TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 7, 2022
9:00 A.M.





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09:02:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY HALL.

I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

IT IS MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO INTRODUCE LEE BELL,

PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE YBOR CITY CHAMBER.

NO STRANGER TO THIS COMMUNITY, HE REPRESENTS THE

BUSINESS LEADERS, THE COMMUNITY LEADERS OF YBOR CITY.

A GENTLEMAN THAT REALLY NEEDS NO INTRODUCTION BECAUSE

HE IS EVERYWHERE, MANY EVENTS INVOLVED IN MANY

DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.

MR. BELL, IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME ON FORWARD AND GO

AHEAD, SIR.

09:03:20 >> DEAR LOVING FATHER, LET ME SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF

OF ALL WHO ARE GATHERED HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY AND ABUNDANT BLESSINGS.

THANK YOU FOR LIFE ITSELF.

FOR THE PLEASURE OF HEALTH, WE NEED TO FULFILL YOUR

CALLING.

FOR SUSTENANCE AND FOR FRIENDSHIP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ABILITY TO BE INVOLVED IN USEFUL

WORK AND FOR YOUR HONOR OF BEARING APPROPRIATE

RESPONSIBILITIES.

THANKS, AS WELL, FOR THE FREEDOM TO EMBRACE YOU OR THE

FREEDOM TO REJECT YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVING US EVEN SO.

FOR YOUR BOUNDLESS AND GENEROUS NATURE.

EN.

09:03:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AMEN.

PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

09:04:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL DO THE FIRST ROLL CALL.

09:04:20 >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.

09:04:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.

09:04:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.

09:04:24 >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.

09:04:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.

09:04:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.

09:04:31 >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

09:04:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY, YOU WANT TO GO OVER

NOW OR AFTER?

OKAY.

MY PLEASURE THAT WE GO TO THE SWEARING IN TO THE NEWEST

MEMBER OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, COUNCILMEMBER-ELECT

HURTAK WILL SOON TO BE COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.

HOW DO YOU WISH TO DO IT?

GO DOWN THERE.

SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES WILL DO THE SWEARING IN.

09:05:04 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
I -- STATE YOUR NAME.

09:05:07 >> I, AMANDA LYNN HURTAK, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL

SUPPORT, UPHOLD, AND DEFEND THE CHARTER AND ORDINANCES

OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE

STATE OF FLORIDA AND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS

OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THAT I AM A RESIDENT

AND ELECTOR OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND AM ENTITLED TO

HOLD THE OFFICE OF COUNCILMEMBER OF THE CITY OF

TAMPA TO WHICH I HAVE BEEN APPOINTED AND

THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY PERFORM THE DUTIES OF SAID

POSITION INTO AND OF WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER.

SO HELP ME GOD.

I, AMANDA LYNN HURTAK, A CITIZEN OF THE STATE OF

FLORIDA AND OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND BEING

EMPLOYED BY OR AN OFFICER OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,

FLORIDA, AND RECIPIENT OF PUBLIC FUNDS AS SUCH EMPLOYEE

OR OFFICER DO HEARBY SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I

WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND

OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

09:06:58 >> CONGRATULATIONS.

[APPLAUSE]

09:07:18 >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.

09:07:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WELCOME TO THE FAMILY.

09:07:20 >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.

09:07:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE WILL TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS

BECAUSE MEMBERS OF THE -- THE COUNCILMEMBER'S FAMILY

ARE HERE.

FIVE-MINUTE RECESS FOR PHOTOGRAPHS AND WHATNOT, DO THE

NEW ROLL CALL AND START THE MEETING.

WE ARE IN RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.

09:15:25 >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.

09:15:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.

09:15:27 >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.

09:15:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.

09:15:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.

09:15:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.

09:15:33 >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

09:15:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY, BEFORE YOU BEGIN,

USF STUDENT GOVERNMENT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TOURING CITY

HALL.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE HERE OR WILL BE COMING LATER,

BUT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM.

I DON'T SEE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, BUT GO BULLS.

09:15:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GO BULLS.

09:15:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, MARTIN

SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

TODAY IS THE 7TH DAY OF APRIL, 2022.

WE HERE AT OLD CITY HALL AND THIS IS A REGULAR AGENDA.

THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA

ARE ABLE TO WATCH AND VIEW THIS ON SPECTRUM,

FRONTIER, AND ON THE INTERNET AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND HERE IN PERSON IN CITY

COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD, OR VIRTUALLY

PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING BY USING WHAT IS REFERRED AS

THE STATE OF FLORIDA STATUTES AS COMMUNICATION MEDIA

TECHNOLOGY.

KNOW TO SPEAK REMOTELY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THE

USE OF CMT, PREREGISTRATION IS REQUIRED AND THAT

INFORMATION IS ON THE AGENDA AS WELL AS ON THE NOTICE

OF TODAY'S MEETING.

AND ALSO THAT IS AVAILABLE ON TAMPA.GOV/CITY COUNCIL.

NOW TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY IN PUBLIC HEARINGS USING

CMT, PREREGISTRATION IS ALSO REQUIRED AND THAT IS

AVAILABLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE,

TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.

A NOTE TO THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE IN QUASI MATTERS

VIA CMT, SMARTPHONES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE, YOU MUST HAVE

ACCESS TO CMT WITH A TABLET, COMPUTER EQUIPPED WITH A

VIDEO AND MICROPHONE TO BE HEARD BY THE CITY COUNCIL

AND OTHER PARTICIPANTS.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL -- I AM

GOING TO ASK COUNCIL TO WAIVE THE RULES FOR THE

CONTINUATION OF CMT.

09:17:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR.

OPPOSED?

HOUSEKEEPING.

ITEM NUMBER 1 PER REQUEST OF COUNCILMAN VIERA.

A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO APRIL 21, SIR?

09:17:52 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.

WE HAD A MISS TIFFANY DAVIS FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT MONTH

AND UNABLE TO MAKE IT BUT IS ON APRIL 21 IF I MAY.

09:18:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

ALL IN FAVOR.

OPPOSED.

VERY GOOD.

ITEM NUMBER 47, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE HERE TO REMOVE

ITEM 47.

09:18:17 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM

THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE PETITIONER REGARDING

THIS ITEM AND IN DISCUSSION WITH THE PETITIONER, WE ARE

ASKING FOR THIS ITEM TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.

09:18:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO REMOVE.

MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

ALL IN FAVOR.

OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 78.

IF I CAN HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS UP TO BE HEARD

AFTER ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.

09:18:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION.

09:18:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

09:18:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED?

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM -- STAFF REPORT 66-79.

PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF WE NEED ANY STAFF PRESENT FOR ANY

OF THESE ITEMS.

ITEM NUMBER 66.

THIS IS 400 -- WELL, $850,000 ITEM.

ACTUALLY, THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE 66 TO MAY 5,

2022 TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL TIME MOTION FROM

COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT WILL BE CONTINUED MAY 5, 2022.

ITEM 67 IS A $3 MILLION CONTRACT.

BRAD BAIRD SENT A MEMO.

DO WE NEED HIM PRESENT FOR THIS?

09:19:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AM SATISFIED.

09:19:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY?

MR. BAIRD, YOU ARE NOT NEEDED FOR 67.

ITEM 68, AN ITEM WITH MR. BAIRD OF $5 MILLION.

DO WE NEED THE GENTLEMAN PRESENT AT THAT TIME FOR THAT?

09:19:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I ASKED A QUESTION OF MR. BAIRD

INCLUDED IN THE PURE PROJECT.

I AM SATISFIED.

09:19:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM 69, $6.2 MILLION.

ALSO MR. BAIRD, ANYBODY HAVE REQUEST TO HAVE HIM

PRESENT.

09:19:59 >>BILL CARLSON:
FOLLOW ON WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN CITRO

AND I ASKED MR. BAIRD IF HE WAS PART OF THE PURE

PROJECT AND HE SAID NO SO I AM SATISFIED.

09:20:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DON'T NEED MR. BAIRD FOR 69.

ITEM 70, A MEMORANDUM FROM CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP.

A $3 MILLION ITEM.

DO WE NEED CHIEF TRIPP PRESENT FOR 70?

09:20:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I HAVE SPOKEN TO CHIEF TRIPP, I AM

SATISFIED.

09:20:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

09:20:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NUMBER 70, CHIEF TRIPP WILL NOT

NEED TO BE IN PERSON.

ITEM 71 IS A $1.5 MILLION ITEM ALSO PART OF 70, PART

TWO OF TWO.

ANY QUESTIONS?

09:20:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGAIN, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH CHIEF TRIPP.

09:20:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT, NUMBER 72 IS A STAFF

REPORT ON THE VILA BROTHERS PARK WHICH IS MY ITEM.

09:20:48 >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK WE SHOULD -- JUST FOR THE SAKE

OF THE PUBLIC WE SHOULD HAVE --

09:20:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AGREE.

09:20:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I THINK SO WE SHOULD TOO.

I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MISS MARTHA VILA AND OTHER

IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.

I HAVE THE REPORT, BUT I WOULD LIKE THE PUBLIC TO

HEARING.

72, MISS OCEA WYNN TO BE PRESENT.

NUMBER 73.

09:21:12 >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, FOR 73, WE HAVE A DETAILED

MEMO.

I AM GOING TO MOTION FOR THIS TO RETURN TO US IN 60

DAYS.

FOR TAMPA FIRE STATION 24.

IT NOTES, I GUESS, THE USF PART OF TOWN, 33647 AND

WHATNOT.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED CHIEF TRIPP HERE FOR THIS BUT I

WILL SPEAK ON THIS WHENEVER THE TIME COMES.

09:21:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUNE 2 AND JUNE 16.

THOSE ARE REGULAR SESSIONS.

09:21:40 >>LUIS VIERA:
YEAH, THAT IS GREAT.

JUNE 2, IF I MAY.

09:21:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO

CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER --

09:21:47 >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, SIR, THANK YOU.

NOT TO CONTINUE BUT TO HAVE IT COME BACK FOR AN UPDATED

REPORT FOR THE TWO STATIONS AND THEIR STATUS.

SO WE WILL DEAL WITH IT TODAY, BUT IT WILL COME BACK

FOR CONTINUED SCRUTINY.

09:21:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHEN YOU SAY DEAL WITH IT TODAY,

YOU WANT STAFF TO COME ON THAT ITEM TODAY?

09:22:06 >>LUIS VIERA:
WHENEVER THE ITEM COMES UP WE CAN

DISCUSS IT AND I WILL TALK ABOUT MY THOUGHTS BUT I

DON'T NEED CHIEF TRIPP HERE.

09:22:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU WANT TO HOLD THE MEMO -- OR

MAKE A MOTION THEN.

09:22:17 >>LUIS VIERA:
I CAN DO IT NOW.

09:22:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR

JUNE 2 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER 74.

09:22:31 >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, SIR -- NO, THAT WAS YOURS,

SORRY.

09:22:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MY MOTION.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT?

09:22:37 >>LUIS VIERA:
I ASSUMED IT WAS MINE.

VIERA, CITRO.

TO RESCHEDULE.

YEAH, I DON'T -- AGAIN, I JUST WANTED SOME INFORMATION

HERE.

THE REPORT IS VERY DETAILED.

I DON'T -- FOR THE SAKE OF THE STAFF, I DON'T NEED THEM

HERE.

WE CAN DISCUSS IT IF ANYBODY NEEDS ANY ANYTHING.

09:22:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE WILL DISCUSS IT WITH STAFF.

ITEM 75, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.

COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOUR MOTION REGARDING RESPONSE TIMES

--

09:23:06 >>LUIS VIERA:
I AM SORRY, MAY I --

09:23:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL COME BACK TO YOU, IF YOU

WANT.

ITEM NUMBER 76, A MEMO FROM OCEA WYNN, PARKS AND REC.

REPORT ON A YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL.

THAT IS A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

WOULD YOU LIKE SOMEONE PRESENT, SIR?

09:23:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

09:23:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 76 WILL HAVE SOMEONE

PRESENT.

ITEM NUMBER 77, THIS IS A MOTION ORIGINALLY FROM

DINGFELDER, SECONDED BY CARLSON.

THIS IS -- THIS IS SPECIFIC POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO

DISCUSS REQUIREMENTS INCENTIVES BASED ON THE FLORIDA

MODEL AND RESEARCH.

DO YOU WISH TO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE?

WE DO HAVE A REPORT FROM STEPHEN BENSON.

09:23:49 >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK IT WILL BE WORTH A COUPLE OF

MINUTES, IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE, TO SEE IF ANYTHING WE CAN

DO.

09:23:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
STEPHEN BENSON AVAILABLE FOR 77.

CHIEF OF STAFF AND CEO.

I KNOW THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS HERE.

THE COLLABORATIVE OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL OF

CREATING THE NEXT BUDGET.

A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

WAS THE BUDGET ADVISORY COUNCIL GOING TO APPEAR IN

PERSON, SIR?

09:24:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THEY DISCUSSED IT AT THEIR MEETING,

AND THEIR CHAIR JOSEPH JOHNSON WILL BE IN THE CHAMBERS

AND AVAILABLE.

09:24:24 >>BILL CARLSON:
THE PURPOSE OF THIS -- I TALKED TO THE

CFO YESTERDAY, THE PURPOSE OF THE MOTION TO HAVE THE

CFO HEAR FROM US WHAT OUR IDEAS ARE ABOUT HOW THE

PROCESS SHOULD BE HANDLED.

LAST YEAR OR TWO, CHIEF OF STAFF PROPOSED A PROCESS TO

GET FEEDBACK FROM US WHICH IS A LOT BETTER THAN THE WAY

THINGS HAVE BEEN BEFORE BUT YOU MAY HAVE IDEAS HOW IT

CAN BE DONE BETTER.

09:24:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
KEEP AT LEAST CHIEF OF STAFF AND

MR. ROGERO HERE.

AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE CITIZENS BOARD.

ALL RIGHT, THAT'S THAT.

79.

TO DISCUSS AN ADDITIONAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO BE

ADDED TO THE CALENDAR TO ADDRESS THE BACKLOG.

THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS COUNCILMAN VIERA.

I SECONDED IT.

ANYTHING, SIR?

09:25:09 >>LUIS VIERA:
SORRY, LOOKING FOR SOMETHING ON 75.

09:25:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ABOUT ADDING AN ADDITIONAL COUNCIL

MEETING.

OKAY.

AND LAST, MR. SHELBY REGARDING CHARTER REVIEW WORKSHOP,

OF COURSE, YOU ARE HERE.

09:25:23 >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.

75 WAS GOING TO BE AN IN-PERSON REPORT FOR CHIEF TRIPP

WHENEVER THAT COMES OUT.

APPEARS THERE IS NO REPORT FOR THAT.

IF MY UNDERSTANDING WAS INCORRECT, I WILL JUST HAVE

ADMINISTRATION FOLKS CONTACT ME IN THE MEANWHILE IF MY

UNDERSTAND SOMETHING INCORRECT.

09:25:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO ONE -- CHIEF TRIPP NOT HERE FOR

75.

09:25:45 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, FOR THE TIME BEING.

IN OUR BREAK OR WHATEVER I WILL DISCUSS -- I HAD

A MISUNDERSTANDING.

I TYPICALLY TRY TO -- IF STAFF DOESN'T NOT NEED TO BE

HERE I TYPICALLY TRY NOT TO HAVE THEM.

BUT THIS MAY NECESSITATE THAT.

09:26:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PARTICULAR BE CLEAR.

ARE YOU ASKING CHIEF TRIPP TO BE ON STAND BY FOR THAT?

09:26:10 >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL STEP OUTSIDE AND SPEAK WITH HER

IN THE MEANWHILE TO SEE IF IT NECESSITATES.

FOR NOW, YES, SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

09:26:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.

THAT CONCLUDES THE LIST THAT I HAVE -- YES, MA'AM?

WE HAVE A LETTER FROM ANDREW CARNEGIE REQUESTING THAT

ITEM NUMBER 58 BE CONTINUED TO MAY 5.

09:26:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND THIS IS A 10:30 PUBLIC HEARING.

09:26:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.

09:26:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE IT UP AT THAT

TIME.

09:26:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAY 5 AT 10:30 TIME CERTAIN.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE --

09:26:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SIR, NO.

WE CAN NOT DO THAT BECAUSE YOU CANNOT CONTINUE IT UNTIL

SOME TIME AFTER 10:30.

09:26:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE WILL LEAVE THAT.

I AM SORRY.

SAME THING FOR ITEM NUMBER 60, A 10:30.

ITEM.

AND NUMBER 62 THE MOTION TO WITHDRAW.

WE WILL DO THAT WHEN WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AT

10:30.

ANYTHING ELSE?

IF NOT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

09:27:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SO MOVED.

09:27:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.

09:27:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

ALL RIGHT, CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES -- NOT CEREMONIAL BUT

NECESSARY.

WE HAVE THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO

UPDATE COUNCIL ON PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

THERE IS A POWERPOINT.

FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION, HE WILL GO TO PUBLIC

COMMENT.

IS FDOT AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON?

YES, SIR, MR. VBIDE.

09:27:38 >>VIK BHIDE:
GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

FDOT IS AVAILABLE AND SHOULD BE LOGGING IN RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE CRAIG FOX, PROJECT MANAGER WITH FDOT.

BEFORE CRAIG GETS GOING, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THE TWO

PROJECTS THAT FDOT IS GOING TO PRESENT TODAY AND HOW IT

FITS INTO OUR STRATEGY.

THE FIRST IS TAMPA AND FLORIDA, MULTIMODAL PROJECT.

THIS WAS, OF COURSE, THE RAISE GRANT THAT BOTH FDOT AND

THE CITY WON.

AND FDOT WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SUPPLEMENT FUNDING TO

COMPLETE THE PROJECT FUNDING.

THIS PROJECT IS CRITICAL TO SUPPORT OUR STREETCAR

EXTENSION, THE VRT PROJECT THAT BOTH HART AND THE CITY

IS WORKING ON.

TOD PLANS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH HEART ON TO ENSURE

THAT WE BUNDLE HOUSING AND TRANSIT TOGETHER.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE ARE GOING TO DO MORE OF

CITYWIDE.

AND THEN FINALLY THE FOWLER AVENUE PIECE OF THE VRB

PROJECT THAT WILL CONNECT DOWNTOWN TO USF WHICH IS IN

THE CITY AND REGION'S LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

SO BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS ARE CRITICAL.

THEY WILL BRING ALL KINDS OF IMPROVEMENTS.

PARTICULARLY OUR COMMITMENT TO LOW TO NO COST ACCESS

FOR TAMPANIANS TO JOBS.

HAVING SAID THAT, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO CRAIG FOX.

CRAIG, TAKE IT AWAY.

09:29:13 >>CRAIG FOX:
THANK YOU, VIK.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.

I JUST NEED THE ABILITY OR GRANTED THE ABILITY TO SHARE

MY SCREEN.

I DON'T THINK I HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW.

IF SOMEBODY CAN GRANT ME THAT ABILITY.

THERE WE GO.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

CAN EVERYBODY SEE THE SCREEN?

09:29:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

09:29:42 >> EXCELLENT, THANK YOU, CRAIG FOX WITH FLORIDA DOT.

AND WE WILL GET INTO THE UPDATE ON THE TWO PROJECTS.

THE TAMPA STREET FLORIDA AVENUE MULTI MODAL PROJECT.

THE PROJECT LIMITS OF THIS PROJECT FROM FOWLER STREET

ON THE SOUTHERN END TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.

BOULEVARD ON THE NORTHERN END.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO BE

BROKEN OUT IN PHASED CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE WILL HAVE ONE PORTION GO FIRST AND THE SECOND

PORTION TO THE NORTH GO OVER IT.

BUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC, IT WILL LOOK LIKE THIS WHOLE

PROJECT.

THE WORK TO BE DONE IS IT WILL PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR

FUTURE TRANSIT LANE.

PROVIDE NEW AND UPGRADED DRAINAGE IN AREAS WHERE TODAY

THERE ARE -- SOME PLACES NO DRAINAGE EXISTS BECAUSE THE

ROAD IS SO OLD.

ROTARY RECONSTRUCTION BRINGING UP TO MODERN STANDARDS.

AND SIDEWALKS AND SPOTS AND INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS

THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT CORRIDOR.

THE EXISTING TYPICAL SECTION IS ON THE SCREEN.

AND IT RANGES FROM TEN THREE-FOOT TO 12-FOOT LANES TO

FIVE FOOT TO SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT SIDEWALK IN CERTAIN

AREAS.

NOW WHAT I HAVE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN IS THE PROPOSED

ULTIMATE TYPICAL SECTION THAT INVOLVES A LANE REDUCTION

THAT WILL ADD AN EXCLUSIVE LANE ON NORTH CHANNEL STREET

AND NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE AND PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY

FOR WIDER SIDEWALKS.

I WANT TO KNOW THIS IS A PROPOSED SECTION.

AS WE KNOW HART IS CURRENTLY GOING AFTER -- SEEKING

ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

ONCE THAT FUNDING IS REALIZED WE WILL BE ADD THE

ELEMENTS.

LIKE VIK MENTIONED, THIS IS PROVIDING A LOT OF THE

GROUNDWORK FOR IMPORTANT DRAINAGE SUBJECTS TO GET AHEAD

OF THE STREETCAR SO WE DON'T COME BACK IN THE FUTURE TO

INTERRUPT THE STREET CAR LINE AND CREATE A SPACE FOR

FUTURE ENHANCED VRT.

AND YOU MAY NOT SEE IT FOR THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE

ULTIMATE TYPICAL SECTION AND THAT IS EASY TO LENT

BECAUSE ADDED CURBS HERE AND THERE IN ORDER TO MAKE

THAT VRT HAPPEN.

NEXT TO TOUCH ON THE ANALYSIS OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

OBJECTIVE LEVEL OF SERVICE WHICH IS A KNOWN CONCERN

WHENEVER WE REDUCE LANES ON A ROADWAY.

WE SHOW NO-BUILD INTERSECTION OF SERVICE IN THE DESIGN

YEAR AND THE NEXT SLIDE, I HAVE THE BUILD CONDITIONS.

THIS IS AN OPTION WITHOUT THE BRT LINES AND WITH THE

LANES.

I HIGHLIGHTED THE INTERSECTIONS THAT CHANGE THE LEVEL

OF BEFORE -- I WILL SWITCH BACK THE REPORTS.

GOES FROM C TO D WHICH IS NOT THAT DRASTIC OF A CHANGE

AND IN FLORIBRASK A ISLAND AND NO-BUILD WITH A D.

AND A LITTLE IMPROVEMENT AND THE REST OF THE CORRIDOR

YOU DON'T SEE REDUCTION IN LOCAL SERVICES.

VERY GOOD THAT WILL HAVE THAT INCREASED TRANSIT WITHOUT

DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS TO THE ROADWAY.

THE DESIGN IS IN PROGRESS AS WE SPEAK.

CONTRACT PROCUREMENT IS SLATED TO BEGIN SUMMER OF 2022.

AND CONSTRUCTION SLATED TO BEGIN IN SPRING OF 2023.

NOW THE NEXT PART I WANT TO MENTION FOWLER AVENUE

MULTIMODAL PROJECT.

THE STUDY GOES FROM THE WEST END OF FLORIDA

TO THE EAST END AT 56TH STREET.

TWO MAJOR COMPONENTS WITHIN THIS PROJECT, THEY ARE

HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SCREEN AS A MEDIAN GUIDEWAY AND

INTERSECTIONS.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THE MEDIAN GUIDE.

AND INCREASE THE EFFECTIVELY OF THE ROADWAY BETWEEN

BRUCE B. BOULEVARD.

AND THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE LIMITS OF THE STUDY WE ARE

LOOKING TO ADD ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROADWAY WHENEVER

POSSIBLE.

THE STUDY BEGINS THIS SPRING.

WE JUST FINISHED NEGOTIATIONS AND ANTICIPATING

EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT VERY SHORTLY.

THE PUBLIC ALTERNATE WORKSHOP THAT WILL OCCUR LATE '22

AND EARLY 2023.

WILL BEGIN AS EARLY AS 2024.

CONSTRUCTION IS 2026.

I DO WANT TO NOTE, AGAIN, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH TIED IN

WITH THE HART STUDY OF ARTERIAL BRT.

SO THE CONSTRUCTION FUNDING MAY BE DEPENDING ON THE

AVAILABILITY PART TO PROVIDE THE OPERATION AND

MAINTENANCE FOR THAT ROUTE.

WE WANT TO GET ALL THE GROUNDWORK OUT OF THE WAY AND

STUDY OUT OF THE WAY SO THE DEPARTMENT IS NOT DELAYING

ANY FUTURE TRENDS ALONG THIS CORRIDOR BUT A VERY

EXCITING PROJECT.

I WILL GO TO THE THREE ALTERNATIVES FOR THE MEDIAN

GUIDEWAY PORTION.

BUSINESS EXIT TRANSIT LANE.

ALL THREE OPTIONS, YOU WILL NOTICE WE ARE REDUCING THE

LANE ON FOWLER AVENUE FROM FOUR LANES TO THREE LANES,

GENERAL PURPOSE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.

THE FIRST OPTION IS THE BUSINESS TRANSIT LANE.

WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THESE ONE IN CONSTRUCTION IN

PINELLAS COUNTY WITH PSTA.

THEY WILL OPEN LATER THIS SUMMER AND AN EXAMPLE FOLKS

CAN LOOK AT FOR THE TRANSIT LANE.

THE SECOND ALTERNATIVE IS A FRONTAGE ROAD SYSTEM SHOWN

ON THE SCREEN AND THIRD ONE IS THE MEDIAN TRANSIT WAY.

WE ARE DEFINITELY EXCITED FOR THIS PROJECT.

WE LOOK TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC CLOSER

TO THE END OF THE YEAR TO GET MORE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION

AND GO IN AND SELECT THE TRANSIT ALTERNATIVE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME THIS

MORNING AND REMIND EVERYBODY THAT SAFETY DOESN'T HAPPEN

BY ACCIDENT.

AND NOW LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

09:35:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WONDERFUL PRESENTATION ON SOME OF OUR BUSIEST

CORRIDORS, TAMPA STREET, FLORIDA AVENUE, THEY WERE NOT

THOSE ONE-WAY STREETS.

60 YEARS AGO WHEN THE TRAFFIC PATTERN CHANGED THROUGH

THE HEIGHTS AND SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND TAMPA HEIGHTS.

AND GOOD TO SEE IT IS GOING BACK TO A PEDESTRIAN FOCUS

INSTEAD OF JUST MOVING CARS ON THE ROAD.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS ON TAMPA STREET, YOU KNOW,

THEY ARE NEVER NEAR CAPACITY.

THEY ARE NEVER -- I MEAN IT'S MY -- I DON'T USE THE

INTERSTATE.

I GET DOWNTOWN, TAMPA STREET.

CITY HALL IN 12 MINUTES OR LESS, BUT ALSO WE HAVE

PEOPLE WHO BIKE GOING DOWN TAMPA STREET COMING INTO

DOWNTOWN FROM THE HEIGHTS AND REVERSE DIRECTION OF

FLORIDA AVENUE AND IT IS VERY, VERY DANGEROUS.

THOSE ARE NECESSARY.

FOWLER AVENUE, ALSO BUSCH BOULEVARD, ANOTHER BUSY, BUSY

ROAD.

COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS WORKED VERY, VERY HARD TO MAKE

SURE THAT THOSE ROADS CHANGE WHERE THEY ARE SAFER.

WE HAVE ADOPTED VISION ZERO.

WE EMBRACE THOSE POLICIES, BUT WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT THE

RIGHT LAN TO ENFORCE THOSE.

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:36:41 >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE SAID THIS MANY TIMES BUT FOWLER

AVENUE AND BUSCH BOULEVARD ARE TAMPA'S GATEWAY TO THE

WORLD.

MOST OF THE CEOS I MET IN LATIN AMERICA AND OTHER

PLACES WHO HAVE BEEN TO TAMPA MOSTLY ONLY HAVE BEEN TO

BUSCH GARDENS AND STAY IN ORLANDO, STAY ON THE BEACH

AND COME TO BUSCH GARDENS.

THEIR IMPRESSION OF COMPANY IS FOWLER AVENUE AND BUSCH

BOULEVARD.

PLANS BACK TO LINDA SAUL-SENA TO TRY TO BEAUTIFY THOSE

ROADS.

GLAD YOU ARE WORKING ON THE PLANS YOU SHOWED FOR FOWLER

AVENUE.

SOME PLAN TO BEAUTIFY IT OR THE CITY IS PARTNERING WITH

D.O.T. TO BEAUTIFY THAT AND MAKE IT MORE OF A GATEWAY

TO THE WORLD.

THE IDEA IS IF WE PUT ON A GOOD IMPRESSION, THEY WILL

WANT TO MOVE HERE, INVEST HERE AND SET UP THEIR

OVERSEAS OPERATION IN.

THANK YOU.

09:37:33 >> YES, AS FAR AS BEAUTIFICATION AND AESTHETICS GO, IN

THE STUDY, NOT SOMETHING -- WE IDENTIFIED LANDSCAPE

OPPORTUNITIES, BUT IT IS JUST BETTER FOR THOSE WHO BE

HANDLED DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS BUT WE ARE ENGAGING

-- WE ARE GOING TO BE ENGAGING IN ROBUST PUBLIC

ENGAGEMENT TO GET INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR

POTENTIAL AESTHETICS.

THE STUDY ITSELF, NOT A PART OF IT BECAUSE BETTER TO

HANDLE IT IN DESIGN AND MORE INFORMATION OF THE

DIMENSIONS OF THE ROAD AND WHERE YOU CAN FIT CERTAIN

AESTHETICS.

09:38:02 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.

09:38:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYONE ELSE?

COUNCILMAN VIERA.

09:38:05 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ONE THING I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION

THINK THAT REALLY LIKE IS, IT HAS A DIALOGUE ON A LOT

OF STREETS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT WERE -- THAT WERE

VERY UNSAFE.

BUT NOT ALWAYS IN THE NEWS.

LET'S JUST CALL A FACT A FACT.

WHICH IS A LOT OF TIMES TRAGEDY THAT HAPPENS ON

HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, ON REVEREND MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD,

JR., ON BUSCH, ON FLORIDA, NEBRASKA AND FOWLER AND DO

NOT MAKE THE NEWS FOR ONE REASON OR THE OTHER BUT THEY

GOT TO MAKE OUR COUNCIL.

THEY GOT TO MAKE OUR CITY.

THEY GOT TO MAKE FDOT BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE THE

MOST TRAGEDIES.

ALL OF THE PARTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA HAVE TO BE

PROTECTED 110% BUT WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON AREAS WHERE WE

HAVE THESE SIGNIFICANT HUMAN TRAGEDIES THAT JUST SEEM

TO HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

IF YOU GOOGLE WHAT ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS STREETS IN

TAMPA, THESE ARE GOING TO COME UP.

HILLSBOROUGH, MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR., BUSCH, NEBRASKA,

FOWLER, ETC.

WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON THAT.

I WILL PROBABLY MAKE A MOTION AT THE END FOR SOMETHING

OF THIS NATURE TO COME BACK MAYBE IN A WORKSHOP IN

THREE TO FOUR MONTHS ON SOME OF THESE ROADS BECAUSE WE

HAVE TO CONTINUE TO UTILIZE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO, I THINK, IS WE

OBVIOUSLY HAVE FDOT AND STATE DOLLARS THAT SAID WE CAN

UTILIZE AND HOPEFULLY EFFECTIVELY IN A SMART WAY THAT

IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS MAKING SURE

THAT WE CAN USE REVENUE THAT COMES FROM THE WILL OF THE

PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW YESTERDAY, THERE WAS A -- A DISCUSSION HELD IN

COUNTY COMMISSION ON A SALES TAX.

AND I -- AND I WILL SAY IT -- I SAID IT IN '16 WHEN I

RAN AND I SAID IT IN '18 WHEN WE VOTED FOR

TRANSPORTATION.

'19 WHEN I RAN AGAIN AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN.

WE NEED ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO MAKE TAMPA AND

HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SAFE AND TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT

PEOPLE BETTER AND BRING US TO THE 21ST CENTURY.

REALLY TO BRING US TO THE 20TH CENTURY, IF YOU ASK ME,

IN SOME WAYS AND THAT IS A REALLY CRITICAL THING.

WITHOUT THAT MONEY, WE COULD CATCH A BREAK FROM

TALLAHASSEE FOR THE REVENUE WE RECOUPED OVER THE LAST

TWO YEARS.

WITHOUT THAT MONEY IN THE FUTURE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE

MAJOR PROBLEMS.

CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE MAJOR PROBLEMS.

READ ABOUT THESE TRAGEDIES CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.

I WANTED TO PUT MY THOUGHT ON THAT.

THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND FOCUS ON

THESE AREAS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

09:40:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THE WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:40:45 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MARTIN -- I HAVE

MY CITY ISSUED CELL PHONE.

TODAY, I WAS NOT ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO A LAPTOP, AND I

WOULD LIKE ACCESS TO SIRE SO MY AIDE DOESN'T HAVE TO

PRINT THE 400 PAGES.

SIRE AND HAVE IT ON THE CELL PHONE.

-- I AM NOT LOOKING AT TEXT MESSAGES -- AM I ALLOWED

TO LOOK AT SIRE ON MY CITY ISSUED CELL PHONE.

09:41:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WOULD SAY YES.

YOU ARE SAYING USE YOUR CITY CELL PHONE TO ACCESS SIRE

AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE VIEWING DURING THE

COURSE OF THE MEETING.

09:41:23 >>BILL CARLSON:
I AM DOING IT FOR TRANSPARENCY, BUT

MEMBERS OF THE ADMINISTRATION ARE LOOKING TO TRY FIND

THE SMALLEST MISTAKES, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE

PUBLIC KNOWS THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING.

09:41:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SEEING NOTHING ELSE ON ITEM NUMBER 2.

GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

IF YOU ARE HERE IN PERSON, AS YOU APPROACH THE LECTERN,

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

GO AHEAD.

09:41:54 >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.

I'M HERE THIS MORNING.

I WANT TO STAY WELCOME TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

GLAD TO SEE YOU ARE HERE.

TUESDAY, I SAT IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM WATCHING MANY

GREAT CITIZENS SPEAK TO WHY THEY WOULD BE THE CANDIDATE

FOR CITY COUNCIL.

AS I WATCHED, I WONDERED, WOULD WE HAVE FOUR VOTES FOR

THE MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE DESPITE THE MAYOR'S

ENDORSEMENT OF ANOTHER.

I WAS ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT THE RETALIATION OF THE VOTE.

WELL, THAT DIDN'T TAKE BUT A DAY.

FOR THE RECORD, I MAKE NO MONEY, ZIP, NADA FOR COMING

HERE, FOR WORKING FOR THE CITIZENS.

AT ONE TIME, I CONSIDERED RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

AND IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, IT HAS SHOWN ME THERE

IS NOT A CHANCE OF THAT EVER HAPPENING, BECAUSE FOLKS

WHO SIT UP THERE CONSTANTLY ARE IN JEOPARDY OF MAKING A

VOTE THAT MAKES THEM THE NEXT TARGET.

ALL FOR A WHOPPING $53,000 A YEAR.

NOPE.

THANKS ANYWAY.

I HAVE MET QUITE A FEW GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE IN

DEVELOPMENT.

AND LOTS OF GOOD LAND USE ATTORNEYS WHO ARE HONORABLE

PEOPLE WHO DO THINGS THE WAY THAT THE ETHIC RULES

STATE.

AND THEN THERE ARE THOSE PEOPLE WHO FEEL LIKE THE RULES

DON'T APPLY TO THEM.

THEY SET THEIR PHONES ON AUTO DELETE TEXT MESSAGES,

ONLY TALK ON PHONES SO THERE ISN'T ANY RECORD OF

CONVERSATIONS.

OR THEY GET OUT OF CARS AND LEAVE CITY FOLKS ALONE WITH

PEOPLE BIDDING ON PROJECTS AND WANT TO BE THE FOURTH

VENDOR ON A PROJECT WHERE THREE VENDORS HAVE ALREADY

BEEN ACCEPTED.

I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT THE MAYOR DECIDED YESTERDAY

TO BRING OUT THE TALK ABOUT LOBBYISTS.

I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET CITY STAFF TO LOOK AT THE

LOBBYIST REGISTRATION FOR MONTHS.

LOBBYISTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REGISTERING.

IT ISN'T THE JOB OF ANY CITY OFFICIALS OR STAFF MEMBERS

TO REGISTER.

SO WHY SPEAK ABOUT THEM AT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE

ATTACKING CITY COUNCIL?

FOLLOW THE FLIES.

THANKS, KEELA, I LOVE THE TERM.

I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING MORE APPROPRIATE ABOUT --

ABOUT STATEMENT ABOUT THE STINK OF WHAT IS GOING ON

DOWN HERE.

I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THE ETHICS COMMITTEE MEETS ON APRIL

12 AT 1:00 ON THE FIFTH FLOOR OR 21ST AT 3 P.M. I AM

EXCITED TO SEE IT.

THANK YOU TO CREATIVE LOAFING AND THE TIMES FOR

REPORTING ACCURATELY YESTERDAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU TO CHANNEL 10 FOR PUBLICIZING COUNCILMAN

CARLSON'S RESPONSE TO THE MAYOR'S PRESS CONFERENCE

WHERE SHE PULLED OUT THE TERM "FAKE NEWS."

CITY COUNCIL IS OUR LEGISLATIVE BODY.

THEY HAVE EIGHT EMPLOYEES INCLUDING MR. SHELBY AND

EIGHT LEGISLATIVE AIDES.

THEY HAVE NO PUBLICIST.

THE CHARTER SAID YOU SHOULD HAVE A BUDGET ANALYST ON

STAFF, YET YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE.

THEY ARE IGNORED BY THE CITY'S PUBLIC AFFAIRS

DEPARTMENT UNLESS SOMEONE ACCIDENTALLY GETS IN A

PICTURE WITH THE MAYOR.

WHO DO ALL THESE PEOPLE WORK FOR?

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

09:44:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

09:45:08 >> HI, MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.

IMPOSSIBLE TO COUNT ALL THE TIMES I WENT BEFORE THIS

CITY COUNCIL AND THE PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL.

ALL THE HOURS SPENT WATCHING FROM HOME.

THE BEST CITY COUNCILMEMBERS ARE THE ONES NOT BEHOLDEN

TO ANYONE OR AFRAID OF ANYONE.

THE ONES WHO HAVE A STRONG MORAL COMPASS AND DO WHAT IS

RIGHT EVEN IT IS NOT POLITICALLY BENEFICIAL.

THE BEST ONES HAVE INQUIRING MINDS AND HAVE QUESTIONS

OF THE FOR THE CITIZENS.

THEY DO THEIR HOMEWORK AND LISTEN.

JOHN DINGFELDER WAS THAT KIND OF COUNCILMAN.

MANY MEMBERS OF THIS CITY COUNCIL.

THAT IS WHY THIS CITY COUNCIL IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN

THE LAST CITY COUNCIL.

I AM GLAD YOU HAD THE COURAGE TO ELECT LYNN HURTAK.

I AM CONFIDENT SHE WILL BE INDEPENDENT, COURAGEOUS

AND ALWAYS LISTEN TO HER CONSTITUENTS AND DO WHAT SHE

SINCERELY BELIEVES IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

MANY RESIDENTS HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME OF ALL THE

CURRENT TURMOIL IN THEIR GOVERNMENT.

NEEDLESS TO SAY THEY ARE NOT HAPPY.

THEY WANT EVERYONE TO STOP THE NONSENSE AND GOVERN

COLLABORATIVELY AND LISTEN TO THE REGULAR PEOPLE, NOT

JUST THE DEEP POCKETS.

I AM GOING TO READ TO YOU SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT

CITIZENS HAVE SENT TO ME.

CA, TOM, WHY DON'T YOU SAY THAT YOU SPEAK FOR ALL

OF US NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATES AND SUPPORT CITY COUNCIL.

ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO RESIST SKETCHY DEALS AND WE WANT

CITY DOWN CONTINUE TO QUESTION WHEN PEOPLE AREN'T ABOVE

BOARD AND TRANSPARENT WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.

TAMPA RESIDENTS ARE USED TO HAVING HONEST GOVERNMENT

AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE HONEST AND ABOVE

REPROACH.

THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF THE

CITY I NEVER SEEN IT HAPPEN BEFORE.

WE NEED TO PRAY FOR BILL AND GUDES, TOO SO THEY DON'T
,
RESIGN.

THAT MAY BE PART OF THEIR STRATEGY TO WEAR THEM DOWN.

KIND OF LIKE THE SLAP LAWSUITS BUT WITH EMOTIONAL

PRESSURE.

THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT WHAT THEY SIGNED UP FOR.

BOY, BILL C. WAS VERY ANGRY IN THIS INTERVIEW.

SICK OF THE LIES.

HE REACHED HIS LIMIT.

SO GLAD HE SPOKE OUT AGAINST THIS.

THEY JUST NEED TO DO THEIR JOBS, AND LET COUNCIL DO

THEIRS.

CHECKS AND BALANCES, PEOPLE, THAT IS WHAT GOVERNMENT IS

SUPPOSED TO BE ALL ABOUT.

BUT THEY DON'T ALL WANT CHECKS AND BALANCE.

THEY WANT IT ALL.

MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY.

THE RULES APPLY TO EVERYONE ELSE BUT NOT TO THEM.

ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU WANT TO SCREAM.

I JUST WANT ALL THIS DIRT TO COME OUT SO THAT

DINGFELDER, CARLSON AND GUDES CAN BE VINDICATED.

POOR BILL, I DON'T WANT HIM GETTING SICK OVER IT.

HE LOOKS VERY EXHAUSTED.

[LAUGHTER]

IT MUST BE VERY DRAINING AND TERRIFYING KNOWING THAT

THEY ARE WATCHING YOUR EVERY MOVE AND ARE OUT TO GET

YOU.

TO SMEAR YOUR GOOD NAME, RUIN YOUR GOOD REPUTATION AND

RUIN YOUR POLITICAL CAREER AND RUIN YOU FINANCIALLY.

THAT IS A TERRIBLE WAY TO HAVE TO LIVE AND DO THE

PUBLIC'S BUSINESS, AND ALL SO UNNECESSARY.

IT'S GOT TO WEAR A PERSON DOWN, WHICH IS WHY I THINK

HE EXPLODED TODAY, NOT TO MENTION THE HIGH HYPOCRISY --

THE HIGH HYPOCRISY THAT REALLY IS BEYOND THE PALE,

THANK YOU.

09:48:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

09:48:20 >> GOOD MORNING, LORAINE PARRINO, A THIRD GENERATION

TAMPA HISPANIC NATIVE.

I HAVE BEEN WATCHING WHAT IS COMING FROM JANE CASTOR'S

OFFICE AND I AM APPALLED.

NEVER IN MY LIFE HAVE I SEEN TAMPA GOVERNMENT IN SUCH

TURMOIL SINCE SHE BECAME MAYOR.

THIS IS WHAT I OBSERVED SO FAR.

A CITY COUNCILMAN SERVED THE PUBLIC HONORABLY CARRYING

OUT THE WISHES WAS ACCUSED OF A LEGALITY AND THEN HAD A

SCINTILLA SCANDAL ATTACHED TO HIS NAME AND GINA GRIMES

WAS PERFECTLY HAPPY TO COLLECT HER CITY SALARY REFUSING

TO DEFEND HIM AND SO WE TAMPA RESIDENTS LOSE AN

IMPORTANT VOICE ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.

WE LEARNED THAT THE CITY HAS COMMISSIONED A 60-PAGE

REPORT AND PAID TWO LAW FIRMS $100,000 OF MY TAXPAYER

MONEY TO ACCUSE ANOTHER CITY COUNCILMAN, WHO IS ALSO

REPRESENTING HIS CONSTITUENTS, OF CREATING A HOSTILE

WORKPLACE BECAUSE HE HAS A POTTY MOUTH.

A POTTY MOUTH DOES NOT DISQUALIFY COUNCILMAN GUDES FROM

SERVING.

WE LEARN THAT THE REPORT IS 300 PAGES AND THE CITY ONLY

RELEASED 60 PAGES TO THE PUBLIC.

WHAT?

LAST WEEK, WE LEARNED THAT THE SAME ATTORNEY THAT SUED

COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS REPRESENTING COUNCILMAN GUDES'

ACCUSER.

WHO IS PAYING HIS LEGAL FEES BECAUSE HE DOESN'T COME

CHEAP.

AND THAT THE CITY IS NOT USING MY TAXPAYER MONEY TO

REMOVE ANOTHER CITY COUNCILMAN FROM OFFICE BEFORE NOW

NEVER HAD A SIN TRAIL OF SCANDAL YOU ATTACHED.

HIS ACCUSER WROTE TO THE CITY TELLING THEM TO PLEASE

STOP.

THE HARASSMENT CASE AGAINST COUNCILMAN GUDES.

DID THEY RESPECT HER WISHES?

NO, WHY?

BECAUSE WHAT THE ACCUSER WANTS IS NOT THE POINT.

THE POINT WHAT JANE CASTOR WANTS TO PRESSURE COUNCILMAN

GUDES TO RESIGN AND FAILING THAT, THE CITY HAS THIS

VERY WEAK CASE TO THE GOVERNOR TO SEE IF HE CAN REMOVE

THE THORN IN CASTOR'S SIDE.

DO NOT LET THE GOVERNMENT REMOVE YOU FROM YOUR ELECTED

OFFICE COUNCILMAN GUDES.

YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING THAT WILL DISQUALIFY YOU FROM

OFFICE.

