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE.
15:37:08 THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
15:37:11 RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
15:37:19 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY USES.
15:37:22 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AT CITY HALL YESTERDAY.
15:37:25 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
15:37:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. BARNES?
15:37:31 ALL RIGHT.
15:37:32 THE APPLICANT?
15:37:33 >> MY NAME IS YONI WASSER, 400 ASHLEY DRIVE AND I REPRESENT
15:37:42 THE APPLICANTS ON THIS ITEM.
15:37:44 OUT OF RESPECT FOR COUNCIL'S BUSINESS DAY I WILL KEEP THIS
15:37:46 VERY BRIEF.
15:37:47 THIS REZONING RECEIVED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL BACK ON FEBRUARY
15:37:50 24.
15:37:51 SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED ALL REQUESTED
15:37:53 MODIFICATIONS.
15:37:55 I THOUGHT I NEEDED TO THAN SWORN IN.
15:37:57 GO AHEAD.
15:37:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
15:38:01 ANYONE THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, SWEAR THEM?
15:38:05 ALL RIGHT.
15:38:06 ANYBODY ELSE, SIR?
15:38:07 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
15:38:10 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
15:38:13 >> I DO.
15:38:17 AS I WAS SAYING, WE SEEK UNANIMOUS APPROVAL ON FEBRUARY
15:38:20 24th.
15:38:20 SINCE THEN WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED ALL REQUESTED MODIFICATIONS
15:38:23 INCLUDING CLEANING UP OUR SITE PLAN AS WELL AS ADDING A
15:38:26 VARIETY OF TRANSPORTATION NOTES.
15:38:28 WE ARE HERE TO RECEIVE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL AGAIN TODAY.
15:38:30 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
15:38:32 THANK YOU.
15:38:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF THE GENTLEMAN?
15:38:34 ALL RIGHT.
15:38:35 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
15:38:39 ANYONE REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM?
15:38:40 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
15:38:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED IT.
15:38:44 MR. CITRO SECOND IT.
15:38:46 ALL IN FAVOR?
15:38:47 OPPOSED?
15:38:47 MOTION GRANTED.
15:38:48 MR. VIERA.
15:38:51 64, SIR.
15:38:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
15:38:56 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AN
15:38:59 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 6907 NORTH
15:39:02 NEBRASKA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
15:39:04 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
15:39:06 CLASSIFICATION SH-RS SEMINOLE HEIGHTS RESIDENTIAL
15:39:09 SINGLE-FAMILY TO SH-CI SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE
15:39:13 TO SH-PD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL
15:39:16 MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
15:39:17 >> SECOND.
15:39:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
15:39:23 ROLL CALL.
15:39:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
15:39:25 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
15:39:26 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
15:39:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
15:39:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
15:39:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
15:39:32 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING
15:39:34 ABSENT AT VOTE.
15:39:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 65.
15:39:42 OH, BONUS PROVISION.
15:39:47 CITRO, MANISCALCO.
15:39:49 MOTION GRANTED.
15:39:51 ITEM 65.
15:39:52 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
15:39:56 ITEM NUMBER 65 IS AB 2-21-31 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
15:40:01 READING AND ADOPTION, 401 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE TO ALLOW THE
15:40:06 SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR SMALL VENUE BEER, WINE,
15:40:10 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY, SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AT
15:40:13 CITY HALL YESTERDAY, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF
15:40:16 NEEDED.
15:40:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. BARNES?
15:40:19 SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT?
15:40:23 >> JIM PORTER WITH ACKERMAN, I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN.
15:40:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
15:40:30 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
15:40:31 >> JIM PORTER: I DO.
15:40:34 WE ARE HERE FOR SECOND READING.
15:40:36 WE AMENDED THE SITE PLAN TO PROHIBIT OUTDOOR MUSIC.
15:40:41 WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR APPROVAL.
15:40:45 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
15:40:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
15:40:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I MISSED -- THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR
15:40:51 STAFF.
15:40:53 IS IT OUTSIDE AMPLIFIED MUSIC OR SOUND?
15:40:57 >> MUSIC.
15:40:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MUSIC.
15:40:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, THAT'S THE QUESTION.
15:41:06 >> I THOUGHT COUNCIL'S INTENT WAS -- WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO
15:41:15 THE NOISE SOUND.
15:41:16 MS. BARNES MAY SPEAK TO THAT.
15:41:18 BUT WE WERE -- A CITIZEN REQUESTED THAT AT THE FIRST READING
15:41:23 AND WE COMPLIED WITH THAT.
15:41:26 THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD COUNCIL'S INTENT TO BE.
15:41:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS MS. BARNES ON LINE?
15:41:33 IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST WANTED A CLARIFICATION
15:41:36 FOR CONSISTENCY.
15:41:42 THE SITE PLAN WAS DELIVERED FOR SOUND, I GUESS.
15:41:45 I JUST WANTED --
15:41:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MRS. BARNES?
15:41:53 THERE SHE IS.
15:41:54 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
15:41:59 I AM PULLING UP THE SITE PLAN NOW.
15:42:24 THE SITE PLAN SAYS NO OUTDOOR MUSIC SHALL BE ALLOWED
15:42:28 ON-SITE.
15:42:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ?
15:42:36 SINCE WE ARE SPEAKING OF HYPOTHETICALS TODAY, I HAVE BEEN TO
15:42:42 MANY A BINGO HALL WHERE IT GETS LOUD BECAUSE OF AMPLIFIED
15:42:47 CALLING OF NUMBERS.
15:42:49 I HAVE BEEN TO AUCTION HOUSES WHERE IT GETS AWFUL LOUD.
15:42:52 NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN A BAR-RESTAURANT.
15:42:55 BUT IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AMPLIFIED MUSIC AND
15:42:58 AMPLIFIED SOUND?
15:42:59 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
15:43:01 I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION, BUT I THINK
15:43:04 CERTAINLY MUSIC IS ENCOMPASSED WITHIN SOUND, BUT THERE COULD
15:43:10 BE OTHER SOUNDS --
15:43:13 >> JIM PORTER: I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE WORD SOUND.
15:43:16 I WAS JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.
15:43:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW DID THAT BE DONE BEFORE SECOND
15:43:24 READING?
15:43:25 IS THAT POSSIBLE?
15:43:30 IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
15:43:32 I DON'T HAVE A POSITION.
15:43:34 >> I THINK I UNDERSTOOD COUNCIL'S INTENT AT THE LAST
15:43:36 MEETING.
15:43:37 WE CHOSE THE WORD MUSIC BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT YOU
15:43:39 WANTED.
15:43:40 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR,
15:43:43 CHANGE THE SITE PLAN TO SOUND.
15:43:44 I JUST DON'T WANT FOR THE SAKE OF A CLIENT TO BE DELAYED
15:43:47 BECAUSE OF A WORD, THAT WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO.
15:43:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS MAY BE SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANT TO TALK
15:43:59 ABOUT IN THE FUTURE.
15:44:02 ESPECIALLY UNDER THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
15:44:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANYTHING OVER A CERTAIN DECIBEL.
15:44:11 >> AND THIS IS A SMALL VENUE TEN TEETH SEAT RESTAURANT.
15:44:16 I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN CITROO CONCERN.
15:44:18 THE SPACE ISN'T THERE TO DO BINGO AND IT'S NOT THAT TYPE OF
15:44:21 EVENT.
15:44:21 SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
15:44:23 I THINK THE RISK TO ANY SORT OF VIOLATION IS VERY SMALL.
15:44:28 BUT WHATEVER COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS.
15:44:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT CAN BE USED FOR MOST JUST SINGING.
15:44:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS MOVING FORWARD, WE MIGHT WANT
15:44:43 TO --
15:44:47 [ LAUGHTER ]
15:44:49 OKAY, THANK YOU, MR. PORTER, FOR THAT.
15:44:51 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. PORTER?
15:44:53 ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
15:44:55 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
15:44:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO ONE ELSE IN THE HOUSE.
15:45:00 OKAY.
15:45:02 MOVE TO CLOSE MANISCALCO, SECOND MIRANDA.
15:45:04 ALL IN FAVOR?
15:45:05 ANY OPPOSED?
15:45:06 MOTION GRANTED.
15:45:11 MR. MIRANDA?
15:45:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL TAKE IT.
15:45:16 ITEM NUMBER 65, FILE AB 2-21-31.
15:45:21 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
15:45:23 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOL
15:45:27 BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY
15:45:30 AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT
15:45:33 CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 401 SOUTH
15:45:36 HOWARD AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
15:45:39 IN SECTION 2 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
15:45:42 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
15:45:45 DATE.
15:45:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
15:45:49 ROLL CALL.
15:45:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
15:45:52 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
15:45:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
15:45:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
15:45:55 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
15:45:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CHANGED MINE TO YES BECAUSE OF THE SITE
15:46:01 PLAN.
15:46:02 YES.
15:46:02 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
15:46:04 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
15:46:05 FROM NOW ON, SOUND ONLY, NO MUSIC.
15:46:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 66.
15:46:10 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
15:46:16 AB 2-22-01.
15:46:18 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION FOR 2301
15:46:22 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE FOR SPECIAL USE 2, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
15:46:25 SALES, LARGE VENUE, BEER AND WINE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES,
15:46:30 SALE OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
15:46:34 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TO CITY HALL.
15:46:37 I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
15:46:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MRS. BARNES?
15:46:40 ALL RIGHT.
15:46:41 WE HAVE AN ADVOCATE, SWORN IN, PLEASE?
15:46:45 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
15:46:47 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
15:46:48 >> YES.
15:46:55 GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
15:46:57 MY NAME IS KI-MAI REPRESENTING PETITIONER, THE SPECIAL USE
15:47:04 REQUEST TO ALLOW FOR SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR LIVE
15:47:07 VENUE, BEER AND WINE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES IN PACKAGE
15:47:10 SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
15:47:15 THE PROJECT LOCATION IS IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.
15:47:20 AB SALES IS 5,922 SQUARE FEET INDOORS, AND THE PROJECT SITE
15:47:26 IS FOR A WINE TASTING BAR, OFFICES, WINE PRODUCTION AND
15:47:31 PACKAGING, WINE AGING STORAGE WITH WHOLESALE AND FAMILY
15:47:36 OWNED AND OPERATED BY WINE STREAM INCORPORATED.
15:47:38 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF THE
15:47:41 SPECIAL USE.
15:47:41 THANK YOU.
15:47:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
15:47:45 ALL RIGHT.
15:47:46 ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM?
15:47:48 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
15:47:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
15:47:52 MOVE TO CLOSE?
15:47:54 MR. MANISCALCO, SECOND BY MIRANDA.
15:47:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
15:47:58 OPPOSED?
15:47:59 MOTION GRANTED.
15:48:03 MR. CARLSON.
15:48:03 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE AB 2-22-01,
15:48:09 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
15:48:11 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR
15:48:14 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES LARGE VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES
15:48:17 AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION AND MAKING LAWFUL
15:48:20 THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT
15:48:24 OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 2301 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE TAMPA,
15:48:28 FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2
15:48:30 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
15:48:32 CONFLICT ARE REPEALED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
15:48:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
15:48:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
15:48:37 ROLL CALL.
15:48:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
15:48:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
15:48:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
15:48:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
15:48:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
15:48:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
15:48:48 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO AND GUDES VOTING NO.
15:48:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 67.
15:48:53 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
15:48:57 ITEM NUMBER 67 IS AB 2-22-02 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
15:49:02 READING AND ADOPTION, FOR 601 SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD
15:49:06 FOR SPECIAL USE 2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE
15:49:10 BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
15:49:13 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY
15:49:17 QUESTIONS.
15:49:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. BARNES?
15:49:21 ALL RIGHT.
15:49:23 AN APPLICANT?
15:49:29 ALL RIGHT.
15:49:31 RAISE YOUR HAND, BE SWORN IN, SIR.
15:49:33 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
15:49:35 >> KEVIN REALI, FOR THE RECORD, FOR THE APPLICANT, AND JUST
15:49:46 HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
15:49:48 ALL OF THE REQUESTED SITE PLAN CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND
15:49:51 SECOND READING HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND WE RESPECTFULLY
15:49:54 REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
15:49:55 THANK YOU.
15:49:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
15:50:00 ALL RIGHT.
15:50:02 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
15:50:04 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
15:50:05 >>THE CLERK: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
15:50:13 MOTION GRANTED.
15:50:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AB 2-22-02, I HAVE AN ORDINANCE
15:50:18 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
15:50:20 APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
15:50:23 SALES LARGE VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING
15:50:26 LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC
15:50:28 CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR
15:50:32 TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 601 SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD,
15:50:36 TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2
15:50:39 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
15:50:41 CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
15:50:43 >> SECOND.
15:50:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
15:50:46 ROLL CALL VOTE.
15:50:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
15:50:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
15:50:50 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
15:50:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
15:50:53 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
15:50:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
15:50:55 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO AND GUDES VOTING NO.
15:50:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 68?
15:51:03 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
15:51:05 ITEM NUMBER 68 IS MUCH AB 2-20-11 PLACED ON THE AGENDA
15:51:10 PURSUANT TO COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE DUE TO A 3-3 TIE VOTE
15:51:13 ON FEBRUARY 24, 2022.
15:51:16 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SPECIAL USE 2 FOR ALCOHOLIC
15:51:22 BEVERAGE SALES FOR SMALL VENUE BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR,
15:51:25 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES, 703
15:51:31 NORTH WILLOW AVENUE.
15:51:32 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
15:51:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY?
15:51:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
15:51:38 IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON NUMBER 68?
15:51:41 ARE THEY AVAILABLE?
15:51:53 YOU ARE SEE NO ONE THERE.
15:51:55 IF THE APPLICANT WITH WERE HERE, THIS IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC
15:51:57 HEARING, AND CONTINUED TO A DATE AND TIME CERTAIN.
15:52:02 CERTAINLY IF THERE'S ANOTHER 3-3 TIE THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO
15:52:04 BE CONTINUED.
15:52:07 IT APPEARS THAT'S THE SITUATION.
15:52:10 WITHOUT THE APPLICANT, THE QUESTION IS, HOW IS HE ABLE TO BE
15:52:15 AWARE OF WHEN THIS IS BEING CONTINUED TO?
15:52:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SUSAN JOHNSON ALVAREZ?
15:52:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK IN TERMS OF NOTICE, IT IS A
15:52:27 NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING AND IT'S BEEN CONTINUED.
