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CITY OF TAMPA
CRA MEETING
THURSDAY, APRIL 14, 2022
9:00 A.M.


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09:00:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY NAME IS JOSEPH CITRO, AND I AM THE

09:00:53 CHAIR OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FOR THE

09:00:58 CITY OF TAMPA HELD ON THIS DAY, THE 14TH DAY OF APRIL,

09:00:58 2022.

09:01:02 AND I WILL THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

09:01:05 WHO IS GIVING US THE INVOCATION?

09:01:06 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

09:01:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:01:13 MY HONOR AND PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO WELCOME PASTOR

09:01:16 KERRY NANCE.

09:01:21 A TAMPA POLICE CHAPLAIN SINCE 2005, MARRIED TO HIS WIFE

09:01:26 FOR 29 YEARS, AND COMING UP IN OCTOBER AND HAS THREE

09:01:26 WONDERFUL CHILDREN.

09:01:29 MY HONOR TO WELCOME THE PASTOR TO GIVE THE INVOCATION.

09:01:32 IF WE CAN PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE

09:01:33 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

09:01:35 THANK YOU, SIR.

09:01:35 >> LET'S PRAY.

09:01:39 OUR FATHER, WE ARE THANKFUL TO BE HERE TODAY, AND WE

09:01:41 WANT TO JUST THANK YOU FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.

09:01:45 WE THANK YOU FOR THE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED.

09:01:48 AND, LORD, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SAFETY.

09:01:52 LORD, WE KNOW OF SO MANY ATROCITIES AND PROBLEMS AROUND

09:01:54 THE COUNTRY, AND, LORD, WE ARE JUST THANKFUL FOR YOUR

09:01:57 BLESSING AND YOUR HAND UPON US.

09:02:01 AND LORD, AS WE COME TO THIS DAY, GOD, I WILL ASK THAT

09:02:03 YOU WILL BLESS AND HELP OUR LEADERSHIP, THAT YOU WILL

09:02:07 GIVE THEM THE WISDOM, LORD, THAT THEY NEED.

09:02:11 BE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AS THEY OVERLOOK SO MANY AREAS

09:02:14 AND MAKE DECISIONS AND GIVE DIRECTION.

09:02:18 BE WITH THEIR HELPERS, THEIR AIDES.

09:02:20 LORD, AS THEY ARE TRYING TO HELP THEM.

09:02:24 LORD, I JUST PRAY THAT YOUR GRACE AND YOUR WISDOM WILL

09:02:24 BE UPON THEM.

09:02:28 I PRAY THAT YOU WILL BE WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT,

09:02:31 THAT YOU WILL OVERSHADOW THOSE MEN AND WOMEN AS THEY

09:02:33 STAND ON THE FRONT LINES IN OUR FIRE AND RESCUE.

09:02:36 I PRAY FOR OUR MAYOR THAT YOU WILL HAVE YOUR HAND UPON

09:02:42 HER AND THAT YOU WILL GIVE HER WISDOM AS WELL.

09:02:45 LORD, WE ASK FOR YOUR CITY THAT YOU GIVE US SPECIAL

09:02:45 GRACE.

09:02:47 THAT YOU GIVE US DIRECTION.

09:02:51 FATHER, AS WE COME UPON THIS SESSION, MAY YOUR PRESENCE

09:02:51 BE HERE.

09:02:54 MAY YOU DIRECT IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

09:02:57 LORD, AS WE COME UPON THIS WEEKEND, WE CAN'T HELP BUT

09:02:59 THINK OF YOUR GRACE UPON US.

09:03:01 AND WE THANK YOU, LORD.

09:03:04 I KNOW SO MANY CHURCHES IN TAMPA BAY WILL BE

09:03:07 CELEBRATING THE FACT THAT JESUS CHRIST CAME AND THAT HE

09:03:09 DIED FOR OUR SINS.

09:03:12 AND LORD, AS WE LOOK TO SUNDAY AND THINK OF THAT

09:03:15 RESURRECTION AND THE HOPE THAT YOU OFFER, WE THANK YOU

09:03:16 FOR THAT.

09:03:18 LORD, WE PRAY YOUR BLESSING IN ALL THAT IS DONE HERE

09:03:19 TODAY IN JESUS'S NAME.

09:03:22 AMEN.

09:03:24 >> AMEN.

09:03:39 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

09:03:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL PLEASE.

09:03:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

09:03:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

09:03:44 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.

09:03:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

09:03:48 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

09:03:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M HERE.

09:03:52 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

09:03:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:03:55 MR. MASSEY.

09:03:58 >>MORRIS MASSEY: GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE CRA

09:03:59 BOARD.

09:04:01 THIS IS THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:04:03 GENERALLY, PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES

09:04:05 PER SPEAKER.

09:04:07 MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC CAN EITHER ATTEND THE MEETING IN

09:04:10 PERSON HERE IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER LOCATE ON THIRD

09:04:14 FLOOR OF OLD CITY HALL, 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD OR

09:04:17 VIRTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING BY USING

09:04:22 WHAT IS COMMONLY USED IN FLORIDA STATUTES AS

09:04:23 COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY.

09:04:26 IF THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF COMMUNICATION

09:04:31 MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR CMT, THEY MUST PREREGISTER.

09:04:34 THE INSTRUCTIONS WAS IN THE NOTICE OF THAT MEETING.

09:04:37 AND THOSE ARE THE GENERAL RULES FOR -- FOR PUBLIC --

09:04:43 FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING.

09:04:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

09:04:50 MISS VAN LOAN, DO WE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO OUR AGENDA?

09:04:52 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, CRA BOARD

09:04:55 MEMBERS, MICHELLE VAN LOAN, COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT

09:04:56 DEPARTMENT.

09:04:59 YES, WE ARE ASKING THAT ITEM NUMBER 12 BE POSTPONED TO

09:05:01 THE MAY 12 CRA BOARD MEETING.

09:05:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

09:05:04 DO I HAVE A MOTION?

09:05:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR WHAT, ITEM 12 TO BE CONTINUED?

09:05:12 >>MICHELLE VAN LONE: THE APPOINTMENT OF CAC MEMBERS

09:05:15 FOR THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, A COUPLE OF APPLICANTS THAT SUBMITTED

09:05:18 IT THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED. AND WE WANT TO GET ALL OF THEM

09:05:21 THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INCLUDED IN THE VOTE FOR THE CRA BOARD

09:05:22 FOR THAT APPOINTMENT.

09:05:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT IT MAKE SURE THAT --

09:05:26 [INAUDIBLE]

09:05:28 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: EVERYBODY HAS BEEN NOTIFIED.

09:05:31 >>MORRIS MASSEY: BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE, A MOTION TO

09:05:33 WAIVE NORMAL RULES.

09:05:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

09:05:36 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:05:37 EXCUSE ME.

09:05:40 ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

09:05:41 ANY OPPOSED?

09:05:42 MOTION CARRIES.

09:05:45 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THANK YOU, SIR.

09:05:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION --

09:05:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 12 TO THE MAY

09:05:50 CRA MEETING.

09:05:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

09:05:54 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:05:56 ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

09:05:57 OPPOSED?

09:05:58 MOTION CARRIES.

09:06:00 MISS VAN LOAN, I BELIEVE I HAVE A NOTE HERE FOR REVISED

09:06:06 MEMO ON NUMBER 15?

09:06:06 OKAY.

09:06:09 WE WILL GET TO THAT WHEN WE GET TO IT.

09:06:10 THANK YOU.

09:06:13 ALL RIGHT, WE WILL START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:06:15 I BELIEVE WE ALREADY HAVE OUR FIRST SPEAKER STANDING

09:06:17 THERE.

09:06:20 IF EVERYBODY THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING OUR PUBLIC

09:06:24 COMMENT COULD PLEASE FORM A LINE OVER TO MY LEFT, YOUR

09:06:27 RIGHT, AND WE WILL START WITH OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT

09:06:34 SPEAKER.

09:06:41 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN, CHAIR CITRO.

09:06:44 TAYLOR RALPH.

09:06:48 THE APPOINTMENT OF DOWNTOWN CRA COMMUNITY ADVISORY

09:06:50 COMMITTEE APPOINTEES.

09:06:55 LATER TODAY, YOU WILL HEAR FROM SHAWN BARWEDEN, WHO IS A

09:06:58 CONSULTANT WITH MY FIRM, REAL BUILDING CONSULTANTS.

09:07:00 I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHO HE IS.

09:07:02 HE IS A YOUNG KID WHO WENT TO SCHOOL HERE IN THE

09:07:03 UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.

09:07:07 STUDIED HIS MASTERS IN URBAN AND REGIONAL PLANNING.

09:07:11 WORKING AT REHABILITATION AND SUSTAINABILITY AND

09:07:16 RESILIENCY FOR VERY LARGE PROJECTS FOR DOWNTOWN CHANNEL

09:07:20 DISTRICT, WATER STREET, UNIVERSITY WORK AS WELL AS A

09:07:25 LOT OF COMMUNITY WORK, INCLUDING PILOTING THE PARK LIT

09:07:26 PROGRAM.

09:07:29 HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ONE OF RECENT TO DO THE PARK

09:07:30 LIGHTS.

09:07:33 THAT THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP THEN EVENTUALLY ROLLED

09:07:34 OUT THROUGH DOWNTOWN.

09:07:38 HE ALSO WORKS IN THE COMMUNITY GARDEN OF SULPHUR

09:07:40 SPRINGS AND HELPED DESIGN AND DEVELOP THAT WITH THE

09:07:42 YMCA.

09:07:46 OUTSTANDING CANDIDATE, HARD-WORKING, PASSIONATE,

09:07:49 UNDERSTANDS THE ISSUES OF DOWNTOWN AREA AND BUILDING

09:07:53 SUSTAINABLE AND HOPE YOU CONSIDER SHAWN BAREWEDEN FOR

09:07:57 THE DOWNTOWN CRA APPOINTMENT.

09:07:57 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:07:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. RALPH.

09:08:01 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

09:08:04 >> GOOD MORNING, BOB WHITMORE, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

09:08:08 OF CITY TREE, A CITIZENS ACTION GROUP.

09:08:12 YOU HEARD A LOT ABOUT OLIGARCHY OVER THE LAST FEW

09:08:13 MONTHS.

09:08:16 IT MAY SURPRISE YOU NOT JUST A RUSSIAN PHENOMENON.

09:08:20 DEFINITION OF OLIGARCHY ACCORDING TO MR. WEBSTER, A

09:08:22 RICH BUSINESS LEADER WITH A GREAT DEAL OF POLITICAL

09:08:23 INFLUENCE.

09:08:30 THEY WORK BEST IN AN HYPOCRISY THAT YOU HAVE ONLY ONE

09:08:35 PERSON TO INFLUENCE AND OLIGARCHS DON'T DO SO GOOD.

09:08:37 TOO MANY PEOPLE TO PERSUADE.

09:08:40 TOO BIG OF A RISK THAT YOU PUT SOMEONE WHO WILL PUT

09:08:43 PRINCIPLES BEFORE PROFIT.

09:08:45 JOHN DINGFELDER WAS ONE OF THOSE MEN.

09:08:48 FOR THOSE WHO SAY JOHN DINGFELDER GOT WHAT HE DESERVED,

09:08:51 BUT SOMEHOW HE BROUGHT HIS TROUBLES UPON HIMSELF.

09:08:53 IN A WAY THEY ARE RIGHT.

09:08:56 BUT NOT BY DOING ANYTHING WRONG, BUT BY DOING THINGS

09:08:57 RIGHT.

09:09:00 BY ASKING THE HARD QUESTIONS, BY PUTTING HIS POSITION

09:09:04 AND PRIVILEGE ON THE LINE EVERY DAY, STANDING UP TO

09:09:07 THOSE WHO WILL TAKE NATURAL BEAUTY AND NEIGHBORHOOD

09:09:11 INTEGRITY AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE FOR THIS CITY FOR THE

09:09:14 SAKE OF PERSONAL PROFIT AND GAIN WITH LITTLE THOUGHT

09:09:16 GIVEN TO THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA.

09:09:18 WE WILL NEVER REALLY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO JOHN BECAUSE

09:09:20 OF THE GAG ORDER.

09:09:26 BUT THE ONE THING WE DO KNOW IN OUR GUT AND IN OUR

09:09:30 HEARTS IS WHAT HAPPENED WAS WRONG.

09:09:33 AND IT IS A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY.

09:09:36 BECAUSE OF THIS, WE, THE PEOPLE, HAVE STARTED A GO FUND

09:09:40 ME TO HELP JOHN PAY HIS LEGAL FEES.

09:09:52 YOU CAN GIVE AT GOFUNDME/DINGFELDER-DEFENSE-FUND.

09:10:01 GOFUNDME/DINGFELDER-DEFENSE-FUND.

09:10:06 RAISED 25,000 OF A $65,000 GOAL OVER THE LAST 23 DAYS.

09:10:09 WE WILL KEEP GOING UNTIL JOHN'S BILLS ARE PAID.

09:10:13 BECAUSE WHILE WE KNEW -- WHILE HE KNEW THERE WAS A

09:10:18 PRICE TO BE PAID FOR FIGHTING THE OLIGARCHS, PART OF

09:10:21 THAT PRICE SHOULDN'T BE $65,000 OF HIS OWN MONEY.

09:10:24 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:10:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. WHITMORE.

09:10:34 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:10:38 SHARE SOME INFORMATION THAT SHE WAS GOING TO HAND OUT

09:10:46 TO EACH OF YOU, CITY COUNCILMEN.

09:10:50 YES, COULD YOU PLEASE HAND THAT.

09:10:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. ADAMS, GO AHEAD.

09:10:57 >> MY NAME IS EDDIE ADAMS, JR., AND I RISE THIS MORNING

09:11:01 TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF A DISSERVICE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL

09:11:05 HAS DONE TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY PROBABLY SINCE ITS

09:11:08 BLACK COMMUNITY HAS BEEN HERE.

09:11:12 THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE LITERALLY OVERLOOKED THE

09:11:15 COMMUNITY AND DISRESPECTED THE COMMUNITY.

09:11:19 WHAT I -- WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A FINANCIAL

09:11:20 ASSESSMENT.

09:11:23 SO IF I ASK YOU HOW MUCH MONEY DO THE CITY OF TAMPA

09:11:28 SPEND WITH BLACK BUSINESSES IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA, YOU

09:11:33 WOULD FIND THAT IS LESS THAN 2% OF YOUR ANNUAL BUDGET

09:11:36 IS SPENT WITH BLACK BUSINESSES.

09:11:41 WHICH PRETTY MUCH MAKES -- MAKES YOU ARIZONA CITY

09:11:46 COUNCIL NOT RETURN NEARLY AS MUCH OF THE TAXES TO THE

09:11:48 BLACK COMMUNITY AS YOU TAKE.

09:11:55 SO IF THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS 24, 25% OF YOUR COMMUNITY

09:12:01 -- 24%, 25% OF THE TAXES YOU TAKE IN AND YOU RETURN

09:12:03 LESS THAN 2% TO THAT COMMUNITY, THAT MEANS YOU ARE

09:12:08 PRETTY MUCH DOING WHAT THIS NATION WAS STARTED ON.

09:12:10 TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.

09:12:12 YOU ARE NOT SPENDING MONEY BACK.

09:12:14 YOU ARE NOT CREATING BLACK MILLIONAIRES AND

09:12:16 BILLIONAIRES WHO SHOULD BE GETTING A PERCENTAGE OF THE

09:12:19 MONEY BACK IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY PAY IN TAXES.

09:12:21 IN THIS COMMUNITY YOU HAVE GOOD PLAYERS.

09:12:26 AIRPORT HAS MINORITY REQUIREMENTS ON EVERY ISSUE THEY

09:12:28 ISSUE.

09:12:30 TAMPA GENERAL WHICH IS THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF

09:12:31 YOU.

09:12:32 MOFFITT.

09:12:36 MOFFITT SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS LAST YEAR WITH THE

09:12:36 BLACK COMMUNITY.

09:12:39 AND THE CITY OF TAMPA, IF YOU WERE NOT LOOKING FOR IT,

09:12:41 YOU DON'T FIND IT.

09:12:43 USUALLY WHEN REPORTS LIKE THIS ARE GIVEN, YOU USUALLY

09:12:45 SAY, WELL, WE DON'T KNOW.

09:12:48 I AM GOING TO ASK YOU AND CONTINUE TO ASK TO YOU FIND

09:12:51 OUT HOW MUCH MONEY THE CITY OF TAMPA ACTUALLY SPENDS

09:12:53 WITH BLACK BUSINESSES.

09:12:56 I AM NOT CONCERNED ABOUT MINORITIES BECAUSE WHAT YOU DO,

09:12:59 WELL, WE SPEND SO MUCH WITH WHITE WOMEN.

09:13:01 THAT IS THE LARGEST POPULATION IN THIS COUNTRY, BUT

09:13:04 SOMEHOW FOR FINANCIAL SPENDING AND REPORTS THEY BECOME

09:13:05 A MINORITY.

09:13:10 SO I AM MORE CONCERNED HOW MUCH -- YOU SAY WE CAN'T SAY

09:13:11 HOW MUCH WE SPEND WITH THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

09:13:14 BUT YOU DEFINITELY CAN DO THE NUMBERS.

09:13:16 YOU CAN RUN THE NUMBERS, FIND OUT.

09:13:19 BECAUSE WHAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY DOING, YOU ARE MAKING IT

09:13:23 SUCH THAT WHATEVER NUMBER OF DOLLARS WOULD HAVE WENT TO

09:13:26 THIS COMMUNITY, THEY DON'T GET, BECAUSE YOU DON'T SPEND

09:13:27 WITH THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

09:13:30 I MEAN THE 2% IS NEGLIGIBLE.

09:13:40 SO WHAT I AM ASKING IS FOR YOU TO BE FAIR AND EQUITABLE

09:13:41 FOR YOUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

09:13:45 I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE HISPANICS, ASIANS AND ALL THOSE

09:13:47 OTHER FOLKS.

09:13:51 I AM ASK YOU IF YOU CAN AT SOME POINT IN TIME TELL US

09:13:56 AS A COUNCIL THE CITY IS SPENDING FOR BLACK BUSINESSES

09:13:58 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

09:13:59 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

09:14:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. ADAMS.

09:14:08 >> HELLO.

09:14:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.

09:14:10 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:14:23 DESPOT HDC QUEEN KING QUEEN VLADIMIR SIAM.

09:14:25 NOT SURE WHAT WE DID YESTERDAY -- TALKING ABOUT RUSSIA

09:14:32 AND UKRAINE AND STUFF.

09:14:42 YESTERDAY, WE DID A CEREMONY, RITUAL FOR UKRAINE, AND I

09:14:43 WILL READ IT OUT.

09:14:45 FOREVER REDEEM SET FOR THE INDEPENDENT AND THE

09:14:49 DEPENDENT COLLABORATION SOVEREIGN, SUB SOVEREIGN,

09:14:53 SPIRITUALITY, NOT RELIGION, FREE PEOPLE, NOT

09:14:57 CENSORSHIP.

09:15:01 SOVEREIGN WHITE GLOBAL AMERICAN KINGDOM, UNITED

09:15:10 NATIONS, SIAM, 13, AIM, NATO, UKRAINE, RUSSIA, IRISH,

09:15:16 SCOTTISH, ANCIENT AMERICAN.

09:15:23 BY MY DECREE, I HEARBY BREAK THE YOLK, FALSE BLINDNESS,

09:15:28 DUMBNESS, LOSTNESS, CAST IT AWAY NEVER TO RETURN AGAIN.

09:15:32 ABRACADABRA.

09:15:37 I ASK OF UKRAINE AND WE GOT IT DONE.

09:15:40 NOW AFRICA, YOU KEEP COMPLAINING OF THIS AND THAT.

09:15:43 LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU, YOU HAVE BEEN PAYING YOUR TAXES

09:15:47 TO THE EEU.

09:15:48 YOU BELONG TO THE EEU.

09:15:52 THAT IS YOUR WHOLE TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.

09:15:55 AND IT IS UNFAIR FOR YOU TO KEEP COMING TO MY CITY HALL

09:15:58 TALKING ABOUT OH, THE BLACK PEOPLE THIS, THE BLACK

09:15:58 PEOPLE THAT.

09:16:03 I AIN'T HEARING YOU TALK ABOUT MY WHITE WOMEN.

09:16:04 THAT IS STUPID.

09:16:09 THAT IS -- NOW, YOU KNOW YOU BLACK OWNERS WANT TO TALK

09:16:10 ALL THAT JUNK.

09:16:13 RENT IS 5,000 A MONTH.

09:16:16 AS FAR AS GAS GO, $10.31.

09:16:21 AND THE CHEAPEST BILL AT A RESTAURANT IS $100.

09:16:25 TELL ABOUT HOW WE DON'T CARE WHEN WE PUT OUR LIVES ON

09:16:30 THE LINE FOR THE THAT DON'T CARE ENOUGH ABOUT NONE OF

09:16:31 US.

09:16:31 THANK YOU.

09:16:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

09:16:35 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

09:16:38 >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.

09:16:39 JOHN DINGFELDER, 26%.

09:16:42 SPEAKING ON IT FOR YEARS.

09:16:47 GENTRIFICATION, HIGH RENT PRICES, HIGH HOUSING PRICES,

09:16:52 HOMEOWNERSHIP OUT OF REACH, GOVERNMENT OUT OF TOUCH

09:16:55 WITH GENERAL POPULATION, EDUCATION CONTROLS, WHITE

09:16:57 PEOPLE PROBLEM.

09:16:58 THOSE AREN'T BLACK PROBLEM.

09:17:01 THOSE AREN'T PROBLEMS THAT THE 26% OF THE COMMUNITY,

09:17:04 AND 14% OF BLACK POPULATION OF AMERICA.

09:17:06 WE AFRICANS HAVE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS.

09:17:09 OUR PROBLEM ARE SO FAR IN THE BACK BURNER MOST PEOPLE

09:17:12 DON'T SEE OUR PROBLEM AS BEING ON THE STOVE.

09:17:13 CRIME ISN'T A BLACK PROBLEM.

09:17:16 HOUSING ISN'T A BLACK PROBLEM.

09:17:19 WAR IN UKRAINE ISN'T A BLACK PROBLEM.

09:17:25 STEEL PRODUCTION IS NOT A BLACK PROBLEM.

09:17:27 SPACE EXPLORATION NOT A BLACK PROBLEM.

09:17:31 THE ONLY BLACK PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN UNDECLARED WAR

09:17:35 AGAINST AFRICANS INTERNATIONALLY, AND OUR PEOPLE ARE

09:17:39 UNAWARE OF THE ATROCITIES COMMIT AGAINST US OVER THEFT

09:17:44 OF OUR CONTINENT, SOCIAL, POLITICAL STRUCTURES, THEFT

09:17:49 OF OUR FINANCIAL, CULTURE, GENOCIDE, THEFT OF EXISTING

09:17:58 AND HOSTILE FORCE INTO SLAVERY, CAPITALISM,

09:18:04 NEOCOLONIALISM, VENTURE CAPITALISM, START-UP CAPITALISM

09:18:10 AND OTHER FORMS OF EXPLORATION TO KEEP AFRICANS 100%

09:18:11 DISPOSSESSED.

09:18:16 DID A SURVEY OR POLL OF THE BLACK POPULATION OF THE

09:18:20 WORLD, 99% OF BLACK PROBLEMS WILL LIST THE TEN MOST AS

09:18:24 WILL SMITH SLAP, TOM BRADY COMING OUT OF RETIREMENT,

09:18:29 NBA YOUNG BOY BEEFING WITH ONE ARE THE RIGHT TO SPEECH,

09:18:35 KANYE WEST AND KIM KARDASHIAN, IS LEBRON JAMES BETTER

09:18:37 THAN KOBE BRYANT.

09:18:38 HOUSEWIVES OF ATLANTA.

09:18:43 SOME ARE TALKING OF TUPAC VERSUS BIGGY NOWHERE BLACK

09:18:47 FREEDOM, BLACK POWER, MARCUS GARVEY, YEARS OF

09:18:51 OPPRESSION OF OURS.

09:18:54 WHITE PEOPLE HAVE IT SO TIGHT THAT HERE IN TAMPA

09:18:58 FLORIDA A $100 MILLION PROJECT IS IN PLAY AND OF THE

09:19:02 $26 MILLION WE AFRICANS WILL GET, WE OF THE DEAL, WE

09:19:03 GET NOTHING.

09:19:05 WHITE MEN HAVE BEEN GOING WEST FOR 400 YEARS AND

09:19:08 GENTRIFICATION IS PARTS OF THEIR MOBILITY

09:19:11 TRANSFORMATION TAKING LAND FROM THE INDIGENOUS

09:19:15 POPULATION AND FORCING THEM OUT OF RESERVATIONS IS

09:19:18 BIGGER THAN PUTIN GIVING THE UKRAINIANS SIX-MONTH

09:19:21 NOTICE OF THE TANKS IN THE UKRAINIAN BORDER.

09:19:24 WE BLACK PEOPLE HAVE TO WAKE UP TO REALITY OF

09:19:28 CAPITALISM VERSUS REPARATIONS AND NUCLEAR WEAPON UNDER

09:19:32 OUR CONTROL OF THE BENEFITS OF AFRICANS AND AFRICANS

09:19:33 INTERNATIONALLY.

09:19:41 FREEDOM AND BLACK POWER AND REPARATIONS.

09:19:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. DANIELS.

09:19:46 >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.

09:19:51 WHEN I CAME ON APRIL 5 LAST TUESDAY, I CAME BECAUSE THE

09:19:54 PEOPLE SENT ME.

09:19:57 ORDINARILY, YOU COULDN'T HEAR THE VOICES OF THE PEOPLE.

09:20:00 BUT I'M HERE TODAY TO CONTINUE THE WORK OF THE PEOPLE

09:20:03 AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, COUNCILWOMAN FOR YOUR

09:20:05 APPOINTMENT.

09:20:08 THE REASON WHY I CONTINUE TO COME IS BECAUSE OF THE

09:20:12 ONGOING NEGLIGENCE THAT EXISTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

09:20:20 FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS OR MORE THIS COMMUNITY CONTINUED

09:20:26 TO LAY OUT THE ISSUES OF ECONOMIC FAIRNESS THAT DON'T

09:20:27 EXIST IN OUR COMMUNITY.

09:20:32 AND ALTHOUGH THIS IS A CRA MEETING TODAY AND ISSUES OF

09:20:37 EAST TAMPA CONTINUE TO STAND UP FRONT AND CENTER, WHEN

09:20:40 YOU LOOK AT THE MAIN ISSUES THAT WE CONTINUE TO RAISE

09:20:46 IN EAST TAMPA AS IT RELATES TO STABILIZING DIGNITY IN

09:20:48 HOUSING, IT DOESN'T APPEAR ON TO THE AGENDA.

09:20:52 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT USING SOME OF THE RESOURCES THAT

09:20:55 IS CONNECTED TO THE CRA DOLLARS SO WE CAN HAVE A

09:21:00 MASSIVE INFUSION OF REHABILITATING HOUSING.

09:21:03 WE ARE TALKING GIVING YOUNG PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT

09:21:07 THEY DON'T SEE THEIR LIFE EXPECTANCY ENDING AT 30

09:21:11 YEARS, BUT WE CAN USE THAT MONEY TO GENERATE FULL

09:21:12 EMPLOYMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

09:21:16 BUT YET STILL, WHAT WE HAVE IS THE DUPLICATION OF

09:21:20 CREATING BUSINESSES AND LAND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL

09:21:23 GIVE NEW PEOPLE THAT IS MOVING INTO OUR COMMUNITY

09:21:25 BETTER OPPORTUNITIES.

09:21:28 IT IS TRUE GENTRIFICATION IS OCCURRING AND A LOT OF

09:21:31 TIMES YOU SAY, WELL, YOU CAN'T CONTROL THE MARKET, BUT

09:21:33 YOU NEED TO BE WATCHING INFLATION.

09:21:36 YOU NEED TO BE WATCHING THE FACT THAT THINGS THAT GO UP

09:21:41 SO HIGH TEND TO FALL DOWN.

09:21:44 WE NEED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE FACT WE HAVE TWO

09:21:47 GENERATIONS OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE

09:21:51 BEEN -- THAT IS BUILDING THEIR LIFE EXPECTANCY ON

09:21:52 HOPELESSNESS.

09:21:56 AND YET, WHEN WE DON'T SPEND THE MONEY TO FOSTER GOOD

09:21:58 WILL IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND THAT WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR

09:22:02 YOU TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM ANY OF THE OTHER

09:22:02 COMMUNITIES.

09:22:06 BUT WHEN HOUSING PRICES ARE SO OUT OF REACH FOR

09:22:09 WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, IT IS SHAMEFUL

09:22:11 AND FALLS ON YOUR SHOULDERS.

09:22:15 WHEN WE SEE $100 MILLION PROJECT COMING INSIDE OF EAST

09:22:20 TAMPA, AND YET THE CONSULTANT THAT IS BEING USED CAN

09:22:23 COME TO THIS COUNCIL AND TELL THAT YOU MONEY WAS SPENT

09:22:25 FOR A BAKERY AND A PRINTER.

09:22:27 AND YOU THINK THAT IS ENOUGH?

09:22:28 IT IS NOT.

09:22:29 WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.

09:22:31 WE ARE GOING TO KEEP ADVOCATING.

09:22:34 WE WILL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE TO THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU

09:22:38 SIGNED THAT YOU SAID YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THE DISPARITY THAT

09:22:40 EXISTS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

09:22:44 AND YOU HAVE UNTIL YOUR NEXT ELECTION TO SHOW US THAT

09:22:46 YOU UNDERSTOOD AND YOU MADE CHANGES.

09:22:47 THANK YOU.

09:22:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS BURTON.

09:22:58 >> GOOD MORNING, KEELA MCCASKILL WITH THE CENTER OF

09:22:59 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

09:23:03 I HAVE -- WELL, I WILL START OFF WITH EAST TAMPA

09:23:04 REQUEST.

09:23:16 SO MUCH HAPPENING IN THAT CRA IT HAD THE MOST MONEY

09:23:17 SINCE I FOLLOWED IT.

09:23:21 WE DON'T HAVE A STAFF -- AND WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE

09:23:25 CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE A STAFF TO SPEND MONEY AND EQUABLY

09:23:29 AND MAKING SURE WE MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DISTRICT.

09:23:32 RECENTLY THE CITY HIRED NICOLE TRAVIS, I BELIEVE HER

09:23:33 NAME IS.

09:23:36 AND SHE HAS A BACKGROUND THAT CAN DEFINITELY SUPPORT

09:23:38 THE MOVEMENT GOING FORWARD IN EAST TAMPA.

09:23:40 I DON'T KNOW IF THE REST OF THE STAFF HAS THAT.

09:23:50 SO I WILL ASK IF IT IS POSSIBLE NOT SURE WHAT THAT WORK

09:23:52 CHART BUT SHE HAS A LOT OF INVOLVEMENT IN THE PROGRAM

09:23:58 AND PROCESSES AS THEY DEVELOP BECAUSE I AM AFRAID THAT

09:24:02 THEY MAY ATTEMPT TO ABUSE THE MONEY AND I WANT TO MAKE

09:24:05 SURE THAT NICOLE TRAVIS WITH THAT SKILL SET IS INVOLVED

09:24:07 AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN EAST TAMPA.

09:24:13 THEN I WANT TO ALSO -- I KNOW I SENT AN E-MAIL BUT WANT

09:24:15 TO SEND THE INVITATION OF THE COMMUNITY CLEANUP.

09:24:18 PREVIOUSLY YOU ALL WERE INVOLVED AND PLAYED A ROLE IN

09:24:19 IMPROVING.

09:24:23 WE GO IN THROUGH THIS MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY AND HELP

09:24:26 SENIORS AND DISABLED PERSON OF CLEANUP.

09:24:29 YOU OFFERED OR EXTENDED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SOLID

09:24:33 WASTE TO PICK UP THE TRASH AND PARTICIPATE AS WELL.

09:24:36 IT IS A GOOD LOOK THAT GOOD THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN

09:24:39 EAST TAMPA AND YOU GET TO BE A PART IF YOU SIGN UP

09:24:40 APRIL 30.

09:24:44 I SENT YOU ALL AN E-MAIL.

09:24:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS MCCASKILL.

09:24:50 ANY OTHER SPEAKER IN CHAMBERS TODAY?

09:24:51 ANY OTHER SPEAKERS?

09:24:53 THANK YOU.

09:24:57 MISS MICHELLE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON LINE?

09:24:58 I BELIEVE WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS.

09:25:00 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

09:25:03 THE FIRST SPEAKER IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.

09:25:06 MR. RANDOLPH, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, YOU HAVE THREE

09:25:07 MINUTES TO SPEAK.

09:25:09 >> GOOD MORNING, CRA COMMITTEE.

09:25:13 BEFORE I GET STARTED, I AM GOING TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO

09:25:17 HC OF THE WEST TAMPA CRA.

09:25:19 A STAND-UP GUY.

09:25:20 HE IS DOING A GREAT JOB.

09:25:24 HE IS DOING A GREAT JOB BECAUSE NOT ONLY DOES HE BRING

09:25:27 THE SKILL SET BUT BRINGS THE PASSIONS TO EVERYBODY TO

09:25:29 MAKE SURE THEY ARE INCLUDED.

09:25:31 TODAY I AM COMING WITH TWO HATS.

09:25:38 FIRST IS NONPROFIT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THE WEST.

09:25:43 AT THE NONPROFIT -- CENTER FOR THE NONPROFIT A NATIONAL

09:25:46 ORGANIZATION THAT IS IN 25 STATES AND BRING IN

09:25:49 TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO NONPROFITS.

09:25:53 TODAY, WE PROBABLY WORK WITH OVER 420 BUSINESSES THAT

09:25:58 GET STARTED THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.

09:26:01 I COMMITTED TO WEST TAMPA RESIDENTS.

09:26:06 AND WE 40 DIFFERENT COMMITTEE MEETINGS TO DEAL WITH THE

09:26:10 ISSUE RELATED TO ROME YARD.

09:26:14 IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS GIVEN.

09:26:17 WE BRING TO THE CAC.

09:26:25 AND STYLE POINT THAT WE BRING IN MICROSOFT MAP TO MAP

09:26:27 EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO MAP.

09:26:29 AND IF WE WANT TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.

09:26:35 MAP FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR EXAMPLE, A SUMMARY OF WHAT

09:26:36 THAT COULD BE.

09:26:42 OTHER THING WOULD BE AND CALLED MARKET ANNAL HIS DATA.

09:26:45 SO WE CAN ANALYZE THE DAY AT THAT NECESSARY FOR

09:26:46 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

09:26:50 AND A MICROSOFT GRANT THAT WE CAN DRILL DOWN AND TELL

09:26:51 YOU EVERYBODY'S INCOME.

09:26:55 I CAN TELL YOU EVERYBODY'S INCOME ON A CITY CAMPUS AND

09:26:57 THE VALUE OF THAT.

09:27:00 THIS IS HOW THIS PARTICULAR SOFTWARE GOES.

09:27:04 WE ARE GOING TO USE IT FOR MOBILIZATION IN THE WEST

09:27:06 TAMPA COMMUNITY.

09:27:07 WE HAVE TEN COMMUNITY RESIDENTS.

09:27:10 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING.

09:27:12 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING OF GENTRIFICATION.

09:27:15 HOW DO WE PLAN TO DEAL WITH GENTRIFICATION?

09:27:20 WE TALK OF BRINGING 120 NEW BUSINESSES FOR RESIDENTS IN

09:27:21 WEST TAMPA.

09:27:26 AND OVER 140 NEW JOB ARE CREATED.

09:27:30 NOW THIS IS WHAT WE PLAN TO DO, WE PLAN TO GO AFTER

09:27:32 $800,000 FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

09:27:37 TO PAY $800,000 AND COMES BACK TO TALK TO THE FACTS.

09:27:39 TO BRING ANOTHER $20 MILLION.

09:27:42 AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO DO GRANTS TO BRING IN $80

09:27:43 MILLION.

09:27:46 WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS PROJECT WE CREATED

09:27:50 WITH A $80 MILLION ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO INVEST IN THE

09:27:51 WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY.

09:27:53 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK

09:27:56 BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

09:27:57 THANK YOU.

09:27:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.

09:28:02 >>CLERK: THANK YOU, NEXT SPEAKER IS MISS JEAN

09:28:06 STROHMEYER.

09:28:09 IF YOU HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE

09:28:10 THREE MINUTES.

09:28:11 >> HELLO.

09:28:12 CAN Y'ALL HEAR?

09:28:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

09:28:20 >> MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER, AND I DON'T GENERALLY

09:28:23 COME TO THESE CRAS -- BUT ANYWAY.

09:28:25 I WAS LOOKING AT THE AGENDA AND THE FIRST THING THAT

09:28:29 CAME TO MY HEAD -- THAT I SAW IS NUMBER 1.

09:28:33 AND HAS -- THAT NAME KIND OF STRUCK ME.

09:28:37 THAT NAME MARITZA ASTORQUIZA -- I AM NOT REALLY GOOD

09:28:40 WITH THAT, THE NAME, IMAGE AND LIKENESS THAT GINA

09:28:44 GRIMES OUR CITY ATTORNEY WAS TEXTING WITH DURING THE

09:28:47 LITIGATION AGAINST JOHN DINGFELDER.

09:28:49 I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD MENTION THAT.

09:28:51 I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS SOME KIND OF CONFLICT BUT

09:28:53 DOESN'T SEEM LIKE SOMEBODY THAT IS SUPPOSED TO HELP THE

09:28:58 CITY IS IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THE DEVELOPER S WHO

09:29:03 OVERRUNNING OUR CITY IN NOT A SMART WAY.

09:29:05 THAT'S WHY WE HAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

09:29:09 BACK ON THE AGENDA, LET'S SEE, THE FERRY -- THERE WAS

09:29:11 -- THERE WAS AN ERROR IN THERE.

09:29:15 I THINK I BROUGHT THAT TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION SOMEHOW IN

09:29:16 THE WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING.

09:29:19 I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE BUT PIGGYBACK

09:29:22 ON THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE OF THE DINGFELDER MATTER.