JANE CASTOR HAD TO HAVE HER BFF MARY O'CONNOR AS CHIEF

OF POLICE AND PLACED IN THE CHIEF'S POSITION EVEN

BEFORE SHE WAS CONFIRMED AND RETIRED SIX YEARS BEFORE

AND LET HER POLICE CERTIFICATION LAPSE.

EVEN THOUGH JANE CASTOR HAD ZERO HISPANICS PASSED OVER

REUBEN DELGADO AND SUBJECTED THE PUBLIC FOR THE DOG AND

PONY SHOW WHERE EVERY POLICEMAN AND FIRE FIGHTER.

WHO DIDN'T COME TO ENDORSE, NOT ONE POLICE CHIEF, STATE

ATTORNEY.

I HAVE NOT MENTION THE ROME, HANNA STREET AND PURE.

I CAN'T IMAGINE A WHO HOSTILE CITY COUNCIL THAN WHAT

JANE CASTOR.

I LIKEN IT WITH JURASSIC PARK, SAFETY SHIELDS AROUND

PREDATORS LOOKING TO DESTROY YOU IN ANY WAY.

NOT THE WAY GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

BEFORE SHE BECAME MAYOR.

WE TAMPA RESIDENTS ARE FED UP.

JANE CASTOR ACCUSED CITY COUNCILMEMBERS THE EVERYTHING

THAT SHE AND HER ATTORNEYS, HOSTILE WORKPLACE

ENVIRONMENT, VIOLATING SUNSHINE LAWS.

THE PERSON WHO NEEDS TO RESIGN IS JANE CASTOR.

SHE IS NOT COMPETENT OR WORTHY TO RUN A BIG CITY LIKE.

09:51:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER.

09:51:44 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:51:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOOD MORNING.

09:51:51 >> MY NAME IS KEELA MCCASKILL, LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF.

CONGRATULATIONS COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR CREATE

THIS FOCUS ON TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

YOU KNOW BASED ON THE RECENT CHAIN OF EVENTS, YOU KNOW,

COMING FROM THIS CITY COUNCIL AND THIS ADMINISTRATION,

I BELIEVE THAT WE FAILED -- FROM THE COMMUNITY'S

PERSPECTIVE, WE FAILED TERRIBLY AT TRANSPARENCY AND

ACCOUNTABILITY.

IN FACT I RECOMMEND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT WE

FAILED, I BELIEVE THE CITY COUNCIL, SOME OF THE MEMBERS

WOULD AGREE THAT WE FAILED.

I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT HOW CITY COUNCIL OR SOMEBODY

ON THE LEGAL STAFF, SOMEBODY CAN ASSIST US.

MAYBE INVITE THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IN TAMPA AND

OPEN IT UP SO THEY CAN GIVE US A REPORT CARD OF HOW WE

SCORE AS IT RELATES TO TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

BECAUSE IF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WAS

IMPORTANT, HAVE REMOVE THE GAG ORDER FROM COUNCILMAN

DINGFELDER TO HEAR FROM HIM AND THE ADMINISTRATION.

IF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY VERY IMPORTANT, WHY

DID THE PRESS GET THE INFORMATION OF CASTOR'S STATEMENT

BEFORE COUNCILMAN GUDES OR HIS ATTORNEY.

IF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IS IMPORTANT TO THE

ADMINISTRATION, WHY HAVEN'T ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT

THE CLOSED INVESTIGATION REGARDING COUNCILMAN GUDES AS

WELL AS THE DOCUMENTS IN THE INVESTIGATION BEEN

RELEASED.

IF TRANSPARENCY WAS IMPORTANT, WHY DID THEY ONLY

RELEASE 60 PAGES AS OPPOSED TO THE 349 WHICH HAS A LOT

OF INFORMATION THERE.

IF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WAS IMPORTANT, HOW

CAN YOU SAY A NEW INVESTIGATION WAS OPEN AFTER THE NEW

INVESTIGATION CAME UP, BUT THE ADMINISTRATION STILL

HAVE NOT RELEASED ALL THE INFORMATION AS IT RELATES TO

THE INVESTIGATION.

IN DO THE DOCUMENTS FROM OVER 300 PAGES RELEASED

CLEARLY HOW TO NOT TO SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH

COUNCILMAN GUDES BUT IT WAS SHARED WITH OTHER

COUNCILMEMBERS IF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IS

IMPORTANT TO THE ADMINISTRATION.

IF THAT WAS IMPORTANT, THE CLAIMANT'S HEALTH AND WELL

BEING WOULD HAVE BEEN PRESERVED WELL.

IN HER REQUEST TO HAVE A NEW POSITION, SHE SAT IN THAT

SEAT -- IF IT WAS HOSTILE.

IF IT WAS SO HOSTILE.

SHE SAT THERE OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AND WASN'T MOVED

UNTIL IT WAS REQUESTED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR HER

HEALTH AND WELL BEING.

SHE WAS OVERWHELMED IN THE POSITION AND HE WANTED HER

TO GET ANOTHER POSITION.

IF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WAS SO IMPORTANT,

WHY ALL THESE QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.

I REVIEWED THE 349 PAGES.

I REVIEWED THE 60 PAGES AND I BELIEVE IT IS

INTENTIONAL.

TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IS NOT THE PRIMARY

CONCERN OF THE ADMINISTRATION.

NOW THIS CAN HAPPEN.

BUT I WOULD LIKE THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO COME IN

AND GIVE A REPORT CARD, HOW ARE WE SCORING WHEN IT

RELATES TO TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

THESE COUNCILMEN HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY.

WE VOTED THEM IN AND THEY CAN'T DO THEIR JOB BECAUSE

THEY HAVE TO FIGHT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.

THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE IN THIS CITY.

THANK YOU.

09:54:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[APPLAUSE]

09:54:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER.

09:54:59 >> HELLO, GOOD MORNING.

I AM SALLYESE LEE OF THE VOLUNTEER MISSIONARY SOCIETY

PENNY FUND.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY ALL PRAISES BE TO GOD.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FOR YOUR HELP IN GETTING

MY AIR CONDITIONER FIXED.

90 DAYS WITHOUT AIR.

AND SO I STILL HAD TO CALL YOUR OFFICE BACK AND YOUR

SECRETARY, SHE HELPED ME OUT.

I HAD TO CALL 45 PEOPLE TO CONTACT TO GET THIS JOB

DONE.

AFTER THREE MONTHS.

AND FINALLY, YOU KNOW, I CALL AROUND AND TALK TO

PEOPLE -- I MET SOME PRETTY NICE PEOPLE ON THE PHONE.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE

INSPECTORS IN TAMPA THAT INSPECT APARTMENT HOUSES.

AND I WOULD -- I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE MUST

NOT FORGET HOMELESSNESS.

WE MUST DECIDE TO TAKE A STAND ON -- THIS IS MY

BIRTHDAY MONTH.

AND I WILL BE GLAD IF YOU ALL WILL DECIDE AND GOD WILL

LET ME SLEEP.

SLEEP IS A LUXURY TO ME BECAUSE WHEN GOD WANTS ME

SOMEWHERE, WAKES ME UP 3:00.

A LITTLE PINCH AND YOU ARE OUT AND SEE THE PUBLIC.

ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AND WITH SIN AND MALICE AND WE

SHOULD MOVE ON FORWARD, AND WE SHOULD DECIDE ON WHEN

YOU ARE GOING TO SIGN THE RENT FREEZE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

AND KEEP THE GOOD WORK UP.

AND DON'T FORGET OF HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING.

PLEASE.

THAT IS WHY YOU ARE THERE.

YOU GOT TO STAND UP FOR US WOMEN WHO ARE LIVING IN THE

STREETS, SLEEPING UNDER A TREE, UNDER THE BORDER,

EVERYWHERE.

WE NEED HOUSING SO OUR KIDS CAN THINK AND FEEL THEY ARE

HUMAN.

THAT IS WHAT I AM IN IT FOR THE KIDS THAT CAN'T HELP

THEMSELVES.

Y'ALL MAKE A DECISION OF RENTING AND HOUSE -- BECAUSE

IT AFFECTS ME TOO.

I AM A SENIOR.

AND I CAN'T AFFORD MY RENT TO GO UP.

SO I PRAY FOR YOU ALL.

AND PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING AND COME UP WITH THE

TRANSPARENCY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:57:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

09:57:25 >> JAE PASSMORE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, CITY COUNCIL.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO SAY AND I HAVE

TO MAKE IT CONDENSED.

I HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR THE RACIST MAYOR TO RESIGN

SINCE 2020.

BUT THAT IS NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.

I REALLY THINK -- FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS,

COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, BUT I THINK THE PROCESS TO PICK AN

APPLICANT AS WE TALK OF TRANSPARENCY WAS NOT

TRANSPARENT.

THE MORNING OF CITY COUNCIL WAS DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT

IF THEY WOULD ASK APPLICANTS QUESTIONS.

THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING PLANNED OUT IN ADVANCE.

NUMEROUS PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY SPOKE AND SAID WE

WANTED A PROGRESSIVE BLACK WOMAN.

WHERE WAS -- WHEN WE TALK OF THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE

WHO ARE COMING TO SPEAK.

WHERE WAS THE CONSIDERATION FOR ANY OF THAT.

AND THAT IS NOT TO SAY ANYTHING OF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,

BUT WHEN YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE WHEN

CONSIDERING YOUR DECISIONS, YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN THE

MAYOR WHEN YOU ARE DOING THAT.

WHEN WE TALK OF TRANSPARENCY, I FEEL LIKE IF YOU ARE

NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC, THEN THE PUBLIC

NEEDS TO HOLD YOU ON ACCOUNTABLE.

WHEN WE TALK OF INVESTIGATIONS, BILL CARLSON'S FORMER

AIDE SAID HE WAS A VICTIM OF EMOTIONAL AND VERBAL

ABUSE.

WHERE IS THE INVESTIGATION TO BE OPENED UP ON THAT.

I THINK IT IS TIME TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE AS

MUCH AS OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS CAN GO ON THE NEWS AND

CALL FOR OTHERS TO RESIGN.

I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND ASK

YOURSELVES, ARE YOU WHAT IS BEST FOR THE PUBLIC IF YOU

CAN NOT LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC AND LISTEN TO THE NEEDS OF

THE PEOPLE.

I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.

I KNOW A LOT OF YOU GOT TRIGGERED WHEN I SAID Y'ALL

WERE WHITE MEN.

BUT I KNOW I AM NOT HERE TO GIVE YOU A CLASS ON

ETHNICITY, RACE AND NATIONALITY, BUT I WANT TO STATE

FOR THE RECORD, YOU CAN BE WHITE AND HISPANIC IN CASE

YOU WERE CONFUSED.

BUT MY OVERALL THING IS, NOT ONLY DID YOU COMPLETELY

DISREGARD THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, YOU DIDN'T EVEN

REALLY ACTUALLY SEEM TO CARE ABOUT THE APPLICANTS WHO

CAME UP AND SPOKE.

I DID SEE COUNCILMEMBER VIERA -- I FORGET THE

GENTLEMAN'S NAME, BUT HE DID SAY, HEY, MY AIDE WILL GET

IN CONTACT WITH YOU AND SO FORTH.

BUT OVERALL, SPEAKING, IT LOOKS TO THE PUBLIC THAT YOU

ALREADY HAD YOUR MINDS MADE WHO Y'ALL WANTED AND IT

LOOKED LIKE IT WAS THE WOMAN WHO WAS ENDORSED BY OUR

MAYOR.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND WE TALK OF CITY

COUNCIL BEING AT ODDS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, THESE

ACTIONS FURTHER ENVELOPE OUR CITY GOVERNMENT TURMOIL.

I HAVE BEEN TO CITIES THAT HAVE 50-PERSON CITY COUNCILS

AND 15-PERSON CITY COUNCILS.

THIS IS A SMALL COUNCIL IN COMPARISON, BUT IT LOOKS

LIKE Y'ALL JUST SHOW UP AND DO WHAT YOU WANT AND NOT

LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE OR EVEN CARE ABOUT THE WILL OF THE

PEOPLE.

AND I HOPE THAT MY WORDS INSPIRE EACH ONE OF YOU IF YOU

LIKE ME OR NOT TO REALLY REFLECT AND CHANGE.

THANK YOU.

10:00:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

10:00:41 >> GOOD MORNING, MENTESNOT.

IT IS A STUPID PROCESS AND STUPID CITY COUNCIL.

THE FACT OF THE MATTER TO CHOOSE SOMEONE -- NO

DISRESPECT TO THE PERSON CHOSEN.

TO CHOOSE SOMEONE, ALL YOU NEEDED TO DO SEE THE PERSON

WITH THE SECOND AMOUNT OF VOTES WHEN THEY RAN, WHEN THE

PEOPLE CHOSE SOMEONE, SEE IF THEY WANTED THE JOB.

THAT PERSON WAS RIGHT HERE, AND SHE DIDN'T GET THE JOB.

SO IT IS A STUPID PROCESS.

ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY A STUPID PROCESS.

THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

A STUPID MAYOR THAT GOT RIGHT OUT THERE SOMEWHERE AND

TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.

WHAT TRANSPARENCY?

AFTER THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO?

THEN THEY CLAIM TRANSPARENCY AFTER HER NEPHEW GOT SOME

JOB OVER SOME CITY CONTRACT.

WHERE WAS THE TRANSPARENCY IN THAT.

WHERE IS THE TRANSPARENCY A PROJECT -- A $100 MILLION

PROJECT THAT WAS NO PROCESS.

NO AFRICAN CONTRACTORS, NO MINORITY CONTRACTORS, $100

MILLION TO START.

AND CALLING IT EAST TAMPA AND IT IS NOT EVEN EAST

TAMPA.

WHERE IS THE TRANSPARENCY IN THAT?

TRANSPARENCY IS A LITTLE TRICK.

THEY PUT DIRT OUT ON YOU AND THEY COME OUT.

THEY HIDE THEIR HAND.

THEY PUT DIRT ON THE OTHER PERSON LIKE THEY DID

DINGFELDER.

AND COME OUT AND CLAIM TRANSPARENCY.

DINGFELDER WAS SOLID FOR RESIGNING BECAUSE HE IS A GOOD

PERSON.

HE WAS SOLID FOR RESIGNING.

IF WE WANT ORLANDO GUDES TO HANG IN THERE AND OTHER

PEOPLE TO HANG IN THERE.

THIS -- THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS NO RESPECT FROM THAT

MAYOR'S OFFICE AND HAS BEEN THAT WAY FROM THE LAST

MAYOR'S OFFICE.

IF THEY ARE WRESTLING THE MAYOR FOR POWER, THIS IS WHAT

IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

THEY HAVE A SITUATION GOING RIGHT NOW, JESUIT HIGH

SCHOOL.

THEY TALK OF TRANSPARENCY WHERE A AFRICAN KID LANDS IN

THE HOSPITAL AND THE TRANSPARENCY IS, THEY ARE DOING

THE SAME THING THEY DID WITH ORLANDO GUDES.

TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS RELEASED PART OF THE VIDEO,

NOT THE WHOLE VIDEO AND SAID, OH, THE AFRICAN KID

STARTED THE -- THE CONFUSION.

NO RELEASE THE WHOLE VIDEO SO WE CAN SEE WHAT HAPPENED.

IT IS NO TRANSPARENCY GOING ON.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR

OVER THREE DECADES COMING RIGHT BEFORE THE CITY

COUNCIL.

AND WHEN YOU TRY TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.

IT IS SO BAD.

YOU TRY TO TALK OF TRANSPARENCY.

THAT MAN RIGHT THERE.

THEY DON'T LIKE TO CALL YOU NAMES.

THAT MAN WATCHED ME GET JAILTIME FOR SITTING RIGHT

THERE AND STANDING UP AND SPEAK AT THIS PODIUM AND THEY

DIDN'T LIKE WHAT I WAS SAYING.

WHERE IS TRANSPARENCY IN THAT.

I DON'T LIKE TO PERSONALIZE ANYTHING.

MILLIONS -- TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN CODE

ENFORCEMENT IN THIS CITY AGAINST ME, TONY DANIEL, FOR

WHAT?

WHAT DO I DO?

WHERE IS THE TRANSPARENCY IN THAT?

NO, THERE IS NO TRANSPARENCY.

WHAT THIS CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO DO -- I KNOW IT IS A

TOUGH DAY TO BE FIRST DAY ON THE JOB AND GET IT THIS

WAY.

WHAT THIS CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO DO IS STAND UP AND HAVE

A BALANCE IN GOVERNMENT.

EVERYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT COMMUNISM AND PUTIN, BUT

WE GOT OUR PUTIN RIGHT HERE.

OUR PUTIN IS CALLED CASTOR.

10:04:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:04:07 >> AND SHE IS RIGHT HERE.

10:04:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

10:04:23 >> ONCE AGAIN, MAN, JOE ROBINSON, WEST TAMPA.

Y'ALL GOT ME DOWN HERE MISSING THE MASTER'S, MAN.

I WANT TO GET TO TIGER WOODS.

THE REASONS I CAME DOWN IS I THOUGHT THE COMMUNITY

BENEFIT AGREEMENT WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA TODAY, BUT I

HEAR THAT THE AGENDA WAS FULL.

AND IT HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE 21ST.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I WILL BE BACK ON THE 21ST.

WITH YOU I WAS DOWN HERE TO TALK OF THE CBA; HOWEVER,

I AM DOWN HERE LOOKING AT -- CONGRATULATIONS, FIRST OF

ALL, MISS LYNN HURTAK.

YOU KNOW I HAVE A SLIGHT CONVERSATION WITH YOU.

BUT GETTING BAPTIZED BY FIRE, NOT WATER THIS MORNING.

WELCOME TO THE CLUB.

OKAY.

WELCOME TO THE CLUB.

A BIG CLUB.

IT IS CALLED TRANSPARENCY VERSUS THE INVISIBLE MAN,

SEE.

SO, YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS ARE TRANSPARENT.

SOME THINGS ARE INVISIBLE IN THIS AREA.

AND I SAY THIS.

SWITCHING SUBJECT.

I MET MISS TRAVIS WHO TOOK OVER CAROLE POST'S JOB.

SHE IS GOING TO DO GOOD.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT I HAVE KNOWN HER SINCE 2008 THINK

THAT MET HER BACK THEN.

ROB ROSNER HAS CHAIRED THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT

SINCE I AM THE WEST TAMPA CRA COMMITTEE PERSON WHO IS

FOLLOWING THE ROME YARD COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT FOR

WEST.

I HAVE THE DOCUMENT.

I HAVE READ IT.

WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO RUN IT BY OUR COMMITTEE BEFORE

YOU BRING IT BACK ON THE 21ST.

WE WILL HAVE AN EMERGENCY MEETING OR SOMETHING.

IT HAS COME OUT.

IT'S FINAL.

AND ALSO ON HANNA, THEY ARE HAVING TODAY AT 3:00

ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO TRY TO GET SOME WORK TO GET OVER

THERE.

3:00 AT REAGAN PARK TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON.

BECAUSE I HEAR A LOT GOING ON, BUT A LOT OF IT IS GOING

TO KEEP MOVING ON.

THINGS WILL KEEP MOVING.

I DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS.

AND THERE ARE A LOT OF DISTRACTIONS GOING ON BOTH SIDES

OF THE GRASS, THE FENCE, UP, DOWN, AROUND AND IN THE

TOWN.

THIS LADY MENTIONED THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT IS AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION; HOWEVER, NOTHING

TO REACH THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT LEVEL YET.

BUT IT IS GETTING REAL CLOSE.

I'M HERE TO SAY THAT -- Y'ALL CAUSED ME TO MISS TIGER

WOODS.

OKAY.

COMING BACK.

FROM MY HURT LEG.

BUT I AM GOING TO SAY WITH THE LAST 30 SECONDS, MR.

CARLSON, IF YOU NEED A BODYGUARD, LET ME KNOW.

YOU MIGHT NEED ONE ONE DAY AT THE RATE WE ARE GOING

AROUND HERE.

I AM GOING TO TELL YOU GUYS, KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE

DOING.

KEEP VETTING IT OUT.

Y'ALL KEEP COMMUNICATING BUT LET'S KEEP IT CIVILIZED.

LET'S KEEP IT LEGAL.

AND LET'S DO THE JOB YOU WERE ELECTED AND APPOINTED TO

DO FOR THE PUBLIC.

SO Y'ALL DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

JUST REMEMBER, YOU WORK FOR THE PUBLIC.

THAT'S -- I AM GOING TO GO WATCH TIGER WOODS NOW.

Y'ALL HAVE A NICE DAY.

10:07:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

WE NOW WILL GO -- NO ONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK

FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WILL GO TO THE REGISTERED

SPEAKERS ONLINE.

NUMBER ONE IS MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH.

10:07:42 >>CLERK:
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.

MICHAEL, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF

AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:07:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. RANDOLPH.

10:07:53 >> HELLO, YES, MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.

I AM WITH THE WEST TAMPA CAC.

TO THE LATEST PERSON WHO IS ON BOARD, CONGRATULATIONS,

BUT YOU ARE COMING AT A TIME WHEN THE COUNTRY IS GOING

BACKWARDS.

EVERYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG HAS GONE WRONG

IN THIS COUNTRY.

AND A FEMALE TO COME AND STRAIGHTEN IT OUT.

SO THERE IS A CRISIS IN WEST TAMPA AND RESIDENCE OF

BEING DISPLACED BY GENTRIFICATION.

SUPPORTED BY A RECENT PLAN BY THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

COMMISSION THAT SAYS WEST TAMPA AND EAST TAMPA

SPECIFICALLY THE BLACK COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S WHY WE

HAVE A CRISIS IN WEST TAMPA.

I HOPE THE WEST TAMPA CAC, WE TALK OF WHAT A CAC IS.

THEY SAYS IT A PRIVATE NONPROFIT CORPORATION BY A BOARD

OF DIRECTORS CONSISTING OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE

COMMUNITY, AND CIVIC LEADERS WHICH HAVE A PRINCIPLE

PURPOSE OF PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY

DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES.

THEY THINK THAT IT IS WHAT IS CALLED A COMMUNITY

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT TO WHICH CDCS CAN GO TO.

AND LET'S TALK OF THE WEST TAMPA CDC.

WE ARE A COMMUNITY-BASED NODE.

IT IS RAN BY DR. MARTHA FISHER IS THE CHAIRPERSON AND

THE AND JOE ROBINSON IS THE VICE-CHAIRPERSON.

WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE COMMUNITY COMPREHENSIVE INITIATIVE

FOR ECONOMIC, FISCAL AND SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALL

TOGETHER.

SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS ALL ABOUT PEOPLE.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND PHYSICAL

ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, SPECIFICALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THE MOST RECENT PROJECT IS THE ROME PROJECT.

THE PROJECT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE NARRATIVE WHEN IT

COMES TO RESIDENTS IN WEST.

THE WEST TAMPA ROLE IS TO MOVE FROM THE PERSONNEL AT

THE JOB AND E-COMMERCE OF JOBS PROGRAMS.

WE PRAY THAT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WILL CREATE 120 NEW

PART-TIME AND FULL-TIME RESIDENTS -- I MEAN FULL-TIME

BUSINESSES THAT WILL BE CONTROLLED BY THE RESIDENTS.

OUT OF THAT, 150 NEW JOBS CREATED BECAUSE OF THESE

BUSINESSES.

$9 MILLION TO $10 MILLION ECONOMIC IMPACT.

SO WHAT -- WHAT IS THE GOAL?

REDUCE -- INCREASE SAFETY, INCREASE JOB CREATION AND

INCREASE GENERATIONAL WEALTH IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE POPULATION AND FOCUS ON YOUTH, THOSE WITH CRIMINAL

RECORDS AND FOR FIXED INCOME FOR SENIOR CITIZENS.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY.

THIS IS A HARD TIME IN OUR COUNTRY.

WE HAVE TO DO BETTER AND AGAIN TO THE NEWEST MEMBER OF

THE CITY COUNCIL, WE KNOW FEMALES ALWAYS STRAIGHTEN IT

OUT.

STRAIGHTEN IT OUT.

THANK YOU.

10:11:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

NEXT ON THE LIST IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.

SHE WAS HERE AND CARROLL BENNETT AND LOUIE GUADIARE.

10:11:26 >> IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:11:38 >> MR. GALDIERI, IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE, PLEASE GO

AHEAD.

10:11:40 >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS UNMUTED.

CAN YOU HEAR ME.

10:11:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, THANK YOU.

10:11:46 >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS CITY

COUNCIL.

I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE TOWERS OF CHANNELSIDE

HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

FIRST OF ALL, WANTS TO THANK YOU FOR BEING GREAT

PARTNER AND WE HAVE BEEN A VERY ACTIVE PARTNER WITH

CITY STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.

WE APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION TODAY ON ITEM 3 RECOGNIZE

AS THAT PARTNERSHIP AND THE FACT THAT THE CHANNEL

DISTRICT HAS EVOLVED TO BECOME MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL.

WE ALSO APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN VIERA MEETING WITH OUR

RESIDENTS AND HOMEOWNERS TO HEAR FIRSTHAND THE

CHALLENGES WE EXPERIENCE IN THE COMMUNITY, THE PROPOSED

ENDMENT I AM NOT GOING TO BELABOR THE DISCUSSION

BECAUSE I HEAR ALL OF THE CHALLENGES AND DISCUSS THIS

FOR TWO YEARS.

THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT PROHIBITS EXCESSIVE NOISE AS

WELL AS VIBRATION WITHIN A FULLY ENCLOSED STRUCTURE.

TO PROHIBIT THE VAST EXPERIENCE OF THE TOWERS

RESIDENTS, THE VIBRATION FROM THE CURRENT

ESTABLISHMENT.

THESE PROVISIONS OF SECTIONS 12-154 DO NOT CURRENTLY

APPLY TO THE CHANNEL DISTRICT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT

GOVERNED BY SECTION 114-154.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DISCUSS

THAT TODAY.

AND BRINGING THE CHANNEL DISTRICT WILL REPRESENT GREAT

PROGRESS.

WE VOTE THAT YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF THAT ORDINANCE AND I

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.

10:13:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT WE HAVE JEAN STROHMEYER.

10:13:19 >>CLERK:
NEXT SPEAKER IS JEAN STROHMEYER, IF YOU ARE

ON THE LINE.

UNMUTE AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:13:25 >> DO YOU ALL HEAR ME?

10:13:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.

10:13:29 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL AND GOOD MORNING MISS

HURTAK FOR YOUR -- YOUR NEW POSITION.

JUST FOR SOMEBODY ELSE THAT SPOKE THAT SAID SHE WAS

ENDORSED BY THE MAYOR, THAT IS INCORRECT.

THAT IS THE WRONG ONE.

SHE IS NOT ENDORSED BY THE MAYOR, BUT WE DID FEEL SHE

HAD A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD BACKGROUNDS.

SO I FEEL IT WAS THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR THE JOB BECAUSE

YOUR JOB AS THE CITY COUNT IS TO PROTECT YOUR

NEIGHBORHOODS AND LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHO VOTED

YOU IN.

I DON'T THINK REPRESENTATIVES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN VOTED

IN, PEOPLE IN THE CITY THAT HAVE NOT BEEN VOTED IN

SHOULD BE RUNNING OUR CITY INCLUDING THE BLOOMBERG

FOUNDATION AND WHATNOT.

THAT WAS A BIG MISTAKE AND THE PEOPLE HOPEFULLY THAT WE

CAN REVERSE THAT SOMEHOW.

LOOK INTO THAT.

ANYWAY, I -- FOR THE RECORD, AGAIN, AND I AM GOING TO

LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT I DO PRAY FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU

EVERY SINGLE DAY 8 P.M. P.M. IF ANYONE WANTS TO JOIN IN

ON PRAYER, 8:00, SET YOUR ALARM TO PRAY FOR OUR CITY,

COUNTY, OUR STATE AS WELL AS OUR COUNTRY.

BECAUSE BOTH -- ALL ARE GOING DOWN IN HELL IN A HANDBAG

BASKET THE WAY I SEE IT UNLESS WE GET TO PRAYING.

TO THE AGENDA, NUMBER 1, IS THE SEXUAL ASSAULT

AWARENESS.

I WAS LOOKING INTO THAT.

THAT IS ALL WELL AND GOOD BUT CAME RIGHT AFTER THAT

MEETING TO LYNCH MR. -- MR. GUDES.

AND IT FELT LIKE -- IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE RECORD, IT

CAME WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF THAT, QUOTE, MEETING BY THE

CITY LEADERS.

JUST SO YOU KNOW.

THAT WAS ALSO -- YOU SEE WHO STARTED THAT.

SO I THINK -- LET'S SEE.

ON THE AGENDA.

YOU HAVE NUMBER 19 IS TALKING ABOUT CHANGE THE ORDER OF

CONTRACTS.

IF YOU CAN CHANGE THE ORDER OF CONTRACTS, YOU COULD

HAVE DONE THAT WITH BLOOMBERG AND THE HANNA PROJECT.

Y'ALL LOOK INTO THAT IF YOU CAN.

NUMBER 25, THERE ARE $2 MILLION BEING PROPOSED FOR

THINGS AND PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU -- YOU HANDLE OUR MONEY

AS IF IT WAS YOUR OWN.

NOT IF IT WAS AN UNLIMITED BANK ACCOUNT.

THAT IS WHAT WE ALL -- WE ALL LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS AND

I SUGGEST THAT YOU GUYS DO THE SAME IF YOU -- FULL LOOK

INTO WHAT IS COMING ON THE AGENDA.

AND LOOK AT IT SMARTLY.

IT IS THE SAME THING WITH GROWTH.

WE WANT OUR CITY TO GROW.

WE DON'T MIND DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH.

BUT WE WANT SMART GROWTH.

AND THAT GOES TO THE DEVELOPERS IN THE AUDIENCE THERE

TODAY.

AND, YOU KNOW, TALKING OF TRANSPARENCY.

I LISTENED TO A LOT OF THE STATEMENTS.

THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE

TRANSPARENT AS WELL.

WE NEED TO MAKE THAT FULL CIRCLE, THAT EVERYBODY KIND

OF KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON.

AND, AGAIN, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THERE ARE A LOT OF

THINGS GOING ON THERE THAT PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME AND

THAT I SEE THAT IS JUST -- DON'T LOOK GOOD.

WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT AND WE REALLY NEED TO -- TO

CHANGE THE CODE SO THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS A LITTLE

MORE POWER WHEN IT COMES TO STRUGGLES AGAINST THE

MAYOR.

10:16:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:16:33 >> YES.

OKAY.

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

10:16:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU TOO.

ALL RIGHT, THE TWO OTHER REGISTERED SPEAKERS I HAVE ARE

TYLER HUDSON AND JAMIE MAIER, BUT THEY ARE AVAILABLE IF

THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR FOUR AND FIVE.

I WILL WAIT THERE.

BUT THE GENTLEMAN IN THE SECOND ROW, I KNOW YOU WANTED

TO SPEAK.

WE APOLOGIZE.

WE.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

STATE YOUR NAME.

10:16:57 >> YES, MY NAME IS LARRY RINDUMECHT.

[INAUDIBLE]

-- I WANT TO CONGRATULATE AND WELCOME OUR NEW CONGRESS

-- COUNCILWOMAN, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH

YOU, SPECIFICALLY I AM ADDRESSING THE NOISE ORDINANCE

TODAY.

I LIVE IN TOWER ONE.

I LIVE IN THE O5 TIER, WHICH IS -- SPECIFICALLY UNIT

2205.

THE 04 AND 05 TIERS ARE DIRECTLY ABOVE THE PARK AND REC

GAMING BAR THAT IS CREATING THE NOISE THAT WE ARE

CURRENTLY TOLERATING.

I WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO MOVE IN TO TOWER ONE IN

SEPTEMBER OF 2007.

WHEN IT WAS SOLELY A HIGH-RISE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY

WITH NO RETAIL.

I WAS THERE WHEN ASIA WAS ESTABLISHED AS A NIGHT CLUB.

AND I WAS THERE WHEN THE GAMING BAR CAME INTO

EXISTENCE, PARK AND REC, IN DECEMBER OF 2019.

YOU MAY RECALL ON MARCH 17, I SPOKE TO THE COUNCIL.

WHAT DID I TALK ABOUT?

I TALKED ABOUT THE SPECIFIC TYPE OF NOISE THAT WAS

PENETRATING OUR BEDROOMS BETWEEN 10 P.M. AND 2 A.M.

YOU GRACIOUSLY LISTENED AND AGREED THAT A NOISE

ORDINANCE SEPARATING THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM YBOR

SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE COUNCIL.

TODAY I'M HERE TO THANK YOU FOR UNDERTAKING THIS NEW

NOISE ORDINANCE WHICH I STRONGLY SUPPORT, AS DO ALL OF

THE TOWER MEMBERS, RESIDENTS, IF YOU WILL, THAT I HAVE

SPOKEN WITH.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE CITY ADMINISTRATORS,

SPECIFICALLY NICOLE AND SUSAN, FOR THEIR EFFORTS TO

LISTEN TO THOSE OF US IN THE TOWERS AND TO PRODUCE A

FIRST READING DRAFT ORDINANCE AT THE COUNCIL'S

DIRECTION WHICH YOU ARE CONSIDERING TODAY AND HOPEFULLY

WILL PASS.

WE IN THE TOWERS NEED YOUR CONTINUED UNDERSTANDING AND

SUPPORT TO STOP OR SIGNIFICANTLY CURTAIL THIS

UNACCEPTABLE NOISE IN OUR BEDROOMS IN A RESIDENTIAL

COMMUNITY.

I LOOK FORWARD TO PARTICIPATING IN THE FUTURE WORKSHOPS

WHICH I UNDERSTAND ARE SCHEDULED.

AND WORK TOWARDS THE GOAL OF SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING AND

AT CERTAIN TIMES ELIMINATING THE NOISE.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

10:19:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT -- YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:19:47 >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY.

I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.

I NEVER RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENT BUT I WANT TO READ

FROM ITEM NUMBER 1 WHICH STATES TIFFANY DAVIS TO APPEAR

IN AND PROVIDE FIVE-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON SEXUAL

ASSAULT.

ORIGINAL MOTION BY VIERA, CITRO SEPTEMBER 2021, ABOUT

EIGHT MONTHS AGO, IF MY MATH IS CORRECT.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

10:20:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF

LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?

HEARING NONE.

WE WILL GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3.

YES, MA'AM.

GO AHEAD.

10:20:30 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL

DEPARTMENT.

ITEM NUMBER 3 IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE

THAT COUNCIL REQUESTED AT YOUR LAST MEETING THAT WOULD

REMOVE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM SECTION 14-153, THE

LIST OF DISTRICTS IN THAT SECTION WHERE NOISE IS

MEASURED ON A DECIBEL LEVEL STANDARD.

THE EFFECT OF THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE TO NOW PLACE THE

CHANNEL DISTRICT OR HAVE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT TO THE

PLAINLY AUDIBLE STANDARD FOR NOISE AND THE EFFECTIVE

DATE WILL BE IMMEDIATELY UPON ADOPTION.

IF COUNCIL WILL RECALL THE LAST NOISE ORDINANCE

ENDMENT THAT YOU RECENTLY REPEALED HAD A SIX-MONTH

DELAY, BUT THIS WILL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY UPON

ADOPTION AFTER SECOND READING.

I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

10:21:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMAN

MEMBERS?

COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:21:19 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THIS IS JUST FOR THE CHANNEL BUSINESS STRICT?

10:21:29 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
THAT'S CORRECT.

10:21:31 >>LUIS VIERA:
SAYS YBOR.

10:21:35 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
YBOR, CHANNEL THE THREE

DISTRICTS THAT IS MEASURED ON NOISE DECIBEL.

YBOR HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THE ARENA.

10:21:41 >>LUIS VIERA:
GREAT.

WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

POTENTIALLY LOST IN ALL THE CONFUSION AND SHUFFLE ON

THIS ISSUE WAS THE -- THE NEEDS OF -- OF OUR FRIENDS

AND IN CHANNELSIDE FOR IMMEDIATE RELIEF.

AND THING DOES IT AND WE CAN DEAL WITH ALL THE OTHER

VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ON THIS FROM BUSINESSES AND

DIFFERENT GROUPS, BUT, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID BEFORE,

SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN YBOR CITY AND TAMPA PALMS IS

CHANNELSIDE, RIGHT.

AND I DON'T THINK IT IS EITHER ONE.

SO I THINK THIS WILL YOU BEGIN TO ADDRESS THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE YOU.

10:22:18 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
ONE ITEM OF CLARIFICATION AND

MENTIONED IN PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WORKSHOPS HAVE BEEN

SCHEDULED.

I AM WORKING WITH STAFF TO CREATE A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT

PLAN HAS COUNCIL HAS REQUESTED AND WE WILL BE BRINGING

THAT BACK DOWN TO YOU AT YOUR NEXT MEETING ON APRIL 21.

THOSE ARE TO BE SCHEDULED BUT NOT YET BEEN SCHEDULED.

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ANYTHING, SIR.

10:22:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE OF

CHANNELSIDE BEING WHO THEY ARE AND STANDING UP FOR

THEIR RIGHTS.

10:22:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE?

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:22:46 >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS AND

THANKS TO THE FOLKS FROM CHANNEL DISTRICT FOR BEARING

WITH US THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THEY HAVE BEEN PUSHING

FOR THIS.

THE OTHER THING WE KNOW FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT

WE NEED THIS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.

STRENGTHEN -- NOT THIS EXACT THING BUT STRENGTHEN THE

NOISE ORDINANCES.

I AM AWARE OF A PRIVATE COMMUNITY GROUP COMING UP TO

STUDY THE -- THE NEWER METHODS OF REGULATING NOISE THAT

WILL BE FRIENDLY TO BUSINESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND HOPEFULLY SHIELD US FROM LITIGATION.

AS THAT PROCESS GOES FORWARD, I KNOW NICOLE HAS BEEN

HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.

AS THAT PROCESS GOES FORWARD, LOOK FORWARD -- MY

MESSAGE FOR ANYONE SUFFERING FROM NOISE ISSUES MULTIPLE

WAYS TO COME UP WITH WAYS TO ADDRESS IT.

10:23:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, READ ITEM NUMBER 3.

10:23:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I CERTAINLY WILL, MR. CHAIRMAN,

ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE NUMBER 2022-08.

ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATED TO THE

REGULATION OF NOISE, MAKING REVISIONS TO THE CITY OF

TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE III,

NOISE, AMENDING SECTION 14-153, UNREASONABLY EXCESSIVE

NOISE FROM PROPERTY PROHIBITED, YBOR CITY HISTORIC

DISTRICT, CHANNEL DISTRICT AND THE ARENA DISTRICT

REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN

CONFLICT THEREWITH.

10:24:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.

10:24:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY, DO YOU WANT A ROLL

CALL.

ALL IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

ANY OPPOSED.

10:24:27 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

SECOND HEARING AND ADOPTION MAY 5, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.

10:24:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 4.

I KNOW WE HAVE TYLER HUDSON ON STANDBY VIRTUALLY.

THIS IS COULD CORRECT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR AS IT READS

BY SUBSTITUTING EXHIBIT A.

10:24:49 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL

DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

YES, COUNCIL, THIS IS CORRECTION TO EXHIBIT A FROM

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-21 THAT COUNCIL PASSED ON

FEBRUARY 17.

THE TEXT AMENDMENT -- THIS WAS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THE AMENDMENT LANGUAGE WAS

ACTUALLY APPROPRIATELY PARAPHRASED IN THE ORDINANCE

ITSELF BUT INCORRECT EXHIBIT WAS ATTACHED TO THE

ORDINANCE AFTER ADOPTION.

IN WOULD SUBSTITUTE THE CORRECT LANGUAGE OF THE TEXT

ENDMENT.

10:25:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:25:24 >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST A COMMENT REAL FAST IN MY

INDIVIDUAL BRIEFING I ASKED THAT STAFF -- AND THEY

AGREED, TO INCLUDE THE ORIGINAL SIRE FILINGS WHEN WE DO

THE AMENDMENTS BECAUSE HARD TO GO BACK TO FIND OUT WHAT

IT IS ALL ABOUT IF ALL THAT IS THERE IS THE SUMMARY AND

THEN THE CHANGE.

IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO BE ABLE TO SEE ALL OF THE

BACK-UP FROM THE ORIGINAL ITEMS SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT

AGAIN.

I THINK THAT AND LET YOU KNOW I ASKED.

10:25:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. TYLER HUDSON ONLINE IF WE HAVE

ANY QUESTIONS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

NO?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCILMAN VIERA, READ ITEM NUMBER 4.

10:26:01 >>LUIS VIERA:
SURE.

MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING

CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER

2022-21 PASSED AND ORDAINED BY CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY

OF TAMPA ON FEBRUARY 17, 2022.

CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY SUBSTITUTING A NEW

EXHIBIT A FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED EXHIBIT A TO

ACCURATELY REFLECT THE TEXT AMENDMENT LANGUAGE SO IT IS

CONSISTENT WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT LANGUAGE IN

ORDINANCE 2022-21.

10:26:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

IN FAVOR.

OPPOSED.

10:26:42 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:26:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 5 YOU JAMIE MAIER ON

STANDBY WITH ANY QUESTIONS.

10:26:52 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL

DEPARTMENT.

AGAIN TO CORRECT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY SUBSTITUTING A

NEW EXHIBIT A WHICH COUNCIL PASSED ON FEBRUARY 17.

THIS IS JUST A CORRECTION TO THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION,

AGAIN, THE INCORRECT LEGAL DESCRIPTION WAS ATTACHED TO

THE ORDINANCE ADOPTED.

10:27:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?

ALL RIGHT.

REMEMBER WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON STANDBY.

COUNCILMAN CITRO DO YOU WANT TO READ ITEM NUMBER 5?

10:27:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MR. CHAIR.

FILE NUMBER AB2-21-28, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST

READING CONSIDERATION.

ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-38 PASS AND

ORDAINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON

FEBRUARY 17, 2022.

CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY SUBSTITUTING A NEW

EXHIBIT A FOR THE PREVIOUS APPROVED EXHIBIT A TO

REFLECT AN ACCURATE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE SUBJECT

PROPERTY CONSISTENT WITH THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE

SITE PLAN IN ORDINANCE OF 2022-38, APPROVING FOR

SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:28:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.

10:28:10 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

SECOND READING MAY 25, AT 9:30 A.M.

10:28:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

10:28:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 6

THROUGH 9.

10:28:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I MOVE 6-9.

10:28:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

10:28:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSED?

ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN GUDES, PARKS AND RECREATION

CULTURAL COMMITTEE.

YES, SIR.

10:28:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS

10-16.

10:28:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR.

OPPOSED.
NEXT UP, PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE.

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:28:51 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 17-26 PLEASE.

10:28:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND YOU.

10:28:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED?

ALL RIGHT.

FINANCE COMMITTEE IS ITEM NUMBER 27.

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:29:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM NUMBER 27 YOU IS APPOINTMENT

BY THE MAYOR OF THOMAS A. HAMMER TO THE BARRIO LATINO

COMMISSION FOR A THREE-YEAR.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

ANY OPPOSED.

BUILDING PRESERVATION, ITEM 28-39.

10:29:23 >>BILL CARLSON:
LIKE TO MOVER 28 TO 39.

10:29:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

10:29:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSED.

10:29:29 >>BILL CARLSON:
TO COMMENT ON NUMBER 32, THANK YOU FOR

THE ADMINISTRATION AN GRANTS DEPARTMENT TO CONTINUE TO

WORK ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

10:29:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VERY GOOD.

$2 MILLION YOU COUNCILMAN VIERA, ITEM 42-46.

10:29:45 >>BILL CARLSON:
I NEED TO PULL 43 AND 44 TO VOTE

SEPARATELY.

I NEED TO VOTE TO RECUSE MYSELF BECAUSE MY FIRM HAS A

CLIENT THAT IS RELATED TO EACH OF THESE ISSUES AND I

WILL BE FILING THE APPROPRIATE FORM.

VOTE ON THE OTHER ONES.

10:29:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, IF YOU MOVE

40-42 AND 45 AND 46.

10:30:06 >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE 40-42 AND 45 AND 46.

10:30:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

10:30:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS.

10:30:16 >>LUIS VIERA:
40-42 AND 45-46.

10:30:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR.

COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ARE RECUSING YOURSELF AND WILL

FILE THE FORMULATOR ON.

SO ITEMS 43 AND 44.

10:30:29 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, SO MOVED.

10:30:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

10:30:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:30:38 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING.

10:30:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY, WE HAVE NOT MADE MOTION TO

OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

10:30:47 >> SO MOVED.

10:30:47 >> SECOND.

10:30:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT IS 10:30.

WE CAN OPEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH AIL THE WAY THROUGH 62.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS MADE A MOTION TO OPEN

ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FROM 48-62.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE AT NUMBER 48.

10:31:33 >>ELAINE LUND:
GOOD MORNING, I AM ELAINE LUND,

PLANNING STAFF.

IF I HAVE PERMISSION TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.

ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE SCREEN?

10:31:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOT YET.

ALL RIGHT, WE CAN HEAR YOUR

SCREEN.

IF YOU WERE NOT SPEAKING, PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF.

IF YOU ARE NOT SPEAKING, PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF.

PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF.

10:32:13 >>ELAINE LUND:
ALL RIGHT, SO GOOD MORNING.

THIS IS THE PRESENTATION FOR THE MACFARLANE BUILDING

LOCAL LANDMARK.

PROPERTY 1902 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE.

THE OWNER MACFARLANE BUILDING LCC FOR A LOCAL LANDMARK

ON JUNE 15 AND APPLICATION IS REVIEWED BY THE HISTORIC

PRESENTATION COMMITTEE AND ELIGIBLE PROPERTIES MUST

MEET THE CRITERIA OF 27-257 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE

OF ORDINANCES.

LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION PRESERVES, PROMOTES AND

PROTECTS INDIVIDUAL LANDMARKS AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS

THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.

ON THE LEFT HERE, YOU SEE THE 1915 SANBORN MAP SHOWING

THE BRICK BLOCK.

IT IS OUTLINED IN RED THERE AT THE CORNER OF HOWARD

AVENUE AND CHESTNUT STREET.

ON THE RIGHT, THE PRESENT DAY AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE

SAME PROPERTY.

YOU WILL NOTE THAT TODAY, THE TWO RESIDENTIAL

STRUCTURES THAT WERE SHOWN ON THE 1915 MAP ARE NO

LONGER STANDING.

WEST TAMPA WAS ESTABLISHED BY HUGH MACFARLANE IN THE

LATE 1880S.

HUGH MACFARLANE MANAGED TO GATHER A LARGE GROUP OF

INVESTMENTS, INVESTORS WHO -- CIGAR MANUFACTURERS TO

THE CITY BY CONSTRUCTING CIGAR FACTORIES AND

RESIDENTIAL HOUSING FOR THE WORKERS.

THE PARTICULAR NORTH QUESTION HERE TODAY IN MCFARLANE

BUILDING IS A TWO-STORY BRICK VERNACULAR WITH

RENAISSANCE REVIVAL DETAILS THAT WERE PARTICULARLY

FOUND ON SEVERAL OF THE HISTORIC CIGAR FACTORIES THAT

WERE BUILT IN WEST.

THE WEST TAMPA HISTORIC DISTRICT WAS LISTED IN THE

NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES IN 1983 WITH A

PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE, MEANING THE DATE THAT THE

SIGNIFICANT HISTORIC STRUCTURES WERE FOUND THROUGHOUT

THE DISTRICT FROM 1893 TO 1933.

SO THE MACFARLANE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN THIS PERIOD OF

SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE WEST TAMPA HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THE CITY OF TAMPA REMAINED AN INDEPENDENT INCORPORATED

CITY UNTIL 1925 WHEN IT WAS ANNEX FLOOD THE CITY OF

TAMPA.

THE WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES LIST SOMETHING A

LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY

OF TAMPA IN 2006.

CURRENTLY IT INCLUDES ONE COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND TWO

RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES ON LASALLE STREET.

AS STATED, THE APPLICATION WAS MADE ON JUNE 15 OF 2021,

AND THE HPC REVIEWED THE PROPERTY AND RECOMMENDED FOR

LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION AS PART OF THE WEST

COMPANY MULTIPLE PROPERTIES LISTING ON SEPTEMBER 9,

2021.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND

FOUND IT CONSISTENT ON OCTOBER 26 OF THAT YEAR.

NOTICE WAS PROVIDED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO NEARBY

PROPERTY OWNERS AND REGISTERED ORGANIZATIONS.

THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION FOUND THAT THE

APPLICATION DID MEET THE CRITERIA OF SECTION 27-257 AND

THAT IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1905 AND SIGNIFICANT IN THE

AREA OF COMMERCE, COMMUNITY PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT AND

ARCHITECTURE.

AND IN SUMMARY, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT TAMPA CITY

COUNCIL APPROVE THE DESIGNATION OF THE MACFARLANE

BUILDING AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK AND PART OF THE

WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES LISTING BASED ON MEETING

THE CRY TIERRIA 27-257.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE OWNER WHO IS PRESENT TODAY

FOR HIS SUPPORT OF THIS DESIGNATION AND FOR HIS

INVESTMENT IN HISTORIC WEST TAMPA.

I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

10:36:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO, AS IT WAS MENTIONED AND I LOVE TAMPA HISTORY SO

MUCH.

THROW IN TIDBITS.

HUGH MCFARLANE IS KNOWN AS THE FATHER OF WEST TAMPA AND

THE NAMESAKE OF THIS BUILDING.

HE WAS CITY ATTORNEY BACK IN 1809, I BELIEVE.

HE WAS CREDITED WITH EXTENDING THE STREETCAR INTO WEST.

MACFARLANE PARK, WHICH HE DONATED TO THE PEOPLE, WAS

ORIGINALLY A GOLF COURSE AND NOW IT IS A BEAUTIFUL

PARK.

SO A LOT -- THERE IS A LOT OF HISTORY BEHIND THIS NAME

AND EVEN BOB HENREQUEZ, OUR PROPERTY APPRAISER, HIS

GREAT GRANDFATHER ONE -- ONE OF THE LAST -- OR MAYORS

OF.

YBOR CITY WAS ANNEXED BY THE CITY.

THE CITY OF WEST TAMPA UNTIL 1925 WAS ITS OWN

ESTABLISHED MUNICIPALITY WITH ITS OWN MAYOR AND

GOVERNMENT.

THAT IS YOUR HISTORY LESSON FOR TODAY.

I HOPE YOU ENJOYED IT.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?

I HAD TO DO IT.

10:37:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DID WE PASS THE HISTORY LESSON.

THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:37:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY.

DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE?

YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

10:37:27 >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS --

[INAUDIBLE]

-- THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION WORK IN THE

ANY IN THE PAST AND PLAN TO RESTORE THIS BUILDING AND

DEVELOPMENT IT TO THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS.

WITH US ARE STEPHANIE FARRELL OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION

CONSULTANTS AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

10:37:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT

AND THE CONSULTANT.

ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 48?

10:38:00 >> NO ONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON ITEM 48.

10:38:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

10:38:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES,

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

STEPHANIE FARRELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HISTORIC WORK.

I ALWAYS ADMIRED YOU.

ALL IN FAVOR.

THE PERSON WE LEFT OFF WITH YOU COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

COULD YOU READ NUMBER 48.

10:38:28 >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM 48 E 2022-8 CHAPTER 27.

ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING K, AN

ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE

WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES GROUP TO INCLUDE THE

MACFARLANE BUILDING LOCATED 1902 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE,

TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION

3, HEREOF AS A LOCAL LANDMARK PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF

ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY

AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:38:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

10:38:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.

AND THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR IS THE ORIGINAL ALESSI

BAKERY.

YOU KNOW, A LITTLE SOMETHING EXTRA.

10:39:07 >>CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

SECOND READING MAY 5, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.

10:39:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MY MOTHER WOULD WAIT ON LINE WITH

MY GRANDPARENTS TO GET BREAD FROM THE BAKERY.

10:39:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
CONGRATULATIONS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

10:39:32 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

IS MY SCREEN SHARED FOR ITEM 49?

10:39:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:39:38 >>ELAINE LUND:
THIS ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU --

10:39:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUST A MOMENT.

YES, MA'AM.

10:39:44 >>CLERK:
NUMBER 48, THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON

AND VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.

SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MAY 5, 2022

AT 9:30 A.M.

10:39:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

10:39:56 >>ELAINE LUND:
THANK YOU, SIR.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 49 IS 1208 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE.

ADDITIONALLY AN APPLICATION BEFORE YOU FOR

CONSIDERATION FOR LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION

AND IN ADDITION TO THE TAMPA MULTIPLE -- THE WEST TAMPA

MULTIPLE PROPERTIES LISTING.

THE OWNER, AIA TAMPA BAY, SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR

LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION JUNE 22, 2021.

PROPERTIES ARE CONSIDERED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION

COMMISSION BY A PUBLIC MEET TO SEE IF THEM MEET THE

DESIGNATION CRITERIA OF 257 OF THE CITY'S CODE.

LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION PRESERVES HISTORIC LANDMARKS

AND ALLOW FOR THE REVIEW OF ALTERATIONS TO THE

DESIGNATED PROPERTIES AND PROVIDES ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO

THE CITY AT LARGE.

THIS BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED CIRCA 1906 IN THE CITY OF

TAMPA.

ON YOUR LEFT IS 1914 SHOWING THE BRICK STRUCTURE ON

HOWARD AVENUE BETWEEN NASSAU AND ARCH STREETS.

PLEASE NOTE, THIS IS AN ENTIRE BRICK BLOCK MEANING THE

ENTIRE AREA BETWEEN ARCH STREET AND THE ALLEY THERE IS

BRICK, BUT ONLY THE SOUTH HALF OF THE -- THE BRICK

BLOCK IS CONSIDERED TO BE THE STRUCTURE THAT IS UNDER

YOUR REVIEW HERE TODAY.

THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS THE MODERN-DAY AERIAL

PHOTOGRAPH WITH THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED.

THE 1906 BUILDING AT 1208 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE WAS

CONSTRUCTED JUST ACROSS THE ALLEY FROM A PROMINENT

CIGAR FACTORY.

TRADITIONALLY, IT WAS THE SI DAVIS COMPANY HERE, AND NOW

IT IS KNOWN AS THE BALBIN BROTHERS CIGAR FACTORY.

CONSTRUCTED WITH A COMMERCIAL WITH A RESTAURANT IN IT.

AND THE RESTAURANT SERVED WORKERS AT THE CIGAR FACTORY.

HERE YOU SEE SOME IMAGES OF SOME OF THE HISTORIC

INTERIOR THE PRESSED TIN CEILING AND A COLD STORAGE

DOOR WHICH WAS SORT OF BEFORE REFRIGERATORS WERE WIDELY

IN USE.

SO THE WEST TAMPA HISTORIC DISTRICT, AGAIN, WAS LISTED

ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES WITH PERIOD

OF 1893 TO 1933.

THEREFORE, THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT DURING THE PERIOD OF

SIGNIFICANCE OF THE WEST TAMPA HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND IT IS PROPOSED TO YOU TODAY AS PART OF THE WEST

TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES LISTING AS DESIGNATED BY THE

CITY OF TAMPA.

THE APPLICATION DATE WAS JUNE 22, 2021.

AND THE HPC REVIEWED IT AND RECOMMENDED IT FOR LOCAL

LANDMARK DESIGNATION AS PART OF THIS MULTIPLE

PROPERTIES LISTING ON SEPTEMBER 9, 2021.

DECEMBER 1, 2021, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE

APPLICATION TO BE CONSISTENT.

NOTICE WAS PROVIDED TO THE OWNER, NEARBY PROPERTY

OWNERS AND REGISTERED ORGANIZATIONS.

THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES SECTION 27-257

NOTES THAT THE BUILDING MUST BE CONSTRUCTED OR ACHIEVED

DURING A PERIOD OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE.

AND THIS BUILDING WAS IN 1906.

AND IT STATES THAT THE DESIGNATED LANDS MARKS MUST BE

-- MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA.

THIS BUILDING IS IN THE AREA OF COMMERCE AND IN THE

AREA OF ARCHITECTURE AS A TYPICAL EXAMPLE OF A WEST

TAMPA HISTORIC STRUCTURE FROM THIS EARLIER A.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL 1208 NORTH

HOWARD AVENUE AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK AND PART OF

THE WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES LISTING AS BASE ON

THE CRITERIA 2022-257.

STAFF WOULD LIKE TO THANK TAMPA MULTIPROPERTIES GROUP.

AND WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE AIA GROUP IN THE

AUDIENCE.

I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

10:44:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.

I DON'T HAVE A HISTORY LESSON ON THIS BUILDING.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?

NOPE.

YES, SIR, MR. MOORE.

10:44:21 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.

WELCOME, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

NICE TO SEE YOU.

I AM JONATHAN MOORE, THE CURRENT VICE PRESIDENT OF

AIA TAMPA BAY.

ON BEHALF OF OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT GERALD MCCANTS, OUR

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR DON MADRIS WHO ARE HERE AND OUR 750

LOCAL MEMBERS, WE ARE THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO SERVE AS

AN EXAMPLE IN HISTORICALLY DESIGNATING OUR NEW HOME.

WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO BECOME A PART OF WEST TAMPA AND

OPEN THIS RENOVATED -- RENOVATED BUILDING TO THE

COMMUNITY AS THE CENTER FOR ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN.

THIS DESIGNATION WILL ENSURE THAT THIS BUILDING WILL BE

A PERMANENT ASSET TO WEST TAMPA AND NOT BECOME A

PARKING LOT AS A PREVIOUS OWNER WAS LOOKING TO DO.

AND WE WILL BE SURE TO INVITE EVERYONE TO OUR GRAND

OPENING LATER THIS YEAR, AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR

SUPPORT.

10:45:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

NOPE?

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM 49 IN THE AUDIENCE?

I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK.

BUT ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK IN A MOTION TO CLOSE BY

COUNCILMAN GUDES.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR.

COUNCILMAN GUDES, READ 49.

10:45:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WILL TAKE A STAB AT IT, FILE NUMBER

E 2022-8 CHAPTER 27, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR

FIRST READING, ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,

ENDING THE WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES GROUP TO

INCLUDE PROPERTY LOCATED 1208 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE

TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AS A LOCAL

LANDMARK PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCE IN CONFLICT,

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.

10:46:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

10:46:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR OPINION AYE.

ANY OPPOSED.

10:46:11 >>CLERK:
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE MAY 5,

2022 AT 9:30 A.M.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

10:46:19 >>BILL CARLSON:
SINCE YOU DIDN'T TELL A HISTORY STORY.

THANKS TO AIA FOR STARTING HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN THE

UNITED STATES.

I HAVE BEEN TO THEIR HEADQUARTERS IN WASHINGTON D.C.

AND TAKEN A TOWARD WITH MICKEY JACOBS THE INTERNATIONAL

PRESIDENT OF AIA.

NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS, REMEMBER THE STORY OF DOLLY

MADISON PULLING THE GEORGE WASHINGTON PAINTING OUT OF

THE WHITE HOUSE --

10:46:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE ONE FADED AT THE BOTTOM.

10:46:43 >>BILL CARLSON:
BRITISH INVADED AND WHERE DID THE

PRESIDENT AND HIS WIFE GO, TO A BUILDING TWO BLOCKS

AWAY AND THAT BUILDING IN THE LATE 1800S PRESERVED BY

THE AIA START OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION MOVEMENT IN

THE UNITED STATES AND HEADQUARTERS IS ADJACENT AND CAN

CONNECTED TO IT AND YOU CAN VISIT IT.

10:47:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU GO TO MY OFFICE, I HAVE OLD

LIFE MAGAZINES FROM THE '60S AND URBAN RENEWAL AND LOSS

OF SO MANY BUILDINGS BEFORE HISTORIC WAS A COMMERCIALLY

USED TERM.

I WISH I HAD A TIME MACHINE TO PRESERVE THESE OLD

BUILDINGS BUT WE DO WHAT WE CAN TODAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DID WE TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.

DID YOU ANNOUNCE THE SECOND READING.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE GO TO OUR 9:30 PUBLIC HEARING.

WE OPENED EVERYTHING.

NONQUASIJUDICIAL.

ITEM NUMBER 50, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WOULD

HAVE TO JUST MOVE THE RESOLUTION AFTERWARDS, CORRECT.

10:47:44 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
THAT IS CORRECT.

MR. CHAIR.

SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

AGREEMENT FOR THE MIDTOWN DEVELOPMENT WHICH I AM SURE

YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.

THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS BEING REQUESTED BECAUSE THE PLAT

THAT DEDICATED PUBLIC DRAINAGE EASEMENT DID NOT ALLOW

ENCROACHMENTS AND THE DEVELOP WEAR LIKE TO MAKE A

COUPLE OF ENCROACHMENTS AND THIS AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW

THAT ENCROACHMENT.

STORMWATER STAFF IS WORKING ON DEVELOPING THIS

AGREEMENT AND THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF THE LIMITED

ENCROACHMENT THAT WOULD PROVIDE.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I KNOW THE DEVELOPER'S ATTORNEY MR. BENTLEY IS HERE IF

YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

10:48:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

NO?

10:48:32 >> SECOND.

10:48:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE NEED PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. BENTLEY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

10:48:38 >> NO THANKS.

10:48:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THINKING OF THE HARD DAY'S NIGHT.

10:48:44 >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU KNOW A LOT ABOUT CHARITY.

WHAT IS THAT CHORD ON THE GUITAR.

10:48:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FOR HARD'S DAY NIGHT?

I DON'T KNOW -- I KNOW IT IS COMPLICATED IF YOU GO TO

YOUTUBE.

A PROFESSOR DID AN ANALYSIS.

10:48:56 >> THE ANSWER IS YOU DON'T KNOW.

10:48:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I DON'T KNOW BUT I KNOW A LOT OF

STUFF.

10:49:03 >> I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

10:49:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO

SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 50.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED.

MOVE THE RESOLUTION BEFORE WE CLOSE OR AFTER.

MOTION TO CLOSE.

MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND SECOND

FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.

10:49:30 >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE, FILE NUMBER -- AM I -- APPRECIATE

IT.

RESOLUTION APPROVED FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT

AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND TAMPA BAY 1 LCC

AUTHORIZING THE EXCUSE THEREOF BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY

OF TAMPA PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:49:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.

10:49:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION CARRIED.

10:49:53 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES ABSENT AT VOTE.

10:50:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
51, NONQUASI.

10:50:02 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM

THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THIS IS A SECOND READING FOR CHAPTER 5 AMENDMENTS FOR

CONSIDERATION BASED ON THE 2021 LEGISLATIVE SESSION

UPDATE.

AND -- I BELIEVE STAFF ORIGINALLY AND -- THE BUILDING

OFFICIAL JC HUTCHINSON AND ABBYE FEELEY AND FOR THE

FIRST READING.

10:50:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

HEARING NONE.

WE DO HAVE JEAN STROHMEYER, REGISTERED FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT.

UNMUTE YOURSELF IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND

SPEAK.

IS JEAN LOGGED IN?

10:50:42 >>CLERK:
JEAN, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE

YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

SHE IS CURRENTLY STUCK IN MUTE.

10:50:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JEAN, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, UNMUTE

YOURSELF.

JEAN STROHMEYER.

THAT IS THE ONLY REGISTERED PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE

HAVE.

ONE LAST CALL FOR JEAN -- JEAN?

10:51:11 >> HELLO?

SORRY.

10:51:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

10:51:15 >> OKAY, WAIT.

I AM WORKING.

WHAT ISSUE ARE WE ON.

10:51:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 51.

YOU ARE ALSO REGISTERED FOR 53.

THIS IS FOR 51.

10:51:24 >> OKAY.

HI, MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER, ITEM 51 OF AMENDING THE

CODE.

I FORGOT WHAT THIS WAS ABOUT AND THAT IS OKAY.

I HAVE AN ACTUAL JOB.

ENDING THE CODE.

WE NEED TO AMEND THE CODE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BALANCE

OF POWER IS FAIR FOR EVERYBODY.

BECAUSE THIS STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT -- I AM --

LOOKING AT IT ON THE AGENDA.

BUT IT IS TOO MUCH.

SO THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

HAVE A GREAT DAY.

10:51:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYBODY ELSE?

ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?

IF NOT, MOTION TO CLOSE.

10:52:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOTION.

10:52:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.

10:52:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I BELIEVE WE LEFT OFF FROM YOU,

SIR.

ITEM 51.

10:52:22 >>BILL CARLSON:
I LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER E 2022-8 CH

5, ORDINANCE PROVIDED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION

ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA MAKING REVISIONS TO THE

CITY TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 5, BUILDING CODE

ENDING SECTION 5-105.3.

APPLICATION FOR A PERMIT AMENDING SECTION 5-105.3.1.

ACTION ON ACTION AMENDING SECTION 5.105.3.4 TIME LIMIT

ON SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS, REFUSAL TO ISSUE PERMIT.

AND AMENDING SECTION 5-106.1.

SUBMITTAL DOCUMENTS AMENDING SECTION 5.106.5, RETENTION

OF CONSTRUCTION AMENDING SECTION 5-109.1.

INSPECTIONS AND SECTION 5-109.5 INSPECTION REQUEST

REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN

CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING SO FOR SEVERABILITY.

10:53:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.

10:53:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL.

10:53:36 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

10:53:37 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

10:53:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:53:40 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

10:53:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

10:53:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:53:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

10:53:49 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:53:52 >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIRMAN, NEXT TIME GET THE ONE

WITH FEWER NUMBERS.

10:53:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL SEE WHAT I CAN DO.

NUMBER 52, IF YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN RISE YOUR RIGHT

HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.

VIRTUAL AND IN-PERSON APPEARANCES.

[SWEARING IN]

10:54:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
EVERYBODY HAS BEEN SWORN IN.

ITEM NUMBER 52, ANNIE BARNES, GO AHEAD,

10:54:18 >>ANNIE BARNES:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

ANNIE BARNES, SU-221-07 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION

FOR 201, 203 AND 205 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE.

SPECIAL USE 2 FOR A BANK DRIVE IN.

SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AT CITY HALL YESTERDAY AND

I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.

ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, I SAW JONATHAN SCOTT, BUT HE IS OFF CAMERA.

NO?

I GUESS THE APPLICANT.

YOU ARE THE APPLICANT -- ARE YOU THE APPLICANT?

10:54:56 >> YES, SIR.

10:54:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I SAW HIM COME ON AND OFF.

10:55:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I INDUSTRIAL ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT

THIS.

10:55:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WITH JONATHAN SCOTT.

IF JONATHAN SCOTT IS ON.

COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:55:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. SCOTT, AGAIN, YOU HAVE ENTRANCES

AND EXITS ON ONE-WAY STREETS THAT RUN PERPENDICULAR TO

ONE ANOTHER.

THAT HAS PASSED THROUGH TRANSPORTATION.

10:55:29 >>JONATHAN SCOTT:
YES, WE REVIEWED THAT AND WE ARE OKAY

WITH IT.

10:55:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGAIN, I HAVE CONCERNS.

THE ONLY THING I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS APPLICATION.

I CAN JUST SEE RIGHT NOW IN THE FUTURE BACK-UPS ON --

WHAT IS IT, CLEVELAND AND HOWARD.

MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:55:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS?

MR. MOORE.

10:55:58 >> JONATHAN MOORE, ENVISION ADVISORS.

OTHER THE AUTHORIZED OWNERS AND ADVISORS ON THE

PROJECT.

HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

10:56:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. MOORE, YOU JUST HEARD OUR COMMENT.

YOU HAVE TO ADMIT WITH ENTRANCE AND EXITS JUST TWO OF

THEM ON ONE WAY STREETS GOING PERPENDICULAR TO ONE

ANOTHER, I SEE THIS AS A -- AS A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE

ESPECIALLY DURING RUSH SHOWER.

10:56:20 >> THERE IS A TURN ALSO OUT OF THE ALLEY.

WE ARE RIGHT TURN ONLY ON TO CLEVELAND, HOWEVER.

WE DON'T WANT OUR PATRONS TO GO TO THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE

OF THE ALLEY.

YOU KNOW, IT IS A SMALL COMMUNITY BANK.

WE DON'T ANTICIPATE A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.

WE DO HAVE TWO DRIVE-THRU LANES.

AND WE EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES.

SO WE DON'T THINK THAT WILL BE AN ISSUE.

10:56:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU SAID RIGHT TURN ON TO CLEVELAND.

10:56:48 >> RIGHT TURN INTO THE ALLEY.

RIGHT TURN ONLY ON TO THE ALLEY, NOT LEFT TURN.

I APOLOGIZE.

10:56:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. MOORE, THANK YOU.

JUST FUTURE THOUGHT.

10:57:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I CAN ELSE?

ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

10:57:03 >> NO, SIR.

10:57:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY HERE IN THE PUBLIC THAT

PUSHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 52?

I SEE NONE AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS

FOR 52.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.

10:57:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.

10:57:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:57:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SU 2-21-TO 7, ORDINANCE SECOND

READING AND APPROVAL A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2

APPROVING A BANK DRIVE-IN A CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL

ZONING DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 201, 203 AND

205 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA.

MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF AND

PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:57:51 >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.

10:57:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:57:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THEY.

10:57:56 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

10:57:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:58:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

10:58:02 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

10:58:03 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

10:58:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:58:10 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:58:11 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:58:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM 53, ANNIE BARNES IS ON THE

LINE,

10:58:20 >>ANNIE BARNES:
LAND DEVELOPMENT, ITEM NUMBER 53,

REZ-21-89 FOR 5202 SOUTH PURITAN AVENUE FROM RS-60 TO

RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.

I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.

10:58:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?

YES, SIR, MR. MICHELINI.

10:58:40 >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

YOU MIGHT RECALL THIS PETITION WAS REORIENTED THE

EXISTING TWO LOTS AND TURNING THEM SO THEY ARE

CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE OTHER HOUSES

ON -- ALONG BALLAST POINT.

I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.

I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

10:58:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

HEARING NONE.

ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM

NUMBER 53.

SEEING NO ONE.

I KNOW JEAN STROHMEYER WHO IS REGISTERED AND JEAN

HAS BEEN SWORN IN, I BELIEVE.

NO, YOU KNOW WHAT, MISS STROHMEYER, IF WE CAN SWEAR YOU

IN.

DOES SHE NEED TO BE -- CAN YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.

WE NEED TO SEE YOUR FACE BECAUSE IT IS A SECOND READING

AND QUASI JUDICIAL.

JEAN STROHMEYER.

10:59:36 >>CLERK:
SHE IS CURRENTLY SELF-MUTED.

SHE WILL NEED TO UNMUTE HERSELF AND ACTIVATE HER CAMERA

SO SHE CAN BE SWORN IN.

10:59:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY, JEAN STROHMEYER, FULL PLEASE

UNMUTE YOURSELF AND TURN YOUR CAMERA ON SO WE CAN SEE

YOUR FACE AND SWEAR YOU IN.

10:59:57 >>CLERK:
JEAN IS CURRENTLY NOT REGISTERED.

10:59:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WELL, ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT VIRTUALLY.

THE ONLY PERSON.

A MOTION TO CLOSE.

11:00:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.

11:00:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.

11:00:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSED?

COUNCILMAN VIERA, READ ITEM 53.

11:00:13 >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND

ADOPTION REZONING PROPERTY 520 2 SOUTH PURITAN

AVENUE IN THE ST. CITY OF TAMPA MORE PARTICULARLY

DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, REZONING RS-60 RESIDENTIAL

SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY.

PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:00:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

11:00:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:00:37 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:00:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:00:40 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

11:00:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:00:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:00:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:00:46 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:00:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.

11:00:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEMS NUMBER 54.

MISS BARNES.

11:01:02 >>ANNIE BARNES:
ITEM NUMBER 54 REZ-21-122.

SECOND READING AND ADOPTION 409 SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE.

FROM RM-16 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY TO PD, PLANNED

DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND

RESIDENTIAL TWO-FAMILY.

AND DOCUMENTS WERE DROPPED OFF.

I AM AVAILABLE TO IN QUESTIONS.

11:01:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I SEE MR. DOBSON.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR NEW BEFORE YOU

SPEAK.

[SWEARING IN]

11:01:33 >> I DO.

11:01:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR, GO

AHEAD.

11:01:38 >> NO REAL ISSUES HERE.

I BELIEVE EVERYTHING WAS FOUND CONSISTENT BY ALL THE

DEPARTMENTS THAT REVIEWED.

AND WE RECEIVED A FAVORABLE VOTE LAST TIME.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

11:01:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?

HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE.

ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER

54?

I SEE NO ONE.

AND THE GENTLEMAN IS THE ONLY REGISTERED SPEAKER.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.

11:02:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION.

11:02:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

11:02:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSED.

COUNCILMAN CITRO, READ ITEM 54.

11:02:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
REZ-21-122, AN ORDINANCE BEING

PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OF REZONING

THE PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 409 SOUTH

FREMONT AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE

PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING

CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY TO PD,

PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY

DETACHED AND RESIDENTIAL TWO-FAMILY, PROVIDING FOR AN

EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:02:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

11:02:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:02:47 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:02:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:02:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:02:50 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

11:02:51 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:02:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:02:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:02:56 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:03:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU.

11:03:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANNIE BARNES.

11:03:06 >>ANNIE BARNES:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

ANNIE BARNES.

NUMBER 55 IS REZ-21-125 FOR SECOND READING AN ADOPTION

FOR 2501 NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE.

THE REQUEST IS FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY TO

RS-50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY.

I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:03:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? DO WE

HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 55?

WE DO NOT HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE.

NO ONE REGISTERED FOR 55.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?

11:03:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.

11:03:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.

11:03:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

SECOND BY MIRANDA.

COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

NUMBER 55.

11:03:59 >>LYNN HURTAK:
55, FILE NUMBER R EZ 21-125.

FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ORDINANCE REZONING

PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2501 NORTH GLENWOOD

DRIVE IN CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY

DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION

RS-60 AND RS-50.

11:04:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.

11:04:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:04:26 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:04:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:04:27 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

11:04:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:04:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:04:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:04:37 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:04:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT UP, ITEM NUMBER 56.

YES, MA'AM.

ANNIE BARNES.

11:04:46 >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, ITEM NUMBER 5, FILE

NUMBER REZ-22-22, FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION FOR

3304 WEST HORATIO STREET FROM RM-24 TO PD FOR PLACE OF

RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.

AND DOCUMENTS WERE DROPPED OFF AND I AM AVAILABLE ANY

QUESTIONS.

11:05:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF I QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

APPLICANT FOR 56?

11:05:13 >> JONATHAN MOORE, ENVISION ADVISORS, THE OWNER'S

REPRESENTATIVE FOR FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF TAMPA.

YOU RECALL THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT THE FIRST

PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF TAMPA SOLD THEIR PROPERTY

DOWNTOWN.

THEY ARE MOVING TO SOUTH TAMPA ON THE PROPERTY OF AN

OLD UNITARIAN CHURCH THAT HAD SEVERAL NONCOMPLIANT

ZONING ISSUES THAT WE BROUGHT THAT INTO COMPLIANCE AND

ASK FOR A FEW WAIVERS.

I BELIEVE EVERYTHING IS FOUND CONSISTENT.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

11:05:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?

WE DO NOT.

ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM

NUMBER 56?

WE DO NOT.

AND WE HAVE NOT ANYBODY REGISTERED.

HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?

MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

COUNCILMAN GUDES, ITEM NUMBER 56 IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

11:06:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
FILE NUMBER REZ 22-22, ORDINANCE

REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VIN TEE OF 3302 WEST

HORATIO STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE

PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 OF ZONING DISTRICT

CLASSIFICATION RM-24, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY TO PD,

PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY

PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE BY CARLSON-MANISCALCO, THAT

THE APPLICANT HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE

COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FURTHER IN THE

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CITY CODE THAT IT WILL NOT

SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS WHOSE

PROPERTY WILL BE FA AFFECTED BY THE WAIVERS AND THAT

THE SITE PLAN BY ANNIE BARNES FROM DEVELOPMENT AND

GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

11:06:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

11:06:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:07:00 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

11:07:03 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:07:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:07:05 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:07:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:07:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:07:10 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:07:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ITEM NUMBER 57.

WE HAVE -- YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

11:07:19 >> LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

I NEED TO BE SWORN IN, PLEASE.

[SWEARING-IN]

11:07:28 >> I DO.

ROSS SALMANS LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

PRESENTING V AC 21-18 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

A VACATING REQUEST FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ALLEYWAY

LOCATED SOUTH OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD, NORTH OF CLEVELAND

STREET, EAST OF HESPERIDES STREET AND WEST OF LAUBER

WAY.

STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

11:07:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE GENTLEMAN?

NOPE?

OKAY.

MR. PRESSMAN.

YOU ARE IN PERSON BUT REGISTERED VIRTUALLY.

SO I WILL SCRATCH YOU OUT HERE.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:08:08 >> I ASSUME YOU PREFER ME HERE PERSONALLY, MR.

CHAIRMAN.

BUT I WILL WAIVE A PRESENTATION UNLESS THERE ARE

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, IF I MAY.

11:08:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE

APPLICANT IF I MAY.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK

ON ITEM NUMBER 57?

NO ONE REGISTERED OTHER THAN THE GENTLEMAN THAT IS

HERE.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?

11:08:28 >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION.

11:08:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

11:08:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSED.

COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ITEM NUMBER 57.

11:08:42 >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE FILE NUMBER VAC 21-18, PRESENTED

FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ORDINANCE OF THE CITY

OF TAMPA, TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING CLOSING

DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING A RIGHT-OF-WAY, ALLEYWAY

LOCATED SOUTH OF KENNEDY, NORTH OF CLEVELAND STREET,

EAST OF HESPERIDES STREET, AND WEST OF LAUBER WAY WITH

THE PLAT OF ROSEMONT SUBDIVISION, OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,

HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT

AND PENALTY, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS

AND REPEALING CONFLICTS PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:09:21 >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.

11:09:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL.

11:09:24 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

11:09:25 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:09:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:09:29 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:09:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.

11:09:35 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:09:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:09:39 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO AND

CITRO BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.

11:09:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 58.

WE COULDN'T DO THIS EARLIER BECAUSE IT WASN'T THE TIME.

BUT AN ITEM TO BE CONTINUED UNTIL

MAY 5.

A MOTION TO CONTINUE.

11:10:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOTION.

11:10:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.

11:10:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.

OPPOSED?

ALL RIGHT, WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 59.

11:10:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:10:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU WANT A PUBLIC COMMENT ON

THE CONTINUANCE?

11:10:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IS HERE TO

SPEAK TO IT.

11:10:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYONE TO SPEAK ON 58, BY ANY

CHANCE?

11:10:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OKAY, THANK YOU.

11:10:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL ASK AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE

THE CONTINUANCE.

NO ONE REGISTERED.

ITEM NUMBER 59, GO AHEAD, ROSS.

11:10:39 >> I WILL LIKE TO ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN,

PLEASE CAN EVERYBODY SEE MY SCREEN?

11:10:52 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

11:11:00 >> ROSS SALMON, PROVIDING FILE NUMBER VAC-22-01.

THE APPLICANT IS MAKO WASH, INC.

PROPOSED REQUEST IS TO VACATE A PORTION OF THE ALLEY TO

SOUTH OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD, NORTH OF CLEVELAND AVENUE,

EAST OF MOODY AVENUE AND WEST OF HOWARD AVENUE.

CREATED FOR THE ALLEY IS IN THE PLAT OF OSCAWANA AND IN

THE COMMERCIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT.

THE APPLICATION WAS FILED NOVEMBER 2, 2021.

THE APPLICANT OWNS ALL THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH SIDE

OF THE ALLEY AND THE LOT TO THE ABUTTING PORTION OF THE

REQUEST TO BE VACATED.

THE REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS FOLLOWS: THE ALLEY

IS A LITTERING AND STRONG GARBAGE AREA AND CONSTRAINT

CLEANUP.

UNSECURED AND UNSAFE AT NIGHT.

COMPLEMENTED BY A DARK PARKING LOT WITH NO LIGHTS, VERY

HIGH WINDOWLESS BUILDINGS ON BOTH SIDES THAT PERFECT

TPD NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTS.

THE ALLEY IN THE SOUTH HOWARD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND

NO CODE VIOLATION EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY.

AGAIN, HE IS REQUESTING TO VACATE THE EAST LEG OF A

T-SHAPED ALLEY ON 103 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE.

AND THE ALLEY HAS 1800 SQUARE FEET.

COMPLETELY APPROVED ASPHALT PAVING AND OF THE OWNERS OF

THE NORTH AND SOUTH PORTION AS ACCESS TO HOWARD AVENUE.

SOLID WASTE USES THE ALLEY FOR TRASH COLLECTION.

WASTEWATER, TECO, FRONTIER LOCATING THE ALLEY.

THE ALLEY CONTINUES TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT ALLEY

AND IS APPROVED.

THE ALLEY OF THE EAST WAS PARTIALLY VACATED AND NO

LONGER CONTINUES IN ITS ORIGINAL CONFIGURATION.

HOWEVER, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WAS REQUIRED TO

DEDICATE A TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT OVER THE PROPERTY TO

ALLOW FOR VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN USE OVER THE PARCEL

TO ACCESS THE REMAINDER OF THE IMPROVED ALLEY AT THAT

BLOCK.

THE YELLOW SECTION IS THE REQUESTED VACATING SECTION OF

THE T-SHAPED ALLEY.

THE NORTH-SOUTH SECTION.

EAST-WEST SECTION.

THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS IN RED IN THE NORTH AND TO

THE SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED VACATING.

IN PINK IS THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.

AND THE PREVIOUS 20-FOOT TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT

DEDICATED THAT I SPOKE OF IS IN BLUE HERE.

TO THE EAST OF THE PROPOSED VACATING.

AGAIN, IN RED, THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS

LOCATED WITHIN THE OSCAWANA PLAT.

HERE IT SHOWS WITHIN -- WITHIN THIS SECTION THE AREA OF

THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST AND, AGAIN, THE

OSCAWANA PLAT SUBDIVISION HERE.

THE EAST-WEST SECTION OF THE ALLEYWAY EAST FROM MOODY

AVENUE.

THE PORTION OF THE ALLEY IS THE SUBJECT VACATING.

EAST-WEST PORTION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST FROM THE

INTERSECTION OF THE NORTH AND SOUTH PORTION OF THE

ALLEY.

THIS IS THE SUBJECT OF THE VACATING REQUEST.

AGAIN, THE EAST-WEST VALLEY LOOKING EAST OF MOODY

ANTICIPATE.

THIS PORTION IS NOT TO BE VACATED.

EAST OF THE PORTION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST OF THE

INTERSECTION OF THE NORTH-SOUTH PORTION OF THE ALLEY.

THIS PORTION IS NOT TO BE VACATED.

AGAIN, THE NORTH-SOUTH PORTION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING

NORTH FROM CLEVELAND STREET.

THIS PORTION IS NOT TO BE VACATED.

AND NORTH-SOUTH SECTION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING SOUTH FROM

THE EAST AND WEST PORTION OF THE ALLEY.

REQUESTS TO BE VACATED.

THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH FROM

KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

THESE ARE PROPERTY OWNERS TOWN HOMES THAT ARE ABUT

TODAY NORTH AND SOUTH SECTION OF THE ALLEY THAT IS

REQUESTED TO BE VACATED.

AND, AGAIN, TOWN HOMES.

AND RECOMMENDATION STAFF REJECTS TO THE VACATING

REQUEST BASE AND RESPONSES RECEIVED FROM TRANSPORTATION

PLANNING, TRAFFIC DESIGN, SOUTHWEST AND URBAN DESIGN.

THE REQUEST IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, EASEMENT IS

REQUIRED FOR OVERALL FOR WASTEWATER, TECO, VOLUNTEER,

TRANSPORTATION AND SOLID WASTE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT ANNIE MIKULSKI WITH

URBAN DESIGN IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

11:15:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS?

YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:16:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ROSS.

PUT BACK UP THE ACTUAL PHOTO OF THE ALLEY BEING

VACATED.

11:16:12 >> THIS SECTION HERE?

THE EAST AND WEST SECTION AND THE STOP SIGNS THAT YOU

SEE ARE ALONG THE NORTH AND SOUTH SECTION OF THE ALLEY,

THE T-SHAPED ALLEY AND THE TOWNHOMES OF THE NORTH AND

SOUTH SECTION.

AND THIS EASTERLY PORTION OF THE ALLEY IS TO REQUEST TO

BE VACATED.

BETWEEN THE PARKING HERE AND THIS WALL.

GUDES WHAT IS PAST -- GOING TO THE STOP SIGN FURTHER TO

THE EAST.

AN OPEN ALLEY TOO.

11:16:50 >> YES, I WILL BRING THAT UP.

THIS IS LOOKING THE OTHER WAY.

THAT WAS LOOKING EAST.

WE WERE LOOKING WEST FROM THE PREVIOUS IMAGE AND THIS

IS LOOKING EAST.

IF YOU CAN SEE HERE THE GRASS IN THE BACKGROUND PAST

THIS FENCE, THIS IS THE SECTION REQUESTING TO BE

VACATED.

11:17:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
OKAY, INTERESTING.

THANK YOU.

11:17:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS?

WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

MR. PRESSMAN, YES, SIR.

11:17:28 >> YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT?

I AM THE APPLICANT.

YOU SAID PUBLIC SO I WANT TO MAKE HOUR.

I HAVE A POWERPOINT.

VACATE 22 -- MANY 0S 1.

THERE IS LOITERING, TRASH.

THERE IS A BAD SEPTED CRIMINAL PLANNING AREA AND ALSO

ELIMINATES PUBLIC SAFETY AND DANGEROUS TRAFFIC

SITUATION.

THIS IS THE ACTUAL VACATED AREA BETWEEN HOWARD AND

MOODY ON THE OTHER SIDE.

THIS IS THE CITY STAFF SLIDE, WHICH TELLS YOU THE

SOLID WASTE USES PART OF IT.

AND THE TOWN HOMES THAT ARE LOCATED.

BUT SOLID WASTE ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED ON THE OTHER

SIDE OF THE ALLEY.

AND WE CONSIDER AND PROPOSE A BAD SAFETY CONFLICT HERE

ON THE EXITING OF THE ALLEYWAY THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO

VACATE BECAUSE AS SHOWN BY THE STAFF, THERE IS -- THERE

IS A CIRCUITOUS WAY THE ALLEY CONTINUES ON THE NEXT

BLOCK.

AS THE CIRCLE K WAS RENOVATED OR REDEVELOPED, THE

ALLEYWAY WAS CONTINUED BUT PLACED FURTHER BACK.

SO JUST A LITTLE SKIP TO CONTINUE IN THAT EASTWARD

FUNCTION, BUT HOWARD IS A ONE-WAY STREET.

WHEN YOU EXIT THE ALLEY THAT WE ARE PROPOSING, YOU CAN

SEE JUST A LITTLE SKIP AROUND TO CONTINUE ON THAT

EASTWARD ALLEY.

AND LET'S FACE IT, LOOKING TO GET A QUICK CUP OF

COFFEE.

WANTING TO GET TRAFFIC A LITTLE BIT.

SKIRT AROUND A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE ARE PROPOSING OR RAISING TO YOU THAT THE

ACCOMMODATION THAT WAS DONE IN MOVING THAT ALLEYWAY IN

THE NEXT BLOCK ENTICES A BAD OR VERY BAD TRAFFIC

ELEMENT, AGAIN, BECAUSE HOWARD IS A ONE WAY.

SO THE ALLEY WAY IS LOCATED NEXT TO THIS PARKING LOT,

THE ADJACENT PARKING LOT, SPECIFICALLY THE ALLEY THAT

IS SEGMENT.

YOU CAN BEGIN TO SEE THE VERY HIGH WALLS, OVERBEARING

STRUCTURES THAT ARE VERY DARK AT NIGHT, WHICH PROVIDE

AREAS FOR PEOPLE TO LOITER OR TO HIDE.

THIS IS THE SAME ELEMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE AND YOU CAN

SEE EVEN WORSE HERE.

SEPTED PLANNING HAS FOUR BASIC ELEMENTS: NATURAL

SURVEILLANCE.

THERE IS VERY LITTLE SURVEILLANCE BECAUSE IN PART OF IT

BY THE TOWN HOMES.

NATURAL ACCESS CONTROL.

SO THERE IS CONTROL OR PEOPLE CAN SEE THERE IS CONTROL,

WHICH THERE IS VERY LITTLE.

TERRITORIAL REINFORCEMENT, WHICH THERE ISN'T.

MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT AS WELL.

SO BETWEEN THOSE CONCERNS, WE THOUGHT IT WAS

SUPPORTABLE TO BRING FORWARD FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO

CONSIDER AND APPROVE.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:20:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. PRESSMAN, POLICE RECORDS AND DOCUMENTATION OF

ARRESTS OR LOITERING OR CODE ENFORCEMENT RECORDS OF

HAVING TO PICK UP TRASH OR CLEAR THE ALLEY OUT?

11:21:03 >> THE CAR WASH OWNER DOES DO PICK UP FROM GARBAGE

BECAUSE HE HAS A PRETTY SIZABLE PORTION ALONG KENNEDY.

I HAVE TRAFFIC READ OUT FROM THE INTERSECTION WHICH IS

ABOUT 30 ACCIDENTS OVER A YEAR.

BUT I DO -- I WANT TO BE COMPLETELY CLEAR, THAT IS AT

THE INTERSECTION.

HARD TO DISCERN WHERE THOSE ACCIDENTS OCCUR.

BEYOND THAT, THOSE ARE -- THAT IS THE ONLY DATA OR

RECORDS THAT I HAVE.

11:21:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DO YOU HAVE THEM PHYSICAL ON YOU

TODAY?

11:21:29 >> I HAVE THE ACTION RECORD, YES.

11:21:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MAY ANY PLEASE AND THANK YOU, MR.

CHAIR.

11:21:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. WIGGINTON, ANYTHING TODAY?

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SUBMIT THAT HERE TO THE RECORD FOR

MR. SHELBY.

11:21:45 >> YEAH, IF I MAY.

I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF IT.

IF I CAN TAKE A QUICK FEW PICTURES OF IT AND I WILL

GIVE IT TO MR. SHELBY.

11:21:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU WANT TO SHOW -- DO YOU WANT TO

PASS IT UP -- AND DESCRIBE.

11:21:59 >> LET ME TAKE PICTURES.

11:22:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. WIGGINTON.

11:22:04 >>RON WINGGINTON:
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, AGAIN, AS I COMMUNICATED

BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MISDIRECT ANYONE THESE ARE

PULLED FROM THE INTERSECTION.

DOES NOT SPECIFY -- THERE ARE ONLY INCIDENTS.

WILL TAKE ANOTHER THREE WEEKS --

11:22:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. PRESSMAN, I AM SURE WE CAN GIVE

THIS BACK TO YOU OR MAKE COPIES OF IT.

11:22:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE CAN DO THAT.

THE QUESTION IS DO YOU WANT TO DISPLAY THOSE.

11:22:24 >> I WILL PASS THEM.

