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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 21, 2022
9:00 A.M.



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09:06:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THE BROADCAST STARTING?

09:06:16 [GAVEL SOUNDING]

09:06:24 GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA

09:06:25 CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.

09:06:31 AT THIS TIME, I DEFER TO COUNCILMEMBER ORLANDO GUDES.

09:06:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WITH HEAVY HEARTS, I LOST A FRIEND.

09:06:41 SOMEONE WHO CAME TO ME AT A TIME THAT I NEEDED

09:06:41 SOMEONE.

09:06:43 I DIDN'T ASK.

09:06:47 SHE CAME TO ME, AND SAID, I WILL BE YOUR NEXT AIDE.

09:06:48 I WILL MAKE YOU SMILE.

09:06:51 WE ARE GOING TO PRAY EVERY DAY, AND I WILL MAKE YOU

09:06:51 HAPPY.

09:06:55 I SAID, WELL, GO HOME AND ASK YOUR HUSBAND AND YOUR

09:06:56 FAMILY IF IT IS OKAY.

09:07:00 BECAUSE IT IS A BIG JOB TO UNDERTAKE IN DISTRICT 5.

09:07:02 SHE SAID, ALL RIGHT, SIR.

09:07:05 SHE CAME BACK THE NEXT DAY AND SAID MY HUSBAND SAID IT

09:07:08 IS OKAY, AND MY FAMILY SAID IT IS OKAY.

09:07:11 I SAID, WELL, OKAY.

09:07:13 WE WILL GET STARTED.

09:07:17 SHE SAID BEFORE WE GET STARTED, WE ARE GOING TO PRAY.

09:07:20 WE ARE GOING TO PRAY EVERY DAY IN THIS OFFICE.

09:07:23 AND WHEN I COME IN, SHE MAY HAVE ALREADY DONE A

09:07:24 BLESSING.

09:07:27 BUT WHEN I GET THERE, SHE DOES ANOTHER BLESSING.

09:07:29 BEFORE WE LEAVE, WE DO A BLESSING.

09:07:33 AND IN A TIME I NEEDED HER, THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS

09:07:33 SHE WAS THERE.

09:07:35 DON'T YOU WORRY ABOUT NOTHING.

09:07:36 GOD HAS US.

09:07:39 HE HAS YOUR PEOPLE.

09:07:41 THE PERSON WHO PRAY EVERY DAY.

09:07:43 SO I KNOW MISS DEBBY.

09:07:47 I KNOW WHEN SHE LEFT US ON MONDAY, THE GATES OF HEAVEN

09:07:51 WERE ALREADY OPEN FOR HER.

09:07:54 BECAUSE HER SPIRIT WAS TOUCHED AND BLESSED BY GOD SO

09:07:57 SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY OF THE GATES OPEN.

09:08:00 WALKED RIGHT IN AND SHE SMILED LIKE SHE ALWAYS DO,

09:08:01 GENTLEMAN.

09:08:03 SHE SMILED, LAUGHED, YOU KNOW.

09:08:06 CHRISTMASTIME, WE ARE GOING TO MISS HER.

09:08:10 WE ARE GOING TO MISS HER BECAUSE SHE LET EVERYBODY FEEL

09:08:11 HAPPY WITH JOY.

09:08:16 SHE COME IN WITH HER CHRISTMAS OUTFIT ON ALL WEEK LONG.

09:08:18 MAKES EVERYBODY HAPPY.

09:08:18 SHE MADE ME HAPPY.

09:08:23 SHE MADE ME -- IN MY DARKEST DAYS AND DARKEST MOMENTS

09:08:24 MONTHS AGO.

09:08:25 SHE CALLED ME.

09:08:26 SHE PRAYED.

09:08:29 SHE SAID YOU ARE GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT.

09:08:30 YOU ARE GOING TO GET THROUGH IT.

09:08:32 GOD KNOWS YOUR HEART.

09:08:38 I AM GOING TO MISS HER BECAUSE SHE DID -- HE SENT HER

09:08:40 TO ME AT A TIME I NEEDED SOMEBODY.

09:08:41 AND SHE WAS HERE.

09:08:44 AND I AM BLESSED TO HAVE KNOWN HER.

09:08:48 BLESSED TO HAVE -- JUST BE ABLE TO GET THAT OPPORTUNITY

09:08:50 BECAUSE SHE WAS HAPPY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

09:08:51 SHE WAS HAPPY.

09:08:52 SHE WANTED IT.

09:08:53 SHE WAS HAPPY.

09:08:56 WOULD DO ANYTHING.

09:08:59 MR. CHAIRMAN, HER SERVICES WILL BE THIS SATURDAY AT 3

09:09:08 P.M. AT THE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, 4011 EAST 21ST

09:09:09 STREET IN TAMPA.

09:09:13 THAT IS IN HARLAN PINES.

09:09:15 FAMILY WILL TAKE IN GUESTS AND FRIENDS.

09:09:18 ALL I WANT TO SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN MAKE A MOTION

09:09:21 FOR COMMENDATION FOR MISS DEBBY.

09:09:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND

09:09:26 SECONDED.

09:09:27 ALL IN FAVOR.

09:09:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT AND SHE WOULD

09:09:32 LOVE THAT AND HER FAMILY WOULD LOVE THAT.

09:09:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:09:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AN INDESCRIBABLE EMPTINESS IN CITY

09:09:39 HALL.

09:09:42 COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU SAID IT BEST.

09:09:47 DEBBIE WAS AN ANGEL HERE AND AN ANGEL ABOVE LOOKING DOWN

09:09:49 ON EACH OF US.

09:09:50 A WOMAN OF DEEP FAITH.

09:09:51 STRONG.

09:09:53 FEARED NOTHING NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT THE SITUATION

09:09:59 AND SHE PASSED AWAY MONDAY SUDDENLY.

09:10:02 AND TRULY IRREPLACEABLE INDIVIDUAL.

09:10:04 SO THANK YOU, SIR.

09:10:06 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.

09:10:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

09:10:11 >>LUIS VIERA: I ECHO SENTIMENTS FOR DEBBIE, AND

09:10:15 COUNCILMAN GUDES, SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS AND THE LOSS FOR

09:10:16 DEBBIE'S FAMILY.

09:10:18 SHE WAS A VERY DECENT PERSON.

09:10:21 A GREAT COMPASSION.

09:10:24 I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, JUST MANY EXPERIENCES WITH HER

09:10:27 THAT WE HAD TALKING ON MANY ISSUES.

09:10:31 AND IT'S -- IT'S FUNNY -- THIS IS PERSONAL, BUT

09:10:32 WHATEVER.

09:10:37 MY SON AND I WE -- WE KID AND SOMETIMES FILM MOVIES.

09:10:39 IT IS FUN, AND I HAD STUFF THAT WE DO.

09:10:42 AND DEBBIE WAS IN ONE OF OUR MOVIES A YEAR AND A HALF

09:10:44 AGO, AND I SAW IT WITH MY SON.

09:10:46 AND SHE WAS JUST -- SHE WAS A NICE LADY.

09:10:48 SHE WAS A VERY GOOD LADY.

09:10:50 JUST A HARD-WORKING WOMAN.

09:10:53 AND SHE WON'T BE FORGOTTEN.

09:10:57 SO -- I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MAYBE IF -- MAYBE AN

09:11:00 ORGANIZATION, ATU OR SOMEONE LIKE THAT COULD START UP A

09:11:04 FUND, 501-C-3 SO MAYBE FROM OUR CITY COUNCIL OFFICES

09:11:07 GIVE TO IT FOR DEBBIE'S FAMILY.

09:11:09 JUST AN IDEA.

09:11:10 BUT THANK YOU, SIR.

09:11:13 AGAIN, JUST GOD BLESS HER.

09:11:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:11:15 ANYBODY ELSE?

09:11:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.

09:11:22 DEBBIE WAS A KIND, SWEET PERSON BEFORE SHE WAS

09:11:25 COUNCILMAN GUDES' LEGISLATIVE AIDE.

09:11:27 SHE WAS OUR FRONT DESK PERSON.

09:11:29 THE PEOPLE THAT CAME TO SEE US, THAT WAS THE FIRST

09:11:30 POINT OF CONTACT.

09:11:34 NOT EVERYBODY COMES INTO CITY COUNCIL OFFICE WITH A

09:11:35 SMILING FACE.

09:11:38 BUT MISS MERCER MADE SURE THEY DID HAVE A SMILING FACE.

09:11:43 SHE IS GOING TO BE GREATLY MISSED.

09:11:45 AND HER VOICE WILL ECHO.

09:11:49 WE HAVE LOCKS ON OUR DOORS THAT WE HAVE TO PUNCH IN TO

09:11:50 PASS.

09:11:52 AND SHE WOULD ALWAYS ANTICIPATE WHEN ONE OF US WAS

09:11:57 COMING THROUGH THE DOOR AND YELL OUT, IT'S OPEN!

09:12:00 YOU I WILL MISS THAT.

09:12:01 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

09:12:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:12:03 YES, SIR.

09:12:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:12:09 YOU KNOW OUR OFFICE IS RIGHT NEXT TO MR. GUDES' OFFICE

09:12:10 AND DEBBIE.

09:12:12 AND I WOULD SEE HER JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY I WAS IN THE

09:12:16 BUILDING, AND SHE WAS IN THE BUILDING ALL THE TIME.

09:12:20 AND THERE WASN'T A BETTER PERSON, A HUMAN BEING, THEN

09:12:24 DEBBIE MERCER.

09:12:30 SHE HAD ILLNESSES IN THE FAMILY AND WE SPOKE OF FAMILY

09:12:32 ILLNESSES AND HISTORY IN LIFE.

09:12:36 TO ME SHE WAS ONE OF THE MOST ROUNDED PERSONS I EVER

09:12:37 MET.

09:12:40 SHE HAS A SMILE ON HER FACE NO MATTER HOW CRITICAL IT

09:12:40 WAS.

09:12:45 NO MATTER HOW SERIOUS IT WAS WITH ILLNESS IN HER FAMILY

09:12:46 AND OTHER PEOPLE'S FAMILIES.

09:12:48 SHE DID IT WITH A SMILE.

09:12:51 SHE TOOK LIFE AS IT CAME AND MADE CHANGES TO HELP THE

09:12:53 PEOPLE AROUND HER.

09:12:57 SHE WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY HUMAN BEING.

09:13:00 WE WILL MISS HER GREATLY.

09:13:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

09:13:03 YES.

09:13:06 >>LYNN HURTAK: I, OF COURSE, DID NOT KNOW HER AS LONG AS

09:13:10 OR AS WELL AS OTHERS, BUT SHE WAS TRULY THE VERY FIRST

09:13:14 PEOPLE TO WALK IN MY OFFICE AND SAY HELLO AND OFFER ME

09:13:17 ANY TYPE OF HELP SHE POSSIBLY COULD.

09:13:20 AND JUST TALKING.

09:13:22 WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID THE EXPERIENCE I HAD.

09:13:23 ALWAYS A SMILE.

09:13:25 ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP.

09:13:27 ALWAYS HAD A POSITIVE THOUGHT AND THAT WILL BE TRULY

09:13:28 MISSED.

09:13:31 AND SHE WILL BE TRULY MISSED.

09:13:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:13:37 ALL RIGHT.

09:13:43 IT'S MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO WELCOME COLONEL TIM

09:13:47 KEYPORTS WHO WILL GIVE THE INVOCATION, COMMUNITY

09:13:48 LEADER.

09:13:50 INVOLVED IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.

09:13:53 DEEPLY WITH THE COMMUNITY GIVING HIS TIME AND SERVICE

09:13:54 TO US.

09:13:57 SO MANY INVOLVED AND SO MANY ASPECTS OF THE

09:13:59 NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVEN IN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

09:14:01 TIM KEYPORTS IS THERE.

09:14:05 IF WE CAN PLEASE STAND, AND COLONEL KEYPORTS WILL LEAD

09:14:07 US IN THE INVOCATION.

09:14:10 >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PASS A FEW WORDS BEFORE WE BOW

09:14:11 OUR HEADS.

09:14:14 I AM HONORED TO BE CALLED BY CITY COUNCIL AGAIN FOR THE

09:14:15 INVOCATION.

09:14:18 AS WE BEGIN ANOTHER WORKDAY, IMPORTANT TO TAKE A FEW

09:14:21 MINUTES TO REFLECT ON THIS PAST WEEK, ONE OF ITS MOST

09:14:22 IMPORTANT FOR CHRISTIANS.

09:14:25 WHILE ALSO RESPECTING ALL FAITHS AND ALL OTHER

09:14:26 INDIVIDUALS.

09:14:31 WE REFLECT WITH GREAT HUMILITY ON THURSDAY, GOOD FRIDAY

09:14:35 AND REJOICE THIS PAST EASTER SUNDAY.

09:14:38 ON SUNDAY, THE CHILDREN OF OUR CONGREGATION CAME TO THE

09:14:42 FRONT OF TO SING A SONG.

09:14:46 OUR PASTOR ASKED THEM OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF EASTER.

09:14:50 AND A BRAVE FOUR-YEAR-OLD LITTLE GIRL REPLIED QUITE

09:14:52 LOUDLY, IT'S JESUS'S BIRTHDAY.

09:14:53 TAKE A MINUTE.

09:14:57 OUR PASTOR USED THIS AFTER PRAISING HER FOR BEING BRAVE

09:15:01 TO SHARE THAT WE ARE, INDEED, IN CONFUSING TIMES.

09:15:05 THE PANDEMIC, THE WAR IN UKRAINE, AND EVEN OUR RECENT

09:15:11 LOSS OF DEBBIE MERCER, A WELL-LOVED CLEARLY AN LONG-TIME

09:15:13 PUBLIC SERVANT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.

09:15:16 WE WILL HONOR YOUR NAME THROUGH OUR GOOD WORKS THIS

09:15:17 WEEK.

09:15:18 PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS.

09:15:23 IN ROMANS 13:1, SAID EVERY PERSON SHOULD BE IN

09:15:25 SUBJECTION TO THE GOVERNING AUTHORITIES.

09:15:29 FOR THERE IS NO AUTHORITY EXCEPT FROM GOD AND THOSE

09:15:31 WHICH EXIST ARE ESTABLISHED BY GOD.

09:15:35 PRAISE BE TO GOD.

09:15:38 LET THESE WORDS GUIDE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND

09:15:42 RESONATE IN YOUR HEARTS AS WE GO FORTH AND DO GOOD

09:15:44 WORKS TODAY, TOMORROW, AND AS WE PREPARE OURSELVES

09:15:48 AHEAD OF THIS COMING SUNDAY, THE TRUE START OF OUR

09:15:49 WEEK.

09:15:51 IN JESUS'S NAME WE PRAY.

09:15:53 AMEN.

09:15:56 >> AMEN.

09:16:10 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

09:16:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

09:16:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

09:16:16 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.

09:16:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

09:16:19 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

09:16:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

09:16:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

09:16:23 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

09:16:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:16:30 MR. SHELBY.

09:16:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:16:35 GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC,

09:16:37 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

09:16:42 WE ARE HERE FOR TODAY'S REGULAR AGENDA ON APRIL 21,

09:16:44 2022.

09:16:47 THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH,

09:16:50 LISTEN AND VIEW THIS MEETING ON CABLE TV AT SPECTRUM

09:16:54 CHANNEL 640, FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 AND ON THE INTERNET AT

09:16:57 TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.

09:17:00 NOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND HERE IN PERSON IN

09:17:04 CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS OR VIRTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN THIS

09:17:08 MEETING BY WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS COMMUNICATION MEDIA

09:17:08 TECHNOLOGY.

09:17:12 TO SPEAK REMOTELY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THE USE

09:17:16 OF CMT, PREREGISTRATION IS REQUIRED JUST AS TO

09:17:19 PARTICIPATE REMOTELY IN PUBLIC HEARINGS DURING TODAY'S

09:17:21 MEETING USING CMT.

09:17:23 PREREGISTRATION IS ALSO REQUIRED.

09:17:26 AND THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THAT ARE AVAILABLE BOTH IN THE

09:17:30 NOTICE OF THE MEETING AND ON THE AGENDA AND ON CITY

09:17:37 COUNCIL'S WEB SITE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.

09:17:40 PLEASE NOTE IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN QUASI-JUDICIAL

09:17:44 MATTERS, CELL PHONES AND SMARTPHONES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE

09:17:47 BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO SHARE YOUR PHONE

09:17:47 WHEN CONNECTED.

09:17:49 THOSE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY AT QUASI

09:17:54 JUDICIAL HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO CMT WITH A CAMERA AND

09:17:59 MICROPHONE ABLE TO BE SEEN BY VIDEO AND HEARD BY AUDIO

09:18:01 BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND OTHER PARTICIPANTS.

09:18:03 WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE

09:18:07 COUNCIL TO ADOPT -- WAIVE THE RULES AND ADOPT THE CMT

09:18:12 TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS AND THE --

09:18:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO WAIVE.

09:18:16 >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.

09:18:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

09:18:19 OPPOSED?

09:18:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

09:18:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:18:26 MR. SHELBY, APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM TO THE

09:18:26 AGENDA.

09:18:30 IF YOU SEE THE ADDENDUM, QUITE A FEW SUBSTITUTE

09:18:30 RESOLUTIONS.

09:18:34 WHEN WE GET TO THOSE ITEMS, I WILL BRING THEM UP.

09:18:34 WHAT ELSE?

09:18:38 ITEM NUMBER, COUNCILMAN VIERA IS TO BE REMOVED, RIGHT?

09:18:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, PLEASE.

09:18:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 3.

09:18:47 SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.

09:18:47 ALL IN FAVOR.

09:18:48 OPPOSED.

09:18:52 ITEMS 20 AND 21 WILL BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION AND

09:18:53 PLACED UNDER STAFF REPORT.

09:18:55 ITEMS 20 AND 21.

09:18:57 IF PROPER STAFF IS AVAILABLE.

09:19:01 THIS IS REGARDING ROAM YARD AND THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS

09:19:04 AND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.

09:19:06 WE WILL PUT THAT UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

09:19:08 YOU CAN STILL SPEAK ABOUT IT UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:19:09 NO CHANGE THERE.

09:19:10 DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT?

09:19:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO MOVED.

09:19:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

09:19:18 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

09:19:21 WE WON'T HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION UPDATE FROM CHIEF

09:19:21 BENNETT.

09:19:23 REGARDING STAFF REPORTS.

09:19:24 I WILL GO THROUGH THEM REAL QUICK.

09:19:27 THE AGENDA IS SHORT TODAY, BUT THERE ARE QUITE A FEW

09:19:30 LENGTHY ITEMS.

09:19:33 SO -- AND THIS WAS -- I WILL COME BACK TO THIS.

09:19:37 THIS IS COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:19:41 IF WE WOULD NEED ANYBODY FOR TAMPA UNION STATION.

09:19:43 WE WILL GET BACK TO THAT.

09:19:55 ITEM NUMBER 45, THERE IS A STAFF REPORT ALSO ABOUT

09:19:56 CARLSON.

09:19:58 46, MOTION BY MR. VIERA.

09:20:00 WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF HERE?

09:20:01 >>LUIS VIERA: SURE.

09:20:06 WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE A LUNCH BREAK IN BETWEEN BUT YES.

09:20:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 47.

09:20:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

09:20:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR 46.

09:20:16 47, WE WILL COME BACK TO THAT.

09:20:17 MY MOTION.

09:20:22 THE EXISTING CHLORINE PLANT ITEM.

09:20:25 A REQUEST THAT IT BE CONTINUED TO JUNE 16 OR JUNE 23

09:20:28 WORKSHOP.

09:20:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.

09:20:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

09:20:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES TO

09:20:34 CONTINUE ITEM 48 TO JUNE 16, 2022.

09:20:36 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

09:20:38 ALL IN FAVOR.

09:20:40 ANY OPPOSED?

09:20:43 COUNCILMAN VIERA, ITEM 49?

09:20:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.

09:20:46 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK WE WILL NEED IT.

09:20:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KEEP STAFF FOR 49.

09:20:50 ITEM NUMBER 50.

09:20:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

09:20:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

09:20:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KEEP STAFF HERE FOR THAT.

09:20:55 ITEM 51.

09:20:57 THIS IS COUNCILMAN CARLSON, REGARDING A DRAFT

09:21:01 RESOLUTION FOR HEALTHY BONES TAMPA BAY COALITION.

09:21:03 YOU WANT STAFF HERE?

09:21:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN -- I AM GLAD COUNCILMAN

09:21:06 CARLSON IS HERE.

09:21:12 THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION WITH REGARD TO THAT

09:21:13 -- THAT RESOLUTION.

09:21:16 ACTUALLY IN TALKING WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND HIS

09:21:22 LEGISLATIVE AIDE, THE MOTION REALLY SHOULD BE FOR THE

09:21:24 OSTEOPOROSIS AWARENESS MONTH IN THE MONTH OF MAY.

09:21:27 AND I COMPARED THAT CONSISTENTLY SO I CAN DISTRIBUTE

09:21:30 THAT TO COUNCIL.

09:21:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AFTER LUNCH TODAY.

09:21:33 WE WILL LEAVE 51.

09:21:34 MR. CARLSON.

09:21:34 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

09:21:37 WE DON'T NEED STAFF.

09:21:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 52 AND 53 ARE MY MOTIONS.

09:21:45 ONE IS A 15-MINUTE PRESENTATION.

09:21:50 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ITEM 54, THE UNION STATION COFFEE

09:21:52 SHOP AND INCUBATOR.

09:21:55 WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF THERE.

09:21:57 >>BILL CARLSON: IF NICOLE IS AVAILABLE.

09:22:00 AFTER TUESDAY NIGHT, SHE AND I SPOKE AND HAVE IDEAS TO

09:22:01 MOVE FORWARD.

09:22:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 45.

09:22:05 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAME THING.

09:22:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: STAFF ON BOTH OF THEN.

09:22:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STAFF FOR 44 AND 45.

09:22:14 ITEM 47 REGARDING THE VETERAN MEMORIAL AT TAMPA UNION

09:22:15 STATION.

09:22:16 WOULD YOU LIKE SOMEBODY THERE?

09:22:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

09:22:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES STAFF REPORTS.

09:22:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, 52 AND 53, YOU

09:22:25 BOTH WISH TO HAVE STAFF PRESENT.

09:22:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, DO HAVE STAFF.

09:22:30 15-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THE 53.

09:22:34 A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADEN DUMB.

09:22:39 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND BY -- COUNCILMEMBERS

09:22:40 -- YES, SIR.

09:22:41 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY.

09:22:44 CAN I SAY SOMETHING ABOUT DEBBY REAL FAST.

09:22:46 I AM SORRY I MISSED THAT.

09:22:50 DEBBY IS -- WAS -- HARD TO SAY PAST TENSE.

09:22:52 SHE IS, WAS ONE OF THE BEST PEOPLE I EVER MET.

09:22:55 ONE OF THE KINDEST PEOPLE.

09:22:59 EVEN BEFORE I STARTED ON CITY COUNCIL, YOLY TOLD ME TO

09:23:00 GET TO KNOW HER.

09:23:02 AND I THINK OTHERS MENTIONED THIS, SHE WAS SO

09:23:04 WELCOMING.

09:23:05 WALKED THROUGH EVERYTHING.

09:23:08 SHE HAD GREAT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE ON EVERYTHING.

09:23:12 AND CITY COUNCIL WERE TO GET BUSINESS CARDS.

09:23:15 WHERE MONEY WAS IN YOUR ACCOUNT, EVERYTHING AS

09:23:17 COUNCILMAN CITRO MENTIONED.

09:23:19 SHE WOULD ANTICIPATE WHEN YOU WERE COMING THROUGH THE

09:23:19 DOOR.

09:23:24 BUT SHE WAS ONE OF THE KINDEST, HAPPIEST PEOPLE I EVER

09:23:24 MET.

09:23:27 DURING THE WORSE TIMES SHE WOULD FACE PERSONALLY, SHE

09:23:28 WOULD SMILE.

09:23:33 AND ON COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED THIS, NO MATTER HOW BAD

09:23:37 HER PERSONAL SITUATION WAS, SHE WOULD UPLIFT EVERYBODY

09:23:38 ELSE.

09:23:41 AND SHERIFFS JUST ONE OF THOSE INSPIRING LIGHTS THAT

09:23:44 YOU -- THAT YOU NEED MORE OF IN THE WORLD AND NOT LESS.

09:23:49 AND I HONE THAT WE ALL TRY TO LIVE TO HER EXPECTATIONS

09:23:51 OF US TO BE POSITIVE, HAPPY AND GIVING.

09:23:52 THANK YOU.

09:23:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:23:56 OKAY.

09:23:59 COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAVE THE FIRST ITEM.

09:24:00 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

09:24:03 WE HAVE HERE THE USF STUDENT GOVERNMENT FOLKS WHO ARE

09:24:04 HERE.

09:24:11 IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP.

09:24:14 MR. CHAIR, WOULD IT BE OKAY FOR EACH PERSON TO BRIEFLY

09:24:17 INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND THEIR MAJOR.

09:24:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

09:24:20 >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD, SIR.

09:24:21 IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

09:24:22 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:24:27 I AM ANDRE MONTERO, THE DIRECTOR OF STUDENT GOVERNMENT

09:24:29 AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.

09:24:30 FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY.

09:24:34 WE WILL BE SPENDING A FEW HOURS OF OUR DAY HERE IN YOUR

09:24:38 OFFICES FOR SEVERAL REASONS, BUT I WILL LET SOME OF MY

09:24:41 PEERS INTRODUCE THEMSELVES BEFORE I CONTINUE.

09:24:44 >> MONICA SMITH, FEDERAL CHIEF OF STAFF.

09:24:47 DOUBLE MAJORING IN POLITICAL SCIENCE AND HISTORY WITH A

09:24:49 MINOR IN ENGLISH.

09:24:50 >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T KNOW WHY -- I GUESS WHAT YOU ARE

09:24:54 LOOKING TO DO WHEN YOU GET OUT OF COLLEGE IF YOU KNOW

09:24:54 -- IF YOU KNOW.

09:24:57 >> AS OF RIGHT NOW I AM IN THE PROCESS OF APPLYING FOR

09:25:02 A FULBRIGHT SCHOLARSHIP FOR LITHUANIA.

09:25:07 HOPEFULLY DO THAT, COME BACK, GET MY PH.D. AND POLICY

09:25:11 ANALYST IN EASTERN FOREIGN POLICY.

09:25:13 >>LUIS VIERA: WOW.

09:25:16 VERY NARROWLY FAVORED.

09:25:20 >> I AM THE ST. PETERSBURG DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF AS

09:25:20 WELL.

09:25:25 I AM A POLITICAL SCIENCE MAJOR AND WHEN I GRADUATE, AND MY

09:25:28 WISH IS TO DO IMMIGRATION LAW.

09:25:30 >>LUIS VIERA: GOOD, THANK YOU, MA'AM.

09:25:31 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:25:33 KATHERINE MATHENY.

09:25:36 I AM THE TAMPA FEDERAL RANKING JUSTICE OF OUR SUPREME

09:25:37 COURT.

09:25:41 I AM A POLITICAL SCIENCE ECONOMICS MAJOR WITH A MINOR

09:25:45 IN LEGAL STUDIES AND PHILOSOPHY.

09:25:48 FOR POST GRAD HOPING TO ATTEND LAW SCHOOL AND BECOME A

09:25:52 CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY.

09:25:53 >> HELLO, EVERYONE.

09:25:55 VICTORIA WILLIAMS.

09:25:57 I AM THE FEDERAL CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR STUDENT

09:25:59 GOVERNMENT.

09:26:03 AND MY MAJOR IS POLITICAL SCIENCE AND HISTORY AND I

09:26:06 HOPE IT GO TO LAW SCHOOL AND PURSUE CORPORATE LAW.

09:26:08 >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT.

09:26:09 >> HI, GOOD MORNING.

09:26:14 ALICIA WONCO, AND I AM A HEALTH SCIENCES MAJOR WITH A

09:26:16 MINOR IN POLITICAL SCIENCE.

09:26:19 I AM PLANNING TO PURSUE A MASTERS IN PUBLIC HEALTH AND

09:26:23 BECOME A PEDIATRICIAN.

09:26:26 >> SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANTED TO COME HERE

09:26:29 TODAY WAS TO PRESENT ALL OF YOU AND EVERYONE THAT IS

09:26:32 PRESENT WITH A VERY SPECIAL PIECE OF STUDENT GOVERNMENT

09:26:36 LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED THIS SEMESTER THAT I WORKED

09:26:39 ON VERY HARD PERSONALLY AND SOME OF MY PEERS WHO ARE

09:26:43 JOINING US, THE ONE USF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BILL.

09:26:46 ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS A SIGN OF THE STUDENTS BODY

09:26:49 PLEDGING TO HAVE A BIGGER, POSITIVE IMPACT IN THE

09:26:53 SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING OUR UNIVERSITY,

09:26:57 THAT BEING TAMPA, ST. PETERSBURG AND SARASOTA-MANATEE.

09:27:01 SO THIS BILL ESSENTIALLY BINDS STUDENT GOVERNMENT FOR

09:27:04 PARTICIPATING IN THREE OR MORE YEARLY COMMUNITY

09:27:05 ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES.

09:27:08 WHAT I MEAN BY "COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT."

09:27:12 IT MEANS LOCAL GOVERNMENT ELECTIONS, CHARITY EVENTS OR

09:27:15 LOCAL FUND RAISINGS THAT ARE CLASSIC AND HISTORIC TO

09:27:17 OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

09:27:21 YOU KNOW, THE MAIN REASON BEHIND THIS IS, AS I COME

09:27:25 INTO STUDENT GOVERNMENT, I REALIZE I WILL PLACE A LOT

09:27:27 OF EMPHASIS IN MAKING AN IMPACT ON THE STATE LEVEL

09:27:30 WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US AS WELL, BUT I REALIZED

09:27:34 THAT WE ARE NOT -- WE WEREN'T DOING AS BIG OF AN EFFORT

09:27:36 TO MAKE A BIGGER IMPACT ON THE LOCAL LEVEL.

09:27:40 SO I DECIDED TO GET TOGETHER WITH SOME OF OUR SENATORS

09:27:43 IN OUR STUDENT GOVERNMENT SENATE TO WORK ON THIS PIECE

09:27:44 OF LEGISLATION.

09:27:46 I HAVE IT AND WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS TO EVERYBODY

09:27:46 HERE.

09:27:49 I DON'T KNOW WHO.

09:27:51 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF YOU WANT TO GET IT.

09:27:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

09:27:53 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL DO IT.

09:28:26 YEAH, HOW ABOUT -- YOU WANT TO BRING HIM UP THERE.

09:28:30 >> FILL IN SOME GAPS HERE.

09:28:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE HE IS.

09:29:01 >> ONE, TWO, THREE.

09:29:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:29:09 HOW MANY OF US UP HERE ARE BULLS?

09:29:17 VIERA, CITRO -- WE HAVE GOT THREE.

09:29:20 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:29:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ON THE DAIS

09:29:24 RECOGNIZED MISS SMITH.

09:29:27 SHE IS MY OFFICE'S INTERN.

09:29:30 AND SHE HAS DONE SOME EXCELLENT WORK FOR OUR OFFICE.

09:29:33 AND WE ARE GOING TO SEE BRIGHT THINGS COMING FROM HER.

09:29:35 THOUGHTS, MISS SMITH.

09:29:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

09:29:38 >>BILL CARLSON: TO ALL OF YOU STUDENTS, THANK YOU FOR

09:29:41 YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY.

09:29:44 IT USE TODAY BE, LIKE, 30 YEARS AGO THE PEOPLE THAT RAN

09:29:46 TAMPA, A LOT OF THEM WAS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF

09:29:46 FLORIDA.

09:29:50 AND WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, USF AND UT HAVE

09:29:52 REALLY RISEN UP.

09:29:59 AND THE NEW USF PRESIDENT WAS CHOSEN IN PART BY A

09:30:03 FORMER USF STUDENT BODY PRESENT AND YOU SEE USF

09:30:05 LEADERSHIP THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

09:30:08 TO YOU AND ALL YOUR COLLEAGUES WHO AREN'T HERE, IF WE

09:30:11 CAN DO ANYTHING TO HELP YOU IN YOUR CAREERS AND MAKE

09:30:14 SURE YOU COME BACK AND GET CONNECTED IN LEADERSHIP IN

09:30:14 OUR COMMUNITY.

09:30:17 YOU DON'T NEED 20 OR 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE TO GET

09:30:17 INVOLVED.

09:30:19 YOU CAN GET INVOLVED NOW.

09:30:21 PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW YOU CAN HELP.

09:30:22 THANK YOU.

09:30:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?

09:30:28 ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:30:34 I WAS JUST INFORMED THAT ITEM 42 NEEDS TO BE WITHDRAWN.

09:30:36 LET ME PULL IT UP.

09:30:41 ITEM 42 WAS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1:30.

09:30:46 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW 42.

09:30:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION.

09:30:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

09:30:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

09:30:53 OPPOSED?

09:30:54 COUNCILMAN VIERA, ITEM NUMBER 2.

09:30:55 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

09:31:00 FOR THE USF STUDENTS AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA, IF I

09:31:02 MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO GRAB THEM AND TAKE THEM ON A TOUR

09:31:04 OF THE MAGNIFICENT OFFICES.

09:31:07 IF Y'ALL WANT TO COME UP HERE, CONNIE, EVERYBODY.

09:31:09 SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:31:13 WE ARE GOING TO BE VOTING ON PUTTING FORWARD WHAT IS A

09:31:16 SERIES OF STEPS TO FURTHER GET THE CITY OF TAMPA BETTER

09:31:19 INVOLVED IN ISSUES INVOLVING RETURNING CITIZENS.

09:31:24 AND WANT TO DO A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION, NOT TO EXCEED

09:31:27 EIGHT, NINE OR TEN MINUTES WITH GREAT COMMUNITY

09:31:28 STAKEHOLDERS.

09:31:31 THE INTENT OF THIS, SIR, AND ALL OF CITY COUNCIL, IS TO

09:31:34 HAVE THE CITY OF TAMPA BETTER PROMOTE THROUGH THE

09:31:38 CONTRACTING PROCESS, OUR OWN INTERNAL PROCESSES AND

09:31:39 ETC.

09:31:42 THE PLIGHT OF EMPLOYMENTS OF RETURNING TENSE IS IT,

09:31:45 PEOPLE LEAVING INCARCERATION, LEAVING PRISON AND ALL

09:31:47 THEY WANT TO DO IS WORK HARD AND PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE

09:31:48 FOR THEIR FAMILIES.

09:31:50 WE HAVE SOME REALLY GREAT PEOPLE HERE.

09:31:52 AND WE ARE GOING TO START WITH OUR GOOD FRIENDS FROM

09:31:55 THE FLORIDA RIGHTS RESTORATION COALITION.

09:31:58 WE WORK WITH A NUMBER OF REALLY PROMINENT ORGANIZATIONS

09:32:00 IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND IN OUR CITY AND COMMUNITY

09:32:03 ON PUTTING FORTH A NUMBER OF PROPOSALS TO MOVE THIS

09:32:04 ISSUE FORWARD.

09:32:08 IS NEIL VOLTS AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY?

09:32:09 BRANDON?

09:32:10 OKAY, GREAT.

09:32:11 WE WILL BEGIN.

09:32:15 MISS BURTON, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN, YOU MAY.

09:32:15 >> THANK YOU.

09:32:19 GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON, FLORIDA RIGHTS RESTORATION

09:32:21 COALITION.

09:32:23 THIS IS THE RIGHT ORDINANCE AT THE RIGHT TIME.

09:32:28 WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO RESTORE PEOPLE'S

09:32:33 LIVES, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WAYS IN WHICH SECOND CHANCES

09:32:34 BECOME VITAL.

09:32:38 THAT WHEN PEOPLE HAVE PAID -- TRULY PAID THEIR DEBT TO

09:32:42 SOCIETY IN WHICH THE COURTS HAVE IDENTIFIED THINGS THAT

09:32:46 -- EXCUSE ME -- THAT INDIVIDUALS MUST DO, THEN I THINK

09:32:49 IT IS MORE THAN APPROPRIATE FOR CITY GOVERNMENT TO

09:32:53 EXTEND ITS HANDS TO SAY, THEN, HOW DO PEOPLE THEN COME

09:32:56 BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITIES AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A

09:32:58 SENSE OF DIGNITY.

09:33:01 NOT ONLY HAVE WE WORKED VERY AGGRESSIVELY AROUND THE

09:33:06 VOTING RIGHTS, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THE SUBSTANTIALS IN

09:33:09 HUMAN DIGNITY AS WELL AS HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT IS

09:33:09 NEEDED.

09:33:13 SO THIS CITY CAN BE A FIRST STEP.

09:33:16 WE HAVE A LOT OF MAJOR PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING ON

09:33:17 BOARD.

09:33:20 WE WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE ANY OF THESE PROJECTS OR THIS

09:33:24 ORDINANCE USED AS JUST A MERE SMOKE AND MIRROR.

09:33:30 BUT HAVING REAL TANGIBLES IN PLACE, MEASUREMENTS THAT

09:33:34 WE CAN SAY BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMING INSIDE OF THE

09:33:37 CITY OF TAMPA WOULD BE ALIGNED WITH THIS AUDIENCE THAT

09:33:39 WILL GIVE PEOPLE REAL OPPORTUNITY.

09:33:42 SO IT WOULDN'T BE A WINDOW-DRESSING.

09:33:48 THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MONITOR PARTICIPATION, MONITOR

09:33:52 DEVELOPMENT, AND ALSO, ESSENTIALLY, AT THE END OF THE

09:33:55 DAY, SEEING PEOPLE BECOMING PRODUCTIVE TAXPAYERS.

09:33:58 WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THIS ORDINANCE AND YOUR

09:33:59 LEADERSHIP AROUND IT.

09:33:59 THANK YOU.

09:34:00 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

09:34:02 WE APPRECIATE YOU.

09:34:06 IF MR. VOLTS IS AVAILABLE.

09:34:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE IS ONLINE.

09:34:13 >>LUIS VIERA: HONOR TO HAVE FROM THE FLORIDA RIGHTS

09:34:14 COALITION.

09:34:17 ARE YOU IN FORT MYERS OR TALLAHASSEE?

09:34:20 >> I AM ACTUALLY IN WASHINGTON D.C. HONORED TO BE THERE

09:34:23 VIA TECHNOLOGY AND WHAT AN EXCITING MOMENT.

09:34:25 >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD, SIR.

09:34:25 >> OKAY.

09:34:25 THANK YOU.

09:34:29 I JUST WANT TO SAY I THINK THIS IS A REAL WIN-WIN

09:34:32 OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

09:34:36 I APPRECIATE THE PROCESS IN WHICH IT IS BEING SET UP

09:34:42 AND THE COLLABORATION IN WHICH -- LUIS, I JUST WANT TO

09:34:46 SAY YOU -- COUNCILMAN, FOR REACHING OUT TO THOSE WHO

09:34:49 ARE MOST IMPACTED BY THESE POLICIES, OUR LOCAL BUSINESS

09:34:53 COMMUNITY, THE FAITH COMMUNITY, THE RETURNING CITIZEN

09:34:55 COMMUNITY, THOSE IMPACTED BY THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE

09:34:58 SYSTEM AND BEGIN A PROCESS WHAT WE BELIEVE IS GOOD FOR

09:34:59 EVERYBODY.

09:35:02 IF SOMEBODY CAN GET WORK WHO HAS BEEN IMPACTED BY THE

09:35:05 CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM, NOT ONLY DO THEY BENEFIT, THE

09:35:09 FAMILY BENEFITS, AND OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES BENEFIT AND

09:35:12 OUR FAITH COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND INCREASE AND IMPROVE

09:35:15 PUBLIC SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITY SO EVERYONE BENEFITS.

09:35:19 I THINK THAT IS AN EXAMPLE AND CAN BE, YOU KNOW, A

09:35:21 FOUNDATION THAT CAN GROW AND ULTIMATELY LIVES CAN BE

09:35:25 CHANGED IN OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE IMPROVED DRAMATICALLY

09:35:27 BECAUSE OF THESE EFFORTS.

09:35:29 WANTS TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT CAME TOGETHER TO BEGIN TO

09:35:32 MOVE THIS PROCESS AND LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING THIS THE

09:35:35 BEST THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN KNOWING THAT PEOPLE'S LIVES

09:35:37 IN THE BACK END OF IT.

09:35:39 AND SAY THANK YOU TO THE RETURNING CITIZEN COMMUNITY

09:35:42 FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND EFFORTS.

09:35:45 SECOND CHANCE EMPLOYMENT IS VITAL TO ALL OF US.

09:35:47 THANK YOU.

09:35:49 >>LUIS VIERA: NEIL, THANK YOU.

09:35:51 TO HAVE THE CITY OF TAMPA PARTNER UP WITH THE FUTURE

09:35:57 WITH GOOD FRIENDS AT FLORIDA RIGHTS COALITION INCLUDING

09:35:58 MISS BURTON.

09:36:03 NICHOLAS GLOVER WITH THE TAMPA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND

09:36:08 JOE PREVASCO WITH THE JCC FEDERATION.

09:36:09 GENTLEMEN.

09:36:11 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

09:36:13 COUNCILWOMAN, SO GOOD TO SEE YOU.

09:36:15 GOOD TO SAY THAT.

09:36:18 COUNCILMAN GUDES, SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.

09:36:22 NICHOLAS GLOVER, AS COUNCILMAN VIERA SHARED ON BEHALF OF

09:36:24 TAMPA CHAMBER.

09:36:27 VERY BRIEF AND LET JOE GIVE MORE DETAILED COMMENTS, BUT

09:36:31 THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITIES TO ALLOW BUSINESSES TO DO WELL

09:36:33 AND DO GOOD.

09:36:35 I WILL TAKE THE EMOTION OUT OF IT.

09:36:38 WHEN WE THINK OF OUR PRIORITIES ON THE LOCAL LEVEL,

09:36:40 THEY GO THROUGH SEVEN GUIDING PRINCIPLES, BUT IN

09:36:43 ORDINANCE INTERSECTS THREE IF NOT MORE OF THEM

09:36:47 INCLUDING BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WORKFORCE

09:36:50 DEVELOPMENT AND EDUCATION, AND DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND

09:36:50 INCLUSION.

09:36:52 VERY IMPORTANT INTERSECTION.

09:36:55 I CANNOT OVERSTATE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR US TO THINK

09:36:59 ABOUT THE BEST PUBLIC POLICY INITIATIVES THAT WE CAN

09:37:02 PRESCRIBE TO EVERYONE IS A GOOD PAYING JOB WITH SOME

09:37:03 DIGNITY.

09:37:05 THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.

09:37:07 GETTING PEOPLE BACK IN THE WORKFORCE AS CONNIE

09:37:09 MENTIONED.

09:37:11 BACK WITH US PAYING TAXES.

09:37:14 THAT IS THE BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTION FOR YOU AS THE

09:37:16 CHAMBER SEES IT.

09:37:19 WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU COUNCILMAN VIERA ON

09:37:22 THIS INITIATIVE AND ADVOCATE TO OUR MEMBERS AND BROADER

09:37:25 BUSINESS COMMUNITY HOW IMPORTANT THIS INITIATIVE IS FOR

09:37:26 US ALL.

09:37:28 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.

09:37:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

09:37:30 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.

09:37:35 JOE PREVASCO, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

09:37:37 ADDRESS THE COUNCIL THIS MORNING.

09:37:39 IF YOU ASK ANY BUSINESS LEADER IN THE COMMUNITY, WE ARE

09:37:41 FACING THREE THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO THE LABOR POOL:

09:37:45 RECRUITMENT, RETENTION, AND UPSCALING.

09:37:49 IF YOU READ THE NEWS, YOU ARE HEARING LABOR SHORTAGE.

09:37:50 LABOR SHORTAGE.

09:37:51 I CAN'T FIND TALENT.

09:37:53 I CAN'T FIND TALENT.

09:37:56 I THINK WHAT WE ARE DOING IS OVERLOOKING A TREMENDOUS

09:38:00 LABOR POOL AVAILABLE FOR US IF WE POLISH THE LENS A

09:38:01 LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

09:38:04 MY ROLE HERE AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS OWNER IN TAMPA IS TO

09:38:08 REALLY EDUCATE MY COUNTERPARTS AND USE THIS AS AN

09:38:10 OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEM LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT

09:38:12 DIFFERENTLY AND TAKE A STEP BACK.

09:38:14 WE ARE BLESSED IN TAMPA TO HAVE ONE OF THE MOST

09:38:17 INNOVATIVE BUSINESS COMMUNITIES THAT YOU WILL SEE IN

09:38:20 THIS COUNTRY AND SOMETIMES WE NEED TO TAKE STEP BACK

09:38:24 AND SAY IS THIS SYSTEM WE HAVE IN PLACE MAKING SENSE.

09:38:27 I THINK IF WE DO THAT OBJECTIVELY, THE ANSWER IS NO.

09:38:31 WE TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THIS RESOLUTION AND

09:38:34 ORDINANCE DOES TO LEAD FROM THE CITY SIDE ALLOW US FROM

09:38:37 THE PRIVATE MARKETS TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH OUR

09:38:40 COUNTERPARTS AND SAY, LISTEN, LET'S LOOK AT THIS LABOR

09:38:41 POOL.

09:38:44 LET'S LOOK AT THIS DIFFERENTLY THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST

09:38:48 AND SEE IF WE CAN HELP REDUCE LABOR ISSUES AND GET

09:38:50 FOLKS SOME GOOD PAYING JOBS.

09:38:53 I THINK WHAT THE DATA WILL SHOW AND WHAT THE DATA

09:38:56 SUPPORTS, ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE LOYAL EMPLOYEES

09:38:58 THAT PERFORM AT PAR OR ABOVE.

09:39:01 THEY ARE COUNTERPARTS AND JUST A WAY TO REVISITS THIS

09:39:03 AND LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

09:39:05 I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS EVERYBODY THIS

09:39:05 MORNING.

09:39:09 AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL CONSIDERING THIS

09:39:10 ORDINANCE.

09:39:11 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, JOE.

09:39:13 NEXT, A GENTLEMAN WHO I THINK ADDRESSED US TWO WEEKS

09:39:14 AGO.

09:39:18 MY GOOD FRIEND, MR. ROBERT BROWN, PRESIDENT OF

09:39:22 ABE BROWN MINISTRIES AND READ A STATEMENT FROM FREDDY

09:39:24 BARTON FROM SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH.

09:39:26 GO AHEAD.

09:39:32 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

09:39:35 THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE OF MEN AND WOMEN RETURNING FROM

09:39:40 INCARCERATION IS 20% HIGHER THAN JUST OUR AVERAGE

09:39:40 CITIZEN.

09:39:45 AND OUR FOUNDER REVEREND ABE BROWN WAS A MAN FULL OF

09:39:48 BIG IDEAS COME TO BELIEVED YOU SHOULD LIVE AND LEAD BY

09:39:51 EXAMPLE, AND SIGN THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY OF LEADERSHIP.

