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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 7, 2022
9:00 A.M.





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09:02:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY HALL.

09:02:47 I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

09:02:51 IT IS MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO INTRODUCE LEE BELL,

09:02:54 PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE YBOR CITY CHAMBER.

09:02:56 NO STRANGER TO THIS COMMUNITY, HE REPRESENTS THE

09:03:00 BUSINESS LEADERS, THE COMMUNITY LEADERS OF YBOR CITY.

09:03:03 A GENTLEMAN THAT REALLY NEEDS NO INTRODUCTION BECAUSE

09:03:06 HE IS EVERYWHERE, MANY EVENTS INVOLVED IN MANY

09:03:07 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.

09:03:12 MR. BELL, IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME ON FORWARD AND GO

09:03:17 AHEAD, SIR.

09:03:20 >> DEAR LOVING FATHER, LET ME SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF

09:03:23 OF ALL WHO ARE GATHERED HERE TODAY.

09:03:25 THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY AND ABUNDANT BLESSINGS.

09:03:28 THANK YOU FOR LIFE ITSELF.

09:03:32 FOR THE PLEASURE OF HEALTH, WE NEED TO FULFILL YOUR

09:03:33 CALLING.

09:03:35 FOR SUSTENANCE AND FOR FRIENDSHIP.

09:03:39 THANK YOU FOR YOUR ABILITY TO BE INVOLVED IN USEFUL

09:03:43 WORK AND FOR YOUR HONOR OF BEARING APPROPRIATE

09:03:45 RESPONSIBILITIES.

09:03:48 THANKS, AS WELL, FOR THE FREEDOM TO EMBRACE YOU OR THE

09:03:50 FREEDOM TO REJECT YOU.

09:03:54 THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVING US EVEN SO.

09:03:57 FOR YOUR BOUNDLESS AND GENEROUS NATURE.

09:03:58 AMEN.

09:03:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AMEN.

09:04:02 PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

09:04:16 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

09:04:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

09:04:19 WE WILL DO THE FIRST ROLL CALL.

09:04:20 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

09:04:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

09:04:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

09:04:24 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

09:04:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

09:04:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

09:04:31 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

09:04:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, YOU WANT TO GO OVER

09:04:35 NOW OR AFTER?

09:04:37 OKAY.

09:04:40 MY PLEASURE THAT WE GO TO THE SWEARING IN TO THE NEWEST

09:04:44 MEMBER OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, COUNCILMEMBER-ELECT

09:04:48 HURTAK WILL SOON TO BE COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.

09:04:49 HOW DO YOU WISH TO DO IT?

09:04:50 GO DOWN THERE.

09:05:03 SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES WILL DO THE SWEARING IN.

09:05:04 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: I -- STATE YOUR NAME.

09:05:07 >> I, AMANDA LYNN HURTAK, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL

09:05:13 SUPPORT, UPHOLD, AND DEFEND THE CHARTER AND ORDINANCES

09:05:21 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE

09:05:25 STATE OF FLORIDA AND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS

09:05:33 OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THAT I AM A RESIDENT

09:05:38 AND ELECTOR OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND AM ENTITLED TO

09:05:48 HOLD THE OFFICE OF COUNCILMEMBER OF THE CITY OF

09:05:54 TAMPA TO WHICH I HAVE BEEN APPOINTED AND

09:06:02 THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY PERFORM THE DUTIES OF SAID

09:06:07 POSITION INTO AND OF WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER.

09:06:14 SO HELP ME GOD.

09:06:19 I, AMANDA LYNN HURTAK, A CITIZEN OF THE STATE OF

09:06:24 FLORIDA AND OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND BEING

09:06:31 EMPLOYED BY OR AN OFFICER OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,

09:06:39 FLORIDA, AND RECIPIENT OF PUBLIC FUNDS AS SUCH EMPLOYEE

09:06:48 OR OFFICER DO HEARBY SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I

09:06:53 WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND

09:06:56 OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

09:06:58 >> CONGRATULATIONS.

09:07:17 [APPLAUSE]

09:07:18 >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.

09:07:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME TO THE FAMILY.

09:07:20 >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.

09:07:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS

09:07:28 BECAUSE MEMBERS OF THE -- THE COUNCILMEMBER'S FAMILY

09:07:29 ARE HERE.

09:07:33 FIVE-MINUTE RECESS FOR PHOTOGRAPHS AND WHATNOT, DO THE

09:07:36 NEW ROLL CALL AND START THE MEETING.

09:15:24 WE ARE IN RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.

09:15:25 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

09:15:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

09:15:27 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.

09:15:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

09:15:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

09:15:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

09:15:33 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

09:15:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, BEFORE YOU BEGIN,

09:15:42 USF STUDENT GOVERNMENT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TOURING CITY

09:15:43 HALL.

09:15:46 I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE HERE OR WILL BE COMING LATER,

09:15:47 BUT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM.

09:15:52 I DON'T SEE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, BUT GO BULLS.

09:15:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO BULLS.

09:15:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:15:58 GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, MARTIN

09:16:00 SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

09:16:03 TODAY IS THE 7TH DAY OF APRIL, 2022.

09:16:07 WE HERE AT OLD CITY HALL AND THIS IS A REGULAR AGENDA.

09:16:09 THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA

09:16:14 ARE ABLE TO WATCH AND VIEW THIS ON SPECTRUM,

09:16:20 FRONTIER, AND ON THE INTERNET AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.

09:16:24 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND HERE IN PERSON IN CITY

09:16:28 COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD, OR VIRTUALLY

09:16:30 PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING BY USING WHAT IS REFERRED AS

09:16:34 THE STATE OF FLORIDA STATUTES AS COMMUNICATION MEDIA

09:16:35 TECHNOLOGY.

09:16:38 KNOW TO SPEAK REMOTELY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THE

09:16:41 USE OF CMT, PREREGISTRATION IS REQUIRED AND THAT

09:16:43 INFORMATION IS ON THE AGENDA AS WELL AS ON THE NOTICE

09:16:45 OF TODAY'S MEETING.

09:16:50 AND ALSO THAT IS AVAILABLE ON TAMPA.GOV/CITY COUNCIL.

09:16:54 NOW TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY IN PUBLIC HEARINGS USING

09:16:59 CMT, PREREGISTRATION IS ALSO REQUIRED AND THAT IS

09:17:03 AVAILABLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE,

09:17:07 TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.

09:17:11 A NOTE TO THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE IN QUASI MATTERS

09:17:17 VIA CMT, SMARTPHONES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE, YOU MUST HAVE

09:17:23 ACCESS TO CMT WITH A TABLET, COMPUTER EQUIPPED WITH A

09:17:26 VIDEO AND MICROPHONE TO BE HEARD BY THE CITY COUNCIL

09:17:27 AND OTHER PARTICIPANTS.

09:17:31 WITH THAT BEING SAID, I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL -- I AM

09:17:34 GOING TO ASK COUNCIL TO WAIVE THE RULES FOR THE

09:17:36 CONTINUATION OF CMT.

09:17:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:17:40 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:17:42 ALL IN FAVOR.

09:17:43 OPPOSED?

09:17:44 HOUSEKEEPING.

09:17:47 ITEM NUMBER 1 PER REQUEST OF COUNCILMAN VIERA.

09:17:50 A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO APRIL 21, SIR?

09:17:52 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

09:17:55 WE HAD A MISS TIFFANY DAVIS FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT MONTH

09:17:59 AND UNABLE TO MAKE IT BUT IS ON APRIL 21 IF I MAY.

09:18:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND

09:18:05 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

09:18:07 ALL IN FAVOR.

09:18:07 OPPOSED.

09:18:08 VERY GOOD.

09:18:14 ITEM NUMBER 47, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE HERE TO REMOVE

09:18:15 ITEM 47.

09:18:17 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM

09:18:18 THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

09:18:21 I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE PETITIONER REGARDING

09:18:23 THIS ITEM AND IN DISCUSSION WITH THE PETITIONER, WE ARE

09:18:26 ASKING FOR THIS ITEM TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.

09:18:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO REMOVE.

09:18:29 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

09:18:31 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:18:31 ALL IN FAVOR.

09:18:32 OPPOSED.

09:18:34 ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 78.

09:18:37 IF I CAN HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS UP TO BE HEARD

09:18:39 AFTER ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.

09:18:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION.

09:18:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

09:18:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED?

09:18:44 ALL RIGHT.

09:18:47 ITEM -- STAFF REPORT 66-79.

09:18:50 PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF WE NEED ANY STAFF PRESENT FOR ANY

09:18:52 OF THESE ITEMS.

09:18:55 ITEM NUMBER 66.

09:19:02 THIS IS 400 -- WELL, $850,000 ITEM.

09:19:08 ACTUALLY, THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE 66 TO MAY 5,

09:19:12 2022 TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL TIME MOTION FROM

09:19:14 COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:19:15 ALL IN FAVOR.

09:19:18 THAT WILL BE CONTINUED MAY 5, 2022.

09:19:21 ITEM 67 IS A $3 MILLION CONTRACT.

09:19:23 BRAD BAIRD SENT A MEMO.

09:19:25 DO WE NEED HIM PRESENT FOR THIS?

09:19:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM SATISFIED.

09:19:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY?

09:19:32 MR. BAIRD, YOU ARE NOT NEEDED FOR 67.

09:19:36 ITEM 68, AN ITEM WITH MR. BAIRD OF $5 MILLION.

09:19:39 DO WE NEED THE GENTLEMAN PRESENT AT THAT TIME FOR THAT?

09:19:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I ASKED A QUESTION OF MR. BAIRD

09:19:44 INCLUDED IN THE PURE PROJECT.

09:19:45 I AM SATISFIED.

09:19:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 69, $6.2 MILLION.

09:19:55 ALSO MR. BAIRD, ANYBODY HAVE REQUEST TO HAVE HIM

09:19:56 PRESENT.

09:19:59 >>BILL CARLSON: FOLLOW ON WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN CITRO

09:20:02 AND I ASKED MR. BAIRD IF HE WAS PART OF THE PURE

09:20:04 PROJECT AND HE SAID NO SO I AM SATISFIED.

09:20:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DON'T NEED MR. BAIRD FOR 69.

09:20:12 ITEM 70, A MEMORANDUM FROM CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP.

09:20:13 A $3 MILLION ITEM.

09:20:17 DO WE NEED CHIEF TRIPP PRESENT FOR 70?

09:20:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE SPOKEN TO CHIEF TRIPP, I AM

09:20:21 SATISFIED.

09:20:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

09:20:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NUMBER 70, CHIEF TRIPP WILL NOT

09:20:28 NEED TO BE IN PERSON.

09:20:34 ITEM 71 IS A $1.5 MILLION ITEM ALSO PART OF 70, PART

09:20:35 TWO OF TWO.

09:20:35 ANY QUESTIONS?

09:20:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH CHIEF TRIPP.

09:20:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, NUMBER 72 IS A STAFF

09:20:46 REPORT ON THE VILA BROTHERS PARK WHICH IS MY ITEM.

09:20:48 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE SHOULD -- JUST FOR THE SAKE

09:20:50 OF THE PUBLIC WE SHOULD HAVE --

09:20:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AGREE.

09:20:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK SO WE SHOULD TOO.

09:20:56 I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MISS MARTHA VILA AND OTHER

09:20:59 IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.

09:21:03 I HAVE THE REPORT, BUT I WOULD LIKE THE PUBLIC TO

09:21:03 HEARING.

09:21:08 72, MISS OCEA WYNN TO BE PRESENT.

09:21:09 NUMBER 73.

09:21:12 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, FOR 73, WE HAVE A DETAILED

09:21:13 MEMO.

09:21:15 I AM GOING TO MOTION FOR THIS TO RETURN TO US IN 60

09:21:17 DAYS.

09:21:21 FOR TAMPA FIRE STATION 24.

09:21:27 IT NOTES, I GUESS, THE USF PART OF TOWN, 33647 AND

09:21:28 WHATNOT.

09:21:32 I DON'T THINK WE NEED CHIEF TRIPP HERE FOR THIS BUT I

09:21:34 WILL SPEAK ON THIS WHENEVER THE TIME COMES.

09:21:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUNE 2 AND JUNE 16.

09:21:38 THOSE ARE REGULAR SESSIONS.

09:21:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, THAT IS GREAT.

09:21:41 JUNE 2, IF I MAY.

09:21:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO

09:21:45 CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER --

09:21:47 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, SIR, THANK YOU.

09:21:50 NOT TO CONTINUE BUT TO HAVE IT COME BACK FOR AN UPDATED

09:21:52 REPORT FOR THE TWO STATIONS AND THEIR STATUS.

09:21:56 SO WE WILL DEAL WITH IT TODAY, BUT IT WILL COME BACK

09:21:57 FOR CONTINUED SCRUTINY.

09:21:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN YOU SAY DEAL WITH IT TODAY,

09:22:02 YOU WANT STAFF TO COME ON THAT ITEM TODAY?

09:22:06 >>LUIS VIERA: WHENEVER THE ITEM COMES UP WE CAN

09:22:09 DISCUSS IT AND I WILL TALK ABOUT MY THOUGHTS BUT I

09:22:11 DON'T NEED CHIEF TRIPP HERE.

09:22:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU WANT TO HOLD THE MEMO -- OR

09:22:15 MAKE A MOTION THEN.

09:22:17 >>LUIS VIERA: I CAN DO IT NOW.

09:22:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR

09:22:21 JUNE 2 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

09:22:24 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

09:22:25 ALL IN FAVOR.

09:22:25 ALL RIGHT.

09:22:28 ITEM NUMBER 74.

09:22:31 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, SIR -- NO, THAT WAS YOURS,

09:22:32 SORRY.

09:22:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY MOTION.

09:22:35 HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT?

09:22:37 >>LUIS VIERA: I ASSUMED IT WAS MINE.

09:22:38 VIERA, CITRO.

09:22:39 TO RESCHEDULE.

09:22:42 YEAH, I DON'T -- AGAIN, I JUST WANTED SOME INFORMATION

09:22:43 HERE.

09:22:45 THE REPORT IS VERY DETAILED.

09:22:48 I DON'T -- FOR THE SAKE OF THE STAFF, I DON'T NEED THEM

09:22:49 HERE.

09:22:54 WE CAN DISCUSS IT IF ANYBODY NEEDS ANY ANYTHING.

09:22:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL DISCUSS IT WITH STAFF.

09:22:59 ITEM 75, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.

09:23:03 COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOUR MOTION REGARDING RESPONSE TIMES

09:23:03 --

09:23:06 >>LUIS VIERA: I AM SORRY, MAY I --

09:23:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL COME BACK TO YOU, IF YOU

09:23:08 WANT.

09:23:15 ITEM NUMBER 76, A MEMO FROM OCEA WYNN, PARKS AND REC.

09:23:17 REPORT ON A YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL.

09:23:20 THAT IS A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:23:22 WOULD YOU LIKE SOMEONE PRESENT, SIR?

09:23:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

09:23:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 76 WILL HAVE SOMEONE

09:23:26 PRESENT.

09:23:30 ITEM NUMBER 77, THIS IS A MOTION ORIGINALLY FROM

09:23:31 DINGFELDER, SECONDED BY CARLSON.

09:23:36 THIS IS -- THIS IS SPECIFIC POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO

09:23:39 DISCUSS REQUIREMENTS INCENTIVES BASED ON THE FLORIDA

09:23:40 MODEL AND RESEARCH.

09:23:42 DO YOU WISH TO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE?

09:23:47 WE DO HAVE A REPORT FROM STEPHEN BENSON.

09:23:49 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK IT WILL BE WORTH A COUPLE OF

09:23:53 MINUTES, IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE, TO SEE IF ANYTHING WE CAN

09:23:53 DO.

09:23:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STEPHEN BENSON AVAILABLE FOR 77.

09:23:58 CHIEF OF STAFF AND CEO.

09:24:00 I KNOW THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS HERE.

09:24:03 THE COLLABORATIVE OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL OF

09:24:07 CREATING THE NEXT BUDGET.

09:24:10 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:24:13 WAS THE BUDGET ADVISORY COUNCIL GOING TO APPEAR IN

09:24:14 PERSON, SIR?

09:24:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY DISCUSSED IT AT THEIR MEETING,

09:24:21 AND THEIR CHAIR JOSEPH JOHNSON WILL BE IN THE CHAMBERS

09:24:22 AND AVAILABLE.

09:24:24 >>BILL CARLSON: THE PURPOSE OF THIS -- I TALKED TO THE

09:24:27 CFO YESTERDAY, THE PURPOSE OF THE MOTION TO HAVE THE

09:24:30 CFO HEAR FROM US WHAT OUR IDEAS ARE ABOUT HOW THE

09:24:32 PROCESS SHOULD BE HANDLED.

09:24:36 LAST YEAR OR TWO, CHIEF OF STAFF PROPOSED A PROCESS TO

09:24:39 GET FEEDBACK FROM US WHICH IS A LOT BETTER THAN THE WAY

09:24:42 THINGS HAVE BEEN BEFORE BUT YOU MAY HAVE IDEAS HOW IT

09:24:44 CAN BE DONE BETTER.

09:24:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KEEP AT LEAST CHIEF OF STAFF AND

09:24:49 MR. ROGERO HERE.

09:24:52 AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE CITIZENS BOARD.

09:24:53 ALL RIGHT, THAT'S THAT.

09:24:54 79.

09:24:56 TO DISCUSS AN ADDITIONAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO BE

09:25:00 ADDED TO THE CALENDAR TO ADDRESS THE BACKLOG.

09:25:02 THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS COUNCILMAN VIERA.

09:25:04 I SECONDED IT.

09:25:05 ANYTHING, SIR?

09:25:09 >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY, LOOKING FOR SOMETHING ON 75.

09:25:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABOUT ADDING AN ADDITIONAL COUNCIL

09:25:14 MEETING.

09:25:15 OKAY.

09:25:19 AND LAST, MR. SHELBY REGARDING CHARTER REVIEW WORKSHOP,

09:25:20 OF COURSE, YOU ARE HERE.

09:25:23 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.

09:25:27 75 WAS GOING TO BE AN IN-PERSON REPORT FOR CHIEF TRIPP

09:25:28 WHENEVER THAT COMES OUT.

09:25:31 APPEARS THERE IS NO REPORT FOR THAT.

09:25:35 IF MY UNDERSTANDING WAS INCORRECT, I WILL JUST HAVE

09:25:37 ADMINISTRATION FOLKS CONTACT ME IN THE MEANWHILE IF MY

09:25:39 UNDERSTAND SOMETHING INCORRECT.

09:25:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO ONE -- CHIEF TRIPP NOT HERE FOR

09:25:43 75.

09:25:45 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, FOR THE TIME BEING.

09:25:49 IN OUR BREAK OR WHATEVER I WILL DISCUSS -- I HAD

09:25:51 A MISUNDERSTANDING.

09:25:55 I TYPICALLY TRY TO -- IF STAFF DOESN'T NOT NEED TO BE

09:25:56 HERE I TYPICALLY TRY NOT TO HAVE THEM.

09:25:59 BUT THIS MAY NECESSITATE THAT.

09:26:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PARTICULAR BE CLEAR.

09:26:07 ARE YOU ASKING CHIEF TRIPP TO BE ON STAND BY FOR THAT?

09:26:10 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL STEP OUTSIDE AND SPEAK WITH HER

09:26:12 IN THE MEANWHILE TO SEE IF IT NECESSITATES.

09:26:15 FOR NOW, YES, SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

09:26:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

09:26:20 THAT CONCLUDES THE LIST THAT I HAVE -- YES, MA'AM?

09:26:25 WE HAVE A LETTER FROM ANDREW CARNEGIE REQUESTING THAT

09:26:28 ITEM NUMBER 58 BE CONTINUED TO MAY 5.

09:26:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THIS IS A 10:30 PUBLIC HEARING.

09:26:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

09:26:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE IT UP AT THAT

09:26:36 TIME.

09:26:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY 5 AT 10:30 TIME CERTAIN.

09:26:41 DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE --

09:26:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIR, NO.

09:26:46 WE CAN NOT DO THAT BECAUSE YOU CANNOT CONTINUE IT UNTIL

09:26:48 SOME TIME AFTER 10:30.

09:26:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL LEAVE THAT.

09:26:50 I AM SORRY.

09:26:55 SAME THING FOR ITEM NUMBER 60, A 10:30.

09:26:56 ITEM.

09:26:58 AND NUMBER 62 THE MOTION TO WITHDRAW.

09:27:00 WE WILL DO THAT WHEN WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AT

09:27:01 10:30.

09:27:02 ANYTHING ELSE?

09:27:06 IF NOT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

09:27:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO MOVED.

09:27:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.

09:27:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?

09:27:11 ANY OPPOSED?

09:27:14 ALL RIGHT, CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES -- NOT CEREMONIAL BUT

09:27:15 NECESSARY.

09:27:17 WE HAVE THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO

09:27:21 UPDATE COUNCIL ON PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

09:27:22 THERE IS A POWERPOINT.

09:27:25 FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION, HE WILL GO TO PUBLIC

09:27:26 COMMENT.

09:27:30 IS FDOT AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON?

09:27:35 YES, SIR, MR. VBIDE.

09:27:38 >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

09:27:42 FDOT IS AVAILABLE AND SHOULD BE LOGGING IN RIGHT NOW.

09:27:46 WE HAVE CRAIG FOX, PROJECT MANAGER WITH FDOT.

09:27:50 BEFORE CRAIG GETS GOING, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THE TWO

09:27:54 PROJECTS THAT FDOT IS GOING TO PRESENT TODAY AND HOW IT

09:27:56 FITS INTO OUR STRATEGY.

09:27:59 THE FIRST IS TAMPA AND FLORIDA, MULTIMODAL PROJECT.

09:28:05 THIS WAS, OF COURSE, THE RAISE GRANT THAT BOTH FDOT AND

09:28:05 THE CITY WON.

09:28:09 AND FDOT WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SUPPLEMENT FUNDING TO

09:28:11 COMPLETE THE PROJECT FUNDING.

09:28:16 THIS PROJECT IS CRITICAL TO SUPPORT OUR STREETCAR

09:28:21 EXTENSION, THE VRT PROJECT THAT BOTH HART AND THE CITY

09:28:24 IS WORKING ON.

09:28:28 TOD PLANS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH HEART ON TO ENSURE

09:28:31 THAT WE BUNDLE HOUSING AND TRANSIT TOGETHER.

09:28:34 AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE ARE GOING TO DO MORE OF

09:28:36 CITYWIDE.

09:28:43 AND THEN FINALLY THE FOWLER AVENUE PIECE OF THE VRB

09:28:47 PROJECT THAT WILL CONNECT DOWNTOWN TO USF WHICH IS IN

09:28:51 THE CITY AND REGION'S LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

09:28:53 SO BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS ARE CRITICAL.

09:28:56 THEY WILL BRING ALL KINDS OF IMPROVEMENTS.

09:29:02 PARTICULARLY OUR COMMITMENT TO LOW TO NO COST ACCESS

09:29:05 FOR TAMPANIANS TO JOBS.

09:29:08 HAVING SAID THAT, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO CRAIG FOX.

09:29:10 CRAIG, TAKE IT AWAY.

09:29:13 >>CRAIG FOX: THANK YOU, VIK.

09:29:15 AND THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.

09:29:24 I JUST NEED THE ABILITY OR GRANTED THE ABILITY TO SHARE

09:29:25 MY SCREEN.

09:29:27 I DON'T THINK I HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW.

09:29:29 IF SOMEBODY CAN GRANT ME THAT ABILITY.

09:29:30 THERE WE GO.

09:29:34 THANK YOU.

09:29:35 ALL RIGHT.

09:29:37 CAN EVERYBODY SEE THE SCREEN?

09:29:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

09:29:42 >> EXCELLENT, THANK YOU, CRAIG FOX WITH FLORIDA DOT.

09:29:46 AND WE WILL GET INTO THE UPDATE ON THE TWO PROJECTS.

09:29:50 THE TAMPA STREET FLORIDA AVENUE MULTI MODAL PROJECT.

09:29:52 THE PROJECT LIMITS OF THIS PROJECT FROM FOWLER STREET

09:29:55 ON THE SOUTHERN END TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.

09:29:57 BOULEVARD ON THE NORTHERN END.

09:29:59 THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO BE

09:30:01 BROKEN OUT IN PHASED CONSTRUCTION.

09:30:04 SO WE WILL HAVE ONE PORTION GO FIRST AND THE SECOND

09:30:06 PORTION TO THE NORTH GO OVER IT.

09:30:10 BUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC, IT WILL LOOK LIKE THIS WHOLE

09:30:11 PROJECT.

09:30:14 THE WORK TO BE DONE IS IT WILL PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR

09:30:16 FUTURE TRANSIT LANE.

09:30:20 PROVIDE NEW AND UPGRADED DRAINAGE IN AREAS WHERE TODAY

09:30:23 THERE ARE -- SOME PLACES NO DRAINAGE EXISTS BECAUSE THE

09:30:25 ROAD IS SO OLD.

09:30:30 ROTARY RECONSTRUCTION BRINGING UP TO MODERN STANDARDS.

09:30:33 AND SIDEWALKS AND SPOTS AND INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS

09:30:37 THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT CORRIDOR.

09:30:40 THE EXISTING TYPICAL SECTION IS ON THE SCREEN.

09:30:46 AND IT RANGES FROM TEN THREE-FOOT TO 12-FOOT LANES TO

09:30:51 FIVE FOOT TO SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT SIDEWALK IN CERTAIN

09:30:52 AREAS.

09:30:55 NOW WHAT I HAVE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN IS THE PROPOSED

09:30:58 ULTIMATE TYPICAL SECTION THAT INVOLVES A LANE REDUCTION

09:31:04 THAT WILL ADD AN EXCLUSIVE LANE ON NORTH CHANNEL STREET

09:31:06 AND NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE AND PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY

09:31:08 FOR WIDER SIDEWALKS.

09:31:11 I WANT TO KNOW THIS IS A PROPOSED SECTION.

09:31:14 AS WE KNOW HART IS CURRENTLY GOING AFTER -- SEEKING

09:31:15 ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

09:31:19 ONCE THAT FUNDING IS REALIZED WE WILL BE ADD THE

09:31:20 ELEMENTS.

09:31:23 LIKE VIK MENTIONED, THIS IS PROVIDING A LOT OF THE

09:31:27 GROUNDWORK FOR IMPORTANT DRAINAGE SUBJECTS TO GET AHEAD

09:31:30 OF THE STREETCAR SO WE DON'T COME BACK IN THE FUTURE TO

09:31:33 INTERRUPT THE STREET CAR LINE AND CREATE A SPACE FOR

09:31:37 FUTURE ENHANCED VRT.

09:31:42 AND YOU MAY NOT SEE IT FOR THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE

09:31:46 ULTIMATE TYPICAL SECTION AND THAT IS EASY TO LENT

09:31:53 BECAUSE ADDED CURBS HERE AND THERE IN ORDER TO MAKE

09:31:55 THAT VRT HAPPEN.

09:31:58 NEXT TO TOUCH ON THE ANALYSIS OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

09:32:02 OBJECTIVE LEVEL OF SERVICE WHICH IS A KNOWN CONCERN

09:32:05 WHENEVER WE REDUCE LANES ON A ROADWAY.

09:32:09 WE SHOW NO-BUILD INTERSECTION OF SERVICE IN THE DESIGN

09:32:12 YEAR AND THE NEXT SLIDE, I HAVE THE BUILD CONDITIONS.

09:32:21 THIS IS AN OPTION WITHOUT THE BRT LINES AND WITH THE

09:32:21 LANES.

09:32:23 I HIGHLIGHTED THE INTERSECTIONS THAT CHANGE THE LEVEL

09:32:26 OF BEFORE -- I WILL SWITCH BACK THE REPORTS.

09:32:32 GOES FROM C TO D WHICH IS NOT THAT DRASTIC OF A CHANGE

09:32:41 AND IN FLORIBRASK A ISLAND AND NO-BUILD WITH A D.

09:32:43 AND A LITTLE IMPROVEMENT AND THE REST OF THE CORRIDOR

09:32:46 YOU DON'T SEE REDUCTION IN LOCAL SERVICES.

09:32:49 VERY GOOD THAT WILL HAVE THAT INCREASED TRANSIT WITHOUT

09:32:53 DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS TO THE ROADWAY.

09:32:56 THE DESIGN IS IN PROGRESS AS WE SPEAK.

09:33:01 CONTRACT PROCUREMENT IS SLATED TO BEGIN SUMMER OF 2022.

09:33:06 AND CONSTRUCTION SLATED TO BEGIN IN SPRING OF 2023.

09:33:10 NOW THE NEXT PART I WANT TO MENTION FOWLER AVENUE

09:33:13 MULTIMODAL PROJECT.

09:33:16 THE STUDY GOES FROM THE WEST END OF FLORIDA

09:33:19 TO THE EAST END AT 56TH STREET.

09:33:23 TWO MAJOR COMPONENTS WITHIN THIS PROJECT, THEY ARE

09:33:27 HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SCREEN AS A MEDIAN GUIDEWAY AND

09:33:28 INTERSECTIONS.

09:33:34 ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THE MEDIAN GUIDE.

09:33:37 AND INCREASE THE EFFECTIVELY OF THE ROADWAY BETWEEN

09:33:40 BRUCE B. BOULEVARD.

09:33:44 AND THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE LIMITS OF THE STUDY WE ARE

09:33:47 LOOKING TO ADD ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROADWAY WHENEVER

09:33:48 POSSIBLE.

09:33:49 THE STUDY BEGINS THIS SPRING.

09:33:51 WE JUST FINISHED NEGOTIATIONS AND ANTICIPATING

09:33:54 EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT VERY SHORTLY.

09:33:58 THE PUBLIC ALTERNATE WORKSHOP THAT WILL OCCUR LATE '22

09:34:00 AND EARLY 2023.

09:34:03 WILL BEGIN AS EARLY AS 2024.

09:34:04 CONSTRUCTION IS 2026.

09:34:08 I DO WANT TO NOTE, AGAIN, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH TIED IN

09:34:12 WITH THE HART STUDY OF ARTERIAL BRT.

09:34:16 SO THE CONSTRUCTION FUNDING MAY BE DEPENDING ON THE

09:34:19 AVAILABILITY PART TO PROVIDE THE OPERATION AND

09:34:20 MAINTENANCE FOR THAT ROUTE.

09:34:24 WE WANT TO GET ALL THE GROUNDWORK OUT OF THE WAY AND

09:34:26 STUDY OUT OF THE WAY SO THE DEPARTMENT IS NOT DELAYING

09:34:29 ANY FUTURE TRENDS ALONG THIS CORRIDOR BUT A VERY

09:34:30 EXCITING PROJECT.

09:34:33 I WILL GO TO THE THREE ALTERNATIVES FOR THE MEDIAN

09:34:35 GUIDEWAY PORTION.

09:34:37 BUSINESS EXIT TRANSIT LANE.

09:34:40 ALL THREE OPTIONS, YOU WILL NOTICE WE ARE REDUCING THE

09:34:43 LANE ON FOWLER AVENUE FROM FOUR LANES TO THREE LANES,

09:34:46 GENERAL PURPOSE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.

09:34:49 THE FIRST OPTION IS THE BUSINESS TRANSIT LANE.

09:34:51 WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THESE ONE IN CONSTRUCTION IN

09:34:54 PINELLAS COUNTY WITH PSTA.

09:34:56 THEY WILL OPEN LATER THIS SUMMER AND AN EXAMPLE FOLKS

09:34:59 CAN LOOK AT FOR THE TRANSIT LANE.

09:35:02 THE SECOND ALTERNATIVE IS A FRONTAGE ROAD SYSTEM SHOWN

09:35:05 ON THE SCREEN AND THIRD ONE IS THE MEDIAN TRANSIT WAY.

09:35:08 WE ARE DEFINITELY EXCITED FOR THIS PROJECT.

09:35:09 WE LOOK TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC CLOSER

09:35:12 TO THE END OF THE YEAR TO GET MORE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION

09:35:18 AND GO IN AND SELECT THE TRANSIT ALTERNATIVE.

09:35:21 SO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME THIS

09:35:24 MORNING AND REMIND EVERYBODY THAT SAFETY DOESN'T HAPPEN

09:35:25 BY ACCIDENT.

09:35:28 AND NOW LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

09:35:29 THANK YOU.

09:35:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:35:33 WONDERFUL PRESENTATION ON SOME OF OUR BUSIEST

09:35:37 CORRIDORS, TAMPA STREET, FLORIDA AVENUE, THEY WERE NOT

09:35:38 THOSE ONE-WAY STREETS.

09:35:41 60 YEARS AGO WHEN THE TRAFFIC PATTERN CHANGED THROUGH

09:35:44 THE HEIGHTS AND SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND TAMPA HEIGHTS.

09:35:48 AND GOOD TO SEE IT IS GOING BACK TO A PEDESTRIAN FOCUS

09:35:51 INSTEAD OF JUST MOVING CARS ON THE ROAD.

09:35:54 IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS ON TAMPA STREET, YOU KNOW,

09:35:55 THEY ARE NEVER NEAR CAPACITY.

09:35:58 THEY ARE NEVER -- I MEAN IT'S MY -- I DON'T USE THE

09:35:59 INTERSTATE.

09:36:02 I GET DOWNTOWN, TAMPA STREET.

09:36:07 CITY HALL IN 12 MINUTES OR LESS, BUT ALSO WE HAVE

09:36:10 PEOPLE WHO BIKE GOING DOWN TAMPA STREET COMING INTO

09:36:12 DOWNTOWN FROM THE HEIGHTS AND REVERSE DIRECTION OF

09:36:14 FLORIDA AVENUE AND IT IS VERY, VERY DANGEROUS.

09:36:16 THOSE ARE NECESSARY.

09:36:20 FOWLER AVENUE, ALSO BUSCH BOULEVARD, ANOTHER BUSY, BUSY

09:36:21 ROAD.

09:36:24 COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS WORKED VERY, VERY HARD TO MAKE

09:36:27 SURE THAT THOSE ROADS CHANGE WHERE THEY ARE SAFER.

09:36:29 WE HAVE ADOPTED VISION ZERO.

09:36:34 WE EMBRACE THOSE POLICIES, BUT WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT THE

09:36:38 RIGHT LAN TO ENFORCE THOSE.

09:36:39 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:36:41 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE SAID THIS MANY TIMES BUT FOWLER

09:36:45 AVENUE AND BUSCH BOULEVARD ARE TAMPA'S GATEWAY TO THE

09:36:45 WORLD.

09:36:48 MOST OF THE CEOS I MET IN LATIN AMERICA AND OTHER

09:36:52 PLACES WHO HAVE BEEN TO TAMPA MOSTLY ONLY HAVE BEEN TO

09:36:55 BUSCH GARDENS AND STAY IN ORLANDO, STAY ON THE BEACH

09:36:57 AND COME TO BUSCH GARDENS.

09:37:01 THEIR IMPRESSION OF COMPANY IS FOWLER AVENUE AND BUSCH

09:37:02 BOULEVARD.

09:37:05 PLANS BACK TO LINDA SAUL-SENA TO TRY TO BEAUTIFY THOSE

09:37:06 ROADS.

09:37:08 GLAD YOU ARE WORKING ON THE PLANS YOU SHOWED FOR FOWLER

09:37:10 AVENUE.

09:37:14 SOME PLAN TO BEAUTIFY IT OR THE CITY IS PARTNERING WITH

09:37:17 D.O.T. TO BEAUTIFY THAT AND MAKE IT MORE OF A GATEWAY

09:37:17 TO THE WORLD.

09:37:21 THE IDEA IS IF WE PUT ON A GOOD IMPRESSION, THEY WILL

09:37:25 WANT TO MOVE HERE, INVEST HERE AND SET UP THEIR

09:37:26 OVERSEAS OPERATION IN.

09:37:28 THANK YOU.

09:37:33 >> YES, AS FAR AS BEAUTIFICATION AND AESTHETICS GO, IN

09:37:36 THE STUDY, NOT SOMETHING -- WE IDENTIFIED LANDSCAPE

09:37:39 OPPORTUNITIES, BUT IT IS JUST BETTER FOR THOSE WHO BE

09:37:41 HANDLED DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS BUT WE ARE ENGAGING

09:37:45 -- WE ARE GOING TO BE ENGAGING IN ROBUST PUBLIC

09:37:47 ENGAGEMENT TO GET INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR

09:37:50 POTENTIAL AESTHETICS.

09:37:53 THE STUDY ITSELF, NOT A PART OF IT BECAUSE BETTER TO

09:37:56 HANDLE IT IN DESIGN AND MORE INFORMATION OF THE

09:37:59 DIMENSIONS OF THE ROAD AND WHERE YOU CAN FIT CERTAIN

09:38:01 AESTHETICS.

09:38:02 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.

09:38:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE ELSE?

09:38:04 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

09:38:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:38:07 ONE THING I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION

09:38:10 THINK THAT REALLY LIKE IS, IT HAS A DIALOGUE ON A LOT

09:38:15 OF STREETS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT WERE -- THAT WERE

09:38:15 VERY UNSAFE.

09:38:17 BUT NOT ALWAYS IN THE NEWS.

09:38:21 LET'S JUST CALL A FACT A FACT.

09:38:23 WHICH IS A LOT OF TIMES TRAGEDY THAT HAPPENS ON

09:38:27 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, ON REVEREND MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD,

09:38:33 JR., ON BUSCH, ON FLORIDA, NEBRASKA AND FOWLER AND DO

09:38:37 NOT MAKE THE NEWS FOR ONE REASON OR THE OTHER BUT THEY

09:38:38 GOT TO MAKE OUR COUNCIL.

09:38:40 THEY GOT TO MAKE OUR CITY.

09:38:43 THEY GOT TO MAKE FDOT BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE THE

09:38:44 MOST TRAGEDIES.

09:38:46 ALL OF THE PARTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA HAVE TO BE

09:38:50 PROTECTED 110% BUT WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON AREAS WHERE WE

09:38:53 HAVE THESE SIGNIFICANT HUMAN TRAGEDIES THAT JUST SEEM

09:38:55 TO HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

09:38:57 IF YOU GOOGLE WHAT ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS STREETS IN

09:38:59 TAMPA, THESE ARE GOING TO COME UP.

09:39:05 HILLSBOROUGH, MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR., BUSCH, NEBRASKA,

09:39:08 FOWLER, ETC.

09:39:10 WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON THAT.

09:39:13 I WILL PROBABLY MAKE A MOTION AT THE END FOR SOMETHING

09:39:16 OF THIS NATURE TO COME BACK MAYBE IN A WORKSHOP IN

09:39:20 THREE TO FOUR MONTHS ON SOME OF THESE ROADS BECAUSE WE

09:39:22 HAVE TO CONTINUE TO UTILIZE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN.

09:39:25 THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO, I THINK, IS WE

09:39:28 OBVIOUSLY HAVE FDOT AND STATE DOLLARS THAT SAID WE CAN

09:39:32 UTILIZE AND HOPEFULLY EFFECTIVELY IN A SMART WAY THAT

09:39:34 IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS MAKING SURE

09:39:36 THAT WE CAN USE REVENUE THAT COMES FROM THE WILL OF THE

09:39:37 PEOPLE.

09:39:40 YOU KNOW YESTERDAY, THERE WAS A -- A DISCUSSION HELD IN

09:39:43 COUNTY COMMISSION ON A SALES TAX.

09:39:47 AND I -- AND I WILL SAY IT -- I SAID IT IN '16 WHEN I

09:39:50 RAN AND I SAID IT IN '18 WHEN WE VOTED FOR

09:39:50 TRANSPORTATION.

09:39:53 '19 WHEN I RAN AGAIN AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN.

09:39:55 WE NEED ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO MAKE TAMPA AND

09:39:57 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SAFE AND TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT

09:40:00 PEOPLE BETTER AND BRING US TO THE 21ST CENTURY.

09:40:03 REALLY TO BRING US TO THE 20TH CENTURY, IF YOU ASK ME,

09:40:06 IN SOME WAYS AND THAT IS A REALLY CRITICAL THING.

09:40:09 WITHOUT THAT MONEY, WE COULD CATCH A BREAK FROM

09:40:13 TALLAHASSEE FOR THE REVENUE WE RECOUPED OVER THE LAST

09:40:13 TWO YEARS.

09:40:15 WITHOUT THAT MONEY IN THE FUTURE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE

09:40:17 MAJOR PROBLEMS.

09:40:19 CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE MAJOR PROBLEMS.

09:40:22 READ ABOUT THESE TRAGEDIES CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.

09:40:24 I WANTED TO PUT MY THOUGHT ON THAT.

09:40:27 THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND FOCUS ON

09:40:28 THESE AREAS.

09:40:29 I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

09:40:31 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

09:40:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:40:34 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THE WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.

09:40:41 THANK YOU, SIR.

09:40:42 YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:40:45 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MARTIN -- I HAVE

09:40:47 MY CITY ISSUED CELL PHONE.

09:40:51 TODAY, I WAS NOT ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO A LAPTOP, AND I

09:40:56 WOULD LIKE ACCESS TO SIRE SO MY AIDE DOESN'T HAVE TO

09:40:58 PRINT THE 400 PAGES.

09:41:01 SIRE AND HAVE IT ON THE CELL PHONE.

09:41:06 AM -- I AM NOT LOOKING AT TEXT MESSAGES -- AM I ALLOWED

09:41:10 TO LOOK AT SIRE ON MY CITY ISSUED CELL PHONE.

09:41:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD SAY YES.

09:41:15 YOU ARE SAYING USE YOUR CITY CELL PHONE TO ACCESS SIRE

09:41:18 AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE VIEWING DURING THE

09:41:20 COURSE OF THE MEETING.

09:41:23 >>BILL CARLSON: I AM DOING IT FOR TRANSPARENCY, BUT

09:41:25 MEMBERS OF THE ADMINISTRATION ARE LOOKING TO TRY FIND

09:41:28 THE SMALLEST MISTAKES, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE

09:41:31 PUBLIC KNOWS THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING.

09:41:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:41:34 SEEING NOTHING ELSE ON ITEM NUMBER 2.

09:41:35 GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:41:39 IF YOU ARE HERE IN PERSON, AS YOU APPROACH THE LECTERN,

09:41:49 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

09:41:51 YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

09:41:51 GO AHEAD.

09:41:54 >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.

09:41:55 I'M HERE THIS MORNING.

09:41:59 I WANT TO STAY WELCOME TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

09:42:00 GLAD TO SEE YOU ARE HERE.

09:42:02 TUESDAY, I SAT IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM WATCHING MANY

09:42:05 GREAT CITIZENS SPEAK TO WHY THEY WOULD BE THE CANDIDATE

09:42:06 FOR CITY COUNCIL.

09:42:09 AS I WATCHED, I WONDERED, WOULD WE HAVE FOUR VOTES FOR

09:42:13 THE MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE DESPITE THE MAYOR'S

09:42:14 ENDORSEMENT OF ANOTHER.

09:42:17 I WAS ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT THE RETALIATION OF THE VOTE.

09:42:20 WELL, THAT DIDN'T TAKE BUT A DAY.

09:42:25 FOR THE RECORD, I MAKE NO MONEY, ZIP, NADA FOR COMING

09:42:27 HERE, FOR WORKING FOR THE CITIZENS.

09:42:30 AT ONE TIME, I CONSIDERED RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

09:42:33 AND IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, IT HAS SHOWN ME THERE

09:42:36 IS NOT A CHANCE OF THAT EVER HAPPENING, BECAUSE FOLKS

09:42:40 WHO SIT UP THERE CONSTANTLY ARE IN JEOPARDY OF MAKING A

09:42:43 VOTE THAT MAKES THEM THE NEXT TARGET.

09:42:46 ALL FOR A WHOPPING $53,000 A YEAR.

09:42:47 NOPE.

09:42:48 THANKS ANYWAY.

09:42:52 I HAVE MET QUITE A FEW GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE IN

09:42:53 DEVELOPMENT.

09:42:56 AND LOTS OF GOOD LAND USE ATTORNEYS WHO ARE HONORABLE

09:43:00 PEOPLE WHO DO THINGS THE WAY THAT THE ETHIC RULES

09:43:01 STATE.

09:43:03 AND THEN THERE ARE THOSE PEOPLE WHO FEEL LIKE THE RULES

09:43:05 DON'T APPLY TO THEM.

09:43:08 THEY SET THEIR PHONES ON AUTO DELETE TEXT MESSAGES,

09:43:13 ONLY TALK ON PHONES SO THERE ISN'T ANY RECORD OF

09:43:13 CONVERSATIONS.

09:43:16 OR THEY GET OUT OF CARS AND LEAVE CITY FOLKS ALONE WITH

09:43:19 PEOPLE BIDDING ON PROJECTS AND WANT TO BE THE FOURTH

09:43:23 VENDOR ON A PROJECT WHERE THREE VENDORS HAVE ALREADY

09:43:24 BEEN ACCEPTED.

09:43:26 I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT THE MAYOR DECIDED YESTERDAY

09:43:30 TO BRING OUT THE TALK ABOUT LOBBYISTS.

09:43:33 I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET CITY STAFF TO LOOK AT THE

09:43:35 LOBBYIST REGISTRATION FOR MONTHS.

09:43:38 LOBBYISTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REGISTERING.

09:43:42 IT ISN'T THE JOB OF ANY CITY OFFICIALS OR STAFF MEMBERS

09:43:45 TO REGISTER.

09:43:48 SO WHY SPEAK ABOUT THEM AT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE

09:43:51 ATTACKING CITY COUNCIL?

09:43:52 FOLLOW THE FLIES.

09:43:55 THANKS, KEELA, I LOVE THE TERM.

09:43:59 I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING MORE APPROPRIATE ABOUT --

09:44:01 ABOUT STATEMENT ABOUT THE STINK OF WHAT IS GOING ON

09:44:02 DOWN HERE.

09:44:07 I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THE ETHICS COMMITTEE MEETS ON APRIL

09:44:11 12 AT 1:00 ON THE FIFTH FLOOR OR 21ST AT 3 P.M. I AM

09:44:13 EXCITED TO SEE IT.

09:44:15 THANK YOU TO CREATIVE LOAFING AND THE TIMES FOR

09:44:17 REPORTING ACCURATELY YESTERDAY.

09:44:18 THANK YOU.

09:44:24 THANK YOU TO CHANNEL 10 FOR PUBLICIZING COUNCILMAN

09:44:27 CARLSON'S RESPONSE TO THE MAYOR'S PRESS CONFERENCE

09:44:30 WHERE SHE PULLED OUT THE TERM "FAKE NEWS."

09:44:33 CITY COUNCIL IS OUR LEGISLATIVE BODY.

09:44:35 THEY HAVE EIGHT EMPLOYEES INCLUDING MR. SHELBY AND

09:44:37 EIGHT LEGISLATIVE AIDES.

09:44:39 THEY HAVE NO PUBLICIST.

09:44:42 THE CHARTER SAID YOU SHOULD HAVE A BUDGET ANALYST ON

09:44:44 STAFF, YET YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE.

09:44:47 THEY ARE IGNORED BY THE CITY'S PUBLIC AFFAIRS

09:44:50 DEPARTMENT UNLESS SOMEONE ACCIDENTALLY GETS IN A

09:44:51 PICTURE WITH THE MAYOR.

09:44:53 WHO DO ALL THESE PEOPLE WORK FOR?

09:44:55 HAVE A GOOD DAY.

09:44:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:45:00 ALL RIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER.

09:45:03 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

09:45:08 >> HI, MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.

09:45:11 IMPOSSIBLE TO COUNT ALL THE TIMES I WENT BEFORE THIS

09:45:13 CITY COUNCIL AND THE PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL.

09:45:14 ALL THE HOURS SPENT WATCHING FROM HOME.

09:45:18 THE BEST CITY COUNCILMEMBERS ARE THE ONES NOT BEHOLDEN

09:45:20 TO ANYONE OR AFRAID OF ANYONE.

09:45:25 THE ONES WHO HAVE A STRONG MORAL COMPASS AND DO WHAT IS

09:45:28 RIGHT EVEN IT IS NOT POLITICALLY BENEFICIAL.

09:45:31 THE BEST ONES HAVE INQUIRING MINDS AND HAVE QUESTIONS

09:45:33 OF THE FOR THE CITIZENS.

09:45:36 THEY DO THEIR HOMEWORK AND LISTEN.

09:45:40 JOHN DINGFELDER WAS THAT KIND OF COUNCILMAN.

09:45:41 MANY MEMBERS OF THIS CITY COUNCIL.

09:45:44 THAT IS WHY THIS CITY COUNCIL IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN

09:45:45 THE LAST CITY COUNCIL.

09:45:48 I AM GLAD YOU HAD THE COURAGE TO ELECT LYNN HURTAK.

09:45:51 I AM CONFIDENT SHE WILL BE INDEPENDENT, COURAGEOUS

09:45:54 AND ALWAYS LISTEN TO HER CONSTITUENTS AND DO WHAT SHE

09:45:57 SINCERELY BELIEVES IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

09:45:59 MANY RESIDENTS HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME OF ALL THE

09:46:02 CURRENT TURMOIL IN THEIR GOVERNMENT.

09:46:03 NEEDLESS TO SAY THEY ARE NOT HAPPY.

09:46:07 THEY WANT EVERYONE TO STOP THE NONSENSE AND GOVERN

09:46:10 COLLABORATIVELY AND LISTEN TO THE REGULAR PEOPLE, NOT

09:46:11 JUST THE DEEP POCKETS.

09:46:13 I AM GOING TO READ TO YOU SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT

09:46:15 CITIZENS HAVE SENT TO ME.

09:46:18 CA, TOM, WHY DON'T YOU SAY THAT YOU SPEAK FOR ALL

09:46:21 OF US NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATES AND SUPPORT CITY COUNCIL.

09:46:24 ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO RESIST SKETCHY DEALS AND WE WANT

09:46:29 CITY DOWN CONTINUE TO QUESTION WHEN PEOPLE AREN'T ABOVE

09:46:32 BOARD AND TRANSPARENT WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.

09:46:34 TAMPA RESIDENTS ARE USED TO HAVING HONEST GOVERNMENT

09:46:37 AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE HONEST AND ABOVE

09:46:38 REPROACH.

09:46:40 THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF THE

09:46:42 CITY I NEVER SEEN IT HAPPEN BEFORE.

09:46:46 WE NEED TO PRAY FOR BILL AND GUDES, TOO SO THEY DON'T
,
09:46:46 RESIGN.

09:46:49 THAT MAY BE PART OF THEIR STRATEGY TO WEAR THEM DOWN.

09:46:52 KIND OF LIKE THE SLAP LAWSUITS BUT WITH EMOTIONAL

09:46:53 PRESSURE.

09:46:56 THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT WHAT THEY SIGNED UP FOR.

09:47:01 BOY, BILL C. WAS VERY ANGRY IN THIS INTERVIEW.

09:47:02 SICK OF THE LIES.

09:47:03 HE REACHED HIS LIMIT.

09:47:06 SO GLAD HE SPOKE OUT AGAINST THIS.

09:47:08 THEY JUST NEED TO DO THEIR JOBS, AND LET COUNCIL DO

09:47:09 THEIRS.

09:47:11 CHECKS AND BALANCES, PEOPLE, THAT IS WHAT GOVERNMENT IS

09:47:12 SUPPOSED TO BE ALL ABOUT.

09:47:15 BUT THEY DON'T ALL WANT CHECKS AND BALANCE.

