TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 21, 2022
9:00 A.M.
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09:06:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THE BROADCAST STARTING?
[GAVEL SOUNDING]
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
AT THIS TIME, I DEFER TO COUNCILMEMBER ORLANDO GUDES.
09:06:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WITH HEAVY HEARTS, I LOST A FRIEND.
SOMEONE WHO CAME TO ME AT A TIME THAT I NEEDED
SOMEONE.
I DIDN'T ASK.
SHE CAME TO ME, AND SAID, I WILL BE YOUR NEXT AIDE.
I WILL MAKE YOU SMILE.
WE ARE GOING TO PRAY EVERY DAY, AND I WILL MAKE YOU
HAPPY.
I SAID, WELL, GO HOME AND ASK YOUR HUSBAND AND YOUR
FAMILY IF IT IS OKAY.
BECAUSE IT IS A BIG JOB TO UNDERTAKE IN DISTRICT 5.
SHE SAID, ALL RIGHT, SIR.
SHE CAME BACK THE NEXT DAY AND SAID MY HUSBAND SAID IT
IS OKAY, AND MY FAMILY SAID IT IS OKAY.
I SAID, WELL, OKAY.
WE WILL GET STARTED.
SHE SAID BEFORE WE GET STARTED, WE ARE GOING TO PRAY.
WE ARE GOING TO PRAY EVERY DAY IN THIS OFFICE.
AND WHEN I COME IN, SHE MAY HAVE ALREADY DONE A
BLESSING.
BUT WHEN I GET THERE, SHE DOES ANOTHER BLESSING.
BEFORE WE LEAVE, WE DO A BLESSING.
AND IN A TIME I NEEDED HER, THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS
SHE WAS THERE.
DON'T YOU WORRY ABOUT NOTHING.
GOD HAS US.
HE HAS YOUR PEOPLE.
THE PERSON WHO PRAY EVERY DAY.
SO I KNOW MISS DEBBY.
I KNOW WHEN SHE LEFT US ON MONDAY, THE GATES OF HEAVEN
WERE ALREADY OPEN FOR HER.
BECAUSE HER SPIRIT WAS TOUCHED AND BLESSED BY GOD SO
SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY OF THE GATES OPEN.
WALKED RIGHT IN AND SHE SMILED LIKE SHE ALWAYS DO,
GENTLEMAN.
SHE SMILED, LAUGHED, YOU KNOW.
CHRISTMASTIME, WE ARE GOING TO MISS HER.
WE ARE GOING TO MISS HER BECAUSE SHE LET EVERYBODY FEEL
HAPPY WITH JOY.
SHE COME IN WITH HER CHRISTMAS OUTFIT ON ALL WEEK LONG.
MAKES EVERYBODY HAPPY.
SHE MADE ME HAPPY.
SHE MADE ME -- IN MY DARKEST DAYS AND DARKEST MOMENTS
MONTHS AGO.
SHE CALLED ME.
SHE PRAYED.
SHE SAID YOU ARE GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT.
YOU ARE GOING TO GET THROUGH IT.
GOD KNOWS YOUR HEART.
I AM GOING TO MISS HER BECAUSE SHE DID -- HE SENT HER
TO ME AT A TIME I NEEDED SOMEBODY.
AND SHE WAS HERE.
AND I AM BLESSED TO HAVE KNOWN HER.
BLESSED TO HAVE -- JUST BE ABLE TO GET THAT OPPORTUNITY
BECAUSE SHE WAS HAPPY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
SHE WAS HAPPY.
SHE WANTED IT.
SHE WAS HAPPY.
WOULD DO ANYTHING.
MR. CHAIRMAN, HER SERVICES WILL BE THIS SATURDAY AT 3
P.M. AT THE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, 4011 EAST 21ST
STREET IN TAMPA.
THAT IS IN HARLAN PINES.
FAMILY WILL TAKE IN GUESTS AND FRIENDS.
ALL I WANT TO SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN MAKE A MOTION
FOR COMMENDATION FOR MISS DEBBY.
09:09:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND
SECONDED.
ALL IN FAVOR.
09:09:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT AND SHE WOULD
LOVE THAT AND HER FAMILY WOULD LOVE THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:09:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AN INDESCRIBABLE EMPTINESS IN CITY
HALL.
COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU SAID IT BEST.
DEBBIE WAS AN ANGEL HERE AND AN ANGEL ABOVE LOOKING DOWN
ON EACH OF US.
A WOMAN OF DEEP FAITH.
STRONG.
FEARED NOTHING NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT THE SITUATION
AND SHE PASSED AWAY MONDAY SUDDENLY.
AND TRULY IRREPLACEABLE INDIVIDUAL.
SO THANK YOU, SIR.
09:10:06 >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY.
09:10:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
09:10:11 >>LUIS VIERA:
I ECHO SENTIMENTS FOR DEBBIE, AND
COUNCILMAN GUDES, SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS AND THE LOSS FOR
DEBBIE'S FAMILY.
SHE WAS A VERY DECENT PERSON.
A GREAT COMPASSION.
I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, JUST MANY EXPERIENCES WITH HER
THAT WE HAD TALKING ON MANY ISSUES.
AND IT'S -- IT'S FUNNY -- THIS IS PERSONAL, BUT
WHATEVER.
MY SON AND I WE -- WE KID AND SOMETIMES FILM MOVIES.
IT IS FUN, AND I HAD STUFF THAT WE DO.
AND DEBBIE WAS IN ONE OF OUR MOVIES A YEAR AND A HALF
AGO, AND I SAW IT WITH MY SON.
AND SHE WAS JUST -- SHE WAS A NICE LADY.
SHE WAS A VERY GOOD LADY.
JUST A HARD-WORKING WOMAN.
AND SHE WON'T BE FORGOTTEN.
SO -- I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MAYBE IF -- MAYBE AN
ORGANIZATION, ATU OR SOMEONE LIKE THAT COULD START UP A
FUND, 501-C-3 SO MAYBE FROM OUR CITY COUNCIL OFFICES
GIVE TO IT FOR DEBBIE'S FAMILY.
JUST AN IDEA.
BUT THANK YOU, SIR.
AGAIN, JUST GOD BLESS HER.
09:11:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY ELSE?
09:11:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
DEBBIE WAS A KIND, SWEET PERSON BEFORE SHE WAS
COUNCILMAN GUDES' LEGISLATIVE AIDE.
SHE WAS OUR FRONT DESK PERSON.
THE PEOPLE THAT CAME TO SEE US, THAT WAS THE FIRST
POINT OF CONTACT.
NOT EVERYBODY COMES INTO CITY COUNCIL OFFICE WITH A
SMILING FACE.
BUT MISS MERCER MADE SURE THEY DID HAVE A SMILING FACE.
SHE IS GOING TO BE GREATLY MISSED.
AND HER VOICE WILL ECHO.
WE HAVE LOCKS ON OUR DOORS THAT WE HAVE TO PUNCH IN TO
PASS.
AND SHE WOULD ALWAYS ANTICIPATE WHEN ONE OF US WAS
COMING THROUGH THE DOOR AND YELL OUT, IT'S OPEN!
YOU I WILL MISS THAT.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:12:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR.
09:12:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
YOU KNOW OUR OFFICE IS RIGHT NEXT TO MR. GUDES' OFFICE
AND DEBBIE.
AND I WOULD SEE HER JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY I WAS IN THE
BUILDING, AND SHE WAS IN THE BUILDING ALL THE TIME.
AND THERE WASN'T A BETTER PERSON, A HUMAN BEING, THEN
DEBBIE MERCER.
SHE HAD ILLNESSES IN THE FAMILY AND WE SPOKE OF FAMILY
ILLNESSES AND HISTORY IN LIFE.
TO ME SHE WAS ONE OF THE MOST ROUNDED PERSONS I EVER
MET.
SHE HAS A SMILE ON HER FACE NO MATTER HOW CRITICAL IT
WAS.
NO MATTER HOW SERIOUS IT WAS WITH ILLNESS IN HER FAMILY
AND OTHER PEOPLE'S FAMILIES.
SHE DID IT WITH A SMILE.
SHE TOOK LIFE AS IT CAME AND MADE CHANGES TO HELP THE
PEOPLE AROUND HER.
SHE WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY HUMAN BEING.
WE WILL MISS HER GREATLY.
09:13:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
YES.
09:13:06 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I, OF COURSE, DID NOT KNOW HER AS LONG AS
OR AS WELL AS OTHERS, BUT SHE WAS TRULY THE VERY FIRST
PEOPLE TO WALK IN MY OFFICE AND SAY HELLO AND OFFER ME
ANY TYPE OF HELP SHE POSSIBLY COULD.
AND JUST TALKING.
WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID THE EXPERIENCE I HAD.
ALWAYS A SMILE.
ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP.
ALWAYS HAD A POSITIVE THOUGHT AND THAT WILL BE TRULY
MISSED.
AND SHE WILL BE TRULY MISSED.
09:13:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT.
IT'S MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO WELCOME COLONEL TIM
KEYPORTS WHO WILL GIVE THE INVOCATION, COMMUNITY
LEADER.
INVOLVED IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
DEEPLY WITH THE COMMUNITY GIVING HIS TIME AND SERVICE
TO US.
SO MANY INVOLVED AND SO MANY ASPECTS OF THE
NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVEN IN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
TIM KEYPORTS IS THERE.
IF WE CAN PLEASE STAND, AND COLONEL KEYPORTS WILL LEAD
US IN THE INVOCATION.
09:14:10 >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PASS A FEW WORDS BEFORE WE BOW
OUR HEADS.
I AM HONORED TO BE CALLED BY CITY COUNCIL AGAIN FOR THE
INVOCATION.
AS WE BEGIN ANOTHER WORKDAY, IMPORTANT TO TAKE A FEW
MINUTES TO REFLECT ON THIS PAST WEEK, ONE OF ITS MOST
IMPORTANT FOR CHRISTIANS.
WHILE ALSO RESPECTING ALL FAITHS AND ALL OTHER
INDIVIDUALS.
WE REFLECT WITH GREAT HUMILITY ON THURSDAY, GOOD FRIDAY
AND REJOICE THIS PAST EASTER SUNDAY.
ON SUNDAY, THE CHILDREN OF OUR CONGREGATION CAME TO THE
FRONT OF TO SING A SONG.
OUR PASTOR ASKED THEM OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF EASTER.
AND A BRAVE FOUR-YEAR-OLD LITTLE GIRL REPLIED QUITE
LOUDLY, IT'S JESUS'S BIRTHDAY.
TAKE A MINUTE.
OUR PASTOR USED THIS AFTER PRAISING HER FOR BEING BRAVE
TO SHARE THAT WE ARE, INDEED, IN CONFUSING TIMES.
THE PANDEMIC, THE WAR IN UKRAINE, AND EVEN OUR RECENT
LOSS OF DEBBIE MERCER, A WELL-LOVED CLEARLY AN LONG-TIME
PUBLIC SERVANT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
WE WILL HONOR YOUR NAME THROUGH OUR GOOD WORKS THIS
WEEK.
PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS.
IN ROMANS 13:1, SAID EVERY PERSON SHOULD BE IN
SUBJECTION TO THE GOVERNING AUTHORITIES.
FOR THERE IS NO AUTHORITY EXCEPT FROM GOD AND THOSE
WHICH EXIST ARE ESTABLISHED BY GOD.
PRAISE BE TO GOD.
LET THESE WORDS GUIDE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND
RESONATE IN YOUR HEARTS AS WE GO FORTH AND DO GOOD
WORKS TODAY, TOMORROW, AND AS WE PREPARE OURSELVES
AHEAD OF THIS COMING SUNDAY, THE TRUE START OF OUR
WEEK.
IN JESUS'S NAME WE PRAY.
EN.
09:15:56 >> AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:16:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:16:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.
09:16:16 >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
09:16:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.
09:16:19 >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
09:16:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
09:16:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
09:16:23 >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:16:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. SHELBY.
09:16:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC,
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
WE ARE HERE FOR TODAY'S REGULAR AGENDA ON APRIL 21,
2022.
THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH,
LISTEN AND VIEW THIS MEETING ON CABLE TV AT SPECTRUM
CHANNEL 640, FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 AND ON THE INTERNET AT
TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
NOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND HERE IN PERSON IN
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS OR VIRTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN THIS
MEETING BY WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS COMMUNICATION MEDIA
TECHNOLOGY.
TO SPEAK REMOTELY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THE USE
OF CMT, PREREGISTRATION IS REQUIRED JUST AS TO
PARTICIPATE REMOTELY IN PUBLIC HEARINGS DURING TODAY'S
MEETING USING CMT.
PREREGISTRATION IS ALSO REQUIRED.
AND THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THAT ARE AVAILABLE BOTH IN THE
NOTICE OF THE MEETING AND ON THE AGENDA AND ON CITY
COUNCIL'S WEB SITE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.
PLEASE NOTE IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN QUASI-JUDICIAL
MATTERS, CELL PHONES AND SMARTPHONES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE
BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO SHARE YOUR PHONE
WHEN CONNECTED.
THOSE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY AT QUASI
JUDICIAL HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO CMT WITH A CAMERA AND
MICROPHONE ABLE TO BE SEEN BY VIDEO AND HEARD BY AUDIO
BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND OTHER PARTICIPANTS.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE
COUNCIL TO ADOPT -- WAIVE THE RULES AND ADOPT THE CMT
TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS AND THE --
09:18:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION TO WAIVE.
09:18:16 >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.
09:18:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED?
09:18:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:18:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. SHELBY, APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM TO THE
AGENDA.
IF YOU SEE THE ADDENDUM, QUITE A FEW SUBSTITUTE
RESOLUTIONS.
WHEN WE GET TO THOSE ITEMS, I WILL BRING THEM UP.
WHAT ELSE?
ITEM NUMBER, COUNCILMAN VIERA IS TO BE REMOVED, RIGHT?
09:18:40 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, PLEASE.
09:18:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 3.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED.
ITEMS 20 AND 21 WILL BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION AND
PLACED UNDER STAFF REPORT.
ITEMS 20 AND 21.
IF PROPER STAFF IS AVAILABLE.
THIS IS REGARDING ROAM YARD AND THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
AND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.
WE WILL PUT THAT UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
YOU CAN STILL SPEAK ABOUT IT UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.
NO CHANGE THERE.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT?
09:19:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SO MOVED.
09:19:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
WE WON'T HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION UPDATE FROM CHIEF
BENNETT.
REGARDING STAFF REPORTS.
I WILL GO THROUGH THEM REAL QUICK.
THE AGENDA IS SHORT TODAY, BUT THERE ARE QUITE A FEW
LENGTHY ITEMS.
SO -- AND THIS WAS -- I WILL COME BACK TO THIS.
THIS IS COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
IF WE WOULD NEED ANYBODY FOR TAMPA UNION STATION.
WE WILL GET BACK TO THAT.
ITEM NUMBER 45, THERE IS A STAFF REPORT ALSO ABOUT
CARLSON.
46, MOTION BY MR. VIERA.
WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF HERE?
09:20:01 >>LUIS VIERA:
SURE.
WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE A LUNCH BREAK IN BETWEEN BUT YES.
09:20:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
47.
09:20:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
09:20:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FOR 46.
47, WE WILL COME BACK TO THAT.
MY MOTION.
THE EXISTING CHLORINE PLANT ITEM.
A REQUEST THAT IT BE CONTINUED TO JUNE 16 OR JUNE 23
WORKSHOP.
09:20:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO MOVED.
09:20:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.
09:20:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES TO
CONTINUE ITEM 48 TO JUNE 16, 2022.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN VIERA, ITEM 49?
09:20:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PLEASE.
09:20:46 >>LUIS VIERA:
I THINK WE WILL NEED IT.
09:20:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
KEEP STAFF FOR 49.
ITEM NUMBER 50.
09:20:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
09:20:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
09:20:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
KEEP STAFF HERE FOR THAT.
ITEM 51.
THIS IS COUNCILMAN CARLSON, REGARDING A DRAFT
RESOLUTION FOR HEALTHY BONES TAMPA BAY COALITION.
YOU WANT STAFF HERE?
09:21:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN -- I AM GLAD COUNCILMAN
CARLSON IS HERE.
THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION WITH REGARD TO THAT
-- THAT RESOLUTION.
ACTUALLY IN TALKING WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND HIS
LEGISLATIVE AIDE, THE MOTION REALLY SHOULD BE FOR THE
OSTEOPOROSIS AWARENESS MONTH IN THE MONTH OF MAY.
AND I COMPARED THAT CONSISTENTLY SO I CAN DISTRIBUTE
THAT TO COUNCIL.
09:21:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AFTER LUNCH TODAY.
WE WILL LEAVE 51.
MR. CARLSON.
09:21:34 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
WE DON'T NEED STAFF.
09:21:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM 52 AND 53 ARE MY MOTIONS.
ONE IS A 15-MINUTE PRESENTATION.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ITEM 54, THE UNION STATION COFFEE
SHOP AND INCUBATOR.
WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF THERE.
09:21:57 >>BILL CARLSON:
IF NICOLE IS AVAILABLE.
AFTER TUESDAY NIGHT, SHE AND I SPOKE AND HAVE IDEAS TO
MOVE FORWARD.
09:22:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM 45.
09:22:05 >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU SAME THING.
09:22:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
STAFF ON BOTH OF THEN.
09:22:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
STAFF FOR 44 AND 45.
ITEM 47 REGARDING THE VETERAN MEMORIAL AT TAMPA UNION
STATION.
WOULD YOU LIKE SOMEBODY THERE?
09:22:17 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
09:22:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT CONCLUDES STAFF REPORTS.
09:22:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, 52 AND 53, YOU
BOTH WISH TO HAVE STAFF PRESENT.
09:22:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, DO HAVE STAFF.
15-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THE 53.
A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADEN DUMB.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND BY -- COUNCILMEMBERS
-- YES, SIR.
09:22:41 >>BILL CARLSON:
SORRY.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING ABOUT DEBBY REAL FAST.
I AM SORRY I MISSED THAT.
DEBBY IS -- WAS -- HARD TO SAY PAST TENSE.
SHE IS, WAS ONE OF THE BEST PEOPLE I EVER MET.
ONE OF THE KINDEST PEOPLE.
EVEN BEFORE I STARTED ON CITY COUNCIL, YOLY TOLD ME TO
GET TO KNOW HER.
AND I THINK OTHERS MENTIONED THIS, SHE WAS SO
WELCOMING.
WALKED THROUGH EVERYTHING.
SHE HAD GREAT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE ON EVERYTHING.
AND CITY COUNCIL WERE TO GET BUSINESS CARDS.
WHERE MONEY WAS IN YOUR ACCOUNT, EVERYTHING AS
COUNCILMAN CITRO MENTIONED.
SHE WOULD ANTICIPATE WHEN YOU WERE COMING THROUGH THE
DOOR.
BUT SHE WAS ONE OF THE KINDEST, HAPPIEST PEOPLE I EVER
MET.
DURING THE WORSE TIMES SHE WOULD FACE PERSONALLY, SHE
WOULD SMILE.
AND ON COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED THIS, NO MATTER HOW BAD
HER PERSONAL SITUATION WAS, SHE WOULD UPLIFT EVERYBODY
ELSE.
AND SHERIFFS JUST ONE OF THOSE INSPIRING LIGHTS THAT
YOU -- THAT YOU NEED MORE OF IN THE WORLD AND NOT LESS.
AND I HONE THAT WE ALL TRY TO LIVE TO HER EXPECTATIONS
OF US TO BE POSITIVE, HAPPY AND GIVING.
THANK YOU.
09:23:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAVE THE FIRST ITEM.
09:24:00 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
WE HAVE HERE THE USF STUDENT GOVERNMENT FOLKS WHO ARE
HERE.
IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP.
MR. CHAIR, WOULD IT BE OKAY FOR EACH PERSON TO BRIEFLY
INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND THEIR MAJOR.
09:24:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
09:24:20 >>LUIS VIERA:
GO AHEAD, SIR.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
09:24:22 >> GOOD MORNING.
I AM ANDRE MONTERO, THE DIRECTOR OF STUDENT GOVERNMENT
AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY.
WE WILL BE SPENDING A FEW HOURS OF OUR DAY HERE IN YOUR
OFFICES FOR SEVERAL REASONS, BUT I WILL LET SOME OF MY
PEERS INTRODUCE THEMSELVES BEFORE I CONTINUE.
09:24:44 >> MONICA SMITH, FEDERAL CHIEF OF STAFF.
DOUBLE MAJORING IN POLITICAL SCIENCE AND HISTORY WITH A
MINOR IN ENGLISH.
09:24:50 >>LUIS VIERA:
I DON'T KNOW WHY -- I GUESS WHAT YOU ARE
LOOKING TO DO WHEN YOU GET OUT OF COLLEGE IF YOU KNOW
-- IF YOU KNOW.
09:24:57 >> AS OF RIGHT NOW I AM IN THE PROCESS OF APPLYING FOR
A FULBRIGHT SCHOLARSHIP FOR LITHUANIA.
HOPEFULLY DO THAT, COME BACK, GET MY PH.D. AND POLICY
ANALYST IN EASTERN FOREIGN POLICY.
09:25:13 >>LUIS VIERA:
WOW.
VERY NARROWLY FAVORED.
09:25:20 >> I AM THE ST. PETERSBURG DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF AS
WELL.
I AM A POLITICAL SCIENCE MAJOR AND WHEN I GRADUATE, AND MY
WISH IS TO DO IMMIGRATION LAW.
09:25:30 >>LUIS VIERA:
GOOD, THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:25:31 >> GOOD MORNING.
KATHERINE MATHENY.
I AM THE TAMPA FEDERAL RANKING JUSTICE OF OUR SUPREME
COURT.
I AM A POLITICAL SCIENCE ECONOMICS MAJOR WITH A MINOR
IN LEGAL STUDIES AND PHILOSOPHY.
FOR POST GRAD HOPING TO ATTEND LAW SCHOOL AND BECOME A
CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY.
09:25:53 >> HELLO, EVERYONE.
VICTORIA WILLIAMS.
I AM THE FEDERAL CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR STUDENT
GOVERNMENT.
AND MY MAJOR IS POLITICAL SCIENCE AND HISTORY AND I
HOPE IT GO TO LAW SCHOOL AND PURSUE CORPORATE LAW.
09:26:08 >>LUIS VIERA:
GREAT.
09:26:09 >> HI, GOOD MORNING.
ALICIA WONCO, AND I AM A HEALTH SCIENCES MAJOR WITH A
MINOR IN POLITICAL SCIENCE.
I AM PLANNING TO PURSUE A MASTERS IN PUBLIC HEALTH AND
BECOME A PEDIATRICIAN.
09:26:26 >> SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANTED TO COME HERE
TODAY WAS TO PRESENT ALL OF YOU AND EVERYONE THAT IS
PRESENT WITH A VERY SPECIAL PIECE OF STUDENT GOVERNMENT
LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED THIS SEMESTER THAT I WORKED
ON VERY HARD PERSONALLY AND SOME OF MY PEERS WHO ARE
JOINING US, THE ONE USF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BILL.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS A SIGN OF THE STUDENTS BODY
PLEDGING TO HAVE A BIGGER, POSITIVE IMPACT IN THE
SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING OUR UNIVERSITY,
THAT BEING TAMPA, ST. PETERSBURG AND SARASOTA-MANATEE.
SO THIS BILL ESSENTIALLY BINDS STUDENT GOVERNMENT FOR
PARTICIPATING IN THREE OR MORE YEARLY COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES.
WHAT I MEAN BY "COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT."
IT MEANS LOCAL GOVERNMENT ELECTIONS, CHARITY EVENTS OR
LOCAL FUND RAISINGS THAT ARE CLASSIC AND HISTORIC TO
OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
YOU KNOW, THE MAIN REASON BEHIND THIS IS, AS I COME
INTO STUDENT GOVERNMENT, I REALIZE I WILL PLACE A LOT
OF EMPHASIS IN MAKING AN IMPACT ON THE STATE LEVEL
WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US AS WELL, BUT I REALIZED
THAT WE ARE NOT -- WE WEREN'T DOING AS BIG OF AN EFFORT
TO MAKE A BIGGER IMPACT ON THE LOCAL LEVEL.
SO I DECIDED TO GET TOGETHER WITH SOME OF OUR SENATORS
IN OUR STUDENT GOVERNMENT SENATE TO WORK ON THIS PIECE
OF LEGISLATION.
I HAVE IT AND WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS TO EVERYBODY
HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHO.
09:27:51 >>LUIS VIERA:
MR. CHAIR, IF YOU WANT TO GET IT.
09:27:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.
09:27:53 >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL DO IT.
YEAH, HOW ABOUT -- YOU WANT TO BRING HIM UP THERE.
09:28:30 >> FILL IN SOME GAPS HERE.
09:28:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THERE HE IS.
09:29:01 >> ONE, TWO, THREE.
09:29:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HOW MANY OF US UP HERE ARE BULLS?
VIERA, CITRO -- WE HAVE GOT THREE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:29:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ON THE DAIS
RECOGNIZED MISS SMITH.
SHE IS MY OFFICE'S INTERN.
AND SHE HAS DONE SOME EXCELLENT WORK FOR OUR OFFICE.
AND WE ARE GOING TO SEE BRIGHT THINGS COMING FROM HER.
THOUGHTS, MISS SMITH.
09:29:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
09:29:38 >>BILL CARLSON:
TO ALL OF YOU STUDENTS, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY.
IT USE TODAY BE, LIKE, 30 YEARS AGO THE PEOPLE THAT RAN
TAMPA, A LOT OF THEM WAS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
FLORIDA.
AND WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, USF AND UT HAVE
REALLY RISEN UP.
AND THE NEW USF PRESIDENT WAS CHOSEN IN PART BY A
FORMER USF STUDENT BODY PRESENT AND YOU SEE USF
LEADERSHIP THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
TO YOU AND ALL YOUR COLLEAGUES WHO AREN'T HERE, IF WE
CAN DO ANYTHING TO HELP YOU IN YOUR CAREERS AND MAKE
SURE YOU COME BACK AND GET CONNECTED IN LEADERSHIP IN
OUR COMMUNITY.
YOU DON'T NEED 20 OR 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE TO GET
INVOLVED.
YOU CAN GET INVOLVED NOW.
PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW YOU CAN HELP.
THANK YOU.
09:30:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WAS JUST INFORMED THAT ITEM 42 NEEDS TO BE WITHDRAWN.
LET ME PULL IT UP.
ITEM 42 WAS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1:30.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW 42.
09:30:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION.
09:30:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
09:30:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN VIERA, ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:30:55 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
FOR THE USF STUDENTS AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA, IF I
MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO GRAB THEM AND TAKE THEM ON A TOUR
OF THE MAGNIFICENT OFFICES.
IF Y'ALL WANT TO COME UP HERE, CONNIE, EVERYBODY.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE ARE GOING TO BE VOTING ON PUTTING FORWARD WHAT IS A
SERIES OF STEPS TO FURTHER GET THE CITY OF TAMPA BETTER
INVOLVED IN ISSUES INVOLVING RETURNING CITIZENS.
AND WANT TO DO A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION, NOT TO EXCEED
EIGHT, NINE OR TEN MINUTES WITH GREAT COMMUNITY
STAKEHOLDERS.
THE INTENT OF THIS, SIR, AND ALL OF CITY COUNCIL, IS TO
HAVE THE CITY OF TAMPA BETTER PROMOTE THROUGH THE
CONTRACTING PROCESS, OUR OWN INTERNAL PROCESSES AND
ETC.
THE PLIGHT OF EMPLOYMENTS OF RETURNING TENSE IS IT,
PEOPLE LEAVING INCARCERATION, LEAVING PRISON AND ALL
THEY WANT TO DO IS WORK HARD AND PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE
FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
WE HAVE SOME REALLY GREAT PEOPLE HERE.
AND WE ARE GOING TO START WITH OUR GOOD FRIENDS FROM
THE FLORIDA RIGHTS RESTORATION COALITION.
WE WORK WITH A NUMBER OF REALLY PROMINENT ORGANIZATIONS
IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND IN OUR CITY AND COMMUNITY
ON PUTTING FORTH A NUMBER OF PROPOSALS TO MOVE THIS
ISSUE FORWARD.
IS NEIL VOLTS AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY?
BRANDON?
OKAY, GREAT.
WE WILL BEGIN.
MISS BURTON, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN, YOU MAY.
09:32:15 >> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON, FLORIDA RIGHTS RESTORATION
COALITION.
THIS IS THE RIGHT ORDINANCE AT THE RIGHT TIME.
WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO RESTORE PEOPLE'S
LIVES, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WAYS IN WHICH SECOND CHANCES
BECOME VITAL.
THAT WHEN PEOPLE HAVE PAID -- TRULY PAID THEIR DEBT TO
SOCIETY IN WHICH THE COURTS HAVE IDENTIFIED THINGS THAT
-- EXCUSE ME -- THAT INDIVIDUALS MUST DO, THEN I THINK
IT IS MORE THAN APPROPRIATE FOR CITY GOVERNMENT TO
EXTEND ITS HANDS TO SAY, THEN, HOW DO PEOPLE THEN COME
BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITIES AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A
SENSE OF DIGNITY.
NOT ONLY HAVE WE WORKED VERY AGGRESSIVELY AROUND THE
VOTING RIGHTS, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THE SUBSTANTIALS IN
HUMAN DIGNITY AS WELL AS HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT IS
NEEDED.
SO THIS CITY CAN BE A FIRST STEP.
WE HAVE A LOT OF MAJOR PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING ON
BOARD.
WE WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE ANY OF THESE PROJECTS OR THIS
ORDINANCE USED AS JUST A MERE SMOKE AND MIRROR.
BUT HAVING REAL TANGIBLES IN PLACE, MEASUREMENTS THAT
WE CAN SAY BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMING INSIDE OF THE
CITY OF TAMPA WOULD BE ALIGNED WITH THIS AUDIENCE THAT
WILL GIVE PEOPLE REAL OPPORTUNITY.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE A WINDOW-DRESSING.
THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MONITOR PARTICIPATION, MONITOR
DEVELOPMENT, AND ALSO, ESSENTIALLY, AT THE END OF THE
DAY, SEEING PEOPLE BECOMING PRODUCTIVE TAXPAYERS.
WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THIS ORDINANCE AND YOUR
LEADERSHIP AROUND IT.
THANK YOU.
09:34:00 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
IF MR. VOLTS IS AVAILABLE.
09:34:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HE IS ONLINE.
09:34:13 >>LUIS VIERA:
HONOR TO HAVE FROM THE FLORIDA RIGHTS
COALITION.
ARE YOU IN FORT MYERS OR TALLAHASSEE?
09:34:20 >> I AM ACTUALLY IN WASHINGTON D.C. HONORED TO BE THERE
VIA TECHNOLOGY AND WHAT AN EXCITING MOMENT.
09:34:25 >>LUIS VIERA:
GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:34:25 >> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
I JUST WANT TO SAY I THINK THIS IS A REAL WIN-WIN
OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I APPRECIATE THE PROCESS IN WHICH IT IS BEING SET UP
AND THE COLLABORATION IN WHICH -- LUIS, I JUST WANT TO
SAY YOU -- COUNCILMAN, FOR REACHING OUT TO THOSE WHO
ARE MOST IMPACTED BY THESE POLICIES, OUR LOCAL BUSINESS
COMMUNITY, THE FAITH COMMUNITY, THE RETURNING CITIZEN
COMMUNITY, THOSE IMPACTED BY THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM AND BEGIN A PROCESS WHAT WE BELIEVE IS GOOD FOR
EVERYBODY.
IF SOMEBODY CAN GET WORK WHO HAS BEEN IMPACTED BY THE
CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM, NOT ONLY DO THEY BENEFIT, THE
FAMILY BENEFITS, AND OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES BENEFIT AND
OUR FAITH COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND INCREASE AND IMPROVE
PUBLIC SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITY SO EVERYONE BENEFITS.
I THINK THAT IS AN EXAMPLE AND CAN BE, YOU KNOW, A
FOUNDATION THAT CAN GROW AND ULTIMATELY LIVES CAN BE
CHANGED IN OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE IMPROVED DRAMATICALLY
BECAUSE OF THESE EFFORTS.
WANTS TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT CAME TOGETHER TO BEGIN TO
MOVE THIS PROCESS AND LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING THIS THE
BEST THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN KNOWING THAT PEOPLE'S LIVES
IN THE BACK END OF IT.
AND SAY THANK YOU TO THE RETURNING CITIZEN COMMUNITY
FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND EFFORTS.
SECOND CHANCE EMPLOYMENT IS VITAL TO ALL OF US.
THANK YOU.
09:35:49 >>LUIS VIERA:
NEIL, THANK YOU.
TO HAVE THE CITY OF TAMPA PARTNER UP WITH THE FUTURE
WITH GOOD FRIENDS AT FLORIDA RIGHTS COALITION INCLUDING
MISS BURTON.
NICHOLAS GLOVER WITH THE TAMPA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND
JOE PREVASCO WITH THE JCC FEDERATION.
GENTLEMEN.
09:36:11 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
COUNCILWOMAN, SO GOOD TO SEE YOU.
GOOD TO SAY THAT.
COUNCILMAN GUDES, SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.
NICHOLAS GLOVER, AS COUNCILMAN VIERA SHARED ON BEHALF OF
TAMPA CHAMBER.
VERY BRIEF AND LET JOE GIVE MORE DETAILED COMMENTS, BUT
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITIES TO ALLOW BUSINESSES TO DO WELL
AND DO GOOD.
I WILL TAKE THE EMOTION OUT OF IT.
WHEN WE THINK OF OUR PRIORITIES ON THE LOCAL LEVEL,
THEY GO THROUGH SEVEN GUIDING PRINCIPLES, BUT IN
ORDINANCE INTERSECTS THREE IF NOT MORE OF THEM
INCLUDING BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT AND EDUCATION, AND DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND
INCLUSION.
VERY IMPORTANT INTERSECTION.
I CANNOT OVERSTATE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR US TO THINK
ABOUT THE BEST PUBLIC POLICY INITIATIVES THAT WE CAN
PRESCRIBE TO EVERYONE IS A GOOD PAYING JOB WITH SOME
DIGNITY.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
GETTING PEOPLE BACK IN THE WORKFORCE AS CONNIE
MENTIONED.
BACK WITH US PAYING TAXES.
THAT IS THE BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTION FOR YOU AS THE
CHAMBER SEES IT.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU COUNCILMAN VIERA ON
THIS INITIATIVE AND ADVOCATE TO OUR MEMBERS AND BROADER
BUSINESS COMMUNITY HOW IMPORTANT THIS INITIATIVE IS FOR
US ALL.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
09:37:29 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
09:37:30 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
JOE PREVASCO, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
ADDRESS THE COUNCIL THIS MORNING.
IF YOU ASK ANY BUSINESS LEADER IN THE COMMUNITY, WE ARE
FACING THREE THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO THE LABOR POOL:
RECRUITMENT, RETENTION, AND UPSCALING.
IF YOU READ THE NEWS, YOU ARE HEARING LABOR SHORTAGE.
LABOR SHORTAGE.
I CAN'T FIND TALENT.
I CAN'T FIND TALENT.
I THINK WHAT WE ARE DOING IS OVERLOOKING A TREMENDOUS
LABOR POOL AVAILABLE FOR US IF WE POLISH THE LENS A
LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
MY ROLE HERE AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS OWNER IN TAMPA IS TO
REALLY EDUCATE MY COUNTERPARTS AND USE THIS AS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEM LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT
DIFFERENTLY AND TAKE A STEP BACK.
WE ARE BLESSED IN TAMPA TO HAVE ONE OF THE MOST
INNOVATIVE BUSINESS COMMUNITIES THAT YOU WILL SEE IN
THIS COUNTRY AND SOMETIMES WE NEED TO TAKE STEP BACK
AND SAY IS THIS SYSTEM WE HAVE IN PLACE MAKING SENSE.
I THINK IF WE DO THAT OBJECTIVELY, THE ANSWER IS NO.
WE TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THIS RESOLUTION AND
ORDINANCE DOES TO LEAD FROM THE CITY SIDE ALLOW US FROM
THE PRIVATE MARKETS TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH OUR
COUNTERPARTS AND SAY, LISTEN, LET'S LOOK AT THIS LABOR
POOL.
LET'S LOOK AT THIS DIFFERENTLY THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST
AND SEE IF WE CAN HELP REDUCE LABOR ISSUES AND GET
FOLKS SOME GOOD PAYING JOBS.
I THINK WHAT THE DATA WILL SHOW AND WHAT THE DATA
SUPPORTS, ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE LOYAL EMPLOYEES
THAT PERFORM AT PAR OR ABOVE.
THEY ARE COUNTERPARTS AND JUST A WAY TO REVISITS THIS
AND LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS EVERYBODY THIS
MORNING.
AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL CONSIDERING THIS
ORDINANCE.
09:39:11 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, JOE.
NEXT, A GENTLEMAN WHO I THINK ADDRESSED US TWO WEEKS
AGO.
MY GOOD FRIEND, MR. ROBERT BROWN, PRESIDENT OF
ABE BROWN MINISTRIES AND READ A STATEMENT FROM FREDDY
BARTON FROM SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH.
GO AHEAD.
09:39:32 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE OF MEN AND WOMEN RETURNING FROM
INCARCERATION IS 20% HIGHER THAN JUST OUR AVERAGE
CITIZEN.
AND OUR FOUNDER REVEREND ABE BROWN WAS A MAN FULL OF
BIG IDEAS COME TO BELIEVED YOU SHOULD LIVE AND LEAD BY
EXAMPLE, AND SIGN THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY OF LEADERSHIP.
WHEN OTHER EMPLOYERS SEE THE CITY OF TAMPA LEADING IN
THIS ARENA, THEY WILL FOLLOW.
AND I AM ALSO PLEASED TO SAY THAT ABE BROWN MINISTRIES,
TOO, PRACTICE WHAT WE PREACH.
WE HAVE TWO EMPLOYEES WHO ARE FORMERLY INCARCERATED.
INDIVIDUALS -- ONE OF WHOM SERVED TEN YEARS IN PRISON.
WAS DIVORCED.
HIS WIFE DIVORCED HIM WHILE HE WAS INCARCERATED.
BUT WHEN HE GOT OUT, HE NOT ONLY REMARRIED HIS WIFE AND
PURSUED THAT RELATIONSHIP, BUT, AGAIN, TO THE USF
STUDENTS, HE IS A GRADUATE OF THE SCHOOL OF SOCIAL WORK
AT USF.
HE IS DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB AND EMPLOYED WITH US FOR
TWO YEARS.
AND THAT IS REALLY THE STORY THAT WE HOPE THAT THROUGH
THIS TYPE OF LEADERSHIP WE CAN CONTINUE TO DEMONSTRATE
HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE
AND TO LEAD IN THIS VERY CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT MATTER.
THANK YOU.
09:40:57 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, ROBERT.
I WILL READ A STATEMENT FROM FREDDY BARTON.
WE WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA
TO GIVE US A BIGGER FOOTPRINT ON THE ISSUE OF RETURNING
CITIZENS BY ENCOURAGING CONTRACTORS TO HIRE CITIZENS
AND BY FORMALLY THE FIRST TIME EVER STARTING WITH CITY
DOLLARS, PARTNERSHIP FOR THE COUNTY WITH APPRENTICESHIP
AND TRAINING SOLELY DESIGNATED FOR RETURNING CITIZENS
AND WE HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM GWEN MYERS, COUNTY
COMMISSIONER TO SEEK THAT MONEY AND HAVE THE CITY
REPORT ON THE NUMBER OF RETURNING CITIZENS WE HIRE TO
CONTINUE TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE TO MAKE THAT THE FIRST STEP
AND PARTNERING UP WITH FRIENDS IN THE PRIVATES SECTOR,
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND ENCOURAGING THE HIRING OF
RETURNING CITIZENS.
FROM MR. BARTON READS AS FOLLOWS: GOOD MORNING TO THE
CHAIR AND MEMBERS CITY COUNCIL AND EVERYBODY PRESENT.
IT IS MY PLEASURE TO SPEAK ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.
UNFORTUNATELY, I AM NOT ABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON, BUT
IMPORTANT TO LET YOU KNOW WHY.
AT THIS TIME I AM CURRENTLY IN TODAY'S JUVENILE
DETENTION HEARINGS WHERE PREARRAIGNMENT STATUS FOR
YOUTHS ARRESTED YESTERDAY.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS A DAILY EVENT.
THE YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE IN NEED OF SEVERAL
SERVICES, BUT A POSITIVE PATHWAY OUT OF DELINQUENCY IS
ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES.
WE KNOW THAT EDUCATION AND GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT TWO OF
THE GREAT EQUALIZERS IN LIFE.
SURVEY DONE RECENTLY WITH 50 YOUTH ARRESTED HERE IN
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHOW THAT 65% OF YOUTH ARREST HUMID
ONE OR MORE PARENTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY INCARCERATED
OR ARRESTED HALF OF THOSE PARENTS HAD NOT BEEN EMPLOYED
FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.
WITH NO LEGAL MEANS TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES, WE
SEE THE PROPENSITY OF FURTHER CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR AND-OR
VIOLENCE.
WE AT SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH WORK TO PREVENT
VIOLENCE FOR YOUTH AND THEIR FAMILIES, WE KNOW THERE
MUST BE POLICIES IN PLACE OF SECURING GAINFUL
EMPLOYMENT ALLOWING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
FAMILY-SUSTAINING EMPLOYMENT INCREASING QUALITY OF LIFE
FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES AND SHOWING OUR YOUTH
THAT THOUGH YOU MAY HAVE MADE A MISTAKE IN THE PAST,
YOU ARE NOT YOUR MISTAKE.
NOT YOUR MISTAKE IN CAPS.
PARENTHESES.
WE FULLY COMMIT THIS ENDEAVOR AND PARTNER WITH THE CITY
AND COMMUNITY FOR TRAINING ASSISTANCE, WRAP-AROUND
SUPPORT AND MENTORSHIP AS PART OF THIS INITIATIVE.
FREDDY BARTON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SAFE AND SOUND
HILLSBOROUGH.
AGAIN, I WANTED TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THIS ISSUE
BEFORE WE DEAL WITH THIS TOWARD THE END OF COUNCIL.
AND IF MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
09:43:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:43:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BACK IN 2019, I MADE A MOTION IN
REFERENCE TO THIS SAME TYPE OF PROGRAM.
AND ASKED FOR HR TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE CRITERIA.
I THINK THEY CAME BACK AND LOOKED AT SOME THINGS.
I AM GLAD WE HAVE A BIGGER GROUP TO GET THINGS MOVING.
I DID LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE AND I TALKED TO MR. BENNETT
ABOUT THAT.
I HAVE SOME CONCERNS BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
ORDINANCE -- LOOK WHAT THE ORDINANCE PRESENTS, A LOT OF
TIMES, WE WANT TO DO GOOD, BUT THERE ARE OTHER
BARRIERS.
AND WE LOOK AT THE BARRIERS, IT'S THE INSURANCE
CARRIERS THAT HAVE A BARRIER TO WHERE THEY WILL NOT
ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE HIRED.
SO I TALKED TO MR. BENNETT AND HOPEFULLY, HE WILL TALK
HOW TO GET A PILOT PROGRAM FOR THE BOND SITUATION
BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR BEST INTENTIONS.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU, THERE IS A ROADBLOCK THERE THAT IS
STOPPING THE PROCESS.
MAYBE THE CITY AND THE COUNTY CAN COME UP WITH SOME
KIND OF PILOT PROGRAM WITH THE PROGRAM TO FOSTER AND
MOVE THE RE-ENTRY OF SECOND CHANCE SO PEOPLE CAN BE
EMPLOYED.
HOPEFULLY HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.
AND MR. BENNETT AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET
TO ITEM 50 TODAY.
THERE IS A ROADBLOCK AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO -- WE
WOULD LIKE TO DO THINGS AT A LOCAL AND NEED MISS HART
AND OTHERS TO GET ON BOARD TO KNOCK THE WHOLE BLOCK
DOWN.
THANK YOU.
09:44:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN FORGIVENESS AND SECOND CHANCES.
I MENTIONED IT A FEW TIMES UP HERE.
WHAT IS THE POINT OF SOMEBODY GIVING A PRISON SENTENCE
FOR WHATEVER LONG IT MAY BE.
THEY GET OUT OF PRISON.
AND THEY ARE CONTINUOUSLY PUNISHED.
LIKE A PERPETUAL SLAVERY, THEY CAN'T GET A HAND UP --
NOT A HAND OUT, BUT A HAND UP TO REJOIN SOCIETY AND BE
PRODUCTIVE.
INSTEAD THEY ARE KEPT IN THIS PERPETUITY OF THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
AND YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.
YOU KNOW THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATES, THE ISSUES, THE ROAD
BLOCKS, ALL THIS STUFF.
GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO -- TO GET THEIR RIGHTS
RESTORED, TO VOTE, TO WORK.
I MEAN I KNOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE I HAVE MET IN MY LIFE
THAT STUPID PINGS WHEN THEY WERE YOUNG.
ONE GENTLEMAN WAS IN PRISON FOR 12 YEARS ROBBING A
7-ELEVEN AT GUNPOINT.
IF I YOU DIDN'T KNOW OR TELL STORY YOU WOULD THINK A
NICE GUY.
HE TOLD ME THE STORY THAT WHEN HE GOT OUT OF PRISON, HE
WENT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HERE TO APPLY FOR A JOB.
HE SAID I WILL DO EVERYTHING,
MOP THE FLOORS AND WHATEVER IT IS AND THEY LAUGHED AT
HIM THINKING ARE YOU CRAZY.
YOU JUST GOT OUT OF PRISON 12 YEARS.
HE STARTED HIS OWN CLEANING BUSINESS.
HE HAS HIS OWN FAMILY.
HE HAS A HOUSE.
PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY AND REGISTERED TO VOTE
OVER MANY, MANY YEARS.
IT LIVES THAT WE LIVE IN SUCH A JUDGMENTAL SOCIETY THAT
WE PUNISH PEOPLE.
GIVE THEM A SENTENCE OF WHATEVER IT IS AND WE
CONTINUOUSLY PUNISH THEM WITHOUT LETTING THEM JUST BE
PRODUCTIVE.
LIVE THEIR LIFE LIKE ANY HUMAN BEING.
I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP.
I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN GUDES BRINGING UP THIS EARLIER.
I AM IN TOTAL SUPPORT.
I WANT TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO SUPPORT THOSE
INDIVIDUALS WHO MADE MISTAKES.
WE ALL MADE MY STAKES.
THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BE FREE AND BE PRODUCTIVE AND VOTE
AND TAKE PART IN OUR ELECTION SYSTEM.
SO MANY THINGS TO SAY, BUT SECOND CHANCES AND
FORGIVENESS.
PRACTICE WHAT WE PREACH AND THANK YOU, SIR, AND ALL THE
SPEAKERS TODAY FOR COMING.
ANYBODY ELSE ON THE DAIS?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:47:19 >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY TO COUNCILMAN GUDES' POINT.
I ALWAYS JOKE THE TEN SUGGESTIONS, NOT THE TEN
COMMANDMENTS.
100% FOR IMPROVEMENT.
AND MY INTENT ON THIS IS TO GET THE CONVERSATION
STARTED BY GETTING OUR FEET IN THE WATER, SO TO SPEAK,
ON THIS ISSUE TO GAIN THE PEOPLE'S TRUST BY HAVING A
TEST PILOT, APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM WITH THE COUNTY TO
GIVE SKILLS TO PEOPLE AND THIS ISSUE -- PEOPLE WERE
RAISED IN THE SUBURBS, ETC.
AND YOU NEVER THINK ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THIS.
SHOULD THINK AS AMERICANS.
CHRISTIAN, JEW, MUSLIM, WHATEVER, WE SHOULD THINK OF
THIS AS A COMPASSIONATE PERSON.
09:48:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. CHAIR, CAN I REQUEST A QUESTION.