09:39:53 WHEN OTHER EMPLOYERS SEE THE CITY OF TAMPA LEADING IN

09:39:56 THIS ARENA, THEY WILL FOLLOW.

09:40:01 AND I AM ALSO PLEASED TO SAY THAT ABE BROWN MINISTRIES,

09:40:03 TOO, PRACTICE WHAT WE PREACH.

09:40:08 WE HAVE TWO EMPLOYEES WHO ARE FORMERLY INCARCERATED.

09:40:11 INDIVIDUALS -- ONE OF WHOM SERVED TEN YEARS IN PRISON.

09:40:12 WAS DIVORCED.

09:40:15 HIS WIFE DIVORCED HIM WHILE HE WAS INCARCERATED.

09:40:20 BUT WHEN HE GOT OUT, HE NOT ONLY REMARRIED HIS WIFE AND

09:40:23 PURSUED THAT RELATIONSHIP, BUT, AGAIN, TO THE USF

09:40:27 STUDENTS, HE IS A GRADUATE OF THE SCHOOL OF SOCIAL WORK

09:40:28 AT USF.

09:40:31 HE IS DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB AND EMPLOYED WITH US FOR

09:40:31 TWO YEARS.

09:40:38 AND THAT IS REALLY THE STORY THAT WE HOPE THAT THROUGH

09:40:42 THIS TYPE OF LEADERSHIP WE CAN CONTINUE TO DEMONSTRATE

09:40:43 HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

09:40:48 SO I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE

09:40:53 AND TO LEAD IN THIS VERY CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT MATTER.

09:40:56 THANK YOU.

09:40:57 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, ROBERT.

09:41:00 I WILL READ A STATEMENT FROM FREDDY BARTON.

09:41:03 WE WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA

09:41:07 TO GIVE US A BIGGER FOOTPRINT ON THE ISSUE OF RETURNING

09:41:12 CITIZENS BY ENCOURAGING CONTRACTORS TO HIRE CITIZENS

09:41:15 AND BY FORMALLY THE FIRST TIME EVER STARTING WITH CITY

09:41:19 DOLLARS, PARTNERSHIP FOR THE COUNTY WITH APPRENTICESHIP

09:41:23 AND TRAINING SOLELY DESIGNATED FOR RETURNING CITIZENS

09:41:28 AND WE HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM GWEN MYERS, COUNTY

09:41:30 COMMISSIONER TO SEEK THAT MONEY AND HAVE THE CITY

09:41:34 REPORT ON THE NUMBER OF RETURNING CITIZENS WE HIRE TO

09:41:36 CONTINUE TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE TO MAKE THAT THE FIRST STEP

09:41:40 AND PARTNERING UP WITH FRIENDS IN THE PRIVATES SECTOR,

09:41:43 CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND ENCOURAGING THE HIRING OF

09:41:43 RETURNING CITIZENS.

09:41:47 FROM MR. BARTON READS AS FOLLOWS: GOOD MORNING TO THE

09:41:50 CHAIR AND MEMBERS CITY COUNCIL AND EVERYBODY PRESENT.

09:41:53 IT IS MY PLEASURE TO SPEAK ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.

09:41:55 UNFORTUNATELY, I AM NOT ABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON, BUT

09:41:57 IMPORTANT TO LET YOU KNOW WHY.

09:42:00 AT THIS TIME I AM CURRENTLY IN TODAY'S JUVENILE

09:42:03 DETENTION HEARINGS WHERE PREARRAIGNMENT STATUS FOR

09:42:04 YOUTHS ARRESTED YESTERDAY.

09:42:06 UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS A DAILY EVENT.

09:42:09 THE YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE IN NEED OF SEVERAL

09:42:13 SERVICES, BUT A POSITIVE PATHWAY OUT OF DELINQUENCY IS

09:42:14 ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES.

09:42:18 WE KNOW THAT EDUCATION AND GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT TWO OF

09:42:20 THE GREAT EQUALIZERS IN LIFE.

09:42:23 SURVEY DONE RECENTLY WITH 50 YOUTH ARRESTED HERE IN

09:42:27 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHOW THAT 65% OF YOUTH ARREST HUMID

09:42:30 ONE OR MORE PARENTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY INCARCERATED

09:42:34 OR ARRESTED HALF OF THOSE PARENTS HAD NOT BEEN EMPLOYED

09:42:36 FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.

09:42:39 WITH NO LEGAL MEANS TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES, WE

09:42:44 SEE THE PROPENSITY OF FURTHER CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR AND-OR

09:42:45 VIOLENCE.

09:42:49 WE AT SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH WORK TO PREVENT

09:42:52 VIOLENCE FOR YOUTH AND THEIR FAMILIES, WE KNOW THERE

09:42:55 MUST BE POLICIES IN PLACE OF SECURING GAINFUL

09:42:57 EMPLOYMENT ALLOWING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE

09:43:00 FAMILY-SUSTAINING EMPLOYMENT INCREASING QUALITY OF LIFE

09:43:04 FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES AND SHOWING OUR YOUTH

09:43:07 THAT THOUGH YOU MAY HAVE MADE A MISTAKE IN THE PAST,

09:43:09 YOU ARE NOT YOUR MISTAKE.

09:43:10 NOT YOUR MISTAKE IN CAPS.

09:43:12 PARENTHESES.

09:43:15 WE FULLY COMMIT THIS ENDEAVOR AND PARTNER WITH THE CITY

09:43:19 AND COMMUNITY FOR TRAINING ASSISTANCE, WRAP-AROUND

09:43:22 SUPPORT AND MENTORSHIP AS PART OF THIS INITIATIVE.

09:43:25 FREDDY BARTON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SAFE AND SOUND

09:43:26 HILLSBOROUGH.

09:43:29 AGAIN, I WANTED TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THIS ISSUE

09:43:32 BEFORE WE DEAL WITH THIS TOWARD THE END OF COUNCIL.

09:43:34 AND IF MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

09:43:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:43:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BACK IN 2019, I MADE A MOTION IN

09:43:42 REFERENCE TO THIS SAME TYPE OF PROGRAM.

09:43:46 AND ASKED FOR HR TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE CRITERIA.

09:43:49 I THINK THEY CAME BACK AND LOOKED AT SOME THINGS.

09:43:52 I AM GLAD WE HAVE A BIGGER GROUP TO GET THINGS MOVING.

09:43:54 I DID LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE AND I TALKED TO MR. BENNETT

09:43:56 ABOUT THAT.

09:43:58 I HAVE SOME CONCERNS BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE

09:44:02 ORDINANCE -- LOOK WHAT THE ORDINANCE PRESENTS, A LOT OF

09:44:05 TIMES, WE WANT TO DO GOOD, BUT THERE ARE OTHER

09:44:05 BARRIERS.

09:44:10 AND WE LOOK AT THE BARRIERS, IT'S THE INSURANCE

09:44:12 CARRIERS THAT HAVE A BARRIER TO WHERE THEY WILL NOT

09:44:15 ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE HIRED.

09:44:18 SO I TALKED TO MR. BENNETT AND HOPEFULLY, HE WILL TALK

09:44:21 HOW TO GET A PILOT PROGRAM FOR THE BOND SITUATION

09:44:24 BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR BEST INTENTIONS.

09:44:27 BUT I CAN TELL YOU, THERE IS A ROADBLOCK THERE THAT IS

09:44:29 STOPPING THE PROCESS.

09:44:31 MAYBE THE CITY AND THE COUNTY CAN COME UP WITH SOME

09:44:34 KIND OF PILOT PROGRAM WITH THE PROGRAM TO FOSTER AND

09:44:38 MOVE THE RE-ENTRY OF SECOND CHANCE SO PEOPLE CAN BE

09:44:39 EMPLOYED.

09:44:41 HOPEFULLY HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.

09:44:44 AND MR. BENNETT AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET

09:44:45 TO ITEM 50 TODAY.

09:44:50 THERE IS A ROADBLOCK AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO -- WE

09:44:53 WOULD LIKE TO DO THINGS AT A LOCAL AND NEED MISS HART

09:44:55 AND OTHERS TO GET ON BOARD TO KNOCK THE WHOLE BLOCK

09:44:56 DOWN.

09:44:56 THANK YOU.

09:44:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:45:01 YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN FORGIVENESS AND SECOND CHANCES.

09:45:03 I MENTIONED IT A FEW TIMES UP HERE.

09:45:06 WHAT IS THE POINT OF SOMEBODY GIVING A PRISON SENTENCE

09:45:08 FOR WHATEVER LONG IT MAY BE.

09:45:09 THEY GET OUT OF PRISON.

09:45:11 AND THEY ARE CONTINUOUSLY PUNISHED.

09:45:16 LIKE A PERPETUAL SLAVERY, THEY CAN'T GET A HAND UP --

09:45:19 NOT A HAND OUT, BUT A HAND UP TO REJOIN SOCIETY AND BE

09:45:21 PRODUCTIVE.

09:45:24 INSTEAD THEY ARE KEPT IN THIS PERPETUITY OF THE

09:45:26 CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

09:45:27 AND YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.

09:45:30 YOU KNOW THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATES, THE ISSUES, THE ROAD

09:45:32 BLOCKS, ALL THIS STUFF.

09:45:36 GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO -- TO GET THEIR RIGHTS

09:45:39 RESTORED, TO VOTE, TO WORK.

09:45:42 I MEAN I KNOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE I HAVE MET IN MY LIFE

09:45:46 THAT STUPID PINGS WHEN THEY WERE YOUNG.

09:45:50 ONE GENTLEMAN WAS IN PRISON FOR 12 YEARS ROBBING A

09:45:51 7-ELEVEN AT GUNPOINT.

09:45:56 IF I YOU DIDN'T KNOW OR TELL STORY YOU WOULD THINK A

09:45:56 NICE GUY.

09:45:59 HE TOLD ME THE STORY THAT WHEN HE GOT OUT OF PRISON, HE

09:46:01 WENT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HERE TO APPLY FOR A JOB.

09:46:03 HE SAID I WILL DO EVERYTHING,

09:46:05 MOP THE FLOORS AND WHATEVER IT IS AND THEY LAUGHED AT

09:46:07 HIM THINKING ARE YOU CRAZY.

09:46:09 YOU JUST GOT OUT OF PRISON 12 YEARS.

09:46:12 HE STARTED HIS OWN CLEANING BUSINESS.

09:46:14 HE HAS HIS OWN FAMILY.

09:46:15 HE HAS A HOUSE.

09:46:18 PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY AND REGISTERED TO VOTE

09:46:20 OVER MANY, MANY YEARS.

09:46:23 IT LIVES THAT WE LIVE IN SUCH A JUDGMENTAL SOCIETY THAT

09:46:24 WE PUNISH PEOPLE.

09:46:27 GIVE THEM A SENTENCE OF WHATEVER IT IS AND WE

09:46:30 CONTINUOUSLY PUNISH THEM WITHOUT LETTING THEM JUST BE

09:46:31 PRODUCTIVE.

09:46:35 LIVE THEIR LIFE LIKE ANY HUMAN BEING.

09:46:37 I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP.

09:46:40 I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN GUDES BRINGING UP THIS EARLIER.

09:46:41 I AM IN TOTAL SUPPORT.

09:46:50 I WANT TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO SUPPORT THOSE

09:46:52 INDIVIDUALS WHO MADE MISTAKES.

09:46:53 WE ALL MADE MY STAKES.

09:46:57 THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BE FREE AND BE PRODUCTIVE AND VOTE

09:47:03 AND TAKE PART IN OUR ELECTION SYSTEM.

09:47:05 SO MANY THINGS TO SAY, BUT SECOND CHANCES AND

09:47:07 FORGIVENESS.

09:47:11 PRACTICE WHAT WE PREACH AND THANK YOU, SIR, AND ALL THE

09:47:13 SPEAKERS TODAY FOR COMING.

09:47:14 ANYBODY ELSE ON THE DAIS?

09:47:16 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

09:47:19 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY TO COUNCILMAN GUDES' POINT.

09:47:24 I ALWAYS JOKE THE TEN SUGGESTIONS, NOT THE TEN

09:47:25 COMMANDMENTS.

09:47:31 100% FOR IMPROVEMENT.

09:47:33 AND MY INTENT ON THIS IS TO GET THE CONVERSATION

09:47:37 STARTED BY GETTING OUR FEET IN THE WATER, SO TO SPEAK,

09:47:40 ON THIS ISSUE TO GAIN THE PEOPLE'S TRUST BY HAVING A

09:47:44 TEST PILOT, APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM WITH THE COUNTY TO

09:47:50 GIVE SKILLS TO PEOPLE AND THIS ISSUE -- PEOPLE WERE

09:47:52 RAISED IN THE SUBURBS, ETC.

09:47:54 AND YOU NEVER THINK ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

09:47:57 WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THIS.

09:47:59 SHOULD THINK AS AMERICANS.

09:48:02 CHRISTIAN, JEW, MUSLIM, WHATEVER, WE SHOULD THINK OF

09:48:07 THIS AS A COMPASSIONATE PERSON.

09:48:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, CAN I REQUEST A QUESTION.

09:48:13 CHIEF BENNETT.

09:48:16 >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING.

09:48:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE CITY HAS A POLICY OF BAN THE BOX.

09:48:24 CAN WE MANDATORY MAKE COMPANIES THAT DO CONTRACT WORK

09:48:29 WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, CAN WE MAKE EMPLOYERS THAT WORK

09:48:33 WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA -- WITH WE MAKE IT POSSIBLE THAT

09:48:38 IN THEIR APPLICATIONS THEY HAVE ALSO BAN THE BOX SO

09:48:42 THAT WORK THAT IS BEING DONE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA,

09:48:49 MUCH LIKE OUR -- OUR NONFOSSIL FUEL CONTAINERS DURING

09:48:50 EVENTS.

09:48:53 CAN WE DO THAT FOR THE COMPANIES THAT WORK WITH THE

09:48:53 CITY OF TAMPA?

09:48:57 >>JOHN BENNETT: SURE, JOHN BENNETT.

09:49:01 COUNCILMAN GUDES' POINT.

09:49:03 WE HAVE AN LEGAL ACTION.

09:49:07 I DON'T KNOW THE LEGALITY OF MAKING THEM DO IT, BUT I

09:49:10 DO KNOW QUITE OFTEN IN OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS THERE

09:49:12 ARE BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT COME THROUGH TO THE CITY.

09:49:16 I HAVE PERSONALLY SCRUTINIZED THOSE ALL THE WAY BACK --

09:49:21 I WAS TELLING COUNCILMAN GUDES' YESTERDAY EVEN BACK TO

09:49:24 THE 2009 SUPER BOWL WHEN THE FEDS WERE RUNNING

09:49:25 EVERYBODY BEFORE THE EVENT.

09:49:29 I HAD THE FINAL AUTHORITY TO APPROVE ALL THE WORK

09:49:32 FORCES AND A LOT OF THEM HAD RECORDS AND I PASSED THEM

09:49:34 RIGHT THROUGH, BECAUSE THE TYPE OF WORK THEY WERE DOING

09:49:38 AND BACKGROUNDS MET AN OPPORTUNITY.

09:49:41 SO THERE IS OPPORTUNITY AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AS

09:49:45 A CITY ARE THOSE COMPANIES THAT OPT IN TO BAN THE BOX

09:49:48 MAY BE ABLE TO GET EQUAL OPPORTUNITY POINTS IN THE

09:49:51 SYSTEM SO THAT WAY WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET

09:49:53 ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH THE CITY.

09:49:56 IF I COULD HAVE A POINT OF PRIVILEGE.

09:49:59 I WANT TO SHARE A STORY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

09:50:01 RIGHT AT THE END OF MY CAREER I GOT A CALL FROM THE

09:50:03 DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS SAYING THEY WERE RELEASING IN

09:50:06 THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH NO ADDRESS ONE OF THE WORST

09:50:09 OFFENDERS THEY HAD THAT SAT IN PRISON FOR 25 YEARS.

09:50:12 THEY SAID THEY WERE DROPPING HIM OFF AT THE BUS STOP ON

09:50:14 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE BECAUSE THIS PERSON HAD NO ADDRESS

09:50:17 AND THEY SAID HE WILL BE A DANGER TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.

09:50:18 I GOT OUT OF MY OFFICE.

09:50:22 I SAID HAVE THEM MEET ME AT THE CORNER, THIS

09:50:22 GENTLEMAN.

09:50:24 HE SAT IN PRISON FOR 25 YEARS.

09:50:27 HE WAS BEING DROPPED OFF HERE.

09:50:30 I CALLED THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND THREE DAYS OF

09:50:33 PAYING FOR SHELTER, THEY GAVE HIM A JOB AT MY REQUEST.

09:50:36 THAT GUY WITHIN SEVERAL MONTHS HAD HIS OWN APARTMENT,

09:50:40 HIS OWN JOB AND STILL WORKING TODAY AFTER 25 YEARS.

09:50:41 SO THERE ARE TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITIES.

09:50:44 AND ONE PARTNER WITH PARTNERS WE CAN DO MORE.

09:50:47 ONE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON WITHIN

09:50:49 THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS THE DEPARTMENT OF

09:50:50 CORRECTIONS.

09:50:56 AND THE RISK AND NEEDS AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THESE

09:51:00 PROGRAMS, QUITE OFTEN THE PEOPLE I HIRED IN THE CITY

09:51:02 WHO HAVE BACKGROUNDS HAVE GONE THROUGH SPECIALIZED

09:51:05 TRAINING WHILE THEY WERE DOING THEIR COMMUNITY JUSTICE,

09:51:06 IF YOU WILL.

09:51:08 THEY COME OUT AND THEY ARE HIRABLE BY THE CITY.

09:51:10 WE HAVE PROGRESSION IN THE SPACE.

09:51:13 BUT WITH THESE PARTNERS WE CAN DO A LOT MORE.

09:51:16 THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, YES.

09:51:19 I THINK THE WAY WE ARE LOOKING AT IT IS APPLY

09:51:21 ADDITIONAL POINTS FOR COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE THAT

09:51:21 OPPORTUNITY.

09:51:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE LAST STATEMENT, MR. CHAIR.

09:51:25 THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT.

09:51:28 IF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS GOING TO LEAD THE WAY ON THIS,

09:51:30 EVERYBODY THAT IS INVOLVED WITH WORK IN THE CITY OF

09:51:32 TAMPA SHOULD FOLLOW.

09:51:33 SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

09:51:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF BENNETT, YOU KNOW, YOU

09:51:39 PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH.

09:51:41 MANY TIMES I SEE YOU -- I KNOW YOU GO TO CHURCH EVERY

09:51:42 MORNING.

09:51:44 MANY TIMES I HAVE BEEN IN THE BACK.

09:51:44 I SEE YOU.

09:51:47 YOU LIVE BY FAITH.

09:51:49 IN HOW YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE AND THE PEOPLE THAT YOU

09:51:50 HELPED.

09:51:54 YOU PROVEN IT JUST IN THAT STORY BUT ONE OF MANY

09:51:54 STORIES.

09:51:58 I KNOW YOUR CHARACTER AND I THINK WE ALL CAN LEARN FOR

09:52:03 THAT COMPASSION, SECOND CHANCES, FORGIVENESS, LIFT

09:52:06 PEOPLE UP, LET PEOPLE BE PRODUCTIVE.

09:52:08 HELP THEM BE PRODUCTIVE.

09:52:10 >>JOHN BENNETT: YOU ARE WELCOME AND THIS

09:52:12 ADMINISTRATION SUPPORTS STAFF FROM THE TOP DOWN.

09:52:12 THANK YOU.

09:52:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN ELSE?

09:52:17 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA AND ALL THE SPEAKERS.

09:52:19 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

09:52:23 WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC -- BEFORE -- RECORDING ROME YARD,

09:52:26 WHEN WE COME BACK FROM LUNCH, LET'S SAY 1:30 SO WE HAVE

09:52:33 A TIME CERTAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE ROME YARD

09:52:34 DISCUSSION FIRST.

09:52:39 WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING AND ROME YARD AT 1:30.

09:52:42 YOU CAN SPEAK NOW, BUT WE WILL BRING IT -- BECAUSE WE

09:52:44 HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE FOR IT.

09:52:45 YES, MR. SHELBY.

09:52:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE CHAIR FOR THE FLOOR TO OPEN ITEMS

09:52:52 THEN OR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ROME YARD.

09:52:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SPEAK UP TO ROME YARD AND LEAVE IT

09:52:59 UP TO THE STAFF AT 1:30.

09:53:00 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:53:02 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST ASK -- ASK CHIEF OF STAFF

09:53:06 AND LEGAL WHY ROME YARD WAS PUT ON CONSENT AGENDA.

09:53:10 WITH A 99-YEAR LEASE, THE TOTAL OF IT WOULD SURPASS THE

09:53:13 TOTAL AMOUNT THAT SHOULD BE ON CONSENT AGENDA.

09:53:16 I KNOW YOU ASKED TO MOVE IT TO STAFF REPORTS.

09:53:19 WHY WAS IT PUT ON CONSENTS?

09:53:25 >>JOHN BENNETT: I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, COUNCILMAN.

09:53:27 BETWEEN THAT AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE, THAT IS WHERE IT

09:53:28 LANDED.

09:53:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK COUNCIL.

09:53:33 BUT WE DISCUSSED THIS -- I DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE

09:53:34 CLERK'S OFFICE.

09:53:39 THE PROCESS IS WHEN IT GOES THROUGH SIRE AND THE CLERK

09:53:42 CAN CLARIFY CERTAINLY, IT IS NORMALLY PLACED ON THE

09:53:44 CONSENTS DOCKET.

09:53:46 IF THE DEPARTMENT REQUESTS IT IS PULLED.

09:53:49 OR A COUNCILMEMBER IT IS PULLED.

09:53:51 >>BILL CARLSON: A DOLLAR AMOUNT MINIMUM THAT IF YOU

09:53:56 LOOK AT THE 99 YEARS OF THE LEASE THAT SURPASSES THAT.

09:53:59 IN THE FIRST YEAR IT DOESN'T, BUT AFTER THAT IT DOES.

09:54:03 >>CLERK: IF IT IS OVER $3 MILLION, IT IS AUTOMATICALLY

09:54:05 PLACED ON THE STAFF REPORT.

09:54:08 IN THIS CASE REFERENCED OVER $3 MILLION.

09:54:11 THAT IS WHY STAFF ASKED TO BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.

09:54:14 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO AND A HALF MILLION THE FIRST YEAR

09:54:16 BUT THEN 15% OF RENT OVER 99 YEARS.

09:54:20 THAT HAS GOT TO SURPASS -- DOESN'T SAY CLEARLY AN

09:54:24 ESTIMATED NUMBER BUT WAY, WAY, WAY OVER $2.5 MILLION,

09:54:25 WAY OVER $3 MILLION.

09:54:28 WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE ITEM.

09:54:28 THANK YOU.

09:54:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:54:32 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:54:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A CLARIFICATION, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:54:38 FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE PLANNING TO BE AT THE 1:30

09:54:42 PUBLIC HEARING, ITEM 41.

09:54:47 IT IS YOUR INTENT -- COUNCIL'S INTENTS TO TAKE ITEMS 20

09:54:54 AND 21 BEFORE ITEM 41, THE 1:30?

09:54:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE THEM PULLED FOR DISCUSSION

09:55:00 TO GO UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

09:55:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.

09:55:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 20 AND 21 IS WHAT I AM TALKING

09:55:03 ABOUT.

09:55:04 1:30.

09:55:07 FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

09:55:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION WHAT TIME ITEM 41 WILL

09:55:12 BE TAKEN UP --

09:55:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IMMEDIATELY AFTER.

09:55:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IMMEDIATELY AFTER.

09:55:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT ONE PUBLIC HEARING.

09:55:20 IMMEDIATELY AFTER.

09:55:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDERSTOOD, THANK YOU.

09:55:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROME DISCUSSION MAY BE 15 MINUTES,

09:55:28 30 MINUTES.

09:55:30 WE WILL GO TO ROME AFTER THAT.

09:55:31 IS THAT FINE?

09:55:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN THE PEOPLE -- I DON'T KNOW

09:55:35 WHETHER THE PEOPLE COMING IN FOR THE 1:30 PUBLIC

09:55:37 HEARING WHETHER THEY ARE HEARING THIS OR NOT, BUT THEY

09:55:40 WILL BE INFORMED IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.

09:55:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:55:47 ALL RIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:55:50 IF YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM INCLUDING THE

09:55:51 ROME YARD.

09:55:54 PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTERN AND SAY YOUR NAME.

09:55:58 YES, SIR, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

09:56:01 >> BOB BITMORE, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CITY TREE.

09:56:04 I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING, COUNCILMAN GUDES,

09:56:06 I AM VERY SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.

09:56:09 AMAZING WHEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE THAT IN OUR LIVES.

09:56:13 IT JUST CHANGES THINGS AND IT IS GOOD THAT WE RECOGNIZE

09:56:14 THAT.

09:56:16 I SPENT A FEW YEARS FIGHTING FOR TREES IN THIS ROOM.

09:56:19 I HAD A FEW WINS AND A LOT OF LOSSES.

09:56:22 BUT ALWAYS PROUD OF THE PROCESS.

09:56:24 THE FACT THAT THE CITIZENS CAN FIGHT FOR TREES IN THE

09:56:26 CITY IS ADMIRABLE.

09:56:31 BUT I NEVER REALIZED WHEN WE LOST THAT THE DECK WAS SO

09:56:34 STACKED AND THE SYSTEM WAS CORRUPTED.

09:56:37 AND JOHN DINGFELDER WAS FORCED OFF AS COUNCIL.

09:56:41 REVEAL A HARD TRUTH THAT A WELL-FUNDED GROUP OF

09:56:43 POWERFUL MEN AND WOMEN HAVE GAINED CONTROL OVER ELECTED

09:56:46 OFFICIALS WITH THE PROMISE OF MONEY OR A THREAT OF

09:56:50 LEGAL REPRISAL IF THEY DON'T TOW THE LINE.

09:56:52 COMPOUNDED BY AN ADMINISTRATION HELL BENT ON

09:56:55 DEVELOPMENT AT ALL COSTS.

09:56:57 THEY HAVE AN AGENDA.

09:56:58 THEY HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THEIR GRIPS.

09:57:01 THEY HAVE THE MONEY AND LEGAL FIRE POWER TO PUT IT NOT

09:57:05 THE FEAR OF GOD, THE FEAR OF LITIGATION INTO ANY

09:57:07 REPRESENT I HAVE THAT MIGHT CROSS THEM.

09:57:10 JOHN DINGFELDER CROSSED THEM.

09:57:14 AND HE DEALT -- AND HE WAS DEALT WITH BRUTALLY.

09:57:16 EVERYONE HERE KNOWS IT.

09:57:20 AND ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN PAYING ATTENTION, KNOWS IT.

09:57:24 THE MAYOR DIDN'T ASK JOHN DINGFELDER TO RESIGN.

09:57:28 THIS COUNCIL DIDN'T ASK JOHN DINGFELDER TO RESIGN.

09:57:32 YOU, THE PEOPLE, YOU CERTAINLY DIDN'T ASK JOHN

09:57:33 DINGFELDER TO RESIGN.

09:57:37 AND JOHN DINGFELDER DID NOT WANT TO RESIGN.

09:57:40 JOHN DINGFELDER WAS FORCED OUT OF OFFICE BY A

09:57:43 DEVELOPER, UNABLE TO PAY TO FIGHT THEM.

09:57:46 HE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO RESIGN.

09:57:49 AND THAT SHOULD, REGARDLESS OF YOUR POLITICS, MAKE YOU

09:57:51 VERY, VERY MAD.

09:57:54 BECAUSE THE VERY IDEA THAT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN BE

09:57:57 FORCED TO RESIGN BY LAWYERS AND DEVELOPERS STRIKE AT

09:58:00 THE VERY HEART OF OUR DEMOCRACY.

09:58:01 WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THIS ANGER?

09:58:04 WELL, YOU COME DOWN HERE AND LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL

09:58:08 AND TAKE YOUR THREE MINUTES TO TALK AND GIVE ANYONE WHO

09:58:10 COUNTS AN EARFUL.

09:58:14 THESE COUNCILMEMBERS, THE MAYOR, HER STAFF, PROBABLY A

09:58:16 FEW COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

09:58:18 BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.

09:58:22 OR YOU CAN WAIT TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD AT THE BALLOT

09:58:22 BOX.

09:58:24 I SUSPECT SOMEONE WILL BE WILLING TO GIVE THIS

09:58:27 COMPLICITY ADMINISTRATION A RUN FOR THEIR MONEY

09:58:29 CONSIDERING RECENT EVENTS.

09:58:33 OR YOU COULD DONATE TO THE GO FUND ME STARTED OUT TO

09:58:35 HELP JOHN RECOVER SOME OF HIS LOSSES INCURRED IN

09:58:38 FIGHTING THE DEVELOPERS.

09:58:39 GO FUND ME.

09:58:45 TYPE IN DEFEND DINGFELDER IN THE SEARCH BOX AND GO FROM

09:58:45 THERE.

09:58:47 A GREAT WAY TO FEEL LIKE YOU DID SOMETHING AND BELIEVE

09:58:50 ME, A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING BUT

09:58:53 MONEY AND VOTERS SEE US HAND $65,000 TO JOHN

09:58:57 DINGFELDER, RAISED $10 AT A TIME, THAT WILL GET SOME

09:58:58 ATTENTION.

09:59:01 IT JUST MAY TAKE SOME OF YOUR ANGER AWAY.

09:59:04 YOU CAN MAKE YOUR DONATIONS ANONYMOUSLY.

09:59:05 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:59:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:59:08 NEXT SPEAKER.

09:59:10 YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

09:59:13 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, ERNST CONEY WITH THE CITY OF

09:59:14 TAMPA.

09:59:17 COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE ALWAYS IN MY PRAYERS.

09:59:20 I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE ROME YARD PROJECT.

09:59:22 WE LOOK AT THAT PROJECT AND THINK ABOUT IT FROM, ONE,

09:59:24 FROM A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE.

09:59:27 THERE IS A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON THAT PROJECT

09:59:31 FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE INPUT ON SEVERING FROM

09:59:39 AMENITIES TO ALL TYPES OF EQUITABLE AND INCLUSION TO BE

09:59:41 INCLUDED IN THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT SMALL

09:59:44 BUSINESSES BOTH HISPANIC AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN ARE

09:59:45 INCLUDED ON THAT PROJECT.

09:59:49 ALSO THE FORESIGHT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE TALKED ABOUT

09:59:52 THE SKILLS GAP AND THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING WORKFORCE

09:59:53 INITIATIVES.

09:59:56 PART OF THIS IS ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A --

10:00:00 THERE IS A TRAINING SPACE THERE ON THE PROJECT AS WELL.

10:00:03 SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE

10:00:05 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND THE HIGH SCHOOLS THERE SO WE CAN

10:00:12 TRAIN YOUNG FOLKS ON THE TRADES AS WELL AS INTRODUCING

10:00:14 THEM TO PROFESSIONAL DEGREES.

10:00:18 ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, URBAN PLANNER.

10:00:22 WE CAN START AT AN EARLY AGE TO INTRODUCE THEM TO THESE

10:00:22 CONCEPTS.

10:00:24 A LOT OF RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR JOBS.

10:00:28 OFTENTIMES THEY WALK BY PROJECTS AND THEY SEE OTHER

10:00:30 PEOPLE WORKING AND THEY ARE NOT WORKING.

10:00:33 WE WANT TO TRAIN RESIDENTS TO WORK ON THOSE PROJECTS AT

10:00:34 THE ROME YARD PROJECT.

10:00:37 AND THEN AGAIN, WHEN IT IS ALL SAID AND DONE AND IT IS

10:00:42 FINISHED, A TRAINING CENTER TO LOOK AT ONE OF FASTEST

10:00:45 GROWING INDUSTRIES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE.

10:00:48 HEALTH CARE, INNOVATION, I.T.

10:00:51 SO WE CAN CONTINUE THIS TRAINING PROCESS AND SMALL

10:00:56 BUSINESSES THERE THAT WILL ALSO NEED THE SUPPORT OF A

10:00:58 WORKFORCE TRAINING OPERATION.

10:01:02 WE BROUGHT TOGETHER THE CDC OF TAMPA AND THE WEST TAMPA

10:01:04 CDC TO HELP WITH THE COMPONENTS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT

10:01:07 AND WORK FORCE INITIATIVES.

10:01:10 EXCITED TO BE PART OF THIS PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY THIS

10:01:13 WILL BE A TREMENDOUS PROJECT THAT WE CAN REALLY SET AS

10:01:16 A BEST PRACTICE OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OTHER

10:01:18 PROJECTS GOING FORWARD.

10:01:18 THANK YOU.

10:01:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:01:26 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

10:01:28 >> ROBIN LOCKETT.

10:01:30 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:01:33 I CAME DOWN HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE COMPLAINT REGISTRY

10:01:38 THAT IS BEING HEARD LATER ON TODAY.

10:01:43 BUT I NOTICE ON THE AGENDA, ALSO, THERE IS SOMETHING

10:01:47 AROUND THE 60-DAY NOTICE OF RENT INCREASE.

10:01:50 I AM IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

10:01:52 I THINK COUNCIL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO DO

10:01:55 SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, RIGHT.

10:01:57 AND NOT TO FOLLOW A TREND.

10:02:07 ACROSS THE STATE, EVERYBODY IS GIVING A 60 DAY --

10:02:12 EVERYONE IS GIVING A 60-DAY NOTICE FOR RENT INCREASE.

10:02:16 WHEN A PERSON IS DEALING WITH THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE

10:02:22 HOUSING, THE LACK OF FINDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE

10:02:29 ACTUAL RENT INCREASE, AND OTHERS, IT WILL TAKE A PERSON

10:02:32 -- WE ARE PUSHING FOR A 90-DAY OPTION, INSTEAD OF THE

10:02:36 60 DAY TO PROVIDE THAT PERSON MORE TIME TO BE ABLE TO

10:02:40 SAVE THEIR MONEY, PAY FOR THE DEPOSIT, PAY FOR THE FEES

10:02:43 AND STILL PAY RENT WHERE THEY ARE.

10:02:44 SO WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF IT.

10:02:48 WE WANT IT TO BE EXPANDED.

10:02:52 I SENT INFORMATION TO -- TO TWO OF THE COUNCILMEN.

10:02:53 I WILL SEND IT TO EVERYONE.

10:02:55 ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE ARE SENDING OUT TO THE

10:02:59 COUNCILMEN I WILL SEND IT TO EVERYONE SO YOU CAN REVIEW

10:02:59 IT.

10:03:01 A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND

10:03:03 PROVIDE A DIFFERENT WAY FOR PEOPLE.

10:03:06 WE ARE -- LIKE I SAID WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE

10:03:08 COMPLAINT REGISTRY.

10:03:11 WHERE IT HOLDS ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE LANDLORDS.

10:03:11 RIGHT.

10:03:15 HAS TOO HOLD ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE LANDLORDS.

10:03:16 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

10:03:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:03:22 YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

10:03:24 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

10:03:30 >> MALIK EPDALA.

10:03:33 IT IS STILL MORNING BUT ANYWAY, WHATEVER AGREEMENT TO

10:03:35 ACCEPT IT IN THE APPROPRIATE TIME FRAME THAT IS

10:03:36 PRESENTED.

10:03:41 MY ISSUE IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

10:03:46 LET'S GO BACK SOME YEARS AND LOOK AT, HOW DO WE GET

10:03:48 HERE.

10:03:53 IN TERMS OF THIS HOUSING SITUATION OR THE PEOPLE OF LOW

10:03:57 INCOME OR MINIMUM INCOME.

10:04:03 NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD HOUSING THAT COME FROM GREEDY

10:04:06 MEN.

10:04:09 THAT OPPRESS PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.

10:04:16 OPPRESSING THEM EITHER -- EVEN FURTHER SO WHAT WE WANT

10:04:17 TO DO.

10:04:20 WE WANT TO REPRESENT THESE PEOPLE AND LET'S STOP THIS.

10:04:24 LET'S MAKE SURE THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOW INCOME, NO

10:04:28 INCOME, OR EVEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED FOR

10:04:32 MANY, MANY YEARS BY EUROPEAN AMERICANS.

10:04:33 THAT INCLUDE YOU GUYS.

10:04:37 YOU GUYS THAT ARE EUROPEANS UP HERE.

10:04:39 YOU ARE A PART OF THAT PROBLEM.

10:04:42 AND YOU ARE BENEFITING FROM IT.

10:04:45 SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANT TO STOP IT.

10:04:49 YOU GOT A COLLECTIVE MINDS HERE THAT CAN STOP IT.

10:04:54 SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THAT KEEP YOU FROM STOPPING IT?

10:04:57 PERHAPS IT IS YOUR POCKETBOOK, THE GREED THAT WE ALL

10:04:59 HAVE IN US.

10:05:02 SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED

10:05:04 400 YEARS.

10:05:06 400-PLUS YEARS.

10:05:07 ARE WE WILLING TO STOP IT?

10:05:10 NO, BECAUSE AGAIN WE ARE BENEFITTING FROM IT.

10:05:12 SO IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, TALK TO THOSE

10:05:15 PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING.

10:05:17 ASK THEM HOW CAN WE DO THIS.

10:05:19 GET THEM INVOLVED.

10:05:22 GET OUT YOUR ANTENNAS OUT THERE AND TALK TO THESE

10:05:23 PEOPLE.

10:05:25 SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE.

10:05:26 THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE.

10:05:27 YOU MAKE THE RULES.

10:05:29 AND YOU ALSO BREAK THE RULES.

10:05:35 AND YOU BREAK THE RULES BRETT OWEN IT IS APPROPRIATE OR

10:05:38 WHEN IT IS BENEFICIAL TO YOU THAT MAKE THE RULES.

10:05:42 SO WE CAN STOP THIS WITH A LITTLE APPLICATION,

10:05:44 INTELLIGENT APPLICATION.

10:05:46 CONCERN FOR YOUR FELLOW MAN.

10:05:47 WE ARE YOUR FELLOW MAN.

10:05:50 I REPRESENT PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED.

10:05:54 I AM NOT OPPRESSED ANYMORE BECAUSE I DON'T ALLOW MYSELF

10:05:55 TO BE OPPRESSED.

10:05:57 THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED THEY DON'T KNOW

10:05:59 AND DON'T SEE THE WAY OUT.

10:06:02 AND THIS WHOLE SITUATION IN THIS HOUSING THING AND

10:06:06 RESTORATION OF RIGHTS AND PRISON REFORM, ETC., ETC.,

10:06:09 THESE THINGS ARE BEING PROSTITUTED, SOLD TO THE HIGHEST

10:06:13 BIDDER, SOLD TO THE PERSON THAT CAN GARNISH THE MOST

10:06:16 MONEY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE STACKING THEIR POCKET OR

10:06:19 PACKING THEIR POCKET WITH THE BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS OF

10:06:21 THESE POOR PEOPLE.

10:06:22 THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

10:06:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:06:29 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

10:06:30 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

10:06:35 MY NAME IS LYNN MYERS, AND I LIVE IN ZIP CODE 33629,

10:06:36 SOUTH TAMPA.

10:06:39 I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO

10:06:40 ADDRESS YOU THIS MORNING.

10:06:44 PRETTY MUCH I WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT THE LAST TWO

10:06:46 SPEAKERS HAD TO SAY.

10:06:52 44% OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN TAMPA ARE RENTERS.

10:06:58 IN 2021, THERE WAS A 24% INCREASE IN RENTS IN THIS

10:06:59 CITY.

10:07:03 IT CONTINUES TO RISE.

10:07:06 I READ IN THE NEWSPAPER SO MANY CASES.

10:07:09 I HAVE SOME PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, MOSTLY FROM MY

10:07:14 CHILDREN'S FRIENDS WHO ARE GRADUATING FROM COLLEGE NOW.

10:07:20 THEY ARE TRYING TO GO OUT TO FIND AN APARTMENT TO LIVE.

10:07:23 THEY HAVE FAIRLY LOW WAGE JOBS.

10:07:27 THEY COULDN'T AFFORD AN APARTMENT IN TAMPA.

10:07:30 MAYBE THEY CAN AFFORD IT AN HOUR AND A HALF NORTH OF

10:07:34 HERE, BUT THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO WORK IN TAMPA AND LIVE

10:07:34 IN.

10:07:38 PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR MINIMUM WAGE, THERE IS NO WAY THAT

10:07:42 A PERSON MAKING MINIMUM WAGE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE

10:07:46 TAMPA AREA.

10:07:49 AND IT ESPECIALLY EFFECTS PEOPLE OF COLOR.

10:07:52 AND IT EFFECTS ALL OF US, BUT ESPECIALLY PEOPLE OF

10:07:53 COLOR.

10:07:56 AND WE SHOULD ALL CARE ABOUT EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN OUR

10:07:57 CITY.

10:08:01 BECAUSE THOSE WHO LIVE IN OUR CITY, ALL OF US, WHETHER

10:08:07 WE MAKE A LOT OF MONEY OR WHETHER WE MAKE LOW WAGES, WE

10:08:08 ALL PARTICIPATE HERE.

10:08:09 WE ALL LIVE HERE.

10:08:11 WE WORK HERE.

10:08:13 WE SPEND MONEY HERE.

10:08:16 ANYWAY.

10:08:19 WHAT I WANT TO SAY WHICH SEEMS TO BE OBVIOUS TO

10:08:24 EVERYONE, BUT I THINK WHICH IS OVERLOOKED IS THAT

10:08:32 SHELTER, FOOD AND WATER ARE BASIC NECESSITIES AND

10:08:35 PEOPLE IN TAMPA, MANY OF US CANNOT HAVE SHELTER.

10:08:38 IT'S VERY NICE THAT WE ARE GOING TO GIVE AN EXTRA

10:08:46 AMOUNT OF TIME FOR -- TO NOTIFY RENTERS THAT THEIR RENT

10:08:49 IS GOING TO GO UP, BUT IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY IT,

10:08:55 WHAT DOES THAT MATTER.

10:09:00 SO I'M HERE TO SAY THAT WE NEED -- I AM APPEALING -- I

10:09:02 AM APPEALING TO YOUR HUMANITY.

10:09:07 AND I AM IMPLORING YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND TO

10:09:13 DECLARE A HOUSING STATE OF EMERGENCY IN TAMPA SO THAT

10:09:17 RENT CONTROL CAN BECOME EFFECTIVE.

10:09:18 PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING.

10:09:21 THANK YOU.

10:09:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:09:28 PASTOR WILLIAMS, ARE YOU NEXT, SIR?

10:09:30 >> NO, GO AHEAD.

10:09:31 YOU ARE BEFORE ME.

10:09:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATES YOUR

10:09:33 NAME.

10:09:38 >> GOOD MORNING, BARBARA VAN ERDSALE.

10:09:41 I AM 71 AND I HAVE BEEN DISABLED A LONG TIME AND

10:09:43 SUFFERED A STROKE DURING A HURRICANE IN BROWARD COUNTY.

10:09:45 I WAS UNCONSCIOUS THREE WEEKS.

10:09:48 WOKE UP PARALYZED WITH MY LEFT ARM TO MOVE AND THAT WAS

10:09:48 IT.

10:09:50 I WENT HOME TO DIE.

10:09:54 I HAD A SPECIAL NEEDS SON THAT TURNED 26 THAT YEAR, WHO

10:09:57 WAS STILL LIVING WITH ME WHO WAS MOVING TO ESTONIA TO

10:09:57 GET MARRIED.

10:09:59 WE NEVER THOUGHT HE WOULD GET THERE.

10:10:02 NOT ONLY DID HE GET THERE, BUT I GOT MY CONDO ON THE

10:10:07 MARKET FOR SALE A YEAR AGO AND BACK OUT IN PUBLIC THREE

10:10:10 YEARS AGO, GOING THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY

10:10:13 TRYING TO MAKE THE HOUSING SITUATION SAFER FOR MY

10:10:16 NEIGHBORS WHO WERE ALL BEING FORCED OUT OF THEIR

10:10:16 CONDOS.

10:10:20 I WATCHED HOW THE CONDOMINIUM, ATTORNEYS AND THE

10:10:25 REALTORS BULLIED US AND FORCED US OUT OF OUR HOMES.

10:10:28 AND THERE WASN'T A THING ANYBODY CAN TO DO STOP IT, NO

10:10:32 MATTER WHAT I SAID AND DID AT MEETINGS, I WAS SHUT DOWN

10:10:35 FROM EVERY LEVEL ILLEGALLY AND NOBODY CAME TO MY

10:10:36 RESCUE.

10:10:41 IT GOT SO BAD, I FINALLY WENT OUT UNDER THE NAME OF

10:10:44 BARBARA BUNNY WITH BUNNY EARS ON TO GET THE ATTENTION

10:10:47 OF THE MAYOR AND POLITICIANS AND PLED WITH THEM.

10:10:48 WE ARE LOSING OUR HOMES.

10:10:52 OUR CONDOMINIUMS ARE BEING LIVED IN BY PEOPLE FROM

10:10:55 OTHER COUNTRIES WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALLY PAYING THREE

10:10:59 TIMES WHAT WE CAN AFFORD AND NOBODY IS STOPPING THEM.

10:11:02 I AM ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE LEFT THAT OWN.

10:11:06 AND I'M HERE LIVING BY MYSELF, GETTING INJURED AND HURT

10:11:11 DAILY AND DOCUMENTATION FROM EVERY SOURCE OF LEGAL AID

10:11:15 TO THE REALTORS TO BROWARD LAWYERS CARE.

10:11:17 NOBODY HELPED ME.

10:11:23 I BEGGED FOR THEM TO STOP THE LIEN ON MY CONDO TO BE

10:11:25 RECOGNIZED AS ILLEGAL.

10:11:31 AND I WAS TOLD BY BROWARD LAWYERS CARE, PAY THE

10:11:34 SHYSTERS.

10:11:35 THEY ALWAYS WIN.

10:11:35 YOU HAVE NO RECOURSE.

10:11:37 I PAID THEM.

10:11:40 FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I PLAYED SHYSTERS.

10:11:43 THEY TURNED AROUND AND BILLED ME MORE MONEY AND WANTED

10:11:45 ME TO PAY MORE MONEY AND EXTORTED ME.

10:11:50 FROM THAT POINT ON, I REFUSED AND FOUR YEARS BY THIS

10:11:52 LITTLE NICK OF MY LIFE KNOWING AT ANY MOMENT I COULD BE

10:11:56 OUT OF MY HOME WITH NO PLACE TO GO AND NO FAMILY HERE

10:11:57 ON SOCIAL SECURITY.

10:12:02 WELL, I FINALLY SOLD MY CONDO, BUT TRYING TO SELL IT,

10:12:05 EVEN THE COMMISSIONER IN THE CITY OF MARGATE TRIED TO

10:12:08 LIST IT $30,000 UNDER VALUE.

10:12:10 IF I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING, I WOULD HAVE BEEN

10:12:11 CHEATED THERE TOO.

10:12:14 BUT I ASKED HIM TO LEAVE WHEN I KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING.