11:22:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU WILL PASS THEM AROUND.

11:22:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. WIGGINTON, BEFORE WE GO TO

PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:22:34 >>RON WIGGINTON:
RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

I WANTED TO MAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT THE

ORDINANCE IS GOING TO BE RESERVING A PERMANENT

TRANSPORTATION BOTH FOR PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR

TRAFFIC.

SO THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CLOSE THE VACATED ALLEYWAY.

SO IT WILL REMAIN OPEN.

11:22:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME?

11:22:58 >> RESERVING PERMANENT TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT FOR

VEHICULAR AND TRANSPORTATION SO THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO

CLOSE THE VACATED PORTION OF THE ALLEY WARE.

11:23:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SOLID WASTE CAN COME THROUGH.

HOW ABOUT THE TOWN HOMES?

11:23:14 >> SAME WAY THEY WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT.

11:23:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
REALLY A LEGAL THING TO TAKE OVER

THAT PARCEL OF LAND AND WILL NOT BE CLOSED UP.

THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE WILL NOT BE AFFECTED

OTHER THAN DRIVING -- ON THE PERSON'S EXTENDED

PROPERTY.

11:23:26 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

AS LONG AS WE MAINTAIN THE PERMANENT TRANSPORTATION

EASEMENT WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN THE ORDINANCE.

11:23:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:23:42 >>BILL CARLSON:
CONSIDERING WHAT HE SAID WHY WOULD YOU

WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS.

11:23:47 >> I DISCUSSED WITH THE CLIENT.

HE WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE ARE LOOKING AT IT CLOSER.

HE DOES WANT TO MOVE FORWARD BUT LOOKING AT IT CLOSER

FOLLOWING TODAY'S HEARING.

11:23:55 >>BILL CARLSON:
I KNOW.

MY QUESTION WAS, CONSIDERING THAT THERE IS -- WHAT DID

YOU CALL IT.

A PERMANENT TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT, WHY WOULD -- WHY

WOULD YOUR CLIENT WANT TO DO THIS -- CLOSE THIS IN THE

FIRST PLACE?

WHAT BENEFIT IS IT TO YOUR CLIENT TO CLOSE IT IF IT IS

STILL GOING TO BE OPEN TO TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIANS.

11:24:13 >> I UNDERSTAND.

I BELIEVE HE FEELS IT PROVIDES HIM MORE CONTROL OF

ELEMENTS THAT ARE A PROBLEM ALONG THE ALLEYWAY, WHICH

IS TRASH AND CRIME ISSUES.

11:24:27 >>BILL CARLSON:
WHEN THIS HAPPENS, DO YOU HAVE TO PAY

PROPERTY TAX ON IT TOO?

SO YOU HAVE --

11:24:33 >> THAT WOULD BE A RAMIFICATION, YES, SIR.

11:24:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN

IT TOO.

11:24:38 >> THAT WOULD BE A RAMIFICATION, YES, SIR.

11:24:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:24:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST -- ALONG MR. CARLSON'S --

AND I BELIEVE YOU ARE ONE OF THE FINEST PRESENTERS AND

YOU TELL IT DIRECT.

YOU DON'T HOLD ANYTHING OUT OR ANYTHING ELSE, BUT I

DIDN'T REALIZE THAT AT THE FIRST READING THE AMOUNT OF

INDIVIDUALS THAT WE WERE DISTURBING.

QUITE A FEW.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE HERE TODAY OR NOT.

AND THEN -- WHAT WAS JUST MENTIONED, WE ARE CLOSING A

PIECE OF PROPERTY NO MATTER WHERE IT IS AT AND LEAVING

IT OPEN JUST LIKE IT WAS BEFORE IT WAS CLOSED.

RIGHT?

11:25:16 >> THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, SIR, YES.

11:25:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I GET CONFUSE $ON LITTLE THINGS.

I AM REALLY CONFUSED ON THIS ONE.

11:25:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM ASKING WHAT IS THE POINT.

WHY GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT?

11:25:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO REFLECTION ON YOU, YOUR CLIENT

OR ANYONE ELSE, IF THIS GOES ON AND CLOSED, WHO CAN SAY

THAT LATER ON YOU CAN'T -- ANOTHER COUNCIL AND SAY WHY

DID THEY CLOSE THIS WHEN THEY PAID FOR IT AND CLOSE IT

AGAIN.

SO I JUST -- I AM NOT SPEAKING IN ANY WAY DEROGATORY

BUT OR YOUR CLIENT, BUT I JUST THINK THIS IS A WASTE OF

TIME OF YOUR CLIENT'S BEHALF TO SPEND THIS KIND OF

MONEY TO LEAVE IT THE SAME WAY IT IS.

THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO YOUR CLIENT BY CLOSING IT IF HE

IS GOING TO LEAVE IT OPEN.

LIKE SAYING I WANT TO GET MARRIED BUT I AM NOT GOING TO

MARRY YOU.

I MEAN, I AM JUST MAKING THAT UP REAL QUICK, BUT I

DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

OR I AM IN LOVE WITH YOU BUT I AM GOING TO MARRY

SOMEBODY ELSE.

11:26:14 >> YOU ARE SPEAKING VERY SWEETLY TO ME, COUNCILMAN.

11:26:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM NOT TRYING TO HUMOR ANYBODY,

BUT TRY TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE.

11:26:21 >> THIS WAS DIRECTION I WAS GIVEN.

11:26:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LIKE I SAID, I THINK YOU ARE ONE OF

THE FINEST ONES THAT DOES YOUR PRESENTATION AND YOU ARE

RIGHT WITH IT.

I UNDERSTAND OFF CLIENT ADVISING YOU HOW THEY WANT IT

DONE, BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING.

THANK YOU.

11:26:36 >> I WILL TAKE THIS FEEDBACK BACK TO HIM.

MAKE SURE HE UNDER STANDS.

11:26:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

11:26:44 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

THIS WILL CHANGE THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF THIS PARCEL

AS WELL THEN.

ANY TIME OF LOITERING OR TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS OR ANYTHING,

THE CITY WILL NO LONGER BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

11:26:59 >> WELL, DEFINITELY AFFECT THE FEE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP OF

THE ALLEYWAY.

REMAIN IN THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNER.

IF THIS WAS TO BE VACATED TO THE CENTER LINE AND EACH

WILL GO TO THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT ACCIDENTS

OR ANY KIND OF TRANSPORTATION CONSIDERATIONS, THEN IT

WILL STILL, IN ESSENCE, A TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT.

SO BEING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, THERE IS SOME EXPOSURE TO

THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

11:27:23 >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.

11:27:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:27:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MY NEXT QUESTION.

WHO IS THE LIABILITY FALL ON?

11:27:32 >> GENERALLY SPEAKING A COMBINATION OF -- I MEAN -- IT

WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT WHAT A COURT OF LAW WILL

HOLD, BUT I WOULD SAY EVERYBODY WOULD BE INVOLVED IN

THE LITIGATION INCLUDING THE CITY AND PROPERTY OWNERS.

11:27:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT IS A LAWYER'S DREAM COME TRUE.

[LAUGHTER]

11:27:55 >> IF IT IS APPROPRIATE, IF I MAY, MR. SHELBY ADVISED

ME I SHOULD BE GOING OVER THE CRITERIA FOR YOU TO

CONSIDER IF YOU MAKE THE DECISION TO APPROVE OR

DISAPPROVE.

SOME OF THE FACTORS IS TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE VACATE

ALSO ALLEVIATE THE PUBLIC COST TO MAINTAIN THE

RIGHT-OF-WAY.

ALLEVIATE A PUBLIC NUISANCE DUMPING AND CURTAIL

CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

WHETHER IT WILL FOSTER REDEVELOPMENT OF THE ABUTTING

PROPERTIES.

AND WHETHER THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNER'S PROCESS WILL

BE TOTALLY AND SUBSTANTIALLY DIMINISHED.

11:28:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. PRESSMAN.

THANK YOU FOR INFORMATION FROM THE TPD REPORTS.

I WAS HOPING TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON -- AS YOU WERE

SAYING THE CRIME, THE DUMPING AND CRASH.

THAT IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR AND HOW I WAS GOING TO

BASE MY OPINION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THOSE RECORDS?

I DON'T.

THE ONLY PUBLIC RECORD THAT I HAVE IS THE

TRANSPORTATION RECORDS SUBMITTED.

11:28:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THOSE PHOTOS AND THE ALLEY IS VERY

WELL CLEANED AND WELL MAINTAINED.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFICS OF THE DUMPING.

11:29:04 >> I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THE FEEDBACK FROM MY CLIENT, THE

PROPERTY OWNER, ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

THAT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM.

11:29:12 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:29:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOW GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

FEW PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.

APPROACH THE LECTERN AND SAY YOUR NAME.

I KNOW YOU ARE SWORN IN, EVERYBODY STOOD UP AND RAISED

YOUR RIGHT HAND.

EVERYBODY HAS THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

11:29:31 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS.

ERIC SHERIDAN.

PROPERTY OWNER AT THE MOODY BLUE TOWN HOMES.

I OWN THE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER NEXT TO THE ALLEYWAY.

A GENERAL ENGINEER AND LICENSED GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND

WORK PRESIDENT CONCRETE INDUSTRY AND I AM FAMILIAR WITH

TRANSPORTING LARGE TRANSPORTATION VEHICLES.

HOW I DO DISPLAY THIS ON THE SCREEN?

11:29:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THERE IT IS.

GO AHEAD.

11:29:59 >> YOU SEE IT.

SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS OUR TOWN HOUSE COMMUNITY.

IN IS THE CAR WASH.

THIS IS THE AREA AND SUBJECT THAT WANTS TO BE VACANT.

UP UNTIL TODAY, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT -- ABOUT THE

ORDINANCE OF STILL BEING ABLE TO USE THE ALLEYWAY.

UP UNTIL NOW, WE ASSUMED WE WEREN'T GOING TO STILL HAVE

ACCESS.

BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT HOWARD IS A ONE-WAY ROAD.

CLEVELAND IS A ONE-WAY ROAD.

OUR SURROUNDING ALLEYWAY AROUND OUR COMMUNITY IS

TWO-WAY TRAFFIC.

THIS ALLEY IS TWO-WAY TRAFFIC.

MOODY AVENUE IS TWO-WAY TRAFFIC WITH TANDEM PARKING.

THE VEHICLES -- THESE ARE APPROXIMATE.

THIS ALLEYWAY IS ONLY APPROXIMATELY 8.3 WIDE.

IN ALLEY IS ONLY EIGHT FOOT WIDE.

THIS ALLEY FOR TWO-WAY TRAFFIC IS 16 -- 15 FEET WIDE.

THERE WAS AN ILLUSTRATION THAT WAS PULLED, I BELIEVE,

BY THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE THAT SHOWED WASTE

MANAGEMENT.

HIS ILLUSTRATION WAS INCORRECT.

WASTE MANAGEMENT ACTUALLY TURNS RIGHT AND GOES DOWN TO

HOWARD.

THEY DON'T COME IN OFF OF HOW WAR AND TURN ONTO THE

VALLEY.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS ILLUSTRATION, THEY ARE MAKING

A RIGHT TURN AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY HAVING TROUBLE

MAKING THE TURN AND ENCROACHING ON THE PARKING LOT.

LOOKING AT THESE VIRTUALS, IN THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING

TOWARD MOODY AVENUE.

EIGHT-FOOT ROADWAY.

IN DARK AND SCARY AVENUE THAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH BIG

BLOCK WALLS WAS ONLY INSTALLED RECENTLY BECAUSE I HAD

TO CALL THE CITY OF THE NOISE THIS CAR WASH WAS MAKING

AND THEY HAD TO LOWER THE DECIBELS AND THEY MADE THE

WALL TALLER.

HERE IS THE ILLUSTRATION OF THE ALLEYWAY GOING TO

HOWARD.

IT IS ABOUT 8 FOOT 3.

I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE SAYING WE WILL HAVE ACCESS

LONG-TERM.

THEY VACATE THIS, WE WILL HAVE ACCESS BUT WHAT HAPPENS

DOWN THE ROAD IF THEY DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT

AS YOU GUYS ARE DISCUSSING.

A CAR PARKED DOWN HERE AND A CAR COMING DOWN THIS WAY

AND WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS.

BACK UP AN ALLEY THAT IS 200 FEET LONG?

EVERYBODY USES THIS ROAD.

THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE ARE DRIVING AROUND THE CITY,

WASTE MANAGEMENT, AMAZON.

I DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS A BENEFIT FROM ANYBODY.

11:32:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

11:32:43 >> CONGRATULATIONS, WELCOME TO THE BOARD.

11:32:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT SPEAKER.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

11:32:48 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS.

BRANDY SAKAFOUS, I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO ERIC AND THE

BUILDING THAT DIRECTLY ABUTS THE ALLEY, ONE STANDPOINT

OVER.

TO ADDRESS THE TWO MAIN ISSUES OF CRIME AND TRASH.

I CAN TELL YOU LIVING DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE CAR WASH AND

THE PARKING LOT, THE MAJORITY OF THE TRASH COMES FROM

-- PIECES OF TRASH FLOWING OVER THE CAR WASH WALL.

THIS WEEK ON MONDAY PICKED UP A PIECE OF TRASH OUT OF

MY FRONT YARD AND PRESTIGE CAR WASH RECEIPT.

THE BIGGEST PIECE OF TRASH.

I TRIED TO PUT THIS DOWN HERE.

A BIG LARGE PIECE OF TRASH IN THE PARKING LOT.

A SIGN FROM THE CAR WASH.

AND CAR WASH AND OIL CHANGE, $18.99.

SIX-FOOT, EIGHT-FOOT SIGN THAT FELL DOWN AT THE CAR

WASH EVENTUALLY MADE ITS WAY TO THE PARKING LOT.

NO MAJOR SOURCE OF TRASH IN THE ALLEY.

A LOT OF TRASH IN THE PARKING LOT.

A LOT OF LOITERING IN THE PARKING LOT 12 A.M. SUNDAY, I

CALLED THE NONEMERGENCY TAMPA POLICE LINE BECAUSE

PEOPLE TAILGATING IN THE PARKING LOT BLARING MUSIC,

DRINKING AND SMOKING.

THAT IS AN OCCURRENCE EVERY MONTH OR TWO.

THE ALLEY ISN'T A SOURCE IN MY OPINION TRAFFIC, CRIME

AND TRASH.

IT IS THE DARK PARKING LOT -- THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN

INSTALL LIGHTS.

YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHERE PEOPLE ARE CONGREGATING.

NO THE ALLEY.

AS ERIC POINTED OUT.

I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH IT.

HE HAS GOOD ILLUSTRATIONS.

THE ALLEY TURNING TO HOWARD WITH A REQUEST TO VACATE IS

A LITTLE BIT WIDER.

I WILL SHOW THE PROPORTION THAT IS PROPOSED TO REMAIN

OPEN.

THERE IS A TREE.

THERE IS AN UTILITY POLE.

THERE IS ANOTHER TREE MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT TO MAKE

THAT LEFT-HAND TURN AND A LOT MORE NARROW THEN THE MORE

OPEN OPTION MAKING A RIGHT TO HOWARD WHICH IS WHY

LIKELY WASTE MANAGEMENT, MOST DELIVERY VEHICLES, YOU

KNOW, THE OTHER PIECE FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, AGAIN,

THERE IS A TOTAL OF 16 PROPERTIES, EIGHT FRONTING THE

ALLEY THAT RUNS PERPENDICULAR TO THE VACATED ALLEY.

I LIVED THERE SINCE NOVEMBER 17, FOUR AND A HALF YEARS

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE SINGLE TIME IN -- IN THE FOUR

YEARS JUST ON A SINGLE HAND THAT I WOULD GO TO MOODY

AND MAKE A LEFT ON KENNEDY.

THAT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC SEEMS DANGEROUS.

I GO ON TO HOWARD TO MAKE A LEFT.

SAME THING TO ACCESS TO I-275 ANYTHING TO GET TO

MIDTOWN AND DALE MABRY.

GO TO HOWARD AND USE A TRAFFIC LIGHT FOR A

THOROUGHFARE.

I UNDERSTAND WE WILL USE IT FOR TRANSPORTATION

PURPOSES, BUT MY HISTORY WITH THE CAR WASH.

THE OWNER, THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

THEY HAVEN'T BEEN GREAT NEIGHBORS.

NO PLAN -- CHANGE OF USE BUT IF THEY EVER PLAN TO GO

JOIN THE PROPERTIES AND DO ANYTHING.

THEY HAVEN'T BEEN GREAT OF MAINTAINING THEIR PROPERTY.

I DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL MAINTAIN THE

ALLEY.

11:35:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:35:55 >> THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

11:35:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT SPEAKER, STATE YOUR NAME.

11:36:03 >> MICHAEL PAHANIC, ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER AND VICE

PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

I ECHO WHAT THE OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE SAID BUT WOULD LIKE

TO SHOW THE PICTURES SHOWING THE TYPE OF NEIGHBOR WE

ARE DEALING WITH.

AND PEOPLE WHO ARE CLAIMING TRASH AND CRIME.

THIS IS JUST A DAILY EXAMPLE OF THE BUSINESS, THE LOT

THAT THEY HAVE THAT IS ADJACENT TO MY PROPERTY.

I LIVE ACROSS THE ALLEY ON THE FRONT SIDE.

THE MOODY SIDE.

THAT IS JUST THE OVERHEAD OF THE EYESORE OF EVERYTHING

IS.

THE DUMPSTER.

THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE DUMPSTER.

THE TRASH IS PART OF THAT PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY THROW

EVERYTHING IN THAT DUMPSTER.

NOTHING IN BAGS.

NO CARE FOR IT.

EVERYTHING JUST BLOWS AROUND.

THIS IS THE AFOREMENTIONED CAR WASH WHICH -- WHERE IT

WAS ORIGINALLY WHICH IS A HALF A BLOCK AWAY IN THE

FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY.

JUST THE TYPE OF CARE THEY TAKE CARE -- OR HOW THEY

TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY.

COUPLE MORE VISUALS HERE TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE ARE

LOOKING AT.

THE PEOPLE WHO WORRY ABOUT HOW THINGS APPEAR.

THE OTHER THING THAT -- I LIVE ON THE FRONT SIDE, THE

MOODY AVENUE SIDE, AND IT IS ALREADY -- A SMALL BLOCK.

TRYING TO DIVERT MORE TRAFFIC THERE.

IT IS JUST GOING TO BE MORE DANGEROUS.

AS BRANDY SAID, TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT ON KENNEDY OFF OF

MOODY IS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

AND EVEN MAKING A RIGHT DURING RUSH SHOWER TO GET TO

HOWARD WHICH LEADS TO 270, -- 265, ANOTHER DIFFICULT

TASK.

LIMITS OUR ACCESS TO GO NORTH AND WEST.

AND IN ADDITION -- IF WE GO SOUTH, WE RUN INTO

CLEVELAND WHICH IS A ONE WAY WHICH RUNS INTO MACDILL

WHICH IS ANOTHER ONE WAY -- ARMENIA WHICH IS A ONE WAY.

WE ARE LIMITED WHERE WE CAN GO WITH THE GROWING

POPULATION AROUND THE AREA.

WE NEED MORE ACCESS TO THE ROAD, NOT CUTTING OFF ONE OF

OUR FEW WAYS TO GET THERE.

THANK YOU.

11:38:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS?

ONE REGISTERED, A SHELBIE ELLIOTT.

IS SHELBIE ELLIOTT --

11:38:15 >> HELLO, YES, THIS IS SHELBY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME.

11:38:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, BUT WE NEED FOR YOU TO TURN

ON YOUR CAMERA AND WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN.

ARE YOU ABLE TO TURN ON YOUR CAMERA?

11:38:26 >> LET'S SEE.

I THINK THAT I AM SHARING.

YES.

11:38:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THERE YOU ARE.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.

[SWEARING IN]

11:38:37 >> I DO.

11:38:39 >>CLERK:
THANK YOU.

11:38:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

11:38:46 >> I AM A PROPERTY OWNER AT THE MOODY BLUES TOWN HOMES

JUST ADJACENT -- THE BUILDING ADJACENT TO THE NEIGHBORS

THAT JUST SPOKE.

AND I AM JUST COMMENTING AND OPPOSED TO THE -- TO THE

-- THE REQUEST.

I AM SO -- REALLY JUST ECHOING WHAT MY OTHER NEIGHBORS

HAVE MENTIONED.

THERE IS A SAFETY ISSUE IF THERE IS MORE TRAFFIC

DIRECTED ON TO MOODY ON THAT -- FROM THE ALLEY

CURRENTLY.

WE ALREADY HAVE ISSUES WITH SPEEDING CARS COMING FROM

KENNEDY DOWN TO CLEVELAND, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A VERY

NARROW STREET AS ERIC MENTIONED.

THAT TANDEM PARKING.

IF YOU HAVE A TRUCK COMING DOWN THIS STREET, USUALLY

ONE VEHICLE HAS TO STOP AND ALLOW ANOTHER VEHICLE TO

PASS DOWN THE STREET.

ALSO, I THINK ERIC WAS MENTIONING IF THERE ARE VEHICLES

THAT ARE TRAVELING NORTH FROM CLEVELAND IN THE ALLEY

WAY THAT -- I THINK IT IS PERPENDICULAR TO THE -- TO

THE -- SECTION THAT IS THE REQUEST IS BEING MADE TO

VACATE IF THEY ARE GOING TO BACK UP, IF I CAN'T USE

THAT SECTION, THEY MAY NOT BACK IT UP ALL THE WAY FROM

THE ALLEY, ON TO THE -- THE DRIVEWAYS OF THOSE TOWN

HOMES THAT BACK UP TO THE ALLEY WHICH WE ARE IN THE

PROCESS OF REPAVING THAT.

SO I CAN POTENTIALLY SEE DAMAGE FROM ALL OF THE -- THE

VEHICLES.

SO WE ARE PLACING IN THAT AREA.

I -- I CAN SEE IT POTENTIALLY AFFECTING OUR PROPERTY

VALUES DEPENDING ON WHAT THE CAR WASH DOES WITH THAT --

WITH THAT PARKING LOT.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE PLANS ARE.

AS EVERYONE MENTIONED THEY HAVEN'T BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS.

I HAVE CONSTANTLY -- YOU KNOW, ON A WEEKLY BASIS, THERE

ARE TRASH RECEIPTS FROM THE CAR WASH EVEN ON THE FRONT.

ON THE MOODY AVENUE PROPERTIES.

AND AS BRANDY MENTIONED THE TRASH I HAVE THAT SEEN AND

THE PARKING LOT.

I NEVER HAD ISSUES GOING DOWN THAT ALLEY IF I WANTED TO

GO ACROSS THE STREET TO -- TO THE GAS STATION OR, YOU

KNOW, UTILIZE HOWARD.

I NEVER FELT IN DANGER.

I NEVER SEEN ANY TYPE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OCCURRING

THERE.

YOU KNOW THE EYESORE COMES FROM THE CAR WASH AND FROM

THAT PARKING LOT.

SO I THINK THAT IS -- THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO MY

COMMENTS.

11:41:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.

YES, MR. SHELBY.

11:41:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I THINK WE HAVE SOME EX-PARTE

COMMUNICATIONS BEFORE WE HEAD INTO THE REBUTTAL.

11:41:47 >>LUIS VIERA:
IF MAY, MR. CHAIR.

I AM HAVING MY AIDE PRINT THIS OUT.

I LITERALLY RIGHT NOW GOT A TEXT, WHICH I AM SENDING TO

MY AIDE FROM NICHOLAS STUCCO WITH TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS

THAT READS AS FOLLOWS.

AND I AM GOING TO PRINT OUT COPY FOR ALL INTERESTED

PARTIES.

THAT IS WHY I STEPPED OUTSIDE OF THE ROOM.

MAY I READ IT.

11:42:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PLEASE, THAT IS THE SUM AND

SUBSTANCE.

11:42:11 >>LUIS VIERA:
NOTHING ADVERSE.

GOOD MORNING, COMMA, ANY TIME ALLEYS WANT TO BE VACATED

FIRE MARSHAL SHOULD BE AWARE FOR APPROVAL AND DENIAL

BASED ON FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS BECAUSE ELIMINATING

RIGHT-OF-WAY AND LADDER ACCESS.

WE ELIMINATE RE, WE LIMB -- RIGHT-OF-WAY, WE LIMIT.

I DISCLOSE IT BECAUSE A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER.

11:42:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CITRO.

11:42:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
RECEIVED THE SAME TEXT MESSAGES FROM

THE SAME PERSON.

I IMMEDIATELY DID A SCREEN SHOT AND SENT IT OFF TO MY

AIDE TO LEGAL.

11:42:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
GO TO THE CLERK.

11:42:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
TO THE CLERK OF THE COURT, WHICHEVER

YOU WANT TO ADVICE.

I WANT TO DISCLOSE THAT.

11:42:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND NOW.

11:42:56 >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY.

IF I MAY, AGAIN, THE INDIVIDUAL WHO SENT IT I AM SURE

HAD NO ILL-WILL OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE BUT THE

PUBLIC, A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER AND WE MAY NOT HAVE

DISCUSSIONS WITH ANYONE OUTSIDE OF THAT WHICH IS MADE

PUBLIC ON THIS SPECIFIC MATTER WHICH IS WHY COUNCILMAN

CITRO AND I IMMEDIATELY DISCLOSED THIS WHEN I HAPPENED

TO SEE IT.

AND THERE IS MY WONDERFUL AID WITH THE DOCUMENT AND I

WILL GIVE TO ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE IT INCLUDING MR.

PRESSMAN.

11:43:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU HAD THE SAME MESSAGE.

11:43:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SAME MESSAGE.

TIM, IF YOU PRINT THAT OUT FOR ME SO I CAN HAND IT --

11:43:35 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.

11:43:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:43:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:43:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I CAN JUST TELL YOU I WILL NEVER

GET A TEXT BECAUSE I DON'T BRING MY PHONE TO THE DAIS.

I AM JUST TELLING YOU, WHATEVER.

AND THAT WAY YOU TAKE ALL THE -- OUT OF ACTION.

NO REFLECTION ON NO ONE.

I AM NOT SAYING ANYTHING.

11:43:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT'S EASY.

11:44:00 >>BILL CARLSON:
IF I RECEIVE TEXT OR E-MAIL, I AM NOT

AWARE OF IT.

BUT IF I DID, I WILL TURN IN WHEN WE GET OUT.

THANK YOU.

11:44:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO CAP

IT OFF BY SAYING TO THE PUBLIC -- PLEASE AS STATED BY

THE COUNCIL, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE

CITY COUNCIL BY ELECTRONIC MEANS DURING -- DURING A

MEETING.

THE MEETING IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE IN THE SUNSHINE.

THANK YOU.

11:44:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.

THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

MR. PRESSMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW-UP OR ANY

QUESTIONS FOR MR. PRESSMAN?

11:44:41 >> I WILL TAKE THE COMMENTS, PARTICULARLY THE FIRE

DEPARTMENT TO MY CLIENT, WE WILL DISCUSS IT AND I WILL

MAKE THE STAFF AND COUNSEL AWARE.

11:44:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

A MOTION TO CLOSE IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS?

11:44:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SO MOVED.

11:44:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

11:44:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND SECOND.

ITEM NUMBER 59, WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

WHERE DID WE LEAVE OFF.

DOES ANYBODY WISH TO TAKE A STAB OF IT.

11:45:16 >>CLERK:
MIRANDA WAS LAST.

11:45:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA?

11:45:19 >>LUIS VIERA:
NO, SIR.

FOR THE RECORD, I HAD -- JUST FOR THE RECORD GIVEN THAT

TEXT, I HAD NO COMMUNICATION WITH ANYONE ON THAT MATTER

OUTSIDE OF THAT WHICH HAS BEEN DISCLOSED JUST FOR THE

RECORD AGAIN.

I AM NOT JUST A ELECTED OFFICIAL BUT ALSO A MEMBER OF

THE FLORIDA BAR.

THANK YOU.

11:45:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WILL READ IT.

AGAIN, I CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN.

I HAVE NO COMMUNICATION OUTSIDE OF IT BUT THE BASIS WHY

I AM GOING TO DENY IT AS EVERYONE ON THIS COUNCIL HAS

HEARD THAT IN MY OPINION, THE OBSTRUCTION -- EXCUSE ME

THE THINGS THAT WERE BEING SAID OF JUNK, TRASH, DEBRIS,

AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

I DIDN'T SEE ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT EITHER WITH THE

POLICE REPORT, CODE ENFORCEMENT REPORTS, AND I DO NOT

FEEL IT IS NECESSARY TO CLOSE IT RIGHT-OF-WAY.

11:46:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN.

I WILL READ IT.

11:46:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU READ IT.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:46:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

YOU ARE LOOKING FOR -- YOU ARE LOOKING -- YOU ARE GOING

TO READ THE ORDINANCE?

11:46:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WILL READ IT BUT IF IT DOESN'T GET

A SECOND.

VAC-22-01.

ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION,

ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,

CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING A RIGHT-OF-WAY,

ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD, NORTH OF

CLEVELAND STREET, EAST OF MOODY AVENUE AND WEST OF

HOWARD AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF OSCAWANA A SUBDIVISION

IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS

FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN

COVENANTS CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE

PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HERE IN.

PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS

PROVIDE FOR DEFINITIONS AND EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:47:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THERE A SECOND?

IS THERE A SECOND?

YES, SIR.

11:47:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST A REMINDER THAT THE MAKER OF THE

MOTION WOULD BE -- WOULD HAVE TO VOTE AFFIRMATIVE.

ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT, SIR?

I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE --

11:47:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WAS READING THE ORDINANCE TO SEE IF

IT GETS A SECOND.

IF IT DOESN'T GET A SECOND, IT DIES.

MANISCALCO NOONTIME SECTION.

THE MOTION IS DEAD.

DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.

DO WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION?

THIS WOULD BE A MOTION FOR DENIAL.

11:47:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T WANT TO BE

HERE UNTIL 8:00 AT NIGHT JUST LOOKING AT EACH OTHER, SO

I THINK THE COUNCIL FROM WHAT I SEE -- MR. GUDES SAID

IT -- NOT THAT HE WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR IT.

ONCE HE MADE THE MOTION HE HAS TO VOTE FOR IT.

THAT IS THE LAW.

YOU CAN SECOND THE MOTION AND -- BUT IF YOU MAKE THE

MOTION YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

JUST IN THE TIME OF SAFETY, I MOVE TO DENY ITEM 59,

VAC-22-01 BASED ON THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED FROM THE

-- FROM THE DEPARTMENTS OF -- NO EVIDENCE THAT SAYS

THAT THE TRASH WAS GENERATED IN OTHER WAYS TO ANY

PREPONDERANCE THAT WE SAW DURING THE HEARING AND THAT

THE BENEFIT OF CLOSING THE ALLEY AND REMAINING OPEN AT

THE SAME TIME UNDER WHATEVER CONDITIONS WERE PROPOSED

IS NOT APPLICABLE OTHER THAN SOMEONE USING IT.

AND USE FOR GARBAGE, SANITATION PICK-UP, FOR EMERGENCY

CALLS AND OTHER THINGS ARE NEEDED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD,

AND, THEREFORE, I JUST DON'T FEEL IT IS THE RIGHT THING

TO DO TO MOVE THIS ALLEY AND MAKE IT PERSONAL TO DENY

THE RIGHTS OF THE USE OF THE OTHERS.

THIS ALLEY IS USED.

IT IS NOT AN ALLEY THAT IS DORMANT.

THIS ALLEY FROM THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED AT THE

PUBLIC HEARING IS PREDOMINANTLY USED BY ALL.

AND IT IS NEEDED TO MOVE IN CASE OF FIRE, IN CASE OF --

EVEN IF POLICE WORK, THAT THEY HAVE TO USE THE ALLEY

AND IT IS AVAILABLE.

I MOVE TO DENIAL BASED ON THAT.

11:49:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.

11:49:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM A COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:49:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:49:28 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:49:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:49:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:49:31 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

11:49:32 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:49:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:49:36 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:49:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 60.

WE HAVE AN E-MAIL FROM TIM JOHNSON REQUESTING TO BE

CONTINUED -- FOR THIS ITEM TO BE TENDS UNTIL APRIL 21.

ANYBODY HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE CONTINUANCE,

JUST THE CONTINUANCE?

SEEING NONE.

AND I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED, DO I HAVE A MOTION

TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL APRIL 21.

10 :30.

11:50:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TIME SO IT IS CLEAR.

11:50:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
10:30.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL RIGHT, NUMBER 61 A MOTION -- WAS THERE A MOTION FOR

--

11:50:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SOMEONE HERE ON 61.

11:50:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO CONTINUE ON THIS OR

NO?

GO AHEAD, ROSS.

11:50:38 >> ROSS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

I WOULD LIKE THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN AGAIN,

PLEASE.

11:50:51 >>CLERK:
ROSS, IT IS SHOWING THAT YOU ARE ALREADY A

PRESENTER.

11:51:00 >> OKAY.

11:51:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.

11:51:03 >> CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN NOW?

11:51:05 >> GO AHEAD.

11:51:09 >> LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION PROVIDING VAC-22-08.

THE APPLICATION IS WEST TAMPA HOLDINGS LCC.

A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE UNAPPROVED

ALLEY SOUTH OF YUKON STREET, NORTH OF SUE WARD STREET,

EAST OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AVENUE AND WEST OF INTERSTATE

275.

CENTRAL AVENUE.

WITHIN THE PLAT OF IRVINTON HEIGHTS IN THE EAST TAMPA

ZONING DISTRICT.

APPLICANT OWNS A PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ALLEY

THAT IS REQUESTING TO BE VACATED.

THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS ONLY TO

VACATE THE ALLEY.

THIS ALLEY IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.

EXISTING CODE VIOLATIONS FOR THE PROPERTY AND FOR

ACCUMULATION OF OVERGROWTH.

21-03455.

THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO VACATE THE ALLEY 8607 NORTH

SEMINOLE AVENUE.

EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS 4100 SQUARE FEET.

UNAPPROVED FOR ACCESS AND NOT ALLOWING USE FOR ABUTTING

OWNERS.

A TREE BLOCKS THE ALLEY.

SEVERAL UTILITIES UTILIZE THE ALLEY AND REQUIRE

EASEMENT REGULATIONS.

ALLEY DOES NOT CONTINUE NORTH.

THE ALLEY ORIGINALLY CONTINUED TO THE SOUTH BUT THE

ALLEY HAS BEEN VACATED.

OWNERS 8608 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE HAVE SENT AN E-MAIL

REQUESTING ACCESS TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AND SAME

E-MAIL REGARDING CONCERN IS INCLUDED IN THE

PRESENTATION OF PHOTOS OF THE REAR OF THE PARCEL

SHOWING THEIR PARKING PAD.

THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS IN RED.

PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS IN YELLOW.

IT IS 275, CENTRAL AVENUE.

SEWARD.

AGAIN, THE ALLEYWAY IN PINK.

THIS IS THE ALLEYWAY WITHIN THE PLAT OF IRVINTON

HEIGHTS.

AGAIN, JUST SHOWING THE AREA WITHIN THE SECTION.

THIS IS THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING SOUTH OF YUKON STREET.

THE ALLEY IS NOT IMPROVED.

THAT IS THE ALLEY.

IN IS THE ALLEY LOOKING NORTH FROM SEWARD STREET.

IT APPEARS TO BE USING FOR MATERIALS FOR HOUSES

UNCONSTRUCTION.

THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PARCEL LOOKING SOUTH.

NORTH AND SOUTH LOOKING NORTH ON DR. MARTIN LUTHER

KING, JR. IS NOT TO BE VACATED.

THIS IS, AGAIN, THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING SOUTH AT THE

PORTION OF THE ALLEY LINED 8608 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE,

WHICH IS THE HOUSE HERE.

AND THIS IS LOCATED ON THE ALLEYWAY BEHIND 8608 NORTH

CENTRAL AVENUE AND SHOWING THE PARKING PAD.

CONDITIONS ARE, STAFF HAD NO OBJECTION TO VACATING

BASED ON RESPONSES FROM THE REVIEWING AGENCY.

IF THE VACATING REQUEST APPROVED BY COUNCIL, EASEMENT

RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR WATER, WASTEWATER, TECO,

FRONTIER AND SPECTRUM.

MUST PAY TERMINATION FEES TO TECO FOR STREETLIGHT AND

MUST MEET FEE TOTALS AT PERMITTING RELATED TO CHAPTER

27 WITH REGARD TO TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN.

AND THAT IS THE END OF MY SLIDE SHOW.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM AVAILABLE FOR COMMENT.

11:54:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?

NO?

DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?

ARE YOU MR. QUINONES?

11:55:07 >> YES.

11:55:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COME ON UP.

URN SWORN IN.

YOU RAISED YOUR RIGHT HAND.

SO YOU ARE GOOD.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:55:17 >> YES.

SO --

11:55:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
STATE YOUR NAME.

11:55:25 >> JUAN QUINONES, THE APPLICANT.

WE ARE WANTING TO -- FOR THE SAME REASON OVER AT ROME.

THE ALLEY WE WANT TO VACATE IT AND KEEP IT SIMPLE FOR

OUR PROPERTY AND OUR NEIGHBORS' PROPERTIES.

AND CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE AREA BASICALLY.

THE ALLEYS BEING VACATED THROUGHOUT -- IN THAT SAME

AREA.

11:55:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK

ON THIS ITEM?

YES, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE

MINUTES EACH TO SPEAK.

11:56:03 >> GOOD MORNING.

11:56:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOOD MORNING, PLEASE STATE YOUR

NAME.

11:56:09 >> ALFREDO GUADELUP, AND I AM BACKED UP TO THE

PROPERTY THAT WAS JUST DEVELOPED THERE.

AND MY PROBLEM IS, I WAS TRYING TO GET THAT ALLEY IN

THERE AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY CLEANING IT EVERY TIME

I CALLED.

AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

[ENCODER DROP]

AND HE WAS CHASING THEM AWAY SO THEY WERE COMING AND THEY

WERE KICKING THE FENCE DOWN.

SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ALLEY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT.

AND THESE GENTLEMEN HERE ALSO IN THE SAME POSITION.

11:57:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

11:57:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE THE NEXT SPEAKER

COMES, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADVISE THE NEIGHBORS, THE

PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IN CASE THE ALLEY

IS CLOSED.

THERE WAS SOME FOUR OR FIVE ITEMS CAME UP.

ONE THAT CAUGHT MY EYE WAS TECO FOR CLOSING UP SOME LIGHT

THAT THEY HAVE OR SOMETHING.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW WHAT THE COST IS.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER MEMBER KNOWS WHAT THAT IS.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE CITY, MAKING THE




PRESENTATION, AND IT WAS HERE, FOUR OR FIVE ITEMS, I DIDN'T

HAVE TIME TO MEMORIZE THEM ALL.

HERE IT IS.

TECO.

YOU HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FOR THE WATER, WASTEWATER LINE TO

BE CLEANED, AND THAT'S NATURE.

BUT THE ONE THAT CAUGHT MY EYE WAS TERMINATION FEE TO TECO

FOR STREETLIGHTS, WHATEVER THAT IS.

I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S WHAT I AM ASKING THE CITY, IF SOMEBODY CAN MAKE

PRIORITY, UNLESS THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE POLES HERE.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

AND THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.

I WANT TO KNOW AND YOU ARE GOING TO FIND OUT RIGHT NOW.

11:59:10 >>RON WIGGINTON:
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

AS FAR AS THE STREETLIGHT TERMINATION FEES, THIS IS

CURRENTLY IN OUR ALLEYWAY.

CITY OF TAMPA PAYS FOR THAT CONNECTION AND COST.

HOWEVER, IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE

APPLICANT AND TECO MADE AN ARRANGEMENT TO TERMINATE THAT

SERVICE AND TO PAY FOR THE TERMINATION FEE.

I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE COST OR THE ARRANGEMENT.

11:59:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WANT THE PARTIES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS

HAPPENING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




11:59:35 >>RON WIGGINTON:
INDEED.

11:59:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT SPEAKER.

11:59:38 >> MY NAME IS RALPH KREPPS.

MY WIFE AND I OWN PROPERTY AT 8608 NORTH CENTRAL.

WE RECEIVED A LETTER IN THE MAIL ABOUT THE PROPOSAL TO CLOSE

THE ALLEYWAY.

WE DO HAVE A PARKING SPACE BACK THERE.

SO IF WE TAKE THE ALLEYWAY AWAY, I LOSE THAT PARKING SPACE.

THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE WE HAVE FOR THAT.

11:59:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:00:00 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

12:00:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?

12:00:09 >> WHEN I CALLED THE CITY, IF I HAD KNOWN THAT -- DO YOU

UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING?

THERE'S NO WAY TO FIND THE THING OUT THERE AND THANK YOU

VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

BECAUSE I JUST LEARNED SOMETHING.

AND I DON'T MIND, YOU KNOW, BEING -- I WOULD JUST LIKE TO

GET THAT CLEANED OUT AND SAFETY FOR MY GRANDKIDS.

12:00:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

WE GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT.

SIR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD BEFORE WE CLOSE?




YES?

NO?

IF YOU ARE GOOD, YOU ARE GOOD.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

NO QUESTIONS.

THERE'S NO ONE REGISTERED FOR THIS.

SO I BELIEVE THAT'S IT.

MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN

MIRANDA.

ANY OPPOSED?

ALL RIGHT.

WHO WISHES TO READ ITEM NUMBER 61?

WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO READ 61?

THIS IS TO VACATE THE ALLEY.

12:01:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LET ME READ IT.

ITEM NUMBER 61.

12:01:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
61, 61.

12:01:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES, I'M SORRY.

ITEM NUMBER 61, FILE VAC 22-08.

IT'S AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING

CONSIDERATION.

ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING,

DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING A RIGHT-OF-WAY, ALLEYWAY LOCATED

SOUTH OF YUKON, NORTH OF SEWARD STREET, EAST OF SMALL AVENUE




WEST OF INTERSTATE 275 CENTRAL AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF

IRVITON HEIGHTS, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,

HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN

SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS

AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR ENFORCEMENT AND

PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS,

INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR

SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

12:02:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MEMBER CITRO.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

12:02:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

12:02:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

12:02:25 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

12:02:27 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

12:02:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

12:02:29 >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.

12:02:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

12:02:32 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA VOTING NO.

SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MAY 5, 2022 AT

9:30 A.M.

12:02:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW ITEM NUMBER 63?

MOTION TO WITHDRAW FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND CITRO.

ALL IN FAVOR?




WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.

(CITY COUNCIL IN RECESS).



13:34:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

13:39:32 >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.

13:39:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.

13:39:35 >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.

13:39:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.

13:39:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.

13:39:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.

13:39:41 >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

13:39:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:39:43 >> THANK YOU FOR MOVING UP THE ADMINISTRATOR UPDATE.

REALLY ON BEHALF OF THE ADMINISTRATION I WANT TO COMMEND AND

WELCOME OUR NEW COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK, AND REALLY LOOKING

FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS POINT OF PRIVILEGE ON THAT UPDATE

SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA AND

CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR POSITION AND LOOKING FORWARD TO

SERVING WITH YOU.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

13:40:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 63.




WE DO HAVE TO SWEAR EVERYBODY IN, CORRECT, ON THIS ONE OR

NOT?

13:40:28 >>THE CLERK:
YES.

13:40:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY HERE FOR 63 AND OF 4, PLEASE

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN, IF YOU ARE

GOING TO BE SPEAKING.

OH, MOTION TO OPEN 63 AND 64 BY CITRO, SECOND FROM

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

THE TWO CASES ARE OPEN.

GO AHEAD.

(OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

13:40:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.

YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.

13:40:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE YOU BEGIN,

I BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER 63 WHICH IS

DE-1-22-95.

13:41:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.

13:41:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND 2707 WEST FIG STREET.

COUNCIL, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU RECEIVE AND FILE

ANY EX PARTE WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS PURSUANT TO THE FLORIDA

STATUTE 286.0115 AND IF YOU HAD ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION

VERBALLY, THAT YOU PLEASE DISCLOSE THEM AT THE START OF THE

HEARING.

THAT BEING SAID, MOTION AND SECOND, PLEASE.




TO RECEIVE AND FILE ANY WRITTEN EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS

RELATIVE TO THIS HEARING.

13:41:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY?

MOTION?

COUNCILMAN CITRO, THANK YOU.

ANY OPPOSED?

13:41:48 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

ITEM NUMBER 63 IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW THAT WAS FILED BY

THE PETITIONER JOSEPH GLOGER FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2707

WEST FIG STREET.

THE PETITIONER FILED A REQUEST FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION TO

ALLOW VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE STREET IN LIEU OF ACCESS TO THE

ALLEY IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

STAFF DENIED THE APPLICATION REQUEST ON JANUARY 27th OF

2022.

THE BASIS THAT THE APPLICATION DID NOT MEET THE CODE

SECTIONS WHICH IS 27-241, SUBSECTION 2-C-5 AND ALSO CODE

SECTION 27-60 WHICH IS THE ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION.

I PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED MR. SHELBY A COPY WHICH YOU GUYS WERE

PROVIDED COPIES OF THE RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS, SAMPLE

MOTIONS AND THE RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

THE STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THE PETITION FOR REVIEW IS A

DE NOVO REVIEW ACCORDING TO CODE SECTION 2nd 27-161

SUBSECTION J-2.

THAT CODE SECTION MEANS THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL CAN ACCEPT




NEW EVIDENCE, TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY, AND MAKE YOUR OWN

DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS APPLICATION MEATS THE

CRITERIA ESTABLISHED IN CODE SECTION 27-241 SUBSECTION 2-C-5

AND CODE SECTION 27-60.