15:52:37 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
15:52:38 WHEN THIS WAS CONTINUED, AT YOUR FIRST READING, THE DATE AND
15:52:45 TIME WAS ANNOUNCED FOR TODAY.
15:52:49 CORRECT.
15:52:49 SO I AM NOT SURE WHY THE APPLICANT IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR CITY
15:52:54 COUNCIL HEARING.
15:52:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD IT BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR STAFF TO
15:52:59 REACH OUT?
15:53:01 OTHERWISE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE RENOTICED, AND THAT WOULD
15:53:04 SLOW THINGS DOWN.
15:53:06 I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD KNOW WHEN
15:53:09 IT'S BEING CONTINUED TO.
15:53:10 IF THE APPLICANT WERE HERE --
15:53:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, MS. BARNES IS TRYING TO GET IN
15:53:18 TOUCH.
15:53:18 >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
15:53:20 SO THE APPLICANT AND AGENT, WHEN IT WAS ANNOUNCED FEBRUARY
15:53:28 24th, 2022 HEARING, THAT IT WAS A TYPO AND WOULD BE
15:53:33 CONTINUED TO THIS DATE AT HEARING.
15:53:35 SO THEY KNEW THAT THIS MEETING WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
15:53:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO IT RAISES A QUESTION IF THIS GETS
15:53:45 CONTINUED NOW, AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE, HOW WOULD WE
15:53:49 BE ABLE TO ASSURE THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF WHAT COUNCIL'S
15:53:52 ACTION IS TODAY?
15:53:53 >>BILL CARLSON: ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS BESIDES CONTINUING
15:53:58 OR IS THAT THE ONLY OPTION?
15:54:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNLESS SOMEBODY CHANGES THEIR VOTE.
15:54:03 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: IF SOMEBODY CHANGES THEIR VOTE AND
15:54:08 YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT RESULT.
15:54:10 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE LIKE A FOR FIT OR SOMETHING?
15:54:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDER THE CODE, I HAVEN'T CHECKED
15:54:16 RECENTLY, BUT I GUESS THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
15:54:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN WE JUST CONTINUE THE ITEM?
15:54:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD WE REQUEST THE STAFF NOTIFY THE
15:54:29 APPLICANT OF THE NEW DATE?
15:54:32 HERE IS A QUESTION, COUNCIL.
15:54:33 THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS APRIL 7th, BUT THAT WOULD BE
15:54:37 THE LITERAL FIRST DAY OF THE TENTATIVE TIMELINE OF THE
15:54:41 7th COUNCIL MEMBERS.
15:54:42 THE NEXT DATE AFTER THAT IS FEBRUARY 21st.
15:54:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO APRIL
15:54:48 21st.
15:54:50 WE'LL DO IT AT 10:30 A.M. AS IT'S ALREADY SET, AND THAT WE
15:54:53 NOTIFY THE APPLICANT SO THEY ARE AWARE OF THIS.
15:54:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
15:55:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED IT MR. VIERA SECOND
15:55:07 IT.
15:55:07 ALL IN FAVOR?
15:55:08 MOTION GRANTED.
15:55:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
15:55:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 69.
15:55:15 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
15:55:19 RON WIGGINTON LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
15:55:21 ITEM NUMBER 69 IS AN APPLICATION TO VACATE AN ALLEYWAY BY
15:55:24 MAKO CAR WASH LOCATE IT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4438
15:55:28 KENNEDY BOULEVARD, AND THIS IS THE FIRST READING.
15:55:31 AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WIDE LATITUDE IS AFFORDED TO CITY
15:55:36 COUNCIL IN MAKING THE DECISION TO APPROVE OR DENIAL THE
15:55:38 APPLICATION, AND THE FACTORS TO CONSIDER WHEN DETERMINING
15:55:42 WHETHER IT'S IN THE PUBLIC'S BEST INTEREST TO VACATE INCLUDE
15:55:46 WHETHER IT WILL RELIEVE THE PUBLIC FROM THE COST OF
15:55:48 MAINTAINING THE ALLEYWAY, WHETHER IT WILL ALLEVIATE A PUBLIC
15:55:51 NUISANCE SUCH AS ILLEGAL DUMPING, WHETHER IT OCCUR TAILS
15:55:55 CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, WHETHER IT WILL FOSTER OR HINDER
15:55:58 REDEVELOPMENT OF THE ABUTTED PROPERTIES, AND WHETHER IT WILL
15:56:01 CUT OFF OR SUBSTANTIALLY DIMINISH ACCESS TO THE PROPERTIES.
15:56:05 MR. ROSS SALMON IS AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY TO PROVIDE HIS
15:56:08 REPORT.
15:56:09 AND I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS.
15:56:12 THANK YOU.
15:56:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
15:56:16 ROSS?
15:56:21 SHE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
15:56:21 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
15:56:23 >> I WOULD ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
15:56:36 CAN COUNCIL SEE MY SCREEN?
15:56:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
15:56:55 WE GOT IT NOW.
15:56:55 >>ROSS SAMMONS: OKAY.
15:57:02 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION PRESENTING FILE VAC-21-18.
15:57:10 THE PROPOSED REQUEST TO VACATE THE ALLEYWAY SOUTH OF JOHN F.
15:57:15 KENNEDY BOULEVARD, EAST OF HESPERIDES AVENUE, THIS ALLEY WAS
15:57:20 CREATED FOR SUBDIVISION PLAT, SUBDIVISION.
15:57:24 LOCATED IN SOUTH TAMPA, AND THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
15:57:28 THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED 9-20-21.
15:57:32 THE APPLICANT OWNS THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE
15:57:35 ALLEY THAT IS REQUESTED TO BE VACATED.
15:57:37 THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS AS FOLLOWS.
15:57:40 THE ALLEY RUNS BEHIND THE BUILDINGS, DEAD-ENDS AT THE EAST
15:57:44 END, IS UNUSABLE AS AN ALLEY TO ACCESS THIS BLOCK.
15:57:48 THIS ALLEY IS IN THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT AND NO
15:57:51 EXISTING CODE VIOLATIONS FOR THIS PROPERTY.
15:57:56 THE TOTAL SQUARE FEET APPROXIMATELY OF THE ALLEY REQUESTED
15:58:00 TO BE VACATED IS 4,080 SQUARE FEET, PARTIALLY INCLUDED,
15:58:05 ASPHALT PAVING AT THE EAST END, AND APPEARS TO BE USED BY
15:58:09 THE OWNER OF 4430 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, WITH ACCESS TO THE
15:58:14 ALLEY.
15:58:15 A DOOR OPENS ONTO THE ALLEY.
15:58:17 THE ALLEY IS OPENED AT THE WEST END.
15:58:22 WASTEWATER, TECO, FRONTIER FACILITIES LOCATED IN THE ALLEY.
15:58:25 ALLEY CONTINUES TO THE EAST ONLY IN THE SUBJECT ALLEY.
15:58:30 THE ALLEY'S CONTINUATION IS IMPROVED.
15:58:32 AGAIN IN YELLOW IS THE PROPOSED VACANT REQUEST OF THE ALLEY
15:58:36 IN YELLOW AND PROPERTY OWNER THE IN RED.
15:58:40 AND IT DOES CONTINUE HERE TO THE EAST.
15:58:49 AGAIN THE ALLEY PROPOSED TO BEING VACATED.
15:58:54 AGAIN, SHOWING -- THE ALLEY HERE PROPOSED TO BE VACATED.
15:59:07 THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING WEST.
15:59:12 AND THE DOORWAY, 4430, OPENS ONTO THE ALLEY.
15:59:20 ALLEY LOOKING EAST FROM HESPERIDES AVENUE.
15:59:24 ACCESS TO THE ALLEY AT 4438 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
15:59:32 THE OCCUPANT'S PARCEL LOOKING SOUTH ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
15:59:39 THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNER SOUTH KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
15:59:46 ABUTTING PARCELS LOOKING WEST ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ALLEY
15:59:50 ARE CONSIDERED HART TRACKS.
15:59:56 AND HERE IS A CONTINUATION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST, AND
16:00:00 THIS IS NOT TO BE VACATED.
16:00:05 STAFF OBJECTS TO THE VACATING REQUEST BASED ON RESPONSES
16:00:08 RECEIVED FROM TRANSPORTATION, PLANNING, URBAN DESIGN.
16:00:10 THIS VACANT REQUEST IF APPROVED BY COUNCIL, EASEMENT
16:00:13 RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR WASTEWATER, TECO, FRONTIER.
16:00:17 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
16:00:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF ROSS?
16:00:23 ALL RIGHT.
16:00:25 THE APPLICANT NOW.
16:00:26 >>TODD PRESSMAN: IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
16:00:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
16:00:42 CAN YOU SEE THE PowerPoint, SIR?
16:00:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOT YET.
16:00:52 WE GOT IT.
16:00:53 WE GOT IT.
16:00:53 >>TODD PRESSMAN: YOU HAVE IT, SIR?
16:00:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
16:00:57 >>TODD PRESSMAN: VACATE 21-18, WHICH HAS BEEN WELL
16:01:02 PRESENTED BY THE STAFF.
16:01:06 THIS IS THE ALLEY LINKED TO NOWHERE, IT'S UNIMPROVED, MOST
16:01:11 LIT UNIMPROVED.
16:01:12 THERE'S IN A HISTORY OF TRAVEL BY ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC.
16:01:14 IT'S IN PRETTY BAD CONDITION.
16:01:16 IT'S UNSAFE.
16:01:17 IT CREATES TRASH AND SAFETY ISSUES.
16:01:21 WE ARE GENERALLY LOCATED AT KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
16:01:23 THIS WOULD BE FOR THE ALLEY THERE.
16:01:27 THIS IS HESPERIDES, AND THIS IS LAUBER.
16:01:35 THE ALLEYWAY IS BLOCKED BY BUILDINGS.
16:01:38 AT THIS POINT, THIS IS THE UNIMPROVED ALLEY, AND BLOCKED AT
16:01:42 THIS POINT.
16:01:43 AGAIN THIS IS REALLY AN ALLEYWAY TO NOWHERE.
16:01:45 WE TALKED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS OVER HERE ABOUT EVENTUALLY
16:01:49 MOVING FORWARD WITH A VACATING.
16:01:51 SO THIS ALLEYWAY IS UNIMPROVED AS WELL.
16:01:55 WE ARE DOWN ONE BLOCK AT THIS POINT, A BLOCK AT THIS POINT.
16:01:59 IT'S NOT FOR VEHICLE PASSAGE.
16:02:02 IT'S ONLY PARTIALLY IMPROVED.
16:02:04 AND THE SAME IN 2016, 2009, 2004.
16:02:12 THIS IS THE CLOSE AT THE WEST END, THE CLOSE IF HE EAST END.
16:02:20 THE ALLEY NEXT DOOR IS USED FOR PARKING AND FOR PURPOSES OF
16:02:26 THE BUSINESS AS IT IS HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE CONDITION OF THE
16:02:30 ALLEY NEXT DOOR IS.
16:02:32 WE TALKED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER NEXT DOOR ABOUT THE
16:02:36 ALLEYWAY, AND THESE ARE UNIMPROVED AREAS OF THE ALLEYWAY
16:02:42 THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT.
16:02:43 NOW, ONE CRITICAL FACTOR OF PRIME PREVENTION THROUGH
16:02:48 ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, I IT HAS FOUR MAJOR FUNCTIONS, KEEP
16:02:52 THINGS SAFE, BECAUSE THE ALLEYWAYS ARE DARK, THEY ARE NOT
16:02:55 TRAVELED, THE RETAIL STORES NEXT DOOR, IT IS DARK IN THE
16:03:06 BACK AND PEOPLE CAN CONGREGATE THAT, AND TRASH HAS ALSO BEEN
16:03:11 A PROBLEM.
16:03:12 TO KEEP THEM CLEAN.
16:03:15 CRIME PREVENTION DESIGN, IT DOESN'T MEAN MEET ANY OF THEM.
16:03:19 IN THE SENSE THAT CRIMINALS DON'T WANT TO BE OBSERVED.
16:03:22 THEY CAN HIDE IN THE ALLEYWAY.
16:03:23 IT'S DARK, OVERGROWN.
16:03:25 THERE'S NO ACCESS CONTROL IN TERMS OF PEOPLE HANGING OUT
16:03:29 THERE.
16:03:29 THERE'S NO LIGHTING.
16:03:30 THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT AND THERE'S REALLY NO MAINTENANCE AND
16:03:35 MANAGEMENT.
16:03:35 THERE'S NO LIGHTS.
16:03:36 IT'S OVERGROWN.
16:03:37 IT'S UNIMPROVED.
16:03:38 AND THOSE CONDITIONS --
16:03:41 SO REALLY IN SUMMARY THIS IS AN ALLEY TO NOWHERE, MOSTLY
16:03:45 UNIMPROVED.
16:03:46 THERE'S NO PATHWAY TO TRAVEL.
16:03:49 IN TERMS OF TEST OF TIME THERE'S IN A USE TO THE PUBLIC.
16:03:52 IT'S UNSAFE.
16:03:53 IT CREATES TRASH AND SAFETY ISSUES.
16:03:55 WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCILMEN, I APPRECIATE YOUR
16:03:59 CONSIDERATION.
16:03:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: QUESTIONS OF MR. PRESSMAN?
16:04:05 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
16:04:08 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
16:04:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
16:04:10 >> RON WIGGINTON: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE ARE CERTAIN
16:04:15 CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD LIKE TO VOICE THEIR POSITION ON
16:04:17 THIS MATTER.
16:04:18 I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD JOINED US OR NOT.
16:04:29 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
16:04:31 WE OBJECTED TO THE VACATING.
16:04:33 WE DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS A HARDSHIP DEMONSTRATED.
16:04:38 THERE DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A PUBLIC PURPOSE.
16:04:42 IT SEEMS LIKE THE NORTHEAST BUSINESS OWNER THERE IS USING IT
16:04:45 FOR ACCESS TO THEIR PROPERTY.
16:04:47 I KNOW THEY MENTIONED IT IN THEIR PRESENTATION BUT IT STILL
16:04:50 LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE USING TO GET INTO THEIR PROPERTY.
16:04:53 THAT WAS OUR MAIN OBJECTION.
16:04:54 >>TODD PRESSMAN: MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I RESPOND?
16:05:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BEFORE WE GO BACK
16:05:04 TO MR. PRESSMAN?
16:05:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME UNDERSTAND IT.
16:05:11 THERE'S NO NEED -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
16:05:17 AND I AM NOT TRYING TO BE HARD.