09:47:16 THEY WANT IT ALL.

09:47:17 MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY.

09:47:20 THE RULES APPLY TO EVERYONE ELSE BUT NOT TO THEM.

09:47:21 ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU WANT TO SCREAM.

09:47:24 I JUST WANT ALL THIS DIRT TO COME OUT SO THAT

09:47:28 DINGFELDER, CARLSON AND GUDES CAN BE VINDICATED.

09:47:31 POOR BILL, I DON'T WANT HIM GETTING SICK OVER IT.

09:47:33 HE LOOKS VERY EXHAUSTED.

09:47:33 [LAUGHTER]

09:47:38 IT MUST BE VERY DRAINING AND TERRIFYING KNOWING THAT

09:47:40 THEY ARE WATCHING YOUR EVERY MOVE AND ARE OUT TO GET

09:47:41 YOU.

09:47:44 TO SMEAR YOUR GOOD NAME, RUIN YOUR GOOD REPUTATION AND

09:47:47 RUIN YOUR POLITICAL CAREER AND RUIN YOU FINANCIALLY.

09:47:50 THAT IS A TERRIBLE WAY TO HAVE TO LIVE AND DO THE

09:47:53 PUBLIC'S BUSINESS, AND ALL SO UNNECESSARY.

09:47:56 IT'S GOT TO WEAR A PERSON DOWN, WHICH IS WHY I THINK

09:48:00 HE EXPLODED TODAY, NOT TO MENTION THE HIGH HYPOCRISY --

09:48:05 THE HIGH HYPOCRISY THAT REALLY IS BEYOND THE PALE,

09:48:05 THANK YOU.

09:48:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:48:16 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

09:48:20 >> GOOD MORNING, LORAINE PARRINO, A THIRD GENERATION

09:48:21 TAMPA HISPANIC NATIVE.

09:48:25 I HAVE BEEN WATCHING WHAT IS COMING FROM JANE CASTOR'S

09:48:26 OFFICE AND I AM APPALLED.

09:48:29 NEVER IN MY LIFE HAVE I SEEN TAMPA GOVERNMENT IN SUCH

09:48:32 TURMOIL SINCE SHE BECAME MAYOR.

09:48:33 THIS IS WHAT I OBSERVED SO FAR.

09:48:37 A CITY COUNCILMAN SERVED THE PUBLIC HONORABLY CARRYING

09:48:42 OUT THE WISHES WAS ACCUSED OF A LEGALITY AND THEN HAD A

09:48:45 SCINTILLA SCANDAL ATTACHED TO HIS NAME AND GINA GRIMES

09:48:49 WAS PERFECTLY HAPPY TO COLLECT HER CITY SALARY REFUSING

09:48:52 TO DEFEND HIM AND SO WE TAMPA RESIDENTS LOSE AN

09:48:54 IMPORTANT VOICE ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.

09:48:56 WE LEARNED THAT THE CITY HAS COMMISSIONED A 60-PAGE

09:49:00 REPORT AND PAID TWO LAW FIRMS $100,000 OF MY TAXPAYER

09:49:03 MONEY TO ACCUSE ANOTHER CITY COUNCILMAN, WHO IS ALSO

09:49:06 REPRESENTING HIS CONSTITUENTS, OF CREATING A HOSTILE

09:49:09 WORKPLACE BECAUSE HE HAS A POTTY MOUTH.

09:49:13 A POTTY MOUTH DOES NOT DISQUALIFY COUNCILMAN GUDES FROM

09:49:15 SERVING.

09:49:17 WE LEARN THAT THE REPORT IS 300 PAGES AND THE CITY ONLY

09:49:19 RELEASED 60 PAGES TO THE PUBLIC.

09:49:20 WHAT?

09:49:23 LAST WEEK, WE LEARNED THAT THE SAME ATTORNEY THAT SUED

09:49:26 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS REPRESENTING COUNCILMAN GUDES'

09:49:27 ACCUSER.

09:49:30 WHO IS PAYING HIS LEGAL FEES BECAUSE HE DOESN'T COME

09:49:31 CHEAP.

09:49:34 AND THAT THE CITY IS NOT USING MY TAXPAYER MONEY TO

09:49:38 REMOVE ANOTHER CITY COUNCILMAN FROM OFFICE BEFORE NOW

09:49:42 NEVER HAD A SIN TRAIL OF SCANDAL YOU ATTACHED.

09:49:46 HIS ACCUSER WROTE TO THE CITY TELLING THEM TO PLEASE

09:49:47 STOP.

09:49:49 THE HARASSMENT CASE AGAINST COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:49:51 DID THEY RESPECT HER WISHES?

09:49:53 NO, WHY?

09:49:55 BECAUSE WHAT THE ACCUSER WANTS IS NOT THE POINT.

09:49:58 THE POINT WHAT JANE CASTOR WANTS TO PRESSURE COUNCILMAN

09:50:02 GUDES TO RESIGN AND FAILING THAT, THE CITY HAS THIS

09:50:05 VERY WEAK CASE TO THE GOVERNOR TO SEE IF HE CAN REMOVE

09:50:07 THE THORN IN CASTOR'S SIDE.

09:50:10 DO NOT LET THE GOVERNMENT REMOVE YOU FROM YOUR ELECTED

09:50:11 OFFICE COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:50:14 YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING THAT WILL DISQUALIFY YOU FROM

09:50:16 OFFICE.

09:50:20 JANE CASTOR HAD TO HAVE HER BFF MARY O'CONNOR AS CHIEF

09:50:22 OF POLICE AND PLACED IN THE CHIEF'S POSITION EVEN

09:50:25 BEFORE SHE WAS CONFIRMED AND RETIRED SIX YEARS BEFORE

09:50:28 AND LET HER POLICE CERTIFICATION LAPSE.

09:50:33 EVEN THOUGH JANE CASTOR HAD ZERO HISPANICS PASSED OVER

09:50:38 REUBEN DELGADO AND SUBJECTED THE PUBLIC FOR THE DOG AND

09:50:43 PONY SHOW WHERE EVERY POLICEMAN AND FIRE FIGHTER.

09:50:47 WHO DIDN'T COME TO ENDORSE, NOT ONE POLICE CHIEF, STATE

09:50:48 ATTORNEY.

09:50:52 I HAVE NOT MENTION THE ROME, HANNA STREET AND PURE.

09:50:56 I CAN'T IMAGINE A WHO HOSTILE CITY COUNCIL THAN WHAT

09:50:57 JANE CASTOR.

09:51:04 I LIKEN IT WITH JURASSIC PARK, SAFETY SHIELDS AROUND

09:51:06 PREDATORS LOOKING TO DESTROY YOU IN ANY WAY.

09:51:08 NOT THE WAY GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

09:51:13 BEFORE SHE BECAME MAYOR.

09:51:15 WE TAMPA RESIDENTS ARE FED UP.

09:51:18 JANE CASTOR ACCUSED CITY COUNCILMEMBERS THE EVERYTHING

09:51:22 THAT SHE AND HER ATTORNEYS, HOSTILE WORKPLACE

09:51:26 ENVIRONMENT, VIOLATING SUNSHINE LAWS.

09:51:31 THE PERSON WHO NEEDS TO RESIGN IS JANE CASTOR.

09:51:35 SHE IS NOT COMPETENT OR WORTHY TO RUN A BIG CITY LIKE.

09:51:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:51:43 ALL RIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER.

09:51:44 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:51:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING.

09:51:51 >> MY NAME IS KEELA MCCASKILL, LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF.

09:51:55 CONGRATULATIONS COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.

09:51:57 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR CREATE

09:52:00 THIS FOCUS ON TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

09:52:03 YOU KNOW BASED ON THE RECENT CHAIN OF EVENTS, YOU KNOW,

09:52:06 COMING FROM THIS CITY COUNCIL AND THIS ADMINISTRATION,

09:52:09 I BELIEVE THAT WE FAILED -- FROM THE COMMUNITY'S

09:52:12 PERSPECTIVE, WE FAILED TERRIBLY AT TRANSPARENCY AND

09:52:13 ACCOUNTABILITY.

09:52:17 IN FACT I RECOMMEND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT WE

09:52:19 FAILED, I BELIEVE THE CITY COUNCIL, SOME OF THE MEMBERS

09:52:20 WOULD AGREE THAT WE FAILED.

09:52:22 I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT HOW CITY COUNCIL OR SOMEBODY

09:52:25 ON THE LEGAL STAFF, SOMEBODY CAN ASSIST US.

09:52:27 MAYBE INVITE THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IN TAMPA AND

09:52:31 OPEN IT UP SO THEY CAN GIVE US A REPORT CARD OF HOW WE

09:52:34 SCORE AS IT RELATES TO TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

09:52:38 BECAUSE IF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WAS

09:52:44 IMPORTANT, HAVE REMOVE THE GAG ORDER FROM COUNCILMAN

09:52:46 DINGFELDER TO HEAR FROM HIM AND THE ADMINISTRATION.

09:52:51 IF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY VERY IMPORTANT, WHY

09:52:55 DID THE PRESS GET THE INFORMATION OF CASTOR'S STATEMENT

09:52:57 BEFORE COUNCILMAN GUDES OR HIS ATTORNEY.

09:52:59 IF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IS IMPORTANT TO THE

09:53:01 ADMINISTRATION, WHY HAVEN'T ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT

09:53:04 THE CLOSED INVESTIGATION REGARDING COUNCILMAN GUDES AS

09:53:06 WELL AS THE DOCUMENTS IN THE INVESTIGATION BEEN

09:53:07 RELEASED.

09:53:10 IF TRANSPARENCY WAS IMPORTANT, WHY DID THEY ONLY

09:53:15 RELEASE 60 PAGES AS OPPOSED TO THE 349 WHICH HAS A LOT

09:53:17 OF INFORMATION THERE.

09:53:21 IF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WAS IMPORTANT, HOW

09:53:24 CAN YOU SAY A NEW INVESTIGATION WAS OPEN AFTER THE NEW

09:53:26 INVESTIGATION CAME UP, BUT THE ADMINISTRATION STILL

09:53:29 HAVE NOT RELEASED ALL THE INFORMATION AS IT RELATES TO

09:53:30 THE INVESTIGATION.

09:53:34 IN DO THE DOCUMENTS FROM OVER 300 PAGES RELEASED

09:53:37 CLEARLY HOW TO NOT TO SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH

09:53:40 COUNCILMAN GUDES BUT IT WAS SHARED WITH OTHER

09:53:44 COUNCILMEMBERS IF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IS

09:53:45 IMPORTANT TO THE ADMINISTRATION.

09:53:48 IF THAT WAS IMPORTANT, THE CLAIMANT'S HEALTH AND WELL

09:53:50 BEING WOULD HAVE BEEN PRESERVED WELL.

09:53:53 IN HER REQUEST TO HAVE A NEW POSITION, SHE SAT IN THAT

09:53:55 SEAT -- IF IT WAS HOSTILE.

09:53:57 IF IT WAS SO HOSTILE.

09:53:59 SHE SAT THERE OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AND WASN'T MOVED

09:54:03 UNTIL IT WAS REQUESTED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR HER

09:54:04 HEALTH AND WELL BEING.

09:54:06 SHE WAS OVERWHELMED IN THE POSITION AND HE WANTED HER

09:54:09 TO GET ANOTHER POSITION.

09:54:12 IF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WAS SO IMPORTANT,

09:54:15 WHY ALL THESE QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.

09:54:18 I REVIEWED THE 349 PAGES.

09:54:21 I REVIEWED THE 60 PAGES AND I BELIEVE IT IS

09:54:22 INTENTIONAL.

09:54:26 TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IS NOT THE PRIMARY

09:54:27 CONCERN OF THE ADMINISTRATION.

09:54:29 NOW THIS CAN HAPPEN.

09:54:31 BUT I WOULD LIKE THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO COME IN

09:54:35 AND GIVE A REPORT CARD, HOW ARE WE SCORING WHEN IT

09:54:37 RELATES TO TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

09:54:40 THESE COUNCILMEN HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY.

09:54:42 WE VOTED THEM IN AND THEY CAN'T DO THEIR JOB BECAUSE

09:54:44 THEY HAVE TO FIGHT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.

09:54:46 THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE IN THIS CITY.

09:54:46 THANK YOU.

09:54:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:54:53 [APPLAUSE]

09:54:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER.

09:54:59 >> HELLO, GOOD MORNING.

09:55:05 I AM SALLYESE LEE OF THE VOLUNTEER MISSIONARY SOCIETY

09:55:06 PENNY FUND.

09:55:09 AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY ALL PRAISES BE TO GOD.

09:55:14 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FOR YOUR HELP IN GETTING

09:55:16 MY AIR CONDITIONER FIXED.

09:55:18 90 DAYS WITHOUT AIR.

09:55:22 AND SO I STILL HAD TO CALL YOUR OFFICE BACK AND YOUR

09:55:24 SECRETARY, SHE HELPED ME OUT.

09:55:29 I HAD TO CALL 45 PEOPLE TO CONTACT TO GET THIS JOB

09:55:30 DONE.

09:55:32 AFTER THREE MONTHS.

09:55:36 AND FINALLY, YOU KNOW, I CALL AROUND AND TALK TO

09:55:39 PEOPLE -- I MET SOME PRETTY NICE PEOPLE ON THE PHONE.

09:55:43 AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE

09:55:49 INSPECTORS IN TAMPA THAT INSPECT APARTMENT HOUSES.

09:55:53 AND I WOULD -- I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE MUST

09:55:55 NOT FORGET HOMELESSNESS.

09:56:00 WE MUST DECIDE TO TAKE A STAND ON -- THIS IS MY

09:56:01 BIRTHDAY MONTH.

09:56:06 AND I WILL BE GLAD IF YOU ALL WILL DECIDE AND GOD WILL

09:56:07 LET ME SLEEP.

09:56:12 SLEEP IS A LUXURY TO ME BECAUSE WHEN GOD WANTS ME

09:56:14 SOMEWHERE, WAKES ME UP 3:00.

09:56:19 A LITTLE PINCH AND YOU ARE OUT AND SEE THE PUBLIC.

09:56:25 ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AND WITH SIN AND MALICE AND WE

09:56:31 SHOULD MOVE ON FORWARD, AND WE SHOULD DECIDE ON WHEN

09:56:33 YOU ARE GOING TO SIGN THE RENT FREEZE.

09:56:35 THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

09:56:38 AND KEEP THE GOOD WORK UP.

09:56:41 AND DON'T FORGET OF HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING.

09:56:42 PLEASE.

09:56:43 THAT IS WHY YOU ARE THERE.

09:56:47 YOU GOT TO STAND UP FOR US WOMEN WHO ARE LIVING IN THE

09:56:52 STREETS, SLEEPING UNDER A TREE, UNDER THE BORDER,

09:56:53 EVERYWHERE.

09:56:55 WE NEED HOUSING SO OUR KIDS CAN THINK AND FEEL THEY ARE

09:56:55 HUMAN.

09:56:58 THAT IS WHAT I AM IN IT FOR THE KIDS THAT CAN'T HELP

09:57:00 THEMSELVES.

09:57:03 Y'ALL MAKE A DECISION OF RENTING AND HOUSE -- BECAUSE

09:57:04 IT AFFECTS ME TOO.

09:57:05 I AM A SENIOR.

09:57:07 AND I CAN'T AFFORD MY RENT TO GO UP.

09:57:10 SO I PRAY FOR YOU ALL.

09:57:12 AND PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING AND COME UP WITH THE

09:57:14 TRANSPARENCY.

09:57:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:57:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:57:24 ALL RIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

09:57:25 >> JAE PASSMORE.

09:57:29 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, CITY COUNCIL.

09:57:31 THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO SAY AND I HAVE

09:57:33 TO MAKE IT CONDENSED.

09:57:36 I HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR THE RACIST MAYOR TO RESIGN

09:57:37 SINCE 2020.

09:57:40 BUT THAT IS NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.

09:57:43 I REALLY THINK -- FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS,

09:57:48 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, BUT I THINK THE PROCESS TO PICK AN

09:57:51 APPLICANT AS WE TALK OF TRANSPARENCY WAS NOT

09:57:53 TRANSPARENT.

09:57:55 THE MORNING OF CITY COUNCIL WAS DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT

09:57:57 IF THEY WOULD ASK APPLICANTS QUESTIONS.

09:58:01 THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING PLANNED OUT IN ADVANCE.

09:58:04 NUMEROUS PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY SPOKE AND SAID WE

09:58:07 WANTED A PROGRESSIVE BLACK WOMAN.

09:58:10 WHERE WAS -- WHEN WE TALK OF THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE

09:58:12 WHO ARE COMING TO SPEAK.

09:58:14 WHERE WAS THE CONSIDERATION FOR ANY OF THAT.

09:58:18 AND THAT IS NOT TO SAY ANYTHING OF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,

09:58:21 BUT WHEN YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE WHEN

09:58:24 CONSIDERING YOUR DECISIONS, YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN THE

09:58:25 MAYOR WHEN YOU ARE DOING THAT.

09:58:30 WHEN WE TALK OF TRANSPARENCY, I FEEL LIKE IF YOU ARE

09:58:32 NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC, THEN THE PUBLIC

09:58:36 NEEDS TO HOLD YOU ON ACCOUNTABLE.

09:58:40 WHEN WE TALK OF INVESTIGATIONS, BILL CARLSON'S FORMER

09:58:43 AIDE SAID HE WAS A VICTIM OF EMOTIONAL AND VERBAL

09:58:44 ABUSE.

09:58:47 WHERE IS THE INVESTIGATION TO BE OPENED UP ON THAT.

09:58:49 I THINK IT IS TIME TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE AS

09:58:52 MUCH AS OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS CAN GO ON THE NEWS AND

09:58:54 CALL FOR OTHERS TO RESIGN.

09:58:58 I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND ASK

09:59:01 YOURSELVES, ARE YOU WHAT IS BEST FOR THE PUBLIC IF YOU

09:59:04 CAN NOT LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC AND LISTEN TO THE NEEDS OF

09:59:04 THE PEOPLE.

09:59:06 I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.

09:59:09 I KNOW A LOT OF YOU GOT TRIGGERED WHEN I SAID Y'ALL

09:59:10 WERE WHITE MEN.

09:59:14 BUT I KNOW I AM NOT HERE TO GIVE YOU A CLASS ON

09:59:17 ETHNICITY, RACE AND NATIONALITY, BUT I WANT TO STATE

09:59:20 FOR THE RECORD, YOU CAN BE WHITE AND HISPANIC IN CASE

09:59:21 YOU WERE CONFUSED.

09:59:24 BUT MY OVERALL THING IS, NOT ONLY DID YOU COMPLETELY

09:59:28 DISREGARD THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, YOU DIDN'T EVEN

09:59:33 REALLY ACTUALLY SEEM TO CARE ABOUT THE APPLICANTS WHO

09:59:34 CAME UP AND SPOKE.

09:59:38 I DID SEE COUNCILMEMBER VIERA -- I FORGET THE

09:59:42 GENTLEMAN'S NAME, BUT HE DID SAY, HEY, MY AIDE WILL GET

09:59:43 IN CONTACT WITH YOU AND SO FORTH.

09:59:47 BUT OVERALL, SPEAKING, IT LOOKS TO THE PUBLIC THAT YOU

09:59:51 ALREADY HAD YOUR MINDS MADE WHO Y'ALL WANTED AND IT

09:59:54 LOOKED LIKE IT WAS THE WOMAN WHO WAS ENDORSED BY OUR

09:59:55 MAYOR.

09:59:58 SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND WE TALK OF CITY

10:00:02 COUNCIL BEING AT ODDS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, THESE

10:00:07 ACTIONS FURTHER ENVELOPE OUR CITY GOVERNMENT TURMOIL.

10:00:11 I HAVE BEEN TO CITIES THAT HAVE 50-PERSON CITY COUNCILS

10:00:12 AND 15-PERSON CITY COUNCILS.

10:00:15 THIS IS A SMALL COUNCIL IN COMPARISON, BUT IT LOOKS

10:00:18 LIKE Y'ALL JUST SHOW UP AND DO WHAT YOU WANT AND NOT

10:00:21 LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE OR EVEN CARE ABOUT THE WILL OF THE

10:00:22 PEOPLE.

10:00:26 AND I HOPE THAT MY WORDS INSPIRE EACH ONE OF YOU IF YOU

10:00:33 LIKE ME OR NOT TO REALLY REFLECT AND CHANGE.

10:00:34 THANK YOU.

10:00:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:00:38 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

10:00:41 >> GOOD MORNING, MENTESNOT.

10:00:44 IT IS A STUPID PROCESS AND STUPID CITY COUNCIL.

10:00:47 THE FACT OF THE MATTER TO CHOOSE SOMEONE -- NO

10:00:49 DISRESPECT TO THE PERSON CHOSEN.

10:00:52 TO CHOOSE SOMEONE, ALL YOU NEEDED TO DO SEE THE PERSON

10:00:54 WITH THE SECOND AMOUNT OF VOTES WHEN THEY RAN, WHEN THE

10:00:57 PEOPLE CHOSE SOMEONE, SEE IF THEY WANTED THE JOB.

10:00:59 THAT PERSON WAS RIGHT HERE, AND SHE DIDN'T GET THE JOB.

10:01:02 SO IT IS A STUPID PROCESS.

10:01:06 ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY A STUPID PROCESS.

10:01:07 THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

10:01:11 A STUPID MAYOR THAT GOT RIGHT OUT THERE SOMEWHERE AND

10:01:13 TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.

10:01:15 WHAT TRANSPARENCY?

10:01:17 AFTER THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO?

10:01:20 THEN THEY CLAIM TRANSPARENCY AFTER HER NEPHEW GOT SOME

10:01:23 JOB OVER SOME CITY CONTRACT.

10:01:25 WHERE WAS THE TRANSPARENCY IN THAT.

10:01:29 WHERE IS THE TRANSPARENCY A PROJECT -- A $100 MILLION

10:01:33 PROJECT THAT WAS NO PROCESS.

10:01:37 NO AFRICAN CONTRACTORS, NO MINORITY CONTRACTORS, $100

10:01:40 MILLION TO START.

10:01:42 AND CALLING IT EAST TAMPA AND IT IS NOT EVEN EAST

10:01:43 TAMPA.

10:01:46 WHERE IS THE TRANSPARENCY IN THAT?

10:01:48 TRANSPARENCY IS A LITTLE TRICK.

10:01:50 THEY PUT DIRT OUT ON YOU AND THEY COME OUT.

10:01:52 THEY HIDE THEIR HAND.

10:01:54 THEY PUT DIRT ON THE OTHER PERSON LIKE THEY DID

10:01:55 DINGFELDER.

10:01:59 AND COME OUT AND CLAIM TRANSPARENCY.

10:02:04 DINGFELDER WAS SOLID FOR RESIGNING BECAUSE HE IS A GOOD

10:02:04 PERSON.

10:02:06 HE WAS SOLID FOR RESIGNING.

10:02:08 IF WE WANT ORLANDO GUDES TO HANG IN THERE AND OTHER

10:02:11 PEOPLE TO HANG IN THERE.

10:02:14 THIS -- THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS NO RESPECT FROM THAT

10:02:17 MAYOR'S OFFICE AND HAS BEEN THAT WAY FROM THE LAST

10:02:18 MAYOR'S OFFICE.

10:02:22 IF THEY ARE WRESTLING THE MAYOR FOR POWER, THIS IS WHAT

10:02:23 IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

10:02:26 THEY HAVE A SITUATION GOING RIGHT NOW, JESUIT HIGH

10:02:26 SCHOOL.

10:02:32 THEY TALK OF TRANSPARENCY WHERE A AFRICAN KID LANDS IN

10:02:34 THE HOSPITAL AND THE TRANSPARENCY IS, THEY ARE DOING

10:02:38 THE SAME THING THEY DID WITH ORLANDO GUDES.

10:02:41 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS RELEASED PART OF THE VIDEO,

10:02:44 NOT THE WHOLE VIDEO AND SAID, OH, THE AFRICAN KID

10:02:47 STARTED THE -- THE CONFUSION.

10:02:51 NO RELEASE THE WHOLE VIDEO SO WE CAN SEE WHAT HAPPENED.

10:02:54 IT IS NO TRANSPARENCY GOING ON.

10:02:57 AND THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR

10:02:59 OVER THREE DECADES COMING RIGHT BEFORE THE CITY

10:03:00 COUNCIL.

10:03:05 AND WHEN YOU TRY TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.

10:03:06 IT IS SO BAD.

10:03:08 YOU TRY TO TALK OF TRANSPARENCY.

10:03:09 THAT MAN RIGHT THERE.

10:03:11 THEY DON'T LIKE TO CALL YOU NAMES.

10:03:15 THAT MAN WATCHED ME GET JAILTIME FOR SITTING RIGHT

10:03:17 THERE AND STANDING UP AND SPEAK AT THIS PODIUM AND THEY

10:03:19 DIDN'T LIKE WHAT I WAS SAYING.

10:03:21 WHERE IS TRANSPARENCY IN THAT.

10:03:25 I DON'T LIKE TO PERSONALIZE ANYTHING.

10:03:27 MILLIONS -- TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN CODE

10:03:34 ENFORCEMENT IN THIS CITY AGAINST ME, TONY DANIEL, FOR

10:03:35 WHAT?

10:03:36 WHAT DO I DO?

10:03:40 WHERE IS THE TRANSPARENCY IN THAT?

10:03:41 NO, THERE IS NO TRANSPARENCY.

10:03:45 WHAT THIS CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO DO -- I KNOW IT IS A

10:03:48 TOUGH DAY TO BE FIRST DAY ON THE JOB AND GET IT THIS

10:03:50 WAY.

10:03:53 WHAT THIS CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO DO IS STAND UP AND HAVE

10:03:56 A BALANCE IN GOVERNMENT.

10:03:58 EVERYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT COMMUNISM AND PUTIN, BUT

10:04:01 WE GOT OUR PUTIN RIGHT HERE.

10:04:03 OUR PUTIN IS CALLED CASTOR.

10:04:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:04:07 >> AND SHE IS RIGHT HERE.

10:04:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:04:19 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

10:04:23 >> ONCE AGAIN, MAN, JOE ROBINSON, WEST TAMPA.

10:04:26 Y'ALL GOT ME DOWN HERE MISSING THE MASTER'S, MAN.

10:04:29 I WANT TO GET TO TIGER WOODS.

10:04:31 THE REASONS I CAME DOWN IS I THOUGHT THE COMMUNITY

10:04:34 BENEFIT AGREEMENT WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA TODAY, BUT I

10:04:36 HEAR THAT THE AGENDA WAS FULL.

10:04:39 AND IT HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE 21ST.

10:04:42 BUT, YOU KNOW, I WILL BE BACK ON THE 21ST.

10:04:46 WITH YOU I WAS DOWN HERE TO TALK OF THE CBA; HOWEVER,

10:04:49 I AM DOWN HERE LOOKING AT -- CONGRATULATIONS, FIRST OF

10:04:52 ALL, MISS LYNN HURTAK.

10:04:56 YOU KNOW I HAVE A SLIGHT CONVERSATION WITH YOU.

10:05:00 BUT GETTING BAPTIZED BY FIRE, NOT WATER THIS MORNING.

10:05:01 WELCOME TO THE CLUB.

10:05:02 OKAY.

10:05:03 WELCOME TO THE CLUB.

10:05:06 A BIG CLUB.

10:05:09 IT IS CALLED TRANSPARENCY VERSUS THE INVISIBLE MAN,

10:05:10 SEE.

10:05:14 SO, YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS ARE TRANSPARENT.

10:05:18 SOME THINGS ARE INVISIBLE IN THIS AREA.

10:05:21 AND I SAY THIS.

10:05:22 SWITCHING SUBJECT.

10:05:26 I MET MISS TRAVIS WHO TOOK OVER CAROLE POST'S JOB.

10:05:28 SHE IS GOING TO DO GOOD.

10:05:32 I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT I HAVE KNOWN HER SINCE 2008 THINK

10:05:33 THAT MET HER BACK THEN.

10:05:39 ROB ROSNER HAS CHAIRED THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT

10:05:43 SINCE I AM THE WEST TAMPA CRA COMMITTEE PERSON WHO IS

10:05:47 FOLLOWING THE ROME YARD COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT FOR

10:05:48 WEST.

10:05:50 I HAVE THE DOCUMENT.

10:05:51 I HAVE READ IT.

10:05:55 WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO RUN IT BY OUR COMMITTEE BEFORE

10:05:58 YOU BRING IT BACK ON THE 21ST.

10:05:59 WE WILL HAVE AN EMERGENCY MEETING OR SOMETHING.

10:06:00 IT HAS COME OUT.

10:06:01 IT'S FINAL.

10:06:04 AND ALSO ON HANNA, THEY ARE HAVING TODAY AT 3:00

10:06:07 ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO TRY TO GET SOME WORK TO GET OVER

10:06:08 THERE.

10:06:12 3:00 AT REAGAN PARK TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON.

10:06:16 BECAUSE I HEAR A LOT GOING ON, BUT A LOT OF IT IS GOING

10:06:18 TO KEEP MOVING ON.

10:06:19 THINGS WILL KEEP MOVING.

10:06:24 I DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS.

10:06:28 AND THERE ARE A LOT OF DISTRACTIONS GOING ON BOTH SIDES

10:06:32 OF THE GRASS, THE FENCE, UP, DOWN, AROUND AND IN THE

10:06:32 TOWN.

10:06:35 THIS LADY MENTIONED THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.

10:06:41 THAT IS AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION; HOWEVER, NOTHING

10:06:43 TO REACH THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT LEVEL YET.

10:06:45 BUT IT IS GETTING REAL CLOSE.

10:06:48 I'M HERE TO SAY THAT -- Y'ALL CAUSED ME TO MISS TIGER

10:06:48 WOODS.

10:06:49 OKAY.

10:06:51 COMING BACK.

10:06:52 FROM MY HURT LEG.

10:06:55 BUT I AM GOING TO SAY WITH THE LAST 30 SECONDS, MR.

10:06:58 CARLSON, IF YOU NEED A BODYGUARD, LET ME KNOW.

10:07:03 YOU MIGHT NEED ONE ONE DAY AT THE RATE WE ARE GOING

10:07:04 AROUND HERE.

10:07:06 I AM GOING TO TELL YOU GUYS, KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE

10:07:07 DOING.

10:07:08 KEEP VETTING IT OUT.

10:07:11 Y'ALL KEEP COMMUNICATING BUT LET'S KEEP IT CIVILIZED.

10:07:13 LET'S KEEP IT LEGAL.

10:07:16 AND LET'S DO THE JOB YOU WERE ELECTED AND APPOINTED TO

10:07:18 DO FOR THE PUBLIC.

10:07:19 SO Y'ALL DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

10:07:21 JUST REMEMBER, YOU WORK FOR THE PUBLIC.

10:07:24 THAT'S -- I AM GOING TO GO WATCH TIGER WOODS NOW.

10:07:25 Y'ALL HAVE A NICE DAY.

10:07:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:07:29 ALL RIGHT.

10:07:32 WE NOW WILL GO -- NO ONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK

10:07:34 FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WILL GO TO THE REGISTERED

10:07:36 SPEAKERS ONLINE.

10:07:40 NUMBER ONE IS MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH.

10:07:42 >>CLERK: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.

10:07:45 MICHAEL, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF

10:07:48 AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:07:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. RANDOLPH.

10:07:53 >> HELLO, YES, MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.

10:07:56 I AM WITH THE WEST TAMPA CAC.

10:08:01 TO THE LATEST PERSON WHO IS ON BOARD, CONGRATULATIONS,

10:08:04 BUT YOU ARE COMING AT A TIME WHEN THE COUNTRY IS GOING

10:08:05 BACKWARDS.

10:08:08 EVERYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG HAS GONE WRONG

10:08:11 IN THIS COUNTRY.

10:08:15 AND A FEMALE TO COME AND STRAIGHTEN IT OUT.

10:08:21 SO THERE IS A CRISIS IN WEST TAMPA AND RESIDENCE OF

10:08:23 BEING DISPLACED BY GENTRIFICATION.

10:08:27 SUPPORTED BY A RECENT PLAN BY THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

10:08:31 COMMISSION THAT SAYS WEST TAMPA AND EAST TAMPA

10:08:36 SPECIFICALLY THE BLACK COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S WHY WE

10:08:38 HAVE A CRISIS IN WEST TAMPA.

10:08:44 I HOPE THE WEST TAMPA CAC, WE TALK OF WHAT A CAC IS.

10:08:49 THEY SAYS IT A PRIVATE NONPROFIT CORPORATION BY A BOARD

10:08:53 OF DIRECTORS CONSISTING OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE

10:08:56 COMMUNITY, AND CIVIC LEADERS WHICH HAVE A PRINCIPLE

10:09:01 PURPOSE OF PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY

10:09:02 DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES.

10:09:05 THEY THINK THAT IT IS WHAT IS CALLED A COMMUNITY

10:09:12 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT TO WHICH CDCS CAN GO TO.

10:09:16 AND LET'S TALK OF THE WEST TAMPA CDC.

10:09:18 WE ARE A COMMUNITY-BASED NODE.

10:09:28 IT IS RAN BY DR. MARTHA FISHER IS THE CHAIRPERSON AND

10:09:31 THE AND JOE ROBINSON IS THE VICE-CHAIRPERSON.

10:09:35 WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE COMMUNITY COMPREHENSIVE INITIATIVE

10:09:40 FOR ECONOMIC, FISCAL AND SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALL

10:09:40 TOGETHER.

10:09:42 SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS ALL ABOUT PEOPLE.

10:09:47 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND PHYSICAL

10:09:51 ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, SPECIFICALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

10:09:54 THE MOST RECENT PROJECT IS THE ROME PROJECT.

10:09:58 THE PROJECT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE NARRATIVE WHEN IT

10:10:00 COMES TO RESIDENTS IN WEST.

10:10:07 THE WEST TAMPA ROLE IS TO MOVE FROM THE PERSONNEL AT

10:10:14 THE JOB AND E-COMMERCE OF JOBS PROGRAMS.

10:10:17 WE PRAY THAT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WILL CREATE 120 NEW

10:10:20 PART-TIME AND FULL-TIME RESIDENTS -- I MEAN FULL-TIME

10:10:24 BUSINESSES THAT WILL BE CONTROLLED BY THE RESIDENTS.

10:10:28 OUT OF THAT, 150 NEW JOBS CREATED BECAUSE OF THESE

10:10:30 BUSINESSES.

10:10:33 $9 MILLION TO $10 MILLION ECONOMIC IMPACT.

10:10:35 SO WHAT -- WHAT IS THE GOAL?

10:10:42 REDUCE -- INCREASE SAFETY, INCREASE JOB CREATION AND

10:10:46 INCREASE GENERATIONAL WEALTH IN THE COMMUNITY.

10:10:52 THE POPULATION AND FOCUS ON YOUTH, THOSE WITH CRIMINAL

10:10:56 RECORDS AND FOR FIXED INCOME FOR SENIOR CITIZENS.

10:10:58 THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY.

10:11:00 THIS IS A HARD TIME IN OUR COUNTRY.

10:11:04 WE HAVE TO DO BETTER AND AGAIN TO THE NEWEST MEMBER OF

10:11:08 THE CITY COUNCIL, WE KNOW FEMALES ALWAYS STRAIGHTEN IT

10:11:08 OUT.

10:11:09 STRAIGHTEN IT OUT.

10:11:10 THANK YOU.

10:11:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:11:16 NEXT ON THE LIST IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.

10:11:24 SHE WAS HERE AND CARROLL BENNETT AND LOUIE GUADIARE.

10:11:26 >> IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND

10:11:34 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:11:38 >> MR. GALDIERI, IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE, PLEASE GO

10:11:38 AHEAD.

10:11:40 >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS UNMUTED.

10:11:42 CAN YOU HEAR ME.

10:11:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, THANK YOU.

10:11:46 >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS CITY

10:11:46 COUNCIL.

10:11:48 I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE TOWERS OF CHANNELSIDE

10:11:51 HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

10:11:54 FIRST OF ALL, WANTS TO THANK YOU FOR BEING GREAT

10:11:58 PARTNER AND WE HAVE BEEN A VERY ACTIVE PARTNER WITH

10:12:00 CITY STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.

10:12:04 WE APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION TODAY ON ITEM 3 RECOGNIZE

10:12:06 AS THAT PARTNERSHIP AND THE FACT THAT THE CHANNEL

10:12:10 DISTRICT HAS EVOLVED TO BECOME MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL.

10:12:13 WE ALSO APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN VIERA MEETING WITH OUR

10:12:17 RESIDENTS AND HOMEOWNERS TO HEAR FIRSTHAND THE

10:12:20 CHALLENGES WE EXPERIENCE IN THE COMMUNITY, THE PROPOSED

10:12:24 AMENDMENT I AM NOT GOING TO BELABOR THE DISCUSSION

10:12:26 BECAUSE I HEAR ALL OF THE CHALLENGES AND DISCUSS THIS

10:12:27 FOR TWO YEARS.

10:12:32 THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT PROHIBITS EXCESSIVE NOISE AS

10:12:35 WELL AS VIBRATION WITHIN A FULLY ENCLOSED STRUCTURE.

10:12:39 TO PROHIBIT THE VAST EXPERIENCE OF THE TOWERS

10:12:41 RESIDENTS, THE VIBRATION FROM THE CURRENT

10:12:42 ESTABLISHMENT.

10:12:48 THESE PROVISIONS OF SECTIONS 12-154 DO NOT CURRENTLY

10:12:51 APPLY TO THE CHANNEL DISTRICT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT

10:12:55 GOVERNED BY SECTION 114-154.

10:12:57 IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DISCUSS

10:12:59 THAT TODAY.

10:13:03 AND BRINGING THE CHANNEL DISTRICT WILL REPRESENT GREAT

10:13:04 PROGRESS.

10:13:06 WE VOTE THAT YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF THAT ORDINANCE AND I

10:13:08 APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.

10:13:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:13:13 NEXT WE HAVE JEAN STROHMEYER.

10:13:19 >>CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER IS JEAN STROHMEYER, IF YOU ARE

10:13:21 ON THE LINE.

10:13:24 UNMUTE AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:13:25 >> DO YOU ALL HEAR ME?

10:13:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.

10:13:29 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL AND GOOD MORNING MISS

10:13:32 HURTAK FOR YOUR -- YOUR NEW POSITION.

10:13:36 JUST FOR SOMEBODY ELSE THAT SPOKE THAT SAID SHE WAS

10:13:38 ENDORSED BY THE MAYOR, THAT IS INCORRECT.

10:13:39 THAT IS THE WRONG ONE.

10:13:43 SHE IS NOT ENDORSED BY THE MAYOR, BUT WE DID FEEL SHE

10:13:45 HAD A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD BACKGROUNDS.

10:13:48 SO I FEEL IT WAS THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR THE JOB BECAUSE

10:13:51 YOUR JOB AS THE CITY COUNT IS TO PROTECT YOUR

10:13:53 NEIGHBORHOODS AND LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHO VOTED

10:13:54 YOU IN.

10:13:57 I DON'T THINK REPRESENTATIVES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN VOTED

10:14:00 IN, PEOPLE IN THE CITY THAT HAVE NOT BEEN VOTED IN

10:14:02 SHOULD BE RUNNING OUR CITY INCLUDING THE BLOOMBERG

10:14:05 FOUNDATION AND WHATNOT.

10:14:08 THAT WAS A BIG MISTAKE AND THE PEOPLE HOPEFULLY THAT WE

10:14:10 CAN REVERSE THAT SOMEHOW.

10:14:11 LOOK INTO THAT.

10:14:15 ANYWAY, I -- FOR THE RECORD, AGAIN, AND I AM GOING TO

10:14:18 LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT I DO PRAY FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU

10:14:22 EVERY SINGLE DAY 8 P.M. P.M. IF ANYONE WANTS TO JOIN IN

10:14:26 ON PRAYER, 8:00, SET YOUR ALARM TO PRAY FOR OUR CITY,

10:14:29 COUNTY, OUR STATE AS WELL AS OUR COUNTRY.

10:14:33 BECAUSE BOTH -- ALL ARE GOING DOWN IN HELL IN A HANDBAG

10:14:36 BASKET THE WAY I SEE IT UNLESS WE GET TO PRAYING.

10:14:40 TO THE AGENDA, NUMBER 1, IS THE SEXUAL ASSAULT

10:14:41 AWARENESS.

10:14:42 I WAS LOOKING INTO THAT.

10:14:45 THAT IS ALL WELL AND GOOD BUT CAME RIGHT AFTER THAT

10:14:50 MEETING TO LYNCH MR. -- MR. GUDES.

10:14:53 AND IT FELT LIKE -- IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE RECORD, IT

10:14:55 CAME WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF THAT, QUOTE, MEETING BY THE

10:14:56 CITY LEADERS.

10:14:57 JUST SO YOU KNOW.

10:15:01 THAT WAS ALSO -- YOU SEE WHO STARTED THAT.

10:15:03 SO I THINK -- LET'S SEE.

10:15:04 ON THE AGENDA.

10:15:07 YOU HAVE NUMBER 19 IS TALKING ABOUT CHANGE THE ORDER OF

10:15:08 CONTRACTS.

10:15:10 IF YOU CAN CHANGE THE ORDER OF CONTRACTS, YOU COULD

10:15:15 HAVE DONE THAT WITH BLOOMBERG AND THE HANNA PROJECT.

10:15:18 Y'ALL LOOK INTO THAT IF YOU CAN.

10:15:22 NUMBER 25, THERE ARE $2 MILLION BEING PROPOSED FOR

10:15:26 THINGS AND PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU -- YOU HANDLE OUR MONEY

10:15:27 AS IF IT WAS YOUR OWN.

10:15:30 NOT IF IT WAS AN UNLIMITED BANK ACCOUNT.

10:15:33 THAT IS WHAT WE ALL -- WE ALL LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS AND

10:15:36 I SUGGEST THAT YOU GUYS DO THE SAME IF YOU -- FULL LOOK

10:15:38 INTO WHAT IS COMING ON THE AGENDA.

10:15:42 AND LOOK AT IT SMARTLY.

10:15:43 IT IS THE SAME THING WITH GROWTH.

10:15:45 WE WANT OUR CITY TO GROW.

10:15:47 WE DON'T MIND DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH.

10:15:49 BUT WE WANT SMART GROWTH.

10:15:51 AND THAT GOES TO THE DEVELOPERS IN THE AUDIENCE THERE

10:15:52 TODAY.

10:15:55 AND, YOU KNOW, TALKING OF TRANSPARENCY.

10:15:57 I LISTENED TO A LOT OF THE STATEMENTS.

10:16:00 THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE

10:16:01 TRANSPARENT AS WELL.

10:16:04 WE NEED TO MAKE THAT FULL CIRCLE, THAT EVERYBODY KIND

10:16:07 OF KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON.

10:16:10 AND, AGAIN, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THERE ARE A LOT OF

10:16:12 THINGS GOING ON THERE THAT PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME AND

10:16:19 THAT I SEE THAT IS JUST -- DON'T LOOK GOOD.

10:16:22 WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT AND WE REALLY NEED TO -- TO

10:16:26 CHANGE THE CODE SO THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS A LITTLE

10:16:30 MORE POWER WHEN IT COMES TO STRUGGLES AGAINST THE

10:16:31 MAYOR.

10:16:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:16:33 >> YES.

10:16:33 OKAY.

10:16:35 HAVE A GOOD DAY.

10:16:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU TOO.

10:16:39 ALL RIGHT, THE TWO OTHER REGISTERED SPEAKERS I HAVE ARE

10:16:43 TYLER HUDSON AND JAMIE MAIER, BUT THEY ARE AVAILABLE IF

10:16:45 THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR FOUR AND FIVE.

10:16:46 I WILL WAIT THERE.

10:16:49 BUT THE GENTLEMAN IN THE SECOND ROW, I KNOW YOU WANTED

10:16:49 TO SPEAK.

10:16:51 WE APOLOGIZE.

10:16:52 WE.

10:16:54 GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:16:55 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

10:16:55 STATE YOUR NAME.

10:16:57 >> YES, MY NAME IS LARRY RINDUMECHT.

10:16:57 [INAUDIBLE]

10:17:02 -- I WANT TO CONGRATULATE AND WELCOME OUR NEW CONGRESS

10:17:05 -- COUNCILWOMAN, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH

10:17:09 YOU, SPECIFICALLY I AM ADDRESSING THE NOISE ORDINANCE

10:17:09 TODAY.

10:17:15 I LIVE IN TOWER ONE.

10:17:22 I LIVE IN THE O5 TIER, WHICH IS -- SPECIFICALLY UNIT

10:17:25 2205.

10:17:30 THE 04 AND 05 TIERS ARE DIRECTLY ABOVE THE PARK AND REC

10:17:34 GAMING BAR THAT IS CREATING THE NOISE THAT WE ARE

10:17:36 CURRENTLY TOLERATING.

10:17:41 I WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO MOVE IN TO TOWER ONE IN

10:17:46 SEPTEMBER OF 2007.

10:17:51 WHEN IT WAS SOLELY A HIGH-RISE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY

10:17:53 WITH NO RETAIL.

10:17:59 I WAS THERE WHEN ASIA WAS ESTABLISHED AS A NIGHT CLUB.

10:18:02 AND I WAS THERE WHEN THE GAMING BAR CAME INTO

10:18:07 EXISTENCE, PARK AND REC, IN DECEMBER OF 2019.

10:18:10 YOU MAY RECALL ON MARCH 17, I SPOKE TO THE COUNCIL.

10:18:12 WHAT DID I TALK ABOUT?

10:18:15 I TALKED ABOUT THE SPECIFIC TYPE OF NOISE THAT WAS

10:18:22 PENETRATING OUR BEDROOMS BETWEEN 10 P.M. AND 2 A.M.

10:18:26 YOU GRACIOUSLY LISTENED AND AGREED THAT A NOISE

10:18:31 ORDINANCE SEPARATING THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM YBOR

10:18:35 SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE COUNCIL.

10:18:38 TODAY I'M HERE TO THANK YOU FOR UNDERTAKING THIS NEW

10:18:42 NOISE ORDINANCE WHICH I STRONGLY SUPPORT, AS DO ALL OF

10:18:46 THE TOWER MEMBERS, RESIDENTS, IF YOU WILL, THAT I HAVE

10:18:47 SPOKEN WITH.

10:18:52 I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE CITY ADMINISTRATORS,

10:18:54 SPECIFICALLY NICOLE AND SUSAN, FOR THEIR EFFORTS TO

10:18:58 LISTEN TO THOSE OF US IN THE TOWERS AND TO PRODUCE A

10:19:01 FIRST READING DRAFT ORDINANCE AT THE COUNCIL'S

10:19:05 DIRECTION WHICH YOU ARE CONSIDERING TODAY AND HOPEFULLY

10:19:06 WILL PASS.

10:19:10 WE IN THE TOWERS NEED YOUR CONTINUED UNDERSTANDING AND

10:19:15 SUPPORT TO STOP OR SIGNIFICANTLY CURTAIL THIS

10:19:21 UNACCEPTABLE NOISE IN OUR BEDROOMS IN A RESIDENTIAL

10:19:21 COMMUNITY.

10:19:25 I LOOK FORWARD TO PARTICIPATING IN THE FUTURE WORKSHOPS

10:19:29 WHICH I UNDERSTAND ARE SCHEDULED.

10:19:35 AND WORK TOWARDS THE GOAL OF SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING AND

10:19:38 AT CERTAIN TIMES ELIMINATING THE NOISE.

10:19:39 THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

10:19:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:19:44 ALL RIGHT.

10:19:46 THAT -- YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:19:47 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.

10:19:48 I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.

10:19:51 I NEVER RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENT BUT I WANT TO READ

10:19:53 FROM ITEM NUMBER 1 WHICH STATES TIFFANY DAVIS TO APPEAR

10:19:58 IN AND PROVIDE FIVE-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON SEXUAL

10:19:58 ASSAULT.

10:20:03 ORIGINAL MOTION BY VIERA, CITRO SEPTEMBER 2021, ABOUT

10:20:07 EIGHT MONTHS AGO, IF MY MATH IS CORRECT.

10:20:08 JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S IT.

10:20:11 THANK YOU, SIR.

10:20:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:20:15 THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

10:20:18 ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF

10:20:20 LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?

10:20:20 HEARING NONE.

10:20:25 WE WILL GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3.

10:20:26 YES, MA'AM.

10:20:28 GO AHEAD.

10:20:30 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL

10:20:31 DEPARTMENT.

10:20:34 ITEM NUMBER 3 IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE

10:20:37 THAT COUNCIL REQUESTED AT YOUR LAST MEETING THAT WOULD

10:20:42 REMOVE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM SECTION 14-153, THE

10:20:45 LIST OF DISTRICTS IN THAT SECTION WHERE NOISE IS

10:20:48 MEASURED ON A DECIBEL LEVEL STANDARD.

10:20:50 THE EFFECT OF THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE TO NOW PLACE THE

10:20:55 CHANNEL DISTRICT OR HAVE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT TO THE

10:20:58 PLAINLY AUDIBLE STANDARD FOR NOISE AND THE EFFECTIVE

10:21:01 DATE WILL BE IMMEDIATELY UPON ADOPTION.

10:21:04 IF COUNCIL WILL RECALL THE LAST NOISE ORDINANCE

10:21:06 AMENDMENT THAT YOU RECENTLY REPEALED HAD A SIX-MONTH

10:21:10 DELAY, BUT THIS WILL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY UPON

10:21:12 ADOPTION AFTER SECOND READING.

10:21:14 I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

10:21:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMAN

10:21:16 MEMBERS?

10:21:17 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:21:19 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:21:21 THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.

10:21:22 I APPRECIATE THAT.

10:21:27 THIS IS JUST FOR THE CHANNEL BUSINESS STRICT?

10:21:29 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THAT'S CORRECT.

10:21:31 >>LUIS VIERA: SAYS YBOR.

10:21:35 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YBOR, CHANNEL THE THREE

10:21:38 DISTRICTS THAT IS MEASURED ON NOISE DECIBEL.

10:21:41 YBOR HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THE ARENA.

10:21:41 >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT.

10:21:44 WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:21:47 POTENTIALLY LOST IN ALL THE CONFUSION AND SHUFFLE ON

10:21:51 THIS ISSUE WAS THE -- THE NEEDS OF -- OF OUR FRIENDS

10:21:54 AND IN CHANNELSIDE FOR IMMEDIATE RELIEF.

10:21:58 AND THING DOES IT AND WE CAN DEAL WITH ALL THE OTHER

10:22:01 VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ON THIS FROM BUSINESSES AND

10:22:03 DIFFERENT GROUPS, BUT, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID BEFORE,

10:22:07 SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN YBOR CITY AND TAMPA PALMS IS

10:22:08 CHANNELSIDE, RIGHT.

10:22:10 AND I DON'T THINK IT IS EITHER ONE.

10:22:13 SO I THINK THIS WILL YOU BEGIN TO ADDRESS THAT.

10:22:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:22:16 WE APPRECIATE YOU.

10:22:18 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: ONE ITEM OF CLARIFICATION AND

10:22:20 MENTIONED IN PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WORKSHOPS HAVE BEEN

10:22:22 SCHEDULED.

