CITY OF TAMPA
THURSDAY, MAY 5, 2022
9:00 A.M.
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09:01:05 >> MY NAME IS SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK FOR THE CITY
09:03:46 OF TAMPA.
09:03:46 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:03:50 >> CARLSON?
09:03:51 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:03:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:03:55 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:03:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:04:01 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:04:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:04:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:04:04 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:04:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MADAM CLERK, DID YOU HEAR COUNCILWOMAN
09:04:10 HURTAK?
09:04:11 >>THE CLERK: YES, IT WAS VERY FAINT.
09:04:13 >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY.
09:04:15 I DON'T HAVE GREAT INTERNET HERE.
09:04:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
09:04:19 GOOD MORNING.
09:04:19 MADAM CLERK?
09:04:23 THANK YOU.
09:04:26 CITY COUNCIL, AS YOU SEE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS GOING TO BE
09:04:30 APPEARING REMOTELY.
09:04:31 PURSUANT TO COUNCIL'S RULES, SHE HAS REQUESTED THAT SHE DO
09:04:36 PARTICIPATE.
09:04:37 AND RULE 3 G-2 REQUIRES A VOTE OF COUNCIL PRIOR TO
09:04:46 PARTICIPATION MAKING SUCH A REQUEST.
09:04:48 IS THERE A MOTION FOR HER TO DO THAT?
09:04:50 >> SO MOVED.
09:04:53 >> SECOND.
09:05:01 >>THE CLERK: GUDES MOTION AND MIRANDA SECOND.
09:05:09 >> [SPEAKING OFF MICROPHONE]
09:05:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MADAM CLERK, DO YOU WANT TO ASK THOSE IN
09:05:17 FAVOR?
09:05:17 THAT'S TRUE, THERE IS NO CHAIR RIGHT NOW.
09:05:19 >>THE CLERK: THOSE IN FAVOR?
09:05:21 >> AYE.
09:05:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:05:22 THAT'S A FIRST.
09:05:26 >>THE CLERK: WE WILL NOW CONDUCT THE ELECTION FOR CHAIRMAN
09:05:28 AND CHAIRMAN PRO TEM FOR THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
09:05:30 HERE ARE THE ELECTION GUIDELINES.
09:05:33 THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIRMAN WILL BE HELD FIRST.
09:05:37 NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND.
09:05:40 PLEASE WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED BEFORE NOMINATING A CANDIDATE.
09:05:45 I WILL OPEN THE NOMINATIONS AND CLOSE THEM AFTER ALL
09:05:48 NOMINATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.
09:05:51 VOTES WILL BE COUNTED BY RAISING THE HAND.
09:05:54 THE VOTE WILL BE TAKEN IN THE ORDER OF THE NOMINATION.
09:05:57 BEGINNING WITH THE FIRST NAME NOMINATED.
09:06:01 THE VOTE WILL CEASE AS SOON AS THERE IS A MAJORITY, WHICH
09:06:06 REQUIRES FOUR VOTES.
09:06:08 HAVING SAID THAT, NOMINATIONS ARE NOW IN ORDER FOR CHAIRMAN.
09:06:11 MR. GUDES.
09:06:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BILL CARLSON.
09:06:15 >>THE CLERK: BILL CARLSON HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
09:06:19 IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
09:06:21 YES, MR. MIRANDA.
09:06:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
09:06:25 >>THE CLERK: MR. CITRO HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
09:06:28 IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
09:06:29 I WILL CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS ON BILL CARLSON AND MR. CITRO.
09:06:37 ALL IN FAVOR OF BILL CARLSON, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
09:06:45 OKAY.
09:06:46 THAT'S THREE.
09:06:47 ALL IN FAVOR OF MR. CITRO, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
09:06:55 MS. HURTAK?
09:06:57 DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND?
09:07:05 DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND?
09:07:12 >>LYNN HURTAK: ARE YOU ASKING ME?
09:07:14 >>THE CLERK: YES.
09:07:15 >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY.
09:07:16 I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING.
09:07:18 YES, I RAISE MY HAND.
09:07:20 >>THE CLERK: YOU RAISE YOUR HAND FOR MR. CITRO?
09:07:25 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I DID.
09:07:26 >>THE CLERK: MR. CITRO, YOU'VE BEEN ELECTED CHAIRMAN.
09:07:31 WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
09:07:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE AFFIRMATIVE
09:07:36 VOTES.
09:07:36 I DO APPRECIATE IT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A WONDERFUL YEAR AS
09:07:39 CHAIR OF CITY COUNCIL AND HELPING THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:07:43 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
09:07:43 WE NOW HAVE THE ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN PRO TEM.
09:07:54 IS THERE A NOMINATION?
09:07:56 MR. CITRO.
09:07:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE COUNCILWOMAN LYNN
09:08:01 HURTAK.
09:08:04 >>THE CLERK: MS. HURTAK HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
09:08:06 IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
09:08:11 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHO I WAS GOING TO NOMINATE.
09:08:13 SO I TAKE IT OUT.
09:08:14 >>THE CLERK: IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
09:08:16 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO NOMINATE GUIDO.
09:08:19 I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:08:22 SORRY.
09:08:22 SORRY.
09:08:28 I'VE HAD SIX CAPPUCCINOS.
09:08:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT TRYING TO GET INVOLVED IN THE
09:08:34 PROCESS, BUT SHE HAS AT LEAST DECLINED THE OFFER SHE WAS
09:08:37 GIVEN.
09:08:41 >>THE CLERK: MS. HURTAK, ARE YOU ACCEPTING THE NOMINATION
09:08:45 FOR CHAIRMAN PRO TEM?
09:08:48 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, YES.
09:08:50 I GUESS.
09:08:51 YES.
09:08:53 ARE WE DOING THE SAME PROCESS AS WE WERE BEFORE?
09:08:56 >>THE CLERK: YES.
09:08:57 SO YOU'RE ACCEPTING.
09:09:01 ALL IN FAVOR OF MS. HURTAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
09:09:07 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M GOING TO BE -- I KNOW WE TRADITIONALLY
09:09:10 NEVER SPEAK DURING THIS THING, BUT I WAS PLANNING ON
09:09:13 NOMINATING MS. HURTAK, BUT IF SHE'S NOMINATED COUNCILMAN
09:09:17 MANISCALCO, OUT OF DEFERENCE TO HER, I'LL TAKE THAT INTO
09:09:20 ACCOUNT.
09:09:21 I WAS PLANNING ON NOMINATING HER.
09:09:23 THAT'S ALL I WAS GOING TO SAY.
09:09:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MADAM CLERK, IF I CAN JUST
09:09:28 INQUIRE, IN THIS PROCESS, IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR SOMEBODY WHO
09:09:32 IS NOMINATED TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY ELSE?
09:09:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU
09:09:39 MS. HURTAK IS NOT NEXT DOOR.
09:09:43 SHE'S DOING FAMILY BUSINESS AND SHE'S THOUSANDS OF MILES
09:09:46 AWAY.
09:09:46 SO THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN THE SYSTEM, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE
09:09:49 GREAT TECHNOLOGY, THERE'S STILL THREE OR FOUR SECOND DELAY
09:09:53 OR MAYBE MORE.
09:09:54 THAT'S WHY SHE'S NOT ACTIVELY ENGAGING BECAUSE IT AIN'T HER.
09:09:59 IT IS THE SYSTEM SHE'S IN.
09:10:00 >>THE CLERK: OKAY.
09:10:02 I WILL CLOSE THE NOMINATION FOR MS. HURTAK AND
09:10:06 MR. MANISCALCO.
09:10:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, I'M SORRY.
09:10:09 FORGIVE ME, THIS IS VERY UNUSUAL.
09:10:12 BUT THE QUESTION REMAINS -- [PHONE RINGING] -- SHE ACCEPTS
09:10:17 THE NOMINATION, WAS THAT STATED?
09:10:19 I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
09:10:21 OKAY.
09:10:21 VERY GOOD.
09:10:22 THANK YOU.
09:10:25 >>THE CLERK: ALL IN FAVOR OF LYNN HURTAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR
09:10:29 HAND.
09:10:29 OKAY.
09:10:34 ALL IN FAVOR OF MR. MANISCALCO, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
09:10:37 OKAY.
09:10:39 MR. MANISCALCO.
09:10:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:10:47 I APPRECIATE IT.
09:10:49 THAT'S ALWAYS AN HONOR TO SERVE EACH AND EVERY DAY THIS
09:10:53 WONDERFUL COMMUNITY.
09:10:54 I AM GRATEFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
09:10:55 THANK YOU.
09:10:59 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
09:11:00 WE WILL NOW HAVE THE ELECTION OF CRA CHAIRMAN AND
09:11:05 VICE-CHAIRMAN.
09:11:06 THE GUIDELINES ARE THE SAME.
09:11:09 IS THERE A NOMINATION FOR CRA CHAIRMAN?
09:11:12 YES, MR. GUDES.
09:11:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BILL CARLSON.
09:11:20 >>THE CLERK: MR. CARLSON HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
09:11:23 IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
09:11:25 >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO NOMINATE MS. HURTAK, IF I MAY.
09:11:31 >>THE CLERK: MS. HURTAK HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
09:11:32 IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
09:11:34 WE'LL CLOSE THE NOMINATION ON BILL CARLSON AND LYNN HURTAK.
09:11:43 ALL IN FAVOR OF BILL CARLSON, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
09:11:47 OKAY.
09:11:53 THERE'S THREE.
09:11:54 ALL IN FAVOR OF LYNN HURTAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
09:12:01 OKAY.
09:12:05 MS. HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?
09:12:09 >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:12:10 I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING THIS ROLE.
09:12:16 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
09:12:17 NOMINATIONS ARE NOW IN ORDER FOR CRA VICE-CHAIR.
09:12:24 IS THERE A NOMINATION?
09:12:25 YES, MR. CARLSON.
09:12:27 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE ORLANDO GUDES.
09:12:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DECLINE.
09:12:32 >>THE CLERK: IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
09:12:34 VICE-CHAIR OF CRA.
09:12:41 >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL NOMINATE BILL CARLSON -- I'M SORRY,
09:12:47 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:12:51 >>THE CLERK: MR. CARLSON HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
09:12:54 IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
09:12:55 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M GOING TO DECLINE THAT, TOO, PLEASE.
09:12:59 >>THE CLERK: IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
09:13:01 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I NOMINATE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:13:07 >>THE CLERK: MR. MANISCALCO HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
09:13:10 IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
09:13:12 WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
09:13:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M THE BACKUP QUARTERBACK.
09:13:19 AGAIN, I'M VERY GRATEFUL.
09:13:23 I'VE SERVED IN ALL THE POSITIONS FROM CHAIRMAN TO CRA AND
09:13:28 THIS BOARD.
09:13:29 AGAIN, IT'S AN HONOR.
09:13:31 I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE, AND I WISH BOTH CHAIRPERSONS OF BOTH
09:13:37 BOARDS ALL THE BEST, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A GOOD,
09:13:40 PRODUCTIVE YEAR AHEAD.
09:13:41 THANK YOU.
09:13:42 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU VERY KINDLY.
09:13:45 APPRECIATE IT.
09:13:45 I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE NEW CHAIR.
09:13:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES.
09:13:53 AND THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
09:13:55 WHO HAS THE INVOCATION TODAY?
09:14:05 >>LYNN HURTAK: HI.
09:14:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. HURTAK.
09:14:09 >>LYNN HURTAK: BYE.
09:14:11 I'M GOING TO GO ENJOY ROME WITH MY MOTHER.
09:14:14 I'LL SEE YOU ALL NEXT WEEK.
09:14:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S A MOMENT OF
09:14:22 SILENCE FOR TODAY IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
09:14:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF EVERYBODY WOULD PLEASE RISE.
09:14:27 LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR ALL THOSE WHO ARE
09:14:30 SUFFERING IN UKRAINE.
09:14:32 [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
09:14:53 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:14:54 THANK YOU.
09:14:59 PLEASE BE SEATED.
09:15:00 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:15:04 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:15:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:15:06 >> HURTAK?
09:15:07 VIERA?
09:15:08 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:15:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:15:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:15:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:15:12 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:15:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:15:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:15:18 GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA CITY
09:15:20 COUNCIL.
09:15:20 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:15:22 TODAY IS THURSDAY, MAY 5, 2022.
09:15:24 WE'RE HERE AT OLD CITY HALL FOR THE REGULAR AGENDA MEETING.
09:15:28 THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO
09:15:30 WATCH, LISTEN, AND VIEW THIS MEETING ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640
09:15:33 AND FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 AND ON THE INTERNET AT
09:15:37 TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:15:39 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND IN PERSON HERE IN CITY
09:15:42 COUNCIL'S CHAMBERS AT OLD CITY HALL OR VIRTUALLY PARTICIPATE
09:15:45 IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING USING WHAT IS REFERRED TO BY THE
09:15:49 STATE OF FLORIDA STATUTES AND RULES AS COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA
09:15:52 TECHNOLOGY.
09:15:53 SPEAK REMOTELY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE USE OF CMT,
09:15:57 PREREGISTRATION IS REQUIRED.
09:15:58 AND THAT FORM IS AVAILABLE AT TAMPA.GOV/PUBLICCOMMENT.
09:16:03 THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THAT ARE ALSO ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB
09:16:06 PAGE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL, AND ALSO IN THE NOTICE OF THE
09:16:15 MEETING.
09:16:15 TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY USING CMT FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS,
09:16:21 PREREGISTRATION IS ALSO REQUIRED, AND THAT IS ALSO AVAILABLE
09:16:26 ON THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THAT FOR PREREGISTRATION ARE ON THE
09:16:30 CITY COUNCIL'S WEBSITE AND IN THE INSTRUCTIONS AND IN THE
09:16:34 NOTICE.
09:16:34 JUST A REMINDER FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN
09:16:38 QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS, YOU WILL NEED A DEVICE THAT ALLOWS,
09:16:46 TABLET OR COMPUTER EQUIPPED WITH CAMERA OR MICROPHONE TO
09:16:49 ENABLE YOU TO BE SEEN BY VIDEO AND HEARD BY AUDIO.
09:16:52 CELL PHONES AND SMART PHONES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE.
09:16:54 THAT BEING SAID TO ALLOW FOR PARTICIPATION VIRTUALLY FOR ALL
09:16:59 THE HEARINGS TODAY AND THE PARTICIPATION IN PUBLIC COMMENT,
09:17:02 I WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL WAIVE THE RULES TO ADOPT THIS AS IN
09:17:06 THE NOTICE.
09:17:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
09:17:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY
09:17:11 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:17:12 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:17:13 >> AYE.
09:17:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
09:17:15 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:17:16 LET THE RECORD REFLECT THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:17:19 MR. SHELBY.
09:17:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND
09:17:25 ADDENDUM TO THE AGENDA.
09:17:26 YOU HAVE THE ADDENDUM IN FRONT OF YOU, AND THERE REALLY ARE
09:17:32 NO CHANGES.
09:17:35 TO NUMBER 36, JUST AN E-MAIL.
09:17:37 BUT NUMBER 57 IS ASKED TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA, IF
09:17:42 COUNCIL WISHES TO TAKE IT UP NOW OR TAKE IT UP -- ACTUALLY,
09:17:47 IT'S NOT ON THE ACTUAL AGENDA.
09:17:48 IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW, YOU CAN MOVE TO REMOVE NUMBER
09:17:51 57.
09:17:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE -- THAT IS
09:17:54 FILE NUMBER PW 22-72221.
09:18:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
09:18:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:18:02 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:18:05 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:18:06 DO WE NEED ROLL CALL?
09:18:07 ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
09:18:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:18:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:18:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:18:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:18:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:18:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:18:19 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK
09:18:21 BEING ABSENT.
09:18:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FINALLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, A REQUEST FROM THE
09:18:25 ADMINISTRATION TODAY TO MOVE UP ITEM NUMBER 56.
09:18:29 THERE'S ONLY ONE ITEM ON THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE, AND MR.
09:18:32 BENNETT IS HERE, AND HE WOULD LIKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE
09:18:35 ABLE TO DO THAT NOW, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, WITH COUNCIL'S
09:18:38 PLEASURE.
09:18:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, COUNCIL.
09:18:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITHOUT OBJECTION.
09:18:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF BENNETT.
09:18:51 >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:18:52 GOOD MORNING, PUBLIC.
09:18:53 JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
09:18:55 I'M JOINED HERE TODAY BY LIEUTENANT COLONEL CONRAD SHUPE AND
09:19:00 HIS LOVELY WIFE.
09:19:01 THANK YOU FOR BOTH BEING HERE TODAY.
09:19:02 THE LIEUTENANT COLONEL WHO WORKS AT CENTCOM IS PART OF THE
09:19:06 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE INTERN PROGRAM AS PART OF THEIR EXIT
09:19:10 STRATEGY OF THE MILITARY.
09:19:11 HE IS OUR FIRST INTERN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AS THE INAUGURAL
09:19:14 INTERN, I SHOULD SAY.
09:19:15 HE WORKED DIRECTLY UNDER MY OFFICE FROM THE MIDDLE OF
09:19:18 JANUARY TO THE MIDDLE OF APRIL AND DID AMAZING THINGS.
09:19:20 HE TOOK ON A PROJECT THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO
09:19:25 DO, WHICH WAS TO EXAMINE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE REQUISITE
09:19:31 STAFF IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO OPERATE IN A TELEWORKING
09:19:34 CAPACITY.
09:19:34 YOU KNOW WE DID THAT UNDER COVID CONDITIONS AS AN EMERGENCY
09:19:37 UNDER OUR CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT AND CONTINUITY OF
09:19:41 OPERATIONS, AND WE HAD ASKED LIEUTENANT COLONEL TO USE HIS
09:19:44 SKILLS FROM HIS MILITARY SERVICE TO LOOK AT OUR CIVILIAN
09:19:48 MODEL AND SEE IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A PROGRAM THAT WOULD
09:19:51 ALLOW SOME OF OUR PERSONNEL AND RESOURCES TO TELEWORK FOR
09:19:56 EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS AND EQUITY IN SERVICE WITHIN
09:19:59 THE CITY AND TO THE COMMUNITY.
09:20:01 AND AS HE APPROACHES HIS EXIT TIME AND RETIRES FROM THE
09:20:06 MILITARY, HE WAS LOOKING FOR A POSITION WITHIN CIVILIAN
09:20:09 GOVERNMENT.
09:20:10 SO WE'RE HOPING WE CAN ADOPT HIM AS PART OF THE BUDGET
09:20:13 PROCESS, AND I'M WORKING ON THAT AND WE WILL, OF COURSE,
09:20:16 PRESENT THAT TO YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
09:20:17 BUT I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE COUNCIL A CHANCE TO RECOGNIZE THE
09:20:20 LIEUTENANT COLONEL AND MacDILL AND CENTCOM SPECIFICALLY
09:20:23 FOR ALLOWING HIM TO JOIN OUR CITY GOVERNMENT FOR 90 DAYS AND
09:20:28 HIS IMMERSION AROUND THE CITY, AND I THINK HE SPENT SOME
09:20:30 TIME WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO WE'RE REALLY APPRECIATIVE
09:20:35 OF WHAT HE'S DONE.
09:20:36 BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO HIM, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU,
09:20:38 CHAIRMAN CITRO.
09:20:41 YOU PRO TEM COUNCILMAN GUIDO MANISCALCO AND, OF COURSE,
09:20:46 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR THEIR SELECTIONS TODAY.
