CRA/CAC JOINT MEETING
TUESDAY, APRIL 19, 2022
5:00 P.M. SPECIAL CALL MEETING



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17:02:58 >> JOSEPH CITRO:
GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO THIS SPECIAL CRA MEETING.

MY NAME IS JOSEPH CITRO, AND I AM THE CHAIR.

I WILL BE CONDUCTING THIS MEETING.

MAY WE HAVE INVOCATION?

WE DON'T HAVE AN INVOCATION.

BUT MAY I ASK EVERYONE THAT'S PRESENT PLEASE RISE?

WE HAD A VERY DEAR MEMBER OF OUR CITY COUNCIL FAMILY, MS.

DEBBY MERCER WHO PASSED AWAY.

CAN WE HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE, PLEASE?

(MOMENT OF SILENCE)

I THANK YOU.

PLEASE BE SEATED.

ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

17:03:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.

17:03:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
(NO RESPONSE)

17:03:55 >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.




17:03:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.

17:03:59 >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.

17:03:59 >>LUIS VIERA:
(NO RESPONSE)

17:04:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.

17:04:01 >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

17:04:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. MASSEY.

17:04:07 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
SINCE THIS IS A JOINT MEETING OF BOTH THE

CRA AND THE EAST TAMPA CAC, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A ROSTER OF

THE CAC MEMBERS. COULD YOU DETERMINE WHETHER WE HAVE A

PHYSICAL QUORUM AVAILABLE FOR THE CAC?

17:04:16 >>CLERK:
TATE?

17:04:27 >> HERE.

17:04:28 >> COBB?

17:04:28 >> PRESENT.

BILLUPS?

BURTON?

MILLER?

17:04:32 >> HERE.

17:04:35 >> CURRY?

17:04:36 >> HERE.

17:04:37 >> FEW?

17:04:38 >> HERE.

17:04:39 >> JOHNSON?

17:04:39 >> HERE.




MARSHALL?

LEWIS?

MARTINEZ?

17:04:44 >> HERE.

17:04:45 >> MARTINEZ?

17:04:47 >> HERE.

17:04:49 >> JAMES?

17:04:51 >> HERE.

17:04:51 >> AND PARIS.

17:04:52 >> HERE.

17:04:54 >> CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

17:04:56 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
LET ME JUST CONFIRM, MR. McCRAY, DO WE

HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT?

SEVERAL MEMBERS, I THINK, ARE PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY.

17:05:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HOW MANY MEMBERS DO WE HAVE HERE?

WE NEED TO HAVE SEVEN AND WE ONLY HAVE SIX.

17:05:16 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]

17:05:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

17:05:27 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
BEFORE WE START THE NIGHT, THIS IS A VERY

DIFFERENT MEETING THAN WE NORMALLY HAVE, SO I WANTED TO READ

TO YOU ALL SOME PROPOSED SPECIAL RULES OF PROCEDURE TO SEE

IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE CRA, EAST TAMPA CAC.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS JOINT MEETING IS TO ALLOW FOR OPEN

DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE CRA AND THE CAC TO DISCUSS ISSUES




RELATED TO COMMUNITIES REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS IN THE EAST

TAMPA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

NOTICE OF SPECIAL CALLED MEETING, THIS MEETING IS

ANTICIPATED TO BE MORE OF A LISTENING AND LEARNING SESSION

BY BOTH BODIES.

THE CHAIR OF THE MEETING WILL BE THE CHAIR OF THE CRA, MR.

CITRO.

THERE HAS BEEN A ROLL CALL.

WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM OF BOTH BODIES AS REQUIRED BY

STATE LAW AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINIONS.

WE WILL PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FOR PERSONS WHO ARE

NOT A MEMBER OF THE CAC AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING,

IT'S GENERALLY THREE MINUTES PER PERSON IN ACCORDANCE WITH

THE CRA RULES.

AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE PARTICIPATION BY MEMBERS OF THE

PUBLIC BY WAY OF COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, CMT, IF

THEY PREREGISTERED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS

CONTAINED IN THE NOTICE OF THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.

THE DISCUSSION OF THE ISSUES BY THE CRA AND CAC WILL FOLLOW

THE MEETING AGENDA.

CRA STAFF WILL BRIEFLY INTRODUCE EACH ITEM ON THE MEETING

AGENDA, AND THEN THE CAC MEMBER THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE

CRA WILL PROCEED TO THE PODIUM IN CHAMBERS AND ADDRESS THE

CRA MEMBERS HERE.

CRA MEMBERS MAY ASK QUESTIONS OF BOTH THE CAC MEMBERS WHO




ARE PARTICIPATING AND GIVING TESTIMONY, AND STAFF.

STAFF WILL BE PERMITTED TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS POSED BY

BOTH THE CRA AND CAC MEMBERS.

CAC MEMBERS WILL ALSO BE PERMITTED TO ADDRESS THE CRA ON

ISSUES THAT ARE NOT EXPRESSLY INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA UNDER

OTHER ITEMS AT THE END OF THE AGENDA.

AS STATED, THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A DISCUSSION AND LEARNING

SESSION MORE AKIN TO A WORKSHOP.

THEREFORE, I WOULD RECOMMEND OFFICIAL ACTION BE LIMITED

TONIGHT.

HOWEVER, IF A MEMBER OF THE CRA DESIRES TO MAKE A MOTION, I

WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY DO SO AT THE END OF THE MEETING

AND REALLY ONLY MOTIONS OF THE CRA BOARD WILL BE CONSIDERED

TONIGHT.

THIS IS MORE FOR THE CAC TO PROVIDE THEIR INPUT TO THE CRA

BOARD AND FOR THE CRA BOARD TO PERHAPS TAKE ACTION DEPENDING

ON WHAT THE COMMUNICATION THAT TRANSPIRES TONIGHT.

SO IF THOSE SPECIAL RULES ARE ACCEPTABLE TO THE BODY, I

WOULD ASK THAT YOU WAIVE THE NORMAL RULES AND BOTH AGREE TO

COMPLY WITH THE RULES.

17:08:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.

17:08:04 >> SECOND.

17:08:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED

BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?




IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIES WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES BEING ABSENT.

17:08:22 >> DO I HAVE CONCURRENCE FROM THE CAC MEMBERS TONIGHT? A

MOTION.

17:08:25 >> SO MOVED.

17:08:25 >> SECOND.

17:08:26 >> ALL IN FAVOR?

ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT AS TO THE

RULES.

AND SO I WILL LET MR. McCRAY OR MS. TRAVIS INTRODUCE THE

FIRST ITEM, BUT THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE EAST

TAMPA STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN UPDATE, AND CONCERNS REGARDING

THE CONCEPT OF THE DRAFT SAP, AND THEN ADDITIONAL REQUESTED

SERVICES BY THE CONSULTANT IN PAYMENT FOR THOSE SERVICES.

17:08:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. MASSEY, IF I MAY, I DO HAVE A STATEMENT

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE BEFOREHAND.

IT IS WITH GREAT SADNESS THAT I AM SHARING THAT MICHELLE VAN

LOAN HAS INFORMED ME THAT SHE HAS ACCEPTED A NEW POSITION

WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND HAS GIVEN HER TWO WEEKS'

NOTICE.

MICHELLE STARTED WITH THE CITY IN 2005 AND SERVING THE CRA

COMMUNITIES FOR 14.5 YEARS.

SHE HAS OVERSEEN THE CONSTRUCTION OF ROBERT HOLD SENIOR

POND, NORTH 22ND, REPAVING, NEW SIDEWALKS IN EAST TAMPA,

DIRECTLY SERVED THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESSES OF EAST




TAMPA, DREW PARK, WEST TAMPA. MICHELLE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN

DEVELOPING THE FACADE GRANT AND COORDINATING MORE THAN 150

APPROVED GRANTS.

MICHELLE HAS DEDICATED HERSELF TO HER COMMUNITY, HER

CO-WORKERS AND STAFF, AND IN SERVING US THE PAST TWO YEARS

AS OUR DIRECTOR.

I AM APPRECIATIVE IN HER SUPPORT FOR ME AND THE BODY OF THIS

NEWLY-ELECTED CRA BOARD.

I KNOW THAT YOU WILL JOIN ME IN WISHING HER WELL IN HER

FUTURE ENDEAVORS.

MS. TRAVIS, CAN YOU PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM?

17:10:06 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

17:10:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING THE

GAVEL?

BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE A VOID WITHIN THE CRA, I WOULD LIKE TO

MOVE THAT MS. NICOLE TRAVIS BECOME THE INTERIM CRA DIRECTOR

UNTIL THE FUTURE CONTRACT IS TRANSPIRED.

IN SEPTEMBER?

17:10:33 >> I THINK IT ENDS IN SEPTEMBER.

17:10:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ENDS IN SEPTEMBER.

THAT IS A MOTION.

17:10:41 >>BILL CARLSON:
IS THERE A SECOND?

17:10:46 >> I SECOND IT.

17:10:47 >>BILL CARLSON:
ANY COMMENTS ON THE MOTION?

I AM GOING TO VOTE NO BECAUSE I THINK IT SHOULD BE A CRA




STAFF PERSON INSTEAD OF A CITY STAFF PERSON.

SO WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF CRA STAFF PEOPLE THAT WE CAN

CHOOSE FROM.

I WILL ALSO SAY WHILE I HAVE THE FLOOR IS THAT WE NEED TO --

THE LAST TIME, IT SEEMED LIKE THE CITY PUSHED THE DECISION

ON US, AND THIS TIME WE NEED TO FIND SOMEBODY WHO MEETS OUR

CRITERIA THAT WE CAN WORK WITH AND WORK CLOSELY WITH US.

SO WITH THAT, SHOULD WE TAKE A ROLL --

17:11:24 >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I? TO YOUR POINT, HOW LONG, MR. CHAIRMAN

AND NICOLE, WHOEVER IT COULD BE, DO YOU ANTICIPATE MAYBE

BEING AN INTERIM?

HOW LONG DOES THIS BODY THINK IT WILL TAKE?

SEPTEMBER?

OKAY.

17:11:38 >> I BELIEVE MR. MASSEY, CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, THAT THE

SERVICE AGREEMENT CONTRACT, DID IT RUN WITH THE FISCAL --

17:11:53 >> IT RUNS WITH THE FISCAL YEAR.

CURRENTLY IT PROVIDES THE CITY WILL PROVIDE THE CRA DIRECTOR

FOR THE CRA.

IF THE CRA IS UNHAPPY WITH THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY

THE CRA DIRECTOR, THE CONTRACT PROVIDES THAT NOTICE WILL BE

PROVIDED BY THE CITY AND THEN THERE WILL BE A SIX MONTHS

PERIOD FOR US TO TRY TO FIND SOMEONE THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO

THE CRA.

THAT'S GENERALLY WHAT THE SERVICES AGREEMENT PROVIDES.




I THINK SIX MONTHS OR LESS, LESS THAN A CALENDAR YEAR.

TO TRY TO FIND SOMEONE FOR THOSE SERVICES OUTSIDE OF THE

CITY STAFF, IF THAT'S THE DESIRE.

17:12:29 >>BILL CARLSON:
IT IS TAKING US BACK TO WHERE WE WERE UNDER

THE LAST ADMINISTRATION.

17:12:35 >> NICOLE TRAVIS:
NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.

NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR, DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC

OPPORTUNITY.

ONE OF THE REASONS I SPOKE TO COUNCILMAN CITRO EARLIER,

LEARNING OF MS. VAN LOAN'S RESIGNATION, BUT SHE IS MOVING

INTO MY PORTFOLIO IN A DIFFERENT ROLE.

I HAVE EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND IN CRAs AND REDEVELOPMENT.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY MAYOR CASTOR RECRUITED ME TO COME TO

WORK FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.

I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS TAKING YOU BACK.

WE ARE NOT TAKING OVER THE DIRECTOR POSITION.

I AM SIMPLY OFFERING MY SERVICES AND MY EXPERTISE TO FILL

THE GAP UNTIL COUNCIL DECIDES AT THE END OF THE SERVICE

LEVEL AGREEMENT OR DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME IF YOU WANT TO

RECRUIT FOR A DIRECTOR POSITION OR NOT, IF IT'S WORKING, I

SIMPLY OFFERING MY SERVICES.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR IT.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT CRA STAFF IS CITY

STAFF.




AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S COMING IN HERE, THERE'S A LOT

OF DIVISION AND TERRITORIAL STUFF.

I ONLY LOOK AT IT AS US ALL WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF

THE COMMUNITY.

SO YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT FROM THE DAY I GOT CONFIRMED TO DO

THAT AND YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT TO DO THAT.

17:13:48 >>BILL CARLSON:
DO YOU ALL WANT TO MAKE THAT VOTE WITH ONE

MEMBER ABSENT?

17:13:53 >>LUIS VIERA:
AND I AM GLAD, TWO THINGS, THAT I AM GLAD YOU

BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A MEMBER WHO IS ABSENT

WHO REPRESENTS MOST OF THE CRAS, AS A DISTRICT MEMBER,

NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, HOWEVER, YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN, COUNCILMAN

CARLSON, WITH REGARDS TO THE ISSUE THAT WE WANT THE CRA

PERSON TO BE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CRA, NOT STAFF.

THAT BEING SAID, MOVING FORWARD WITH MRS. TRAVIS, I AM MORE

THAN WILLING TO TRUST HER BASED UPON OUR CONVERSATIONS AND

WHATNOT, I THINK FOR THIS SHORT TERM.

I'M FINE WITH IT, BUT I DO SEE YOUR POINTS.

YES, SIR.

17:14:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE

TO LOOK UP THE RECORD OF MS. TRAVIS AND WHAT SHE HAS DONE

WITH CRAs IN THE CITY OF LAKELAND, PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS,

DO.

I HAD THE MAYOR OF LAKELAND COMPLAIN TO ME BECAUSE HE WANTED




MS. TRAVIS BACK.

SO, AGAIN, I BELIEVE, I KNOW THAT MS. TRAVIS WILL BE THE

PERFECT PICK FOR THE INTERIM.

17:14:53 >>BILL CARLSON:
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENT?

17:14:54 >> COUNCILMAN MEMBER GUDES IS ON HIS WAY IN. WAIT TILL HE

SHOWS UP.

17:15:03 >>BILL CARLSON:
DO YOU WANT TO VOTE TO VOTE NOW?

17:15:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAIT FOR MR. GUDES.

17:15:13 >> JUST GO INTO RECESS.

17:15:16 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
WE CAN GO INTO RECESS, BUT REALLY THE

FIRST ITEM HAS BEEN REALLY OPENED.

IF YOU WANT TO ALLOW TESTIMONY.

17:15:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LET'S HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

17:15:28 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
AND BY THE TIME PUBLIC COMMENT IS OVER, I

THINK COUNCILMAN GUDES WILL BE HERE, AND WE'LL BE PREPARED

TO TAKE IT --

17:15:34 >>BILL CARLSON:
TECHNICALLY, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO, TABLE

IT?

DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT?

17:15:39 >>LYNN HURTAK:
BEFORE WE TABLE IT, EVERYONE HAS BEEN

TALKING ABOUT TAKING -- MS. TRAVIS TAKING THIS POSITION, AND

I THINK THAT -- I SPOKE WITH HER EARLIER TODAY AND TRIED TO

GET TO KNOW, AS I LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CRA SYSTEM, AND HER

EXPERIENCE FROM NOT ONLY -- NOT ONLY THAT, HER EXPERIENCE

WITH LAKELAND, BUT ALSO WHAT SHE HAS DONE, HOW SHE HAS BEEN




WORKING WITH THE CURRENT COMMUNITY, AND BUILDING SOME

BRIDGES AND SOME TRUST, AND I'M HOPING THAT IN THIS INTERIM

PERIOD IT CAN JUST CONTINUE.

SO I WILL VOTE FOR HER IN THAT, BELIEVING THAT CONTINUING TO

BUILD BRIDGES AND TRUST IS A GOOD IDEA.

17:16:34 >>BILL CARLSON:
AND I WILL JUST ADD, I TALKED TO YOU.

I HAVE FULL FAITH IN YOUR ABILITY IN YOUR POSITION.

I JUST THINK THAT THE CRA SHOULD BE SEPARATE.

AND ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAD IS THE INDEPENDENCE OF IT.

AND WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE PRESS CONFERENCES WERE SET UP

WITHOUT AND THE CHAIR EVEN BEING INVITED OR WHEN THE CHAIR

WAS NOT AVAILABLE, AND IF YOU CAN HELP RESOLVE THOSE

PROBLEMS, YOU HAVE A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE HERE UPSET -- OR

SOME ARE UPSET BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE -- AND THE FOCUS

HASN'T BEEN PUT ON GETTING THINGS DONE.

SO I THINK IF WE END DOING THIS THAT IT SHOULD BE LIKE 30 OR

60 DAYS TO FIND A REPLACEMENT, BUT WE HAVE STAFF INTERNALLY

THAT COULD DO THIS AS WELL. ANYWAY, THERE WAS A MOTION TO

TABLE THIS.

IS THERE A SECOND?

17:17:20 >> SECOND.

17:17:24 >>BILL CARLSON:
ALL IN FAVOR?

MOTION PASSES.

YOU CAN HAVE THE GAVEL BACK.

17:17:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.




WE WILL GO INTO PUBLIC DISCUSSION, PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AT THIS TIME, ALL WITHIN THE PUBLIC THAT ARE HERE, WITH THE

EXCEPTION OF CAC MEMBERS, PLEASE COME UP.

YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

17:18:00 >> MY NAME IS RICK KUGLER. I LIVE IN EAST TAMPA. I'M THE

ENGLEWOOD BLOCK.

THREE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN EAST TAMPA.

JUST THREE ITEMS.

ONE IS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SAFER CLEANER BIKE PATHS IN AND

AROUND EAST TAMPA SO WE CAN ALL NAVIGATE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND NO BROKEN GLASS.

THAT'S ONE THING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE QUIETER MORE PEACEFUL STREETS WHERE

NEIGHBORS KNOW THAT QUIET HOURS IN EVERY 24 HOUR CYCLE.

IF SOMEONE NEEDS TO BLAST SOUND PAST 10 P.M., FINE, BUT JUST

GET HEAD PHONES.

I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE USING THAT AS REGULAR BARS UP NORTH.

YOU CAN GET YOUR OWN SET OF PERSONAL HEAD PHONES AND YOU CAN

BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

IF SOMEONE IS REGULARLY IGNORES THE SPEED LIMIT IN OUR HOOD,

I THINK THEY NEED TO BE SHOWN WHERE THE RACETRACK IS.

THERE'S WAY TOO MUCH RACING GOING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

HIGH SPEED, CHASES, AND FOR FUN, PUT A RACETRACK BUT NOT IN

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.




AND THE LAST THING I THINK, THE THIRD THING I WOULD REALLY

LOVE TO SEE IN EAST TAMPA IS A STRONG NEIGHBORHOOD

ASSOCIATION THAT SERVES THE PEOPLE, HELP MANY WITH THEIR

PROBLEMS, HELPS MANY WITH THEIR HOUSING OR PERSONAL

TROUBLES, AND NOT JUST TO SERVE A FEW, BUT TO SERVE AS MANY

AS POSSIBLE.

AND I THINK THAT IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD

ASSOCIATIONS ARE STRONG AND CAN SPREAD THE MONEY WHERE IT

NEEDS TO BE RATHER THAN LINING JUST A FEW POCKET, I THINK IT

WOULD BE MUCH BETTER FOR ALL OF US IN EAST TAMPA.

AND I THINK ALSO WE NEED TO FOCUS ON OUR SPENDING OUR FUNDS

IN EAST TAMPA, NOT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND I'M CONCERNED FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN THAT THAT'S WHAT HAS

HAPPENED HISTORICALLY.

AND AGAIN, WE GET CHEATED OF THE FUNDS THAT REALLY SHOULD BE

GOING TO US.

BUT PLEASE DON'T TAKE MY WORDS.

I'M JUST A RETIRED PERSON, HAD A LOT OF TIME TO GO TO THESE

MEETINGS.

AND THERE ARE LOTS OF US THAT CAN COME TO THESE MEETINGS

THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY WORKING.

I THINK WE NEED TO REACH OUT AND SURVEY THE FOLKS THAT CAN'T

MAKE IT.

THE PEOPLE WITH NO CHILDREN, PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING, AND OUR

ELEVENTH AND TWELFTH GRADERS WHO ARE GOING TO GO OUT IN THE




WORLD SOON AND NEED THE SKILLS TO CONTINUE.

WHEN I SAY SKILLS, I MEAN CAPITAL SKILLS.

I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF PREPARING OUR YOUNG PEOPLE SO THEY

CAN MAKE HOUSING AFFORDABLE FOR THEMSELVES.

AND IF WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THAT, WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE KIDS.

IF WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE KIDS IN EAST TAMPA, GIVING THEM

THE SKIMS THEY NEED FOR THE FUTURE, THEN WE ARE IN FAVOR OF

EAST TAMPA.

OTHERWISE, I CAN'T SEE ANY OTHER WAY OTHER THAN WE ARE JUST

OUT FOR OURSELVES.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

17:21:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

17:21:16 >> HELLO. DIANN ZEIGLER. I LIVE HERE IN EAST TAMPA.

I'LL BE BRIEF.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1, I AM DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THE SAP,

THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN FOR EAST TAMPA, LOOKS BEAUTIFUL,

AND I ADMIRE THE RENOVATIONS THAT THE EI CONSULTANTS HAVE

DONE ELSEWHERE.

ONE THING THAT I NEED IS A FUNCTIONING NEIGHBORHOOD

ASSOCIATION FOR WHERE I LIVE.

I'M IN THE ETBCA, EAST TAMPA BUSINESS AND CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

WE AS RESIDENTS NEED REPRESENTATION.

I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A MEETING YET.

I'M STILL TRYING TO FIND OUT IF THEY HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS.

I REMEMBER SEEING A NEWS ARTICLE RECENTLY ABOUT A ROOF




GETTING REPAIRED, AND I WAS LOOKING INTO THAT ARTICLE.

I NOTICED THAT THIS MAN ROBERT GRUBER, DOESN'T EVEN LIVE IN

EAST TAMPA, HE LIVES OVER NEAR THE ZOO, THE LOWRY PARK ZOO.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW THAT MONEY WORKS IN EAST TAMPA, BUT

I GUESS IF MONEY IS GETTING SPENT ELSEWHERE OUTSIDE OF THE

BORDERS OF EAST TAMPA, AND I THINK THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE

ADDRESSED.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING TOGETHER AS A NEIGHBORHOOD

ASSOCIATION AND TALKING ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS.

THANK YOU.

17:22:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

17:22:41 >> GOOD EVENING.

MONA JUDGE.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START WITH THE CRA.

I WAS ON THE BOARD FOR TWO YEARS.

AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BE HERE MOST BECAUSE OF YOU GUYS,

YOU KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON, YOU KNOW THAT EAST

TAMPA HAVEN'T GOT -- IT'S REALLY DUMB.

FROM THE TIME I WAS THERE, I KNOW WE GOT THE TREE TRIMMING

GRANT.

AND WHEN WE WANTED TO CHANGE THE TREE TRIMMING GRANT, THAT'S

WHEN EVERYTHING STOPPED.

WHEN WE WANT TO SAY THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

CONTRACTORS INSIDE OF EAST TAMPA BE ABLE TO GET THESE BIDS.

IT WAS A PROBLEM.




I CAME IN AT THE END, AND I KNOW MICHELLE -- I'M SORRY, I AM

NOT SURE -- BUT I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS, I AGREE WITH

COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BECAUSE IF IT'S LIKE US THAT REALLY

DON'T THINK THE DECISIONS -- I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THE

DECISION IS COMING FROM THE MAYOR, IF IT'S COMING FROM YOU

GUYS, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT COMING FROM THE PEOPLE WE PAY

TO ADVISE US.

WE CAN'T GET ANYTHING DONE.

AND IT IS NOT US.

THE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.

AND WE HAVE HAD THREE DIFFERENT CHAIRS IN THE LAST FOUR

YEARS, AND THEY DON'T WANT THE SAME THING.

WE ARE NOT STUPID.

AND IF WE ARE FRUSTRATED, WE HAVE A DAMN RIGHT TO BE

FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I AM FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I HAVE TO GET OFF

OF WORK TO GET DOWN FOR THIS.

YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.

YOU HAVE SEEN ALL THE OTHER CRAs COME UP AND TELL YOU WEEK

AFTER WEEK, MONTH AFTER MONTH, WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WE

AREN'T DOING ANYTHING.

YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKED MICHELLE, WHY AREN'T YOU GUYS

GETTING ANYTHING DONE?

WE DID A HOUSING RFP, AND TO THIS DAY, IT HAS NOT GONE

THROUGH.

THAT'S JUST UNACCEPTABLE.




AND THEN YOU LOOK AT US AS IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE

DOING.

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO TELL THE STAFF WHAT WE WANT, AND THEY ARE

SUPPOSED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GET IT.

I THINK IT WAS DENISE PATE, THEY WROTE UP THE RFP, THEY

PRESENTED IT TO YOU. AND WE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

17:25:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

17:25:23 >> GOOD EVENING.

KELLA MCCASKIN.

AS A VOLUNTEER, AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER, AS A REALTOR, AND

BEING A PART OF THE CAC, I'M VERY CONCERNED WITH THE EAST

TAMPA CAC OR CRA, WHICHEVER ACRONYM.

PART OF ME SHARING A LIST OF CONCERNS, I WANT TO POINT OUT,

THE OBSERVATIONS THAT I'VE HAD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF

YEARS, DEMONSTRATED THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A DIRECTOR THAT HAD

THE BEST INTEREST FOR PEOPLE REPRESENTING IN THE DISTRICT

AND IN FACT THEY SEEMED RATHER FRUSTRATED WITH THE PEOPLE

WITH THE WILLINGNESS TO MOVE FORWARD, AND YOU CAN FACT CHECK

THAT BY LOOKING AT THE CRA UPDATES.

THERE'S A DIFFERENT DISPOSITION, A DIFFERENT DEMEANOR,

THERE'S EXCITEMENT WHEN SHARING THE PROJECT THAT THEY MOVE

FORWARD, AND THE OTHER CRAs THAT THEY OVERSEE.

BUT IT'S DIFFERENT, QUITE DIFFERENT, WHEN THEY ARE




DISCUSSING EAST TAMPA.

I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.

JUST, I WOULD SAY, ON JANUARY 20th, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA

SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED FROM MICHELLE VAN LOAN -- I KNOW

SHE'S GONE BUT IT'S RELEVANT -- A MEMO WITH A COMPARISON OF

ACCOMPLISHMENTS WITHIN THE CRA SHE REPRESENTS, A COMPARISON

WITH EAST TAMPA.

INSTEAD OF PROVIDING THAT, SHE CAME WITH AN OFFENSIVE

PowerPoint DESCRIBING WITH ADJECTIVES DESCRIBING THE

PEOPLE, NOT WHAT HE ASKED FOR.

HE WANTED A LIST OF COMPARISONS OF YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS,

WHAT YOU'VE DONE. HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS SPREAD OUT

BETWEEN THEM ALL, THE ACTIVITIES, YOUR INTEREST, ALL OF THAT

IS DIFFERENT.

WE STILL DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE, BUT WE SAW THAT AGGRESSIVE

RACIAL DISRESPECTFUL POWERPOINT ON LAST THURSDAY AT YOUR

LAST UPDATE.

AS A MEMBER, LIKE I SAID, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, WE STILL

DON'T HAVE THAT UPDATE, AND IN THE VEIN OF THE FOCUS AS THE

MAYOR SAID WITH TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, I HAVE A

FEW MORE EXAMPLES.

DURING THE LAST CRA UPDATE, CEDRIC McCRAY SHARED THE

BLOOMBERG CONSULTATIONS BEGAN.

THIS BOARD HAS ASKED OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THEY HAVE A

CONSULTANT, DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANT, FAMILIAR WITH AFFORDABLE




HOUSING AND NET DYNAMICS.

DIDN'T HAPPEN.

INSTEAD, THEY PRESENTED TO YOU, NEVER TO THIS BODY, BUT YOU

CAN ASK THEM WHEN THEY GET HERE, THIS BODY NEVER KNEW ABOUT

BLOOMBERG UNTIL LAST THURSDAY.

WHY WOULD YOU BRING A CONSULTANT IN WHEN WE HAVE ASKED YOU

MULTIPLE TIMES? COUNCILMAN GUDES ASKED MULTIPLE TIMES FOR A

DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANT.

MICHELLE SAID, URBAN PLANNER.

SHE SAID WE DON'T WANT AN URBAN PLANNER. WE WANT A

DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANT.

SO MY POINT IS, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE.

AND WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE PRESS RELEASE ON APRIL

11TH, THAT MEANS THEY HAD ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS.

THE SPEAKER SAID THEY HAD ALREADY SPOKE WITH EAST TAMPA CAC.

THAT'S HUGE.

9 MILLION, 7 MILLION GOING INTO EAST TAMPA IS HUGE FOR THE

SMALL BUSINESSES.

THEY COULD GET OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE TO THEM.

WE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT.

WE FOUND OUT AT A PRESS CONFERENCE.

THERE SEEMS TO BE, YOU KNOW, VERY OFFENSIVE WHEN WE TRY TO

BRING OUR CONCERNS, AND A FIGHT TO BE RIGHT VERSUS A FIGHT

TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

BUT THE LAST THING IS THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.




DO WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THE SAP IN EAST TAMPA?

NOBODY ELSE HAS THAT TYPE OF A PLAN.

I ASKED LEGAL TO REVIEW THE CONTRACT, REVIEW THE SAP AND

REVIEW THAT UNACCEPTABLE PLAN THAT WE RECEIVED, COMPARE IT

TO THE OTHER CACs, SEE IF THEY WOULD ACCEPT THAT.

AND THE REQUEST NEVER MADE IT TO LEGAL UNTIL I HAD TO SEND

IT MYSELF.

WE DON'T TRUST THE STAFF.

WE DIDN'T TRUST MICHELLE.

WE NEED SOMEBODY TO INTERVENE AND MAKE SURE WHAT WE ARE

ASKING FOR IS MOVING FORWARD.

THE NEXT REQUEST WILL BE WITH THE MEDIA AS TO WHY WE CAN'T

MOVE FORWARD IN EAST TAMPA.

YOU HAVE GOT TO OPEN THE DOOR FOR GENTRIFICATION ON THE CRA

STAFF.

17:29:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[ APPLAUSE ]

17:29:17 >> MIKE PALMER, EAST TAMPA.

I HAVE BEEN IN THE AREA SINCE I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD.

BASICALLY, WITH THE PARTNERSHIP, I CAME IN ABOUT TWO OR

THREE YEARS WHEN IT STARTED.

I CAN UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION THAT THE BOARDS AND

EVERYBODY ELSE HAD WITH MICHELLE VAN LOAN.

SHE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN TEARING DOWN WHAT WAS AN EXECUTIVE

BOARD, THE PARTNERSHIP WAS AN EXECUTIVE BOARD, AND SHE MADE




SURE THAT THAT BOARD WAS TURNED INTO WHAT WE HAVE NOW AT THE

CAC.

THIS IS WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA WANTED, CORPORATE TAKEOVER.

SO THEY DIDN'T WANT US TO JUST INCORPORATE IT INTO OUR

BYLAWS.

THEY WANTED US TO CHANGE OUR BYLAWS.

WHO MAKES A PRIVATE ENTITY CHANGE THEIR BYLAWS?

YOU WENT AGAINST -- NOW, YOU ARE SOME RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS,

BECAUSE YOUR ATTORNEY SAID AT THE TIME THAT YOU COULD NOT

MAKE EAST TAMPA TURN INTO A CAC.

YOU COULD NOT MAKE THEM BE A CAC.

BECAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE.

BUT YOU LET MICHELLE COME DOWN, AND JUST SHOVED IT DOWN OUR

THROATS.

SO IT HASN'T BEEN WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

THERE'S NO COMMUNITY VOICE BETWEEN MICHELLE AND ED JOHNSON.

THEY THOUGHT THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS A LITTLE TOO IGNORANT,

DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO SPEAK.

SO YOU MADE SURE THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME TO THE MEETINGS THAT

YOU DIDN'T HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

IT WASN'T LIKE THAT AT THE BEGINNING.

YOU COULD STAND UP AND SAY WHAT YOU HAD ON YOUR MIND.

THE ROOM WAS PACKED.

NOW, YOU ONLY GOT THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

EVERYBODY DON'T HAVE GOOD SPEECH OR WHAT HAVE YOU.




BUT THERE'S ONE THING ABOUT IT.

EVERYBODY PRETTY MUCH UNDERSTOOD WHAT COMMUNITY WAS ALL

ABOUT.

BUT YOU HAVE TAKEN THAT AWAY.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO THIS SAP, HOW DID THEY LET IT EXPIRE?

IF YOU GOT A CAR, YOU DON'T LET THE INSURANCE EXPIRE AND

JUST SAY, IT'S A FREE FOR ALL IS WHAT HAPPENED.

THAT'S WHY EVERYTHING IS ALL A BIG MESS, IS BECAUSE THE

STAFF EXPIRED, AND IT WAS JUST A FREE FOR ALL.

WHATEVER PROBLEM THAT PERSON WANTS, WHATEVER PROGRAM THAT

PERSON WANTS.

SO THERE'S NO CONTINUITY IN ANYTHING ANYMORE.

17:32:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES IS WITH US.

17:32:42 >> I HAVE A QUESTION --

17:32:59 >> JOE ROBINSON, TAXPAYER.

FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE, MICHELLE VAN LOAN.

MS. TRAVIS, BEEN KNOWING HERE SINCE 2008. I'M FROM INTERIOR

POLK COUNTY. YOU ALL DIDN'T KNOW THAT. KU KLUX KLAN

TERRITORY.

LET ME SAY THIS, IN MY EXPERIENCE, AN EXCELLENT CRA, NO

PROBLEM WITH ATTORNEY, NO PROBLEM WITH STAFF, REALLY NO

PROBLEM WITH MICHELLE VAN LOAN.

BUT LET ME SAY THIS.

EAST TAMPA AND EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT THE




STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN THAT RUNS THE CRA.

IT ISN'T MR. MORRIS MASSEY.

IT'S THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT RUNS AND

IMPLEMENTS THE CRA, NOT A STRATEGIC PLAN.

THAT STATUTE REQUIRES A COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, NOT A

STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.

YOU CAN THROW THAT IN THE GARBAGE CAN.

THIS COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN SAYS MAY 2004.

18 YEARS OLD.

AND YOU GOT A NEW ONE RIGHT HERE FOR EAST TAMPA?

WOW.

GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY, MAN. IT TAKES THAT LONG?

DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT UPDATING THAT.

SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT A STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.

WHOSE PLAN?

EAST TAMPA.

2009.

THAT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2009.

WHY WOULD YOU DO THE ACTION PLAN BEFORE THE YOU DO THE

COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH THE STATE STATUTE

REQUIRES YOU TO DO.

RIGHT, MR. MORRIS MASSEY?

NOW, THAT'S PROCESS.

THAT'S PROBLEMS.

I THINK MS. TRAVIS CAN SOLVE THEM IF GIVEN TIME TO DO SO.




LET'S TALK ABOUT THE WEST SIDE.

WHY IS THE WEST SIDE DIFFERENT? THE WEST SIDE IS DIFFERENT

BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS MAY 2015.

VERY CURRENT.

TO CHANGE THE ACTION PLAN, NOTICE, IT CAME AFTER THE

COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

2018.

GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT, MAN.

LET ME SAY THIS FOR THE RECORD.

WITH ONE MINUTE LEFT.

WE CONSTANTLY REVIEW WITH STAFF, AND CAC MEMBERS, ROBERT'S

RULES OF ORDER, OKAY. WE DEAL WITH THE FLORIDA SUNSHINE

ACT. WE CALL MR. MORRIS MASSEY UP ANYTIME WE GET READY.

BEFORE WE PUT ANYTHING IN FRONT OF ANYBODY, WE WANT TO HAVE

OUR SUBCOMMITTEES LOOK AT IT, AND WE WANT OUR SUBCOMMITTEES

TO GET AN ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT IT.

THERE ARE SOME LEGAL RULES AND REGULATIONS BETWEEN THE

DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT YOU HAVE.

OKAY.

EVERYTHING IS TRANSPARENT.

WE FOLLOW OUR CRP.

IF IT AIN'T IN THE CRP YOU DON'T DO IT, RIGHT, MR. MASSEY?

YOU DON'T DO IT.

WELL, YOU ALL ARE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE. THE CRP IS YOUR BIBLE

SO YOU GOT TO GO TO BIBLE STUDY AND LEARN YOUR CRP.




BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO LEARN CRP ANY PROGRAM YOU COME UP

WITH MUST BE INVOLVED IN IT.

AND WITH MY LAST FIVE SECONDS AND I HAVE TO GO MAKE A

DEPOSIT AT THE CREDIT UNION.

17:36:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON.

[ APPLAUSE ]

17:36:10 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

ALISON HEWITT, 4904 32ND STREET, THIRD GENERATION EAST TAMPA

RESIDENT.

AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST, THERE ARE TWO MAJOR

ISSUES THAT ARE A CHALLENGE FOR EAST TAMPA, IS PROCESSES.

AS YOU KNOW, EAST TAMPA IS THE LARGEST CRA IN THE STATE,

ONE.

AND TWO, WE HAVE ELECTIONS EVERY YEAR.

SO UNLESS OUR PROCESS IS PUT IN PLACE, APPLICATIONS PUT IN

PLACE, YOU HAVE NEW PEOPLE WHO COME IN EVERY YEAR.

AND SO NEW PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO SAY WE ARE GOING TO CREATE

THIS NEW SYSTEM.

AND SO YOU PUT US, THE LARGEST CRA IN THE STATE, AT A

DISADVANTAGE WHEN THERE ARE NO PROCESSES, WHEN THERE'S NO

CONTINUOUS APPLICATIONS.

SO I AM GLAD THAT PROCESS IS ON THE AGENDA, BECAUSE YOU DO A

DISSERVICE WHEN YOU HAVE VOLUNTEERS FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO

HAVE NO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BACKGROUND AND PUT IT ON THEIR

RESPONSIBILITY TO CHANGE THEIR COMMUNITY BY CREATING




PROCESSES AND THEY ARE THEY NOT FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

BUT THEY LOVE THE COMMUNITY, RAISE THEIR CHILDREN THERE,

THEY HAVE THEIR PARENTS THERE.

SO PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THE PROCESSES.

PLEASE DON'T JUST DO WHATEVER COMES FROM THE CAC BECAUSE THE

CAC WANTS THINGS TO BE DONE AND THEY WANT TO HAVE TOOLS AND

SUPPORT TO GET THINGS DONE.