CHIEF BENNETT.
09:48:16 >>JOHN BENNETT:
GOOD MORNING.
09:48:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THE CITY HAS A POLICY OF BAN THE BOX.
CAN WE MANDATORY MAKE COMPANIES THAT DO CONTRACT WORK
WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, CAN WE MAKE EMPLOYERS THAT WORK
WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA -- WITH WE MAKE IT POSSIBLE THAT
IN THEIR APPLICATIONS THEY HAVE ALSO BAN THE BOX SO
THAT WORK THAT IS BEING DONE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA,
MUCH LIKE OUR -- OUR NONFOSSIL FUEL CONTAINERS DURING
EVENTS.
CAN WE DO THAT FOR THE COMPANIES THAT WORK WITH THE
CITY OF TAMPA?
09:48:57 >>JOHN BENNETT:
SURE, JOHN BENNETT.
COUNCILMAN GUDES' POINT.
WE HAVE AN LEGAL ACTION.
I DON'T KNOW THE LEGALITY OF MAKING THEM DO IT, BUT I
DO KNOW QUITE OFTEN IN OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS THERE
ARE BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT COME THROUGH TO THE CITY.
I HAVE PERSONALLY SCRUTINIZED THOSE ALL THE WAY BACK --
I WAS TELLING COUNCILMAN GUDES' YESTERDAY EVEN BACK TO
THE 2009 SUPER BOWL WHEN THE FEDS WERE RUNNING
EVERYBODY BEFORE THE EVENT.
I HAD THE FINAL AUTHORITY TO APPROVE ALL THE WORK
FORCES AND A LOT OF THEM HAD RECORDS AND I PASSED THEM
RIGHT THROUGH, BECAUSE THE TYPE OF WORK THEY WERE DOING
AND BACKGROUNDS MET AN OPPORTUNITY.
SO THERE IS OPPORTUNITY AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AS
A CITY ARE THOSE COMPANIES THAT OPT IN TO BAN THE BOX
MAY BE ABLE TO GET EQUAL OPPORTUNITY POINTS IN THE
SYSTEM SO THAT WAY WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET
ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH THE CITY.
IF I COULD HAVE A POINT OF PRIVILEGE.
I WANT TO SHARE A STORY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
RIGHT AT THE END OF MY CAREER I GOT A CALL FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS SAYING THEY WERE RELEASING IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH NO ADDRESS ONE OF THE WORST
OFFENDERS THEY HAD THAT SAT IN PRISON FOR 25 YEARS.
THEY SAID THEY WERE DROPPING HIM OFF AT THE BUS STOP ON
NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE BECAUSE THIS PERSON HAD NO ADDRESS
AND THEY SAID HE WILL BE A DANGER TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I GOT OUT OF MY OFFICE.
I SAID HAVE THEM MEET ME AT THE CORNER, THIS
GENTLEMAN.
HE SAT IN PRISON FOR 25 YEARS.
HE WAS BEING DROPPED OFF HERE.
I CALLED THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND THREE DAYS OF
PAYING FOR SHELTER, THEY GAVE HIM A JOB AT MY REQUEST.
THAT GUY WITHIN SEVERAL MONTHS HAD HIS OWN APARTMENT,
HIS OWN JOB AND STILL WORKING TODAY AFTER 25 YEARS.
SO THERE ARE TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITIES.
AND ONE PARTNER WITH PARTNERS WE CAN DO MORE.
ONE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON WITHIN
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS THE DEPARTMENT OF
CORRECTIONS.
AND THE RISK AND NEEDS AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THESE
PROGRAMS, QUITE OFTEN THE PEOPLE I HIRED IN THE CITY
WHO HAVE BACKGROUNDS HAVE GONE THROUGH SPECIALIZED
TRAINING WHILE THEY WERE DOING THEIR COMMUNITY JUSTICE,
IF YOU WILL.
THEY COME OUT AND THEY ARE HIRABLE BY THE CITY.
WE HAVE PROGRESSION IN THE SPACE.
BUT WITH THESE PARTNERS WE CAN DO A LOT MORE.
THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, YES.
I THINK THE WAY WE ARE LOOKING AT IT IS APPLY
ADDITIONAL POINTS FOR COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE THAT
OPPORTUNITY.
09:51:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ONE LAST STATEMENT, MR. CHAIR.
THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT.
IF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS GOING TO LEAD THE WAY ON THIS,
EVERYBODY THAT IS INVOLVED WITH WORK IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA SHOULD FOLLOW.
SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:51:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CHIEF BENNETT, YOU KNOW, YOU
PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH.
MANY TIMES I SEE YOU -- I KNOW YOU GO TO CHURCH EVERY
MORNING.
MANY TIMES I HAVE BEEN IN THE BACK.
I SEE YOU.
YOU LIVE BY FAITH.
IN HOW YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE AND THE PEOPLE THAT YOU
HELPED.
YOU PROVEN IT JUST IN THAT STORY BUT ONE OF MANY
STORIES.
I KNOW YOUR CHARACTER AND I THINK WE ALL CAN LEARN FOR
THAT COMPASSION, SECOND CHANCES, FORGIVENESS, LIFT
PEOPLE UP, LET PEOPLE BE PRODUCTIVE.
HELP THEM BE PRODUCTIVE.
09:52:10 >>JOHN BENNETT:
YOU ARE WELCOME AND THIS
ADMINISTRATION SUPPORTS STAFF FROM THE TOP DOWN.
THANK YOU.
09:52:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I CAN ELSE?
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA AND ALL THE SPEAKERS.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC -- BEFORE -- RECORDING ROME YARD,
WHEN WE COME BACK FROM LUNCH, LET'S SAY 1:30 SO WE HAVE
A TIME CERTAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE ROME YARD
DISCUSSION FIRST.
WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING AND ROME YARD AT 1:30.
YOU CAN SPEAK NOW, BUT WE WILL BRING IT -- BECAUSE WE
HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE FOR IT.
YES, MR. SHELBY.
09:52:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE CHAIR FOR THE FLOOR TO OPEN ITEMS
THEN OR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ROME YARD.
09:52:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SPEAK UP TO ROME YARD AND LEAVE IT
UP TO THE STAFF AT 1:30.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:53:02 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I JUST ASK -- ASK CHIEF OF STAFF
AND LEGAL WHY ROME YARD WAS PUT ON CONSENT AGENDA.
WITH A 99-YEAR LEASE, THE TOTAL OF IT WOULD SURPASS THE
TOTAL AMOUNT THAT SHOULD BE ON CONSENT AGENDA.
I KNOW YOU ASKED TO MOVE IT TO STAFF REPORTS.
WHY WAS IT PUT ON CONSENTS?
09:53:25 >>JOHN BENNETT:
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, COUNCILMAN.
BETWEEN THAT AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE, THAT IS WHERE IT
LANDED.
09:53:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK COUNCIL.
BUT WE DISCUSSED THIS -- I DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE
CLERK'S OFFICE.
THE PROCESS IS WHEN IT GOES THROUGH SIRE AND THE CLERK
CAN CLARIFY CERTAINLY, IT IS NORMALLY PLACED ON THE
CONSENTS DOCKET.
IF THE DEPARTMENT REQUESTS IT IS PULLED.
OR A COUNCILMEMBER IT IS PULLED.
09:53:51 >>BILL CARLSON:
A DOLLAR AMOUNT MINIMUM THAT IF YOU
LOOK AT THE 99 YEARS OF THE LEASE THAT SURPASSES THAT.
IN THE FIRST YEAR IT DOESN'T, BUT AFTER THAT IT DOES.
09:54:03 >>CLERK:
IF IT IS OVER $3 MILLION, IT IS AUTOMATICALLY
PLACED ON THE STAFF REPORT.
IN THIS CASE REFERENCED OVER $3 MILLION.
THAT IS WHY STAFF ASKED TO BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
09:54:14 >>BILL CARLSON:
TWO AND A HALF MILLION THE FIRST YEAR
BUT THEN 15% OF RENT OVER 99 YEARS.
THAT HAS GOT TO SURPASS -- DOESN'T SAY CLEARLY AN
ESTIMATED NUMBER BUT WAY, WAY, WAY OVER $2.5 MILLION,
WAY OVER $3 MILLION.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE ITEM.
THANK YOU.
09:54:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST A CLARIFICATION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE PLANNING TO BE AT THE 1:30
PUBLIC HEARING, ITEM 41.
IT IS YOUR INTENT -- COUNCIL'S INTENTS TO TAKE ITEMS 20
AND 21 BEFORE ITEM 41, THE 1:30?
09:54:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE THEM PULLED FOR DISCUSSION
TO GO UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:55:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
09:55:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
20 AND 21 IS WHAT I AM TALKING
ABOUT.
1:30.
FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:55:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE QUESTION WHAT TIME ITEM 41 WILL
BE TAKEN UP --
09:55:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IMMEDIATELY AFTER.
09:55:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IMMEDIATELY AFTER.
09:55:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT ONE PUBLIC HEARING.
IMMEDIATELY AFTER.
09:55:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
UNDERSTOOD, THANK YOU.
09:55:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROME DISCUSSION MAY BE 15 MINUTES,
30 MINUTES.
WE WILL GO TO ROME AFTER THAT.
IS THAT FINE?
09:55:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHEN THE PEOPLE -- I DON'T KNOW
WHETHER THE PEOPLE COMING IN FOR THE 1:30 PUBLIC
HEARING WHETHER THEY ARE HEARING THIS OR NOT, BUT THEY
WILL BE INFORMED IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
09:55:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM INCLUDING THE
ROME YARD.
PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTERN AND SAY YOUR NAME.
YES, SIR, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:56:01 >> BOB BITMORE, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CITY TREE.
I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING, COUNCILMAN GUDES,
I AM VERY SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.
AZING WHEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE THAT IN OUR LIVES.
IT JUST CHANGES THINGS AND IT IS GOOD THAT WE RECOGNIZE
THAT.
I SPENT A FEW YEARS FIGHTING FOR TREES IN THIS ROOM.
I HAD A FEW WINS AND A LOT OF LOSSES.
BUT ALWAYS PROUD OF THE PROCESS.
THE FACT THAT THE CITIZENS CAN FIGHT FOR TREES IN THE
CITY IS ADMIRABLE.
BUT I NEVER REALIZED WHEN WE LOST THAT THE DECK WAS SO
STACKED AND THE SYSTEM WAS CORRUPTED.
AND JOHN DINGFELDER WAS FORCED OFF AS COUNCIL.
REVEAL A HARD TRUTH THAT A WELL-FUNDED GROUP OF
POWERFUL MEN AND WOMEN HAVE GAINED CONTROL OVER ELECTED
OFFICIALS WITH THE PROMISE OF MONEY OR A THREAT OF
LEGAL REPRISAL IF THEY DON'T TOW THE LINE.
COMPOUNDED BY AN ADMINISTRATION HELL BENT ON
DEVELOPMENT AT ALL COSTS.
THEY HAVE AN AGENDA.
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THEIR GRIPS.
THEY HAVE THE MONEY AND LEGAL FIRE POWER TO PUT IT NOT
THE FEAR OF GOD, THE FEAR OF LITIGATION INTO ANY
REPRESENT I HAVE THAT MIGHT CROSS THEM.
JOHN DINGFELDER CROSSED THEM.
AND HE DEALT -- AND HE WAS DEALT WITH BRUTALLY.
EVERYONE HERE KNOWS IT.
AND ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN PAYING ATTENTION, KNOWS IT.
THE MAYOR DIDN'T ASK JOHN DINGFELDER TO RESIGN.
THIS COUNCIL DIDN'T ASK JOHN DINGFELDER TO RESIGN.
YOU, THE PEOPLE, YOU CERTAINLY DIDN'T ASK JOHN
DINGFELDER TO RESIGN.
AND JOHN DINGFELDER DID NOT WANT TO RESIGN.
JOHN DINGFELDER WAS FORCED OUT OF OFFICE BY A
DEVELOPER, UNABLE TO PAY TO FIGHT THEM.
HE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO RESIGN.
AND THAT SHOULD, REGARDLESS OF YOUR POLITICS, MAKE YOU
VERY, VERY MAD.
BECAUSE THE VERY IDEA THAT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN BE
FORCED TO RESIGN BY LAWYERS AND DEVELOPERS STRIKE AT
THE VERY HEART OF OUR DEMOCRACY.
WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THIS ANGER?
WELL, YOU COME DOWN HERE AND LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL
AND TAKE YOUR THREE MINUTES TO TALK AND GIVE ANYONE WHO
COUNTS AN EARFUL.
THESE COUNCILMEMBERS, THE MAYOR, HER STAFF, PROBABLY A
FEW COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.
OR YOU CAN WAIT TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD AT THE BALLOT
BOX.
I SUSPECT SOMEONE WILL BE WILLING TO GIVE THIS
COMPLICITY ADMINISTRATION A RUN FOR THEIR MONEY
CONSIDERING RECENT EVENTS.
OR YOU COULD DONATE TO THE GO FUND ME STARTED OUT TO
HELP JOHN RECOVER SOME OF HIS LOSSES INCURRED IN
FIGHTING THE DEVELOPERS.
GO FUND ME.
TYPE IN DEFEND DINGFELDER IN THE SEARCH BOX AND GO FROM
THERE.
A GREAT WAY TO FEEL LIKE YOU DID SOMETHING AND BELIEVE
ME, A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING BUT
MONEY AND VOTERS SEE US HAND $65,000 TO JOHN
DINGFELDER, RAISED $10 AT A TIME, THAT WILL GET SOME
ATTENTION.
IT JUST MAY TAKE SOME OF YOUR ANGER AWAY.
YOU CAN MAKE YOUR DONATIONS ANONYMOUSLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:59:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER.
YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
09:59:13 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, ERNST CONEY WITH THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE ALWAYS IN MY PRAYERS.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
WE LOOK AT THAT PROJECT AND THINK ABOUT IT FROM, ONE,
FROM A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE.
THERE IS A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON THAT PROJECT
FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE INPUT ON SEVERING FROM
ENITIES TO ALL TYPES OF EQUITABLE AND INCLUSION TO BE
INCLUDED IN THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT SMALL
BUSINESSES BOTH HISPANIC AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN ARE
INCLUDED ON THAT PROJECT.
ALSO THE FORESIGHT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE TALKED ABOUT
THE SKILLS GAP AND THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING WORKFORCE
INITIATIVES.
PART OF THIS IS ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A --
THERE IS A TRAINING SPACE THERE ON THE PROJECT AS WELL.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE
ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND THE HIGH SCHOOLS THERE SO WE CAN
TRAIN YOUNG FOLKS ON THE TRADES AS WELL AS INTRODUCING
THEM TO PROFESSIONAL DEGREES.
ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, URBAN PLANNER.
WE CAN START AT AN EARLY AGE TO INTRODUCE THEM TO THESE
CONCEPTS.
A LOT OF RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR JOBS.
OFTENTIMES THEY WALK BY PROJECTS AND THEY SEE OTHER
PEOPLE WORKING AND THEY ARE NOT WORKING.
WE WANT TO TRAIN RESIDENTS TO WORK ON THOSE PROJECTS AT
THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
AND THEN AGAIN, WHEN IT IS ALL SAID AND DONE AND IT IS
FINISHED, A TRAINING CENTER TO LOOK AT ONE OF FASTEST
GROWING INDUSTRIES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE.
HEALTH CARE, INNOVATION, I.T.
SO WE CAN CONTINUE THIS TRAINING PROCESS AND SMALL
BUSINESSES THERE THAT WILL ALSO NEED THE SUPPORT OF A
WORKFORCE TRAINING OPERATION.
WE BROUGHT TOGETHER THE CDC OF TAMPA AND THE WEST TAMPA
CDC TO HELP WITH THE COMPONENTS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
AND WORK FORCE INITIATIVES.
EXCITED TO BE PART OF THIS PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY THIS
WILL BE A TREMENDOUS PROJECT THAT WE CAN REALLY SET AS
A BEST PRACTICE OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OTHER
PROJECTS GOING FORWARD.
THANK YOU.
10:01:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:01:28 >> ROBIN LOCKETT.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I CAME DOWN HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE COMPLAINT REGISTRY
THAT IS BEING HEARD LATER ON TODAY.
BUT I NOTICE ON THE AGENDA, ALSO, THERE IS SOMETHING
AROUND THE 60-DAY NOTICE OF RENT INCREASE.
I AM IN SUPPORT OF THAT.
I THINK COUNCIL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO DO
SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, RIGHT.
AND NOT TO FOLLOW A TREND.
ACROSS THE STATE, EVERYBODY IS GIVING A 60 DAY --
EVERYONE IS GIVING A 60-DAY NOTICE FOR RENT INCREASE.
WHEN A PERSON IS DEALING WITH THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, THE LACK OF FINDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE
ACTUAL RENT INCREASE, AND OTHERS, IT WILL TAKE A PERSON
-- WE ARE PUSHING FOR A 90-DAY OPTION, INSTEAD OF THE
60 DAY TO PROVIDE THAT PERSON MORE TIME TO BE ABLE TO
SAVE THEIR MONEY, PAY FOR THE DEPOSIT, PAY FOR THE FEES
AND STILL PAY RENT WHERE THEY ARE.
SO WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF IT.
WE WANT IT TO BE EXPANDED.
I SENT INFORMATION TO -- TO TWO OF THE COUNCILMEN.
I WILL SEND IT TO EVERYONE.
ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE ARE SENDING OUT TO THE
COUNCILMEN I WILL SEND IT TO EVERYONE SO YOU CAN REVIEW
IT.
A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND
PROVIDE A DIFFERENT WAY FOR PEOPLE.
WE ARE -- LIKE I SAID WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE
COMPLAINT REGISTRY.
WHERE IT HOLDS ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE LANDLORDS.
RIGHT.
HAS TOO HOLD ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE LANDLORDS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:03:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:03:30 >> MALIK EPDALA.
IT IS STILL MORNING BUT ANYWAY, WHATEVER AGREEMENT TO
ACCEPT IT IN THE APPROPRIATE TIME FRAME THAT IS
PRESENTED.
MY ISSUE IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
LET'S GO BACK SOME YEARS AND LOOK AT, HOW DO WE GET
HERE.
IN TERMS OF THIS HOUSING SITUATION OR THE PEOPLE OF LOW
INCOME OR MINIMUM INCOME.
NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD HOUSING THAT COME FROM GREEDY
MEN.
THAT OPPRESS PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.
OPPRESSING THEM EITHER -- EVEN FURTHER SO WHAT WE WANT
TO DO.
WE WANT TO REPRESENT THESE PEOPLE AND LET'S STOP THIS.
LET'S MAKE SURE THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOW INCOME, NO
INCOME, OR EVEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED FOR
MANY, MANY YEARS BY EUROPEAN AMERICANS.
THAT INCLUDE YOU GUYS.
YOU GUYS THAT ARE EUROPEANS UP HERE.
YOU ARE A PART OF THAT PROBLEM.
AND YOU ARE BENEFITING FROM IT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANT TO STOP IT.
YOU GOT A COLLECTIVE MINDS HERE THAT CAN STOP IT.
SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THAT KEEP YOU FROM STOPPING IT?
PERHAPS IT IS YOUR POCKETBOOK, THE GREED THAT WE ALL
HAVE IN US.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED
400 YEARS.
400-PLUS YEARS.
ARE WE WILLING TO STOP IT?
NO, BECAUSE AGAIN WE ARE BENEFITTING FROM IT.
SO IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, TALK TO THOSE
PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING.
ASK THEM HOW CAN WE DO THIS.
GET THEM INVOLVED.
GET OUT YOUR ANTENNAS OUT THERE AND TALK TO THESE
PEOPLE.
SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE.
THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE.
YOU MAKE THE RULES.
AND YOU ALSO BREAK THE RULES.
AND YOU BREAK THE RULES BRETT OWEN IT IS APPROPRIATE OR
WHEN IT IS BENEFICIAL TO YOU THAT MAKE THE RULES.
SO WE CAN STOP THIS WITH A LITTLE APPLICATION,
INTELLIGENT APPLICATION.
CONCERN FOR YOUR FELLOW MAN.
WE ARE YOUR FELLOW MAN.
I REPRESENT PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED.
I AM NOT OPPRESSED ANYMORE BECAUSE I DON'T ALLOW MYSELF
TO BE OPPRESSED.
THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED THEY DON'T KNOW
AND DON'T SEE THE WAY OUT.
AND THIS WHOLE SITUATION IN THIS HOUSING THING AND
RESTORATION OF RIGHTS AND PRISON REFORM, ETC., ETC.,
THESE THINGS ARE BEING PROSTITUTED, SOLD TO THE HIGHEST
BIDDER, SOLD TO THE PERSON THAT CAN GARNISH THE MOST
MONEY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE STACKING THEIR POCKET OR
PACKING THEIR POCKET WITH THE BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS OF
THESE POOR PEOPLE.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
10:06:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:06:30 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
MY NAME IS LYNN MYERS, AND I LIVE IN ZIP CODE 33629,
SOUTH TAMPA.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO
ADDRESS YOU THIS MORNING.
PRETTY MUCH I WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT THE LAST TWO
SPEAKERS HAD TO SAY.
44% OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN TAMPA ARE RENTERS.
IN 2021, THERE WAS A 24% INCREASE IN RENTS IN THIS
CITY.
IT CONTINUES TO RISE.
I READ IN THE NEWSPAPER SO MANY CASES.
I HAVE SOME PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, MOSTLY FROM MY
CHILDREN'S FRIENDS WHO ARE GRADUATING FROM COLLEGE NOW.
THEY ARE TRYING TO GO OUT TO FIND AN APARTMENT TO LIVE.
THEY HAVE FAIRLY LOW WAGE JOBS.
THEY COULDN'T AFFORD AN APARTMENT IN TAMPA.
MAYBE THEY CAN AFFORD IT AN HOUR AND A HALF NORTH OF
HERE, BUT THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO WORK IN TAMPA AND LIVE
IN.
PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR MINIMUM WAGE, THERE IS NO WAY THAT
A PERSON MAKING MINIMUM WAGE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE
TAMPA AREA.
AND IT ESPECIALLY EFFECTS PEOPLE OF COLOR.
AND IT EFFECTS ALL OF US, BUT ESPECIALLY PEOPLE OF
COLOR.
AND WE SHOULD ALL CARE ABOUT EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN OUR
CITY.
BECAUSE THOSE WHO LIVE IN OUR CITY, ALL OF US, WHETHER
WE MAKE A LOT OF MONEY OR WHETHER WE MAKE LOW WAGES, WE
ALL PARTICIPATE HERE.
WE ALL LIVE HERE.
WE WORK HERE.
WE SPEND MONEY HERE.
ANYWAY.
WHAT I WANT TO SAY WHICH SEEMS TO BE OBVIOUS TO
EVERYONE, BUT I THINK WHICH IS OVERLOOKED IS THAT
SHELTER, FOOD AND WATER ARE BASIC NECESSITIES AND
PEOPLE IN TAMPA, MANY OF US CANNOT HAVE SHELTER.
IT'S VERY NICE THAT WE ARE GOING TO GIVE AN EXTRA
OUNT OF TIME FOR -- TO NOTIFY RENTERS THAT THEIR RENT
IS GOING TO GO UP, BUT IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY IT,
WHAT DOES THAT MATTER.
SO I'M HERE TO SAY THAT WE NEED -- I AM APPEALING -- I
APPEALING TO YOUR HUMANITY.
AND I AM IMPLORING YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND TO
DECLARE A HOUSING STATE OF EMERGENCY IN TAMPA SO THAT
RENT CONTROL CAN BECOME EFFECTIVE.
PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING.
THANK YOU.
10:09:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PASTOR WILLIAMS, ARE YOU NEXT, SIR?
10:09:30 >> NO, GO AHEAD.
YOU ARE BEFORE ME.
10:09:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATES YOUR
NAME.
10:09:38 >> GOOD MORNING, BARBARA VAN ERDSALE.
I AM 71 AND I HAVE BEEN DISABLED A LONG TIME AND
SUFFERED A STROKE DURING A HURRICANE IN BROWARD COUNTY.
I WAS UNCONSCIOUS THREE WEEKS.
WOKE UP PARALYZED WITH MY LEFT ARM TO MOVE AND THAT WAS
IT.
I WENT HOME TO DIE.
I HAD A SPECIAL NEEDS SON THAT TURNED 26 THAT YEAR, WHO
WAS STILL LIVING WITH ME WHO WAS MOVING TO ESTONIA TO
GET MARRIED.
WE NEVER THOUGHT HE WOULD GET THERE.
NOT ONLY DID HE GET THERE, BUT I GOT MY CONDO ON THE
MARKET FOR SALE A YEAR AGO AND BACK OUT IN PUBLIC THREE
YEARS AGO, GOING THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
TRYING TO MAKE THE HOUSING SITUATION SAFER FOR MY
NEIGHBORS WHO WERE ALL BEING FORCED OUT OF THEIR
CONDOS.
I WATCHED HOW THE CONDOMINIUM, ATTORNEYS AND THE
REALTORS BULLIED US AND FORCED US OUT OF OUR HOMES.
AND THERE WASN'T A THING ANYBODY CAN TO DO STOP IT, NO
MATTER WHAT I SAID AND DID AT MEETINGS, I WAS SHUT DOWN
FROM EVERY LEVEL ILLEGALLY AND NOBODY CAME TO MY
RESCUE.
IT GOT SO BAD, I FINALLY WENT OUT UNDER THE NAME OF
BARBARA BUNNY WITH BUNNY EARS ON TO GET THE ATTENTION
OF THE MAYOR AND POLITICIANS AND PLED WITH THEM.
WE ARE LOSING OUR HOMES.
OUR CONDOMINIUMS ARE BEING LIVED IN BY PEOPLE FROM
OTHER COUNTRIES WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALLY PAYING THREE
TIMES WHAT WE CAN AFFORD AND NOBODY IS STOPPING THEM.
I AM ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE LEFT THAT OWN.
AND I'M HERE LIVING BY MYSELF, GETTING INJURED AND HURT
DAILY AND DOCUMENTATION FROM EVERY SOURCE OF LEGAL AID
TO THE REALTORS TO BROWARD LAWYERS CARE.
NOBODY HELPED ME.
I BEGGED FOR THEM TO STOP THE LIEN ON MY CONDO TO BE
RECOGNIZED AS ILLEGAL.
AND I WAS TOLD BY BROWARD LAWYERS CARE, PAY THE
SHYSTERS.
THEY ALWAYS WIN.
YOU HAVE NO RECOURSE.
I PAID THEM.
FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I PLAYED SHYSTERS.
THEY TURNED AROUND AND BILLED ME MORE MONEY AND WANTED
ME TO PAY MORE MONEY AND EXTORTED ME.
FROM THAT POINT ON, I REFUSED AND FOUR YEARS BY THIS
LITTLE NICK OF MY LIFE KNOWING AT ANY MOMENT I COULD BE
OUT OF MY HOME WITH NO PLACE TO GO AND NO FAMILY HERE
ON SOCIAL SECURITY.
WELL, I FINALLY SOLD MY CONDO, BUT TRYING TO SELL IT,
EVEN THE COMMISSIONER IN THE CITY OF MARGATE TRIED TO
LIST IT $30,000 UNDER VALUE.
IF I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING, I WOULD HAVE BEEN
CHEATED THERE TOO.
BUT I ASKED HIM TO LEAVE WHEN I KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING.
MEANWHILE I WENT TOO A CONDO CLOSING WITHOUT LEGAL AID
TO HELP ME AND I BEGGED FOR THEM TO HELP ME AND I HAVE
THEIR FOLLOW-UP LETTERS THEY SAID NOTHING I COULD DO.
I WAS ON MY OWN.
THEY DID A CLOSING WITHOUT EVEN TELLING ME WHAT THEY
WERE DOING AND TRIED TO GET ME TO SIGN AN ADDENDUM
SAYING I WAS GOING TO RENT MY CONDO BACK FOR $1200 A
MONTH BECAUSE THEY PERFORMANCE AND IT WAS SPRING BREAK
AND I HAD NOWHERE TO MOVE NOW.
THEY LEFT ME IN THE LURCH.
THE PERSON THAT BOUGHT MY CONDO IS FROM ANOTHER
COUNTRY.
DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS.
THE REALTOR, HE IS FROM ANOTHER COUNTRIES.
HE WORKS OUT OF AVENTURA.
HE DIDN'T COME TO THE CLOSING.
HE WAS ON THE PHONE SAYING SIGN THIS.
THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD SIGN.
EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO SIGN.
IT WAS SAYING IF I MOVE FROM MY CONDO AND SELL IT AT
THIS PRICE TODAY, NOT ONLY AM I GOING TO BE A RENTER, I
DON'T HAVE ANY LEGAL RIGHTS BUT I HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT
CONDO AND ALL REPAIRS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT AS AN OWN
WE ARE NO PRIVILEGE.
10:13:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:13:21 >> THEY SCAMMED ME.
10:13:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
10:13:23 >> NOW IN TAMPA --
10:13:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO MA'AM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:13:28 >> I AM SORRY, I DIDN'T GET TO THE TAMPA STORY.
I WAS ASKED TO SIGN A LEASE YESTERDAY SAYING I HAVE TO
GIVE THEM 60-DAY NOTICE TO MOVE OR I HAVE TO PAY $1800
THIS YEAR AND GIVING NO NOTICE, BY MAY 1 WITH -- WITH
NO NOTICE MY SOCIAL SECURITY DOESN'T EVEN COVER IT AND
IT SHOULD BE CONDEMNED, 288 SQUARE FEET WITH RODENTS,
RATS, NO DISABILITY ACCESS, MY WHEELCHAIR WON'T GO ON
THE SIDEWALK.
I FALL OUT AND THIS IS WHY I'M HERE TODAY.
CAME FROM BROWARD COUNTY TO GET A BETTER HOUSE AND THIS
IS WHERE I AM IN TAMPA HOUSING.
I AM ON A WAIT LIST AND I CAN'T GET AN APPOINTMENT TO
MEET WITH THEM.
I NEED HELP.
I DON'T WANT TO BE HOMELESS MAY 1.
10:14:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:14:12 >> I GET CONFUSED AND RATTLED WHEN I GET EXCITED.
EXCUSE ME FOR GOING ON.
YOU CAN BACK ME UP.
I AM OUT OF HERE.
I FELT LAST FRIDAY IN FRONT OF SOCIAL SECURITY.
AND I'M PRETTY INJURED.
BUT I GOT HOME.
10:14:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:14:33 >>LUIS VIERA:
I WAS GOING TO SAY -- OKAY.
YOU ARE GOING -- OKAY.
I WAS GOING TO HAVE MY OFFICE -- BUT IF MR. BENNETT.
THERE YOU GO, THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT.
10:14:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:14:53 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:14:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PLEASE STATES YOUR NAME.
10:15:01 >> IRMA PHILISTINE, AND I LIVE AT 812 WEST COLUMBUS
DRIVE.
MY ZIP CODE 33602.
I HAVE BEEN COMING HERE IN THE PAST.
WHAT HAPPENED IN 2004 OUT OF NOWHERE, RIGHT IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE STREET, IT WAS ON THE WEEKEND -- NOT
WEEKDAYS, SOMEONE -- WELL, I UNDERSTAND DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION OR THE CITY, THEY HAD ME GOING AROUND
SINCE 2007, THAT'S WHEN I BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION
THAT MY HOUSE WAS VIBRATING FROM WHATEVER TYPE OF WORK
THEY HAD DONE ON THE STREET.
MEANWHILE, THEY SEND ME ALL OVER -- I THINK BASICALLY I
KNOW BY NOW EVERYBODY IN THE CITY.
FROM MAYOR PAM -- MY APOLOGY.
TRYING TO PRONOUNS.
10:16:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IORIO.
10:16:08 >> AND FROM HER ALL THE WAY TO -- NOT THE NEW MAYOR --
THE ONE PAST.
ANYWAY, NOBODY EVER REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO THE PROBLEM
I HAVE BEEN HAVING.
IT IS THE STRUCTURE OF -- OF THE HOUSE.
BECAUSE IT VIBRATES.
IT HAS BEEN VIBRATING.
MY CHILDREN MOVED 15 YEARS AGO.
MY MOTHER WANTS TO LIVE WITH ME -- ACTUALLY I HAVE BEEN
LIVING MORE THAN 15 YEARS AT THE HOUSE BY MYSELF
BECAUSE I WAS AFRAID HAVING SOMEONE ELSE LIVING IN THE
HOUSE WITH ME.
AND ANYWAY, I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS.
I CAN'T AFFORD GOING AND GET ANOTHER PLACE.
PRICES ARE SO EXPENSIVE.
THE THING IS WHAT I NOTICE -- WELL, A LOT OF CITIES,
ESPECIALLY TAMPA, THAT'S WHERE I HAVE BEEN LIVING, THE
STRUCTURE, THE FOUNDATION, YOU KNOW ARE NOT PAYING
ATTENTION TO THAT.
THAT IS WHERE WE ARE.
THAT IS WHERE THE CARS DRIVE.
THAT IS WHERE IT IS SUSTAINED -- EVERYTHING ON THE
SURFACE.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE DOING A LITTLE LOUSY WORK OUT THERE.
AND THOSE THAT ARE -- THEY GIVE FAVOR CONTRACT TO DO
THE WORK, I AM WONDERING WHO GOES BEHIND THEM AND SEE
IF THE WORK WAS DONE PROPERLY.
AND IT IS NOT JUST ME.
FROM THE BRIDGE ALL THE WAY TO BOULEVARD, IT IS ALL
SCREWED UP.
I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN SOMETIMES I DON'T SLEEP IN MY HOUSE -- I MEAN,
INSIDE OF MY HOUSE BECAUSE SEEMS LIKE SOME -- FROM THE
BEGINNING -- IT IS A LONG STORY.
ANYWAY, I WANT SOMEBODY TO TELL ME WHAT I MUST DO
BECAUSE THAT IS MY INTENTION TO REMAIN WHERE I AM.
I DON'T HAVE THE KIND OF MONEY TO MOVE ON.
AND PLAN TO GO FROM THE CITY TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION.
10:18:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:18:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I REMEMBER YOU TALKED TO ME LAST WEEK
ABOUT THAT.
WE SENT THAT OVER TO THE COUNTY, BECAUSE OUR CITY FOLKS
SAID THAT THE COUNTY WORKED ON THAT ROAD OUT THERE.
10:18:16 >> NO, NOT A PROBLEM WITH THE COUNTY.
A PROBLEM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE IT IS UNDERNEATH
WHERE THE WATER AND ALL THE SEWER AND ALL THE THINGS.
WHO TAKES CARE OF THAT.
10:18:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
RIGHT.
BUT WHAT I AM SAYING, MAN, WHENEVER -- WHATEVER WORK
THEY DID THEY UNSETTLED THE UNDERNEATH GROUND.
IF IT IS UNSETTLED MAYBE THEY CAN GO OUT AND SEE WHAT
HAPPENED.
10:18:39 >> THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, SIR.
EXCUSE ME.
I AM JUST TIRED OF THE THIS AND THAT AND BLAMING OTHER
PERSON.
NOBODY HAS TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY.
10:18:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
AND I AGREE.
THAT IS WHY WHEN MY OFFICE FOUND OUT WHO DID THE WORK
OUT THERE, WE SENT IT OVER HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
BECAUSE THEY DID THE WORK.
SO THEY ARE THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY TO GO OUT AND SEE
WHAT IS DONE.
10:19:05 >> LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING WITHOUT CUTTING YOU OFF, I
APOLOGIZE.
I WENT TO THE COUNTY, WHAT THE COUNTY DID, I SPOKE TO
SEVERAL PEOPLE.
AND I HAVE PICTURES FROM WAY BACK.
THEY DELETE THE PICTURES.
THEY DELETE -- SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING TO IT.
10:19:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I AM GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY
AGAIN MISS MYERS' OFFICE AND HOPEFULLY TO GET SOME KIND
OF RESOLUTION FOR YOU.
10:19:24 >> THERE HAS TO BE.
BECAUSE I AM NOT MOVING.
I CAN'T AFFORD THE HOUSES OUT THERE.
10:19:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I UNDERSTAND.
10:19:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:19:38 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I WILL BE BACK TOO.
10:19:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:19:46 >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO KNOW, YOU CAN'T STOP
CAPITALISM.
SO RENT INCREASES, RENT DECREASES, INFLATION.
YOU CAN'T STOP CAPITALISM.
PUTIN RIGHT NOW IN UKRAINE TRYING TO STOP CAPITALISM.
AND PEOPLE SCREAMING INFLATION AND HIGH PRICES, THEY
ARE SCREAMING THEY ARE AGAINST RUSSIA IN A CERTAIN WAY.
SO ONLY SOCIALISM CAN STOP CAPITALISM.
THE BIG PICTURE.
THE GENTLEMAN HERE NAMED IT BEST.
PEOPLE ARE PIMPING SITUATION AND PIMPING BLACK PEOPLE.
PRISONER RIGHTS, RESTORATION, RENT INCREASES, WHAT THEY
ARE DOING FOR AFRICAN AND WHAT NOT, A PIMP GAME.
NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
WE AFRICAN PEOPLE ON THIS SOIL BEEN 400 YEARS
OPPRESSED.
400 YEARS OPPRESSED AND PIMPING US.
PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY FOR DRIVER'S LICENSES.
PAID FOR BEING A RETURN CITIZEN AND ALL THE STUPIDNESS.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, 98% OF AFRICAN PEOPLE
SHOULDN'T GO IN THE FIRST PLACE, IN THE FIRST PLACE
THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN TO PRISON.
UNLESS YOU ARE TALKING OF REPARATIONS, YOU ARE JUST
PIMPING THE SITUATION.
AND THIS CITY OWES US REPARATIONS.
SO AS A MATTER OF FACT, FROM TODAY, APRIL -- THURSDAY,
APRIL 21, 2022, MENTESNOT IS CALLING THE CITY OF TAMPA,
THIS CITY COUNCIL TO IMMEDIATELY APPOINT A COMMITTEE TO
STUDY THE EXACT AMOUNT OF REPARATIONS THAT THIS CITY OF
TAMPA OWE AFRICAN PEOPLE BASED ON THE CITY BUDGET SINCE
1885.
OR SINCE THE CITY OF TAMPA WAS FORMED TO THE CURRENT
DATE OF THURSDAY, APRIL 21, 2022.
STOP PLAYING GAMES WITH AFRICAN PEOPLE.
THE SAME WAY THE MAYOR CAN PUT A PROGRAM INTO PLACE TO
INVESTIGATE THE ACTIONS OR PERSONAL BEHAVIOR PATTERNS
OF ORLANDO GUDES IS THE SAME WAY WE AFRICAN PEOPLE IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA AND MAYOR AND THIS CITY COUNCIL TO
IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM TO LOOK AT THE REPARATION SO WE AS
AFRICAN-AMERICANS KNOW HOW MUCH THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR
DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES SINCE 1885.
USING THE DIVERSIONARY TACTICS OF INVESTIGATING BLACK
POLITICIAN, GIVING PETTY COOKING CONTRACTS TO BLACK
ENTREPRENEURS, APPOINTING TOKEN, TOKEN HEAD NEGROS TO
MANY DISPOSITIONS AND TRYING TO CARRY OUT BUSINESS AS
USUAL BY DENYING BLACK PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHAT
IS RIGHTFULLY OURS IS DONE AND OVER WITH.
WE ARE 26% OF TO THIS POPULATION AND WE WANT 26% OF
THIS CITY BUDGET.
PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
I DON'T CARE IF WE SPEND IT ON BEER.
WE WANT 26% OF THIS CITY BUDGET.
AND ALL THIS DIVERSIONARY TACTICS ABOUT WHATSOEVER IT
IS.
BLACK PEOPLE, WE HAVE BEEN GETTING OUTS OF KICKED OUT
OF HOMES AND MOVED AROUND FOR 100 AND SOME YEARS IN
THIS CITY.
SO ALL THAT HAVE TO STOP.
10:22:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:22:56 >> CAPTAIN FRANK WILLIAMS.
LOCATED 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
I HAVE BEEN COME DOWN FOR MANY YEARS AND NEVER GET ANY
RESULTS.
I GUESS BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT THE COLOR OF MY SKIN AND
THEY SAY, WELL, THAT IS A BLACK MAN.
REGARDLESS, I DON'T COME TO REPRESENT BLACK AND WHITE.
I COME HERE TO REPRESENT JESUS CHRIST.
I AM GOING TO READ SCRIPTURE WHAT GOD GAVE TO ME, IF I
SHOWED UP AT HEAVEN THAT THERE IS NO RAIN THAT IS
COMING FROM 2 CORINTHIAN 7:13-14.
AND THERE WILL BE NO RAIN.
IF I COMMAND THE LOCALS TO DIVIDE THE LAND.
OR IF I SENT PESTILENCE TO DESTROY THE LAND.
AND IF MY PEOPLE, WHICH ARE CALLED BY MY NAME SHALL
HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND PRAY AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED
WAY THEN CAN I HEAR FROM HEAVEN AND I HEAR THE LAND.
AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU MIGHT BE CITY COUNCIL,
BUT WHO IS IN CONTROL OF THAT LAND, IS GOD ALMIGHTY.
I KNOW Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT.
YOU THINK YOU ARE IN CONTROL.
I HAVE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND WHEN I FIRST STARTED COMING OUT HERE, YOU AIN'T HAD
NOTHING BUT WHITE FOLKS ON THE PLATFORM.
BUT NOW OFF BLACK MAN UP THERE AND THEY ARE TRYING TO
GET RID OF HIM.
BUT WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, I DON'T COME HERE TO
REPRESENT BLACK FOLK.
I COME TO REPRESENT JESUS CHRIST.
WHO LOVE OUR LIFE AND BLESS ME ALL OF THESE MANY YEARS.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE A CHURCH ON 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
THE WHITE FOLKS WANT THE LAND.
THEY DON'T WANT THE CHURCH TO BE THERE.
BUT I AM STILL THERE AND I SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO STAY
THERE DURING THE TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN THERE.
BUT THEY DON'T CARE.
THEY WANT TO GIVE PENNIES FOR MY PROPERTY AND OVERLOOK
ME.
I GOT A PARKING LOT IN THE BACK THERE.
THEY DONE FENCE ALL OF THAT IN.
CALMED AND INVITED THEM DOWN THERE.
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO?
THEY TOLD ME I AM STANDING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
THAT CHURCH WAS BUILT IN 1998.
AND BUILT IN 1924.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAD TO -- IN TAMPA, THEY TOOK THE
PLAQUE WITH THEM ONCE THEY GOT OUT OF THERE.
BUT I GOT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO DO
GOD'S BUSINESS.
AND WE WANT YOU TO RESPECT MANKIND.
DON'T JUST LOOK AT THE COLOR OF PEOPLE'S SKIN OR WE ARE
GOING TO DO THIS BECAUSE SOUTH FLORIDA JUST LEFT OUT OF
HERE OPINION DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN FOR THEM.
BUT YOU AIN'T GOING TO DO NOTHING FOR ME AND MY CHURCH.
AND NOW I AM IN TROUBLE BECAUSE I WANT YOU ALL -- TO
COME TO PROTECT THAT YOU WILL ACKNOWLEDGE MY CHURCH.
IF Y'ALL WANT ME OUT OF 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET, PAY ME
SOME FUNDS.
I WILL BE GLAD TO GET OUT OF THERE.
BECAUSE OF THE WAY YOU ARE TREATING ME.
MISTREATING NOT ONLY ME BUT MY PEOPLE.
AND I DON'T LIKE IT.
GOD DOESN'T LIKE IT EITHER.
10:26:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:10 >> WE GOT TO TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
AND WHAT THEY CALL GAY RIGHTS, HOMOSEXUAL RIGHTS,
PROSTITUTION RIGHTS.
Y'ALL NEED TO GIVE ME MY RIGHTS.
AND THAT -- AND -- GIVE ME SOME RIGHTS.
10:26:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:26:26 >> I TRY TO DO EVERYTHING THAT IS RIGHT BEFORE THE
PEOPLE AND TRY TO RESPECT GOD WITH EVERYTHING THAT I
GOT IN ME.
10:26:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:37 >> I WANT Y'ALL -- WANT SOMEBODY TO COME DOWN TO 1112
EAST SCOTT STREET AND SEE WHERE THEY FENCED ME IN.
I CAN'T EVEN GET TO THE BACK OF MY CHURCH.
THAT IS RIDICULOUS.
AND THEY ARE NOT -- MAKES NO SENSE.
NONE MUCH YOU ALL.
10:26:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO COME DOWN THERE.
10:26:53 >> WHY DON'T YOU COME DOWN THERE.
LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU CAN COME DOWN THERE.
AND I WANT YOU TO COME DOWN THERE.
AND I WILL SHOW YOU THE INJUSTICE THAT GOES ON AROUND
MY CHURCH.
10:27:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LISA, IF YOU ARE WATCHING, CAN YOU
SPEAK WITH THE GENTLEMAN AND GET HIS CONTACT
INFORMATION.
I KNOW WHERE THE CHURCH IS AT.
10:27:11 >> WHO I DO NEED TO SPEAK TO?
10:27:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM SORRY.
10:27:16 >> WHO I DO NEED TO SPEAK TO?
10:27:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MY AIDE WILL COME OUT AND GET YOUR
PHONE NUMBER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HERE SHE IS.
YES, MA'AM.
10:27:27 >> YES, GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
I USED TO KNOW SCRIPTURE POINTS, BUT MY GRANDMOTHER
ALWAYS SAID THAT A PERSON'S NAME AT DEATH IS BETTER
THAN AT BIRTH.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE HONORING SISTER DEBBY THIS
MORNING.
EVEN IN SOME OF MY WORST DAYS HERE, SHE WOULD SAY IT
WOULD GET BETTER.
MY DEEPEST CONDOLENCE TO HER AND HER FAMILY.
SO WHAT WE ARE HEARING THIS MORNING IS, OF COURSE, THE
ISSUES OF THE PEOPLE ALWAYS, WHETHER IT IS BAN THE BOX.
MAKING SURE PEOPLE GET JUSTICE ON THE BACK END AND
RESTORING OF RIGHTS.
GIVING BOTH OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD, RENT
STABILIZATION.
THE PEOPLE ARE CALLING ON YOU TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE, TO DO
SOME THINGS THAT IS OUT OF THE ORDINARY.
THAT EVEN IF WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL, A CITY GOVERNMENT
THAT IS USED TO WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS.
YOU YOURSELVES AS FAMILY PEOPLE MEETING YOUR
CONSTITUENTS IN THE GROCERY STORE, YOU HEAR IT ALL THE
TIME.
LET US TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT HERE IN THIS CITY.
I KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES OF ACCESSORY DWELLING
UNITS.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN TRY.
MAYBE YOU DON'T LIKE THAT STRUCTURE OF A CONTAINER,
LET'S TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I BELIEVE THAT TAMPA CAN BE THE MODEL.
I AM HOPING THAT WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS AGENDA
TODAY, THAT WE JUST DON'T SIGN OFF WITH PEOPLE THAT --
THAT THEY -- THAT WILL BE ABLE TO PRODUCE A RESULT THAT
WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN IN THE PAST.
VERY BLUNTLY, SOME APPRENTICE PROGRAM HAVE NOT WORKED.
THEY HAVE NOT WORKED.
THEY LOOK GOOD ON PAPER.
THEIR NUMBERS MIGHT ADD UP, BUT WHEN WE ARE IN OUR
COMMUNITY ASKING WHY PEOPLE ARE NOT EMPLOYED, IT IS
BECAUSE IT DON'T HAVE FULL VISION.
SO I HOPE YOU STAY LASER FOCUSED WHETHER THE ROME YARD,
HANNA STREET PROJECT, THE WATER.
ALL OF IT.
MAKE SURE THAT OUR PARTNERS ARE DOING THE RIGHT BY THE
PEOPLE.
AND IF THEY ARE DOING RIGHT BY THE PEOPLE, WE WILL BE
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
10:29:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
MR. RALPH -- NO?
YES, SIR.
10:29:50 >> GOOD MORNING.
