TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 21, 2022
9:00 A.M.
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09:06:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THE BROADCAST STARTING?
09:06:16 [GAVEL SOUNDING]
09:06:24 GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA
09:06:25 CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
09:06:31 AT THIS TIME, I DEFER TO COUNCILMEMBER ORLANDO GUDES.
09:06:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WITH HEAVY HEARTS, I LOST A FRIEND.
09:06:41 SOMEONE WHO CAME TO ME AT A TIME THAT I NEEDED
09:06:41 SOMEONE.
09:06:43 I DIDN'T ASK.
09:06:47 SHE CAME TO ME, AND SAID, I WILL BE YOUR NEXT AIDE.
09:06:48 I WILL MAKE YOU SMILE.
09:06:51 WE ARE GOING TO PRAY EVERY DAY, AND I WILL MAKE YOU
09:06:51 HAPPY.
09:06:55 I SAID, WELL, GO HOME AND ASK YOUR HUSBAND AND YOUR
09:06:56 FAMILY IF IT IS OKAY.
09:07:00 BECAUSE IT IS A BIG JOB TO UNDERTAKE IN DISTRICT 5.
09:07:02 SHE SAID, ALL RIGHT, SIR.
09:07:05 SHE CAME BACK THE NEXT DAY AND SAID MY HUSBAND SAID IT
09:07:08 IS OKAY, AND MY FAMILY SAID IT IS OKAY.
09:07:11 I SAID, WELL, OKAY.
09:07:13 WE WILL GET STARTED.
09:07:17 SHE SAID BEFORE WE GET STARTED, WE ARE GOING TO PRAY.
09:07:20 WE ARE GOING TO PRAY EVERY DAY IN THIS OFFICE.
09:07:23 AND WHEN I COME IN, SHE MAY HAVE ALREADY DONE A
09:07:24 BLESSING.
09:07:27 BUT WHEN I GET THERE, SHE DOES ANOTHER BLESSING.
09:07:29 BEFORE WE LEAVE, WE DO A BLESSING.
09:07:33 AND IN A TIME I NEEDED HER, THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS
09:07:33 SHE WAS THERE.
09:07:35 DON'T YOU WORRY ABOUT NOTHING.
09:07:36 GOD HAS US.
09:07:39 HE HAS YOUR PEOPLE.
09:07:41 THE PERSON WHO PRAY EVERY DAY.
09:07:43 SO I KNOW MISS DEBBY.
09:07:47 I KNOW WHEN SHE LEFT US ON MONDAY, THE GATES OF HEAVEN
09:07:51 WERE ALREADY OPEN FOR HER.
09:07:54 BECAUSE HER SPIRIT WAS TOUCHED AND BLESSED BY GOD SO
09:07:57 SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY OF THE GATES OPEN.
09:08:00 WALKED RIGHT IN AND SHE SMILED LIKE SHE ALWAYS DO,
09:08:01 GENTLEMAN.
09:08:03 SHE SMILED, LAUGHED, YOU KNOW.
09:08:06 CHRISTMASTIME, WE ARE GOING TO MISS HER.
09:08:10 WE ARE GOING TO MISS HER BECAUSE SHE LET EVERYBODY FEEL
09:08:11 HAPPY WITH JOY.
09:08:16 SHE COME IN WITH HER CHRISTMAS OUTFIT ON ALL WEEK LONG.
09:08:18 MAKES EVERYBODY HAPPY.
09:08:18 SHE MADE ME HAPPY.
09:08:23 SHE MADE ME -- IN MY DARKEST DAYS AND DARKEST MOMENTS
09:08:24 MONTHS AGO.
09:08:25 SHE CALLED ME.
09:08:26 SHE PRAYED.
09:08:29 SHE SAID YOU ARE GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT.
09:08:30 YOU ARE GOING TO GET THROUGH IT.
09:08:32 GOD KNOWS YOUR HEART.
09:08:38 I AM GOING TO MISS HER BECAUSE SHE DID -- HE SENT HER
09:08:40 TO ME AT A TIME I NEEDED SOMEBODY.
09:08:41 AND SHE WAS HERE.
09:08:44 AND I AM BLESSED TO HAVE KNOWN HER.
09:08:48 BLESSED TO HAVE -- JUST BE ABLE TO GET THAT OPPORTUNITY
09:08:50 BECAUSE SHE WAS HAPPY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
09:08:51 SHE WAS HAPPY.
09:08:52 SHE WANTED IT.
09:08:53 SHE WAS HAPPY.
09:08:56 WOULD DO ANYTHING.
09:08:59 MR. CHAIRMAN, HER SERVICES WILL BE THIS SATURDAY AT 3
09:09:08 P.M. AT THE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, 4011 EAST 21ST
09:09:09 STREET IN TAMPA.
09:09:13 THAT IS IN HARLAN PINES.
09:09:15 FAMILY WILL TAKE IN GUESTS AND FRIENDS.
09:09:18 ALL I WANT TO SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN MAKE A MOTION
09:09:21 FOR COMMENDATION FOR MISS DEBBY.
09:09:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND
09:09:26 SECONDED.
09:09:27 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:09:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT AND SHE WOULD
09:09:32 LOVE THAT AND HER FAMILY WOULD LOVE THAT.
09:09:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:09:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AN INDESCRIBABLE EMPTINESS IN CITY
09:09:39 HALL.
09:09:42 COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU SAID IT BEST.
09:09:47 DEBBIE WAS AN ANGEL HERE AND AN ANGEL ABOVE LOOKING DOWN
09:09:49 ON EACH OF US.
09:09:50 A WOMAN OF DEEP FAITH.
09:09:51 STRONG.
09:09:53 FEARED NOTHING NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT THE SITUATION
09:09:59 AND SHE PASSED AWAY MONDAY SUDDENLY.
09:10:02 AND TRULY IRREPLACEABLE INDIVIDUAL.
09:10:04 SO THANK YOU, SIR.
09:10:06 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
09:10:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
09:10:11 >>LUIS VIERA: I ECHO SENTIMENTS FOR DEBBIE, AND
09:10:15 COUNCILMAN GUDES, SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS AND THE LOSS FOR
09:10:16 DEBBIE'S FAMILY.
09:10:18 SHE WAS A VERY DECENT PERSON.
09:10:21 A GREAT COMPASSION.
09:10:24 I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, JUST MANY EXPERIENCES WITH HER
09:10:27 THAT WE HAD TALKING ON MANY ISSUES.
09:10:31 AND IT'S -- IT'S FUNNY -- THIS IS PERSONAL, BUT
09:10:32 WHATEVER.
09:10:37 MY SON AND I WE -- WE KID AND SOMETIMES FILM MOVIES.
09:10:39 IT IS FUN, AND I HAD STUFF THAT WE DO.
09:10:42 AND DEBBIE WAS IN ONE OF OUR MOVIES A YEAR AND A HALF
09:10:44 AGO, AND I SAW IT WITH MY SON.
09:10:46 AND SHE WAS JUST -- SHE WAS A NICE LADY.
09:10:48 SHE WAS A VERY GOOD LADY.
09:10:50 JUST A HARD-WORKING WOMAN.
09:10:53 AND SHE WON'T BE FORGOTTEN.
09:10:57 SO -- I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MAYBE IF -- MAYBE AN
09:11:00 ORGANIZATION, ATU OR SOMEONE LIKE THAT COULD START UP A
09:11:04 FUND, 501-C-3 SO MAYBE FROM OUR CITY COUNCIL OFFICES
09:11:07 GIVE TO IT FOR DEBBIE'S FAMILY.
09:11:09 JUST AN IDEA.
09:11:10 BUT THANK YOU, SIR.
09:11:13 AGAIN, JUST GOD BLESS HER.
09:11:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:11:15 ANYBODY ELSE?
09:11:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
09:11:22 DEBBIE WAS A KIND, SWEET PERSON BEFORE SHE WAS
09:11:25 COUNCILMAN GUDES' LEGISLATIVE AIDE.
09:11:27 SHE WAS OUR FRONT DESK PERSON.
09:11:29 THE PEOPLE THAT CAME TO SEE US, THAT WAS THE FIRST
09:11:30 POINT OF CONTACT.
09:11:34 NOT EVERYBODY COMES INTO CITY COUNCIL OFFICE WITH A
09:11:35 SMILING FACE.
09:11:38 BUT MISS MERCER MADE SURE THEY DID HAVE A SMILING FACE.
09:11:43 SHE IS GOING TO BE GREATLY MISSED.
09:11:45 AND HER VOICE WILL ECHO.
09:11:49 WE HAVE LOCKS ON OUR DOORS THAT WE HAVE TO PUNCH IN TO
09:11:50 PASS.
09:11:52 AND SHE WOULD ALWAYS ANTICIPATE WHEN ONE OF US WAS
09:11:57 COMING THROUGH THE DOOR AND YELL OUT, IT'S OPEN!
09:12:00 YOU I WILL MISS THAT.
09:12:01 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:12:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:12:03 YES, SIR.
09:12:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:12:09 YOU KNOW OUR OFFICE IS RIGHT NEXT TO MR. GUDES' OFFICE
09:12:10 AND DEBBIE.
09:12:12 AND I WOULD SEE HER JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY I WAS IN THE
09:12:16 BUILDING, AND SHE WAS IN THE BUILDING ALL THE TIME.
09:12:20 AND THERE WASN'T A BETTER PERSON, A HUMAN BEING, THEN
09:12:24 DEBBIE MERCER.
09:12:30 SHE HAD ILLNESSES IN THE FAMILY AND WE SPOKE OF FAMILY
09:12:32 ILLNESSES AND HISTORY IN LIFE.
09:12:36 TO ME SHE WAS ONE OF THE MOST ROUNDED PERSONS I EVER
09:12:37 MET.
09:12:40 SHE HAS A SMILE ON HER FACE NO MATTER HOW CRITICAL IT
09:12:40 WAS.
09:12:45 NO MATTER HOW SERIOUS IT WAS WITH ILLNESS IN HER FAMILY
09:12:46 AND OTHER PEOPLE'S FAMILIES.
09:12:48 SHE DID IT WITH A SMILE.
09:12:51 SHE TOOK LIFE AS IT CAME AND MADE CHANGES TO HELP THE
09:12:53 PEOPLE AROUND HER.
09:12:57 SHE WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY HUMAN BEING.
09:13:00 WE WILL MISS HER GREATLY.
09:13:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
09:13:03 YES.
09:13:06 >>LYNN HURTAK: I, OF COURSE, DID NOT KNOW HER AS LONG AS
09:13:10 OR AS WELL AS OTHERS, BUT SHE WAS TRULY THE VERY FIRST
09:13:14 PEOPLE TO WALK IN MY OFFICE AND SAY HELLO AND OFFER ME
09:13:17 ANY TYPE OF HELP SHE POSSIBLY COULD.
09:13:20 AND JUST TALKING.
09:13:22 WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID THE EXPERIENCE I HAD.
09:13:23 ALWAYS A SMILE.
09:13:25 ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP.
09:13:27 ALWAYS HAD A POSITIVE THOUGHT AND THAT WILL BE TRULY
09:13:28 MISSED.
09:13:31 AND SHE WILL BE TRULY MISSED.
09:13:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:13:37 ALL RIGHT.
09:13:43 IT'S MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO WELCOME COLONEL TIM
09:13:47 KEYPORTS WHO WILL GIVE THE INVOCATION, COMMUNITY
09:13:48 LEADER.
09:13:50 INVOLVED IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
09:13:53 DEEPLY WITH THE COMMUNITY GIVING HIS TIME AND SERVICE
09:13:54 TO US.
09:13:57 SO MANY INVOLVED AND SO MANY ASPECTS OF THE
09:13:59 NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVEN IN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
09:14:01 TIM KEYPORTS IS THERE.
09:14:05 IF WE CAN PLEASE STAND, AND COLONEL KEYPORTS WILL LEAD
09:14:07 US IN THE INVOCATION.
09:14:10 >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PASS A FEW WORDS BEFORE WE BOW
09:14:11 OUR HEADS.
09:14:14 I AM HONORED TO BE CALLED BY CITY COUNCIL AGAIN FOR THE
09:14:15 INVOCATION.
09:14:18 AS WE BEGIN ANOTHER WORKDAY, IMPORTANT TO TAKE A FEW
09:14:21 MINUTES TO REFLECT ON THIS PAST WEEK, ONE OF ITS MOST
09:14:22 IMPORTANT FOR CHRISTIANS.
09:14:25 WHILE ALSO RESPECTING ALL FAITHS AND ALL OTHER
09:14:26 INDIVIDUALS.
09:14:31 WE REFLECT WITH GREAT HUMILITY ON THURSDAY, GOOD FRIDAY
09:14:35 AND REJOICE THIS PAST EASTER SUNDAY.
09:14:38 ON SUNDAY, THE CHILDREN OF OUR CONGREGATION CAME TO THE
09:14:42 FRONT OF TO SING A SONG.
09:14:46 OUR PASTOR ASKED THEM OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF EASTER.
09:14:50 AND A BRAVE FOUR-YEAR-OLD LITTLE GIRL REPLIED QUITE
09:14:52 LOUDLY, IT'S JESUS'S BIRTHDAY.
09:14:53 TAKE A MINUTE.
09:14:57 OUR PASTOR USED THIS AFTER PRAISING HER FOR BEING BRAVE
09:15:01 TO SHARE THAT WE ARE, INDEED, IN CONFUSING TIMES.
09:15:05 THE PANDEMIC, THE WAR IN UKRAINE, AND EVEN OUR RECENT
09:15:11 LOSS OF DEBBIE MERCER, A WELL-LOVED CLEARLY AN LONG-TIME
09:15:13 PUBLIC SERVANT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:15:16 WE WILL HONOR YOUR NAME THROUGH OUR GOOD WORKS THIS
09:15:17 WEEK.
09:15:18 PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS.
09:15:23 IN ROMANS 13:1, SAID EVERY PERSON SHOULD BE IN
09:15:25 SUBJECTION TO THE GOVERNING AUTHORITIES.
09:15:29 FOR THERE IS NO AUTHORITY EXCEPT FROM GOD AND THOSE
09:15:31 WHICH EXIST ARE ESTABLISHED BY GOD.
09:15:35 PRAISE BE TO GOD.
09:15:38 LET THESE WORDS GUIDE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND
09:15:42 RESONATE IN YOUR HEARTS AS WE GO FORTH AND DO GOOD
09:15:44 WORKS TODAY, TOMORROW, AND AS WE PREPARE OURSELVES
09:15:48 AHEAD OF THIS COMING SUNDAY, THE TRUE START OF OUR
09:15:49 WEEK.
09:15:51 IN JESUS'S NAME WE PRAY.
09:15:53 AMEN.
09:15:56 >> AMEN.
09:16:10 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:16:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:16:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:16:16 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:16:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:16:19 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:16:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:16:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:16:23 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:16:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:16:30 MR. SHELBY.
09:16:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:16:35 GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC,
09:16:37 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:16:42 WE ARE HERE FOR TODAY'S REGULAR AGENDA ON APRIL 21,
09:16:44 2022.
09:16:47 THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH,
09:16:50 LISTEN AND VIEW THIS MEETING ON CABLE TV AT SPECTRUM
09:16:54 CHANNEL 640, FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 AND ON THE INTERNET AT
09:16:57 TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:17:00 NOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND HERE IN PERSON IN
09:17:04 CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS OR VIRTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN THIS
09:17:08 MEETING BY WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS COMMUNICATION MEDIA
09:17:08 TECHNOLOGY.
09:17:12 TO SPEAK REMOTELY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THE USE
09:17:16 OF CMT, PREREGISTRATION IS REQUIRED JUST AS TO
09:17:19 PARTICIPATE REMOTELY IN PUBLIC HEARINGS DURING TODAY'S
09:17:21 MEETING USING CMT.
09:17:23 PREREGISTRATION IS ALSO REQUIRED.
09:17:26 AND THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THAT ARE AVAILABLE BOTH IN THE
09:17:30 NOTICE OF THE MEETING AND ON THE AGENDA AND ON CITY
09:17:37 COUNCIL'S WEB SITE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.
09:17:40 PLEASE NOTE IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN QUASI-JUDICIAL
09:17:44 MATTERS, CELL PHONES AND SMARTPHONES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE
09:17:47 BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO SHARE YOUR PHONE
09:17:47 WHEN CONNECTED.
09:17:49 THOSE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY AT QUASI
09:17:54 JUDICIAL HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO CMT WITH A CAMERA AND
09:17:59 MICROPHONE ABLE TO BE SEEN BY VIDEO AND HEARD BY AUDIO
09:18:01 BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND OTHER PARTICIPANTS.
09:18:03 WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE
09:18:07 COUNCIL TO ADOPT -- WAIVE THE RULES AND ADOPT THE CMT
09:18:12 TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS AND THE --
09:18:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO WAIVE.
09:18:16 >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
09:18:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:18:19 OPPOSED?
09:18:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:18:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:18:26 MR. SHELBY, APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM TO THE
09:18:26 AGENDA.
09:18:30 IF YOU SEE THE ADDENDUM, QUITE A FEW SUBSTITUTE
09:18:30 RESOLUTIONS.
09:18:34 WHEN WE GET TO THOSE ITEMS, I WILL BRING THEM UP.
09:18:34 WHAT ELSE?
09:18:38 ITEM NUMBER, COUNCILMAN VIERA IS TO BE REMOVED, RIGHT?
09:18:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, PLEASE.
09:18:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 3.
09:18:47 SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.
09:18:47 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:18:48 OPPOSED.
09:18:52 ITEMS 20 AND 21 WILL BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION AND
09:18:53 PLACED UNDER STAFF REPORT.
09:18:55 ITEMS 20 AND 21.
09:18:57 IF PROPER STAFF IS AVAILABLE.
09:19:01 THIS IS REGARDING ROAM YARD AND THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
09:19:04 AND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.
09:19:06 WE WILL PUT THAT UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:19:08 YOU CAN STILL SPEAK ABOUT IT UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:19:09 NO CHANGE THERE.
09:19:10 DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT?
09:19:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO MOVED.
09:19:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:19:18 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:19:21 WE WON'T HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION UPDATE FROM CHIEF
09:19:21 BENNETT.
09:19:23 REGARDING STAFF REPORTS.
09:19:24 I WILL GO THROUGH THEM REAL QUICK.
09:19:27 THE AGENDA IS SHORT TODAY, BUT THERE ARE QUITE A FEW
09:19:30 LENGTHY ITEMS.
09:19:33 SO -- AND THIS WAS -- I WILL COME BACK TO THIS.
09:19:37 THIS IS COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:19:41 IF WE WOULD NEED ANYBODY FOR TAMPA UNION STATION.
09:19:43 WE WILL GET BACK TO THAT.
09:19:55 ITEM NUMBER 45, THERE IS A STAFF REPORT ALSO ABOUT
09:19:56 CARLSON.
09:19:58 46, MOTION BY MR. VIERA.
09:20:00 WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF HERE?
09:20:01 >>LUIS VIERA: SURE.
09:20:06 WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE A LUNCH BREAK IN BETWEEN BUT YES.
09:20:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 47.
09:20:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
09:20:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR 46.
09:20:16 47, WE WILL COME BACK TO THAT.
09:20:17 MY MOTION.
09:20:22 THE EXISTING CHLORINE PLANT ITEM.
09:20:25 A REQUEST THAT IT BE CONTINUED TO JUNE 16 OR JUNE 23
09:20:28 WORKSHOP.
09:20:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
09:20:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
09:20:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES TO
09:20:34 CONTINUE ITEM 48 TO JUNE 16, 2022.
09:20:36 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:20:38 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:20:40 ANY OPPOSED?
09:20:43 COUNCILMAN VIERA, ITEM 49?
09:20:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.
09:20:46 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK WE WILL NEED IT.
09:20:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KEEP STAFF FOR 49.
09:20:50 ITEM NUMBER 50.
09:20:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:20:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:20:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KEEP STAFF HERE FOR THAT.
09:20:55 ITEM 51.
09:20:57 THIS IS COUNCILMAN CARLSON, REGARDING A DRAFT
09:21:01 RESOLUTION FOR HEALTHY BONES TAMPA BAY COALITION.
09:21:03 YOU WANT STAFF HERE?
09:21:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN -- I AM GLAD COUNCILMAN
09:21:06 CARLSON IS HERE.
09:21:12 THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION WITH REGARD TO THAT
09:21:13 -- THAT RESOLUTION.
09:21:16 ACTUALLY IN TALKING WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND HIS
09:21:22 LEGISLATIVE AIDE, THE MOTION REALLY SHOULD BE FOR THE
09:21:24 OSTEOPOROSIS AWARENESS MONTH IN THE MONTH OF MAY.
09:21:27 AND I COMPARED THAT CONSISTENTLY SO I CAN DISTRIBUTE
09:21:30 THAT TO COUNCIL.
09:21:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AFTER LUNCH TODAY.
09:21:33 WE WILL LEAVE 51.
09:21:34 MR. CARLSON.
09:21:34 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:21:37 WE DON'T NEED STAFF.
09:21:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 52 AND 53 ARE MY MOTIONS.
09:21:45 ONE IS A 15-MINUTE PRESENTATION.
09:21:50 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ITEM 54, THE UNION STATION COFFEE
09:21:52 SHOP AND INCUBATOR.
09:21:55 WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF THERE.
09:21:57 >>BILL CARLSON: IF NICOLE IS AVAILABLE.
09:22:00 AFTER TUESDAY NIGHT, SHE AND I SPOKE AND HAVE IDEAS TO
09:22:01 MOVE FORWARD.
09:22:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 45.
09:22:05 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAME THING.
09:22:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: STAFF ON BOTH OF THEN.
09:22:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STAFF FOR 44 AND 45.
09:22:14 ITEM 47 REGARDING THE VETERAN MEMORIAL AT TAMPA UNION
09:22:15 STATION.
09:22:16 WOULD YOU LIKE SOMEBODY THERE?
09:22:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:22:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES STAFF REPORTS.
09:22:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, 52 AND 53, YOU
09:22:25 BOTH WISH TO HAVE STAFF PRESENT.
09:22:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, DO HAVE STAFF.
09:22:30 15-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THE 53.
09:22:34 A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADEN DUMB.
09:22:39 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND BY -- COUNCILMEMBERS
09:22:40 -- YES, SIR.
09:22:41 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY.
09:22:44 CAN I SAY SOMETHING ABOUT DEBBY REAL FAST.
09:22:46 I AM SORRY I MISSED THAT.
09:22:50 DEBBY IS -- WAS -- HARD TO SAY PAST TENSE.
09:22:52 SHE IS, WAS ONE OF THE BEST PEOPLE I EVER MET.
09:22:55 ONE OF THE KINDEST PEOPLE.
09:22:59 EVEN BEFORE I STARTED ON CITY COUNCIL, YOLY TOLD ME TO
09:23:00 GET TO KNOW HER.
09:23:02 AND I THINK OTHERS MENTIONED THIS, SHE WAS SO
09:23:04 WELCOMING.
09:23:05 WALKED THROUGH EVERYTHING.
09:23:08 SHE HAD GREAT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE ON EVERYTHING.
09:23:12 AND CITY COUNCIL WERE TO GET BUSINESS CARDS.
09:23:15 WHERE MONEY WAS IN YOUR ACCOUNT, EVERYTHING AS
09:23:17 COUNCILMAN CITRO MENTIONED.
09:23:19 SHE WOULD ANTICIPATE WHEN YOU WERE COMING THROUGH THE
09:23:19 DOOR.
09:23:24 BUT SHE WAS ONE OF THE KINDEST, HAPPIEST PEOPLE I EVER
09:23:24 MET.
09:23:27 DURING THE WORSE TIMES SHE WOULD FACE PERSONALLY, SHE
09:23:28 WOULD SMILE.
09:23:33 AND ON COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED THIS, NO MATTER HOW BAD
09:23:37 HER PERSONAL SITUATION WAS, SHE WOULD UPLIFT EVERYBODY
09:23:38 ELSE.
09:23:41 AND SHERIFFS JUST ONE OF THOSE INSPIRING LIGHTS THAT
09:23:44 YOU -- THAT YOU NEED MORE OF IN THE WORLD AND NOT LESS.
09:23:49 AND I HONE THAT WE ALL TRY TO LIVE TO HER EXPECTATIONS
09:23:51 OF US TO BE POSITIVE, HAPPY AND GIVING.
09:23:52 THANK YOU.
09:23:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:23:56 OKAY.
09:23:59 COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAVE THE FIRST ITEM.
09:24:00 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:24:03 WE HAVE HERE THE USF STUDENT GOVERNMENT FOLKS WHO ARE
09:24:04 HERE.
09:24:11 IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP.
09:24:14 MR. CHAIR, WOULD IT BE OKAY FOR EACH PERSON TO BRIEFLY
09:24:17 INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND THEIR MAJOR.
09:24:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:24:20 >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:24:21 IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
09:24:22 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:24:27 I AM ANDRE MONTERO, THE DIRECTOR OF STUDENT GOVERNMENT
09:24:29 AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
09:24:30 FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY.
09:24:34 WE WILL BE SPENDING A FEW HOURS OF OUR DAY HERE IN YOUR
09:24:38 OFFICES FOR SEVERAL REASONS, BUT I WILL LET SOME OF MY
09:24:41 PEERS INTRODUCE THEMSELVES BEFORE I CONTINUE.
09:24:44 >> MONICA SMITH, FEDERAL CHIEF OF STAFF.
09:24:47 DOUBLE MAJORING IN POLITICAL SCIENCE AND HISTORY WITH A
09:24:49 MINOR IN ENGLISH.
09:24:50 >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T KNOW WHY -- I GUESS WHAT YOU ARE
09:24:54 LOOKING TO DO WHEN YOU GET OUT OF COLLEGE IF YOU KNOW
09:24:54 -- IF YOU KNOW.
09:24:57 >> AS OF RIGHT NOW I AM IN THE PROCESS OF APPLYING FOR
09:25:02 A FULBRIGHT SCHOLARSHIP FOR LITHUANIA.
09:25:07 HOPEFULLY DO THAT, COME BACK, GET MY PH.D. AND POLICY
09:25:11 ANALYST IN EASTERN FOREIGN POLICY.
09:25:13 >>LUIS VIERA: WOW.
09:25:16 VERY NARROWLY FAVORED.
09:25:20 >> I AM THE ST. PETERSBURG DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF AS
09:25:20 WELL.
09:25:25 I AM A POLITICAL SCIENCE MAJOR AND WHEN I GRADUATE, AND MY
09:25:28 WISH IS TO DO IMMIGRATION LAW.
09:25:30 >>LUIS VIERA: GOOD, THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:25:31 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:25:33 KATHERINE MATHENY.
09:25:36 I AM THE TAMPA FEDERAL RANKING JUSTICE OF OUR SUPREME
09:25:37 COURT.
09:25:41 I AM A POLITICAL SCIENCE ECONOMICS MAJOR WITH A MINOR
09:25:45 IN LEGAL STUDIES AND PHILOSOPHY.
09:25:48 FOR POST GRAD HOPING TO ATTEND LAW SCHOOL AND BECOME A
09:25:52 CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY.
09:25:53 >> HELLO, EVERYONE.
09:25:55 VICTORIA WILLIAMS.
09:25:57 I AM THE FEDERAL CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR STUDENT
09:25:59 GOVERNMENT.
09:26:03 AND MY MAJOR IS POLITICAL SCIENCE AND HISTORY AND I
09:26:06 HOPE IT GO TO LAW SCHOOL AND PURSUE CORPORATE LAW.
09:26:08 >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT.
09:26:09 >> HI, GOOD MORNING.
09:26:14 ALICIA WONCO, AND I AM A HEALTH SCIENCES MAJOR WITH A
09:26:16 MINOR IN POLITICAL SCIENCE.
09:26:19 I AM PLANNING TO PURSUE A MASTERS IN PUBLIC HEALTH AND
09:26:23 BECOME A PEDIATRICIAN.
09:26:26 >> SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANTED TO COME HERE
09:26:29 TODAY WAS TO PRESENT ALL OF YOU AND EVERYONE THAT IS
09:26:32 PRESENT WITH A VERY SPECIAL PIECE OF STUDENT GOVERNMENT
09:26:36 LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED THIS SEMESTER THAT I WORKED
09:26:39 ON VERY HARD PERSONALLY AND SOME OF MY PEERS WHO ARE
09:26:43 JOINING US, THE ONE USF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BILL.
09:26:46 ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS A SIGN OF THE STUDENTS BODY
09:26:49 PLEDGING TO HAVE A BIGGER, POSITIVE IMPACT IN THE
09:26:53 SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING OUR UNIVERSITY,
09:26:57 THAT BEING TAMPA, ST. PETERSBURG AND SARASOTA-MANATEE.
09:27:01 SO THIS BILL ESSENTIALLY BINDS STUDENT GOVERNMENT FOR
09:27:04 PARTICIPATING IN THREE OR MORE YEARLY COMMUNITY
09:27:05 ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES.
09:27:08 WHAT I MEAN BY "COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT."
09:27:12 IT MEANS LOCAL GOVERNMENT ELECTIONS, CHARITY EVENTS OR
09:27:15 LOCAL FUND RAISINGS THAT ARE CLASSIC AND HISTORIC TO
09:27:17 OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
09:27:21 YOU KNOW, THE MAIN REASON BEHIND THIS IS, AS I COME
09:27:25 INTO STUDENT GOVERNMENT, I REALIZE I WILL PLACE A LOT
09:27:27 OF EMPHASIS IN MAKING AN IMPACT ON THE STATE LEVEL
09:27:30 WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US AS WELL, BUT I REALIZED
09:27:34 THAT WE ARE NOT -- WE WEREN'T DOING AS BIG OF AN EFFORT
09:27:36 TO MAKE A BIGGER IMPACT ON THE LOCAL LEVEL.
09:27:40 SO I DECIDED TO GET TOGETHER WITH SOME OF OUR SENATORS
09:27:43 IN OUR STUDENT GOVERNMENT SENATE TO WORK ON THIS PIECE
09:27:44 OF LEGISLATION.
09:27:46 I HAVE IT AND WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS TO EVERYBODY
09:27:46 HERE.
09:27:49 I DON'T KNOW WHO.
09:27:51 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF YOU WANT TO GET IT.
09:27:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
09:27:53 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL DO IT.
09:28:26 YEAH, HOW ABOUT -- YOU WANT TO BRING HIM UP THERE.
09:28:30 >> FILL IN SOME GAPS HERE.
09:28:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE HE IS.
09:29:01 >> ONE, TWO, THREE.
09:29:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:29:09 HOW MANY OF US UP HERE ARE BULLS?
09:29:17 VIERA, CITRO -- WE HAVE GOT THREE.
09:29:20 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:29:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ON THE DAIS
09:29:24 RECOGNIZED MISS SMITH.
09:29:27 SHE IS MY OFFICE'S INTERN.
09:29:30 AND SHE HAS DONE SOME EXCELLENT WORK FOR OUR OFFICE.
09:29:33 AND WE ARE GOING TO SEE BRIGHT THINGS COMING FROM HER.
09:29:35 THOUGHTS, MISS SMITH.
09:29:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
09:29:38 >>BILL CARLSON: TO ALL OF YOU STUDENTS, THANK YOU FOR
09:29:41 YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY.
09:29:44 IT USE TODAY BE, LIKE, 30 YEARS AGO THE PEOPLE THAT RAN
09:29:46 TAMPA, A LOT OF THEM WAS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
09:29:46 FLORIDA.
09:29:50 AND WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, USF AND UT HAVE
09:29:52 REALLY RISEN UP.
09:29:59 AND THE NEW USF PRESIDENT WAS CHOSEN IN PART BY A
09:30:03 FORMER USF STUDENT BODY PRESENT AND YOU SEE USF
09:30:05 LEADERSHIP THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
09:30:08 TO YOU AND ALL YOUR COLLEAGUES WHO AREN'T HERE, IF WE
09:30:11 CAN DO ANYTHING TO HELP YOU IN YOUR CAREERS AND MAKE
09:30:14 SURE YOU COME BACK AND GET CONNECTED IN LEADERSHIP IN
09:30:14 OUR COMMUNITY.
09:30:17 YOU DON'T NEED 20 OR 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE TO GET
09:30:17 INVOLVED.
09:30:19 YOU CAN GET INVOLVED NOW.
09:30:21 PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW YOU CAN HELP.
09:30:22 THANK YOU.
09:30:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
09:30:28 ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:30:34 I WAS JUST INFORMED THAT ITEM 42 NEEDS TO BE WITHDRAWN.
09:30:36 LET ME PULL IT UP.
09:30:41 ITEM 42 WAS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1:30.
09:30:46 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW 42.
09:30:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION.
09:30:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:30:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:30:53 OPPOSED?
09:30:54 COUNCILMAN VIERA, ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:30:55 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:31:00 FOR THE USF STUDENTS AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA, IF I
09:31:02 MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO GRAB THEM AND TAKE THEM ON A TOUR
09:31:04 OF THE MAGNIFICENT OFFICES.
09:31:07 IF Y'ALL WANT TO COME UP HERE, CONNIE, EVERYBODY.
09:31:09 SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:31:13 WE ARE GOING TO BE VOTING ON PUTTING FORWARD WHAT IS A
09:31:16 SERIES OF STEPS TO FURTHER GET THE CITY OF TAMPA BETTER
09:31:19 INVOLVED IN ISSUES INVOLVING RETURNING CITIZENS.
09:31:24 AND WANT TO DO A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION, NOT TO EXCEED
09:31:27 EIGHT, NINE OR TEN MINUTES WITH GREAT COMMUNITY
09:31:28 STAKEHOLDERS.
09:31:31 THE INTENT OF THIS, SIR, AND ALL OF CITY COUNCIL, IS TO
09:31:34 HAVE THE CITY OF TAMPA BETTER PROMOTE THROUGH THE
09:31:38 CONTRACTING PROCESS, OUR OWN INTERNAL PROCESSES AND
09:31:39 ETC.
09:31:42 THE PLIGHT OF EMPLOYMENTS OF RETURNING TENSE IS IT,
09:31:45 PEOPLE LEAVING INCARCERATION, LEAVING PRISON AND ALL
09:31:47 THEY WANT TO DO IS WORK HARD AND PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE
09:31:48 FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
09:31:50 WE HAVE SOME REALLY GREAT PEOPLE HERE.
09:31:52 AND WE ARE GOING TO START WITH OUR GOOD FRIENDS FROM
09:31:55 THE FLORIDA RIGHTS RESTORATION COALITION.
09:31:58 WE WORK WITH A NUMBER OF REALLY PROMINENT ORGANIZATIONS
09:32:00 IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND IN OUR CITY AND COMMUNITY
09:32:03 ON PUTTING FORTH A NUMBER OF PROPOSALS TO MOVE THIS
09:32:04 ISSUE FORWARD.
09:32:08 IS NEIL VOLTS AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY?
09:32:09 BRANDON?
09:32:10 OKAY, GREAT.
09:32:11 WE WILL BEGIN.
09:32:15 MISS BURTON, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN, YOU MAY.
09:32:15 >> THANK YOU.
09:32:19 GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON, FLORIDA RIGHTS RESTORATION
09:32:21 COALITION.
09:32:23 THIS IS THE RIGHT ORDINANCE AT THE RIGHT TIME.
09:32:28 WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO RESTORE PEOPLE'S
09:32:33 LIVES, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WAYS IN WHICH SECOND CHANCES
09:32:34 BECOME VITAL.
09:32:38 THAT WHEN PEOPLE HAVE PAID -- TRULY PAID THEIR DEBT TO
09:32:42 SOCIETY IN WHICH THE COURTS HAVE IDENTIFIED THINGS THAT
09:32:46 -- EXCUSE ME -- THAT INDIVIDUALS MUST DO, THEN I THINK
09:32:49 IT IS MORE THAN APPROPRIATE FOR CITY GOVERNMENT TO
09:32:53 EXTEND ITS HANDS TO SAY, THEN, HOW DO PEOPLE THEN COME
09:32:56 BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITIES AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A
09:32:58 SENSE OF DIGNITY.
09:33:01 NOT ONLY HAVE WE WORKED VERY AGGRESSIVELY AROUND THE
09:33:06 VOTING RIGHTS, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THE SUBSTANTIALS IN
09:33:09 HUMAN DIGNITY AS WELL AS HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT IS
09:33:09 NEEDED.
09:33:13 SO THIS CITY CAN BE A FIRST STEP.
09:33:16 WE HAVE A LOT OF MAJOR PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING ON
09:33:17 BOARD.
09:33:20 WE WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE ANY OF THESE PROJECTS OR THIS
09:33:24 ORDINANCE USED AS JUST A MERE SMOKE AND MIRROR.
09:33:30 BUT HAVING REAL TANGIBLES IN PLACE, MEASUREMENTS THAT
09:33:34 WE CAN SAY BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMING INSIDE OF THE
09:33:37 CITY OF TAMPA WOULD BE ALIGNED WITH THIS AUDIENCE THAT
09:33:39 WILL GIVE PEOPLE REAL OPPORTUNITY.
09:33:42 SO IT WOULDN'T BE A WINDOW-DRESSING.
09:33:48 THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MONITOR PARTICIPATION, MONITOR
09:33:52 DEVELOPMENT, AND ALSO, ESSENTIALLY, AT THE END OF THE
09:33:55 DAY, SEEING PEOPLE BECOMING PRODUCTIVE TAXPAYERS.
09:33:58 WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THIS ORDINANCE AND YOUR
09:33:59 LEADERSHIP AROUND IT.
09:33:59 THANK YOU.
09:34:00 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
09:34:02 WE APPRECIATE YOU.
09:34:06 IF MR. VOLTS IS AVAILABLE.
09:34:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE IS ONLINE.
09:34:13 >>LUIS VIERA: HONOR TO HAVE FROM THE FLORIDA RIGHTS
09:34:14 COALITION.
09:34:17 ARE YOU IN FORT MYERS OR TALLAHASSEE?
09:34:20 >> I AM ACTUALLY IN WASHINGTON D.C. HONORED TO BE THERE
09:34:23 VIA TECHNOLOGY AND WHAT AN EXCITING MOMENT.
09:34:25 >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:34:25 >> OKAY.
09:34:25 THANK YOU.
09:34:29 I JUST WANT TO SAY I THINK THIS IS A REAL WIN-WIN
09:34:32 OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
09:34:36 I APPRECIATE THE PROCESS IN WHICH IT IS BEING SET UP
09:34:42 AND THE COLLABORATION IN WHICH -- LUIS, I JUST WANT TO
09:34:46 SAY YOU -- COUNCILMAN, FOR REACHING OUT TO THOSE WHO
09:34:49 ARE MOST IMPACTED BY THESE POLICIES, OUR LOCAL BUSINESS
09:34:53 COMMUNITY, THE FAITH COMMUNITY, THE RETURNING CITIZEN
09:34:55 COMMUNITY, THOSE IMPACTED BY THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
09:34:58 SYSTEM AND BEGIN A PROCESS WHAT WE BELIEVE IS GOOD FOR
09:34:59 EVERYBODY.
09:35:02 IF SOMEBODY CAN GET WORK WHO HAS BEEN IMPACTED BY THE
09:35:05 CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM, NOT ONLY DO THEY BENEFIT, THE
09:35:09 FAMILY BENEFITS, AND OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES BENEFIT AND
09:35:12 OUR FAITH COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND INCREASE AND IMPROVE
09:35:15 PUBLIC SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITY SO EVERYONE BENEFITS.
09:35:19 I THINK THAT IS AN EXAMPLE AND CAN BE, YOU KNOW, A
09:35:21 FOUNDATION THAT CAN GROW AND ULTIMATELY LIVES CAN BE
09:35:25 CHANGED IN OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE IMPROVED DRAMATICALLY
09:35:27 BECAUSE OF THESE EFFORTS.
09:35:29 WANTS TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT CAME TOGETHER TO BEGIN TO
09:35:32 MOVE THIS PROCESS AND LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING THIS THE
09:35:35 BEST THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN KNOWING THAT PEOPLE'S LIVES
09:35:37 IN THE BACK END OF IT.
09:35:39 AND SAY THANK YOU TO THE RETURNING CITIZEN COMMUNITY
09:35:42 FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND EFFORTS.
09:35:45 SECOND CHANCE EMPLOYMENT IS VITAL TO ALL OF US.
09:35:47 THANK YOU.
09:35:49 >>LUIS VIERA: NEIL, THANK YOU.
09:35:51 TO HAVE THE CITY OF TAMPA PARTNER UP WITH THE FUTURE
09:35:57 WITH GOOD FRIENDS AT FLORIDA RIGHTS COALITION INCLUDING
09:35:58 MISS BURTON.
09:36:03 NICHOLAS GLOVER WITH THE TAMPA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND
09:36:08 JOE PREVASCO WITH THE JCC FEDERATION.
09:36:09 GENTLEMEN.
09:36:11 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
09:36:13 COUNCILWOMAN, SO GOOD TO SEE YOU.
09:36:15 GOOD TO SAY THAT.
09:36:18 COUNCILMAN GUDES, SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.
09:36:22 NICHOLAS GLOVER, AS COUNCILMAN VIERA SHARED ON BEHALF OF
09:36:24 TAMPA CHAMBER.
09:36:27 VERY BRIEF AND LET JOE GIVE MORE DETAILED COMMENTS, BUT
09:36:31 THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITIES TO ALLOW BUSINESSES TO DO WELL
09:36:33 AND DO GOOD.
09:36:35 I WILL TAKE THE EMOTION OUT OF IT.
09:36:38 WHEN WE THINK OF OUR PRIORITIES ON THE LOCAL LEVEL,
09:36:40 THEY GO THROUGH SEVEN GUIDING PRINCIPLES, BUT IN
09:36:43 ORDINANCE INTERSECTS THREE IF NOT MORE OF THEM
09:36:47 INCLUDING BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WORKFORCE
09:36:50 DEVELOPMENT AND EDUCATION, AND DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND
09:36:50 INCLUSION.
09:36:52 VERY IMPORTANT INTERSECTION.
09:36:55 I CANNOT OVERSTATE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR US TO THINK
09:36:59 ABOUT THE BEST PUBLIC POLICY INITIATIVES THAT WE CAN
09:37:02 PRESCRIBE TO EVERYONE IS A GOOD PAYING JOB WITH SOME
09:37:03 DIGNITY.
09:37:05 THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
09:37:07 GETTING PEOPLE BACK IN THE WORKFORCE AS CONNIE
09:37:09 MENTIONED.
09:37:11 BACK WITH US PAYING TAXES.
09:37:14 THAT IS THE BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTION FOR YOU AS THE
09:37:16 CHAMBER SEES IT.
09:37:19 WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU COUNCILMAN VIERA ON
09:37:22 THIS INITIATIVE AND ADVOCATE TO OUR MEMBERS AND BROADER
09:37:25 BUSINESS COMMUNITY HOW IMPORTANT THIS INITIATIVE IS FOR
09:37:26 US ALL.
09:37:28 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
09:37:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:37:30 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:37:35 JOE PREVASCO, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
09:37:37 ADDRESS THE COUNCIL THIS MORNING.
09:37:39 IF YOU ASK ANY BUSINESS LEADER IN THE COMMUNITY, WE ARE
09:37:41 FACING THREE THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO THE LABOR POOL:
09:37:45 RECRUITMENT, RETENTION, AND UPSCALING.
09:37:49 IF YOU READ THE NEWS, YOU ARE HEARING LABOR SHORTAGE.
09:37:50 LABOR SHORTAGE.
09:37:51 I CAN'T FIND TALENT.
09:37:53 I CAN'T FIND TALENT.
09:37:56 I THINK WHAT WE ARE DOING IS OVERLOOKING A TREMENDOUS
09:38:00 LABOR POOL AVAILABLE FOR US IF WE POLISH THE LENS A
09:38:01 LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
09:38:04 MY ROLE HERE AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS OWNER IN TAMPA IS TO
09:38:08 REALLY EDUCATE MY COUNTERPARTS AND USE THIS AS AN
09:38:10 OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEM LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT
09:38:12 DIFFERENTLY AND TAKE A STEP BACK.
09:38:14 WE ARE BLESSED IN TAMPA TO HAVE ONE OF THE MOST
09:38:17 INNOVATIVE BUSINESS COMMUNITIES THAT YOU WILL SEE IN
09:38:20 THIS COUNTRY AND SOMETIMES WE NEED TO TAKE STEP BACK
09:38:24 AND SAY IS THIS SYSTEM WE HAVE IN PLACE MAKING SENSE.
09:38:27 I THINK IF WE DO THAT OBJECTIVELY, THE ANSWER IS NO.
09:38:31 WE TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THIS RESOLUTION AND
09:38:34 ORDINANCE DOES TO LEAD FROM THE CITY SIDE ALLOW US FROM
09:38:37 THE PRIVATE MARKETS TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH OUR
09:38:40 COUNTERPARTS AND SAY, LISTEN, LET'S LOOK AT THIS LABOR
09:38:41 POOL.
09:38:44 LET'S LOOK AT THIS DIFFERENTLY THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST
09:38:48 AND SEE IF WE CAN HELP REDUCE LABOR ISSUES AND GET
09:38:50 FOLKS SOME GOOD PAYING JOBS.
09:38:53 I THINK WHAT THE DATA WILL SHOW AND WHAT THE DATA
09:38:56 SUPPORTS, ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE LOYAL EMPLOYEES
09:38:58 THAT PERFORM AT PAR OR ABOVE.
09:39:01 THEY ARE COUNTERPARTS AND JUST A WAY TO REVISITS THIS
09:39:03 AND LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
09:39:05 I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS EVERYBODY THIS
09:39:05 MORNING.
09:39:09 AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL CONSIDERING THIS
09:39:10 ORDINANCE.
09:39:11 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, JOE.
09:39:13 NEXT, A GENTLEMAN WHO I THINK ADDRESSED US TWO WEEKS
09:39:14 AGO.
09:39:18 MY GOOD FRIEND, MR. ROBERT BROWN, PRESIDENT OF
09:39:22 ABE BROWN MINISTRIES AND READ A STATEMENT FROM FREDDY
09:39:24 BARTON FROM SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH.
09:39:26 GO AHEAD.
09:39:32 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:39:35 THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE OF MEN AND WOMEN RETURNING FROM
09:39:40 INCARCERATION IS 20% HIGHER THAN JUST OUR AVERAGE
09:39:40 CITIZEN.
09:39:45 AND OUR FOUNDER REVEREND ABE BROWN WAS A MAN FULL OF
09:39:48 BIG IDEAS COME TO BELIEVED YOU SHOULD LIVE AND LEAD BY
09:39:51 EXAMPLE, AND SIGN THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY OF LEADERSHIP.
09:39:53 WHEN OTHER EMPLOYERS SEE THE CITY OF TAMPA LEADING IN
09:39:56 THIS ARENA, THEY WILL FOLLOW.
09:40:01 AND I AM ALSO PLEASED TO SAY THAT ABE BROWN MINISTRIES,
09:40:03 TOO, PRACTICE WHAT WE PREACH.
09:40:08 WE HAVE TWO EMPLOYEES WHO ARE FORMERLY INCARCERATED.
09:40:11 INDIVIDUALS -- ONE OF WHOM SERVED TEN YEARS IN PRISON.
09:40:12 WAS DIVORCED.
09:40:15 HIS WIFE DIVORCED HIM WHILE HE WAS INCARCERATED.
09:40:20 BUT WHEN HE GOT OUT, HE NOT ONLY REMARRIED HIS WIFE AND
09:40:23 PURSUED THAT RELATIONSHIP, BUT, AGAIN, TO THE USF
09:40:27 STUDENTS, HE IS A GRADUATE OF THE SCHOOL OF SOCIAL WORK
09:40:28 AT USF.
09:40:31 HE IS DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB AND EMPLOYED WITH US FOR
09:40:31 TWO YEARS.
09:40:38 AND THAT IS REALLY THE STORY THAT WE HOPE THAT THROUGH
09:40:42 THIS TYPE OF LEADERSHIP WE CAN CONTINUE TO DEMONSTRATE
09:40:43 HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:40:48 SO I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE
09:40:53 AND TO LEAD IN THIS VERY CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT MATTER.
09:40:56 THANK YOU.
09:40:57 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, ROBERT.
09:41:00 I WILL READ A STATEMENT FROM FREDDY BARTON.
09:41:03 WE WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:41:07 TO GIVE US A BIGGER FOOTPRINT ON THE ISSUE OF RETURNING
09:41:12 CITIZENS BY ENCOURAGING CONTRACTORS TO HIRE CITIZENS
09:41:15 AND BY FORMALLY THE FIRST TIME EVER STARTING WITH CITY
09:41:19 DOLLARS, PARTNERSHIP FOR THE COUNTY WITH APPRENTICESHIP
09:41:23 AND TRAINING SOLELY DESIGNATED FOR RETURNING CITIZENS
09:41:28 AND WE HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM GWEN MYERS, COUNTY
09:41:30 COMMISSIONER TO SEEK THAT MONEY AND HAVE THE CITY
09:41:34 REPORT ON THE NUMBER OF RETURNING CITIZENS WE HIRE TO
09:41:36 CONTINUE TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE TO MAKE THAT THE FIRST STEP
09:41:40 AND PARTNERING UP WITH FRIENDS IN THE PRIVATES SECTOR,
09:41:43 CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND ENCOURAGING THE HIRING OF
09:41:43 RETURNING CITIZENS.
09:41:47 FROM MR. BARTON READS AS FOLLOWS: GOOD MORNING TO THE
09:41:50 CHAIR AND MEMBERS CITY COUNCIL AND EVERYBODY PRESENT.
09:41:53 IT IS MY PLEASURE TO SPEAK ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.
09:41:55 UNFORTUNATELY, I AM NOT ABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON, BUT
09:41:57 IMPORTANT TO LET YOU KNOW WHY.
09:42:00 AT THIS TIME I AM CURRENTLY IN TODAY'S JUVENILE
09:42:03 DETENTION HEARINGS WHERE PREARRAIGNMENT STATUS FOR
09:42:04 YOUTHS ARRESTED YESTERDAY.
09:42:06 UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS A DAILY EVENT.
09:42:09 THE YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE IN NEED OF SEVERAL
09:42:13 SERVICES, BUT A POSITIVE PATHWAY OUT OF DELINQUENCY IS
09:42:14 ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES.
09:42:18 WE KNOW THAT EDUCATION AND GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT TWO OF
09:42:20 THE GREAT EQUALIZERS IN LIFE.
09:42:23 SURVEY DONE RECENTLY WITH 50 YOUTH ARRESTED HERE IN
09:42:27 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHOW THAT 65% OF YOUTH ARREST HUMID
09:42:30 ONE OR MORE PARENTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY INCARCERATED
09:42:34 OR ARRESTED HALF OF THOSE PARENTS HAD NOT BEEN EMPLOYED
09:42:36 FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.
09:42:39 WITH NO LEGAL MEANS TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES, WE
09:42:44 SEE THE PROPENSITY OF FURTHER CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR AND-OR
09:42:45 VIOLENCE.
09:42:49 WE AT SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH WORK TO PREVENT
09:42:52 VIOLENCE FOR YOUTH AND THEIR FAMILIES, WE KNOW THERE
09:42:55 MUST BE POLICIES IN PLACE OF SECURING GAINFUL
09:42:57 EMPLOYMENT ALLOWING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
09:43:00 FAMILY-SUSTAINING EMPLOYMENT INCREASING QUALITY OF LIFE
09:43:04 FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES AND SHOWING OUR YOUTH
09:43:07 THAT THOUGH YOU MAY HAVE MADE A MISTAKE IN THE PAST,
09:43:09 YOU ARE NOT YOUR MISTAKE.
09:43:10 NOT YOUR MISTAKE IN CAPS.
09:43:12 PARENTHESES.
09:43:15 WE FULLY COMMIT THIS ENDEAVOR AND PARTNER WITH THE CITY
09:43:19 AND COMMUNITY FOR TRAINING ASSISTANCE, WRAP-AROUND
09:43:22 SUPPORT AND MENTORSHIP AS PART OF THIS INITIATIVE.
09:43:25 FREDDY BARTON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SAFE AND SOUND
09:43:26 HILLSBOROUGH.
09:43:29 AGAIN, I WANTED TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THIS ISSUE
09:43:32 BEFORE WE DEAL WITH THIS TOWARD THE END OF COUNCIL.
09:43:34 AND IF MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
09:43:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:43:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BACK IN 2019, I MADE A MOTION IN
09:43:42 REFERENCE TO THIS SAME TYPE OF PROGRAM.
09:43:46 AND ASKED FOR HR TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE CRITERIA.
09:43:49 I THINK THEY CAME BACK AND LOOKED AT SOME THINGS.
09:43:52 I AM GLAD WE HAVE A BIGGER GROUP TO GET THINGS MOVING.
09:43:54 I DID LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE AND I TALKED TO MR. BENNETT
09:43:56 ABOUT THAT.
09:43:58 I HAVE SOME CONCERNS BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
09:44:02 ORDINANCE -- LOOK WHAT THE ORDINANCE PRESENTS, A LOT OF
09:44:05 TIMES, WE WANT TO DO GOOD, BUT THERE ARE OTHER
09:44:05 BARRIERS.
09:44:10 AND WE LOOK AT THE BARRIERS, IT'S THE INSURANCE
09:44:12 CARRIERS THAT HAVE A BARRIER TO WHERE THEY WILL NOT
09:44:15 ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE HIRED.
09:44:18 SO I TALKED TO MR. BENNETT AND HOPEFULLY, HE WILL TALK
09:44:21 HOW TO GET A PILOT PROGRAM FOR THE BOND SITUATION
09:44:24 BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR BEST INTENTIONS.
09:44:27 BUT I CAN TELL YOU, THERE IS A ROADBLOCK THERE THAT IS
09:44:29 STOPPING THE PROCESS.
09:44:31 MAYBE THE CITY AND THE COUNTY CAN COME UP WITH SOME
09:44:34 KIND OF PILOT PROGRAM WITH THE PROGRAM TO FOSTER AND
09:44:38 MOVE THE RE-ENTRY OF SECOND CHANCE SO PEOPLE CAN BE
09:44:39 EMPLOYED.
09:44:41 HOPEFULLY HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.
09:44:44 AND MR. BENNETT AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET
09:44:45 TO ITEM 50 TODAY.
09:44:50 THERE IS A ROADBLOCK AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO -- WE
09:44:53 WOULD LIKE TO DO THINGS AT A LOCAL AND NEED MISS HART
09:44:55 AND OTHERS TO GET ON BOARD TO KNOCK THE WHOLE BLOCK
09:44:56 DOWN.
09:44:56 THANK YOU.
09:44:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:45:01 YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN FORGIVENESS AND SECOND CHANCES.
09:45:03 I MENTIONED IT A FEW TIMES UP HERE.
09:45:06 WHAT IS THE POINT OF SOMEBODY GIVING A PRISON SENTENCE
09:45:08 FOR WHATEVER LONG IT MAY BE.
09:45:09 THEY GET OUT OF PRISON.
09:45:11 AND THEY ARE CONTINUOUSLY PUNISHED.
09:45:16 LIKE A PERPETUAL SLAVERY, THEY CAN'T GET A HAND UP --
09:45:19 NOT A HAND OUT, BUT A HAND UP TO REJOIN SOCIETY AND BE
09:45:21 PRODUCTIVE.
09:45:24 INSTEAD THEY ARE KEPT IN THIS PERPETUITY OF THE
09:45:26 CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
09:45:27 AND YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.
09:45:30 YOU KNOW THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATES, THE ISSUES, THE ROAD
09:45:32 BLOCKS, ALL THIS STUFF.
09:45:36 GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO -- TO GET THEIR RIGHTS
09:45:39 RESTORED, TO VOTE, TO WORK.
09:45:42 I MEAN I KNOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE I HAVE MET IN MY LIFE
09:45:46 THAT STUPID PINGS WHEN THEY WERE YOUNG.
09:45:50 ONE GENTLEMAN WAS IN PRISON FOR 12 YEARS ROBBING A
09:45:51 7-ELEVEN AT GUNPOINT.
09:45:56 IF I YOU DIDN'T KNOW OR TELL STORY YOU WOULD THINK A
09:45:56 NICE GUY.
09:45:59 HE TOLD ME THE STORY THAT WHEN HE GOT OUT OF PRISON, HE
09:46:01 WENT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HERE TO APPLY FOR A JOB.
09:46:03 HE SAID I WILL DO EVERYTHING,
09:46:05 MOP THE FLOORS AND WHATEVER IT IS AND THEY LAUGHED AT
09:46:07 HIM THINKING ARE YOU CRAZY.
09:46:09 YOU JUST GOT OUT OF PRISON 12 YEARS.
09:46:12 HE STARTED HIS OWN CLEANING BUSINESS.
09:46:14 HE HAS HIS OWN FAMILY.
09:46:15 HE HAS A HOUSE.
09:46:18 PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY AND REGISTERED TO VOTE
09:46:20 OVER MANY, MANY YEARS.
09:46:23 IT LIVES THAT WE LIVE IN SUCH A JUDGMENTAL SOCIETY THAT
09:46:24 WE PUNISH PEOPLE.
09:46:27 GIVE THEM A SENTENCE OF WHATEVER IT IS AND WE
09:46:30 CONTINUOUSLY PUNISH THEM WITHOUT LETTING THEM JUST BE
09:46:31 PRODUCTIVE.
09:46:35 LIVE THEIR LIFE LIKE ANY HUMAN BEING.
09:46:37 I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP.
09:46:40 I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN GUDES BRINGING UP THIS EARLIER.
09:46:41 I AM IN TOTAL SUPPORT.
09:46:50 I WANT TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO SUPPORT THOSE
09:46:52 INDIVIDUALS WHO MADE MISTAKES.
09:46:53 WE ALL MADE MY STAKES.
09:46:57 THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BE FREE AND BE PRODUCTIVE AND VOTE
09:47:03 AND TAKE PART IN OUR ELECTION SYSTEM.
09:47:05 SO MANY THINGS TO SAY, BUT SECOND CHANCES AND
09:47:07 FORGIVENESS.
09:47:11 PRACTICE WHAT WE PREACH AND THANK YOU, SIR, AND ALL THE
09:47:13 SPEAKERS TODAY FOR COMING.
09:47:14 ANYBODY ELSE ON THE DAIS?
09:47:16 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:47:19 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY TO COUNCILMAN GUDES' POINT.
09:47:24 I ALWAYS JOKE THE TEN SUGGESTIONS, NOT THE TEN
09:47:25 COMMANDMENTS.
09:47:31 100% FOR IMPROVEMENT.
09:47:33 AND MY INTENT ON THIS IS TO GET THE CONVERSATION
09:47:37 STARTED BY GETTING OUR FEET IN THE WATER, SO TO SPEAK,
09:47:40 ON THIS ISSUE TO GAIN THE PEOPLE'S TRUST BY HAVING A
09:47:44 TEST PILOT, APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM WITH THE COUNTY TO
09:47:50 GIVE SKILLS TO PEOPLE AND THIS ISSUE -- PEOPLE WERE
09:47:52 RAISED IN THE SUBURBS, ETC.