10:22:24 I AM WORKING WITH STAFF TO CREATE A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT

10:22:27 PLAN HAS COUNCIL HAS REQUESTED AND WE WILL BE BRINGING

10:22:31 THAT BACK DOWN TO YOU AT YOUR NEXT MEETING ON APRIL 21.

10:22:35 THOSE ARE TO BE SCHEDULED BUT NOT YET BEEN SCHEDULED.

10:22:36 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ANYTHING, SIR.

10:22:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE OF

10:22:41 CHANNELSIDE BEING WHO THEY ARE AND STANDING UP FOR

10:22:41 THEIR RIGHTS.

10:22:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?

10:22:44 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:22:46 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS AND

10:22:48 THANKS TO THE FOLKS FROM CHANNEL DISTRICT FOR BEARING

10:22:51 WITH US THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THEY HAVE BEEN PUSHING

10:22:53 FOR THIS.

10:22:55 THE OTHER THING WE KNOW FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT

10:22:58 WE NEED THIS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.

10:23:02 STRENGTHEN -- NOT THIS EXACT THING BUT STRENGTHEN THE

10:23:03 NOISE ORDINANCES.

10:23:06 I AM AWARE OF A PRIVATE COMMUNITY GROUP COMING UP TO

10:23:14 STUDY THE -- THE NEWER METHODS OF REGULATING NOISE THAT

10:23:17 WILL BE FRIENDLY TO BUSINESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

10:23:20 AND HOPEFULLY SHIELD US FROM LITIGATION.

10:23:24 AS THAT PROCESS GOES FORWARD, I KNOW NICOLE HAS BEEN

10:23:26 HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.

10:23:29 AS THAT PROCESS GOES FORWARD, LOOK FORWARD -- MY

10:23:34 MESSAGE FOR ANYONE SUFFERING FROM NOISE ISSUES MULTIPLE

10:23:36 WAYS TO COME UP WITH WAYS TO ADDRESS IT.

10:23:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?

10:23:40 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, READ ITEM NUMBER 3.

10:23:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CERTAINLY WILL, MR. CHAIRMAN,

10:23:47 ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE NUMBER 2022-08.

10:23:50 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATED TO THE

10:23:53 REGULATION OF NOISE, MAKING REVISIONS TO THE CITY OF

10:23:57 TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE III,

10:24:02 NOISE, AMENDING SECTION 14-153, UNREASONABLY EXCESSIVE

10:24:06 NOISE FROM PROPERTY PROHIBITED, YBOR CITY HISTORIC

10:24:10 DISTRICT, CHANNEL DISTRICT AND THE ARENA DISTRICT

10:24:13 REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN

10:24:15 CONFLICT THEREWITH.

10:24:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

10:24:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, DO YOU WANT A ROLL

10:24:20 CALL.

10:24:24 ALL IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

10:24:24 ANY OPPOSED.

10:24:27 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

10:24:32 SECOND HEARING AND ADOPTION MAY 5, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.

10:24:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:24:35 NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 4.

10:24:39 I KNOW WE HAVE TYLER HUDSON ON STANDBY VIRTUALLY.

10:24:46 THIS IS COULD CORRECT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR AS IT READS

10:24:48 BY SUBSTITUTING EXHIBIT A.

10:24:49 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL

10:24:50 DEPARTMENT.

10:24:51 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

10:24:54 YES, COUNCIL, THIS IS CORRECTION TO EXHIBIT A FROM

10:24:58 ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-21 THAT COUNCIL PASSED ON

10:25:00 FEBRUARY 17.

10:25:03 THE TEXT AMENDMENT -- THIS WAS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE

10:25:06 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THE AMENDMENT LANGUAGE WAS

10:25:09 ACTUALLY APPROPRIATELY PARAPHRASED IN THE ORDINANCE

10:25:12 ITSELF BUT INCORRECT EXHIBIT WAS ATTACHED TO THE

10:25:14 ORDINANCE AFTER ADOPTION.

10:25:18 IN WOULD SUBSTITUTE THE CORRECT LANGUAGE OF THE TEXT

10:25:19 AMENDMENT.

10:25:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

10:25:21 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:25:24 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A COMMENT REAL FAST IN MY

10:25:28 INDIVIDUAL BRIEFING I ASKED THAT STAFF -- AND THEY

10:25:33 AGREED, TO INCLUDE THE ORIGINAL SIRE FILINGS WHEN WE DO

10:25:35 THE AMENDMENTS BECAUSE HARD TO GO BACK TO FIND OUT WHAT

10:25:38 IT IS ALL ABOUT IF ALL THAT IS THERE IS THE SUMMARY AND

10:25:40 THEN THE CHANGE.

10:25:42 IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO BE ABLE TO SEE ALL OF THE

10:25:44 BACK-UP FROM THE ORIGINAL ITEMS SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT

10:25:45 AGAIN.

10:25:50 I THINK THAT AND LET YOU KNOW I ASKED.

10:25:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. TYLER HUDSON ONLINE IF WE HAVE

10:25:53 ANY QUESTIONS.

10:25:56 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

10:25:57 NO?

10:25:58 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:26:00 COUNCILMAN VIERA, READ ITEM NUMBER 4.

10:26:01 >>LUIS VIERA: SURE.

10:26:03 MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING

10:26:07 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER

10:26:11 2022-21 PASSED AND ORDAINED BY CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY

10:26:14 OF TAMPA ON FEBRUARY 17, 2022.

10:26:18 CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY SUBSTITUTING A NEW

10:26:22 EXHIBIT A FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED EXHIBIT A TO

10:26:25 ACCURATELY REFLECT THE TEXT AMENDMENT LANGUAGE SO IT IS

10:26:27 CONSISTENT WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT LANGUAGE IN

10:26:30 ORDINANCE 2022-21.

10:26:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND

10:26:34 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:26:34 IN FAVOR.

10:26:35 OPPOSED.

10:26:42 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:26:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 5 YOU JAMIE MAIER ON

10:26:50 STANDBY WITH ANY QUESTIONS.

10:26:52 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL

10:26:53 DEPARTMENT.

10:26:58 AGAIN TO CORRECT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY SUBSTITUTING A

10:27:01 NEW EXHIBIT A WHICH COUNCIL PASSED ON FEBRUARY 17.

10:27:05 THIS IS JUST A CORRECTION TO THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION,

10:27:07 AGAIN, THE INCORRECT LEGAL DESCRIPTION WAS ATTACHED TO

10:27:09 THE ORDINANCE ADOPTED.

10:27:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

10:27:13 ALL RIGHT.

10:27:15 REMEMBER WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON STANDBY.

10:27:18 COUNCILMAN CITRO DO YOU WANT TO READ ITEM NUMBER 5?

10:27:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MR. CHAIR.

10:27:24 FILE NUMBER AB2-21-28, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST

10:27:25 READING CONSIDERATION.

10:27:30 ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-38 PASS AND

10:27:34 ORDAINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON

10:27:36 FEBRUARY 17, 2022.

10:27:40 CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY SUBSTITUTING A NEW

10:27:44 EXHIBIT A FOR THE PREVIOUS APPROVED EXHIBIT A TO

10:27:50 REFLECT AN ACCURATE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE SUBJECT

10:27:52 PROPERTY CONSISTENT WITH THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE

10:27:59 SITE PLAN IN ORDINANCE OF 2022-38, APPROVING FOR

10:28:03 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:28:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

10:28:10 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:28:14 SECOND READING MAY 25, AT 9:30 A.M.

10:28:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

10:28:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 6

10:28:23 THROUGH 9.

10:28:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE 6-9.

10:28:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

10:28:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

10:28:29 ANY OPPOSED?

10:28:33 ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN GUDES, PARKS AND RECREATION

10:28:34 CULTURAL COMMITTEE.

10:28:35 YES, SIR.

10:28:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS

10:28:39 10-16.

10:28:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:28:42 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:28:43 ALL IN FAVOR.

10:28:44 OPPOSED.
10:28:47 NEXT UP, PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE.

10:28:48 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:28:51 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 17-26 PLEASE.

10:28:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND YOU.

10:28:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

10:28:54 AYE.

10:28:56 ANY OPPOSED?

10:28:57 ALL RIGHT.

10:28:59 FINANCE COMMITTEE IS ITEM NUMBER 27.

10:28:59 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:29:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 27 YOU IS APPOINTMENT

10:29:07 BY THE MAYOR OF THOMAS A. HAMMER TO THE BARRIO LATINO

10:29:10 COMMISSION FOR A THREE-YEAR.

10:29:11 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:29:13 ANY OPPOSED.

10:29:19 BUILDING PRESERVATION, ITEM 28-39.

10:29:23 >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE TO MOVER 28 TO 39.

10:29:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

10:29:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

10:29:26 ANY OPPOSED.

10:29:29 >>BILL CARLSON: TO COMMENT ON NUMBER 32, THANK YOU FOR

10:29:31 THE ADMINISTRATION AN GRANTS DEPARTMENT TO CONTINUE TO

10:29:33 WORK ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

10:29:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.

10:29:42 $2 MILLION YOU COUNCILMAN VIERA, ITEM 42-46.

10:29:45 >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED TO PULL 43 AND 44 TO VOTE

10:29:46 SEPARATELY.

10:29:49 I NEED TO VOTE TO RECUSE MYSELF BECAUSE MY FIRM HAS A

10:29:53 CLIENT THAT IS RELATED TO EACH OF THESE ISSUES AND I

10:29:54 WILL BE FILING THE APPROPRIATE FORM.

10:29:55 VOTE ON THE OTHER ONES.

10:29:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, IF YOU MOVE

10:30:01 40-42 AND 45 AND 46.

10:30:06 >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE 40-42 AND 45 AND 46.

10:30:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

10:30:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS.

10:30:16 >>LUIS VIERA: 40-42 AND 45-46.

10:30:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:30:20 ALL IN FAVOR.

10:30:22 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ARE RECUSING YOURSELF AND WILL

10:30:24 FILE THE FORMULATOR ON.

10:30:27 SO ITEMS 43 AND 44.

10:30:29 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, SO MOVED.

10:30:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

10:30:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND

10:30:35 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:30:38 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING.

10:30:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, WE HAVE NOT MADE MOTION TO

10:30:46 OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

10:30:47 >> SO MOVED.

10:30:47 >> SECOND.

10:30:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS 10:30.

10:31:00 WE CAN OPEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH AIL THE WAY THROUGH 62.

10:31:03 ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS MADE A MOTION TO OPEN

10:31:06 ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FROM 48-62.

10:31:09 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

10:31:11 SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

10:31:13 ALL IN FAVOR.

10:31:15 ALL RIGHT.

10:31:26 WE ARE AT NUMBER 48.

10:31:33 >>ELAINE LUND: GOOD MORNING, I AM ELAINE LUND,

10:31:34 PLANNING STAFF.

10:31:37 IF I HAVE PERMISSION TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.

10:31:39 ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE SCREEN?

10:31:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT YET.

10:31:58 ALL RIGHT, WE CAN HEAR YOUR

10:31:59 SCREEN.

10:32:02 IF YOU WERE NOT SPEAKING, PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF.

10:32:05 IF YOU ARE NOT SPEAKING, PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF.

10:32:10 PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF.

10:32:13 >>ELAINE LUND: ALL RIGHT, SO GOOD MORNING.

10:32:18 THIS IS THE PRESENTATION FOR THE MACFARLANE BUILDING

10:32:20 LOCAL LANDMARK.

10:32:28 PROPERTY 1902 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE.

10:32:33 THE OWNER MACFARLANE BUILDING LCC FOR A LOCAL LANDMARK

10:32:37 ON JUNE 15 AND APPLICATION IS REVIEWED BY THE HISTORIC

10:32:40 PRESENTATION COMMITTEE AND ELIGIBLE PROPERTIES MUST

10:32:46 MEET THE CRITERIA OF 27-257 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE

10:32:50 OF ORDINANCES.

10:32:56 LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION PRESERVES, PROMOTES AND

10:32:59 PROTECTS INDIVIDUAL LANDMARKS AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS

10:33:01 THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:33:06 ON THE LEFT HERE, YOU SEE THE 1915 SANBORN MAP SHOWING

10:33:07 THE BRICK BLOCK.

10:33:10 IT IS OUTLINED IN RED THERE AT THE CORNER OF HOWARD

10:33:12 AVENUE AND CHESTNUT STREET.

10:33:16 ON THE RIGHT, THE PRESENT DAY AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE

10:33:17 SAME PROPERTY.

10:33:19 YOU WILL NOTE THAT TODAY, THE TWO RESIDENTIAL

10:33:22 STRUCTURES THAT WERE SHOWN ON THE 1915 MAP ARE NO

10:33:27 LONGER STANDING.

10:33:32 WEST TAMPA WAS ESTABLISHED BY HUGH MACFARLANE IN THE

10:33:34 LATE 1880S.

10:33:40 HUGH MACFARLANE MANAGED TO GATHER A LARGE GROUP OF

10:33:45 INVESTMENTS, INVESTORS WHO -- CIGAR MANUFACTURERS TO

10:33:48 THE CITY BY CONSTRUCTING CIGAR FACTORIES AND

10:33:50 RESIDENTIAL HOUSING FOR THE WORKERS.

10:33:54 THE PARTICULAR NORTH QUESTION HERE TODAY IN MCFARLANE

10:33:58 BUILDING IS A TWO-STORY BRICK VERNACULAR WITH

10:34:01 RENAISSANCE REVIVAL DETAILS THAT WERE PARTICULARLY

10:34:05 FOUND ON SEVERAL OF THE HISTORIC CIGAR FACTORIES THAT

10:34:07 WERE BUILT IN WEST.

10:34:10 THE WEST TAMPA HISTORIC DISTRICT WAS LISTED IN THE

10:34:14 NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES IN 1983 WITH A

10:34:17 PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE, MEANING THE DATE THAT THE

10:34:20 SIGNIFICANT HISTORIC STRUCTURES WERE FOUND THROUGHOUT

10:34:25 THE DISTRICT FROM 1893 TO 1933.

10:34:29 SO THE MACFARLANE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN THIS PERIOD OF

10:34:32 SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE WEST TAMPA HISTORIC DISTRICT.

10:34:35 THE CITY OF TAMPA REMAINED AN INDEPENDENT INCORPORATED

10:34:38 CITY UNTIL 1925 WHEN IT WAS ANNEX FLOOD THE CITY OF

10:34:40 TAMPA.

10:34:44 THE WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES LIST SOMETHING A

10:34:47 LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY

10:34:50 OF TAMPA IN 2006.

10:34:55 CURRENTLY IT INCLUDES ONE COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND TWO

10:34:58 RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES ON LASALLE STREET.

10:35:01 AS STATED, THE APPLICATION WAS MADE ON JUNE 15 OF 2021,

10:35:05 AND THE HPC REVIEWED THE PROPERTY AND RECOMMENDED FOR

10:35:09 LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION AS PART OF THE WEST

10:35:12 COMPANY MULTIPLE PROPERTIES LISTING ON SEPTEMBER 9,

10:35:13 2021.

10:35:15 THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND

10:35:19 FOUND IT CONSISTENT ON OCTOBER 26 OF THAT YEAR.

10:35:21 NOTICE WAS PROVIDED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO NEARBY

10:35:27 PROPERTY OWNERS AND REGISTERED ORGANIZATIONS.

10:35:31 THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION FOUND THAT THE

10:35:36 APPLICATION DID MEET THE CRITERIA OF SECTION 27-257 AND

10:35:41 THAT IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1905 AND SIGNIFICANT IN THE

10:35:44 AREA OF COMMERCE, COMMUNITY PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT AND

10:35:46 ARCHITECTURE.

10:35:49 AND IN SUMMARY, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT TAMPA CITY

10:35:52 COUNCIL APPROVE THE DESIGNATION OF THE MACFARLANE

10:35:55 BUILDING AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK AND PART OF THE

10:35:58 WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES LISTING BASED ON MEETING

10:36:01 THE CRY TIERRIA 27-257.

10:36:04 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE OWNER WHO IS PRESENT TODAY

10:36:06 FOR HIS SUPPORT OF THIS DESIGNATION AND FOR HIS

10:36:08 INVESTMENT IN HISTORIC WEST TAMPA.

10:36:10 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

10:36:11 THANK YOU.

10:36:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:36:16 SO, AS IT WAS MENTIONED AND I LOVE TAMPA HISTORY SO

10:36:17 MUCH.

10:36:18 THROW IN TIDBITS.

10:36:22 HUGH MCFARLANE IS KNOWN AS THE FATHER OF WEST TAMPA AND

10:36:24 THE NAMESAKE OF THIS BUILDING.

10:36:26 HE WAS CITY ATTORNEY BACK IN 1809, I BELIEVE.

10:36:29 HE WAS CREDITED WITH EXTENDING THE STREETCAR INTO WEST.

10:36:34 MACFARLANE PARK, WHICH HE DONATED TO THE PEOPLE, WAS

10:36:37 ORIGINALLY A GOLF COURSE AND NOW IT IS A BEAUTIFUL

10:36:39 PARK.

10:36:44 SO A LOT -- THERE IS A LOT OF HISTORY BEHIND THIS NAME

10:36:50 AND EVEN BOB HENREQUEZ, OUR PROPERTY APPRAISER, HIS

10:36:55 GREAT GRANDFATHER ONE -- ONE OF THE LAST -- OR MAYORS

10:36:55 OF.

10:36:58 YBOR CITY WAS ANNEXED BY THE CITY.

10:37:02 THE CITY OF WEST TAMPA UNTIL 1925 WAS ITS OWN

10:37:05 ESTABLISHED MUNICIPALITY WITH ITS OWN MAYOR AND

10:37:05 GOVERNMENT.

10:37:08 THAT IS YOUR HISTORY LESSON FOR TODAY.

10:37:09 I HOPE YOU ENJOYED IT.

10:37:12 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?

10:37:13 I HAD TO DO IT.

10:37:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DID WE PASS THE HISTORY LESSON.

10:37:17 THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.

10:37:18 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:37:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY.

10:37:20 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE?

10:37:24 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

10:37:27 >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS --

10:37:27 [INAUDIBLE]

10:37:29 -- THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

10:37:33 WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION WORK IN THE

10:37:37 ANY IN THE PAST AND PLAN TO RESTORE THIS BUILDING AND

10:37:40 DEVELOPMENT IT TO THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS.

10:37:43 WITH US ARE STEPHANIE FARRELL OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION

10:37:49 CONSULTANTS AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

10:37:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT

10:37:52 AND THE CONSULTANT.

10:37:57 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 48?

10:38:00 >> NO ONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON ITEM 48.

10:38:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

10:38:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES,

10:38:07 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:38:11 STEPHANIE FARRELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HISTORIC WORK.

10:38:13 I ALWAYS ADMIRED YOU.

10:38:13 ALL IN FAVOR.

10:38:18 THE PERSON WE LEFT OFF WITH YOU COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

10:38:22 COULD YOU READ NUMBER 48.

10:38:28 >>LYNN HURTAK: ITEM 48 E 2022-8 CHAPTER 27.

10:38:31 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING K, AN

10:38:33 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE

10:38:37 WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES GROUP TO INCLUDE THE

10:38:41 MACFARLANE BUILDING LOCATED 1902 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE,

10:38:44 TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION

10:38:49 3, HEREOF AS A LOCAL LANDMARK PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF

10:38:52 ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY

10:38:56 AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:38:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

10:38:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

10:39:01 AND THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR IS THE ORIGINAL ALESSI

10:39:02 BAKERY.

10:39:05 YOU KNOW, A LITTLE SOMETHING EXTRA.

10:39:07 >>CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:39:12 SECOND READING MAY 5, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.

10:39:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY MOTHER WOULD WAIT ON LINE WITH

10:39:22 MY GRANDPARENTS TO GET BREAD FROM THE BAKERY.

10:39:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONGRATULATIONS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

10:39:32 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

10:39:35 IS MY SCREEN SHARED FOR ITEM 49?

10:39:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:39:38 >>ELAINE LUND: THIS ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU --

10:39:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST A MOMENT.

10:39:41 YES, MA'AM.

10:39:44 >>CLERK: NUMBER 48, THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON

10:39:46 AND VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.

10:39:49 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MAY 5, 2022

10:39:51 AT 9:30 A.M.

10:39:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:39:54 GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

10:39:56 >>ELAINE LUND: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:40:01 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 49 IS 1208 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE.

10:40:03 ADDITIONALLY AN APPLICATION BEFORE YOU FOR

10:40:06 CONSIDERATION FOR LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION

10:40:09 AND IN ADDITION TO THE TAMPA MULTIPLE -- THE WEST TAMPA

10:40:12 MULTIPLE PROPERTIES LISTING.

10:40:18 THE OWNER, AIA TAMPA BAY, SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR

10:40:22 LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION JUNE 22, 2021.

10:40:25 PROPERTIES ARE CONSIDERED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION

10:40:29 COMMISSION BY A PUBLIC MEET TO SEE IF THEM MEET THE

10:40:34 DESIGNATION CRITERIA OF 257 OF THE CITY'S CODE.

10:40:38 LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION PRESERVES HISTORIC LANDMARKS

10:40:41 AND ALLOW FOR THE REVIEW OF ALTERATIONS TO THE

10:40:45 DESIGNATED PROPERTIES AND PROVIDES ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO

10:40:49 THE CITY AT LARGE.

10:40:54 THIS BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED CIRCA 1906 IN THE CITY OF

10:40:54 TAMPA.

10:40:58 ON YOUR LEFT IS 1914 SHOWING THE BRICK STRUCTURE ON

10:41:01 HOWARD AVENUE BETWEEN NASSAU AND ARCH STREETS.

10:41:06 PLEASE NOTE, THIS IS AN ENTIRE BRICK BLOCK MEANING THE

10:41:11 ENTIRE AREA BETWEEN ARCH STREET AND THE ALLEY THERE IS

10:41:15 BRICK, BUT ONLY THE SOUTH HALF OF THE -- THE BRICK

10:41:18 BLOCK IS CONSIDERED TO BE THE STRUCTURE THAT IS UNDER

10:41:20 YOUR REVIEW HERE TODAY.

10:41:23 THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS THE MODERN-DAY AERIAL

10:41:30 PHOTOGRAPH WITH THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED.

10:41:35 THE 1906 BUILDING AT 1208 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE WAS

10:41:38 CONSTRUCTED JUST ACROSS THE ALLEY FROM A PROMINENT

10:41:40 CIGAR FACTORY.

10:41:44 TRADITIONALLY, IT WAS THE SI DAVIS COMPANY HERE, AND NOW

10:41:50 IT IS KNOWN AS THE BALBIN BROTHERS CIGAR FACTORY.

10:41:53 CONSTRUCTED WITH A COMMERCIAL WITH A RESTAURANT IN IT.

10:41:57 AND THE RESTAURANT SERVED WORKERS AT THE CIGAR FACTORY.

10:42:00 HERE YOU SEE SOME IMAGES OF SOME OF THE HISTORIC

10:42:04 INTERIOR THE PRESSED TIN CEILING AND A COLD STORAGE

10:42:12 DOOR WHICH WAS SORT OF BEFORE REFRIGERATORS WERE WIDELY

10:42:13 IN USE.

10:42:17 SO THE WEST TAMPA HISTORIC DISTRICT, AGAIN, WAS LISTED

10:42:22 ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES WITH PERIOD

10:42:24 OF 1893 TO 1933.

10:42:27 THEREFORE, THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT DURING THE PERIOD OF

10:42:31 SIGNIFICANCE OF THE WEST TAMPA HISTORIC DISTRICT.

10:42:33 AND IT IS PROPOSED TO YOU TODAY AS PART OF THE WEST

10:42:37 TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES LISTING AS DESIGNATED BY THE

10:42:38 CITY OF TAMPA.

10:42:42 THE APPLICATION DATE WAS JUNE 22, 2021.

10:42:45 AND THE HPC REVIEWED IT AND RECOMMENDED IT FOR LOCAL

10:42:49 LANDMARK DESIGNATION AS PART OF THIS MULTIPLE

10:42:52 PROPERTIES LISTING ON SEPTEMBER 9, 2021.

10:42:55 DECEMBER 1, 2021, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE

10:42:56 APPLICATION TO BE CONSISTENT.

10:42:59 NOTICE WAS PROVIDED TO THE OWNER, NEARBY PROPERTY

10:43:03 OWNERS AND REGISTERED ORGANIZATIONS.

10:43:07 THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES SECTION 27-257

10:43:10 NOTES THAT THE BUILDING MUST BE CONSTRUCTED OR ACHIEVED

10:43:14 DURING A PERIOD OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE.

10:43:16 AND THIS BUILDING WAS IN 1906.

10:43:22 AND IT STATES THAT THE DESIGNATED LANDS MARKS MUST BE

10:43:24 -- MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA.

10:43:27 THIS BUILDING IS IN THE AREA OF COMMERCE AND IN THE

10:43:31 AREA OF ARCHITECTURE AS A TYPICAL EXAMPLE OF A WEST

10:43:35 TAMPA HISTORIC STRUCTURE FROM THIS EARLIER A.

10:43:39 STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL 1208 NORTH

10:43:43 HOWARD AVENUE AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK AND PART OF

10:43:46 THE WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES LISTING AS BASE ON

10:43:53 THE CRITERIA 2022-257.

10:44:01 STAFF WOULD LIKE TO THANK TAMPA MULTIPROPERTIES GROUP.

10:44:06 AND WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE AIA GROUP IN THE

10:44:07 AUDIENCE.

10:44:09 I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

10:44:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

10:44:12 I DON'T HAVE A HISTORY LESSON ON THIS BUILDING.

10:44:14 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?

10:44:15 NOPE.

10:44:19 YES, SIR, MR. MOORE.

10:44:21 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.

10:44:22 WELCOME, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

10:44:23 NICE TO SEE YOU.

10:44:26 I AM JONATHAN MOORE, THE CURRENT VICE PRESIDENT OF

10:44:28 AIA TAMPA BAY.

10:44:32 ON BEHALF OF OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT GERALD MCCANTS, OUR

10:44:37 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR DON MADRIS WHO ARE HERE AND OUR 750

10:44:40 LOCAL MEMBERS, WE ARE THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO SERVE AS

10:44:46 AN EXAMPLE IN HISTORICALLY DESIGNATING OUR NEW HOME.

10:44:50 WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO BECOME A PART OF WEST TAMPA AND

10:44:54 OPEN THIS RENOVATED -- RENOVATED BUILDING TO THE

10:44:58 COMMUNITY AS THE CENTER FOR ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN.

10:45:02 THIS DESIGNATION WILL ENSURE THAT THIS BUILDING WILL BE

10:45:05 A PERMANENT ASSET TO WEST TAMPA AND NOT BECOME A

10:45:10 PARKING LOT AS A PREVIOUS OWNER WAS LOOKING TO DO.

10:45:13 AND WE WILL BE SURE TO INVITE EVERYONE TO OUR GRAND

10:45:16 OPENING LATER THIS YEAR, AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR

10:45:17 SUPPORT.

10:45:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

10:45:22 NOPE?

10:45:25 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM 49 IN THE AUDIENCE?

10:45:27 I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK.

10:45:30 BUT ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK IN A MOTION TO CLOSE BY

10:45:31 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:45:33 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:45:35 ALL IN FAVOR.

10:45:35 COUNCILMAN GUDES, READ 49.

10:45:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL TAKE A STAB AT IT, FILE NUMBER

10:45:46 E 2022-8 CHAPTER 27, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR

10:45:49 FIRST READING, ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,

10:45:52 AMENDING THE WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES GROUP TO

10:45:54 INCLUDE PROPERTY LOCATED 1208 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE

10:45:58 TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AS A LOCAL

10:46:01 LANDMARK PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCE IN CONFLICT,

10:46:03 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.

10:46:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

10:46:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR OPINION AYE.

10:46:08 ANY OPPOSED.

10:46:11 >>CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE MAY 5,

10:46:14 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.

10:46:17 MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

10:46:19 >>BILL CARLSON: SINCE YOU DIDN'T TELL A HISTORY STORY.

10:46:23 THANKS TO AIA FOR STARTING HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN THE

10:46:23 UNITED STATES.

10:46:25 I HAVE BEEN TO THEIR HEADQUARTERS IN WASHINGTON D.C.

10:46:29 AND TAKEN A TOWARD WITH MICKEY JACOBS THE INTERNATIONAL

10:46:30 PRESIDENT OF AIA.

10:46:33 NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS, REMEMBER THE STORY OF DOLLY

10:46:36 MADISON PULLING THE GEORGE WASHINGTON PAINTING OUT OF

10:46:37 THE WHITE HOUSE --

10:46:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE ONE FADED AT THE BOTTOM.

10:46:43 >>BILL CARLSON: BRITISH INVADED AND WHERE DID THE

10:46:45 PRESIDENT AND HIS WIFE GO, TO A BUILDING TWO BLOCKS

10:46:49 AWAY AND THAT BUILDING IN THE LATE 1800S PRESERVED BY

10:46:53 THE AIA START OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION MOVEMENT IN

10:46:56 THE UNITED STATES AND HEADQUARTERS IS ADJACENT AND CAN

10:47:00 CONNECTED TO IT AND YOU CAN VISIT IT.

10:47:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU GO TO MY OFFICE, I HAVE OLD

10:47:08 LIFE MAGAZINES FROM THE '60S AND URBAN RENEWAL AND LOSS

10:47:14 OF SO MANY BUILDINGS BEFORE HISTORIC WAS A COMMERCIALLY

10:47:16 USED TERM.

10:47:20 I WISH I HAD A TIME MACHINE TO PRESERVE THESE OLD

10:47:22 BUILDINGS BUT WE DO WHAT WE CAN TODAY.

10:47:22 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:47:26 DID WE TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.

10:47:28 DID YOU ANNOUNCE THE SECOND READING.

10:47:29 ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:47:31 WE GO TO OUR 9:30 PUBLIC HEARING.

10:47:33 WE OPENED EVERYTHING.

10:47:35 NONQUASIJUDICIAL.

10:47:38 ITEM NUMBER 50, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WOULD

10:47:41 HAVE TO JUST MOVE THE RESOLUTION AFTERWARDS, CORRECT.

10:47:44 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THAT IS CORRECT.

10:47:46 MR. CHAIR.

10:47:49 SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

10:47:52 AGREEMENT FOR THE MIDTOWN DEVELOPMENT WHICH I AM SURE

10:47:53 YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.

10:47:57 THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS BEING REQUESTED BECAUSE THE PLAT

10:48:01 THAT DEDICATED PUBLIC DRAINAGE EASEMENT DID NOT ALLOW

10:48:04 ENCROACHMENTS AND THE DEVELOP WEAR LIKE TO MAKE A

10:48:10 COUPLE OF ENCROACHMENTS AND THIS AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW

10:48:11 THAT ENCROACHMENT.

10:48:15 STORMWATER STAFF IS WORKING ON DEVELOPING THIS

10:48:17 AGREEMENT AND THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF THE LIMITED

10:48:19 ENCROACHMENT THAT WOULD PROVIDE.

10:48:21 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

10:48:24 I KNOW THE DEVELOPER'S ATTORNEY MR. BENTLEY IS HERE IF

10:48:26 YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

10:48:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

10:48:31 NO?

10:48:32 >> SECOND.

10:48:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE NEED PUBLIC HEARING.

10:48:38 MR. BENTLEY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

10:48:38 >> NO THANKS.

10:48:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THINKING OF THE HARD DAY'S NIGHT.

10:48:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU KNOW A LOT ABOUT CHARITY.

10:48:48 WHAT IS THAT CHORD ON THE GUITAR.

10:48:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR HARD'S DAY NIGHT?

10:48:53 I DON'T KNOW -- I KNOW IT IS COMPLICATED IF YOU GO TO

10:48:54 YOUTUBE.

10:48:55 A PROFESSOR DID AN ANALYSIS.

10:48:56 >> THE ANSWER IS YOU DON'T KNOW.

10:48:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T KNOW BUT I KNOW A LOT OF

10:48:59 STUFF.

10:49:03 >> I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

10:49:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO

10:49:08 SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 50.

10:49:10 WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED.

10:49:12 MOVE THE RESOLUTION BEFORE WE CLOSE OR AFTER.

10:49:15 MOTION TO CLOSE.

10:49:19 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND SECOND

10:49:21 FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:49:21 ALL IN FAVOR.

10:49:23 WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.

10:49:25 WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.

10:49:30 >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE, FILE NUMBER -- AM I -- APPRECIATE

10:49:30 IT.

10:49:34 RESOLUTION APPROVED FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT

10:49:37 AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND TAMPA BAY 1 LCC

10:49:42 AUTHORIZING THE EXCUSE THEREOF BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY

10:49:45 OF TAMPA PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:49:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

10:49:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION CARRIED.

10:49:53 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES ABSENT AT VOTE.

10:50:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 51, NONQUASI.

10:50:02 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM

10:50:03 THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

10:50:07 THIS IS A SECOND READING FOR CHAPTER 5 AMENDMENTS FOR

10:50:12 CONSIDERATION BASED ON THE 2021 LEGISLATIVE SESSION

10:50:13 UPDATE.

10:50:17 AND -- I BELIEVE STAFF ORIGINALLY AND -- THE BUILDING

10:50:23 OFFICIAL JC HUTCHINSON AND ABBYE FEELEY AND FOR THE

10:50:24 FIRST READING.

10:50:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

10:50:27 HEARING NONE.

10:50:32 WE DO HAVE JEAN STROHMEYER, REGISTERED FOR PUBLIC

10:50:33 COMMENT.

10:50:35 UNMUTE YOURSELF IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND

10:50:37 SPEAK.

10:50:40 IS JEAN LOGGED IN?

10:50:42 >>CLERK: JEAN, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE

10:50:45 YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

10:50:47 SHE IS CURRENTLY STUCK IN MUTE.

10:50:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JEAN, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, UNMUTE

10:50:56 YOURSELF.

10:51:03 JEAN STROHMEYER.

10:51:06 THAT IS THE ONLY REGISTERED PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE

10:51:06 HAVE.

10:51:10 ONE LAST CALL FOR JEAN -- JEAN?

10:51:11 >> HELLO?

10:51:12 SORRY.

10:51:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

10:51:14 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

10:51:15 >> OKAY, WAIT.

10:51:16 I AM WORKING.

10:51:18 WHAT ISSUE ARE WE ON.

10:51:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 51.

10:51:21 YOU ARE ALSO REGISTERED FOR 53.

10:51:23 THIS IS FOR 51.

10:51:24 >> OKAY.

10:51:31 HI, MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER, ITEM 51 OF AMENDING THE

10:51:31 CODE.

10:51:35 I FORGOT WHAT THIS WAS ABOUT AND THAT IS OKAY.

10:51:35 I HAVE AN ACTUAL JOB.

10:51:37 AMENDING THE CODE.

10:51:39 WE NEED TO AMEND THE CODE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BALANCE

10:51:44 OF POWER IS FAIR FOR EVERYBODY.

10:51:49 BECAUSE THIS STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT -- I AM --

10:51:51 LOOKING AT IT ON THE AGENDA.

10:51:53 BUT IT IS TOO MUCH.

10:51:55 SO THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

10:51:57 HAVE A GREAT DAY.

10:51:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:52:00 ANYBODY ELSE?

10:52:01 ALL RIGHT.

10:52:03 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?

10:52:06 IF NOT, MOTION TO CLOSE.

10:52:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION.

10:52:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

10:52:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

10:52:11 AYE.

10:52:15 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I BELIEVE WE LEFT OFF FROM YOU,

10:52:15 SIR.

10:52:17 ITEM 51.

10:52:22 >>BILL CARLSON: I LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER E 2022-8 CH

10:52:25 5, ORDINANCE PROVIDED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION

10:52:28 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA MAKING REVISIONS TO THE

10:52:32 CITY TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 5, BUILDING CODE

10:52:36 AMENDING SECTION 5-105.3.

10:52:45 APPLICATION FOR A PERMIT AMENDING SECTION 5-105.3.1.

10:52:53 ACTION ON ACTION AMENDING SECTION 5.105.3.4 TIME LIMIT

10:53:00 ON SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS, REFUSAL TO ISSUE PERMIT.

10:53:04 AND AMENDING SECTION 5-106.1.

10:53:09 SUBMITTAL DOCUMENTS AMENDING SECTION 5.106.5, RETENTION

10:53:14 OF CONSTRUCTION AMENDING SECTION 5-109.1.

10:53:19 INSPECTIONS AND SECTION 5-109.5 INSPECTION REQUEST

10:53:22 REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN

10:53:29 CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING SO FOR SEVERABILITY.

10:53:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

10:53:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.

10:53:36 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

10:53:37 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:53:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:53:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:53:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:53:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:53:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:53:49 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:53:52 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIRMAN, NEXT TIME GET THE ONE

10:53:53 WITH FEWER NUMBERS.

10:53:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL SEE WHAT I CAN DO.

10:53:59 NUMBER 52, IF YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN RISE YOUR RIGHT

10:54:01 HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.

10:54:09 VIRTUAL AND IN-PERSON APPEARANCES.

10:54:10 [SWEARING IN]

10:54:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EVERYBODY HAS BEEN SWORN IN.

10:54:16 ITEM NUMBER 52, ANNIE BARNES, GO AHEAD,

10:54:18 >>ANNIE BARNES: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:54:24 ANNIE BARNES, SU-221-07 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION

10:54:29 FOR 201, 203 AND 205 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE.

10:54:32 SPECIAL USE 2 FOR A BANK DRIVE IN.

10:54:35 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AT CITY HALL YESTERDAY AND

10:54:37 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.

10:54:38 ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

10:54:39 NO QUESTIONS.

10:54:42 THANK YOU.

10:54:45 ALL RIGHT, I SAW JONATHAN SCOTT, BUT HE IS OFF CAMERA.

10:54:47 NO?

10:54:51 I GUESS THE APPLICANT.

10:54:54 YOU ARE THE APPLICANT -- ARE YOU THE APPLICANT?

10:54:56 >> YES, SIR.

10:54:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SAW HIM COME ON AND OFF.

10:55:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I INDUSTRIAL ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT

10:55:02 THIS.

10:55:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH JONATHAN SCOTT.

10:55:09 IF JONATHAN SCOTT IS ON.

10:55:11 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:55:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SCOTT, AGAIN, YOU HAVE ENTRANCES

10:55:18 AND EXITS ON ONE-WAY STREETS THAT RUN PERPENDICULAR TO

10:55:19 ONE ANOTHER.

10:55:26 THAT HAS PASSED THROUGH TRANSPORTATION.

10:55:29 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: YES, WE REVIEWED THAT AND WE ARE OKAY

10:55:32 WITH IT.

10:55:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN, I HAVE CONCERNS.

10:55:37 THE ONLY THING I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS APPLICATION.

10:55:44 I CAN JUST SEE RIGHT NOW IN THE FUTURE BACK-UPS ON --

10:55:47 WHAT IS IT, CLEVELAND AND HOWARD.

10:55:49 MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:55:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:55:52 ANY QUESTIONS?

10:55:55 MR. MOORE.

10:55:58 >> JONATHAN MOORE, ENVISION ADVISORS.

10:56:01 OTHER THE AUTHORIZED OWNERS AND ADVISORS ON THE

10:56:02 PROJECT.

10:56:03 HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

10:56:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MOORE, YOU JUST HEARD OUR COMMENT.

10:56:08 YOU HAVE TO ADMIT WITH ENTRANCE AND EXITS JUST TWO OF

10:56:12 THEM ON ONE WAY STREETS GOING PERPENDICULAR TO ONE

10:56:15 ANOTHER, I SEE THIS AS A -- AS A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE

10:56:17 ESPECIALLY DURING RUSH SHOWER.

10:56:20 >> THERE IS A TURN ALSO OUT OF THE ALLEY.

10:56:24 WE ARE RIGHT TURN ONLY ON TO CLEVELAND, HOWEVER.

10:56:26 WE DON'T WANT OUR PATRONS TO GO TO THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE

10:56:28 OF THE ALLEY.

10:56:30 YOU KNOW, IT IS A SMALL COMMUNITY BANK.

10:56:33 WE DON'T ANTICIPATE A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.

10:56:37 WE DO HAVE TWO DRIVE-THRU LANES.

10:56:41 AND WE EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES.

10:56:43 SO WE DON'T THINK THAT WILL BE AN ISSUE.

10:56:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU SAID RIGHT TURN ON TO CLEVELAND.

10:56:48 >> RIGHT TURN INTO THE ALLEY.

10:56:51 RIGHT TURN ONLY ON TO THE ALLEY, NOT LEFT TURN.

10:56:53 I APOLOGIZE.

10:56:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR.

10:56:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:56:57 MR. MOORE, THANK YOU.

10:56:59 JUST FUTURE THOUGHT.

10:57:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN ELSE?

10:57:02 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

10:57:03 >> NO, SIR.

10:57:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY HERE IN THE PUBLIC THAT

10:57:07 PUSHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 52?

10:57:11 I SEE NONE AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS

10:57:12 FOR 52.

10:57:13 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.

10:57:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.

10:57:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND

10:57:22 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:57:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SU 2-21-TO 7, ORDINANCE SECOND

10:57:32 READING AND APPROVAL A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2

10:57:36 APPROVING A BANK DRIVE-IN A CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL

10:57:42 ZONING DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 201, 203 AND

10:57:45 205 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA.

10:57:49 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF AND

10:57:50 PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:57:51 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.

10:57:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:57:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY.

10:57:56 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

10:57:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:58:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:58:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:58:03 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:58:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:58:10 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:58:11 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:58:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 53, ANNIE BARNES IS ON THE

10:58:15 LINE,

10:58:20 >>ANNIE BARNES: LAND DEVELOPMENT, ITEM NUMBER 53,

10:58:29 REZ-21-89 FOR 5202 SOUTH PURITAN AVENUE FROM RS-60 TO

10:58:31 RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.

10:58:34 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.

10:58:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

10:58:38 YES, SIR, MR. MICHELINI.

10:58:40 >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

10:58:42 YOU MIGHT RECALL THIS PETITION WAS REORIENTED THE

10:58:46 EXISTING TWO LOTS AND TURNING THEM SO THEY ARE

10:58:48 CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE OTHER HOUSES

10:58:51 ON -- ALONG BALLAST POINT.

10:58:53 I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.

10:58:55 I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

10:58:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

10:58:58 HEARING NONE.

10:59:00 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM

10:59:01 NUMBER 53.

10:59:03 SEEING NO ONE.

10:59:09 I KNOW JEAN STROHMEYER WHO IS REGISTERED AND JEAN

10:59:11 HAS BEEN SWORN IN, I BELIEVE.

10:59:17 NO, YOU KNOW WHAT, MISS STROHMEYER, IF WE CAN SWEAR YOU

10:59:19 IN.

10:59:23 DOES SHE NEED TO BE -- CAN YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.

10:59:26 WE NEED TO SEE YOUR FACE BECAUSE IT IS A SECOND READING

10:59:30 AND QUASI JUDICIAL.

10:59:34 JEAN STROHMEYER.

10:59:36 >>CLERK: SHE IS CURRENTLY SELF-MUTED.

10:59:39 SHE WILL NEED TO UNMUTE HERSELF AND ACTIVATE HER CAMERA

10:59:42 SO SHE CAN BE SWORN IN.

10:59:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, JEAN STROHMEYER, FULL PLEASE

10:59:50 UNMUTE YOURSELF AND TURN YOUR CAMERA ON SO WE CAN SEE

10:59:52 YOUR FACE AND SWEAR YOU IN.

10:59:57 >>CLERK: JEAN IS CURRENTLY NOT REGISTERED.

10:59:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC

11:00:00 COMMENT VIRTUALLY.

11:00:01 THE ONLY PERSON.

11:00:02 A MOTION TO CLOSE.

11:00:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.

11:00:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

11:00:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:00:07 ANY OPPOSED?

11:00:11 COUNCILMAN VIERA, READ ITEM 53.

11:00:13 >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND

11:00:19 ADOPTION REZONING PROPERTY 520 2 SOUTH PURITAN

11:00:20 AVENUE IN THE ST. CITY OF TAMPA MORE PARTICULARLY

11:00:25 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, REZONING RS-60 RESIDENTIAL

11:00:28 SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY.

11:00:29 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:00:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:00:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:00:36 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:00:37 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:00:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:00:40 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:00:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:00:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:00:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:00:46 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:00:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.

11:00:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEMS NUMBER 54.

11:00:56 MISS BARNES.

11:01:02 >>ANNIE BARNES: ITEM NUMBER 54 REZ-21-122.

11:01:06 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION 409 SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE.

11:01:12 FROM RM-16 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY TO PD, PLANNED

11:01:14 DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND

11:01:17 RESIDENTIAL TWO-FAMILY.

11:01:20 AND DOCUMENTS WERE DROPPED OFF.

11:01:23 I AM AVAILABLE TO IN QUESTIONS.

11:01:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SEE MR. DOBSON.

11:01:28 RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR NEW BEFORE YOU

11:01:29 SPEAK.

11:01:32 [SWEARING IN]

11:01:33 >> I DO.

11:01:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR, GO

11:01:36 AHEAD.

11:01:38 >> NO REAL ISSUES HERE.

11:01:40 I BELIEVE EVERYTHING WAS FOUND CONSISTENT BY ALL THE

11:01:41 DEPARTMENTS THAT REVIEWED.

11:01:45 AND WE RECEIVED A FAVORABLE VOTE LAST TIME.

11:01:50 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

11:01:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

11:01:54 HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE.

11:01:57 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER

11:01:58 54?

11:01:59 I SEE NO ONE.

11:02:02 AND THE GENTLEMAN IS THE ONLY REGISTERED SPEAKER.

11:02:04 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.

11:02:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION.

11:02:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:02:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:02:10 ANY OPPOSED.

11:02:12 COUNCILMAN CITRO, READ ITEM 54.

11:02:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: REZ-21-122, AN ORDINANCE BEING

11:02:21 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OF REZONING

11:02:26 THE PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 409 SOUTH

11:02:29 FREMONT AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE

11:02:32 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING

11:02:37 CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY TO PD,

11:02:38 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY

11:02:42 DETACHED AND RESIDENTIAL TWO-FAMILY, PROVIDING FOR AN

11:02:43 EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:02:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:02:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:02:47 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:02:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:02:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:02:50 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:02:51 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:02:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:02:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:02:56 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:03:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU.

11:03:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANNIE BARNES.

11:03:06 >>ANNIE BARNES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

11:03:06 ANNIE BARNES.

11:03:11 NUMBER 55 IS REZ-21-125 FOR SECOND READING AN ADOPTION

11:03:15 FOR 2501 NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE.

11:03:20 THE REQUEST IS FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY TO

11:03:22 RS-50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY.

11:03:24 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:03:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? DO WE

11:03:30 HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 55?

11:03:32 WE DO NOT HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE.

11:03:37 NO ONE REGISTERED FOR 55.

11:03:41 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?

11:03:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.

11:03:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

11:03:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:03:51 SECOND BY MIRANDA.

11:03:52 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

11:03:53 NUMBER 55.

11:03:59 >>LYNN HURTAK: 55, FILE NUMBER R EZ 21-125.

11:04:01 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ORDINANCE REZONING

11:04:09 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2501 NORTH GLENWOOD

11:04:11 DRIVE IN CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY

11:04:15 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION

11:04:19 RS-60 AND RS-50.

11:04:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

11:04:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:04:26 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:04:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:04:27 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:04:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:04:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:04:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:04:37 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:04:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP, ITEM NUMBER 56.

11:04:40 YES, MA'AM.

11:04:40 ANNIE BARNES.

11:04:46 >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, ITEM NUMBER 5, FILE

11:04:51 NUMBER REZ-22-22, FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION FOR

11:04:58 3304 WEST HORATIO STREET FROM RM-24 TO PD FOR PLACE OF

11:05:01 RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.

11:05:06 AND DOCUMENTS WERE DROPPED OFF AND I AM AVAILABLE ANY

11:05:06 QUESTIONS.

11:05:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF I QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

11:05:09 APPLICANT FOR 56?

11:05:13 >> JONATHAN MOORE, ENVISION ADVISORS, THE OWNER'S

11:05:15 REPRESENTATIVE FOR FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF TAMPA.

11:05:17 YOU RECALL THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT THE FIRST

11:05:20 PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF TAMPA SOLD THEIR PROPERTY

11:05:21 DOWNTOWN.

11:05:24 THEY ARE MOVING TO SOUTH TAMPA ON THE PROPERTY OF AN

11:05:30 OLD UNITARIAN CHURCH THAT HAD SEVERAL NONCOMPLIANT

11:05:33 ZONING ISSUES THAT WE BROUGHT THAT INTO COMPLIANCE AND

11:05:35 ASK FOR A FEW WAIVERS.

11:05:36 I BELIEVE EVERYTHING IS FOUND CONSISTENT.

11:05:38 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

11:05:41 AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

11:05:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?

11:05:45 WE DO NOT.

11:05:47 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM

11:05:49 NUMBER 56?

11:05:50 WE DO NOT.

11:05:52 AND WE HAVE NOT ANYBODY REGISTERED.

11:05:54 HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?

11:05:56 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:05:59 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:06:02 COUNCILMAN GUDES, ITEM NUMBER 56 IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

11:06:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER REZ 22-22, ORDINANCE

11:06:10 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VIN TEE OF 3302 WEST

11:06:13 HORATIO STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE

11:06:15 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 OF ZONING DISTRICT

11:06:21 CLASSIFICATION RM-24, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY TO PD,

11:06:23 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY

11:06:27 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:06:31 ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE BY CARLSON-MANISCALCO, THAT

11:06:35 THE APPLICANT HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE

11:06:41 COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FURTHER IN THE

11:06:43 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CITY CODE THAT IT WILL NOT

11:06:48 SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS WHOSE

11:06:51 PROPERTY WILL BE FA AFFECTED BY THE WAIVERS AND THAT

11:06:55 THE SITE PLAN BY ANNIE BARNES FROM DEVELOPMENT AND

11:06:56 GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

11:06:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:06:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:07:00 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:07:03 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:07:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:07:05 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:07:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:07:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:07:10 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:07:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:07:14 ITEM NUMBER 57.

11:07:19 WE HAVE -- YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

11:07:19 >> LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

11:07:22 I NEED TO BE SWORN IN, PLEASE.

11:07:26 [SWEARING-IN]

11:07:28 >> I DO.

11:07:31 ROSS SALMANS LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

11:07:37 PRESENTING V AC 21-18 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

11:07:40 A VACATING REQUEST FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ALLEYWAY

11:07:43 LOCATED SOUTH OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD, NORTH OF CLEVELAND

11:07:50 STREET, EAST OF HESPERIDES STREET AND WEST OF LAUBER

11:07:51 WAY.

11:07:54 STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

11:07:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OF THE GENTLEMAN?

11:07:56 NOPE?

11:07:58 OKAY.

11:07:58 MR. PRESSMAN.

11:08:02 YOU ARE IN PERSON BUT REGISTERED VIRTUALLY.

11:08:03 SO I WILL SCRATCH YOU OUT HERE.

11:08:04 GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:08:08 >> I ASSUME YOU PREFER ME HERE PERSONALLY, MR.

11:08:08 CHAIRMAN.

11:08:10 BUT I WILL WAIVE A PRESENTATION UNLESS THERE ARE

11:08:12 QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, IF I MAY.

11:08:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE

11:08:15 APPLICANT IF I MAY.