THANK YOU.

17:37:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

17:37:30 >> MY NAME IS -- DUDLEY, 2705 EAST 24th AVENUE.

I WAS THE CHAIR OF THE EAST TAMPA CRA FROM OCTOBER 2018

UNTIL OCTOBER 2020.

AS I STEPPED INTO THE ROLE AS CHAIR, THERE WEREN'T MANY

PROGRAMS CURRENTLY CREATED.

AND SO THAT WAS PART OF WHAT WE WERE WORKING TO DO WAS TO

CREATE AS MANY PROGRAMS AS WE POSSIBLY COULD.

BUT THAT TOOK A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.

COMING INTO THE ROLE I SAT WITH DIRECTORS, I SAT WITH THE

MAYOR, I SAT WITH MULTIPLE PEOPLE ON HOW WE COULD FIX THE

PROCESS SO THAT WE COULD GET THINGS IMPLEMENTED SOONER, AND

I WAS TOLD BY THE MAYOR THAT IF THINGS WENT PAST A MONTH WAS

A PROBLEM BECAUSE IF WE VOTED, WE CREATED A PROCESS, WE SAID

THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED, IT SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD.

BUT THAT WAS ALWAYS A PROBLEM.

AND THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM.




WE WILL HAVE AN IDEA, VOTE ON IT, EVERYONE AGREES, AND THEN

WE GIVE IT TO STAFF OR WHOMEVER TO THEN WORK ON IMPLEMENTING

IT AND IT DOESN'T GET IMPLEMENTED.

AND SO IT TAKES SOMETIMES A YEAR IF NOT LONGER TO IMPLEMENT

WHICH HOLD UP THE PROCESS SPENDING THE DOLLARS.

YOU CAN SEE WE CONSTANTLY HAVE A HUGE ROLLOVER OF FUNDS

BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ABLE TO SPEND IT FAST ENOUGH BECAUSE

EVERYTHING REQUIRES SO MUCH TIME.

IF WE COULD SOMEHOW CREATE A BETTER PLATFORM SO ONCE THE

COMMUNITY HAS SAID THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, WE ARE ABLE TO WORK

ON IMPLEMENTATION.

THE TREE TRIMMING GRANT THAT WENT ON FOR PROBABLY A YEAR AND

A HALF BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

AND FOR SOME OF THEM, I WILL BE HONEST, I HELPED TO BEHIND

THE SCENES WRITE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HOLDUP IS.

I'LL JUST BE HONEST. I DON'T KNOW.

BUT IF WE COULD SOMEHOW FIX THAT, WE DO GET TO THE POINT OF

BEING ABLE TO SPEND THE DOLLARS THE WAY THE COMMUNITY WANTS

IN AN EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE WAY.

AND, ALSO, WHEN WE CREATE IDEAS, I KNOW THIS, AND I BROUGHT

THIS BEFORE YOU BEFORE, IS THAT WE GET A LITTLE PUSH BACK

WITH THINGS THAT WE GIVE, AND I WILL USE AS AN EXAMPLE, WITH

THE TREE LIGHTING, IT WAS MENTIONED IN OUR CRA MEETING THAT

WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE TREES POSSIBLY IN LAKES AND THINGS AND

THE PUSHBACK WE GOT WAS WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THE TREE IN




THE LAKE BECAUSE WE ARE AFRAID PEOPLE ARE GOING TO JUMP IN

THE LAKE TRYING TO TOUCH THE TREE.

SO PUSHBACK ON THINGS LIKE, WHERE IS THIS ACTUALLY COMING

FROM?

SO IF WE COULD REALLY JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THE IDEAS, WHAT

THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING WHAT THEY WANT, SO WE COULD PUT IT

ALL TOGETHER, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THE FUNDS, WE HAVE THE

PEOPLE, WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.

WE JUST DON'T NEED THE PROCESS TO BE THE ROAD BLOCK AS FAR

AS MAKING IT HAPPEN.

THANK YOU.

17:40:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WANTING TO SPEAK?

I HAVE A FEW PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

ANDRE HILL?

17:41:20 >> I PASS.

17:41:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ARE YOU SURE?

17:41:24 >> YEAH.

MY ONLY CONCERN --

17:41:27 >> COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

17:41:33 >> MY NAME IS ANDRE HILL. I WAS BORN HERE IN TAMPA IN 1952,

AND MY CONCERN, I'M SEEING A SYSTEM STILL BEEN IN PLACE FOR

70 YEARS.

AND EVEN I WAS A CONTRACTOR IN WASHINGTON, D.C. WHERE I




RENOVATED CLOSE TO 100 HOUSES, AND WE HAVE A LITTLE SMALL

GRANT TO DO A COMMUNITY, AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN SO MANY

OBSTACLES AND ROADBLOCKS TO BLOCK YOU FROM GETTING A SMALL

COMMUNITY GARDEN TOGETHER.

ARCHITECT, FINANCIAL PEOPLE, THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON THAT

WE NEED TO GET TO THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM HERE IN THE CITY

OF TAMPA.

THIS RACISM OF CONTINUING TO OPPRESS, OPPRESS BLACK ECONOMIC

GROWTH, IT'S GOT TO END.

IT'S GOT TO STOP, YOU KNOW.

AND I CAN DEAL WITH THESE LITTLE OBSTACLES BECAUSE THAT'S

WHAT I DO.

BUT THE AVERAGE PERSON, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPERS THAT DON'T

UNDERSTAND THE MECHANICS, AND THIS RACIST MECHANISM THAT

EXISTS IN OUR PROCESS SYSTEM OF FILING FOR PERMITS, YOU

KNOW, DRAWINGS AND THAT SORT OF THING, THE CITY COUNCIL

REALLY SERIOUSLY NEEDS TO LOOK AT WHAT THE COMMUNITY

TOGETHER, BECAUSE PEOPLE NOW, FROM ALL OVER -- I HAVE

DEVELOPERS ON THE WEST COAST, AND THEY ASK THE QUESTION,

WHAT'S WRONG WITH TAMPA?

HOW COME YOU CAN'T GET ANYTHING -- BLACK FOLKS CAN'T GET

ANYTHING DONE THERE?

AND SO IT'S SYSTEMIC, AND IT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH.

SO I MADE A CALL AND ALMOST HAD TO THREATEN LEGAL ACTION TO

GET THINGS MOVING, AND THEN SOMETHING MYSTERIOUSLY, AFTER I




DID THAT, THEN SOME OF THE PERMITTING PROCESSES OPENED UP.

BUT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

SO THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.

GET IT -- PUT TOGETHER A REVIEW COMMITTEE.

LET GET THIS RACISM OUT BECAUSE TAMPA, THIS IS MY HOME, THIS

IS A BEAUTIFUL CITY, AND I SEE SOME UGLY HEADS RISING UP,

DEVELOPERS, THAT INTEND TO CORRUPT AND PROHIBITED THE

PEOPLE, AND ESPECIALLY NATIVES OF TAMPA FROM ENJOYING THE

PROSPERITY OF THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

17:43:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. HILL.

I ALSO SEE MS. CONNIE BURTON'S NAME ON THE LIST.

DO YOU SEE HER OUTSIDE?

OH, I'M SORRY.

YOU HAVE YOUR NAME DOWN HERE.

I'M SORRY, MS. BURTON, I DIDN'T SEE YOU BACK THERE.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT?

17:44:10 >>THE CLERK:
THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

17:44:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGAIN, I AM GOING TO HAND THE GAVEL TO

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WE TABLED THE MOTION.

17:44:18 >>BILL CARLSON:
DO WE NEED THE MOTION AGAIN OR JUST

UNTABLE?

17:44:23 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO RESTATE THE




MOTION AND THEN YOU CAN DISCUSS IT AND VOTE ON IT.

17:44:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU WERE NOT HERE. I

MADE A STATEMENT THAT MS. VAN LOAN HAS GIVEN HER TWO-WEEK

NOTICE, AND THE INTERIM, SINCE I HAVE BEEN FAMILIAR WITH MS.

NICOLE TRAVIS, I MADE THE MOTION THAT MS. NICOLE TRAVIS STEP

IN AS INTERIM CRA DIRECTOR UNTIL WHICH TIME THE CONTRACT IS

COMPLETED.

17:44:59 >>BILL CARLSON:
WHO WAS THE SECOND?

17:45:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

17:45:02 >>BILL CARLSON:
ANY DISCUSSION?

ANY DISCUSSION?

17:45:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THIS RESIGNATION JUST COME ABOUT TODAY?

17:45:17 >> IT WAS HANDED TO ME ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF AGO.

17:45:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

DO WE DO ROLL CALL?

ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

17:45:30 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

17:45:32 >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.

17:45:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

17:45:36 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

17:45:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

17:45:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

17:45:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

17:45:42 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.

17:45:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.




MR. MASSEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO AGAIN REVIEW HOW THIS PART OF

THE MEETING IS GOING TO BE HELD?

17:45:58 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
BE GLAD TO.

CRA STAFF OR THE CHAIR WILL INTRODUCE EACH ITEM ON THE

AGENDA.

THE MEMBERS OF THE CAC WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CRA

BOARD WILL COME TO THE PODIUM AND ADDRESS YOU ALL ON ISSUES

THEY HAVE REGARDING THAT SPECIFIC ITEM.

AT THAT TIME, MEMBERS OF THE CRA CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF THE

MEMBERS OF THE CAC.

STAFF IS HERE TO ANY QUESTIONS.

STAFF WILL ALSO BE ALLOWED TO RESPOND.

THIS MEETING IS MORE OF A LISTENING SESSION THAN ANYTHING

ELSE, BUT IF THERE ARE MOTIONS TO BE MADE I WOULD RECOMMEND

THAT THEY WAIT TILL THE END OF THE MEETING TO MAKE THE

MOTIONS, THAT THOSE MOTIONS BE MADE BY CRA BOARD.

THIS MEETING IS REALLY SET UP FOR YOU ALL TO HEAR THE

CONCERNS OF THE CAC.

17:46:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA -- WE HAD SUBSECTIONS WITHIN

THAT FIRST ITEM -- IS THE EAST TAMPA STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.

WE HAVE THE CAC MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE.

IF ANY OF THE CAC MEMBERS WISH TO GIVE US THEIR CONCERNS OR

HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR STAFF, PLEASE APPROACH THE

PODIUM.




MS. TATE.

17:47:17 >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

I AM FRAN TATE, CHAIR OF THE EAST TAMPA CAC OF EAST TAMPA

CRA.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS, THIS EVENING.

IT IS MUCH NEEDED.

COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE WANT TO SAY TO YOU, WE ARE VERY, VERY

SORRY FOR THE LOSS OF YOUR LEGISLATIVE AIDE.

PLEASE KNOW THAT WE ARE WITH YOU IN PRAYER AS WELL AS WITH

THE FAMILY OF YOUR LEGISLATIVE AIDE.

I'M EXHAUSTED.

I'M EXHAUSTED.

BUT BECAUSE I LOVE MY COMMUNITY.

AND OUR COMMUNITY, MY COMMUNITY, I WANT TO SERVE JUST AS

WELL AS EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS ROOM.

WE KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT ARCHITECTS.

WE KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT PLANNERS.

WE ARE NOT REDEVELOPMENT OFFICIALS.

BUT WE ARE A GROUP OF LOVING PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SEE EAST

TAMPA MOVE FORWARD.

I'M IN THE MEDICAL FIELD.

I GOT A PASTOR.

I HAVE AN ATTORNEY.

I HAVE RETIREES THAT SIT ON MY BOARD.

BUT THAT SHOULD NOT MAKE ANYTHING THAT WE DECIDE IN OUR




COMMUNITY UNIMPORTANT AND OVERLOOKED.

THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.

WE NEED THE NECESSARY TOOLS.

WE HAVE TOOLS.

WE NEED STAFF.

THAT'S THE MAJOR ISSUE.

I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE BUT I THANK GOD MRS. VAN LOAN

DECIDED TO MOVE ON BECAUSE SHE HAS OFFENDED PERSONALLY, AND

IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME A WHILE TO GET OVER THAT.

FOR WHAT SHE DID TO ME.

BUT I ASK YOU ALL TO CONTINUE PRAY FOR ME.

I AM GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.

THE EAST TAMPA CRA COMMUNITY WILL NO LONGER BE UNDERSERVED

AND IGNORED.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS OR ACTIVITIES IN THE

EAST TAMPA CRA WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

GENTRIFICATION IS HAPPENING.

THAT'S REAL.

IT'S GOING ON, ALL OVER THE WORLD -- ALL OVER THE UNITED

STATES.

IT IS VERY URGENT THAT WE HAVE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED IN

EAST TAMPA TO SUPPORT EAST TAMPA.

WE ARE VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT A STREAKS ACTION PLAN.

AND WHAT I DID, COMING ON AS A BOARD MEMBER AND BEING

ELECTED AS THE CHAIR, I CHOSE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT




ARE VERY WELL VERSED IN THE EIGHT STANDING COMMITTEES THAT

WE HAVE.

THESE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

PLEASE DON'T IGNORE THEM.

EXTENSIVE DELAY OF IMPLEMENTATION OF OWNER OCCUPIED

PROGRAMS.

THAT'S BEEN, WELL, THE TIME I GOT HERE, A YEAR, TWO YEARS,

WHERE IS THAT PROGRAM?

WHERE IS THE RFP SO WE CAN IMPLEMENT IT?

WE WANT THAT.

WE DESERVE IT.

WE ARE DEMANDING IT.

INABILITY OF STAFF TO ENSURE THAT LEADING AGENDAS AND

BACKGROUND DOCUMENTS ARE PROVIDED TO CAC MEMBERS, WITHIN

SEVEN DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

IT IS THE TRUTH.

MR. McCRAY, WHEN WE JUST STARTED GETTING THEM, WE HAVE NO

REASON TO LIE.

WE ARE VERY SINCERE.

WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO THRIVE.

WE NEED THOSE DOCUMENTS.

WITHIN SEVEN DAYS SO WE CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM.

THERE'S A LACK OF TRUST WITH STAFF.

EXAMPLE, I PERSONALLY AM DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE OF THE




MISREPRESENTATION OF THE CRA BOARD, OF THE MARCH 1st,

2022 CAC DISCUSSION OF THE DRAFT STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.

THE CAC EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT THE CURRENT DRAFT SAP IS NOT

AN UPDATE OF THE APPROVED 2009 SAP.

THAT WAS NOT RELATED TO THE CRA AS WE ASKED STAFF TO DO.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THESE TOPICS, TRUST BETWEEN THE

COMMUNITY, THE CAC, AND STAFF IS STRAINED, TO NONEXISTENT.

WE HOPE YOU WILL ASSIST WITH THE ADDRESSING OF THESE ISSUES.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

AS I STATED, I HAVE SEVEN COMMITTEE CHAIRS WHO CAN EXPOUND

MORE ON THE AGENDA TODAY.

AND I ASK YOU TO PLEASE ALLOW THEM TO DO SO.

17:52:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU SPECIFICALLY

WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN?

17:52:17 >> I AM GOING TO ALLOW ALISON HEWITT.

SHE IS VERY WELL VERSED.

I WANT THE -- I WANT AN UPDATE TO THE 2009 STRATEGIC ACTION

PLAN, NOT A RE-CREATED DRAFT.

I KNOW MR. ROBINSON, BUT WE ARE EAST TAMPA.

AND WE PAID FOR A STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN UPDATE.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONTRACT, IT WASN'T FOLLOWED.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS?

YES, SIR?

17:52:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

17:53:01 >>BILL CARLSON:
MS. TATE, WE HAVE THE LAST THREE CHAIRS IN




THE ROOM, AND I THINK EACH OF YOU STARTED WITH HOPES YOU

COULD MOVE THINGS FORWARD AND TRY TO SPEND SOME OF THIS

MONEY, I THINK THERE WAS LIKE $3 MILLION IN THE ACCOUNT, AND

I THINK THERE'S STILL A MILLION DOLLARS OR SOMETHING IN AN

AREA WHERE WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO MAKE CHANGES.

BUT ALL THREE OF YOU HAVE HAD SIMILAR COMPLAINTS.

MS. GOODLEY STOOD OUT, MRS. BURTON IS IN THE ROOM.

COULD YOU TELL US, SO IF YOU WERE SITTING WHERE WE ARE RIGHT

NOW, WHAT ARE TWO OR THREE OR FOUR THINGS THAT YOU WOULD

CHANGE RIGHT AWAY?

WHAT ARE SOME ACTION STEPS THAT WE CAN TAKE TO IMPROVE THE

SITUATION?

17:53:37 >> I WOULD WANT YOU TO LOCATE THAT RFP FOR HOUSING REHAB.

WE HAVE SENIORS IN THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE VETERANS, WE HAVE

HOMES THAT HAVE HOLES IN THE ROOF, HOLES IN THE FLOOR.

COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE THANK YOU FOR -- WE HAVE THE RFP.

PLEASE, WE NEED THAT SO THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT THE REHABBING

OF THESE HOMES.

YOU SAID THREE?

17:54:07 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, PLEASE.

17:54:08 >> FRAN TATE:
OKAY.

THAT'S ONE.

17:54:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. GOODLEY, MR. MASSEY, THIS WAS SUPPOSED

TO BE FOR CAC AND CRA BOARD MEMBERS.

17:54:21 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
ALL RIGHT.




17:54:24 >>BILL CARLSON:
SHE'S A FORMER CHAIR.

SO MOTION TO WAIVE THE RULES FOR THE FORMER CHAIR.

17:54:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

17:54:33 >> THANK YOU.

FOR THE OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB, WE VOTED, WHILE I WAS CHAIR,

TO REMOVE THE PROGRAM FROM THE CITY, BECAUSE THE PROGRAM HAD

BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR TWO YEARS, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE

PERSON UTILIZING -- WE HAD A HALF MILLION DOLLARS SET ASIDE

FOR IT.

AND ONCE WE REALIZED THAT IT WASN'T BEING UTILIZED, WE

DECIDED TO TRY TO FIND A NONPROFIT THAT COULD STEP IN AND

TAKE THE FUNDS AND START DOING THE REHAB.

WE ALL VOTED, WE AGREED, WE EACH SAID WE NEED TO LOOK FOR A

NONPROFIT, I BELIEVE TO THE LAST MEETING THAT WOULD HAVE

BEEN SEPTEMBER 2020, WHO WENT OVER WHAT THEY WOULD DO WITH

THE FUNDS, HOW THEY COULD IMPLEMENT IT AND WHAT WOULD BE

THEIR PLAN.

THEN BEFORE WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE, WE WERE ALL TOLD

TO HOLD OFF ON THAT VOTE OF WHETHER WE WANTED TO GO WITH

THAT ONE OF THE AND THEN IN OCTOBER 2020 I WAS NO LONGER

CHAIR, AND WHEN OTHER CAC MEMBERS ASKED ABOUT WHAT WE HAD

ALREADY VOTED ON AND HOW WE COULD MOVE FORWARD, WE WERE TOLD

THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE NEVER PROCEEDED WITH IT.

AND MIGHT I ADD, TOWARDS THE END, ONCE WE DECIDED WE WANTED




TO MOVE THE FUNDS OR FIND A NONPROFIT TO DO IT, THAT'S WITH

HE WE CAME BACK AND HEARD FROM THE CITY THAT THERE WERE FOUR

HOMES THAT WERE BEING REHABBED WITH OUR DOLLARS.

AND WHEN I WENT BACK AND ASKED WHAT THOSE FOUR HOMES WERE

AND WE CROSS REFERENCED IT, THEY WERE NOT USING OUR FUNDS.

THAT WAS USING THE CITY'S OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB AND THEY WERE

NOT UTILIZING ANY OF OUR FUNDS FOR THAT.

17:56:19 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.

MS. TATE, OFF COUPLE OTHER IDEAS?

17:56:25 >> FRAN TATE:
THE REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM FOR PROPERTY

OWNERS, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT IMPLEMENTED.

THERE'S JUST SO MUCH, SO MUCH MORE THAT I COULD JUST BOUNCE

OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN EAST TAMPA.

SIDEWALKS.

17:56:49 >>BILL CARLSON:
WHY DO YOU ALL THINK THAT --

17:56:56 >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

17:56:59 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.

I WAS JUST FOLLOWING UP.

WHY DO YOU THINK THAT WE CAN'T GET ANYTHING TO MOVE FORWARD?

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BLOCK?

17:57:05 >> WELL, IT'S OBVIOUS WE CAN'T GET ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD

BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING MOVING FORWARD.

THREE CHAIRS IN FOUR YEARS, IT'S NOT MOVING --

17:57:14 >>BILL CARLSON:
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?

17:57:16 >> I DON'T SIT UP THERE.




I DON'T SIT IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

17:57:19 >> I HAVE MY --

17:57:22 >> GO AHEAD.

17:57:23 >> BECAUSE WHEN I CAME ON, AS CHAIR, WE WERE SPENDING MONEY

WHERE I BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPENDING IT.

SO WE WERE PAVING ROADS.

WE WERE DOING SIDEWALKS.

WE WERE DOING ALL THE THINGS THAT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THE

CITY PAYS FOR.

BUT IF IT NEVER GOES TO THE CITY BUDGET, AND BECAUSE IF IT'S

ON THE CITY BUDGET, AT LEAST IN FIVE YEARS, THE CAC CAN'T

PAY FOR IT.

THAT'S THE STATUTE.

SO IF IT NEVER GOES TO THE CITY BUDGET, WE CAN ALWAYS PAY

FOR IT.

SO WHEN I CAME UP, WE STARTED PULLING BACK THE FUNDS FROM

DOING THAT.

WE PAVED THE LAST ROAD.

THAT'S THE CITY'S JOB.

WE ARE NOT PUTTING SIDEWALKS IN.

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SUPPLEMENT, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO ADD THINGS

TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT PREVIOUSLY, ALL WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS WHAT THE CITY

SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I THINK ONCE --




[ APPLAUSE ]

THAT'S WHERE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO DO STARTED TO

SLOW DOWN TREMENDOUSLY.

17:58:29 >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS IS MY CONCERN, MR. CHAIR.

I'LL SAY THIS AND I'LL BE QUIET.

THIS IS MY CONCERN WITH CONTINUING TO OUTSOURCE THE CITY, AS

LONG AS IT'S PART OF THE T-3 PROGRAM WE ARE GOING TO GET

LOTS OF MOVEMENT.

IF IT'S UP TO THE CRA BOARD THE CITY STAFF IS GOING TO DO

NOTHING TO IMPLEMENT IT AND THIS IS ACROSS THE BOARD.

IT'S FRUSTRATING.

17:58:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN, SPEAK YOUR MIND.

COUNCILMAN GUDES.

17:58:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I'M GLAD I HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THIS

MEETING.

IT'S LONG OVERDUE.

THE COMMUNITY IS ANGRY.

I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MS. TRAVIS YESTERDAY, AND BOTH

CANDID WITH ONE ANOTHER.

BUT THERE IS NOTHING REALLY MOVING, WHAT I CALL IN A WHILE,

AS YOU HEARD ME SAY.

WE HAVE GOT SOME SMALL LITTLE LEADS THAT HAVE BEEN BRUSHED

ON BUT NOTHING THAT'S SIGNIFICANT WILL MAKE THE COMMUNITY

SAY, WOW, WE ARE MOVING.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT MAKING SURE THAT WE FIND THOSE WOWS




SO PEOPLE CAN SAY, WE FOLLOWED THE PROCESS AND WE ARE NOT AT

THE BOTTOM BUT WE ELEVATED TO THE TOP.

THAT'S BEEN THE PROBLEM FOR THE ADMINISTRATIONS, UNTIL WHEN

I GET ANGRY OR SAY MAD, PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION TO US AND

LISTEN TO US.

AND THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE.

IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE.

BUT I'M HOPING THAT MS. TRAVIS HAS THE EXPERIENCE AND DOES

SOME THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITIES WHERE SHE'S COMFORTABLE BEING

ABLE TO BRING SOME OF THAT EXPERIENCE HERE TO HELP MR.

McCRAY TO BUILD WHAT WE NEED BUILT.

WE HAVE MONEY TO BUILD.

WE HAVE MONEY TO DO REAL, REAL PROBLEMS, BECAUSE LIKE I TOLD

HER, I THINK THE PROCESS, NOT BECAUSE THE CITY HAS WHAT THEY

WANT TO GET DONE, WHAT THEIR OBJECTIVES ARE, VERSUS WHAT THE

CAC OR EAST TAMPA WANTS, AND SO WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL THEY

ARE READY TO WORK WITH US.

LIKE I TOLD MS. TRAVIS, WE CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A TEAM FOCUSED STRICTLY ON EAST TAMPA TO

MAKE IT MOVE.

AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A TEAM WITHIN THE CITY.

THAT WAY, THOSE PROJECTS DO GET DONE, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT

FOR THE RFP TO WAIT SO LONG, AND WE HAVE SITTING ON THE

SHELF FOREVER TO GET DONE.

THIS CITY IS A BIG PLACE.




IT'S GETTING BIGGER EVERY DAY.

WE CANNOT CONTINUE AS CAC IN EAST TAMPA TO ALWAYS BE THE

BACK OF THE LINE.

WE NEED TO BE PUT TO THE FRONT OF THE LINES FOR THOSE OTHER

PROJECTS TO GET MOVING.

THE PERSON ON THE CAC OF EAST TAMPA, I EXPERIENCED THOSE

THINGS, WHY WE CAN'T DO IT, IT'S ALWAYS, WELL, WE CAN'T DO

IT BECAUSE OF THIS REASON, BUT WE'LL FIND A WAY TO DO OTHER

PROJECTS IN THE CITY, A LOOPHOLE TO DO THINGS.

SO WE HAVE TO FIND THOSE LOOPHOLES IN EAST TAMPA TO DO THE

SAME THING WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE CITY.

SO THAT'S MY OBSERVATION OVER THE YEARS AS A PERSON WHO SAT

ON THAT BOARD.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION.

SO HOPEFULLY MS. TRAVIS AND THE BOARD HEARS THE CONCERNS OF

THE BOARD, WE CAN TAKE THESE THINGS TO THE MAYOR AND GET

THINGS MOVING.

18:01:36 >> MAY I SAY ONE THING?

18:01:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MS. GOODLEY.

18:01:41 >> ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE WERE BEING SPOON FED THE BUDGET.

SO THE BUDGET WAS PREPARED AND BROUGHT TO US LITERALLY THE

DAY BEFORE OUR MEETING AND SAID WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS.

SO THE VERY FIRST TIME WE KNEW NO BETTER.

WE ARE LIKE, OKAY, WE TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT.

WE VOTE.




AFTER I WENT TO THE CRA CONFERENCES AND I STARTED TO OTHER

PEOPLE AND THEY ARE LIKE, WHAT?

YOU DIDN'T WRITE YOUR OWN BUDGET?

SO I CAME BACK AND SAID, NO, WE ARE WRITING ON OUR BUDGET.

WE ARE COMING UP WITH WHERE WE WANT OUR DOLLARS SPENT.

THAT'S HOW CLEAR ALL THAT OUT, WE'LL TELL YOU WHERE WE WANT

TO PUT MONEY.

SO UP UNTIL THAT POINT, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE COULD NOT SAY

WE ARE NOT TAKING THIS ROAD, NOT SAY THAT WE ARE NOT PUTTING

SIDEWALKS IN, BUT WE WANT TO BEAUTIFY THE OTHER THINGS,

BECAUSE NO ONE IN OUR TRAINING, NO ONE EVER TOLD US THAT.

EVER.

I HAD TO TRAVEL TO OTHER CRA TRAINING BEFORE I HEARD THAT WE

CREATED OUR BUDGET.

SO THAT'S WHERE I LEARNED THE POWER THAT WE HAD AS A CAC WAS

ABLE TO START IMPLEMENTING THAT AND GETTING THOSE PROGRAMS

CREATED, BECAUSE JUST THE ONE I LEARNED, IT WHATS NOT EVERY

GIVEN TO US.

MISS CONNIE.

18:02:55 >> CONNIE BURTON.

I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START BUT I WILL START FROM

THIS POINT.

I ASKED MY GRANDDAUGHTER -- THE ONLY WAY SHE LOOK AT THE

COMMUNITY, WHAT DOES SHE SEE?

WHO REPRESENT ALL THE GROUPS IN OUR COMMUNITY?




ALL THE POTS, EVERYWHERE.

AND SAY WHAT HAS BEEN THE REASONS FOR THIS?

IS BASED ON SOMETHING THAT'S RACISM.

YET EVERY THURSDAY, AND I SEE HOW THAT CRA PEOPLE ARE

BROUGHT UP HERE, AND HOW THEY ARE PRESENTED, AND THEY WANT

TO GIVE $25 MILLION TO THE STRAZ CENTER?

OH, CULTURAL ENRICHMENT.

NOW THE TROLLEY, A MILLION DOLLARS, AND THEY ARE ABLE TO DO

WHATEVER THEY WANT.

COME TO OUR COMMUNITY, INTO OUR CRA MEETINGS, IT'S ALL "NO."

SO FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, WHEN THE STRATEGIC PLAN WAS

FIRST PRESENTED, AND I WAS A MEMBER IN THE AUDIENCE, I SAID

NO BECAUSE THE PRESENTER DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH RESPECT AND

DIGNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO DO THEIR PRESENTATION PUBLICLY.

THEY DID IT OVER A CELL PHONE.

AND MICHELLE THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY.

AND THEN WHEN I LOOKED AT THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN AND

LOOKED NO MORE LIKE A COLORING BOOK TO ME, I REFUSED TO PAY

THEM ONE PENNY.

THEY DO NOT DESERVE THE 300 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR

DUPLICATION AND REWRITING THE SAME PROGRAM OVER.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.

AND YOU SAID, WHAT IS THE ROOT CAUSE?

YOU KNOW WHAT THE ROOT CAUSE IS.

IT'S DEEP SEEDED RACISM.




IT IS A CITY GOVERNMENT THAT IS DETERMINED LIKE HELL TO

TREAT US AS IF WE ARE SELF-TAUGHT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE YEAR TO DO THE JOB OR NOT

BUT IT'S NOT FROM HER, IT'S GOING TO BE THE MAYOR.

IF THE MAYOR DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN IN EAST TAMPA, IT'S NOT

GOING TO HAPPEN UNTIL OUR COMMUNITY IS MATURE ENOUGH TO SAY,

WE WANT A POLITICAL JUDGMENT AGAINST EVERYBODY UP THERE THAT

HAVE ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN THE LAST 20 YEARS.

[ APPLAUSE ]

THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.

AND SO THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS MEANINGLESS AT THIS POINT.

YOU KNOW HOW I KNOW THAT?

THE DISCUSSION FROM THE DAIS, OH, LET'S LISTEN TO BLOOMBERG.

WHAT?

WHAT DID WE PAY $360,000 FOR?

SO WE ARE JUST WALKING IN CIRCLES IN THE BIGGEST THING AND I

MATURE ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND NOW, IS PITTING US AGAINST

EACH OTHER.

PITTING US AGAINST EACH OTHER.

AND SO WHILE WE WANT TO CREATE WEALTH FOR OUR COMMUNITY,

EVEN WITH THE TREE TRIMMING GRANT, WE SAW THE SAME PEOPLE,

WANTING THEM TO GET ALL THE WORK. WE SIMPLY SAID THE PEOPLE

IN OUR COMMUNITY CAN CUT A TREE.

WE WAS DOING THAT WORK.

SO WE HAD TO GO BACK AND START MAKING DEMANDS FOR ECONOMIC




DEVELOPMENT.

TO THE STAFF.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE PAYING THEM FOR.

I DON'T.

WE PAY OUT SALARY FOR FIVE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL, AND WE ARE

BEING ASKED TO COME UP WITH A PLAN.

AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THE PLAN, AND THE ARCHITECT, AND WANT

YOU TO BUILD ME A FOUR BED, THREE-BEDROOM HOUSE.

I DON'T BLAME THE BLUEPRINT BUT WE ARE PAYING THEM SALARIES.

THEY ARE SUPPOSED, IN MY OPINION, COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT

PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN PLACE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO RE-CREATE THE

WHEEL.

AND WE CAN THEN MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENT, BUT EVERY MEETING IS A

STONE-FACED MEETING AND YOU ALL NEED TO SOLVE IT BY

YOURSELF.

I WOULD RATHER SEE THIS CRA DISAPPEAR IF WE CANNOT GET IT

RIGHT BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN 20 YEARS IN THE MAKING AND WE

DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO --

[ APPLAUSE ]

WE DON'T.

AND SO WHAT I WANT TO SEE MOVING FORWARD IS THE ABILITY TO

CREATE JOBS AND OPPORTUNITY FROM EVERY PROPOSAL THAT GOES

OUT. SOMEBODY IN OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT IF I GO IN WEST TAMPA AND

SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SEEING, PEOPLE ARE ABLE




TO HAVE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, CREATING GENERATIONAL

WEALTH FOR THAT FAMILY TO CONTINUE.

WE DON'T DO THAT.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.

WE GOT PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS SADDLED WITH DEFERRED

PAYMENT LOANS FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS.

THAT WAS THE BEST PROGRAM THE CITY COULD OFFER OUR PEOPLE

FOR FIRST-TIME HOME ASSISTANCE.

IT'S SIMPLE.

AND I AM HOPEFUL, BECAUSE I WILL BE BACK DOWN HERE THURSDAY,

THAT YOU HAVE A RESOLUTION SAYING THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD -- THE

ONLY PERSON TO GET A SMALL EXCUSE IS THE NEW MEMBER UP

THERE, BUT THE REST OF YOU ALL SAID THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD

DISCRIMINATION, AND WHAT RACISM HAS DONE TO THE AFRICAN

COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT WAS IN THE PAST OR THE FUTURE.

WHETHER YOU UNDERSTAND THAT AND YOU VOTED ON IT IN 2020, NO

WONDER OPPORTUNITY -- IT'S ALMOST SUNSET.

SO I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE IS HERE.

WE ARE COMING DOWN HERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEE THINGS DONE.

ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT I WANT TO SEE DONE IS THAT THE

VOICES ARE RESPECTED.

THIS IS THE CHAIR.

SHE SHOULD BE EXPECTED AS SUCH.

AND THE COMMUNITY VOICES SHOULD BE HEARD.

AND THE VERY MINIMUM THINGS THAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR, NUMBER




ONE, TOP PRIORITY, WE WANT DECENCY IN HOUSING, WE WANT TO

SEE A COMPLETE RENOVATION OF HOUSES IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE

WANT TO END THE GENTRIFICATION OF OUR PEOPLE.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHO LIVES CLOSE TO YOU, MAYBE YOU DON'T

NEED TO BE THERE, BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP PEOPLE

INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY SO WE CAN ALL PROSPER.

THANK YOU.

18:09:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MS. BURTON.

18:09:27 >>BILL CARLSON:
MS. BURTON, COULD YOU COME BACK?

MS. TATE AND MS. GOODLEY TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT THEIR

INTERFACE WITH STAFF.

WHEN YOU WERE CHAIR A COUPLE TIMES, YOU AND I SPOKE, AND YOU

WERE DISAPPOINTED IN THE WAY THE MEETINGS WERE BEING HANDLED

AND THE WAY STAFF IS INTERACTING WITH YOU.

AT SOME POINT, I CALLED A CONFERENCE CALL WITH ALL THE STAFF

RELATED TO EAST TAMPA, AND YOU WERE ON THE PHONE AND WE HAD

A CONVERSATION.

JUST FOR THE SAKE OF MY COLLEAGUES, COULD YOU JUST BRIEFLY

TELL THEM WHAT YOU WERE EXPERIENCING?

AND NOW WE HAVE A CHANCE TO HIRE STAFF OR OUTSOURCE TO

ANOTHER ENTITY OTHER THAN THE CITY.

WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND WE DO SO THAT WE CAN GET MOVEMENT?

HOW ISSUES WOULD YOU FACE AND HOW WOULD YOU SUGGEST GOING

FORWARD?

18:10:17 >> MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THIS STAFF, AS LONG AS IT HAS




TO REPORT TO THE MAYOR, AS NICE AS PEOPLE AS THEY ARE,

CANNOT ANSWER DIRECTLY TO YOU AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT

THIS COMMUNITY IS MAKING.

THEY CAN'T DO IT.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WE LIKE THEM OR NOT.

BUT FOR 17 YEARS YOU HAD ED JOHNSON, AND NOTHING WE SAID

ABOUT ED JOHNSON MATTERED BECAUSE HE HAD A STELLAR

EVALUATION.

SO NUMBER ONE, THIS STAFF -- THE BOARD NEEDS TO BE

COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HIRE OUR OWN DEVELOPERS, OUR OWN URBAN

PLANNERS, OUR OWN HOUSING DEPARTMENT.

NOW WE ARE PAYING THEIR SALARY, BUT WE CAN'T MAKE A

DETERMINATION IF THEY ARE DOING A GOOD JOB.

BUT IT'S COMING OUT OF THE COMMUNITY'S FUNDING.

SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

I CAN'T SEE GETTING PAST THAT.

WE NEED AN INDEPENDENT BODY OF PEOPLE TO ANSWER TO YOU, NOT

TO THE MAYOR.

18:11:22 >> IF I COULD PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU ASKED.

ONCE I STARTED ASKING, SPEAKING WITH DIRECTORS THROUGHOUT

THE CITY TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE PROCESS AND WHAT WE COULD

DO, I WAS IMMEDIATELY CONFRONTED AND TOLD THAT I WAS NOT

ABLE TO SPEAK TO ANY DIRECTOR OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, IT ALL

HAD TO GO THROUGH THE CRA MANAGER.




AND I DIDN'T FOLLOW IT BECAUSE I HAD COMPLETED MAYOR'S

NEIGHBORHOOD UNIVERSITY, AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS WE WERE

ABLE TO TALK TO EVERY DIRECTOR THERE.

SO THROUGH THAT TIME, I MADE CERTAIN I CREATED CONTACTS

WHERE I COULD REACH BACK OUT, BUT IF WE ARE BEING TOLD THAT

WE CAN'T SPEAK TO THE DIRECTORS, WE CAN'T SPEAK TO THE

PEOPLE WHO CAN HELP IMPLEMENT PROGRAMS FOR US, HOW CAN WE

GET THINGS DONE IF IT'S NOT HAPPENING THROUGH THE CHANNELS

OF THE CRA?

SO I CIRCUMVENTED ALL OF THAT AND I JUST WENT TO THE

DIRECTORS, AND I SAT DOWN WITH THEM, AND WE WROTE PROGRAMS.

SO THE PROGRAMS THAT WERE ABLE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED UNDER ME,

ALMOST ALL OF THEM I WROTE.

BUT I WROTE AND GAVE IT TO THEM AND SAID, YOU SAY IT'S YOUR

WORK.

AND THEY SAID IT WAS THEIRS, AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT

IMPLEMENTED.

IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORK THAT WAY.

YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO CREATE LOOPHOLES

JUST TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.

AND THE ONLY REASON I AM SPEAKING OF IT NOW IS BECAUSE THEY

ARE ALREADY IN PLACE, BECAUSE IF THEY WEREN'T I WOULDN'T SAY

ANYTHING BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET PROGRAMS DONE.

BUT THAT'S ALL THE STUFF WE HAD TO DO JUST TO GET SOMETHING

DONE IN OUR CRA.




18:12:55 >> AND I HEARD MICHELLE WHEN SHE SAID EVERYTHING NEEDS TO

COME FROM THE CAC BOARD, AND FILTERS OUT TO THE STANDING

COMMITTEES, BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE YOUR FIREPOWER IS. IF YOUR

FIREPOWER IS IN THE STANDING COMMITTEE, THERE'S NOTHING

WRONG WITH THEM COMING TO THE CAC BOARD AND SAYING, LOOK, I

KNOW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, LOOK, I KNOW URBAN PLANNING,

LOOK, I KNOW LAND USE.

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH LISTENING TO THEM AND TAKING

THEIR ADVICE.

THEY LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

THEY ARE NOT OUTSIDERS.

THEY KNOW WHAT THEY SEE.

THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINED AND WENT TO SCHOOL FOR THAT.

THAT'S THEIR EXPERTISE.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR BOARD, AS I STATED, WE HAVE JUST

COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON IT.

HOW WOULD ANYTHING MOVE -- WE HAVE TO MAKE ALL THE

SUGGESTIONS, WHEN THEY ALREADY KNOW.

THAT'S HARD.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK IN EAST TAMPA.

MAYBE IT CAN WORK IN WEST TAMPA OR CHANNELSIDE OR DOWNTOWN.

BUT IN EAST TAMPA, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

I PLACE THEM IN MY STANDING COMMITTEES.

AND I TRUST THEM.




18:14:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.

18:14:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IT'S LIKE I SAID AT THE LAST CRA BOARD

MEETING, EVERY CRA OPERATES A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

AND, UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE OUR MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.

WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS -- MAY NOT HAVE THOSE SPECIAL SKILLS BUT

THEY WANT TO VOLUNTEER BECAUSE THEY WANT TO FIX THEIR

COMMUNITY.

THEY WANT THOSE WOWS, TOO.

EVEN THE CHANNELSIDE, DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP, CRAs, THEY

HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LARGE EXPERTISE OF ENVIRONMENTAL AND

CONSTRUCTION, WHATEVER.

SO THEY CAN SIT ON THOSE BOARDS AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT THEIR

SUBCOMMITTEES BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WITH EXPERTISE ON THAT

PARTICULAR BOARD.

EAST TAMPA IS A DIFFERENT FUNCTIONING BOARD.

JUST LIKE WEST TAMPA.

WEST TAMPA, I KNOW THE FOLKS ON THE WEST TAMPA BOARD.

MR. ROBINSON, HE HAS A SPECIALTY, HE KNOWS TO KNOW.

THE DEVELOPERS, THEY HAVE THAT BODY OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE THAT

SKILL, WHO HAVE DONE THAT KIND OF WORK, AND KNOW IF SOMEBODY

SAYS -- SOMETIMES IN EAST TAMPA, WE HAVE -- WE ARE TRUST --

WE TRUST THEM.

WE GIVE SECOND CHANCES, THIRD CHANCES.

WE FORGIVE THEM, GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY.

18:15:25 >> RIGHT, RIGHT.




18:15:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO I -- I FEEL THEIR PAIN.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND.

SO AND WE TALK ABOUT PROCESS.

AND I'M HOPING THAT MS. TRAVIS, YOU WILL HELP BUILD A GOOD

PROCESS BUT TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE

THERE AND SEE HOW THEIR PROCESS WILL WORK TO GET TO WHERE

NEED TO BE VERSUS WHERE YBOR OR SOMEBODY ELSE HAS A

DIFFERENT PROCESS.

BUT I THINK MS. TRAVIS, YOU SEE THE CHALLENGES.

YOU HAVE BEEN HERE.

YOU HAVE HEARD.

YOU HAVE TALKED TO PEOPLE.

WHERE YOU CAME FROM, THEY HAD ISSUES AS WELL.

[NO ENCODER] [NO ENCODER]

TO GO TO GET THEIR SOUL SO WE CAN GET OUR WOWS.

THANK YOU.

18:16:36 >> IF I CAN SHARE ONE THING WITH YOU.

ONE OF THE WOWS WE WAS TRYING TO GET WAS THE FAIROAKS PARK.

THE MILLION DOLLARS GOT MOVED OUT OF THE CRA.

THE LINE ITEM.

BUT IT DON'T APPEAR ON THE BUDGET ANYMORE.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MILLION DOLLARS WENT.

18:16:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I TALKED TO MS. TRAVIS ABOUT THAT

YESTERDAY, BUT I UNDERSTAND, SO I THINK SHE WILL BE ABLE TO

COMMUNICATE WHERE THEY ARE AT.




18:17:05 >> CONNIE BURTON:
WE SAID WE WANT $2 MILLION AS A HOUSING,

FOR EXAMPLE, A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT, BECAUSE WORKING

CLASS PEOPLE CAN'T JUST BUY $400,000 HOMES.

GAVE IT BACK TO ME FOR ME TO WRITE IT OUT.

WHY WOULD I DO THAT?

I SEE HOW JEFF VINIK AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MOVE THIS

CITY TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.

BUT IF WE ARE PAYING A STAFF, AGAIN, AND THEY HAVE EXPERTISE

IN CERTAIN THINGS, DON'T ASK ME TO DO IT.

JUST DON'T TAKE OUR MONEY.

THANK YOU.

18:17:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. TRAVIS, I WOULD LIKE, BEFORE YOU SPEAK,

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, ARE THERE ANY OTHER CAC MEMBERS THAT

WANT TO SPEAK TO THE SAP?

YES, SIR?

18:17:59 >> GOOD EVENING.

JEFFREY JOHNSON, CAC MEMBER.

A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT THE CONTENT OF THE SAP IN WHICH WE HAD

GRIEVANCES WITH.

FIRST, BEFORE I GO THERE, I THINK, MR. CHAIR, EVEN THOUGH

MS. VAN LOAN GAVE HER RESIGNATION, AND THIS IS NOT A

PERSONAL STATEMENT, THIS IS ALL BUSINESS, I THINK SHE SHOULD

STILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL AS ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS

AND THE GRIEVANCES WE HAD.

BEFORE YOUR COMMITTEE.




AND EVEN THOUGH SHE'S BEING REASSIGNED OR GOING SOMEWHERE

ELSE IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT OF TAMPA, SHE'S STILL A CITY

EMPLOYEE.

AND I THINK THAT WILL HELP BRING SOME OF THE ATTENTION TO

THE FOREFRONT TO WHERE SHE'S NOW HELD ACCOUNTABLE OR THE

LACK THEREOF OF THE THINGS IN EAST TAMPA.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE CONTENT OF SAP, WE WERE BELIEVING THAT

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A CONTINUATION FROM THE SAP IN 2009.

IT WAS NOT THAT.

IT WAS A COMPLETELY NEW PLAN.

THERE WAS NOT MANY STEPS THAT REACHED FROM WHERE WE WERE.

ANOTHER PROBLEM WE HAD, THERE WERE NO ACTIONABLE STEPS IN

THE CURRENT SAP.

WE WANTED TO SEE WHAT WERE THOSE ACTIONABLE STEPS THAT WE

CAN USE AND OUR STANDING COMMITTEES COULD TAKE TO MAKE SURE

THAT THAT SAP CAME TO LIFE.

ALSO, IN OUR PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR, WE PLACED IN THE BUDGET

FOR AN SAP CONSULTANT TO ACTUALLY GIVE LEGS TO THIS, THAT AS

THE SAP WAS APPROVED, THIS PERSON WILL COME ABOARD TO MAKE

SURE THAT LIFE IS GIVEN TO THE SAP, SO THAT HASN'T BEEN

BROUGHT FORTH EITHER, BUT THAT IS ALSO IN OUR BUDGET.

ALSO, WHEN IT COMES TO THE CONTRACT, WE, THE NEW BOARD THAT

CAME UPON, WE NEVER WAS PRIVY TO THE CONTRACT THAT WAS

ORIGINALLY WRITTEN UP FOR THE CONTRACTORS GAI.

SO WHEN WE ASKED THEM FOR ADDITIONAL THINGS, WE HAD NO IDEA




THAT WE WERE BEING BILLED FOR THOSE THINGS.

ONE DAY WE CAME TO A MEETING AND THERE WAS AN INVOICE IN

FRONT OF US SAYING WHAT WE NEEDED TO PAY WHEN WE WERE

THINKING THAT WAS ALREADY PART OF THEIR PURVIEW AND THEIR

SCOPE OF THE SERVICES THAT THEY SHOULD BE PROVIDING AND WE

HAD TO COME BACK AND PAY.

THAT SO THAT WAS THE REASON WHY THERE WAS MUCH CONFUSION

BEHIND THAT.

WHY ARE WE PAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY CONTRACTUAL

THAT WE THOUGHT THAT THEY SHOULD BE OBLIGATED TO DO?

SO THOSE WERE OUR CONCERNS, THERE WAS A PLAN BUT THERE WAS

NO ACTION STEPS, HOW DO WE GET THIS DONE?

IF WE ARE A COMMUNITY OF VOLUNTEERS AND WE ARE PAYING A

CONSULTANT GROUP $328,000, THAT SHOULD BE OUTLINED IN THOSE

160 PAGES OR SO, TO SAY THESE ARE THE TEN AREAS IN WHICH WE

HAVE IDENTIFIED FROM TALKING TO THE RESIDENTS AND THE

BUSINESS OWNERS AND THIS IS HOW YOU ACCOMPLISH THAT.

THAT WAS NOT DONE.

AND WHEN GAI CAME AND HAD A MEETING WITH US, THERE WAS A

SENSE OF ARROGANCE THAT WAS BY THE LEADER OF GAI, AND WE HAD

MUCH CONTENTION TO THAT.

HE CAME AS IF WE SHOULD BE THANKFUL THAT HE'S COMING TO GIVE

THESE AMAZING IDEAS, WHEN IN FACT MANY OF THE THINGS THAT

THE COMMUNITY SAID THEY WANTED TO SEE WAS NOT LISTED IN THAT

STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.




SO THAT DEALS WITH OUR CONTENT OF THE SAP, AS WELL AS WHAT

OUR GRIEVANCES WERE ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT WERE

ASKED AFTER THE FACT WHEN WE WERE NOT MADE PRIVY TO KNOW

THESE WERE NOT PART OF THE SCOPE OF THE SERVICES AND MS. VAN

LOAN NEVER SAID IF THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING ADDITIONAL IT

WILL COST.

THAT NEVER CAME UP.

WE WAS HANDED AN INVOICE AND EXPECTED TO PAY THAT.

SO THAT IS THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE MANY GRIEVANCES ON BEHALF

OF OUR COMMITTEE, BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS, HOW IT WAS

HANDLED, AND WE WERE NOT PROPERLY VETTED TO KNOW WHAT THEIR

SCOPE WAS, AND NEITHER WERE WE GIVEN THE TOOLS TO ADDRESS

THEM.

18:21:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON.

ANY OTHER CAC MEMBERS THAT WISH TO BE SPEAK ABOUT THE SAP?

ABOUT --

18:21:56 >> NORENE COPELAND MILLER.

I'M ONLINE.

18:21:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MA'AM?

YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.

18:22:04 >> FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU ALL DID NOT RECOGNIZE ONLINE

EARLIER WAITING TO SPEAK TO THE PROCESS.

BUT AGAIN, I DO WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR SERVICE,

AND I DO WANT TO SAY SAP, AS A PROFESSIONAL PERSON, I AM

RETIRED NOW, BUT THINGS WERE DONE THAT WERE NOT IN BEST




PRACTICE BECAUSE WE KNOW THE SERVICES WITHOUT APPROVAL, THAT

FROM THE BOARD, THAT -- THIS SAP HAS NOT DONE WHAT WE ASKED,

DID NOT FOLLOW THE CONTRACT.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH JUST A MIRROR OF WHAT WAS ALREADY EXISTING

IN 2009.

WE WERE LOOKING FOR SOME UPDATES FOR THE CURRENT SITUATION

IN EAST TAMPA.

IN MY OPINION, IN THE 30-PLUS RESIDENTS -- AND I SENT YOU

ALL AN E-MAIL, I WAS UNABLE TO SEND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION,

IT'S NOT ABOUT ME, IT'S ABOUT MY COMMUNITY.

AND AT THIS TIME, I FEEL WE HAVE BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY.

I LISTENED TO A LOT OF THE FORMER CHAIR, AND NO MATTER HOW

WE SPIN IT, EAST TAMPA IS LABELED WITH RACIST OVERTONE, BUT

IT IS WHAT IT IS, AND THE SOONER WE MOVE PAST THAT, BECAUSE

I GREW UP IN SOUTH TAMPA.

SO I AM AWARE OF WHAT CAN AND WHAT CANNOT BE IN EAST TAMPA,

IS JUST LABELED TO BE USED, GRANT MONEY BY ZIP CODE, AND NOT

GIVEN OUR OPINIONS AND OPPORTUNITY.

SO THAT SAP DOES NOT REACH WHO WE ARE. IT'S BASED ON SOME

BEAUTIFUL PICTURES FOR $360,000 THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND

WHERE THAT IS GOING TO APPEAR, BUT WHAT I HEARD MS. VAN LOAN

TALK ABOUT BLOOMBERG OR WHATEVER, IT WAS A SHOCK TO ME

BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME SURPRISES THAT HE'S NOT AWARE OF AS A

BOARD THAT IS GOING ON BEHIND OUR BACKS, AND INCOMPETENT

THAT WE ARE NOT PROFESSIONALS, THAT WE ARE NOT EDUCATED TO




KNOW THE PROCESS, AND IN EAST TAMPA --EVERYTHING IN YOUR

PROCESS IS A FREE-FOR-ALL.

AND TO ME, EAST TAMPA WANTS TO BE THE BEST THAT IT CAN BE,

AND THE FRUSTRATION, IT'S LIKE WE ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE WE

ARE LED AROUND -- OUR OWN OPINION OF WHAT WE NEED OR WHAT WE

DESERVE, AND NOT HIGH EXPECTATIONS BUT LOW EXPECTATION.

SO HOPEFULLY SHE WILL BE IN THE COMMUNITY BUT IT'S CLEAR TO

ME WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SAP -- IT'S NOT IN THE BEST

INTEREST OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.

AND THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

18:25:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WOULD YOU PLEASE DO ME A FAVOR AND STATE

YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD?

18:25:18 >> MY NAME IS NORENE COPELAND MILLER, 30-PLUS YEAR EAST

TAMPA RESIDENT, AND A MEMBER OF THE CAC BOARD.

18:25:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE CAC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT

THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN?

18:25:34 >> GOOD EVENING.

CLINT PARIS.

I SERVE ON THE CAC BOARD.

I WON'T REITERATE ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE HEARD

TONIGHT.

BUT I WANT TO SHARE JUST A COUPLE OF DYNAMICS.

I'M NOT THE SHARPEST GUY, BUT USUALLY WHEN I CAN'T GET MY

HANDS AROUND SOMETHING, IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF AN ACCIDENT,




IT'S BECAUSE IT'S THE WAY THAT IT HAS BEEN SET UP

INTENTIONALLY.

AND IT TOOK ME A GOOD PROBABLY 12 MONTHS OF SITTING ON THE

CAC TO REALIZE, THIS THING IS A COMPLETE STRUCTURAL MESS.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S BY ACCIDENT.

THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY AT STAKE HERE.

A LOT OF MONEY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY FROM THE CAC WITHOUT

THE ACTUAL SERVICE THAT THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS ACTUALLY

HAPPEN.

BUT GOING BACK TO THE CAC BOARD, YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY THE

ONE MOST CONSISTENT THING HERE.

WE SAW ED JOHNSON LEAVE SHORTLY PROBABLY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO

NOW, I THINK IT IS, AND FOR ALMOST A YEAR, WE WERE JUST LEFT

ALMOST WITHOUT CLEAR LEADERSHIP.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS COMPLETELY ON US, BECAUSE THERE

WERE REPORTS BEING MADE, AND I HEARD REPORTS BEING MADE TO

THE CRA BOARD, AND YOU ALL JUST KIND OF NOD YOUR HEAD AND GO

ALONG WITH IT WITHOUT PUTTING THE REAL PRESSURE.

BECAUSE WE ARE TOLD AT OUR MEETINGS WE ARE JUST MAKING

RECOMMENDATIONS, WE ARE NOT REALLY DECIDING STUFF.

WE ARE JUST KIND OF MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THE REAL

MEAT GETS ON THE TABLE WHEN IT COMES TO YOU ALL.

SO I THINK YOU ALL NEED TO REALLY TAKE A HARD LOOK AT HOW

YOU HANDLED THIS CRA OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND ALLOWED




IT TO BE IN THE SITUATION THAT IT IS.

IT DOESN'T TAKE A BRAIN SURGEON TO REALIZE THAT SAP THAT WE

RECEIVED AND ONCE WE FINALLY GOT THE CONTRACT TO LOOK AT IT

DIDN'T LOOK LIKE WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO US.

IN FACT, WE ASKED THAT A LEGAL OPINION BE GIVEN FROM THE

LEGAL DEPARTMENT EXPLAINING, HERE IS THE SAP, IN LINE WITH

THE CONTRACT, AND THEY WILL PROVIDE IT TO GIVE TO US.

TO DATE WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT WILL

BE CONSISTENT WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO WHAT I CALL

THE CITY'S BLACK HOLE.

THINGS GO IN, AND BY THE TIME IT'S TIME FOR SOMETHING TO

COME OUT, THE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD KNOW WHAT SHOULD BE COMING

OUT, THEY ARE GONE AND NOW YOU HAVE ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE

WHO REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE

HAPPENING, SO WHAT DO THEY DO?

THEY TRUST THE PEOPLE THAT THEY THINK ARE SERVING TO GIVE

THEM WHAT THEY DESERVE.

SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS HERE, IS

WE HAVE TO CREATE A MECHANISM OF ACCOUNTABILITY, BECAUSE

THAT CONTRACT WAS SIGNED BY THE CITY, AND SOMEBODY AT THE

CITY SHOULD HAVE BEEN MONITORING AND SAY THIS IS NOT WHAT WE

ASKED FOR.

THAT'S AS IT PERTAINS TO THE SAP.

I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW FROM A LEGAL OPINION IF WHAT THEY

PRESENTED IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY CONTRACTED TO RECEIVE.




THE OTHER THING IS REGARDING THE PAYMENT.

IT JUST SEEMED LIKE ANYBODY ANYWHERE ANYTIME COULD YELL,

HEY, COME TO MY STREET.

HEY, COME WALK WITH US.

HEY, COME LOOK AT -- I THINK THERE WAS RETENTION POND.

COME LOOK AT MY RETENTION POND.

AND THEY WERE DONE.

AND THEN WE RECEIVED A BILL AND WE WERE BASICALLY TOLD BY

MICHELLE VAN LOAN, HEY, THIS IS THE BILL, HE'S DONE THE

SERVICES, YOU KIND OF NEED TO JUST GET THIS THING PAID.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY MINUTES -- MY POSITION WAS PAY THE

THING, GET IT OUT OF THE WAY SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT REAL

ISSUES THAT ARE CONCERNING THIS COMMUNITY.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS CRA BOARD TAKE A HARD LOOK AT

THAT SAP, LOOK AT THE CONTRACT, AND SEE IF YOU AGREE THAT

WHAT HE PRODUCED IS WHAT YOU ARE REALLY ASKING TO PROVIDE.

THAT'S AS IT PERTAINS TO THE SAP.

AND I WILL COME BACK AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME IN THE AGENDA

FOR OTHER COMMENTS.

18:29:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. PARIS.

MR. MASSEY.

18:29:33 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I DO WANT TO RESPOND REGARDING THE SAP AND

I DID RECEIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS I THINK FROM MS. TATE ABOUT

SPECIFIC CONCERNS, THAT THE EAST TAMPA CAC HAD WITH THE

DRAFT, AND I DID REFER IT BACK TO CRA STAFF AT THE GAI AND




ASKED THEM WHY THERE IS THIS DISCONNECT.

AND A COUPLE THINGS.

GAI, NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE NOT PAID THEM THE ENTIRE AMOUNT.

WE ARE HOLDING BACK MONEY STILL UNDER THE CONTRACT.

SO WE HAVE NOT PAID THEM FOR THEIR PERFORMANCE YET.

SO THEY ARE STILL UNDER CONTRACT.

WE HAVE ADVISED THEM OF THE DEFICIENCY THAT YOU ALL HAVE

NOTED, SOME OF WHICH I AGREE WITH, THEY DON'T COMPLY WITH

THE SCOPE OF THE CONTRACT.

AND THEY HAVE RESPONDED THAT THEY ARE REVISING THE DRAFT

CONTRACT, DRAFT SAP, TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS.

SO UNTIL -- WE ARE NOT AT THE POINT OF FINDING THEM IN

DEFAULT OR FINDING THAT THE SAP IS WRONG.

THE SAP IS STILL IN DRAFT FORM.

SO THEY ARE SUPPOSEDLY ADDRESSING THOSE CONCERNS AND COMING

BACK WITH THE REVISIONS TO THE SAP.

18:30:49 >> CLINTON PARIS:
MR. CHAIR? IF I MIGHT?

THIS HAS THE FEEL OF THE KIND OF RESPONSE WE GET FROM THE

CITY, ABOUT THE ISSUES WE ASKED.

WE ASKED FOR A LEGAL OPINION.

WE DIDN'T ASK TO COORDINATE WITH GAI AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE

DONE.

WE ASKED FOR A LEGAL OPINION.

AND NOTHING HAS COME FORWARD, AND TODAY WE DIDN'T HEAR

ANYTHING LEGAL ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE




WITH THAT CONTRACT.

WE JUST ASKED THAT WE BE CLEAR, IS WHAT WE RECEIVED

CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE CONTRACTED FOR.

NOW MAYBE THEY CAN FIX IT AND CORRECT IT, BUT THE QUESTION

WAS FOR A LEGAL OPINION, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD BE

ABLE TO GET ONE AT SOME POINT.

18:31:29 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THE LEGAL OPINION IS THE CONTRACT HAS NOT

BEEN FULLY PERFORMED AND WE ARE HOLDING BACK MONEY UNTIL

THEY HAVE PERFORMED UNDER THE CONTRACT.

18:31:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER CAC MEMBERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK

ABOUT THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN?

18:31:43 >> HELLO.

MY NAME IS DOMINIQUE COBB, VICE CHAIR OF THE CAC.

MY OPINION, MY COMMENTS, ALSO LIKE MOST OF THE PUBLIC, AND

ALSO THE CAC BOARD.

I AM MAKING A REQUEST AS I DID IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING TO

TABLE THE SAP UNTIL WE GET ACTUAL FEEDBACK FROM GAI, AND

THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, SPEAKING OF SAP, WHEN I ORIGINALLY

JOINED THE BOARD BACK IN 2020 MAYBE, 2019, WITH MY

BACKGROUND IN PUBLIC POLICY AND ADMINISTRATION, I WAS ASKED

TO JOIN THIS BOARD BECAUSE OF MY EXPERTISE IN A CERTAIN

OUNT OF AREAS ON THIS BOARD.

WHILE LOOKING FOR THAT, UNBEKNOWNST TO ME, A LOT OF MY

DIRECTIONS THAT I HAVE PUT IN WITH OUR MEETINGS HAVE COME




FROM THE LAKELAND CRA.

SO TO GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING ABOUT MS.

TRAVIS, I DID NOT KNOW THAT SHE WAS THE IMPLEMENTER OF ALL

THOSE PROGRAMS I HAD ALREADY BEEN USHERING INTO THE CURRENT

CAC.

SO I AM IN FAVOR OF MS. TRAVIS WORKING ALONG WITH US, AND

HELPING WITH THAT.

AS THE OTHER ITEMS COME UP, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SPEAK TO

THOSE, BECAUSE AGAIN ALL OF THESE ARE VALID.

IN REGARD TO THE SAP, WE SPENT A LARGE AMOUNT OF TIME OVER

COVID TAKING SURVEYS.

MOST OF THE SAPs THAT WAS GIVEN TO US WAS GENERATED FROM

THE BOARD, DOWN EVEN TO THE EAST TAMPA LOGO.

IF ANYTHING, I WOULD REQUEST TO GET PAID FOR THAT BECAUSE

THAT WAS MY INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY THAT WAS USED DURING THAT.

SO I AM NOT ASKING FOR REPARATIONS NOW, BUT AGAIN, THE

INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN, SURVEYS THAT WERE TAKEN FROM THE

COMMUNITY, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO USE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT

NOW, BECAUSE ONE THING THAT WE DID GET FROM THE SAP, THERE

ARE QUITE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS, HOUSING, ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT, AND I BELIEVE ALL OF THOSE THINGS CAN BE

ATTAINABLE WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, BUT THE ISSUE IS

THAT WE KEEP ASKING YOU ALL FOR HELP AND YOU ARE NOT

HELPING.

SO WHAT I AM ASKING IS THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN MONEY TO BE ABLE




TO DELEGATE THE WAY WE NEED TO.

THAT COULD BE DELEGATED THROUGH PRIVATE ENTITIES, THAT CAN

BE DELEGATED THROUGH NONPROFITS THAT ARE ALREADY WORKING IN

THE AREA.

I HOPE THAT MS. TRAVIS CAN GO AHEAD AND WORK WITH US TO GET

THOSE THINGS IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE AGAIN ALL OF US ARE

VOLUNTEERS, WE ARE NOT GETTING PAID, WE ARE NOT DEVELOPERS.

WE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE REINVESTED IN THIS AREA.

I COULD HAVE MOVED TO D.C.

I COULD HAVE MOVED TO RIVERVIEW.

I DECIDED TO COME BACK TO EAST TAMPA BECAUSE WE ARE ONE OF

THE LAST AREAS WHERE THE DEMOGRAPHIC LOOKS LIKE US.

AND UNFORTUNATELY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, THEIR HOMES ARE

BEING BLOWN AWAY, THEIR HOMES ARE FALLING APART, AND IF WE

DON'T DO OUR PART RIGHT NOW, THOSE HOMES ARE GOING TO FALL

APART AND A DEVELOPER IS GOING TO COME AND REDEVELOP AND

THEY CAN'T MOVE BACK INTO THAT AND STAY AT HOME.

SO AGAIN I HOPE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WE HAVE RIGHT NOW

CAN WORK WITH US TO NOT ONLY FIX HOMES, BUT ALSO USHER IN

MULTIFAMILY HOMES, MULTI-DIMENSIONAL PROPERTIES.

WE KNOW THAT THE PLANNING COMMITTEE HAS HIRED A VP IN EAST

TAMPA.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S GOING TO A WHOLE ANOTHER AREA OF

HOUSING.

BUT IF I HAVE A HOUSING VOUCHER, I CANNOT MOVE TO EAST TAMPA




BECAUSE I CANNOT EVEN AFFORD IT ON A VOUCHER.

SO THESE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS NOT HELPED US SO I AM

NOT ASKING FOR HELP.

WHAT I AM ASKING FOR IS THE MONEY TO DO THE THINGS WE NEED

TO DO AND THE SPACE WE NEED TO DO IT.

[ APPLAUSE ]

18:35:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ARE THERE ANY OTHER CAC MEMBERS WHO WOULD

LIKE TO SPEAK?

18:35:41 >> I JUST WANTED TO BRING ONE THING TO LIGHT.

THE CAC DID NOT INITIALLY SELECT THE CONSULTANT.

THE PROCESS OF BRINGING THAT CONSULTANT ONBOARD WAS ACTUALLY

DONE BY STAFF, ADMINISTRATION.

SO WE WERE GIVEN A LIST OF POTENTIAL PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO --

WHO APPLIED FOR THE RFP.

AND WE CREATED A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO MEET WITH

THEM, AND MEET WITH EVERY ONE OF THE APPLICANTS, AND THEN

COME BACK AND LET US KNOW.

ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS SAID THEY WEREN'T NOTICED TO THE

MEETINGS SO THEY DIDN'T ATTEND, AND THE OTHER ONE COULDN'T

ATTEND.

AND AS A CHAIRMAN NEVER MADE AWARE OF THAT.

IT ALL HAPPENED WITHOUT ANY OF OUR CAC MEMBERS BEING PRESENT

TO DECIDE WHAT WAS THE BEST CONSULTANT.

SO WE WERE ADVISED AT ONE MEETING THAT GAI, THIS IS WHO IT




IS, WHICH CREATED A WHOLE BIG RUCKUS, BECAUSE EVERYONE SAID,

THIS WAS NOT -- WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY INSIGHT FOR THIS, WE

CAN'T GO TO OUR MEMBERS AND SAY HOW WAS IT, WHO WAS THE BEST

ONE?

AND IT WAS KIND OF POO-POOED, SO WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH

AGAIN AND THE GAI SAT DOWN AND SAID THIS IS WHAT WE'LL DO,

AND ALL THIS, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO

THE OTHER ONE.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT KNOWN THAT WE DID NOT SELECT GAI.

GAI WAS SELECTED BY CITY STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION AND THEY

WERE GIVEN TO US.

18:37:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. GOODLEY, YOU MADE A COMMENT EARLIER

ABOUT GOING TO THE FLORIDA CRA?

IS THAT WHERE YOU FOUND YOUR KNOWLEDGE?

18:37:17 >> THAT IS WHERE I FOUND PART OF MY KNOWLEDGE.

18:37:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OKAY.

THE FLORIDA CRA IS EXCELLENT, AND IT'S USUALLY HELD AT THE

FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES.

I WOULD RECOMMEND IT TO ANYBODY TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT

CRAs.

18:37:30 >> AND I THINK IT WAS THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. IT WAS

A CONFERENCE THAT WAS IN FT. MYERS.

18:37:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OKAY.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT, EXCUSE ME.

IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS




FROM THE CAC, CONCERNING THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, MS.

TRAVIS, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT?

18:37:49 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT ECONOMIC

OPPORTUNITY.

SO I HAVE SOME COMMENTS REGARDING THE SAP.

I HAVE READ THE DOCUMENT, AND I HAVE HEARD THE FRUSTRATION.

MY COMMENTS REALLY ARE NOT JUST ABOUT THE SAP.

WHAT YOU SEE HERE AND HEAR HERE ARE PEOPLE FRUSTRATED IN THE

PROCESS AND THINGS NOT GETTING DONE IN A MANNER THAT IS

ACCEPTABLE AND IN A TIMELINE THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE CAN IMPROVE ON IS TAKING

PEOPLE ALONG THE JOURNEY WITH US, EXPLAINING THE PROCESS,

AND EXPLAINING HOW LONG THINGS TAKE, INSTEAD OF MAKING

DECISIONS OR IMPLEMENTING THINGS, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU

HAVE IS TWO YEARS THE CRA BOARD ASKED FOR A DIRECTOR.

YOU GOT A DIRECTOR AND THEN YOU RECEIVE MONTHLY REPORTS FROM

THAT DIRECTOR.

BUT ALONG THE PROCESS, BETWEEN STAFF TALKING TO THE CAC

BOARD MEMBERS AND THEM WANTING TO TAKE THINGS TO YOU, THERE

IS LAG TIME BUT WE SHOULD BE REPORTING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY

SO WE KNOW WHERE THINGS ARE, WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

AND SO I'M TAKING NOTES.

I ASKED, DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET IN CONTACT WITH MOST OF THE

SPEAKERS THAT ARE HERE?




BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO START HANDING OUT CARDS BECAUSE I

WANT TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY.

I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WANTS ARE, HOW WE CAN

IMPLEMENT THINGS TOGETHER.

YOU CAN'T DO DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

YOU ABSOLUTELY CANNOT.

YOU HAVE TO BE BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S MY WORK, IT'S MY CAREER, AND IT'S WHAT I HAVE DONE AND

I PLAN TO DO IT HERE AS WELL.

I HEAR FRUSTRATION BUT I SEE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY.

I SEE A LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES FROM WHEN I WAS IN TAMPA

BEFORE, AND ALSO SOME LIFE-LONG FAMILY FRIENDS.

SO I AM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO OPPORTUNITY, CONTINUE TO

TAKE NOTES ON THE OTHER ITEMS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE SAID, ACCESSORY DWELLING

UNITS.

YOU HEARD THIS FROM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PERSPECTIVE OF

HOUSING CRISIS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF IS BRINGING BACK TO YOU IN THE

JUNE WORKSHOP IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE

CITY, SOME AREAS JUST ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT IT.

THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT COULD USE ACCESSORY DWELLING

UNITS, DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, AND BE AWARE OF BUILDING

GENERATIONAL WEALTH, AND ALSO A WAY OF BEING ABLE TO




SUPPLEMENT THEIR INCOME BY BEING ABLE TO HAVE -- TO RENT A

PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I ALREADY DIRECTED STAFF TO WORK ON

AND THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE WORKS.

SO A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU ARE HEARING HERE, THEY HAVE

GREAT IDEAS, AND I COMPLETELY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH

THE COMMUNITY MOVING FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU.

18:40:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

[ APPLAUSE ]

COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

18:40:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[OFF MICROPHONE] I'M SORRY.

18:40:59 >> OH, OKAY, SORRY.

SO I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.

I'M NOT SURE.

I'M SORRY?

THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMENTS.

I WILL INVITE ANYBODY AFTERWARDS TO SPEAK TO ME.

SO WITH THE FAIROAKS PROJECT, THERE HAS BEEN A SERIES OF

MASSIVE PLANS.

WE MEET BIWEEKLY NOW.

WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THERE SEEMS

TO HAVE NOT BEEN ANY PROGRESS MADE ON THIS PROJECT.

HOWEVER, THERE IS PROGRESS, AND A PART OF THAT IS US NOT

REPORTING BACK ON THE PROGRESS THAT WE HAVE MADE.




THERE IS A LOT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY ACQUISITION.

WE JUST CLOSED ON THE LAST PIECE ON CARACAS LAST WEEK,

THURSDAY.

WE ALREADY STARTED THE PROCESS OF VACATING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

AND WE ARE IN ACTIVE NEGOTIATIONS AGAIN WITH PENNY SAVER.

AND I SHARED WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES YESTERDAY THAT, SO HELP

ME GOD, I AM GOING TO TRY TO SECURE THAT.

BUT WE CAN'T ALLOW PENNY SAVER TO HOLD US HOSTAGE EITHER SO

WE ARE GOING TO ACTIVELY NEGOTIATE WITH PENNY SAVER BUT ALSO

WORK ON A MASTER PLAN AND VACATING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY NOW THAT

WE HAVE HAD THE LAST PIECE ON CARACAS TO PLAN THAT IF WE

DON'T GET PENNY SAVERS WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A PROJECT

FOR THE COMMUNITY.

IF WE GET PENNY SAVERS, IT HAS ADDED BENEFIT.

SO WE ARE ACTIVELY NEGOTIATING ON THAT PROJECT.

AND THE UPDATE THAT I PROVIDED TO COUNCILMAN GUDES

YESTERDAY.

18:42:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU KNOW, TO MOVE A COMMUNITY, THEY MUST

SEE CHANGE.

THEY MUST SEE A DIFFERENT LOOK.

IT'S NOT FAIROAKS.

BECAUSE FAIROAKS IS JUST A BUILDING.

THAT COMMUNITY IS NOT CALLED FAIROAKS.

18:42:46 >> CORRECT.

18:42:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT.




THE BUILDING IS FAIROAKS.

ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES WITH THAT IS NOT PART OF THAT

FAIROAKS.

WE HAVE SEVEN TO TEN OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THAT BUILDING.

EVERY COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE A PART OF THAT NEW PROJECT.

AND WE SAY FAIROAKS.

WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO SAY FAIROAKS.

THE BUILDING CAN BE NAMED FAIROAKS BUT THAT WHOLE NEW

DEVELOPMENT HAS TO BE EAST TAMPA COMPLEX, WHATEVER YOU WANT

TO NAME IT, BUT IT HAS TO BE INCLUSIVE OF ALL COMMUNITIES,

BECAUSE THAT ENTAILS ALL PEOPLE MEETING TOGETHER, BOND

TOGETHER, BREAK BREAD TOGETHER.

THAT WE HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL COMMUNITY CENTER, DANCE, STEP,

GYMNASTICS, THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE, THAT ALL THOSE

COMMUNITIES CAN USE.

SO YES, FOR ME, WE CAN DO WHAT YOU DO, BUT PENNY SAVER IS A

MUST.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE FINANCIAL DOLLARS.

IT IS A MUST BECAUSE THAT WILL CHANGE THE WHOLE OUTLOOK OF

34th STREET.

THE WHOLE FACE OF THE 34th STREET.

SO THAT IS A MUST.

SO WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND

NEGOTIATION IS DIFFICULT.

18:43:59 >> WE ARE IN NEGOTIATION NOW.




18:44:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I GET IT.

I GET IT.

I GET THAT.

BUT AGAIN, THE OTHER PART, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT AT

A FAIR PRICE AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST TRYING TO

GIVE IT TO EAST TAMPA, THAT WE GET A FAIR PRICE TO GET

WHATEVER WE HAVE GOT TO GET.

BUT AGAIN, MY THING IS EVENTUALLY, HOWEVER WE GET IT, NO

MATTER WHAT WE DO AROUND IT, 34th HAS TO HAVE A FACE

LIFT.

18:44:26 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I AGREE, AND EXCUSE ME, COUNCILMAN, 100%

AGREE, AND IF WE DON'T GET IT, IT WILL NOT BE FOR LACK OF

EFFORT ON OUR PART.

AND YOU HAVE MY WORD ON THAT.

YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO

REPORT ON IT.

18:44:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. MASSEY, CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE LEGAL

ASPECTS OF THIS?

18:44:48 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I WANT TO QUICKLY ADDRESS THE MILLION

DOLLARS OF CRA FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED TO THE ACQUISITION

OF PENNY SAVER FUND.

I WILL TALK TO REVENUE AND FINANCE, BUT THAT MONEY SHOULD

STILL BE RESIDING WITH THE CRA, EXCEPT FOR SOME MONEYS THAT

WERE PAID FOR TITLE COMMITMENT AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL

REPORTS, WHICH WOULD BE NOMINAL AMOUNT, THAT WE HOPEFULLY




CAN USE IF WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PENNY

SAVER.

THAT MONEY SHOULD BE THERE AVAILABLE IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET

THAT UNDER CONTRACT TO PURCHASE OUR PROPERTY.

18:45:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

18:45:22 >> YOU GO FIRST.