16:05:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STAFF?
16:05:30 MR. SCOTT?
16:05:31 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
16:05:35 IT SEEMS LIKE THE BUSINESS OWNER NEEDS IT TO GET TO HIS
16:05:37 PROPERTY.
16:05:40 I THINK THE APPLICANT HAD MENTIONED IT, BUT MAYBE REACH OUT
16:05:45 TO THAT BUSINESS OWNER.
16:05:47 I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING.
16:05:47 >>TODD PRESSMAN: MAY I RESPOND?
16:05:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONE SECOND.
16:05:55 MR. MIRANDA WILL ASK STAFF.
16:06:00 ARE YOU SATISFIED, MR. MIRANDA?
16:06:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.
16:06:03 I AM NOT HERE TO BE SATISFIED.
16:06:04 [ LAUGHTER ]
16:06:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SCOTT, YOU ARE SAYING THAT STAFF IS
16:06:20 OBJECTING TO THE ALLEY BEING CLOSED BECAUSE YOU FEEL THAT
16:06:23 THE BUSINESS OWNER IS STILL USING IT, IS THAT CORRECT?
16:06:31 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: ANOTHER SIDE, ON THE EAST SIDE, THAT STILL
16:06:34 USING TO THE GET TO THEIR PROPERTY.
16:06:38 THEY HAVE TO USE THAT ALLEY TO GET INTO THE BACK OF THEIR
16:06:40 PROPERTY THEIR DOOR SWINGS INTO IT IN ORDER TO GET TO IT.
16:06:48 AND WE DIDN'T FEEL THERE WAS ANY HARDSHIP OR PUBLIC PURPOSE
16:06:52 TO VACATE IT.
16:06:53 THAT'S ALL.
16:06:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STAFF IS ASKING -- MR. CARLSON.
16:07:01 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. SCOTT, I THINK I UNDERSTOOD THE
16:07:05 HARDSHIP, BUT IS THERE A PUBLIC USE FOR IT RIGHT NOW OR DO
16:07:10 YOU THINK IT'S ONLY USED BY THAT BUSINESS?
16:07:15 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: AS FAR AS I KNOW IT'S USED BY THAT
16:07:17 BUSINESS.
16:07:18 >>BILL CARLSON: DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE BEEN DRIVEWAY ACCESS
16:07:20 OR ANYTHING TO THAT ALLEY?
16:07:27 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: NONE EXCEPT THIS ONE.
16:07:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. WIGGINTON ANYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE, SIR?
16:07:38 >>RON WIGGINTON: ALSO OTHER ADDITIONAL DEPARTMENTS
16:07:39 INCLUDING SOLID WASTE AND URBAN PLANNING DESIGN.
16:07:42 SO I AM NOT SURE IF THEY ARE ON THE LINE AS WELL OR NOT.
16:07:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
16:07:47 IS THERE ANY OTHER STAFF ON HERE?
16:07:52 WE HAVE EVERYBODY HERE.
16:07:53 >> THIS IS ANDY MIKULSKI, URBAN DESIGN.
16:07:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
16:07:57 SWEAR HIM IN.
16:07:57 >>THE CLERK:
16:08:03 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
16:08:03 >> I DO.
16:08:10 SO TO ADDRESS THE URBAN DESIGN COMMENTS, THIS IS MORE FOR
16:08:14 DEVELOPMENT, SO THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY, WHEN THE SITE IS
16:08:21 REDEVELOPED, IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT PARKING BE TO THE REAR OR
16:08:24 THE SIDES OF THE PROPERTY, SO THIS ALLEY WAS IDEALLY IT
16:08:28 PROVIDES -- IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE
16:08:32 SITE, AND WOULD ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR MULTIPLE CURB CUTS ON
16:08:36 KENNEDY BOULEVARD, WHICH TIES INTO THE CITY'S VISION ZERO
16:08:41 POLICY.
16:08:41 SO IT'S IN EFFECT THE ALLEYWAY IS GOING TO PROVIDE KIND OF
16:08:46 THE FREE DRIVEWAY FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PARCEL.
16:08:49 SO THAT IS URBAN DESIGN'S OBJECTION, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT
16:08:54 FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT AND CAUSE WHOEVER -- IF IT IS VACATED
16:08:58 WHEN THOSE SITES ARE REDEVELOPMENT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A
16:09:00 LOT MORE -- EACH SITE IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE
16:09:04 VEHICLE CIRCULATION OF PARKING WHICH IS GOING TO EAT UP A
16:09:07 LOT OF THE REDEVELOPABLE POTENTIAL FOR EACH PARCEL.
16:09:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
16:09:17 ALL RIGHT.
16:09:17 ANYBODY ELSE FROM STAFF TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
16:09:21 ANYBODY FROM STAFF TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
16:09:28 SEEING NO, WE WILL GO BACK TO MR. PRESSMAN FOR REBUTTAL.
16:09:31 >>TODD PRESSMAN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
16:09:33 I'M NOT SURE, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO STAFF, YOU CAN SEE
16:09:36 FROM THE PICTURES, THIS ALLEYWAY IS BARELY WIDER THAN A CAR.
16:09:41 SO AS THEY INDICATED, IT WOULD PROVIDE PARKING FOR THIS
16:09:46 PARCEL, BUT TO CLARIFY, IT DOES NOT REQUIRE TO ACCESS THE
16:09:50 PARCEL.
16:09:50 THEY WANT ACCESS ALL AROUND KENNEDY AND ON THE SIDE STREETS.
16:09:55 SO WHEN STAFF TALKS ABOUT VEHICULAR MOVEMENTS THROUGH THIS
16:09:59 ALLEYWAY, AND PARKING FOR THIS PROPERTY, THOSE TWO ARE
16:10:06 IMPOSSIBILITIES AS THEY ADDRESS EACH OTHER.
16:10:09 AGAIN TO CLARIFY, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS PLENTY OF ACCESS.
16:10:14 THIS IS NOT THE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.
16:10:15 THERE'S A DOOR BEHIND, BUT THE MAIN ACCESS IS ON THE SIDE
16:10:19 STREET.
16:10:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
16:10:28 ROSS?
16:10:29 >>ROSS SAMMONS: I WOULD LIKE TO TOUCH ON THAT POINT THAT
16:10:31 MR. PRESSMAN MADE ABOUT CURRENTLY IT'S AS WIDE AS A CAR.
16:10:37 TECHNICALLY IT'S PLATTED, IT'S 15 FEET WIDE.
16:10:40 SO TECHNICALLY IN THE FUTURE IF SOMETHING WAS DEVELOPED
16:10:43 THERE TO MR. MIKULSKI'S POINT, THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE THE
16:10:49 OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE PAVE THAT AND IT WOULD BE 15 FEET IN
16:10:55 THE FUTURE.
16:10:56 BUT CURRENTLY, YES, MR. PRESSMAN IS RIGHT.
16:11:00 BUT TO MR. MIKULSKI'S POINT, IT IS ACTUALLY 15 FEET.
16:11:07 >>TODD PRESSMAN: THAT'S STILL NEGATED BY SAYING THE PURPOSE
16:11:11 WOULD BE PARKING FOR A PARKING LOT.
16:11:14 NO ONE HAS SOUGHT TO USE IT SINCE THE AERIAL IN 2000.
16:11:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
16:11:20 >> JUST TO CLARIFY, IT'S NOT THAT WE WOULD -- IF SOMEONE
16:11:26 WERE TO REDEVELOP THIS PARCEL THAT THEY WOULD PARK IN THE
16:11:28 ALLEY BUT THEIR PARKING LOT WOULD BE ACCESSED ON THE ALLEY.
16:11:32 AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE RUNNING INTO ESPECIALLY IN
16:11:36 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ALONG THE FLORIDA AND TAMPA CORRIDORS.
16:11:40 WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE WALKABLE, BUT IT'S REALLY
16:11:43 IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE ARE NO ALLEYS, SO WE HAVE TO GET
16:11:48 ACCESS, VEHICULAR ACCESS IN THE FORM OF CURB CUTS ALONG THE
16:11:53 CORRIDORS, WHICH REALLY KILLS WALKABILITY.
16:11:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
16:11:59 ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF?
16:12:01 >>TODD PRESSMAN: THE SIDEWALK ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD, 25 FEET
16:12:07 FROM THE ALLEYWAY.
16:12:13 NO DISRESPECT TO THE CITY STAFF.
16:12:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
16:12:18 MOVE TO CLOSE BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY VIERA.
16:12:21 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:12:22 ANY OPPOSED?
16:12:24 MOTION CARRIES.
16:12:24 >> FILE VAC 21-18.
16:12:35 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
16:12:37 AN ORDINANCE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING,
16:12:39 DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING A RIGHT-OF-WAY ALLEYWAY LOCATED
16:12:44 SOUTH OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD, NORTH OF CLEVELAND STREET, EAST
16:12:47 OF HESPERIDES STREET, AND WEST OF LAUBER WAY WITHIN THE PLAT
16:12:53 OF ROSEMONT SUBDIVISION, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
16:12:57 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
16:13:00 SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS
16:13:03 AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN
16:13:07 PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
16:13:11 PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING
16:13:14 CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
16:13:17 EFFECTIVE DATE.
16:13:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
16:13:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
16:13:20 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
16:13:21 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
16:13:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
16:13:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
16:13:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
16:13:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
16:13:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
16:13:29 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
16:13:31 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 7th,
16:13:35 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
16:13:37 >>TODD PRESSMAN: THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS.
16:13:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 70.
16:13:44 LAST ONE TODAY.
16:13:46 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
16:13:52 ITEM NUMBER 70 IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW THAT WAS FILED
16:13:56 REGARDING AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD HEARING FOR THE
16:14:02 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 714 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
16:14:05 THE CASE NUMBER IS ARC-21-557.
16:14:10 THE PROPERTY OWNER ASKED THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
16:14:15 TO APPROVE A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK FROM
16:14:19 20 FEET TO 16 FEET WITH 3 FEET FOR EAVES AND GUTTERS.
16:14:23 THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION HEARD THE REQUEST ON
16:14:28 DECEMBER 9th OF 2021 AND DENIED THE VARIANCE REQUEST. BY
16:14:32 THE PROPERTY OWNER BASED UPON THE PROPERTY OWNER NOT MEETING
16:14:35 THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA AS SET FORTH IN CODE SECTION 27-114,
16:14:41 SPECIFICALLY SUBSECTIONS 1 AND 5 OF THAT CODE SECTION.
16:14:46 CITY COUNCIL WAS RECENTLY PROVIDED THE RELEVANT CODE
16:14:49 SECTIONS WHICH IS CODE SECTION 27-414.
16:14:53 THE RULES OF PROCEDURE AND SAMPLE MOTIONS REGARDING THIS
16:14:57 PARTICULAR ITEM.
16:15:00 THE STANDARD OF REVIEW ACCORDING TO CODE SECTION 27-61
16:15:04 SUBSECTION G-2 IS A DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW MEANING CITY
16:15:09 COUNCIL CAN TAKE TESTIMONY, RECEIVE NEW EVIDENCE, AND MAKE A
16:15:14 DECISION TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE PETITIONER HAS MET
16:15:18 THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA THAT'S SET FORTH IN CODE SECTION
16:15:22 27-114.
16:15:25 MR. VILA WITH STAFF WILL GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATION
16:15:30 REQUEST BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AND
16:15:33 EXPLAIN FURTHER THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA THAT I PREVIOUSLY
16:15:38 PROVIDED, AND THAT'S GAIN SIX ITEMS THAT THE SIX SUBSECTIONS
16:15:45 THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER MUST MEET FOR THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA.
16:15:48 AFTER TAKING THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND RECEIVING ANY EVIDENCE
16:15:52 REGARDING THIS ITEM, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE THREE ACTIONS,
16:15:56 HAS THREE OPTIONS REGARDING THIS PETITION FOR REVIEW.
16:15:59 CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW DECISION
16:16:04 AND DENY THE VARIANCE REQUESTED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, CITY
16:16:08 COUNCIL CAN REMAND THE ITEM BACK TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
16:16:10 COMMISSION WITH SPECIFIC DIRECTION FOR THE BOARD TO
16:16:14 CONSIDER, OR LASTLY, CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION
16:16:19 FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AND THEREBY GRANT
16:16:24 THE VARIANCE REQUESTED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER.
16:16:28 AT THIS TIME, I WILL TURN --
16:16:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
16:16:32 I'M SO SORRY.
16:16:33 FORGIVE ME FOR INTERRUPTING BUT BEFORE YOU TURN IT OVER TO
16:16:35 MR. VILA, JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL, THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY
16:16:39 EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS RELEVANT TO THIS THAT YOU DISCLOSE
16:16:42 THAT AT THIS TIME, AND ALSO WITH REGARD TO ANY WRITTEN
16:16:46 DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED, IF WE COULD HAVE A MOTION
16:16:48 TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
16:16:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
16:16:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
16:16:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY VIERA.
16:16:56 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:16:58 OPPOSED?
16:16:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY APOLOGIES.
16:17:00 THANK YOU.
16:17:00 >>RON VILA: STAFF OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
16:17:07 AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
16:17:09 CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN AT THIS TIME, PLEASE?
16:17:25 IS MY SCREEN AVAILABLE, EVERYBODY?
16:17:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S BEING BLOWN UP FOR US RIGHT NOW.
16:17:33 WE GOT IT.
16:17:34 >>RON VILA: THANK YOU, SIR.
16:17:35 TO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME BACKGROUND AND SOME INFORMATION
16:17:37 MOVING FORWARD, I AM GOING TO GO THROUGH A BRIEF PHOTO
16:17:40 PRESENTATION.
16:17:41 THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS HIGHLIGHTED IN THIS GREEN
16:17:44 PARCEL.
16:17:46 THE ADDRESS IS 714 SOUTH BOULEVARD WHICH FRONTS TO THE
16:17:51 NORTH, YOU HAVE SWANN AS A CROSS STREET, YOU HAVE BAYSHORE
16:17:54 BOULEVARD TO THE EAST, AND TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN TO THE
16:17:57 SOUTH INMAN.
16:17:59 THERE IS A 16-FOOT ALLEY RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH BEHIND THE
16:18:02 SUBJECT SITE.
16:18:04 IF YOU LOOK AT THIS BLOCK, THIS IS ON THE SANBORN MAP FROM
16:18:08 1929 SHOWING THE FABRIC AND THE LAYOUT OF THE STRUCTURES IN
16:18:11 THE EARLY 1900S, YOU SEE THE DEPTH OF THE PARCELS HERE.