09:29:26 AND I DO BELIEVE HE GOT RAILROADED AS MOST EVERYBODY

09:29:26 DOES.

09:29:27 SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT.

09:29:34 AND WHEN YOU DO HAVE A BILLIONAIRE AND THE OLIGARCHS

09:29:37 COME IN THE CITY LIKE THE BLOOMBERG SITUATION.

09:29:38 Y'ALL SHOULDN'T VOTED FOR THAT.

09:29:40 WE NEED TO TURN THAT AROUND.

09:29:44 WE DIDN'T ELECT BLOOMBERG TO BE OUR MAYOR OR ELECT

09:29:47 BLOOMBERG CONSULTING TO SIT IN OUR CITY AND HAVE

09:29:49 MEETINGS WITH OUR PEOPLE.

09:29:51 WE DIDN'T ELECT OUR PEOPLE TO GO TO NEW YORK AND HAVE

09:29:51 MEETINGS.

09:29:53 THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ELECTED.

09:29:55 WE ELECTED YOU GUYS SITTING THERE RIGHT NOW.

09:29:58 WE ELECTED THE MAYOR SITTING THERE RIGHT NOW.

09:30:03 WE DID NOT ELECT BLOOMBERG AND THE CONSULTING.

09:30:05 SOMETHING FAR AND DEEP AND PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT AND I

09:30:10 AM GOING TO TELL YOU, ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES AND

09:30:12 ALSO, THESE PEOPLE -- EVERYBODY IS TALKING OF THE

09:30:12 GOVERNMENT OWES THEM.

09:30:16 THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T OWE ANYBODY ANYTHING.

09:30:19 IF ANYBODY -- WE NEED GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL, BUT I WAS

09:30:22 TAUGHT TO NEVER WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT.

09:30:25 I WAS TAUGHT TO WORK FOR YOURSELF.

09:30:27 OUT OF EIGHT CHILDREN, MOST EVERYBODY IS SELF-EMPLOYED

09:30:31 AND MADE THEIR OWN WAY AND EVERYBODY NEEDS TO TRY TO

09:30:32 WORK HARD TO GET TO WHERE YOU NEED.

09:30:36 I LEARNED THAT FROM MR. GUCHARDO FROM WORK EXPERIENCE

09:30:38 IN LETO HIGH SCHOOL.

09:30:41 I LEARNED IT AT WEBB JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL WHEN I WAS IN

09:30:42 WORK EXPERIENCE.

09:30:43 WORK FOR YOURSELF.

09:30:47 LEARN HOW TO INTERVIEW AND GET A JOB OR START YOUR OWN

09:30:47 BUSINESS.

09:30:49 THAT IS THE WAY TO GO.

09:30:51 NOT GOVERNMENT WITH HANDOUTS.

09:30:52 WE DON'T NEED THAT.

09:30:53 THANK YOU.

09:30:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS STROHMEYER, ARE YOU STILL THERE?

09:31:00 >> YES, I'M HERE.

09:31:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU WENT TO LETO.

09:31:05 >> I AM A LETO FALCON IN 1986.

09:31:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO FALCONS, THANK YOU.

09:31:09 >> ALL MY BROTHERS WENT THERE TOO.

09:31:12 YOU PROBABLY KNOW THEM.

09:31:14 WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT.

09:31:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.

09:31:20 >>CLERK: LAST SPEAKER, MISS FRAN TATE.

09:31:23 MISS TATE, IF YOU HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

09:31:26 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

09:31:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.

09:31:28 >> OKAY.

09:31:32 I JUST ASK BECAUSE I HAVE A NEW HEADSET ON THIS

09:31:32 MORNING.

09:31:34 HAPPY THURSDAY TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

09:31:38 I AM FRAN TATE THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY CHAIR OF THE EAST

09:31:41 TAMPA PARTNERSHIP.

09:31:42 MEMBER LYNN HURTAK, WELCOME.

09:31:45 WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING FOR YOU IN EAST TAMPA.

09:31:48 AND SEEING YOU AT THE JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD

09:31:50 ASSOCIATION APRIL MEETING.

09:31:52 COUNCILMAN JOHN DINGFELDER WAS A STRONG SUPPORTER OF

09:31:54 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

09:31:57 THANK YOU FOR ACCEPTING OUR INVITATION.

09:32:02 THIS MORNING, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ITEMS 5 AND 11.

09:32:08 AS YOU STATED, MEMBER HURTAK, YOU ARE NEW TO THE CRA.

09:32:12 AND I AM NEW TO THE EAST TAMPA CRA ECONOMIC

09:32:14 DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY.

09:32:18 ITEM NUMBER 5 CAME OUT OF A RESULT OF FRUSTRATION FELT

09:32:25 BY THE CRA CHAIRS, PAST AND MYSELF CURRENT CAC CHAIR

09:32:26 AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

09:32:32 IT WAS STATED AT THE JANUARY 20 CRA MEETING THAT OUT OF

09:32:42 THREE CHAIRS IN FIVE YEARS COMING BEFORE THE CRA, WE

09:32:47 HAVE HAD THE SAME COMPLAINT AND CONCERNS WHICH WERE AND

09:32:51 WHICH ARE A LACK OF COMMUNICATION.

09:32:55 THE INABILITY TO MOVE PROJECTS FORWARD.

09:33:02 AND SLOW TO NO RESPONSE FROM CITY STAFF.

09:33:06 AN EXAMPLE IS THE OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM APPROVED

09:33:12 BY YOU, THE CRA, IN JULY OF 2021.

09:33:16 AN RFP WAS SUBMITTED ALMOST A YEAR AGO WITH NO

09:33:21 EXPLANATION, NO UPDATE AS TO WHY THE PROGRAM IS NOT

09:33:23 MOVING FORWARD.

09:33:27 MY SENIORS AND VETERANS OF EAST TAMPA STILL HAVE TARPS

09:33:29 ON THEIR ROOFS.

09:33:33 WITH THE HURRICANE SEASON JUST AROUND THE CORNER.

09:33:36 ITEM NUMBER 11.

09:33:41 AS CHAIR OF THE CAC, I REQUEST TO REFER ITEM 11 BACK TO

09:33:42 THE CRA.

09:33:46 THE EAST TAMPA CRA HAS MORE MONEY IN OUR BUDGET THAN WE

09:33:48 HAVE EVER HAD.

09:33:52 AND WE WANT TO BE AND NEED TO BE MORE RESPONSIBLE WITH

09:33:55 THE PROJECTS THAT WE RECOMMEND.

09:34:00 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE LEGALLY REVIEWED

09:34:05 AND APPROVED PROCESS FOR REVIEWING FUNDING REQUESTS IN

09:34:11 WEST TAMPA, IN THE WEST TAMPA CRA, BE REFERRED TO THE

09:34:15 EAST TAMPA CRA FOR REVIEW AND IMPLEMENTATION.

09:34:20 PLEASE REFER ITEM 11 BACK TO THE EAST TAMPA CRA.

09:34:22 CAC.

09:34:23 THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

09:34:26 I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR JOINT MEETING ON THE 19TH OF THIS

09:34:27 MONTH.

09:34:29 ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.

09:34:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO, MISS TATE.

09:34:35 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK A QUESTION?

09:34:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. CARLSON.

09:34:41 >>BILL CARLSON: MISS TATE, ARE YOU STILL HERE?

09:34:41 >> YES, SIR.

09:34:45 >>BILL CARLSON: WE ASKED A MEMBER OF THE CAC ASKING US

09:34:46 TO VOTE AGAINST IT.

09:34:50 DID THE CAC VOTE AND HOW DID THE VOTE GO?

09:34:56 >> THE CAC VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT.

09:34:57 WHAT ELSE DO YOU --

09:34:59 >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU THINK IT NEEDS TO COME BACK FOR

09:35:01 FURTHER DISCUSSION?

09:35:04 >> YES, SIR, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A PROCESS IN ORDER

09:35:06 JUST AS WEST TAMPA CRA DOES.

09:35:11 WE WANT TO BE EXTREMELY RESPONSIBLE OF OUR MONIES.

09:35:21 AND TO JUST VOTE BLINDLY WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF

09:35:24 APPLICATION OR PROCESS IN ORDER IS BEING A LITTLE BIT

09:35:26 IRRESPONSIBLE, IN MY OPINION.

09:35:30 WE WANT TO REVIEW THE WEST TAMPA CRA PROCESS AND ADOPT

09:35:32 THAT PROCESS.

09:35:36 BECAUSE IT IS ONLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

09:35:39 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.

09:35:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

09:35:44 >> WAS THAT IT?

09:35:46 >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU AS WELL.

09:35:46 >> YES, MA'AM.

09:35:52 >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THE APPLICATION PROCESS IN LIKE WEST

09:35:53 TAMPA.

09:35:56 WHEN YOU DISCUSSED THIS, DO YOU HAVE ANY PAPERWORK?

09:35:59 I DIDN'T FIND ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE ACTUAL PROGRAM.

09:36:07 IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE GOING BACK TO TALK MORE ABOUT?

09:36:10 I DIDN'T SEE SITE PLANS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

09:36:14 >> WE HAVE -- WE DON'T HAVE AN APPLICATION.

09:36:17 I FEEL AS A CHAIR IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF

09:36:22 A PROCESS IN ORDER.

09:36:25 WEST TAMPA HAS AT MODEL FOR IT.

09:36:29 GIVE US A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE WEST TAMPA MODEL SO WE

09:36:32 ARE NOT BLINDLY HANDING OUT OUR DOLLARS THAT WE ARE

09:36:34 RESPONSIBLE WITH TO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.

09:36:36 I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

09:36:38 THE FLOODGATE IS OPEN NOW.

09:36:41 I WAS JUST ON A ZOOM ON MONDAY WITH ANOTHER

09:36:44 ORGANIZATION ASKING FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO FUND

09:36:45 THEIR PROJECT.

09:36:49 HOW DO WE SHOW RESPONSIBILITY IF WE ARE JUST APPROVING

09:36:55 AND WRITING CHECKS TO WHOEVER, HOWEVER, AND WHENEVER.

09:36:58 WE GOT TO GET MORE ORGANIZED IN EAST TAMPA.

09:37:01 WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE JUST NOT THERE.

09:37:05 WE ARE JUST NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE IN OUR CRA, BUT WE

09:37:07 WANT TO BE THERE.

09:37:09 WEST TAMPA, WE SEE THEM AS A MODEL.

09:37:18 AND WE WANT TO BE A MODEL AS WELL.

09:37:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU FINISHED?

09:37:22 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:37:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE WHEN YOU TALK OF

09:37:28 EAST TAMPA AND YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER CRAS AND

09:37:32 YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, EAST TAMPA

09:37:38 NOW HAS -- THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHO YOU CAN SAY NO TO

09:37:39 SUBJECT MATTER.

09:37:41 I THINK THAT IS WHY YOU CAN DISCOVER IT.

09:37:44 BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO NOW KNOW ABOUT ECONOMIC

09:37:44 DEVELOPMENT.

09:37:46 THEY KNOW ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.

09:37:48 AND PROGRAMMING.

09:37:52 BEFORE WE HAD A LOT OF OUR SENIORS ON OUR BOARDS VERSUS

09:37:54 EAST TAMPA FIRST.

09:37:57 WITH THAT PARTNERSHIP, WHEN YOU HAD A DIANA HART AND

09:38:00 MR. KENZIE AND KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE WHEN EAST TAMPA

09:38:05 JUMPED UP AND A BIG ROADBLOCK AND NO MONEY FOR A LONG

09:38:05 TIME.

09:38:08 AND NOW THERE IS MONEY AND PEOPLE WENT AWAY AND PEOPLE

09:38:11 ARE COMING BACK NOW INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT EAST

09:38:14 TAMPA FLOURISHES.

09:38:19 PEOPLE GO ASKING FOR MONEY AND MONEY THAT DOESN'T FIT

09:38:22 INTO WHAT THE CRA IS SUPPOSED TO DO.

09:38:26 THAT IS WHY PEOPLE NOW ARE QUESTIONING -- I GOT A CALL

09:38:30 OF SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT I WAS TAKEN ABACK AS WELL.

09:38:34 AND I WAS LIKE, A PROCESS.

09:38:38 SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.

09:38:41 SOMETHING THE COUNCIL -- CRA BOARD NEEDS TO LOOK AT.

09:38:45 I KNOW THE FRUSTRATION BECAUSE I HAVE SAT ON THAT

09:38:45 BOARD.

09:38:49 AND THE FRUSTRATION WITH MANY IS THAT THINGS ARE PUT

09:38:53 OUT THERE, BUT IT TAKES FOREVER FOR THEM TO COME BACK

09:38:55 AND GET IMPLEMENTED.

09:38:57 AND THE QUESTION IS, WHY?

09:39:01 VERSUS IF -- IF ADMINISTRATION WANTS SOMETHING MOVED,

09:39:04 IT IS MOVED, BUT THE EAST TAMPA FOLKS FEEL LIKE WHEN

09:39:08 THEY PUT AN IDEA TO FOSTER THE PEOPLE, THINGS ARE --

09:39:09 THERE ARE ROADBLOCKS.

09:39:12 MAY NOT BE TRUE.

09:39:12 I DON'T KNOW.

09:39:15 I SAT THERE AND FELT THAT WAY BEFORE AND THERE IS A

09:39:18 PROCESS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BUT I THINK THE -- FOR ME,

09:39:21 EAST TAMPA FEELS THAT THEY NEED TO BE BUMPED UP AND

09:39:24 WHATEVER PROCESS IN PLACE THEY NEED TO BE MOVED TO THE

09:39:26 HEAD OF THE LINE SO THEY CAN START SEEING SOME OF THE

09:39:30 GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR EAST TAMPA.

09:39:32 WE TALK ABOUT THAT REHAB FROM DAY ONE.

09:39:35 WHEN I WAS ON THE CAC IN 2019.

09:39:42 I TALKED ABOUT ROOF TARPS.

09:39:45 SLOWING DOWN TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SMALL PROGRAMS AND

09:39:49 GRANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FOLKS GET WHAT THEY NEED

09:39:52 TO REMODEL AND REHAB THEIR HOUSES.

09:39:55 MOVING FORWARD, I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET SOME OF THESE

09:39:58 ROADBLOCKS OUT OF THE WAY AND EAST TAMPA GOES TO THE

09:40:02 HEAD OF THE LINE INSTEAD OF BEING IN THE BACK OF THE

09:40:05 LINE AND HAVE A EFFORT ON EAST TAMPA IN ALL FRONTS.

09:40:08 I DO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THEIR FRUSTRATIONS.

09:40:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

09:40:17 I CAN ONLY SPEAK WITH MY TIME FROM THE YBOR CRA.

09:40:24 AND I HAVE SAT IN MANY DIFFERENT CRA-CAC MEETINGS FOR

09:40:30 PUBLIC COMMENT AND OTHER THINGS THAT AREN'T VOTED ON.

09:40:35 AND THE PROCEDURES I HAVE SEEN IN THESE OTHER CACS,

09:40:40 CRAS IS THE COMMUNITY COMES TOGETHER, TALKS TO

09:40:42 COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

09:40:45 COMMITTEE MEMBERS TAKE IT FORWARD TO THE CAC.

09:40:51 IT IS VOTED ON BY THE CAC, AND THEN THE PROJECTS COME

09:40:54 TO THE CRA BOARD.

09:40:59 AND I AM HOPING WE CAN HAVE MORE COHESIVENESS BETWEEN

09:41:03 CRAS AND THE COMMUNITY ADVISES THE COMMITTEES AND

09:41:08 THINGS ARE VOTED ON AT THE CAC MEMBERS -- BY THE CAC

09:41:12 MEMBERS AND THEN PRESENTED TO THE CRA BOARD.

09:41:14 MISS TATE, ARE YOU STILL THERE?

09:41:16 >> YES, SIR, I AM STILL HERE.

09:41:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS TATE, FOR YOUR COMMENTS

09:41:20 TODAY.

09:41:23 >> THANK YOU FOR RECEIVING ME EVERYONE.

09:41:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE ANY MORE?

09:41:26 OKAY.

09:41:32 MISS VAN LOAN.

09:41:34 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: GOOD MORNING, MICHELLE VAN LOAN,

09:41:36 COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

09:41:39 OUR FIRST SPEAKER THIS MORNING IS MARITZA ASTORQUIZA,

09:41:44 WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE DREW PARK CAC TO GIVE HER

09:41:45 MONTHLY REPORT.

09:41:52 IT HAS BEEN SEVEN MONTHS SINCE DREW PARK HAD REPORTED.

09:41:54 >>MARIA ASTORQUIZA: GOOD MORNING.

09:41:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.

09:41:57 >>MARIA ASTORQUIZA: HOW ARE YOU TODAY.

09:42:00 I'M HERE VERY PROUDLY TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON

09:42:01 IN DREW PARK.

09:42:03 AND IT IS A LOT.

09:42:06 I AM USING A CHEAT SHEET THIS TIME.

09:42:09 WE HAD VOTED ON BRINGING IN A CONSULTANT TO HELP US

09:42:14 WITH OUR PARKS PROJECT AND STAFF THROUGH ALL THEIR

09:42:17 PROCESSES PLACEMAKER DESIGN WAS CHOSEN.

09:42:19 DESIGNER --

09:42:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FOR THE RECORD GIVE YOUR NAME.

09:42:23 >> I DID NOT GIVE MY NAME?

09:42:28 MARITZA ASTORQUIZA, DREW PARK CRA CHAIR.

09:42:32 SO WE HAVE PLACE MAKER DESIGN STUDIO.

09:42:35 THEY CAME TO TALK TO US AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THEY

09:42:35 HAVE.

09:42:39 THEY WILL BE GATHERING SOME DATA AND HELPING US WITH

09:42:41 THE NEXT PHASE OF THE LINEAR PARK THAT WE HAVE ON TAMPA

09:42:46 BAY BOULEVARD, AS WELL AS THE NEW CONCEPT OF -- OF A

09:42:49 NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IN DREW PARK.

09:42:54 AND THOSE ARE GOING TO BE ON HUBERT AVENUE.

09:42:59 THIS PROJECT STARTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN THROUGH

09:43:02 AIRPORT EXPANSION, WE LOST HUNTS PARK.

09:43:09 AND THEN WE GOT IN AL LOPEZ PARK, CORDELIA PARK CENTER

09:43:12 BUT THE RESIDENTS IN DREW PARK WERE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS

09:43:17 THE CHILDREN'S -- ACROSS DALE MABRY.

09:43:20 ALWAYS ON OUR RADAR TO HAVE A PARK REPLACE THE PARK WE

09:43:20 LOST.

09:43:22 WE HAVE A LINEAR PARK.

09:43:25 IT NEEDS TO LITTLE BIT -- GOING INTO PHASE TWO, FOR IT

09:43:26 DEVELOPED MORE.

09:43:29 BEAUTIFUL SPACE AND PRESERVED GREEN SPACES IS WONDERFUL

09:43:33 AND NOW A POCKET PARK, I WOULD SAY IS PROBABLY A BETTER

09:43:34 TERM FOR THAT.

09:43:37 A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK FOR THE KIDS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD

09:43:40 CHILDREN AND PARENTS AND FAMILIES TO ENJOY.

09:43:46 WE DO WANT TO, IF POSSIBLE, PRESERVE SOME HISTORICAL

09:43:50 VALUE BECAUSE WE ARE VERY PROUD OF OUR HISTORICAL --

09:43:52 HISTORY.

09:43:54 OUR MILITARY HISTORY IN DREW PARK.

09:43:56 IT WILL BE A WONDERFUL PROJECT.

09:43:58 AND WE ARE ALL VERY EXCITED TO MOVE THAT FORWARD.

09:44:01 I THINK THAT WILL BE A GREAT ENHANCEMENT FOR THE

09:44:02 NEIGHBORHOOD.

09:44:09 SO WE ARE ALSO GOING THROUGH -- WE VOTED TO HIRE A

09:44:16 LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT FOR LOIS AND GRADY.

09:44:19 AN OVERALL OF LOIS AND GRADY AND IT IS BEAUTIFUL AND SO

09:44:23 MUCH WENT INTO IT, BUT NOW WE ARE AT A POINT TO SEE HOW

09:44:25 IS IT BEING MAINTAINED.

09:44:29 ARE THERE SAFETY ISSUES NOW THAT THE DESIGN NEEDS TO BE

09:44:30 CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.

09:44:37 AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF THAT AS WELL.

09:44:41 SIDEWALK PARK, IMPROVEMENTS.

09:44:45 WE VOTED TO HIRE A MULTIDISCIPLINARY FIRM TO LOOK AT

09:44:49 THE SIDEWALK PROGRAMS, THE GAPS, WE DO HAVE GAP,

09:44:51 IDENTIFIED PARKING AREAS.

09:44:54 WE KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PARKING SITUATIONS IN DREW

09:44:55 PARK.

09:44:58 IMPROVEMENTS, SAFETY MOBILITY.

09:45:03 WE ARE A COMMUNITY WHERE IT IS A LOT OF COMMERCE AND

09:45:04 INDUSTRY.

09:45:10 AND WE ARE CO-EXISTING WITH VERY BUILT, YOU KNOW LINED

09:45:11 RESIDENTIAL AREA.

09:45:15 BUT WE ALSO HAVE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENT AT THE SAME

09:45:15 TIME.

09:45:17 SO WE HAVE A LOT OF WALKING.

09:45:21 WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING FROM POINT A TO POINT B.

09:45:22 WE HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN.

09:45:25 WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCE.

09:45:29 AND WE HAVE A LOT OF BIG TRUCKS.

09:45:33 AND AIR CARGO ROAD WHICH HAS BEEN A GREAT ENHANCEMENT,

09:45:36 WE ALSO HAVE INCREASED TRAFFIC THAT GOES IN AND OUT OF

09:45:39 OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T HAVE

09:45:40 BEFORE.

09:45:43 WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, YOU KNOW.

09:45:46 THAT'S WHERE OUR FOCUS IS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ENHANCE

09:45:51 PARKING, SIDEWALKS, MOBILITY AND SAFETY.

09:45:57 SO GOOD NEWS IS, WE HAVE PROPERTY 4221 NORTH COOLIDGE

09:46:04 AND 442 HUBERT AVENUE.

09:46:06 MANY YEARS AGO WE ACQUIRED THIS PROPERTY TO HAVE

09:46:07 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

09:46:10 AND NOW WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.

09:46:15 SO WE WILL REVIEW A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL TO SEND OUT TO

09:46:15 DEVELOPERS.

09:46:19 IT WILL GO DOWN ITS PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO

09:46:22 ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL WE SET FOR MANY YEARS AGO WHEN WE

09:46:24 ACQUIRED THESE PROPERTIES.

09:46:27 SO THAT IS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT IS GOING ON IN DREW

09:46:28 PARK.

09:46:29 A LOT GOING ON IN DREW PARK.

09:46:32 WE REALLY ARE MOVING THINGS FORWARD.

09:46:33 WE ARE VERY ORGANIZED.

09:46:34 WE MEET.

09:46:39 WE NOW MEET BACK AGAIN AT DISTRICT 1 IN TPD.

09:46:43 HOLDING REGULAR MEETINGS AND MOVING THINGS FORWARD, AS

09:46:44 YOU CAN SEE.

09:46:48 WE ALSO ARE WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TO

09:46:51 SEE IF WE ARE -- ANY FUTURE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE WOULD

09:46:54 LIKE TO HAVE TO BETTER THE LIVING CONDITIONS OR THE

09:46:57 SAFETY CONDITIONS IN DREW PARK.

09:46:59 WE HAVE -- IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE A

09:47:03 PARTICULAR PROJECT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MANY

09:47:06 YEARS AGO THAT WAS EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL WITH CLEANING

09:47:10 UP ILLEGAL ADULT BUSINESSES THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN

09:47:12 EXISTING.

09:47:13 AND THERE WAS A BIG PROJECT.

09:47:18 AND ACTUALLY THE CRA RECEIVED AN AWARD FOR IT, A STATE

09:47:19 AWARD.

09:47:21 IT WAS VERY UNIQUE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE POLICE

09:47:21 DEPARTMENT.

09:47:24 AND NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY AN ADDITIONAL

09:47:27 PARTNERSHIP WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO CONTINUE TO

09:47:32 INCREASE THE SAFETY IN DREW PARK.

09:47:34 WE ALSO WANT TO IMPROVE OUR GATEWAYS.

09:47:37 OTHER GATEWAYS INTO DREW PARK.

09:47:40 IDENTIFY THAT WE ARE HERE.

09:47:44 DREW PARK IS A LONGSTANDING NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A LOT OF

09:47:48 MILITARY HISTORY, A LOT OF PRIDE, A LOT OF WONDERFUL

09:47:51 HISTORY IN DREW PARK AND WANT TO PRESERVE AS WE GO

09:47:53 FORWARD AND NOT FORGET OUR HISTORY.

09:47:54 ANY QUESTIONS?

09:47:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

09:47:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO THANK MARITZA

09:48:02 ASTORQUIZA AND HER BOARD AND CRA IN DREW PARK.

09:48:06 AS YOU WELL KNOW, YOU MENTIONED LOIS AVENUE AND GRADY.

09:48:09 AT ONE TIME IT WAS A MISERABLE PLACE TO DRIVE ON AND

09:48:12 LOOK AT, THROUGH YOUR EFFORTS AND THE CITY'S EFFORTS

09:48:18 COMBINED, WE GOT MONEY FROM THE GRANTS MONEY AND YOUR

09:48:18 TAX MONEY.

09:48:23 AND LOIS AVENUE AND GRADY LOOKS REALLY, REALLY NICE

09:48:25 COMPARED TO HOW IT WAS AND LOOKING BETTER EVERY DAY;

09:48:29 HOWEVER, A LOT OF BUSINESSES -- NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT

09:48:32 UPGRADED WHEN THEY SAW THE UPGRADE YOU PUT YOUR HARD

09:48:33 DOLLARS INTO.

09:48:34 AND YOU ARE RIGHT.

09:48:39 THEY STILL NEED SOME VISUAL -- PEOPLE, I ALWAYS SAY

09:48:42 PEOPLE EAT WITH THEIR MOUTH BUT TASTE WITH THEIR EYES

09:48:44 BECAUSE WHAT THEY SEE IS HOW THEY FEEL.

09:48:47 WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH THERE, IT NEEDS A LITTLE TREE

09:48:48 EVIDENT.

09:48:49 I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND.

09:48:51 I AM NOT AN ARBORIST.

09:48:53 BUT I AM GLAD YOU ARE DOING THAT.

09:48:56 AND ON TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD WHEN YOU TRAVEL AND YOU GO

09:49:00 HEADING WEST TO CARGO ROAD AND GO CARGO ROAD, THERE IS

09:49:04 A BIG DEVELOPMENT COMING ON THE CORNER OF CARGO ROAD

09:49:11 BETWEEN OSBOURNE AND HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE ON THE WEST

09:49:13 SIDE OF CARGO ROAD.

09:49:15 THAT WILL BE A COMPANY WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING

09:49:17 THERE, AM I CORRECT?

09:49:20 I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT COMING THERE AND I READ IT IN THE

09:49:24 PAPER A YEAR AGO AND FRUITION OF THE WHOLE THING BEING

09:49:24 CONVERTED.

09:49:27 ALL KIND OF EQUIPMENT GETTING THE LAND READY TO BUILD

09:49:29 SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB MOVING

09:49:35 THE CONCRETE OUT, MILLING IT, USING IT MORE LIKELY FOR

09:49:37 CONSTRUCTION PURPOSES LATER ON.

09:49:39 A CHANGING AREA AND THROUGH YOUR EFFORTS AND YOUR

09:49:42 COMMITTEE AND YOURSELF AND ALL THOSE INVOLVED, IT HAS

09:49:44 CHANGED FOR THE BETTER AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

09:49:47 YOUR PARK THAT YOU HAVE, THE TRAIL, THAT IS AROUND

09:49:52 WHERE THE OLD PRINTING PRESS USED TO BE AND A U-HAUL

09:49:56 TYPE COMPANY AND I FORGET THE NAME RIGHT NOW AND ALL

09:49:59 THAT AND HCC WENT AND BUILT ALL THE APARTMENTS ON LOIS

09:50:03 AND THE ROUNDABOUT THAT STARTED A LOT -- SPURRING

09:50:04 PEOPLE TO MOVE BACK.

09:50:07 WHAT YOU ARE DOING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS EXACTLY

09:50:08 WHAT WHICH NEED.

09:50:12 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND EVERYONE AT DREW PARK.

09:50:12 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

09:50:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

09:50:18 I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID.

09:50:25 THERE FOR A WHILE, THE DREW PARK CRA-CAC WAS A LITTLE

09:50:26 ROCKY.

09:50:28 AND I AM THANKFUL THAT IT HAS COME BACK.

09:50:31 THE PROCESS IN WHICH YOU MENTIONED YOUR SEVERAL

09:50:34 PROJECTS, THE PARK AND OTHER THINGS.

09:50:36 IT WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF LISTENING TO THE

09:50:38 COMMUNITY.

09:50:39 >> ABSOLUTELY.

09:50:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOING TO THE COMMITTEES.

09:50:42 >>MARIA ASTORQUIZA: ABSOLUTELY.

09:50:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMING TO THE RECOMMENDATION.

09:50:47 >>MARIA ASTORQUIZA: ABSOLUTELY.

09:50:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE CAC VOTING ON IT AND PRESENTING IT

09:50:51 TO THE CRA BOARD.

09:50:55 >>MARIA ASTORQUIZA: ABSOLUTELY.

09:50:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COHESIVENESS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE

09:51:05 DREW PARK CAC CRA BROUGHT IT TO FRUITION.

09:51:07 >>MARIA ASTORQUIZA: ABSOLUTELY.

09:51:09 THE PROJECTS YOU HEAR ARE A PROCESS OF ONGOING

09:51:10 PROCESSES.

09:51:13 DIDN'T JUST POP UP LAST MONTH OR A FEW MONTHS AGO.

09:51:17 AN OLD CRA, THE FIRST ONE IN EAST TAMPA.

09:51:19 MAY BE WRONG.

09:51:20 PLEASE CORRECT ME.

09:51:23 THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE RADAR FOR A

09:51:25 WHILE AND MATURING.

09:51:28 OTHERS MOVE FORWARD AND THESE -- SO NOT JUST SOMETHING

09:51:30 THAT POPPED OUT OF THE AIR.

09:51:38 WE HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS

09:51:42 AND EVENTUALLY YOU GET TO AS MUCH AS YOU CAN GET TO.

09:51:44 I THINK THEY ARE GREAT PROJECTS.

09:51:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR CAC

09:51:51 MEMBERS AND -- COUNCILMAN GUDES, DO YOU WANT TO SAY

09:51:51 SOMETHING?

09:51:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GLAD THAT DREW PARK IS MEETING

09:51:56 NOW AND THEY ARE ON TRACK.

09:51:57 LET ME JUST SAY THIS.

09:51:59 MR. CITRO TALKS OF PROCESS.

09:52:03 AND -- I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD OFFENDED, BUT I AM

09:52:03 OFFENDED.

09:52:07 EAST TAMPA IS DIFFERENT THAN OTHER CRAS.

09:52:12 THEIR ISSUES ARE MUCH MORE DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER CRA

09:52:13 THAT WE HAVE.

09:52:17 YES, THERE ARE PROCESSES, BUT A LOT OF TIME DURING THE

09:52:19 PROCESSES, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE PROCESSES.

09:52:20 THEY DON'T KNOW.

09:52:22 THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND.

09:52:24 A TEACHING MECHANISM THAT HAS TO BE IN PLACE FOR EAST

09:52:28 TAMPA BECAUSE A LOT OF TRANSITION THAT COMES THROUGH

09:52:30 FOR THOSE BOARDS AND THOSE COMMITTEES.

09:52:32 THEY JUST STARTED TO FORM COMMITTEES, TO HAVE STRONG

09:52:34 PEOPLE ON COMMITTEES.

09:52:35 AND WE ARE TALKING OF THE PROCESS.

09:52:41 YES, A PROCESS MR. CITRO AND SOMETHING THAT MR. MCCRAY

09:52:46 AND MISS VAN LOAN CAN WORK THOSE PROCESSES DEALING WITH

09:52:49 THE CITIZENS OF EAST TAMPA, THE COMMITTEE AND BOARD AND

09:52:50 THIS BOARD HERE.

09:52:53 THERE IS A PROCESS BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT HAS BEEN A LONG

09:52:55 TIME AND EAST TAMPA HAVEN'T HAD THAT PROCESS TO KNOW

09:52:57 WHAT THE PROCESS IS ABOUT.

09:52:59 I THINK THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUE.

09:53:02 I THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU ARE DOING IN DREW PARK AND

09:53:04 THE PROCESS IS WORKING IN DREW PARK BECAUSE I THINK

09:53:06 YOUR BOARD IS A LITTLE SMALLER THAN EAST TAMPA.

09:53:09 EAST TAMPA IS MORE UNIQUE BECAUSE IT HAS A PARTNERSHIP

09:53:11 AND ALL THE THESE OTHER DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.

09:53:13 I THINK THAT IS A PROBLEM WITH OUR PROCESS.

09:53:16 HOPEFULLY TO GET ON TRACK LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

09:53:19 THANK YOU.

09:53:21 >> I LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.

09:53:24 I KNOW MUCH ABOUT EAST TAMPA RIGHT NOW, BUT I WILL TELL

09:53:30 THAT YOU THE STRENGTH AND THE SPIRIT OF EAST TAMPA HAD

09:53:35 WHEN THE CRAS STARTED AND COMMENCED REALLY HELPED TO

09:53:36 INSPIRE US.

09:53:37 IN DREW PARK.

09:53:39 I DO REMEMBER THAT.

09:53:44 MAYBE I AM DATING MYSELF, BUT THAT WAS 10, 11, 12 YEARS

09:53:44 AGO.

09:53:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STRONG LEADERS BACK THEN, THANK YOU.

09:53:51 >>MARIA ASTORQUIZA: I DO REMEMBER THAT AND I REMEMBER

09:53:54 HELPING TO START THE CRA IN DREW PARK AND EAST TAMPA.

09:53:58 BUT AT THE SAME TIME, EAST TAMPA MOTIVATED US.

09:54:00 I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE OTHER DISCUSSION, BUT I

09:54:02 JUST WANTED -- SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT UP.

09:54:05 I DID WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL -- TO SAY

09:54:08 THAT IT DID PROVIDE LEADERSHIP AND ACTUALLY MOTIVATION

09:54:09 FOR US.

09:54:11 SO ANYTHING ELSE?

09:54:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN, PLEASE THANK YOUR -- YOUR CAC

09:54:18 MEMBERS, YOUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK

09:54:19 IN THIS.

09:54:22 >>MARIA ASTORQUIZA: ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU.

09:54:25 PERSONAL NOTE, I HAVE NO COMMENTS WHAT WAS MADE DURING

09:54:27 THE PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.

09:54:28 ABSOLUTELY ZERO.

09:54:31 MY NAME WAS MENTIONED AND I AM NOT SURE WHY.

09:54:33 HONESTLY NOTHING.

09:54:36 SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

09:54:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

09:54:46 >> GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD, ROB ROSNER, DIRECTOR OF

09:54:47 ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.

09:54:49 I'M HERE TO PRESENT ITEM NUMBER 2.

09:54:54 WE ARE HERE FOR THE H M FERRIES FOR THE PROJECT THAT

09:54:55 THEY HAVE.

09:54:59 MY PLEASURE TO WELCOME AND INTRODUCE MR. ED TURANCHIK

09:55:02 WHO IS AN ADVOCATE AND FORMER COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND

09:55:06 HERE TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THOSE PROCEEDINGS.

09:55:10 MR. TURANCHIK.

09:55:12 >> MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:55:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.

09:55:16 >> COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

09:55:17 CONGRATULATIONS.

09:55:20 MY MOM ALWAYS SAID, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR.

09:55:24 BUT VERY PLEASED THAT YOU HAVE JOINED COUNCIL.

09:55:26 HOW DO I RUN THE PRESENTATION?

09:55:29 >> JUST ASK THEM TO BRING IT UP.

09:55:30 >> CAN YOU BRING UP THE PRESENTATION.

09:55:34 I'M HERE REPRESENTING HMS FERRIES AND DEVELOPMENT GROUP

09:55:38 WHICH IS PART OF AT PUBLIC, PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH

09:55:38 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

09:55:41 MY NAME IS ED TURANCHIK.

09:55:47 WITH ME IS DANA MCDONALD.

09:55:48 SHE IS THE COUNTY SIDE OF THE PROJECT.

09:55:51 I DON'T HAVE TO TELL THAT YOU THIS YEAR HAS BEEN

09:55:52 EXCEPTIONAL.

09:55:56 WE HIT RIDERSHIP RECORDS PRECOVID THIS LAST WEEKEND.

09:56:00 WE HAVE A REVENUE RECORD THIS YEAR.

09:56:04 AND BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL AND OTHER GOVERNMENTS INVESTED

09:56:09 IN CONTINUING SERVICE, WE SCORED A $5 MILLION GRANT FOR

09:56:13 OUR OWN FERRY.

09:56:15 THE PROJECT IS GOING EXCEPTIONALLY WELL AND PROVIDE AN

09:56:19 OVERVIEW OF THE BIG PICTURE AND THE CROSS BAY FERRY

09:56:22 BECAUSE ALL PART OF THE SAME PARCEL.

09:56:25 BUT THIS HAS BEEN AN EXCEPTIONAL YEAR.

09:56:29 AND MISS MCDONALD WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

09:56:31 I WILL TRY TO DO THIS IN TEN MINUTES.

09:56:34 YOU HAVE THE POWERPOINT AND I WILL GO THROUGH THIS

09:56:36 PRETTY QUICKLY.

09:56:37 NEXT.

09:56:41 >> A CLICKER RIGHT THERE.

09:56:42 >> THANKS, THANK YOU.

09:56:45 AS I MENTIONED THIS IS A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP

09:56:49 BETWEEN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, HMS FERRIES, SOUTHWELL

09:56:53 DEVELOPMENT GROUP THROUGH ENGINEERING RECORD IS

09:56:55 KIMLEY-HORN.