18:45:27 >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE FAIROAKS ISSUE.

TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO OR SO, AT THE CRA BOARD MEETINGS

AND AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, WE HAD A PERSON AFTER

PERSON AFTER PERSON COME BEFORE US AND SAY, CAN YOU PLEASE

DO SOMETHING ABOUT FAIROAKS?

THE CITY IS NOT DOING ANYTHING.

THE LAST ADMINISTRATION WAS ASKED TWICE, AND PARKS

DEPARTMENT PRESENTED THIS TO THE PUBLIC.

TWICE SPENT 300,000 TO RENOVATE A BUILDING, AND THEY

REFUSED.

DESPITE SPENDING $100 MILLION TO SUBSIDIZE SOME BUILDINGS

DOWN THE STREET.

SO I THINK IT WAS MAYBE MR. GUDES' IDEA, BUT WE HELD, CRA

BOARD, HELD A COMMUNITY MEETING AT FAIROAKS, AND WHILE WE

WERE THERE THE COMMUNITY GOT UP AND SAID, YOU SEE THERE ARE

BARS ON THE WINDOWS, IT'S A FIRE TRAP, THERE WERE LIKE 100

PEOPLE IN THE ROOM, AND PEOPLE TOLD US THAT WHEN SENIORS AND

KIDS WENT THERE, THAT THEY COULD HEAR RATS IN THE CEILING,

THAT THE ADMINISTRATION MADE FUN OF US AND THE COMMUNITY




CAME FORWARD AND SAID THERE ARE RAT HAIRS FALLING OUT OF THE

CEILING, AND THE CITY DID A ADMIT THEY CAUGHT TO RATS,

ALTHOUGH LATER THEY DENIED IT, AND THEN WE ASKED OVER AND

OVER AGAIN WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THIS?

SO WE GO TO THE CRA BOARD IS SEPARATE FROM THE CITY, SO WE

HAD THIS COMMUNITY MEETING AT FAIROAKS, AND BEFORE THE CITY

STAFF RUSHED -- THE CITY STAFF RUSHED UP AND SAID THE MAYOR

WANTS TO INVITE YOU HERE TODAY BUT SHE COULDN'T BE HERE SO

HERE IS A VIDEO.

AND THEY PLAYED THE VIDEO.

AND THE VIDEO SAYS THAT SHE'S COMMITTED TO RENOVATE THE

BUILDING.

AND THE COMMUNITY STARTED KIND OF A ROAR.

THEY WERE UPSET, WHY IS SHE JUST GOING TO RENOVATE THE

BUILDING?

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT.

SO INSTEAD OF LISTENING TO THE FEEDBACK FROM THE STAFF,

WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE PLANNING ON DOING, THEY TRIED TO

PREEMPT, AND ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY SAID A PRESS

RELEASE WAS IN THE SENTINEL BULLETIN A FEW DAYS AGO SAYING

THE MAYOR WAS GOING TO RENOVATE THE BUILDING.

SO WE LISTENED AND THE COMMUNITY SAID WE WANT YOU TO REDO

THIS BUILDING, WE WANT THE SAME STANDARDS AS EVERYWHERE

ELSE, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE BASKETBALL COURTS AND SWIMMING

PLACES AND WHY CAN'T WE HAVE COMPUTER ROOMS AND A PLACE THAT




ISN'T A FIRE TRAP. AND WE WANT THE RATS OUT OF THE

BUILDING.

AND SO THE MAYOR SAID, OKAY, I'LL SPEND THE 300,000 OR

RENOVATE.

SO A COUPLE MONTHS LATER, THERE'S A PRESS CONFERENCE.

AND IT SEEMS EVERYTHING IS ABOUT PRESS CONFERENCES.

SO THE PRESS CONFERENCE WAS NOW WE ARE GOING TO SPEND $18

MILLION ON THIS PARK.

AND THE COMMUNITY SAYS, YES, WE SHOULD SPEND $18 MILLION ON

THE PARK.

GREAT.

SOME FOLKS SAID MAYBE 3 TO 5 MILLION WE COULD DO WHAT WE

HAVE DONE AT OTHER PLACES AND SPEND THE REST ON AFFORDABLE

HOUSING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT SAID NOW WE ARE GOING TO SPEND 18 MILLION.

SO THEN WE GOT A BUNCH OF OTHER NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.

WHY ARE WE SPENDING SO MUCH? WE WANT A BETTER PARK BUT WE

ALSO WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SIDEWALKS, BETTER STREETS.

THEN THE CRA PUTS A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY IN, AND THE CRA IS

OUT OF IT.

SO THE PRESS CONFERENCE HAPPENS AND THE CRA BOARD IS NOT

INVITED.

PRESS CONFERENCE IS SET UP, CRA CHAIR IS NOT SCHEDULED TO GO

TO THE MEETING. CAC IS NOT INVITED TO COME TO THE MEETING.

CONVERSELY, AS SOME OF US AT THE JACKSON HOUSE FOR YEARS, WE




SAID WE NEED TO BE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE AND

THE MAYOR MADE A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT WITH JEFF VINIK SAYING THE

CITY IS PUTTING IN A MILLION, JEFF VINIK IS PUTTING IN A

MILLION.

GUESS WHAT. A FEW YEARS LATER CRA GETS THE BILL.

SO THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE, THAT WE ARE A SEPARATE

LEGAL ENTITY.

IF YOU LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, THE COMPLAINTS THEY HAVE ARE

MOSTLY ABOUT HOW CRA INTERFACES WITH CITY STAFF AND HOW

THINGS GOT BOGGED DOWN.

AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MOVE THIS STUFF FORWARD?

IS IT THAT WE HAVE TO OFFER PRESS CONFERENCES AND PUT THE

T-3 LOGO ON EVERYTHING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN?

WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO GET MOVING ON IT?

I DON'T CARE IF I GET CREDIT, OR IF THE CRA BOARD GETS

CREDIT, BUT WHY IS EVERYTHING AROUND A PRESS CONFERENCE

INSTEAD OF GETTING RESULTS FOR THE COMMUNITY?

[ APPLAUSE ]

18:49:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. MASSEY, WITH THE PENNY SAVER, WHERE ARE

WE AT LEGALLY ON THAT?

EXCUSE ME.

THANK YOU.

18:49:39 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THE CURRENT CONTRACT HAS BEEN TERMINATED.

NOW WE ARE NEGOTIATING WITH THE BROKER WHO REPRESENTS THE

OWNER OF THE BUILDING AGAIN.




18:49:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WHY WAS IT TERMINATED?

18:49:54 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
BECAUSE THERE WAS A TENANT IN THE BUILDING

WHO REFUSED TO MOVE AND WE OFFERED SOME ADDITIONAL SUMS TO

MOVE THEM OUT WHICH WE THOUGHT WAS SUFFICIENT AND THEN THEY

ASKED FOR MORE.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE TERMINATED THE CONTRACT.

NOW THE FACT THAT WE TERMINATED THE CONTRACT DOESN'T MEAN WE

CANNOT COME BACK AND RENEGOTIATE, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE

THIS TIME WHEN WE NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE A DEAL

WORKED OUT WITH THE TENANT SO THERE ARE NO ISSUES WITH

CLOSING.

18:50:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SO IT WASN'T THE OWNER, IT WAS A TENANT

THAT RENEGED ON THE CONTRACT?

18:50:28 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
WHEN WE ENTERED INTO THE CONTRACT, THE

CONTRACT PROVIDES LIKE MOST REAL ESTATE CONTRACTS, THAT THE

CITY WOULD GET EXCLUSIVE POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY WITH NO

TENANTS IN IT.

AND THEY AGREED THAT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE ANY TENANTS IN THE

BUILDING.

THE TENANT THEN SAID, WELL, WE HAVE GOT A 20-YEAR LEASE ON

THE PROPERTY AND WE ARE NOT MOVING UNLESS WE ARE PAID A

SUBSTANTIAL SUM OF MONEY.

18:50:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES, DID YOU WANT TO SAY

ANYTHING?

18:50:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.




LET'S GO BACK A LITTLE BIT.

MR. CARLSON IS RIGHT ON A LOT OF THIS BUT I HAVE TO GIVE

CREDIT TO THE ADMINISTRATION WHERE CREDIT IS DUE.

THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS FOR THE AL BARNES PARK.

THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL.

THEN FAIROAKS, A FEW FOLKS TALKED ABOUT FAIROAKS, AND A

COUPLE MOTIONS ABOUT FAIROAKS, THE ADMINISTRATION CALLED ME

AND SAID, LISTEN, AL BARNES COSTS WAY, WAY TOO MUCH BECAUSE

OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE GROUND.

WELL, YOU HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY ON 34th STREET,

AND WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO OBTAIN THOSE PROPERTIES AND SO

FORTH.

AND THEN WE'LL MAKE THIS MEGA CENTER WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE

FOR THE DANCE, STEP, GYMNASTICS, STAND-ALONE SENIOR CENTER,

UPGRADE ON A FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL COURT, BASEBALL, AND THE

POSSIBLE SMALL AUDITORIUM AT THE CENTER WHERE FAIROAKS IS.

SO THAT WAS A COMPROMISE.

SO TO ME THAT WAS A WIN-WIN FOR ALL COMMUNITIES, NOT JUST

THE SENIORS, BUT FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, OUR SENIORS, OUR

ATHLETES, TO HAVE A COMPLETE COMPOUND LIKE OTHER AREAS HAVE.

SO THAT WAS THE COMPROMISE. I HAVE TO GIVE KUDOS TO THE

ADMINISTRATION FOR COMING TO ME ASKING WOULD I GO ALONG WITH

LEAVING AL BARNES AND HAVING A BIGGER PLACE FOR ALL OF OUR




13 COMMUNITIES IN EAST TAMPA, SO OF COURSE I SAY YES, I

THOUGHT THAT WAS A FAIR COMPROMISE, BECAUSE NOW I AM GETTING

MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK FOR ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES.

THAT'S HOW IT CAME ABOUT.

18:52:26 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
JUST AS A FOLLOW-UP TO THE PROGRAMMING.

I TOLD YOU WE WERE HAVING BIWEEKLY MEETINGS ABOUT THE EAST

TAMPA REGIONAL. I WON'T CALL IT FAIROAKS, BUT FOR THAT

AREA, AND WE TALKED ABOUT GOING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND

FIGURING OUT THE PROGRAMMING THAT THEY WANT WITHIN THE

FACILITY, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST

ANOTHER BASKETBALL COURT.

SO WE ARE COMING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY ON THAT.

18:52:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
AS YOU SHOULD.

18:52:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE GO TO THE CAC AND HAVE THEM HAVE A

CONTEST FOR THE NAMING OF THIS PARK.

JUST A THOUGHT.

COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

18:53:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUST A FEW GENERAL COMMENTS.

YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT I HEARD FROM MY MOTHER A FEW MONTHS

AGO THAT WAS FRUSTRATING WAS SHE WENT OVER TO HIGHLAND PINES

TO SEE THE HOUSE THAT SHE LIVED IN AS A KID BEFORE MY FAMILY

MOVED TO WEST TAMPA IN 1972, AND SHE TOOK HILLSBOROUGH DOWN

TO 40th, AND HER ROUTE, AND SHE SAID IT LOOKS THE SAME.

AND THEY MOVED OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT AREA, FIFTY

YEARS AGO, BUT SAID IT LOOKED THE SAME, ALL THESE BUILDINGS




ON HILLSBOROUGH, ALL THE BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY,

AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

BECAUSE MY MOTHER ALSO SAYS, BEING THAT SHE LEFT CUBA IN

1961, SAYS IT'S AMAZING HOW TAMPA HAS CHANGED, THE RIVERWALK

AND DOWNTOWN AND SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, AND WEST TAMPA, AND

MIDTOWN, ALL THESE THINGS.

AND I TOLD HER, SINCE I HAVE BEEN ELECTED, WHICH WAS SEVEN

YEARS AGO, WE HAVE HAD MIDTOWN, WATER STREET, ARMATURE

WORKS, JULIAN LANE, THE EXTENSION OF THE RIVERWALK.

I HAVE WATCHED THE CITY FLOURISH.

I AM BORN AND RAISED HERE AND I HAVE SEEN SO MANY CHANGES IN

37 YEARS.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE SOME PEOPLE ASSUME THAT THE CITY LIMITS

END AT THE INTERSTATE OF 275.

AND EAST OF THAT TO THE CITY LIMITS, AND NOTHING HAPPENS,

AND WHY IS IT, THAT SO MUCH GROWTH IS TAKING PLACE, WATERS

STREET IS A MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT, MIDTOWN IS A 30-PLUS-ACRE

PARCEL.

AGAIN, EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE RIVER.

OUR REAL ESTATE MARKET.

WE HAVE CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WANT US TO STOP

THE BUILDING IN SOUTH TAMPA AND WHATNOT.

BUT YET IN EAST TAMPA, IT'S LIKE THE LAND THAT TIME FORGOT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE AND I AM NOT BLAMING

YOU.




I AM LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE. WHY IS IT THAT BLACK

PEOPLE AND BLACK COMMUNITIES OR EAST TAMPA IN GENERAL CAN'T

GET WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS GETTING.

[ APPLAUSE ]

WHY IS IT THAT THE MIDDLE CLASS THROUGHOUT OTHER PARTS OF

THE CITY OF TAMPA GROWS, AND WE TALK ABOUT SO MANY PEOPLE

ARE MOVING HERE AND HOUSING IS UNAFFORDABLE BUT EAST TAMPA

IS FROZEN IN TIME.

AND MR. HILL, WHO I HAVE KNOWN FOR SEVERAL YEARS, TALKED

ABOUT COMING FROM WASHINGTON, D.C., AND COMING HERE AND THE

FRUSTRATION THAT HE GETS FOR A LITTLE THING LIKE A COMMUNITY

GARDEN.

PEOPLE WANT TO WORK AND WANT TO WATCH THIS COMMUNITY

FLOURISH, THEY WANT TO LIVE IT UP, BUT EITHER THE POLITICAL

WILL IS NOT THERE, THE POLITICAL INTENTIONS ARE FOCUSED ON

OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, INSTEAD OF THIS AREA, WHICH AGAIN

WE HAVE THE LARGEST CRA IN THE STATE, OKAY?

WE HAVE HAD SO MUCH HAPPEN IN THE LAST CENTURY IN TAMPA.

URBAN RENEWAL, ALL THIS GROWTH, SO MANY THINGS, AND EAST

TAMPA IS JUST THERE, AND THE PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY BEGGING

JUST TO HAVE A HAND-UP, YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY OF HOUSING,

HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, SIDEWALKS, ROADS.

I MEAN, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO GET

THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR?

18:56:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.




18:56:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. MANISCALCO, I WOULD FOLLOW UP ON WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

FOR AUDIENCE AND US TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID AND

HOW IT'S COME TO PLAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AT THE END REGARDING THE

MONEYS THAT ARE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY SO WE CAN

ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO I WILL WAIT UNTIL THE END.

18:56:25 >> MS. BURTON.

18:56:29 >> CONNIE BURTON:
THE WAY I SEE THE PROPERTY BEING TAKEN

AWAY FROM AFRICAN PEOPLE, THROUGH CODE VIOLATION, IF YOU ARE

GOING TO LOOK AT PENNY SAVER, WHATEVER THEY ARE CALLING IT

NOW, IT DON'T SET TO ANY STANDARDS.

I HAVE SEEN WHOLE AFRICAN COMMUNITIES DISAPPEAR.

I KNOW WHERE ARMATURE WORKS IS USED TO BE A THRIVING AFRICAN

COMMUNITY.

OVER THERE CALLED HYDE PARK NOW, ALL BLACK FOLKS LIVED

THERE.

AND MAYBE IT'S NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT TO SAY IT BUT THIS

CITY HAS A GLAZER CHILDREN'S MUSEUM OF HATE, H-A-T-E,

CAPITAL, WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH THE ISSUES OF AFRICAN

PEOPLE, AND IT SHOULD BE SHAMEFUL THAT 20 YEARS OF THIS CRA

WE ARE JUST IN THE MIDDLE OF A DISCUSSION.

AND LAST, COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE ARE NOW LOOKING AT OUR

COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT THAT WHICH WAS ONCE THE




AFRICAN COMMUNITY.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ONCE UPON A TIME.

ONCE UPON A TIME, THAT WAS OUR HISTORY, AND IT'S BEING

DISAPPEARED.

SO I DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEM IF WE DON'T WANT TO NAME IT

FAIROAKS, BUT I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THE CULTURE OF EVERYTHING

THAT WAS AFRICAN, JUST LIKE KID MASON CENTER, HOW LONG HAVE

YOU BEEN ASKING THEM TO BRING THE BLUEPRINT FOR KID MASON?

A LITTLE PARK THAT HAS PLENTY OF HISTORY, AND YET WE DON'T

HAVE NO FOOTPRINTS IN THIS CITY THAT BLACK PEOPLE HAVE

LABORED HARD, AND IT HAS GONE BEFORE OUR EYES.

AND I WOULD JUST SAY WE HAVE BEEN TWO HOURS ON JUST THE

FIRST SUBJECT MATTER.

WE WILL BE HERE ALL NIGHT.

BUT I WAS JUST HOPING YOU WILL TAKE THIS, YOU KNOW, AS

RESPECTFULLY AS I CAN SAY IT, AND TO THE MAYOR PARTICULAR,

SHE GOT A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY AND SHE MAY NOT NEED THE

BLACK VOTE.

BUT TO ME, YOU NEED A PEACEFUL CITY IN ORDER TO ATTRACT MORE

PEOPLE.

THANK YOU.

18:58:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL RIGHT.

WE MOVE ONTO THE SECOND AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE, AND THAT IS THE

EAST TAMPA CAC PROCESSES.

IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE CAC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO




THAT?

ABOUT THE PROCESSES?

18:59:00 >> YES.

THIS IS NORENE COPELAND MILLER.

CAN YOU HEAR ME?

18:59:04 >> YES, MA'AM.

18:59:05 >> OKAY.

WE HAVE A PRACTICE, AND WE ARE FILL OUT AND APPLICATION.

WE HAVE A PROCESS WHERE WE WANT TREE TRIMMING DONE, WE FILL

OUT AN APPLICATION.

BUT WHEN WE COME IN FOR THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS, THERE'S NO

APPLICATION, NO PROCESS.

WE BRING PEOPLE INTO THE BOARD TO PRESENT A PowerPoint FOR

THEM.

THERE IS NOTHING TO SAY THE PROCESS.

SO -- (TELEPHONE RINGING) I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS, BECAUSE I HAVE WORKED 40-SOME YEARS

IN GOVERNMENT, AND I WAS TRYING TO SEND YOU ALL MY RESUMÉ OF

MY EXPERIENCES WORKING FOR GOVERNMENT.

BUT I WAS TRAINED, SO WE GET ALL THESE VERBAL REQUESTS FOR

LIKE $190,000 FROM ONE INSTITUTION IN THE COMMUNITY, NO

PAPER WORK, NO APPLICATION, JUST VERBAL REQUEST, AND IT'S

APPROVED.

AND IF YOU DO NOT GO ALONG WITH IT, THEN IT'S A PROBLEM, SHE




MADE, SHE ANGRY.

NO, I AM ABOUT PROCESS.

I AM ABOUT DOCUMENTATION.

BECAUSE BEING A BOARD MEMBER YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO

THIS COMMUNITY.

AND FOR OUR DOLLARS.

I HAVE BEEN PAYING MY TAXES FOR OVER 30 YEARS IN EAST TAMPA

WHERE MY RESIDENCE IS.

I PAY MY PROPERTY TAXES.

I PAY MY -- I'M SURE EVERYBODY ELSE DO, AND I WANT TO MAKE

SURE THAT I AM A RESPONSIBLE PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE VERBALLY ASK FOR MONEY, AND WE

CAN -- (AUDIO DROP)

19:01:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ARE YOU THERE? HELLO?

19:01:10 >>THE CLERK:
MS. MILLER MUTED HERSELF SO SHE JUST NEEDS TO

UNMUTE HERSELF.

19:01:14 >> I'M SORRY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME?

WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME IN THAT ASK FOR A HALF MILLION

DOLLARS.

WE ARE PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND ASK FOR MONEY, AND THEY DON'T

APPLY FOR IT, WHAT'S THE PROCESS? IF THERE ARE APPLICATION

PROCESSES, THE CAC MEMBERS, WE HAVE TO APPLY TO GET $2500

FOR A TREE TRIMMING GRANT, BUT TO GET A HALF MILLION DOLLARS

YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE PROCESS.




A VERBAL REQUEST, AND WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THESE PEOPLE

TO GO TO THE SODA AND BUY A NEWSPAPER, BUY A BAG OF CANDY,

BUT THEY FEEL THEY ARE ENTITLED TO GET MONEY BACK BECAUSE

OUR CAC MANAGER, DIRECTOR, GUARANTEES THEM THAT THEY ARE

ENTITLED.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PROCESS.

BEST PRACTICE, I WAS TRAINED IN GOVERNMENT.

IF IT'S NOT DOCUMENTED, IT DOES NOT HAPPEN. IN EAST TAMPA

WE ARE TAKEN FOR GRANTED.

AND WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT KNOWLEDGE OR EDUCATION TO KNOW

WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR BEST PRACTICE.

I KNOW.

I WORKED ALL MY LIFE.

I HAVE DEDICATED LIVE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE OVER 40 YEARS IN

GOVERNMENT AND I KNOW THAT DOCUMENTATION IS CRITICAL.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN EAST TAMPA.

THAT'S MY CONCERN.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

19:02:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

MS. BURTON.

19:02:43 >> CONNIE BURTON:
HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE IN OUR FUNDING?

HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN THE EAST TAMPA FUNDING ACCOUNT?

HOW MUCH MONEY TOTAL?

TOTAL AMOUNT?

19:02:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. CARLSON?




19:03:21 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
MS. TRAVIS?

19:03:23 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I AM LOOKING AT A SUMMARY REPORT.

SO WE HAVE ABOUT $6.6 MILLION.

I HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE FINANCING AS OF YET.

19:03:37 >>BILL CARLSON:
THE LAST TIME WE ASKED, I THINK MS. VAN

LOAN SAID ALL BUT A MILLION WAS ALLOCATED. DO YOU KNOW,

CEDRIC?

19:03:45 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
ALLOW ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT

HAS BEEN ENCUMBERED, WHAT HAS BEEN EXPENDED AND WHAT

AVAILABLE FUNDS WE HAVE.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CATEGORIZE THE GRANTS

THAT YOU HAVE AND HOW THEY ALIGN TO YOUR REDEVELOPMENT PLANS

SO THAT YOU CAN TRACK THE MONEY AND SEE HOW YOU ARE MEETING

THE GOALS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO IF YOU WILL ALLOW ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH STAFF

AND THE BUDGET TEAM TO DO THAT AND WE CAN PROVIDE THE FULL

REPORT TO YOU.

19:04:15 >>BILL CARLSON:
ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THAT ON THE NEXT

AGENDA?

19:04:21 >> WE HAVE A MEETING ON THE 29th.

19:04:24 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
COULD WE HOLD THE CONVERSATION DOWN TO ONE

PERSON AT A TIME, PLEASE?

19:04:30 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
ALLOW ME TO OPPORTUNITY TO REPORT BACK TO

YOU AT THE NEXT CRA BOARD MEETING.

IF I HAVE IT IN TIME FOR THE CAC MEETING, I WILL BRING IT TO




THE CAC MEETING AS WELL.

BUT I AM A VERY TRANSPARENT PERSON SO I WILL LET YOU KNOW

WHERE I AM AT.

I AM IN THE PROCESS.

AND I WILL LET CAC KNOW.

19:04:53 >> CONNIE BURTON:
THERE'S ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO BE A

CARRYOVER.

BUT THEN WE HAVE, I MEAN, MUST START AT ZERO, BECAUSE WE

HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SPEND MONEY ON PROJECTS AND THINGS THAT

WE WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON.

SO WE NEED TO HAVE A FULL ACCOUNTING OF ALL OF THE RESOURCES

FOR OUR ACCOUNT, AND WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO BE SEE THAT $1

MILLION THAT WAS TAKEN OFF THE TABLE, PUT BACK INTO THE

ACCOUNT.

19:05:26 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THE MILLION DOLLARS THAT IS BEING

REFERENCED IS A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WAS ALLOCATED FROM THE

EAST TAMPA CRA FUNDS TO BE USED FOR THE FAIROAKS PROJECT,

WAS THERE A MOTION TO REALLOCATE THAT MONEY?

19:05:45 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THE MONEY HAS NOT BEEN SPENT.

19:05:50 >> IT IS STILL WITHIN THE BUDGET.

19:05:52 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
IT'S BEEN BUDGETED BUT NOT SPENT.

SO THE MONEY SHOULD BE THERE.

19:05:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO:


[SOUNDING GAVEL]

THANK YOU.




COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

19:06:03 >>BILL CARLSON:
MS. TRAVIS, ONE OTHER THING ABOUT THE

BUDGET.

WHEN WE STARTED THREE YEARS AGO WE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS

ABOUT THE BUDGET, AND WENT THROUGH IN DETAIL TO FIGURE OUT

HOW MUCH MONEY WAS THERE AND HOW MUCH WE COULD ALLOCATE AND

SPEND.

AND THEN WHEN WE THOUGHT THAT ALL OR MOST OF IT HAD BEEN

ALLOCATED AND SUDDENLY DURING COVID THE ADMINISTRATION ASKED

US TO PUT IN I THINK IT WAS $2 MILLION FROM CRA MONEY TOWARD

COVID RELIEF FUND, AND WE ASKED WHERE DID THAT $2 MILLION

COME FROM, NOT JUST FROM EAST TAMPA BUT FROM ALL OF THE CRA

DISTRICTS?

WE SAID WHERE DID THAT $2 MILLION COME FROM?

AND THE ANSWER WAS IT WAS IN THE INTEREST ACCOUNT.

AND I SAT ON A LOT OF BOARDS, I ADVISED A LOT OF COMPANIES,

I HAVE NEVER SEEN SOMEBODY HIDE MONEY IN AN INTEREST

ACCOUNT.

AND SO WE MADE A MOTION TO PUT THAT IN A DIFFERENT KIND OF

ACCOUNT.

I FORGET WHAT WE CALL IT, BUT A RESERVE FUND OR SOMETHING

LIKE THAT.

BUT IT SHOULD BE TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC, IF IT'S IN AN

INTEREST ACCOUNT, PEOPLE THINK THAT IT'S JUST INTEREST FOR

THAT YEAR.




THEY DON'T THINK IT'S A CARRYOVER FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

IT TURNS OUT THERE WAS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SITTING IN

INTEREST ACCOUNTS THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WE COULD ALLOCATE.

SO I WOULD ASK YOU AS YOU GO THROUGH THE BUDGET TO LOOK FOR

ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S KIND OF HIDDEN POCKETS OF MONEY

BECAUSE SUDDENLY DURING COVID $2 MILLION APPEARED THAT NONE

OF US HAD BEEN TOLD EXISTED.

19:07:25 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I WILL DEFINITELY LOOK AT IT.

I KNOW WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, REPORTS, JUST

PREPARING AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PAST CRA MEETINGS, IN

YOUR CRA ANNUAL REPORT, IT SHOWS ON INTEREST BEARING

ACCOUNTS HOW MUCH INCOME YOU HAD FOR THAT, AND THEN IT GETS

ADDED AS A REVENUE.

SO I WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ALL BROKEN DOWN TO YOU WHERE

THE ACCOUNTS ARE.

SO IT IS ACCOUNTED FOR IN YOUR ANNUAL REPORT AS REVENUE.

19:07:50 >>BILL CARLSON:
WE MADE A MOTION TO PUT IT INTO A RESERVE

FUND OR SOME OTHER LABEL OTHER THAN THIS INTEREST SO WE KNOW

WHERE IT IS.

19:07:57 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
OKAY.

19:07:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IN THE CRA RECORDS THAT I HAVE, THE EAST

TAMPA CAC, EXCUSE ME, AS OF THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 2021,

THERE IS $8.5 MILLION.

A LITTLE OVER 8.5 MILLION.

I'M SORRY, GIVE ME ONE SECOND.




I HAD IT BACKWARDS.

EAST TAMPA.

AGAIN, A LITTLE OVER 8.5 MILLION.

19:08:30 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
MS. TATE WAS ASKING WHAT DO WE HAVE NOW.

LET ME GO BACK TO THE BUDGET TEAM.

WHAT I WILL SHOW YOU IS WHAT YOU STARTED THE FISCAL YEAR

WITH, ALL OF YOUR REVENUE --

19:08:53 >> COULD WE HOLD IT DOWN BACK THERE, PLEASE?

[SOUNDING GAVEL]

19:08:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

19:08:59 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WHAT I WILL SHOW YOU IN THE ACCOUNT IS

WHAT WE STARTED THE FISCAL YEAR WITH, ALL REVENUE, SO IF

THERE ARE LEASE PAYMENTS, INTEREST ON THE ACCOUNT, WHAT THE

REVENUE IS, ALL OF YOUR EXPENSES, AND ENCUMBRANCES, SO ANY

PROGRAM DOLLARS, THE CAC OR THE BOARD HAS -- WELL, THE BOARD

HAS TAKEN ACTION ON TO ENCUMBER THAT MONEY SO SPECIFICALLY

FOR PROJECTS, IF YOU HAVE ENCUMBERED THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IT

WILL SHOW ON THE ENCUMBRANCES, I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT THAT

MONEY IS AND HOW MUCH AVAILABLE FUNDS ARE LEFT.

19:09:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ONE SIDE IS WEST TAMPA, THE OTHER SIDE IS

EAST TAMPA.

19:09:32 >> I WAS JUST PROVIDING IT TO MS. TATE SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT

THE YEAR-END REPORT WAS.

THE BUDGET SUMMARY ALSO ONLINE, BUT WE WILL DO IT MONTHLY

REPORTING AND ACCOUNTING AND MAKE THAT A PART OF OUR MONTHLY




REPORTS TO THE CAC, NOT JUST THE EAST TAMPA CRA BUT ALL

TAMPA CACs.

19:10:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
FANTASTIC.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER CAC MEMBERS WHO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE

PROCESS? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

AND MS. TATE, COULD I GET THAT BACK FOR MY PERSONAL -- AFTER

THE MEETING.

AND ACTUALLY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MS. TATE A COPY.

YES, MS. COBB.

19:10:32 >> AS FAR AS ITEM NUMBER 2 FUNDING IN SUBCOMMITTEE, ALSO I

WANT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE EAST TAMPA CAC COMPRISES

A VERY BIG AREA.

JUST OVER THE COURSE OF COVID, COMPARED TO OTHER AREAS,

WHICH WAS ALSO BROUGHT UP IN THE LAST CRA MEETING, WE HAVE

HAD NUMEROUS AMOUNT OF SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS ALONG WITH THE

HIGH TURNOVER OF BOARD MEMBERS.

AND JUST TO REITERATE OF WHAT OTHERS HAVE STATED, I DO

BELIEVE AT THIS MEETING, WE DO NEED TO TAKE INTO

CONSIDERATION THE BYLAWS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, THEY ARE

OUTDATED, SO I AM ASKING LEGAL FROM CITY TO AT LEAST BRING

OUR STANDARDS, THAT WE ARE WORKING IN A SOMEWHAT ABNORMAL

ENVIRONMENT, IF WE COULD BRING OUR STANDARDS TO OUR MEETING

AS CLOSE TO WHAT THE CITY HAS, AS FAR AS ATTENDANCE, AS FAR

AS HOW SUBCOMMITTEES GO, OR IF IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR THE

COMMUNITY, NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE CURRENT BOARD, BECAUSE




I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE THIS EXTREMELY CLEAR THAT THE

CURRENT BOARD THAT IS ON, WE ALL APPLIED, WE ALL HAVE OUR

CRITERIAS AND WE ALL HAVE THINGS TO GET IN.

THOSE WHO APPLIED FOR SUBCOMMITTEES THAT WAS AT THE

DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.

AGAIN, THE BOARD IS WHAT WE HAVE APPLICATION PROCESS, AND IF

YOU ARE ON A SUBCOMMITTEE YOU HAD A CHOICE TO ALSO BE ON THE

BOARD.

JUST A LITTLE PLUG, WE DO HAVE AN OPENING FOR A BOARD

MEMBER.

SO IF YOU HAVE EXPERTISE IN THE AREA THAT WE NEED, PLEASE --

DO YOU HAVE THE APPLICATION WITH YOU RIGHT NOW?

PLEASE GRAB SOME OF THOSE ON YOUR WAY OUT.

AND BACK TO FUNDING, JUST LIKE I DID IN THE PREVIOUS CRA

MEETING, WE HAD A LIST OF ATTAINABLE ITEMS FROM THIS

MEETING.

I ALSO HAVE A LIST OF OBTAINABLE ITEMS.

I HOPE WE WERE ABLE TO GET UPDATES FROM THAT BUT WE DIDN'T

GET IT FROM THAT LAST MEETING.

AS FAR AS A BUDGET UPDATE, OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST

CHAIRS, THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN REQUESTS MADE FOR -- I WOULD

LIKE ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT CAME FROM MS. GOODLEY, MS.

BURTON, AND ALSO THE CURRENT CHAIR, THESE ARE STILL ITEMS

THAT ARE IMPORTANT.

THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY.




THEY HAVE BEEN PASSED BY THE PREVIOUS CAC.

THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP AGAIN.

AND THE FUNDING NEEDS TO BE ADDED BACK TO IT.

AND ALSO ADJUSTED TO THE CURRENT ITEMS ON OUR BUDGET.

SO THAT CAN ALSO BE -- IF THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED AS WELL.

AS FAR AS WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN HERE ABOUT, THE CURRENT

PROGRAM, IF WE CAN ALSO GET MRS. TRAVIS TO LOOK AT THAT AS

WELL.

WE HAVE PROGRAMS THAT WERE ALREADY TOWARD THEM.

IF WE CAN HAVE THEM AS A LINE ITEM COMING UP TO OUR NEXT

BOARD MEETING WHICH I THINK IS ON THE 26th THAT WILL

HAVE US BETTER EQUIPPED TO HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.

19:13:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MS. COBB. MS. GOODLEY.

19:13:34 >> IN REGARD TO THE PROCESSES, EVERYTHING THAT WAS VOTED ON

PREVIOUSLY MAGICALLY DISAPPEARS.

AND NOTHING IS IMPLEMENTED, ALTHOUGH IT WAS ADEQUATELY VOTED

UPON, THE COMMUNITY SAID THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, BUT

EVERYTHING STOPPED.

SO IF WE COULD IMPLEMENT THE PROCESS, THAT REGARDLESS OF WHO

THE CHAIR IS, IF WE SAID WE WANT PURPLE WHATEVER, WE NEED TO

MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

SO EACH TIME IS LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE A NEW CHAIR, WE ARE

STARTING ALL OVER, AND IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR A BRAND NEW

CHAIR TO GET THINGS MOVING, BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT WAS

SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN STOPPED HAPPENING.




THE OTHER THING IS, OVERSIGHT.

IN REGARDS TO SPENDING OUR FUNDS, ONE OF THINGS THAT I

NOTICED WHEN I CAME CHAIR WAS THAT WE WERE SPENDING LARGE

OUNTS OF MONEY ON SOME FRIVOLOUS THINGS.

I GUESS WE WERE PAVING ROADS, DOING THINGS THAT THE CITY

SHOULD BE DOING, BUT EVEN, FOR INSTANCE, WE WERE EXPENDING

MONEY WITH THE SPDC TO PROVIDE BUSINESS CONSULTING SERVICES

FOR EAST TAMPA RESIDENTS, AND WE FOUND OUT THEY WEREN'T

DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT FOR US THAN THEY WERE ALREADY

DOING.

SO ONCE WE STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, WE REALIZED

THAT NOTHING WAS HAPPENING EXCEPT FOR A WELCOME PACKET BEING

SENT OUT WHEN A NEW BUSINESS REGISTERED.

AND WHETHER THEY SENT THE PACKAGE BACK OR ANYTHING, IT'S ALL

UP TO THEM, BUT WE WERE PAYING $35,000 TOWARDS THAT.

SO AGAIN, WE CUT THAT.

THE OTHER THING WAS A NEWSLETTER.

WE HAD A NEWSLETTER THAT WAS GOING OUT FOUR TIMES A YEAR.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF A NEWSLETTER BUT WE WERE PAYING $85,000

FOR FOUR NEWSLETTERS AND THAT'S A LOT OF FUNDING.

SO THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WE CUT.

AND IT WASN'T THAT WE CUT IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T LIKE THE IDEA

OF THE NEWSLETTER.

IT'S FOUR NEWSLETTERS DOESN'T COST $85,000.

AND SO WE WERE NOTICING HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT WAS JUST




CONSTANTLY -- AND AGAIN, REMEMBER, WE DIDN'T CREATE OUR

BUDGET.

WE GOT OUR BUDGET HANDED TO US AND PEOPLE WERE PREVIOUSLY

JUST APPROVING IT.

SO WE STARTED PULLING ALL THOSE THINGS BACK.

THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO MENTION WAS THE INTEREST,

BECAUSE WE LEARNED ABOUT THAT DURING COVID.

AND WE ACTUALLY, EAST TAMPA, WE ACTUALLY VOTED AND TALKED

ABOUT CREATING OUR OWN PROGRAM TO HELP OUR BUSINESSES, WITH

OUR OWN MONEY, AND WE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS, I SAT

DOWN, I DID THINGS, AND MENTIONED IT AT THE MEETING, AND

BEFORE WE COULD VOTE ON IT, WE WERE STOPPED BECAUSE THE CITY

HAD A PROGRAM THAT THEY WANTED TO IMPLEMENT, AND SAID THAT

THE CITY WAS GOING TO USE OUR INTEREST FOR THIS AND THEY

WANTED A HALF MILLION TO A MILLION DOLLARS OF OUR INTEREST

TO DO IT, AND THE PROGRAM THAT I CHAIRED, AND WE ALL AGREED

ON, WE WERE TOLD WE COULD NOT DO, BUT THAT THE CITY'S

PROGRAM WOULD GET MONEY IN THE HANDS OF BUSINESSES BY MAY.

AND THIS WAS AT THE APRIL 2020 MEETING.

I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT I HAVE CLIENTS WHO WERE STILL WAITING

TO GET THE RENT PAID ON THEIR BUSINESS IN OCTOBER OF 2020.

SO THE MONEY DID NOT GO OUT IN MAY, AS YOU ALL KNOW.

THE PROGRAM HAD TO BE REVAMPED SEVERAL TIMES.

I SAID FROM THE BEGINNING THAT NO BUSINESSES WERE GOING TO

BE ABLE TO MEET THE CRITERIA. THE CRITERIA STARTED OUT AT




FIVE YEARS, THEN WENT TO THREE YEARS.