09:20:50 >> COUNCIL, JUST IN GENERAL, I DO WANT TO FIRST THANK THE
09:20:53 CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE MAYOR FOR ALLOWING ME THE
09:20:55 OPPORTUNITY.
09:20:56 IT WAS A GREAT HONOR TO BE ABLE TO BE INSERTED INTO THE
09:20:59 CITY.
09:20:59 WHAT I DISCOVERED WAS THE CITY EMPLOYEES HAVE A HUGE IMPACT
09:21:03 ON THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS YOU.
09:21:05 OF COURSE, THE MAYOR AND THE CHIEF.
09:21:07 SO FOR ME TO BE INTEGRATED INTO THE FOLD WAS JUST AN HONOR
09:21:11 AND A PLEASURE.
09:21:11 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:21:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:21:15 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:21:19 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:21:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, CHIEF BENNETT.
09:21:23 WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE, OBVIOUSLY, AND WHATNOT.
09:21:27 AND, YOU KNOW, IN OUR COUNTY, WE HAVE ABOUT 100,000
09:21:31 VETERANS, NOT INCLUDING THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES AND
09:21:35 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS, ET CETERA.
09:21:38 WE'RE ALWAYS A VERY PATRIOTIC CITY.
09:21:41 I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO INTEGRATE THAT WITHIN
09:21:43 OUR CITY GOVERNMENT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
09:21:46 OUT OF CURIOSITY TO THE CHIEF, IF I MAY, LET ME ASK YOU, DO
09:21:49 WE HAVE ANY -- I'M SURE WE DO BECAUSE WE KNOW OF SOME, HOW
09:21:53 MANY ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY FOLKS DO WE HAVE SERVING
09:21:55 CONCURRENTLY IN THE CITY EITHER ATU, FIRST RESPONDERS,
09:21:59 WHATEVER IT MAY BE, IF YOU KNOW THAT?
09:22:01 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:22:04 GREAT QUESTION.
09:22:04 I LOOK AT A REPORT FROM OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT ON A
09:22:08 REGULAR BASIS TO NOT ONLY HONOR BUT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE
09:22:11 GETTING THE BENEFITS AS THEY ARE SERVING THE COUNTRY AND
09:22:13 MAKE SURE THEY COME BACK TO A WELL-POSITIONED JOB BACK AT
09:22:16 THE CITY.
09:22:16 AND WE HAVE TYPICALLY AROUND TWO DOZEN.
09:22:18 RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 26 IN SOME FORM.
09:22:21 ABOUT 70% OF THOSE ARE IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY GROUPS AND ABOUT
09:22:24 30% ARE OUR GENERAL EMPLOYEE GROUPS THAT ARE SERVING THE
09:22:28 COUNTRY AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
09:22:29 >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT.
09:22:30 THANK YOU, SIR, VERY MUCH.
09:22:31 JUST LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU, SIR, AND WHATNOT AND
09:22:35 WELCOME AND JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
09:22:38 TODAY IS -- I THINK MAY 5th IS A NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER.
09:22:41 I ALWAYS SAY THAT OUR MILITARY ARE OFTEN THE ANSWERED
09:22:44 PRAYERS FOR MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY AND THROUGHOUT THE
09:22:46 WORLD.
09:22:46 THANK YOU.
09:22:47 I WOULD BE REMISS, BY THE WAY, HE WILL PUNCH ME FOR THIS
09:22:50 LATER, BUT WE HAVE IN THE AUDIENCE COLONEL DJ REYES -- THERE
09:22:54 HE GOES SMIRKING AT ME -- ONE OF OUR MOST DISTINGUISHED
09:22:57 LOCAL VETERANS HERE.
09:22:58 BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:22:59 I KNOW YOU'RE DEALING A LOT WITH MacDILL.
09:23:03 I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS DONE A LOT TO BRING ATTENTION
09:23:06 TO THE IMPORTANCE THAT HAS FOR OUR CITY.
09:23:08 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:23:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:23:10 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, SAME THING.
09:23:12 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND ALL THE SERVICE PEOPLE
09:23:14 SERVING NOW, FULL-TIME, RESERVISTS AND THE RETIREES AND
09:23:18 THEIR FAMILIES.
09:23:19 YEARS AGO, I WAS HONOR COMMANDER, SO I GOT TO LEARN A LOT
09:23:25 ABOUT MacDILL.
09:23:26 MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE'S HUSBAND WAS SQUADRON COMMANDER AT
09:23:29 MacDILL, SO I LEARNED A LOT THAT WAY.
09:23:32 THROUGH THE TAMPA CHAMBER, WE'VE DONE A LOT TO SUPPORT
09:23:35 PEOPLE TRANSITIONING.
09:23:36 THROUGH THAT, I'VE HAD A LOT OF COFFEES WITH PEOPLE LOOKING
09:23:40 AT TRANSITIONING.
09:23:41 IF YOU EVER NEED TO HAVE COFFEE, TALK ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES IN
09:23:44 THE FUTURE OR HELP WITH ANYBODY YOU KNOW THAT'S LOOKING TO
09:23:46 TRANSITION, MY OTHER JOB, I HAVE A PR FIRM AND THERE ARE
09:23:51 LOTS OF GREAT PUBLIC AFFAIRS PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN CYCLING
09:23:53 THROUGH, BESIDES FANTASTIC MANAGERS AND FINANCIAL PEOPLE AND
09:23:56 OTHERS.
09:23:57 AND THEY ARE JUST A GREAT ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY.
09:23:59 IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEADERSHIP ACROSS OUR BUSINESS AND
09:24:02 VOLUNTEER COMMUNITY, IS THERE ARE MacDILL PEOPLE
09:24:07 EVERYWHERE.
09:24:08 THANK YOU.
09:24:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:24:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:24:11 LIEUTENANT COLONEL, IT'S A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
09:24:14 IF I REMEMBER THE NUMBERS I BELIEVE MacDILL IS NUMBER
09:24:17 ONE OR NUMBER TWO IN THE COUNTRY WHERE PEOPLE WHO COME TO
09:24:20 MacDILL STAY IN TAMPA AFTER THEY RETIRE.
09:24:22 AM I SOMEWHERE NEAR?
09:24:25 >> YOU'RE RIGHT.
09:24:25 JUST SO HAPPENS I'M FROM TAMPA.
09:24:27 MAKE MY WAY TO MacDILL, THIS IS MY FINAL STOP, YES.
09:24:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:24:31 THAT SHOWS YOU THAT THERE IS A BRIDGE BETWEEN MacDILL
09:24:34 AND THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY BECAUSE WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT
09:24:38 YOU GET.
09:24:39 EVIDENTLY IT MUST BE PRETTY GOOD BECAUSE A LOT OF RETIREES
09:24:43 ARE STAYING HERE.
09:24:44 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:24:44 CONGRATULATIONS ONCE AGAIN.
09:24:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
09:24:46 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING A PART OF THE TAMPA FAMILY AND
09:24:50 FOR KEEPING, AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, THAT BRIDGE OPEN
09:24:53 BETWEEN MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:24:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:24:56 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:24:59 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, COUNCIL AND MR. SHELBY, FOR
09:25:01 ACCEPTING THAT AGENDA ITEM MOVED UP.
09:25:05 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, CHIEF BENNETT, ARE WE DOING YOUR
09:25:10 ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE?
09:25:11 >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT WAS THE ONLY ITEM.
09:25:13 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK YOU TWO QUESTIONS.
09:25:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:25:17 >>BILL CARLSON: NUMBER ONE IS, I ACCIDENTALLY MISSED A
09:25:22 MEETING A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO THAT WAS ABOUT WATER BONDS.
09:25:26 MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE COMMUNITY IS THERE'S A DISCUSSION
09:25:29 ABOUT BUILDING, THE WATER DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THE WATER
09:25:30 DEPARTMENT HAS SO MUCH EXCESS CASH THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING
09:25:33 TO BUILD A $42 MILLION OFFICE BUILDING FOR 35 PEOPLE THAT
09:25:36 WILL INCLUDE A WELCOME AND EDUCATION CENTER.
09:25:39 WE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HANNA AVENUE, BUT WITH ALL THE
09:25:43 OTHER NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE CRUNCH ON PEOPLE
09:25:48 ECONOMICALLY IN THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE WOULD
09:25:51 LOWER WATER RATES AND GIVE THE COMMUNITY A BREAK RATHER THAN
09:25:55 SPENDING MONEY ON A 42 OR EVEN IF IT IS A $30 MILLION
09:25:59 BUILDING FOR 35 PEOPLE.
09:26:00 >>JOHN BENNETT: I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT BACK TO THE
09:26:03 DEPARTMENT.
09:26:04 >>BILL CARLSON: THE HANNA AVENUE PROJECT, ALL IN, PROBABLY
09:26:07 200, 220 MILLION FOR 500 PEOPLE.
09:26:09 THE PER SQUARE FOOT ON THAT IS MANY TIMES WHAT THE STANDARD
09:26:12 IN THE INDUSTRY IS.
09:26:15 I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT THIS MORNING.
09:26:17 IT WOULD BE GROSSLY EXPENSIVE AND UNNECESSARY.
09:26:20 IF THE WATER DEPARTMENT HAS SO MUCH MONEY THEY CAN SPEND ON
09:26:22 THAT, I WOULD SUGGEST WE ROLL BACK RATES.
09:26:25 NUMBER TWO IS THAT I THINK ALL OF US -- I DON'T KNOW IF
09:26:30 ANYBODY ELSE WAS BRIEFED IN ADVANCE BUT ALL OF US FOUND OUT
09:26:33 ON FRIDAY THROUGH A PRESS CONFERENCE THE MAYOR HAD THAT THE
09:26:36 CITY OF TAMPA HAS BEEN UNDER THE SECOND JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
09:26:40 INVESTIGATION FOR CIVIL RIGHTS IN SEVEN YEARS.
09:26:43 AND THAT THAT STARTED IN DECEMBER, AND THERE WAS A CLAIM
09:26:47 MADE ON FRIDAY THAT WAS THE RESULT OF A HUD LETTER.
09:26:51 HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT THE CIVIL RIGHTS GROUPS HERE REACHED OUT
09:26:53 TO THEIR NATIONAL PEOPLE LAST YEAR, AND THEY DEMANDED THAT
09:26:57 THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DO AN INVESTIGATION.
09:27:00 MY QUESTION IS, TWO QUESTIONS, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT IT IS?
09:27:03 NUMBER TWO, WHY WASN'T CITY COUNCIL NOTIFIED?
09:27:06 DON'T YOU THINK WE SHOULD KNOW IF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS
09:27:10 INVESTIGATING THE CITY FOR CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS FOR THE
09:27:12 SECOND TIME IN SEVEN YEARS?
09:27:14 >>JOHN BENNETT: I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE STATUS OF THE
09:27:16 INVESTIGATION.
09:27:17 I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT AS SOON AS WE WERE MADE
09:27:19 AWARE, WE MADE EVERYBODY ELSE AWARE THROUGH THE MAYOR'S
09:27:23 OFFICE.
09:27:23 >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T THINK CITY COUNCIL WAS MADE AWARE AT
09:27:25 ALL.
09:27:25 WE FOUND OUT THROUGH THE MEDIA.
09:27:27 THERE WAS A PRESS RELEASE SENT ON A FRIDAY THAT SAID SAVE
09:27:30 NEIGHBORHOODS AND VICTIMS SHOULD BE PROTECTED.
09:27:32 AND THE PRESS CONFERENCE ENDED UP BEING A 4:00 FRIDAY DUMP
09:27:36 OF NEGATIVE INFORMATION WHICH IS THAT WE WERE UNDER CIVIL
09:27:39 RIGHTS INVESTIGATION.
09:27:40 I FIND THAT REALLY OFFENSIVE AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
09:27:42 I HAD CALLS OVER THE WEEKEND ASKING HOW COME WE'RE UNDER
09:27:45 CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATION AND YOU DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY.
09:27:50 I SAID I DIDN'T KNOW.
09:27:52 ARE THERE ANY OTHER FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS GOING ON THAT WE
09:27:54 DON'T KNOW ABOUT?
09:27:55 >>JOHN BENNETT: I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT.
09:27:57 I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY.
09:27:58 >>BILL CARLSON: I MAKE A MOTION AT THE END TO HAVE STAFF
09:28:01 COME BACK AND GIVE US A REPORT ON IT.
09:28:03 BUT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, WHY WAS
09:28:07 IMPORTANT INFORMATION NOT GIVEN IN DECEMBER WHEN IT
09:28:10 HAPPENED?
09:28:10 SECOND, WHY WAS IT DUMPED ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON?
09:28:14 ALLEGATIONS IN A COUPLE OF MEDIA OUTLETS, THERE WAS
09:28:17 MISLEADING INFORMATION.
09:28:18 I DON'T KNOW THE FACTS.
09:28:19 I CAN'T RESPOND.
09:28:20 ONLY READ THE LETTERS THAT WERE IN THE ARTICLES.
09:28:23 WAS ANYBODY ELSE ON CITY COUNCIL BRIEFED ON FRIDAY IN
09:28:26 ADVANCE OF THAT?
09:28:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I GOT A CALL FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
09:28:29 >>BILL CARLSON: BESIDES FRIDAY, WAS ANYBODY BRIEFED IN
09:28:33 DECEMBER?
09:28:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAVE YOU HAD YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED OR ARE
09:28:40 YOU SATISFIED?
09:28:41 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
09:28:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:28:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF, THE SUMMER IS APPROACHING.
09:28:46 OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE EAGER TO WORK.
09:28:49 A LOT OF PEOPLE CALL ME ASKING IS THE CITY -- VERSUS SOME OF
09:28:53 THE YOUNG PEOPLE PICKING UP TRASH, ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES
09:28:56 WHERE CAN BE MENTOR IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY DURING THE
09:29:00 SUMMER WORK TIME VERSUS PICKING UP TRASH.
09:29:04 I SAID I WOULD ADDRESS THAT.
09:29:07 IT WAS BROUGHT UP SOME TIME AGO BUT NEVER GOT ANSWERS.
09:29:10 THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING WE HAVE SUMMER JOBS.
09:29:12 THERE'S MONEY.
09:29:12 CAN WE FIND A WAY TO HAVE THE KIDS HAVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES
09:29:16 VERSUS PICKING UP TRASH?
09:29:18 >>JOHN BENNETT: IT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
09:29:20 AS YOU KNOW WITH YOUR TIME AND INVESTMENT IN OUR PARKS
09:29:22 PROGRAM, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF REC LEADER POSITIONS AND
09:29:25 AQUATIC LEADER POSITIONS THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FILL.
09:29:28 FORTUNATELY, WE WERE ABLE TO RAISE THE RATES FOR THOSE
09:29:31 OPPORTUNITIES DURING THE SUMMER.
09:29:33 WE PUT FLYERS OUT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THE SCHOOL RESOURCE
09:29:36 OFFICERS ARE RECRUITING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, SO THERE'S
09:29:39 STILL PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES IN THE PARK PROGRAM TO HAVE
09:29:42 WORKFORCE OPPORTUNITY AS WELL AS A MENTORING OPPORTUNITY
09:29:44 WITH CITY GOVERNMENT.
09:29:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BUT I THINK THEY ARE LOOKING -- I KNOW WE
09:29:49 HAVE ALWAYS -- THE PARK IS A GREAT PLACE TO START.
09:29:51 IT STARTS IN THE PARKS.
09:29:53 I THINK THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A TRANSITION OF OTHER AREAS
09:29:55 THAT THEY MIGHT WORK IN VERSUS JUST PARKS AND REC OR PICKING
09:29:58 UP TRASH.
09:30:00 IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO MAYBE FIND A FEW TO START SOMETHING,
09:30:03 IT WOULD BE A GREAT START.
09:30:04 >>JOHN BENNETT: OKAY.
09:30:05 I'LL TALK TO OUR WORKFORCE DIRECTOR AND SEE IF WE CAN BRING
09:30:07 IN OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
09:30:08 THANKS FOR MENTIONING IT.
09:30:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
09:30:12 I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THE STAFF REPORTS.
09:30:18 QUESTION IF WE STILL WANT STAFF TO BE HERE OR WHETHER WE'RE
09:30:22 GOOD -- ITEM 57.
09:30:24 WE'RE GOOD.
09:30:30 THAT'S CORRECT.
09:30:30 ITEM 58?
09:30:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
09:30:41 HAVE STAFF APPEAR OR NOT ON ITEM 58?
09:30:43 YOU HAVE A MEMORANDUM FROM BRAD BAIRD.
09:30:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM 59.
09:30:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO NO STAFF ON NUMBER 58, SIR?
09:30:56 NO STAFF NECESSARY.
09:31:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF TO BE HERE TO ANSWER
09:31:03 THE QUESTIONS?
09:31:03 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:31:06 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
09:31:07 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, CHIEF BENNETT IS HERE AND MAYBE
09:31:10 OTHER STAFF ARE LISTENING.
09:31:11 I SAID A LOT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS ABOUT BRANDING
09:31:14 THINGS.
09:31:15 I THINK SOMETIMES OUR BRANDING IS OFF AND DISINGENUOUS.
09:31:20 HAVING A PRESS CONFERENCE AND SAYING THAT WE NOW HAVE THIS
09:31:22 NEW INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN FOR NEIGHBORHOODS AND CALLING IT
09:31:24 TAMPA'S NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN-BUILD AND THE PUBLIC CALLS AND
09:31:27 SAYS WHAT'S NEW ABOUT IT AND IT'S JUST A REPACKAGING OF PURE
09:31:32 AND PIPES AND STORMWATER AND MOBILITY, IT'S NOT REALLY
09:31:37 ANYTHING NEW.
09:31:37 IT'S JUST DEFINING IT BY NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:31:41 AND WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS REALLY NEED IS PLANNING.
09:31:43 WE NEED TO UPDATE PLANNING.
09:31:44 I KNOW THAT THE ADMINISTRATION BROUGHT IN STEPHEN BENSON,
09:31:47 WHO IS AWESOME, BUT WE NEED TO RAMP UP THAT PLANNING QUICKLY
09:31:50 BECAUSE REPLACING THE PIPES WE ALREADY AGREED ON SEVERAL
09:31:53 YEARS AGO ISN'T A NEW IDEA TO HELP NEIGHBORHOODS.
09:31:56 THANK YOU.
09:31:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:32:01 ITEM 59.
09:32:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK, AND
09:32:12 IT'S AWAITING A SIGNATURE.
09:32:13 YOU CAN TAKE IT UP AS YOU COME ALONG.
09:32:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE'LL TAKE THAT UP WHEN WE COME ALONG.
09:32:17 ITEM NUMBER 60.
09:32:21 >> [INAUDIBLE]
09:32:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:32:23 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS WAS -- I THINK MAYBE I MADE THE FIRST
09:32:28 MOTION.
09:32:29 SAYS GUIDO MADE THE FIRST MOTION.
09:32:30 BUT THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THERE IS -- IN THE ALLOCATION OF
09:32:36 THE 500 MILLION OR SO THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PAID IN TAXES FOR
09:32:38 THE LAST ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION, SOME PEOPLE ARE ESTIMATING
09:32:41 THAT THE CITY MIGHT GET SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 80 AND 120
09:32:44 MILLION.
09:32:45 AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS, AS I SAW IT, ANYWAY, IS FOR US AND,
09:32:49 MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE PUBLIC TO GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION
09:32:52 INPUT AS TO HOW THAT MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT IF IT COMES TO
09:32:56 US.