09:56:56 LET'S SEE.

09:57:02 IT'S HARD TO SEE WITH THE WORDS GOING OVER IT.

09:57:05 THE -- SO THIS PARTNERSHIP HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE

09:57:06 2014.

09:57:11 THE CROSS BAY FERRY SEASONAL SERVICE IN PLACE BY 2016.

09:57:15 THE CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG TOOK THE LEAD AND STOOD UP

09:57:18 SEASONAL SERVICE RUNNING BETWEEN THE TWO COMMUNITIES.

09:57:22 IT USES A CHARTERED VESSEL OUT OF BOSTON.

09:57:27 AND THE PREDOMINANT COST OF THE SEASONAL SERVICE IS FOR

09:57:29 THAT CHARTER VESSEL.

09:57:30 IT COMES DOWN.

09:57:31 IT HAS ITS OWN CREW.

09:57:33 THE CREW GOES BACK AND FORTH.

09:57:38 IF WE DID NOT HAVE TO DO THAT, HAD OUR OWN VESSEL,

09:57:42 THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR ONGOING OPERATING SUBSIDIES

09:57:47 FOR ANYONE TO RUN THIS SERVICE BECAUSE HMS WOULD HAVE

09:57:49 TO RUN THIS RISK.

09:57:52 THE GRANT THAT CAME OUT WAS ONLY FOR EXISTING SERVICE.

09:57:55 AND BECAUSE THE CROSS BAY FERRY SERVICE CONTINUED TO

09:57:59 RUN, WE WERE ABLE TO COMPETE.

09:58:07 THE PERMANENT PLAN IS TO RUN -- HAVE FOUR VESSELS WITH

09:58:11 THE VESSELS BETWEEN SOUTH COUNTY AND MACDILL AIR FORCE

09:58:11 BASE.

09:58:15 THAT IS HUGE FOR CITY STREETS BECAUSE IT TAKES A LOT OF

09:58:19 PEOPLE THAT CURRENTLY CAN ADJUST THE ROADWAYS IN SOUTH

09:58:20 TAMPA OFF OF THOSE.

09:58:24 SO BY DAY, THE VESSELS GO BACK AND FORTH.

09:58:27 IN THE EVENING, THAT FLEET OF VESSELS RUNS BETWEEN

09:58:30 DOWNTOWN TAMPA, DOWNTOWN ST. PETERSBURG, AND SOUTH

09:58:32 COUNTY.

09:58:34 THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN ADVANCED BY

09:58:36 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS

09:58:41 ALLOCATED $3.7 MILLION FOR DESIGN AND ENGINEERING.

09:58:43 AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF MONEY.

09:58:45 NO MATCHING FROM ANYONE ELSE.

09:58:49 ON THE STREETCAR PROJECT, MOST OF THE MONEY FOR THE

09:58:51 STREETCAR FOR FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT.

09:58:56 BUT HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, IT IS BEING STAFFED.

09:58:59 THE EXTRAORDINARY PART OF THIS PUBLIC-PRIVATE

09:59:03 PROPRIETORSHIP, HMS FERRY SAID ONCE THIS IS OPERATING

09:59:10 YOU DON'T HAVE TO SUPPLEMENT THIS, ONLY TRANSIT SYSTEM

09:59:11 IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO

09:59:13 PAY TO RUN IT.

09:59:15 HART BUSES GET 25% IN REVENUE.

09:59:19 THIS IS 100% COVID.

09:59:24 THE OTHER EXTRAORDINARY PART OF THIS THAT MOSAIC HAS

09:59:27 OFFERED FREE LAND ON BIG BEND FOR BOTH THE ACCESS ROAD

09:59:30 AND A TERMINAL.

09:59:33 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN

09:59:36 TRANSPORTATION A LONG TIME, I NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE

09:59:36 THIS.

09:59:38 THIS IS PRETTY EXTRAORDINARY.

09:59:41 THE COST OF THE PROGRAM IS APPROXIMATELY $48 MILLION.

09:59:46 AS I MENTIONED, THE LONG-TERM OPERATING SUBSIDIES ARE

09:59:46 ZERO.

09:59:49 WE ARE WELL IN TO DESIGN.

09:59:53 WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING

09:59:58 WITH MOSAIC WHICH IS VERY CLOSE.

10:00:00 THE AIR FORCE HAS PRESENTED THEIR AGREEMENT TO THE

10:00:03 COUNTY FOR THAT PART OF THE DEAL.

10:00:05 AND THE AIR FORCE HAVE TAKEN THE LEAD IN DOING THE

10:00:07 ENVIRONMENTAL WORK.

10:00:10 SO IT'S GONE VERY WELL.

10:00:11 THE PLANS ARE PRETTY ROBUST.

10:00:16 AS I MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE $4.9 MILLION GRANT.

10:00:25 HMS WORKED CAREFULLY WITH THE COUNTY IN FRAMING THAT.

10:00:29 YOU ST. PETERSBURG, PINELLAS, HILLSBOROUGH, ALL

10:00:30 JOINED.

10:00:32 BOTH TRANSIT AGENCIES JOINED.

10:00:37 ALL FOUR AREA CONGRESSMEN -- CONGRESS PEOPLE JOINED AND

10:00:38 SUPPORTING THAT GRANT.

10:00:42 I AM PLEASED TO SAY THAT MISS MCDONALD WAS THE POINT

10:00:45 PERSON IN CRAFTING THAT GRANT FOR THE COUNTY AND WORKED

10:00:48 WITH YOUR GOVERNMENTAL LEADERS IN PUTTING TOGETHER A

10:00:51 PROGRAM THAT WE THINK WE HAVE GOT THE FOURTH MOST

10:00:52 AMOUNT OF MONEY.

10:00:54 AND THIS IS A FERRY GRANT PROGRAM.

10:00:58 YOU CAN'T -- IT IS NOT FOR BUSES OR ANYTHING ELSE, BUT

10:01:02 DISCRETIONARY POTS OF MONEY FOR FERRIES.

10:01:03 THE FACT THAT WE GOT THIS MONEY.

10:01:07 AND IT MUCH TELLS YOU HOW FEDERAL TRANSIT

10:01:09 ADMINISTRATION VIEWS THIS.

10:01:13 WE HAVE AN UNIQUE DISTINCTION AS BECOME THE LARGEST

10:01:15 METROPOLITAN AREA IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ON A

10:01:19 MAJOR WATERWAYS THAT DO NOT USE THE WATERWAYS FOR

10:01:19 MOVING PEOPLE.

10:01:21 BUT NOW WE ARE CHANGING THAT.

10:01:25 I AM GOING TO GO INTO THE CROSS BAY FERRY.

10:01:31 AS OF -- AND THE -- WE ARE RUNNING 32 TRIPS A WEEK.

10:01:35 WE GOT A LATE START BECAUSE PINELLAS COUNTY TOOK A

10:01:37 WHILE TO GET -- THEIR PART OF THE AGREEMENT.

10:01:39 WE WERE SUPPOSED TO START OCTOBER 1.

10:01:42 WE DIDN'T START UNTIL OCTOBER 19.

10:01:44 FERRY SERVICE ENDS ON MAY 1.

10:01:48 NEXT YEAR, IT WILL RUN FROM OCTOBER 1 UNTIL THE END OF

10:01:49 MAY.

10:01:52 EACH YEAR, THE SERVICE IS EXTENDED.

10:01:58 BUT WE CAN ONLY DO 32 TRIPS A WEEK BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE

10:02:02 CREW, OVERTIME RULE, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

10:02:03 THIS SHOWS THE SCHEDULE.

10:02:09 AS I MENTIONED WE ARE OVER 54,000 RIDER.

10:02:17 OUR REVENUE IS -- WE PROJECTED FOR THIS YEAR ABOUT FIVE

10:02:19 -- EXCUSE ME, 640.

10:02:20 WE ARE GOING TO EXCEED THAT.

10:02:24 AND AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, EVERY DOLLAR EARNED AFTER

10:02:30 $400,000 IS REBATED 50/50 TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

10:02:33 WE ESTIMATE THIS CITY OF TAMPA AND ALL THE OTHER

10:02:36 GOVERNMENTS WILL GET APPROXIMATELY $40,000 CHECK ONCE

10:02:41 WE CLOSE THE BOOKS AT THE END OF THE SEASON TO BE MAY

10:02:41 1.

10:02:44 WE DEVELOPED A COOPERATIVE MARKETING PROGRAM.

10:02:48 WE HAVE ABOUT A DOZEN DIFFERENT COMPANIES SIGNED UP FOR

10:02:52 THAT AND THAT WON'T GET ROLLED OUT UNTIL NEXT YEAR.

10:02:56 THIS IS WHAT THE PROGRAM LOOKS FOR THIS COMING YEAR.

10:03:01 BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING MORE MONTHS, THE COST -- THE

10:03:02 OVERALL COSTS IS HIGHER.

10:03:05 EACH LOCAL GOVERNMENT WOULD BE REQUESTED -- AND THIS IS

10:03:09 PART OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, BUT TO INVEST

10:03:11 $190,000.

10:03:16 WE ARE PROJECTING A TICKET INCREASE THIS YEAR IF THAT

10:03:21 WAS $11.10 ON AVERAGE, WE WOULD PROJECT GENERATING

10:03:29 $65,000 OF INCOME, WHICH IN CASE YOUR ACTUAL

10:03:34 OUT-OF-POCKET COST WILL BE LOWER THIS YEAR THAN LAST

10:03:35 YEAR.

10:03:39 YOU CAN ASK MISS MCDONALD ABOUT THIS, BUT HILLSBOROUGH

10:03:41 COUNTY HAS REQUESTED FDOT TO JOIN INTO THIS.

10:03:45 SO IF THAT HAPPENS, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WILL GO LESS.

10:03:47 THE EXTRAORDINARY THING ABOUT THE CROSS BAY FERRY

10:03:52 THOUGH IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU DO TRANSPORTATION

10:03:56 STUDIES AND CONSULTANTS COME IN AND PROJECT THIS IS

10:03:58 WHAT WE THINK WILL HAPPEN AND KINDS OF A GUESS.

10:03:59 WE HAVE FIVE YEARS OF DATA.

10:04:03 EVERY WEEK, WE DO CUSTOMER SURVEYS.

10:04:04 EVERY SINGLE WEEK.

10:04:07 OVER IN PINELLAS COUNTY, THEY ARE USING THE MODEL WE DO

10:04:11 FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE AS A MODEL TO GOVERN THEIR FUTURE

10:04:12 TRANSIT PROJECTS.

10:04:18 WHERE ARE PEOPLE GOING TO AND FROM?

10:04:21 60% OF THE CUSTOMERS ARE COMING TO TAMPA.

10:04:24 PINELLAS COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE

10:04:27 GOING THEIR WAY.

10:04:30 WHEN THEY GET HERE, THEY DINE OUT.

10:04:31 THEY GO TO MUSEUMS.

10:04:33 THEY GO TO SHOPPING.

10:04:36 THEY GO TO SPORTING EVENTS.

10:04:40 ONLY ABOUT 4% SAID THEY TAKE THE FERRY AND GO BACK ON

10:04:41 THE FERRY.

10:04:46 IF YOU WILL, IT IS A DOLPHIN CRUISE FOR 4%.

10:04:48 96% OF THE PEOPLE THEY ARE GOING TO THE OTHER CITY,

10:04:51 GETTING OFF AND DOING SOMETHING AND SPENDING MONEY.

10:04:54 AND IN A LOT OF RESPECTS, THE FERRY IS FAR BETTER THAN

10:04:58 SPORTING EVENTS, BECAUSE SPORTING EVENTS, THE TEAMS

10:05:02 CAPTURE THE PATRON TO GO AND SPEND MONEY INSIDE THE

10:05:03 ARENA.

10:05:07 HERE FERRY PATRONS GO AND SPEND MONEY IN COMMUNITIES.

10:05:11 AND THEY GO HERE TO YBOR CITY.

10:05:21 THE FLORIDA AQUARIUM, THE ARMATURE WORKS.

10:05:22 SPARKMAN WHARF.

10:05:26 COMING OUT OF COVID WHAT BETTER THING TO HELP OUR

10:05:31 HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY THAN TO DELIVER PEOPLE TO THEIR

10:05:35 DOOR TO PATRONIZE THEM AND THOSE HOSPITAL INDUSTRY

10:05:45 EMPLOY A LOT PEOPLE IN THE CENTER CITY A JOBS PROGRAM

10:05:47 RATHER THAN AN EDUCATION PROGRAM.

10:05:50 18% OF PEOPLE WHO RODE THE FERRY SAID THEY TOOK THE

10:05:52 STREETCAR.

10:05:55 BECAUSE HALF AND HALF, TAMPA AND ST. PETE.

10:06:00 40% OF THE PEOPLE COMING IN FROM ST. PETERSBURG ARE

10:06:04 GETTING ON THE STREETCAR AND GOING TO YBOR CITY.

10:06:06 ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE STREETCAR HAD HISTORIC

10:06:11 RIDERSHIP THAT THE FERRY FED PASSENGERS INTO IT.

10:06:15 THIS COMING YEAR, ST. PETERSBURG IS BRINGING ON THE

10:06:19 CENTRAL AVENUE BRT AND WILL CONNECT UP TO THE FERRY.

10:06:23 SO VERY PRACTICALLY SPEAKING STARTING NEXT YEAR, YOU

10:06:27 CAN GO FROM -- IF YOU CAN GO FROM THE BEACHES OF ST.

10:06:31 PETERSBURG TO DOWNTOWN YBOR CITY AND NEVER USE A CAR.

10:06:33 BECAUSE THERE WILL BE THE TRANSPORTATION COMPONENTS TO

10:06:34 DO IT.

10:06:35 IF ONLY WE HAD MORE SERVICE.

10:06:39 AND THE GOOD NEWS IS, ONCE WE GET THAT PERMANENT FERRY

10:06:44 VESSEL HERE, WE CAN RUN LONGER HOURS AND PROVIDE MORE

10:06:46 SERVICE BECAUSE WE WILL HIRE OUR OWN CREWS AND YOU

10:06:53 WON'T HAVE ANY CONTINUING OPERATING SUB CITY DECEMBER.

10:06:58 THE OTHER THING THAT THE FERRY PASSENGERS SPEND A LOT

10:06:58 OF MONEY.

10:07:00 ON AVERAGE $40 A PERSON.

10:07:01 THAT IS SAY LOT OF MONEY.

10:07:02 THEY COME HERE TO SPEND MONEY.

10:07:04 THEY GO BACK BY FERRY.

10:07:06 HERE IS THE OTHER IMPORTANT PART.

10:07:12 THE FERRY IS NOT ONLY -- WELL, IT IS WORTH A

10:07:17 TRANSPORTATION OPTION, CONGESTION, MITIGATION ASSET.

10:07:20 BUT IT IS ALSO AN ECONOMIC GENERATOR.

10:07:24 60% OF THE PEOPLE SAID THEY ONLY WENT TO THE OTHER CITY

10:07:26 BECAUSE THEY COULD TAKE THE FERRY.

10:07:30 TAKE AWAY THE FERRY, YOU LOSE THAT INPUT FROM PEOPLE

10:07:32 RIDING THE FERRY.

10:07:35 AND ACCORDING TO OUR CREDIT CARD ZIP CODE INFORMATION,

10:07:39 20% OF THE PEOPLE USING THE FERRIES AREN'T FROM HERE.

10:07:44 SO THE FERRY DOES A NICE JOB OF INDUCING BUSINESSES FOR

10:07:49 THE BUSINESSES IN THE URBAN CORE OF BOTH CITIES.

10:07:52 ON THE OTHER HAND, 40% OF THE PEOPLE SAID THEY ARE

10:07:55 PLANNING TO MAKE THAT TRIP ANYWAY BUT TOOK THE FERRY

10:07:57 INSTEAD.

10:08:03 THAT IS -- CARS OFF OUR ROADWAY, CARS OFF OF DOWNTOWN

10:08:05 DURING CONGESTED EVENT.

10:08:07 SO GOING TO RAMP UP.

10:08:14 THIS IS A VERY TRANSPORTATION AND ECONOMIC

10:08:14 TRANSPORTATION MODE.

10:08:18 BASED ON THE STATISTICS I SAID, IT GENERATES BUSINESS

10:08:20 THAT TAKES PEOPLE OFF THE ROAD.

10:08:26 AND IT DOES SO AT A FRACTION OF THE COST OF ANY OTHER

10:08:30 OPTION YOU CAN IMAGINE OR CONCOCT.

10:08:33 WE ARE SO VERY HAPPY THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE

10:08:38 CITY OF TAMPA HAS DECIDED TO INVEST IN GETTING THIS

10:08:40 PROJECT GOING.

10:08:43 IT IS INCREDIBLE THAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS PROVIDING

10:08:49 THE CAPITAL MONEY FOR THE STUDIES AND PROVIDING $1.2

10:08:54 MILLION CAPITAL MATCH FOR THE 350 PASSENGER FERRY.

10:08:58 I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS ONE POINT IS THAT THE GRANT

10:09:05 THAT WE WERE AWARDED WILL PROVIDE THE 350 PASSENGER

10:09:07 FERRY AND RUNNING 149.

10:09:10 ONCE WE GET PERMANENT SERVICE GOING, THAT PERMANENT

10:09:16 INNER CITY SERVICE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MOVEMENT

10:09:23 CAPACITY FOR 1.2 MILLION TRIPS, INDIVIDUAL RIDERS.

10:09:26 THE CURRENT SYSTEM ONLY DOES 125.

10:09:31 SO IF WE CAN GET THIS FERRY PROCURED IN PLACE, THE

10:09:39 ECONOMIC IMPACT IN TRANSPORTATION VALUE OF FERRY

10:09:42 SERVICE WHEN THE PROJECT IS UP WILL BE TEN TIMES WHAT

10:09:46 IT IS NOW AND NOTHING BUT GOOD STUFF IN OUR VIEW.

10:09:48 I THINK THAT'S IT.

10:09:52 MISS MCDONALD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING?

10:09:54 OR JOIN ME UP HERE?

10:09:55 IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS?

10:09:58 >> I WILL JOIN YOU UP HERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

10:10:00 TO BE CLEAR, THE GRANT WENT TO HART.

10:10:05 SO HART IS THE AGENCY THAT HAD TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT.

10:10:09 WE PUT IT TOGETHER AND HART IS THE ONE THAT WILL

10:10:12 ULTIMATELY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PROCUREMENT.

10:10:14 AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE

10:10:16 ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE AND ANY QUESTIONS THEY HAVE ARE

10:10:20 WORKING TOGETHER CLOSELY ON THAT.

10:10:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS.

10:10:23 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:10:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I GUESS I AM A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

10:10:33 NO REFLECTION ON MISS MCDONALD AND MR. TURANCHIK, BUT

10:10:34 I THINK DIFFERENTLY.

10:10:37 WHERE DOES THIS GO IN THE WINTER.

10:10:39 SALEM?

10:10:44 >> SALES BETWEEN PROVINCETOWN AND BOSTON IN THE INNER

10:10:46 CITY RUN DURING THE SUMMER.

10:10:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE SAME ONE TO SALEM?

10:10:51 NEWS THAT CAME BACK IN 2012.

10:10:54 AND SAY THE ELEMENTARY NEWSPAPER AND ALL THE PHONE

10:10:57 NUMBERS OF ALL THE NEWSPAPERS THERE.

10:11:00 WE ARE TALKING OF A RATE OF APPROXIMATELY $11.10.

10:11:01 AM I CORRECT?

10:11:03 WHAT I SAW THERE?

10:11:05 >> IF WE INCREASE, IT WOULD BE --

10:11:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY MEMORY IS NOT AS GOOD AS IT WAS

10:11:10 YESTERDAY.

10:11:11 >> IT IS PRETTY GOOD.

10:11:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I SEE HERE, AND I WILL GIVE YOU

10:11:14 THE NUMBER.

10:11:17 I WILL GIVE YOU THE NUMBER OF THE NEWSPAPER AND ANY

10:11:20 NUMBER CHECKS MY FIGURES.

10:11:23 AND I WILL GO BY MEMORY I WAS THERE IN 2012.

10:11:26 THE FERRY CONNECTION NEXT TO THE TRAIN FROM SALEM TO

10:11:26 BOSTON.

10:11:29 I CHOSE THE TRAIN BECAUSE IT WAS FASTER AND A LITTLE

10:11:30 LESS INEXPENSIVE.

10:11:35 BUT THE RATE WAS $40, $19 AND $17.

10:11:40 $17 IF YOU LIVE RESIDENCE OF ONE OF THE CITIES IT WENT

10:11:41 TO SALEM.

10:11:48 $19 IF YOU ARE PART OF THE COUNTY AND THE FEE WAS $40.

10:11:51 AND HOLD BIG MEMORY FOR 2012.

10:11:56 THE -- THE CITY OR THE COMPONENTS OF EACH -- WHEREVER

10:11:57 IT STARTED.

10:12:00 WHEREVER IT ENDED WHETHER SALEM OR BOSTON OR PROVIDENCE

10:12:05 AND WHATEVER, THE COST OF -- THEIR ENDOWMENT TO THE

10:12:09 FERRY WAS $700,000 A YEAR.

10:12:11 AND AGAIN I AM GOING BY MEMORY.

10:12:14 AND I LOST MY HAIR BUT MY MEMORY IS STILL WITH ME TO

10:12:15 SOME DEGREE.

10:12:20 AND, AGAIN, I CAN GET THOSE FIGURES BY CALLING A NEWS

10:12:20 PAPER.

10:12:23 WHAT I AM SEEING INSTEAD OF RAPID TRANSIT, SMALLER

10:12:26 BUSES FULL OF PEOPLE, WE HAVE BIG BUSES WITH FEW

10:12:26 PEOPLE.

10:12:29 WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT I SEE IT AND YOU SAY WHY I DO

10:12:32 WANT TO RIDE THE BUS, NOBODY IS THERE.

10:12:35 IT IS LIKE GOING TO THE RESTAURANT, HAVING A GREAT MEAL

10:12:37 AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE EATING.

10:12:38 YOU GO BACK.

10:12:39 SOMETIMES DO YOU AND SOMETIMES YOU DON'T.

10:12:41 BUT THAT'S WHAT WE SEE.

10:12:43 WHY IS IT FULL?

10:12:47 I WILL RATHER SEE MANY SMALL BUSINESSES IN HILLSBOROUGH

10:12:51 COUNTY AND IN THE CITY OF TAMPA -- I DON'T EVEN

10:12:53 APPRECIATE THE EXPRESSWAY BUILDING MORE LANES.

10:12:56 ALL YOU ARE GOING TO DO IN TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS

10:12:59 BUILD MORE LANES BECAUSE THIS IS ALREADY TAKEN.

10:13:02 WE INDUCED TRAVEL AND TRANSPORTATION BY ADDING MORE OR

10:13:03 SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T WANT.

10:13:06 THAT IS MORE CARS AND MORE TRAFFIC IN THE CITY AND

10:13:08 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

10:13:14 SO IF WE HAVE A LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM OF SOME SORT AND A

10:13:17 LOT OF LITTLE BUSES OF SOME SORT, MAYBE -- I AM NOT

10:13:20 SAYING IT WILL, BUT MAYBE IT WILL BE BETTER OFF.

10:13:23 BUT YET WE INVEST IN A FERRY AND COST THAT STARTED OUT

10:13:27 -- I FORGET WHAT IT WAS, $250,000.

10:13:28 EACH GOVERNMENT.

10:13:29 FOUR OR FIVE --

10:13:31 >> $175,000.

10:13:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHATEVER IT WAS.

10:13:35 SOME TIME BACK FOUR, FIVE YEARS.

10:13:38 I JUST NEVER SUPPORTED THIS IN A WAY BECAUSE -- I AM

10:13:40 NOT SAYING YOUR FIGURES ARE WRONG, BUT I AM JUST SAYING

10:13:44 THAT -- IN MY PART, A LOT OF PEOPLE USE IT.

10:13:47 THEY COME HERE, DRIVE AND COME HERE TO DRIVE AND LEAVE

10:13:51 AND CAN'T GET BACK IN THEIR OWN CAR AND COME BACK WHERE

10:13:53 THEY COME FROM.

10:13:55 >> WOULD YOU CARE FOR ME TO RESPOND?

10:13:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT FINISHED YET.

10:14:03 I AM PATIENT, MR. TURANCHIK.

10:14:04 >> I AM PATIENT TOO.

10:14:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT ANYONE TO THINK OR VOTE

10:14:09 LIKE I DO, BUT JUST SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT

10:14:11 IN COMPARISON TO WHAT?

10:14:14 WHAT IF WE HAD SMALL BUSES.

10:14:17 WHAT IF INSTEAD OF WAITING 30 OR 40 MINUTES FOR A BUS,

10:14:19 WE HAD EVERY 10 AND 15 MINUTES.

10:14:20 WOULD THAT IMPROVE?

10:14:21 >> NO.

10:14:26 DEFINITIVELY ABSOLUTELY, CATEGORICALLY NO.

10:14:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO FOR ME BY THE FERRY.

10:14:32 >> BY EXAMPLE, FOUR FERRIES.

10:14:37 EACH FERRY FROM MACDILL, SOUTH COUNTY TO MACDILL, EACH

10:14:42 FERRY, ONE FERRY CARRIES EQUIVALENT OF 16 USES.

10:14:45 EACH OF THOSE BUSES WILL REQUIRE A 80% OPERATING

10:14:49 SUBSIDY AND THE CAPITAL COST OF THOSE BUSES WILL EXCEED

10:14:51 THE CAPITAL COST OF THE FERRIES AND THEY ARE STUCK IN

10:14:53 TRAFFIC SO PEOPLE WOULDN'T TAKE THEM.

10:14:56 THE ADVANTAGE OF FERRY TRANSPORTATION IS THE

10:14:58 RIGHT-OF-WAY IS FREE.

10:15:00 IT'S CONGESTION-PROOF.

10:15:05 AND WE ARE FOOLISH -- FOOLISH NOT TO MAKE USE OF A FREE

10:15:07 ASSET KNOWN AS THE WATER.

10:15:14 THE FERRIES ARE ALLOWING THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA BAY TO

10:15:17 CONNECT AND UNLIKE A LIGHT RAIL VEHICLE, A BUSWAY OR

10:15:20 ANYTHING ELSE, IF THERE IS NO NEED TO USE IT ANYMORE,

10:15:22 YOU CAN'T RECOVER THE COST OF THAT ROAD.

10:15:24 YOU CAN HAVE A BRIDGE TO NOWHERE.

10:15:28 YOU CAN HAVE A RAILLINE.

10:15:31 AND THE FERRIES YOU CAN RESELL FOR THE HIGHEST PRICE

10:15:32 THAN COST TO BUY THEM.

10:15:37 THIS IS EXCEPTIONALLY LOW COST ON AN AMORTIZED COST PER

10:15:41 MILE, THE CAPITAL COST OF THIS FERRY SYSTEM IS LESS

10:15:47 THAN THE RESURFACING COST PER MILE ON STATE ROUTE 60.

10:15:51 THESE ARE NUMBERS AND ABSOLUTELY FACT.

10:15:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS, LET'S KEEP

10:15:56 IT LIKE IT WAS AND CHANGE IT TO THE FERRY.

10:15:59 HOWEVER, IF WE HAVE DONE AND CONTINUE TO DO THIS AND

10:16:01 CHANGE THE WAY WE THINK, MAYBE PEOPLE WOULD RIDE THE

10:16:02 BUS.

10:16:05 MAYBE MORE BUSES, MORE QUICKER SERVICES YOU WOULD GET

10:16:05 THERE.

10:16:08 YOU MENTION SOMEWHERE IN THE DEBATE -- NOT IN THE

10:16:11 DEBATE BUT DISCUSSION, PRESENTATION, BOTH OF YOU, THAT

10:16:13 THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS GOING TO BE BROUGHT IN, IT

10:16:16 WILL BE SPLIT AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

10:16:19 AM I CORRECT?

10:16:21 THAT IS WHAT WE DID WITH THE SPORTS TEAM.

10:16:24 THE FIRST TWO MILLION AND THEN SPLIT.

10:16:26 WHAT A COUNTRY.

10:16:28 >> THE TERMS OF THE OPERATING AGREEMENT WERE ORIGINALLY

10:16:29 --

10:16:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND, MR. TURANCHIK.

10:16:36 I AM NOT GOING THROUGH THE SPECIFIC DETAILS OF THAT

10:16:36 CONTRACT.

10:16:37 I READ THE OTHER ONE.

10:16:39 AFTER YOU GIVE WHAT YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE

10:16:40 SPLIT WHAT IS LEFT.

10:16:42 WHAT LEFT IS VERY LITTLE.

10:16:44 WHY DON'T YOU SPLIT FROM THE BEGINNING INSTEAD OF

10:16:45 HAVING A CAP.

10:16:47 >> I CAN ANSWER THAT.

10:16:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO ANSWER IT,

10:16:51 SIR.

10:16:52 >> YOU JUST ASKED A QUESTION.

10:16:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST GIVING YOU A SCENARIO WHAT IS

10:16:56 HAPPENING IN THIS WHOLE COUNTRY.

10:17:00 NOT ONLY HERE, BUT THE WHOLE COUNTRY, THE RICH GETS

10:17:02 RICHER AND THE POOR GETS POORER.

10:17:05 IF YOU HAD A SYSTEM TO MOVE PEOPLE AROUND, WHICH VERY

10:17:11 HAVEN'T DONE -- I KNOW USED TO CALL IT CHOO-CHOO, AND

10:17:13 YOU ARE RIGHT SHOULD HAVE LIGHT RAIL AND TRANSPORTATION

10:17:14 IN A DIFFERENT MODE.

10:17:16 WE DON'T HAVE IN ANYMORE.

10:17:20 WE KEEP BUILDING AND KEEP ADDING AND KEEP TAKING.

10:17:24 WE ARE ALL GOING TO LIVE UNDER AN EXPRESSWAY VERY SOON.

10:17:25 THERE WILL BE NO SUNSHINE.

10:17:26 VERY LITTLE.

10:17:28 THE PEOPLE AROUND IT.

10:17:31 AND JUST TO ME HAS GOT TO HAVE AN ENDING SOME TIME.

10:17:35 AND PLEASE GO BACK TO SALEM AND I GIVE YOU THE SALEM

10:17:35 NEWSPAPER ARTICLE.

10:17:39 SEE IF I AM AT LEAST CLOSE TO THE FIGURES I AM SEEING.

10:17:43 THE $700,000 WAS GRANT MONEY GIVEN FOR THE MONEY THEY

10:17:44 CHARGED THE CITY.

10:17:47 AND I MAY NOT BE 100% THERE.

10:17:50 >> THERE ARE DIFFERENT FERRY SERVICES.

10:17:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.

10:17:55 NOW I AM QUOTING MYSELF, BECAUSE THAT -- TEN YEARS AGO.

10:17:58 AND I HAVE THE PHONE NUMBER OF THE NEWSPAPER.

10:18:01 YOU CAN GET ALL THE ARTICLES THAT WERE WRITTEN THERE.

10:18:03 IF YOU WANT TO.

10:18:05 MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME.

10:18:07 BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE SAME FERRY --

10:18:09 >> WE WILL FOLLOW UP.

10:18:12 >> FROM SALEM, TO BOSTON TO BACK.

10:18:13 >> THIS DOES NOT RUN THERE.

10:18:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SAID IF IT IS THE SAME SYSTEM,

10:18:17 BUT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHERE IT RUNS.

10:18:18 >> WELL, IF DOES.

10:18:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SEE THE CITIES THAT THEY

10:18:23 RAN -- IF THIS CITY IS PAYING FOR IT.

10:18:27 >> THE PROVINCETOWN -- JUST TO CORRECT THE RECORD, THE

10:18:28 --

10:18:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL GIVE YOU ONE MINUTE FOR

10:18:31 REBUTTAL.

10:18:36 >> RUN FROM BOSTON TO PROVINCETOWN END TO THE CAPE.

10:18:40 OPEN OCEAN WITH A 75-MILE ROUTE.

10:18:45 A SEPARATE FERRY SYSTEM SUBSIDIZE FROM SALEM TO BOSTON.

10:18:48 AND A PRIVATELY OWNED VESSEL THAT WE CHARTER AND BRING

10:18:50 DOWN.

10:18:53 I THINK YOU ARE RUNNING OPEN OCEAN 75 MILES.

10:18:55 GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT RATE FOR THAT JUST LIKE RUNNING

10:19:00 FROM FORT MEYERS DOWN TO KEY WEST IS $125.

10:19:03 BUT THAT IS A VERY BIG VESSEL.

10:19:05 SO THEY ARE APPLES AND ORANGES AND I WILL FOLLOW UP

10:19:07 WITH APPROPRIATE --

10:19:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL GIVE IT TO YOU ONE WAY OR

10:19:11 OTHER.

10:19:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:19:16 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO FOLLOW-UP TO MY COLLEAGUE.

10:19:19 TAMPA HAS -- YOU TALKED ABOUT RICH GETTING RICHER AND

10:19:21 POOR GETTING POORER.

10:19:23 TAMPA, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS -- JUST OF TAMPA AND

10:19:26 NOT OF THE REGION FAILED COMPLETELY THE LAST TEN YEARS.

10:19:32 MIDDLE CLASS SHRANK DURING THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC BOON IN

10:19:33 AMERICAN HISTORY.

10:19:36 POOR PEOPLE GOT POORER AND RICH GOT RICHER.

10:19:39 IN TAMPA BECAUSE OF THE SPECIFIC ECONOMIC POLICIES OF

10:19:42 FUNDING PROJECTS DOWNTOWN AND IGNORING NEIGHBORHOODS,

10:19:45 POOR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND POLICIES THAT PROFILED PEOPLE

10:19:47 BASED ON RACE.

10:19:53 AND ALSO HAVING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT ONLY

10:20:02 BENEFITED RICH PEOPLE AND NOT EQUITABLE AND TRYING TO

10:20:04 CHANGE OUR DEVELOPMENTAL POLICY.

10:20:09 MR. TURANCHIK, THE THIRD YEAR THIS HAS COME UP.

10:20:12 A CRITICISM THIS IS A TOURIST GIMMICK AND NOT A REAL

10:20:13 MODE OF TRANSPORTATION.

10:20:15 CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO EVERYBODY, THE PUBLIC ESPECIALLY

10:20:21 WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN HAVING TWO BOATS MAKING

10:20:23 REGULAR HEADWAYS VERSUS ONE.

10:20:25 AND I THINK EVENTUALLY YOU WILL HAVE FOUR.

10:20:28 BUT WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THE LAST FEW YEARS IS

10:20:32 REALLY A TEST OF THE CONCEPT, BUT IF YOU WERE ABLE TO

10:20:36 HAVE TWO -- TWO BOATS MAKING REGULAR HEADWAYS, ISN'T IT

10:20:38 MORE RELIABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO USE IT FOR TRANSIT

10:20:40 OR OTHER MODES OF --

10:20:44 >> THAT'S CORRECT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:20:49 ANY TRANSIT RIDERSHIP DEPENDS ON FREQUENCY AND

10:20:49 RELIABILITY.

10:20:54 WE RUN 32 TRIPS AT THE TIMES WHEN WE CAN HAVE THE

10:21:01 GREATEST RIDERSHIP BECAUSE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO LIMIT

10:21:04 THE AMOUNT OF SUBSIDIES THEY HAVE IN HERE AND HAVE THE

10:21:06 GREATEST ECONOMIC BENEFIT.

10:21:09 JUST WITH ONE VESSEL THAT WE WOULD OWN WITH THIS GRANT.

10:21:15 WE WILL BE ABLE TO RUN THIS VESSEL DAY LONG 365 DAYS A

10:21:18 YEAR, BECAUSE WE CAN USE OUR OWN CREWS.

10:21:21 WE CAN HIRE LOCAL -- WILL RUN LOCAL.

10:21:25 AND THAT IS GOING TO GIVE US MORE MOBILITY CHOICES.

10:21:30 THE OTHER THING IS EACH VESSEL YOU ADD, YOU GO FROM

10:21:33 VESSEL COMING IN EVERY THREE HOURS TO ONE AND A HALF

10:21:37 HOURS TO ONE HOUR, SO YOU BUILD THIS FREQUENCY.

10:21:41 I READ THE COMMENTS THAT COME IN EVERY WEEK.

10:21:48 AND LITERALLY TENS OF THOUSANDS -- I AM HAPPY TO SHARE

10:21:49 THEM WITH COUNCIL.

10:21:50 IT IS EXTRAORDINARY.

10:21:53 THE PASSION PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT THIS.

10:21:58 THAT IT IS THE BEST THING FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE.

10:22:03 ALL INCOMES HAVE SAID THIS IS SUPER.

10:22:05 THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE.

10:22:12 AND THE BIGGEST CRITICISM WE HAVE IS NOT ENOUGH

10:22:13 SERVICE.

10:22:15 WE WILL TAKE IT MORE IF THERE WAS MORE SERVICE.

10:22:18 BUSES GET STUCK IN TRAFFIC.

10:22:20 YOU GET ON THE BRIDGE, YOU ARE STUCK.

10:22:23 THING ABOUT THE FERRY IS YOU ARE NEVER STUCK IN

10:22:24 TRAFFIC.

10:22:29 99.5% OF THE TRIPS LEFT ON TIME.

10:22:32 AND THEY GET THROUGH THEIR DESTINATION ON TIME.

10:22:36 MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THAT WEST

10:22:39 TAMPA TRIP TO A RAYS GAME THAT ONE TIME.

10:22:43 A THIRD OF US TOOK THE FERRY AND TWO-THIRDS DROVE.

10:22:46 ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT TOOK THE FERRY GOT TO THE FIRST

10:22:47 PITCH.

10:22:48 JUST RELIABILITY.

10:22:49 THANK YOU.

10:22:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:22:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN I LOOK AT THE OVERALL PICTURE, I

10:22:57 HAD AN EXPERIENCE ONCE.

10:23:01 I TOOK 60 KIDS TO NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY TO PLAY A BALL

10:23:04 GAME, YOU KNOW.

10:23:07 AND INNER CITY KIDS.

10:23:09 SO, OF COURSE, THEY NEVER EXPERIENCE $BEING ON THE

10:23:10 WATER.