09:47:54 AND YOU NEVER THINK ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
09:47:57 WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THIS.
09:47:59 SHOULD THINK AS AMERICANS.
09:48:02 CHRISTIAN, JEW, MUSLIM, WHATEVER, WE SHOULD THINK OF
09:48:07 THIS AS A COMPASSIONATE PERSON.
09:48:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, CAN I REQUEST A QUESTION.
09:48:13 CHIEF BENNETT.
09:48:16 >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING.
09:48:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE CITY HAS A POLICY OF BAN THE BOX.
09:48:24 CAN WE MANDATORY MAKE COMPANIES THAT DO CONTRACT WORK
09:48:29 WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, CAN WE MAKE EMPLOYERS THAT WORK
09:48:33 WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA -- WITH WE MAKE IT POSSIBLE THAT
09:48:38 IN THEIR APPLICATIONS THEY HAVE ALSO BAN THE BOX SO
09:48:42 THAT WORK THAT IS BEING DONE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA,
09:48:49 MUCH LIKE OUR -- OUR NONFOSSIL FUEL CONTAINERS DURING
09:48:50 EVENTS.
09:48:53 CAN WE DO THAT FOR THE COMPANIES THAT WORK WITH THE
09:48:53 CITY OF TAMPA?
09:48:57 >>JOHN BENNETT: SURE, JOHN BENNETT.
09:49:01 COUNCILMAN GUDES' POINT.
09:49:03 WE HAVE AN LEGAL ACTION.
09:49:07 I DON'T KNOW THE LEGALITY OF MAKING THEM DO IT, BUT I
09:49:10 DO KNOW QUITE OFTEN IN OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS THERE
09:49:12 ARE BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT COME THROUGH TO THE CITY.
09:49:16 I HAVE PERSONALLY SCRUTINIZED THOSE ALL THE WAY BACK --
09:49:21 I WAS TELLING COUNCILMAN GUDES' YESTERDAY EVEN BACK TO
09:49:24 THE 2009 SUPER BOWL WHEN THE FEDS WERE RUNNING
09:49:25 EVERYBODY BEFORE THE EVENT.
09:49:29 I HAD THE FINAL AUTHORITY TO APPROVE ALL THE WORK
09:49:32 FORCES AND A LOT OF THEM HAD RECORDS AND I PASSED THEM
09:49:34 RIGHT THROUGH, BECAUSE THE TYPE OF WORK THEY WERE DOING
09:49:38 AND BACKGROUNDS MET AN OPPORTUNITY.
09:49:41 SO THERE IS OPPORTUNITY AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AS
09:49:45 A CITY ARE THOSE COMPANIES THAT OPT IN TO BAN THE BOX
09:49:48 MAY BE ABLE TO GET EQUAL OPPORTUNITY POINTS IN THE
09:49:51 SYSTEM SO THAT WAY WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET
09:49:53 ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH THE CITY.
09:49:56 IF I COULD HAVE A POINT OF PRIVILEGE.
09:49:59 I WANT TO SHARE A STORY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
09:50:01 RIGHT AT THE END OF MY CAREER I GOT A CALL FROM THE
09:50:03 DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS SAYING THEY WERE RELEASING IN
09:50:06 THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH NO ADDRESS ONE OF THE WORST
09:50:09 OFFENDERS THEY HAD THAT SAT IN PRISON FOR 25 YEARS.
09:50:12 THEY SAID THEY WERE DROPPING HIM OFF AT THE BUS STOP ON
09:50:14 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE BECAUSE THIS PERSON HAD NO ADDRESS
09:50:17 AND THEY SAID HE WILL BE A DANGER TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:50:18 I GOT OUT OF MY OFFICE.
09:50:22 I SAID HAVE THEM MEET ME AT THE CORNER, THIS
09:50:22 GENTLEMAN.
09:50:24 HE SAT IN PRISON FOR 25 YEARS.
09:50:27 HE WAS BEING DROPPED OFF HERE.
09:50:30 I CALLED THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND THREE DAYS OF
09:50:33 PAYING FOR SHELTER, THEY GAVE HIM A JOB AT MY REQUEST.
09:50:36 THAT GUY WITHIN SEVERAL MONTHS HAD HIS OWN APARTMENT,
09:50:40 HIS OWN JOB AND STILL WORKING TODAY AFTER 25 YEARS.
09:50:41 SO THERE ARE TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITIES.
09:50:44 AND ONE PARTNER WITH PARTNERS WE CAN DO MORE.
09:50:47 ONE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON WITHIN
09:50:49 THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS THE DEPARTMENT OF
09:50:50 CORRECTIONS.
09:50:56 AND THE RISK AND NEEDS AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THESE
09:51:00 PROGRAMS, QUITE OFTEN THE PEOPLE I HIRED IN THE CITY
09:51:02 WHO HAVE BACKGROUNDS HAVE GONE THROUGH SPECIALIZED
09:51:05 TRAINING WHILE THEY WERE DOING THEIR COMMUNITY JUSTICE,
09:51:06 IF YOU WILL.
09:51:08 THEY COME OUT AND THEY ARE HIRABLE BY THE CITY.
09:51:10 WE HAVE PROGRESSION IN THE SPACE.
09:51:13 BUT WITH THESE PARTNERS WE CAN DO A LOT MORE.
09:51:16 THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, YES.
09:51:19 I THINK THE WAY WE ARE LOOKING AT IT IS APPLY
09:51:21 ADDITIONAL POINTS FOR COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE THAT
09:51:21 OPPORTUNITY.
09:51:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE LAST STATEMENT, MR. CHAIR.
09:51:25 THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT.
09:51:28 IF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS GOING TO LEAD THE WAY ON THIS,
09:51:30 EVERYBODY THAT IS INVOLVED WITH WORK IN THE CITY OF
09:51:32 TAMPA SHOULD FOLLOW.
09:51:33 SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:51:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF BENNETT, YOU KNOW, YOU
09:51:39 PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH.
09:51:41 MANY TIMES I SEE YOU -- I KNOW YOU GO TO CHURCH EVERY
09:51:42 MORNING.
09:51:44 MANY TIMES I HAVE BEEN IN THE BACK.
09:51:44 I SEE YOU.
09:51:47 YOU LIVE BY FAITH.
09:51:49 IN HOW YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE AND THE PEOPLE THAT YOU
09:51:50 HELPED.
09:51:54 YOU PROVEN IT JUST IN THAT STORY BUT ONE OF MANY
09:51:54 STORIES.
09:51:58 I KNOW YOUR CHARACTER AND I THINK WE ALL CAN LEARN FOR
09:52:03 THAT COMPASSION, SECOND CHANCES, FORGIVENESS, LIFT
09:52:06 PEOPLE UP, LET PEOPLE BE PRODUCTIVE.
09:52:08 HELP THEM BE PRODUCTIVE.
09:52:10 >>JOHN BENNETT: YOU ARE WELCOME AND THIS
09:52:12 ADMINISTRATION SUPPORTS STAFF FROM THE TOP DOWN.
09:52:12 THANK YOU.
09:52:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN ELSE?
09:52:17 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA AND ALL THE SPEAKERS.
09:52:19 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
09:52:23 WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC -- BEFORE -- RECORDING ROME YARD,
09:52:26 WHEN WE COME BACK FROM LUNCH, LET'S SAY 1:30 SO WE HAVE
09:52:33 A TIME CERTAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE ROME YARD
09:52:34 DISCUSSION FIRST.
09:52:39 WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING AND ROME YARD AT 1:30.
09:52:42 YOU CAN SPEAK NOW, BUT WE WILL BRING IT -- BECAUSE WE
09:52:44 HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE FOR IT.
09:52:45 YES, MR. SHELBY.
09:52:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE CHAIR FOR THE FLOOR TO OPEN ITEMS
09:52:52 THEN OR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ROME YARD.
09:52:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SPEAK UP TO ROME YARD AND LEAVE IT
09:52:59 UP TO THE STAFF AT 1:30.
09:53:00 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:53:02 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST ASK -- ASK CHIEF OF STAFF
09:53:06 AND LEGAL WHY ROME YARD WAS PUT ON CONSENT AGENDA.
09:53:10 WITH A 99-YEAR LEASE, THE TOTAL OF IT WOULD SURPASS THE
09:53:13 TOTAL AMOUNT THAT SHOULD BE ON CONSENT AGENDA.
09:53:16 I KNOW YOU ASKED TO MOVE IT TO STAFF REPORTS.
09:53:19 WHY WAS IT PUT ON CONSENTS?
09:53:25 >>JOHN BENNETT: I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, COUNCILMAN.
09:53:27 BETWEEN THAT AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE, THAT IS WHERE IT
09:53:28 LANDED.
09:53:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK COUNCIL.
09:53:33 BUT WE DISCUSSED THIS -- I DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE
09:53:34 CLERK'S OFFICE.
09:53:39 THE PROCESS IS WHEN IT GOES THROUGH SIRE AND THE CLERK
09:53:42 CAN CLARIFY CERTAINLY, IT IS NORMALLY PLACED ON THE
09:53:44 CONSENTS DOCKET.
09:53:46 IF THE DEPARTMENT REQUESTS IT IS PULLED.
09:53:49 OR A COUNCILMEMBER IT IS PULLED.
09:53:51 >>BILL CARLSON: A DOLLAR AMOUNT MINIMUM THAT IF YOU
09:53:56 LOOK AT THE 99 YEARS OF THE LEASE THAT SURPASSES THAT.
09:53:59 IN THE FIRST YEAR IT DOESN'T, BUT AFTER THAT IT DOES.
09:54:03 >>CLERK: IF IT IS OVER $3 MILLION, IT IS AUTOMATICALLY
09:54:05 PLACED ON THE STAFF REPORT.
09:54:08 IN THIS CASE REFERENCED OVER $3 MILLION.
09:54:11 THAT IS WHY STAFF ASKED TO BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
09:54:14 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO AND A HALF MILLION THE FIRST YEAR
09:54:16 BUT THEN 15% OF RENT OVER 99 YEARS.
09:54:20 THAT HAS GOT TO SURPASS -- DOESN'T SAY CLEARLY AN
09:54:24 ESTIMATED NUMBER BUT WAY, WAY, WAY OVER $2.5 MILLION,
09:54:25 WAY OVER $3 MILLION.
09:54:28 WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE ITEM.
09:54:28 THANK YOU.
09:54:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:32 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A CLARIFICATION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:54:38 FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE PLANNING TO BE AT THE 1:30
09:54:42 PUBLIC HEARING, ITEM 41.
09:54:47 IT IS YOUR INTENT -- COUNCIL'S INTENTS TO TAKE ITEMS 20
09:54:54 AND 21 BEFORE ITEM 41, THE 1:30?
09:54:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE THEM PULLED FOR DISCUSSION
09:55:00 TO GO UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:55:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
09:55:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 20 AND 21 IS WHAT I AM TALKING
09:55:03 ABOUT.
09:55:04 1:30.
09:55:07 FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:55:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION WHAT TIME ITEM 41 WILL
09:55:12 BE TAKEN UP --
09:55:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IMMEDIATELY AFTER.
09:55:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IMMEDIATELY AFTER.
09:55:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT ONE PUBLIC HEARING.
09:55:20 IMMEDIATELY AFTER.
09:55:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDERSTOOD, THANK YOU.
09:55:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROME DISCUSSION MAY BE 15 MINUTES,
09:55:28 30 MINUTES.
09:55:30 WE WILL GO TO ROME AFTER THAT.
09:55:31 IS THAT FINE?
09:55:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN THE PEOPLE -- I DON'T KNOW
09:55:35 WHETHER THE PEOPLE COMING IN FOR THE 1:30 PUBLIC
09:55:37 HEARING WHETHER THEY ARE HEARING THIS OR NOT, BUT THEY
09:55:40 WILL BE INFORMED IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
09:55:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:55:47 ALL RIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:55:50 IF YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM INCLUDING THE
09:55:51 ROME YARD.
09:55:54 PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTERN AND SAY YOUR NAME.
09:55:58 YES, SIR, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:56:01 >> BOB BITMORE, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CITY TREE.
09:56:04 I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING, COUNCILMAN GUDES,
09:56:06 I AM VERY SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.
09:56:09 AMAZING WHEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE THAT IN OUR LIVES.
09:56:13 IT JUST CHANGES THINGS AND IT IS GOOD THAT WE RECOGNIZE
09:56:14 THAT.
09:56:16 I SPENT A FEW YEARS FIGHTING FOR TREES IN THIS ROOM.
09:56:19 I HAD A FEW WINS AND A LOT OF LOSSES.
09:56:22 BUT ALWAYS PROUD OF THE PROCESS.
09:56:24 THE FACT THAT THE CITIZENS CAN FIGHT FOR TREES IN THE
09:56:26 CITY IS ADMIRABLE.
09:56:31 BUT I NEVER REALIZED WHEN WE LOST THAT THE DECK WAS SO
09:56:34 STACKED AND THE SYSTEM WAS CORRUPTED.
09:56:37 AND JOHN DINGFELDER WAS FORCED OFF AS COUNCIL.
09:56:41 REVEAL A HARD TRUTH THAT A WELL-FUNDED GROUP OF
09:56:43 POWERFUL MEN AND WOMEN HAVE GAINED CONTROL OVER ELECTED
09:56:46 OFFICIALS WITH THE PROMISE OF MONEY OR A THREAT OF
09:56:50 LEGAL REPRISAL IF THEY DON'T TOW THE LINE.
09:56:52 COMPOUNDED BY AN ADMINISTRATION HELL BENT ON
09:56:55 DEVELOPMENT AT ALL COSTS.
09:56:57 THEY HAVE AN AGENDA.
09:56:58 THEY HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THEIR GRIPS.
09:57:01 THEY HAVE THE MONEY AND LEGAL FIRE POWER TO PUT IT NOT
09:57:05 THE FEAR OF GOD, THE FEAR OF LITIGATION INTO ANY
09:57:07 REPRESENT I HAVE THAT MIGHT CROSS THEM.
09:57:10 JOHN DINGFELDER CROSSED THEM.
09:57:14 AND HE DEALT -- AND HE WAS DEALT WITH BRUTALLY.
09:57:16 EVERYONE HERE KNOWS IT.
09:57:20 AND ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN PAYING ATTENTION, KNOWS IT.
09:57:24 THE MAYOR DIDN'T ASK JOHN DINGFELDER TO RESIGN.
09:57:28 THIS COUNCIL DIDN'T ASK JOHN DINGFELDER TO RESIGN.
09:57:32 YOU, THE PEOPLE, YOU CERTAINLY DIDN'T ASK JOHN
09:57:33 DINGFELDER TO RESIGN.
09:57:37 AND JOHN DINGFELDER DID NOT WANT TO RESIGN.
09:57:40 JOHN DINGFELDER WAS FORCED OUT OF OFFICE BY A
09:57:43 DEVELOPER, UNABLE TO PAY TO FIGHT THEM.
09:57:46 HE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO RESIGN.
09:57:49 AND THAT SHOULD, REGARDLESS OF YOUR POLITICS, MAKE YOU
09:57:51 VERY, VERY MAD.
09:57:54 BECAUSE THE VERY IDEA THAT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN BE
09:57:57 FORCED TO RESIGN BY LAWYERS AND DEVELOPERS STRIKE AT
09:58:00 THE VERY HEART OF OUR DEMOCRACY.
09:58:01 WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THIS ANGER?
09:58:04 WELL, YOU COME DOWN HERE AND LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL
09:58:08 AND TAKE YOUR THREE MINUTES TO TALK AND GIVE ANYONE WHO
09:58:10 COUNTS AN EARFUL.
09:58:14 THESE COUNCILMEMBERS, THE MAYOR, HER STAFF, PROBABLY A
09:58:16 FEW COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
09:58:18 BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.
09:58:22 OR YOU CAN WAIT TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD AT THE BALLOT
09:58:22 BOX.
09:58:24 I SUSPECT SOMEONE WILL BE WILLING TO GIVE THIS
09:58:27 COMPLICITY ADMINISTRATION A RUN FOR THEIR MONEY
09:58:29 CONSIDERING RECENT EVENTS.
09:58:33 OR YOU COULD DONATE TO THE GO FUND ME STARTED OUT TO
09:58:35 HELP JOHN RECOVER SOME OF HIS LOSSES INCURRED IN
09:58:38 FIGHTING THE DEVELOPERS.
09:58:39 GO FUND ME.
09:58:45 TYPE IN DEFEND DINGFELDER IN THE SEARCH BOX AND GO FROM
09:58:45 THERE.
09:58:47 A GREAT WAY TO FEEL LIKE YOU DID SOMETHING AND BELIEVE
09:58:50 ME, A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING BUT
09:58:53 MONEY AND VOTERS SEE US HAND $65,000 TO JOHN
09:58:57 DINGFELDER, RAISED $10 AT A TIME, THAT WILL GET SOME
09:58:58 ATTENTION.
09:59:01 IT JUST MAY TAKE SOME OF YOUR ANGER AWAY.
09:59:04 YOU CAN MAKE YOUR DONATIONS ANONYMOUSLY.
09:59:05 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:59:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:59:08 NEXT SPEAKER.
09:59:10 YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
09:59:13 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, ERNST CONEY WITH THE CITY OF
09:59:14 TAMPA.
09:59:17 COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE ALWAYS IN MY PRAYERS.
09:59:20 I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
09:59:22 WE LOOK AT THAT PROJECT AND THINK ABOUT IT FROM, ONE,
09:59:24 FROM A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE.
09:59:27 THERE IS A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON THAT PROJECT
09:59:31 FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE INPUT ON SEVERING FROM
09:59:39 AMENITIES TO ALL TYPES OF EQUITABLE AND INCLUSION TO BE
09:59:41 INCLUDED IN THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT SMALL
09:59:44 BUSINESSES BOTH HISPANIC AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN ARE
09:59:45 INCLUDED ON THAT PROJECT.
09:59:49 ALSO THE FORESIGHT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE TALKED ABOUT
09:59:52 THE SKILLS GAP AND THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING WORKFORCE
09:59:53 INITIATIVES.
09:59:56 PART OF THIS IS ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A --
10:00:00 THERE IS A TRAINING SPACE THERE ON THE PROJECT AS WELL.
10:00:03 SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE
10:00:05 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND THE HIGH SCHOOLS THERE SO WE CAN
10:00:12 TRAIN YOUNG FOLKS ON THE TRADES AS WELL AS INTRODUCING
10:00:14 THEM TO PROFESSIONAL DEGREES.
10:00:18 ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, URBAN PLANNER.
10:00:22 WE CAN START AT AN EARLY AGE TO INTRODUCE THEM TO THESE
10:00:22 CONCEPTS.
10:00:24 A LOT OF RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR JOBS.
10:00:28 OFTENTIMES THEY WALK BY PROJECTS AND THEY SEE OTHER
10:00:30 PEOPLE WORKING AND THEY ARE NOT WORKING.
10:00:33 WE WANT TO TRAIN RESIDENTS TO WORK ON THOSE PROJECTS AT
10:00:34 THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
10:00:37 AND THEN AGAIN, WHEN IT IS ALL SAID AND DONE AND IT IS
10:00:42 FINISHED, A TRAINING CENTER TO LOOK AT ONE OF FASTEST
10:00:45 GROWING INDUSTRIES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE.
10:00:48 HEALTH CARE, INNOVATION, I.T.
10:00:51 SO WE CAN CONTINUE THIS TRAINING PROCESS AND SMALL
10:00:56 BUSINESSES THERE THAT WILL ALSO NEED THE SUPPORT OF A
10:00:58 WORKFORCE TRAINING OPERATION.
10:01:02 WE BROUGHT TOGETHER THE CDC OF TAMPA AND THE WEST TAMPA
10:01:04 CDC TO HELP WITH THE COMPONENTS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
10:01:07 AND WORK FORCE INITIATIVES.
10:01:10 EXCITED TO BE PART OF THIS PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY THIS
10:01:13 WILL BE A TREMENDOUS PROJECT THAT WE CAN REALLY SET AS
10:01:16 A BEST PRACTICE OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OTHER
10:01:18 PROJECTS GOING FORWARD.
10:01:18 THANK YOU.
10:01:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:01:26 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:01:28 >> ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:01:30 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:01:33 I CAME DOWN HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE COMPLAINT REGISTRY
10:01:38 THAT IS BEING HEARD LATER ON TODAY.
10:01:43 BUT I NOTICE ON THE AGENDA, ALSO, THERE IS SOMETHING
10:01:47 AROUND THE 60-DAY NOTICE OF RENT INCREASE.
10:01:50 I AM IN SUPPORT OF THAT.
10:01:52 I THINK COUNCIL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO DO
10:01:55 SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, RIGHT.
10:01:57 AND NOT TO FOLLOW A TREND.
10:02:07 ACROSS THE STATE, EVERYBODY IS GIVING A 60 DAY --
10:02:12 EVERYONE IS GIVING A 60-DAY NOTICE FOR RENT INCREASE.
10:02:16 WHEN A PERSON IS DEALING WITH THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE
10:02:22 HOUSING, THE LACK OF FINDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE
10:02:29 ACTUAL RENT INCREASE, AND OTHERS, IT WILL TAKE A PERSON
10:02:32 -- WE ARE PUSHING FOR A 90-DAY OPTION, INSTEAD OF THE
10:02:36 60 DAY TO PROVIDE THAT PERSON MORE TIME TO BE ABLE TO
10:02:40 SAVE THEIR MONEY, PAY FOR THE DEPOSIT, PAY FOR THE FEES
10:02:43 AND STILL PAY RENT WHERE THEY ARE.
10:02:44 SO WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF IT.
10:02:48 WE WANT IT TO BE EXPANDED.
10:02:52 I SENT INFORMATION TO -- TO TWO OF THE COUNCILMEN.
10:02:53 I WILL SEND IT TO EVERYONE.
10:02:55 ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE ARE SENDING OUT TO THE
10:02:59 COUNCILMEN I WILL SEND IT TO EVERYONE SO YOU CAN REVIEW
10:02:59 IT.
10:03:01 A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND
10:03:03 PROVIDE A DIFFERENT WAY FOR PEOPLE.
10:03:06 WE ARE -- LIKE I SAID WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE
10:03:08 COMPLAINT REGISTRY.
10:03:11 WHERE IT HOLDS ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE LANDLORDS.
10:03:11 RIGHT.
10:03:15 HAS TOO HOLD ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE LANDLORDS.
10:03:16 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:03:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:03:22 YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:03:24 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:03:30 >> MALIK EPDALA.
10:03:33 IT IS STILL MORNING BUT ANYWAY, WHATEVER AGREEMENT TO
10:03:35 ACCEPT IT IN THE APPROPRIATE TIME FRAME THAT IS
10:03:36 PRESENTED.
10:03:41 MY ISSUE IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:03:46 LET'S GO BACK SOME YEARS AND LOOK AT, HOW DO WE GET
10:03:48 HERE.
10:03:53 IN TERMS OF THIS HOUSING SITUATION OR THE PEOPLE OF LOW
10:03:57 INCOME OR MINIMUM INCOME.
10:04:03 NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD HOUSING THAT COME FROM GREEDY
10:04:06 MEN.
10:04:09 THAT OPPRESS PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.
10:04:16 OPPRESSING THEM EITHER -- EVEN FURTHER SO WHAT WE WANT
10:04:17 TO DO.
10:04:20 WE WANT TO REPRESENT THESE PEOPLE AND LET'S STOP THIS.
10:04:24 LET'S MAKE SURE THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOW INCOME, NO
10:04:28 INCOME, OR EVEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED FOR
10:04:32 MANY, MANY YEARS BY EUROPEAN AMERICANS.
10:04:33 THAT INCLUDE YOU GUYS.
10:04:37 YOU GUYS THAT ARE EUROPEANS UP HERE.
10:04:39 YOU ARE A PART OF THAT PROBLEM.
10:04:42 AND YOU ARE BENEFITING FROM IT.
10:04:45 SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANT TO STOP IT.
10:04:49 YOU GOT A COLLECTIVE MINDS HERE THAT CAN STOP IT.
10:04:54 SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THAT KEEP YOU FROM STOPPING IT?
10:04:57 PERHAPS IT IS YOUR POCKETBOOK, THE GREED THAT WE ALL
10:04:59 HAVE IN US.
10:05:02 SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED
10:05:04 400 YEARS.
10:05:06 400-PLUS YEARS.
10:05:07 ARE WE WILLING TO STOP IT?
10:05:10 NO, BECAUSE AGAIN WE ARE BENEFITTING FROM IT.
10:05:12 SO IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, TALK TO THOSE
10:05:15 PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING.
10:05:17 ASK THEM HOW CAN WE DO THIS.
10:05:19 GET THEM INVOLVED.
10:05:22 GET OUT YOUR ANTENNAS OUT THERE AND TALK TO THESE
10:05:23 PEOPLE.
10:05:25 SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE.
10:05:26 THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE.
10:05:27 YOU MAKE THE RULES.
10:05:29 AND YOU ALSO BREAK THE RULES.
10:05:35 AND YOU BREAK THE RULES BRETT OWEN IT IS APPROPRIATE OR
10:05:38 WHEN IT IS BENEFICIAL TO YOU THAT MAKE THE RULES.
10:05:42 SO WE CAN STOP THIS WITH A LITTLE APPLICATION,
10:05:44 INTELLIGENT APPLICATION.
10:05:46 CONCERN FOR YOUR FELLOW MAN.
10:05:47 WE ARE YOUR FELLOW MAN.
10:05:50 I REPRESENT PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED.
10:05:54 I AM NOT OPPRESSED ANYMORE BECAUSE I DON'T ALLOW MYSELF
10:05:55 TO BE OPPRESSED.
10:05:57 THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED THEY DON'T KNOW
10:05:59 AND DON'T SEE THE WAY OUT.
10:06:02 AND THIS WHOLE SITUATION IN THIS HOUSING THING AND
10:06:06 RESTORATION OF RIGHTS AND PRISON REFORM, ETC., ETC.,
10:06:09 THESE THINGS ARE BEING PROSTITUTED, SOLD TO THE HIGHEST
10:06:13 BIDDER, SOLD TO THE PERSON THAT CAN GARNISH THE MOST
10:06:16 MONEY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE STACKING THEIR POCKET OR
10:06:19 PACKING THEIR POCKET WITH THE BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS OF
10:06:21 THESE POOR PEOPLE.
10:06:22 THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
10:06:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:06:29 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:06:30 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
10:06:35 MY NAME IS LYNN MYERS, AND I LIVE IN ZIP CODE 33629,
10:06:36 SOUTH TAMPA.
10:06:39 I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO
10:06:40 ADDRESS YOU THIS MORNING.
10:06:44 PRETTY MUCH I WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT THE LAST TWO
10:06:46 SPEAKERS HAD TO SAY.
10:06:52 44% OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN TAMPA ARE RENTERS.
10:06:58 IN 2021, THERE WAS A 24% INCREASE IN RENTS IN THIS
10:06:59 CITY.
10:07:03 IT CONTINUES TO RISE.
10:07:06 I READ IN THE NEWSPAPER SO MANY CASES.
10:07:09 I HAVE SOME PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, MOSTLY FROM MY
10:07:14 CHILDREN'S FRIENDS WHO ARE GRADUATING FROM COLLEGE NOW.
10:07:20 THEY ARE TRYING TO GO OUT TO FIND AN APARTMENT TO LIVE.
10:07:23 THEY HAVE FAIRLY LOW WAGE JOBS.
10:07:27 THEY COULDN'T AFFORD AN APARTMENT IN TAMPA.
10:07:30 MAYBE THEY CAN AFFORD IT AN HOUR AND A HALF NORTH OF
10:07:34 HERE, BUT THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO WORK IN TAMPA AND LIVE
10:07:34 IN.
10:07:38 PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR MINIMUM WAGE, THERE IS NO WAY THAT
10:07:42 A PERSON MAKING MINIMUM WAGE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE
10:07:46 TAMPA AREA.
10:07:49 AND IT ESPECIALLY EFFECTS PEOPLE OF COLOR.
10:07:52 AND IT EFFECTS ALL OF US, BUT ESPECIALLY PEOPLE OF
10:07:53 COLOR.
10:07:56 AND WE SHOULD ALL CARE ABOUT EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN OUR
10:07:57 CITY.
10:08:01 BECAUSE THOSE WHO LIVE IN OUR CITY, ALL OF US, WHETHER
10:08:07 WE MAKE A LOT OF MONEY OR WHETHER WE MAKE LOW WAGES, WE
10:08:08 ALL PARTICIPATE HERE.
10:08:09 WE ALL LIVE HERE.
10:08:11 WE WORK HERE.
10:08:13 WE SPEND MONEY HERE.
10:08:16 ANYWAY.
10:08:19 WHAT I WANT TO SAY WHICH SEEMS TO BE OBVIOUS TO
10:08:24 EVERYONE, BUT I THINK WHICH IS OVERLOOKED IS THAT
10:08:32 SHELTER, FOOD AND WATER ARE BASIC NECESSITIES AND
10:08:35 PEOPLE IN TAMPA, MANY OF US CANNOT HAVE SHELTER.
10:08:38 IT'S VERY NICE THAT WE ARE GOING TO GIVE AN EXTRA
10:08:46 AMOUNT OF TIME FOR -- TO NOTIFY RENTERS THAT THEIR RENT
10:08:49 IS GOING TO GO UP, BUT IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY IT,
10:08:55 WHAT DOES THAT MATTER.
10:09:00 SO I'M HERE TO SAY THAT WE NEED -- I AM APPEALING -- I
10:09:02 AM APPEALING TO YOUR HUMANITY.
10:09:07 AND I AM IMPLORING YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND TO
10:09:13 DECLARE A HOUSING STATE OF EMERGENCY IN TAMPA SO THAT
10:09:17 RENT CONTROL CAN BECOME EFFECTIVE.
10:09:18 PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING.
10:09:21 THANK YOU.
10:09:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:28 PASTOR WILLIAMS, ARE YOU NEXT, SIR?
10:09:30 >> NO, GO AHEAD.
10:09:31 YOU ARE BEFORE ME.
10:09:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATES YOUR
10:09:33 NAME.
10:09:38 >> GOOD MORNING, BARBARA VAN ERDSALE.
10:09:41 I AM 71 AND I HAVE BEEN DISABLED A LONG TIME AND
10:09:43 SUFFERED A STROKE DURING A HURRICANE IN BROWARD COUNTY.
10:09:45 I WAS UNCONSCIOUS THREE WEEKS.
10:09:48 WOKE UP PARALYZED WITH MY LEFT ARM TO MOVE AND THAT WAS
10:09:48 IT.
10:09:50 I WENT HOME TO DIE.
10:09:54 I HAD A SPECIAL NEEDS SON THAT TURNED 26 THAT YEAR, WHO
10:09:57 WAS STILL LIVING WITH ME WHO WAS MOVING TO ESTONIA TO
10:09:57 GET MARRIED.
10:09:59 WE NEVER THOUGHT HE WOULD GET THERE.
10:10:02 NOT ONLY DID HE GET THERE, BUT I GOT MY CONDO ON THE
10:10:07 MARKET FOR SALE A YEAR AGO AND BACK OUT IN PUBLIC THREE
10:10:10 YEARS AGO, GOING THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
10:10:13 TRYING TO MAKE THE HOUSING SITUATION SAFER FOR MY
10:10:16 NEIGHBORS WHO WERE ALL BEING FORCED OUT OF THEIR
10:10:16 CONDOS.
10:10:20 I WATCHED HOW THE CONDOMINIUM, ATTORNEYS AND THE
10:10:25 REALTORS BULLIED US AND FORCED US OUT OF OUR HOMES.
10:10:28 AND THERE WASN'T A THING ANYBODY CAN TO DO STOP IT, NO
10:10:32 MATTER WHAT I SAID AND DID AT MEETINGS, I WAS SHUT DOWN
10:10:35 FROM EVERY LEVEL ILLEGALLY AND NOBODY CAME TO MY
10:10:36 RESCUE.
10:10:41 IT GOT SO BAD, I FINALLY WENT OUT UNDER THE NAME OF
10:10:44 BARBARA BUNNY WITH BUNNY EARS ON TO GET THE ATTENTION
10:10:47 OF THE MAYOR AND POLITICIANS AND PLED WITH THEM.
10:10:48 WE ARE LOSING OUR HOMES.
10:10:52 OUR CONDOMINIUMS ARE BEING LIVED IN BY PEOPLE FROM
10:10:55 OTHER COUNTRIES WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALLY PAYING THREE
10:10:59 TIMES WHAT WE CAN AFFORD AND NOBODY IS STOPPING THEM.
10:11:02 I AM ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE LEFT THAT OWN.
10:11:06 AND I'M HERE LIVING BY MYSELF, GETTING INJURED AND HURT
10:11:11 DAILY AND DOCUMENTATION FROM EVERY SOURCE OF LEGAL AID
10:11:15 TO THE REALTORS TO BROWARD LAWYERS CARE.
10:11:17 NOBODY HELPED ME.
10:11:23 I BEGGED FOR THEM TO STOP THE LIEN ON MY CONDO TO BE
10:11:25 RECOGNIZED AS ILLEGAL.
10:11:31 AND I WAS TOLD BY BROWARD LAWYERS CARE, PAY THE
10:11:34 SHYSTERS.
10:11:35 THEY ALWAYS WIN.
10:11:35 YOU HAVE NO RECOURSE.
10:11:37 I PAID THEM.
10:11:40 FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I PLAYED SHYSTERS.
10:11:43 THEY TURNED AROUND AND BILLED ME MORE MONEY AND WANTED
10:11:45 ME TO PAY MORE MONEY AND EXTORTED ME.
10:11:50 FROM THAT POINT ON, I REFUSED AND FOUR YEARS BY THIS
10:11:52 LITTLE NICK OF MY LIFE KNOWING AT ANY MOMENT I COULD BE
10:11:56 OUT OF MY HOME WITH NO PLACE TO GO AND NO FAMILY HERE
10:11:57 ON SOCIAL SECURITY.
10:12:02 WELL, I FINALLY SOLD MY CONDO, BUT TRYING TO SELL IT,
10:12:05 EVEN THE COMMISSIONER IN THE CITY OF MARGATE TRIED TO
10:12:08 LIST IT $30,000 UNDER VALUE.
10:12:10 IF I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING, I WOULD HAVE BEEN
10:12:11 CHEATED THERE TOO.
10:12:14 BUT I ASKED HIM TO LEAVE WHEN I KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING.
10:12:19 MEANWHILE I WENT TOO A CONDO CLOSING WITHOUT LEGAL AID
10:12:23 TO HELP ME AND I BEGGED FOR THEM TO HELP ME AND I HAVE
10:12:26 THEIR FOLLOW-UP LETTERS THEY SAID NOTHING I COULD DO.
10:12:27 I WAS ON MY OWN.
10:12:32 THEY DID A CLOSING WITHOUT EVEN TELLING ME WHAT THEY
10:12:35 WERE DOING AND TRIED TO GET ME TO SIGN AN ADDENDUM
10:12:40 SAYING I WAS GOING TO RENT MY CONDO BACK FOR $1200 A
10:12:42 MONTH BECAUSE THEY PERFORMANCE AND IT WAS SPRING BREAK
10:12:44 AND I HAD NOWHERE TO MOVE NOW.
10:12:46 THEY LEFT ME IN THE LURCH.
10:12:49 THE PERSON THAT BOUGHT MY CONDO IS FROM ANOTHER
10:12:50 COUNTRY.
10:12:51 DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS.
10:12:54 THE REALTOR, HE IS FROM ANOTHER COUNTRIES.
10:12:58 HE WORKS OUT OF AVENTURA.
10:13:00 HE DIDN'T COME TO THE CLOSING.
10:13:01 HE WAS ON THE PHONE SAYING SIGN THIS.
10:13:03 THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD SIGN.
10:13:04 EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO SIGN.
10:13:07 IT WAS SAYING IF I MOVE FROM MY CONDO AND SELL IT AT
10:13:11 THIS PRICE TODAY, NOT ONLY AM I GOING TO BE A RENTER, I
10:13:14 DON'T HAVE ANY LEGAL RIGHTS BUT I HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT
10:13:17 CONDO AND ALL REPAIRS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT AS AN OWN
10:13:19 WE ARE NO PRIVILEGE.
10:13:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:13:21 >> THEY SCAMMED ME.
10:13:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:13:23 >> NOW IN TAMPA --
10:13:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO MA'AM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:13:28 >> I AM SORRY, I DIDN'T GET TO THE TAMPA STORY.
10:13:31 I WAS ASKED TO SIGN A LEASE YESTERDAY SAYING I HAVE TO
10:13:35 GIVE THEM 60-DAY NOTICE TO MOVE OR I HAVE TO PAY $1800
10:13:41 THIS YEAR AND GIVING NO NOTICE, BY MAY 1 WITH -- WITH
10:13:45 NO NOTICE MY SOCIAL SECURITY DOESN'T EVEN COVER IT AND
10:13:48 IT SHOULD BE CONDEMNED, 288 SQUARE FEET WITH RODENTS,
10:13:52 RATS, NO DISABILITY ACCESS, MY WHEELCHAIR WON'T GO ON
10:13:53 THE SIDEWALK.
10:13:56 I FALL OUT AND THIS IS WHY I'M HERE TODAY.
10:13:59 CAME FROM BROWARD COUNTY TO GET A BETTER HOUSE AND THIS
10:14:00 IS WHERE I AM IN TAMPA HOUSING.
10:14:03 I AM ON A WAIT LIST AND I CAN'T GET AN APPOINTMENT TO
10:14:04 MEET WITH THEM.
10:14:04 I NEED HELP.
10:14:07 I DON'T WANT TO BE HOMELESS MAY 1.
10:14:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:14:12 >> I GET CONFUSED AND RATTLED WHEN I GET EXCITED.
10:14:13 EXCUSE ME FOR GOING ON.
10:14:15 YOU CAN BACK ME UP.
10:14:18 I AM OUT OF HERE.
10:14:20 I FELT LAST FRIDAY IN FRONT OF SOCIAL SECURITY.
10:14:25 AND I'M PRETTY INJURED.
10:14:28 BUT I GOT HOME.
10:14:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:14:33 >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SAY -- OKAY.
10:14:34 YOU ARE GOING -- OKAY.
10:14:39 I WAS GOING TO HAVE MY OFFICE -- BUT IF MR. BENNETT.
10:14:43 THERE YOU GO, THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT.
10:14:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:14:52 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:14:53 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:14:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATES YOUR NAME.
10:15:01 >> IRMA PHILISTINE, AND I LIVE AT 812 WEST COLUMBUS
10:15:02 DRIVE.
10:15:06 MY ZIP CODE 33602.
10:15:10 I HAVE BEEN COMING HERE IN THE PAST.
10:15:15 WHAT HAPPENED IN 2004 OUT OF NOWHERE, RIGHT IN THE
10:15:20 MIDDLE OF THE STREET, IT WAS ON THE WEEKEND -- NOT
10:15:25 WEEKDAYS, SOMEONE -- WELL, I UNDERSTAND DEPARTMENT OF
10:15:31 TRANSPORTATION OR THE CITY, THEY HAD ME GOING AROUND
10:15:35 SINCE 2007, THAT'S WHEN I BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION
10:15:39 THAT MY HOUSE WAS VIBRATING FROM WHATEVER TYPE OF WORK
10:15:41 THEY HAD DONE ON THE STREET.
10:15:48 MEANWHILE, THEY SEND ME ALL OVER -- I THINK BASICALLY I
10:15:51 KNOW BY NOW EVERYBODY IN THE CITY.
10:15:57 FROM MAYOR PAM -- MY APOLOGY.
10:16:00 TRYING TO PRONOUNS.
10:16:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IORIO.
10:16:08 >> AND FROM HER ALL THE WAY TO -- NOT THE NEW MAYOR --
10:16:10 THE ONE PAST.
10:16:18 ANYWAY, NOBODY EVER REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO THE PROBLEM
10:16:20 I HAVE BEEN HAVING.
10:16:24 IT IS THE STRUCTURE OF -- OF THE HOUSE.
10:16:25 BECAUSE IT VIBRATES.
10:16:28 IT HAS BEEN VIBRATING.
10:16:31 MY CHILDREN MOVED 15 YEARS AGO.
10:16:34 MY MOTHER WANTS TO LIVE WITH ME -- ACTUALLY I HAVE BEEN
10:16:37 LIVING MORE THAN 15 YEARS AT THE HOUSE BY MYSELF
10:16:40 BECAUSE I WAS AFRAID HAVING SOMEONE ELSE LIVING IN THE
10:16:44 HOUSE WITH ME.
10:16:47 AND ANYWAY, I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS.
10:16:50 I CAN'T AFFORD GOING AND GET ANOTHER PLACE.
10:16:52 PRICES ARE SO EXPENSIVE.
10:16:55 THE THING IS WHAT I NOTICE -- WELL, A LOT OF CITIES,
10:16:58 ESPECIALLY TAMPA, THAT'S WHERE I HAVE BEEN LIVING, THE
10:17:02 STRUCTURE, THE FOUNDATION, YOU KNOW ARE NOT PAYING
10:17:03 ATTENTION TO THAT.
10:17:05 THAT IS WHERE WE ARE.
10:17:07 THAT IS WHERE THE CARS DRIVE.
10:17:10 THAT IS WHERE IT IS SUSTAINED -- EVERYTHING ON THE
10:17:11 SURFACE.
10:17:15 YOU HAVE PEOPLE DOING A LITTLE LOUSY WORK OUT THERE.
10:17:20 AND THOSE THAT ARE -- THEY GIVE FAVOR CONTRACT TO DO
10:17:24 THE WORK, I AM WONDERING WHO GOES BEHIND THEM AND SEE
10:17:26 IF THE WORK WAS DONE PROPERLY.
10:17:29 AND IT IS NOT JUST ME.
10:17:35 FROM THE BRIDGE ALL THE WAY TO BOULEVARD, IT IS ALL
10:17:36 SCREWED UP.
10:17:36 I DON'T KNOW.
10:17:40 I MEAN SOMETIMES I DON'T SLEEP IN MY HOUSE -- I MEAN,
10:17:44 INSIDE OF MY HOUSE BECAUSE SEEMS LIKE SOME -- FROM THE
10:17:46 BEGINNING -- IT IS A LONG STORY.
10:17:50 ANYWAY, I WANT SOMEBODY TO TELL ME WHAT I MUST DO
10:17:54 BECAUSE THAT IS MY INTENTION TO REMAIN WHERE I AM.
10:17:58 I DON'T HAVE THE KIND OF MONEY TO MOVE ON.
10:18:00 AND PLAN TO GO FROM THE CITY TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
10:18:03 TRANSPORTATION.
10:18:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:18:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I REMEMBER YOU TALKED TO ME LAST WEEK
10:18:08 ABOUT THAT.
10:18:11 WE SENT THAT OVER TO THE COUNTY, BECAUSE OUR CITY FOLKS
10:18:14 SAID THAT THE COUNTY WORKED ON THAT ROAD OUT THERE.
10:18:16 >> NO, NOT A PROBLEM WITH THE COUNTY.
10:18:19 A PROBLEM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE IT IS UNDERNEATH
10:18:23 WHERE THE WATER AND ALL THE SEWER AND ALL THE THINGS.
10:18:25 WHO TAKES CARE OF THAT.
10:18:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIGHT.
10:18:29 BUT WHAT I AM SAYING, MAN, WHENEVER -- WHATEVER WORK
10:18:33 THEY DID THEY UNSETTLED THE UNDERNEATH GROUND.
10:18:37 IF IT IS UNSETTLED MAYBE THEY CAN GO OUT AND SEE WHAT
10:18:37 HAPPENED.
10:18:39 >> THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, SIR.
10:18:40 EXCUSE ME.
10:18:43 I AM JUST TIRED OF THE THIS AND THAT AND BLAMING OTHER
10:18:43 PERSON.
10:18:48 NOBODY HAS TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY.
10:18:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND I AGREE.
10:18:52 THAT IS WHY WHEN MY OFFICE FOUND OUT WHO DID THE WORK
10:18:56 OUT THERE, WE SENT IT OVER HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
10:18:57 BECAUSE THEY DID THE WORK.
10:19:01 SO THEY ARE THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY TO GO OUT AND SEE
10:19:02 WHAT IS DONE.
10:19:05 >> LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING WITHOUT CUTTING YOU OFF, I
10:19:05 APOLOGIZE.
10:19:08 I WENT TO THE COUNTY, WHAT THE COUNTY DID, I SPOKE TO
10:19:09 SEVERAL PEOPLE.
10:19:12 AND I HAVE PICTURES FROM WAY BACK.
10:19:14 THEY DELETE THE PICTURES.
10:19:16 THEY DELETE -- SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING TO IT.
10:19:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY
10:19:22 AGAIN MISS MYERS' OFFICE AND HOPEFULLY TO GET SOME KIND
10:19:23 OF RESOLUTION FOR YOU.
10:19:24 >> THERE HAS TO BE.
10:19:25 BECAUSE I AM NOT MOVING.
10:19:28 I CAN'T AFFORD THE HOUSES OUT THERE.
10:19:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND.
10:19:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:19:38 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I WILL BE BACK TOO.
10:19:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:19:42 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
10:19:44 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:19:46 >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:19:49 ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO KNOW, YOU CAN'T STOP
10:19:50 CAPITALISM.
10:19:54 SO RENT INCREASES, RENT DECREASES, INFLATION.
10:19:57 YOU CAN'T STOP CAPITALISM.
10:20:01 PUTIN RIGHT NOW IN UKRAINE TRYING TO STOP CAPITALISM.
10:20:05 AND PEOPLE SCREAMING INFLATION AND HIGH PRICES, THEY
10:20:08 ARE SCREAMING THEY ARE AGAINST RUSSIA IN A CERTAIN WAY.
10:20:12 SO ONLY SOCIALISM CAN STOP CAPITALISM.
10:20:13 THE BIG PICTURE.
10:20:16 THE GENTLEMAN HERE NAMED IT BEST.
10:20:19 PEOPLE ARE PIMPING SITUATION AND PIMPING BLACK PEOPLE.
10:20:22 PRISONER RIGHTS, RESTORATION, RENT INCREASES, WHAT THEY
10:20:26 ARE DOING FOR AFRICAN AND WHAT NOT, A PIMP GAME.
10:20:28 NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
10:20:32 WE AFRICAN PEOPLE ON THIS SOIL BEEN 400 YEARS
10:20:32 OPPRESSED.
10:20:36 400 YEARS OPPRESSED AND PIMPING US.
10:20:38 PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY FOR DRIVER'S LICENSES.
10:20:41 PAID FOR BEING A RETURN CITIZEN AND ALL THE STUPIDNESS.
10:20:47 THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, 98% OF AFRICAN PEOPLE
10:20:50 SHOULDN'T GO IN THE FIRST PLACE, IN THE FIRST PLACE
10:20:52 THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN TO PRISON.
10:20:54 UNLESS YOU ARE TALKING OF REPARATIONS, YOU ARE JUST
10:20:55 PIMPING THE SITUATION.
10:20:57 AND THIS CITY OWES US REPARATIONS.
10:21:01 SO AS A MATTER OF FACT, FROM TODAY, APRIL -- THURSDAY,
10:21:07 APRIL 21, 2022, MENTESNOT IS CALLING THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:21:09 THIS CITY COUNCIL TO IMMEDIATELY APPOINT A COMMITTEE TO
10:21:12 STUDY THE EXACT AMOUNT OF REPARATIONS THAT THIS CITY OF
10:21:17 TAMPA OWE AFRICAN PEOPLE BASED ON THE CITY BUDGET SINCE
10:21:19 1885.
10:21:22 OR SINCE THE CITY OF TAMPA WAS FORMED TO THE CURRENT
10:21:26 DATE OF THURSDAY, APRIL 21, 2022.
10:21:29 STOP PLAYING GAMES WITH AFRICAN PEOPLE.
10:21:31 THE SAME WAY THE MAYOR CAN PUT A PROGRAM INTO PLACE TO
10:21:36 INVESTIGATE THE ACTIONS OR PERSONAL BEHAVIOR PATTERNS
10:21:41 OF ORLANDO GUDES IS THE SAME WAY WE AFRICAN PEOPLE IN
10:21:44 THE CITY OF TAMPA AND MAYOR AND THIS CITY COUNCIL TO
10:21:49 IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM TO LOOK AT THE REPARATION SO WE AS
10:21:52 AFRICAN-AMERICANS KNOW HOW MUCH THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR
10:21:55 DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES SINCE 1885.
10:22:00 USING THE DIVERSIONARY TACTICS OF INVESTIGATING BLACK
10:22:04 POLITICIAN, GIVING PETTY COOKING CONTRACTS TO BLACK
10:22:10 ENTREPRENEURS, APPOINTING TOKEN, TOKEN HEAD NEGROS TO
10:22:13 MANY DISPOSITIONS AND TRYING TO CARRY OUT BUSINESS AS
10:22:17 USUAL BY DENYING BLACK PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHAT
10:22:19 IS RIGHTFULLY OURS IS DONE AND OVER WITH.
10:22:23 WE ARE 26% OF TO THIS POPULATION AND WE WANT 26% OF
10:22:24 THIS CITY BUDGET.
10:22:26 PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
10:22:29 I DON'T CARE IF WE SPEND IT ON BEER.
10:22:31 WE WANT 26% OF THIS CITY BUDGET.
10:22:37 AND ALL THIS DIVERSIONARY TACTICS ABOUT WHATSOEVER IT
10:22:37 IS.
10:22:40 BLACK PEOPLE, WE HAVE BEEN GETTING OUTS OF KICKED OUT
10:22:43 OF HOMES AND MOVED AROUND FOR 100 AND SOME YEARS IN
10:22:44 THIS CITY.
10:22:45 SO ALL THAT HAVE TO STOP.
10:22:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:22:54 YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:22:56 >> CAPTAIN FRANK WILLIAMS.
10:23:00 LOCATED 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
10:23:04 I HAVE BEEN COME DOWN FOR MANY YEARS AND NEVER GET ANY
10:23:04 RESULTS.
10:23:07 I GUESS BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT THE COLOR OF MY SKIN AND
10:23:09 THEY SAY, WELL, THAT IS A BLACK MAN.
10:23:12 REGARDLESS, I DON'T COME TO REPRESENT BLACK AND WHITE.
10:23:14 I COME HERE TO REPRESENT JESUS CHRIST.
10:23:18 I AM GOING TO READ SCRIPTURE WHAT GOD GAVE TO ME, IF I
10:23:22 SHOWED UP AT HEAVEN THAT THERE IS NO RAIN THAT IS
10:23:25 COMING FROM 2 CORINTHIAN 7:13-14.
10:23:28 AND THERE WILL BE NO RAIN.
10:23:32 IF I COMMAND THE LOCALS TO DIVIDE THE LAND.
10:23:37 OR IF I SENT PESTILENCE TO DESTROY THE LAND.
10:23:42 AND IF MY PEOPLE, WHICH ARE CALLED BY MY NAME SHALL
10:23:48 HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND PRAY AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED
10:23:53 WAY THEN CAN I HEAR FROM HEAVEN AND I HEAR THE LAND.
10:23:56 AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU MIGHT BE CITY COUNCIL,
10:24:02 BUT WHO IS IN CONTROL OF THAT LAND, IS GOD ALMIGHTY.
10:24:03 I KNOW Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT.
10:24:05 YOU THINK YOU ARE IN CONTROL.
10:24:08 I HAVE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
10:24:11 AND WHEN I FIRST STARTED COMING OUT HERE, YOU AIN'T HAD
10:24:14 NOTHING BUT WHITE FOLKS ON THE PLATFORM.
10:24:16 BUT NOW OFF BLACK MAN UP THERE AND THEY ARE TRYING TO
10:24:18 GET RID OF HIM.
10:24:21 BUT WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, I DON'T COME HERE TO
10:24:22 REPRESENT BLACK FOLK.
10:24:26 I COME TO REPRESENT JESUS CHRIST.
10:24:30 WHO LOVE OUR LIFE AND BLESS ME ALL OF THESE MANY YEARS.
10:24:35 YOU KNOW, I HAVE A CHURCH ON 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
10:24:36 THE WHITE FOLKS WANT THE LAND.
10:24:39 THEY DON'T WANT THE CHURCH TO BE THERE.
10:24:42 BUT I AM STILL THERE AND I SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO STAY
10:24:44 THERE DURING THE TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN THERE.
10:24:46 BUT THEY DON'T CARE.
10:24:52 THEY WANT TO GIVE PENNIES FOR MY PROPERTY AND OVERLOOK
10:24:52 ME.
10:24:55 I GOT A PARKING LOT IN THE BACK THERE.
10:24:59 THEY DONE FENCE ALL OF THAT IN.
10:25:01 CALMED AND INVITED THEM DOWN THERE.
10:25:03 YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO?
10:25:06 THEY TOLD ME I AM STANDING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
10:25:12 THAT CHURCH WAS BUILT IN 1998.
10:25:15 AND BUILT IN 1924.
10:25:21 AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAD TO -- IN TAMPA, THEY TOOK THE
10:25:23 PLAQUE WITH THEM ONCE THEY GOT OUT OF THERE.
10:25:27 BUT I GOT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO DO
10:25:28 GOD'S BUSINESS.
10:25:31 AND WE WANT YOU TO RESPECT MANKIND.
10:25:35 DON'T JUST LOOK AT THE COLOR OF PEOPLE'S SKIN OR WE ARE
10:25:37 GOING TO DO THIS BECAUSE SOUTH FLORIDA JUST LEFT OUT OF
10:25:40 HERE OPINION DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN FOR THEM.
10:25:43 BUT YOU AIN'T GOING TO DO NOTHING FOR ME AND MY CHURCH.
10:25:47 AND NOW I AM IN TROUBLE BECAUSE I WANT YOU ALL -- TO
10:25:50 COME TO PROTECT THAT YOU WILL ACKNOWLEDGE MY CHURCH.
10:25:55 IF Y'ALL WANT ME OUT OF 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET, PAY ME
10:25:55 SOME FUNDS.
10:25:57 I WILL BE GLAD TO GET OUT OF THERE.
10:25:59 BECAUSE OF THE WAY YOU ARE TREATING ME.
10:26:04 MISTREATING NOT ONLY ME BUT MY PEOPLE.
10:26:05 AND I DON'T LIKE IT.
10:26:06 GOD DOESN'T LIKE IT EITHER.
10:26:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:10 >> WE GOT TO TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
10:26:14 AND WHAT THEY CALL GAY RIGHTS, HOMOSEXUAL RIGHTS,
10:26:15 PROSTITUTION RIGHTS.
10:26:17 Y'ALL NEED TO GIVE ME MY RIGHTS.
10:26:23 AND THAT -- AND -- GIVE ME SOME RIGHTS.
10:26:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:26:26 >> I TRY TO DO EVERYTHING THAT IS RIGHT BEFORE THE
10:26:29 PEOPLE AND TRY TO RESPECT GOD WITH EVERYTHING THAT I
10:26:32 GOT IN ME.
10:26:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:37 >> I WANT Y'ALL -- WANT SOMEBODY TO COME DOWN TO 1112
10:26:40 EAST SCOTT STREET AND SEE WHERE THEY FENCED ME IN.
10:26:42 I CAN'T EVEN GET TO THE BACK OF MY CHURCH.
10:26:44 THAT IS RIDICULOUS.
10:26:47 AND THEY ARE NOT -- MAKES NO SENSE.
10:26:49 NONE MUCH YOU ALL.
10:26:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO COME DOWN THERE.
10:26:53 >> WHY DON'T YOU COME DOWN THERE.
10:26:55 LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU CAN COME DOWN THERE.
10:26:57 AND I WANT YOU TO COME DOWN THERE.
10:27:00 AND I WILL SHOW YOU THE INJUSTICE THAT GOES ON AROUND
10:27:01 MY CHURCH.
10:27:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LISA, IF YOU ARE WATCHING, CAN YOU
10:27:06 SPEAK WITH THE GENTLEMAN AND GET HIS CONTACT
10:27:06 INFORMATION.
10:27:09 I KNOW WHERE THE CHURCH IS AT.
10:27:11 >> WHO I DO NEED TO SPEAK TO?
10:27:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM SORRY.
10:27:16 >> WHO I DO NEED TO SPEAK TO?
10:27:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY AIDE WILL COME OUT AND GET YOUR
10:27:22 PHONE NUMBER.
10:27:23 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:27:24 HERE SHE IS.
10:27:25 YES, MA'AM.
10:27:27 >> YES, GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
10:27:34 I USED TO KNOW SCRIPTURE POINTS, BUT MY GRANDMOTHER
10:27:37 ALWAYS SAID THAT A PERSON'S NAME AT DEATH IS BETTER
10:27:39 THAN AT BIRTH.
10:27:43 SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE HONORING SISTER DEBBY THIS
10:27:44 MORNING.
10:27:47 EVEN IN SOME OF MY WORST DAYS HERE, SHE WOULD SAY IT
10:27:49 WOULD GET BETTER.
10:27:53 MY DEEPEST CONDOLENCE TO HER AND HER FAMILY.
10:27:55 SO WHAT WE ARE HEARING THIS MORNING IS, OF COURSE, THE
10:28:00 ISSUES OF THE PEOPLE ALWAYS, WHETHER IT IS BAN THE BOX.
10:28:04 MAKING SURE PEOPLE GET JUSTICE ON THE BACK END AND
10:28:06 RESTORING OF RIGHTS.
10:28:10 GIVING BOTH OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD, RENT
10:28:10 STABILIZATION.
10:28:16 THE PEOPLE ARE CALLING ON YOU TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE, TO DO
10:28:19 SOME THINGS THAT IS OUT OF THE ORDINARY.
10:28:27 THAT EVEN IF WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL, A CITY GOVERNMENT
10:28:29 THAT IS USED TO WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS.
10:28:33 YOU YOURSELVES AS FAMILY PEOPLE MEETING YOUR
10:28:36 CONSTITUENTS IN THE GROCERY STORE, YOU HEAR IT ALL THE
10:28:36 TIME.
10:28:39 LET US TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT HERE IN THIS CITY.
10:28:45 I KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES OF ACCESSORY DWELLING
10:28:45 UNITS.
10:28:47 THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN TRY.
10:28:50 MAYBE YOU DON'T LIKE THAT STRUCTURE OF A CONTAINER,
10:28:52 LET'S TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
10:28:54 I BELIEVE THAT TAMPA CAN BE THE MODEL.
10:28:59 I AM HOPING THAT WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS AGENDA
10:29:02 TODAY, THAT WE JUST DON'T SIGN OFF WITH PEOPLE THAT --
10:29:07 THAT THEY -- THAT WILL BE ABLE TO PRODUCE A RESULT THAT
10:29:09 WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN IN THE PAST.
10:29:13 VERY BLUNTLY, SOME APPRENTICE PROGRAM HAVE NOT WORKED.
10:29:14 THEY HAVE NOT WORKED.
10:29:16 THEY LOOK GOOD ON PAPER.
10:29:19 THEIR NUMBERS MIGHT ADD UP, BUT WHEN WE ARE IN OUR
10:29:21 COMMUNITY ASKING WHY PEOPLE ARE NOT EMPLOYED, IT IS
10:29:24 BECAUSE IT DON'T HAVE FULL VISION.