10:12:19 MEANWHILE I WENT TOO A CONDO CLOSING WITHOUT LEGAL AID

10:12:23 TO HELP ME AND I BEGGED FOR THEM TO HELP ME AND I HAVE

10:12:26 THEIR FOLLOW-UP LETTERS THEY SAID NOTHING I COULD DO.

10:12:27 I WAS ON MY OWN.

10:12:32 THEY DID A CLOSING WITHOUT EVEN TELLING ME WHAT THEY

10:12:35 WERE DOING AND TRIED TO GET ME TO SIGN AN ADDENDUM

10:12:40 SAYING I WAS GOING TO RENT MY CONDO BACK FOR $1200 A

10:12:42 MONTH BECAUSE THEY PERFORMANCE AND IT WAS SPRING BREAK

10:12:44 AND I HAD NOWHERE TO MOVE NOW.

10:12:46 THEY LEFT ME IN THE LURCH.

10:12:49 THE PERSON THAT BOUGHT MY CONDO IS FROM ANOTHER

10:12:50 COUNTRY.

10:12:51 DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS.

10:12:54 THE REALTOR, HE IS FROM ANOTHER COUNTRIES.

10:12:58 HE WORKS OUT OF AVENTURA.

10:13:00 HE DIDN'T COME TO THE CLOSING.

10:13:01 HE WAS ON THE PHONE SAYING SIGN THIS.

10:13:03 THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD SIGN.

10:13:04 EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO SIGN.

10:13:07 IT WAS SAYING IF I MOVE FROM MY CONDO AND SELL IT AT

10:13:11 THIS PRICE TODAY, NOT ONLY AM I GOING TO BE A RENTER, I

10:13:14 DON'T HAVE ANY LEGAL RIGHTS BUT I HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT

10:13:17 CONDO AND ALL REPAIRS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT AS AN OWN

10:13:19 WE ARE NO PRIVILEGE.

10:13:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:13:21 >> THEY SCAMMED ME.

10:13:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

10:13:23 >> NOW IN TAMPA --

10:13:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO MA'AM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:13:28 >> I AM SORRY, I DIDN'T GET TO THE TAMPA STORY.

10:13:31 I WAS ASKED TO SIGN A LEASE YESTERDAY SAYING I HAVE TO

10:13:35 GIVE THEM 60-DAY NOTICE TO MOVE OR I HAVE TO PAY $1800

10:13:41 THIS YEAR AND GIVING NO NOTICE, BY MAY 1 WITH -- WITH

10:13:45 NO NOTICE MY SOCIAL SECURITY DOESN'T EVEN COVER IT AND

10:13:48 IT SHOULD BE CONDEMNED, 288 SQUARE FEET WITH RODENTS,

10:13:52 RATS, NO DISABILITY ACCESS, MY WHEELCHAIR WON'T GO ON

10:13:53 THE SIDEWALK.

10:13:56 I FALL OUT AND THIS IS WHY I'M HERE TODAY.

10:13:59 CAME FROM BROWARD COUNTY TO GET A BETTER HOUSE AND THIS

10:14:00 IS WHERE I AM IN TAMPA HOUSING.

10:14:03 I AM ON A WAIT LIST AND I CAN'T GET AN APPOINTMENT TO

10:14:04 MEET WITH THEM.

10:14:04 I NEED HELP.

10:14:07 I DON'T WANT TO BE HOMELESS MAY 1.

10:14:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:14:12 >> I GET CONFUSED AND RATTLED WHEN I GET EXCITED.

10:14:13 EXCUSE ME FOR GOING ON.

10:14:15 YOU CAN BACK ME UP.

10:14:18 I AM OUT OF HERE.

10:14:20 I FELT LAST FRIDAY IN FRONT OF SOCIAL SECURITY.

10:14:25 AND I'M PRETTY INJURED.

10:14:28 BUT I GOT HOME.

10:14:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:14:33 >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SAY -- OKAY.

10:14:34 YOU ARE GOING -- OKAY.

10:14:39 I WAS GOING TO HAVE MY OFFICE -- BUT IF MR. BENNETT.

10:14:43 THERE YOU GO, THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT.

10:14:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:14:52 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

10:14:53 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:14:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATES YOUR NAME.

10:15:01 >> IRMA PHILISTINE, AND I LIVE AT 812 WEST COLUMBUS

10:15:02 DRIVE.

10:15:06 MY ZIP CODE 33602.

10:15:10 I HAVE BEEN COMING HERE IN THE PAST.

10:15:15 WHAT HAPPENED IN 2004 OUT OF NOWHERE, RIGHT IN THE

10:15:20 MIDDLE OF THE STREET, IT WAS ON THE WEEKEND -- NOT

10:15:25 WEEKDAYS, SOMEONE -- WELL, I UNDERSTAND DEPARTMENT OF

10:15:31 TRANSPORTATION OR THE CITY, THEY HAD ME GOING AROUND

10:15:35 SINCE 2007, THAT'S WHEN I BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION

10:15:39 THAT MY HOUSE WAS VIBRATING FROM WHATEVER TYPE OF WORK

10:15:41 THEY HAD DONE ON THE STREET.

10:15:48 MEANWHILE, THEY SEND ME ALL OVER -- I THINK BASICALLY I

10:15:51 KNOW BY NOW EVERYBODY IN THE CITY.

10:15:57 FROM MAYOR PAM -- MY APOLOGY.

10:16:00 TRYING TO PRONOUNS.

10:16:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IORIO.

10:16:08 >> AND FROM HER ALL THE WAY TO -- NOT THE NEW MAYOR --

10:16:10 THE ONE PAST.

10:16:18 ANYWAY, NOBODY EVER REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO THE PROBLEM

10:16:20 I HAVE BEEN HAVING.

10:16:24 IT IS THE STRUCTURE OF -- OF THE HOUSE.

10:16:25 BECAUSE IT VIBRATES.

10:16:28 IT HAS BEEN VIBRATING.

10:16:31 MY CHILDREN MOVED 15 YEARS AGO.

10:16:34 MY MOTHER WANTS TO LIVE WITH ME -- ACTUALLY I HAVE BEEN

10:16:37 LIVING MORE THAN 15 YEARS AT THE HOUSE BY MYSELF

10:16:40 BECAUSE I WAS AFRAID HAVING SOMEONE ELSE LIVING IN THE

10:16:44 HOUSE WITH ME.

10:16:47 AND ANYWAY, I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS.

10:16:50 I CAN'T AFFORD GOING AND GET ANOTHER PLACE.

10:16:52 PRICES ARE SO EXPENSIVE.

10:16:55 THE THING IS WHAT I NOTICE -- WELL, A LOT OF CITIES,

10:16:58 ESPECIALLY TAMPA, THAT'S WHERE I HAVE BEEN LIVING, THE

10:17:02 STRUCTURE, THE FOUNDATION, YOU KNOW ARE NOT PAYING

10:17:03 ATTENTION TO THAT.

10:17:05 THAT IS WHERE WE ARE.

10:17:07 THAT IS WHERE THE CARS DRIVE.

10:17:10 THAT IS WHERE IT IS SUSTAINED -- EVERYTHING ON THE

10:17:11 SURFACE.

10:17:15 YOU HAVE PEOPLE DOING A LITTLE LOUSY WORK OUT THERE.

10:17:20 AND THOSE THAT ARE -- THEY GIVE FAVOR CONTRACT TO DO

10:17:24 THE WORK, I AM WONDERING WHO GOES BEHIND THEM AND SEE

10:17:26 IF THE WORK WAS DONE PROPERLY.

10:17:29 AND IT IS NOT JUST ME.

10:17:35 FROM THE BRIDGE ALL THE WAY TO BOULEVARD, IT IS ALL

10:17:36 SCREWED UP.

10:17:36 I DON'T KNOW.

10:17:40 I MEAN SOMETIMES I DON'T SLEEP IN MY HOUSE -- I MEAN,

10:17:44 INSIDE OF MY HOUSE BECAUSE SEEMS LIKE SOME -- FROM THE

10:17:46 BEGINNING -- IT IS A LONG STORY.

10:17:50 ANYWAY, I WANT SOMEBODY TO TELL ME WHAT I MUST DO

10:17:54 BECAUSE THAT IS MY INTENTION TO REMAIN WHERE I AM.

10:17:58 I DON'T HAVE THE KIND OF MONEY TO MOVE ON.

10:18:00 AND PLAN TO GO FROM THE CITY TO THE DEPARTMENT OF

10:18:03 TRANSPORTATION.

10:18:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:18:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I REMEMBER YOU TALKED TO ME LAST WEEK

10:18:08 ABOUT THAT.

10:18:11 WE SENT THAT OVER TO THE COUNTY, BECAUSE OUR CITY FOLKS

10:18:14 SAID THAT THE COUNTY WORKED ON THAT ROAD OUT THERE.

10:18:16 >> NO, NOT A PROBLEM WITH THE COUNTY.

10:18:19 A PROBLEM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE IT IS UNDERNEATH

10:18:23 WHERE THE WATER AND ALL THE SEWER AND ALL THE THINGS.

10:18:25 WHO TAKES CARE OF THAT.

10:18:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIGHT.

10:18:29 BUT WHAT I AM SAYING, MAN, WHENEVER -- WHATEVER WORK

10:18:33 THEY DID THEY UNSETTLED THE UNDERNEATH GROUND.

10:18:37 IF IT IS UNSETTLED MAYBE THEY CAN GO OUT AND SEE WHAT

10:18:37 HAPPENED.

10:18:39 >> THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, SIR.

10:18:40 EXCUSE ME.

10:18:43 I AM JUST TIRED OF THE THIS AND THAT AND BLAMING OTHER

10:18:43 PERSON.

10:18:48 NOBODY HAS TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY.

10:18:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND I AGREE.

10:18:52 THAT IS WHY WHEN MY OFFICE FOUND OUT WHO DID THE WORK

10:18:56 OUT THERE, WE SENT IT OVER HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

10:18:57 BECAUSE THEY DID THE WORK.

10:19:01 SO THEY ARE THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY TO GO OUT AND SEE

10:19:02 WHAT IS DONE.

10:19:05 >> LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING WITHOUT CUTTING YOU OFF, I

10:19:05 APOLOGIZE.

10:19:08 I WENT TO THE COUNTY, WHAT THE COUNTY DID, I SPOKE TO

10:19:09 SEVERAL PEOPLE.

10:19:12 AND I HAVE PICTURES FROM WAY BACK.

10:19:14 THEY DELETE THE PICTURES.

10:19:16 THEY DELETE -- SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING TO IT.

10:19:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY

10:19:22 AGAIN MISS MYERS' OFFICE AND HOPEFULLY TO GET SOME KIND

10:19:23 OF RESOLUTION FOR YOU.

10:19:24 >> THERE HAS TO BE.

10:19:25 BECAUSE I AM NOT MOVING.

10:19:28 I CAN'T AFFORD THE HOUSES OUT THERE.

10:19:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND.

10:19:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:19:38 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I WILL BE BACK TOO.

10:19:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

10:19:42 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

10:19:44 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

10:19:46 >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.

10:19:49 ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO KNOW, YOU CAN'T STOP

10:19:50 CAPITALISM.

10:19:54 SO RENT INCREASES, RENT DECREASES, INFLATION.

10:19:57 YOU CAN'T STOP CAPITALISM.

10:20:01 PUTIN RIGHT NOW IN UKRAINE TRYING TO STOP CAPITALISM.

10:20:05 AND PEOPLE SCREAMING INFLATION AND HIGH PRICES, THEY

10:20:08 ARE SCREAMING THEY ARE AGAINST RUSSIA IN A CERTAIN WAY.

10:20:12 SO ONLY SOCIALISM CAN STOP CAPITALISM.

10:20:13 THE BIG PICTURE.

10:20:16 THE GENTLEMAN HERE NAMED IT BEST.

10:20:19 PEOPLE ARE PIMPING SITUATION AND PIMPING BLACK PEOPLE.

10:20:22 PRISONER RIGHTS, RESTORATION, RENT INCREASES, WHAT THEY

10:20:26 ARE DOING FOR AFRICAN AND WHAT NOT, A PIMP GAME.

10:20:28 NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.

10:20:32 WE AFRICAN PEOPLE ON THIS SOIL BEEN 400 YEARS

10:20:32 OPPRESSED.

10:20:36 400 YEARS OPPRESSED AND PIMPING US.

10:20:38 PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY FOR DRIVER'S LICENSES.

10:20:41 PAID FOR BEING A RETURN CITIZEN AND ALL THE STUPIDNESS.

10:20:47 THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, 98% OF AFRICAN PEOPLE

10:20:50 SHOULDN'T GO IN THE FIRST PLACE, IN THE FIRST PLACE

10:20:52 THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN TO PRISON.

10:20:54 UNLESS YOU ARE TALKING OF REPARATIONS, YOU ARE JUST

10:20:55 PIMPING THE SITUATION.

10:20:57 AND THIS CITY OWES US REPARATIONS.

10:21:01 SO AS A MATTER OF FACT, FROM TODAY, APRIL -- THURSDAY,

10:21:07 APRIL 21, 2022, MENTESNOT IS CALLING THE CITY OF TAMPA,

10:21:09 THIS CITY COUNCIL TO IMMEDIATELY APPOINT A COMMITTEE TO

10:21:12 STUDY THE EXACT AMOUNT OF REPARATIONS THAT THIS CITY OF

10:21:17 TAMPA OWE AFRICAN PEOPLE BASED ON THE CITY BUDGET SINCE

10:21:19 1885.

10:21:22 OR SINCE THE CITY OF TAMPA WAS FORMED TO THE CURRENT

10:21:26 DATE OF THURSDAY, APRIL 21, 2022.

10:21:29 STOP PLAYING GAMES WITH AFRICAN PEOPLE.

10:21:31 THE SAME WAY THE MAYOR CAN PUT A PROGRAM INTO PLACE TO

10:21:36 INVESTIGATE THE ACTIONS OR PERSONAL BEHAVIOR PATTERNS

10:21:41 OF ORLANDO GUDES IS THE SAME WAY WE AFRICAN PEOPLE IN

10:21:44 THE CITY OF TAMPA AND MAYOR AND THIS CITY COUNCIL TO

10:21:49 IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM TO LOOK AT THE REPARATION SO WE AS

10:21:52 AFRICAN-AMERICANS KNOW HOW MUCH THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR

10:21:55 DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES SINCE 1885.

10:22:00 USING THE DIVERSIONARY TACTICS OF INVESTIGATING BLACK

10:22:04 POLITICIAN, GIVING PETTY COOKING CONTRACTS TO BLACK

10:22:10 ENTREPRENEURS, APPOINTING TOKEN, TOKEN HEAD NEGROS TO

10:22:13 MANY DISPOSITIONS AND TRYING TO CARRY OUT BUSINESS AS

10:22:17 USUAL BY DENYING BLACK PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHAT

10:22:19 IS RIGHTFULLY OURS IS DONE AND OVER WITH.

10:22:23 WE ARE 26% OF TO THIS POPULATION AND WE WANT 26% OF

10:22:24 THIS CITY BUDGET.

10:22:26 PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

10:22:29 I DON'T CARE IF WE SPEND IT ON BEER.

10:22:31 WE WANT 26% OF THIS CITY BUDGET.

10:22:37 AND ALL THIS DIVERSIONARY TACTICS ABOUT WHATSOEVER IT

10:22:37 IS.

10:22:40 BLACK PEOPLE, WE HAVE BEEN GETTING OUTS OF KICKED OUT

10:22:43 OF HOMES AND MOVED AROUND FOR 100 AND SOME YEARS IN

10:22:44 THIS CITY.

10:22:45 SO ALL THAT HAVE TO STOP.

10:22:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:22:54 YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

10:22:56 >> CAPTAIN FRANK WILLIAMS.

10:23:00 LOCATED 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.

10:23:04 I HAVE BEEN COME DOWN FOR MANY YEARS AND NEVER GET ANY

10:23:04 RESULTS.

10:23:07 I GUESS BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT THE COLOR OF MY SKIN AND

10:23:09 THEY SAY, WELL, THAT IS A BLACK MAN.

10:23:12 REGARDLESS, I DON'T COME TO REPRESENT BLACK AND WHITE.

10:23:14 I COME HERE TO REPRESENT JESUS CHRIST.

10:23:18 I AM GOING TO READ SCRIPTURE WHAT GOD GAVE TO ME, IF I

10:23:22 SHOWED UP AT HEAVEN THAT THERE IS NO RAIN THAT IS

10:23:25 COMING FROM 2 CORINTHIAN 7:13-14.

10:23:28 AND THERE WILL BE NO RAIN.

10:23:32 IF I COMMAND THE LOCALS TO DIVIDE THE LAND.

10:23:37 OR IF I SENT PESTILENCE TO DESTROY THE LAND.

10:23:42 AND IF MY PEOPLE, WHICH ARE CALLED BY MY NAME SHALL

10:23:48 HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND PRAY AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED

10:23:53 WAY THEN CAN I HEAR FROM HEAVEN AND I HEAR THE LAND.

10:23:56 AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU MIGHT BE CITY COUNCIL,

10:24:02 BUT WHO IS IN CONTROL OF THAT LAND, IS GOD ALMIGHTY.

10:24:03 I KNOW Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT.

10:24:05 YOU THINK YOU ARE IN CONTROL.

10:24:08 I HAVE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

10:24:11 AND WHEN I FIRST STARTED COMING OUT HERE, YOU AIN'T HAD

10:24:14 NOTHING BUT WHITE FOLKS ON THE PLATFORM.

10:24:16 BUT NOW OFF BLACK MAN UP THERE AND THEY ARE TRYING TO

10:24:18 GET RID OF HIM.

10:24:21 BUT WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, I DON'T COME HERE TO

10:24:22 REPRESENT BLACK FOLK.

10:24:26 I COME TO REPRESENT JESUS CHRIST.

10:24:30 WHO LOVE OUR LIFE AND BLESS ME ALL OF THESE MANY YEARS.

10:24:35 YOU KNOW, I HAVE A CHURCH ON 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.

10:24:36 THE WHITE FOLKS WANT THE LAND.

10:24:39 THEY DON'T WANT THE CHURCH TO BE THERE.

10:24:42 BUT I AM STILL THERE AND I SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO STAY

10:24:44 THERE DURING THE TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN THERE.

10:24:46 BUT THEY DON'T CARE.

10:24:52 THEY WANT TO GIVE PENNIES FOR MY PROPERTY AND OVERLOOK

10:24:52 ME.

10:24:55 I GOT A PARKING LOT IN THE BACK THERE.

10:24:59 THEY DONE FENCE ALL OF THAT IN.

10:25:01 CALMED AND INVITED THEM DOWN THERE.

10:25:03 YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO?

10:25:06 THEY TOLD ME I AM STANDING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

10:25:12 THAT CHURCH WAS BUILT IN 1998.

10:25:15 AND BUILT IN 1924.

10:25:21 AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAD TO -- IN TAMPA, THEY TOOK THE

10:25:23 PLAQUE WITH THEM ONCE THEY GOT OUT OF THERE.

10:25:27 BUT I GOT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO DO

10:25:28 GOD'S BUSINESS.

10:25:31 AND WE WANT YOU TO RESPECT MANKIND.

10:25:35 DON'T JUST LOOK AT THE COLOR OF PEOPLE'S SKIN OR WE ARE

10:25:37 GOING TO DO THIS BECAUSE SOUTH FLORIDA JUST LEFT OUT OF

10:25:40 HERE OPINION DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN FOR THEM.

10:25:43 BUT YOU AIN'T GOING TO DO NOTHING FOR ME AND MY CHURCH.

10:25:47 AND NOW I AM IN TROUBLE BECAUSE I WANT YOU ALL -- TO

10:25:50 COME TO PROTECT THAT YOU WILL ACKNOWLEDGE MY CHURCH.

10:25:55 IF Y'ALL WANT ME OUT OF 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET, PAY ME

10:25:55 SOME FUNDS.

10:25:57 I WILL BE GLAD TO GET OUT OF THERE.

10:25:59 BECAUSE OF THE WAY YOU ARE TREATING ME.

10:26:04 MISTREATING NOT ONLY ME BUT MY PEOPLE.

10:26:05 AND I DON'T LIKE IT.

10:26:06 GOD DOESN'T LIKE IT EITHER.

10:26:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:26:10 >> WE GOT TO TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

10:26:14 AND WHAT THEY CALL GAY RIGHTS, HOMOSEXUAL RIGHTS,

10:26:15 PROSTITUTION RIGHTS.

10:26:17 Y'ALL NEED TO GIVE ME MY RIGHTS.

10:26:23 AND THAT -- AND -- GIVE ME SOME RIGHTS.

10:26:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:26:26 >> I TRY TO DO EVERYTHING THAT IS RIGHT BEFORE THE

10:26:29 PEOPLE AND TRY TO RESPECT GOD WITH EVERYTHING THAT I

10:26:32 GOT IN ME.

10:26:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:26:37 >> I WANT Y'ALL -- WANT SOMEBODY TO COME DOWN TO 1112

10:26:40 EAST SCOTT STREET AND SEE WHERE THEY FENCED ME IN.

10:26:42 I CAN'T EVEN GET TO THE BACK OF MY CHURCH.

10:26:44 THAT IS RIDICULOUS.

10:26:47 AND THEY ARE NOT -- MAKES NO SENSE.

10:26:49 NONE MUCH YOU ALL.

10:26:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO COME DOWN THERE.

10:26:53 >> WHY DON'T YOU COME DOWN THERE.

10:26:55 LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU CAN COME DOWN THERE.

10:26:57 AND I WANT YOU TO COME DOWN THERE.

10:27:00 AND I WILL SHOW YOU THE INJUSTICE THAT GOES ON AROUND

10:27:01 MY CHURCH.

10:27:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LISA, IF YOU ARE WATCHING, CAN YOU

10:27:06 SPEAK WITH THE GENTLEMAN AND GET HIS CONTACT

10:27:06 INFORMATION.

10:27:09 I KNOW WHERE THE CHURCH IS AT.

10:27:11 >> WHO I DO NEED TO SPEAK TO?

10:27:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM SORRY.

10:27:16 >> WHO I DO NEED TO SPEAK TO?

10:27:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY AIDE WILL COME OUT AND GET YOUR

10:27:22 PHONE NUMBER.

10:27:23 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:27:24 HERE SHE IS.

10:27:25 YES, MA'AM.

10:27:27 >> YES, GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.

10:27:34 I USED TO KNOW SCRIPTURE POINTS, BUT MY GRANDMOTHER

10:27:37 ALWAYS SAID THAT A PERSON'S NAME AT DEATH IS BETTER

10:27:39 THAN AT BIRTH.

10:27:43 SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE HONORING SISTER DEBBY THIS

10:27:44 MORNING.

10:27:47 EVEN IN SOME OF MY WORST DAYS HERE, SHE WOULD SAY IT

10:27:49 WOULD GET BETTER.

10:27:53 MY DEEPEST CONDOLENCE TO HER AND HER FAMILY.

10:27:55 SO WHAT WE ARE HEARING THIS MORNING IS, OF COURSE, THE

10:28:00 ISSUES OF THE PEOPLE ALWAYS, WHETHER IT IS BAN THE BOX.

10:28:04 MAKING SURE PEOPLE GET JUSTICE ON THE BACK END AND

10:28:06 RESTORING OF RIGHTS.

10:28:10 GIVING BOTH OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD, RENT

10:28:10 STABILIZATION.

10:28:16 THE PEOPLE ARE CALLING ON YOU TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE, TO DO

10:28:19 SOME THINGS THAT IS OUT OF THE ORDINARY.

10:28:27 THAT EVEN IF WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL, A CITY GOVERNMENT

10:28:29 THAT IS USED TO WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS.

10:28:33 YOU YOURSELVES AS FAMILY PEOPLE MEETING YOUR

10:28:36 CONSTITUENTS IN THE GROCERY STORE, YOU HEAR IT ALL THE

10:28:36 TIME.

10:28:39 LET US TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT HERE IN THIS CITY.

10:28:45 I KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES OF ACCESSORY DWELLING

10:28:45 UNITS.

10:28:47 THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN TRY.

10:28:50 MAYBE YOU DON'T LIKE THAT STRUCTURE OF A CONTAINER,

10:28:52 LET'S TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

10:28:54 I BELIEVE THAT TAMPA CAN BE THE MODEL.

10:28:59 I AM HOPING THAT WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS AGENDA

10:29:02 TODAY, THAT WE JUST DON'T SIGN OFF WITH PEOPLE THAT --

10:29:07 THAT THEY -- THAT WILL BE ABLE TO PRODUCE A RESULT THAT

10:29:09 WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN IN THE PAST.

10:29:13 VERY BLUNTLY, SOME APPRENTICE PROGRAM HAVE NOT WORKED.

10:29:14 THEY HAVE NOT WORKED.

10:29:16 THEY LOOK GOOD ON PAPER.

10:29:19 THEIR NUMBERS MIGHT ADD UP, BUT WHEN WE ARE IN OUR

10:29:21 COMMUNITY ASKING WHY PEOPLE ARE NOT EMPLOYED, IT IS

10:29:24 BECAUSE IT DON'T HAVE FULL VISION.

10:29:30 SO I HOPE YOU STAY LASER FOCUSED WHETHER THE ROME YARD,

10:29:32 HANNA STREET PROJECT, THE WATER.

10:29:33 ALL OF IT.

10:29:36 MAKE SURE THAT OUR PARTNERS ARE DOING THE RIGHT BY THE

10:29:36 PEOPLE.

10:29:39 AND IF THEY ARE DOING RIGHT BY THE PEOPLE, WE WILL BE

10:29:39 ALL RIGHT.

10:29:40 THANK YOU.

10:29:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

10:29:46 MR. RALPH -- NO?

10:29:49 YES, SIR.

10:29:50 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:29:51 PETER RALPH.

10:29:54 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.

10:29:56 IT IS VERY FITTING AFTER A LOT OF THIS PUBLIC COMMENT

10:30:00 OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS THAT TODAY AT 1:30,

10:30:03 YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO APPROVE THE ROME YARD PROJECT.

10:30:06 AS OTHERS HAVE SAID THIS MORNING, THE PROJECT ISN'T

10:30:09 JUST ABOUT HOUSING, IT IS ABOUT A HOLISTIC COMMUNITY

10:30:11 AND CREATING SERVICES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL

10:30:15 BUSINESSES TO CREATE A TRUE LIVE-WORK-PLAY ENVIRONMENT

10:30:19 THAT IS NOT ONLY WITHIN OUR URBAN CORE OR OUR BROGUE

10:30:23 URBAN CORE BUT CONNECTED TO THE RIVERWALK AND OTHER

10:30:27 BIKE AND WALK CONNECTIONS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAYBE NOT

10:30:30 EVEN NEED TO HAVE A CAR AND USE OTHER SERVICES TO GET

10:30:34 TO AND FROM WHERE THEY NEED AND TO WALK WITHIN THEIR

10:30:35 COMMUNITY TO GET FOOD.

10:30:36 TO GET A MEAL.

10:30:40 TO HAVE A PLACE OF BUSINESS, ETC.

10:30:42 ONE THING YOU SHOULD ALSO NOTE, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT

10:30:45 TEAM OF RELATED URBAN AND TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY ALONG

10:30:48 WITH THE CDC OF TAMPA BAY -- OF TAMPA.

10:30:52 AND THE WEST TAMPA CDC HAVE COMMITTED TO BUILDING TO

10:30:56 THE MOST ROBUST, GREEN BUILDING STANDARDS.

10:31:01 THE USGBC'S LEAD SILVER STANDARD FOR ALL OF THEIR

10:31:06 BUILDINGS AND ALSO COMMITTED TO LOOK AT THE SITE DESIGN

10:31:09 TO COMMIT THESE WITH HEALTHY DESIGN PRINCIPLES, SIMILAR

10:31:11 TO THE PRINCIPLES AT WATER STREET.

10:31:13 THE WELL BUILDING STANDARDS.

10:31:15 THE WELL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

10:31:18 AND LEAD FOR NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT AND ETC.

10:31:22 THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITIES HERE TODAY TO

10:31:23 APPROVE AT 1:30.

10:31:28 954 AFFORDABLE AND MIXED INCOME UNITS AND I ENCOURAGE

10:31:30 YOU ALL TO PLEASE SUPPORT IT.

10:31:34 AND ALSO KNOW THEY ARE DOING GREAT WORK ON THE WEST

10:31:34 RIVER.

10:31:36 AND PETER AND ALBERT AND THEIR TEAM AS WELL AS THE

10:31:39 HOUSING AUTHORITY ARE GREAT PARTNERS.

10:31:43 THEY HAVE OPEN EARS AND THEY ARE GOOD, TRUE PARTNERS TO

10:31:46 OUR COMMUNITY AND I HOPE YOU SUPPORT WHAT THEY ARE

10:31:46 DOING TODAY.

10:31:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MANY DID YOU SAY IN AFFORDABLE

10:31:49 UNITS?

10:31:54 >> 80% OF THE 954, I THINK, IS THAT RIGHT?

10:31:55 YEAH.

10:31:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

10:31:59 OKAY, THERE IS DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

10:32:02 >>BILL CARLSON: SOME OF THEM ARE LIKE 140% AMI.

10:32:05 SO NOT ACTUALLY --

10:32:07 >> I AM SURE THIS AFTERNOON THEY WILL BE HAPPY TO GET

10:32:08 INTO THE DETAILS.

10:32:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:32:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.

10:32:16 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

10:32:20 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO ADDRESS YOU.

10:32:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR NAME.

10:32:23 >> AMAN BRADFORD.

10:32:25 I AM MARINE CORPS VETERAN.

10:32:28 STUDENT AT USF.

10:32:36 I -- I DIDN'T HAVE -- I HEARD ABOUT THIS MEETING ABOUT

10:32:38 THE RUNAWAY RENT CRISIS.

10:32:41 IT FEELS LIKE FOR ME, I HAD A LOT OF DIFFICULTY USING

10:32:45 MY VA HOME LOAN, BECAUSE I AM COMPETING AGAINST A LOT

10:32:49 OF PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST PUTTING DOWN -- MONEY DOWN.

10:32:55 AND IT LEAVES ME WITHOUT AN OPTION TO REALLY -- TO GET

10:33:02 A DECENT HOME FOR MYSELF AND MY FAMILY.

10:33:03 NOW I HAVE A FRIEND.

10:33:06 SHE IS ALSO A FORMER MARINE.

10:33:07 SHE IS A SINGLE MOTHER.

10:33:12 AND SHE IS ACTUALLY DEALING WITH A MONTH-TO-MONTH

10:33:13 BASIS.

10:33:20 AND THEY ARE INCREASING HER MONTHLY RATE $200.

10:33:21 EACH MONTH.

10:33:26 SO THEY ARE BASICALLY TRYING TO FORCE HER OUT.

10:33:29 AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IS RIGHT,

10:33:32 ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY -- THERE ARE A LOT OF

10:33:35 NEW MONEY COMING INTO THE STATE, IN MY OPINION.

10:33:37 AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF

10:33:38 THAT.

10:33:43 AND I AM AFRAID THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF

10:33:44 HOMELESS PEOPLE.

10:33:46 AND I JUST -- I REALLY HOPE THAT THERE IS SOMETHING

10:33:53 THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO WITH THIS RENT REGULATION OR

10:33:56 SOMETHING TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM -- FROM HAVING TO GO

10:33:57 THROUGH THAT.

10:34:00 THAT IS IT.

10:34:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:34:03 NEXT SPEAKER.

10:34:07 YES, SIR.

10:34:08 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:34:14 JULIUS DAVIS, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF VOLT AIR.

10:34:18 I WANT TO SUPPORT THE ROME YARD.

10:34:22 URBAN IS COMMITTED TO MINORITY FIRMS SUCH AS MINE.

10:34:26 WE ARE THE DESIGN SIDE OF THE PROJECT.

10:34:30 IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US AMONGST OTHER MINORITY

10:34:32 FIRMS.

10:34:35 THEY HAVE REALLY COMMITTED IN THE PAST.

10:34:39 AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, REALLY ARE COMMITTING NOW.

10:34:44 I AM A NATIVE FOURTH-GENERATION NATIVE OF TAMPA.

10:34:48 IT IS GREAT TO SEE TAMPA EXPAND THE WAY IT IS EXPANDING

10:34:52 AND IT FEELS GREAT TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING TO HELP

10:34:56 TAMPA GROW AND TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THOSE THAT ARE

10:35:01 CHALLENGING LIVING IN THE GROWING CITY THE WAY IT IS

10:35:03 NOW WITH THE RATES.

10:35:08 BUT I DO WANT TO VOICE MY OPINIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, MY

10:35:13 COMPANY, AMONGST MANY WOMEN AND MINORITY-OWNED FIRM ARE

10:35:14 PART OF THIS ESTABLISHMENT.

10:35:16 IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HELP US GROW.

10:35:22 TO HIRE LOCAL TALENT, AS WELL AS INTERNSHIPS FOR USF

10:35:24 AND HCC.

10:35:26 SO THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT.

10:35:27 THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.

10:35:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:35:31 NEXT SPEAKER.

10:35:34 YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

10:35:40 >> GOOD MORNING, ERNIE DUBOIS, CEO OF DUCON LCC AND DUCON

10:35:43 PLUMBING LCC.

10:35:46 BOTH TAMPA MINORITY CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AND PLUMBING

10:35:47 COMPANY.

10:35:52 I'M HERE TO VOICE MY SUPPORT WITH SOMEONE WHO IS BORN

10:35:53 IN TAMPA.

10:35:55 I HAVE NOT LIVED IN TAMPA MOST OF MY LIFE BUT BORN

10:35:56 HERE.

10:36:01 PARENTS OF UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND USF TO SEE WHAT ROME

10:36:04 YARD, THE OPPORTUNITIES OF THIS PROJECT OFFERS TO SEE

10:36:09 WHAT THE TEAM THAT RELAYED IT HAS BROUGHT TOGETHER.

10:36:12 MY FIRM, WE TRAVEL ACROSS THE STATE, PARTNERING WITH

10:36:15 LARGER CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FIRMS.

10:36:17 WE TRAVEL ACROSS THE STATE.

10:36:19 PARTICIPATING IN SUCH PROJECTS.

10:36:23 THE ROME YARD TEAM THAT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER IS

10:36:24 UNPRECEDENTED.

10:36:28 YOU CAN GO TO THE AIRPORT AND LOOK WHO IS WORKING OUT

10:36:28 THERE.

10:36:32 GO TO PREVIOUS CITY PROJECTS, COUNTY PROJECTS, OTHER

10:36:33 MUNICIPALITIES.

10:36:37 IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE ACCUMULATED,

10:36:41 PARTICULARLY TAMPA-BASED BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES FOR

10:36:44 THIS PROJECT BASED ON THE LOCATION, THERE IS NO PROJECT

10:36:48 THAT HAS DONE SUCH IN THE RECENT HISTORY AT LEAST.

10:36:51 AND I DOUBT IN ANY HISTORIES AS FAR AS THE BLACK

10:36:53 BUSINESS INVOLVEMENT, PARTICULARLY FOR COMMUNITY THAT

10:36:55 IT IS IN.

10:36:58 THE PARTNERS THAT ARE ASSEMBLED NOT ONLY HAVE A PLAN,

10:37:03 BUT WE HAVE PROVEN HISTORY OF EXECUTING INCLUSION FOR

10:37:07 LOCAL, WOMEN-OWNED AND MINORITY-OWNED BUSINESSES NOT

10:37:10 ONLY IN THIS AREA REGION, BUT ACROSS THE STATE.

10:37:14 SO I'M HERE TO SPEAK OBVIOUSLY IN SUPPORT OF -- IN

10:37:16 SUPPORT OF THE ROME YARD PROJECT.

10:37:19 I'M HERE TO PUT MY NAME AND MY BUSINESS ON THE LINE FOR

10:37:24 THE COMMITMENT OF 40% LOCAL -- LOCAL AND

10:37:26 MINORITY-OWNED.

10:37:30 25% BLACK-OWNED BUSINESS CONTRACT AND COMMITMENT.

10:37:33 I AM THAT CONFIDENT NOTICE PLAN THAT WE HAVE.

10:37:34 THAT CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE THE BEST PLAN.

10:37:37 AND I AM THAT CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE THE PEOPLE AT THE

10:37:40 TABLE, THE RELATED RESOURCES, THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES,

10:37:43 THE HUMAN CAPITAL TO EXECUTE THE PLAN THAT WAS

10:37:45 SUBMITTED AND COMMITTED TO.

10:37:48 I AM A PROUD MEMBER OF THE TEAM.

10:37:50 I COULD GO INTO SPEAKING THE OPPORTUNITY IT PROVIDES

10:37:55 FOR MY BUSINESS, THE SELFISH INTENT BECAUSE NO OTHER

10:37:58 DEVELOPER HAS GIVEN US -- TO DATE, HAS GIVEN US THE

10:37:59 OPPORTUNITY.

10:38:02 USUALLY WE HAVE TO COME IN UNDER A LARGER MAJORITY

10:38:07 COMPANY, WHETHER IT IS A SUB OR COMMAND -- OR OTHER

10:38:09 FIRMS WE PARTNER WITH.

10:38:12 RELATED CAME TO US AND GAVE US A DIRECT OPPORTUNITY AS

10:38:14 A BLACK-OWNED LOCAL BUSINESS TO BE A PRIME GENERAL

10:38:18 CONTRACTOR ON A MULTI, MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.

10:38:21 I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD HAVE DONE THAT IN

10:38:23 THIS REGION OR PROBABLY AROUND THE STATE.

10:38:24 SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.

10:38:25 THANK YOU.

10:38:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:38:28 [APPLAUSE]

10:38:37 JOE ROBINSON.

10:38:44 >> JOE ROBINSON, RESIDENT OF WEST TAMPA SINCE 1962.

10:38:45 DURING SEGREGATION.

10:38:49 VICE-CHAIR OF THE WEST TAMPA CAC, VICE-CHAIR OF THE

10:38:53 WEST TAMPA CDC, SECOND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE NAACP,

10:38:57 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHAIR OF THE NAACP.

10:39:01 THE WEST TAMPA CRA-CAC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN INCORN RATED

10:39:07 IN A REVISED REVISION OF THESE TWO AGREEMENTS TODAY.

10:39:10 HISTORY IS BEING MADE, MR. GUDES.

10:39:12 HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN TALKING OF A COMMUNITY BENEFIT

10:39:13 AGREEMENT.

10:39:16 HOW LONG HAVE YOU AND ME FIGHTING FOR IT, MAN.

10:39:17 IT IS AT THE TABLE.

10:39:18 IT IS HERE.

10:39:21 MINORITY CONTRACTS ARE BEING UTILIZED.

10:39:22 IT IS HEAR.

10:39:24 WE HAVE BEEN -- IT IS HERE.

10:39:26 60 YEARS TO GET THIS DEVELOPMENT DRIVEN BY THE

10:39:29 COMMUNITY, SPOKEN BY THE COMMUNITY, THE WEST SIDE OF

10:39:30 THE RIVER IS SPEAKING.

10:39:31 WE WANT THIS.

10:39:31 WE NEED THIS.

10:39:35 IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF YOU VOTE ON IT.

10:39:38 YOU CAN DEBATE IT, BUT IT IS HERE.

10:39:40 ONE OTHER THING, SIDEBAR ACTION.

10:39:43 FIRST OF ALL, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE PERMIT FOR

10:39:45 SPECIAL EVENTS ON MAIN STREET COMING UP.

10:39:46 ITEM 14.

10:39:50 AND WE NEED TO HAVE THIS APPOINTMENT FOR THIS MINORITY

10:39:55 BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT COMPLIANCE OFFICER.

10:39:59 MISS BONNIE EHLER, ITEM 18.

10:40:00 BACK TO ROME YARD.

10:40:03 LISTEN, MAN, I TOOK -- JUST LIKE YOU CARLSON, JUST LIKE

10:40:06 YOU GUDES WITH THE TAMPA BAY TIMES, SAYING I GOT

10:40:10 KICKBACKS WHICH IS NONSENSE!

10:40:18 IT IS CALLED TORTIOUS INTERFERENCE WITH THE CONTRACT.

10:40:20 KEEP MESSING WITH IT, TIMES.

10:40:23 I'M HERE TO SAY THIS, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, WEST

10:40:24 TAMPA IS MOVING FORWARD.

10:40:26 PLEASE DON'T STOP US.

10:40:28 DON'T PUT ROAD BLOCKS IN THE WAY.

10:40:30 WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY.

10:40:33 I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.

10:40:35 IT IS FINALLY IN FRONTS OF YOU.

10:40:37 FINALLY FOR YOU TO SEE.

10:40:39 I HAVE GIVEN ALL OF MY LIFE AND TIME ON THIS.

10:40:42 TOOK THE HEAT FROM EVERYBODY INCLUDING NAACP, THE

10:40:44 PLAYER HATESERS AND EVERYBODY.

10:40:46 BUT I'M HERE TODAY TO SAY THAT I AM STANDING UP FOR

10:40:47 WHAT IS RIGHT.

10:40:51 I AM SPEAKING OUT FOR WHAT OUR COMMUNITY, MY COMMUNITY,

10:40:55 WHERE I HAVE BEEN ALL MY LIFE THE SCALIONE HOUSE.

10:40:58 CHARLIE, YOU KNOW HOW IT IS IN WEST TAMPA.

10:41:00 DON'T BE LAUGHING.

10:41:02 >> I AM NOT LAUGHING, I AM ENJOYING.

10:41:05 >> MY LAST 30 SECONDS, I ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT THIS.

10:41:07 CULTURAL ARTS CENTER.

10:41:09 WORK FORCE CENTER.

10:41:10 GIVING THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE WANT.

10:41:13 WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, MAN.

10:41:19 I SPENT A LOT OF MY TIME, FREE, F-R-E-E, FREE,

10:41:21 PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, FREE.

10:41:24 WITH THAT I WILL SAY, Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME.

10:41:26 AND I HAVE A MEETING AT 1:30 AND I WILL BE HERE UNLESS

10:41:32 THEY CANCEL IT AND GO OUT AND SMOKE THIS -- CHARLIE, A CUBAN

10:41:32 CIGAR.

10:41:36 MY DAUGHTER BROUGHT IT BACK FROM NASSAU, BAHAMAS, REAL

10:41:41 CUBAN, ROMEO AND JULIET, NUMBER TWO, BROTHER.

10:41:43 THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.

10:41:46 GIVE US A CHANCE AND GIVE US FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION

10:41:50 FOR THE TWO RESOLUTIONS FOR THE AGREEMENT AND COMMUNITY

10:41:51 BENEFIT AGREEMENT.

10:41:56 NEVER BEEN ONE -- ST. PETE AIN'T GOT ONE, MR. GUDES.

10:41:57 MAKE HISTORY.

10:41:58 [APPLAUSE]

10:42:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:42:04 WHO WANTS TO FOLLOW JOE ROBINSON.

10:42:04 [LAUGHTER]

10:42:08 ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE?

10:42:11 IF NOT, GO TO THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS.

10:42:12 WE HAVE A FEW ONLINE.

10:42:13 SEEING NONE.

10:42:17 FIRST SPEAKER IS MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH.

10:42:19 >>CLERK: GOOD MORNING, MICHAEL, IF YOU WERE ON THE

10:42:22 LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

10:42:23 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:42:25 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

10:42:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

10:42:30 >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.

10:42:34 I AM SO HAPPY THAT WE ARE HERE TO THIS PARTICULAR

10:42:34 POINT.

10:42:37 I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TELL YOU HOW WE GOT HERE

10:42:39 AND WHY WE GOT HERE.

10:42:46 FIRST, WITH NO MONEY, THE WEST TAMPA CDC HAS PUT

10:42:50 TOGETHER THAT NOT ONLY INCLUDES FOLKS GETTING BUSINESS

10:42:53 -- TO START THEIR OWN BUSINESSES BUT ALSO WE ARE GOING

10:42:58 TO TURN THIS INTO A $80 MILLION IMPACT IN WEST TAMPA.

10:43:01 JUST FROM THE WEST TAMPA SIDE OF THE TABLE.

10:43:02 WHY DO WE DO THIS?

10:43:06 WE DO THIS BECAUSE IN THE POOR COMMUNITY, SO MANY TIMES

10:43:08 THEY ARE OVERLOOKED.

10:43:14 THEY SEE BUILDINGS COMING UP THAT THEY KNOW WILL BE OUT

10:43:14 OF HERE.

10:43:17 MOTHERS I HAVE SPOKEN TO ARE SO AFRAID.

10:43:19 WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE JOBS.

10:43:24 AND THEY ARE SO AFRAID.

10:43:26 TO THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY.

10:43:30 LET ME TALK OF THE GOOD THING OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE

10:43:31 ROME YARD PROJECT.

10:43:37 WEST TAMPA CAC -- GENTRIFICATION.

10:43:39 INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY.

10:43:45 INCREASE GENERATIONAL WEALTH BY BUILDING A BLACK WALL

10:43:47 STREET IN AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE

10:43:52 ACTUALLY OWN BUSINESSES AND CREATES JOBS AND TO THE

10:43:56 CITY AND INCREASE SALES TAXES.

10:44:00 120 NEW RESIDENT JOBS WILL BE CREATED.

10:44:04 120 NEW JOBS WILL BE CREATED.

10:44:09 WITH AN IMPACT OF OVER $8 MILLION IN TERMS OF THE

10:44:11 PROJECT THAT WE BRING TO THE TABLE.

10:44:15 WE PLAN TO ADJUST THE LOW-INCOME, THOSE WITH CRIMINAL

10:44:22 RECORDS, THOSE WHO HAVE RISK, SENIORS AND THOSE WITH NO

10:44:24 SUPPLEMENTAL INCOME.

10:44:25 IT IS TIME FOR WEST TAMPA.

10:44:28 SO MANY TIMES WE SEE DEVELOPMENT CONNELL AND WE GET

10:44:29 GENTRIFIED.

10:44:30 THIS TIME.

10:44:33 I WANT TO THANK THE RESIDENTS OF WEST TAMPA.

10:44:37 TO BE ON THE STREETS OF WEST TAMPA, TODAY WE WIN.

10:44:38 YOU WANT A JOB.

10:44:40 AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY YOUR RENT.

10:44:43 WITH THIS BILL RIGHT HERE, THIS TIME WE WIN.

10:44:47 I AM SORRY I AM SO PASSIONATE ABOUT IT LIKE JOE

10:44:48 ROBINSON.

10:44:50 WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR SO LONG.

10:44:52 THIS TIME IS THE TIME FOR WEST TAMPA.

10:44:54 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

10:44:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

10:44:58 JEAN STROHMEYER.

10:45:02 >>CLERK: JEAN, IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE UNMUTE YOURSELF

10:45:04 AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:45:05 >> CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME?

10:45:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.

10:45:10 >> BEFORE I START, CAN I ASK A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.

10:45:13 ON THE BEGINNING YOU MOVE ALL THESE ITEMS FROM HERE TO

10:45:13 THERE.