10:23:15 SO WE GOT TO NEW YORK, TOOK THE FERRY.

10:23:18 THAT FERRY TOOK US FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER AND GET

10:23:23 OFF AND GO TO ALL THE PLACES, THE SITES.

10:23:26 AND IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL THING.

10:23:34 BUT, AGAIN, THAT IS A CITY THAT HAS TRANSIT FOR MANY,

10:23:34 MANY YEARS.

10:23:37 WHEN I LOOK AT OUR BUS SYSTEM HERE -- NOBODY RIDES THE

10:23:38 BUS.

10:23:39 NOBODY RIDES THE BUS.

10:23:41 I LIVE IN THE INNER CITY.

10:23:44 I LOOK AT THE BUS ALL THE TIME.

10:23:44 TAKES TOO LONG.

10:23:47 IT'S HOT.

10:23:50 TAKES TWO HOURS TO GET SO SOME PLACE.

10:23:53 IF I HAD A JOB WORKING IN SOUTH COUNTY, THERE IS NO BUS

10:23:54 THAT COULD GET ME THERE.

10:23:57 SO I CAN'T APPLY FOR THAT JOB.

10:24:00 MAYBE SMALLER BUSES WOULD WORK, BECAUSE MAYBE IT CAN

10:24:01 RUN FAST.

10:24:02 I DON'T KNOW.

10:24:03 THEY HAVEN'T DONE A STUDY ON THAT.

10:24:06 I KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING SEND SPENDING IS ON BIG BUSES

10:24:08 THAT ARE EMPTY.

10:24:11 WHEN I LOOK AT THE FERRY -- WE TALK ABOUT SOUTH COUNTY.

10:24:14 WHEN I LOOK AT SOUTH COUNTY, THERE IS A DIFFERENT TYPE

10:24:17 OF ECONOMIC IMPACT IN SOUTH COUNTY.

10:24:20 SO MY QUESTION IS, WE ARE GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING IN

10:24:23 SOUTH COUNTY TO GO TO MACDILL.

10:24:26 I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO IS THE RIDERS AND WHY SOUTH

10:24:29 COUNTY TO MACDILL?

10:24:33 HOW DOES SOME OF OUR MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES BENEFIT

10:24:35 TO RIDE THE FERRY.

10:24:38 AND THE OVERALL CONCEPT OF THIS FERRY.

10:24:43 TO ME, WHEN IT FIRST CAME TO ME, I BELIEVED IT TO BE A

10:24:45 TOURISM ATTRACTION BECAUSE GOING FROM -- YOU SAY TAMPA

10:24:48 TO THE BALL FIELD AND TO ME TOURISTS.

10:24:52 BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW TOO MANY HISPANIC, BLACK PEOPLE,

10:24:55 LOW-INCOME WHITE FOLKS GETTING -- GOING OVER THERE

10:24:57 BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT.

10:25:00 SO I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE RIDERSHIP OF THIS

10:25:01 WHOLE PROGRAM.

10:25:03 WHO IS RIDING AND THE ACTUAL CONCEPT.

10:25:06 IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT TO ME BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE I

10:25:08 GET LOST A LITTLE BIT.

10:25:11 >> YES, SIR, THE MPO DID A STUDY OF THE POTENTIAL

10:25:14 ROUTES THAT THE FERRY COULD RUN IN 2011 AND 2012.

10:25:21 INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT DID THAT AND IDENTIFIED MACDILLL

10:25:24 IF YOU ARE GOING TO START ANYPLACE FOR A COMMUTER

10:25:29 SERVICE, THIS IS THE PLACE TO START THE LOW-LYING

10:25:30 FRUIT.

10:25:34 80,000 PEOPLE WHO WORK IN SOUTH COUNTY THAT WORK AT

10:25:35 MACDILL.

10:25:38 THE FERRY IS A DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE COMMUNITY

10:25:39 PARTNERSHIP PROJECT.

10:25:45 THE AIR FORCE IS TAKING THE LEAD ON ENVIRONMENTAL

10:25:50 DOCUMENTS IN NEPA HERE.

10:25:54 SO WE WANT TO USE THIS INVENTORY TO DO THE MOST GOOD

10:25:55 FOR THE MOST PEOPLE.

10:25:59 YOU WOULD NOT START ON THE WORST ROUTE WHEN YOU START A

10:26:00 SERVICE.

10:26:01 YOU START ON THE BEST ROUTE.

10:26:05 IN ROUTE WILL NOT RARE AN OPERATING SUBSIDIES BECAUSE

10:26:07 THE FEDERAL EMPLOYEES GET A VOUCHER.

10:26:12 FURTHERMORE, BECAUSE OF THE 350-PASSENGER VESSEL, WHEN

10:26:15 THEY GET TO MACDILL, WE WILL HAVE THE LARGEST

10:26:18 ARTICULATED BUSES ON THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA TO MOVE

10:26:19 PEOPLE AROUND THE BASE.

10:26:21 WE ARE GOING TO RUN THE TRANSIT SYSTEM.

10:26:26 NOT SMALL BUSES, 120-PERSON BUSES, BECAUSE WE DID A

10:26:31 RIDERSHIP SURVEY AT MACDILL AND FOUND THAT 80 TO 90% OF

10:26:36 THE MEN AND WOMEN SURVEYED IN SOUTH COUNTY SAY THEY

10:26:37 WILL USE THE SERVICE.

10:26:41 PEOPLE WHO PROTECT OUR COUNTRY WHO HAVE WORKING KIDS

10:26:42 AND FAMILIES.

10:26:46 AND IT IS GOOD TO DO JUST FOR THEM, IN MY PERSONAL.

10:26:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION, BECAUSE

10:26:49 THAT IS WHAT I FIGURED.

10:26:54 >> LET ME JUST -- IT THEN GOES AND CONNECTS THESE SOUTH

10:26:59 COUNTY WHO HAS NO RESTAURANTS TO YBOR AND DOWNTOWN THAT

10:27:02 DOES AND TO ST. PETERSBURG AND CONNECTS BETWEEN THEM.

10:27:07 AND ANY PERSON UNDER FIVE RIDES FREE.

10:27:11 SO THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF PUSH BACK ON OUR PART AND I

10:27:13 THINK BY SOME OF THE GOVERNMENTS OF NOT WANTING TO

10:27:16 RAISE RATES TO $40 OR $20, BECAUSE WE WANTED THIS TO

10:27:19 BE ACCESSIBLE TO FAMILIES.

10:27:23 SO IF YOU ARE A MOM AND YOU WANT TO TAKE FOUR KIDS ON A

10:27:26 FERRY RIDE BACK AND FORTH, IT WILL COST YOU $20 FOR AS

10:27:29 MANY KIDS YOU WANT TO TAKE WITH YOU.

10:27:31 AND PEOPLE DO THAT.

10:27:33 REMARKABLY, THEY DO IT.

10:27:35 FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE.

10:27:39 IT'S -- I HAVE RIDDEN THE FERRY PROBABLY 30 TIMES, AND

10:27:42 THE PEOPLE WHO RIDE THE FERRIES ARE US.

10:27:43 THEY LOOK LIKE US.

10:27:46 THEY LOOK LIKE OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY.

10:27:46 AND THEY LOVE IT.

10:27:49 YOU KNOW FOR PLACES LIKE YBOR CITY AND TAMPA HEIGHTS

10:27:53 AND AROUND DOWNTOWN, IT'S BUSINESS AND JOBS.

10:27:54 IT IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

10:27:56 SO THAT IS WHO RIDES IT.

10:27:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HONEST AND WE

10:28:01 TALK OF TRANSPARENCY.

10:28:04 WE GET TO THE MEAT OF WHO IS RIDING IT.

10:28:07 A BENEFIT FOR MOST OF OUR MILITARY PEOPLE DO LIVE IN

10:28:07 SOUTH COUNTY.

10:28:11 SO I -- YOU KNOW THE MAJORITY OF THEM DO.

10:28:14 SO THAT WOULD BE A BENEFIT FOR THEM BECAUSE NOW, YOU

10:28:18 KNOW, IT'S -- A SHORTER TRIP FOR THEM TO DRIVE.

10:28:19 I CAN SEE THAT CONCEPT.

10:28:22 I CAN SEE WHY THE GRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE

10:28:23 COMING FORWARD.

10:28:24 I DON'T HAVE ISSUE WITH THAT.

10:28:28 I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF I AM SUPPORTING SOMETHING, WHAT

10:28:29 AM I SUPPORTING.

10:28:34 AND THAT'S WHY I NEED TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT

10:28:36 ACTUALLY THIS FERRY IS DOING.

10:28:41 >> IN THE EVENING AND WEEKEND SERVICE, 60% TO 70% OF

10:28:45 THE TAMPA PASSENGERS LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND LIVE

10:28:47 IN THE URBAN CORE.

10:28:51 FROM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IN EAST TAMPA TO YBOR CITY TO

10:28:56 DOWNTOWN, IT IS CLUSTERED WITHIN A THREE-MILE RADIUS.

10:29:04 AND WITHIN THE DOWNTOWNS, AMAZING, PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN

10:29:06 INTERIM WALK TO THE FERRY.

10:29:09 WALK OR RIDE THEIR BICYCLE.

10:29:12 10% OF PATRONS GETS THEIR BICYCLE.

10:29:15 THIS VISION TO HAVE A TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM THAT WORKS

10:29:18 FOR EVERYONE AND PEOPLE USE IS HERE AND NOW AND NOT A

10:29:20 CONSULTANT STUDY.

10:29:22 NOT SOMETHING FROM ANY OTHER CITY.

10:29:24 IT IS HERE AND NOW AND PEOPLE ARE USING.

10:29:26 AND THEY ARE LOVING IT.

10:29:28 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

10:29:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:29:32 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:29:35 THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND FOR YOUR -- I KNOW

10:29:38 YOU ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.

10:29:41 AND CONGRATULATION ON ALL YOUR RECENT SUCCESS IN THE

10:29:42 FERRIES.

10:29:44 >> OUR SUCCESS.

10:29:45 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, YES, SIR.

10:29:47 YOU KNOW I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN OPEN AND HONEST WITH THE

10:29:50 FERRY AND I ALWAYS HAD A CONFLICT, IF YOU WILL.

10:29:54 A LOT OF THE STATEMENTS I AGREE WITH.

10:29:56 FOOLISH NOT TO USE OUR WATERWAYS AS A WAY TO MOVE OUR

10:29:58 FOLKS AROUND ETC.

10:30:00 WHEN THE NEED IS SO COMPELLING AND GREAT.

10:30:01 AND WHATNOT.

10:30:06 I ALWAYS EXPRESS CONCERNS HOWEVER ON THE -- ON USE OF

10:30:08 CITY DOLLARS, PARTICULARLY FOR THE FERRY.

10:30:12 CRA IS POTENTIALLY ANOTHER THING AND USE OF GENERAL

10:30:15 FUNDS FOR THE FERRY ALWAYS HAD A BIG CHALLENGE FOR THAT

10:30:19 AND REMEMBER -- COUNCILMAN REDDICK SPEAKING YEARS AGO

10:30:21 AND COUNCILMAN GUDES SPOKEN ON THIS AND MADE REFERENCE

10:30:25 TO THIS RIGHT NOW WHICH IS WHO RIDES THE FERRY.

10:30:28 ESPECIALLY WHO DO WE ADVERTISE THE FERRY TO.

10:30:32 I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING HAS EVER BEEN DONE, ET CETERA

10:30:35 IF IT IS -- WHAT PARTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA

10:30:36 ARE ADVERTISED.

10:30:39 NOT SAYING ANYBODY SPECIFICALLY KEPT OUT OR ANYTHING,

10:30:42 BUT IN OTHER WORDS, IS THE FERRY SOMETHING THAT IS

10:30:46 GOING TO BE REALISTICALLY ACCESSIBLE TO ALL OF OUR

10:30:47 CITY.

10:30:50 I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT KIDS UNDER FIVE BEING ALLOWED

10:30:52 TO GO FOR FREE, ETC., ETC.

10:30:54 CERTAIN CONCERNS I HAVE ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO

10:30:56 GENERAL REVENUE FUNDS.

10:31:01 CRA FUNDS IS POTENTIALLY ANOTHER DIFFERENT ISSUE WHEN

10:31:05 COMES FROM DOWNTOWN CRA OPINION EYE USE A DIFFERENTIAL

10:31:10 NAIL SIS ON THAT BUT SOME LEFT OF SKEPTICISM.

10:31:14 I NEVER CONSIDERED MYSELF A SUPPORTER OF THE FERRY OR

10:31:19 TO OF GOING NEW ANALYSIS AT THE TIME.

10:31:23 BUT, AGAIN, YOU GUYS HAVE OBVIOUSLY GOTTEN A LOT OF

10:31:25 VICTORIES INCLUDING ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL WITH THAT.

10:31:28 IF WE CAN GET THIS TO BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE FIRST

10:31:31 RATE AND USED BY ALL SECTORS OF OUR CITY, IT WOULD

10:31:34 REALLY BE SOMETHING THAT IS MAGNIFICENT FOR OUR CITY

10:31:36 AND WHATNOT.

10:31:41 >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC CRA POINT.

10:31:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE-MINUTE REBUTTAL.

10:31:45 >> NOT A REBUTTAL.

10:31:50 JUST THE PRINCIPAL BUSINESSES THAT BENEFIT FROM THE

10:31:53 FERRY ARE ALL LOCATED IN CRAS.

10:31:56 95% OF THEM ARE.

10:32:00 AND FOR YOU TO DECIDE HOW CRA DOLLARS ARE USED.

10:32:04 BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF THE CRA IS TO KIND OF PUSH AND

10:32:09 PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE AREAS.

10:32:12 AND BRINGING PEOPLE BACK IN WHO OTHERWISE WOULD NOT BE

10:32:15 THERE SPENDING $40 PER PERSON.

10:32:17 I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GETS BETTER THAN THAT.

10:32:21 WHETHER YOU USE GENERAL REVENUES OR CRA DOLLARS OR

10:32:23 TRANSPORTATION DOLLARS IS YOUR POLICY POINT.

10:32:26 BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THIS, IF YOU SAY WE AREN'T

10:32:29 GOING TO DO THIS, YOU WILL HEAR FROM DOZENS AND DOZENS

10:32:33 OF RESTAURANTS SAYING, WHAT ARE YOU DOING.

10:32:37 THESE ARE SEATS IN BUTTS.

10:32:39 COMING OUT OF COVID, THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

10:32:41 THAT IS PART OF ALL OF OUR CITY.

10:32:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY.

10:32:46 >>MORRIS MASSEY: MISS VAN HORN MAY BE ABLE TO CLARIFY

10:32:47 SOME OF THESE POINTS.

10:32:50 SITTING AT THE CRA, I THINK THE BULK OF THE DOLLARS

10:32:53 SPENT LAST YEAR OR OUR CONTRIBUTION OF THIS CAME OUT OF

10:32:54 THE DOWNTOWN CRA.

10:32:58 AND IT WAS ONE -- THE DOWNTOWN CRA FUND JUST TO MAKE

10:33:00 THAT CLEAR ON THE RECORD SO IT IS NOT ALL THE OTHER

10:33:03 CRAS THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING.

10:33:07 THE BULK OF IT IS COMING OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA.

10:33:11 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: 125 FROM THE CRA --

10:33:12 [INAUDIBLE]

10:33:14 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU WANTED TO HAVE THIS ANNUAL

10:33:17 CONVERSATION TO MAKE SURE THIS IS SOMETHING YOU FELT

10:33:21 COMFORTABLE ALLOCATING CRA FUNDS FOR ON AN ANNUAL

10:33:22 BASIS.

10:33:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILWOMAN

10:33:26 HURTAK, EXCUSE ME.

10:33:28 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO OTHER POINTS.

10:33:31 ONE IS, THIS IS ABOUT REGIONAL COOPERATION, WHICH WE

10:33:38 HAVE BEEN IN SHORT SUPPLY OF RECENTLY.

10:33:45 IT IS -- FORMER COMMISSIONER WAS ON ONE OF THE LEADER

10:33:47 ON THAT.

10:33:48 OTHER GOVERNMENTS.

10:33:50 ARE WE THE LAST ONES ON THIS?

10:33:54 >> UNDER THE TERM OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, YOU

10:33:55 HAVE TO ACTIVELY SAY NO.

10:33:57 YOU ARE COMMITTED TO FUND THIS --

10:33:59 >>BILL CARLSON: ALL OF THE OTHERS HAVE COMMITTED.

10:34:02 >> EVERYONE HAS ENTERED INTO THE AGREEMENT AND TAKE AN

10:34:05 AFFIRMATIVE DECISION BY YOU NOT TO FUND IT.

10:34:06 >>BILL CARLSON: SO ANYWAY.

10:34:09 >> YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION BY JUNE 1.

10:34:10 >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS NOT ASKING A CONTRACTUAL

10:34:13 QUESTION, BUT MORE THE COMMITMENT OF THE REGION.

10:34:15 THE REST OF THE REGION HAS COME TOGETHER AND THE FIRST

10:34:20 PERSON WHO STOOD ON IT WAS MAYOR KRISMAN AND TOOK A

10:34:23 STRONG LEADERSHIP POSITION TO BRING THE REGION TOGETHER

10:34:24 AND COOPERATION.

10:34:27 THE MORE WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER, THE MORE WE GET

10:34:28 ALONG.

10:34:29 MACDILL WAS MENTIONED.

10:34:31 MACDILL IS IN MY DISTRICT.

10:34:34 THE PEOPLE SOUTH OF GANDY WHO COME ALL THE TIME AND

10:34:37 PULLING THEIR HAIR OUT ABOUT TRAFFIC AND REALLY UPSET

10:34:38 OF THE TRAFFIC THAT IS THERE.

10:34:42 I LIVE ON DALE MABRY NEAR MACDILL FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND

10:34:46 MOST OF THE TIME I COULDN'T GET IN AND OUT OF MY CONDO,

10:34:49 BECAUSE THE -- MACDILL WAS BACKED UP FOR A LONG TIME.

10:34:51 AND YOU COULD SEE WHEN THERE WAS SOME KIND OF OPERATION

10:34:55 GOING ON IN MACDILL, BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN TIMES OF

10:34:58 DAY WHEN THEY ARE CHANGING SHIFTS AND NOT AT THAT RIGHT

10:35:00 TIME, YOU SEE SOMETHING HEAVY.

10:35:04 BACKED UP FROM MACDILL ALL THE WAY PAST -- PAST GANDY

10:35:05 NORTH.

10:35:08 AND BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET IN THERE AND THE

10:35:11 EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH D.O.T. TO

10:35:13 GET A SPECIAL GATE AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.

10:35:14 THREE GATES.

10:35:17 THE OTHER ONE COMES BY WHERE I LIVE NOW WHICH IS

10:35:19 BAYSHORE, THE SOUTHERN PART OF BAYSHORE.

10:35:23 I CAN'T GET ON TO BAYSHORE NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE BACKED

10:35:28 UP FOUR OR FIVE STREETS TRYING TO GET ON GANDY FROM

10:35:29 BAYSHORE.

10:35:31 YOU CAN SEE THE AIR FORCE STICKERS ON THE CAR.

10:35:35 IF YOU CAN TAKE MAJOR TRAFFIC OFF THE ROADS PUT RELIEF

10:35:38 ON US FROM HAVING TO SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WIDENING

10:35:44 DALE MABRY AND EXTENSION OF THE EXPRESSWAY AND WIDENING

10:35:45 THE GATES OF MACDILL.

10:35:48 HOW MANY CARS A DAY WILL IT TAKE OFF?

10:35:52 >> WITH THE GOOD WORK THAT DANA DID AND EVERYONE TO

10:35:56 SUPPORT THE GRANT AND 350, WE CAN TAKE 2,000 CARS OFF

10:35:57 THE ROAD EVERY PEAK HOUR.

10:36:00 AND FOR THOSE OF YOU FAMILIAR WITH TRANSPORTATION, THAT

10:36:04 THE EQUIVALENT OF A FULL LANE OF INTERSTATE, THAT

10:36:05 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, TO YOUR POINT.

10:36:09 IF YOU HAVE TO BUILD IT WOULD COST $1.2 BILLION.

10:36:12 SO IN TERMS OF THIS PROVIDING ALTERNATIVE

10:36:14 TRANSPORTATION CAPACITY, IT WORKS.

10:36:18 TWO WAYS TO SOLVE YOUR TRANSPORTATION PROBLEMS.

10:36:21 UNFORTUNATELY, WE FOUND A THIRDS ONE IN COVID, AND WE

10:36:21 DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

10:36:24 YOU BUILD CAPACITY, OR YOU DIVERT CAPACITY.

10:36:27 AND THE FERRY DOES A VERY FINE JOB OF THAT.

10:36:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MASSEY.

10:36:30 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I KNOW YOU WEREN'T TALKING OF

10:36:33 CONTRACTUAL ISSUE, BUT THE REASON IT IS COMING UP AT

10:36:36 THIS TIME IS THAT YOU ALL REQUESTED IT -- THAT WE DO

10:36:39 LOOK AT THIS IN APRIL, BECAUSE THE OPT-OUT TIME WOULD

10:36:43 HAVE TO POSITIVE ACTION OF THE GOVERNMENT TO OPT OUT

10:36:45 WOULD BE SOME TIME IN JUNE.

10:36:49 >> JUNE 1.

10:36:52 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT IS WHY IT IS BEING BROUGHT

10:36:54 FORWARD JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD.

10:36:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

10:36:57 >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

10:37:00 I DO BELIEVE THAT ADDING THE FERRY BETWEEN MACDILL AND

10:37:04 SOUTH COUNTY WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC ALL OVER THE

10:37:05 CITY.

10:37:08 ONE OF THE THINGS YOU BROUGHT UP, THOUGH, WAS BICYCLE

10:37:12 RIDERS AND HOW 10% RIDE THEIR BIKE TO THE FERRY.

10:37:15 ONE COMPLAINT I HAVE HEARD IS THAT THERE IS ONLY SO

10:37:17 MANY BIKE SPOTS ON THE FERRY.

10:37:20 AND THAT -- THAT IT IS TRICKY IF YOU GO DOWN THERE TO

10:37:24 GET ON THE FERRY TO, SAY, GO OVER TO ST. PETE AND NO

10:37:28 BIKE SPACES AND YOU WERE PLANNING ON BIKING TO YOUR

10:37:29 DESTINATION WHEN YOU GOT TO ST. PETE.

10:37:33 CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT?

10:37:34 >> SURE, OF COURSE.

10:37:38 THERE IS ABOUT 16 SPACES FOR BICYCLISTS.

10:37:39 AND THEN ON THE FRONT.

10:37:42 AND PEOPLE PUT THEM IN THE BACK.

10:37:45 THE DESIGN OF THIS BOAT IS NOT AS A COMMUTER.

10:37:48 IT IS DESIGNED FOR RUNNING BETWEEN BOSTON AND

10:37:52 PROVINCETOWN WHERE YOU TAKE 30 MINUTES TO LOAD PEOPLE.

10:37:54 THE VESSELS THAT WE WILL DESIGN WILL BE FRONT LOADING

10:37:59 WITH BIKE RACKS UP FRONT.

10:38:01 SO WE DO THE BEST WE CAN.

10:38:04 WE HAD TO INCREASE THE DWELL TIME AT THE DOCK IN TAMPA

10:38:07 FROM 15 MINUTES TO 30 MINUTES ON WEEKENDS BECAUSE OF

10:38:10 BICYCLES AND STROLLERS GETTING ON.

10:38:12 IT LOADS ON THE SIDE AND NOT THE FRONT.

10:38:16 SO IT IS A LIMITATION, AGAIN, OF HAVING TO CHARTER A

10:38:20 VESSEL THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY DESIGNED FOR THIS

10:38:26 SPECIFICALLY, BUT THE FUTURE VESSELS WILL BE.

10:38:29 AND YOU TALKED TO CYCLISTS, THEY LOVE IT.

10:38:31 I MEAN -- GO DOWN THERE ANY WEEKEND.

10:38:35 YOU JUST SEE PEOPLE COMING OFF WITH BICYCLES EITHER WAY

10:38:39 AND RIDE THEIR BIKE OVER, RIDE AROUND OR VICE VERSA.

10:38:40 IT IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.

10:38:46 BUT THAT IS A LIMITATION OF THE CHARTER VESSEL THAT

10:38:47 WILL BE FOR US.

10:38:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITHOUT ANY MORE QUESTIONS, MR.

10:38:53 TURANCHIK, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

10:38:55 I WILL MAKE THIS LAST -- AND JUST A STATEMENT.

10:38:59 MACDILL WILL BE THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK AND WOULD

10:39:01 PLEASE THE MOST PEOPLE.

10:39:06 AROUND WASHINGTON D.C., YOU HAVE THE BELTWAY, MILITARY

10:39:10 PERSONNEL GET FREE PASSES ON THAT BUSWAY.

10:39:17 WE ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH -- "WE" THE TAMPA BAY AREA NOT

10:39:19 SMART ENOUGH TO GIVE OUR MILITARY PERSONNEL SUNPASSES

10:39:21 TO USE OUR CROSSTOWN.

10:39:24 SORRY, LEE ROY SELMON.

10:39:32 THEN MACDILL WOULD MOVE THE MOST PEOPLE, NOT VEHICLES,

10:39:32 PEOPLE.

10:39:39 AND WOULD ALSO FREE UP OUR STREETS FOR THE RESIDENTS ON

10:39:40 OUR OWN STREETS.

10:39:42 WE WOULD HAVE A WIN-WIN SITUATION.

10:39:46 AND ALL OF THIS I WOULD VOTE FOR THE MACDILL BEFORE ANY

10:39:47 OF THE OTHER FERRIES.

10:39:52 THANK YOU, MR. TURANCHIK FOR YOUR INFORMATION.

10:39:54 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, UNFORTUNATELY YOU WILL GET

10:39:55 THEM BOTH.

10:39:59 THANK YOU.

10:40:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS VAN LOAN.

10:40:06 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: MICHELLE VAN LOAN, COMMUNITY

10:40:08 REDEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

10:40:12 ITEM NUMBER 3 IS A RESPONSE TO COUNCILMAN VIERA'S

10:40:18 MOTION ON THE ACCESSIBILITY STUDY AND PLAN BY THE PARKS

10:40:22 DEPARTMENT AND HOW CAN THE CRAS POTENTIALLY PARTNER

10:40:27 WITH PARKS AND REC TO HELP SPEED UP AND EXPEDITE THE

10:40:30 IMPLEMENTATION OF THEIR PLAN.

10:40:36 OFF MEMO FROM SHERISHA HILLS, THE PARKS DIRECTOR,

10:40:40 EXPLAINING THE MASTER STUDY, WHAT WENT INTO THAT, HOW

10:40:43 THEY PRIORITIZE THE IMPROVEMENTS THEY DO EACH YEAR

10:40:46 BASED ON THE FUNDING THEY HAVE EACH YEAR.

10:40:48 RIGHT NOW THERE IS A BALANCE OF A LITTLE OVER $3

10:40:53 MILLION ON THEIR LIST FOR PARKS THAT ARE WITHIN THE

10:40:56 CRAS.

10:41:00 AND WHAT WE WOULD DO IS -- SHE HAS DIVIDED THAT UP.

10:41:02 PARKS HAVE DIVIDED THAT UP.

10:41:05 WE HAVE IT IN DETAIL BY EVERY PARK.

10:41:08 WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDED ITEMS ALSO SORTED BY WHAT OUR

10:41:12 IMPROVEMENTS, REMOVAL OF BARRIERS, ADDING ACCESSIBILITY

10:41:16 AND THE FLIPSIDE OF ACTUALLY, ALSO, INCREASING

10:41:22 INCLUSIVE AND INTERACTIVE PLAY EQUIPMENT AT EACH OF THE

10:41:24 PARKS.

10:41:28 SO WE WILL WORK WITH EACH OF OUR CACS AND BRING THE

10:41:32 RESPECTIVE COSTS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO ALLOW THE CACS TO

10:41:35 ALLOW THEM TO WORK ON WHAT THEIR PROSPECTIVE BUDGETS

10:41:40 WILL HANDLE AND WHAT DEGREE THEY CAN HELP EXPEDITE

10:41:41 THAT.

10:41:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:41:47 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

10:41:50 THANK YOU FOR YOUR MEMO AND ALL YOUR WORK.

10:41:53 CRAS A LOT OF THE TIME -- MOST OF THE TIME DEAL WITH

10:41:57 INCOME THAT ARE LOWER INCOME, BLIGHTED, IGNORED,

10:41:59 MARGINALIZED.

10:42:02 AND, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND

10:42:07 A LOT OF CITY PARKS THAT NEED ACCESSIBILITY WHERE LOWER

10:42:10 INCOME FOLKS LIVE AND EVERYDAY WORKING PEOPLE LIVE.

10:42:14 AND I THINK THIS IS A VERY WISE USE OF CRA DOLLARS.

10:42:17 IT WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC TO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

10:42:19 IT WILL MAKE THESE FAMILIES RAISING CHILDREN WITH

10:42:23 DISABILITIES FEEL THAT THEY ARE INVOLVED, AND THAT THEY

10:42:25 ARE AFFIRMED.

10:42:28 AND IT WILL PUT THE CRA ON THE SIDE OF ECONOMIC

10:42:30 DEVELOPMENT FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

10:42:32 I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

10:42:36 AND I THINK IF THE CRA CAN HELP CUT DOWN THAT

10:42:39 SIGNIFICANT MULTIMILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT, THAT IT IS A

10:42:43 WISE USE OF CRA DOLLARS AND WHATNOT.

10:42:46 SO I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION ON THAT IF I WILL -- IF I

10:42:50 MAY, AND WHATNOT, FOR THIS TO COME BACK US TO, SAY, IN

10:42:53 MAYBE SIX MONTHS OR SO TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

10:42:56 AND THEN WITH THE ANNUAL REPORTING ON THIS -- BECAUSE I

10:42:58 THINK THIS SHOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR OUR CRA WHICH IS

10:43:02 MAKING SURE THAT OUR PARTS HAVE ACCESSIBILITY FOR

10:43:06 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND WHATNOT.

10:43:08 IT WILL GET MORE PEOPLE TO OUR PARKS.

10:43:12 HELP ECONOMICALLY, BLIGHTED AREAS.

10:43:15 A PERFECT FIT WITH THE PURPOSE OF CRAS.

10:43:18 I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS, MICHELLE, BUT WE COULD TALK

10:43:18 ABOUT THAT.

10:43:23 BUT THIS IS -- DOES THIS GET BROUGHT UP TO EACH CRA

10:43:23 BOARD?

10:43:26 HOW WILL THAT WORK IN WE MADE A MOTION IN THAT REGARD?

10:43:29 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, APRIL,

10:43:32 MAY AND JUNE, OUR RESPECTED CACS ARE STARTING THEIR

10:43:37 DISCUSSION ON THEIR BUDGETS FOR FY '23.

10:43:41 EACH CRA MANAGER WILL BE GIVEN A DETAILED LIST FOR EACH

10:43:44 OF THE PARKS AND WHAT THEY NEED AND THAT WILL BE PART

10:43:47 OF THE DISCUSSION AT THEIR CACS AND THEY WILL VOTE ON

10:43:48 THAT.

10:43:52 AGAIN, SOME OF THE CRAS HAVE A MUCH SMALLER BUDGET AND

10:43:55 SURPRISINGLY BECAUSE OF THE TAMPA PARK PLAZA.

10:43:59 CENTRAL PARK COMES IN AS THE -- WHEN WE RANK THEM, THE

10:44:02 ONE WITH THE THIRD HIGHEST BUDGET AT 268.

10:44:06 AND THEY ONLY HAVE A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

10:44:09 AND EAST TAMPA, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PARKS BECAUSE

10:44:12 OF THE SIZE, AT ONE AND A HALF MILLION.

10:44:15 BUT THE VAST MAJORITY IS FOR UPGRADING THE ACTUAL PLAY

10:44:19 EQUIPMENT ITSELF AND BRING THAT ENHANCED EXPERIENCE FOR

10:44:21 THE YOUTH IN THE AREA.

10:44:22 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

10:44:25 IN CLOSING, VERY PIVOTAL INVESTMENT THAT WE CAN MAKE TO

10:44:29 ENSURE THAT FAMILIES AND RAISING CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL

10:44:31 NEEDS HAVE ACCESS TO CITY PLAYGROUNDS.

10:44:35 I DON'T THINK THERE IS A BETTER CAUSE FOR OUR CRAS,

10:44:36 THANK YOU.

10:44:40 >> FOR OUR BUDGET, WE COME TO YOU IN THE SUMMER FOR OUR

10:44:42 PRESENTATION LIKE WHICH DO WITH THE HOUSING, WE CAN

10:44:46 ALSO CALL OUT SO YOU SEE FROM EACH OF THE BUDGETS HOW

10:44:49 MUCH WAS PUT IN THERE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD

10:44:51 INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ANY OF THE PARK PROJECTS TO YOU KNOW

10:44:52 WHAT IT IS.

10:44:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:44:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:44:58 I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT FOR MR. VIERA MAKING SURE

10:45:02 THESE THINGS FOR DISABLED KIDS AND THAT -- THAT THEY

10:45:04 HAVE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT

10:45:05 THEMSELVES.

10:45:06 IT IS ALL OF US.

10:45:09 AND IN EVERY PARK, EVERY DOLLAR THAT THIS CITY SPENDS

10:45:12 AND I THINK WE ARE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB, ESPECIALLY

10:45:17 SHERISHA HILLS, THE WAY SHE IS ADDRESSING THESE THINGS.

10:45:20 NO MATTER IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY, EAST, WEST, NORTH

10:45:21 AND SOUTH.

10:45:24 NO MATTER THE INCOME LEVEL AND WHAT COLOR YOU ARE, IF

10:45:27 YOU HAVE A PARK TO GO TO, LESS POTENTIAL TO GET IN

10:45:28 TROUBLE IN LIFE.

10:45:31 IF YOU DON'T GO TO THE PARK, YOU HAVE A HIGHER PERCENT

10:45:32 OF GETTING IN TROUBLE.

10:45:36 THE PARK TEACHES YOU A LOT OF THINGS.

10:45:37 IT TEACHES YOU TO WIN.

10:45:39 BEFORE YOU WIN, YOU ARE GOING TO LEARN HOW TO LOSE.

10:45:43 ONLY THROUGH PRACTICE, THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO WIN.

10:45:45 AND LOSING TEACHES YOU ONE THING, YOU GET UP AND TRY

10:45:46 AGAIN.

10:45:49 BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T GET UP AND TRY AGAIN, YOU ARE

10:45:50 ALWAYS GOING TO LOSE.

10:45:53 THE PARK AND RECREATION GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO PLAY

10:45:54 WITH PEOPLE.

10:45:57 TO HAVE CONVERSATION.

10:45:58 TO SHARE IDEAS.

10:46:02 TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE AREA THAT MAKES YOU AN

10:46:05 OUTSTANDING CITIZEN LATER ON IN LIFE.

10:46:07 AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED ALL OVER THE CITY

10:46:10 AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THE CRA IS DOING TO

10:46:13 ACCOMMODATE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND MAKING SURE THESE

10:46:14 THINGS ARE ATTAINABLE.

10:46:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:46:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A SECOND TO COUNCILMAN VIERA'S MOTION.

10:46:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A LONG SECOND, YES, SIR.

10:46:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: RESTATE YOUR MOTION.

10:46:29 I WAS GOING TO TAKE THE MOTION AND THEN MAKE COMMENTS.

10:46:31 MAKE YOUR MOTION AGAIN, PLEASE.

10:46:34 >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, EVERYBODY -- THIS IS A DRAFT, SO

10:46:37 TO SPEAK, ANYBODY WITH SUGGESTIONS, ETC.

10:46:40 A MOTION TO STAFF TO DEDICATE FUNDS -- MICHELLE,

10:46:43 SHOULD WE GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC MONETARY AMOUNT.

10:46:46 I KNOW YOU SAID A $3 MILLION DEFICIT.

10:46:50 SHOULD WE LOOK TO A CERTAIN NUMBER, HALF A MILLION OR

10:46:53 MILLION TO HAVE MORE SPECIFICITY IN THE MOTION?

10:46:58 >> BECAUSE IT IS ACROSS VARIOUS CRAS HOW THAT WILL PLAY

10:47:01 OUT, BUT I PROMISE THAT OUR MANAGERS WILL LOOK WITHIN

10:47:03 THEIR BUDGETS.

10:47:07 LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, YBOR HAS BEEN PAYING FOR THEIR TWO

10:47:10 BIG PROJECTS, SO THEY MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE LIMITED

10:47:12 NEXT YEAR, BUT THEY ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS.

10:47:14 SO WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK.

10:47:17 AND MANY OF THEN ON THE SMALLER SIDE WILL BE ABLE TO

10:47:19 KNOCK THEM OUT IN ONE YEAR.

10:47:20 >>BILL CARLSON: GREAT.

10:47:22 MY MOTION WOULD BE TO ASK STAFF TO LOOK AT DEDICATING

10:47:27 FUNDS WITH OBVIOUSLY THE COOPERATION OF OUR CACS,

10:47:29 GETTING THEIR INPUT, ETC.

10:47:34 MAKING CRA PARKS ACCESSIBLE WITH EQUIPMENT FOR

10:47:36 PERSONS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND DISABILITIES.

10:47:40 I MOTION THAT THIS RETURNS TO US, LET'S SAY, IN

10:47:41 OCTOBER.

10:47:43 DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME?

10:47:44 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: WE ARE ACTUALLY COMING BACK TO

10:47:46 YOU IN AUGUST FOR THE BUDGET.

10:47:48 SO YOU WILL HAVE ALL OF THAT IN THE BUDGET.

10:47:51 >>LUIS VIERA: THEN LET THAT HAVE COMING BACK TO US IN

10:47:52 AUGUST.

10:47:53 WHY THE HECK NOT.

10:47:57 AND AT THE SAME TIME, DO AN ANNUAL REPORTING.

10:47:58 THAT IS MY MOTION.

10:48:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:48:02 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:48:03 ANY DISCUSSION?