10:29:30 SO I HOPE YOU STAY LASER FOCUSED WHETHER THE ROME YARD,
10:29:32 HANNA STREET PROJECT, THE WATER.
10:29:33 ALL OF IT.
10:29:36 MAKE SURE THAT OUR PARTNERS ARE DOING THE RIGHT BY THE
10:29:36 PEOPLE.
10:29:39 AND IF THEY ARE DOING RIGHT BY THE PEOPLE, WE WILL BE
10:29:39 ALL RIGHT.
10:29:40 THANK YOU.
10:29:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:29:46 MR. RALPH -- NO?
10:29:49 YES, SIR.
10:29:50 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:29:51 PETER RALPH.
10:29:54 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
10:29:56 IT IS VERY FITTING AFTER A LOT OF THIS PUBLIC COMMENT
10:30:00 OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS THAT TODAY AT 1:30,
10:30:03 YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO APPROVE THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
10:30:06 AS OTHERS HAVE SAID THIS MORNING, THE PROJECT ISN'T
10:30:09 JUST ABOUT HOUSING, IT IS ABOUT A HOLISTIC COMMUNITY
10:30:11 AND CREATING SERVICES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL
10:30:15 BUSINESSES TO CREATE A TRUE LIVE-WORK-PLAY ENVIRONMENT
10:30:19 THAT IS NOT ONLY WITHIN OUR URBAN CORE OR OUR BROGUE
10:30:23 URBAN CORE BUT CONNECTED TO THE RIVERWALK AND OTHER
10:30:27 BIKE AND WALK CONNECTIONS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAYBE NOT
10:30:30 EVEN NEED TO HAVE A CAR AND USE OTHER SERVICES TO GET
10:30:34 TO AND FROM WHERE THEY NEED AND TO WALK WITHIN THEIR
10:30:35 COMMUNITY TO GET FOOD.
10:30:36 TO GET A MEAL.
10:30:40 TO HAVE A PLACE OF BUSINESS, ETC.
10:30:42 ONE THING YOU SHOULD ALSO NOTE, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT
10:30:45 TEAM OF RELATED URBAN AND TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY ALONG
10:30:48 WITH THE CDC OF TAMPA BAY -- OF TAMPA.
10:30:52 AND THE WEST TAMPA CDC HAVE COMMITTED TO BUILDING TO
10:30:56 THE MOST ROBUST, GREEN BUILDING STANDARDS.
10:31:01 THE USGBC'S LEAD SILVER STANDARD FOR ALL OF THEIR
10:31:06 BUILDINGS AND ALSO COMMITTED TO LOOK AT THE SITE DESIGN
10:31:09 TO COMMIT THESE WITH HEALTHY DESIGN PRINCIPLES, SIMILAR
10:31:11 TO THE PRINCIPLES AT WATER STREET.
10:31:13 THE WELL BUILDING STANDARDS.
10:31:15 THE WELL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
10:31:18 AND LEAD FOR NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT AND ETC.
10:31:22 THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITIES HERE TODAY TO
10:31:23 APPROVE AT 1:30.
10:31:28 954 AFFORDABLE AND MIXED INCOME UNITS AND I ENCOURAGE
10:31:30 YOU ALL TO PLEASE SUPPORT IT.
10:31:34 AND ALSO KNOW THEY ARE DOING GREAT WORK ON THE WEST
10:31:34 RIVER.
10:31:36 AND PETER AND ALBERT AND THEIR TEAM AS WELL AS THE
10:31:39 HOUSING AUTHORITY ARE GREAT PARTNERS.
10:31:43 THEY HAVE OPEN EARS AND THEY ARE GOOD, TRUE PARTNERS TO
10:31:46 OUR COMMUNITY AND I HOPE YOU SUPPORT WHAT THEY ARE
10:31:46 DOING TODAY.
10:31:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MANY DID YOU SAY IN AFFORDABLE
10:31:49 UNITS?
10:31:54 >> 80% OF THE 954, I THINK, IS THAT RIGHT?
10:31:55 YEAH.
10:31:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
10:31:59 OKAY, THERE IS DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
10:32:02 >>BILL CARLSON: SOME OF THEM ARE LIKE 140% AMI.
10:32:05 SO NOT ACTUALLY --
10:32:07 >> I AM SURE THIS AFTERNOON THEY WILL BE HAPPY TO GET
10:32:08 INTO THE DETAILS.
10:32:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:32:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.
10:32:16 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
10:32:20 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO ADDRESS YOU.
10:32:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR NAME.
10:32:23 >> AMAN BRADFORD.
10:32:25 I AM MARINE CORPS VETERAN.
10:32:28 STUDENT AT USF.
10:32:36 I -- I DIDN'T HAVE -- I HEARD ABOUT THIS MEETING ABOUT
10:32:38 THE RUNAWAY RENT CRISIS.
10:32:41 IT FEELS LIKE FOR ME, I HAD A LOT OF DIFFICULTY USING
10:32:45 MY VA HOME LOAN, BECAUSE I AM COMPETING AGAINST A LOT
10:32:49 OF PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST PUTTING DOWN -- MONEY DOWN.
10:32:55 AND IT LEAVES ME WITHOUT AN OPTION TO REALLY -- TO GET
10:33:02 A DECENT HOME FOR MYSELF AND MY FAMILY.
10:33:03 NOW I HAVE A FRIEND.
10:33:06 SHE IS ALSO A FORMER MARINE.
10:33:07 SHE IS A SINGLE MOTHER.
10:33:12 AND SHE IS ACTUALLY DEALING WITH A MONTH-TO-MONTH
10:33:13 BASIS.
10:33:20 AND THEY ARE INCREASING HER MONTHLY RATE $200.
10:33:21 EACH MONTH.
10:33:26 SO THEY ARE BASICALLY TRYING TO FORCE HER OUT.
10:33:29 AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IS RIGHT,
10:33:32 ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY -- THERE ARE A LOT OF
10:33:35 NEW MONEY COMING INTO THE STATE, IN MY OPINION.
10:33:37 AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF
10:33:38 THAT.
10:33:43 AND I AM AFRAID THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF
10:33:44 HOMELESS PEOPLE.
10:33:46 AND I JUST -- I REALLY HOPE THAT THERE IS SOMETHING
10:33:53 THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO WITH THIS RENT REGULATION OR
10:33:56 SOMETHING TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM -- FROM HAVING TO GO
10:33:57 THROUGH THAT.
10:34:00 THAT IS IT.
10:34:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:34:03 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:34:07 YES, SIR.
10:34:08 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:34:14 JULIUS DAVIS, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF VOLT AIR.
10:34:18 I WANT TO SUPPORT THE ROME YARD.
10:34:22 URBAN IS COMMITTED TO MINORITY FIRMS SUCH AS MINE.
10:34:26 WE ARE THE DESIGN SIDE OF THE PROJECT.
10:34:30 IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US AMONGST OTHER MINORITY
10:34:32 FIRMS.
10:34:35 THEY HAVE REALLY COMMITTED IN THE PAST.
10:34:39 AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, REALLY ARE COMMITTING NOW.
10:34:44 I AM A NATIVE FOURTH-GENERATION NATIVE OF TAMPA.
10:34:48 IT IS GREAT TO SEE TAMPA EXPAND THE WAY IT IS EXPANDING
10:34:52 AND IT FEELS GREAT TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING TO HELP
10:34:56 TAMPA GROW AND TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THOSE THAT ARE
10:35:01 CHALLENGING LIVING IN THE GROWING CITY THE WAY IT IS
10:35:03 NOW WITH THE RATES.
10:35:08 BUT I DO WANT TO VOICE MY OPINIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, MY
10:35:13 COMPANY, AMONGST MANY WOMEN AND MINORITY-OWNED FIRM ARE
10:35:14 PART OF THIS ESTABLISHMENT.
10:35:16 IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HELP US GROW.
10:35:22 TO HIRE LOCAL TALENT, AS WELL AS INTERNSHIPS FOR USF
10:35:24 AND HCC.
10:35:26 SO THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT.
10:35:27 THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.
10:35:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:35:31 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:35:34 YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:35:40 >> GOOD MORNING, ERNIE DUBOIS, CEO OF DUCON LCC AND DUCON
10:35:43 PLUMBING LCC.
10:35:46 BOTH TAMPA MINORITY CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AND PLUMBING
10:35:47 COMPANY.
10:35:52 I'M HERE TO VOICE MY SUPPORT WITH SOMEONE WHO IS BORN
10:35:53 IN TAMPA.
10:35:55 I HAVE NOT LIVED IN TAMPA MOST OF MY LIFE BUT BORN
10:35:56 HERE.
10:36:01 PARENTS OF UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND USF TO SEE WHAT ROME
10:36:04 YARD, THE OPPORTUNITIES OF THIS PROJECT OFFERS TO SEE
10:36:09 WHAT THE TEAM THAT RELAYED IT HAS BROUGHT TOGETHER.
10:36:12 MY FIRM, WE TRAVEL ACROSS THE STATE, PARTNERING WITH
10:36:15 LARGER CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FIRMS.
10:36:17 WE TRAVEL ACROSS THE STATE.
10:36:19 PARTICIPATING IN SUCH PROJECTS.
10:36:23 THE ROME YARD TEAM THAT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER IS
10:36:24 UNPRECEDENTED.
10:36:28 YOU CAN GO TO THE AIRPORT AND LOOK WHO IS WORKING OUT
10:36:28 THERE.
10:36:32 GO TO PREVIOUS CITY PROJECTS, COUNTY PROJECTS, OTHER
10:36:33 MUNICIPALITIES.
10:36:37 IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE ACCUMULATED,
10:36:41 PARTICULARLY TAMPA-BASED BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES FOR
10:36:44 THIS PROJECT BASED ON THE LOCATION, THERE IS NO PROJECT
10:36:48 THAT HAS DONE SUCH IN THE RECENT HISTORY AT LEAST.
10:36:51 AND I DOUBT IN ANY HISTORIES AS FAR AS THE BLACK
10:36:53 BUSINESS INVOLVEMENT, PARTICULARLY FOR COMMUNITY THAT
10:36:55 IT IS IN.
10:36:58 THE PARTNERS THAT ARE ASSEMBLED NOT ONLY HAVE A PLAN,
10:37:03 BUT WE HAVE PROVEN HISTORY OF EXECUTING INCLUSION FOR
10:37:07 LOCAL, WOMEN-OWNED AND MINORITY-OWNED BUSINESSES NOT
10:37:10 ONLY IN THIS AREA REGION, BUT ACROSS THE STATE.
10:37:14 SO I'M HERE TO SPEAK OBVIOUSLY IN SUPPORT OF -- IN
10:37:16 SUPPORT OF THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
10:37:19 I'M HERE TO PUT MY NAME AND MY BUSINESS ON THE LINE FOR
10:37:24 THE COMMITMENT OF 40% LOCAL -- LOCAL AND
10:37:26 MINORITY-OWNED.
10:37:30 25% BLACK-OWNED BUSINESS CONTRACT AND COMMITMENT.
10:37:33 I AM THAT CONFIDENT NOTICE PLAN THAT WE HAVE.
10:37:34 THAT CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE THE BEST PLAN.
10:37:37 AND I AM THAT CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE THE PEOPLE AT THE
10:37:40 TABLE, THE RELATED RESOURCES, THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES,
10:37:43 THE HUMAN CAPITAL TO EXECUTE THE PLAN THAT WAS
10:37:45 SUBMITTED AND COMMITTED TO.
10:37:48 I AM A PROUD MEMBER OF THE TEAM.
10:37:50 I COULD GO INTO SPEAKING THE OPPORTUNITY IT PROVIDES
10:37:55 FOR MY BUSINESS, THE SELFISH INTENT BECAUSE NO OTHER
10:37:58 DEVELOPER HAS GIVEN US -- TO DATE, HAS GIVEN US THE
10:37:59 OPPORTUNITY.
10:38:02 USUALLY WE HAVE TO COME IN UNDER A LARGER MAJORITY
10:38:07 COMPANY, WHETHER IT IS A SUB OR COMMAND -- OR OTHER
10:38:09 FIRMS WE PARTNER WITH.
10:38:12 RELATED CAME TO US AND GAVE US A DIRECT OPPORTUNITY AS
10:38:14 A BLACK-OWNED LOCAL BUSINESS TO BE A PRIME GENERAL
10:38:18 CONTRACTOR ON A MULTI, MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.
10:38:21 I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD HAVE DONE THAT IN
10:38:23 THIS REGION OR PROBABLY AROUND THE STATE.
10:38:24 SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
10:38:25 THANK YOU.
10:38:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:38:28 [APPLAUSE]
10:38:37 JOE ROBINSON.
10:38:44 >> JOE ROBINSON, RESIDENT OF WEST TAMPA SINCE 1962.
10:38:45 DURING SEGREGATION.
10:38:49 VICE-CHAIR OF THE WEST TAMPA CAC, VICE-CHAIR OF THE
10:38:53 WEST TAMPA CDC, SECOND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE NAACP,
10:38:57 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHAIR OF THE NAACP.
10:39:01 THE WEST TAMPA CRA-CAC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN INCORN RATED
10:39:07 IN A REVISED REVISION OF THESE TWO AGREEMENTS TODAY.
10:39:10 HISTORY IS BEING MADE, MR. GUDES.
10:39:12 HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN TALKING OF A COMMUNITY BENEFIT
10:39:13 AGREEMENT.
10:39:16 HOW LONG HAVE YOU AND ME FIGHTING FOR IT, MAN.
10:39:17 IT IS AT THE TABLE.
10:39:18 IT IS HERE.
10:39:21 MINORITY CONTRACTS ARE BEING UTILIZED.
10:39:22 IT IS HEAR.
10:39:24 WE HAVE BEEN -- IT IS HERE.
10:39:26 60 YEARS TO GET THIS DEVELOPMENT DRIVEN BY THE
10:39:29 COMMUNITY, SPOKEN BY THE COMMUNITY, THE WEST SIDE OF
10:39:30 THE RIVER IS SPEAKING.
10:39:31 WE WANT THIS.
10:39:31 WE NEED THIS.
10:39:35 IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF YOU VOTE ON IT.
10:39:38 YOU CAN DEBATE IT, BUT IT IS HERE.
10:39:40 ONE OTHER THING, SIDEBAR ACTION.
10:39:43 FIRST OF ALL, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE PERMIT FOR
10:39:45 SPECIAL EVENTS ON MAIN STREET COMING UP.
10:39:46 ITEM 14.
10:39:50 AND WE NEED TO HAVE THIS APPOINTMENT FOR THIS MINORITY
10:39:55 BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT COMPLIANCE OFFICER.
10:39:59 MISS BONNIE EHLER, ITEM 18.
10:40:00 BACK TO ROME YARD.
10:40:03 LISTEN, MAN, I TOOK -- JUST LIKE YOU CARLSON, JUST LIKE
10:40:06 YOU GUDES WITH THE TAMPA BAY TIMES, SAYING I GOT
10:40:10 KICKBACKS WHICH IS NONSENSE!
10:40:18 IT IS CALLED TORTIOUS INTERFERENCE WITH THE CONTRACT.
10:40:20 KEEP MESSING WITH IT, TIMES.
10:40:23 I'M HERE TO SAY THIS, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, WEST
10:40:24 TAMPA IS MOVING FORWARD.
10:40:26 PLEASE DON'T STOP US.
10:40:28 DON'T PUT ROAD BLOCKS IN THE WAY.
10:40:30 WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY.
10:40:33 I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
10:40:35 IT IS FINALLY IN FRONTS OF YOU.
10:40:37 FINALLY FOR YOU TO SEE.
10:40:39 I HAVE GIVEN ALL OF MY LIFE AND TIME ON THIS.
10:40:42 TOOK THE HEAT FROM EVERYBODY INCLUDING NAACP, THE
10:40:44 PLAYER HATESERS AND EVERYBODY.
10:40:46 BUT I'M HERE TODAY TO SAY THAT I AM STANDING UP FOR
10:40:47 WHAT IS RIGHT.
10:40:51 I AM SPEAKING OUT FOR WHAT OUR COMMUNITY, MY COMMUNITY,
10:40:55 WHERE I HAVE BEEN ALL MY LIFE THE SCALIONE HOUSE.
10:40:58 CHARLIE, YOU KNOW HOW IT IS IN WEST TAMPA.
10:41:00 DON'T BE LAUGHING.
10:41:02 >> I AM NOT LAUGHING, I AM ENJOYING.
10:41:05 >> MY LAST 30 SECONDS, I ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT THIS.
10:41:07 CULTURAL ARTS CENTER.
10:41:09 WORK FORCE CENTER.
10:41:10 GIVING THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE WANT.
10:41:13 WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, MAN.
10:41:19 I SPENT A LOT OF MY TIME, FREE, F-R-E-E, FREE,
10:41:21 PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, FREE.
10:41:24 WITH THAT I WILL SAY, Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME.
10:41:26 AND I HAVE A MEETING AT 1:30 AND I WILL BE HERE UNLESS
10:41:32 THEY CANCEL IT AND GO OUT AND SMOKE THIS -- CHARLIE, A CUBAN
10:41:32 CIGAR.
10:41:36 MY DAUGHTER BROUGHT IT BACK FROM NASSAU, BAHAMAS, REAL
10:41:41 CUBAN, ROMEO AND JULIET, NUMBER TWO, BROTHER.
10:41:43 THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
10:41:46 GIVE US A CHANCE AND GIVE US FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION
10:41:50 FOR THE TWO RESOLUTIONS FOR THE AGREEMENT AND COMMUNITY
10:41:51 BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
10:41:56 NEVER BEEN ONE -- ST. PETE AIN'T GOT ONE, MR. GUDES.
10:41:57 MAKE HISTORY.
10:41:58 [APPLAUSE]
10:42:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:42:04 WHO WANTS TO FOLLOW JOE ROBINSON.
10:42:04 [LAUGHTER]
10:42:08 ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE?
10:42:11 IF NOT, GO TO THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS.
10:42:12 WE HAVE A FEW ONLINE.
10:42:13 SEEING NONE.
10:42:17 FIRST SPEAKER IS MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:42:19 >>CLERK: GOOD MORNING, MICHAEL, IF YOU WERE ON THE
10:42:22 LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:42:23 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:42:25 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:42:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
10:42:30 >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
10:42:34 I AM SO HAPPY THAT WE ARE HERE TO THIS PARTICULAR
10:42:34 POINT.
10:42:37 I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TELL YOU HOW WE GOT HERE
10:42:39 AND WHY WE GOT HERE.
10:42:46 FIRST, WITH NO MONEY, THE WEST TAMPA CDC HAS PUT
10:42:50 TOGETHER THAT NOT ONLY INCLUDES FOLKS GETTING BUSINESS
10:42:53 -- TO START THEIR OWN BUSINESSES BUT ALSO WE ARE GOING
10:42:58 TO TURN THIS INTO A $80 MILLION IMPACT IN WEST TAMPA.
10:43:01 JUST FROM THE WEST TAMPA SIDE OF THE TABLE.
10:43:02 WHY DO WE DO THIS?
10:43:06 WE DO THIS BECAUSE IN THE POOR COMMUNITY, SO MANY TIMES
10:43:08 THEY ARE OVERLOOKED.
10:43:14 THEY SEE BUILDINGS COMING UP THAT THEY KNOW WILL BE OUT
10:43:14 OF HERE.
10:43:17 MOTHERS I HAVE SPOKEN TO ARE SO AFRAID.
10:43:19 WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE JOBS.
10:43:24 AND THEY ARE SO AFRAID.
10:43:26 TO THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY.
10:43:30 LET ME TALK OF THE GOOD THING OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
10:43:31 ROME YARD PROJECT.
10:43:37 WEST TAMPA CAC -- GENTRIFICATION.
10:43:39 INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:43:45 INCREASE GENERATIONAL WEALTH BY BUILDING A BLACK WALL
10:43:47 STREET IN AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE
10:43:52 ACTUALLY OWN BUSINESSES AND CREATES JOBS AND TO THE
10:43:56 CITY AND INCREASE SALES TAXES.
10:44:00 120 NEW RESIDENT JOBS WILL BE CREATED.
10:44:04 120 NEW JOBS WILL BE CREATED.
10:44:09 WITH AN IMPACT OF OVER $8 MILLION IN TERMS OF THE
10:44:11 PROJECT THAT WE BRING TO THE TABLE.
10:44:15 WE PLAN TO ADJUST THE LOW-INCOME, THOSE WITH CRIMINAL
10:44:22 RECORDS, THOSE WHO HAVE RISK, SENIORS AND THOSE WITH NO
10:44:24 SUPPLEMENTAL INCOME.
10:44:25 IT IS TIME FOR WEST TAMPA.
10:44:28 SO MANY TIMES WE SEE DEVELOPMENT CONNELL AND WE GET
10:44:29 GENTRIFIED.
10:44:30 THIS TIME.
10:44:33 I WANT TO THANK THE RESIDENTS OF WEST TAMPA.
10:44:37 TO BE ON THE STREETS OF WEST TAMPA, TODAY WE WIN.
10:44:38 YOU WANT A JOB.
10:44:40 AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY YOUR RENT.
10:44:43 WITH THIS BILL RIGHT HERE, THIS TIME WE WIN.
10:44:47 I AM SORRY I AM SO PASSIONATE ABOUT IT LIKE JOE
10:44:48 ROBINSON.
10:44:50 WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR SO LONG.
10:44:52 THIS TIME IS THE TIME FOR WEST TAMPA.
10:44:54 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:44:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:44:58 JEAN STROHMEYER.
10:45:02 >>CLERK: JEAN, IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE UNMUTE YOURSELF
10:45:04 AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:45:05 >> CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME?
10:45:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:45:10 >> BEFORE I START, CAN I ASK A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.
10:45:13 ON THE BEGINNING YOU MOVE ALL THESE ITEMS FROM HERE TO
10:45:13 THERE.
10:45:16 CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO SOME OF US -- I HAVE BEEN LISTENING
10:45:18 TO IT FOR YEARS BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU DECIDE TO MOVE
10:45:22 IT FROM ONE PLACE -- CONSENT AND STAFF --
10:45:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE REASON WE DO THAT IS BECAUSE
10:45:26 CONSENT AGENDA GOES SO QUICKLY.
10:45:29 FOR EXAMPLE, WE MOVE ITEM 10-20.
10:45:31 AND MANY TIMES THERE IS NOT DISCUSSION.
10:45:35 SO SPECIFIC HAD COUNCILMEMBERS OR ANYBODY CAN ASK THAT
10:45:37 ITEMS BE PULLED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION INSTEAD OF A
10:45:38 QUICK VOTE.
10:45:42 SO THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED GET PUT UNDER STAFF
10:45:45 REPORTS SO WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND GO INTO FURTHER
10:45:47 DETAIL BEFORE SAYING YES OR NO.
10:45:47 >> OKAY.
10:45:52 I DID HEAR COUNCILMAN -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON MENTION WHY
10:45:56 CERTAIN THINGS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SUCH A
10:45:59 PUBLIC INTEREST IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TO BEGIN WITH.
10:46:01 I DID LISTEN TO THAT.
10:46:03 I DON'T FEEL THE ANSWER IS SUFFICIENT BECAUSE I HAD AN
10:46:06 ITEM DOWN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND
10:46:09 I SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED THAT IT NOT EVER SHOW UP ON
10:46:11 CONSENTS AGENDA BUT IT DID ANYWAY.
10:46:15 MAYBE WE CAN FIND A WAY TO BRING THAT A LITTLE BIT
10:46:19 MORE, YOU KNOW IN FRONT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT TO
10:46:24 HAVE THINGS -- FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION AND PUBLIC
10:46:28 COMMENT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK UPON BEHALF OF SOME OF
10:46:32 THESE ITEMS THAT SHOW UP ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT
10:46:32 SHOULD BE THERE.
10:46:39 WITH THAT SAID, MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER.
10:46:43 I'M HERE -- THERE ARE A FEW AGENDA ITEMS THAT I AM
10:46:45 GOING TO TALK ABOUT.
10:46:48 PARTICULARLY HERE -- THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
10:46:52 I JUST -- AND JUST SAW IN THE TAMPA TIMES ABOUT THIS.
10:46:55 IT COULD BE JUST ANOTHER SCANDAL OR CORRUPTION WITHIN
10:46:56 OUR CITY.
10:46:59 I LEARNED THAT THE MAYOR'S NEPHEW WORKS WITH THE
10:47:00 DEVELOPER.
10:47:04 FIRST LADY WORKS FOR LOBBYING FIRM AND THE MAYOR SAID
10:47:08 THAT THE NUMBER WITH THE LOBBYIST WOULD NOT POSE ANY
10:47:11 CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN THE RELATIONSHIP, BUT IN
10:47:14 READING THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING.
10:47:19 YOU KNOW, THIS STARTED WITH EX-MAYOR BUCKHORN.
10:47:21 FROM WHAT I READ IN THE PAPER, HE CONVENIENTLY DROPPED
10:47:25 THE PROJECT JUST BEFORE IT WAS PICKED UP BY THE MAYOR.
10:47:32 IS THIS ANOTHER CASTOR-MAYOR BUCKHORN SCANDAL.
10:47:33 TOILET TO TAP.
10:47:35 SAME SCANDAL, DIFFERENT NAME.
10:47:42 THAT THIS PARCEL WAS LONG NEGLECED, AND MY POINT IS WE DON'T
10:47:46 NEED EVERY INCH UNUSED SPACE TRANSFORMED FOR FUTURE
10:47:47 GENERATIONS.
10:47:50 IT SEEMS LIKE THAT IS WHAT IS ALLOWING.
10:47:54 THE CITY SHOULD GROW NATURALLY AND NOT SUSTAINED BY
10:47:56 CORRUPTION, POWER.
10:47:58 NOBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE PEOPLE'S HOMES.
10:48:01 OUR CITY OF TAMPA AND DESTROY ITS VERY CHARACTER.
10:48:07 BUT SOME OF YOU CAN'T SEE AS BETTER YET REFUSE TO SEE
10:48:08 IT.
10:48:11 YOU DON'T VOTE ON THIS AND BE CORRUPT CONTRACTS AND
10:48:16 SUCH WILL BE KNOWN FOREVER AS THE ONES THAT DESTROYED.
10:48:19 LUKE 8:17 -- SPEAKING OF THE BIBLE, THERE IS NOTHING IN
10:48:23 SECRET THAT SHALL NOT BE MADE MANIFEST.
10:48:26 NEITHER ANYTHING THAT SHOULD NOT BE KNOWN AND BECOME
10:48:26 ABROAD.
10:48:28 ALL WILL BE CLEAR TO THEM.
10:48:31 THE NIGHT THICKENS OVER ISRAEL ON ACCOUNT OF ITS
10:48:32 UNBELIEF.
10:48:36 THE DISCIPLE ALSO ADVANCE EVEN INTO FURTHER LIGHT.
10:48:41 UNTIL THERE IS NOTHING LEFT IN PLAN OF GOD WHICH IS
10:48:42 OBSCURE OR HIDDEN.
10:48:45 NOTHING WILL BE HIDDEN THAT IS SECRET, YOU GUYS.
10:48:46 IT IS COMING OUT.
10:48:49 MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR DECISIONS
10:48:52 AND SEARCH YOUR SOULS WHAT JESUS WOULD DO.
10:48:54 THERE IS MORE, BUT HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:48:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:49:01 NEXT ALBERT MYLO.
10:49:10 >>CLERK: PETER VAN WARNER AND SIRIO LAFAR DID REGISTER
10:49:12 AND DID NOT LOG ON TO SPEAK.
10:49:16 WE WILL BE MOVING ON TO RUSS WEBB.
10:49:18 IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE
10:49:20 THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:49:21 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:49:22 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:49:24 THANK VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY.
10:49:28 RUSS.
10:49:31 THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE BAY AREA APARTMENT THAT
10:49:33 REPRESENT THE APARTMENT INDUSTRY OF TAMPA BAY.
10:49:37 I AM FILLING IN FOR OUR GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS WHO HAD A
10:49:40 CHANCE TO SPEAK TO YOU OF NOTICE OF RENTS INCREASE THAT
10:49:42 IS UP FOR FIRST READING TODAY.
10:49:45 THIS ORDINANCE REQUIRES A 60-DAY NOTICE FOR RENT
10:49:49 INCREASES AND A 30-DAY NOTICE TO TERMINATE
10:49:52 MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASES FROM THE RESIDENT AND THE
10:49:52 LORDLORD.
10:49:55 I WANT TO NOTE THAT THE ORDINANCE MAY CONFLICT WITH
10:49:59 STATE LAW THAT MAY EXCEED LOCAL JURISDICTION'S
10:50:01 AUTHORITY AND WE ARE WORKING WITH ATTORNEYS TO EXAMINE
10:50:01 THAT.
10:50:05 ONCE THAT IS DONE, WE WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE FIND
10:50:06 OUTS.
10:50:09 WE ARE GLAD TO SEE 60 DAYS INSTEAD OF THE SIX MONTHS.
10:50:12 A MUCH MORE REALISTIC PERIOD TO CONSIDER.
10:50:15 THE FACT IS BETWEEN THE FLUCTUATIONS IN COSTS, THE
10:50:18 OVERALL PACE OF INFLATION AND ITS CHANGING MARKET
10:50:22 CONDITIONS, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A LANDLORD TO SET A
10:50:24 REALISTIC PRICE IN SIX MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
10:50:28 FURTHER REQUIRE TO TELL US 60 DAYS FROM THE END OF
10:50:31 THEIR LEASE IF THEY STAY IN THEIR UNIT OR LEASE IT.
10:50:37 THE BEST-CASE SCENARIO 60 DAYS' NOTICE.
10:50:43 AND 60-DAY NOTICE IS MUCH MORE REALISTIC, BUT IT IS
10:50:45 UNNECESSARY BECAUSE OF REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE STATE
10:50:48 LAW, MOST RESIDENTS RECEIVE THEIR LEASE RENEWAL OFFERS
10:50:52 THAT INCLUDE A PORTION OF THE APPLICABLE RENT INCREASES
10:50:56 BETWEEN 45 TO 75 DAYS OF THE LEASE RETURN.
10:50:58 PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE NOTICE THAT THIS IS GETTING
10:50:59 CALLED FOR OR CLOSE TO IF.
10:51:05 REGARDING THE NOTICE CHANGE THE MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASE.
10:51:08 IT MAY HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
10:51:13 A RESIDENT OR LANDLORD CAN TERMINATE 15 DAYS NOTICE.
10:51:17 IN PRACTICE, THE RESIDENT HAS TWO WEEKS AT THE END OF
10:51:19 THE MONTH TO END THEIR LEASE BY THE END OF THE MONTH.
10:51:23 RESIDENTS THAT WANT MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASES REQUIRE
10:51:26 FLEXIBILITY BUT REQUIRING 30-DAY NOTICE MAKES IT
10:51:29 IMPOSSIBLE OF LEASE TERMINATION IN THE SAME MONTHS.
10:51:32 RESIDENTS WILL BE ON THE HOOK FOR AN ADDITIONAL MONTH'S
10:51:34 RENT BECAUSE OF THIS ORDINANCE.
10:51:39 WE WANT TO YOU CONSIDER A 21-DAY PERIOD TO GIVE A WEEK
10:51:42 ON THE RENTAL PERIOD OF THE MONTH-TO-MONTH.
10:51:45 WE UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT OF WHICH THIS ORDINANCE IS
10:51:47 BEING PROPOSED AND MANY TALK OF THE MARKETED,
10:51:50 AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS AND SUPPLY ISSUES.
10:51:52 I THINK EVERYBODY REQUEST AGREED THAT WE HAVE BEEN
10:51:56 THROUGH AN UNPRECEDENTED PERIOD.
10:51:58 WITH THAT SAID, CHANGING THE LAW AND RESPONSE TO
10:52:01 TEMPORARY CONDITIONS CHANGING IT FOR WHAT IS COMMON AND
10:52:03 KNOWN PRACTICE ACROSS THE STATE COULD CREATE A
10:52:06 PATCHWORK OF RULES THAT MAKE IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR
10:52:10 RESIDENTS TO KNOW THEIR RIGHTS AND TO MANAGE RENTAL
10:52:11 HOMES TO OPERATE.
10:52:13 THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK.
10:52:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:52:18 DID JULIUS DAVIS SPEAK IN PERSON?
10:52:19 >> YES.
10:52:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL TAKE HIM OFF THE LIST
10:52:21 THERE.
10:52:23 THAT CONCLUDES THE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
10:52:25 ALL RIGHT, ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR
10:52:28 RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
10:52:31 IF NOT, WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 4.
10:52:35 YES, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:52:39 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I CAN SAY SOMETHING IN LIEU OF ALL
10:52:40 THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE HEARD.
10:52:43 WE HAD A DISCUSSION A FEW WEEKS AGO ON THIS HOUSING
10:52:49 CRISIS.
10:52:53 AND A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.
10:52:57 A PIECE OF FEEDBACK IS TO PROPOSE A SIX-MONTH NOTICE
10:52:58 PERIOD.
10:52:59 I THINK I MADE THE MOTION.
10:53:01 WE APPROVED HAVING THIS COME BEFORE US TODAY.
10:53:05 HOWEVER, LEGAL IN A FEW MINUTES WILL TELL US THAT BY
10:53:08 STATE LAW, WE CAN'T HAVE A SIX-MONTH NOTICE PERIOD.
10:53:12 SO I WANT THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC KNOW WE DID ATTEMPT
10:53:16 NOT JUST A 90-DAY NOTICE PERIOD BUT A SIX-MONTH NOTICE
10:53:17 PERIOD.
10:53:20 THE MOST WE CAN DO IS 60 DAYS AND WE HEARD FROM THE
10:53:21 APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
10:53:25 THEY MAY EVEN CHALLENGE THE MONTH-TO-MONTH PART OF IT.
10:53:29 BUT DEPENDING ON WHAT LEGAL SAYS, WE SHOULD STEP
10:53:30 FORWARD ANYWAY.
10:53:33 JUST FOR THE FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC WHO SPOKEN ABOUT THE
10:53:36 -- THE RENTAL CRISIS AND HOUSING CRISIS.
10:53:39 WE HAVE A WORKSHOP SET FOR MAY 26 WHERE WE ARE GOING TO
10:53:43 ASK PUBLIC TO COME IN WITH IDEAS.
10:53:47 WE HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING OUR OWN IDEAS.
10:53:49 AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC THAT HAVE SPECIALIZED
10:53:52 EXPERTISE IN THIS.
10:53:53 AND IDEAS THAT ARE PRESENTED.
10:53:57 MOST OF THE -- MOST OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT IS
10:53:59 AROUND RENT CONTROL, WHICH IS VERY SEVERELY RESTRICTED
10:54:04 BY STATE LAW AND HAVEN'T BEEN DONE IN 20 OR 30 YEARS.
10:54:08 I PERSONALLY THINK IT WILL BE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON
10:54:10 RENTERS BECAUSE THE LANDLORDS WILL RAISE RATE IN
10:54:13 ADVANCE OF THE ONE-YEAR MAXIMUM THAT WILL BE ALLOWED.
10:54:16 WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS TO COME WITH OTHER IDEAS.
10:54:17 WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING.
10:54:20 AND WE KNOW THE PUBLIC HAVE A LOT OF IDEA AND WE HOPE
10:54:23 ON MAY 26, THAT FOLKS CAN COME WITH MORE IDEAS THAT WE
10:54:24 CAN LISTEN TO.
10:54:27 AND THE OVERRIDING ISSUE AS WAS MENTIONED A SHORTAGE OF
10:54:28 AFFORDABLE HOMES.
10:54:31 WE HAVE A $50,000 UNIT SHORTAGE WE ARE TRYING AS
10:54:33 QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO FILL.
10:54:36 AND WE HAVE GOT A SHORTAGE OF UNITS IN GENERAL.
10:54:39 SO WE ARE WORKING ON ALL THE DIFFERENT LEVELS TO TRY TO
10:54:42 ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
10:54:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:54:44 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:54:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, I SPOKE WITH THE FOLKS IN
10:54:51 MIAMI -- THE LEGAL TEAM IN MIAMI WORKING ON THE
10:54:53 EMERGENCY CRISIS FOR HOUSING OPINION.
10:54:56 AND A TEAM WITH OTHER COALITIONS THAT ARE WORKING TO
10:54:57 LOOK AT THE STUDY.
10:55:00 I KNOW I ASKED OUR -- OUR FOLKS HERE WHEN THEY CAME
10:55:04 BACK ON THAT WORKSHOP TO LOOK AT A STUDY AS WELL AND
10:55:08 HOPEFULLY GET ANSWERS ABOUT THAT STUDY, MR. CARLSON.
10:55:10 BUT MIAMI IS WORKING ON A STUDY RIGHT NOW.
10:55:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:55:19 YES, MA'AM.
10:55:23 >>REBECCA JOHNS: GOOD MORNING, REBECCA JOHNS, ASSISTANT CITY
10:55:23 ATTORNEY.
10:55:27 I'M HERE WITH THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, WHICH YOU REQUESTED
10:55:29 AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON STATED.
10:55:32 HE REQUESTED A SIX-MONTH NOTICE FOR A LANDLORD TO
10:55:36 PROVIDE BEFORE THEY RAISED THE RENT.
10:55:41 FLORIDA STATUTES PROVIDES IF A LEASE REQUIRES ADVANCE
10:55:44 NOTICE OF NONRENEWAL OF A LEASE, THAT NOTICE PERIOD IS
10:55:47 LIMITED TO 60 DAYS.
10:55:51 SO ADVISING OF A RENTAL INCREASE IS THE EQUIVALENT OF A
10:55:54 NONRENEWAL OR RENEWAL TERMS.
10:55:58 SO, THEREFORE, THAT IS WHY I LIMITED IT TO THE 60-DAY
10:55:59 PERIOD.
10:56:03 THIS ORDINANCE WOULD ALSO REQUIRE THAT A MONTH-TO-MONTH
10:56:08 LEASE COULD NOT BE TERMINATED UNLESS YOU HAVE 30 DAYS'
10:56:09 NOTICE.
10:56:10 RIGHT NOW IT IS 15 DAYS.
10:56:13 I DID RAISE THAT TO ITS 30 DAYS IN ORDER TO GIVE THE
10:56:14 MAXIMUM TIME.
10:56:17 THAT IS UP TO YOU WHETHER YOU WANT TO AS THE SPEAKERS
10:56:21 HAVE SPOKE, TO REDUCE THAT TO 21 DAYS.
10:56:26 THAT WAS JUST ME TRYING TO TAKE IT TO THE MAX.
10:56:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:56:31 >>BILL CARLSON: THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION SAID THEY
10:56:34 ARE LOOKING INTO THE LEGALITIES OF THE 30-DAY NOTICE
10:56:39 FOR MONTH TO MONTH OPINION DO YOU FEEL STRONGLY IT WILL
10:56:42 HOLD.
10:56:47 >>REBECCA JOHNS: AN ATTORNEY GENERAL POSITION THAT A
10:56:50 NOTICE PERIOD PROVIDED BY THE STATE PROVIDED IT IS NOT
10:56:52 NO CONFLICT WITH THE OTHER PORTIONS OF THE STATE
10:56:53 STATUTE.
10:56:57 >>BILL CARLSON: I AM HAPPY TO MOVE THE ORDINANCE.
10:56:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:57:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS GOING TO SECOND IT.
10:57:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY DISCUSSION?
10:57:04 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:57:07 >>LUIS VIERA: LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS.
10:57:10 I THANK COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD.
10:57:11 I REMEMBER THE MEETING.
10:57:15 A HEATED MEETING THINGS WE COULD DO OR CAN'T DO AND
10:57:17 COUNCILMAN CARLSON CAME UP WITH THINGS REMEMBER ABLE TO
10:57:20 DO AND MOVE FORWARD.
10:57:23 I KNOW THAT ALL SEVEN OF US ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE WE
10:57:26 ARE DEALING WITH SUCH A LARGE CRISIS AND ISSUES LIKE
10:57:28 THIS, WE ARE LIMITED, RIGHT.
10:57:32 BUT GOOD FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD ON THESE THINGS WE CAN
10:57:38 DO BIT BY BIT BY BIT BY BIT TO ADDRESS THIS CRISIS AND
10:57:41 DO WHAT WE CAN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:57:42 THANK THE COUNCILMAN FOR THIS.
10:57:44 AND ALL THE COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:57:48 AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AND A GOOD ENDEAVOR.
10:57:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:57:51 I AM A RENTER.
10:57:53 MY WIFE IS A TEACHER.
10:57:55 WE SPLIT THE RENT AND WE ARE UP FOR RENEWAL IN JUNE,
10:57:58 WHICH IS 60 DAYS BEFORE OUR LEASE ENDS.
10:58:00 I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY RENT IS GOING TO GO UP TO.
10:58:04 I KNOW WHAT WE PAY NOW, IT COULD GO UP $500 A MONTH,
10:58:05 $400 A MONTH.
10:58:08 I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS -- I AM NOT GOING TO NAME THEM.
10:58:12 THEY RENT AND ONE JUST RENEWED, SOMEONE CLOSE TO ME.
10:58:14 I AM NOT GOING TO NAME THEM.
10:58:16 SHE WAS TERRIFIED.
10:58:20 HER AND HER BOYFRIEND AND HE MANAGES A LIQUOR STORE AND
10:58:24 SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT SHE WOULD GET HIT AND LUCKILY JUST
10:58:25 UNDER 200.
10:58:26 IT WAS $200.
10:58:30 WHEN GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND $6 FOR A GALLON OF
10:58:31 MILK AND YOU GO TO GET ANYTHING.
10:58:34 GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND SEE.
10:58:37 I AM THINKING UNBELIEVABLE BECAUSE WAGES AREN'T GOING
10:58:38 UP.
10:58:40 I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A RENTER.
10:58:43 I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
10:58:46 I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT MORE OPTIONS, BECAUSE WE
10:58:48 HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS CITY THAT ARE HURTING AND
10:58:50 I KNOW WE HAD THAT WORKSHOP.
10:58:52 COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT IT.
10:58:55 WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS AND PUT EVERYTHING ON
10:58:58 THE TABLE TO HELP THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
10:59:01 SO COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU WISH TO READ IT, SIR?
10:59:03 >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED TO READ THE WHOLE THING.
10:59:09 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER E 2022-8 CHAPTER 12,
10:59:12 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
10:59:17 CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE
10:59:23 CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 12-146, 147
10:59:29 INCREASING NOTIFICATION PERIOD FOREMONTH-TO-MONTH AND
10:59:33 30 DAYS AND LANDLORDS 60 DAYS PRIOR WRITTEN OF A RENT
10:59:36 INCREASE, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND
10:59:42 OF VIOLATIONS AMENDING 19.4A AND 23 MUCH 3D.
10:59:45 REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT, PROVIDING
10:59:47 SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:59:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
10:59:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.
10:59:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:59:54 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:59:55 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:59:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:59:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:59:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:00:03 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING
11:00:04 ABSENT A VOTES.
11:00:09 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION MAY 19, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
11:00:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY 67 MUCH.
11:00:14 COUNCILMAN.
11:00:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE ITEMS 5 THROUGH 10.
11:00:20 >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 5-10.
11:00:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND
11:00:24 IS SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:00:25 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:00:27 OPPOSED?
11:00:29 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:00:30 11-14.
11:00:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE.
11:00:32 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
11:00:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:00:36 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A STATEMENT REAL FAST.
11:00:40 I WANT TO SAY KUDOS TO THE PUBLIC ART PEOPLE AND
11:00:46 WHOEVER ELSE WAS INVOLVED WITH ITEM NUMBER 11.
11:00:50 IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE ARTIST'S WORK, SHE WON THE
11:00:54 GASPARILLA MUSIC FESTIVAL AWARD AND GOOGLE ARE YOU
11:00:55 HUNGRY, TAMPA.
11:00:57 AND HER WORK IS PHENOMENAL.
11:01:00 I THINK SHE WILL BE AN INTERNATIONAL CELEBRITY IN THE
11:01:01 NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
11:01:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WENT DOWN TO THE WATER STREET
11:01:04 GROCERY STORE.
11:01:09 AND IT WAS JUST TRULY AMAZING THE THINGS SHE HAS DONE.
11:01:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. GUDES.
11:01:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I ASKED THE JUNETEENTH -- AND I
11:01:18 DID SPEAK TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:01:19 THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.
11:01:23 AWAITING FOR UNION CONTRACTS TO SEE IF THEY CAN MAKE
11:01:28 THIS COME TO FRUITION FOR JUNETEENTH AS A CITY HOLIDAY.
11:01:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:01:33 ECHOING WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.
11:01:41 I SAW THE RENDERINGS.
11:01:45 GWENDOLYN MILLER, OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE.
11:01:50 FIRST BLACK WOMAN ELECTED CITYWIDE AND SHE SERVED HERE
11:01:51 FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
11:01:55 WE MOVED THAT, CORRECT?
11:01:56 SO WE ARE GOOD THERE.
11:01:58 ITEMS PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE.
11:02:00 WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:02:01 15-17.
11:02:10 >>LYNN HURTAK: LOOKS LIKE 17 HAS A STAFF REPORT.
11:02:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU WANT
11:02:14 TO MAKE A COMMENT ON 15.
11:02:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AFTER EVERYTHING IS PASSED.
11:02:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SPEARMAN TRANSMITSED A STAFF
11:02:21 REPORT FOR ITEM 17.
11:02:27 WAS THERE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO THAT?
11:02:31 IT MAY JUST BE FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES BECAUSE OF
11:02:33 AMOUNT, $2.3 MILLION.
11:02:36 >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 15-17.
11:02:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
11:02:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:02:41 COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU WANTED TO TALK.
11:02:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
11:02:50 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK DENNIS ROGIRO, DEE DUNCAN AND DR.
11:02:53 BEN NET ON ITEM NUMBER 15 OPINION IF WE LOOK VERY
11:02:59 CLOSELY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, IT SAYS, A DECREASE OF
11:03:04 ALMOST $2.5 MILLION.
11:03:08 I DON'T THINK WE GET TO BRAG THAT OFTEN ABOUT THAT.
11:03:11 WELL-DONE TO OUR CITY STAFF FOR SAVING THE CITIZENS OF
11:03:13 TAMPA $2.5 MILLION.
11:03:14 THANK YOU.
11:03:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:03:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:03:21 18-19 AND 20.
11:03:25 AND HOLDING 22 AND 21.
11:03:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:03:30 20 AND 21 WILL BE AT 1:30 AS WE DISCUSSED.
11:03:31 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:03:38 YOU ARE THE CHAIR FOR 23-29 AND 29 IS A SUBSTITUTE
11:03:40 RESOLUTION.
11:03:45 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE 22-29 INCLUDING SUBSTITUTE.
11:03:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:03:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:03:49 AYE.
11:03:50 ANY OPPOSED?
11:03:50 ALL RIGHT.
11:03:52 WHO WOULD LIKE TO --
11:03:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 30-31 ALREADY MR.
11:04:02 CHAIRMAN, ITEM 30 FOR QUESTION CALLED HEARING JUNE 2,
11:04:03 2022.
11:04:09 AND 31 TO MAY 5 IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON THE THIRD
11:04:17 FLOOR THE 19TH OF MAY -- OR -- OR MAY 19.
11:04:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
11:04:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MR. SHELBY.
11:04:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ON THE ADDENDUM AS
11:04:27 ITEM 31 AND HAS SUBSTITUTES.
11:04:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL RIGHT.
11:04:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
11:04:34 AND SECOND FROM -- WHO WAS THE SECOND?
11:04:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DID.
11:04:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:04:38 OPPOSED?
11:04:41 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 9:30.
11:04:42 >> SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:04:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE 9:30 A.M. AND THE 10:30.
11:04:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION.
11:04:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:04:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:04:51 AYE.
11:04:53 ANY OPPOSED?
11:04:56 OKAY, WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 32.
11:04:58 LET ME PULL UP MY SPEAKER LIST HERE.
11:04:59 ITEM 32.
11:05:02 I SEE MISS MALONE ON THE LINE.
11:05:06 HAVE YOU BEEN -- HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?
11:05:08 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE MRSHING
11:05:10 FOR PLAN AMENDMENTS.
11:05:12 I AM NOT SURE --
11:05:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SORRY, GO AHEAD.
11:05:16 >>JENNIFER MALONE: NO PROBLEM AT ALL.
11:05:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
11:05:26 >>JENNIFER MALONE: TA/CPA 21-25, PORTION OF THE TAMPA
11:05:31 APARTMENTS AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 TO REGIONAL MIXED
11:05:33 USE-100.
11:05:35 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:05:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
11:05:39 IF NOT.
11:05:43 IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS ITEM.
11:05:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALEX TYLER AND GRAHAM.
11:05:47 IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK.
11:05:52 I SEE -- OKAY, SOMEBODY FROM THE TYLER HUDSON'S OFFICE.
11:05:55 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
11:06:04 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:06:05 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
11:06:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.
11:06:11 >> GOOD MORNING, ALEX MUELLER.
11:06:17 WE ARE HERE AS JENNIFER SAID TA/CPA 21-25.
11:06:19 RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND WAS
11:06:22 PASSED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FIRST READING.
11:06:24 AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:06:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? NO?
11:06:29 SEEING NONE.
11:06:30 HEARING NONE.
11:06:33 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC PUSHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 32.
11:06:35 I SEE NONE.
11:06:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE.
11:06:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
11:06:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:06:40 OPPOSED.
11:06:41 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, READ 32.
11:06:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 32, FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 21-25,
11:06:50 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:06:53 ADOPTION, ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA
11:06:59 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT AND FUTURE
11:07:10 LAND USE MAP FOR 1502 NUCCIO PARKWAY 920 GOMILLON
11:07:15 COURT AND NUCCIO PARKWAY FROM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 TO
11:07:17 REGIONAL MIXED USE-100.
11:07:21 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL A ORDINANCES.
11:07:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
11:07:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:07:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:07:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:07:26 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:07:28 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:07:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:07:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:07:36 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
11:07:38 ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:07:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH ITEM NUMBER
11:07:42 33.
11:07:44 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
11:07:46 COMMISSION.
11:07:51 201 TO 203 EAST CLUSTER AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL-10 TO
11:07:51 RESIDENTIAL-20.
11:07:54 YOU APPROVED IT MARCH 24, AND I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER
11:07:55 ANY QUESTIONS.
11:07:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS
11:07:57 MALONE?
11:08:00 ALL RIGHT, A REPRESENTATIVE FOR 33.
11:08:01 ANYTHING?
11:08:04 >> I DON'T BELIEVE THE REPRESENTATIVE IS ON THE LINE
11:08:05 TODAY, SIR.
11:08:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY REGISTERED FOR 33.
11:08:09 NOBODY ON MY LIST.
11:08:11 ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
11:08:13 NUMBER 33.
11:08:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE.
11:08:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
11:08:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU A LIKE
11:08:20 TO READ 33.
11:08:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:08:23 ITEM NUMBER 33.
11:08:28 FILE NUMBER TA-CPA 21-28, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
11:08:33 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE
11:08:37 MANAGE 2040, TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE
11:08:40 ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED
11:08:48 201 AND 203 EAST CLUSTER AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL-10,
11:08:53 R-10, TO RESIDENTIAL-20, R-20, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
11:08:56 ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
11:09:00 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:09:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:09:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:09:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:09:06 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:09:08 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:09:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:09:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:09:13 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
11:09:14 ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:09:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:09:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 34, MISS
11:09:22 MALONE.
11:09:24 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR PLANNING
11:09:33 COMMISSION, FILE NUMBER TA-CPA 21-30.
11:09:33 FROM.
11:09:37 ALEX SCHALER -- ALEX AND TYLER HUDSON BUT AVAILABLE FOR
11:09:38 ANY QUESTIONS.
11:09:39 THANK YOU.
11:09:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS.
11:09:41 NO QUESTIONS?
11:09:43 YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD, ALEX.
11:09:48 >> ALEX SCHALER HERE REPRESENTING THE FILE NUMBER
11:09:51 TA-CPA 21-30.
11:09:53 APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND APPROVED AT FIRST
11:09:56 READING AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU
11:09:56 HAVE ANY.
11:09:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
11:10:00 SEEING OR HEARING NONE.
11:10:02 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO PEAK.
11:10:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:10:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:10:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:10:08 OPPOSED.
11:10:10 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU MIND READING 34.
11:10:15 >>LYNN HURTAK: ABSOLUTELY.
11:10:16 FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 21-30.
11:10:19 ORDER FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:10:24 AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
11:10:27 FUTURE LAND USE AMOUNT AND FUTURE LAND USE AS A MATTER
11:10:33 OF FACT.
11:10:38 >> TO PROPERTY 2015 TO 2017 MAPLE AVENUE AND 2020 OAK
11:10:39 AVENUE.
11:10:43 TRANSACTION USE 24, TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
11:10:47 PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:10:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FOR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
11:10:51 SECOND.
11:10:53 ROLL CALL.
11:10:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:10:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:10:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:10:58 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:10:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:11:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:11:03 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
11:11:04 ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:11:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS
11:11:09 35-40.
11:11:12 IF YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK ON 35-40.
11:11:14 PLEASE STAND IF YOU ARE HERE AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN
11:11:19 IF YOU WERE SPEAKING 35-40.
11:11:26 [SWEARING IN]
11:11:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 35, ZAIN
11:11:30 HUSSEIN.
11:11:32 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ZAIN HUSSEIN,
11:11:34 LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:11:39 CASE REZ-21-115 BEING HEARD FOR SECOND READING AND
11:11:44 ADOPTION AT 1503 NORTH NEBRASKA.
11:11:59 1218, 1302, 1304, 1306, 1308, 1310, 1312, AND 1314 EAS
11:12:08 KAY STREET AND 801, 03, 05, 07, 09 AND 11 EAST OAK
11:12:09 AVENUE.
11:12:12 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
11:12:16 ATTACHED AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
11:12:19 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
11:12:21 TWO DAYS AGO.
11:12:22 HERE WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
11:12:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ZAIN
11:12:26 HUSSEIN.
11:12:27 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:12:30 DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE FOR 35?
11:12:31 YES, SIR.
11:12:33 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:12:37 MARK BENTLEY, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET 33602.
11:12:39 YOU REPRESENT THE APPLICANT AND HERE TO ANSWER ANY
11:12:40 QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A.
11:12:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BENTLEY?
11:12:44 NO QUESTIONS?
11:12:44 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:12:47 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT PUSHES TO WEAK ON ITEM
11:12:49 NUMBER 35?
11:12:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:12:53 >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
11:12:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:12:59 OPPOSEEYE NUMBER 35, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:13:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 21-115, ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
11:13:08 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1502 NORTH
11:13:19 NEBRASKA AVENUE, 1218, 1302, 1304, 1306, 1308, 1310,
11:13:26 1312, AND 1314 EAST KAY STREET AND 801, 803, 805, 807,
11:13:32 809, AND 811, EAST 3RD AVENUE.
11:13:36 TO PD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE ATTACHED AND PROVIDING
11:13:38 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:13:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:13:42 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:13:43 ROLL CALL.
11:13:44 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:13:45 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:13:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:13:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:13:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:13:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:13:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:13:56 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:13:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO BEATLES TRIVIA QUESTION.
11:14:00 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
11:14:02 I ABSTAINED FROM THIS LAST TIME.
11:14:07 AND I WOULD LIKE TO PLEASE MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
11:14:10 FILE MY --
11:14:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
11:14:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FOR COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO
11:14:20 FILE HIS FORM AND SECOND FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:14:24 >>BILL CARLSON: THE COMPANY BY WHOM I AM RETAINED HAVE
11:14:27 BUSINESS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ON MATTER NOT RELATED TO
11:14:29 THIS APPLICATION.
11:14:31 ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:14:32 OPPOSED?
11:14:35 ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 36.
11:14:38 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH, ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND
11:14:39 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:14:46 36, CASE SU 2-21-0 3, BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READ
11:14:49 ACHBLINGD ADOPTION, SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 APPROVING A
11:14:54 SCHOOL AND RESIDENTIAL-60 ZONING DISTRICT LOCATION
11:14:57 4210 WEST BAY VILLA AVENUE.
11:14:59 THE SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TUESDAY TO THE CLERK'S
11:15:00 OFFICE.
11:15:02 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:15:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HUISSEIN.
11:15:07 HEARING NONE.
11:15:10 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR 36?
11:15:14 >> GOOD MORNING, JULIA MANDEL, 401 EAST JACKSON
11:15:14 STREET.
11:15:17 I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE SCHOOL BOARD OF HILLSBOROUGH
11:15:17 COUNTY.
11:15:19 I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT AND WE LOOK
11:15:22 FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO EDUCATE OUR STUDENTS.
11:15:23 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:15:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:15:25 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
11:15:29 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 36?
11:15:33 MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:15:36 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
11:15:37 GUDES.
11:15:39 COUNCILMAN CARLSON STEPPED OUT.
11:15:43 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, READ ITEM NUMBER 36.
11:15:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER SU2-21-03.
11:15:51 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, SPECIAL USE PERMIT
11:15:56 SU-2 APPROVING A SCHOOL AND RS-60 IN RESIDENTIAL
11:15:58 SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY
11:16:04 OF 4210 WEST BAY VILLA AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:16:06 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:16:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:16:10 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:16:12 ROLL CALL.
11:16:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DIDN'T.
11:16:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:16:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:16:19 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:16:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, AND.
11:16:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:16:29 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH MR. CARLSON.
11:16:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JULIA MANDEL, FORMER CITY
11:16:33 ATTORNEY.
11:16:34 WELCOME BACK TO CITY HALL.
11:16:37 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 37,
11:16:40 CASE AB 2-22-05.
11:16:43 THIS IS BEING PRESENT TODAY ARE SECOND READING AND
11:16:43 ADOPTION.
11:16:47 FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION
11:16:51 ON PREMISE AND PACKAGE SALES, OFF-PRECHL MISS
11:16:56 CONSUMPTION FOR BEAR, WINE AND LIQUOR ADDRESS 250 EAST
11:16:57 FLORIBRASKA AVENUE.
11:17:00 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
11:17:00 ON TUESDAY.
11:17:02 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:17:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ZAIN
11:17:05 HUSSEIN.
11:17:06 HEARING NONE.
11:17:07 WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ONLINE.
11:17:10 PLEASE GO AHEAD.
11:17:15 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:17:17 >> SORRY.
11:17:17 DOUBLE MUTE.
11:17:21 MEGAN SMITH WITH HUDSON.
11:17:24 ON BEHALF THE APPLICANT 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE, WE
11:17:26 APPRECIATE STAFF'S HELP WITH ALL OF THIS AND ARE HERE
11:17:27 FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:17:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
11:17:34 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON
11:17:35 ITEM 37.
11:17:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:17:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:17:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:17:40 AYE.
11:17:42 OPPOSED.
11:17:47 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, READ ITEM 37.