16:18:16 THEY ARE ALL CONSISTENT WITHIN THIS BLOCK WITH THE SUBJECT
16:18:21 SITE WITHIN THIS SLOT.
16:18:26 THE NEXT IS AN AERIAL.
16:18:27 I WANT TO PROVIDE YOU WITH POINT OF REFERENCE.
16:18:31 PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE GREEN BOX.
16:18:34 ONCE AGAIN THIS IS ON SOUTH BOULEVARD.
16:18:36 IT'S JUST TO THE SOUTH OF SWANN.
16:18:38 AS YOU COME DOWN BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, YOU GET INTO HYDE PARK,
16:18:42 INTO HYDE PARK VILLAGE DOWN SWANN, AND YOU HEAD SOUTH ON
16:18:47 BOULEVARD, AND THEN THE CROSS STREET TO THE SOUTH.
16:18:50 TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, THIS IS THE
16:18:53 FRONT ELEVATION OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
16:18:58 LOOKING AT THE FRONT ELEVATION, AND THE NORTH ELEVATION.
16:19:03 AND THEN LOOKING DOWN THE VEHICULAR CORRIDOR, THAT DEAD-ENDS
16:19:07 TO AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
16:19:09 THE ABUTTING STRUCTURE TO THE NORTH IS AN INTERVENING
16:19:17 STRUCTURE.
16:19:17 GOING BACK TO THE SUBJECT SITE, THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION
16:19:20 WITH ALL THE VEGETATION THAT IS THERE, THE PROPERTY TO THE
16:19:23 SOUTH, ABUTTING IS THIS ONE-STORY STRUCTURE.
16:19:30 LOOKING DOWN SOUTH BOULEVARD TOWARDS BAYSHORE, THEN IN THE
16:19:37 OTHER DIRECTION LOOKING BACK TOWARDS SWANN.
16:19:42 THIS IS THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
16:19:47 FOCUSING ON THE STRUCTURE AND THE PARCEL IN QUESTION.
16:19:51 THIS IS THE REAR OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
16:19:55 CURRENTLY THEY HAVE ANN ARBOR IN THE BACK THAT IS ABOUT
16:19:59 60-FOOT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
16:20:01 VERTICAL ASPECT OF IT, AND THEN IT HAS THESE CASCADING
16:20:05 STAIRS THAT WRAP AROUND.
16:20:07 THIS WILL COME UP IN A FUTURE DISCUSSION.
16:20:10 I WANTED TO SHARE THESE PICTURES WITH YOU.
16:20:13 THIS IS CURRENTLY THE REAR ELEVATION, THAT HAS THIS VERTICAL
16:20:16 ARBOR.
16:20:17 OPEN TO THE AIR, ALL SIDES.
16:20:23 AND THE CURRENT REAR YARD WITH THE ARBOR.
16:20:28 THAT CONCLUDES THE PHOTO PRESENTATION.
16:20:31 GOING INTO THE APPLICATION ITSELF.
16:20:36 THE APPLICATION CAME INTO THE OFFICE WITH AN ADDITION TO A
16:20:40 ONE-STORY PORCH, AND ENLARGED KITCHEN ON THE REAR OF THE
16:20:45 PROPERTY, WITH A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD FROM
16:20:49 20-FOOT TO 16-FOOT.
16:20:53 AS PART OF THE VARIANCE HARDSHIP CRITERIA MOVING FORWARD,
16:20:56 THERE ARE SIX CRITERIA THAT ARE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS
16:21:00 THAT HAVE TO BE ADHERED TO.
16:21:03 WHEN I READ THE MOTION FOR DENIAL, ITEM NUMBER 1 AND ITEM
16:21:09 NUMBER 5, WAS THE CONDITION THAT THE BOARD FELT THAT WAS NOT
16:21:14 MET AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
16:21:21 THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE
16:21:23 PLAN.
16:21:24 THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN.
16:21:25 THIS IS THE FRONT STREET WHICH IS BOULEVARD.
16:21:29 EVERYTHING THAT'S UNDER YOUR REVIEW IS IN THE BACK.
16:21:33 SO THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITION.
16:21:35 THIS IS THE ARBOR THAT SHOWS THE HATCH LINE IN HERE.
16:21:40 THIS IS THE CASCADING STAIRS THAT WRAP AROUND THE ARBOR.
16:21:43 THE CURRENT SETBACK IS 15-FOOT 9 INCHES.
16:21:48 STAFF TRIED TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO YOU.
16:21:52 WE FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT THIS WAS APPROVED THROUGH THE ARC
16:21:58 OR THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
16:22:00 THEN THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
16:22:03 THIS IS SHOWING THE ADDITION.
16:22:06 IN THIS LOCATION.
16:22:07 PART OF IT IS IN ADDITION FOR AN ENCLOSED ADDITION TO THE
16:22:13 DINING ROOM AND KITCHEN.
16:22:14 AND THIS IS A COVERED SCREENED-IN AREA HERE.
16:22:19 THE VARIANCE REQUEST. IS IN THIS SECTION HERE.
16:22:22 REDUCTION FROM CODE STANDARD TO THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION
16:22:26 WHICH IS 20-FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK TO 16-FOOT, WHICH IS
16:22:32 ILLUSTRATED BY THIS DIMENSION LINE, WITH AN ENCROACHMENT OF
16:22:36 3-FOOT FOR EAVES AND GUTTERS.
16:22:38 THERE IS NO VARIANCE REQUEST. FOR THE SIDE YARD SO THIS IS
16:22:41 THE REAR YARD HERE.
16:22:43 THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE REDOING THIS AFTERNOON.
16:22:49 THIS WAS THE MOTION FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT THE
16:22:51 ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION REVIEWED THE REFERENCED
16:22:55 APPLICATION AT ITS MEETING ON DECEMBER 8, 2021.
16:22:58 THE ARC VOTED TO DENY THE VARIANCE REQUEST. FOR THE REAR
16:23:01 YARD SETBACK FROM 20-FOOT TO 16-FOOT WITH AN ENCROACHMENT
16:23:06 FOR 3-FOOT FOR EAVES AND GUTTERS, WITH THE ONE CAVEAT THAT I
16:23:10 SPOKE ABOUT, THE CONDITION WAS THAT IT DIDN'T MEET THE
16:23:14 HARDSHIP CRITERIA FOR ITEMS NUMBER 1 AND ITEM NUMBER 5 ON
16:23:18 THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA INFORMATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
16:23:22 THAT WAS A 3-1 VOTE, AND THAT CONCLUDE MY PORTION AT THIS
16:23:27 TIME, AND I WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
16:23:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. VILA?
16:23:35 ALL RIGHT.
16:23:35 THE APPLICANT?
16:23:36 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M HERE REPRESENTING ANNA BERNUS.
16:23:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SWEAR MR. MICHELINI.
16:23:49 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
16:23:50 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I DO.
16:23:58 THE BOARD LOOKED AT THIS, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION
16:24:01 REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST.
16:24:05 AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH A FEW PARAGRAPHS FOR YOU.
16:24:11 SO IT'S NOT JUST A HARDSHIP BUT IT ALSO SAYS PRACTICAL
16:24:14 DIFFICULTIES.
16:24:16 AND THE PROPERTY AND THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH EXISTING
16:24:19 STRUCTURE.
16:24:20 I THINK THAT THE STAFF POINTED OUT TO YOU THAT THERE'S AN
16:24:23 EXISTING ARBOR, 15 FEET, 9 INCHES, FROM PROPERTY LINE.
16:24:37 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE, AND WE HAVE SUPPORT LETTERS
16:24:41 FROM THIS PROPERTY OWNER HERE TO THE NORTH, THIS PROPERTY
16:24:45 OWNER HERE, ADJACENT TO THE EAST, THIS PROPERTY OWNER HERE
16:24:49 WHO IS ADJACENT TO THE WEST.
16:24:51 AND I WILL BE GOING THROUGH THIS.
16:24:57 THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
16:24:59 AGAIN OUTLINED HERE AND THE SUPPORTING LETTER.
16:25:06 THESE LOTS ARE ONLY 99 FEET DEEP FOR THIS ENTIRE BLOCK.
16:25:09 IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT, AND YOU WILL LOOK AT THESE
16:25:12 DIMENSIONS HERE, 127 FEET, 155 FEET DEEP, 127 FEET DEEP.
16:25:24 THE ALLEY AND THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY HERE ARE ONLY 50 FEET.
16:25:28 THE ALLEY -- I MEAN THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY HERE IS 60 FEET.
16:25:31 SO THIS PROPERTY IS ESSENTIALLY LOST THE ABILITY TO HAVE A
16:25:37 DEEPER LOT AND ALSO TO HAVE THE SETBACK THAT'S BEING
16:25:42 PROPOSED, WHICH IS A FOOT OFF THE OVERALL DIMENSION OF THE
16:25:48 PROPERTY, PLUS THE DIMENSIONS OF THIS WHOLE BLOCK ARE
16:25:51 SMALLER THAN THE OTHER ONE.
16:25:55 SO WHEN YOU START GOING THROUGH THE HARDSHIP AND IT SAYS
16:25:58 PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES AS WELL, THEY DIDN'T ESTABLISH THESE
16:26:01 LOTS OR THE DIMENSIONS OF THESE LOTS.
16:26:04 THEIR HOUSE IS AN EXISTING HOUSE.
16:26:05 THEY ARE NOT GOING TO PICK UP THE HOUSE AND TRY TO MOVE TO
16:26:08 THE MEET ANOTHER CRITERIA FOR SETBACK.
16:26:11 AND WHEN THE BOARD TALKED ABOUT NOT MEETING THE PRACTICAL
16:26:14 DIFFICULTIES, OR THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA, THEY FAILED TO
16:26:17 RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT THIS ENTIRE BLOCK WAS NOT EVEN
16:26:23 SUBSTANDARD.
16:26:25 TO MEET THE EXISTING CODE REGARDING ZONING.
16:26:27 IT'S A NONCONFORMING LOT AS ALL OF THOSE LOTS ARE ON THAT
16:26:31 PROPERTY.
16:26:32 WE WENT THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION.
16:26:36 WE PROVIDED TO THEM THIS PHOTOGRAPH, WHICH IS THE EXISTING
16:26:50 ARBOR ON THE BACK, WHICH SITS AT 15 FEET 9 INCHES FROM THE
16:26:54 REAR PROPERTY LINE.
16:26:56 AND GRANTED, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF CAN'T FIND A PERMIT FOR
16:27:00 THIS, HOWEVER, THE COMPANY OWNERS DIDN'T BUILD THIS.
16:27:04 THEY ARE REQUESTING TO REBUILD THIS AND MAKE IT COMPATIBLE
16:27:07 WITH THE EXISTING DESIGN OF THE BUILDING.
16:27:10 THIS IS A SIDE VIEW.
16:27:12 THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE SHOWING AS EXISTING AND THIS IS WHAT'S
16:27:16 BEING PROPOSED WHICH WILL BE A PERMANENT ROOF ON, AND TO
16:27:19 MAKE IT COMPATIBLE WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE HOUSE.
16:27:23 THERE'S A COUPLE MORE PHOTOGRAPHS SHOWING YOU THE EXTENT TO
16:27:29 WHICH -- THIS IS AN EXTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT HERE IN TERMS OF
16:27:33 AN ADDITION, AND I AM NOT REALLY SURE HOW IT WOULD ADVERSELY
16:27:38 AFFECT ANYONE ELSE.
16:27:39 THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER CRITERIA. IT WASN'T CREATED BY THIS
16:27:43 APPLICANT.
16:27:43 IT DOESN'T INTERFERE, ADVERSELY AFFECT ANYONE ELSE.
16:27:46 THE CONDITION EXISTS ALREADY AT 15-9.
16:27:50 WE ARE ASKING IT TO BE REDUCED FROM 20 FEET TO 16 FEET.
16:27:53 THE VARIANCE IS IN HARMONY WITH THE DESIGNATED AND
16:27:58 ACCOMMODATE THE UNUSUAL CONDITIONS OF THE PROPERTY.
16:28:00 WE ARE ESSENTIALLY -- WE ARE HINDERED BY PROPERTY.
16:28:08 THIS ONE TO THE -- IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH WHICH IS A ZERO
16:28:13 LOT LINE.
16:28:14 THIS ONE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM US WHICH IS RIGHT ON THE
16:28:17 ALLEY.
16:28:19 AND ANOTHER ONE.
16:28:23 THEY ARE ALL INSIDE OF THOSE OTHER BUILDINGS.
16:28:25 WE ARE NOT CREATING ANY KIND OF ADVERSE EFFECT TO ANYONE
16:28:29 ELSE.
16:28:33 THERE'S ANOTHER ONE.
16:28:43 WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THE ADJACENT STRUCTURES, WE HAVE A
16:28:51 DIAGRAM WE ARE SHOWING YOU.
16:29:22 I APOLOGIZE TO YOU.
16:29:53 THIS IS THE EXISTING IMPACT HERE.
16:29:55 THIS IS WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED TO ENCLOSE THIS AREA SO IT
16:29:58 LOOKS LIKE THAT.
16:30:09 HERE IS THE DIAGRAM SHOWING YOU WHAT THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES
16:30:12 LOOK LIKE, BACK TO THEIR SETBACKS, AND THE EXISTING
16:30:17 STRUCTURE, WHICH IS HERE.
16:30:26 THIS IS EXISTING PROPERTY HERE.
16:30:44 THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH WHICH IS
16:30:47 718.
16:30:47 THIS IS 710.
16:30:49 SHOWING YOU WHAT THEY HAVE HERE.
16:30:51 713.
16:30:53 ZERO LOT LINE ON THE ALLEY.
16:30:54 ALMOST ZERO.
16:30:56 THIS IS PROBABLY ABOUT A FOOT OFF THE ALLEY HERE.
16:31:00 709.
16:31:01 AND I WOULD LIKE TO ENTER FOR THE RECORD THE THREE PROPERTY
16:31:04 OWNERS SUPPORTING LETTERS FROM 718, 710 AND 711.
16:31:10 711 FIELDING, 710 SOUTH BOULEVARD AND 718 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
16:31:15 I AM JUST GOING TO READ THIS INTO THE RECORD FOR YOU.
16:31:20 WE RESIDE AT 710 SOUTH BOULEVARD WHICH SUPPORTS THE REVIEW
16:31:24 REQUEST REGARDING THEIR HOME AT 714.