PETER RALPH.
401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
IT IS VERY FITTING AFTER A LOT OF THIS PUBLIC COMMENT
OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS THAT TODAY AT 1:30,
YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO APPROVE THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
AS OTHERS HAVE SAID THIS MORNING, THE PROJECT ISN'T
JUST ABOUT HOUSING, IT IS ABOUT A HOLISTIC COMMUNITY
AND CREATING SERVICES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL
BUSINESSES TO CREATE A TRUE LIVE-WORK-PLAY ENVIRONMENT
THAT IS NOT ONLY WITHIN OUR URBAN CORE OR OUR BROGUE
URBAN CORE BUT CONNECTED TO THE RIVERWALK AND OTHER
BIKE AND WALK CONNECTIONS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAYBE NOT
EVEN NEED TO HAVE A CAR AND USE OTHER SERVICES TO GET
TO AND FROM WHERE THEY NEED AND TO WALK WITHIN THEIR
COMMUNITY TO GET FOOD.
TO GET A MEAL.
TO HAVE A PLACE OF BUSINESS, ETC.
ONE THING YOU SHOULD ALSO NOTE, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT
TEAM OF RELATED URBAN AND TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY ALONG
WITH THE CDC OF TAMPA BAY -- OF TAMPA.
AND THE WEST TAMPA CDC HAVE COMMITTED TO BUILDING TO
THE MOST ROBUST, GREEN BUILDING STANDARDS.
THE USGBC'S LEAD SILVER STANDARD FOR ALL OF THEIR
BUILDINGS AND ALSO COMMITTED TO LOOK AT THE SITE DESIGN
TO COMMIT THESE WITH HEALTHY DESIGN PRINCIPLES, SIMILAR
TO THE PRINCIPLES AT WATER STREET.
THE WELL BUILDING STANDARDS.
THE WELL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
AND LEAD FOR NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT AND ETC.
THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITIES HERE TODAY TO
APPROVE AT 1:30.
954 AFFORDABLE AND MIXED INCOME UNITS AND I ENCOURAGE
YOU ALL TO PLEASE SUPPORT IT.
AND ALSO KNOW THEY ARE DOING GREAT WORK ON THE WEST
RIVER.
AND PETER AND ALBERT AND THEIR TEAM AS WELL AS THE
HOUSING AUTHORITY ARE GREAT PARTNERS.
THEY HAVE OPEN EARS AND THEY ARE GOOD, TRUE PARTNERS TO
OUR COMMUNITY AND I HOPE YOU SUPPORT WHAT THEY ARE
DOING TODAY.
10:31:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HOW MANY DID YOU SAY IN AFFORDABLE
UNITS?
10:31:54 >> 80% OF THE 954, I THINK, IS THAT RIGHT?
YEAH.
10:31:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
OKAY, THERE IS DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
10:32:02 >>BILL CARLSON:
SOME OF THEM ARE LIKE 140% AMI.
SO NOT ACTUALLY --
10:32:07 >> I AM SURE THIS AFTERNOON THEY WILL BE HAPPY TO GET
INTO THE DETAILS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:32:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT SPEAKER.
10:32:16 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO ADDRESS YOU.
10:32:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOUR NAME.
10:32:23 >> AMAN BRADFORD.
I AM MARINE CORPS VETERAN.
STUDENT AT USF.
I -- I DIDN'T HAVE -- I HEARD ABOUT THIS MEETING ABOUT
THE RUNAWAY RENT CRISIS.
IT FEELS LIKE FOR ME, I HAD A LOT OF DIFFICULTY USING
MY VA HOME LOAN, BECAUSE I AM COMPETING AGAINST A LOT
OF PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST PUTTING DOWN -- MONEY DOWN.
AND IT LEAVES ME WITHOUT AN OPTION TO REALLY -- TO GET
A DECENT HOME FOR MYSELF AND MY FAMILY.
NOW I HAVE A FRIEND.
SHE IS ALSO A FORMER MARINE.
SHE IS A SINGLE MOTHER.
AND SHE IS ACTUALLY DEALING WITH A MONTH-TO-MONTH
BASIS.
AND THEY ARE INCREASING HER MONTHLY RATE $200.
EACH MONTH.
SO THEY ARE BASICALLY TRYING TO FORCE HER OUT.
AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IS RIGHT,
ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY -- THERE ARE A LOT OF
NEW MONEY COMING INTO THE STATE, IN MY OPINION.
AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF
THAT.
AND I AM AFRAID THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF
HOMELESS PEOPLE.
AND I JUST -- I REALLY HOPE THAT THERE IS SOMETHING
THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO WITH THIS RENT REGULATION OR
SOMETHING TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM -- FROM HAVING TO GO
THROUGH THAT.
THAT IS IT.
10:34:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
NEXT SPEAKER.
YES, SIR.
10:34:08 >> GOOD MORNING.
JULIUS DAVIS, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF VOLT AIR.
I WANT TO SUPPORT THE ROME YARD.
URBAN IS COMMITTED TO MINORITY FIRMS SUCH AS MINE.
WE ARE THE DESIGN SIDE OF THE PROJECT.
IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US AMONGST OTHER MINORITY
FIRMS.
THEY HAVE REALLY COMMITTED IN THE PAST.
AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, REALLY ARE COMMITTING NOW.
I AM A NATIVE FOURTH-GENERATION NATIVE OF TAMPA.
IT IS GREAT TO SEE TAMPA EXPAND THE WAY IT IS EXPANDING
AND IT FEELS GREAT TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING TO HELP
TAMPA GROW AND TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THOSE THAT ARE
CHALLENGING LIVING IN THE GROWING CITY THE WAY IT IS
NOW WITH THE RATES.
BUT I DO WANT TO VOICE MY OPINIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, MY
COMPANY, AMONGST MANY WOMEN AND MINORITY-OWNED FIRM ARE
PART OF THIS ESTABLISHMENT.
IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HELP US GROW.
TO HIRE LOCAL TALENT, AS WELL AS INTERNSHIPS FOR USF
AND HCC.
SO THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT.
THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.
10:35:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
NEXT SPEAKER.
YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:35:40 >> GOOD MORNING, ERNIE DUBOIS, CEO OF DUCON LCC AND DUCON
PLUMBING LCC.
BOTH TAMPA MINORITY CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AND PLUMBING
COMPANY.
I'M HERE TO VOICE MY SUPPORT WITH SOMEONE WHO IS BORN
IN TAMPA.
I HAVE NOT LIVED IN TAMPA MOST OF MY LIFE BUT BORN
HERE.
PARENTS OF UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND USF TO SEE WHAT ROME
YARD, THE OPPORTUNITIES OF THIS PROJECT OFFERS TO SEE
WHAT THE TEAM THAT RELAYED IT HAS BROUGHT TOGETHER.
MY FIRM, WE TRAVEL ACROSS THE STATE, PARTNERING WITH
LARGER CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FIRMS.
WE TRAVEL ACROSS THE STATE.
PARTICIPATING IN SUCH PROJECTS.
THE ROME YARD TEAM THAT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER IS
UNPRECEDENTED.
YOU CAN GO TO THE AIRPORT AND LOOK WHO IS WORKING OUT
THERE.
GO TO PREVIOUS CITY PROJECTS, COUNTY PROJECTS, OTHER
MUNICIPALITIES.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE ACCUMULATED,
PARTICULARLY TAMPA-BASED BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES FOR
THIS PROJECT BASED ON THE LOCATION, THERE IS NO PROJECT
THAT HAS DONE SUCH IN THE RECENT HISTORY AT LEAST.
AND I DOUBT IN ANY HISTORIES AS FAR AS THE BLACK
BUSINESS INVOLVEMENT, PARTICULARLY FOR COMMUNITY THAT
IT IS IN.
THE PARTNERS THAT ARE ASSEMBLED NOT ONLY HAVE A PLAN,
BUT WE HAVE PROVEN HISTORY OF EXECUTING INCLUSION FOR
LOCAL, WOMEN-OWNED AND MINORITY-OWNED BUSINESSES NOT
ONLY IN THIS AREA REGION, BUT ACROSS THE STATE.
SO I'M HERE TO SPEAK OBVIOUSLY IN SUPPORT OF -- IN
SUPPORT OF THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
I'M HERE TO PUT MY NAME AND MY BUSINESS ON THE LINE FOR
THE COMMITMENT OF 40% LOCAL -- LOCAL AND
MINORITY-OWNED.
25% BLACK-OWNED BUSINESS CONTRACT AND COMMITMENT.
I AM THAT CONFIDENT NOTICE PLAN THAT WE HAVE.
THAT CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE THE BEST PLAN.
AND I AM THAT CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE THE PEOPLE AT THE
TABLE, THE RELATED RESOURCES, THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES,
THE HUMAN CAPITAL TO EXECUTE THE PLAN THAT WAS
SUBMITTED AND COMMITTED TO.
I AM A PROUD MEMBER OF THE TEAM.
I COULD GO INTO SPEAKING THE OPPORTUNITY IT PROVIDES
FOR MY BUSINESS, THE SELFISH INTENT BECAUSE NO OTHER
DEVELOPER HAS GIVEN US -- TO DATE, HAS GIVEN US THE
OPPORTUNITY.
USUALLY WE HAVE TO COME IN UNDER A LARGER MAJORITY
COMPANY, WHETHER IT IS A SUB OR COMMAND -- OR OTHER
FIRMS WE PARTNER WITH.
RELATED CAME TO US AND GAVE US A DIRECT OPPORTUNITY AS
A BLACK-OWNED LOCAL BUSINESS TO BE A PRIME GENERAL
CONTRACTOR ON A MULTI, MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.
I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD HAVE DONE THAT IN
THIS REGION OR PROBABLY AROUND THE STATE.
SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
THANK YOU.
10:38:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
[APPLAUSE]
JOE ROBINSON.
10:38:44 >> JOE ROBINSON, RESIDENT OF WEST TAMPA SINCE 1962.
DURING SEGREGATION.
VICE-CHAIR OF THE WEST TAMPA CAC, VICE-CHAIR OF THE
WEST TAMPA CDC, SECOND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE NAACP,
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHAIR OF THE NAACP.
THE WEST TAMPA CRA-CAC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN INCORN RATED
IN A REVISED REVISION OF THESE TWO AGREEMENTS TODAY.
HISTORY IS BEING MADE, MR. GUDES.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN TALKING OF A COMMUNITY BENEFIT
AGREEMENT.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU AND ME FIGHTING FOR IT, MAN.
IT IS AT THE TABLE.
IT IS HERE.
MINORITY CONTRACTS ARE BEING UTILIZED.
IT IS HEAR.
WE HAVE BEEN -- IT IS HERE.
60 YEARS TO GET THIS DEVELOPMENT DRIVEN BY THE
COMMUNITY, SPOKEN BY THE COMMUNITY, THE WEST SIDE OF
THE RIVER IS SPEAKING.
WE WANT THIS.
WE NEED THIS.
IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF YOU VOTE ON IT.
YOU CAN DEBATE IT, BUT IT IS HERE.
ONE OTHER THING, SIDEBAR ACTION.
FIRST OF ALL, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE PERMIT FOR
SPECIAL EVENTS ON MAIN STREET COMING UP.
ITEM 14.
AND WE NEED TO HAVE THIS APPOINTMENT FOR THIS MINORITY
BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT COMPLIANCE OFFICER.
MISS BONNIE EHLER, ITEM 18.
BACK TO ROME YARD.
LISTEN, MAN, I TOOK -- JUST LIKE YOU CARLSON, JUST LIKE
YOU GUDES WITH THE TAMPA BAY TIMES, SAYING I GOT
KICKBACKS WHICH IS NONSENSE!
IT IS CALLED TORTIOUS INTERFERENCE WITH THE CONTRACT.
KEEP MESSING WITH IT, TIMES.
I'M HERE TO SAY THIS, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, WEST
TAMPA IS MOVING FORWARD.
PLEASE DON'T STOP US.
DON'T PUT ROAD BLOCKS IN THE WAY.
WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY.
I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
IT IS FINALLY IN FRONTS OF YOU.
FINALLY FOR YOU TO SEE.
I HAVE GIVEN ALL OF MY LIFE AND TIME ON THIS.
TOOK THE HEAT FROM EVERYBODY INCLUDING NAACP, THE
PLAYER HATESERS AND EVERYBODY.
BUT I'M HERE TODAY TO SAY THAT I AM STANDING UP FOR
WHAT IS RIGHT.
I AM SPEAKING OUT FOR WHAT OUR COMMUNITY, MY COMMUNITY,
WHERE I HAVE BEEN ALL MY LIFE THE SCALIONE HOUSE.
CHARLIE, YOU KNOW HOW IT IS IN WEST TAMPA.
DON'T BE LAUGHING.
10:41:02 >> I AM NOT LAUGHING, I AM ENJOYING.
10:41:05 >> MY LAST 30 SECONDS, I ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT THIS.
CULTURAL ARTS CENTER.
WORK FORCE CENTER.
GIVING THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE WANT.
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, MAN.
I SPENT A LOT OF MY TIME, FREE, F-R-E-E, FREE,
PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, FREE.
WITH THAT I WILL SAY, Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME.
AND I HAVE A MEETING AT 1:30 AND I WILL BE HERE UNLESS
THEY CANCEL IT AND GO OUT AND SMOKE THIS -- CHARLIE, A CUBAN
CIGAR.
MY DAUGHTER BROUGHT IT BACK FROM NASSAU, BAHAMAS, REAL
CUBAN, ROMEO AND JULIET, NUMBER TWO, BROTHER.
THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
GIVE US A CHANCE AND GIVE US FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION
FOR THE TWO RESOLUTIONS FOR THE AGREEMENT AND COMMUNITY
BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
NEVER BEEN ONE -- ST. PETE AIN'T GOT ONE, MR. GUDES.
MAKE HISTORY.
[APPLAUSE]
10:42:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
WHO WANTS TO FOLLOW JOE ROBINSON.
[LAUGHTER]
ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE?
IF NOT, GO TO THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS.
WE HAVE A FEW ONLINE.
SEEING NONE.
FIRST SPEAKER IS MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:42:19 >>CLERK:
GOOD MORNING, MICHAEL, IF YOU WERE ON THE
LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:42:25 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:42:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
10:42:30 >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
I AM SO HAPPY THAT WE ARE HERE TO THIS PARTICULAR
POINT.
I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TELL YOU HOW WE GOT HERE
AND WHY WE GOT HERE.
FIRST, WITH NO MONEY, THE WEST TAMPA CDC HAS PUT
TOGETHER THAT NOT ONLY INCLUDES FOLKS GETTING BUSINESS
-- TO START THEIR OWN BUSINESSES BUT ALSO WE ARE GOING
TO TURN THIS INTO A $80 MILLION IMPACT IN WEST TAMPA.
JUST FROM THE WEST TAMPA SIDE OF THE TABLE.
WHY DO WE DO THIS?
WE DO THIS BECAUSE IN THE POOR COMMUNITY, SO MANY TIMES
THEY ARE OVERLOOKED.
THEY SEE BUILDINGS COMING UP THAT THEY KNOW WILL BE OUT
OF HERE.
MOTHERS I HAVE SPOKEN TO ARE SO AFRAID.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE JOBS.
AND THEY ARE SO AFRAID.
TO THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY.
LET ME TALK OF THE GOOD THING OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
ROME YARD PROJECT.
WEST TAMPA CAC -- GENTRIFICATION.
INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY.
INCREASE GENERATIONAL WEALTH BY BUILDING A BLACK WALL
STREET IN AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE
ACTUALLY OWN BUSINESSES AND CREATES JOBS AND TO THE
CITY AND INCREASE SALES TAXES.
120 NEW RESIDENT JOBS WILL BE CREATED.
120 NEW JOBS WILL BE CREATED.
WITH AN IMPACT OF OVER $8 MILLION IN TERMS OF THE
PROJECT THAT WE BRING TO THE TABLE.
WE PLAN TO ADJUST THE LOW-INCOME, THOSE WITH CRIMINAL
RECORDS, THOSE WHO HAVE RISK, SENIORS AND THOSE WITH NO
SUPPLEMENTAL INCOME.
IT IS TIME FOR WEST TAMPA.
SO MANY TIMES WE SEE DEVELOPMENT CONNELL AND WE GET
GENTRIFIED.
THIS TIME.
I WANT TO THANK THE RESIDENTS OF WEST TAMPA.
TO BE ON THE STREETS OF WEST TAMPA, TODAY WE WIN.
YOU WANT A JOB.
AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY YOUR RENT.
WITH THIS BILL RIGHT HERE, THIS TIME WE WIN.
I AM SORRY I AM SO PASSIONATE ABOUT IT LIKE JOE
ROBINSON.
WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR SO LONG.
THIS TIME IS THE TIME FOR WEST TAMPA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:44:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
JEAN STROHMEYER.
10:45:02 >>CLERK:
JEAN, IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE UNMUTE YOURSELF
AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:45:05 >> CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME?
10:45:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
10:45:10 >> BEFORE I START, CAN I ASK A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.
ON THE BEGINNING YOU MOVE ALL THESE ITEMS FROM HERE TO
THERE.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO SOME OF US -- I HAVE BEEN LISTENING
TO IT FOR YEARS BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU DECIDE TO MOVE
IT FROM ONE PLACE -- CONSENT AND STAFF --
10:45:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE REASON WE DO THAT IS BECAUSE
CONSENT AGENDA GOES SO QUICKLY.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE MOVE ITEM 10-20.
AND MANY TIMES THERE IS NOT DISCUSSION.
SO SPECIFIC HAD COUNCILMEMBERS OR ANYBODY CAN ASK THAT
ITEMS BE PULLED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION INSTEAD OF A
QUICK VOTE.
SO THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED GET PUT UNDER STAFF
REPORTS SO WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND GO INTO FURTHER
DETAIL BEFORE SAYING YES OR NO.
10:45:47 >> OKAY.
I DID HEAR COUNCILMAN -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON MENTION WHY
CERTAIN THINGS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SUCH A
PUBLIC INTEREST IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TO BEGIN WITH.
I DID LISTEN TO THAT.
I DON'T FEEL THE ANSWER IS SUFFICIENT BECAUSE I HAD AN
ITEM DOWN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND
I SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED THAT IT NOT EVER SHOW UP ON
CONSENTS AGENDA BUT IT DID ANYWAY.
MAYBE WE CAN FIND A WAY TO BRING THAT A LITTLE BIT
MORE, YOU KNOW IN FRONT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT TO
HAVE THINGS -- FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION AND PUBLIC
COMMENT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK UPON BEHALF OF SOME OF
THESE ITEMS THAT SHOW UP ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT
SHOULD BE THERE.
WITH THAT SAID, MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER.
I'M HERE -- THERE ARE A FEW AGENDA ITEMS THAT I AM
GOING TO TALK ABOUT.
PARTICULARLY HERE -- THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
I JUST -- AND JUST SAW IN THE TAMPA TIMES ABOUT THIS.
IT COULD BE JUST ANOTHER SCANDAL OR CORRUPTION WITHIN
OUR CITY.
I LEARNED THAT THE MAYOR'S NEPHEW WORKS WITH THE
DEVELOPER.
FIRST LADY WORKS FOR LOBBYING FIRM AND THE MAYOR SAID
THAT THE NUMBER WITH THE LOBBYIST WOULD NOT POSE ANY
CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN THE RELATIONSHIP, BUT IN
READING THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING.
YOU KNOW, THIS STARTED WITH EX-MAYOR BUCKHORN.
FROM WHAT I READ IN THE PAPER, HE CONVENIENTLY DROPPED
THE PROJECT JUST BEFORE IT WAS PICKED UP BY THE MAYOR.
IS THIS ANOTHER CASTOR-MAYOR BUCKHORN SCANDAL.
TOILET TO TAP.
SAME SCANDAL, DIFFERENT NAME.
THAT THIS PARCEL WAS LONG NEGLECED, AND MY POINT IS WE DON'T
NEED EVERY INCH UNUSED SPACE TRANSFORMED FOR FUTURE
GENERATIONS.
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT IS WHAT IS ALLOWING.
THE CITY SHOULD GROW NATURALLY AND NOT SUSTAINED BY
CORRUPTION, POWER.
NOBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE PEOPLE'S HOMES.
OUR CITY OF TAMPA AND DESTROY ITS VERY CHARACTER.
BUT SOME OF YOU CAN'T SEE AS BETTER YET REFUSE TO SEE
IT.
YOU DON'T VOTE ON THIS AND BE CORRUPT CONTRACTS AND
SUCH WILL BE KNOWN FOREVER AS THE ONES THAT DESTROYED.
LUKE 8:17 -- SPEAKING OF THE BIBLE, THERE IS NOTHING IN
SECRET THAT SHALL NOT BE MADE MANIFEST.
NEITHER ANYTHING THAT SHOULD NOT BE KNOWN AND BECOME
ABROAD.
ALL WILL BE CLEAR TO THEM.
THE NIGHT THICKENS OVER ISRAEL ON ACCOUNT OF ITS
UNBELIEF.
THE DISCIPLE ALSO ADVANCE EVEN INTO FURTHER LIGHT.
UNTIL THERE IS NOTHING LEFT IN PLAN OF GOD WHICH IS
OBSCURE OR HIDDEN.
NOTHING WILL BE HIDDEN THAT IS SECRET, YOU GUYS.
IT IS COMING OUT.
MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR DECISIONS
AND SEARCH YOUR SOULS WHAT JESUS WOULD DO.
THERE IS MORE, BUT HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:48:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
NEXT ALBERT MYLO.
10:49:10 >>CLERK:
PETER VAN WARNER AND SIRIO LAFAR DID REGISTER
AND DID NOT LOG ON TO SPEAK.
WE WILL BE MOVING ON TO RUSS WEBB.
IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE
THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:49:21 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY.
RUSS.
THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE BAY AREA APARTMENT THAT
REPRESENT THE APARTMENT INDUSTRY OF TAMPA BAY.
I AM FILLING IN FOR OUR GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS WHO HAD A
CHANCE TO SPEAK TO YOU OF NOTICE OF RENTS INCREASE THAT
IS UP FOR FIRST READING TODAY.
THIS ORDINANCE REQUIRES A 60-DAY NOTICE FOR RENT
INCREASES AND A 30-DAY NOTICE TO TERMINATE
MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASES FROM THE RESIDENT AND THE
LORDLORD.
I WANT TO NOTE THAT THE ORDINANCE MAY CONFLICT WITH
STATE LAW THAT MAY EXCEED LOCAL JURISDICTION'S
AUTHORITY AND WE ARE WORKING WITH ATTORNEYS TO EXAMINE
THAT.
ONCE THAT IS DONE, WE WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE FIND
OUTS.
WE ARE GLAD TO SEE 60 DAYS INSTEAD OF THE SIX MONTHS.
A MUCH MORE REALISTIC PERIOD TO CONSIDER.
THE FACT IS BETWEEN THE FLUCTUATIONS IN COSTS, THE
OVERALL PACE OF INFLATION AND ITS CHANGING MARKET
CONDITIONS, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A LANDLORD TO SET A
REALISTIC PRICE IN SIX MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
FURTHER REQUIRE TO TELL US 60 DAYS FROM THE END OF
THEIR LEASE IF THEY STAY IN THEIR UNIT OR LEASE IT.
THE BEST-CASE SCENARIO 60 DAYS' NOTICE.
AND 60-DAY NOTICE IS MUCH MORE REALISTIC, BUT IT IS
UNNECESSARY BECAUSE OF REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE STATE
LAW, MOST RESIDENTS RECEIVE THEIR LEASE RENEWAL OFFERS
THAT INCLUDE A PORTION OF THE APPLICABLE RENT INCREASES
BETWEEN 45 TO 75 DAYS OF THE LEASE RETURN.
PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE NOTICE THAT THIS IS GETTING
CALLED FOR OR CLOSE TO IF.
REGARDING THE NOTICE CHANGE THE MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASE.
IT MAY HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
A RESIDENT OR LANDLORD CAN TERMINATE 15 DAYS NOTICE.
IN PRACTICE, THE RESIDENT HAS TWO WEEKS AT THE END OF
THE MONTH TO END THEIR LEASE BY THE END OF THE MONTH.
RESIDENTS THAT WANT MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASES REQUIRE
FLEXIBILITY BUT REQUIRING 30-DAY NOTICE MAKES IT
IMPOSSIBLE OF LEASE TERMINATION IN THE SAME MONTHS.
RESIDENTS WILL BE ON THE HOOK FOR AN ADDITIONAL MONTH'S
RENT BECAUSE OF THIS ORDINANCE.
WE WANT TO YOU CONSIDER A 21-DAY PERIOD TO GIVE A WEEK
ON THE RENTAL PERIOD OF THE MONTH-TO-MONTH.
WE UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT OF WHICH THIS ORDINANCE IS
BEING PROPOSED AND MANY TALK OF THE MARKETED,
AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS AND SUPPLY ISSUES.
I THINK EVERYBODY REQUEST AGREED THAT WE HAVE BEEN
THROUGH AN UNPRECEDENTED PERIOD.
WITH THAT SAID, CHANGING THE LAW AND RESPONSE TO
TEMPORARY CONDITIONS CHANGING IT FOR WHAT IS COMMON AND
KNOWN PRACTICE ACROSS THE STATE COULD CREATE A
PATCHWORK OF RULES THAT MAKE IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR
RESIDENTS TO KNOW THEIR RIGHTS AND TO MANAGE RENTAL
HOMES TO OPERATE.
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK.
10:52:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DID JULIUS DAVIS SPEAK IN PERSON?
10:52:19 >> YES.
10:52:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL TAKE HIM OFF THE LIST
THERE.
THAT CONCLUDES THE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
ALL RIGHT, ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR
RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
IF NOT, WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 4.
YES, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:52:39 >>BILL CARLSON:
IF I CAN SAY SOMETHING IN LIEU OF ALL
THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE HEARD.
WE HAD A DISCUSSION A FEW WEEKS AGO ON THIS HOUSING
CRISIS.
AND A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.
A PIECE OF FEEDBACK IS TO PROPOSE A SIX-MONTH NOTICE
PERIOD.
I THINK I MADE THE MOTION.
WE APPROVED HAVING THIS COME BEFORE US TODAY.
HOWEVER, LEGAL IN A FEW MINUTES WILL TELL US THAT BY
STATE LAW, WE CAN'T HAVE A SIX-MONTH NOTICE PERIOD.
SO I WANT THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC KNOW WE DID ATTEMPT
NOT JUST A 90-DAY NOTICE PERIOD BUT A SIX-MONTH NOTICE
PERIOD.
THE MOST WE CAN DO IS 60 DAYS AND WE HEARD FROM THE
APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
THEY MAY EVEN CHALLENGE THE MONTH-TO-MONTH PART OF IT.
BUT DEPENDING ON WHAT LEGAL SAYS, WE SHOULD STEP
FORWARD ANYWAY.
JUST FOR THE FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC WHO SPOKEN ABOUT THE
-- THE RENTAL CRISIS AND HOUSING CRISIS.
WE HAVE A WORKSHOP SET FOR MAY 26 WHERE WE ARE GOING TO
ASK PUBLIC TO COME IN WITH IDEAS.
WE HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING OUR OWN IDEAS.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC THAT HAVE SPECIALIZED
EXPERTISE IN THIS.
AND IDEAS THAT ARE PRESENTED.
MOST OF THE -- MOST OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT IS
AROUND RENT CONTROL, WHICH IS VERY SEVERELY RESTRICTED
BY STATE LAW AND HAVEN'T BEEN DONE IN 20 OR 30 YEARS.
I PERSONALLY THINK IT WILL BE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON
RENTERS BECAUSE THE LANDLORDS WILL RAISE RATE IN
ADVANCE OF THE ONE-YEAR MAXIMUM THAT WILL BE ALLOWED.
WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS TO COME WITH OTHER IDEAS.
WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING.
AND WE KNOW THE PUBLIC HAVE A LOT OF IDEA AND WE HOPE
ON MAY 26, THAT FOLKS CAN COME WITH MORE IDEAS THAT WE
CAN LISTEN TO.
AND THE OVERRIDING ISSUE AS WAS MENTIONED A SHORTAGE OF
AFFORDABLE HOMES.
WE HAVE A $50,000 UNIT SHORTAGE WE ARE TRYING AS
QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO FILL.
AND WE HAVE GOT A SHORTAGE OF UNITS IN GENERAL.
SO WE ARE WORKING ON ALL THE DIFFERENT LEVELS TO TRY TO
ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
10:54:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:54:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GENTLEMEN, I SPOKE WITH THE FOLKS IN
MIAMI -- THE LEGAL TEAM IN MIAMI WORKING ON THE
EMERGENCY CRISIS FOR HOUSING OPINION.
AND A TEAM WITH OTHER COALITIONS THAT ARE WORKING TO
LOOK AT THE STUDY.
I KNOW I ASKED OUR -- OUR FOLKS HERE WHEN THEY CAME
BACK ON THAT WORKSHOP TO LOOK AT A STUDY AS WELL AND
HOPEFULLY GET ANSWERS ABOUT THAT STUDY, MR. CARLSON.
BUT MIAMI IS WORKING ON A STUDY RIGHT NOW.
10:55:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, MA'AM.
10:55:23 >>REBECCA JOHNS:
GOOD MORNING, REBECCA JOHNS, ASSISTANT CITY
ATTORNEY.
I'M HERE WITH THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, WHICH YOU REQUESTED
AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON STATED.
HE REQUESTED A SIX-MONTH NOTICE FOR A LANDLORD TO
PROVIDE BEFORE THEY RAISED THE RENT.
FLORIDA STATUTES PROVIDES IF A LEASE REQUIRES ADVANCE
NOTICE OF NONRENEWAL OF A LEASE, THAT NOTICE PERIOD IS
LIMITED TO 60 DAYS.
SO ADVISING OF A RENTAL INCREASE IS THE EQUIVALENT OF A
NONRENEWAL OR RENEWAL TERMS.
SO, THEREFORE, THAT IS WHY I LIMITED IT TO THE 60-DAY
PERIOD.
THIS ORDINANCE WOULD ALSO REQUIRE THAT A MONTH-TO-MONTH
LEASE COULD NOT BE TERMINATED UNLESS YOU HAVE 30 DAYS'
NOTICE.
RIGHT NOW IT IS 15 DAYS.
I DID RAISE THAT TO ITS 30 DAYS IN ORDER TO GIVE THE
MAXIMUM TIME.
THAT IS UP TO YOU WHETHER YOU WANT TO AS THE SPEAKERS
HAVE SPOKE, TO REDUCE THAT TO 21 DAYS.
THAT WAS JUST ME TRYING TO TAKE IT TO THE MAX.
10:56:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:56:31 >>BILL CARLSON:
THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION SAID THEY
ARE LOOKING INTO THE LEGALITIES OF THE 30-DAY NOTICE
FOR MONTH TO MONTH OPINION DO YOU FEEL STRONGLY IT WILL
HOLD.
10:56:47 >>REBECCA JOHNS:
AN ATTORNEY GENERAL POSITION THAT A
NOTICE PERIOD PROVIDED BY THE STATE PROVIDED IT IS NOT
NO CONFLICT WITH THE OTHER PORTIONS OF THE STATE
STATUTE.
10:56:57 >>BILL CARLSON:
I AM HAPPY TO MOVE THE ORDINANCE.
10:56:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:57:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WAS GOING TO SECOND IT.
10:57:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY DISCUSSION?
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:57:07 >>LUIS VIERA:
LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS.
I THANK COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD.
I REMEMBER THE MEETING.
A HEATED MEETING THINGS WE COULD DO OR CAN'T DO AND
COUNCILMAN CARLSON CAME UP WITH THINGS REMEMBER ABLE TO
DO AND MOVE FORWARD.
I KNOW THAT ALL SEVEN OF US ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE WE
ARE DEALING WITH SUCH A LARGE CRISIS AND ISSUES LIKE
THIS, WE ARE LIMITED, RIGHT.
BUT GOOD FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD ON THESE THINGS WE CAN
DO BIT BY BIT BY BIT BY BIT TO ADDRESS THIS CRISIS AND
DO WHAT WE CAN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THANK THE COUNCILMAN FOR THIS.
AND ALL THE COUNCILMEMBERS.
AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AND A GOOD ENDEAVOR.
10:57:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I AM A RENTER.
MY WIFE IS A TEACHER.
WE SPLIT THE RENT AND WE ARE UP FOR RENEWAL IN JUNE,
WHICH IS 60 DAYS BEFORE OUR LEASE ENDS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY RENT IS GOING TO GO UP TO.
I KNOW WHAT WE PAY NOW, IT COULD GO UP $500 A MONTH,
$400 A MONTH.
I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS -- I AM NOT GOING TO NAME THEM.
THEY RENT AND ONE JUST RENEWED, SOMEONE CLOSE TO ME.
I AM NOT GOING TO NAME THEM.
SHE WAS TERRIFIED.
HER AND HER BOYFRIEND AND HE MANAGES A LIQUOR STORE AND
SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT SHE WOULD GET HIT AND LUCKILY JUST
UNDER 200.
IT WAS $200.
WHEN GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND $6 FOR A GALLON OF
MILK AND YOU GO TO GET ANYTHING.
GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND SEE.
I AM THINKING UNBELIEVABLE BECAUSE WAGES AREN'T GOING
UP.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A RENTER.
I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT MORE OPTIONS, BECAUSE WE
HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS CITY THAT ARE HURTING AND
I KNOW WE HAD THAT WORKSHOP.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT IT.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS AND PUT EVERYTHING ON
THE TABLE TO HELP THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
SO COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU WISH TO READ IT, SIR?
10:59:03 >>BILL CARLSON:
I NEED TO READ THE WHOLE THING.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER E 2022-8 CHAPTER 12,
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE
CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 12-146, 147
INCREASING NOTIFICATION PERIOD FOREMONTH-TO-MONTH AND
30 DAYS AND LANDLORDS 60 DAYS PRIOR WRITTEN OF A RENT
INCREASE, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND
OF VIOLATIONS AMENDING 19.4A AND 23 MUCH 3D.
REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT, PROVIDING
SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:59:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.
10:59:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL.
10:59:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
10:59:54 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:59:55 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:59:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:59:58 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:59:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
11:00:03 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING
ABSENT A VOTES.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION MAY 19, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
11:00:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY 67 MUCH.
COUNCILMAN.
11:00:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOVE ITEMS 5 THROUGH 10.
11:00:20 >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 5-10.
11:00:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND
IS SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11-14.
11:00:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE.
11:00:32 >>BILL CARLSON:
SECOND.
11:00:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
11:00:36 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I MAKE A STATEMENT REAL FAST.
I WANT TO SAY KUDOS TO THE PUBLIC ART PEOPLE AND
WHOEVER ELSE WAS INVOLVED WITH ITEM NUMBER 11.
IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE ARTIST'S WORK, SHE WON THE
GASPARILLA MUSIC FESTIVAL AWARD AND GOOGLE ARE YOU
HUNGRY, TAMPA.
AND HER WORK IS PHENOMENAL.
I THINK SHE WILL BE AN INTERNATIONAL CELEBRITY IN THE
NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
11:01:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WENT DOWN TO THE WATER STREET
GROCERY STORE.
AND IT WAS JUST TRULY AMAZING THE THINGS SHE HAS DONE.
11:01:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. GUDES.
11:01:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I ASKED THE JUNETEENTH -- AND I
DID SPEAK TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.
AWAITING FOR UNION CONTRACTS TO SEE IF THEY CAN MAKE
THIS COME TO FRUITION FOR JUNETEENTH AS A CITY HOLIDAY.
11:01:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
ECHOING WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.
I SAW THE RENDERINGS.
GWENDOLYN MILLER, OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE.
FIRST BLACK WOMAN ELECTED CITYWIDE AND SHE SERVED HERE
FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
WE MOVED THAT, CORRECT?
SO WE ARE GOOD THERE.
ITEMS PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
15-17.
11:02:10 >>LYNN HURTAK:
LOOKS LIKE 17 HAS A STAFF REPORT.
11:02:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WELL, COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU WANT
TO MAKE A COMMENT ON 15.
11:02:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AFTER EVERYTHING IS PASSED.
11:02:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SPEARMAN TRANSMITSED A STAFF
REPORT FOR ITEM 17.
WAS THERE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO THAT?
IT MAY JUST BE FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES BECAUSE OF
OUNT, $2.3 MILLION.
11:02:36 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEMS 15-17.
11:02:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.
11:02:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU WANTED TO TALK.
11:02:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK DENNIS ROGIRO, DEE DUNCAN AND DR.
BEN NET ON ITEM NUMBER 15 OPINION IF WE LOOK VERY
CLOSELY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, IT SAYS, A DECREASE OF
ALMOST $2.5 MILLION.
I DON'T THINK WE GET TO BRAG THAT OFTEN ABOUT THAT.
WELL-DONE TO OUR CITY STAFF FOR SAVING THE CITIZENS OF
TAMPA $2.5 MILLION.
THANK YOU.
11:03:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:03:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
18-19 AND 20.
AND HOLDING 22 AND 21.
11:03:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
20 AND 21 WILL BE AT 1:30 AS WE DISCUSSED.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
YOU ARE THE CHAIR FOR 23-29 AND 29 IS A SUBSTITUTE
RESOLUTION.
11:03:45 >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE 22-29 INCLUDING SUBSTITUTE.
11:03:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:03:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT.
WHO WOULD LIKE TO --
11:03:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE ITEMS 30-31 ALREADY MR.
CHAIRMAN, ITEM 30 FOR QUESTION CALLED HEARING JUNE 2,
2022.
AND 31 TO MAY 5 IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON THE THIRD
FLOOR THE 19TH OF MAY -- OR -- OR MAY 19.
11:04:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.
11:04:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MR. SHELBY.
11:04:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ON THE ADDENDUM AS
ITEM 31 AND HAS SUBSTITUTES.
11:04:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALL RIGHT.
11:04:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
AND SECOND FROM -- WHO WAS THE SECOND?
11:04:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I DID.
11:04:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED?
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 9:30.
11:04:42 >> SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:04:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE 9:30 A.M. AND THE 10:30.
11:04:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION.
11:04:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:04:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY, WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 32.
LET ME PULL UP MY SPEAKER LIST HERE.
ITEM 32.
I SEE MISS MALONE ON THE LINE.
HAVE YOU BEEN -- HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?
11:05:08 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE MRSHING
FOR PLAN AMENDMENTS.
I AM NOT SURE --
11:05:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SORRY, GO AHEAD.
11:05:16 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
NO PROBLEM AT ALL.
11:05:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.
11:05:26 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
TA/CPA 21-25, PORTION OF THE TAMPA
APARTMENTS AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 TO REGIONAL MIXED
USE-100.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:05:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
IF NOT.
IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS ITEM.
11:05:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALEX TYLER AND GRAHAM.
IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK.
I SEE -- OKAY, SOMEBODY FROM THE TYLER HUDSON'S OFFICE.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:06:05 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
11:06:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, GO AHEAD.
11:06:11 >> GOOD MORNING, ALEX MUELLER.
WE ARE HERE AS JENNIFER SAID TA/CPA 21-25.
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND WAS
PASSED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FIRST READING.
AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:06:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? NO?
SEEING NONE.
HEARING NONE.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC PUSHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 32.
I SEE NONE.
11:06:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE.
11:06:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.
11:06:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, READ 32.
11:06:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 32, FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 21-25,
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION, ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT AND FUTURE
LAND USE MAP FOR 1502 NUCCIO PARKWAY 920 GOMILLON
COURT AND NUCCIO PARKWAY FROM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 TO
REGIONAL MIXED USE-100.
PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL A ORDINANCES.
11:07:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.
11:07:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:07:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
11:07:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:07:26 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:07:28 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:07:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:07:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
11:07:36 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:07:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ITEM NUMBER
33.
11:07:44 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
COMMISSION.
201 TO 203 EAST CLUSTER AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL-10 TO
RESIDENTIAL-20.
YOU APPROVED IT MARCH 24, AND I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS.
11:07:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS
MALONE?
ALL RIGHT, A REPRESENTATIVE FOR 33.
ANYTHING?
11:08:04 >> I DON'T BELIEVE THE REPRESENTATIVE IS ON THE LINE
TODAY, SIR.
11:08:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY REGISTERED FOR 33.
NOBODY ON MY LIST.
ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
NUMBER 33.
11:08:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE.
11:08:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.
11:08:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU A LIKE
TO READ 33.
11:08:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 33.
FILE NUMBER TA-CPA 21-28, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE
MANAGE 2040, TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE
ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED
201 AND 203 EAST CLUSTER AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL-10,
R-10, TO RESIDENTIAL-20, R-20, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:09:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:09:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
11:09:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:09:06 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:09:08 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:09:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
11:09:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:09:13 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:09:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:09:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 34, MISS
MALONE.
11:09:24 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR PLANNING
COMMISSION, FILE NUMBER TA-CPA 21-30.
FROM.
ALEX SCHALER -- ALEX AND TYLER HUDSON BUT AVAILABLE FOR
ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
11:09:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS.
NO QUESTIONS?
YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD, ALEX.
11:09:48 >> ALEX SCHALER HERE REPRESENTING THE FILE NUMBER
TA-CPA 21-30.
APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND APPROVED AT FIRST
READING AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU
HAVE ANY.
11:09:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
SEEING OR HEARING NONE.
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO PEAK.
11:10:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:10:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:10:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU MIND READING 34.
11:10:15 >>LYNN HURTAK:
ABSOLUTELY.
FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 21-30.
ORDER FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
ENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
FUTURE LAND USE AMOUNT AND FUTURE LAND USE AS A MATTER
OF FACT.
11:10:38 >> TO PROPERTY 2015 TO 2017 MAPLE AVENUE AND 2020 OAK
AVENUE.
TRANSACTION USE 24, TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:10:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FOR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
SECOND.
ROLL CALL.
11:10:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
11:10:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:10:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
11:10:58 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:10:59 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:11:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:11:03 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:11:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT UP QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS
35-40.
IF YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK ON 35-40.
PLEASE STAND IF YOU ARE HERE AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN
IF YOU WERE SPEAKING 35-40.
[SWEARING IN]
11:11:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 35, ZAIN
HUSSEIN.
11:11:32 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ZAIN HUSSEIN,
LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
CASE REZ-21-115 BEING HEARD FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION AT 1503 NORTH NEBRASKA.
1218, 1302, 1304, 1306, 1308, 1310, 1312, AND 1314 EAS
KAY STREET AND 801, 03, 05, 07, 09 AND 11 EAST OAK
AVENUE.
TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
ATTACHED AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
TWO DAYS AGO.
HERE WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
11:12:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ZAIN
HUSSEIN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE FOR 35?
YES, SIR.
11:12:33 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MARK BENTLEY, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET 33602.
YOU REPRESENT THE APPLICANT AND HERE TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A.
11:12:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BENTLEY?
NO QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT PUSHES TO WEAK ON ITEM
NUMBER 35?
11:12:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:12:53 >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.
11:12:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSEEYE NUMBER 35, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:13:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
21-115, ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1502 NORTH
NEBRASKA AVENUE, 1218, 1302, 1304, 1306, 1308, 1310,
1312, AND 1314 EAST KAY STREET AND 801, 803, 805, 807,
809, AND 811, EAST 3RD AVENUE.
TO PD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE ATTACHED AND PROVIDING
EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:13:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL.
11:13:44 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:13:45 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:13:46 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:13:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
11:13:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:13:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
11:13:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:13:56 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:13:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO BEATLES TRIVIA QUESTION.
11:14:00 >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIR.
I ABSTAINED FROM THIS LAST TIME.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO PLEASE MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
FILE MY --
11:14:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO MOVED.
11:14:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FOR COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO
FILE HIS FORM AND SECOND FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:14:24 >>BILL CARLSON:
THE COMPANY BY WHOM I AM RETAINED HAVE
BUSINESS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ON MATTER NOT RELATED TO
THIS APPLICATION.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 36.
11:14:38 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
36, CASE SU 2-21-0 3, BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READ
ACHBLINGD ADOPTION, SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 APPROVING A
SCHOOL AND RESIDENTIAL-60 ZONING DISTRICT LOCATION
4210 WEST BAY VILLA AVENUE.
THE SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TUESDAY TO THE CLERK'S
OFFICE.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:15:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HUISSEIN.
HEARING NONE.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR 36?
11:15:14 >> GOOD MORNING, JULIA MANDEL, 401 EAST JACKSON
STREET.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE SCHOOL BOARD OF HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY.
I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT AND WE LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO EDUCATE OUR STUDENTS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:15:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 36?
MOTION TO CLOSE.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
GUDES.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON STEPPED OUT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, READ ITEM NUMBER 36.
11:15:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FILE NUMBER SU2-21-03.
FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, SPECIAL USE PERMIT
SU-2 APPROVING A SCHOOL AND RS-60 IN RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY
OF 4210 WEST BAY VILLA AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:16:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ROLL CALL.
11:16:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I DIDN'T.
11:16:16 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:16:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:16:19 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:16:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, AND.
11:16:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:16:29 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES WITH MR. CARLSON.
11:16:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JULIA MANDEL, FORMER CITY
ATTORNEY.
WELCOME BACK TO CITY HALL.
11:16:37 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN:
ZAIN HUSSEIN, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 37,
CASE AB 2-22-05.
THIS IS BEING PRESENT TODAY ARE SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION.
FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION
ON PREMISE AND PACKAGE SALES, OFF-PRECHL MISS
CONSUMPTION FOR BEAR, WINE AND LIQUOR ADDRESS 250 EAST
FLORIBRASKA AVENUE.
SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
ON TUESDAY.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:17:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ZAIN
HUSSEIN.
HEARING NONE.
WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ONLINE.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:17:17 >> SORRY.
DOUBLE MUTE.
MEGAN SMITH WITH HUDSON.
ON BEHALF THE APPLICANT 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE, WE
APPRECIATE STAFF'S HELP WITH ALL OF THIS AND ARE HERE
FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:17:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON
ITEM 37.
11:17:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:17:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:17:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE.
OPPOSED.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, READ ITEM 37.
11:17:50 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AB 2-22-05
ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION APPROVING A
SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES,
SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES
OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION MAKING LAWFUL THE SALES OF
BEVERAGES REGARDING OF ALCOHOLIC CONSENT BEER WINE AND
LIQUOR ON CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED
520 EAST FLORIBRASKA AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AS JIBED THIS SECTION 3,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:18:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON
AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ROLL CALL.
11:18:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
11:18:31 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:18:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
11:18:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:18:34 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:18:35 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:18:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:18:40 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:18:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 38.
MR. HUSSE IN.
11:18:46 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN:
ZAIN HUSSEIN.
AGENDA ITEM 38, CASE AB 2-08, ALCOHOL SALES LARGE VENUE
ON-PREMISE AND OFF-PREMISES.
BEER, WINE AT 203 NORTH MERIDIAN AVENUE.
SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TUESDAY TO THE CITY CLERK'S
OFFICE.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:19:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
NOPE?
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM 38.
11:19:23 >> GOOD MORNING, COLIN RICE, EAST 101 BOULEVARD HERE
FOR THE APPLICANT.
HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:19:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO?
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
38?
ITEM NUMBER 38?
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:19:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.
11:19:39 >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
11:19:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED IN COUNCILMAN VIERA.
38.
11:19:48 >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE ON ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READ AND
ADOPTION SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SALES, LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISES AND PACKAGE
SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE
OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE
AND LIQUOR TO THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OF TRACT OF LAND
203 NORTH MERIDIAN AVENUE TAMPA, FLORIDA.
AND ALL ORDINANCES OF REPEALING AB 19-34 PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:20:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:20:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND
SECOND BY MIRANDA.
11:20:25 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:20:26 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:20:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:20:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NO.
11:20:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
11:20:31 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:20:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:20:39 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO VOTING NO.
11:20:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 39.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT -- THEY WEREN'T HERE THE LAST
TIME.
11:20:44 >> I'M HERE.