11:17:50 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AB 2-22-05
11:17:53 ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION APPROVING A
11:17:57 SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES,
11:18:01 SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES
11:18:05 OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION MAKING LAWFUL THE SALES OF
11:18:09 BEVERAGES REGARDING OF ALCOHOLIC CONSENT BEER WINE AND
11:18:13 LIQUOR ON CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED
11:18:16 520 EAST FLORIBRASKA AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE
11:18:21 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AS JIBED THIS SECTION 3,
11:18:25 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:18:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON
11:18:29 AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:18:30 ROLL CALL.
11:18:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:18:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:18:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:18:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:18:34 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:18:35 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:18:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:18:40 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:18:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 38.
11:18:45 MR. HUSSE IN.
11:18:46 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN.
11:18:57 AGENDA ITEM 38, CASE AB 2-08, ALCOHOL SALES LARGE VENUE
11:19:02 ON-PREMISE AND OFF-PREMISES.
11:19:07 BEER, WINE AT 203 NORTH MERIDIAN AVENUE.
11:19:10 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TUESDAY TO THE CITY CLERK'S
11:19:10 OFFICE.
11:19:12 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:19:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
11:19:15 NOPE?
11:19:19 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM 38.
11:19:23 >> GOOD MORNING, COLIN RICE, EAST 101 BOULEVARD HERE
11:19:24 FOR THE APPLICANT.
11:19:26 HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:19:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:19:28 NO?
11:19:32 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
11:19:32 38?
11:19:33 ITEM NUMBER 38?
11:19:36 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:19:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
11:19:39 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
11:19:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:19:44 OPPOSED IN COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:19:44 38.
11:19:48 >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE ON ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READ AND
11:19:51 ADOPTION SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
11:19:56 SALES, LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISES AND PACKAGE
11:20:01 SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE
11:20:06 OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE
11:20:10 AND LIQUOR TO THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OF TRACT OF LAND
11:20:13 203 NORTH MERIDIAN AVENUE TAMPA, FLORIDA.
11:20:18 AND ALL ORDINANCES OF REPEALING AB 19-34 PROVIDING AN
11:20:19 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:20:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:20:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND
11:20:24 SECOND BY MIRANDA.
11:20:25 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:20:26 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:20:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:20:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
11:20:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:20:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:20:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:20:39 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO VOTING NO.
11:20:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 39.
11:20:43 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT -- THEY WEREN'T HERE THE LAST
11:20:44 TIME.
11:20:44 >> I'M HERE.
11:20:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE YOU COME UP, ITEM NUMBER
11:20:50 39, MR. ZAIN HUSSEIN.
11:20:51 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:20:53 ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:20:57 AGENDA ITEM 39, CASE AB 2 --
11:20:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST A MOMENT.
11:20:59 MR. SHELBY.
11:21:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:21:06 ITEM NUMBER 39 WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA PURSUANT TO
11:21:09 COUNCIL RULES PROCEDURES 6 H BECAUSE IT RESULTED
11:21:12 PREVIOUSLY IN A TIE VOTE OF 3-3.
11:21:14 AS OUTLINED ON YOUR AGENDA.
11:21:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. HUSSEIN GO
11:21:19 AHEAD.
11:21:20 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ZAIN HUSSEIN.
11:21:25 AGENDA ITEM 39, CASE AB 2-20-11.
11:21:29 A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE 2 FOR SMALL VENUE BEER,
11:21:33 WINE AND LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISE AND PACKAGE
11:21:37 SALES, OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION AT 703 NORTH WILLOW
11:21:40 AVENUE.
11:21:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN.
11:21:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.
11:21:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THIS MATTER.
11:21:50 THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER
11:21:58 23 OF 2021, FEBRUARY 24 OF 2022 -- EXCUSE ME, SEPTEMBER
11:22:04 21 OF 2021 AND SEPTEMBER 29 OF -- FEBRUARY 24 OF 2022.
11:22:07 AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WAS NOT PRESENT ON MARCH 17
11:22:10 OF 2022.
11:22:18 THAT BEING THE CASE, I HAVE PROVIDED THE HEARING --
11:22:22 PREVIOUS HEARINGS, THE LINKS TO THOSE AND THE -- THE
11:22:26 RECORD AS IT IS IN SIRE, AND I ASKED THE COUNCILWOMAN
11:22:29 -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IF SHE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
11:22:32 REVIEW THE RECORD AND IF YOU ARE PREPARED TO VOTE.
11:22:35 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I REVIEWED THE RECORDS AND I AM
11:22:37 PREPARED TO VOTE.
11:22:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THAT, THE HEARING IS
11:22:43 OPEN AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, YOU
11:22:44 CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, READ THE ORDINANCE OR
11:22:46 NOT.
11:22:49 WHATEVER THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS AND TAKE THE VOTE.
11:22:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:22:53 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?
11:22:53 NOPE?
11:22:56 DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON
11:22:57 39.
11:22:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THE APPLICANT CAN COME UP AND
11:23:02 IDENTIFY.
11:23:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:23:11 >> I AM JOSEPH COMMESSO, THE OWNER OF 703 NORTH WILLOW
11:23:13 AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
11:23:15 I KNOW WE HAVE A NEW MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL.
11:23:19 I AM ASKING FOR -- I KNOW THE PARKING WAS AN ISSUE WITH
11:23:21 A LOT OF THE MEMBERS ON HERE.
11:23:22 WE HAVE A 3-3 TIE.
11:23:25 SO I GUESS I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A REVOTE OR I AM
11:23:28 JUST TALKING TO MISS HURTAK ON THIS.
11:23:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A REVOTE.
11:23:30 >> OKAY.
11:23:34 WE DO HAVE A PARKING LEASE WITH 1221 WEST CASS STREET
11:23:39 WHICH IS OWNED BY SOHO CASS STREET LCC, BUT ACCORDING
11:23:43 TO THE CITY AND THE RULES, SINCE THEY ARE ONLY ZONED
11:23:46 FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THAT MEANS I HAVE NO
11:23:47 ACCESS TO IT.
11:23:52 SO EVEN TO GO OUT AND FIND OTHER PARKING IN THE AREA,
11:23:55 IF I HAVE A LEASE, WHICH I DO, WITH ANOTHER PROPERTY AT
11:23:58 1220, YOU GUYS STILL WOULD NOT CONSIDER IT BECAUSE IT
11:24:01 IS ONLY ZONED FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY TO PARK AT.
11:24:03 SO I AM KIND OF AT A CROSSROADS.
11:24:06 WHAT DO I TO DO GET MORE PARKING.
11:24:11 I WOULD JUST LIKE A FAIR YEA OR NAY VOTE FROM YOU GUYS.
11:24:14 I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS A BREWERY/RESTAURANT
11:24:18 WHICH IS THE PLANS FOR THIS PROPERTY ONCE -- IF WE GET
11:24:19 APPROVAL.
11:24:20 WE WILL COME BACK.
11:24:22 WE WANT TO OPEN A RESTAURANT ON THIS PROPERTY
11:24:23 EVENTUALLY.
11:24:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FROM MY UNDERSTANDING -- MY
11:24:29 PERSONAL OPINION, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, NORTH HYDE PARK,
11:24:30 CORRECT.
11:24:31 >> CORRECT.
11:24:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GENERALLY THEY TALK OF
11:24:33 WALKABILITY.
11:24:35 THEY TALK OF RIDING THEIR BIKE.
11:24:37 YOU SEE THE DENSITY IN THE APARTMENTS.
11:24:39 THE RESIDENTIAL THAT IS THERE.
11:24:41 SO, YOU KNOW, WOULD PARKING BE AN ISSUE.
11:24:44 THAT IS -- LOOKING AT THIS.
11:24:46 DO YOU EVEN NEED THE PARKING.
11:24:47 >> I DON'T THINK I NEED THE PARKING BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK
11:24:50 AT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE.
11:24:51 THEY ARE YOUNG.
11:24:53 THEY WANT A PLACE LIKE THIS TO GO TO FROM THE
11:24:53 NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:24:55 I DON'T EVEN THINK I NEED THE PARKING.
11:24:58 WILL IT BE A PLACE THAT IS POPULAR WITH PEOPLE FROM
11:25:02 OTHER AREAS AN WANT TO DRIVE IN, AND WE HAVE UP TO 40
11:25:05 SPACES NOW, BUT YOU GUYS WON'T CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE OF
11:25:08 THE ZONING THAT THAT PARKING ALREADY HAS.
11:25:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
11:25:10 I AM NOT TESTIFYING.
11:25:13 I AM GIVING AN OPINION.
11:25:14 IS IT OKAY WHAT I SAID.
11:25:17 THAT DOESN'T EFFECT THE RECORD, RIGHT?
11:25:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME SAY THIS MR. CHAIRMAN AND
11:25:23 MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, JUST A REMINDER THAT THERE IS --
11:25:26 THERE ARE CODE PROVISIONS OR A CODE PROVISION THAT
11:25:29 ALLOWS FOR PARKING LEASE FOR PARKING TO BE CONSIDERED
11:25:32 IF IT MEETS CERTAIN CRITERIA.
11:25:35 THAT IS A DESIGN EXCEPTION AND I BELIEVE THAT -- THERE
11:25:40 IS A RECORD AS TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE DESIGN
11:25:41 EXCEPTION.
11:25:45 MR. HUSSEIN CAN ANSWER THAT IF THE COUNCIL HAS ANY
11:25:47 QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
11:25:49 WITH REGARD TO THE FACT THIS WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THE
11:25:52 CITY FOR WHATEVER REASONS, THEN WHAT IS BEFORE YOU IS A
11:25:57 PARKING WAIVER WHICH, I RESPECTIVE OF WHAT THE
11:25:59 BUSINESSES IS RUNS WITH THE LAND.
11:26:02 SO JUST A REMINDER TO YOU.
11:26:05 IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, YOU HAVE THE
11:26:10 OPPORTUNITY TO INQUIRE OF STAFF AND LEGAL ON THE
11:26:12 APPLICANT BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION.
11:26:15 JUST THAT REMINDER, PLEASE.
11:26:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:26:21 ANYBODY ELSE, SIR?
11:26:24 ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, 39.
11:26:25 NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
11:26:27 A MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:26:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION.
11:26:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:26:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
11:26:35 WE LEFT WITH COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:26:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM VOTING AGAINST THIS, NO, SIR.
11:26:44 >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER AB 2-20-11.
11:26:48 CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING -- SORRY ORDINANCE BEING
11:26:51 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT
11:26:59 S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, SMALL, AND ON PREMISE HIS
11:27:03 AND OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
11:27:07 BEVERAGES REGARDLESSLE EVER ALCOHOL CONTENT BEER, WINE
11:27:13 AND LIQUOR ON CERTAIN LOT, PLAT OR TRACT OF LAND ON 703
11:27:18 NORTH WILLOW AVENUE, PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCES OR PART
11:27:22 OF ORDINANCES OF CONFLICT ARE REPEALED PROVIDING AN
11:27:24 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:27:25 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
11:27:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.
11:27:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:27:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
11:27:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
11:27:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
11:27:35 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:27:36 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:27:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:27:42 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA, CITRO AND GUDES
11:27:43 VOTING NO.
11:27:46 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD MAY 19, 2022
11:27:48 AT 9:30 A.M.
11:27:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:27:54 MR. WIGGINTON.
11:27:56 ARE YOU UP.
11:27:56 >> ITEM NUMBER 40.
11:27:58 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:28:00 ROB WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:28:04 ITEM NUMBER 40 IS A CONTINUATION OF THE FIRST READING
11:28:08 TO VACATE AN ALLEYWAY LOCATED IN EAST TAMPA.
11:28:12 I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND CITY COUNCIL YOU HAVE WIDE
11:28:15 LATITUDE TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THE VACATING REQUEST.
11:28:18 SOME OF THE OTHER PACTERS YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IF
11:28:21 THE VACATING WILL RELIEVE THE PUBLIC FROM THE COST OF
11:28:24 MAINTAINING ALLEYWAY WHICH IS NO LONGER USEFUL,
11:28:28 ALLEVIATE A PUBLIC NUISANCE OF DUMPING OR KERR TAME
11:28:29 CINL ACTIVITY.
11:28:32 WHETHER YOU WILL FOSTER REDEVELOPMENT OF ABUTTING
11:28:32 PROPERTIES.
11:28:37 AND WHETHER THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS' ACCESS WILL
11:28:39 BE DIMINISHED OR COMPLETELY CUT OFF.
11:28:44 WE WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE DOOR TO MR. ROSS SAMONS WHO
11:28:47 WILL PRESENT A PRESENTATION.
11:28:49 AND I WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:28:52 >>ROSS SAMONS: THANK YOU, ROSS SAMONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT
11:28:53 COORDINATION.
11:28:56 VAC-22-07.
11:28:59 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN,
11:29:09 PLEASE.
11:29:12 CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
11:29:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
11:29:24 >> FILE NUMBER VAC-22-07.
11:29:27 APPLICANT NAME IS TIMONEY B. JOHNSON.
11:29:33 ADDRESS IS EAST IDA TREAT, 2603.
11:29:36 TO VACATE THE ALLEYWAY PORTION OF MARTIN LUTHER KING,
11:29:40 JR., WEST OF 26TH STREET AND EAST OF 27TH STREET.
11:29:43 THIS ALLEY WAS CREATED FOR SUBDIVISION PLAT AND LOCATED
11:29:47 IN EAST TAMPA, NORTH OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
11:29:49 BOULEVARD.
11:29:53 THE APPLICATION WAS FILED ON JANUARY 8 OF 2022.
11:29:55 THE APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE
11:29:58 EAST AND WEST PORTION OF THE ALLEY THAT IS REQUESTING
11:30:02 TO BE VACATED.
11:30:08 THE REASONS IS AS FOLLOWS: CODE ENFORCEMENT SAY
11:30:10 RESPONSIBLE TO MAINTAIN THE ALEY.
11:30:14 I WILL MAINTAIN THE ALLEY IF I OWN HALF OF IT.
11:30:17 THE APPLICANT WANTS TO MAINTAIN AND OWN PROPERTY WITHIN
11:30:17 THE AREA.
11:30:20 WITHIN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.
11:30:23 NO EXISTING CODE VIOLATIONS ON THIS PROPERTY.
11:30:27 AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO VACATE EAT AND
11:30:31 WEST PORTION OF THE ALLEY 2603 EAST IDA STREET.
11:30:34 EXISTING IS 1980 SQUARE FEET.
11:30:39 THE ALLEY UNIMPROVED GRASS AND DOES NOT SHOW APPARENT
11:30:41 USE BY ABUTTING OWNERS.
11:30:44 A TREE BLOCKS THE ALLEY ON THE WEST END.
11:30:46 NO UTILITIES UTILIZE THE ALLEY AND NO EASEMENT
11:30:50 REGULATIONS ARE REQUIRED.
11:30:52 AND HERE IS THE AERIAL VIEW.
11:30:55 THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IN RED AND PROPOSED VACATING
11:31:01 REQUEST IN YELLOW.
11:31:10 HERE IS THE VACATING REQUEST IN RED WITHIN THE PLAT.
11:31:14 JUST AN OVERALL VIEW OF THE SENATORS.
11:31:17 THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING EAST FROM 26TH STREET.
11:31:21 THE ALLEY IS NOT IMPROVED.
11:31:25 THE APPLICANT'S PARCEL LOOKING SOUTH FROM IDA STREET.
11:31:29 THE NORTH AND SOUTH ALLEYWAY LOOKING NORTH FROM DR.
11:31:30 MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD AND NOT TO BE
11:31:36 VACATED.
11:31:41 NORTH AND SOUTH OF LOOKING FROM IDA STREET NOT TO BE
11:31:42 VACATED.
11:31:46 LOOKING AT WEST, NOT TO BE VACATED.
11:31:48 STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION OF THIS VACATING REQUEST BASED
11:31:53 ON RESPONSES RECEIVED FROM REVIEWING AGENCIES.
11:31:56 AND NO EASEMENT OR RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED.
11:32:00 THANK YOU.
11:32:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:32:02 SEEING NONE.
11:32:05 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 40?
11:32:05 YES, SIR.
11:32:07 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:32:12 >> TIMOTHY JOHNSON, I AM THE APPLICANT.
11:32:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
11:32:16 >> I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:32:19 MY RATIONALE.
11:32:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:32:22 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC?
11:32:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:32:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WIGGINTON.
11:32:29 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECOND BY
11:32:32 MIRANDA.
11:32:34 MR. GUDES, READ ITEM NUMBER 40.
11:32:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: VAC-22-07, FIRST READING
11:32:40 CONSIDERATION.
11:32:43 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,
11:32:46 CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING A RIGHT-OF-WAY
11:32:51 AND ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF IDA STREET, NORTH OF DR.
11:32:53 MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD, EAST OF 26TH STREET
11:32:57 AND WEST OF 27TH AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF THE NORTH
11:33:00 CAMPOBELLO, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:33:03 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED
11:33:07 IN SECTION 2 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
11:33:10 CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET
11:33:15 FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PROVIDING
11:33:19 FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:33:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND SECOND.
11:33:22 ROLL CALL.
11:33:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:33:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:33:26 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:33:27 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:33:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:33:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:33:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:33:33 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:33:36 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MAY 19,
11:33:41 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
11:33:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:33:47 WE CAN NOT GO FOR OUR 1:30 BECAUSE IT IS NOT 1:30 YET.
11:33:48 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
11:33:50 A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
11:33:54 MR. SHELBY, YOU HAVE A FEW ITEMS, AND THEN GO TO
11:33:55 COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:33:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TAKE UP NEW BUSINESS AT THIS TIME
11:33:59 RATHER THAN GO UP INTO STAFF REPORTS.
11:34:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EVERYONE COMFORTABLE WITH NEW
11:34:02 BUSINESS NOW.
11:34:04 WE CAN ALWAYS --
11:34:07 >>BILL CARLSON: I MAY HAVE SOME AT THE END.
11:34:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THE BULK.
11:34:14 MR. SHELBY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
11:34:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:34:20 SEPTEMBER 2022, PURSUANT TO CHANGES IN STATE STATUTE,
11:34:24 COUNCIL WAS REQUIRED TO HAVE LOCAL ELECTED OFFICER TO
11:34:26 THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
11:34:29 AND THAT POSITION IS NOW VACANT.
11:34:35 AND, THEREFORE, THE TERM IS REMAINING UNTIL SEPTEMBER
11:34:38 17 OF 2023.
11:34:41 SO COUNCIL NEEDS TO APPOINT SOMEBODY TO FILL THE
11:34:43 UNEXPIRED TERM.
11:34:46 AND UNDER THE -- UNDER THE CODE, THAT PERSON IS
11:34:49 PERMITTED TO CONTINUE IN THAT POSITION.
11:34:53 SO THEY WISH FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO FULL TERMS.
11:34:56 THE QUESTION, COUNCIL, IS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS
11:35:00 THIS NOW OR WOULD YOU RATHER DISCUSS THIS NEXT WEEK FOR
11:35:03 MAKING AN APPOINTMENT TO THAT BOARD.
11:35:05 AGAIN, IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
11:35:12 I COULD COME BACK COUNCIL COULD INDICATE WHO THEIR
11:35:15 CHOICE AND COME BACK WITH A RESOLUTION WITH THAT NAME.
11:35:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY NOMINATION WILL BE COUNCILWOMAN
11:35:18 HURTAK.
11:35:19 JUST MY OPINION.
11:35:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU CAN'T MAKE A MOTION.
11:35:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM JUST GIVING AN OPINION.
11:35:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
11:35:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'LL MAKE IT NOW.
11:35:28 SHE IS HERE.
11:35:30 IT IS OPEN.
11:35:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU INTERESTED.
11:35:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE FOR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO FILL
11:35:37 THAT SPACE.
11:35:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND
11:35:41 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A RESOLUTION TO
11:35:43 APPOINT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
11:35:47 HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE LENGTH OF TERM THAT
11:35:48 YOU SPECIFY.
11:35:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:35:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:35:51 AYE.
11:35:52 OPPOSED.
11:35:53 I NEED --
11:35:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOR YOUR INFORMATION 100%, 7-0.
11:36:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UNANIMOUS VOTE.
11:36:03 MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DO A
11:36:06 15-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON MAY 19 TO DISCUSS THE UPDATED
11:36:10 SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.
11:36:13 I THINK IT WILL BE PUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING
11:36:14 9 A.M.
11:36:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:36:18 WHAT DAY, MAY 19?
11:36:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY 19, 15 MINUTES, PLANNING
11:36:23 COMMISSION TO DISCUSS THE UPDATED SINGLE-MEMBER
11:36:24 DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.
11:36:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I PROVIDED BACKUP MATERIAL.
11:36:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND
11:36:32 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA OPINION.
11:36:33 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:36:34 DID YOU MAKE THE MOTION?
11:36:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DID.
11:36:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WITHDRAW MY SECOND FOR --
11:36:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:36:45 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM OUR ATTORNEY CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE
11:36:48 REQUESTING TO PRESENT THE CITIZEN BOARD 2021 ANNUAL
11:36:51 REPORT ON MAY 5.
11:36:53 A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:36:54 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:36:55 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:37:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE IS A REQUEST IN THAT MEMO THAT
11:37:05 THE APPEARANCE BE SCHEDULED AT A TIME CERTAIN AT 9 A.M.
11:37:11 WITH THE REQUEST THAT THE CRB CHAIR AND TPD COORDINATOR
11:37:12 PRESENT.
11:37:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
11:37:15 THE CLERK HAS THE CLARIFICATION.
11:37:19 IS THAT OKAY AS PART OF THE MOTION?
11:37:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES IT IS.
11:37:28 >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM NUMBER 1?
11:37:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:37:32 OKEY-DOKEY.
11:37:36 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANY NEW BUSINESS AT THIS TIME?
11:37:38 >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WILL TRY ONE OR
11:37:41 TWO AND RESERVE THE RIGHT TO DO SOME LATER.
11:37:45 ITEM NUMBER 51, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOTTEN A COPY OF
11:37:49 THIS RESOLUTION YET, BUT IT IS -- IT IS A RESOLUTION OF
11:37:52 THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA RECOGNIZING MAY
11:37:57 2022 AS OSTEOPOROSIS AWARENESS MONTH.
11:38:00 AND ENCOURAGING RESIDENTS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.
11:38:06 BONE HEALTH AND PREVENT OSTEOPOROSIS.
11:38:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON
11:38:12 AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:38:13 MOTION PASSES.
11:38:14 ANYTHING ELSE?
11:38:15 >>BILL CARLSON: ANOTHER ONE REAL FAST.
11:38:18 THE MAYOR HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY
11:38:22 AND TRANSPARENCY THE OTHER DAY AND I HAVE GOTTEN A LOT
11:38:23 OF FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT.
11:38:27 I THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE A DISCUSSION ABOUT -- I WOULD
11:38:30 LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT
11:38:38 ETHICS, TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE
11:38:41 SEPTEMBER 22 WORKSHOP TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT
11:38:46 IDEAS THEY HAVE TO IMPROVE THE CITY'S ETHICS AND OTHER
11:38:47 RULES.
11:38:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:38:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON
11:38:53 AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA THAT IS FOR THE
11:38:55 SECOND 22 WORKSHOP.
11:39:00 I DON'T SEE ANYTHING -- I GUESS ITEM NUMBER 1.
11:39:02 CARL CARLSON I PUT IT IN SEPTEMBER BECAUSE VACATIONS
11:39:04 ARE ABOUT TO START AND PEOPLE WILL BE OUT.
11:39:08 IT SEEMED TO BE THE BEST TIME HAVE EVERYBODY AROUND.
11:39:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:39:14 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:39:15 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:39:20 >>LUIS VIERA: ON THAT DAY I AM SEEING KISS MY SON ON
11:39:23 WEST PALM BEACH.
11:39:24 I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN.
11:39:26 YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT UP.
11:39:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MAY OR MAY NOT BE HERE.
11:39:31 >>BILL CARLSON: MAKE IT OCTOBER.
11:39:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MAY NOT BE HERE OPINION.
11:39:37 I WILL DEFINITELY DO THAT.
11:39:39 >>BILL CARLSON: OCTOBER 27.
11:39:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON
11:39:42 OCTOBER 27, 9 A.M.
11:39:46 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CHANGE THE DATE TO OCTOBER 27 FOR
11:39:52 THE ETHICS WORKSHOP THAT COUNCILMEMBER.
11:39:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN LIVE A LITTLE LONGER.
11:39:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:39:58 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:40:00 FOR OCTOBER 27.
11:40:05 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
11:40:08 >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL WAIT UNTIL LATER.
11:40:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:40:13 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:40:14 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:40:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE TO RESCHEDULE THE FIRE FIGHTER
11:40:22 OF THE QUARTER COMMENDATION TO OCTOBER 20, CITY COUNCIL
11:40:25 REGULAR SESSION 9 A.M.
11:40:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND
11:40:32 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:40:33 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:40:36 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING FOR ME.
11:40:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:40:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE BUDGET OFFICE ONCE AGAIN WILL
11:40:43 BE RECEIVING THE DISTINGUISHED BUDGET AWARD FOR THE --
11:40:45 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2022.
11:40:48 WOULD LIKE TO SCHEDULE THAT POSSIBLE FOR MAY 10.
11:40:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
11:40:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:40:52 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:40:54 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:40:55 ALL RIGHT.
11:40:58 THE ONLY MOTION I HAVE IS THAT WE TAKE A RECESS NOW
11:41:00 UNTIL 1:30 FOR LUNCH.
11:41:03 WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 1:30 FOR THE REST OF EVERYTHING
11:41:05 HERE.
11:41:09 BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS -- IS KNOWN TO COME BACK THEN.
11:41:12 SO MOTION TO RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
11:41:15 [GAVEL SOUNDING]
13:34:09 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
13:34:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
13:34:12 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
13:34:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
13:34:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
13:34:17 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
13:34:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
13:34:20 ITEM NUMBER 20.
13:34:21 >>ROB ROSNER: GOOD AFTERNOON.
13:34:29 I APPRECIATE THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT 20 AND 21.
13:34:33 SO TODAY, WE BRING UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
13:34:38 SO JUST WANTED TO OPEN WITH A SLIDE TO GIVE EVERYONE AN IDEA
13:34:42 OF THIS SCALE, IN WEST TAMPA, HOW CLOSE IT IS TO DOWNTOWN,
13:34:46 AND DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE MLK CENTER.
13:34:50 IN THE LOWER CORNER YOU WILL SEE KIND OF JUST A GRAPHIC OF
13:34:53 WHAT THE OVERALL PLANE IS, AND HERE TO HELP WITH THAT IN
13:34:58 DETAIL.
13:35:00 SO THIS PROJECT STARTED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, THE
13:35:04 ADMINISTRATION DECIDED TO PUT THIS OUT, AND DO A HOLISTIC
13:35:08 APPROACH OF DOING DEVELOPMENTS, SO WE DECIDED TO BE A MIXED
13:35:12 INCOME, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, AND WITH A STRONG ENGAGEMENT
13:35:16 WITH THE COMMUNITY.
13:35:17 SO WE ARE -- OCTOBER OF 2020.
13:35:21 WE RECEIVED SIX RESPONSES AND INTERVIEWED THE TOP THREE.
13:35:24 AND OUT OF THAT SELECTION PROCESS RELATED URBAN DEVELOPMENT
13:35:29 GROUP WAS SELECTED.
13:35:30 WE BEGAN NEGOTIATIONS IN THE SPRING OF 21, AND JUST
13:35:33 COMPLETED THOSE IN THE FIRST PORTION.
13:35:34 SO TODAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE CONSIDERATION OF TWO DIFFERENT
13:35:38 AGREEMENTS, A LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT AND A COMMUNITY
13:35:41 BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
13:35:43 SO JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE AGREEMENT.
13:35:48 THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS SUBMITTED HAD TWO FORMS OF
13:35:51 DISPOSITIONS.
13:35:53 THEY HAVE A 99 YEAR GROUND LEASE, AND A FOR SALE TOWNHOMES
13:36:01 PORTION, AND THEN RFP REQUIRED AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS
13:36:06 AGREEMENT, AND THIS WILL BE THE FIRST OFFICIAL ONE THAT WE
13:36:08 HAVE.
13:36:08 AND THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR THE
13:36:11 ENTIRE PROCESS.
13:36:13 IT COVERS ALL THE BENEFITS FROM THE PHYSICAL AMENITIES TO
13:36:16 THE LESS TANGIBLE ONES.
13:36:21 AND I'LL START WITH THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.
13:36:24 THE PROPOSAL OFFERED A IT 99 YEAR GROUND LEASE FOR THE
13:36:27 MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY.
13:36:29 IT HAS A TOWN HOME PORTION OF IT THAT HAS TO BE PAID IN FEE
13:36:34 SIMPLE.
13:36:35 THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE DONE IN FIVE PHASES.
13:36:37 TAKE ABOUT SIX YEARS TO GET COMPLETED.
13:36:41 AND WE HAVE 360 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE NEXT THREE ITEMS BEFORE
13:36:46 WE CAN CONTINUE.
13:36:47 AND THOSE THREE ITEMS ARE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY,
13:36:52 NEGOTIATION OF MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE AND RIVERWALK
13:36:55 IMPROVEMENTS AGREEMENT, WHICH IS PART OF THE BUILD GRANT,
13:37:00 AND THEN A PHASING AND TIMING PLAN FOR THE PROJECT.
13:37:03 THOSE WILL ALL COME BEFORE YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
13:37:07 NEXT WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
13:37:12 THIS AGAIN IS REQUIRED BY THE RFP.
13:37:14 WE HAVE IT ALL IN CBA.
13:37:17 WE ENGAGE THE NEIGHBORHOODS INCLUDING THE WEST TAMPA CAC.
13:37:24 THOSE ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS ARE REQUIRED SO WE HAVE ALL THE
13:37:28 RIGHT THINGS.
13:37:29 AND THEN IT CONTAINS COMMITMENTS FOR THOSE PHYSICAL
13:37:32 IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS THE A AFFORDABILITY COMMITMENTS, THE
13:37:35 MINORITY PARTICIPATION AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITMENTS
13:37:39 AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITMENTS.
13:37:41 SO THOSE ARE THE OVERVIEW OF THE TWO DOCUMENTS THAT ARE
13:37:44 BEFORE YOU FOR ITEMS 20 AND 21.
13:37:47 I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WE MET RECENTLY WITH THE WEST TAMPA
13:37:52 CAC AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEK ON THE 12th.
13:37:55 THEY ASKED FOR SOME LAST MINUTE CHANGES WHICH WERE ALL
13:37:58 POSITIVE AND HELPFUL, AND THE CHARACTERIZED.
13:38:06 THIS NEXT SLIDE.
13:38:08 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
13:38:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN I LOOK AT 20 AND 21, IT DIDN'T STRIKE
13:38:14 ME TILL LAST NIGHT.
13:38:15 WHEN I LOOKED AT THE BOUNDARY, WE SAY NORTH OF SPRUCE.
13:38:20 IN MY MIND, I SEE THE SCHOOL, I SEE THE BASEBALL FIELD.
13:38:26 IS THAT ALL INCLUDED, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM INVOLVED IN THIS
13:38:28 PROCESS HERE?
13:38:30 >> JC PROPERTY OWNERS, AND YES, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE --
13:38:37 CORRECT.
13:38:38 THEY ARE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS BUT THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED
13:38:40 IN THIS DEAL.
13:38:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BECAUSE WHEN I HEAR NORTH OF SPRUCE, IT
13:38:48 GOES RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE THERE SO WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR MAP
13:38:52 I AM ADJUSTMENT WONDERING HOW IT COMES INTO PLAY HERE.
13:38:55 >> SO THE SIX ACRE PORTION OF THE SITE IS JUST NORTH OF JUST
13:38:59 ELEMENTARY, AND THE 12-ACRE SITE IS JUST NORTH OF THE MLK
13:39:03 CENTER.
13:39:04 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO BRING THE MAP UP.
13:39:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WE ARE SAYING IT'S BEHIND -- YOU HAVE
13:39:08 GOT TO TELL ME IT'S BEHIND THOSE ADJACENT PROPERTIES?
13:39:12 >> YES.
13:39:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU SAY NORTH OF SPRUCE?
13:39:14 >> YES.
13:39:15 THE SCHOOLS ARE ON SPRUCE.
13:39:16 THESE ARE NORTH OF THAT.
13:39:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
13:39:21 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION BACK UP,
13:39:26 PLEASE?
13:39:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME BACK TO THE MAP AT THE BEGINNING.
13:39:32 >> SO THE WEST RIVER DEVELOPMENT IS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE
13:39:39 BORDER TO SPRUCE ON THE SOUTH, THE SCHOOL JUST ON THE NORTH,
13:39:42 THE BASEBALL FIELDS THAT ARE THE SIX ACRE PORTION THAT ARE
13:39:46 JUST NORTH OF JUST ELEMENTARY, AND THEN THE OLD WATER SITE
13:39:51 THAT'S THERE IS UTILITIES, THAT IS THE OTHER --
13:39:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BUT THE BASEBALL FIELD IS CITY PROPERTY,
13:39:57 CORRECT?
13:39:58 >> CORRECT.
13:39:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S PART OF THIS DEAL?
13:40:00 >> YES.
13:40:01 SO WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IS THOSE 18 ACRES.
13:40:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THOSE ARE ALL CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES.
13:40:11 >> RIGHT.
13:40:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND MY FINAL QUESTION TO YOU, THE SCHOOL
13:40:15 DISTRICT, IT'S NOT PART OF --
13:40:17 >> NOT PART OF THIS.
13:40:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECONDLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I PUT THAT
13:40:21 COMMUNITY AGREEMENT FOR CRAs ON THE RECORD IS THE WEST
13:40:25 TAMPA CAC, THAT COMMUNITY IS SATISFIED WITH WHAT THEY WANT
13:40:30 TO SEE A PART OF THIS PROJECT FOR THE CRA?
13:40:36 >> YES.
13:40:36 WE HAVE MET WITH THEM THREE DIFFERENT TIMES, AND THEY WILL
13:40:38 BE INCLUDED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
13:40:40 AND AS I WAS MENTIONING A MOMENT AGO, WE MET WITH THEM JUST
13:40:44 AS A MATTER OF FACT LAST TUESDAY.
13:40:46 PREVIOUSLY.
13:40:48 SO THIS --
13:40:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A LOT CAN HAPPEN, SO THEY HAVE MET, THEY
13:40:55 ARE HAPPY, THEY GOT WHAT THEY WANT, APPARENTLY WHAT THEY
13:40:57 WANT FOR THIS PROJECT?
13:41:01 >>ROB ROSNER: CORRECT.
13:41:02 SO WE BROUGHT TO YOU A SUBSTITUTE SET OF AGREEMENTS THAT
13:41:05 INCLUDED THOSE LAST MINUTE CHANGES.
13:41:07 AND I WILL OUTLINED THOSE IF YOU DON'T MIND.
13:41:13 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION BEFORE YOU GET
13:41:15 INTO THAT?
13:41:16 I ASKED YOU THIS YESTERDAY, AND MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION FOR
13:41:18 YOU AND LEGAL.
13:41:19 YOU ANSWERED A LITTLE BIT YESTERDAY, BUT ALSO JUST FOR THE
13:41:22 PUBLIC'S SAKE, IF YOU ALL CAN ANSWER THIS.
13:41:25 AS I REMEMBER, THE MAYOR HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE LIKE MARCH
13:41:29 17th A YEAR AGO, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, TO ANNOUNCE
13:41:33 THE AWARDING OF THIS RFP.
13:41:36 BUT IN A YEAR AND A MONTH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT CITY
13:41:41 COUNCIL HAS VOTED ON THIS, RIGHT?
13:41:43 >>ROB ROSNER: CORRECT.
13:41:45 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE NO REQUIREMENT IN THE LAW THAT THE
13:41:48 CITY COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE THE AWARDING OF THE RFP BEFORE
13:41:51 WE GET TO THE CONTRACT STAGE?
13:41:55 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NICOLE TRAVIS.
13:41:58 ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
13:42:01 THE ANSWER TO THAT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IS NO.
13:42:04 WHEN WE DO ISSUANCE OF THE RFP, WE DRAW THE RFP AND THE WAY
13:42:08 THE PROCESS IS LAID OUT AND ADMINISTRATOR DECISION IS MADE
13:42:12 BASED ON WHATEVER CRITERIA IS THE IN THE RFP, WHETHER IT'S
13:42:16 PROFESSIONAL, AND YOU HAVE A PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT REVIEWS
13:42:19 THAT, RANKS THEN THAT, AND ISSUE OF INTENT TO AWARD.
13:42:24 THEN WE ENTER INTO NEGOTIATION WITH THE TOP RANKED FIRM AND
13:42:28 THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH THE RELATED GROUP TO COME UP WITH A
13:42:31 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR DISPOSITION AGREEMENT THAT'S BEFORE
13:42:33 YOU TODAY.
13:42:34 SO THERE'S NO ACTION FOR THE BOARD.
13:42:36 THIS IS ACTUALLY YOUR PART IN THE PROCESS.
13:42:38 THE PREVIOUS PART OF THE PROCESS IS ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE
13:42:42 SIDE.
13:42:42 THIS IS NOW WHERE THIS BODY GETS TO APPROVE OR CONSIDER THE
13:42:46 PROPOSAL.
13:42:48 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
13:42:48 IT JUST SEEMS -- MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS IN NEW
13:42:54 BUSINESS THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME INTERIM STEP.
13:42:58 THERE WAS A LOT OF CONTROVERSY HE OVER THE WAY THIS WAS
13:43:00 AWARDED, LOTS OF STORIES IN THE TIMES AND OTHER PLACES,
13:43:03 EDITORIALS, AND IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE BY
13:43:07 A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE IN THE LAST YEAR, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT
13:43:09 WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD IDEA TO GET SOME KIND OF INTERIM
13:43:12 APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL BEFORE WE GOT TO THIS POINT.
13:43:15 AND IF THE LAWS DON'T REQUIRE IT, MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT
13:43:19 WHETHER WE SHOULD DO IT OR NOT.
13:43:21 BUT FROM A PUBLIC POINT OF VIEW, I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
13:43:25 A BETTER IDEA TO HAVE CONSENSUS BEFORE WE GOT TO THIS POINT,
13:43:29 BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY.
13:43:31 THANK YOU.
13:43:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
13:43:36 GO AHEAD.
13:43:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK A LOT OF EFFORT HAS BEEN PUT INTO
13:43:40 THE PROJECT.
13:43:41 AND I CAN SEE THAT.
13:43:43 BUT I SAID THIS MANY YEARS AGO IN 2019 WHEN I TALKED ABOUT
13:43:47 THE RFP PROCESS, AND THAT'S A PROCESS THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO
13:43:52 LOOK AT.
13:43:52 MAYBE NOT TODAY, BUT I THINK IN THE FUTURE.
13:43:55 MR. CARLSON, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL COUNCIL
13:44:00 BEING PART OF THAT RFP PROCESS.
13:44:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
13:44:04 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I WOULD LIKE FOR STAFF TO FINISH WITH THE
13:44:08 PRESENTATION AND THEN THE DEVELOPER TO COME UP AND DO A
13:44:10 PRESENTATION FOR COUNCIL, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE QUESTIONS AND
13:44:13 TALK ABOUT BOTH AGREEMENTS, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU.
13:44:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
13:44:17 GO AHEAD.
13:44:18 >>ROB ROSNER: AGAIN, ROB ROSNER, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC
13:44:22 OPPORTUNITY.
13:44:23 THE SUBSTITUTE DOCUMENTS INCLUDE THOSE ITEMS WHICH
13:44:27 INCLUDE -- INCLUDING ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDERS IN THE CBA
13:44:32 PROCESS, REVISED INCOME RESTRICTIONS FOR THE TOWNHOMES WHICH
13:44:35 WERE ORIGINALLY OFFERED AS NOT AFFORDABLE, BUT THEY ASKED IF
13:44:40 THEY COULD BE AFFORDABLE.
13:44:41 SO ONE OF THE ITEMS THERE IS TO INCREASE THAT TO 199% OF THE
13:44:46 AMI TO ALLOW THE DIFFERENTIATION OF THE TOWNHOMES.
13:44:49 AND THEN THE STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER AGREED TO THESE, SO WE
13:44:55 BROUGHT THOSE FORWARD AND SENT TO YOU EARLIER, AND THOSE
13:45:00 INCLUDE A NEW LDA, CBA, AND RESOLUTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH
13:45:05 IT.
13:45:05 ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT'S REFERENCED BY THIS IS THEIR PROPOSAL
13:45:08 AND THE PRESENTATION.
13:45:10 AND WE FOLLOWED -- FILED THAT WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
13:45:14 AND WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THOSE
13:45:16 AS PART OF THE CONSIDERATION.
13:45:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY
13:45:22 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
13:45:25 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:45:26 ANY OPPOSED?
13:45:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK MR. ROSNER EXPLAIN ABOUT THE
13:45:32 SITUATION WITH THE AGREEMENT, THE 190%, I BELIEVE IT IS.
13:45:37 >>ROB ROSNER: 199.
13:45:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: EXPLAIN THAT IF YOU CAN AND TALK ABOUT
13:45:40 AFFORDABILITY, TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS.
13:45:44 >>ROB ROSNER: DURING THE RFP PROCESS WE HAD CERTAIN GOALS,
13:45:47 CERTAIN PERCENTAGES OF AMI FOR THE DIFFERENT
13:45:49 AFFORDABILITIES.
13:45:51 SO WE HAD A 50% AMI, 80%, 140% AMI.
13:45:56 THESE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
13:45:59 SO THE TOWNHOMES WERE NOT REQUIRED TO BE THAT.
13:46:03 THEY OFFERED THAT AS AN EXTRA AND IMPROVED THEIR PROPOSAL
13:46:06 DURING THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS.
13:46:08 THE WEST TAMPA FOLKS ASKED, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE THIS 15
13:46:11 YEAR AFFORDABILITY, CAN IT BE FOR A DIFFERENT RANGE INSTEAD
13:46:14 OF THE NORMAL 140?
13:46:17 SO BECAUSE R SINCE THAT WASN'T A REQUIREMENT AND IT WAS AN
13:46:19 EXTRA, THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA.
13:46:23 SO THE 199 WOULD HELP COVER THOSE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE
13:46:27 TEACHERS THAT ARE LIVING OR WORKING TOGETHER, AND MISS THE
13:46:32 140 AMI.
13:46:33 SO THEY WANTED TO HAVE THAT RANGE TO GIVE THAT TO THE
13:46:36 NEIGHBORS AND THE PEOPLE IN WEST TAMPA.
13:46:41 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, ONE MORE QUESTION WHILE WE HAVE YOU
13:46:45 UP, ROB.
13:46:47 THIS MORNING, I TALKED ABOUT THE TOTAL VALUE OF THIS
13:46:50 CONTRACT, AND I JUST GOT A COPY OF THAT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT
13:46:54 WHAT I REMEMBER IS THERE'S LIKE A TWO AND A HALF MILLION
13:46:57 DOLLAR PAYMENT AND THEN AFTER SOME CRITERIA LIKE ANOTHER TWO
13:46:59 AND A HALF MILLION AND THEN 15% RENT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
13:47:03 BUT YOU ALL MUST HAVE DONE SOME PROJECTIONS OVER THE 99
13:47:07 YEARS OF WHAT YOU THINK THE REVENUES ARE GOING TO BE TO THE
13:47:09 CITY.
13:47:11 AND THOSE NUMBERS CAN CHANGE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
13:47:14 RENTAL RATES AND EVERYTHING ARE GOING TO BE.
13:47:16 BUT WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED REVENUES TO THE CITY?
13:47:20 BY THE WAY, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE 99 YEAR LEASE INSTEAD OF
13:47:23 SELLING IT OUTRIGHT.
13:47:24 I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
13:47:26 AND CAROL, I KNOW, PUSHED FOR IT.
13:47:29 IS THIS A $100 MILLION PROJECT FROM THE CITY REVENUE POINT
13:47:33 OF VIEW, OR 10 MILLION, ANY BALLPARK IDEA WHERE WE ARE?
13:47:37 >>ROB ROSNER: SO THE INITIAL OFFER WAS 2500 A UNIT.
13:47:41 WE HAVE 954 UNITS.
13:47:44 ASKED FOR 2.38 MILLION WAS OFFERED FOR THIS.
13:47:48 AND THAT WOULD COME AS EACH OF THE UNITS COME ON, THEY WOULD
13:47:52 COME UP AS A CAPITALIZED LEASE PAYMENT SO THEY PAY THAT UP
13:47:55 FRONT.
13:47:55 WE WOULD GET THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE
13:47:58 PROJECT.
13:47:59 THEN AFTER THAT, THOSE PHASES, THEY WOULD HAVE A NET CASH
13:48:03 FLOW, AND WE WOULD GET 12.5% OF THAT.
13:48:06 SO VERY SIMILAR TO PERCENTAGE RENT FOR A RESTAURANT.
13:48:11 SO THE IDEA IS THEY WOULD SAY THIS IS HOW MUCH OUR EXPENSES
13:48:14 ARE, THIS IS WHAT WE MADE IN REVENUE, GET 12.5 PERCENT --
13:48:19 >> YOU PROBABLY DID AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE CASH FLOW WOULD
13:48:22 BE TO THE CITY FOR THE 12.5 MILLION, AND MAYBE A PRESENT
13:48:26 VALUE OVER 30 YEARS OR SOMETHING?
13:48:30 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE DID TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT
13:48:33 PROJECTION IS BUT THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO KNOW WHAT THAT
13:48:36 NET CASH FLOW WOULD BE.
13:48:37 SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE IN THE MEMO THAT WAS SENT, YOU HAVE A
13:48:42 WRITE-UP FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
13:48:45 THAT CASH VALUE WOULD BE AND THERE'S REALLY NO WAY FOR US TO
13:48:49 PREDICT WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD BE.
13:48:53 WE DON'T KNOW VACANCY RATES.
13:48:54 WE DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT OF WHAT THE MARKET WOULD BE AT THAT
13:48:56 TIME.
13:48:57 WE DON'T KNOW WHAT LOANS, FINANCING.
13:49:01 WE CAN'T ESTIMATE WHAT THAT NET CASH FLOW VALUE WOULD BE TO
13:49:04 BE ABLE TO ATTACH A VALUE TO THAT.
13:49:06 SO IN OUR MEMO, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS -- THERE IS
13:49:12 SOMETHING STATED FROM THE BUDGET REVENUE AND FINANCE OFFICE
13:49:17 TO ADDRESS THAT.
13:49:18 BUT THERE'S NO NUMBER TO THAT YET.
13:49:20 >>BILL CARLSON: THE DEVELOPER MUST HAVE THEIR OWN CASH FLOW
13:49:23 PROJECTION.
13:49:24 THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
13:49:26 AND YOU COULD DO --
13:49:29 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I'M SURE THEY DID A PRO FORMA IN ORDER TO
13:49:31 FIGURE OUT WHETHER THE PROJECT IS A VIABLE ONE OR NOT, AND
13:49:35 THAT'S A QUESTION THAT YOU CAN ASK THE DEVELOPER.
13:49:37 AGAIN, IF WE CAN FINISH OUR PRESENTATION AND THEN GET INTO
13:49:41 THE --
13:49:43 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST -- NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT, BUT WE
13:49:46 HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO THE TAXPAYERS AND IT'S A
13:49:50 99 YEAR LEASE AND IF WE SOLD THE PROPERTY OUTRIGHT WE WOULD
13:49:53 KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS.
13:49:54 AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S VARIABLE BUT YOU HAVE BEST CASE, WORSE
13:49:58 CASE, AN ECONOMIST PROJECTING IT AND YOU WOULDN'T HOLD
13:50:02 ANYBODY TO IT BUT WOULD HAVE A GENERAL IDEA WHAT IT WOULD
13:50:04 END UP BEING.
13:50:05 >> I CAN'T PROVIDE YOU ANY MORE DEFINITIVE INFORMATION,
13:50:10 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUT IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROPOSALS
13:50:13 THAT THE CITY RECEIVED THE THREE FINALISTS.
13:50:15 THIS WAS THE ONLY PROPOSAL WHERE THERE WAS AN OFFER TO
13:50:17 ACTUALLY PAY THE CITY FOR THE PROPERTY OR PROVIDE A LEASE
13:50:21 PAYMENT, AND ALSO THIS IS THE ONLY PROPOSAL THAT CAME
13:50:24 FORWARD WHERE THEY AGREED NOT TO SEEK FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE
13:50:27 FROM THE CRA FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
13:50:30 SO THAT WEIGHED INTO THE DECISION MAKING.
13:50:32 >>BILL CARLSON: BUT JUST A THOUGHT, NO WHERE, OUR BUDGET
13:50:38 DEPARTMENT DID NOT DO ANY PROJECTIONS AT ALL?
13:50:41 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THE BUDGET, THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE
13:50:47 IS ALL SPECULATION, BASED ON A NUMBER OF VARIABLES THAT WE
13:50:50 DON'T HAVE AT THIS TIME.
13:50:51 HOWEVER, IN THE RFP THAT IS RECORDED WITH THIS PROJECT, YOU
13:50:55 WILL NOTICE THAT THE RESPONDENT RELATED GROUP HAS ESTIMATED
13:50:59 OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT ABOUT 154 MILLION INVESTMENT IN
13:51:04 THE PROJECT.
13:51:04 WHAT THEIR NET CASH FLOW IS, WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE AGAIN
13:51:08 THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AVAILABLE VARIABLES THAT ARE UNKNOWN
13:51:10 TO US, THAT YOU CAN'T MATHEMATICALLY PUT OUT THAT EQUATION
13:51:14 RIGHT NOW.
13:51:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROGERO, YOU ARE ON.
13:51:22 >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOOD AFTERNOON.
13:51:25 CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
13:51:26 I WAS JUST GOING TO REITERATE THE COMMENTS THAT MS. TRAVIS
13:51:30 SAID.
13:51:30 THERE ARE JUST TOO MANY VARIABLES OVER A 99-YEAR PERIOD.
13:51:34 WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE -- (AUDIO DROP) AND THAT'S
13:51:41 WHY --
13:51:44 >>> THANK YOU.
13:51:46 WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION THEN.
13:51:49 >> I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE ALBERT MILE WITH THE RELATED
13:51:54 GROUP TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT AND THE CBA PROCESS THEY
13:51:57 WENT THROUGH AS A GROUP.
13:51:59 ALBERT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP, PLEASE?
13:52:01 >> THANK YOU.
13:52:14 [NO ENCODER]
13:52:39 -- PUBLIC HOUSING, WHAT USED TO BE THE OLD -- HOMES, JUST A
13:52:44 FEW BLOCKS TO THE SOUTH OF THE ROME YARDS DEVELOPMENT HERE
13:52:50 TODAY, AND IF YOU HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT AREA,
13:52:54 AND KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH TO DATE,
13:52:58 WHAT USED TO BE 800 UNITS OF PUBLIC HOUSING, THAT WAS BUILT
13:53:02 IN THE 1930s, IS NOW FULLY TRANSFORMED INTO WE HAVE
13:53:08 COMPLETED FOUR OF THE BUILDINGS, TAMPA HOUSING COMPLETED THE
13:53:12 FIFTH BUILDING, ABOUT TO FINISH OUR SIXTH BUILDING INCLUDING
13:53:16 THE RENOVATIONS, AND ALL THE BOULEVARD, WEST RIVER BOULEVARD
13:53:23 PROPERTIES, WE JUST RECENTLY -- AND THIS IS AN ENVIRONMENT
13:53:28 OF ESCALATING CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND RATES THAT WE KEEP
13:53:31 HEARING ABOUT.
13:53:33 WE JUST CLOSED ON THE NEXT 190-SOME ODD UNITS ON THE EASTERN
13:53:39 BLOCK SO WE CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT THAT PROJECT.
13:53:42 THAT IS A PROJECT THAT WHEN WE STARTED OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH
13:53:45 TAMPA HOUSING, AGAIN IT WAS 800 UNITS OF DEVELOPMENT AND
13:53:50 STRICTLY ALL PUBLIC HOUSING, ALL LOWER INCOME.
13:53:52 NOW AS WE GO THROUGH, WE ARE BUILDING A MIXED INCOME
13:53:56 COMMUNITY, AND IN ADDITION TO MARKET RATE.
13:53:59 THERE'S A MARKET RATE COMPONENT THAT'S GETTING READY TO
13:54:03 START IN THAT AREA, A HOME OWNERSHIP MUCH PART OF WEST
13:54:06 RIVER, GOING TO BE A BIG NATIONAL RETAIL STORY THAT'S COME
13:54:10 TO THE CORNER OF MAIN STREET AND NORTH BOULEVARD, SO WE ARE
13:54:17 BIG PROMOTERS OF MIXED INCOME.
13:54:19 I HEARD A LOT OF TALK EARLIER ABOUT THE CONCERNS OF RISING
13:54:25 RENTS, AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR FAMILIES.
13:54:29 I HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TOUCHING ON JOBS AND
13:54:36 WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE MIGHT BE FOR FOLKS COMING OUT OF
13:54:39 THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
13:54:41 SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT A COUPLE OF THINGS OF OUR PROPOSAL,
13:54:46 I THINK HE SAID IT RIGHT, THAT OUT OF THE PROPOSALS THAT YOU
13:54:51 RECEIVED, EVERYONE WAS SAYING WE ARE NOT WILLING TO HAVE ANY
13:54:56 TYPE OF SHARE OF REVENUES WITH THE CITY.
13:55:01 ACTUALLY QUITE THE CONTRARY, THEY WERE ALL ASKING FOR
13:55:04 RESOURCE SOURCES FROM THE CITY.
13:55:06 UNLIKE OURS, WE SPECIALIZE IN PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
13:55:10 WE HAVE DONE IN EXCESS OF A BILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS OVER
13:55:12 THE LAST FIVE, SIX YEARS.
13:55:14 WE HAVE THESE TYPE OF PARTNERSHIPS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
13:55:18 AND ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE DO, AS WE WANT TO MAKE
13:55:21 SURE THAT OUR PUBLIC PARTNER SHARES IN THE UP-SIDE OF OUR
13:55:26 DEVELOPMENTS.
13:55:26 AND WE DO HAVE A REVENUE SHARE PROJECTED AND THAT'S WHY WE
13:55:31 PROFFERED THAT.
13:55:33 SO IN ADDITION TO THE CAPITALIZE STATEMENT, WHERE -- GET
13:55:38 PAID UP FRONT AT THE FINANCIAL CLOSING OF EVERY DEAL, WE
13:55:41 PROFIT, 12½ CASH FLOW PARTICIPATION, THE ESTIMATE IS OVER
13:55:46 $120 MILLION OVER THE BUILD-OUT OF THE PHASES AND THE
13:55:50 BUILD-OUT OF THE PROJECT.
13:55:51 ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON,
13:55:55 WHY WE PROFFER LAND LEASES IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
13:56:00 AS PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS, RATHER THAN A FEE SIMPLE
13:56:10 TRANSACTION TO SAY WE GIVE YOU A CHECK AT CLOSING AND WE
13:56:14 STRUCTURE THE DEALS AS LONG-TERM LEASES AND PROVIDE THAT
13:56:17 REVENUE STREAM TO OUR PUBLIC PARTNERS.
13:56:20 A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT POINTS THAT I THINK -- AND YOU HEARD A
13:56:25 LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM BEFORE WITH SOME OF OUR TEAM
13:56:27 MEMBERS -- IS THE FACT THAT WE FOCUS HEAVILY ON COMMUNITY
13:56:32 ENGAGEMENT.
13:56:33 WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF EXPERTISE, WE DO HAVE
13:56:38 A LOT OF FINANCIAL CAPACITY, WE HAVE THE BEST DESIGN
13:56:43 PROFESSIONALS, ALWAYS WORKING WITH US.
13:56:46 HOWEVER, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T JUST COME AND IMPOSE
13:56:52 OUR WILL IN THESE COMMUNITIES.
13:56:53 IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE DO ON A COLLABORATIVE
13:56:56 BASIS.
13:56:57 THAT'S WHY THE RFP HAS BEEN OVER A YEAR.
13:57:00 SO IT HASN'T COME TO THIS COUNCIL BEFORE.
13:57:02 WHY?
13:57:03 BECAUSE WE TOOK THAT TIME ALONG WITH YOUR CITY STAFF TO HAVE
13:57:06 THOSE OUTREACH MEETINGS, TO HAVE THAT DIALOGUE WITH THE
13:57:08 COMMUNITY, TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE NEEDS, AND THERE MAY BE
13:57:12 THINGS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE PROPOSED THAT THEY LIKED AND A LOT
13:57:14 OF GOOD THINGS THAT WE PROPOSED THAT THEY DISLIKED.
13:57:18 AND AS ROB MENTIONED, JUST AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEK, THE
13:57:21 COMMUNITY HAD SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, AND THAT WAS A GOOD
13:57:24 POINT ON THE HOME OWNERSHIP SIDE, THE 140 IS WORKFORCE.
13:57:29 THE QUESTION WAS, HOW ABOUT IF YOU HAVE TWO TEACHERS, RIGHT?
13:57:32 THEY ARE GOING TO EXCEED THAT 140% OF AMI LEVELS.
13:57:36 HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT?
13:57:38 AND THAT'S WHY YOU SAW ONE OF THOSE CHANGES AS RELATES TO
13:57:40 HOME OWNERSHIP COMPONENT.
13:57:42 SO WE HAVE A MIX OF AFFORDABILITY IN OUR PROPOSAL.
13:57:47 WE ARE PROPOSING TO FINANCE THESE AS 80-20 TAX EXEMPT BOND
13:57:51 TRANSACTIONS.
13:57:52 THAT'S FUNDING THAT'S READILY AVAILABLE AS OF RIGHT.
13:57:55 WE WILL BE APPLYING TO THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HFA, WE
13:58:01 FINANCED MANY OF THOSE DEALS ALREADY ON WEST RIVER LIKE
13:58:03 THAT, SO UNLIKE SOME OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT
13:58:07 ARE STRICTLY LOTTERY BASED, OUR PROPOSAL IS NOT BASED ON
13:58:10 THAT.
13:58:11 THAT'S WHY WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER A PROJECT THAT CAN MOVE
13:58:16 FORWARD.
13:58:16 OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME STEPS THAT STILL NEED TO HAPPEN,
13:58:18 ZONING AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE AGREEMENT AND THOSE THINGS
13:58:21 THAT WILL EVENTUALLY COME BACK TO THIS COUNCIL.
13:58:24 BUT IT'S NOT CONTINGENT UPON SOME TYPE OF LATH LOTTERY BASED
13:58:28 ON THAT SIDE.
13:58:29 AND AGAIN IT'S A MIXED INCOME APPROACH.
13:58:31 THOSE TAX EXEMPT BONDS REQUIRE 20% OF THE PROJECT TO BE SET
13:58:35 ASIDE FOR 50 PERCENT OF THEIR MEDIAN INCOME SO ALL PHASES
13:58:39 WILL HAVE A 50% AMI WHICH IS CATEGORIZED AS LOW INCOME.
13:58:45 WE HAVE ANOTHER 10% OF THE PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE 80% OF
13:58:49 MEDIAN INCOME WHICH IS CATEGORIZED ON THE LOW-INCOME
13:58:53 CATEGORY.