16:31:28 WE REVIEWED THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN FOR THE BUILDER AND ARE
16:31:31 AWARE THAT THE REQUEST TO SETBACK RELIEF FROM 20 TO 16 FEET.
16:31:34 WE SUPPORT THE REQUEST FOR THIS REASONABLE LIMITED EXCEPTION
16:31:38 WHICH IS WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S PURVIEW TO GRANT.
16:31:41 IN LIGHT OF THE SIZE, POSITIONING, CHARACTER OF THE HOME WE
16:31:44 BELIEVE THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS REASONABLE AND
16:31:46 APPROPRIATE.
16:31:47 WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THEIR REQUESTS OR DESIGN IS OUT OF
16:31:50 CHARACTER WITH HYDE PARK, AND TO THAT POINT WE STILL HAVE TO
16:31:54 MOVE THE HYDE PARK DESIGN DEVELOPMENT GUIDELINES.
16:31:57 SPECIFICALLY, MANY OF THE HOMES AS WELL AS THOSE ADJACENT
16:32:01 ALREADY EXIST WITH STRUCTURES WHICH HAVE SERVICE ALLEY WHICH
16:32:05 ARE CLOSER.
16:32:06 OUR ENTIRE PROPERTY ABUTS ENTIRE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THEIR
16:32:09 PROPERTY, AND AS OWNERS WE WOULD BE THE ONES IMPACTED.
16:32:13 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD NOT
16:32:16 BE IN OPPOSITION TO OUR RIGHTS.
16:32:19 CONTRARY IT WOULD ENHANCE THE HISTORIC LOOK OF THE REAR AND
16:32:22 WOULD PROVIDE NEEDED PRIVACY FOR THEM AT THEIR HOUSE.
16:32:26 THAT WAS FROM 710 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
16:32:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MICHELINI, ARE YOU WILLING TO PUT
16:32:32 THOSE LETTERS INTO THE RECORD?
16:32:34 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I AM GOING TO HAND THEM TO YOU TO PUT
16:32:36 INTO THE RECORD.
16:32:37 THE PROPERTY OWNER AT 7 ST. LOUIS PROVIDING SUPPORT AGAIN.
16:32:40 I AM JUST PAR A RAISING, AND 711 SOUTH FIELDING, AND ONE OF
16:32:44 THE THINGS THAT IS NOTED ON THE LETTER FROM 711 FIELDING IS
16:32:49 THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL IS AN ARCHITECT AND MEMBER OF THE
16:32:51 HISTORIC -- HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HISTORIC GRANT COMMITTEE.
16:32:55 AND THEY ARE WELL AWARE OF THE GUIDELINES AND WHAT WOULD
16:32:58 HAPPEN WITH THESE VARIOUS PROPOSALS.
16:33:01 WE HAVE MET THE INTENT OF WHAT THE CODE SAYS YOU HAVE TO
16:33:04 MEET IN TERMS OF PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES AND HARDSHIP.
16:33:07 I HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU ABOUT THE LOT.
16:33:10 IT'S A NONCONFORMING LOT.
16:33:12 THEY HAVE AN EXISTING STRUCTURE.
16:33:15 IT ALREADY IS AT 15 FEET 9 INCHES.
16:33:18 AND I BELIEVE THAT THE REQUEST TO CONVERT THIS AND MAKE IT
16:33:22 HISTORICALLY COMPATIBLE IN MEETING THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
16:33:25 GUIDELINES AND DESIGN IS AN APPROPRIATE AND RESPECTFUL
16:33:28 REQUEST TO THIS BOARD TO OVERTURN THE ARC.
16:33:33 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU OVERTURN THAT DENIAL.
16:33:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.
16:33:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
16:33:41 SO YOU ESSENTIALLY ARE RIGHTING A WRONG, MEANING WHAT'S
16:33:45 EXISTING NOW ON THE BACK PATIO, YOU SAID THEY COULD NOT FIND
16:33:49 A PERMIT FOR, SO WE ARE ASSUMING IT WAS BUILT WITHOUT A
16:33:51 PERMIT, CORRECT?
16:33:53 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I DON'T KNOW.
16:33:54 THAT'S WHAT MR. VILA SAID.
16:33:56 THAT THEY LOOKED FOR A PERMIT.
16:33:58 BUT IT'S OLD.
16:33:59 IT'S NOT A NEW CONSTRUCTION.
16:34:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO KNOWS, THE HOUSE MUST BE 1930s, I
16:34:05 WOULD ASSUME.
16:34:05 IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANYTIME IN THAT.
16:34:09 >> FROM THE 20s ON.
16:34:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WHAT YOU PLAN TO REPLACE IT WITH IS
16:34:15 AN ENCLOSED ONE-STORY DESIGN, BASICALLY ADDING AN ADDITIONAL
16:34:18 ROOM, AND OF COURSE IT WOULD MATCH THE REST OF THE HOUSE.
16:34:24 SO IT WOULDN'T DISTURB THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY.
16:34:28 >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO.
16:34:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND YOU ARE ASKING FOR 20 FEET TO 16
16:34:31 FEET.
16:34:32 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
16:34:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND LOOKING AT 713, 711, EVEN 709 --
16:34:40 718 TO 710, THEY ARE RIGHT UP TO THE ALLEY.
16:34:44 THEY ARE RIGHT UP TO -- YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A LOT OF
16:34:49 HEADACHE FOR SOMETHING REALLY SO MINOR.
16:34:52 IT'S NOT AFFECTING THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER OF
16:34:55 THE SURROUNDING PARCELS.
16:34:59 I MEAN, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS, BUT I DON'T SEE
16:35:02 AN ISSUE WITH THIS.
16:35:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON?
16:35:07 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. MICHELINI, DID THE APPLICANT OR THE
16:35:12 OWNER -- I'M SORRY, I'M TIRED -- DID THE OWNER HAVE BENEFIT
16:35:16 OF YOUR EXPERTISE IN PRESENTING ARKS, AND ARE THERE ANY NEW
16:35:23 ARGUMENTS THAT YOU HAVE NOW THAT YOU WISH YOU HAD MADE AT
16:35:25 THAT MEETING?
16:35:28 >>STEVE MICHELINI: WELL, WHAT I DID PULL THAT'S DIFFERENT
16:35:31 IS PLATTING THE ADJACENT BLOCKS, THEY ARE MUCH LARGER.
16:35:35 WE STATED IT ON THE RECORD.
16:35:36 AND THEN THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP THAT WE DIDN'T
16:35:39 HAVE THE VERIFICATION ON REGARDING THESE PROPERTIES, AND
16:35:45 WHEN DID THEY ENCROACH AND BUILD BACK TO THE ALLEYWAY.
16:35:50 AND THEN THERE WAS AN ASSERTION THAT THESE WEREN'T REALLY
16:35:55 OCCUPIED SPACES, SO WE WENT BACK AND THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE
16:35:58 THOSE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, AND WE MADE SURE THAT THEY KNEW
16:36:03 EXACTLY WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED, AND THEY VERIFIED THAT
16:36:07 THEIR PROPERTIES WERE PROBABLY MORE -- NOT OUT OF CHARACTER,
16:36:13 BUT THEY ENCROACHED MORE THAN THE REQUEST THAT WAS BEING
16:36:16 PROVIDED TO THE ARC.
16:36:22 DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
16:36:23 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, THANK YOU.
16:36:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. MICHELINI?
16:36:28 ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
16:36:29 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
16:36:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO REGISTERED.
16:36:34 MOVE TO CLOSE BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY CITRO.
16:36:36 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:36:38 MOTION GRANTED.
16:36:38 ALL RIGHT, MR. MANISCALCO.
16:36:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
16:36:41 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE OVERTURN THE ARC'S
16:36:46 DECISION AND HEREBY GRANT THE VARIANCE ARC-21-557 FOR THE
16:36:53 PROPERTY AT 714 SOUTH BOULEVARD BECAUSE THE PETITION DOES
16:36:55 MEET THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-114.
16:37:01 WHEN I DID ASK QUESTIONS A FEW MINUTES AGO TO THE APPLICANT,
16:37:07 HE DOES HAVE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.
16:37:09 I DON'T THINK IT WOULD AFFECT THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE
16:37:14 NEIGHBORHOOD.
16:37:15 I THINK IT REALLY DOES MATCH AT LEAST THREE OUT OF THE FOUR,
16:37:20 FOUR OF THE FIVE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, AND IT'S A MINOR
16:37:23 REQUEST.
16:37:24 THEY ARE TAKING OUT THE OUTDOOR PATIO, AND CREATING AN
16:37:29 ENCLOSED STRUCTURE THAT WOULD MATCH THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE
16:37:33 OF THE HOUSE.
16:37:34 THEREFORE, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU WOULD THINK IT'S PART OF
16:37:38 THE ORIGINAL HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
16:37:40 THAT'S MY MOTION.
16:37:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
16:37:44 ROLL CALL.
16:37:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
16:37:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
16:37:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
16:37:49 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
16:37:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
16:37:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
16:37:52 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
16:37:53 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
16:37:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
16:37:57 WE ARE DO THAT HOUR, GENTLEMEN.
16:37:58 THAT HOUR.
16:38:07 AND A WALK-ON.
16:38:10 OKAY.
16:38:41 MA'AM, DO YOU HAVE AN ITEM?
16:38:44 >> [OFF MICROPHONE] SOMETHING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS
16:39:04 MORNING.
16:39:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
16:39:11 WE'LL TAKE MR. MIRANDA FIRST.
16:39:14 (MOTION CARRIED)
16:39:17 RESOLUTION IS ONE THAT RESOLUTION FROM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL,
16:39:20 THE CITY, CALLING UPON THE UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF
16:39:23 INTERIOR TO RECOGNIZE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF ROBERTO
16:39:27 CLEMENTE'S PASSING TO NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES
16:39:35 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
16:39:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
16:39:39 A ROLL CALL?
16:39:41 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:39:42 OPPOSED?
16:39:43 MOTION GRANTED.
16:39:45 ALL RIGHT.
16:39:46 WE GO TO THE SECOND WALK-ON.
16:39:48 AND MADAM CLERK.
16:39:50 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: CITY CLERK.
16:40:05 HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENT POLICY AND
16:40:12 PROCEDURES GUIDELINES FOR FILLING THE VACANCY IN DISTRICT 3
16:40:17 AT-LARGE, EXISTING ON MARCH 14th, 2022.
16:40:24 WE WANT TO GO OVER THE SELECTION PROCESS, GET YOU TO APPROVE
16:40:34 THE PROCESS, APPROVE THE TIMELINE, AND THE APPLICATION.
16:40:38 THAT'S TODAY.
16:40:40 AND I WILL JUST BRIEFLY GO OVER THE TIMELINE.
16:40:48 ONCE YOU APPROVE THAT TODAY, ON MONDAY, AT NOON, WE WANT TO
16:40:54 HAVE THE APPLICATION FORM AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
16:41:02 ALSO INCLUDE AN INVITATION TO THOSE THAT COMPLETE THE
16:41:07 APPLICATION TO APPEAR ON APRIL 4th AT 9:00 A.M.
16:41:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APRIL 5th?
16:41:22 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: APRIL 5th.
16:41:23 I STAND CORRECTED.
16:41:24 AT 9:00 A.M.
16:41:26 AND THAT'S ON MARCH 21st AT NOON, THE APPLICATION AND
16:41:30 THE INVITATION.
16:41:34 THEY WILL HAVE TEN DAYS TO COMPLETE THE APPLICATION WHICH
16:41:39 WILL BE DUE ON MARCH 31st, WHICH IS THURSDAY AT 5 P.M.,
16:41:47 EITHER IN ELECTRONIC FORM OR IN PERSON.
16:41:53 ON FRIDAY, APRIL 1st, THE COMPILED APPLICATIONS WILL BE
16:41:59 DISTRIBUTED TO YOU, COUNCIL.
16:42:03 THEN ON TUESDAY, APRIL 5th, INDIVIDUALS WILL BE GRANTED
16:42:10 A TWO-MINUTE PRESENTATION.
16:42:14 AND FOLLOWING THAT, THE SELECTION WILL BE BY BALLOT.
16:42:22 AND THEN THERE'S A RESOLUTION THAT WILL BE PASSED.
16:42:26 THAT'S ON APRIL 5th.
16:42:28 AND ON APRIL 7th, WHICH IS D-DAY, THE NEW COUNCILMEMBER
16:42:34 WILL BE ADMINISTERED THEIR OATH OF OFFICE, AND THEY WILL
16:42:38 TAKE THEIR SEAT.
16:42:41 HIS OR HER SEAT.
16:42:44 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO TAKE
16:42:49 PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE 5th OR NOT?
16:42:52 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: YES, THEY WILL MAKE A VOTE AS FAR
16:43:00 AS PUBLIC COMMENT.
16:43:00 >> NOT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
16:43:00 >> NOT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
16:43:00 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD MAKE THAT EXPLICIT
16:43:07 SO PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANY EXPECTATION THAT THERE WILL BE
16:43:08 PUBLIC COMMENT.
16:43:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, I WILL CONFIRM THAT.
16:43:14 >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE IF A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SHOW UP
16:43:16 EXPECTING TO SPEAK THEY WILL NOT BE HAPPY.
16:43:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING FOR THE
16:43:22 TWO-MINUTE INTERVIEWS.
16:43:24 AND SO I CAN PUT THAT ON THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING, THERE
16:43:32 WILL BE NO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
16:43:34 AS I RECALL, MS. FOXX-KNOWLES, THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE.
16:43:39 >>BILL CARLSON: WELL, IF IT'S ALLOWED WHEN WE COULD PUT A
16:43:42 SECOND SENTENCE SAYING HOWEVER PUBLIC COULD BE MADE -- AT
16:43:49 THE FOLLOWING THURSDAY MEETING PEOPLE COULD MAKE A REGULAR
16:43:51 PUBLIC COMMENT.
16:43:52 IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE NOT TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT.
16:43:54 IT'S JUST NOT TAKEN THAT DAY.
16:43:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, THURSDAY, MARCH 31st, IS A
16:43:59 MEETING THAT'S BEING SET, AND WE CAN SET PUBLIC COMMENT, IF
16:44:03 YOU LIKE, ON THE APPLICATIONS, IF PEOPLE WANT TO SPEAK TO
16:44:06 THE APPOINTMENT ON THAT DATE, COUNCIL.
16:44:10 ON THE 5th OR THE 7th.