09:32:57 I TALKED TO VIK, AND HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE ABOUT -- HAVE
09:33:02 MORE CERTAINTY ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY IS COMING AND WHEN.
09:33:04 THE IDEA HERE IS NOT TO HAVE A STAFF REPORT; IT IS ONLY TO
09:33:08 HAVE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION SO THE PUBLIC CAN GIVE US INPUT AS
09:33:11 TO WHAT THEY WANT US TO SPEND MONEY ON.
09:33:13 POTHOLES AND SIDEWALKS ARE TWO MAJOR PRIORITIES.
09:33:16 IF WE HAD 80 OR 120 MILLION, HOW WOULD WE SPEND THE MONEY?
09:33:19 THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION AND TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
09:33:22 THANK YOU.
09:33:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. BHIDE ASKED FOR A 60 DAY CONTINUANCE.
09:33:25 CAN WE TAKE CARE OF THAT NOW?
09:33:28 >>BILL CARLSON: I MAKE THE MOTION --
09:33:29 >> SECOND.
09:33:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
09:33:34 >> JULY 14.
09:33:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED
09:33:37 BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:33:39 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:33:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, MARTIN SHELBY.
09:33:43 WITH REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 60, I WANT IT TO BE CLEAR THAT'S
09:33:47 COMING BACK UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:33:49 ANYBODY WHO DID WANT TO SPEAK TO IT WOULD NOT HAVE THE
09:33:52 OPPORTUNITY UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:33:53 THEY'D HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THAT MORNING UNDER
09:33:57 PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:33:58 UNLESS COUNCIL WANTS TO DO IT SOMEWHAT DIFFERENTLY OR SET IT
09:34:03 FOR A WORKSHOP.
09:34:04 HOWEVER COUNCIL WISHES TO DO IT, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE,
09:34:08 UNLESS COUNCIL MAKES A MOTION AND ACCEPTS OPENING UP THE
09:34:12 FLOOR FOR A STAFF REPORT, WHICH IS RATHER UNUSUAL.
09:34:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:34:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT IN DISAGREEMENT WITH WHAT WAS
09:34:28 SAID.
09:34:28 YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME TO SPEAK EARLY AND CAN'T STAY IN
09:34:31 THE AFTERNOON AND THEY LEAVE.
09:34:32 YOU'RE GETTING MORE BUT GETTING LESS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
09:34:35 IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHICH WAY THEY WANT TO GO.
09:34:41 >> [INAUDIBLE]
09:34:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, IF THE PURPOSE IS FOR PRESENTATION
09:34:47 AND THEN -- JUST PUBLIC INPUT.
09:34:54 >>BILL CARLSON: WE PUT IT IN THE MORNING.
09:34:56 OKAY.
09:34:56 DO WE NEED TO MAKE THE MOTION AGAIN?
09:35:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WOULD APPEAR ON THE
09:35:02 AGENDA.
09:35:03 THEY COULD SPEAK TO WHATEVER THE ITEM IS THAT DAY UNDER
09:35:06 PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:35:07 BUT TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
09:35:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE COUNCIL CAN DIRECT THE CLERK'S OFFICE
09:35:11 WHAT TIME THEY WANT IT, AT ANY TIME THEY WISH TO DO THAT,
09:35:15 SIR.
09:35:15 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE SAY 9:00 OR 10:00?
09:35:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 9:00, START OF THE MEETING.
09:35:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU'RE AMENDING YOUR MOTION.
09:35:25 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, PLEASE.
09:35:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND TO THE AMENDMENT.
09:35:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON MADE A MOTION.
09:35:30 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS SECONDED.
09:35:32 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:35:33 ANY OPPOSED?
09:35:34 >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
09:35:38 >>BILL CARLSON: MAKE IT THE FIRST THING AFTER.
09:35:40 I HAVE A COMMENT ON THE NEXT ONE, IF YOU WANT.
09:35:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM 61.
09:35:48 >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THIS FROM THE
09:35:51 AGENDA.
09:35:51 THE POLICE CHIEF SENT A REPORT.
09:35:53 THE POINT OF THIS IS THAT IF A POLICE OFFICER IN THE LINE OF
09:35:59 DUTY GETS A TICKET FROM THE CITY, THE CITY CAN EASILY CANCEL
09:36:03 IT.
09:36:04 BUT THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE PRIVATE PARKING VENDORS WILL
09:36:07 GIVE A TICKET TO A POLICE OFFICER, AND THEY HAVE TO PAY IT
09:36:11 THEMSELVES.
09:36:12 UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T GIVE CHIEF O'CONNOR MORE FEEDBACK
09:36:18 WITHOUT TELLING HER ALL THE SOURCES THAT I TALKED TO.
09:36:22 I WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO MAKE SURE WE
09:36:25 REMOVE THE BURDEN OF THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE TRYING TO
09:36:27 SERVE US ALL.
09:36:28 AND I MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THIS FROM THE AGENDA.
09:36:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:36:33 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:36:34 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:36:35 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
09:36:38 62.
09:36:42 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.
09:36:43 I JUST WALKED IN FROM USING THE RESTROOM.
09:36:45 ARE WE GOING OVER WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED STAFF THERE?
09:36:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:36:49 >>LUIS VIERA: MEMO IS FINE.
09:36:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM NUMBER 63.
09:36:52 HAVE STAFF HERE FOR 63.
09:36:56 64.
09:37:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M HERE, COUNCIL.
09:37:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM 65.
09:37:05 >> SAME THING.
09:37:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
09:37:10 ANY OTHER CHANGES TO OUR AGENDA?
09:37:12 SEEING NONE, WE WILL OPEN OUR FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:37:15 I'M SORRY.
09:37:18 MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:37:20 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:37:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:37:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE]
09:37:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. MACKLE.
09:37:35 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD MORNING.
09:37:36 CONGRATULATIONS, MR. CHAIR.
09:37:37 CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
09:37:41 I'M HERE -- I REPRESENT THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
09:37:46 THE BOARD IS HERE -- THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD IS HERE TO
09:37:49 PRESENT THE 2021 ANNUAL REPORT.
09:37:53 IF I CAN ASK FOR THE CHAIR AND THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS TO
09:37:57 COME FORWARD, I'LL INTRODUCE THEM.
09:37:58 ALSO IN THE AUDIENCE, WE HAVE OUR TPD COORDINATOR WHO IS
09:38:01 CAPTAIN PATRICK MESSMER.
09:38:05 HE'S HERE ALSO.
09:38:06 MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS IS THE CHAIR OF THE
09:38:09 CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
09:38:10 MR. AQUIL, OUR CURRENT VICE-CHAIR IS COLONEL REYES AND
09:38:17 CARLOS VALDES IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
09:38:21 THEY ARE READY TO PRESENT THE 2021 ANNUAL REPORT.
09:38:24 THAT REPORT IS REQUIRED ACCORDING TO CODE SECTION 18-8
09:38:29 SUBSECTION I-2.
09:38:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. AQUIL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
09:38:36 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND CITY COUNCIL.
09:38:38 RASHEED AQUIL, ACTING CHAIR OF THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD.
09:38:42 I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE CRB TO PRESENT THE 2021
09:38:45 ANNUAL REPORT SUPPORTED BY THE NEW ADOPTED ORDINANCE 18-8,
09:38:49 WHICH I BELIEVE YOU ALL RECEIVE A COPY OF THAT ANNUAL
09:38:53 REPORT.
09:38:53 IF YOU WILL, WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE PowerPoint
09:39:04 PRESENTATION ACKNOWLEDGING SOME OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THE
09:39:07 CRB DURING THE YEAR 2021.
09:39:10 UNDER HERE, SECTION 1, THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD OF THE
09:39:17 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS CREATED BY THE TAMPA CITY
09:39:19 ORDINANCE SECTION 18-8.
09:39:24 THE PURPOSE OF THE CRB BOARD IS A GROUP SELECTED, UNBIASED
09:39:35 MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THE PURPOSE OF FOSTERING
09:39:38 TRANSPARENCY, SUPPORTING THE POLICY, POLICING AND POLICE
09:39:42 REFORM, TO ENHANCE COMMUNICATION WHILE EDUCATING THE PUBLIC
09:39:45 REGARDING THE OPERATIONS OF THE TPD.
09:39:48 PROTECTING CIVIL RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES.
09:39:50 MANAGING RISK AND ESTABLISHING GREATER CONFIDENCE IN THE
09:39:53 DEPARTMENT AND ENSURING A RELATIONSHIP OF TRUST AND RESPECT
09:39:57 BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY BY CREATED AN
09:40:00 UNBIASED PANEL OF CITIZENS TO REVIEW CASES AND ISSUES
09:40:03 RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT ARE OF IMPORTANCE OR OF
09:40:08 INTEREST TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY.
09:40:10 TO INCREASE AND DEMONSTRATE POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY,
09:40:14 CREDIBILITY WITH THE PUBLIC.
09:40:15 OUR CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD CONSISTS OF 11 VOTING MEMBERS, FIVE
09:40:22 APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR, FIVE APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL, AND
09:40:25 ONE APPOINTED BY THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION ADVANCEMENT OF
09:40:29 COLORED PEOPLE, THE NAACP.
09:40:30 HERE I HAVE PRESENT OUR VICE-CHAIR AS WELL AS ONE OF OUR
09:40:34 VOTING MEMBERS, MR. VALDES AND ALSO COLONEL REYES.
09:40:40 HERE IN SECTION 2, THERE WERE NINE MEETINGS CONDUCTED DURING
09:40:45 THE YEAR 2021.
09:40:47 THE BOARD REVIEWED 11 CLOSED INTERNAL AFFAIRS
09:40:51 INVESTIGATIONS, TOTAL OF 40 ALLEGED POLICY VIOLATIONS.
09:40:55 THE MOST FREQUENTLY ADDRESSED VIOLATION WAS THE STANDARD OF
09:40:59 CONDUCT.
09:41:04 JUST CONTINUING, DR. COLLINS REPRESENTED THE CRB DURING THE
09:41:10 HIRING PANEL.
09:41:11 NOW, IN REFERENCE TO THE POLICE HIRING PANEL, THERE IS A
09:41:14 LIST OF ALL MEMBERS OF THE CRB.
09:41:17 WE ARE USING THAT LIST TO DETERMINE WHICH MEMBER WOULD BE
09:41:20 NEXT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HIRING
09:41:23 PROCESS.
09:41:23 ONCE ALL THE MEMBERS HAVE PARTICIPATED, THEN WE WILL OPEN UP
09:41:27 FOR DISCUSSION, WHICH MAY LEAD TO FUTURE RECOMMENDATIONS.
09:41:31 ADDITIONAL TOPICS OF DISCUSSION DURING THE 2021 MEETINGS WAS
09:41:38 THE UPDATE ON THE MAYOR'S TASK FORCE ON POLICING, NEW CRISIS
09:41:42 INTERVENTION RESPONSE TEAM, QUALITY ASSURANCE REPORT AND
09:41:45 ALSO THE CRIME-FREE MULTI-HOUSING PROGRAM.
09:41:48 CONTINUING WITH SECTION 3, DURING THE 2021, THE TAMPA POLICE
09:41:55 DEPARTMENT RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 241 CITIZEN COMPLAINTS.
09:42:01 CITIZENS MAY NOW SEND THEIR COMPLAINTS TO THE CRB VIA
09:42:06 E-MAIL.
09:42:07 WE CURRENTLY RECEIVING OUR MONTHLY TRACKING LOG ON REFERENCE
09:42:12 TO COMPLAINTS AS WELL.
09:42:13 CONTINUING WITH SECTION 4, CRB CAN MAKE ONE OF THE FOLLOWING
09:42:21 RECOMMENDATIONS.
09:42:23 WE CONCUR WITH THE PROPOSED DETERMINATION OF THE DISPOSITION
09:42:27 OF THE COMPLAINT AND DISCIPLINE.
09:42:28 THE CRB DOES NOT CONCUR WITH THE DISPOSITION OF THE
09:42:32 COMPLAINT AND DISCIPLINE AS WELL AS THE CRB IS UNABLE TO
09:42:35 REACH A DECISION IN WHICH CASE THEY SPECIFY THE REASON
09:42:41 THERETO.
09:42:42 OTHER CASES REVIEWED BY THE CRB, THE BOARD CONCURRED WITH
09:42:45 THE DETERMINATION OF DISPOSITION IN 10 OUT OF THE 11 CASES.
09:42:51 THE CRB DID NOT MAKE ANY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE
09:42:55 DEPARTMENT, MAYOR, OR CHIEF OF POLICE DURING THE YEAR OF
09:42:58 2021.
09:42:58 THE CRB REVIEWED THE DEPARTMENT'S BODY WORN CAMERA POLICY
09:43:03 AND HAD NO RECOMMENDATIONS AT THAT MOMENT.
09:43:06 CONTINUING WITH SECTION 6, MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
09:43:11 SHALL ATTEND AT LEAST ONE CRB MEETING.
09:43:13 I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN CITRO ATTENDED IN
09:43:18 JUNE OF 2021 AT THAT MEETING.
09:43:22 NEW PROVISIONS OF THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THE CRB TO CONDUCT
09:43:27 FOUR COMMUNITY-WIDE MEETINGS IN EACH SINGLE-MEMBER COUNCIL
09:43:31 DISTRICT.
09:43:32 I BELIEVE DURING OUR LAST MEETING, WE IDENTIFIED FOUR OF
09:43:46 THOSE LOCATIONS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DISTRICT 5 BEING THAT
09:43:51 WE CONDUCT OUR MEETING IN CITY HALL, WHICH SITS IN DISTRICT
09:43:55 5.
09:43:56 OF THE OTHER FOUR DISTRICTS, I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE LOCATION,
09:44:00 AND TBA IN REFERENCE TO TIME, ACCORDING TO AVAILABILITY.
09:44:05 SECTION 7, CRB REVISED THE AGENDA FORMAT TO MONITOR CASES.
09:44:14 THAT REVISION CAME TO FOLLOW UP FROM OUR PUBLIC COMMENT
09:44:18 SECTION.
09:44:18 THERE WERE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WHO WISHED TO RESPOND AND
09:44:22 INTERACT, PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:44:25 SO WE ADVISE THE AGENDA TO FIT ACCORDINGLY.
09:44:30 STAFF CAN PROVIDE UPDATES TO THE BOARD.
09:44:33 THAT WOULD CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION IN REFERENCE TO THE 2021
09:44:39 ANNUAL REPORT.
09:44:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:44:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
09:44:44 GOOD MORNING, SIR.
09:44:45 GOOD TO SEE YOU.
09:44:47 ONLY QUESTION I HAD AT THIS TIME WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT
09:44:49 SECTION 2, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HIRING PROCESS.
09:44:55 AS MS. COLLINS KIND OF STATED HOW THAT'S BEEN GOING OR WHAT
09:44:59 THE PROCESS IS AT THIS TIME.
09:45:00 YOU STATED YOU'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THE MEMBERS, WHICH
09:45:03 WOULD BE 11 MEMBERS AND MAKE A FINAL CONCLUSION.
09:45:06 RIGHT NOW SHE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S BEEN THROUGH THE
09:45:08 PROCESS?
09:45:10 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
09:45:10 WE DECIDED TO HOLD OUR COMMENTS AND STATEMENTS UNTIL EACH
09:45:16 ONE OF THE MEMBERS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE TO
09:45:19 ENSURE THAT THERE WERE NO LEADING OR OPEN DISCUSSION WHERE
09:45:24 ONE COULD NOT COMMENT.
09:45:26 SHE HAS BEEN THE ONLY ONE TO COMPLETE THAT PROCESS UP TO
09:45:28 THIS POINT, BUT WE DO HAVE A CURRENT LIST OF OTHER MEMBERS
09:45:31 THAT SHOULD BE JOINING THE HIRING PROCESS.
09:45:33 I BELIEVE IT'S ON A QUARTER SYSTEM AS WELL.
09:45:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A QUARTER SYSTEM.
09:45:39 ONE OR TWO PEOPLE DURING THAT QUARTER?
09:45:41 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 11 PEOPLE.
09:45:43 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SYSTEM THAT WILL TAKE A WHILE FOR
09:45:47 EVERYONE TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS, IF YOU'RE SAYING THIS
09:45:49 WILL BE A PART OF YOUR PROCESS TO GET THE FINAL RESULT IF
09:45:52 THE PROCESS, IF THE HIRING PROCESS IS WORKING FOR THE POLICE
09:45:54 DEPARTMENT.
09:45:56 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
09:45:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE CONCERNS IF WE'RE SAYING ONE PERSON
09:46:00 IS GOING A QUARTER AND IT'S A YEARLY REPORT.
09:46:02 THAT MEANS WE WOULD NEVER GET EVERYBODY BEING A PART OF THE
09:46:05 PROCESS.
09:46:08 >> IN REFERENCE TO THE NEW ORDINANCE, IT WAS PRESENTED WHERE
09:46:10 ONE MEMBER PARTICIPATE IN THAT HIRING PROCESS AT A TIME.
09:46:15 SO, AGAIN, WE'RE OPERATING UNDER THAT NEW ORDINANCE AND
09:46:21 ABIDING.
09:46:22 UNFORTUNATELY, YES, I DO SEE A CHALLENGE IN REFERENCE TO THE
09:46:26 QUARTERLY.
09:46:27 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MAYBE CAN LOOK BACK AT AND DISCUSS
09:46:30 WITH MEMBERS AND SEE IF WE CAN ORCHESTRATE SOMETHING A
09:46:33 LITTLE BIT BETTER TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THE RESULTS IN A
09:46:35 NECESSARY TIME FRAME AND BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH OTHER
09:46:38 RECOMMENDATIONS.
09:46:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE REASON I ASK THAT, YOU BROUGHT THAT UP
09:46:41 SAYING YOU WANT EVERYBODY TO DO THAT, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW
09:46:44 YOU COULD DO THAT.
09:46:45 MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOUR BOARD NEEDS TO DISCUSS.
09:46:48 MAYBE ONE OR TWO, AND THAT MAY HELP ALONG.
09:46:51 THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN GET WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH
09:46:53 IN THAT YEAR TIME TO GIVE ME A REPORT BACK TO SAY THIS IS
09:46:56 WHAT WE BELIEVE IS GOOD.
09:46:58 THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE IS BAD.
09:47:00 IT MIGHT BE A DISCUSSION AND MAYBE THE COUNCIL HAVE THE
09:47:02 DISCUSSION.
09:47:02 THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL WAS OR THAT'S WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION
09:47:05 THAT YOUR BOARD VOTED ON TO DO.
09:47:08 THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT IF THAT'S THE CASE.
09:47:10 I DON'T MIND THAT.
09:47:11 GOOD IDEA.
09:47:12 I THINK YOU NEED MORE THAN ONE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU'RE
09:47:15 TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH TO GET US WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
09:47:17 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:47:18 >> THANK YOU.
09:47:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:47:20 >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE THIS IS TOO RECENT, BUT WAS THE CRB
09:47:27 ASKED FOR THEIR ADVICE ON WHETHER THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE A
09:47:30 MUTE BUTTON ON THE BODY-WORN CAMERAS?
09:47:33 HAVE YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT THAT ISSUE AT ALL?
09:47:37 I SAW YOU HAD THE OTHER TOPICS, HAVE YOU ALL DISCUSSED THAT
09:47:40 ISSUE?
09:47:41 >> WE DID HAVE A RECENT PRESENTATION IN REFERENCE TO THE NEW
09:47:45 BUTTON.