11:20:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BEFORE YOU COME UP, ITEM NUMBER
39, MR. ZAIN HUSSEIN.
11:20:51 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 39, CASE AB 2 --
11:20:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUST A MOMENT.
MR. SHELBY.
11:21:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
ITEM NUMBER 39 WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA PURSUANT TO
COUNCIL RULES PROCEDURES 6 H BECAUSE IT RESULTED
PREVIOUSLY IN A TIE VOTE OF 3-3.
AS OUTLINED ON YOUR AGENDA.
11:21:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. HUSSEIN GO
AHEAD.
11:21:20 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ZAIN HUSSEIN.
AGENDA ITEM 39, CASE AB 2-20-11.
A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE 2 FOR SMALL VENUE BEER,
WINE AND LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISE AND PACKAGE
SALES, OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION AT 703 NORTH WILLOW
AVENUE.
11:21:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SO MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN.
11:21:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.
11:21:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITH REGARD TO THIS MATTER.
THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER
23 OF 2021, FEBRUARY 24 OF 2022 -- EXCUSE ME, SEPTEMBER
21 OF 2021 AND SEPTEMBER 29 OF -- FEBRUARY 24 OF 2022.
AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WAS NOT PRESENT ON MARCH 17
OF 2022.
THAT BEING THE CASE, I HAVE PROVIDED THE HEARING --
PREVIOUS HEARINGS, THE LINKS TO THOSE AND THE -- THE
RECORD AS IT IS IN SIRE, AND I ASKED THE COUNCILWOMAN
-- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IF SHE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
REVIEW THE RECORD AND IF YOU ARE PREPARED TO VOTE.
11:22:35 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, I REVIEWED THE RECORDS AND I AM
PREPARED TO VOTE.
11:22:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITH REGARD TO THAT, THE HEARING IS
OPEN AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, YOU
CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, READ THE ORDINANCE OR
NOT.
WHATEVER THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS AND TAKE THE VOTE.
11:22:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?
NOPE?
DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON
39.
11:22:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF THE APPLICANT CAN COME UP AND
IDENTIFY.
11:23:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:23:11 >> I AM JOSEPH COMMESSO, THE OWNER OF 703 NORTH WILLOW
AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
I KNOW WE HAVE A NEW MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL.
I AM ASKING FOR -- I KNOW THE PARKING WAS AN ISSUE WITH
A LOT OF THE MEMBERS ON HERE.
WE HAVE A 3-3 TIE.
SO I GUESS I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A REVOTE OR I AM
JUST TALKING TO MISS HURTAK ON THIS.
11:23:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A REVOTE.
11:23:30 >> OKAY.
WE DO HAVE A PARKING LEASE WITH 1221 WEST CASS STREET
WHICH IS OWNED BY SOHO CASS STREET LCC, BUT ACCORDING
TO THE CITY AND THE RULES, SINCE THEY ARE ONLY ZONED
FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THAT MEANS I HAVE NO
ACCESS TO IT.
SO EVEN TO GO OUT AND FIND OTHER PARKING IN THE AREA,
IF I HAVE A LEASE, WHICH I DO, WITH ANOTHER PROPERTY AT
1220, YOU GUYS STILL WOULD NOT CONSIDER IT BECAUSE IT
IS ONLY ZONED FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY TO PARK AT.
SO I AM KIND OF AT A CROSSROADS.
WHAT DO I TO DO GET MORE PARKING.
I WOULD JUST LIKE A FAIR YEA OR NAY VOTE FROM YOU GUYS.
I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS A BREWERY/RESTAURANT
WHICH IS THE PLANS FOR THIS PROPERTY ONCE -- IF WE GET
APPROVAL.
WE WILL COME BACK.
WE WANT TO OPEN A RESTAURANT ON THIS PROPERTY
EVENTUALLY.
11:24:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING -- MY
PERSONAL OPINION, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, NORTH HYDE PARK,
CORRECT.
11:24:31 >> CORRECT.
11:24:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GENERALLY THEY TALK OF
WALKABILITY.
THEY TALK OF RIDING THEIR BIKE.
YOU SEE THE DENSITY IN THE APARTMENTS.
THE RESIDENTIAL THAT IS THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WOULD PARKING BE AN ISSUE.
THAT IS -- LOOKING AT THIS.
DO YOU EVEN NEED THE PARKING.
11:24:47 >> I DON'T THINK I NEED THE PARKING BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK
AT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE.
THEY ARE YOUNG.
THEY WANT A PLACE LIKE THIS TO GO TO FROM THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T EVEN THINK I NEED THE PARKING.
WILL IT BE A PLACE THAT IS POPULAR WITH PEOPLE FROM
OTHER AREAS AN WANT TO DRIVE IN, AND WE HAVE UP TO 40
SPACES NOW, BUT YOU GUYS WON'T CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE OF
THE ZONING THAT THAT PARKING ALREADY HAS.
11:25:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY.
I AM NOT TESTIFYING.
I AM GIVING AN OPINION.
IS IT OKAY WHAT I SAID.
THAT DOESN'T EFFECT THE RECORD, RIGHT?
11:25:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
LET ME SAY THIS MR. CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, JUST A REMINDER THAT THERE IS --
THERE ARE CODE PROVISIONS OR A CODE PROVISION THAT
ALLOWS FOR PARKING LEASE FOR PARKING TO BE CONSIDERED
IF IT MEETS CERTAIN CRITERIA.
THAT IS A DESIGN EXCEPTION AND I BELIEVE THAT -- THERE
IS A RECORD AS TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE DESIGN
EXCEPTION.
MR. HUSSEIN CAN ANSWER THAT IF THE COUNCIL HAS ANY
QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
WITH REGARD TO THE FACT THIS WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THE
CITY FOR WHATEVER REASONS, THEN WHAT IS BEFORE YOU IS A
PARKING WAIVER WHICH, I RESPECTIVE OF WHAT THE
BUSINESSES IS RUNS WITH THE LAND.
SO JUST A REMINDER TO YOU.
IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, YOU HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO INQUIRE OF STAFF AND LEGAL ON THE
APPLICANT BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION.
JUST THAT REMINDER, PLEASE.
11:26:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS.
ANYBODY ELSE, SIR?
ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, 39.
NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
A MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:26:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION.
11:26:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:26:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
WE LEFT WITH COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:26:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AM VOTING AGAINST THIS, NO, SIR.
11:26:44 >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE NUMBER AB 2-20-11.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING -- SORRY ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT
S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, SMALL, AND ON PREMISE HIS
AND OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
BEVERAGES REGARDLESSLE EVER ALCOHOL CONTENT BEER, WINE
AND LIQUOR ON CERTAIN LOT, PLAT OR TRACT OF LAND ON 703
NORTH WILLOW AVENUE, PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCES OR PART
OF ORDINANCES OF CONFLICT ARE REPEALED PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:27:25 >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
11:27:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL.
11:27:28 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:27:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NO.
11:27:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NO.
11:27:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
11:27:35 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:27:36 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:27:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:27:42 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA, CITRO AND GUDES
VOTING NO.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD MAY 19, 2022
AT 9:30 A.M.
11:27:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. WIGGINTON.
ARE YOU UP.
11:27:56 >> ITEM NUMBER 40.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ROB WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
ITEM NUMBER 40 IS A CONTINUATION OF THE FIRST READING
TO VACATE AN ALLEYWAY LOCATED IN EAST TAMPA.
I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND CITY COUNCIL YOU HAVE WIDE
LATITUDE TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THE VACATING REQUEST.
SOME OF THE OTHER PACTERS YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IF
THE VACATING WILL RELIEVE THE PUBLIC FROM THE COST OF
MAINTAINING ALLEYWAY WHICH IS NO LONGER USEFUL,
ALLEVIATE A PUBLIC NUISANCE OF DUMPING OR KERR TAME
CINL ACTIVITY.
WHETHER YOU WILL FOSTER REDEVELOPMENT OF ABUTTING
PROPERTIES.
AND WHETHER THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS' ACCESS WILL
BE DIMINISHED OR COMPLETELY CUT OFF.
WE WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE DOOR TO MR. ROSS SAMONS WHO
WILL PRESENT A PRESENTATION.
AND I WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:28:52 >>ROSS SAMONS:
THANK YOU, ROSS SAMONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
VAC-22-07.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN,
PLEASE.
CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
11:29:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
11:29:24 >> FILE NUMBER VAC-22-07.
APPLICANT NAME IS TIMONEY B. JOHNSON.
ADDRESS IS EAST IDA TREAT, 2603.
TO VACATE THE ALLEYWAY PORTION OF MARTIN LUTHER KING,
JR., WEST OF 26TH STREET AND EAST OF 27TH STREET.
THIS ALLEY WAS CREATED FOR SUBDIVISION PLAT AND LOCATED
IN EAST TAMPA, NORTH OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
BOULEVARD.
THE APPLICATION WAS FILED ON JANUARY 8 OF 2022.
THE APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE
EAST AND WEST PORTION OF THE ALLEY THAT IS REQUESTING
TO BE VACATED.
THE REASONS IS AS FOLLOWS: CODE ENFORCEMENT SAY
RESPONSIBLE TO MAINTAIN THE ALEY.
I WILL MAINTAIN THE ALLEY IF I OWN HALF OF IT.
THE APPLICANT WANTS TO MAINTAIN AND OWN PROPERTY WITHIN
THE AREA.
WITHIN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.
NO EXISTING CODE VIOLATIONS ON THIS PROPERTY.
AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO VACATE EAT AND
WEST PORTION OF THE ALLEY 2603 EAST IDA STREET.
EXISTING IS 1980 SQUARE FEET.
THE ALLEY UNIMPROVED GRASS AND DOES NOT SHOW APPARENT
USE BY ABUTTING OWNERS.
A TREE BLOCKS THE ALLEY ON THE WEST END.
NO UTILITIES UTILIZE THE ALLEY AND NO EASEMENT
REGULATIONS ARE REQUIRED.
AND HERE IS THE AERIAL VIEW.
THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IN RED AND PROPOSED VACATING
REQUEST IN YELLOW.
HERE IS THE VACATING REQUEST IN RED WITHIN THE PLAT.
JUST AN OVERALL VIEW OF THE SENATORS.
THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING EAST FROM 26TH STREET.
THE ALLEY IS NOT IMPROVED.
THE APPLICANT'S PARCEL LOOKING SOUTH FROM IDA STREET.
THE NORTH AND SOUTH ALLEYWAY LOOKING NORTH FROM DR.
MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD AND NOT TO BE
VACATED.
NORTH AND SOUTH OF LOOKING FROM IDA STREET NOT TO BE
VACATED.
LOOKING AT WEST, NOT TO BE VACATED.
STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION OF THIS VACATING REQUEST BASED
ON RESPONSES RECEIVED FROM REVIEWING AGENCIES.
AND NO EASEMENT OR RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED.
THANK YOU.
11:32:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
SEEING NONE.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 40?
YES, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:32:12 >> TIMOTHY JOHNSON, I AM THE APPLICANT.
11:32:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.
11:32:16 >> I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
MY RATIONALE.
11:32:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC?
11:32:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:32:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WIGGINTON.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECOND BY
MIRANDA.
MR. GUDES, READ ITEM NUMBER 40.
11:32:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
VAC-22-07, FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION.
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,
CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING A RIGHT-OF-WAY
AND ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF IDA STREET, NORTH OF DR.
MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD, EAST OF 26TH STREET
AND WEST OF 27TH AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF THE NORTH
CAMPOBELLO, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED
IN SECTION 2 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET
FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PROVIDING
FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:33:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND SECOND.
ROLL CALL.
11:33:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:33:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
11:33:26 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:33:27 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:33:28 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:33:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
11:33:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:33:33 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MAY 19,
2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
11:33:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE CAN NOT GO FOR OUR 1:30 BECAUSE IT IS NOT 1:30 YET.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
MR. SHELBY, YOU HAVE A FEW ITEMS, AND THEN GO TO
COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:33:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TAKE UP NEW BUSINESS AT THIS TIME
RATHER THAN GO UP INTO STAFF REPORTS.
11:34:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
EVERYONE COMFORTABLE WITH NEW
BUSINESS NOW.
WE CAN ALWAYS --
11:34:07 >>BILL CARLSON:
I MAY HAVE SOME AT THE END.
11:34:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THE BULK.
MR. SHELBY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
11:34:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
SEPTEMBER 2022, PURSUANT TO CHANGES IN STATE STATUTE,
COUNCIL WAS REQUIRED TO HAVE LOCAL ELECTED OFFICER TO
THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND THAT POSITION IS NOW VACANT.
AND, THEREFORE, THE TERM IS REMAINING UNTIL SEPTEMBER
17 OF 2023.
SO COUNCIL NEEDS TO APPOINT SOMEBODY TO FILL THE
UNEXPIRED TERM.
AND UNDER THE -- UNDER THE CODE, THAT PERSON IS
PERMITTED TO CONTINUE IN THAT POSITION.
SO THEY WISH FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO FULL TERMS.
THE QUESTION, COUNCIL, IS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS
THIS NOW OR WOULD YOU RATHER DISCUSS THIS NEXT WEEK FOR
MAKING AN APPOINTMENT TO THAT BOARD.
AGAIN, IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
I COULD COME BACK COUNCIL COULD INDICATE WHO THEIR
CHOICE AND COME BACK WITH A RESOLUTION WITH THAT NAME.
11:35:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MY NOMINATION WILL BE COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK.
JUST MY OPINION.
11:35:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU CAN'T MAKE A MOTION.
11:35:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM JUST GIVING AN OPINION.
11:35:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
11:35:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I'LL MAKE IT NOW.
SHE IS HERE.
IT IS OPEN.
11:35:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WOULD YOU INTERESTED.
11:35:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I MOVE FOR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO FILL
THAT SPACE.
11:35:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A RESOLUTION TO
APPOINT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE LENGTH OF TERM THAT
YOU SPECIFY.
11:35:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
11:35:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE.
OPPOSED.
I NEED --
11:35:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FOR YOUR INFORMATION 100%, 7-0.
11:36:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
UNANIMOUS VOTE.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DO A
15-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON MAY 19 TO DISCUSS THE UPDATED
SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.
I THINK IT WILL BE PUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING
9 A.M.
11:36:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
WHAT DAY, MAY 19?
11:36:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAY 19, 15 MINUTES, PLANNING
COMMISSION TO DISCUSS THE UPDATED SINGLE-MEMBER
DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.
11:36:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I PROVIDED BACKUP MATERIAL.
11:36:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA OPINION.
ALL IN FAVOR.
DID YOU MAKE THE MOTION?
11:36:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I DID.
11:36:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WITHDRAW MY SECOND FOR --
11:36:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE A MEMO FROM OUR ATTORNEY CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE
REQUESTING TO PRESENT THE CITIZEN BOARD 2021 ANNUAL
REPORT ON MAY 5.
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
11:37:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE IS A REQUEST IN THAT MEMO THAT
THE APPEARANCE BE SCHEDULED AT A TIME CERTAIN AT 9 A.M.
WITH THE REQUEST THAT THE CRB CHAIR AND TPD COORDINATOR
PRESENT.
11:37:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VERY GOOD.
THE CLERK HAS THE CLARIFICATION.
IS THAT OKAY AS PART OF THE MOTION?
11:37:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES IT IS.
11:37:28 >>LUIS VIERA:
ITEM NUMBER 1?
11:37:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
OKEY-DOKEY.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANY NEW BUSINESS AT THIS TIME?
11:37:38 >>BILL CARLSON:
IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WILL TRY ONE OR
TWO AND RESERVE THE RIGHT TO DO SOME LATER.
ITEM NUMBER 51, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOTTEN A COPY OF
THIS RESOLUTION YET, BUT IT IS -- IT IS A RESOLUTION OF
THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA RECOGNIZING MAY
2022 AS OSTEOPOROSIS AWARENESS MONTH.
AND ENCOURAGING RESIDENTS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.
BONE HEALTH AND PREVENT OSTEOPOROSIS.
11:38:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON
AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
MOTION PASSES.
ANYTHING ELSE?
11:38:15 >>BILL CARLSON:
ANOTHER ONE REAL FAST.
THE MAYOR HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY
AND TRANSPARENCY THE OTHER DAY AND I HAVE GOTTEN A LOT
OF FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT.
I THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE A DISCUSSION ABOUT -- I WOULD
LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT
ETHICS, TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE
SEPTEMBER 22 WORKSHOP TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT
IDEAS THEY HAVE TO IMPROVE THE CITY'S ETHICS AND OTHER
RULES.
11:38:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:38:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON
AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA THAT IS FOR THE
SECOND 22 WORKSHOP.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING -- I GUESS ITEM NUMBER 1.
CARL CARLSON I PUT IT IN SEPTEMBER BECAUSE VACATIONS
ARE ABOUT TO START AND PEOPLE WILL BE OUT.
IT SEEMED TO BE THE BEST TIME HAVE EVERYBODY AROUND.
11:39:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:39:20 >>LUIS VIERA:
ON THAT DAY I AM SEEING KISS MY SON ON
WEST PALM BEACH.
I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN.
YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT UP.
11:39:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MAY OR MAY NOT BE HERE.
11:39:31 >>BILL CARLSON:
MAKE IT OCTOBER.
11:39:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MAY NOT BE HERE OPINION.
I WILL DEFINITELY DO THAT.
11:39:39 >>BILL CARLSON:
OCTOBER 27.
11:39:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON
OCTOBER 27, 9 A.M.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CHANGE THE DATE TO OCTOBER 27 FOR
THE ETHICS WORKSHOP THAT COUNCILMEMBER.
11:39:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I CAN LIVE A LITTLE LONGER.
11:39:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR.
FOR OCTOBER 27.
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
11:40:08 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WILL WAIT UNTIL LATER.
11:40:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:40:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I MOVE TO RESCHEDULE THE FIRE FIGHTER
OF THE QUARTER COMMENDATION TO OCTOBER 20, CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR SESSION 9 A.M.
11:40:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:40:36 >>LUIS VIERA:
NOTHING FOR ME.
11:40:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:40:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE BUDGET OFFICE ONCE AGAIN WILL
BE RECEIVING THE DISTINGUISHED BUDGET AWARD FOR THE --
FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2022.
WOULD LIKE TO SCHEDULE THAT POSSIBLE FOR MAY 10.
11:40:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.
11:40:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ALL RIGHT.
THE ONLY MOTION I HAVE IS THAT WE TAKE A RECESS NOW
UNTIL 1:30 FOR LUNCH.
WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 1:30 FOR THE REST OF EVERYTHING
HERE.
BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS -- IS KNOWN TO COME BACK THEN.
SO MOTION TO RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
[GAVEL SOUNDING]
13:34:09 >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
13:34:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.
13:34:12 >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
13:34:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
13:34:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
13:34:17 >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
13:34:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER 20.
13:34:21 >>ROB ROSNER:
GOOD AFTERNOON.
I APPRECIATE THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT 20 AND 21.
SO TODAY, WE BRING UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
SO JUST WANTED TO OPEN WITH A SLIDE TO GIVE EVERYONE AN IDEA
OF THIS SCALE, IN WEST TAMPA, HOW CLOSE IT IS TO DOWNTOWN,
AND DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE MLK CENTER.
IN THE LOWER CORNER YOU WILL SEE KIND OF JUST A GRAPHIC OF
WHAT THE OVERALL PLANE IS, AND HERE TO HELP WITH THAT IN
DETAIL.
SO THIS PROJECT STARTED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, THE
ADMINISTRATION DECIDED TO PUT THIS OUT, AND DO A HOLISTIC
APPROACH OF DOING DEVELOPMENTS, SO WE DECIDED TO BE A MIXED
INCOME, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, AND WITH A STRONG ENGAGEMENT
WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE ARE -- OCTOBER OF 2020.
WE RECEIVED SIX RESPONSES AND INTERVIEWED THE TOP THREE.
AND OUT OF THAT SELECTION PROCESS RELATED URBAN DEVELOPMENT
GROUP WAS SELECTED.
WE BEGAN NEGOTIATIONS IN THE SPRING OF 21, AND JUST
COMPLETED THOSE IN THE FIRST PORTION.
SO TODAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE CONSIDERATION OF TWO DIFFERENT
AGREEMENTS, A LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT AND A COMMUNITY
BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
SO JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE AGREEMENT.
THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS SUBMITTED HAD TWO FORMS OF
DISPOSITIONS.
THEY HAVE A 99 YEAR GROUND LEASE, AND A FOR SALE TOWNHOMES
PORTION, AND THEN RFP REQUIRED AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS
AGREEMENT, AND THIS WILL BE THE FIRST OFFICIAL ONE THAT WE
HAVE.
AND THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR THE
ENTIRE PROCESS.
IT COVERS ALL THE BENEFITS FROM THE PHYSICAL AMENITIES TO
THE LESS TANGIBLE ONES.
AND I'LL START WITH THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.
THE PROPOSAL OFFERED A IT 99 YEAR GROUND LEASE FOR THE
MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY.
IT HAS A TOWN HOME PORTION OF IT THAT HAS TO BE PAID IN FEE
SIMPLE.
THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE DONE IN FIVE PHASES.
TAKE ABOUT SIX YEARS TO GET COMPLETED.
AND WE HAVE 360 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE NEXT THREE ITEMS BEFORE
WE CAN CONTINUE.
AND THOSE THREE ITEMS ARE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY,
NEGOTIATION OF MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE AND RIVERWALK
IMPROVEMENTS AGREEMENT, WHICH IS PART OF THE BUILD GRANT,
AND THEN A PHASING AND TIMING PLAN FOR THE PROJECT.
THOSE WILL ALL COME BEFORE YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
NEXT WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
THIS AGAIN IS REQUIRED BY THE RFP.
WE HAVE IT ALL IN CBA.
WE ENGAGE THE NEIGHBORHOODS INCLUDING THE WEST TAMPA CAC.
THOSE ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS ARE REQUIRED SO WE HAVE ALL THE
RIGHT THINGS.
AND THEN IT CONTAINS COMMITMENTS FOR THOSE PHYSICAL
IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS THE A AFFORDABILITY COMMITMENTS, THE
MINORITY PARTICIPATION AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITMENTS
AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITMENTS.
SO THOSE ARE THE OVERVIEW OF THE TWO DOCUMENTS THAT ARE
BEFORE YOU FOR ITEMS 20 AND 21.
I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WE MET RECENTLY WITH THE WEST TAMPA
CAC AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEK ON THE 12th.
THEY ASKED FOR SOME LAST MINUTE CHANGES WHICH WERE ALL
POSITIVE AND HELPFUL, AND THE CHARACTERIZED.
THIS NEXT SLIDE.
COUNCILMAN GUDES?
13:38:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WHEN I LOOK AT 20 AND 21, IT DIDN'T STRIKE
ME TILL LAST NIGHT.
WHEN I LOOKED AT THE BOUNDARY, WE SAY NORTH OF SPRUCE.
IN MY MIND, I SEE THE SCHOOL, I SEE THE BASEBALL FIELD.
IS THAT ALL INCLUDED, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM INVOLVED IN THIS
PROCESS HERE?
13:38:30 >> JC PROPERTY OWNERS, AND YES, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE --
CORRECT.
THEY ARE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS BUT THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED
IN THIS DEAL.
13:38:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BECAUSE WHEN I HEAR NORTH OF SPRUCE, IT
GOES RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE THERE SO WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR MAP
I AM ADJUSTMENT WONDERING HOW IT COMES INTO PLAY HERE.
13:38:55 >> SO THE SIX ACRE PORTION OF THE SITE IS JUST NORTH OF JUST
ELEMENTARY, AND THE 12-ACRE SITE IS JUST NORTH OF THE MLK
CENTER.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO BRING THE MAP UP.
13:39:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO WE ARE SAYING IT'S BEHIND -- YOU HAVE
GOT TO TELL ME IT'S BEHIND THOSE ADJACENT PROPERTIES?
13:39:12 >> YES.
13:39:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU SAY NORTH OF SPRUCE?
13:39:14 >> YES.
THE SCHOOLS ARE ON SPRUCE.
THESE ARE NORTH OF THAT.
13:39:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
13:39:21 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION BACK UP,
PLEASE?
13:39:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COME BACK TO THE MAP AT THE BEGINNING.
13:39:32 >> SO THE WEST RIVER DEVELOPMENT IS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE
BORDER TO SPRUCE ON THE SOUTH, THE SCHOOL JUST ON THE NORTH,
THE BASEBALL FIELDS THAT ARE THE SIX ACRE PORTION THAT ARE
JUST NORTH OF JUST ELEMENTARY, AND THEN THE OLD WATER SITE
THAT'S THERE IS UTILITIES, THAT IS THE OTHER --
13:39:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BUT THE BASEBALL FIELD IS CITY PROPERTY,
CORRECT?
13:39:58 >> CORRECT.
13:39:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT'S PART OF THIS DEAL?
13:40:00 >> YES.
SO WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IS THOSE 18 ACRES.
13:40:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THOSE ARE ALL CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES.
13:40:11 >> RIGHT.
13:40:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
AND MY FINAL QUESTION TO YOU, THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT, IT'S NOT PART OF --
13:40:17 >> NOT PART OF THIS.
13:40:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECONDLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I PUT THAT
COMMUNITY AGREEMENT FOR CRAs ON THE RECORD IS THE WEST
TAMPA CAC, THAT COMMUNITY IS SATISFIED WITH WHAT THEY WANT
TO SEE A PART OF THIS PROJECT FOR THE CRA?
13:40:36 >> YES.
WE HAVE MET WITH THEM THREE DIFFERENT TIMES, AND THEY WILL
BE INCLUDED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
AND AS I WAS MENTIONING A MOMENT AGO, WE MET WITH THEM JUST
AS A MATTER OF FACT LAST TUESDAY.
PREVIOUSLY.
SO THIS --
13:40:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
A LOT CAN HAPPEN, SO THEY HAVE MET, THEY
ARE HAPPY, THEY GOT WHAT THEY WANT, APPARENTLY WHAT THEY
WANT FOR THIS PROJECT?
13:41:01 >>ROB ROSNER:
CORRECT.
SO WE BROUGHT TO YOU A SUBSTITUTE SET OF AGREEMENTS THAT
INCLUDED THOSE LAST MINUTE CHANGES.
AND I WILL OUTLINED THOSE IF YOU DON'T MIND.
13:41:13 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION BEFORE YOU GET
INTO THAT?
I ASKED YOU THIS YESTERDAY, AND MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION FOR
YOU AND LEGAL.
YOU ANSWERED A LITTLE BIT YESTERDAY, BUT ALSO JUST FOR THE
PUBLIC'S SAKE, IF YOU ALL CAN ANSWER THIS.
AS I REMEMBER, THE MAYOR HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE LIKE MARCH
17th A YEAR AGO, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, TO ANNOUNCE
THE AWARDING OF THIS RFP.
BUT IN A YEAR AND A MONTH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT CITY
COUNCIL HAS VOTED ON THIS, RIGHT?
13:41:43 >>ROB ROSNER:
CORRECT.
13:41:45 >>BILL CARLSON:
IS THERE NO REQUIREMENT IN THE LAW THAT THE
CITY COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE THE AWARDING OF THE RFP BEFORE
WE GET TO THE CONTRACT STAGE?
13:41:55 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
NICOLE TRAVIS.
ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
THE ANSWER TO THAT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IS NO.
WHEN WE DO ISSUANCE OF THE RFP, WE DRAW THE RFP AND THE WAY
THE PROCESS IS LAID OUT AND ADMINISTRATOR DECISION IS MADE
BASED ON WHATEVER CRITERIA IS THE IN THE RFP, WHETHER IT'S
PROFESSIONAL, AND YOU HAVE A PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT REVIEWS
THAT, RANKS THEN THAT, AND ISSUE OF INTENT TO AWARD.
THEN WE ENTER INTO NEGOTIATION WITH THE TOP RANKED FIRM AND
THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH THE RELATED GROUP TO COME UP WITH A
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR DISPOSITION AGREEMENT THAT'S BEFORE
YOU TODAY.
SO THERE'S NO ACTION FOR THE BOARD.
THIS IS ACTUALLY YOUR PART IN THE PROCESS.
THE PREVIOUS PART OF THE PROCESS IS ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE
SIDE.
THIS IS NOW WHERE THIS BODY GETS TO APPROVE OR CONSIDER THE
PROPOSAL.
13:42:48 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
IT JUST SEEMS -- MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS IN NEW
BUSINESS THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME INTERIM STEP.
THERE WAS A LOT OF CONTROVERSY HE OVER THE WAY THIS WAS
AWARDED, LOTS OF STORIES IN THE TIMES AND OTHER PLACES,
EDITORIALS, AND IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE BY
A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE IN THE LAST YEAR, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD IDEA TO GET SOME KIND OF INTERIM
APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL BEFORE WE GOT TO THIS POINT.
AND IF THE LAWS DON'T REQUIRE IT, MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT
WHETHER WE SHOULD DO IT OR NOT.
BUT FROM A PUBLIC POINT OF VIEW, I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
A BETTER IDEA TO HAVE CONSENSUS BEFORE WE GOT TO THIS POINT,
BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU.
13:43:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GO AHEAD.
13:43:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK A LOT OF EFFORT HAS BEEN PUT INTO
THE PROJECT.
AND I CAN SEE THAT.
BUT I SAID THIS MANY YEARS AGO IN 2019 WHEN I TALKED ABOUT
THE RFP PROCESS, AND THAT'S A PROCESS THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO
LOOK AT.
MAYBE NOT TODAY, BUT I THINK IN THE FUTURE.
MR. CARLSON, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL COUNCIL
BEING PART OF THAT RFP PROCESS.
13:44:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.
13:44:04 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I WOULD LIKE FOR STAFF TO FINISH WITH THE
PRESENTATION AND THEN THE DEVELOPER TO COME UP AND DO A
PRESENTATION FOR COUNCIL, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE QUESTIONS AND
TALK ABOUT BOTH AGREEMENTS, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU.
13:44:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
GO AHEAD.
13:44:18 >>ROB ROSNER:
AGAIN, ROB ROSNER, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITY.
THE SUBSTITUTE DOCUMENTS INCLUDE THOSE ITEMS WHICH
INCLUDE -- INCLUDING ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDERS IN THE CBA
PROCESS, REVISED INCOME RESTRICTIONS FOR THE TOWNHOMES WHICH
WERE ORIGINALLY OFFERED AS NOT AFFORDABLE, BUT THEY ASKED IF
THEY COULD BE AFFORDABLE.
SO ONE OF THE ITEMS THERE IS TO INCREASE THAT TO 199% OF THE
I TO ALLOW THE DIFFERENTIATION OF THE TOWNHOMES.
AND THEN THE STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER AGREED TO THESE, SO WE
BROUGHT THOSE FORWARD AND SENT TO YOU EARLIER, AND THOSE
INCLUDE A NEW LDA, CBA, AND RESOLUTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH
IT.
ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT'S REFERENCED BY THIS IS THEIR PROPOSAL
AND THE PRESENTATION.
AND WE FOLLOWED -- FILED THAT WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THOSE
AS PART OF THE CONSIDERATION.
13:45:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
13:45:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK MR. ROSNER EXPLAIN ABOUT THE
SITUATION WITH THE AGREEMENT, THE 190%, I BELIEVE IT IS.
13:45:37 >>ROB ROSNER:
199.
13:45:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
EXPLAIN THAT IF YOU CAN AND TALK ABOUT
AFFORDABILITY, TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS.
13:45:44 >>ROB ROSNER:
DURING THE RFP PROCESS WE HAD CERTAIN GOALS,
CERTAIN PERCENTAGES OF AMI FOR THE DIFFERENT
AFFORDABILITIES.
SO WE HAD A 50% AMI, 80%, 140% AMI.
THESE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
SO THE TOWNHOMES WERE NOT REQUIRED TO BE THAT.
THEY OFFERED THAT AS AN EXTRA AND IMPROVED THEIR PROPOSAL
DURING THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS.
THE WEST TAMPA FOLKS ASKED, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE THIS 15
YEAR AFFORDABILITY, CAN IT BE FOR A DIFFERENT RANGE INSTEAD
OF THE NORMAL 140?
SO BECAUSE R SINCE THAT WASN'T A REQUIREMENT AND IT WAS AN
EXTRA, THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA.
SO THE 199 WOULD HELP COVER THOSE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE
TEACHERS THAT ARE LIVING OR WORKING TOGETHER, AND MISS THE
140 AMI.
SO THEY WANTED TO HAVE THAT RANGE TO GIVE THAT TO THE
NEIGHBORS AND THE PEOPLE IN WEST TAMPA.
13:46:41 >>BILL CARLSON:
SORRY, ONE MORE QUESTION WHILE WE HAVE YOU
UP, ROB.
THIS MORNING, I TALKED ABOUT THE TOTAL VALUE OF THIS
CONTRACT, AND I JUST GOT A COPY OF THAT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT
WHAT I REMEMBER IS THERE'S LIKE A TWO AND A HALF MILLION
DOLLAR PAYMENT AND THEN AFTER SOME CRITERIA LIKE ANOTHER TWO
AND A HALF MILLION AND THEN 15% RENT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT YOU ALL MUST HAVE DONE SOME PROJECTIONS OVER THE 99
YEARS OF WHAT YOU THINK THE REVENUES ARE GOING TO BE TO THE
CITY.
AND THOSE NUMBERS CAN CHANGE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
RENTAL RATES AND EVERYTHING ARE GOING TO BE.
BUT WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED REVENUES TO THE CITY?
BY THE WAY, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE 99 YEAR LEASE INSTEAD OF
SELLING IT OUTRIGHT.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
AND CAROL, I KNOW, PUSHED FOR IT.
IS THIS A $100 MILLION PROJECT FROM THE CITY REVENUE POINT
OF VIEW, OR 10 MILLION, ANY BALLPARK IDEA WHERE WE ARE?
13:47:37 >>ROB ROSNER:
SO THE INITIAL OFFER WAS 2500 A UNIT.
WE HAVE 954 UNITS.
ASKED FOR 2.38 MILLION WAS OFFERED FOR THIS.
AND THAT WOULD COME AS EACH OF THE UNITS COME ON, THEY WOULD
COME UP AS A CAPITALIZED LEASE PAYMENT SO THEY PAY THAT UP
FRONT.
WE WOULD GET THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE
PROJECT.
THEN AFTER THAT, THOSE PHASES, THEY WOULD HAVE A NET CASH
FLOW, AND WE WOULD GET 12.5% OF THAT.
SO VERY SIMILAR TO PERCENTAGE RENT FOR A RESTAURANT.
SO THE IDEA IS THEY WOULD SAY THIS IS HOW MUCH OUR EXPENSES
ARE, THIS IS WHAT WE MADE IN REVENUE, GET 12.5 PERCENT --
13:48:19 >> YOU PROBABLY DID AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE CASH FLOW WOULD
BE TO THE CITY FOR THE 12.5 MILLION, AND MAYBE A PRESENT
VALUE OVER 30 YEARS OR SOMETHING?
13:48:30 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WE DID TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT
PROJECTION IS BUT THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO KNOW WHAT THAT
NET CASH FLOW WOULD BE.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE IN THE MEMO THAT WAS SENT, YOU HAVE A
WRITE-UP FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
THAT CASH VALUE WOULD BE AND THERE'S REALLY NO WAY FOR US TO
PREDICT WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD BE.
WE DON'T KNOW VACANCY RATES.
WE DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT OF WHAT THE MARKET WOULD BE AT THAT
TIME.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT LOANS, FINANCING.
WE CAN'T ESTIMATE WHAT THAT NET CASH FLOW VALUE WOULD BE TO
BE ABLE TO ATTACH A VALUE TO THAT.
SO IN OUR MEMO, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS -- THERE IS
SOMETHING STATED FROM THE BUDGET REVENUE AND FINANCE OFFICE
TO ADDRESS THAT.
BUT THERE'S NO NUMBER TO THAT YET.
13:49:20 >>BILL CARLSON:
THE DEVELOPER MUST HAVE THEIR OWN CASH FLOW
PROJECTION.
THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
AND YOU COULD DO --
13:49:29 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I'M SURE THEY DID A PRO FORMA IN ORDER TO
FIGURE OUT WHETHER THE PROJECT IS A VIABLE ONE OR NOT, AND
THAT'S A QUESTION THAT YOU CAN ASK THE DEVELOPER.
AGAIN, IF WE CAN FINISH OUR PRESENTATION AND THEN GET INTO
THE --
13:49:43 >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST -- NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT, BUT WE
HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO THE TAXPAYERS AND IT'S A
99 YEAR LEASE AND IF WE SOLD THE PROPERTY OUTRIGHT WE WOULD
KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS.
AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S VARIABLE BUT YOU HAVE BEST CASE, WORSE
CASE, AN ECONOMIST PROJECTING IT AND YOU WOULDN'T HOLD
ANYBODY TO IT BUT WOULD HAVE A GENERAL IDEA WHAT IT WOULD
END UP BEING.
13:50:05 >> I CAN'T PROVIDE YOU ANY MORE DEFINITIVE INFORMATION,
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUT IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROPOSALS
THAT THE CITY RECEIVED THE THREE FINALISTS.
THIS WAS THE ONLY PROPOSAL WHERE THERE WAS AN OFFER TO
ACTUALLY PAY THE CITY FOR THE PROPERTY OR PROVIDE A LEASE
PAYMENT, AND ALSO THIS IS THE ONLY PROPOSAL THAT CAME
FORWARD WHERE THEY AGREED NOT TO SEEK FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE
FROM THE CRA FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THAT WEIGHED INTO THE DECISION MAKING.
13:50:32 >>BILL CARLSON:
BUT JUST A THOUGHT, NO WHERE, OUR BUDGET
DEPARTMENT DID NOT DO ANY PROJECTIONS AT ALL?
13:50:41 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THE BUDGET, THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE
IS ALL SPECULATION, BASED ON A NUMBER OF VARIABLES THAT WE
DON'T HAVE AT THIS TIME.
HOWEVER, IN THE RFP THAT IS RECORDED WITH THIS PROJECT, YOU
WILL NOTICE THAT THE RESPONDENT RELATED GROUP HAS ESTIMATED
OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT ABOUT 154 MILLION INVESTMENT IN
THE PROJECT.
WHAT THEIR NET CASH FLOW IS, WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE AGAIN
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AVAILABLE VARIABLES THAT ARE UNKNOWN
TO US, THAT YOU CAN'T MATHEMATICALLY PUT OUT THAT EQUATION
RIGHT NOW.
13:51:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. ROGERO, YOU ARE ON.
13:51:22 >>DENNIS ROGERO:
GOOD AFTERNOON.
CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
I WAS JUST GOING TO REITERATE THE COMMENTS THAT MS. TRAVIS
SAID.
THERE ARE JUST TOO MANY VARIABLES OVER A 99-YEAR PERIOD.
WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE -- (AUDIO DROP) AND THAT'S
WHY --
13:51:44 >>> THANK YOU.
WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION THEN.
13:51:49 >> I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE ALBERT MILE WITH THE RELATED
GROUP TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT AND THE CBA PROCESS THEY
WENT THROUGH AS A GROUP.
ALBERT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP, PLEASE?
13:52:01 >> THANK YOU.
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-- PUBLIC HOUSING, WHAT USED TO BE THE OLD -- HOMES, JUST A
FEW BLOCKS TO THE SOUTH OF THE ROME YARDS DEVELOPMENT HERE
TODAY, AND IF YOU HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT AREA,
AND KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH TO DATE,
WHAT USED TO BE 800 UNITS OF PUBLIC HOUSING, THAT WAS BUILT
IN THE 1930s, IS NOW FULLY TRANSFORMED INTO WE HAVE
COMPLETED FOUR OF THE BUILDINGS, TAMPA HOUSING COMPLETED THE
FIFTH BUILDING, ABOUT TO FINISH OUR SIXTH BUILDING INCLUDING
THE RENOVATIONS, AND ALL THE BOULEVARD, WEST RIVER BOULEVARD
PROPERTIES, WE JUST RECENTLY -- AND THIS IS AN ENVIRONMENT
OF ESCALATING CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND RATES THAT WE KEEP
HEARING ABOUT.
WE JUST CLOSED ON THE NEXT 190-SOME ODD UNITS ON THE EASTERN
BLOCK SO WE CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT THAT PROJECT.
THAT IS A PROJECT THAT WHEN WE STARTED OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH
TAMPA HOUSING, AGAIN IT WAS 800 UNITS OF DEVELOPMENT AND
STRICTLY ALL PUBLIC HOUSING, ALL LOWER INCOME.
NOW AS WE GO THROUGH, WE ARE BUILDING A MIXED INCOME
COMMUNITY, AND IN ADDITION TO MARKET RATE.
THERE'S A MARKET RATE COMPONENT THAT'S GETTING READY TO
START IN THAT AREA, A HOME OWNERSHIP MUCH PART OF WEST
RIVER, GOING TO BE A BIG NATIONAL RETAIL STORY THAT'S COME
TO THE CORNER OF MAIN STREET AND NORTH BOULEVARD, SO WE ARE
BIG PROMOTERS OF MIXED INCOME.
I HEARD A LOT OF TALK EARLIER ABOUT THE CONCERNS OF RISING
RENTS, AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR FAMILIES.
I HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TOUCHING ON JOBS AND
WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE MIGHT BE FOR FOLKS COMING OUT OF
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT A COUPLE OF THINGS OF OUR PROPOSAL,
I THINK HE SAID IT RIGHT, THAT OUT OF THE PROPOSALS THAT YOU
RECEIVED, EVERYONE WAS SAYING WE ARE NOT WILLING TO HAVE ANY
TYPE OF SHARE OF REVENUES WITH THE CITY.
ACTUALLY QUITE THE CONTRARY, THEY WERE ALL ASKING FOR
RESOURCE SOURCES FROM THE CITY.
UNLIKE OURS, WE SPECIALIZE IN PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
WE HAVE DONE IN EXCESS OF A BILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS OVER
THE LAST FIVE, SIX YEARS.
WE HAVE THESE TYPE OF PARTNERSHIPS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
AND ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE DO, AS WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT OUR PUBLIC PARTNER SHARES IN THE UP-SIDE OF OUR
DEVELOPMENTS.
AND WE DO HAVE A REVENUE SHARE PROJECTED AND THAT'S WHY WE
PROFFERED THAT.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE CAPITALIZE STATEMENT, WHERE -- GET
PAID UP FRONT AT THE FINANCIAL CLOSING OF EVERY DEAL, WE
PROFIT, 12½ CASH FLOW PARTICIPATION, THE ESTIMATE IS OVER
$120 MILLION OVER THE BUILD-OUT OF THE PHASES AND THE
BUILD-OUT OF THE PROJECT.
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON,
WHY WE PROFFER LAND LEASES IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
AS PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS, RATHER THAN A FEE SIMPLE
TRANSACTION TO SAY WE GIVE YOU A CHECK AT CLOSING AND WE
STRUCTURE THE DEALS AS LONG-TERM LEASES AND PROVIDE THAT
REVENUE STREAM TO OUR PUBLIC PARTNERS.
A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT POINTS THAT I THINK -- AND YOU HEARD A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM BEFORE WITH SOME OF OUR TEAM
MEMBERS -- IS THE FACT THAT WE FOCUS HEAVILY ON COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF EXPERTISE, WE DO HAVE
A LOT OF FINANCIAL CAPACITY, WE HAVE THE BEST DESIGN
PROFESSIONALS, ALWAYS WORKING WITH US.
HOWEVER, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T JUST COME AND IMPOSE
OUR WILL IN THESE COMMUNITIES.
IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE DO ON A COLLABORATIVE
BASIS.
THAT'S WHY THE RFP HAS BEEN OVER A YEAR.
SO IT HASN'T COME TO THIS COUNCIL BEFORE.
WHY?
BECAUSE WE TOOK THAT TIME ALONG WITH YOUR CITY STAFF TO HAVE
THOSE OUTREACH MEETINGS, TO HAVE THAT DIALOGUE WITH THE
COMMUNITY, TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE NEEDS, AND THERE MAY BE
THINGS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE PROPOSED THAT THEY LIKED AND A LOT
OF GOOD THINGS THAT WE PROPOSED THAT THEY DISLIKED.
AND AS ROB MENTIONED, JUST AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEK, THE
COMMUNITY HAD SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, AND THAT WAS A GOOD
POINT ON THE HOME OWNERSHIP SIDE, THE 140 IS WORKFORCE.
THE QUESTION WAS, HOW ABOUT IF YOU HAVE TWO TEACHERS, RIGHT?
THEY ARE GOING TO EXCEED THAT 140% OF AMI LEVELS.
HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT?
AND THAT'S WHY YOU SAW ONE OF THOSE CHANGES AS RELATES TO
HOME OWNERSHIP COMPONENT.
SO WE HAVE A MIX OF AFFORDABILITY IN OUR PROPOSAL.
WE ARE PROPOSING TO FINANCE THESE AS 80-20 TAX EXEMPT BOND
TRANSACTIONS.
THAT'S FUNDING THAT'S READILY AVAILABLE AS OF RIGHT.
WE WILL BE APPLYING TO THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HFA, WE
FINANCED MANY OF THOSE DEALS ALREADY ON WEST RIVER LIKE
THAT, SO UNLIKE SOME OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT
ARE STRICTLY LOTTERY BASED, OUR PROPOSAL IS NOT BASED ON
THAT.
THAT'S WHY WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER A PROJECT THAT CAN MOVE
FORWARD.
OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME STEPS THAT STILL NEED TO HAPPEN,
ZONING AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE AGREEMENT AND THOSE THINGS
THAT WILL EVENTUALLY COME BACK TO THIS COUNCIL.
BUT IT'S NOT CONTINGENT UPON SOME TYPE OF LATH LOTTERY BASED
ON THAT SIDE.
AND AGAIN IT'S A MIXED INCOME APPROACH.
THOSE TAX EXEMPT BONDS REQUIRE 20% OF THE PROJECT TO BE SET
ASIDE FOR 50 PERCENT OF THEIR MEDIAN INCOME SO ALL PHASES
WILL HAVE A 50% AMI WHICH IS CATEGORIZED AS LOW INCOME.
WE HAVE ANOTHER 10% OF THE PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE 80% OF
MEDIAN INCOME WHICH IS CATEGORIZED ON THE LOW-INCOME
CATEGORY.
WE HAVE A 40% UP TO 140 PERCENT, IN THAT RANGE BETWEEN 80
AND 140, THAT WORKFORCE BRACKET.
THEN WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE A 30% BRACKET WHICH IS MARKET RATE
UNRESTRICTED.
AND THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE GOING TO
BUILD A PROJECT, AND WITH ALL AMENITIES AND ALL OF THESE
DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT SOMEONE THAT IS WILLING TO PAY FULL
MARKET RATE IS SAYING, THAT'S A COMMUNITY THAT I WANT TO
LIVE IN, BUT ALSO IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF UNIT WITH THE SAME
ENITIES AND THE SAME ACCESS FOR SOMEONE THAT'S AT A 50% OF
MEDIAN INCOME SPECTRUM.
SO IT WILL ADDRESS A LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS THAT I HEARD
EARLIER TODAY FROM THE PUBLIC AS FAR AS, HEY, EITHER MY
NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN GENTRIFIED AND NOW THEREFORE THERE'S
MARKET FORCES AT WORK THAT ARE PUSHING ME OUT OF MY
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I STILL WANT TO REMAIN HERE.
OR CONVERSELY, YES, WE WANT TO BRING THAT BUT WE ALSO WANT
TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT KIND OF INCOME
DIVERSITY.
THAT'S HOW WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE OUR PROJECTS FEASIBLE.
THAT'S AN APPROACH THAT WE HAVE APPLIED MANY TIMES AND R IN
MANY MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
SO THAT IS A BIG BENEFIT LONG-TERM, NOT JUST FOR THE
COMMUNITY BUT ALSO FOR OUR PUBLIC PARTNERS.
A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY ASSETS THAT WE ARE BUILDING, WE ARE
GOING TO BE BUILDING A CULTURAL CENTER.