STAFF SHOULD BE PRESENT TO PROVIDE THE STAFF ANALYSIS AND

THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE IN THIS CASE, AND THAT STAFF IS

ANDY MIKULSKI.

AFTER CITY COUNCIL HEARS FROM STAFF AND THE PETITIONER FOR

THIS CASE, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE A COUPLE OF ACTIONS.

THOSE ACTIONS ARE TO AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING

ADMINISTRATOR AND VERIFY, DENY THE REQUEST FOR THE DESIGN

EXCEPTION, OR CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE

ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THEREBY GRANT THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.

WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. MIKULSKI WHO WILL BE

SWORN IN IF HE HASN'T ALREADY BEEN SWORN IN.

13:44:02 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME?

13:44:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WERE YOU SWORN IN, SIR?

13:44:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.

I NEED --

13:44:10 >> NO.

I NEED TO BE SWORN IN.

13:44:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

(OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

13:44:15 >> MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN?




OKAY, CAN EVERYONE SEE THE PowerPoint?

13:44:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE CAN SEE YOUR SCREEN BUT NO

PowerPoint YET.

OKAY, WE CAN SEE THE PowerPoint.

IF YOU JUST MAKE IT BIGGER.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

13:44:46 >> JUST A MOMENT, LET ME -- NOW CAN YOU SEE IT FULL SCREEN?

13:44:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, PEST.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

13:44:54 >> ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS DE 1-22-95.

THE APPLICANT IN THE AGENDA IS JOSEPH GLOGER, PROPERTY

ADDRESS 2707 WEST FIG STREET WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.

THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THE STREET IN LIEU OF

ACCESS TO THE ALLEY.

THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN RED.

THIS IS THE STANDARD FOR REVIEW 27-60.

I WILL GO TO THE FINDINGS.

WE FOUND IT INCONSISTENT.

RELEVANT CODE SECTION IS OPEN USE PUBLIC ALLEY, VEHICLE

ACCESS TO THE SITE SHALL BE PROVIDED FROM THE ALLEY AS A

PRIMARY VEHICULAR ACCESS POINT PROVIDED IT MEETS THE MINIMUM

STANDARDS REFERENCE TO 27-383.12.

AND THE FOLLOWING SLIDE IS THE CRITERIA WHY WE DENIED THE

APPLICATION.




THE FIRST IS THAT EXCEPTION EITHER INTERFERES WITH THE

RIGHTS OF OTHERS, OR IS INJURIOUS TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH,

SAFETY AND WELFARE, AND MY COMMENTS ARE IN ITALICS, SO I

KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY BEEN MADE AWARE RECENTLY OF THE

NEW DRIVEWAYS IN WEST TAMPA, AND IT'S NOT A TREND THAT'S

CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVAILING HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT PATTERN,

AND IT'S NOT IDEAL FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AS IT INCREASE IT

IS NUMBER AND SIZE OF CONFLICT POINTS ON SIDEWALKS, AND IT

ALSO INTERFERES WITH ON-STREET PARKING OPPORTUNITIES, AS YOU

HAVE THE DRIVEWAYS ESPECIALLY DOUBLE CAR WIDTH DRIVEWAYS

EATING UP A LOT OF THAT CURB SPATES THAT ELIMINATES THE

OPPORTUNITY FOR ON-STREET PARKING.

THE SECOND ITEM, THE EXCEPTION MINIMUM POSSIBLE, THE ALLEY

IS PAVED AND USABLE, AND THERE IS NOTHING UNIQUE ABOUT IT

THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO APPROVE THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.

NUMBER 3 IS THE APPROVAL EXCEPTION OF STANDARDS, APPROVAL TO

ENSURE THE JUDGMENT DOES NOT GUARANTEE SPECIAL PRIVILEGES.

SO THE BUILDING PERMIT WHICH HAVE BEEN APPLIED FOR SINCE THE

WEST TAMPA CODE, ALLEYWAY CODE WAS CHANGED, TAMPA HAD

COMPLIED WITH THE ALLEY REQUIREMENTS.

AND I WILL GO INTO THAT IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

THERE ARE SOME BUILDING PERMITS THAT WE DID APPROVE, DID NOT

USE THE ALLEY BECAUSE THOSE ARE DETERMINED TO BE NONUSABLE.

CITY COUNCIL HAS OVERTURNED A COUPLE -- ONE OF THESE IN THE

PAST, AND SOME OF THESE WERE ALSO EXISTING PERMIT




APPLICATIONS THAT WERE AND BEFORE THE CODE WAS CHANGED SO

HAD TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE OLD DESIGN.

AND FINAL ITEM, THE EXCEPTION IS THE CONSISTENT WITH ANY

APPLICABLE SPECIFIC PLANS.

AGAIN, THE OVERLAY IS TO ENSURE THAT ALL TYPES OF NEW

DEVELOPMENTS AND MAJOR RENOVATIONS ARE AVAILABLE WITH THE

BUILDING AND STRUCTURAL ORIENTATION DESIGN ELEMENTS, LOT

DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND OTHER SPECIAL RELATIONSHIPS

WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA AREA.

SO PROMINENT FORWARD FACING GARAGES ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH

THE HISTORIC PATTERN OF WEST TAMPA WHICH IS THE CODE CHANGE

BEGAN WITH.

HERE IS THE PERMITS THAT WERE APPLIED FOR IN WEST TAMPA FROM

ABOUT THE TIME THE CODE WAS CHANGED, THE ALLEYWAY CODE

REQUIREMENT.

THIS IS ABOUT FEBRUARY OF 2021.

SO THESE ARE THE PERMITS FROM 2021, FEBRUARY 2021 TO

DECEMBER 2021.

SO THERE HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE 43, THERE HAVE BEEN 19 THAT

HAVE MET THE ALLEYWAY REQUIREMENTS.

AND I WILL GO TO SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE.

HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.

2707 WEST FIG.

THE ALLEYWAY IS IN THE REAR BEHIND THAT WOODEN FENCE.

SO THE ALLEY IS -- THERE IS AN ALLEYWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY SOME 14




TO 15 FEET, RIGHT-OF-WAY, PAVEMENT IS ABOUT 9 FEET WIDE BUT

IN AREAS IT'S -- AS FAR AS ALLEYS IN TAMPA GO, THIS IS

ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD.

SO HERE IS THE ENTRANCE OF THE ALLEY ON THE WEST.

AND THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT -- I APOLOGIZE.

THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT IS THE ENTRANCE OF THE ALLEY.

PHOTO ON RIGHT IS ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN.

AND THEN THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT OF THIS SCREEN IS THE

EASTERN EDGE OF THE ALLEY LOOKING BACK TO THE WEST.

AND THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT, THIS IS A NEWER HOME THAT WAS

APPROVED, AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THAT NOTCH CUT OUT ON THE

FENCE ON THE LEFT WHERE THERE IS REQUIRED VISITOR SPOT, SO

THIS IS A NEW BUILDING, AND IN ORDER TO MEET THE

REQUIREMENTS THEY PROPOSED USING THE ALLEY FOR VEHICLE

ACCESS.

AND I WILL SHOW YOU THAT HERE.

THAT'S 2704 WEST GRAY WHICH IS IN YELLOW TO THE RIGHT OF THE

SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND HERE IS A BUILDING PLAN, AND YOU CAN SEE GUEST PARKING

IS BEING MET ON THE ALLEY.

THIS WAS AGAIN BEFORE THEY WERE REQUIRED TO USE THE ALLEY

FOR VEHICLE ACCESS.

HOWEVER, SO THEY THE DRIVEWAYS UP FRONT, THEY DETERMINED IN

THIS CASE THAT THE ALLEY MET -- THEY WERE ABLE TO USE TO THE

MEET THEIR -- TO MEET THEIR VEHICLE SPOT, GUEST-REQUIRED




SPOT.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

13:50:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, THE APPLICANT.

13:50:48 >> I WILL STOP SHARING MY SCREEN AT THIS MOMENT.

13:50:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE APPLICANT HAS 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT.

AND THEN WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER.

13:50:58 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE IN 2017.

13:51:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

13:51:04 >> JOSEPH GLOGER.

I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE IN 2017, HAD A DRIVEWAY, I HAD A

CARPORT, AND I HAD EVERY INTENTION TO TEAR THIS HOUSE DOWN

TO BUILD A NEW -- A TINY TWO-ONE.

THIS NEW RULE CHANGE HAPPENED FEBRUARY OF 2021 WITH ZERO

NOTICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

I GOT NO LETTER THAT THIS WAS EVEN HAPPENING.

BUT FOR ME TO DO A DESIGN EXCEPTION, I HAVE TO GO TO THE

PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE, SEND OUT ALL THESE CERTIFIED

LETTERS, THAT I HAVE TO SIGN, BUT I GOT NO NOTICE THAT THIS

WAS HAPPENING.




I HAD THE HORSE TORN DOWN, AND NOW AN EMPTY LOT WITH NO

HOUSE ON IT, AND THIS LOT IS ONLY 70 FEET DEEP.

A GARAGE IS TYPICALLY 22 FEET.

I NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A BACKYARD?

I WILL BE THE ONLY PERSON ON THIS ALLEY THAT HAS TO USE IT.

EVERY SINGLE HOUSE -- EVERY SINGLE HOUSE, 2701, GARAGE

DRIVEWAY.

DRIVEWAY.

THIS IS THE NEW HOUSE RIGHT NEXT TO MY LOT.

GARAGE AND DRIVEWAY.

DRIVEWAY.

DRIVEWAY.

HOUSES ON GRAY.

GARAGE AND DRIVEWAY.

GARAGE AND DRIVEWAY.

GARAGE AND DRIVEWAY.

GARAGE AND DRIVEWAY.

AND THEN THESE ARE FOUR TOWNHOMES BUILT ON GRAY.

GARAGES.

I WILL BE THE ONLY HOUSE THAT HAS TO DRIVE DOWN AND MAINTAIN

THE WHOLE ALLEY.

HE SAID IT'S A DRIVABLE ALLEY.

I HAVE MEASURED AT 9 FEET IN SOME SPOTS.

MY TRUCK IS 8 FEET WIDE.

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO MAKE A 90º TURN TO A GARAGE?




THEY SAY THAT'S PAVED.

YEAH, PAVED 40 YEARS AGO THAT NOW IT'S NOT REALLY DRIVABLE.

CAN YOU DRIVE ON IT?

YEAH, BUT YOU HAVE NO ROOM.

SOMEONE DUMPS SOMETHING DOWN THE ALLEY, WHICH IS CONSTANT,

THERE'S DEBRIS EVERYWHERE, SO NOW I HAVE TO GET OUT OF MY

CAR TO MOVE THIS DEBRIS AND WHERE DO I PUT IT?

I'M A FIREFIGHTER.

I AM GONE 24-48 HOURS AT A TIME.

I DO NOT FEEL SAFE WITH MY WIFE WITH ONLY TWO MEANS OF

EGRESS.

ONE OF THEM CAN BE BLOCKED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DUMPING

MATTRESSES.

THAT WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

YEAH, IT'S JUST A TINY CHAIR, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A BIG

VEHICLE, HOW DO YOU HAVE ROOM TO GET OUT OF YOUR CAR TO MOVE

THAT CHAIR?

MY WIFE GOES TO WORK AT SIX IN THE MORNING, PITCH BLACK.

WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR DRIVING DOWN THAT ALLEY

EARLY IN THE MORNING?

I TALKED TO ONE NEIGHBOR.

HE SAID TWO BLOCKS BACK PEOPLE SENT UP A TENT CAMP IN THE

ALLEY.

I HAVE GOT TO WORRY ABOUT THAT NOW WHEN I AM GONE FOR 24-48

HOURS?




THIS IS SUPPOSED TO HELP WITH PARKING ON THE STREET.

GIVEN THE ONLY TWO SPOTS IT'S A 4 TO 5 BEDROOM HOUSE, WHEN

MY DAUGHTER GETS OLDER, WHERE IS HER CAR GOING TO GO?

WITH ONLY TWO SPOTS SHE'S GOING TO BE PARKING ON THE STREET.

WHEN I HAVE FAMILY, MY WIFE'S MOM IS ABOUT TO RETIRE, LIVES

IN ST. LOUIS, AND SPENDING MONTHS DOWN HERE AT A TIME,

BECAUSE WE JUST HAD A BABY.

WHERE IS SHE GOING TO PARK?

HAS TO PARK ON THE STREET.

MY TRUCK HAS TO GO ON THE STREET.

THIS IS GOING TO ADD MORE CLUTTER ON THE STREET.

I THINK ONLY ONE HOUSE HAS A PIECE OF SIDEWALK.

THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.

SO THERE WOULD BE NO SIDEWALK I'M BLOCKING.

I THINK TO PUT A SIDEWALK AND WON'T BE BLOCKED.

IT'S A HUGE SAFETY CONCERN KNOWING THAT MY WIFE WOULD HAVE

TO GET HER GROCERIES OUT IN THIS ALLEY, WALK TO THE FRONT OF

THE HOUSE.

I MEAN, I AM AT FIRE STATION 3 AT KENNEDY AND WILL O.I HAVE

SEEN SOME CRAZY THINGS HAPPEN IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND I DON'T WANT MY WIFE TO HAVE TO DRIVE DOWN AND USE THE

ALLEY.

I MEAN, I JUST THINK THAT HAVING TWO MEANS OF EGRESS IS JUST

ASININE.

AND PEOPLE CLAIM THAT FIRE, POLICE USE THESE ALLEYS.




I HAVE GOT 9 FEET.

EVEN IT IS 10 TO IS THE 12, FIRE TRUCKS CAN'T GET DOWN

THERE.

BULANCES CAN'T GET DOWN THERE.

WE NEED THE FRONT ACCESS TO OUR HOME.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

13:56:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

HEARING NONE, WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED PERSON FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT.

IF SANDY SANCHEZ, I BELIEVE, YES, SANDY SANCHEZ IS ON,

PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND ACTIVATE YOUR CAMERA SO WE CAN

SEE YOUR FACE.

13:56:38 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

13:56:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.

CAN YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA ON?

13:56:50 >> MY CAMERA IS SHOWING ME.

13:56:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S CHANGE THE SCREENS HERE.

YES, MA'AM.

13:56:55 >> OKAY?

13:56:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN ONCE YOUR

CAMERA COMES ON.

IS IT ON?

13:57:04 >> CAN YOU SEE ME NOW?

13:57:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, WE CAN.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAPPENED AND WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR




YOU IN.

(OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

13:57:19 >> I DO.

13:57:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

13:57:26 >> MY NAME IS SANDY SANCHEZ, I LIVE AT 2750 FIG STREET RIGHT

NEXT DOOR.

BUT BEFORE I BEGIN, CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO AND COUNCIL MEMBERS,

I WAS NOT SCHEDULED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM UNTIL THE LAST

MINUTE.

MR. CARLSON HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY TO REWORK SOME OF

THE SEMANTICS AND FIX THE OVERLAY, WAS CALLED OUT ON A

PERSONAL EMERGENCY, SO I WOULD REQUEST AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE,

IF I NEED IT, PLEASE.

13:57:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR?

GO AHEAD.

13:58:05 >> AGAIN MY NAME IS SANDY SANCHEZ, THE PRESIDENT OF THE

ARMWOOD GARDENS CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE

COMMITTEE OF THE WEST TAMPA CRA CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE,

AND WORKING ON THE EXISTING WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.

FIRST LET ME EXPLAIN THAT IN APRIL 2021, I PERSONALLY SPOKE

TO THE APPLICANT AND EXPLAINED THE CHANGES IN THE WEST TAMPA

OVERLAY.




I KNEW HE WAS GETTING READY TO TEAR DOWN THIS HOUSE, SO I

WANTED TO MAKE HIM AWARE OF THE GUIDELINES BEFORE HE

SUBMITTED HIS PLANS.

SO LET ME MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR.

THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE CHANGES TO THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY

WERE TO MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER FOR ALL USERS, ESPECIALLY OUR

VULNERABLE POPULATION, ELDERLY, HANDICAPPED, ET CETERA.

SAFETY BETWEEN THE PEDESTRIANS AND THE VEHICLES.

CARS PARK ON THE STREET.

PEDESTRIANS AND WHEELCHAIR USERS IN THE STREET WERE PRONE TO

BE HIT BY A CAR DRIVING BY.

THE MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY

HAVE NO SIDEWALKS.

THE CHANGES, THE WEST TAMPA CRA AND CITIZENS ADVISORY

COMMITTEE, ARE CONTINUALLY WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF TO

EXPAND THE LANGUAGE AND PROVIDE OTHER SOLUTIONS SINCE WE

REALIZED ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION IS NOT PRACTICAL.

WE ARE LOOKING AT ALLEY WIDTHS, CONDITIONS, DRAINAGE

REQUIREMENT, IMPROVEMENTS OF ALLEY REQUIREMENTS, THESE

FACTORS AFFECT THE ABILITY FOR A VEHICLE TO USE THEM.

I HAVE LIVED NEXT DOOR TO THE APPLICANT.

THEY HAVE AN ALLEY THAT IS WIDE ENOUGH, CLEAR ENOUGH,

ALREADY IMPROVED, AND IS KEPT CLEAN BY MYSELF.

I PAY TO HAVE THAT ALLEY CLEANED ABOUT EVERY SIX WEEKS.

THE LOCATION IS A PRIME EXAMPLE WHEREOF WE SHOULD HAVE




ALLEYS ACCESS.

MR. MIKULSKI'S URBAN PLANNING REPORT, THE ALLEYWAY IS USABLE

AND THERE IS NO RESTRAINT OF USING THE ALLEY.

UNQUOTE.

THERE ARE OTHER NEW HOUSES ON THE BLOCK OF FIG STREET RIGHT

ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.

THERE ARE THREE TOWNHOMES BEING BUILT ACROSS THE STREET.

BEFORE THEY BEGAN TO BUILD, THEY REVISED THE PLANS TO MEET

THE OVERLAY AND PROVIDE ALLEY ACCESS FOR ALL THREE

TOWNHOMES.

AT 2701 WEST FIG, WHICH IS TO THE EAST OF US, THE PROPERTY

DIRECTLY TO THE EAST HAS RECENTLY BEEN MURDER AND THE

ORIGINAL HOME HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED AND THE LOTS HAVE BEEN

SPLIT.

THEY WERE ALSO REQUIRED IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY TO PROVIDE

ALLEY ACCESS TO PARKING AS AGAIN THIS ALLEY IS WIDE ENOUGH,

CLEAR ENOUGH, AND ALREADY IMPROVED FOR VEHICLE USE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PETITIONER WILL NOT BE THE ONLY ONE ON

THE BLOCK WITH ALLEY ACCESS.

THERE ARE SIX NEW HOMES AT DIFFERENT STAGES OF CONSTRUCTION

ON THIS BLOCK, ALL WITH EASY ACCESS TO ALLEYS THAT FALL

WITHIN THE CRITERIA OF THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.

REMEMBER, ORIGINALLY ALL THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY, WE ASK THAT

YOU CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE OVERLAY AND VOTE AGAINST THIS

DESIGN EXCEPTION.




AND AS I QUOTE AGAIN FROM URBAN PLANNING, THE EXISTING ALLEY

IS PAVED, USABLE AND THERE IS NO UNIQUE SITE CONSTRAINT

PREVENTING THE USE OF THE ALLEY.

PLEASE VOTE TO KEEP THE EXISTING RULING INTACT AND DENY THIS

EXCEPTION.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

14:01:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC?

THAT WAS THE ONLY REGISTERED PUBLIC COMMENT, INDIVIDUAL.

ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC?

14:01:51 >> DO I GET TO TALK?

14:01:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL AT THIS

TIME?

IF NOT, IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENT.

NO?

YOU DO HAVE FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.

14:02:03 >> SO THAT'S SANDY'S HOME. IN 2018 SHE GOT A DESIGN

EXCEPTION, ZERO PROPERTY LINE CARPORT THAT SHE SAID SHE

WANTED IN HER LETTER TO THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO PARK IN THE

DRIVEWAY AND THE CARPORT SO SHE CAN WALK TO HER FRONT DOOR.

NOW SHE'S SAYING I HAVE TO USE THE ALLEY?

I JUST SHOWED YOU ALL THE HOUSES THAT ARE ALREADY ON, THEY

ALL HAVE GARAGES.

AND THE LETTERS SENT BY RAMIREZ, I DROVE BY IT TODAY.




HE HAS A DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT.

DOESN'T USE THE ALLEY.

SO THESE PEOPLE ARE ARGUING THAT EVERYBODY, OTHER PEOPLE

HAVE TO USE THE ALLEY, BUT THEY DON'T.

THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM.

AND THIS WAS VOTED IN FEBRUARY BUT NO ONE KNEW THAT THAT WAS

GOING TO HAPPEN.

I TALKED TO SOME BUILDERS AND THEY SAID THEY WERE

BLIND-SIDED BY THIS.

I WAS BLIND-SIDED BY THIS.

I TORE MY HOUSE DOWN.

I CAN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE.

THE PROPERTIES ARE SO EXPENSIVE RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T AFFORD TO

GO BY ANOTHER LOT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I GOT LUCKY ENOUGH THAT I BOUGHT THIS IN 2017 BEFORE THIS

MARKET BLEW UP.

AND RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, I MEAN, I CAN'T GO ANYWHERE

ELSE, AND IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO HAVE A GARAGE ON THAT TINY

LOT WITH THAT ON THE ALLEY, AND A TINY LITTLE ALLEY.

I MEAN, WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE, HOW CAN THEY MAKE YOU USE THE

ALLEY?

BEFORE YOU COULD CHOOSE TO USE THE ALLEY OR NOT.

THAT'S THE PERFECT SET-UP.

WHY FORCE PEOPLE TO HAVE TO USE AN ALLEY?

I MEAN, THIS IS FINANCIALLY KILLING ME BECAUSE I HAVE




ORDERED WINDOWS BACK IN OCTOBER THINKING THAT I WAS GOING TO

HAVE THIS HOUSE NINE MONTHS OUT.

$22,000 OF WINDOWS THAT JUST GOT HERE.

NOW WHERE DO THEY GO?

THEY ARE GOING TO SAY I CAN'T USE THIS HOUSE, THESE WINDOWS

FOR A HOUSE THAT I CAN'T BUILD.

SO THIS HAS CAUSED MY FAMILY SOME SERIOUS HEARTACHE, AND

THIS IS LIFE CHANGING FOR ME.

I AM NOT SOME FAST BUILDER TRYING TO COME IN AND CHANGE THE

RULE.

I WAS IN THIS HOUSE BEFORE THE RULE CHANGE.

I HAD FRONT PORCH AND A DRIVEWAY.

I SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE FRONT ACCESS.

AND THEY SAID KEEP CARS OFF THE STREET.

THIS PUTS MOWER CARS ON THE STREET.

WHEN YOU -- THESE HOUSES HAVE FOUR TO FIVE BEDROOMS.

THAT'S FOUR TO FIVE PEOPLE, SIX PEOPLE THAT CAN DRIVE A CAR.

WHERE DO THEIR CARS GO?

THERE'S NO DRIVEWAY.

ONLY A TWO CAR GARAGE.

THE CARS ARE IN THE STREET.

NOW THE CARS ARE GOING DO OVERRUN WITH ALL THE PARKING ON

THE STREETS.

THAT'S MY REBUTTAL.

14:05:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




I WILL JUST SAY REAL QUICK, BECAUSE YOU BOUGHT YOUR HOUSE IN

2017 AND IT HAD A CARPORT AND A DRIVEWAY, AND EVERYTHING

THAT YOU ARGUED REGARDING THE WIDTH OF THE ALLEY, YOU DRIVE

A TRUCK, YOU KNOW, YOUR WIFE, EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID, AND

THAT'S BESIDES THE POINT, BUT I MEAN I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHER

COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL, AND WE WILL GO TO EVERYBODY, BUT I AM

IN SUPPORT OF OVERTURNING THE DENIAL.

YOU HAVE ALREADY PROVEN YOUR POINT.

AND I CAN SENSE YOUR FRUSTRATION, AND THE HOUSING MARKET IS

RIDICULOUS.

I CAN'T SAY SELL THE LOT AND BUY SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE WHAT

IS A LOT IF YOU CAN FIND A LOT, WHAT IS IT GOING TO COST?

14:05:48 >> THAT'S WHAT SANDY TOLD ME Y.DON'T YOU GO BUY SOMEWHERE

ELSE?

NO, I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE NOW.

14:05:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MORE IMPORTANTLY IS YOU BOUGHT THE

HOUSE IN 2017, BEFORE THESE CHANGES WERE IMPLEMENTED AND

THAT HOUSE HAD A CARPORT AND A DRIVEWAY.

SO I UNDERSTAND, WE CHANGE THE RULES AND WHATNOT.

BUT WE SHOULD MAKE AN EXCEPTION HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN

INVESTED FIVE YEARS AND YOU ARE WAITING.

YOU KNOW, I GET IT.

SO ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS OR

QUESTIONS?

WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN MOVING.




SO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM CITRO,

SECOND FROM GUDES.

ALL IN FAVOR?

WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?

14:06:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WILL, IF YOU DO NOT MIND.

AND ITEM NUMBER 63, DE 1-22-95, I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE

ZONING ADMINISTRATION'S DENIAL FOR DESIGN EXCEPTION ON THIS

CASE.

THE PETITIONER HAS PRESENTED THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE

HOUSING ON THE STREET HAVE A PARKING AND GARAGE AT THE

ENTRANCE, IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTIES, AND THE IRREGULAR LOT

DESIGN IS AN INCONVENIENCE TO PROPERTY OWNER FOR PARKING IN

THE REAR.

14:07:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

YES, SIR?

14:07:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FOR THE PURPOSES, IF YOU CAN STATE THE

SECTIONS RELATIVE --

14:07:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OH, I'M SORRY, 27-60 AND 27-241-2-POINT C

.5.

14:07:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOUR MOTION TO OVERTURN, DOES THAT MEAN

THOSE STANDARDS SHOULD BE WAIVED?

14:07:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

YES, PLEASE.

14:07:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OKAY.

ON THE BASIS OF THE FACTS AS THEY HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO




YOU?

14:07:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, SIR.

14:07:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

14:07:58 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.

14:08:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.

YOU ARE GOOD TO GO.

14:08:04 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:08:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 64.

14:08:07 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
MAY WE HAVE JUST ONE MOMENT?

14:08:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

14:08:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN JUST WITH REGARD TO THIS CASE

WHICH IS E 1-22-050 AT 2423 WEST STATE STREET, A MOTION TO

RECEIVE AND FILE WRITTEN COMMENTS, ANYTHING, VERBALLY

COMMUNICATED PLEASE DO SO NOW.

14:08:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY?

NO.

MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA, SECONDED BY CITRO.

YES, MA'AM.

14:09:02 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I'M HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 64, FOR PETITION FOR REVIEW THAT WAS

FILED FOR DE 1-22-50 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2423 WEST

STATE STREET.




THE PETITIONER FOR THIS CASE WILL BE REPRESENTING THE

PETITIONER IS BRYANT DUNIVAN.

THE PROPERTY OWNER REQUESTED A DESIGN EXCEPTION TO ALLOW

VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE STREETS IN LIEU OF ACCESS TO THE ALLEY

IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, AND TO HAVE FLOOR HEIGHT LESS

THAN 24 FEET -- 24 INCHES AS REQUIRED BY THE CODE.

STAFF DENIED THE REQUEST FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION ON JANUARY

23rd OF 2022.

ON THE BASIS THAT THE APPLICATION DID NOT MEET THE CODE

CRITERIAS IN SECTION 27-241 SUBSECTION 2 C 5 AND C 7,

ADDITIONALLY CODE SECTION 27-60.

AS I EARLY PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED CITY COUNCIL THE RELEVANT

CODE SECTIONS, THE SAMPLE MOTION AND THE RULES OF PROCEDURE

RELEVANT TO THIS CASE.

THE STATEMENT OF REVIEW IS GUIDED BY CITY OF TAMPA CODE

SECTION 27-61 SUBSECTION J-2 WHICH STATES THAT CITY COUNCIL

CAN ACCEPT NEW EVIDENCE, TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY, AND AFTER

HEARING ALL THE EVIDENCE, CITY COUNCIL ON ITS OWN CAN

DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICATION MEETS THE

REQUIREMENTS OF 27-241 SUBSECTION C-2-5 AND C-7 AND ALSO

27-60.

AFTER HEARING FROM STAFF, MR. ANDY MIKULSKI REGARDING THE

DECISION OF THE STAFF BEFORE THIS APPLICATION AND THE

OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATION, CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE

DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THEREBY DENY THE




REQUEST FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION, OR CITY COUNCIL CAN

OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND

THEREBY GRANT THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.

WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. MIKULSKI.

14:11:22 >> ANDY MIKULSKI, URBAN DESIGN COORDINATOR.

MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN?

14:11:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.

MAKE IT BIGGER.

14:11:37 >>> CAN YOU SEE THE FULL SCREEN NOW?

14:11:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.

GO AHEAD.

14:11:44 >> IT'S DE-22-50, 2423 WEST STATE STREET, IN THE OVERLAY,

AND REQUESTING ALLOWING VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE STREET IN LIEU

OF THE ALLEY AND THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST TO WAIVE THE

REQUIRED FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION OF 24 INCHES ABOVE

SURROUNDING GRADE, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE WEST TAMPA

OVERLAY.

SO SUBJECT PROPERTY IN RED.

IT'S ONE BLOCK EAST OF TAMPANIA.

AGAIN THE STANDARDS OF REVIEW.

I WON'T GO OVER THESE.

AND OUR FINDINGS.

IT'S INCONSISTENT BASED ON USE OF PUBLIC ALLEY, VEHICLE SASS

TO THE SITE SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE ALLEYS AS A PRIMARY

VEHICULAR ACCESS POINT.




AND ALSO INCONSISTENT WITH THE SECOND REQUEST OF THE FLOOR

HEIGHT, WHICH IS THE INTENT OF REQUIRING ELEVATED FINISH

FLOOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO ENCOURAGE COMPATIBLE DESIGN

WITH THE HISTORIC HOUSING STYLES WHICH ARE CHARACTERISTIC OF

THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY.

THE FINISHED FLOORING OF SINGLE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI

DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND MULTI-FAMILY

RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES SHALL BE A MINIMUM OF 24 INCHES ABOVE

THE FINISHED GRADE MEASURED ALONG ALL SIDES OF THE

STRUCTURE.

BOTH REQUESTS WERE DENIED BY STAFF AS THE ALLEYWAY WAS

DETERMINED TO BE OPEN AND USED AND THERE WAS NO COMPELLING

SITE CONDITION TO REDUCE THE REQUIREMENT OF THE 24-INCH

FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION.

AGAIN, THE FINDINGS, NEW DRIVEWAYS AND DOUBLE CAR DRIVEWAYS

IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND INCREASES NUMBER

OF CONFLICT POINTS ON SIDEWALKS, AND TO BE BUILT SIDEWALKS,

AND YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A LACK OF SIDEWALKS THROUGHOUT

THE CITY, ESPECIALLY WEST TAMPA.

EXPECT WITH THE RECENT SIDEWALK CHANGES THAT WE ARE GOING TO

BE BUILDING A LOT MORE SIDEWALKS.

SO AGAIN, IT'S TO ALSO PRESERVE THE ON-STREET OPPORTUNITIES

FOR ON-STREET PARKING.

AND POINT NUMBER 4, THE EXCEPTION IS MINIMUM AS POSSIBLE,

THE EXISTING ALLEY IS PAVED AND USABLE TO PREVENT COMPLIANCE




WITH THE CODE SECTION AND THERE'S ALSO TOPOGRAPHY ISSUES

PREVENTING THE REQUIRED 24-INCH FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION.

POINT NUMBER 5, AGAIN THIS IS THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS CASE,

19 OF THE 43 BUILDING PERMIT COMPLIED WITH THE NEW CODE

REQUIREMENT FOR THE ALLEY, TO REQUIRE ALLEY ACCESS.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYONE REQUEST TO WAIVE THAT 24-INCH FINISHED

FLOOR ELEVATION, SO THAT'S -- THERE'S NOTHING TO COMPARE IT

TO.

AND THE LAST POINT IS THAT THE EXCEPTION IS CONSISTENT WITH

ANY APPLICABLE SPECIFIC PLANS.

WE HAVE THE PURPOSE OF THE OVERLAY TO ENSURE THAT NEW

DEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING -- THE HISTORIC

PATTERN OF WEST TAMPA.

AND FACING GARAGES ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH PATTERN AND SLAB

ON GRADE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE HISTORIC

PATTERN OF WEST TAMPA.

14:15:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MY QUESTION -- AND MARTY, TELL ME IF I AM

OFF -- MR. MANISCALCO, QUESTION.

TO ASK FOR THE OVERLAY IN WEST TAMPA TO BE REVIEWED.

I CORRECT?

14:15:34 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

ABBYE FEELEY CAME BEFORE YOU AND GAVE A PRESENTATION, I

BELIEVE A WORKSHOP, I DON'T RECALL THE DATE, BUT MS. FEELEY

DID COME BEFORE YOU TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT.




14:15:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
AND THEN WORKING ON THIS PARTICULAR

SITUATION IN WEST TAMPA, CORRECT?

14:15:54 >> YES.

14:15:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WHY ARE THESE CASES GOING --

14:16:03 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
BECAUSE THE RULE HAS NOT BEEN

CHANGED.

14:16:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I GOT MY ANSWER.

THANK YOU.

14:16:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD, SIR.

14:16:09 >> AGAIN, SAME AS THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, 19 OF THE 43 NEW

BUILTS HAVE COMPLIED WITH ALLEY ACCESS, AND NOW I WILL RUN

THROUGH PHOTOS OF THE SITE.

2423 WEST STATE STREET.

HERE IS THE ALLEY.

AGAIN IT'S ABOUT A 14 -- ALLEYWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY IS 14 FEET,

PAVEMENT IS ABOUT 9, BUT THE PAVEMENT IS IN MUCH BETTER

CONDITION THAN THE PREVIOUS ALLEY.

THE FENCE, IT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

THE FENCE LEANING INTO THE ALLEYWAY, THAT'S BEHIND THE

SUBJECT PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S BEING REMOVED WHEN THEY START CONSTRUCTION.

AND THAT IS IT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

14:16:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

HEARING NONE, WE WILL GO TO THE APPLICANT.




YOU HAVE 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT, SIR.

THEN WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

14:17:02 >> CAN COUNCIL SEE MY SCREEN?

14:17:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

14:17:20 >> BASICALLY, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE SIMILAR ISSUES AS THE

LAST APPLICATION.

14:17:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
STATE YOUR NAME.

14:17:27 >> BRYANT DUNIVAN, ADDRESS 301 WEST PLATT STREET, TAMPA,

FLORIDA 33606.

I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT AT THE TIME OF THIS APPLICATION IT

WAS MAESTRA INCORPORATED AND NOW IS SANDRA SANCHEZ, 2423

STATE STREET.

YOU CAN SEE THE DESIGN.

THE PROPOSED DESIGN.

MRS. SANCHEZ HAS BEEN EAGERLY AWAITING CONSTRUCTION ABSENT

THIS ISSUE.

PRIOR TO GETTING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, THE 24-INCH DESIGN

EXCEPTION HAS BEEN ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS DRAWN BY THE

APPLICANT.

WE ARE NOT PURSUING THAT.

THIS IS SOLELY ON THE ALLEYWAY ISSUE.

AND THE REASON FOR THE ALLEYWAY ISSUE THAT WE TAKE ISSUE

WITH IS THE FACT THAT -- I'M SORRY -- IS THE FACT THAT THIS

ALLEY ACCESS PROVISION IS TOO BROAD.

CITY COUNCIL HAS DEALT WITH THIS ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS.




AS FAR BACK AS OCTOBER, COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA CITED THE NEED

FOR THIS HISTORIC USE.

THE HISTORIC USE OF ALLEYS IS THE SURFACE.

MR. MIRANDA WENT TO GREAT DISCUSSION ABOUT FOR TRASH CANS.

IT WASN'T EVER PROPOSED TO HAVE MAIN ACCESS TO A LOT GO

THROUGH THE ALLEYS.

THIS LOT IN QUESTION AS WE ARE LOOKING AT 27-241-C-2-5 IF AN

EXISTING LOT IS ADJACENT TO AN OPEN USE ALLEY PARTICULAR

ACCESS TO THE SITE SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE ALLEY AS PRIMARY

VEHICULAR ACCESS POINT.

IT'S OUR CONTENTION THAT THIS ALLEYWAY IS NOT OPEN AND USED

IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH THE BUILDING PLAN.

IN LOOKING AT THE OVERLAY AREA, AND I HAVE GOT A NUMBER OF

AERIALS, HOPEFULLY THIS IS CLEAR ENOUGH.

I TRIED TO MAKE IT AS BIG AS I CAN.

YOU WILL SEE A BIG RED PLACARD, 2423 WEST STATE STREET.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT 25, 2119, ENTIRE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD,

ALL USES STATE STREET OR CYPRESS STREET AS THE PRIMARY

VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.

IN FACT IN LOOKING AT THE -- THROUGH THE ALLEY, YOU SEE

NUMBER OF FENCES.

THIS ALLEY IS ON PLATT.

WE HAVE GOT PHOTOGRAPHS, AND IT WOULD BE HARD FOR COUNCIL TO

MAKE OUT.

YOU SHOULD SEE A TAPE MEASURE THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS




ALLEYWAY.

THE APPLICANTS HAVE ACTUALLY MEASURED APPORTION OF THE

ALLEY.

THIS MEASUREMENT WAS 7 FEET 1 INCH.

THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THE 9-FOOT THRESHOLD.

THIS IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PARCEL.

UNDERSTANDING WHAT MRS. SANCHEZ WILL HAVE TO DO WHEN SHE

PULLS INTO HER LOT, SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO -- IF COUNCIL UP

HOLD THIS AND DOES NOT GRANT IT, OVERTURN THE DESIGN

FINDING, SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A 90-DEGREE TURN

THROUGH ESSENTIALLY A 7-FOOT ALLEY TO GET ACCESS TO THIS

PROPERTY.

AND ONCE SHE HAS TO LEAVE SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BACK UP TO

THAT SAME ALLEYWAY AND TRY TO MAKE IT OUT WITHOUT DAMAGING

HER NEIGHBOR'S FENCE OR DAMAGING HER VEHICLE OR TEARING UP

THE LAWN. IN LOOKING JUST AT USE OF THIS AREA,

HISTORICALLY, THE CURRENT CODE REQUIRES A DESIGN EXCEPTION

JUST ON THE BASIS THAT A 7-FOOT AREA CANNOT PULL IN FOR A

DRIVEWAY AT THAT POINT.

A HONDA CIVIC, FOR EXAMPLE, STILL THAT TURN IS DIFFICULT TO

MAKE.

AS WE GO BACK TO THE ALLEYWAY, AND IT MUST MEET THE MINIMUM

STANDARDS REFERENCED IN 27-283.92.

WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT WHAT THAT REQUIRES, AND FOR THIS,

BECAUSE IT'S A 90-DEGREE TURN, HAS TO FIT THAT PARKING




REQUIREMENT, YOU ARE DEALING WITH -- I WILL TRY TO SHARE

THIS ON THE ELMO.

THIS IS THE OFF-STREET PARKING STANDARD.

BECAUSE IT'S A 90-DEGREE TURN THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN AISLE

WIDTH OF 24 FEET.

YOU DON'T HAVE THAT WIDTH WITHIN THE ALLEY.

JUST BASED ON THE ALLEY REQUIREMENT, IT DOESN'T MEET THE

MINIMUM STANDARDS AS REQUIRED BY ITS OWN CODE.

SO BECAUSE OF THAT IT'S WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THE DESIGN

EXCEPTION.

NOW, WE HAVE GONE -- AND THESE IMAGES ARE ALL FROM GOOGLE

EARTH.

WE ALSO PULLED THE STREET IMAGES.

THIS BUILDING WITH THE WHITE FRONTAGE, THAT'S THE SUBJECT.

THAT SUBJECT PARCEL WILL BE TORN DOWN AND REPLACED WITH OUR

PROPOSED DESIGN.

THE NEIGHBOR TO THE LEFT AND TO THE RIGHT BOTH USE STREET

ACCESS.

IN FACT, THE YELLOW, NEWER CONSTRUCTION HOME, UTILIZES A

U-SHAPED DRIVEWAY, WHICH IT ACCESSES THE STREET NOT ONE

POINT BUT TWO POINTS.

REGARD NOT ONLY DOES THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD USE THE

STREETS, BUT ACTUALLY SUPPORT MRS. SANTOS, HER PROPOSED

DESIGN EXCEPTION.

SHE'S GATHERED 15 SIGNATURES FROM THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS




THAT SAY THEY ARE ALL AGREEABLE.

AND THIS IS ATTACHED TO THE PETITION THAT WAS FILED TODAY

FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION REVIEW.

THESE ARE ALL OF HER NEIGHBORS.

AND 2421 STATE STREET, 2422 STATE STREET, 2424 STATE STREET,

ALL THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ACTUALLY SUPPORT THE

DESIGN EXCEPTION BY CONTINUING HISTORIC USE OF USING THE

STREET AND UTILIZING THAT STREET TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE FRONT

OF THE PROPERTY.

AS THE PRIOR APPLICANT INDICATED, THESE ALLEYS ARE TOO

NARROW FOR FIRE DEPARTMENTS, TOO NARROW FOR ANYONE TO USE

FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE

HISTORIC -- PART OF WHAT ABOUT R THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY

STANDS FOR, IS DESIGNED TO INCREASE SAFETY AND FURTHER THAT

END.

IF THE POLICE AREN'T EXPECTED TO GO DOWN AN ALLEYWAY TO

ACCESS SOMEONE'S HOME IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, HAVING

ESSENTIALLY EMERGENCY SERVICES ENTER THROUGH THE REAR OF A

BUILDING, IF THIS DESIGN EXCEPTION IS NOT GRANTED.

OF COURSE, I RESERVE THE ARREST OF MY TIME FOR REBUTTAL.

14:23:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU STILL GET REBUTTAL ANYWAY IF YOU

STAY WITHIN 15 MINUTES.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME?

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




PUBLIC COMMENT.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK?

IF NOT, I KNOW MRS. SANDY SANTOS IS ALSO REGISTERED FOR THIS

ITEM.

I SEE NO ONE HERE IN THE PUBLIC.

IF WE CAN GO TO SANDY SANCHEZ.

YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN SWORN IN SO PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA ON

AND STATE YOUR NAME.

YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.

14:24:21 >> ONE SECOND.

OKAY.

GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS SANDY SANCHEZ.

I'M PRESIDENT OF THE GARDENS CIVIC ASSOCIATION, ALSO

HISTORIC COMMITTEE OF THE WEST TAMPA CRA, CSA, WORKING ON

THE EXISTING WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.

THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE CHANGES TO THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY

WERE TO MAKE STREETS SAFER FOR ALL USERS, ESPECIALLY THE

VULNERABLE POPULATION.

WHILE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, BLOBBING THE

SIDEWALK FORCES PEDESTRIANS AND CHILDREN TO USE THE STREETS.

AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNDER WENT TAMPA ALREADY HAVE NO

SIDEWALKS.

WHEN I FIRST GLANCED AT MRS. SANTOS CONTRACT PLANS, I

THOUGHT ANOTHER CONTRACTOR IS NOTE FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES




OF THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.

THERE IS NO ALLEY ACCESS.

THEN I LOOKED AGAIN.

HE DESIGNED THE DRIVEWAY SO THERE'S MORE THAN 35 FEET LONG

AND THE GARAGE IS FURTHER BACK ON THE PROPERTY.

ROOMS FOR CARS AND SIDEWALKS.

AS I SAID BEFORE, THE CHANGES TO THE WEST TAMPA CRA ARE

CONTINUING TO WORK WITH STAFF TO EXPAND THE LANGUAGE AND

PROVIDE OTHER SOLUTIONS SINCE WE REALIZED THAT ONE SIZE

FIGHTS ALL SOLUTION IS NOT PRACTICAL.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

MR. COLE LOAN THOUGHT OUT OF THE BOX AND HAS GIVEN US

ANOTHER OPTION.

WHILE THIS ALLEY IS CLEAR AND WIDE ENOUGH, WE FEEL THAT HE

HAS FULFILLED THE INTENT OF THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY BY

CREATING THIS DRIVEWAY TO KEEP THE CARS OFF THE STREET.

I PERSONALLY COMMEND MR. CO-LOAN FOR STUDYING HOMES THAT

APPEARS TO FULFILL THE INTENT OF MAKING OR STREETS SAFER.

IF THERE ARE NO OTHER EXCEPTIONS TO BE CONSIDERED, AND IT IS

THE DRIVEWAY IS AT LEAST 35 FEET LONG, IT APPEARS -- AS IT

APPEARS ON THE PLANS, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU ALLOW THE DESIGN

EXCEPTION FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2423 WEST STATE STREET, BUT

ONLY YOU UNDER THOSE EXCEPTIONS.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A COUPLE THINGS.

GENTLEMEN, WHEN THE APPLICANTS APPLY, THESE HOUSES WERE




BUILT IN 1930, 1940, OF COURSE WE ALL HAVE FRONT DRIVEWAYS.

BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS BUILT BACK THEN.

THE OLDER HOMES HAVE THE LONGER DRIVEWAYS, AND IT DOESN'T

APPEAR TO BE A PROBLEM.

IT'S THE NEWER HOMES THAT GIVE YOU THE SHORT DRIVEWAYS THAT

CAUSE THE CARS TO STICK OUT THAT THERE'S NO ROOM.