11:08:18 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK

11:08:20 ON ITEM NUMBER 57?

11:08:23 NO ONE REGISTERED OTHER THAN THE GENTLEMAN THAT IS

11:08:24 HERE.

11:08:27 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?

11:08:28 >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION.

11:08:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:08:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:08:34 ANY OPPOSED.

11:08:37 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ITEM NUMBER 57.

11:08:42 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE FILE NUMBER VAC 21-18, PRESENTED

11:08:45 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ORDINANCE OF THE CITY

11:08:47 OF TAMPA, TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING CLOSING

11:08:52 DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING A RIGHT-OF-WAY, ALLEYWAY

11:08:56 LOCATED SOUTH OF KENNEDY, NORTH OF CLEVELAND STREET,

11:09:02 EAST OF HESPERIDES STREET, AND WEST OF LAUBER WAY WITH

11:09:07 THE PLAT OF ROSEMONT SUBDIVISION, OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,

11:09:10 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT

11:09:15 AND PENALTY, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS

11:09:17 AND REPEALING CONFLICTS PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND

11:09:20 PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:09:21 >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.

11:09:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.

11:09:24 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:09:25 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:09:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:09:29 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:09:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.

11:09:35 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:09:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:09:39 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO AND

11:09:46 CITRO BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.

11:09:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 58.

11:09:52 WE COULDN'T DO THIS EARLIER BECAUSE IT WASN'T THE TIME.

11:09:57 BUT AN ITEM TO BE CONTINUED UNTIL

11:09:57 MAY 5.

11:10:00 A MOTION TO CONTINUE.

11:10:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION.

11:10:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.

11:10:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:10:05 OPPOSED?

11:10:09 ALL RIGHT, WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 59.

11:10:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:10:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT A PUBLIC COMMENT ON

11:10:15 THE CONTINUANCE?

11:10:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IS HERE TO

11:10:19 SPEAK TO IT.

11:10:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE TO SPEAK ON 58, BY ANY

11:10:22 CHANCE?

11:10:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, THANK YOU.

11:10:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL ASK AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE

11:10:26 THE CONTINUANCE.

11:10:28 NO ONE REGISTERED.

11:10:32 ITEM NUMBER 59, GO AHEAD, ROSS.

11:10:39 >> I WILL LIKE TO ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN,

11:10:50 PLEASE CAN EVERYBODY SEE MY SCREEN?

11:10:52 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:11:00 >> ROSS SALMON, PROVIDING FILE NUMBER VAC-22-01.

11:11:02 THE APPLICANT IS MAKO WASH, INC.

11:11:07 PROPOSED REQUEST IS TO VACATE A PORTION OF THE ALLEY TO

11:11:10 SOUTH OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD, NORTH OF CLEVELAND AVENUE,

11:11:13 EAST OF MOODY AVENUE AND WEST OF HOWARD AVENUE.

11:11:20 CREATED FOR THE ALLEY IS IN THE PLAT OF OSCAWANA AND IN

11:11:22 THE COMMERCIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT.

11:11:24 THE APPLICATION WAS FILED NOVEMBER 2, 2021.

11:11:26 THE APPLICANT OWNS ALL THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH SIDE

11:11:32 OF THE ALLEY AND THE LOT TO THE ABUTTING PORTION OF THE

11:11:34 REQUEST TO BE VACATED.

11:11:38 THE REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS FOLLOWS: THE ALLEY

11:11:41 IS A LITTERING AND STRONG GARBAGE AREA AND CONSTRAINT

11:11:42 CLEANUP.

11:11:45 UNSECURED AND UNSAFE AT NIGHT.

11:11:48 COMPLEMENTED BY A DARK PARKING LOT WITH NO LIGHTS, VERY

11:11:51 HIGH WINDOWLESS BUILDINGS ON BOTH SIDES THAT PERFECT

11:11:55 TPD NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTS.

11:11:58 THE ALLEY IN THE SOUTH HOWARD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND

11:12:02 NO CODE VIOLATION EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY.

11:12:05 AGAIN, HE IS REQUESTING TO VACATE THE EAST LEG OF A

11:12:10 T-SHAPED ALLEY ON 103 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE.

11:12:15 AND THE ALLEY HAS 1800 SQUARE FEET.

11:12:20 COMPLETELY APPROVED ASPHALT PAVING AND OF THE OWNERS OF

11:12:24 THE NORTH AND SOUTH PORTION AS ACCESS TO HOWARD AVENUE.

11:12:27 SOLID WASTE USES THE ALLEY FOR TRASH COLLECTION.

11:12:32 WASTEWATER, TECO, FRONTIER LOCATING THE ALLEY.

11:12:34 THE ALLEY CONTINUES TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT ALLEY

11:12:35 AND IS APPROVED.

11:12:38 THE ALLEY OF THE EAST WAS PARTIALLY VACATED AND NO

11:12:42 LONGER CONTINUES IN ITS ORIGINAL CONFIGURATION.

11:12:45 HOWEVER, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WAS REQUIRED TO

11:12:47 DEDICATE A TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT OVER THE PROPERTY TO

11:12:50 ALLOW FOR VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN USE OVER THE PARCEL

11:12:55 TO ACCESS THE REMAINDER OF THE IMPROVED ALLEY AT THAT

11:12:57 BLOCK.

11:13:02 THE YELLOW SECTION IS THE REQUESTED VACATING SECTION OF

11:13:05 THE T-SHAPED ALLEY.

11:13:06 THE NORTH-SOUTH SECTION.

11:13:08 EAST-WEST SECTION.

11:13:10 THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS IN RED IN THE NORTH AND TO

11:13:16 THE SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED VACATING.

11:13:19 IN PINK IS THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.

11:13:23 AND THE PREVIOUS 20-FOOT TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT

11:13:28 DEDICATED THAT I SPOKE OF IS IN BLUE HERE.

11:13:33 TO THE EAST OF THE PROPOSED VACATING.

11:13:37 AGAIN, IN RED, THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS

11:13:44 LOCATED WITHIN THE OSCAWANA PLAT.

11:13:50 HERE IT SHOWS WITHIN -- WITHIN THIS SECTION THE AREA OF

11:13:52 THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST AND, AGAIN, THE

11:14:00 OSCAWANA PLAT SUBDIVISION HERE.

11:14:04 THE EAST-WEST SECTION OF THE ALLEYWAY EAST FROM MOODY

11:14:05 AVENUE.

11:14:09 THE PORTION OF THE ALLEY IS THE SUBJECT VACATING.

11:14:12 EAST-WEST PORTION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST FROM THE

11:14:15 INTERSECTION OF THE NORTH AND SOUTH PORTION OF THE

11:14:15 ALLEY.

11:14:21 THIS IS THE SUBJECT OF THE VACATING REQUEST.

11:14:24 AGAIN, THE EAST-WEST VALLEY LOOKING EAST OF MOODY

11:14:25 ANTICIPATE.

11:14:31 THIS PORTION IS NOT TO BE VACATED.

11:14:33 EAST OF THE PORTION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST OF THE

11:14:36 INTERSECTION OF THE NORTH-SOUTH PORTION OF THE ALLEY.

11:14:42 THIS PORTION IS NOT TO BE VACATED.

11:14:46 AGAIN, THE NORTH-SOUTH PORTION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING

11:14:47 NORTH FROM CLEVELAND STREET.

11:14:52 THIS PORTION IS NOT TO BE VACATED.

11:14:56 AND NORTH-SOUTH SECTION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING SOUTH FROM

11:15:00 THE EAST AND WEST PORTION OF THE ALLEY.

11:15:01 REQUESTS TO BE VACATED.

11:15:04 THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH FROM

11:15:08 KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

11:15:13 THESE ARE PROPERTY OWNERS TOWN HOMES THAT ARE ABUT

11:15:15 TODAY NORTH AND SOUTH SECTION OF THE ALLEY THAT IS

11:15:20 REQUESTED TO BE VACATED.

11:15:25 AND, AGAIN, TOWN HOMES.

11:15:28 AND RECOMMENDATION STAFF REJECTS TO THE VACATING

11:15:31 REQUEST BASE AND RESPONSES RECEIVED FROM TRANSPORTATION

11:15:35 PLANNING, TRAFFIC DESIGN, SOUTHWEST AND URBAN DESIGN.

11:15:38 THE REQUEST IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, EASEMENT IS

11:15:42 REQUIRED FOR OVERALL FOR WASTEWATER, TECO, VOLUNTEER,

11:15:43 TRANSPORTATION AND SOLID WASTE.

11:15:51 AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT ANNIE MIKULSKI WITH

11:15:55 URBAN DESIGN IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

11:15:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:15:58 DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS?

11:16:00 YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:16:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROSS.

11:16:04 PUT BACK UP THE ACTUAL PHOTO OF THE ALLEY BEING

11:16:11 VACATED.

11:16:12 >> THIS SECTION HERE?

11:16:14 THE EAST AND WEST SECTION AND THE STOP SIGNS THAT YOU

11:16:18 SEE ARE ALONG THE NORTH AND SOUTH SECTION OF THE ALLEY,

11:16:25 THE T-SHAPED ALLEY AND THE TOWNHOMES OF THE NORTH AND

11:16:26 SOUTH SECTION.

11:16:29 AND THIS EASTERLY PORTION OF THE ALLEY IS TO REQUEST TO

11:16:31 BE VACATED.

11:16:38 BETWEEN THE PARKING HERE AND THIS WALL.

11:16:41 GUDES WHAT IS PAST -- GOING TO THE STOP SIGN FURTHER TO

11:16:42 THE EAST.

11:16:49 AN OPEN ALLEY TOO.

11:16:50 >> YES, I WILL BRING THAT UP.

11:16:52 THIS IS LOOKING THE OTHER WAY.

11:16:53 THAT WAS LOOKING EAST.

11:16:55 WE WERE LOOKING WEST FROM THE PREVIOUS IMAGE AND THIS

11:16:57 IS LOOKING EAST.

11:17:00 IF YOU CAN SEE HERE THE GRASS IN THE BACKGROUND PAST

11:17:02 THIS FENCE, THIS IS THE SECTION REQUESTING TO BE

11:17:07 VACATED.

11:17:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY, INTERESTING.

11:17:11 THANK YOU.

11:17:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:17:13 ANY QUESTIONS?

11:17:15 WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:17:23 MR. PRESSMAN, YES, SIR.

11:17:28 >> YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT?

11:17:29 I AM THE APPLICANT.

11:17:32 YOU SAID PUBLIC SO I WANT TO MAKE HOUR.

11:17:34 I HAVE A POWERPOINT.

11:17:39 VACATE 22 -- MANY 0S 1.

11:17:42 THERE IS LOITERING, TRASH.

11:17:50 THERE IS A BAD SEPTED CRIMINAL PLANNING AREA AND ALSO

11:17:53 ELIMINATES PUBLIC SAFETY AND DANGEROUS TRAFFIC

11:17:53 SITUATION.

11:17:58 THIS IS THE ACTUAL VACATED AREA BETWEEN HOWARD AND

11:18:00 MOODY ON THE OTHER SIDE.

11:18:03 THIS IS THE CITY STAFF SLIDE, WHICH TELLS YOU THE

11:18:05 SOLID WASTE USES PART OF IT.

11:18:10 AND THE TOWN HOMES THAT ARE LOCATED.

11:18:13 BUT SOLID WASTE ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED ON THE OTHER

11:18:14 SIDE OF THE ALLEY.

11:18:20 AND WE CONSIDER AND PROPOSE A BAD SAFETY CONFLICT HERE

11:18:24 ON THE EXITING OF THE ALLEYWAY THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO

11:18:31 VACATE BECAUSE AS SHOWN BY THE STAFF, THERE IS -- THERE

11:18:41 IS A CIRCUITOUS WAY THE ALLEY CONTINUES ON THE NEXT

11:18:42 BLOCK.

11:18:46 AS THE CIRCLE K WAS RENOVATED OR REDEVELOPED, THE

11:18:49 ALLEYWAY WAS CONTINUED BUT PLACED FURTHER BACK.

11:18:55 SO JUST A LITTLE SKIP TO CONTINUE IN THAT EASTWARD

11:19:00 FUNCTION, BUT HOWARD IS A ONE-WAY STREET.

11:19:03 WHEN YOU EXIT THE ALLEY THAT WE ARE PROPOSING, YOU CAN

11:19:06 SEE JUST A LITTLE SKIP AROUND TO CONTINUE ON THAT

11:19:09 EASTWARD ALLEY.

11:19:13 AND LET'S FACE IT, LOOKING TO GET A QUICK CUP OF

11:19:13 COFFEE.

11:19:16 WANTING TO GET TRAFFIC A LITTLE BIT.

11:19:18 SKIRT AROUND A LITTLE BIT.

11:19:25 SO WE ARE PROPOSING OR RAISING TO YOU THAT THE

11:19:27 ACCOMMODATION THAT WAS DONE IN MOVING THAT ALLEYWAY IN

11:19:32 THE NEXT BLOCK ENTICES A BAD OR VERY BAD TRAFFIC

11:19:35 ELEMENT, AGAIN, BECAUSE HOWARD IS A ONE WAY.

11:19:42 SO THE ALLEY WAY IS LOCATED NEXT TO THIS PARKING LOT,

11:19:45 THE ADJACENT PARKING LOT, SPECIFICALLY THE ALLEY THAT

11:19:47 IS SEGMENT.

11:19:51 YOU CAN BEGIN TO SEE THE VERY HIGH WALLS, OVERBEARING

11:19:54 STRUCTURES THAT ARE VERY DARK AT NIGHT, WHICH PROVIDE

11:19:59 AREAS FOR PEOPLE TO LOITER OR TO HIDE.

11:20:05 THIS IS THE SAME ELEMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE AND YOU CAN

11:20:10 SEE EVEN WORSE HERE.

11:20:15 SEPTED PLANNING HAS FOUR BASIC ELEMENTS: NATURAL

11:20:16 SURVEILLANCE.

11:20:19 THERE IS VERY LITTLE SURVEILLANCE BECAUSE IN PART OF IT

11:20:20 BY THE TOWN HOMES.

11:20:22 NATURAL ACCESS CONTROL.

11:20:24 SO THERE IS CONTROL OR PEOPLE CAN SEE THERE IS CONTROL,

11:20:26 WHICH THERE IS VERY LITTLE.

11:20:30 TERRITORIAL REINFORCEMENT, WHICH THERE ISN'T.

11:20:31 MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT AS WELL.

11:20:35 SO BETWEEN THOSE CONCERNS, WE THOUGHT IT WAS

11:20:39 SUPPORTABLE TO BRING FORWARD FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO

11:20:41 CONSIDER AND APPROVE.

11:20:43 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

11:20:44 QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

11:20:44 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:20:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:20:49 MR. PRESSMAN, POLICE RECORDS AND DOCUMENTATION OF

11:20:53 ARRESTS OR LOITERING OR CODE ENFORCEMENT RECORDS OF

11:20:57 HAVING TO PICK UP TRASH OR CLEAR THE ALLEY OUT?

11:21:03 >> THE CAR WASH OWNER DOES DO PICK UP FROM GARBAGE

11:21:06 BECAUSE HE HAS A PRETTY SIZABLE PORTION ALONG KENNEDY.

11:21:09 I HAVE TRAFFIC READ OUT FROM THE INTERSECTION WHICH IS

11:21:11 ABOUT 30 ACCIDENTS OVER A YEAR.

11:21:15 BUT I DO -- I WANT TO BE COMPLETELY CLEAR, THAT IS AT

11:21:16 THE INTERSECTION.

11:21:19 HARD TO DISCERN WHERE THOSE ACCIDENTS OCCUR.

11:21:22 BEYOND THAT, THOSE ARE -- THAT IS THE ONLY DATA OR

11:21:23 RECORDS THAT I HAVE.

11:21:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU HAVE THEM PHYSICAL ON YOU

11:21:27 TODAY?

11:21:29 >> I HAVE THE ACTION RECORD, YES.

11:21:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY ANY PLEASE AND THANK YOU, MR.

11:21:34 CHAIR.

11:21:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. WIGGINTON, ANYTHING TODAY?

11:21:43 WOULD YOU LIKE TO SUBMIT THAT HERE TO THE RECORD FOR

11:21:44 MR. SHELBY.

11:21:45 >> YEAH, IF I MAY.

11:21:46 I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF IT.

11:21:49 IF I CAN TAKE A QUICK FEW PICTURES OF IT AND I WILL

11:21:51 GIVE IT TO MR. SHELBY.

11:21:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU WANT TO SHOW -- DO YOU WANT TO

11:21:57 PASS IT UP -- AND DESCRIBE.

11:21:59 >> LET ME TAKE PICTURES.

11:22:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. WIGGINTON.

11:22:04 >>RON WINGGINTON: I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, AGAIN, AS I COMMUNICATED

11:22:08 BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MISDIRECT ANYONE THESE ARE

11:22:10 PULLED FROM THE INTERSECTION.

11:22:13 DOES NOT SPECIFY -- THERE ARE ONLY INCIDENTS.

11:22:15 WILL TAKE ANOTHER THREE WEEKS --

11:22:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. PRESSMAN, I AM SURE WE CAN GIVE

11:22:20 THIS BACK TO YOU OR MAKE COPIES OF IT.

11:22:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE CAN DO THAT.

11:22:24 THE QUESTION IS DO YOU WANT TO DISPLAY THOSE.

11:22:24 >> I WILL PASS THEM.

11:22:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WILL PASS THEM AROUND.

11:22:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. WIGGINTON, BEFORE WE GO TO

11:22:31 PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:22:34 >>RON WIGGINTON: RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

11:22:38 I WANTED TO MAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT THE

11:22:40 ORDINANCE IS GOING TO BE RESERVING A PERMANENT

11:22:42 TRANSPORTATION BOTH FOR PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR

11:22:43 TRAFFIC.

11:22:49 SO THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CLOSE THE VACATED ALLEYWAY.

11:22:51 SO IT WILL REMAIN OPEN.

11:22:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME?

11:22:58 >> RESERVING PERMANENT TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT FOR

11:23:01 VEHICULAR AND TRANSPORTATION SO THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO

11:23:05 CLOSE THE VACATED PORTION OF THE ALLEY WARE.

11:23:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOLID WASTE CAN COME THROUGH.

11:23:10 HOW ABOUT THE TOWN HOMES?

11:23:14 >> SAME WAY THEY WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT.

11:23:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REALLY A LEGAL THING TO TAKE OVER

11:23:19 THAT PARCEL OF LAND AND WILL NOT BE CLOSED UP.

11:23:21 THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE WILL NOT BE AFFECTED

11:23:24 OTHER THAN DRIVING -- ON THE PERSON'S EXTENDED

11:23:25 PROPERTY.

11:23:26 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

11:23:28 AS LONG AS WE MAINTAIN THE PERMANENT TRANSPORTATION

11:23:35 EASEMENT WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN THE ORDINANCE.

11:23:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:23:42 >>BILL CARLSON: CONSIDERING WHAT HE SAID WHY WOULD YOU

11:23:44 WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS.

11:23:47 >> I DISCUSSED WITH THE CLIENT.

11:23:48 HE WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD.

11:23:49 WE ARE LOOKING AT IT CLOSER.

11:23:52 HE DOES WANT TO MOVE FORWARD BUT LOOKING AT IT CLOSER

11:23:54 FOLLOWING TODAY'S HEARING.

11:23:55 >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW.

11:23:58 MY QUESTION WAS, CONSIDERING THAT THERE IS -- WHAT DID

11:23:59 YOU CALL IT.

11:24:02 A PERMANENT TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT, WHY WOULD -- WHY

11:24:06 WOULD YOUR CLIENT WANT TO DO THIS -- CLOSE THIS IN THE

11:24:07 FIRST PLACE?

11:24:10 WHAT BENEFIT IS IT TO YOUR CLIENT TO CLOSE IT IF IT IS

11:24:12 STILL GOING TO BE OPEN TO TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIANS.

11:24:13 >> I UNDERSTAND.

11:24:17 I BELIEVE HE FEELS IT PROVIDES HIM MORE CONTROL OF

11:24:20 ELEMENTS THAT ARE A PROBLEM ALONG THE ALLEYWAY, WHICH

11:24:24 IS TRASH AND CRIME ISSUES.

11:24:27 >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN THIS HAPPENS, DO YOU HAVE TO PAY

11:24:30 PROPERTY TAX ON IT TOO?

11:24:30 SO YOU HAVE --

11:24:33 >> THAT WOULD BE A RAMIFICATION, YES, SIR.

11:24:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN

11:24:36 IT TOO.

11:24:38 >> THAT WOULD BE A RAMIFICATION, YES, SIR.

11:24:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

11:24:40 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:24:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST -- ALONG MR. CARLSON'S --

11:24:47 AND I BELIEVE YOU ARE ONE OF THE FINEST PRESENTERS AND

11:24:48 YOU TELL IT DIRECT.

11:24:51 YOU DON'T HOLD ANYTHING OUT OR ANYTHING ELSE, BUT I

11:24:55 DIDN'T REALIZE THAT AT THE FIRST READING THE AMOUNT OF

11:24:58 INDIVIDUALS THAT WE WERE DISTURBING.

11:24:59 QUITE A FEW.

11:25:01 I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE HERE TODAY OR NOT.

11:25:04 AND THEN -- WHAT WAS JUST MENTIONED, WE ARE CLOSING A

11:25:09 PIECE OF PROPERTY NO MATTER WHERE IT IS AT AND LEAVING

11:25:12 IT OPEN JUST LIKE IT WAS BEFORE IT WAS CLOSED.

11:25:13 RIGHT?

11:25:16 >> THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, SIR, YES.

11:25:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I GET CONFUSE $ON LITTLE THINGS.

11:25:20 I AM REALLY CONFUSED ON THIS ONE.

11:25:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM ASKING WHAT IS THE POINT.

11:25:25 WHY GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT?

11:25:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO REFLECTION ON YOU, YOUR CLIENT

11:25:30 OR ANYONE ELSE, IF THIS GOES ON AND CLOSED, WHO CAN SAY

11:25:34 THAT LATER ON YOU CAN'T -- ANOTHER COUNCIL AND SAY WHY

11:25:39 DID THEY CLOSE THIS WHEN THEY PAID FOR IT AND CLOSE IT

11:25:40 AGAIN.

11:25:43 SO I JUST -- I AM NOT SPEAKING IN ANY WAY DEROGATORY

11:25:47 BUT OR YOUR CLIENT, BUT I JUST THINK THIS IS A WASTE OF

11:25:51 TIME OF YOUR CLIENT'S BEHALF TO SPEND THIS KIND OF

11:25:54 MONEY TO LEAVE IT THE SAME WAY IT IS.

11:25:56 THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO YOUR CLIENT BY CLOSING IT IF HE

11:25:58 IS GOING TO LEAVE IT OPEN.

11:26:00 LIKE SAYING I WANT TO GET MARRIED BUT I AM NOT GOING TO

11:26:01 MARRY YOU.

11:26:05 I MEAN, I AM JUST MAKING THAT UP REAL QUICK, BUT I

11:26:06 DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

11:26:09 OR I AM IN LOVE WITH YOU BUT I AM GOING TO MARRY

11:26:10 SOMEBODY ELSE.

11:26:14 >> YOU ARE SPEAKING VERY SWEETLY TO ME, COUNCILMAN.

11:26:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT TRYING TO HUMOR ANYBODY,

11:26:20 BUT TRY TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE.

11:26:21 >> THIS WAS DIRECTION I WAS GIVEN.

11:26:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LIKE I SAID, I THINK YOU ARE ONE OF

11:26:27 THE FINEST ONES THAT DOES YOUR PRESENTATION AND YOU ARE

11:26:28 RIGHT WITH IT.

11:26:30 I UNDERSTAND OFF CLIENT ADVISING YOU HOW THEY WANT IT

11:26:32 DONE, BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING.

11:26:33 THANK YOU.

11:26:36 >> I WILL TAKE THIS FEEDBACK BACK TO HIM.

11:26:39 MAKE SURE HE UNDER STANDS.

11:26:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

11:26:44 >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

11:26:47 THIS WILL CHANGE THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF THIS PARCEL

11:26:48 AS WELL THEN.

11:26:53 ANY TIME OF LOITERING OR TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS OR ANYTHING,

11:26:56 THE CITY WILL NO LONGER BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

11:26:59 >> WELL, DEFINITELY AFFECT THE FEE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP OF

11:27:00 THE ALLEYWAY.

11:27:03 REMAIN IN THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNER.

11:27:07 IF THIS WAS TO BE VACATED TO THE CENTER LINE AND EACH

11:27:10 WILL GO TO THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT ACCIDENTS

11:27:13 OR ANY KIND OF TRANSPORTATION CONSIDERATIONS, THEN IT

11:27:16 WILL STILL, IN ESSENCE, A TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT.

11:27:19 SO BEING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, THERE IS SOME EXPOSURE TO

11:27:22 THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

11:27:23 >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.

11:27:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:27:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY NEXT QUESTION.

11:27:29 WHO IS THE LIABILITY FALL ON?

11:27:32 >> GENERALLY SPEAKING A COMBINATION OF -- I MEAN -- IT

11:27:36 WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT WHAT A COURT OF LAW WILL

11:27:41 HOLD, BUT I WOULD SAY EVERYBODY WOULD BE INVOLVED IN

11:27:44 THE LITIGATION INCLUDING THE CITY AND PROPERTY OWNERS.

11:27:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS A LAWYER'S DREAM COME TRUE.

11:27:48 [LAUGHTER]

11:27:55 >> IF IT IS APPROPRIATE, IF I MAY, MR. SHELBY ADVISED

11:27:59 ME I SHOULD BE GOING OVER THE CRITERIA FOR YOU TO

11:28:02 CONSIDER IF YOU MAKE THE DECISION TO APPROVE OR

11:28:02 DISAPPROVE.

11:28:06 SOME OF THE FACTORS IS TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE VACATE

11:28:09 ALSO ALLEVIATE THE PUBLIC COST TO MAINTAIN THE

11:28:09 RIGHT-OF-WAY.

11:28:13 ALLEVIATE A PUBLIC NUISANCE DUMPING AND CURTAIL

11:28:14 CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

11:28:16 WHETHER IT WILL FOSTER REDEVELOPMENT OF THE ABUTTING

11:28:18 PROPERTIES.

11:28:21 AND WHETHER THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNER'S PROCESS WILL

11:28:27 BE TOTALLY AND SUBSTANTIALLY DIMINISHED.

11:28:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. PRESSMAN.

11:28:32 THANK YOU FOR INFORMATION FROM THE TPD REPORTS.

11:28:35 I WAS HOPING TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON -- AS YOU WERE

11:28:38 SAYING THE CRIME, THE DUMPING AND CRASH.

11:28:42 THAT IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR AND HOW I WAS GOING TO

11:28:43 BASE MY OPINION.

11:28:44 DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THOSE RECORDS?

11:28:45 I DON'T.

11:28:49 THE ONLY PUBLIC RECORD THAT I HAVE IS THE

11:28:52 TRANSPORTATION RECORDS SUBMITTED.

11:28:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THOSE PHOTOS AND THE ALLEY IS VERY

11:28:58 WELL CLEANED AND WELL MAINTAINED.

11:29:00 DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFICS OF THE DUMPING.

11:29:04 >> I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THE FEEDBACK FROM MY CLIENT, THE

11:29:06 PROPERTY OWNER, ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

11:29:10 THAT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM.

11:29:12 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:29:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:29:18 FEW PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.

11:29:20 APPROACH THE LECTERN AND SAY YOUR NAME.

11:29:23 I KNOW YOU ARE SWORN IN, EVERYBODY STOOD UP AND RAISED

11:29:24 YOUR RIGHT HAND.

11:29:26 EVERYBODY HAS THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

11:29:27 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

11:29:31 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS.

11:29:33 ERIC SHERIDAN.

11:29:35 PROPERTY OWNER AT THE MOODY BLUE TOWN HOMES.

11:29:39 I OWN THE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER NEXT TO THE ALLEYWAY.

11:29:43 A GENERAL ENGINEER AND LICENSED GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND

11:29:48 WORK PRESIDENT CONCRETE INDUSTRY AND I AM FAMILIAR WITH

11:29:54 TRANSPORTING LARGE TRANSPORTATION VEHICLES.

11:29:56 HOW I DO DISPLAY THIS ON THE SCREEN?

11:29:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IT IS.

11:29:58 GO AHEAD.

11:29:59 >> YOU SEE IT.

11:30:03 SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS OUR TOWN HOUSE COMMUNITY.

11:30:05 IN IS THE CAR WASH.

11:30:10 THIS IS THE AREA AND SUBJECT THAT WANTS TO BE VACANT.

11:30:13 UP UNTIL TODAY, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT -- ABOUT THE

11:30:17 ORDINANCE OF STILL BEING ABLE TO USE THE ALLEYWAY.

11:30:21 UP UNTIL NOW, WE ASSUMED WE WEREN'T GOING TO STILL HAVE

11:30:22 ACCESS.

11:30:25 BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT HOWARD IS A ONE-WAY ROAD.

11:30:27 CLEVELAND IS A ONE-WAY ROAD.

11:30:31 OUR SURROUNDING ALLEYWAY AROUND OUR COMMUNITY IS

11:30:35 TWO-WAY TRAFFIC.

11:30:38 THIS ALLEY IS TWO-WAY TRAFFIC.

11:30:43 MOODY AVENUE IS TWO-WAY TRAFFIC WITH TANDEM PARKING.

11:30:47 THE VEHICLES -- THESE ARE APPROXIMATE.

11:30:51 THIS ALLEYWAY IS ONLY APPROXIMATELY 8.3 WIDE.

11:30:54 IN ALLEY IS ONLY EIGHT FOOT WIDE.

11:30:59 THIS ALLEY FOR TWO-WAY TRAFFIC IS 16 -- 15 FEET WIDE.

11:31:01 THERE WAS AN ILLUSTRATION THAT WAS PULLED, I BELIEVE,

11:31:05 BY THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE THAT SHOWED WASTE

11:31:07 MANAGEMENT.

11:31:09 HIS ILLUSTRATION WAS INCORRECT.

11:31:12 WASTE MANAGEMENT ACTUALLY TURNS RIGHT AND GOES DOWN TO

11:31:13 HOWARD.

11:31:17 THEY DON'T COME IN OFF OF HOW WAR AND TURN ONTO THE

11:31:17 VALLEY.

11:31:20 AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS ILLUSTRATION, THEY ARE MAKING

11:31:22 A RIGHT TURN AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY HAVING TROUBLE

11:31:28 MAKING THE TURN AND ENCROACHING ON THE PARKING LOT.

11:31:33 LOOKING AT THESE VIRTUALS, IN THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING

11:31:35 TOWARD MOODY AVENUE.

11:31:37 EIGHT-FOOT ROADWAY.

11:31:40 IN DARK AND SCARY AVENUE THAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH BIG

11:31:43 BLOCK WALLS WAS ONLY INSTALLED RECENTLY BECAUSE I HAD

11:31:47 TO CALL THE CITY OF THE NOISE THIS CAR WASH WAS MAKING

11:31:51 AND THEY HAD TO LOWER THE DECIBELS AND THEY MADE THE

11:31:52 WALL TALLER.

11:31:55 HERE IS THE ILLUSTRATION OF THE ALLEYWAY GOING TO

11:31:57 HOWARD.

11:31:59 IT IS ABOUT 8 FOOT 3.

11:32:02 I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE SAYING WE WILL HAVE ACCESS

11:32:07 LONG-TERM.

11:32:10 THEY VACATE THIS, WE WILL HAVE ACCESS BUT WHAT HAPPENS

11:32:13 DOWN THE ROAD IF THEY DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT

11:32:14 AS YOU GUYS ARE DISCUSSING.

11:32:17 A CAR PARKED DOWN HERE AND A CAR COMING DOWN THIS WAY

11:32:19 AND WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS.

11:32:24 BACK UP AN ALLEY THAT IS 200 FEET LONG?

11:32:25 EVERYBODY USES THIS ROAD.

11:32:31 THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE ARE DRIVING AROUND THE CITY,

11:32:33 WASTE MANAGEMENT, AMAZON.

11:32:37 I DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS A BENEFIT FROM ANYBODY.

11:32:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

11:32:43 >> CONGRATULATIONS, WELCOME TO THE BOARD.

11:32:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.

11:32:45 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

11:32:47 YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

11:32:48 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS.

11:32:54 BRANDY SAKAFOUS, I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO ERIC AND THE

11:32:57 BUILDING THAT DIRECTLY ABUTS THE ALLEY, ONE STANDPOINT

11:32:58 OVER.

11:33:01 TO ADDRESS THE TWO MAIN ISSUES OF CRIME AND TRASH.

11:33:05 I CAN TELL YOU LIVING DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE CAR WASH AND

11:33:08 THE PARKING LOT, THE MAJORITY OF THE TRASH COMES FROM

11:33:11 -- PIECES OF TRASH FLOWING OVER THE CAR WASH WALL.

11:33:15 THIS WEEK ON MONDAY PICKED UP A PIECE OF TRASH OUT OF

11:33:20 MY FRONT YARD AND PRESTIGE CAR WASH RECEIPT.

11:33:22 THE BIGGEST PIECE OF TRASH.

11:33:24 I TRIED TO PUT THIS DOWN HERE.

11:33:28 A BIG LARGE PIECE OF TRASH IN THE PARKING LOT.

11:33:29 A SIGN FROM THE CAR WASH.

11:33:34 AND CAR WASH AND OIL CHANGE, $18.99.

11:33:37 SIX-FOOT, EIGHT-FOOT SIGN THAT FELL DOWN AT THE CAR

11:33:40 WASH EVENTUALLY MADE ITS WAY TO THE PARKING LOT.

11:33:42 NO MAJOR SOURCE OF TRASH IN THE ALLEY.

11:33:45 A LOT OF TRASH IN THE PARKING LOT.

11:33:49 A LOT OF LOITERING IN THE PARKING LOT 12 A.M. SUNDAY, I

11:33:52 CALLED THE NONEMERGENCY TAMPA POLICE LINE BECAUSE

11:33:57 PEOPLE TAILGATING IN THE PARKING LOT BLARING MUSIC,

11:33:58 DRINKING AND SMOKING.

11:34:01 THAT IS AN OCCURRENCE EVERY MONTH OR TWO.

11:34:04 THE ALLEY ISN'T A SOURCE IN MY OPINION TRAFFIC, CRIME

11:34:05 AND TRASH.

11:34:08 IT IS THE DARK PARKING LOT -- THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN

11:34:10 INSTALL LIGHTS.

11:34:13 YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHERE PEOPLE ARE CONGREGATING.

11:34:14 NO THE ALLEY.

11:34:15 AS ERIC POINTED OUT.

11:34:17 I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH IT.

11:34:19 HE HAS GOOD ILLUSTRATIONS.

11:34:23 THE ALLEY TURNING TO HOWARD WITH A REQUEST TO VACATE IS

11:34:25 A LITTLE BIT WIDER.

11:34:28 I WILL SHOW THE PROPORTION THAT IS PROPOSED TO REMAIN

11:34:29 OPEN.

11:34:30 THERE IS A TREE.

11:34:32 THERE IS AN UTILITY POLE.

11:34:34 THERE IS ANOTHER TREE MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT TO MAKE

11:34:40 THAT LEFT-HAND TURN AND A LOT MORE NARROW THEN THE MORE

11:34:44 OPEN OPTION MAKING A RIGHT TO HOWARD WHICH IS WHY

11:34:48 LIKELY WASTE MANAGEMENT, MOST DELIVERY VEHICLES, YOU

11:34:53 KNOW, THE OTHER PIECE FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, AGAIN,

11:34:57 THERE IS A TOTAL OF 16 PROPERTIES, EIGHT FRONTING THE

11:35:00 ALLEY THAT RUNS PERPENDICULAR TO THE VACATED ALLEY.

11:35:03 I LIVED THERE SINCE NOVEMBER 17, FOUR AND A HALF YEARS

11:35:08 I CAN'T REMEMBER THE SINGLE TIME IN -- IN THE FOUR

11:35:13 YEARS JUST ON A SINGLE HAND THAT I WOULD GO TO MOODY

11:35:14 AND MAKE A LEFT ON KENNEDY.

11:35:16 THAT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC SEEMS DANGEROUS.

11:35:18 I GO ON TO HOWARD TO MAKE A LEFT.

11:35:23 SAME THING TO ACCESS TO I-275 ANYTHING TO GET TO

11:35:25 MIDTOWN AND DALE MABRY.

11:35:31 GO TO HOWARD AND USE A TRAFFIC LIGHT FOR A

11:35:33 THOROUGHFARE.

11:35:35 I UNDERSTAND WE WILL USE IT FOR TRANSPORTATION

11:35:37 PURPOSES, BUT MY HISTORY WITH THE CAR WASH.

11:35:39 THE OWNER, THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

11:35:40 THEY HAVEN'T BEEN GREAT NEIGHBORS.

11:35:43 NO PLAN -- CHANGE OF USE BUT IF THEY EVER PLAN TO GO

11:35:45 JOIN THE PROPERTIES AND DO ANYTHING.

11:35:48 THEY HAVEN'T BEEN GREAT OF MAINTAINING THEIR PROPERTY.

11:35:50 I DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL MAINTAIN THE

11:35:52 ALLEY.

11:35:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:35:55 >> THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

11:35:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER, STATE YOUR NAME.

11:36:03 >> MICHAEL PAHANIC, ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER AND VICE

11:36:06 PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

11:36:09 I ECHO WHAT THE OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE SAID BUT WOULD LIKE

11:36:12 TO SHOW THE PICTURES SHOWING THE TYPE OF NEIGHBOR WE

11:36:13 ARE DEALING WITH.

11:36:16 AND PEOPLE WHO ARE CLAIMING TRASH AND CRIME.

11:36:19 THIS IS JUST A DAILY EXAMPLE OF THE BUSINESS, THE LOT

11:36:23 THAT THEY HAVE THAT IS ADJACENT TO MY PROPERTY.

11:36:27 I LIVE ACROSS THE ALLEY ON THE FRONT SIDE.

11:36:28 THE MOODY SIDE.

11:36:31 THAT IS JUST THE OVERHEAD OF THE EYESORE OF EVERYTHING

11:36:32 IS.

11:36:33 THE DUMPSTER.

11:36:35 THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE DUMPSTER.

11:36:38 THE TRASH IS PART OF THAT PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY THROW

11:36:40 EVERYTHING IN THAT DUMPSTER.

11:36:41 NOTHING IN BAGS.

11:36:43 NO CARE FOR IT.

11:36:46 EVERYTHING JUST BLOWS AROUND.

11:36:51 THIS IS THE AFOREMENTIONED CAR WASH WHICH -- WHERE IT

11:36:53 WAS ORIGINALLY WHICH IS A HALF A BLOCK AWAY IN THE

11:36:54 FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY.

11:36:57 JUST THE TYPE OF CARE THEY TAKE CARE -- OR HOW THEY

11:36:59 TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY.

11:37:02 COUPLE MORE VISUALS HERE TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE ARE

11:37:03 LOOKING AT.

11:37:09 THE PEOPLE WHO WORRY ABOUT HOW THINGS APPEAR.

11:37:13 THE OTHER THING THAT -- I LIVE ON THE FRONT SIDE, THE

11:37:16 MOODY AVENUE SIDE, AND IT IS ALREADY -- A SMALL BLOCK.

11:37:19 TRYING TO DIVERT MORE TRAFFIC THERE.

11:37:21 IT IS JUST GOING TO BE MORE DANGEROUS.

11:37:25 AS BRANDY SAID, TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT ON KENNEDY OFF OF

11:37:27 MOODY IS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

11:37:30 AND EVEN MAKING A RIGHT DURING RUSH SHOWER TO GET TO

11:37:34 HOWARD WHICH LEADS TO 270, -- 265, ANOTHER DIFFICULT

11:37:35 TASK.

11:37:38 LIMITS OUR ACCESS TO GO NORTH AND WEST.

11:37:41 AND IN ADDITION -- IF WE GO SOUTH, WE RUN INTO

11:37:45 CLEVELAND WHICH IS A ONE WAY WHICH RUNS INTO MACDILL

11:37:50 WHICH IS ANOTHER ONE WAY -- ARMENIA WHICH IS A ONE WAY.

11:37:52 WE ARE LIMITED WHERE WE CAN GO WITH THE GROWING

11:37:54 POPULATION AROUND THE AREA.

11:37:57 WE NEED MORE ACCESS TO THE ROAD, NOT CUTTING OFF ONE OF

11:37:59 OUR FEW WAYS TO GET THERE.

11:38:00 THANK YOU.

11:38:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:38:03 ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS?

11:38:06 ONE REGISTERED, A SHELBIE ELLIOTT.

11:38:13 IS SHELBIE ELLIOTT --

11:38:15 >> HELLO, YES, THIS IS SHELBY.

11:38:17 CAN YOU HEAR ME.

11:38:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, BUT WE NEED FOR YOU TO TURN

11:38:22 ON YOUR CAMERA AND WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN.

11:38:25 ARE YOU ABLE TO TURN ON YOUR CAMERA?

11:38:26 >> LET'S SEE.

11:38:28 I THINK THAT I AM SHARING.

11:38:29 YES.

11:38:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE YOU ARE.

11:38:35 RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.

11:38:36 [SWEARING IN]

11:38:37 >> I DO.

11:38:39 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.

11:38:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

11:38:41 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

11:38:46 >> I AM A PROPERTY OWNER AT THE MOODY BLUES TOWN HOMES

11:38:49 JUST ADJACENT -- THE BUILDING ADJACENT TO THE NEIGHBORS

11:38:51 THAT JUST SPOKE.

11:38:58 AND I AM JUST COMMENTING AND OPPOSED TO THE -- TO THE

11:38:59 -- THE REQUEST.

11:39:03 I AM SO -- REALLY JUST ECHOING WHAT MY OTHER NEIGHBORS

11:39:07 HAVE MENTIONED.

11:39:11 THERE IS A SAFETY ISSUE IF THERE IS MORE TRAFFIC

11:39:13 DIRECTED ON TO MOODY ON THAT -- FROM THE ALLEY

11:39:14 CURRENTLY.

11:39:18 WE ALREADY HAVE ISSUES WITH SPEEDING CARS COMING FROM

11:39:21 KENNEDY DOWN TO CLEVELAND, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A VERY

11:39:24 NARROW STREET AS ERIC MENTIONED.

11:39:26 THAT TANDEM PARKING.

11:39:28 IF YOU HAVE A TRUCK COMING DOWN THIS STREET, USUALLY

11:39:34 ONE VEHICLE HAS TO STOP AND ALLOW ANOTHER VEHICLE TO

11:39:35 PASS DOWN THE STREET.

11:39:39 ALSO, I THINK ERIC WAS MENTIONING IF THERE ARE VEHICLES

11:39:45 THAT ARE TRAVELING NORTH FROM CLEVELAND IN THE ALLEY

11:39:49 WAY THAT -- I THINK IT IS PERPENDICULAR TO THE -- TO

11:39:54 THE -- SECTION THAT IS THE REQUEST IS BEING MADE TO

11:40:01 VACATE IF THEY ARE GOING TO BACK UP, IF I CAN'T USE

11:40:05 THAT SECTION, THEY MAY NOT BACK IT UP ALL THE WAY FROM

11:40:11 THE ALLEY, ON TO THE -- THE DRIVEWAYS OF THOSE TOWN

11:40:17 HOMES THAT BACK UP TO THE ALLEY WHICH WE ARE IN THE

11:40:19 PROCESS OF REPAVING THAT.

11:40:23 SO I CAN POTENTIALLY SEE DAMAGE FROM ALL OF THE -- THE

11:40:25 VEHICLES.

11:40:30 SO WE ARE PLACING IN THAT AREA.

11:40:34 I -- I CAN SEE IT POTENTIALLY AFFECTING OUR PROPERTY

11:40:40 VALUES DEPENDING ON WHAT THE CAR WASH DOES WITH THAT --

11:40:42 WITH THAT PARKING LOT.

11:40:43 WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE PLANS ARE.

11:40:46 AS EVERYONE MENTIONED THEY HAVEN'T BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS.

11:40:52 I HAVE CONSTANTLY -- YOU KNOW, ON A WEEKLY BASIS, THERE

11:40:56 ARE TRASH RECEIPTS FROM THE CAR WASH EVEN ON THE FRONT.

11:40:59 ON THE MOODY AVENUE PROPERTIES.

11:41:05 AND AS BRANDY MENTIONED THE TRASH I HAVE THAT SEEN AND

11:41:07 THE PARKING LOT.

11:41:09 I NEVER HAD ISSUES GOING DOWN THAT ALLEY IF I WANTED TO

11:41:14 GO ACROSS THE STREET TO -- TO THE GAS STATION OR, YOU

11:41:15 KNOW, UTILIZE HOWARD.

11:41:17 I NEVER FELT IN DANGER.

11:41:20 I NEVER SEEN ANY TYPE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OCCURRING

11:41:22 THERE.

11:41:25 YOU KNOW THE EYESORE COMES FROM THE CAR WASH AND FROM

11:41:27 THAT PARKING LOT.

11:41:30 SO I THINK THAT IS -- THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO MY

11:41:34 COMMENTS.

11:41:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:41:39 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:41:41 YES, MR. SHELBY.

11:41:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK WE HAVE SOME EX-PARTE

11:41:45 COMMUNICATIONS BEFORE WE HEAD INTO THE REBUTTAL.

11:41:47 >>LUIS VIERA: IF MAY, MR. CHAIR.

11:41:50 I AM HAVING MY AIDE PRINT THIS OUT.

11:41:54 I LITERALLY RIGHT NOW GOT A TEXT, WHICH I AM SENDING TO

11:41:57 MY AIDE FROM NICHOLAS STUCCO WITH TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS

11:41:58 THAT READS AS FOLLOWS.

11:42:01 AND I AM GOING TO PRINT OUT COPY FOR ALL INTERESTED

11:42:02 PARTIES.

11:42:06 THAT IS WHY I STEPPED OUTSIDE OF THE ROOM.

11:42:07 MAY I READ IT.

11:42:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE, THAT IS THE SUM AND

11:42:09 SUBSTANCE.

11:42:11 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING ADVERSE.

11:42:14 GOOD MORNING, COMMA, ANY TIME ALLEYS WANT TO BE VACATED

11:42:17 FIRE MARSHAL SHOULD BE AWARE FOR APPROVAL AND DENIAL

11:42:20 BASED ON FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS BECAUSE ELIMINATING

11:42:23 RIGHT-OF-WAY AND LADDER ACCESS.

11:42:32 WE ELIMINATE RE, WE LIMB -- RIGHT-OF-WAY, WE LIMIT.

11:42:36 I DISCLOSE IT BECAUSE A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER.

11:42:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CITRO.

11:42:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: RECEIVED THE SAME TEXT MESSAGES FROM

11:42:41 THE SAME PERSON.

11:42:45 I IMMEDIATELY DID A SCREEN SHOT AND SENT IT OFF TO MY

11:42:48 AIDE TO LEGAL.

11:42:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: GO TO THE CLERK.

11:42:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: TO THE CLERK OF THE COURT, WHICHEVER

11:42:52 YOU WANT TO ADVICE.

11:42:54 I WANT TO DISCLOSE THAT.

11:42:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND NOW.

11:42:56 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.

11:42:59 IF I MAY, AGAIN, THE INDIVIDUAL WHO SENT IT I AM SURE

11:43:03 HAD NO ILL-WILL OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE BUT THE

11:43:07 PUBLIC, A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER AND WE MAY NOT HAVE

11:43:09 DISCUSSIONS WITH ANYONE OUTSIDE OF THAT WHICH IS MADE

11:43:13 PUBLIC ON THIS SPECIFIC MATTER WHICH IS WHY COUNCILMAN

11:43:16 CITRO AND I IMMEDIATELY DISCLOSED THIS WHEN I HAPPENED

11:43:16 TO SEE IT.

11:43:20 AND THERE IS MY WONDERFUL AID WITH THE DOCUMENT AND I

11:43:24 WILL GIVE TO ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE IT INCLUDING MR.

11:43:24 PRESSMAN.

11:43:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAD THE SAME MESSAGE.

11:43:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SAME MESSAGE.

11:43:34 TIM, IF YOU PRINT THAT OUT FOR ME SO I CAN HAND IT --

11:43:35 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

11:43:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:43:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:43:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN JUST TELL YOU I WILL NEVER

11:43:46 GET A TEXT BECAUSE I DON'T BRING MY PHONE TO THE DAIS.

11:43:48 I AM JUST TELLING YOU, WHATEVER.

11:43:53 AND THAT WAY YOU TAKE ALL THE -- OUT OF ACTION.

11:43:54 NO REFLECTION ON NO ONE.

11:43:56 I AM NOT SAYING ANYTHING.

11:43:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S EASY.

11:44:00 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I RECEIVE TEXT OR E-MAIL, I AM NOT

11:44:02 AWARE OF IT.

11:44:07 BUT IF I DID, I WILL TURN IN WHEN WE GET OUT.

11:44:07 THANK YOU.

11:44:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO CAP

11:44:16 IT OFF BY SAYING TO THE PUBLIC -- PLEASE AS STATED BY

11:44:18 THE COUNCIL, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE

11:44:23 CITY COUNCIL BY ELECTRONIC MEANS DURING -- DURING A

11:44:25 MEETING.

11:44:27 THE MEETING IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE IN THE SUNSHINE.

11:44:31 THANK YOU.

11:44:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:44:33 THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:44:37 MR. PRESSMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW-UP OR ANY

11:44:39 QUESTIONS FOR MR. PRESSMAN?

11:44:41 >> I WILL TAKE THE COMMENTS, PARTICULARLY THE FIRE

11:44:45 DEPARTMENT TO MY CLIENT, WE WILL DISCUSS IT AND I WILL

11:44:49 MAKE THE STAFF AND COUNSEL AWARE.

11:44:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:44:53 A MOTION TO CLOSE IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS?

11:44:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO MOVED.

11:44:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:44:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND.

11:45:07 ITEM NUMBER 59, WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

11:45:09 WHERE DID WE LEAVE OFF.

11:45:12 DOES ANYBODY WISH TO TAKE A STAB OF IT.

11:45:16 >>CLERK: MIRANDA WAS LAST.

11:45:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA?

11:45:19 >>LUIS VIERA: NO, SIR.

11:45:23 FOR THE RECORD, I HAD -- JUST FOR THE RECORD GIVEN THAT

11:45:26 TEXT, I HAD NO COMMUNICATION WITH ANYONE ON THAT MATTER

11:45:29 OUTSIDE OF THAT WHICH HAS BEEN DISCLOSED JUST FOR THE

11:45:29 RECORD AGAIN.

11:45:34 I AM NOT JUST A ELECTED OFFICIAL BUT ALSO A MEMBER OF

11:45:34 THE FLORIDA BAR.

11:45:36 THANK YOU.

11:45:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL READ IT.

11:45:43 AGAIN, I CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN.

11:45:46 I HAVE NO COMMUNICATION OUTSIDE OF IT BUT THE BASIS WHY

11:45:49 I AM GOING TO DENY IT AS EVERYONE ON THIS COUNCIL HAS

11:45:53 HEARD THAT IN MY OPINION, THE OBSTRUCTION -- EXCUSE ME

11:45:57 THE THINGS THAT WERE BEING SAID OF JUNK, TRASH, DEBRIS,

11:45:59 AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

11:46:01 I DIDN'T SEE ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT EITHER WITH THE

11:46:05 POLICE REPORT, CODE ENFORCEMENT REPORTS, AND I DO NOT

11:46:07 FEEL IT IS NECESSARY TO CLOSE IT RIGHT-OF-WAY.