13:58:53 WE HAVE A 40% UP TO 140 PERCENT, IN THAT RANGE BETWEEN 80
13:58:59 AND 140, THAT WORKFORCE BRACKET.
13:59:02 THEN WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE A 30% BRACKET WHICH IS MARKET RATE
13:59:05 UNRESTRICTED.
13:59:06 AND THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE GOING TO
13:59:09 BUILD A PROJECT, AND WITH ALL AMENITIES AND ALL OF THESE
13:59:13 DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT SOMEONE THAT IS WILLING TO PAY FULL
13:59:19 MARKET RATE IS SAYING, THAT'S A COMMUNITY THAT I WANT TO
13:59:23 LIVE IN, BUT ALSO IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF UNIT WITH THE SAME
13:59:26 AMENITIES AND THE SAME ACCESS FOR SOMEONE THAT'S AT A 50% OF
13:59:31 MEDIAN INCOME SPECTRUM.
13:59:32 SO IT WILL ADDRESS A LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS THAT I HEARD
13:59:35 EARLIER TODAY FROM THE PUBLIC AS FAR AS, HEY, EITHER MY
13:59:38 NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN GENTRIFIED AND NOW THEREFORE THERE'S
13:59:42 MARKET FORCES AT WORK THAT ARE PUSHING ME OUT OF MY
13:59:45 NEIGHBORHOOD.
13:59:45 I STILL WANT TO REMAIN HERE.
13:59:47 OR CONVERSELY, YES, WE WANT TO BRING THAT BUT WE ALSO WANT
13:59:50 TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT KIND OF INCOME
13:59:53 DIVERSITY.
13:59:54 THAT'S HOW WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE OUR PROJECTS FEASIBLE.
13:59:56 THAT'S AN APPROACH THAT WE HAVE APPLIED MANY TIMES AND R IN
14:00:00 MANY MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
14:00:02 SO THAT IS A BIG BENEFIT LONG-TERM, NOT JUST FOR THE
14:00:07 COMMUNITY BUT ALSO FOR OUR PUBLIC PARTNERS.
14:00:11 A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY ASSETS THAT WE ARE BUILDING, WE ARE
14:00:14 GOING TO BE BUILDING A CULTURAL CENTER.
14:00:16 THAT'S PART OF OUR AGREEMENT.
14:00:19 WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING A WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER AS
14:00:22 PART OF OUR REDEVELOPMENT, ALONG WITH NUMEROUS OTHER
14:00:27 AMENITIES AND ACTIVITY, AND PETER WILL TOUCH A LITTLE BIT
14:00:31 UPON THOSE.
14:00:32 BUT TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE ARE THE FIRST
14:00:37 DEVELOPER IN TO PROFFER A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT IN
14:00:43 ONE OF OUR DEALS.
14:00:44 THE REASON WHY WE DID THAT IS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO DOCUMENT
14:00:47 THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE.
14:00:50 SO HOW DO WE DO THAT IS AFTER THESE SESSIONS AND AFTER THESE
14:00:54 MEETINGS, WE ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE, PUT THAT IN WRITING,
14:00:59 AND THAT BECOMES OUR PLAYBOOK AS WE EXECUTE THESE
14:01:02 DEVELOPMENTS.
14:01:03 WE WORKED WITH YOUR STAFF, AND AS MENTIONED, IT'S NOT JUST
14:01:08 THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.
14:01:09 THERE'S A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT ATTACHED TO THIS
14:01:13 PIECE, AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR -- LIKE MR. ROBINSON SAY, FOR A
14:01:22 LONG TIME THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR THAT, THAT WE
14:01:25 WILL BE ABLE TO NOW BE ONCE AGAIN THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT
14:01:28 COMPANY TO BE ABLE TO WORK FROM A DOCUMENTED, WRITTEN
14:01:34 COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
14:01:35 AND THEN A COUPLE OF OTHER MAJOR POINTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO
14:01:39 TOUCH UPON, A LOCAL HIRING PIECE, WE HAVE COMMITTED TO 20%
14:01:43 OF LOCAL HIRING AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
14:01:45 AGAIN, IT WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION EARLIER, AND I KNOW
14:01:52 COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS, THE PROGRAM TO TRY
14:01:55 TO DO AN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM TO ADDRESS FOLKS COME OUT OF
14:01:59 THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
14:02:01 I WILL TELL YOU THAT'S ANOTHER INITIATIVE THAT WE ADOPTED
14:02:04 FIRST IN OUR LIBERTY SQUARE REDEVELOPMENT, MIAMI-DADE
14:02:08 COUNTY.
14:02:09 LIKE OTHER PRIVATE COMPANIES, AT THE TIME, WHEN THAT
14:02:13 HAPPENED, ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, WE HAD OUR OWN SETS OF
14:02:17 APPREHENSIONS, RIGHT?
14:02:19 THERE WAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL PITFALLS ON THAT.
14:02:24 BUT I WILL TELL YOU TODAY THAT WE MADE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO
14:02:31 HIRE NOT JUST LOCAL HIRES BUT TO HIRE FOLKS COMING OUT OF
14:02:36 THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND PROBABLY THAT IS THE MOST
14:02:41 IMPACTFUL THING THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO AS PART OF OUR
14:02:44 REDEVELOPMENT.
14:02:45 YES, WE HAVE BUILT HOUSING AND YES, WE HAVE GOT PEOPLE
14:02:48 LIVING IN BRAND NEW JUST LIKE WE ARE DOING ON WEST RIVER,
14:02:51 BUT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IMPACT THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
14:02:53 MAKE WITH THAT OUTREACH AND THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN
14:02:56 SUBSTANTIAL.
14:02:57 SO I WANT TO APPLAUD THIS COUNCIL FOR HAVING THAT PROACTIVE
14:03:01 APPROACH TO THINK ABOUT THOSE ISSUES.
14:03:03 I CAN TELL YOU FIRSTHAND, I WAS A BUSINESS OWNER, THAT IT
14:03:06 WORKS.
14:03:06 IT WORKS.
14:03:07 WE HAVE TAKEN FOLKS THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE BACK TO THE
14:03:11 CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND NOW THEY HAVE NOT A JOB, IT'S
14:03:15 NOT A JOB, IT'S A CAREER, BECAUSE THEY HAVE LEARNED THE
14:03:18 OPPORTUNITY, THEY HAVE LEARNED THE TRADE NOW, AND THEY ARE
14:03:21 NOT JUST WORKING IN THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE, THEY HAVE
14:03:27 ACTUALLY BEEN PERMANENTLY HIRED WITH SUBCONTRACTORS AND NOW
14:03:31 HAVE A CAREER FOR THEIR FUTURE AND TO FEED THEMSELVES
14:03:33 LONG-TERM.
14:03:34 SO THOSE PROGRAMS WORK.
14:03:35 I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD
14:03:40 CONTINUE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT AND PUSH FORWARD, AND WE
14:03:43 WILL GLADLY ALSO WORK ALONGSIDE OF YOU TO HELP PROMOTE THAT.
14:03:48 AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE IS CONTRARY TO SMALL BUSINESSES,
14:03:52 ARE WE COMMITTED TO 40% OF THAT TO SMALL.
14:03:56 40% OF THE VALUE OF OUR CONTRACTS TO GO TO SMALL AND
14:03:59 MINORITY CERTIFIED BUSINESSES.
14:04:00 WE KNOW THAT SMALL BUSINESSES AND MINORITY BUSINESSES HIRE
14:04:04 LOCALLY.
14:04:04 THAT'S A PROVEN FACT.
14:04:05 SO WE WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT YOU DON'T
14:04:11 WANT TO -- THE WORST THING YOU CAN HAVE IS THESE TYPE
14:04:15 REDEVELOPMENTS WHERE YOU ARE BUILDING AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD
14:04:17 IS KIND OF ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, NOT PARTICIPATING IN
14:04:20 THAT REBUILDING FROM THEIR OWN COMMUNITY.
14:04:22 THAT'S WHY WE MADE THAT COMMITMENT.
14:04:24 YOU KNOW, IT PROBABLY EXCEEDS ANYTHING THAT THE CITY OF
14:04:27 TAMPA HAS SEEN BEFORE, AND SOME OF THE CONTRACTS, ELECTRICS,
14:04:36 WE HAVE HAD THOSE BEFORE AND WE EXCEEDED THEM.
14:04:41 SO I JUST THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO WORK
14:04:43 ALONGSIDE YOU AS THE PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNER, AND WE KNOW
14:04:47 THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO BE BRING THE SAME TYPE OF SUCCESS
14:04:50 THAT WE HAVE HAD IN WEST RIVER ALONGSIDE THE CITY NOW WITH
14:04:55 THE DEVELOPMENT.
14:04:56 SO I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO PETER VAN WARREN.
14:05:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A QUESTION.
14:05:03 AGAIN, I HAVE BEEN DOWN TO MIAMI.
14:05:05 MY FAMILY IS DOWN THERE.
14:05:07 I KNOW LIBERTY CITY PROJECT SO I GET IT.
14:05:10 FOR ME IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THAT COMMUNITY -- NO DOUBT.
14:05:18 FOR ME IS MAKING SURE THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE TO COME BACK,
14:05:21 BE ABLE TO WORK.
14:05:23 SO DO WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLAY, OR STAFF HAVE A SYSTEM IN
14:05:27 PLAY TO MONITOR AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE MINORITIES ARE
14:05:30 GETTING A CHANCE TO BE ON THOSE JOB SITES, THAT COUNCIL CAN
14:05:34 BE GETTING UPDATES AND KNOW THE PERCENT OF PEOPLE THAT
14:05:38 WORKING ON THE PROJECT, TO SAY WE HAVE ACTUAL PEOPLE WORKING
14:05:41 ON THE PROJECT THAT LOOK LIKE ME, OR HISPANIC, AND MAKING
14:05:45 SURE THAT WE HAVE MEETING THOSE GOALS SO I DON'T GET CALLS,
14:05:50 WE DIDN'T GET NO WORK.
14:05:51 THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
14:05:52 NUMBER TWO, WE TALK ABOUT THE RETAIL, MAKING SURE, HOW DO WE
14:05:58 KNOW WHAT KIND OF GOALS ARE SET, OR WHAT IS THE CITY PORTION
14:06:02 THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE IN THAT LOW INCOME BRACKET
14:06:06 TO BE ABLE TO MAYBE HAVE A SALON IN THAT RETAIL SPACE, TO BE
14:06:10 ABLE TO WORK THERE AS WELL?
14:06:12 >> SO EXCELLENT POINTS, AND TWO-FOLD.
14:06:18 WE HAVE MONITORED PROVISIONS IN THE AGREEMENT, SO WE WILL BE
14:06:22 DOING REGULAR MONITORING, REPORTING, TO THE CITY, AND THAT
14:06:28 REPORTING WILL BE BROUGHT FORTH THROUGH YOUR NORMAL CHANNELS
14:06:33 TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE COMMITMENTS.
14:06:35 SO THAT'S IN THE AGREEMENT.
14:06:36 I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
14:06:37 BUT ON YOUR SECOND POINT, WHICH IS AN EXCELLENT POINT, AND I
14:06:41 FORGOT TO TOUCH ON IT, WE HAVE AGREED ALSO TO SET ASIDE 10%
14:06:44 OF OUR RETAIL SPACE FOR LOCAL AREA BUSINESSES, AND THAT'S
14:06:49 ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT POINT THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
14:06:52 ADDRESS IN SOME OF OUR OTHER REDEVELOPMENTS, BECAUSE A LOT
14:06:55 OF TIMES YOU HEAR, SAY, WELL, WE HAVE 50,000 SQUARE FEET OF
14:07:00 RETAIL, AND THAT'S GREAT, THAT BRINGS JOBS AND ECONOMIC
14:07:03 DEVELOPMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WHAT HAPPENS, IT'S ALSO
14:07:05 DEPENDENT ON HOW YOU BREAK UP RETAIL, BECAUSE THAT 50,000
14:07:09 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, AND I HAVE TWO TENANTS OF -- WE ARE
14:07:14 BRINGING A PUBLIX TO WEST RIVER, SO THAT'S A GREAT THING FOR
14:07:17 THE AREA.
14:07:18 BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT YOU JUST
14:07:20 RAISED ABOUT HAVING A LOCAL BUSINESS HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY
14:07:22 TO START THEIR BUSINESS.
14:07:24 SO WE ALWAYS WANT TO FOCUS ON SOME OF THAT PIECE AND HAVE
14:07:28 WHAT WE CALL MICRORETAIL, BECAUSE IF WE CAN BREAK THAT UP
14:07:31 INTO SMALLER PIECES, THEN IT'S AN AFFORDABLE RENT THAT
14:07:35 SOMEONE COULD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD START THEIR OWN BUSINESS
14:07:37 IN A NEW SPACE THAT'S MARKETABLE AND ALLOWS THEM TO GROW.
14:07:40 SO YES, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT'S IN OUR AGREEMENT, AND I
14:07:43 FORGOT TO TOUCH ON IT.
14:07:44 SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
14:07:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I APPRECIATE IT.
14:07:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS INFORMATION,
14:07:55 ESPECIALLY ON DIVERSITY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
14:08:00 COME ON BACK.
14:08:01 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: HE'S COMING BACK.
14:08:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOWEVER, IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS
14:08:08 DIVERSITY IN HOUSING, DIVERSITY WHILE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING
14:08:14 ON.
14:08:15 AND I APPLAUD YOU AS BRINGING IN AS MANY BLACK OWNED
14:08:18 BUSINESSES, CONSTRUCTION BUSINESSES, BUT I WANT TO FOCUS ON
14:08:22 THE APPRENTICESHIP WHICH OUR COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA HAS
14:08:29 CHAMPIONED.
14:08:29 I AM HOPING YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S STATE
14:08:32 APPROVED APPRENTICESHIP, NUMBER ONE.
14:08:34 NUMBER TWO, AND I AM HOPING THAT WITHIN THAT APPRENTICESHIP
14:08:37 PROGRAM, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THE WMBEs, THE
14:08:43 BLACK-OWNED -- THE MINORITIES, YOU KNOW, AND THE SAME SCALE.
14:08:49 WITHIN THAT APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.
14:08:51 AND THIS IS JUST AN ASK BUT I AM HOPING IT WILL BE ACHIEVED
14:08:54 DURING THIS.
14:08:55 IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE DIVERSITY IN HOUSING, LET'S HOPE WE
14:08:58 HAVE DIVERSITY IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT.
14:09:01 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT IN ONE OF YOUR POWERPOINT
14:09:07 PRESENTATIONS YOU HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE
14:09:10 CHARGING STATIONS.
14:09:11 THANK YOU.
14:09:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN --
14:09:18 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: MAY I ANSWER JUST A QUESTION?
14:09:24 IN THE AGREEMENTS THAT'S BEFORE YOU THERE ARE A COUPLE OF
14:09:26 THINGS.
14:09:27 COUNCILMAN GUDES BROUGHT UP THE REPORTING OF MINORITY
14:09:30 PARTICIPATION, AND THE SET-ASIDE.
14:09:34 THOSE ARE CODIFIED IN THE AGREEMENTS THAT'S BEFORE YOU.
14:09:37 AND COUNCILMAN CITRO, AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THAT THE
14:09:42 APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS
14:09:44 CODIFIED IN THE AGREEMENT AS WELL TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S
14:09:47 APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM, AND THAT'S BUILT INTO THE AGREEMENT.
14:09:50 AND JUST TO TOUCH, I THINK AT THE BEGINNING OF COUNCILMAN
14:09:54 GUDES' COMMENTS, IN THE AGREEMENT, AND THE SUBSEQUENT PLAN
14:10:03 THAT WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL, THERE ARE MILESTONES IN THE
14:10:06 COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THAT
14:10:08 AGREEMENT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ALL AT THE END OF THE PROJECT.
14:10:12 THEY ARE INCREMENTAL IN ORDER FOR THEM TO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER
14:10:15 PART OF THEIR PHASE.
14:10:17 THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
14:10:19 AGREEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO ACHIEVE AND COMPLETE BEFORE
14:10:22 MOVING ONTO THE OTHER PHASE.
14:10:23 SO WE HAVE BUILT IN THOSE CHECKS AND BALANCES THROUGHOUT THE
14:10:27 PROJECT, AND DETERMINING IF THE PLAN WILL COME BACK BEFORE
14:10:31 COUNCIL.
14:10:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
14:10:35 BUT I AM HOPING THAT LOOKING RIGHT NOW, I CAN SAY, ARE
14:10:39 THESE -- I AM HOPING THAT THESE ARE GOING TO BE
14:10:41 STATE-APPROVED APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS.
14:10:44 AND THOSE APPRENTICES WILL BE SPREAD OUT ACROSS THE SPECTRUM
14:10:49 OF DIVERSITY.
14:10:50 >> YES, SO THAT'S ANOTHER EXCELLENT POINT.
14:10:54 JUST AS I TOUCHED UPON EARLIER, WHEN WE INTRODUCED THIS
14:10:55 PROGRAM FOR THE FOLKS COMING OUT OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
14:10:55 SYSTEM, A LOT OF TIMES THE PROGRAM RULES ARE NOT SET UP TO
14:10:55 HELP THIS POPULATION.
14:11:17 UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
14:11:21 BECAUSE MOST OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE UNSKILLED.
14:11:25 SO IN THE CASE OF HUD PROJECTS, YOU HAVE THESE RULES.
14:11:31 TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THOSE RULES,
14:11:34 WE WENT AND WE GOT OUR OWN STATE CERTIFIED BY THE STATE
14:11:37 DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, RELATED
14:11:41 URBAN HAS ITS OWN SO WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK ALONGSIDE YOUR
14:11:46 PROGRAM TO, SO WE HAVE KIND OF CUT OUR TEETH, IF YOU WILL,
14:11:52 WITH SOME OF THE PITFALLS OF GETTING IT APPROVED, BUT WE
14:11:55 KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO DO IT.
14:11:57 AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT WORKS.
14:11:58 SO WE WILL DEFINITELY BE STATE CERTIFIED, BECAUSE IT'S NOT
14:12:03 JUST -- IT DOESN'T JUST HAVE AN ON-THE-JOB TRAINING PIECE.
14:12:07 THAT'S PART OF IT, WHERE THEY GET, YOU KNOW, THE INCOME
14:12:10 SIDE.
14:12:10 THERE'S ALSO A REQUIRED CLASSROOM COMPONENT.
14:12:13 SO AT THE END OF 3 OR 4-YEAR PERIOD, THEY HAVE A
14:12:17 CERTIFICATION.
14:12:18 AGAIN THAT'S WHY I SAY, WE DON'T REFERENCE THIS AS A JOB.
14:12:21 WE REFERENCE THIS AS A CAREER.
14:12:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
14:12:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
14:12:28 JUST TO PUT DOWN WHAT WE DISCUSSED A LITTLE EARLIER, YOU ARE
14:12:30 GOING TO HAVE TO 954 UNITS, IS THAT RIGHT, OF WHICH 185
14:12:35 UNITS ARE TO BE AT 50 PERCENT AMI AND WHICH 94 UNITS WILL BE
14:12:39 80% OF AMI AND WHICH 368 UNITS, 100% AMI.
14:12:48 954, THAT MEANS YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE 647 UNDER SOMEBODY
14:12:51 FORM OF AMI.
14:12:52 YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE, WHAT, 307 UNITS LEFT AT MARKET RATE,
14:12:56 I GUESS.
14:12:57 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
14:12:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG WITH THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE
14:13:00 ALMOST 30,000 FEET OF COMMERCIAL IN THE WHOLE UNIT.
14:13:07 AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE 3,761 FEET WHERE THE WEST TAMPA
14:13:12 CULTURAL CENTER.
14:13:13 AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE ROUGHLY 19,744 FEET OF SOME TYPE
14:13:17 OF COMMUNITY BENEFIT AREA.
14:13:22 AND ALONG WITH THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE -- COUNCIL WAS
14:13:25 DISCUSSING THE APPRENTICE PROGRAM WHICH IS NEEDED IN MANY
14:13:28 WAYS, AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE OUT OF THAT, YOU ARE GOING
14:13:32 TO HAVE REALLY 307 UNITS LEFT AT MARKET RATE.
14:13:36 THAT'S HOW I SUM THE PROGRAM UP.
14:13:38 IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 16, 135, THAT TALKS ABOUT THE RIVERWALK
14:13:42 AND SO FORTH.
14:13:43 YOU HAVE ANOTHER SEPARATE AGREEMENT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO
14:13:45 HAVE WITH THE CITY.
14:13:45 AM I CORRECT?
14:13:46 >> YES, SIR.
14:13:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S CORRECT.
14:13:48 I RESERVE MY TIME FOR LATER.
14:13:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:13:54 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU TO YOUR SISTER AND BROTHER
14:13:57 COMPANIES FOR ALL THE INVESTMENT YOU HAVE MADE IN TAMPA.
14:14:01 YOU ALL HAVE GOT A HUGE FOOTPRINT IN TAMPA NOW IN LOTS OF
14:14:06 DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGH ALL YOUR DIFFERENT COMPANIES.
14:14:08 THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND THANK YOU OBVIOUSLY FOR THE
14:14:10 INVESTMENT OF TIME YOU HAVE MADE, EVERYTHING YOU ARE TALKING
14:14:12 ABOUT NOW SHOWS YOU HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THE
14:14:15 COMMUNITY AND SOME DEVELOPERS WILL WALK IN AND KIND OF SAY
14:14:20 BULLIED THEM TO ACCEPTING, AND YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME, SO
14:14:25 WE ALL APPRECIATE THAT.
14:14:26 THANKS ALSO TO YOUR COLLEAGUES FOR INVESTING IN THE ARTS.
14:14:29 I KNOW YOU INVEST IN ARTS WHEREVER YOU GO.
14:14:31 YOU HAVEN'T MENTIONED THAT YET.
14:14:32 BUT ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD NOW, I KNOW THERE'S MORE TO COME.
14:14:37 I JUST HAD A CLARIFYING QUESTION.
14:14:40 WAS IT 128 MILLION YOU MENTIONED?
14:14:43 THAT'S THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE, OR
14:14:45 THAT'S THE 12.5% OVER 99 YEARS?
14:14:48 >> THAT'S THE 12.5%.
14:14:50 THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT IS GOING TO EXCEED $400 MILLION.
14:14:53 AT THE TIME OF THE RFP IT WAS 390 MILLION, THE COST COSTS
14:14:58 HAVE INCREASED A LOT SO IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN EXCESS,
14:15:01 PROBABLY AT THIS POINT, IN EXCESS OF 500 MILLION IN ECONOMIC
14:15:04 DEVELOPMENT, AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
14:15:07 BUT OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT, THE 12.5% CASH FLOW
14:15:11 COMPONENT IS PROBABLY GOING TO EXCEED $120 MILLION.
14:15:16 ONCE THE PROJECT IS ALL BUILT OUT.
14:15:18 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
14:15:18 I APPRECIATE YOU THROWING OUT THAT NUMBER.
14:15:20 AND SOUNDS LIKE FROM THE OTHER RFPs YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE
14:15:24 THAT OFFERED THAT SO THAT WILL HELP THE CITY TO DO MANY
14:15:27 OTHER THINGS.
14:15:27 ARE THERE ANY PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS INCLUDED IN THIS, OR
14:15:32 ARE YOU ALL GOING TO BE PAYING PROPERTY TAX?
14:15:37 >> THAT'S JUST CASH FLOW PARTICIPATION.
14:15:40 TAX IS IN ADDITION.
14:15:41 >>BILL CARLSON: SO IN THE 400 MILLION INVESTMENT, WE DON'T
14:15:44 KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTY VALUE WILL BE WORTH, BUT ARE YOU GUYS
14:15:47 GOING TO PAY AD VALOREM ON THE ENTIRE PROPERTY?
14:15:51 >> IN A TYPICAL GROUND LEASE SCENARIO, THERE WILL BE EXEMPT
14:15:56 BECAUSE IT'S STILL GOING TO BE --
14:15:59 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M SORRY, I FORGOT.
14:16:02 THANK YOU.
14:16:02 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:16:04 I WANTED TO ECHO ALSO WHAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES SAID IN
14:16:07 TERMS MUCH JUST HOW HAPPY AND CONTENT THE CITY IS TO BE
14:16:10 PARTNERING UP WITH RELATED AND ALL YOUR BROTHER AND SISTER
14:16:14 GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS.
14:16:16 YOU KNOW, THE VISION THAT YOU PUT FORWARD, I THINK IT REALLY
14:16:19 SPEAKS TO THE ECONOMIC ANXIETY AND DISLOCATION THAT WE HAVE
14:16:22 SEEN IN TAMPA, IN FLORIDA, THROUGHOUT MUCH OF THE UNITED
14:16:25 STATES THROUGHOUT THE MUCH FEW YEARS STARTING WITH COVID AND
14:16:29 THEN THE AFTERMATH OF COVID.
14:16:31 WE ARE SEEING NUMBERS OF LOCALLY, AND IN FLORIDA AND
14:16:34 THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THAT WILL BE FORMALLY WHAT I CALL AN
14:16:37 ATTACK ON THOSE WHO WANT TO STAY IN THE MIDDLE CLASS, AN
14:16:40 ATTACK ON THOSE WHO ARE WORKING HARD EVERY DAY TO BE GET
14:16:43 THEIR FAMILIES INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS AND INTO THE WORKING
14:16:46 CLASS, ET CETERA, WHETHER IT'S INFLATION THAT'S 8%
14:16:49 NATIONALLY, ABOUT 10 OR 11% IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA, 27% IN
14:16:54 INCREASE IN RENT OVER THE LAST YEAR, GAS PRICES AT 4 OR $5
14:16:59 AN HOUR.
14:17:00 FAMILIES ARE FINDING IT HARDER AND HARDER TO GET BY.
14:17:05 BUT HOUSE, WHEN WE SAY THAT HOUSING IS A RIGHT, I ALWAYS
14:17:08 TELL PEOPLE THAT'S NOT SOME RADICAL POLITICAL SLOGAN.
14:17:11 WE SAY THAT COMES OUT OF GEORGE BAILEY AND IT'S A WONDERFUL
14:17:14 LIFE.
14:17:15 THE BUILDING ALONE THAT SAYS IF YOU WORK HARD AND YOU ARE
14:17:18 RAISING A FAMILY AND YOU ARE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND
14:17:20 GET UP EVERY DAY AND GO TO WORK AND PUNCH THE CLOCK AND GO
14:17:24 NINE TO FIVE AND COME HOME TO RAISE YOUR KIDS EVERY DAY,
14:17:26 THAT YOU DESERVE A GOOD HOUSE, IN A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE
14:17:29 YOU CAN RAISE YOUR FAMILY.
14:17:30 AND THIS PROJECT DOES THAT, NOT ONLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE
14:17:34 WORKING HARD TO GET INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS, WORKING CLASS
14:17:38 PEOPLE, LOWER-INCOME FOLKS WHO ARE WORKING HARD EVERY DAY
14:17:42 AND TAKING THOSE HITS, BUT TO OUR MIDDLE CLASS AS WELL, FOR
14:17:46 WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.
14:17:47 WE ASK A LOT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA Y.DON'T OUR POLICE
14:17:50 OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?
14:17:53 YOU KNOW WHY?
14:17:53 BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.
14:17:54 YOU START OFF EARNING 50, $60,000, GOOD LUCK LIVING IN THE
14:17:59 CITY OF TAMPA AND IT'S GETTING WORSE.
14:18:01 IT'S GETTING WORSE.
14:18:02 IF YOU LEARN $75,000, YOUR HOUSEHOLD DOES, I WAS TALKING TO
14:18:07 THE APARTMENT FOLKS, SAYING THAT THE AVERAGE APARTMENT IS
14:18:10 GOING FOR I THINK IT WAS TWO BEDROOM ABOUT $1800, ABOUT 30%
14:18:15 OF YOUR GROSS INCOME BEFORE TAXES, BEFORE CHILD CARE, BEFORE
14:18:18 HEALTH CARE, AND BEFORE GOD KNOWS WHAT.
14:18:21 SO THOSE NUMBERS REALLY COME TOGETHER TO FORM AGAIN AN
14:18:24 ATTACK ON THOSE WHO WANT TO STAY IN THE MIDDLE CLASS AND
14:18:27 ATTACK ON THOSE FIGHTING HARD TO GET INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS.
14:18:30 AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT ALSO I THINK SPEAKS OF THE TAMPA
14:18:34 EXPERIENCE.
14:18:35 YOU ALL HAVE -- DO A LOT OF WORK IN MIAMI.
14:18:38 I HAVE FAMILY IN MIAMI.
14:18:40 AND WE IN A WAY LIKE MIAMI, WE ARE A CITY OF IMMIGRANTS, A
14:18:46 CITY OF REFUGEES.
14:18:47 I THEM ABOUT MY FAMILY WHEN I CAME HERE, MY DAD CAME TO
14:18:50 TAMPA IN 1960 FROM CUBA, MY MOM CAME TO MIAMI IN 1960, AND
14:18:55 WE HAD NOTHING.
14:18:56 WE HAD NOTHING.
14:18:57 BUT IT WAS PROGRAMS AND EFFORTS, THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THINGS
14:19:02 IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, STATE AND LOCAL AND FEDERAL
14:19:05 GOVERNMENT, COMBINED WITH OUR HARD WORK, THAT WOULD MEET US
14:19:07 HALFWAY THERE, TO GET US TO WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY.
14:19:10 SO I GUESS MY SUMMARY IS THAT PROJECTS LIKE THIS ARE SUCH
14:19:15 WONDERFUL PUBLIC PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERSHIPS THAT HELP
14:19:19 PEOPLE ACHIEVE THE AMERICAN DREAM.
14:19:20 AND WE ARE A CITY OF THE AMERICAN DREAM.
14:19:22 SO I THINK TO ME THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I SEE THIS PROJECT ON
14:19:25 A LARGER LEVEL.
14:19:26 SO JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND YOUR
14:19:28 PRESENTATION.
14:19:29 THANK YOU.
14:19:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PETER?
14:19:38 >> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS I DID WANT TO INTRODUCE
14:19:41 PETER, WHO HAS BEEN HANDLING ALL OF THE COMMUNITY
14:19:44 ENGAGEMENTS.
14:19:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
14:19:49 >> MY NAME IS PETER VAN WARNER, A LOCAL HERE.
14:19:53 I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
14:19:54 I WANTED TO ASK YOU ALL, WHY THE DEVELOPERS GET A BAD RAP?
14:20:02 IT'S BECAUSE IN MY OPINION THEY JUST DON'T CARE.
14:20:05 EITHER THEY DON'T CARE, THEY COME IN, THEY DEVELOP, RAISE
14:20:08 WHAT WAS THERE AND IGNORE THE HISTORY, IGNORE THE PEOPLE,
14:20:11 IGNORE THE COMMUNITY.
14:20:12 I CAN TELL YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY, I CARE.
14:20:15 IT STARTS WITH ALBERT CARING.
14:20:16 THAT'S WHY THE COMPANY AND THE ENTIRE TEAM CARES.
14:20:20 WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, OUTREACH EVENTS, THEY
14:20:22 WANTED AN OBSERVATION TOWER WITH BRICK TO BE INDICATIVE OF
14:20:27 THE OLD CIGAR TOWERS IN WEST TAMPA.
14:20:29 WE HAVE A CIGAR TOWER.
14:20:30 WE CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.
14:20:32 WE ARE DOING LEED SILVER.
14:20:33 ALL THE ARCHITECTS HATE MOW BECAUSE I AM REDESIGNING ALL THE
14:20:38 OLD OAK TREES.
14:20:39 WE REALLY CARE.
14:20:40 I THINK YOU WILL SEE THAT'S VERY PLEASANT.
14:20:42 I INVITE ANY OF YOU TO COME OUT AND VISIT WEST RIVER.
14:20:45 I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN THERE, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:20:47 BUT LOOK AT SOME OF THESE RESIDENTS WHEN THEY WALK BACK INTO
14:20:51 THEIR UNITS, COMPLETELY REDONE.
14:20:53 THAT'S WHY I WORK WITH THIS COMPANY.
14:20:54 I CAN TELL YOU WITH ALL MY HEART REALLY, REALLY CARE.
14:20:58 WE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM THAT REALLY CARES.
14:20:59 AND WE ARE READY FOR IT SO WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT.
14:21:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:21:04 YES, SIR.
14:21:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS THERE FOR RIBBON CUTTING, AND IT WAS
14:21:10 VERY IMPRESSIVE, GENTLEMEN.
14:21:11 AND DON'T HAVE TO CARRY YOUR CLOTHES TO THE LAUNDROMAT.
14:21:19 YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT THAT.
14:21:22 YOU CAN'T TELL WHAT APARTMENT BECAUSE THEY ALL LOOK SO NICE.
14:21:30 SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU MAKE.
14:21:33 IT'S THE SAME AMENITIES AS I AM.
14:21:37 WE ARE ALL LIVING IN A PLACE THAT'S NICE AND COMFORTABLE.
14:21:39 SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT.
14:21:41 I AM GLAD THAT YOU TALK ABOUT THE STATE APPRENTICESHIP
14:21:43 PROGRAMS.
14:21:44 I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE A PROGRAM THAT MIRRORS THAT BECAUSE A
14:21:46 LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE CAN'T MEET THAT THRESHOLD EITHER.
14:21:49 SO IT'S LIKE ANYTHING, YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE A FILLER FOR
14:21:53 EACH PROJECT SO I AM GLAD YOU HAVE THAT FEELING TO WHERE WE
14:21:57 WILL BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE ON THE JOB AND BE ABLE TO GET
14:21:59 THEM TRAINED AND HAVE A SKILL AT THE END OF THE DAY SO I AM
14:22:02 GLAD THAT WE HAVE A SECONDARY PROGRAM THAT CAN ALSO HELP AND
14:22:05 MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE AND ANY OTHERS CAN BE PART OF THE
14:22:10 PROJECT, BE ABLE TO EAT, AND APPLY FOR SHELTER THEMSELVES
14:22:15 BECAUSE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE SHELTER THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE
14:22:17 ISSUES AND PROBLEMS IN THE COMMUNITY.
14:22:19 SO I AM GLAD YOU ARE DOING THAT.
14:22:21 I APPRECIATE THAT.
14:22:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
14:22:26 AND I THANK YOU.
14:22:29 YOU HAVE COVERED ALL THE BASES.
14:22:30 AND MOST OF THE BASES, THE BIGGEST CRISIS THAT WE ARE FACING
14:22:34 IS HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, AND YOU ARE COMING IN NOT AT 50
14:22:42 YEARS, YOU ARE COMING IN AT DIFFERENT LEVELS THAT
14:22:44 ACCOMMODATE DIFFERENT INCOMES.
14:22:46 AND WE ARE IN SUCH DEMAND RIGHT NOW AND PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE
14:22:48 WITHIN THE CITY, AND THIS IS IN THE CENTER OR CENTRALLY
14:22:51 LOCATED AND THEY LIVE WITH DIGNITY.
14:22:53 I KNOW THE PRODUCTS THAT YOU PUT OUT AND CONSTRUCT, THEY ARE
14:23:00 HARD QUALITY, THE EFFORTS YOU PUT INTO COMMUNITY OUTREACH,
14:23:03 LISTENING TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.
14:23:05 YOU ARE NOT COMING IN AND GENTRIFYING AND LIKE YOU SAID WHY
14:23:09 DO DEVELOPERS GET A BAD WRAP?
14:23:12 BECAUSE THEY COME IN AND DO WHAT THEY WANT, AT LEAST THE
14:23:14 PERCEPTION TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
14:23:15 YOU ARE COMING IN WITH CARE.
14:23:17 YOU ARE COMING IN LOOKING AT THE DETAILS, LISTENING TO THE
14:23:19 PEOPLE, LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC.
14:23:20 AND COUNCILMAN MEMBER GUDES SAID IT, YOU GO OUT THERE AND
14:23:25 YOU ARE IMPRESSED.
14:23:26 COUNCILMAN VIERA TALKED ABOUT HIS FAMILY COMING HERE FROM
14:23:29 CUBA.
14:23:30 YOU KNOW, COMING WITH NOTHING.
14:23:31 THE SAME STORY WITH MY MOTHER AND MY GRANDPARENTS CAME FROM
14:23:34 CUBA 60 YEARS AGO WITH NOTHING, AND BECAUSE THEY WERE
14:23:38 AFFORDED CERTAIN OPPORTUNITIES AND WHATEVER, WHATNOT, THEY
14:23:41 BUILT THEMSELVES UP.
14:23:44 TAMPA IS GROWING.
14:23:45 MIAMI IS A DIFFERENT STORY.
14:23:48 I GET ANXIETY GETTING OFF I-95 GOING INTO DOWNTOWN BECAUSE
14:23:52 AT LEAST HERE I CAN PULL INTO DOWNTOWN AND FIND A PARKING
14:23:56 SPACE.
14:23:56 THERE, I DON'T KNOW.
14:23:57 BUT LAST TIME I WAS IN MIAMI WAS THERE FOR TWO HOURS AND I
14:24:00 CAME AROUND AND CAME BACK.
14:24:02 I DID WHAT I HAD TO DO.
14:24:03 >> SO NEXT TIME GIVE ME A CALL AND I WILL MAKE SURE YOUR
14:24:08 ANXIETY LEVEL IS --
14:24:11 [ LAUGHTER ]
14:24:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT I THINK IT'S A WORTHY PROJECT.
14:24:14 YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE AREA WELL.
14:24:15 I DRIVE THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME.
14:24:17 I HAVE MY WHOLE LIFE.
14:24:20 IF THIS DOESN'T GO THROUGH, THEN WHAT IS GOING TO TAKE ITS
14:24:23 PLACE?
14:24:23 I UNDERSTAND HOW THE RFP WAS DONE, HOW THE BID WAS DONE, WHY
14:24:26 YOU WERE CHOSEN, HOW CRA DOLLARS WERE NOT ASKED FOR, YOU
14:24:30 CAME IN AND PUT YOUR INVESTMENT AND WHATNOT.
14:24:32 I LIKE THAT AS A 99 YEAR LEASE.
14:24:35 I'M YOUNG BUT I AM NOT GOING TO BE LIVING TO SEE THE END OF
14:24:37 THAT LEASE.
14:24:38 BUT 99 YEAR LEASE WHERE IT IS A TRUE PUBLIC-PRIVATE
14:24:41 PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE IT WILL BE AND WILL STAY
14:24:44 GOVERNMENT-OWNED LAND, WHILE YOU ARE GENERATING YOUR INCOME
14:24:50 BECAUSE YOU ARE HERE TO MAKE MONEY, TOO, BUT AT THE SAME
14:24:52 TIME WE RETAIN OWNERSHIP.
14:24:53 I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
14:24:55 IT'S ALMOST A THOUSAND RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 954, AND 687 WILL
14:25:02 BE INCOME RESTRICTED.
14:25:03 AND WE HAVE A BACKLOG OF INDIVIDUALS.
14:25:05 A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LOOKING FOR HOUSING, DIFFERENT INCOMES,
14:25:08 EVERYTHING IS EXPENSIVE, AND YOU ARE OFFERING THAT CLOSE TO
14:25:12 EVERYTHING, TO THE AMENITIES THAT PEOPLE WANT ALONG THE
14:25:15 RIVER, NEAR THE RIVERWALK, NEAR DOWNTOWN, ON AND ON AND ON.
14:25:18 I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT.
14:25:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST LISTENED TO ALL THE STORIES AND
14:25:23 ALL OF US HAVE BASICALLY THE SAME BACKGROUND.
14:25:26 IN THIS AUDIENCE TODAY CAME FROM SOMEWHERE THAT WAS NOWHERE
14:25:29 50 OR 100 YEARS AGO.
14:25:31 SO ALL OF US SOMEHOW GOT TO THIS POINT.
14:25:33 AND I WAS FORTUNATE THAT I WAS RAISED IN THE CONDOMINIUMS,
14:25:36 BEFORE THE WORD WAS INVENTED.
14:25:38 I COME FROM TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
14:25:39 SO I CONSIDERED CONDOMINIUM, THE WORD WASN'T INVENTED AT
14:25:44 THAT TIME, BUT IT WAS NICE.
14:25:45 I HAD A LOT OF FRIEND.
14:25:46 I HAD A LOT OF KIDS TO PLAY WITH.
14:25:48 AND I HAD A MOTHER AND FATHER THAT TAUGHT ME RIGHT FROM
14:25:51 WRONG, OR MAKE BELIEVE I KNEW ALL THAT.
14:25:54 BUT I WOULD SAY, YES, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
14:25:57 I WAS AN E STUDENT AND MY MOTHER SAID, WHAT IS THIS ABOUT?
14:26:01 AND I SAID EXCELLENTE.
14:26:04 SHE THOUGHT I WAS A GENIUS.
14:26:06 BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
14:26:08 IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE.
14:26:09 AND TAMPA IS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO BE.
14:26:11 AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
14:26:12 I WANT TO THANK YOU, I DO ANYWAY, I'M SURE THE BOARD, I
14:26:15 DON'T KNOW HOW THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE, BUT OF THE THREE THAT
14:26:18 WERE THE FINALISTS YOURS WAS FAR AND ABOVE THE ONE THAT SAT
14:26:22 DOWN AND OFFERED AMENITIES THAT NONE OF THE OTHERS WOULD
14:26:26 EVEN TAKE.
14:26:27 I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
14:26:28 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ANOTHER CLARIFYING YES QUESTIONING AND
14:26:31 MAYBE MORRIS IN LEGAL OR SOMEBODY CAN ANSWER THIS.
14:26:34 I HAVEN'T STUDIED THIS ISSUE BUT I KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY
14:26:39 APPRAISERS HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH LEASES ON PUBLIC
14:26:42 LAND, LIKE IN THE AIRPORT PORT, ABOUT WHETHER PEOPLE HAVE TO
14:26:46 PAY PROPERTY TAX WHEN THEY HAVE LONG-TERM LEASES.
14:26:48 DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE LAW SPECIFICALLY SAYS ABOUT A CITY
14:26:51 LEASING PROPERTY WITH IMPROVEMENTS ON IT?
14:26:55 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES.
14:26:56 THE ONLY -- ONLY THE STATE AND COUNTY ARE REALLY EXEMPT FOR
14:27:00 PROPERTY TAXES FOR NONGOVERNMENTAL USES.
14:27:02 SO EVEN IF THE CITY -- FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE A JEWELRY SHOP
14:27:10 IN THE PUBLIC BUILDING, TAXES HAVE TO BE PAID OH ON THAT.
14:27:13 SO THERE WILL BE PROPERTY TAXES.
14:27:16 THAT'S CORRECT.
14:27:16 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
14:27:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THERE IS NO OTHER FURTHER
14:27:20 QUESTION --
14:27:21 >> MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
14:27:23 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY ONE THING FIRST, PLEASE?
14:27:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
14:27:26 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS WAS -- I BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS
14:27:29 IMPROPERLY NOTICED THIS MORNING, THAT WAS PUT ON THE CONSENT
14:27:32 AGENDA, AND BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE -- IT'S $120 MILLION
14:27:38 CONTRACT PLUS ANOTHER 5 MILLION OR SO.
14:27:42 BUT THE PUBLIC DID NOT HAVE A PROPER CHANCE TO REVIEW THIS
14:27:45 OR LOOK AT IT.
14:27:48 MY COLLEAGUES WILL REMEMBER A FEW MONTHS AGO WE APPROVED THE
14:27:51 HANNA AVENUE PROJECT, WHICH WE THOUGHT IN GOOD FAITH WAS
14:27:54 GOING TO GO FORWARD, NO PROBLEMS.
14:27:56 TWO WEEKS LATER THE PUBLIC CAME BEFORE US AND SAID THAT HAD
14:27:59 THEY BEEN AWARE OF IT THEY WOULD HAVE COME BACK AND GIVEN US
14:28:02 SOME FEEDBACK, AND THAT RESULTED IN US TRYING TO REVOKE THE
14:28:05 CONTRACT OR RESCIND THE CONTRACT AND THEN WE HAD ALL KIND OF
14:28:08 LEGAL PROBLEMS.
14:28:09 ONCE WE IMPROVE THIS, IT'S A DONE DEAL.
14:28:12 WE CAN'T UNDO IT.
14:28:14 MY SUGGESTION AND MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT WE CONTINUE THE
14:28:17 VOTE ON THIS UNTIL MAY 19th TO GIVE THE PUBLIC ONE MORE
14:28:20 CHANCE TO GIVE US FEEDBACK BEFORE WE APPROVE IT AGAIN.
14:28:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER CITRO --
14:28:28 >>BILL CARLSON: SO I MADE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE VOTE ON
14:28:31 THIS UNTIL MAY 19th TO GIVE THE PUBLIC A SECOND CHANCE
14:28:35 TO GIVE PUBLIC FEEDBACK ON IT.
14:28:39 20 AND 21, YES.
14:28:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
14:28:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
14:28:49 BEFORE I GET INTO DEEP WITH THIS.
14:28:51 MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE SAYING THAT THIS WAS NOT PROPERLY
14:28:54 NOTICED TO THE PUBLIC?
14:28:55 >>BILL CARLSON: IT WHATS NOT NOTICED AS A REGULAR AGENDA
14:28:58 ITEM RATHER THAN A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.
14:29:00 A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM SHOULD BE LESS THAN 3 MILLION.
14:29:03 THIS IS ABOUT $125 MILLION PLUS OR MINUS CONTRACT THAT
14:29:06 SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON A SEPARATE SECTION, HAD IT BEEN IN A
14:29:09 SECTION THAT REQUIRES LARGE ITEMS, IT'S POSSIBLE MORE PEOPLE
14:29:13 IN THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE SHOWN UP.
14:29:14 WE SAW IN THE HANNA AVENUE CASE THAT WE THOUGHT WE HAD
14:29:18 COMPLETE INFORMATION, BUT TWO WEEKS LATER THE PUBLIC CAME TO
14:29:20 US AND SAID THERE WERE ALL KIND OF CONCERNS ABOUT IT.
14:29:23 SO MY SUGGESTION IS NOT TO VOTE AGAINST THIS, BUT TO JUST
14:29:27 CONTINUE THE VOTE ON IT FOR A COUPLE WEEKS, JUST SO WE GET
14:29:30 ONE MORE CHANCE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SHOW UP. IF NOBODY SHOWS
14:29:33 UP THEN WE VOTE ON IT AND MOVE FORWARD.
14:29:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE OR OUT OF
14:29:38 COMPLIANCE FOR THIS BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A VOTE TODAY?
14:29:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE IN COMPLIANCE.
14:29:42 THIS MEETING WAS PROPERLY NOTICED.
14:29:43 IT WAS ON THE AGENDA.
14:29:44 BACKUP MATERIALS SUCH AS IT IS WAS AVAILABLE.
14:29:49 AND YOU DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE.
14:29:53 COUNCILMAN MEMBER CARLSON IS CORRECT, AND THAT DID COME UP
14:29:56 RECENTLY WITH A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC
14:29:58 ABOUT, THAT PURCHASE SUPERINTENDENT TO THE CHARTER, YOU
14:30:03 AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE CONTRACT.
14:30:06 AND THE MAYOR SIGNS THE CONTRACT.
14:30:08 IT IS THEN THE CONTRACT THAT CONTROLS.
14:30:10 THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE JURISDICTION, LET'S SAY, OVER
14:30:15 THE MATTER TO RECONSIDER.
14:30:17 SO WITH REGARD TO ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE CONSENT DOCKET THAT
14:30:20 REQUIRES THE MAYOR SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL BY RESOLUTION, ONCE
14:30:24 YOU GIVE IT, THEN ONCE THAT CONTRACT IS SIGNED, YOU ARE
14:30:29 EFFECTIVELY, I GUESS, THE WORD WOULD BE HE IS STOPPED TO
14:30:33 PREVENT CITY COUNCIL FROM DOING ANYTHING.
14:30:34 >>BILL CARLSON: SO THIS HAS GONE ON FOR MORE THAN A YEAR OF
14:30:38 DISCUSSION SINCE THE RFP WAS APPROVED, EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T
14:30:42 APPROVE IT.
14:30:43 BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT DOESN'T HURT ANYTHING TO WAIT TWO
14:30:45 MORE WEEKS TO SEE IF THE PUBLIC HAS ANY MORE FEEDBACK ON IT
14:30:48 BECAUSE I THINK MOST PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC AREN'T EVEN AWARE
14:30:52 WE COVERED IT.
14:30:53 THERE'S BEEN NO MEDIA COVERAGE.
14:30:56 >>MORRIS MASSEY: IT WAS NOTICED.
14:30:57 IT WAS PROPERLY NOTICED.
14:30:58 AND YOU ALL CAN ACT ON IT TODAY LEGALLY IN MY OPINION, AND I
14:31:02 THINK MR. SHELBY SUPPORTS THAT.
14:31:04 RELATIVE TO WHETHER IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER THE STAFF
14:31:06 REPORTS INITIALLY OR NOT, TYPICALLY, UNDER ONE OF YOUR
14:31:11 MOTION, IF THE CITY IS PAYING MORE THAN $3 MILLION, IT'S
14:31:14 SUPPOSED TO BE UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
14:31:15 PART OF THE ISSUE HERE IS WE ARE NOT PAYING ANYTHING.
14:31:18 WE ARE RECEIVING MONEY.
14:31:19 AND IT'S HARD TO ESTIMATE WHAT THAT AMOUNT WAS, FRANKLY.
14:31:25 THE STAFF, A ADMINISTRATION ITSELF, DECIDED TO PULL IT OFF
14:31:29 OF THE CONSENT AGENDA SO IT WOULD BE PUT UNDER STAFF REPORTS
14:31:32 SO YOU COULD HAVE A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MATTER.
14:31:36 SO THAT WAS DONE BY THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE.
14:31:38 I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
14:31:40 AND I KNOW YOU HAD PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING, RELEVANT TO
14:31:46 COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S POINT.
14:31:48 THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO
14:31:51 ADDRESS YOU ALL SO IF YOU WANT TO --
14:31:54 >>> MOTION TO WAIVE THE RULES FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
14:31:57 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:31:59 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:32:01 MR. EDWARD.
14:32:02 >> THANK YOU.
14:32:07 THE INVITATION WAS WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK THIS AFTERNOON.
14:32:12 ROBERT PETE EDWARD.
14:32:13 I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO CONTINUE THIS.
14:32:15 THEY NEED TO REWORK SOME OF THE AGREEMENT.
14:32:17 LET ME GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE.
14:32:19 IF YOU REMEMBER IN THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, THEY HAD
14:32:21 TALKED ABOUT THE WEST END PROJECT, EVEN TALKED ABOUT OPENING
14:32:24 UP ALL THE WAY TO THE ROAD.
14:32:27 BUT -- ALL THE WAY TO THE END, THAT THE PREVIOUS
14:32:30 ADMINISTRATION HAD TOOK THE LEAD OVER THE SCHOOL BOARD
14:32:34 RESPONSIBILITY TO SELL ALL THE SCHOOLS OFF THE RIVER, AND IT
14:32:38 FINALLY CAME OUT, VERIFIED IN THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES" AND THE
14:32:41 TAMPA TRIBUNE.
14:32:43 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AGREEMENT THIS MORNING, THIS
14:32:46 AFTERNOON, IT TALKS ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES, WHICH INCLUDE THE
14:32:49 SCHOOLS NORTH OF THE RIVER.
14:32:50 AND I FIND IT INTERESTING, AND THE CITY -- IT KIND OF THREW
14:32:58 EVERYBODY FOR A LOOP WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT THE SCHOOLS.
14:33:01 SO I ASKED A LAWYER FRIEND OF MINE TO TELL ME WHAT WOULD
14:33:05 STOP THE CITY FROM, IF THEY ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH
14:33:08 THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE COUNTY, TO EXPAND THE SCHOOLS, IF
14:33:17 THEY OBTAINED THE PROPERTY OR WHATEVER, WOULD THEY HAVE TO
14:33:19 COME BACK TO THE PUBLIC AND GET ANOTHER, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
14:33:25 AND THEN THE QUESTION I HAVE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, HAVE
14:33:28 THEY HAD ANY DISCUSSION WITH THE OTHER TWO GOVERNMENT
14:33:30 ENTITIES, SO WE WON'T BE EMBARRASSED LIKE WE WERE THE LAST
14:33:33 TIME TO FIND OUT THAT WE HAD THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION,
14:33:37 AND IT'S ON RECORD THAT THEY FINALLY ADD MATED THAT THEY
14:33:39 WERE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE TO SELL ALL THREE SCHOOLS OFF THE
14:33:43 RIVER WITHOUT TELLING ANYBODY, INCLUDING SCHOOL BOARD
14:33:45 MEMBERS.
14:33:46 SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY -- I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF
14:33:50 DEVELOPER, HAVE YOU ALL HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE LOCAL
14:33:53 GOVERNMENTS TO EXPAND THIS AGREEMENT SO TRANSFER OF PROPERTY
14:33:59 WITHOUT COMING BACK?
14:34:01 NOW THAT'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION.
14:34:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MASSEY?
14:34:05 >> AND SECOND OF ALL, IF YOU HAD A DISCUSSION, OR IF YOU
14:34:09 WOULD HAVE A LATER DISCUSSION, WOULD COUNCIL BE IN A
14:34:11 POSITION TO CONTROL, OR ONCE THEY VOTE ON A RESOLUTION
14:34:15 TODAY, YOU COME BACK AND SAY APPLY TO LEGAL WE CAN DO
14:34:19 WHATEVER WE WANT TO NOW BECAUSE OF THE BALANCE?
14:34:21 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I WILL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THOSE.
14:34:23 THIS AGREEMENT APPLIES ONLY TO THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
14:34:26 IT US WHAT NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE SCHOOLS.
14:34:28 THERE THERE'S BEEN NO DISCUSSION ABOUT INCLUDING THE SCHOOLS
14:34:31 IN THIS AGREEMENT.
14:34:32 AT POLICE SOLELY TO THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
14:34:34 AND IF THERE IS ANY FUTURE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD INVOLVE THE
14:34:36 SCHOOLS IN THE VICINITY OF THIS PROJECT, THAT WOULD HAVE TO
14:34:40 COME BACK BEFORE THIS BODY FOR APPROVAL.
14:34:43 IT CANNOT BE DONE UNILATERALLY WITHOUT BECOMING TO THE
14:34:47 BOARD.
14:34:47 >> THEN CHANGE THE AGREEMENT TO REFLECT THAT NO SUCH TIME IS
14:34:51 THIS INCLUSIVE OF OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES THAT ARE NORTH
14:34:55 OF SPRUCE.
14:34:57 THAT'S THE RIGHT WAIT TO DO IT.
14:34:58 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE AGREEMENT IS SOLELY BETWEEN THE
14:35:01 DEVELOPER AND SO WE CANNOT BIND OTHER GOVERNMENTAL BODIES
14:35:05 WITHOUT THEIR APPROVAL.
14:35:06 THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE DOCUMENT WHICH
14:35:09 IS CONTROLLING IS THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPERTY THE
14:35:12 CITY OWNS ONLY.
14:35:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:35:14 >> TRUST IN ALL THAT.
14:35:17 SO WHY WOULDN'T THEY DO THAT JUST IN THE BEST INTEREST OF
14:35:19 UNITING THIS COMMUNITY AND MOVING FORWARD?
14:35:21 I AM NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT.
14:35:22 THE QUESTION I HAVE IS THE WAY THEY DID IT UNDER THE
14:35:24 PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, A LOT OF COUNCIL DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT
14:35:30 IT, THEY DENIED IT.
14:35:32 IT THEY DENIED IT TILL THE END OF THE LAST MEETING FIGURED
14:35:36 OUT WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH RIVERFRONT PARK.
14:35:39 IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HIDE JUST PUT IN THE THERE AND
14:35:42 THEN THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THIS COMMUNITY GOES FORWARD,
14:35:46 WE DON'T NEED THE LEGAL JARGON.
14:35:49 HOW ABOUT DOING IT IN THE COMMON SPIRIT AND COUNCILMAN
14:35:52 SENSE?
14:35:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:35:54 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:35:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS THIS WILL GO TO MS. TRAVIS AND TO
14:35:59 ALBERT.
14:36:01 ARE WE IN A TIME CRUNCH?
14:36:03 I NEED TO KNOW THAT, BECAUSE IF TWO WEEKS DELAY TO JUST MAKE
14:36:08 SURE -- WE HAD SO MUCH CHAOS WITH OTHER PROJECTS RECENTLY.
14:36:12 I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION, I LIKE THE PROJECT AND I
14:36:15 HAVE GOT TO SIT BACK AND WAIT -- I WOULD RATHER, IF WE NEED
14:36:20 TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS OPEN AND
14:36:23 TRANSPARENT, THEN LET'S DO THAT.
14:36:25 BUT ARE WE IN A TIME CONSTRAINT, OR WILL IT -- MAKE SURE WE
14:36:29 DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
14:36:30 >> AND LET ME ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.
14:36:32 THE ANSWER IS YES, TWO WEEKS WILL HURT.
14:36:34 AND I WILL GIVE YOU AN APPROPRIATE EXAMPLE.
14:36:38 WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR PHONES NOW AND YOU GOOGLE AND YOUR
14:36:43 TREASURY BILL IN MARCH YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THAT THE TEN
14:36:45 YEAR TREASURY HAS MOVED OVER 100 POINTS WHICH DIRECTLY
14:36:49 AFFECTS INTEREST RATES.
14:36:51 IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN APRIL, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THAT IT'S
14:36:54 MOVED MORE THAN HALF A POINT.
14:36:56 SO THAT'S AN UNPRECEDENTED INCREASE IN RATES.
14:37:03 AND FOR ANYONE TO THINK THAT RATES DON'T HAVE A DIRECT
14:37:06 CORRELATION TO IMPACTING PROJECTS IS NAIVE.
14:37:12 SO THE ANSWER IS, ABSOLUTELY, YES, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
14:37:17 YOU HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC EARLIER ABOUT RENT INCREASES,
14:37:20 INTEREST RATES CONTINUE TO RISE, CONSTRUCTION COSTS CONTINUE
14:37:24 TO RISE.
14:37:25 SO DEFINITELY TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
14:37:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MASSEY, TO MR. EDWARDS' QUESTIONS, TO
14:37:33 HIS POINT, COULD THAT BE ACCOMPLISHED WHAT HE'S TALKING
14:37:38 ABOUT OR IS IT BACK TO YOUR POINT, YOU JUST CAN'T DO THAT?
14:37:42 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I CAN TELL YOU WITHOUT EQUIVOCATION THAT
14:37:45 THIS AGREEMENT APPLIES SOLELY TO THE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY.
14:37:48 IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE SCHOOLS.
14:37:49 FANNED THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY AGREEMENT THAT AFFECT THE
14:37:52 SCHOOLS ADJACENT OR NEARBY TO THIS PROJECT, IT HAS TO COME
14:37:55 BEFORE THIS BODY.
14:37:57 WE CANNOT FIND THE SCHOOL BOARD.
14:37:58 WE CANNOT BIND THE COUNTY.