10:45:16 CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO SOME OF US -- I HAVE BEEN LISTENING

10:45:18 TO IT FOR YEARS BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU DECIDE TO MOVE

10:45:22 IT FROM ONE PLACE -- CONSENT AND STAFF --

10:45:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE REASON WE DO THAT IS BECAUSE

10:45:26 CONSENT AGENDA GOES SO QUICKLY.

10:45:29 FOR EXAMPLE, WE MOVE ITEM 10-20.

10:45:31 AND MANY TIMES THERE IS NOT DISCUSSION.

10:45:35 SO SPECIFIC HAD COUNCILMEMBERS OR ANYBODY CAN ASK THAT

10:45:37 ITEMS BE PULLED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION INSTEAD OF A

10:45:38 QUICK VOTE.

10:45:42 SO THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED GET PUT UNDER STAFF

10:45:45 REPORTS SO WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND GO INTO FURTHER

10:45:47 DETAIL BEFORE SAYING YES OR NO.

10:45:47 >> OKAY.

10:45:52 I DID HEAR COUNCILMAN -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON MENTION WHY

10:45:56 CERTAIN THINGS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SUCH A

10:45:59 PUBLIC INTEREST IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TO BEGIN WITH.

10:46:01 I DID LISTEN TO THAT.

10:46:03 I DON'T FEEL THE ANSWER IS SUFFICIENT BECAUSE I HAD AN

10:46:06 ITEM DOWN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND

10:46:09 I SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED THAT IT NOT EVER SHOW UP ON

10:46:11 CONSENTS AGENDA BUT IT DID ANYWAY.

10:46:15 MAYBE WE CAN FIND A WAY TO BRING THAT A LITTLE BIT

10:46:19 MORE, YOU KNOW IN FRONT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT TO

10:46:24 HAVE THINGS -- FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION AND PUBLIC

10:46:28 COMMENT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK UPON BEHALF OF SOME OF

10:46:32 THESE ITEMS THAT SHOW UP ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT

10:46:32 SHOULD BE THERE.

10:46:39 WITH THAT SAID, MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER.

10:46:43 I'M HERE -- THERE ARE A FEW AGENDA ITEMS THAT I AM

10:46:45 GOING TO TALK ABOUT.

10:46:48 PARTICULARLY HERE -- THE ROME YARD PROJECT.

10:46:52 I JUST -- AND JUST SAW IN THE TAMPA TIMES ABOUT THIS.

10:46:55 IT COULD BE JUST ANOTHER SCANDAL OR CORRUPTION WITHIN

10:46:56 OUR CITY.

10:46:59 I LEARNED THAT THE MAYOR'S NEPHEW WORKS WITH THE

10:47:00 DEVELOPER.

10:47:04 FIRST LADY WORKS FOR LOBBYING FIRM AND THE MAYOR SAID

10:47:08 THAT THE NUMBER WITH THE LOBBYIST WOULD NOT POSE ANY

10:47:11 CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN THE RELATIONSHIP, BUT IN

10:47:14 READING THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING.

10:47:19 YOU KNOW, THIS STARTED WITH EX-MAYOR BUCKHORN.

10:47:21 FROM WHAT I READ IN THE PAPER, HE CONVENIENTLY DROPPED

10:47:25 THE PROJECT JUST BEFORE IT WAS PICKED UP BY THE MAYOR.

10:47:32 IS THIS ANOTHER CASTOR-MAYOR BUCKHORN SCANDAL.

10:47:33 TOILET TO TAP.

10:47:35 SAME SCANDAL, DIFFERENT NAME.

10:47:42 THAT THIS PARCEL WAS LONG NEGLECED, AND MY POINT IS WE DON'T

10:47:46 NEED EVERY INCH UNUSED SPACE TRANSFORMED FOR FUTURE

10:47:47 GENERATIONS.

10:47:50 IT SEEMS LIKE THAT IS WHAT IS ALLOWING.

10:47:54 THE CITY SHOULD GROW NATURALLY AND NOT SUSTAINED BY

10:47:56 CORRUPTION, POWER.

10:47:58 NOBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE PEOPLE'S HOMES.

10:48:01 OUR CITY OF TAMPA AND DESTROY ITS VERY CHARACTER.

10:48:07 BUT SOME OF YOU CAN'T SEE AS BETTER YET REFUSE TO SEE

10:48:08 IT.

10:48:11 YOU DON'T VOTE ON THIS AND BE CORRUPT CONTRACTS AND

10:48:16 SUCH WILL BE KNOWN FOREVER AS THE ONES THAT DESTROYED.

10:48:19 LUKE 8:17 -- SPEAKING OF THE BIBLE, THERE IS NOTHING IN

10:48:23 SECRET THAT SHALL NOT BE MADE MANIFEST.

10:48:26 NEITHER ANYTHING THAT SHOULD NOT BE KNOWN AND BECOME

10:48:26 ABROAD.

10:48:28 ALL WILL BE CLEAR TO THEM.

10:48:31 THE NIGHT THICKENS OVER ISRAEL ON ACCOUNT OF ITS

10:48:32 UNBELIEF.

10:48:36 THE DISCIPLE ALSO ADVANCE EVEN INTO FURTHER LIGHT.

10:48:41 UNTIL THERE IS NOTHING LEFT IN PLAN OF GOD WHICH IS

10:48:42 OBSCURE OR HIDDEN.

10:48:45 NOTHING WILL BE HIDDEN THAT IS SECRET, YOU GUYS.

10:48:46 IT IS COMING OUT.

10:48:49 MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR DECISIONS

10:48:52 AND SEARCH YOUR SOULS WHAT JESUS WOULD DO.

10:48:54 THERE IS MORE, BUT HAVE A GREAT DAY.

10:48:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

10:49:01 NEXT ALBERT MYLO.

10:49:10 >>CLERK: PETER VAN WARNER AND SIRIO LAFAR DID REGISTER

10:49:12 AND DID NOT LOG ON TO SPEAK.

10:49:16 WE WILL BE MOVING ON TO RUSS WEBB.

10:49:18 IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE

10:49:20 THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:49:21 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:49:22 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:49:24 THANK VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY.

10:49:28 RUSS.

10:49:31 THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE BAY AREA APARTMENT THAT

10:49:33 REPRESENT THE APARTMENT INDUSTRY OF TAMPA BAY.

10:49:37 I AM FILLING IN FOR OUR GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS WHO HAD A

10:49:40 CHANCE TO SPEAK TO YOU OF NOTICE OF RENTS INCREASE THAT

10:49:42 IS UP FOR FIRST READING TODAY.

10:49:45 THIS ORDINANCE REQUIRES A 60-DAY NOTICE FOR RENT

10:49:49 INCREASES AND A 30-DAY NOTICE TO TERMINATE

10:49:52 MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASES FROM THE RESIDENT AND THE

10:49:52 LORDLORD.

10:49:55 I WANT TO NOTE THAT THE ORDINANCE MAY CONFLICT WITH

10:49:59 STATE LAW THAT MAY EXCEED LOCAL JURISDICTION'S

10:50:01 AUTHORITY AND WE ARE WORKING WITH ATTORNEYS TO EXAMINE

10:50:01 THAT.

10:50:05 ONCE THAT IS DONE, WE WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE FIND

10:50:06 OUTS.

10:50:09 WE ARE GLAD TO SEE 60 DAYS INSTEAD OF THE SIX MONTHS.

10:50:12 A MUCH MORE REALISTIC PERIOD TO CONSIDER.

10:50:15 THE FACT IS BETWEEN THE FLUCTUATIONS IN COSTS, THE

10:50:18 OVERALL PACE OF INFLATION AND ITS CHANGING MARKET

10:50:22 CONDITIONS, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A LANDLORD TO SET A

10:50:24 REALISTIC PRICE IN SIX MONTHS IN ADVANCE.

10:50:28 FURTHER REQUIRE TO TELL US 60 DAYS FROM THE END OF

10:50:31 THEIR LEASE IF THEY STAY IN THEIR UNIT OR LEASE IT.

10:50:37 THE BEST-CASE SCENARIO 60 DAYS' NOTICE.

10:50:43 AND 60-DAY NOTICE IS MUCH MORE REALISTIC, BUT IT IS

10:50:45 UNNECESSARY BECAUSE OF REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE STATE

10:50:48 LAW, MOST RESIDENTS RECEIVE THEIR LEASE RENEWAL OFFERS

10:50:52 THAT INCLUDE A PORTION OF THE APPLICABLE RENT INCREASES

10:50:56 BETWEEN 45 TO 75 DAYS OF THE LEASE RETURN.

10:50:58 PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE NOTICE THAT THIS IS GETTING

10:50:59 CALLED FOR OR CLOSE TO IF.

10:51:05 REGARDING THE NOTICE CHANGE THE MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASE.

10:51:08 IT MAY HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

10:51:13 A RESIDENT OR LANDLORD CAN TERMINATE 15 DAYS NOTICE.

10:51:17 IN PRACTICE, THE RESIDENT HAS TWO WEEKS AT THE END OF

10:51:19 THE MONTH TO END THEIR LEASE BY THE END OF THE MONTH.

10:51:23 RESIDENTS THAT WANT MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASES REQUIRE

10:51:26 FLEXIBILITY BUT REQUIRING 30-DAY NOTICE MAKES IT

10:51:29 IMPOSSIBLE OF LEASE TERMINATION IN THE SAME MONTHS.

10:51:32 RESIDENTS WILL BE ON THE HOOK FOR AN ADDITIONAL MONTH'S

10:51:34 RENT BECAUSE OF THIS ORDINANCE.

10:51:39 WE WANT TO YOU CONSIDER A 21-DAY PERIOD TO GIVE A WEEK

10:51:42 ON THE RENTAL PERIOD OF THE MONTH-TO-MONTH.

10:51:45 WE UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT OF WHICH THIS ORDINANCE IS

10:51:47 BEING PROPOSED AND MANY TALK OF THE MARKETED,

10:51:50 AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS AND SUPPLY ISSUES.

10:51:52 I THINK EVERYBODY REQUEST AGREED THAT WE HAVE BEEN

10:51:56 THROUGH AN UNPRECEDENTED PERIOD.

10:51:58 WITH THAT SAID, CHANGING THE LAW AND RESPONSE TO

10:52:01 TEMPORARY CONDITIONS CHANGING IT FOR WHAT IS COMMON AND

10:52:03 KNOWN PRACTICE ACROSS THE STATE COULD CREATE A

10:52:06 PATCHWORK OF RULES THAT MAKE IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR

10:52:10 RESIDENTS TO KNOW THEIR RIGHTS AND TO MANAGE RENTAL

10:52:11 HOMES TO OPERATE.

10:52:13 THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK.

10:52:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:52:18 DID JULIUS DAVIS SPEAK IN PERSON?

10:52:19 >> YES.

10:52:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL TAKE HIM OFF THE LIST

10:52:21 THERE.

10:52:23 THAT CONCLUDES THE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

10:52:25 ALL RIGHT, ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR

10:52:28 RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?

10:52:31 IF NOT, WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 4.

10:52:35 YES, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:52:39 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I CAN SAY SOMETHING IN LIEU OF ALL

10:52:40 THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE HEARD.

10:52:43 WE HAD A DISCUSSION A FEW WEEKS AGO ON THIS HOUSING

10:52:49 CRISIS.

10:52:53 AND A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.

10:52:57 A PIECE OF FEEDBACK IS TO PROPOSE A SIX-MONTH NOTICE

10:52:58 PERIOD.

10:52:59 I THINK I MADE THE MOTION.

10:53:01 WE APPROVED HAVING THIS COME BEFORE US TODAY.

10:53:05 HOWEVER, LEGAL IN A FEW MINUTES WILL TELL US THAT BY

10:53:08 STATE LAW, WE CAN'T HAVE A SIX-MONTH NOTICE PERIOD.

10:53:12 SO I WANT THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC KNOW WE DID ATTEMPT

10:53:16 NOT JUST A 90-DAY NOTICE PERIOD BUT A SIX-MONTH NOTICE

10:53:17 PERIOD.

10:53:20 THE MOST WE CAN DO IS 60 DAYS AND WE HEARD FROM THE

10:53:21 APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.

10:53:25 THEY MAY EVEN CHALLENGE THE MONTH-TO-MONTH PART OF IT.

10:53:29 BUT DEPENDING ON WHAT LEGAL SAYS, WE SHOULD STEP

10:53:30 FORWARD ANYWAY.

10:53:33 JUST FOR THE FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC WHO SPOKEN ABOUT THE

10:53:36 -- THE RENTAL CRISIS AND HOUSING CRISIS.

10:53:39 WE HAVE A WORKSHOP SET FOR MAY 26 WHERE WE ARE GOING TO

10:53:43 ASK PUBLIC TO COME IN WITH IDEAS.

10:53:47 WE HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING OUR OWN IDEAS.

10:53:49 AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC THAT HAVE SPECIALIZED

10:53:52 EXPERTISE IN THIS.

10:53:53 AND IDEAS THAT ARE PRESENTED.

10:53:57 MOST OF THE -- MOST OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT IS

10:53:59 AROUND RENT CONTROL, WHICH IS VERY SEVERELY RESTRICTED

10:54:04 BY STATE LAW AND HAVEN'T BEEN DONE IN 20 OR 30 YEARS.

10:54:08 I PERSONALLY THINK IT WILL BE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON

10:54:10 RENTERS BECAUSE THE LANDLORDS WILL RAISE RATE IN

10:54:13 ADVANCE OF THE ONE-YEAR MAXIMUM THAT WILL BE ALLOWED.

10:54:16 WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS TO COME WITH OTHER IDEAS.

10:54:17 WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING.

10:54:20 AND WE KNOW THE PUBLIC HAVE A LOT OF IDEA AND WE HOPE

10:54:23 ON MAY 26, THAT FOLKS CAN COME WITH MORE IDEAS THAT WE

10:54:24 CAN LISTEN TO.

10:54:27 AND THE OVERRIDING ISSUE AS WAS MENTIONED A SHORTAGE OF

10:54:28 AFFORDABLE HOMES.

10:54:31 WE HAVE A $50,000 UNIT SHORTAGE WE ARE TRYING AS

10:54:33 QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO FILL.

10:54:36 AND WE HAVE GOT A SHORTAGE OF UNITS IN GENERAL.

10:54:39 SO WE ARE WORKING ON ALL THE DIFFERENT LEVELS TO TRY TO

10:54:42 ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

10:54:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:54:44 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:54:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, I SPOKE WITH THE FOLKS IN

10:54:51 MIAMI -- THE LEGAL TEAM IN MIAMI WORKING ON THE

10:54:53 EMERGENCY CRISIS FOR HOUSING OPINION.

10:54:56 AND A TEAM WITH OTHER COALITIONS THAT ARE WORKING TO

10:54:57 LOOK AT THE STUDY.

10:55:00 I KNOW I ASKED OUR -- OUR FOLKS HERE WHEN THEY CAME

10:55:04 BACK ON THAT WORKSHOP TO LOOK AT A STUDY AS WELL AND

10:55:08 HOPEFULLY GET ANSWERS ABOUT THAT STUDY, MR. CARLSON.

10:55:10 BUT MIAMI IS WORKING ON A STUDY RIGHT NOW.

10:55:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:55:19 YES, MA'AM.

10:55:23 >>REBECCA JOHNS: GOOD MORNING, REBECCA JOHNS, ASSISTANT CITY

10:55:23 ATTORNEY.

10:55:27 I'M HERE WITH THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, WHICH YOU REQUESTED

10:55:29 AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON STATED.

10:55:32 HE REQUESTED A SIX-MONTH NOTICE FOR A LANDLORD TO

10:55:36 PROVIDE BEFORE THEY RAISED THE RENT.

10:55:41 FLORIDA STATUTES PROVIDES IF A LEASE REQUIRES ADVANCE

10:55:44 NOTICE OF NONRENEWAL OF A LEASE, THAT NOTICE PERIOD IS

10:55:47 LIMITED TO 60 DAYS.

10:55:51 SO ADVISING OF A RENTAL INCREASE IS THE EQUIVALENT OF A

10:55:54 NONRENEWAL OR RENEWAL TERMS.

10:55:58 SO, THEREFORE, THAT IS WHY I LIMITED IT TO THE 60-DAY

10:55:59 PERIOD.

10:56:03 THIS ORDINANCE WOULD ALSO REQUIRE THAT A MONTH-TO-MONTH

10:56:08 LEASE COULD NOT BE TERMINATED UNLESS YOU HAVE 30 DAYS'

10:56:09 NOTICE.

10:56:10 RIGHT NOW IT IS 15 DAYS.

10:56:13 I DID RAISE THAT TO ITS 30 DAYS IN ORDER TO GIVE THE

10:56:14 MAXIMUM TIME.

10:56:17 THAT IS UP TO YOU WHETHER YOU WANT TO AS THE SPEAKERS

10:56:21 HAVE SPOKE, TO REDUCE THAT TO 21 DAYS.

10:56:26 THAT WAS JUST ME TRYING TO TAKE IT TO THE MAX.

10:56:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:56:31 >>BILL CARLSON: THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION SAID THEY

10:56:34 ARE LOOKING INTO THE LEGALITIES OF THE 30-DAY NOTICE

10:56:39 FOR MONTH TO MONTH OPINION DO YOU FEEL STRONGLY IT WILL

10:56:42 HOLD.

10:56:47 >>REBECCA JOHNS: AN ATTORNEY GENERAL POSITION THAT A

10:56:50 NOTICE PERIOD PROVIDED BY THE STATE PROVIDED IT IS NOT

10:56:52 NO CONFLICT WITH THE OTHER PORTIONS OF THE STATE

10:56:53 STATUTE.

10:56:57 >>BILL CARLSON: I AM HAPPY TO MOVE THE ORDINANCE.

10:56:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:57:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS GOING TO SECOND IT.

10:57:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY DISCUSSION?

10:57:04 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:57:07 >>LUIS VIERA: LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS.

10:57:10 I THANK COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD.

10:57:11 I REMEMBER THE MEETING.

10:57:15 A HEATED MEETING THINGS WE COULD DO OR CAN'T DO AND

10:57:17 COUNCILMAN CARLSON CAME UP WITH THINGS REMEMBER ABLE TO

10:57:20 DO AND MOVE FORWARD.

10:57:23 I KNOW THAT ALL SEVEN OF US ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE WE

10:57:26 ARE DEALING WITH SUCH A LARGE CRISIS AND ISSUES LIKE

10:57:28 THIS, WE ARE LIMITED, RIGHT.

10:57:32 BUT GOOD FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD ON THESE THINGS WE CAN

10:57:38 DO BIT BY BIT BY BIT BY BIT TO ADDRESS THIS CRISIS AND

10:57:41 DO WHAT WE CAN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:57:42 THANK THE COUNCILMAN FOR THIS.

10:57:44 AND ALL THE COUNCILMEMBERS.

10:57:48 AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AND A GOOD ENDEAVOR.

10:57:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:57:51 I AM A RENTER.

10:57:53 MY WIFE IS A TEACHER.

10:57:55 WE SPLIT THE RENT AND WE ARE UP FOR RENEWAL IN JUNE,

10:57:58 WHICH IS 60 DAYS BEFORE OUR LEASE ENDS.

10:58:00 I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY RENT IS GOING TO GO UP TO.

10:58:04 I KNOW WHAT WE PAY NOW, IT COULD GO UP $500 A MONTH,

10:58:05 $400 A MONTH.

10:58:08 I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS -- I AM NOT GOING TO NAME THEM.

10:58:12 THEY RENT AND ONE JUST RENEWED, SOMEONE CLOSE TO ME.

10:58:14 I AM NOT GOING TO NAME THEM.

10:58:16 SHE WAS TERRIFIED.

10:58:20 HER AND HER BOYFRIEND AND HE MANAGES A LIQUOR STORE AND

10:58:24 SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT SHE WOULD GET HIT AND LUCKILY JUST

10:58:25 UNDER 200.

10:58:26 IT WAS $200.

10:58:30 WHEN GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND $6 FOR A GALLON OF

10:58:31 MILK AND YOU GO TO GET ANYTHING.

10:58:34 GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND SEE.

10:58:37 I AM THINKING UNBELIEVABLE BECAUSE WAGES AREN'T GOING

10:58:38 UP.

10:58:40 I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A RENTER.

10:58:43 I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

10:58:46 I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT MORE OPTIONS, BECAUSE WE

10:58:48 HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS CITY THAT ARE HURTING AND

10:58:50 I KNOW WE HAD THAT WORKSHOP.

10:58:52 COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT IT.

10:58:55 WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS AND PUT EVERYTHING ON

10:58:58 THE TABLE TO HELP THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

10:59:01 SO COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU WISH TO READ IT, SIR?

10:59:03 >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED TO READ THE WHOLE THING.

10:59:09 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER E 2022-8 CHAPTER 12,

10:59:12 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING

10:59:17 CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE

10:59:23 CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 12-146, 147

10:59:29 INCREASING NOTIFICATION PERIOD FOREMONTH-TO-MONTH AND

10:59:33 30 DAYS AND LANDLORDS 60 DAYS PRIOR WRITTEN OF A RENT

10:59:36 INCREASE, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND

10:59:42 OF VIOLATIONS AMENDING 19.4A AND 23 MUCH 3D.

10:59:45 REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT, PROVIDING

10:59:47 SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:59:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.

10:59:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.

10:59:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:59:54 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

10:59:55 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:59:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:59:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:59:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:00:03 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING

11:00:04 ABSENT A VOTES.

11:00:09 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION MAY 19, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.

11:00:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY 67 MUCH.

11:00:14 COUNCILMAN.

11:00:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE ITEMS 5 THROUGH 10.

11:00:20 >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 5-10.

11:00:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND

11:00:24 IS SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:00:25 ALL IN FAVOR.

11:00:27 OPPOSED?

11:00:29 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:00:30 11-14.

11:00:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE.

11:00:32 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.

11:00:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:00:36 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A STATEMENT REAL FAST.

11:00:40 I WANT TO SAY KUDOS TO THE PUBLIC ART PEOPLE AND

11:00:46 WHOEVER ELSE WAS INVOLVED WITH ITEM NUMBER 11.

11:00:50 IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE ARTIST'S WORK, SHE WON THE

11:00:54 GASPARILLA MUSIC FESTIVAL AWARD AND GOOGLE ARE YOU

11:00:55 HUNGRY, TAMPA.

11:00:57 AND HER WORK IS PHENOMENAL.

11:01:00 I THINK SHE WILL BE AN INTERNATIONAL CELEBRITY IN THE

11:01:01 NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

11:01:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WENT DOWN TO THE WATER STREET

11:01:04 GROCERY STORE.

11:01:09 AND IT WAS JUST TRULY AMAZING THE THINGS SHE HAS DONE.

11:01:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. GUDES.

11:01:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I ASKED THE JUNETEENTH -- AND I

11:01:18 DID SPEAK TO THE ADMINISTRATION.

11:01:19 THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.

11:01:23 AWAITING FOR UNION CONTRACTS TO SEE IF THEY CAN MAKE

11:01:28 THIS COME TO FRUITION FOR JUNETEENTH AS A CITY HOLIDAY.

11:01:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

11:01:33 ECHOING WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.

11:01:41 I SAW THE RENDERINGS.

11:01:45 GWENDOLYN MILLER, OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE.

11:01:50 FIRST BLACK WOMAN ELECTED CITYWIDE AND SHE SERVED HERE

11:01:51 FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

11:01:55 WE MOVED THAT, CORRECT?

11:01:56 SO WE ARE GOOD THERE.

11:01:58 ITEMS PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE.

11:02:00 WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

11:02:01 15-17.

11:02:10 >>LYNN HURTAK: LOOKS LIKE 17 HAS A STAFF REPORT.

11:02:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU WANT

11:02:14 TO MAKE A COMMENT ON 15.

11:02:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AFTER EVERYTHING IS PASSED.

11:02:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SPEARMAN TRANSMITSED A STAFF

11:02:21 REPORT FOR ITEM 17.

11:02:27 WAS THERE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO THAT?

11:02:31 IT MAY JUST BE FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES BECAUSE OF

11:02:33 AMOUNT, $2.3 MILLION.

11:02:36 >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 15-17.

11:02:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

11:02:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:02:41 COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU WANTED TO TALK.

11:02:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

11:02:50 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK DENNIS ROGIRO, DEE DUNCAN AND DR.

11:02:53 BEN NET ON ITEM NUMBER 15 OPINION IF WE LOOK VERY

11:02:59 CLOSELY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, IT SAYS, A DECREASE OF

11:03:04 ALMOST $2.5 MILLION.

11:03:08 I DON'T THINK WE GET TO BRAG THAT OFTEN ABOUT THAT.

11:03:11 WELL-DONE TO OUR CITY STAFF FOR SAVING THE CITIZENS OF

11:03:13 TAMPA $2.5 MILLION.

11:03:14 THANK YOU.

11:03:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:03:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:03:21 18-19 AND 20.

11:03:25 AND HOLDING 22 AND 21.

11:03:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:03:30 20 AND 21 WILL BE AT 1:30 AS WE DISCUSSED.

11:03:31 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:03:38 YOU ARE THE CHAIR FOR 23-29 AND 29 IS A SUBSTITUTE

11:03:40 RESOLUTION.

11:03:45 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE 22-29 INCLUDING SUBSTITUTE.

11:03:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:03:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:03:49 AYE.

11:03:50 ANY OPPOSED?

11:03:50 ALL RIGHT.

11:03:52 WHO WOULD LIKE TO --

11:03:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 30-31 ALREADY MR.

11:04:02 CHAIRMAN, ITEM 30 FOR QUESTION CALLED HEARING JUNE 2,

11:04:03 2022.

11:04:09 AND 31 TO MAY 5 IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON THE THIRD

11:04:17 FLOOR THE 19TH OF MAY -- OR -- OR MAY 19.

11:04:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

11:04:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MR. SHELBY.

11:04:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ON THE ADDENDUM AS

11:04:27 ITEM 31 AND HAS SUBSTITUTES.

11:04:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL RIGHT.

11:04:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA

11:04:34 AND SECOND FROM -- WHO WAS THE SECOND?

11:04:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DID.

11:04:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:04:38 OPPOSED?

11:04:41 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 9:30.

11:04:42 >> SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:04:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE 9:30 A.M. AND THE 10:30.

11:04:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION.

11:04:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:04:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:04:51 AYE.

11:04:53 ANY OPPOSED?

11:04:56 OKAY, WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 32.

11:04:58 LET ME PULL UP MY SPEAKER LIST HERE.

11:04:59 ITEM 32.

11:05:02 I SEE MISS MALONE ON THE LINE.

11:05:06 HAVE YOU BEEN -- HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?

11:05:08 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE MRSHING

11:05:10 FOR PLAN AMENDMENTS.

11:05:12 I AM NOT SURE --

11:05:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SORRY, GO AHEAD.

11:05:16 >>JENNIFER MALONE: NO PROBLEM AT ALL.

11:05:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

11:05:26 >>JENNIFER MALONE: TA/CPA 21-25, PORTION OF THE TAMPA

11:05:31 APARTMENTS AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 TO REGIONAL MIXED

11:05:33 USE-100.

11:05:35 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:05:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?

11:05:39 IF NOT.

11:05:43 IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS ITEM.

11:05:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALEX TYLER AND GRAHAM.

11:05:47 IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK.

11:05:52 I SEE -- OKAY, SOMEBODY FROM THE TYLER HUDSON'S OFFICE.

11:05:55 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

11:06:04 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

11:06:05 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

11:06:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.

11:06:11 >> GOOD MORNING, ALEX MUELLER.

11:06:17 WE ARE HERE AS JENNIFER SAID TA/CPA 21-25.

11:06:19 RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND WAS

11:06:22 PASSED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FIRST READING.

11:06:24 AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:06:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? NO?

11:06:29 SEEING NONE.

11:06:30 HEARING NONE.

11:06:33 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC PUSHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 32.

11:06:35 I SEE NONE.

11:06:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE.

11:06:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.

11:06:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:06:40 OPPOSED.

11:06:41 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, READ 32.

11:06:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 32, FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 21-25,

11:06:50 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

11:06:53 ADOPTION, ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA

11:06:59 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT AND FUTURE

11:07:10 LAND USE MAP FOR 1502 NUCCIO PARKWAY 920 GOMILLON

11:07:15 COURT AND NUCCIO PARKWAY FROM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 TO

11:07:17 REGIONAL MIXED USE-100.

11:07:21 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL A ORDINANCES.

11:07:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

11:07:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:07:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:07:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:07:26 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:07:28 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:07:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:07:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:07:36 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING

11:07:38 ABSENT AT VOTE.

11:07:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH ITEM NUMBER

11:07:42 33.

11:07:44 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING

11:07:46 COMMISSION.

11:07:51 201 TO 203 EAST CLUSTER AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL-10 TO

11:07:51 RESIDENTIAL-20.

11:07:54 YOU APPROVED IT MARCH 24, AND I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER

11:07:55 ANY QUESTIONS.

11:07:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS

11:07:57 MALONE?

11:08:00 ALL RIGHT, A REPRESENTATIVE FOR 33.

11:08:01 ANYTHING?

11:08:04 >> I DON'T BELIEVE THE REPRESENTATIVE IS ON THE LINE

11:08:05 TODAY, SIR.

11:08:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY REGISTERED FOR 33.

11:08:09 NOBODY ON MY LIST.

11:08:11 ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM

11:08:13 NUMBER 33.

11:08:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE.

11:08:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

11:08:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU A LIKE

11:08:20 TO READ 33.

11:08:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:08:23 ITEM NUMBER 33.

11:08:28 FILE NUMBER TA-CPA 21-28, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR

11:08:33 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE

11:08:37 MANAGE 2040, TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE

11:08:40 ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED

11:08:48 201 AND 203 EAST CLUSTER AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL-10,

11:08:53 R-10, TO RESIDENTIAL-20, R-20, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF

11:08:56 ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,

11:09:00 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:09:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:09:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:09:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:09:06 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:09:08 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:09:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:09:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:09:13 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING

11:09:14 ABSENT AT VOTE.

11:09:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:09:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 34, MISS

11:09:22 MALONE.

11:09:24 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR PLANNING

11:09:33 COMMISSION, FILE NUMBER TA-CPA 21-30.

11:09:33 FROM.

11:09:37 ALEX SCHALER -- ALEX AND TYLER HUDSON BUT AVAILABLE FOR

11:09:38 ANY QUESTIONS.

11:09:39 THANK YOU.

11:09:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS.

11:09:41 NO QUESTIONS?

11:09:43 YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD, ALEX.

11:09:48 >> ALEX SCHALER HERE REPRESENTING THE FILE NUMBER

11:09:51 TA-CPA 21-30.

11:09:53 APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND APPROVED AT FIRST

11:09:56 READING AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU

11:09:56 HAVE ANY.

11:09:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

11:10:00 SEEING OR HEARING NONE.

11:10:02 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO PEAK.

11:10:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:10:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:10:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:10:08 OPPOSED.

11:10:10 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU MIND READING 34.

11:10:15 >>LYNN HURTAK: ABSOLUTELY.

11:10:16 FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 21-30.

11:10:19 ORDER FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

11:10:24 AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN

11:10:27 FUTURE LAND USE AMOUNT AND FUTURE LAND USE AS A MATTER

11:10:33 OF FACT.

11:10:38 >> TO PROPERTY 2015 TO 2017 MAPLE AVENUE AND 2020 OAK

11:10:39 AVENUE.

11:10:43 TRANSACTION USE 24, TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.

11:10:47 PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:10:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FOR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND

11:10:51 SECOND.

11:10:53 ROLL CALL.

11:10:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:10:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:10:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:10:58 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:10:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:11:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:11:03 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING

11:11:04 ABSENT AT VOTE.

11:11:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS

11:11:09 35-40.

11:11:12 IF YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK ON 35-40.

11:11:14 PLEASE STAND IF YOU ARE HERE AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN

11:11:19 IF YOU WERE SPEAKING 35-40.

11:11:26 [SWEARING IN]

11:11:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 35, ZAIN

11:11:30 HUSSEIN.

11:11:32 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ZAIN HUSSEIN,

11:11:34 LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

11:11:39 CASE REZ-21-115 BEING HEARD FOR SECOND READING AND

11:11:44 ADOPTION AT 1503 NORTH NEBRASKA.

11:11:59 1218, 1302, 1304, 1306, 1308, 1310, 1312, AND 1314 EAS

11:12:08 KAY STREET AND 801, 03, 05, 07, 09 AND 11 EAST OAK

11:12:09 AVENUE.

11:12:12 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY

11:12:16 ATTACHED AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.

11:12:19 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE

11:12:21 TWO DAYS AGO.

11:12:22 HERE WITH ANY QUESTIONS.

11:12:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ZAIN

11:12:26 HUSSEIN.

11:12:27 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

11:12:30 DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE FOR 35?

11:12:31 YES, SIR.

11:12:33 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:12:37 MARK BENTLEY, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET 33602.

11:12:39 YOU REPRESENT THE APPLICANT AND HERE TO ANSWER ANY

11:12:40 QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A.

11:12:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BENTLEY?

11:12:44 NO QUESTIONS?

11:12:44 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:12:47 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT PUSHES TO WEAK ON ITEM

11:12:49 NUMBER 35?

11:12:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:12:53 >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.

11:12:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:12:59 OPPOSEEYE NUMBER 35, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:13:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 21-115, ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING

11:13:08 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1502 NORTH

11:13:19 NEBRASKA AVENUE, 1218, 1302, 1304, 1306, 1308, 1310,

11:13:26 1312, AND 1314 EAST KAY STREET AND 801, 803, 805, 807,

11:13:32 809, AND 811, EAST 3RD AVENUE.

11:13:36 TO PD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE ATTACHED AND PROVIDING

11:13:38 EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:13:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:13:42 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:13:43 ROLL CALL.

11:13:44 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:13:45 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:13:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:13:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:13:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:13:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:13:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:13:56 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:13:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO BEATLES TRIVIA QUESTION.

11:14:00 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.

11:14:02 I ABSTAINED FROM THIS LAST TIME.

11:14:07 AND I WOULD LIKE TO PLEASE MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND

11:14:10 FILE MY --

11:14:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.

11:14:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FOR COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO

11:14:20 FILE HIS FORM AND SECOND FROM MR. MIRANDA.

11:14:24 >>BILL CARLSON: THE COMPANY BY WHOM I AM RETAINED HAVE

11:14:27 BUSINESS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ON MATTER NOT RELATED TO

11:14:29 THIS APPLICATION.

11:14:31 ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

11:14:32 OPPOSED?

11:14:35 ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 36.

11:14:38 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH, ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND

11:14:39 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

11:14:46 36, CASE SU 2-21-0 3, BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READ

11:14:49 ACHBLINGD ADOPTION, SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 APPROVING A

11:14:54 SCHOOL AND RESIDENTIAL-60 ZONING DISTRICT LOCATION

11:14:57 4210 WEST BAY VILLA AVENUE.

11:14:59 THE SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TUESDAY TO THE CLERK'S

11:15:00 OFFICE.

11:15:02 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

11:15:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HUISSEIN.

11:15:07 HEARING NONE.

11:15:10 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR 36?

11:15:14 >> GOOD MORNING, JULIA MANDEL, 401 EAST JACKSON

11:15:14 STREET.

11:15:17 I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE SCHOOL BOARD OF HILLSBOROUGH

11:15:17 COUNTY.

11:15:19 I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT AND WE LOOK

11:15:22 FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO EDUCATE OUR STUDENTS.

11:15:23 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

11:15:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

11:15:25 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

11:15:29 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 36?

11:15:33 MOTION TO CLOSE.

11:15:36 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN

11:15:37 GUDES.

11:15:39 COUNCILMAN CARLSON STEPPED OUT.

11:15:43 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, READ ITEM NUMBER 36.

11:15:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER SU2-21-03.

11:15:51 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, SPECIAL USE PERMIT

11:15:56 SU-2 APPROVING A SCHOOL AND RS-60 IN RESIDENTIAL

11:15:58 SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY

11:16:04 OF 4210 WEST BAY VILLA AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,

11:16:06 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:16:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:16:10 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:16:12 ROLL CALL.

11:16:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DIDN'T.

11:16:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:16:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:16:19 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:16:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, AND.

11:16:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:16:29 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH MR. CARLSON.

11:16:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JULIA MANDEL, FORMER CITY

11:16:33 ATTORNEY.

11:16:34 WELCOME BACK TO CITY HALL.

11:16:37 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 37,

11:16:40 CASE AB 2-22-05.

11:16:43 THIS IS BEING PRESENT TODAY ARE SECOND READING AND

11:16:43 ADOPTION.

11:16:47 FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION

11:16:51 ON PREMISE AND PACKAGE SALES, OFF-PRECHL MISS

11:16:56 CONSUMPTION FOR BEAR, WINE AND LIQUOR ADDRESS 250 EAST

11:16:57 FLORIBRASKA AVENUE.

11:17:00 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE

11:17:00 ON TUESDAY.

11:17:02 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:17:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ZAIN

11:17:05 HUSSEIN.

11:17:06 HEARING NONE.

11:17:07 WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ONLINE.

11:17:10 PLEASE GO AHEAD.

11:17:15 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

11:17:17 >> SORRY.

11:17:17 DOUBLE MUTE.

11:17:21 MEGAN SMITH WITH HUDSON.

11:17:24 ON BEHALF THE APPLICANT 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE, WE

11:17:26 APPRECIATE STAFF'S HELP WITH ALL OF THIS AND ARE HERE

11:17:27 FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:17:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

11:17:34 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON

11:17:35 ITEM 37.

11:17:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:17:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:17:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:17:40 AYE.

11:17:42 OPPOSED.

11:17:47 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, READ ITEM 37.

11:17:50 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AB 2-22-05

11:17:53 ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION APPROVING A

11:17:57 SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES,

11:18:01 SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES

11:18:05 OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION MAKING LAWFUL THE SALES OF

11:18:09 BEVERAGES REGARDING OF ALCOHOLIC CONSENT BEER WINE AND

11:18:13 LIQUOR ON CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED

11:18:16 520 EAST FLORIBRASKA AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE

11:18:21 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AS JIBED THIS SECTION 3,

11:18:25 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:18:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON

11:18:29 AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:18:30 ROLL CALL.

11:18:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:18:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:18:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:18:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:18:34 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:18:35 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:18:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:18:40 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:18:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 38.

11:18:45 MR. HUSSE IN.

11:18:46 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN.

11:18:57 AGENDA ITEM 38, CASE AB 2-08, ALCOHOL SALES LARGE VENUE

11:19:02 ON-PREMISE AND OFF-PREMISES.

11:19:07 BEER, WINE AT 203 NORTH MERIDIAN AVENUE.

11:19:10 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TUESDAY TO THE CITY CLERK'S

11:19:10 OFFICE.

11:19:12 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:19:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

11:19:15 NOPE?

11:19:19 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM 38.

11:19:23 >> GOOD MORNING, COLIN RICE, EAST 101 BOULEVARD HERE

11:19:24 FOR THE APPLICANT.

11:19:26 HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:19:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

11:19:28 NO?

11:19:32 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER

11:19:32 38?

11:19:33 ITEM NUMBER 38?

11:19:36 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.

11:19:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.

11:19:39 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.

11:19:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:19:44 OPPOSED IN COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:19:44 38.

11:19:48 >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE ON ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READ AND

11:19:51 ADOPTION SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE

11:19:56 SALES, LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISES AND PACKAGE

11:20:01 SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE

11:20:06 OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE

11:20:10 AND LIQUOR TO THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OF TRACT OF LAND

11:20:13 203 NORTH MERIDIAN AVENUE TAMPA, FLORIDA.

11:20:18 AND ALL ORDINANCES OF REPEALING AB 19-34 PROVIDING AN

11:20:19 EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:20:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:20:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND

11:20:24 SECOND BY MIRANDA.

11:20:25 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:20:26 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:20:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:20:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.

11:20:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:20:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:20:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:20:39 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO VOTING NO.

11:20:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 39.

11:20:43 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT -- THEY WEREN'T HERE THE LAST

11:20:44 TIME.

11:20:44 >> I'M HERE.

11:20:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE YOU COME UP, ITEM NUMBER

11:20:50 39, MR. ZAIN HUSSEIN.

11:20:51 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

11:20:53 ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

11:20:57 AGENDA ITEM 39, CASE AB 2 --

11:20:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST A MOMENT.

11:20:59 MR. SHELBY.

11:21:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:21:06 ITEM NUMBER 39 WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA PURSUANT TO

11:21:09 COUNCIL RULES PROCEDURES 6 H BECAUSE IT RESULTED

11:21:12 PREVIOUSLY IN A TIE VOTE OF 3-3.

11:21:14 AS OUTLINED ON YOUR AGENDA.

11:21:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. HUSSEIN GO

11:21:19 AHEAD.

11:21:20 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ZAIN HUSSEIN.

11:21:25 AGENDA ITEM 39, CASE AB 2-20-11.

11:21:29 A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE 2 FOR SMALL VENUE BEER,

11:21:33 WINE AND LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISE AND PACKAGE

11:21:37 SALES, OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION AT 703 NORTH WILLOW

11:21:40 AVENUE.

11:21:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN.

11:21:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.

11:21:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THIS MATTER.

11:21:50 THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER

11:21:58 23 OF 2021, FEBRUARY 24 OF 2022 -- EXCUSE ME, SEPTEMBER

11:22:04 21 OF 2021 AND SEPTEMBER 29 OF -- FEBRUARY 24 OF 2022.

11:22:07 AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WAS NOT PRESENT ON MARCH 17

11:22:10 OF 2022.

11:22:18 THAT BEING THE CASE, I HAVE PROVIDED THE HEARING --

11:22:22 PREVIOUS HEARINGS, THE LINKS TO THOSE AND THE -- THE

11:22:26 RECORD AS IT IS IN SIRE, AND I ASKED THE COUNCILWOMAN

11:22:29 -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IF SHE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO

11:22:32 REVIEW THE RECORD AND IF YOU ARE PREPARED TO VOTE.

11:22:35 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I REVIEWED THE RECORDS AND I AM

11:22:37 PREPARED TO VOTE.

11:22:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THAT, THE HEARING IS

11:22:43 OPEN AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, YOU

11:22:44 CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, READ THE ORDINANCE OR

11:22:46 NOT.

11:22:49 WHATEVER THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS AND TAKE THE VOTE.

11:22:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:22:53 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?

11:22:53 NOPE?

11:22:56 DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON

11:22:57 39.

11:22:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THE APPLICANT CAN COME UP AND

11:23:02 IDENTIFY.

11:23:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

11:23:11 >> I AM JOSEPH COMMESSO, THE OWNER OF 703 NORTH WILLOW

11:23:13 AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.

11:23:15 I KNOW WE HAVE A NEW MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL.

11:23:19 I AM ASKING FOR -- I KNOW THE PARKING WAS AN ISSUE WITH

11:23:21 A LOT OF THE MEMBERS ON HERE.

11:23:22 WE HAVE A 3-3 TIE.

11:23:25 SO I GUESS I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A REVOTE OR I AM

11:23:28 JUST TALKING TO MISS HURTAK ON THIS.

11:23:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A REVOTE.

11:23:30 >> OKAY.

11:23:34 WE DO HAVE A PARKING LEASE WITH 1221 WEST CASS STREET

11:23:39 WHICH IS OWNED BY SOHO CASS STREET LCC, BUT ACCORDING

11:23:43 TO THE CITY AND THE RULES, SINCE THEY ARE ONLY ZONED

11:23:46 FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THAT MEANS I HAVE NO

11:23:47 ACCESS TO IT.

11:23:52 SO EVEN TO GO OUT AND FIND OTHER PARKING IN THE AREA,

11:23:55 IF I HAVE A LEASE, WHICH I DO, WITH ANOTHER PROPERTY AT

11:23:58 1220, YOU GUYS STILL WOULD NOT CONSIDER IT BECAUSE IT

11:24:01 IS ONLY ZONED FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY TO PARK AT.

11:24:03 SO I AM KIND OF AT A CROSSROADS.

11:24:06 WHAT DO I TO DO GET MORE PARKING.

11:24:11 I WOULD JUST LIKE A FAIR YEA OR NAY VOTE FROM YOU GUYS.

11:24:14 I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS A BREWERY/RESTAURANT

11:24:18 WHICH IS THE PLANS FOR THIS PROPERTY ONCE -- IF WE GET

11:24:19 APPROVAL.

11:24:20 WE WILL COME BACK.

11:24:22 WE WANT TO OPEN A RESTAURANT ON THIS PROPERTY

11:24:23 EVENTUALLY.

11:24:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FROM MY UNDERSTANDING -- MY

11:24:29 PERSONAL OPINION, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, NORTH HYDE PARK,

11:24:30 CORRECT.

11:24:31 >> CORRECT.

11:24:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GENERALLY THEY TALK OF

11:24:33 WALKABILITY.

11:24:35 THEY TALK OF RIDING THEIR BIKE.

11:24:37 YOU SEE THE DENSITY IN THE APARTMENTS.

11:24:39 THE RESIDENTIAL THAT IS THERE.

11:24:41 SO, YOU KNOW, WOULD PARKING BE AN ISSUE.

11:24:44 THAT IS -- LOOKING AT THIS.

11:24:46 DO YOU EVEN NEED THE PARKING.

11:24:47 >> I DON'T THINK I NEED THE PARKING BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK

11:24:50 AT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE.

11:24:51 THEY ARE YOUNG.

11:24:53 THEY WANT A PLACE LIKE THIS TO GO TO FROM THE

11:24:53 NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:24:55 I DON'T EVEN THINK I NEED THE PARKING.

11:24:58 WILL IT BE A PLACE THAT IS POPULAR WITH PEOPLE FROM

11:25:02 OTHER AREAS AN WANT TO DRIVE IN, AND WE HAVE UP TO 40

11:25:05 SPACES NOW, BUT YOU GUYS WON'T CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE OF

11:25:08 THE ZONING THAT THAT PARKING ALREADY HAS.

11:25:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.

11:25:10 I AM NOT TESTIFYING.

11:25:13 I AM GIVING AN OPINION.

11:25:14 IS IT OKAY WHAT I SAID.

11:25:17 THAT DOESN'T EFFECT THE RECORD, RIGHT?

11:25:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME SAY THIS MR. CHAIRMAN AND

11:25:23 MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, JUST A REMINDER THAT THERE IS --

11:25:26 THERE ARE CODE PROVISIONS OR A CODE PROVISION THAT

11:25:29 ALLOWS FOR PARKING LEASE FOR PARKING TO BE CONSIDERED

11:25:32 IF IT MEETS CERTAIN CRITERIA.

11:25:35 THAT IS A DESIGN EXCEPTION AND I BELIEVE THAT -- THERE

11:25:40 IS A RECORD AS TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE DESIGN

11:25:41 EXCEPTION.