11:46:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:46:11 I WILL READ IT.

11:46:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU READ IT.

11:46:16 GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:46:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

11:46:20 YOU ARE LOOKING FOR -- YOU ARE LOOKING -- YOU ARE GOING

11:46:22 TO READ THE ORDINANCE?

11:46:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL READ IT BUT IF IT DOESN'T GET

11:46:26 A SECOND.

11:46:31 VAC-22-01.

11:46:33 ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION,

11:46:37 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,

11:46:40 CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING A RIGHT-OF-WAY,

11:46:43 ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD, NORTH OF

11:46:46 CLEVELAND STREET, EAST OF MOODY AVENUE AND WEST OF

11:46:51 HOWARD AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF OSCAWANA A SUBDIVISION

11:46:54 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS

11:46:58 FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN

11:47:00 COVENANTS CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE

11:47:02 PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HERE IN.

11:47:05 PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS

11:47:09 PROVIDE FOR DEFINITIONS AND EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:47:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND?

11:47:11 IS THERE A SECOND?

11:47:12 YES, SIR.

11:47:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A REMINDER THAT THE MAKER OF THE

11:47:19 MOTION WOULD BE -- WOULD HAVE TO VOTE AFFIRMATIVE.

11:47:20 ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT, SIR?

11:47:21 I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

11:47:23 I WANT TO MAKE SURE --

11:47:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS READING THE ORDINANCE TO SEE IF

11:47:26 IT GETS A SECOND.

11:47:31 IF IT DOESN'T GET A SECOND, IT DIES.

11:47:33 MANISCALCO NOONTIME SECTION.

11:47:34 THE MOTION IS DEAD.

11:47:35 DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.

11:47:38 DO WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION?

11:47:41 THIS WOULD BE A MOTION FOR DENIAL.

11:47:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T WANT TO BE

11:47:46 HERE UNTIL 8:00 AT NIGHT JUST LOOKING AT EACH OTHER, SO

11:47:50 I THINK THE COUNCIL FROM WHAT I SEE -- MR. GUDES SAID

11:47:53 IT -- NOT THAT HE WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR IT.

11:47:55 ONCE HE MADE THE MOTION HE HAS TO VOTE FOR IT.

11:47:56 THAT IS THE LAW.

11:47:58 YOU CAN SECOND THE MOTION AND -- BUT IF YOU MAKE THE

11:48:00 MOTION YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

11:48:06 JUST IN THE TIME OF SAFETY, I MOVE TO DENY ITEM 59,

11:48:11 VAC-22-01 BASED ON THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED FROM THE

11:48:14 -- FROM THE DEPARTMENTS OF -- NO EVIDENCE THAT SAYS

11:48:18 THAT THE TRASH WAS GENERATED IN OTHER WAYS TO ANY

11:48:21 PREPONDERANCE THAT WE SAW DURING THE HEARING AND THAT

11:48:25 THE BENEFIT OF CLOSING THE ALLEY AND REMAINING OPEN AT

11:48:28 THE SAME TIME UNDER WHATEVER CONDITIONS WERE PROPOSED

11:48:35 IS NOT APPLICABLE OTHER THAN SOMEONE USING IT.

11:48:46 AND USE FOR GARBAGE, SANITATION PICK-UP, FOR EMERGENCY

11:48:49 CALLS AND OTHER THINGS ARE NEEDED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD,

11:48:51 AND, THEREFORE, I JUST DON'T FEEL IT IS THE RIGHT THING

11:48:56 TO DO TO MOVE THIS ALLEY AND MAKE IT PERSONAL TO DENY

11:48:59 THE RIGHTS OF THE USE OF THE OTHERS.

11:49:00 THIS ALLEY IS USED.

11:49:02 IT IS NOT AN ALLEY THAT IS DORMANT.

11:49:04 THIS ALLEY FROM THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED AT THE

11:49:09 PUBLIC HEARING IS PREDOMINANTLY USED BY ALL.

11:49:14 AND IT IS NEEDED TO MOVE IN CASE OF FIRE, IN CASE OF --

11:49:17 EVEN IF POLICE WORK, THAT THEY HAVE TO USE THE ALLEY

11:49:18 AND IT IS AVAILABLE.

11:49:20 I MOVE TO DENIAL BASED ON THAT.

11:49:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

11:49:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM A COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:49:24 SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:49:25 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:49:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:49:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:49:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:49:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:49:31 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:49:32 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:49:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:49:36 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:49:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:49:45 NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 60.

11:49:48 WE HAVE AN E-MAIL FROM TIM JOHNSON REQUESTING TO BE

11:49:52 CONTINUED -- FOR THIS ITEM TO BE TENDS UNTIL APRIL 21.

11:49:56 ANYBODY HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE CONTINUANCE,

11:49:57 JUST THE CONTINUANCE?

11:49:58 SEEING NONE.

11:50:01 AND I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED, DO I HAVE A MOTION

11:50:07 TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL APRIL 21.

11:50:08 10 :30.

11:50:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TIME SO IT IS CLEAR.

11:50:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 10:30.

11:50:13 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:50:15 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:50:16 ALL IN FAVOR.

11:50:24 ALL RIGHT, NUMBER 61 A MOTION -- WAS THERE A MOTION FOR

11:50:25 --

11:50:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SOMEONE HERE ON 61.

11:50:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CONTINUE ON THIS OR

11:50:32 NO?

11:50:35 GO AHEAD, ROSS.

11:50:38 >> ROSS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

11:50:43 I WOULD LIKE THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN AGAIN,

11:50:49 PLEASE.

11:50:51 >>CLERK: ROSS, IT IS SHOWING THAT YOU ARE ALREADY A

11:50:53 PRESENTER.

11:51:00 >> OKAY.

11:51:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

11:51:03 >> CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN NOW?

11:51:05 >> GO AHEAD.

11:51:09 >> LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION PROVIDING VAC-22-08.

11:51:12 THE APPLICATION IS WEST TAMPA HOLDINGS LCC.

11:51:19 A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE UNAPPROVED

11:51:26 ALLEY SOUTH OF YUKON STREET, NORTH OF SUE WARD STREET,

11:51:28 EAST OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AVENUE AND WEST OF INTERSTATE

11:51:30 275.

11:51:31 CENTRAL AVENUE.

11:51:36 WITHIN THE PLAT OF IRVINTON HEIGHTS IN THE EAST TAMPA

11:51:37 ZONING DISTRICT.

11:51:40 APPLICANT OWNS A PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ALLEY

11:51:42 THAT IS REQUESTING TO BE VACATED.

11:51:44 THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS ONLY TO

11:51:46 VACATE THE ALLEY.

11:51:49 THIS ALLEY IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.

11:51:52 EXISTING CODE VIOLATIONS FOR THE PROPERTY AND FOR

11:51:55 ACCUMULATION OF OVERGROWTH.

11:52:00 21-03455.

11:52:04 THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO VACATE THE ALLEY 8607 NORTH

11:52:05 SEMINOLE AVENUE.

11:52:10 EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS 4100 SQUARE FEET.

11:52:13 UNAPPROVED FOR ACCESS AND NOT ALLOWING USE FOR ABUTTING

11:52:14 OWNERS.

11:52:16 A TREE BLOCKS THE ALLEY.

11:52:19 SEVERAL UTILITIES UTILIZE THE ALLEY AND REQUIRE

11:52:20 EASEMENT REGULATIONS.

11:52:23 ALLEY DOES NOT CONTINUE NORTH.

11:52:26 THE ALLEY ORIGINALLY CONTINUED TO THE SOUTH BUT THE

11:52:27 ALLEY HAS BEEN VACATED.

11:52:32 OWNERS 8608 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE HAVE SENT AN E-MAIL

11:52:36 REQUESTING ACCESS TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AND SAME

11:52:39 E-MAIL REGARDING CONCERN IS INCLUDED IN THE

11:52:42 PRESENTATION OF PHOTOS OF THE REAR OF THE PARCEL

11:52:43 SHOWING THEIR PARKING PAD.

11:52:49 THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS IN RED.

11:52:52 PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS IN YELLOW.

11:52:59 IT IS 275, CENTRAL AVENUE.

11:53:03 SEWARD.

11:53:12 AGAIN, THE ALLEYWAY IN PINK.

11:53:17 THIS IS THE ALLEYWAY WITHIN THE PLAT OF IRVINTON

11:53:18 HEIGHTS.

11:53:24 AGAIN, JUST SHOWING THE AREA WITHIN THE SECTION.

11:53:31 THIS IS THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING SOUTH OF YUKON STREET.

11:53:33 THE ALLEY IS NOT IMPROVED.

11:53:34 THAT IS THE ALLEY.

11:53:37 IN IS THE ALLEY LOOKING NORTH FROM SEWARD STREET.

11:53:43 IT APPEARS TO BE USING FOR MATERIALS FOR HOUSES

11:53:44 UNCONSTRUCTION.

11:53:51 THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PARCEL LOOKING SOUTH.

11:53:54 NORTH AND SOUTH LOOKING NORTH ON DR. MARTIN LUTHER

11:53:57 KING, JR. IS NOT TO BE VACATED.

11:54:01 THIS IS, AGAIN, THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING SOUTH AT THE

11:54:05 PORTION OF THE ALLEY LINED 8608 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE,

11:54:11 WHICH IS THE HOUSE HERE.

11:54:15 AND THIS IS LOCATED ON THE ALLEYWAY BEHIND 8608 NORTH

11:54:23 CENTRAL AVENUE AND SHOWING THE PARKING PAD.

11:54:26 CONDITIONS ARE, STAFF HAD NO OBJECTION TO VACATING

11:54:29 BASED ON RESPONSES FROM THE REVIEWING AGENCY.

11:54:31 IF THE VACATING REQUEST APPROVED BY COUNCIL, EASEMENT

11:54:36 RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR WATER, WASTEWATER, TECO,

11:54:37 FRONTIER AND SPECTRUM.

11:54:41 MUST PAY TERMINATION FEES TO TECO FOR STREETLIGHT AND

11:54:45 MUST MEET FEE TOTALS AT PERMITTING RELATED TO CHAPTER

11:54:49 27 WITH REGARD TO TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN.

11:54:52 AND THAT IS THE END OF MY SLIDE SHOW.

11:54:57 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM AVAILABLE FOR COMMENT.

11:54:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

11:54:59 NO?

11:55:02 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?

11:55:06 ARE YOU MR. QUINONES?

11:55:07 >> YES.

11:55:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME ON UP.

11:55:10 URN SWORN IN.

11:55:11 YOU RAISED YOUR RIGHT HAND.

11:55:14 SO YOU ARE GOOD.

11:55:17 GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:55:17 >> YES.

11:55:20 SO --

11:55:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME.

11:55:25 >> JUAN QUINONES, THE APPLICANT.

11:55:28 WE ARE WANTING TO -- FOR THE SAME REASON OVER AT ROME.

11:55:33 THE ALLEY WE WANT TO VACATE IT AND KEEP IT SIMPLE FOR

11:55:36 OUR PROPERTY AND OUR NEIGHBORS' PROPERTIES.

11:55:39 AND CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE AREA BASICALLY.

11:55:42 THE ALLEYS BEING VACATED THROUGHOUT -- IN THAT SAME

11:55:44 AREA.

11:55:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:55:48 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

11:55:50 ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

11:55:52 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK

11:55:53 ON THIS ITEM?

11:55:55 YES, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE

11:56:00 MINUTES EACH TO SPEAK.

11:56:03 >> GOOD MORNING.

11:56:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, PLEASE STATE YOUR

11:56:05 NAME.

11:56:09 >> ALFREDO GUADELUP, AND I AM BACKED UP TO THE

11:56:11 PROPERTY THAT WAS JUST DEVELOPED THERE.

11:56:18 AND MY PROBLEM IS, I WAS TRYING TO GET THAT ALLEY IN

11:56:22 THERE AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY CLEANING IT EVERY TIME

11:56:22 I CALLED.

11:56:26 AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

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11:57:13 AND HE WAS CHASING THEM AWAY SO THEY WERE COMING AND THEY

11:57:16 WERE KICKING THE FENCE DOWN.

11:57:19 SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ALLEY.

11:57:40 SO I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT.

11:57:43 AND THESE GENTLEMEN HERE ALSO IN THE SAME POSITION.

11:57:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

11:57:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE THE NEXT SPEAKER

11:57:53 COMES, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADVISE THE NEIGHBORS, THE

11:57:58 PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IN CASE THE ALLEY

11:58:01 IS CLOSED.

11:58:02 THERE WAS SOME FOUR OR FIVE ITEMS CAME UP.

11:58:06 ONE THAT CAUGHT MY EYE WAS TECO FOR CLOSING UP SOME LIGHT

11:58:10 THAT THEY HAVE OR SOMETHING.

11:58:11 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW WHAT THE COST IS.

11:58:14 I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER MEMBER KNOWS WHAT THAT IS.

11:58:19 IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE CITY, MAKING THE




11:58:23 PRESENTATION, AND IT WAS HERE, FOUR OR FIVE ITEMS, I DIDN'T

11:58:28 HAVE TIME TO MEMORIZE THEM ALL.

11:58:31 HERE IT IS.

11:58:32 TECO.

11:58:35 YOU HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FOR THE WATER, WASTEWATER LINE TO

11:58:39 BE CLEANED, AND THAT'S NATURE.

11:58:42 BUT THE ONE THAT CAUGHT MY EYE WAS TERMINATION FEE TO TECO

11:58:46 FOR STREETLIGHTS, WHATEVER THAT IS.

11:58:48 I DON'T KNOW.

11:58:49 THAT'S WHAT I AM ASKING THE CITY, IF SOMEBODY CAN MAKE

11:58:52 PRIORITY, UNLESS THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE POLES HERE.

11:58:56 I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

11:58:58 AND THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.

11:59:01 I WANT TO KNOW AND YOU ARE GOING TO FIND OUT RIGHT NOW.

11:59:10 >>RON WIGGINTON: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

11:59:11 AS FAR AS THE STREETLIGHT TERMINATION FEES, THIS IS

11:59:13 CURRENTLY IN OUR ALLEYWAY.

11:59:15 CITY OF TAMPA PAYS FOR THAT CONNECTION AND COST.

11:59:18 HOWEVER, IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE

11:59:20 APPLICANT AND TECO MADE AN ARRANGEMENT TO TERMINATE THAT

11:59:24 SERVICE AND TO PAY FOR THE TERMINATION FEE.

11:59:26 I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE COST OR THE ARRANGEMENT.

11:59:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT THE PARTIES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS

11:59:34 HAPPENING.

11:59:34 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




11:59:35 >>RON WIGGINTON: INDEED.

11:59:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.

11:59:38 >> MY NAME IS RALPH KREPPS.

11:59:42 MY WIFE AND I OWN PROPERTY AT 8608 NORTH CENTRAL.

11:59:45 WE RECEIVED A LETTER IN THE MAIL ABOUT THE PROPOSAL TO CLOSE

11:59:48 THE ALLEYWAY.

11:59:49 WE DO HAVE A PARKING SPACE BACK THERE.

11:59:51 SO IF WE TAKE THE ALLEYWAY AWAY, I LOSE THAT PARKING SPACE.

11:59:55 THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE WE HAVE FOR THAT.

11:59:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

12:00:00 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:00:00 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

12:00:02 APPRECIATE IT.

12:00:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

12:00:09 >> WHEN I CALLED THE CITY, IF I HAD KNOWN THAT -- DO YOU

12:00:16 UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING?

12:00:18 THERE'S NO WAY TO FIND THE THING OUT THERE AND THANK YOU

12:00:24 VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

12:00:26 BECAUSE I JUST LEARNED SOMETHING.

12:00:29 AND I DON'T MIND, YOU KNOW, BEING -- I WOULD JUST LIKE TO

12:00:35 GET THAT CLEANED OUT AND SAFETY FOR MY GRANDKIDS.

12:00:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:00:38 ALL RIGHT.

12:00:39 WE GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT.

12:00:40 SIR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD BEFORE WE CLOSE?




12:00:46 YES?

12:00:46 NO?

12:00:47 IF YOU ARE GOOD, YOU ARE GOOD.

12:00:49 OKAY.

12:00:50 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

12:00:52 NO QUESTIONS.

12:00:53 THERE'S NO ONE REGISTERED FOR THIS.

12:00:56 SO I BELIEVE THAT'S IT.

12:00:59 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN

12:01:06 MIRANDA.

12:01:06 ANY OPPOSED?

12:01:07 ALL RIGHT.

12:01:08 WHO WISHES TO READ ITEM NUMBER 61?

12:01:12 WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO READ 61?

12:01:14 THIS IS TO VACATE THE ALLEY.

12:01:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME READ IT.

12:01:23 ITEM NUMBER 61.

12:01:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 61, 61.

12:01:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, I'M SORRY.

12:01:32 ITEM NUMBER 61, FILE VAC 22-08.

12:01:36 IT'S AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING

12:01:38 CONSIDERATION.

12:01:39 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING,

12:01:41 DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING A RIGHT-OF-WAY, ALLEYWAY LOCATED

12:01:45 SOUTH OF YUKON, NORTH OF SEWARD STREET, EAST OF SMALL AVENUE




12:01:50 WEST OF INTERSTATE 275 CENTRAL AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF

12:01:57 IRVITON HEIGHTS, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,

12:02:01 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN

12:02:04 SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS

12:02:06 AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN

12:02:09 PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR ENFORCEMENT AND

12:02:11 PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS,

12:02:13 INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR

12:02:17 SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

12:02:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MEMBER CITRO.

12:02:21 ROLL CALL VOTE.

12:02:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

12:02:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

12:02:25 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

12:02:27 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

12:02:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

12:02:29 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.

12:02:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

12:02:32 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA VOTING NO.

12:02:34 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MAY 5, 2022 AT

12:02:38 9:30 A.M.

12:02:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:02:40 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW ITEM NUMBER 63?

12:02:43 MOTION TO WITHDRAW FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND CITRO.

12:02:48 ALL IN FAVOR?




12:02:49 WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.

12:02:59 (CITY COUNCIL IN RECESS).

13:34:05

13:34:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

13:39:31 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

13:39:32 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

13:39:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

13:39:35 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.

13:39:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

13:39:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

13:39:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

13:39:41 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

13:39:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:39:43 >> THANK YOU FOR MOVING UP THE ADMINISTRATOR UPDATE.

13:39:59 REALLY ON BEHALF OF THE ADMINISTRATION I WANT TO COMMEND AND

13:40:01 WELCOME OUR NEW COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK, AND REALLY LOOKING

13:40:07 FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

13:40:08 I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS POINT OF PRIVILEGE ON THAT UPDATE

13:40:11 SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA AND

13:40:14 CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR POSITION AND LOOKING FORWARD TO

13:40:16 SERVING WITH YOU.

13:40:17 THAT'S ALL.

13:40:18 THANK YOU.

13:40:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:40:21 WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 63.




13:40:24 WE DO HAVE TO SWEAR EVERYBODY IN, CORRECT, ON THIS ONE OR

13:40:27 NOT?

13:40:28 >>THE CLERK: YES.

13:40:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY HERE FOR 63 AND OF 4, PLEASE

13:40:35 RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN, IF YOU ARE

13:40:38 GOING TO BE SPEAKING.

13:40:39 OH, MOTION TO OPEN 63 AND 64 BY CITRO, SECOND FROM

13:40:46 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

13:40:46 ALL IN FAVOR?

13:40:48 THE TWO CASES ARE OPEN.

13:40:49 GO AHEAD.

13:40:49 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

13:40:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

13:40:56 YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.

13:40:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE YOU BEGIN,

13:40:59 I BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER 63 WHICH IS

13:41:02 DE-1-22-95.

13:41:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

13:41:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND 2707 WEST FIG STREET.

13:41:09 COUNCIL, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU RECEIVE AND FILE

13:41:12 ANY EX PARTE WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS PURSUANT TO THE FLORIDA

13:41:15 STATUTE 286.0115 AND IF YOU HAD ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION

13:41:20 VERBALLY, THAT YOU PLEASE DISCLOSE THEM AT THE START OF THE

13:41:25 HEARING.

13:41:26 THAT BEING SAID, MOTION AND SECOND, PLEASE.




13:41:31 TO RECEIVE AND FILE ANY WRITTEN EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS

13:41:34 RELATIVE TO THIS HEARING.

13:41:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY?

13:41:37 MOTION?

13:41:43 COUNCILMAN CITRO, THANK YOU.

13:41:46 ANY OPPOSED?

13:41:48 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

13:41:50 ITEM NUMBER 63 IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW THAT WAS FILED BY

13:41:54 THE PETITIONER JOSEPH GLOGER FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2707

13:42:00 WEST FIG STREET.

13:42:01 THE PETITIONER FILED A REQUEST FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION TO

13:42:04 ALLOW VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE STREET IN LIEU OF ACCESS TO THE

13:42:08 ALLEY IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

13:42:11 STAFF DENIED THE APPLICATION REQUEST ON JANUARY 27th OF

13:42:16 2022.

13:42:16 THE BASIS THAT THE APPLICATION DID NOT MEET THE CODE

13:42:20 SECTIONS WHICH IS 27-241, SUBSECTION 2-C-5 AND ALSO CODE

13:42:29 SECTION 27-60 WHICH IS THE ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION.

13:42:35 I PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED MR. SHELBY A COPY WHICH YOU GUYS WERE

13:42:41 PROVIDED COPIES OF THE RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS, SAMPLE

13:42:44 MOTIONS AND THE RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

13:42:48 THE STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THE PETITION FOR REVIEW IS A

13:42:52 DE NOVO REVIEW ACCORDING TO CODE SECTION 2nd 27-161

13:42:57 SUBSECTION J-2.

13:42:59 THAT CODE SECTION MEANS THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL CAN ACCEPT




13:43:03 NEW EVIDENCE, TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY, AND MAKE YOUR OWN

13:43:07 DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS APPLICATION MEATS THE

13:43:10 CRITERIA ESTABLISHED IN CODE SECTION 27-241 SUBSECTION 2-C-5

13:43:17 AND CODE SECTION 27-60.

13:43:20 STAFF SHOULD BE PRESENT TO PROVIDE THE STAFF ANALYSIS AND

13:43:25 THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE IN THIS CASE, AND THAT STAFF IS

13:43:28 ANDY MIKULSKI.

13:43:31 AFTER CITY COUNCIL HEARS FROM STAFF AND THE PETITIONER FOR

13:43:33 THIS CASE, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE A COUPLE OF ACTIONS.

13:43:37 THOSE ACTIONS ARE TO AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING

13:43:40 ADMINISTRATOR AND VERIFY, DENY THE REQUEST FOR THE DESIGN

13:43:44 EXCEPTION, OR CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE

13:43:48 ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THEREBY GRANT THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.

13:43:54 WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. MIKULSKI WHO WILL BE

13:43:59 SWORN IN IF HE HASN'T ALREADY BEEN SWORN IN.

13:44:02 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

13:44:05 CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME?

13:44:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WERE YOU SWORN IN, SIR?

13:44:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.

13:44:09 I NEED --

13:44:10 >> NO.

13:44:11 I NEED TO BE SWORN IN.

13:44:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

13:44:14 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

13:44:15 >> MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN?




13:44:34 OKAY, CAN EVERYONE SEE THE PowerPoint?

13:44:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN SEE YOUR SCREEN BUT NO

13:44:40 PowerPoint YET.

13:44:41 OKAY, WE CAN SEE THE PowerPoint.

13:44:43 IF YOU JUST MAKE IT BIGGER.

13:44:45 GO AHEAD, SIR.

13:44:46 >> JUST A MOMENT, LET ME -- NOW CAN YOU SEE IT FULL SCREEN?

13:44:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, PEST.

13:44:53 GO AHEAD, SIR.

13:44:54 >> ALL RIGHT.

13:44:55 THIS IS DE 1-22-95.

13:45:01 THE APPLICANT IN THE AGENDA IS JOSEPH GLOGER, PROPERTY

13:45:05 ADDRESS 2707 WEST FIG STREET WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.

13:45:10 THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THE STREET IN LIEU OF

13:45:13 ACCESS TO THE ALLEY.

13:45:16 THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN RED.

13:45:24 THIS IS THE STANDARD FOR REVIEW 27-60.

13:45:30 I WILL GO TO THE FINDINGS.

13:45:32 WE FOUND IT INCONSISTENT.

13:45:34 RELEVANT CODE SECTION IS OPEN USE PUBLIC ALLEY, VEHICLE

13:45:38 ACCESS TO THE SITE SHALL BE PROVIDED FROM THE ALLEY AS A

13:45:41 PRIMARY VEHICULAR ACCESS POINT PROVIDED IT MEETS THE MINIMUM

13:45:45 STANDARDS REFERENCE TO 27-383.12.

13:45:49 AND THE FOLLOWING SLIDE IS THE CRITERIA WHY WE DENIED THE

13:45:53 APPLICATION.




13:45:53 THE FIRST IS THAT EXCEPTION EITHER INTERFERES WITH THE

13:45:58 RIGHTS OF OTHERS, OR IS INJURIOUS TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH,

13:46:01 SAFETY AND WELFARE, AND MY COMMENTS ARE IN ITALICS, SO I

13:46:07 KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY BEEN MADE AWARE RECENTLY OF THE

13:46:12 NEW DRIVEWAYS IN WEST TAMPA, AND IT'S NOT A TREND THAT'S

13:46:17 CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVAILING HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT PATTERN,

13:46:22 AND IT'S NOT IDEAL FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AS IT INCREASE IT

13:46:26 IS NUMBER AND SIZE OF CONFLICT POINTS ON SIDEWALKS, AND IT

13:46:29 ALSO INTERFERES WITH ON-STREET PARKING OPPORTUNITIES, AS YOU

13:46:34 HAVE THE DRIVEWAYS ESPECIALLY DOUBLE CAR WIDTH DRIVEWAYS

13:46:39 EATING UP A LOT OF THAT CURB SPATES THAT ELIMINATES THE

13:46:42 OPPORTUNITY FOR ON-STREET PARKING.

13:46:44 THE SECOND ITEM, THE EXCEPTION MINIMUM POSSIBLE, THE ALLEY

13:46:48 IS PAVED AND USABLE, AND THERE IS NOTHING UNIQUE ABOUT IT

13:46:53 THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO APPROVE THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.

13:46:58 NUMBER 3 IS THE APPROVAL EXCEPTION OF STANDARDS, APPROVAL TO

13:47:04 ENSURE THE JUDGMENT DOES NOT GUARANTEE SPECIAL PRIVILEGES.

13:47:10 SO THE BUILDING PERMIT WHICH HAVE BEEN APPLIED FOR SINCE THE

13:47:13 WEST TAMPA CODE, ALLEYWAY CODE WAS CHANGED, TAMPA HAD

13:47:18 COMPLIED WITH THE ALLEY REQUIREMENTS.

13:47:19 AND I WILL GO INTO THAT IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

13:47:22 THERE ARE SOME BUILDING PERMITS THAT WE DID APPROVE, DID NOT

13:47:28 USE THE ALLEY BECAUSE THOSE ARE DETERMINED TO BE NONUSABLE.

13:47:33 CITY COUNCIL HAS OVERTURNED A COUPLE -- ONE OF THESE IN THE

13:47:36 PAST, AND SOME OF THESE WERE ALSO EXISTING PERMIT




13:47:39 APPLICATIONS THAT WERE AND BEFORE THE CODE WAS CHANGED SO

13:47:43 HAD TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE OLD DESIGN.

13:47:48 AND FINAL ITEM, THE EXCEPTION IS THE CONSISTENT WITH ANY

13:47:52 APPLICABLE SPECIFIC PLANS.

13:47:54 AGAIN, THE OVERLAY IS TO ENSURE THAT ALL TYPES OF NEW

13:47:58 DEVELOPMENTS AND MAJOR RENOVATIONS ARE AVAILABLE WITH THE

13:48:01 BUILDING AND STRUCTURAL ORIENTATION DESIGN ELEMENTS, LOT

13:48:05 DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND OTHER SPECIAL RELATIONSHIPS

13:48:07 WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA AREA.

13:48:10 SO PROMINENT FORWARD FACING GARAGES ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH

13:48:13 THE HISTORIC PATTERN OF WEST TAMPA WHICH IS THE CODE CHANGE

13:48:18 BEGAN WITH.

13:48:18 HERE IS THE PERMITS THAT WERE APPLIED FOR IN WEST TAMPA FROM

13:48:23 ABOUT THE TIME THE CODE WAS CHANGED, THE ALLEYWAY CODE

13:48:26 REQUIREMENT.

13:48:26 THIS IS ABOUT FEBRUARY OF 2021.

13:48:30 SO THESE ARE THE PERMITS FROM 2021, FEBRUARY 2021 TO

13:48:34 DECEMBER 2021.

13:48:36 SO THERE HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE 43, THERE HAVE BEEN 19 THAT

13:48:39 HAVE MET THE ALLEYWAY REQUIREMENTS.

13:48:43 AND I WILL GO TO SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE.

13:48:45 HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.

13:48:49 2707 WEST FIG.

13:48:51 THE ALLEYWAY IS IN THE REAR BEHIND THAT WOODEN FENCE.

13:48:55 SO THE ALLEY IS -- THERE IS AN ALLEYWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY SOME 14




13:49:01 TO 15 FEET, RIGHT-OF-WAY, PAVEMENT IS ABOUT 9 FEET WIDE BUT

13:49:04 IN AREAS IT'S -- AS FAR AS ALLEYS IN TAMPA GO, THIS IS

13:49:09 ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD.

13:49:11 SO HERE IS THE ENTRANCE OF THE ALLEY ON THE WEST.

13:49:14 AND THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT -- I APOLOGIZE.

13:49:21 THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT IS THE ENTRANCE OF THE ALLEY.

13:49:25 PHOTO ON RIGHT IS ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN.

13:49:27 AND THEN THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT OF THIS SCREEN IS THE

13:49:31 EASTERN EDGE OF THE ALLEY LOOKING BACK TO THE WEST.

13:49:34 AND THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT, THIS IS A NEWER HOME THAT WAS

13:49:39 APPROVED, AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THAT NOTCH CUT OUT ON THE

13:49:43 FENCE ON THE LEFT WHERE THERE IS REQUIRED VISITOR SPOT, SO

13:49:48 THIS IS A NEW BUILDING, AND IN ORDER TO MEET THE

13:49:54 REQUIREMENTS THEY PROPOSED USING THE ALLEY FOR VEHICLE

13:49:57 ACCESS.

13:49:58 AND I WILL SHOW YOU THAT HERE.

13:50:00 THAT'S 2704 WEST GRAY WHICH IS IN YELLOW TO THE RIGHT OF THE

13:50:05 SUBJECT PROPERTY.

13:50:06 AND HERE IS A BUILDING PLAN, AND YOU CAN SEE GUEST PARKING

13:50:10 IS BEING MET ON THE ALLEY.

13:50:12 THIS WAS AGAIN BEFORE THEY WERE REQUIRED TO USE THE ALLEY

13:50:15 FOR VEHICLE ACCESS.

13:50:17 HOWEVER, SO THEY THE DRIVEWAYS UP FRONT, THEY DETERMINED IN

13:50:24 THIS CASE THAT THE ALLEY MET -- THEY WERE ABLE TO USE TO THE

13:50:27 MEET THEIR -- TO MEET THEIR VEHICLE SPOT, GUEST-REQUIRED




13:50:32 SPOT.

13:50:33 AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

13:50:35 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

13:50:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:50:37 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

13:50:40 ALL RIGHT.

13:50:41 SEEING NONE, THE APPLICANT.

13:50:48 >> I WILL STOP SHARING MY SCREEN AT THIS MOMENT.

13:50:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:50:52 THE APPLICANT HAS 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT.

13:50:56 AND THEN WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER.

13:50:58 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

13:51:00 I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE IN 2017.

13:51:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

13:51:04 >> JOSEPH GLOGER.

13:51:06 I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE IN 2017, HAD A DRIVEWAY, I HAD A

13:51:10 CARPORT, AND I HAD EVERY INTENTION TO TEAR THIS HOUSE DOWN

13:51:13 TO BUILD A NEW -- A TINY TWO-ONE.

13:51:21 THIS NEW RULE CHANGE HAPPENED FEBRUARY OF 2021 WITH ZERO

13:51:25 NOTICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

13:51:26 I GOT NO LETTER THAT THIS WAS EVEN HAPPENING.

13:51:30 BUT FOR ME TO DO A DESIGN EXCEPTION, I HAVE TO GO TO THE

13:51:32 PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE, SEND OUT ALL THESE CERTIFIED

13:51:35 LETTERS, THAT I HAVE TO SIGN, BUT I GOT NO NOTICE THAT THIS

13:51:41 WAS HAPPENING.




13:51:41 I HAD THE HORSE TORN DOWN, AND NOW AN EMPTY LOT WITH NO

13:51:45 HOUSE ON IT, AND THIS LOT IS ONLY 70 FEET DEEP.

13:51:55 A GARAGE IS TYPICALLY 22 FEET.

13:51:57 AM I NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A BACKYARD?

13:52:00 I WILL BE THE ONLY PERSON ON THIS ALLEY THAT HAS TO USE IT.

13:52:03 EVERY SINGLE HOUSE -- EVERY SINGLE HOUSE, 2701, GARAGE

13:52:17 DRIVEWAY.

13:52:21 DRIVEWAY.

13:52:23 THIS IS THE NEW HOUSE RIGHT NEXT TO MY LOT.

13:52:25 GARAGE AND DRIVEWAY.

13:52:29 DRIVEWAY.

13:52:30 DRIVEWAY.

13:52:32 HOUSES ON GRAY.

13:52:34 GARAGE AND DRIVEWAY.

13:52:36 GARAGE AND DRIVEWAY.

13:52:40 GARAGE AND DRIVEWAY.

13:52:42 GARAGE AND DRIVEWAY.

13:52:44 AND THEN THESE ARE FOUR TOWNHOMES BUILT ON GRAY.

13:52:50 GARAGES.

13:52:51 I WILL BE THE ONLY HOUSE THAT HAS TO DRIVE DOWN AND MAINTAIN

13:52:54 THE WHOLE ALLEY.

13:52:56 HE SAID IT'S A DRIVABLE ALLEY.

13:52:58 I HAVE MEASURED AT 9 FEET IN SOME SPOTS.

13:53:03 MY TRUCK IS 8 FEET WIDE.

13:53:06 HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO MAKE A 90ยบ TURN TO A GARAGE?




13:53:12 THEY SAY THAT'S PAVED.

13:53:14 YEAH, PAVED 40 YEARS AGO THAT NOW IT'S NOT REALLY DRIVABLE.

13:53:20 CAN YOU DRIVE ON IT?

13:53:21 YEAH, BUT YOU HAVE NO ROOM.

13:53:23 SOMEONE DUMPS SOMETHING DOWN THE ALLEY, WHICH IS CONSTANT,

13:53:27 THERE'S DEBRIS EVERYWHERE, SO NOW I HAVE TO GET OUT OF MY

13:53:32 CAR TO MOVE THIS DEBRIS AND WHERE DO I PUT IT?

13:53:36 I'M A FIREFIGHTER.

13:53:36 I AM GONE 24-48 HOURS AT A TIME.

13:53:40 I DO NOT FEEL SAFE WITH MY WIFE WITH ONLY TWO MEANS OF

13:53:45 EGRESS.

13:53:46 ONE OF THEM CAN BE BLOCKED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DUMPING

13:53:48 MATTRESSES.

13:53:50 THAT WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

13:53:52 YEAH, IT'S JUST A TINY CHAIR, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A BIG

13:53:55 VEHICLE, HOW DO YOU HAVE ROOM TO GET OUT OF YOUR CAR TO MOVE

13:54:01 THAT CHAIR?

13:54:02 MY WIFE GOES TO WORK AT SIX IN THE MORNING, PITCH BLACK.

13:54:06 WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR DRIVING DOWN THAT ALLEY

13:54:10 EARLY IN THE MORNING?

13:54:11 I TALKED TO ONE NEIGHBOR.

13:54:13 HE SAID TWO BLOCKS BACK PEOPLE SENT UP A TENT CAMP IN THE

13:54:17 ALLEY.

13:54:17 I HAVE GOT TO WORRY ABOUT THAT NOW WHEN I AM GONE FOR 24-48

13:54:21 HOURS?




13:54:24 THIS IS SUPPOSED TO HELP WITH PARKING ON THE STREET.

13:54:28 GIVEN THE ONLY TWO SPOTS IT'S A 4 TO 5 BEDROOM HOUSE, WHEN

13:54:32 MY DAUGHTER GETS OLDER, WHERE IS HER CAR GOING TO GO?

13:54:37 WITH ONLY TWO SPOTS SHE'S GOING TO BE PARKING ON THE STREET.

13:54:39 WHEN I HAVE FAMILY, MY WIFE'S MOM IS ABOUT TO RETIRE, LIVES

13:54:43 IN ST. LOUIS, AND SPENDING MONTHS DOWN HERE AT A TIME,

13:54:46 BECAUSE WE JUST HAD A BABY.

13:54:47 WHERE IS SHE GOING TO PARK?

13:54:50 HAS TO PARK ON THE STREET.

13:54:51 MY TRUCK HAS TO GO ON THE STREET.

13:54:55 THIS IS GOING TO ADD MORE CLUTTER ON THE STREET.

13:54:58 I THINK ONLY ONE HOUSE HAS A PIECE OF SIDEWALK.

13:55:02 THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.

13:55:03 SO THERE WOULD BE NO SIDEWALK I'M BLOCKING.

13:55:06 I THINK TO PUT A SIDEWALK AND WON'T BE BLOCKED.

13:55:26 IT'S A HUGE SAFETY CONCERN KNOWING THAT MY WIFE WOULD HAVE

13:55:28 TO GET HER GROCERIES OUT IN THIS ALLEY, WALK TO THE FRONT OF

13:55:32 THE HOUSE.

13:55:33 I MEAN, I AM AT FIRE STATION 3 AT KENNEDY AND WILL O.I HAVE

13:55:39 SEEN SOME CRAZY THINGS HAPPEN IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

13:55:41 AND I DON'T WANT MY WIFE TO HAVE TO DRIVE DOWN AND USE THE

13:55:45 ALLEY.

13:55:46 I MEAN, I JUST THINK THAT HAVING TWO MEANS OF EGRESS IS JUST

13:55:52 ASININE.

13:55:54 AND PEOPLE CLAIM THAT FIRE, POLICE USE THESE ALLEYS.




13:55:58 I HAVE GOT 9 FEET.

13:56:01 EVEN IT IS 10 TO IS THE 12, FIRE TRUCKS CAN'T GET DOWN

13:56:07 THERE.

13:56:08 AMBULANCES CAN'T GET DOWN THERE.

13:56:10 WE NEED THE FRONT ACCESS TO OUR HOME.

13:56:15 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

13:56:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

13:56:20 HEARING NONE, WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED PERSON FOR PUBLIC

13:56:26 COMMENT.

13:56:27 IF SANDY SANCHEZ, I BELIEVE, YES, SANDY SANCHEZ IS ON,

13:56:34 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND ACTIVATE YOUR CAMERA SO WE CAN

13:56:38 SEE YOUR FACE.

13:56:38 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

13:56:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.

13:56:46 CAN YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA ON?

13:56:50 >> MY CAMERA IS SHOWING ME.

13:56:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S CHANGE THE SCREENS HERE.

13:56:54 YES, MA'AM.

13:56:55 >> OKAY?

13:56:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN ONCE YOUR

13:57:02 CAMERA COMES ON.

13:57:03 IS IT ON?

13:57:04 >> CAN YOU SEE ME NOW?

13:57:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

13:57:14 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAPPENED AND WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR




13:57:17 YOU IN.

13:57:17 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

13:57:19 >> I DO.

13:57:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.

13:57:24 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

13:57:25 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

13:57:26 >> MY NAME IS SANDY SANCHEZ, I LIVE AT 2750 FIG STREET RIGHT

13:57:32 NEXT DOOR.

13:57:35 BUT BEFORE I BEGIN, CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO AND COUNCIL MEMBERS,

13:57:39 I WAS NOT SCHEDULED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM UNTIL THE LAST

13:57:42 MINUTE.

13:57:43 MR. CARLSON HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY TO REWORK SOME OF

13:57:47 THE SEMANTICS AND FIX THE OVERLAY, WAS CALLED OUT ON A

13:57:52 PERSONAL EMERGENCY, SO I WOULD REQUEST AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE,

13:57:55 IF I NEED IT, PLEASE.

13:57:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

13:58:03 ALL IN FAVOR?

13:58:05 GO AHEAD.

13:58:05 >> AGAIN MY NAME IS SANDY SANCHEZ, THE PRESIDENT OF THE

13:58:10 ARMWOOD GARDENS CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE

13:58:14 COMMITTEE OF THE WEST TAMPA CRA CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE,

13:58:17 AND WORKING ON THE EXISTING WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.

13:58:22 FIRST LET ME EXPLAIN THAT IN APRIL 2021, I PERSONALLY SPOKE

13:58:29 TO THE APPLICANT AND EXPLAINED THE CHANGES IN THE WEST TAMPA

13:58:32 OVERLAY.




13:58:34 I KNEW HE WAS GETTING READY TO TEAR DOWN THIS HOUSE, SO I

13:58:37 WANTED TO MAKE HIM AWARE OF THE GUIDELINES BEFORE HE

13:58:44 SUBMITTED HIS PLANS.

13:58:45 SO LET ME MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR.

13:58:47 THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE CHANGES TO THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY

13:58:50 WERE TO MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER FOR ALL USERS, ESPECIALLY OUR

13:58:55 VULNERABLE POPULATION, ELDERLY, HANDICAPPED, ET CETERA.

13:58:59 SAFETY BETWEEN THE PEDESTRIANS AND THE VEHICLES.

13:59:02 CARS PARK ON THE STREET.

13:59:06 PEDESTRIANS AND WHEELCHAIR USERS IN THE STREET WERE PRONE TO

13:59:09 BE HIT BY A CAR DRIVING BY.

13:59:11 THE MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY

13:59:13 HAVE NO SIDEWALKS.

13:59:16 THE CHANGES, THE WEST TAMPA CRA AND CITIZENS ADVISORY

13:59:19 COMMITTEE, ARE CONTINUALLY WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF TO

13:59:23 EXPAND THE LANGUAGE AND PROVIDE OTHER SOLUTIONS SINCE WE

13:59:26 REALIZED ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION IS NOT PRACTICAL.

13:59:31 WE ARE LOOKING AT ALLEY WIDTHS, CONDITIONS, DRAINAGE

13:59:35 REQUIREMENT, IMPROVEMENTS OF ALLEY REQUIREMENTS, THESE

13:59:38 FACTORS AFFECT THE ABILITY FOR A VEHICLE TO USE THEM.

13:59:42 I HAVE LIVED NEXT DOOR TO THE APPLICANT.

13:59:44 THEY HAVE AN ALLEY THAT IS WIDE ENOUGH, CLEAR ENOUGH,

13:59:48 ALREADY IMPROVED, AND IS KEPT CLEAN BY MYSELF.

13:59:52 I PAY TO HAVE THAT ALLEY CLEANED ABOUT EVERY SIX WEEKS.

13:59:57 THE LOCATION IS A PRIME EXAMPLE WHEREOF WE SHOULD HAVE




14:00:00 ALLEYS ACCESS.

14:00:03 MR. MIKULSKI'S URBAN PLANNING REPORT, THE ALLEYWAY IS USABLE

14:00:11 AND THERE IS NO RESTRAINT OF USING THE ALLEY.

14:00:15 UNQUOTE.

14:00:15 THERE ARE OTHER NEW HOUSES ON THE BLOCK OF FIG STREET RIGHT

14:00:19 ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.

14:00:21 THERE ARE THREE TOWNHOMES BEING BUILT ACROSS THE STREET.

14:00:24 BEFORE THEY BEGAN TO BUILD, THEY REVISED THE PLANS TO MEET

14:00:27 THE OVERLAY AND PROVIDE ALLEY ACCESS FOR ALL THREE

14:00:30 TOWNHOMES.

14:00:32 AT 2701 WEST FIG, WHICH IS TO THE EAST OF US, THE PROPERTY

14:00:36 DIRECTLY TO THE EAST HAS RECENTLY BEEN MURDER AND THE

14:00:40 ORIGINAL HOME HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED AND THE LOTS HAVE BEEN

14:00:44 SPLIT.

14:00:44 THEY WERE ALSO REQUIRED IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY TO PROVIDE

14:00:49 ALLEY ACCESS TO PARKING AS AGAIN THIS ALLEY IS WIDE ENOUGH,

14:00:52 CLEAR ENOUGH, AND ALREADY IMPROVED FOR VEHICLE USE.

14:00:56 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PETITIONER WILL NOT BE THE ONLY ONE ON

14:00:59 THE BLOCK WITH ALLEY ACCESS.

14:01:02 THERE ARE SIX NEW HOMES AT DIFFERENT STAGES OF CONSTRUCTION

14:01:04 ON THIS BLOCK, ALL WITH EASY ACCESS TO ALLEYS THAT FALL

14:01:09 WITHIN THE CRITERIA OF THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.

14:01:12 REMEMBER, ORIGINALLY ALL THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY, WE ASK THAT

14:01:16 YOU CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE OVERLAY AND VOTE AGAINST THIS

14:01:20 DESIGN EXCEPTION.




14:01:21 AND AS I QUOTE AGAIN FROM URBAN PLANNING, THE EXISTING ALLEY

14:01:25 IS PAVED, USABLE AND THERE IS NO UNIQUE SITE CONSTRAINT

14:01:29 PREVENTING THE USE OF THE ALLEY.

14:01:30 PLEASE VOTE TO KEEP THE EXISTING RULING INTACT AND DENY THIS

14:01:34 EXCEPTION.

14:01:35 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

14:01:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:01:44 ALL RIGHT.

14:01:44 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC?

14:01:47 THAT WAS THE ONLY REGISTERED PUBLIC COMMENT, INDIVIDUAL.

14:01:49 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC?

14:01:51 >> DO I GET TO TALK?

14:01:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL AT THIS

14:01:56 TIME?

14:01:57 IF NOT, IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENT.

14:01:59 NO?

14:02:00 YOU DO HAVE FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.

14:02:03 >> SO THAT'S SANDY'S HOME. IN 2018 SHE GOT A DESIGN

14:02:16 EXCEPTION, ZERO PROPERTY LINE CARPORT THAT SHE SAID SHE

14:02:19 WANTED IN HER LETTER TO THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO PARK IN THE

14:02:23 DRIVEWAY AND THE CARPORT SO SHE CAN WALK TO HER FRONT DOOR.

14:02:27 NOW SHE'S SAYING I HAVE TO USE THE ALLEY?

14:02:32 I JUST SHOWED YOU ALL THE HOUSES THAT ARE ALREADY ON, THEY

14:02:37 ALL HAVE GARAGES.

14:02:40 AND THE LETTERS SENT BY RAMIREZ, I DROVE BY IT TODAY.




14:02:46 HE HAS A DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT.

14:02:48 DOESN'T USE THE ALLEY.

14:02:50 SO THESE PEOPLE ARE ARGUING THAT EVERYBODY, OTHER PEOPLE

14:02:53 HAVE TO USE THE ALLEY, BUT THEY DON'T.

14:02:56 THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM.

14:02:57 AND THIS WAS VOTED IN FEBRUARY BUT NO ONE KNEW THAT THAT WAS

14:03:02 GOING TO HAPPEN.

14:03:03 I TALKED TO SOME BUILDERS AND THEY SAID THEY WERE

14:03:06 BLIND-SIDED BY THIS.

14:03:07 I WAS BLIND-SIDED BY THIS.

14:03:09 I TORE MY HOUSE DOWN.

14:03:12 I CAN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE.

14:03:13 THE PROPERTIES ARE SO EXPENSIVE RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T AFFORD TO

14:03:16 GO BY ANOTHER LOT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

14:03:18 I GOT LUCKY ENOUGH THAT I BOUGHT THIS IN 2017 BEFORE THIS

14:03:22 MARKET BLEW UP.

14:03:23 AND RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, I MEAN, I CAN'T GO ANYWHERE

14:03:31 ELSE, AND IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO HAVE A GARAGE ON THAT TINY

14:03:34 LOT WITH THAT ON THE ALLEY, AND A TINY LITTLE ALLEY.

14:03:39 I MEAN, WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE, HOW CAN THEY MAKE YOU USE THE

14:03:44 ALLEY?

14:03:46 BEFORE YOU COULD CHOOSE TO USE THE ALLEY OR NOT.

14:03:49 THAT'S THE PERFECT SET-UP.

14:03:50 WHY FORCE PEOPLE TO HAVE TO USE AN ALLEY?

14:03:53 I MEAN, THIS IS FINANCIALLY KILLING ME BECAUSE I HAVE




14:03:57 ORDERED WINDOWS BACK IN OCTOBER THINKING THAT I WAS GOING TO

14:04:00 HAVE THIS HOUSE NINE MONTHS OUT.

14:04:04 $22,000 OF WINDOWS THAT JUST GOT HERE.

14:04:06 NOW WHERE DO THEY GO?

14:04:09 THEY ARE GOING TO SAY I CAN'T USE THIS HOUSE, THESE WINDOWS

14:04:13 FOR A HOUSE THAT I CAN'T BUILD.

14:04:15 SO THIS HAS CAUSED MY FAMILY SOME SERIOUS HEARTACHE, AND

14:04:22 THIS IS LIFE CHANGING FOR ME.

14:04:24 I AM NOT SOME FAST BUILDER TRYING TO COME IN AND CHANGE THE

14:04:27 RULE.

14:04:28 I WAS IN THIS HOUSE BEFORE THE RULE CHANGE.

14:04:30 I HAD FRONT PORCH AND A DRIVEWAY.

14:04:33 I SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE FRONT ACCESS.

14:04:38 AND THEY SAID KEEP CARS OFF THE STREET.

14:04:40 THIS PUTS MOWER CARS ON THE STREET.

14:04:43 WHEN YOU -- THESE HOUSES HAVE FOUR TO FIVE BEDROOMS.

14:04:46 THAT'S FOUR TO FIVE PEOPLE, SIX PEOPLE THAT CAN DRIVE A CAR.

14:04:50 WHERE DO THEIR CARS GO?

14:04:52 THERE'S NO DRIVEWAY.

14:04:53 ONLY A TWO CAR GARAGE.

14:04:54 THE CARS ARE IN THE STREET.

14:04:56 NOW THE CARS ARE GOING DO OVERRUN WITH ALL THE PARKING ON

14:05:01 THE STREETS.

14:05:02 THAT'S MY REBUTTAL.

14:05:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




14:05:05 I WILL JUST SAY REAL QUICK, BECAUSE YOU BOUGHT YOUR HOUSE IN

14:05:08 2017 AND IT HAD A CARPORT AND A DRIVEWAY, AND EVERYTHING

14:05:13 THAT YOU ARGUED REGARDING THE WIDTH OF THE ALLEY, YOU DRIVE

14:05:18 A TRUCK, YOU KNOW, YOUR WIFE, EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID, AND

14:05:23 THAT'S BESIDES THE POINT, BUT I MEAN I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHER

14:05:27 COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL, AND WE WILL GO TO EVERYBODY, BUT I AM

14:05:29 IN SUPPORT OF OVERTURNING THE DENIAL.