16:44:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT IT'S GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
16:44:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
16:44:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIGHT, SO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE
16:44:21 DAY OF REVIEWING APPLICATION, THAT WOULD BE MARCH 31st
16:44:25 IS WHEN THE GENERAL COMMENT WOULD BE MADE.
16:44:27 THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT TUESDAY.
16:44:30 CORRECT?
16:44:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT.
16:44:33 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: JUST FOR THE APPLICANTS.
16:44:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BECAUSE I AM LOOKING AT THIS TIMELINE OF
16:44:37 APRIL 1st.
16:44:40 IF WE GET THE APPLICATION ON FRIDAY, I AM SURE YOU ARE GOING
16:44:43 TO GET IT BY NOON TIME, I WOULD IMAGINE.
16:44:46 AND THERE COULD BE A MULTITUDE OF APPLICATIONS THAT COME
16:44:49 OVER A WEEKEND TO BE READY FOR TUESDAY.
16:44:52 AM I CORRECT ON THAT?
16:44:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S RIGHT.
16:44:55 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: IN THE PAST WE HAVE HAD OVER 100.
16:45:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHOA, WHOA!
16:45:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS PART OF IT.
16:45:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW DOES THAT NARROW DOWN?
16:45:14 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: YOU WOULD NEED AT LEAST FOUR VOTES
16:45:20 TO BE ELECTED.
16:45:22 BUT INDIVIDUALS, IT WILL BE NARROWED DOWN BASED ON HOW MANY
16:45:29 VOTES YOU GET, LIKE --
16:45:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO IT'S NARROWED DOWN --
16:45:38 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: A SECOND BALLOT, OR THIRD BALLOT.
16:45:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THAT'S SET FORTH, BY THE WAY, COUNCIL,
16:45:43 IN YOUR NARRATIVE DESCRIPTION OF THE SELECTION PROCESS, FOR
16:45:50 INSTANCE, IN THE EVENT NO APPLICANT RECEIVES FOUR VOTES,
16:45:54 ONLY THE APPLICANTS RECEIVING THE GREATEST THE NEXT GREATEST
16:45:56 OR EQUAL NUMBER OF VOTES SHALL BE GENERALLY FOR ANOTHER
16:45:59 BALLOT.
16:45:59 THE CITY CLERK WILL REGISTER ANOTHER BALLOT.
16:46:01 THE CITY COUNCIL WITH ONLY THE NAMES LEGIBLE BEING THOSE OF
16:46:04 THE APPLICANTS IN THE RUNOFF, AND SHALL TALLY AND ANNOUNCE
16:46:08 THE RESULTS.
16:46:12 THE APPLICATION WHO RECEIVES FOUR OR MORE VOTES SHALL BE THE
16:46:15 PERSON SELECTED.
16:46:16 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: YES.
16:46:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND ALL COUNCILMEN WILL GET A COPY OF THE
16:46:23 APPLICATIONS?
16:46:24 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: WE WILL SEND THAT OUT.
16:46:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONCE IT'S APPROVED, THE APPLICATION, JUST
16:46:32 THE APPLICATION.
16:46:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
16:46:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, ANYTHING ELSE?
16:46:39 >>BILL CARLSON: THE ONLY VOTE IS A PAPER VOTE, NOT A HAND
16:46:42 VOTE, RIGHT?
16:46:43 IT'S NOT A VOICE VOTE?
16:46:45 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: IT'S A BALLOT.
16:46:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION WILL BE, HOW THE CLERK DOES
16:46:48 ANNOUNCE THAT NUMBER, AND I DISCUSS THAT WITH THE CLERK AND
16:46:54 THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, IN LIGHT OF RECENT COURT CASES JUST TO
16:46:58 MAKE CERTAIN WE DO IT OUR Is AND CROSS OUR Ts.
16:47:02 >>LUIS VIERA: AND BUILDING ON THE LAST QUESTION, JUST TO
16:47:05 CLARIFY, THE PAPER BALLOT, WILL SIGN WILL, CORRECT?
16:47:10 THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
16:47:11 THANK YOU.
16:47:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
16:47:15 ANYONE ELSE?
16:47:19 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: NO.
16:47:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION FOR THE OLYMPICS APPLICATION
16:47:24 PROCESS? CITRO, MANISCALCO.
16:47:25 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:47:26 ANY OPPOSED?
16:47:28 MOTION GRANTED.
16:47:30 WE HAVE THE APPLICATION PROCESS APPROVED.
16:47:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THIS APPLICATION PROCESS, MADAM CLERK,
16:47:34 WILL BE AVAILABLE ON NOON ON MONDAY.
16:47:37 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: NOON ON MONDAY.
16:47:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE, COUNCIL, AND THAT COMES THROUGH
16:47:40 THE CLERK'S OFFICE, CORRECT?
16:47:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
16:47:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE, COUNCIL, EVEN THOUGH THIS HAS BEEN
16:47:50 APPROVED -- NOON ON MONDAY, TO MAKE SURE?
16:48:01 >>THE CLERK: RIGHT.
16:48:02 AND THE APPLICATION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CORRECTED
16:48:04 AND I WILL FORWARD A COPY TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
16:48:09 IN ADDITION TO THE MOTION, THERE'S A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING
16:48:12 ON APRIL 5th JUST FOR THE RECORD?
16:48:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SCHEDULE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO
16:48:18 SCREEN THE APPLICANTS AND HEAR FROM THEM APRIL 5th AT
16:48:22 9:00 A.M.
16:48:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
16:48:24 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:48:26 ANY OPPOSED?
16:48:27 MOTION GRANTED.
16:48:30 MR. SHELBY, YOUR TURN, SIR.
16:48:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.
16:48:36 FIRST OF ALL, IF I DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE APRIL
16:48:40 7th MEETING ON YOUR CALENDAR, YOUR LAST ITEM IS THAT THE
16:48:46 CHIEF OF STAFF AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER APPEAR AND
16:48:48 DISCUSS THE COLLABORATIVE PROCESS BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION
16:48:51 AND THE COUNCIL FOR CREATING THE NEXT BUDGET.
16:48:53 I AM GOING TO ASK COUNCIL TO AMEND THAT TO HAVE INCLUDING
16:48:58 THE DISCUSSION OF THE CITIZENS BUDGET AND ADVISORY
16:49:00 COMMITTEE.
16:49:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
16:49:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
16:49:05 SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
16:49:07 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:49:09 ANY OPPOSED?
16:49:09 MOTION GRANTED.
16:49:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE LAST THING, COUNCIL.
16:49:12 RATHER SIGNIFICANT AND RATHER UNUSUAL.
16:49:14 BUT I AM GOING TO ASK FOR COUNCIL'S TO CONSIDER POSTPONING
16:49:19 NEXT WEEK'S CHARTER WORKSHOP, IN LIGHT OF THE EVENTS OF THIS
16:49:23 WEEK, AND I KNOW THAT IS UNUSUAL, BUT IN TALKING WITH THE
16:49:29 DIRECTOR OF THE INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENT AT USF, AND
16:49:34 REVIEWING WHAT HAS HAPPENED HAVING ONE COUNCILMEMBER NOT
16:49:38 PRESENT AND NOT BEING APPOINTED NOW UNTIL MARCH 7th
16:49:42 [SIC], IT WOULD BE OF GREATER VALUE TO COUNCIL TO HAVE A
16:49:47 FULL COUNCIL.
16:49:51 PARDON ME, APRIL 7Th?
16:49:53 WHAT DID I SAY, MARCH?
16:49:54 I'M LIVING IN THE PAST.
16:49:55 APRIL 7th.
16:49:56 FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
16:49:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
16:50:02 >>> I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE I WAS THINKING
16:50:04 ABOUT THAT.
16:50:04 WE HAD A POTENTIAL TIME HERE THAT WE HAD TO CONTINUE FOR
16:50:08 THAT ONE ITEM THAT WAS ALREADY CONTINUED.
16:50:10 WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED THIS MORNING WITH THE CHIEF.
16:50:12 IT COULD HAVE BEEN A TIE VOTE.
16:50:16 THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE WITH THE CHIEF.
16:50:18 AND BEING THAT WE HAVE AN EVEN NUMBER, YOU CAN'T HAVE A 4-3,
16:50:22 YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE TIES AND TIDES AND TIES.
16:50:25 SO BEING THAT THE CHARTER IS SO SIGNIFICANT, AND BASICALLY
16:50:29 THE CONSTITUTION OF THE CITY, AS LONG AS WE DON'T LOSE ANY
16:50:34 MONEY, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A FACILITATOR, AND I KNOW THAT
16:50:38 IT'S GOING TO COST US, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE POSTPONE THAT
16:50:42 TO THE NEXT WORKSHOP, THE NEXT MONTH OR WHATEVER IT TAKES,
16:50:47 SO WE HAVE THAT SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WE HAVE A FULL
16:50:50 COUNCIL, BECAUSE SOME ISSUES COULD BE CONTENTIOUS.
16:50:53 I DON'T KNOW.
16:50:53 BUT I DON'T WANT TIE VOTES, AND WE WASTE OUR TIME.
16:50:56 I WOULD RATHER IT BE A FULL COUNCIL AND WE GET WHAT WE WANT
16:51:00 DONE ON THAT SAID WORKSHOP DAY AND CONTINUING THIS.
16:51:02 SO MY QUESTION IS, WILL WE LOSE ANY MONEY?
16:51:07 I KNOW I ASKED THE LAST TIME, HOW MUCH IS THE FACILITATOR
16:51:11 COST?
16:51:12 AND IS IT A CONTRACT THAT WE SIGNED OR DIDN'T SIGN?
16:51:15 DID WE PUT A DEPOSIT? DO WE MAKE PAYMENTS FOR THAT?
16:51:18 ARE WE EFFECTED FINANCIALLY BY THAT?
16:51:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WE HAVE IS ACCEPTANCE OF THE PROPOSAL
16:51:23 BY COUNCIL, AND I HAVE HAD IT APPROVED THROUGH THE
16:51:25 ADMINISTRATION THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PURCHASING, AND THE
16:51:29 LIKE.
16:51:30 THERE IS NO SIGNED CONTRACT.
16:51:31 I DID SPEAK WITH ANDREA KRISTIN AND SHE ASSURED ME IT WAS
16:51:38 POSTPONED THAT THERE WOULD BE NO FINANCIAL IMPACT, AND IT'S
16:51:41 EARLY ENOUGH NOW FOR THE NEXT WEEK'S WORKSHOP MEETING IN THE
16:51:46 MORNING TO BE CANCELED, AND HAVE NO IMPACT ON FACILITATOR.
16:51:54 SO AS LONG AS IT'S NOT POSTPONED TOO LONG.
16:51:57 MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT TO WAIT TILL
16:52:00 AFTER THE COUNCIL APPOINTS THE SEVENTH MEMBER BEFORE YOU SET
16:52:05 THE DATE, THEN WE CAN SET THE DATE, THEN IT CAN BE A SPECIAL
16:52:09 CALL MEETING.
16:52:10 HOWEVER YOU WISH TO DO IT.
16:52:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY LAST QUESTION.
16:52:13 IF WE MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE CHARTER, ANYTHING THAT WE
16:52:16 PROPOSE, AND IT HAS TO GO TO A BALLOT, WHAT IS THE DEADLINE
16:52:19 FOR THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS? OR DOES IT MATTER IF WE
16:52:23 POSTPONE IT?
16:52:24 I AM LOOKING HERE LIKE MAY 26th, LIKE A LIGHT WORKSHOP
16:52:28 DAY.
16:52:29 AT THE APRIL WORKSHOP IT'S VERY BUSY.
16:52:31 BUT WHAT ARE THE LEAD LINES THAT WE HAVE SO WE DON'T
16:52:36 POSTPONE IT TOO FAR THAT WE LOSE GETTING IT ON WHATEVER WE
16:52:39 CHANGE, IF WE CHANGE ANYTHING?
16:52:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A WORKSHOP MEETING IS NOT GOOD.
16:52:45 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CHARTER ISSUES.
16:52:46 A WORKSHOP DAY IS JUST NOT GOOD.
16:52:48 IT HAS TO BE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
16:52:50 THAT'S WHY PREVIOUSLY WE MOVED EVERYTHING OFF THE WORKSHOP
16:52:53 TO ONLY DEAL WITH THE CHARTER ISSUE.
16:52:55 I JUST THINK THE CHARTER IS TOO IMPORTANT TO TRY TO HAVE
16:52:58 OTHER THINGS, TO TRY TO RUSH.
16:52:59 WE DON'T NEED TO RUSH IT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SPEAK
16:53:05 ON THAT AS WELL.
16:53:07 COUNCIL MEMBERS IDEAS AND SO FORTH AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT
16:53:10 THAT ON A WORKSHOP DAY UNLESS WE ARE SCRAPPING THE WORKSHOP
16:53:14 DAY.
16:53:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ON A TUESDAY, WE HAVE APRIL 12, WE HAVE
16:53:18 APRIL 19th, I BELIEVE.
16:53:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WHOEVER IS COMING ON
16:53:25 BOARD GETTING THEM UP TO SPEED.
16:53:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE SURE WE SELECT THE BEST CANDIDATE.
16:53:32 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S A GOOD POINT, MR. CHAIR.
16:53:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GET THEM UP TO SPEED REAL QUICKLY.
16:53:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, BUT YOU DO HAVE A GOOD QUESTION ABOUT
16:53:44 THE DEADLINES.
16:53:45 IF YOU WANT IT FOR THE NOVEMBER 8th GENERAL ELECTION IT
16:53:47 HAS TO BE AT THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, THE DEADLINE FOR
16:53:52 FINAL APPROVAL AUGUST 23rd OF THIS YEAR 2022.
16:53:56 THEY NEED TIME TO SECURE TRANSLATION.
16:54:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PLENTY OF TIME, SIR.
16:54:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WANT IT FORTUNATE CITY ELECTION
16:54:04 THAT DEADLINE IS JANUARY 20th OF NEXT YEAR.
16:54:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PLENTY OF TIME.
16:54:08 MR. CARLSON.
16:54:09 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO THINGS.
16:54:12 A QUESTION AND A STATEMENT.
16:54:14 COULD WE JUST MOVE THE WORKSHOP ITEMS OFF MAY 26th AND
16:54:18 MOVE THEM TO FUTURE BECAUSE AGAIN, THE PUBLIC EXPECTS TO
16:54:23 SHOW UP ON THURSDAYS, IF WE CAN MOVE THAT.
16:54:33 WHY NOT?