10:48:05 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:48:07 >>BILL CARLSON: I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN VIERA

10:48:10 FOR BRINGING THIS UP AND STAYING ON TOP OF THIS ISSUE.

10:48:14 NICE WE ALL HAVE OUR AREA OF EXPERTISE AND RELY ON

10:48:17 COUNCILMAN VIERA TO BE A CHAMPION FOR ACCESSIBILITY.

10:48:19 I THINK IT IS -- THREE THINGS ABOUT THIS.

10:48:23 ONE IS IT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE INCLUSIVE

10:48:27 THAT OUR PARKS AND PUBLIC FACILITIES HAVE ACCESSIBLE TO

10:48:29 EVERYONE JUST BECAUSE OF THE FAIRNESS ISSUE.

10:48:32 WE WANT EVERYBODY TO FEEL WELCOME AND INCLUSIVE IN THE

10:48:33 COMMUNITY.

10:48:37 NUMBER TWO, THE ONLINE REPUTATION OF OUR COMMUNITY AND

10:48:40 COMMUNITIES AROUND THE WORLD IS PARTLY DEFINED BY

10:48:41 ACCESSIBILITY.

10:48:44 IF WE ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE, INCLUDING

10:48:46 VISITORS WILL HELP OUR REPUTATION AND ECONOMIC

10:48:47 DEVELOPMENT.

10:48:50 THE THIRD THING IS THAT -- THE GREAT THING ABOUT THIS.

10:48:54 ALTHOUGH THE CRA MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT IN CRA

10:48:57 DISTRICTS, THE PARKS ARE ACCESSIBLE THROUGH PEOPLE

10:48:58 THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

10:49:00 AND PEOPLE LIKE TO CHANGE THINGS UP AND GO TO PARKS

10:49:02 THAT ARE NOT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

10:49:06 ALTHOUGH WE ARE MAKING INVESTMENT THROUGH THE CRA IN A

10:49:10 SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

10:49:13 ANYBODY FROM THE CITY CAN GO AND ENJOY THESE PARKS AND

10:49:15 SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY CAN BENEFIT FROM.

10:49:16 THANK YOU.

10:49:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS.

10:49:19 ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

10:49:20 OPPOSED?

10:49:21 MOTION PASSES.

10:49:24 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: ITEM NUMBER 4 IS A CULMINATION OF

10:49:27 SEVERAL OF COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTIONS REGARDING TAMPA

10:49:29 UNION STATION.

10:49:33 WE HAVE JACKSON MCQUICK ON THE LINE, I DO BELIEVE, FROM

10:49:37 FRIENDS OF TAMPA UNION STATION FOR A VERY BRIEF

10:49:38 PRESENTATION.

10:49:40 YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE PRESENTATION.

10:49:44 AND THEN WE HAVE MISS COLINA TO COME AFTER HIM WITH THE

10:49:50 DETAILS ON THE CITY SIDE AND TALK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD.

10:50:00 ARE YOU THERE, JACKSON?

10:50:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ARE MUTED, SIR.

10:50:14 YOU ARE STILL MUTED.

10:50:15 >> ALL RIGHT.

10:50:16 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THERE WE GO.

10:50:21 >> ALL RIGHT, FANTASTIC.

10:50:23 SO I AM A BOARD MEMBER AND VOLUNTEER.

10:50:28 I'M JACKSON MCQUIGG.

10:50:30 BOARD MEMBER OF FRIEND OF TAMPA UNION STATION --

10:50:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME, CAN YOU SHARE YOUR SCREEN,

10:50:34 PLEASE.

10:50:37 >> YES, I HAVE SHARED MY SCREEN.

10:50:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN WE GET THE PRESENTATION ON OUR

10:50:49 SCREENS, PLEASE.

10:50:51 >> ARE YOU SEEING IT NOW?

10:50:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOT YET ON OUR SCREENS OR ON OUR

10:50:54 MONITORS.

10:50:56 CCTV, ARE YOU BACK THERE?

10:51:01 ONE MORE SECOND.

10:51:03 THANK YOU, YES, WE CAN.

10:51:04 PROCEED.

10:51:05 >> WONDERFUL.

10:51:05 ALL RIGHT.

10:51:09 SO AS I MENTIONED, I AM A BOARD MEMBER AND VOLUNTEER

10:51:12 WITH FRIENDS OF TAMPA UNION STATION.

10:51:15 WE ARE A NONPROFIT ALL VOLUNTEER GROUP AND WE HAVE BEEN

10:51:19 WORKING WITH THE TAMPA STAFF AND THE FACILITY

10:51:23 DEPARTMENT STAFF AMONG OTHERS ON FUTURE PLANS FOR TAMPA

10:51:24 UNION STATION.

10:51:26 A BRIEF HISTORY.

10:51:31 TAMPA UNION STATION IS ONE OF TAMPA'S FRONT DOORS.

10:51:34 THE SECOND SCREEN SHOWS SOME PRESENT CONDITIONS.

10:51:37 IT IS ALSO USED FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS.

10:51:41 IT IS ALSO THE THIRD BUSIEST AMTRAK STATION IN THE

10:51:43 STATE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

10:51:47 COVID HAS SET IT BACK A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT

10:51:49 TRANSPORTATION FACILITY NOT ONLY FOR NOW BUT FOR THE

10:51:51 FUTURE AS WELL.

10:51:56 ON THIS THIRD SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE -- WINDOWS

10:52:00 THAT WERE INSTALLED DURING THE 1998 RESTORATION WHICH

10:52:03 WAS DONE BY A NONPROFIT GROUP CALLED TAMPA UNION

10:52:05 STATION PRESERVATION AND REDEVELOPMENT AS PART OF A

10:52:07 BROADER COMMUNITY EFFORT.

10:52:11 THE WINDOWS FROM THE 90S ARE FAILING.

10:52:17 AND AS THE SIDE INDICATES RAIN WATER LEAKS THAT HAVE

10:52:21 LARGELY BEEN CORRECTED INSIDE THE MAIN WAITING ROOM FOR

10:52:25 THE STATION; HOWEVER, THE DAMAGE THAT THE RAIN WATER

10:52:27 DID STILL REQUIRES CORRECTION.

10:52:30 AS THE NEXT SLIDE INDICATES, WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL

10:52:33 PROBLEMS AS WELL.

10:52:38 THE BUILDING, CITY AND TAMPA OWNED AND MANAGED, AND THE

10:52:41 FACILITIES DEPARTMENT DOES A GREAT JOB OF DEALING WITH

10:52:43 A 110-YEAR-OLD BUILDING.

10:52:45 BUT IT IS A 110-YEAR-OLD BUILDING.

10:52:48 WE HAVE PARTS OF THE RESTORATION FROM THE 90S THAT ARE

10:52:55 FILING INCLUDING THE CITIES AND THE PORTE COCHERE AREA.

10:52:58 WE UNFORTUNATELY HAVE A TERMITE INFESTATION IN THE

10:53:02 BUILDING THAT WILL REQUIRE TENTING AND FOR AMTRAK TO

10:53:08 BRIEFLY MOVE OUT TO THE TERMITES WILL BE DRIVEN AWAY.

10:53:12 A HIGH-LEVEL OUTLINE OF THE PAST FORWARD.

10:53:16 WE REALIZE WE HAVE SOME ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE

10:53:17 ADDRESSED RIGHT NOW.

10:53:20 OBVIOUSLY THE TERMITE INFESTATION.

10:53:23 WORKING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA STAFF TO ADDRESS

10:53:27 IMMEDIATE CONCERNS UTILIZING $1.1 MILLION IN CRA FUNDS

10:53:31 THAT WE WERE SO FORTUNATE TO RECEIVE FROM THE CRA.

10:53:38 THE CRA IS A VALUABLE RESOURCE FOR AS A MATCH FOR GRANT

10:53:41 OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

10:53:44 AND I AM GOING TO SPEAK ON THAT IN A LITTLE MORE

10:53:44 DETAIL.

10:53:48 CONCURRENTLY -- AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT -- THE CITY

10:53:50 STAFF AND OUR VOLUNTEERS, PEOPLE HAVE ALL WALKS OF LIFE

10:53:55 WITH A VARYING BACKGROUNDS AND TALENTS LIKE REAL ESTATE

10:54:00 AND ARCHITECT ON BOARD, AND A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE.

10:54:02 WE ARE GOING TO ALL WORK TOGETHER TO DEVELOP A

10:54:06 STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN FOR THE STATION.

10:54:08 AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE WILL SEEK NEW SOURCES OF

10:54:12 RECURRING REVENUE FOR TAMPA UNION STATION SO THE

10:54:16 BUILDING CAN CONTINUE TO FUNCTION AND HELP PAY FOR SOME

10:54:19 OF ITS OWN UPKEEP IN THE FUTURE.

10:54:26 THE NEXT SLIDE HERE, HIGH LEVEL, IS $2.5 MILLION IS

10:54:28 NECESSARY FOR THE REPAIRS AND RESTORATION OF THE

10:54:31 STATION, AN ESTIMATE DONE BY THE CITY OF TAMPA STAFF.

10:54:34 WE ALL KNOW THAT CONSTRUCTION PRICING KEEPS ESCALATING

10:54:35 RIGHT NOW.

10:54:39 AND IT IS BEYOND OUR CONTROL, SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO

10:54:43 EMPHASIZE THAT IS MARCH '22 FIGURES.

10:54:47 FUNDS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE AS I MENTIONED $1.1 MILLION

10:54:50 IN THE CRA FUNDS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO THE PROJECT.

10:54:55 WE ALSO HAVE $25,000 IN PRIVATE DONATIONS.

10:54:59 THAT'S BOTH FROM -- THERE IS AN ENDOWMENT FUND FOR THE

10:55:02 COMMUNITY -- AT THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION FOR THE

10:55:04 STATION THAT WE ESTABLISHED.

10:55:07 SOME OF THE INCOME FROM THAT FUND, AS WELL AS SPECIAL

10:55:11 EVENTS, RENTAL RECEIPTS THAT THE CITY HAS SIDE.

10:55:15 SO ON THE CITY'S BOOKS RIGHT NOW, IS THE SUM OF THE 1.1

10:55:17 PLUS THE 25.

10:55:20 WE HAVE ACTUALLY STARTED GRANT APPLICATIONS.

10:55:24 AND WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO COMPLETING A $500,000 GRANT

10:55:27 APPLICATION TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA DIVISION OF

10:55:33 HISTORIC RESOURCES, SPECIAL CATEGORY GRANT PROGRAM.

10:55:36 WE ALSO INTEND TO SEEK $1 MILLION FROM THE FEDERAL

10:55:41 RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION WHICH IS PART OF U.S. DOT MONEY

10:55:44 THAT CAME BASICALLY OUT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE PACKAGE

10:55:46 THAT WAS PASSED BY CONGRESS.

10:55:50 NO ASSURANCES THAT WE WILL GET THESE GRANTS, BUT WE

10:55:51 WILL GIVE IT OUR BEST.

10:55:54 WE ALSO WILL INTEND TO SEEK PRIVATE DONATIONS,

10:55:56 COMMUNITY FOUNDATION GRANTS, GRANTS FROM OTHER LOCAL

10:56:01 FOUNDATIONS AS WELL.

10:56:05 THE NEXT SLIDE DISCUSSES WHAT WE INTEND TO DO WITH THAT

10:56:06 MASTER PLAN.

10:56:09 WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT ENHANCEMENTS TO THE STATION.

10:56:12 AGAIN, IT IS A VERY ACTIVE TRAIN STATION.

10:56:16 AND THAT USE IS FIRST AND FOREMOST AND WILL CONTINUE

10:56:20 AND SPACES IN THE BUILDING THAT ARE NOT UTILIZED.

10:56:24 ALSO USES THAT ARE MAYBE COMING DOWN THE PIKE IN THE

10:56:24 FUTURE.

10:56:26 WE THINK THE GREAT ADDITION WILL BE A DESTINATION

10:56:28 COFFEE SHOP.

10:56:30 THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY NOT EQUIPPED FOR THAT.

10:56:32 IT COULD BE IN THE FUTURE.

10:56:35 BUSINESS WORK SPACES MAY BE MADE AVAILABLE OBVIOUSLY

10:56:40 FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, START-UPS.

10:56:42 A LOT -- THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE IN

10:56:45 SOME OF THE UNUSED SPACES IN THE BUILDING.

10:56:50 WE ALSO SEEK TO FIND AT LEAST PAYING TENANTS FOR SOME

10:56:53 OF THE UNUSED SPACES IN THE BUILDING AS WELL.

10:57:00 HISTORICAL RECOGNITION IS ALSO LARGE ON OUR AGENDA.

10:57:02 A PROPOSAL AS YOU ALL KNOW TO DO A STATUE THAT REFLECT

10:57:05 A VERY LONG AND IMPORTANT HISTORY.

10:57:10 THE STATION HAS PLAYED IN TAMPA FAMILIES.

10:57:14 PLENTY OF VETERANS THAT LEFT AND CAME BACK VIA TAMPA

10:57:15 UNION STATION.

10:57:16 THE VIETNAM ERA.

10:57:20 WE HAVE IT DOCUMENTED AND SOME OF THOSE FOLKS DIDN'T

10:57:20 MAKE IT BACK.

10:57:23 A VERY POWERFUL STORY THAT WE WANT TO TELL.

10:57:26 ADDITIONAL STORIES AT THE STATION THAT WE WANT TO TELL

10:57:27 AS WELL.

10:57:32 AND, AGAIN, PASSENGER RAIL SERVICE FIRST AND FOREMOST

10:57:35 AS THE STATION CONTINUES TO BE A -- TAMPA RAILROAD

10:57:40 STATION AND AMTRAK INTENDS TO BE THERE FOR MANY YEARS

10:57:40 TO COME.

10:57:43 THESE ADDITIONAL USES WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL FUNDING,

10:57:46 OF COURSE, AND WILL IDENTIFY THOSE FUNDING NEEDS IN THE

10:57:48 MASTER PLAN.

10:57:51 I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ON THE NEXT SLIDE AN EXAMPLE

10:57:55 OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE ARE MAKING AT THE STATION WORKS

10:57:57 AS ONE TEAM.

10:58:01 THE BAGGAGE BUILDING PART OF THE 1912 STRUCTURE OF THE

10:58:05 STATION WAS BASICALLY IN NEED OF SOME ATTENTION.

10:58:07 WE HAD ROTTING WINDOWS.

10:58:12 THE BUILDING WASN'T PROTECTED WITH FIRE SPRINKLERS.

10:58:13 IT IS NOT AIR-CONDITIONED.

10:58:15 IT WAS BASICALLY UNUSABLE.

10:58:19 EVEN THOUGH OUR GROUP HAS SET UP MODEL TRAIN DISPLAYS

10:58:22 IN THE STATION OR EVEN IN THE BAGGAGE BUILDING DURING

10:58:24 TRAIN DAY EVERY YEAR.

10:58:29 SO WE WORK TO GET SOME FUNDS AND TO ACTUALLY OUTFIT THE

10:58:33 BUILDING WITH FIRE SPRINKLERS, AIR CONDITIONING,

10:58:34 REPLACE THE WINDOWS.

10:58:38 AND OUR BUDGET WAS $190,000.

10:58:41 VOLUNTEER TIME.

10:58:47 AN ARCHITECTURE EXPERT DONATED HIS TIME.

10:58:49 MY FATHER LEFT US SOME MONEY.

10:58:51 GOT FOUNDATION GRANTS AND WE HAVE A HISTORIC

10:58:54 PRESERVATION GRANT FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AS WELL.

10:58:58 AND THANKS TO SOME SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AT THIS TIMELINE

10:59:01 ON THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN EXTENDED A LITTLE BIT BUT WE

10:59:05 ARE LOOKING FOR COMPLETION IN MAY '22.

10:59:10 AND CELEBRATING THAT PROGRESS IN NOVEMBER 2022.

10:59:12 THE FOLLOWING SLIDE SHOWS THE WORK DONE IN THE BAGGAGE

10:59:13 BUILDING.

10:59:16 THE NEW WINDOWS THAT REHAB DOORS.

10:59:20 WE FOUND A USE FOR OLD CITY OF TAMPA STREET PAVERS.

10:59:22 THE BRICK FLOOR OF THE BUILDING NEEDED SOME ADDITIONAL

10:59:25 BRICK.

10:59:28 BY THE WAY AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN, A SHOT OF THAT

10:59:33 BUILDING WITH DELIVERY DRIVERS, AND FROM 1922, THAT IS

10:59:35 OVER AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY NOW.

10:59:38 I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT

10:59:40 HAVE REGARDING THIS PRESENTATION OR THE STATION IN

10:59:42 GENERAL.

10:59:43 THANK YOU.

10:59:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:59:47 THIS IS YOUR MOTION.

10:59:48 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, THANK YOU.

10:59:51 FIRST, I WANT TO THANK JACKSON.

10:59:53 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL CAN TELL, HE LIVES IN ATLANTA

10:59:59 NOW AND WORKS WITH THE ATLANTA HISTORY MUSEUM.

11:00:02 AND WE ARE LUCKY HE HAS A PASSION AND PART OF THIS

11:00:07 BECAUSE HIS DAD LED THE EFFORTS IN THE '90S.

11:00:10 THE NONPROFIT THAT HE AND HIS DAD RAN IN THE '90S TOOK

11:00:14 CONTROL OF THIS PROPERTY FROM CSX AND WHEN DICK GRECO

11:00:18 WAS MAYOR IN THE '90S ASKED TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE

11:00:18 CITY.

11:00:21 THEY ACTUALLY RAN THE WHOLE THING BEFORE IT WENT TO THE

11:00:23 CITY AND RESPONSIBLE FOR RESTORING IT.

11:00:27 HIS DAD PASSED AWAY LAST YEAR WHICH HE ALLUDED TO AS

11:00:28 WELL.

11:00:31 THANK YOU TO HIM AND ALL THE OTHER VOLUNTEERS THERE.

11:00:33 AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT HISTORIC BUILDING.

11:00:35 A BUILDING OWNED BY THE CITY.

11:00:38 IT HAS SPACE THAT IS BEING UNDERUTILIZED THAT WE CAN

11:00:39 USE.

11:00:40 IT IS IMPORTANT FOR TRANSPORTATION.

11:00:42 IN THE FUTURE AS WE CONTINUE TO BE MORE DENSE, THERE

11:00:46 WILL BE MORE USES FOR THIS HOPEFULLY, AMTRAK OR

11:00:49 WHATEVER, WHATEVER PROVIDER ALSO BE THERE.

11:00:52 OTHER THING SPATIALLY AROUND THE REGION, I HAVE SPOKEN

11:00:54 TO THE ENCORE PEOPLE.

11:00:56 WITH THE GAS WORX PEOPLE.

11:00:59 I SPOKEN WITH THE CHANNEL WORKS PEOPLE.

11:01:07 ANDY SCALIONE NEAR THE CROSSTOWN -- SORRY, SELMON.

11:01:09 THE BACK DOOR.

11:01:12 CHANNEL DISTRICT IS THE FRONT DOOR FOR ENCORE AND GAS

11:01:16 WORX, THE CENTER OF ALL THE MULTIDOLLAR DEVELOPMENT

11:01:19 GOING ON IN TAMPA OTHER THAN MIDTOWN.

11:01:25 A VERY IMPORTANT HISTORIC BUILDING AND CENTER PIECE FOR

11:01:27 EVERYTHING AROUND IT AND AN ANCHOR FOR THE HISTORY

11:01:30 GOING ON THERE AND ALL THE BIG PLAYERS ARE EXCITED OF

11:01:32 THIS BUILDING BEING PRESERVED AND CONTINUING AS

11:01:33 TRANSPORTATION HUB.

11:01:35 AND MORE IMPORTANTLY BEING A BUSINESS INCUBATOR.

11:01:38 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE WITH THAT.

11:01:42 BECAUSE FROM DOWNTOWN EAST AND NORTH, WE DON'T HAVE

11:01:45 ENOUGH COFFEE SHOPS WHERE YOUNG ENTREPRENEURS AND

11:01:48 ENTREPRENEURS OF ANY KIND CAN GO AND SET UP A LAPTOP

11:01:51 AND START A BUSINESS OR GET SUPPORT OF A BUSINESS.

11:01:55 INCUBATOR ORGANIZATIONS LIKE TAMPA BAY WAVE AND OTHERS

11:01:57 WILL LOVE TO RENT THIS FROM US.

11:02:00 I AM SURE OXFORD AND OTHERS WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT.

11:02:04 A WAY FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE MONEY AND INCOME

11:02:04 AND TRAFFIC.

11:02:07 WHEN PEOPLE ARRIVE ON TRAIN, DO WE WANT THE FIRST

11:02:09 IMPRESSION TO BE A RUNDOWN BUILDING?

11:02:12 OR DO WE WANT IT TO BE A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING BEAUTIFULLY

11:02:15 RESTORED WITH ENTREPRENEURS WORK IN IT.

11:02:17 OTHER CITIES LIKE DENVER HAVE.

11:02:20 ALSO THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE JACKSON HOUSE

11:02:24 WHICH WE ALSO PUT MONEY IN OUR BUDGET TO SAY THE

11:02:27 IMPORTANCE OF THE JACKSON HOUSE AND I BELIEVE IS NOT

11:02:31 THE PEOPLE WHO STAY THERE, BUT TELLS MY KIDS AND OTHERS

11:02:34 THE STORY OF SEGREGATION WHEN AFRICAN-AMERICANS, EVEN

11:02:38 FAMOUS ONES, ON THEIR WAY TO CUBA BY STEAMSHIP, WHEN

11:02:42 ARRIVED IN TAMPA, THEY COULD ONLY STAY IN TWO PLACES.

11:02:44 AND ONE IS THE JACKSON HOUSE.

11:02:48 WE NEED TO KEEP THOSE STORIES ALIVE SO WE DON'T HAVE

11:02:50 POLICIES LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

11:02:51 YOU MENTIONED WORLD WAR II.

11:02:54 THAT IS AN IMPORTANT THING ALSO.

11:02:57 MY QUESTION TO YOU, JACKSON, ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THE

11:02:58 STATUS OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW?

11:03:01 AND HOW SOON DO YOU THINK WE CAN ADDRESS THE INCUBATOR

11:03:06 OPPORTUNITY AND ALSO THE WORLD WAR II STATUE.

11:03:08 WHERE DO THEY STAND?

11:03:11 >> I AM SATISFIED IN WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROCESS.

11:03:15 THE CITY STAFF HAS BEEN RESPONSIVE TO WORK WITH.

11:03:18 IT IS INCUMBENT UPON ALL OF US TO GET A MASTER PLAN

11:03:20 TOGETHER AND WE ARE GOING TO START RIGHT NOW.

11:03:24 AND THE FACILITY STAFF CONCURRENTLY AS WE MENTIONED

11:03:26 HAVE TO ADDRESS ISSUES WITH THE BUILDING.

11:03:29 WE ARE ROLLING AND WE ARE LOOK FORWARD TO, YOU KNOW,

11:03:34 COMING BACK TO Y'ALL WITH -- WITH AN UPDATE SOON.

11:03:36 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO OTHER QUICK THINGS.

11:03:38 TWO OTHER THREATS TO THIS FACILITY.

11:03:43 ONE IS THAT, I HEARD THAT THERE HAS BEEN TALK INSIDE

11:03:46 THE CITY OF MOVING THE GREYHOUND STATION TO THIS

11:03:47 STATION.

11:03:51 THERE IS NO SYNERGY WHATSOEVER WITH A TRAIN STATION AND

11:03:53 IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT.

11:03:56 SHOULD BE ALONG THE MARION STREET CORRIDOR SOMEWHERE

11:03:59 CLOSER TO OUR BUS SERVICES, NOT THERE.

11:04:02 GREYHOUND IS A COMPETITOR -- LONG DISTANCE BUS IS

11:04:04 COMPETITOR TO THE RAIL.

11:04:05 WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO PUT THAT THERE.

11:04:08 IF YOU HEAR OF THAT HAPPENING, PLEASE OPPOSE IT AND

11:04:11 MAYBE AT SOME POINT WE WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT.

11:04:14 BUT THE SECOND THING IS THAT THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY

11:04:17 IS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES TO PUT A NEW RAMP

11:04:20 SOMEWHERE THERE AND A PIECE OF GRASS IN FRONT OF TAMPA

11:04:22 UNION STATION WHICH COULD BE A PLACE FOR PUBLIC ART OR

11:04:25 SOME KIND OF PUBLIC PURPOSE, BUT IF THE EXPRESSWAY

11:04:29 AUTHORITY PUTS A RAMP ON THAT, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE

11:04:31 TAMPA UNION STATION ANYMORE OR YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE

11:04:32 THE JACKSON HOUSE.

11:04:35 AND IT WON'T BE GOOD FOR THE FLOW AND THE CONNECTIVITY

11:04:40 BETWEEN CHANNEL DISTRICT AND GAS WORX AND YBOR.

11:04:42 I WILL ASK EVERYBODY TO WATCH OUT FOR THAT.

11:04:43 THANK YOU.

11:04:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:04:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:04:52 I THANK COUNCILMAN CARLSON, HE TOUCHED ON PRETTY MUCH

11:04:55 EVERYTHING I WANT TO SAY.

11:04:58 WITH REGARD TO SEGREGATION AND THE HISTORY OF THAT.

11:05:00 THE JACKSON HOUSE STILL EXISTS.

11:05:02 UNION STATION EXISTS.

11:05:06 BUT A HOTEL THAT NO LONGER EXISTS THAT WAS DEMOLISHED

11:05:09 10, 15, UNION STATION HOTEL OR UNION HOTEL.

11:05:10 IT IS A PARKING LOT NOW.

11:05:13 IF YOU LOOK AT THE MOVIE "THE PUNISHER" I THINK THEY

11:05:17 SHOW IT IN THERE, BUT IT WAS A WHITE-ONLY HOTEL.

11:05:21 AND THEN FOR THOSE THAT COULDN'T STAY THERE, THEY WOULD

11:05:22 STAY AT THE JACKSON HOUSE.

11:05:28 THIS STRUCTURE AND ITS ARCHITECTURE IS A LIMITED

11:05:33 AMOUNT BEYOND YBOR CITY AND WEST TAMPA THE

11:05:34 HOWARD MAIN STREET CORRIDOR.

11:05:36 I THINK WE HAVE TO PROTECT THIS BUILDING AT ALL COSTS.

11:05:40 FOR STUDENTS OF ARCHITECTURE, PEOPLE THAT ADMIRE THAT

11:05:43 TIME PERIOD, THE HISTORY OF SECRETARY GREGATION AND

11:05:46 WHATNOT, AGAIN, PEOPLE THAT ARRIVE HERE BY TRAIN, THIS

11:05:49 WILL BE THEIR FIRST IMPRESSION BEYOND WHAT THEY SEE IN

11:05:53 THE CHANNEL DISTRICT IN DOWNTOWN AND YBOR CITY.

11:05:57 THEY GET HERE AND YOU WANT A NICELY MAINTAINED FACILITY

11:06:01 AND YOU WANT TO USE IT -- THE MAXIMUM CAPABLE.

11:06:04 WHETHER A HUG FOR ENTREPRENEURS OR A COFFEE SHOP OR

11:06:05 WHATEVER IT IS.

11:06:06 KEEP THAT ALIVE.

11:06:09 WE HAVE SEEN SO MANY BUILDS.

11:06:11 LOOK AT ARMATURE WORKS.

11:06:14 IT WAS AN EMPTY WAREHOUSE FOR YEARS AND LOOK WHAT IT

11:06:15 HAS BECOME.

11:06:18 IT IS GROWING AND THE WHOLE AREA IS GROWING BEYOND

11:06:18 THAT.

11:06:21 THIS A VERY SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURE IN OUR HISTORY.

11:06:25 I KNOW UNDER THE GRECO ADMINISTRATION IN THE '90S, THEY

11:06:27 RESTORE IT AND BRING IT BACK AS MUCH AS THEY COULD.

11:06:29 YOU SEE WATER INTRUSION THROUGH THE WINDOWS.

11:06:32 THROUGH LEAKS THROUGH THE CEILING AND WHATNOT.

11:06:36 OUR BIGGEST ENEMY, TROPICAL CLIMATE, HUMIDITY, WATER

11:06:39 AND THESE BUILDINGS HAVE THAT CONSTANT MAINTENANCE.

11:06:42 WE SO THAT HE AGAIN WITH TAMPA THEATRE NEEDS CONSTANT

11:06:42 MAINTENANCE.

11:06:51 IN YBOR CITY, OUR SOCIAL CLUBS, CENTRO ESTUIANO AND ALL

11:06:52 THAT STUFF.

11:06:55 IT IN ITS THE SAME ERA.

11:06:59 GLAD COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT THIS.

11:07:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA --

11:07:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU CAN CALL ME COUNCILMAN

11:07:05 MANISCALCO.

11:07:06 NO PROBLEM.

11:07:09 I APPRECIATE WHAT MR. CARLSON IS DOING HERE.

11:07:12 I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A KID, ONE OF THE THINGS I

11:07:15 REMEMBERED BEING A KID IS EVERYBODY LIKED TRAINS.

11:07:19 EVERYBODY HAD A LITTLE CHOO-CHOO TRAIN AT THE HOUSE.

11:07:19 WHY?

11:07:22 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO DO.

11:07:25 THEY WOULD TAKE US TO THE TRAIN STATION AND SEE THE

11:07:28 CHAMPION AND SILVER METER COME IN AND LEAVE.

11:07:29 THAT WITH AS A BIG DEAL.

11:07:32 I WAS NINE YEARS OLD AND THEY BROUGHT A SPECIAL TRAIN

11:07:34 TO SHOW US AND I FORGET OF THE TRAIN.

11:07:37 A DOUBLE-DECKER AND ALL GLASS ON TOP AND BEAUTIFUL AND

11:07:40 WOULD LET YOU COME IN -- THOSE WILL THE THINGS I

11:07:45 REMEMBER GROWING UP IN YBOR CITY BECAUSE NOT TOP OF DO

11:07:48 GOING THROUGH THE THEATRE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND

11:07:50 CASCADE IAN PARK TO PLAY.

11:07:56 THIS WAS DONE UNDER THE GRECO ADMINISTRATION AS MR.

11:07:57 MANISCALCO SAID.

11:07:58 I WAS THERE.

11:08:03 TAMPA THEATRE 4-3 FOR $90,000 FOR RESTORATION.

11:08:04 4-3.

11:08:06 I APPRECIATE BEING ONE OF THE FOUR.

11:08:09 AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I BELIEVE IN SAVING THINGS

11:08:12 THAT MEAN A LOT, NOT ONLY FOR YESTERDAY BUT TODAY AND

11:08:14 FOR TOMORROW.

11:08:17 AND TRAINS WILL ALWAYS BE PART OF AMERICA, ONE WAY OR

11:08:18 THE OTHER.

11:08:20 AND THE WAY THEY ARE NOW, THE WAY THEY ARE GETTING

11:08:23 BETTER, MAYBE THEY WILL BE HERE FOR MANY HUNDREDS OF

11:08:24 YEARS TO COME.

11:08:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:08:27 I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING.

11:08:31 AND WHAT WE CAN TO DO RESTORE THIS BUILDING.

11:08:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:08:34 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

11:08:37 I WANT TO THANK YOU COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:08:40 WHEN YOU MENTIONED GARY MERINO.

11:08:41 SUCH A GREAT GUY.

11:08:44 AS AN ATTORNEY, I WAS TRYING TO LOOK IT UP HOW FAR THE

11:08:47 GEORGE EDGECOMB COURTHOUSE IS FROM THIS.

11:08:50 A LOT OF YOUNG ATTORNEYS WHO GO TO COURT.

11:08:54 AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG PUBLIC DEFENDER AND WHO ARE

11:08:56 HERE AND THIS ISN'T THAT FAR AWAY.

11:08:59 IF THEY NEED TO PREPARE FOR CRAM FOR COURT, THIS COULD

11:09:03 IN THE FUTURE PROVIDE A VERY GOOD VIABLE PLACE FOR THEM

11:09:05 TO GO AND WHATNOT.

11:09:07 I WOULD SAY ON TOP OF THE JACKSON HOUSE, GEORGE

11:09:09 EDGECOMB PERSPECTIVELY.

11:09:11 I WILL HAVE TO SEE HOW FAR AWAY IT IS.

11:09:12 I DON'T THINK IT IS THAT FAR.

11:09:14 THAT IT WILL BE A GOOD RESOURCE.

11:09:15 100% SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

11:09:19 I THINK THIS IS A MARVELOUS ENDEAVOR FOR US TO TAKE.

11:09:23 AND IF WE SHOULD GO RAPIDLY AND AGGRESSIVELY ON THIS.

11:09:25 THIS IS GREAT THING.

11:09:26 THANK YOU.

11:09:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.

11:09:31 >> GOOD MORNING, ADRI COLINA.

11:09:33 CONGRATULATIONS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

11:09:36 JACKSON DID AN AMAZING JOB THIS MORNING.

11:09:38 HE COVERED EVERYTHING VERY, VERY WELL AND I WANT TO THANK

11:09:41 THE CRA FOR THE $1.1 MILLION INVESTMENT.

11:09:45 AND I ALSO WANT TO APPLAUD THE FRIENDS OF UNION STATION

11:09:46 AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR EFFORTS.

11:09:50 YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WALK INTO THAT BUILDING -- MY STAFF

11:09:53 DID A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT WHAT IS NEEDED RIGHT

11:09:55 NOW, THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS OF THAT BUILDING.

11:09:57 THERE IS A FEELING YOU GET WHEN YOU WALK INTO THAT

11:09:58 BUILDING.

11:10:00 AND WE DO NEED TO PRESERVE IT.

11:10:02 THAT $1.1 MILLION.

11:10:05 WE LOOKED AT THE TOP TWO THINGS WE NEED TO DO, THE

11:10:05 TERMITE.

11:10:09 WE NEED TO TENT IT AND PROTECT IT FROM THAT AND WINDOWS

11:10:10 AND DOORS BEHIND THAT.

11:10:14 THAT WILL TAKE UP A GOOD CHUNK OF THE $1.1 MILLION

11:10:17 SIMULTANEOUSLY AND WILL BE APPLYING FOR GRANTS AND LOOK

11:10:18 WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE NEXT.

11:10:22 BUT THE REALITY IS, BETWEEN THE GRANTS AND THE SUPPLY

11:10:25 CHAIN ISSUES, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE END OF 2024, THE

11:10:26 BEGINNING OF 2025.

11:10:30 WE WANT TO MINIMIZE OUR IMPACT TO AMTRAK AND KEEP THE

11:10:33 STATION GOING WHILE WE DO ALL THIS WORK.

11:10:35 SO THAT IS WHERE WE ARE.

11:10:38 WE ARE COMMITTED TO THE PROJECT AND I AM EXCITED AND

11:10:42 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR BRINGING THIS UP, AND

11:10:44 FOR THE TEAM WORKING TOGETHER.

11:10:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY

11:10:49 INVOLVED FOR THIS REPORT.

11:10:52 AND I AM GLAD WE COULD HELP SAVE THIS HISTORIC

11:10:53 BUILDING.

11:10:55 ANYTHING ELSE?

11:10:55 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:10:57 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:11:00 THANK YOU, ADRI AND THANK YOU ALSO TO CHIEF OF STAFF

11:11:02 FOR BEING INVOLVED IN THIS TOO.

11:11:05 BECAUSE IT INVOLVES MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.

11:11:06 NOT JUST ONE.

11:11:08 AN IMPORTANT PROJECT.

11:11:10 COULD I MAKE A MOTION TO BRING THIS BACK IN THE OCTOBER

11:11:13 MEETING JUST SO WE CAN GET ANOTHER UPDATE.

11:11:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.

11:11:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:11:18 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:11:19 ANY DISCUSSION?

11:11:22 HEARING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

11:11:24 ANY OPPOSED?

11:11:26 MOTION PASSES.

11:11:37 >> THANK YOU.

11:11:40 >> GOOD MORNING, CEDRIC MCCRAY, EAST TAMPA CRA

11:11:43 MANAGER.

11:11:49 BRING UP THE PRESENTATION.

11:11:53 AND AT THE JANUARY 20TH MEETING, THE CHAIR AND

11:11:56 VICE-CHAIR OF THE EAST TAMPA CRA SHARED WITH YOU SOME

11:11:59 CONCERNS THEY HAD AS IT RELATES TO EAST TAMPA AND THE

11:12:02 MOVEMENT OF PROJECTS AND PROCESSES.

11:12:06 AND HERE JUST TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE ON THOSE SIX OR

11:12:14 SEVEN ITEMS THAT WERE MENTIONED AT THAT TIME.

11:12:26 CAN WE BRING UP NUMBER 5, PLEASE.

11:12:27 PRESENTATION.

11:12:30 NUMBER 5.

11:12:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAC, ARE YOU BACK THERE?

11:13:25 EXCUSE ME, CCTV, ARE YOU BACK THERE?

11:13:29 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT WE SEE A

11:13:31 PICTURE OF A BIG GRANITE MOUNTAIN WITH ONE PERSON --

11:13:37 TWO PEOPLE FAR AWAY CLIMBING UP IT WITH PICK AXES OR

11:13:37 SOMETHING.

11:13:55 IT LOOKS SCARY.

11:13:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT, TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.

11:14:01 ANYBODY WATCHING "KILLING EVE?"

11:14:03 >> WHAT IS IT?

11:14:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A GREAT PROGRAM.

11:14:07 BRITISH, BBC.

11:14:08 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.

11:14:14 I WANTED TO -- WANT TO SALUTE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR

11:14:17 WONDERFUL -- YOUR HANDWRITE SOMETHING BY FAR THE BEST

11:14:18 HERE.

11:14:19 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL NOTICED THAT.

11:14:22 >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I AM A FORMER

11:14:24 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER.

11:14:25 >>LUIS VIERA: IT SHOWS.

11:14:30 I NOTICE $THAT.

11:14:33 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WENT HALFWAY THROUGH AND I SAID MAYBE

11:14:38 I SHOULD START DOING LYNN AND MAYBE TRANSFER TO THAT

11:14:42 >>BILL CARLSON: WHY DON'T THEY TEACH KIDS CURSIVE ANYMORE.

11:14:43 >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT TIME.