IT WAS NOT ANYTHING CONDUCIVE TO BUSINESSES AND ALL YOU ARE

DOING IS LIMITING THE AMOUNT THAT BUSINESSES ARE ABLE TO

ACCESS.

AND NOW I FIND OUT LATER THAT THE REASON THAT IT WAS THE WAY

IT WAS IS BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME GRANT MONEY, LIKE ASK

$300,000 IN GRANT MONEY WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS

OF OTHER.

WE COULD HAVE EASILY DONE THAT THE WAY WE WANTED TO.

BUT AGAIN ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW WE SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE

WANT TO DO TO GET THE HANDS OF FUNDS IN OUR BUSINESSES HANDS

AND WE WERE TOLD, NO.

EVEN PAYING FOR UTILITIES.

AT FIRST IT WAS JUST ELECTRIC AND WATER.

AND I PUSHED BACK AND SAID, WHY IS IT NOT INCLUDING ALL

UTILITIES?

I WAS TOLD THAT LEGALLY WE COULD NOT ADD, AND I PUSHED BACK

AND SAID, UTILITIES INCLUDES PHONE.

UTILITIES INCLUDES INTERNET.

WHY ARE WE PAYING WATER WHEN WE KNOW GOES BACK TO THE CITY

OF TAMPA?

YOU ARE PAYING ELECTRIC WHICH IS TECO WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH

THE CITY OF TAMPA.

BUT ANY OTHER UTILITY WOULD BE IGNORED.

AND SO EVENTUALLY, AGAIN, WE GOT TO WHERE WE AGREED TO PAY




THEM.

SO ALSO WITH MARKETING, WE REALIZED THAT NONE OF OUR

PROGRAMS WERE BEING MARKETED, AND SO WE DECIDED THAT WE

WANTED TO BRING ON A MARKETING PERSON.

SO WE VOTED, AND IT WAS APPROVED, THAT WE WOULD HIRE A

MARKETING PERSON, BUT WE GOT PUSHBACK BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD

THE CITY OF TAMPA MARKETING DEPARTMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE

MARKETING OUR PROGRAMS, AND THEY CAN DO IT.

THE CITY OF TAMPA HAD NOT PROMOTED ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS YET,

AND I DON'T THINK THEY PROMOTE MOST OF THE CRA PROGRAMS.

SO HERE WE HAD A SOLUTION, AND WE HAD THE FUNDING, BUT WE

STILL WEREN'T ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THAT.

SO PART OF THE PROCESS I AM ASKING FOR IS MORE OVERSIGHT,

BECAUSE WE CAN SEE IT, AND WE CAN CALL IT OUT TO YOU, BUT IF

YOU ALL ARE ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT'S

GOING ON, YOU ALL CAN ALSO PROVIDE THAT OVERSIGHT, BECAUSE

JUST AS WAS STATED, I BELIEVE, BY MR. HILL -- I AM NOT SURE

WHO SAID IT -- BUT WE ARE TOLD WE JUST MADE RECOMMENDATIONS

AND IT'S UP TO YOU ALL TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISIONS.

BUT WE HAVE BEEN MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT GO NOWHERE.

SO THAT'S MY CONCERN OF SOME OF THE PROCESSES.

19:19:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

19:19:34 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A QUESTION.

[SOUNDING GAVEL]

19:19:37 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING YOU




JUST MENTIONED AT THE TOP OF YOUR COMMENTS, ON HOW EVERY

SINGLE -- WITHIN TWO YEARS, YOUR CHAIR KEEPS TURNING OVER.

BUT I NOTICED THAT YOU AREN'T ON THE CAC ANYMORE.

SO IS THERE A REASON THAT FORMER CHAIRS DON'T STAY ON AS A

REQUIREMENT FOR TWO MORE YEARS?

19:20:04 >> IT'S NEVER BEEN ANYTHING THAT'S IN OUR BYLAWS THAT THE

FORMER CHAIR REMAINS ON.

19:20:08 >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL?

19:20:11 >> I THINK IT DEFINITELY WOULD BE HELPFUL.

19:20:14 >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT FOR BYLAW

CHANGES TO HELP KEEP SOME OF THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE,

NOT -- OKAY.

YEAH.

BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS SAYING, SOMETHING I'M

ALLOWED TO SAY.

I'M STILL LEARNING.

BUT, YES, BECAUSE NOT JUST TAKE AWAY FROM NEW IDEAS, BUT

EVERY ORGANIZATION I KNOW THAT'S SUCCESSFUL KEEPS THEIR

INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE TO SOME DEGREE.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO -- I KNOW SOMEBODY ELSE MENTIONED REDOING

SOME BYLAWS, AND I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT HOW

WE RETAIN ONE OR TWO MEMBERS, HOWEVER YOU ALL BELIEVE IT

WOULD BE BEST, TO KEEP THAT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE.

19:21:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

19:21:05 >>BILL CARLSON:
MS. GOODLEY, YOU SAID 85,000 FOR FOUR




NEWSLETTERS.

DID YOU MEAN FOUR DIFFERENT NEWSLETTERS THAT GO OUT

REGULARLY OR ONE NEWSLETTER FOUR TIMES?

19:21:17 >> ONE NEWSLETTER FOUR TIMES.

IT WAS MAILED OUT.

WE HAVE LIKE A STANDARD JUST OPEN FOLDER THING.

AND IT WAS EVERYTHING WAS WRITTEN.

AND EVERYTHING WAS WRITTEN FOR US.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.

BUT $85,000 IN MY OPINION WAS TOO MUCH.

SO ONCE I BECAME CHAIR YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF THINGS WERE

TAKEN OUT AND IT WAS BECAUSE I FELT THAT THIS WAS

RIDICULOUS, AND WE WEREN'T GOING TO SPEND MONEY LIKE THAT.

19:21:43 >>BILL CARLSON:
AND JUST ONE THING FOR MS. TRAVIS.

YOU HEARD AGAIN FEEDBACK ABOUT INTERFACING WITH THE CITY.

AND MAYBE I TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY BUT I THINK OF US AS A

ENTREPRENEURIAL RELATED ORGANIZATION.

WE ARE SMALL, COMPACT, WE SHOULD BE NIMBLE AND BE ABLE TO

MOVE QUICKLY.

BUT THE CITY IS SLOW TO MOVE AND SLOB TO CHANGE.

THAT THERE'S A LOT OF BUREAUCRACY AND THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS

LIKE PURCHASING AND MAYBE HIRING THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH

THE CITY, OR AT LEAST FOLLOW THE POLICIES OF THE CITY.

BUT IF THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT IS ORGANIZED AROUND

PROMOTING THE MAYOR, WE NEED A COMMUNICATION VEHICLE TO




PROMOTE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE CITY SO THE COMMUNITY KNOWS

ABOUT IT, AND IF IT'S FASTER AND CHEAPER FOR US TO OUTSOURCE

IT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO OUTSOURCE AND WE SHOULD DO THAT.

WE SHOULDN'T JUST RELY ON CITY STAFF, ESPECIALLY IF THERE

ARE TRANSFER PAYMENTS GOING ON WHERE WE ARE SUBSIDIZING CITY

DEPARTMENTS BY PAYING HIGH TECH PRICES, LIKE 85,000 FOR A

NEWSLETTER.

19:22:42 >> THE CHAIR DURING MY TIME, I GUESS THEY BROUGHT BACK THE

CHAIR MEETING SO SEVERAL OF THE CRAs GOT TOGETHER AND SAID

WE POSSIBLY MIGHT LOOK INTO HIRING A MARKETING FIRM AND WE

ARE ALL UTILIZING IT AND SHARING IT.

BUT AGAIN, ONCE CHAIRS CHANGE, THEN WE ACT LIKE THAT NEVER

HAPPENED, WE DIDN'T VOTE ON IT, AND IT JUST GOES INTO

NO-MAN'S LAND.

19:23:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.

19:23:06 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR. I WANTED TO COMMEND OUR

COLLEAGUE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WHO SAID YOU WERE JUST

LEARNING.

I WANTED TO COMMEND YOU FOR THE WORK YOU DID WITH SECRETARY

OF AGRICULTURE. IF YOU ARE JUST -- AND THIS GETS TO THE

BOTTOM OF REALLY ONE OF THE THINGS I AM GOING TO SAY, WHICH

I THINK ALL SEVEN OF US WHO ARE HERE HAVE A REAL PASSION FOR

EAST TAMPA AND FOR MAKING SURE THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE

BEEN LEFT BEHIND FOR TOO LONG ARE NO LONGER LEFT BEHIND.

PART OF THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK




SORT OF FORMS A LOT OF THE FRUSTRATION THAT WE ARE SEEING

HERE, I ALWAYS SAY WHENEVER THERE'S A CATEGORY ONE HURRICANE

IN THE CITY, DISADVANTAGED AND MARGINALIZED AREAS HAVE A

CATEGORY 3 OR 4 HURRICANE.

IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF HURRICANES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND

IN FLORIDA.

THAT INCLUDES INFLATION.

INFLATION IS ABOUT 8% HIGHER I THINK IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA,

IT'S 10 OR 11%.

WE HAVE HOUSING, 27% INCREASE IN RENTAL COSTS OVER THE LAST

YEAR.

GAS, WELL OVER $4 GOING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE CRAs BASIC IDEA, OR PURPOSE IS

TO MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITIES HAVE THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED

TO MAKE IT INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS, TO MAKE IT TO THE WORKING

CLASS, RIGHT, THAT FIGHT IS GETTING HARDER AND HARDER AND

HARDER.

BUT I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT ALL SEVEN OF US DO HAVE A REAL

HEART FOR EAST TAMPA, AND WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH EVERY

PERSON IN THIS ROOM TO MAKE SURE THAT WRONGS GET MADE RIGHT,

RIGHT?

AND THAT COMMUNITIES DO HAVE A PATHWAY TO THE MIDDLE CLASS,

110%.

I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOK FORWARD ON VOTING NEXT




MONTH, YOU DON'T THINK IT'S CONTROVERSIAL, I KNOW WE PUSHED

IT, BUT THE SKILLS CENTER.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO SEE IN EAST TAMPA IS TO

INVEST IN TRAINING.

TRAINING SO THAT YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WANT A PATHWAY TO THE

MIDDLE CLASS, RIGHT, CAN GET IT.

PART OF THE PROBLEM IS, WE PASSED AND APPRENTICESHIP

ORDINANCE A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO AND ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE

YOU CAN MAKE 50, 60, $70,000 BEING A WELDER, PLUMBER,

ELECTRICIAN. TAKE A LOOK AT THE COST OF LIVING WHERE DOES

50, 60, 70,000 TAKE YOU IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?

THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE MIDDLE CLASS IS GETTING

FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY FROM PEOPLE AS AN ASPIRATION

BECAUSE THOSE BASIC NECESSITATES OF LIFE ARE JUST

SKYROCKETING IN FLORIDA.

IT'S TERRIBLE BUT ESPECIALLY HURTS THE LOWER INCOME

COMMUNITIES.

SO JUST SOME THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.

19:25:35 >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.

JUST TO TALK, TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS

TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS, AND WHAT YOU, MS. GOODLEY, MENTIONED

ABOUT HAVING THE -- ABOUT TALKING ABOUT MEDIA PREPARATION OR

MARKETING.

AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR MY IGNORANCE BUT WE DON'T HAVE A CRA




STAFFER WHO DEALS WITH MARKETING?

19:26:07 >> WE JUST GOT ONE.

19:26:08 >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.

BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST PERSON

THAT I WOULD HIRE.

SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

OKAY.

THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

19:26:17 >> WE WANTED OUR OWN.

BUT THEN WE HAD NONE.

SO IT'S GOOD TO HAVE OUR OWN.

SO NOW WE HAVE A CHAIR.

19:26:30 >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT THE THING ABOUT HAVING YOUR OWN, TOO, IT

DOESN'T PRECLUDE YOU FROM GETTING -- FROM HAVING A

CONSULTANT TO DO SOME EXTRA THINGS, TOO.

19:26:38 >> BUT WE CAN'T GET THE MONEY TO SPEND TO GET THE PERSON.

19:26:41 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I SEE.

19:26:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. GOODLEY, THANK YOU.

TO MS. HURTAK'S POINT, BETWEEN YOU, MS. BURTON AND MRS.

TATE, YOU HAVE A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE THROUGH THESE

PRESIDENTS.

IS YOUR BOARD HAVING SUCCESSIONS OF PEOPLE COMING UP BEHIND

YOU THAT HAVE THIS WEALTH, THAT ISN'T GOING TO START ANEW

EACH TIME A PRESIDENT COMES IN?

IE, MEANING, YOU HAVE A LONG-TERM VISION AND GOAL WHERE




PLANS ARE ALREADY SET IN, AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR FIVE-YEAR

GOAL SO THAT WHEN PRESIDENTS COME AND GO, THERE ARE STILL

THE BASIC WANTS AND NEEDS AND GOALS ARE ALREADY SET FORTH,

SO THAT THE NEXT GROUP OF PRESIDENTS COME IN SETS THEIR

GOALS FOR THE FUTURE.

MS. TATE, I'M SORRY, I SHOULD BE DIRECTING THIS TO YOU. IS

THIS IN YOUR PLANS NOW?

19:27:39 >> FRAN TATE:
THAT WAS MY VISION FROM THE BEGINNING.

MRS. BURTON IS STILL ON THE BOARD.

I HOPE AND PRAY THAT SHE REMAINS.

WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ELECTIONS OF SIX BOARD MEMBERS.

BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.

ALL OF YOU ARE RIGHT.

WE NEED TO MAINTAIN, IRREGARDLESS OF HOW WE FEEL ABOUT ONE

ANOTHER, WE HAVE GOT TO GET OVER OUR FEELINGS, BUT SHE'S

BUSY IN HER CAREER BUT I KNOW I CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON HER IF I

HAVE A QUESTION OR ANYTHING.

SHE'S SERVING ON ONE OF THE STANDING COMMITTEES.

CONNIE BURTON AS I STATED IS STILL ON THE BOARD.

I'M ON THE BOARD.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT.

SO THAT YOU DON'T GET LOST, AND YOU ARE NOT THERE TRYING TO

FIGURE OUT, OH, MY GOD, WHERE DO I GO, HOW DO I GET THERE?

I UNDERSTOOD THEY WERE WORKING ON A HOUSING REHAB. I DIDN'T

SAY SCRATCH IT, LET'S NOT WORRY ABOUT IT.




I'M FIGHTING FOR IT BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE THAT.

AND IT WAS STARTED WITH NATASHA.

CONNIE KEPT IT GOING.

I WANT TO KEEP IT GOING. I WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

SO I AM NOT IN HERE PUSHING AWAY THE THOUGHTS AND IDEAS OF

PREVIOUS CHAIRWOMEN.

I AM EMBRACING THEM AND I AM SITTING AT THEIR FEET.

I AM LEARNING.

19:28:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IT'S THAT MENTORSHIP PROGRAM THAT WHEN YOU

FIRST COME ON THE BOARD, YOU SHOULD BE LEARNING FROM THE

PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE.

19:29:07 >> MOST DEFINITELY.

19:29:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AND KEEP THAT KNOWLEDGE GOING.

19:29:11 >> BUT IT'S DIFFICULT YOU BECAUSE IF YOU ARE CHAIR FOR A

YEAR, AS I MENTIONED THE TREE TRIMMING GRANT TOOK A YEAR AND

A HALF.

SO IF I WEREN'T REELECTED, IT WOULD HAVE FELL OFF TOO

BECAUSE IT TOOK A YEAR AND A HALF TO GET IMPLEMENTED.

SO EVEN IF YOU HAVE IDEAS OF TWO, THREE, FOUR YEARS IN

ADVANCE, IF YOU DON'T GET REELECTED AS CHAIR, NOTHING GETS

PUSHED THROUGH.

SO AGAIN THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

19:29:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OR UNLESS THE WHOLE CAC BOARD GETS TOGETHER

AND SAYS THIS IS OUR PLAN FOR FIVE YEARS, THIS IS OUR PLAN

FOR TEN YEARS, THIS IS OUR SHORT-TERM GOALS.




OKAY, WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE PROCESS.

YES, MA'AM.

19:29:50 >> MY NAME IS DENESE JONES.

AND I AM A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA, RETIRED FROM THE

STATE OF FLORIDA FOR 32 YEARS, AND I HAVE BEEN A VOLUNTEER

ON THE COMMUNITY FOR 40 YEARS.

SOME OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID.

YOU WANTED TO REEMPHASIZE THE FACT IT MAY APPEAR WE ARE NOT

DOING A WHOLE LOT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A TURNOVER.

AND WHEN THAT TURNOVER STARTS, LIKE YOU SAID, AND LIKE

SOMEONE ELSE HAS ALREADY SAID, THAT PERSON STARTS OVER.

SO THERE OUGHT TO BE A WAY THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT SOMETHING,

THAT PROCESS CAN CONTINUE WITH THE NEXT PERSON.

A PERFECT EXAMPLE, ONE, THE SKILLS CENTER.

I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE SKILLS CENTER.

THEY HAVE TAKEN OVER A ROLE IN A BUILDING THAT'S BEEN THERE

100 YEARS, AND JUST BEEN SITTING DORMANT.

AND THEY SAW THE NEED TO UTILIZE THAT AND BRING IN OTHER

NONPROFITS TO SUPPORT THEM, AND THEY CAME TO US AND ASKED

FOR MONEY, AND I MADE THE NOMINATION AFTER WE DID SOME

RESEARCH.

IT WASN'T A ONE-TIME SHOT.

THEY CAME MORE THAN ONE TIME AND PRESENTED US WITH

LITERATURE, AND MATERIAL.

AND IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD THING.




WELL, WHAT WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN IS SOME SUGGESTED THAT WE

GIVE THEM 250,000 THIS YEAR, 250,000 NEXT YEAR, WHICH MEANT

THOSE PEOPLE COMING IN NEW, MAY DECIDE THAT THAT'S NOT A

GOOD USE OF THEIR MONEY WHEN THEY COME IN, WHY DO WE HAVE

THAT COMMITMENT?

SO I SUGGESTED, SINCE WE -- THE MONEY WAS THERE, THAT WE GO

AHEAD AND GIVE THEM THE $500,000. WHY HAVE MONEY JUST BEING

CARRIED OVER WHEN IT COULD BE USED?

THAT WAS MY THOUGHT ON IT.

AND IT SEEMED TO WORK, AND I HOPE THAT THAT'S -- THAT THAT'S

GOING TO BE A SUCCESSFUL VENUE.

THE OTHER THING, WE HAVE A LOT OF MOMENTUM GOING TONIGHT.

I GUESS YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

SO I AM HOPING THAT IT WON'T TAKE -- MAYBE WE CAN MEET

TOGETHER ON A REGULAR BASIS, MAYBE QUARTERLY OR SOMETHING

LIKE THAT, SO THAT IT MAY NOT TAKE AS MUCH TIME BUT YOU WILL

HEAR WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS.

AND I HOPE ALSO THAT WE WILL GET THE MINUTES FROM THIS SO

THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT WAS SUGGESTED, AND THAT OUR IDEAS

REQUEST HEARD, AND IT'S IN PRINT FOR FOLLOW-UP.

BUT I HAVE MORE THINGS TO SAY BUT SOMEONE ELSE HAS ALREADY

DONE IT, SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

19:32:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.

19:32:29 >> JUST BRIEFLY, TO FOLLOW UP, CLINT PARIS AGAIN, I SERVE ON

THE BOARD.




WE RECEIVED AN E-MAIL TODAY WITH A CURRENT BUDGET, AND ON

IT, IT STATES THAT THE AVAILABLE FUNDS FOR OUR CRA IS

$14,411,000.

THAT'S WHAT IT STATES.

SO LET'S GET THAT OUT THERE.

QUICKLY ON THE PROCESSES.

I HAVE SAID EARLIER, I MAY NOT BE THE SMARTEST GUY, BUT, YOU

KNOW, I CAN GET IT.

AND THERE WAS AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT WAS

THROWN AT THE NEW BOARD, THE CAC COMMITTEE IN A SHORT PERIOD

OF TIME, SO THE PROCESS OF ACTUALLY INDOCTRINATED, FROM

ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER TO THE BACKGROUND STATUTE THAT

APPLIES TO US, TO HOW EAST TAMPA IS SITUATED, BECAUSE IT'S A

VERY UNIQUE ANIMAL.

JUST LIKE YOU ARE AS A POLITICIAN.

I GET ELECTED BY THE COMMUNITY. IF WE DON'T DO THE JOB THEY

ELECTED US TO DO, WE GET VOTED OUT IN TWO YEARS.

THAT'S PART OF THE TRANSMISSION COMPONENT.

SO IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT ANIMAL TO SOME OF THE OTHER CRAs

WHERE YOU GET TO KIND OF PICK AND CHOOSE WHO GETS TO BE

THERE.

IN THIS SITUATION, THE CITIZENS DECIDE IN EAST TAMPA, OR THE

MEMBERS OF THE PARTNERSHIP, DECIDE WHO GETS TO SERVE.

SO FROM THAT COMPONENT OF IT, THERE CAN EASILY BE A LOT OF

BRAND NEW PEOPLE COMING IN WHO ARE JUST CONCERNED AND




PASSIONATE ABOUT COMMUNITY.

SO I RECOMMEND THAT YOU ESTABLISH YOUR OWN CITY OF TAMPA CRA

UNIVERSITY, AND THAT IS WHERE YOU HAVE A CURRICULUM FOR

TRAINING, INDOCTRINATING NEW MEMBERS WHO ARE ELECTED ON

EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THEIR CRA SO THEY KNOW HOW

AND WHAT TO DO.

WE WERE THROWN IN AND THERE WERE SOME PowerPointS, AND IT

FLEW BY REALLY QUICKLY.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS THIS.

THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF TRANSITION DOCUMENT.

I WILL SAY A BINDER OR PACKET THAT SAYS HERE ARE THE

PROJECTS, AND THINGS THAT ARE IN THE BOOKS, AND THIS IS

WHERE THEY ARE, AND SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHEN YOU

START HEARING THE REPORTS SO YOU CAN COME UP TO SPEED.

WE KIND OF SAT DORMANT, WHEN THE GENTLEMAN THAT LEFT,

JOHNSON, WHEN ED JOHNSON LEFT, AND THEN SHORTLY THEREAFTER,

THERE WAS SOME TURNOVER IN STAFF.

SO WE WERE KIND OF IN NO-MAN'S LAND BECAUSE THE PEOPLE

COMING TO TRY TO TELL US WHAT WAS GOING ON, THEY DIDN'T HAVE

ANY KNOWLEDGE EITHER.

THEY WERE BASICALLY STANDING UP, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT'S

A SIGNIFICANT COMPONENT FROM A POLICY AND PROCEDURE.

AT THE SKILLS CENTER WE GET AN UNUSUAL REQUEST THAT COMES

OUT OF LEFT FIELD, KIND OF OUT OF NO WHERE, BUT EVERYBODY

KNOWS THIS IS SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.




THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE

COMMUNITY GETS STOPPED BECAUSE WE THOUGHT ENOUGH IN ADVANCE

TO HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE IT MOVES ALONG.

WE NEED TO ANTICIPATE SOME OF THESE LARGER ITEMS, THAT $14

MILLION THERE.

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME TRY TO GET THAT MONEY.

THAT'S JUST THE REALITY.

THEY ARE GOING TO COME HARD AND THEY ARE COMING AT YOU ALL,

TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THAT MONEY.

WE NEED TO ANTICIPATE LARGE-DOLLAR REQUESTS COMING, AND IF

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT PROCESS FOR HOW WE LOOK AT

THOSE COMPARED TO THE MUCH SMALLER REQUESTS THAT COME

THROUGH.

SO FROM A POLICY PROCEDURES STANDPOINT, I THINK WE REALLY

NEED TO LOOK AT, ASKING YOU ALL YOU HAVE THE POWER TO DIRECT

STAFF TO IMPLEMENT A MORE COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO HOW

INFORMATION IS PASSED ALONG, AND HOW WE GO ABOUT MAKING OUR

DECISION. THANK YOU.

19:36:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN HURTAK.

19:36:27 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M SORRY.

MR. PARIS?

19:36:30 >> YES.

19:36:32 >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, YOU TALKED ABOUT -- THIS GOES BACK TO

THIS RETAINING INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING LOOKING AT BYLAWS.




DO YOU THINK --

19:36:42 >> I'M SORRY, WE DON'T HAVE BYLAWS.

19:36:44 >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH.

SO YOU WANT TO CREATE SOME BYLAWS?

19:36:49 >> WE DON'T HAVE BYLAWS, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD, WE FOLLOW THE

SAME GUIDELINES THAT YOU ALL FOLLOW.

THE BYLAWS APPLY TO THE PARTNERSHIP WHICH IS THE UNDERLYING

ORGANIZATION THAT EXISTED BEFORE THE CRA CAME INTO PLACE.

19:37:04 >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO THESE UNDERLYING -- THESE UNDERLYING

RULES, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT REQUIRE YOU TO ELECT PEOPLE

EVERY TWO YEARS?

19:37:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
CAN WE HEAR FROM MR. MASSEY?

19:37:17 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THIS GOES TO MR. PARIS' POINT.

I THINK MR. GUDES WILL ALSO WEIGH IN.

EAST TAMPA -- LET ME -- THE CACs ARE A CREATURE OF CRA

POLICY.

THEY ARE NOT MANDATED BY LAW.

BUT THE CRA DECIDED THAT THEY WANT TO FORM THESE COMMITTEES,

REDEVELOPMENT AREAS, SO THEY CAN GET COMMUNITY INPUT ON HOW

THE CRA FUNDS WERE SPENT IN THAT AREA.

MOST OF THE CRA, CACS, ARE SET UP WHERE THERE ARE

REPRESENTATIVES, GROUPS THAT SIT WITH MEMBERS TO IT SO YOU

HAVE SOME CONTINUITY, BECAUSE YOU HAVE PLACES WITH DOWNTOWN

PARTNERSHIP THAT SENDS SOMEBODY, THAT DREW PARK,

HILLSBOROUGH COMMUNITY COLLEGE, AVIATION AUTHORITY, AND WEST




TAMPA, AND SOME OF THE OTHER CRAS, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS HAVE

A DESIGNATED SEAT ON THE CAC.

EAST TAMPA AND YBOR ARE THE TWO OUTLIERS FROM THAT.

BY YOUR POLICY, THE EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP SERVES -- THE

BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE PARTNERSHIP SERVES AS THE CAC.

AND SO YOU ALL HAVE, BY YOUR POLICY AND RULES, BASICALLY

SAID, OKAY, WHOEVER IS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE

PARTNERSHIP IS GOING TO ACT AS THE EAST TAMPA CAC, AND THE

RULES THAT THEY FALL UNDER, I THINK ABOUT HALF THEIR BOARD

ROLLS OFF, THEY HAVE VOTES EVERY YEAR AND ABOUT HALF THE

POSITIONS ARE OPEN EVERY YEAR WHICH LEADS TO THIS LARGE

TURNOVER.

SO PART OF THIS, I GUESS, IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK BECAUSE THE

PARTNERSHIP IS A LEGAL ENTITY, NOT A CITY OF TAMPA ENTITY,

WE HAVE NOT DICTATED TO THE PARTNERSHIP HOW THEY MAKE THOSE

ELECTIONS.

WHAT THEY DO IS THEY SUBMIT THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS NAMES

TO YOU ALL, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH THOSE NAMES,

THEN YOU VOICE THOSE CONCERNS, BUT OTHERWISE, YOU BASICALLY

ACCEDED TO THE MEMBERS OF THEIR BOARD, AND WHOEVER IS

ELECTED AS THEIR CHAIR.

AND THAT IS HOW THE HISTORY OF EAST TAMPA HAS WORKED OUT.

SO THAT IS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU ARE HEARING ABOUT THE

TURNOVER.

I JUST WANT TO LAY THAT OUT.




19:39:43 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

19:39:45 >> MR. CHAIR, HAD THIS IS NORENE COPELAND MILLER, IF I MAY

SPEAK.

19:39:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MA'AM, PLEASE, GO AHEAD.

19:39:51 >> OKAY.

AS I LOOK AT EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY UTILIZATION PARTNERSHIP,

THE ETCR, WE HAVE BYLAWS.

THOSE BYLAWS, THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ARE IN THE

AUDIENCE, AND THEY ARE ELECTED FROM THE COMMUNITY TO

PARTICIPATE AS THE CAC MEMBERS.

SO WE ARE GOVERNED UNDER THOSE BYLAWS BY THE EAST TAMPA

COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION PARTNERSHIP, WHICH A COUPLE OF

MONTHS AGO WE HAD ASKED THE MANAGER McCRAY IF HE WOULD

CHECK WITH CITY ATTORNEY TO SEE IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET A

501(C)3 AND REPORT BACK TO THE PARTNERSHIP, BECAUSE THAT

WILL GIVE US THE ABILITY TO -- WHATEVER, SO PEOPLE ARE CAC.

SO WE DO HAVE BYLAWS, BUT IT IS THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY

REVITALIZATION PARTNERSHIP BYLAWS THAT WE ARE GOVERNED BY,

THE CAC IN EAST TAMPA.

AND A LOT OF TIMES WE GET AWAY FROM THE BYLAWS BECAUSE

THAT'S WHERE THE COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES VOTED ON TO COME

AND REPRESENT US AS CAC.

SO THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY, FOR BRINGING THAT OUT.

BUT THERE ARE BYLAWS IN PLACE, AND ATTORNEY PARIS IS

FAMILIAR WITH THOSE BYLAWS, BUT THEY ARE REVITALIZATION




PARTNERSHIP BYLAWS TO BE GOVERNED BY.

AND WE TALK ABOUT GOVERNANCE.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOVERNED BY.

19:41:38 >> THANK YOU.

JUST BRIEFLY, THE FACT THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS VOTE, WHO GETS

TO SERVE ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD FOR THE PARTNERSHIP, AND

THEREBY RECOMMENDED TO SIT ON THE CAC GIVES THE COMMUNITY AN

IMMENSE OF POWER IN DETERMINING WHO SITS ON THE CAC.

YOU KNOW, IT'S THE BASIS OF DEMOCRACY.

IT'S VERY POWERFUL, BUT IT ALSO MAKES US VERY DEPENDENT ON

EXPERTISE. NO DIFFERENT THAN YOU ALL.

AND YOU ALL BRING WHAT YOU BRING TO YOUR POSITION, WHERE YOU

HAVE THE BACKUP OF ALL THE CITY STAFF.

THAT IS ACTUALLY ANSWERABLE TO YOU.

SO FROM A PROCESSING STANDPOINT, IT HAS TO BE MUCH MORE

ROBUST FROM ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, TO HOW INFORMATION GETS

COMMUNICATED, HOW IT'S TRANSITIONED TO NEW MEMBERS WHEN THEY

COME IN.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE PROCEDURES

THAT WE NEED TO DEVELOP.

19:42:41 >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOT YOU.

19:42:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I SAID THIS FROM DAY ONE, BECAUSE I SAT ON

THIS BOARD.

AND, TWO, WE LOOK AT HOW TO CHANGE THAT PROCESS, WE ARE

GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS.




WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SEVEN, EIGHT PEOPLE CHANGING AT

ONE TIME ON A BOARD, YOU BRING NO CONTINUITY TO THE BOARD.

YOU HAVE A NEW GROUP THAT AREN'T KNOWLEDGEABLE.

YOU LOOK AT WEST TAMPA'S MODEL.

THEY HAVE SPECIFIC SLOTS, LOOKING FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE WITH

EXPERTISE TO BE ON THAT BOARD.

THAT'S WHY THEY CAN MOVE AND DO CERTAIN THINGS.

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING A COMMUNITY VOTE BUT YOU

NEED TO DESIGNATE CERTAIN SPOTS ON THAT BOARD, CERTAIN

NUMBER OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS FROM THE BOARD.

NOW YOU HAVE YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE WITH

EXPERTISE TO MAKE UP THAT 13-MEMBER BOARD.

BUT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, I'M CHANGING NINE PEOPLE AT ONE TIME

ON A BOARD WHO HAVE NO EXPERTISE, WHO HAVE A LEARNING CURVE,

IT TAKES YOU ALMOST A YEAR TO EVEN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CAC

IS ABOUT.

THAT'S JUST THE FACTS OF THAT.

AND I HAVE SAID THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN BUT THEN WE GET

INTO POLITICAL STUFF, OH, WE DON'T WANT TO UPSET THE PEOPLE.

NO, IT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE WE FUNCTION TO HELP THE

PEOPLE.

I UNDERSTAND IT BETTER.

I'M WITH THEM.

I'VE SAT ON THE BOARD.

AND TO BE ABLE TO MOVE EAST TAMPA, MR. PARIS IS RIGHT.




THERE AREN'T ANY BYLAWS.

WE HAVE THE PARTNERSHIP BYLAWS, AND MOST PEOPLE GET CONFUSED

ON WHAT THE CAC IS AND WHAT THE PARTNERSHIP IS.

SO UNTIL YOU FIX THE PROBLEM, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO

HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.

SO NOW, MS. TRAVIS BEING WITH EXPERTISE NOW IS GOING TO COME

A TIME TO WHERE I THINK NOW WE TALK ABOUT A RESET, AND NOW

WE RESET THAT 13-MEMBER BOARD OF HOW IT SHOULD BE COMPOSED

AND MADE UP TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF EACH COMMUNITY,

WHATEVER, AND THEN YOU HAVE EXPERTISE MEMBERS FROM THAT

COMMUNITY.

NOW WE ARE TALKING.

YOU KEEP YOUR CONSISTENCY TO WHERE YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

STAYS ON THE BOARD AND DOESN'T JUST LEAVE BECAUSE OF THE

CONTINUITY.

AND NOW WHAT USED TO HAPPEN OR HOW THAT HAPPENED, I COULD

TALK TO THE CHAIRMAN, BECAUSE I GO TO THE CHAIRMAN AND SAY,

THIS IS WHAT GOES ON, HERE IS WHAT WE DID.

SO I THINK WHAT MS. TRAVIS AND MR. McCRAY, WE DO A RESET

SO NOW WE REFOCUS ON HOW TO RESET UP EAST TAMPA TO A WAY

IT'S GOING TO BE STRONGER AND UPLIFT.

THE COMMUNITY IS IMPORTANT, BUT ALSO A HUGE BOARD, 13

MEMBERS, AND IF YOU TAKE AND YOU LOSE NINE AT ONE TIME, YOU

LOSE A LOT OF THE KNOWLEDGE.

19:45:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.




19:45:38 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER GUDES

ON THIS.

BUT YET I UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY'S DESIRE TO CHOOSE THEIR

MEMBERS.

I JUST CAME FROM SITTING ON THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD, AND

WE HAD AN OPEN TREE ARBORIST POSITION BECAUSE WE COULDN'T

FIND ANYBODY TO FILL IT, WHO LIVES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND

DIDN'T HAVE A TON OF CONFLICTS.

SO I ALSO SEE A PROBLEM WITH HAVING A SPECIFIC SEAT, IN A

WAY.

SO MAYBE A WAY TO MITIGATE THAT IS TO EXTEND THOSE TERMS TO

THREE YEARS, OR FOUR YEARS.

I MEAN, THREE YEARS WOULD AT LEAST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF

COMFORT.

OR MAYBE -- AND IF YOU DID THREE YEARS YOU WOULD BE CHANGING

A THIRD OF THE BOARD INSTEAD OF HALF OF THE BOARD.

SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT KEEPING THE SYSTEM

YOU HAVE, BUT KEEPING THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE FOR AS

LONG AS POSSIBLE.

ANOTHER THING I MIGHT RECOMMEND IS A VICE CHAIR WHO THEN

PLANS TO MOVE INTO THE CHAIR POSITION.

19:46:49 >> WE HAVE.

19:46:52 >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, YOU DO?

BUT THEY DON'T IMMEDIATELY GO INTO THE CHAIR POSITION,

THOUGH?




19:46:57 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]

19:47:00 >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY TRANSITION.

19:47:02 >> NO.

19:47:04 >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.

19:47:04 >> CONNIE BURTON:
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THIS.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD PROBABLY JUST SAY TO

COUNCILMAN GUDES PRIVATELY.

I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH WE HAVE ASKED FOR PROFESSIONAL SKILLED

PEOPLE TO CAM BACK HOME.

GUESS WHAT.

THEY HAVEN'T CAME BACK HOME.

WE HAVE BEEN BEGGING.

I BETTER TURN AROUND.

[ LAUGHTER ]

WE HAVE A FEW LOYAL PEOPLE THAT'S WILLING TO BE WITH THE

REST OF THE WORKERS.

AND THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT.

BUT THAT THIS COMMUNITY IS ABLE TO ASK JUST FOR SMALL ITEMS,

THAT'S A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.

SO I WOULD JUST HOPE YOU DON'T LOSE SIGHT THAT IF WE GOT

PEOPLE FROM -- BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT GOES ON IN THIS

CITY, NOT YOU ALL, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT JOBS, THAT HAPPEN

TO CERTAIN PROFESSIONAL BLACK FOLKS, ON MY SIDE OF THE

TRACKS, AND THAT'S REAL.




BUT THE PEOPLE THAT'S COMMITTED TO HAVE A BASIC

UNDERSTANDING, THAT WE CAN BRING DIGNITY, CREATING WEALTH,

GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY, I AM GOING TO SAY THIS.

I WAS IN WASHINGTON, D.C. ONE TIME, AND I DIDN'T KNOW VERY

MUCH ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE NEWSPAPER SAYING ABOUT

ME, AT THE TIME MARION BARRY.

AND I SAID NO WAY THEY SHOULD HAVE THAT MAN.

I DON'T KNOW HOW HE GOT OUT OF D.C. ALIVE.

BECAUSE COMMON EVERYDAY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WORK, THEY WAS

ASSURED OF A JOB THROUGH PROGRAMS THAT WAS SET ASIDE FOR

THAT COMMUNITY.

AND WE HAVE JUST GOT TO GET BACK TO THAT.

AND THAT'S THE PROCESS OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE LEARNING, WHEN

THEY CAN SEE PROFESSIONAL BLACK FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY,

PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY COME

BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY TO ASSIST THEM.

RIGHT NOW WE JUST GOT A BUNDLE OF HOPELESSNESS AND IT DON'T

MATTER HOW MANY POLICE OFFICERS WE CALL OUT THERE, IT HAS

NOT BEEN ABLE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

THANK YOU.

19:49:14 >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

19:49:19 >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT.

BEFORE EVERYBODY LEAVES, I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO

IS VOLUNTEERING FOR THIS BOARD.

EVERYBODY WHO STOOD UP IS SO IMPRESSIVE. I SAT ON A COUPLE




OF THE CAC BOARD MEETINGS BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD YOUR VOICES AS

I HAVE TONIGHT.