09:47:46 THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION.
09:47:48 AT THIS POINT, THERE WASN'T ANY ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION TO
09:47:51 SEE HOW THAT FEATURE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO PLAY OUT.
09:47:54 IT DID GET A GREAT RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD, AND WE'LL SEE
09:47:58 HOW THAT NEW TECHNOLOGY BUTTON WORKS.
09:48:00 >>BILL CARLSON: IT SEEMS LIKE IN THE COMMUNITY PEOPLE ON ALL
09:48:05 SIDES ARE LOOKING AT PROS AND CONS.
09:48:07 IF YOU HAVE FEEDBACK ON IT IN THE FUTURE, PLEASE LET US
09:48:10 KNOW.
09:48:10 THE SECOND THING, YOU MENTIONED CRIME-FREE MULTI-HOUSING,
09:48:13 THE NEW VERSION WHICH CITY COUNCIL HELPED NEGOTIATE IS
09:48:17 CALLED SAFE, AND IT TAKES OUT A LOT OF THE MORE RACIST
09:48:22 POLICIES.
09:48:22 HAVE YOU ALL -- WAS THE CRB MADE AWARE THAT THE JUSTICE
09:48:30 DEPARTMENT WAS INVESTIGATING THE CITY STARTING IN DECEMBER
09:48:33 OR DID YOU ALL FIND OUT WITH US ON FRIDAY?
09:48:36 >> I CAN'T SPEAK IN REFERENCE TO THE ENTIRE BOARD, BUT --
09:48:42 >>BILL CARLSON: BUT AS A BOARD, NOBODY PRESENTED TO YOU ALL.
09:48:46 >> WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY NOTIFICATION AS A BOARD.
09:48:49 >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IF
09:48:51 YOU HAVE FEEDBACK.
09:48:52 IF YOU HAVE FEEDBACK INDIVIDUALLY OR AS A GROUP ON THAT
09:48:54 INVESTIGATION, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
09:48:56 IT BOTHERS ME AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY
09:48:58 BECAUSE THE SECOND JUSTICE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATION IN SEVEN
09:49:00 YEARS.
09:49:01 AND WE KNOW ANECDOTALLY THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN IN THE
09:49:06 COMMUNITY ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS ABUSES.
09:49:08 AND THAT'S NOT -- THAT'S NOT -- JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, IT
09:49:11 IS NOT A RANK-AND-FILE POLICE ISSUE.
09:49:14 IT IS A POLICY ISSUE.
09:49:15 SOMEBODY CREATED A POLICY TO DO THIS AND THE HARDWORKING MEN
09:49:18 AND WOMEN OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE FOLLOWING ORDERS, BUT
09:49:21 THE QUESTION IS, WHAT SHOULD THE POLICIES BE GOING FORWARD
09:49:24 AND HOW SHOULD WE ADDRESS THOSE?
09:49:26 THANK YOU.
09:49:27 >> THANK YOU.
09:49:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
09:49:28 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:49:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SAW THERE THAT TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD
09:49:33 MORE RECENTLY ATTENDED THE MEETINGS -- YES, RIGHT THERE.
09:49:38 I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A MEETING SINCE BEFORE COVID AND, OF
09:49:40 COURSE, EVERYTHING CHANGED.
09:49:43 BUT I WILL BE, NOW THAT WE'RE BACK IN PERSON AND WHATNOT,
09:49:46 YOU'LL SEE ME AT THE MEETINGS.
09:49:48 I WAS WATCHING EVERYTHING IN THE BACK IN MY OFFICE AND I
09:49:53 HAVE THE REPORT HERE.
09:49:54 I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
09:49:56 AND THANK YOU FOR SERVING ON THE BOARD.
09:49:58 I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY.
09:49:59 WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU.
09:50:01 >> QUITE WELCOME.
09:50:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:50:02 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:50:03 I WANT TO ECHO WHAT EVERYONE HAS SAID, MOST RECENTLY
09:50:06 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:50:07 THANK YOU FOR SERVING ON THIS BOARD.
09:50:10 IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SERVING HERE, WE
09:50:12 REALLY HAVE SOME OF OUR MOST DISTINGUISHED PEOPLE IN OUR
09:50:15 CITY FROM DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE SERVING ON THIS BOARD.
09:50:19 AND IT REALLY HELPS BREATHE, I THINK, A LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE
09:50:22 IN THE BOARD IN TERMS OF THE QUALITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
09:50:25 THERE, WHO COME FROM MANY, MANY DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE AND
09:50:28 BRING SO MUCH EXPERIENCE THERE.
09:50:30 SO COUNCILMAN CARLSON MENTIONED THE ISSUE OF THE BODY
09:50:35 CAMERAS AND THE MUTE BUTTONS ON THERE.
09:50:38 I GUESS I'LL BE FOLLOWING UP ON THAT.
09:50:40 I HADN'T HEARD MUCH ON THAT.
09:50:42 THAT'S SOMETHING OF INTEREST AND WHATNOT.
09:50:43 I ALSO AM DUE, AS THEY SAY, DUE FOR A CHECKUP, I'M DUE TO GO
09:50:48 TO YOUR ALL'S MEETING.
09:50:50 I DON'T THINK I'VE BEEN IN A YEAR AND A HALF.
09:50:51 SO I AM DUE AS WELL.
09:50:53 YOU WILL SEE ME THERE.
09:50:54 I'M DUE FOR A CHECKUP.
09:50:56 I ALSO, AGAIN, WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE
09:50:59 ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
09:51:02 THE LAST MEETING I WENT TO MUST HAVE BEEN MID 2020 AND YOU
09:51:07 ALL CARRY A HEAVY AGENDA AND A BIG DUTY.
09:51:11 SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT.
09:51:12 THANK YOU.
09:51:14 >> THANK YOU.
09:51:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
09:51:15 WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE WITH
09:51:19 YOU?
09:51:19 >> YES.
09:51:19 ON MY RIGHT IS COLONEL REYES, ALSO THE ACTING VICE-CHAIR OF
09:51:23 THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD.
09:51:25 AND ALSO OUR VOTING MEMBER MR. CARLOS VALDES.
09:51:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONGRATULATIONS, GENTLEMEN.
09:51:33 PLEASE, COLONEL.
09:51:35 >> COUNCILMEN, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
09:51:38 I'M VERY HUMBLED AND HONORED TO HAVE BEEN APPOINTED AND TO
09:51:41 SERVE THIS GREAT CITY.
09:51:43 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:51:45 AS THIS NEW YEAR APPROACHES, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALSO WORKING
09:51:48 WITH THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDING MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
09:51:50 SO WE CAN MEET THE -- HAVE THEIR OPINIONS COUNTED IN ALL THE
09:51:55 MATTERS THAT WE REVIEW.
09:51:57 WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR MEETINGS THAT WE'LL BE HOLDING
09:52:00 IN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
09:52:01 SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL AS THAT'S COMING DOWN THE
09:52:04 PIPELINE.
09:52:05 WE ALSO WANT TO WORK WITH THE PR OR MARKETING TEAM IN THE
09:52:07 CITY SO WE CAN PROMOTE THE MEETINGS SO WE CAN GET AS MANY
09:52:11 ATTENDEES ATTEND THE MEETINGS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:52:16 LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
09:52:17 BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THOSE SCHEDULED MEETINGS.
09:52:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE'LL HEAR FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
09:52:24 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THANK YOU.
09:52:25 CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
09:52:26 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THE BOARD TO PRESENT THE 2021 ANNUAL
09:52:30 REPORT.
09:52:31 I WILL BE, AS STATED FROM MR. VALDES, I WILL BE COORDINATING
09:52:36 WITH THE LEGISLATIVE AIDES TO GET THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS
09:52:39 SCHEDULED, AND I'VE ALREADY INITIATED THAT PROCESS SO YOU'LL
09:52:42 BE HEARING ABOUT THAT MORE SOON ABOUT THE DATES FOR THE
09:52:47 COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
09:52:48 ALSO, ACCORDING TO CODE SECTION 18-8, SUBSECTION I-2, I'M
09:52:53 PRESENTING TO MR. SHELBY THE CERTIFICATION THAT EACH COUNCIL
09:52:58 MEMBER MUST SIGN REGARDING THE PRESENTATION OF THE ANNUAL
09:53:01 REPORT.
09:53:02 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
09:53:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF NO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAS ANY, IT WAS
09:53:09 MY HOPE THAT THIS BOARD WOULD GROW ORGANICALLY, AND IT HAS.
09:53:15 I WAS ALSO HOPING THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THE CITY COUNCIL
09:53:18 MEMBERS HERE A LIST OF DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT YOU MAY THINK
09:53:22 YOU MAY NEED, YOU MAY WANT TO HELP BETTER YOUR BOARD
09:53:26 MEETINGS, TO HELP BETTER YOUR IDEAS AND THOUGHTS ABOUT YOUR
09:53:33 BOARD.
09:53:34 DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THOSE ITEMS LISTED?
09:53:35 WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT ANY OF THOSE ITEMS IN THE FUTURE?
09:53:39 >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
09:53:40 WE CAN LIST THOSE THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
09:53:42 BEING THAT WE'RE UNDER THIS NEW ORDINANCE, I WOULD PREFER TO
09:53:44 USE THE TOOLS GIVEN TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT BEFORE MAKING
09:53:49 ANY ADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENTS.
09:53:52 WE'RE STILL GETTING ACCLIMATED TO THE NEW PROCESS.
09:54:00 IF THERE ARE CHANGES MADE, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET
09:54:04 A RECOMMENDATION.
09:54:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE LET US KNOW.
09:54:11 AS COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE ON
09:54:14 YOUR BOARD.
09:54:15 TELL THEM WE SAID THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:16 THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
09:54:27 WE WILL NOW HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:54:35 >> GOOD MORNING, AND THANK YOU.
09:54:36 WHITMORE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CITY TREE, ORGANIZER OF THE
09:54:39 GO FUND ME TO DEFEND DINGFELDER.
09:54:41 IN THE INTEREST OF FULL DISCLOSURE, POLITICAL CARTOONIST FOR
09:54:44 THE CREATIVE LOAFING.
09:54:46 I LOOK FORWARD TO DRAWING YOU SOON.
09:54:49 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:54:49 WHEN I STARTED THE GO FUND ME FOR JOHN DINGFELDER, I DID IT
09:54:53 WITH ONE GOAL IN MIND, HELP JOHN AND HIS FAMILY RECOVER
09:54:57 FINANCIALLY FROM A FIGHT THEY NEVER SHOULD HAVE FOUGHT
09:55:00 ALONE.
09:55:01 IT IS INTENDED TO HELP JOHN PAY LEGAL BILLS INCURRED WHILE
09:55:04 DEFENDING HIMSELF FROM AN ATTACK ON DEVELOPER'S INTENT OF
09:55:08 REMOVING HIM FROM OFFICE.
09:55:10 AS TIME WENT ON, THE GO FUND ME BECAME MORE THAN JUST MONEY.
09:55:14 BECAME A PLACE WHERE CITIZENS AND FRIENDS COULD LEAVE JOHN
09:55:17 AND LYNN WORDS OF SUPPORT.
09:55:18 A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COULD DEFEND JOHN'S CHARACTER AND
09:55:21 CELEBRATE HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS WITH COMMENTS LIKE THIS.
09:55:24 JOHN DINGFELDER DID NOT USE HIS OFFICE FOR PERSONAL GAIN.
09:55:27 HE WAS NOT FOUND GUILTY BY ANY COURT.
09:55:29 HE TRIED TO SERVE THE PEOPLE NOT THE PROFITEERS, SO HE WAS
09:55:32 HARASSED OUT OF OFFICE.
09:55:34 THOSE WHO FILED SUIT AGAINST HIM WERE SO SURE ALLEGATIONS
09:55:37 COULD BEAR PUBLIC SCRUTINY, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE INSISTED ON
09:55:40 A GAG ORDER.
09:55:41 THIS ONE FROM AN OLD FRIEND OF JOHN'S, I DONATED BECAUSE
09:55:44 JOHN IS ONE OF THE MOST ETHICAL PEOPLE I KNOW.
09:55:47 I'VE KNOWN JOHN SINCE I FIRST STEPPED ON THE CAMPUS OF THE
09:55:49 UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IN 1974.
09:55:51 I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER PERSON OR HUMAN BEING THAN JOHN.
09:55:54 FINALLY, THIS ONE ACCOMPANIED BY A $5 DONATION, WE ELECTED
09:55:59 JOHN BECAUSE FOR DECADES HE'S PROVEN TO SUPPORT FOR OUR
09:56:02 ENVIRONMENT AND NEEDS FOR ALL, INCLUDING POOR PEOPLE IN THE
09:56:05 AREA OF SULPHUR SPRINGS.
09:56:08 USING MONEY AND NARROW INTERESTS TO BULLY OUR CHOSEN
09:56:11 SPOKESMAN IS AN ATTACK ON OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND
09:56:14 IGNORES OUR VALUES.
09:56:16 WHAT HAPPENED TO JOHN DINGFELDER SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED
09:56:19 AND GOD WILLING WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
09:56:22 THERE'S AN AGENDA ITEM YOU ADDRESSED TODAY THAT IS THE
09:56:25 BEGINNING OF AN ATTEMPT TO PROTECT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS
09:56:28 FROM THE DEEP POCKETS AND SINISTER ATTACKS THAT FORCE A GOOD
09:56:32 AND INCREDIBLY COMPETENT MAN OFF THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:56:35 THOSE ITEMS -- THESE ITEMS ARE A TRIBUTE TO JOHN IN
09:56:38 RECOGNITION THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO JOHN IS WRONG AND SHOULD
09:56:41 NEVER HAVE HAPPENED.
09:56:42 IF YOU THINK ABOUT JOHN, YOU LOOK AT THAT EMPTY SEAT, WHEN
09:56:47 YOU GET THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DEFEND YOURSELVES FROM THE VILE
09:56:51 AND WICKED FORCES WHO SET THEMSELVES AGAINST OUR FRAGILE
09:56:55 DEMOCRACY FOR PERSONAL PROFIT AND GAIN.
09:56:57 I WILL END BY AGAIN DRAWING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE EMPTY
09:57:01 CHAIR.
09:57:02 WE'VE LOST AN INCREDIBLE COMPETENT AND EFFECTIVE COUNCILMAN
09:57:06 WHEN JOHN WAS FORCED OUT OF THE SEAT.
09:57:09 IT WAS AN ATTACK ON THE CITY.
09:57:11 WE CANNOT LET STAND.
09:57:13 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:57:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:57:21 >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:57:25 THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, WE NEED A JOHN DINGFELDER, CONNIE
09:57:28 BURTON, MAYORAL CANDIDATE POSITION TO REPRESENT THIS CITY.
09:57:38 WE SEE HOW THIS CITY OPERATES TODAY WHEN SOMEBODY IS ABSENT,
09:57:43 BEEN ABSENT TWO OR FOUR OCCASIONS AND GETTING THE ELECTED
09:57:47 POSITION, WHEN SOMEBODY WHO IS PRESENT AND WHO HAS BEEN HERE
09:57:50 DIDN'T GET THAT POSITION.
09:57:51 BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, WHO ARE THE CHRISTIANS IN THE
09:57:56 PHOTOGRAPH STANDING BEHIND JULIUS CAESAR SUPPORTING THE
09:57:59 PROSECUTION OF SO-CALLED CHRISTIAN HERETICS?
09:58:02 WHO ARE THE PROTESTANTS IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS STANDING BEHIND
09:58:06 POPE PAUL THE III IN 1534 AT THE OFFICIAL START OF THE
09:58:10 PROTESTANT REFORMATION?
09:58:11 WHO ARE THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS STANDING IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS
09:58:13 BEHIND THE CAPITALISTS, OIL, GAS, AND TECH GIANTS THAT HAVE
09:58:17 BEEN DESTROYING THE ENVIRONMENT SINCE THE SO-CALLED
09:58:19 INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION?
09:58:20 WHO ARE THE INDIGENOUS INDIANS IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS STANDING
09:58:23 BEHIND EVERY UNITED STATES PRESIDENT FROM GEORGE WASHINGTON
09:58:25 TO JOSEPH BIDEN SUPPORTING THE THEFT OF NATIVE AMERICAN
09:58:29 LAND?
09:58:30 WHO ARE THE AFRICANS STANDING IN THE PHOTOGRAPH BEHIND
09:58:32 GENERAL ROBERT E. LEE AND PRESIDENT JEFFERSON DAVIS
09:58:35 SUPPORTING WHITE OWNERSHIP OF AFRICAN PEOPLE?
09:58:38 WHO ARE THE AFRICANS IN THE PHOTOGRAPH BEHIND LEOPOLD THE II
09:58:40 OR KING OF THE BELGIANS SUPPORTING LIMB AMPUTATION AND
09:58:44 GENOCIDES OF TENS OF MILLIONS NATIVE CONGOLESE AFRICANS?
09:58:49 WHO ARE THE JEWS IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS STANDING BEHIND
09:58:50 ADOLF HITLER AND HEINRICH HIMMLER SUPPORTING CONCENTRATION
09:58:53 CAMPS AND THE NAZIFICATION OF EUROPE?
09:58:56 WHO ARE THE JAPANESE IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS STANDING BEHIND
09:58:57 THEODORE ROOSEVELT SUPPORTING JAPANESE INTERNMENT CAMPS?
09:59:02 WHO ARE THE AFRICANS IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS STANDING BEHIND THE
09:59:03 UNITED STATES PRESIDENT SUPPORTING THE WAR ON DRUGS, THE WAR
09:59:06 ON CRIME, GENTRIFICATION, SEGREGATION, INTEGRATION,
09:59:10 INTERNATIONAL WHITE POWER, NATIONAL WHITE POWER, LOCAL WHITE
09:59:13 POWER, ALL OTHER PEOPLE'S RESOURCES, INGENUITY AND
09:59:16 COLLECTIVE SELF-DETERMINATION?
09:59:17 WHO ARE THE UKRAINIANS IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS STANDING BEHIND
09:59:20 VLADIMIR PUTIN SUPPORTING UKRAINIAN GENTRIFICATION OR THE
09:59:23 WAR IN UKRAINE?
09:59:24 WHO WERE THE AFRICANS IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS STANDING BEHIND
09:59:28 TAMPA MAYOR JANE CASTOR ON FRIDAY, APRIL 29th, 2022, AS
09:59:33 THE MAYOR EXPLAINED THE BENEFITS OF BICYCLE STOPS, BLACK
09:59:37 HATRED, CRIME-FREE APARTMENTS, AND OTHER PROGRAMS THAT
09:59:41 DISCRIMINATORILY AND ADVERSELY AFFECT AFRICAN PEOPLE IN THIS
09:59:46 CITY?
09:59:46 THOSE WERE THE SAME PEOPLE STANDING BEHIND JULIUS CAESAR,
09:59:48 ADOLF HITLER, POPE PAUL III, KING LEOPOLD, JEFFERSON DAVIS,
09:59:48 GENERAL ROBERT E. LEE, NIXON WAR ON CRIME, WAR ON DRUGS,
09:59:48 RONALD REAGAN, SAY NO TO DRUGS, DONALD TRUMP, IMMIGRATION,
09:59:57 MIGRATION POLICIES.
09:59:58 THEY ARE THE TRAITORS OF THE WORLD.
10:00:00 THEY ARE THE SCUM OF THEIR RACE.
10:00:02 THEY ARE THE KIND THAT WILL SELL THEIR PERSONAL SOULS FOR
10:00:04 FINANCIAL REWARD.