11:14:46 AND I DID IT AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR AND YOU

11:14:50 TREAT IT AS A --

11:14:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND START THE

11:14:53 CONVERSATION.

11:14:57 WE CAN COME BACK TO -- MOVE FORWARD AND COME BACK TO

11:15:00 IT.

11:15:02 >> I WILL SKIP ARM TO THE EASIEST ONES.

11:15:06 NUMBER 8 IS A FACADE GRANT IN WEST TAMPA.

11:15:10 A WONDERFUL OLD HISTORIC BUILDING RIGHT THERE ON

11:15:11 ARMENIA --

11:15:13 >> NUMBER 8, I BELIEVE --

11:15:17 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: SORRY, NUMBER 8 IS THE -- IS THE

11:15:19 SCHEDULE FOR THE CRA MEETINGS.

11:15:22 WE ARE ASKING TO YOU FORMALLY ADOPT YOUR MEETING

11:15:24 SCHEDULE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.

11:15:27 AND WE WILL THEN BEGIN TO TURN AROUND PER STATE STATUTE

11:15:31 AND ADVERTISE AS REQUIRED, AND WE WILL DO IT ON

11:15:34 QUARTERLY OR SIX-MONTH BASIS.

11:15:34 >> MOTION.

11:15:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.

11:15:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND

11:15:39 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:15:41 TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS.

11:15:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:15:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:15:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:15:47 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:15:48 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:15:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:15:54 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.

11:15:56 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: SORRY, USED TO THE FACADE GRANT

11:15:59 GRANTSING FIRST.

11:16:02 NUMBER 9 IS FACADE GRANT FOR WEST.

11:16:05 2109 NORTH OR MEAN I CAN'T.

11:16:08 A CORNER BUILDING SITTING VACANT AND THIS FACADE GRANT

11:16:13 WILL HELP IT ADDRESS SOME OF THE DILAPIDATION OF THE

11:16:16 BRICKWORK AND SO FORTH.

11:16:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:16:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT BUILDING IS THIS?

11:16:22 THE ONE THEY TOOK OFF THE STUCCO AND BRICK AND

11:16:24 MULTICOLORED.

11:16:25 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: RED.

11:16:28 PART OF IT IS WHITE -- RED BRICK AND WHITE ON TOP.

11:16:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE

11:16:30 TALKING ABOUT.

11:16:31 THANK YOU.

11:16:33 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: YOU SHOULD HAVE A PICTURE IN YOUR

11:16:35 PACKET THAT YOU --

11:16:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT THE BRICK WAS COVERED FOR A

11:16:40 LONG TIME.

11:16:42 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: YES.

11:16:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:16:47 >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T NORMALLY VOTE FOR FACADE

11:16:48 GRANT.

11:16:52 BUT UNTIL IT IS A HISTORIC.

11:16:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.

11:16:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.

11:16:58 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:16:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:17:01 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:17:02 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:17:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:17:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:17:08 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT

11:17:09 VOTE.

11:17:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE OUR SCREENS UP IN FRONT OF US

11:17:13 IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK.

11:17:21 AND WE ARE ON AGENDA ITEM 5 SO FAR.

11:17:26 >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, CEDRIC MCCRAY, CRA MANAGER EAST

11:17:27 TAMPA.

11:17:30 SHOWED A FEW MOMENTS AGO CONCERNS THAT WERE EXPRESSED

11:17:34 BY MEMBERS OF THE CAC AS IT RELATES TO PROGRESS IN EAST

11:17:35 TAMPA AND PROGRAMMING.

11:17:38 JUST HERE TO PROVIDE SOME UPDATES ON THOSE ITEMS THAT

11:17:44 WERE BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION ON JANUARY 20 OF 2022.

11:17:49 AN OWNER-OCCUPIED REHABILITATION PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN

11:17:51 SUBMITTED TO PURCHASING.

11:17:55 THAT PROGRAM CURRENTLY NOW IS UNDER REVIEW AND

11:18:00 PREPROPOSAL DATE SET BY PURCHASING ONCE THE RFP PACKAGE

11:18:00 IS COMPLETE.

11:18:03 WE HAVE ALMOST WEEKLY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE

11:18:07 REPRESENTATIVE IN PURCHASING, EITHER MYSELF OR OUR NEW

11:18:11 STAFF MEMBER, MISS VANESSA ROSS.

11:18:16 TO HELP LOW AND MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES FOR INTERIOR

11:18:21 AND EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY THE PROGRAM

11:18:24 WAS DEVELOPED LAST SUMMER.

11:18:26 PROBABLY RIGHT BEFORE MY ARRIVAL.

11:18:30 AND THERE WAS SOME -- SOME CONVERSATIONS AND TWEAKS TO

11:18:32 THE PROGRAM IN THE LATTER PART OF NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.

11:18:35 AND IT WAS SUBMITTED AGAIN TO PURCHASING IN JANUARY.

11:18:39 SO WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING HERE IN VERY SHORT ORDER.

11:18:42 AND IT WILL BE OUT AND ADVERTISED.

11:18:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:18:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT IS THE SHORT ORDER.

11:18:48 HEARING AND HEARING THE PROCESS.

11:18:50 HEARING AND HEARING.

11:18:50 >> YES, SIR.

11:18:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOT TO BE SOME END POINT FOR A DATE.

11:18:55 IT HAS BEEN THERE A WHILE.

11:18:58 THIS BODY NEEDS TO KNOW WHEN IS THIS GOING TO BE

11:18:59 COMPLETED AND THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO KNOW.

11:19:03 THIS IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT ESPECIALLY

11:19:04 WITH OUR HOUSING CRISIS INFORMATION.

11:19:07 I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE HOLD UP.

11:19:08 >> YES.

11:19:11 WE -- I AM -- I AM SURE THERE ARE A MULTITUDE OF THINGS

11:19:13 THEY ARE WORKING ON.

11:19:17 AND I EXPRESSED THE IMPORTANCE TO THE CITY STAFF AS IT

11:19:18 RELATES TO THAT.

11:19:21 I AM HOPING AND PRAYING THAT IT WILL BE WITHIN THE NEXT

11:19:21 30 DAYS.

11:19:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM HOPEFUL TOO AND HOUSING IS A

11:19:26 SITUATION RIGHT NOW.

11:19:29 YOU DRIVE THROUGH THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN AND -- THIS IS

11:19:32 A TOP PRIORITY FOR THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.

11:19:36 AND, AGAIN -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

11:19:38 I SEE THE FRUSTRATION OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE CAC

11:19:41 BECAUSE MY FRUSTRATION TOO THAT THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN

11:19:43 COMPLETED A LONG TIME AGO.

11:19:46 I AM HOPING TO GET A DEFINITIVE ANSWER SOON BECAUSE THE

11:19:54 COMMUNITY IS REALLY BEGGING FOR THIS PROGRAM.

11:19:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:19:59 >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS,

11:20:00 ESPECIALLY FROM EAST TAMPA.

11:20:04 AS I SAID THREE DIFFERENT CHAIRS WHO DIDN'T ALWAYS

11:20:07 AGREE WITH EACH OTHER AND WE HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS.

11:20:10 I WOULD JUST REMIND MY COLLEAGUES AND THE PUBLIC THAT

11:20:13 THE CRA IS A SEPARATE ORGANIZATION AND NOT A PART OF

11:20:14 THE CITY.

11:20:16 THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY AN OUTSOURCE AGREEMENT

11:20:19 WITH THE CITY AND WE HAVE OUR OWN STAFF, BUT IF IT IS A

11:20:22 BUILDING LIKE TAMPA UNION STATION THAT IS OWNED BY THE

11:20:24 CITY, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH IT.

11:20:27 TO THE EXTENT A PROGRAM THAT ISN'T DIRECTLY INVOLVED

11:20:30 WITH CITY STAFF, IF WE ARE NOT GETTING THE PERFORMANCE

11:20:33 WE WANT, WE HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE RENEWAL

11:20:36 REQUIREMENTS FOR THE OUTSOURCE AGREEMENT AND WE HAVE TO

11:20:38 FILE OUR PROTEST ABOUT THAT.

11:20:43 BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE -- NOT TO BRING UP SUBJECTS IN

11:20:46 THE MEDIA, BUT SOME THINGS ARE NOT PRIORITIZED.

11:20:48 AND CERTAIN PROPOSALS BY CERTAIN PEOPLE ARE NOT

11:20:49 PRIORITIZED.

11:20:52 THIS IS NOT SOMETHING FOR -- FOR ANY PARTICULAR PERSON

11:20:53 ON THIS BOARD.

11:20:54 SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

11:20:56 THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN.

11:20:59 HAS BEEN ASKING FOR AND IF CITY STAFF ARE NOT WILLING

11:21:02 TO MOVE FORWARD, WHAT I WILL DO IS FOR SURE INCLUDED IN

11:21:06 THE REVIEW OF THE CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, WE ALSO

11:21:09 SHOULD LOOK AT OUTSOURCING.

11:21:12 SOMETHING WE DON'T NEED ALL OF IT OR A PART OF IT TO GO

11:21:15 THROUGH THE CITY, LET'S OUTSOURCE TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

11:21:15 WE CAN DO THAT.

11:21:17 WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT.

11:21:19 WE DON'T NEED TO PUT EVERYTHING WITH THE CITY OR WE

11:21:22 NEED TO TELL THE CITY THAT WE ARE GOING TO REDUCE THEIR

11:21:25 BUDGET IF THEY DON'T MOVE FORWARD AND GET THINGS DONE.

11:21:26 THANK YOU.

11:21:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?

11:21:30 >> I WANT TO MAKE ONE -- SO YOU UNDERSTAND.

11:21:34 A STATE STATUTE THAT DOES REQUIRE THAT CRAS GO THROUGH

11:21:37 THE SAME PURCHASING PROCESS THAT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT

11:21:39 THAT WE ARE ATTACHED.

11:21:42 >>BILL CARLSON: I UNDERSTAND THAT AND WE CAN HIRE OUR

11:21:46 OWN -- THE ARGUMENT IS OUR CITY GIVES YOU FREE SERVICES

11:21:49 AND THAT'S HOW WE ARE BOUND TO THIS AND WE DON'T GET

11:21:49 PROGRESS.

11:21:52 WHEN WE STARTED A HUGE BUDGET IN THE EAST TAMPA CAC

11:21:55 THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOR -- DISTRICT THAT SHOULD HAVE

11:21:56 BEEN SPENT.

11:21:59 AND NOW MORE THAN A MILLION THE LAST TIME WE HEARD THE

11:22:00 UPDATE THAT IS IN THAT DISTRICT.

11:22:03 IN AN AREA THAT NEEDS MONEY FOR LOTS OF THINGS,

11:22:04 SHOULDN'T BE HELD UP.

11:22:07 IF -- IF IT IS THAT PART OF OUR OUTSOURCE AGREEMENT

11:22:11 THAT THE CITY STAFF CANNOT HANDLE IT BECAUSE WORKING ON

11:22:15 THE MAYOR'S PRIORITIES, WE NEED TO HIRE OUR OWN STAFF

11:22:16 TO DO THIS.

11:22:19 SOMEHOW WE NEED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, BECAUSE OUR

11:22:21 ECONOMIC NUMBERS WILL ALWAYS BE BAD.

11:22:23 BAD FOR 11 YEARS NOW.

11:22:26 WE DID NOT SUCCESSFULLY COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES PULL

11:22:29 OUT OF THE GREAT RECESSION BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ADDRESS

11:22:33 THESE ISSUES AND WE ARE GOING TO GET BLAMED FOR IT AND

11:22:36 THIS MAYOR WILL GET A BLAME BECAUSE -- SINCE WE HAVE

11:22:41 100% POWER, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A 100% RESPONSIBILITY ON

11:22:42 THIS.

11:22:44 WE HAVE GOT -- THE BUCK STOPS CAN US AND MAKE SURE THAT

11:22:46 IT GETS DONE.

11:22:47 HOWEVER IT GETS DONE.

11:22:50 AND ASK THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS

11:22:55 TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO EXPEDITE THESE THINGS.

11:22:58 NOT ACCEPTABLE THAT THE PUBLIC COMES TO US EVERY WEEK

11:23:00 ASKING WHYIER NOT DOING THINGS.

11:23:03 WE HAVE ADDED STAFF TO TRY TO GET IT DONE.

11:23:06 IF CITY STAFF IS NOT WORKING WITH US AND THEY ARE NOT

11:23:08 NECESSARY, THEN LET'S OUTSOURCE TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

11:23:09 THANK YOU.

11:23:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MCCRAY, PLEASE CONTINUE.

11:23:12 >> THANK YOU.

11:23:13 NEXT SLIDE.

11:23:18 THERE WAS A REQUEST THAT THE AGENDAS AND ITEMS BE

11:23:19 SUBMITTED FIVE DAYS IN ADVANCE.

11:23:22 I CAN TELL YOU PROBABLY WITHIN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, WE

11:23:29 HAVE BEEN SENDING AGENDA ITEMS OUT WITHIN SEVEN DAYS

11:23:30 MORE THAN LIKELY.

11:23:34 THERE IS SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT GO THE CHAIR AND

11:23:37 MYSELF WITH IT RELATES TO THE AGENDA AND FORMATTING.

11:23:40 A GREAT MAJORITY OF TIME, WE HAVE GOTTEN THE AGENDA

11:23:44 ITEMS OUT WITHIN SEVEN DAYS TO ALLOW THE CAC MEMBERS

11:23:46 AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ATTENDING THE PARTNERSHIP

11:23:49 MEETINGS TO HAVE TIME TO REVIEW AND SEE WHAT IS ON THE

11:23:50 AGENDA.

11:23:53 AND INCLUDED IN THAT, WE HAVE THE AGENDA ITSELF, THE

11:23:57 MINUTES, SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES WHEN THEY ARE SUBMITTED.

11:24:01 ANY PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING FORWARD

11:24:04 TO THE CAC AND PARTNERSHIP.

11:24:07 BEGAN TO INCLUDE THE ACTUAL BUDGET ON A MONTHLY BASIS

11:24:08 FOR REVIEW.

11:24:10 AND THE OVERALL MEETING SCHEDULE.

11:24:13 AND THAT GOES OUT EVERY MONTH FOR THE UPCOMING MEETINGS

11:24:17 AND EVEN WHEN I'M HERE FOR THE CAC PRESENTATIONS, I

11:24:21 ALWAYS HAVE AND HAVE TRADITIONALLY HAVE THE UPCOMING

11:24:26 MEETINGS DATES AND TIMES ON THAT POWERPOINT SLIDE FOR

11:24:28 THE REVIEW, FOR THE COMMITTEE.

11:24:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

11:24:33 >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE

11:24:35 COMMUNITY ALREADY THAT THIS IS NOT COMING OUT WITHIN

11:24:38 FIVE TO SEVEN DAYS.

11:24:46 IS THERE A WAY THAT -- THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THE

11:24:48 AGENDAS SENT TO US AS WELL SO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE

11:24:50 GETTING IT ON TIME.

11:24:50 >> YES, ABSOLUTELY.

11:24:53 IF YOU ARE NOT RECEIVING IT, WE CAN MAKE SURE YOU ARE

11:24:55 ON THE E-MAIL LIST.

11:24:57 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

11:25:02 >> ABSOLUTELY.

11:25:03 NEXT SLIDE.

11:25:06 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF AS IT RELATES TO THE VACANT

11:25:12 POSITIONS.

11:25:13 THERE WE GO.

11:25:17 AS YOU KNOW, WE IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS HIRED A

11:25:18 COUPLE MORE PEOPLE.

11:25:23 MISS VANESSA ROSS, WHO COMES TO US FROM ECONOMIC

11:25:25 DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE AND HOUSING FROM ANOTHER

11:25:26 MUNICIPALITY.

11:25:33 AND WE ALSO HAVE HIRED MISS BEA PARKS, A FORMER CITY

11:25:33 EMPLOYEE.

11:25:36 SHE HAS HOUSING EXPERIENCE AND ASSISTING NEWS

11:25:38 COMMUNICATIONS BUT SHE HAS A LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE AND

11:25:41 UNDERSTANDING IN THAT ARENA AS WELL AND WE WILL BE

11:25:45 PARTNERING AND WORKING AMONGST OURSELVES AS A STAFF AND

11:25:48 COMMUNITY TO MOVE SOME THINGS ALONG.

11:25:52 AND ALSO HAVE GRANT WRITING EXPERIENCE AS WELL.

11:25:55 AND THAT IS HOW WE ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

11:25:57 MISS ROSS STARTED IN JANUARY.

11:25:59 MISS PARKS STARTED IN MARCH.

11:26:05 AND MR. BURKES IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.

11:26:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:26:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK IT IS GREAT BECAUSE I KNOW

11:26:14 BEA HAS EXPERIENCE AND A GREAT ASSETS THAT SHE CAN KIND

11:26:14 OF HELP OUT.

11:26:16 I APPLAUD YOU ON THAT.

11:26:19 I THINK THE CONCERN OF YOUR BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY IS

11:26:22 THAT, WHEN YOU TALK OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HAVING

11:26:26 SOMEBODY WITH EXPERTISE AND EYES TO REALLY LOOK AT THE

11:26:29 DEVELOPMENT OF BUSINESSES, DEVELOPMENT OF THE

11:26:29 COMMUNITY.

11:26:34 WE GOT MISS VANESSA AS YOUR HOUSING, BUT THEY ARE

11:26:38 ASKING THEY NEED AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICER.

11:26:45 TO GET IT MOVING TO FORESEE AND LOOK AT PROJECTS AND

11:26:46 GET THOSE THINGS MOVING.

11:26:48 I DON'T SEE THAT.

11:26:50 AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE UPSET ABOUT MOSTLY

11:26:55 THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM OF REJUVENATE EAST

11:27:00 TAMPA INTO A BUSINESS HUB OF NEBRASKA.

11:27:05 YOUR 22ND, 29TH, SOMEONE WHO HAS THE SKILL TO SAY THIS

11:27:06 NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED.

11:27:09 THIS -- THIS CAN BE BUILT INTO THIS.

11:27:13 YOU CAN PUT YOUR MONEY INTO THIS TO GET THAT IMPACT

11:27:15 THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR.

11:27:17 SOMETHING THAT DOWN THE ROAD THE TEEN NEEDS TO BE

11:27:20 LOOKING AT IF THAT IS NEEDED AND THEY WANT THAT.

11:27:21 I BELIEVE THEY DO.

11:27:25 THEY WANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALSO.

11:27:26 WHO KNOWS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

11:27:27 THAT IS KEY.

11:27:28 NOT A PLANNER.

11:27:30 A PLANNER DOESN'T DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

11:27:33 A TOTAL DIFFERENT STRATEGY WITH THAT.

11:27:36 SO I THINK DOWN THE ROAD, THAT IS THE CONVERSATION I

11:27:37 HAVE BEEN HEARING.

11:27:39 I THINK THAT IS THE CONVERSATION THAT IS NEEDED BECAUSE

11:27:42 WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY, THEY BUILT

11:27:45 THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HUB SOMEWHERE.

11:27:48 I THINK THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR.

11:27:49 FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

11:27:50 >> YES, SIR.

11:27:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:27:55 >>BILL CARLSON: I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME AND I DON'T

11:27:57 KNOW THAT I HAVE SAID THAT SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN BACK,

11:27:59 AND I AM VERY HAPPY THAT YOU ARE BACK.

11:28:02 WE NEED FOR SOMEONE TO UNDERSTAND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,

11:28:03 NOT JUST REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.

11:28:06 IN THIS CITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MEANS TWO THINGS:

11:28:10 MAJOR REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT AND SUBSIDIZE

11:28:14 OUT-OF-STATE COMPANIES WITH CHEAP LAND AND CHEAP LABOR.

11:28:17 WHAT WE NEED IS TO REALLY HELP ENTREPRENEURIAL GROWTH

11:28:19 IN EAST TAMPA.

11:28:21 HELP PEOPLE START BUSINESSES, HELP THEM SUSTAIN

11:28:24 BUSINESSES, HELP THEM GROW THEIR BUSINESSES OUTSIDE

11:28:28 EAST TAMPA AND HELP ENTREPRENEURS THAT WILL MAKE SENSE

11:28:29 FOR THEM TO BE LOCATED THERE.

11:28:32 AND SO WHAT WE NEED IS SOMEBODY THAT REALLY UNDERSTANDS

11:28:32 THAT.

11:28:35 WHAT WE DON'T NEED IS WHEN WE STARTED THREE YEARS AGO,

11:28:39 THERE WAS, I THINK, $3 MILLION IN THIS BANK ACCOUNT.

11:28:41 IT LOOKED LIKE THE LAST ADMINISTRATION WAS BANKING THE

11:28:45 MONEY TO SUBSIDIZE A BIG GENTRIFICATION PROCESS.

11:28:49 WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE THE WINN-DIXIE AND PUT IN A BIG

11:28:52 MALL OR BIG BOX DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WILL SUBSIDIZE.

11:28:56 WE NEED A GRASS-ROOTS EFFORT TO HELP BUSINESSES START

11:28:59 BUSINESSES AND BUILD UP THE COMMUNITY AND BUILD THE

11:29:04 INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THAT -- THAT ACTIVITY AND THE

11:29:07 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL CENTERS OPINION THANK YOU.

11:29:08 >> NEXT SLIDE.

11:29:12 SO AS IT RELATES TO THE GRANT PROGRAMMING, WE LISTED

11:29:17 OUT IN THE SLOT POWERPOINT AS IT RELATES TO THE MINI

11:29:20 GRANT, OWNER-OCCUPIED.

11:29:23 THERE WERE FOUR GRANTS APPROVED BY THE CRA BOARD LAST

11:29:24 MONTH.

11:29:26 AND THEN SOME OF THE PREVIOUS ONES THAT WE HAD ON

11:29:33 RECORD FOR QUITE A WHILE, THE FACADE GRANT, THE EAST

11:29:38 TAMPA DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

11:29:43 AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY FOR

11:29:45 GRANTS IN DISCUSSIONS, BUT WE WILL BE HAVING THE

11:29:48 DISCUSSIONS WITH THE EAST TAMPA CAC.

11:29:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THE ALLEY ON THAT?

11:29:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZE $.

11:29:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THE ALLEY ON THAT?

11:29:58 >> YES, I HAVE BEEN GIVEN A REPORT THAT WAS DONE --

11:30:01 ACTUALLY LAST YEAR 2021 ON EAST TAMPA ALLEYWAYS

11:30:02 RECENTLY.

11:30:05 AND WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS OVER THE -- ABOUT AN

11:30:07 OVERLAY.

11:30:09 AND HAD OUR LAST MEETING LAST TUESDAY AT THE EAST TAMPA

11:30:11 PARTNERSHIP MEETING ON THAT EVENING.

11:30:14 AND WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT -- ABOUT THE

11:30:16 ALLEYWAY IMPROVEMENTS.

11:30:18 AND KIND OF EXPLAINING AND HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS

11:30:21 WITH RESIDENTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BUDGET

11:30:24 WORKSHOPS THAT WE WILL BE HAVING NEXT MONTHS OR SO.

11:30:28 PRETTY SURE THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING, YOU KNOW, GOING

11:30:33 THROUGH THE BUDGET AND FIGURING OUT WHAT LINE ITEMS WE

11:30:36 WANT TO ALLOCATE TOWARD AND HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD

11:30:38 IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

11:30:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

11:30:44 >> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

11:30:45 OKAY.

11:30:46 HIRING.

11:30:50 SPECIALIZED CONSULTANTS TO HOLD WORKSHOPS AND DEDICATED

11:30:53 TO DISCUSSION.

11:30:56 WE HAVE BEEN AND DISCUSSING THE NATURE OF WORK AS IT

11:31:00 RELATES TO CONSULTANTS, DEFINING THE HOUSING PROGRAM.

11:31:04 SOMETHING WE LOOK FORWARD DOING DURING THIS BUDGET

11:31:07 PROCESS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS WITHIN THE FY

11:31:09 '22 BUDGET.

11:31:11 AND SUBCOMMITTEES.

11:31:13 AND WE ARE WORKING WITH SUBCOMMITTEES TO DO THAT.

11:31:17 THE SUBCOMMITTEES FOR THE MOST PART ARE VERY ACTIVE.

11:31:20 AND WE HAVE EIGHT SUBCOMMITTEES.

11:31:23 I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY MORE THAN ALL OF THE CRAS

11:31:23 THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

11:31:25 SO WE HAVE QUITE A FEW.

11:31:28 AND STAFF HAVE BEEN MEETING AND PARTICIPATING AND

11:31:32 ENGAGING AND INFORMING AND BRINGING INFORMATION BACK TO

11:31:34 THEM DURING THAT PROCESS OF MEETING.

11:31:36 WE ALSO HAVE BEEN RECENTLY APPROACHED AND HAD

11:31:41 CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BLOOMBERG FOUNDATION AND THEY

11:31:44 HAVE TAKEN AN INTEREST INTO EAST TAMPA AND LOOKING AT

11:31:48 SOME OF OUR PROPERTIES AND CORRIDORS TO MAKE

11:31:53 SUGGESTIONS ON THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE MOVING FORWARD.

11:31:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?

11:31:57 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:32:00 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO EXPRESS AND HAVE CONCERN OF

11:32:02 BLOOMBERG'S INVOLVEMENT.

11:32:04 THEM BEING INVOLVED IN THE CRA.

11:32:06 IF THE MAYOR WANTS THEM INVOLVED IN THE CITY, THAT IS

11:32:07 FINE.

11:32:08 WE WILL LOOK AT REPORTS.

11:32:13 STRONGLY OBJECT TO THEM BEING PART OF CRA, YOU,

11:32:16 MICHELLE, NICOLE, YOU HAVE GREAT EXPERTISE.

11:32:18 WE DON'T NEED TO LISTEN TO SOMEBODY FROM OUT OF STATE

11:32:19 TO TELL US WHAT TOO DO.

11:32:22 I HAVE BEEN A CONSULTANT IN OTHER PLACES AND HIRED

11:32:25 CONSULTANTS FROM OTHER PLACES, BUT IN THIS CASE, WE

11:32:27 DON'T -- I THINK THERE IS TOO MUCH INFLUENCE AND TOO

11:32:28 MUCH CONTROL BY ONE ORGANIZATION.

11:32:32 AND WE ARE GETTING ONE PHILOSOPHY POINT OF VIEW WHEN --

11:32:34 WHEN YOU ALL KNOW BEST PRACTICES.

11:32:36 YOU JUST COME BACK FROM WORKING IN ANOTHER PLACE.

11:32:38 YOU KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

11:32:42 WE NEED TO -- WE CAN READ THEIR REPORTS, BUT SHOULD NOT

11:32:45 JUST TAKE WHATEVER THEY GIVE US AND MOVE FORWARD WITH

11:32:47 IT BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT IS BEST IN OUR COMMUNITY AND

11:32:50 LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES FROM AROUND THE WORLD ALREADY.

11:32:52 THANK YOU.

11:32:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.

11:32:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:32:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT SCARES ME.

11:33:00 WE KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

11:33:01 WE KNOW WHAT EAST TAMPA IS LIKE.

11:33:05 I DON'T WANT THEM TO COME IN AND BE A TAKEOVER AND

11:33:07 OVERRULE THE PEOPLE.

11:33:09 AND WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR AND WHAT THEY WANT.

11:33:12 I DON'T KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT THE BLOOMBERG PROJECT, BUT

11:33:15 I WOULDN'T WANT THEM TO COME IN EAST TAMPA AND CRA

11:33:18 TELLING US WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE DONE WHEN WE KNOW SOME

11:33:19 OF THE THINGS WE DO NEED.

11:33:21 I AM KIND OF LEERY ABOUT THAT.

11:33:24 AND MAKE PEOPLE LEERY WHEN THEY HEAR "BLOOMBERG."

11:33:26 COMING TO TAKE OVER.

11:33:27 GENTRIFICATION.

11:33:28 BUZZWORDS.

11:33:33 A BIG BUZZWORD IN THE EAST TAMPA CRA BLOOMBERG COMING

11:33:34 INTO EAST TAMPA AND DOING A STUDY.

11:33:38 WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS OF THAT.

11:33:43 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: UNDERSTOOD.

11:33:44 OKAY.

11:33:46 AND LAST SLIDE WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUDGETS AND

11:33:47 PROJECTS.

11:33:50 THESE ARE PROPOSED DATES FOR OUR UPCOMING BUDGET

11:33:53 WORKSHOPS.

11:33:56 MAY BE TWO OF THEM THAT WOULD BE ADJUSTED.

11:33:59 FOUND OUT YESTERDAY THAT THE FACILITY WE NORMALLY USE

11:34:03 REGAN PARK WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE AND WE WILL MAKE THOSE

11:34:07 DATES -- HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CAC IN THE

11:34:08 UPCOMING MAY MEETING.

11:34:12 ALSO AS IT RELATES TO THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS, THE OTHER

11:34:14 TEN THAT WILL BE HELD.

11:34:16 THE PLAN IS TO GO LINE BY LINE.

11:34:19 AND WE WILL LISTEN TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.

11:34:23 IF IT IS MORE MONEY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE WANT TO

11:34:24 ALLOCATE THOSE DOLLARS.

11:34:28 WE WILL DISCUSS OTHER THINGS THAT THE CAC OR THE

11:34:31 COMMUNITY MAY NOT BE AWARE OF OR REQUIREMENTS THAT WE

11:34:33 ARE BOUND BY FINANCIALLY.

11:34:37 AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE THE BUDGET TO

11:34:40 THEM AND BEING PRESENTED TO YOU AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME

11:34:45 LATER THIS SUMMER.

11:34:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

11:34:49 MR. MCCRAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:34:50 >> MY PLEASURE.

11:34:51 NOT A PROBLEM.

11:34:57 THANK YOU.

11:35:01 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: GIVEN MANY OF THE COMMENTS IN THE

11:35:03 PAST TWO AND A HALF HOURS, I WILL ASK TO DO MY

11:35:07 DIRECTOR'S REPORT BEFORE THE STAFF, SO WE CAN SORT OF

11:35:11 WRAP UP AND COALESCE A LOT OF WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN

11:35:16 TALKING ABOUT, WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING AND SORT OF.

11:35:17 AGAIN, BRING THIS ALL TOGETHER.

11:35:21 I WASN'T QUITE KNOWING THAT WHEN I PUT MY REPORT

11:35:25 TOGETHER THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE QUITE SO -- I KIND OF

11:35:29 LOOK LIKE I HAD SOME SORT OF TAROT READER TO TELL ME

11:35:31 WHAT I SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

11:35:35 BEFORE BY INTO THE POWERPOINT, ON THE BLACKBERG, JUST

11:35:39 WITHIN TEN MINUTES AGO, IT WAS JUST TOLD TO CRA AND

11:35:42 EARLIER THIS THE MORNING THAT WE NEED MORE STAFF.

11:35:44 WE NEED TO GET CONSULTANT.

11:35:47 WE NEED TO GET CONSULTANTS AND WE HAVE MONEY IN THE

11:35:51 BUDGET TO HIRE CONSULTANTS TO HELP TELL US AND ADVISE

11:35:54 US ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES, ON REDEVELOPING

11:35:55 PROPERTIES.

11:35:59 SO THE TWO THINGS WHEN I WAS OFFERED ASSISTANCE BY

11:36:02 BLOOMBERG THINK THAT TOLD THEM THAT I CAN SEE A BIG

11:36:05 HELP WITH IN EAST TAMPA THAT WE DID NOT GET THE GRANT

11:36:08 FOR THE SMART INSTITUTE.

11:36:11 AND THERE IS STILL TALK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.

11:36:15 SO WE ASKED THAT WOULD BE ONE THING THEY WOULD COME AND

11:36:18 BRING THEIR CLUSTER AND THE MANUFACTURING AND HELP WORK

11:36:26 WITH THE CAC AND USF ON OUR BEHALF TO WORK AS PART OF

11:36:30 COALITION AS WE ARE TRYING TO WORK ON SO MANY OTHER

11:36:31 ISSUES.

11:36:33 ONE OF THE TWO ITEMS WE ASKED FOR.

11:36:38 THE SECOND ONE TO PUT MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR WAS LAND

11:36:41 ACQUISITION AND LOOK AT CORRIDORS AND COMMERCIAL

11:36:43 CORRIDORS AND WHAT ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO ACQUIRE

11:36:47 PROPERTIES THAT ARE VACANT, DILAPIDATED, EITHER TO

11:36:50 KNOCK A BUILDING DOWN OR TO REHAB IT AND TURN SOMETHING

11:36:51 INTO IT.

11:36:52 SO I ASKED THEM.

11:36:55 AND THIS IS NOT A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT.

11:36:57 IT WILL NOT BE IN EAST TAMPA FOR THREE YEARS, BUT THEY

11:37:01 WILL COME IN, HAVE WORKSHOPS, LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY

11:37:04 WHICH PRIORITIES, CORRIDORS ARE PRIORITIES AND THEY

11:37:08 WILL LOOK AT, WHAT WOULD LOOK LIKE PRIME OPPORTUNITIES

11:37:11 AND THEY WOULD COME BACK FOR RECOMMENDATIONS.

11:37:14 ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THEY BRING US, AGAIN, LIKE ANY

11:37:16 OTHER CONSULTANT AND ESPECIALLY THIS, MAKING

11:37:17 RECOMMENDATIONS.

11:37:18 HERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU.

11:37:21 IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN THEM, YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT

11:37:24 THAT'S A DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO, THEN AS YOU SAID, WE

11:37:25 IGNORE IT.

11:37:30 BUT WE HAVE GOTTEN FREE ADVICE AND HAVE EXTRA MANPOWER

11:37:32 WITH EXPERIENCE THAT CAN COME IN AND MAKE

11:37:36 RECOMMENDATIONS TO US WHILE WE ARE FOCUSED ON DOING

11:37:38 THESE OTHER THINGS, EVEN WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO PAY

11:37:45 MONEY TO GET OUR OWN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT -- AS WE

11:37:47 TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE PERSON THAT WAS A

11:37:51 BIG FOCUS FOR COUNCILMAN GUDES AND FOR THE CAC.

11:37:53 BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN START ON THE GROUND

11:37:54 RIGHT NOW.

11:37:57 SO, AGAIN, WE ARE NOT HAVING THEM TELL US WHAT TO DO.

11:38:00 WE ARE LOOKING FOR THEIR IDEAS AND OPTIONS AND WHAT

11:38:03 THEY SEE WITH THEIR UNDERSTANDING AND ECONOMIC

11:38:06 DEVELOPMENT BACKGROUND.

11:38:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:38:11 >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE INVOLVED

11:38:12 AS WELL.

11:38:14 THE CONCERN OF THE COMMUNITY POLITICAL SLANDER AND

11:38:16 AGENDA, AND THEY MAY BE WORKING WITH CITIES AROUND THE

11:38:17 WORLD.

11:38:19 A LOT OF CONSULTANTS WORKING WITH CITIES AROUND THE

11:38:23 WORLD AND FIND ONE THAT SPECIALLIZE IN KINDS OF THE

11:38:25 THINGS WE WANT.

11:38:27 THE FIRST I MET YOU.

11:38:29 YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN EAST TAMPA.

11:38:30 YOU STUDIED IT.

11:38:32 OFF MASTER'S DEGREE IN IT.

11:38:36 AND NICOLE JUST CAME FROM A VERY SUCCESSFUL CASE STUDY

11:38:37 IN LAKELAND.

11:38:40 WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE REGULARLY STUDYING BEST

11:38:43 PRACTICES AND NOT FULLY UTILIZING CAPABILITY OF OUR OWN

11:38:43 I'M.

11:38:46 AND WHAT -- WHAT THE GAP IS, WE NEED TO LISTEN TO THE

11:38:51 COMMUNITY, THE PROCESS THAT MR. CITRO TALKED ABOUT THIS

11:38:54 MORNING FOR OTHER -- FOR WEST TAMPA AND OTHER -- WE

11:38:55 NEED TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.

11:38:58 LOOK AT THE BEST PRACTICES THAT WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS

11:39:01 TO BE DONE AND THEN -- AND THEN APPROVE PROJECTS

11:39:03 RELATED TO THAT.

11:39:06 WE ARE ALL, I THINK, GEEKS ON THIS AND STUDYING IT ALL

11:39:07 THE TIME.

11:39:09 MY FEAR BY THE WAY.

11:39:10 YOU TALK OF CORRIDORS.

11:39:14 IT IS NOT ABOUT HOW PEOPLE INTERACT WITH IT, IT IS

11:39:15 ABOUT REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENTS.

11:39:19 AND AS AN EXAMPLE, BOSTON COMMUNITY CAPITAL, THEY BUILT

11:39:22 SHOP HOUSES AND ON THE -- ON THE TOPIC OF AFFORDABLE

11:39:27 HOUSING AND ON THE BOTTOM IS SUBSIDIZED SPACE FOR

11:39:28 ENTREPRENEURS.

11:39:31 SOMETIME TAKE AN EQUITY STAKE IN THE BUSINESS THEY ARE

11:39:33 SUBSIDIZING WITH THE RENT.

11:39:36 BUT THAT PROVIDES SPACE FOR -- FOR ENTREPRENEURS TO SET

11:39:37 UP.

11:39:44 NO -- OTHER THAN OPEN CAFE, NO MAIN COFFEE SHOP IN THE

11:39:45 CORE OF EAST TAMPA.

11:39:48 THE TECH COMMUNITY SAID IF WE HAVE STARBUCKS WE CAN

11:39:53 BUILD UP OUR TECH AND BLOODY BREW AND BLIND TIGER AND

11:39:54 ALL KINDS OF OTHERS.

11:39:57 WE NEED WE NEED TO PROMOTE ENTREPRENEURIALSHIP.

11:39:58 WE NEED TRAINING PROGRAMS.

11:40:00 WE NEED TO SUGGEST THAT PEOPLE START BUSINESSES AND

11:40:03 PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO DO IT.

11:40:06 COFFEE SHOPS FOR THEM TO GET THE ORIGINAL IDEAS AND

11:40:08 ACCESS TO INFORMATION AND CAPITAL AND THAT RADICALLY

11:40:11 TRANSFORM.

11:40:13 THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND DOWNTOWN ST.

11:40:14 PETE.