THAT'S PART OF OUR AGREEMENT.
WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING A WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER AS
PART OF OUR REDEVELOPMENT, ALONG WITH NUMEROUS OTHER
ENITIES AND ACTIVITY, AND PETER WILL TOUCH A LITTLE BIT
UPON THOSE.
BUT TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE ARE THE FIRST
DEVELOPER IN TO PROFFER A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT IN
ONE OF OUR DEALS.
THE REASON WHY WE DID THAT IS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO DOCUMENT
THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE.
SO HOW DO WE DO THAT IS AFTER THESE SESSIONS AND AFTER THESE
MEETINGS, WE ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE, PUT THAT IN WRITING,
AND THAT BECOMES OUR PLAYBOOK AS WE EXECUTE THESE
DEVELOPMENTS.
WE WORKED WITH YOUR STAFF, AND AS MENTIONED, IT'S NOT JUST
THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.
THERE'S A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT ATTACHED TO THIS
PIECE, AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR -- LIKE MR. ROBINSON SAY, FOR A
LONG TIME THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR THAT, THAT WE
WILL BE ABLE TO NOW BE ONCE AGAIN THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT
COMPANY TO BE ABLE TO WORK FROM A DOCUMENTED, WRITTEN
COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
AND THEN A COUPLE OF OTHER MAJOR POINTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO
TOUCH UPON, A LOCAL HIRING PIECE, WE HAVE COMMITTED TO 20%
OF LOCAL HIRING AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, IT WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION EARLIER, AND I KNOW
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS, THE PROGRAM TO TRY
TO DO AN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM TO ADDRESS FOLKS COME OUT OF
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT'S ANOTHER INITIATIVE THAT WE ADOPTED
FIRST IN OUR LIBERTY SQUARE REDEVELOPMENT, MIAMI-DADE
COUNTY.
LIKE OTHER PRIVATE COMPANIES, AT THE TIME, WHEN THAT
HAPPENED, ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, WE HAD OUR OWN SETS OF
APPREHENSIONS, RIGHT?
THERE WAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL PITFALLS ON THAT.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU TODAY THAT WE MADE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO
HIRE NOT JUST LOCAL HIRES BUT TO HIRE FOLKS COMING OUT OF
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND PROBABLY THAT IS THE MOST
IMPACTFUL THING THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO AS PART OF OUR
REDEVELOPMENT.
YES, WE HAVE BUILT HOUSING AND YES, WE HAVE GOT PEOPLE
LIVING IN BRAND NEW JUST LIKE WE ARE DOING ON WEST RIVER,
BUT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IMPACT THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
MAKE WITH THAT OUTREACH AND THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN
SUBSTANTIAL.
SO I WANT TO APPLAUD THIS COUNCIL FOR HAVING THAT PROACTIVE
APPROACH TO THINK ABOUT THOSE ISSUES.
I CAN TELL YOU FIRSTHAND, I WAS A BUSINESS OWNER, THAT IT
WORKS.
IT WORKS.
WE HAVE TAKEN FOLKS THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE BACK TO THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND NOW THEY HAVE NOT A JOB, IT'S
NOT A JOB, IT'S A CAREER, BECAUSE THEY HAVE LEARNED THE
OPPORTUNITY, THEY HAVE LEARNED THE TRADE NOW, AND THEY ARE
NOT JUST WORKING IN THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE, THEY HAVE
ACTUALLY BEEN PERMANENTLY HIRED WITH SUBCONTRACTORS AND NOW
HAVE A CAREER FOR THEIR FUTURE AND TO FEED THEMSELVES
LONG-TERM.
SO THOSE PROGRAMS WORK.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD
CONTINUE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT AND PUSH FORWARD, AND WE
WILL GLADLY ALSO WORK ALONGSIDE OF YOU TO HELP PROMOTE THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE IS CONTRARY TO SMALL BUSINESSES,
ARE WE COMMITTED TO 40% OF THAT TO SMALL.
40% OF THE VALUE OF OUR CONTRACTS TO GO TO SMALL AND
MINORITY CERTIFIED BUSINESSES.
WE KNOW THAT SMALL BUSINESSES AND MINORITY BUSINESSES HIRE
LOCALLY.
THAT'S A PROVEN FACT.
SO WE WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT YOU DON'T
WANT TO -- THE WORST THING YOU CAN HAVE IS THESE TYPE
REDEVELOPMENTS WHERE YOU ARE BUILDING AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD
IS KIND OF ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, NOT PARTICIPATING IN
THAT REBUILDING FROM THEIR OWN COMMUNITY.
THAT'S WHY WE MADE THAT COMMITMENT.
YOU KNOW, IT PROBABLY EXCEEDS ANYTHING THAT THE CITY OF
TAMPA HAS SEEN BEFORE, AND SOME OF THE CONTRACTS, ELECTRICS,
WE HAVE HAD THOSE BEFORE AND WE EXCEEDED THEM.
SO I JUST THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO WORK
ALONGSIDE YOU AS THE PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNER, AND WE KNOW
THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO BE BRING THE SAME TYPE OF SUCCESS
THAT WE HAVE HAD IN WEST RIVER ALONGSIDE THE CITY NOW WITH
THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO PETER VAN WARREN.
14:05:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
AGAIN, I HAVE BEEN DOWN TO MIAMI.
MY FAMILY IS DOWN THERE.
I KNOW LIBERTY CITY PROJECT SO I GET IT.
FOR ME IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THAT COMMUNITY -- NO DOUBT.
FOR ME IS MAKING SURE THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE TO COME BACK,
BE ABLE TO WORK.
SO DO WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLAY, OR STAFF HAVE A SYSTEM IN
PLAY TO MONITOR AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE MINORITIES ARE
GETTING A CHANCE TO BE ON THOSE JOB SITES, THAT COUNCIL CAN
BE GETTING UPDATES AND KNOW THE PERCENT OF PEOPLE THAT
WORKING ON THE PROJECT, TO SAY WE HAVE ACTUAL PEOPLE WORKING
ON THE PROJECT THAT LOOK LIKE ME, OR HISPANIC, AND MAKING
SURE THAT WE HAVE MEETING THOSE GOALS SO I DON'T GET CALLS,
WE DIDN'T GET NO WORK.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, WE TALK ABOUT THE RETAIL, MAKING SURE, HOW DO WE
KNOW WHAT KIND OF GOALS ARE SET, OR WHAT IS THE CITY PORTION
THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE IN THAT LOW INCOME BRACKET
TO BE ABLE TO MAYBE HAVE A SALON IN THAT RETAIL SPACE, TO BE
ABLE TO WORK THERE AS WELL?
14:06:12 >> SO EXCELLENT POINTS, AND TWO-FOLD.
WE HAVE MONITORED PROVISIONS IN THE AGREEMENT, SO WE WILL BE
DOING REGULAR MONITORING, REPORTING, TO THE CITY, AND THAT
REPORTING WILL BE BROUGHT FORTH THROUGH YOUR NORMAL CHANNELS
TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE COMMITMENTS.
SO THAT'S IN THE AGREEMENT.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
BUT ON YOUR SECOND POINT, WHICH IS AN EXCELLENT POINT, AND I
FORGOT TO TOUCH ON IT, WE HAVE AGREED ALSO TO SET ASIDE 10%
OF OUR RETAIL SPACE FOR LOCAL AREA BUSINESSES, AND THAT'S
ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT POINT THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
ADDRESS IN SOME OF OUR OTHER REDEVELOPMENTS, BECAUSE A LOT
OF TIMES YOU HEAR, SAY, WELL, WE HAVE 50,000 SQUARE FEET OF
RETAIL, AND THAT'S GREAT, THAT BRINGS JOBS AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WHAT HAPPENS, IT'S ALSO
DEPENDENT ON HOW YOU BREAK UP RETAIL, BECAUSE THAT 50,000
SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, AND I HAVE TWO TENANTS OF -- WE ARE
BRINGING A PUBLIX TO WEST RIVER, SO THAT'S A GREAT THING FOR
THE AREA.
BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT YOU JUST
RAISED ABOUT HAVING A LOCAL BUSINESS HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY
TO START THEIR BUSINESS.
SO WE ALWAYS WANT TO FOCUS ON SOME OF THAT PIECE AND HAVE
WHAT WE CALL MICRORETAIL, BECAUSE IF WE CAN BREAK THAT UP
INTO SMALLER PIECES, THEN IT'S AN AFFORDABLE RENT THAT
SOMEONE COULD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD START THEIR OWN BUSINESS
IN A NEW SPACE THAT'S MARKETABLE AND ALLOWS THEM TO GROW.
SO YES, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT'S IN OUR AGREEMENT, AND I
FORGOT TO TOUCH ON IT.
SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
14:07:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I APPRECIATE IT.
14:07:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS INFORMATION,
ESPECIALLY ON DIVERSITY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
COME ON BACK.
14:08:01 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
HE'S COMING BACK.
14:08:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HOWEVER, IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS
DIVERSITY IN HOUSING, DIVERSITY WHILE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING
ON.
AND I APPLAUD YOU AS BRINGING IN AS MANY BLACK OWNED
BUSINESSES, CONSTRUCTION BUSINESSES, BUT I WANT TO FOCUS ON
THE APPRENTICESHIP WHICH OUR COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA HAS
CHAMPIONED.
I AM HOPING YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S STATE
APPROVED APPRENTICESHIP, NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, AND I AM HOPING THAT WITHIN THAT APPRENTICESHIP
PROGRAM, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THE WMBEs, THE
BLACK-OWNED -- THE MINORITIES, YOU KNOW, AND THE SAME SCALE.
WITHIN THAT APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.
AND THIS IS JUST AN ASK BUT I AM HOPING IT WILL BE ACHIEVED
DURING THIS.
IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE DIVERSITY IN HOUSING, LET'S HOPE WE
HAVE DIVERSITY IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT IN ONE OF YOUR POWERPOINT
PRESENTATIONS YOU HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE
CHARGING STATIONS.
THANK YOU.
14:09:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN --
14:09:18 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
MAY I ANSWER JUST A QUESTION?
IN THE AGREEMENTS THAT'S BEFORE YOU THERE ARE A COUPLE OF
THINGS.
COUNCILMAN GUDES BROUGHT UP THE REPORTING OF MINORITY
PARTICIPATION, AND THE SET-ASIDE.
THOSE ARE CODIFIED IN THE AGREEMENTS THAT'S BEFORE YOU.
AND COUNCILMAN CITRO, AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THAT THE
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS
CODIFIED IN THE AGREEMENT AS WELL TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM, AND THAT'S BUILT INTO THE AGREEMENT.
AND JUST TO TOUCH, I THINK AT THE BEGINNING OF COUNCILMAN
GUDES' COMMENTS, IN THE AGREEMENT, AND THE SUBSEQUENT PLAN
THAT WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL, THERE ARE MILESTONES IN THE
COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THAT
AGREEMENT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ALL AT THE END OF THE PROJECT.
THEY ARE INCREMENTAL IN ORDER FOR THEM TO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER
PART OF THEIR PHASE.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
AGREEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO ACHIEVE AND COMPLETE BEFORE
MOVING ONTO THE OTHER PHASE.
SO WE HAVE BUILT IN THOSE CHECKS AND BALANCES THROUGHOUT THE
PROJECT, AND DETERMINING IF THE PLAN WILL COME BACK BEFORE
COUNCIL.
14:10:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
BUT I AM HOPING THAT LOOKING RIGHT NOW, I CAN SAY, ARE
THESE -- I AM HOPING THAT THESE ARE GOING TO BE
STATE-APPROVED APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS.
AND THOSE APPRENTICES WILL BE SPREAD OUT ACROSS THE SPECTRUM
OF DIVERSITY.
14:10:50 >> YES, SO THAT'S ANOTHER EXCELLENT POINT.
JUST AS I TOUCHED UPON EARLIER, WHEN WE INTRODUCED THIS
PROGRAM FOR THE FOLKS COMING OUT OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM, A LOT OF TIMES THE PROGRAM RULES ARE NOT SET UP TO
HELP THIS POPULATION.
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
BECAUSE MOST OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE UNSKILLED.
SO IN THE CASE OF HUD PROJECTS, YOU HAVE THESE RULES.
TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THOSE RULES,
WE WENT AND WE GOT OUR OWN STATE CERTIFIED BY THE STATE
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, RELATED
URBAN HAS ITS OWN SO WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK ALONGSIDE YOUR
PROGRAM TO, SO WE HAVE KIND OF CUT OUR TEETH, IF YOU WILL,
WITH SOME OF THE PITFALLS OF GETTING IT APPROVED, BUT WE
KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO DO IT.
AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT WORKS.
SO WE WILL DEFINITELY BE STATE CERTIFIED, BECAUSE IT'S NOT
JUST -- IT DOESN'T JUST HAVE AN ON-THE-JOB TRAINING PIECE.
THAT'S PART OF IT, WHERE THEY GET, YOU KNOW, THE INCOME
SIDE.
THERE'S ALSO A REQUIRED CLASSROOM COMPONENT.
SO AT THE END OF 3 OR 4-YEAR PERIOD, THEY HAVE A
CERTIFICATION.
AGAIN THAT'S WHY I SAY, WE DON'T REFERENCE THIS AS A JOB.
WE REFERENCE THIS AS A CAREER.
14:12:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
14:12:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
JUST TO PUT DOWN WHAT WE DISCUSSED A LITTLE EARLIER, YOU ARE
GOING TO HAVE TO 954 UNITS, IS THAT RIGHT, OF WHICH 185
UNITS ARE TO BE AT 50 PERCENT AMI AND WHICH 94 UNITS WILL BE
80% OF AMI AND WHICH 368 UNITS, 100% AMI.
954, THAT MEANS YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE 647 UNDER SOMEBODY
FORM OF AMI.
YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE, WHAT, 307 UNITS LEFT AT MARKET RATE,
I GUESS.
14:12:57 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
14:12:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALONG WITH THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE
ALMOST 30,000 FEET OF COMMERCIAL IN THE WHOLE UNIT.
AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE 3,761 FEET WHERE THE WEST TAMPA
CULTURAL CENTER.
AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE ROUGHLY 19,744 FEET OF SOME TYPE
OF COMMUNITY BENEFIT AREA.
AND ALONG WITH THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE -- COUNCIL WAS
DISCUSSING THE APPRENTICE PROGRAM WHICH IS NEEDED IN MANY
WAYS, AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE OUT OF THAT, YOU ARE GOING
TO HAVE REALLY 307 UNITS LEFT AT MARKET RATE.
THAT'S HOW I SUM THE PROGRAM UP.
IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 16, 135, THAT TALKS ABOUT THE RIVERWALK
AND SO FORTH.
YOU HAVE ANOTHER SEPARATE AGREEMENT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO
HAVE WITH THE CITY.
I CORRECT?
14:13:46 >> YES, SIR.
14:13:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT'S CORRECT.
I RESERVE MY TIME FOR LATER.
14:13:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:13:54 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU TO YOUR SISTER AND BROTHER
COMPANIES FOR ALL THE INVESTMENT YOU HAVE MADE IN TAMPA.
YOU ALL HAVE GOT A HUGE FOOTPRINT IN TAMPA NOW IN LOTS OF
DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGH ALL YOUR DIFFERENT COMPANIES.
THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND THANK YOU OBVIOUSLY FOR THE
INVESTMENT OF TIME YOU HAVE MADE, EVERYTHING YOU ARE TALKING
ABOUT NOW SHOWS YOU HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THE
COMMUNITY AND SOME DEVELOPERS WILL WALK IN AND KIND OF SAY
BULLIED THEM TO ACCEPTING, AND YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME, SO
WE ALL APPRECIATE THAT.
THANKS ALSO TO YOUR COLLEAGUES FOR INVESTING IN THE ARTS.
I KNOW YOU INVEST IN ARTS WHEREVER YOU GO.
YOU HAVEN'T MENTIONED THAT YET.
BUT ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD NOW, I KNOW THERE'S MORE TO COME.
I JUST HAD A CLARIFYING QUESTION.
WAS IT 128 MILLION YOU MENTIONED?
THAT'S THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE, OR
THAT'S THE 12.5% OVER 99 YEARS?
14:14:48 >> THAT'S THE 12.5%.
THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT IS GOING TO EXCEED $400 MILLION.
AT THE TIME OF THE RFP IT WAS 390 MILLION, THE COST COSTS
HAVE INCREASED A LOT SO IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN EXCESS,
PROBABLY AT THIS POINT, IN EXCESS OF 500 MILLION IN ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT, AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
BUT OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT, THE 12.5% CASH FLOW
COMPONENT IS PROBABLY GOING TO EXCEED $120 MILLION.
ONCE THE PROJECT IS ALL BUILT OUT.
14:15:18 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE YOU THROWING OUT THAT NUMBER.
AND SOUNDS LIKE FROM THE OTHER RFPs YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE
THAT OFFERED THAT SO THAT WILL HELP THE CITY TO DO MANY
OTHER THINGS.
ARE THERE ANY PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS INCLUDED IN THIS, OR
ARE YOU ALL GOING TO BE PAYING PROPERTY TAX?
14:15:37 >> THAT'S JUST CASH FLOW PARTICIPATION.
TAX IS IN ADDITION.
14:15:41 >>BILL CARLSON:
SO IN THE 400 MILLION INVESTMENT, WE DON'T
KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTY VALUE WILL BE WORTH, BUT ARE YOU GUYS
GOING TO PAY AD VALOREM ON THE ENTIRE PROPERTY?
14:15:51 >> IN A TYPICAL GROUND LEASE SCENARIO, THERE WILL BE EXEMPT
BECAUSE IT'S STILL GOING TO BE --
14:15:59 >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M SORRY, I FORGOT.
THANK YOU.
14:16:02 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WANTED TO ECHO ALSO WHAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES SAID IN
TERMS MUCH JUST HOW HAPPY AND CONTENT THE CITY IS TO BE
PARTNERING UP WITH RELATED AND ALL YOUR BROTHER AND SISTER
GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS.
YOU KNOW, THE VISION THAT YOU PUT FORWARD, I THINK IT REALLY
SPEAKS TO THE ECONOMIC ANXIETY AND DISLOCATION THAT WE HAVE
SEEN IN TAMPA, IN FLORIDA, THROUGHOUT MUCH OF THE UNITED
STATES THROUGHOUT THE MUCH FEW YEARS STARTING WITH COVID AND
THEN THE AFTERMATH OF COVID.
WE ARE SEEING NUMBERS OF LOCALLY, AND IN FLORIDA AND
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THAT WILL BE FORMALLY WHAT I CALL AN
ATTACK ON THOSE WHO WANT TO STAY IN THE MIDDLE CLASS, AN
ATTACK ON THOSE WHO ARE WORKING HARD EVERY DAY TO BE GET
THEIR FAMILIES INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS AND INTO THE WORKING
CLASS, ET CETERA, WHETHER IT'S INFLATION THAT'S 8%
NATIONALLY, ABOUT 10 OR 11% IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA, 27% IN
INCREASE IN RENT OVER THE LAST YEAR, GAS PRICES AT 4 OR $5
AN HOUR.
FAMILIES ARE FINDING IT HARDER AND HARDER TO GET BY.
BUT HOUSE, WHEN WE SAY THAT HOUSING IS A RIGHT, I ALWAYS
TELL PEOPLE THAT'S NOT SOME RADICAL POLITICAL SLOGAN.
WE SAY THAT COMES OUT OF GEORGE BAILEY AND IT'S A WONDERFUL
LIFE.
THE BUILDING ALONE THAT SAYS IF YOU WORK HARD AND YOU ARE
RAISING A FAMILY AND YOU ARE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND
GET UP EVERY DAY AND GO TO WORK AND PUNCH THE CLOCK AND GO
NINE TO FIVE AND COME HOME TO RAISE YOUR KIDS EVERY DAY,
THAT YOU DESERVE A GOOD HOUSE, IN A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE
YOU CAN RAISE YOUR FAMILY.
AND THIS PROJECT DOES THAT, NOT ONLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE
WORKING HARD TO GET INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS, WORKING CLASS
PEOPLE, LOWER-INCOME FOLKS WHO ARE WORKING HARD EVERY DAY
AND TAKING THOSE HITS, BUT TO OUR MIDDLE CLASS AS WELL, FOR
WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.
WE ASK A LOT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA Y.DON'T OUR POLICE
OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?
YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.
YOU START OFF EARNING 50, $60,000, GOOD LUCK LIVING IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA AND IT'S GETTING WORSE.
IT'S GETTING WORSE.
IF YOU LEARN $75,000, YOUR HOUSEHOLD DOES, I WAS TALKING TO
THE APARTMENT FOLKS, SAYING THAT THE AVERAGE APARTMENT IS
GOING FOR I THINK IT WAS TWO BEDROOM ABOUT $1800, ABOUT 30%
OF YOUR GROSS INCOME BEFORE TAXES, BEFORE CHILD CARE, BEFORE
HEALTH CARE, AND BEFORE GOD KNOWS WHAT.
SO THOSE NUMBERS REALLY COME TOGETHER TO FORM AGAIN AN
ATTACK ON THOSE WHO WANT TO STAY IN THE MIDDLE CLASS AND
ATTACK ON THOSE FIGHTING HARD TO GET INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT ALSO I THINK SPEAKS OF THE TAMPA
EXPERIENCE.
YOU ALL HAVE -- DO A LOT OF WORK IN MIAMI.
I HAVE FAMILY IN MIAMI.
AND WE IN A WAY LIKE MIAMI, WE ARE A CITY OF IMMIGRANTS, A
CITY OF REFUGEES.
I THEM ABOUT MY FAMILY WHEN I CAME HERE, MY DAD CAME TO
TAMPA IN 1960 FROM CUBA, MY MOM CAME TO MIAMI IN 1960, AND
WE HAD NOTHING.
WE HAD NOTHING.
BUT IT WAS PROGRAMS AND EFFORTS, THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THINGS
IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, STATE AND LOCAL AND FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, COMBINED WITH OUR HARD WORK, THAT WOULD MEET US
HALFWAY THERE, TO GET US TO WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY.
SO I GUESS MY SUMMARY IS THAT PROJECTS LIKE THIS ARE SUCH
WONDERFUL PUBLIC PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERSHIPS THAT HELP
PEOPLE ACHIEVE THE AMERICAN DREAM.
AND WE ARE A CITY OF THE AMERICAN DREAM.
SO I THINK TO ME THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I SEE THIS PROJECT ON
A LARGER LEVEL.
SO JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND YOUR
PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU.
14:19:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PETER?
14:19:38 >> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS I DID WANT TO INTRODUCE
PETER, WHO HAS BEEN HANDLING ALL OF THE COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENTS.
14:19:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD, SIR.
14:19:49 >> MY NAME IS PETER VAN WARNER, A LOCAL HERE.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
I WANTED TO ASK YOU ALL, WHY THE DEVELOPERS GET A BAD RAP?
IT'S BECAUSE IN MY OPINION THEY JUST DON'T CARE.
EITHER THEY DON'T CARE, THEY COME IN, THEY DEVELOP, RAISE
WHAT WAS THERE AND IGNORE THE HISTORY, IGNORE THE PEOPLE,
IGNORE THE COMMUNITY.
I CAN TELL YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY, I CARE.
IT STARTS WITH ALBERT CARING.
THAT'S WHY THE COMPANY AND THE ENTIRE TEAM CARES.
WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, OUTREACH EVENTS, THEY
WANTED AN OBSERVATION TOWER WITH BRICK TO BE INDICATIVE OF
THE OLD CIGAR TOWERS IN WEST TAMPA.
WE HAVE A CIGAR TOWER.
WE CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.
WE ARE DOING LEED SILVER.
ALL THE ARCHITECTS HATE MOW BECAUSE I AM REDESIGNING ALL THE
OLD OAK TREES.
WE REALLY CARE.
I THINK YOU WILL SEE THAT'S VERY PLEASANT.
I INVITE ANY OF YOU TO COME OUT AND VISIT WEST RIVER.
I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN THERE, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
BUT LOOK AT SOME OF THESE RESIDENTS WHEN THEY WALK BACK INTO
THEIR UNITS, COMPLETELY REDONE.
THAT'S WHY I WORK WITH THIS COMPANY.
I CAN TELL YOU WITH ALL MY HEART REALLY, REALLY CARE.
WE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM THAT REALLY CARES.
AND WE ARE READY FOR IT SO WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT.
14:21:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
YES, SIR.
14:21:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WAS THERE FOR RIBBON CUTTING, AND IT WAS
VERY IMPRESSIVE, GENTLEMEN.
AND DON'T HAVE TO CARRY YOUR CLOTHES TO THE LAUNDROMAT.
YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT THAT.
YOU CAN'T TELL WHAT APARTMENT BECAUSE THEY ALL LOOK SO NICE.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU MAKE.
IT'S THE SAME AMENITIES AS I AM.
WE ARE ALL LIVING IN A PLACE THAT'S NICE AND COMFORTABLE.
SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT.
I AM GLAD THAT YOU TALK ABOUT THE STATE APPRENTICESHIP
PROGRAMS.
I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE A PROGRAM THAT MIRRORS THAT BECAUSE A
LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE CAN'T MEET THAT THRESHOLD EITHER.
SO IT'S LIKE ANYTHING, YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE A FILLER FOR
EACH PROJECT SO I AM GLAD YOU HAVE THAT FEELING TO WHERE WE
WILL BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE ON THE JOB AND BE ABLE TO GET
THEM TRAINED AND HAVE A SKILL AT THE END OF THE DAY SO I AM
GLAD THAT WE HAVE A SECONDARY PROGRAM THAT CAN ALSO HELP AND
MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE AND ANY OTHERS CAN BE PART OF THE
PROJECT, BE ABLE TO EAT, AND APPLY FOR SHELTER THEMSELVES
BECAUSE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE SHELTER THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE
ISSUES AND PROBLEMS IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO I AM GLAD YOU ARE DOING THAT.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
14:22:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
AND I THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE COVERED ALL THE BASES.
AND MOST OF THE BASES, THE BIGGEST CRISIS THAT WE ARE FACING
IS HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, AND YOU ARE COMING IN NOT AT 50
YEARS, YOU ARE COMING IN AT DIFFERENT LEVELS THAT
ACCOMMODATE DIFFERENT INCOMES.
AND WE ARE IN SUCH DEMAND RIGHT NOW AND PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE
WITHIN THE CITY, AND THIS IS IN THE CENTER OR CENTRALLY
LOCATED AND THEY LIVE WITH DIGNITY.
I KNOW THE PRODUCTS THAT YOU PUT OUT AND CONSTRUCT, THEY ARE
HARD QUALITY, THE EFFORTS YOU PUT INTO COMMUNITY OUTREACH,
LISTENING TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.
YOU ARE NOT COMING IN AND GENTRIFYING AND LIKE YOU SAID WHY
DO DEVELOPERS GET A BAD WRAP?
BECAUSE THEY COME IN AND DO WHAT THEY WANT, AT LEAST THE
PERCEPTION TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
YOU ARE COMING IN WITH CARE.
YOU ARE COMING IN LOOKING AT THE DETAILS, LISTENING TO THE
PEOPLE, LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC.
AND COUNCILMAN MEMBER GUDES SAID IT, YOU GO OUT THERE AND
YOU ARE IMPRESSED.
COUNCILMAN VIERA TALKED ABOUT HIS FAMILY COMING HERE FROM
CUBA.
YOU KNOW, COMING WITH NOTHING.
THE SAME STORY WITH MY MOTHER AND MY GRANDPARENTS CAME FROM
CUBA 60 YEARS AGO WITH NOTHING, AND BECAUSE THEY WERE
AFFORDED CERTAIN OPPORTUNITIES AND WHATEVER, WHATNOT, THEY
BUILT THEMSELVES UP.
TAMPA IS GROWING.
MIAMI IS A DIFFERENT STORY.
I GET ANXIETY GETTING OFF I-95 GOING INTO DOWNTOWN BECAUSE
AT LEAST HERE I CAN PULL INTO DOWNTOWN AND FIND A PARKING
SPACE.
THERE, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT LAST TIME I WAS IN MIAMI WAS THERE FOR TWO HOURS AND I
CAME AROUND AND CAME BACK.
I DID WHAT I HAD TO DO.
14:24:03 >> SO NEXT TIME GIVE ME A CALL AND I WILL MAKE SURE YOUR
ANXIETY LEVEL IS --
[ LAUGHTER ]
14:24:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BUT I THINK IT'S A WORTHY PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE AREA WELL.
I DRIVE THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME.
I HAVE MY WHOLE LIFE.
IF THIS DOESN'T GO THROUGH, THEN WHAT IS GOING TO TAKE ITS
PLACE?
I UNDERSTAND HOW THE RFP WAS DONE, HOW THE BID WAS DONE, WHY
YOU WERE CHOSEN, HOW CRA DOLLARS WERE NOT ASKED FOR, YOU
CAME IN AND PUT YOUR INVESTMENT AND WHATNOT.
I LIKE THAT AS A 99 YEAR LEASE.
I'M YOUNG BUT I AM NOT GOING TO BE LIVING TO SEE THE END OF
THAT LEASE.
BUT 99 YEAR LEASE WHERE IT IS A TRUE PUBLIC-PRIVATE
PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE IT WILL BE AND WILL STAY
GOVERNMENT-OWNED LAND, WHILE YOU ARE GENERATING YOUR INCOME
BECAUSE YOU ARE HERE TO MAKE MONEY, TOO, BUT AT THE SAME
TIME WE RETAIN OWNERSHIP.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
IT'S ALMOST A THOUSAND RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 954, AND 687 WILL
BE INCOME RESTRICTED.
AND WE HAVE A BACKLOG OF INDIVIDUALS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LOOKING FOR HOUSING, DIFFERENT INCOMES,
EVERYTHING IS EXPENSIVE, AND YOU ARE OFFERING THAT CLOSE TO
EVERYTHING, TO THE AMENITIES THAT PEOPLE WANT ALONG THE
RIVER, NEAR THE RIVERWALK, NEAR DOWNTOWN, ON AND ON AND ON.
I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT.
14:25:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST LISTENED TO ALL THE STORIES AND
ALL OF US HAVE BASICALLY THE SAME BACKGROUND.
IN THIS AUDIENCE TODAY CAME FROM SOMEWHERE THAT WAS NOWHERE
50 OR 100 YEARS AGO.
SO ALL OF US SOMEHOW GOT TO THIS POINT.
AND I WAS FORTUNATE THAT I WAS RAISED IN THE CONDOMINIUMS,
BEFORE THE WORD WAS INVENTED.
I COME FROM TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
SO I CONSIDERED CONDOMINIUM, THE WORD WASN'T INVENTED AT
THAT TIME, BUT IT WAS NICE.
I HAD A LOT OF FRIEND.
I HAD A LOT OF KIDS TO PLAY WITH.
AND I HAD A MOTHER AND FATHER THAT TAUGHT ME RIGHT FROM
WRONG, OR MAKE BELIEVE I KNEW ALL THAT.
BUT I WOULD SAY, YES, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
I WAS AN E STUDENT AND MY MOTHER SAID, WHAT IS THIS ABOUT?
AND I SAID EXCELLENTE.
SHE THOUGHT I WAS A GENIUS.
BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE.
AND TAMPA IS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO BE.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
I WANT TO THANK YOU, I DO ANYWAY, I'M SURE THE BOARD, I
DON'T KNOW HOW THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE, BUT OF THE THREE THAT
WERE THE FINALISTS YOURS WAS FAR AND ABOVE THE ONE THAT SAT
DOWN AND OFFERED AMENITIES THAT NONE OF THE OTHERS WOULD
EVEN TAKE.
I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
14:26:28 >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST ANOTHER CLARIFYING YES QUESTIONING AND
MAYBE MORRIS IN LEGAL OR SOMEBODY CAN ANSWER THIS.
I HAVEN'T STUDIED THIS ISSUE BUT I KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY
APPRAISERS HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH LEASES ON PUBLIC
LAND, LIKE IN THE AIRPORT PORT, ABOUT WHETHER PEOPLE HAVE TO
PAY PROPERTY TAX WHEN THEY HAVE LONG-TERM LEASES.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE LAW SPECIFICALLY SAYS ABOUT A CITY
LEASING PROPERTY WITH IMPROVEMENTS ON IT?
14:26:55 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
YES.
THE ONLY -- ONLY THE STATE AND COUNTY ARE REALLY EXEMPT FOR
PROPERTY TAXES FOR NONGOVERNMENTAL USES.
SO EVEN IF THE CITY -- FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE A JEWELRY SHOP
IN THE PUBLIC BUILDING, TAXES HAVE TO BE PAID OH ON THAT.
SO THERE WILL BE PROPERTY TAXES.
THAT'S CORRECT.
14:27:16 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
14:27:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF THERE IS NO OTHER FURTHER
QUESTION --
14:27:21 >> MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
14:27:23 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SAY ONE THING FIRST, PLEASE?
14:27:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
14:27:26 >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS WAS -- I BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS
IMPROPERLY NOTICED THIS MORNING, THAT WAS PUT ON THE CONSENT
AGENDA, AND BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE -- IT'S $120 MILLION
CONTRACT PLUS ANOTHER 5 MILLION OR SO.
BUT THE PUBLIC DID NOT HAVE A PROPER CHANCE TO REVIEW THIS
OR LOOK AT IT.
MY COLLEAGUES WILL REMEMBER A FEW MONTHS AGO WE APPROVED THE
HANNA AVENUE PROJECT, WHICH WE THOUGHT IN GOOD FAITH WAS
GOING TO GO FORWARD, NO PROBLEMS.
TWO WEEKS LATER THE PUBLIC CAME BEFORE US AND SAID THAT HAD
THEY BEEN AWARE OF IT THEY WOULD HAVE COME BACK AND GIVEN US
SOME FEEDBACK, AND THAT RESULTED IN US TRYING TO REVOKE THE
CONTRACT OR RESCIND THE CONTRACT AND THEN WE HAD ALL KIND OF
LEGAL PROBLEMS.
ONCE WE IMPROVE THIS, IT'S A DONE DEAL.
WE CAN'T UNDO IT.
MY SUGGESTION AND MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT WE CONTINUE THE
VOTE ON THIS UNTIL MAY 19th TO GIVE THE PUBLIC ONE MORE
CHANCE TO GIVE US FEEDBACK BEFORE WE APPROVE IT AGAIN.
14:28:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMEMBER CITRO --
14:28:28 >>BILL CARLSON:
SO I MADE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE VOTE ON
THIS UNTIL MAY 19th TO GIVE THE PUBLIC A SECOND CHANCE
TO GIVE PUBLIC FEEDBACK ON IT.
20 AND 21, YES.
14:28:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
14:28:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
BEFORE I GET INTO DEEP WITH THIS.
MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE SAYING THAT THIS WAS NOT PROPERLY
NOTICED TO THE PUBLIC?
14:28:55 >>BILL CARLSON:
IT WHATS NOT NOTICED AS A REGULAR AGENDA
ITEM RATHER THAN A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.
A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM SHOULD BE LESS THAN 3 MILLION.
THIS IS ABOUT $125 MILLION PLUS OR MINUS CONTRACT THAT
SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON A SEPARATE SECTION, HAD IT BEEN IN A
SECTION THAT REQUIRES LARGE ITEMS, IT'S POSSIBLE MORE PEOPLE
IN THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE SHOWN UP.
WE SAW IN THE HANNA AVENUE CASE THAT WE THOUGHT WE HAD
COMPLETE INFORMATION, BUT TWO WEEKS LATER THE PUBLIC CAME TO
US AND SAID THERE WERE ALL KIND OF CONCERNS ABOUT IT.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS NOT TO VOTE AGAINST THIS, BUT TO JUST
CONTINUE THE VOTE ON IT FOR A COUPLE WEEKS, JUST SO WE GET
ONE MORE CHANCE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SHOW UP. IF NOBODY SHOWS
UP THEN WE VOTE ON IT AND MOVE FORWARD.
14:29:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. SHELBY, ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE OR OUT OF
COMPLIANCE FOR THIS BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A VOTE TODAY?
14:29:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU ARE IN COMPLIANCE.
THIS MEETING WAS PROPERLY NOTICED.
IT WAS ON THE AGENDA.
BACKUP MATERIALS SUCH AS IT IS WAS AVAILABLE.
AND YOU DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE.
COUNCILMAN MEMBER CARLSON IS CORRECT, AND THAT DID COME UP
RECENTLY WITH A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC
ABOUT, THAT PURCHASE SUPERINTENDENT TO THE CHARTER, YOU
AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE CONTRACT.
AND THE MAYOR SIGNS THE CONTRACT.
IT IS THEN THE CONTRACT THAT CONTROLS.
THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE JURISDICTION, LET'S SAY, OVER
THE MATTER TO RECONSIDER.
SO WITH REGARD TO ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE CONSENT DOCKET THAT
REQUIRES THE MAYOR SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL BY RESOLUTION, ONCE
YOU GIVE IT, THEN ONCE THAT CONTRACT IS SIGNED, YOU ARE
EFFECTIVELY, I GUESS, THE WORD WOULD BE HE IS STOPPED TO
PREVENT CITY COUNCIL FROM DOING ANYTHING.
14:30:34 >>BILL CARLSON:
SO THIS HAS GONE ON FOR MORE THAN A YEAR OF
DISCUSSION SINCE THE RFP WAS APPROVED, EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T
APPROVE IT.
BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT DOESN'T HURT ANYTHING TO WAIT TWO
MORE WEEKS TO SEE IF THE PUBLIC HAS ANY MORE FEEDBACK ON IT
BECAUSE I THINK MOST PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC AREN'T EVEN AWARE
WE COVERED IT.
THERE'S BEEN NO MEDIA COVERAGE.
14:30:56 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
IT WAS NOTICED.
IT WAS PROPERLY NOTICED.
AND YOU ALL CAN ACT ON IT TODAY LEGALLY IN MY OPINION, AND I
THINK MR. SHELBY SUPPORTS THAT.
RELATIVE TO WHETHER IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER THE STAFF
REPORTS INITIALLY OR NOT, TYPICALLY, UNDER ONE OF YOUR
MOTION, IF THE CITY IS PAYING MORE THAN $3 MILLION, IT'S
SUPPOSED TO BE UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
PART OF THE ISSUE HERE IS WE ARE NOT PAYING ANYTHING.
WE ARE RECEIVING MONEY.
AND IT'S HARD TO ESTIMATE WHAT THAT AMOUNT WAS, FRANKLY.
THE STAFF, A ADMINISTRATION ITSELF, DECIDED TO PULL IT OFF
OF THE CONSENT AGENDA SO IT WOULD BE PUT UNDER STAFF REPORTS
SO YOU COULD HAVE A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MATTER.
SO THAT WAS DONE BY THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE.
I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
AND I KNOW YOU HAD PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING, RELEVANT TO
COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S POINT.
THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO
ADDRESS YOU ALL SO IF YOU WANT TO --
14:31:54 >>> MOTION TO WAIVE THE RULES FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR?
MR. EDWARD.
14:32:02 >> THANK YOU.
THE INVITATION WAS WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK THIS AFTERNOON.
ROBERT PETE EDWARD.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO CONTINUE THIS.
THEY NEED TO REWORK SOME OF THE AGREEMENT.
LET ME GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE.
IF YOU REMEMBER IN THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, THEY HAD
TALKED ABOUT THE WEST END PROJECT, EVEN TALKED ABOUT OPENING
UP ALL THE WAY TO THE ROAD.
BUT -- ALL THE WAY TO THE END, THAT THE PREVIOUS
ADMINISTRATION HAD TOOK THE LEAD OVER THE SCHOOL BOARD
RESPONSIBILITY TO SELL ALL THE SCHOOLS OFF THE RIVER, AND IT
FINALLY CAME OUT, VERIFIED IN THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES" AND THE
TAMPA TRIBUNE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AGREEMENT THIS MORNING, THIS
AFTERNOON, IT TALKS ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES, WHICH INCLUDE THE
SCHOOLS NORTH OF THE RIVER.
AND I FIND IT INTERESTING, AND THE CITY -- IT KIND OF THREW
EVERYBODY FOR A LOOP WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT THE SCHOOLS.
SO I ASKED A LAWYER FRIEND OF MINE TO TELL ME WHAT WOULD
STOP THE CITY FROM, IF THEY ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH
THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE COUNTY, TO EXPAND THE SCHOOLS, IF
THEY OBTAINED THE PROPERTY OR WHATEVER, WOULD THEY HAVE TO
COME BACK TO THE PUBLIC AND GET ANOTHER, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND THEN THE QUESTION I HAVE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, HAVE
THEY HAD ANY DISCUSSION WITH THE OTHER TWO GOVERNMENT
ENTITIES, SO WE WON'T BE EMBARRASSED LIKE WE WERE THE LAST
TIME TO FIND OUT THAT WE HAD THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION,
AND IT'S ON RECORD THAT THEY FINALLY ADD MATED THAT THEY
WERE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE TO SELL ALL THREE SCHOOLS OFF THE
RIVER WITHOUT TELLING ANYBODY, INCLUDING SCHOOL BOARD
MEMBERS.
SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY -- I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF
DEVELOPER, HAVE YOU ALL HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS TO EXPAND THIS AGREEMENT SO TRANSFER OF PROPERTY
WITHOUT COMING BACK?
NOW THAT'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION.
14:34:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. MASSEY?
14:34:05 >> AND SECOND OF ALL, IF YOU HAD A DISCUSSION, OR IF YOU
WOULD HAVE A LATER DISCUSSION, WOULD COUNCIL BE IN A
POSITION TO CONTROL, OR ONCE THEY VOTE ON A RESOLUTION
TODAY, YOU COME BACK AND SAY APPLY TO LEGAL WE CAN DO
WHATEVER WE WANT TO NOW BECAUSE OF THE BALANCE?
14:34:21 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I WILL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THOSE.
THIS AGREEMENT APPLIES ONLY TO THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
IT US WHAT NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE SCHOOLS.
THERE THERE'S BEEN NO DISCUSSION ABOUT INCLUDING THE SCHOOLS
IN THIS AGREEMENT.
AT POLICE SOLELY TO THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
AND IF THERE IS ANY FUTURE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD INVOLVE THE
SCHOOLS IN THE VICINITY OF THIS PROJECT, THAT WOULD HAVE TO
COME BACK BEFORE THIS BODY FOR APPROVAL.
IT CANNOT BE DONE UNILATERALLY WITHOUT BECOMING TO THE
BOARD.
14:34:47 >> THEN CHANGE THE AGREEMENT TO REFLECT THAT NO SUCH TIME IS
THIS INCLUSIVE OF OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES THAT ARE NORTH
OF SPRUCE.
THAT'S THE RIGHT WAIT TO DO IT.
14:34:58 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THE AGREEMENT IS SOLELY BETWEEN THE
DEVELOPER AND SO WE CANNOT BIND OTHER GOVERNMENTAL BODIES
WITHOUT THEIR APPROVAL.
THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE DOCUMENT WHICH
IS CONTROLLING IS THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPERTY THE
CITY OWNS ONLY.
14:35:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:35:14 >> TRUST IN ALL THAT.
SO WHY WOULDN'T THEY DO THAT JUST IN THE BEST INTEREST OF
UNITING THIS COMMUNITY AND MOVING FORWARD?
I AM NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT.
THE QUESTION I HAVE IS THE WAY THEY DID IT UNDER THE
PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, A LOT OF COUNCIL DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT
IT, THEY DENIED IT.
IT THEY DENIED IT TILL THE END OF THE LAST MEETING FIGURED
OUT WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH RIVERFRONT PARK.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HIDE JUST PUT IN THE THERE AND
THEN THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THIS COMMUNITY GOES FORWARD,
WE DON'T NEED THE LEGAL JARGON.
HOW ABOUT DOING IT IN THE COMMON SPIRIT AND COUNCILMAN
SENSE?
14:35:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:35:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I GUESS THIS WILL GO TO MS. TRAVIS AND TO
ALBERT.
ARE WE IN A TIME CRUNCH?
I NEED TO KNOW THAT, BECAUSE IF TWO WEEKS DELAY TO JUST MAKE
SURE -- WE HAD SO MUCH CHAOS WITH OTHER PROJECTS RECENTLY.
I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION, I LIKE THE PROJECT AND I
HAVE GOT TO SIT BACK AND WAIT -- I WOULD RATHER, IF WE NEED
TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS OPEN AND
TRANSPARENT, THEN LET'S DO THAT.
BUT ARE WE IN A TIME CONSTRAINT, OR WILL IT -- MAKE SURE WE
DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
14:36:30 >> AND LET ME ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.
THE ANSWER IS YES, TWO WEEKS WILL HURT.
AND I WILL GIVE YOU AN APPROPRIATE EXAMPLE.
WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR PHONES NOW AND YOU GOOGLE AND YOUR
TREASURY BILL IN MARCH YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THAT THE TEN
YEAR TREASURY HAS MOVED OVER 100 POINTS WHICH DIRECTLY
AFFECTS INTEREST RATES.
IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN APRIL, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THAT IT'S
MOVED MORE THAN HALF A POINT.
SO THAT'S AN UNPRECEDENTED INCREASE IN RATES.
AND FOR ANYONE TO THINK THAT RATES DON'T HAVE A DIRECT
CORRELATION TO IMPACTING PROJECTS IS NAIVE.
SO THE ANSWER IS, ABSOLUTELY, YES, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
YOU HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC EARLIER ABOUT RENT INCREASES,
INTEREST RATES CONTINUE TO RISE, CONSTRUCTION COSTS CONTINUE
TO RISE.
SO DEFINITELY TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
14:37:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MASSEY, TO MR. EDWARDS' QUESTIONS, TO
HIS POINT, COULD THAT BE ACCOMPLISHED WHAT HE'S TALKING
ABOUT OR IS IT BACK TO YOUR POINT, YOU JUST CAN'T DO THAT?
14:37:42 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I CAN TELL YOU WITHOUT EQUIVOCATION THAT
THIS AGREEMENT APPLIES SOLELY TO THE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY.
IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE SCHOOLS.
FANNED THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY AGREEMENT THAT AFFECT THE
SCHOOLS ADJACENT OR NEARBY TO THIS PROJECT, IT HAS TO COME
BEFORE THIS BODY.
WE CANNOT FIND THE SCHOOL BOARD.
WE CANNOT BIND THE COUNTY.
WE CANNOT COMBINED ANY GOVERNMENTAL ENTICE OR ANY OTHER
ENTITY WHO IS NOT PARTY TO THE AGREEMENT.
THE SOLE PARTIES ARE RUDG-LLC, CITY OF TAMPA, AND BOTH
AGREEMENTS ARE THE PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF
TAMPA AND NO OTHER PROPERTY.
AND I WILL SWEAR ON A STACK OF BIBLES.
14:38:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO GOVERNMENT CAN BIND ANOTHER
GOVERNMENT WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF ANYBODY, PERIOD, ONE WAY OR
THE OTHER.
AND, YOU KNOW, I AM NOT THE SMARTEST GUY OR THE SHARPEST
KNIFE IN THE DRAWER, BUT I AM NOT WAITING ANOTHER DAY.
I KNOW WHAT MONEY COSTS.
I KNOW WHAT THINKS COST.
I KNOW WHAT A TWO BY FOUR COST YEARS AGO.
AND IT'S TEN TIMES THE AMOUNT.
I AM NOT USING THAT AS AN EXCUSE.
THIS IS ON THE AGENDA, WHETHER IT'S ON PAGE 5 OR PAGE 6.
9 WAS THERE.
WHETHER IT WAS IN ONE AREA OR THE OTHER AREA, THIS COUNCIL
HAD A VOTE ON IT NO MATTER WHICH AREA IT WAS IN, WHETHER IN
A, B OR C.
SO LET'S CLEAR THAT OUT.
WE GOT ELECTED TO VOTE.
IF YOU WANT TO SAY I DID SOMETHING WRONG, COME SEE ME V.THE
FBI, CIA, ANYBODY COME SEE ME, BECAUSE I AM NOT AFRAID
BECAUSE I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG.