11:25:45 MR. HUSSEIN CAN ANSWER THAT IF THE COUNCIL HAS ANY

11:25:47 QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

11:25:49 WITH REGARD TO THE FACT THIS WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THE

11:25:52 CITY FOR WHATEVER REASONS, THEN WHAT IS BEFORE YOU IS A

11:25:57 PARKING WAIVER WHICH, I RESPECTIVE OF WHAT THE

11:25:59 BUSINESSES IS RUNS WITH THE LAND.

11:26:02 SO JUST A REMINDER TO YOU.

11:26:05 IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, YOU HAVE THE

11:26:10 OPPORTUNITY TO INQUIRE OF STAFF AND LEGAL ON THE

11:26:12 APPLICANT BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION.

11:26:15 JUST THAT REMINDER, PLEASE.

11:26:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS.

11:26:21 ANYBODY ELSE, SIR?

11:26:24 ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, 39.

11:26:25 NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

11:26:27 A MOTION TO CLOSE.

11:26:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION.

11:26:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:26:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

11:26:35 WE LEFT WITH COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:26:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM VOTING AGAINST THIS, NO, SIR.

11:26:44 >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER AB 2-20-11.

11:26:48 CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING -- SORRY ORDINANCE BEING

11:26:51 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT

11:26:59 S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, SMALL, AND ON PREMISE HIS

11:27:03 AND OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF

11:27:07 BEVERAGES REGARDLESSLE EVER ALCOHOL CONTENT BEER, WINE

11:27:13 AND LIQUOR ON CERTAIN LOT, PLAT OR TRACT OF LAND ON 703

11:27:18 NORTH WILLOW AVENUE, PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCES OR PART

11:27:22 OF ORDINANCES OF CONFLICT ARE REPEALED PROVIDING AN

11:27:24 EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:27:25 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.

11:27:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.

11:27:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:27:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.

11:27:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.

11:27:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.

11:27:35 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:27:36 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:27:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:27:42 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA, CITRO AND GUDES

11:27:43 VOTING NO.

11:27:46 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD MAY 19, 2022

11:27:48 AT 9:30 A.M.

11:27:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:27:54 MR. WIGGINTON.

11:27:56 ARE YOU UP.

11:27:56 >> ITEM NUMBER 40.

11:27:58 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

11:28:00 ROB WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

11:28:04 ITEM NUMBER 40 IS A CONTINUATION OF THE FIRST READING

11:28:08 TO VACATE AN ALLEYWAY LOCATED IN EAST TAMPA.

11:28:12 I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND CITY COUNCIL YOU HAVE WIDE

11:28:15 LATITUDE TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THE VACATING REQUEST.

11:28:18 SOME OF THE OTHER PACTERS YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IF

11:28:21 THE VACATING WILL RELIEVE THE PUBLIC FROM THE COST OF

11:28:24 MAINTAINING ALLEYWAY WHICH IS NO LONGER USEFUL,

11:28:28 ALLEVIATE A PUBLIC NUISANCE OF DUMPING OR KERR TAME

11:28:29 CINL ACTIVITY.

11:28:32 WHETHER YOU WILL FOSTER REDEVELOPMENT OF ABUTTING

11:28:32 PROPERTIES.

11:28:37 AND WHETHER THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS' ACCESS WILL

11:28:39 BE DIMINISHED OR COMPLETELY CUT OFF.

11:28:44 WE WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE DOOR TO MR. ROSS SAMONS WHO

11:28:47 WILL PRESENT A PRESENTATION.

11:28:49 AND I WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

11:28:52 >>ROSS SAMONS: THANK YOU, ROSS SAMONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT

11:28:53 COORDINATION.

11:28:56 VAC-22-07.

11:28:59 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN,

11:29:09 PLEASE.

11:29:12 CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?

11:29:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

11:29:24 >> FILE NUMBER VAC-22-07.

11:29:27 APPLICANT NAME IS TIMONEY B. JOHNSON.

11:29:33 ADDRESS IS EAST IDA TREAT, 2603.

11:29:36 TO VACATE THE ALLEYWAY PORTION OF MARTIN LUTHER KING,

11:29:40 JR., WEST OF 26TH STREET AND EAST OF 27TH STREET.

11:29:43 THIS ALLEY WAS CREATED FOR SUBDIVISION PLAT AND LOCATED

11:29:47 IN EAST TAMPA, NORTH OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.

11:29:49 BOULEVARD.

11:29:53 THE APPLICATION WAS FILED ON JANUARY 8 OF 2022.

11:29:55 THE APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE

11:29:58 EAST AND WEST PORTION OF THE ALLEY THAT IS REQUESTING

11:30:02 TO BE VACATED.

11:30:08 THE REASONS IS AS FOLLOWS: CODE ENFORCEMENT SAY

11:30:10 RESPONSIBLE TO MAINTAIN THE ALEY.

11:30:14 I WILL MAINTAIN THE ALLEY IF I OWN HALF OF IT.

11:30:17 THE APPLICANT WANTS TO MAINTAIN AND OWN PROPERTY WITHIN

11:30:17 THE AREA.

11:30:20 WITHIN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.

11:30:23 NO EXISTING CODE VIOLATIONS ON THIS PROPERTY.

11:30:27 AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO VACATE EAT AND

11:30:31 WEST PORTION OF THE ALLEY 2603 EAST IDA STREET.

11:30:34 EXISTING IS 1980 SQUARE FEET.

11:30:39 THE ALLEY UNIMPROVED GRASS AND DOES NOT SHOW APPARENT

11:30:41 USE BY ABUTTING OWNERS.

11:30:44 A TREE BLOCKS THE ALLEY ON THE WEST END.

11:30:46 NO UTILITIES UTILIZE THE ALLEY AND NO EASEMENT

11:30:50 REGULATIONS ARE REQUIRED.

11:30:52 AND HERE IS THE AERIAL VIEW.

11:30:55 THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IN RED AND PROPOSED VACATING

11:31:01 REQUEST IN YELLOW.

11:31:10 HERE IS THE VACATING REQUEST IN RED WITHIN THE PLAT.

11:31:14 JUST AN OVERALL VIEW OF THE SENATORS.

11:31:17 THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING EAST FROM 26TH STREET.

11:31:21 THE ALLEY IS NOT IMPROVED.

11:31:25 THE APPLICANT'S PARCEL LOOKING SOUTH FROM IDA STREET.

11:31:29 THE NORTH AND SOUTH ALLEYWAY LOOKING NORTH FROM DR.

11:31:30 MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD AND NOT TO BE

11:31:36 VACATED.

11:31:41 NORTH AND SOUTH OF LOOKING FROM IDA STREET NOT TO BE

11:31:42 VACATED.

11:31:46 LOOKING AT WEST, NOT TO BE VACATED.

11:31:48 STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION OF THIS VACATING REQUEST BASED

11:31:53 ON RESPONSES RECEIVED FROM REVIEWING AGENCIES.

11:31:56 AND NO EASEMENT OR RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED.

11:32:00 THANK YOU.

11:32:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

11:32:02 SEEING NONE.

11:32:05 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 40?

11:32:05 YES, SIR.

11:32:07 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

11:32:12 >> TIMOTHY JOHNSON, I AM THE APPLICANT.

11:32:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

11:32:16 >> I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:32:19 MY RATIONALE.

11:32:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

11:32:22 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC?

11:32:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:32:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WIGGINTON.

11:32:29 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECOND BY

11:32:32 MIRANDA.

11:32:34 MR. GUDES, READ ITEM NUMBER 40.

11:32:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: VAC-22-07, FIRST READING

11:32:40 CONSIDERATION.

11:32:43 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,

11:32:46 CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING A RIGHT-OF-WAY

11:32:51 AND ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF IDA STREET, NORTH OF DR.

11:32:53 MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD, EAST OF 26TH STREET

11:32:57 AND WEST OF 27TH AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF THE NORTH

11:33:00 CAMPOBELLO, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,

11:33:03 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED

11:33:07 IN SECTION 2 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,

11:33:10 CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET

11:33:15 FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PROVIDING

11:33:19 FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:33:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND SECOND.

11:33:22 ROLL CALL.

11:33:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:33:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:33:26 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

11:33:27 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:33:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:33:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:33:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:33:33 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:33:36 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MAY 19,

11:33:41 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.

11:33:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:33:47 WE CAN NOT GO FOR OUR 1:30 BECAUSE IT IS NOT 1:30 YET.

11:33:48 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO NEW BUSINESS.

11:33:50 A COUPLE OF ITEMS.

11:33:54 MR. SHELBY, YOU HAVE A FEW ITEMS, AND THEN GO TO

11:33:55 COUNCILMEMBERS.

11:33:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TAKE UP NEW BUSINESS AT THIS TIME

11:33:59 RATHER THAN GO UP INTO STAFF REPORTS.

11:34:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EVERYONE COMFORTABLE WITH NEW

11:34:02 BUSINESS NOW.

11:34:04 WE CAN ALWAYS --

11:34:07 >>BILL CARLSON: I MAY HAVE SOME AT THE END.

11:34:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THE BULK.

11:34:14 MR. SHELBY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

11:34:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:34:20 SEPTEMBER 2022, PURSUANT TO CHANGES IN STATE STATUTE,

11:34:24 COUNCIL WAS REQUIRED TO HAVE LOCAL ELECTED OFFICER TO

11:34:26 THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

11:34:29 AND THAT POSITION IS NOW VACANT.

11:34:35 AND, THEREFORE, THE TERM IS REMAINING UNTIL SEPTEMBER

11:34:38 17 OF 2023.

11:34:41 SO COUNCIL NEEDS TO APPOINT SOMEBODY TO FILL THE

11:34:43 UNEXPIRED TERM.

11:34:46 AND UNDER THE -- UNDER THE CODE, THAT PERSON IS

11:34:49 PERMITTED TO CONTINUE IN THAT POSITION.

11:34:53 SO THEY WISH FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO FULL TERMS.

11:34:56 THE QUESTION, COUNCIL, IS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS

11:35:00 THIS NOW OR WOULD YOU RATHER DISCUSS THIS NEXT WEEK FOR

11:35:03 MAKING AN APPOINTMENT TO THAT BOARD.

11:35:05 AGAIN, IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

11:35:12 I COULD COME BACK COUNCIL COULD INDICATE WHO THEIR

11:35:15 CHOICE AND COME BACK WITH A RESOLUTION WITH THAT NAME.

11:35:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY NOMINATION WILL BE COUNCILWOMAN

11:35:18 HURTAK.

11:35:19 JUST MY OPINION.

11:35:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU CAN'T MAKE A MOTION.

11:35:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM JUST GIVING AN OPINION.

11:35:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

11:35:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'LL MAKE IT NOW.

11:35:28 SHE IS HERE.

11:35:30 IT IS OPEN.

11:35:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU INTERESTED.

11:35:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE FOR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO FILL

11:35:37 THAT SPACE.

11:35:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND

11:35:41 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A RESOLUTION TO

11:35:43 APPOINT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING

11:35:47 HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE LENGTH OF TERM THAT

11:35:48 YOU SPECIFY.

11:35:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

11:35:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

11:35:51 AYE.

11:35:52 OPPOSED.

11:35:53 I NEED --

11:35:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOR YOUR INFORMATION 100%, 7-0.

11:36:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UNANIMOUS VOTE.

11:36:03 MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DO A

11:36:06 15-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON MAY 19 TO DISCUSS THE UPDATED

11:36:10 SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.

11:36:13 I THINK IT WILL BE PUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING

11:36:14 9 A.M.

11:36:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:36:18 WHAT DAY, MAY 19?

11:36:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY 19, 15 MINUTES, PLANNING

11:36:23 COMMISSION TO DISCUSS THE UPDATED SINGLE-MEMBER

11:36:24 DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.

11:36:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I PROVIDED BACKUP MATERIAL.

11:36:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND

11:36:32 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA OPINION.

11:36:33 ALL IN FAVOR.

11:36:34 DID YOU MAKE THE MOTION?

11:36:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DID.

11:36:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WITHDRAW MY SECOND FOR --

11:36:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:36:45 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM OUR ATTORNEY CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE

11:36:48 REQUESTING TO PRESENT THE CITIZEN BOARD 2021 ANNUAL

11:36:51 REPORT ON MAY 5.

11:36:53 A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:36:54 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:36:55 ALL IN FAVOR.

11:37:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE IS A REQUEST IN THAT MEMO THAT

11:37:05 THE APPEARANCE BE SCHEDULED AT A TIME CERTAIN AT 9 A.M.

11:37:11 WITH THE REQUEST THAT THE CRB CHAIR AND TPD COORDINATOR

11:37:12 PRESENT.

11:37:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.

11:37:15 THE CLERK HAS THE CLARIFICATION.

11:37:19 IS THAT OKAY AS PART OF THE MOTION?

11:37:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES IT IS.

11:37:28 >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM NUMBER 1?

11:37:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:37:32 OKEY-DOKEY.

11:37:36 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANY NEW BUSINESS AT THIS TIME?

11:37:38 >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WILL TRY ONE OR

11:37:41 TWO AND RESERVE THE RIGHT TO DO SOME LATER.

11:37:45 ITEM NUMBER 51, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOTTEN A COPY OF

11:37:49 THIS RESOLUTION YET, BUT IT IS -- IT IS A RESOLUTION OF

11:37:52 THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA RECOGNIZING MAY

11:37:57 2022 AS OSTEOPOROSIS AWARENESS MONTH.

11:38:00 AND ENCOURAGING RESIDENTS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.

11:38:06 BONE HEALTH AND PREVENT OSTEOPOROSIS.

11:38:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON

11:38:12 AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:38:13 MOTION PASSES.

11:38:14 ANYTHING ELSE?

11:38:15 >>BILL CARLSON: ANOTHER ONE REAL FAST.

11:38:18 THE MAYOR HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY

11:38:22 AND TRANSPARENCY THE OTHER DAY AND I HAVE GOTTEN A LOT

11:38:23 OF FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT.

11:38:27 I THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE A DISCUSSION ABOUT -- I WOULD

11:38:30 LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT

11:38:38 ETHICS, TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE

11:38:41 SEPTEMBER 22 WORKSHOP TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT

11:38:46 IDEAS THEY HAVE TO IMPROVE THE CITY'S ETHICS AND OTHER

11:38:47 RULES.

11:38:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:38:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON

11:38:53 AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA THAT IS FOR THE

11:38:55 SECOND 22 WORKSHOP.

11:39:00 I DON'T SEE ANYTHING -- I GUESS ITEM NUMBER 1.

11:39:02 CARL CARLSON I PUT IT IN SEPTEMBER BECAUSE VACATIONS

11:39:04 ARE ABOUT TO START AND PEOPLE WILL BE OUT.

11:39:08 IT SEEMED TO BE THE BEST TIME HAVE EVERYBODY AROUND.

11:39:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:39:14 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:39:15 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:39:20 >>LUIS VIERA: ON THAT DAY I AM SEEING KISS MY SON ON

11:39:23 WEST PALM BEACH.

11:39:24 I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN.

11:39:26 YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT UP.

11:39:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MAY OR MAY NOT BE HERE.

11:39:31 >>BILL CARLSON: MAKE IT OCTOBER.

11:39:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MAY NOT BE HERE OPINION.

11:39:37 I WILL DEFINITELY DO THAT.

11:39:39 >>BILL CARLSON: OCTOBER 27.

11:39:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON

11:39:42 OCTOBER 27, 9 A.M.

11:39:46 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CHANGE THE DATE TO OCTOBER 27 FOR

11:39:52 THE ETHICS WORKSHOP THAT COUNCILMEMBER.

11:39:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN LIVE A LITTLE LONGER.

11:39:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

11:39:58 ALL IN FAVOR.

11:40:00 FOR OCTOBER 27.

11:40:05 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

11:40:08 >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL WAIT UNTIL LATER.

11:40:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:40:13 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

11:40:14 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:40:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE TO RESCHEDULE THE FIRE FIGHTER

11:40:22 OF THE QUARTER COMMENDATION TO OCTOBER 20, CITY COUNCIL

11:40:25 REGULAR SESSION 9 A.M.

11:40:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND

11:40:32 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:40:33 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:40:36 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING FOR ME.

11:40:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:40:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE BUDGET OFFICE ONCE AGAIN WILL

11:40:43 BE RECEIVING THE DISTINGUISHED BUDGET AWARD FOR THE --

11:40:45 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2022.

11:40:48 WOULD LIKE TO SCHEDULE THAT POSSIBLE FOR MAY 10.

11:40:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

11:40:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:40:52 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:40:54 ALL IN FAVOR.

11:40:55 ALL RIGHT.

11:40:58 THE ONLY MOTION I HAVE IS THAT WE TAKE A RECESS NOW

11:41:00 UNTIL 1:30 FOR LUNCH.

11:41:03 WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 1:30 FOR THE REST OF EVERYTHING

11:41:05 HERE.

11:41:09 BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS -- IS KNOWN TO COME BACK THEN.

11:41:12 SO MOTION TO RECESS UNTIL 1:30.

11:41:15 [GAVEL SOUNDING]



13:34:09 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

13:34:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

13:34:12 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.

13:34:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

13:34:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

13:34:17 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

13:34:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

13:34:20 ITEM NUMBER 20.

13:34:21 >>ROB ROSNER: GOOD AFTERNOON.

13:34:29 I APPRECIATE THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT 20 AND 21.

13:34:33 SO TODAY, WE BRING UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.

13:34:38 SO JUST WANTED TO OPEN WITH A SLIDE TO GIVE EVERYONE AN IDEA

13:34:42 OF THIS SCALE, IN WEST TAMPA, HOW CLOSE IT IS TO DOWNTOWN,

13:34:46 AND DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE MLK CENTER.

13:34:50 IN THE LOWER CORNER YOU WILL SEE KIND OF JUST A GRAPHIC OF

13:34:53 WHAT THE OVERALL PLANE IS, AND HERE TO HELP WITH THAT IN

13:34:58 DETAIL.




13:35:00 SO THIS PROJECT STARTED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, THE

13:35:04 ADMINISTRATION DECIDED TO PUT THIS OUT, AND DO A HOLISTIC

13:35:08 APPROACH OF DOING DEVELOPMENTS, SO WE DECIDED TO BE A MIXED

13:35:12 INCOME, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, AND WITH A STRONG ENGAGEMENT

13:35:16 WITH THE COMMUNITY.

13:35:17 SO WE ARE -- OCTOBER OF 2020.

13:35:21 WE RECEIVED SIX RESPONSES AND INTERVIEWED THE TOP THREE.

13:35:24 AND OUT OF THAT SELECTION PROCESS RELATED URBAN DEVELOPMENT

13:35:29 GROUP WAS SELECTED.

13:35:30 WE BEGAN NEGOTIATIONS IN THE SPRING OF 21, AND JUST

13:35:33 COMPLETED THOSE IN THE FIRST PORTION.

13:35:34 SO TODAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE CONSIDERATION OF TWO DIFFERENT

13:35:38 AGREEMENTS, A LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT AND A COMMUNITY

13:35:41 BENEFITS AGREEMENT.

13:35:43 SO JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE AGREEMENT.

13:35:48 THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS SUBMITTED HAD TWO FORMS OF

13:35:51 DISPOSITIONS.

13:35:53 THEY HAVE A 99 YEAR GROUND LEASE, AND A FOR SALE TOWNHOMES

13:36:01 PORTION, AND THEN RFP REQUIRED AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS

13:36:06 AGREEMENT, AND THIS WILL BE THE FIRST OFFICIAL ONE THAT WE

13:36:08 HAVE.

13:36:08 AND THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR THE

13:36:11 ENTIRE PROCESS.

13:36:13 IT COVERS ALL THE BENEFITS FROM THE PHYSICAL AMENITIES TO

13:36:16 THE LESS TANGIBLE ONES.




13:36:21 AND I'LL START WITH THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.

13:36:24 THE PROPOSAL OFFERED A IT 99 YEAR GROUND LEASE FOR THE

13:36:27 MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY.

13:36:29 IT HAS A TOWN HOME PORTION OF IT THAT HAS TO BE PAID IN FEE

13:36:34 SIMPLE.

13:36:35 THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE DONE IN FIVE PHASES.

13:36:37 TAKE ABOUT SIX YEARS TO GET COMPLETED.

13:36:41 AND WE HAVE 360 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE NEXT THREE ITEMS BEFORE

13:36:46 WE CAN CONTINUE.

13:36:47 AND THOSE THREE ITEMS ARE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY,

13:36:52 NEGOTIATION OF MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE AND RIVERWALK

13:36:55 IMPROVEMENTS AGREEMENT, WHICH IS PART OF THE BUILD GRANT,

13:37:00 AND THEN A PHASING AND TIMING PLAN FOR THE PROJECT.

13:37:03 THOSE WILL ALL COME BEFORE YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

13:37:07 NEXT WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.

13:37:12 THIS AGAIN IS REQUIRED BY THE RFP.

13:37:14 WE HAVE IT ALL IN CBA.

13:37:17 WE ENGAGE THE NEIGHBORHOODS INCLUDING THE WEST TAMPA CAC.

13:37:24 THOSE ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS ARE REQUIRED SO WE HAVE ALL THE

13:37:28 RIGHT THINGS.

13:37:29 AND THEN IT CONTAINS COMMITMENTS FOR THOSE PHYSICAL

13:37:32 IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS THE A AFFORDABILITY COMMITMENTS, THE

13:37:35 MINORITY PARTICIPATION AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITMENTS

13:37:39 AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITMENTS.

13:37:41 SO THOSE ARE THE OVERVIEW OF THE TWO DOCUMENTS THAT ARE




13:37:44 BEFORE YOU FOR ITEMS 20 AND 21.

13:37:47 I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WE MET RECENTLY WITH THE WEST TAMPA

13:37:52 CAC AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEK ON THE 12th.

13:37:55 THEY ASKED FOR SOME LAST MINUTE CHANGES WHICH WERE ALL

13:37:58 POSITIVE AND HELPFUL, AND THE CHARACTERIZED.

13:38:06 THIS NEXT SLIDE.

13:38:08 COUNCILMAN GUDES?

13:38:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN I LOOK AT 20 AND 21, IT DIDN'T STRIKE

13:38:14 ME TILL LAST NIGHT.

13:38:15 WHEN I LOOKED AT THE BOUNDARY, WE SAY NORTH OF SPRUCE.

13:38:20 IN MY MIND, I SEE THE SCHOOL, I SEE THE BASEBALL FIELD.

13:38:26 IS THAT ALL INCLUDED, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM INVOLVED IN THIS

13:38:28 PROCESS HERE?

13:38:30 >> JC PROPERTY OWNERS, AND YES, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE --

13:38:37 CORRECT.

13:38:38 THEY ARE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS BUT THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED

13:38:40 IN THIS DEAL.

13:38:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BECAUSE WHEN I HEAR NORTH OF SPRUCE, IT

13:38:48 GOES RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE THERE SO WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR MAP

13:38:52 I AM ADJUSTMENT WONDERING HOW IT COMES INTO PLAY HERE.

13:38:55 >> SO THE SIX ACRE PORTION OF THE SITE IS JUST NORTH OF JUST

13:38:59 ELEMENTARY, AND THE 12-ACRE SITE IS JUST NORTH OF THE MLK

13:39:03 CENTER.

13:39:04 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO BRING THE MAP UP.

13:39:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WE ARE SAYING IT'S BEHIND -- YOU HAVE




13:39:08 GOT TO TELL ME IT'S BEHIND THOSE ADJACENT PROPERTIES?

13:39:12 >> YES.

13:39:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU SAY NORTH OF SPRUCE?

13:39:14 >> YES.

13:39:15 THE SCHOOLS ARE ON SPRUCE.

13:39:16 THESE ARE NORTH OF THAT.

13:39:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

13:39:21 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION BACK UP,

13:39:26 PLEASE?

13:39:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME BACK TO THE MAP AT THE BEGINNING.

13:39:32 >> SO THE WEST RIVER DEVELOPMENT IS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE

13:39:39 BORDER TO SPRUCE ON THE SOUTH, THE SCHOOL JUST ON THE NORTH,

13:39:42 THE BASEBALL FIELDS THAT ARE THE SIX ACRE PORTION THAT ARE

13:39:46 JUST NORTH OF JUST ELEMENTARY, AND THEN THE OLD WATER SITE

13:39:51 THAT'S THERE IS UTILITIES, THAT IS THE OTHER --

13:39:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BUT THE BASEBALL FIELD IS CITY PROPERTY,

13:39:57 CORRECT?

13:39:58 >> CORRECT.

13:39:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S PART OF THIS DEAL?

13:40:00 >> YES.

13:40:01 SO WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IS THOSE 18 ACRES.

13:40:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THOSE ARE ALL CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES.

13:40:11 >> RIGHT.

13:40:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND MY FINAL QUESTION TO YOU, THE SCHOOL

13:40:15 DISTRICT, IT'S NOT PART OF --




13:40:17 >> NOT PART OF THIS.

13:40:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECONDLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I PUT THAT

13:40:21 COMMUNITY AGREEMENT FOR CRAs ON THE RECORD IS THE WEST

13:40:25 TAMPA CAC, THAT COMMUNITY IS SATISFIED WITH WHAT THEY WANT

13:40:30 TO SEE A PART OF THIS PROJECT FOR THE CRA?

13:40:36 >> YES.

13:40:36 WE HAVE MET WITH THEM THREE DIFFERENT TIMES, AND THEY WILL

13:40:38 BE INCLUDED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

13:40:40 AND AS I WAS MENTIONING A MOMENT AGO, WE MET WITH THEM JUST

13:40:44 AS A MATTER OF FACT LAST TUESDAY.

13:40:46 PREVIOUSLY.

13:40:48 SO THIS --

13:40:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A LOT CAN HAPPEN, SO THEY HAVE MET, THEY

13:40:55 ARE HAPPY, THEY GOT WHAT THEY WANT, APPARENTLY WHAT THEY

13:40:57 WANT FOR THIS PROJECT?

13:41:01 >>ROB ROSNER: CORRECT.

13:41:02 SO WE BROUGHT TO YOU A SUBSTITUTE SET OF AGREEMENTS THAT

13:41:05 INCLUDED THOSE LAST MINUTE CHANGES.

13:41:07 AND I WILL OUTLINED THOSE IF YOU DON'T MIND.

13:41:13 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION BEFORE YOU GET

13:41:15 INTO THAT?

13:41:16 I ASKED YOU THIS YESTERDAY, AND MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION FOR

13:41:18 YOU AND LEGAL.

13:41:19 YOU ANSWERED A LITTLE BIT YESTERDAY, BUT ALSO JUST FOR THE

13:41:22 PUBLIC'S SAKE, IF YOU ALL CAN ANSWER THIS.




13:41:25 AS I REMEMBER, THE MAYOR HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE LIKE MARCH

13:41:29 17th A YEAR AGO, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, TO ANNOUNCE

13:41:33 THE AWARDING OF THIS RFP.

13:41:36 BUT IN A YEAR AND A MONTH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT CITY

13:41:41 COUNCIL HAS VOTED ON THIS, RIGHT?

13:41:43 >>ROB ROSNER: CORRECT.

13:41:45 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE NO REQUIREMENT IN THE LAW THAT THE

13:41:48 CITY COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE THE AWARDING OF THE RFP BEFORE

13:41:51 WE GET TO THE CONTRACT STAGE?

13:41:55 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NICOLE TRAVIS.

13:41:58 ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.

13:42:01 THE ANSWER TO THAT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IS NO.

13:42:04 WHEN WE DO ISSUANCE OF THE RFP, WE DRAW THE RFP AND THE WAY

13:42:08 THE PROCESS IS LAID OUT AND ADMINISTRATOR DECISION IS MADE

13:42:12 BASED ON WHATEVER CRITERIA IS THE IN THE RFP, WHETHER IT'S

13:42:16 PROFESSIONAL, AND YOU HAVE A PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT REVIEWS

13:42:19 THAT, RANKS THEN THAT, AND ISSUE OF INTENT TO AWARD.

13:42:24 THEN WE ENTER INTO NEGOTIATION WITH THE TOP RANKED FIRM AND

13:42:28 THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH THE RELATED GROUP TO COME UP WITH A

13:42:31 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR DISPOSITION AGREEMENT THAT'S BEFORE

13:42:33 YOU TODAY.

13:42:34 SO THERE'S NO ACTION FOR THE BOARD.

13:42:36 THIS IS ACTUALLY YOUR PART IN THE PROCESS.

13:42:38 THE PREVIOUS PART OF THE PROCESS IS ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE

13:42:42 SIDE.




13:42:42 THIS IS NOW WHERE THIS BODY GETS TO APPROVE OR CONSIDER THE

13:42:46 PROPOSAL.

13:42:48 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.

13:42:48 IT JUST SEEMS -- MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS IN NEW

13:42:54 BUSINESS THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME INTERIM STEP.

13:42:58 THERE WAS A LOT OF CONTROVERSY HE OVER THE WAY THIS WAS

13:43:00 AWARDED, LOTS OF STORIES IN THE TIMES AND OTHER PLACES,

13:43:03 EDITORIALS, AND IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE BY

13:43:07 A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE IN THE LAST YEAR, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT

13:43:09 WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD IDEA TO GET SOME KIND OF INTERIM

13:43:12 APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL BEFORE WE GOT TO THIS POINT.

13:43:15 AND IF THE LAWS DON'T REQUIRE IT, MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT

13:43:19 WHETHER WE SHOULD DO IT OR NOT.

13:43:21 BUT FROM A PUBLIC POINT OF VIEW, I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN

13:43:25 A BETTER IDEA TO HAVE CONSENSUS BEFORE WE GOT TO THIS POINT,

13:43:29 BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY.

13:43:31 THANK YOU.

13:43:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:43:36 GO AHEAD.

13:43:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK A LOT OF EFFORT HAS BEEN PUT INTO

13:43:40 THE PROJECT.

13:43:41 AND I CAN SEE THAT.

13:43:43 BUT I SAID THIS MANY YEARS AGO IN 2019 WHEN I TALKED ABOUT

13:43:47 THE RFP PROCESS, AND THAT'S A PROCESS THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO

13:43:52 LOOK AT.




13:43:52 MAYBE NOT TODAY, BUT I THINK IN THE FUTURE.

13:43:55 MR. CARLSON, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL COUNCIL

13:44:00 BEING PART OF THAT RFP PROCESS.

13:44:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

13:44:04 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I WOULD LIKE FOR STAFF TO FINISH WITH THE

13:44:08 PRESENTATION AND THEN THE DEVELOPER TO COME UP AND DO A

13:44:10 PRESENTATION FOR COUNCIL, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE QUESTIONS AND

13:44:13 TALK ABOUT BOTH AGREEMENTS, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU.

13:44:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

13:44:17 GO AHEAD.

13:44:18 >>ROB ROSNER: AGAIN, ROB ROSNER, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC

13:44:22 OPPORTUNITY.

13:44:23 THE SUBSTITUTE DOCUMENTS INCLUDE THOSE ITEMS WHICH

13:44:27 INCLUDE -- INCLUDING ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDERS IN THE CBA

13:44:32 PROCESS, REVISED INCOME RESTRICTIONS FOR THE TOWNHOMES WHICH

13:44:35 WERE ORIGINALLY OFFERED AS NOT AFFORDABLE, BUT THEY ASKED IF

13:44:40 THEY COULD BE AFFORDABLE.

13:44:41 SO ONE OF THE ITEMS THERE IS TO INCREASE THAT TO 199% OF THE

13:44:46 AMI TO ALLOW THE DIFFERENTIATION OF THE TOWNHOMES.

13:44:49 AND THEN THE STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER AGREED TO THESE, SO WE

13:44:55 BROUGHT THOSE FORWARD AND SENT TO YOU EARLIER, AND THOSE

13:45:00 INCLUDE A NEW LDA, CBA, AND RESOLUTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH

13:45:05 IT.

13:45:05 ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT'S REFERENCED BY THIS IS THEIR PROPOSAL

13:45:08 AND THE PRESENTATION.




13:45:10 AND WE FOLLOWED -- FILED THAT WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE

13:45:14 AND WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THOSE

13:45:16 AS PART OF THE CONSIDERATION.

13:45:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY

13:45:22 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

13:45:25 ALL IN FAVOR?

13:45:26 ANY OPPOSED?

13:45:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK MR. ROSNER EXPLAIN ABOUT THE

13:45:32 SITUATION WITH THE AGREEMENT, THE 190%, I BELIEVE IT IS.

13:45:37 >>ROB ROSNER: 199.

13:45:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: EXPLAIN THAT IF YOU CAN AND TALK ABOUT

13:45:40 AFFORDABILITY, TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS.

13:45:44 >>ROB ROSNER: DURING THE RFP PROCESS WE HAD CERTAIN GOALS,

13:45:47 CERTAIN PERCENTAGES OF AMI FOR THE DIFFERENT

13:45:49 AFFORDABILITIES.

13:45:51 SO WE HAD A 50% AMI, 80%, 140% AMI.

13:45:56 THESE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

13:45:59 SO THE TOWNHOMES WERE NOT REQUIRED TO BE THAT.

13:46:03 THEY OFFERED THAT AS AN EXTRA AND IMPROVED THEIR PROPOSAL

13:46:06 DURING THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS.

13:46:08 THE WEST TAMPA FOLKS ASKED, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE THIS 15

13:46:11 YEAR AFFORDABILITY, CAN IT BE FOR A DIFFERENT RANGE INSTEAD

13:46:14 OF THE NORMAL 140?

13:46:17 SO BECAUSE R SINCE THAT WASN'T A REQUIREMENT AND IT WAS AN

13:46:19 EXTRA, THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA.




13:46:23 SO THE 199 WOULD HELP COVER THOSE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE

13:46:27 TEACHERS THAT ARE LIVING OR WORKING TOGETHER, AND MISS THE

13:46:32 140 AMI.

13:46:33 SO THEY WANTED TO HAVE THAT RANGE TO GIVE THAT TO THE

13:46:36 NEIGHBORS AND THE PEOPLE IN WEST TAMPA.

13:46:41 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, ONE MORE QUESTION WHILE WE HAVE YOU

13:46:45 UP, ROB.

13:46:47 THIS MORNING, I TALKED ABOUT THE TOTAL VALUE OF THIS

13:46:50 CONTRACT, AND I JUST GOT A COPY OF THAT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT

13:46:54 WHAT I REMEMBER IS THERE'S LIKE A TWO AND A HALF MILLION

13:46:57 DOLLAR PAYMENT AND THEN AFTER SOME CRITERIA LIKE ANOTHER TWO

13:46:59 AND A HALF MILLION AND THEN 15% RENT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

13:47:03 BUT YOU ALL MUST HAVE DONE SOME PROJECTIONS OVER THE 99

13:47:07 YEARS OF WHAT YOU THINK THE REVENUES ARE GOING TO BE TO THE

13:47:09 CITY.

13:47:11 AND THOSE NUMBERS CAN CHANGE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE

13:47:14 RENTAL RATES AND EVERYTHING ARE GOING TO BE.

13:47:16 BUT WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED REVENUES TO THE CITY?

13:47:20 BY THE WAY, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE 99 YEAR LEASE INSTEAD OF

13:47:23 SELLING IT OUTRIGHT.

13:47:24 I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

13:47:26 AND CAROL, I KNOW, PUSHED FOR IT.

13:47:29 IS THIS A $100 MILLION PROJECT FROM THE CITY REVENUE POINT

13:47:33 OF VIEW, OR 10 MILLION, ANY BALLPARK IDEA WHERE WE ARE?

13:47:37 >>ROB ROSNER: SO THE INITIAL OFFER WAS 2500 A UNIT.




13:47:41 WE HAVE 954 UNITS.

13:47:44 ASKED FOR 2.38 MILLION WAS OFFERED FOR THIS.

13:47:48 AND THAT WOULD COME AS EACH OF THE UNITS COME ON, THEY WOULD

13:47:52 COME UP AS A CAPITALIZED LEASE PAYMENT SO THEY PAY THAT UP

13:47:55 FRONT.

13:47:55 WE WOULD GET THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE

13:47:58 PROJECT.

13:47:59 THEN AFTER THAT, THOSE PHASES, THEY WOULD HAVE A NET CASH

13:48:03 FLOW, AND WE WOULD GET 12.5% OF THAT.

13:48:06 SO VERY SIMILAR TO PERCENTAGE RENT FOR A RESTAURANT.

13:48:11 SO THE IDEA IS THEY WOULD SAY THIS IS HOW MUCH OUR EXPENSES

13:48:14 ARE, THIS IS WHAT WE MADE IN REVENUE, GET 12.5 PERCENT --

13:48:19 >> YOU PROBABLY DID AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE CASH FLOW WOULD

13:48:22 BE TO THE CITY FOR THE 12.5 MILLION, AND MAYBE A PRESENT

13:48:26 VALUE OVER 30 YEARS OR SOMETHING?

13:48:30 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE DID TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT

13:48:33 PROJECTION IS BUT THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO KNOW WHAT THAT

13:48:36 NET CASH FLOW WOULD BE.

13:48:37 SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE IN THE MEMO THAT WAS SENT, YOU HAVE A

13:48:42 WRITE-UP FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT

13:48:45 THAT CASH VALUE WOULD BE AND THERE'S REALLY NO WAY FOR US TO

13:48:49 PREDICT WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD BE.

13:48:53 WE DON'T KNOW VACANCY RATES.

13:48:54 WE DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT OF WHAT THE MARKET WOULD BE AT THAT

13:48:56 TIME.




13:48:57 WE DON'T KNOW WHAT LOANS, FINANCING.

13:49:01 WE CAN'T ESTIMATE WHAT THAT NET CASH FLOW VALUE WOULD BE TO

13:49:04 BE ABLE TO ATTACH A VALUE TO THAT.

13:49:06 SO IN OUR MEMO, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS -- THERE IS

13:49:12 SOMETHING STATED FROM THE BUDGET REVENUE AND FINANCE OFFICE

13:49:17 TO ADDRESS THAT.

13:49:18 BUT THERE'S NO NUMBER TO THAT YET.

13:49:20 >>BILL CARLSON: THE DEVELOPER MUST HAVE THEIR OWN CASH FLOW

13:49:23 PROJECTION.

13:49:24 THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

13:49:26 AND YOU COULD DO --

13:49:29 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I'M SURE THEY DID A PRO FORMA IN ORDER TO

13:49:31 FIGURE OUT WHETHER THE PROJECT IS A VIABLE ONE OR NOT, AND

13:49:35 THAT'S A QUESTION THAT YOU CAN ASK THE DEVELOPER.

13:49:37 AGAIN, IF WE CAN FINISH OUR PRESENTATION AND THEN GET INTO

13:49:41 THE --

13:49:43 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST -- NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT, BUT WE

13:49:46 HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO THE TAXPAYERS AND IT'S A

13:49:50 99 YEAR LEASE AND IF WE SOLD THE PROPERTY OUTRIGHT WE WOULD

13:49:53 KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS.

13:49:54 AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S VARIABLE BUT YOU HAVE BEST CASE, WORSE

13:49:58 CASE, AN ECONOMIST PROJECTING IT AND YOU WOULDN'T HOLD

13:50:02 ANYBODY TO IT BUT WOULD HAVE A GENERAL IDEA WHAT IT WOULD

13:50:04 END UP BEING.

13:50:05 >> I CAN'T PROVIDE YOU ANY MORE DEFINITIVE INFORMATION,




13:50:10 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUT IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROPOSALS

13:50:13 THAT THE CITY RECEIVED THE THREE FINALISTS.

13:50:15 THIS WAS THE ONLY PROPOSAL WHERE THERE WAS AN OFFER TO

13:50:17 ACTUALLY PAY THE CITY FOR THE PROPERTY OR PROVIDE A LEASE

13:50:21 PAYMENT, AND ALSO THIS IS THE ONLY PROPOSAL THAT CAME

13:50:24 FORWARD WHERE THEY AGREED NOT TO SEEK FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE

13:50:27 FROM THE CRA FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

13:50:30 SO THAT WEIGHED INTO THE DECISION MAKING.

13:50:32 >>BILL CARLSON: BUT JUST A THOUGHT, NO WHERE, OUR BUDGET

13:50:38 DEPARTMENT DID NOT DO ANY PROJECTIONS AT ALL?

13:50:41 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THE BUDGET, THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE

13:50:47 IS ALL SPECULATION, BASED ON A NUMBER OF VARIABLES THAT WE

13:50:50 DON'T HAVE AT THIS TIME.

13:50:51 HOWEVER, IN THE RFP THAT IS RECORDED WITH THIS PROJECT, YOU

13:50:55 WILL NOTICE THAT THE RESPONDENT RELATED GROUP HAS ESTIMATED

13:50:59 OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT ABOUT 154 MILLION INVESTMENT IN

13:51:04 THE PROJECT.

13:51:04 WHAT THEIR NET CASH FLOW IS, WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE AGAIN

13:51:08 THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AVAILABLE VARIABLES THAT ARE UNKNOWN

13:51:10 TO US, THAT YOU CAN'T MATHEMATICALLY PUT OUT THAT EQUATION

13:51:14 RIGHT NOW.

13:51:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROGERO, YOU ARE ON.

13:51:22 >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOOD AFTERNOON.

13:51:25 CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

13:51:26 I WAS JUST GOING TO REITERATE THE COMMENTS THAT MS. TRAVIS




13:51:30 SAID.

13:51:30 THERE ARE JUST TOO MANY VARIABLES OVER A 99-YEAR PERIOD.

13:51:34 WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE -- (AUDIO DROP) AND THAT'S

13:51:41 WHY --

13:51:44 >>> THANK YOU.

13:51:46 WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION THEN.

13:51:49 >> I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE ALBERT MILE WITH THE RELATED

13:51:54 GROUP TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT AND THE CBA PROCESS THEY

13:51:57 WENT THROUGH AS A GROUP.

13:51:59 ALBERT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP, PLEASE?

13:52:01 >> THANK YOU.

13:52:14 [NO ENCODER]

13:52:39 -- PUBLIC HOUSING, WHAT USED TO BE THE OLD -- HOMES, JUST A

13:52:44 FEW BLOCKS TO THE SOUTH OF THE ROME YARDS DEVELOPMENT HERE

13:52:50 TODAY, AND IF YOU HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT AREA,

13:52:54 AND KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH TO DATE,

13:52:58 WHAT USED TO BE 800 UNITS OF PUBLIC HOUSING, THAT WAS BUILT

13:53:02 IN THE 1930s, IS NOW FULLY TRANSFORMED INTO WE HAVE

13:53:08 COMPLETED FOUR OF THE BUILDINGS, TAMPA HOUSING COMPLETED THE

13:53:12 FIFTH BUILDING, ABOUT TO FINISH OUR SIXTH BUILDING INCLUDING

13:53:16 THE RENOVATIONS, AND ALL THE BOULEVARD, WEST RIVER BOULEVARD

13:53:23 PROPERTIES, WE JUST RECENTLY -- AND THIS IS AN ENVIRONMENT

13:53:28 OF ESCALATING CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND RATES THAT WE KEEP

13:53:31 HEARING ABOUT.

13:53:33 WE JUST CLOSED ON THE NEXT 190-SOME ODD UNITS ON THE EASTERN




13:53:39 BLOCK SO WE CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT THAT PROJECT.

13:53:42 THAT IS A PROJECT THAT WHEN WE STARTED OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH

13:53:45 TAMPA HOUSING, AGAIN IT WAS 800 UNITS OF DEVELOPMENT AND

13:53:50 STRICTLY ALL PUBLIC HOUSING, ALL LOWER INCOME.

13:53:52 NOW AS WE GO THROUGH, WE ARE BUILDING A MIXED INCOME

13:53:56 COMMUNITY, AND IN ADDITION TO MARKET RATE.

13:53:59 THERE'S A MARKET RATE COMPONENT THAT'S GETTING READY TO

13:54:03 START IN THAT AREA, A HOME OWNERSHIP MUCH PART OF WEST

13:54:06 RIVER, GOING TO BE A BIG NATIONAL RETAIL STORY THAT'S COME

13:54:10 TO THE CORNER OF MAIN STREET AND NORTH BOULEVARD, SO WE ARE

13:54:17 BIG PROMOTERS OF MIXED INCOME.

13:54:19 I HEARD A LOT OF TALK EARLIER ABOUT THE CONCERNS OF RISING

13:54:25 RENTS, AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR FAMILIES.

13:54:29 I HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TOUCHING ON JOBS AND

13:54:36 WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE MIGHT BE FOR FOLKS COMING OUT OF

13:54:39 THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

13:54:41 SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT A COUPLE OF THINGS OF OUR PROPOSAL,

13:54:46 I THINK HE SAID IT RIGHT, THAT OUT OF THE PROPOSALS THAT YOU

13:54:51 RECEIVED, EVERYONE WAS SAYING WE ARE NOT WILLING TO HAVE ANY

13:54:56 TYPE OF SHARE OF REVENUES WITH THE CITY.

13:55:01 ACTUALLY QUITE THE CONTRARY, THEY WERE ALL ASKING FOR

13:55:04 RESOURCE SOURCES FROM THE CITY.

13:55:06 UNLIKE OURS, WE SPECIALIZE IN PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.

13:55:10 WE HAVE DONE IN EXCESS OF A BILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS OVER

13:55:12 THE LAST FIVE, SIX YEARS.




13:55:14 WE HAVE THESE TYPE OF PARTNERSHIPS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

13:55:18 AND ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE DO, AS WE WANT TO MAKE

13:55:21 SURE THAT OUR PUBLIC PARTNER SHARES IN THE UP-SIDE OF OUR

13:55:26 DEVELOPMENTS.

13:55:26 AND WE DO HAVE A REVENUE SHARE PROJECTED AND THAT'S WHY WE

13:55:31 PROFFERED THAT.

13:55:33 SO IN ADDITION TO THE CAPITALIZE STATEMENT, WHERE -- GET

13:55:38 PAID UP FRONT AT THE FINANCIAL CLOSING OF EVERY DEAL, WE

13:55:41 PROFIT, 12½ CASH FLOW PARTICIPATION, THE ESTIMATE IS OVER

13:55:46 $120 MILLION OVER THE BUILD-OUT OF THE PHASES AND THE

13:55:50 BUILD-OUT OF THE PROJECT.

13:55:51 ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON,

13:55:55 WHY WE PROFFER LAND LEASES IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE

13:56:00 AS PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS, RATHER THAN A FEE SIMPLE

13:56:10 TRANSACTION TO SAY WE GIVE YOU A CHECK AT CLOSING AND WE

13:56:14 STRUCTURE THE DEALS AS LONG-TERM LEASES AND PROVIDE THAT

13:56:17 REVENUE STREAM TO OUR PUBLIC PARTNERS.

13:56:20 A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT POINTS THAT I THINK -- AND YOU HEARD A

13:56:25 LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM BEFORE WITH SOME OF OUR TEAM

13:56:27 MEMBERS -- IS THE FACT THAT WE FOCUS HEAVILY ON COMMUNITY

13:56:32 ENGAGEMENT.

13:56:33 WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF EXPERTISE, WE DO HAVE

13:56:38 A LOT OF FINANCIAL CAPACITY, WE HAVE THE BEST DESIGN

13:56:43 PROFESSIONALS, ALWAYS WORKING WITH US.