14:38:00 WE CANNOT COMBINED ANY GOVERNMENTAL ENTICE OR ANY OTHER
14:38:04 ENTITY WHO IS NOT PARTY TO THE AGREEMENT.
14:38:07 THE SOLE PARTIES ARE RUDG-LLC, CITY OF TAMPA, AND BOTH
14:38:14 AGREEMENTS ARE THE PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF
14:38:16 TAMPA AND NO OTHER PROPERTY.
14:38:18 AND I WILL SWEAR ON A STACK OF BIBLES.
14:38:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO GOVERNMENT CAN BIND ANOTHER
14:38:27 GOVERNMENT WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF ANYBODY, PERIOD, ONE WAY OR
14:38:29 THE OTHER.
14:38:31 AND, YOU KNOW, I AM NOT THE SMARTEST GUY OR THE SHARPEST
14:38:37 KNIFE IN THE DRAWER, BUT I AM NOT WAITING ANOTHER DAY.
14:38:40 I KNOW WHAT MONEY COSTS.
14:38:41 I KNOW WHAT THINKS COST.
14:38:44 I KNOW WHAT A TWO BY FOUR COST YEARS AGO.
14:38:47 AND IT'S TEN TIMES THE AMOUNT.
14:38:53 I AM NOT USING THAT AS AN EXCUSE.
14:38:55 THIS IS ON THE AGENDA, WHETHER IT'S ON PAGE 5 OR PAGE 6.
14:38:57 9 WAS THERE.
14:38:58 WHETHER IT WAS IN ONE AREA OR THE OTHER AREA, THIS COUNCIL
14:39:02 HAD A VOTE ON IT NO MATTER WHICH AREA IT WAS IN, WHETHER IN
14:39:07 A, B OR C.
14:39:08 SO LET'S CLEAR THAT OUT.
14:39:10 WE GOT ELECTED TO VOTE.
14:39:13 IF YOU WANT TO SAY I DID SOMETHING WRONG, COME SEE ME V.THE
14:39:17 FBI, CIA, ANYBODY COME SEE ME, BECAUSE I AM NOT AFRAID
14:39:20 BECAUSE I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG.
14:39:22 SO LET ME CLEAR THAT OUT ALSO.
14:39:25 I NEVER GOT A CONTRIBUTION OR ASKED FOR CONTRIBUTION FROM
14:39:28 ANYBODY HERE.
14:39:28 NEVER.
14:39:29 AND I DON'T INTEND TO EVER TO DO THAT.
14:39:32 SO I AM NOT DOING IT FOR ANYTHING IN MY BENEFIT.
14:39:37 I AM BORN ALONE.
14:39:38 I DIE ALONE.
14:39:39 AND I AM GOING TO VOTE ALONE.
14:39:44 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
14:39:45 >>BILL CARLSON: MY MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR.
14:39:49 CAN WE JUST RECORD WHETHER I GOT A SECOND OR NOT?
14:39:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION TO
14:39:53 CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO MAY 19th?
14:39:56 IS THERE A SECOND NOW?
14:39:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL GIVE YOU A SECOND.
14:40:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION.
14:40:05 MAY.
14:40:06 >>CHAIRMAN: MAY I COMMENT ON IT SINCE WE ARE GOING TO VOTE?
14:40:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:40:12 NUMBER ONE, THIS WAS NOTICED.
14:40:14 I HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME, AS
14:40:17 LONG AS I THINK EVERYONE ELSE HAS, AND IF THERE IS, BECAUSE
14:40:20 YOU KNOW HANNA WAS BROUGHT UP. IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT
14:40:23 IS KNOWN, RIGHT?
14:40:25 THEN WE SHOULD PROBABLY SAY HERE TODAY.
14:40:27 IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE ARE SAYING WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER
14:40:29 SIMILAR ISSUE TO COME UP LIKE HANNA, IF THERE IS SOMETHING
14:40:32 THAT'S KNOWN, WE SHOULD ALL KNOW ABOUT IT RIGHT HERE TODAY.
14:40:35 TO THE EXTENT THAT -- AND AGAIN I APPRECIATE AND RESPECT
14:40:39 COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION, BUT I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY
14:40:42 BE BAD FOR US TO HAVE EVERYONE HERE.
14:40:46 WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION AND GO, HEY, LISTEN, LET'S WAIT
14:40:50 ANOTHER TWO WEEKS, BECAUSE IT WAS A BAD EXPERIENCE SOME TIME
14:40:53 AGO.
14:40:53 I JUST RESPECTFULLY CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.
14:40:55 AND I DO MEAN RESPECTFULLY.
14:40:57 THANK YOU.
14:40:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
14:40:59 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
14:41:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
14:41:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.
14:41:04 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
14:41:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
14:41:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
14:41:09 >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
14:41:11 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:41:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
14:41:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
14:41:16 >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH MANISCALCO, VIERA, CITRO,
14:41:20 MIRANDA, HURTAK AND GOODS VOTING NO.
14:41:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO HAS MOVED THE
14:41:24 SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
14:41:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT WAS MY COMMITTEE.
14:41:27 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IT.
14:41:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
14:41:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE ITEM NUMBER 20, SUBSTITUTE
14:41:32 MOTION, AND DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT?
14:41:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
14:41:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS
14:41:43 CROSSED.
14:41:43 SO I JUST MOVED THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20.
14:41:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY CITRO.
14:41:47 >>BILL CARLSON: THE PROJECT SOUND GREAT.
14:41:50 I AM VOTING AGAINST IT BECAUSE I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS MORE
14:41:52 TIME TO -- IT WILL PROBABLY ARE A 6-1 VOTE BUT I THINK THE
14:41:58 PUBLIC NEEDS MORE TIME TO WEIGH IN AND WE NEED MORE TIME,
14:42:02 AND TWO WEEKS A YEAR AND A MONTH OF WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.
14:42:05 I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD TWO MORE WEEKS TO BE LOOK AT
14:42:08 IT, AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTICED IN A MORE
14:42:11 TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE WAY, AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
14:42:15 SO I AM JUST GOING TO VOTE NO FOR THAT REASON, NOT BECAUSE I
14:42:18 AM AGAINST THE PROJECT.
14:42:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:42:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND MR. CARLSON'S POINT.
14:42:25 ISM GOING TO VOTE YES ON THE PROJECT.
14:42:27 BUT I THINK GOING FORWARD, THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO LOOK AT THE
14:42:31 RFP PROCESS, AND MAYBE COUNCIL NEEDS TO CHANGE THE PROCESS
14:42:37 SO WE DON'T GO DOWN THESE ROADS, WE ARE GETTING SOME LARGE
14:42:41 PROJECTS NOW, PUBLIC IS ASKING SOME QUESTIONS.
14:42:43 I THINK FOR TRANSPARENCY IN THE FUTURE WE NEED TO LOOK TO
14:42:48 MAYBE CHANGE THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD.
14:42:50 BUT I WILL VOTE ON THE PROJECT FOR TODAY.
14:42:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
14:42:57 >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE, IT SOUND LIKE A BETTER PROCESS FOR
14:43:00 THESE LARGER PROJECTS THAT HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST FROM THE
14:43:02 PUBLIC.
14:43:05 BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHERE EVERYONE IS COMING FROM, AND HOW
14:43:08 LONG THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN WORKED ON, AND I UNDERSTAND THE
14:43:11 MONEY, SERIOUSNESS.
14:43:14 IT DOES SOUND LIKE A GOOD PROJECT, BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT
14:43:20 THE PUBLIC DIDN'T GET AS MUCH OF A VOICE AS THEY MIGHT HAVE.
14:43:27 SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
14:43:28 BUT IT SOUND LIKE A GREAT PROJECT.
14:43:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:43:35 AND THE BID WAS CHOSEN, YOU WERE CHOSEN FOR THE REASONS YOU
14:43:40 HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.
14:43:41 I THINK OUT WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE OTHER BIDDERS.
14:43:43 I THINK YOU WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
14:43:48 JUST THE NUMBERS IN ITSELF OF WHAT'S AFFORDABLE AND WHAT'S
14:43:51 MARKET RATE, ESPECIALLY IN THIS CLIMATE, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING
14:43:55 FOR AFFORDABLE, EVERY DAY THAT CONVERSATION IS ABOUT
14:43:58 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HERE IN THE CENTER OF THE CITY, THE
14:44:02 AMENITIES, THE QUALITY OF CONSTRUCTION, QUALITY OF LIVE,
14:44:04 PEOPLE WILL BE LIVING IN DIGNITY.
14:44:06 I CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON.
14:44:07 SO I AM GOING TO BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
14:44:09 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:44:11 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
14:44:13 ROLL CALL.
14:44:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:44:17 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:44:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:44:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:44:21 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
14:44:22 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
14:44:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:44:25 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE SUBSTITUTE
14:44:28 FOR 21 AS WELL?
14:44:30 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
14:44:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
14:44:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 21, THE SUBSTITUTE, AND THE
14:44:44 SUBSTITUTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR THAT FILE, I MOVE
14:44:50 THAT MOTION.
14:44:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
14:44:53 ROLL CALL.
14:44:53 >>BILL CARLSON: ALTHOUGH I WOULD HAVE VOTED ALSO TO
14:45:00 CONTINUE THIS ONE SINCE THE FIRST ONE WAS APPROVED I WILL
14:45:03 VOTE YES ON THIS ONE.
14:45:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:45:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:45:08 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
14:45:09 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:45:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:45:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:45:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:45:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE AGAIN ON 20.
14:45:19 I BELIEVE IN MY OWN -- I DID NOT SAY THE FILE NUMBER AND I
14:45:23 WANT THE RECORD TO BE 100%.
14:45:25 SO I WOULD LIKE A REVOTE ON ITEM NUMBER 20.
14:45:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S YOUR WISH.
14:45:29 GO AHEAD, SIR.
14:45:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO REFILE NUMBER 20 WHICH
14:45:33 IS FILE F-22-74004.
14:45:37 I MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION ON ITEM NUMBER 20.
14:45:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
14:45:42 ROLL CALL.
14:45:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:45:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:45:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:45:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:45:46 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
14:45:47 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
14:45:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:45:51 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
14:45:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:45:54 THAT'S IT.
14:45:55 ITEM NUMBER 41.
14:45:57 AND MOVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
14:46:03 MOTION FROM COUNCIL MIRANDA, SECOND BY CITRO.
14:46:07 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:46:08 ANY OPPOSED?
14:46:09 ITEM NUMBER 41.
14:46:18 DO YOU NEED A RECESS OR ANYTHING?
14:46:19 NO.
14:46:20 GO AHEAD.
14:46:20 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
14:46:23 ITEM NUMBER 41 IS BEFORE YOU FOR PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR THE
14:46:27 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5710 NORTH MIAMI AVENUE.
14:46:32 THE PETITIONER FILED A REVIEW FOR A SPECIAL USE APPLICATION
14:46:38 THAT WAS REQUESTING FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
14:46:44 STAFF DENIED THE APPLICATION OF JANUARY 24 OF 2022 ON THE
14:46:50 BASIS THAT THE APPLICATION DID NOT MEET THE CRITERIA SET
14:46:52 FORTH IN CODE SECTION 27-132.
14:46:57 REMEMBER, CITY COUNCIL, YOU JUST PROVIDED COPIES OF THE
14:47:01 RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS WHICH IS CODE SECTIONS 27-132, 27-129
14:47:06 AND 27-30.
14:47:08 I ALSO PROVIDED THE SAMPLE MOTIONS, AND THE RULINGS OF
14:47:12 PROCEDURE FOR THIS REVIEW HEARING.
14:47:15 THE STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THE PETITION FOR REVIEW THIS
14:47:19 AFTERNOON IS GOVERNED BY CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBSECTION J
14:47:25 SUBSECTION 3.
14:47:27 THAT SECTION MEANS THAT CITY COUNCIL CONDUCT A DE NOVO
14:47:30 STANDARD OF REVIEW WHICH MEANS THAT YOU CAN ACCEPT
14:47:33 TESTIMONY, PUBLIC COMMENT, AND MAKE YOUR DECISION TO
14:47:38 DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICANT OR THE PETITIONER
14:47:42 MEETS THE RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS FOR THIS APPLICATION.
14:47:49 STAFF, WHO IS GOING TO PRESENT STAFF'S FINDING, AND THE
14:47:52 REASON FOR THE STAFF DECISION IS LAURA MARLEY.
14:47:56 AFTER YOU CONDUCT -- COLLECT ALL THE EVIDENCE IN THIS CASE,
14:48:02 CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE A COUPLE OF ACTIONS.
14:48:05 YOU CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, AND
14:48:08 DENY THE SPECIAL USE APPLICATION, OR YOU CAN OVERTURN THE
14:48:13 DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, AND THEREBY GRANT THE
14:48:18 SPECIAL USE APPLICATION, AND WITH THAT I WILL TURN THE
14:48:21 PRESENTATION OVER TO MS. MARLEY.
14:48:25 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
14:48:29 LAURA MARLEY, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
14:48:32 I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN.
14:48:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
14:48:35 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
14:48:36 >> COULD I SHARE MY SCREEN?
14:48:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL
14:48:47 RECEIVED AND FILED ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS SUBJECT TO
14:48:50 FLORIDA STATUTES 286-0115 AND IF THERE'S ANY VERBAL EX PARTE
14:48:55 COMMUNICATIONS PLEASE DISCLOSE THEM NOW.
14:48:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING?
14:49:01 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND BY
14:49:04 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:49:04 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:49:07 AYE.
14:49:07 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
14:49:17 >> CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
14:49:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
14:49:28 GO AHEAD.
14:49:29 >> THIS APPLICATION WAS SPECIAL USE 12204 FOR PROPERTY
14:49:33 ADDRESS 5710 NORTH MIAMI AVENUE.
14:49:37 THE REQUEST FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
14:49:39 THIS IS THE OVERALL AREA LOCATED IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
14:49:44 THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOOKING FROM MIAMI.
14:49:48 AND THIS IS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE LOOKING FROM EAST HENRY
14:49:52 AVENUE.
14:49:56 THIS IS A PHOTO FROM EAST HENRY AVENUE.
14:49:59 THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY AND THIS IS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE
14:50:02 IN QUESTION.
14:50:04 AND THESE ARE THE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING
14:50:07 UNIT.
14:50:08 THEY ARE -- THE APPLICANT IS GOING MEET ALL OF THEM WITH THE
14:50:11 EXCEPTION OF C, WHICH AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT MAY BE
14:50:16 DESIGNED TO BE LOCATED WITHIN A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING WITH
14:50:18 A SEPARATE ENTRANCE OR IN A CONFORMING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
14:50:22 HOWEVER, IT MAY NOT BE LOCATED IN A NONCONFORM ACCESSORY
14:50:25 STRUCTURE OR CONFORM AS A RESULT OF A VARIANCE.
14:50:29 THE PROPOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WILL BE LOCATED IN AN
14:50:33 EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM
14:50:36 REQUIRED SETBACKS, AS REQUIRED BY CODE, AND THEREFORE
14:50:39 NONCONFORMING.
14:50:41 A SIDE STREET SETBACK OF 3 FEET IN THE REAR, SETBACK OF 3
14:50:44 FEET IS REQUIRED, THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE DOES NOT
14:50:48 COMPLY WITH EITHER REQUIREMENT, AND THE REQUEST IS A ZERO
14:50:52 FOOT SETBACK FOR THE STREET AND SIDE SETBACKS.
14:50:55 AND HERE IS SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY, THE EXISTING
14:51:00 SINGLE-FAMILY AND THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
14:51:03 AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ARE ON THE PROPERTY LINE ON HENRY AND
14:51:07 ON THE PROPERTY LINE WHICH IS CONSIDERED THE REAR.
14:51:11 THE REQUIRED IS 3 FEET.
14:51:13 THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH ZERO FEET.
14:51:15 AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
14:51:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
14:51:19 NO?
14:51:20 YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
14:51:21 WERE YOU SWORN IN?
14:51:23 OKAY, GOOD.
14:51:24 GO AHEAD.
14:51:26 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
14:51:27 >>JAIME MAIER: JAIME MAIER REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT FROM
14:51:30 THE LAW FIRM HILL, WARD, HENDERSON, 101 EAST KENNEDY
14:51:33 BOULEVARD, SUITE 3700 TAMPA, AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
14:51:37 I AM JUST GOING TO SWITCH OVER TO PC TO SHOW A PowerPoint.
14:51:53 IF I CAN GET THE COMPUTER TO WORK.
14:51:54 >>JAIME MAIER: SORRY, EVERYBODY.
14:53:19 THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
14:53:20 OKAY.
14:53:22 SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR, AS STAFF EXPLAINED, A REQUEST FOR
14:53:27 A WAIVER TO A SINGLE CRITERION IN THE SPECIALTY USE FOR
14:53:31 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS SET OF CRITERIA, SPECIFICALLY TO
14:53:35 ALLOW AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IN A NONCONFORMING
14:53:39 STRUCTURE.
14:53:39 BY WAY OF BACKGROUND THE APPLICANTS LIVE IN A HOME, THE
14:53:42 PRIMARY HOME STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN THE 1920S, THE ACCESSORY
14:53:46 STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN 1930s, AND OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD WAS
14:53:49 PLATTED ALSO IN EARLY 1900, I BELIEVE 1913 WAS THE DATE ON
14:53:52 THE PLAT.
14:53:55 IT IS COUNCILMAN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OTHER THAN A STONE'S
14:53:58 THROW.
14:53:59 I WILL SHOW YOU A FEW PICTURES LATER OF AERIALS FOR
14:54:01 ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND KIND OF TUCKED IN THE CORNER OF THE
14:54:05 YEAR, SIDE YARD, AND MANY OF THESE STRUCTURES WERE ALSO
14:54:07 BUILT AROUND THE TIMES THAT THE HOMES WERE BUILT AND THIS IS
14:54:10 OFTEN IN THE 20s AND 30s WHEN THE AREA WAS PLATTED OR
14:54:15 SHORTLY AFTER IT WAS PLATTED AND A LOT OF THESE TYPES OF
14:54:17 STRUCTURES HAVE MINIMAL TO ZERO FOOT SETBACKS WHICH TODAY
14:54:20 ARE NONCONFORMING TO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING CODE.
14:54:24 THERE'S ALSO COMMON FOR STRUCTURES TO BE USED AS ADUs.
14:54:30 SO THESE SPECIAL USE 1 PERMIT AS YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR IS AN
14:54:35 ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, SO THERE'S NO PROBLEM HEARING, BUT
14:54:39 STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GRANT WAIVERS FROM
14:54:42 THOSE CRITERIA.
14:54:43 ONLY CITY COUNCIL HAS THAT AUTHORITY.
14:54:45 SO STAFF EVEN THOUGH IT MEETS ALL THE OTHER CODE AS STAFF
14:54:48 EXPLAINED, STAFF HAD TO DENY THE APPLICATION BECAUSE ONE OF
14:54:51 THOSE CRITERIA WAS NOT MET.
14:54:53 AND THIS PETITION FOR REVIEW VENUE ALLOWS THE POSSIBILITY
14:54:56 FOR YOU ALL TO GRANT A WAIVER OF THAT PARTICULAR CRITERION.
14:55:00 AS STAFF EXPLAINED, THE 3-FOOT DIFFERENCE, THE MODERN DAY
14:55:04 SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS 3 FEET,
14:55:07 WHETHER IT'S ON THE REAR OR THE SIDE, IN THIS CASE BOTH.
14:55:10 IT'S ZERO FEET WOULD REALLY FLUSH WITH THOSE SETBACKS.
14:55:15 WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY OPPOSITION.
14:55:16 WE CERTAINLY HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY OPPOSITION.
14:55:19 AND WE HAVE RECEIVED SUPPORT LETTERS FROM MANY OF THE
14:55:21 ADJACENT AND SURROUNDING OWNERS.
14:55:23 I WILL SHOW YOU A LITTLE MAP OF THOSE PEOPLE AND THE LETTERS
14:55:25 WERE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE APPELLATE FOR REVIEW PACKAGE
14:55:28 AS WELL.
14:55:31 YOU SAW THE SITE PLANS JUST A MOMENT AGO.
14:55:34 HERE ARE THE CONTENTS OF THE AERIAL STRUCTURE.
14:55:36 YOU CAN SEE AN ALLEY RUNS ALONG THE WEST, KIND OF BUFFERING
14:55:39 THAT STRUCTURE FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE WEST.
14:55:43 AND THEN TO THE NORTH IS HENRY AVENUE.
14:55:46 THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
14:55:46 THERE'S A PAVED PORTION AND AN UNIMPROVED PORTION THAT IS AN
14:55:51 ADDITIONAL BUFFER IN THE NORTH.
14:55:56 THESE ARE A LITTLE OLDER.
14:55:58 THEY HAVE CLEANED IT UP.
14:55:58 BUT THIS IS REALLY KIND OF ON THE GROUND TO GIVE YOU CONTEXT
14:56:01 OF THAT ALLEY AND ALSO THIS IS THE AREA IF YOU ARE STANDING
14:56:05 ON HENRY, YOU SEE THE UNIMPROVED PORTION OF HENRY.
14:56:08 SO THERE'S A LOT OF YARD SPACE, IT DOESN'T BELONG TO THEM
14:56:11 BUT THERE IS KIND OF A BUFFER AROUND THIS STRUCTURE.
14:56:15 SO THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA, THIS DWELLING UNIT, ACCESSORY
14:56:20 DWELLING UNIT IS LESS THAN 950 SQUARE FEET, I BELIEVE ABOUT
14:56:23 815.
14:56:24 THE MAIN RESIDENCE IS OWNER OCCUPIED.
14:56:27 IT'S THEIR HOMESTEAD, A NONCONFORM STRUCTURE.
14:56:30 THIS IS A JUSTIFIABLE WAIVER FROM THIS PARTICULAR CRITERIA
14:56:35 THAT WOULD OTHERWISE PROHIBIT USE OF A NONCONFORMING
14:56:38 STRUCTURE.
14:56:38 THIS PARTICULAR CRITERIA DOES NOT RECOGNIZE WHAT'S GOING ON
14:56:42 IN TAMPA'S OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS ESPECIALLY WHERE SO MANY OF
14:56:44 THESE STRUCTURES EXIST, THIS TYPE OF USE IS VERY COMMON, AND
14:56:47 UNNECESSARILY RESTRICTED TO DISALLOW USE OF EXISTING
14:56:50 BUILDING STOCK WHEN SO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO USE IT FOR
14:56:53 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND WHEN IT MEETS ALL OTHER CODE
14:56:57 CRITERIA.
14:56:58 SO IT DOESN'T REFLECT THE DESIRABILITY OF USING THESE AS
14:57:01 FORMAL HOUSING.
14:57:04 THE APPLICANT IS PREPARED TO COMPLY WITH THE NUMBER OF
14:57:07 LIMITATIONS AND THE SAFEGUARD OF THIS PROCESS IS THAT IT IS
14:57:10 REVIEWED, THE PERMIT IS REVIEWED ANNUALLY BY STAFF IF
14:57:13 GRANTED.
14:57:13 AND IF CONDITIONS CHANGE, IF IT BECAME SO KIND OF NEGATIVE
14:57:18 IMPACT IT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU ALL AGAIN TO REASSESS.
14:57:23 THE GENERAL STANDARDS FOR ALL SPECIAL USE 1 PERMITS, THERE
14:57:29 CANNOT BE A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, A
14:57:34 COMMON USE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE THOSE BUFFER AREAS
14:57:36 THAT I SHOWED YOU.
14:57:39 IT COMPLIES WITH ALL OF THE APPLICABLE CODE REGULATIONS AND
14:57:42 STANDARDS.
14:57:43 IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE REASONS I
14:57:45 EXPLAINED, AND VERY COMMON TYPE OF STRUCTURE AND ALSO USE,
14:57:50 IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT'S
14:57:53 RESIDENTIAL USE IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, REUSING EXISTING
14:57:56 BUILDING STOCK AND IT'S PROMOTING A VARIETY OF HOUSING
14:57:59 CHOICES.
14:57:59 AND FOR ALL THESE SAME REASONS IT'S NOT PROMOTING A
14:58:03 POTENTIAL OR PRECEDENT OF INCOMPATIBLE USES IN THE AREA.
14:58:08 AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS KIND OF WITHIN A STONE'S
14:58:11 THROW OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
14:58:12 A LOT OF THESE LITTLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN THE REAR
14:58:17 YARDS, OF COURSE DON'T HAVE SURVEYS ON ALL THESE BUT VISIBLY
14:58:21 THEY APPEAR TO BE VERY CLOSE AND NOT FLUSH WITH MANY OF THE
14:58:24 BOUNDARIES, THE LOT BOUNDARIES.
14:58:28 I DON'T KNOW IF THESE ALL HAVE SPECIAL PERMITS, OR IF THEY
14:58:31 ARE NONCONFORMING.
14:58:33 AGAIN I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION ON THE SURVEYS OR PERMITS
14:58:36 BUT THESE ARE KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF THE TYPES OF STRUCTURES
14:58:39 YOU SEE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, WHERE THEY ARE USING THESE.
14:58:43 THEY ARE CLEANING THEM UP, USING THEM AS ACCESSORY DWELLING
14:58:46 UNITS AND A LOT OF THESE AS YOU CAN SEE ARE FLUSH WITH THE
14:58:49 FENCE LINE SO PRESUMABLY THEY ARE SIMILARLY SITUATED AS YOU
14:58:52 SAW ON A LOT OF THE AERIALS, THE WAY THESE STRUCTURES ARE.
14:58:58 THE BLUE PIN DROPS ARE ALL SUPPORT LETTERS YOU RECEIVED
14:59:02 ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH, ADJACENT ACROSS THE ALLEY TO THE
14:59:06 NORTHWEST, ADJACENT TO THE NORTH ACROSS HENRY, A CROSS THE
14:59:10 STREET, AND ONE BLOCK TO THE SOUTH.
14:59:12 WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED OBJECTIONS.
14:59:14 I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK TODAY.
14:59:16 SO IN SUM, WE ARE REQUESTING A WAIVER FROM A SINGLE
14:59:19 CRITERION THAT DOESN'T REALLY REFLECT THE ACTUAL PATTERNS OF
14:59:23 DEVELOPMENT ESPECIALLY IN THESE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS.
14:59:25 WE WILL BE USING BUILDING STOCK.
14:59:26 THIS REQUEST OTHERWISE SATISFIES ALL APPLICABLE CODE.
14:59:30 AND THE STRUCTURE AND THE USE TYPE ARE COMMON IN THE AREA SO
14:59:33 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL AND I AM
14:59:36 HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
14:59:37 THANK YOU.
14:59:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:59:39 HOW LONG HAS THE STRUCTURE BEEN THERE?
14:59:42 >> SINCE 1930.
14:59:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:59:46 WHAT BROUGHT ON THIS CASE?
14:59:49 DID SOMEONE CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT OR ANYBODY ABOUT THIS?
14:59:52 >>JAIME MAIER: SO UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS A CASE STUDY IN BAD
14:59:55 PERMITTING ADVICE.
14:59:56 THE APPLICANT, ONE OF THE PARENTS WANTED TO REFURBISH THIS
15:00:02 INTO AN EXISTING UNIT FOR THEM TO LIVE IN SIX MONTHS OUT OF
15:00:06 THE YEAR AND THEN RECOUP COSTS WHICH RENTING IT OUT.
15:00:09 A LOT OF THEIR NEIGHBORS DO IT.
15:00:10 THEY HIRED A PERMITTING AGENT.
15:00:12 I HAVE PERSONALLY NOT WORKED WITH THE PERSON BECAUSE THEY
15:00:14 REALIZED THEY NEED THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
15:00:16 THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF THE PROCESS, GOT FLAGGED, STOPPED, WE
15:00:20 HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.
15:00:22 MS. SAVINO IS THE ATTORNEY WHO THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH,
15:00:27 AND WHILE WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, SO THAT'S WHERE WE
15:00:32 ARE.
15:00:34 YEAH, IT WAS UNFORTUNATE, THEY DIDN'T KNOW IN ADVANCE THEY
15:00:37 HAD TO MAKE THIS APPLICATION.
15:00:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO WERE THEY RENTING TO A FAMILY MEMBER?
15:00:43 >> NO, THEY ARE NOT RENTING IT YET.
15:00:45 THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, PULLING THE PERMIT AND
15:00:48 IT GOT FLAGGED DURING THE PROCESS OF RENOVATING IT.
15:00:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE IT WAS TAGGED, WHAT WAS IT USED FOR?
15:00:58 >> HONESTLY I AM NOT SURE.
15:01:00 I KNOW THEY WEREN'T REPRESENTING IT.
15:01:03 THEY RECENTLY MOVED INTO THEIR HOUSE LIKE A COUPLE YEARS
15:01:05 AGO.
15:01:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHO ARE THEY PLANNING ON RENTING IT TO?
15:01:09 >> OH, PARENTS --
15:01:12 >> FAMILY MEMBER?
15:01:13 >> PARENTS ABOUT SIX MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR.
15:01:15 OTHERWISE, I SUPPOSE WHOEVER WAS IN THE MARKET.
15:01:19 AND THEY ARE NOT HERE TODAY.
15:01:20 THEY WANTED TO BE HERE.
15:01:22 THEIR DAUGHTER HAS COVID.
15:01:23 I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE THEY COULD BETTER ANSWER SOME OF THESE
15:01:26 QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
15:01:26 SO MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
15:01:29 BUT IT'S NOT AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH A DIFFERENT
15:01:32 TYPE OF SPECIAL USE.
15:01:34 IT COULD BE RENTED TO CONCEIVABLY ANYBODY.
15:01:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO IT WOULDN'T LITERALLY BE A MOTHER-IN-LAW
15:01:42 SUITE?
15:01:42 >> IN EFFECT SIX MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR, YES.
15:01:45 BUT WE ARE NOT GOING THROUGH THAT -- THERE IS A DIFFERENT
15:01:48 SPECIAL USE CHANNEL FOR THAT.
15:01:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
15:01:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
15:01:59 I FIND IT VERY INTERESTING THAT SOMEONE WOULD LIVE THERE SIX
15:02:04 MONTHS AND THEN THEY ARE GOING TO ASK THEM TO LEAVE AND MOVE
15:02:08 SOMEONE IN FOR SIX MONTHS.
15:02:09 THAT DOESN'T WORK.
15:02:10 LET'S BE REALISTIC.
15:02:11 >> CORRECT.
15:02:14 A BNB.
15:02:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT.
15:02:18 I AM NOT CALLING YOU UNBELIEVABLE BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT.
15:02:22 NO ONE IS GOING TO MOVE THEM OUT AND MOVE THE PARENTS IN,
15:02:24 FIND ANOTHER TENANT, AND THAT'S GOING TO ROTATE EVERY YEAR?
15:02:28 >> I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE MORE SHORT TERM RENTAL WHICH
15:02:31 IS PERMITTED.
15:02:31 YOU ARE CORRECT.
15:02:32 THAT WOULD BE VERY STRANGE AND IT WOULD NOT BE REALISTIC.
15:02:35 BUT I THINK IT'S MORE A WAY FOR THEM TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY
15:02:40 TO COME DOWN --
15:02:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS THIS PROPERTY HOMESTEADED OR NOT?
15:02:46 >> YES.
15:02:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY HAVE NEVER RENTED THE PLACE?
15:02:49 >> NO, THEY HAVEN'T RENTED --
15:02:50 >> DOES IT HAVE A KITCHEN IN THE INSIDE?
15:02:52 >> YES. NOW.
15:02:53 THAT'S PART OF THE PERMIT PULLING.
15:02:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEN THEY LOSE THEIR HOMESTEAD.
15:02:58 IF THEY HAVE A KITCHEN IN THERE. THIS IS FOR FAMILY
15:02:59 MEMBERS.
15:02:59 IF YOU ARE GOING TO RENT IT, GUESS WHAT, THEN YOUR TAXES GO
15:03:02 UP, MUCH DIFFERENT.
15:03:04 YOUR TAXES BECOME A BUSINESS.
15:03:06 >> YOU ARE PERMITTED TO HAVE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND
15:03:11 ALSO LIVE IN THE HOUSE.
15:03:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FAMILY MEMBERS.
15:03:14 >> NO, RESPECTFULLY, THAT'S CALLED AN EXTENDED FAMILY
15:03:17 RESIDENCE, A DIFFERENT CHANNEL OF THE CODE AND YOU ARE NOT
15:03:20 ALLOWED TO RENT THAT OUT TO A NONFAMILY MEMBER.
15:03:22 MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR THAT AND WE ARE NOT
15:03:25 TRYING TO GET THAT THROUGH SECRETLY.
15:03:28 WE ARE ASKING FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT WHICH IS
15:03:31 PERMITTED TO BE RENTED TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.
15:03:33 IT IS A DIFFERENT SERIES OF PERMITS.
15:03:35 AND IT'S A DIFFERENT STANDARD.
15:03:38 I PERSONALLY HAVE DONE THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE
15:03:41 APPLICATION BEFORE AND IT IS DIFFERENT.
15:03:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE MORE QUESTION.
15:03:47 THE LOTS THAT YOU SHOWED US THAT HAVE DWELLING UNITS, DO YOU
15:03:49 KNOW IF THOSE ARE EMPTY OR FULL OR RELATIVES OR NOT?
15:03:53 >> I DON'T KNOW.
15:03:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT?
15:03:57 >> NO, SIR.
15:03:58 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
15:04:00 NO, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I DON'T KNOW THAT INFORMATION.
15:04:03 I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF IS AWARE IF THOSE UNITS ARE OCCUPIED
15:04:06 OR NOT.
15:04:09 AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE PETITIONER HAS PROVIDED THAT
15:04:11 INFORMATION EITHER.
15:04:12 >> I WILL SAY ONE OF THOSE WE GOT PERMITTED IS CURRENTLY
15:04:21 BEING USED.
15:04:21 I KNOW IT WENT THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS.
15:04:24 SO I KNOW IT'S ON THE MARKET FOR BEING RENTED.
15:04:28 THERE'S LISTINGS FOR IT.
15:04:29 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WANT -- ARE YOU
15:04:38 DONE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION?
15:04:39 >> YES.
15:04:41 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO COUNCIL
15:04:44 MEMBERS ATTENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP
15:04:46 DURING HER PRESENTATION.
15:04:47 THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT MAY BE SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY IN
15:04:52 QUESTION ASKING FOR A SPECIAL USE, THERE IS NO INFORMATION
15:04:55 ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ACCESSORY DWELLING, THOSE
15:04:58 STRUCTURES ARE PERMITTED, OR WHEN THEY WERE ESTABLISHED, AND
15:05:02 QUITE FRANKLY THEY WERE DONE BEFORE THE ZONING PROVISION
15:05:05 TEAMS.
15:05:05 AND I JUST WANT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE AWARE OF THAT,
15:05:11 THAT JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE PROPERTIES IN THAT AREA HAVE
15:05:14 ALSO STRUCTURES IN THE REAR DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT WAS
15:05:18 PERMITTED, AND THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING PROVIDED BY THE
15:05:23 PETITIONER THAT THEY WERE PERMITTED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN
15:05:26 THE REAR.
15:05:26 AND JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BACK THERE DOESN'T MEAN THAT OTHER
15:05:31 PROPERTIES HAVE IT DOESN'T MEAN THIS PARROT SAME PROPERTY
15:05:33 OWNER SHOULD HAVE THE SAME THING.
15:05:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
15:05:40 YES, MA'AM?
15:05:40 >>ABBYE FEELEY: DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
15:05:45 MANAGEMENT FOR THE CITY.
15:05:47 I JUST WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT'S
15:05:49 HAPPENING UP TO THIS MORNING, AS YOU KNOW, OR THIS
15:05:52 AFTERNOON.
15:05:52 WE ARE CONTINUALLY FACING OUR CRISIS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING
15:05:55 AND HOUSING UNIT.
15:05:56 AND WHAT I HEAR THE DISCUSSION TAKING PLACE TODAY IS ON
15:06:00 EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCES VERSUS AB USES WHICH ARE
15:06:04 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
15:06:06 THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PRODUCTS.
15:06:07 THEY ARE BOTH SPECIAL USES.
15:06:09 WHAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING ON THIS CASE IS THAT THIS IS
15:06:13 A REQUEST FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
15:06:16 THE CRITERIA DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THOSE TO BE COMPLIES PLACED
15:06:20 IN NONCONFORMING STRUCTURES.
15:06:22 THE SPECIAL USE 1, WHICH IS ADMINISTRATIVE, WENT TO THE
15:06:25 ZONING DEPARTMENT.
15:06:26 THEY DENIED IT BECAUSE IT HAS THOSE SPECIFIC CRITERIA.
15:06:32 IF YOU DON'T MEET IT WE CANNOT APPROVE IT.
15:06:34 IT COMES TO YOU ON APPEAL.
15:06:36 THAT'S WHERE IT IS TODAY, TO ASK YOU FOR PERMISSION TO USE
15:06:39 THAT NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE FOR THIS USE.
15:06:43 AND THAT IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU.
15:06:45 SO GETTING INTO THE KITCHENS, THIS IS AN ALLOWED ACCESSORY
15:06:51 DWELLING WHICH ALLOWS FOR A KITCHEN, IT ALLOWS FOR IT TO BE
15:06:54 RENTED.
15:06:54 SO IT IS DIFFERENT FROM AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE, BUT I
15:06:57 JUST WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD CLARIFYING WHAT'S BEFORE YOU
15:07:00 TODAY.
15:07:01 SORRY ABOUT THAT, LAURA.
15:07:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY.
15:07:08 I ALWAYS LEARN WHEN YOU GIVE US YOUR INPUT.
15:07:12 I WAS LOOKING FOR A DIFFERENT SUBJECT WHEN I ASKED WHO WAS
15:07:14 GOING TO BE LIVING THERE, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOING TO BE
15:07:16 RENTED TO A FAMILY MEMBER OR NOT.
15:07:18 AGAIN, WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE LEASES IN THIS AREA OF THE CITY
15:07:22 OF TAMPA.
15:07:25 I AM JUST THE KIND OF PERSON THAT LIKES TO BE SEE EXTENDED
15:07:28 LEASES INSTEAD OF SHORT-TERM.
15:07:31 THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION.
15:07:34 I WOULD GIVE IT CONSIDERATION.
15:07:37 YEAH, MY MOTHER-IN-LAW IS GOING TO RENT IT.
15:07:41 THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY.
15:07:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT
15:07:44 WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
15:07:46 ANYBODY REGISTERED?
15:07:47 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
15:07:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY REBUTTAL?
15:07:55 >>JAIME MAIER: I APPRECIATE MS. FEELEY'S INPUT.
15:07:58 WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SNEAK THROUGH AN EXTENDED FAMILY
15:08:01 RESIDENCE.
15:08:01 WE WOULD HAVE GONE THAT ROUTE IF THAT WAS THE ONLY THING
15:08:04 THEY WANTED TO DO WITH IT.
15:08:05 THEY DO WANT TO RENT IT OUT.
15:08:07 BUT THEIR PARENTS ALSO WANT THE FLEXIBILITY TO STAY THERE
15:08:10 BECAUSE IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
15:08:13 BUT, YES, IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A RENTAL UNIT.
15:08:16 SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST.
15:08:20 AND ALSO TO CLARIFY, I SAID ON THE RECORD AS I WAS SHOWING
15:08:23 YOU.
15:08:23 I DON'T HAVE THE SURVEYS FOR THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES.
15:08:26 I DON'T HAVE ANY RECORD OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
15:08:29 IT'S JUST KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE SURROUNDING AREA
15:08:32 LOOKS LIKE, AND WHAT IS FREQUENTLY GOING ON IN THE
15:08:34 NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WHERE THEY GOT THE IDEA, FRANKLY.
15:08:37 SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS
15:08:40 WAIVER.
15:08:40 AND I THINK IT DOES PROMOTE, HELPS WITH THE ISSUES WE HAVE
15:08:46 IN THE CITY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO BE HERE.
15:08:48 THANK YOU.
15:08:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
15:08:51 GUDES.
15:08:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY HAVING A
15:08:54 RENTAL UNIT.
15:08:55 I KNOW THAT IN THAT AREA, THERE'S A WAY OF DOING IT WHERE
15:09:00 YOU CAN HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THERE AND THEY DO CHECK ONCE A
15:09:03 YEAR, AND I AM ALL FINE WITH THAT.
15:09:06 BUT ONCE THEY SAY IT'S A RENTAL UNIT, THAT CAUSE AS LOT OF
15:09:09 QUESTIONS TO ME. IN WEST TAMPA ALONE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT
15:09:12 IN A VERY SMALL AREA -- AND IT WASN'T SO MUCH ACCESSORY
15:09:17 UNITS AS THEY EXPANDED THE HOUSE CONNECTED TO THE HOUSE.
15:09:20 AND SOMETIMES THERE'S TWO OR THREE FAMILIES LIVING IN THE
15:09:23 HOUSE, IN THE BACK.
15:09:24 AND IN FACT ONE OF THE LADIES LAST THURSDAY NIGHT CAME TO ME
15:09:29 ASKING IF I COULD FIND A REPLACEMENT.
15:09:31 SHE'S RENTING AN APARTMENT INSIDE OF HER HOUSE.
15:09:35 SO WHAT HAPPENS THERE IS THIS.
15:09:38 AND I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS THIS CASE, PLEASE, DON'T TAKE
15:09:41 THAT.
15:09:42 THEY PAY NO AD VALOREM TAX OTHER THAN THE HOMESTEAD TAX.
15:09:47 THEY PAY NO INCOME TAX.
15:09:49 THEY ARE NOT REPORTING IT TO THE GOVERNMENT.
15:09:51 SO MOST OF THEM, I ALWAYS SAY 95% OF THOSE THAT I HAVE SEEN
15:09:55 ARE PAYING NOTHING.
15:09:58 NOTHING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.
15:09:59 NOTHING TO THE COUNTY.
15:09:59 NOTHING TO THE CITY.
15:10:01 AND THOSE ARE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, IN A SMALL AREA, THAT I
15:10:04 CAN TELL YOU IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSE.
15:10:07 AND WE DO NOTHING.
15:10:10 THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
15:10:17 NOT ABOUT YOUR CASE.
15:10:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S KIND OF STRANGE TO ME.
15:10:22 SIX MONTHS, AND THEN THEY ARE GONE, AND SIX MONTHS, I MEAN,
15:10:28 WE TALK ABOUT A HOUSING CRISIS, BUT IT'S ODD TO ME RIGHT
15:10:35 NOW.
15:10:37 I MOVE TO CLOSE.
15:10:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO CLOSE.
15:10:43 SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
15:10:46 ALL IN FAVOR?
15:10:47 ANY OPPOSED?
15:10:47 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
15:10:48 >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN, JUST TO SEE
15:11:05 WHAT HAPPENS, UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO MAKE THE OTHER
15:11:08 MOTION.
15:11:10 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE ZONING
15:11:14 ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF SPECIAL USE 1 APPLICATION
15:11:18 SU-1-22-04 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5710 NORTH MIAMI AVENUE
15:11:26 BECAUSE THE GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-132
15:11:30 AND 27-129 SHOULD BE WAIVED.
15:11:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I WOULD APPRECIATE, I AGREE WITH
15:11:39 YOU.
15:11:40 HOWEVER, WHEN I LOOK AT THE CRIMINALITY ASPECT, AND WE
15:11:45 HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH THEM EITHER, THEN WHY SHOULD I
15:11:49 PICK ON ONE WHEN THERE'S SEVEN NEXT?
15:11:52 AND I AGREE WITH YOU, SIR.
15:11:53 I REALLY DO.
15:11:54 BUT WHEN THERE'S SEVEN OTHER BLUE DOTS AND WE DON'T KNOW
15:12:00 WHAT'S GOING ON?
15:12:01 SO IF THERE'S 8 SPEEDERS DO I JUST CATCH ONE?
15:12:09 >>BILL CARLSON: DOES THIS FAIL FOR LACK OF A SECOND?
15:12:12 >> I SECOND IT.
15:12:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I AGREE WITH YOU.
15:12:14 IF I AM GOING TO GO ON ONE, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER ONES?
15:12:21 I'M ASKING ANYBODY.
15:12:22 GIVE ME SOME HELP.
15:12:23 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AFTER WE VOTE?
15:12:27 BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR ADVICE.
15:12:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, IF THIS IS A DISCUSSION ON THE
15:12:33 MOTION AND IT FORMS THE BASIS FOR YOUR DECISION, I THINK
15:12:35 IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE PART OF THE RECORD, IF YOU HAVE A
15:12:38 POSITION, AS TO ANY FACTS, ADDITIONAL FACTS.
15:12:42 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SYSTEMIC SOLUTIONS
15:12:44 FOR THIS PROBLEM.
15:12:46 THAT MAY BE BETTER UNDER NEW BUSINESS OR SOMETHING.
15:12:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL --
15:12:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO REOPEN.
15:12:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
15:13:11 YES, MA'AM?
15:13:12 >> I THINK THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS CORRECT THAT THIS IS
15:13:24 AN ISSUE WE NEED TO DISCUSS BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE ARE
15:13:27 HAVING A WORKSHOP ON AB USE COMING UP SOON AND I THINK THAT
15:13:31 GOES ALONG WITH THAT.
15:13:32 BUT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN HOUSING NOW, WE DO NEED TO FIND
15:13:39 MORE WAYS TO ALLOW HOUSING, AND THIS WOULD BE ALLOWABLE --
15:13:48 WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE IF IT HADN'T BEEN SET BACK
15:13:50 INCORRECTLY, OR NOT INCORRECTLY BUT JUST DIFFERENT FROM WHAT
15:13:55 OUR CURRENT ZONING IS.
15:13:56 BUT I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.
15:13:57 I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE NEED TO
15:13:59 FIND ALL OF THOSE HIDDEN UNITS AND BRING THEM ON.
15:14:03 AND I THINK WE CAN DO THAT, BUT THIS TO ME IS TALKING ABOUT
15:14:08 DOING IT LEGALLY, GETTING ALL THE WAIVERS, GETTING
15:14:11 EVERYTHING THEY NEED, AND USING THE PROPERTY THE WAY THEY
15:14:14 ARE ALLOWED TO USE IT.
15:14:16 IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN TO BE IN THE CORRECT -- IN THE
15:14:20 LOCATION THAT THE CITY WOULD NORMALLY ALLOW.
15:14:21 >> THANK YOU.
15:14:30 AND I HAVE HEARD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST.
15:14:32 AGAIN, TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S POINT, WHY ARE WE PICKING OUT
15:14:36 ONE WHEN THERE'S EIGHT OTHERS?
15:14:39 WHAT WAS THE REASON WHY CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS CALLED ON THIS
15:14:41 ONE?
15:14:45 THIS IS A SIX-MONTH RENTAL.
15:14:48 I WANT TO KNOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET CERTIFICATES?
15:14:51 WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE OTHER MONTHS?
15:14:57 THESE ARE JUST QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE INSIDE MY HEAD.
15:15:00 I WANT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
15:15:02 BUT I WANTS THE RECORDS TO BE CLEAR ON WHO HAS WHAT, HOW
15:15:06 IT'S BEING RENTED, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A TOPIC OF
15:15:09 DISCUSSION.
15:15:10 SO I JUST HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT THIS ONE.
15:15:14 THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
15:15:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAID, AND IF I MAY,
15:15:18 MR. CHAIRMAN.
15:15:20 THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
15:15:23 THE OTHERS ARE NOT.
15:15:26 I JUST BROUGHT THAT UP, INSTEAD OF LOOKING THROUGH A NARROW
15:15:31 HOLE IN THE WALL I WANT TO LOOK THROUGH A THICK TELESCOPE SO
15:15:35 I CAN SEE IT ALL.
15:15:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
15:15:39 I JUST POINT TO THE CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED
15:15:41 WITH, SPECIFICALLY SECTION 27-132 AND SECTION 27-129.
15:15:48 AGAIN, YOU ARE PRESENTED WITH THIS PARTICULAR SET OF FACTS,
15:15:50 AND THIS IS THE PETITION THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY.
15:15:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER
15:15:57 CARLSON WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
15:16:00 ROLL CALL.
15:16:01 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
15:16:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
15:16:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
15:16:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: VERY RELUCTANTLY YES.
15:16:15 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
15:16:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
15:16:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
15:16:19 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
15:16:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
15:16:24 WE GO TO STAFF REPORTS.
15:16:26 AND UNDER THAT, I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER 29, BECAUSE OF THE
15:16:32 AMOUNT OF $4.4 MILLION, WE HAVE THAT -- WELL, THERE'S A
15:16:42 SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION ON IT?
15:16:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE CLERK JUST CAUGHT A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERA
15:16:56 THAT WE CAN CORRECT UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
15:16:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY HERE UNDER ITEM 29?
15:17:06 THIS IS THE AMENDMENT.
15:17:08 DID WE PASS 29?
15:17:09 SO THAT'S ALREADY SET.
15:17:10 OKAY.
15:17:11 SO I HAVE THE ADDENDUM.
15:17:21 THAT WILL BE A PRESENTATION LATER ON.
15:17:26 THERE'S NO ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
15:17:27 ITEM NUMBER 44.
15:17:28 THIS IS TAMPA UNION STATION COFFEE SHOP/INCUBATOR PROPOSAL.
15:17:32 ROB ROSNER.
15:17:38 >>BILL CARLSON: HE'S GIVEN A REPORT AND PRESENTATION.
15:17:40 THANK YOU FOR THAT.
15:17:41 MY CONCERN WHICH I EXPRESSED DURING THE CRA MEETING IS JUST
15:17:45 THAT THIS IS BEING PUSHED WAY OUT IN THE FUTURE, AND THE
15:17:49 REASON IS THAT THE FRIEND OF TAMPA UNION STATION AND THE
15:17:55 CITY IN CONVERSATIONS HAVE DECIDED TO SEEK GRANTS FOR THE
15:17:59 ADDITIONAL 1.5 MILLION.
15:18:01 SO I SPOKE TO MS. TRAVIS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
15:18:06 TO ASK THE CITY STAFF AND CRA STAFF TO WORK ON AN AGREEMENT
15:18:12 BETWEEN CRA, THE CITY, AND IF NECESSARY FRIEND OF TAMPA
15:18:18 UNION STATION TO HAVE THE CRA FUND THE ADDITIONAL 1.5
15:18:27 MILLION SUBJECT TO REIMBURSEMENT BY THE CITY FOR FRIEND OF
15:18:35 TAMPA UNION STATION WITH ANY GRANT FUNDS RECEIVED.
15:18:40 THAT WAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL SAW THE LETTER TO THE
15:18:44 EDITOR IN THE PAPER BUT THE MAYOR IS MAKING THE SAME
15:18:48 ARGUMENT AS A LITTLE WHILE AGO THAT THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION
15:18:50 IS GOING UP AND THE ESTIMATES WE HAVE GOTTEN ON THE TAMPA
15:18:53 UNION STATION ARE GOING TO GO UP IF THEY DELAY THIS AND THEY
15:18:56 WOULD LIKE TO MOVE RIGHT AWAY.
15:18:57 SO IF WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE FUNDS, WE HAVE TO VOTE ON
15:19:01 IT AGAIN IN CRA, BUT IF WE PROVIDE THESE FUNDS IMMEDIATELY
15:19:04 THEY CAN DO THE RENOVATION AND THE BUILDING AT THE SAME TIME
15:19:08 WHICH WILL SAVE MONEY, NOT ONLY IN COSTS BUT ALSO BY DOING
15:19:11 BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
15:19:12 AND THEN WE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO GET REIMBURSED.
15:19:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CARLSON, SECOND BY MIRANDA.
15:19:18 DISCUSSION?
15:19:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:19:20 I AM FOR THIS, BUT HAS CRA PUT ANY MONEY INTO THIS SO FAR?
15:19:29 >>BILL CARLSON: WE VOTED ON --
15:19:31 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IT WAS A MILLION DOLLARS.
15:19:33 WE DISCUSSED THAT EARLIER THIS WEEK.
15:19:35 IT WAS A MILLION DOLLARS PUT IN THE BUDGET.
15:19:37 THAT ITEM IS STILL THERE.
15:19:38 I THINK IT'S LIKE 976,000 BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME, I DON'T
15:19:43 KNOW, STUDY OR SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE.
15:19:45 BUT THERE IS A MILLION DOLLARS THERE IN THE BUDGET RIGHT
15:19:47 NOW.
15:19:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND THIS IS ANOTHER 1.5 ON TOP OF THAT?
15:19:53 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: MR. CARLSON IS ASKING FOR A 1.25 FOR
15:19:56 REMEDIATION AND REPAIR OF THE BUILDING IN ADVANCE, IF WE DID
15:20:01 GRANT FUND.
15:20:02 THAT WOULD MEAN IF WE DON'T GET GRANT FUND THE CRA WOULD BE
15:20:05 PUTTING IN THAT MONEY WITHOUT REIMBURSEMENT.
15:20:07 BUT WE COULD STILL SEEK THAT ALONG THE WAY.
15:20:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND THE 900 THAT YOU PLUS WAS FROM CRA,
15:20:14 EXCUSE ME, YBOR CRA 1?
15:20:20 >> YOU ARE ASKING ME QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS
15:20:22 TO BUT I KNOW ROB ROSNER --
15:20:26 >> DOWNTOWN CRA.
15:20:27 OKAY.
15:20:27 >> BECAUSE IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO GASWORX PROJECT.
15:20:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I STAND CORRECTED.
15:20:33 THANK YOU.
15:20:33 AGAIN, THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET.
15:20:37 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES.
15:20:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANKS VERY MUCH.
15:20:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARLSON HAS A MOTION, SECOND BY
15:20:43 MIRANDA.
15:20:44 YES, MA'AM.
15:20:44 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
15:20:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU WANT?
15:20:53 MAY, THERE'S A REGULAR MEETING IN MAY?
15:20:58 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YOU ARE ASKING FOR THE CRA BOARD TO --
15:21:01 >>BILL CARLSON: FOR STAFF TO COME BACK WITH AN AGREEMENT
15:21:03 BETWEEN CRA AND CITY, BECAUSE THE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY, AND
15:21:08 THEY WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THE AGREEMENT, IT WILL SAY THAT
15:21:12 CRA WILL UPFRONT THE MONEY BUT THEN THE CITY WILL REIMBURSE
15:21:17 IF WE GET GRANTS.
15:21:20 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
15:21:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY 19th UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
15:21:24 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME
15:21:26 TO DRAFT AN AGREEMENT.
15:21:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUNE 16th?
15:21:33 THAT'S ALMOST 60 DAYS OUT.
15:21:35 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: 60 DAYS FOR US TO GO TO THE CAC, GET THE
15:21:41 AGREEMENT AND COME BACK?
15:21:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO JUNE 16th THAT DAY AND THEN WE
15:21:47 GO INTO SUMMER BREAK.
15:21:48 HOW ABOUT JULY 14th?
15:21:51 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IF WE GET IT DONE BEFORE THAT I WILL BRING
15:21:54 IT TO YOU TO YOU BEFORE THAT.
15:21:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER FOR
15:21:58 JULY 14th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
15:22:00 COUNCILMAN MEMBER CARLSON WITH A MOTION.
15:22:02 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
15:22:04 ROLL CALL.
15:22:04 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
15:22:10 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
15:22:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
15:22:13 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
15:22:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
15:22:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
15:22:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
15:22:17 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
15:22:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THAT WILL COVER ALL OF 44, SO YOU
15:22:22 ARE SATISFIED?
15:22:23 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE JUST TALK ABOUT 47 SINCE IT'S THE
15:22:25 SAME TOPIC?
15:22:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABOUT UNION STATION?
15:22:29 SURE.
15:22:29 47.
15:22:31 >>BILL CARLSON: I ALSO TALKED TO MS. TRAVIS ABOUT THIS.
15:22:33 THIS IS FOR THE WORLD WAR II MEMORIAL.
15:22:35 AND I TALKED TO JACKSON, HE AND HIS FATHER THAT HELPED SAVE
15:22:42 THIS STATION, JACKSON ALSO IN ATLANTA HISTORY CENTER, AND HE
15:22:46 SAID THAT THEY PUT UP A WORLD WAR II MEMORIAL AT THE ATLANTA
15:22:49 HISTORY CENTER, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DID WAS THEY SET
15:22:52 UP A STEERING COMMITTEE OR ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SETTING UP
15:22:55 AND OFFICIAL COMMITTEE IS COMPLICATED BUT I WONDER IF -- IT
15:23:00 WOULD BE GREAT IF ROBIN NIGH'S DEPARTMENT COULD BE INVOLVED
15:23:05 IN THIS BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S A CITY PROPERTY, THE CRA
15:23:08 DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT TO GET THIS DONE.
15:23:10 THE CRA COULD GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF DECIDING WHAT THE
15:23:14 STATUE SHOULD BE, IF WE WOULD GO THROUGH CITY PURCHASING TO
15:23:19 HIRE AN ARTIST, AND THEN THAT WOULD COME BACK TO THE CRA
15:23:25 BOARD.
15:23:25 THE ONLY THING YOU ARE REALLY SAYING IN YOUR DOCUMENT IS WE
15:23:29 DON'T WANT TO PUT A STATUE INSIDE THE BUILDING WHILE IT'S
15:23:32 BEING RENOVATED BUT IT COULD OUTSIDE IN FRONT OR IN BACK,
15:23:37 AND I THINK THAT PROCESS COULD GO CONCURRENTLY.
15:23:39 IF IT HAPPENS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO INSIDE, WE COULD
15:23:42 ALWAYS PUT IT SOMEWHERE AND THEN THERE'S A STORAGE AREA
15:23:46 THERE TOO THAT WE CAN PUT IT IN.
15:23:47 SO MY REQUEST, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK CITY
15:23:54 STAFF TO WORK WITH CRA STAFF AND POSSIBLY THE PUBLIC ART
15:23:59 COMMITTEE, OR DEPARTMENT, TO SET UP AN AD HOC STEERING
15:24:05 COMMITTEE MADE UP OF WORLD WAR II VETERANS TO MOVE THIS
15:24:10 PROCESS FORWARD RIGHT AWAY.
15:24:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE THAT, JULY 14th
15:24:16 AS WELL UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
15:24:17 >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEN GET AN UPDATE ON JULY 14th
15:24:20 ALSO.
15:24:20 THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
15:24:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT PLENTY OF TIME?
15:24:24 I'M ON THE ARTS COUNCIL BOARD, AND WE WILL BE MEETING IN
15:24:27 BETWEEN THAT.
15:24:27 >>OCEA WYNN: NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
15:24:34 ARTS AND CULTURAL AFFAIRS FALLS WITHIN MY PORTFOLIO. YES,
15:24:40 WE CAN DEFINITELY PUT BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER TO PRESENT AT
15:24:43 THE SAME TIME WHEN BRINGING TOGETHER A COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT
15:24:47 THIS.
15:24:48 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER
15:24:51 IS BRINGING A TIMELINE TO SHOW THE CONCURRENT PATHS FOR THE
15:24:55 ART PIECE AS WELL AS THE CONSTRUCTION PIECE, THE SUBSEQUENT
15:24:59 ART PIECE, JUST SO THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE THE TIMELINE OF
15:25:02 WHEN THINGS CAN HAPPEN CONCURRENTLY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
15:25:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU WANTED WORLD
15:25:08 WAR II VETERANS TO BE ON THE --
15:25:11 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXCLUSIVELY
15:25:13 WORLD WAR II VETERANS BUT THAT'S WHAT JACKSON RECOMMENDED.