10:00:05 WE REAL AFRICANS AND REAL PEOPLE IN GENERAL HAVE TO EXPOSE
10:00:09 THOSE TRAITORS TO THE WORLD IN REAL-TIME AND DISCONTINUE THE
10:00:13 PRACTICE OF GIVING THEM A PASS TO ALLOW THEM TO CONNECT WITH
10:00:16 WHITE POWER TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE EXISTENCE OF AFRICAN AND
10:00:19 AFRICAN PEOPLE.
10:00:20 WE ARE 26% OF THIS POPULATION.
10:00:22 AND IF YOU LOOK RIGHT DOWNSTAIRS, THERE IS A PHOTOGRAPH IN
10:00:24 THE CITY BUILDING THAT DEPICTS NO AFRICANS ON IT.
10:00:29 THAT NEED TO COME DOWN.
10:00:30 THANK YOU.
10:00:39 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:00:39 MY NAME IS BARBARA VAN AIRSDALE.
10:00:41 I'VE BEEN HERE A FEW TIMES BEFORE.
10:00:44 TODAY IS MY YEAR ANNIVERSARY IN TAMPA.
10:00:46 I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE.
10:00:47 I LOVE TAMPA.
10:00:48 I ALSO NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN TAMPA, WHICH I'VE NOT BEEN
10:00:51 ABLE TO FIND.
10:00:54 I'M DUMBFOUNDED AT THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AND HOW
10:00:58 NOBODY WILL MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO SEE ME OR TALK TO ME,
10:01:01 EVEN THOUGH I'M ON THEIR WAIT LIST.
10:01:03 I DID THE APPLICATION PROCESS AT THE MARY BETHUNE BUILDING
10:01:06 WHEN I MOVED HERE.
10:01:07 THAT WAS BACK IN AUGUST.
10:01:09 THEY TOOK A CHECK FROM ME THAT DAY.
10:01:11 I DON'T KNOW WHO IT WAS, BUT BY ABOUT 4:30 IN THE AFTERNOON
10:01:15 THEY GAVE ME A CHECK BACK AND SAID I DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR THE
10:01:19 WEST RIVER DEVELOPMENT FOR WHATEVER REASON.
10:01:21 BUT I COULD BE WAIT-LISTED ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR
10:01:25 WHEREVER TO GET AN AFFORDABLE PLACE TO LIVE.
10:01:27 WELL, IT'S BEEN A WHOLE YEAR NOW.
10:01:29 I HAVEN'T FOUND ANY PLACE TO MOVE TO.
10:01:32 I'M LIVING IN A DESPERATE SITUATION WHERE I ALMOST GOT
10:01:36 KILLED TWO DAYS AGO FALLING OFF MY PORCH.
10:01:38 MY LIFE WAS THIS CLOSE TO IN MY HANDS AGAIN.
10:01:42 A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, I WENT TO SOCIAL SECURITY.
10:01:46 I FELL ON THE CONCRETE IN FRONT OF THE DISABILITY OFFICE
10:01:49 WITH A HOLE IN THE SIDEWALK.
10:01:51 I HAD A FRIEND TAKE ME THERE THAT DAY.
10:01:54 THE PARAMEDICS CAME AND PICKED ME UP.
10:01:56 THAT WAS GOOD FRIDAY.
10:01:57 I WENT BACK HOME.
10:01:58 I BED RESTED UNTIL I CAME TO THE MEETING THE NEXT WEEK ON
10:02:02 FRIDAY MORNING TO PLEAD WITH YOU, PLEASE, GET ME INTO TAMPA
10:02:06 HOUSING.
10:02:07 MARY BETHUNE BUILDING HAS OPENINGS, VACANCIES, NOBODY IS
10:02:12 MOVING IN.
10:02:13 NOBODY IS TRANSPARENT.
10:02:15 THE CLUBHOUSE, THEIR REC ROOMS, THE MEDICAL CENTER, ALL
10:02:19 THESE THINGS THAT MONEY HAS BEEN FILTERED INTO IS NOT BEING
10:02:22 USED.
10:02:23 THEY ARE LOCKED UP.
10:02:24 THE RESTROOMS ARE LOCKED UP.
10:02:26 PEOPLE ARE LIVING THERE THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE, AND I
10:02:30 DESERVE IT.
10:02:31 MY GRANDFATHER, MY PARENTS, MY ANCESTORS CAME TO AMERICA AND
10:02:39 -- RAISED THE AMERICAN FLAG IN NEW AMSTERDAM HARBOR WHEN
10:02:45 SAILED OUT OF AMERICA AND SETTLED HERE AND PROUD AMERICANS.
10:02:48 I WANT TO DIE IN TAMPA. I THOUGHT 36 YEARS TO MOVE FROM
10:02:51 FT. LAUDERDALE TO GET UP HERE AND RETIRE.
10:02:54 GOD BLESS US BECAUSE WE'RE IN A STATE WHERE NOBODY IS
10:02:57 HELPING EACH OTHER THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
10:02:59 KINDNESS COMES FROM HELPING THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU.
10:03:05 THEN THE NEXT PERSON HELPS THAT PERSON, AND IT'S A CHAIN
10:03:07 REACTION.
10:03:08 IT DOESN'T COST A THING.
10:03:10 I WORKED IN NEW YORK CITY.
10:03:12 I WORKED IN BEVERLY HILLS, WORKED IN FT. LAUDERDALE.
10:03:15 I'M NOW WORKING ON TAMPA TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER.
10:03:20 THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME TODAY.
10:03:22 I NEED TO GET HOME.
10:03:30 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
10:03:33 MY NAME IS SHAWN WILSON.
10:03:34 I LIVE AT 3714 WEST ROLAND STREET.
10:03:38 I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION,
10:03:41 WHICH IS A LOVELY, VERY SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:03:43 WE INVITE YOU TO DINE THERE AND GO TO CVS AND CUT THROUGH,
10:03:47 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.
10:03:49 WE KNOW IT HAPPENS, BUT WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF OUR LITTLE
10:03:52 NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS RAPIDLY REDEVELOPING.
10:03:54 HOWEVER, TODAY I'M HERE IN MY CAPACITY AS PRESIDENT OF BLUE
10:03:57 SKY COMMUNITIES WITH OFFICES AT 5300 WEST CYPRESS.
10:04:01 BLUE SKY COMMUNITIES IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER, AND
10:04:05 WE'RE GETTING READY TO CELEBRATE OUR TEN-YEAR ANNIVERSARY.
10:04:08 WE HAVE RAPIDLY BECOME ONE OF THE MOST ACTIVE AFFORDABLE
10:04:11 HOUSING DEVELOPERS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
10:04:15 AND WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE.
10:04:16 SO I WANT TO THANK THE CITY FOR A SMALL LOCAL MATCH
10:04:21 CONTRIBUTION THAT THE CITY MADE LAST SUMMER TO A DEVELOPMENT
10:04:25 THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ON NEBRASKA IN COUNCILMAN VIERA'S
10:04:30 DISTRICT.
10:04:31 THAT LOCAL MATCH LEVERAGED OUR ABILITY TO APPLY FOR ABOUT
10:04:35 $20 MILLION OF FEDERAL FUNDING THROUGH THE 9% TAX CREDITS
10:04:40 PROGRAM.
10:04:41 AND WE ARE PROCEEDING THROUGH SOME COMPLICATED PERMITTING,
10:04:46 COMPLICATED FUNDING STRUCTURES, AND WE'RE DOING THAT WITH
10:04:51 THE CONTINUED ASSISTANCE OF THE CITY.
10:04:53 SO TODAY I WANT TO EXPRESS APPRECIATION TO ABBYE FEELEY AND
10:04:58 KAYON HENDERSON IN THEIR RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENTS.
10:05:02 AGAIN, WE HAVE COMPLICATED PERMITTING WITH D.O.T. AND
10:05:05 COMPLICATED FUNDING ISSUES THAT WE'RE RESOLVING, BUT WE'RE
10:05:09 PROCEEDING.
10:05:10 AND IF ALL GOES AS PLANNED AND IN SEVERAL MONTHS BLUE SKY
10:05:13 COMMUNITIES WILL BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION ON OUR FIRST
10:05:15 AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:05:20 AND IT'S CALLED THE ADDERLEY.
10:05:24 I KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE CALLED THE ADDERLEY SO WE MAY
10:05:29 HAVE TO CHANGE OUR NAME.
10:05:31 I NOTICED THE CLOCK DIDN'T STOP.
10:05:33 I'LL TRY TO KEEP MY TIME SHORT.
10:05:35 THE ADDERLEY IS 128 UNITS.
10:05:37 IT'S APARTMENTS.
10:05:38 IT'S A FIVE-STORY BUILDING ON NEBRASKA JUST NORTH OF BUSCH.
10:05:48 IT IS GEARED TOWARDS FAMILIES EARNING 60% AMI OR LESS.
10:05:51 ALTHOUGH WE HAVE SOME UNITS AT 30% AMI AND WE HAVE A FEW
10:05:54 UNITS AT 80% AMI.
10:05:56 OTHER THAN THAT, ALL OF THE UNITS WILL BE AT 60% AMI.
10:05:59 IT WILL BE AFFORDABLE FOR 50 YEARS, SO THAT'S 600 MONTHS.
10:06:04 SO THE CITY'S FUNDING IS CERTAINLY BEING STRETCHED A LONG
10:06:07 WAY.
10:06:08 AGAIN, I DO THANK THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE STAFF FOR
10:06:12 WORKING WITH BLUE SKY COMMUNITIES ON THE ADDERLEY, AND I
10:06:15 WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP YOU ALL UPDATED AS WE GET CLOSER.
10:06:19 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:06:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:06:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME THANK YOU.
10:06:23 I SIT ON THE BOARD FOR THE COUNTY.
10:06:26 BLUE SKIES IS DOING A LOT OF WORK WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:06:28 THE DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE IN THE COUNTY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE
10:06:31 DONE, I PASS THERE A LOT OF TIMES, IT LOOKS VERY NICE.
10:06:37 I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE A DEVELOPER WHO UNDERSTANDS THE NEEDS
10:06:40 OF THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE
10:06:42 HOUSING.
10:06:43 VERY SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR ORGANIZATION BECAUSE I SEE THE WORK
10:06:45 YOU'RE PUTTING IN AND YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.
10:06:48 I'M GLAD YOU'RE STARTING TO MOVE INTO THE CITY NOW BECAUSE
10:06:50 EVERYONE IS IN THE CITY.
10:06:51 SO WE NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:06:53 YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PERCENTAGES SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND.
10:06:56 THERE IS A DEVELOPER OUT THERE WHO IS WILLING TO WORK WITH
10:06:59 THE PEOPLE.
10:07:00 AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
10:07:01 >> THANK YOU.
10:07:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:07:03 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:07:04 I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID.
10:07:06 I SALUTE YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
10:07:08 YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB IN MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE
10:07:11 PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK AND GET UP AND WORK HARD EVERY DAY WITH
10:07:14 AFFORD A HOUSE.
10:07:15 TODAY, I DIDN'T GET TO READ THE TIMES AS WELL AS I USUALLY
10:07:18 DO, BUT I THINK I SAW, IF I READ IT CORRECTLY, THE AVERAGE
10:07:22 RENT NOW IN TAMPA BAY AREA IS ABOUT $2,000, WHICH IS
10:07:26 REMARKABLE.
10:07:27 THAT'S $24,000 A YEAR.
10:07:29 YOU EARN $75,000 FOR A HOUSEHOLD, THAT IS A THIRD OF YOUR
10:07:34 GROSS INCOME BEFORE TAXES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
10:07:36 SO WE REALLY NEED ORGANIZATIONS AND ENTITIES LIKE YOURS THAT
10:07:39 MAKE JUST A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT HOUSING ACCESSIBLE TO MORE AND
10:07:44 MORE PEOPLE.
10:07:44 THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
10:07:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. WILSON.
10:07:53 128 UNITS MIGHT BE A DROP IN THE BUCKET, BUT IT'S 128, 100%
10:07:57 OF IT IS GOING TO SOMEONE WHO NEEDS AND LOOKING FOR HOUSING.
10:08:00 SO YOU'RE 100% OF THE 100%.
10:08:03 I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION FOR THAT.
10:08:06 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:08:06 I MEAN, I WOULD ONLY ADD -- I MEAN, IT'S REALLY BLUE SKY'S
10:08:11 GOAL TO HELP LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS IN THE
10:08:14 AREA OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:08:20 WE ALSO LIKE TO BRING A LOT OF BANG FOR THE BUCK.
10:08:20 WE HAVE A LOCAL ARCHITECT, BDG ARCHITECTS.
10:08:23 WE HAVE A LOCAL CITY OF TAMPA CERTIFIED MBE FIRM DOING THE
10:08:23 CIVIL ENGINEERING, HIGH POINT ENGINEERING.
10:08:27 WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE IT A BIG COMMUNITY EFFORT.
10:08:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:08:35 >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON, CHAIRPERSON OF THE NAACP.
10:08:41 I DON'T NORMALLY SAY THAT BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THIS
10:08:44 MORNING BECAUSE WHAT I WITNESSED THIS MORNING IS THAT
10:08:48 ALTHOUGH I HEAR TRUMPISM A LOT ON NATIONAL TV, I'M LOOKING
10:08:53 AT CASTRO-ISM HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:08:59 I SEE WHY COUNCILMAN CARLSON COULD NEVER BE THE CHAIR
10:09:05 BECAUSE HE'S WILLING TO TALK THE WATER OF THE PEOPLE.
10:09:09 THE ISSUES BEING BROUGHT UP EVEN WITH WHAT THE CRB HAD NO
10:09:13 RECOMMENDATIONS AND YOU GOT A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION DEALING
10:09:18 WITH ISSUES THAT HAVE DIRECT IMPACT ON BROWN AND BLACK
10:09:23 PEOPLE.
10:09:24 NO RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:09:25 NO RECOMMENDATIONS, NO CONVERSATION ABOUT COMING INTO THE
10:09:29 HEART OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO TALK TO OUR PEOPLE AS
10:09:34 OPPOSED TO THEY CAN COME DOWN TO THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER
10:09:37 BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF DISTRICT 5.
10:09:39 SO UNACCEPTABLE.
10:09:41 BUT WHAT BRINGS ME HERE THIS MORNING AS WE TALK ABOUT
10:09:44 HOUSING CONTINUOUSLY, MADISON ON 37th WHERE THEY JUST
10:09:53 BUILT THIS WONDERFUL DEVELOPMENT, INSIDE THE NAACP OFFICE
10:09:55 PEOPLE ARE COMING IN CONSTANTLY COMPLAINING, CITIZEN,
10:10:00 ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT RECEIVE $1400 A MONTH TOTAL INCOME, RENT
10:10:05 HAS ESCALATED TO OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
10:10:09 OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
10:10:12 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN MARKETED AS HELPING
10:10:15 LOW-INCOME PEOPLE.
10:10:18 LAST WEEK, WE TALKED ABOUT FECES, MOLD, RATS, IN THE MIDDLE
10:10:28 OF THIS CITY.
10:10:28 BLACK CHILDREN TRYING TO COPE, TRYING TO LEARN IN THAT
10:10:33 ENVIRONMENT AND THEY CAN'T DO IT.
10:10:34 BUT WE ARE THANKFUL THAT CONGRESSMAN MARCO RUBIO WROTE A
10:10:41 LETTER TO HUD -- I'LL LEAVE IT FOR YOU SO MAYBE YOU CAN
10:10:44 SCRATCH OFF SOMETHING FROM THIS LETTER -- AND THIS COUNCIL
10:10:48 WILL HAVE SOME COURAGE TO SAY TO HUD, TAKE CARE OF THE
10:10:52 ISSUE.
10:10:53 THAT IS NOT RIGHT FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE TO LIVE IN DEPLORABLE
10:10:58 CONDITIONS EVEN IF IT MEANS OTHER FUNDING SOURCES ARE
10:11:02 QUESTIONED.
10:11:05 LASTLY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH OUR CHILDREN?
10:11:08 WE ARE TIRED OF THEM PICKING UP PAPER.
10:11:11 WE WANT THEM TO HAVE REAL SUMMER OPPORTUNITY.
10:11:13 BUT BEFORE THEY CAN EVEN HAVE A SUMMER JOB, I'M LOOKING AT
10:11:16 WHERE COULD MY GRANDDAUGHTER GO AND HAVE SOME LIKE GYMNASTIC
10:11:22 ACTIVITY?
10:11:23 I KNOW YOU COUNCILMAN GUDES TALKING ABOUT BUILDING OVER IN
10:11:26 THE FAIR OAKS.
10:11:27 THERE IS ZERO NOTHING FOR OUR CHILDREN TO DO OVER THE
10:11:30 SUMMER.
10:11:31 NOTHING.
10:11:32 WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE NORTH TAMPA,
10:11:35 GYMNASTICS, HIP-HOP DANCING, ANYTHING THEY WANT TO DO IS
10:11:40 THERE FOR THEM.
10:11:40 THE CRISIS IS NOW FOR THIS COUNCIL TO DEAL WITH THE
10:11:46 DISPARITIES THAT WE HAVE IN THIS CITY AND FIND A WAY TO HAVE
10:11:51 REAL INCLUSION.
10:11:53 AND LASTLY, IF I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE
10:11:56 FEDS, I'M GOING TO LEARN.
10:11:57 THANK YOU.
10:11:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. BURTON.
10:11:59 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:12:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. BURTON, I'M VERY FAMILIAR.
10:12:05 I WAS OVER AT THE MADISON TWO MONTHS AGO.
10:12:08 I WAS INVITED BY THE RESIDENTS.
10:12:09 I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT, YOU SAID THE RENT INCREASED OVER A
10:12:12 THOUSAND DOLLARS NOW?
10:12:13 >> I'LL LEAVE A COPY, IF I CAN.
10:12:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU GET THAT FOR ME, MS. MICHEL?
10:12:21 I'LL MAKE SURE I MAKE A CALL TO MR. McCRAY, BECAUSE THAT
10:12:25 IS A VERY SENIOR PLACE.
10:12:27 AND THAT SURPRISING THAT IS HAPPENING.
10:12:29 I WILL LOOK INTO THAT.
10:12:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE LETTER.
10:12:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:12:35 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:12:37 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:12:38 ANY OPPOSED?
10:12:39 LET THE RECORD REFLECT THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:12:45 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:12:46 CONGRATULATIONS.
10:12:49 MY NAME IS EDDIE ADAMS, JUNIOR.
10:12:51 AND I AM HERE TO RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT ALL OF YOU READ A
10:12:59 BOOK BY WAYNE PERRYMAN CALLED "UNFOUNDED LOYALTY" WHICH
10:13:05 TALKS ABOUT BLACK FOLKS' LOYALTY TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
10:13:12 AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS
10:13:14 A DEMOCRAT.
10:13:15 THE HOUSE IS DEMOCRATIC.
10:13:16 THE SENATE IS DEMOCRATIC.
10:13:18 AND FOR SOME REASON THE WHITE FOLKS' VOTING RIGHTS EXPIRE.
10:13:26 THE WOMEN GOT THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
10:13:28 IT DIDN'T HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE.
10:13:31 BUT BLACK FOLKS HAD EXPIRATION DATE AND IT KEEP EXPIRING.
10:13:34 ALL THEY GOT TO DO IS HAVE A MEETING ONE DAY AND SAY WE'LL
10:13:38 MAKE THIS THE LAW OF THE LAND AND WE'VE GOT IT FOREVER.