11:40:17 WHY PEOPLE COME FROM DOWNTOWN ST. PETE AND DOWNTOWN

11:40:20 TAMPA AND SAY A LOT OF GREAT BUILDING AND NOT ENOUGH

11:40:23 ACTIVITY, BECAUSE DOWNTOWN ST. PETE STARTED WITH THE

11:40:27 SOFTWARE, THE ORGANIC GROWTH HOW PEOPLE INTERACT WITH

11:40:29 SPACES INSTEAD OF BUILDINGS.

11:40:32 TAMPA JUST SUBSIDIZES BIG BUILDINGS WITHOUT LOOKING AT

11:40:34 HOW PEOPLE WILL INTERACT WITH THEM.

11:40:37 WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EAST TAMPA IS ABOUT LISTENING

11:40:39 TO THE PEOPLE THERE, LISTENING TO THE BUSINESSES AND

11:40:41 HELPING TO BUILD QUALITY OF LIFE IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND

11:40:44 BUILDING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE ENTREPRENEURS CAN

11:40:46 SUCCEED.

11:40:48 WE DON'T NEED SOMEBODY COMING IN SAYING, YOU KNOW,

11:40:51 PARIS HAS A BIG BOULEVARDS, SO WE NEED TO BUILD

11:40:55 FRENCH-THEMED BUILDINGS ALONG -- ALONG HILLSBOROUGH

11:40:58 AVENUE SO WE WILL PROVIDE A NEW KIND OF GATEWAY TO EAST

11:41:00 TAMPA.

11:41:03 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I WASN'T QUITE EXPECTING A PARIS

11:41:05 FLARE FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT IF IT IS THE

11:41:08 PLEASURE OF THE BOARD THAT I DENY THEIR FREE SERVICES,

11:41:13 I WILL DO THAT.

11:41:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:41:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I NEVER TAKE NOTHING AWAY THAT IS

11:41:19 FREE.

11:41:23 IF IT IS FREE AND THEY CAN LEND A HAND, BUT I JUST WANT

11:41:28 TO MAKE SURE IT IS NOT A TAKEOVER, PER SE.

11:41:30 IF THEY HAVE CONTROL AND THEY ARE HELPING FOR FREE, I

11:41:32 DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH FREE.

11:41:35 WE NEED AS MUCH HELP THAT WE CAN GET WITH IDEAS.

11:41:38 MR. CARLSON HAS BEEN ALL OVER OF THE WORLD AND I

11:41:39 HAVEN'T.

11:41:42 HE HAS SEEN THINGS THAT I WON'T GET TO SEE IN A

11:41:43 LIFETIME.

11:41:48 I APPLAUD HIS EFFORTS AND HE KNOWS HIS EXPERTISE.

11:41:51 I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH FREE, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE

11:41:53 THAT WE STAY KIND OF CONTROLLED.

11:41:55 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: WE CAN IGNORE ABSOLUTELY

11:41:58 EVERYTHING THAT COMES WITH FREE ADVICE AND IT DOESN'T

11:41:59 COST US A DIME.

11:42:02 BUT, AGAIN, WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THAT, THEN WE WILL

11:42:06 LET THEM KNOW RIGHT AWAY AND WON'T ENGAGE ANY MORE

11:42:07 DISCUSSION.

11:42:09 SO --

11:42:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN ATTEST WHAT MR. GUDES SAYING,

11:42:13 IF IT IS FREE, THAT IS FOR A ME.

11:42:16 NO, IF IT IS FREE AND THEY WILL BE OF VALUE AND IT IS

11:42:19 UP TO -- SAFETY VALVES.

11:42:22 YOU SAY YEA OR NAY.

11:42:26 SO IF SIB WANTS TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO HELP WITH YOUR

11:42:29 STAFF COMING IN, AND I AM GOING TO SAY NO TO IT.

11:42:35 I ALSO SAY HEY LISTEN, HOW ABOUT THE NEXT ONE THAT I AM

11:42:35 NOT PAYING FOR.

11:42:38 THE SAME WHETHER YOU ARE FREE OR PAYING YOU.

11:42:41 YOUR STAFF AND YOURSELF AND THE CITY AND THE CRA HAS

11:42:44 THE FINAL DECISION ON WHAT YOU ARE LIKING OR DON'T

11:42:45 LIKE.

11:42:47 AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE

11:42:50 RESPONSIBLE OF MAKING DECISION WHETHER WE APPROVE OR

11:42:51 DENY WHATEVER IS COMING UP.

11:42:54 THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.

11:42:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?

11:43:02 MISS VAN LOAN.

11:43:06 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: SO AIM -- YES USING -- I WANT TO

11:43:08 MAKE CLEAR.

11:43:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ARE ASKING US TO A MOTION TO DENY

11:43:11 USING BLOOMBERG.

11:43:15 DO YOU FOR US TO HAVE A MOTION IN SUPPORT OF BLOOMBERG?

11:43:17 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I DON'T THINK I NEED A MOTION TO

11:43:19 DO IT.

11:43:22 BUT IF YOU WERE DIRECTING ME NOT TOO, I WOULD LIKE TO

11:43:24 KNOW IF THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.

11:43:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY MOTIONS?

11:43:28 MISS VAN LOAN, YOU CAN PROCEED.

11:43:30 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING?

11:43:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO AHEAD COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:43:36 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU PROBABLY STUDY THIS MORE THAN I

11:43:39 HAVE, A LOT OF LITERATURE ON ADDRESSING ISSUES LIKE

11:43:40 THIS.

11:43:44 ONE SMALL PIECE THAT IS NOT SO NEW THAT I ENCOURAGE,

11:43:48 GOOGLE COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE OF THE INNER CITY.

11:43:50 A 50-PAGE REPORT.

11:43:54 NOW 25 YEARS OLD, BUT TAKING A DIFFERENT LOOK AT INNER

11:43:55 CITIES.

11:43:59 AND HOW TO DEVELOP THEM BY BUILDING QUALITY OF LIFE AND

11:44:02 AND BUSINESSES INSTEAD OF GENTRIFICATION.

11:44:05 I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS CRYING TO US EVERY WEEK.

11:44:07 DON'T GENTRIFY, HELP US.

11:44:09 THERE IS A LOT OF WAYS TO DO THAT.

11:44:12 BUT ONE 50-PAGE REPORT THAT YOU CAN READ AND A LOT OF

11:44:14 OTHER LITERATURES OUT THERE AND EXPERTS ON IT.

11:44:16 BUT THAT IS A GREAT START.

11:44:18 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: TO BE CLEAR, WHAT WE ARE ASKING

11:44:22 IS, WHERE DO THEY RECOMMEND THE CRA LOOK AT

11:44:25 OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO STRATEGICALLY ACQUIRE

11:44:27 PROPERTIES SO WE CAN CONTROL THE RFP AND THE TYPE OF

11:44:30 REDEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT IS FOR NONPROFITS OR

11:44:34 INCUBATORS AND WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, BUT WE ARE LOOKING

11:44:37 FOR JUST ADVICE TO HELP US BECAUSE WE HAVE SEVEN AND

11:44:40 THREE QUARTER SQUARE MILES AND A LOT OF COMMERCIAL

11:44:45 CORRIDORS AND A LOT OF DILAPIDATED, VACANT BUILDINGS,

11:44:46 PROBLEM --

11:44:48 >>BILL CARLSON: THE PROBLEM IS WHAT IS THE PLAN?

11:44:50 JUST LOOKING FOR REAL ESTATE FOR WHAT?

11:44:51 WHAT IS THE GOAL?

11:44:54 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THAT WILL GET TO THE NEXT PART OF

11:44:57 MY REPORT, THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE -- TALKING TO THE

11:44:57 COMMUNITY.

11:45:01 NO ONE SAID THIS WAS HAPPENING IN A VACUUM.

11:45:06 BUT THANK YOU FOR THE SEGUE INTO -- CAN YOU BRING UP

11:45:12 THE POWERPOINT FOR NUMBER 7?

11:45:16 SO A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, AT THE

11:45:21 CRA BOARD MEETING LISTENING TO SEVERAL OF THE COMMENTS

11:45:23 SAID, SO WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT EAST TAMPA?

11:45:25 WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN EAST

11:45:26 TAMPA?

11:45:29 AND I HAVE BEEN REALLY THINKING ABOUT, WHAT IS

11:45:30 DIFFERENT.

11:45:31 HOW ARE WE OPERATING.

11:45:33 WHAT ARE WE DOING DIFFERENTLY.

11:45:35 WHAT ARE THE OTHER CACS DOING.

11:45:39 AND HOW ARE WE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE.

11:45:44 AND PURSUING THE SAME PATH.

11:45:55 I HAVE GOT THE SLIDE.

11:46:00 OR NOT.

11:46:01 THERE WE GO.

11:46:06 SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN I LISTEN TO THE CAC

11:46:10 MEETINGS AND ATTEND THE CAC MEETINGS AND YOU HEAR IT IN

11:46:14 OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT COME TO YOU, OUR EAST TAMPA

11:46:18 ACTIVISTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE PARTICIPATING.

11:46:20 WE HAVE INCREDIBLE PASSION.

11:46:23 AND THIS IS NOT SAYING THAT THE OTHER CACS DO NOT RIGHT

11:46:28 NOW, BUT THERE IS SO MUCH PASSION AND SO MUCH ENERGY

11:46:33 AND DEDICATION AND DETERMINATION AND EMPOWERMENT -- I

11:46:36 WANT TO GET BACK TO THE EMPOWERMENT IN A FEW MINUTE --

11:46:37 AND CARING.

11:46:39 YOU HEAR THE FRUSTRATION.

11:46:41 AND I PUT THAT ON PURPOSE.

11:46:42 IMPATIENCE.

11:46:44 WE NEED STUFF TO GET DONE.

11:46:45 IT IS UNIVERSAL.

11:46:47 IT IS WHAT WE ARE HEARING.

11:46:50 IT HAS BEEN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN HEARING AND BEHIND A LOT

11:46:54 OF MESSAGES, THE COMPLAINTS, AND THE IMPETUS OF WHAT

11:46:57 THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY AND I HAVE BEEN COMING AND

11:46:59 TALKING TO YOU ABOUT.

11:47:02 NEXT SLIDE.

11:47:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:47:07 >>BILL CARLSON: I AM NOT AFRICAN-AMERICAN BUT I FIND

11:47:08 SLIDE VERY OFFENSIVE.

11:47:10 PEOPLE SAY OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY THAT THEY

11:47:12 ARE TOO EMOTIONAL.

11:47:14 I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE

11:47:19 TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT KIND OF SLIDE.

11:47:20 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: UNDERSTOOD.

11:47:24 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

11:47:29 SO IT CAME UP AGAIN TODAY THE NUMBER OF CHAIRS WE HAD.

11:47:32 IN FOUR YEARS, WE HAD THREE CHAIRS.

11:47:36 NOT ONLY HAD WE HAD THREE CHAIRS IN FOUR YEARS.

11:47:40 WE HAD MISS GOODLEY FOR TWO YEARS AND IMMEDIATELY AT

11:47:43 THE AT THE END OF HER TWO YEARS A NEW CHAIR AND

11:47:45 IMMEDIATELY A YEAR LATER A NEW CHAIR.

11:47:48 ALL THREE OF THOSE NEW CHAIRS WERE ELECTED CHAIR ON

11:47:51 THEIR FIRST DAY AS A CAC MEMBER.

11:47:55 AND I POINT THAT OUT, BECAUSE IT IS UNPRECEDENTED.

11:47:58 AGAIN, WHAT IS DIFFERENT BETWEEN WHAT IS HAPPENING IN

11:48:03 EAST TAMPA AND WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING AND HOW IS THAT

11:48:05 DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER CACS.

11:48:10 THE REASON THIS IS IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE EVEN THE CAC

11:48:12 MEMBERS BRING IT UP AND IT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT.

11:48:13 WE ARE ALWAYS STARTING OVER.

11:48:16 IT IS VERY COMPLICATED IN EAST TAMPA.

11:48:17 WE HAVE THE CAC.

11:48:19 WE HAVE GOT THE PARTNERSHIP.

11:48:22 AND SO, MANY OF THE OTHER CACS, THEIR CHAIRS HAVE BEEN

11:48:24 ON THE CAC.

11:48:27 THEY HAVE BEEN A PART OF THAT OR ALREADY HAVE BEEN THE

11:48:30 VICE-CHAIR AT THE TIME THEY BECOME TO THE CAC.

11:48:37 SO WE NOW HAVE CHAIRS IN OUR LEADERSHIP THAT IS TRYING

11:48:40 VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS.

11:48:44 THIS IS VERY COMPLICATED FOR EVEN SOME OF HOUSE ARE IN

11:48:45 IT IN A REGULAR BASIS.

11:48:51 ALL THREE OF THOSE FEMALE CHAIRS WILL TELL YOU THE ONE

11:48:55 THING THEY HAD IN COMMON OR MANY MORE, IS THE

11:48:57 CONVERSATION THAT WE AS STAFF HAD WITH THEM EARLY IN

11:48:59 THEIR CAC TENURES.

11:49:02 THAT IS AS SOON AS THEY BECOME CHAIR, THEY ARE

11:49:04 LISTENING TO EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY FEEL

11:49:08 THE WEIGHT OF, AGAIN, THE NEEDS, SO MANY NEEDS IN EAST

11:49:09 TAMPA.

11:49:12 AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO GET IT DONE AND THEY

11:49:13 HAVE TO GET IT DONE VERY QUICKLY.

11:49:18 AND THEY GET OVERWHELMED AND THEY ARE SCRAMBLING AND

11:49:21 TRYING AND AS YOU SEE, TALKING TO WHOEVER THEY CAN AND

11:49:23 GOING TO WHOEVER.

11:49:25 AND THE HOURS THAT THEY ARE PUTTING IN USUALLY ON TOP

11:49:30 OF THEIR OTHER JOBS AND WE HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION.

11:49:33 WE DON'T WANT TO YOU GET BURNED OUT IN THREE MONTH.

11:49:35 WE WANT THE CHAIR TO LAST.

11:49:36 HOPEFULLY TWO YEARS.

11:49:38 MAYBE ANOTHER TWO YEARS.

11:49:41 BUT IT BECOMES SO EASY TO TAKE THAT WEIGHT AND THINK IT

11:49:44 IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS CHAIR TO HAVE TO MAKING IS

11:49:46 HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY.

11:49:49 AND WHEN YOU HAVE 10 OR 15 DIFFERENT NEEDS OF

11:49:51 COMMUNITY, THAT IS A LOT THAT YOU ARE PRYING TO

11:49:52 ACCOMPLISH.

11:49:57 AGAIN, ALL OF THIS IS COMING TO -- ON TOP OF THAT, A

11:50:01 YEAR AGO, SEVEN OF THE 13 CAC MEMBERS CAME IN AND WERE

11:50:02 BRAND-NEW.

11:50:07 THIS PAST OCTOBER, THE OTHER REMAINING SIX CAME IN.

11:50:10 OUT OF THE CURRENT 13 MEMBERS, ONLY TWO HAD BEEN THERE

11:50:11 PREVIOUSLY.

11:50:15 SO, AGAIN, THE INSTABILITY -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY

11:50:15 INSTABILITY.

11:50:17 WE DO NOT HAVE THE CONTINUITY.

11:50:20 WE DO NOT HAVE THAT LEADERSHIP OF PEOPLE IN THE ROOM

11:50:25 WHO ARE USED TO AND UNDERSTANDING OUR PROCESSES.

11:50:29 SO WHAT THAT GETS US WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF DRIVE IS

11:50:32 DRIVE -- IS DRIVE AN ACCEPTABLE WORD?

11:50:37 CAN I SAY DRIVE?

11:50:39 AND --

11:50:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.

11:50:42 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: FOR GETTING THINGS DONE AND FOR

11:50:45 MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

11:50:49 WHAT WE ARE HAVING RIGHT NOW IS A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING

11:50:55 VERY HARD ALL GOING IN LOTS OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND

11:50:57 YOU ARE RECEIVING E-MAILS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND

11:50:59 ONE OR TWO CAC MEMBERS.

11:51:02 AND THEY ARE TALKING TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND THEY ARE

11:51:04 GOING TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

11:51:09 AND THEY ARE ALL GOING OFF TRYING VERY HARD TO PURSUE

11:51:12 AND ACCOMPLISHMENT TO PURSUE A PROGRAM.

11:51:13 WHAT HAPPENS IN ALL OF THAT.

11:51:18 AND THE END RESULT FOR ALL OF THAT IS THAT THEY HAVE

11:51:26 LOST THEIR SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND CAC AND HOW WE HAVE

11:51:28 BEEN OPERATING AND IT CAME EARLIER.

11:51:34 MISS TATE, CHAIR TATE, SAID WHAT IS THE MAGIC THAT WEST

11:51:35 TAMPA IS DOING.

11:51:38 WEST TAMPA IS NOT DOING ANYTHING MAGIC.

11:51:41 NOTHING DIFFERENT THAT WEST TAMPA FROM YBOR OR DREW

11:51:43 PARK WHEN YOU HEARD FROM MARITZA ASTORQUIZA.

11:51:48 THEY ARE ALL FOLLOWING THE SAME BASIC PROCESS.

11:51:51 WHEN THOSE CRA DISTRICTS HAVE SUCCESS, WHAT THEY ARE

11:51:56 DOING IS THE CAC WORK STARTS IN THE CAC.

11:51:59 THOSE DISCUSSIONS START AT THE CAC.

11:52:03 WE HAVE THE DECISIONS AT THE CAC.

11:52:06 WE HAVE SUBCOMMITTEES THAT ARE CREATED AS A TOOL TO

11:52:08 ASSIST THE CACS.

11:52:13 AS WE MENTIONED, NOT ALL CACS HAVE SUBCOMMITTEES.

11:52:16 AND DREW PARK, FOR EXAMPLE, STARTED OFF WITH TWO

11:52:17 SUBCOMMITTEES.

11:52:20 AFTER THOSE TASKS WERE COMPLETED THEY DID NOT NEED THEM

11:52:22 ANYMORE AND THEY DID NOT USE THEM.

11:52:24 DREW PARK THROUGHOUT DESIGNING OF PARKS, THE DESIGNING

11:52:29 OF LOIS, THE DESIGNING OF THE GATEWAY MONUMENTS, AND

11:52:31 THEY DID THOSE DISCUSSIONS AT THEIR CAC.

11:52:34 EAST TAMPA AND IN WEST TAMPA, SO MANY PROGRAMS THAT

11:52:37 THEY ARE WORKING ON, THAT IT CAN NOT ALWAYS HAPPEN IN A

11:52:41 MONTHLY CAC MEETING AND WE THEN AGAIN USE OUR

11:52:44 SUBCOMMITTEES AS TOOLS.

11:52:49 IT IS THE CAC THAT CREATES THEIR SUBCOMMITTEES AND

11:52:50 DIRECTS THAT WORK.

11:52:54 SO ALL THE WORK SHOULD START AT THE CAC.

11:52:58 THE CAC DECIDES WHAT PROGRAMS THEY WANT TO WORK ON

11:53:01 OPINION WHAT THAT OUR PRIORITIES AND THEY REFER THAT

11:53:04 WORK TO THE SUBCOMMITTEES WHO THEN BRING IT BACK.

11:53:09 ALL OF THAT IS IN PARTNERSHIP AND ALL OF THE OTHER CRAS

11:53:10 WITH THE CRA STAFF.

11:53:13 THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE

11:53:16 PROCESSES AND WE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

11:53:19 WHEN THE QUESTIONS GO TO EVERYBODY ELSE, THERE IS

11:53:20 ALWAYS A TIME GAP.

11:53:24 AND YOU GET THE RUMORS AND YOU GET THE QUESTION OF

11:53:27 SHOULD I BE GOING DIRECTLY TO A SUBCOMMITTEE.

11:53:29 SHOULD I GOING TO HERE.

11:53:31 WHO SHOULD I BE TALKING TO.

11:53:33 IF YOU START WITH CRA STAFF, WE CAN ANSWER THAT

11:53:36 QUESTION RIGHT OFF THE BAT AND NO GUESSING.

11:53:38 NO RUMORS.

11:53:40 THIS PAST WEEK AND IN THE LAST 48 HOURS, THE RUMORS,

11:53:43 AGAIN, ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING, WHAT HAS BEEN DONE,

11:53:45 WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

11:53:48 AND IT IS BECAUSE THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE NOT PRIMARILY

11:53:53 FOCUSED ANYMORE AT THE CAC LEVEL.

11:53:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.

11:53:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:54:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST TOOK OFFICE, I

11:54:04 TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY BEING HUNGRY.

11:54:10 I TALKED ABOUT IT A WHILE.

11:54:14 ED JOHNSON WAS THERE FOR A LONG TIME FROM START.

11:54:17 IT WAS A GOOD TIME EARLY STARTING OUT.

11:54:20 AND LIKE I SAID, IT DIPPED WHEN -- WHEN THERE IS

11:54:23 NOTHING TO DO, PEOPLE -- THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED.

11:54:25 THEY SEE NOTHING GOING ON.

11:54:28 NOBODY WANTS TO HELP THE BLACK PEOPLE.

11:54:30 IT IS A MATTER OF TRUST.

11:54:32 THE COMMUNITY HAS TO COME BACK TO TRUST AND BELIEVE

11:54:36 THAT SOMEONE IS GOING TO HELP THEM AND MAKE PROGRAMS

11:54:37 GO.

11:54:38 BRING THAT.

11:54:40 MAKE THEM NOT BE SO HUNGRY.

11:54:41 THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

11:54:44 THEY HAVE TO BELIEVE AND THEY DON'T TRUST ANYMORE.

11:54:46 PEOPLE TELL US SOMETHING AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

11:54:49 AND WE GET FRUSTRATED BECAUSE YOU TOLD US ONE THING

11:54:50 NOW.

11:54:52 SOMEONE ELSE GOT SOMETHING AND WE DIDN'T GET IT.

11:54:54 OR IT IS A FRUSTRATION.

11:54:57 AND A LOT OF PEOPLE PLAN ON UNDERSTANDING.

11:55:00 AND I DO BEING A BLACK MAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT

11:55:01 FRUSTRATION.

11:55:02 I UNDERSTAND BEING POOR.

11:55:05 I UNDERSTAND LIVING IN A COMMUNITY.

11:55:06 IT IS DIFFICULT AT TIMES.

11:55:09 WE HAVE TO BUILD THE TRUST BACK AGAIN THAT THINGS -- WE

11:55:11 ARE GOING TO SHOW THEM THAT SOMETHING IS GOING TO

11:55:11 HAPPEN.

11:55:15 WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, AGAIN, THE CAC MAKE-UP.

11:55:17 SOME OF THESE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW TO KNOW.

11:55:21 PEOPLE GOTTEN ON SUBCOMMITTEES SAYING THIS NEEDS TO

11:55:22 HAPPEN.

11:55:23 WE TALK OF PROCESS.

11:55:25 WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND PROCESS.

11:55:27 SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEES ARE SAYING IS

11:55:28 TRUE.

11:55:31 IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THE CAC MEMBERS NEED TO KNOW

11:55:32 THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

11:55:34 THAT IS THE CONFUSION.

11:55:36 WE BRING IN THE PARTNERSHIP.

11:55:40 SO, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE GOT TO FIND A WAY NOW TO BRING

11:55:43 THIS ALL INTO ONE.

11:55:46 AND TO HAVE A STRAIGHT PROCESS SO PEOPLE WILL KNOW THE

11:55:48 RULES GOING IN, A VIDEO PRESENTATION.

11:55:50 THIS IS HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.

11:55:54 SO NOW THEY CAN CHANNEL THEIR ANGER IN THE RIGHT PLACE.

11:55:56 THEY CAN CHANNEL THEIR QUESTIONS IN THE RIGHT PLACE.

11:55:58 SO WE CAN GET THE RESULTS.

11:56:02 BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHERE ARE THE RESULTS?

11:56:05 SO EVEN IF WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, PEOPLE STILL FEEL

11:56:10 THE TRUST FACTOR IS NOT OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY SEE NO

11:56:12 END OF THE DAY RESULTS IN A WHILE AND THEY ARE STILL

11:56:13 HUNGRY.

11:56:16 THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO GET TO MAKING THEM TRUST AND

11:56:17 BELIEVE IT.

11:56:20 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I AGREE 100%.

11:56:28 AND HERE IS -- HERE IS THE END RESULT.

11:56:32 WE HAVE -- THE PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN FOLLOWED.

11:56:35 THE PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN FOLLOWED FOR MONTHS AND

11:56:35 MONTHS.

11:56:39 THE DISCUSSIONS HAVE NOT BEEN HAPPENING AT THE CAC FOR

11:56:42 MONTHS AND MONTHS.

11:56:48 SO -- SO WHAT I AM ASKING THE CRA BOARD AND YOUR

11:56:53 ASSISTANCE WITH IS TO AID EAST TAMPA.

11:56:56 TO HELP THEM GET BACK ON TRACK.

11:57:00 BECAUSE WHERE WE ARE HUNG UP IS IF THE DISCUSSIONS DO

11:57:05 NOT HAPPEN AT THE CAC, THEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY

11:57:05 WANT.

11:57:07 THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.

11:57:09 THE DISCUSSIONS ARE NOT HAPPENING.

11:57:12 SO -- I BROUGHT THIS UP SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

11:57:15 AND THE DISCUSSIONS STILL HAVE NOT HAPPENED.

11:57:20 SO WE ADOPTED A BUDGET AND FY '22 WITH LINE ITEM, WITH

11:57:21 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

11:57:25 WE TRIED TO START TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT THE CAC

11:57:29 MEMBERS -- AT THE CAC MEETING AS EARLY AS AUGUST AND

11:57:31 THEN OCTOBER AND THEN NOVEMBER.

11:57:33 AND THE TIME RUNS OUT.

11:57:35 THE FOCUS IS IN OTHER PLACES.

11:57:42 AND THEY HAVE NOT AS A CAC, DEFINED WHAT IT IS THEY

11:57:44 WANT THE CONSULTANTS TO DO.

11:57:47 WHAT THEY WANT THE HOUSING PROGRAMS TO DO.

11:57:49 WHAT THEY WANT THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.

11:57:51 WE HAVE THE MONEY THERE.

11:57:55 IT ISN'T THAT STAFF IS NOT RUNNING OUT AND BUILDING

11:57:56 PROGRAMS.

11:58:00 WE NEED THE CAC TO SIT AND TALK AND WE HAVE BEEN HAPPY

11:58:03 TO ALL ALONG TO HELP FACILITATE THE QUESTIONS.

11:58:07 I EVEN PROVIDED -- HERE ARE -- BECAUSE I WAS ASKED, HOW

11:58:11 DO THEY KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS TO ASK?

11:58:13 I WROTE IT OUT FOR THEM AND SAID HERE ARE THE KIND OF

11:58:17 THINGS TO HELP YOU GET AT WHAT IT IS THAT YOU ARE

11:58:18 TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

11:58:22 BASIC PARAMETERS SO WE CAN TAKE THAT AND HELP EITHER

11:58:25 WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE OR WE TAKE IT BACK AND BUILD IT.

11:58:27 AND COME BACK TO THEM.

11:58:31 BUT THE CONVERSATION HAS TO START WITH THE CAC.

11:58:35 OUR STAFF, NO MATTER HOW GREAT WE ARE, ARE OPERATING

11:58:39 IN THE DARK IF ALL I HAVE IS HOUSING, $2 MILLION.

11:58:43 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, $500,000.

11:58:49 I HAVE ONE CAC MEMBER WHO IS FRUSTRATED WITH THE SLOW

11:58:53 PACE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, SAID TO ME JUST A FEW WEEKS

11:58:56 AGO, WE NEED STAFF TO SHOW UP AND PROVIDE THAT

11:58:59 LEADERSHIP SO WE CAN HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS.

11:59:02 THEY ARE WAITING FOR THOSE DISCUSSIONS TO HAPPEN AT THE

11:59:04 CAC.

11:59:07 SO WHAT I AM ASKING IS, IS THAT WHEN YOU GET THE

11:59:12 E-MAILS, WHEN YOU GET THE CALLS OF THINGS NOT

11:59:16 HAPPENING, HAS THE DISCUSSION HAPPENED AT THE CAC?

11:59:21 HELP US BRING THE DISCUSSIONS BACK SO THAT THE CAC

11:59:25 STARTS HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS TO DEFINE WHAT IT IS

11:59:27 AND TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS.

11:59:30 AND I AM GOING TO -- WITH THE OWNER-OCCUPIED.

11:59:33 WHEN WE DID THE TREE TRIMMING GRANT.

11:59:36 VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD TREE TRIMMING GRANT.

11:59:39 IT WAS ABOUT TREE TRIMMING.

11:59:43 AND THAT GRANT EXISTED FOR MONTH, MONTH AND A HALF.

11:59:48 IT WAS PUT ON HOLD BECAUSE NOW IT WAS AN EMPLOYMENT

11:59:50 GRANT TO HELP WITH THE MINORITY BUSINESSES IN EAST

11:59:55 TAMPA TO HELP GET THEM.

11:59:58 AND THAT IS A GREAT GOAL AND WE STOPPED AND ADDRESSED

11:59:59 THAT.

12:00:01 AND BECAUSE OF THE SIZE, THERE WAS THE VOLUME AND THE

12:00:02 FRUSTRATION FROM THE VOLUME AND THE PROCESSES WERE NOT

12:00:03 UNDERSTANDING HOW IT WORKED.

12:00:04 AND SO WE KEPT STARTING AND STOPPING AND STARTING AND

12:00:07 STOPPING WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS AN EASY $2500 GRANT.

12:00:11 NOW YOU HAVE AN OWNER OCCUPIED.

12:00:12 THIS TIME LAST YEAR, MS. RANSOM WAS JUST STARTING IN HER

12:00:17 HOUSING SUBCOMMITTEE TO GET THAT DEFINED AND WORKED SO THAT

12:00:20 SHE COULD GET THAT, AND SHE HERSELF DID A GREAT JOB, MOSTLY

12:00:24 BY HERSELF OR WITH STAFF, TO BRING THAT TO TUITION.

12:00:29 AND YOU ASKED THAT WE NOT HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF RESTRICTIONS

12:00:32 AND CRITERIA AND MAKE IT EASY.

12:00:35 BUT THEN WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO MAKE A PROGRAM

12:00:38 THAT HAS A LOT LESS RESTRICTIONS, BUT STILL HAS THE

12:00:42 SAFEGUARDS SO THAT WE DON'T END UP ON THE PAPER LIKE WE SAW

12:00:45 A FEW MONTHS AGO WITH ANOTHER PROGRAM, AND THAT THERE ARE

12:00:48 THE SAFEGUARDS THAT PEOPLE GET IT, BUT THERE ARE NOTE, AS

12:00:52 WAS SAID EARLIER, ABUSIVE MONEY.

12:00:55 BUT I DON'T HAVE A NEIGHBOR SAYING, YOU JUST GAVE ME A NEW

12:00:58 ROOF, AND HE MAKES X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.




12:01:00 HE WON THE LOTTERY AND THE CITY GAVE HIM A NEW ROOF.

12:01:03 SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A PROGRAM, SO IF

12:01:06 IT TAKES US A COUPLE MORE MONTHS TO GET A PROGRAM THAT IS

12:01:11 WELL VETTED AND WELL THOUGHT OUT, SO THAT WHEN WE ROLL IT

12:01:15 OUT, WE DON'T STOP IT TWO MONTHS LATER, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T

12:01:19 THINK OF SOMETHING, OR THAT WE RAN INTO TROUBLE, NOT THAT

12:01:22 100% WE DIDN'T DO THAT, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE GOT

12:01:25 A PROGRAM THAT WORKS, THAT WHEN WE DO ROLL IT OUT, IT CAN

12:01:29 ROLL OUT AND GO FULL FORCE, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO STOP.

12:01:32 WE CAN JUST KEEP SPENDING THAT MONEY AND GETTING THE MONEY

12:01:35 OUT ON THE STREET.

12:01:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?

12:01:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:01:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND I THINK THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD.

12:01:43 THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THE MOTION ABOUT HAVING THE CAC COME

12:01:47 HERE TO GET THEIR FRUSTRATIONS OUT.

12:01:52 SO THEY CAN TELL US, AND YOU ARE HERE WITH YOUR STAFF TO

12:01:55 FOCUS ON THOSE POINTS OF HOW TO GET IT DONE.

12:01:57 SO I THINK THAT MEANS COME UP ON TUESDAY?

12:02:04 SO NOW WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE, THEY ARE GOING TO BE HERE,

12:02:07 THEY WILL BE ABLE TO TELL US THEIR FRUSTRATIONS AND TELL US

12:02:09 WHAT THEY WANT, WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO DO, PIN IMPORTANT

12:02:14 THINGS DOWN AND GO LINE BY LINE SAYING HOW WE ARE GOING

12:02:17 TO -- HOW ARE WE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH WHATEVER, HOW WE ARE

12:02:22 GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT WITH THE STRATEGY TO DO IT AND WE




12:02:24 GO AND GET IT DONE.

12:02:25 AND KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS GOING FORWARD, SO YOU ARE

12:02:28 SAYING THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEES CAN'T BRING IDEAS TO THE

12:02:31 CAC --

12:02:37 >>JENNIFER MALONE: WHAT I AM SAYING

12:02:40 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THE SUBCOMMITTEE SHOULD, WHEN THEY ARE

12:02:44 BRAINSTORMING AND TALKING, GO TO DEVELOP A PROGRAM THAT DID

12:02:49 NOT TALK TO THE CAC ABOUT.

12:02:51 SO THE CAC IS THE ONE WHO IS DECIDING WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

12:02:56 THEY ARE THE ONES WHO DEVELOP THE BUDGET.

12:02:58 THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE SAYING, OUR PRIORITY IS THIS, THIS

12:03:03 AND THIS.

12:03:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT.

12:03:06 IF I AM ON A SUBCOMMITTEE, AND OUR CAC DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT

12:03:11 ISSUES GOING ON AND I AM IN THE COMMUNITY AND I AM THE CHAIR

12:03:13 OF THAT PARTICULAR SUBCOMMITTEE, AND I DON'T KNOW, THE

12:03:18 CHAIRPERSON OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE SUBMITTING A BRIEF OR

12:03:21 SUBMITTING SOMETHING TO THE CHAIR OF THE CAC SAYING THIS IS

12:03:24 AN ISSUE --

12:03:25 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I AGREE 100%.

12:03:27 WHAT I AM SAYING IS THE SUBCOMMITTEES, JUST LIKE ALL OF YOU,

12:03:31 YOU TELL THE CACS, WE HAVE THE PROCESSES, THIS IS YOUR

12:03:35 PRIORITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THIS IS DEVELOPMENT --

12:03:39 BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.

12:03:39 IF THEY WENT OFF IN LEFT FIELD AND I HAD A COUNCIL PERSON




12:03:43 SAY TO ME THE OTHER DAY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN

12:03:46 THE CACs.

12:03:47 HOW DO WE KNOW THIS IS THE PRIORITY OF THE CAC IS?

12:03:51 THE CAC ALSO NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT THEIR SUBCOMMITTEES ARE

12:03:53 DOING SO IT'S NOT THAT THEY CAN'T WORK ON ANYTHING, BUT IS

12:03:57 THAT THE PRIORITY RIGHT I KNOW?

12:03:58 SO IF THEY DO ALL THAT AND COME BACK, AND THE CAC SAYS RIGHT

12:04:03 NOW I DON'T WANT TO FUND THAT BECAUSE HERE ARE MY OTHER

12:04:05 THREE PRIORITIES THAT ARE HIGHER PRIORITY.

12:04:07 BUT COMMUNICATION HAS TO BE THERE, BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF

12:04:12 THE WORK FLOWS FROM THE CAC.

12:04:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT ON TUESDAY SO

12:04:17 EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE AND GET THIS BOAT ROWING ON

12:04:21 THE RIVER.

12:04:22 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I WAS NOT PLANNING TO TALK VERY MUCH

12:04:24 ON TUESDAY, SO THIS IS BETWEEN YOUR DISCUSSION WITH THEM,

12:04:28 WE'LL RESPOND AS STAFF TO ANY QUESTIONS.

12:04:30 BUT AGAIN IT CAME UP TODAY.

12:04:32 WHAT DOES WEST TAMPA DO THAT'S SPECIAL?

12:04:34 WHAT DOES YBOR DO THAT'S SPECIAL?

12:04:36 THEY TALK TO EACH OTHER AT THEIR CAC MEETINGS.

12:04:39 THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

12:04:41 IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

12:04:45 >>BILL CARLSON: MS. VAN LOAN, THIS IS FOR YOU, THE PUBLIC

12:04:50 AND MY COLLEAGUES, IF I SEEM FRUSTRATED IT'S NOT FRUSTRATION




12:04:56 AT YOU, AND PLEASE DON'T TAKE IT THAT WAY, AND IF YOU HAVE,

12:04:59 I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

12:05:00 MY FRUSTRATION IS JUST FOR THE PROCESS IN WHERE WE ARE, AND

12:05:03 I KNOW YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN AND AROUND EAST TAMPA AND

12:05:06 ALSO THE CRAs AND I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT YOU WILL HELP US,

12:05:09 GUIDE US THROUGH THIS.

12:05:10 BUT AS YOU JUST DESCRIBED, THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGES.

12:05:13 AND I THINK ONE LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS WHAT WE LACK IN

12:05:17 THIS CITY OVERALL, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD FOR A LONG TIME IN

12:05:21 THIS CITY, IS A VISION OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO.

12:05:23 AND WE CAN START WITH THESE CRAs, START WITH THE

12:05:28 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.

12:05:29 WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT WE DO THESE STRATEGY ACTION PLANS, AND

12:05:33 ALL THEY ARE IS LISTS OF PROJECTS FOR SOMEBODY LISTED.

12:05:38 THERE'S NO VISION OF HOW IT ALL TIES TOGETHER.

12:05:40 AND THREE YEARS AGO WE DID A PLAN FOR THE CRA BOARD AND WE

12:05:46 DON'T HAVE THAT, SO THERE'S NO CONSENSUS AND VISION OF WHERE

12:05:48 WE WANT TO GO.