14:05:34 YOU HAVE ALREADY PROVEN YOUR POINT.

14:05:36 AND I CAN SENSE YOUR FRUSTRATION, AND THE HOUSING MARKET IS

14:05:41 RIDICULOUS.

14:05:42 I CAN'T SAY SELL THE LOT AND BUY SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE WHAT

14:05:45 IS A LOT IF YOU CAN FIND A LOT, WHAT IS IT GOING TO COST?

14:05:48 >> THAT'S WHAT SANDY TOLD ME Y.DON'T YOU GO BUY SOMEWHERE

14:05:51 ELSE?

14:05:52 NO, I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE NOW.

14:05:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MORE IMPORTANTLY IS YOU BOUGHT THE

14:05:57 HOUSE IN 2017, BEFORE THESE CHANGES WERE IMPLEMENTED AND

14:06:01 THAT HOUSE HAD A CARPORT AND A DRIVEWAY.

14:06:04 SO I UNDERSTAND, WE CHANGE THE RULES AND WHATNOT.

14:06:09 BUT WE SHOULD MAKE AN EXCEPTION HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN

14:06:12 INVESTED FIVE YEARS AND YOU ARE WAITING.

14:06:15 YOU KNOW, I GET IT.

14:06:18 SO ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS OR

14:06:21 QUESTIONS?

14:06:26 WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN MOVING.




14:06:28 SO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM CITRO,

14:06:32 SECOND FROM GUDES.

14:06:33 ALL IN FAVOR?

14:06:34 WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?

14:06:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL, IF YOU DO NOT MIND.

14:06:39 AND ITEM NUMBER 63, DE 1-22-95, I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE

14:06:45 ZONING ADMINISTRATION'S DENIAL FOR DESIGN EXCEPTION ON THIS

14:06:56 CASE.

14:07:00 THE PETITIONER HAS PRESENTED THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE

14:07:04 HOUSING ON THE STREET HAVE A PARKING AND GARAGE AT THE

14:07:12 ENTRANCE, IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTIES, AND THE IRREGULAR LOT

14:07:15 DESIGN IS AN INCONVENIENCE TO PROPERTY OWNER FOR PARKING IN

14:07:18 THE REAR.

14:07:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

14:07:21 YES, SIR?

14:07:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE PURPOSES, IF YOU CAN STATE THE

14:07:24 SECTIONS RELATIVE --

14:07:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OH, I'M SORRY, 27-60 AND 27-241-2-POINT C

14:07:35 .5.

14:07:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR MOTION TO OVERTURN, DOES THAT MEAN

14:07:38 THOSE STANDARDS SHOULD BE WAIVED?

14:07:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

14:07:42 YES, PLEASE.

14:07:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.

14:07:45 ON THE BASIS OF THE FACTS AS THEY HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO




14:07:47 YOU?

14:07:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.

14:07:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

14:07:53 ALL IN FAVOR?

14:07:56 ANY OPPOSED?

14:07:58 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.

14:08:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

14:08:02 YOU ARE GOOD TO GO.

14:08:04 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:08:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 64.

14:08:07 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MAY WE HAVE JUST ONE MOMENT?

14:08:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

14:08:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN JUST WITH REGARD TO THIS CASE

14:08:40 WHICH IS E 1-22-050 AT 2423 WEST STATE STREET, A MOTION TO

14:08:47 RECEIVE AND FILE WRITTEN COMMENTS, ANYTHING, VERBALLY

14:08:52 COMMUNICATED PLEASE DO SO NOW.

14:08:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY?

14:08:55 NO.

14:08:55 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

14:08:56 MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA, SECONDED BY CITRO.

14:09:02 YES, MA'AM.

14:09:02 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

14:09:05 I'M HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 64, FOR PETITION FOR REVIEW THAT WAS

14:09:09 FILED FOR DE 1-22-50 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2423 WEST

14:09:17 STATE STREET.




14:09:17 THE PETITIONER FOR THIS CASE WILL BE REPRESENTING THE

14:09:22 PETITIONER IS BRYANT DUNIVAN.

14:09:26 THE PROPERTY OWNER REQUESTED A DESIGN EXCEPTION TO ALLOW

14:09:29 VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE STREETS IN LIEU OF ACCESS TO THE ALLEY

14:09:32 IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, AND TO HAVE FLOOR HEIGHT LESS

14:09:37 THAN 24 FEET -- 24 INCHES AS REQUIRED BY THE CODE.

14:09:42 STAFF DENIED THE REQUEST FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION ON JANUARY

14:09:47 23rd OF 2022.

14:09:50 ON THE BASIS THAT THE APPLICATION DID NOT MEET THE CODE

14:09:54 CRITERIAS IN SECTION 27-241 SUBSECTION 2 C 5 AND C 7,

14:10:00 ADDITIONALLY CODE SECTION 27-60.

14:10:04 AS I EARLY PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED CITY COUNCIL THE RELEVANT

14:10:08 CODE SECTIONS, THE SAMPLE MOTION AND THE RULES OF PROCEDURE

14:10:11 RELEVANT TO THIS CASE.

14:10:14 THE STATEMENT OF REVIEW IS GUIDED BY CITY OF TAMPA CODE

14:10:17 SECTION 27-61 SUBSECTION J-2 WHICH STATES THAT CITY COUNCIL

14:10:23 CAN ACCEPT NEW EVIDENCE, TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY, AND AFTER

14:10:28 HEARING ALL THE EVIDENCE, CITY COUNCIL ON ITS OWN CAN

14:10:32 DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICATION MEETS THE

14:10:35 REQUIREMENTS OF 27-241 SUBSECTION C-2-5 AND C-7 AND ALSO

14:10:42 27-60.

14:10:46 AFTER HEARING FROM STAFF, MR. ANDY MIKULSKI REGARDING THE

14:10:52 DECISION OF THE STAFF BEFORE THIS APPLICATION AND THE

14:10:54 OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATION, CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE

14:10:58 DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THEREBY DENY THE




14:11:02 REQUEST FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION, OR CITY COUNCIL CAN

14:11:08 OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND

14:11:10 THEREBY GRANT THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.

14:11:14 WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. MIKULSKI.

14:11:22 >> ANDY MIKULSKI, URBAN DESIGN COORDINATOR.

14:11:28 MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN?

14:11:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

14:11:36 MAKE IT BIGGER.

14:11:37 >>> CAN YOU SEE THE FULL SCREEN NOW?

14:11:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

14:11:44 GO AHEAD.

14:11:44 >> IT'S DE-22-50, 2423 WEST STATE STREET, IN THE OVERLAY,

14:11:54 AND REQUESTING ALLOWING VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE STREET IN LIEU

14:11:57 OF THE ALLEY AND THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST TO WAIVE THE

14:12:01 REQUIRED FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION OF 24 INCHES ABOVE

14:12:04 SURROUNDING GRADE, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE WEST TAMPA

14:12:08 OVERLAY.

14:12:09 SO SUBJECT PROPERTY IN RED.

14:12:12 IT'S ONE BLOCK EAST OF TAMPANIA.

14:12:18 AGAIN THE STANDARDS OF REVIEW.

14:12:20 I WON'T GO OVER THESE.

14:12:21 AND OUR FINDINGS.

14:12:25 IT'S INCONSISTENT BASED ON USE OF PUBLIC ALLEY, VEHICLE SASS

14:12:30 TO THE SITE SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE ALLEYS AS A PRIMARY

14:12:34 VEHICULAR ACCESS POINT.




14:12:36 AND ALSO INCONSISTENT WITH THE SECOND REQUEST OF THE FLOOR

14:12:40 HEIGHT, WHICH IS THE INTENT OF REQUIRING ELEVATED FINISH

14:12:46 FLOOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO ENCOURAGE COMPATIBLE DESIGN

14:12:49 WITH THE HISTORIC HOUSING STYLES WHICH ARE CHARACTERISTIC OF

14:12:52 THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY.

14:12:53 THE FINISHED FLOORING OF SINGLE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI

14:12:58 DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND MULTI-FAMILY

14:13:00 RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES SHALL BE A MINIMUM OF 24 INCHES ABOVE

14:13:03 THE FINISHED GRADE MEASURED ALONG ALL SIDES OF THE

14:13:06 STRUCTURE.

14:13:09 BOTH REQUESTS WERE DENIED BY STAFF AS THE ALLEYWAY WAS

14:13:11 DETERMINED TO BE OPEN AND USED AND THERE WAS NO COMPELLING

14:13:14 SITE CONDITION TO REDUCE THE REQUIREMENT OF THE 24-INCH

14:13:18 FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION.

14:13:23 AGAIN, THE FINDINGS, NEW DRIVEWAYS AND DOUBLE CAR DRIVEWAYS

14:13:30 IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND INCREASES NUMBER

14:13:33 OF CONFLICT POINTS ON SIDEWALKS, AND TO BE BUILT SIDEWALKS,

14:13:38 AND YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A LACK OF SIDEWALKS THROUGHOUT

14:13:41 THE CITY, ESPECIALLY WEST TAMPA.

14:13:45 EXPECT WITH THE RECENT SIDEWALK CHANGES THAT WE ARE GOING TO

14:13:47 BE BUILDING A LOT MORE SIDEWALKS.

14:13:49 SO AGAIN, IT'S TO ALSO PRESERVE THE ON-STREET OPPORTUNITIES

14:13:55 FOR ON-STREET PARKING.

14:13:59 AND POINT NUMBER 4, THE EXCEPTION IS MINIMUM AS POSSIBLE,

14:14:04 THE EXISTING ALLEY IS PAVED AND USABLE TO PREVENT COMPLIANCE




14:14:09 WITH THE CODE SECTION AND THERE'S ALSO TOPOGRAPHY ISSUES

14:14:13 PREVENTING THE REQUIRED 24-INCH FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION.

14:14:18 POINT NUMBER 5, AGAIN THIS IS THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS CASE,

14:14:24 19 OF THE 43 BUILDING PERMIT COMPLIED WITH THE NEW CODE

14:14:27 REQUIREMENT FOR THE ALLEY, TO REQUIRE ALLEY ACCESS.

14:14:32 WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYONE REQUEST TO WAIVE THAT 24-INCH FINISHED

14:14:37 FLOOR ELEVATION, SO THAT'S -- THERE'S NOTHING TO COMPARE IT

14:14:41 TO.

14:14:42 AND THE LAST POINT IS THAT THE EXCEPTION IS CONSISTENT WITH

14:14:45 ANY APPLICABLE SPECIFIC PLANS.

14:14:48 WE HAVE THE PURPOSE OF THE OVERLAY TO ENSURE THAT NEW

14:14:51 DEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING -- THE HISTORIC

14:14:54 PATTERN OF WEST TAMPA.

14:14:56 AND FACING GARAGES ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH PATTERN AND SLAB

14:15:02 ON GRADE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE HISTORIC

14:15:09 PATTERN OF WEST TAMPA.

14:15:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY QUESTION -- AND MARTY, TELL ME IF I AM

14:15:15 OFF -- MR. MANISCALCO, QUESTION.

14:15:28 TO ASK FOR THE OVERLAY IN WEST TAMPA TO BE REVIEWED.

14:15:32 AM I CORRECT?

14:15:34 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

14:15:35 YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

14:15:37 ABBYE FEELEY CAME BEFORE YOU AND GAVE A PRESENTATION, I

14:15:41 BELIEVE A WORKSHOP, I DON'T RECALL THE DATE, BUT MS. FEELEY

14:15:44 DID COME BEFORE YOU TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT.




14:15:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND THEN WORKING ON THIS PARTICULAR

14:15:50 SITUATION IN WEST TAMPA, CORRECT?

14:15:54 >> YES.

14:15:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHY ARE THESE CASES GOING --

14:16:03 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: BECAUSE THE RULE HAS NOT BEEN

14:16:05 CHANGED.

14:16:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GOT MY ANSWER.

14:16:07 THANK YOU.

14:16:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

14:16:09 >> AGAIN, SAME AS THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, 19 OF THE 43 NEW

14:16:14 BUILTS HAVE COMPLIED WITH ALLEY ACCESS, AND NOW I WILL RUN

14:16:18 THROUGH PHOTOS OF THE SITE.

14:16:19 2423 WEST STATE STREET.

14:16:22 HERE IS THE ALLEY.

14:16:23 AGAIN IT'S ABOUT A 14 -- ALLEYWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY IS 14 FEET,

14:16:27 PAVEMENT IS ABOUT 9, BUT THE PAVEMENT IS IN MUCH BETTER

14:16:32 CONDITION THAN THE PREVIOUS ALLEY.

14:16:34 THE FENCE, IT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

14:16:36 THE FENCE LEANING INTO THE ALLEYWAY, THAT'S BEHIND THE

14:16:39 SUBJECT PROPERTY.

14:16:39 SO THAT'S BEING REMOVED WHEN THEY START CONSTRUCTION.

14:16:47 AND THAT IS IT.

14:16:50 ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

14:16:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

14:16:54 HEARING NONE, WE WILL GO TO THE APPLICANT.




14:16:57 YOU HAVE 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT, SIR.

14:17:00 THEN WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

14:17:02 >> CAN COUNCIL SEE MY SCREEN?

14:17:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

14:17:20 >> BASICALLY, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE SIMILAR ISSUES AS THE

14:17:24 LAST APPLICATION.

14:17:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME.

14:17:27 >> BRYANT DUNIVAN, ADDRESS 301 WEST PLATT STREET, TAMPA,

14:17:32 FLORIDA 33606.

14:17:33 I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT AT THE TIME OF THIS APPLICATION IT

14:17:36 WAS MAESTRA INCORPORATED AND NOW IS SANDRA SANCHEZ, 2423

14:17:44 STATE STREET.

14:17:45 YOU CAN SEE THE DESIGN.

14:17:46 THE PROPOSED DESIGN.

14:17:49 MRS. SANCHEZ HAS BEEN EAGERLY AWAITING CONSTRUCTION ABSENT

14:17:54 THIS ISSUE.

14:17:55 PRIOR TO GETTING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, THE 24-INCH DESIGN

14:17:58 EXCEPTION HAS BEEN ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS DRAWN BY THE

14:18:01 APPLICANT.

14:18:02 WE ARE NOT PURSUING THAT.

14:18:03 THIS IS SOLELY ON THE ALLEYWAY ISSUE.

14:18:07 AND THE REASON FOR THE ALLEYWAY ISSUE THAT WE TAKE ISSUE

14:18:12 WITH IS THE FACT THAT -- I'M SORRY -- IS THE FACT THAT THIS

14:18:17 ALLEY ACCESS PROVISION IS TOO BROAD.

14:18:22 CITY COUNCIL HAS DEALT WITH THIS ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS.




14:18:25 AS FAR BACK AS OCTOBER, COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA CITED THE NEED

14:18:29 FOR THIS HISTORIC USE.

14:18:30 THE HISTORIC USE OF ALLEYS IS THE SURFACE.

14:18:34 MR. MIRANDA WENT TO GREAT DISCUSSION ABOUT FOR TRASH CANS.

14:18:41 IT WASN'T EVER PROPOSED TO HAVE MAIN ACCESS TO A LOT GO

14:18:46 THROUGH THE ALLEYS.

14:18:47 THIS LOT IN QUESTION AS WE ARE LOOKING AT 27-241-C-2-5 IF AN

14:18:52 EXISTING LOT IS ADJACENT TO AN OPEN USE ALLEY PARTICULAR

14:18:56 ACCESS TO THE SITE SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE ALLEY AS PRIMARY

14:18:59 VEHICULAR ACCESS POINT.

14:19:01 IT'S OUR CONTENTION THAT THIS ALLEYWAY IS NOT OPEN AND USED

14:19:05 IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH THE BUILDING PLAN.

14:19:07 IN LOOKING AT THE OVERLAY AREA, AND I HAVE GOT A NUMBER OF

14:19:12 AERIALS, HOPEFULLY THIS IS CLEAR ENOUGH.

14:19:14 I TRIED TO MAKE IT AS BIG AS I CAN.

14:19:16 YOU WILL SEE A BIG RED PLACARD, 2423 WEST STATE STREET.

14:19:22 WHEN YOU LOOK AT 25, 2119, ENTIRE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD,

14:19:27 ALL USES STATE STREET OR CYPRESS STREET AS THE PRIMARY

14:19:31 VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.

14:19:32 IN FACT IN LOOKING AT THE -- THROUGH THE ALLEY, YOU SEE

14:19:36 NUMBER OF FENCES.

14:19:38 THIS ALLEY IS ON PLATT.

14:19:43 WE HAVE GOT PHOTOGRAPHS, AND IT WOULD BE HARD FOR COUNCIL TO

14:19:47 MAKE OUT.

14:19:47 YOU SHOULD SEE A TAPE MEASURE THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS




14:19:50 ALLEYWAY.

14:19:51 THE APPLICANTS HAVE ACTUALLY MEASURED APPORTION OF THE

14:19:54 ALLEY.

14:19:54 THIS MEASUREMENT WAS 7 FEET 1 INCH.

14:19:57 THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THE 9-FOOT THRESHOLD.

14:20:01 THIS IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PARCEL.

14:20:04 UNDERSTANDING WHAT MRS. SANCHEZ WILL HAVE TO DO WHEN SHE

14:20:09 PULLS INTO HER LOT, SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO -- IF COUNCIL UP

14:20:14 HOLD THIS AND DOES NOT GRANT IT, OVERTURN THE DESIGN

14:20:17 FINDING, SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A 90-DEGREE TURN

14:20:20 THROUGH ESSENTIALLY A 7-FOOT ALLEY TO GET ACCESS TO THIS

14:20:23 PROPERTY.

14:20:24 AND ONCE SHE HAS TO LEAVE SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BACK UP TO

14:20:27 THAT SAME ALLEYWAY AND TRY TO MAKE IT OUT WITHOUT DAMAGING

14:20:31 HER NEIGHBOR'S FENCE OR DAMAGING HER VEHICLE OR TEARING UP

14:20:35 THE LAWN. IN LOOKING JUST AT USE OF THIS AREA,

14:20:38 HISTORICALLY, THE CURRENT CODE REQUIRES A DESIGN EXCEPTION

14:20:44 JUST ON THE BASIS THAT A 7-FOOT AREA CANNOT PULL IN FOR A

14:20:50 DRIVEWAY AT THAT POINT.

14:20:52 A HONDA CIVIC, FOR EXAMPLE, STILL THAT TURN IS DIFFICULT TO

14:20:55 MAKE.

14:20:55 AS WE GO BACK TO THE ALLEYWAY, AND IT MUST MEET THE MINIMUM

14:21:01 STANDARDS REFERENCED IN 27-283.92.

14:21:05 WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT WHAT THAT REQUIRES, AND FOR THIS,

14:21:09 BECAUSE IT'S A 90-DEGREE TURN, HAS TO FIT THAT PARKING




14:21:12 REQUIREMENT, YOU ARE DEALING WITH -- I WILL TRY TO SHARE

14:21:16 THIS ON THE ELMO.

14:21:29 THIS IS THE OFF-STREET PARKING STANDARD.

14:21:32 BECAUSE IT'S A 90-DEGREE TURN THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN AISLE

14:21:35 WIDTH OF 24 FEET.

14:21:38 YOU DON'T HAVE THAT WIDTH WITHIN THE ALLEY.

14:21:40 JUST BASED ON THE ALLEY REQUIREMENT, IT DOESN'T MEET THE

14:21:42 MINIMUM STANDARDS AS REQUIRED BY ITS OWN CODE.

14:21:46 SO BECAUSE OF THAT IT'S WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THE DESIGN

14:21:51 EXCEPTION.

14:21:52 NOW, WE HAVE GONE -- AND THESE IMAGES ARE ALL FROM GOOGLE

14:21:56 EARTH.

14:21:56 WE ALSO PULLED THE STREET IMAGES.

14:22:00 THIS BUILDING WITH THE WHITE FRONTAGE, THAT'S THE SUBJECT.

14:22:05 THAT SUBJECT PARCEL WILL BE TORN DOWN AND REPLACED WITH OUR

14:22:08 PROPOSED DESIGN.

14:22:09 THE NEIGHBOR TO THE LEFT AND TO THE RIGHT BOTH USE STREET

14:22:12 ACCESS.

14:22:13 IN FACT, THE YELLOW, NEWER CONSTRUCTION HOME, UTILIZES A

14:22:18 U-SHAPED DRIVEWAY, WHICH IT ACCESSES THE STREET NOT ONE

14:22:23 POINT BUT TWO POINTS.

14:22:25 REGARD NOT ONLY DOES THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD USE THE

14:22:30 STREETS, BUT ACTUALLY SUPPORT MRS. SANTOS, HER PROPOSED

14:22:37 DESIGN EXCEPTION.

14:22:38 SHE'S GATHERED 15 SIGNATURES FROM THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS




14:22:41 THAT SAY THEY ARE ALL AGREEABLE.

14:22:43 AND THIS IS ATTACHED TO THE PETITION THAT WAS FILED TODAY

14:22:48 FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION REVIEW.

14:22:49 THESE ARE ALL OF HER NEIGHBORS.

14:22:50 AND 2421 STATE STREET, 2422 STATE STREET, 2424 STATE STREET,

14:22:58 ALL THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ACTUALLY SUPPORT THE

14:23:01 DESIGN EXCEPTION BY CONTINUING HISTORIC USE OF USING THE

14:23:04 STREET AND UTILIZING THAT STREET TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE FRONT

14:23:10 OF THE PROPERTY.

14:23:11 AS THE PRIOR APPLICANT INDICATED, THESE ALLEYS ARE TOO

14:23:15 NARROW FOR FIRE DEPARTMENTS, TOO NARROW FOR ANYONE TO USE

14:23:18 FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE

14:23:21 HISTORIC -- PART OF WHAT ABOUT R THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY

14:23:24 STANDS FOR, IS DESIGNED TO INCREASE SAFETY AND FURTHER THAT

14:23:28 END.

14:23:28 IF THE POLICE AREN'T EXPECTED TO GO DOWN AN ALLEYWAY TO

14:23:32 ACCESS SOMEONE'S HOME IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, HAVING

14:23:36 ESSENTIALLY EMERGENCY SERVICES ENTER THROUGH THE REAR OF A

14:23:39 BUILDING, IF THIS DESIGN EXCEPTION IS NOT GRANTED.

14:23:43 OF COURSE, I RESERVE THE ARREST OF MY TIME FOR REBUTTAL.

14:23:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU STILL GET REBUTTAL ANYWAY IF YOU

14:23:52 STAY WITHIN 15 MINUTES.

14:23:54 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME?

14:23:57 ALL RIGHT.

14:23:58 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




14:24:01 PUBLIC COMMENT.

14:24:02 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK?

14:24:04 IF NOT, I KNOW MRS. SANDY SANTOS IS ALSO REGISTERED FOR THIS

14:24:09 ITEM.

14:24:09 I SEE NO ONE HERE IN THE PUBLIC.

14:24:12 IF WE CAN GO TO SANDY SANCHEZ.

14:24:15 YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN SWORN IN SO PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA ON

14:24:19 AND STATE YOUR NAME.

14:24:20 YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.

14:24:21 >> ONE SECOND.

14:24:24 OKAY.

14:24:24 GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

14:24:26 MY NAME IS SANDY SANCHEZ.

14:24:28 I'M PRESIDENT OF THE GARDENS CIVIC ASSOCIATION, ALSO

14:24:32 HISTORIC COMMITTEE OF THE WEST TAMPA CRA, CSA, WORKING ON

14:24:36 THE EXISTING WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.

14:24:38 THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE CHANGES TO THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY

14:24:43 WERE TO MAKE STREETS SAFER FOR ALL USERS, ESPECIALLY THE

14:24:47 VULNERABLE POPULATION.

14:24:49 WHILE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, BLOBBING THE

14:24:52 SIDEWALK FORCES PEDESTRIANS AND CHILDREN TO USE THE STREETS.

14:24:55 AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNDER WENT TAMPA ALREADY HAVE NO

14:25:00 SIDEWALKS.

14:25:00 WHEN I FIRST GLANCED AT MRS. SANTOS CONTRACT PLANS, I

14:25:09 THOUGHT ANOTHER CONTRACTOR IS NOTE FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES




14:25:11 OF THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.

14:25:13 THERE IS NO ALLEY ACCESS.

14:25:14 THEN I LOOKED AGAIN.

14:25:17 HE DESIGNED THE DRIVEWAY SO THERE'S MORE THAN 35 FEET LONG

14:25:20 AND THE GARAGE IS FURTHER BACK ON THE PROPERTY.

14:25:25 ROOMS FOR CARS AND SIDEWALKS.

14:25:27 AS I SAID BEFORE, THE CHANGES TO THE WEST TAMPA CRA ARE

14:25:32 CONTINUING TO WORK WITH STAFF TO EXPAND THE LANGUAGE AND

14:25:35 PROVIDE OTHER SOLUTIONS SINCE WE REALIZED THAT ONE SIZE

14:25:40 FIGHTS ALL SOLUTION IS NOT PRACTICAL.

14:25:43 WE ARE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

14:25:46 MR. COLE LOAN THOUGHT OUT OF THE BOX AND HAS GIVEN US

14:25:52 ANOTHER OPTION.

14:25:52 WHILE THIS ALLEY IS CLEAR AND WIDE ENOUGH, WE FEEL THAT HE

14:25:56 HAS FULFILLED THE INTENT OF THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY BY

14:25:59 CREATING THIS DRIVEWAY TO KEEP THE CARS OFF THE STREET.

14:26:04 I PERSONALLY COMMEND MR. CO-LOAN FOR STUDYING HOMES THAT

14:26:10 APPEARS TO FULFILL THE INTENT OF MAKING OR STREETS SAFER.

14:26:14 IF THERE ARE NO OTHER EXCEPTIONS TO BE CONSIDERED, AND IT IS

14:26:17 THE DRIVEWAY IS AT LEAST 35 FEET LONG, IT APPEARS -- AS IT

14:26:22 APPEARS ON THE PLANS, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU ALLOW THE DESIGN

14:26:25 EXCEPTION FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2423 WEST STATE STREET, BUT

14:26:32 ONLY YOU UNDER THOSE EXCEPTIONS.

14:26:34 I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A COUPLE THINGS.

14:26:36 GENTLEMEN, WHEN THE APPLICANTS APPLY, THESE HOUSES WERE




14:26:45 BUILT IN 1930, 1940, OF COURSE WE ALL HAVE FRONT DRIVEWAYS.

14:26:51 BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS BUILT BACK THEN.

14:26:54 THE OLDER HOMES HAVE THE LONGER DRIVEWAYS, AND IT DOESN'T

14:26:59 APPEAR TO BE A PROBLEM.

14:27:00 IT'S THE NEWER HOMES THAT GIVE YOU THE SHORT DRIVEWAYS THAT

14:27:03 CAUSE THE CARS TO STICK OUT THAT THERE'S NO ROOM.

14:27:06 SO WHEN YOU ARE LISTENING TO THESE APPLICANTS THAT COME IN,

14:27:11 PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WHILE THEY ARE TALKING

14:27:15 ABOUT THEY ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE WHAT ARE GOING TO

14:27:18 BE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN ALLEY ACCESS, THEY ARE ALSO THE ONLY

14:27:21 PEOPLE ON THE BLOCK WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE A TWO-STORY HOUSE

14:27:24 WHICH IS ALSO DIFFERENT.

14:27:25 SO I ASK THAT YOU ALLOW THIS DESIGN EXCEPTION.

14:27:30 THANK YOU.

14:27:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:27:33 THAT'S THE ONLY REGISTERED SPEAKER.

14:27:34 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

14:27:37 NO?

14:27:37 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

14:27:42 I PROVIDED THE SAMPLE MOTIONS.

14:27:45 BUT BASED UPON THE AGENT'S PRESENTATION THAT THEY ARE NOT

14:27:50 GOING FORWARD REGARDING THE OVER-JUST CONFIRMED THAT ON THE

14:27:57 RECORD -- THEN FOR THE SAMPLE MOTION IF CITY COUNCIL COULD

14:27:59 WITHDRAW THAT CODE SECTION CONSIDERATION FOR THE MOTION.

14:28:05 AND THAT CODE SECTION SPECIFICALLY IS 27-241 SUBSECTION




14:28:11 2-C-7.

14:28:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALLEY ACCESS ONLY, CORRECT?

14:28:17 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: ALLEY ACCESS IS 241 SUBSECTION

14:28:20 2-C-5.

14:28:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE ARE TO ELIMINATE THAT FROM THE

14:28:24 MOTION.

14:28:26 >> ELIMINATE C-7.

14:28:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, SORRY.

14:28:29 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: IF YOU COULD CONFIRM THAT ON THE

14:28:32 RECORD, PLEASE.

14:28:32 >> YES, IF I WASN'T CLEAR BEFORE, WE ARE WITHDRAWING THE

14:28:35 24-INCH GRADE REQUIREMENT, THE C-7 EXCEPTION.

14:28:39 WE ARE WITHDRAWING THAT.

14:28:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

14:28:42 >> WE ARE ONLY PROCEEDING UNDER THE ALLEYWAY EXCEPTION.

14:28:46 THANK YOU, MRS. SANCHEZ, FOR HER SUPPORT.

14:28:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

14:28:52 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?

14:28:55 >> I WOULD NOTE SINCE IT WAS ALLUDED TO AND MRS. SANCHEZ

14:28:58 INDICATED THE DRIVEWAY DOES HAVE A 35-FOOT SETBACK, COULD

14:29:02 PUT FOUR CARS WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN MOST DESIGN FOR THE

14:29:05 WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.

14:29:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH ROOM FOR A SIDEWALK.

14:29:10 >> IT'S FAR ENOUGH FROM THE SETBACK TO ALLOW PEDESTRIAN

14:29:12 ACCESS AS WELL.




14:29:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?

14:29:16 >> THAT'S IT.

14:29:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE FROM GUDES AND CITRO.

14:29:21 ALL IN FAVOR?

14:29:22 ALL RIGHT.

14:29:23 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

14:29:29 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, GO AHEAD, SIR.

14:29:36 >>BILL CARLSON: CITY ATTORNEY, CORRECT ME IF I MISS

14:29:40 ANYTHING BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE

14:29:44 ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL, DESIGN EXCEPTION APPLICATION

14:29:50 D-1-22-05 L 50 BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAS MET THE NECESSARY

14:29:59 STANDARDS, THEY HAVE PROVIDED, IN ADDITION, PROVIDED

14:30:06 SUFFICIENT SPACE FOR FOUR CARS, AND ALSO PEDESTRIAN ACCESS,

14:30:10 AND ACCOMMODATING AN OLDER HOME.

14:30:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

14:30:15 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

14:30:17 ALL IN FAVOR?

14:30:19 ANY OPPOSED?

14:30:21 ALL RIGHT.

14:30:22 YOU ARE GOOD.

14:30:23 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:30:23 WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A 5-MINUTE RECESS SO WE CAN GET STAFF

14:30:26 AND HAVE BEEN ELSE SITUATED BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH THE

14:30:29 AGENDA.

14:30:29 AND THEN WE WILL BE BACK.




14:30:31 THANKS.

14:30:32 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS).

14:30:34

14:44:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.

14:45:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

14:45:04 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.

14:45:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

14:45:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

14:45:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

14:45:11 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

14:45:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME BACK.

14:45:14 WE HAVE MR. JOHNSON TO PRESENT THE CITIZENS BUDGET.

14:45:21 >> I THINK IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I HAVE BEEN BEFORE

14:45:28 COUNCIL BUT THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

14:45:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

14:45:32 >> JOE JOHNSON, CHAIRMAN.

14:45:33 BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, CITIZENS BUDGET AND FINANCE

14:45:35 COMMITTEE.

14:45:38 TODAY, I AM HERE TO TOUCH ON WHAT OUR COMMITTEE IS GOING.

14:45:44 WE ALREADY KNOW WHERE WE HAVE BEEN, BUT WE WANT TO DISCUSS

14:45:47 WHERE WE ARE GOING, AND WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE

14:45:52 ADMINISTRATION, WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, MAINLY THE BUDGET

14:45:55 DEPARTMENT, AND ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

14:45:57 SO WITH THAT, THE COMMITTEES MET YESTERDAY AS WE DO ON A

14:46:02 MONTHLY BASIS, AND WE DISCUSS SOME OF THE PROCESSES THAT




14:46:06 HAVE BEEN IN PLACE AS PERTAINS -- (AUDIO DROP)

14:46:23 CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THE PUBLIC, AND MEET WITH DEPARTMENTS

14:46:26 WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE BUDGET PRESENTATION THAT THE MAYOR

14:46:29 PUTS OUT.

14:46:30 SO THAT WAY, WE ARE NOT CATCHING UP, WE ARE NOT CATCHING UP

14:46:35 FROM BEHIND, WE ARE COMING IN FROM BEHIND, WE ARE ACTUALLY

14:46:39 ON TARGET IN STEP WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, AS PERTAINS TO BE

14:46:42 RECOMMENDATIONS.

14:46:43 SO THAT MEANS THAT ORIGINALLY WE ASK TO MEET QUARTERLY WITH

14:46:52 THE DEPARTMENTS TO DISCUSS PROJECTS THEY ARE WORKING ON

14:46:55 CURRENTLY AND PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE COMING UP IN THE

14:46:57 FUTURE, FORECAST IN THE FUTURE.

14:46:58 SO WE THINK WE FEEL THAT IT IS BEST WHEN STAFF AND THE

14:47:05 BUDGET OFFICE IS CONSTRUCTING THE NEW FISCAL YEAR BUDGET

14:47:09 THAT WE BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS SO THAT WAY WE CAN ASK

14:47:12 QUESTIONS AND RECEIVE THE ANSWERS AND WE CAN FORM BETTER

14:47:17 RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.

14:47:18 SO I THINK THAT -- I FEEL THAT MYSELF AND CFO ROGER O, WE

14:47:26 ARE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT, AND I THINK WITH MR.

14:47:30 SHELBY'S INPUT AND ALSO MR. MASSEY, I THINK THAT EVERYBODY

14:47:33 IS ALIGNED.

14:47:34 BUT I DID HAVE A QUESTION, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BE ANY

14:47:38 CONFUSION.

14:47:39 I KNOW THERE'S A RESOLUTION THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE THAT

14:47:42 FORMED THIS COMMITTEE BACK IN 2008 BUT TODAY THIS CURRENT




14:47:47 COUNCIL, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION OF THIS

14:47:50 COUNCIL AS PERTAINS TO THE BUDGET AND FINANCE, THE CITIZENS

14:47:54 BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE?

14:47:56 WHAT IS YOUR EXPECTATIONS OF US AS PERTAINS TO THIS PROCESS?

14:48:01 THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP DURING OUR MEETING

14:48:04 YESTERDAY.

14:48:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY QUESTION TO MYSELF WHEN YOU FIRST

14:48:15 TOOK IT IN, I AM NOT FOR OR AGAINST ANYTHING OF ANY KIND,

14:48:19 BUT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AS ALWAYS RECEIVED OUTSTANDING

14:48:23 REVIEWS FROM US AND OTHER AGENCIES DURING THE COURSE THAT I

14:48:28 HAVE BEEN HERE.

14:48:28 SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR, I GUESS IS YOUR QUESTION?

14:48:32 >> CORRECT.

14:48:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND I AM LOOKING FOR WE HAVE INTERNAL

14:48:37 AUDITORS, WE HAVE EXTERNAL AUDITORS, AND NEVER FOUND A

14:48:39 MISTAKE AT ALL THAT I KNOW OF, ANYWAY, IN THE SYSTEM WE HAVE

14:48:43 IN PLACE.

14:48:44 SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR COMMITTEE WANTS OR WHAT YOU ARE

14:48:47 LOOKING FOR.

14:48:47 >> WELL, AGAIN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION, THE

14:48:52 RESOLUTION WAS CLEAR AS PERTAINS TO THE FUNCTION OF THIS

14:48:56 COMMITTEE, AND THAT IS TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET, LOOK AT THE

14:49:01 BUDGET, MEET WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, AND MAKE SOUND ECONOMICAL

14:49:06 RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.

14:49:09 I THINK THAT OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS -- AND NO SLIGHT TO MY




14:49:14 PREDECESSOR -- BUT I BELIEVE THAT OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS

14:49:17 UNDER MY GUIDANCE AS CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE DONE THAT, BUT IN

14:49:20 DOING SO, AND I LIKE TO SAY I'M A STRAIGHT SHOOTER.

14:49:25 YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE FOR IT, SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT FOR

14:49:29 IT.

14:49:29 SO AGAIN THIS IS A COUNCIL COMMITTEE.

14:49:32 THAT'S WHERE THE QUESTION WAS RAISED, WHAT IS THE

14:49:35 EXPECTATION?

14:49:36 ARE WE TO STICK WITH THE RESOLUTION AND DO JUST THAT?

14:49:41 OR ARE WE TO ATTAR IT IN ANOTHER WAY AND MOVE IN A DIFFERENT

14:49:45 DIRECTION?

14:49:48 SO I WAS CLEAR ON THE RESOLUTION, BUT --

14:49:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME EITHER WAY.

14:49:56 >> BUT I THINK MOVING FORWARD, I THINK STILL MOVING FORWARD,

14:49:59 YOU KNOW, WE SAT DOWN.

14:50:01 IF THE ADMINISTRATION THINKS -- THEY HAVE ALLOWED THEIR

14:50:04 DEPARTMENT HEADS TO COME AND MEET WITH US.

14:50:06 SOMETIMES IT COULD BE A LITTLE HEATED AS WE TRY TO GET

14:50:09 INFORMATION, AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE LIKE IT, SOME PEOPLE

14:50:13 DON'T.

14:50:14 BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED

14:50:16 A LOT OF GREAT THINGS THIS COUNCIL, AND SOME THINGS WE CAN

14:50:30 IMPROVE UPON, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THE COMMITTEE,

14:50:32 ADMINISTRATION, COUNCIL COMMITTEE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE

14:50:35 AND WE UNDERSTAND --




14:50:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND I AM NOT TRYING QUESTION YOU, BUT WHAT

14:50:40 IS IT YOU THINK YOU CAN IMPROVE UPON?

14:50:44 >> THAT WE CAN IMPROVE UPON?

14:50:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.

14:50:47 >> I DON'T THINK THAT THE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, HAS THINGS

14:50:50 THAT NEED TO IMPROVE UPON.

14:50:52 I THINK IT'S THE PROCESS OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT COUNCIL

14:51:02 AND THE ADMINISTRATION.

14:51:03 BECAUSE THERE ARE TIMES WHERE THERE IS A DISCONNECT.

14:51:06 AND THERE'S A DISCONNECT IN THE INFORMATION THAT WE OBTAIN,

14:51:10 AND THAT WE CAN SAY.

14:51:12 SOME PEOPLE LIKE IT ASSOCIATION PEOPLE DON'T.

14:51:15 SO TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE ARE DOING WHAT COUNCIL EXPECTS OF

14:51:26 US.

14:51:27 WE JUST WANT TO IMPROVE UPON THE RECEIVING PROCESS.

14:51:31 SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ADDRESSING HERE.

14:51:34 BUT AGAIN, I HAVE HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH THE CFO, AND I

14:51:37 THINK THAT MOVING FORWARD I THINK THE DRAIN WILL MOVE IN THE

14:51:47 RIGHT DIRECTION.

14:51:48 AND WE AGREE TO DISAGREE.

14:51:50 IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL.

14:51:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M NOT PERSONAL ANYTHING.

14:51:57 EVEN IF IT FALLS IN THE CENTER, I'M HAPPY.

14:52:00 I'M HAPPY THE WAY IT WAS, AND GETTING THE BENEFIT TO THE

14:52:04 CITY AND THE TAXPAYERS.




14:52:05 SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS, I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND -- I

14:52:08 UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT PUTTING IT THROUGH THE

14:52:11 CONCEPTUAL CONCEPT OF WHAT'S GOING ON, HAVE YOU FOUND

14:52:15 ANYTHING AT ALL THAT IS AGAINST ANY MEASUREMENTS OF

14:52:20 FINANCING IRREGULARITIES?

14:52:23 >> WELL, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE

14:52:29 OF MONTHS AGO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A MEMO THAT WAS BASED ON

14:52:35 INFORMATION AND HAVING A MEETING WITH A CERTAIN DEPARTMENT,

14:52:38 AND IT RUFFLED A LITTLE FEATHERS, OKAY.

14:52:44 WE HAVE YET TO REALLY DISCUSS THAT.

14:52:46 SO RIGHT NOW, AT THIS MEETING, I WILL NOT DISCUSS THAT,

14:52:54 OKAY.

14:52:56 I WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN WITH CHIEF OF STAFF AND -- THE

14:53:01 CHAIRMAN OF COUNCIL AND ALSO THE CFO AND REVIEW IT, BECAUSE

14:53:04 MAYBE THERE'S AN EXPANSION FOR IT.

14:53:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:53:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO AND COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:53:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU SAID YOU WANT TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS

14:53:24 AND THAT'S WHAT THE ADVISORY BOARD IS, IS PART OF THE

14:53:26 PROCESS.

14:53:27 BUT YOUR STATEMENT WAS YOU WANT TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS.

14:53:29 ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL MAKING OF THE BUDGET?

14:53:33 OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT WHEN THE BUDGET IS

14:53:36 FINISHED, YOUR COMMITTEE OVERLOOKS IT, AND THEN COMES BACK

14:53:42 WITH REPORTS TO US TO SEE IF MAYBE WE ARE WANTING TO ADD




14:53:46 SOMETHING OR DETRACT SOMETHING FROM THAT BUDGET.

14:53:49 WHICH PART OF THE PROCESS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU

14:53:51 WANT TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN?

14:53:53 >> SO IN ORDER FOR US TO MAKE SOUND RECOMMENDATIONS TO

14:53:55 COUNCIL, IN YEARS PAST WE HAVE ALWAYS MET AROUND MAY OR

14:54:00 JUNE.

14:54:01 AND AT THAT TIME, THE BUDGET IS PRETTY MUCH CONSTRUCTED.

14:54:05 AM I SAFE TO SAY THAT, CHIEF?

14:54:08 OKAY.

14:54:09 SO ONCE THE PROCESS STARTS, WE ARE REALLY NOT SEEING WHAT IS

14:54:16 ACTUALLY IN THE BUDGET, OKAY, WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE THAT THE

14:54:20 ADMINISTRATION IS ASKING FOR, UNTIL AFTER THE MAYOR

14:54:22 PRESENTS.

14:54:23 SO ONCE THE MAYOR PRESENTS, WILL HAVE PRESENTED IN THE PAST,

14:54:27 THEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT PREVIOUS YEAR'S BUDGET AND WE LOOK AT

14:54:31 WHAT THE NEW FISCAL YEAR BUDGET IS GOING TO BE AND THEN WE

14:54:34 SIT DOWN AND WE DISCUSS PRIOR FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET AND

14:54:38 UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET AND TRY AND MAKE THE BEST

14:54:41 DECISION POSSIBLE AS PERTAINS TO RECOMMENDATIONS.

14:54:44 SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS, ON A YEAR OVER YEAR BASIS GOING

14:54:49 FORWARD WITH THIS COMMITTEE, WHETHER I AM ON THIS COMMITTEE

14:54:51 OR WHOEVER IS ON THIS COMMITTEE, THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS TO

14:54:56 KIND OF BE INVOLVED IN SOMEWHAT OF THAT PROCESS, AND THAT'S

14:55:00 WHERE MEETING QUARTERLY OR MONTHLY WITH DEPARTMENTS TO KIND

14:55:04 OF SEE WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE CURRENTLY AND WHAT THE NUMBERS




14:55:07 ARE LOOKING FOR COMING UP.

14:55:10 SO EVERY YEAR -- GO AHEAD.

14:55:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE PROCESS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS YOU THE

14:55:16 CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD WANTS TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS OF

14:55:21 CREATING THIS BUDGET.

14:55:24 >> NO.

14:55:25 NO, WE DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF THE CREATION OF THE BUDGET.

14:55:27 WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AS TO -- SO WHEN

14:55:32 YOU LOOK AT A BUDGET FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, YOU ARE

14:55:35 CONSTANTLY MONITORING YOUR BALANCE SHEET EVERY YEAR, EVERY

14:55:38 MONTH, RIGHT?

14:55:40 SO BASICALLY, EVERY EARMARKED DOLLAR THAT THE ADMINISTRATION

14:55:45 HAS EARMARKED FOR A PROJECT, OR FOR A CONTRACTUAL SERVICE,

14:55:50 WHATEVER SERVICES IS OUT THERE, YOU STILL HAVE TO ACCOUNT

14:55:52 FOR WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING, AND WHAT'S COMING IN, RIGHT?

14:55:57 SO NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU NEED TO SET YOUR

14:56:01 BUDGET LEVELS AT, OKAY?

14:56:05 SO THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, WHEN I LOOK AT THE

14:56:08 SCOPE OF WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BUDGET AND FINANCE, YOU ARE

14:56:11 LOOKING AT NUMBERS, YOUR JOB IS TO MONITOR AND MAKE SURE

14:56:18 THAT EITHER WE ARE ON TARGET, BELOW TARGET OR ABOVE IT.

14:56:24 AND IF YOU ARE ABOVE IT, WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION OF IT?

14:56:28 SO WE DON'T WANT TO TELL THE ADMINISTRATION WHAT TO DO.

14:56:31 WE WANT TO LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE AT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE

14:56:34 SOUND DECISIONS AS PERTAINS TO THE ECONOMICS OF YOUR




14:56:38 DECISIONS WHEN IT COMES TO APPROVING THAT PROCESS.

14:56:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY NEXT POINT, AT WHAT PART OF THE PROCESS

14:56:46 IS YOUR BOARD GOING TO COME BACK WITH THE ADVISORS THAT WE

14:56:51 SELECTED TO YOUR BOARD, GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY,

14:56:56 COUNCILPERSON, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE DONE WITH THIS

14:57:00 BUDGET?

14:57:01 IS THIS GOING TO BE AFTER THE BUDGET?

14:57:03 IS THIS GOING TO BE DURING THE PROCESS OF THE MAKING OF THE

14:57:05 BUDGET?

14:57:07 AT WHAT POINT --

14:57:09 >> OF THE BUDGET BEING CONSTRUCTED.

14:57:12 SO PROBABLY RIGHT TOWARDS -- I WOULD SAY THE MIDDLE OR THE

14:57:15 END.

14:57:16 BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY ON A QUARTERLY BASIS

14:57:20 OR MONTHLY BASIS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CURRENT FISCALS AND

14:57:23 LOOKING AT WHAT THEIR PROJECTIONS ARE GOING TO THE NEW

14:57:27 FISCAL YEAR THAT GIVES US A BETTER IDEA AND UNDERSTANDING AS

14:57:30 TO WHERE THE BUDGET IS GOING TO BE GOING, FOR THE NEXT

14:57:33 FISCAL YEAR.

14:57:34 SO YOU LOOK AT YOUR PROJECTIONS, AND YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME

14:57:40 INDIVIDUALLY, CAN COME TO YOU AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT THE

14:57:44 ADMINISTRATION IS THINKING, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS, AND SO

14:57:48 ON.

14:57:48 THESE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

14:57:52 DID I ANSWER THE QUESTION?




14:57:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES AND NO.

14:57:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:57:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME GOOD PEOPLE

14:58:00 THAT WORKED OFTEN THIS COMMITTEE.

14:58:02 WHAT I CAN SAY MR. JOHNSON IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID, I

14:58:05 MEAN THE BROAD EVERYONE IN THE CITY SAID YOU HAVE DONE A

14:58:09 HELL OF A JOB FOR TWO YEARS, MY FRIEND.

14:58:11 THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE SAY WHO ARE WATCHING.

14:58:15 I SELECTED YOU TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE, BUT WHAT THE PEOPLE

14:58:18 SAY.

14:58:21 I KNOW YOU ARE A FINANCE GUY.

14:58:23 I KNOW YOU ARE A MONEY GUY.

14:58:24 THAT'S WHY I SAID, YOU NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE ON THAT BOARD,

14:58:28 NOT JUST BECAUSE OF A FRIEND BUT PEOPLE WHO KNOW MONEY, WHO

14:58:31 KNOW BUDGETS.

14:58:33 JUST HAVING SOMEBODY ON THE BOARD WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO

14:58:37 SPREADSHEETS, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO REALLY ORGANIZE.

14:58:41 YOU ARE WASTING THE TIME, AND WASTING THE TIME WITH

14:58:43 COMMITTEE.

14:58:44 I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE COMMITTEE,

14:58:46 BECAUSE FINDING OUT THE COMMITTEE WAS NOT OPERATING THE WAY

14:58:51 THE SHOULD HAVE OPERATED.

14:58:54 SO THAT BROUGHT A LIGHT ON THE COMMITTEE.

14:58:58 AND TO GET THINGS TO WHERE I BELIEVE THE RESOLUTION WAS

14:59:01 INTENDED FOR.




14:59:02 WHEN I LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION, WHEN I LOOK AT THE COMMITTEE

14:59:07 WANTED, IT'S REALLY OVERSIGHT.

14:59:10 >> YES.

14:59:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OVERSIGHT OF WHAT WE ARE SPENDING WHAT WE

14:59:14 ARE DOING, HOW WE ARE SPENDING OUR MONEY ON PROJECTS AND

14:59:17 WHAT WHATEVER, EXPECTATIONS TO THIS COUNCIL.

14:59:20 AND WE LOOK AT WHAT THE BUDGET FINANCE COMMITTEE, AS

14:59:26 ADVISORS, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE STAFF TO GO SEE WHAT CHIEF

14:59:31 OF STAFF IS DOING OR ANYBODY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT STAFF LIKE

14:59:35 OTHERS MIGHT HAVE STAFF THAT CAN GIVE US INFORMATION, SO

14:59:37 THEY ARE DOING IT BUT WE DON'T AGREE WITH IT.

14:59:40 EACH CHARLIE SAID WE SHOULD HAVE -- THE BUDGET ANALYSIS.

14:59:48 SO THE CHARTER ABOUT NOT HAVING THAT PERSON TO TELL US WHAT

14:59:53 WE NEED TO BE DOING AND WHAT WE DON'T.

14:59:56 SO WE ARE VIOLATING OUR OWN RULE.

15:00:00 THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL.

15:00:02 THAT'S WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS.

15:00:04 WHEN I LOOK AT OVERSIGHT, I LOOKED AT THE BUDGET, THE

15:00:08 COMMITTEE TO TALK -- WE HAD A MEETING, RIGHT WHEN THE

15:00:13 COMMITTEE SAID, WE BELIEVE IT MAY BE OUT OF BOUNDS.

15:00:16 THEY MAY BE DOING A GREAT JOB AT GETTING AWARDS AND

15:00:19 EVERYTHING BUT STILL SOMETIMES INTERNALLY WE COULD BE A

15:00:21 LITTLE BETTER BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BE DOING THINGS WAY BETTER

15:00:24 THAN OTHER PEOPLE ARE, YOU ARE DOING THINGS BETTER THAN

15:00:27 OTHERS DO.




15:00:28 THAT'S THE WAY THINGS GO.