SO WHEN YOU ARE LISTENING TO THESE APPLICANTS THAT COME IN,

PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WHILE THEY ARE TALKING

ABOUT THEY ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE WHAT ARE GOING TO

BE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN ALLEY ACCESS, THEY ARE ALSO THE ONLY

PEOPLE ON THE BLOCK WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE A TWO-STORY HOUSE

WHICH IS ALSO DIFFERENT.

SO I ASK THAT YOU ALLOW THIS DESIGN EXCEPTION.

THANK YOU.

14:27:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S THE ONLY REGISTERED SPEAKER.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

NO?

14:27:37 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I PROVIDED THE SAMPLE MOTIONS.

BUT BASED UPON THE AGENT'S PRESENTATION THAT THEY ARE NOT

GOING FORWARD REGARDING THE OVER-JUST CONFIRMED THAT ON THE

RECORD -- THEN FOR THE SAMPLE MOTION IF CITY COUNCIL COULD

WITHDRAW THAT CODE SECTION CONSIDERATION FOR THE MOTION.

AND THAT CODE SECTION SPECIFICALLY IS 27-241 SUBSECTION




2-C-7.

14:28:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALLEY ACCESS ONLY, CORRECT?

14:28:17 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
ALLEY ACCESS IS 241 SUBSECTION

2-C-5.

14:28:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO WE ARE TO ELIMINATE THAT FROM THE

MOTION.

14:28:26 >> ELIMINATE C-7.

14:28:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY, SORRY.

14:28:29 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
IF YOU COULD CONFIRM THAT ON THE

RECORD, PLEASE.

14:28:32 >> YES, IF I WASN'T CLEAR BEFORE, WE ARE WITHDRAWING THE

24-INCH GRADE REQUIREMENT, THE C-7 EXCEPTION.

WE ARE WITHDRAWING THAT.

14:28:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.

14:28:42 >> WE ARE ONLY PROCEEDING UNDER THE ALLEYWAY EXCEPTION.

THANK YOU, MRS. SANCHEZ, FOR HER SUPPORT.

14:28:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?

14:28:55 >> I WOULD NOTE SINCE IT WAS ALLUDED TO AND MRS. SANCHEZ

INDICATED THE DRIVEWAY DOES HAVE A 35-FOOT SETBACK, COULD

PUT FOUR CARS WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN MOST DESIGN FOR THE

WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.

14:29:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WITH ROOM FOR A SIDEWALK.

14:29:10 >> IT'S FAR ENOUGH FROM THE SETBACK TO ALLOW PEDESTRIAN

ACCESS AS WELL.




14:29:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE?

14:29:16 >> THAT'S IT.

14:29:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE FROM GUDES AND CITRO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

COUNCILMAN CARLSON, GO AHEAD, SIR.

14:29:36 >>BILL CARLSON:
CITY ATTORNEY, CORRECT ME IF I MISS

ANYTHING BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE

ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL, DESIGN EXCEPTION APPLICATION

D-1-22-05 L 50 BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAS MET THE NECESSARY

STANDARDS, THEY HAVE PROVIDED, IN ADDITION, PROVIDED

SUFFICIENT SPACE FOR FOUR CARS, AND ALSO PEDESTRIAN ACCESS,

AND ACCOMMODATING AN OLDER HOME.

14:30:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

ALL RIGHT.

YOU ARE GOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A 5-MINUTE RECESS SO WE CAN GET STAFF

AND HAVE BEEN ELSE SITUATED BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH THE

AGENDA.

AND THEN WE WILL BE BACK.




THANKS.

(CITY COUNCIL RECESS).



14:44:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL.

14:45:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.

14:45:04 >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.

14:45:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.

14:45:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.

14:45:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.

14:45:11 >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

14:45:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WELCOME BACK.

WE HAVE MR. JOHNSON TO PRESENT THE CITIZENS BUDGET.

14:45:21 >> I THINK IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I HAVE BEEN BEFORE

COUNCIL BUT THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

14:45:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

14:45:32 >> JOE JOHNSON, CHAIRMAN.

BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, CITIZENS BUDGET AND FINANCE

COMMITTEE.

TODAY, I AM HERE TO TOUCH ON WHAT OUR COMMITTEE IS GOING.

WE ALREADY KNOW WHERE WE HAVE BEEN, BUT WE WANT TO DISCUSS

WHERE WE ARE GOING, AND WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE

ADMINISTRATION, WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, MAINLY THE BUDGET

DEPARTMENT, AND ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

SO WITH THAT, THE COMMITTEES MET YESTERDAY AS WE DO ON A

MONTHLY BASIS, AND WE DISCUSS SOME OF THE PROCESSES THAT




HAVE BEEN IN PLACE AS PERTAINS -- (AUDIO DROP)

CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THE PUBLIC, AND MEET WITH DEPARTMENTS

WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE BUDGET PRESENTATION THAT THE MAYOR

PUTS OUT.

SO THAT WAY, WE ARE NOT CATCHING UP, WE ARE NOT CATCHING UP

FROM BEHIND, WE ARE COMING IN FROM BEHIND, WE ARE ACTUALLY

ON TARGET IN STEP WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, AS PERTAINS TO BE

RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO THAT MEANS THAT ORIGINALLY WE ASK TO MEET QUARTERLY WITH

THE DEPARTMENTS TO DISCUSS PROJECTS THEY ARE WORKING ON

CURRENTLY AND PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE COMING UP IN THE

FUTURE, FORECAST IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE THINK WE FEEL THAT IT IS BEST WHEN STAFF AND THE

BUDGET OFFICE IS CONSTRUCTING THE NEW FISCAL YEAR BUDGET

THAT WE BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS SO THAT WAY WE CAN ASK

QUESTIONS AND RECEIVE THE ANSWERS AND WE CAN FORM BETTER

RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.

SO I THINK THAT -- I FEEL THAT MYSELF AND CFO ROGER O, WE

ARE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT, AND I THINK WITH MR.

SHELBY'S INPUT AND ALSO MR. MASSEY, I THINK THAT EVERYBODY

IS ALIGNED.

BUT I DID HAVE A QUESTION, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BE ANY

CONFUSION.

I KNOW THERE'S A RESOLUTION THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE THAT

FORMED THIS COMMITTEE BACK IN 2008 BUT TODAY THIS CURRENT




COUNCIL, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION OF THIS

COUNCIL AS PERTAINS TO THE BUDGET AND FINANCE, THE CITIZENS

BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE?

WHAT IS YOUR EXPECTATIONS OF US AS PERTAINS TO THIS PROCESS?

THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP DURING OUR MEETING

YESTERDAY.

14:48:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MY QUESTION TO MYSELF WHEN YOU FIRST

TOOK IT IN, I AM NOT FOR OR AGAINST ANYTHING OF ANY KIND,

BUT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AS ALWAYS RECEIVED OUTSTANDING

REVIEWS FROM US AND OTHER AGENCIES DURING THE COURSE THAT I

HAVE BEEN HERE.

SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR, I GUESS IS YOUR QUESTION?

14:48:32 >> CORRECT.

14:48:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND I AM LOOKING FOR WE HAVE INTERNAL

AUDITORS, WE HAVE EXTERNAL AUDITORS, AND NEVER FOUND A

MISTAKE AT ALL THAT I KNOW OF, ANYWAY, IN THE SYSTEM WE HAVE

IN PLACE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR COMMITTEE WANTS OR WHAT YOU ARE

LOOKING FOR.

14:48:47 >> WELL, AGAIN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION, THE

RESOLUTION WAS CLEAR AS PERTAINS TO THE FUNCTION OF THIS

COMMITTEE, AND THAT IS TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET, LOOK AT THE

BUDGET, MEET WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, AND MAKE SOUND ECONOMICAL

RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.

I THINK THAT OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS -- AND NO SLIGHT TO MY




PREDECESSOR -- BUT I BELIEVE THAT OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS

UNDER MY GUIDANCE AS CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE DONE THAT, BUT IN

DOING SO, AND I LIKE TO SAY I'M A STRAIGHT SHOOTER.

YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE FOR IT, SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT FOR

IT.

SO AGAIN THIS IS A COUNCIL COMMITTEE.

THAT'S WHERE THE QUESTION WAS RAISED, WHAT IS THE

EXPECTATION?

ARE WE TO STICK WITH THE RESOLUTION AND DO JUST THAT?

OR ARE WE TO ATTAR IT IN ANOTHER WAY AND MOVE IN A DIFFERENT

DIRECTION?

SO I WAS CLEAR ON THE RESOLUTION, BUT --

14:49:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME EITHER WAY.

14:49:56 >> BUT I THINK MOVING FORWARD, I THINK STILL MOVING FORWARD,

YOU KNOW, WE SAT DOWN.

IF THE ADMINISTRATION THINKS -- THEY HAVE ALLOWED THEIR

DEPARTMENT HEADS TO COME AND MEET WITH US.

SOMETIMES IT COULD BE A LITTLE HEATED AS WE TRY TO GET

INFORMATION, AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE LIKE IT, SOME PEOPLE

DON'T.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED

A LOT OF GREAT THINGS THIS COUNCIL, AND SOME THINGS WE CAN

IMPROVE UPON, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THE COMMITTEE,

ADMINISTRATION, COUNCIL COMMITTEE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE

AND WE UNDERSTAND --




14:50:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND I AM NOT TRYING QUESTION YOU, BUT WHAT

IS IT YOU THINK YOU CAN IMPROVE UPON?

14:50:44 >> THAT WE CAN IMPROVE UPON?

14:50:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, SIR.

14:50:47 >> I DON'T THINK THAT THE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, HAS THINGS

THAT NEED TO IMPROVE UPON.

I THINK IT'S THE PROCESS OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT COUNCIL

AND THE ADMINISTRATION.

BECAUSE THERE ARE TIMES WHERE THERE IS A DISCONNECT.

AND THERE'S A DISCONNECT IN THE INFORMATION THAT WE OBTAIN,

AND THAT WE CAN SAY.

SOME PEOPLE LIKE IT ASSOCIATION PEOPLE DON'T.

SO TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE ARE DOING WHAT COUNCIL EXPECTS OF

US.

WE JUST WANT TO IMPROVE UPON THE RECEIVING PROCESS.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ADDRESSING HERE.

BUT AGAIN, I HAVE HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH THE CFO, AND I

THINK THAT MOVING FORWARD I THINK THE DRAIN WILL MOVE IN THE

RIGHT DIRECTION.

AND WE AGREE TO DISAGREE.

IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL.

14:51:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M NOT PERSONAL ANYTHING.

EVEN IF IT FALLS IN THE CENTER, I'M HAPPY.

I'M HAPPY THE WAY IT WAS, AND GETTING THE BENEFIT TO THE

CITY AND THE TAXPAYERS.




SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS, I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND -- I

UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT PUTTING IT THROUGH THE

CONCEPTUAL CONCEPT OF WHAT'S GOING ON, HAVE YOU FOUND

ANYTHING AT ALL THAT IS AGAINST ANY MEASUREMENTS OF

FINANCING IRREGULARITIES?

14:52:23 >> WELL, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE

OF MONTHS AGO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A MEMO THAT WAS BASED ON

INFORMATION AND HAVING A MEETING WITH A CERTAIN DEPARTMENT,

AND IT RUFFLED A LITTLE FEATHERS, OKAY.

WE HAVE YET TO REALLY DISCUSS THAT.

SO RIGHT NOW, AT THIS MEETING, I WILL NOT DISCUSS THAT,

OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN WITH CHIEF OF STAFF AND -- THE

CHAIRMAN OF COUNCIL AND ALSO THE CFO AND REVIEW IT, BECAUSE

MAYBE THERE'S AN EXPANSION FOR IT.

14:53:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:53:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CITRO AND COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:53:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU SAID YOU WANT TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS

AND THAT'S WHAT THE ADVISORY BOARD IS, IS PART OF THE

PROCESS.

BUT YOUR STATEMENT WAS YOU WANT TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL MAKING OF THE BUDGET?

OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT WHEN THE BUDGET IS

FINISHED, YOUR COMMITTEE OVERLOOKS IT, AND THEN COMES BACK

WITH REPORTS TO US TO SEE IF MAYBE WE ARE WANTING TO ADD




SOMETHING OR DETRACT SOMETHING FROM THAT BUDGET.

WHICH PART OF THE PROCESS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU

WANT TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN?

14:53:53 >> SO IN ORDER FOR US TO MAKE SOUND RECOMMENDATIONS TO

COUNCIL, IN YEARS PAST WE HAVE ALWAYS MET AROUND MAY OR

JUNE.

AND AT THAT TIME, THE BUDGET IS PRETTY MUCH CONSTRUCTED.

I SAFE TO SAY THAT, CHIEF?

OKAY.

SO ONCE THE PROCESS STARTS, WE ARE REALLY NOT SEEING WHAT IS

ACTUALLY IN THE BUDGET, OKAY, WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE THAT THE

ADMINISTRATION IS ASKING FOR, UNTIL AFTER THE MAYOR

PRESENTS.

SO ONCE THE MAYOR PRESENTS, WILL HAVE PRESENTED IN THE PAST,

THEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT PREVIOUS YEAR'S BUDGET AND WE LOOK AT

WHAT THE NEW FISCAL YEAR BUDGET IS GOING TO BE AND THEN WE

SIT DOWN AND WE DISCUSS PRIOR FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET AND

UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET AND TRY AND MAKE THE BEST

DECISION POSSIBLE AS PERTAINS TO RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS, ON A YEAR OVER YEAR BASIS GOING

FORWARD WITH THIS COMMITTEE, WHETHER I AM ON THIS COMMITTEE

OR WHOEVER IS ON THIS COMMITTEE, THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS TO

KIND OF BE INVOLVED IN SOMEWHAT OF THAT PROCESS, AND THAT'S

WHERE MEETING QUARTERLY OR MONTHLY WITH DEPARTMENTS TO KIND

OF SEE WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE CURRENTLY AND WHAT THE NUMBERS




ARE LOOKING FOR COMING UP.

SO EVERY YEAR -- GO AHEAD.

14:55:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THE PROCESS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS YOU THE

CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD WANTS TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS OF

CREATING THIS BUDGET.

14:55:24 >> NO.

NO, WE DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF THE CREATION OF THE BUDGET.

WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AS TO -- SO WHEN

YOU LOOK AT A BUDGET FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, YOU ARE

CONSTANTLY MONITORING YOUR BALANCE SHEET EVERY YEAR, EVERY

MONTH, RIGHT?

SO BASICALLY, EVERY EARMARKED DOLLAR THAT THE ADMINISTRATION

HAS EARMARKED FOR A PROJECT, OR FOR A CONTRACTUAL SERVICE,

WHATEVER SERVICES IS OUT THERE, YOU STILL HAVE TO ACCOUNT

FOR WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING, AND WHAT'S COMING IN, RIGHT?

SO NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU NEED TO SET YOUR

BUDGET LEVELS AT, OKAY?

SO THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, WHEN I LOOK AT THE

SCOPE OF WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BUDGET AND FINANCE, YOU ARE

LOOKING AT NUMBERS, YOUR JOB IS TO MONITOR AND MAKE SURE

THAT EITHER WE ARE ON TARGET, BELOW TARGET OR ABOVE IT.

AND IF YOU ARE ABOVE IT, WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION OF IT?

SO WE DON'T WANT TO TELL THE ADMINISTRATION WHAT TO DO.

WE WANT TO LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE AT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE

SOUND DECISIONS AS PERTAINS TO THE ECONOMICS OF YOUR




DECISIONS WHEN IT COMES TO APPROVING THAT PROCESS.

14:56:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MY NEXT POINT, AT WHAT PART OF THE PROCESS

IS YOUR BOARD GOING TO COME BACK WITH THE ADVISORS THAT WE

SELECTED TO YOUR BOARD, GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY,

COUNCILPERSON, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE DONE WITH THIS

BUDGET?

IS THIS GOING TO BE AFTER THE BUDGET?

IS THIS GOING TO BE DURING THE PROCESS OF THE MAKING OF THE

BUDGET?

AT WHAT POINT --

14:57:09 >> OF THE BUDGET BEING CONSTRUCTED.

SO PROBABLY RIGHT TOWARDS -- I WOULD SAY THE MIDDLE OR THE

END.

BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY ON A QUARTERLY BASIS

OR MONTHLY BASIS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CURRENT FISCALS AND

LOOKING AT WHAT THEIR PROJECTIONS ARE GOING TO THE NEW

FISCAL YEAR THAT GIVES US A BETTER IDEA AND UNDERSTANDING AS

TO WHERE THE BUDGET IS GOING TO BE GOING, FOR THE NEXT

FISCAL YEAR.

SO YOU LOOK AT YOUR PROJECTIONS, AND YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME

INDIVIDUALLY, CAN COME TO YOU AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT THE

ADMINISTRATION IS THINKING, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS, AND SO

ON.

THESE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

DID I ANSWER THE QUESTION?




14:57:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES AND NO.

14:57:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:57:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WELL, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME GOOD PEOPLE

THAT WORKED OFTEN THIS COMMITTEE.

WHAT I CAN SAY MR. JOHNSON IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID, I

MEAN THE BROAD EVERYONE IN THE CITY SAID YOU HAVE DONE A

HELL OF A JOB FOR TWO YEARS, MY FRIEND.

THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE SAY WHO ARE WATCHING.

I SELECTED YOU TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE, BUT WHAT THE PEOPLE

SAY.

I KNOW YOU ARE A FINANCE GUY.

I KNOW YOU ARE A MONEY GUY.

THAT'S WHY I SAID, YOU NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE ON THAT BOARD,

NOT JUST BECAUSE OF A FRIEND BUT PEOPLE WHO KNOW MONEY, WHO

KNOW BUDGETS.

JUST HAVING SOMEBODY ON THE BOARD WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO

SPREADSHEETS, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO REALLY ORGANIZE.

YOU ARE WASTING THE TIME, AND WASTING THE TIME WITH

COMMITTEE.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE COMMITTEE,

BECAUSE FINDING OUT THE COMMITTEE WAS NOT OPERATING THE WAY

THE SHOULD HAVE OPERATED.

SO THAT BROUGHT A LIGHT ON THE COMMITTEE.

AND TO GET THINGS TO WHERE I BELIEVE THE RESOLUTION WAS

INTENDED FOR.




WHEN I LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION, WHEN I LOOK AT THE COMMITTEE

WANTED, IT'S REALLY OVERSIGHT.

14:59:10 >> YES.

14:59:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
OVERSIGHT OF WHAT WE ARE SPENDING WHAT WE

ARE DOING, HOW WE ARE SPENDING OUR MONEY ON PROJECTS AND

WHAT WHATEVER, EXPECTATIONS TO THIS COUNCIL.

AND WE LOOK AT WHAT THE BUDGET FINANCE COMMITTEE, AS

ADVISORS, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE STAFF TO GO SEE WHAT CHIEF

OF STAFF IS DOING OR ANYBODY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT STAFF LIKE

OTHERS MIGHT HAVE STAFF THAT CAN GIVE US INFORMATION, SO

THEY ARE DOING IT BUT WE DON'T AGREE WITH IT.

EACH CHARLIE SAID WE SHOULD HAVE -- THE BUDGET ANALYSIS.

SO THE CHARTER ABOUT NOT HAVING THAT PERSON TO TELL US WHAT

WE NEED TO BE DOING AND WHAT WE DON'T.

SO WE ARE VIOLATING OUR OWN RULE.

THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL.

THAT'S WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS.

WHEN I LOOK AT OVERSIGHT, I LOOKED AT THE BUDGET, THE

COMMITTEE TO TALK -- WE HAD A MEETING, RIGHT WHEN THE

COMMITTEE SAID, WE BELIEVE IT MAY BE OUT OF BOUNDS.

THEY MAY BE DOING A GREAT JOB AT GETTING AWARDS AND

EVERYTHING BUT STILL SOMETIMES INTERNALLY WE COULD BE A

LITTLE BETTER BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BE DOING THINGS WAY BETTER

THAN OTHER PEOPLE ARE, YOU ARE DOING THINGS BETTER THAN

OTHERS DO.




THAT'S THE WAY THINGS GO.

AGAIN, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, THE WAY I SEE IT, IS A

RESOLUTION, AND THIS COMMITTEE IS AN OVERSIGHT OF THE CITY,

AND TO GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS, SOUND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS

COUNCIL FOR SUPPORT OR NOT TO SUPPORT.

SO THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT -- I WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE ON WHAT I

JUST SAID, BUT THAT'S WHAT I READ IT.

THAT'S HOW I TAKE IT.

15:00:58 >> WHEN YOU READ THE RESOLUTION, THE RESOLUTION IS VERY

CLEAR.

I MEAN, I HAVE READ THE RESOLUTION PROBABLY ABOUT TEN TIMES.

I ALSO LOOKED AT THE ORDINANCE AS IT PERTAINS TO THE BUDGET,

AS IT PERTAINS TO COUNCIL.

BEING IN CONTROL OF THE BUDGET UNTIL THE BUDGET FOR THE

UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS CORRECT.

BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S RECOMMENDATIONS AT TIMES

THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS MADE TO COUNCIL AND, YOU KNOW,

COUNCIL ITSELF HAS, YOU KNOW, OVERLOOKED, AND I WILL JUST

GIVE AN EXAMPLE.

THIS CITY IS GROWING.

IT'S GROWING TREMENDOUSLY.

THE CENSUS SAID THE CITY IS GROWING, IT GREW 25%.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY OF

TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, CENSUS DATA CAME, IT'S POSTED,




BUT THE CITY IS CONSTANTLY GROWING.

SO IT SAYS WE GREW 25%, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, IF YOU JUST LOOK

AT IT.

WE ARE PROBABLY AT ABOUT, I WOULD SAY, 37 TO 44%.

WITH THAT, WE TALK ABOUT JUST WHAT YOU SAID.

YOU KNOW, MAKING SOUND RECOMMENDATIONS.

ONE.

RECOMMENDATIONS WE MADE WAS AN EXPANSION OF THE CITY

COUNCIL'S BUDGET.

WE RECOMMENDED IT AS A COMMITTEE.

THERE IS A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT WE RECOMMENDED.

BUT IT'S UP TO THIS COUNCIL TO LISTEN.

YOU CAN HAVE THE COMMITTEE, BUT WHEN COMMITTEE MEMBERS MAKE

THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL, SOUND RECOMMENDATIONS,

IT'S UP TO YOU TO REALLY DIGEST IT AND DISCUSS IT AMONGST

COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EITHER SAY YAY OR NAY INSTEAD OF JUST

SAYING NAY IN THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT.

WE RECOMMENDED THAT YOUR BUDGET BE EXPANDED, AND IN THE SPUR

OF THE MOMENT THERE WAS A FEW COUNCILMEN WHO SAID ABSOLUTELY

NOT.

SO WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION OF

THIS COMMITTEE, AS IT PERTAINS TO THE BUDGET AND FINANCE

COMMITTEE, I ASKED THAT QUESTION BASED ON PAST

RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE MADE.

RECOMMENDATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO SPENDING MONEY, EVERYONE




APPROVES.

RECOMMENDING CERTAIN -- ON CERTAIN ITEMS, IT'S BEEN NO, NAY,

WITHOUT REALLY TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHY WE MADE THOSE

RECOMMENDATIONS AND ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS, WHY DID YOU FEEL

THE NEED TO?

SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT QUESTION,

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:03:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M JUST THINKING TO MYSELF, IF I IN ANY

WAY -- MAYBE A PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH MYSELF IS THAT I

MAYBE FEEL THAT WORTH $75 A WEEK AND I LIKE TO GIVE WHATEVER

I HAVE TO SOCIETY AND TO WHATEVER I CAN AFFORD.

HOWEVER, WHEN YOU WERE EXPLAINING, YOU TALKED IN PERSON

ABOUT THE NUMBERS, 2022 AND YOU GO LOOK AT THE 2023 BUDGET,

SO LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, AM I CORRECT WHAT YOUR STATEMENT

WAS?

15:04:32 >> CORRECT.

YOU WANT TO LOOK AND SEE HOW THE NUMBERS ARE TRENDING.

15:04:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THEN WE WENT FROM THAT TO ADDING STAFF.

15:04:40 >> NO.

WHAT I AM SAYING IS WHEN WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS,

INSTEAD OF BEING QUICK ON CERTAIN THINGS, INSTEAD OF BEING

QUICK TO SAY NO, WHICH WAS DONE, YOU KNOW, THIS PAST YEAR,

BECAUSE IT CAME ABOUT FOUR WEEKS AGO AS PERTAINS TO YOUR

BUDGET BEING INCREASED, AND IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED THAT WE

HAD MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION AS A COMMITTEE.




BUT WHEN YOU GO BACK AND SAY THAT BASICALLY YOU HAVE -- I

DID NOT MEAN TO OFFEND ANYONE, BUT AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO

COLLABORATION AND COOPERATION.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE AS APPOINTEES, AND AS VOLUNTEERS TO DO

A JOB THAT BASICALLY THE CITY ORDINANCE AND YOUR RESOLUTION

OR THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE A BUDGET ANALYST

TO DO ALL OF THAT.

BUT INSTEAD OF HAVING A PAID ANALYST YOU HAVE AN ADVISORY

COMMITTEE TO BASICALLY FILL THAT ROLE OF THAT BUDGET

ANALYST.

AND IF WE WERE A STAFF MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL, WOULD YOU

HAVE LISTENED TO WHAT THAT BUDGET ANALYST SAID VERSUS

LISTENED TO WHAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE, WHICH IS YOUR ADVISORY

COMMITTEE?

15:05:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU, AT THE SAME MOMENT

I'M HESITANT TO SAY THAT YOU ARE 100% CORRECT, BECAUSE EVEN

IF WE HAD A BUDGET ANALYST, THE SAME WAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.

EVEN IF YOU HIRE A BUDGET ANALYST THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE

TO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE OR SHE SAID.

THAT'S WHY I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE

SOMEONE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE ADVICE OF ANYONE,

INCLUDING MYSELF TO MYSELF.

THANK YOU.

15:06:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCILMAN CARLSON, COUNCILMAN VIERA.




15:06:25 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU ALSO.

I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS ABOUT YOU AND THE

COMMITTEE.

SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND EVERYONE ELSE HAS

DONE.

I READ THE CHARTER AGAIN LAST NIGHT.

CLEARLY IT SHOWS THAT WE HAVE APPROVAL OVER THE BUDGET.

AND THE MAYOR PRESENTS A BUDGET, AND WE APPROVE IT.

BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THE CHARTER WAS EVER MEANT AS A RUBBER

STAMP, AND WE SHOULDN'T BE SEEING THE BUDGET AT THE LAST

MINUTE AND APPROVING IT WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT'S IN IT.

I JUST THINK THE SUMMARY LAST YEAR WAS LIKE 138 PAGES WHICH

I THINK WE ALL READ BUT THE LONGER VERSION IS LIKE A

THOUSAND PAGES.

SO HAVING A SECOND SET OF EYES TO LOOK AT IT IS HELPFUL, AND

ALSO THERE ARE THREE THINGS THAT I THINK THIS COMMITTEE

SHOULD BE LOOKING, TO GET A SECOND OPINION, SECOND IS TO

FIND WAYS TO SAVE MONEY, AND THIRD IS TO HAVE THE COUNCIL

PERSPECTIVE.

ON THE SECOND OPINION, WE ARE PRESENTED BY STAFF, BUT IT'S

GREAT TO HAVE VOLUNTEERS, ESPECIALLY WITH EXPERTISE LIKE

YOURS TO BE LOOK AT IT AND JUST TELL US WHAT YOU THINK.

YOU MIGHT SEE THINGS AND YOU HAVE.

AND YOU ARE ABLE TO GET MUCH MORE IN-DEPTH, COMMITTEE

BRIEFINGS AND EVERYTHING.




NUMBER TWO IS WAYS TO SAVE MONEY.

YOU ALL FOUND SOME WAYS TO SAVE MONEY THAT YOU SUGGESTED,

AND ANY ADMINISTRATION SHOULD NOT TAKE THAT AT CRITICAL.

IT'S JUST ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK.

CLEARLY FROM THE SCHEDULING WE HAD LAST WEEK, WE NEED TO PUT

SOME PARAMETERS AROUND THE CCNA PROCESS.

HANNA AVENUE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT OUT FOR BID, AND THAT'S

SOMETHING, KNOW HO KNOWS WE COULD HAVE SAVED, MILLIONS OF

DOLLARS PROBABLY?

TOILET TO TAP, IF WE DON'T DO THAT WE'LL SAVE BILLIONS OF

DOLLARS.

SO THERE'S FISCAL IMPACT ON ALL THESE THINGS.

NUMBER THREE, THE COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE, JUST LIKE WE HAVE A

CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, WE SHOULD HAVE THE BUDGET ADVISER,

BUT IN LIEU OF THAT WE HAVE YOU A ALL AS VOLUNTEERS TO LOOK

AT IT AND IT'S GOOD TO HAVE EYES AND EARS.

IF THE STAFF -- IT'S NOT THAT ANYBODY DID ANYTHING WRONG,

BUT THEY ARE WORKING FOR THE MAYOR.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU FOUND LAST YEAR WAS $70 MILLION OF

SLUSH FUNDS.

AND I THINK REJECTED TO THAT TERM BUT WAS MONEY STASHED AWAY

THAT I THINK WE WOULD HAVE RATHER BE APPLIED TO PARKS OR

SIDEWALKS OR SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT CONSTITUENTS -- THE

CONSTITUENTS COMPLAINING ABOUT THINGS, AND I THINK THIS

ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN WORKING A LOT BETTER WITH US THAN




THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, BUT WE HAVE GOT TO FIND WAYS TO

MORE EFFICIENTLY USE THE MONEY.

BUT FOR SURE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT US TO RAISE TAXES, AND

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE UPSET BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE NEW HERE

DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE PERSON BEFORE THEM WAS HOMESTEADED

AND THEY ARE MAD BECAUSE THEY THINK WE RAISED OUR TAXES EVEN

THOUGH WE DIDN'T, AND PEOPLE ARE UPSET BECAUSE THE VALUES OF

THEIR HOMES HAVE GONE UP AND THEIR TAXES HAVE GONE UP.

I THINK IT'S OUR DUTY TO DO A FORENSIC AUDIT JUST SO WE HAVE

A SECOND OPINION.

I MEAN, BOARDS DO THAT WITH NONPROFITS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT

AGENCIES.

NOT THAT WE DON'T TRUST ANYBODY, BUT JUST HELPS EVERYBODY

FEEL COMFORTABLE.

THE LAST THING I WILL SAY IS THAT SINCE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE

APPROVAL, THE FINAL APPROVAL ON THE BUDGET, ONE OF THE

QUESTIONS EVERY MAYOR ASKS IS, THEY COME TO CITY COUNCIL AND

THEY SAY, WHAT DO YOU WANT?

WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM YOUR DISTRICT?

AND THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION FOR EVERY CITY COUNCIL

MEMBER SHOULD BE NOTHING, I DON'T WANT ANYTHING, AND THAT'S

WHAT I HAVE SAID FOR THREE YEARS.

I DON'T WANT ANYTHING FOR MY DISTRICT.

WHY?

BECAUSE ONCE YOU DO THAT, THE WAY SOME MAYORS DO IT IS THEY




GIVE YOU THAT, AND THEN THEY THINK THEY CONTROL YOUR VOTE

AFTER THAT.

WHY SHOULD YOU DO THAT, LIKE ORLANDO GUDES SAID A COUPLE

YEARS AGO, ASK FOR A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A PARK IN YOUR

DISTRICT.

IF HE HAD ASKED THE MAYOR FOR $200,000 FOR A PARK HE WOULD

HAVE TO NEGOTIATE BACK AND FORTH AND COME TO ASK CITY

COUNCIL FOR A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A PARK.

THEN HE DOESN'T HAVE TO GIVE UP ALL HIS OTHER VOTES FOR

HAVING NEGOTIATED THAT.

AND I THINK KNOWING MORE ABOUT THE BUDGET AND KNOWING ABOUT

OUR COLLEAGUES AND HOW WE WANT TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND HOW

THE BUDGET IS PUT TOGETHER, THERE'S A LOT OF POWER IN CITY

COUNCIL.

IT'S NOT THAT -- WE HAVE A STRONG MAYOR AND ALL THAT

TECHNICALLY KNEADS MEANS IS THAT THE MAYOR DOESN'T SIT ON

CITY COUNCIL.

IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE A DICTATORSHIP.

IF THE MAYOR ASKS US WHAT YOU WANT, IT SHOULD BE NO.

ASK CITY COUNCIL INSTEAD.

ASK CITY COUNCIL TO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET.

MAKE A MOTION TO CITY COUNCIL AND WE'LL SUPPORT EACH OTHER

AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO SELL OUR VOTES.

THANK YOU.

15:11:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.




15:11:08 >>LUIS VIERA:
I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I WANTED -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID SOME VERY GREAT

THINGS I AGREE WITH AND DISSENT ON THE I SHALL OF DISTRICTS

AND ASKING FOR FUNDS.

I WILL GIVE YOU TWO EXAMPLES AND MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE READ IT

DIFFERENT.

I AM JUST SPEAKING FOR LUIS VIERA HERE.

I REMEMBER FIRE STATION 13 AND HELPED FIRE STATION 13.

I APPROACHED THE ADMINISTRATION ON HELP FOR FIRE STATION 13.

I WORKED ON IT AND WORKED WITH JOE GRECO, THEN PRESIDENT OF

TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 754.

I EVEN DID A SPEND THE NIGHT AT STATION 13 TO ILLUSTRATE AND

PUT PRESSURE ON ALL STAKEHOLDERS ON HOW WE NEED ANOTHER FIRE

STATION, BECAUSE THAT'S THE BUSIEST FIRE STATION IN THE CITY

OF TAMPA, ONE OF THE 50th OR SO BUSY STATIONS IN THE

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

SO I WORKED TOWARDS THAT, BUILT TOWARDS THAT OVER A YEAR, A

LOT OF WORK, AND ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU TAKE ANOTHER ONE, THE

DISABILITY PARK.

THAT STARTED BACK IN 2017 AND I SAID, HEY, LOOK, I WOULD

LIKE TO HAVE $50,000 IN THE BUDGET FOR DESIGN FOR THAT PARK,

AND THEN I WILL LEAVE IT TO THE NEXT MAYOR TO WORK WITH IT.

WE GOT THAT IN.

IT DIDN'T GET IN THE BUDGET IN 19.

GOT PART OF IT IN 20, PART OF IN 21, TOOK ABOUT FOUR YEARS




OF LOBBYING.

I NEVER TRADED VOTES.

IT WAS SOMETHING FROM MY HEART.

AND TWO OF THE BIG ISSUES I FEEL A LOT ABOUT ARE FIRST

RESPONDERS AND DISABILITIES.

SO AGAIN, THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS, AND NOBODY IS RIGHT,

NOBODY IS WRONG, IT'S JUST MY WAY, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL.

SO IN THAT REGARD.

BUT I ALSO WANTED TO AGREE WITH WHAT A LOT OF FOLKS SAID

INCLUDING COUNCIL CARLSON, GUDES ANDS OTHERS ABOUT THE WORK

OF YOU ALL'S COMMITTEE THAT YOU WORK OBVIOUSLY, AND CORRECT

ME IF I AM WRONG, YOU DON'T GET PAID, RIGHT?

15:12:58 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

15:12:59 >>LUIS VIERA:
AND IT'S OBVIOUS YOU PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO

IT SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.

WITHOUT A DOUBT.

YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER ONE TIME -- AND TO ILLUSTRATE THE VIEW

THAT I THINK OF THIS COMMITTEE SHOULD BE DOING, YOU GO BACK

TO OUR DISCUSSION IN 2017 ON THE MILLAGE, YOUR COMMITTEE,

HAD RECOMMENDED, I THINK, IT WAS .9 RAISE IN THE MILLAGE.

WE WOUND UP RAISING IT.475 I THINK IT WHATS THAT YEAR, BY

ONE VOTE.

IT WAS A 4-3 VOTE.

SO THIS COMMITTEE CAME OUT AND TASKED THEM WITH THE DUTY,

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS WHEN IT PERTAINS TO FUTURE




REVENUE?

YOU ALL CAME OUT WITH A VERY CONTROVERSIAL POSITION THAT BY

THE WAY NO ONE ON COUNCIL EVER THOUGHT, I THINK WE BEGAN

WITH .6, IF I RECALL, IF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT.

SO IT IS UP TO YOU ALL TO GO OUT THERE AND BE TASKED WITH

THINGS.

ONE THING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU ALL TO DO CONSISTENT WITH

WHAT I SAID ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY IS ABOUT HOW DO WE GET MONEY

INTO THE BUDGET THROUGH VARIOUS MEANS FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY

NEEDS?

YOU SPOKE VERY WELL ABOUT THE FACT WE ARE A BIG GROWING CITY

AND WHATNOT.

WE HAVE OBVIOUS CHALLENGES IN NORTH AND NEW TAMPA, CONTINUES

TO HAVE CHALLENGES IN EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA WITH ALL THAT

WORKFORCE HOUSING CONTINUES TO GROW, WE ARE GOING TO NEED

MORE FIRE STATIONS AND POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE.

DOWNTOWN TAMPA, YOU SEE ALL THE GROWTH WE HAVE HAD IN 10 OR

12 YEARS.

NO NEW FIRE STATIONS THERE.

THE ISSUE IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO BUILD THAT BRIDGE

FINANCIALLY TO PAY FOR THE THINGS THAT WE NEED, NOT THAT WE

WANT.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE WANTS THAT WE NEED.

SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU ALL COULD WORK ON.

I WOULD SUGGEST WHICH IS TO LOOK AT PUBLIC SAFETY AND TO




LOOK AT HOW TO FUND THAT IN THE FUTURE.

WHAT CAN WE USE FOR THAT?

SO, IN OTHER WORDS, TO THE EXTENT THAT PEOPLE MAY DISAGREE,

BECAUSE I DID NOT SUPPORT THE IDEA OF ADDITIONAL FUNDS, HOW

MUCH MORE ARE YOU ALL ASKING FOR CITY COUNCIL?

15:14:47 >> WE WEREN'T ASKING FOR IT.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING.

15:14:51 >>LUIS VIERA:
SO.

15:14:52 >> SO LET ME TOUCH ON YOUR STATEMENTS, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DONE JUST THAT.

I BELIEVE THAT WHEN WE PRESENTED FOR FY 22, AT THE TIME,

CHAIRMAN GUDES ADVISED MYSELF, CHAIRMAN GUDES ADVISED MYSELF

AND CFO IN THE DEPARTMENT OFFICE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING

BOARD, AND WE DID THAT.

AND WHEN WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD WITH THE BUDGET

OFFICE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ASKED FOR WAS 2.6 MILLION OF

STAFF LEVEL INCREASES FOR THE CITY.

WE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL -- WE ACTUALLY SAID, TAKE THAT 5

MILLION OFF THE MONEY AND ALLOCATE IT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO WE WENT BACK AND WE MET WITH THE BUDGET OFFICER.

AND MR. PERRY IS NOT HERE, AND HE WANTS TO GET ON THE LINE,

BUT WE MET, AND MR. PERRY ACTUALLY CAME BACK AND SAID

INSTEAD OF 2.6 MILLION WE FOUND AN ADDITIONAL 3 MILLION, SO

WE CAN ADD INSTEAD OF 2.6 WE CAN DO 5 MONTE 6, ALL RIGHT?

AND THEN WHEN IT CAME TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN WE ASKED




FOR FIVE OF THE MONEY THAT WAS GOING TO SOLID WASTE,

REDIRECT IT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MR. PERRY CAME BACK AND

SAID IF OUR 14.8 MILLION OF FEDERAL AND STATE FUND.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO -- WE ARE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE

MILLION DOLLARS COUNCIL BUDGET INCREASING.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- WHEN WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING AS A

COMMITTEE, AND WE DISCUSS IT, AND WHEN WE COME UP AND WE

PRESENT, THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE -- WE WENT THROUGH A

THOROUGH PROCESS TO ARRIVE AT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE

PRESENT TO COUNCIL.

AND IF YOU GO BACK TWO YEARS, WE HAVE ASKED WE HAVE STATED,

PD NEEDED TO UPGRADE THEIR FLEET.

IT'S AN EYESORE OUT ON THE STREET.

THEY SHOULD NOTE BE DRIVING AROUND OLD CROWN VICTORIAS.

SO WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE BODY CAMS, WE CAME AND

SAID, LET'S GET IT DONE.

SO WE ADVOCATE FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE SEE BECAUSE WE HAVE

DONE A DEEP DIVE.

I WOULDN'T SAY A DEEP DIVE.

WE HAVE DONE LEAN DIVES.

IF YOU ARE IN THE COMMUNITY WHICH I AM, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE

BEEN DOING, AND WE ARE TRYING TO DO MORE OF A DEEPER DIVE SO

WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AS IT PERTAINS TO HOW THE

ADMINISTRATION FORMULATES THEIR BUDGET AND COMES TO COUNCIL

AND SAYS, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.




SO RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE BEEN -- WE HAVE BEEN TRACKING, BUT WE

HAVEN'T BEEN TRACKING AT THE PACE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO,

AND IN ORDER TO MAKE THE BEST SOUND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS

COUNCIL, TO APPROVE THE BUDGET.

FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO OPERATE, WE NEED MORE TIME WITH THE

DEPARTMENTS, OR WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE, SO THAT WE CAN

UNDERSTAND HOW THEY ARE CONSTRUCTING THEIR BUDGET AS

PERTAINS TO THE ECONOMICS OF THE CITY.

15:18:05 >>LUIS VIERA:
AND IF I MAY.

AGAIN, I GUESS MY POINT ON THAT IS IF ANY OF US DISAGREE

WITH ANY OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, JUST LIKE COUNCIL MEMBERS

DISAGREED WITH THAT MILLAGE RATE, I PROMISE YOU, IT COMES

AFTER A LOT OF THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION, AS WELL AS, I HOPE

FROM ALL OF US, DIFFERENCE DEFERENCE TO THE TIME THAT YOU

ARE PUTTING IN WITHOUT COMPENSATION, WHICH WE ARE ALL

APPRECIATIVE FOR.

THANK YOU.

15:18:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.

AND I KNOW --

15:18:37 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M STILL PRETTY NEW AT THIS BUT IF YOU ASK

WHAT I WANT, I THINK MR. VIERA, COUNCILMAN VIERA HAD A VERY

GOOD POINT OF YOUR SAYING THAT YOU HAD RECOMMENDED A .9

MILLAGE RATE, WHICH PREVIOUS COUNCILS HAD.

AND WHAT I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE IS SORT OF LIKE A DREAM,

AND THEN SOMETHING MORE REALISTIC.




IF WE HAVE THE MONEY THIS IS WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO

SEE, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, THIS IS WHERE WE

REALLY, REALLY NEED TO SPEND IT.

AND I KNOW THAT'S REALLY NOT MY DESIRE BUT I WOULD LOVE TO

SEE, IF WE HAVE THE FUNDS, WHAT DOES THE BUDGET COMMITTEE

REALLY WANT TO SEE?

15:19:25 >> I THINK THAT WE ARE HERE AS IT STATES ON THE AGENDA, AND

WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO YESTERDAY.

THIS IS TODAY.

SO HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD?

AND I THINK THAT MYSELF AND THE CFO, WE ARE ON THE SAME

PAGE.

WE WANT TO BE COLLABORATIVE AND WORK TOGETHER.

AND BE MORE -- THIS COMMITTEE BE MORE INVOLVED AS PERTAINS

TO MONITORING THE BUDGET.

AND BRINGING THINGS TO THE CFO'S ATTENTION, AND TO ACHIEVE

THE STAFF'S ATTENTION, AND UPDATING COUNCIL AS TO WHERE THE

CURRENT BUDGET IS SO WHEN THE NEW BUDGET IS BEING

CONSTRUCTED, AND BEING APPROVED FOR OPERATION, THAT

EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE.

I THINK IF YOU GO BACK TO THE RESOLUTION, THAT'S WHAT THIS

COMMITTEE IS.

THIS COMMITTEE IS -- IT'S A FISCAL HELP COMMITTEE.

IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMICS OF THE CITY, AND YOU

DON'T UNDERSTAND BUDGETS, THEN YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME.




15:20:38 >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.

15:20:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, COUNCILMAN CARLSON,

AND THEN MR. ROGERO.

15:20:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SINCE I HAVE YOU MR. ROGERO AND MR.

JOHNSON BOTH IN FRONT OF US, I THINK YOU HAVE ONE MORE BITE

AT THE C.I.T. TAX AND THEN IT'S FINI.

IN 2026, IT ENDS, AM I CORRECT?

SO YOU HAVE ONE MORE BITE.

WHAT WAS THE LAST AMOUNT OF THAT WE TOOK IN, DO YOU

REMEMBER?

NOT ACTUAL FIGURES.

A ROUNDABOUT.

A MILLION DOLLARS, WHATEVER IT WAS?

WHAT I AM SAYING IS THIS.

YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A NEED NOT ONLY TODAY FOR REPLACE OF

VEHICLES, A R AND THE REPLACEMENT OF VEHICLES TODAY, A FIRE

TRUCK COST YOU $800,000.

AND MAYBE MORE.

AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE TRANSPORT, AN AMBULANCE COST YOU

FIVE TIMES MORE THAN IT WAS WHEN YOU FIRST BOUGHT IT.

SO EVEN IF YOU HAVE A BUMP UP BECAUSE OF THE VALLEY, YOU

LOOK AT THE VALUE, YOU ARE GOING TO BE STATUS QUO AND MAYBE

A LITTLE BEHIND.