12:05:50 CONSENSUS MAY BE ON THINGS LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT

12:05:53 THAT'S A PIECE OR COMPONENT OF IT.

12:05:55 WHAT WE NEED IN EACH OF THESE DISTRICTS IS A VISION AND A

12:05:57 HOPE OF WHAT WE'LL COME AWAY WITH ON TUESDAY IS NOT JUST

12:06:00 MAYBE A BETTER PROCESS BUT ALSO A VISION FOR WE CAN PICTURE

12:06:04 IN OUR HEADS WHAT EAST TAMPA WILL LOOK LIKE.

12:06:07 AND IT'S NOT DEFINED BY PRETTY NEW BUILDINGS COMING UP BUT




12:06:10 HOW ARE THE PEOPLE GOING TO INTERACT WITH THE SPACE?

12:06:14 THANK YOU.

12:06:14 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THE LAST THING BECAUSE THIS CAME UP,

12:06:19 SO THE LAST THING ABOUT PROCESS IS MONEY, AND HOW IT GETS

12:06:22 SPENT.

12:06:24 THE MONEY GOES THROUGH -- ANY DECISIONS GO THROUGH THE CAC.

12:06:29 THEY COME TO YOU.

12:06:33 IT'S NOT A LINE ITEM AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT --

12:06:35 EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE IT'S GOING.

12:06:37 SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT MR. McCRAY AND

12:06:41 NO ONE ELSE HAS APPROVED $3.5 MILLION FOR ANY PROJECT.

12:06:46 THE SECOND THING THAT WAS ANOTHER PROBLEM WAS AGAIN THAT I

12:06:53 TALKED ABOUT THAT ENERGY TO GET SOMETHING DONE AND THE

12:06:57 EXCITEMENT TO GO DO THAT AND GET SOMETHING DONE IS THAT THE

12:07:01 PRESS -- YOU COME TALK TO CRA STAFF BECAUSE HERE IS WHAT WE

12:07:05 DO.

12:07:05 WE TALK TO WHOEVER IS INTERESTED, AND ONE, WE KNOW THE CRA

12:07:11 CAN SPEND THE MONEY ON IT, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF 163 BUT

12:07:15 WHAT'S IN THAT CRA'S COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN?

12:07:17 IT'S LIKE YOU SAW, SEVERAL CRAs CAN HAVE CULTURAL ASSETS

12:07:21 BUT TAMPA HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT COULDN'T.

12:07:24 THEIR CAC DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

12:07:26 THAT'S OUR STAFF'S JOB TO KNOW THAT AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO

12:07:28 AND WE RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME.

12:07:30 THEN EVEN IF WE CAN LEGALLY SPEND IT, IS THERE MONEY IN THE




12:07:34 CURRENT BUDGET, HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN, AND IF NOT, THE

12:07:38 NEXT YEAR.

12:07:39 THAT AGAIN IS OUR JOB PRIOR TO GETTING TO THE CAC, AND THEN

12:07:44 WE CAN RECOMMEND TO THEM AND LET THEM KNOW THE PROCESS AND

12:07:47 THE NEXT STEP TO GET YOUR REQUESTS MADE, IS TO COME TO THE

12:07:52 CAC, MAKE THE REQUEST, AND THEY MAY REFER IT TO A

12:07:56 SUBCOMMITTEE JUST LIKE THE SKILLS CENTER DID, THAT WENT TO

12:07:59 THE SUBCOMMITTEE, AND IT CAME BACK TO THE CAC FOR A VOTE.

12:08:02 SO THEY REFERRED IT AND IT CAME BACK, AND THE PROCESS WENT

12:08:06 THROUGH THAT.

12:08:07 SO WITH OUR STAFF, THAT'S THE RULE THAT WE PLAY.

12:08:12 AND WITH THE ONE ISSUE ON THE 3.5 MILLION, THERE WAS

12:08:16 SUDDENLY A DISCUSSION THAT HAD TO GO TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE,

12:08:18 AND THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, FIRST NEEDS TO START WITH US BECAUSE

12:08:22 WE NEED TO TALK TO OUR ATTORNEY, BECAUSE THAT'S A GRAY LINE

12:08:27 THAT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN FUND IN EAST TAMPA.

12:08:30 AND ONCE WE KNEW ABOUT IT AND AFTER I REVIEWED THE COMMUNITY

12:08:34 REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, I ALREADY LET MORRIS KNOW, I DON'T THINK

12:08:38 WE CAN FUND IT.

12:08:38 AND IF WE CAN, IT DEFINITELY NEEDS INTERPRETATION.

12:08:42 BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN OBVIOUS THING THAT WE CAN.

12:08:45 SO IF YOU SEND IT OFF TO YOUR SUBCOMMITTEES, YOU HAVE GOT

12:08:48 THE MONEY OUT THERE, RESEARCHING SOMETHING, THAT WE ARE

12:08:51 GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY, I'M SORRY, WE CAN'T FUND THAT.

12:08:55 SO AGAIN, I WANTED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, THAT MR. McCRAY




12:09:01 HAS NOT APPROVED, NONE OF US HAVE APPROVED AND THAT IS NOT

12:09:04 DONE THAT WAY.

12:09:04 AND THE REASON I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT, IT WAS BROUGHT UP

12:09:07 THIS MORNING THAT YOU WERE ASKED TO MAKE SURE, WE DON'T

12:09:09 ABUSE THE CRA FUNDS.

12:09:12 AGAIN, WE CAN'T SPEND FUNDS AND WE DON'T SPEND FUNDS, BUT

12:09:15 HAVE THOUGHT BEEN APPROVED THROUGH THE CAC, THROUGH ALL OF

12:09:22 YOU, AND I HAVE TO HAVE RESOS, I HAVE TO HAVE MOTIONS, SO WE

12:09:28 CANNOT ABUSE THOSE FUNDS.

12:09:29 WE CAN ONLY SPEND THEM AS THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED THROUGH

12:09:31 THE PROCESS.

12:09:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE LAST COMMENT AND THEN I'LL MOVE ON.

12:09:38 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

12:09:40 >>LYNN HURTAK: IT SOUND -- AND I AM COMING INTO THIS

12:09:43 OBVIOUSLY JUST IN THE LAST WEEK, BUT SOUND LIKE A OF

12:09:50 MISCOMMUNICATION.

12:09:51 HAVE YOU DONE ANY TYPE OF LIKE A PowerPoint PRESENTATION

12:09:53 TO GO TO THEM AND SAY, THESE ARE THE PROCESSES, LET'S TALK

12:09:56 THIS OUT BEFORE WE EVEN -- AUGUST, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER?

12:10:03 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: YES.

12:10:03 AND EVEN WHEN WE DO THE CAC TRAINING THAT WE DID, ONE OF THE

12:10:07 THINGS WE POINT OUT AS COUNCILMAN CAN TELL YOU IS WE DON'T

12:10:12 EXPECT TO MEMORIZE THEM, NO, EVERYTHING THAT WE JUST TOLD

12:10:15 YOU.

12:10:15 THE SAME LINE I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT.




12:10:17 WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, YOU HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT THIS,

12:10:20 YOU REMEMBER THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IT, YOU REMEMBER THAT WE

12:10:23 BROUGHT IT UP, AND THAT YOU KNOW THAT EITHER YOU CAN COME

12:10:26 BACK AND ASK, OR THERE'S A RESOURCE IN WHAT WE GAVE YOU AND

12:10:29 THE HANDOUTS.

12:10:30 AND ALL OF THOSE PowerPointS HAVE BEEN E-MAILED AND GIVEN

12:10:34 AND SHARED.

12:10:36 BUT RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A LOT OF EFFORTS GOING IN A LOT OF

12:10:42 PARALLEL DIRECTIONS.

12:10:44 >>LYNN HURTAK: IF I MAY, A SUGGESTION THAT I USE A LOT IN

12:10:50 THE WORK I DO, IS THAT PEOPLE ARE OFTEN AFRAID TO TELL YOU

12:10:54 WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW.

12:10:56 MAY I SUGGEST THAT -- I KNOW IT'S MORE WORK, BUT UNTIL WE

12:10:59 GET THIS SETTLED, GO TO EVERY MEMBER INDIVIDUALLY AFTERWARD.

12:11:04 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: MR. McCRAY HAS BEEN MEETING ONE ON

12:11:09 ONE WITH MEMBERS BEFORE THE MEETINGS SO THERE CAN BE

12:11:12 DISCUSSIONS.

12:11:12 SO IT'S MONTHLY.

12:11:13 >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT EVEN AFTER THE MEETINGS IS WHAT I AM

12:11:17 SAYING.

12:11:18 PEOPLE HEAR THINGS.

12:11:19 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: YES.

12:11:20 >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE, EVEN

12:11:23 BEFORE AND AFTER, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ASK QUESTIONS IN A

12:11:26 COMFORTABLE STATE THAT'S NOT OUT IN THE PUBLIC.




12:11:31 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: OF COURSE.

12:11:32 AND THAT'S WHY OUR OFFICE IS THERE IN THE COMMUNITY.

12:11:34 AND IT'S ALWAYS THERE, NOT JUST BEFORE AND OF AFTER THE

12:11:36 MEETINGS.

12:11:37 STAFF IS ALWAYS ACCESSIBLE.

12:11:38 >> BUT AGAIN A COMMUNITY THAT'S NOT EXPERIENCED, THERE IS A

12:11:46 TRUE FEAR OF GOING AND ASKING, SO IF YOU COME AND ASK, IT'S

12:11:52 A DIFFERENT APPROACH, JUST TO CONSIDER.

12:11:55 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I APPRECIATE THAT, YES.

12:11:57 >> THEY HAVE TO KNOW WHO TO ASK.

12:12:03 IT HAS TO BE A TWO-WAY COMMUNICATION.

12:12:05 I AM NOT TRYING TO GET OUT OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

12:12:07 WE WANT TO ENGAGE.

12:12:08 WE CANNOT BE EFFECTIVE WITHOUT THAT DIALOGUE.

12:12:11 WE CANNOT HELP MOVE THE COMMUNITY FORWARD.

12:12:14 WE CANNOT BE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE WE ARE, BY YOUR STRUCTURE,

12:12:20 SET UP TO BE IN PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE STAFF AND THE CAC.

12:12:25 WE ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF 30,000 PEOPLE PLUS IN EAST

12:12:29 TAMPA.

12:12:30 WE WANT THE DIALOGUE.

12:12:31 WE WANT EVERY OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DIALOGUE.

12:12:36 AGAIN, MY REQUEST IS FOR THE HELP TO BRIDGE THAT GAP TO KEEP

12:12:42 GETTING THE DIALOGUE GOING.

12:12:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER FINAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR

12:12:49 STATEMENTS?




12:12:49 IF NOT I WILL MAKE MINE.

12:12:53 THANK YOU.

12:12:55 I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HAVE BEEN ON CAC BOARDS, CAC

12:13:02 COMMITTEES.

12:13:04 I THANK PEOPLE LIKE MRS. ORR BACK THERE, MRS. THROWER, AND

12:13:10 CORRINE WHO WERE WITH THE YBOR CAC, THE EXPERIENCE I HAVE

12:13:17 HAD FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AND UNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS.

12:13:20 I AM GOING TO USE THIS SPORTING ANALOGY.

12:13:22 A COACH COMES IN AND TEACHES THE TEAMMATES HOW TO PLAY THAT

12:13:29 SPORT.

12:13:31 AND, IN TURN, THOSE TEAMMATES TEACH EACH OTHER, TO SCORE THE

12:13:38 HOME RUNS, TO SCORE THE TOUCHDOWN, TO SCORE THE GOALS.

12:13:45 WE NEED TO HAVE CONSISTENT COACHES THAT HAVE AFRAID GAME,

12:13:52 THAT HAVE TAUGHT OTHER PEOPLE HOW TO PLAY THE GAME, AND HOW

12:13:55 TO SCORE, TOUCHDOWNS, HOME RUNS, GOALS.

12:14:03 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. VAN LOAN.

12:14:05 MEMBERS, BOARD MEMBERS, IT'S 12:15 NOW.

12:14:16 OKAY.

12:14:21 12:15 NOW.

12:14:22 12:30 WE WILL BE FINISHED OR WE WILLING GOING TO LUNCH.

12:14:26 IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYONE?

12:14:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT DO WE HAVE LEFT

12:14:31 UNDER STAFF REPORTS?

12:14:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF, STAFF

12:14:37 REPORTS FROM CRAS, OTHER THINGS TO IMPROVE UPON.




12:14:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION WE POSTPONE

12:14:42 THOSE STAFF REPORTS TO MAYBE TUESDAY ON THAT SPECIAL CALL?

12:14:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A SPECIAL CALL, THERE SHOULD BE NO BUSINESS

12:14:48 BEING DONE THAT WAY, MR. MASSEY?

12:14:52 >>MORRIS MASSEY: A SPECIAL CALL MEETING IS BETWEEN THIS

12:14:54 BOARD AND THE EAST TAMPA CAC TO DISCUSS ISSUES SPECIFIC TO

12:14:58 THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AREA ONLY.

12:15:00 SO WE REALLY CAN'T AUTHORIZE IT OTHER THAN THAT.

12:15:04 THAT'S THE SOLE PURPOSE OF -- BRIEFLY SINCE IT CAME UP, YOU

12:15:08 KNOW, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS, YOU ALL WE WILL RESERVE THE

12:15:15 PART OF THE CHAMBERS FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE CAC.

12:15:18 WE HAVE ARRANGED FOR AN AGENDA FOR THEM TO COME UP AND

12:15:23 ADDRESS YOU AND THEN STAFF TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

12:15:27 THERE'S ALSO A POINT IN THE AGENDA WHERE WE ALLOW ANY ISSUES

12:15:30 THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE AGENDA, THE CAC MEMBERS

12:15:33 WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS YOU ON THOSE MATTERS, TO COME UP AND

12:15:36 ADDRESS YOU ON THOSE MATTERS.

12:15:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN WE FORGO THE MONTHLY

12:15:44 REPORTS, AND QUICKLY, WITHIN TEN MINUTES WE CAN DO THESE

12:15:50 APPROVALS AND BE DONE.

12:15:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SECOND THAT.

12:15:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. VAN LOAN, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH

12:15:56 THAT?

12:15:57 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I AM, BUT --

12:16:03 >> SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.




12:16:05 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

12:16:06 AND IS THERE ANY NOS ON THAT?

12:16:10 MOTION PASSES.

12:16:10 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: ITEM 10.

12:16:17 >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE STILL RECEIVE -- I KNOW WE DO HAVE

12:16:20 WRITTEN INFORMATION, BUT ANYTHING THEY MAY HAVE PRESENTED TO

12:16:24 COME ON?

12:16:25 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: BASICALLY FOR THE STAFF REPORTS, THEY

12:16:27 JUST GIVE YOU HIGHLIGHTS FROM THAT.

12:16:30 SO WHAT WE'LL DO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE

12:16:33 INFORMATION AND ESPECIALLY FOR COUNCILMAN HURTAK, AGAIN, AND

12:16:42 IN YOUR FIRST WEEK, BUT WHEN THE OTHER CRA BOARD MEMBERS

12:16:46 STARTED, WE WILL SET UP ONE ON ONES WITH YOU, WITH THE

12:16:49 VARIOUS CRA MANAGERS, AND ALSO FOR THE SHORT TERM IF THERE'S

12:16:52 ANY QUESTIONS, ANYTHING SPECIFIC.

12:17:01 ITEM 10 IS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU APPROVED IN QUESTIONS.

12:17:05 THE CENTER FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS ENLISTED SEVERAL

12:17:08 PROPERTIES THEY WOULD LIKE TO HELP WITH CLEAN-UP.

12:17:11 AND THEY REQUESTED NINE BUT THEY WENT OVER LAST TIME SO I

12:17:14 JUST WOUND IT UP TO TEN.

12:17:15 THE CAC APPROVED TEN.

12:17:17 AND THAT IS BEING HELD AT THE END.

12:17:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO APPROVE.

12:17:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY

12:17:24 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.




12:17:24 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:17:26 IS THERE ANY AGAINST?

12:17:27 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: NUMBER 11 IS SOMEWHAT CONTROVERSIAL.

12:17:41 THIS IS LIKE YOU DID WITH THE STRAZ, 90,000 FOR

12:17:45 INFRASTRUCTURE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TAMPA HOUSING

12:17:48 AUTHORITY.

12:17:48 ALL OF THOSE STAND HE-ALONE GRANTS THAT YOU DO.

12:17:52 WE DON'T DO THEM VERY OFTEN.

12:17:54 THEY ARE MORE CIRCUMSTANTIAL.

12:17:58 TO WRITE A PROGRAM OR A GRANT GUIDE FOR THAT, BECAUSE THEY

12:18:03 ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND AGAIN WE DON'T DO MANY, MANY OF

12:18:06 THESE, AND THE PROCESS IS THE SAME FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.

12:18:09 YOU MAKE THE REQUEST TO THE CAC.

12:18:13 THEY CAN, AT THEIR CHOICE, REFER IT TO A SUBCOMMITTEE, THE

12:18:16 CAC VOTES ON IT, AND THEN IT COMES HERE.

12:18:18 WITH THIS ITEM I AM JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT PROCESS AND

12:18:22 STEPS.

12:18:24 THEY CAME AND TALKED, THE SUBCOMMITTEE, THAT CAME TO THE

12:18:29 CAC, THE CAC VOTED 10-1 TO APPROVE IT.

12:18:35 I AM GOING TO FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM SAY THERE APPEARS TO

12:18:40 BE BUYER'S REMORSE, AND SO THE ONE REQUEST YOU GOT FROM MS.

12:18:49 MILLER SHE WAS THE ONE NAY VOTE OF THE 11 VOTES AT THE CAC

12:18:53 AND THE CHAIR HAS EXPRESSED CONCERNS.

12:18:56 SO THERE IS NOTHING ON THE STAFF SIDE THAT IS PUSHING OR

12:19:02 ANYTHING ELSE.




12:19:03 AS YOU SAW, YOU APPROVED 25 MILLION FOR THE STRAZ WITH THE

12:19:07 BUDGET, THERE WAS ONE PowerPoint AND FIVE LINES IN THE

12:19:10 BUDGET.

12:19:11 WE HAVE HAD DETAILED CONSTRUCTION BUDGETS FOR $150,000.

12:19:16 SO THIS HAS BEEN BASED ON WHETHER A CAC OR THE CRA BOARD

12:19:22 FEELS THAT THIS IS AN ITEM THAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF

12:19:25 THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN WHAT DOES YOUR INVESTMENT GET YOU?

12:19:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?

12:19:32 THERE IS A LOT OF CONTROVERSY ON THIS ITEM.

12:19:34 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: UH-HUH.

12:19:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM FOR THE SKILLS CENTER BUT I DON'T

12:19:41 KNOW WHAT WE GAIN FOR THAT.

12:19:42 I THINK THAT'S THE CONCERN.

12:19:45 NO DIFFERENT THAN THE STRAZ WITH THESE ITEMS.

12:19:49 WHAT DO WE GET ON OUR INVESTMENT WITH THIS KIND OF MONEY?

12:19:53 I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

12:19:55 I THINK THE BOARD WANTS TO FIGURE OUT, WHAT DO WE DO?

12:19:58 SO I WILL RESERVE, UNTIL WE GET SOME ANSWERS ON THAT, TO

12:20:01 DEFER IT TILL WE GET TO THE NEXT MEETING, SO THEY CAN KNOW

12:20:05 WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON AND WHAT THEY GAIN FOR THEIR MONEY.

12:20:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MASSEY.

12:20:10 >>MORRIS MASSEY: ONE THING MENTIONED ABOUT THE STRAZ

12:20:13 FUNDING, WE DID HAVE A VERY LARGE FUNDING AGREEMENT THAT

12:20:17 WENT INTO LONG DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THE BUDGET WAS GOING TO BE

12:20:19 USED FOR.




12:20:20 SO IF YOU WANTED TO DEFER THIS UNTIL WE HAD AN AGREEMENT,

12:20:23 MAYBE SPELL OUT THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL --

12:20:29 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT NOT PUT

12:20:33 TOGETHER AN EXTENSIVE FUNDING AGREEMENT IF THERE WAS NOT

12:20:36 APPEAR TO BE, I USE IT, IN KILN ACE, SO IF IT IS NOT GOING

12:20:40 TO GO THROUGH, WE ARE NOT GOING TO -- AGAIN, LIKE THE STRAZ,

12:20:44 OR WITH THE TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART, OR EVEN YOU SAW OVER A

12:20:49 COUPLE OF MEETINGS JUST 150,000 AROUND THE AMALIE ARENA.

12:20:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAD THE FEELING, WHAT I AM HEARING, WHAT

12:20:57 THEY GET FOR THEIR BUCK.

12:20:58 THAT'S WHAT I AM HEARING.

12:20:59 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: AND ANY APPROVAL WOULD STILL BE

12:21:03 CONTINGENT UPON A FUNDING AGREEMENT.

12:21:05 SO EVEN IF THAT'S THREE MONTHS FROM NOW, BUT THAT WOULD BE A

12:21:10 FUNDING AGREEMENT.

12:21:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO DEFER TILL THE NEXT MEETING.

12:21:14 >> SECOND.

12:21:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:21:19 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BE MANISCALCO.

12:21:21 ANY DISCUSSION?

12:21:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW, I'LL VOTE -- WELL, LET ME ASK YOU,

12:21:28 IF I MAY, THIS FUNDING SOUGHT, IT'S NOTHING TIME LIMITED,

12:21:32 YOU KNOW, THEY NEED IT FOR SOME SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT'S

12:21:35 COMING UP, DEFER FOR 30 DAYS IT'S GOING TO HURT THEM IN ANY

12:21:39 WAY.




12:21:43 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: NO.

12:21:43 THIS CAN -- LIKE I SAID, OF COURSE, THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE

12:21:48 THEIR OWN CERTAINTY THE OF KNOWING, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO

12:21:50 OUT AND GET OTHERS.

12:21:51 BUT AGAIN, FOR 500,000 ANYBODY WILL WAIT UNTIL THAT DECISION

12:21:56 COMES OR ANOTHER 30 DAYS.

12:21:59 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL VOTE FOR THE MOTION, IF THERE HAS BEEN

12:22:02 SOME INQUIRIES, ET CETERA.

12:22:04 BUT FOR ME, THIS IS WHAT CRA SHOULD BE DOING.

12:22:09 I WENT LIKE OTHER FOLKS HERE TO THE SKILLS CENTER.

12:22:11 I THINK THEY DO REMARKABLE WORK.

12:22:13 REMARKABLE WORK.

12:22:14 AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM GET THESE FUNDS, SO UNLESS

12:22:20 THERE'S SOME HUGE SURPRISE, I HOPEFULLY PLAN ON

12:22:23 ENTHUSIASTICALLY VOTING FOR THIS ITEM WHENEVER IT RETURNS TO

12:22:26 US NEXT TIME.

12:22:29 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: COULD I ASK FOR YOUR MOTION AGAIN,

12:22:31 JUST SO THERE'S CLARITY OF PROCESS AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT

12:22:34 TO EXPECT, CAN WE REFER IT BACK TO THE CAC FOR THE CAC TO

12:22:38 ENGAGE IN THE DISCUSSION WITH THE SKILLS CENTER, HAVE THEM

12:22:42 COME WITH THEIR QUESTIONS, SO THAT THEY CAN BE ANSWERED, SO

12:22:45 THE SKILLS CENTER KNOWS WHAT TO EXPECT, AND YOUR CAC MEMBERS

12:22:49 KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.

12:22:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN RESTATE THE MOTION.

12:22:54 THIS BE REFERRED BACK TO CAC ALONG WITH THE SKILLS CENTER TO




12:22:57 TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND ANY OTHER OUTCOMES OR MEASURES

12:23:04 THAT WILL INCORPORATE WITH OUR CAC.

12:23:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES,

12:23:10 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:23:12 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

12:23:16 LET'S CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.

12:23:18 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

12:23:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

12:23:20 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

12:23:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

12:23:22 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

12:23:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

12:23:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

12:23:24 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

12:23:25 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: NOW WE ARE GOING TO BE ON A ROLL.

12:23:29 NUMBER 13 IS A CAC APPOINTMENT TO THE TAMPA HEIGHTS

12:23:31 RIVERFRONT OF PATEL.

12:23:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:23:39 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:23:40 ANY DISCUSSION?

12:23:42 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.

12:23:43 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

12:23:46 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

12:23:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

12:23:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.




12:23:50 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

12:23:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

12:23:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

12:23:53 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

12:23:54 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: NUMBER 14 IS CAC APPOINTMENT OF SEAN

12:23:59 TO THE DOWNTOWN CAC.

12:24:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND BY

12:24:05 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:24:06 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:24:08 ANY OPPOSED?

12:24:10 MOTION CARRIES.

12:24:10 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I AM GOING TO HOLD 15 TO THE END.

12:24:13 THERE'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSION ON IT.

12:24:15 16, THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY TIF, THIS IS JUST A

12:24:19 YEAR ROUND FINANCIAL REPORT.

12:24:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GUDES, MANISCALCO.

12:24:25 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:24:27 MOTION CARRIES.

12:24:28 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: ITEM 17 AND 18 ARE JUST DIVIDED

12:24:31 BECAUSE THEY ARE YBOR 1 AND 2.

12:24:33 THIS IS THEIR SCOPE OF WORK FOR THEIR CONTRACT FOR THEIR

12:24:35 CLEAN TEAM THAT NOW ALSO COMBINES THEIR AMBASSADORS WHO HAVE

12:24:39 THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS NOW, AND THIS IS TO

12:24:42 FUND IT AND THEN THEY WILL GO OUT FOR RFP IN A COUPLE WEEKS.

12:24:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY MIRANDA, SECOND BY MANISCALCO.




12:24:48 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:24:49 ANY OPPOSED?

12:24:50 MOTION CARRIES.

12:24:50 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: NUMBER 19 IS ALSO CHANNEL DISTRICT,

12:24:55 SAME THING, THIS WILL BE YEARLY CONTRACT TO HELP CLEAN UP,

12:24:59 WITH ALL THE CONSTRUCTION, THERE'S SO MUCH PAINTING, THERE'S

12:25:02 SO MUCH LANDSCAPING OVER THE YEARS, AND SO THEY ARE LOOKING

12:25:04 TO ALSO PUT OUT AN RFP FOR AN ANNUAL BASIS OF A MAINTENANCE

12:25:09 CONTRACT.

12:25:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MOVED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,

12:25:14 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:25:15 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:25:17 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?

12:25:18 MOTION CARRIES.

12:25:18 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY, WE ARE GOING TO TALK

12:25:24 ABOUT NUMBER 15 IN A MINUTE BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF

12:25:26 SOMETHING THAT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY WOULD LOVE TO

12:25:30 HAVE, AND IT'S UNFAIR THAT CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY THAT

12:25:34 DON'T HAVE SLUM AND BLIGHT ARE GETTING SPECIAL TREATMENT.

12:25:38 BUT I VOTED FOR IT ANYWAY.

12:25:39 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: NUMBER 20 IS THE DOWNTOWN CRA HAS OUR

12:25:45 OLDEST COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AT 1983, AND 1988.

12:25:50 THEY DO NOT HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN.

12:25:52 WE ARE REQUESTING THE 300,000 EXPECTED TO BECOME A LOT LESS,

12:25:57 BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME.




12:25:58 THANK YOU.

12:25:59 BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, BUT WE ARE ASKING TO

12:26:02 UPDATE THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.

12:26:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY

12:26:07 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:26:08 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:26:09 ANY OPPOSED?

12:26:09 >>BILL CARLSON: QUICKLY, I VOTED FOR THAT, BUT TWO THINGS,

12:26:16 NUMBER ONE, WE ASKED FOR ALL THE PLANS TO BE UPDATED THREE

12:26:19 YEARS AGO, I'M SURPRISED IT TOOK SO LONG.

12:26:22 NUMBER TWO, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT SUNSETTING THIS OR

12:26:26 PUTTING A CAP ON IT BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SUBSIDIZE

12:26:30 THESE AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE SLUM AND BLIGHT ARE GOING TO

12:26:33 COME BEFORE US AND START COMPLAINING MORE AND MORE AS THEY

12:26:36 SEE THESE THING CONTINUE.

12:26:37 SO I HOPE THAT, I WON'T ASK FOR A VOTE TODAY BUT I HOPE AS

12:26:41 WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN THAT THE CAC

12:26:43 AND THE COMMUNITY WILL PUT IN WHAT THEY WANT, BUT THEN WE

12:26:46 CAN LOOK AT THE END OF THAT, THAT WE CAN EITHER SUNSET OR

12:26:50 PUT A CAP ON IT.

12:26:51 THANK YOU.

12:26:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANY NOs ON THAT?

12:26:57 MOTION APPROVED.

12:26:58 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: WOULD YOU PREFER I TAKE 15 ON THE SAP

12:27:06 OR 21 ON THE PARKS AND WEST TAMPA FIRST?




12:27:16 OKAY, SO I WILL GO TO 21.

12:27:18 THE CAC HAS BEEN TRYING TO EXPEDITE THE IMPROVEMENTS TO REY

12:27:22 PARK AND SALCINES PARK, REQUESTING THIS REPROGRAMMING,

12:27:27 150,000 WOULD GO TO DESIGN CONSTRUCT FOR SALCINES PARK, THE

12:27:34 PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS TAKEN FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND

12:27:37 NOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH HIRING A DESIGNER

12:27:40 TO ACTUALLY DESIGN THAT.

12:27:42 SAME CONCEPT FOR REY PARK.

12:27:45 IT'S A LITTLE MORE -- ALSO THE CAC WENT ONE STEP FURTHER AND

12:27:49 ASKED THAT THERE BE AN ASSESSMENT.

12:27:51 COMMUNITY BUILDING ALSO TO SEE WHAT UPGRADES AND OTHER

12:27:55 PROGRAMS.

12:27:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,

12:27:59 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:28:00 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

12:28:02 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?

12:28:06 LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE THEN ON THAT.

12:28:08 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.

12:28:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

12:28:13 >>LUIS VIERA:

12:28:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:

12:28:15 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

12:28:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

12:28:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

12:28:18 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.




12:28:21 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST THINK THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF LACK OF

12:28:26 HAVING A VISION, THE SALCINES PARTICULARLY, AND I HAVE DONE

12:28:29 SOME RESEARCH IN THE PAST, AND I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT

12:28:33 MAINTAINING AND BUILDING PARKS, BUT ALSO OUGHT TO LOOK AT

12:28:37 THE BEST USE OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY LIKE THIS, AND I THINK

12:28:41 WE NEED TO HAVE A VISION FOR HOW OUR COMMUNITIES ARE GOING

12:28:45 TO INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF JUST REPLACING THINGS

12:28:48 THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.

12:28:50 THERE USED TO BE, I THINK, IT WHATS A PHARMACY, SALCINES

12:28:54 PHARMACY, AND IN THE 70s THEY WERE DESPERATE TO FIGURE OUT

12:28:59 HOW TO REDEVELOP THE AREA SO THEY TOOK $20,000 FROM THE

12:29:03 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO HAVE A PARK AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE

12:29:05 TO HAVE A PARK IN THAT AREA.

12:29:07 WE NEED PARKS BUT NOT IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.

12:29:10 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE YOUR COMMENTS

12:29:12 BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT THE CAC KNOWS THAT WAS YOUR COMMENT.

12:29:17 THE LAST ITEM, BACK TO NUMBER 15, THIS IS THE CHANNEL

12:29:20 DISTRICT CRAs STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, JUST LIKE WE HAVE

12:29:24 DREW PARK SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, SO THIS WILL BE A SIMPLE

12:29:28 MOTION FOR ADOPTION OR NOT, AND DISCUSSION.

12:29:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN.

12:29:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:

12:29:36 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:29:37 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

12:29:39 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?




12:29:40 MOTION PASSES.

12:29:45 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

12:29:46 >>BILL CARLSON: SAME THING ON THIS ONE AS THE DOWNTOWN ONE.

12:29:49 WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING A CAP A YEAR OR SO AGO AND THE

12:29:53 COMMUNITY SAID WE THINK WANTED A STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN

12:29:55 UPDATE.

12:29:56 I THINK YOU ALL MET WITH FOLKS LIKE I DID, AND LISTENED TO

12:29:59 THEM.

12:29:59 THEY SAID THEY INCLUDED EVERYTHING THEY WANTED IN HERE AND

12:30:03 SUDDENLY GOES UP FOR LIKE ANOTHER 3 TO 5 YEARS, BUT STILL

12:30:08 HAS ABOUT 10 YEARS.

12:30:09 THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT.

12:30:11 ONE IS NOT TO TOUCH THE CRA, THE OTHER IS TO PUT A CAP ON IT

12:30:14 AFTER THESE ITEMS, AND THE THIRD ONE IS TO LEAVE LIKE 10 OR

12:30:18 20% IN THE CRA FOR THE DURATION BUT TAKE THE REST OF IT AND

12:30:21 MOVE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

12:30:22 AND ALTHOUGH THE CRA BOARD CANNOT CONTROL WHERE THE MONEY

12:30:25 GOES, IF IT'S NOT IN THERE, CITY COUNCIL CAN BECAUSE WE

12:30:29 CONTROL THE BUDGET, SO WE CAN SET UP A PARK FUND OR

12:30:32 SOMETHING.

12:30:32 BUT MORE AND MORE WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM OTHER

12:30:34 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE SUBSIDIZING IN PLACES WHERE THERE IS

12:30:38 SLUM AND BLIGHT, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, BUT IN DOWNTOWN CHANNEL

12:30:41 DISTRICT THEY ARE ASKING WHY ARE OUR PARKS FALLING APART,

12:30:44 WHY DON'T WE HAVE SIDEWALKS, WHY DO WE HAVE POTHOLES?




12:30:48 THEY DON'T WANT US TO RAISE TAXES.

12:30:50 LAST THING I WILL SAY THERE ARE AT LEAST THREE PROPOSALS FOR

12:30:53 NEW CRA DISTRICTS, AND WHAT YOU SHOULD THINK OF IS THAT

12:30:56 REALLY NEEDS INCREASE IN TAXES FOR THE REST OF THE CITY,

12:30:58 BECAUSE IF WE -- ESPECIALLY FOR POLICE AND FAIR, IF WE DRAIN

12:31:02 RESOURCES IN CERTAIN EARS WHERE WE SET UP CRAs OR TIFS,

12:31:08 THERE'S NO WAY TO PAY FOR THE OTHER THINGS, SO A VOTE FOR

12:31:11 CRA IS REALLY VOTING FOR INCREASE IN TAXES FOR EVERYBODY.

12:31:14 SO I WOULD ASK EVERYBODY TO PLEASE LOOK AT THAT CAREFULLY.

12:31:17 THANK YOU.

12:31:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT CRA IS NOT EQUAL TO OTHERS BECAUSE

12:31:25 THEY GET THE BENEFIT OF MORE MONEYS COMING INTO THEM THAT

12:31:28 OTHERS PAY FOR INDIRECTLY.

12:31:30 SO I AGREE WITH THAT.

12:31:31 AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL.

12:31:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.

12:31:36 INFORMATION REPORTS?

12:31:39 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?

12:31:44 GUDES?

12:31:46 HURTAK?

12:31:47 MANISCALCO?

12:31:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST WOULD LIKE TO WISH MY FATHER A

12:31:53 HAPPY 63RD BIRTHDAY.

12:31:54 >>LUIS VIERA: I DID WANT TO JUST PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE

12:31:59 THERESA PIERRE COY WAS A MARVELOUS ATTORNEY, JUST A GREAT,




12:32:07 GREAT WOMAN, SHE WAS A COLLEAGUE AND A FRIEND, AND SHE

12:32:10 PASSED ON, I BELIEVE IT WAS, MONDAY, I BELIEVE, AND I KNOW

12:32:14 WE ALL SEND OUR BEST TO HER HUSBAND TRAVIS AND CHILDREN, AND

12:32:19 JUST A TREMENDOUS LOSS.

12:32:21 SHE WAS SUCH A GOOD, DECENT WOMAN.

12:32:24 SO GOD BLESS HER.

12:32:25 THANK YOU.

12:32:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOUR FATHER HAD ONE THING IN COMMON WITH

12:32:30 MY GOOD FRIEND PETE ROSE.

12:32:32 HE'S ALSO 81 YEARS OLD TODAY.

12:32:34 >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: IF YOU WILL INDULGE ME ONE SECOND.

12:32:34 SHERISHA JACKSON, OUR OFFICE SUPPORT SPECIALIST, WHO HAS

12:32:49 BEEN WITH US OVER TEN YEARS, IS TAKING A VERY LARGE

12:32:53 PROMOTION AND WILL BE WORKING IN OUR SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT

12:32:57 OVER ON THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE.

12:32:59 WE ARE VERY EXCITED FOR HER.

12:33:00 SHE STARTS MONDAY.

12:33:03 SO PLEASE GO AHEAD AND BE AWARE WE ARE ALREADY LOOKING AND

12:33:11 EVALUATING APPLICANTS THAT HAD ABOUT RECENTLY DONE A

12:33:14 RECRUITMENT, AND I CAN JUST PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT.

12:33:18 SO WE ARE GOING THROUGH THAT NOW, AND I HOPE TO HAVE IT

12:33:20 FILLED IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

12:33:22 BUT I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE EVERYTHING THAT SHE HAS DONE AS

12:33:27 PART OF THIS DEPARTMENT AND WATCHED US DO SO MUCH ESPECIALLY

12:33:30 IN THE COURSE OF CRAs AND BEING AN ESSENTIAL PART OF OUR




12:33:35 DEPARTMENT.

12:33:35 WE WILL FOREVER BE IN HER DEBT AND I WANT TO PUBLICLY WISH

12:33:38 HER WELL AND THANK HER.

12:33:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AGREE.

12:33:40 I LOOK FORWARD TO HER E-MAILS GIVING ME INFORMATION ON WHERE

12:33:43 I NEED TO BE AT TIMES.

12:33:45 MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE?

12:33:47 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:33:48 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:33:51 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:33:52 WE'LL SEE YOU AT 5:01.

12:34:21 (MEETING ADJOURNED)

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