10:13:41 WHAT I'M TALKING TO YOU ABOUT GETS TO THE POINT THAT ALL OF
10:13:44 YOU GUYS ARE DEMOCRATS.
10:13:46 24% OF YOUR CONSTITUENCY HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IS BLACK.
10:13:51 BLACK FOLKS PAY TAXES.
10:13:53 WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
10:13:54 YOU TAKE TAXES OUT OF OUR MONEY.
10:13:57 BUT -- AND I'LL ASK THE COUNCIL, THE CHAIRMAN, IF YOU COULD
10:14:02 AT SOME POINT, I'M AVAILABLE, FIND OUT HOW MUCH OF THE
10:14:07 CITY'S ANNUAL BUDGET IS RETURNED TO THE COMMUNITY BY THE
10:14:12 CITY OF TAMPA DOING BUSINESS WITH BLACK BUSINESSES BECAUSE I
10:14:20 DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER ANYMORE.
10:14:23 IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE I GAVE
10:14:26 YOU GUYS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHEN I CAME HOW A
10:14:30 MULTIBILLION DOLLAR LOCAL BUSINESS DOES MONEY, RETURNS MONEY
10:14:37 TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT.
10:14:42 IF YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW, THEN YOU DON'T SEE IT AS A PROBLEM.
10:14:45 IF YOU DON'T SEE IT AS A PROBLEM, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO
10:14:48 ANYTHING TO RECTIFY OR CORRECT IT.
10:14:50 FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU SAY TO US, IT'S 2% OR LESS THAN 2% AND
10:14:54 YOU SEE FOR YOURSELF HOW SHAMEFUL THAT IS FOR THE CITY OF
10:14:59 TAMPA TO ONLY -- UNLESS THEY GOT ANOTHER WAY FOR YOU GUYS TO
10:15:04 RETURN MONEY TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
10:15:06 AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MINORITIES, BECAUSE THERE ARE A
10:15:08 LOT OF WAYS THAT MINORITY THING HAPPEN AND WE STILL DON'T
10:15:11 GET ANY MONEY BACK FROM THE CITY OR OTHER INSTITUTIONS
10:15:17 BECAUSE WHITE WOMEN IS CONSIDERED TO BE A MINORITY.
10:15:19 SO YOU CAN GIVE ALL THE BUSINESS TO WHITE WOMEN AND THEN
10:15:22 SAY, WELL, WE DID BUSINESS WITH MINORITY.
10:15:24 WELL, THAT'S NOT MY CONCERN.
10:15:27 MY CONCERN IS HOW YOU RETURN MONEY TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY
10:15:33 BECAUSE WITH TWO -- MAYBE NOT 2 BILLION BUT CLOSE TO $2
10:15:37 BILLION BUDGET, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY
10:15:40 IS RETURNED TO A COMMUNITY THAT'S PAYING 24% OF THE TAXES TO
10:15:46 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:15:49 I LEARNED FROM THE MEETING LAST WEEK, IF I POINT THAT TO THE
10:15:53 CHAIRMAN OR POINT IT TO A MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL, MAYBE I
10:15:56 MAY GET A REPLY BACK.
10:15:58 THANK YOU.
10:15:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. ADAMS.
10:16:01 NEXT, PLEASE.
10:16:14 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN.
10:16:17 MY NAME IS -- WELL, CITY OF TAMPA COUNCILMEN.
10:16:21 MY NAME IS IRMA CELESTINE.
10:16:26 I LIVE AT 812 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE FOR MORE THAN, I WOULD
10:16:30 SAY, 18 YEARS I'VE BEEN HAVING PROBLEM WITH THE FOUNDATION
10:16:36 OF MY HOME.
10:16:38 AND TO BE HONEST, I COULD HAVE SELL IT AND KEEP GOING, BUT I
10:16:42 DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FAIR TO THE NEXT PERSON
10:16:44 WHETHER THEY HAVE MONEY OR NOT, WOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
10:16:50 BUT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE FOR MANY YEARS
10:16:54 NOW, AND I'VE BEEN GETTING THE RUNAROUND.
10:16:58 AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. COUNCILMAN GUDES WHO REFERRED
10:17:05 ME TO SOMEONE, WHICH I SPOKE BRIEFLY, WHICH I'M GOING TO GET
10:17:12 TOGETHER WITH HER IN ORDER TO RESOLVE MY PROBLEM.
10:17:20 WE LIVE IN A WORLD THAT I SEE THERE IS NO SO-CALLED
10:17:25 CIVILIZATION.
10:17:31 WE TREAT EACH OTHER -- WE ALL ARE HUMAN AND WE ARE JUST
10:17:36 PASSING THROUGH.
10:17:38 THERE IS A TIME THAT WE COME INTO THIS EARTH AND THERE WILL
10:17:42 BE A TIME THAT WE MUST MOVE ON.
10:17:46 WHY CAN'T WE SETTLE DOWN, I WOULD SAY, BECAUSE AT ANY TIME
10:17:56 OR ANY POINT, SOMEONE, BECAUSE OF THEIR EGO CAN EXTERMINATE
10:18:03 EACH OTHER OR DO HARM TO EACH OTHER.
10:18:06 IF WE WOULD MORE OR LESS REALIZE OUR SURROUNDING AND DO
10:18:19 BETTER.
10:18:21 BECAUSE AT THE POINT NOW, AT MY AGE I'M LOOKING AT, IT'S
10:18:25 REALLY SAD.
10:18:26 I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE, BUT EVENTUALLY YOU'RE
10:18:31 NOT GOING TO TAKE IT WITH YOU, AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE
10:18:35 WE ALL GOING.
10:18:36 WE HEARD.
10:18:39 JUST BE GOOD TO LOOK -- YOU SEE EARTH.
10:18:44 LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE.
10:18:46 YEAH.
10:18:47 TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING.
10:18:50 PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING.
10:18:56 WHATEVER IS THE COLOR.
10:18:57 WHEN I WAS BORN, I HEARD THERE ARE ONLY FOUR RACES.
10:19:01 NOW THERE ARE SO MANY RACES.
10:19:03 WE CAN'T EVEN CLASSIFY OURSELVES AS BEING WHAT.
10:19:07 WE ALL HAVE IN OUR DNA, LITTLE THINGS IN THERE.
10:19:12 ANYWAY, THANK YOU, MR. GUDES.
10:19:14 I'M GOING TO PROCEED AND I DO EXPECT GOOD RESULTS.
10:19:21 THANK YOU.
10:19:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:19:39 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:19:40 MAY GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
10:19:42 I'LL READ SOME SCRIPTURE FROM YOU BOOK OF ROMAN, 13th
10:19:47 CHAPTER, BOOK OF ROMANS.
10:19:48 [AUDIO DROP]
10:20:12 [ENCODER DROP]
10:20:16 I GOT SOMETHING HERE.
10:20:18 FROM MY FLYER.
10:20:21 THE PEOPLE OF COLOR CANNOT WIN THE RESPECT OF THE OPPRESSOR
10:20:26 OR THE -- INCREASE THE OPPRESSOR ARROGANCE AND CONTEMPT.
10:20:33 INTERPRETED AS PROOF OF PEOPLE OF COLOR AS INFERIOR.
10:20:39 THE PEOPLE OF COLOR CANNOT WIN THE RESPECT OF THE WHITE
10:20:43 PEOPLE OF THE SOUTH, PEOPLE OF THE WORLD.
10:20:47 IF HE IS WILLING TO SELL THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN FOR
10:20:52 PERSONAL AND IMMEDIATE COMFORT AND GAIN.
10:20:56 CHANGES IN THE STATUS QUO DEPENDS ON THE CONTINUED ACTION --
10:21:05 OF A NATION AND STATUS IN WHICH EVEN THE MOST RACIST ELEMENT
10:21:15 FAILS TO ADMIT THAT CHANGE IS NECESSARY.
10:21:18 DERELICT ACTION IS NOT SUBJECT TO WORK IN THE COURT AND HALL
10:21:25 OF GOVERNMENT.
10:21:26 BRING ABOUT CHANGES FOR OUR NEW AND BROAD LAW BY CITY
10:21:31 COUNCIL.
10:21:31 BEFORE THE COURT OF THE LAND.
10:21:40 DO NOT ELIMINATE THE NECESSITY FOR BRINGING ABOUT THE
10:21:44 MASSIVE DESTRUCTION OF JUSTICE IN THE FRONT OF THE CITY
10:21:48 HALL.
10:21:48 CATHOLIC CHURCH, THERE IS NO ONE TEACHER AND THE TEACHER OF
10:21:54 JESUS CHRIST.
10:21:55 NO ONE IS GREATER, GREATER THAN HIS MASTER.
10:22:00 THE PREACHER AND TEACHER ARE NOTHING BUT SERVANTS OF THE
10:22:06 LORD.
10:22:06 EPISCOPAL PAUL, GOD THEREFORE.
10:22:14 FIRST OF ALL, SUBROGATION, PRAYER, ALL MEN CAME AND THAT
10:22:23 THERE ARE AUTHORITY THAT WE MAY LEAD QUIET AND PEACEFUL LIFE
10:22:28 IN GODNESS AND HONESTY.
10:22:30 I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO READ IT ALL.
10:22:33 I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT WE ARE BELIEVERS IN GOD.
10:22:37 WE GOT POWER TO TRY TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
10:22:41 BUT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT'S RIGHT.
10:22:44 THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:22:46 WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD IS NOTHING RIGHT ABOUT COMING
10:22:50 FROM GOD.
10:22:50 ONE THING ABOUT US, WE MUST SUBMIT OURSELVES TO ALMIGHTY
10:22:55 POWER AND AUTHORITY OF GOD ALMIGHTY.
10:22:58 I THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL, AND I WANT TO ASK THE CITY
10:23:01 COUNCIL, THE LAWYER OF CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE GET ME AN
10:23:05 INVITATION AND MEET WITH THE MAYOR.
10:23:11 MEET WITH THE MAYOR.
10:23:14 I'LL BE GLAD TO MEET WITH HER ONE ON ONE.
10:23:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:23:17 >> THANK YOU.
10:23:18 GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU ALL.
10:23:27 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:23:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
10:23:28 >> MY NAME IS BY SHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
10:23:31 I'M ONE OF THE HOSTS OF WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING ALONG WITH
10:23:35 KING CULVER FROM KING CULVER ENTERPRISES MR. JAY JOHNSON.
10:23:39 OUR RADIO PROGRAM COMES ON EVERY SATURDAY MORNING FROM
10:23:42 9 A.M. TO 10.
10:23:44 IT'S A PUBLIC -- LISTEN TO PUBLIC FORUM.
10:23:48 I DIDN'T COME TO SPEAK THIS MORNING, BUT WHEN I HEARD ABOUT
10:23:51 THE LACK OF INPUT ABOUT JOBS IN THE CITY, I JUST WANTED TO
10:23:57 SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MS. SHERISHA HILLS, THE PARKS DIRECTOR.
10:24:02 SHE WAS MY GUEST JUST THIS PAST SATURDAY.
10:24:05 SHE'S BEEN A GUEST TWICE.
10:24:07 SHE'S BEEN GETTING OUT THE WORD ABOUT THE JOB.
10:24:10 SHE'S BEEN TELLING NOT ONLY ABOUT THE JOBS BUT THE INCOME
10:24:14 THAT THERE ARE PART-TIME, THERE ARE PERMANENT JOBS.
10:24:17 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $15 AN HOUR JOBS.
10:24:20 SO THE PUBLIC IS BEING AWARE ON THAT FRONT THAT THERE ARE
10:24:26 JOBS BEING MADE AVAILABLE FOR THE YOUTH FOR THE SUMMER.
10:24:30 I AM GOING TO CALL MR. BENNETT AND LET HIM KNOW THAT WHAT'S
10:24:34 REALLY HAPPENING, WILL ACTUALLY BE GLAD TO SERVE AS A VENUE
10:24:40 TO CONTINUE TO GET THE WORD OUT CONCERNING JOBS, WHETHER
10:24:44 THEY BE SUMMER OR PERMANENT JOBS.
10:24:46 I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD RISE UP BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT
10:24:50 ARE MAKING AN EFFORT TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY AS TO WHAT'S
10:24:55 GOING ON.
10:24:55 I WANT TO THANK MS. HILLS ONCE AGAIN OVER AT PARKS AND
10:24:59 RECREATION AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE INFORMED THE
10:25:02 COMMUNITY ABOUT, ABOUT BEING LIFEGUARDS.
10:25:05 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AFRICANS, HARDLY SWIM BUT IN MY HOME,
10:25:10 THERE WAS EIGHT OF US, WE WERE MADE TO LEARN HOW TO SWIM,
10:25:13 AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN -- THEY CAN TAKE THESE
10:25:17 CERTIFICATES AND THEY ACTUALLY CAN GO AND USE THEM OTHER
10:25:20 PLACES.
10:25:21 WE HOPE THEY STAY WITH THE CITY WHEN THEY GET THESE
10:25:24 CERTIFICATES, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATIVE INFORMATION
10:25:28 THAT SHE HAD TO GIVE TO THIS COMMUNITY, AND SHE CAME -- THE
10:25:34 PROGRAM IS A PREDOMINANT AFRICAN AMERICAN PROGRAM SO SHE
10:25:38 CAME TO ENLIGHTEN US, TO ENCOURAGE US, TO TAKE THESE JOBS,
10:25:42 TO BECOME INVOLVED IN THESE JOBS.
10:25:44 AND THESE JOBS, SOME EVEN HAVE APPRENTICESHIP WHERE YOU CAN
10:25:47 GO FORWARD.
10:25:48 THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT I LEARNED AND MY AUDIENCE
10:25:52 LEARNED FROM HER, AND SHE WILL BE COMING BACK AGAIN.
10:25:56 AND WE EXTEND THAT INFORMATION TO ALL OF YOU COUNCIL
10:25:59 MEMBERS.
10:25:59 IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO CONVEY TO THE
10:26:02 COMMUNITY, WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING THAT COMES ON EVERY
10:26:05 SATURDAY MORNING AT 9 A.M., AND I THANK THOSE OF YOU WHO
10:26:09 HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CITRO,
10:26:12 MANISCALCO, COUNCILMAN VIERA, I'M STILL WAITING ON MR.
10:26:16 MIRANDA, BUT THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IT,
10:26:19 YOU ALWAYS BROUGHT SOME SUBSTANCE TO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE
10:26:24 SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:26:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:26:26 AND I WILL SECOND YOUR MOTION ON MS. SHERISHA HILLS BEING AN
10:26:31 AMAZING, AN AMAZING WOMAN AS DEPARTMENT HEAD OF PARKS AND
10:26:33 RECREATION.
10:26:34 >> THANK YOU.
10:26:41 >> JOE ROBINSON.
10:26:43 WHEN I COME DOWN LIKE THIS, THERE IS A LOT GOING ON.
10:26:46 GETTING BACK IN THE INVESTIGATIVE MODE.
10:26:50 FEDS DOWN HERE.
10:26:51 FIRST OF ALL, CINCO DE MAYO!
10:26:52 CONGRATULATIONS, JOE CITRO FOR CHAIR.
10:26:56 CONGRATULATIONS, GUIDO.
10:26:57 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR BACKUP QUARTERBACK, BUT YOU'VE GOT
10:27:02 TOMORROW'S QUALITIES.
10:27:03 YOU ARE A GOOD BACKUP QUARTERBACK.
10:27:04 LET'S NOT WORRY ABOUT THAT.
10:27:07 LET'S GET DOWN TO THE RIGMAROLE.
10:27:09 I CAN STAY HERE FOR ANOTHER 15 MINUTES AND TALK ON ITEMS 39,
10:27:11 40, 41, AND 47 BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:27:16 BUT I AM GOING TO SPARE YOU ON THAT BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE
10:27:17 MAKING ME MISS MY ELECTRICIAN AT MY HOUSE RIGHT NOW.
10:27:20 I WANT TO SAY THIS, THOSE ARE WEST TAMPA ISSUES.
10:27:23 ONE OF THEM IS EASEMENT VACATION.
10:27:26 LET'S DO IT.
10:27:28 REZONING.
10:27:28 SOL FLEISCHMAN -- I SEE HIM BACK THERE.
10:27:31 IF HE'S DOING SOMETHING, IT'S ALL GOOD.
10:27:31 -- MAKE IT HAPPEN, BUILDING, LOCAL LANDMARK, I DON'T HAVE
10:27:36 ANY OBJECTION.
10:27:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
10:27:39 >> HAVE I BEEN SWORN IN?
10:27:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THINGS SET FOR PUBLIC
10:27:43 HEARINGS?
10:27:43 >> I'M ROLLING IT ALL IN BECAUSE I MAY NOT BE HERE.
10:27:46 IF YOU WANT ME TO STAY HERE, FIVE MINUTES ON THIS -- MY TIME
10:27:54 NOW.
10:27:54 LISTEN, I'M JUST MAKING A STATEMENT.
10:27:56 NOT SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO THEM.
10:28:00 I'M FOR IT BECAUSE IT IS WEST TAMPA.
10:28:02 LET'S MOVE ON.
10:28:04 NO, I'M NOT SPEAKING ABOUT THEM.
10:28:05 I JUST MENTIONED THEM.
10:28:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST REMEMBER, PLEASE, QUASI-JUDICIAL
10:28:09 PROCEEDINGS.
10:28:10 >> I UNDERSTAND.
10:28:11 I UNDERSTAND THE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
10:28:12 NOW, BACK TO THE CRB BOARD, SAID IT WAS 241 COMPLAINTS.
10:28:20 HOW MANY VALIDATED?
10:28:20 I DIDN'T SEE THAT NUMBER.
10:28:23 241 COMPLAINTS, BUT THEY WERE NOT VALIDATED.
10:28:28 WHAT THAT MEAN?
10:28:29 ARE THEY VALID OR NOT?
10:28:30 COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
10:28:32 I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE IN WEST TAMPA, MS. LAWYER.
10:28:36 NOW, BOTTOM LINE, I WAS UP HERE PUSHING HANNA AVENUE, BUT
10:28:41 I'M TESTING THEM.
10:28:44 WE TEST STUFF.
10:28:45 ALREADY TESTING THE CITY WITH HOUSING.
10:28:47 THE FBI WILL BE HERE REAL SOON.
10:28:49 I'M TRYING TO HOLD THEM BACK, BUT KEEP RUNNING YOUR MOUTH
10:28:53 AND KEEP DOING NONSENSE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE SOME SERIOUS
10:28:56 INVESTIGATION, NOT THIS HERE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
10:29:00 THAT'S A SLAP ON THE WRIST.
10:29:02 I'M TALKING ABOUT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
10:29:05 LISTEN, HANNA AVENUE, HERE'S THE PROBLEM.
10:29:09 WE SENT IN A REQUEST TO PROVIDE SERVICES.
10:29:12 MY FIRM.
10:29:13 I DO THIS FOR A LIVING.
10:29:16 NO RESPONSE.
10:29:17 NOW, WE'RE CERTIFIED BLACK-OWNED BUSINESS, PROVIDING
10:29:22 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
10:29:23 AND THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE DIGNITY TO RESPOND TO THE
10:29:28 E-MAIL AND TOLD ME ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
10:29:30 NOW, I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY THAT GAME.
10:29:32 I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY THAT GAME ON HANNA.
10:29:35 I WAITED UNTIL THE END.
10:29:37 IF YOU ALL WANT TO PLAY HARD BALL, WE'LL PLAY HARD BALL.