AND YOU KNOW AND ALL OF US KNOW ALL THE MONEY COLLECTED IN

THE CITY OF TAMPA, TAXATION INCLUDING HOMES AND BUILDINGS




AND EVERYTHING ELSE, DOES NOT COVER, AS YOU WELL KNOW, AS

YOU WELL KNOW BOTH OF YOU, THE COST OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT

AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND IT'S STILL ABOUT 50 MILLION.

I AM GOING TO BE 50 MILLION SHORT IN COVERING, WHICH IS WELL

NEEDED AND IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY.

THAT'S THE PUBLIC NEEDS, NUMBER ONE.

SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS BETWEEN YOU GENTLEMEN, BOTH THE

CITY AND THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

GET TOGETHER AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THAT

C.I.T. MONEY RUNS OUT IN 2026, AND WHERE IS THIS CITY GOING

TO BE NO MATTER WHO IS SITTING ON THAT SIDE OF THE AISLE OR

THIS SIDE OF THE OIL AS COUNCIL, WHAT ARE THE TAXPAYERS

GOING TO DO AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE THE REPLACEMENT

OF VEHICLES AT ONE COST?

BECAUSE NOW ELECTRIC VEHICLES CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT OF LESS

REPAIRS BUT THEY ARE GOING TO BE A LOT MORE COSTLY.

BECAUSE I SEE NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND WHY IS IT GOING TO

COST MORE, AND YOU GO BUY ONE NOW, 5 OR 10,000 OVER, EVEN

SOME OF THE MANUFACTURERS ARE TELLING DEALERS, DON'T DO

THIS, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THE DEALERSHIP AWAY FROM YOU.

AND THAT'S HAPPENED ALREADY TO TWO LARGE MANUFACTURERS IN

THIS COUNTRY.

SO IT'S COMING TO THE POINT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO GET -- TO

GO AND ACHIEVE IT AND WE BETTER HAVE A PLAN PAST 2026 REAL




QUICK.

BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO THAT, WHOEVER SITS ON THIS SIDE OF

THE AISLE OR THAT SIDE OF THE AISLE IT'S GOING TO BE UP THE

CREEK WITHOUT A PADDLE, AS THEY USED TO SAY.

BOTH OF YOU GENTLEMEN, THE CURRENT MAYOR AND THE CURRENT

COUNCIL, HAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THESE

THINGS, AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE ACHIEVEMENT OF THE

SERVICE LEVEL THAT THE PUBLIC EXPECTS, BECAUSE WE ARE WAY

BEHIND ON MANUFACTURING THE COST OF MONEY TO DO THE ROADS

THAT WE NEED.

THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT THAT WE RECEIVE, WHEN YOU PAVE THE

ROAD, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND THESE THINGS ARE COMING.

YOU HAVE THE PIPES PROGRAM GOING AT THE SAME TIME THAT YOU

HAVE TO REPAIR THE ROADS.

CAN'T REPAIR THE ROADS UNTIL YOU PUT THE PIPES -- I MEAN,

THIS IS ME THINKING.

I DO.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TEAR UP THE ROAD AND THEN TEAR IT UP

AGAIN TO PUT THE PIPES IN AND THEN COVER IT AGAIN?

YOU CAN'T DO THAT, BECAUSE IT'S DOUBLE THE COST.

AND THESE COST, WHAT IT'S COSTING THE CITY, AND YOU ARE

GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT PERCENT OVER 2023, 2022 IS

GOING TO JUMP, BECAUSE NOW YOU CAN'T TELL ME IGNORE IT.

CAN TELL YOU WHAT AN AIRPLANE IS GOING TO COST BECAUSE NO




ONE CAN TELL YOU THE PRICES AND YOU GO TO THE STORE NOW, YOU

YEAH, THEY GOT MILK, BUT THE MILK HAS -- NOT THE PLASTIC BUT

THE SQUARE TYPE, THEY ARE OUT.

I DON'T SEE IT AT WALMART.

I DON'T SEE IT AT A LOT OF PLACES.

SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME SHORTAGES IN THIS COUNTRY.

BUT I CAN GUARANTEE BY LOOKING AT THE SHELF, AND THE BIG

COMPANIES LIKE PUBLIX AND WALMART, THERE'S SOMETHING COMING

IN THIS COUNTRY.

MY FEELING IS, YOU GUYS, ALL OF YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF

BOTH COMMITTEES AND THE CITY, HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S

GOING TO HAPPEN, HOW YOU ARE GOING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE

CITY WITHOUT THE CIP BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC IS

GOING TO VOTE FOR CIP.

15:25:22 >> IF I CAN SPEAK ON THAT.

YOU KNOW, BEING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR RATHER THAN BEING IN

THE PUBLIC SECTOR, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE PRIVATE

SECTOR IS WHEN I GO BACK TO MONITORING YOUR BUDGET, YOU ARE

ALWAYS MONITORING -- WE YOU LOOK AT THE PUBLIC, THERE'S NO

SLIGHT TO ANYONE IN A POSITION, BUT THE REALITY IS, FROM THE

LOCAL, STATE, TO FEDERAL, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE WRITING A CHECK

FROM BEHIND RATHER THAN WRITING A CHECK OUT FRONT.

AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

THAT MEANS WRITING A CHECK OUT FRONT, I AM ACTUALLY WORKING

AT MY PROFITS AND MY LOSS AND I HAVE TO SAY, I HAD MORE




GOING OUT THAN I HAD COMING IN, WHAT WAS THE CAUSE OF THAT?

AND IN YOU GO BACK TO 2004, 2005 WHEN DELTA AIRLINES HAD TO

FILE BANKRUPTCY SOME SAY IT WAS BECAUSE OF FUEL BUT I CAN

TELL YOU IT WAS NOT BECAUSE OF FUEL, IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE

MISMANAGEMENT OF THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE --

THAT SHOULD HAVE COST THE CONE $650, THEY WERE BEING CHARGED

$1600 AND THERE WAS NO MEASUREMENTS IN PLACE TO MONITOR

THAT.

SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS YOUR OVERSPENDING FOR ITEMS THAT YOU

SHOULD NOT BE OVERSPENDING ON.

AND THAT ALSO SEEPS OVER TO THE PUBLIC SECTOR WHERE YOU PUT

THESE CONTRACTS OUT FOR BID.

AGAIN, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT -- I AM JUST GIVING AN

EXAMPLE.

PUTTING THESE CONTRACTS OUT TO BID AND WHAT HAPPENS IS, IT'S

DETERMINED AT THIS PRICE, AND YOU SAY IT'S COMPETITIVE, BUT

IT REALLY IS NOT COMPETITIVE, RIGHT?

BECAUSE YOU ARE OVERPAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD NOT

BE OVERPAYING FOR, BUT YOU ARE OVERPAYING FOR IT BECAUSE YOU

ARE A GOVERNMENT ENTITY.

AND I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO CIT, WHEN IT RUNS OUT IN 2026,

THE WAY TO OVERCOME THAT IS TO MONITOR YOUR SPENDING.

AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE BEING COMPETITIVE WITH THE

SERVICES THAT YOU ARE CONTRACTING OUT.

ESPECIALLY AS PERTAINS TO THE SUPPLY CHAIN, AS IT PERTAINS




TO SECURITY, OR WHATEVER.

WHATEVER SERVICES YOU ARE CONTRACTING OUT, YOU NEED TO MAKE

SURE THAT YOU ARE REALLY GETTING THE BEST BANG FOR YOUR

BUCK.

AND THAT'S NOT PERFORMANCE, THAT IS WHAT IS IT GOING FOR IN

THE PRIVATE SECTOR, RIGHT?

IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WE DO THIS EVERY DAY.

WE GET THREE BIDS, WE LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE IT'S

COMPETITIVE TO WHAT WE NEED.

THAT'S HOW YOU CAN OVERCOME --

15:27:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ONE LAST THING AND I WILL FINISH, PLEASE.

HAVE YOU GUYS IN YOUR COMMITTEE EVER DISCUSSED ANYTHING

ABOUT -- I AM NOT ANTI-SPORTS.

I AM ANTI-BUILDING FOR SPORTS.

THERE'S A VAST DIFFERENCE.

AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE A CONSIDERATION WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN,

BECAUSE IF IT DOES HAPPEN, THERE'S A -- I TALKED ABOUT THIS

SOME TIME BACK, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT

THE BUDGET?

YOU ALL KNOW IT'S SOMETHING STANDARD, AND FOR THE NEXT 30

YEARS, THE DEVELOPER RIGHTS GIVEN AWAY.

THESE ARE THINGS YOUR COMMITTEE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT, IN MY

OPINION, TO FIND OUT WHERE WE STAND AND MAKE

RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND I REALLY WOULD BE APPRECIATIVE OF WHATEVER YOU COME UP




WITH BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDED.

SOMETHING WITHOUT YOU CAN'T LIVE.

SO IT'S ABOUT THE PUBLIC NECESSITATES FIRST AND ONLY FIRST.

AFTER THAT, I AM NOT WILLING TO GIVE IT AWAY.

I AM WILLING TO HELP BUT I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE DEVELOPMENT

RIGHTS WHEN THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO PAY ME BACK WITH MY

MONEY ON THE 50% THEN ASK BE ME FOR THE 50%, AND AFTER THEY

ARE GETTING IT TO ARE FREE.

NOT ONLY THAT BUT THERE'S ANOTHER CONTRACT COMING UP NOW, I

BELIEVE ENDS IN 2026.

EVERYTHING ENDS IN 2026.

THE BIG STADIUM.

DOWN ON DALE MABRY.

2026.

15:29:24 >> I BELIEVE SO.

THE TIMING IS VERY CLOSE.

15:29:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE TIMING IS GOING TO BE ESSENTIALLY

POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE DO, AND

FROM WHAT I HEAR YOU ARE LOOKING AT SOMETHING OVER A HALF

BILLION DOLLARS.

SO JUST BE PREPARED.

AND YOU AND I -- I AM TRYING TO BE JOKING ABOUT SOMETHING

THAT'S VERY SERIOUS.

IT'S ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THESE DENTS,

WE MAY NOT HAVE THE PROBLEM WE HAVE TODAY, AND AFFORDABLE




HOUSING.

15:29:59 >> THAT'S WHERE THE COMMITTEE COMES INTO PLAY.

15:30:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU CAN DO.

15:30:04 >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST QUICKLY.

YESTERDAY, THE MAYOR HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE ON

ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY.

MOST OF THE COMMENTS SHE MADE WERE ABOUT CITY COUNCIL.

BUT I FEEL LIKE WE ARE PRETTY TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE.

WE ARE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC TWO OR THREE TIMES A WEEK.

THE PUBLIC WIND UP AS THEY DID THIS MORNING, AND THEY BLAST

HALF OR MOST OF US EVERY WEEK.

SO WE HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE PUBLIC.

WE GET E-MAILS, CALLS, WE ARE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY IN THE

PUBLIC ALL THE TIME, AND WE ARE DIRECTLY ACCOUNTABLE TO THE

PUBLIC.

WHAT I HEAR THE MOST, A REQUEST, IS MORE TRANSPARENCY FOR

THE ADMINISTRATION, AND NOT JUST THIS ADMINISTRATION BUT ANY

ADMINISTRATION, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T SEE THE INNER

WORKINGS OF IT.

AND YOU HAVE SEEN HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO NAVIGATE THE INSIDE

OF IT.

AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE HAD SOME PUSHBACK ON SOME MEETINGS

AND SOMEBODY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE ASKED.

BUT WHAT I WOULD DO IF I WERE YOU ALL, I WOULD PRINT OUT THE

HEADLINES FROM TODAY'S ARTICLES THAT SAY MAYOR CASTOR WANTS




ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY AND SHOW THEM AND HOPEFULLY

CHIEF OF STAFF WILL BACK YOU UP AND SAY THIS IS WHAT THE

MAYOR WANTS, THIS IS WHAT SHE SAID TO THE PUBLIC SHE WANTS,

SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS?

IF WE DISAGREE THAT'S FINE.

WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DO A WITCH HUNT TO TRY TO FIND SOMEBODY

DOING SOMETHING WRONG.

WE ARE JUST TRYING TO GET ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS.

AND TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY FROM ADMINISTRATION TO

YOUR COMMITTEE IS TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY TOWARD US

AND TOWARD THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE YOU ALL REPRESENT THOUSANDS

OF PEOPLE, AS YOU KNOW YOU ALL NETWORK AND ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE

IN THE COMMUNITY, AND CAN BE AMBASSADORS.

AND IF WE HAPPEN TO DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING THE

ADMINISTRATION IS DOING, THAT'S FINE.

WE SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE.

BUT AS LONG AS EVERYBODY IS TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE.

THANK YOU.

15:31:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. ROGERO.

15:31:58 >>DENNIS ROGERO:
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

CONGRATULATIONS, MA'AM, BEFORE I FORGET.

I DIDN'T STEP OVER HERE TO GET INTO ANY DISCUSSION OR CUT

SHORT ANY QUESTIONS.

MR. JOHNSON REFERENCED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND SAID A




STATEMENT THAT I AGREE, I THINK PHILOSOPHICALLY WE ARE ON

THE SAME PAGE.

OF COURSE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, MR. JOHNSON AND I HAD

DISCUSSION, MET WITH CHIEF OF STAFF, WANT TO THANK MR.

SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL FOR FACILITATING MANY DISCUSSIONS IN

THE BACKGROUND LEADING UP TO THIS MEETING.

AND THE REASON I BRING ALL THIS UP IS I THINK THIS MOTION IS

VERY WELL TIMED.

SO I AM GLAD YOU MADE IT.

I THINK WE ARE WELL POSITIONED FROM A TINY PERSPECTIVE TO GO

FORWARD IN NOT ONLY MONITORING THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET BUT

THE 23 BUDGET.

AGAIN AS YOU RECALL COUNCIL'S BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS

TYPICALLY STARTS WITH OUR PRESENTATIONS TO YOU NEXT MONTH AT

THE MIDYEAR REVIEW.

THAT'S GOING TO COINCIDE VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITIZEN

ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S NEXT MEETING.

I THINK THAT'S VERY WELL TIMED.

WE WILL BRING TO YOU WHERE WE THINK WE ARE IN THIS YEAR.

WE'LL HAVE ABOUT A HALF OF THE YEAR'S INFORMATION.

WE'LL BRING YOU WHERE WE THINK WE ARE GOING.

AGAIN NICELY COINCIDING WITH THE NEXT MEETING OF THE

CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

WE'LL ALSO SHARE INSIGHTS AS TO HOW WE FINISHED LAST YEAR.

AGAIN WHEN COUNCIL ADOPTS THE BUDGET IN SEPTEMBER, WE ARE




STILL NOT OUT OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

WE ARE JUST LEAVING AND IT TAKES MOMENTS TO CLOSE THE BOOKS

OUT, AS IT WERE.

SO IT'S WELL TIMED.

I THIS I WE ARE WELL PLACED GOING FORWARD, WITH A REGULAR

PERIODIC SCHEDULE.

SOUND LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT A MONTH FOR NOT ONLY

REVIEW INTERNALLY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION'S PERSPECTIVE,

REVIEW EXTERNALLY BY THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND IF

YOU WILL RECALL LAST YEAR, THAT'S ALSO THE KICKOFF FOR OUR

ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS WITH EACH OF YOU, TO INQUIRE AS TO WHAT

YOUR PRIORITIES ARE.

LAST YEAR EACH COUNCILMEMBER HAD AT LEAST ONE, ONE ON ONE

MEETING.

SOME OF YOU WANTED MORE SO WE HAD MORE.

YOU WILL ALSO RECALL YOU ADDED A BUDGET WORKSHOP LAST YEAR

IN AUGUST, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN.

THE FEEDBACK I GOT FROM THAT WORKSHOP WAS VERY POSITIVE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY USEFUL.

IT ALLOWED US TO TRANSITION FROM THE INITIAL ONE-ON-ONE

MEETINGS WITH YOUR INPUT TO MEET WITH YOU AGAIN AFTER YOU

RECEIVED THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET, AND ADDITIONAL.

FURTHER TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AS MR. JOHNSON

AND YOU ALL REFERENCED, THEY HAVE GOT A LONG HISTORY OF

PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT




EITHER ARE INCORPORATED INTO THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET,

OR EVENTUALLY ARE INCORPORATED AS YOU ADOPT THE BUDGET IN

SEPTEMBER.

WE WANT TO SEE THAT CONTINUE, AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE GOT

MORE THAN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF TIME TO PLAN FOR THAT

THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, SO WE CAN ALL ARRIVE AT THAT

DESTINATION WHERE THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FED IN -- AS MR.

VIERA POINTED OUT, YOU DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH THE CITIZENS

ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH THE

CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND COUNCIL WANT ALWAYS AGREE

WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, BUT AT LEAST IF WE SURFACE THE

INFORMATION, IF WE VETTED IT AND STICK TO IT FROM A

FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, THEN I THINK ALL PARTIES HAVE DONE

THEIR JOB.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK, THE WORK OF THE COMMITTEE, AND

PHILOSOPHICALLY WHERE WE ARE HEADING.

I WOULD ALSO BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THINK CHIEF OF STAFF FOR

HIS PARTICIPATION AND DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY MORRIS MASSEY.

HAVING SAID THAT, I'M PREPARED TO TAKE INPUT NOW, TAKE INPUT

ON WHAT YOUR OPERATORS ARE WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN

SHARING MORE INFORMATION WITH US, WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO

BEGIN MEETINGS, ET CETERA, AND BE PREPARED FOR THAT

THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS.

15:36:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:36:22 >>JOE JOHNSON:
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO NEED FROM A




COMMITTEE STANDPOINT IS A LITTLE MORE SUPPORT.

I THINK WE NEED, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WHO CAN KEEP UP WITH THE

MINUTES, OKAY.

WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A DESIGNATED PLACE TO

MEET.

SO WE NEED A LITTLE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT FOR THE

COMMITTEE.

RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ONE PERSON TRYING TO DO IT ALL,

IT'S A LITTLE CHALLENGING.

BUT IT GETS DONE, BUT I THINK ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE

COMMITTEE FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT, DEFINITELY --

15:37:12 >>> I WILL COLLABORATE WITH THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF STAFF,

CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE.

OF COURSE, THE CHAIR OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, AND LET'S SEE

WHAT WE CAN DO TO OFFER BETTER SUPPORT.

AGAIN, THE CITY IS GROWING.

I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

15:37:32 >> COUNCIL, I DO THANK YOU.

15:37:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT'S GOING TO RAIN IN THE NEXT 45

MINUTES.

YOU ARE GOING TO BE TRAPPED.

15:37:42 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WASN'T HERE WHEN THE COMMITTEE WAS

CREATED AND I AM NOT TRYING TO START A BIG FIGHT, BUT I

WONDER, YOU KNOW, IN TRYING TO PROMOTE COLLABORATION, COULD




WE MODIFY THE MAKEUP OF THE COMMITTEE TO ADD TWO APPOINTEES

FROM THE MAYOR?

OR IS THAT TOO DIFFICULT?

15:38:07 >> IF I CAN ADDRESS THAT.

THIS COMMITTEE WAS CREATED IN 2008 AND THE RESOLUTION WAS

ENDED IN 2011.

COUNCIL DIDN'T HAVE A COPY OF IT TODAY.

I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GOING TO GO THIS FAR IN DEPTH WITH

THAT.

BUT OBVIOUSLY AN ELEVEN-YEAR-OLD RESOLUTION NEEDS TO BE

REVISITED AND BROUGHT UP TO SPEED AND WE HAVE TO APPLY IT

CONSISTENTLY.

IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THE KIND OF SUPPORT THAT WAS TALKED

ABOUT, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS RAISED BY THE COMMITTEE,

IS THE FACT THAT IF YOU DO WANT TO MAKE IT WITH THE MAYORAL

APPOINTMENT, AND EXPAND THIS, AND GET THE SUPPORT YOU NEED,

YOU CAN CREATE THIS BY ORDINANCE AND MAKE THIS WITH THE

MAYOR'S CERTAINLY APPROVAL STANDING BOARD.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER.

RIGHT NOW, AS I RECALL -- AND I REMEMBER IN 2008, THIS WAS A

COMMITTEE CREATED BY CITY COUNCIL, AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE

SUPPORT WAS ALL TO BE PROVIDED BY CITY COUNCIL, AND THE

APPOINTEES WERE INDIVIDUALLY SELECTED BY CITY COUNCIL

MEMBERS.

15:39:06 >>BILL CARLSON:
AND IF WE WANTED TO MODIFY THE ORDINANCE --




15:39:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT'S NOT AN ORDINANCE, IT'S A RESOLUTION

OF CITY COUNCIL.

15:39:14 >> CAN WE INVITE THE MAYOR TO APPOINT TWO?

IF SHE DOESN'T WANT TO --

15:39:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT'S COUNCIL'S COMMITTEE.

COUNCIL CAN MAKE THAT AMENDMENT.

15:39:27 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MODIFY THE

RESOLUTION OF THE CREATION OF THAT COMMITTEE TO INVITE THE

MAYOR TO APPOINT TWO APPOINTEES TO THE COMMITTEE.

15:39:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A SECOND?

YES, SIR?

I DON'T THINK ANY SPECIFIC DATE CHIEF OF STAFF IS HERE AND

TAKE IT TO THE MAYOR AND SEE IF WE CAN --

15:39:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OKAY.

THIS IS SOMETHING I HADN'T DISCUSSED WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF

OR THE ADMINISTRATION OR THE COMMITTEE, THAT CERTAINLY

HASN'T GONE TO THE COMMITTEE YET.

15:39:56 >>BILL CARLSON:
IF THEY DECIDE NOT TO DO IT, THAT'S FINE.

15:39:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHY NOT DECIDE AT THE NEXT COMMITTEE

MEETING AND LET US KNOW?

MEET WITH THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AND SEE IF THEY WOULD BE

AGREEABLE FOR THE MAYOR TO HAVE TWO APPOINTEES, LET US KNOW

AND WE'LL MAKE THE OFFICIAL MOTION.

15:40:13 >> YESTERDAY ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS MADE A MOTION TO

THE FACT --




DID IT PASS?

15:40:27 >> I BELIEVE -- YOU KNOW WHAT?

IT'S PUT ON THE TABLE, BUT THERE WAS NOT A MOTION INTO IT.

SO WE WILL REVISIT IT ON MAY 4th.

15:40:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S DO THAT, REVISIT IT MAY 4th

AND COUNCILMEMBER MECHANICS GUDES --

15:40:49 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I CHANGE MY MOTION TO ADD A DISCUSSION

ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF TWO MAYORAL APPOINTEES TO THE

COMMITTEE?

15:40:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS IS DIRECTING YOU TO TELL YOUR

COMMITTEE, NOT A FORMAL MOTION BUT YOU COME BACK TO US AND

LET US KNOW AND WE CAN TAKE ACTION FROM THERE.

15:41:03 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN WE JUST ADD A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM?

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TO THE AGENDA ON MAY

4 --

15:41:11 >>> I HAVE AN AGENDA MAY 4th.

WE ARE HERE MAY 5th.

IT'S SEPARATE.

15:41:17 >>BILL CARLSON:
WHEN ARE THEY COMING BACK BEFORE US?

15:41:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THEY ARE NOT.

15:41:21 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I MAKE A MOTION WHILE HE'S HERE JUST TO

ADD TO MAY 10th, A DISCUSSION WITH STAFF ABOUT THE

POSSIBILITY OF ADDING TWO MAYORAL APPOINTEES TO THE BUDGET

COMMITTEE?

15:41:36 >> ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WILL SAY SINCE WE ARE ON THIS




TOPIC, WE ONLY GET TO BRIEF COUNCIL ONCE A YEAR.

AND I THINK THAT'S A DISSERVICE TO COUNCIL, BECAUSE YOU ARE

NOT WELL INFORMED AS TO THE PROGRESS OF THE COMMITTEE, AND

THE ADMINISTRATION WHEN WE MEET WITH THE DEPARTMENTS.

SO IT WOULD BE UP TO YOU -- I AM A QUARTERLY GUY.

OKAY, WE MEET MONTHLY AND WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE TO MONTHLY,

BUT AT LEAST QUARTERLY, WE CAN KEEP COUNCIL INFORMED AS TO

THE PROGRESS THAT THE CITIZENS BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE

IS MAKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, AND JUST KIND OF KEEP

COUNCIL INFORMED AS TO WHERE WE ARE AT.

SO I THINK --

15:42:25 >>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:42:27 >>BILL CARLSON:
DOES MY MOTION HAVE A SECOND OR NOT?

15:42:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU WANTED MAY 10th WITH THE

COMMENDATIONS?

15:42:33 >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M SORRY.

MAY 19th.

RETURN ON MAY 19th.

ASK STAFF TO RETURN ON MAY 19th TO DISCUSS THE

POSSIBILITY OF ADDING TWO MAYORAL APPOINTEES TO THE BUDGET

AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.

15:42:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MEANWHILE YOU ARE MEET WITH YOUR

COMMITTEE ON MAY 4th AND WE'LL HAVE INFORMATION AND

FEEDBACK FROM EVERYONE THERE.

WE HAVE A MOTION -- WAIT.




DO YOU HAVE A SECOND TO THAT?

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:42:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT BUT I DO

THINK IF THE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO MEET, WHATEVER

RECOMMENDATION THEY NEED TO FUNCTION AS A COMMITTEE, BECAUSE

THE RESOLUTION IS OUTDATED LOT, THEY CAN AT LEAST BE UPDATED

IN ORDER TO COME BACK WITH --

15:43:13 >>BILL CARLSON:
OKAY, AND ALONG -- ALONG WITH ANY OTHER

RECOMMENDED CHANGES.

15:43:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

15:43:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU GOT THAT?

OKAY.

15:43:30 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT THE BUDGET

PROCESS?

15:43:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THE

COLLABORATIVE PROCESS.

WE WENT INTO THE WEEDS.

15:43:38 >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK HE WAS JUST ASKING US.

MY QUESTION, CHIEF BENNETT, COULD YOU JUST TELL US, HOW MANY

TIMES DIABETES WE MEET LAST YEAR?

YOU ALL PRESENTED TO US BUT HOW MANY MEETINGS CAN DID WE

HAVE?




WHAT WAS THE PROCESS? I THOUGHT THE PROCESS YOU DID LAST

YEAR WAS GOOD.

SINCE WE CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER IN BETWEEN MEETINGS, I WAS

WONDERING IF ANYBODY WANTED TO MODIFY THAT PROCESS.

COULD YOU JUST TELL US QUICKLY WHAT YOU DID LAST YEAR AND

WHAT YOU RECOMMEND THIS YEAR?

15:44:03 >>JOHN BENNETT:
CHIEF OF STAFF.

EVERY YEAR SO FAR, WE HAVE TRIED TO INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITY

FOR SOME SORT OF ENGAGEMENT LOOKING AT WHAT I CALL THE TWO

CORNER STONES OF THE BUDGET, WHICH IS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE,

AN ENTERPRISE PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT.

LIKE HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GET A SUSTAINABLE LEVEL OF

SERVICE IN EVERY CORNER OF THE CITY AND EVERY FUNCTION THAT

CITY GOVERNMENT PROVIDES TO THEIR COMMUNITY?

AND SO THE SPIRIT OF WORKING WITH CHIEF ROGERO WAS TO LOOK

AT THE INTERNAL CLOCK OF THE BUDGET PREPARATION CYCLE AND

THEN FIGURE OUT WHERE THE OPPORTUNITIES EXIST FOR THE

CITIZENS GROUP, AS WELL AS COUNCIL, TO GIVE INPUT.

AND SOME OF THOSE INPUT WERE REALLY GOOD DRIVERS BECAUSE I

KNOW WHEN I FIRST CAME BACK TO THE CITY, WE INCREASED AN

OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUND

COMMUNITY AND GET A LOT OF INPUT FROM COUNCIL TO WORK ON

THOSE NONPROFIT GROUPS, TO SEE HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THEM,

BECAUSE THEY ARE FILLING A LOT OF GAPS, AND COUNCIL'S INPUT

WAS INVALUABLE ON THAT.




SO TO ANSWER THE CLOCK QUESTION, ACTUALLY CHIEF ROGERO PUT

TOGETHER KIND OF A TIMELINE ENGAGEMENT, AND I DEFER TO HIM

TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE SEQUENCING.

AND I THINK WE CAN AGAIN, AS I HEARD TODAY, IN THE TESTIMONY

OF THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE DO

NEED MORE LEAD TIME TO HAVE A BETTER MORE FLUID

PRESENTATION.

CHIEF ROGERO ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT THE BUDGET MIDPOINT REVIEW

WHICH SHOULD BE COMING UP.

THAT'S A GREAT CHANCE TO CYCLE IN THE BUDGET FINANCE

COMMITTEE TO SEE HOW WELL WE ARE IN SYNC FOR THE FIRST SIX

MONTHS OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF FY 22 AND THEN ALSO START THE

PLANNING FOR FY 23.

CHIEF, DO YOU WANT TO AUGMENT THAT THE?

REASONING ROGERO AS I SAID, IT REALLY IS A VERY GOOD TIME

BECAUSE WE WILL COMING TO YOU WITH THE MIDYEAR REVIEW NEXT

MONTH COINCIDING WITH THE NEXT MEETING OF THE CITIZENS

ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SOMEWHAT, AND THEN FROM THERE, IF YOU

WILL LAST YEAR, AGAIN WE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH

ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS.

AGAIN WE WANTED TO GET, AS CHIEF OF STAFF SAID, YOUR INPUT

AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AS WE CRAFTED NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS, THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, AS I

MENTIONED, BUT WE ALSO TOOK QUESTIONS AND PROVIDED ANSWERS.

AGAIN, I THINK I MENTIONED SOME OF YOU WANTED MORE THAN JUST




ONE MEETING, SO WE PROVIDED THAT, AS OFTEN AND AS FREQUENTLY

AS YOU WOULD LIKE.

PHILOSOPHICALLY, I WOULD PREFER MORE MEETINGS SO WE KEEP

ABREAST OF WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE AND WHAT THOSE

PRIORITIES REMAIN THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

NOT INTENDED TO AMBUSH ANYBODY AND CERTAINLY NOT YOUR

INTENT, I'M SURE, TO GIVE US INFORMATION TOO LATE INFORM US

TO EASILY ACT ON.

BUT AGAIN WE CAN BE VERY FLEXIBLE, MORE MEETINGS, WOULD YOU

LIKE EARLIER, OR MORE FREQUENT WORKSHOPS?

AND THAT'S WHY AGAIN I AM THANKFUL THIS MOTION OCCURRED

RIGHT NOW.

IT'S THE PEST TIME TO START DISCUSSING THAT.

15:47:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SO MUCH.

NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 72.

OCEA WYNN TO DISCUSS VILA BROTHERS PARK.

15:47:26 >>OCEA WYNN:
GOOD AFTERNOON.

WELCOME.

MA'AM, WELCOME.

I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

I SUBMITTED A REPORT REGARDING -- OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATIVE

COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.

I SUBMITTED A MEMO REGARDING VILA BROTHERS, AND I JUST

WANTED TO UPDATE COUNCIL ON WHAT HAS OCCURRED SINCE THE MEMO

WAS SUBMITTED LAST WEEK.




IT'S IN THE MEMO THAT WE WERE ON THE 29th WE WERE

MEETING WITH -- WE HAD SELECTED A CONSULTANT, ENGINEERING

CONSULTANT, FOR THE VILA BROTHERS PARK.

THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IN THE PARK WE HAVE DRAINAGE

ISSUES.

SO BEFORE WE START WITH THE REPAIRS, WITH THE PARK

IMPROVEMENTS, IT'S POWER THAT WE GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE

RIGHT.

SINCE THAT TIME, ON APRIL 1st, WE MET WITH THE MAYOR AND

THEN ON APRIL 4th DID A SITE ASSESSMENT SO EVERYONE WAS

ALIGNED WITH WHAT EXACTLY WAS GOING ON WITH THE

INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIRS.

WHAT WE WILL BE DOING, ONCE WE DO THE PARKS IMPROVEMENTS, WE

WILL PUT IN PICNIC SHELTERS, WE WILL HAVE LARGE AND SMALL

DOG PARKS, WE WILL HAVE AN EXERCISE TRAIL WITH THE EXERCISE

EQUIPMENT, WE WILL HAVE A PLAYGROUND AREA AND COURT

LIGHTING.

IN ADDITION TO BE THAT WE WILL DO THE COURT RESURFACING.

WE WILL HAVE AN ADA SIDEWALK ADDITIONS.

WHEN WE HAD THE ASSESSMENT LAST WEEK WE DID HAVE AN ADA SITE

ASSESSMENT AS WELL.

WE WILL BE REPLACING THE SAME FOOTPRINT OF THE EXISTING

BASKETBALL COURTS.

THOSE BASKETBALL COURTS, WE ARE GOING TO START WITH THE

NORTH END OF THE COURTS.




AFTER THE INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE IS DONE IN THAT AREA.

THEN CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGHOUT THE PARK.

WE WILL BE INSTALLING PICKLEBALL COURT AREAS, AND THEN WE

WILL BE REPLACING THE WEST END OF THE PARK WITH AN

ORNAMENTAL FENCE.

I WANTED COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN IN DISCUSSION

FOR A WHILE.

WHERE IT'S STARTING, THE ACTUAL MOTION ON GETTING THE PARK

REPAIRS DONE.

15:49:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.

AND IS THERE AN END DATE, A GOAL DATE FOR ALL THESE THINGS?

MY ISSUE IS, A COUPLE OF THINGS.

MS. MARTHA VILA'S HEALTH, I WANT HER TO SEE THIS WHILE SHE

IS WITH US.

I WAS HERE FOR JULIAN LANG AND THAT WAS A MOTHER'S DAY

WEEKEND DEADLINE AND IT GOT DONE.

THE HANNA PROJECT, THE WHOLE CITY CENTER, I THINK IS A YEAR

OUT, AND IT'S GOING TO GET DONE.

I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT AND WHATNOT.

BUT WITH THIS PARK, I MEAN, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE

CONSIDERING EVERYONE HAS BEEN VERY PATIENT.

I DID MY DUE DILIGENCE IN VOTING HOW I VOTE AND SUPPORT WHAT

I HAVE TO SUPPORT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THE FINANCING WAS

DONE WITH THIS.

BUT WHAT DO I TELL MRS. VILA?




15:50:52 >>OCEA WYNN:
SO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, AFTER WE HAVE THE

FINAL SITE ASSESSMENT REPORT FROM THE ENGINEER, WE DID THE

SITE WALK THROUGH LAST WEEK, I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE

ANSWER IN TERMS OF WHEN WE CAN ACTUALLY GET STARTED.

15:51:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THAT ASSESSMENT TO

BE FINISHED?

15:51:14 >>OCEA WYNN:
IF I CAN GET BACK WITH YOU AFTERWARDS AND LET

NOW AN UPDATE WHEN THAT WOULD BE FINISHED.

15:51:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF YOU COULD CONTACT MY OFFICE

DIRECTLY.

NO NEED TO COME HERE BUT I WILL COMMUNICATE WITH THE

NEIGHBORHOOD, I WILL COMMUNICATE WITH MRS. VILA AND GO FROM

THERE.

BUT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S LIFE AND DEATH AT THIS POINT.

I AM NOT TRYING TO BE DRAMATIC.

BUT IT WOULD BE AN HONOR, WOULD BE WONDERFUL FOR HER TO SEE

THE PARK AT LEAST TO CLOSE TO COMPLETION, WHATEVER, WHILE

SHE'S STILL WITH US.

I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

15:51:45 >>OCEA WYNN:
YES, SIR.

AND THE NEXT ITEM IS MINE AS WELL.

15:51:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WELL, COUNCILMAN VIERA, WE HAVE 73 IS

THE FIRE STATION.




WE HAVE A MEMO FROM THAT.

OKAY, YOU ARE HERE AS WELL.

YES, MA'AM.

15:52:07 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I JUST SAY THIS?

I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS, AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING ON THE VILA

BROTHERS PARK.

I THINK YOU KNOW THIS BUT ALL OF US ARE INTERESTED IN THIS

PARK.

IT'S NOT JUST A DISTRICT THING.

IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING FOR A LOT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE VILA

FAMILY BUT FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IN HONORING OUR VETERANS.

SO THANK YOU.

15:52:29 >>OCEA WYNN:
YES, SIR.

15:52:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 76.

15:52:32 >>OCEA WYNN:
THAT'S A MEMO, THE REQUEST WAS TO FORM A YOUTH

ADVISORY COUNCIL, AND I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

REGARDING THE MEMO.

15:52:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.

COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:52:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST GET THAT MEMO.

TELL ME ABOUT IT.

WYNN WITHIN YES, SIR, I WILL BE GLAD TO.

GLAD TO. IN RESPONSE TO THE -- OUR INTENT OR THE ASK TO

FORM A YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL, WHAT WE REPORTED, COUNCILMAN

GUDES, IS THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT UNDER MY




LEADERSHIP, WE FORM A PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COUNCIL.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS BE WE DID NOT SOLELY FOCUS ON INTERNAL

PARTNERS OR STAFF.

OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT WITH THE YMCA, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, THE

SKILLS CENTER, AS WELL AS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY'S PARKS AND

RECREATION DEPARTMENT, TEMPLE TERRACE, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,

AND PLANT CITY.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS FOR ALL OF US TO WORK

COLLABORATIVELY TO NOT ONLY ADVICE THE YOUTH SPORTS, BUT

SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES, THE EDUCATION, AND HOW WE ON BOARD

THE COACHES AND VOLUNTEERS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME

CONSISTENCY WITHIN THOSE PROCESSES, WE CAN LEARN FROM EACH

OTHER, AND WE CAN HAVE MORE OF AN ALIGNMENT.

PART OF THE INTENT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE AREAS WITHIN

OUR RESPECTIVE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE -- WHERE PEOPLE DO NOT

HAVE ACCESSIBILITY OR AFFORDABLE TO PARKS AND RECREATION

ACTIVITIES, THAT WE CAN IN FACT PROVIDE THAT TO THEM

THROUGH -- OR ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES THROUGH THE ADVICE OF

COUNCIL.

15:54:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE ON ACTIVITIES,

I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE TRYING TO GET A BIG SPECTRUM BUT THAT

WASN'T THE SPECTRUM I WAS LOOKING FOR AND THE DIRECTION I

WAS LOOKING FOR.

WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUTH SPORTS ISSUES.

AND THE BOYS ADD GIRLS CLUB, YMCA, THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF




THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE AT SOME OF OUR RECREATION

FACILITIES, WHERE SOME OF OUR OUTSIDE NONPROFIT

ORGANIZATIONS AS RELATES TO YOUTH SPORTS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH YOUTH SPORTS, BACKGROUND

ISSUES WE GET CALLS, I CALL ALL THE TIME ABOUT ISSUES,

FIELDS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS ARE GOING ON, A LOT OF

FIGHTS EVERYBODY HAPPENING.

NOT ENOUGH FIELDS.

PEOPLE ARE FIGHTING OVER FIELDS.;

SO DEALING WITH THE COUNTY, TEMPLE TERRACE, PLANT CITY, AND

ALL THOSE ENTITIES, I WAS LOOKING MORE OF A YOUTH SPORTS

COMMISSION TO WHERE YOU COULD ADDRESS LOCAL ISSUES.

THE BIGGER ISSUES, WE HAVE GOT SOME OTHER ISSUES AT THE

BOTTOM DOWN HERE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE

A LOT OF CHAOS WITHIN THE WHOLE COUNTY AS RELATES TO YOUTH

SPORTS.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF LOOKING FOR WHEN I TALK ABOUT A

YOUTH SPORTS COMMISSION, NOT A BIG, BIG ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

15:55:52 >>OCEA WYNN:
YES, SIR.

SO PART OF THAT ADVISORY COUNCIL IS TO HAVE THOSE

SUBCOMMITTEES WHO WILL ACTUALLY ADDRESS EDUCATION, OR

ADDRESS YOUTH SPORTS, THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS OF INTEREST.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE I'M ADDRESSING --

THAT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION OFFLINE, AND SO I CAN

INTEGRATE WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE INTO THE OVERALL --




OVERARCHING COMMUNITY, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE IN FACT

ADDRESSED.

15:56:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK THE PARKS AND REC, FOR THEIR

ASSISTANCE, THE SPORTS, WE MET YEARS AND YEARS AND WE PRETTY

MUCH KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT PRETTY MUCH KNOW WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AND NEED.

BUT WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK WE HAVE SOME

ISSUES THAT RELATES TO FOOTBALL, BASEBALL, SOME OF THE

ISSUES THAT WE ARE HAVING, AND STILL HEARING.

SO I JUST HOPE THAT THERE WILL BE A ROBUST DISCUSSION.

I KNOW THERE IS DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY

TRYING TO DO SOME THINGS AS PERTAINS TO YOUTH FOOTBALL

BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN COMING UP.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I AM FOCUSED ON.

A BIG BROADER PICTURE AS WELL, BUT THE BIG NEED IS DOWN AT

THE BOTTOM OF THE YOUTH SPORTS WYNN ONE YES, SIR.

15:57:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE NEXT THREE ITEMS ARE ALL FROM COUNCIL VIERA.

15:57:30 >>LUIS VIERA:
73, I DID A MOTION TO HAVE THAT COME BACK TO

US IN TWO MONTHS.

74 I AM FINE WITH THAT IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK ON THAT.

I THINK THE NUMBER SPEAKS FOR ITSELF AT THIS TIME.

AND 75, CHIEF TRIPP, I WAS TOLD YOU WEREN'T GOING TO BE

HERE.

GO AHEAD, MA'AM.




15:57:57 >>CHIEF TRIPP:
WELCOME, LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER VIERA, I DID SPEAK ON THIS ON THE LAST SPECIAL

MEETING CONCERNING THAT ZIP CODE PART OF THE MASTER PLAN

THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO FOR THE ENTIRE CITY AS

RESPONSE TIME.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO ADD THAT TO THAT OR JUST

CONTINUE.

THAT IS PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO

IMPLEMENT SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR THAT AREA TO

INCREASE THAT TIME.

15:58:27 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR YOUR WORK IN THAT

REGARD.

I'LL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS IN THE 8 WEEKS WHEN IT

COMES BACK TO US.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED LONG-TERM VISIONS FOR.

AGAIN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE WORKFORCE HOUSING IN WEST

TAMPA THAT'S COMING UP.

AND THEN THERE'S MORE ISSUES THAT REQUIRE MORE IMMEDIATE

TRIAGE, HELP AND RESPONSE, AND I THINK SOME OF THE LEADING

TIMES IN 33647 ARE FOR THAT AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE

SOMETIMES 11, 12, 13 MINUTES, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM

WRONG, IN THAT REGARD.

SO I KNOW THAT FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE WATCHING

THIS AND MAY HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS ISSUE, THERE'S A

COUPLE OF THINGS THAT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE IS LOOKING FOR,




WHICH IS, NUMBER ONE, LOOKING TO HAVE A CUT-THROUGH ACCESS

FROM MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD INTO K-BAR RANCH TO ADDRESS THOSE

TIMES, AND ADDITIONALLY FIRE STATION I GUESS IT WOULD BE 24,

WE HAVE GOT 23 IN 2019, I BELIEVE IT WAS, 25 IS ABOUT TO

COME UP FOR NORTH TAMPA, AND 24 WILL RESPECTFULLY BE FOR

K-BAR RANCH, AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOMETHING POTENTIALLY

AS IN MEDICAL UNIT ONLY THERE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE

ISSUES.

SO I DO WANT THIS TO COME BACK TO US RELATIVELY SOON.

AGAIN, JUST GIVEN THE URGENT HUMAN ISSUE HERE, I GUESS IF

YOU WILL.

SO THAT'S IT.

WE CAN HAVE THAT COME BACK IN THE EIGHT WEEKS AND GO FROM

THERE.

BUT I AM FINE FOR NOW.

AND THANK YOU, MA'AM.

15:59:59 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.

YES, SIR?

16:00:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS STAFF HERE --

16:00:08 >>> FOR 77, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

16:00:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF TRIPP.

16:00:16 >>STEVEN BENSON:
WELCOME, COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.

I THY BELIEVE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TO PULL UP, AND THE

PURPOSE IS TO REPORT BACK ON COUNCIL'S REQUEST THAT STAFF

AND THE COMMISSION LOOK INTO WAYS TO PROMOTE MORE MIXED USE




DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND I BELIEVE I WILL HAND IT OVER TO JAMES WITH THE PLANNING

COMMISSION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

16:00:44 >> JAY COLLINS WITH PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

STAFF IS HERE TODAY TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE THAT FRONT THAT MR.

BEN SON SPOKE OF.

NEXT SLIDE, THANK YOU.

ABOUT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

WE HAVE ACTUALLY PROVIDED A MEMO THAT WILL SPEAK TO IN A

LITTLE BIT.

WE ALSO PROVIDED ALREADY THE STUDY TO THIS BODY WHICH IS ON

FILE WITH YOU GUYS.

AGAIN, THIS IS GOING BACK TO THAT DECEMBER 2nd MEETING.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS AT THAT DECEMBER 2nd MEETING

WAS THE CITY OF FT. LAUDERDALE, WHICH DOES HAVE A MIXED USE

RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY, AND IT HAS A REQUIREMENT FOR A 10%

SET-ASIDE OF A SECOND USE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THAT ACTUAL CATEGORY HAS NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED WITHIN THE

CITY OF FT. LAUDERDALE.

IT EXISTS WITHIN ITS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT IT DOES NOT

EXIST ON THE LAND USE MAP.

SO IT IS NOT ACTUALLY BEING UTILIZED BY THE CITY OF




FT. LAUDERDALE TO TAKE IT ONE STEP FURTHER, THERE IS NOT

ACTUALLY ANY ZONING BOARD.