13:56:46 HOWEVER, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T JUST COME AND IMPOSE




13:56:52 OUR WILL IN THESE COMMUNITIES.

13:56:53 IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE DO ON A COLLABORATIVE

13:56:56 BASIS.

13:56:57 THAT'S WHY THE RFP HAS BEEN OVER A YEAR.

13:57:00 SO IT HASN'T COME TO THIS COUNCIL BEFORE.

13:57:02 WHY?

13:57:03 BECAUSE WE TOOK THAT TIME ALONG WITH YOUR CITY STAFF TO HAVE

13:57:06 THOSE OUTREACH MEETINGS, TO HAVE THAT DIALOGUE WITH THE

13:57:08 COMMUNITY, TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE NEEDS, AND THERE MAY BE

13:57:12 THINGS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE PROPOSED THAT THEY LIKED AND A LOT

13:57:14 OF GOOD THINGS THAT WE PROPOSED THAT THEY DISLIKED.

13:57:18 AND AS ROB MENTIONED, JUST AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEK, THE

13:57:21 COMMUNITY HAD SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, AND THAT WAS A GOOD

13:57:24 POINT ON THE HOME OWNERSHIP SIDE, THE 140 IS WORKFORCE.

13:57:29 THE QUESTION WAS, HOW ABOUT IF YOU HAVE TWO TEACHERS, RIGHT?

13:57:32 THEY ARE GOING TO EXCEED THAT 140% OF AMI LEVELS.

13:57:36 HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT?

13:57:38 AND THAT'S WHY YOU SAW ONE OF THOSE CHANGES AS RELATES TO

13:57:40 HOME OWNERSHIP COMPONENT.

13:57:42 SO WE HAVE A MIX OF AFFORDABILITY IN OUR PROPOSAL.

13:57:47 WE ARE PROPOSING TO FINANCE THESE AS 80-20 TAX EXEMPT BOND

13:57:51 TRANSACTIONS.

13:57:52 THAT'S FUNDING THAT'S READILY AVAILABLE AS OF RIGHT.

13:57:55 WE WILL BE APPLYING TO THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HFA, WE

13:58:01 FINANCED MANY OF THOSE DEALS ALREADY ON WEST RIVER LIKE




13:58:03 THAT, SO UNLIKE SOME OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT

13:58:07 ARE STRICTLY LOTTERY BASED, OUR PROPOSAL IS NOT BASED ON

13:58:10 THAT.

13:58:11 THAT'S WHY WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER A PROJECT THAT CAN MOVE

13:58:16 FORWARD.

13:58:16 OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME STEPS THAT STILL NEED TO HAPPEN,

13:58:18 ZONING AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE AGREEMENT AND THOSE THINGS

13:58:21 THAT WILL EVENTUALLY COME BACK TO THIS COUNCIL.

13:58:24 BUT IT'S NOT CONTINGENT UPON SOME TYPE OF LATH LOTTERY BASED

13:58:28 ON THAT SIDE.

13:58:29 AND AGAIN IT'S A MIXED INCOME APPROACH.

13:58:31 THOSE TAX EXEMPT BONDS REQUIRE 20% OF THE PROJECT TO BE SET

13:58:35 ASIDE FOR 50 PERCENT OF THEIR MEDIAN INCOME SO ALL PHASES

13:58:39 WILL HAVE A 50% AMI WHICH IS CATEGORIZED AS LOW INCOME.

13:58:45 WE HAVE ANOTHER 10% OF THE PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE 80% OF

13:58:49 MEDIAN INCOME WHICH IS CATEGORIZED ON THE LOW-INCOME

13:58:53 CATEGORY.

13:58:53 WE HAVE A 40% UP TO 140 PERCENT, IN THAT RANGE BETWEEN 80

13:58:59 AND 140, THAT WORKFORCE BRACKET.

13:59:02 THEN WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE A 30% BRACKET WHICH IS MARKET RATE

13:59:05 UNRESTRICTED.

13:59:06 AND THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE GOING TO

13:59:09 BUILD A PROJECT, AND WITH ALL AMENITIES AND ALL OF THESE

13:59:13 DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT SOMEONE THAT IS WILLING TO PAY FULL

13:59:19 MARKET RATE IS SAYING, THAT'S A COMMUNITY THAT I WANT TO




13:59:23 LIVE IN, BUT ALSO IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF UNIT WITH THE SAME

13:59:26 AMENITIES AND THE SAME ACCESS FOR SOMEONE THAT'S AT A 50% OF

13:59:31 MEDIAN INCOME SPECTRUM.

13:59:32 SO IT WILL ADDRESS A LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS THAT I HEARD

13:59:35 EARLIER TODAY FROM THE PUBLIC AS FAR AS, HEY, EITHER MY

13:59:38 NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN GENTRIFIED AND NOW THEREFORE THERE'S

13:59:42 MARKET FORCES AT WORK THAT ARE PUSHING ME OUT OF MY

13:59:45 NEIGHBORHOOD.

13:59:45 I STILL WANT TO REMAIN HERE.

13:59:47 OR CONVERSELY, YES, WE WANT TO BRING THAT BUT WE ALSO WANT

13:59:50 TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT KIND OF INCOME

13:59:53 DIVERSITY.

13:59:54 THAT'S HOW WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE OUR PROJECTS FEASIBLE.

13:59:56 THAT'S AN APPROACH THAT WE HAVE APPLIED MANY TIMES AND R IN

14:00:00 MANY MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

14:00:02 SO THAT IS A BIG BENEFIT LONG-TERM, NOT JUST FOR THE

14:00:07 COMMUNITY BUT ALSO FOR OUR PUBLIC PARTNERS.

14:00:11 A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY ASSETS THAT WE ARE BUILDING, WE ARE

14:00:14 GOING TO BE BUILDING A CULTURAL CENTER.

14:00:16 THAT'S PART OF OUR AGREEMENT.

14:00:19 WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING A WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER AS

14:00:22 PART OF OUR REDEVELOPMENT, ALONG WITH NUMEROUS OTHER

14:00:27 AMENITIES AND ACTIVITY, AND PETER WILL TOUCH A LITTLE BIT

14:00:31 UPON THOSE.

14:00:32 BUT TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE ARE THE FIRST




14:00:37 DEVELOPER IN TO PROFFER A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT IN

14:00:43 ONE OF OUR DEALS.

14:00:44 THE REASON WHY WE DID THAT IS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO DOCUMENT

14:00:47 THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE.

14:00:50 SO HOW DO WE DO THAT IS AFTER THESE SESSIONS AND AFTER THESE

14:00:54 MEETINGS, WE ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE, PUT THAT IN WRITING,

14:00:59 AND THAT BECOMES OUR PLAYBOOK AS WE EXECUTE THESE

14:01:02 DEVELOPMENTS.

14:01:03 WE WORKED WITH YOUR STAFF, AND AS MENTIONED, IT'S NOT JUST

14:01:08 THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.

14:01:09 THERE'S A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT ATTACHED TO THIS

14:01:13 PIECE, AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR -- LIKE MR. ROBINSON SAY, FOR A

14:01:22 LONG TIME THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR THAT, THAT WE

14:01:25 WILL BE ABLE TO NOW BE ONCE AGAIN THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT

14:01:28 COMPANY TO BE ABLE TO WORK FROM A DOCUMENTED, WRITTEN

14:01:34 COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.

14:01:35 AND THEN A COUPLE OF OTHER MAJOR POINTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO

14:01:39 TOUCH UPON, A LOCAL HIRING PIECE, WE HAVE COMMITTED TO 20%

14:01:43 OF LOCAL HIRING AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

14:01:45 AGAIN, IT WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION EARLIER, AND I KNOW

14:01:52 COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS, THE PROGRAM TO TRY

14:01:55 TO DO AN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM TO ADDRESS FOLKS COME OUT OF

14:01:59 THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

14:02:01 I WILL TELL YOU THAT'S ANOTHER INITIATIVE THAT WE ADOPTED

14:02:04 FIRST IN OUR LIBERTY SQUARE REDEVELOPMENT, MIAMI-DADE




14:02:08 COUNTY.

14:02:09 LIKE OTHER PRIVATE COMPANIES, AT THE TIME, WHEN THAT

14:02:13 HAPPENED, ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, WE HAD OUR OWN SETS OF

14:02:17 APPREHENSIONS, RIGHT?

14:02:19 THERE WAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL PITFALLS ON THAT.

14:02:24 BUT I WILL TELL YOU TODAY THAT WE MADE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO

14:02:31 HIRE NOT JUST LOCAL HIRES BUT TO HIRE FOLKS COMING OUT OF

14:02:36 THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND PROBABLY THAT IS THE MOST

14:02:41 IMPACTFUL THING THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO AS PART OF OUR

14:02:44 REDEVELOPMENT.

14:02:45 YES, WE HAVE BUILT HOUSING AND YES, WE HAVE GOT PEOPLE

14:02:48 LIVING IN BRAND NEW JUST LIKE WE ARE DOING ON WEST RIVER,

14:02:51 BUT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IMPACT THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO

14:02:53 MAKE WITH THAT OUTREACH AND THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN

14:02:56 SUBSTANTIAL.

14:02:57 SO I WANT TO APPLAUD THIS COUNCIL FOR HAVING THAT PROACTIVE

14:03:01 APPROACH TO THINK ABOUT THOSE ISSUES.

14:03:03 I CAN TELL YOU FIRSTHAND, I WAS A BUSINESS OWNER, THAT IT

14:03:06 WORKS.

14:03:06 IT WORKS.

14:03:07 WE HAVE TAKEN FOLKS THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE BACK TO THE

14:03:11 CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND NOW THEY HAVE NOT A JOB, IT'S

14:03:15 NOT A JOB, IT'S A CAREER, BECAUSE THEY HAVE LEARNED THE

14:03:18 OPPORTUNITY, THEY HAVE LEARNED THE TRADE NOW, AND THEY ARE

14:03:21 NOT JUST WORKING IN THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE, THEY HAVE




14:03:27 ACTUALLY BEEN PERMANENTLY HIRED WITH SUBCONTRACTORS AND NOW

14:03:31 HAVE A CAREER FOR THEIR FUTURE AND TO FEED THEMSELVES

14:03:33 LONG-TERM.

14:03:34 SO THOSE PROGRAMS WORK.

14:03:35 I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD

14:03:40 CONTINUE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT AND PUSH FORWARD, AND WE

14:03:43 WILL GLADLY ALSO WORK ALONGSIDE OF YOU TO HELP PROMOTE THAT.

14:03:48 AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE IS CONTRARY TO SMALL BUSINESSES,

14:03:52 ARE WE COMMITTED TO 40% OF THAT TO SMALL.

14:03:56 40% OF THE VALUE OF OUR CONTRACTS TO GO TO SMALL AND

14:03:59 MINORITY CERTIFIED BUSINESSES.

14:04:00 WE KNOW THAT SMALL BUSINESSES AND MINORITY BUSINESSES HIRE

14:04:04 LOCALLY.

14:04:04 THAT'S A PROVEN FACT.

14:04:05 SO WE WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT YOU DON'T

14:04:11 WANT TO -- THE WORST THING YOU CAN HAVE IS THESE TYPE

14:04:15 REDEVELOPMENTS WHERE YOU ARE BUILDING AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD

14:04:17 IS KIND OF ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, NOT PARTICIPATING IN

14:04:20 THAT REBUILDING FROM THEIR OWN COMMUNITY.

14:04:22 THAT'S WHY WE MADE THAT COMMITMENT.

14:04:24 YOU KNOW, IT PROBABLY EXCEEDS ANYTHING THAT THE CITY OF

14:04:27 TAMPA HAS SEEN BEFORE, AND SOME OF THE CONTRACTS, ELECTRICS,

14:04:36 WE HAVE HAD THOSE BEFORE AND WE EXCEEDED THEM.

14:04:41 SO I JUST THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO WORK

14:04:43 ALONGSIDE YOU AS THE PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNER, AND WE KNOW




14:04:47 THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO BE BRING THE SAME TYPE OF SUCCESS

14:04:50 THAT WE HAVE HAD IN WEST RIVER ALONGSIDE THE CITY NOW WITH

14:04:55 THE DEVELOPMENT.

14:04:56 SO I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO PETER VAN WARREN.

14:05:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A QUESTION.

14:05:03 AGAIN, I HAVE BEEN DOWN TO MIAMI.

14:05:05 MY FAMILY IS DOWN THERE.

14:05:07 I KNOW LIBERTY CITY PROJECT SO I GET IT.

14:05:10 FOR ME IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THAT COMMUNITY -- NO DOUBT.

14:05:18 FOR ME IS MAKING SURE THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE TO COME BACK,

14:05:21 BE ABLE TO WORK.

14:05:23 SO DO WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLAY, OR STAFF HAVE A SYSTEM IN

14:05:27 PLAY TO MONITOR AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE MINORITIES ARE

14:05:30 GETTING A CHANCE TO BE ON THOSE JOB SITES, THAT COUNCIL CAN

14:05:34 BE GETTING UPDATES AND KNOW THE PERCENT OF PEOPLE THAT

14:05:38 WORKING ON THE PROJECT, TO SAY WE HAVE ACTUAL PEOPLE WORKING

14:05:41 ON THE PROJECT THAT LOOK LIKE ME, OR HISPANIC, AND MAKING

14:05:45 SURE THAT WE HAVE MEETING THOSE GOALS SO I DON'T GET CALLS,

14:05:50 WE DIDN'T GET NO WORK.

14:05:51 THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

14:05:52 NUMBER TWO, WE TALK ABOUT THE RETAIL, MAKING SURE, HOW DO WE

14:05:58 KNOW WHAT KIND OF GOALS ARE SET, OR WHAT IS THE CITY PORTION

14:06:02 THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE IN THAT LOW INCOME BRACKET

14:06:06 TO BE ABLE TO MAYBE HAVE A SALON IN THAT RETAIL SPACE, TO BE

14:06:10 ABLE TO WORK THERE AS WELL?




14:06:12 >> SO EXCELLENT POINTS, AND TWO-FOLD.

14:06:18 WE HAVE MONITORED PROVISIONS IN THE AGREEMENT, SO WE WILL BE

14:06:22 DOING REGULAR MONITORING, REPORTING, TO THE CITY, AND THAT

14:06:28 REPORTING WILL BE BROUGHT FORTH THROUGH YOUR NORMAL CHANNELS

14:06:33 TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE COMMITMENTS.

14:06:35 SO THAT'S IN THE AGREEMENT.

14:06:36 I CAN TELL YOU THAT.

14:06:37 BUT ON YOUR SECOND POINT, WHICH IS AN EXCELLENT POINT, AND I

14:06:41 FORGOT TO TOUCH ON IT, WE HAVE AGREED ALSO TO SET ASIDE 10%

14:06:44 OF OUR RETAIL SPACE FOR LOCAL AREA BUSINESSES, AND THAT'S

14:06:49 ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT POINT THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO

14:06:52 ADDRESS IN SOME OF OUR OTHER REDEVELOPMENTS, BECAUSE A LOT

14:06:55 OF TIMES YOU HEAR, SAY, WELL, WE HAVE 50,000 SQUARE FEET OF

14:07:00 RETAIL, AND THAT'S GREAT, THAT BRINGS JOBS AND ECONOMIC

14:07:03 DEVELOPMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WHAT HAPPENS, IT'S ALSO

14:07:05 DEPENDENT ON HOW YOU BREAK UP RETAIL, BECAUSE THAT 50,000

14:07:09 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, AND I HAVE TWO TENANTS OF -- WE ARE

14:07:14 BRINGING A PUBLIX TO WEST RIVER, SO THAT'S A GREAT THING FOR

14:07:17 THE AREA.

14:07:18 BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT YOU JUST

14:07:20 RAISED ABOUT HAVING A LOCAL BUSINESS HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY

14:07:22 TO START THEIR BUSINESS.

14:07:24 SO WE ALWAYS WANT TO FOCUS ON SOME OF THAT PIECE AND HAVE

14:07:28 WHAT WE CALL MICRORETAIL, BECAUSE IF WE CAN BREAK THAT UP

14:07:31 INTO SMALLER PIECES, THEN IT'S AN AFFORDABLE RENT THAT




14:07:35 SOMEONE COULD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD START THEIR OWN BUSINESS

14:07:37 IN A NEW SPACE THAT'S MARKETABLE AND ALLOWS THEM TO GROW.

14:07:40 SO YES, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT'S IN OUR AGREEMENT, AND I

14:07:43 FORGOT TO TOUCH ON IT.

14:07:44 SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

14:07:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I APPRECIATE IT.

14:07:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS INFORMATION,

14:07:55 ESPECIALLY ON DIVERSITY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

14:08:00 COME ON BACK.

14:08:01 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: HE'S COMING BACK.

14:08:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOWEVER, IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS

14:08:08 DIVERSITY IN HOUSING, DIVERSITY WHILE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING

14:08:14 ON.

14:08:15 AND I APPLAUD YOU AS BRINGING IN AS MANY BLACK OWNED

14:08:18 BUSINESSES, CONSTRUCTION BUSINESSES, BUT I WANT TO FOCUS ON

14:08:22 THE APPRENTICESHIP WHICH OUR COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA HAS

14:08:29 CHAMPIONED.

14:08:29 I AM HOPING YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S STATE

14:08:32 APPROVED APPRENTICESHIP, NUMBER ONE.

14:08:34 NUMBER TWO, AND I AM HOPING THAT WITHIN THAT APPRENTICESHIP

14:08:37 PROGRAM, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THE WMBEs, THE

14:08:43 BLACK-OWNED -- THE MINORITIES, YOU KNOW, AND THE SAME SCALE.

14:08:49 WITHIN THAT APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.

14:08:51 AND THIS IS JUST AN ASK BUT I AM HOPING IT WILL BE ACHIEVED

14:08:54 DURING THIS.




14:08:55 IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE DIVERSITY IN HOUSING, LET'S HOPE WE

14:08:58 HAVE DIVERSITY IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT.

14:09:01 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT IN ONE OF YOUR POWERPOINT

14:09:07 PRESENTATIONS YOU HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE

14:09:10 CHARGING STATIONS.

14:09:11 THANK YOU.

14:09:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN --

14:09:18 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: MAY I ANSWER JUST A QUESTION?

14:09:24 IN THE AGREEMENTS THAT'S BEFORE YOU THERE ARE A COUPLE OF

14:09:26 THINGS.

14:09:27 COUNCILMAN GUDES BROUGHT UP THE REPORTING OF MINORITY

14:09:30 PARTICIPATION, AND THE SET-ASIDE.

14:09:34 THOSE ARE CODIFIED IN THE AGREEMENTS THAT'S BEFORE YOU.

14:09:37 AND COUNCILMAN CITRO, AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THAT THE

14:09:42 APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS

14:09:44 CODIFIED IN THE AGREEMENT AS WELL TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S

14:09:47 APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM, AND THAT'S BUILT INTO THE AGREEMENT.

14:09:50 AND JUST TO TOUCH, I THINK AT THE BEGINNING OF COUNCILMAN

14:09:54 GUDES' COMMENTS, IN THE AGREEMENT, AND THE SUBSEQUENT PLAN

14:10:03 THAT WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL, THERE ARE MILESTONES IN THE

14:10:06 COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THAT

14:10:08 AGREEMENT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ALL AT THE END OF THE PROJECT.

14:10:12 THEY ARE INCREMENTAL IN ORDER FOR THEM TO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER

14:10:15 PART OF THEIR PHASE.

14:10:17 THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS




14:10:19 AGREEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO ACHIEVE AND COMPLETE BEFORE

14:10:22 MOVING ONTO THE OTHER PHASE.

14:10:23 SO WE HAVE BUILT IN THOSE CHECKS AND BALANCES THROUGHOUT THE

14:10:27 PROJECT, AND DETERMINING IF THE PLAN WILL COME BACK BEFORE

14:10:31 COUNCIL.

14:10:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.

14:10:35 BUT I AM HOPING THAT LOOKING RIGHT NOW, I CAN SAY, ARE

14:10:39 THESE -- I AM HOPING THAT THESE ARE GOING TO BE

14:10:41 STATE-APPROVED APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS.

14:10:44 AND THOSE APPRENTICES WILL BE SPREAD OUT ACROSS THE SPECTRUM

14:10:49 OF DIVERSITY.

14:10:50 >> YES, SO THAT'S ANOTHER EXCELLENT POINT.

14:10:54 JUST AS I TOUCHED UPON EARLIER, WHEN WE INTRODUCED THIS

14:10:55 PROGRAM FOR THE FOLKS COMING OUT OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE

14:10:55 SYSTEM, A LOT OF TIMES THE PROGRAM RULES ARE NOT SET UP TO

14:10:55 HELP THIS POPULATION.

14:11:17 UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

14:11:21 BECAUSE MOST OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE UNSKILLED.

14:11:25 SO IN THE CASE OF HUD PROJECTS, YOU HAVE THESE RULES.

14:11:31 TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THOSE RULES,

14:11:34 WE WENT AND WE GOT OUR OWN STATE CERTIFIED BY THE STATE

14:11:37 DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, RELATED

14:11:41 URBAN HAS ITS OWN SO WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK ALONGSIDE YOUR

14:11:46 PROGRAM TO, SO WE HAVE KIND OF CUT OUR TEETH, IF YOU WILL,

14:11:52 WITH SOME OF THE PITFALLS OF GETTING IT APPROVED, BUT WE




14:11:55 KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO DO IT.

14:11:57 AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT WORKS.

14:11:58 SO WE WILL DEFINITELY BE STATE CERTIFIED, BECAUSE IT'S NOT

14:12:03 JUST -- IT DOESN'T JUST HAVE AN ON-THE-JOB TRAINING PIECE.

14:12:07 THAT'S PART OF IT, WHERE THEY GET, YOU KNOW, THE INCOME

14:12:10 SIDE.

14:12:10 THERE'S ALSO A REQUIRED CLASSROOM COMPONENT.

14:12:13 SO AT THE END OF 3 OR 4-YEAR PERIOD, THEY HAVE A

14:12:17 CERTIFICATION.

14:12:18 AGAIN THAT'S WHY I SAY, WE DON'T REFERENCE THIS AS A JOB.

14:12:21 WE REFERENCE THIS AS A CAREER.

14:12:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

14:12:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

14:12:28 JUST TO PUT DOWN WHAT WE DISCUSSED A LITTLE EARLIER, YOU ARE

14:12:30 GOING TO HAVE TO 954 UNITS, IS THAT RIGHT, OF WHICH 185

14:12:35 UNITS ARE TO BE AT 50 PERCENT AMI AND WHICH 94 UNITS WILL BE

14:12:39 80% OF AMI AND WHICH 368 UNITS, 100% AMI.

14:12:48 954, THAT MEANS YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE 647 UNDER SOMEBODY

14:12:51 FORM OF AMI.

14:12:52 YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE, WHAT, 307 UNITS LEFT AT MARKET RATE,

14:12:56 I GUESS.

14:12:57 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

14:12:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG WITH THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE

14:13:00 ALMOST 30,000 FEET OF COMMERCIAL IN THE WHOLE UNIT.

14:13:07 AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE 3,761 FEET WHERE THE WEST TAMPA




14:13:12 CULTURAL CENTER.

14:13:13 AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE ROUGHLY 19,744 FEET OF SOME TYPE

14:13:17 OF COMMUNITY BENEFIT AREA.

14:13:22 AND ALONG WITH THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE -- COUNCIL WAS

14:13:25 DISCUSSING THE APPRENTICE PROGRAM WHICH IS NEEDED IN MANY

14:13:28 WAYS, AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE OUT OF THAT, YOU ARE GOING

14:13:32 TO HAVE REALLY 307 UNITS LEFT AT MARKET RATE.

14:13:36 THAT'S HOW I SUM THE PROGRAM UP.

14:13:38 IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 16, 135, THAT TALKS ABOUT THE RIVERWALK

14:13:42 AND SO FORTH.

14:13:43 YOU HAVE ANOTHER SEPARATE AGREEMENT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO

14:13:45 HAVE WITH THE CITY.

14:13:45 AM I CORRECT?

14:13:46 >> YES, SIR.

14:13:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S CORRECT.

14:13:48 I RESERVE MY TIME FOR LATER.

14:13:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

14:13:54 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU TO YOUR SISTER AND BROTHER

14:13:57 COMPANIES FOR ALL THE INVESTMENT YOU HAVE MADE IN TAMPA.

14:14:01 YOU ALL HAVE GOT A HUGE FOOTPRINT IN TAMPA NOW IN LOTS OF

14:14:06 DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGH ALL YOUR DIFFERENT COMPANIES.

14:14:08 THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND THANK YOU OBVIOUSLY FOR THE

14:14:10 INVESTMENT OF TIME YOU HAVE MADE, EVERYTHING YOU ARE TALKING

14:14:12 ABOUT NOW SHOWS YOU HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THE

14:14:15 COMMUNITY AND SOME DEVELOPERS WILL WALK IN AND KIND OF SAY




14:14:20 BULLIED THEM TO ACCEPTING, AND YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME, SO

14:14:25 WE ALL APPRECIATE THAT.

14:14:26 THANKS ALSO TO YOUR COLLEAGUES FOR INVESTING IN THE ARTS.

14:14:29 I KNOW YOU INVEST IN ARTS WHEREVER YOU GO.

14:14:31 YOU HAVEN'T MENTIONED THAT YET.

14:14:32 BUT ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD NOW, I KNOW THERE'S MORE TO COME.

14:14:37 I JUST HAD A CLARIFYING QUESTION.

14:14:40 WAS IT 128 MILLION YOU MENTIONED?

14:14:43 THAT'S THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE, OR

14:14:45 THAT'S THE 12.5% OVER 99 YEARS?

14:14:48 >> THAT'S THE 12.5%.

14:14:50 THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT IS GOING TO EXCEED $400 MILLION.

14:14:53 AT THE TIME OF THE RFP IT WAS 390 MILLION, THE COST COSTS

14:14:58 HAVE INCREASED A LOT SO IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN EXCESS,

14:15:01 PROBABLY AT THIS POINT, IN EXCESS OF 500 MILLION IN ECONOMIC

14:15:04 DEVELOPMENT, AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

14:15:07 BUT OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT, THE 12.5% CASH FLOW

14:15:11 COMPONENT IS PROBABLY GOING TO EXCEED $120 MILLION.

14:15:16 ONCE THE PROJECT IS ALL BUILT OUT.

14:15:18 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.

14:15:18 I APPRECIATE YOU THROWING OUT THAT NUMBER.

14:15:20 AND SOUNDS LIKE FROM THE OTHER RFPs YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE

14:15:24 THAT OFFERED THAT SO THAT WILL HELP THE CITY TO DO MANY

14:15:27 OTHER THINGS.

14:15:27 ARE THERE ANY PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS INCLUDED IN THIS, OR




14:15:32 ARE YOU ALL GOING TO BE PAYING PROPERTY TAX?

14:15:37 >> THAT'S JUST CASH FLOW PARTICIPATION.

14:15:40 TAX IS IN ADDITION.

14:15:41 >>BILL CARLSON: SO IN THE 400 MILLION INVESTMENT, WE DON'T

14:15:44 KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTY VALUE WILL BE WORTH, BUT ARE YOU GUYS

14:15:47 GOING TO PAY AD VALOREM ON THE ENTIRE PROPERTY?

14:15:51 >> IN A TYPICAL GROUND LEASE SCENARIO, THERE WILL BE EXEMPT

14:15:56 BECAUSE IT'S STILL GOING TO BE --

14:15:59 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M SORRY, I FORGOT.

14:16:02 THANK YOU.

14:16:02 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:16:04 I WANTED TO ECHO ALSO WHAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES SAID IN

14:16:07 TERMS MUCH JUST HOW HAPPY AND CONTENT THE CITY IS TO BE

14:16:10 PARTNERING UP WITH RELATED AND ALL YOUR BROTHER AND SISTER

14:16:14 GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS.

14:16:16 YOU KNOW, THE VISION THAT YOU PUT FORWARD, I THINK IT REALLY

14:16:19 SPEAKS TO THE ECONOMIC ANXIETY AND DISLOCATION THAT WE HAVE

14:16:22 SEEN IN TAMPA, IN FLORIDA, THROUGHOUT MUCH OF THE UNITED

14:16:25 STATES THROUGHOUT THE MUCH FEW YEARS STARTING WITH COVID AND

14:16:29 THEN THE AFTERMATH OF COVID.

14:16:31 WE ARE SEEING NUMBERS OF LOCALLY, AND IN FLORIDA AND

14:16:34 THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THAT WILL BE FORMALLY WHAT I CALL AN

14:16:37 ATTACK ON THOSE WHO WANT TO STAY IN THE MIDDLE CLASS, AN

14:16:40 ATTACK ON THOSE WHO ARE WORKING HARD EVERY DAY TO BE GET

14:16:43 THEIR FAMILIES INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS AND INTO THE WORKING




14:16:46 CLASS, ET CETERA, WHETHER IT'S INFLATION THAT'S 8%

14:16:49 NATIONALLY, ABOUT 10 OR 11% IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA, 27% IN

14:16:54 INCREASE IN RENT OVER THE LAST YEAR, GAS PRICES AT 4 OR $5

14:16:59 AN HOUR.

14:17:00 FAMILIES ARE FINDING IT HARDER AND HARDER TO GET BY.

14:17:05 BUT HOUSE, WHEN WE SAY THAT HOUSING IS A RIGHT, I ALWAYS

14:17:08 TELL PEOPLE THAT'S NOT SOME RADICAL POLITICAL SLOGAN.

14:17:11 WE SAY THAT COMES OUT OF GEORGE BAILEY AND IT'S A WONDERFUL

14:17:14 LIFE.

14:17:15 THE BUILDING ALONE THAT SAYS IF YOU WORK HARD AND YOU ARE

14:17:18 RAISING A FAMILY AND YOU ARE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND

14:17:20 GET UP EVERY DAY AND GO TO WORK AND PUNCH THE CLOCK AND GO

14:17:24 NINE TO FIVE AND COME HOME TO RAISE YOUR KIDS EVERY DAY,

14:17:26 THAT YOU DESERVE A GOOD HOUSE, IN A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE

14:17:29 YOU CAN RAISE YOUR FAMILY.

14:17:30 AND THIS PROJECT DOES THAT, NOT ONLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE

14:17:34 WORKING HARD TO GET INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS, WORKING CLASS

14:17:38 PEOPLE, LOWER-INCOME FOLKS WHO ARE WORKING HARD EVERY DAY

14:17:42 AND TAKING THOSE HITS, BUT TO OUR MIDDLE CLASS AS WELL, FOR

14:17:46 WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.

14:17:47 WE ASK A LOT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA Y.DON'T OUR POLICE

14:17:50 OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?

14:17:53 YOU KNOW WHY?

14:17:53 BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.

14:17:54 YOU START OFF EARNING 50, $60,000, GOOD LUCK LIVING IN THE




14:17:59 CITY OF TAMPA AND IT'S GETTING WORSE.

14:18:01 IT'S GETTING WORSE.

14:18:02 IF YOU LEARN $75,000, YOUR HOUSEHOLD DOES, I WAS TALKING TO

14:18:07 THE APARTMENT FOLKS, SAYING THAT THE AVERAGE APARTMENT IS

14:18:10 GOING FOR I THINK IT WAS TWO BEDROOM ABOUT $1800, ABOUT 30%

14:18:15 OF YOUR GROSS INCOME BEFORE TAXES, BEFORE CHILD CARE, BEFORE

14:18:18 HEALTH CARE, AND BEFORE GOD KNOWS WHAT.

14:18:21 SO THOSE NUMBERS REALLY COME TOGETHER TO FORM AGAIN AN

14:18:24 ATTACK ON THOSE WHO WANT TO STAY IN THE MIDDLE CLASS AND

14:18:27 ATTACK ON THOSE FIGHTING HARD TO GET INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS.

14:18:30 AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT ALSO I THINK SPEAKS OF THE TAMPA

14:18:34 EXPERIENCE.

14:18:35 YOU ALL HAVE -- DO A LOT OF WORK IN MIAMI.

14:18:38 I HAVE FAMILY IN MIAMI.

14:18:40 AND WE IN A WAY LIKE MIAMI, WE ARE A CITY OF IMMIGRANTS, A

14:18:46 CITY OF REFUGEES.

14:18:47 I THEM ABOUT MY FAMILY WHEN I CAME HERE, MY DAD CAME TO

14:18:50 TAMPA IN 1960 FROM CUBA, MY MOM CAME TO MIAMI IN 1960, AND

14:18:55 WE HAD NOTHING.

14:18:56 WE HAD NOTHING.

14:18:57 BUT IT WAS PROGRAMS AND EFFORTS, THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THINGS

14:19:02 IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, STATE AND LOCAL AND FEDERAL

14:19:05 GOVERNMENT, COMBINED WITH OUR HARD WORK, THAT WOULD MEET US

14:19:07 HALFWAY THERE, TO GET US TO WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY.

14:19:10 SO I GUESS MY SUMMARY IS THAT PROJECTS LIKE THIS ARE SUCH




14:19:15 WONDERFUL PUBLIC PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERSHIPS THAT HELP

14:19:19 PEOPLE ACHIEVE THE AMERICAN DREAM.

14:19:20 AND WE ARE A CITY OF THE AMERICAN DREAM.

14:19:22 SO I THINK TO ME THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I SEE THIS PROJECT ON

14:19:25 A LARGER LEVEL.

14:19:26 SO JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND YOUR

14:19:28 PRESENTATION.

14:19:29 THANK YOU.

14:19:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PETER?

14:19:38 >> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS I DID WANT TO INTRODUCE

14:19:41 PETER, WHO HAS BEEN HANDLING ALL OF THE COMMUNITY

14:19:44 ENGAGEMENTS.

14:19:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

14:19:49 >> MY NAME IS PETER VAN WARNER, A LOCAL HERE.

14:19:53 I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

14:19:54 I WANTED TO ASK YOU ALL, WHY THE DEVELOPERS GET A BAD RAP?

14:20:02 IT'S BECAUSE IN MY OPINION THEY JUST DON'T CARE.

14:20:05 EITHER THEY DON'T CARE, THEY COME IN, THEY DEVELOP, RAISE

14:20:08 WHAT WAS THERE AND IGNORE THE HISTORY, IGNORE THE PEOPLE,

14:20:11 IGNORE THE COMMUNITY.

14:20:12 I CAN TELL YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY, I CARE.

14:20:15 IT STARTS WITH ALBERT CARING.

14:20:16 THAT'S WHY THE COMPANY AND THE ENTIRE TEAM CARES.

14:20:20 WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, OUTREACH EVENTS, THEY

14:20:22 WANTED AN OBSERVATION TOWER WITH BRICK TO BE INDICATIVE OF




14:20:27 THE OLD CIGAR TOWERS IN WEST TAMPA.

14:20:29 WE HAVE A CIGAR TOWER.

14:20:30 WE CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.

14:20:32 WE ARE DOING LEED SILVER.

14:20:33 ALL THE ARCHITECTS HATE MOW BECAUSE I AM REDESIGNING ALL THE

14:20:38 OLD OAK TREES.

14:20:39 WE REALLY CARE.

14:20:40 I THINK YOU WILL SEE THAT'S VERY PLEASANT.

14:20:42 I INVITE ANY OF YOU TO COME OUT AND VISIT WEST RIVER.

14:20:45 I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN THERE, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:20:47 BUT LOOK AT SOME OF THESE RESIDENTS WHEN THEY WALK BACK INTO

14:20:51 THEIR UNITS, COMPLETELY REDONE.

14:20:53 THAT'S WHY I WORK WITH THIS COMPANY.

14:20:54 I CAN TELL YOU WITH ALL MY HEART REALLY, REALLY CARE.

14:20:58 WE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM THAT REALLY CARES.

14:20:59 AND WE ARE READY FOR IT SO WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT.

14:21:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:21:04 YES, SIR.

14:21:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS THERE FOR RIBBON CUTTING, AND IT WAS

14:21:10 VERY IMPRESSIVE, GENTLEMEN.

14:21:11 AND DON'T HAVE TO CARRY YOUR CLOTHES TO THE LAUNDROMAT.

14:21:19 YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT THAT.

14:21:22 YOU CAN'T TELL WHAT APARTMENT BECAUSE THEY ALL LOOK SO NICE.

14:21:30 SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU MAKE.

14:21:33 IT'S THE SAME AMENITIES AS I AM.




14:21:37 WE ARE ALL LIVING IN A PLACE THAT'S NICE AND COMFORTABLE.

14:21:39 SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT.

14:21:41 I AM GLAD THAT YOU TALK ABOUT THE STATE APPRENTICESHIP

14:21:43 PROGRAMS.

14:21:44 I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE A PROGRAM THAT MIRRORS THAT BECAUSE A

14:21:46 LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE CAN'T MEET THAT THRESHOLD EITHER.

14:21:49 SO IT'S LIKE ANYTHING, YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE A FILLER FOR

14:21:53 EACH PROJECT SO I AM GLAD YOU HAVE THAT FEELING TO WHERE WE

14:21:57 WILL BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE ON THE JOB AND BE ABLE TO GET

14:21:59 THEM TRAINED AND HAVE A SKILL AT THE END OF THE DAY SO I AM

14:22:02 GLAD THAT WE HAVE A SECONDARY PROGRAM THAT CAN ALSO HELP AND

14:22:05 MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE AND ANY OTHERS CAN BE PART OF THE

14:22:10 PROJECT, BE ABLE TO EAT, AND APPLY FOR SHELTER THEMSELVES

14:22:15 BECAUSE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE SHELTER THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE

14:22:17 ISSUES AND PROBLEMS IN THE COMMUNITY.

14:22:19 SO I AM GLAD YOU ARE DOING THAT.

14:22:21 I APPRECIATE THAT.

14:22:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

14:22:26 AND I THANK YOU.

14:22:29 YOU HAVE COVERED ALL THE BASES.

14:22:30 AND MOST OF THE BASES, THE BIGGEST CRISIS THAT WE ARE FACING

14:22:34 IS HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, AND YOU ARE COMING IN NOT AT 50

14:22:42 YEARS, YOU ARE COMING IN AT DIFFERENT LEVELS THAT

14:22:44 ACCOMMODATE DIFFERENT INCOMES.

14:22:46 AND WE ARE IN SUCH DEMAND RIGHT NOW AND PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE




14:22:48 WITHIN THE CITY, AND THIS IS IN THE CENTER OR CENTRALLY

14:22:51 LOCATED AND THEY LIVE WITH DIGNITY.

14:22:53 I KNOW THE PRODUCTS THAT YOU PUT OUT AND CONSTRUCT, THEY ARE

14:23:00 HARD QUALITY, THE EFFORTS YOU PUT INTO COMMUNITY OUTREACH,

14:23:03 LISTENING TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.

14:23:05 YOU ARE NOT COMING IN AND GENTRIFYING AND LIKE YOU SAID WHY

14:23:09 DO DEVELOPERS GET A BAD WRAP?

14:23:12 BECAUSE THEY COME IN AND DO WHAT THEY WANT, AT LEAST THE

14:23:14 PERCEPTION TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

14:23:15 YOU ARE COMING IN WITH CARE.

14:23:17 YOU ARE COMING IN LOOKING AT THE DETAILS, LISTENING TO THE

14:23:19 PEOPLE, LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC.

14:23:20 AND COUNCILMAN MEMBER GUDES SAID IT, YOU GO OUT THERE AND

14:23:25 YOU ARE IMPRESSED.

14:23:26 COUNCILMAN VIERA TALKED ABOUT HIS FAMILY COMING HERE FROM

14:23:29 CUBA.

14:23:30 YOU KNOW, COMING WITH NOTHING.

14:23:31 THE SAME STORY WITH MY MOTHER AND MY GRANDPARENTS CAME FROM

14:23:34 CUBA 60 YEARS AGO WITH NOTHING, AND BECAUSE THEY WERE

14:23:38 AFFORDED CERTAIN OPPORTUNITIES AND WHATEVER, WHATNOT, THEY

14:23:41 BUILT THEMSELVES UP.

14:23:44 TAMPA IS GROWING.

14:23:45 MIAMI IS A DIFFERENT STORY.

14:23:48 I GET ANXIETY GETTING OFF I-95 GOING INTO DOWNTOWN BECAUSE

14:23:52 AT LEAST HERE I CAN PULL INTO DOWNTOWN AND FIND A PARKING




14:23:56 SPACE.

14:23:56 THERE, I DON'T KNOW.

14:23:57 BUT LAST TIME I WAS IN MIAMI WAS THERE FOR TWO HOURS AND I

14:24:00 CAME AROUND AND CAME BACK.

14:24:02 I DID WHAT I HAD TO DO.

14:24:03 >> SO NEXT TIME GIVE ME A CALL AND I WILL MAKE SURE YOUR

14:24:08 ANXIETY LEVEL IS --

14:24:11 [ LAUGHTER ]

14:24:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT I THINK IT'S A WORTHY PROJECT.

14:24:14 YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE AREA WELL.

14:24:15 I DRIVE THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME.

14:24:17 I HAVE MY WHOLE LIFE.

14:24:20 IF THIS DOESN'T GO THROUGH, THEN WHAT IS GOING TO TAKE ITS

14:24:23 PLACE?

14:24:23 I UNDERSTAND HOW THE RFP WAS DONE, HOW THE BID WAS DONE, WHY

14:24:26 YOU WERE CHOSEN, HOW CRA DOLLARS WERE NOT ASKED FOR, YOU

14:24:30 CAME IN AND PUT YOUR INVESTMENT AND WHATNOT.

14:24:32 I LIKE THAT AS A 99 YEAR LEASE.

14:24:35 I'M YOUNG BUT I AM NOT GOING TO BE LIVING TO SEE THE END OF

14:24:37 THAT LEASE.

14:24:38 BUT 99 YEAR LEASE WHERE IT IS A TRUE PUBLIC-PRIVATE

14:24:41 PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE IT WILL BE AND WILL STAY

14:24:44 GOVERNMENT-OWNED LAND, WHILE YOU ARE GENERATING YOUR INCOME

14:24:50 BECAUSE YOU ARE HERE TO MAKE MONEY, TOO, BUT AT THE SAME

14:24:52 TIME WE RETAIN OWNERSHIP.




14:24:53 I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.

14:24:55 IT'S ALMOST A THOUSAND RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 954, AND 687 WILL

14:25:02 BE INCOME RESTRICTED.

14:25:03 AND WE HAVE A BACKLOG OF INDIVIDUALS.

14:25:05 A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LOOKING FOR HOUSING, DIFFERENT INCOMES,

14:25:08 EVERYTHING IS EXPENSIVE, AND YOU ARE OFFERING THAT CLOSE TO

14:25:12 EVERYTHING, TO THE AMENITIES THAT PEOPLE WANT ALONG THE

14:25:15 RIVER, NEAR THE RIVERWALK, NEAR DOWNTOWN, ON AND ON AND ON.

14:25:18 I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT.

14:25:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST LISTENED TO ALL THE STORIES AND

14:25:23 ALL OF US HAVE BASICALLY THE SAME BACKGROUND.

14:25:26 IN THIS AUDIENCE TODAY CAME FROM SOMEWHERE THAT WAS NOWHERE

14:25:29 50 OR 100 YEARS AGO.

14:25:31 SO ALL OF US SOMEHOW GOT TO THIS POINT.

14:25:33 AND I WAS FORTUNATE THAT I WAS RAISED IN THE CONDOMINIUMS,

14:25:36 BEFORE THE WORD WAS INVENTED.

14:25:38 I COME FROM TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.

14:25:39 SO I CONSIDERED CONDOMINIUM, THE WORD WASN'T INVENTED AT

14:25:44 THAT TIME, BUT IT WAS NICE.

14:25:45 I HAD A LOT OF FRIEND.

14:25:46 I HAD A LOT OF KIDS TO PLAY WITH.

14:25:48 AND I HAD A MOTHER AND FATHER THAT TAUGHT ME RIGHT FROM

14:25:51 WRONG, OR MAKE BELIEVE I KNEW ALL THAT.

14:25:54 BUT I WOULD SAY, YES, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

14:25:57 I WAS AN E STUDENT AND MY MOTHER SAID, WHAT IS THIS ABOUT?




14:26:01 AND I SAID EXCELLENTE.

14:26:04 SHE THOUGHT I WAS A GENIUS.

14:26:06 BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

14:26:08 IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE.

14:26:09 AND TAMPA IS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO BE.

14:26:11 AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

14:26:12 I WANT TO THANK YOU, I DO ANYWAY, I'M SURE THE BOARD, I

14:26:15 DON'T KNOW HOW THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE, BUT OF THE THREE THAT

14:26:18 WERE THE FINALISTS YOURS WAS FAR AND ABOVE THE ONE THAT SAT

14:26:22 DOWN AND OFFERED AMENITIES THAT NONE OF THE OTHERS WOULD

14:26:26 EVEN TAKE.

14:26:27 I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

14:26:28 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ANOTHER CLARIFYING YES QUESTIONING AND

14:26:31 MAYBE MORRIS IN LEGAL OR SOMEBODY CAN ANSWER THIS.

14:26:34 I HAVEN'T STUDIED THIS ISSUE BUT I KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY

14:26:39 APPRAISERS HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH LEASES ON PUBLIC

14:26:42 LAND, LIKE IN THE AIRPORT PORT, ABOUT WHETHER PEOPLE HAVE TO

14:26:46 PAY PROPERTY TAX WHEN THEY HAVE LONG-TERM LEASES.

14:26:48 DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE LAW SPECIFICALLY SAYS ABOUT A CITY

14:26:51 LEASING PROPERTY WITH IMPROVEMENTS ON IT?

14:26:55 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES.

14:26:56 THE ONLY -- ONLY THE STATE AND COUNTY ARE REALLY EXEMPT FOR

14:27:00 PROPERTY TAXES FOR NONGOVERNMENTAL USES.

14:27:02 SO EVEN IF THE CITY -- FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE A JEWELRY SHOP

14:27:10 IN THE PUBLIC BUILDING, TAXES HAVE TO BE PAID OH ON THAT.




14:27:13 SO THERE WILL BE PROPERTY TAXES.

14:27:16 THAT'S CORRECT.

14:27:16 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.

14:27:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THERE IS NO OTHER FURTHER

14:27:20 QUESTION --

14:27:21 >> MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.

14:27:23 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY ONE THING FIRST, PLEASE?

14:27:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

14:27:26 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS WAS -- I BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS

14:27:29 IMPROPERLY NOTICED THIS MORNING, THAT WAS PUT ON THE CONSENT

14:27:32 AGENDA, AND BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE -- IT'S $120 MILLION

14:27:38 CONTRACT PLUS ANOTHER 5 MILLION OR SO.

14:27:42 BUT THE PUBLIC DID NOT HAVE A PROPER CHANCE TO REVIEW THIS

14:27:45 OR LOOK AT IT.

14:27:48 MY COLLEAGUES WILL REMEMBER A FEW MONTHS AGO WE APPROVED THE

14:27:51 HANNA AVENUE PROJECT, WHICH WE THOUGHT IN GOOD FAITH WAS

14:27:54 GOING TO GO FORWARD, NO PROBLEMS.