15:25:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW A FEW AND ONE IN PARTICULAR,
15:25:18 HE'S GOT TO BE 98, 97, AND I THINK HE WAS AT UNION STATION
15:25:24 BECAUSE DID HE GO TO THE PACIFIC.
15:25:26 HIS BROTHER WAS STATION A IT DREW FIELD.
15:25:29 HE PASSED AWAY.
15:25:30 BUT I COULD REACH OUT TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT
15:25:32 COULD TELL YOU, AS AN EYEWITNESS, WE WERE AT THAT TRAIN
15:25:39 STATION.
15:25:39 >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE YOU CAN TELL NICOLE AS INTERIM CRA
15:25:42 PERSON, BUT GARY MORMINO HAS ALSO INTERVIEWED THE WORLD WAR
15:25:44 II VETERANS, SO HE WOULD OFFER TO PARTICIPATE.
15:25:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND BY
15:25:53 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
15:25:54 ALL IN FAVOR?
15:25:56 ALL RIGHT.
15:25:56 NUMBER 45.
15:25:59 JC HUDGISON.
15:26:02 THEN ABBYE FEELEY.
15:26:04 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN.
15:26:05 NUMBER 45.
15:26:06 >>ABBYE FEELEY: DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
15:26:08 MANAGEMENT.
15:26:09 AND I DO HAVE JC HUDGISON WITH ME THIS AFTERNOON.
15:26:13 THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.
15:26:14 ITEM NUMBER 45 ON YOUR AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON IS A MOTION
15:26:17 THAT WAS FROM AUGUST 5th AND THAT WAS TO REPORT ON THE
15:26:22 POSSIBLE IMPLEMENTATION TO AUDIT BUILDINGS.
15:26:26 WE DID COME BEFORE YOU AND DISCUSSED MONITORING WHAT WAS
15:26:33 GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE THIS SESSION IN
15:26:36 RELATION TO THIS MATTER.
15:26:38 THERE WERE TWO BILLS, TWO SENATE BILLS THAT LOOKED AT THE
15:26:42 POTENTIAL OF THIS, AND NEITHER OF THOSE BILLS MADE IT
15:26:47 THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE THIS SESSION.
15:26:50 SO AT THIS TIME, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO RECOMMEND THAT
15:26:55 WE LOOK AT SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND THE VIABILITY AND
15:26:59 ENFORCEMENT OF SOMETHING POTENTIAL, BUT JUST TO CONTINUE TO
15:27:03 KEEP A PULSE ON WHAT IS GOING ON AT THE STATE LEVEL IN
15:27:06 RELATION, BECAUSE THIS WOULD REALLY BE MORE OF A BUILDING
15:27:08 CODE MATTER THAN IT WOULD AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
15:27:13 SO THAT IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
15:27:14 THAT'S THE MEMORANDUM WE PROVIDED FOR YOU, APRIL 13th
15:27:17 DATED MEMO.
15:27:18 WE ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
15:27:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
15:27:23 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU BROUGHT THIS FORWARD.
15:27:24 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, COMMISSIONER OVERMAN ASKED TO US LOOK
15:27:30 AT THIS.
15:27:30 I THINK SHE WANTED SOMETHING THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT
15:27:32 SHE HAD PROPOSED AT THE COUNTY.
15:27:34 DO YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE THAT NOW?
15:27:37 >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE ARE NOT PURSUING A CERTIFICATION, A
15:27:39 BUILDING CERTIFICATION PROGRAM WITHIN THE CITY AT THIS TIME.
15:27:42 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA OR YOU ARE
15:27:47 WAITING FOR THE STATE?
15:27:50 >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING WHAT THE STATE HAS
15:27:51 BEEN DOING.
15:27:52 THERE ARE OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE HAD IN
15:27:55 RELATIONSHIP TO THIS.
15:27:56 SOME PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT BUILDINGS OVER 30 YEARS IN AGE.
15:27:59 THAT WOULD BE ANYTHING CONSTRUCTED FROM 1992 FORWARD.
15:28:03 AT THIS TIME.
15:28:04 AND ALSO THE LEGAL LIABILITY OF PUTTING INTO PLACE A
15:28:07 CERTIFICATION PROCESS THAT YOU THEN GO OUT, YOU CERTIFY
15:28:12 SOMETHING, OR YOU HAVE ANOTHER ENTITY CERTIFY, ENGINEERING
15:28:17 COMPANY OR WHATEVER, AND THEY COME BACK, THEY SAY SOMETHING
15:28:19 IS WRONG.
15:28:20 YOU KNOW, THERE'S MULTIPLE FACTORS TO THIS PROGRAM, AND WE
15:28:25 REALLY WERE WAITING FOR THAT OTHER DIRECTION.
15:28:28 WE ARE HAPPY TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
15:28:31 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT MRS. LUTZ AT THE COUNTY EITHER HAS AT
15:28:37 THIS MOMENT IN TIME.
15:28:39 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
15:28:41 OKAY, THANK YOU.
15:28:42 WE APPRECIATE YOU.
15:28:43 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:28:44 NEXT WE ARE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER 46.
15:28:47 ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 46?
15:28:49 >>OCEA WYNN: ADMINISTRATOR, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
15:29:02 COUNCILMAN GUDES, MY CONDOLENCES.
15:29:04 I WAS JUST AT AN EVENT WITH DEBBIE LAST WEDNESDAY.
15:29:07 WE SAT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, SO IT WAS VERY HEART WRENCHING TO
15:29:11 HEAR THE NEWS SO MY CONDOLENCES TO YOU.
15:29:15 I WAS ASKED TO APPEAR BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY ON THE
15:29:19 POSSIBILITY OF CREATING A COMPLAINT REGISTRY FOR LANDLORD.
15:29:23 AND IF YOU RECALL, CODE ENFORCEMENT WE REPORTED LAST OCTOBER
15:29:29 WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO COME AND CREATE A RECOMMENDATION STRIP
15:29:32 FOR LANDLORDS, TO REALIZE WHAT EFFICIENCIES THAT WE COULD
15:29:36 REALIZE TO IMPROVE THE CURRENT PROGRAM.
15:29:38 IF YOU RECALL, THE RENTAL CERTIFICATE PROGRAM IS ONE WHERE
15:29:42 THE LANDLORDS SELF CERTIFY THAT THE UNITS COMPLY WITH THE
15:29:49 MINIMUM HOUSING STANDARDS, BUT THIS IS WITHOUT AN INSPECTION
15:29:54 FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT.
15:29:56 SO WHAT WE DID IS THAT WE ASSESSED THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
15:29:59 PROPERTY TO SEE WHAT DO THEY DO FOR THEIR LANDLORDS?
15:30:08 WE FOUND OUT THAT THEY INVESTIGATE, WHAT THEY HAVE IS A
15:30:12 PROGRAM WHERE THEY INVESTIGATE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF
15:30:15 USE THROUGH THE COMPLAINTS IN AN ONLINE PROCESS.
15:30:21 AND WE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU THAT WE COULD DO A NUMBER OF
15:30:24 THINGS.
15:30:24 WE WOULD GET RID OF THE IN-KIND PROGRAM BECAUSE IT WAS IN
15:30:29 FACT INEFFICIENT.
15:30:30 WE'LL REPLACE THAT PROGRAM AND IMPLEMENT A PROACTIVE PROCESS
15:30:34 THAT RANDOMLY SELECTS THE RENTAL PROPERTIES FOR INSPECTIONS.
15:30:39 WE GET THOSE LISTS OF RENTALS OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS FROM
15:30:45 THE BUSINESS TAX OFFICE.
15:30:48 IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE SAID THAT WE WOULD CREATE AN ONLINE
15:30:53 PORTAL PROCESS SIMILAR TO THAT AT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OFFICE
15:31:00 HAS.
15:31:01 IN THAT PROCESS THAT WE WILL PUT OUR LINK ON THE CODE
15:31:03 ENFORCEMENT WEBSITE, AND THAT LINK WILL LINK TO -- ALLOW US
15:31:09 TO GET THOSE CODE COMPLAINTS AND THOSE VIOLATIONS.
15:31:12 AND LINK TO THE SPACE WEBSITE SO THEY CAN GET ISSUES AS
15:31:18 WELL.
15:31:19 SO MY QUESTIONS TO YOU IS, WE PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION.
15:31:23 WE SAID THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE ONLINE PROCESS UP AND RUNNING
15:31:27 BEFORE THE NEXT ROUND OF THE CERTIFICATES, AND WE ARE
15:31:32 LOOKING AT A JUNE-JULY TIME FRAME, AND WE ARE STILL ON TRACK
15:31:36 WITH THAT.
15:31:37 SO MUCH MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHAT QUESTIONS CAN I HAVE THAT
15:31:41 ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY PRESENTED AND
15:31:43 COMMITTED, TO WHAT WE WERE GOING TO ALREADY DO?
15:31:46 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:31:47 I KNOW COUNCILMAN GUDES OR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WHICH ONE
15:31:54 WANTS TO GO FIRST.
15:31:55 >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I THINK IS ALREADY A
15:31:58 BIG DEAL BUT IT'S GOING TO BECOME MUCH LARGER WITH THIS
15:32:01 HOUSING CRISIS WE HAVE.
15:32:02 MY CONCERN IS HOW ARE WE FINDING THE -- AND I AM THINKING
15:32:11 NOT ONLY OF THE ONES THAT ARE LEGAL PER SE, BUT THE ONES
15:32:14 THAT PEOPLE WHO BUILT OUT IN THEIR GARAGE OR THINGS LIKE
15:32:19 THAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO FIND THOSE AND BRING THEM INTO
15:32:23 COMPLIANCE?
15:32:23 IS THAT JUST GOING TO BE A CODE MATTER?
15:32:28 WYNN ONE WHEN WE GET COMPLAINT, WE HAVE OUR CODE OFFICERS TO
15:32:30 GO AND INVESTIGATE TO SEE IF THEY ARE LEGITIMATE OR NOT, AND
15:32:37 IF THEY ARE NOT, WE DO ISSUE CODE VIOLATIONS ACCORDINGLY.
15:32:41 WE DO NOT HAVE A PROACTIVE PROCESS WHERE WE GO THROUGH THE
15:32:45 NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOOK FOR THESE SITUATIONS.
15:32:49 SO THEY ARE COMPLAINT DRIVEN.
15:32:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
15:32:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS I AM LOOKING AT ANOTHER PICTURE A
15:32:59 LITTLE BIT.
15:32:59 WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND NOT HAVE
15:33:06 ANY AUTHORITY TO DEAL WITH THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE FOUR OR
15:33:09 FIVE ADDITIONS.
15:33:11 YOU KNOW, WEAVE PROBABLY MAYBE IF WE COULD USE A MUTUAL AID
15:33:19 AGREEMENT TO DO SOME STUFF, THAT OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T HAVE
15:33:22 THE STAFF.
15:33:24 I AM JUST CURIOUS.
15:33:26 MAYBE SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO TO SEE WHO TO GET IN TOUCH
15:33:29 WITH, MAYBE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE CAN COME IN AND BE ABLE TO
15:33:34 MOVE CLOSER.
15:33:35 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
15:33:37 MR. GUDES, WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT ISSUE.
15:33:41 I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THAT'S PENDING.
15:33:44 THE MAJOR ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORTH ESPECIALLY FOR
15:33:48 THE CITY.
15:33:48 SO WE WILL WORK TO SEE WHO WE CAN COORDINATE WITH REGARDING
15:33:53 THAT.
15:33:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU NEED A MOTION OR JUST --
15:33:57 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: WE'LL HANDLE IT.
15:33:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
15:34:00 YES, SIR.
15:34:00 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, ALL
15:34:04 YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
15:34:05 SO YOU ARE LOOKING AT HAVING WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT BY
15:34:11 JUNE, JULY, WHAT YOU ARE THINKING?
15:34:15 >>OCEA WYNN: WE COMMIT TO HAVING IT TO YOU BY JULY AND
15:34:17 DEFINITELY BEFORE WE SEND OUT THE NOTIFICATIONS.
15:34:20 SO THE NOTIFICATIONS WILL STILL GO OUT.
15:34:22 THESE ARE THE ONES THAT SAY YOU HAVE TO STAFF CERTIFY.
15:34:25 BUT THIS YEAR THEY ARE SAYING YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO
15:34:32 SELF-CERTIFY.
15:34:33 >>LUIS VIERA: MAYBE WE COULD MOTION TO HAVE THIS COME BACK
15:34:35 TO US IN JUNE OR JULY FOR A SUMMARY AND UPDATE OF WHAT'S
15:34:40 GOING TO BE GIVEN, AND TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL OPTIONS.
15:34:43 I KNOW THAT OTHER CITIES AND JURISDICTIONS SUCH AS BROWARD
15:34:48 AND GAINESVILLE HAVE A DIFFERENT ORDINANCE THAT DEAL WITH
15:34:51 THIS USUAL YOU AS WELL, BUT MAYBE WE COULD JUST HAVE THIS
15:34:55 JUST COME BACK TO US IN JUNE.
15:34:58 DOES THAT SOUND --
15:35:00 >>OCEA WYNN: MAY I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION?
15:35:02 SINCE WE ARE SENDING -- STARTING A NEW PROCESS, I WOULD LIKE
15:35:07 TO BE BRING BACK HOW THAT'S WORKING.
15:35:09 SO IF WE CAN JUST PUSH IT OUT MAYBE TO AUGUST.
15:35:13 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE WEBSITE IS WORKING OR IS NOT
15:35:17 WORKING.
15:35:17 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THAT'S A GREAT IDEA SO WE CAN SEE WHAT'S
15:35:20 WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT WORKING AND WE CAN BUILD UPON IT
15:35:23 GIVEN THE EXPERIENCES OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
15:35:26 YES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
15:35:28 AGAIN THE REASON, I KNOW A LOT OF US FEEL VERY PASSIONATE
15:35:31 ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES
15:35:33 IN TAMPA AND THESE LARGE APARTMENTS WHERE YOU GO AND YOU
15:35:37 TAKE A LOOK AT THEM, AS MANY OF US HAVE DONE MANY, MANY
15:35:40 TIMES WHETHER IT'S SILVER OAKS OR TIMBER FALLS OR MANY OTHER
15:35:44 PLACES, AND IT'S JUST NOT HABITABLE, IT'S TERRIBLE, AND
15:35:48 PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THEIR RIGHTS.
15:35:50 EITHER THERE ARE MORAL AND EQUITABLE RIGHTS AND DIGNITY OR
15:35:54 LEGAL RIGHTS AND WHATNOT.
15:35:56 SO I COMMEND YOU GUYS FOR YOUR WORK IN THIS REGARD, AND I
15:36:00 MOTION FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
15:36:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO BRING BACK AN UPDATE, STAFF
15:36:04 REPORTS, AUGUST 25th.
15:36:07 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HURTAK.
15:36:10 YES, SIR?
15:36:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU THINK BY THAT TIME MAYBE YOU WILL
15:36:14 HAVE GOTTEN SOME ANSWERS YAY OR NAY REFERENCE THE MOTION?
15:36:20 >> YES, SIR.
15:36:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
15:36:25 ALL IN FAVOR?
15:36:26 ANY OPPOSED?
15:36:27 OKAY.
15:36:29 ITEM NUMBER 49.
15:36:31 COUNCILMEMBER VIERA'S MOTION.
15:36:32 >>LUIS VIERA: NOISE ORDINANCE, OF COURSE.
15:36:42 WE HAVE HAD A FINE GENTLEMAN SITTING HERE FOR A WHILE.
15:36:45 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ADMINISTRATOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
15:36:51 OPPORTUNITY.
15:36:52 COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU ASKED US TO PUT TOGETHER A PUBLIC
15:36:55 ENGAGEMENT PLAN IN ADVANCING THE EFFORTS TO AMEND THE NOISE
15:36:59 ORDINANCE, AND WHAT WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY IS A
15:37:04 ROUGH OUTLINE OF OUR ATTEMPT TO TACKLE THIS PUBLIC
15:37:07 ENGAGEMENT PIECE.
15:37:13 WE ARE PLANNING TO SCHEDULE TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS, ONE IN MAY
15:37:17 AND ONE IN JUNE, AND SEPARATE THEM ONE FOR RESIDENTS AND ONE
15:37:20 FOR BUSINESS OWNERS.
15:37:22 WHAT I PUT ON THE OVERHEAD IS JUST THE SAME THING I AM
15:37:25 TALKING TO YOU ABOUT NOW, IS THE TWO MEETINGS, AS WELL AS
15:37:29 THERE'S A PRIVATE CITIZEN GROUP THAT IS CONSISTENT FOR
15:37:36 RESIDENTIAL -- THANK YOU.
15:37:38 YEAH, THANK YOU.
15:37:42 BUT AS FAR AS THE ENGAGEMENT AND PUTTING THIS MEETING
15:37:45 TOGETHER.
15:37:46 SO WE'LL HAVE TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS, ONE FOR BUSINESS OWNERS
15:37:49 AND ONE FOR RESIDENTS THAT WE WILL HOLD IN MAY AND IN JUNE.
15:37:54 CONCURRENTLY THERE'S A PRIVATE CITIZENS GROUP THAT I KNOW
15:37:56 HAS REACHED OUT TO A NUMBER OF YOU THAT CONSISTS OF ITS A
15:38:00 DEVELOPER THAT HAS PUT THIS GROUP TOGETHER, BUSINESSES AND
15:38:03 RESIDENTIAL.
15:38:03 WE WOULD INVITE THEM TO THOSE TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE
15:38:07 ARE HOSTING, AS WELL AS THEY CAN CONCURRENTLY GO AHEAD TO
15:38:11 STUDY THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND DEVELOP SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
15:38:16 WE KNOW THAT ENFORCEMENT IS A BIG PART OF THIS NOISE
15:38:22 ORDINANCE.
15:38:22 WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE TAMPA POLICE
15:38:25 DEPARTMENT AND CAPTAIN OWEN.
15:38:27 THEY WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE AT THOSE MEETINGS, AS WELL AS WE
15:38:30 WILL SEEK INPUT TO ADDRESS OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND, SEPARATE
15:38:37 STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL AREAS VERSUS AREAS THAT HAVE HIGH
15:38:41 CONCENTRATION OF COMMERCIAL, RESTAURANTS AND BARS, AND WHAT
15:38:44 THAT MIXED USE MAY LOOK LIKE.
15:38:46 WE ARE ALSO GOING TO -- THERE'S A LOT OF CONFLICT BETWEEN
15:38:50 THE MIXED USE WHEN YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL ON TOP OF
15:38:52 COMMERCIAL.
15:38:52 WE ARE GOING TO PUT THAT OUT THERE TO SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY
15:38:55 SAYS, AS WELL.
15:38:56 SO I DO HAVE A REQUEST WITH THIS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PLAN TO
15:38:59 REQUEST THAT COUNCIL CONTINUE THE MAY 28th WORKSHOP
15:39:04 DISCUSSION REGARDING ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS.
15:39:07 WE BELIEVE THAT WITH THIS WE CAN IDENTIFY THOSE HIGH DENSE
15:39:11 COMMERCIAL AREAS AS WELL AS THE MIXED USE AREAS.
15:39:15 YOU HAVE SOUTH HOWARD.
15:39:16 OUR CODE DOES NOT IDENTIFY ANY SPECIFIC ENTERTAINMENT
15:39:21 DISTRICTS.
15:39:21 SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TAKE A LOOK AT YBOR AREA, AND
15:39:27 REALLY -- AS A PART OF THIS OUTREACH PROCESS, REALLY
15:39:30 IDENTIFY WHERE THOSE HIGH CONCENTRATION AREAS ARE TO MAKE
15:39:34 THAT REQUEST, AND THEN PRESENT A SCORECARD WITHOUT FINDINGS
15:39:38 AT A FUTURE WORKSHOP SO YOU CAN THEN TAKE A LOOK AT AREAS
15:39:41 THAT YOU MAY WANT TO DESIGNATE AS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS,
15:39:45 AS A PART OF THIS WORKSHOP.
15:39:47 IT'S REALLY NOT NECESSARILY TO CONTINUE BUT TO CONSOLIDATE
15:39:50 THE EFFORT IN THE AREA.
15:39:52 THE PRIVATE CITIZEN WORK GROUP, AGAIN WE WILL RUN
15:39:58 CONCURRENTLY AND INDEPENDENTLY FROM OUR TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS,
15:40:01 AND WE ARE REQUESTING THAT WE PRESENT OUR FINDINGS AND
15:40:04 RECOMMENDATIONS, WHETHER THAT IS PRIVATE CITIZENS GROUP
15:40:09 PRESENT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE WILL PRESENT OUR
15:40:11 FINDINGS FROM THESE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS AT AN OCTOBER
15:40:15 22ND, 2022 WORKSHOP.
15:40:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
15:40:21 >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK IT'S A GOOD EFFORT AND IDEA.
15:40:25 I THINK ONE MEETING FOR RESIDENTS IS NOT GOING TO CUT IT.
15:40:29 THIS IS A REALLY -- I MEAN, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE HUNDREDS
15:40:34 PEOPLE.
15:40:36 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IN ALL FAIRNESS WE HAVE HAD FIVE PUBLIC
15:40:39 WORKSHOPS BEFORE THIS, SO BEFORE I EVEN WAS HERE,
15:40:45 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, THERE WERE A SERIES OF PUBLIC
15:40:48 ENGAGEMENT MEETING WITH THE SPECIFIC BUSINESS DISTRICTS AND
15:40:50 RESIDENT IN THE AREA, AND I THINK THERE WERE A TOTAL OF FIVE
15:40:53 PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETINGS.
15:40:54 THEN THERE WAS A PUBLIC WORKSHOP.
15:40:56 WE DEVELOPED RECOMMENDATIONS.
15:40:59 COUNCIL THEN APPROVED AN ORDINANCE THAT HAD THOSE
15:41:04 RECOMMENDATIONS, SO THERE'S BEEN A CERTAIN LEVEL OF
15:41:09 OUTREACH, AND I COULD PROVIDE YOU MINUTES FROM THOSE
15:41:11 MEETINGS AND THE NOTES.
15:41:13 BUT THAT'S WHY WE WERE THINKING OF SEPARATING BUSINESSES AND
15:41:18 RESIDENTS, AND I DO AGREE THIS IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING.
15:41:21 >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY REASON I SUGGEST IT IS BECAUSE OF
15:41:25 WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED.
15:41:26 THERE HAVE BEEN MEETINGS THAT AGAIN COMING FROM THE
15:41:30 COMMUNITY SIDE, PEOPLE HEARD, OH, IT'S BEING REPEALED.
15:41:35 SO EVERYONE THINKS, OKAY, WE ARE STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
15:41:39 AND I AM JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE THE
15:41:41 OVERLYING FEELING.
15:41:42 AND I AM GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO
15:41:45 THINK ONE MEETING IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH.
15:41:47 SO GOOD LUCK ON THAT.
15:41:49 BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE MORE THAN ONE MEETING.
15:41:51 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I DON'T DISAGREE.
15:41:53 IF YOU DO DESIRE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC MEETINGS, I AM GOING TO
15:41:57 ASK YOU FOR MORE TIME TO REPORT BACK IN OCTOBER.
15:42:01 WE CAN'T STAFF THE AMOUNT OF MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE
15:42:03 CONCURRENTLY WITH THE OTHER INITIATIVES AND THINGS THAT WE
15:42:06 ARE DOING PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON RIGHT NOW.
15:42:10 SO I DON'T DISAGREE.
15:42:12 AND WE ARE NOT DISAGREEING TO DO MORE OUTREACH.
15:42:16 WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY CLEAR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON WHICH
15:42:19 AMENDMENT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO PRESENT TO THE RESIDENTS AND
15:42:24 TO THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OWNERS.
15:42:26 AND SO THIS OUTREACH IS REALLY TO LISTEN TO THEM, TAKE NOTES
15:42:30 ON WHAT WERE THE COMMON THEMES, PRESENT THAT BACK TO YOU AT
15:42:34 THAT OCTOBER WORKSHOP, WHILE WE HAVE THE PRIVATE CITIZEN
15:42:38 GROUP.
15:42:39 THEY WILL PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS.
15:42:42 WE HAVE SPOKEN TO THE DEVELOPER THAT HAS ORGANIZED THAT
15:42:45 GROUP.
15:42:46 I THINK THAT IS A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THEM TO HAVE
15:42:49 THEIR MEETING AND PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS.
15:42:52 AND THEN WE WERE THINKING AT THE WORKSHOP, THIS WILL BE A
15:42:55 WORKING SESSION BETWEEN STAFF AND COUNCIL, AND BASED ON WHAT
15:42:58 THE FINDINGS ARE, YOU HEAR FROM THE PRIVATE GROUP, WE CAN
15:43:01 DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS TOGETHER THAT WE CAN THEN PUT IN AN
15:43:04 ORDINANCE TO MOVE FORWARD.
15:43:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
15:43:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IN THEORY IT SOUND GOOD.
15:43:11 BUT IN REALITY, I DON'T NOBODY HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK.
15:43:16 SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO GET RESULTS.
15:43:17 YOU REALLY -- THINK THAT YOUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT IS
15:43:22 GOING TO SPEND MONEY TO ADVERTISE, TV AND RADIO, SO PEOPLE
15:43:25 CAN KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.
15:43:27 I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE MAYBE AN OUTSOURCE PERSON TO
15:43:30 DO THIS, OR COMPANY TO DO THIS WORK.
15:43:34 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: TO DO THE WORKSHOPS?
15:43:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TO DO THE ENGAGEMENT.
15:43:37 THIS IS A BIG DEAL, BIG THING WITH THE PEOPLE.
15:43:40 YOU JUST SAID IT'S A BIG UNDERTAKING.
15:43:42 SO WHY UNDERTAKING SOMETHING -- IT COULD TAKE LONGER TO DO
15:43:46 RATHER THAN JUST GO AHEAD AND SPEND THE MONEY ASK, THIS
15:43:48 COUNCIL FOR THE MONEY, THE COST TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AS A
15:43:51 WHOLE, THIS WHOLE CITY, ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, AS IT DEALS
15:43:56 WITH ENFORCEMENT, WHATEVER, AND LET SOMEBODY ELSE RUN WITH
15:43:58 THE BALL AND BRING BACK THE RESULTS TO YOU, AND THEN WE GO
15:44:01 AHEAD AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO BE DO.
15:44:03 BUT TO JUST KEEP KICKING IT AND KICKING IT --
15:44:07 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IN ALL FAIRNESS WE ARE NOT KICKING THE CAN
15:44:09 DOWN THE ROAD.
15:44:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND.
15:44:11 THE SUBJECT OF THE PUBLIC USE WE KEEP PUTTING IT OFF.
15:44:14 WE HAVE TO GET SOME CLOSURE SOONER VERSUS THAN LATER.
15:44:17 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I DON'T DISAGREE, COUNCILMAN GUDES, WHICH
15:44:21 IS WHY WE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN THIS COUNCIL
15:44:24 REPEALED THE ORDINANCE.
15:44:25 AND SO WHAT I AM PROPOSING TO YOU, I THINK, IS THE QUICKEST
15:44:30 WAY FOR US TO GET SOME RESOLUTION.
15:44:32 IF WE WERE TO ENGAGE SOMEONE, I ALWAYS ACCEPT HELP WHEN WE
15:44:38 NEED HELP, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE PROCUREMENT AND
15:44:40 GETTING SOMEONE ON BOARD AND DOING THAT IS GOING TO TAKE
15:44:44 LONGER THAN THAT.
15:44:45 WE HAVE DONE, NOT WE, STAFF, THIS COUNCIL HAS DONE A LOT OF
15:44:48 LEG WORK OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF ON THIS ISSUE THROUGH
15:44:51 ENGAGEMENT, AND WE KNOW THAT THE FIVE ISSUES THAT CAME BACK
15:44:56 TO COUNCIL WERE COMMON THEMES.
15:44:58 YOU KNOW, THEY WERE THE DEFINITIONS OF THE ORDINANCE.
15:45:01 A LOT OF THINGS ARE RECURING THEMES.
15:45:03 ENFORCEMENT WAS A BIG PART WHICH IS WHY WE BROUGHT THOSE
15:45:07 FIVE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK.
15:45:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU HAD THESE FIVE MEETINGS.
15:45:13 TELL ME THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE TO THESE
15:45:15 MEETINGS.
15:45:16 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: COUNCILMAN GUDES, I WOULD HAVE TO GET A
15:45:19 SIGN-UP SHEET.
15:45:20 I CAME PREPARED TO PRESENT TO YOU AN ENGAGEMENT PLAN THAT
15:45:23 YOU ASKED US TO DO AFTER THE ORDINANCE WAS REPEALED.
15:45:27 THAT'S WHAT I AM HERE -- I CAN REQUEST THAT INFORMATION.
15:45:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD ASK, I WOULD ASK, MOVING FORWARD,
15:45:33 AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TWO MEETINGS, TWO DIFFERENT
15:45:36 MEETINGS, THAT YOU MAKE SURE TO HAVE REAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
15:45:41 SO YOU CAN REALLY HAVE THE PUBLIC THERE.
15:45:43 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I THINK WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE IT IN THE
15:45:45 BUDGET FOR US TO EXTEND OUR OUTREACH JUST BEYOND FACEBOOK,
15:45:50 EVEN IF WE DID PAID ADS.
15:45:52 I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY PUSH OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS AND I
15:45:55 CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU WHAT WE DID TO ENHANCE OUR OUTREACH
15:45:59 EFFORTS.
15:45:59 WE DEFINITELY CAN ABSORB THAT AND DO THAT IN THE BUDGET NOW
15:46:03 WITH THE PLAN THAT I AM PROPOSING TO YOU RIGHT NOW.
15:46:06 MY FRIEND IS HERE SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH ME AND HAS BEEN
15:46:10 WAITING PATIENTLY TO SPEAK.
15:46:12 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
15:46:14 COUNCIL, I THINK WHAT MS. TRAVIS IS TRYING TO EXPLAIN IF YOU
15:46:17 RECALL, WE WENT THROUGH A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS AND
15:46:20 DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PRIOR AMENDMENT TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE,
15:46:23 AND I THINK WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE PUBLIC
15:46:26 ENGAGEMENT PLAN IS TO TRY TO FOCUS THE DISCUSSION, NOT TO
15:46:32 WHOLESALE REWRITE OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
15:46:34 THAT'S NOT WHAT WE UNDERTOOK LAST TIME AND IT'S NOT WHAT
15:46:37 COUNCIL APPROVED.
15:46:38 SO WE ARE TRYING TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE MAJOR AREAS OF
15:46:42 CONCERN, AND TRY TO DO THAT THROUGH THIS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
15:46:45 PROCESS, AND THEN COME BACK AND HAVE A BROAD DISCUSSION WITH
15:46:48 YOU AT THE OCTOBER WORKSHOP SO THAT COUNCIL CAN PROVIDE US
15:46:52 DIRECTION AS TO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCORPORATED INTO
15:46:55 AN ORDINANCE, THAT WE CAN DRAFT AND BRING BACK TO YOU.
15:46:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.
15:47:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:47:03 THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE WAS BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD FROM THE
15:47:07 CONSTITUENTS THAT BARS AND RESTAURANTS WERE STARTING TO
15:47:09 ENCROACH IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
15:47:11 YOU WOULD HAVE AMPLIFIED SOUND COMING OUT OF THE PATIO AREA
15:47:17 WHERE THE PATIO WAS ABUTTING SOME RESIDENTS AND THE MUSIC
15:47:23 WAS GOING ON UNTIL 2:00 OR 3:00 IN THE MORNING.
15:47:26 AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
15:47:27 I WAS HOPING THIS ORDINANCE WOULD HAVE A BLANKET EFFECT
15:47:29 THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY AND THAT WE COULD THEN CARVE OUT
15:47:32 SECTIONS THAT WERE CLASSIFIED AS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
15:47:37 MOST PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA KNOW WHERE THE
15:47:39 ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS ARE.
15:47:41 YBOR CITY AND PARTS OF SOUTH HOWARD.
15:47:45 WELL, NOW WE ARE HAVING ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS THAT PEOPLE
15:47:50 ARE PERCEIVING ON FRANKLIN.
15:47:54 HOWEVER, WE ARE HAVING RESIDENTS COMPLAIN THERE.
15:47:58 ARMATURE WORKS IS CONSIDERED AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
15:48:01 HOWEVER, THERE'S RESIDENTIAL ALL AROUND IT.
15:48:05 SO I AM GLAD YOU POINTED OUT THAT, YES, THERE ARE
15:48:08 RESIDENTIAL AREAS, THERE ARE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, AND
15:48:11 NOW WE ARE SEEING THE MIXED USE WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAYING,
15:48:14 LISTEN, I HAVE GOT TO GET UP AT 6:00 IN THE MORNING, 7:00 IN
15:48:17 THE MORNING, AND THIS MUSIC IS STILL BLARING AT 1:00 OR 2:00
15:48:23 AT NIGHT.
15:48:24 SO AGAIN, THIS WAS WELL ON ITS WAY.
15:48:28 BEFORE THERE WAS A CHANGE OF HEART.
15:48:29 AND YOU ARE CORRECT, THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS WITH
15:48:32 THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS.
15:48:36 WE REPEALED IT.
15:48:38 THAT SET US BACK.
15:48:38 I THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK YOU ARE DOING AND I AM LOOKING
15:48:41 FORWARD TO WHAT YOU FIND OUT.
15:48:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
15:48:46 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OF THE THINGS I DID PROFESSIONALLY
15:48:49 BEFORE I TOOK THIS POSITION WAS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
15:48:52 SO IF YOU ALL WANT TO TALK ABOUT -- ONE OF THE THINGS I
15:48:58 WOULD RECOMMEND BECAUSE OF THE LONG TIMELINE, LET'S PROCEED
15:49:01 WITH WHAT YOU HAVE, BUT IT'S A MULTI-ROUND THING.
15:49:05 WE HAVE GOT TO KEEP ADAPTING IT.
15:49:07 AND WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF CONSENSUS AROUND SOME THINGS.
15:49:11 THAT'S WHY I VOTED TO KEEP THE LAST ORDINANCE BECAUSE I
15:49:13 WANTED TO DO SOMETHING.
15:49:14 WE UNDID IT.
15:49:15 SO WE NEED TO KEEP DOING SOMETHING.
15:49:18 JUST KEEP WORKING ON IT.
15:49:20 AND I THINK YOU SHOULD AT LEAST DO IT BY DISTRICT
15:49:23 EVENTUALLY, AND MAYBE EVEN SOME DISTRICTS LIKE IN ORLANDO'S
15:49:27 DISTRICT, HE'S GOT LIKE PARTS OF TAMPA HEIGHTS, SEMINOLE
15:49:32 HEIGHTS, AND THEN YBOR AND EAST TAMPA.
15:49:34 SO THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT AREAS, AND DOWNTOWN, WHICH ARE
15:49:38 VERY DIFFERENT.
15:49:39 AND SO I THINK EACH ONE HAS ITS OWN UNIQUE AREAS.
15:49:43 THE NEXT THING IS, PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH THE TERM
15:49:47 ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
15:49:49 THERE'S A MOTION THAT I MADE SOME TIME AGO THAT'S COMING UP,
15:49:52 I GUESS, TO LOOK AT WHERE WE CAN PUT AN ENTERTAINMENT
15:49:55 DISTRICT.
15:49:55 THERE ARE AREAS WHERE THERE'S ENTERTAINMENT.
15:49:57 BUT I WOULDN'T CALL ANY OF THEM ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS.
15:50:00 AND MY OFFICE IS IN YBOR.
15:50:02 I'M IN YBOR EVERY DAY AND I AM HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH
15:50:04 LEADERS AND OTHER PEOPLE IN YBOR, AND THERE IS A GROUP OF
15:50:07 PEOPLE WHO RUN THE DANCE CLUBS AND NIGHT CLUBS, AND WE NEED
15:50:11 THAT, AND WE NEED IT IN OTHER PLACES, TOO.
15:50:16 BUT JUST ABOUT ANYBODY YOU ASK IN YBOR TODAY, THEIR VISION
15:50:22 FOR YBOR IS NOT TO BE A QUOTE-UNQUOTE ENTERTAINMENT
15:50:25 DISTRICT.
15:50:26 THAT WAS A 90s VISION.
15:50:28 AS MR. MIRANDA SAID, YBOR HAS ALWAYS BEEN ENTERTAINMENT BUT
15:50:31 TURNING INTO A LATE NIGHT BAR DISTRICT ESPECIALLY WHEREOF
15:50:35 THERE ARE SHOOTINGS AFTER 3:00 LIKE HAPPENED LAST WEEKEND
15:50:39 AGAIN IS NOT THE VISION PEOPLE HAVE FOR YBOR.
15:50:41 AS WE GET A FEW THOUSAND MORE PEOPLE MOVING INTO YBOR WITH
15:50:44 ALL THE NEW UNITS, THE VISION IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY
15:50:46 DIFFERENT.
15:50:47 SO I WOULD JUST BE SENSITIVE.
15:50:48 WE WANT TO NOT HURT ANY OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE,
15:50:51 BUT AS THE LANDLORDS START TO TRANSITION THE USES OF THOSE
15:50:54 BUILDINGS WHICH THEY WANT TO DO, WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO
15:50:58 ALL THE RESIDENTS THERE, AND WE NEED TO HAVE THAT
15:51:00 COMBINATION.
15:51:01 WE HAVE URBAN AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE OFFICES,
15:51:06 ENTERTAINMENT, RESTAURANTS, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE AN
15:51:09 ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
15:51:10 AND PLEASE PUT A HUGE STAR, PLEASE DO NOT EVER CALL SOUTH
15:51:14 HOWARD AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
15:51:16 MY GRASS RATS NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT CAME FROM THERE, THIS
15:51:21 GROUP CATHOLIC ON TAMPA USED TO MEET AT HOG OH'S AND THE
15:51:26 WHOLE PURPOSE OF IT WAS TO PUSH BACK AGAINST THE BARS, AND
15:51:29 THE NEIGHBORHOODS LOST, BUT I GET CALLS ALMOST EVERY DAY OF
15:51:32 ANGRY PEOPLE.
15:51:33 IF WE HAD A MEETING WHERE WE CALLED SOUTH HOWARD AN
15:51:35 ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT WE WOULD HAVE 500 PEOPLE HERE REALLY,
15:51:39 REALLY MAD.
15:51:40 THEY WANT THE BARS SHUT DOWN.
15:51:41 NOW THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
15:51:45 AND THERE'S SOME GOOD ACTORS AND BAD ACTORS.
15:51:47 BUT THEY WOULD LOVE TO TURN IT INTO SOMETHING LIKE A
15:51:50 CULINARY DISTRICT WHERE YOU HAVE GOT BURN'S ON ONE END AND
15:51:53 CRAZY PARTY PLACE ON THE OTHER END.
15:51:56 AND EVENTUALLY IT'S GOING TO TRANSITION TO SOMETHING THAT'S
15:51:59 NOT 4:00 IN THE MORNING PARTYING AND THROWING STUFF ALL OVER
15:52:02 THE PLACE.
15:52:03 AND THAT HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE.
15:52:04 I ASKED THE QUESTION COULD IT GO IN DREW PARK?
15:52:07 DRAW PARK PEOPLE SAID NO.
15:52:09 BUT WE NEED AN OUTLET FOR THAT BUT IT CAN'T BE IN THE MIDDLE
15:52:12 OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
15:52:13 AND I REMEMBERED REMEMBER IN THE 90 WHEN JOHN AGRI WAS
15:52:18 LOOKING TO CONVERT RETAIL PLACES TO RESTAURANTS, WHAT CAN WE
15:52:22 ACTIVATE ALONG THERE?
15:52:24 THERE USED TO BE A HARDWARE STORE AND DRY CLEANER AND OTHER
15:52:27 KIND OF USES.
15:52:28 NOW THERE'S BARS AND PARTYING LATE AT NIGHT.
15:52:31 THAT'S NOT WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD EVER SIGNED UP FOR.
15:52:33 IT WASN'T LIKE THEY WERE THERE AND MOVED IN.
15:52:36 THE NEIGHBORS WERE THERE AND THEN THE BARS MOVED IN.
15:52:38 SO WE NEED TO CAREFULLY LOOK AT THAT, AND I THINK FIGURE
15:52:41 OUT, IN PARTICULAR, HOW TO SOLVE THE SOUTH HOWARD PROBLEM,
15:52:45 BECAUSE IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
15:52:47 AND THE LAST THING I WILL SAY IS I FORGOT WHAT WE DID WITH
15:52:51 CARS, BUT A LOT OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS WE GET IN
15:52:54 NEIGHBORHOOD IS CARS WHERE PEOPLE ARE OFFERING TO THE PUBLIC
15:52:56 FREE LOUD MUSIC, AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS DON'T WANT IT.
15:53:00 THE HOTEL OPERATORS IN YBOR NOW, IN JUST THE LAST WEEK OR
15:53:05 TWO, HAVE STARTED GETTING TWO, THREE STARS ON TRIP ADVISORS
15:53:09 AND OTHER PLACES BECAUSE OF THE LOUD MUSIC FROM CARS DRIVING
15:53:13 BY.
15:53:13 AND YOU SIT THERE AT KING CORONA, AND THE GLASS SHAKES
15:53:18 BECAUSE IT'S SO LOUD.
15:53:20 AND THAT I THINK IS AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
15:53:22 BUT EVEN IN A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE THINK THERE'S A LOT OF
15:53:25 ENTERTAINMENT WE NEED TO SOMEHOW STOP THAT.
15:53:28 WE HAVE ONE GENTLEMAN THAT COMES ALMOST EVERY WEEK ABOUT HOW
15:53:31 THE BOOM MUSIC IS GOING BY HIS HOUSE.
15:53:33 WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION FOR THAT, ESPECIALLY AFTER
15:53:36 10:00, 11:00 AT NIGHT.
15:53:38 THANK YOU.
15:53:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I HAD SAID THAT PEOPLE
15:53:44 PERCEIVE THE SOUTH HOWARD AS AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
15:53:49 MY SOUTH HOWARD WAS ONLY TINY TAP, MACDINTON'S AND SHADOW
15:53:56 BOX.
15:53:57 THAT WAS THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
15:54:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY ENTERTAINMENT IS A BOOK STORE AND --
15:54:04 [ LAUGHTER ]
15:54:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAPTAIN OWENS, I WANT YOU TO TELLS US, HOW
15:54:18 DO WE STOP LOUD CARS WITH SOUND?
15:54:20 I KNOW WRITING TICKETS, THAT'S A HARD TAP.
15:54:30 >> SO MANY SPEAKERS.
15:54:32 IT'S A DIFFICULT CHALLENGE THAT WE ARE FACING ACROSS THE
15:54:34 CITY.
15:54:34 I WOULD SAY DOWNTOWN, CHANNEL DISTRICT, SOHO, IT HAPPENS
15:54:37 EVERYWHERE.
15:54:38 WE FOLLOW THEM AROUND.
15:54:39 WE WRITE TICKETS.
15:54:41 IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT SEEMS TO BE A --
15:54:45 REOCCURRING THING.
15:54:46 I AM AWARE MR. DANIELS AND HIS ISSUES IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
15:54:50 IT'S NOT AN EASY THING TO FIX WHEN THEY SELL SPEAKERS EVERY
15:54:53 DAY.
15:54:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: EVERY DAY.
15:54:55 >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SAY, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE
15:54:58 NEED TO DO MOTIONWISE TO BRING THIS BACK?
15:55:05 THE NEXT STEP, I GUESS.
15:55:06 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
15:55:08 I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
15:55:12 SO THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, AGAIN, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A
15:55:15 LOT OF REFERENCE TO THAT.
15:55:16 I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF -- A COUPLE OF AREAS WHERE THERE ARE
15:55:20 CONCENTRATIONS OF ENTERTAINMENT VENUES, THAT CURRENTLY THE
15:55:23 CITY CODE DOES NOT DEFINE ANY AREA IN PARTICULAR AS AN
15:55:26 ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
15:55:27 SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LIKE TO -- AGAIN,
15:55:31 THERE'S A MOTION.
15:55:32 I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN CARLSON MADE IT.
15:55:34 THERE'S AN ITEM TO COME BACK, SCHEDULED TO COME BACK TO
15:55:37 COUNCIL AT YOUR MAY WORKSHOP AGENDA TO DISCUSS ESTABLISHMENT
15:55:42 OF ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS AND FIGURE OUT WHERE IT WOULD BE
15:55:45 APPROPRIATE IN THE CITY.
15:55:46 SO WE WOULD ASK YOU TO REMOVE THAT FROM YOUR WORKSHOP AGENDA
15:55:49 AND CONTINUE THAT ITEM TO THE OCTOBER WORKSHOP THAT WE
15:55:52 SUGGESTED TO BRING BACK ALL OF THESE ITEMS.
15:55:55 AND THEN IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CERTAIN AREAS
15:56:05 DESIGNATED AS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, ARE YOU ALSO ASKING
15:56:08 US TO HAVE SEPARATE REGULATIONS THAT WOULD GOVERN THEM AS
15:56:12 FAR AS NOISE, OR OTHER ASPECTS OF THESE ENTERTAINMENT
15:56:16 DISTRICTS?
15:56:17 BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE THAT DO
15:56:20 DEFINE, YOU KNOW, MIAMI IS ONE AREA, CITY OF ORLANDO HAS
15:56:24 ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, BUT THEY TREAT THOSE AREAS
15:56:26 DIFFERENTLY IN CERTAIN ASPECTS.
15:56:29 SO IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD ALSO LIKE US TO CONSIDER?
15:56:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND IF WE ARE GOING TO GO THE DIRECTION OF
15:56:38 ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEFINE
15:56:42 THOSE DISTRICTS.
15:56:43 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE PERMANENT BOUNDARIES.
15:56:46 BECAUSE I HATE TO SEE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW A PERSON
15:56:49 WANTING TO OPEN A BAR OR SOMETHING AND THEY SAY, WAIT A
15:56:53 SECOND, ACROSS THE STREET THEY CAN HAVE IT.
15:56:55 HOW COME I CAN'T?
15:56:56 SO THOSE AREAS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY STRICT.
15:56:59 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO CAUTION
15:57:03 AGAINST CALLING AREAS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW.
15:57:06 THE WAY THAT YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT IS DEFINED AND AS
15:57:09 COUNCIL MAY RECALL, THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE NOISE IS
15:57:12 MEASURED ON A DECIBEL LEVEL.
15:57:13 BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE 7th AVENUE OR 8th AVENUE
15:57:16 STRIPE.
15:57:17 IT GOES ALL THE WAY NORTH OF I-4.
15:57:18 IT GOES WELL EAST OF THE 22ND AVENUE.
15:57:21 SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT TERMS WE ARE USING AT
15:57:26 THIS POINT.
15:57:27 AND SO PART OF OUR EFFORT WE WANTED TO INCLUDE WAS TO FIGURE
15:57:31 OUT WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE.
15:57:32 AND I KNOW THAT WE TALKED TO TPD ABOUT GETTING AGREES AND
15:57:41 THINGS LIKE THAT TO HAVE A GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION SO IT
15:57:43 MAKES IT EASIER FOR TPD TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE
15:57:47 AND MAKES ENFORCEMENT, ENHANCES ENFORCEMENT FOR THEM.
15:57:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM SO GLAD YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE ANYTHING
15:57:53 EAST OF 22ND STREET WILL BE PERCEIVED AS RESIDENTIAL.
15:57:56 ANYTHING NORTH OF 10th OR PALM WILL BE PERCEIVED AS
15:58:00 RESIDENTIAL.
15:58:01 SO THANK YOU.
15:58:02 >> SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
15:58:06 >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
15:58:08 >>BILL CARLSON: THE ITEM, I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE DETAILS,
15:58:11 BUT THE ITEMS THAT YOU JUST REFERENCED TO LOOK AT
15:58:13 ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, IF WE COULD MOVE IT, I MAKE A
15:58:16 MOTION TO MOVE IT TO OCTOBER --
15:58:19 >> OCTOBER 26th?
15:58:22 27th.
15:58:22 >>BILL CARLSON: OCTOBER 27th TO APPEAR --
15:58:26 >> WITH THE OTHER NOISE, YES.
15:58:28 >>BILL CARLSON: WITH THE OTHER NOISE ORDINANCE.
15:58:34 >> AND I WILL SECOND THAT.
15:58:36 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND BY COUNCIL
15:58:40 VIERA.
15:58:41 ALL IN FAVOR?
15:58:42 ANY OPPOSED?
15:58:43 ARE WE GOOD?
15:58:44 >>BILL CARLSON: WAS THERE ANOTHER MOTION?
15:58:47 >> WE ARE GOING TO PROCEED WITH THE PLAN AS MRS. TRAVIS
15:58:49 OUTLINED.
15:58:50 AND LET ME REMIND COUNCIL WHEN WE BROUGHT FORWARD THE PRAYER
15:58:53 NOISE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, WE CAME TO YOU AT A WORKSHOP, WE
15:58:57 THEN INCORPORATED THOSE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COUNCIL
15:58:59 APPROVED INTO AN ORDINANCE, WHICH WE THEN BROUGHT BACK TO
15:59:02 YOU AT ANOTHER WORKSHOP.
15:59:04 SO THERE WILL BE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, AS
15:59:08 WE PERCEIVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
15:59:09 IT WON'T JUST BE THESE TWO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS.
15:59:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR?
15:59:15 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION.
15:59:17 I THINK I REMEMBER FROM A PRIOR MEETING THAT THERE ARE ONLY
15:59:21 TWO DECIBEL METERS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND WE NEEDED
15:59:25 TO BUY MORE.
15:59:26 I DO REMEMBER THAT CORRECTLY?
15:59:27 >> THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED.
15:59:29 WE SHOULD HAVE THEM THE MIDDLE OF NEXT MONTH.
15:59:31 >>BILL CARLSON: HOW MANY DID WE BUY?
15:59:33 >> SIX.
15:59:33 THAT'S SUFFICIENT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW ALL WE HAVE IS YBOR
15:59:36 CITY.
15:59:36 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
15:59:37 I THINK IN YOUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT YOU OUGHT TO MAKE SURE
15:59:40 THAT PUBLIC LEADERS KNOW ABOUT THAT, TOO.
15:59:42 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
15:59:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR HELPING YBOR
15:59:47 CITY THROUGH ALL THIS TIME, A GREAT RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL
15:59:52 SECTION OF OUR CITY.
15:59:54 THANK YOU, CAPTAIN OWEN.
15:59:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 50,
15:59:58 COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL HAVE TO LEAVE AFTER THIS ITEM.
16:00:00 WE STILL HAVE TWO ITEMS, 52 AND 53.
16:00:05 ARE WE GOOD WITH FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS LISTENING TO THOSE
16:00:09 LAST TWO ITEMS?
16:00:10 OR PERHAPS POSTPONING THEM TO THE END OF NEXT WEEK'S
16:00:14 WORKSHOP?
16:00:14 BECAUSE I SEE THERE'S A MAY 2nd DEADLINE HERE.
16:00:18 WHAT DO YOU THINK, MS. FEELEY?
16:00:20 DO YOU HAVE BOTH ITEMS OR JUST 52?
16:00:23 >>ABBYE FEELEY: DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
16:00:24 MANAGEMENT.
16:00:25 WE ONLY HAVE ITEM 52 AND THAT DOES REQUIRE TRANSMITTAL TO
16:00:28 THE STATE FOR THAT FUNDING BY MAY 2nd.
16:00:31 SO I WOULD ASK, WE HAVE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION.
16:00:35 IT'S ABOUT EIGHT SLIDES, AND WE PLAN TO KEEP IT BRIEF.
16:00:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABOUT WHAT ABOUT 53?
16:00:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
16:00:47 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE JUST MOVE IT WITHOUT THE
16:00:48 PRESENTATION ON 52?
16:00:51 >> THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE DONE WITH THE PRESENTATION TO
16:00:53 YOU.
16:00:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE NEED TO HEAR 53 TODAY?
16:00:57 CAN WE POSTPONE IT TO PERHAPS THE END OF NEXT THURSDAY'S
16:01:01 WORKSHOP?
16:01:01 >>ROB ROSNER: THERE'S NO TIME CERTAIN BUT IT'S BEEN DELAYED
16:01:08 ONCE.
16:01:08 >> IT'S A MATTER OF HAVING THE CONSULTANTS AND DO THE
16:01:14 PRESENTATION.
16:01:15 AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE.
16:01:19 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S FINE, THAT'S FINE.
16:01:20 KEEP IT TEN MINUTES.
16:01:21 >>ROB ROSNER: IT WAS JUST AN OVERVIEW.
16:01:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE MARCIE HAMILTON AND CARL BRODY.
16:01:36 >> CARL BRODY FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO REPORT TO
16:01:39 YOU TO PROVIDE SOME OPTIONS FOR CREATING A SECOND CHANCE OF
16:01:44 BAN THE BOX ORDINANCE.
16:01:48 WE WENT ACROSS COUNTRY TO DETERMINE WHAT THE VIABILITY OF
16:01:52 DIFFERENT AVAILABLE BAN THE BOX ORDINANCES.
16:01:56 WE FOUND AFTER DOING SOME INTERNAL RESEARCH FIRST TO MAKE
16:02:00 SURE THAT WE FELT COMFORTABLE THAT IF WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY
16:02:04 CHALLENGE TO IT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SURVIVE.
16:02:06 WE FELT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE ON A COURT LEVEL
16:02:11 DETERMINING THAT IT WOULD BE -- ANY CHALLENGE WOULD JUST
16:02:14 HAVE TO BE REASONABLENESS STANDARD WHICH MEANS WE WOULD JUST
16:02:18 HAVE TO GET ENOUGH SUPPORT PREDICATE, AS THEY SAY, TO
16:02:22 SUPPORT THE DECISION TO HAVE A BAN THE BOX ORDINANCE FOR THE
16:02:26 CITY, AND THE SUPPORT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM, WHICH
16:02:34 IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER TODAY WHEN WE HAD THE GROUPS UP
16:02:40 HERE TO DISCUSS THE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS THAT ARISE FROM EX
16:02:47 OFFENDERS NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND SUFFICIENT EMPLOYMENT.
16:02:50 SO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
16:02:52 WE LOOKED AROUND THE STATE AND WE SAW THAT REALLY SEVERAL
16:02:59 MUNICIPALITIES AND OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DO HAVE
16:03:02 PROVISIONS.
16:03:05 MOST OF THEM DON'T HAVE THEM IN THEIR ORDINANCE.
16:03:09 MOST OF THEM DO HR AND OTHER MATTERS.
16:03:11 BUT THE PRIMARY COMPARABLES THAT WE FOUND WERE IN BROWARD
16:03:14 COUNTY AND MIAMI BEACH, AND IN JACKSONVILLE.
16:03:18 SO EACH OF THEM PROVIDE DIFFERENT ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS,
16:03:24 WHICH IS A REAL ISSUE.
16:03:26 ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS FOR THESE ARE EITHER THE RFP PROCESS,
16:03:32 DEPARTMENT, IF A CONTRACTOR DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE
16:03:36 REQUIREMENTS OF PERMITTING SOME TYPE OF BAN THE BOX, SECOND
16:03:42 CHANCE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.
16:03:44 WE ALSO HAVE PENALTIES WHERE -- NONRESPONSIVE BID.
16:03:53 SO IF PART OF THE BID DID NOT INCLUDE ASSURANCE THAT THEY
16:04:00 WERE GOING TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S BAN THE BOX
16:04:03 REQUIREMENTS, THEN THEY WOULD BE DEEMED NONRESPONSIVE, WHICH
16:04:07 MEANS THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO NOT GO FORWARD.
16:04:09 AND WE ALSO CAN WITHHOLD PAYMENT FOR NONCOMPLIANCE.
16:04:13 SEPARATELY, IF WE WANT TO INCLUDE A POINT SYSTEM, WE COULD
16:04:16 DO THAT, AND THAT WOULD BE TO ADD UNDER THE RFP, CNA
16:04:22 PROCESS.
16:04:22 SO THOSE ARE KIND OF OUR OPTIONS OUT THERE IN TERMS OF
16:04:25 MOVING FORWARD, SOME KIND OF ORDINANCE, TO FURTHER ENFORCE
16:04:30 WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME
16:04:34 PROVISIONS IN PLACE, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE
16:04:37 CITY OF TAMPA AS AN EMPLOYER.
16:04:39 THE CITY OF TAMPA ITSELF DOES NOT DO A BACKGROUND CHECK
16:04:43 UNTIL AFTER THE PERSON HAS BEEN DEEMED A FINALIST FOR THE
16:04:47 POSITION.
16:04:47 SO WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE.
16:04:49 IF WE WANT TO EXPAND THAT TO REQUIRE VENDORS AND CONTRACTORS
16:04:52 WHO WE WORK WITH TO INCLUDE PROVISIONS LIKE THAT, WE CAN.
16:04:57 WE JUST HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT OPTIONS WE WANT TO TAKE IN
16:04:59 TERMS OF THE COMMITTEE.
16:05:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I TALKED TO MR. BENNETT YESTERDAY ABOUT
16:05:08 THIS.
16:05:11 YOU KNOW, I HAVE SEEN BAN THE BOX A LONG TIME.
16:05:17 IF WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE THAT MAKING IT WORK, AS SOON AS THE
16:05:21 PERSON COMES IN, THEY ASK, AND THE APPLICATION IS IN THE
16:05:25 TRASH, AND THEY MOVE FORWARD TO A FINAL PROCESS.
16:05:33 BUT I BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE PROBLEM, YOU ARE TALKING
16:05:35 ABOUT PUTTING THIS ORDINANCE TOGETHER, AND MAKING A CONTRACT
16:05:42 THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY USE, YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOME ASSURANCE TO
16:05:46 GO ALONG WITH THAT.
16:05:48 >>CARL BRODY: CORRECT.
16:05:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE, THEY ARE BEING TOLD
16:05:55 BY THEIR CARRIERS, DON'T DO THAT.
16:05:59 THAT'S WHERE YOU RUN INTO A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE BOARD OF
16:06:02 HEALTH.
16:06:02 I THINK WHAT MR. BENNETT WAS TALKING ABOUT, HOPEFULLY YOU
16:06:05 CAN GO BACK AND RESEARCH THAT SO WE CAN BE ABLE TO LOOK AND
16:06:08 SEE, WHERE IS THERE INSURANCE, BUT WHERE IS THE PROCESS
16:06:13 WHERE WE CAN HELP THAT CONTRACTOR TO HELP US GET PEOPLE
16:06:17 EMPLOYED TO BE ABLE TO GET THEM EMPLOYED THROUGH THE
16:06:20 PROCESS.
16:06:21 SO I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND KIND OF RESEARCH
16:06:24 THAT, AND THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HELP SOME OF THESE FOLKS.
16:06:28 BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR CHALLENGE.
16:06:30 JUST BEING HONEST.
16:06:31 THAT IS GOING TO BE THE BIG CHALLENGE.