SO WE CALLED OUT THE CITY OF FT. LAUDERDALE, AND WE ASKED

THE QUESTION, SO WHAT'S UP?

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM

ABOUT POLICY WAS THE CITY OF FT. LAUDERDALE IMMEDIATELY

STARTED TALKING ABOUT THEIR ACTIVITY CENTERS, WHICH ACTUALLY

INCENTIVIZED MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND PROVIDED THE AREA FOR

THAT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT TO GROW.

THEY TALKED ABOUT THEIR TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.

THEY HAVE TROLLEY, HEAVY RAIL, THEY HAVE BRIGHT LINE,

STREETCAR THROUGH DOWNTOWN, THEY HAVE SOME BUS RAPID

TRANSIT.

SO THEY BASICALLY TOLD US THAT THEY HAVE AN INCENTIVE

PROGRAM AND THEY HAVE SOME SECONDARY PLAN AND THEY HAVE SOME

INFRASTRUCTURE MR. B WHERE THAT MIXED USE GOES.

THAT MIXED USE CATEGORY ACTUALLY WENT INTO THEIR PLAN IN

2005.

SO IT'S BEEN SITTING IN THERE FOR THAT LONG BUT IT IS NOT

ACTUALLY BEEN IMPLEMENTED.

OKAY.

LIKE ANY GOOD STUDENT WE SAID WHAT CAN WE TAKE FROM

FT. LAUDERDALE AND SEE HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY APPLY THAT IN THE

CITY OF TAMPA, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVEN'T APPLIED IT, WHAT CAN

WE DO?




SO WE KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THIS BODY IS INTERESTED IN IS

SOME SORT OF A THRESHOLD FOR MIXED USE.

SO WHEN YOU COME IN, YOU COME IN AND YOU SAY, I'M BRINGING

5% SECOND USE, 10% SECOND USE, WHY AM I BRINGING TO THE

CITY?

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT'S

PROVIDED IN THAT MEMO TO YOU, PROVIDED TO YOU IN A

STRIKE-THROUGH UNDERLINE FROM TAMPA'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THOUGH IS THE PROCESS OF HOW YOU

GO OUT HAVING THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS.

SO THE LANGUAGE IS OPTIONAL.

THE LANGUAGE IS NOT TO SAY WHETHER YOU ARE CONSISTENT OR

INCONSISTENT.

THIS IS A PROCEDURAL.

THE CONSISTENCY FINDINGS OF COMPATIBILITY ISSUES, THE USE

ISSUES AND OTHER THINGS.

THIS IS MORE OF A PROCEDURAL ISSUE.

THAT PROCEDURAL ISSUE WE TALK ABOUT IS WILL IN LAYMEN'S

TERMS TALK ABOUT THE SIZE OF A BUILDING.

THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING IS THE FLOOR AREA RATIO THAT YOU

HAVE THERE.

SO WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR SOME OF

THESE CATEGORIES THAT ARE IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR

DISTRICTS, COMMUNICATE COMMERCIAL 35, COMMUNITY MIXED USE




35, TODAY, ANYTIME YOU WANT TO GO FROM 1.5 TO A 2.0, THERE

ARE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IN THE

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO GET THERE.

ONE OF THEM IS TO PROVIDE MIXED USE.

HOWEVER, THERE IS NO THRESHOLD FOR WHAT THAT MIXED USE IS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PUTTING INTO THE PLAN HERE FOR YOU TO

GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK ON, IS THAT THRESHOLD.

SO THE IDEA OF IT WOULD BE IF I DON'T BEAT 5% OR THE 1500

SQUARE FEET, WHICHEVER IS GREATER, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU

ARE INCONSISTENT ON THE SURFACE OF THAT.

IT MEANS THAT YOU WOULD GO INTO WHAT THE CITY ALREADY DOES

TODAY, WHICH IS A BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE WAY IN WHICH THE CITY OPERATES ITSELF

AS IT MOVES FORWARD INTO THESE TWO LAND USES.

BASICALLY YOU ARE TIERING YOURSELF.

EVERY TIME YOU GO TO ANOTHER TIER THE CITY HAS ANOTHER TYPE

OF AGREEMENT IT WANTS YOU TO DO, OR OTHER PROVISIONS OF THE

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OR OF YOUR CODE THAT YOU MUST MEET.

SO THE LANGUAGE THAT IS OUT THERE TODAY FOR YOU IS ACTUALLY

ESTABLISHING A THRESHOLD.

IF YOU MEET THAT THRESHOLD WOULD YOU NOT HAVE TO GO INTO A

BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT.

AND WE HAVE TAKEN THIS ONE STEP FURTHER TO ACTUALLY EXPAND

THIS IDEA, NOT ONLY THE ARTERIALS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA

BUT ALSO THE COLLECTORS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHICH AGAIN




GIVES BETTER GUIDANCE ON FUTURE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN

OUR CITY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WHAT'S NEXT?

WE ARE HERE.

WE WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK.

OBVIOUSLY WE PROVIDED YOU SO STRIKE THROUGH UNDERLINE

LANGUAGE.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE US, WE LIKE THAT LANGUAGE,

LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT LANGUAGE, WHEN CAN YOU ACTUALLY

HAVE THAT WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN?

THAT WOULD BE SIX TO NINE MONTHS TO ACTUALLY DO A TEXT

ENDMENT.

IF YOU GO AND SAY THIS IS GOOD BUT I NOT GOING FAR ENOUGH,

WE HAVE SOME IDEAS IN WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THAT?

WE WOULD MOST LIKELY ROLL THAT INTO THE FUTURE LAND USE'S

UPDATE WHICH IS ONGOING RIGHT NOW, AND WOULD PROBABLY BE

COMING TO THIS BODY SOMETIME IN 2023.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

BASICALLY, WITH THAT, THAT IS THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION.

AND AGAIN MYSELF AND MR. BEN SON OR MRS. GARANTIVA ARE

AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

16:06:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.

I KNEW YOU AND MR. BENSON COULD COME TO US WITH SOME

DIRECTIVE.




THIS WHOLE SUBJECT OF ME STARTING WITH A FORMER COUNCILMAN

AND MYSELF SAYING, OKAY, WE HAVE A DEVELOPER COMING IN, SAID

THEY WANT THE TERM MIXED USE ON THEIR BUILDINGS, AND THEY

HAVE A 30,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, BUT THEY ARE ONLY HAVING

500 SQUARE FOOT OF RETAIL.

TO ME THAT WASN'T MIXED USE.

THEN MY THOUGHT AS ALWAYS, HOW DO WE MAKE OUR COMMUNITY MORE

WALKABLE, MORE BIKEABLE, WHEN YOU BUILD A BUILDING, AND

AFTER YOU GET HOME YOU HAVE TO GET BACK IN YOUR CAR TO GO

OUT AND DO SOMETHING ELSE.

GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, RESTAURANT, SMALL SHOP, THAT IS THE

IDEA TO KEEP THE PEOPLE WALKING AND BIKING, IF NOT ON A

SCOOTER.

CASE IN POINT.

SPT JUST OPENED UP.

THEIR GROUND FLOOR RETAIL IS 100% LEASED.

IT'S NOT ALL BUILT OUT YET, BUT WHERE THE DENSITY IS, WHERE

THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO, THE GROUND FLOOR MIXED USE IS

GOING TO BE A NECESSITY.

NOW GOING BACK TO MY PRAYER STATEMENT.

DEFINING MIXED USE.

AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING A LEVEL IN THERE.

IN MY OPINION, IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO COME BEFORE US AS A

MIXED USE, THERE SHOULD BE THAT THRESHOLD THAT THEY SHOULD

HAVE TO MEET AND ADD THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO PRESENT TO US ON




THE REASONS WHY THAT THRESHOLD CAN'T BE MET.

I'M AT A DEAD-END ROAD, THE DENSITY IS NOT QUITE THERE FOR

IT YET.

SO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS, A LOT OF

MY CONCERNS, AND I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS THRESHOLD

CONCEPT, BUT I STILL FEEL THAT BURDEN OF PROOF SHOULD BE MET

BY THE DEVELOPERS.

16:08:30 >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.

THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

I AM GOING TO PICKY BACK A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT COUNCILMAN

CITRO SAID.

I THINK THRESHOLD IS GREAT.

MY QUESTION IS NINE TO FIVE AND NOT TEN.

16:08:42 >> THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

SO CURRENTLY ON OUR WORK WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, CURRENTLY A

LOT OF WHAT YOU ARE GETTING IS COMING IN AROUND TWO AND A

HALF TO THREE PERCEPT ON THE MIXED USE.

WE WENT TO FIVE%.

IT'S AN ASK ABOVE WHAT THE MARKET IS BRINGING.

BUT AGAIN THE 5% THRESHOLD IS TO GET YOU OUT OF ACTUALLY

GOING INTO THAT BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT.

AND MA'AM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ALSO, THE 1500 SQUARE

FEET, THAT'S COMING FROM COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE

PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE TELLING US WHAT'S THE BASIC ENTRY

LEVEL THAT'S USABLE SPACE FOR THE MARKET?




16:09:18 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK MY CONCERN IS THAT THAT'S GREAT THAT

WE ARE JUST TRYING TO DO STEPS, BUT THIS CITY IS MOVING SO

MUCH FASTER THAT I'M AFRAID THAT IF WE START -- IF 5% IS THE

PORTION WITHIN FIVE YEARS, WE ARE GOING TO 15.

16:09:40 >> BY ALL MEANS, IF THE MARKET BEARS THAT, THE MARKET CAN

BEAR THAT, BECAUSE AGAIN AS WHAT COUNCILMAN CITRO ALLUDED TO

THE ENTIRE BOTTOM FLOOR IS FULL IN THAT AREA, SO IF THE

MARKET BEARS THAT IT SHOULD ACTUALLY HAVE 5%, 8%, 15%, 20%,

BUT WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS A MINIMUM OF 5 GETS YOU OUT OF THE

BON US PROVISION AGREEMENT, AND THAT IS IRRESPECTIVE TO

WHERE YOU ARE IN THE CITY AS WELL.

BECAUSE WE DID NOT LOOK AT THIS AS A REAL ESTATE

PROFESSIONAL WHO MIGHT SAY ONE DEVELOPMENT IS HOTTER THAN

ANOTHER.

AGAIN A LAND USE PLANNER, NOT REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS.

16:10:20 >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOULD YOU CONSIDER POSSIBLY HAVING HIGHER

PERCENTAGE FOR THOSE MAIN ROADS VERSUS A SMALLER FOR

ARTERIALS? IS THAT A POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION?

16:10:35 >> YES, MA'AM.

THIS IS PART OF THIS CONVERSATION IS TO GET THAT TYPE OF

FEEDBACK FROM THIS GROUP.

YES.

16:10:40 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT.

THANK YOU.

16:10:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU FOR THAT.




AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE BURDEN OF PROOF, IF WE SET IT

HIGHER, PETITIONERS CAN ALWAYS COME IN AND SAY, WE CAN'T

MEET THAT STANDARD NOW.

AND I SEE MR. BENSON SHAKING HIS HEAD NO.

BUT THAT IS STILL MY OPINION.

IF THE DEVELOPER MEETS THE BURDEN OF PROOF, WHETHER OR NOT

THE DENSITY IS NOT THERE NOW, THAT'S FINE.

BUT I THINK WE SHOULD SET OUR STANDARD A LITTLE HIGHER IN

ANTICIPATION TO THE RAPID GROWTH IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

16:11:16 >> I APOLOGIZE.

A CLARIFICATION THAT THIS WOULD JUST BE FOR PROJECTS THAT

SEEK TO MOCKIZE THEIR DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL SO YOU WILL

STILL GET PROJECTS THAT COME UNDER ONE.

THAT'S HOW THEIR LAND USES ARE EXTRAORDINARY.

THEY ARE INCENTIVES, NOT REQUIREMENTS ACROSS THE BOARD.

THAT'S WHY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS GOING FIND IN THEIR

RESEARCH.

WE ARE JUST NOT -- I THINK THAT IN PRINCIPAL WE AGREED THAT

THE MORE FIXING OF USES, ASSUMING YOU CAN ACTUALLY FILL

THOSE SPACES THE BETTER, BUT THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS OF

EACH PROJECT.

AND DEPENDING ON WHERE THE PROJECT IS LOCATED, IF IT'S ON AN

ARTERIAL ROADWAY, IF IT'S REALLY ISOLATED AND DOESN'T TOUCH

THE ARTERIAL EXCEPT FOR A SMALL PIECE, DOES THAT PROJECT

HAVE TO PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF A PROJECT THAT'S MAYBE AT




A CROSSROADS?

SO I AM NOT SURE WE ARE ABLE TO SOLVE THAT WITH THIS F.A.R.

AND OTHER MEASURES LIKE LOOKING AT PARKING, LOOKING AT SOME

OF THE PROVISIONS IN THE CODE THAT SPEAK TO THE REQUIREMENTS

AND DESIGN STANDARDS.

THERE ARE LOTS OF WAYS, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A

REASONABLE START BUT ALSO HAPPY TO LOOK AT HIGHER AMOUNTS

AND COME BACK.

16:12:32 >>BILL CARLSON:
TO COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK, I KNOW YOU ARE IN

NEIGHBORHOOD AND PLANNING AND EVERYTHING.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF ARE OUTSTANDING AND YOU

PROBABLY KNOW A BUNCH OF THEM, BUT THEY WILL STILL MEET WITH

YOU WHENEVER YOU WANT.

MOSTLY WE HEAR FROM THEM ABOUT LAND USE ISSUES AND THEY ARE

SO MUCH MORE CAPABLE THAN THAT, AND THEY HAVE REALLY GOOD

IDEAS, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND GOING AND LISTENING TO THEM.

AND STEVEN BENSON JUST JOINED IN THIS POSITION AND HE'S

OUTSTANDING, TOO.

THE CFO, AND CHIEF OF STAFF, I WOULD PUT MONEY INTO TWO OR

THREE MORE PEOPLE LIKE STEVEN BEN SON.

IN YOU DO THAT WE'LL TRANSFORM THIS CITY, TAKE HIS VISION

AND PUT OTHER PEOPLE LIKE THAT IN THERE, WE WILL REALLY HELP

THIS CITY.

MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, AT THE END OF YOUR DOCUMENT, YOU KIND

OF -- MAKE A MOTION FOR A NEXT STEP?




WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO?

16:13:28 >> SO WE JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH

STRIKE-THROUGH UNDERLINE LANGUAGE.

WE THOUGHT THAT WAS PART OF WHAT YOU WANTED.

THE WORD WAS, WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP?

SO WE PROVIDED YOU WITH SOME LANGUAGE TO PONDER ON, TO CHEW

ON, AND I HAVE ALREADY HEARD A COUPLE OF FOLKS ASK FOR A

LITTLE BIT ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION TO THAT LANGUAGE.

SO WITH THAT IN MIND, STAFF CAN GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE THIS

CONVERSATION.

THAT WOULD BE ROLLED INTO THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, SO

AGAIN THAT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME BACK TO

THIS BODY IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AS A PLAN AMENDMENT.

THIS WHICH IS IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW CAN COME BACK IN A

COUPLE MONTHS AS A PLAN AMENDMENT BUT IF I ROLL IT INTO THE

FUTURE LAND USE UPDATE THAT IS A MUCH LARGER PROCESS, AND

THIS IS JUST ONE PART OF A MUCH LARGER PROCESS.

16:14:21 >>BILL CARLSON:
COUNCILMEMBER CITRO, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE

THE MOTION TO SCHEDULE THE MEETING?

16:14:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS OUT OF THE ROOM.

IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION, SURE.

16:14:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?

16:14:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[OFF MICROPHONE]

16:14:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THERE A MOTION?

16:14:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[OFF MICROPHONE]




16:14:53 >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST COME BACK TO US?

16:14:55 >> IF YOU DON'T MAKE A MOTION THEN WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK

ON THIS AND ROLL THIS INTO THE UPDATE FOR THE FUTURE --

16:15:03 >>> ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT AS IS AND YOU WILL BE DOING THAT WORK

ANYWAY.

16:15:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A MOTION THAT

SOMETHING BE BROUGHT BACK AT A TIME CERTAIN.

16:15:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HOW FAR DOWN THE ROAD?

16:15:20 >> WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR A MOTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS

SHOULD BE A STAND-ALONE AMENDMENT OR SHOULD GO WITH THE PLAN

UPDATE, WHICH WE PRESENTED TO YOU RECENTLY.

SO WE CAN TAKE WHAT WE HAVE NOW, TRY TO MASSAGE IT BASED ON

THE GUIDANCE PROVIDED AND WE CAN PUT IT ON THAT DOCKET FOR

THE PLAN UPDATE.

16:15:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM?

16:15:43 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

YOU DID HAVE A GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP COMING UP ON JUNE

23rd.

SO WE CAN BRING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO YOU AT THAT TIME.

16:15:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COME BACK JUNE 23rd?

16:15:58 >> THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.

PLEASE AND THANKS.

16:16:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY?

16:16:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CAN WE RESTATE THE MOTION?




BECAUSE IT PRESENTLY STATES FOR ITEM NUMBER 77, BASED ON

INCENTIVES BASED ON THE FT. LAUDERDALE MODEL AND I DON'T

THINK THAT TO THE PUBLIC IS VERY SPECIFIC.

SO IF WE CAN JUST REFRAME THE MOTION --

16:16:19 >> BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS GIVEN TO US TODAY IN THIS

MEETING, WE WOULD LIKE FOR THIS TO COME BACK ON JUNE

23rd.

16:16:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND THIS IS CALLED WHAT SPECIFICALLY?

16:16:31 >>BILL CARLSON:
MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT MINIMUM THRESHOLD.

16:16:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.

16:16:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS TO DISCUSS, AND THAT IS REGARDING THE

CHARTER REVIEW WORKSHOP AND THE ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEETINGS.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE NOT VOTED ON 67 THROUGH 71.

STAFF WAS NOT ASKED TO BE PRESENT ON THIS.

THESE ARE MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR ITEMS.

FOR ITEM 67 MAY I HAVE SOMEONE MOVE THE RESOLUTION?

MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?




ITEM NUMBER 68.

MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

ITEM NUMBER 69.

MOVED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

ITEM NUMBER 70 IS PART 1 OF 2.

MOVED BY CITRO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

OPPOSED?

AND ITEM 271.

MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

ALL RIGHT.

I SEE MS. FEELEY IN THE ROOM.

AND WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS -- ADDITIONAL CITY COUNCIL

MEETINGS TO ADDRESS THE SUBSTANTIAL BACKLOG IN LAND USE

HEARINGS.

YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.




16:17:57 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME, COUNCILMAN

WOMAN HURTAK.

VERY NICE TO HAVE YOU.

WE ARE HERE TODAY, I WAS HERE LAST WEEK TO DISCUSS WITH YOU

ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR MEETINGS.

I DID FILE A MEMO AND PROVIDED SOME OPPORTUNITIES.

WE HAD A BRIEF DISCUSSION LAST WEEK, AND HAPPY TO MAKE THE

MOTION TO COME BACK TODAY TO DISCUSS THE ACTUAL DATES THAT

WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING ADDING THOSE CASES.

16:18:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, IF

ANYONE HAS LOOKED AT THE DATES?

I'M HAPPY WITH ANYTHING, I'M OPEN, IF THERE'S ANYTHING

SPECIFIC.

16:18:39 >>BILL CARLSON:
I LIKE THE THURSDAY DATES.

16:18:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE DONE THEM --

16:18:48 >>LUIS VIERA:
I NEED TO SEE THEM AGAIN.

I'M SO SORRY.

16:18:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE ALTERNATE EVERY OTHER THURSDAY.

WE HAVE A NIGHT MEETING IN THAT GAP.

WE'LL HAVE THREE THURSDAY EVENING MEETINGS IN A ROW.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND THE FOURTH THURSDAY IS FREE, EVENING.

16:19:04 >> IT WAS UP TO YOU WHICH ADDITIONAL NIGHT YOU WOULD LIKE TO

ADD.

RIGHT NOW YOU DO NOT MEET IN THE EVENING ON THE FIRST




THURSDAY AND THE THIRD THURSDAY.

16:19:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'M HAPPY WITH THE FIRST THURSDAY

BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE ARE TYPICALLY ALCOHOL MEETINGS.

THE LAND USE ARE MORE EXPANSIVE.

BUT I THINK THE FIRST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH.

16:19:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I SECOND.

I AGREE WITH YOU THERE.

16:19:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT SAYS ALCOHOL BEVERAGE.

16:19:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUST SAYING ONE THURSDAY OF THE NIGHT

IS ALCOHOL BEVERAGE AND THE OTHER IS LAND USE.

THIS WOULD BE A LAND USE SO WE WOULD HAVE TWO LAND USE

HEARINGS, EVENING HEARINGS, AND ONE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE.

16:19:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COULD YOU JUST --

16:19:50 >>BILL CARLSON:
COULD YOU TELL US THE DATES?

IT WAS ONLY SIX TIMES?

16:19:53 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
IT WAS ONLY FOR AN ADDITIONAL FOUR

HEARINGS.

IT WAS JUNE, YOU CAN HAVE EITHER THE FIRST OR THIRD THURSDAY

IN JUNE.

AND I RAN OVER TLMB.

AND THEN IT WAS AUGUST, OCTOBER, AND DECEMBER.

DECEMBER WAS YOUR ONLY ONE WHERE IT WOULD ONLY END UP BEING

TWO HEARINGS BECAUSE YOU ALREADY --

16:20:17 >>> WE HAVE A WINTER BREAK COMING UP AND WHATNOT.

SO EVERY OTHER MONTH.




16:20:20 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THAT SCHEDULE.

16:20:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM CARLSON.

SECOND FROM HURTAK.

ALL IN FAVOR?

MR. SHELBY?

16:20:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

AGAIN THE START IS 5:01 P.M.

IS THAT CORRECT?

16:20:37 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
YES, SIR, 5:01 P.M.

16:20:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE OTHER QUESTION I THINK IT WAS

COUNCILMAN MEMBER VIERA TALKED ABOUT THE CONTINUATION OR NOT

OF THE TUESDAY COMMENDATION MEETINGS.

16:20:47 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, YES.

I WOULD SUGGEST, JUST SO WE RESPECT COUNCIL MEMBERS' TIMES,

BECAUSE A LOT OF US HAVE OTHER PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYMENT,

ET CETERA, ET CETERA, THAT THE LAST --

16:21:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ORIGINALLY IT WAS EASIER TO PULL IT OFF.

OH, IT'S ON THIS ENTIRE CALENDAR.

16:21:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BUT WHICH IS THE LAST -- I THINK IT WAS

JUNE OR MAYBE EVEN --

16:21:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I BELIEVE THAT COUNCILMEMBER CITRO'S

REPRESENTATIVE AIDE HAS PUT ON THROUGH, LET'S SAY, AUGUST,

INCLUDING CITY EMPLOYEES?

16:21:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
EXCLUDING THE LAST ONE, IT LOOKS LIKE.

THANK YOU.




TAKE A LOOK.

ACTUALLY IT'S APRIL.

APRIL.

16:21:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SO ACTUALLY THE ONLY COMMENDATIONS ARE

NEXT MONTH, NEXT TUESDAY.

THEN AFTER THAT, ACCORDING TO THIS CALENDAR, UNLESS ANY

COUNCILMEMBER SET IT, MADAM CLERK, I DON'T SEE ANY

COMMENDATIONS FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE POLICE OFFICER,

THE FIREFIGHTER, AND THE ATU.

16:22:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND THAT YOU SAID IN JUNE --

16:22:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAY.

16:22:08 >>LUIS VIERA:
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, AND LET ME KNOW TO

MITIGATE SOME OF THAT, IS MAYBE WE DO THE MAY AND THEN

BEGINNING IN JUNE WE PUT THAT OFF UNTIL DECEMBER, AND THEN

WE JUST HAVE POLICE AND FIRE AND ATU DURING REGULAR

HEARINGS, AND THEN WE SEVERELY LIMIT OTHER COMMENDATIONS,

AND --

[ LAUGHTER ]

EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT ME.

EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT ME.

MAYBE I AM PREACHING TO MY OWN CHOIR HERE.

16:22:37 >>BILL CARLSON:
LIMITED TO FOUR OR FIVE EACH PER YEAR.

DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION?

[ LAUGHTER ]

16:22:54 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]




16:22:56 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

BUT IF YOU WANTED TO JUST TAKE THOSE DAYS OFF, WHY NOT EVERY

MONTH THAT WE HAVE AN EXTRA LAND USE MEETING, WE DON'T HAVE

COMMENDATIONS, AND THEN THE OTHER MONTHS, JULY, WE DO HAVE A

COMMENDATION ON TUESDAYS.

THEN IT'S THE SAME DAYS FOR US IN TERMS OF MEETINGS.

16:23:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUNE IS WHEN WE BEGIN THE EXTRA NIGHT

MEETING, RIGHT?

16:23:24 >> I AM GOING TO READ OFF TO YOU WHAT THOSE DATES ARE GOING

TO BE BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE AN AUDIENCE JUST DYING TO KNOW --

16:23:31 >>> MAY, TUESDAY COMMENDATIONS.

JUNE WILL NOT.

JULY HAS IT.

SO EVERY OTHER MONTH THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT EXTRA THURSDAY,

WE'LL HAVE THAT TUESDAY COMMENDATIONS.

16:23:42 >>LUIS VIERA:
AND IF I MAY, THE ONLY COMMENDATIONS WHAT I

VIEW WOULD CONTEMPLATE IN COUNCIL DURING THAT TIME, DURING

MEETING REGS MEETINGS, WOULD BE POLICE, FIRE AND ATU.

EVERYTHING ELSE --

16:23:54 >>> CITY EMPLOYEES AND WHATNOT.

THAT'S GREAT.

16:23:57 >> THE FOUR DATES WOULD BE JUNE 2nd, AUGUST 4th,

OCTOBER 6th -- SORRY.

16:24:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUNE 2nd.

AND THE JUNE 7th IS CANCELED, IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?




THE JUNE 7th COMMENDATION.

16:24:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE JUNE 7th COMMENDATION DAY WILL

BE CANCELED BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO GO FROM MAY TO JUN JULY

WITH THAT COMMENDATION.

16:24:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
GO AHEAD PLEASE.

16:24:26 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
JUNE 2nd AT 5:01 P.M. WOULD BE THE

FIRST ONE.

AUGUST 4th AT 5:01 P.M. WOULD BE THE SECOND.

AND THAT MONTH, YOU ARE AT FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES THE

SECOND WEEK, SO YOU DO HAVE THE PRESENTATION COMMENDATION ON

THE 16th.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CANCEL THAT NOW OR NOT.

WE ARE KIND OF TAG TEAM BOTH ITEMS RIGHT NOW.

16:24:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CITRO IS FLORIDA LEAGUE OF

CITIES AMBASSADOR HERE.

16:25:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WELLS, BUT IT'S A TUESDAY.

SO THE QUESTION IS --

16:25:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE WILL BE ONE COUNCILMEMBER SHORT.

16:25:10 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
NO, YOU HAVE NO MEETING THE WEEK OF FLORIDA

LEAGUE OF CITIES.

16:25:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO

WHAT YOU SAID TO CANCEL EVERY COMMENDATION, WANT TO KEEP

THAT THE 16th IN AUGUST.

THAT'S TUESDAY.

THAT'S THE QUESTION.

16:25:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HE WILL BE AT FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES

IF WE HAVE A TUESDAY COMMENDATION.

16:25:34 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
IT'S SCHEDULED THE TUESDAY AFTER.

16:25:37 >> BUT IT WOULDN'T BE BECAUSE IT WILL NOW IN SEPTEMBER IF WE

ARE DOING TUESDAY -- SO THE TUESDAY COMMENDATION WOULD BE

JULY.

AND NOVEMBER.

16:25:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SO CANCEL THE 16th OF AUGUST FOR

COMMENDATION TO BE CONSISTENT.

16:25:53 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
YES.

16:25:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I UNDERSTAND.

16:25:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT TAKES CARE OF AUGUST, MRS. FEELEY?

16:26:00 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THE THIRD ADDITIONAL EVENING WOULD BE

OCTOBER 6th.

16:26:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SEPTEMBER THE SAME.

THEN OCTOBER AT 5:01.

THEN YOU HAVE THAT TUESDAY THE 11th, THE COMMENDATION.

AND --

16:26:15 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THAT WOULD BE MOVED TO NOVEMBER.

16:26:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT THE COMMENDATIONS

FOR THAT MONTH THAT HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED WOULD THEN BE, IF I

UNDERSTAND MR. VIERA'S POSITION, WOULD BE THEN PUT ON A

REGULAR DAY, BUT IT'S ONLY THE CITY EMPLOYEES.

SO IT'S NOT THAT YOU LOSE THAT MONTH FOR GIVING THOSE

COMMENDATIONS.

THEY JUST GO TO A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

16:26:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ATU, POLICE AND FIRE.

16:26:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CLERK WHO IS GOING

TO PREPARE THE CALENDAR GETS IT.

VERY GOOD.

COUNCILMAN CITRO'S OFFICE IF HE'S FINE WITH THAT.

16:26:57 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THEN THE LAST ONE WOULD BE DECEMBER

1st.

SO THEN IN DECEMBER YOU WOULD HAVE THREE IN A ROW BUT YOU

ARE OFF THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

SO DECEMBER 1st AT 5:01 P.M. WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL

HEARING NIGHT.

AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE AGAIN THE REGULAR 8th AND THE

15th.

16:27:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND WOULD YOU CANCEL THE 6th WHICH IS

A TUESDAY.

16:27:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT IS CORRECT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT?

MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

THAT WAS EASIER THAN I THOUGHT.

16:27:34 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

16:27:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND THE FINAL ITEM OF THE DAY IS YOURS,

MR. SHELBY.

AND THIS IS TO DISCUSS THE CHARTER REVIEW WORKSHOP AND THE

FACILITATOR, AND WHAT DATE WORKS BEST FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS,

NOW THAT WE HAVE A FULL COUNCIL.

16:27:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NOW THAT YOU HAVE A FULL COUNCIL I HAD THE

OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU EITHER PERSONALLY OR THROUGH

YOUR OFFICE TO CONFIRM THE DATES.

I WILL TELL YOU BECAUSE APRIL IS FILLED UP WITH ALREADY

NOTICED PUBLIC HEARINGS, ONE OF THE MAJOR CHALLENGES WAS

HAVING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THIS ROOM.

OBVIOUSLY WE WANT THIS TELEVISED AND COVERED.

THE DATE, THE DAY OF THE WEEK THAT SEEMED TO WORK BEST IN

MAY WAS MONDAY, AND I CHECKED THREE DATES IN MAY, AND THE

DATE WHERE THE ROOM IS AVAILABLE, EVERY COUNCILMEMBER'S

OFFICE OR THE COUNCILMEMBER HAS MADE THEMSELVES AVAILABLE TO

BE AVAILABLE ON THAT DATE, AND THE FACILITATOR AVAILABLE, IS

MAY 23rd.

16:28:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THAT FROM 9 A.M. TO 12?

16:28:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, IT IS.

16:28:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO THREE HOURS MAY 23rd IN THESE

CHAMBERS.

16:28:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.

IT'S A MONDAY.

AND KEEPING MY FINGERS CROSSED THAT EVERYBODY CAN MAKE IT

BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE CANCELLATION AND THAT

WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE FACILITATOR MAKING THEMSELVES

AVAILABLE, NOT ON THAT DATE BUT ON WHATEVER DATE IT MAY BE

SCHEDULED.

16:28:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY, THAT IS A PERFECT DATE.

16:28:56 >>BILL CARLSON:
SO MOVED.

16:28:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND

BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

MAY 23rd, 9 A.M. TO 12 IN THESE CHAMBERS.

16:29:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP.

16:29:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TO DISCUSS THE CHARTER REVIEW WORKSHOP.

16:29:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WELL, NOT CHARTER REVIEW, JUST SPECIAL

CALL WORKSHOP ON THE CHARTER.

BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT A REVIEW.

16:29:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAY 23rd, MONDAY, 9 A.M. TO 12 IN

THESE CHAMBERS.

16:29:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ALSO, COUNCIL, I AM GOING TO SEND OUT AN

EMAIL WITH REGARD TO THAT, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT YOUR OFFICE

MAKE SURE YOU HAD THAT IN YOUR CALENDAR PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

16:29:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.

WE GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS.

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

16:29:38 >> NOTHING.

16:29:41 >>CHAIRMAN:
A COUPLE THINGS.

THERE WAS CONFUSION TODAY ON THE USF STUDENT GOVERNMENT

FOLKS WHO I THINK ARE GOING TO BE COMING, AND THEY ARE

ACTUALLY GOING TO BE COMING WITH THE CONSENT OF THIS COUNCIL

ON APRIL 21st.

AND I WOULD MOTION FOR USF STUDENT GOVERNMENT INSTEAD OF

COMING TODAY TO JUST TO BE BRIEFLY RECOGNIZED FOR A MINUTE

AT THE START OF THE MEETING ON THAT DAY.

16:30:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

YES, SIR.

16:30:06 >>LUIS VIERA:
THEN I WAS DOING SOME READING AND I SAW THAT

THE FIRST WOMAN APPARENTLY WHO CAME ONTO TAMPA POLICE

DEPARTMENT WAS LENORA ANNE BOOTH, ACTUALLY THE LATE MOTHER

OF CLARA REYNOLDS FROM THE CRISIS CENTER IN 1973 WHICH NEXT

YEAR WOULD BE 50 YEARS THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS HAD

WOMEN OFFICERS.

SO I WANTED TO MOTION TO REQUEST THE ADMINISTRATION FOR SOME

SORT OF MEMORIAL OR SOMETHING FOR FIFTY YEARS OF WOMEN

POLICE OFFICERS BEGINNING WITH LENORA ANNE BOOTH.

AND SINCE THAT'S NEXT YEAR I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT DURING

WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH IF POSSIBLE IN MARCH OF 2023.

AND THAT MAYBE THEY CAN COME BACK WITH AN IDEA FOR US IN,

GOSH, MR. SHELBY, CAN WE SCHEDULE IN OCTOBER?

OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.

16:31:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE THE CALENDAR HERE FOR OCTOBER.

CITY COUNCIL REGULAR SESSIONS OCTOBER 20th UNDER STAFF

REPORTS.

16:31:12 >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S FINE.

16:31:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
UNDER STAFF REPORTS, OCTOBER 20th

WILL BE THE DATE: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

ANYTHING ELSE?

16:31:24 >>LUIS VIERA:
NO, SIR.

THANK YOU.

16:31:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT WAS A GREAT MOTION, IT IS.

ABSOLUTELY.

IN 1971, THE FIRST WOMAN ON CITY COUNCIL.

1973, FIRST WOMAN POLICE OFFICER.

SO GOOD.

LEGALITY THEM BE ACKNOWLEDGED.

THEY DESERVE IT.

16:31:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

MANY OF YOU KNOW I AM ON THE TABLE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL

AND THIS LAST TWO DAYS THERE HAS BEEN A REGIONAL SUMMIT FOR

RESILIENCY, AND I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT CITY OF TAMPA

AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WON TOP HONORS.

JUST TO NAME A FEW, TAMPA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WON THE

HERMAN W. TONER AWARD.

THE BUILD ENVIRONMENT AWARD WENT TO HARVEST OAK PARK

INVESTMENT PLUS VISION EQUALS CHANGE.

AND THAT WAS PART OF THE UNIVERSITY AREA CDC GRADUATION,

SARAH CULP ON THAT AWARD.

ALSO THE COMMUNITY PREPAREDNESS AND RESILIENCY AWARD WENT TO

HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CITY TAMPA PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THE

EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY WON THE MOBILITY AWARD.

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE AWARD WINNERS AT THIS YEAR'S

RESILIENCY CONFERENCE.

CONGRATULATIONS.

WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY MOTION.

TO HAVE THE SUSTAINABILITY AND THE RESILIENCY OFFICER TO

APPEAR BEFORE COUNCIL TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE RESILIENCY

ACTION PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED LAST MAY AND DISCUSS THE

PROGRESS THAT WE HAVE MADE AND THE UPCOMING PROJECTS AND

OBJECTIVES.

AND ON THAT DATE, COUNCIL, MR. CHAIR, I AM LOOKING AT EITHER

MAY 19th OR MAY 5th, WHICHEVER IS MORE CONVENIENT.

16:33:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHENEVER WORKS FOR YOU.

MAY 5th --

16:33:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
LOOKS BUSIER.

16:33:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAY 19th UNDER STAFF REPORTS?

16:33:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT WOULD BE FINE.

16:33:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION WHICH COUNCILMAN CITRO MAY 19TH

UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

YES, SIR.

ANYTHING ELSE?

16:33:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NOTHING.

THAT'S IT.

16:33:48 >>LUIS VIERA:
ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION WHICH YOU

SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED, ONE OF THE EARLIEST WOMEN POLICE

OFFICERS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WAS ACTUALLY JOE GRECO'S MOM.

A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T KNOW SHE WAS A COP.

ALSO IF I MAY, CONGRATULATIONS TO SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.

16:34:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HIGHLY, HIGHLY, HIGHLY QUALIFIED.

COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.

16:34:22 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE NOTHING.

16:34:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DID YOU ENJOY YOUR FIRST DAY?

16:34:25 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DID.

16:34:26 >> YOU PASSED THE AUDITION.

16:34:30 >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.

16:34:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NOTHING.

16:34:33 >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU ALL SEEM TO BE OKAY WITH LIMITING THE

NUMBER OF COMMENDATIONS.

IF YOU DISAGREE LET ME KNOW BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A

MOTION TO ASK EACH COUNCILMEMBER TO LIMIT COMMENDATIONS TO

FIVE EACH PER YEAR.

16:34:45 >> FAME FINE WITH THAT.

16:34:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMEMBER HAS A CARLSON.

IF WE HAVE THE VIERA BLESSING WE ARE GOOD.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

YES, SIR?

16:35:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU WOULD PLACE THE MOTION.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT --

16:35:22 >>BILL CARLSON:
I SAID TO ASK SO IT'S NOT A RULE, IT'S JUST

TO ASK, A REQUEST.

16:35:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

16:35:32 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

I WAS ASKED -- I JUST GOT THIS -- WAS ASKED BY THE HEALTHY

BOND COALITION TO PASS A PROCLAMATION.

I HAVE NEVER DONE A PROCLAMATION.

DO WE DO PROCLAMATION OR COMMENDATIONS?

16:35:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IN THIS CASE YOU CAN DRAFT A RESOLUTION,

IF YOU WISH TO DO THAT.

A PROCLAMATION IS DONE BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, AND THERE'S A

PROCESS TO THAT.

BUT IF THEY WANT A MAYORAL PROCLAMATION THAT'S A DIFFERENT

PROCESS.

16:36:02 >>BILL CARLSON:
NO, THEY WANT US TO DO.

16:36:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THEN IT WOULD BE A RESOLUTION OF CITY

COUNCIL RECOGNIZING.

16:36:07 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I MAKE A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION NOW?

16:36:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.

WHEN DO YOU WANT IT TO COME BACK?

DO YOU WANT IT IN ADVANCE OF MAY, OR --

16:36:20 >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE IS THE DRAFT THAT THEY GAVE US BUT I

WOULD MAKE A MOTION --

16:36:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNTY COME BACK ON THE 21st.

IF YOU WANT APRIL 21st --

16:36:32 >>BILL CARLSON:
APRIL 21.

16:36:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

OPPOSED?

16:36:39 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH ME NOR A SECOND.

WHEN WE WERE TALKING LAST WEEK WITH THE SCHEDULING FOR MORE

DATES FOR DEVELOPMENT, I THINK WE ALL GOT A LOT OF CALLS

FROM DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY WANT US TO

ADD MORE DATES.

BUT EQUALLY OR MORE, THEY HAD ASKED US TO ASK THE STAFF TO

SPEED UP THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

AND I ASKED ABBYE AND NICOLE THAT LAST WEEK AND THEY TALKED

ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT BUT I GOT A BUNCH OF CALLS AFTERWARDS

TO SAY CAN YOU PLEASE ASK THEM TO ELABORATE ON THAT?

BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE REALLY CONCERNED THAT THE PROCESS IS

SLOW.

AND IT COULD BE BUDGET, THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF,

OR -- THEN THEY STARTED TO DESCRIBE WHAT THE SOLUTIONS

REQUEST.

SO ANYWAY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK DEVELOPMENT

STAFF TO REPORT ON MAY 19th ABOUT HOW THEY PLAN TO

REDUCE THE TIME FOR PERMITTING AND LAND USE APPLICATIONS

BEFORE THEY COME TO COUNCIL.

IT SOUND LIKE THEY ALREADY IDEAS ON HOW TO DO THIS SO FOR

THE PUBLIC'S PURPOSES I WOULD LIKE THEM TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEY

ARE DOING.

16:37:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT DATE?

16:37:41 >>BILL CARLSON:
MAY 19th.

16:37:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
UNDER STAFF REPORTS?

16:37:45 >> UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

16:37:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANYTHING ELSE?

I HAVE A FEW ITEMS.

COUNCILMAN VIERA, I PASS THE GAVEL TO YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO

THE --

(SPEAKING SPANISH)

WHO WILL BE VISITING TAMPA TO CELEBRATE THE BARRANQUILLA

CARNIVAL.

AS YOU KNOW, BARRANQUILLA IS THE OLDEST SISTER CITY, TO BE

PRESENTED OFF-SITE.

ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WISHES TO JOIN ME, IT'S TOMORROW

NIGHT.

I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHERE.

16:38:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU FOR THE NOTICE.

[ LAUGHTER ]

16:38:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I THINK IT'S AT WHISKEY NORTH ON DALE

MABRY.

16:38:30 >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL BE WALKING MY BIKE TOMORROW NIGHT.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

16:38:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE NEXT IS A MOTION TO PRESENT THE PARKS AND REC MASTER

PLAN INTERIM FINDINGS BY CONSULTANT AECOM, 15-MINUTE

PRESENTATION, APRIL 21st, 2022, WHICH IS A REGULAR

MEETING.

16:39:05 >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

16:39:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND THEN I HAVE A REQUEST THAT WE

PAY -- THAT I PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO MOTIONS MADE UNDER NEW

BUSINESS, HEAR THE ENTIRE MOTION, JUST IN CASE THERE NEEDS

TO BE DISCUSSION.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION -- NO?

SO BASICALLY, WHAT I TYPED UP HERE, MY AIDE TYPED UP THAT WE

PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO MOTIONS MADE UNDER NEW BUSINESS JUST

IN CASE THERE'S NEED FOR DISCUSSION OR NOT, AND THAT'S IT.

THAT'S JUST A COURTESY THING.

OH, NO, I HAVE GOT SOMETHING HERE.

I HAVE TONS OF PAPER.

ANOTHER ONE IS THE LOCAL HOUSING -- WHAT?

OH, THAT WAS JUST A THING.

DIDN'T NEED A MOTION, JUST A DISCUSSION.

SO THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN FOR A PRESENTATION TO

COME TO COUNCIL APRIL 21st, 2022, TO PRESENT THE FINAL

LP FINDINGS FROM THE FLORIDA HOUSING COALITION.

BEFORE WE SUBMIT IT PRAYER TO THE FLORIDA HOUSING COALITION

ON MAY 2nd.

SO THAT WE GET THIS LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN OUTLINING

HOW GRANT FUNDS WILL BE USED.

WE HAVE DEADLINES OF MAY 2nd, 2022.

I WOULD LIKE THAT TO COME TO COUNCIL APRIL 21st, 2022 AT

9 A.M.

16:40:47 >>CHAIRMAN:
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

16:40:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.

LET'S SEE HERE.

NOW TO DISCUSS THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE PROSPECTUS AND MARKET

REPORT.

I DON'T HAVE CLARIFICATION.

LISA, WHEN DID I HAVE TO MAKE THE MOTION ON THIS?

DID THEY GIVE US A DATE?

16:41:05 >> [OFF MICROPHONE] APRIL 21st UNDER STAFF REPORTS,

CORRECT?

OKAY.

SO THIS IS A PRESENTATION UNDER STAFF REPORTS FOR A REPORT

REGARDING THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE PROSPECTUS AND MARKET REPORT,

APRIL 21st UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

16:41:21 >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

16:41:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND WAS THERE SOMETHING WITH REGARD TO

RECONSIDERATION OF THE PARKS AND REC MOTION THAT WAS

PREVIOUSLY MADE?

16:41:37 >> WE NEED TO MAKE THE MOTION FOR THAT FOR A WORKSHOP.

I BELIEVE THE APRIL WORKSHOP, I HAVE IT ON APRIL 28th, I

BELIEVE.

16:41:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
APRIL WORKSHOP IS GOING TO BE -- THE

APRIL 28th WORKSHOP.

I WOULD LIKE TO MODIFY MY PREVIOUS MOTION SO THAT THE PARKS

AND REC MASTER PLAN INTERIM FINDINGS BY THE CONSULTANT

AECOM, A 15-MINUTE PRESENTATION, COME TO US AT THE APRIL

28th WORKSHOP MEETING.

16:42:12 >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL THIS FAVOR?

16:42:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THAT IS GOING TO BE A

PRESENTATION BY AECOM, WOULD YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT EARLIER

IN THE AGENDA?

16:42:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

16:42:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE FIRST ONE IS A PRESENTATION BY THE

NATIONAL DEFENSE INDUSTRY WITH A 10-MINUTE PRESENTATION

REGARDING THE LONG-TERM ISSUES AROUND MacDILL.

BUT DO YOU WANT TO MAKE IT THE SECOND PRESENTATION?

16:42:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S JUST MAKE IT AS THE SECOND

PRESENTATION.

THAT'S FINE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?

MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

WE ARE ADJOURNED.



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