14:27:56 TWO WEEKS LATER THE PUBLIC CAME BEFORE US AND SAID THAT HAD

14:27:59 THEY BEEN AWARE OF IT THEY WOULD HAVE COME BACK AND GIVEN US

14:28:02 SOME FEEDBACK, AND THAT RESULTED IN US TRYING TO REVOKE THE

14:28:05 CONTRACT OR RESCIND THE CONTRACT AND THEN WE HAD ALL KIND OF

14:28:08 LEGAL PROBLEMS.

14:28:09 ONCE WE IMPROVE THIS, IT'S A DONE DEAL.

14:28:12 WE CAN'T UNDO IT.

14:28:14 MY SUGGESTION AND MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT WE CONTINUE THE




14:28:17 VOTE ON THIS UNTIL MAY 19th TO GIVE THE PUBLIC ONE MORE

14:28:20 CHANCE TO GIVE US FEEDBACK BEFORE WE APPROVE IT AGAIN.

14:28:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER CITRO --

14:28:28 >>BILL CARLSON: SO I MADE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE VOTE ON

14:28:31 THIS UNTIL MAY 19th TO GIVE THE PUBLIC A SECOND CHANCE

14:28:35 TO GIVE PUBLIC FEEDBACK ON IT.

14:28:39 20 AND 21, YES.

14:28:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

14:28:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME ASK A QUESTION.

14:28:49 BEFORE I GET INTO DEEP WITH THIS.

14:28:51 MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE SAYING THAT THIS WAS NOT PROPERLY

14:28:54 NOTICED TO THE PUBLIC?

14:28:55 >>BILL CARLSON: IT WHATS NOT NOTICED AS A REGULAR AGENDA

14:28:58 ITEM RATHER THAN A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.

14:29:00 A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM SHOULD BE LESS THAN 3 MILLION.

14:29:03 THIS IS ABOUT $125 MILLION PLUS OR MINUS CONTRACT THAT

14:29:06 SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON A SEPARATE SECTION, HAD IT BEEN IN A

14:29:09 SECTION THAT REQUIRES LARGE ITEMS, IT'S POSSIBLE MORE PEOPLE

14:29:13 IN THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE SHOWN UP.

14:29:14 WE SAW IN THE HANNA AVENUE CASE THAT WE THOUGHT WE HAD

14:29:18 COMPLETE INFORMATION, BUT TWO WEEKS LATER THE PUBLIC CAME TO

14:29:20 US AND SAID THERE WERE ALL KIND OF CONCERNS ABOUT IT.

14:29:23 SO MY SUGGESTION IS NOT TO VOTE AGAINST THIS, BUT TO JUST

14:29:27 CONTINUE THE VOTE ON IT FOR A COUPLE WEEKS, JUST SO WE GET

14:29:30 ONE MORE CHANCE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SHOW UP. IF NOBODY SHOWS




14:29:33 UP THEN WE VOTE ON IT AND MOVE FORWARD.

14:29:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE OR OUT OF

14:29:38 COMPLIANCE FOR THIS BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A VOTE TODAY?

14:29:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE IN COMPLIANCE.

14:29:42 THIS MEETING WAS PROPERLY NOTICED.

14:29:43 IT WAS ON THE AGENDA.

14:29:44 BACKUP MATERIALS SUCH AS IT IS WAS AVAILABLE.

14:29:49 AND YOU DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE.

14:29:53 COUNCILMAN MEMBER CARLSON IS CORRECT, AND THAT DID COME UP

14:29:56 RECENTLY WITH A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC

14:29:58 ABOUT, THAT PURCHASE SUPERINTENDENT TO THE CHARTER, YOU

14:30:03 AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE CONTRACT.

14:30:06 AND THE MAYOR SIGNS THE CONTRACT.

14:30:08 IT IS THEN THE CONTRACT THAT CONTROLS.

14:30:10 THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE JURISDICTION, LET'S SAY, OVER

14:30:15 THE MATTER TO RECONSIDER.

14:30:17 SO WITH REGARD TO ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE CONSENT DOCKET THAT

14:30:20 REQUIRES THE MAYOR SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL BY RESOLUTION, ONCE

14:30:24 YOU GIVE IT, THEN ONCE THAT CONTRACT IS SIGNED, YOU ARE

14:30:29 EFFECTIVELY, I GUESS, THE WORD WOULD BE HE IS STOPPED TO

14:30:33 PREVENT CITY COUNCIL FROM DOING ANYTHING.

14:30:34 >>BILL CARLSON: SO THIS HAS GONE ON FOR MORE THAN A YEAR OF

14:30:38 DISCUSSION SINCE THE RFP WAS APPROVED, EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T

14:30:42 APPROVE IT.

14:30:43 BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT DOESN'T HURT ANYTHING TO WAIT TWO




14:30:45 MORE WEEKS TO SEE IF THE PUBLIC HAS ANY MORE FEEDBACK ON IT

14:30:48 BECAUSE I THINK MOST PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC AREN'T EVEN AWARE

14:30:52 WE COVERED IT.

14:30:53 THERE'S BEEN NO MEDIA COVERAGE.

14:30:56 >>MORRIS MASSEY: IT WAS NOTICED.

14:30:57 IT WAS PROPERLY NOTICED.

14:30:58 AND YOU ALL CAN ACT ON IT TODAY LEGALLY IN MY OPINION, AND I

14:31:02 THINK MR. SHELBY SUPPORTS THAT.

14:31:04 RELATIVE TO WHETHER IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER THE STAFF

14:31:06 REPORTS INITIALLY OR NOT, TYPICALLY, UNDER ONE OF YOUR

14:31:11 MOTION, IF THE CITY IS PAYING MORE THAN $3 MILLION, IT'S

14:31:14 SUPPOSED TO BE UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

14:31:15 PART OF THE ISSUE HERE IS WE ARE NOT PAYING ANYTHING.

14:31:18 WE ARE RECEIVING MONEY.

14:31:19 AND IT'S HARD TO ESTIMATE WHAT THAT AMOUNT WAS, FRANKLY.

14:31:25 THE STAFF, A ADMINISTRATION ITSELF, DECIDED TO PULL IT OFF

14:31:29 OF THE CONSENT AGENDA SO IT WOULD BE PUT UNDER STAFF REPORTS

14:31:32 SO YOU COULD HAVE A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MATTER.

14:31:36 SO THAT WAS DONE BY THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE.

14:31:38 I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.

14:31:40 AND I KNOW YOU HAD PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING, RELEVANT TO

14:31:46 COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S POINT.

14:31:48 THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO

14:31:51 ADDRESS YOU ALL SO IF YOU WANT TO --

14:31:54 >>> MOTION TO WAIVE THE RULES FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.




14:31:57 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:31:59 ALL IN FAVOR?

14:32:01 MR. EDWARD.

14:32:02 >> THANK YOU.

14:32:07 THE INVITATION WAS WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK THIS AFTERNOON.

14:32:12 ROBERT PETE EDWARD.

14:32:13 I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO CONTINUE THIS.

14:32:15 THEY NEED TO REWORK SOME OF THE AGREEMENT.

14:32:17 LET ME GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE.

14:32:19 IF YOU REMEMBER IN THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, THEY HAD

14:32:21 TALKED ABOUT THE WEST END PROJECT, EVEN TALKED ABOUT OPENING

14:32:24 UP ALL THE WAY TO THE ROAD.

14:32:27 BUT -- ALL THE WAY TO THE END, THAT THE PREVIOUS

14:32:30 ADMINISTRATION HAD TOOK THE LEAD OVER THE SCHOOL BOARD

14:32:34 RESPONSIBILITY TO SELL ALL THE SCHOOLS OFF THE RIVER, AND IT

14:32:38 FINALLY CAME OUT, VERIFIED IN THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES" AND THE

14:32:41 TAMPA TRIBUNE.

14:32:43 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AGREEMENT THIS MORNING, THIS

14:32:46 AFTERNOON, IT TALKS ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES, WHICH INCLUDE THE

14:32:49 SCHOOLS NORTH OF THE RIVER.

14:32:50 AND I FIND IT INTERESTING, AND THE CITY -- IT KIND OF THREW

14:32:58 EVERYBODY FOR A LOOP WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT THE SCHOOLS.

14:33:01 SO I ASKED A LAWYER FRIEND OF MINE TO TELL ME WHAT WOULD

14:33:05 STOP THE CITY FROM, IF THEY ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH

14:33:08 THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE COUNTY, TO EXPAND THE SCHOOLS, IF




14:33:17 THEY OBTAINED THE PROPERTY OR WHATEVER, WOULD THEY HAVE TO

14:33:19 COME BACK TO THE PUBLIC AND GET ANOTHER, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

14:33:25 AND THEN THE QUESTION I HAVE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, HAVE

14:33:28 THEY HAD ANY DISCUSSION WITH THE OTHER TWO GOVERNMENT

14:33:30 ENTITIES, SO WE WON'T BE EMBARRASSED LIKE WE WERE THE LAST

14:33:33 TIME TO FIND OUT THAT WE HAD THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION,

14:33:37 AND IT'S ON RECORD THAT THEY FINALLY ADD MATED THAT THEY

14:33:39 WERE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE TO SELL ALL THREE SCHOOLS OFF THE

14:33:43 RIVER WITHOUT TELLING ANYBODY, INCLUDING SCHOOL BOARD

14:33:45 MEMBERS.

14:33:46 SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY -- I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF

14:33:50 DEVELOPER, HAVE YOU ALL HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE LOCAL

14:33:53 GOVERNMENTS TO EXPAND THIS AGREEMENT SO TRANSFER OF PROPERTY

14:33:59 WITHOUT COMING BACK?

14:34:01 NOW THAT'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION.

14:34:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MASSEY?

14:34:05 >> AND SECOND OF ALL, IF YOU HAD A DISCUSSION, OR IF YOU

14:34:09 WOULD HAVE A LATER DISCUSSION, WOULD COUNCIL BE IN A

14:34:11 POSITION TO CONTROL, OR ONCE THEY VOTE ON A RESOLUTION

14:34:15 TODAY, YOU COME BACK AND SAY APPLY TO LEGAL WE CAN DO

14:34:19 WHATEVER WE WANT TO NOW BECAUSE OF THE BALANCE?

14:34:21 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I WILL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THOSE.

14:34:23 THIS AGREEMENT APPLIES ONLY TO THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY.

14:34:26 IT US WHAT NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE SCHOOLS.

14:34:28 THERE THERE'S BEEN NO DISCUSSION ABOUT INCLUDING THE SCHOOLS




14:34:31 IN THIS AGREEMENT.

14:34:32 AT POLICE SOLELY TO THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY.

14:34:34 AND IF THERE IS ANY FUTURE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD INVOLVE THE

14:34:36 SCHOOLS IN THE VICINITY OF THIS PROJECT, THAT WOULD HAVE TO

14:34:40 COME BACK BEFORE THIS BODY FOR APPROVAL.

14:34:43 IT CANNOT BE DONE UNILATERALLY WITHOUT BECOMING TO THE

14:34:47 BOARD.

14:34:47 >> THEN CHANGE THE AGREEMENT TO REFLECT THAT NO SUCH TIME IS

14:34:51 THIS INCLUSIVE OF OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES THAT ARE NORTH

14:34:55 OF SPRUCE.

14:34:57 THAT'S THE RIGHT WAIT TO DO IT.

14:34:58 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE AGREEMENT IS SOLELY BETWEEN THE

14:35:01 DEVELOPER AND SO WE CANNOT BIND OTHER GOVERNMENTAL BODIES

14:35:05 WITHOUT THEIR APPROVAL.

14:35:06 THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE DOCUMENT WHICH

14:35:09 IS CONTROLLING IS THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPERTY THE

14:35:12 CITY OWNS ONLY.

14:35:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:35:14 >> TRUST IN ALL THAT.

14:35:17 SO WHY WOULDN'T THEY DO THAT JUST IN THE BEST INTEREST OF

14:35:19 UNITING THIS COMMUNITY AND MOVING FORWARD?

14:35:21 I AM NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT.

14:35:22 THE QUESTION I HAVE IS THE WAY THEY DID IT UNDER THE

14:35:24 PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, A LOT OF COUNCIL DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT

14:35:30 IT, THEY DENIED IT.




14:35:32 IT THEY DENIED IT TILL THE END OF THE LAST MEETING FIGURED

14:35:36 OUT WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH RIVERFRONT PARK.

14:35:39 IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HIDE JUST PUT IN THE THERE AND

14:35:42 THEN THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THIS COMMUNITY GOES FORWARD,

14:35:46 WE DON'T NEED THE LEGAL JARGON.

14:35:49 HOW ABOUT DOING IT IN THE COMMON SPIRIT AND COUNCILMAN

14:35:52 SENSE?

14:35:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:35:54 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:35:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS THIS WILL GO TO MS. TRAVIS AND TO

14:35:59 ALBERT.

14:36:01 ARE WE IN A TIME CRUNCH?

14:36:03 I NEED TO KNOW THAT, BECAUSE IF TWO WEEKS DELAY TO JUST MAKE

14:36:08 SURE -- WE HAD SO MUCH CHAOS WITH OTHER PROJECTS RECENTLY.

14:36:12 I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION, I LIKE THE PROJECT AND I

14:36:15 HAVE GOT TO SIT BACK AND WAIT -- I WOULD RATHER, IF WE NEED

14:36:20 TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS OPEN AND

14:36:23 TRANSPARENT, THEN LET'S DO THAT.

14:36:25 BUT ARE WE IN A TIME CONSTRAINT, OR WILL IT -- MAKE SURE WE

14:36:29 DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

14:36:30 >> AND LET ME ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.

14:36:32 THE ANSWER IS YES, TWO WEEKS WILL HURT.

14:36:34 AND I WILL GIVE YOU AN APPROPRIATE EXAMPLE.

14:36:38 WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR PHONES NOW AND YOU GOOGLE AND YOUR

14:36:43 TREASURY BILL IN MARCH YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THAT THE TEN




14:36:45 YEAR TREASURY HAS MOVED OVER 100 POINTS WHICH DIRECTLY

14:36:49 AFFECTS INTEREST RATES.

14:36:51 IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN APRIL, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THAT IT'S

14:36:54 MOVED MORE THAN HALF A POINT.

14:36:56 SO THAT'S AN UNPRECEDENTED INCREASE IN RATES.

14:37:03 AND FOR ANYONE TO THINK THAT RATES DON'T HAVE A DIRECT

14:37:06 CORRELATION TO IMPACTING PROJECTS IS NAIVE.

14:37:12 SO THE ANSWER IS, ABSOLUTELY, YES, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

14:37:17 YOU HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC EARLIER ABOUT RENT INCREASES,

14:37:20 INTEREST RATES CONTINUE TO RISE, CONSTRUCTION COSTS CONTINUE

14:37:24 TO RISE.

14:37:25 SO DEFINITELY TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

14:37:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MASSEY, TO MR. EDWARDS' QUESTIONS, TO

14:37:33 HIS POINT, COULD THAT BE ACCOMPLISHED WHAT HE'S TALKING

14:37:38 ABOUT OR IS IT BACK TO YOUR POINT, YOU JUST CAN'T DO THAT?

14:37:42 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I CAN TELL YOU WITHOUT EQUIVOCATION THAT

14:37:45 THIS AGREEMENT APPLIES SOLELY TO THE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY.

14:37:48 IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE SCHOOLS.

14:37:49 FANNED THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY AGREEMENT THAT AFFECT THE

14:37:52 SCHOOLS ADJACENT OR NEARBY TO THIS PROJECT, IT HAS TO COME

14:37:55 BEFORE THIS BODY.

14:37:57 WE CANNOT FIND THE SCHOOL BOARD.

14:37:58 WE CANNOT BIND THE COUNTY.

14:38:00 WE CANNOT COMBINED ANY GOVERNMENTAL ENTICE OR ANY OTHER

14:38:04 ENTITY WHO IS NOT PARTY TO THE AGREEMENT.




14:38:07 THE SOLE PARTIES ARE RUDG-LLC, CITY OF TAMPA, AND BOTH

14:38:14 AGREEMENTS ARE THE PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF

14:38:16 TAMPA AND NO OTHER PROPERTY.

14:38:18 AND I WILL SWEAR ON A STACK OF BIBLES.

14:38:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO GOVERNMENT CAN BIND ANOTHER

14:38:27 GOVERNMENT WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF ANYBODY, PERIOD, ONE WAY OR

14:38:29 THE OTHER.

14:38:31 AND, YOU KNOW, I AM NOT THE SMARTEST GUY OR THE SHARPEST

14:38:37 KNIFE IN THE DRAWER, BUT I AM NOT WAITING ANOTHER DAY.

14:38:40 I KNOW WHAT MONEY COSTS.

14:38:41 I KNOW WHAT THINKS COST.

14:38:44 I KNOW WHAT A TWO BY FOUR COST YEARS AGO.

14:38:47 AND IT'S TEN TIMES THE AMOUNT.

14:38:53 I AM NOT USING THAT AS AN EXCUSE.

14:38:55 THIS IS ON THE AGENDA, WHETHER IT'S ON PAGE 5 OR PAGE 6.

14:38:57 9 WAS THERE.

14:38:58 WHETHER IT WAS IN ONE AREA OR THE OTHER AREA, THIS COUNCIL

14:39:02 HAD A VOTE ON IT NO MATTER WHICH AREA IT WAS IN, WHETHER IN

14:39:07 A, B OR C.

14:39:08 SO LET'S CLEAR THAT OUT.

14:39:10 WE GOT ELECTED TO VOTE.

14:39:13 IF YOU WANT TO SAY I DID SOMETHING WRONG, COME SEE ME V.THE

14:39:17 FBI, CIA, ANYBODY COME SEE ME, BECAUSE I AM NOT AFRAID

14:39:20 BECAUSE I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG.

14:39:22 SO LET ME CLEAR THAT OUT ALSO.




14:39:25 I NEVER GOT A CONTRIBUTION OR ASKED FOR CONTRIBUTION FROM

14:39:28 ANYBODY HERE.

14:39:28 NEVER.

14:39:29 AND I DON'T INTEND TO EVER TO DO THAT.

14:39:32 SO I AM NOT DOING IT FOR ANYTHING IN MY BENEFIT.

14:39:37 I AM BORN ALONE.

14:39:38 I DIE ALONE.

14:39:39 AND I AM GOING TO VOTE ALONE.

14:39:44 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

14:39:45 >>BILL CARLSON: MY MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR.

14:39:49 CAN WE JUST RECORD WHETHER I GOT A SECOND OR NOT?

14:39:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION TO

14:39:53 CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO MAY 19th?

14:39:56 IS THERE A SECOND NOW?

14:39:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL GIVE YOU A SECOND.

14:40:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION.

14:40:05 MAY.

14:40:06 >>CHAIRMAN: MAY I COMMENT ON IT SINCE WE ARE GOING TO VOTE?

14:40:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:40:12 NUMBER ONE, THIS WAS NOTICED.

14:40:14 I HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME, AS

14:40:17 LONG AS I THINK EVERYONE ELSE HAS, AND IF THERE IS, BECAUSE

14:40:20 YOU KNOW HANNA WAS BROUGHT UP. IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT

14:40:23 IS KNOWN, RIGHT?

14:40:25 THEN WE SHOULD PROBABLY SAY HERE TODAY.




14:40:27 IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE ARE SAYING WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER

14:40:29 SIMILAR ISSUE TO COME UP LIKE HANNA, IF THERE IS SOMETHING

14:40:32 THAT'S KNOWN, WE SHOULD ALL KNOW ABOUT IT RIGHT HERE TODAY.

14:40:35 TO THE EXTENT THAT -- AND AGAIN I APPRECIATE AND RESPECT

14:40:39 COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION, BUT I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY

14:40:42 BE BAD FOR US TO HAVE EVERYONE HERE.

14:40:46 WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION AND GO, HEY, LISTEN, LET'S WAIT

14:40:50 ANOTHER TWO WEEKS, BECAUSE IT WAS A BAD EXPERIENCE SOME TIME

14:40:53 AGO.

14:40:53 I JUST RESPECTFULLY CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.

14:40:55 AND I DO MEAN RESPECTFULLY.

14:40:57 THANK YOU.

14:40:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

14:40:59 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?

14:41:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

14:41:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.

14:41:04 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.

14:41:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.

14:41:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.

14:41:09 >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.

14:41:11 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

14:41:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:

14:41:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.

14:41:16 >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH MANISCALCO, VIERA, CITRO,

14:41:20 MIRANDA, HURTAK AND GOODS VOTING NO.




14:41:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO HAS MOVED THE

14:41:24 SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.

14:41:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT WAS MY COMMITTEE.

14:41:27 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IT.

14:41:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

14:41:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE ITEM NUMBER 20, SUBSTITUTE

14:41:32 MOTION, AND DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT?

14:41:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

14:41:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS

14:41:43 CROSSED.

14:41:43 SO I JUST MOVED THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20.

14:41:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY CITRO.

14:41:47 >>BILL CARLSON: THE PROJECT SOUND GREAT.

14:41:50 I AM VOTING AGAINST IT BECAUSE I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS MORE

14:41:52 TIME TO -- IT WILL PROBABLY ARE A 6-1 VOTE BUT I THINK THE

14:41:58 PUBLIC NEEDS MORE TIME TO WEIGH IN AND WE NEED MORE TIME,

14:42:02 AND TWO WEEKS A YEAR AND A MONTH OF WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.

14:42:05 I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD TWO MORE WEEKS TO BE LOOK AT

14:42:08 IT, AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTICED IN A MORE

14:42:11 TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE WAY, AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

14:42:15 SO I AM JUST GOING TO VOTE NO FOR THAT REASON, NOT BECAUSE I

14:42:18 AM AGAINST THE PROJECT.

14:42:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:42:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND MR. CARLSON'S POINT.

14:42:25 ISM GOING TO VOTE YES ON THE PROJECT.




14:42:27 BUT I THINK GOING FORWARD, THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO LOOK AT THE

14:42:31 RFP PROCESS, AND MAYBE COUNCIL NEEDS TO CHANGE THE PROCESS

14:42:37 SO WE DON'T GO DOWN THESE ROADS, WE ARE GETTING SOME LARGE

14:42:41 PROJECTS NOW, PUBLIC IS ASKING SOME QUESTIONS.

14:42:43 I THINK FOR TRANSPARENCY IN THE FUTURE WE NEED TO LOOK TO

14:42:48 MAYBE CHANGE THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD.

14:42:50 BUT I WILL VOTE ON THE PROJECT FOR TODAY.

14:42:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

14:42:57 >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE, IT SOUND LIKE A BETTER PROCESS FOR

14:43:00 THESE LARGER PROJECTS THAT HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST FROM THE

14:43:02 PUBLIC.

14:43:05 BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHERE EVERYONE IS COMING FROM, AND HOW

14:43:08 LONG THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN WORKED ON, AND I UNDERSTAND THE

14:43:11 MONEY, SERIOUSNESS.

14:43:14 IT DOES SOUND LIKE A GOOD PROJECT, BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT

14:43:20 THE PUBLIC DIDN'T GET AS MUCH OF A VOICE AS THEY MIGHT HAVE.

14:43:27 SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

14:43:28 BUT IT SOUND LIKE A GREAT PROJECT.

14:43:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:43:35 AND THE BID WAS CHOSEN, YOU WERE CHOSEN FOR THE REASONS YOU

14:43:40 HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.

14:43:41 I THINK OUT WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE OTHER BIDDERS.

14:43:43 I THINK YOU WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

14:43:48 JUST THE NUMBERS IN ITSELF OF WHAT'S AFFORDABLE AND WHAT'S

14:43:51 MARKET RATE, ESPECIALLY IN THIS CLIMATE, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING




14:43:55 FOR AFFORDABLE, EVERY DAY THAT CONVERSATION IS ABOUT

14:43:58 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HERE IN THE CENTER OF THE CITY, THE

14:44:02 AMENITIES, THE QUALITY OF CONSTRUCTION, QUALITY OF LIVE,

14:44:04 PEOPLE WILL BE LIVING IN DIGNITY.

14:44:06 I CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON.

14:44:07 SO I AM GOING TO BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT.

14:44:09 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

14:44:11 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

14:44:13 ROLL CALL.

14:44:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

14:44:17 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

14:44:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

14:44:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

14:44:21 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

14:44:22 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.

14:44:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

14:44:25 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE SUBSTITUTE

14:44:28 FOR 21 AS WELL?

14:44:30 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.

14:44:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

14:44:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 21, THE SUBSTITUTE, AND THE

14:44:44 SUBSTITUTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR THAT FILE, I MOVE

14:44:50 THAT MOTION.

14:44:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

14:44:53 ROLL CALL.




14:44:53 >>BILL CARLSON: ALTHOUGH I WOULD HAVE VOTED ALSO TO

14:45:00 CONTINUE THIS ONE SINCE THE FIRST ONE WAS APPROVED I WILL

14:45:03 VOTE YES ON THIS ONE.

14:45:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

14:45:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

14:45:08 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

14:45:09 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

14:45:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

14:45:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

14:45:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

14:45:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE AGAIN ON 20.

14:45:19 I BELIEVE IN MY OWN -- I DID NOT SAY THE FILE NUMBER AND I

14:45:23 WANT THE RECORD TO BE 100%.

14:45:25 SO I WOULD LIKE A REVOTE ON ITEM NUMBER 20.

14:45:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S YOUR WISH.

14:45:29 GO AHEAD, SIR.

14:45:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO REFILE NUMBER 20 WHICH

14:45:33 IS FILE F-22-74004.

14:45:37 I MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION ON ITEM NUMBER 20.

14:45:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

14:45:42 ROLL CALL.

14:45:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

14:45:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

14:45:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

14:45:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.




14:45:46 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

14:45:47 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.

14:45:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

14:45:51 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.

14:45:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:45:54 THAT'S IT.

14:45:55 ITEM NUMBER 41.

14:45:57 AND MOVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

14:46:03 MOTION FROM COUNCIL MIRANDA, SECOND BY CITRO.

14:46:07 ALL IN FAVOR?

14:46:08 ANY OPPOSED?

14:46:09 ITEM NUMBER 41.

14:46:18 DO YOU NEED A RECESS OR ANYTHING?

14:46:19 NO.

14:46:20 GO AHEAD.

14:46:20 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

14:46:23 ITEM NUMBER 41 IS BEFORE YOU FOR PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR THE

14:46:27 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5710 NORTH MIAMI AVENUE.

14:46:32 THE PETITIONER FILED A REVIEW FOR A SPECIAL USE APPLICATION

14:46:38 THAT WAS REQUESTING FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.

14:46:44 STAFF DENIED THE APPLICATION OF JANUARY 24 OF 2022 ON THE

14:46:50 BASIS THAT THE APPLICATION DID NOT MEET THE CRITERIA SET

14:46:52 FORTH IN CODE SECTION 27-132.

14:46:57 REMEMBER, CITY COUNCIL, YOU JUST PROVIDED COPIES OF THE

14:47:01 RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS WHICH IS CODE SECTIONS 27-132, 27-129




14:47:06 AND 27-30.

14:47:08 I ALSO PROVIDED THE SAMPLE MOTIONS, AND THE RULINGS OF

14:47:12 PROCEDURE FOR THIS REVIEW HEARING.

14:47:15 THE STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THE PETITION FOR REVIEW THIS

14:47:19 AFTERNOON IS GOVERNED BY CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBSECTION J

14:47:25 SUBSECTION 3.

14:47:27 THAT SECTION MEANS THAT CITY COUNCIL CONDUCT A DE NOVO

14:47:30 STANDARD OF REVIEW WHICH MEANS THAT YOU CAN ACCEPT

14:47:33 TESTIMONY, PUBLIC COMMENT, AND MAKE YOUR DECISION TO

14:47:38 DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICANT OR THE PETITIONER

14:47:42 MEETS THE RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS FOR THIS APPLICATION.

14:47:49 STAFF, WHO IS GOING TO PRESENT STAFF'S FINDING, AND THE

14:47:52 REASON FOR THE STAFF DECISION IS LAURA MARLEY.

14:47:56 AFTER YOU CONDUCT -- COLLECT ALL THE EVIDENCE IN THIS CASE,

14:48:02 CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE A COUPLE OF ACTIONS.

14:48:05 YOU CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, AND

14:48:08 DENY THE SPECIAL USE APPLICATION, OR YOU CAN OVERTURN THE

14:48:13 DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, AND THEREBY GRANT THE

14:48:18 SPECIAL USE APPLICATION, AND WITH THAT I WILL TURN THE

14:48:21 PRESENTATION OVER TO MS. MARLEY.

14:48:25 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

14:48:29 LAURA MARLEY, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

14:48:32 I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN.

14:48:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

14:48:35 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).




14:48:36 >> COULD I SHARE MY SCREEN?

14:48:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL

14:48:47 RECEIVED AND FILED ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS SUBJECT TO

14:48:50 FLORIDA STATUTES 286-0115 AND IF THERE'S ANY VERBAL EX PARTE

14:48:55 COMMUNICATIONS PLEASE DISCLOSE THEM NOW.

14:48:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING?

14:49:01 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND BY

14:49:04 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:49:04 ALL IN FAVOR?

14:49:07 AYE.

14:49:07 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

14:49:17 >> CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?

14:49:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

14:49:28 GO AHEAD.

14:49:29 >> THIS APPLICATION WAS SPECIAL USE 12204 FOR PROPERTY

14:49:33 ADDRESS 5710 NORTH MIAMI AVENUE.

14:49:37 THE REQUEST FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.

14:49:39 THIS IS THE OVERALL AREA LOCATED IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.

14:49:44 THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOOKING FROM MIAMI.

14:49:48 AND THIS IS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE LOOKING FROM EAST HENRY

14:49:52 AVENUE.

14:49:56 THIS IS A PHOTO FROM EAST HENRY AVENUE.

14:49:59 THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY AND THIS IS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE

14:50:02 IN QUESTION.

14:50:04 AND THESE ARE THE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING




14:50:07 UNIT.

14:50:08 THEY ARE -- THE APPLICANT IS GOING MEET ALL OF THEM WITH THE

14:50:11 EXCEPTION OF C, WHICH AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT MAY BE

14:50:16 DESIGNED TO BE LOCATED WITHIN A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING WITH

14:50:18 A SEPARATE ENTRANCE OR IN A CONFORMING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

14:50:22 HOWEVER, IT MAY NOT BE LOCATED IN A NONCONFORM ACCESSORY

14:50:25 STRUCTURE OR CONFORM AS A RESULT OF A VARIANCE.

14:50:29 THE PROPOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WILL BE LOCATED IN AN

14:50:33 EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM

14:50:36 REQUIRED SETBACKS, AS REQUIRED BY CODE, AND THEREFORE

14:50:39 NONCONFORMING.

14:50:41 A SIDE STREET SETBACK OF 3 FEET IN THE REAR, SETBACK OF 3

14:50:44 FEET IS REQUIRED, THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE DOES NOT

14:50:48 COMPLY WITH EITHER REQUIREMENT, AND THE REQUEST IS A ZERO

14:50:52 FOOT SETBACK FOR THE STREET AND SIDE SETBACKS.

14:50:55 AND HERE IS SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY, THE EXISTING

14:51:00 SINGLE-FAMILY AND THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

14:51:03 AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ARE ON THE PROPERTY LINE ON HENRY AND

14:51:07 ON THE PROPERTY LINE WHICH IS CONSIDERED THE REAR.

14:51:11 THE REQUIRED IS 3 FEET.

14:51:13 THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH ZERO FEET.

14:51:15 AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

14:51:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

14:51:19 NO?

14:51:20 YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.




14:51:21 WERE YOU SWORN IN?

14:51:23 OKAY, GOOD.

14:51:24 GO AHEAD.

14:51:26 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

14:51:27 >>JAIME MAIER: JAIME MAIER REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT FROM

14:51:30 THE LAW FIRM HILL, WARD, HENDERSON, 101 EAST KENNEDY

14:51:33 BOULEVARD, SUITE 3700 TAMPA, AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

14:51:37 I AM JUST GOING TO SWITCH OVER TO PC TO SHOW A PowerPoint.

14:51:53 IF I CAN GET THE COMPUTER TO WORK.

14:51:54 >>JAIME MAIER: SORRY, EVERYBODY.

14:53:19 THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

14:53:20 OKAY.

14:53:22 SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR, AS STAFF EXPLAINED, A REQUEST FOR

14:53:27 A WAIVER TO A SINGLE CRITERION IN THE SPECIALTY USE FOR

14:53:31 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS SET OF CRITERIA, SPECIFICALLY TO

14:53:35 ALLOW AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IN A NONCONFORMING

14:53:39 STRUCTURE.

14:53:39 BY WAY OF BACKGROUND THE APPLICANTS LIVE IN A HOME, THE

14:53:42 PRIMARY HOME STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN THE 1920S, THE ACCESSORY

14:53:46 STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN 1930s, AND OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD WAS

14:53:49 PLATTED ALSO IN EARLY 1900, I BELIEVE 1913 WAS THE DATE ON

14:53:52 THE PLAT.

14:53:55 IT IS COUNCILMAN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OTHER THAN A STONE'S

14:53:58 THROW.

14:53:59 I WILL SHOW YOU A FEW PICTURES LATER OF AERIALS FOR




14:54:01 ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND KIND OF TUCKED IN THE CORNER OF THE

14:54:05 YEAR, SIDE YARD, AND MANY OF THESE STRUCTURES WERE ALSO

14:54:07 BUILT AROUND THE TIMES THAT THE HOMES WERE BUILT AND THIS IS

14:54:10 OFTEN IN THE 20s AND 30s WHEN THE AREA WAS PLATTED OR

14:54:15 SHORTLY AFTER IT WAS PLATTED AND A LOT OF THESE TYPES OF

14:54:17 STRUCTURES HAVE MINIMAL TO ZERO FOOT SETBACKS WHICH TODAY

14:54:20 ARE NONCONFORMING TO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING CODE.

14:54:24 THERE'S ALSO COMMON FOR STRUCTURES TO BE USED AS ADUs.

14:54:30 SO THESE SPECIAL USE 1 PERMIT AS YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR IS AN

14:54:35 ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, SO THERE'S NO PROBLEM HEARING, BUT

14:54:39 STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GRANT WAIVERS FROM

14:54:42 THOSE CRITERIA.

14:54:43 ONLY CITY COUNCIL HAS THAT AUTHORITY.

14:54:45 SO STAFF EVEN THOUGH IT MEETS ALL THE OTHER CODE AS STAFF

14:54:48 EXPLAINED, STAFF HAD TO DENY THE APPLICATION BECAUSE ONE OF

14:54:51 THOSE CRITERIA WAS NOT MET.

14:54:53 AND THIS PETITION FOR REVIEW VENUE ALLOWS THE POSSIBILITY

14:54:56 FOR YOU ALL TO GRANT A WAIVER OF THAT PARTICULAR CRITERION.

14:55:00 AS STAFF EXPLAINED, THE 3-FOOT DIFFERENCE, THE MODERN DAY

14:55:04 SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS 3 FEET,

14:55:07 WHETHER IT'S ON THE REAR OR THE SIDE, IN THIS CASE BOTH.

14:55:10 IT'S ZERO FEET WOULD REALLY FLUSH WITH THOSE SETBACKS.

14:55:15 WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY OPPOSITION.

14:55:16 WE CERTAINLY HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY OPPOSITION.

14:55:19 AND WE HAVE RECEIVED SUPPORT LETTERS FROM MANY OF THE




14:55:21 ADJACENT AND SURROUNDING OWNERS.

14:55:23 I WILL SHOW YOU A LITTLE MAP OF THOSE PEOPLE AND THE LETTERS

14:55:25 WERE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE APPELLATE FOR REVIEW PACKAGE

14:55:28 AS WELL.

14:55:31 YOU SAW THE SITE PLANS JUST A MOMENT AGO.

14:55:34 HERE ARE THE CONTENTS OF THE AERIAL STRUCTURE.

14:55:36 YOU CAN SEE AN ALLEY RUNS ALONG THE WEST, KIND OF BUFFERING

14:55:39 THAT STRUCTURE FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE WEST.

14:55:43 AND THEN TO THE NORTH IS HENRY AVENUE.

14:55:46 THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

14:55:46 THERE'S A PAVED PORTION AND AN UNIMPROVED PORTION THAT IS AN

14:55:51 ADDITIONAL BUFFER IN THE NORTH.

14:55:56 THESE ARE A LITTLE OLDER.

14:55:58 THEY HAVE CLEANED IT UP.

14:55:58 BUT THIS IS REALLY KIND OF ON THE GROUND TO GIVE YOU CONTEXT

14:56:01 OF THAT ALLEY AND ALSO THIS IS THE AREA IF YOU ARE STANDING

14:56:05 ON HENRY, YOU SEE THE UNIMPROVED PORTION OF HENRY.

14:56:08 SO THERE'S A LOT OF YARD SPACE, IT DOESN'T BELONG TO THEM

14:56:11 BUT THERE IS KIND OF A BUFFER AROUND THIS STRUCTURE.

14:56:15 SO THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA, THIS DWELLING UNIT, ACCESSORY

14:56:20 DWELLING UNIT IS LESS THAN 950 SQUARE FEET, I BELIEVE ABOUT

14:56:23 815.

14:56:24 THE MAIN RESIDENCE IS OWNER OCCUPIED.

14:56:27 IT'S THEIR HOMESTEAD, A NONCONFORM STRUCTURE.

14:56:30 THIS IS A JUSTIFIABLE WAIVER FROM THIS PARTICULAR CRITERIA




14:56:35 THAT WOULD OTHERWISE PROHIBIT USE OF A NONCONFORMING

14:56:38 STRUCTURE.

14:56:38 THIS PARTICULAR CRITERIA DOES NOT RECOGNIZE WHAT'S GOING ON

14:56:42 IN TAMPA'S OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS ESPECIALLY WHERE SO MANY OF

14:56:44 THESE STRUCTURES EXIST, THIS TYPE OF USE IS VERY COMMON, AND

14:56:47 UNNECESSARILY RESTRICTED TO DISALLOW USE OF EXISTING

14:56:50 BUILDING STOCK WHEN SO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO USE IT FOR

14:56:53 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND WHEN IT MEETS ALL OTHER CODE

14:56:57 CRITERIA.

14:56:58 SO IT DOESN'T REFLECT THE DESIRABILITY OF USING THESE AS

14:57:01 FORMAL HOUSING.

14:57:04 THE APPLICANT IS PREPARED TO COMPLY WITH THE NUMBER OF

14:57:07 LIMITATIONS AND THE SAFEGUARD OF THIS PROCESS IS THAT IT IS

14:57:10 REVIEWED, THE PERMIT IS REVIEWED ANNUALLY BY STAFF IF

14:57:13 GRANTED.

14:57:13 AND IF CONDITIONS CHANGE, IF IT BECAME SO KIND OF NEGATIVE

14:57:18 IMPACT IT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU ALL AGAIN TO REASSESS.

14:57:23 THE GENERAL STANDARDS FOR ALL SPECIAL USE 1 PERMITS, THERE

14:57:29 CANNOT BE A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, A

14:57:34 COMMON USE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE THOSE BUFFER AREAS

14:57:36 THAT I SHOWED YOU.

14:57:39 IT COMPLIES WITH ALL OF THE APPLICABLE CODE REGULATIONS AND

14:57:42 STANDARDS.

14:57:43 IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE REASONS I

14:57:45 EXPLAINED, AND VERY COMMON TYPE OF STRUCTURE AND ALSO USE,




14:57:50 IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT'S

14:57:53 RESIDENTIAL USE IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, REUSING EXISTING

14:57:56 BUILDING STOCK AND IT'S PROMOTING A VARIETY OF HOUSING

14:57:59 CHOICES.

14:57:59 AND FOR ALL THESE SAME REASONS IT'S NOT PROMOTING A

14:58:03 POTENTIAL OR PRECEDENT OF INCOMPATIBLE USES IN THE AREA.

14:58:08 AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS KIND OF WITHIN A STONE'S

14:58:11 THROW OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

14:58:12 A LOT OF THESE LITTLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN THE REAR

14:58:17 YARDS, OF COURSE DON'T HAVE SURVEYS ON ALL THESE BUT VISIBLY

14:58:21 THEY APPEAR TO BE VERY CLOSE AND NOT FLUSH WITH MANY OF THE

14:58:24 BOUNDARIES, THE LOT BOUNDARIES.

14:58:28 I DON'T KNOW IF THESE ALL HAVE SPECIAL PERMITS, OR IF THEY

14:58:31 ARE NONCONFORMING.

14:58:33 AGAIN I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION ON THE SURVEYS OR PERMITS

14:58:36 BUT THESE ARE KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF THE TYPES OF STRUCTURES

14:58:39 YOU SEE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, WHERE THEY ARE USING THESE.

14:58:43 THEY ARE CLEANING THEM UP, USING THEM AS ACCESSORY DWELLING

14:58:46 UNITS AND A LOT OF THESE AS YOU CAN SEE ARE FLUSH WITH THE

14:58:49 FENCE LINE SO PRESUMABLY THEY ARE SIMILARLY SITUATED AS YOU

14:58:52 SAW ON A LOT OF THE AERIALS, THE WAY THESE STRUCTURES ARE.

14:58:58 THE BLUE PIN DROPS ARE ALL SUPPORT LETTERS YOU RECEIVED

14:59:02 ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH, ADJACENT ACROSS THE ALLEY TO THE

14:59:06 NORTHWEST, ADJACENT TO THE NORTH ACROSS HENRY, A CROSS THE

14:59:10 STREET, AND ONE BLOCK TO THE SOUTH.




14:59:12 WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED OBJECTIONS.

14:59:14 I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK TODAY.

14:59:16 SO IN SUM, WE ARE REQUESTING A WAIVER FROM A SINGLE

14:59:19 CRITERION THAT DOESN'T REALLY REFLECT THE ACTUAL PATTERNS OF

14:59:23 DEVELOPMENT ESPECIALLY IN THESE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS.

14:59:25 WE WILL BE USING BUILDING STOCK.

14:59:26 THIS REQUEST OTHERWISE SATISFIES ALL APPLICABLE CODE.

14:59:30 AND THE STRUCTURE AND THE USE TYPE ARE COMMON IN THE AREA SO

14:59:33 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL AND I AM

14:59:36 HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

14:59:37 THANK YOU.

14:59:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:59:39 HOW LONG HAS THE STRUCTURE BEEN THERE?

14:59:42 >> SINCE 1930.

14:59:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:59:46 WHAT BROUGHT ON THIS CASE?

14:59:49 DID SOMEONE CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT OR ANYBODY ABOUT THIS?

14:59:52 >>JAIME MAIER: SO UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS A CASE STUDY IN BAD

14:59:55 PERMITTING ADVICE.

14:59:56 THE APPLICANT, ONE OF THE PARENTS WANTED TO REFURBISH THIS

15:00:02 INTO AN EXISTING UNIT FOR THEM TO LIVE IN SIX MONTHS OUT OF

15:00:06 THE YEAR AND THEN RECOUP COSTS WHICH RENTING IT OUT.

15:00:09 A LOT OF THEIR NEIGHBORS DO IT.

15:00:10 THEY HIRED A PERMITTING AGENT.

15:00:12 I HAVE PERSONALLY NOT WORKED WITH THE PERSON BECAUSE THEY




15:00:14 REALIZED THEY NEED THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

15:00:16 THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF THE PROCESS, GOT FLAGGED, STOPPED, WE

15:00:20 HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.

15:00:22 MS. SAVINO IS THE ATTORNEY WHO THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH,

15:00:27 AND WHILE WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, SO THAT'S WHERE WE

15:00:32 ARE.

15:00:34 YEAH, IT WAS UNFORTUNATE, THEY DIDN'T KNOW IN ADVANCE THEY

15:00:37 HAD TO MAKE THIS APPLICATION.

15:00:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO WERE THEY RENTING TO A FAMILY MEMBER?

15:00:43 >> NO, THEY ARE NOT RENTING IT YET.

15:00:45 THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, PULLING THE PERMIT AND

15:00:48 IT GOT FLAGGED DURING THE PROCESS OF RENOVATING IT.

15:00:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE IT WAS TAGGED, WHAT WAS IT USED FOR?

15:00:58 >> HONESTLY I AM NOT SURE.

15:01:00 I KNOW THEY WEREN'T REPRESENTING IT.

15:01:03 THEY RECENTLY MOVED INTO THEIR HOUSE LIKE A COUPLE YEARS

15:01:05 AGO.

15:01:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHO ARE THEY PLANNING ON RENTING IT TO?

15:01:09 >> OH, PARENTS --

15:01:12 >> FAMILY MEMBER?

15:01:13 >> PARENTS ABOUT SIX MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR.

15:01:15 OTHERWISE, I SUPPOSE WHOEVER WAS IN THE MARKET.

15:01:19 AND THEY ARE NOT HERE TODAY.

15:01:20 THEY WANTED TO BE HERE.

15:01:22 THEIR DAUGHTER HAS COVID.




15:01:23 I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE THEY COULD BETTER ANSWER SOME OF THESE

15:01:26 QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

15:01:26 SO MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

15:01:29 BUT IT'S NOT AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH A DIFFERENT

15:01:32 TYPE OF SPECIAL USE.

15:01:34 IT COULD BE RENTED TO CONCEIVABLY ANYBODY.

15:01:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO IT WOULDN'T LITERALLY BE A MOTHER-IN-LAW

15:01:42 SUITE?

15:01:42 >> IN EFFECT SIX MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR, YES.

15:01:45 BUT WE ARE NOT GOING THROUGH THAT -- THERE IS A DIFFERENT

15:01:48 SPECIAL USE CHANNEL FOR THAT.

15:01:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:01:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

15:01:59 I FIND IT VERY INTERESTING THAT SOMEONE WOULD LIVE THERE SIX

15:02:04 MONTHS AND THEN THEY ARE GOING TO ASK THEM TO LEAVE AND MOVE

15:02:08 SOMEONE IN FOR SIX MONTHS.

15:02:09 THAT DOESN'T WORK.

15:02:10 LET'S BE REALISTIC.

15:02:11 >> CORRECT.

15:02:14 A BNB.

15:02:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT.

15:02:18 I AM NOT CALLING YOU UNBELIEVABLE BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT.

15:02:22 NO ONE IS GOING TO MOVE THEM OUT AND MOVE THE PARENTS IN,

15:02:24 FIND ANOTHER TENANT, AND THAT'S GOING TO ROTATE EVERY YEAR?

15:02:28 >> I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE MORE SHORT TERM RENTAL WHICH




15:02:31 IS PERMITTED.

15:02:31 YOU ARE CORRECT.

15:02:32 THAT WOULD BE VERY STRANGE AND IT WOULD NOT BE REALISTIC.

15:02:35 BUT I THINK IT'S MORE A WAY FOR THEM TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY

15:02:40 TO COME DOWN --

15:02:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS THIS PROPERTY HOMESTEADED OR NOT?