AND OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE GOT A LOT OF VERY TALENTED

PROFESSIONALS WITH DEEP EXPERTISE, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR

PUTTING IN YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

AND AT THE CAC MEETINGS.

AND IT MAKES IT DOUBLY, TRIPLY FRUSTRATING THAT WE HAVEN'T

BEEN ABLE TO DELIVER FOR YOU, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

BUT ALSO, IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO MEET INDIVIDUALLY, I THINK

YOU CAN'T MEET TOGETHER BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE JUST LIKE WE

CAN'T MEET TOGETHER, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO GET TO KNOW YOU

BETTER AND KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT YOUR IDEAS ARE.

I AM ONE OF ONLY ONE OF SEVEN SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO MEET WITH

THE OTHER SIX.

BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT YOUR IDEAS.

THANK YOU.

19:50:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. TRAVIS.

19:50:17 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
MS. BURTON SAYS WE'RE IN A CLOUD OF

HOPELESSNESS, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT'S NOT TRUE.

AND SO LET ME JUST SAY THIS.

REDEVELOPMENT WORK IS HARD.

IT'S DIFFICULT.

AND IT TAKES A LONG TIME.

BUT IF YOU HAVE A PLAN AND YOU HAVE COMMITMENT FROM THE

COMMUNITY, AND FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IMPLEMENTING BOOTS ON




THE GROUND, TO DO THE WORK, IT WILL HAPPEN.

IT TAKES TIME, AND IT TAKES PATIENCE.

BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE US DEVELOPING A RELATIONSHIP WITH

EACH OTHER OF TRUST AND OPEN COMMUNICATION.

WE ARE NOT GOING -- STAFF DOES NOT HAVE ALL OF THE IDEAS.

WE DO NOT HAVE ALL OF THE IDEAS.

THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE IDEAS

BECAUSE THEY KNOW, THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR GRANDKIDS ARE GOING

THROUGH, THEY KNOW WHAT THE NEIGHBORS IS GOING THROUGH, AND

THE NEEDS ARE IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO SHALL ABLE TO LISTEN, GET THE

INFORMATION AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET PROGRAMS IN PLACE

AND HOW WE CAN MAKE CHANGE.

SO I AM HOPEFUL.

I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.

THE GOVERNANCE PIECE IS A BIG PART OF IT.

IT'S A BIG PART OF THE TRANSITION.

I HAVE DONE IT BEFORE.

I THINK WE CAN DO IT AGAIN WHERE YOU PUT THE BYLAWS IN PLACE

AND YOU CAN HAVE THAT CONTINUE KNOT OF SERVICE, AND THE

WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE THAT COMES ALONG WITH PULLING THAT CHAIR

POSITION.

WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS A FEW MONTHS OUT PROBABLY HAVING A

RETREAT OF SOME SORT WITH THE CAC MEMBERS AND THE

PARTNERSHIP MEMBERS, AND JUST PUT IN A DIFFERENT




ENVIRONMENT, JUST GETTING OUT OF OUR NORMAL ENVIRONMENT,

PUTTING SOME PAPER ON THE WALL POSTS AND KIND OF BRAIN

FORMING STORMING SOME OF THIS STUFF, WHAT WORKS, WHAT DIDN'T

WORK, HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND DELIVERING A PLAN AND

RECOMMENDATIONS TO COME FOR THE CAC TO CONSIDER AND TO COME

BACK TO THE CAC BOARD TO CONSIDER APPROVE AND ADOPT.

THERE IS A LOT OF MASSAGING AND TRUST THAT NEEDS TO BE

REESTABLISHED HERE.

AND THE COMMUNITY IS WILLING TO DO THE WORK, THE

ADMINISTRATION IS WILLING TO DO THE WORK, I AM WILLING TO DO

THE WORK.

AND SO I WOULD RECOMMEND -- I AM GOING TO COME TO THE EAST

TAMPA CRA AND TALK -- WE HAVE LUNCH ON MONDAY, I BELIEVE --

TO JUST DO A RETREAT, AND MAYBE A TWO-DAY RETREAT WHERE WE

TALK ABOUT GOVERNANCE POLICIES, PROGRAMS, APPLICATIONS,

INTAKE, SOME OF THE PROCEDURAL THINGS, AND ALSO FORWARD

LOOKING.

WHAT IS THAT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN?

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE NEED SHORT TERM, MIDTERM,

LONG-TERM, WORK TOWARDS?

SO I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THAT.

THANK YOU.

19:53:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

19:53:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MS. TRAVIS, WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS.

AND ALSO, YOUR REPUTATION AND EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILMEMBER




CITRO MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING WHERE WE DISCUSSED YOU IN

THIS INTERIM POSITION, UNTIL THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

YOU KNOW, THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN WAITING NOT DECADES, I

THINK GENERATIONS, AND WE JUST NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EQUITY.

THE REST OF THE CITY FLOURISHES, OR A LOT OF THE CITY

FLOURISHES, BUT EAST TAMPA STAYS BEHIND AND IT'S VERY

FRUSTRATING.

WE ARE HEARING THE COMMUNITY.

WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT THESE IDEAS AND NEW POLICIES.

YOU WILL HAVE MY SUPPORT.

WE NEED TO STOP WASTING TIME.

I THINK YOU ARE THE RIGHT PERSON AT THE RIGHT TIME.

I HAVE FAITH IN YOU.

YOUR REPUTATION SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

YOU WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN OTHER CITIES IN LAKELAND.

I WANT YOU TO BRING THOSE IDEAS HERE.

I BELIEVE IN YOU AND I KNOW THAT WE CAN GET THINGS GOING.

BUT WE HAVE TO END THIS FRUSTRATION.

THE COMMUNITY IS BEGGING WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BEG,

BECAUSE THE REST OF THE CITY, IT'S WORKING OUT FOR THEM, BUT

HERE WE ARE FROZEN IN TIME INSTEAD OF MOVING FORWARD.

SO YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT.

THIS COMMUNITY HAS MY SUPPORT.

AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THE OTHER SIX COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN HELP




MOVE EVERYTHING FORWARD.

THANK YOU.

19:54:38 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THANK YOU.

19:54:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST WANT TO ECHO, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT

I SAT HERE AND LISTENED, AND I WROTE DOWN -- I DON'T KNOW IF

I WILL BE ABLE TO READ IT BUT I WROTE EVERYTHING WHAT

EVERYONE SAID, AND MEMORIZE WHAT'S HAPPENED.

AND THERE'S BEEN SO MANY INDIVIDUAL CAME UP WITH BRILLIANT

IDEAS.

AND I DON'T NOTICE IF THERE'S A DISCONNECT.

IT'S LIKE A CAR THAT'S GOT A NEW ENGINE BUT THE BATTERY

WON'T START.

EVERYTHING IS NEW IN THE CAR BUT WE DON'T HAVE A BATTERY.

AND I AM PUTTING THINGS INTO PERSPECTIVE FOR WHAT I GATHERED

FROM THE CONVERSATION.

I CERTAINLY BELIEVE -- AND MRS. TRAVIS, SHE HAS DONE, IN MY

SHORT PERIOD OF TIME IN KNOWING HER, HAS A REPUTATION IN

LAKELAND, IT WAS JUST SUPER, AND I THINK SHE'S GOING TO DO

THE JOB THAT ALL OF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

I SEE A LOT OF IDEAS, AND I SEE ALSO CONFLICT AMONG SOME OF

THE IDEAS.

NOT ALL OF THEM BUT SOME.

VERY FEW OF THEM.

AND I THINK GOING FORWARD IT'S GOT TO HAPPEN.

YOU CANNOT STAY STILL BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT GOING UP, YOU ARE




GOING DOWN THEN.

NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE OR WHERE YOU COME FROM, YOU HAVE GOT

TO HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AND THE SAME THINGS.

I WANT TO -- NICOLE TRAVIS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION

WE GET IS 100% CORRECT, AND THAT YOU WILL GET THE SAME

REPORT FROM HER THAT WE GET THAT'S 100% CORRECT.

I AM NOT ONE THAT LAKES TO FOOL AROUND TOO MUCH.

I LIKE TO SEE NUMBERS.

I LIKE TO SEE PROGRESS WITHIN THOSE NUMBERS.

AND MONEY IN THE BANK DOESN'T GIVE YOU ANYTHING.

YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH IT.

IT MAKES NO SENSE IN HAVING MONEY IN THE BANK AND YOU SEE NO

PROGRESS.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS I AM LOOKING FOR AND LET'S SEE WHAT

HAPPENS.

AND I THINK IN ABOUT TWO OR THREE MONTHS WHEN MS. TRAVIS

GETS ON THE GROUND RUNNING YOU ARE GOING TO SEE A BIG

CHANGE.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SEE ALL THE NEIGHBORS HERE AND REALLY

HAVE THE SAME FOCUS WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS HOW TO GET THERE.

19:56:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

JUST VERY QUICKLY, MR. MASSEY, I SEE THAT ONE OF THE CAC

MEMBERS HAS LEFT.




I PARTICULARLY DON'T CARE IF THEY DON'T HAVE A QUORUM.

I WOULD STILL LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THIS.

19:56:58 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
WELL, THIS IS A JOINT MEETING OF THE TWO

BODIES.

SO TECHNICALLY THERE SHOULD BE A QUORUM, I GUESS.

IF YOU WANT TO NOT TAKE ANY ACTION TONIGHT, IF YOU WANT TO

CONTINUE THE HEARING, BUT ON VARIOUS ITEMS WE CAN DO THAT.

19:57:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCIL, HOW DO YOU FEEL?

19:57:18 >> I'M CONFUSED.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING FOR THE CRA TO

MEET WITH --

19:57:28 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
A SPECIAL JOINT MEETING OF THE CRA AND CAC

SO THAT REQUIRES A QUORUM OF BOTH BODIES.

19:57:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
AS LONG AS WE ARE NOT VOTING ON AN ISSUE

WE CAN STILL PROCEED.

19:57:43 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
YOU CAN HAVE DISCUSSION.

19:57:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OKAY, FINE.

LET'S GO.

WE HAVE GOT THREE MORE AGENDA ITEMS.

JUST TO SIMPLIFY THINGS, IF WE WANT TO COMBINE THEM, OR IF

YOU WANT TO KEEP THEM SEPARATE.

I AM HERE ALL NIGHT IF YOU WANT.

I KNOW SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE FAMILY AND THEY WANT TO GO

HOME.

BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COMBINE ALL THREE OF THE ITEMS,




DISCUSS WHATEVER ELSE IS ON THE CAC MEMBERS' MIND.

THEN I HEARD ONE VOICE.

LET'S GO WITH PROGRAMS AND GRANTS.

ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, CAC MEMBERS?

PROGRAM AND GRANTS.

19:58:30 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS NORENE COPELAND MILLER.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY -- AND I DO THANK CITY COUNCILMAN

CARLSON, AND I THANK YOU ALL OF YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY

TO LOOK AT APPLICATIONS FOR DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.

I HAVE A PROBLEM ONCE AGAIN, I WILL SAY THAT AGAIN TO YOU,

THE PERSON THAT WORKED WITH GOVERNMENT AND I WAS TRAINED,

AND TOO OFTEN IN TAMPA WE GET VERBAL REQUESTS, THERE'S NO

APPLICATION IN DOLLARS, THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS DISBURSED TO

OUR ORGANIZATION, AND THERE'S NO PAPER TRAIL.

SO MY THING IS, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO LOOK

AT THAT PROCESS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE BEST

PRACTICES AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE

BEST USE OF OUR DOLLARS, TAX DOLLARS THAT I PAY FOR MY HOME

AND ALL OF THAT.

IT IN EAST TAMPA.

THAT IS MY THING.

AND I HAVE -- IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL FOR THE SKILLS CENTER,

FOR ANY ORGANIZATION.

I JUST WANT WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY.




WE DESERVE TO BE TREATED AS ANY COMMUNITY IN TAMPA.

I WAS RAISED IN SOUTH TAMPA.

BUT EAST TAMPA IS STUCK IN A LOOP BECAUSE WE CANNOT AGREE ON

ANYTHING BECAUSE WE ARE IN A PROCESS TO GET GRANT DOLLARS

FOR OUR ZIP CODES, BUT NONE OF THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.

THE SKILLS CENTER, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THEM.

I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR THE SERVICES THAT MR. WARD AND

MS. CORIATO PROVIDE, BUT ROBERT AND MICHELLE VAN LOAN WERE

AT A MEETING LAST YEAR AT THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BUDGET

COMMITTEE, AND THEY NEVER SHARED WITH US UNTIL TWO MONTHS

AGO.

SO I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HONESTY, WITH INTEGRITY, WAND

REALLY DOING THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO BEFORE.

WHATEVER IS GOING ON IN EAST TAMPA, I WOULD LIKE THE CITY

ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT THE PROCESSES GOING ON IN EAST TAMPA, SO

WE CAN SEE WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN EAST TAMPA.

BUT I AM CONFIDENT WITH DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING DISBURSED,

190,000, AND HALF A MILLION, 500,000, AND $3 MILLION.

WHAT IS GOING ON IN EAST TAMPA, THAT WE ARE NOT WORTHY OF

DESERVING AS ANY OTHER COMMUNITY IN THIS CITY?

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

AND I WANT TO BE A PERSON THAT TAKES YOU AT FACE VALUE.

RIGHT NOW I AM CONCERNED THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS BEING

DECEIVED, LIED TO, AND JUST NOT BEING TREATED FAIRLY.

SO THAT IS MY THING.




I REALLY WANT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO LOOK IN AND FOLLOW THE

MONEY TO SEE WHAT IS DID REALLY GOING ON IN EAST TAMPA.

IT'S A LOT OF BACK DEALS GOING ON.

ROBERT AND MICHELLE BEING IN A MEETING LAST YEAR ABOUT A

PROJECT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS AND NOW WE COME UP

WITH A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO WHATEVER, OR 22ND STREET.

THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME.

WE HAVE MUCH MORE NEEDS IN EAST TAMPA AND THAT'S NOT ONE OF

THEM.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME.

20:02:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MS. COBB.

20:03:01 >>DOMINIQUE COBB:
AS FAR AS ITEM NUMBER 3, EXISTING

PROBLEMS, AGAIN, LET'S START OFF WITH EXISTING PROGRAMS.

IN THE LAST FEW SESSIONS WE HAVE APPROVED, WHICH WE APPROVED

IN OUR CAC IMPLEMENTATION OF PROGRAMS, BUT ALSO I WOULD LIKE

AN INVENTORY AND A REQUESTED UPDATE OF ALL OF THE PROGRAMS

THAT WE HAVE SENT TO STAFF.

AND ALSO WHO ARE THE STAFFS THAT ARE WORKING ON IT?

AGAIN, WE HAVE THOSE PROGRAMS IN EXISTENCE.

BUT CAN WE HAVE A TALLY OF THAT AS WELL?

AS FAR AS NEW AND IN-PROGRESS PROGRAMS AND GRANTS, WHILE

BEING ON THE CAC BOARD, I HAVE REQUESTED THAT WE PROVIDE FOR

SOME OF THE VPA PROGRAMS TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.

I WAS ADVISED THAT THE CITY DID ACQUIRE ONE OF THOSE.




BUT I AM REQUESTING THAT FOR EAST TAMPA, SEEING AS THIS AREA

IS A REVITALIZATION AREA, WE CAN HAVE OUR OWN ENTITIES TO

LOOK INTO THAT, AS WE ARE INVESTING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS

THAT WE CAN REPROGRAM AND LOOK FOR OUR EDUCATIONAL AND JOB

FORCE PROGRAMS.

AS FAR AS PROPOSED PROGRAMS TO STRENGTHEN EAST TAMPA, I KNOW

THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER SIDE DEALS.

COMPANIES GETTING MONEY FOR ENTREPRENEURSHIP.

EAST TAMPA NEEDS ITS OWN ENTITY TO HELP GROW SMALL

BUSINESSES.

WE HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF SMALL BUSINESSES IN EAST TAMPA

THAT HAS BEEN HERE FOR 20-PLUS YEARS AND THE MARGIN HAS NOT

MOVED IN THOSE AREAS.

SO I REQUESTED NOT SOMEONE FROM THE CITY STAFF BUT ALSO

INDIVIDUAL COMPANY TO COME IN AND KIND OF ASSESS WHAT THE

ISSUE IS.

SPEAKING BACK TO WHAT WAS SAID BY THE WEST TAMPA, I CAN'T

REMEMBER HIS NAME, SO SPEAK TO WHAT HE WAS SAYING, WE ARE AT

A DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE UP-TO-DATE STATISTICS

THAT GO ALONG WITH WHAT OUR AREA NEED.

SO I DO BELIEVE WE NEED VIABLE STUDIES THAT CAN -- I'M

SORRY, VIABLE STUDIES THAT SHOW WHAT PROGRAMS ARE NEEDED.

YES, WE COULD SAY WHAT WE NEED, BUT STATISTICALLY, IN THIS

AREA WE NEED A LOT OF THINGS, GOING FROM TECHNOLOGY INSIDE

TO SMALL BUSINESSES, SO AGAIN WE NEED A SCOPE FOR THAT,




WHICH WAS 2,000, THE OUTDATED PLAN, NOT SAP.

AGAIN FOR PROPOSED GRANTS AND PROGRAMS, AGAIN, I BELIEVE IN

MS. TRAVIS' WORK AND I HAVE FOLLOWED YOU FOR SUCH A LONG

TIME.

WE NEED THE BACKUP OF THAT.

AND I BELIEVE SHE'S ABLE TO GET THAT.

SO LET'S GIVE HER ROOM TO DO THAT.

BUT AGAIN LET'S -- WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HOLD, HOW DO I SAY,

I DON'T WANT TO PASS THIS ALONG TO THE CAC TO JUDGE ON.

I BELIEVE IT'S THE CRA AND WE USE THE FUNDS ALLOCATED TO OUR

BUDGET.

THANK YOU.

20:06:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

MS. GOODLEY.

20:06:06 >> GOODLEY:
SO AS YOU HEARD, WHAT DOMINIQUE WENT OVER WERE

THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE.

BUT FOR YEARS WE HAD NO PROGRAMS HAPPENING.

AND THIS IS NOT TO BLAME BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF YOU WEREN'T

THERE, BUT NO ONE EVER SAID ANYTHING FROM THE CRA BOARD OF

HOW THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO PROGRAMS IN EAST TAMPA.

WHEN I BECAME CHAIR WE STARTED TO WORK TO CREATE PROGRAMS

AND PUT THINGS TOGETHER, BUT LIKE I SAID, FOR SUCH A LONG

TIME WE HAD NOTHING.

NOW, I HAVE LEARNED HOW DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, AND THAT'S NOT

HAPPENING, BECAUSE WHEN YOU WANT TO BUILD A BIG PARK ON THE




ROUGH OR ANYTHING ELSE, YOU ACQUIRE LAND, YOU PACKAGE IT UP,

YOU SHOP IT TO BIG DEVELOPERS, YOU TELL PEOPLE, THIS IS THE

CITY'S VISION, AND THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE SEE

HAPPEN.

AND OTHER PEOPLE START SAYING DEVELOPERS AND EVERYONE ELSE

SAYS, HEY, I CAN DO THIS.

THAT'S NOT HAPPENING FOR EAST TAMPA.

NO ONE IS PUTTING TOGETHER A PLAN SAYING WE WOULD LIKE TO

SEE A SHOPPING PLAZA HERE, AND THIS IS THE LAND THAT WE

HAVE, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO COME IN AND DO IT.

THAT'S HOW DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS.

THAT'S NOT HAPPENING IN EAST TAMPA.

AS WE ALL KNOW, WE ARE IN A FOOD DESERT.

OUR GROCERY STORES ARE ONLY ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF OUR

NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY WHICH WAS ONE OF

THE DRIVING FORCES FOR ME WHEN BECOMING CHAIR WAS TO TRY TO

BRING A GROCERY STORE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY THE PROCESS THAT I WENT THROUGH TO TRY TO

GET THIS GROCERY STORE IS SOMETHING THAT A PAID PERSON

WORKING FOR THE CITY SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING.

AS EVERYONE KNOWS THE CAC IS A VOLUNTEER POSITION BUT I GOT

WITH A DEVELOPER, DID A RIDE-ALONG WITH THEM, I PULLED THE

DEMOGRAPHICS FOR THE CITY IN THE AREA, I FOUND OUT WHAT

COULD WE EVEN -- EVEN HAVE THE DEMOGRAPHICS TO BRING IN A




PUBLIX, AND THEN WHAT WOULD THEY SAY?

THAT'S NOT WHAT A VOLUNTEER IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

THAT IS WHAT A PAID STAFF MEMBER SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING.

BUT IT HAD NEVER BEEN DONE.

AND THE STAFF DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE MET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A

GROCERY STORE.

THE DEMOGRAPHICS, WE HAVE, BUT THE LOOK, WE DIDN'T HAVE,

BECAUSE THEY SAID IT LOOKED TOO BAD.

YOU HAVE GOT BOARDED UP BUILDINGS.

YOU HAVE GOT GARBAGE SITTING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

YOU HAVE GOT TO CLEAN UP.

YOU HAVE GOT OVERGROWTH.

SO THAT CHANGED THE FOCUS OF TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP WHEN IF

WE WERE ACTUALLY PACKAGING THIS FOR A DEVELOPMENT IDEA, ALL

OF THAT WOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE.

BUT ALL OF THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPENING FROM THE CITY.

NOW, I AM JUST HEARING THE GRANT HAS JUST GOTTEN APPROVED

BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP WHEN I WAS CHAIR.

I HAVEN'T BEEN CHAIR SINCE OCTOBER 2020.

THERE IS NO WAY THAT A PROGRAM THAT I PUT TOGETHER IS BEING

IMPLEMENTED IN 2022.

AND IT'S JUST TO HAVE -- YOU GOT JUNK, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE

IT.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT WAS HAND IN HAND WITH THE TREE

TRIMMING GRANT.




THAT JUST TELLS YOU HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR THINGS TO HAPPEN.

I GAVE UP ON IT.

I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS EVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO JUST HEARING THAT, OH MY GOD, IF THAT'S THE ONE I'M

THINKING IT IS, IT'S THE SAME GRANT.

LASTLY, WE HAD A TASK FORCE TOGETHER FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL

POND ON 26th AND 26th.

BECAUSE WE WANTED TO CREATE SOME DEVELOPMENT THERE.

I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANOTHER MEETING.

THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE HAPPENING.

IT JUST FELL OFF, DISAPPEARED, AND NOTHING ELSE WAS

HAPPENING WITH IT.

WE WANTED TO ACTUALLY UTILIZE THE PROPERTY PROBABLY FOR SOME

TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, EVEN POSSIBLY FOR A GROCERY STORE.

AND THE ONLY REASON IT WAS BROUGHT UP AS A GROCERY STORE IS

BECAUSE QUESTION I DID THE RIDE-ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPER, HE

SAID THIS IS AN IDEAL LOCATION, MAYBE NOT FOR PUBLIX, BUT

THIS WOULD BE AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR A GROCERY STORE IF YOU

WENT AHEAD AND DID SOME OF THE THINGS NEEDED FOR THE

ENVIRONMENTAL POND.

NOW, WE WERE TOLD, OH, WE CAN'T BUILD ON IT, BECAUSE IT'S

CONNECTED TO THE SYSTEM, AND WE NEED THIS, AND THEN WE

DISCOVERED ALL OF THAT WAS FALSE, BECAUSE THAT BOND IS STEPS

FROM MY HOME, AND THAT POND HAS BEEN DRY FOR PROBABLY THE

FIRST EIGHT YEARS THAT I HAVE LIVED THERE, AND IT'S SO DRY




THAT A FIRE BROKE OUT THERE AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD TO

COME AND PUT IT OUT.

NO WATER.

AFTER WE STARTED THE MEETING AND AFTER I STARTED PUSHING FOR

DEVELOPMENT AT THAT LOCATION, THEN THE CITY BROUGHT OUT

CREWS TO START WORKING ON THAT AREA, AND THEY PUT OUT SO

MANY TONS OF GARBAGE THAT IT LITERALLY TOOK DAYS OF DUMP

TRUCKS JUST TAKING AWAY GARBAGE FROM THAT ENVIRONMENTAL

POND.

AFTER REMOVING HUNDREDS OF TONS OF GARBAGE, NOW THERE'S

WATER IN IT.

SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL ANYONE, THAT THAT RETENTION POND IS

NOT NEEDED, BECAUSE IF IT WAS NEEDED, YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN

FOR THE PAST 8, POSSIBLY 20 YEARS, THAT IT WASN'T EVEN

WORKING BECAUSE IT HAD 100 TONS OF GARBAGE IN IT.

SO WE COULD BUILD SOMETHING THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND WE OWN THE ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT'S ON 22ND STREET.

SO THE IDEA IS YOU NOW HAVE FRONTAGE, AND YOU STILL HAVE A

LARGE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY.

THAT'S THE LARGEST RETENTION POND IN TAMPA.

AND IT HAS THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF LAND AROUND THE RETENTION

POND THAT WE ALL KNOW NOW SERVES NO PURPOSE BECAUSE IT'S

BEEN BLOCKED UP FOR YEARS.

SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE PROGRAMS.

WE NEED YOU ALL TO SAY, HEY, WE KNOW YOU ALL NEED A GROCERY




STORE.

LET'S HELP PACKAGE THIS THE SAME WAY YOU WOULD PACKAGE HOW

JULIAN B. LANE PARK WAS PACK AND, THE SAME WAY THE RIVERWALK

WAS PACKAGED.

PACKAGE OUR THINGS, SEND IT OUT TO DEVELOPERS AND LET'S GET

SOMETHING COMING IN.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GET DEVELOPMENT IS IF

A PRIVATE PERSON BUYS A PRIVATE BUILDING AND PUTS THEIR OWN

PRIVATE BUSINESS IN IT.

AND THAT'S NOT HOW YOU GET DEVELOPMENT THAT WE NEED IN OUR

LOCATION.

THANK YOU.

20:12:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN GUDES.

20:12:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT SO-CALLED RETENTION POND OR

ENVIRONMENTAL POND, ALMOST 14.

I MADE A MOTION TWICE ON THAT ISSUE.

AGAIN, GENTLEMEN, SOME OF THE CONCERNS, WHEN I WAS ON THAT

BOARD, THAT'S WHEN I GOT ON COUNCIL, YOU SEE THE FRUSTRATION

OF THE COMMUNITY.

SOME OF THESE IDEAS, THEN WE JUST HAVEN'T TAKEN THE EXTRA

STEPS TO TRY TO GET THEM DOWN OR WORK ON.

SO YOU, MS. GOODLEY, MS. BURTON, MRS. TATE, YOU PUT SOME

IDEAS OUT THERE AND WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF GETTING

THEM DONE.




SO MS. TRAVIS AND MR. McCRAY WILL PUSH THE ENVELOPE.

20:13:11 >> WE HAVEN'T MET IN PROBABLY TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS.

20:13:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THERE WAS A USF TASK FORCE ON THAT, WASN'T

THERE?

20:13:18 >> NO, THEY WERE JUST VOLUNTEERING.

IT WAS A COMMUNITY TASK FORCE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD

ASSOCIATIONS THAT SURROUNDED THE AREA WITH SOME OF THE

CHURCHES IN THE AREA AND COMMUNITY PEOPLE TO DISCUSS WHAT WE

WANTED, HOW WE COULD DO IT, AND THEN WE JUST -- COVID CAME.

WE STOPPED MEETING.

AND THEN ONCE WE STARTED HAVING MEETINGS AGAIN, THE TASK

FORCE WAS NEVER BROUGHT BACK UP.

20:13:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.

20:13:42 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.

BEFORE, THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS MADE ON GRANTS.

I THINK IF DONE RIGHT WITH THE PROPER VETTING, ET CETERA,

THAT GRANTS CAN BE A REALLY GOOD THING.

I MENTIONED THE SKILLS CENTER.

THIS THURSDAY AT CITY COUNCIL, WEARING OUR CITY COUNCIL

HATS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RETURNING CITIZENS, AND ONE OF

THE THINGS TRYING TO GET THE CITY OF TAMPA TO DO IS TO

PARTNER UP WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WORKING WITH COUNTY

COMMISSIONER GWEN MYERS ON THIS FOR A TEST PILOT PROGRAM FOR

APPRENTICESHIPS FOR RETURNING CITIZENS, PEOPLE WHO WERE

LEAVING, INCARCERATION AND PRISON, WANT TO WORK HARD FOR




THEIR FAMILIES AND ACQUIRE THE SKILLS THEY NEED TO BE

INDEPENDENT AND SUCCESSFUL.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE CRA BE ABLE TO INVEST POTENTIALLY

OBVIOUSLY IN TALKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, ET CETERA, MONEY ON

THAT.

YOU TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT GOES TO A BLIGHTED

COMMUNITIES, AND TO ME, THE PURPOSE OF CRAs, THAT COULD BE

A GOOD GRANT POTENTIAL.

THEY HAVE SOME GREAT ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA

THAT REALLY DO GOD'S WORK, IN MY OPINION, ON THAT ISSUE.

MS. TRAVIS, I WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT IF I MAY.

I JUST THOUGHT, HEY, LET'S GET CRA INVOLVED, TOO.

AND WITH REGARDS TO A GROCERY FOR SOMETHING THAT MS. GOODLEY

WAS TALKING ABOUT IN EAST TAMPA, I THINK WE WOULD ALL LOVE

TO SEE THAT, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME SORT OF A GOAL.

MAYBE WE CAN -- I DON'T WANT TO GIVE A TIME FRAME BUT

SOMETHING.

(TELEPHONE RINGS)

WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE A STORE IN EAST TAMPA THAT'S GOING TO

BE VIABLE AND A REAL VIABLE GOAL.

SO JUST SOME THOUGHTS IN THAT REGARD.

THANK YOU.

20:15:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON?

20:15:22 >>BILL CARLSON:
THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE VERY FRUSTRATING

BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS ORGANIZATION,




AND WHETHER YOU MAKE SHOULD MAKE ALL THE DECISIONS OR

WHETHER WE SHOULD RUBBER STAMP TWICE A MONTH OR WHETHER TO

HAVE EIGHT HOURS TO GET INTO THIS FROM A LEGAL POINT OF

VIEW, WE ARE COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE.

AND IF THE CITY STAFF IS HOLDING US UP OR IF WE HAVE OUR OWN

STAFF THAT THE CITY IS GIVING US, WE HAVE GOT TO FIX THESE

PROBLEMS.

THE REASON WHY THE TREE PROGRAM WORKED IS BECAUSE ONE OF THE

BOARD MEMBERS PERSONALLY LET IT THROUGH, PUSHED IT, AND IF

ALL OF US TAKE ON THESE PROJECTS, IF WE WORK ON IT TOGETHER,

WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD.

I SIT ON NONPROFIT BOARDS WHERE I GET MORE OF A BRIEFING

FROM STAFF THAN I DO ON THE CRA BOARD, EVEN AS VICE CHAIR.

AND WE NEED TO NOT ONLY LISTEN TO ALL OF THIS BUT WE NEED TO

ACTIVELY MANAGE IT, AND IF THE STAFF ASSIGNED TO US BY THE

CITY IS NOT DOING THE WORK WE NEED TO GET DIFFERENT STAFF.

IF THE CITY STAFF IS NOT PARTNERING WITH OUR PEOPLE, THEN WE

NEED TO ASK FOR THAT TO CHANGE. IF THEY ARE NOT WORKING

THEN WE NEED TO OUTSOURCE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

BUT ULTIMATELY WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

WE CAN'T BLAME ADMINISTRATION IF THIS DOESN'T WORK, EVEN IF

THE STAFF AND THE CITY IS CAUSING THE PROBLEMS, BECAUSE

ULTIMATELY WE ARE RESPONSIBLE.

YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO FIX THIS.

THANK YOU.




20:16:44 >> MY COMMENTS WILL REALLY PIGGYBACK OFF OF MR. CARLSON.

I THINK THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LACK OF PROGRAMMING IN EAST

TAMPA, BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN ENOUGH ADMINISTRATIVE

SUPPORT.

WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, ALL OF THE PROGRAMMING THAT SHOULD

TAKE PLACE IS WRAPPED AROUND HAVING AN RFP.

AND THEN WE WILL HEAR SOMEONE SAY, WHAT WAS GOING TO WRITE

THE RFP?

IF WE ARE WAITING ON CITY STAFF, THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN.

I KEEP HEARING MS. TRAVIS, SHE'S ONLY ONE PERSON.

IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HEAR ABOUT THE LEVEL OF SUPPORT THAT

SHE WILL RECEIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ACTION ITEMS THAT WE

ARE PUTTING FORWARD, THAT ACTUALLY HAVE LEGS IN THEM.

SO I THINK WE WILL HAVE MORE PROGRAMMING IN EAST TAMPA IF WE

HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT TO WRITE UP THOSE PROGRAMS.

FOR EXAMPLE, I TALKED TO OUR BOARD ABOUT OUR EAST TAMPA

LEADERSHIP ACADEMY.

THAT WAS ONLY SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE I LEARNED AND RESEARCHED

HOW TO WRITE AN RFP.

THERE ARE MANY PROGRAMS THAT HAVE GONE DORMANT, THEY HAVE

REMAINED ON THE TABLE, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD THE

ASSISTANCE ON WRITING RFPs FOR IT TO COME TO THIS BOARD

FOR APPROVAL.

SO IF WE HAD ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA

THAT IS SKILLED AND VERSED IN WRITING RFPs, COMPARED TO




THE PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE EXHIBITING FOR, I THINK WE WILL SEE

A LOT MORE ACTION IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CRA BOARD SOMEHOW INITIATE MORE

OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT FOR US THAT AS PROGRAMS COME

ALONG, SOMEONE CAN COME ALONGSIDE OF US TO HELP WRITE UP THE

RFP, BECAUSE MANY PROGRAMS ARE BEING DELAYED BY PROCESSES,

BY MONTHS, AND YOU HEAR TODAY THAT SOME PROGRAMS HAVE NOT

STARTED FOR TWO YEARS. WHY IS THAT?

SO NOT ONLY ARE WE SAYING FOR US THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING

PUT IN PLACE, AS THERE IS A TRANSITION TO A BOARD, THAT THEY

ARE METRICS AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT ACTION STEPS, SO THE

BOARD CAN BE VERSED IN WHAT HAS HAPPENED, IT SHOULD BE THE

SAME THING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.

THESE ARE THE SAME THINGS THAT ARE BEING WORKED ON, WE ARE

WORKING WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THE

TRAIN MOVING.

SO THAT HAS BEEN A LACK OF PROGRAMMING IN OUR COMMUNITY

BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD ANYONE WHO IS PROFESSIONAL TO HELP

US WRITE OUR RFPs.

20:19:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN.

WE HAVE PROTOCOLS THIS EVENING.

I KEEP HEARING THE SKILLS CENTER.

I SEE CELESTE ROBINSON.

MAYBE LET HER EXPLAIN WITH THE SKILLS CENTER.

BECAUSE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE SKILLS CENTER, WHAT




I KIND OF HEARD, I DON'T THINK -- I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT

SO THIS BOARD CAN KNOW, THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE CAN KNOW, WE

CAN SEE IT ON TV TONIGHT, SO SHE CAN TELL US WHAT THE SKILLS

CENTER IS. I SUPPORT THE SKILLS CENTER BUT I THINK THE

COMMUNITY WANTS TO KNOW AND THE BOARD FELT THEY DIDN'T HAVE

ENOUGH INFORMATION, BUT I THINK THEY DO ENDORSE THE PROJECT.

SO IF SHE COULD COME UP ABOUT THE PROGRAM.

20:19:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LET'S MS. BURTON SPEAK BRIEFLY AND THEN GET

TO MS. ROBINSON.

20:20:04 >> CONNIE BURTON:
THERE IS REALLY LITTLE INFORMATION TO THE

MONEYS THAT COME INTO EAST TAMPA.

PROGRAMS, GRANTS, YOUR CABLE CITY STAFF DOING ALL OF THAT,

WE SAW THE DOMAIN HOMES, RIGHT?

THE HANNA STREET PROJECT IS NOT AN EAST TAMPA PROJECT,

ALTHOUGH ALWAYS TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE THINGS COME TO EAST

TAMPA.

IT'S A DISTRICT WIDE PROJECT.

IT'S NOT EVEN IN EAST TAMPA.

SO THIS SHELL GAME OF LIKE NATASHA JUST LAID OUT, THE WAY

THINGS CAN BE PACKAGED, AND DEVELOPER FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS

REAL BECAUSE HE HAS THE CAPACITY OF DOING IT.

I JUST SAW WHERE A TECHNOLOGY COMPANY CAME HERE, I THINK ARE

GONE, THE BASS TEAM OR WHOEVER THEY WAS.

THEY WENT THROUGH ALMOST $10 MILLION A MONTH, GONE.

BUT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT




ENTREPRENEURSHIP IN OUR COMMUNITY, IF THE VISION IS THERE,

THE WANTING IS THERE, IT'S SHOWN AS A NEED THERE.

WE DON'T WANT JUST SOCIALIZED PROGRAMS THAT JUST HAVE FOUR

GENERATION AND THEN CAPTURE THE BABIES.

WE HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT CAN PUSH A

LAWNMOWER, WHO CAN LEARN HOW TO PUT TOGETHER A SMALL GRANT,

SO THEY CAN BE THE RECEIVERSHIP OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP.

YOU ARE CAPABLE OF DOING IT WHEN YOU WANT TO.

I AM TALKING TO THE CITY.

WHEN YOU WANT TO DO IT.

YOU APPROVE IT EVERY THURSDAY.

WE SAY EVERY WEEK WE COME DOWN HERE THAT WE MAKE UP 26% OF

THE POPULATION, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL OF OUR BUDGET, IT'S

LITTLE OR NOTHING COMING TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY, AND THEN IT

EVEN GETS WORSER.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CRA MONEY AND WE ARE PREDOMINANTLY 90%

OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND YET THE COMMUNITY IS

NOT RECEIVING ANYTHING.

SO THE GRANT HAS TO BE WRITTEN SO IT CAN LIFT THE PEOPLE,

THE POPULATION OF THAT COMMUNITY.

I DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH SOCIAL SERVICE, BUT I THINK WE

ARE BEYOND THAT NOW.

WE ARE BEYOND.

WE WAITED -- WE ARE LOOKING FOR ACTIVITY IN WAYS IN WHICH WE

CAN BUILD GENERATIONAL WEALTH.




THANK YOU.

20:22:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

I SAW YOU WANTED TO COME UP EARLIER AND SPEAK BUT YOU WERE

WAIVED OFF.