SO LET ME CLEAR THAT OUT ALSO.
I NEVER GOT A CONTRIBUTION OR ASKED FOR CONTRIBUTION FROM
ANYBODY HERE.
NEVER.
AND I DON'T INTEND TO EVER TO DO THAT.
SO I AM NOT DOING IT FOR ANYTHING IN MY BENEFIT.
I AM BORN ALONE.
I DIE ALONE.
AND I AM GOING TO VOTE ALONE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
14:39:45 >>BILL CARLSON:
MY MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR.
CAN WE JUST RECORD WHETHER I GOT A SECOND OR NOT?
14:39:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION TO
CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO MAY 19th?
IS THERE A SECOND NOW?
14:39:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WILL GIVE YOU A SECOND.
14:40:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION.
MAY.
14:40:06 >>CHAIRMAN:
MAY I COMMENT ON IT SINCE WE ARE GOING TO VOTE?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NUMBER ONE, THIS WAS NOTICED.
I HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME, AS
LONG AS I THINK EVERYONE ELSE HAS, AND IF THERE IS, BECAUSE
YOU KNOW HANNA WAS BROUGHT UP. IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT
IS KNOWN, RIGHT?
THEN WE SHOULD PROBABLY SAY HERE TODAY.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE ARE SAYING WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER
SIMILAR ISSUE TO COME UP LIKE HANNA, IF THERE IS SOMETHING
THAT'S KNOWN, WE SHOULD ALL KNOW ABOUT IT RIGHT HERE TODAY.
TO THE EXTENT THAT -- AND AGAIN I APPRECIATE AND RESPECT
COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION, BUT I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY
BE BAD FOR US TO HAVE EVERYONE HERE.
WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION AND GO, HEY, LISTEN, LET'S WAIT
ANOTHER TWO WEEKS, BECAUSE IT WAS A BAD EXPERIENCE SOME TIME
AGO.
I JUST RESPECTFULLY CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.
AND I DO MEAN RESPECTFULLY.
THANK YOU.
14:40:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
14:41:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
14:41:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL.
14:41:04 >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
14:41:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NO.
14:41:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
14:41:09 >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
14:41:11 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
14:41:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
14:41:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
14:41:16 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION FAILED WITH MANISCALCO, VIERA, CITRO,
MIRANDA, HURTAK AND GOODS VOTING NO.
14:41:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CITRO HAS MOVED THE
SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
14:41:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT WAS MY COMMITTEE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IT.
14:41:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
14:41:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I MOVE ITEM NUMBER 20, SUBSTITUTE
MOTION, AND DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT?
14:41:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
14:41:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS
CROSSED.
SO I JUST MOVED THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20.
14:41:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND BY CITRO.
14:41:47 >>BILL CARLSON:
THE PROJECT SOUND GREAT.
I AM VOTING AGAINST IT BECAUSE I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS MORE
TIME TO -- IT WILL PROBABLY ARE A 6-1 VOTE BUT I THINK THE
PUBLIC NEEDS MORE TIME TO WEIGH IN AND WE NEED MORE TIME,
AND TWO WEEKS A YEAR AND A MONTH OF WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD TWO MORE WEEKS TO BE LOOK AT
IT, AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTICED IN A MORE
TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE WAY, AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
SO I AM JUST GOING TO VOTE NO FOR THAT REASON, NOT BECAUSE I
AGAINST THE PROJECT.
14:42:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:42:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I UNDERSTAND MR. CARLSON'S POINT.
ISM GOING TO VOTE YES ON THE PROJECT.
BUT I THINK GOING FORWARD, THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO LOOK AT THE
RFP PROCESS, AND MAYBE COUNCIL NEEDS TO CHANGE THE PROCESS
SO WE DON'T GO DOWN THESE ROADS, WE ARE GETTING SOME LARGE
PROJECTS NOW, PUBLIC IS ASKING SOME QUESTIONS.
I THINK FOR TRANSPARENCY IN THE FUTURE WE NEED TO LOOK TO
MAYBE CHANGE THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD.
BUT I WILL VOTE ON THE PROJECT FOR TODAY.
14:42:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
14:42:57 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AGREE, IT SOUND LIKE A BETTER PROCESS FOR
THESE LARGER PROJECTS THAT HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST FROM THE
PUBLIC.
BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHERE EVERYONE IS COMING FROM, AND HOW
LONG THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN WORKED ON, AND I UNDERSTAND THE
MONEY, SERIOUSNESS.
IT DOES SOUND LIKE A GOOD PROJECT, BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT
THE PUBLIC DIDN'T GET AS MUCH OF A VOICE AS THEY MIGHT HAVE.
SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
BUT IT SOUND LIKE A GREAT PROJECT.
14:43:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND THE BID WAS CHOSEN, YOU WERE CHOSEN FOR THE REASONS YOU
HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.
I THINK OUT WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE OTHER BIDDERS.
I THINK YOU WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
JUST THE NUMBERS IN ITSELF OF WHAT'S AFFORDABLE AND WHAT'S
MARKET RATE, ESPECIALLY IN THIS CLIMATE, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING
FOR AFFORDABLE, EVERY DAY THAT CONVERSATION IS ABOUT
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HERE IN THE CENTER OF THE CITY, THE
ENITIES, THE QUALITY OF CONSTRUCTION, QUALITY OF LIVE,
PEOPLE WILL BE LIVING IN DIGNITY.
I CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON.
SO I AM GOING TO BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
ROLL CALL.
14:44:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
14:44:17 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
14:44:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
14:44:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
14:44:21 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
14:44:22 >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
14:44:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE SUBSTITUTE
FOR 21 AS WELL?
14:44:30 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
14:44:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
14:44:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM NUMBER 21, THE SUBSTITUTE, AND THE
SUBSTITUTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR THAT FILE, I MOVE
THAT MOTION.
14:44:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
ROLL CALL.
14:44:53 >>BILL CARLSON:
ALTHOUGH I WOULD HAVE VOTED ALSO TO
CONTINUE THIS ONE SINCE THE FIRST ONE WAS APPROVED I WILL
VOTE YES ON THIS ONE.
14:45:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
14:45:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
14:45:08 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
14:45:09 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
14:45:11 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
14:45:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
14:45:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
14:45:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE AGAIN ON 20.
I BELIEVE IN MY OWN -- I DID NOT SAY THE FILE NUMBER AND I
WANT THE RECORD TO BE 100%.
SO I WOULD LIKE A REVOTE ON ITEM NUMBER 20.
14:45:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT'S YOUR WISH.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
14:45:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WOULD LIKE TO REFILE NUMBER 20 WHICH
IS FILE F-22-74004.
I MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION ON ITEM NUMBER 20.
14:45:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
ROLL CALL.
14:45:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
14:45:43 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
14:45:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
14:45:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
14:45:46 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
14:45:47 >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
14:45:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
14:45:51 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
14:45:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT'S IT.
ITEM NUMBER 41.
AND MOVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MIRANDA, SECOND BY CITRO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ITEM NUMBER 41.
DO YOU NEED A RECESS OR ANYTHING?
NO.
GO AHEAD.
14:46:20 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
ITEM NUMBER 41 IS BEFORE YOU FOR PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR THE
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5710 NORTH MIAMI AVENUE.
THE PETITIONER FILED A REVIEW FOR A SPECIAL USE APPLICATION
THAT WAS REQUESTING FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
STAFF DENIED THE APPLICATION OF JANUARY 24 OF 2022 ON THE
BASIS THAT THE APPLICATION DID NOT MEET THE CRITERIA SET
FORTH IN CODE SECTION 27-132.
REMEMBER, CITY COUNCIL, YOU JUST PROVIDED COPIES OF THE
RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS WHICH IS CODE SECTIONS 27-132, 27-129
AND 27-30.
I ALSO PROVIDED THE SAMPLE MOTIONS, AND THE RULINGS OF
PROCEDURE FOR THIS REVIEW HEARING.
THE STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THE PETITION FOR REVIEW THIS
AFTERNOON IS GOVERNED BY CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBSECTION J
SUBSECTION 3.
THAT SECTION MEANS THAT CITY COUNCIL CONDUCT A DE NOVO
STANDARD OF REVIEW WHICH MEANS THAT YOU CAN ACCEPT
TESTIMONY, PUBLIC COMMENT, AND MAKE YOUR DECISION TO
DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICANT OR THE PETITIONER
MEETS THE RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS FOR THIS APPLICATION.
STAFF, WHO IS GOING TO PRESENT STAFF'S FINDING, AND THE
REASON FOR THE STAFF DECISION IS LAURA MARLEY.
AFTER YOU CONDUCT -- COLLECT ALL THE EVIDENCE IN THIS CASE,
CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE A COUPLE OF ACTIONS.
YOU CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, AND
DENY THE SPECIAL USE APPLICATION, OR YOU CAN OVERTURN THE
DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, AND THEREBY GRANT THE
SPECIAL USE APPLICATION, AND WITH THAT I WILL TURN THE
PRESENTATION OVER TO MS. MARLEY.
14:48:25 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
LAURA MARLEY, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN.
14:48:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
(OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
14:48:36 >> COULD I SHARE MY SCREEN?
14:48:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL
RECEIVED AND FILED ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS SUBJECT TO
FLORIDA STATUTES 286-0115 AND IF THERE'S ANY VERBAL EX PARTE
COMMUNICATIONS PLEASE DISCLOSE THEM NOW.
14:48:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING?
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND BY
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
(OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
14:49:17 >> CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
14:49:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, WE CAN.
GO AHEAD.
14:49:29 >> THIS APPLICATION WAS SPECIAL USE 12204 FOR PROPERTY
ADDRESS 5710 NORTH MIAMI AVENUE.
THE REQUEST FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
THIS IS THE OVERALL AREA LOCATED IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOOKING FROM MIAMI.
AND THIS IS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE LOOKING FROM EAST HENRY
AVENUE.
THIS IS A PHOTO FROM EAST HENRY AVENUE.
THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY AND THIS IS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE
IN QUESTION.
AND THESE ARE THE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING
UNIT.
THEY ARE -- THE APPLICANT IS GOING MEET ALL OF THEM WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF C, WHICH AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT MAY BE
DESIGNED TO BE LOCATED WITHIN A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING WITH
A SEPARATE ENTRANCE OR IN A CONFORMING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
HOWEVER, IT MAY NOT BE LOCATED IN A NONCONFORM ACCESSORY
STRUCTURE OR CONFORM AS A RESULT OF A VARIANCE.
THE PROPOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WILL BE LOCATED IN AN
EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM
REQUIRED SETBACKS, AS REQUIRED BY CODE, AND THEREFORE
NONCONFORMING.
A SIDE STREET SETBACK OF 3 FEET IN THE REAR, SETBACK OF 3
FEET IS REQUIRED, THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE DOES NOT
COMPLY WITH EITHER REQUIREMENT, AND THE REQUEST IS A ZERO
FOOT SETBACK FOR THE STREET AND SIDE SETBACKS.
AND HERE IS SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY, THE EXISTING
SINGLE-FAMILY AND THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ARE ON THE PROPERTY LINE ON HENRY AND
ON THE PROPERTY LINE WHICH IS CONSIDERED THE REAR.
THE REQUIRED IS 3 FEET.
THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH ZERO FEET.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
14:51:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO?
YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
WERE YOU SWORN IN?
OKAY, GOOD.
GO AHEAD.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
14:51:27 >>JAIME MAIER:
JAIME MAIER REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT FROM
THE LAW FIRM HILL, WARD, HENDERSON, 101 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, SUITE 3700 TAMPA, AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
I AM JUST GOING TO SWITCH OVER TO PC TO SHOW A PowerPoint.
IF I CAN GET THE COMPUTER TO WORK.
14:51:54 >>JAIME MAIER:
SORRY, EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
OKAY.
SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR, AS STAFF EXPLAINED, A REQUEST FOR
A WAIVER TO A SINGLE CRITERION IN THE SPECIALTY USE FOR
ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS SET OF CRITERIA, SPECIFICALLY TO
ALLOW AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IN A NONCONFORMING
STRUCTURE.
BY WAY OF BACKGROUND THE APPLICANTS LIVE IN A HOME, THE
PRIMARY HOME STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN THE 1920S, THE ACCESSORY
STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN 1930s, AND OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD WAS
PLATTED ALSO IN EARLY 1900, I BELIEVE 1913 WAS THE DATE ON
THE PLAT.
IT IS COUNCILMAN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OTHER THAN A STONE'S
THROW.
I WILL SHOW YOU A FEW PICTURES LATER OF AERIALS FOR
ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND KIND OF TUCKED IN THE CORNER OF THE
YEAR, SIDE YARD, AND MANY OF THESE STRUCTURES WERE ALSO
BUILT AROUND THE TIMES THAT THE HOMES WERE BUILT AND THIS IS
OFTEN IN THE 20s AND 30s WHEN THE AREA WAS PLATTED OR
SHORTLY AFTER IT WAS PLATTED AND A LOT OF THESE TYPES OF
STRUCTURES HAVE MINIMAL TO ZERO FOOT SETBACKS WHICH TODAY
ARE NONCONFORMING TO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING CODE.
THERE'S ALSO COMMON FOR STRUCTURES TO BE USED AS ADUs.
SO THESE SPECIAL USE 1 PERMIT AS YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR IS AN
ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, SO THERE'S NO PROBLEM HEARING, BUT
STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GRANT WAIVERS FROM
THOSE CRITERIA.
ONLY CITY COUNCIL HAS THAT AUTHORITY.
SO STAFF EVEN THOUGH IT MEETS ALL THE OTHER CODE AS STAFF
EXPLAINED, STAFF HAD TO DENY THE APPLICATION BECAUSE ONE OF
THOSE CRITERIA WAS NOT MET.
AND THIS PETITION FOR REVIEW VENUE ALLOWS THE POSSIBILITY
FOR YOU ALL TO GRANT A WAIVER OF THAT PARTICULAR CRITERION.
AS STAFF EXPLAINED, THE 3-FOOT DIFFERENCE, THE MODERN DAY
SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS 3 FEET,
WHETHER IT'S ON THE REAR OR THE SIDE, IN THIS CASE BOTH.
IT'S ZERO FEET WOULD REALLY FLUSH WITH THOSE SETBACKS.
WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY OPPOSITION.
WE CERTAINLY HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY OPPOSITION.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED SUPPORT LETTERS FROM MANY OF THE
ADJACENT AND SURROUNDING OWNERS.
I WILL SHOW YOU A LITTLE MAP OF THOSE PEOPLE AND THE LETTERS
WERE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE APPELLATE FOR REVIEW PACKAGE
AS WELL.
YOU SAW THE SITE PLANS JUST A MOMENT AGO.
HERE ARE THE CONTENTS OF THE AERIAL STRUCTURE.
YOU CAN SEE AN ALLEY RUNS ALONG THE WEST, KIND OF BUFFERING
THAT STRUCTURE FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE WEST.
AND THEN TO THE NORTH IS HENRY AVENUE.
THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THERE'S A PAVED PORTION AND AN UNIMPROVED PORTION THAT IS AN
ADDITIONAL BUFFER IN THE NORTH.
THESE ARE A LITTLE OLDER.
THEY HAVE CLEANED IT UP.
BUT THIS IS REALLY KIND OF ON THE GROUND TO GIVE YOU CONTEXT
OF THAT ALLEY AND ALSO THIS IS THE AREA IF YOU ARE STANDING
ON HENRY, YOU SEE THE UNIMPROVED PORTION OF HENRY.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF YARD SPACE, IT DOESN'T BELONG TO THEM
BUT THERE IS KIND OF A BUFFER AROUND THIS STRUCTURE.
SO THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA, THIS DWELLING UNIT, ACCESSORY
DWELLING UNIT IS LESS THAN 950 SQUARE FEET, I BELIEVE ABOUT
815.
THE MAIN RESIDENCE IS OWNER OCCUPIED.
IT'S THEIR HOMESTEAD, A NONCONFORM STRUCTURE.
THIS IS A JUSTIFIABLE WAIVER FROM THIS PARTICULAR CRITERIA
THAT WOULD OTHERWISE PROHIBIT USE OF A NONCONFORMING
STRUCTURE.
THIS PARTICULAR CRITERIA DOES NOT RECOGNIZE WHAT'S GOING ON
IN TAMPA'S OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS ESPECIALLY WHERE SO MANY OF
THESE STRUCTURES EXIST, THIS TYPE OF USE IS VERY COMMON, AND
UNNECESSARILY RESTRICTED TO DISALLOW USE OF EXISTING
BUILDING STOCK WHEN SO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO USE IT FOR
ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND WHEN IT MEETS ALL OTHER CODE
CRITERIA.
SO IT DOESN'T REFLECT THE DESIRABILITY OF USING THESE AS
FORMAL HOUSING.
THE APPLICANT IS PREPARED TO COMPLY WITH THE NUMBER OF
LIMITATIONS AND THE SAFEGUARD OF THIS PROCESS IS THAT IT IS
REVIEWED, THE PERMIT IS REVIEWED ANNUALLY BY STAFF IF
GRANTED.
AND IF CONDITIONS CHANGE, IF IT BECAME SO KIND OF NEGATIVE
IMPACT IT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU ALL AGAIN TO REASSESS.
THE GENERAL STANDARDS FOR ALL SPECIAL USE 1 PERMITS, THERE
CANNOT BE A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, A
COMMON USE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE THOSE BUFFER AREAS
THAT I SHOWED YOU.
IT COMPLIES WITH ALL OF THE APPLICABLE CODE REGULATIONS AND
STANDARDS.
IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE REASONS I
EXPLAINED, AND VERY COMMON TYPE OF STRUCTURE AND ALSO USE,
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT'S
RESIDENTIAL USE IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, REUSING EXISTING
BUILDING STOCK AND IT'S PROMOTING A VARIETY OF HOUSING
CHOICES.
AND FOR ALL THESE SAME REASONS IT'S NOT PROMOTING A
POTENTIAL OR PRECEDENT OF INCOMPATIBLE USES IN THE AREA.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS KIND OF WITHIN A STONE'S
THROW OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
A LOT OF THESE LITTLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN THE REAR
YARDS, OF COURSE DON'T HAVE SURVEYS ON ALL THESE BUT VISIBLY
THEY APPEAR TO BE VERY CLOSE AND NOT FLUSH WITH MANY OF THE
BOUNDARIES, THE LOT BOUNDARIES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THESE ALL HAVE SPECIAL PERMITS, OR IF THEY
ARE NONCONFORMING.
AGAIN I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION ON THE SURVEYS OR PERMITS
BUT THESE ARE KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF THE TYPES OF STRUCTURES
YOU SEE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, WHERE THEY ARE USING THESE.
THEY ARE CLEANING THEM UP, USING THEM AS ACCESSORY DWELLING
UNITS AND A LOT OF THESE AS YOU CAN SEE ARE FLUSH WITH THE
FENCE LINE SO PRESUMABLY THEY ARE SIMILARLY SITUATED AS YOU
SAW ON A LOT OF THE AERIALS, THE WAY THESE STRUCTURES ARE.
THE BLUE PIN DROPS ARE ALL SUPPORT LETTERS YOU RECEIVED
ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH, ADJACENT ACROSS THE ALLEY TO THE
NORTHWEST, ADJACENT TO THE NORTH ACROSS HENRY, A CROSS THE
STREET, AND ONE BLOCK TO THE SOUTH.
WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED OBJECTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK TODAY.
SO IN SUM, WE ARE REQUESTING A WAIVER FROM A SINGLE
CRITERION THAT DOESN'T REALLY REFLECT THE ACTUAL PATTERNS OF
DEVELOPMENT ESPECIALLY IN THESE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE WILL BE USING BUILDING STOCK.
THIS REQUEST OTHERWISE SATISFIES ALL APPLICABLE CODE.
AND THE STRUCTURE AND THE USE TYPE ARE COMMON IN THE AREA SO
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL AND I AM
HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
14:59:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HOW LONG HAS THE STRUCTURE BEEN THERE?
14:59:42 >> SINCE 1930.
14:59:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WHAT BROUGHT ON THIS CASE?
DID SOMEONE CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT OR ANYBODY ABOUT THIS?
14:59:52 >>JAIME MAIER:
SO UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS A CASE STUDY IN BAD
PERMITTING ADVICE.
THE APPLICANT, ONE OF THE PARENTS WANTED TO REFURBISH THIS
INTO AN EXISTING UNIT FOR THEM TO LIVE IN SIX MONTHS OUT OF
THE YEAR AND THEN RECOUP COSTS WHICH RENTING IT OUT.
A LOT OF THEIR NEIGHBORS DO IT.
THEY HIRED A PERMITTING AGENT.
I HAVE PERSONALLY NOT WORKED WITH THE PERSON BECAUSE THEY
REALIZED THEY NEED THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF THE PROCESS, GOT FLAGGED, STOPPED, WE
HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.
MS. SAVINO IS THE ATTORNEY WHO THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH,
AND WHILE WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, SO THAT'S WHERE WE
ARE.
YEAH, IT WAS UNFORTUNATE, THEY DIDN'T KNOW IN ADVANCE THEY
HAD TO MAKE THIS APPLICATION.
15:00:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SO WERE THEY RENTING TO A FAMILY MEMBER?
15:00:43 >> NO, THEY ARE NOT RENTING IT YET.
THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, PULLING THE PERMIT AND
IT GOT FLAGGED DURING THE PROCESS OF RENOVATING IT.
15:00:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
BEFORE IT WAS TAGGED, WHAT WAS IT USED FOR?
15:00:58 >> HONESTLY I AM NOT SURE.
I KNOW THEY WEREN'T REPRESENTING IT.
THEY RECENTLY MOVED INTO THEIR HOUSE LIKE A COUPLE YEARS
AGO.
15:01:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WHO ARE THEY PLANNING ON RENTING IT TO?
15:01:09 >> OH, PARENTS --
15:01:12 >> FAMILY MEMBER?
15:01:13 >> PARENTS ABOUT SIX MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR.
OTHERWISE, I SUPPOSE WHOEVER WAS IN THE MARKET.
AND THEY ARE NOT HERE TODAY.
THEY WANTED TO BE HERE.
THEIR DAUGHTER HAS COVID.
I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE THEY COULD BETTER ANSWER SOME OF THESE
QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
SO MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
BUT IT'S NOT AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH A DIFFERENT
TYPE OF SPECIAL USE.
IT COULD BE RENTED TO CONCEIVABLY ANYBODY.
15:01:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SO IT WOULDN'T LITERALLY BE A MOTHER-IN-LAW
SUITE?
15:01:42 >> IN EFFECT SIX MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR, YES.
BUT WE ARE NOT GOING THROUGH THAT -- THERE IS A DIFFERENT
SPECIAL USE CHANNEL FOR THAT.
15:01:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
15:01:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I FIND IT VERY INTERESTING THAT SOMEONE WOULD LIVE THERE SIX
MONTHS AND THEN THEY ARE GOING TO ASK THEM TO LEAVE AND MOVE
SOMEONE IN FOR SIX MONTHS.
THAT DOESN'T WORK.
LET'S BE REALISTIC.
15:02:11 >> CORRECT.
A BNB.
15:02:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT.
I AM NOT CALLING YOU UNBELIEVABLE BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT.
NO ONE IS GOING TO MOVE THEM OUT AND MOVE THE PARENTS IN,
FIND ANOTHER TENANT, AND THAT'S GOING TO ROTATE EVERY YEAR?
15:02:28 >> I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE MORE SHORT TERM RENTAL WHICH
IS PERMITTED.
YOU ARE CORRECT.
THAT WOULD BE VERY STRANGE AND IT WOULD NOT BE REALISTIC.
BUT I THINK IT'S MORE A WAY FOR THEM TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY
TO COME DOWN --
15:02:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IS THIS PROPERTY HOMESTEADED OR NOT?
15:02:46 >> YES.
15:02:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THEY HAVE NEVER RENTED THE PLACE?
15:02:49 >> NO, THEY HAVEN'T RENTED --
15:02:50 >> DOES IT HAVE A KITCHEN IN THE INSIDE?
15:02:52 >> YES. NOW.
THAT'S PART OF THE PERMIT PULLING.
15:02:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THEN THEY LOSE THEIR HOMESTEAD.
IF THEY HAVE A KITCHEN IN THERE. THIS IS FOR FAMILY
MEMBERS.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RENT IT, GUESS WHAT, THEN YOUR TAXES GO
UP, MUCH DIFFERENT.
YOUR TAXES BECOME A BUSINESS.
15:03:06 >> YOU ARE PERMITTED TO HAVE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND
ALSO LIVE IN THE HOUSE.
15:03:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FAMILY MEMBERS.
15:03:14 >> NO, RESPECTFULLY, THAT'S CALLED AN EXTENDED FAMILY
RESIDENCE, A DIFFERENT CHANNEL OF THE CODE AND YOU ARE NOT
ALLOWED TO RENT THAT OUT TO A NONFAMILY MEMBER.
MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR THAT AND WE ARE NOT
TRYING TO GET THAT THROUGH SECRETLY.
WE ARE ASKING FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT WHICH IS
PERMITTED TO BE RENTED TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.
IT IS A DIFFERENT SERIES OF PERMITS.
AND IT'S A DIFFERENT STANDARD.
I PERSONALLY HAVE DONE THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE
APPLICATION BEFORE AND IT IS DIFFERENT.
15:03:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ONE MORE QUESTION.
THE LOTS THAT YOU SHOWED US THAT HAVE DWELLING UNITS, DO YOU
KNOW IF THOSE ARE EMPTY OR FULL OR RELATIVES OR NOT?
15:03:53 >> I DON'T KNOW.
15:03:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT?
15:03:57 >> NO, SIR.
15:03:58 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
NO, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I DON'T KNOW THAT INFORMATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF IS AWARE IF THOSE UNITS ARE OCCUPIED
OR NOT.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE PETITIONER HAS PROVIDED THAT
INFORMATION EITHER.
15:04:12 >> I WILL SAY ONE OF THOSE WE GOT PERMITTED IS CURRENTLY
BEING USED.
I KNOW IT WENT THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS.
SO I KNOW IT'S ON THE MARKET FOR BEING RENTED.
THERE'S LISTINGS FOR IT.
15:04:29 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WANT -- ARE YOU
DONE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION?
15:04:39 >> YES.
15:04:41 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO COUNCIL
MEMBERS ATTENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP
DURING HER PRESENTATION.
THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT MAY BE SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY IN
QUESTION ASKING FOR A SPECIAL USE, THERE IS NO INFORMATION
ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ACCESSORY DWELLING, THOSE
STRUCTURES ARE PERMITTED, OR WHEN THEY WERE ESTABLISHED, AND
QUITE FRANKLY THEY WERE DONE BEFORE THE ZONING PROVISION
TEAMS.
AND I JUST WANT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE AWARE OF THAT,
THAT JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE PROPERTIES IN THAT AREA HAVE
ALSO STRUCTURES IN THE REAR DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT WAS
PERMITTED, AND THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING PROVIDED BY THE
PETITIONER THAT THEY WERE PERMITTED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN
THE REAR.
AND JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BACK THERE DOESN'T MEAN THAT OTHER
PROPERTIES HAVE IT DOESN'T MEAN THIS PARROT SAME PROPERTY
OWNER SHOULD HAVE THE SAME THING.
15:05:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
YES, MA'AM?
15:05:40 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
MANAGEMENT FOR THE CITY.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT'S
HAPPENING UP TO THIS MORNING, AS YOU KNOW, OR THIS
AFTERNOON.
WE ARE CONTINUALLY FACING OUR CRISIS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING
AND HOUSING UNIT.
AND WHAT I HEAR THE DISCUSSION TAKING PLACE TODAY IS ON
EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCES VERSUS AB USES WHICH ARE
ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PRODUCTS.
THEY ARE BOTH SPECIAL USES.
WHAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING ON THIS CASE IS THAT THIS IS
A REQUEST FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
THE CRITERIA DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THOSE TO BE COMPLIES PLACED
IN NONCONFORMING STRUCTURES.
THE SPECIAL USE 1, WHICH IS ADMINISTRATIVE, WENT TO THE
ZONING DEPARTMENT.
THEY DENIED IT BECAUSE IT HAS THOSE SPECIFIC CRITERIA.
IF YOU DON'T MEET IT WE CANNOT APPROVE IT.
IT COMES TO YOU ON APPEAL.
THAT'S WHERE IT IS TODAY, TO ASK YOU FOR PERMISSION TO USE
THAT NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE FOR THIS USE.
AND THAT IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU.
SO GETTING INTO THE KITCHENS, THIS IS AN ALLOWED ACCESSORY
DWELLING WHICH ALLOWS FOR A KITCHEN, IT ALLOWS FOR IT TO BE
RENTED.
SO IT IS DIFFERENT FROM AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE, BUT I
JUST WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD CLARIFYING WHAT'S BEFORE YOU
TODAY.
SORRY ABOUT THAT, LAURA.
15:07:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY.
I ALWAYS LEARN WHEN YOU GIVE US YOUR INPUT.
I WAS LOOKING FOR A DIFFERENT SUBJECT WHEN I ASKED WHO WAS
GOING TO BE LIVING THERE, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOING TO BE
RENTED TO A FAMILY MEMBER OR NOT.
AGAIN, WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE LEASES IN THIS AREA OF THE CITY
OF TAMPA.
I AM JUST THE KIND OF PERSON THAT LIKES TO BE SEE EXTENDED
LEASES INSTEAD OF SHORT-TERM.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION.
I WOULD GIVE IT CONSIDERATION.
YEAH, MY MOTHER-IN-LAW IS GOING TO RENT IT.
THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY.
15:07:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT
WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
ANYBODY REGISTERED?
15:07:47 >>THE CLERK:
NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
15:07:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY REBUTTAL?
15:07:55 >>JAIME MAIER:
I APPRECIATE MS. FEELEY'S INPUT.
WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SNEAK THROUGH AN EXTENDED FAMILY
RESIDENCE.
WE WOULD HAVE GONE THAT ROUTE IF THAT WAS THE ONLY THING
THEY WANTED TO DO WITH IT.
THEY DO WANT TO RENT IT OUT.
BUT THEIR PARENTS ALSO WANT THE FLEXIBILITY TO STAY THERE
BECAUSE IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT, YES, IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A RENTAL UNIT.
SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST.
AND ALSO TO CLARIFY, I SAID ON THE RECORD AS I WAS SHOWING
YOU.
I DON'T HAVE THE SURVEYS FOR THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES.
I DON'T HAVE ANY RECORD OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
IT'S JUST KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE SURROUNDING AREA
LOOKS LIKE, AND WHAT IS FREQUENTLY GOING ON IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WHERE THEY GOT THE IDEA, FRANKLY.
SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS
WAIVER.
AND I THINK IT DOES PROMOTE, HELPS WITH THE ISSUES WE HAVE
IN THE CITY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO BE HERE.
THANK YOU.
15:08:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
GUDES.
15:08:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM NOT OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY HAVING A
RENTAL UNIT.
I KNOW THAT IN THAT AREA, THERE'S A WAY OF DOING IT WHERE
YOU CAN HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THERE AND THEY DO CHECK ONCE A
YEAR, AND I AM ALL FINE WITH THAT.
BUT ONCE THEY SAY IT'S A RENTAL UNIT, THAT CAUSE AS LOT OF
QUESTIONS TO ME. IN WEST TAMPA ALONE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT
IN A VERY SMALL AREA -- AND IT WASN'T SO MUCH ACCESSORY
UNITS AS THEY EXPANDED THE HOUSE CONNECTED TO THE HOUSE.
AND SOMETIMES THERE'S TWO OR THREE FAMILIES LIVING IN THE
HOUSE, IN THE BACK.
AND IN FACT ONE OF THE LADIES LAST THURSDAY NIGHT CAME TO ME
ASKING IF I COULD FIND A REPLACEMENT.
SHE'S RENTING AN APARTMENT INSIDE OF HER HOUSE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS THERE IS THIS.
AND I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS THIS CASE, PLEASE, DON'T TAKE
THAT.
THEY PAY NO AD VALOREM TAX OTHER THAN THE HOMESTEAD TAX.
THEY PAY NO INCOME TAX.
THEY ARE NOT REPORTING IT TO THE GOVERNMENT.
SO MOST OF THEM, I ALWAYS SAY 95% OF THOSE THAT I HAVE SEEN
ARE PAYING NOTHING.
NOTHING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.
NOTHING TO THE COUNTY.
NOTHING TO THE CITY.
AND THOSE ARE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, IN A SMALL AREA, THAT I
CAN TELL YOU IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSE.
AND WE DO NOTHING.
THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
NOT ABOUT YOUR CASE.
15:10:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IT'S KIND OF STRANGE TO ME.
SIX MONTHS, AND THEN THEY ARE GONE, AND SIX MONTHS, I MEAN,
WE TALK ABOUT A HOUSING CRISIS, BUT IT'S ODD TO ME RIGHT
NOW.
I MOVE TO CLOSE.
15:10:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO CLOSE.
SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
15:10:48 >>BILL CARLSON:
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN, JUST TO SEE
WHAT HAPPENS, UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO MAKE THE OTHER
MOTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF SPECIAL USE 1 APPLICATION
SU-1-22-04 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5710 NORTH MIAMI AVENUE
BECAUSE THE GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-132
AND 27-129 SHOULD BE WAIVED.
15:11:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AND I WOULD APPRECIATE, I AGREE WITH
YOU.
HOWEVER, WHEN I LOOK AT THE CRIMINALITY ASPECT, AND WE
HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH THEM EITHER, THEN WHY SHOULD I
PICK ON ONE WHEN THERE'S SEVEN NEXT?
AND I AGREE WITH YOU, SIR.
I REALLY DO.
BUT WHEN THERE'S SEVEN OTHER BLUE DOTS AND WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT'S GOING ON?
SO IF THERE'S 8 SPEEDERS DO I JUST CATCH ONE?
15:12:09 >>BILL CARLSON:
DOES THIS FAIL FOR LACK OF A SECOND?
15:12:12 >> I SECOND IT.
15:12:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AND I AGREE WITH YOU.
IF I AM GOING TO GO ON ONE, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER ONES?
I'M ASKING ANYBODY.
GIVE ME SOME HELP.
15:12:23 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AFTER WE VOTE?
BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR ADVICE.
15:12:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, IF THIS IS A DISCUSSION ON THE
MOTION AND IT FORMS THE BASIS FOR YOUR DECISION, I THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE PART OF THE RECORD, IF YOU HAVE A
POSITION, AS TO ANY FACTS, ADDITIONAL FACTS.
15:12:42 >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SYSTEMIC SOLUTIONS
FOR THIS PROBLEM.
THAT MAY BE BETTER UNDER NEW BUSINESS OR SOMETHING.
15:12:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL --
15:12:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE TO REOPEN.
15:12:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
YES, MA'AM?
15:13:12 >> I THINK THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS CORRECT THAT THIS IS
AN ISSUE WE NEED TO DISCUSS BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE ARE
HAVING A WORKSHOP ON AB USE COMING UP SOON AND I THINK THAT
GOES ALONG WITH THAT.
BUT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN HOUSING NOW, WE DO NEED TO FIND
MORE WAYS TO ALLOW HOUSING, AND THIS WOULD BE ALLOWABLE --
WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE IF IT HADN'T BEEN SET BACK
INCORRECTLY, OR NOT INCORRECTLY BUT JUST DIFFERENT FROM WHAT
OUR CURRENT ZONING IS.
BUT I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE NEED TO
FIND ALL OF THOSE HIDDEN UNITS AND BRING THEM ON.
AND I THINK WE CAN DO THAT, BUT THIS TO ME IS TALKING ABOUT
DOING IT LEGALLY, GETTING ALL THE WAIVERS, GETTING
EVERYTHING THEY NEED, AND USING THE PROPERTY THE WAY THEY
ARE ALLOWED TO USE IT.
IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN TO BE IN THE CORRECT -- IN THE
LOCATION THAT THE CITY WOULD NORMALLY ALLOW.
15:14:21 >> THANK YOU.
AND I HAVE HEARD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST.
AGAIN, TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S POINT, WHY ARE WE PICKING OUT
ONE WHEN THERE'S EIGHT OTHERS?
WHAT WAS THE REASON WHY CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS CALLED ON THIS
ONE?
THIS IS A SIX-MONTH RENTAL.
I WANT TO KNOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET CERTIFICATES?
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE OTHER MONTHS?
THESE ARE JUST QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE INSIDE MY HEAD.
I WANT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
BUT I WANTS THE RECORDS TO BE CLEAR ON WHO HAS WHAT, HOW
IT'S BEING RENTED, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A TOPIC OF
DISCUSSION.
SO I JUST HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT THIS ONE.
THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
15:15:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAID, AND IF I MAY,
MR. CHAIRMAN.
THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
THE OTHERS ARE NOT.
I JUST BROUGHT THAT UP, INSTEAD OF LOOKING THROUGH A NARROW
HOLE IN THE WALL I WANT TO LOOK THROUGH A THICK TELESCOPE SO
I CAN SEE IT ALL.
15:15:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
I JUST POINT TO THE CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED
WITH, SPECIFICALLY SECTION 27-132 AND SECTION 27-129.
AGAIN, YOU ARE PRESENTED WITH THIS PARTICULAR SET OF FACTS,
AND THIS IS THE PETITION THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY.
15:15:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER
CARLSON WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
ROLL CALL.
15:16:01 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
15:16:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
15:16:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
15:16:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
VERY RELUCTANTLY YES.
15:16:15 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
15:16:17 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
15:16:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
15:16:19 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
15:16:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
WE GO TO STAFF REPORTS.
AND UNDER THAT, I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER 29, BECAUSE OF THE
OUNT OF $4.4 MILLION, WE HAVE THAT -- WELL, THERE'S A
SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION ON IT?
15:16:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE CLERK JUST CAUGHT A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERA
THAT WE CAN CORRECT UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
15:16:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY HERE UNDER ITEM 29?
THIS IS THE AMENDMENT.
DID WE PASS 29?
SO THAT'S ALREADY SET.
OKAY.
SO I HAVE THE ADDENDUM.
THAT WILL BE A PRESENTATION LATER ON.
THERE'S NO ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
ITEM NUMBER 44.
THIS IS TAMPA UNION STATION COFFEE SHOP/INCUBATOR PROPOSAL.
ROB ROSNER.
15:17:38 >>BILL CARLSON:
HE'S GIVEN A REPORT AND PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
MY CONCERN WHICH I EXPRESSED DURING THE CRA MEETING IS JUST
THAT THIS IS BEING PUSHED WAY OUT IN THE FUTURE, AND THE
REASON IS THAT THE FRIEND OF TAMPA UNION STATION AND THE
CITY IN CONVERSATIONS HAVE DECIDED TO SEEK GRANTS FOR THE
ADDITIONAL 1.5 MILLION.
SO I SPOKE TO MS. TRAVIS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
TO ASK THE CITY STAFF AND CRA STAFF TO WORK ON AN AGREEMENT
BETWEEN CRA, THE CITY, AND IF NECESSARY FRIEND OF TAMPA
UNION STATION TO HAVE THE CRA FUND THE ADDITIONAL 1.5
MILLION SUBJECT TO REIMBURSEMENT BY THE CITY FOR FRIEND OF
TAMPA UNION STATION WITH ANY GRANT FUNDS RECEIVED.
THAT WAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL SAW THE LETTER TO THE
EDITOR IN THE PAPER BUT THE MAYOR IS MAKING THE SAME
ARGUMENT AS A LITTLE WHILE AGO THAT THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION
IS GOING UP AND THE ESTIMATES WE HAVE GOTTEN ON THE TAMPA
UNION STATION ARE GOING TO GO UP IF THEY DELAY THIS AND THEY
WOULD LIKE TO MOVE RIGHT AWAY.
SO IF WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE FUNDS, WE HAVE TO VOTE ON
IT AGAIN IN CRA, BUT IF WE PROVIDE THESE FUNDS IMMEDIATELY
THEY CAN DO THE RENOVATION AND THE BUILDING AT THE SAME TIME
WHICH WILL SAVE MONEY, NOT ONLY IN COSTS BUT ALSO BY DOING
BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
AND THEN WE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO GET REIMBURSED.
15:19:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM CARLSON, SECOND BY MIRANDA.
DISCUSSION?
15:19:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I AM FOR THIS, BUT HAS CRA PUT ANY MONEY INTO THIS SO FAR?
15:19:29 >>BILL CARLSON:
WE VOTED ON --
15:19:31 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
IT WAS A MILLION DOLLARS.
WE DISCUSSED THAT EARLIER THIS WEEK.
IT WAS A MILLION DOLLARS PUT IN THE BUDGET.
THAT ITEM IS STILL THERE.
I THINK IT'S LIKE 976,000 BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME, I DON'T
KNOW, STUDY OR SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE.
BUT THERE IS A MILLION DOLLARS THERE IN THE BUDGET RIGHT
NOW.
15:19:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AND THIS IS ANOTHER 1.5 ON TOP OF THAT?
15:19:53 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
MR. CARLSON IS ASKING FOR A 1.25 FOR
REMEDIATION AND REPAIR OF THE BUILDING IN ADVANCE, IF WE DID
GRANT FUND.
THAT WOULD MEAN IF WE DON'T GET GRANT FUND THE CRA WOULD BE
PUTTING IN THAT MONEY WITHOUT REIMBURSEMENT.
BUT WE COULD STILL SEEK THAT ALONG THE WAY.
15:20:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AND THE 900 THAT YOU PLUS WAS FROM CRA,
EXCUSE ME, YBOR CRA 1?
15:20:20 >> YOU ARE ASKING ME QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS
TO BUT I KNOW ROB ROSNER --
15:20:26 >> DOWNTOWN CRA.
OKAY.
15:20:27 >> BECAUSE IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO GASWORX PROJECT.
15:20:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I STAND CORRECTED.
THANK YOU.
AGAIN, THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET.
15:20:37 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YES.
15:20:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANKS VERY MUCH.
15:20:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CARLSON HAS A MOTION, SECOND BY
MIRANDA.
YES, MA'AM.
15:20:44 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
15:20:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU WANT?
MAY, THERE'S A REGULAR MEETING IN MAY?
15:20:58 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YOU ARE ASKING FOR THE CRA BOARD TO --
15:21:01 >>BILL CARLSON:
FOR STAFF TO COME BACK WITH AN AGREEMENT
BETWEEN CRA AND CITY, BECAUSE THE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY, AND
THEY WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THE AGREEMENT, IT WILL SAY THAT
CRA WILL UPFRONT THE MONEY BUT THEN THE CITY WILL REIMBURSE
IF WE GET GRANTS.
15:21:20 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
15:21:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAY 19th UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
15:21:24 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME
TO DRAFT AN AGREEMENT.
15:21:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUNE 16th?
THAT'S ALMOST 60 DAYS OUT.
15:21:35 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
60 DAYS FOR US TO GO TO THE CAC, GET THE
AGREEMENT AND COME BACK?
15:21:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO JUNE 16th THAT DAY AND THEN WE
GO INTO SUMMER BREAK.
HOW ABOUT JULY 14th?
15:21:51 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
IF WE GET IT DONE BEFORE THAT I WILL BRING
IT TO YOU TO YOU BEFORE THAT.
15:21:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER FOR
JULY 14th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
COUNCILMAN MEMBER CARLSON WITH A MOTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL.
15:22:04 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
15:22:10 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
15:22:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
15:22:13 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
15:22:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
15:22:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
15:22:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
15:22:17 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
15:22:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO THAT WILL COVER ALL OF 44, SO YOU
ARE SATISFIED?
15:22:23 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN WE JUST TALK ABOUT 47 SINCE IT'S THE
SAME TOPIC?
15:22:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ABOUT UNION STATION?
SURE.
47.
15:22:31 >>BILL CARLSON:
I ALSO TALKED TO MS. TRAVIS ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS FOR THE WORLD WAR II MEMORIAL.
AND I TALKED TO JACKSON, HE AND HIS FATHER THAT HELPED SAVE
THIS STATION, JACKSON ALSO IN ATLANTA HISTORY CENTER, AND HE
SAID THAT THEY PUT UP A WORLD WAR II MEMORIAL AT THE ATLANTA
HISTORY CENTER, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DID WAS THEY SET
UP A STEERING COMMITTEE OR ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SETTING UP
AND OFFICIAL COMMITTEE IS COMPLICATED BUT I WONDER IF -- IT
WOULD BE GREAT IF ROBIN NIGH'S DEPARTMENT COULD BE INVOLVED
IN THIS BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S A CITY PROPERTY, THE CRA
DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT TO GET THIS DONE.
THE CRA COULD GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF DECIDING WHAT THE
STATUE SHOULD BE, IF WE WOULD GO THROUGH CITY PURCHASING TO
HIRE AN ARTIST, AND THEN THAT WOULD COME BACK TO THE CRA
BOARD.
THE ONLY THING YOU ARE REALLY SAYING IN YOUR DOCUMENT IS WE
DON'T WANT TO PUT A STATUE INSIDE THE BUILDING WHILE IT'S
BEING RENOVATED BUT IT COULD OUTSIDE IN FRONT OR IN BACK,
AND I THINK THAT PROCESS COULD GO CONCURRENTLY.
IF IT HAPPENS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO INSIDE, WE COULD
ALWAYS PUT IT SOMEWHERE AND THEN THERE'S A STORAGE AREA
THERE TOO THAT WE CAN PUT IT IN.
SO MY REQUEST, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK CITY
STAFF TO WORK WITH CRA STAFF AND POSSIBLY THE PUBLIC ART
COMMITTEE, OR DEPARTMENT, TO SET UP AN AD HOC STEERING
COMMITTEE MADE UP OF WORLD WAR II VETERANS TO MOVE THIS
PROCESS FORWARD RIGHT AWAY.
15:24:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE THAT, JULY 14th
AS WELL UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
15:24:17 >>BILL CARLSON:
AND THEN GET AN UPDATE ON JULY 14th
ALSO.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
15:24:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THAT PLENTY OF TIME?
I'M ON THE ARTS COUNCIL BOARD, AND WE WILL BE MEETING IN
BETWEEN THAT.
15:24:27 >>OCEA WYNN:
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
ARTS AND CULTURAL AFFAIRS FALLS WITHIN MY PORTFOLIO. YES,
WE CAN DEFINITELY PUT BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER TO PRESENT AT
THE SAME TIME WHEN BRINGING TOGETHER A COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT
THIS.
15:24:48 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER
IS BRINGING A TIMELINE TO SHOW THE CONCURRENT PATHS FOR THE
ART PIECE AS WELL AS THE CONSTRUCTION PIECE, THE SUBSEQUENT
ART PIECE, JUST SO THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE THE TIMELINE OF
WHEN THINGS CAN HAPPEN CONCURRENTLY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
15:25:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU WANTED WORLD
WAR II VETERANS TO BE ON THE --
15:25:11 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXCLUSIVELY
WORLD WAR II VETERANS BUT THAT'S WHAT JACKSON RECOMMENDED.
15:25:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I KNOW A FEW AND ONE IN PARTICULAR,
HE'S GOT TO BE 98, 97, AND I THINK HE WAS AT UNION STATION
BECAUSE DID HE GO TO THE PACIFIC.
HIS BROTHER WAS STATION A IT DREW FIELD.
HE PASSED AWAY.
BUT I COULD REACH OUT TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT
COULD TELL YOU, AS AN EYEWITNESS, WE WERE AT THAT TRAIN
STATION.
15:25:39 >>BILL CARLSON:
MAYBE YOU CAN TELL NICOLE AS INTERIM CRA
PERSON, BUT GARY MORMINO HAS ALSO INTERVIEWED THE WORLD WAR
II VETERANS, SO HE WOULD OFFER TO PARTICIPATE.
15:25:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND BY
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ALL RIGHT.
NUMBER 45.
JC HUDGISON.
THEN ABBYE FEELEY.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN.
NUMBER 45.
15:26:06 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
MANAGEMENT.
AND I DO HAVE JC HUDGISON WITH ME THIS AFTERNOON.
THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.
ITEM NUMBER 45 ON YOUR AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON IS A MOTION
THAT WAS FROM AUGUST 5th AND THAT WAS TO REPORT ON THE
POSSIBLE IMPLEMENTATION TO AUDIT BUILDINGS.
WE DID COME BEFORE YOU AND DISCUSSED MONITORING WHAT WAS
GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE THIS SESSION IN
RELATION TO THIS MATTER.
THERE WERE TWO BILLS, TWO SENATE BILLS THAT LOOKED AT THE
POTENTIAL OF THIS, AND NEITHER OF THOSE BILLS MADE IT
THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE THIS SESSION.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO RECOMMEND THAT
WE LOOK AT SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND THE VIABILITY AND
ENFORCEMENT OF SOMETHING POTENTIAL, BUT JUST TO CONTINUE TO
KEEP A PULSE ON WHAT IS GOING ON AT THE STATE LEVEL IN
RELATION, BECAUSE THIS WOULD REALLY BE MORE OF A BUILDING
CODE MATTER THAN IT WOULD AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
SO THAT IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
THAT'S THE MEMORANDUM WE PROVIDED FOR YOU, APRIL 13th
DATED MEMO.
WE ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
15:27:20 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU BROUGHT THIS FORWARD.
15:27:24 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, COMMISSIONER OVERMAN ASKED TO US LOOK
AT THIS.
I THINK SHE WANTED SOMETHING THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT
SHE HAD PROPOSED AT THE COUNTY.
DO YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE THAT NOW?
15:27:37 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
WE ARE NOT PURSUING A CERTIFICATION, A
BUILDING CERTIFICATION PROGRAM WITHIN THE CITY AT THIS TIME.
15:27:42 >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA OR YOU ARE
WAITING FOR THE STATE?
15:27:50 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING WHAT THE STATE HAS
BEEN DOING.
THERE ARE OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE HAD IN
RELATIONSHIP TO THIS.
SOME PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT BUILDINGS OVER 30 YEARS IN AGE.
THAT WOULD BE ANYTHING CONSTRUCTED FROM 1992 FORWARD.
AT THIS TIME.
AND ALSO THE LEGAL LIABILITY OF PUTTING INTO PLACE A
CERTIFICATION PROCESS THAT YOU THEN GO OUT, YOU CERTIFY
SOMETHING, OR YOU HAVE ANOTHER ENTITY CERTIFY, ENGINEERING
COMPANY OR WHATEVER, AND THEY COME BACK, THEY SAY SOMETHING
IS WRONG.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S MULTIPLE FACTORS TO THIS PROGRAM, AND WE
REALLY WERE WAITING FOR THAT OTHER DIRECTION.
WE ARE HAPPY TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT MRS. LUTZ AT THE COUNTY EITHER HAS AT
THIS MOMENT IN TIME.
15:28:39 >>LUIS VIERA:
ANYONE ELSE?
OKAY, THANK YOU.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT WE ARE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER 46.
ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 46?
15:28:49 >>OCEA WYNN:
ADMINISTRATOR, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
COUNCILMAN GUDES, MY CONDOLENCES.
I WAS JUST AT AN EVENT WITH DEBBIE LAST WEDNESDAY.
WE SAT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, SO IT WAS VERY HEART WRENCHING TO
HEAR THE NEWS SO MY CONDOLENCES TO YOU.
I WAS ASKED TO APPEAR BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY ON THE
POSSIBILITY OF CREATING A COMPLAINT REGISTRY FOR LANDLORD.
AND IF YOU RECALL, CODE ENFORCEMENT WE REPORTED LAST OCTOBER
WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO COME AND CREATE A RECOMMENDATION STRIP
FOR LANDLORDS, TO REALIZE WHAT EFFICIENCIES THAT WE COULD
REALIZE TO IMPROVE THE CURRENT PROGRAM.
IF YOU RECALL, THE RENTAL CERTIFICATE PROGRAM IS ONE WHERE
THE LANDLORDS SELF CERTIFY THAT THE UNITS COMPLY WITH THE
MINIMUM HOUSING STANDARDS, BUT THIS IS WITHOUT AN INSPECTION
FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT.
SO WHAT WE DID IS THAT WE ASSESSED THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
PROPERTY TO SEE WHAT DO THEY DO FOR THEIR LANDLORDS?
WE FOUND OUT THAT THEY INVESTIGATE, WHAT THEY HAVE IS A
PROGRAM WHERE THEY INVESTIGATE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF
USE THROUGH THE COMPLAINTS IN AN ONLINE PROCESS.
AND WE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU THAT WE COULD DO A NUMBER OF
THINGS.
WE WOULD GET RID OF THE IN-KIND PROGRAM BECAUSE IT WAS IN
FACT INEFFICIENT.
WE'LL REPLACE THAT PROGRAM AND IMPLEMENT A PROACTIVE PROCESS
THAT RANDOMLY SELECTS THE RENTAL PROPERTIES FOR INSPECTIONS.
WE GET THOSE LISTS OF RENTALS OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS FROM
THE BUSINESS TAX OFFICE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE SAID THAT WE WOULD CREATE AN ONLINE
PORTAL PROCESS SIMILAR TO THAT AT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OFFICE
HAS.
IN THAT PROCESS THAT WE WILL PUT OUR LINK ON THE CODE
ENFORCEMENT WEBSITE, AND THAT LINK WILL LINK TO -- ALLOW US
TO GET THOSE CODE COMPLAINTS AND THOSE VIOLATIONS.
AND LINK TO THE SPACE WEBSITE SO THEY CAN GET ISSUES AS
WELL.
SO MY QUESTIONS TO YOU IS, WE PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION.
WE SAID THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE ONLINE PROCESS UP AND RUNNING
BEFORE THE NEXT ROUND OF THE CERTIFICATES, AND WE ARE
LOOKING AT A JUNE-JULY TIME FRAME, AND WE ARE STILL ON TRACK
WITH THAT.
SO MUCH MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHAT QUESTIONS CAN I HAVE THAT
ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY PRESENTED AND
COMMITTED, TO WHAT WE WERE GOING TO ALREADY DO?
15:31:46 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I KNOW COUNCILMAN GUDES OR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WHICH ONE
WANTS TO GO FIRST.
15:31:55 >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I THINK IS ALREADY A
BIG DEAL BUT IT'S GOING TO BECOME MUCH LARGER WITH THIS
HOUSING CRISIS WE HAVE.
MY CONCERN IS HOW ARE WE FINDING THE -- AND I AM THINKING
NOT ONLY OF THE ONES THAT ARE LEGAL PER SE, BUT THE ONES
THAT PEOPLE WHO BUILT OUT IN THEIR GARAGE OR THINGS LIKE
THAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO FIND THOSE AND BRING THEM INTO
COMPLIANCE?
IS THAT JUST GOING TO BE A CODE MATTER?
WYNN ONE WHEN WE GET COMPLAINT, WE HAVE OUR CODE OFFICERS TO
GO AND INVESTIGATE TO SEE IF THEY ARE LEGITIMATE OR NOT, AND
IF THEY ARE NOT, WE DO ISSUE CODE VIOLATIONS ACCORDINGLY.
WE DO NOT HAVE A PROACTIVE PROCESS WHERE WE GO THROUGH THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOOK FOR THESE SITUATIONS.
SO THEY ARE COMPLAINT DRIVEN.
15:32:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
15:32:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I GUESS I AM LOOKING AT ANOTHER PICTURE A
LITTLE BIT.
WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND NOT HAVE
ANY AUTHORITY TO DEAL WITH THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE FOUR OR
FIVE ADDITIONS.
YOU KNOW, WEAVE PROBABLY MAYBE IF WE COULD USE A MUTUAL AID
AGREEMENT TO DO SOME STUFF, THAT OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T HAVE
THE STAFF.
I AM JUST CURIOUS.
MAYBE SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO TO SEE WHO TO GET IN TOUCH
WITH, MAYBE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE CAN COME IN AND BE ABLE TO
MOVE CLOSER.
15:33:35 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
MR. GUDES, WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT ISSUE.
I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THAT'S PENDING.
THE MAJOR ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORTH ESPECIALLY FOR
THE CITY.
SO WE WILL WORK TO SEE WHO WE CAN COORDINATE WITH REGARDING
THAT.
15:33:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
DO YOU NEED A MOTION OR JUST --
15:33:57 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
WE'LL HANDLE IT.
15:33:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
YES, SIR.
15:34:00 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, ALL
YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
SO YOU ARE LOOKING AT HAVING WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT BY
JUNE, JULY, WHAT YOU ARE THINKING?
15:34:15 >>OCEA WYNN:
WE COMMIT TO HAVING IT TO YOU BY JULY AND
DEFINITELY BEFORE WE SEND OUT THE NOTIFICATIONS.
SO THE NOTIFICATIONS WILL STILL GO OUT.
THESE ARE THE ONES THAT SAY YOU HAVE TO STAFF CERTIFY.
BUT THIS YEAR THEY ARE SAYING YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO
SELF-CERTIFY.
15:34:33 >>LUIS VIERA:
MAYBE WE COULD MOTION TO HAVE THIS COME BACK
TO US IN JUNE OR JULY FOR A SUMMARY AND UPDATE OF WHAT'S
GOING TO BE GIVEN, AND TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL OPTIONS.
I KNOW THAT OTHER CITIES AND JURISDICTIONS SUCH AS BROWARD
AND GAINESVILLE HAVE A DIFFERENT ORDINANCE THAT DEAL WITH
THIS USUAL YOU AS WELL, BUT MAYBE WE COULD JUST HAVE THIS
JUST COME BACK TO US IN JUNE.
DOES THAT SOUND --
15:35:00 >>OCEA WYNN:
MAY I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION?
SINCE WE ARE SENDING -- STARTING A NEW PROCESS, I WOULD LIKE
TO BE BRING BACK HOW THAT'S WORKING.
SO IF WE CAN JUST PUSH IT OUT MAYBE TO AUGUST.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE WEBSITE IS WORKING OR IS NOT
WORKING.
15:35:17 >>LUIS VIERA:
AND THAT'S A GREAT IDEA SO WE CAN SEE WHAT'S
WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT WORKING AND WE CAN BUILD UPON IT
GIVEN THE EXPERIENCES OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
YES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AGAIN THE REASON, I KNOW A LOT OF US FEEL VERY PASSIONATE
ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES
IN TAMPA AND THESE LARGE APARTMENTS WHERE YOU GO AND YOU
TAKE A LOOK AT THEM, AS MANY OF US HAVE DONE MANY, MANY
TIMES WHETHER IT'S SILVER OAKS OR TIMBER FALLS OR MANY OTHER
PLACES, AND IT'S JUST NOT HABITABLE, IT'S TERRIBLE, AND
PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THEIR RIGHTS.
EITHER THERE ARE MORAL AND EQUITABLE RIGHTS AND DIGNITY OR
LEGAL RIGHTS AND WHATNOT.
SO I COMMEND YOU GUYS FOR YOUR WORK IN THIS REGARD, AND I
MOTION FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
15:36:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO BRING BACK AN UPDATE, STAFF
REPORTS, AUGUST 25th.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HURTAK.
YES, SIR?
15:36:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
DO YOU THINK BY THAT TIME MAYBE YOU WILL
HAVE GOTTEN SOME ANSWERS YAY OR NAY REFERENCE THE MOTION?
15:36:20 >> YES, SIR.
15:36:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
ITEM NUMBER 49.
COUNCILMEMBER VIERA'S MOTION.
15:36:32 >>LUIS VIERA:
NOISE ORDINANCE, OF COURSE.
WE HAVE HAD A FINE GENTLEMAN SITTING HERE FOR A WHILE.
15:36:45 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
ADMINISTRATOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITY.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU ASKED US TO PUT TOGETHER A PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT PLAN IN ADVANCING THE EFFORTS TO AMEND THE NOISE
ORDINANCE, AND WHAT WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY IS A
ROUGH OUTLINE OF OUR ATTEMPT TO TACKLE THIS PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT PIECE.
WE ARE PLANNING TO SCHEDULE TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS, ONE IN MAY
AND ONE IN JUNE, AND SEPARATE THEM ONE FOR RESIDENTS AND ONE
FOR BUSINESS OWNERS.
WHAT I PUT ON THE OVERHEAD IS JUST THE SAME THING I AM
TALKING TO YOU ABOUT NOW, IS THE TWO MEETINGS, AS WELL AS
THERE'S A PRIVATE CITIZEN GROUP THAT IS CONSISTENT FOR
RESIDENTIAL -- THANK YOU.
YEAH, THANK YOU.
BUT AS FAR AS THE ENGAGEMENT AND PUTTING THIS MEETING
TOGETHER.
SO WE'LL HAVE TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS, ONE FOR BUSINESS OWNERS
AND ONE FOR RESIDENTS THAT WE WILL HOLD IN MAY AND IN JUNE.
CONCURRENTLY THERE'S A PRIVATE CITIZENS GROUP THAT I KNOW
HAS REACHED OUT TO A NUMBER OF YOU THAT CONSISTS OF ITS A
DEVELOPER THAT HAS PUT THIS GROUP TOGETHER, BUSINESSES AND
RESIDENTIAL.
WE WOULD INVITE THEM TO THOSE TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE
ARE HOSTING, AS WELL AS THEY CAN CONCURRENTLY GO AHEAD TO
STUDY THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND DEVELOP SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE KNOW THAT ENFORCEMENT IS A BIG PART OF THIS NOISE
ORDINANCE.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE TAMPA POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND CAPTAIN OWEN.
THEY WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE AT THOSE MEETINGS, AS WELL AS WE
WILL SEEK INPUT TO ADDRESS OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND, SEPARATE
STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL AREAS VERSUS AREAS THAT HAVE HIGH
CONCENTRATION OF COMMERCIAL, RESTAURANTS AND BARS, AND WHAT
THAT MIXED USE MAY LOOK LIKE.
WE ARE ALSO GOING TO -- THERE'S A LOT OF CONFLICT BETWEEN
THE MIXED USE WHEN YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL ON TOP OF
COMMERCIAL.
WE ARE GOING TO PUT THAT OUT THERE TO SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY
SAYS, AS WELL.
SO I DO HAVE A REQUEST WITH THIS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PLAN TO
REQUEST THAT COUNCIL CONTINUE THE MAY 28th WORKSHOP
DISCUSSION REGARDING ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS.
WE BELIEVE THAT WITH THIS WE CAN IDENTIFY THOSE HIGH DENSE
COMMERCIAL AREAS AS WELL AS THE MIXED USE AREAS.
YOU HAVE SOUTH HOWARD.
OUR CODE DOES NOT IDENTIFY ANY SPECIFIC ENTERTAINMENT
DISTRICTS.
SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TAKE A LOOK AT YBOR AREA, AND
REALLY -- AS A PART OF THIS OUTREACH PROCESS, REALLY
IDENTIFY WHERE THOSE HIGH CONCENTRATION AREAS ARE TO MAKE
THAT REQUEST, AND THEN PRESENT A SCORECARD WITHOUT FINDINGS
AT A FUTURE WORKSHOP SO YOU CAN THEN TAKE A LOOK AT AREAS
THAT YOU MAY WANT TO DESIGNATE AS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS,
AS A PART OF THIS WORKSHOP.
IT'S REALLY NOT NECESSARILY TO CONTINUE BUT TO CONSOLIDATE
THE EFFORT IN THE AREA.
THE PRIVATE CITIZEN WORK GROUP, AGAIN WE WILL RUN
CONCURRENTLY AND INDEPENDENTLY FROM OUR TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS,
AND WE ARE REQUESTING THAT WE PRESENT OUR FINDINGS AND
RECOMMENDATIONS, WHETHER THAT IS PRIVATE CITIZENS GROUP
PRESENT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE WILL PRESENT OUR
FINDINGS FROM THESE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS AT AN OCTOBER
22ND, 2022 WORKSHOP.
15:40:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
15:40:21 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK IT'S A GOOD EFFORT AND IDEA.
I THINK ONE MEETING FOR RESIDENTS IS NOT GOING TO CUT IT.
THIS IS A REALLY -- I MEAN, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE HUNDREDS
PEOPLE.
15:40:36 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
IN ALL FAIRNESS WE HAVE HAD FIVE PUBLIC
WORKSHOPS BEFORE THIS, SO BEFORE I EVEN WAS HERE,
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, THERE WERE A SERIES OF PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT MEETING WITH THE SPECIFIC BUSINESS DISTRICTS AND
RESIDENT IN THE AREA, AND I THINK THERE WERE A TOTAL OF FIVE
PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETINGS.
THEN THERE WAS A PUBLIC WORKSHOP.
WE DEVELOPED RECOMMENDATIONS.
COUNCIL THEN APPROVED AN ORDINANCE THAT HAD THOSE
RECOMMENDATIONS, SO THERE'S BEEN A CERTAIN LEVEL OF
OUTREACH, AND I COULD PROVIDE YOU MINUTES FROM THOSE
MEETINGS AND THE NOTES.
BUT THAT'S WHY WE WERE THINKING OF SEPARATING BUSINESSES AND
RESIDENTS, AND I DO AGREE THIS IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING.
15:41:21 >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE ONLY REASON I SUGGEST IT IS BECAUSE OF
WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED.
THERE HAVE BEEN MEETINGS THAT AGAIN COMING FROM THE
COMMUNITY SIDE, PEOPLE HEARD, OH, IT'S BEING REPEALED.
SO EVERYONE THINKS, OKAY, WE ARE STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
AND I AM JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE THE
OVERLYING FEELING.
AND I AM GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO
THINK ONE MEETING IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH.
SO GOOD LUCK ON THAT.
BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE MORE THAN ONE MEETING.
15:41:51 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I DON'T DISAGREE.
IF YOU DO DESIRE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC MEETINGS, I AM GOING TO
ASK YOU FOR MORE TIME TO REPORT BACK IN OCTOBER.
WE CAN'T STAFF THE AMOUNT OF MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE
CONCURRENTLY WITH THE OTHER INITIATIVES AND THINGS THAT WE
ARE DOING PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON RIGHT NOW.
SO I DON'T DISAGREE.
AND WE ARE NOT DISAGREEING TO DO MORE OUTREACH.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY CLEAR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON WHICH
ENDMENT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO PRESENT TO THE RESIDENTS AND
TO THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OWNERS.
AND SO THIS OUTREACH IS REALLY TO LISTEN TO THEM, TAKE NOTES
ON WHAT WERE THE COMMON THEMES, PRESENT THAT BACK TO YOU AT
THAT OCTOBER WORKSHOP, WHILE WE HAVE THE PRIVATE CITIZEN
GROUP.
THEY WILL PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE HAVE SPOKEN TO THE DEVELOPER THAT HAS ORGANIZED THAT
GROUP.
I THINK THAT IS A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THEM TO HAVE
THEIR MEETING AND PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEN WE WERE THINKING AT THE WORKSHOP, THIS WILL BE A
WORKING SESSION BETWEEN STAFF AND COUNCIL, AND BASED ON WHAT
THE FINDINGS ARE, YOU HEAR FROM THE PRIVATE GROUP, WE CAN
DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS TOGETHER THAT WE CAN THEN PUT IN AN
ORDINANCE TO MOVE FORWARD.
15:43:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
15:43:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IN THEORY IT SOUND GOOD.
BUT IN REALITY, I DON'T NOBODY HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK.
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO GET RESULTS.
YOU REALLY -- THINK THAT YOUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT IS
GOING TO SPEND MONEY TO ADVERTISE, TV AND RADIO, SO PEOPLE
CAN KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.
I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE MAYBE AN OUTSOURCE PERSON TO
DO THIS, OR COMPANY TO DO THIS WORK.
15:43:34 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
TO DO THE WORKSHOPS?
15:43:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
TO DO THE ENGAGEMENT.
THIS IS A BIG DEAL, BIG THING WITH THE PEOPLE.
YOU JUST SAID IT'S A BIG UNDERTAKING.
SO WHY UNDERTAKING SOMETHING -- IT COULD TAKE LONGER TO DO
RATHER THAN JUST GO AHEAD AND SPEND THE MONEY ASK, THIS
COUNCIL FOR THE MONEY, THE COST TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AS A
WHOLE, THIS WHOLE CITY, ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, AS IT DEALS
WITH ENFORCEMENT, WHATEVER, AND LET SOMEBODY ELSE RUN WITH
THE BALL AND BRING BACK THE RESULTS TO YOU, AND THEN WE GO
AHEAD AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO BE DO.
BUT TO JUST KEEP KICKING IT AND KICKING IT --
15:44:07 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
IN ALL FAIRNESS WE ARE NOT KICKING THE CAN
DOWN THE ROAD.
15:44:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I UNDERSTAND.
THE SUBJECT OF THE PUBLIC USE WE KEEP PUTTING IT OFF.
WE HAVE TO GET SOME CLOSURE SOONER VERSUS THAN LATER.
15:44:17 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I DON'T DISAGREE, COUNCILMAN GUDES, WHICH
IS WHY WE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN THIS COUNCIL
REPEALED THE ORDINANCE.
AND SO WHAT I AM PROPOSING TO YOU, I THINK, IS THE QUICKEST
WAY FOR US TO GET SOME RESOLUTION.
IF WE WERE TO ENGAGE SOMEONE, I ALWAYS ACCEPT HELP WHEN WE
NEED HELP, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE PROCUREMENT AND
GETTING SOMEONE ON BOARD AND DOING THAT IS GOING TO TAKE
LONGER THAN THAT.
WE HAVE DONE, NOT WE, STAFF, THIS COUNCIL HAS DONE A LOT OF
LEG WORK OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF ON THIS ISSUE THROUGH
ENGAGEMENT, AND WE KNOW THAT THE FIVE ISSUES THAT CAME BACK
TO COUNCIL WERE COMMON THEMES.
YOU KNOW, THEY WERE THE DEFINITIONS OF THE ORDINANCE.
A LOT OF THINGS ARE RECURING THEMES.
ENFORCEMENT WAS A BIG PART WHICH IS WHY WE BROUGHT THOSE
FIVE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK.
15:45:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU HAD THESE FIVE MEETINGS.
TELL ME THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE TO THESE
MEETINGS.
15:45:16 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
COUNCILMAN GUDES, I WOULD HAVE TO GET A
SIGN-UP SHEET.
I CAME PREPARED TO PRESENT TO YOU AN ENGAGEMENT PLAN THAT
YOU ASKED US TO DO AFTER THE ORDINANCE WAS REPEALED.
THAT'S WHAT I AM HERE -- I CAN REQUEST THAT INFORMATION.
15:45:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WOULD ASK, I WOULD ASK, MOVING FORWARD,
AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TWO MEETINGS, TWO DIFFERENT
MEETINGS, THAT YOU MAKE SURE TO HAVE REAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
SO YOU CAN REALLY HAVE THE PUBLIC THERE.
15:45:43 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I THINK WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE IT IN THE
BUDGET FOR US TO EXTEND OUR OUTREACH JUST BEYOND FACEBOOK,
EVEN IF WE DID PAID ADS.
I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY PUSH OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS AND I
CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU WHAT WE DID TO ENHANCE OUR OUTREACH
EFFORTS.
WE DEFINITELY CAN ABSORB THAT AND DO THAT IN THE BUDGET NOW
WITH THE PLAN THAT I AM PROPOSING TO YOU RIGHT NOW.
MY FRIEND IS HERE SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH ME AND HAS BEEN
WAITING PATIENTLY TO SPEAK.
15:46:12 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
COUNCIL, I THINK WHAT MS. TRAVIS IS TRYING TO EXPLAIN IF YOU
RECALL, WE WENT THROUGH A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS AND
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PRIOR AMENDMENT TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE,
AND I THINK WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT PLAN IS TO TRY TO FOCUS THE DISCUSSION, NOT TO
WHOLESALE REWRITE OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE UNDERTOOK LAST TIME AND IT'S NOT WHAT
COUNCIL APPROVED.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE MAJOR AREAS OF
CONCERN, AND TRY TO DO THAT THROUGH THIS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
PROCESS, AND THEN COME BACK AND HAVE A BROAD DISCUSSION WITH
YOU AT THE OCTOBER WORKSHOP SO THAT COUNCIL CAN PROVIDE US
DIRECTION AS TO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCORPORATED INTO
AN ORDINANCE, THAT WE CAN DRAFT AND BRING BACK TO YOU.
15:46:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.
15:47:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE WAS BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD FROM THE
CONSTITUENTS THAT BARS AND RESTAURANTS WERE STARTING TO
ENCROACH IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
YOU WOULD HAVE AMPLIFIED SOUND COMING OUT OF THE PATIO AREA
WHERE THE PATIO WAS ABUTTING SOME RESIDENTS AND THE MUSIC
WAS GOING ON UNTIL 2:00 OR 3:00 IN THE MORNING.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I WAS HOPING THIS ORDINANCE WOULD HAVE A BLANKET EFFECT
THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY AND THAT WE COULD THEN CARVE OUT
SECTIONS THAT WERE CLASSIFIED AS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
MOST PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA KNOW WHERE THE
ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS ARE.
YBOR CITY AND PARTS OF SOUTH HOWARD.
WELL, NOW WE ARE HAVING ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS THAT PEOPLE
ARE PERCEIVING ON FRANKLIN.
HOWEVER, WE ARE HAVING RESIDENTS COMPLAIN THERE.
ARMATURE WORKS IS CONSIDERED AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
HOWEVER, THERE'S RESIDENTIAL ALL AROUND IT.
SO I AM GLAD YOU POINTED OUT THAT, YES, THERE ARE
RESIDENTIAL AREAS, THERE ARE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, AND
NOW WE ARE SEEING THE MIXED USE WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAYING,
LISTEN, I HAVE GOT TO GET UP AT 6:00 IN THE MORNING, 7:00 IN
THE MORNING, AND THIS MUSIC IS STILL BLARING AT 1:00 OR 2:00
AT NIGHT.
SO AGAIN, THIS WAS WELL ON ITS WAY.
BEFORE THERE WAS A CHANGE OF HEART.
AND YOU ARE CORRECT, THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS WITH
THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS.
WE REPEALED IT.
THAT SET US BACK.
I THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK YOU ARE DOING AND I AM LOOKING
FORWARD TO WHAT YOU FIND OUT.
15:48:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
15:48:46 >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE OF THE THINGS I DID PROFESSIONALLY
BEFORE I TOOK THIS POSITION WAS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
SO IF YOU ALL WANT TO TALK ABOUT -- ONE OF THE THINGS I
WOULD RECOMMEND BECAUSE OF THE LONG TIMELINE, LET'S PROCEED
WITH WHAT YOU HAVE, BUT IT'S A MULTI-ROUND THING.
WE HAVE GOT TO KEEP ADAPTING IT.
AND WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF CONSENSUS AROUND SOME THINGS.
THAT'S WHY I VOTED TO KEEP THE LAST ORDINANCE BECAUSE I
WANTED TO DO SOMETHING.
WE UNDID IT.
SO WE NEED TO KEEP DOING SOMETHING.
JUST KEEP WORKING ON IT.
AND I THINK YOU SHOULD AT LEAST DO IT BY DISTRICT
EVENTUALLY, AND MAYBE EVEN SOME DISTRICTS LIKE IN ORLANDO'S
DISTRICT, HE'S GOT LIKE PARTS OF TAMPA HEIGHTS, SEMINOLE
HEIGHTS, AND THEN YBOR AND EAST TAMPA.
SO THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT AREAS, AND DOWNTOWN, WHICH ARE
VERY DIFFERENT.
AND SO I THINK EACH ONE HAS ITS OWN UNIQUE AREAS.
THE NEXT THING IS, PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH THE TERM
ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
THERE'S A MOTION THAT I MADE SOME TIME AGO THAT'S COMING UP,
I GUESS, TO LOOK AT WHERE WE CAN PUT AN ENTERTAINMENT
DISTRICT.
THERE ARE AREAS WHERE THERE'S ENTERTAINMENT.
BUT I WOULDN'T CALL ANY OF THEM ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS.
AND MY OFFICE IS IN YBOR.
I'M IN YBOR EVERY DAY AND I AM HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH
LEADERS AND OTHER PEOPLE IN YBOR, AND THERE IS A GROUP OF
PEOPLE WHO RUN THE DANCE CLUBS AND NIGHT CLUBS, AND WE NEED
THAT, AND WE NEED IT IN OTHER PLACES, TOO.
BUT JUST ABOUT ANYBODY YOU ASK IN YBOR TODAY, THEIR VISION
FOR YBOR IS NOT TO BE A QUOTE-UNQUOTE ENTERTAINMENT
DISTRICT.
THAT WAS A 90s VISION.
AS MR. MIRANDA SAID, YBOR HAS ALWAYS BEEN ENTERTAINMENT BUT
TURNING INTO A LATE NIGHT BAR DISTRICT ESPECIALLY WHEREOF
THERE ARE SHOOTINGS AFTER 3:00 LIKE HAPPENED LAST WEEKEND
AGAIN IS NOT THE VISION PEOPLE HAVE FOR YBOR.
AS WE GET A FEW THOUSAND MORE PEOPLE MOVING INTO YBOR WITH
ALL THE NEW UNITS, THE VISION IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT.
SO I WOULD JUST BE SENSITIVE.
WE WANT TO NOT HURT ANY OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE,
BUT AS THE LANDLORDS START TO TRANSITION THE USES OF THOSE
BUILDINGS WHICH THEY WANT TO DO, WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO
ALL THE RESIDENTS THERE, AND WE NEED TO HAVE THAT
COMBINATION.
WE HAVE URBAN AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE OFFICES,
ENTERTAINMENT, RESTAURANTS, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE AN
ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
AND PLEASE PUT A HUGE STAR, PLEASE DO NOT EVER CALL SOUTH
HOWARD AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
MY GRASS RATS NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT CAME FROM THERE, THIS
GROUP CATHOLIC ON TAMPA USED TO MEET AT HOG OH'S AND THE
WHOLE PURPOSE OF IT WAS TO PUSH BACK AGAINST THE BARS, AND
THE NEIGHBORHOODS LOST, BUT I GET CALLS ALMOST EVERY DAY OF
ANGRY PEOPLE.
IF WE HAD A MEETING WHERE WE CALLED SOUTH HOWARD AN
ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT WE WOULD HAVE 500 PEOPLE HERE REALLY,
REALLY MAD.
THEY WANT THE BARS SHUT DOWN.
NOW THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
AND THERE'S SOME GOOD ACTORS AND BAD ACTORS.
BUT THEY WOULD LOVE TO TURN IT INTO SOMETHING LIKE A
CULINARY DISTRICT WHERE YOU HAVE GOT BURN'S ON ONE END AND
CRAZY PARTY PLACE ON THE OTHER END.
AND EVENTUALLY IT'S GOING TO TRANSITION TO SOMETHING THAT'S
NOT 4:00 IN THE MORNING PARTYING AND THROWING STUFF ALL OVER
THE PLACE.
AND THAT HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE.
I ASKED THE QUESTION COULD IT GO IN DREW PARK?
DRAW PARK PEOPLE SAID NO.
BUT WE NEED AN OUTLET FOR THAT BUT IT CAN'T BE IN THE MIDDLE
OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I REMEMBERED REMEMBER IN THE 90 WHEN JOHN AGRI WAS
LOOKING TO CONVERT RETAIL PLACES TO RESTAURANTS, WHAT CAN WE
ACTIVATE ALONG THERE?
THERE USED TO BE A HARDWARE STORE AND DRY CLEANER AND OTHER
KIND OF USES.
NOW THERE'S BARS AND PARTYING LATE AT NIGHT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD EVER SIGNED UP FOR.
IT WASN'T LIKE THEY WERE THERE AND MOVED IN.
THE NEIGHBORS WERE THERE AND THEN THE BARS MOVED IN.
SO WE NEED TO CAREFULLY LOOK AT THAT, AND I THINK FIGURE
OUT, IN PARTICULAR, HOW TO SOLVE THE SOUTH HOWARD PROBLEM,
BECAUSE IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
AND THE LAST THING I WILL SAY IS I FORGOT WHAT WE DID WITH
CARS, BUT A LOT OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS WE GET IN
NEIGHBORHOOD IS CARS WHERE PEOPLE ARE OFFERING TO THE PUBLIC
FREE LOUD MUSIC, AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS DON'T WANT IT.
THE HOTEL OPERATORS IN YBOR NOW, IN JUST THE LAST WEEK OR
TWO, HAVE STARTED GETTING TWO, THREE STARS ON TRIP ADVISORS
AND OTHER PLACES BECAUSE OF THE LOUD MUSIC FROM CARS DRIVING
BY.
AND YOU SIT THERE AT KING CORONA, AND THE GLASS SHAKES
BECAUSE IT'S SO LOUD.
AND THAT I THINK IS AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
BUT EVEN IN A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE THINK THERE'S A LOT OF
ENTERTAINMENT WE NEED TO SOMEHOW STOP THAT.
WE HAVE ONE GENTLEMAN THAT COMES ALMOST EVERY WEEK ABOUT HOW
THE BOOM MUSIC IS GOING BY HIS HOUSE.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION FOR THAT, ESPECIALLY AFTER
10:00, 11:00 AT NIGHT.
THANK YOU.
15:53:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I HAD SAID THAT PEOPLE
PERCEIVE THE SOUTH HOWARD AS AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
MY SOUTH HOWARD WAS ONLY TINY TAP, MACDINTON'S AND SHADOW
BOX.
THAT WAS THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
15:54:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MY ENTERTAINMENT IS A BOOK STORE AND --
[ LAUGHTER ]
15:54:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CAPTAIN OWENS, I WANT YOU TO TELLS US, HOW
DO WE STOP LOUD CARS WITH SOUND?
I KNOW WRITING TICKETS, THAT'S A HARD TAP.
15:54:30 >> SO MANY SPEAKERS.
IT'S A DIFFICULT CHALLENGE THAT WE ARE FACING ACROSS THE
CITY.
I WOULD SAY DOWNTOWN, CHANNEL DISTRICT, SOHO, IT HAPPENS
EVERYWHERE.
WE FOLLOW THEM AROUND.
WE WRITE TICKETS.
IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT SEEMS TO BE A --
REOCCURRING THING.
I AM AWARE MR. DANIELS AND HIS ISSUES IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S NOT AN EASY THING TO FIX WHEN THEY SELL SPEAKERS EVERY
DAY.
15:54:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
EVERY DAY.
15:54:55 >>LUIS VIERA:
I WAS GOING TO SAY, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE
NEED TO DO MOTIONWISE TO BRING THIS BACK?
THE NEXT STEP, I GUESS.
15:55:06 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
SO THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, AGAIN, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A
LOT OF REFERENCE TO THAT.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF -- A COUPLE OF AREAS WHERE THERE ARE
CONCENTRATIONS OF ENTERTAINMENT VENUES, THAT CURRENTLY THE
CITY CODE DOES NOT DEFINE ANY AREA IN PARTICULAR AS AN
ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LIKE TO -- AGAIN,
THERE'S A MOTION.
I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN CARLSON MADE IT.
THERE'S AN ITEM TO COME BACK, SCHEDULED TO COME BACK TO
COUNCIL AT YOUR MAY WORKSHOP AGENDA TO DISCUSS ESTABLISHMENT
OF ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS AND FIGURE OUT WHERE IT WOULD BE
APPROPRIATE IN THE CITY.
SO WE WOULD ASK YOU TO REMOVE THAT FROM YOUR WORKSHOP AGENDA
AND CONTINUE THAT ITEM TO THE OCTOBER WORKSHOP THAT WE
SUGGESTED TO BRING BACK ALL OF THESE ITEMS.
AND THEN IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CERTAIN AREAS
DESIGNATED AS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, ARE YOU ALSO ASKING
US TO HAVE SEPARATE REGULATIONS THAT WOULD GOVERN THEM AS
FAR AS NOISE, OR OTHER ASPECTS OF THESE ENTERTAINMENT
DISTRICTS?
BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE THAT DO
DEFINE, YOU KNOW, MIAMI IS ONE AREA, CITY OF ORLANDO HAS
ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, BUT THEY TREAT THOSE AREAS
DIFFERENTLY IN CERTAIN ASPECTS.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD ALSO LIKE US TO CONSIDER?
15:56:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AND IF WE ARE GOING TO GO THE DIRECTION OF
ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEFINE
THOSE DISTRICTS.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE PERMANENT BOUNDARIES.
BECAUSE I HATE TO SEE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW A PERSON
WANTING TO OPEN A BAR OR SOMETHING AND THEY SAY, WAIT A
SECOND, ACROSS THE STREET THEY CAN HAVE IT.
HOW COME I CAN'T?
SO THOSE AREAS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY STRICT.
15:56:59 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO CAUTION
AGAINST CALLING AREAS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW.
THE WAY THAT YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT IS DEFINED AND AS
COUNCIL MAY RECALL, THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE NOISE IS
MEASURED ON A DECIBEL LEVEL.
BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE 7th AVENUE OR 8th AVENUE
STRIPE.
IT GOES ALL THE WAY NORTH OF I-4.
IT GOES WELL EAST OF THE 22ND AVENUE.
SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT TERMS WE ARE USING AT
THIS POINT.
AND SO PART OF OUR EFFORT WE WANTED TO INCLUDE WAS TO FIGURE
OUT WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE.
AND I KNOW THAT WE TALKED TO TPD ABOUT GETTING AGREES AND
THINGS LIKE THAT TO HAVE A GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION SO IT
MAKES IT EASIER FOR TPD TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE
AND MAKES ENFORCEMENT, ENHANCES ENFORCEMENT FOR THEM.
15:57:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AM SO GLAD YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE ANYTHING
EAST OF 22ND STREET WILL BE PERCEIVED AS RESIDENTIAL.
ANYTHING NORTH OF 10th OR PALM WILL BE PERCEIVED AS
RESIDENTIAL.
SO THANK YOU.
15:58:02 >> SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
15:58:06 >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
15:58:08 >>BILL CARLSON:
THE ITEM, I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE DETAILS,
BUT THE ITEMS THAT YOU JUST REFERENCED TO LOOK AT
ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, IF WE COULD MOVE IT, I MAKE A
MOTION TO MOVE IT TO OCTOBER --
15:58:19 >> OCTOBER 26th?
27th.
15:58:22 >>BILL CARLSON:
OCTOBER 27th TO APPEAR --
15:58:26 >> WITH THE OTHER NOISE, YES.
15:58:28 >>BILL CARLSON:
WITH THE OTHER NOISE ORDINANCE.
15:58:34 >> AND I WILL SECOND THAT.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND BY COUNCIL
VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ARE WE GOOD?
15:58:44 >>BILL CARLSON:
WAS THERE ANOTHER MOTION?
15:58:47 >> WE ARE GOING TO PROCEED WITH THE PLAN AS MRS. TRAVIS
OUTLINED.
AND LET ME REMIND COUNCIL WHEN WE BROUGHT FORWARD THE PRAYER
NOISE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, WE CAME TO YOU AT A WORKSHOP, WE
THEN INCORPORATED THOSE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COUNCIL
APPROVED INTO AN ORDINANCE, WHICH WE THEN BROUGHT BACK TO
YOU AT ANOTHER WORKSHOP.
SO THERE WILL BE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, AS
WE PERCEIVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
IT WON'T JUST BE THESE TWO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS.
15:59:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR?
15:59:15 >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION.
I THINK I REMEMBER FROM A PRIOR MEETING THAT THERE ARE ONLY
TWO DECIBEL METERS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND WE NEEDED
TO BUY MORE.
I DO REMEMBER THAT CORRECTLY?
15:59:27 >> THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED.
WE SHOULD HAVE THEM THE MIDDLE OF NEXT MONTH.
15:59:31 >>BILL CARLSON:
HOW MANY DID WE BUY?
15:59:33 >> SIX.
THAT'S SUFFICIENT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW ALL WE HAVE IS YBOR
CITY.
15:59:36 >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
I THINK IN YOUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT YOU OUGHT TO MAKE SURE
THAT PUBLIC LEADERS KNOW ABOUT THAT, TOO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
15:59:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR HELPING YBOR
CITY THROUGH ALL THIS TIME, A GREAT RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL
SECTION OF OUR CITY.
THANK YOU, CAPTAIN OWEN.
15:59:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 50,
COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL HAVE TO LEAVE AFTER THIS ITEM.
WE STILL HAVE TWO ITEMS, 52 AND 53.
ARE WE GOOD WITH FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS LISTENING TO THOSE
LAST TWO ITEMS?
OR PERHAPS POSTPONING THEM TO THE END OF NEXT WEEK'S
WORKSHOP?
BECAUSE I SEE THERE'S A MAY 2nd DEADLINE HERE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK, MS. FEELEY?
DO YOU HAVE BOTH ITEMS OR JUST 52?
16:00:23 >>ABBYE FEELEY:
DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
MANAGEMENT.
WE ONLY HAVE ITEM 52 AND THAT DOES REQUIRE TRANSMITTAL TO
THE STATE FOR THAT FUNDING BY MAY 2nd.
SO I WOULD ASK, WE HAVE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION.
IT'S ABOUT EIGHT SLIDES, AND WE PLAN TO KEEP IT BRIEF.
16:00:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ABOUT WHAT ABOUT 53?
16:00:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
16:00:47 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN WE JUST MOVE IT WITHOUT THE
PRESENTATION ON 52?
16:00:51 >> THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE DONE WITH THE PRESENTATION TO
YOU.
16:00:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE NEED TO HEAR 53 TODAY?
CAN WE POSTPONE IT TO PERHAPS THE END OF NEXT THURSDAY'S
WORKSHOP?
16:01:01 >>ROB ROSNER:
THERE'S NO TIME CERTAIN BUT IT'S BEEN DELAYED
ONCE.
16:01:08 >> IT'S A MATTER OF HAVING THE CONSULTANTS AND DO THE
PRESENTATION.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE.
16:01:19 >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT'S FINE, THAT'S FINE.
KEEP IT TEN MINUTES.
16:01:21 >>ROB ROSNER:
IT WAS JUST AN OVERVIEW.
16:01:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE MARCIE HAMILTON AND CARL BRODY.
16:01:36 >> CARL BRODY FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO REPORT TO
YOU TO PROVIDE SOME OPTIONS FOR CREATING A SECOND CHANCE OF
BAN THE BOX ORDINANCE.
WE WENT ACROSS COUNTRY TO DETERMINE WHAT THE VIABILITY OF
DIFFERENT AVAILABLE BAN THE BOX ORDINANCES.
WE FOUND AFTER DOING SOME INTERNAL RESEARCH FIRST TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE FELT COMFORTABLE THAT IF WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY
CHALLENGE TO IT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SURVIVE.
WE FELT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE ON A COURT LEVEL
DETERMINING THAT IT WOULD BE -- ANY CHALLENGE WOULD JUST
HAVE TO BE REASONABLENESS STANDARD WHICH MEANS WE WOULD JUST
HAVE TO GET ENOUGH SUPPORT PREDICATE, AS THEY SAY, TO
SUPPORT THE DECISION TO HAVE A BAN THE BOX ORDINANCE FOR THE
CITY, AND THE SUPPORT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM, WHICH
IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER TODAY WHEN WE HAD THE GROUPS UP
HERE TO DISCUSS THE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS THAT ARISE FROM EX
OFFENDERS NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND SUFFICIENT EMPLOYMENT.
SO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
WE LOOKED AROUND THE STATE AND WE SAW THAT REALLY SEVERAL
MUNICIPALITIES AND OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DO HAVE
PROVISIONS.
MOST OF THEM DON'T HAVE THEM IN THEIR ORDINANCE.
MOST OF THEM DO HR AND OTHER MATTERS.
BUT THE PRIMARY COMPARABLES THAT WE FOUND WERE IN BROWARD
COUNTY AND MIAMI BEACH, AND IN JACKSONVILLE.
SO EACH OF THEM PROVIDE DIFFERENT ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS,
WHICH IS A REAL ISSUE.
ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS FOR THESE ARE EITHER THE RFP PROCESS,
DEPARTMENT, IF A CONTRACTOR DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE
REQUIREMENTS OF PERMITTING SOME TYPE OF BAN THE BOX, SECOND
CHANCE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.
WE ALSO HAVE PENALTIES WHERE -- NONRESPONSIVE BID.
SO IF PART OF THE BID DID NOT INCLUDE ASSURANCE THAT THEY
WERE GOING TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S BAN THE BOX
REQUIREMENTS, THEN THEY WOULD BE DEEMED NONRESPONSIVE, WHICH
MEANS THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO NOT GO FORWARD.
AND WE ALSO CAN WITHHOLD PAYMENT FOR NONCOMPLIANCE.
SEPARATELY, IF WE WANT TO INCLUDE A POINT SYSTEM, WE COULD
DO THAT, AND THAT WOULD BE TO ADD UNDER THE RFP, CNA
PROCESS.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF OUR OPTIONS OUT THERE IN TERMS OF
MOVING FORWARD, SOME KIND OF ORDINANCE, TO FURTHER ENFORCE
WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME
PROVISIONS IN PLACE, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE
CITY OF TAMPA AS AN EMPLOYER.
THE CITY OF TAMPA ITSELF DOES NOT DO A BACKGROUND CHECK
UNTIL AFTER THE PERSON HAS BEEN DEEMED A FINALIST FOR THE
POSITION.
SO WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE.
IF WE WANT TO EXPAND THAT TO REQUIRE VENDORS AND CONTRACTORS
WHO WE WORK WITH TO INCLUDE PROVISIONS LIKE THAT, WE CAN.
WE JUST HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT OPTIONS WE WANT TO TAKE IN
TERMS OF THE COMMITTEE.
16:05:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I TALKED TO MR. BENNETT YESTERDAY ABOUT
THIS.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE SEEN BAN THE BOX A LONG TIME.
IF WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE THAT MAKING IT WORK, AS SOON AS THE
PERSON COMES IN, THEY ASK, AND THE APPLICATION IS IN THE
TRASH, AND THEY MOVE FORWARD TO A FINAL PROCESS.
BUT I BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE PROBLEM, YOU ARE TALKING
ABOUT PUTTING THIS ORDINANCE TOGETHER, AND MAKING A CONTRACT
THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY USE, YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOME ASSURANCE TO
GO ALONG WITH THAT.
16:05:48 >>CARL BRODY:
CORRECT.
16:05:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE, THEY ARE BEING TOLD
BY THEIR CARRIERS, DON'T DO THAT.
THAT'S WHERE YOU RUN INTO A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE BOARD OF
HEALTH.
I THINK WHAT MR. BENNETT WAS TALKING ABOUT, HOPEFULLY YOU
CAN GO BACK AND RESEARCH THAT SO WE CAN BE ABLE TO LOOK AND
SEE, WHERE IS THERE INSURANCE, BUT WHERE IS THE PROCESS
WHERE WE CAN HELP THAT CONTRACTOR TO HELP US GET PEOPLE
EMPLOYED TO BE ABLE TO GET THEM EMPLOYED THROUGH THE
PROCESS.
SO I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND KIND OF RESEARCH
THAT, AND THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HELP SOME OF THESE FOLKS.
BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR CHALLENGE.
JUST BEING HONEST.
THAT IS GOING TO BE THE BIG CHALLENGE.
TALKING ABOUT CONTRACTORS AND PEOPLE WANT TO HIRE PEOPLE,
PUT BAN THE BOX ON HERE, WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO FIND IS YOU
ARE GOING TO FIND, THE CARRIER SAYS NO, OR WE CAN'T DO THIS.
I THINK WE HAVE TO PUT ANOTHER STEP IN THERE SO THEY CAN'T
SAY NO, SO WE HAVE AN INSURANCE POLICY, WE HAVE A BOND THAT
YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THAT SO THEY CAN'T GO THROUGH THE
PROCESS.
16:06:54 >>CARL BRODY:
THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO.
IT'S NOT SOME OF THE OTHER COMPARABLES --
16:07:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I KNOW THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE
SEEN -- LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T GET THAT ROADBLOCK OUT OF THE
WAY SOMEWHAT TO BE ABLE TO STOP THAT.