15:02:46 >> YES.

15:02:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY HAVE NEVER RENTED THE PLACE?

15:02:49 >> NO, THEY HAVEN'T RENTED --

15:02:50 >> DOES IT HAVE A KITCHEN IN THE INSIDE?

15:02:52 >> YES. NOW.

15:02:53 THAT'S PART OF THE PERMIT PULLING.

15:02:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEN THEY LOSE THEIR HOMESTEAD.

15:02:58 IF THEY HAVE A KITCHEN IN THERE. THIS IS FOR FAMILY

15:02:59 MEMBERS.

15:02:59 IF YOU ARE GOING TO RENT IT, GUESS WHAT, THEN YOUR TAXES GO

15:03:02 UP, MUCH DIFFERENT.

15:03:04 YOUR TAXES BECOME A BUSINESS.

15:03:06 >> YOU ARE PERMITTED TO HAVE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND

15:03:11 ALSO LIVE IN THE HOUSE.

15:03:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FAMILY MEMBERS.

15:03:14 >> NO, RESPECTFULLY, THAT'S CALLED AN EXTENDED FAMILY

15:03:17 RESIDENCE, A DIFFERENT CHANNEL OF THE CODE AND YOU ARE NOT

15:03:20 ALLOWED TO RENT THAT OUT TO A NONFAMILY MEMBER.

15:03:22 MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR THAT AND WE ARE NOT




15:03:25 TRYING TO GET THAT THROUGH SECRETLY.

15:03:28 WE ARE ASKING FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT WHICH IS

15:03:31 PERMITTED TO BE RENTED TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.

15:03:33 IT IS A DIFFERENT SERIES OF PERMITS.

15:03:35 AND IT'S A DIFFERENT STANDARD.

15:03:38 I PERSONALLY HAVE DONE THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE

15:03:41 APPLICATION BEFORE AND IT IS DIFFERENT.

15:03:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE MORE QUESTION.

15:03:47 THE LOTS THAT YOU SHOWED US THAT HAVE DWELLING UNITS, DO YOU

15:03:49 KNOW IF THOSE ARE EMPTY OR FULL OR RELATIVES OR NOT?

15:03:53 >> I DON'T KNOW.

15:03:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT?

15:03:57 >> NO, SIR.

15:03:58 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

15:04:00 NO, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I DON'T KNOW THAT INFORMATION.

15:04:03 I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF IS AWARE IF THOSE UNITS ARE OCCUPIED

15:04:06 OR NOT.

15:04:09 AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE PETITIONER HAS PROVIDED THAT

15:04:11 INFORMATION EITHER.

15:04:12 >> I WILL SAY ONE OF THOSE WE GOT PERMITTED IS CURRENTLY

15:04:21 BEING USED.

15:04:21 I KNOW IT WENT THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS.

15:04:24 SO I KNOW IT'S ON THE MARKET FOR BEING RENTED.

15:04:28 THERE'S LISTINGS FOR IT.

15:04:29 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WANT -- ARE YOU




15:04:38 DONE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION?

15:04:39 >> YES.

15:04:41 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO COUNCIL

15:04:44 MEMBERS ATTENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP

15:04:46 DURING HER PRESENTATION.

15:04:47 THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT MAY BE SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY IN

15:04:52 QUESTION ASKING FOR A SPECIAL USE, THERE IS NO INFORMATION

15:04:55 ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ACCESSORY DWELLING, THOSE

15:04:58 STRUCTURES ARE PERMITTED, OR WHEN THEY WERE ESTABLISHED, AND

15:05:02 QUITE FRANKLY THEY WERE DONE BEFORE THE ZONING PROVISION

15:05:05 TEAMS.

15:05:05 AND I JUST WANT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE AWARE OF THAT,

15:05:11 THAT JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE PROPERTIES IN THAT AREA HAVE

15:05:14 ALSO STRUCTURES IN THE REAR DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT WAS

15:05:18 PERMITTED, AND THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING PROVIDED BY THE

15:05:23 PETITIONER THAT THEY WERE PERMITTED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN

15:05:26 THE REAR.

15:05:26 AND JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BACK THERE DOESN'T MEAN THAT OTHER

15:05:31 PROPERTIES HAVE IT DOESN'T MEAN THIS PARROT SAME PROPERTY

15:05:33 OWNER SHOULD HAVE THE SAME THING.

15:05:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?

15:05:40 YES, MA'AM?

15:05:40 >>ABBYE FEELEY: DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH

15:05:45 MANAGEMENT FOR THE CITY.

15:05:47 I JUST WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT'S




15:05:49 HAPPENING UP TO THIS MORNING, AS YOU KNOW, OR THIS

15:05:52 AFTERNOON.

15:05:52 WE ARE CONTINUALLY FACING OUR CRISIS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING

15:05:55 AND HOUSING UNIT.

15:05:56 AND WHAT I HEAR THE DISCUSSION TAKING PLACE TODAY IS ON

15:06:00 EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCES VERSUS AB USES WHICH ARE

15:06:04 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

15:06:06 THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PRODUCTS.

15:06:07 THEY ARE BOTH SPECIAL USES.

15:06:09 WHAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING ON THIS CASE IS THAT THIS IS

15:06:13 A REQUEST FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.

15:06:16 THE CRITERIA DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THOSE TO BE COMPLIES PLACED

15:06:20 IN NONCONFORMING STRUCTURES.

15:06:22 THE SPECIAL USE 1, WHICH IS ADMINISTRATIVE, WENT TO THE

15:06:25 ZONING DEPARTMENT.

15:06:26 THEY DENIED IT BECAUSE IT HAS THOSE SPECIFIC CRITERIA.

15:06:32 IF YOU DON'T MEET IT WE CANNOT APPROVE IT.

15:06:34 IT COMES TO YOU ON APPEAL.

15:06:36 THAT'S WHERE IT IS TODAY, TO ASK YOU FOR PERMISSION TO USE

15:06:39 THAT NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE FOR THIS USE.

15:06:43 AND THAT IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU.

15:06:45 SO GETTING INTO THE KITCHENS, THIS IS AN ALLOWED ACCESSORY

15:06:51 DWELLING WHICH ALLOWS FOR A KITCHEN, IT ALLOWS FOR IT TO BE

15:06:54 RENTED.

15:06:54 SO IT IS DIFFERENT FROM AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE, BUT I




15:06:57 JUST WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD CLARIFYING WHAT'S BEFORE YOU

15:07:00 TODAY.

15:07:01 SORRY ABOUT THAT, LAURA.

15:07:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY.

15:07:08 I ALWAYS LEARN WHEN YOU GIVE US YOUR INPUT.

15:07:12 I WAS LOOKING FOR A DIFFERENT SUBJECT WHEN I ASKED WHO WAS

15:07:14 GOING TO BE LIVING THERE, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOING TO BE

15:07:16 RENTED TO A FAMILY MEMBER OR NOT.

15:07:18 AGAIN, WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE LEASES IN THIS AREA OF THE CITY

15:07:22 OF TAMPA.

15:07:25 I AM JUST THE KIND OF PERSON THAT LIKES TO BE SEE EXTENDED

15:07:28 LEASES INSTEAD OF SHORT-TERM.

15:07:31 THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION.

15:07:34 I WOULD GIVE IT CONSIDERATION.

15:07:37 YEAH, MY MOTHER-IN-LAW IS GOING TO RENT IT.

15:07:41 THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY.

15:07:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT

15:07:44 WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

15:07:46 ANYBODY REGISTERED?

15:07:47 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.

15:07:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY REBUTTAL?

15:07:55 >>JAIME MAIER: I APPRECIATE MS. FEELEY'S INPUT.

15:07:58 WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SNEAK THROUGH AN EXTENDED FAMILY

15:08:01 RESIDENCE.

15:08:01 WE WOULD HAVE GONE THAT ROUTE IF THAT WAS THE ONLY THING




15:08:04 THEY WANTED TO DO WITH IT.

15:08:05 THEY DO WANT TO RENT IT OUT.

15:08:07 BUT THEIR PARENTS ALSO WANT THE FLEXIBILITY TO STAY THERE

15:08:10 BECAUSE IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

15:08:13 BUT, YES, IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A RENTAL UNIT.

15:08:16 SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST.

15:08:20 AND ALSO TO CLARIFY, I SAID ON THE RECORD AS I WAS SHOWING

15:08:23 YOU.

15:08:23 I DON'T HAVE THE SURVEYS FOR THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES.

15:08:26 I DON'T HAVE ANY RECORD OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

15:08:29 IT'S JUST KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE SURROUNDING AREA

15:08:32 LOOKS LIKE, AND WHAT IS FREQUENTLY GOING ON IN THE

15:08:34 NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WHERE THEY GOT THE IDEA, FRANKLY.

15:08:37 SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS

15:08:40 WAIVER.

15:08:40 AND I THINK IT DOES PROMOTE, HELPS WITH THE ISSUES WE HAVE

15:08:46 IN THE CITY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO BE HERE.

15:08:48 THANK YOU.

15:08:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN

15:08:51 GUDES.

15:08:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY HAVING A

15:08:54 RENTAL UNIT.

15:08:55 I KNOW THAT IN THAT AREA, THERE'S A WAY OF DOING IT WHERE

15:09:00 YOU CAN HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THERE AND THEY DO CHECK ONCE A

15:09:03 YEAR, AND I AM ALL FINE WITH THAT.




15:09:06 BUT ONCE THEY SAY IT'S A RENTAL UNIT, THAT CAUSE AS LOT OF

15:09:09 QUESTIONS TO ME. IN WEST TAMPA ALONE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT

15:09:12 IN A VERY SMALL AREA -- AND IT WASN'T SO MUCH ACCESSORY

15:09:17 UNITS AS THEY EXPANDED THE HOUSE CONNECTED TO THE HOUSE.

15:09:20 AND SOMETIMES THERE'S TWO OR THREE FAMILIES LIVING IN THE

15:09:23 HOUSE, IN THE BACK.

15:09:24 AND IN FACT ONE OF THE LADIES LAST THURSDAY NIGHT CAME TO ME

15:09:29 ASKING IF I COULD FIND A REPLACEMENT.

15:09:31 SHE'S RENTING AN APARTMENT INSIDE OF HER HOUSE.

15:09:35 SO WHAT HAPPENS THERE IS THIS.

15:09:38 AND I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS THIS CASE, PLEASE, DON'T TAKE

15:09:41 THAT.

15:09:42 THEY PAY NO AD VALOREM TAX OTHER THAN THE HOMESTEAD TAX.

15:09:47 THEY PAY NO INCOME TAX.

15:09:49 THEY ARE NOT REPORTING IT TO THE GOVERNMENT.

15:09:51 SO MOST OF THEM, I ALWAYS SAY 95% OF THOSE THAT I HAVE SEEN

15:09:55 ARE PAYING NOTHING.

15:09:58 NOTHING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.

15:09:59 NOTHING TO THE COUNTY.

15:09:59 NOTHING TO THE CITY.

15:10:01 AND THOSE ARE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, IN A SMALL AREA, THAT I

15:10:04 CAN TELL YOU IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSE.

15:10:07 AND WE DO NOTHING.

15:10:10 THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.

15:10:17 NOT ABOUT YOUR CASE.




15:10:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S KIND OF STRANGE TO ME.

15:10:22 SIX MONTHS, AND THEN THEY ARE GONE, AND SIX MONTHS, I MEAN,

15:10:28 WE TALK ABOUT A HOUSING CRISIS, BUT IT'S ODD TO ME RIGHT

15:10:35 NOW.

15:10:37 I MOVE TO CLOSE.

15:10:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO CLOSE.

15:10:43 SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

15:10:46 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:10:47 ANY OPPOSED?

15:10:47 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

15:10:48 >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN, JUST TO SEE

15:11:05 WHAT HAPPENS, UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO MAKE THE OTHER

15:11:08 MOTION.

15:11:10 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE ZONING

15:11:14 ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF SPECIAL USE 1 APPLICATION

15:11:18 SU-1-22-04 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5710 NORTH MIAMI AVENUE

15:11:26 BECAUSE THE GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-132

15:11:30 AND 27-129 SHOULD BE WAIVED.

15:11:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I WOULD APPRECIATE, I AGREE WITH

15:11:39 YOU.

15:11:40 HOWEVER, WHEN I LOOK AT THE CRIMINALITY ASPECT, AND WE

15:11:45 HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH THEM EITHER, THEN WHY SHOULD I

15:11:49 PICK ON ONE WHEN THERE'S SEVEN NEXT?

15:11:52 AND I AGREE WITH YOU, SIR.

15:11:53 I REALLY DO.




15:11:54 BUT WHEN THERE'S SEVEN OTHER BLUE DOTS AND WE DON'T KNOW

15:12:00 WHAT'S GOING ON?

15:12:01 SO IF THERE'S 8 SPEEDERS DO I JUST CATCH ONE?

15:12:09 >>BILL CARLSON: DOES THIS FAIL FOR LACK OF A SECOND?

15:12:12 >> I SECOND IT.

15:12:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

15:12:14 IF I AM GOING TO GO ON ONE, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER ONES?

15:12:21 I'M ASKING ANYBODY.

15:12:22 GIVE ME SOME HELP.

15:12:23 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AFTER WE VOTE?

15:12:27 BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR ADVICE.

15:12:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, IF THIS IS A DISCUSSION ON THE

15:12:33 MOTION AND IT FORMS THE BASIS FOR YOUR DECISION, I THINK

15:12:35 IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE PART OF THE RECORD, IF YOU HAVE A

15:12:38 POSITION, AS TO ANY FACTS, ADDITIONAL FACTS.

15:12:42 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SYSTEMIC SOLUTIONS

15:12:44 FOR THIS PROBLEM.

15:12:46 THAT MAY BE BETTER UNDER NEW BUSINESS OR SOMETHING.

15:12:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL --

15:12:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO REOPEN.

15:12:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE HEARING IS CLOSED.

15:13:11 YES, MA'AM?

15:13:12 >> I THINK THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS CORRECT THAT THIS IS

15:13:24 AN ISSUE WE NEED TO DISCUSS BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE ARE

15:13:27 HAVING A WORKSHOP ON AB USE COMING UP SOON AND I THINK THAT




15:13:31 GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

15:13:32 BUT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN HOUSING NOW, WE DO NEED TO FIND

15:13:39 MORE WAYS TO ALLOW HOUSING, AND THIS WOULD BE ALLOWABLE --

15:13:48 WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE IF IT HADN'T BEEN SET BACK

15:13:50 INCORRECTLY, OR NOT INCORRECTLY BUT JUST DIFFERENT FROM WHAT

15:13:55 OUR CURRENT ZONING IS.

15:13:56 BUT I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.

15:13:57 I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE NEED TO

15:13:59 FIND ALL OF THOSE HIDDEN UNITS AND BRING THEM ON.

15:14:03 AND I THINK WE CAN DO THAT, BUT THIS TO ME IS TALKING ABOUT

15:14:08 DOING IT LEGALLY, GETTING ALL THE WAIVERS, GETTING

15:14:11 EVERYTHING THEY NEED, AND USING THE PROPERTY THE WAY THEY

15:14:14 ARE ALLOWED TO USE IT.

15:14:16 IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN TO BE IN THE CORRECT -- IN THE

15:14:20 LOCATION THAT THE CITY WOULD NORMALLY ALLOW.

15:14:21 >> THANK YOU.

15:14:30 AND I HAVE HEARD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST.

15:14:32 AGAIN, TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S POINT, WHY ARE WE PICKING OUT

15:14:36 ONE WHEN THERE'S EIGHT OTHERS?

15:14:39 WHAT WAS THE REASON WHY CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS CALLED ON THIS

15:14:41 ONE?

15:14:45 THIS IS A SIX-MONTH RENTAL.

15:14:48 I WANT TO KNOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET CERTIFICATES?

15:14:51 WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE OTHER MONTHS?

15:14:57 THESE ARE JUST QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE INSIDE MY HEAD.




15:15:00 I WANT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

15:15:02 BUT I WANTS THE RECORDS TO BE CLEAR ON WHO HAS WHAT, HOW

15:15:06 IT'S BEING RENTED, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A TOPIC OF

15:15:09 DISCUSSION.

15:15:10 SO I JUST HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT THIS ONE.

15:15:14 THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

15:15:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAID, AND IF I MAY,

15:15:18 MR. CHAIRMAN.

15:15:20 THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.

15:15:23 THE OTHERS ARE NOT.

15:15:26 I JUST BROUGHT THAT UP, INSTEAD OF LOOKING THROUGH A NARROW

15:15:31 HOLE IN THE WALL I WANT TO LOOK THROUGH A THICK TELESCOPE SO

15:15:35 I CAN SEE IT ALL.

15:15:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

15:15:39 I JUST POINT TO THE CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED

15:15:41 WITH, SPECIFICALLY SECTION 27-132 AND SECTION 27-129.

15:15:48 AGAIN, YOU ARE PRESENTED WITH THIS PARTICULAR SET OF FACTS,

15:15:50 AND THIS IS THE PETITION THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY.

15:15:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER

15:15:57 CARLSON WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.

15:16:00 ROLL CALL.

15:16:01 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

15:16:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

15:16:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:

15:16:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: VERY RELUCTANTLY YES.




15:16:15 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

15:16:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

15:16:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

15:16:19 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

15:16:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

15:16:24 WE GO TO STAFF REPORTS.

15:16:26 AND UNDER THAT, I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER 29, BECAUSE OF THE

15:16:32 AMOUNT OF $4.4 MILLION, WE HAVE THAT -- WELL, THERE'S A

15:16:42 SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION ON IT?

15:16:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE CLERK JUST CAUGHT A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERA

15:16:56 THAT WE CAN CORRECT UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

15:16:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY HERE UNDER ITEM 29?

15:17:06 THIS IS THE AMENDMENT.

15:17:08 DID WE PASS 29?

15:17:09 SO THAT'S ALREADY SET.

15:17:10 OKAY.

15:17:11 SO I HAVE THE ADDENDUM.

15:17:21 THAT WILL BE A PRESENTATION LATER ON.

15:17:26 THERE'S NO ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.

15:17:27 ITEM NUMBER 44.

15:17:28 THIS IS TAMPA UNION STATION COFFEE SHOP/INCUBATOR PROPOSAL.

15:17:32 ROB ROSNER.

15:17:38 >>BILL CARLSON: HE'S GIVEN A REPORT AND PRESENTATION.

15:17:40 THANK YOU FOR THAT.

15:17:41 MY CONCERN WHICH I EXPRESSED DURING THE CRA MEETING IS JUST




15:17:45 THAT THIS IS BEING PUSHED WAY OUT IN THE FUTURE, AND THE

15:17:49 REASON IS THAT THE FRIEND OF TAMPA UNION STATION AND THE

15:17:55 CITY IN CONVERSATIONS HAVE DECIDED TO SEEK GRANTS FOR THE

15:17:59 ADDITIONAL 1.5 MILLION.

15:18:01 SO I SPOKE TO MS. TRAVIS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION

15:18:06 TO ASK THE CITY STAFF AND CRA STAFF TO WORK ON AN AGREEMENT

15:18:12 BETWEEN CRA, THE CITY, AND IF NECESSARY FRIEND OF TAMPA

15:18:18 UNION STATION TO HAVE THE CRA FUND THE ADDITIONAL 1.5

15:18:27 MILLION SUBJECT TO REIMBURSEMENT BY THE CITY FOR FRIEND OF

15:18:35 TAMPA UNION STATION WITH ANY GRANT FUNDS RECEIVED.

15:18:40 THAT WAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL SAW THE LETTER TO THE

15:18:44 EDITOR IN THE PAPER BUT THE MAYOR IS MAKING THE SAME

15:18:48 ARGUMENT AS A LITTLE WHILE AGO THAT THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION

15:18:50 IS GOING UP AND THE ESTIMATES WE HAVE GOTTEN ON THE TAMPA

15:18:53 UNION STATION ARE GOING TO GO UP IF THEY DELAY THIS AND THEY

15:18:56 WOULD LIKE TO MOVE RIGHT AWAY.

15:18:57 SO IF WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE FUNDS, WE HAVE TO VOTE ON

15:19:01 IT AGAIN IN CRA, BUT IF WE PROVIDE THESE FUNDS IMMEDIATELY

15:19:04 THEY CAN DO THE RENOVATION AND THE BUILDING AT THE SAME TIME

15:19:08 WHICH WILL SAVE MONEY, NOT ONLY IN COSTS BUT ALSO BY DOING

15:19:11 BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.

15:19:12 AND THEN WE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO GET REIMBURSED.

15:19:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CARLSON, SECOND BY MIRANDA.

15:19:18 DISCUSSION?

15:19:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




15:19:20 I AM FOR THIS, BUT HAS CRA PUT ANY MONEY INTO THIS SO FAR?

15:19:29 >>BILL CARLSON: WE VOTED ON --

15:19:31 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IT WAS A MILLION DOLLARS.

15:19:33 WE DISCUSSED THAT EARLIER THIS WEEK.

15:19:35 IT WAS A MILLION DOLLARS PUT IN THE BUDGET.

15:19:37 THAT ITEM IS STILL THERE.

15:19:38 I THINK IT'S LIKE 976,000 BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME, I DON'T

15:19:43 KNOW, STUDY OR SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE.

15:19:45 BUT THERE IS A MILLION DOLLARS THERE IN THE BUDGET RIGHT

15:19:47 NOW.

15:19:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND THIS IS ANOTHER 1.5 ON TOP OF THAT?

15:19:53 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: MR. CARLSON IS ASKING FOR A 1.25 FOR

15:19:56 REMEDIATION AND REPAIR OF THE BUILDING IN ADVANCE, IF WE DID

15:20:01 GRANT FUND.

15:20:02 THAT WOULD MEAN IF WE DON'T GET GRANT FUND THE CRA WOULD BE

15:20:05 PUTTING IN THAT MONEY WITHOUT REIMBURSEMENT.

15:20:07 BUT WE COULD STILL SEEK THAT ALONG THE WAY.

15:20:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND THE 900 THAT YOU PLUS WAS FROM CRA,

15:20:14 EXCUSE ME, YBOR CRA 1?

15:20:20 >> YOU ARE ASKING ME QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS

15:20:22 TO BUT I KNOW ROB ROSNER --

15:20:26 >> DOWNTOWN CRA.

15:20:27 OKAY.

15:20:27 >> BECAUSE IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO GASWORX PROJECT.

15:20:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I STAND CORRECTED.




15:20:33 THANK YOU.

15:20:33 AGAIN, THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET.

15:20:37 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES.

15:20:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANKS VERY MUCH.

15:20:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARLSON HAS A MOTION, SECOND BY

15:20:43 MIRANDA.

15:20:44 YES, MA'AM.

15:20:44 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]

15:20:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU WANT?

15:20:53 MAY, THERE'S A REGULAR MEETING IN MAY?

15:20:58 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YOU ARE ASKING FOR THE CRA BOARD TO --

15:21:01 >>BILL CARLSON: FOR STAFF TO COME BACK WITH AN AGREEMENT

15:21:03 BETWEEN CRA AND CITY, BECAUSE THE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY, AND

15:21:08 THEY WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THE AGREEMENT, IT WILL SAY THAT

15:21:12 CRA WILL UPFRONT THE MONEY BUT THEN THE CITY WILL REIMBURSE

15:21:17 IF WE GET GRANTS.

15:21:20 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

15:21:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY 19th UNDER STAFF REPORTS?

15:21:24 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME

15:21:26 TO DRAFT AN AGREEMENT.

15:21:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUNE 16th?

15:21:33 THAT'S ALMOST 60 DAYS OUT.

15:21:35 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: 60 DAYS FOR US TO GO TO THE CAC, GET THE

15:21:41 AGREEMENT AND COME BACK?

15:21:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO JUNE 16th THAT DAY AND THEN WE




15:21:47 GO INTO SUMMER BREAK.

15:21:48 HOW ABOUT JULY 14th?

15:21:51 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IF WE GET IT DONE BEFORE THAT I WILL BRING

15:21:54 IT TO YOU TO YOU BEFORE THAT.

15:21:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER FOR

15:21:58 JULY 14th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

15:22:00 COUNCILMAN MEMBER CARLSON WITH A MOTION.

15:22:02 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:22:04 ROLL CALL.

15:22:04 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

15:22:10 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

15:22:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

15:22:13 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

15:22:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

15:22:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

15:22:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

15:22:17 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

15:22:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THAT WILL COVER ALL OF 44, SO YOU

15:22:22 ARE SATISFIED?

15:22:23 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE JUST TALK ABOUT 47 SINCE IT'S THE

15:22:25 SAME TOPIC?

15:22:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABOUT UNION STATION?

15:22:29 SURE.

15:22:29 47.

15:22:31 >>BILL CARLSON: I ALSO TALKED TO MS. TRAVIS ABOUT THIS.




15:22:33 THIS IS FOR THE WORLD WAR II MEMORIAL.

15:22:35 AND I TALKED TO JACKSON, HE AND HIS FATHER THAT HELPED SAVE

15:22:42 THIS STATION, JACKSON ALSO IN ATLANTA HISTORY CENTER, AND HE

15:22:46 SAID THAT THEY PUT UP A WORLD WAR II MEMORIAL AT THE ATLANTA

15:22:49 HISTORY CENTER, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DID WAS THEY SET

15:22:52 UP A STEERING COMMITTEE OR ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SETTING UP

15:22:55 AND OFFICIAL COMMITTEE IS COMPLICATED BUT I WONDER IF -- IT

15:23:00 WOULD BE GREAT IF ROBIN NIGH'S DEPARTMENT COULD BE INVOLVED

15:23:05 IN THIS BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S A CITY PROPERTY, THE CRA

15:23:08 DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT TO GET THIS DONE.

15:23:10 THE CRA COULD GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF DECIDING WHAT THE

15:23:14 STATUE SHOULD BE, IF WE WOULD GO THROUGH CITY PURCHASING TO

15:23:19 HIRE AN ARTIST, AND THEN THAT WOULD COME BACK TO THE CRA

15:23:25 BOARD.

15:23:25 THE ONLY THING YOU ARE REALLY SAYING IN YOUR DOCUMENT IS WE

15:23:29 DON'T WANT TO PUT A STATUE INSIDE THE BUILDING WHILE IT'S

15:23:32 BEING RENOVATED BUT IT COULD OUTSIDE IN FRONT OR IN BACK,

15:23:37 AND I THINK THAT PROCESS COULD GO CONCURRENTLY.

15:23:39 IF IT HAPPENS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO INSIDE, WE COULD

15:23:42 ALWAYS PUT IT SOMEWHERE AND THEN THERE'S A STORAGE AREA

15:23:46 THERE TOO THAT WE CAN PUT IT IN.

15:23:47 SO MY REQUEST, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK CITY

15:23:54 STAFF TO WORK WITH CRA STAFF AND POSSIBLY THE PUBLIC ART

15:23:59 COMMITTEE, OR DEPARTMENT, TO SET UP AN AD HOC STEERING

15:24:05 COMMITTEE MADE UP OF WORLD WAR II VETERANS TO MOVE THIS




15:24:10 PROCESS FORWARD RIGHT AWAY.

15:24:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE THAT, JULY 14th

15:24:16 AS WELL UNDER STAFF REPORTS?

15:24:17 >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEN GET AN UPDATE ON JULY 14th

15:24:20 ALSO.

15:24:20 THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

15:24:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT PLENTY OF TIME?

15:24:24 I'M ON THE ARTS COUNCIL BOARD, AND WE WILL BE MEETING IN

15:24:27 BETWEEN THAT.

15:24:27 >>OCEA WYNN: NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.

15:24:34 ARTS AND CULTURAL AFFAIRS FALLS WITHIN MY PORTFOLIO. YES,

15:24:40 WE CAN DEFINITELY PUT BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER TO PRESENT AT

15:24:43 THE SAME TIME WHEN BRINGING TOGETHER A COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT

15:24:47 THIS.

15:24:48 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER

15:24:51 IS BRINGING A TIMELINE TO SHOW THE CONCURRENT PATHS FOR THE

15:24:55 ART PIECE AS WELL AS THE CONSTRUCTION PIECE, THE SUBSEQUENT

15:24:59 ART PIECE, JUST SO THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE THE TIMELINE OF

15:25:02 WHEN THINGS CAN HAPPEN CONCURRENTLY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

15:25:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU WANTED WORLD

15:25:08 WAR II VETERANS TO BE ON THE --

15:25:11 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXCLUSIVELY

15:25:13 WORLD WAR II VETERANS BUT THAT'S WHAT JACKSON RECOMMENDED.

15:25:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW A FEW AND ONE IN PARTICULAR,

15:25:18 HE'S GOT TO BE 98, 97, AND I THINK HE WAS AT UNION STATION




15:25:24 BECAUSE DID HE GO TO THE PACIFIC.

15:25:26 HIS BROTHER WAS STATION A IT DREW FIELD.

15:25:29 HE PASSED AWAY.

15:25:30 BUT I COULD REACH OUT TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT

15:25:32 COULD TELL YOU, AS AN EYEWITNESS, WE WERE AT THAT TRAIN

15:25:39 STATION.

15:25:39 >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE YOU CAN TELL NICOLE AS INTERIM CRA

15:25:42 PERSON, BUT GARY MORMINO HAS ALSO INTERVIEWED THE WORLD WAR

15:25:44 II VETERANS, SO HE WOULD OFFER TO PARTICIPATE.

15:25:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND BY

15:25:53 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:25:54 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:25:56 ALL RIGHT.

15:25:56 NUMBER 45.

15:25:59 JC HUDGISON.

15:26:02 THEN ABBYE FEELEY.

15:26:04 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN.

15:26:05 NUMBER 45.

15:26:06 >>ABBYE FEELEY: DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH

15:26:08 MANAGEMENT.

15:26:09 AND I DO HAVE JC HUDGISON WITH ME THIS AFTERNOON.

15:26:13 THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.

15:26:14 ITEM NUMBER 45 ON YOUR AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON IS A MOTION

15:26:17 THAT WAS FROM AUGUST 5th AND THAT WAS TO REPORT ON THE

15:26:22 POSSIBLE IMPLEMENTATION TO AUDIT BUILDINGS.




15:26:26 WE DID COME BEFORE YOU AND DISCUSSED MONITORING WHAT WAS

15:26:33 GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE THIS SESSION IN

15:26:36 RELATION TO THIS MATTER.

15:26:38 THERE WERE TWO BILLS, TWO SENATE BILLS THAT LOOKED AT THE

15:26:42 POTENTIAL OF THIS, AND NEITHER OF THOSE BILLS MADE IT

15:26:47 THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE THIS SESSION.

15:26:50 SO AT THIS TIME, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO RECOMMEND THAT

15:26:55 WE LOOK AT SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND THE VIABILITY AND

15:26:59 ENFORCEMENT OF SOMETHING POTENTIAL, BUT JUST TO CONTINUE TO

15:27:03 KEEP A PULSE ON WHAT IS GOING ON AT THE STATE LEVEL IN

15:27:06 RELATION, BECAUSE THIS WOULD REALLY BE MORE OF A BUILDING

15:27:08 CODE MATTER THAN IT WOULD AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

15:27:13 SO THAT IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

15:27:14 THAT'S THE MEMORANDUM WE PROVIDED FOR YOU, APRIL 13th

15:27:17 DATED MEMO.

15:27:18 WE ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

15:27:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

15:27:23 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU BROUGHT THIS FORWARD.

15:27:24 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, COMMISSIONER OVERMAN ASKED TO US LOOK

15:27:30 AT THIS.

15:27:30 I THINK SHE WANTED SOMETHING THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT

15:27:32 SHE HAD PROPOSED AT THE COUNTY.

15:27:34 DO YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE THAT NOW?

15:27:37 >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE ARE NOT PURSUING A CERTIFICATION, A

15:27:39 BUILDING CERTIFICATION PROGRAM WITHIN THE CITY AT THIS TIME.




15:27:42 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA OR YOU ARE

15:27:47 WAITING FOR THE STATE?

15:27:50 >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING WHAT THE STATE HAS

15:27:51 BEEN DOING.

15:27:52 THERE ARE OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE HAD IN

15:27:55 RELATIONSHIP TO THIS.

15:27:56 SOME PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT BUILDINGS OVER 30 YEARS IN AGE.

15:27:59 THAT WOULD BE ANYTHING CONSTRUCTED FROM 1992 FORWARD.

15:28:03 AT THIS TIME.

15:28:04 AND ALSO THE LEGAL LIABILITY OF PUTTING INTO PLACE A

15:28:07 CERTIFICATION PROCESS THAT YOU THEN GO OUT, YOU CERTIFY

15:28:12 SOMETHING, OR YOU HAVE ANOTHER ENTITY CERTIFY, ENGINEERING

15:28:17 COMPANY OR WHATEVER, AND THEY COME BACK, THEY SAY SOMETHING

15:28:19 IS WRONG.

15:28:20 YOU KNOW, THERE'S MULTIPLE FACTORS TO THIS PROGRAM, AND WE

15:28:25 REALLY WERE WAITING FOR THAT OTHER DIRECTION.

15:28:28 WE ARE HAPPY TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.

15:28:31 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT MRS. LUTZ AT THE COUNTY EITHER HAS AT

15:28:37 THIS MOMENT IN TIME.

15:28:39 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

15:28:41 OKAY, THANK YOU.

15:28:42 WE APPRECIATE YOU.

15:28:43 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:28:44 NEXT WE ARE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER 46.

15:28:47 ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 46?




15:28:49 >>OCEA WYNN: ADMINISTRATOR, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.

15:29:02 COUNCILMAN GUDES, MY CONDOLENCES.

15:29:04 I WAS JUST AT AN EVENT WITH DEBBIE LAST WEDNESDAY.

15:29:07 WE SAT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, SO IT WAS VERY HEART WRENCHING TO

15:29:11 HEAR THE NEWS SO MY CONDOLENCES TO YOU.

15:29:15 I WAS ASKED TO APPEAR BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY ON THE

15:29:19 POSSIBILITY OF CREATING A COMPLAINT REGISTRY FOR LANDLORD.

15:29:23 AND IF YOU RECALL, CODE ENFORCEMENT WE REPORTED LAST OCTOBER

15:29:29 WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO COME AND CREATE A RECOMMENDATION STRIP

15:29:32 FOR LANDLORDS, TO REALIZE WHAT EFFICIENCIES THAT WE COULD

15:29:36 REALIZE TO IMPROVE THE CURRENT PROGRAM.

15:29:38 IF YOU RECALL, THE RENTAL CERTIFICATE PROGRAM IS ONE WHERE

15:29:42 THE LANDLORDS SELF CERTIFY THAT THE UNITS COMPLY WITH THE

15:29:49 MINIMUM HOUSING STANDARDS, BUT THIS IS WITHOUT AN INSPECTION

15:29:54 FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT.

15:29:56 SO WHAT WE DID IS THAT WE ASSESSED THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

15:29:59 PROPERTY TO SEE WHAT DO THEY DO FOR THEIR LANDLORDS?

15:30:08 WE FOUND OUT THAT THEY INVESTIGATE, WHAT THEY HAVE IS A

15:30:12 PROGRAM WHERE THEY INVESTIGATE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF

15:30:15 USE THROUGH THE COMPLAINTS IN AN ONLINE PROCESS.

15:30:21 AND WE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU THAT WE COULD DO A NUMBER OF

15:30:24 THINGS.

15:30:24 WE WOULD GET RID OF THE IN-KIND PROGRAM BECAUSE IT WAS IN

15:30:29 FACT INEFFICIENT.

15:30:30 WE'LL REPLACE THAT PROGRAM AND IMPLEMENT A PROACTIVE PROCESS




15:30:34 THAT RANDOMLY SELECTS THE RENTAL PROPERTIES FOR INSPECTIONS.

15:30:39 WE GET THOSE LISTS OF RENTALS OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS FROM

15:30:45 THE BUSINESS TAX OFFICE.

15:30:48 IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE SAID THAT WE WOULD CREATE AN ONLINE

15:30:53 PORTAL PROCESS SIMILAR TO THAT AT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OFFICE

15:31:00 HAS.

15:31:01 IN THAT PROCESS THAT WE WILL PUT OUR LINK ON THE CODE

15:31:03 ENFORCEMENT WEBSITE, AND THAT LINK WILL LINK TO -- ALLOW US

15:31:09 TO GET THOSE CODE COMPLAINTS AND THOSE VIOLATIONS.

15:31:12 AND LINK TO THE SPACE WEBSITE SO THEY CAN GET ISSUES AS

15:31:18 WELL.

15:31:19 SO MY QUESTIONS TO YOU IS, WE PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION.

15:31:23 WE SAID THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE ONLINE PROCESS UP AND RUNNING

15:31:27 BEFORE THE NEXT ROUND OF THE CERTIFICATES, AND WE ARE

15:31:32 LOOKING AT A JUNE-JULY TIME FRAME, AND WE ARE STILL ON TRACK

15:31:36 WITH THAT.

15:31:37 SO MUCH MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHAT QUESTIONS CAN I HAVE THAT

15:31:41 ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY PRESENTED AND

15:31:43 COMMITTED, TO WHAT WE WERE GOING TO ALREADY DO?

15:31:46 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:31:47 I KNOW COUNCILMAN GUDES OR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WHICH ONE

15:31:54 WANTS TO GO FIRST.

15:31:55 >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I THINK IS ALREADY A

15:31:58 BIG DEAL BUT IT'S GOING TO BECOME MUCH LARGER WITH THIS

15:32:01 HOUSING CRISIS WE HAVE.




15:32:02 MY CONCERN IS HOW ARE WE FINDING THE -- AND I AM THINKING

15:32:11 NOT ONLY OF THE ONES THAT ARE LEGAL PER SE, BUT THE ONES

15:32:14 THAT PEOPLE WHO BUILT OUT IN THEIR GARAGE OR THINGS LIKE

15:32:19 THAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO FIND THOSE AND BRING THEM INTO

15:32:23 COMPLIANCE?

15:32:23 IS THAT JUST GOING TO BE A CODE MATTER?

15:32:28 WYNN ONE WHEN WE GET COMPLAINT, WE HAVE OUR CODE OFFICERS TO

15:32:30 GO AND INVESTIGATE TO SEE IF THEY ARE LEGITIMATE OR NOT, AND

15:32:37 IF THEY ARE NOT, WE DO ISSUE CODE VIOLATIONS ACCORDINGLY.

15:32:41 WE DO NOT HAVE A PROACTIVE PROCESS WHERE WE GO THROUGH THE

15:32:45 NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOOK FOR THESE SITUATIONS.

15:32:49 SO THEY ARE COMPLAINT DRIVEN.

15:32:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:32:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS I AM LOOKING AT ANOTHER PICTURE A

15:32:59 LITTLE BIT.

15:32:59 WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND NOT HAVE

15:33:06 ANY AUTHORITY TO DEAL WITH THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE FOUR OR

15:33:09 FIVE ADDITIONS.

15:33:11 YOU KNOW, WEAVE PROBABLY MAYBE IF WE COULD USE A MUTUAL AID

15:33:19 AGREEMENT TO DO SOME STUFF, THAT OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T HAVE

15:33:22 THE STAFF.

15:33:24 I AM JUST CURIOUS.

15:33:26 MAYBE SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO TO SEE WHO TO GET IN TOUCH

15:33:29 WITH, MAYBE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE CAN COME IN AND BE ABLE TO

15:33:34 MOVE CLOSER.




15:33:35 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

15:33:37 MR. GUDES, WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT ISSUE.

15:33:41 I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THAT'S PENDING.

15:33:44 THE MAJOR ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORTH ESPECIALLY FOR

15:33:48 THE CITY.

15:33:48 SO WE WILL WORK TO SEE WHO WE CAN COORDINATE WITH REGARDING

15:33:53 THAT.

15:33:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU NEED A MOTION OR JUST --

15:33:57 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: WE'LL HANDLE IT.

15:33:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?

15:34:00 YES, SIR.

15:34:00 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, ALL

15:34:04 YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.

15:34:05 SO YOU ARE LOOKING AT HAVING WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT BY

15:34:11 JUNE, JULY, WHAT YOU ARE THINKING?

15:34:15 >>OCEA WYNN: WE COMMIT TO HAVING IT TO YOU BY JULY AND

15:34:17 DEFINITELY BEFORE WE SEND OUT THE NOTIFICATIONS.

15:34:20 SO THE NOTIFICATIONS WILL STILL GO OUT.

15:34:22 THESE ARE THE ONES THAT SAY YOU HAVE TO STAFF CERTIFY.

15:34:25 BUT THIS YEAR THEY ARE SAYING YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO

15:34:32 SELF-CERTIFY.

15:34:33 >>LUIS VIERA: MAYBE WE COULD MOTION TO HAVE THIS COME BACK

15:34:35 TO US IN JUNE OR JULY FOR A SUMMARY AND UPDATE OF WHAT'S

15:34:40 GOING TO BE GIVEN, AND TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL OPTIONS.

15:34:43 I KNOW THAT OTHER CITIES AND JURISDICTIONS SUCH AS BROWARD




15:34:48 AND GAINESVILLE HAVE A DIFFERENT ORDINANCE THAT DEAL WITH

15:34:51 THIS USUAL YOU AS WELL, BUT MAYBE WE COULD JUST HAVE THIS

15:34:55 JUST COME BACK TO US IN JUNE.

15:34:58 DOES THAT SOUND --

15:35:00 >>OCEA WYNN: MAY I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION?

15:35:02 SINCE WE ARE SENDING -- STARTING A NEW PROCESS, I WOULD LIKE

15:35:07 TO BE BRING BACK HOW THAT'S WORKING.

15:35:09 SO IF WE CAN JUST PUSH IT OUT MAYBE TO AUGUST.

15:35:13 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE WEBSITE IS WORKING OR IS NOT

15:35:17 WORKING.

15:35:17 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THAT'S A GREAT IDEA SO WE CAN SEE WHAT'S

15:35:20 WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT WORKING AND WE CAN BUILD UPON IT

15:35:23 GIVEN THE EXPERIENCES OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

15:35:26 YES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

15:35:28 AGAIN THE REASON, I KNOW A LOT OF US FEEL VERY PASSIONATE

15:35:31 ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES

15:35:33 IN TAMPA AND THESE LARGE APARTMENTS WHERE YOU GO AND YOU

15:35:37 TAKE A LOOK AT THEM, AS MANY OF US HAVE DONE MANY, MANY

15:35:40 TIMES WHETHER IT'S SILVER OAKS OR TIMBER FALLS OR MANY OTHER

15:35:44 PLACES, AND IT'S JUST NOT HABITABLE, IT'S TERRIBLE, AND

15:35:48 PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THEIR RIGHTS.

15:35:50 EITHER THERE ARE MORAL AND EQUITABLE RIGHTS AND DIGNITY OR

15:35:54 LEGAL RIGHTS AND WHATNOT.

15:35:56 SO I COMMEND YOU GUYS FOR YOUR WORK IN THIS REGARD, AND I

15:36:00 MOTION FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.




15:36:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO BRING BACK AN UPDATE, STAFF

15:36:04 REPORTS, AUGUST 25th.

15:36:07 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HURTAK.

15:36:10 YES, SIR?

15:36:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU THINK BY THAT TIME MAYBE YOU WILL

15:36:14 HAVE GOTTEN SOME ANSWERS YAY OR NAY REFERENCE THE MOTION?

15:36:20 >> YES, SIR.

15:36:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

15:36:25 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:36:26 ANY OPPOSED?

15:36:27 OKAY.

15:36:29 ITEM NUMBER 49.

15:36:31 COUNCILMEMBER VIERA'S MOTION.

15:36:32 >>LUIS VIERA: NOISE ORDINANCE, OF COURSE.

15:36:42 WE HAVE HAD A FINE GENTLEMAN SITTING HERE FOR A WHILE.

15:36:45 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ADMINISTRATOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC

15:36:51 OPPORTUNITY.

15:36:52 COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU ASKED US TO PUT TOGETHER A PUBLIC

15:36:55 ENGAGEMENT PLAN IN ADVANCING THE EFFORTS TO AMEND THE NOISE

15:36:59 ORDINANCE, AND WHAT WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY IS A

15:37:04 ROUGH OUTLINE OF OUR ATTEMPT TO TACKLE THIS PUBLIC

15:37:07 ENGAGEMENT PIECE.

15:37:13 WE ARE PLANNING TO SCHEDULE TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS, ONE IN MAY

15:37:17 AND ONE IN JUNE, AND SEPARATE THEM ONE FOR RESIDENTS AND ONE

15:37:20 FOR BUSINESS OWNERS.




15:37:22 WHAT I PUT ON THE OVERHEAD IS JUST THE SAME THING I AM

15:37:25 TALKING TO YOU ABOUT NOW, IS THE TWO MEETINGS, AS WELL AS

15:37:29 THERE'S A PRIVATE CITIZEN GROUP THAT IS CONSISTENT FOR

15:37:36 RESIDENTIAL -- THANK YOU.

15:37:38 YEAH, THANK YOU.

15:37:42 BUT AS FAR AS THE ENGAGEMENT AND PUTTING THIS MEETING

15:37:45 TOGETHER.

15:37:46 SO WE'LL HAVE TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS, ONE FOR BUSINESS OWNERS

15:37:49 AND ONE FOR RESIDENTS THAT WE WILL HOLD IN MAY AND IN JUNE.

15:37:54 CONCURRENTLY THERE'S A PRIVATE CITIZENS GROUP THAT I KNOW

15:37:56 HAS REACHED OUT TO A NUMBER OF YOU THAT CONSISTS OF ITS A

15:38:00 DEVELOPER THAT HAS PUT THIS GROUP TOGETHER, BUSINESSES AND

15:38:03 RESIDENTIAL.

15:38:03 WE WOULD INVITE THEM TO THOSE TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE

15:38:07 ARE HOSTING, AS WELL AS THEY CAN CONCURRENTLY GO AHEAD TO

15:38:11 STUDY THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND DEVELOP SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.

15:38:16 WE KNOW THAT ENFORCEMENT IS A BIG PART OF THIS NOISE

15:38:22 ORDINANCE.

15:38:22 WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE TAMPA POLICE

15:38:25 DEPARTMENT AND CAPTAIN OWEN.

15:38:27 THEY WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE AT THOSE MEETINGS, AS WELL AS WE

15:38:30 WILL SEEK INPUT TO ADDRESS OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND, SEPARATE

15:38:37 STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL AREAS VERSUS AREAS THAT HAVE HIGH

15:38:41 CONCENTRATION OF COMMERCIAL, RESTAURANTS AND BARS, AND WHAT

15:38:44 THAT MIXED USE MAY LOOK LIKE.




15:38:46 WE ARE ALSO GOING TO -- THERE'S A LOT OF CONFLICT BETWEEN

15:38:50 THE MIXED USE WHEN YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL ON TOP OF

15:38:52 COMMERCIAL.

15:38:52 WE ARE GOING TO PUT THAT OUT THERE TO SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY

15:38:55 SAYS, AS WELL.

15:38:56 SO I DO HAVE A REQUEST WITH THIS PUBL