20:22:30 >> SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MY NAME IS CELESTE ROBINSON AND IT REALLY IS NOT FOR ME TO

TAKE THE TIME.

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TWO GROUPS TO

GET TOGETHER AND REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT THE SOLUTION IS.

ON THE SKILLS CENTER, WE ARE BRINGING A STATE OF THE ARTS

$20 MILLION DEVELOPMENT PROJECT INTO EAST TAMPA.

IT REALLY IS ABOUT WHAT MS. BURTON SAID.

OUR PROJECT IS REALLY FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY EQUITY AND HEALTH

AND WORKFORCE TRAINING.

IT IS REALLY A COLLABORATIVE MODEL.

IT'S NOT THAT WE DO ALL THINGS.

IT'S THAT WE LOOK AT RESOURCES IN OUR COMMUNITY, ON A COMMON

GOAL, AND THAT COMMON GOAL IS OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, AND MIDDLE

SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL, AND YOUNG ADULTS.

HOW DO WE HELP PEOPLE UPWARD ECONOMIC MOBILITY?

HOW DO WE HELP THEM TO HAVE THE SKILLS THEY NEED TO MAKE

ABOVE MINIMUM WAGE?

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THE SKILLS CENTER.

I WILL SAY THAT I DID GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND SO I HAVE A VERY UNIQUE EXPERIENCE MYSELF, AND I WILL




JUST SIMPLY SAY THIS.

THERE WAS NOT A PROCESS FOR ME TO GO THROUGH, RIGHT?

SO I HAD TO GO THROUGH THE WAY THAT I WAS TOLD TO GO

THROUGH, RECOMMENDED TO GO THROUGH, AND WHAT I FOUND ON THE

WEBSITE.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE A PROCESS FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO COME TO

ASK FOR MONEY.

I THINK EVERY APPLICATION THAT MY ORGANIZATION CAN FILL IT

OUT, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT INFORMATION, BECAUSE WE ALREADY

RAISED OUR MONEY, ALL RIGHT.

SO I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A PROCESS THAT HOLDS PEOPLE

ACCOUNTABLE.

I WAS A LITTLE SHOCKED THAT THERE WASN'T.

I ASKED SEVERAL PEOPLE BEFORE THE PROCESS, BUT AGAIN,

OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, MY GOAL IS TO GO THROUGH AND TO ASK FOR

WHAT I NEED FOR THIS PROJECT BRING THIS PROJECT TO BEAR.

BUT I THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY JUST TO SHARE WHAT

THE SKILLS CENTER IS. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EAST

TAMPA, EAST TAMPA CRA, AND THE CRA BOARD.

AGAIN, I THINK THIS WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, AND I HOPE THAT

WHAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE SHARED, THAT YOU ALL ARE WILLING TO

TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

I THINK IT COULD BE BETTER.

AND EAST TAMPA IS A VERY SPECIAL PLACE AND WE NEED TO BE

ABLE TO SHOWCASE THE ADVANTAGES FOR WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT EAST




TAMPA.

I ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT THE NEGATIVE, BUT WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT

EAST TAMPA?

WE NEED TO REALLY FOCUS ON THAT.

THANK YOU.

20:24:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER CAC MEMBERS WANTING TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROGRAMS

AND GRANTS?

20:25:03 >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS NORENE COPELAND MILLER.

20:25:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MA'AM.

20:25:10 >> AND I WANT TO SAY, FROM MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE SKILLS

CENTER, MY GRANDCHILDREN, YOU KNOW, BEFORE FINANCIALLY

ENGAGING MY GRANDCHILDREN IN THAT PROCESS, MY THING IS, WE

NEVER RECEIVED THE APPLICATION FROM THE SKILLS CENTER FOR

HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, AND THEY WERE DIRECTED FROM

HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT, EAST TAMPA, CRA,

FOR A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, AND I SPOKE WITH MY COUNTY

COMMISSIONER, AND THAT WAS NEVER THE CASE.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH SUPPORTING THE SKILLS CENTER BUT I

JUST THINK A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IS UNREASONABLE.

I THINK THAT THAT IS NOT ONE OF THE GREAT NEEDS IN EAST

TAMPA.

WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUTH PROGRAMS GOING ON, ONGOING PROGRAMS,

AND AS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

IF YOU GO ON THEIR WEBSITE, AND GOOGLE OR LOOK AT THE SKILLS




CENTER, YOU WILL SEE THAT FEES FOR YOUTH TO PARTICIPATE,

IT'S NOT FREE AS THEY PORTRAY.

MY THING IS, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO LOOK INTO

THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR HOW THEY WERE EVEN CONSIDERED,

OR WHAT THE PRACTICE IS.

WE HAVE TO DO AN APPLICATION THROUGH THE CAC BOARD.

WE ARE TO DO AN APPLICATION TO GET A TREE GRANT DONE.

BUT THERE IS NO APPLICATION PROCESS, AND FOR THOUSANDS OF

DOLLARS FROM OUR ORGANIZATION, IT IS A PROBLEM FOR ME,

BECAUSE AGAIN I HAVE BEEN IN EAST TAMPA 30-PLUS YEARS, AND

THE CRA DOLLARS, THE TIF DOLLARS, AND I STILL CAN'T GET A

SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF MY HOME, AND THE PEOPLE FROM THE

NURSING HOME RIDING IN THE STREETS ON SCOOTERS, PUSHING

THEIR WHEELCHAIR DOWN THE STREET, AND THEY PORTRAY

THEMSELVES TO BE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, A HALF A MILLION

DOLLARS.

WE HAVE ON LAKE AND 22ND AS YOU ALL CALL IT -- THAT WE

PURCHASED, AND WHEN THAT WAS PROJECTED OUT OF PLANS FOR THE

COMMUNITY FOR SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WASN'T RECEIVED WELL,

BUT FOR SOME REASON, WE ARE OPEN TO GIVING THE SKILLS CENTER

A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WITHOUT AN APPLICATION.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I WILL ASK CITY ATTORNEY TO LOOK INTO THAT PROCESS, ALL OF

THE DOLLARS, TO SEE WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN EAST TAMPA.

I DON'T WANT TO THINK THAT WE ARE OUT ON THE FOREFRONT.




AND YOU CAN CALL ME WHATEVER, A PROFESSIONAL PERSON, I HAVE

A CONCERN, BECAUSE OF MY GRANDCHILDREN, MY GREAT

GRANDCHILDREN, THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT WILL BE

WITH INTEGRITY, THAT WILL BE TRUSTWORTHY -- BECAUSE PEOPLE

JUST SHOW UP AND ASK FOR DOLLARS AND GET THEM WITHOUT THE

APPLICATION.

WHAT'S GOING ON IN EAST TAMPA?

WHAT IS GOING ON?

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS?

I WORKED FOR THE GOVERNMENT FOR OVER 40 YEARS, AND MY

TRAINING WAS IF IT'S NOT DOCUMENTED IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN EAST TAMPA AND IT'S NOT

DOCUMENTED.

AND I DON'T MIND FOR WHAT'S RIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S WHO I AM,

BECAUSE WHEN I WORKED ALL OF MY LIFE TWO AND THREE JOBS, A

MOTHER, A WIFE, AND A GRANDMOTHER, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE

TREATED FAIRLY.

IN EAST TAMPA THAT'S NOT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AND I HAVE A

PROBLEM WITH THAT.

SO I DO ASK THAT YOU ALL, PLEASE, CONSIDER WHAT'S GOING ON

IN EAST TAMPA AND FOLLOW THE TRAIL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE

HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT IS ACCOUNTABLE.

AND WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.

WE TALK ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.

LET'S BE REAL ABOUT IT.




NOT JUST TALK ABOUT IT.

AND THAT'S NOT HAPPENING IN EAST TAMPA.

WE ARE TREATED SO DIFFERENTLY.

I GREW UP IN SOUTH TAMPA, DALE MABRY IN BETWEEN DALE MABRY

AND AZEELE.

I WENT TO DOFIELD ELEMENTARY.

I WENT DOWN THE STREETS EVERY DAY.

WHEN WE WENT IN -- I LIVED THERE.

I WENT INTO THE BEACH AS A BLACK WOMAN, BUT NOW IN EAST

TAMPA WE CAN'T EVEN GO TO EAST TAMPA AND GET WHAT WE ARE

PAYING FOR.

SO YOU CAN CALL ME WHATEVER YOU WANT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING PROCESSES AND

TREATING US WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT AND KNOW THAT WE ARE

HUMAN, TOO.

WE DEMAND TO BE TREATED WITH RESPECT.

AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE SKILLS CENTER.

20:30:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

20:30:37 >> DO IT RIGHT AND DO IT FAIR.

AND THAT'S ALL I ASK.

SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR ALLOWING ME TO

SPEAK AT THIS TIME.

20:30:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

MS. TRAVIS.




WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE PROGRAMS AND GRANTS?

20:30:50 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
IF I COULD MENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS IN

RESPONSE.

FOR MANY YEARS, I THINK ESPECIALLY EAST TAMPA BUT I THINK IN

ALL OF OUR CRAS, MOST OF THE TIF DOLLARS WERE USED ON

INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND NOT IN GRANT PROGRAMS.

SO THIS HAS BEEN A TRANSFORMATION FOR THIS CRA TO BECOME

MORE OF A GRANT AGENCY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD A DISCUSSION I THINK MAYBE TWO

OR THREE CRA MEETINGS AGO, I THINK MS. VAN LOAN CAME FORWARD

WITH A PROPOSAL OF A GRANT POLICY FOR ADOPTION BY THE CRA

BOARD, BECAUSE WE ARE COMING UP WITH SO MANY GRANT PROGRAMS,

AND WE NEED TO COME UP WITH -- AND I AGREE, WE NEED TO HAVE

A UNIFORM POLICY IN PLACE FOR EVERYONE WHO APPLIES FOR TIF

DOLLARS FROM ANY OF THE CRAS, AND SO THIS IS FRANKLY THE

CASE.

WE HAVE HAD FACADE GRANTS FOR YEARS.

WE HAD THE TREE TRIMMING GRANT.

BUT A LOT OF THESE NEW GRANT PROGRAMS ARE COMING INTO PLAY,

ESPECIALLY WEST TAMPA, EAST TAMPA.

THEY ARE NEW.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE APPLICATION

PROCESS? WHEN DO THEY NEED TO COME BEFORE YOU ALL FOR

APPROVAL.

20:32:08 >> WHAT CAN BE APPROVED IN AN ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL BY A




DOLLAR AMOUNT?

THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD RIGHT

NOW, TRYING TO GET MONEY OUT THE DOOR AS WELL.

AND WE GRAPPLED WITH THIS, NOT JUST IN EAST TAMPA BUT IN SO

MANY OTHER CRAS, DOWNTOWN, FOR INSTANCE, WHERE THERE ARE

SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT DON'T FIT WITHIN ANY OF OUR GRANT

PROGRAMS OR GRANT APPLICATION PROCESSES.

BUT IF IT CAN BE SHOWN THAT THEY COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 163,

AND THEY ADOPT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT IS

SOMETHING THAT EITHER YOU ALL AS A BOARD SUPPORT OR THE CACS

AND THE CRAS TOGETHER HAVE THEIR SUPPORT, FOR INSTANCE THE

SUPPORT WE HAVE GIVEN OUR INSTITUTIONS DOWNTOWN, THAT'S AN

EXAMPLE.

THERE DOES NEED TO BE SOME MINIMUM APPLICATION PROCESS IN

PLACE AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THOSE INSTANCES WHERE THERE

ARE SPECIAL PROJECTS, THEY DON'T FIT WITH THE EXISTING GRANT

PROGRAMS IS THAT WE REQUIRE AND NEGOTIATED AN AGREEMENT WITH

THE ENTITY THAT'S RECEIVING THE MONEY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE

MONEY IS USED FOR A PURPOSE THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH 163 AND

IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO THAT HAS BEEN THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE USED.

SO THE FACT THAT THE SKILLS CENTER CAME IN AND ASKED FOR A

HALF MILLION DOLLARS, IT'S HALF MILLION DOLLARS OUT THE DOOR

THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE NEGOTIATION, A FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH

THE SKILLS CENTER TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT MONEY WAS APPLIED




FOR THE PURPOSE AGAIN CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 163, AND FOR

THE ADOPTED COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR EAST TAMPA.

THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY THAT THAT AGREEMENT WOULD COME,

IF IT'S BEING REVIEWED BY THE CAC, COME TO YOU ALL AS A CRA

FOR APPROVAL, ONCE IT GOT APPROVED, THAT'S WHEN THE MONEY

WOULD GO OUT THE DOOR.

THAT'S THE PROCESS.

THE FACT THAT THIS CONCEPT WAS APPROVED AT THE CAC LEVEL

CAME TO YOU ALL FOR SUPPORT, IN MY OPINION, IT'S ALMOST THE

START OF THE PROCESS, BECAUSE THE SPECIAL PROJECTS REQUIRE A

NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT, AGAIN, THAT SITS OUTSIDE OF OUR GRANT

PROGRAM AS IT EXISTS RIGHT NOW.

BUT THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE SOME BASIC APPLICATION IN PLACE,

WHERE THEY HAVE TO JUST STATE WHAT THE PURPOSE THAT THEY ARE

APPLYING FOR, AND PERHAPS EXPLAIN HOW WE THINK IT COMPLIES

WITH 163, THE ADOPTED COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, ACTUALLY

MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE PROBABLY NEED TO IMPLEMENT AS WE

BRING HOME THE GRANT PROGRAMS, AND BECOME A GRANT MAKING

AGENCY, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE BECOMING.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

20:34:53 >> WHEN YOU HAVE CRAS IN EXISTENCE FOR A LONG TIME, THE

EARLIER YEARS OF THE CRA IS USUALLY DONE IN LAYING THE

FOUNDATION, YOU DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE WORK, AND THIS IS

INVESTMENT THAT PRIVATE SECTOR, PRIVATE DEVELOPERS DON'T




REALLY SPEND THE MONEY ON.

SO YOU LAY THE FOUNDATION.

EAST TAMPA HAS DONE THAT.

FOR YEARS, WE HAVE DONE ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WORK, AND

REALLY PRIMING THE REAL ESTATE AND PRIMING THE PUMP FOR

INVESTMENT TO COME INTO THE COMMUNITY.

NOW SHIFTING TO THE GRANT ORIENTED PROGRAM, IT'S TO MEET THE

NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE.

AND SO YOU HAVE PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN PLACE, THAT HAVE BEEN

ADOPTED AND APPROVED.

IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT THAT SHOULD BE DONE AT AN

ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL.

YOU HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THE PROGRAM.

THERE'S NO REASON WHY STAFF SHOULD BE REPORTING ON THAT IN

THE CAC MEETING, IF YOU HAVE A BUDGETED AMOUNT, IT'S A

PROGRAM THAT'S APPROVED UNLESS IT STAYS INSIDE THOSE

PARAMETERS WE CAN JUST KEEP MOVING AND FOCUS ON THE NEXT

PROGRAM.

THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR THE FUNDING AGREEMENT THAT

ATTORNEY MORRIS WAS TALKING ABOUT -- MORRIS MASSEY, BUT WHAT

HE IS TALKING ABOUT IS MY PHILOSOPHY, PAY FOR PERFORMANCE,

RIGHT?

SO YOU HAVE THE NEEDS OF THE CRA THAT NEED TO BE MET, TO

CODIFY IT INTO AN AGREEMENT, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ENTITIES

THAT'S RECEIVING THE MONEY HAS PERFORMED AND MET THE




METRICS, OR MET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT MONEY, AND THEN

THAT'S HOW THE MONEY IS EXPENDED.

SO AS YOU DO REDEVELOPMENT, IN THESE LARGER PROJECTS, YOU

WILL NOT HAVE A CUT AND DRY APPLICATION TO MEET THAT NEED.

HOWEVER, MR. McCRAY AND I WERE TALKING OFF TO THE SIDE TO

HAVING A COVER SHEET APPLICATION TO JUST SAY HERE ARE

CHECKED BOXES, THE THINGS THAT ARE HIGH LEVEL, WHAT'S THE

REQUIREMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, HAVE THEY

MET WHICH BOXES ARE CHECKED, WHAT ARE THEY ASKING FOR

FUNDING FOR, WHAT ARE THEY HOPING TO DO WITH THAT?

IT'S A COVER PAGE THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN UNDERSTAND AT A

ONE-SHOT GLANCE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE ALL THE BACKUP

DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU NEED.

THAT'S UP TO STAFF.

THAT'S OUR REQUIREMENT TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT OF THE

REQUESTED ENTITY TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU.

SO I THINK WE CAN ACHIEVE THAT INPUTTING THAT COVER PAGE SO

THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS HOW IT MEETS THE NEED OF THE

COMMUNITY, WHAT EXACTLY THEY ARE ASKING FOR FUNDING FOR, AND

WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THAT SO WE KNOW WHICH FISCAL YEAR TO

BUDGET FOR.

20:37:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

20:37:32 >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK, NUMBER ONE ON THAT SHEET SHOULD BE

WHERE DOES THE IDEA COME FROM.

IN THE CASE OF THE SKILLS CENTER, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE




IDEA CAME FROM.

BUT ACROSS THE DISTRICTS, WHAT I OBSERVED IS THAT THE

BIGGEST COMPLAINTS WE GET ARE WHEN THE CITY PUTS COSTS ONTO

THE CAC.

WE HEAR BACK FROM THE CAC, WHY DID THE CITY HAND US THIS

COST?

WE DIDN'T AGREE TO THIS.

WE DIDN'T WANT THIS.

AND IT'S THINGS THAT MAYBE WE NEED, BUT WE HEARD FEEDBACK

FROM THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT CRA MONEY SPENT ON THINGS THE

CITY SHOULD OTHERWISE PAY FOR AND THEY ALSO DON'T WANT THE

CITY JUST HAND THE BILL TO THE CRA.

LIKE IN THE CASE OF THE JACKSON HOUSE, I THINK WE ALL AGREE

THAT THE JACKSON HOUSE SHOULD BE PRESERVED.

WE ALLOCATED THE MILLION DOLLARS.

BUT IN THAT CASE NOTHING IS HAPPENING.

AND SO THE NEXT THING I RECOMMEND IS WE HAVE TO HOLD THE

CITY ACCOUNTABLE ALSO.

WE HAVE ALLOCATED MONEY THROUGH ONE OF THE DISTRICTS TO

TAMPA UNION STATION, BUT BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS OWNED BY

THE CITY, THE CITY TOLD US THE OTHER DAY, WE ARE GOING TO

WAIT TILL 2024, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE AFTER THE ELECTION.

SO EVERYTHING NOW YOU WATCH, GUYS, IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS,

EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE PUSHED TO AFTER 2024.

AND WE HAVE THE STAFF.




IF THE CITY WON'T ALLOW US TO CHANGE THEIR BUILDING, THEN

MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE THE MONEY BACK AND SAY, OKAY, YOU GUYS

FIX YOUR OWN BUILDING.

WE SIT AS CITY COUNCIL.

WE ALSO SIT AS CRA.

THE JACKSON HOUSE WE PUT IN $2 MILLION BUT NOTHING IS

HAPPENING.

THE THING IS ABOUT TO FALL DOWN.

20:39:13 >> THAT'S NOT ON THE CITY SIDE FOR US TO --

20:39:16 >>BILL CARLSON:
AND THE OTHER EXAMPLE HE MENTIONED STRAZ

CENTER.

WE CRA PUT IN 25%, AND THE PUBLIC IS, THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS

MATCHING IT WITH FOUR TIMES OUR MONEY PUTTING IN FOR A CITY

OWNED FACILITY.

SO IT WAS INVESTMENT MONEY.

THE CITY THEN CAME IN AND SAID, AFTER A YEAR OF COMING

BEFORE US ALMOST EVERY MONTH, THE CITY CAME TO US AND SAID,

WE ARE GOING TO -- WE ARE GOING TO DELAY THIS FOR ANOTHER

MONTH, WHICH EMBARRASSED THE STRAZ CENTER. STRAZ CENTER IS

A FACILITY THAT HAS PROGRAMS FOR EVERYBODY THROUGHOUT THE

CITY AND THEY HAVE TRAINING PROGRAMS FOR KIDS, ALL KINDS OF

GREAT PROGRAMS.

FREE PROGRAMS, AND THEY WANT TO ADD MORE FREE PROGRAMS TO

OPEN UP THE RIVERFRONT.

BUT INSTEAD THEY GOT BAD PRESS.




WE WERE TRYING TO OUT OF COVID SAVE THEIR REDEVELOPMENT

WHICH WAS NOT GOING TO MOVE FORWARD UNLESS WE DID SOMETHING,

AND THE CRA SAVED IT, AND WE HAD TO PUT A STOP ON IT.

WHY?

BECAUSE THE CITY SAID WE WANT TO GO BACK AND DO AN

EVALUATION.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS?

THE CITY MADE THE STRAZ CENTER CHANGE THEIR PowerPoint

PRESENTATION TO ADD THE ELEMENTS OF T-3 IN IT.

SO THAT THEY COULD PRESENT TO US THAT IT WAS T-3 SO IT

LOOKED LIKE IT WAS THE MAYOR'S IDEAS.

THAT'S CRAZY.

SO WE HURT THE REPUTATION AT THE STRAZ CENTER FOR MORE THAN

A MONTH, A BELOVED PUBLIC FACILITY, SO WE COULD ADD T-3 IN

IT?

WE NEED TO ADD THE T-3 LOGO ON TO THE GET IT PASSED? IF WE

NEED TO PUT A BIG T-3 SIGN IN FRONT OF THE JACKSON HOUSE

WHO SAVE IT, I WILL DO THAT.

I WILL PAY FOR A PRESS CONFERENCE SO THE MAYOR THERE SO THE

MAYOR CAN HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE THERE AND WE CAN USE CRA

MONEY TO GET IT DONE, IF THAT WILL SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE.

BUT WE CAN'T SAVE TAMPA UNION STATION.

WE CAN'T SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE.

WE CAN'T PUT A WORLD WAR II MONUMENT INSIDE THE TAMPA UNION

STATION UNTIL 2024?




WE CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT IT UNTIL 2024?

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE GOING TO HEAR IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.

AND THEN WE CAN'T PUT SIDEWALKS IN EAST TAMPA, WE CAN'T DO

ANYTHING, BECAUSE THE CITY IS HOLDING US UP.

SO WE HAVE TO HOLD THE CITY ACCOUNTABLE.

AND IF THE CITY ISN'T GOING TO DO -- IF THE CITY WANTS TAMPA

UNION STATION TO FALL APART AND LET THE WINDOWS FALL OUT, GO

AHEAD.

BUT IF CRA IS PUTTING THE MONEY, THIS IS BEING MONEY THAT'S

BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE REST OF THE CITY. IF THE REST OF

THE CITY WANTS TO SUBSIDIZE THESE THINGS, THE CITY NEEDS TO

MOVE OUT OF THE WAY AND LET US DO IT.

JUST BECAUSE WE ARE FASTER AND MORE NIMBLE DOESN'T MEAN THAT

THE CITY SHOULD WAIT AND MAKE US NOT BE ABLE TO DO THESE

IMPORTANT THINGS.

EAST TAMPA, WE HEAR A WHOLE LINE OF PEOPLE THAT WANT THINGS

DONE, AND IT'S NOT JUST EAST TAMPA, THE REST OF THESE

DISTRICTS WANT THINGS DONE TOO AND WE NEED TO GET IT DONE.

THANK YOU.

20:41:55 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
IF I MAY RESPOND.

COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.

FOR THE TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE JANUARY, I HAVE

HEARD OF THE TAMPA UNION STATION, AND I HAVE SEEN THE WORK

THAT HAS GONE IN BEHIND THE SCENES TO DO THE PROPER

ASSESSMENT, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT TAKES TO PROPERLY ASSESS




AND FIX THE BUILDING.

THE 2024 PLAN IS WHEN WE WOULD HAVE THE BUILDING BROUGHT UP

TO CODE, WINDOWS.

I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN DETAILS, BUT IT'S NOT THAT WE

CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT AND NOT THAT WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT THE USE

FOR IT BEFORE 2024.

SO THERE ARE PLANS IN PLACE, AND THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD

WITH THAT.

WITH THE JACKSON HOUSE, I RECENTLY MET WITH THE FOUNDATION.

THAT IS NOT BEING HELD UP ON THE CITY'S SIDE.

WE HAVE BEEN AT THE TABLE, ASKING QUESTIONS, AND HELPING TO

GET THROUGH FOR THEM TO GET THROUGH THE PERMIT, FLORIDA

BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS.

THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ON THE FOUNDATION TO DO WITH THEIR

ARCHITECT AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ALONGSIDE THEM TO FIND

SOLUTIONS AND COME UP WITH WHAT THEY CALL AMRs, WHICH ARE

ADAPTIVE PLANS ON HOW YOU CAN MEET THE FLORIDA BUILDING

CODE.

SO THAT'S NOT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE OR FROM THE CITY

SIDE.

WE ARE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE DEVELOPER.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORTHY IDEAS, AND I AM NOT A POLITICAL

PERSON, I AM HERE TO DO THE WORK.

I AM HERE TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD.

I AM HERE TO HELP.




SO A LOT OF THIS, LIKE WITH THE IDEA WITH T-3, EVERYTHING IN

THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR EAST TAMPA, IT ALIGNS WITH T-3.

IT DOES.

THE HOUSE, WORKFORCE HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, BUT I AM NOT

TRYING TO DRIVE A NEXUS BETWEEN ALL OF THAT.

WE HAVE WORK -- THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE.

WE ARE HERE TRYING TO DO THE WORK.

I HAVE SEEN INTERNALLY FROM THE WORK BEING DONE AND TO MOVE

THE NEEDLE FORWARD.

SO I'M HERE TO DO THAT.

20:43:55 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD JUST ADD, THE COMMUNITY SAID, IF

IT'S A PRIORITY, IF IT'S A T-3 PRIORITY, OR A PRIORITY OF

THE ADMINISTRATION, IT MOVES FAST, SUDDENLY IF WE WANT TO DO

SOMETHING IN DOWNTOWN OR WHATEVER IT MOVES REALLY FAST, WE

CLEAR EVERYTHING.

THE TAMPA UNION STATION WHAT'S HOLDING UP THE STAFF SAID,

OH, YOU NEED TO RAISE A MILLION AND A HALF WITH THE

INCREASED BUDGET, YOU NEED TO RAISE A MILLION AND A HALF FOR

GRANTS.

SO BECAUSE OF THAT WE ARE GOING TO WAIT.

WELL, WHY NOT COME BACK TO THE CRA AND SAY WHY DON'T YOU PAY

THE OTHER MILLION AND A HALF BECAUSE WE NEED TO SAVE THE

BUILDING.

WE NEED TO SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE.

20:44:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON,




THE UNION STATION ISN'T IN THE EAST TAMPA CRA.

WHAT WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE EAST TAMPA

CRA.

20:44:42 >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST AN EXAMPLE, IF IT'S NOT A PRIORITY OF

THE ADMINISTRATION, IT DOESN'T GET DONE IN THE CRAs.

AND THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CRAs.

20:44:52 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.

I AM HERE BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE IN DEVELOPMENT AND MY

REDEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE. THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT

IN MY INTERVIEW WAS EXTENSIVELY MY WORK IN THE CRAs, AND

SO I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT I WAS RECRUITED HERE TO BRING

THAT EXPERIENCE AND TO WORK WITH THE CRA.

20:45:10 >>BILL CARLSON:
I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I RESPECT YOUR

BACKGROUND.

AND MY CRITICISM IS NOTHING ABOUT YOU BECAUSE I THINK YOU

WILL.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY TO MY COLLEAGUES IS IN OUR

AGREEMENT, OUTSOURCING AGREEMENT, THE CITY, WE PAY FOR A

FULL-TIME EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND THE NEXT SIX MONTHS IT

SOUND LIKE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, 20% OF YOUR

TIME.

AND SO I RECOMMEND THAT IF YOU COULD PROVIDE INPUT AND

OVERSIGHT, BUT WE NEED THAT FULL TIME EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

WE HAVE TOO MANY THINGS GETTING DONE.

WE CAN'T HAVE A PART TIME PERSON DOING IT.




BUT IF WE ARE ONLY GOING TO HAVE A PART-TIME PERSON DOING

IT, I THINK WE NEED TO RENEGOTIATE THE PAYMENT, THE PAYMENT

THE CITY GOES UP EVERY YEAR UNLESS WE REDUCE IT BY HALF

EVERY YEAR IF WE ARE ONLY GOING TO HAVE A PART-TIME PERSON.

20:45:55 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
LET ME JUST PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT.

IF YOU THINK THAT IT'S BENEFICIAL, I WAS OFFERING MY

EXPERIENCE AND MY EXPERTISE TO COME AND PROVIDE IN THAT GAP.

IF YOU THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR THE CRA BOARD TO GO THROUGH

A RECRUITMENT PROCESS TO FIND A DIRECTOR RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE

TALKING ABOUT THE TURNOVER, SO I AM GOING TO TALK TO YOU

PLAINLY AND CANDIDLY RIGHT NOW.

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TURNOVER ON THE BOARD MEMBERS AND

THE VOLUNTEERS.

YOU HAVE A TRANSITION OF STAFF.

I AM WILLING TO STEP IN.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN 20%.

THE THINGS THAT I HEARD IN THIS ROOM TONIGHT IS MORE THAN

20% OF MY TIME.

THE ADMINISTRATION IS COMMITTED TO GIVING ME ANOTHER PERSON

TO HELP ME DO THE WORK IN EAST TAMPA AND TO GET THE WORK

DONE IN THE CRAS AND OTHER THINGS TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE

COMMUNITY.

AND SO --

20:46:37 >>BILL CARLSON:
ARE WE MAKING A DECISION THAT SHE'S GOING

TO BE THERE THIS FOREVER?




20:46:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NO, THIS IS INTERIM.

20:46:42 >>BILL CARLSON:
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT'S A SIX MONTH

INTERIM. SO WHY ARE WE GOING --

20:46:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

20:46:46 >>BILL CARLSON:
BUT WHAT ORGANIZATION IS GOING TO HAVE A

SIX MONTH INTERIM?

20:46:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
UNTIL THE CONTRACT COMES BACK UP.

20:46:52 >>BILL CARLSON:
ARE WE NOT GOING TO RENEW THE CONTRACT?

IF WE RENEW THE CONTRACT, THEN WE NEED A FULL-TIME PERSON.

OTHERWISE, WHAT ARE WE RENEWING FOR?

20:47:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. TRAVIS, DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE BEING

THE INTERIM TILL THE CONTRACT COMES BACK UP?

IF NOT --

20:47:10 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
COUNCILMAN --

20:47:11 >> MR. MASSEY, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.

I SEE YOU REACH FOR YOUR MICROPHONE.

20:47:16 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY, THERE IS

ALREADY FOR SIX MONTHS.

NOW, THE POINT THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON RAISED IS ABOUT THE

OUNT THAT IS ALLOCATED IN THE SERVICES AGREEMENT.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT AMOUNT THAT'S ALLOCATED FOR MS.

VAN LOAN'S SALARY IS NECESSARY, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S

GOING TO BE ALLOCATED SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THIS MAY BE A BASIS FOR ADJUSTING THE AGREEMENT.

WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.




20:47:42 >>BILL CARLSON:
BUT IF SHE'S GOING TO HIRE ANOTHER STAFF

PERSON TO DO WHAT AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WOULD HAVE DONE --

20:47:45 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
NO, NO, NO, NO.

I AM NOT HIRING YOUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

I AM NOT HIRING YOUR STAFF.

WHAT I AM TELLING YOU IS THE ADMINISTRATION HAS COMMITTED TO

DOING THE WORK AND PROVIDING ME THE RESOURCES THAT I NEED TO

COME IN AND DO THE WORK.

YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR THAT FROM THE CRA.

IF THIS BOARD AND THIS BODY WANTS TO PRORATE THE EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR'S PAY FROM THE TWO WEEKS THAT IT'S EFFECTIVE,

THAT'S THE PREROGATIVE OF THE BOARD.

I AM NOT ADVOCATING TO BE YOUR CRA DIRECTOR.

I AM SIMPLY ASKING -- I AM RECOMMENDING THAT I STEP IN IN

THAT INTERIM PROCESS. IN THIS SIX MONTH PROCESS IF YOU WANT

TO START A RECRUITMENT FOR AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, YOU

ABSOLUTELY CAN DO THAT.

BUT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TRANSITION ON THE BOARD HERE.

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY AND GET

THINGS DONE.

THOSE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN IN A VACUUM.

THOSE THINGS HAPPEN BY SOMEBODY LEADING FROM THE TOP AND

SETTING DIRECTION TO THE STAFF.

SO WHILE MR. McCRAY IS HERE AND ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF IN

THE EAST TAMPA OFFICE TO DO IT, THEIR DIRECTION, THEY STILL




NEED LEADERSHIP AND DIRECTION.

THEY STILL NEED SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND PROVIDE OVERSIGHT

AND GUIDANCE.

I HAVE WORKED WITH THEM.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO MR. McCRAY ON NUMEROUS TIMES.

I WENT TO THE EAST TAMPA CRA MEETING.

IF IT'S THE BOARD'S PREROGATIVE TO HIRE AN EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR, AND TAKE THE TIME TO DO THAT IN THE INTERIM, AND

NOT HAVE THE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU NEED, THAT'S THE BOARD'S

PREROGATIVE.

I AM JUST SAYING THAT YOU HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, A ROOM

FULL OF PEOPLE READY TO MOVE FORWARD, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS

SAID, NICOLE, THIS IS CRA, THIS IS YOUR STAFF, HELP THEM.

20:49:18 >>BILL CARLSON:
WE ARE PAYING FOR BOTH.

THAT'S MY POINT.

YOU ARE ALREADY -- YOU ARE THE HEAD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,

PLANNING, SO YOU HAVE ALL OF THAT UNDER YOUR PORTFOLIO.

YOU WERE ALREADY DOING EAST TAMPA AND I RESPECT YOUR ABILITY

AND YOU CAN GET LOTS OF VICE FROM CRA.

BUT IF WE HAVE AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ESPECIALLY DURING THE

RAMP-UP PERIOD, WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FULL TIME

LOOKING AT THESE ISSUES AND TRYING TO RESOLVE THEM AND THAT

PERSON CAN PARTNER WITH YOU.

SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES, I DON'T THINK

IT TAKES SIX MONTHS TO HIRE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SO WE HAVE




A NATIONAL SEARCH, AND GET AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WHEN IT'S

AVAILABLE.

20:49:53 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YOU ARE THE BOARD AND YOU CAN MAKE THE

DECISION TO DO THAT.

AT THIS POINT, I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE SPLITTING HAIRS, JUST

ON PROCESS AND TECHNICALITIES.

BUT IT'S THE BOARD'S PREROGATIVE. IF YOU HAVE AN EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS -- YOU ASK FOR THAT, THE

ADMINISTRATION HAS PROVIDED THAT FOR TWO YEARS, YOU HAVE AN

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND A CRA IN PLACE PROVIDING YOU REPORTS

FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.

IF YOU WANT TO GO AND GO RECRUIT FOR AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,

I WILL HELP YOU DO THAT.

I AM SIMPLY HERE SAYING THAT WE WANT TO HELP.

SO I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I CAN TAKE UP WITH

YOU GUYS AT ANOTHER TIME.

I SHOULDN'T TAKE UP ANY MORE TIME OF THE CRA.

20:50:34 >> JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

IF THAT'S A MOTION YOU WANT TO MAKE AT THE NEXT CRA BOARD

MEETING, PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO THAT

THEN.

LET'S GO FORWARD.

20:50:44 >> I WAS ABOUT TO SAY WE ARE HERE DISCUSSING.

20:50:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MA'AM.

WE ARE HERE AT THE CAC AND CRA.




20:50:51 >> IT'S ALMOST 9:
00 AND WE STILL HAVE MORE THINGS TO

DISCUSS.

20:50:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MA'AM.

20:50:55 >> TO STAY WITH EAST TAMPA.

20:50:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MA'AM.

20:50:57 >>BILL CARLSON:
MY APOLOGIES TO EVERYONE.

20:51:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LET'S GO TO ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM, WHICH WE

HAVE ALREADY TALKED EXTENSIVELY ABOUT, EAST TAMPA CRA STAFF.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT?

20:51:19 >> CLINTON PARIS, CAC BOARD MEMBER.

ON THE ISSUES OF STAFFING, FIRST WE NEED TO APPRECIATE THE

DYNAMICS OF WHERE THIS CAC WAS FOR PRETTY MUCH THE LAST YEAR

OR SO.

I THINK CEDRIC MAY BE THE MOST TENURED PERSON WE HAVE ON THE

STAFF.

AND IT'S FINALLY GOTTEN FILLED OUT AT ALMOST EVERY MEETING A

NEW PERSON HAS COME ON THAT CAN TAKE ON SOME OF THE

RESPONSIBILITIES, SO WE THINK WE ARE GETTING CLOSER TO THE

STAFFING LEVEL THAT CAN ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

IT DIDN'T APPEAR THAT WHEN I CAME ON, THOUGH, IT HAD THE

SAME LEVEL OF STAFFING.

I THINK WE HAD EVA, ED JOHNSON, AND THERE WAS A YOUNG MAN

THAT CAME AND WENT PRETTY QUICKLY.

BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE STAFFING HAS BEEN AT THE LEVEL

IT HAS BEEN OR NEEDED TO BE FOR A COMMUNITY OF THAT SIZE,




AND A CRA OF THAT SIZE.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE TO POINT OUT AS RELATES

TO STAFFING.

NOW, THAT STAFFING IS A BIG DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE AGAIN MOST

OF THOSE FOLKS COME WITH VERY LITTLE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE

IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND EAST TAMPA IS A TOUGH COMMUNITY, IT'S A PROUD COMMUNITY,

IT'S A COMMUNITY THAT'S DEMANDING RESULTS.

AND SO I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON THE CRA BOARD TO BE

DILIGENT IN OVERSEEING THAT STAFF AND MAKING SURE THEY ARE

TAKING CARE OF THINGS THAT WE NEED.

NOW WE ARE TRYING BY ASKING FOR REPORTS AND THINGS OF THAT

NATURE, BUT I THINK THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON THIS

BOARD TO BE VERY CRITICAL OF THE REPORTS YOU RECEIVE, OF THE

INFORMATION THAT'S BEING PROVIDED TO YOU.

AND THE INFORMATION THAT'S NOT BEING PROVIDED TO YOU.

TO PICK UP ON THOSE THINGS, AND ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE THAT WE ASKED

FOR, AND WE THINK WILL EMBELLISH OR HELP US TO SERVE THE

COMMUNITY BETTER.

ONE IS WE ASK FOR HOUSING CONSULTANT.