10:29:41 FIND OUT WHY WHITE WOMEN ARE GETTING MOST OF THE CONTRACTS
10:29:44 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THEY ARE OVERUTILIZED.
10:29:46 WE'LL FIND OUT WHY BLACK CONTRACTORS ARE NOT GETTING ANY
10:29:50 OPPORTUNITIES AND THEY ARE UNDER DISPARATE IMPACT.
10:29:52 ASK FOR A DISPARITY STUDY TO BE DONE AND WE'RE GOING TO
10:29:56 CLEAN UP A LOT OF THIS PUBLIC CORRUPTION.
10:29:59 I'LL GO BACK AND WALK HOME BECAUSE I WALKED DOWN.
10:30:02 I WASN'T EVEN GOING TO SPEAK.
10:30:03 I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY THOSE GAMES.
10:30:05 YOU BETTER TELL HANNA AND THE ADMINISTRATION TO GET ON THE
10:30:08 BALL AND RESPOND TO BLACK FOLKS WHEN WE ASK THEM FOR
10:30:11 OPPORTUNITIES ON A PROJECT THAT IS A HUNDRED MILLION
10:30:13 DOLLARS.
10:30:14 I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.
10:30:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS HERE IN
10:30:26 OUR CHAMBERS?
10:30:26 IF NOT, WE WILL GO INTO THOSE THAT ARE ON THE INTERNET.
10:30:32 WE HAVE MR. RANDOLPH.
10:30:35 ARE YOU WITH US, MR. RANDOLPH?
10:30:46 >> YES.
10:30:47 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:30:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
10:30:49 >> OKAY.
10:30:50 GOOD.
10:30:50 MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:30:52 I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
10:30:55 CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW APPOINTED CHAIRPERSONS.
10:30:57 I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT AN UPDATE ON THE HOME AND
10:31:04 E-COMMERCE BUSINESS INITIATIVE.
10:31:06 IT IS A NATIONAL INITIATIVE NOW FOR PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE
10:31:09 COUNTRY.
10:31:09 IT'S LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE DOING IN WEST TAMPA.
10:31:12 THIS IS AN UPDATE.
10:31:13 WE COMMITTED TO 120 NEW BUSINESSES STARTED WITHIN FIVE
10:31:17 YEARS.
10:31:21 WE PLAN TO START WORKING WITH BUSINESSES IN WEST TAMPA TO
10:31:23 GET STARTED.
10:31:24 HERE IS THE BREAKDOWN.
10:31:25 FOR THE FIRST YEAR, BRINGING IN 15 BUSINESSES.
10:31:29 YEAR TWO, IT WILL BE 25.
10:31:31 YEAR 3 IS 35.
10:31:33 YEAR 4 IS 40, AND YEAR 5 IS 5.
10:31:37 THAT'S A TOTAL OF 100 NEW BUSINESSES STARTED IN WEST TAMPA.
10:31:40 SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE STRUGGLING IN
10:31:44 PAYING THE RENT, YOU CAN DO A SIDE HUSTLE BY CREATING YOUR
10:31:48 OWN HOME-BASED BUSINESS TO ADD IN MONEY SO YOU CAN PAY THOSE
10:31:52 BILLS.
10:31:52 WE ALSO MADE A COMMITMENT OF $80 MILLION.
10:31:56 WHEN WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE'RE STRATEGIC.
10:31:59 WE ALREADY KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.
10:32:01 FOR THE FIRST 800,000 COMING FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
10:32:07 FUNDS, WHICH IS $800,000.
10:32:09 THIS MONEY IS GOING TO BE USED TO BUY A BUILDING TO DO AN
10:32:14 E-COMMERCE CENTER AS WELL AS TO PROVIDE MONEY FOR MICROLOANS
10:32:20 FOR BUSINESSES.
10:32:20 THE NEXT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S COMING FROM HEALTH AND HUMAN
10:32:24 SERVICE AND HUD, THAT'S GOING TO BE $15 MILLION.
10:32:28 THEN THE NEXT POT OF MONEY IS COMING FROM THE CRA.
10:32:32 WE'RE MEETING TODAY OR THIS WEEK WITH THE OFFICE OF COURTESY
10:32:37 AND CONTROL ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
10:32:38 AS YOU KNOW, THEY CONTROL THE CRA.
10:32:40 THEY TALK ABOUT OUR STRATEGY AND BRING IN THE FEDERAL
10:32:43 GOVERNMENT WITH FEDERAL MONEY.
10:32:44 AND THEN FINALLY, THE LAST REMAINING MONEY IS COMING FROM --
10:32:50 RIGHT NOW THAT'S OVER 110 FOUNDATIONS THAT GIVE MONEY ALL
10:32:54 OVER THE COUNTRY.
10:32:55 WE PLAN TO TRAIN TEN RESIDENTS IN WEST TAMPA ON HOW TO WRITE
10:33:01 A GRANT.
10:33:02 NEXT, THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED
10:33:06 BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
10:33:07 PLEASE, USE IT TO REDUCE GENTRIFICATION AND INCREASE
10:33:13 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:33:14 I KNOW I'M PRONOUNCING THE NAME WRONG, EXCUSE ME FOR
10:33:20 PRONOUNCING THE NAME WRONG, SHE SHOW WHAT CAN BE DONE.
10:33:23 SHE SHOW THE HOUSING CRISIS IN WEST TAMPA.
10:33:26 SHE PARTNERED WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC, PARTNERED WITH
10:33:29 DEVELOPERS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE GENTRIFICATION AFFORDABLE
10:33:33 HOUSING IS SOMETHING THAT'S AFFORDABLE TO EVERYBODY.
10:33:35 CAME ONE EMPLOYMENT CENTER IN WHICH DEVELOPERS AGREED TO
10:33:41 BUILD AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER IN ORDER TO HELP PEOPLE TO GET
10:33:46 JOBS TO STAY IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:33:48 THE OTHER PARTNER THERE WITH $650,000 GOING TOWARDS
10:33:53 AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO PEOPLE COULD AFFORD TO PAY CLOSING
10:33:58 COSTS.
10:34:00 THIS IS THE FORMULA YOU SHOULD USE WITH THE COMMUNITY
10:34:03 BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
10:34:04 IT SHOULD BE USED TO DEAL WITH GENTRIFICATION AND, B, DEAL
10:34:09 WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:34:10 I KNOW COSTS ARE PRETTY AND OTHER THINGS ARE PRETTY, WE'RE
10:34:14 IN A HOUSING CRISIS NOW.
10:34:16 THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IS LOOKING AT NEW MONEY BY
10:34:20 PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR.
10:34:23 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:34:23 CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW BOARD, THE NEW MEMBERS.
10:34:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
10:34:28 IS MS. BENNETT THERE?
10:34:35 >>THE CLERK: CARROLL ANN BENNETT, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE,
10:34:38 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:34:39 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:34:40 MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
10:34:42 I AM A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
10:34:44 THE NEW OPINION BY THE STATE ETHICS COMMITTEE MAKES IT
10:34:47 IMPOSSIBLE FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO WORK IN ANYTHING RELATED
10:34:50 TO REAL ESTATE OR CONSTRUCTION OR LAND USE.
10:34:54 THOSE RESTRICTIONS ELIMINATE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM RUNNING
10:34:57 FOR CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO WORK ONLY AS
10:35:02 A COUNCIL MEMBER, BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER'S JOB IS
10:35:06 FULL-TIME WORK FOR PART-TIME PAY.
10:35:08 THAT MUST CHANGE.
10:35:09 IT IS TIME TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE JOB OF CITY COUNCIL IS NOT
10:35:13 THE SAME AS IT WAS 30 YEARS AGO.
10:35:15 THE POPULATION AND THE WORKLOAD IS NOT THE SAME AS IT WAS 30
10:35:20 YEARS AGO.
10:35:21 THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY WANT AN INDEPENDENT CITY COUNCIL
10:35:25 THAT IS PART OF A SYSTEM OF CHECKS AND BALANCES.
10:35:29 I WOULD NEVER WANT YOUR JOB, EVEN IF IT WERE FULL-TIME AND
10:35:33 PAID TWICE AS MUCH.
10:35:35 YOU'D HAVE TO PAY OFF THE STUDENT LOANS OF MY SON AND NIECES
10:35:38 TO GET ME TO TAKE THAT JOB.
10:35:40 BELIEVE ME, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY.
10:35:43 THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY WANT COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO CAN GIVE
10:35:47 US YOUR FULL ATTENTION AND HAVE THE TIME AND FREEDOM TO
10:35:50 TREAT US AND THE CITY LIKE THE FULL-TIME JOB IT IS.
10:35:53 IF SOMEONE WITH DEEP POCKETS AND FINANCIAL MOTIVES THREATENS
10:35:57 OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS BECAUSE THEY DID THEIR JOB, BECAUSE
10:36:00 THEY LISTENED TO THE CITIZENS, BECAUSE THEY REPRESENTED US,
10:36:05 IF PRO CITIZEN, PRO NEIGHBORHOOD, PRO SAFETY COUNCIL MEMBERS
10:36:09 ARE ATTACKED FOR DOING THE JOB THEY WERE ELECTED TO DO, THE
10:36:13 CITIZENS WANT THE CITY TO DEFEND THAT PERSON BECAUSE IN
10:36:15 REALITY, THE CITY IS DEFENDING US AND THE CITIZEN'S RIGHT TO
10:36:20 A VOICE AND THE CITIZEN'S RIGHT TO A VOTE AND THE CITIZEN'S
10:36:24 RIGHT TO A SEAT AT THE TABLE.
10:36:25 IF THE CITY DOESN'T DEFEND AND PROTECT CITY COUNCIL, WHO
10:36:28 WILL RUN FOR THESE POSITIONS?
10:36:30 WE ALL KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
10:36:33 IT WILL BE YES-MEN AND YES-WOMEN WHO WILL DO AS THEY ARE
10:36:36 TOLD BY THE RICH AND THE POWERFUL.
10:36:39 IT WILL BE THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T AFRAID OF BEING SUED
10:36:42 BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MOUTHPIECES OF THE PEOPLE DOING THE
10:36:44 SUING.
10:36:46 INDEPENDENT, COURAGEOUS MEN AND WOMEN WHO CARE ABOUT WHAT'S
10:36:50 BEST FOR TAMPA CITIZENS WILL NOT RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL
10:36:52 BECAUSE THEY CAN'T RISK FINANCIAL RUIN FROM LAWSUITS.
10:36:55 WE WANT OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO FEEL SAFE TO VOTE THE WAY
10:36:58 THEIR CONSCIENCE AND THEIR CONSTITUENTS WANT THEM TO VOTE
10:37:02 WITHOUT FEAR OF FINANCIALLY DEVASTATING LAWSUITS.
10:37:04 SO WHEN YOU GET TO ITEMS NUMBER 64 AND 65, PLEASE TAKE
10:37:08 ACTION TO PROTECT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
10:37:11 TAKE ACTION TO PROTECT THE VOICES OF THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
10:37:16 THANK YOU.
10:37:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. BENNETT.
10:37:18 MS. POYNOR, ARE YOU WITH US?
10:37:25 >>THE CLERK: STEPHANIE POYNOR, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE,
10:37:27 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:37:28 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:37:30 >> YES, GOOD MORNING.
10:37:31 NUMBER 64 AND 65, YOU KNOW, DURING QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS,
10:37:36 I HAVE HEARD REPEATEDLY, MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES, THAT PEOPLE
10:37:40 WHO ARE SITTING IN THE SEATS ON THE DAIS BE CONCERNED ABOUT
10:37:45 GETTING SUED FOR MAKING THE WRONG DECISIONS.
10:37:52 IT VERY MUCH DISCONCERTS ME THAT THEY NOT ONLY ARE BEING
10:37:58 SUED FOR THOSE DECISIONS, BUT THE DECISIONS THAT THEY MAKE
10:38:02 IN ANY PROSPECT THAT THEY DO OFF CITY COUNCIL.
10:38:06 NUMBER 64 AND 65 ABSOLUTELY NEED TO BE PASSED THIS MORNING.
10:38:10 YOU GUYS NEED THE STAFF TO DO THE JOBS.
10:38:14 WE HAD A BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING YESTERDAY.
10:38:16 WE HAVE NO SECRETARY TO TAKE THE MINUTES FOR THE BUDGET
10:38:19 COMMITTEE MEETING.
10:38:19 IT SHOULD NOT BE PUT ON THE 8 STAFF MEMBERS THAT YOU
10:38:25 CURRENTLY HAVE.
10:38:26 YOU GUYS NEED THE ADDITIONAL STAFF.
10:38:29 ONCE AGAIN, I SHOWED YOU GUYS THE NUMBERS LAST WEEK, OUR
10:38:33 POPULATION IS UP BY 25 TO 30%.
10:38:38 THE CITY BUDGET IS UP BY 275 PERCENT, BUT YET CITY COUNCIL
10:38:45 IS STILL RUNNING WITH THEIR 2000 TOYOTA CAMRY.
10:38:49 I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:38:54 I WAS FLABBERGASTED THAT THE CRB HAD NO KNOWLEDGE THAT THE
10:38:58 DOJ IS INVESTIGATING IN OUR CITY.
10:39:02 THAT FLOORS ME.
10:39:04 WHAT ABOUT TRANSPARENCY?
10:39:07 TRANSPARENCY, TRANSPARENCY, TRANSPARENCY, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE
10:39:11 WE'RE ONLY TRANSPARENT ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.
10:39:14 I'M VERY DISGUSTED AT THE FACT THAT WE SAT IN FRONT OF THE
10:39:18 ETHICS COMMITTEE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND THEY SAID THEY
10:39:21 HADN'T HAD AN ETHICS COMPLAINT IN FOUR YEARS, YET THEY SPENT
10:39:25 $100,000 INVESTIGATING COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:39:28 YET, THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SPENDING MORE OF OUR CIVIL
10:39:33 DOLLARS, OUR TAX DOLLARS, NOT THEIR MONEY OUT OF THEIR OWN
10:39:36 POCKET, BUT THEY ARE INVESTIGATING COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:39:40 SO HOW MANY TIMES DO THESE GUYS GET TO SPEND SIX FIGURES
10:39:44 THAT WE COULD BE FURNISHING FOR AFFORDABLE?
10:39:48 WE COULD BE BUILDING SIDEWALKS, BUT YET WE'RE PLAYING GAMES
10:39:52 WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES.
10:39:54 PLEASE STAND UP FOR YOURSELVES.
10:39:56 PLEASE GIVE YOURSELVES A BIGGER STAFF WHEN YOU DO THIS
10:40:01 CHARTER REVIEW.
10:40:02 I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK FOR OUR CITY.
10:40:06 BUT IT'S TIME TO ASK FOR WHAT OUR CITIZENS DESERVE, WHICH IS
10:40:11 A STAND-ALONE CITY COUNCIL THAT CAN DO ITS JOB.
10:40:16 THANK YOU.
10:40:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:40:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:40:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:40:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. POYNOR MADE A POINT.
10:40:23 IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT UNDER NEW BUSINESS THE BUDGET
10:40:29 COMMITTEE, THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED.
10:40:30 I'M GETTING SEVERAL COMPLAINTS.
10:40:33 YOU HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE APPOINTED PEOPLE AT TIMES
10:40:36 ARE NOT SHOWING AT THE MEETINGS.
10:40:38 I KNOW THERE ARE SOME ISSUES GOING ON.
10:40:42 SUPPOSED TO BE UNDER THE SUNSHINE, MY UNDERSTANDING.
10:40:44 IT'S NOT BEEN THAT WAY SINCE ITS INCEPTION.
10:40:47 WITH THE NEW CHAIRMAN, GET NEW CHAIRMAN AND NOW GET SOME
10:40:51 GUIDELINES IN PLACE SO THE BOARD CAN OPERATE THE WAY IT'S
10:40:55 SUPPOSED TO BE OPERATING FOR THIS BUSINESS.
10:40:59 DEALING WITH THAT UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
10:41:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. STROHMEYER.
10:41:02 MS. STROHMEYER, ARE YOU WITH US?
10:41:07 >>THE CLERK: IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, COULD YOU PLEASE UNMUTE
10:41:09 YOURSELF?
10:41:10 >> THANK YOU.
10:41:10 HELLO, YOU ALL.
10:41:11 HOW ARE YOU?
10:41:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
10:41:14 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:41:15 MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER.
10:41:16 I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF TAMPA SINCE 1970.
10:41:20 I GREW UP IN TOWN N' COUNTRY WITH A VERY LARGE FAMILY AND WE
10:41:25 WERE PRETTY DIRT POOR, BUT WE WERE TAUGHT TO WORK HARD.
10:41:29 WE WERE TAUGHT ETHICS.
10:41:31 WE WERE TAUGHT GOOD MORAL TEACHINGS.
10:41:36 SO EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I CAN
10:41:45 TELL YOU THAT WHEN I WAS 15 YEARS OLD, I LIVED ON MY OWN.
10:41:49 I MOVED OUT OF MY PARENTS' HOUSE AND I GOT MY FIRST
10:41:53 APARTMENT.
10:41:53 MY FIRST RENT CHECK, MY FIRST PAYCHECK WENT TO RENT.
10:41:57 MY SECOND PAYCHECK WENT TO ELECTRICITY AND PHONE.
10:42:01 I DID NOT GO OUT BUT ONCE A WEEK -- OR ONCE EVERY PAYCHECK,
10:42:06 THAT WAS MY GIFT TO MYSELF TO GO OUT TO DINNER.
10:42:09 I DIDN'T ASK ANYBODY TO GIVE ME ANYTHING.
10:42:12 I DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING FROM ANY GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.
10:42:14 I JUST LIVED WITHIN MY MEANS.
10:42:16 I MADE $3.35 AN HOUR I BELIEVE AT THE TIME.
10:42:21 I ALSO WORKED FULL-TIME AND PAID FOR MY OWN COLLEGE AND I
10:42:26 ALSO WORKED FULL-TIME TO GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL FROM LETO IN
10:42:30 1986.
10:42:31 I WORK HARD, AND I BELIEVE WORK ETHIC IS KEY TO TEACHING OUR
10:42:36 YOUNG PEOPLE WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO BE.
10:42:40 WE SPENT THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT, MY ENTIRE FAMILY, ALL
10:42:44 EIGHT OF US, WE SPENT OUR SUMMERS AT THE PARKS AND RECS.
10:42:48 WE PLAYED BOX HOCKEY.
10:42:49 WE PLAYED SOCCER.
10:42:51 WE PLAYED ON THE MONKEY BARS, PLAYED CHECKERS, AND WE
10:42:55 LEARNED HOW TO PLAY WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND HOW TO BE HONEST
10:42:58 AND LOSE GRACEFULLY.
10:43:01 WE DIDN'T ACCUSE SOMEBODY BECAUSE WE LOST.
10:43:03 JUST SAYING, PARKS AND REC IS IMPORTANT AND I THINK THAT
10:43:06 NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT BACK, ESPECIALLY NATURE'S CLASSROOM,
10:43:10 WHICH WAS ALWAYS A TREAT IN THE PARKS SYSTEM.
10:43:12 I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL DO THAT.
10:43:14 THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA, I TOO AM FLABBERGASTED ABOUT THIS
10:43:20 FBI INVESTIGATION INTO OUR CITY.
10:43:25 I AM JUST SHOCKED AND THAT IS NOT TRANSPARENT THAT YOU ALL
10:43:29 KNEW ABOUT THAT -- NOT YOU ALL, BUT THE ADMINISTRATION KNEW
10:43:31 ABOUT THAT AND WE THE PEOPLE DID NOT.