15:00:33 AGAIN, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, THE WAY I SEE IT, IS A

15:00:39 RESOLUTION, AND THIS COMMITTEE IS AN OVERSIGHT OF THE CITY,

15:00:44 AND TO GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS, SOUND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS

15:00:46 COUNCIL FOR SUPPORT OR NOT TO SUPPORT.

15:00:49 SO THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT -- I WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE ON WHAT I

15:00:55 JUST SAID, BUT THAT'S WHAT I READ IT.

15:00:57 THAT'S HOW I TAKE IT.

15:00:58 >> WHEN YOU READ THE RESOLUTION, THE RESOLUTION IS VERY

15:01:02 CLEAR.

15:01:02 I MEAN, I HAVE READ THE RESOLUTION PROBABLY ABOUT TEN TIMES.

15:01:09 I ALSO LOOKED AT THE ORDINANCE AS IT PERTAINS TO THE BUDGET,

15:01:12 AS IT PERTAINS TO COUNCIL.

15:01:17 BEING IN CONTROL OF THE BUDGET UNTIL THE BUDGET FOR THE

15:01:20 UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

15:01:23 EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS CORRECT.

15:01:26 BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S RECOMMENDATIONS AT TIMES

15:01:33 THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS MADE TO COUNCIL AND, YOU KNOW,

15:01:37 COUNCIL ITSELF HAS, YOU KNOW, OVERLOOKED, AND I WILL JUST

15:01:42 GIVE AN EXAMPLE.

15:01:44 THIS CITY IS GROWING.

15:01:46 IT'S GROWING TREMENDOUSLY.

15:01:48 THE CENSUS SAID THE CITY IS GROWING, IT GREW 25%.

15:01:53 BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY OF

15:01:56 TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, CENSUS DATA CAME, IT'S POSTED,




15:02:06 BUT THE CITY IS CONSTANTLY GROWING.

15:02:08 SO IT SAYS WE GREW 25%, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, IF YOU JUST LOOK

15:02:13 AT IT.

15:02:14 WE ARE PROBABLY AT ABOUT, I WOULD SAY, 37 TO 44%.

15:02:18 WITH THAT, WE TALK ABOUT JUST WHAT YOU SAID.

15:02:22 YOU KNOW, MAKING SOUND RECOMMENDATIONS.

15:02:25 ONE.

15:02:25 RECOMMENDATIONS WE MADE WAS AN EXPANSION OF THE CITY

15:02:29 COUNCIL'S BUDGET.

15:02:30 WE RECOMMENDED IT AS A COMMITTEE.

15:02:32 THERE IS A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT WE RECOMMENDED.

15:02:37 BUT IT'S UP TO THIS COUNCIL TO LISTEN.

15:02:41 YOU CAN HAVE THE COMMITTEE, BUT WHEN COMMITTEE MEMBERS MAKE

15:02:45 THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL, SOUND RECOMMENDATIONS,

15:02:50 IT'S UP TO YOU TO REALLY DIGEST IT AND DISCUSS IT AMONGST

15:02:56 COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EITHER SAY YAY OR NAY INSTEAD OF JUST

15:03:01 SAYING NAY IN THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT.

15:03:05 WE RECOMMENDED THAT YOUR BUDGET BE EXPANDED, AND IN THE SPUR

15:03:09 OF THE MOMENT THERE WAS A FEW COUNCILMEN WHO SAID ABSOLUTELY

15:03:13 NOT.

15:03:15 SO WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION OF

15:03:18 THIS COMMITTEE, AS IT PERTAINS TO THE BUDGET AND FINANCE

15:03:21 COMMITTEE, I ASKED THAT QUESTION BASED ON PAST

15:03:25 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE MADE.

15:03:27 RECOMMENDATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO SPENDING MONEY, EVERYONE




15:03:31 APPROVES.

15:03:31 RECOMMENDING CERTAIN -- ON CERTAIN ITEMS, IT'S BEEN NO, NAY,

15:03:44 WITHOUT REALLY TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHY WE MADE THOSE

15:03:49 RECOMMENDATIONS AND ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS, WHY DID YOU FEEL

15:03:53 THE NEED TO?

15:03:56 SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT QUESTION,

15:03:58 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:03:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M JUST THINKING TO MYSELF, IF I IN ANY

15:04:03 WAY -- MAYBE A PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH MYSELF IS THAT I

15:04:08 MAYBE FEEL THAT WORTH $75 A WEEK AND I LIKE TO GIVE WHATEVER

15:04:16 I HAVE TO SOCIETY AND TO WHATEVER I CAN AFFORD.

15:04:19 HOWEVER, WHEN YOU WERE EXPLAINING, YOU TALKED IN PERSON

15:04:22 ABOUT THE NUMBERS, 2022 AND YOU GO LOOK AT THE 2023 BUDGET,

15:04:29 SO LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, AM I CORRECT WHAT YOUR STATEMENT

15:04:32 WAS?

15:04:32 >> CORRECT.

15:04:33 YOU WANT TO LOOK AND SEE HOW THE NUMBERS ARE TRENDING.

15:04:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEN WE WENT FROM THAT TO ADDING STAFF.

15:04:40 >> NO.

15:04:43 WHAT I AM SAYING IS WHEN WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS,

15:04:46 INSTEAD OF BEING QUICK ON CERTAIN THINGS, INSTEAD OF BEING

15:04:51 QUICK TO SAY NO, WHICH WAS DONE, YOU KNOW, THIS PAST YEAR,

15:04:54 BECAUSE IT CAME ABOUT FOUR WEEKS AGO AS PERTAINS TO YOUR

15:04:59 BUDGET BEING INCREASED, AND IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED THAT WE

15:05:02 HAD MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION AS A COMMITTEE.




15:05:05 BUT WHEN YOU GO BACK AND SAY THAT BASICALLY YOU HAVE -- I

15:05:14 DID NOT MEAN TO OFFEND ANYONE, BUT AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO

15:05:17 COLLABORATION AND COOPERATION.

15:05:21 YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE AS APPOINTEES, AND AS VOLUNTEERS TO DO

15:05:25 A JOB THAT BASICALLY THE CITY ORDINANCE AND YOUR RESOLUTION

15:05:32 OR THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE A BUDGET ANALYST

15:05:34 TO DO ALL OF THAT.

15:05:36 BUT INSTEAD OF HAVING A PAID ANALYST YOU HAVE AN ADVISORY

15:05:39 COMMITTEE TO BASICALLY FILL THAT ROLE OF THAT BUDGET

15:05:42 ANALYST.

15:05:43 AND IF WE WERE A STAFF MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL, WOULD YOU

15:05:49 HAVE LISTENED TO WHAT THAT BUDGET ANALYST SAID VERSUS

15:05:52 LISTENED TO WHAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE, WHICH IS YOUR ADVISORY

15:05:56 COMMITTEE?

15:05:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU, AT THE SAME MOMENT

15:05:59 I'M HESITANT TO SAY THAT YOU ARE 100% CORRECT, BECAUSE EVEN

15:06:03 IF WE HAD A BUDGET ANALYST, THE SAME WAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.

15:06:08 EVEN IF YOU HIRE A BUDGET ANALYST THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE

15:06:11 TO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE OR SHE SAID.

15:06:14 THAT'S WHY I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE

15:06:16 SOMEONE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE ADVICE OF ANYONE,

15:06:20 INCLUDING MYSELF TO MYSELF.

15:06:21 THANK YOU.

15:06:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:06:23 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, COUNCILMAN VIERA.




15:06:25 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU ALSO.

15:06:29 I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS ABOUT YOU AND THE

15:06:31 COMMITTEE.

15:06:31 SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND EVERYONE ELSE HAS

15:06:35 DONE.

15:06:35 I READ THE CHARTER AGAIN LAST NIGHT.

15:06:37 CLEARLY IT SHOWS THAT WE HAVE APPROVAL OVER THE BUDGET.

15:06:40 AND THE MAYOR PRESENTS A BUDGET, AND WE APPROVE IT.

15:06:43 BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THE CHARTER WAS EVER MEANT AS A RUBBER

15:06:47 STAMP, AND WE SHOULDN'T BE SEEING THE BUDGET AT THE LAST

15:06:52 MINUTE AND APPROVING IT WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT'S IN IT.

15:06:55 I JUST THINK THE SUMMARY LAST YEAR WAS LIKE 138 PAGES WHICH

15:06:59 I THINK WE ALL READ BUT THE LONGER VERSION IS LIKE A

15:07:02 THOUSAND PAGES.

15:07:02 SO HAVING A SECOND SET OF EYES TO LOOK AT IT IS HELPFUL, AND

15:07:07 ALSO THERE ARE THREE THINGS THAT I THINK THIS COMMITTEE

15:07:11 SHOULD BE LOOKING, TO GET A SECOND OPINION, SECOND IS TO

15:07:15 FIND WAYS TO SAVE MONEY, AND THIRD IS TO HAVE THE COUNCIL

15:07:18 PERSPECTIVE.

15:07:19 ON THE SECOND OPINION, WE ARE PRESENTED BY STAFF, BUT IT'S

15:07:25 GREAT TO HAVE VOLUNTEERS, ESPECIALLY WITH EXPERTISE LIKE

15:07:29 YOURS TO BE LOOK AT IT AND JUST TELL US WHAT YOU THINK.

15:07:32 YOU MIGHT SEE THINGS AND YOU HAVE.

15:07:36 AND YOU ARE ABLE TO GET MUCH MORE IN-DEPTH, COMMITTEE

15:07:39 BRIEFINGS AND EVERYTHING.




15:07:40 NUMBER TWO IS WAYS TO SAVE MONEY.

15:07:44 YOU ALL FOUND SOME WAYS TO SAVE MONEY THAT YOU SUGGESTED,

15:07:47 AND ANY ADMINISTRATION SHOULD NOT TAKE THAT AT CRITICAL.

15:07:54 IT'S JUST ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK.

15:07:56 CLEARLY FROM THE SCHEDULING WE HAD LAST WEEK, WE NEED TO PUT

15:07:58 SOME PARAMETERS AROUND THE CCNA PROCESS.

15:08:03 HANNA AVENUE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT OUT FOR BID, AND THAT'S

15:08:06 SOMETHING, KNOW HO KNOWS WE COULD HAVE SAVED, MILLIONS OF

15:08:09 DOLLARS PROBABLY?

15:08:10 TOILET TO TAP, IF WE DON'T DO THAT WE'LL SAVE BILLIONS OF

15:08:13 DOLLARS.

15:08:14 SO THERE'S FISCAL IMPACT ON ALL THESE THINGS.

15:08:17 NUMBER THREE, THE COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE, JUST LIKE WE HAVE A

15:08:22 CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, WE SHOULD HAVE THE BUDGET ADVISER,

15:08:24 BUT IN LIEU OF THAT WE HAVE YOU A ALL AS VOLUNTEERS TO LOOK

15:08:29 AT IT AND IT'S GOOD TO HAVE EYES AND EARS.

15:08:33 IF THE STAFF -- IT'S NOT THAT ANYBODY DID ANYTHING WRONG,

15:08:38 BUT THEY ARE WORKING FOR THE MAYOR.

15:08:40 AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU FOUND LAST YEAR WAS $70 MILLION OF

15:08:43 SLUSH FUNDS.

15:08:43 AND I THINK REJECTED TO THAT TERM BUT WAS MONEY STASHED AWAY

15:08:47 THAT I THINK WE WOULD HAVE RATHER BE APPLIED TO PARKS OR

15:08:52 SIDEWALKS OR SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT CONSTITUENTS -- THE

15:08:57 CONSTITUENTS COMPLAINING ABOUT THINGS, AND I THINK THIS

15:09:00 ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN WORKING A LOT BETTER WITH US THAN




15:09:03 THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, BUT WE HAVE GOT TO FIND WAYS TO

15:09:07 MORE EFFICIENTLY USE THE MONEY.

15:09:09 BUT FOR SURE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT US TO RAISE TAXES, AND

15:09:12 A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE UPSET BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE NEW HERE

15:09:15 DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE PERSON BEFORE THEM WAS HOMESTEADED

15:09:18 AND THEY ARE MAD BECAUSE THEY THINK WE RAISED OUR TAXES EVEN

15:09:22 THOUGH WE DIDN'T, AND PEOPLE ARE UPSET BECAUSE THE VALUES OF

15:09:26 THEIR HOMES HAVE GONE UP AND THEIR TAXES HAVE GONE UP.

15:09:28 I THINK IT'S OUR DUTY TO DO A FORENSIC AUDIT JUST SO WE HAVE

15:09:33 A SECOND OPINION.

15:09:34 I MEAN, BOARDS DO THAT WITH NONPROFITS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT

15:09:37 AGENCIES.

15:09:38 NOT THAT WE DON'T TRUST ANYBODY, BUT JUST HELPS EVERYBODY

15:09:42 FEEL COMFORTABLE.

15:09:43 THE LAST THING I WILL SAY IS THAT SINCE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE

15:09:47 APPROVAL, THE FINAL APPROVAL ON THE BUDGET, ONE OF THE

15:09:51 QUESTIONS EVERY MAYOR ASKS IS, THEY COME TO CITY COUNCIL AND

15:09:54 THEY SAY, WHAT DO YOU WANT?

15:09:57 WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM YOUR DISTRICT?

15:09:59 AND THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION FOR EVERY CITY COUNCIL

15:10:01 MEMBER SHOULD BE NOTHING, I DON'T WANT ANYTHING, AND THAT'S

15:10:04 WHAT I HAVE SAID FOR THREE YEARS.

15:10:06 I DON'T WANT ANYTHING FOR MY DISTRICT.

15:10:08 WHY?

15:10:09 BECAUSE ONCE YOU DO THAT, THE WAY SOME MAYORS DO IT IS THEY




15:10:14 GIVE YOU THAT, AND THEN THEY THINK THEY CONTROL YOUR VOTE

15:10:17 AFTER THAT.

15:10:17 WHY SHOULD YOU DO THAT, LIKE ORLANDO GUDES SAID A COUPLE

15:10:21 YEARS AGO, ASK FOR A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A PARK IN YOUR

15:10:24 DISTRICT.

15:10:24 IF HE HAD ASKED THE MAYOR FOR $200,000 FOR A PARK HE WOULD

15:10:27 HAVE TO NEGOTIATE BACK AND FORTH AND COME TO ASK CITY

15:10:29 COUNCIL FOR A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A PARK.

15:10:31 THEN HE DOESN'T HAVE TO GIVE UP ALL HIS OTHER VOTES FOR

15:10:34 HAVING NEGOTIATED THAT.

15:10:35 AND I THINK KNOWING MORE ABOUT THE BUDGET AND KNOWING ABOUT

15:10:37 OUR COLLEAGUES AND HOW WE WANT TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND HOW

15:10:40 THE BUDGET IS PUT TOGETHER, THERE'S A LOT OF POWER IN CITY

15:10:43 COUNCIL.

15:10:43 IT'S NOT THAT -- WE HAVE A STRONG MAYOR AND ALL THAT

15:10:46 TECHNICALLY KNEADS MEANS IS THAT THE MAYOR DOESN'T SIT ON

15:10:51 CITY COUNCIL.

15:10:51 IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE A DICTATORSHIP.

15:10:55 IF THE MAYOR ASKS US WHAT YOU WANT, IT SHOULD BE NO.

15:10:59 ASK CITY COUNCIL INSTEAD.

15:11:01 ASK CITY COUNCIL TO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET.

15:11:02 MAKE A MOTION TO CITY COUNCIL AND WE'LL SUPPORT EACH OTHER

15:11:04 AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO SELL OUR VOTES.

15:11:06 THANK YOU.

15:11:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.




15:11:08 >>LUIS VIERA: I APPRECIATE THAT.

15:11:09 AND I WANTED -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID SOME VERY GREAT

15:11:14 THINGS I AGREE WITH AND DISSENT ON THE I SHALL OF DISTRICTS

15:11:20 AND ASKING FOR FUNDS.

15:11:21 I WILL GIVE YOU TWO EXAMPLES AND MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE READ IT

15:11:24 DIFFERENT.

15:11:25 I AM JUST SPEAKING FOR LUIS VIERA HERE.

15:11:27 I REMEMBER FIRE STATION 13 AND HELPED FIRE STATION 13.

15:11:31 I APPROACHED THE ADMINISTRATION ON HELP FOR FIRE STATION 13.

15:11:35 I WORKED ON IT AND WORKED WITH JOE GRECO, THEN PRESIDENT OF

15:11:39 TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 754.

15:11:43 I EVEN DID A SPEND THE NIGHT AT STATION 13 TO ILLUSTRATE AND

15:11:46 PUT PRESSURE ON ALL STAKEHOLDERS ON HOW WE NEED ANOTHER FIRE

15:11:51 STATION, BECAUSE THAT'S THE BUSIEST FIRE STATION IN THE CITY

15:11:55 OF TAMPA, ONE OF THE 50th OR SO BUSY STATIONS IN THE

15:11:58 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

15:11:59 SO I WORKED TOWARDS THAT, BUILT TOWARDS THAT OVER A YEAR, A

15:12:03 LOT OF WORK, AND ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU TAKE ANOTHER ONE, THE

15:12:07 DISABILITY PARK.

15:12:08 THAT STARTED BACK IN 2017 AND I SAID, HEY, LOOK, I WOULD

15:12:16 LIKE TO HAVE $50,000 IN THE BUDGET FOR DESIGN FOR THAT PARK,

15:12:19 AND THEN I WILL LEAVE IT TO THE NEXT MAYOR TO WORK WITH IT.

15:12:22 WE GOT THAT IN.

15:12:23 IT DIDN'T GET IN THE BUDGET IN 19.

15:12:25 GOT PART OF IT IN 20, PART OF IN 21, TOOK ABOUT FOUR YEARS




15:12:30 OF LOBBYING.

15:12:31 I NEVER TRADED VOTES.

15:12:32 IT WAS SOMETHING FROM MY HEART.

15:12:34 AND TWO OF THE BIG ISSUES I FEEL A LOT ABOUT ARE FIRST

15:12:36 RESPONDERS AND DISABILITIES.

15:12:37 SO AGAIN, THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS, AND NOBODY IS RIGHT,

15:12:41 NOBODY IS WRONG, IT'S JUST MY WAY, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL.

15:12:44 SO IN THAT REGARD.

15:12:46 BUT I ALSO WANTED TO AGREE WITH WHAT A LOT OF FOLKS SAID

15:12:50 INCLUDING COUNCIL CARLSON, GUDES ANDS OTHERS ABOUT THE WORK

15:12:53 OF YOU ALL'S COMMITTEE THAT YOU WORK OBVIOUSLY, AND CORRECT

15:12:56 ME IF I AM WRONG, YOU DON'T GET PAID, RIGHT?

15:12:58 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

15:12:59 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IT'S OBVIOUS YOU PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO

15:13:01 IT SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.

15:13:03 WITHOUT A DOUBT.

15:13:04 YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER ONE TIME -- AND TO ILLUSTRATE THE VIEW

15:13:07 THAT I THINK OF THIS COMMITTEE SHOULD BE DOING, YOU GO BACK

15:13:10 TO OUR DISCUSSION IN 2017 ON THE MILLAGE, YOUR COMMITTEE,

15:13:17 HAD RECOMMENDED, I THINK, IT WAS .9 RAISE IN THE MILLAGE.

15:13:21 WE WOUND UP RAISING IT.475 I THINK IT WHATS THAT YEAR, BY

15:13:25 ONE VOTE.

15:13:25 IT WAS A 4-3 VOTE.

15:13:27 SO THIS COMMITTEE CAME OUT AND TASKED THEM WITH THE DUTY,

15:13:31 WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS WHEN IT PERTAINS TO FUTURE




15:13:33 REVENUE?

15:13:34 YOU ALL CAME OUT WITH A VERY CONTROVERSIAL POSITION THAT BY

15:13:36 THE WAY NO ONE ON COUNCIL EVER THOUGHT, I THINK WE BEGAN

15:13:40 WITH .6, IF I RECALL, IF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT.

15:13:44 SO IT IS UP TO YOU ALL TO GO OUT THERE AND BE TASKED WITH

15:13:48 THINGS.

15:13:48 ONE THING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU ALL TO DO CONSISTENT WITH

15:13:51 WHAT I SAID ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY IS ABOUT HOW DO WE GET MONEY

15:13:55 INTO THE BUDGET THROUGH VARIOUS MEANS FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY

15:13:59 NEEDS?

15:14:00 YOU SPOKE VERY WELL ABOUT THE FACT WE ARE A BIG GROWING CITY

15:14:03 AND WHATNOT.

15:14:04 WE HAVE OBVIOUS CHALLENGES IN NORTH AND NEW TAMPA, CONTINUES

15:14:07 TO HAVE CHALLENGES IN EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA WITH ALL THAT

15:14:10 WORKFORCE HOUSING CONTINUES TO GROW, WE ARE GOING TO NEED

15:14:13 MORE FIRE STATIONS AND POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE.

15:14:15 DOWNTOWN TAMPA, YOU SEE ALL THE GROWTH WE HAVE HAD IN 10 OR

15:14:18 12 YEARS.

15:14:19 NO NEW FIRE STATIONS THERE.

15:14:21 THE ISSUE IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO BUILD THAT BRIDGE

15:14:24 FINANCIALLY TO PAY FOR THE THINGS THAT WE NEED, NOT THAT WE

15:14:27 WANT.

15:14:27 THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE WANTS THAT WE NEED.

15:14:30 SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU ALL COULD WORK ON.

15:14:32 I WOULD SUGGEST WHICH IS TO LOOK AT PUBLIC SAFETY AND TO




15:14:35 LOOK AT HOW TO FUND THAT IN THE FUTURE.

15:14:37 WHAT CAN WE USE FOR THAT?

15:14:40 SO, IN OTHER WORDS, TO THE EXTENT THAT PEOPLE MAY DISAGREE,

15:14:43 BECAUSE I DID NOT SUPPORT THE IDEA OF ADDITIONAL FUNDS, HOW

15:14:45 MUCH MORE ARE YOU ALL ASKING FOR CITY COUNCIL?

15:14:47 >> WE WEREN'T ASKING FOR IT.

15:14:49 WE ARE RECOMMENDING.

15:14:51 >>LUIS VIERA: SO.

15:14:52 >> SO LET ME TOUCH ON YOUR STATEMENTS, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

15:14:55 YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DONE JUST THAT.

15:14:58 I BELIEVE THAT WHEN WE PRESENTED FOR FY 22, AT THE TIME,

15:15:05 CHAIRMAN GUDES ADVISED MYSELF, CHAIRMAN GUDES ADVISED MYSELF

15:15:11 AND CFO IN THE DEPARTMENT OFFICE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING

15:15:15 BOARD, AND WE DID THAT.

15:15:17 AND WHEN WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD WITH THE BUDGET

15:15:20 OFFICE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ASKED FOR WAS 2.6 MILLION OF

15:15:25 STAFF LEVEL INCREASES FOR THE CITY.

15:15:29 WE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL -- WE ACTUALLY SAID, TAKE THAT 5

15:15:34 MILLION OFF THE MONEY AND ALLOCATE IT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

15:15:38 SO WE WENT BACK AND WE MET WITH THE BUDGET OFFICER.

15:15:40 AND MR. PERRY IS NOT HERE, AND HE WANTS TO GET ON THE LINE,

15:15:45 BUT WE MET, AND MR. PERRY ACTUALLY CAME BACK AND SAID

15:15:48 INSTEAD OF 2.6 MILLION WE FOUND AN ADDITIONAL 3 MILLION, SO

15:15:53 WE CAN ADD INSTEAD OF 2.6 WE CAN DO 5 MONTE 6, ALL RIGHT?

15:15:58 AND THEN WHEN IT CAME TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN WE ASKED




15:16:01 FOR FIVE OF THE MONEY THAT WAS GOING TO SOLID WASTE,

15:16:05 REDIRECT IT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MR. PERRY CAME BACK AND

15:16:09 SAID IF OUR 14.8 MILLION OF FEDERAL AND STATE FUND.

15:16:13 SO WHEN IT COMES TO -- WE ARE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE

15:16:18 MILLION DOLLARS COUNCIL BUDGET INCREASING.

15:16:23 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- WHEN WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING AS A

15:16:28 COMMITTEE, AND WE DISCUSS IT, AND WHEN WE COME UP AND WE

15:16:32 PRESENT, THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE -- WE WENT THROUGH A

15:16:36 THOROUGH PROCESS TO ARRIVE AT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE

15:16:42 PRESENT TO COUNCIL.

15:16:43 AND IF YOU GO BACK TWO YEARS, WE HAVE ASKED WE HAVE STATED,

15:16:51 PD NEEDED TO UPGRADE THEIR FLEET.

15:16:53 IT'S AN EYESORE OUT ON THE STREET.

15:16:55 THEY SHOULD NOTE BE DRIVING AROUND OLD CROWN VICTORIAS.

15:16:59 SO WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE BODY CAMS, WE CAME AND

15:17:02 SAID, LET'S GET IT DONE.

15:17:05 SO WE ADVOCATE FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE SEE BECAUSE WE HAVE

15:17:09 DONE A DEEP DIVE.

15:17:10 I WOULDN'T SAY A DEEP DIVE.

15:17:11 WE HAVE DONE LEAN DIVES.

15:17:14 IF YOU ARE IN THE COMMUNITY WHICH I AM, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE

15:17:18 BEEN DOING, AND WE ARE TRYING TO DO MORE OF A DEEPER DIVE SO

15:17:21 WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AS IT PERTAINS TO HOW THE

15:17:25 ADMINISTRATION FORMULATES THEIR BUDGET AND COMES TO COUNCIL

15:17:29 AND SAYS, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.




15:17:34 SO RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE BEEN -- WE HAVE BEEN TRACKING, BUT WE

15:17:39 HAVEN'T BEEN TRACKING AT THE PACE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO,

15:17:43 AND IN ORDER TO MAKE THE BEST SOUND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS

15:17:47 COUNCIL, TO APPROVE THE BUDGET.

15:17:50 FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO OPERATE, WE NEED MORE TIME WITH THE

15:17:56 DEPARTMENTS, OR WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE, SO THAT WE CAN

15:17:59 UNDERSTAND HOW THEY ARE CONSTRUCTING THEIR BUDGET AS

15:18:03 PERTAINS TO THE ECONOMICS OF THE CITY.

15:18:05 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY.

15:18:08 AGAIN, I GUESS MY POINT ON THAT IS IF ANY OF US DISAGREE

15:18:11 WITH ANY OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, JUST LIKE COUNCIL MEMBERS

15:18:14 DISAGREED WITH THAT MILLAGE RATE, I PROMISE YOU, IT COMES

15:18:17 AFTER A LOT OF THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION, AS WELL AS, I HOPE

15:18:21 FROM ALL OF US, DIFFERENCE DEFERENCE TO THE TIME THAT YOU

15:18:23 ARE PUTTING IN WITHOUT COMPENSATION, WHICH WE ARE ALL

15:18:26 APPRECIATIVE FOR.

15:18:27 THANK YOU.

15:18:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.

15:18:34 AND I KNOW --

15:18:37 >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M STILL PRETTY NEW AT THIS BUT IF YOU ASK

15:18:40 WHAT I WANT, I THINK MR. VIERA, COUNCILMAN VIERA HAD A VERY

15:18:44 GOOD POINT OF YOUR SAYING THAT YOU HAD RECOMMENDED A .9

15:18:49 MILLAGE RATE, WHICH PREVIOUS COUNCILS HAD.

15:18:56 AND WHAT I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE IS SORT OF LIKE A DREAM,

15:19:02 AND THEN SOMETHING MORE REALISTIC.




15:19:07 IF WE HAVE THE MONEY THIS IS WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO

15:19:10 SEE, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, THIS IS WHERE WE

15:19:13 REALLY, REALLY NEED TO SPEND IT.

15:19:15 AND I KNOW THAT'S REALLY NOT MY DESIRE BUT I WOULD LOVE TO

15:19:18 SEE, IF WE HAVE THE FUNDS, WHAT DOES THE BUDGET COMMITTEE

15:19:23 REALLY WANT TO SEE?

15:19:25 >> I THINK THAT WE ARE HERE AS IT STATES ON THE AGENDA, AND

15:19:32 WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO YESTERDAY.

15:19:35 THIS IS TODAY.

15:19:36 SO HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD?

15:19:39 AND I THINK THAT MYSELF AND THE CFO, WE ARE ON THE SAME

15:19:44 PAGE.

15:19:46 WE WANT TO BE COLLABORATIVE AND WORK TOGETHER.

15:19:49 AND BE MORE -- THIS COMMITTEE BE MORE INVOLVED AS PERTAINS

15:19:54 TO MONITORING THE BUDGET.

15:19:59 AND BRINGING THINGS TO THE CFO'S ATTENTION, AND TO ACHIEVE

15:20:03 THE STAFF'S ATTENTION, AND UPDATING COUNCIL AS TO WHERE THE

15:20:10 CURRENT BUDGET IS SO WHEN THE NEW BUDGET IS BEING

15:20:12 CONSTRUCTED, AND BEING APPROVED FOR OPERATION, THAT

15:20:16 EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE.

15:20:18 I THINK IF YOU GO BACK TO THE RESOLUTION, THAT'S WHAT THIS

15:20:21 COMMITTEE IS.

15:20:22 THIS COMMITTEE IS -- IT'S A FISCAL HELP COMMITTEE.

15:20:27 IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMICS OF THE CITY, AND YOU

15:20:32 DON'T UNDERSTAND BUDGETS, THEN YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME.




15:20:38 >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.

15:20:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, COUNCILMAN CARLSON,

15:20:43 AND THEN MR. ROGERO.

15:20:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SINCE I HAVE YOU MR. ROGERO AND MR.

15:20:50 JOHNSON BOTH IN FRONT OF US, I THINK YOU HAVE ONE MORE BITE

15:20:54 AT THE C.I.T. TAX AND THEN IT'S FINI.

15:21:00 IN 2026, IT ENDS, AM I CORRECT?

15:21:03 SO YOU HAVE ONE MORE BITE.

15:21:04 WHAT WAS THE LAST AMOUNT OF THAT WE TOOK IN, DO YOU

15:21:06 REMEMBER?

15:21:07 NOT ACTUAL FIGURES.

15:21:08 A ROUNDABOUT.

15:21:10 A MILLION DOLLARS, WHATEVER IT WAS?

15:21:14 WHAT I AM SAYING IS THIS.

15:21:15 YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A NEED NOT ONLY TODAY FOR REPLACE OF

15:21:19 VEHICLES, A R AND THE REPLACEMENT OF VEHICLES TODAY, A FIRE

15:21:23 TRUCK COST YOU $800,000.

15:21:26 AND MAYBE MORE.

15:21:28 AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE TRANSPORT, AN AMBULANCE COST YOU

15:21:33 FIVE TIMES MORE THAN IT WAS WHEN YOU FIRST BOUGHT IT.

15:21:36 SO EVEN IF YOU HAVE A BUMP UP BECAUSE OF THE VALLEY, YOU

15:21:40 LOOK AT THE VALUE, YOU ARE GOING TO BE STATUS QUO AND MAYBE

15:21:44 A LITTLE BEHIND.

15:21:46 AND YOU KNOW AND ALL OF US KNOW ALL THE MONEY COLLECTED IN

15:21:49 THE CITY OF TAMPA, TAXATION INCLUDING HOMES AND BUILDINGS




15:21:53 AND EVERYTHING ELSE, DOES NOT COVER, AS YOU WELL KNOW, AS

15:21:56 YOU WELL KNOW BOTH OF YOU, THE COST OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT

15:21:59 AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

15:22:05 AND IT'S STILL ABOUT 50 MILLION.

15:22:07 I AM GOING TO BE 50 MILLION SHORT IN COVERING, WHICH IS WELL

15:22:12 NEEDED AND IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY.

15:22:14 THAT'S THE PUBLIC NEEDS, NUMBER ONE.

15:22:15 SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS BETWEEN YOU GENTLEMEN, BOTH THE

15:22:19 CITY AND THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

15:22:22 GET TOGETHER AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THAT

15:22:25 C.I.T. MONEY RUNS OUT IN 2026, AND WHERE IS THIS CITY GOING

15:22:29 TO BE NO MATTER WHO IS SITTING ON THAT SIDE OF THE AISLE OR

15:22:33 THIS SIDE OF THE OIL AS COUNCIL, WHAT ARE THE TAXPAYERS

15:22:35 GOING TO DO AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE THE REPLACEMENT

15:22:38 OF VEHICLES AT ONE COST?

15:22:41 BECAUSE NOW ELECTRIC VEHICLES CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT OF LESS

15:22:44 REPAIRS BUT THEY ARE GOING TO BE A LOT MORE COSTLY.

15:22:47 BECAUSE I SEE NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND WHY IS IT GOING TO

15:22:54 COST MORE, AND YOU GO BUY ONE NOW, 5 OR 10,000 OVER, EVEN

15:23:00 SOME OF THE MANUFACTURERS ARE TELLING DEALERS, DON'T DO

15:23:02 THIS, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THE DEALERSHIP AWAY FROM YOU.

15:23:05 AND THAT'S HAPPENED ALREADY TO TWO LARGE MANUFACTURERS IN

15:23:08 THIS COUNTRY.

15:23:09 SO IT'S COMING TO THE POINT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO GET -- TO

15:23:14 GO AND ACHIEVE IT AND WE BETTER HAVE A PLAN PAST 2026 REAL




15:23:19 QUICK.

15:23:19 BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO THAT, WHOEVER SITS ON THIS SIDE OF

15:23:23 THE AISLE OR THAT SIDE OF THE AISLE IT'S GOING TO BE UP THE

15:23:25 CREEK WITHOUT A PADDLE, AS THEY USED TO SAY.

15:23:29 BOTH OF YOU GENTLEMEN, THE CURRENT MAYOR AND THE CURRENT

15:23:32 COUNCIL, HAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THESE

15:23:34 THINGS, AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE ACHIEVEMENT OF THE

15:23:38 SERVICE LEVEL THAT THE PUBLIC EXPECTS, BECAUSE WE ARE WAY

15:23:41 BEHIND ON MANUFACTURING THE COST OF MONEY TO DO THE ROADS

15:23:48 THAT WE NEED.

15:23:48 THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT THAT WE RECEIVE, WHEN YOU PAVE THE

15:23:53 ROAD, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

15:23:55 AND THESE THINGS ARE COMING.

15:23:57 YOU HAVE THE PIPES PROGRAM GOING AT THE SAME TIME THAT YOU

15:23:59 HAVE TO REPAIR THE ROADS.

15:24:01 CAN'T REPAIR THE ROADS UNTIL YOU PUT THE PIPES -- I MEAN,

15:24:04 THIS IS ME THINKING.

15:24:06 I DO.

15:24:06 HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TEAR UP THE ROAD AND THEN TEAR IT UP

15:24:09 AGAIN TO PUT THE PIPES IN AND THEN COVER IT AGAIN?

15:24:12 YOU CAN'T DO THAT, BECAUSE IT'S DOUBLE THE COST.

15:24:14 AND THESE COST, WHAT IT'S COSTING THE CITY, AND YOU ARE

15:24:19 GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT PERCENT OVER 2023, 2022 IS

15:24:25 GOING TO JUMP, BECAUSE NOW YOU CAN'T TELL ME IGNORE IT.

15:24:30 CAN TELL YOU WHAT AN AIRPLANE IS GOING TO COST BECAUSE NO




15:24:33 ONE CAN TELL YOU THE PRICES AND YOU GO TO THE STORE NOW, YOU

15:24:38 YEAH, THEY GOT MILK, BUT THE MILK HAS -- NOT THE PLASTIC BUT

15:24:46 THE SQUARE TYPE, THEY ARE OUT.

15:24:49 I DON'T SEE IT AT WALMART.

15:24:51 I DON'T SEE IT AT A LOT OF PLACES.

15:24:54 SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME SHORTAGES IN THIS COUNTRY.

15:24:57 BUT I CAN GUARANTEE BY LOOKING AT THE SHELF, AND THE BIG

15:25:00 COMPANIES LIKE PUBLIX AND WALMART, THERE'S SOMETHING COMING

15:25:02 IN THIS COUNTRY.

15:25:06 MY FEELING IS, YOU GUYS, ALL OF YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF

15:25:11 BOTH COMMITTEES AND THE CITY, HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S

15:25:13 GOING TO HAPPEN, HOW YOU ARE GOING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE

15:25:16 CITY WITHOUT THE CIP BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC IS

15:25:21 GOING TO VOTE FOR CIP.

15:25:22 >> IF I CAN SPEAK ON THAT.

15:25:26 YOU KNOW, BEING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR RATHER THAN BEING IN

15:25:28 THE PUBLIC SECTOR, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE PRIVATE

15:25:31 SECTOR IS WHEN I GO BACK TO MONITORING YOUR BUDGET, YOU ARE

15:25:35 ALWAYS MONITORING -- WE YOU LOOK AT THE PUBLIC, THERE'S NO

15:25:43 SLIGHT TO ANYONE IN A POSITION, BUT THE REALITY IS, FROM THE

15:25:47 LOCAL, STATE, TO FEDERAL, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE WRITING A CHECK

15:25:50 FROM BEHIND RATHER THAN WRITING A CHECK OUT FRONT.

15:25:53 AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

15:25:55 THAT MEANS WRITING A CHECK OUT FRONT, I AM ACTUALLY WORKING

15:25:58 AT MY PROFITS AND MY LOSS AND I HAVE TO SAY, I HAD MORE




15:26:02 GOING OUT THAN I HAD COMING IN, WHAT WAS THE CAUSE OF THAT?

15:26:06 AND IN YOU GO BACK TO 2004, 2005 WHEN DELTA AIRLINES HAD TO

15:26:11 FILE BANKRUPTCY SOME SAY IT WAS BECAUSE OF FUEL BUT I CAN

15:26:14 TELL YOU IT WAS NOT BECAUSE OF FUEL, IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE

15:26:17 MISMANAGEMENT OF THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE --

15:26:23 THAT SHOULD HAVE COST THE CONE $650, THEY WERE BEING CHARGED

15:26:28 $1600 AND THERE WAS NO MEASUREMENTS IN PLACE TO MONITOR

15:26:32 THAT.

15:26:32 SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS YOUR OVERSPENDING FOR ITEMS THAT YOU

15:26:35 SHOULD NOT BE OVERSPENDING ON.

15:26:37 AND THAT ALSO SEEPS OVER TO THE PUBLIC SECTOR WHERE YOU PUT

15:26:41 THESE CONTRACTS OUT FOR BID.

15:26:43 AGAIN, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT -- I AM JUST GIVING AN

15:26:46 EXAMPLE.

15:26:47 PUTTING THESE CONTRACTS OUT TO BID AND WHAT HAPPENS IS, IT'S

15:26:52 DETERMINED AT THIS PRICE, AND YOU SAY IT'S COMPETITIVE, BUT

15:26:56 IT REALLY IS NOT COMPETITIVE, RIGHT?

15:26:58 BECAUSE YOU ARE OVERPAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD NOT

15:27:00 BE OVERPAYING FOR, BUT YOU ARE OVERPAYING FOR IT BECAUSE YOU

15:27:03 ARE A GOVERNMENT ENTITY.

15:27:05 AND I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO CIT, WHEN IT RUNS OUT IN 2026,

15:27:10 THE WAY TO OVERCOME THAT IS TO MONITOR YOUR SPENDING.

15:27:16 AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE BEING COMPETITIVE WITH THE

15:27:20 SERVICES THAT YOU ARE CONTRACTING OUT.

15:27:22 ESPECIALLY AS PERTAINS TO THE SUPPLY CHAIN, AS IT PERTAINS




15:27:26 TO SECURITY, OR WHATEVER.

15:27:29 WHATEVER SERVICES YOU ARE CONTRACTING OUT, YOU NEED TO MAKE

15:27:32 SURE THAT YOU ARE REALLY GETTING THE BEST BANG FOR YOUR

15:27:36 BUCK.

15:27:36 AND THAT'S NOT PERFORMANCE, THAT IS WHAT IS IT GOING FOR IN

15:27:41 THE PRIVATE SECTOR, RIGHT?

15:27:44 IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WE DO THIS EVERY DAY.

15:27:47 WE GET THREE BIDS, WE LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE IT'S

15:27:52 COMPETITIVE TO WHAT WE NEED.

15:27:55 THAT'S HOW YOU CAN OVERCOME --

15:27:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE LAST THING AND I WILL FINISH, PLEASE.

15:28:02 HAVE YOU GUYS IN YOUR COMMITTEE EVER DISCUSSED ANYTHING

15:28:06 ABOUT -- I AM NOT ANTI-SPORTS.

15:28:09 I AM ANTI-BUILDING FOR SPORTS.

15:28:12 THERE'S A VAST DIFFERENCE.

15:28:14 AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE A CONSIDERATION WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN,

15:28:16 BECAUSE IF IT DOES HAPPEN, THERE'S A -- I TALKED ABOUT THIS

15:28:21 SOME TIME BACK, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT

15:28:24 THE BUDGET?

15:28:25 YOU ALL KNOW IT'S SOMETHING STANDARD, AND FOR THE NEXT 30

15:28:29 YEARS, THE DEVELOPER RIGHTS GIVEN AWAY.

15:28:35 THESE ARE THINGS YOUR COMMITTEE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT, IN MY

15:28:37 OPINION, TO FIND OUT WHERE WE STAND AND MAKE

15:28:40 RECOMMENDATIONS.

15:28:40 AND I REALLY WOULD BE APPRECIATIVE OF WHATEVER YOU COME UP




15:28:42 WITH BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDED.

15:28:47 SOMETHING WITHOUT YOU CAN'T LIVE.

15:28:51 SO IT'S ABOUT THE PUBLIC NECESSITATES FIRST AND ONLY FIRST.

15:28:56 AFTER THAT, I AM NOT WILLING TO GIVE IT AWAY.

15:29:00 I AM WILLING TO HELP BUT I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE DEVELOPMENT

15:29:03 RIGHTS WHEN THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO PAY ME BACK WITH MY

15:29:05 MONEY ON THE 50% THEN ASK BE ME FOR THE 50%, AND AFTER THEY

15:29:10 ARE GETTING IT TO ARE FREE.

15:29:11 NOT ONLY THAT BUT THERE'S ANOTHER CONTRACT COMING UP NOW, I

15:29:14 BELIEVE ENDS IN 2026.

15:29:16 EVERYTHING ENDS IN 2026.

15:29:17 THE BIG STADIUM.

15:29:20 DOWN ON DALE MABRY.

15:29:23 2026.

15:29:24 >> I BELIEVE SO.

15:29:25 THE TIMING IS VERY CLOSE.

15:29:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE TIMING IS GOING TO BE ESSENTIALLY

15:29:31 POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE DO, AND

15:29:36 FROM WHAT I HEAR YOU ARE LOOKING AT SOMETHING OVER A HALF

15:29:39 BILLION DOLLARS.

15:29:40 SO JUST BE PREPARED.

15:29:41 AND YOU AND I -- I AM TRYING TO BE JOKING ABOUT SOMETHING

15:29:47 THAT'S VERY SERIOUS.

15:29:48 IT'S ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THESE DENTS,

15:29:52 WE MAY NOT HAVE THE PROBLEM WE HAVE TODAY, AND AFFORDABLE




15:29:58 HOUSING.

15:29:59 >> THAT'S WHERE THE COMMITTEE COMES INTO PLAY.

15:30:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU CAN DO.

15:30:04 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY.

15:30:08 YESTERDAY, THE MAYOR HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE ON

15:30:11 ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY.

15:30:13 MOST OF THE COMMENTS SHE MADE WERE ABOUT CITY COUNCIL.

15:30:18 BUT I FEEL LIKE WE ARE PRETTY TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE.

15:30:21 WE ARE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC TWO OR THREE TIMES A WEEK.

15:30:23 THE PUBLIC WIND UP AS THEY DID THIS MORNING, AND THEY BLAST

15:30:27 HALF OR MOST OF US EVERY WEEK.

15:30:29 SO WE HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE PUBLIC.

15:30:31 WE GET E-MAILS, CALLS, WE ARE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY IN THE

15:30:34 PUBLIC ALL THE TIME, AND WE ARE DIRECTLY ACCOUNTABLE TO THE

15:30:37 PUBLIC.

15:30:39 WHAT I HEAR THE MOST, A REQUEST, IS MORE TRANSPARENCY FOR

15:30:44 THE ADMINISTRATION, AND NOT JUST THIS ADMINISTRATION BUT ANY

15:30:46 ADMINISTRATION, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T SEE THE INNER

15:30:50 WORKINGS OF IT.

15:30:51 AND YOU HAVE SEEN HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO NAVIGATE THE INSIDE

15:30:54 OF IT.

15:30:54 AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE HAD SOME PUSHBACK ON SOME MEETINGS

15:30:57 AND SOMEBODY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE ASKED.

15:30:59 BUT WHAT I WOULD DO IF I WERE YOU ALL, I WOULD PRINT OUT THE

15:31:03 HEADLINES FROM TODAY'S ARTICLES THAT SAY MAYOR CASTOR WANTS




15:31:07 ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY AND SHOW THEM AND HOPEFULLY

15:31:10 CHIEF OF STAFF WILL BACK YOU UP AND SAY THIS IS WHAT THE

15:31:12 MAYOR WANTS, THIS IS WHAT SHE SAID TO THE PUBLIC SHE WANTS,

15:31:15 SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS?

15:31:17 IF WE DISAGREE THAT'S FINE.

15:31:18 WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DO A WITCH HUNT TO TRY TO FIND SOMEBODY

15:31:21 DOING SOMETHING WRONG.

15:31:22 WE ARE JUST TRYING TO GET ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS.

15:31:24 AND TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY FROM ADMINISTRATION TO

15:31:27 YOUR COMMITTEE IS TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY TOWARD US

15:31:31 AND TOWARD THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE YOU ALL REPRESENT THOUSANDS

15:31:34 OF PEOPLE, AS YOU KNOW YOU ALL NETWORK AND ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE

15:31:38 IN THE COMMUNITY, AND CAN BE AMBASSADORS.

15:31:41 AND IF WE HAPPEN TO DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING THE

15:31:43 ADMINISTRATION IS DOING, THAT'S FINE.

15:31:45 WE SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE.

15:31:48 BUT AS LONG AS EVERYBODY IS TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE.

15:31:52 THANK YOU.

15:31:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:31:53 MR. ROGERO.

15:31:58 >>DENNIS ROGERO: DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

15:32:01 CONGRATULATIONS, MA'AM, BEFORE I FORGET.

15:32:07 I DIDN'T STEP OVER HERE TO GET INTO ANY DISCUSSION OR CUT

15:32:12 SHORT ANY QUESTIONS.

15:32:13 MR. JOHNSON REFERENCED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND SAID A




15:32:18 STATEMENT THAT I AGREE, I THINK PHILOSOPHICALLY WE ARE ON

15:32:20 THE SAME PAGE.

15:32:21 OF COURSE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, MR. JOHNSON AND I HAD

15:32:29 DISCUSSION, MET WITH CHIEF OF STAFF, WANT TO THANK MR.

15:32:33 SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL FOR FACILITATING MANY DISCUSSIONS IN

15:32:36 THE BACKGROUND LEADING UP TO THIS MEETING.

15:32:40 AND THE REASON I BRING ALL THIS UP IS I THINK THIS MOTION IS

15:32:43 VERY WELL TIMED.

15:32:44 SO I AM GLAD YOU MADE IT.

15:32:45 I THINK WE ARE WELL POSITIONED FROM A TINY PERSPECTIVE TO GO

15:32:50 FORWARD IN NOT ONLY MONITORING THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET BUT

15:32:54 THE 23 BUDGET.

15:32:56 AGAIN AS YOU RECALL COUNCIL'S BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS

15:32:59 TYPICALLY STARTS WITH OUR PRESENTATIONS TO YOU NEXT MONTH AT

15:33:02 THE MIDYEAR REVIEW.

15:33:03 THAT'S GOING TO COINCIDE VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITIZEN

15:33:06 ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S NEXT MEETING.

15:33:09 I THINK THAT'S VERY WELL TIMED.

15:33:11 WE WILL BRING TO YOU WHERE WE THINK WE ARE IN THIS YEAR.

15:33:14 WE'LL HAVE ABOUT A HALF OF THE YEAR'S INFORMATION.

15:33:18 WE'LL BRING YOU WHERE WE THINK WE ARE GOING.

15:33:22 AGAIN NICELY COINCIDING WITH THE NEXT MEETING OF THE

15:33:26 CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

15:33:29 WE'LL ALSO SHARE INSIGHTS AS TO HOW WE FINISHED LAST YEAR.

15:33:34 AGAIN WHEN COUNCIL ADOPTS THE BUDGET IN SEPTEMBER, WE ARE




15:33:38 STILL NOT OUT OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

15:33:40 WE ARE JUST LEAVING AND IT TAKES MOMENTS TO CLOSE THE BOOKS

15:33:44 OUT, AS IT WERE.

15:33:46 SO IT'S WELL TIMED.

15:33:48 I THIS I WE ARE WELL PLACED GOING FORWARD, WITH A REGULAR

15:33:51 PERIODIC SCHEDULE.

15:33:53 SOUND LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT A MONTH FOR NOT ONLY

15:33:56 REVIEW INTERNALLY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION'S PERSPECTIVE,

15:34:00 REVIEW EXTERNALLY BY THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND IF

15:34:04 YOU WILL RECALL LAST YEAR, THAT'S ALSO THE KICKOFF FOR OUR

15:34:09 ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS WITH EACH OF YOU, TO INQUIRE AS TO WHAT

15:34:14 YOUR PRIORITIES ARE.

15:34:15 LAST YEAR EACH COUNCILMEMBER HAD AT LEAST ONE, ONE ON ONE

15:34:19 MEETING.

15:34:20 SOME OF YOU WANTED MORE SO WE HAD MORE.

15:34:22 YOU WILL ALSO RECALL YOU ADDED A BUDGET WORKSHOP LAST YEAR

15:34:25 IN AUGUST, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN.

15:34:28 THE FEEDBACK I GOT FROM THAT WORKSHOP WAS VERY POSITIVE.

15:34:33 I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY USEFUL.

15:34:35 IT ALLOWED US TO TRANSITION FROM THE INITIAL ONE-ON-ONE

15:34:37 MEETINGS WITH YOUR INPUT TO MEET WITH YOU AGAIN AFTER YOU

15:34:43 RECEIVED THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET, AND ADDITIONAL.

15:34:49 FURTHER TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AS MR. JOHNSON

15:34:52 AND YOU ALL REFERENCED, THEY HAVE GOT A LONG HISTORY OF

15:34:56 PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT




15:35:00 EITHER ARE INCORPORATED INTO THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET,

15:35:03 OR EVENTUALLY ARE INCORPORATED AS YOU ADOPT THE BUDGET IN

15:35:08 SEPTEMBER.

15:35:08 WE WANT TO SEE THAT CONTINUE, AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE GOT

15:35:13 MORE THAN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF TIME TO PLAN FOR THAT

15:35:16 THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, SO WE CAN ALL ARRIVE AT THAT

15:35:19 DESTINATION WHERE THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FED IN -- AS MR.

15:35:25 VIERA POINTED OUT, YOU DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH THE CITIZENS

15:35:28 ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH THE

15:35:31 CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND COUNCIL WANT ALWAYS AGREE

15:35:34 WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, BUT AT LEAST IF WE SURFACE THE

15:35:38 INFORMATION, IF WE VETTED IT AND STICK TO IT FROM A

15:35:41 FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, THEN I THINK ALL PARTIES HAVE DONE

15:35:44 THEIR JOB.