SOMEONE TO COME INTO EAST TAMPA TO HELP US WITH FIGURING OUT

WHAT IS THE BEST WAY THAT WE CAN ASSIST IN SUPPORTING THE

HOUSING NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

A PROFESSIONAL.




AN EXPERT IN THAT FIELD.

NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE SERVING WITH US, THAT HAVE SOME REAL

ESTATE EXPERIENCE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT A TRUE PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANT THAT IS REPORTING TO US

ON HOW WE CAN BEST IMPACT THE HOUSING NEEDS IN EAST TAMPA.

WE ALSO ASKED FOR AN SAP CONSULTANT.

IF YOU HAVE TAKEN TIME TO LOOK AT THAT SAP AND MORE

IMPORTANTLY WHEN IT GETS CORRECTED AND GETS TO THE PLACE

THAT IT NEEDS TO BE, IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED DOCUMENT.

AND IT'S GOING TO NEED SOMEBODY WHO CAN CORRELATE BETWEEN

WHAT WE ARE DECIDING TO DO AND WHAT ITS DIRECTING US WILL BE

BEST BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE ASKED FOR AN SAP CONSULTANT TO BE ALSO, ONCE IT'S

ADOPTED, TO BE PROVIDED SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT

MOVING THE COMMUNITY ALONG IN THE WAY THAT WE PLAN THE

STRATEGIC REPORT IN PLACE AND PAY FOR THIS REPORT TO BE

PROVIDED TO US.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED IS INFORMATION THAT'S KEY.

AND WE HAVE ASKED FOR A COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, SOMEBODY

THAT CAN ASSIST US WITH HOW COMMUNICATIONS ARE DISTRIBUTED.

YOU TALK EARLIER ABOUT A ADVERTISING PERSON.

THAT'S SALES.

I'M TALKING ABOUT INFORMATION COMMUNICATION, HOW WE UTILIZE

SOME OF THE NEW TECHNOLOGIES, HOW DO WE PROVIDE INFORMATION

TO OR FROM THE COMMUNITY, HOW THAT'S FACILITATED BACK INTO




OUR BOARD, AND HOW WE CONNECT ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS EVEN

UP TO THIS BOARD'S LEVEL.

SO THOSE ARE THREE THINGS ON THE STAFFING LEVEL THAT WE HAVE

TRIED TO BRING IN, TO BUILD UP.

EAST TAMPA IS ALMOST LIKE ITS OWN CITY.

AND IT REALLY SHOULD BE STAFFED OUT SO THAT IT HAS THE BEST

CHANCE TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS THAT WE ARE SETTING OUT, TO GET

RID OF THE BLIGHT THAT THE CRA WAS CREATED TO DO.

SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE STUFF IS IN PLACE NOW.

NOW IT'S ABOUT THE PEOPLE.

AND IT'S MUCH HARDER TO SEE THE SUFFERING AND STRATEGIES FOR

HOW YOU RESOLVE PEOPLE ISSUES VERSUS PUTTING IN A ROAD.

TAKES A LOT MORE SOFTWARE SKILLS, AND I THINK IF WE CAN GET

THE STAFF BUILT OUT WITH THESE ADDITIONAL THREE PIECES, IT

WILL GET US CLOSER TO BEING ABLE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS ON THE STAFFING LEVEL.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PASSION FOR EAST TAMPA.

AND SOMETIME LET'S NOT CONFUSE DISAGREEMENT WITH THE LACK OF

PASSION.

WE ALL I THINK WANT THE SAME THING.

SOMETIMES WE MAY DISAGREE HOW WE GET THERE.

THANK YOU.

20:56:05 >> TO BE CLEAR, THOSE THREE THINGS THAT HE JUST REFERENCED

WE VOTED ON AS A BOARD AND THAT WAS APPROVED, WHERE WE NEED




CITY STAFF TO HELP US SEEK OUT THE CONSULTANTS THAT WE HAVE

ALREADY APPROVED.

SO THOSE THREE ITEMS HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IN OUR

BUDGET.

WE JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW DO WE HIRE THEM AND WHAT PROCESS WE

NEED TO TAKE IN ORDER TO GET THEM.

20:56:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

MS. GOODLEY.

20:56:36 >> MS. GOODLEY:
OKAY.

I HOPE NONE OF YOU TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY.

BUT I HAVE BEEN COMING UP HERE SINCE 2018, AND EVERYTHING I

KNOW THAT I SAID TONIGHT I HAVE SAID BEFORE.

NOW, EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK WHO IS NEW,

BUT FOR EVERYONE ELSE, YOU HEARD ME SPEAK ON HOW WE ARE

TRYING TO DO LAND ACQUISITIONS SO WE COULD HAVE A GROCERY

STORE.

I EVEN BROUGHT A POTENTIAL GROCERY STORE THAT I LOCATED WHO

WAS INTERESTED IN COMING TO FLORIDA, WHO THEY HAVEN'T BEEN

HERE BEFORE, I EVEN BROUGHT THAT STORE, BROUGHT THE WHOLE

ADDRESS, EVERYTHING, NEVER HEARD EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT IT.

WE ACQUIRED THE STORE ON LAKE AND 22ND BECAUSE WE WERE

TRYING TO BUILD A GROCERY STORE, BECAUSE WE ALREADY OWNED

TWO LOTS THERE.

SO THE IDEA WAS TO GET THAT AND THE REST OF THE PROPERTY ON

THE STREET SO THAT WE HAVE A LOCATION FOR THE GROCERY STORE,




BECAUSE OUR INITIAL LOCATION, THAT LAND WAS GIVEN IN THE

PACKAGE OF LAND TO DOMAIN HOMES.

SO NOW WE HAD TO FIND MORE LAND IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT

HAPPEN.

I CAME BEFORE YOU WITH THAT.

I CAME BEFORE YOU WHEN WE HAD THE PROPERTY ON 22ND STREET,

THAT WE WERE INITIALLY TRYING TO PUT THE GROCERY STORE.

AND THAT LAND AGAIN, PACKAGED TO DOMAIN HOMES, AND WE WERE

TRYING TO GET IT SWITCHED BACK OUT.

AT THAT TIME THAT WAS OUR MOST IDEAL LOCATION FOR A GROCERY

STORE, AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

I CAME BEFORE YOU WITH REGARD TO THE FOOD DESERT WHICH IS

RIGHT BACK TO THE GROCERY STORE IDEA.

I CAME BEFORE YOU WITH THE IDEA FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL POND

ON 26th AND 26th.

AFTER COMPLETING, I CAME AND BROUGHT THOSE IDEAS ABOUT HOW

WE CAN MAKE THAT INTO A DEVELOPMENT, POSSIBLY HAVING SOME

HOUSING, AND GROCERY STORE, CREATING OUR OWN ARMATURE WORKS

IN EAST TAMPA.

I BROUGHT THOSE IDEAS BEFORE YOU.

AND I EVEN BROUGHT THE IDEA OF THE SLOW PROCESSES THAT WE

HAVE IN EAST TAMPA, AND WHY IT TAKES SO LONG FOR THINGS TO

HAPPEN.

SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FOUR-PLUS YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN

BRINGING THESE PROBLEMS BEFORE YOU.




SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW.

AND THIS ISN'T THE FIRST -- WELL, IT MIGHT BE THE FIRST

SPECIAL CALL, BUT WE HAD WORKSHOPS FOR THE EAST TAMPA CRA,

WHERE WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS SAME THING.

SO MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S DIFFERENT NOW?

BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING THIS FOR YEARS, AND YET WE

HAVE NOTHING.

SO NONE OF THIS IS BRAND NEW.

WE ARE HEARING -- EACH OF YOU ARE SAYING THIS IS BAD, THIS

ISN'T A GOOD THING, WE NEED TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

BUT AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE BEEN BRINGING TO YOU

FOR FOUR YEARS.

WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SAY -- BECAUSE WE ARE JUST SUPPOSED TO

PROVIDE YOU WITH IDEAS, AND WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDING IDEAS.

SO WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SAY, WE ARE NOW GOING TO TAKE THOSE

AND WE ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT?

WHEN I SAY WE, I MEAN YOU.

YOU ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THE IDEAS AND HELP MOVE IT ALONG.

WHEN IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN?

BECAUSE TONIGHT I AM HEARING ALL THESE IDEAS HAPPEN AGAIN,

THAT I AM JUST GETTING FLASHBACKS FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS OF

BRINGING THESE IDEAS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR HOW EACH OF YOU PLAN TO MAKE THIS

HAPPEN FOR EAST TAMPA.

IF EACH OF YOU CAN SAY, THIS IS WHAT I AM COMMITTED TO, SO




NOW WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SAY, WELL, GUDES IS

COMMITTED TO THIS, HURTAK, CITRO, MANISCALCO, YES, MIRANDA,

CITRO, ALL ARE COMMITTED TO THIS, SO NOW WE HAVE SOMETHING

THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE TO THE BANK.

SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, HOW DO YOU PLAN TO TAKE THIS, WHAT WE

HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT STAFF, IDEAS THAT WE HAVE,

EVERYTHING, HOW DO YOU PLAN TO TURN THIS AROUND FOR EAST

TAMPA?

BECAUSE IT'S NOT A NEW IDEA AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING SEPARATE.

COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU HEARD FOR

THE FIRST TIME.

21:00:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?

21:00:42 >> WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ANSWERS.

21:00:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU ARE ASKING FOR ANSWERS FROM THIS

COUNCIL? MS. GOODLEY, YOU KNOW, I HAVE ASKED THESE THINGS

SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE.

ASKED WHEN I WAS IN THE CDC.

I HATE THAT WORD, STRONG FOR AMERICA.

I CAN'T TELL EMPLOYEES WHAT TO DO.

I CAN ASK.

I CAN PUT A MOTION IN, AND THE BEST ANSWER I GET WHATEVER

STAFF BRINGS ME BACK, AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO GO WITH.

I CAN'T TELL STAFF.

ALL I CAN DO IS BOARD DECISIONS AND LEGISLATION.

AS FAR AS I CAN PUT THE IDEA ON THE TABLE.




AND I CAN PUT A MOTION IN, GET A SECOND, GET A ROLL CALL.

IT GOES TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR REVIEW.

WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR STAFF MEETINGS, AND IN 30 DAYS OR 60

DAYS WHEN WE ASK FOR IT TO COME BACK, THEY COME BACK AND

STAND BEFORE US AND TELL US WHAT THEY CAN DO AND WHAT THEY

CAN'T DO.

I ALWAYS SAY I DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU CAN'T DO, I WANT

TO KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO.

SO FOR ME, IT'S MORE OR LESS ONCE WE MAKE THE

RECOMMENDATION, WE NEED THE SUPPORT OF THE ADMINISTRATION.

NOW, THE CRA IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AGAIN, THE WAY OUR CRA IS WRITTEN, WE HAVE AN AGENDA, DON'T

ANSWER TO US.

THEN WHAT YOU HAVE IS THE MANAGER THEN TAKES IT UP TO THE

CITY EMPLOYEES TO TRY TO IMPLEMENT, OR GET HIS FEEDBACK OR

WHATEVER.

AND AGAIN, GIVE ME A YAY OR NAY.

I CAN'T MAKE THEM DO ANYTHING.

NOW, MR. CARLSON SAYS DO WE WANT TO OUTSOURCE?

THAT MEANS MORE MONEY IS GOING TO COME OUT OF YOUR CRA

BUDGET VERSUS THE CITY HELP TO GET IT DONE, WHICH NOW THE

LAWYERS FEE, WE ARE PAYING THAT, PAYING DIFFERENT THINGS,

BUT IF WE SAY WE ARE GOING TO OUTSOURCE THIS PROJECT, IT

MEANS WE HAVE TO PUT THE BILL IN.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT DOWN THE ROAD.




WE HAVE TO LOOK AND SAY IT HAS TO BE OUTSOURCED AND MAYBE

THE CITY IS TOO BUSY BECAUSE THEY HAVE OTHER THINGS AND THEY

CAN'T GET THAT DONE FOR US AS FAST AS WE WANT IT DONE.

THAT'S THE BEST I CAN SEE.

SO IT FRUSTRATES ME SOMETIME.

BUT I AM GOING TO TELL YOU THE WAY IT IS.

I CAN ONLY DO WHAT I CAN DO.

AND ASK WHAT I CAN ASK.

SO THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT.

I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAKE MOTIONS AND CONTINUE TO GET

THEIR ANSWERS.

AND GET THE JOB DONE.

21:03:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

21:03:31 >>BILL CARLSON:
IN A LONG DISCUSSION THAT I WAS HAVING IT

SEEMED LIKE I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT EAST TAMPA IS REALLY

TRYING TO ADDRESS THE SYSTEMIC ISSUE THAT I THINK IS FACING

US IS THAT CRA IS A SEPARATE ENTITY FROM THE CITY, BUT WE

CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THE CITY'S APPROVAL.

EVEN THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND STAFF WE HAVE, THEY ARE ALL

CITY EMPLOYEES AND THEY REPORT TO THE CITY.

IN THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, THE HEAD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

WAS ALSO HEAD OF CRA AND THE CRA MEETINGS LASTED A HALF

HOUR, AND THE CRAs WERE SUBSIDIES FOR DEVELOPERS, THAT THE

ADMINISTRATION WANTED TO DEVELOP.

AND ALSO BY THE WAY, I HAVE ATTENDED TWO OR THREE OF YOUR




CAC MEETINGS, BUT THEN WE GOT A HAND SLAP BY THE LAWYERS WHO

SAID YOU GUYS CAN'T ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS.

WELL, HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO ANYTHING IF WE CAN'T ATTEND

THE MEETINGS, CAN'T LISTEN TO ANYTHING?

ALL WE HEAR IS SHORT UPDATES EVERY MONTH AND THE EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR WOULD UPDATE US 15 MINUTES EVERY MONTH.

SO WHAT I WOULD -- WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IN THE NEXT MEETING

IS I AM GOING PROPOSE GETTING A FULL TIME EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR.

WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO RELY ON MS. TRAVIS' UNIQUE EXPERIENCE

AND SUCCESSES, BUT WE NEED A FULL-TIME PERSON TO LOOK OVER

THIS.

IT'S OUR DUTY IN THE WAY WE ARE USING THIS MONEY AND WE

CAN'T HAVE A SITUATION LIKE THIS.

I THINK WE HAVE GOT GREAT STAFF MEMBERS ASSIGNED, BUT THEY

NEED DIRECTION AND THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO WOULD WORK WITH

YOU ALL AND THEY NEED TO NOT BE STOPPED BY THE CITY

ADMINISTRATION FROM DOING IT.

IF THE ONLY WAY TO HANDLE IT IS TO HAND IT OVER TO THE

MAYOR'S OFFICE THEN WE HAVE TO GET RESULTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF MORRIS WOULD LET US DO THIS, BUT WE ARE

SEVEN OF US IN CRA DISTRICT.

WHAT IF WE EACH TOOK ONE AND SAID WE'LL LISTEN AND BE THE

LIAISON BACK TO THE BOARD.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.




BUT IF THIS CRA BOARD IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRA

DISTRICTS AND MONEY, WE HAVE TO BE MORE INVOLVED, AND WE

HAVE TO GET A LOT MORE INFORMATION, CAN'T RELY COMPLETELY ON

STAFF AND DEFINITELY CAN'T RELY ON THE CITY.

THANK YOU.

21:05:27 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
JUST TO ADDRESS IT, WITH YOU ALL ATTENDING

CAC MEETINGS, WE HAVE AN ADOPTED POLICY ABOUT HOW THAT'S

SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.

BUT PART OF THE ISSUE IS, IF MORE THAN ONE OF YOU ATTEND A

CAC MEETING, THEN THERE IS A RISK OF THIS BECOMING A

VIOLATION OF SUNSHINE, BECAUSE THEN YOU ARE BASICALLY

CONDUCTING CRA BUSINESS OR DISCUSSING ISSUES THAT WOULD COME

BEFORE YOU AS A BODY, AND YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO OF YOU

DISCUSSING THAT OUTSIDE OF THE NOTICED MEETING.

21:06:00 >>BILL CARLSON:
COULD WE EACH BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE, ONE

OF US RESPONSIBLE FOR TWO, BUT IF WE COULD EACH BE

RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE THEN WE CAN ATTEND AND ADVOCATE LIKE A

LIAISON LIKE --

21:06:12 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
WE CAN LOOK AT TWEAKING YOUR POLICY AS

LONG AS IT'S ONLY ONE OF YOU THAT ATTEND, AND I WOULD BE

HAPPY TO LOOK AT THE SUNSHINE LAWS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT

RUNNING AFOUL WITH THAT AND THAT'S SOMETHING WEAK LOOK AT.

WHAT YOUR POLICY SAYS NOW IS ONE OF YOU, NOT MORE THAN ONE

BUT ONE OF YOU CAN ATTEND A CAC MEETING.

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PUBLICLY ANNOUNCE THAT, AND ANNOUNCE THE




REASON WHY YOU ARE ATTENDING THE CAC MEETING, AND YOU ARABLE

THERE FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE OR REASON, AND THEN YOU LEAVE

THE CAC MEETING.

ALSO, PART OF THIS, THE STRUCTURE OF ALL OF THIS IS THAT THE

CACS ARE SUPPOSED TO OPERATE AS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO YOU

ALL, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND

WHAT THE CACS ARE SAYING AND THAT'S COMMUNICATED TO YOU AND

THAT'S PART OF YOUR CONCERN.

BUT YOU ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CACS ARE ALLOWED TO

INDEPENDENTLY KIND OF FORMULATE POLICIES AND PROPOSALS THAT

COME BEFORE YOU.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE IDEA.

BUT IT'S A COMMUNITY BASED KIND OF CONCEPT AND NOT SOMETHING

THAT'S PUSHED DOWN FROM THE CRA BOARD.

I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE CONSTRUCTED IT THE WAY

WE HAVE.

21:07:20 >> COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?

21:07:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IN RESPONSE TO WHAT SHOULD BE DONE IS I

WANT EAST TAMPA PRIORITIZED LIKE OTHER PROJECTS IN OTHER

PARTS OF THE CITY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE JULIAN LANE RIVERFRONT

PARK, THE PREVIOUS MAYOR WANTED A MOTHER'S DAY WEEKEND

COMPLETION DATE, AND MOTHER'S DAY WEEKEND THERE WAS A BIG

SHEBANG, $36 MILLION.

THE HANNA PROJECT, THAT HAS AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE OF

NEXT SPRING, NEXT APRIL, I THINK.




RIGHT BEFORE OR RIGHT AFTER ELECTIONS.

RIGHT?

BUT 100 MILLION PLUS DOLLAR PROJECT GETS A COMPLETION DATE

BUT EAST TAMPA CAN'T GET BASIC THINGS DONE WITHOUT BEING

HELD UP FOR WHATEVER REASON, BUT WHAT IS PRIORITIZED,

WHOEVER IS IN POWER, WHATEVER, IT GETS DONE.

EAST TAMPA DESERVES THAT SAME RESPECT AND PRIORITY.

THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT.

21:08:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.

21:08:20 >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU KNOW, WHEN I SPEAK ON THINGS, I WILL WEAR

BOTH MY CITY COUNCIL HAT AND MY CRA HAT BECAUSE I KIND OF

THINK THEY OBVIOUSLY GO TOGETHER.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE OF THE THINGS I BROUGHT UP TONIGHT, I

WOULD LOVE TO SEE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAWS, MR. MASSEY SPOKE

ABOUT, IF WE CAN GET CRAs TO START DEALING FURTHER WITH

TRAINING ISSUES, AND WE HAVE THE GOOD FOLKS FROM THE SKILLS

CENTER HERE TONIGHT, BUT PARTICULARLY GIVEN TO MAKE SURE WE

ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THURSDAY IN TAMPA CITY COUNCIL

WHICH IS RETURNING CITIZENS.

IF WE CAN GET CRAs IN A LEGALLY CONSISTENT AND PROPER WAY

TO GRANTS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, TO HELP SUPPORT TRAINING IN

EAST TAMPA AND IN OUR CRAs, FOR FOLKS WHO ARE LEAVING

PRISONS AND JUST WANT TO RETURN TO WORK AND JUST PROVIDE

MONEY FOR THEIR FAMILIES AND PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE, THAT'S

AWESOME.




I'M 110% COMMITTED TO THAT.

ONE THING THAT ALSO THAT WE PASSED, I GUESS LAST WEEK, IN

CITY COUNCIL, IS MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF OUR PARKS ARE

DISABILITY FRIENDLY, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ACUTELY

AFFECTS EAST TAMPA.

A LOT OF CHILDREN THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR CITY WITH SPECIAL

NEED, DISABILITIES, BUT IN CERTAIN PARTS OF OUR CITY THEY

ARE NOT LOOKED AT BY GOVERNMENT, AND BY PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS,

THE WAY THAT SHE THEY SHOULD.

AND I THINK THAT PARKS AND RECREATION IS ONE OF THOSE GREAT

AREAS, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING TO PUSH FOR YOUTH PROGRAMS,

AGAIN, IF WE CAN, THROUGH OUR CRAS.

ET CETERA.

ON TOP OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THINGS

LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THINGS LIKE TRANSPORTATION, I WANT

TO SEE TO IT THAT WE HAVE WHAT I WOULD CALL FOR LACK OF USE

OF A BETTER TERM, SOCIAL WELFARE AGENDA, WHEN IT COMES TO

THE GENERAL WELFARE, THE GREATER GOOD, THE GREATER GOOD IN

TERMS OF INVESTING IN PROGRAMS THAT PUT OUR KIDS TO WORK,

THAT PUT PEOPLE WHO WANT KILLS ON THE PATHWAY TO GETTING

THOUGH SKILLS AND GIVING PEOPLE HOPE AND OPPORTUNITY.

I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT'S WORTH IT AND

OBVIOUSLY A STRONG SUPPORTER OF THAT.

JUST SOME GENERAL IDEAS, AGAIN KIND OF WEARING BOTH HATS IN

THOSE REMARKS.




21:10:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?

21:10:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA THAN MOST MAYBE.

I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A CAC MEETING.

VERY SIMPLE THE WAY I LOOK AT IT MAY BE DIFFERENT, AND MAY

BE TOTALLY WRONG.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE A SITTING COUNCILMEMBER AND A

COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, SITTING HERE, AND LISTENING TO THE

CRA, WHEN I HAVE ALREADY BEEN THERE, AND NOT BECAUSE OF ME,

BUT THIS IS MY FEELING PERSONALLY.

IF I SIT THERE AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, SOMEBODY MAY SAY, I

DON'T WANT TO CHANGE ANYONE'S IDEA.

THIS IS YOUR BABY.

THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'M ALL

FOR IT.

BUT I HAVE GOT TO GET MYSELF AWAY FROM THAT, BECAUSE WHEN I

SIT HERE, AS A MEMBER OF A VOTING BODY OF A CRA, I DON'T

WANT TO HAVE A CONFLICT.

I DON'T WANT TO REMEMBER ANYTHING THAT I SAW. I WANT TO

WORK ON IT TO GET IT ACCOMPLISHED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER,

WHETHER THAT'S RIGHT OR BAD, I AM NOT APOLOGIZING.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY I FEEL.

ALSO, CARRYING ALL THE ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT.

NEVER.

WHY?

YOU CAN FIX A PROBLEM.




YOU CAN NEVER FIX A PERCEPTION OF A PROBLEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

21:11:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

21:11:45 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM GOING TO GIVE THIS A SHOT BECAUSE YOU

ASKED FOR SPECIFIC THINGS.

SO WHAT I AM GOING TO DO, AND BECAUSE I JUST HAVEN'T HAD A

CHANCE, I HAVE ONLY BEEN IN THIS POSITION FOR TWO WEEKS, I

GOING TO READ THE SAP.

I AM GOING TO READ IT.

I AM GOING TO GO BACK AND READ THE CRP.

I AM GOING TO FOCUS ON THIS RETREAT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE

THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO MAKE ANYTHING

BETTER.

AND I AM ALSO GOING TO SAY THAT I WILL -- IF I CAN'T GO TO

THE HEARING, I WILL READ THE MINUTES.

I WILL ASK QUESTIONS, IF I HAVE QUESTIONS, I WILL ASK

QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

IF I AM ALLOWED TO CALL MS. TATE AND ASK QUESTIONS I WILL DO

THAT.

SO THOSE ARE THE THREE ACTIONABLE ITEMS THAT I AM GOING TO

DO FOR YOU.

21:12:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MRS. GOODLEY?

MANY OF YOU ON THE CAC BOARD HAVE SEEN ME AT YOUR MEETINGS.

I GO THERE STRICTLY FOR ONE THING.

PUBLIC COMMENT.




I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SAYING.

I HAVE BEEN THERE ON MANY, MANY INDICATIONS, WHICH I AM SURE

EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM, BUT THE MINUTE ONE MOTION IS MADE,

I'M OUT THE DOOR, SIMPLY BECAUSE I WANT YOUR INFORMATION TO

COME HERE.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT AT THE CAC MEETING.

MY GRANDMOTHER TOLD ME YESTERDAY IS PASSED, TOMORROW MAY

NEVER COME, TODAY IS HERE AND NOW.

AND WHAT WE HAVE STARTED HERE AND NOW IS A MAJOR CONCERN OF

MINE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES, FOR CALLING FOR THIS.

BUT WE HAVE HEARD A WHOLE PLETHORA OF THINGS THAT WE -- WHEN

I SAY WE, NEED TO WORK ON.

MY GRANDMOTHER ALSO TOLD ME, WE COULD FAIL ON OUR OWN.

WE NEED OTHERS TO SUCCEED.

AND I'M HOPING MY FOCUS IS GOING TO BE USING MS. TRAVIS'

SKILLS, MR. McCRAY'S SKILLS, THE CAC SKILLS, AND CONCERNS.

I WANT THIS TO MOVE FORWARD.

I WANT THIS TO BE THE BEST CAC -- CRA THE CITY OF TAMPA.

THAT IS MY FOCUS, IS TO HAVE RENEWED RESPECT, WORKING

TOGETHER, AND GETTING THINGS DONE.

MS. GOODLEY, THAT'S MY ANSWER TO YOU.

21:14:35 >> THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GOT TO ABOUT

ATTENDING CAC MEETINGS BUT THAT WASN'T WHAT I WAS ASKING




ABOUT.

IT WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO DO, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN

HEARING THIS FOR OVER FOUR YEARS, WHAT WE COMMITTED TO DO

THIS TIME TO MAKE IT HAPPEN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE

THIS ISN'T NEW.

EVERYTHING YOU ARE HEARING IS REGURGITATED FOR FOUR YEARS.

THAT WAS ULTIMATELY WHAT I WAS ASKING.

SO I AM GOING TO LET --

21:15:06 >> AND NOW WE HAVE CHANGES, AND MY COMMITMENT IS TO MAKE

SURE THOSE CHANGES COME TO FRUITION.

21:15:11 >> THANK YOU.

21:15:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. BURTON.

21:15:14 >> SO WE BIRTH THE BABY AND THE BABY IS ALMOST 20 YEARS OLD.

AND I CAN TELL YOU AIN'T NO DEALS BEING MADE AT THE CRA

MEETING.

MAYBE -- IT DON'T HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT.

THAT THIS PASSIVE ATTEMPT, I THINK COUNCILMAN GUIDO AND BILL

DID AS NON-BLACK MEN, WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT,

STRONG FORM OF MAYOR, WHAT THAT MEANS.

A DELIBERATE ACTION, WHETHER THAT MAYOR, THIS MAYOR OR OTHER

MAYORS THAT HAS MADE A DECISION THAT THIS COMMUNITY AIN'T

GOING TO MOVE NO FURTHER.

WE ARE PAYING IN SALARIES, I BELIEVE, OVER HALF A MILLION

DOLLARS, OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN SALARIES, AND WE ARE




GOING TO GET ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE TALKING

ABOUT, AND ARE WE SAYING THAT'S GOING TO THE RFP, IF YOU

DIDN'T DO IT BEFORE, DON'T TRY TO RECREATE THE WHEEL.

WE ARE TWEAKING OURSELVES.

WE JUST WANT SIMPLE ROOFS TO BE REHABBED ON THE PROPERTY.

WE HAVE $2 MILLION IN THE BUDGET.

WE WANT SIMPLE HOUSES SO WORKERS STAY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IF THIS MAYOR, AND YOU ALL, PLACATE TO HER WISHES, THAT YOU

ARE GOING TO IGNORE EAST TAMPA BECAUSE OF SOME STRONG WILLED

MAYOR, I NEVER HEARD OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE YOU GOT A

SINGLE VOTE FOR EVERYBODY.

WE HAVE ASKING, SOME PEOPLE DO SOME BEGGING, NOTHING.

I JUST COME OUT AND PUT IT ON THE TABLE.

AND SO THIS IS WAY PAST MY BEDTIME.

BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE LAID A LOT OUT

TO YOU ALL.

YOU ALL KNOW THE PROBLEMS IN EAST TAMPA.

WE CANNOT AS LEADERS GO BACK IN GOOD FAITH AND SAY WE HAD A

GOOD CONVERSATION.

WE NEED TO KNOW THAT THIS STAFF IS GOING TO BE AT 100%

PERFORMANCE.

WE CAN SAY THAT.

BUT IF THE MAYOR SAYS NO, THEN HOW ARE YOU GOING TO REBUKE

WHAT SHE'S SAYING?

THAT'S WHAT I AM GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR.




WHO GOING TO STAND UP TO THE MAYOR WHEN EAST TAMPA IS JUST

DROWNING IN MISERY?

IF THEY DON'T SAY HOPELESS, WHEN WE GOT CONTINUING GUN

BATTLES, WE GOT DOUBLE DIGIT UNEMPLOYMENT, WE GOT HOUSES

FALLING APART, THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE COMING IN AND

BUILDING FOR $400,000.

I WANT MY LEGACY TO SAY SOMETHING FOR ME.

POOR WOMAN, COULD SAY UNSKILLED WOMAN, YOU COULD EVEN SAY

UNEDUCATED, BUT ONE THING PLEASE SAY THIS ABOUT ME, I'M

DETERMINED TO FIGHT LIKE HELL ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE

GATE.

OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES IT.

WE WANT IT.

WE ARE DEPENDING ON YOU TO DO IT.

WE VOTE FOR YOU GUYS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE TO GO AND TELL THE MAYOR AND THE STAFF,

EAST TAMPA IS TOP PRIORITY, LIKE MS. GOODLEY SAY, WE ASKED

FOR FOUR YEARS AGO, I APPRECIATE HER LEADERSHIP THAT SHE'S

STILL IN THE GAME.

WE WANT IT DONE AND WE WANT IT DONE IMMEDIATELY.

SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR IN APRIL, DON'T PLAN US NO CHRISTMAS,

WE WANT TO SEE A REHAB PROGRAM ASAP.

WE WANT THAT ASAP.

WE WANT TO SEE A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WITH WORKERS IN OUR

COMMUNITY.




WE GOT THE MONEY.

MAKE IT HAPPEN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

21:18:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MS. BURTON.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE ONE LAST AGENDA ITEM, AND THAT'S MEETINGS AND

LOGISTICS.

WHICH CAC MEMBERS WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT MEETINGS AND

LOGISTICS?

21:19:02 >> I KNOW THE HOUR IS LATE, SO I WILL MAKE IT REALLY QUICK.

WHEN I CAME ON THE CAC, THE ACCOMMODATIONS WERE HORRENDOUS.

I THINK SOMEBODY TOOK THEIR iPHONE AND PUT IT ON THE TABLE

IN THE MIDDLE OF A ROOM AND EVERYBODY TRIED TO YELL AND

SCREAM AND HEAR WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

AND IT WAS JUST A COMPLETE DISREGARD AND DISRESPECT FOR WHAT

THE CITY CAN PROVIDE.

AND IT IS THE EPITOME OF SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS YOU SEE.

I THINK COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU KNOW, LOOKED AT IT, AND IT

LOOKS LIKE A MOVIE PRODUCTION THAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT ROOM

NOW.

BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL HE REALLY STOMPED AND YELLED AND

KICKED DEMANDING THAT WE GET THE APPROPRIATE CAMERAS IN THE

ROOM, MICROPHONES ON ALL THE TABLES, THAT THE SCREEN WOULD

BE SET UP, AND ALL THE STAFFING YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT THING

OPERATE.




WE NEED THAT KIND OF INPUT APPLIED TO ALL THE OTHER THINGS

THAT WE NEED.

SO THE LOCATION FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS A GREAT LOCATION.

THE MEETING ROOM ACCOMMODATES PEOPLE.

I THINK WE COULD USE A PODIUM FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO AND

STAND AT WHEN THEY COME TO SPEAK.

RIGHT NOW IT'S A TABLE.

BUT FOR WHAT WE HAVE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUT, AND THAT'S

18 YEARS LATER, IT'S JUST THE EPITOME OF I THINK OF WHAT CAN

BE DONE IF THE ENERGY AND EFFORT IS PUT BEHIND GETTING

THINGS AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL.

SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WE DO HAVE SOME -- SENIORS WANT

THAT ROOM, BUT BESIDES THAT, THE ACCOMMODATION FOR THE

MEETING I THINK IS MORE THAN ADEQUATE.

THANK YOU.

21:20:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. PARIS.

ANYONE ELSE?

ANY OTHER CAC MEMBERS WANT TO SPEAK?

MS. TRAVIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT?

21:21:05 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
MEETINGS AND LOGISTICS?

I WENT TO RAGAN PARK. I HAVE TO AGREE WITH WHAT MR. PARIS

SAID, THERE WAS A LOT OF STAFF, I.T., THAT WAS PUTTING

TOGETHER THE MICROPHONES, AND IT WAS REALLY A PRODUCTION,

OUTSIDE OF MY EXPERTISE, BUT I WAS JUST TALKING TO MR.

McCRAY THAT WE CAN TRY TO RECONFIGURE THE ROOM TO MAKE




SURE THERE'S A PODIUM THERE AND MAKE SURE LOGISTICALLY THE

MEETING SPACE FUNCTIONS FOR THE CAC.

ALSO, WHEN WE TALKING ABOUT RETREATS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE

THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING OUR VOLUNTEERS SO THEY CAN DO THE

WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO NO CHANGES TO THAT, AS MUCH AS WE CAN TRY TO ACCOMMODATE,

THERE WILL BE A PODIUM IN PLACE AT THE NEXT MEETING.

21:22:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ONE QUESTION, I WOULD LIKE TO THROW OUT TO

SOME OF THE CAC MEMBERS.

ARE THE DATES AND TIMES CONVENIENT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR

THE CAC MEMBERS?

21:22:20 >> IT'S UP AND DOWN.

I THINK THE MAJORITY OF MY BOARD MEMBERS, IF I AM CORRECT,

WORK.

SO WHAT WE DID DO, WE VOTED ON THE CAC MEETINGS BEGINNING

NEXT MONTH, MAY THROUGH SEPTEMBER, WE'LL MEET IN THE EVENING

TIME.

AND THEN THE FOLLOWING TIME WE'LL MEET IN THE MORNING.

IT'S A STRUGGLE.

BUT WE DO IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEE OUR COMMUNITY MOVE

FORWARD.

IT'S A STRUGGLE FOR THOSE THAT WORK.

IT'S A STRUGGLE FOR THOSE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DRIVE BETTER

IN THE EVENINGS BUT WE DO IT BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE DONE.

WE WANT TO SEE EAST TAMPA MOVE FORWARD.




21:23:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HEARD FROM

THE COMMUNITY, IS THEY WORK, MOTHERS HAVE CHILDREN, THEY

CAN'T MAKE IT THERE IN THE MEETING, AND THEY CAN'T BE ONLINE

BECAUSE THEY ARE AT WORK.

IT WOULD BE MORE CONVENIENT FOR THEM TO BE THERE IN THE

EVENINGS AFTER WORK, AND THEY CAN BRING THE CHILDREN ALONG

TO SHOW HOW THINGS WORK WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I ASK THAT QUESTION.

21:23:36 >> AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO ADD ABOUT THAT.

WE NEED BETTER CHAIRS IN THERE.

WE HAVE SENIOR CITIZENS THAT COME IN AND IT'S VERY

UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN YOU ARE SITTING FOR TWO HOURS IN THE TYPE

OF CHAIRS THAT ARE LOCATED IN OUR FACILITY.

WE NEED BETTER CHAIRS TO SUPPORT MYSELF, MY LUMBAR.

I HAVE BEEN REAR-ENDED.

AND I HAVE TO STAND UP AND TAKE A WALK, BECAUSE OF PRESSURE.

BUT THE CHAIRS WE HAVE IN RAGAN PARK, WE NEED BETTER.

BECAUSE WHEN YOUR BODY IS STRESSED, YOUR MIND IS NOT

THINKING WITH ALL CLARITY.

SO I'M ASKING FOR THAT. SO WE DO WANT MINUTES AS STATED IN

A TIMELY MANNER WITH ALL OF THE PACKAGE INDENTS SO WE CAN

READ THIS STUFF, AND ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT

READING INFORMATION, DON'T EXPECT TO COME TO THE MEETING AND

NOT BE PREPARED.

WE HAVE GOT TO PREPARE OURSELVES AS WELL.




IF HE'S PROVIDING THOSE MINUTES WITHIN SEVEN DAYS, THEN WE

HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO READ OVER THEM, AND COME WITH OUR

QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.

WE WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS.

WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

AND WE ARE READY.

WE ARE MORE THAN READY.

I DON'T HAVE THE PERSONALITY OF MS. BURTON, I DON'T HAVE THE

PERSONALITY OF MS. GOODLEY, BUT OUR COMMITTEE IS READY.

LET'S GET STARTED.

SO THANK YOU.

21:25:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. TRAVIS, DO YOU HAVE ANY CLOSING

STATEMENTS?

ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY CLOSING STATEMENTS?

I WILL GO FROM MY RIGHT TO LEFT.

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

COUNCILMAN GUDES.

CAN COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

21:25:31 >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST A QUICK NOTE THAT I AM JUST LOOKING

FORWARD TO GETTING TO KNOW THE EAST TAMPA CRA A BIT BETTER.

SO GIVE ME A CHANCE.

21:25:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.

21:25:47 >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.

21:25:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
JUST THANK YOU FOR COMING UP AND

EXPRESSING YOUR VIEWS.




21:25:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING A VERY

PRODUCTIVE MEETING.

YES, WE HAVE SPOKEN A LOT.

WE HAVE HEARD A LOT.

WE NOW HAVE SOMEONE NEW.

WE HAVE SOMEONE ALSO THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE BUT

KNOWS THE COMMUNITY.

AGAIN, LET'S WORK TOGETHER.

TOGETHER WE CAN SOLVE A LOT OF THINGS.

I LOOK FORWARD AT OUR NEXT CRA BOARD MEETING HEARING SOME

WONDERFUL THINGS COME BACK.

MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

AYE?

ANY OPPOSED?

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

(MEETING ADJOURNED)



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