16:06:33 TALKING ABOUT CONTRACTORS AND PEOPLE WANT TO HIRE PEOPLE,
16:06:36 PUT BAN THE BOX ON HERE, WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO FIND IS YOU
16:06:39 ARE GOING TO FIND, THE CARRIER SAYS NO, OR WE CAN'T DO THIS.
16:06:44 I THINK WE HAVE TO PUT ANOTHER STEP IN THERE SO THEY CAN'T
16:06:47 SAY NO, SO WE HAVE AN INSURANCE POLICY, WE HAVE A BOND THAT
16:06:51 YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THAT SO THEY CAN'T GO THROUGH THE
16:06:54 PROCESS.
16:06:54 >>CARL BRODY: THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO.
16:07:00 IT'S NOT SOME OF THE OTHER COMPARABLES --
16:07:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE
16:07:05 SEEN -- LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T GET THAT ROADBLOCK OUT OF THE
16:07:10 WAY SOMEWHAT TO BE ABLE TO STOP THAT.
16:07:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
16:07:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
16:07:15 AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
16:07:17 AND CHIEF BENNETT AND THEN BRAD BAIRD ON THIS ISSUE MAYBE
16:07:25 EIGHT, NINE, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE MONTHS AGO WHEN WE BEGAN
16:07:29 THIS PROCESS AND WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD COALITION OF PEOPLE
16:07:31 WHO SUPPORT THESE PROPOSALS INCLUDING FLORIDA RIGHTS
16:07:34 COALITION, JCC FEDERATION, OUR FRIEND IN THE CHAMBER OF
16:07:37 COMMERCE, AND REVEREND ABE BROWN MINISTRIES THAT HAVE BEEN
16:07:40 DOING THIS FOR SO VERY LONG, NATIONALLY ABOUT THREE QUARTERS
16:07:45 OF A MILLION AMERICANS WHO ARE RELEASED FROM INCARCERATION
16:07:48 EVERY YEAR AND STATS SHOW ABOUT TWO THIRD OF THOSE FOLKS ARE
16:07:51 RETURNING TO PRISON OR REARRESTED WITHIN THREE YEARS.
16:07:54 SO I THINK THAT IT'S ON LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO DO WHAT WE CAN
16:07:59 TO HELP ADDRESS THIS CRISIS FOR OUR FAMILIES, FOR OUR
16:08:04 COMMUNITIES, THAT RESULTS IN BROKEN FAMILIES, VIOLENT CRIME
16:08:08 AND SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
16:08:09 I KNOW CHIEF BENNETT SPOKE FROM THE HEART ON THE MANY THINGS
16:08:12 THAT HE HAS DONE.
16:08:13 I KNOW THAT HE'S TAKEN STEPS IN THIS ADMINISTRATION TO
16:08:17 INCREASE RECRUITMENT, AND HAVE A BROADER PICTURE FOR
16:08:21 RETURNING CITIZENS.
16:08:22 SO WHAT I AM GOING TO BE MOTIONING FOR IS A FEW THINGS,
16:08:26 WHICH IS, NUMBER ONE, I WANT AN ORDINANCE TO COME BACK FOR
16:08:31 US THAT HAS CONTRACTORS GIVEN ADDITIONAL POINTS TO
16:08:37 ENCOURAGEMENT TO, NUMBER ONE, BAN THE BOX, BUT NUMBER TWO,
16:08:40 AND I WILL LEAVE THIS TO YOU ALL WHEN IT COMES IN THE
16:08:43 SPECIFICS, ON A COMMITMENT ON HIRING RETURNING CITIZENS.
16:08:48 AND I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IN THAT -- AND I WANT TO
16:08:51 SPECIFY THIS -- IS NOT -- BECAUSE I SPOKE TO FLORIDA RIGHTS
16:08:55 RESTORATION COALITION ON THIS AND THEY GAVE ME A GOOD
16:08:58 POINTER WHICH IS IT'S NOT HIRING ON THE FRONT END BUT MAKING
16:09:01 SURE THAT THEY STAY WITH IT TOWARD THE END SO THEY DON'T
16:09:05 JUST HIRE THEM TO LET THEM GO.
16:09:07 WE HIRED THEM.
16:09:08 NOW WE ARE GOING TO LET THEM GO.
16:09:09 WE DON'T WANT THAT.
16:09:11 NUMBER TWO IS, I WANT SOMETHING TO COME BACK, BECAUSE I KNOW
16:09:15 CHIEF BENNETT HAS WORKED ON THIS AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING
16:09:18 WE OUGHT TO PROMOTE AS A CITY THAT WE ARE DOING INTERNALLY,
16:09:21 WHICH IS TO REPORT ANNUALLY ON THE NUMBER OF HIRED RETURNING
16:09:24 CITIZENS BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
16:09:27 AND THAT CAN BE SEPARATE.
16:09:28 BUT I DON'T THINK THAT NEED TO BE PART OF AN ORDINANCE BUT I
16:09:32 THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
16:09:33 THE THIRD PART IS IT'S NOT PART OF AN ORDINANCE BUT I HAVE
16:09:35 BEEN WORKING WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONER GWEN MYERS IN
16:09:40 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMISSION ON A JOINT CITY-COUNTY
16:09:45 APPRENTICESHIP, AND IF IT'S APPRENTICESHIP, OBVIOUSLY STATE
16:09:48 CERTIFIED APPRENTICESHIP, OR TRAINING PROGRAM FOR RETURNING
16:09:51 CITIZENS.
16:09:52 IT CAN EITHER BE A GRANT FOR A PROGRAM LIKE READY FOR WORK,
16:09:58 ABE BROWN MINISTRIES, COUNTY BE A SEPARATE PROGRAM,
16:10:01 COMMISSIONER MYERS IS SEEKING, I BELIEVE, ABOUT $150 THAT
16:10:05 YOU.
16:10:05 I WOULD LOVE FOR THE CITY TO MATCH THAT.
16:10:10 >> WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
16:10:13 ON THAT, SO THERE WERE SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS THERE.
16:10:17 BUT THAT WAS PART OF YOUR MOTION, AND WE ARE DEFINITELY
16:10:21 MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
16:10:23 BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO TAKE COORDINATION BETWEEN BOTH
16:10:25 OF US.
16:10:27 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
16:10:28 AND THE REASON THAT I AM DOING THIS IS A TEST PILOT BY GOING
16:10:31 ON FIRST BASE IS I WANT TO WIN THE CONFIDENCE OF TAXPAYERS
16:10:36 ON THIS ISSUE.
16:10:37 I WANT TO GET THIS ISSUE INTO THE MAINSTREAM 100%.
16:10:40 THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT IS LEFT OR RIGHT.
16:10:43 THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT AFFECT ALL OF OUR FAMILIES.
16:10:45 AND WE HAVE TO GIVE UP TO THE EXTENT THAT WE HAVE IT, I
16:10:49 CERTAINLY HAD IT IN MY LIFE, THE HYPOCRISY AND THE BIAS.
16:10:56 IT'S UN-AMERICAN, IN MY OPINION IT'S UNCHRISTIAN.
16:11:00 THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.
16:11:01 I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE SEPARATED IT INTO A FEW MOTIONS.
16:11:04 SO FIRST, MR. CHAIRMAN, FIRST I WOULD MOTION FOR AN
16:11:08 ORDINANCE.
16:11:08 HOW LONG DO YOU ALL NEED ON THAT?
16:11:10 >>CARL BRODY: SAY 60 DAYS?
16:11:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JULY 14th.
16:11:17 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD MOTION THAT STAFF COME BACK WITH A
16:11:21 DRAFT ORDINANCE ON ENCOURAGEMENT OF CONTRACTORS TO, NUMBER
16:11:26 ONE, HIRE RETURNING CITIZENS AND NUMBER TWO, TO BAN THE BOX,
16:11:30 ON THAT.
16:11:31 THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST MOTION.
16:11:32 AND COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE INSURANCE ISSUE.
16:11:36 I WANT TO INCORPORATE THAT.
16:11:38 THAT'S VERY CRITICAL.
16:11:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE] WE CAN SEE HOW WE CAN DO
16:11:54 THAT.
16:11:56 I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A KEY COMPONENT TO SAYING, OKAY,
16:12:00 WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, BUT TWO DAYS, A WEEK, AND YOU ARE
16:12:05 GONE.
16:12:06 THAT'S KEY.
16:12:06 >>CARL BRODY: THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS WE CAN LOOK INTO ON
16:12:12 THAT END.
16:12:13 YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE THIS IS PROVIDING PUBLIC
16:12:15 FUNDS TO A PRIVATE ENTITY, NOT FOR A SERVICE, WHICH IS
16:12:19 DIFFERENT THAN --
16:12:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, I THINK MAYBE THE CITY HAS A WINDOW
16:12:25 TO WHAT WE SAID, IF YOU ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE, YOU CAN BE
16:12:28 A PART OF THAT WINDOW, AND WE CAN SEPARATE THE TWO.
16:12:34 >>LUIS VIERA: FEASIBILITY.
16:12:38 >>CARL BRODY: WE CAN LOOK INTO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
16:12:41 AND COUNCILMAN VIERA, DO YOU HAVE ANY PREFERENCE AS TO DATE?
16:12:47 I KNOW YOU REFERENCED THE POINTS INITIALLY.
16:12:49 DO YOU WANT THE POINTS TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE
16:12:51 ORDINANCE?
16:12:52 >>LUIS VIERA: OH, YES, SIR.
16:12:53 THAT'S THE MAIN THING.
16:12:54 >>CARL BRODY: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
16:12:56 >>LUIS VIERA: WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT CONTRACTORS WHO BAN
16:12:58 THE BOX AND HIRE RETURNING CITIZENS, AT THE END ARE GIVEN
16:13:04 INCENTIVES AND ARE REWARDED.
16:13:06 THAT'S OUR STARTING BASIS.
16:13:08 I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
16:13:09 >>CARL BRODY: AND PART OF THE RFP PROCESS.
16:13:12 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
16:13:13 AND AGAIN, WITH THE FEASIBILITY THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES PUT IN
16:13:16 THERE INCORPORATES SO WE CAN INVESTIGATE THAT IN 60 DAYS.
16:13:20 AND THAT'S MY FIRST MOTION.
16:13:21 >>THE CLERK: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, DO YOU WANT
16:13:24 THIS ORDINANCE TO BE BROUGHT BACK OUT OF DRAFT UNDER STAFF
16:13:27 REPORTS?
16:13:29 OR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION?
16:13:31 OKAY.
16:13:31 SO YOU NEED TO PLACE IT ON THE FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
16:13:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST READING CONSIDERATION JULY
16:13:36 14th, REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
16:13:41 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
16:13:44 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
16:13:47 >>CARL BRODY: ONE OTHER QUESTION.
16:13:54 DO WE WANT TO HAVE A CERTAIN PRAISE THRESHOLD?
16:13:56 I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE CITIES HAS 100,000.
16:14:00 ONE HAS 200,000.
16:14:05 THE LOWEST IS 100,000?
16:14:07 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
16:14:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
16:14:12 JULY 14th FIRST READING.
16:14:14 >>LUIS VIERA: AND SECOND, WHICH I CAN COMBINE THESE ALL,
16:14:16 NUMBER ONE, MOTION TO HAVE ANNUAL REPORTING BY THE CITY, AND
16:14:20 WE CAN HAVE THAT TO COME UP --
16:14:24 >>> AUGUST 25th.
16:14:25 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THEN EVERY AUGUST THEREAFTER.
16:14:28 SO ON THE NUMBER OF RETURNING CITIZENS THAT THE CITY IS
16:14:31 HIRING, SO THAT'S MY SECOND MOTION.
16:14:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MEMBER VIERA,
16:14:36 SECOND BY CITRO.
16:14:38 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:14:39 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THEN THIRD WOULD BE TO REQUEST THAT THE
16:14:42 ADMINISTRATION APPROPRIATE UP TO $150 TO MATCH THE COUNTY'S
16:14:48 TEST PILOT INVESTMENT FOR APPRENTICESHIP AND/OR TRAINING
16:14:52 PROGRAM AND/OR GRANT FOR RETURNING CITIZENS.
16:14:56 THIS WOULD BE, I BELIEVE, A FIRST OF ITS KIND HERE IN THE
16:14:59 LOCAL AREA, THAT IS SPECIFICALLY GEARED TOWARDS THIS
16:15:01 POPULATION, TO EQUIP THEM WITH THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO HELP
16:15:06 THEM PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
16:15:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
16:15:10 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:15:11 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, MAY I HAVE THAT COME BACK TO US
16:15:15 IN AUGUST.
16:15:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AUGUST 25th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
16:15:19 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, YES, YES.
16:15:20 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF YOU WILL PARDON ME, I HAVE TO EXCUSE
16:15:26 ME.
16:15:26 PLEASE EXCUSE ME.
16:15:27 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
16:15:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
16:15:31 TWO MORE ITEMS TO GO.
16:15:33 ITEM NUMBER 52.
16:15:34 ABBYE FEELEY.
16:15:36 >> I AM CONNECTING.
16:16:10 KAYON, HOUSING FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION.
16:16:14 JUST COMING BEFORE YOU TO TALK ABOUT LOCAL HOUSING
16:16:19 ASSISTANCE PLAN WITH OUR FUNDING UNDER ADMINISTRATION, HAVE
16:16:24 ALWAYS TRADE TO COME BEFORE YOU WITH SOME TRANSPARENCY.
16:16:27 I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PLAN THAT WE ARE GETTING READY TO
16:16:30 SUBMIT.
16:16:30 SO AS WE GO TO THE NEXT, TO THE SECOND SLIDE, JUST A LITTLE
16:16:34 BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'LL DISCUSS TODAY IS JUST FOR BACKGROUND,
16:16:38 WHAT ELHAP IS, JUST WHAT THOSE STRATEGIES LOOK LIKE AND TALK
16:16:45 A LITTLE ABOUT THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
16:16:47 GET.
16:16:48 SO OUR ELHAP VERY SIMILAR TO HOW WE HAVE OUR ACTION PLAN FOR
16:16:52 OUR FEDERAL DOLLARS, OUR LHAP, STATE INITIATIVE PARTNERSHIP
16:16:59 PROGRAM, EACH MUNICIPALITY HAS TO SUBMIT THAT LHAP IS THREE
16:17:04 YEARS.
16:17:05 OUR FISCAL YEAR FOR THE SHIP FUNDING IS FROM JULY 1st TO
16:17:09 JUNE 30th.
16:17:10 SO THE LHAP MAY 2nd OF THIS YEAR IS GOING TO GOVERN FY
16:17:16 23 TO FY 25.
16:17:18 AND THE LHAP IS GOING TO DETAIL REALLY HOW WE PLAN TO THEN
16:17:23 SPEAKS FUND THE NEXT THREE FISCAL YEARS.
16:17:27 THIS IS THE CREATION OF THE LHAP REALLY IS THE PURPOSE TO
16:17:31 MEET THE HOUSING NEED FOR THOSE WHO ARE VERY LOW, LOW AND
16:17:35 MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLD TO EXPAND THE PRODUCTION OF
16:17:37 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
16:17:38 THE STATE FUNDS ARE THE ONLY FUNDS THAT WE REALLY HAVE THAT
16:17:40 ALLOWS US TO GO UP TO THE 140% AREA INCOME ASSOCIATION AS WE
16:17:45 PRESENT OUR LHAP IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE SPECIFIC
16:17:48 ON THE PROGRAMS AND THE STRATEGIES THAT WE CREATE SO THAT WE
16:17:51 CAN REALLY ADDRESS ALL THOSE FROM VERY LOW ALL THE WAY TO
16:17:55 MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLD.
16:17:57 IT DOES INCREASE THE AVAILABILITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
16:18:01 RENTAL UNITS AS WELL AS LOOKING AT PRESERVING UNITS, SO THIS
16:18:04 IS WHAT WE WHY WOULD USE SOMETIMES FOR OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB
16:18:08 TO PRESERVE THOSE UNITS.
16:18:09 WE LOOK TO DO PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP ALSO WITH OUR SHIP
16:18:12 FUNDING BECAUSE IT HAS A LITTLE BIT LESS RESTRICTIONS ON OUR
16:18:16 FEDERAL DOLLARS, SO BOTH OF OUR IN-FILL PROGRAMS, INFILL
16:18:19 PHASE 1 AND 2 WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE SHIP FUND TO UTILIZE
16:18:26 THOSE DOLLARS.
16:18:31 FLORIDA HOUSING COALITION, THAT'S THE AGENCY THAT PROGRAMS
16:18:34 THE SHIP DOLLARS, OUR STATE FUND.
16:18:36 AND SO I HAVE JUST LIST ADD FEW ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY.
16:18:39 IT CAN BE HOME OWNERSHIP ACTIVITY, CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY, AS
16:18:42 WELL AS ADMIN, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALSO
16:18:48 PUTTING SOME ADMIN DOLLARS IN.
16:18:50 IT HAS OWNERSHIP ACTIVITY, SO TO BREAK THAT DOWN IN LHAP IT
16:18:55 CAN BE ANYTHING FROM FORECLOSURE PREVENTION, ALSO FIRST-TIME
16:18:58 HOME BUYER PROGRAMS.
16:19:00 SO IT JUST GIVES A VERY VAGUE OVERVIEW.
16:19:09 WHEN WE DEVELOP THE STRATEGIES WE TRY TO MAKE IT A
16:19:12 STRAIGHTFORWARD APPROACH, SOMETHING THAT'S EASY TO READ.
16:19:14 THE STRATEGIES ARE NOT LIKELY -- IF WE DON'T PUT THEM IN THE
16:19:19 LHAP WE ARE NOT LIKELY TO BE ABLE TO FUND THEM FOR THE
16:19:21 UPCOMING YEAR.
16:19:22 AS WE PUT THE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS OUT, AND EXPECT RECIPIENTS
16:19:27 TO RESPOND TO THOSE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN THE
16:19:30 LHAP REALLY SPELLED OUT, PUTS WHAT THE LOAN TERM IS, IF WE
16:19:34 ARE GOING TO PUT A LIEN ON THAT HOME, IF WE PUT ANY FUND,
16:19:37 ALSO VERY SPECIFIC WHAT THE TARGET AUDIENCE IS, WHAT WE PLAN
16:19:42 TO DO, WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF AWARD, AND AS WELL AS
16:19:45 THE LOAN TERMS FOR THAT.
16:19:52 THE NEXT SLIDE WILL SHOW REALLY WHAT WE STARTED TO DO, SO
16:19:55 THE DRAFT IT LHAP WE PRESENTED THAT TO OUR AFFORDABLE
16:19:59 HOUSING COUNCIL WHICH IS OUR AHAC COMMITTEE TO GET SOME
16:20:03 INPUT FROM THEM, ALSO LOOKING AT THAT DRAFT.
16:20:06 WE DID HAVE TWO PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS, IN PERSON MEETINGS.
16:20:09 WE DID ONE IN THE MORNING AND DID ONE IN THE AFTERNOON JUST
16:20:12 TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GAVE VARYING TIMES FOR PEOPLE TO
16:20:14 ATTEND.
16:20:20 THE 30-DAY PERIOD CLOSED APRIL 16th.
16:20:24 NOW WE ARE PRESENTING WHAT THE LHAP IS AND WE WILL SUBMIT
16:20:27 THAT FINAL LHAP TO FLORIDA HOUSING COALITION ON MAY 2nd.
16:20:34 THAT IS IT.
16:20:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
16:20:37 >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM CURIOUS IF THE HOME OWNERSHIP
16:20:40 ACTIVITIES FOR THIS CYCLE INCLUDE THE POSSIBILITY OF
16:20:46 ASSISTANCE WITH THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES AND THOSE
16:20:51 TYPES OF THINGS FOR LOW-INCOME HOMEOWNERS.
16:20:53 >> NO, NOT FOR PROPERTY TAXES, NO.
16:20:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
16:21:00 >> IT'S NOT A STRATEGY THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT.
16:21:04 >>LYNN HURTAK: IT JUST CAME UP RECENTLY AS SOMETHING THAT
16:21:10 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STRUGGLE WITH, BUT I KNOW THAT -- WELL,
16:21:13 I KNOW YOUR PLAN IS ALREADY PUT TOGETHER, BUT DEFINITELY FOR
16:21:17 FUTURE PLAN, I THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT
16:21:21 IT.
16:21:21 >> SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO WITH FLORIDA HOUSING
16:21:24 COALITION, ANY OTHER MUNICIPALS HAS DONE IT.
16:21:27 WEEK WE CAN CERTAINLY AMEND IT ONCE WE SUBMIT IT.
16:21:30 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE WHAT THE FEASIBILITY
16:21:33 IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I AM HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY.
16:21:35 THOSE ARE ON FIXED INCOMES, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY GOING TO
16:21:39 BE 3%, IT'S 3%.
16:21:42 IT'S THE HIGHEST THAT WE HAVE HAD IN RECENT MEMORY.
16:21:47 SO SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE JUST AREN'T SURE HOW WE ARE GOING TO
16:21:50 PAY FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE LIVING ON THEIR SOCIAL
16:21:52 SECURITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
16:21:55 THANKS.
16:21:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
16:21:58 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
16:22:00 LAST ITEM OF THE DAY, 53.
16:22:02 >> I BRING TODAY OUR REPORTS ON THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE
16:22:10 PROSPECTUS AND MARKET PLAN, AND THIS PORTION OF IT IS THE
16:22:15 COMPLETED, THE MARKET REPORT WHICH IS RIGHT BEFORE
16:22:19 CHRISTMAS.
16:22:20 WE COMPLETED THE PRO PECK SUCCESS AND BUILDING THE WEBSITE
16:22:23 TO BE A RESOURCE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO INVEST IN
16:22:26 OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
16:22:27 I HAVE GAI CONSULTANTS ONLINE AND THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU
16:22:31 A BRIEF REPORT ON THAT AND THEN ASK FOR SOME INPUT ABOUT HOW
16:22:34 YOU FEEL ABOUT SOME OF THE IDEAS ABOUT USING THIS TOOL AND
16:22:38 HOW WE PROMOTE THIS TOOL, BECAUSE THAT'S THE THIRD COMPONENT
16:22:41 OF OUR CONTRACT, AND THIS IS THE VERY LAST PIECE.
16:22:44 SO LOVE TO HEAR YOUR INPUT.
16:22:46 AND CAN WE GET LAURA SMITH ON LINE, PLEASE?
16:22:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE'S ON.
16:22:51 >> LAURA SMITH: THANK YOU ALL FOR HANGING ON AND LETTING US
16:23:00 TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON.
16:23:02 I KNOW YOU HAVE HAD A BIT OF A DAY, SO WE ARE GOING TO TRY
16:23:04 TO GO THROUGH THIS IN A PRETTY QUICK FASHION SO WE CAN GET
16:23:07 THROUGH EVERYTHING.
16:23:08 DO I NEED TO SHARE THE PRESENTATION FROM MY SCREEN?
16:23:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, YES.
16:23:12 >> OKAY.
16:23:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL MAKE IT BIGGER THERE AND WE CAN
16:23:32 SEE IT.
16:23:33 >> I AM GOING TO SWITCH THE SCREEN BECAUSE IT'S SHOWING ME
16:23:35 THE WRONG SCREEN.
16:23:40 THAT'S THE ONE I WANT.
16:23:43 SO I AM ASSUMING YOU ALL CAN SEE THIS, THE SCREEN THAT
16:23:46 SHOWS --
16:23:49 >>> YES.
16:23:50 >> MY NAME IS LAURA SMITH, WITH GAI COMMUNITIES SOLUTIONS
16:23:54 GROUP AND I HAVE BEEN LEADING YOUR MARKET REPORT AND
16:23:56 OPPORTUNITY ZONE PROSPECTUS EFFORT ALONG WITH BO KEMP, AND
16:24:01 HE WAS ON OUR TEAM.
16:24:02 WE WERE SELECTED IN THE RFP PROCESS TO DO THIS WORK FOR YOU
16:24:05 ALL, AND WE ARE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO THE END.
16:24:08 SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO QUICKLY IS WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE
16:24:11 HAVE DONE THUS FAR AND WHERE WE STAND NOW AND WHAT OUR NEXT
16:24:14 STEPS ARE.
16:24:16 SO FIRST OF ALL, THIS PROJECT INVOLVES ESSENTIALLY THREE
16:24:20 COMPONENTS, THAT ALL HAPPEN IN THIS FIRST STAGE, WHICH ARE
16:24:23 THE MARKET REPORT, THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE PROSPECTUS, AND THE
16:24:28 MARKETING PLAN.
16:24:30 SO THE MARKET REPORT WE FINISHED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, THAT
16:24:34 WAS COMPLETED ABOUT NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.
16:24:39 WE ARE WRAPPING OUT THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE PROSPECTUS NOW TO
16:24:43 GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL ON HOW THAT'S COME TOGETHER.
16:24:47 THEN THE MARKETING PLAN WILL BE PROVIDED TO STAFF TO BE USED
16:24:50 AS AN ONGOING TOOL FOR IMPLEMENTATION AND NEXT STEPS.
16:25:01 SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AREAS THAT YOU HAVE GOT, WE HAVE
16:25:05 BASICALLY 22 OPPORTUNITY ZONES THAT ARE IN TAMPA, BUT EIGHT
16:25:08 OF THOSE FALL INTO THE FIVE DISTINCT AREAS.
16:25:11 WE LOOKED AT THOSE FIVE DISTINCT AREAS, AND SORT OF CREATED
16:25:14 A BRANDING FOR EACH OF THEM, SO YOU HAVE THE URBAN CORE,
16:25:18 EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, DREW PARK/AIRPORT, AND THEN ALSO THE
16:25:23 UNIVERSITY AREA.
16:25:24 AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THOSE LAY OUT ON THE MAPS HERE.
16:25:28 THESE ARE THE TOTAL OF ALL THE ZONES THAT FALL INTO THOSE
16:25:32 AREAS.
16:25:32 SO THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT FALL INTO THE TAMPA AREA, YOU HAVE
16:25:37 GOT THREE THAT FALL INTO THE URBAN CORE AREA, AND FIVE UP
16:25:42 HERE IN THE UNIVERSITY AREA AS WELL AS A COUPLE IN WEST
16:25:45 TAMPA AND A COUPLE IN DREW PARK.
16:25:48 SO WE DID A SERIES OF STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENTS WHICH WE HAVE
16:25:51 BEEN DOING SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS AND YOU CAN
16:25:53 SEE HERE WE WORKED WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS, WE ALSO LOOKED
16:25:58 TO FIND INVESTORS AND DEVELOPMENT FACILITATORS, AND SPOKE
16:26:02 WITH EACH OF YOUR -- ADVISORY COMMITTEES. THERE WERE SOME
16:26:06 THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DIRECTLY PRESENT TO DURING OUR
16:26:09 REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETINGS, BUT IN THOSE SETTINGS WE DID
16:26:12 STILL PROVIDE THEM SAMPLES OR RECORDINGS OF THE OTHER
16:26:15 PRESENTATIONS WE DID FOR THE OTHER DISTRICTS.
16:26:19 SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY PART OF WHAT YOUR MARKET REPORT LOOKS
16:26:22 LIKE.
16:26:23 WE LOOKED AT RESIDENTIAL, OFFICE, RETAIL, AND INDUSTRIAL
16:26:26 USES.
16:26:28 AND WE SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON EACH OF THOSE AREAS.
16:26:32 SO THIS MARKET REPORT WILL BE UPDATED AS PART OF OUR
16:26:35 ORIGINAL RESPONSE TO YOUR RFP, WE DID A MARKET REPORT, AND
16:26:39 WE WILL BE UPDATING IT ONE YEAR AFTER.
16:26:41 SO THE UPDATE TO THIS WILL COME IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
16:26:45 AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE A NEW SET OF DATA TO GO ALONG WITH
16:26:48 THAT.
16:26:48 SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TOOLS THAT YOU NOW HAVE THAT REALLY
16:26:51 HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THESE DIFFERENT MARKETS ARE
16:26:55 PERFORMING IN TAMPA, SPECIFICALLY IN THE DISCREET AREAS, THE
16:27:00 FIVE SPECIFIC AREAS AS WELL AS COMPARING TO THE CITY AS A
16:27:03 WHOLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY PERFORM IN RELATION TO THE CITY
16:27:05 AS A WHOLE.
16:27:09 SO WHEN WE GET INTO THE PROSPECTUS, SORT OF THE INTRO TO
16:27:14 THAT SECTION OF THE PRODUCT IS GOING TO BE SORT OF AN
16:27:17 OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE PROGRAM IS SO THAT
16:27:20 PEOPLE CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT WORKS,
16:27:23 ESPECIALLY FOLKS THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN EXPOSED TO IT BEFORE.
16:27:26 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD A LOT FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS
16:27:29 WITH THE CAC BOARD MEMBERS AND ALSO SOME OF THE FOLKS FROM
16:27:33 THE PUBLIC WAS THAT THEY ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR HOW TO GET
16:27:36 THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE PROGRAM CONNECTED TO THE INDIVIDUAL
16:27:39 BUSINESSES.
16:27:41 SO NOT JUST FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF BUILDING OR DEVELOPMENT
16:27:45 OR ANY TYPE OF VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, BUT ALSO YOU CAN
16:27:49 CONNECT PEOPLE THAT ALREADY OWN BUSINESSES IN THE CITY AND
16:27:52 ARE EITHER LOOKING TO EXPAND THEM, OR MAYBE LOOKING TO
16:27:56 RELOCATE TO A DIFFERENT AREA.
16:27:59 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE MAKING THAT CONNECTION FOR
16:28:01 FOLKS, THAT IT WAS A TOPIC THAT CAME UP IN A LOT OF OUR
16:28:04 CONVERSATIONS, AND WE STILL ARE PAINTING THAT PICTURE WITHIN
16:28:08 THE PROSPECTUS.
16:28:09 WE CAN HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THEM
16:28:11 ESPECIALLY AS BUSINESS OWNERS, IF THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN
16:28:14 VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION.
16:28:17 SO ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT IS BY PUTTING A
16:28:20 SORT OF MATRIX, WHERE WE LOOK AT THE QUALIFIED OPPORTUNITY
16:28:25 FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, THAT HAVE THE FUND THAT YOU ARE
16:28:28 LOOKING FOR TO INVEST IN OPPORTUNITY ZONES, IS TO LOOK AT
16:28:31 THOSE AND UNDERSTAND HOW THEY MAY ALIGN, WHETHER THEY ARE A
16:28:36 REAL ESTATE FOCUS, A BUSINESS INVESTMENT FOCUS, AND WHICH
16:28:40 SUBDISTRICTS OF THOSE FIVE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT MOST
16:28:44 ALIGN WITH THE SPECIFIC NEEDS OF THOSE SPECIFIC FIVE.
16:28:48 SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
16:28:51 THIS IS INCLUDED IN THE PROSPECTUS AND HOPEFULLY YOU KNOW IF
16:28:54 YOU ARE IN ONE OF THESE FIVE DISTRICTS, YOU CAN COME TO THIS
16:28:57 AND LOOK AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THAT FUND IS INTERESTING
16:29:01 AND EXACTLY WHAT I AM LOOKING TO ATTRACT AN INVESTOR TO, SO
16:29:06 THE AREA THAT I AM IN IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY ARE
16:29:09 INTERESTED IN INVESTING IN, SO AT LEAST IT GETS THEM A FIRST
16:29:12 POINT TO REACH OUT TO, TO START THAT PROCESS OF SEEKING
16:29:15 FUNDING INVESTMENT.
16:29:18 SORRY.
16:29:19 SO WE THEN INTRODUCE EACH OF THE SUBDISTRICTS.
16:29:22 SO I HAVE GIVEN YOU AN EXAMPLE HERE OF THE EAST TAMPA
16:29:26 SUBDISTRICT, BUT THERE IS A SIMILAR STRIKE TO EACH OF THOSE
16:29:32 FIVE DISTRICTS THAT GIVES YOU THE OVERVIEW ABOUT THAT
16:29:34 INDIVIDUAL AREA, COMMUNITY INVESTMENT THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING
16:29:37 IN THAT COMMUNITY, AND THEN ALSO THE MAJOR ANCHOR
16:29:41 DEVELOPMENT THAT'S THERE.
16:29:42 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OPPORTUNITY FUNDS AND GENERAL
16:29:45 INVESTORS TEND TO LOOK AT IS, IS THERE ALREADY INVESTMENT
16:29:49 ACTIVITY HERE?
16:29:50 IS THE CITY ALREADY COMMITTED?
16:29:52 IS THERE A CRA THAT'S ALREADY COMMITTED IN MAKING
16:29:54 INVESTMENTS IN INTO THIS COMMUNITY?
16:29:56 BECAUSE MONEY SOMETIMES FOLLOWS MONEY.
16:29:58 AND THOSE INVESTMENTS MAKE THEM FEEL MORE CONFIDENT GOING
16:30:01 FORWARD.
16:30:01 SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING HERE, IS THERE'S
16:30:04 ALREADY A LOT OF INVESTMENT ACTIVITY HAPPENING WITHIN THESE
16:30:07 COMMUNITIES, ON THE PUBLIC SIDE, WHICH REALLY IS OPENING THE
16:30:10 DOOR TO THAT PRIVATE SECTOR INVESTMENT.
16:30:14 WE ALSO TALK ABOUT THE PRIORITIES PROJECTS THAT ARE LOCATED
16:30:18 IN EACH OF THESE FIVE DISTRICTS.
16:30:19 THESE WILL BE KIND OF THE GAME CHANGING PROJECTS, REALLY
16:30:22 CATALYTIC EFFORTS, THAT ARE HAPPENING WITHIN EACH OF THESE
16:30:25 FIVE DISTRICTS.
16:30:27 AND I AM SURE IN THE URBAN CORE SECTION HERE JUST AS AN
16:30:30 EXAMPLE, YOU CAN SEE HOW THINGS LIKE THAT, ENCORE TAMPA, AND
16:30:36 THE STREET CAR EXPANSION, AND MODERNIZATION ARE ALL SHOWN
16:30:40 HERE TO HIGHLIGHT THE KIND OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT
16:30:43 ARE REALLY GOING TO BE INFLUENTIAL TO THAT SPECIFIC
16:30:45 DISTRICT.
16:30:46 AND THERE'S A SIMILAR SORT OF LAYOUT OF PROJECTS FOR EACH OF
16:30:49 THOSE FIVE DISTRICTS HERE.
16:30:53 SO THIS IS WHAT THE INFORMATION THAT WE ARE INCLUDING FOR
16:30:57 EACH OF THE CENSUS TRACKS, SO AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE IS DEFINED
16:31:02 BY THE CENSUS TRACKS, AS SO FOR WEST TAMPA, YOU HAVE GOT TWO
16:31:07 CENSUS TRACKS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT AREA THAT ARE BOTH
16:31:10 OPPORTUNITY ZONES, SO WHAT YOU GET IS THIS SORT OF OVERVIEW
16:31:13 OF HERE IS EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN THIS SPECIFIC ZONE,
16:31:17 THIS SPECIFIC CENSUS TRACT.
16:31:19 YOU ALSO GET THE SOCIOECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC FACTS SO THAT
16:31:24 YOU CAN KIND OF START TO LOOK AT THIS FROM THE INVESTOR
16:31:28 PERSPECTIVE AND SAY THIS CENSUS TRACT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
16:31:32 THINGS THAT I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR AS AN INVESTOR, SO IT'S
16:31:34 THE INCOME LEVEL, THE EDUCATION ATTAINMENT, WHETHER IT'S
16:31:38 MORE RESIDENTIAL FOCUSED COMMUNITY OR MORE INDUSTRIAL OR
16:31:42 COMMERCIAL FOCUSED COMMUNITY OR AREA.
16:31:45 ALSO, THEY ARE GOING TO HELP MIRROR THOSE TRACKS TO HELP
16:31:49 IDENTIFY WHICH ONES THEY WANT TO BE ACTED IN -- ACTIVE IN.
16:31:53 FOR THAT, WE ALSO DO AN INVESTMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT
16:31:56 OPPORTUNITY INDEX MODEL.
16:31:58 THIS TAKES THE NUMBER OF FACTORS AND MODELS THOSE TO
16:32:02 IDENTIFIED AREAS, NOT REALLY AREAS, SPECIFIC PROPERTIES
16:32:06 REQUEST EACH OF THOSE SUBDISTRICT TO IDENTIFY WHICH ONES ARE
16:32:09 MOST RIPE FOR INVESTMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT.
16:32:13 SO WE LOOK AT BOTH ALREADY-BUILT PROPERTIES THAT ARE
16:32:17 UNDERUTILIZED OR MAYBE VACANT PROPERTIES THAT ARE
16:32:20 UNDERVALUED OR ALREADY COMING TO THE MARKET.
16:32:24 THOSE GET HIGHLIGHTED IN MAPS WHICH ARE BROKEN DOWN BY EACH
16:32:28 OF THOSE FIVE SUBDISTRICTS.
16:32:30 AS SORT OF A FIRST POINT FOR INVESTORS TO LOOK AT, IF THEY
16:32:34 ARE ALREADY INTERESTED IN A SPECIFIC SUBDISTRICT, FOR
16:32:36 EXAMPLE, IF THEY WERE ALREADY INTERESTED IN EAST TAMPA, THIS
16:32:39 KIND OF GETS THEM AN INTRODUCTION TO, HEY, HERE ARE SOME
16:32:42 PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY RIPE FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND
16:32:45 INVESTMENT, JUST AS SORT OF AN INTRO TO THE COMMUNITY FOR
16:32:49 THEM TO START THINKING ABOUT.
16:32:50 AND SO YOU SEE HERE WE HAVE GOT A SAMPLE OF DREW PARK.
16:32:55 SO THE NEXT STEP IS THE MARKETING PLAN.
16:32:57 THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ESSENTIALLY FINALIZING NOW.
16:32:59 SO THE MARKETING PLAN IS INTENDED TO BE ESSENTIALLY A ROAD
16:33:02 MAP FOR STAFF, SO THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT MARKETING PLAN
16:33:06 AND IT'S GOING TO HELP THEM MOVE THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE
16:33:08 PROGRAM FORWARD.
16:33:09 SO IT'S GOING TO BE WHAT ROB IS REFERRING TO WHENEVER HE'S
16:33:13 GOING FORWARD WITH THIS TO PROMOTE THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE
16:33:16 PROGRAM IN TAMPA, BUT THEN ALSO AS HE WORKS WITH THE MANY
16:33:20 COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO FURTHER THIS PROGRAM
16:33:23 FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.
16:33:26 SO THAT INCLUDES IMPLEMENTATION THAT'S TAILORED TOWARDS
16:33:29 HOUSING, COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL, INDUSTRIAL, AGRICULTURAL
16:33:33 USES AND OPERATING INVESTMENT.
16:33:35 SO THERE WILL ALSO BE SOMEWHAT OF AN INVESTOR PITCH
16:33:39 DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S TO
16:33:42 CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH, USING IT AS A ROAD MAP.
16:33:46 ANOTHER THING WE ASSISTED WITH WAS THE CREATION OF THE WEB
16:33:49 TREE AND WEB CONTENT SO THIS IS ALL STARTING TO HIT YOUR
16:33:53 WEBSITE NOW.
16:33:55 ROB AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN BUILDING THIS INTO YOUR EXISTING
16:33:58 WEB PLATFORM SO THAT IT CAN AT LEAST START TO SHARE THE
16:34:02 INFORMATION THERE TO GET THE WORD OUT AND START MESSAGING.
16:34:06 BUT ULTIMATELY WE ARE HOPING THAT THIS BECOMES A LITTLE BIT
16:34:09 MORE OF AN INTERACTIVE PLATFORM SO THAT PEOPLE CAN REALLY
16:34:13 NAVIGATE IT IN A WAY THAT IS VERY QUICK AND EASY FOR THEM TO
16:34:17 FIND.
16:34:17 RIGHT NOW IT'S REALLY COMING TOGETHER NICELY AND STARTING TO
16:34:21 TAKE SHAPE.
16:34:21 AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THAT CONTINUES TO PROGRESS
16:34:24 OVER THE COMING WEEKS.
16:34:27 SO THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE OTHER WEB CONTENT THAT WE HELPED
16:34:30 CREATE THAT'S NOW UP ON YOUR WEBSITE.
16:34:32 SOME PIECES OF IT ARE ALREADY THERE, FULLY FUNCTIONAL.
16:34:35 OTHERS ARE STILL BEING BULLET OUT.
16:34:38 SO OUR NEXT STEP IS TO FINALIZE THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE PRO
16:34:42 RESPECT DISCUSS.
16:34:43 WE ARE VERY CLOSE ON THAT.
16:34:44 AND THEN ALSO FORMALIZE THE MARKETING PLAN, WHICH WE ARE
16:34:47 ALSO VERY CLOSE TO THE COMPLETION OF THAT.
16:34:51 SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE MUCH OF YOU ALL'S TIME.
16:34:54 I KNOW YOU PROBABLY ALL HAVE A VERY LONG DAY BECAUSE YOU ALL
16:34:58 HAVE BEEN UP THERE SINCE NINE.
16:35:00 SO I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE OR
16:35:02 REVIEWING THINGS.
16:35:04 BUT WE REALLY WANT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE
16:35:07 WE ARE, THAT WE ARE GETTING REALLY CLOSE TO FINISHING AND
16:35:10 TAKE ANY FEEDBACK OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT
16:35:13 HAVE.
16:35:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.
16:35:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD FRIEND OF MINE SAT ON THE CREATION OF
16:35:24 THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE WITH SENATOR SCOTT.
16:35:27 OPPORTUNITY ZONES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE UTILIZED FOR
16:35:29 UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES, DEVELOPED COMMUNITIES.
16:35:32 I LOOK AT THIS MAP, I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE
16:35:37 ARE GOING TO MOVE EAST TAMPA, MORE OR LESS COMMUNITIES IN
16:35:47 THESE OPPORTUNITY ZONES, HOW ARE WE GOING TO USE OPPORTUNITY
16:35:50 ZONES FOR BLACK BUSINESSES, TO PROMOTE THEM?
16:35:53 I SEE A SCHEMATIC BUT IT AIN'T TELLING ME HOW WE ARE GOING
16:35:56 TO GET THE MEAT AND POTATOES TO GET IT DONE.
16:35:59 AND MY THING IS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MARKET TO THE PEOPLE IN
16:36:04 THIS THESE COMMUNITIES TO KNOW, OR WHERE TO GO?
16:36:08 SEE, I CAN PUT THIS ON THE WEBSITE BUT AIN'T NOBODY GOING TO
16:36:12 THE CITY OF TAMPA WEBSITE OR EVEN KNOW WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY
16:36:15 ZONE IS. I HAVE TO BE A REALISTIC PERSON ON THAT.
16:36:18 ARE WE LOOKING AT BOOTS ON THE GROUND TO BE LOOK AT SOME OF
16:36:20 THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE, KNOCKING ON DOORS, SO THEY
16:36:24 CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE IS, WHAT CAN BE
16:36:27 OFFERED, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PROMOTE BUSINESSES TO COME HERE
16:36:30 TO LOOK AT THOSE AREAS FOR GROWTH?
16:36:35 NOW YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE, IN THE CENTRAL PART.
16:36:38 WE KNOW WE HAVE DEVELOPERS THERE WHO ARE GOING TO TAKE
16:36:41 ADVANTAGE OF THAT, GASWORX AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
16:36:43 SO THAT'S FINE FOR THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MONEY PEOPLE.
16:36:47 BUT I LOOK AT THE MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES, HOW ARE WE GOING
16:36:50 TO HELP THEM TO HELP THEIR COMMUNITY STRAFE?
16:36:54 THAT'S WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR.
16:36:55 >> THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS AND THE EXACT KIND OF QUESTIONS
16:36:58 WE GET ON A REGULAR BASIS. I GET CALLS 3 OR 4 TIMES A WEEK
16:37:02 ANSWERING THAT EXACT SAME QUESTION.
16:37:04 SO THE IDEA IS THAT WE ARE NOT HANDING OUT MONEY.
16:37:10 WE ARE NOT DOING THAT KIND OF WORK.
16:37:12 THIS IS A BIG EDUCATION AND AWARENESS.
16:37:15 WE HAVE BUSINESSES THAT COME AND SAY, WELL, OKAY, I AM NOT
16:37:17 BUYING REAL ESTATE, BUT CAN I STILL USE THIS PROGRAM FOR
16:37:20 OTHER THINGS?
16:37:22 BE FOR EXAMPLE, IF A COMPANY SAYS, HEY, I WOULD LIKE TO RENT
16:37:25 THE PLACE NEXT DOOR AND EXPAND MY BUSINESS, TO SAY THAT
16:37:27 PIZZA COMPANY, AND THEY SAID, I NEED TO BUY A NEW OVEN, I
16:37:31 NEED TO EXPAND MY BUSINESS, GET MORE TABLES, HIRE TWO MORE
16:37:35 EMPLOYEES, AND I CAN EXPAND MY BUSINESS.
16:37:37 IF I GO TO MY TRADITIONAL LOAN PLACE, THEY REQUIRE MORE
16:37:41 EQUITY.
16:37:41 YOU CAN GO TO OPPORTUNITY ZONE FUND AND SAY, HEY, I WOULD
16:37:48 LIKE TO BORROW MONEY AND HAVE YOU INVEST IN THIS BUSINESS, I
16:37:51 NEED OVENS AND THESE OTHER THINGS, COUNTS FOR RENTS, COUNTS
16:37:56 FOR THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO PUT INTO THAT
16:37:58 BUILDING, YOU CAN USE IT FOR OPERATIONAL.
16:38:00 IT'S NOT JUST FOR REAL ESTATE.
16:38:01 AND THE EARLY TAKERS DID A LOT OF REAL ESTATE.
16:38:05 THEY STARTED LOOKING INTO PERFORMANCE AND SAID, OKAY, I CAN
16:38:08 REPLACE SOME OF MY INVESTMENTS WITH OPPORTUNITY ZONE
16:38:12 INVESTMENTS.
16:38:13 THOSE WERE THE EARLY TAKERS.
16:38:14 AND THAT'S WHEN THE RULES WERE FIRST WRITTEN, WAS FIRST IN
16:38:18 LINE.
16:38:18 BUT WAS THE RULES GOT WRITTEN IN 2019, THOSE OTHER OPTIONS
16:38:23 BECAME MORE SMALL BUSINESS FOCUSED.
16:38:26 AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS TO GET
16:38:28 PARTNERS TO GET OUT THERE AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION LIKE
16:38:31 THE CDCs AND THE CHAMBERS AND GO, THESE ARE GREAT TOOLS,
16:38:37 THIS IS AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE, THIS PRINTED DOCUMENT IS
16:38:40 OBVIOUSLY GOING TO OUTDATE BECAUSE IT'S PRINTED BUT THE
16:38:43 WEBSITE WAS INTENDED TO BE THAT DYNAMIC CONTINUE TO GO ON
16:38:47 AND ANY CHANGES TO THE RULES, THE IDEAS THAT THE PROPERTIES
16:38:51 AT THE CRAs BOUGHT, THAT WE NEED TO ADVERTISE AND SHOW,
16:38:54 THIS IS AVAILABLE FOR REDEVELOPMENT, THIS IS A HIGHLIGHT
16:38:58 DOCUMENT, THIS IS ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE, OH,
16:39:01 BY THE WAY, DID YOU KNOW WE HAVE THESE OPPORTUNITY ZONES,
16:39:03 THIS IS A POSSIBILITY?
16:39:05 WE ARE SEEING PEOPLE THAT ARE STARTING TO USE THOSE FUND TO
16:39:07 BUY PROPERTIES IN DOWNTOWN AND BUY PROPERTIES IN OTHER
16:39:10 AREAS.
16:39:11 THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HIT THE NEWSPAPER ALL THE TIME.
16:39:14 THE ONES THAT YOU DON'T SEE ARE THE PEOPLE LIKE WHAT WE HAVE
16:39:16 HERE, THREE OF THEM, AND HE'S INVESTING IN SOME AFFORDABLE
16:39:24 HOUSING.
16:39:25 HE'S LOOKING FOR SMALLER LOTS AND TRYING TO DO FOUR AND TEN
16:39:28 LOTS AT A TIME AND DO THOSE KIND OF INVESTMENTS.
16:39:30 HE'S NOT NECESSARILY DOING THE, HEY, I NEED TO BUY A CITY
16:39:34 BLOCK AND PUT A $100 MILLION.
16:39:37 NOT LOOKING FOR A BIG CASH DONOR OR CASH INVESTOR INTO THESE
16:39:42 ZONES.
16:39:42 SO THEY ARE LOOKING FOR ALL LEVELS.
16:39:44 AND THE IDEA IS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION
16:39:46 AND BECOME THAT TOOL.
16:39:48 AND SO THAT'S HOW WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE BOOTS ON THE
16:39:51 GROUND AND GET OUR PARTNERS TO BE WORKING WITH US TO GET
16:39:56 THAT.
16:39:58 WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER THAT?
16:40:02 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND DOMESTIC
16:40:07 OPPORTUNITY AND CRA DIRECTOR INTERIM.
16:40:10 ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS I THINK IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US
16:40:13 TO DO WITH THIS PROSPECTUS IS EDUCATE OUR CRA STAFF AS WELL.
16:40:17 OUR STAFF CRA STAFF IS IN THE COMMUNITY MEETING WITH PEOPLE,
16:40:20 HEARING FROM BUSINESSES, HEARING FROM A LOT OF THESE SMALLER
16:40:23 BUSINESSES WITH A FACADE GRANTS, AND I THINK EDUCATING THEM
16:40:27 ABOUT THE PROSPECTUS AND WHO TO BE THE CONTACT AND BE THAT
16:40:30 CONDUIT I THINK IT'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE THOSE
16:40:34 BOOTS ON THE GROUND, AND BE THAT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE
16:40:39 BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT MAY WANT TO EXPAND OR NEW BUSINESSES
16:40:42 THAT MAY WANT TO COME IN.
16:40:44 SO I PLAN TO USE THIS AS WELL TO EDUCATE THE CRA STAFF AND
16:40:48 TO HAVE THEM OUT, BEING BOOTS ON THE GROUND AS WELL, FOR OUR
16:40:52 LOCAL BUSINESSES.
16:40:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. TRAVIS, HOW DIFFICULT IS THE FUNDING?
16:40:58 SOMETIMES YOU GO TO CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, CRITERIA HURT US AT
16:41:01 TIMES.
16:41:02 I THINK THAT'S A KEY FACTOR, I WANT TO ADDRESS TO SEE HOW WE
16:41:06 CAN HELP PEOPLE VERSUS HURT PEOPLE.
16:41:07 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO
16:41:12 MAYBE PARTNER WITH CONSULTANTS THAT MAY BE ABLE TO HELP WITH
16:41:16 THOSE QUESTIONS.
16:41:17 WE ARE NOT THE PROFESSIONALS THAT CAN HELP WITH YOUR TAX
16:41:21 STATEMENTS AND YOUR TAX LIABILITY, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN
16:41:24 PARTNER WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, THE CDC, THE SPDC, THAT
16:41:29 HAVE CONSULTANTS AND OTHER PRIVATE CONSULTANTS THAT MAY BE
16:41:32 ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, AND WALK OUR BUSINESS OWNERS
16:41:36 THROUGH THE STEPS, SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT
16:41:40 JUST AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT, AND CONNECT
16:41:42 THEM TO THE PEOPLE THAT CAN ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS AND HELP
16:41:45 THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS.
16:41:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.
16:41:48 THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT PERMITTING.
16:41:50 THEY DON'T KNOW TO GET IN FRONT OF US AND WHAT TO SAY OR NOT
16:41:53 TO SAY BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW TO KNOW AND THEY LOSE OUT.
16:41:55 THAT'S A BIG PART OF THIS PROCESS MAKING SURE THERE'S
16:41:58 SOMEPLACE THEY CAN GO TO TALK ABOUT THE FINANCIAL RECORD, TO
16:42:01 TALK ABOUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GO TO PERMITTING,
16:42:04 PLANNING, OR YOU MAY NEED TO GET A LAWYER WHO IS A LAND USE
16:42:08 PERSON.
16:42:08 THEY DON'T KNOW THOSE THINGS AND THEY GET SHUT OUT BECAUSE
16:42:10 OF THAT.
16:42:11 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IT IS MY INTENTION AS YOUR INTERIM CRA
16:42:13 DIRECTOR TO UTILIZE THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE NO PROJECT
16:42:17 MANAGEMENT ROLE, POSITION, SO THAT THEY CAN LEARN, BE THE
16:42:22 CONNECTING PARTY TO BUSINESS OWNERS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS, OR
16:42:27 RESIDENTS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS, AND CONNECTING THEM THROUGH
16:42:29 THE ENTIRE PROCESS, NOT JUST FROM CONCEPT BUT UNTIL THEY GET
16:42:32 A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY THROUGH ALL THE WAY.
16:42:35 SO THAT IS MY INTENTION.
16:42:38 AND WE'LL DO THAT, THE SAME IS TRUE WITH THE OPPORTUNITY
16:42:41 ZONE PROSPECTUS.
16:42:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE YOU HAVE MR. BROWN HERE.
16:42:46 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES.
16:42:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO I KNOW MR. BROWN HAS BEEN OUT LOOKING
16:42:50 IN EAST TAMPA, LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES IN AREAS ON COLUMBUS
16:42:53 AND OTHER AREAS.
16:42:54 SO I AM HOPING THAT HE WILL BE ABLE TO GET SOME PEOPLE HERE
16:42:59 INVESTING IN EAST TAMPA TO MAKE SURE WE CAN HAVE TO FOLKS
16:43:02 WHO ARE LIVING THERE, WORKING THERE AS WELL.
16:43:04 >> THEY HAVE BEEN PART OF THE PROCESS AND INCLUSIONARY AND
16:43:09 GIVEN GREAT FEEDBACK AND HELPING US FIND OTHER PARTNERS THAT
16:43:12 WEEP MIGHT NOT HAVE KNOWN RIGHT OFF.
16:43:14 AGAIN IT WAS ALWAYS THE INTENTION TO INCLUDE CITY STAFF AND
16:43:17 IN GENERAL, OBVIOUSLY, CRA STAFF AS PART OF THAT GROUP.
16:43:23 OUR INTENTION AT THE BEGINNING WAS TO GIVE THIS TOOL TO
16:43:26 EVERYBODY SO WE CAN GET THOSE INVESTMENTS.
16:43:27 WE ARE SEEING A LOT MORE.
16:43:28 I AM ACTUALLY SURPRISED EACH DAY WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS I HAVE
16:43:32 INVESTED IN THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SOMEBODY ELSE
16:43:34 WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS.
16:43:35 AND THEY ARE OFFERING LOTS OF INTERESTING INFORMATION.
16:43:38 SO THE LAREDO GROUP, THEY HAVE ALREADY OFFERED TWO FUND THAT
16:43:47 THEY ARE USE AS MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY.
16:43:50 WE HAVE THE OLD VERIZON BUILDING DOWNTOWN -- I'M SORRY,
16:43:54 FRONTIER BUILDING DOWNTOWN.
16:43:56 THAT BECAME AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE PURCHASE.
16:43:59 AND SOME OF THE WALKS AROUND THE STORE, CERTAINLY HEAR A LOT
16:44:02 OF PEOPLE STARTING TO INVEST AND IT'S AMAZING.
16:44:06 THESE ARE GREAT STORIES TO SHARE AND TO TRY TO GET OTHER
16:44:09 PEOPLE TO INVEST.
16:44:09 SO IT'S EXCITING.
16:44:10 AGAIN THOSE ARE THE EASY ONES TO POINT TO, TRYING TO GET
16:44:14 THOSE OUT TO ALL THE OTHER LEVELS.
16:44:15 SO I AGREE WITH WHAT NICOLE SAID.
16:44:17 EVERYBODY SINGING FROM THE SAME BOOK.
16:44:22 >>BILL CARLSON: THANKS EVERYBODY FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
16:44:24 I THINK ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE IS IMPORTANT.
16:44:28 THE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY -- I HAVE
16:44:31 ALREADY TALKED TO NICOLE ABOUT THIS -- THIS IS A TOOL AND IT
16:44:34 MAKES US EQUAL TO OTHER CITIES.
16:44:36 IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY DIFFERENTIATE US.
16:44:39 WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF GREAT THINGS THAT DIFFERENTIATE US
16:44:41 ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
16:44:42 BUT WITHOUT DOING ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, IT WILL PUT
16:44:47 US AT A DISADVANTAGE BY NOT BEING ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE ABOUT
16:44:50 IT.
16:44:51 THE THING I WOULD JUST CAUTION EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY IN THE
16:44:53 MARKETING OF THIS, LET'S NOT GET DISTRACTED BY THE TOOL AND
16:44:56 RUN AND CHASE THE TOOL.
16:44:58 LET'S FOCUS ON REAL PLANNING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
16:45:00 WE SHOULDN'T BE TRYING TO CHASE A BIG REAL ESTATE PROJECT
16:45:05 JUST BECAUSE WE CAN USE THIS, OR WHATEVER KIND OF PROJECT.
16:45:08 INSTEAD WE SHOULD LOOK AT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS, WHAT THE
16:45:11 NEIGHBORHOOD WANT, AND THEN GO BACKWARD AND LOOK AT ALL THE
16:45:14 TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO ACHIEVE WHAT THE COMMUNITY
16:45:16 WANTS.
16:45:16 AND THAT'S WRITTEN THINK THE CITY IN THE PAST HAS HAD A LOCK
16:45:20 OF PLANNING.
16:45:21 THE SECOND THING WE HAVE HAD A LACK OF IS REAL ECONOMIC
16:45:24 DEVELOPMENT.
16:45:24 WE CHASED REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT BUT NOT ECONOMIC
16:45:27 DEVELOPMENT.
16:45:27 AND I KNOW THE TWO GENTLEMEN IN THE AUDIENCE UNDERSTAND THAT
16:45:30 AND SO DOES NICOLE AND ROB.
16:45:32 AND I THINK I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT NICOLE IS GOING TO LEAD
16:45:35 US INTO AN ERA OF REAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
16:45:38 AND WE HAVE REALLY GOT TO LOOK AT CHANGING THE ECONOMIC
16:45:41 NUMBERS OF OUR CITY.
16:45:42 AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT JUST BY OFFERING INCENTIVES
16:45:45 AND USING TOOLS.
16:45:47 WE ARE GOING TO DO IT BY DOING THE RIGHT KIND OF PLANNING
16:45:49 WITH THE REAL NUMBERS IN OUR ECONOMY AND DO REAL ECONOMIC
16:45:53 PLANNING AND REAL ECONOMIC PLANNING.
16:45:55 THANK YOU.
16:45:57 >>ROB ROSNER: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, FEEDBACK?
16:45:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
16:46:02 WE HAVE COME TO THE END OF OUR AGENDA.
16:46:08 DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS, OR DID WE COVER IT ALL?
16:46:13 ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO GO THIS EARLY?
16:46:16 MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER GUDES, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MEMBER
16:46:19 CITRO.
16:46:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:46:21 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
16:46:24 [ MEETING ADJOURNED ]
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