15:35:45 SO I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK, THE WORK OF THE COMMITTEE, AND

15:35:50 PHILOSOPHICALLY WHERE WE ARE HEADING.

15:35:53 I WOULD ALSO BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THINK CHIEF OF STAFF FOR

15:35:57 HIS PARTICIPATION AND DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY MORRIS MASSEY.

15:36:01 HAVING SAID THAT, I'M PREPARED TO TAKE INPUT NOW, TAKE INPUT

15:36:07 ON WHAT YOUR OPERATORS ARE WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN

15:36:13 SHARING MORE INFORMATION WITH US, WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO

15:36:16 BEGIN MEETINGS, ET CETERA, AND BE PREPARED FOR THAT

15:36:20 THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS.

15:36:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:36:22 >>JOE JOHNSON: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO NEED FROM A




15:36:29 COMMITTEE STANDPOINT IS A LITTLE MORE SUPPORT.

15:36:37 I THINK WE NEED, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WHO CAN KEEP UP WITH THE

15:36:42 MINUTES, OKAY.

15:36:44 WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A DESIGNATED PLACE TO

15:36:50 MEET.

15:36:51 SO WE NEED A LITTLE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT FOR THE

15:36:54 COMMITTEE.

15:36:56 RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ONE PERSON TRYING TO DO IT ALL,

15:37:02 IT'S A LITTLE CHALLENGING.

15:37:04 BUT IT GETS DONE, BUT I THINK ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE

15:37:08 COMMITTEE FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT, DEFINITELY --

15:37:12 >>> I WILL COLLABORATE WITH THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF STAFF,

15:37:15 CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE.

15:37:19 OF COURSE, THE CHAIR OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, AND LET'S SEE

15:37:23 WHAT WE CAN DO TO OFFER BETTER SUPPORT.

15:37:25 AGAIN, THE CITY IS GROWING.

15:37:27 I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU.

15:37:31 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

15:37:32 >> COUNCIL, I DO THANK YOU.

15:37:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S GOING TO RAIN IN THE NEXT 45

15:37:40 MINUTES.

15:37:41 YOU ARE GOING TO BE TRAPPED.

15:37:42 >>BILL CARLSON: I WASN'T HERE WHEN THE COMMITTEE WAS

15:37:44 CREATED AND I AM NOT TRYING TO START A BIG FIGHT, BUT I

15:37:50 WONDER, YOU KNOW, IN TRYING TO PROMOTE COLLABORATION, COULD




15:37:56 WE MODIFY THE MAKEUP OF THE COMMITTEE TO ADD TWO APPOINTEES

15:38:00 FROM THE MAYOR?

15:38:01 OR IS THAT TOO DIFFICULT?

15:38:07 >> IF I CAN ADDRESS THAT.

15:38:08 THIS COMMITTEE WAS CREATED IN 2008 AND THE RESOLUTION WAS

15:38:12 AMENDED IN 2011.

15:38:14 COUNCIL DIDN'T HAVE A COPY OF IT TODAY.

15:38:16 I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GOING TO GO THIS FAR IN DEPTH WITH

15:38:20 THAT.

15:38:21 BUT OBVIOUSLY AN ELEVEN-YEAR-OLD RESOLUTION NEEDS TO BE

15:38:23 REVISITED AND BROUGHT UP TO SPEED AND WE HAVE TO APPLY IT

15:38:26 CONSISTENTLY.

15:38:28 IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THE KIND OF SUPPORT THAT WAS TALKED

15:38:32 ABOUT, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS RAISED BY THE COMMITTEE,

15:38:37 IS THE FACT THAT IF YOU DO WANT TO MAKE IT WITH THE MAYORAL

15:38:41 APPOINTMENT, AND EXPAND THIS, AND GET THE SUPPORT YOU NEED,

15:38:45 YOU CAN CREATE THIS BY ORDINANCE AND MAKE THIS WITH THE

15:38:48 MAYOR'S CERTAINLY APPROVAL STANDING BOARD.

15:38:51 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER.

15:38:52 RIGHT NOW, AS I RECALL -- AND I REMEMBER IN 2008, THIS WAS A

15:38:57 COMMITTEE CREATED BY CITY COUNCIL, AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE

15:39:01 SUPPORT WAS ALL TO BE PROVIDED BY CITY COUNCIL, AND THE

15:39:03 APPOINTEES WERE INDIVIDUALLY SELECTED BY CITY COUNCIL

15:39:06 MEMBERS.

15:39:06 >>BILL CARLSON: AND IF WE WANTED TO MODIFY THE ORDINANCE --




15:39:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S NOT AN ORDINANCE, IT'S A RESOLUTION

15:39:13 OF CITY COUNCIL.

15:39:14 >> CAN WE INVITE THE MAYOR TO APPOINT TWO?

15:39:20 IF SHE DOESN'T WANT TO --

15:39:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S COUNCIL'S COMMITTEE.

15:39:24 COUNCIL CAN MAKE THAT AMENDMENT.

15:39:27 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MODIFY THE

15:39:29 RESOLUTION OF THE CREATION OF THAT COMMITTEE TO INVITE THE

15:39:32 MAYOR TO APPOINT TWO APPOINTEES TO THE COMMITTEE.

15:39:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND?

15:39:40 YES, SIR?

15:39:40 I DON'T THINK ANY SPECIFIC DATE CHIEF OF STAFF IS HERE AND

15:39:43 TAKE IT TO THE MAYOR AND SEE IF WE CAN --

15:39:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.

15:39:48 THIS IS SOMETHING I HADN'T DISCUSSED WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF

15:39:50 OR THE ADMINISTRATION OR THE COMMITTEE, THAT CERTAINLY

15:39:54 HASN'T GONE TO THE COMMITTEE YET.

15:39:56 >>BILL CARLSON: IF THEY DECIDE NOT TO DO IT, THAT'S FINE.

15:39:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHY NOT DECIDE AT THE NEXT COMMITTEE

15:40:02 MEETING AND LET US KNOW?

15:40:05 MEET WITH THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AND SEE IF THEY WOULD BE

15:40:07 AGREEABLE FOR THE MAYOR TO HAVE TWO APPOINTEES, LET US KNOW

15:40:10 AND WE'LL MAKE THE OFFICIAL MOTION.

15:40:13 >> YESTERDAY ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS MADE A MOTION TO

15:40:24 THE FACT --




15:40:25 DID IT PASS?

15:40:27 >> I BELIEVE -- YOU KNOW WHAT?

15:40:32 IT'S PUT ON THE TABLE, BUT THERE WAS NOT A MOTION INTO IT.

15:40:35 SO WE WILL REVISIT IT ON MAY 4th.

15:40:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO THAT, REVISIT IT MAY 4th

15:40:42 AND COUNCILMEMBER MECHANICS GUDES --

15:40:49 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I CHANGE MY MOTION TO ADD A DISCUSSION

15:40:51 ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF TWO MAYORAL APPOINTEES TO THE

15:40:55 COMMITTEE?

15:40:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS DIRECTING YOU TO TELL YOUR

15:40:57 COMMITTEE, NOT A FORMAL MOTION BUT YOU COME BACK TO US AND

15:41:00 LET US KNOW AND WE CAN TAKE ACTION FROM THERE.

15:41:03 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE JUST ADD A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM?

15:41:07 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TO THE AGENDA ON MAY

15:41:10 4 --

15:41:11 >>> I HAVE AN AGENDA MAY 4th.

15:41:13 WE ARE HERE MAY 5th.

15:41:16 IT'S SEPARATE.

15:41:17 >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN ARE THEY COMING BACK BEFORE US?

15:41:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY ARE NOT.

15:41:21 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A MOTION WHILE HE'S HERE JUST TO

15:41:24 ADD TO MAY 10th, A DISCUSSION WITH STAFF ABOUT THE

15:41:30 POSSIBILITY OF ADDING TWO MAYORAL APPOINTEES TO THE BUDGET

15:41:36 COMMITTEE?

15:41:36 >> ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WILL SAY SINCE WE ARE ON THIS




15:41:39 TOPIC, WE ONLY GET TO BRIEF COUNCIL ONCE A YEAR.

15:41:45 AND I THINK THAT'S A DISSERVICE TO COUNCIL, BECAUSE YOU ARE

15:41:49 NOT WELL INFORMED AS TO THE PROGRESS OF THE COMMITTEE, AND

15:41:55 THE ADMINISTRATION WHEN WE MEET WITH THE DEPARTMENTS.

15:42:00 SO IT WOULD BE UP TO YOU -- I AM A QUARTERLY GUY.

15:42:04 OKAY, WE MEET MONTHLY AND WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE TO MONTHLY,

15:42:07 BUT AT LEAST QUARTERLY, WE CAN KEEP COUNCIL INFORMED AS TO

15:42:13 THE PROGRESS THAT THE CITIZENS BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE

15:42:16 IS MAKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, AND JUST KIND OF KEEP

15:42:21 COUNCIL INFORMED AS TO WHERE WE ARE AT.

15:42:24 SO I THINK --

15:42:25 >>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:42:27 >>BILL CARLSON: DOES MY MOTION HAVE A SECOND OR NOT?

15:42:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANTED MAY 10th WITH THE

15:42:32 COMMENDATIONS?

15:42:33 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M SORRY.

15:42:34 MAY 19th.

15:42:36 RETURN ON MAY 19th.

15:42:37 ASK STAFF TO RETURN ON MAY 19th TO DISCUSS THE

15:42:40 POSSIBILITY OF ADDING TWO MAYORAL APPOINTEES TO THE BUDGET

15:42:45 AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.

15:42:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MEANWHILE YOU ARE MEET WITH YOUR

15:42:48 COMMITTEE ON MAY 4th AND WE'LL HAVE INFORMATION AND

15:42:51 FEEDBACK FROM EVERYONE THERE.

15:42:52 WE HAVE A MOTION -- WAIT.




15:42:54 DO YOU HAVE A SECOND TO THAT?

15:42:56 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:42:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT BUT I DO

15:43:01 THINK IF THE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO MEET, WHATEVER

15:43:03 RECOMMENDATION THEY NEED TO FUNCTION AS A COMMITTEE, BECAUSE

15:43:06 THE RESOLUTION IS OUTDATED LOT, THEY CAN AT LEAST BE UPDATED

15:43:10 IN ORDER TO COME BACK WITH --

15:43:13 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY, AND ALONG -- ALONG WITH ANY OTHER

15:43:18 RECOMMENDED CHANGES.

15:43:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

15:43:22 CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:43:24 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:43:26 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

15:43:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU GOT THAT?

15:43:30 OKAY.

15:43:30 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT THE BUDGET

15:43:32 PROCESS?

15:43:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THE

15:43:35 COLLABORATIVE PROCESS.

15:43:36 WE WENT INTO THE WEEDS.

15:43:38 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK HE WAS JUST ASKING US.

15:43:41 MY QUESTION, CHIEF BENNETT, COULD YOU JUST TELL US, HOW MANY

15:43:44 TIMES DIABETES WE MEET LAST YEAR?

15:43:45 YOU ALL PRESENTED TO US BUT HOW MANY MEETINGS CAN DID WE

15:43:48 HAVE?




15:43:48 WHAT WAS THE PROCESS? I THOUGHT THE PROCESS YOU DID LAST

15:43:51 YEAR WAS GOOD.

15:43:52 SINCE WE CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER IN BETWEEN MEETINGS, I WAS

15:43:55 WONDERING IF ANYBODY WANTED TO MODIFY THAT PROCESS.

15:43:58 COULD YOU JUST TELL US QUICKLY WHAT YOU DID LAST YEAR AND

15:44:00 WHAT YOU RECOMMEND THIS YEAR?

15:44:03 >>JOHN BENNETT: CHIEF OF STAFF.

15:44:05 EVERY YEAR SO FAR, WE HAVE TRIED TO INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITY

15:44:09 FOR SOME SORT OF ENGAGEMENT LOOKING AT WHAT I CALL THE TWO

15:44:12 CORNER STONES OF THE BUDGET, WHICH IS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE,

15:44:16 AN ENTERPRISE PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT.

15:44:18 LIKE HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GET A SUSTAINABLE LEVEL OF

15:44:21 SERVICE IN EVERY CORNER OF THE CITY AND EVERY FUNCTION THAT

15:44:24 CITY GOVERNMENT PROVIDES TO THEIR COMMUNITY?

15:44:26 AND SO THE SPIRIT OF WORKING WITH CHIEF ROGERO WAS TO LOOK

15:44:31 AT THE INTERNAL CLOCK OF THE BUDGET PREPARATION CYCLE AND

15:44:35 THEN FIGURE OUT WHERE THE OPPORTUNITIES EXIST FOR THE

15:44:37 CITIZENS GROUP, AS WELL AS COUNCIL, TO GIVE INPUT.

15:44:40 AND SOME OF THOSE INPUT WERE REALLY GOOD DRIVERS BECAUSE I

15:44:44 KNOW WHEN I FIRST CAME BACK TO THE CITY, WE INCREASED AN

15:44:49 OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUND

15:44:52 COMMUNITY AND GET A LOT OF INPUT FROM COUNCIL TO WORK ON

15:44:56 THOSE NONPROFIT GROUPS, TO SEE HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THEM,

15:44:59 BECAUSE THEY ARE FILLING A LOT OF GAPS, AND COUNCIL'S INPUT

15:45:03 WAS INVALUABLE ON THAT.




15:45:04 SO TO ANSWER THE CLOCK QUESTION, ACTUALLY CHIEF ROGERO PUT

15:45:08 TOGETHER KIND OF A TIMELINE ENGAGEMENT, AND I DEFER TO HIM

15:45:13 TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE SEQUENCING.

15:45:15 AND I THINK WE CAN AGAIN, AS I HEARD TODAY, IN THE TESTIMONY

15:45:19 OF THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE DO

15:45:24 NEED MORE LEAD TIME TO HAVE A BETTER MORE FLUID

15:45:27 PRESENTATION.

15:45:29 CHIEF ROGERO ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT THE BUDGET MIDPOINT REVIEW

15:45:33 WHICH SHOULD BE COMING UP.

15:45:35 THAT'S A GREAT CHANCE TO CYCLE IN THE BUDGET FINANCE

15:45:37 COMMITTEE TO SEE HOW WELL WE ARE IN SYNC FOR THE FIRST SIX

15:45:40 MONTHS OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF FY 22 AND THEN ALSO START THE

15:45:45 PLANNING FOR FY 23.

15:45:48 CHIEF, DO YOU WANT TO AUGMENT THAT THE?

15:45:51 REASONING ROGERO AS I SAID, IT REALLY IS A VERY GOOD TIME

15:45:54 BECAUSE WE WILL COMING TO YOU WITH THE MIDYEAR REVIEW NEXT

15:45:57 MONTH COINCIDING WITH THE NEXT MEETING OF THE CITIZENS

15:45:59 ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SOMEWHAT, AND THEN FROM THERE, IF YOU

15:46:03 WILL LAST YEAR, AGAIN WE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH

15:46:06 ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS.

15:46:07 AGAIN WE WANTED TO GET, AS CHIEF OF STAFF SAID, YOUR INPUT

15:46:11 AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AS WE CRAFTED NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

15:46:15 THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS, THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, AS I

15:46:18 MENTIONED, BUT WE ALSO TOOK QUESTIONS AND PROVIDED ANSWERS.

15:46:22 AGAIN, I THINK I MENTIONED SOME OF YOU WANTED MORE THAN JUST




15:46:26 ONE MEETING, SO WE PROVIDED THAT, AS OFTEN AND AS FREQUENTLY

15:46:31 AS YOU WOULD LIKE.

15:46:35 PHILOSOPHICALLY, I WOULD PREFER MORE MEETINGS SO WE KEEP

15:46:38 ABREAST OF WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE AND WHAT THOSE

15:46:40 PRIORITIES REMAIN THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

15:46:45 NOT INTENDED TO AMBUSH ANYBODY AND CERTAINLY NOT YOUR

15:46:49 INTENT, I'M SURE, TO GIVE US INFORMATION TOO LATE INFORM US

15:46:52 TO EASILY ACT ON.

15:46:55 BUT AGAIN WE CAN BE VERY FLEXIBLE, MORE MEETINGS, WOULD YOU

15:46:59 LIKE EARLIER, OR MORE FREQUENT WORKSHOPS?

15:47:02 AND THAT'S WHY AGAIN I AM THANKFUL THIS MOTION OCCURRED

15:47:05 RIGHT NOW.

15:47:07 IT'S THE PEST TIME TO START DISCUSSING THAT.

15:47:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH SO MUCH.

15:47:11 NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 72.

15:47:23 OCEA WYNN TO DISCUSS VILA BROTHERS PARK.

15:47:26 >>OCEA WYNN: GOOD AFTERNOON.

15:47:30 WELCOME.

15:47:31 MA'AM, WELCOME.

15:47:32 I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

15:47:34 I SUBMITTED A REPORT REGARDING -- OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATIVE

15:47:41 COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.

15:47:42 I SUBMITTED A MEMO REGARDING VILA BROTHERS, AND I JUST

15:47:45 WANTED TO UPDATE COUNCIL ON WHAT HAS OCCURRED SINCE THE MEMO

15:47:50 WAS SUBMITTED LAST WEEK.




15:47:54 IT'S IN THE MEMO THAT WE WERE ON THE 29th WE WERE

15:47:57 MEETING WITH -- WE HAD SELECTED A CONSULTANT, ENGINEERING

15:48:06 CONSULTANT, FOR THE VILA BROTHERS PARK.

15:48:10 THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IN THE PARK WE HAVE DRAINAGE

15:48:15 ISSUES.

15:48:15 SO BEFORE WE START WITH THE REPAIRS, WITH THE PARK

15:48:19 IMPROVEMENTS, IT'S POWER THAT WE GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE

15:48:22 RIGHT.

15:48:23 SINCE THAT TIME, ON APRIL 1st, WE MET WITH THE MAYOR AND

15:48:29 THEN ON APRIL 4th DID A SITE ASSESSMENT SO EVERYONE WAS

15:48:34 ALIGNED WITH WHAT EXACTLY WAS GOING ON WITH THE

15:48:37 INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIRS.

15:48:39 WHAT WE WILL BE DOING, ONCE WE DO THE PARKS IMPROVEMENTS, WE

15:48:44 WILL PUT IN PICNIC SHELTERS, WE WILL HAVE LARGE AND SMALL

15:48:51 DOG PARKS, WE WILL HAVE AN EXERCISE TRAIL WITH THE EXERCISE

15:48:56 EQUIPMENT, WE WILL HAVE A PLAYGROUND AREA AND COURT

15:49:01 LIGHTING.

15:49:02 IN ADDITION TO BE THAT WE WILL DO THE COURT RESURFACING.

15:49:05 WE WILL HAVE AN ADA SIDEWALK ADDITIONS.

15:49:09 WHEN WE HAD THE ASSESSMENT LAST WEEK WE DID HAVE AN ADA SITE

15:49:12 ASSESSMENT AS WELL.

15:49:14 WE WILL BE REPLACING THE SAME FOOTPRINT OF THE EXISTING

15:49:18 BASKETBALL COURTS.

15:49:20 THOSE BASKETBALL COURTS, WE ARE GOING TO START WITH THE

15:49:23 NORTH END OF THE COURTS.




15:49:26 AFTER THE INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE IS DONE IN THAT AREA.

15:49:29 THEN CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGHOUT THE PARK.

15:49:32 WE WILL BE INSTALLING PICKLEBALL COURT AREAS, AND THEN WE

15:49:40 WILL BE REPLACING THE WEST END OF THE PARK WITH AN

15:49:45 ORNAMENTAL FENCE.

15:49:47 I WANTED COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN IN DISCUSSION

15:49:51 FOR A WHILE.

15:49:52 WHERE IT'S STARTING, THE ACTUAL MOTION ON GETTING THE PARK

15:49:57 REPAIRS DONE.

15:49:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

15:49:59 AND IS THERE AN END DATE, A GOAL DATE FOR ALL THESE THINGS?

15:50:04 MY ISSUE IS, A COUPLE OF THINGS.

15:50:09 MS. MARTHA VILA'S HEALTH, I WANT HER TO SEE THIS WHILE SHE

15:50:14 IS WITH US.

15:50:15 I WAS HERE FOR JULIAN LANG AND THAT WAS A MOTHER'S DAY

15:50:19 WEEKEND DEADLINE AND IT GOT DONE.

15:50:22 THE HANNA PROJECT, THE WHOLE CITY CENTER, I THINK IS A YEAR

15:50:26 OUT, AND IT'S GOING TO GET DONE.

15:50:29 I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT AND WHATNOT.

15:50:32 BUT WITH THIS PARK, I MEAN, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE

15:50:35 CONSIDERING EVERYONE HAS BEEN VERY PATIENT.

15:50:37 I DID MY DUE DILIGENCE IN VOTING HOW I VOTE AND SUPPORT WHAT

15:50:42 I HAVE TO SUPPORT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THE FINANCING WAS

15:50:45 DONE WITH THIS.

15:50:46 BUT WHAT DO I TELL MRS. VILA?




15:50:52 >>OCEA WYNN: SO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, AFTER WE HAVE THE

15:50:56 FINAL SITE ASSESSMENT REPORT FROM THE ENGINEER, WE DID THE

15:51:02 SITE WALK THROUGH LAST WEEK, I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE

15:51:06 ANSWER IN TERMS OF WHEN WE CAN ACTUALLY GET STARTED.

15:51:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THAT ASSESSMENT TO

15:51:12 BE FINISHED?

15:51:14 >>OCEA WYNN: IF I CAN GET BACK WITH YOU AFTERWARDS AND LET

15:51:16 NOW AN UPDATE WHEN THAT WOULD BE FINISHED.

15:51:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU COULD CONTACT MY OFFICE

15:51:21 DIRECTLY.

15:51:21 NO NEED TO COME HERE BUT I WILL COMMUNICATE WITH THE

15:51:24 NEIGHBORHOOD, I WILL COMMUNICATE WITH MRS. VILA AND GO FROM

15:51:27 THERE.

15:51:28 BUT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

15:51:30 YOU KNOW, IT'S LIFE AND DEATH AT THIS POINT.

15:51:33 I AM NOT TRYING TO BE DRAMATIC.

15:51:35 BUT IT WOULD BE AN HONOR, WOULD BE WONDERFUL FOR HER TO SEE

15:51:38 THE PARK AT LEAST TO CLOSE TO COMPLETION, WHATEVER, WHILE

15:51:42 SHE'S STILL WITH US.

15:51:43 I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

15:51:45 THANK YOU.

15:51:45 >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.

15:51:46 AND THE NEXT ITEM IS MINE AS WELL.

15:51:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, COUNCILMAN VIERA, WE HAVE 73 IS

15:51:55 THE FIRE STATION.




15:51:58 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM THAT.

15:52:05 OKAY, YOU ARE HERE AS WELL.

15:52:06 YES, MA'AM.

15:52:07 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST SAY THIS?

15:52:11 I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS, AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING ON THE VILA

15:52:14 BROTHERS PARK.

15:52:15 I THINK YOU KNOW THIS BUT ALL OF US ARE INTERESTED IN THIS

15:52:18 PARK.

15:52:19 IT'S NOT JUST A DISTRICT THING.

15:52:20 IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING FOR A LOT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE VILA

15:52:25 FAMILY BUT FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IN HONORING OUR VETERANS.

15:52:28 SO THANK YOU.

15:52:29 >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.

15:52:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 76.

15:52:32 >>OCEA WYNN: THAT'S A MEMO, THE REQUEST WAS TO FORM A YOUTH

15:52:38 ADVISORY COUNCIL, AND I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

15:52:42 REGARDING THE MEMO.

15:52:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.

15:52:46 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:52:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST GET THAT MEMO.

15:52:50 TELL ME ABOUT IT.

15:52:53 WYNN WITHIN YES, SIR, I WILL BE GLAD TO.

15:52:55 GLAD TO. IN RESPONSE TO THE -- OUR INTENT OR THE ASK TO

15:52:59 FORM A YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL, WHAT WE REPORTED, COUNCILMAN

15:53:05 GUDES, IS THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT UNDER MY




15:53:10 LEADERSHIP, WE FORM A PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COUNCIL.

15:53:15 WHAT THAT MEANS IS BE WE DID NOT SOLELY FOCUS ON INTERNAL

15:53:23 PARTNERS OR STAFF.

15:53:26 OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT WITH THE YMCA, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, THE

15:53:31 SKILLS CENTER, AS WELL AS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY'S PARKS AND

15:53:33 RECREATION DEPARTMENT, TEMPLE TERRACE, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,

15:53:37 AND PLANT CITY.

15:53:39 SO THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS FOR ALL OF US TO WORK

15:53:42 COLLABORATIVELY TO NOT ONLY ADVICE THE YOUTH SPORTS, BUT

15:53:45 SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES, THE EDUCATION, AND HOW WE ON BOARD

15:53:52 THE COACHES AND VOLUNTEERS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME

15:53:56 CONSISTENCY WITHIN THOSE PROCESSES, WE CAN LEARN FROM EACH

15:53:59 OTHER, AND WE CAN HAVE MORE OF AN ALIGNMENT.

15:54:02 PART OF THE INTENT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE AREAS WITHIN

15:54:07 OUR RESPECTIVE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE -- WHERE PEOPLE DO NOT

15:54:12 HAVE ACCESSIBILITY OR AFFORDABLE TO PARKS AND RECREATION

15:54:19 ACTIVITIES, THAT WE CAN IN FACT PROVIDE THAT TO THEM

15:54:23 THROUGH -- OR ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES THROUGH THE ADVICE OF

15:54:27 COUNCIL.

15:54:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE ON ACTIVITIES,

15:54:35 I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE TRYING TO GET A BIG SPECTRUM BUT THAT

15:54:39 WASN'T THE SPECTRUM I WAS LOOKING FOR AND THE DIRECTION I

15:54:41 WAS LOOKING FOR.

15:54:42 WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUTH SPORTS ISSUES.

15:54:44 AND THE BOYS ADD GIRLS CLUB, YMCA, THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF




15:54:49 THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE AT SOME OF OUR RECREATION

15:54:52 FACILITIES, WHERE SOME OF OUR OUTSIDE NONPROFIT

15:54:55 ORGANIZATIONS AS RELATES TO YOUTH SPORTS.

15:54:57 THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH YOUTH SPORTS, BACKGROUND

15:55:00 ISSUES WE GET CALLS, I CALL ALL THE TIME ABOUT ISSUES,

15:55:05 FIELDS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS ARE GOING ON, A LOT OF

15:55:09 FIGHTS EVERYBODY HAPPENING.

15:55:12 NOT ENOUGH FIELDS.

15:55:13 PEOPLE ARE FIGHTING OVER FIELDS.;

15:55:16 SO DEALING WITH THE COUNTY, TEMPLE TERRACE, PLANT CITY, AND

15:55:23 ALL THOSE ENTITIES, I WAS LOOKING MORE OF A YOUTH SPORTS

15:55:27 COMMISSION TO WHERE YOU COULD ADDRESS LOCAL ISSUES.

15:55:29 THE BIGGER ISSUES, WE HAVE GOT SOME OTHER ISSUES AT THE

15:55:34 BOTTOM DOWN HERE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE

15:55:37 A LOT OF CHAOS WITHIN THE WHOLE COUNTY AS RELATES TO YOUTH

15:55:41 SPORTS.

15:55:41 SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF LOOKING FOR WHEN I TALK ABOUT A

15:55:44 YOUTH SPORTS COMMISSION, NOT A BIG, BIG ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

15:55:52 >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.

15:55:52 SO PART OF THAT ADVISORY COUNCIL IS TO HAVE THOSE

15:55:55 SUBCOMMITTEES WHO WILL ACTUALLY ADDRESS EDUCATION, OR

15:55:59 ADDRESS YOUTH SPORTS, THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS OF INTEREST.

15:56:05 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE I'M ADDRESSING --

15:56:10 THAT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION OFFLINE, AND SO I CAN

15:56:14 INTEGRATE WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE INTO THE OVERALL --




15:56:20 OVERARCHING COMMUNITY, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE IN FACT

15:56:23 ADDRESSED.

15:56:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THE PARKS AND REC, FOR THEIR

15:56:32 ASSISTANCE, THE SPORTS, WE MET YEARS AND YEARS AND WE PRETTY

15:56:40 MUCH KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

15:56:44 BUT PRETTY MUCH KNOW WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AND NEED.

15:56:46 BUT WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK WE HAVE SOME

15:56:49 ISSUES THAT RELATES TO FOOTBALL, BASEBALL, SOME OF THE

15:56:53 ISSUES THAT WE ARE HAVING, AND STILL HEARING.

15:56:56 SO I JUST HOPE THAT THERE WILL BE A ROBUST DISCUSSION.

15:57:01 I KNOW THERE IS DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY

15:57:03 TRYING TO DO SOME THINGS AS PERTAINS TO YOUTH FOOTBALL

15:57:06 BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN COMING UP.

15:57:07 THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I AM FOCUSED ON.

15:57:09 A BIG BROADER PICTURE AS WELL, BUT THE BIG NEED IS DOWN AT

15:57:13 THE BOTTOM OF THE YOUTH SPORTS WYNN ONE YES, SIR.

15:57:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:57:27 THE NEXT THREE ITEMS ARE ALL FROM COUNCIL VIERA.

15:57:30 >>LUIS VIERA: 73, I DID A MOTION TO HAVE THAT COME BACK TO

15:57:35 US IN TWO MONTHS.

15:57:36 74 I AM FINE WITH THAT IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK ON THAT.

15:57:39 I THINK THE NUMBER SPEAKS FOR ITSELF AT THIS TIME.

15:57:41 AND 75, CHIEF TRIPP, I WAS TOLD YOU WEREN'T GOING TO BE

15:57:44 HERE.

15:57:46 GO AHEAD, MA'AM.




15:57:57 >>CHIEF TRIPP: WELCOME, LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

15:58:02 COUNCILMEMBER VIERA, I DID SPEAK ON THIS ON THE LAST SPECIAL

15:58:05 MEETING CONCERNING THAT ZIP CODE PART OF THE MASTER PLAN

15:58:09 THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO FOR THE ENTIRE CITY AS

15:58:14 RESPONSE TIME.

15:58:14 SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO ADD THAT TO THAT OR JUST

15:58:17 CONTINUE.

15:58:20 THAT IS PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO

15:58:22 IMPLEMENT SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR THAT AREA TO

15:58:26 INCREASE THAT TIME.

15:58:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR YOUR WORK IN THAT

15:58:31 REGARD.

15:58:33 I'LL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS IN THE 8 WEEKS WHEN IT

15:58:36 COMES BACK TO US.

15:58:38 THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED LONG-TERM VISIONS FOR.

15:58:42 AGAIN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE WORKFORCE HOUSING IN WEST

15:58:45 TAMPA THAT'S COMING UP.

15:58:47 AND THEN THERE'S MORE ISSUES THAT REQUIRE MORE IMMEDIATE

15:58:51 TRIAGE, HELP AND RESPONSE, AND I THINK SOME OF THE LEADING

15:58:56 TIMES IN 33647 ARE FOR THAT AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE

15:59:00 SOMETIMES 11, 12, 13 MINUTES, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM

15:59:03 WRONG, IN THAT REGARD.

15:59:05 SO I KNOW THAT FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE WATCHING

15:59:09 THIS AND MAY HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS ISSUE, THERE'S A

15:59:11 COUPLE OF THINGS THAT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE IS LOOKING FOR,




15:59:14 WHICH IS, NUMBER ONE, LOOKING TO HAVE A CUT-THROUGH ACCESS

15:59:17 FROM MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD INTO K-BAR RANCH TO ADDRESS THOSE

15:59:20 TIMES, AND ADDITIONALLY FIRE STATION I GUESS IT WOULD BE 24,

15:59:24 WE HAVE GOT 23 IN 2019, I BELIEVE IT WAS, 25 IS ABOUT TO

15:59:28 COME UP FOR NORTH TAMPA, AND 24 WILL RESPECTFULLY BE FOR

15:59:33 K-BAR RANCH, AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOMETHING POTENTIALLY

15:59:36 AS IN MEDICAL UNIT ONLY THERE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE

15:59:39 ISSUES.

15:59:40 SO I DO WANT THIS TO COME BACK TO US RELATIVELY SOON.

15:59:45 AGAIN, JUST GIVEN THE URGENT HUMAN ISSUE HERE, I GUESS IF

15:59:51 YOU WILL.

15:59:52 SO THAT'S IT.

15:59:53 WE CAN HAVE THAT COME BACK IN THE EIGHT WEEKS AND GO FROM

15:59:55 THERE.

15:59:56 BUT I AM FINE FOR NOW.

15:59:57 AND THANK YOU, MA'AM.

15:59:59 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.

16:00:02 YES, SIR?

16:00:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS STAFF HERE --

16:00:08 >>> FOR 77, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

16:00:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF TRIPP.

16:00:16 >>STEVEN BENSON: WELCOME, COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.

16:00:23 I THY BELIEVE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TO PULL UP, AND THE

16:00:28 PURPOSE IS TO REPORT BACK ON COUNCIL'S REQUEST THAT STAFF

16:00:31 AND THE COMMISSION LOOK INTO WAYS TO PROMOTE MORE MIXED USE




16:00:36 DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

16:00:38 AND I BELIEVE I WILL HAND IT OVER TO JAMES WITH THE PLANNING

16:00:43 COMMISSION.

16:00:43 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

16:00:44 >> JAY COLLINS WITH PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

16:00:55 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

16:00:56 STAFF IS HERE TODAY TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE THAT FRONT THAT MR.

16:01:00 BEN SON SPOKE OF.

16:01:04 NEXT SLIDE, THANK YOU.

16:01:06 ABOUT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

16:01:08 WE HAVE ACTUALLY PROVIDED A MEMO THAT WILL SPEAK TO IN A

16:01:12 LITTLE BIT.

16:01:13 WE ALSO PROVIDED ALREADY THE STUDY TO THIS BODY WHICH IS ON

16:01:16 FILE WITH YOU GUYS.

16:01:18 AGAIN, THIS IS GOING BACK TO THAT DECEMBER 2nd MEETING.

16:01:21 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS AT THAT DECEMBER 2nd MEETING

16:01:25 WAS THE CITY OF FT. LAUDERDALE, WHICH DOES HAVE A MIXED USE

16:01:29 RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY, AND IT HAS A REQUIREMENT FOR A 10%

16:01:32 SET-ASIDE OF A SECOND USE.

16:01:36 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

16:01:37 THAT ACTUAL CATEGORY HAS NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED WITHIN THE

16:01:40 CITY OF FT. LAUDERDALE.

16:01:42 IT EXISTS WITHIN ITS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT IT DOES NOT

16:01:46 EXIST ON THE LAND USE MAP.

16:01:48 SO IT IS NOT ACTUALLY BEING UTILIZED BY THE CITY OF




16:01:52 FT. LAUDERDALE TO TAKE IT ONE STEP FURTHER, THERE IS NOT

16:01:55 ACTUALLY ANY ZONING BOARD.

16:01:57 SO WE CALLED OUT THE CITY OF FT. LAUDERDALE, AND WE ASKED

16:02:01 THE QUESTION, SO WHAT'S UP?

16:02:03 SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM

16:02:05 ABOUT POLICY WAS THE CITY OF FT. LAUDERDALE IMMEDIATELY

16:02:08 STARTED TALKING ABOUT THEIR ACTIVITY CENTERS, WHICH ACTUALLY

16:02:12 INCENTIVIZED MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND PROVIDED THE AREA FOR

16:02:15 THAT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT TO GROW.

16:02:17 THEY TALKED ABOUT THEIR TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.

16:02:20 THEY HAVE TROLLEY, HEAVY RAIL, THEY HAVE BRIGHT LINE,

16:02:25 STREETCAR THROUGH DOWNTOWN, THEY HAVE SOME BUS RAPID

16:02:27 TRANSIT.

16:02:28 SO THEY BASICALLY TOLD US THAT THEY HAVE AN INCENTIVE

16:02:31 PROGRAM AND THEY HAVE SOME SECONDARY PLAN AND THEY HAVE SOME

16:02:34 INFRASTRUCTURE MR. B WHERE THAT MIXED USE GOES.

16:02:36 THAT MIXED USE CATEGORY ACTUALLY WENT INTO THEIR PLAN IN

16:02:41 2005.

16:02:42 SO IT'S BEEN SITTING IN THERE FOR THAT LONG BUT IT IS NOT

16:02:44 ACTUALLY BEEN IMPLEMENTED.

16:02:46 OKAY.

16:02:47 LIKE ANY GOOD STUDENT WE SAID WHAT CAN WE TAKE FROM

16:02:49 FT. LAUDERDALE AND SEE HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY APPLY THAT IN THE

16:02:53 CITY OF TAMPA, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVEN'T APPLIED IT, WHAT CAN

16:02:55 WE DO?




16:02:56 SO WE KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THIS BODY IS INTERESTED IN IS

16:02:59 SOME SORT OF A THRESHOLD FOR MIXED USE.

16:03:01 SO WHEN YOU COME IN, YOU COME IN AND YOU SAY, I'M BRINGING

16:03:05 5% SECOND USE, 10% SECOND USE, WHY AM I BRINGING TO THE

16:03:10 CITY?

16:03:11 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

16:03:12 THIS IS SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT'S

16:03:15 PROVIDED IN THAT MEMO TO YOU, PROVIDED TO YOU IN A

16:03:17 STRIKE-THROUGH UNDERLINE FROM TAMPA'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

16:03:22 WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THOUGH IS THE PROCESS OF HOW YOU

16:03:26 GO OUT HAVING THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS.

16:03:29 SO THE LANGUAGE IS OPTIONAL.

16:03:32 THE LANGUAGE IS NOT TO SAY WHETHER YOU ARE CONSISTENT OR

16:03:34 INCONSISTENT.

16:03:35 THIS IS A PROCEDURAL.

16:03:37 THE CONSISTENCY FINDINGS OF COMPATIBILITY ISSUES, THE USE

16:03:41 ISSUES AND OTHER THINGS.

16:03:42 THIS IS MORE OF A PROCEDURAL ISSUE.

16:03:44 THAT PROCEDURAL ISSUE WE TALK ABOUT IS WILL IN LAYMEN'S

16:03:50 TERMS TALK ABOUT THE SIZE OF A BUILDING.

16:03:51 THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING IS THE FLOOR AREA RATIO THAT YOU

16:03:54 HAVE THERE.

16:03:54 SO WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR SOME OF

16:03:57 THESE CATEGORIES THAT ARE IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR

16:04:00 DISTRICTS, COMMUNICATE COMMERCIAL 35, COMMUNITY MIXED USE




16:04:04 35, TODAY, ANYTIME YOU WANT TO GO FROM 1.5 TO A 2.0, THERE

16:04:12 ARE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IN THE

16:04:14 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO GET THERE.

16:04:15 ONE OF THEM IS TO PROVIDE MIXED USE.

16:04:18 HOWEVER, THERE IS NO THRESHOLD FOR WHAT THAT MIXED USE IS.

16:04:22 SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PUTTING INTO THE PLAN HERE FOR YOU TO

16:04:26 GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK ON, IS THAT THRESHOLD.

16:04:29 SO THE IDEA OF IT WOULD BE IF I DON'T BEAT 5% OR THE 1500

16:04:35 SQUARE FEET, WHICHEVER IS GREATER, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU

16:04:37 ARE INCONSISTENT ON THE SURFACE OF THAT.

16:04:39 IT MEANS THAT YOU WOULD GO INTO WHAT THE CITY ALREADY DOES

16:04:42 TODAY, WHICH IS A BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT.

16:04:46 SO THAT'S PART OF THE WAY IN WHICH THE CITY OPERATES ITSELF

16:04:49 AS IT MOVES FORWARD INTO THESE TWO LAND USES.

16:04:54 BASICALLY YOU ARE TIERING YOURSELF.

16:04:55 EVERY TIME YOU GO TO ANOTHER TIER THE CITY HAS ANOTHER TYPE

16:04:58 OF AGREEMENT IT WANTS YOU TO DO, OR OTHER PROVISIONS OF THE

16:05:02 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OR OF YOUR CODE THAT YOU MUST MEET.

16:05:05 SO THE LANGUAGE THAT IS OUT THERE TODAY FOR YOU IS ACTUALLY

16:05:10 ESTABLISHING A THRESHOLD.

16:05:13 IF YOU MEET THAT THRESHOLD WOULD YOU NOT HAVE TO GO INTO A

16:05:15 BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT.

16:05:16 AND WE HAVE TAKEN THIS ONE STEP FURTHER TO ACTUALLY EXPAND

16:05:20 THIS IDEA, NOT ONLY THE ARTERIALS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA

16:05:24 BUT ALSO THE COLLECTORS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHICH AGAIN




16:05:28 GIVES BETTER GUIDANCE ON FUTURE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN

16:05:32 OUR CITY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

16:05:34 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

16:05:36 SO WHAT'S NEXT?

16:05:37 WE ARE HERE.

16:05:38 WE WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK.

16:05:41 OBVIOUSLY WE PROVIDED YOU SO STRIKE THROUGH UNDERLINE

16:05:44 LANGUAGE.

16:05:45 YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE US, WE LIKE THAT LANGUAGE,

16:05:47 LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT LANGUAGE, WHEN CAN YOU ACTUALLY

16:05:50 HAVE THAT WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN?

16:05:52 THAT WOULD BE SIX TO NINE MONTHS TO ACTUALLY DO A TEXT

16:05:55 AMENDMENT.

16:05:55 IF YOU GO AND SAY THIS IS GOOD BUT I NOT GOING FAR ENOUGH,

16:05:58 WE HAVE SOME IDEAS IN WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THAT?

16:06:02 WE WOULD MOST LIKELY ROLL THAT INTO THE FUTURE LAND USE'S

16:06:05 UPDATE WHICH IS ONGOING RIGHT NOW, AND WOULD PROBABLY BE

16:06:08 COMING TO THIS BODY SOMETIME IN 2023.

16:06:13 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

16:06:15 BASICALLY, WITH THAT, THAT IS THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION.

16:06:19 AND AGAIN MYSELF AND MR. BEN SON OR MRS. GARANTIVA ARE

16:06:26 AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

16:06:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.

16:06:30 I KNEW YOU AND MR. BENSON COULD COME TO US WITH SOME

16:06:34 DIRECTIVE.




16:06:34 THIS WHOLE SUBJECT OF ME STARTING WITH A FORMER COUNCILMAN

16:06:37 AND MYSELF SAYING, OKAY, WE HAVE A DEVELOPER COMING IN, SAID

16:06:41 THEY WANT THE TERM MIXED USE ON THEIR BUILDINGS, AND THEY

16:06:44 HAVE A 30,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, BUT THEY ARE ONLY HAVING

16:06:49 500 SQUARE FOOT OF RETAIL.

16:06:51 TO ME THAT WASN'T MIXED USE.

16:06:54 THEN MY THOUGHT AS ALWAYS, HOW DO WE MAKE OUR COMMUNITY MORE

16:06:58 WALKABLE, MORE BIKEABLE, WHEN YOU BUILD A BUILDING, AND

16:07:02 AFTER YOU GET HOME YOU HAVE TO GET BACK IN YOUR CAR TO GO

16:07:05 OUT AND DO SOMETHING ELSE.

16:07:09 GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, RESTAURANT, SMALL SHOP, THAT IS THE

16:07:15 IDEA TO KEEP THE PEOPLE WALKING AND BIKING, IF NOT ON A

16:07:19 SCOOTER.

16:07:21 CASE IN POINT.

16:07:23 SPT JUST OPENED UP.

16:07:24 THEIR GROUND FLOOR RETAIL IS 100% LEASED.

16:07:29 IT'S NOT ALL BUILT OUT YET, BUT WHERE THE DENSITY IS, WHERE

16:07:34 THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO, THE GROUND FLOOR MIXED USE IS

16:07:38 GOING TO BE A NECESSITY.

16:07:41 NOW GOING BACK TO MY PRAYER STATEMENT.

16:07:44 DEFINING MIXED USE.

16:07:46 AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING A LEVEL IN THERE.

16:07:49 IN MY OPINION, IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO COME BEFORE US AS A

16:07:53 MIXED USE, THERE SHOULD BE THAT THRESHOLD THAT THEY SHOULD

16:07:57 HAVE TO MEET AND ADD THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO PRESENT TO US ON




16:08:03 THE REASONS WHY THAT THRESHOLD CAN'T BE MET.

16:08:08 I'M AT A DEAD-END ROAD, THE DENSITY IS NOT QUITE THERE FOR

16:08:13 IT YET.

16:08:13 SO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS, A LOT OF

16:08:17 MY CONCERNS, AND I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS THRESHOLD

16:08:20 CONCEPT, BUT I STILL FEEL THAT BURDEN OF PROOF SHOULD BE MET

16:08:29 BY THE DEVELOPERS.

16:08:30 >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.

16:08:34 THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

16:08:35 I AM GOING TO PICKY BACK A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT COUNCILMAN

16:08:38 CITRO SAID.

16:08:39 I THINK THRESHOLD IS GREAT.

16:08:40 MY QUESTION IS NINE TO FIVE AND NOT TEN.

16:08:42 >> THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

16:08:45 SO CURRENTLY ON OUR WORK WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, CURRENTLY A

16:08:49 LOT OF WHAT YOU ARE GETTING IS COMING IN AROUND TWO AND A

16:08:52 HALF TO THREE PERCEPT ON THE MIXED USE.

16:08:54 WE WENT TO FIVE%.

16:08:56 IT'S AN ASK ABOVE WHAT THE MARKET IS BRINGING.

16:08:58 BUT AGAIN THE 5% THRESHOLD IS TO GET YOU OUT OF ACTUALLY

16:09:02 GOING INTO THAT BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT.

16:09:05 AND MA'AM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ALSO, THE 1500 SQUARE

16:09:08 FEET, THAT'S COMING FROM COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE

16:09:11 PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE TELLING US WHAT'S THE BASIC ENTRY

16:09:14 LEVEL THAT'S USABLE SPACE FOR THE MARKET?




16:09:18 >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK MY CONCERN IS THAT THAT'S GREAT THAT

16:09:22 WE ARE JUST TRYING TO DO STEPS, BUT THIS CITY IS MOVING SO

16:09:28 MUCH FASTER THAT I'M AFRAID THAT IF WE START -- IF 5% IS THE

16:09:35 PORTION WITHIN FIVE YEARS, WE ARE GOING TO 15.

16:09:40 >> BY ALL MEANS, IF THE MARKET BEARS THAT, THE MARKET CAN

16:09:47 BEAR THAT, BECAUSE AGAIN AS WHAT COUNCILMAN CITRO ALLUDED TO

16:09:51 THE ENTIRE BOTTOM FLOOR IS FULL IN THAT AREA, SO IF THE

16:09:54 MARKET BEARS THAT IT SHOULD ACTUALLY HAVE 5%, 8%, 15%, 20%,

16:10:00 BUT WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS A MINIMUM OF 5 GETS YOU OUT OF THE

16:10:04 BON US PROVISION AGREEMENT, AND THAT IS IRRESPECTIVE TO

16:10:07 WHERE YOU ARE IN THE CITY AS WELL.

16:10:09 BECAUSE WE DID NOT LOOK AT THIS AS A REAL ESTATE

16:10:11 PROFESSIONAL WHO MIGHT SAY ONE DEVELOPMENT IS HOTTER THAN

16:10:17 ANOTHER.

16:10:17 AGAIN A LAND USE PLANNER, NOT REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS.

16:10:20 >>LYNN HURTAK: WOULD YOU CONSIDER POSSIBLY HAVING HIGHER

16:10:28 PERCENTAGE FOR THOSE MAIN ROADS VERSUS A SMALLER FOR

16:10:32 ARTERIALS? IS THAT A POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION?

16:10:35 >> YES, MA'AM.

16:10:35 THIS IS PART OF THIS CONVERSATION IS TO GET THAT TYPE OF

16:10:38 FEEDBACK FROM THIS GROUP.

16:10:40 YES.

16:10:40 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT.

16:10:42 THANK YOU.

16:10:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR THAT.




16:10:48 AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE BURDEN OF PROOF, IF WE SET IT

16:10:51 HIGHER, PETITIONERS CAN ALWAYS COME IN AND SAY, WE CAN'T

16:10:55 MEET THAT STANDARD NOW.

16:10:57 AND I SEE MR. BENSON SHAKING HIS HEAD NO.

16:11:01 BUT THAT IS STILL MY OPINION.

16:11:03 IF THE DEVELOPER MEETS THE BURDEN OF PROOF, WHETHER OR NOT

16:11:06 THE DENSITY IS NOT THERE NOW, THAT'S FINE.

16:11:09 BUT I THINK WE SHOULD SET OUR STANDARD A LITTLE HIGHER IN

16:11:13 ANTICIPATION TO THE RAPID GROWTH IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

16:11:16 >> I APOLOGIZE.

16:11:24 A CLARIFICATION THAT THIS WOULD JUST BE FOR PROJECTS THAT

16:11:26 SEEK TO MOCKIZE THEIR DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL SO YOU WILL

16:11:29 STILL GET PROJECTS THAT COME UNDER ONE.

16:11:33 THAT'S HOW THEIR LAND USES ARE EXTRAORDINARY.

16:11:35 THEY ARE INCENTIVES, NOT REQUIREMENTS ACROSS THE BOARD.

16:11:37 THAT'S WHY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS GOING FIND IN THEIR

16:11:40 RESEARCH.

16:11:41 WE ARE JUST NOT -- I THINK THAT IN PRINCIPAL WE AGREED THAT

16:11:45 THE MORE FIXING OF USES, ASSUMING YOU CAN ACTUALLY FILL

16:11:49 THOSE SPACES THE BETTER, BUT THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS OF

16:11:52 EACH PROJECT.

16:11:53 AND DEPENDING ON WHERE THE PROJECT IS LOCATED, IF IT'S ON AN

16:11:56 ARTERIAL ROADWAY, IF IT'S REALLY ISOLATED AND DOESN'T TOUCH

16:11:59 THE ARTERIAL EXCEPT FOR A SMALL PIECE, DOES THAT PROJECT

16:12:03 HAVE TO PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF A PROJECT THAT'S MAYBE AT




16:12:06 A CROSSROADS?

16:12:07 SO I AM NOT SURE WE ARE ABLE TO SOLVE THAT WITH THIS F.A.R.

16:12:11 AND OTHER MEASURES LIKE LOOKING AT PARKING, LOOKING AT SOME

16:12:15 OF THE PROVISIONS IN THE CODE THAT SPEAK TO THE REQUIREMENTS

16:12:20 AND DESIGN STANDARDS.

16:12:21 THERE ARE LOTS OF WAYS, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A

16:12:24 REASONABLE START BUT ALSO HAPPY TO LOOK AT HIGHER AMOUNTS

16:12:32 AND COME BACK.

16:12:32 >>BILL CARLSON: TO COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK, I KNOW YOU ARE IN

16:12:41 NEIGHBORHOOD AND PLANNING AND EVERYTHING.

16:12:43 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF ARE OUTSTANDING AND YOU

16:12:45 PROBABLY KNOW A BUNCH OF THEM, BUT THEY WILL STILL MEET WITH

16:12:48 YOU WHENEVER YOU WANT.

16:12:49 MOSTLY WE HEAR FROM THEM ABOUT LAND USE ISS