16:07:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
16:07:14 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
AND CHIEF BENNETT AND THEN BRAD BAIRD ON THIS ISSUE MAYBE
EIGHT, NINE, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE MONTHS AGO WHEN WE BEGAN
THIS PROCESS AND WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD COALITION OF PEOPLE
WHO SUPPORT THESE PROPOSALS INCLUDING FLORIDA RIGHTS
COALITION, JCC FEDERATION, OUR FRIEND IN THE CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE, AND REVEREND ABE BROWN MINISTRIES THAT HAVE BEEN
DOING THIS FOR SO VERY LONG, NATIONALLY ABOUT THREE QUARTERS
OF A MILLION AMERICANS WHO ARE RELEASED FROM INCARCERATION
EVERY YEAR AND STATS SHOW ABOUT TWO THIRD OF THOSE FOLKS ARE
RETURNING TO PRISON OR REARRESTED WITHIN THREE YEARS.
SO I THINK THAT IT'S ON LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO DO WHAT WE CAN
TO HELP ADDRESS THIS CRISIS FOR OUR FAMILIES, FOR OUR
COMMUNITIES, THAT RESULTS IN BROKEN FAMILIES, VIOLENT CRIME
AND SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
I KNOW CHIEF BENNETT SPOKE FROM THE HEART ON THE MANY THINGS
THAT HE HAS DONE.
I KNOW THAT HE'S TAKEN STEPS IN THIS ADMINISTRATION TO
INCREASE RECRUITMENT, AND HAVE A BROADER PICTURE FOR
RETURNING CITIZENS.
SO WHAT I AM GOING TO BE MOTIONING FOR IS A FEW THINGS,
WHICH IS, NUMBER ONE, I WANT AN ORDINANCE TO COME BACK FOR
US THAT HAS CONTRACTORS GIVEN ADDITIONAL POINTS TO
ENCOURAGEMENT TO, NUMBER ONE, BAN THE BOX, BUT NUMBER TWO,
AND I WILL LEAVE THIS TO YOU ALL WHEN IT COMES IN THE
SPECIFICS, ON A COMMITMENT ON HIRING RETURNING CITIZENS.
AND I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IN THAT -- AND I WANT TO
SPECIFY THIS -- IS NOT -- BECAUSE I SPOKE TO FLORIDA RIGHTS
RESTORATION COALITION ON THIS AND THEY GAVE ME A GOOD
POINTER WHICH IS IT'S NOT HIRING ON THE FRONT END BUT MAKING
SURE THAT THEY STAY WITH IT TOWARD THE END SO THEY DON'T
JUST HIRE THEM TO LET THEM GO.
WE HIRED THEM.
NOW WE ARE GOING TO LET THEM GO.
WE DON'T WANT THAT.
NUMBER TWO IS, I WANT SOMETHING TO COME BACK, BECAUSE I KNOW
CHIEF BENNETT HAS WORKED ON THIS AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING
WE OUGHT TO PROMOTE AS A CITY THAT WE ARE DOING INTERNALLY,
WHICH IS TO REPORT ANNUALLY ON THE NUMBER OF HIRED RETURNING
CITIZENS BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
AND THAT CAN BE SEPARATE.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT NEED TO BE PART OF AN ORDINANCE BUT I
THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
THE THIRD PART IS IT'S NOT PART OF AN ORDINANCE BUT I HAVE
BEEN WORKING WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONER GWEN MYERS IN
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMISSION ON A JOINT CITY-COUNTY
APPRENTICESHIP, AND IF IT'S APPRENTICESHIP, OBVIOUSLY STATE
CERTIFIED APPRENTICESHIP, OR TRAINING PROGRAM FOR RETURNING
CITIZENS.
IT CAN EITHER BE A GRANT FOR A PROGRAM LIKE READY FOR WORK,
ABE BROWN MINISTRIES, COUNTY BE A SEPARATE PROGRAM,
COMMISSIONER MYERS IS SEEKING, I BELIEVE, ABOUT $150 THAT
YOU.
I WOULD LOVE FOR THE CITY TO MATCH THAT.
16:10:10 >> WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
ON THAT, SO THERE WERE SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS THERE.
BUT THAT WAS PART OF YOUR MOTION, AND WE ARE DEFINITELY
MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO TAKE COORDINATION BETWEEN BOTH
OF US.
16:10:27 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
AND THE REASON THAT I AM DOING THIS IS A TEST PILOT BY GOING
ON FIRST BASE IS I WANT TO WIN THE CONFIDENCE OF TAXPAYERS
ON THIS ISSUE.
I WANT TO GET THIS ISSUE INTO THE MAINSTREAM 100%.
THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT IS LEFT OR RIGHT.
THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT AFFECT ALL OF OUR FAMILIES.
AND WE HAVE TO GIVE UP TO THE EXTENT THAT WE HAVE IT, I
CERTAINLY HAD IT IN MY LIFE, THE HYPOCRISY AND THE BIAS.
IT'S UN-AMERICAN, IN MY OPINION IT'S UNCHRISTIAN.
THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.
I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE SEPARATED IT INTO A FEW MOTIONS.
SO FIRST, MR. CHAIRMAN, FIRST I WOULD MOTION FOR AN
ORDINANCE.
HOW LONG DO YOU ALL NEED ON THAT?
16:11:10 >>CARL BRODY:
SAY 60 DAYS?
16:11:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JULY 14th.
16:11:17 >>LUIS VIERA:
I WOULD MOTION THAT STAFF COME BACK WITH A
DRAFT ORDINANCE ON ENCOURAGEMENT OF CONTRACTORS TO, NUMBER
ONE, HIRE RETURNING CITIZENS AND NUMBER TWO, TO BAN THE BOX,
ON THAT.
THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST MOTION.
AND COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE INSURANCE ISSUE.
I WANT TO INCORPORATE THAT.
THAT'S VERY CRITICAL.
16:11:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
[OFF MICROPHONE] WE CAN SEE HOW WE CAN DO
THAT.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A KEY COMPONENT TO SAYING, OKAY,
WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, BUT TWO DAYS, A WEEK, AND YOU ARE
GONE.
THAT'S KEY.
16:12:06 >>CARL BRODY:
THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS WE CAN LOOK INTO ON
THAT END.
YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE THIS IS PROVIDING PUBLIC
FUNDS TO A PRIVATE ENTITY, NOT FOR A SERVICE, WHICH IS
DIFFERENT THAN --
16:12:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WELL, I THINK MAYBE THE CITY HAS A WINDOW
TO WHAT WE SAID, IF YOU ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE, YOU CAN BE
A PART OF THAT WINDOW, AND WE CAN SEPARATE THE TWO.
16:12:34 >>LUIS VIERA:
FEASIBILITY.
16:12:38 >>CARL BRODY:
WE CAN LOOK INTO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND COUNCILMAN VIERA, DO YOU HAVE ANY PREFERENCE AS TO DATE?
I KNOW YOU REFERENCED THE POINTS INITIALLY.
DO YOU WANT THE POINTS TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE
ORDINANCE?
16:12:52 >>LUIS VIERA:
OH, YES, SIR.
THAT'S THE MAIN THING.
16:12:54 >>CARL BRODY:
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
16:12:56 >>LUIS VIERA:
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT CONTRACTORS WHO BAN
THE BOX AND HIRE RETURNING CITIZENS, AT THE END ARE GIVEN
INCENTIVES AND ARE REWARDED.
THAT'S OUR STARTING BASIS.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
16:13:09 >>CARL BRODY:
AND PART OF THE RFP PROCESS.
16:13:12 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
AND AGAIN, WITH THE FEASIBILITY THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES PUT IN
THERE INCORPORATES SO WE CAN INVESTIGATE THAT IN 60 DAYS.
AND THAT'S MY FIRST MOTION.
16:13:21 >>THE CLERK:
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, DO YOU WANT
THIS ORDINANCE TO BE BROUGHT BACK OUT OF DRAFT UNDER STAFF
REPORTS?
OR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION?
OKAY.
SO YOU NEED TO PLACE IT ON THE FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
16:13:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FIRST READING CONSIDERATION JULY
14th, REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
16:13:47 >>CARL BRODY:
ONE OTHER QUESTION.
DO WE WANT TO HAVE A CERTAIN PRAISE THRESHOLD?
I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE CITIES HAS 100,000.
ONE HAS 200,000.
THE LOWEST IS 100,000?
16:14:07 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
16:14:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
JULY 14th FIRST READING.
16:14:14 >>LUIS VIERA:
AND SECOND, WHICH I CAN COMBINE THESE ALL,
NUMBER ONE, MOTION TO HAVE ANNUAL REPORTING BY THE CITY, AND
WE CAN HAVE THAT TO COME UP --
16:14:24 >>> AUGUST 25th.
16:14:25 >>LUIS VIERA:
AND THEN EVERY AUGUST THEREAFTER.
SO ON THE NUMBER OF RETURNING CITIZENS THAT THE CITY IS
HIRING, SO THAT'S MY SECOND MOTION.
16:14:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MEMBER VIERA,
SECOND BY CITRO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
16:14:39 >>LUIS VIERA:
AND THEN THIRD WOULD BE TO REQUEST THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION APPROPRIATE UP TO $150 TO MATCH THE COUNTY'S
TEST PILOT INVESTMENT FOR APPRENTICESHIP AND/OR TRAINING
PROGRAM AND/OR GRANT FOR RETURNING CITIZENS.
THIS WOULD BE, I BELIEVE, A FIRST OF ITS KIND HERE IN THE
LOCAL AREA, THAT IS SPECIFICALLY GEARED TOWARDS THIS
POPULATION, TO EQUIP THEM WITH THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO HELP
THEM PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
16:15:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
16:15:11 >>LUIS VIERA:
AND IF I MAY, MAY I HAVE THAT COME BACK TO US
IN AUGUST.
16:15:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AUGUST 25th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
16:15:19 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, YES, YES.
16:15:20 >>LUIS VIERA:
AND IF YOU WILL PARDON ME, I HAVE TO EXCUSE
ME.
PLEASE EXCUSE ME.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
16:15:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
TWO MORE ITEMS TO GO.
ITEM NUMBER 52.
ABBYE FEELEY.
16:15:36 >> I AM CONNECTING.
KAYON, HOUSING FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION.
JUST COMING BEFORE YOU TO TALK ABOUT LOCAL HOUSING
ASSISTANCE PLAN WITH OUR FUNDING UNDER ADMINISTRATION, HAVE
ALWAYS TRADE TO COME BEFORE YOU WITH SOME TRANSPARENCY.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PLAN THAT WE ARE GETTING READY TO
SUBMIT.
SO AS WE GO TO THE NEXT, TO THE SECOND SLIDE, JUST A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'LL DISCUSS TODAY IS JUST FOR BACKGROUND,
WHAT ELHAP IS, JUST WHAT THOSE STRATEGIES LOOK LIKE AND TALK
A LITTLE ABOUT THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
GET.
SO OUR ELHAP VERY SIMILAR TO HOW WE HAVE OUR ACTION PLAN FOR
OUR FEDERAL DOLLARS, OUR LHAP, STATE INITIATIVE PARTNERSHIP
PROGRAM, EACH MUNICIPALITY HAS TO SUBMIT THAT LHAP IS THREE
YEARS.
OUR FISCAL YEAR FOR THE SHIP FUNDING IS FROM JULY 1st TO
JUNE 30th.
SO THE LHAP MAY 2nd OF THIS YEAR IS GOING TO GOVERN FY
23 TO FY 25.
AND THE LHAP IS GOING TO DETAIL REALLY HOW WE PLAN TO THEN
SPEAKS FUND THE NEXT THREE FISCAL YEARS.
THIS IS THE CREATION OF THE LHAP REALLY IS THE PURPOSE TO
MEET THE HOUSING NEED FOR THOSE WHO ARE VERY LOW, LOW AND
MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLD TO EXPAND THE PRODUCTION OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THE STATE FUNDS ARE THE ONLY FUNDS THAT WE REALLY HAVE THAT
ALLOWS US TO GO UP TO THE 140% AREA INCOME ASSOCIATION AS WE
PRESENT OUR LHAP IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE SPECIFIC
ON THE PROGRAMS AND THE STRATEGIES THAT WE CREATE SO THAT WE
CAN REALLY ADDRESS ALL THOSE FROM VERY LOW ALL THE WAY TO
MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLD.
IT DOES INCREASE THE AVAILABILITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
RENTAL UNITS AS WELL AS LOOKING AT PRESERVING UNITS, SO THIS
IS WHAT WE WHY WOULD USE SOMETIMES FOR OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB
TO PRESERVE THOSE UNITS.
WE LOOK TO DO PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP ALSO WITH OUR SHIP
FUNDING BECAUSE IT HAS A LITTLE BIT LESS RESTRICTIONS ON OUR
FEDERAL DOLLARS, SO BOTH OF OUR IN-FILL PROGRAMS, INFILL
PHASE 1 AND 2 WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE SHIP FUND TO UTILIZE
THOSE DOLLARS.
FLORIDA HOUSING COALITION, THAT'S THE AGENCY THAT PROGRAMS
THE SHIP DOLLARS, OUR STATE FUND.
AND SO I HAVE JUST LIST ADD FEW ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY.
IT CAN BE HOME OWNERSHIP ACTIVITY, CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY, AS
WELL AS ADMIN, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALSO
PUTTING SOME ADMIN DOLLARS IN.
IT HAS OWNERSHIP ACTIVITY, SO TO BREAK THAT DOWN IN LHAP IT
CAN BE ANYTHING FROM FORECLOSURE PREVENTION, ALSO FIRST-TIME
HOME BUYER PROGRAMS.
SO IT JUST GIVES A VERY VAGUE OVERVIEW.
WHEN WE DEVELOP THE STRATEGIES WE TRY TO MAKE IT A
STRAIGHTFORWARD APPROACH, SOMETHING THAT'S EASY TO READ.
THE STRATEGIES ARE NOT LIKELY -- IF WE DON'T PUT THEM IN THE
LHAP WE ARE NOT LIKELY TO BE ABLE TO FUND THEM FOR THE
UPCOMING YEAR.
AS WE PUT THE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS OUT, AND EXPECT RECIPIENTS
TO RESPOND TO THOSE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN THE
LHAP REALLY SPELLED OUT, PUTS WHAT THE LOAN TERM IS, IF WE
ARE GOING TO PUT A LIEN ON THAT HOME, IF WE PUT ANY FUND,
ALSO VERY SPECIFIC WHAT THE TARGET AUDIENCE IS, WHAT WE PLAN
TO DO, WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF AWARD, AND AS WELL AS
THE LOAN TERMS FOR THAT.
THE NEXT SLIDE WILL SHOW REALLY WHAT WE STARTED TO DO, SO
THE DRAFT IT LHAP WE PRESENTED THAT TO OUR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING COUNCIL WHICH IS OUR AHAC COMMITTEE TO GET SOME
INPUT FROM THEM, ALSO LOOKING AT THAT DRAFT.
WE DID HAVE TWO PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS, IN PERSON MEETINGS.
WE DID ONE IN THE MORNING AND DID ONE IN THE AFTERNOON JUST
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GAVE VARYING TIMES FOR PEOPLE TO
ATTEND.
THE 30-DAY PERIOD CLOSED APRIL 16th.
NOW WE ARE PRESENTING WHAT THE LHAP IS AND WE WILL SUBMIT
THAT FINAL LHAP TO FLORIDA HOUSING COALITION ON MAY 2nd.
THAT IS IT.
16:20:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
16:20:37 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM CURIOUS IF THE HOME OWNERSHIP
ACTIVITIES FOR THIS CYCLE INCLUDE THE POSSIBILITY OF
ASSISTANCE WITH THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES AND THOSE
TYPES OF THINGS FOR LOW-INCOME HOMEOWNERS.
16:20:53 >> NO, NOT FOR PROPERTY TAXES, NO.
16:20:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
16:21:00 >> IT'S NOT A STRATEGY THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT.
16:21:04 >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT JUST CAME UP RECENTLY AS SOMETHING THAT
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STRUGGLE WITH, BUT I KNOW THAT -- WELL,
I KNOW YOUR PLAN IS ALREADY PUT TOGETHER, BUT DEFINITELY FOR
FUTURE PLAN, I THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT
IT.
16:21:21 >> SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO WITH FLORIDA HOUSING
COALITION, ANY OTHER MUNICIPALS HAS DONE IT.
WEEK WE CAN CERTAINLY AMEND IT ONCE WE SUBMIT IT.
16:21:30 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE WHAT THE FEASIBILITY
IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I AM HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY.
THOSE ARE ON FIXED INCOMES, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY GOING TO
BE 3%, IT'S 3%.
IT'S THE HIGHEST THAT WE HAVE HAD IN RECENT MEMORY.
SO SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE JUST AREN'T SURE HOW WE ARE GOING TO
PAY FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE LIVING ON THEIR SOCIAL
SECURITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THANKS.
16:21:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LAST ITEM OF THE DAY, 53.
16:22:02 >> I BRING TODAY OUR REPORTS ON THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE
PROSPECTUS AND MARKET PLAN, AND THIS PORTION OF IT IS THE
COMPLETED, THE MARKET REPORT WHICH IS RIGHT BEFORE
CHRISTMAS.
WE COMPLETED THE PRO PECK SUCCESS AND BUILDING THE WEBSITE
TO BE A RESOURCE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO INVEST IN
OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
I HAVE GAI CONSULTANTS ONLINE AND THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU
A BRIEF REPORT ON THAT AND THEN ASK FOR SOME INPUT ABOUT HOW
YOU FEEL ABOUT SOME OF THE IDEAS ABOUT USING THIS TOOL AND
HOW WE PROMOTE THIS TOOL, BECAUSE THAT'S THE THIRD COMPONENT
OF OUR CONTRACT, AND THIS IS THE VERY LAST PIECE.
SO LOVE TO HEAR YOUR INPUT.
AND CAN WE GET LAURA SMITH ON LINE, PLEASE?
16:22:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SHE'S ON.
16:22:51 >> LAURA SMITH:
THANK YOU ALL FOR HANGING ON AND LETTING US
TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON.
I KNOW YOU HAVE HAD A BIT OF A DAY, SO WE ARE GOING TO TRY
TO GO THROUGH THIS IN A PRETTY QUICK FASHION SO WE CAN GET
THROUGH EVERYTHING.
DO I NEED TO SHARE THE PRESENTATION FROM MY SCREEN?
16:23:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, YES.
16:23:12 >> OKAY.
16:23:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL MAKE IT BIGGER THERE AND WE CAN
SEE IT.
16:23:33 >> I AM GOING TO SWITCH THE SCREEN BECAUSE IT'S SHOWING ME
THE WRONG SCREEN.
THAT'S THE ONE I WANT.
SO I AM ASSUMING YOU ALL CAN SEE THIS, THE SCREEN THAT
SHOWS --
16:23:49 >>> YES.
16:23:50 >> MY NAME IS LAURA SMITH, WITH GAI COMMUNITIES SOLUTIONS
GROUP AND I HAVE BEEN LEADING YOUR MARKET REPORT AND
OPPORTUNITY ZONE PROSPECTUS EFFORT ALONG WITH BO KEMP, AND
HE WAS ON OUR TEAM.
WE WERE SELECTED IN THE RFP PROCESS TO DO THIS WORK FOR YOU
ALL, AND WE ARE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO THE END.
SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO QUICKLY IS WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE
HAVE DONE THUS FAR AND WHERE WE STAND NOW AND WHAT OUR NEXT
STEPS ARE.
SO FIRST OF ALL, THIS PROJECT INVOLVES ESSENTIALLY THREE
COMPONENTS, THAT ALL HAPPEN IN THIS FIRST STAGE, WHICH ARE
THE MARKET REPORT, THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE PROSPECTUS, AND THE
MARKETING PLAN.
SO THE MARKET REPORT WE FINISHED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, THAT
WAS COMPLETED ABOUT NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.
WE ARE WRAPPING OUT THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE PROSPECTUS NOW TO
GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL ON HOW THAT'S COME TOGETHER.
THEN THE MARKETING PLAN WILL BE PROVIDED TO STAFF TO BE USED
AS AN ONGOING TOOL FOR IMPLEMENTATION AND NEXT STEPS.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AREAS THAT YOU HAVE GOT, WE HAVE
BASICALLY 22 OPPORTUNITY ZONES THAT ARE IN TAMPA, BUT EIGHT
OF THOSE FALL INTO THE FIVE DISTINCT AREAS.
WE LOOKED AT THOSE FIVE DISTINCT AREAS, AND SORT OF CREATED
A BRANDING FOR EACH OF THEM, SO YOU HAVE THE URBAN CORE,
EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, DREW PARK/AIRPORT, AND THEN ALSO THE
UNIVERSITY AREA.
AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THOSE LAY OUT ON THE MAPS HERE.
THESE ARE THE TOTAL OF ALL THE ZONES THAT FALL INTO THOSE
AREAS.
SO THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT FALL INTO THE TAMPA AREA, YOU HAVE
GOT THREE THAT FALL INTO THE URBAN CORE AREA, AND FIVE UP
HERE IN THE UNIVERSITY AREA AS WELL AS A COUPLE IN WEST
TAMPA AND A COUPLE IN DREW PARK.
SO WE DID A SERIES OF STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENTS WHICH WE HAVE
BEEN DOING SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS AND YOU CAN
SEE HERE WE WORKED WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS, WE ALSO LOOKED
TO FIND INVESTORS AND DEVELOPMENT FACILITATORS, AND SPOKE
WITH EACH OF YOUR -- ADVISORY COMMITTEES. THERE WERE SOME
THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DIRECTLY PRESENT TO DURING OUR
REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETINGS, BUT IN THOSE SETTINGS WE DID
STILL PROVIDE THEM SAMPLES OR RECORDINGS OF THE OTHER
PRESENTATIONS WE DID FOR THE OTHER DISTRICTS.
SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY PART OF WHAT YOUR MARKET REPORT LOOKS
LIKE.
WE LOOKED AT RESIDENTIAL, OFFICE, RETAIL, AND INDUSTRIAL
USES.
AND WE SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON EACH OF THOSE AREAS.
SO THIS MARKET REPORT WILL BE UPDATED AS PART OF OUR
ORIGINAL RESPONSE TO YOUR RFP, WE DID A MARKET REPORT, AND
WE WILL BE UPDATING IT ONE YEAR AFTER.
SO THE UPDATE TO THIS WILL COME IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE A NEW SET OF DATA TO GO ALONG WITH
THAT.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TOOLS THAT YOU NOW HAVE THAT REALLY
HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THESE DIFFERENT MARKETS ARE
PERFORMING IN TAMPA, SPECIFICALLY IN THE DISCREET AREAS, THE
FIVE SPECIFIC AREAS AS WELL AS COMPARING TO THE CITY AS A
WHOLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY PERFORM IN RELATION TO THE CITY
AS A WHOLE.
SO WHEN WE GET INTO THE PROSPECTUS, SORT OF THE INTRO TO
THAT SECTION OF THE PRODUCT IS GOING TO BE SORT OF AN
OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE PROGRAM IS SO THAT
PEOPLE CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT WORKS,
ESPECIALLY FOLKS THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN EXPOSED TO IT BEFORE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD A LOT FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE CAC BOARD MEMBERS AND ALSO SOME OF THE FOLKS FROM
THE PUBLIC WAS THAT THEY ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR HOW TO GET
THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE PROGRAM CONNECTED TO THE INDIVIDUAL
BUSINESSES.
SO NOT JUST FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF BUILDING OR DEVELOPMENT
OR ANY TYPE OF VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, BUT ALSO YOU CAN
CONNECT PEOPLE THAT ALREADY OWN BUSINESSES IN THE CITY AND
ARE EITHER LOOKING TO EXPAND THEM, OR MAYBE LOOKING TO
RELOCATE TO A DIFFERENT AREA.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE MAKING THAT CONNECTION FOR
FOLKS, THAT IT WAS A TOPIC THAT CAME UP IN A LOT OF OUR
CONVERSATIONS, AND WE STILL ARE PAINTING THAT PICTURE WITHIN
THE PROSPECTUS.
WE CAN HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THEM
ESPECIALLY AS BUSINESS OWNERS, IF THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN
VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION.
SO ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT IS BY PUTTING A
SORT OF MATRIX, WHERE WE LOOK AT THE QUALIFIED OPPORTUNITY
FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, THAT HAVE THE FUND THAT YOU ARE
LOOKING FOR TO INVEST IN OPPORTUNITY ZONES, IS TO LOOK AT
THOSE AND UNDERSTAND HOW THEY MAY ALIGN, WHETHER THEY ARE A
REAL ESTATE FOCUS, A BUSINESS INVESTMENT FOCUS, AND WHICH
SUBDISTRICTS OF THOSE FIVE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT MOST
ALIGN WITH THE SPECIFIC NEEDS OF THOSE SPECIFIC FIVE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
THIS IS INCLUDED IN THE PROSPECTUS AND HOPEFULLY YOU KNOW IF
YOU ARE IN ONE OF THESE FIVE DISTRICTS, YOU CAN COME TO THIS
AND LOOK AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THAT FUND IS INTERESTING
AND EXACTLY WHAT I AM LOOKING TO ATTRACT AN INVESTOR TO, SO
THE AREA THAT I AM IN IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY ARE
INTERESTED IN INVESTING IN, SO AT LEAST IT GETS THEM A FIRST
POINT TO REACH OUT TO, TO START THAT PROCESS OF SEEKING
FUNDING INVESTMENT.
SORRY.
SO WE THEN INTRODUCE EACH OF THE SUBDISTRICTS.
SO I HAVE GIVEN YOU AN EXAMPLE HERE OF THE EAST TAMPA
SUBDISTRICT, BUT THERE IS A SIMILAR STRIKE TO EACH OF THOSE
FIVE DISTRICTS THAT GIVES YOU THE OVERVIEW ABOUT THAT
INDIVIDUAL AREA, COMMUNITY INVESTMENT THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING
IN THAT COMMUNITY, AND THEN ALSO THE MAJOR ANCHOR
DEVELOPMENT THAT'S THERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OPPORTUNITY FUNDS AND GENERAL
INVESTORS TEND TO LOOK AT IS, IS THERE ALREADY INVESTMENT
ACTIVITY HERE?
IS THE CITY ALREADY COMMITTED?
IS THERE A CRA THAT'S ALREADY COMMITTED IN MAKING
INVESTMENTS IN INTO THIS COMMUNITY?
BECAUSE MONEY SOMETIMES FOLLOWS MONEY.
AND THOSE INVESTMENTS MAKE THEM FEEL MORE CONFIDENT GOING
FORWARD.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING HERE, IS THERE'S
ALREADY A LOT OF INVESTMENT ACTIVITY HAPPENING WITHIN THESE
COMMUNITIES, ON THE PUBLIC SIDE, WHICH REALLY IS OPENING THE
DOOR TO THAT PRIVATE SECTOR INVESTMENT.
WE ALSO TALK ABOUT THE PRIORITIES PROJECTS THAT ARE LOCATED
IN EACH OF THESE FIVE DISTRICTS.
THESE WILL BE KIND OF THE GAME CHANGING PROJECTS, REALLY
CATALYTIC EFFORTS, THAT ARE HAPPENING WITHIN EACH OF THESE
FIVE DISTRICTS.
AND I AM SURE IN THE URBAN CORE SECTION HERE JUST AS AN
EXAMPLE, YOU CAN SEE HOW THINGS LIKE THAT, ENCORE TAMPA, AND
THE STREET CAR EXPANSION, AND MODERNIZATION ARE ALL SHOWN
HERE TO HIGHLIGHT THE KIND OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT
ARE REALLY GOING TO BE INFLUENTIAL TO THAT SPECIFIC
DISTRICT.
AND THERE'S A SIMILAR SORT OF LAYOUT OF PROJECTS FOR EACH OF
THOSE FIVE DISTRICTS HERE.
SO THIS IS WHAT THE INFORMATION THAT WE ARE INCLUDING FOR
EACH OF THE CENSUS TRACKS, SO AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE IS DEFINED
BY THE CENSUS TRACKS, AS SO FOR WEST TAMPA, YOU HAVE GOT TWO
CENSUS TRACKS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT AREA THAT ARE BOTH
OPPORTUNITY ZONES, SO WHAT YOU GET IS THIS SORT OF OVERVIEW
OF HERE IS EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN THIS SPECIFIC ZONE,
THIS SPECIFIC CENSUS TRACT.
YOU ALSO GET THE SOCIOECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC FACTS SO THAT
YOU CAN KIND OF START TO LOOK AT THIS FROM THE INVESTOR
PERSPECTIVE AND SAY THIS CENSUS TRACT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
THINGS THAT I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR AS AN INVESTOR, SO IT'S
THE INCOME LEVEL, THE EDUCATION ATTAINMENT, WHETHER IT'S
MORE RESIDENTIAL FOCUSED COMMUNITY OR MORE INDUSTRIAL OR
COMMERCIAL FOCUSED COMMUNITY OR AREA.
ALSO, THEY ARE GOING TO HELP MIRROR THOSE TRACKS TO HELP
IDENTIFY WHICH ONES THEY WANT TO BE ACTED IN -- ACTIVE IN.
FOR THAT, WE ALSO DO AN INVESTMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT
OPPORTUNITY INDEX MODEL.
THIS TAKES THE NUMBER OF FACTORS AND MODELS THOSE TO
IDENTIFIED AREAS, NOT REALLY AREAS, SPECIFIC PROPERTIES
REQUEST EACH OF THOSE SUBDISTRICT TO IDENTIFY WHICH ONES ARE
MOST RIPE FOR INVESTMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT.
SO WE LOOK AT BOTH ALREADY-BUILT PROPERTIES THAT ARE
UNDERUTILIZED OR MAYBE VACANT PROPERTIES THAT ARE
UNDERVALUED OR ALREADY COMING TO THE MARKET.
THOSE GET HIGHLIGHTED IN MAPS WHICH ARE BROKEN DOWN BY EACH
OF THOSE FIVE SUBDISTRICTS.
AS SORT OF A FIRST POINT FOR INVESTORS TO LOOK AT, IF THEY
ARE ALREADY INTERESTED IN A SPECIFIC SUBDISTRICT, FOR
EXAMPLE, IF THEY WERE ALREADY INTERESTED IN EAST TAMPA, THIS
KIND OF GETS THEM AN INTRODUCTION TO, HEY, HERE ARE SOME
PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY RIPE FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND
INVESTMENT, JUST AS SORT OF AN INTRO TO THE COMMUNITY FOR
THEM TO START THINKING ABOUT.
AND SO YOU SEE HERE WE HAVE GOT A SAMPLE OF DREW PARK.
SO THE NEXT STEP IS THE MARKETING PLAN.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ESSENTIALLY FINALIZING NOW.
SO THE MARKETING PLAN IS INTENDED TO BE ESSENTIALLY A ROAD
MAP FOR STAFF, SO THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT MARKETING PLAN
AND IT'S GOING TO HELP THEM MOVE THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE
PROGRAM FORWARD.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE WHAT ROB IS REFERRING TO WHENEVER HE'S
GOING FORWARD WITH THIS TO PROMOTE THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE
PROGRAM IN TAMPA, BUT THEN ALSO AS HE WORKS WITH THE MANY
COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO FURTHER THIS PROGRAM
FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.
SO THAT INCLUDES IMPLEMENTATION THAT'S TAILORED TOWARDS
HOUSING, COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL, INDUSTRIAL, AGRICULTURAL
USES AND OPERATING INVESTMENT.
SO THERE WILL ALSO BE SOMEWHAT OF AN INVESTOR PITCH
DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S TO
CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH, USING IT AS A ROAD MAP.
ANOTHER THING WE ASSISTED WITH WAS THE CREATION OF THE WEB
TREE AND WEB CONTENT SO THIS IS ALL STARTING TO HIT YOUR
WEBSITE NOW.
ROB AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN BUILDING THIS INTO YOUR EXISTING
WEB PLATFORM SO THAT IT CAN AT LEAST START TO SHARE THE
INFORMATION THERE TO GET THE WORD OUT AND START MESSAGING.
BUT ULTIMATELY WE ARE HOPING THAT THIS BECOMES A LITTLE BIT
MORE OF AN INTERACTIVE PLATFORM SO THAT PEOPLE CAN REALLY
NAVIGATE IT IN A WAY THAT IS VERY QUICK AND EASY FOR THEM TO
FIND.
RIGHT NOW IT'S REALLY COMING TOGETHER NICELY AND STARTING TO
TAKE SHAPE.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THAT CONTINUES TO PROGRESS
OVER THE COMING WEEKS.
SO THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE OTHER WEB CONTENT THAT WE HELPED
CREATE THAT'S NOW UP ON YOUR WEBSITE.
SOME PIECES OF IT ARE ALREADY THERE, FULLY FUNCTIONAL.
OTHERS ARE STILL BEING BULLET OUT.
SO OUR NEXT STEP IS TO FINALIZE THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE PRO
RESPECT DISCUSS.
WE ARE VERY CLOSE ON THAT.
AND THEN ALSO FORMALIZE THE MARKETING PLAN, WHICH WE ARE
ALSO VERY CLOSE TO THE COMPLETION OF THAT.
SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE MUCH OF YOU ALL'S TIME.
I KNOW YOU PROBABLY ALL HAVE A VERY LONG DAY BECAUSE YOU ALL
HAVE BEEN UP THERE SINCE NINE.
SO I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE OR
REVIEWING THINGS.
BUT WE REALLY WANT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE
WE ARE, THAT WE ARE GETTING REALLY CLOSE TO FINISHING AND
TAKE ANY FEEDBACK OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT
HAVE.
16:35:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.
16:35:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GOOD FRIEND OF MINE SAT ON THE CREATION OF
THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE WITH SENATOR SCOTT.
OPPORTUNITY ZONES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE UTILIZED FOR
UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES, DEVELOPED COMMUNITIES.
I LOOK AT THIS MAP, I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE
ARE GOING TO MOVE EAST TAMPA, MORE OR LESS COMMUNITIES IN
THESE OPPORTUNITY ZONES, HOW ARE WE GOING TO USE OPPORTUNITY
ZONES FOR BLACK BUSINESSES, TO PROMOTE THEM?
I SEE A SCHEMATIC BUT IT AIN'T TELLING ME HOW WE ARE GOING
TO GET THE MEAT AND POTATOES TO GET IT DONE.
AND MY THING IS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MARKET TO THE PEOPLE IN
THIS THESE COMMUNITIES TO KNOW, OR WHERE TO GO?
SEE, I CAN PUT THIS ON THE WEBSITE BUT AIN'T NOBODY GOING TO
THE CITY OF TAMPA WEBSITE OR EVEN KNOW WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY
ZONE IS. I HAVE TO BE A REALISTIC PERSON ON THAT.
ARE WE LOOKING AT BOOTS ON THE GROUND TO BE LOOK AT SOME OF
THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE, KNOCKING ON DOORS, SO THEY
CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE IS, WHAT CAN BE
OFFERED, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PROMOTE BUSINESSES TO COME HERE
TO LOOK AT THOSE AREAS FOR GROWTH?
NOW YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE, IN THE CENTRAL PART.
WE KNOW WE HAVE DEVELOPERS THERE WHO ARE GOING TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF THAT, GASWORX AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
SO THAT'S FINE FOR THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MONEY PEOPLE.
BUT I LOOK AT THE MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES, HOW ARE WE GOING
TO HELP THEM TO HELP THEIR COMMUNITY STRAFE?
THAT'S WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR.
16:36:55 >> THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS AND THE EXACT KIND OF QUESTIONS
WE GET ON A REGULAR BASIS. I GET CALLS 3 OR 4 TIMES A WEEK
ANSWERING THAT EXACT SAME QUESTION.
SO THE IDEA IS THAT WE ARE NOT HANDING OUT MONEY.
WE ARE NOT DOING THAT KIND OF WORK.
THIS IS A BIG EDUCATION AND AWARENESS.
WE HAVE BUSINESSES THAT COME AND SAY, WELL, OKAY, I AM NOT
BUYING REAL ESTATE, BUT CAN I STILL USE THIS PROGRAM FOR
OTHER THINGS?
BE FOR EXAMPLE, IF A COMPANY SAYS, HEY, I WOULD LIKE TO RENT
THE PLACE NEXT DOOR AND EXPAND MY BUSINESS, TO SAY THAT
PIZZA COMPANY, AND THEY SAID, I NEED TO BUY A NEW OVEN, I
NEED TO EXPAND MY BUSINESS, GET MORE TABLES, HIRE TWO MORE
EMPLOYEES, AND I CAN EXPAND MY BUSINESS.
IF I GO TO MY TRADITIONAL LOAN PLACE, THEY REQUIRE MORE
EQUITY.
YOU CAN GO TO OPPORTUNITY ZONE FUND AND SAY, HEY, I WOULD
LIKE TO BORROW MONEY AND HAVE YOU INVEST IN THIS BUSINESS, I
NEED OVENS AND THESE OTHER THINGS, COUNTS FOR RENTS, COUNTS
FOR THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO PUT INTO THAT
BUILDING, YOU CAN USE IT FOR OPERATIONAL.
IT'S NOT JUST FOR REAL ESTATE.
AND THE EARLY TAKERS DID A LOT OF REAL ESTATE.
THEY STARTED LOOKING INTO PERFORMANCE AND SAID, OKAY, I CAN
REPLACE SOME OF MY INVESTMENTS WITH OPPORTUNITY ZONE
INVESTMENTS.
THOSE WERE THE EARLY TAKERS.
AND THAT'S WHEN THE RULES WERE FIRST WRITTEN, WAS FIRST IN
LINE.
BUT WAS THE RULES GOT WRITTEN IN 2019, THOSE OTHER OPTIONS
BECAME MORE SMALL BUSINESS FOCUSED.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS TO GET
PARTNERS TO GET OUT THERE AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION LIKE
THE CDCs AND THE CHAMBERS AND GO, THESE ARE GREAT TOOLS,
THIS IS AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE, THIS PRINTED DOCUMENT IS
OBVIOUSLY GOING TO OUTDATE BECAUSE IT'S PRINTED BUT THE
WEBSITE WAS INTENDED TO BE THAT DYNAMIC CONTINUE TO GO ON
AND ANY CHANGES TO THE RULES, THE IDEAS THAT THE PROPERTIES
AT THE CRAs BOUGHT, THAT WE NEED TO ADVERTISE AND SHOW,
THIS IS AVAILABLE FOR REDEVELOPMENT, THIS IS A HIGHLIGHT
DOCUMENT, THIS IS ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE, OH,
BY THE WAY, DID YOU KNOW WE HAVE THESE OPPORTUNITY ZONES,
THIS IS A POSSIBILITY?
WE ARE SEEING PEOPLE THAT ARE STARTING TO USE THOSE FUND TO
BUY PROPERTIES IN DOWNTOWN AND BUY PROPERTIES IN OTHER
AREAS.
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HIT THE NEWSPAPER ALL THE TIME.
THE ONES THAT YOU DON'T SEE ARE THE PEOPLE LIKE WHAT WE HAVE
HERE, THREE OF THEM, AND HE'S INVESTING IN SOME AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
HE'S LOOKING FOR SMALLER LOTS AND TRYING TO DO FOUR AND TEN
LOTS AT A TIME AND DO THOSE KIND OF INVESTMENTS.
HE'S NOT NECESSARILY DOING THE, HEY, I NEED TO BUY A CITY
BLOCK AND PUT A $100 MILLION.
NOT LOOKING FOR A BIG CASH DONOR OR CASH INVESTOR INTO THESE
ZONES.
SO THEY ARE LOOKING FOR ALL LEVELS.
AND THE IDEA IS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION
AND BECOME THAT TOOL.
AND SO THAT'S HOW WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE BOOTS ON THE
GROUND AND GET OUR PARTNERS TO BE WORKING WITH US TO GET
THAT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER THAT?
16:40:02 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND DOMESTIC
OPPORTUNITY AND CRA DIRECTOR INTERIM.
ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS I THINK IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US
TO DO WITH THIS PROSPECTUS IS EDUCATE OUR CRA STAFF AS WELL.
OUR STAFF CRA STAFF IS IN THE COMMUNITY MEETING WITH PEOPLE,
HEARING FROM BUSINESSES, HEARING FROM A LOT OF THESE SMALLER
BUSINESSES WITH A FACADE GRANTS, AND I THINK EDUCATING THEM
ABOUT THE PROSPECTUS AND WHO TO BE THE CONTACT AND BE THAT
CONDUIT I THINK IT'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE THOSE
BOOTS ON THE GROUND, AND BE THAT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE
BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT MAY WANT TO EXPAND OR NEW BUSINESSES
THAT MAY WANT TO COME IN.
SO I PLAN TO USE THIS AS WELL TO EDUCATE THE CRA STAFF AND
TO HAVE THEM OUT, BEING BOOTS ON THE GROUND AS WELL, FOR OUR
LOCAL BUSINESSES.
16:40:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MS. TRAVIS, HOW DIFFICULT IS THE FUNDING?
SOMETIMES YOU GO TO CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, CRITERIA HURT US AT
TIMES.
I THINK THAT'S A KEY FACTOR, I WANT TO ADDRESS TO SEE HOW WE
CAN HELP PEOPLE VERSUS HURT PEOPLE.
16:41:07 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO
MAYBE PARTNER WITH CONSULTANTS THAT MAY BE ABLE TO HELP WITH
THOSE QUESTIONS.
WE ARE NOT THE PROFESSIONALS THAT CAN HELP WITH YOUR TAX
STATEMENTS AND YOUR TAX LIABILITY, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN
PARTNER WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, THE CDC, THE SPDC, THAT
HAVE CONSULTANTS AND OTHER PRIVATE CONSULTANTS THAT MAY BE
ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, AND WALK OUR BUSINESS OWNERS
THROUGH THE STEPS, SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT
JUST AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT, AND CONNECT
THEM TO THE PEOPLE THAT CAN ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS AND HELP
THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS.
16:41:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.
THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT PERMITTING.
THEY DON'T KNOW TO GET IN FRONT OF US AND WHAT TO SAY OR NOT
TO SAY BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW TO KNOW AND THEY LOSE OUT.
THAT'S A BIG PART OF THIS PROCESS MAKING SURE THERE'S
SOMEPLACE THEY CAN GO TO TALK ABOUT THE FINANCIAL RECORD, TO
TALK ABOUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GO TO PERMITTING,
PLANNING, OR YOU MAY NEED TO GET A LAWYER WHO IS A LAND USE
PERSON.
THEY DON'T KNOW THOSE THINGS AND THEY GET SHUT OUT BECAUSE
OF THAT.
16:42:11 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
IT IS MY INTENTION AS YOUR INTERIM CRA
DIRECTOR TO UTILIZE THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE NO PROJECT
MANAGEMENT ROLE, POSITION, SO THAT THEY CAN LEARN, BE THE
CONNECTING PARTY TO BUSINESS OWNERS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS, OR
RESIDENTS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS, AND CONNECTING THEM THROUGH
THE ENTIRE PROCESS, NOT JUST FROM CONCEPT BUT UNTIL THEY GET
A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY THROUGH ALL THE WAY.
SO THAT IS MY INTENTION.
AND WE'LL DO THAT, THE SAME IS TRUE WITH THE OPPORTUNITY
ZONE PROSPECTUS.
16:42:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I SEE YOU HAVE MR. BROWN HERE.
16:42:46 >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YES.
16:42:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO I KNOW MR. BROWN HAS BEEN OUT LOOKING
IN EAST TAMPA, LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES IN AREAS ON COLUMBUS
AND OTHER AREAS.
SO I AM HOPING THAT HE WILL BE ABLE TO GET SOME PEOPLE HERE
INVESTING IN EAST TAMPA TO MAKE SURE WE CAN HAVE TO FOLKS
WHO ARE LIVING THERE, WORKING THERE AS WELL.
16:43:04 >> THEY HAVE BEEN PART OF THE PROCESS AND INCLUSIONARY AND
GIVEN GREAT FEEDBACK AND HELPING US FIND OTHER PARTNERS THAT
WEEP MIGHT NOT HAVE KNOWN RIGHT OFF.
AGAIN IT WAS ALWAYS THE INTENTION TO INCLUDE CITY STAFF AND
IN GENERAL, OBVIOUSLY, CRA STAFF AS PART OF THAT GROUP.
OUR INTENTION AT THE BEGINNING WAS TO GIVE THIS TOOL TO
EVERYBODY SO WE CAN GET THOSE INVESTMENTS.
WE ARE SEEING A LOT MORE.
I AM ACTUALLY SURPRISED EACH DAY WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS I HAVE
INVESTED IN THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SOMEBODY ELSE
WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS.
AND THEY ARE OFFERING LOTS OF INTERESTING INFORMATION.
SO THE LAREDO GROUP, THEY HAVE ALREADY OFFERED TWO FUND THAT
THEY ARE USE AS MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY.
WE HAVE THE OLD VERIZON BUILDING DOWNTOWN -- I'M SORRY,
FRONTIER BUILDING DOWNTOWN.
THAT BECAME AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE PURCHASE.
AND SOME OF THE WALKS AROUND THE STORE, CERTAINLY HEAR A LOT
OF PEOPLE STARTING TO INVEST AND IT'S AMAZING.
THESE ARE GREAT STORIES TO SHARE AND TO TRY TO GET OTHER
PEOPLE TO INVEST.
SO IT'S EXCITING.
AGAIN THOSE ARE THE EASY ONES TO POINT TO, TRYING TO GET
THOSE OUT TO ALL THE OTHER LEVELS.
SO I AGREE WITH WHAT NICOLE SAID.
EVERYBODY SINGING FROM THE SAME BOOK.
16:44:22 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANKS EVERYBODY FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
I THINK ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE IS IMPORTANT.
THE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY -- I HAVE
ALREADY TALKED TO NICOLE ABOUT THIS -- THIS IS A TOOL AND IT
MAKES US EQUAL TO OTHER CITIES.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY DIFFERENTIATE US.
WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF GREAT THINGS THAT DIFFERENTIATE US
ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT WITHOUT DOING ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, IT WILL PUT
US AT A DISADVANTAGE BY NOT BEING ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE ABOUT
IT.
THE THING I WOULD JUST CAUTION EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY IN THE
MARKETING OF THIS, LET'S NOT GET DISTRACTED BY THE TOOL AND
RUN AND CHASE THE TOOL.
LET'S FOCUS ON REAL PLANNING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
WE SHOULDN'T BE TRYING TO CHASE A BIG REAL ESTATE PROJECT
JUST BECAUSE WE CAN USE THIS, OR WHATEVER KIND OF PROJECT.
INSTEAD WE SHOULD LOOK AT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS, WHAT THE
NEIGHBORHOOD WANT, AND THEN GO BACKWARD AND LOOK AT ALL THE
TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO ACHIEVE WHAT THE COMMUNITY
WANTS.
AND THAT'S WRITTEN THINK THE CITY IN THE PAST HAS HAD A LOCK
OF PLANNING.
THE SECOND THING WE HAVE HAD A LACK OF IS REAL ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT.
WE CHASED REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT BUT NOT ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT.
AND I KNOW THE TWO GENTLEMEN IN THE AUDIENCE UNDERSTAND THAT
AND SO DOES NICOLE AND ROB.
AND I THINK I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT NICOLE IS GOING TO LEAD
US INTO AN ERA OF REAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE HAVE REALLY GOT TO LOOK AT CHANGING THE ECONOMIC
NUMBERS OF OUR CITY.
AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT JUST BY OFFERING INCENTIVES
AND USING TOOLS.
WE ARE GOING TO DO IT BY DOING THE RIGHT KIND OF PLANNING
WITH THE REAL NUMBERS IN OUR ECONOMY AND DO REAL ECONOMIC
PLANNING AND REAL ECONOMIC PLANNING.
THANK YOU.
16:45:57 >>ROB ROSNER:
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, FEEDBACK?
16:45:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE HAVE COME TO THE END OF OUR AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS, OR DID WE COVER IT ALL?
ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO GO THIS EARLY?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER GUDES, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MEMBER
CITRO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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