16:54:35 I MEAN, IF YOU -- MAY 26th --
16:54:40 >>BILL CARLSON: TOO FAR DOWN.
16:54:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD RATHER DO A SPECIAL CALL ON
16:54:45 TUESDAY IN APRIL, LIKE WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THE
16:54:48 APPLICANTS COMING IN ON TUESDAY.
16:54:49 I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
16:54:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A QUESTION OF COUNCIL.
16:54:56 BECAUSE THIS IS ALSO GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON THE
16:54:58 FACILITATORS' AVAILABLE.
16:55:00 SO IF COUNCIL WOULD GIVE ME THEIR DRUTHERS, AND REMIND
16:55:08 COUNCIL THAT YOU DO HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING SET FOR
16:55:11 THE APPOINTMENT, AND YOU ALSO HAVE A COMMENDATIONS ALREADY
16:55:16 SET ON A TUESDAY AS WELL.
16:55:17 SO IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL TUESDAY.
16:55:19 BUT IF YOU GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK NEXT WEEK AND
16:55:24 AVAILABLE DATES.
16:55:26 OR NOT AVAILABLE DATES, THEN WE COULD GIVE IT SOME
16:55:29 CONSIDERATION.
16:55:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
16:55:30 >>BILL CARLSON: SHE DID RAISE THAT ISSUE AND THAT WOULD BE
16:55:38 ONE OF THE CONTROLLING FACTORS.
16:55:39 >> I MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE.
16:55:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO IF IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, I KNOW IT'S
16:55:46 RATHER UNUSUAL, BUT IF COUNCIL WISHES TO CANCEL NEXT WEEK'S
16:55:50 WORKSHOP, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE MORNING FREE, AND YOU
16:55:54 WOULD HAVE THE NIGHT MEETING.
16:55:55 I KNOW IT'S SHORT NOTICE, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BEHOOVE YOU,
16:55:59 AND IT MIGHT BEHOOVE THE PROCESS.
16:56:01 AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE DISCUSSION I
16:56:03 HAD.
16:56:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SEVERAL DATES?
16:56:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL IN FINDING THE DATE
16:56:11 IF THIS PERSON IS UNAVAILABLE THEN COME BACK NEXT WEEK.
16:56:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT MR.
16:56:16 SHELBY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE FACILITATOR, SEE WHAT DATES
16:56:19 ARE NOT AVAILABLE, AND THEN WE CAN EASE THE PROCESS OR MAKE
16:56:22 IT EASIER FOR US TO SELECT A DAY WHICH WE COULD DO BY NEXT
16:56:26 THURSDAY'S EVENING SESSION.
16:56:27 IS THAT CORRECT?
16:56:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT.
16:56:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND WE'LL STILL MEET THE DEADLINE FOR
16:56:30 THE SUPERVISOR, AND WE ARE NOT KICKING IT FAR DOWN THE ROAD
16:56:34 WHERE THE PUBLIC THINKS THAT WE ARE HOARDING A TOPIC OR
16:56:38 ANYTHING NEGATIVE AND WE ARE STILL GETTING DOWN TO BUSINESS
16:56:40 WITH A FULL COUNCIL.
16:56:42 AND CANCEL --
16:56:44 >> DO THE THAT BY SEPARATE MOTION.
16:56:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THAT'S MY MOTION THAT WE DIRECT MR.
16:56:48 SHELBY TO DO THOSE THINGS.
16:56:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FIND OUT WHEN THEY ARE AVAILABLE AND COME
16:56:54 BACK -- IN THE MEANTIME, COUNCIL, INDIVIDUALLY, JUST GIVE IT
16:56:58 SOME THOUGHT, CHECK YOUR CALENDARS AND SEE WHAT WORKS BEST
16:57:01 FOR YOU.
16:57:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY CARLSON.
16:57:07 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:57:08 ANY OPPOSED?
16:57:09 MOTION GRANTED.
16:57:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN THE SECOND MOTION IS TO CANCEL THE
16:57:12 9 A.M. WORKSHOP ON MARCH 24th.
16:57:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND ON THAT?
16:57:19 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
16:57:21 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:57:22 ANY OPPOSED?
16:57:24 MOTION GRANTED.
16:57:24 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT.
16:57:29 YOU ALL MAY HAVE SEEN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT THIS MORNING BUT
16:57:32 THE COMMENT BY THE MAYOR'S SPOKESPERSON YESTERDAY, TODAY IN
16:57:35 THE TIMES, I THINK IT WAS 40 OR SO YEARS THAT THERE WAS NO
16:57:43 MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE CHARTER, AND THEN THE LAST COUNCIL,
16:57:46 WHICH WE HAVE THREE MEMBERS HERE, CREATED THE CHARTER REVIEW
16:57:51 COMMISSION, WHICH TWO OF US WERE ON IT, AND THE MEMBERS WHO
16:57:55 WERE HERE NOMINATED PEOPLE.
16:57:56 THAT CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION THEN RECOMMENDED A PROCESS
16:58:01 THAT THE VOTERS WENT ON AT LEAST EVERY TEN YEARS THERE WOULD
16:58:04 BE A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
16:58:06 I THINK THE MAYOR'S SPOKESPERSON SAID IN THE MEDIA THAT
16:58:11 GUDES AND I WERE TRYING TO CIRCUMVENT THE PROCESS OF THE
16:58:13 CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
16:58:14 THE CHARTER ALSO SAYS THAT CITY COUNCIL, AS WE ARE
16:58:18 PROPOSING, CITY COUNCIL COULD MAKE ANY AMENDMENTS WE WANT ON
16:58:21 THE BALLOT.
16:58:24 IF NO CITY COUNCIL HAD DONE THAT BEFORE, THAT'S UP TO THEM,
16:58:26 BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT JUST BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL AT
16:58:31 THE TIME PUT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION EVERY TEN YEARS
16:58:34 DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T BE UPDATED.
16:58:37 THERE'S NO PROCESS TO CIRCUMVENT.
16:58:39 WE ARE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS.
16:58:40 AND I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
16:58:41 THE SECOND THING, THERE'S LIKE A CONSPIRACY THEORY GOING
16:58:44 AROUND I THINK STARTED BY THE LAST MAYOR, AND YOU ARE TRYING
16:58:47 TO TAKE AWAY THE STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
16:58:49 NO.
16:58:50 ONE OF YOU MAY PROPOSE THAT, BUT WE HAVE SOME THINGS THAT
16:58:55 MAY BE TWEAKED JUST LIKE THE LAST TIME, ONE OF THE BASICS
16:58:58 THINGS WAS INSTEAD OF SAYING HE OR HIM, WE CHANGE IT TO HE,
16:59:02 SHE, ET CETERA, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT CONFUSING,
16:59:06 LIKE THE LAST TIME ONE OF THE THINGS WE CLEANED UP BECAUSE
16:59:09 OF THE PROBLEM IN THE LAST ADMINISTRATION WAS HOW LONG CAN A
16:59:12 NOMINEE BE INTERIM BEFORE -- BEFORE THEY HAVE TO BE
16:59:18 APPOINTED?
16:59:19 AND WE FIXED THAT PROBLEM.
16:59:20 BUT A NEW PROBLEM AROSE IS WHAT'S THE TITLE OF SOMEBODY WHO
16:59:24 HAS BEEN NOMINATED BUT NOT CONFIRMED?
16:59:26 AND I THINK IT'S WORTH US HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.
16:59:30 THAT'S NOT A POWER STRUGGLE WITH A STRONG MAYOR FORM OF
16:59:33 GOVERNMENT.
16:59:34 JUST CLARIFYING IT FOR THE PUBLIC.
16:59:36 AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER MINOR THINGS LIKE THAT I DON'T KNOW
16:59:38 WHAT YOU ALL WOULD PROPOSE.
16:59:39 BUT THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FIGHT WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE,
16:59:42 DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FIGHT WITH THE LAST MAYOR.
16:59:44 IT IS JUST A DISCUSSION TO CLEAR UP SOME LANGUAGE SO THAT WE
16:59:49 CAN AVOID CAUSING CONFLICT IN THE FUTURE.
16:59:52 THANK YOU.
16:59:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CARLSON.
16:59:55 I LOOKED AT SOME OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, AND PEOPLE
16:59:58 SAYING -- IN MY MIND SOME OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, IT
17:00:07 SEEMS LIKE THE WRITING HAS CHANGED.
17:00:09 I DON'T KNOW. BUT I LOOK AT A LOT OF THINGS IN THE CHARTER,
17:00:14 SITTING HERE AS A COUNCILMAN, I SEE HOW THE LAST COUNCIL HAD
17:00:18 ISSUES BECAUSE THINGS ARE JUST NOT CUT AND DRY, CLEAR.
17:00:21 MR. SHELBY HAD SOME TIME TO MAKE AN INTERPRETATION AND WE
17:00:25 HAD A FIGHT WITH LEGAL.
17:00:27 THERE ARE THINGS THAT COME UP NOW THAT HAVE TO BE CRYSTAL
17:00:31 CLEAR.
17:00:31 I LOOK AT THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE NOMINEE RIGHT NOW.
17:00:34 THAT PERSON IS A NOMINEE.
17:00:35 THAT PERSON CANNOT MAKE ANY JUDICIAL DECISIONS OR WHATEVER.
17:00:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OR TAKE A SALARY.
17:00:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OR TAKE A SALARY.
17:00:45 THAT PERSON CANNOT GO AROUND TALKING TO THE SENATORS
17:00:48 REFERENCE TO A CONFIRMATION.
17:00:50 AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF OUT OF BALANCE THE WAY WE ARE DOING
17:00:53 THINGS.
17:00:53 AND IT'S JUST MY OPINION.
17:00:55 I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT WHEN WE HAVE
17:00:58 OUR CHARTER REVIEW DISCUSSION.
17:01:00 BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CLEANING UP A FEW THINGS.
17:01:03 NOT CHANGING THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
17:01:04 JUST CLEANING SOME THINGS UP.
17:01:05 THE PUBLIC WANTS IT CLEAR AS WELL.
17:01:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL BE THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, BUT IF
17:01:12 YOU ARE LOOKING AT JUST THE CHIEF, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL
17:01:14 OF THEM.
17:01:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OH, YES.
17:01:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND CAN'T GET A SALARY, THE WHOLE THING.
17:01:21 GOT TO REALIZE THE EFFECT, THE POSITIVES AND THE NEGATIVES.
17:01:25 THAT'S ALL.
17:01:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ABSOLUTELY.
17:01:27 I AGREE.
17:01:29 ALL RIGHT, MR. SHELBY, ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU, SIR?
17:01:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
17:01:32 THANK YOU.
17:01:34 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO THINGS REAL FAST IF I COULD.
17:01:36 SOME POLICE OFFICERS HAVE TOLD ME THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE
17:01:41 EXPENSES THAT THEY HAVE TO INCUR, THAT THEY WOULD RATHER NOT
17:01:45 PERSONALLY INCUR, WHEN THEY RESPOND TO -- WHAT DO YOU CALL
17:01:49 IT, A RESPONSE?
17:01:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN THEY GO OUT TO A CALL.
17:01:56 >>BILL CARLSON: SO IF IT HAPPENS AS THEY ARE TRYING TO
17:01:58 RESPOND, THE CLOSEST PARKING SPACE IS A PRIVATELY OWNED
17:02:02 PARKING SPACE, AND THEY PARK THERE, IF THEY GET A TICKET FOR
17:02:05 THE PRIVATELY OWNED LOT OWNER, THEY HAVE TO PAY IT
17:02:08 PERSONALLY.
17:02:10 AND THE SAME THING, IF THEY --
17:02:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IN A MARKED POLICE CAR?
17:02:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
17:02:21 AND IF THERE ARE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES BY WHICH IF THEY ARE
17:02:24 RESPONDING WHEN THEY DRIVE THROUGH, A RED LIGHT CAMERA, THAT
17:02:28 THEY ALSO CAN GET TICKETS.
17:02:29 AND IT COULD BE IN BOTH CASES WE SHOULDN'T DO ANYTHING OR
17:02:32 MAYBE WE SHOULD.
17:02:33 BUT ANYWAY --
17:02:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE NEVER HEARD, EVEN IF YOU GO THROUGH
17:02:40 THE TOLL, DIDN'T HAVE A TOLL PIECE, OR -- EVEN UNMARKED CARS
17:02:46 HAVE A SPECIAL STICKER, SO --
17:02:50 >>BILL CARLSON: SO IN BOTH CASES, AND I CONFIRMED IT WITH
17:02:53 PBA THIS MORNING.
17:02:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
17:02:55 >>BILL CARLSON: IN BOTH CASE IT IS POLICE OFFICER HAS TO
17:02:57 PAY THOSE HIMSELF.
17:02:59 AND IT SEEMS TO ME UNLESS THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY BREAKING THE
17:03:01 LAW THAT THE CITY SHOULD REIMBURSE THEM.
17:03:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF THEY ARE WORKING FOR THE CITY.
17:03:09 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF
17:03:11 TO REPORT BACK ON MAY 5th WHETHER IT'S POSSIBLE OR
17:03:14 NECESSARY TO BE REIMBURSE POLICE OFFICERS FOR PRIVATE
17:03:16 PARKING TICKETS AND RED LIGHT CAMERA FINES INCURRED DURING
17:03:19 AN OFFICIAL RESPONSE.
17:03:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
17:03:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
17:03:25 OPPOSED?
17:03:26 >>BILL CARLSON: MAY 5th.
17:03:29 IF IT TURNS OUT IT'S COVERED IN SOME WAY AND SOME POLICE
17:03:33 OFFICERS DIDN'T NOBODY ABOUT IT, FINE.
17:03:35 BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP.
17:03:37 SECOND, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION GOING ON ABOUT THE ALL
17:03:41 FOR TRANSPORTATION MONEY, AND SOUND LIKE THE CITY COULD GET
17:03:45 BACK FROM 80 TO 120 MILLION AFTER THE REFUNDS.
17:03:48 WE DON'T KNOW YET.
17:03:49 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO REPORT TO
17:03:53 COUNCIL ON MAY 5th.
17:03:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
17:04:01 >>BILL CARLSON: TO RECEIVE -- SORRY, TO REPORT TO COUNCIL
17:04:05 ON MAY 5th AND RECEIVE COUNCIL AND PUBLIC INPUT AS TO
17:04:09 HOW TAMPA'S SHARE OF THE AFT MONEY SHOULD BE USED.
17:04:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND IF I CAN MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.
17:04:21 I THINK SUBSTANTIAL MONEY SHOULD BE USED FOR THE STREETCAR.
17:04:26 I GOT THE MAYOR'S SUPPORT ON THAT I'M SURE.
17:04:28 AND THE WEST TAMPA, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND I.
17:04:33 SO THE PEOPLE LISTENING TO -- 50th STREET.
17:04:40 BUT I THINK A GOOD CHUNK SHOULD GO TO ROAD REPAVING BECAUSE
17:04:43 IT'S LONG OVERDUE AND THE REST SHOULD BE DEDICATED TO
17:04:46 EXTENDING THE STREET CAR OR SOME INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC
17:04:49 TRANSPORTATION.
17:04:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I CAN THROW IN MY REMARKS, SIDEWALKS,
17:04:58 HALF A MILE FROM SCHOOLS.
17:04:59 >>BILL CARLSON: SO THE IDEA IS EVEN BEFORE THE MONEY COMES
17:05:06 IN, IF THE DECISION MAY NOT HAVE BEEN MADE BY MAY 5th,
17:05:10 LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION, HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, AND STAFF
17:05:12 AND CITY COUNCIL, TO WHAT OUR SUGGESTIONS ARE, ULTIMATELY WE
17:05:15 APPROVE THE BUDGET, SO LET'S GET OUR INPUT BEFORE THEY
17:05:18 DECIDE, INSTEAD OF US DECIDING ON A CONSENT AGENDA, LET'S
17:05:22 GET OUR FEEDBACK ON IT.
17:05:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO SECOND IT.
17:05:26 ALL IN FAVOR?
17:05:28 MOTION GRANTED.
17:05:30 MR. MANISCALCO.
17:05:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A FEW ITEMS TODAY.
17:05:32 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO
17:05:34 EL GALLO DE ORO, WILL BE CLOSING HIS DOORS FOR THE LAST
17:05:41 TIME.
17:05:42 THE ICONIC RESTAURANT IN WEST TAMPA DECIDED TO MAKE A NEW
17:05:47 START IN THE NORTHERN OCALA AREA.
17:05:51 I THINK IT'S CHIEFLAND. IS THAT NEAR OCALA?
17:06:06 BUT I WOULD LIKE -- OKAY, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HONORING THEM
17:06:10 FOR ALL THEIR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, AND REACH OUT TO
17:06:15 THEM, AND I HAVE EVERYTHING WRITTEN DOWN FOR THE CLERK.
17:06:20 SO WE HAVE IT RIGHT.
17:06:21 AND THAT'S IT.
17:06:24 APRIL 12th.
17:06:27 HERE.
17:06:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECONDED.
17:06:36 SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
17:06:38 ALL IN FAVOR?
17:06:39 OPPOSED?
17:06:40 MOTION GRANTED.
17:06:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND MY
17:06:42 CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF COOKIE GARCIA WHO PASSED AWAY.
17:06:48 I'M SURE EVERYBODY KNEW HIM.
17:06:51 INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY FOREVER.
17:06:55 I KNEW HIM THROUGH YBOR CITY LION'S CLUB.
17:07:03 FROM BACK IN THE DAY, NOW LEVINE?
17:07:07 MY MOTHER TOLD ME AND THEN I GOT CONFIRMATION YESTERDAY OR
17:07:10 THE DAY BEFORE.
17:07:11 BUT GREAT INDIVIDUAL, INVOLVED WITH TAMPA BAY SPORTS CLUB.
17:07:15 HE WAS JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL ALUM OF THE YEAR.
17:07:19 JUST SO MANY THINGS.
17:07:20 AND A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL FRIEND TO ME AND A LOT OF PEOPLE
17:07:24 HERE.
17:07:24 MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.
17:07:26 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY?
17:07:31 NORMA WAS DIVORCED FOR A LONG TIME BUT SHE LOVED HIM AND HE
17:07:34 WAS IN THE HOSPITAL AND OTHER THINGS, AND THEY HAD A GREAT
17:07:38 RELATIONSHIP.
17:07:38 SO CONDOLENCES.
17:07:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THAT'S IT.
17:07:43 AND THE LAST ITEM IS REGARDING ALLIED SECURITY.
17:07:46 WE HAVE THE SECURITY FOLKS HERE DOWNSTAIRS AND THOSE WHO
17:07:49 HELP ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
17:07:55 BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ALICE AT THE FRONT DESK AND ALEX
17:08:00 KNOWS WHO COMES IN AND OUT BUT THERE'S ALSO THE YOUNG LADY
17:08:03 WITH THE DARK HAIR WHO YOU SEE HAS BEEN WORKING THE SECOND
17:08:06 FLOOR, DONNA?
17:08:09 AND IT CAME TO MY ATTENTION THAT SHE WAS BEING REASSIGNED
17:08:12 OUT OF CITY HALL, AND SOMEBODY ELSE IS TAKING HER PLACE.
17:08:15 AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
17:08:16 AND HER CONCERN, SHE LOVED WORKING HERE.
17:08:19 I THINK TODAY MAY BE HER LAST DAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN
17:08:22 DO IF WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE SUPERVISOR OR SOMEBODY IN
17:08:25 CHARGE OF ALLIED.
17:08:27 THE THING IS, WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE HER WHO COMES IN
17:08:32 AND OUT OF CITY COUNCIL, CITY HALL, THEY BUILD RAPPORT WITH
17:08:36 THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF REGULAR SPEAKERS AND
17:08:39 WHATNOT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT
17:08:42 KNOW THE COMMUNITY, KNOW THE FACES COMING IN, AND THAT'S IT.
17:08:45 SO IT WILL BE MY RECOMMENDATION MAYBE TO JIM, WHO I KNOW HAS
17:08:49 BEEN COORDINATING AND WORKING WITH THE VIRTUAL SECOND FLOOR
17:08:52 AND ALL THAT, THAT WHATEVER WE CAN DO THAT SHE STAYS HERE
17:08:55 WITH US, I THINK SHOULD BE HERE, AND KEEP IT AS IS.
17:09:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT.
17:09:11 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
17:09:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE SEND A LETTER TO HIS OFFICE?
17:09:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHICH DEPARTMENT?
17:09:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF OF STAFF.
17:09:24 MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT THE CHAIR'S OFFICE SEND A LETTER OF
17:09:28 SUPPORT, THAT WE KEEP DONNA HERE WITH US AT CITY HALL.
17:09:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
17:09:34 ALL IN FAVOR?
17:09:37 OPPOSED?
17:09:37 MOTION GRANTED.
17:09:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT.
17:09:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
17:09:40 MR. CITRO.
17:09:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
17:09:46 WE HAVE ABBYE FEELEY AND CATE WELLS DISCUSSED SOME ITEMS
17:09:49 ABOUT CHAPTER 27 AT A WORKSHOP THAT WAS PRESENTED HERE.
17:09:53 AFTER THE INFORMATION THAT THEY GAVE US, WE TOOK NO ACTIONS
17:09:58 ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US.
17:10:01 BUT I HAVE MADE A MOTION THAT MS. FEELEY COME BACK AND
17:10:06 BRIEFLY, WE DISCUSSED THE ITEMS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.
17:10:09 SINCE WE TOOK NO ACTION, THERE IS NO NEED FOR HER TO COME
17:10:14 BACK ON THAT DATE, AND I WANT TO RESCIND THAT MOTION.
17:10:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
17:10:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
17:10:22 OPPOSED?
17:10:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I BELIEVE IT WAS JUNE 23rd.
17:10:29 JUNE 23rd.
17:10:31 JUNE 23rd.
17:10:35 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
17:10:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR?
17:10:41 OPPOSED?
17:10:41 OKAY.
17:10:45 MR. VIERA DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR US TODAY.
17:10:46 [ LAUGHTER ]
17:10:49 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING CONTROVERSIAL.
17:10:50 YOU ALL MAY HAVE SEEN THE MEMORIAL OUTSIDE BY THE GROUP
17:10:53 REMEMBERING OUR FALLEN.
17:10:55 I WANT TO GIVE THEM A CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION HIGHLIGHTING
17:10:58 LOCAL SOLDIERS KILLED IN ACTION.
17:11:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
17:11:01 ALL IN FAVOR?
17:11:02 OPPOSED?
17:11:03 MOTION GRANTED.
17:11:03 >>LUIS VIERA: THEN I WAS CONTACTED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA
17:11:06 AUTISM FRIENDLY COMMITTEE, THAT THEY WANTED TO SPEAK BEFORE
17:11:11 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR AUTISM AWARENESS MONTH, AND I THINK
17:11:15 ARE WE IN APRIL STILL DOING THE COMMENDATION WEEK?
17:11:20 >> ON THE 12th.
17:11:21 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I WILL DO IT FOR THAT DAY.
17:11:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
17:11:25 ALL IN FAVOR?
17:11:26 OPPOSED?
17:11:27 MOTION GRANTED.
17:11:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THEN LASTLY, SOMETHING I THOUGHT OF, I HAVE A
17:11:31 GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, SOME OF YOU ALL MET HIM, TIM REED WHO
17:11:35 HAS A VETERAN K-9 DOG WHO WAS IN AFGHANISTAN.
17:11:40 THE DOG HAD A LOT OF HEALTH PROBLEMS AND WHATNOT.
17:11:43 HE HAD TO KIND OF PAY FOR IT OUT OF POCKET.
17:11:45 EVEN THOUGH HIS DOG SAVED A LOT OF LIVES AND IT GOT ME
17:11:49 THINKING ON THE LOCAL LEVEL WHAT IS THE CITY OF TAMPA,
17:11:52 ESPECIALLY TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
17:11:53 WITH ITS K-9 DOGS AFTER THEY ARE FINISHED, THEY ARE ADOPTED,
17:11:59 BUT WHAT DO THEY DO FOR THEIR LONG-TERM CARE?
17:12:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONCE THEY ARE ADOPTED, A GOOD FAMILY, OR
17:12:09 THEY ARE ADOPTED.
17:12:11 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD LIKE TO INQUIRE.
17:12:12 AND CHAIRMAN GUDES, LET ME ASK YOU, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK
17:12:15 ABOUT SOME SORT OF A CITY PROGRAM TO HELP WITH THE
17:12:20 MAINTENANCE AND CARE OF THOSE K9 DOGS MANY OF WHOM HAVE
17:12:24 HEALTH CONDITIONS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE WORK THAT THEY DO
17:12:26 WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT?
17:12:29 SOME SORT OF A FUND OR SOMETHING?
17:12:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAYBE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS SOMETHING.
17:12:35 >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT I WILL DO THEN, IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY, I
17:12:37 WILL GET IT SET UP FOR THE FIRST WEEK IN MAY, IF I MAY, JUST
17:12:41 AS A WRITTEN REPORT, NO APPEARANCE.
17:12:43 THERE YOU GO.
17:12:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT THE MOTION WILL BE, IS IT CLEAR?
17:12:49 >>LUIS VIERA: TO ADMINISTRATION TO REPORT ON WHETHER OR NOT
17:12:52 THERE IS ANY FUND FOR CARE AND ASSISTANCE OF TPD DOGS ONCE
17:12:58 THEY ARE ADOPTED.
17:13:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
17:13:01 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
17:13:09 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THAT'S WHY I JUST WANT A REPORT.
17:13:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
17:13:13 ALL IN FAVOR?
17:13:14 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF BE THEY GET WITH ME BEFORE AND IT
17:13:16 TURNS OUT IT'S A NONISSUE THEN I WILL WITHDRAW IT.
17:13:19 THANK YOU, SIR.
17:13:20 AND GOOD MEETING TODAY.
17:13:22 IT WAS A HELL OF A MEETING.
17:13:23 THERE YOU GO.
17:13:24 HECK OF A JOB DONE.
17:13:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA?
17:13:28 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
17:13:33 >>LUIS VIERA: APRIL 12th.
17:13:34 YES, SIR.
17:13:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOTHING, SIR.
17:13:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AS YOU KNOW, WE GAVE VIVIAN HAWORTH A
17:13:45 COMMENDATION.
17:13:47 I WENT TO THE HOSPITAL TO GIVE IT TO HER.
17:13:52 I BELIEVE IN GIVING PEOPLE FLOWERS WHILE THEY ARE HERE.
17:13:54 SHE DID PASS AWAY.
17:13:56 SERVICES WILL BE AT NEW BETHEL BIBLE BAPTIST CHURCH, NORTH
17:14:00 BAY.
17:14:03 SATURDAY THE 19th AT 10 A.M.
17:14:05 THE WAKE WILL BE FRIDAY FROM 3 TO 8 P.M. AT THE WILSON
17:14:08 FUNERAL HOME.
17:14:09 AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE REFRESHMENTS 11:30 A.M. AT AL
17:14:18 BARNES PARK.
17:14:20 A LONG TIME ACTIVIST OUR COMMUNITY AND SHE FOUGHT A GOOD
17:14:25 FIGHT AND NOW HE'S TAKEN HER HOME.
17:14:26 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRENT A COMMENDATION TO
17:14:30 OLATHA LEGGETT, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CORNERSTONE KIDS AT
17:14:33 THEIR FUNDRAISER ON MARCH 31st, 2022 OFF-SITE.
17:14:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN GUDES.
17:14:40 SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.
17:14:42 ALL IN FAVOR?
17:14:43 ANY OPPOSED?
17:14:44 YES, SIR?
17:14:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT
17:14:49 COMMENDATION TO FAIR HOUSING CELEBRATION ON FAIR HOUSING
17:14:52 MONTH TO PRESENT AT THEIR EVENT ON APRIL 18th, 2022.
17:14:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN GUDES, SECOND FROM
17:15:00 MEMBER MIRANDA.
17:15:02 ALL IN FAVOR?
17:15:03 ANYTHING ELSE?
17:15:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I LOOKED AT THIS PACKET.
17:15:05 I GUESS IT'S SOMETHING DEALING WITH THE HANNA DPR, I DON'T
17:15:09 KNOW IF RECEIVED BY THE CLERK, RECEIVED AND FILED, THIS
17:15:13 PACKET.
17:15:14 JUST PUT IT AS A RECEIVE AND FILE.
17:15:19 BUT MR. JOE ROBINSON DISTRIBUTED IT TO EVERYBODY.
17:15:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE
17:15:30 THIS ITEM FROM CHAIRMAN GUDES.
17:15:32 IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.
17:15:35 ALL IN FAVOR?
17:15:36 ALL RIGHT.
17:15:36 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
17:15:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT, SIR.
17:15:38 MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
17:15:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RECEIVE AND FILE.
17:15:41 ALL RIGHT.
17:15:42 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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