10:43:34 AND THERE SHOULD BE MORE OF THOSE INVESTIGATIONS.
10:43:39 LET'S SEE, THE JOBS, I SUGGEST YOUNG PEOPLE CAN BE -- THEY
10:43:43 -- IF THEY DON'T WANT COLLEGE, COLLEGE PAID FOR MY OWN, BUT
10:43:48 IT'S NOT FOR EVERYBODY.
10:43:49 I WAS PRETTY BORED.
10:43:51 BUT WE COULD SHIP YOUNG KIDS INTO OFFICE JOBS, FILING.
10:43:56 THAT IS A GREAT START.
10:43:57 AT ANY LAW FIRM OR ANY INSURANCE COMPANY, YOU MAKE VERY GOOD
10:44:01 MONEY.
10:44:01 YOU GET BENEFITS AND YOU GET PAID AND THEN YOU CAN GO TO
10:44:06 COLLEGE IF YOU WANT TO WHILE YOU MAKE A PAYCHECK.
10:44:09 THAT'S WHAT I DID AND I HAVE MY OWN BUSINESS.
10:44:11 I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT ANYTHING FROM THE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE
10:44:14 THE GOVERNMENT GIVETH AND THE GOVERNMENT TAKETH AWAY.
10:44:17 YOU SHALL NOT EAT BUT BY THE SWEAT OF YOUR BROW.
10:44:21 THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS AND THAT'S WHAT WE LIVE BY IN MY
10:44:24 FAMILY.
10:44:24 DINGFELDER THING IS STILL A SHAM.
10:44:26 I DO BELIEVE THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO BY THE SAME FBI
10:44:30 THAT'S LOOKING INTO THE OTHER CORRUPTION IN OUR CITY.
10:44:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:44:38 >> THANKS.
10:44:39 BYE.
10:44:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. SULING, I'M SORRY, YOU HANDED ME A NOTE.
10:44:47 >>THE CLERK: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:44:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DID I HEAR MR. MECHANIK?
10:44:55 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON ITEM 32?
10:45:09 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM HERE.
10:45:11 I'M JUST HEAR TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.
10:45:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR, MR.
10:45:26 MECHANIK.
10:45:26 WILL YOU BE AVAILABLE IF ANY QUESTIONS DO ARISE?
10:45:37 >> YES, SIR.
10:45:37 I AM HERE.
10:45:39 THANK YOU.
10:45:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU KNOW IF THAT INCLUDES MR. GARCIA AND
10:45:43 MR. SCHULLER?
10:45:43 THAT IS HERE.
10:45:47 >> YES, THEY ARE BOTH HERE.
10:45:49 YES.
10:45:49 THEY ARE VIRTUALLY HERE.
10:45:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU KNOW IF MR. GARCIA OR MR. SCHULLER
10:45:57 WANTS TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS?
10:46:05 >> I DON'T BELIEVE, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:46:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
10:46:08 LET'S GO TO THEM JUST TO MAKE SURE.
10:46:11 MR. GARCIA, ARE YOU THERE?
10:46:19 >>THE CLERK: MR. GARCIA, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:46:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SCHULLER, ARE YOU THERE?
10:46:33 >> YES, I'M HERE.
10:46:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TO
10:46:36 ITEM NUMBER 32 NOW?
10:46:39 >> NO, SIR, THANK YOU.
10:46:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:46:40 AGAIN, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE IN
10:46:42 CHAMBERS THAT WANTS TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:46:45 THAT'S ALL WE HAVE VIRTUALLY.
10:46:51 THANK YOU.
10:46:52 LET'S GO TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS.
10:46:54 PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:46:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOLD ON, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:47:02 MOVE ITEMS 6 AND 7.
10:47:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:47:06 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:47:09 ROLL CALL.
10:47:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:47:15 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:47:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:47:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:47:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:47:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:47:20 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
10:47:23 ABSENT.
10:47:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:23 COUNCILMAN GUDES, PARKS, RECREATION AND CULTURAL COMMITTEE.
10:47:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 8.
10:47:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:47:30 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:47:31 ROLL CALL.
10:47:35 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:47:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:47:37 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:47:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:47:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:47:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:47:41 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
10:47:44 ABSENT.
10:47:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:45 PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:47:47 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 9 THROUGH 20,
10:47:50 PLEASE.
10:47:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:47:53 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:47:55 ROLL CALL.
10:47:56 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:47:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:47:58 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:47:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:48:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:48:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:48:04 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
10:48:07 ABSENT.
10:48:09 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON NUMBER 23
10:48:11 SEPARATELY, PLEASE.
10:48:12 WHEN THIS CONTRACT CAME UP A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I WAS NOT
10:48:18 REALLY IN FAVOR, TRY TO BE A TEAM PLAYER, I VOTED FOR IT FOR
10:48:22 THE ADMINISTRATION AND I SINCE REGRET THAT DECISION BECAUSE
10:48:24 THE WAY THE PROCESS WAS HANDLED, SO I'M GOING TO VOTE
10:48:27 AGAINST ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS RELATED TO THIS CONTRACT OR
10:48:30 RENEWALS.
10:48:30 THANK YOU.
10:48:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA --
10:48:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL HOLD 23 FOR DISCUSSION FURTHER.
10:48:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU'LL BE DOING --
10:48:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 21, 22, AND 24, 25, 26.
10:48:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:48:48 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:48:50 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:48:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:48:54 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:48:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:48:55 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:48:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:48:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:49:01 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
10:49:04 ABSENT.
10:49:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:49:07 23.
10:49:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WANT TO DISCUSS IT, WE'LL DISCUSS IT.
10:49:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
10:49:13 DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER 23?
10:49:14 >>BILL CARLSON: NO, I SAID EVERYTHING.
10:49:15 I WANT TO VOTE SEPARATELY.
10:49:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE RESOLUTION 23.
10:49:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:49:20 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:49:22 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:49:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:49:24 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
10:49:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:49:29 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:49:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:49:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:49:32 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO AND
10:49:34 HURTAK BEING ABSENT.
10:49:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CARLSON, BUILDING, ZONING AND
10:49:38 PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.
10:49:41 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT REAL FAST?
10:49:44 ON ITEM NUMBER 33, APPRECIATE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS
10:49:48 WORKING WITH THE TAMPA THEATRE.
10:49:49 YOU ALL MAY REMEMBER ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO, THE LAST MAYOR
10:49:53 VICIOUSLY ATTACKED TAMPA THEATRE AND ALMOST DESTROYED THE
10:49:57 ORGANIZATION.
10:49:57 I HOPE THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION WILL WORK WITH THE TAMPA
10:50:01 THEATRE TO TRY TO PROTECT IN THE FUTURE.
10:50:04 WE MAY NOT ALWAYS HAVE A FRIENDLY COUNCIL OR FRIENDLY MAYOR
10:50:08 SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE TO PROTECT THIS IMPORTANT
10:50:10 INSTITUTION.
10:50:11 WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE 27 THROUGH 34, PLEASE.
10:50:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:50:16 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:50:18 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:50:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:50:21 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:50:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:50:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:50:26 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:50:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:50:30 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
10:50:32 ABSENT.
10:50:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:50:33 TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:50:37 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MOVE ITEM 35.
10:50:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:50:42 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:50:44 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:50:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:50:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:50:49 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:50:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:50:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:50:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:50:56 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
10:50:58 ABSENT.
10:50:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:00 MOTION --
10:51:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO OPEN 36 THROUGH 55.
10:51:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:51:08 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:51:09 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:51:11 ANY OPPOSED?
10:51:11 THANK YOU.
10:51:14 LET'S TAKE OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, FILE NUMBER E2022-8 CH
10:51:27 27.
10:51:27 ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 36.
10:51:29 YES, I'M SORRY.
10:51:32 ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO BE GIVING ANY TESTIMONY TODAY DURING
10:51:34 THESE PROCEEDINGS, WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE TO BE SWORN IN?
10:51:38 AGAIN, ANYONE GIVING ANY TESTIMONY.
10:51:40 [OATH ADMINISTERED BY THE CLERK]
10:51:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:49 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:51:49 DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND HISTORIC
10:51:59 PRESERVATION MANAGER.
10:52:00 HERE THIS MORNING TO PROUDLY BRING YOU THE RECOMMENDATION OF
10:52:02 THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION TO INCREASE THE
10:52:04 INVENTORY OF HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED PROPERTIES IN OUR CITY.
10:52:08 I DO HAVE A PowerPoint TO ASSIST US.
10:52:11 THIS IS NUMBER 36, WHICH IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO ADD THE
10:52:16 STOVALL HOUSE AS A LOCAL LANDMARK TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:52:21 THE OWNER, STOVALL HOUSE, LLC, SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR
10:52:26 LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION IN MAY OF 2021.
10:52:28 THE APPLICATIONS, AS YOU KNOW FOR THESE PARTICULAR REQUESTS,
10:52:32 ARE REVIEWED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND THE
10:52:36 DETERMINATION OF ELIGIBILITY IS THEN BROUGHT TO YOU IN THE
10:52:39 FORM OF A RECOMMENDATION.
10:52:40 ELIGIBLE PROPERTIES MUST MEET THE CRITERIA SPECIFIED IN
10:52:45 27-257 WHICH I'LL REVIEW IN JUST A MOMENT.
10:52:49 LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION DOES MANY THINGS.
10:52:53 I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE LIST, BUT IT
10:52:55 CERTAINLY PRESERVES, PROMOTES AND IMPROVES THE HISTORIC
10:52:58 NATURE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND BRINGS VERY NECESSARY
10:53:02 ECONOMIC INCENTIVES TO THESE PROPERTIES.
10:53:05 THE PROPERTY BEFORE YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS ONE OF THE GRAND
10:53:10 ESTATE HOUSES OF THE EARLY 20th CENTURY.
10:53:13 AND THESE ARE AN ASSET THAT REALLY ARE QUICKLY DISAPPEARING
10:53:17 IN OUR CITY.
10:53:18 THE 1931 SANBORN MAP WITH THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IS LOCATED
10:53:27 ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, JUST TO THE SOUTH OF COACHMAN.
10:53:32 YOU SEE ON THE AERIAL MAP A MORE CONTEMPORARY VERSION OF THE
10:53:36 SITE AS IT'S BEEN BUILT OUT.
10:53:40 IT WAS ORIGINALLY SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AND NOW SERVES AS A
10:53:43 PRIVATE CLUB.
10:53:44 INTERESTING, IF YOU GO BACK ONE DECADE PRIOR, THE PROPERTY
10:53:49 ACTUALLY EXTENDED FROM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD TO WHAT WOULD BE
10:53:52 KNOWN AS MacDILL AVENUE TODAY.
10:53:56 QUITE A LARGE PARCEL OF LAND BEFORE IT WAS PARCELED FOR
10:53:59 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
10:54:00 STOVALL HOUSE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1909.
10:54:04 IT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED AS THE HOME FOR LOGAN T. AND
10:54:08 FLORENCE M. TROUSDELL.
10:54:10 THEY ONLY OCCUPIED IT FOR A SHORT TIME.
10:54:13 THEN IT WAS PURCHASED AND COMPLETED BY WALLACE F. STOVALL.
10:54:18 HE RESIDED IN THE HOUSE FOR 30 YEARS JUST UNTIL THE
10:54:21 CONCLUSION OF WORLD WAR II.
10:54:23 IT WAS DESIGNED BY VERY RENOWNED TAMPA ARCHITECT NAMED
10:54:27 FRANCIS JAKE KENNARD.
10:54:30 MR. KENNARD ALSO DESIGNED THE FLORIDAN HOTEL AND CENTRO
10:54:35 ESPANOL DE YBOR CITY.
10:54:38 IT'S DESIGNED IN THE NEOCLASSIC STYLE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE
10:54:42 PROMINENT DESIGNS OF THAT ERA.
10:54:43 IT IS REALLY TYPIFIED BY THE DEFINED GABLED PORTICO AND THE
10:54:47 VERY LARGE CORINTHIAN COLUMNS ON THE ENTRY.
10:54:52 MR. STOVALL'S MOST RENOWNED ASSOCIATION WAS THAT HE FOUNDED
10:54:57 AND WAS A LONGTIME PUBLISHER FOR THE TAMPA TRIBUNE.
10:55:02 THIS IS THE MOST INTACT EXAMPLE OF THE IMPACT OF MR. STOVALL
10:55:06 ON THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT.
10:55:08 THERE ARE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT HAVE EITHER BEEN DEMOLISHED
10:55:11 OR ALTERED BEYOND RECOGNITION.
10:55:14 THE APPLICATION, AS I SAID, WAS SUBMITTED IN MAY OF 2021.
10:55:19 THE HPC'S RECOMMENDATION CAME ON JANUARY 11 OF THIS YEAR,
10:55:24 AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DETERMINATION OF
10:55:28 ELIGIBILITY WAS FEBRUARY 25th.
10:55:32 NOTICE HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY THE OWNER TO THE SURROUNDING
10:55:35 PROPERTY OWNERS AND REGISTERED ORGANIZATIONS AND THAT PROOF
10:55:39 OF NOTICE HAS BEEN SUBMITTED WITH THE CLERK.
10:55:42 UNDER 27-257, WHICH IS THE CRITERIA THAT THE HPC USES TO
10:55:49 DETERMINE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE, THE PROPERTY DID ACHIEVE
10:55:52 ITS SIGNIFICANCE DURING THE DEFINED PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE
10:55:56 OF 1909.
10:55:58 NORMALLY, THESE PROPERTIES HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 50 YEARS OLD.
10:56:01 THIS ONE IS WELL OVER A CENTURY.
10:56:03 SO, OBVIOUSLY, WOULD QUALIFY FOR ITS AGE.
10:56:06 ITS ASSOCIATION WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE SIGNIFICANT IN
10:56:09 THE CITY'S PAST, THAT OF WALLACE F. STOVALL, IS WELL
10:56:14 EXHIBITED.
10:56:14 THAT'S ALSO REFERRED TO AS THE CRITERION B UNDER THE
10:56:18 NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES WHICH SAYS PROPERTY IS
10:56:21 ALSO LISTED ON.
10:56:23 IT DOES EVOLVE -- INVOLVE A DISTINCTIVE CHARACTERISTIC AND
10:56:28 TYPE AND PERIOD OF CONSTRUCTION, WHICH REPRESENTS THE WORK
10:56:31 OF A MASTER AND POSSESSES HIGH ARTISTIC VALUE, OTHERWISE
10:56:36 REGARDED AS CRITERION C UNDER THE NATIONAL REGISTER.
10:56:40 SO THE MAIN CRITERIA THAT QUALIFY IT ARE BOTH ITS
10:56:44 ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND SIGNIFICANCE AS WELL AS ITS
10:56:49 RELATIONSHIP WITH MR. STOVALL.
10:56:51 I DID WANT TO SHOW A COUPLE OF PHOTOS OF THE INTERIOR.
10:56:55 AS YOU KNOW, THE PROTECTIVE ORDINANCES ONLY APPLY TO THE
10:56:58 EXTERIOR, BUT THIS IS REALLY AN EXCEPTIONAL PROPERTY.
10:57:02 SO I DID WANT TO JUST SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE PHOTOS OF
10:57:06 THE INTERIOR THAT WERE PROVIDED TO THE STAFF.
10:57:11 CAN YOU SEE THAT ON YOUR MONITOR?
10:57:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOT YET.
10:57:15 YES.
10:57:22 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: THIS IS ONE OF THE SEATING ROOMS THAT'S
10:57:26 OFF THE INTERIOR.
10:57:28 YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE DETAILS.
10:57:31 SOME OF THE DETAILS IN THIS ROOM.
10:57:37 AS THE ADAPTIVE REUSE, THERE HAD TO BE THE INTRODUCTION OF
10:57:41 THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, WHICH WAS DONE IN A VERY
10:57:44 SENSITIVE MANNER BECAUSE IT IS NOW FOR OCCUPANCY.
10:57:49 HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE STAIRWELL.
10:57:53 SOME OF THE DETAILING.
10:57:54 THE HOUSE DOES HAVE THE ORIGINAL WOOD WINDOWS.
10:57:57 THE PREVIOUS OWNER, MR. HARRY TROUSDELL DID RESTORE THOSE.
10:58:04 AND HERE IS A WONDERFUL SHOT OFF THE SECOND FLOOR BALCONY
10:58:09 LOOKING TOWARDS BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
10:58:12 BACK TO THE PowerPoint.
10:58:18 SO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION DID HOLD THE
10:58:28 RECOMMENDATION HEARING ON JANUARY 11 AND DID RECOMMEND TO
10:58:32 APPROVE THIS RECOMMENDATION.
10:58:33 THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I DID SAY, DID FIND IT CONSISTENT
10:58:36 WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THE STAFF DOES
10:58:40 RECOMMEND THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE LOCAL LANDMARK
10:58:43 DESIGNATION OF THE STOVALL HOUSE LOCATED AT 4621 BAYSHORE
10:58:47 BOULEVARD AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK BASED ON THE CRITERIA
10:58:51 THAT I REVIEWED UNDER 27-257.
10:58:56 WITH THAT, I KNOW THE OWNER AND SOME OF THE REPRESENTATIVES
10:59:00 FOR THE PROPERTY ARE HERE, IF THEY CARE TO ADD ANYTHING AS
10:59:03 WELL.
10:59:04 THANK YOU.
10:59:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:59:06 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION REAL FAST.
10:59:10 WOULD IT BE FAIR, ACCURATE TO SAY THAT THIS DESIGNATION
10:59:15 LIMITS THE RIGHTS OF THE OWNER RATHER THAN PROVIDING ANY NEW
10:59:19 RIGHTS OR ENTITLEMENTS?
10:59:20 BECAUSE NOW WITH THIS DESIGNATION, THEY WOULD BE LIMITED AS
10:59:23 TO WHAT THEY COULD DO WITH THE BUILDING.
10:59:25 IT DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY NEW RIGHTS OR ENTITLEMENTS, RIGHT?
10:59:28 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: WELL, HISTORIC DESIGNATIONS DON'T IMPACT
10:59:30 THE ZONING OR USE OF A PARTICULAR PROPERTY, JUST THE
10:59:34 AESTHETIC LAYOUT OF THE SITE.
10:59:36 BUT I THINK PERHAPS THE REPRESENTATIVE'S ATTORNEY CAN KIND
10:59:42 OF SPEAK TO THE HISTORY OF THIS, THAT THERE WAS CONCERN
10:59:45 ABOUT THE NEW USE PUT IN PLACE AND LOCAL HISTORIC
10:59:48 DESIGNATION WAS LOOKED AT ONE WAY AS A CHECK ON ENSURING
10:59:53 THAT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE DOESN'T OVERWHELM
10:59:56 THE HISTORIC NATURE OF IT.
10:59:57 >>BILL CARLSON: THE APPLICANT WILL SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES BUT
11:00:00 A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE BUY A BUILDING, THEY DON'T WANT
11:00:04 TO BE LIMITED AS TO WHAT THEY COULD DO WITH IT.
11:00:07 A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULDN'T PUT THIS KIND OF DESIGNATION ON A
11:00:12 BUILDING BECAUSE IT COULD LIMIT THEM.
11:00:14 IN THIS CASE, THEY ARE VOLUNTARILY DOING IT.
11:00:19 I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK.
11:00:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
11:00:25 ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
11:00:25 >> YES.
11:00:25 TRUETT GARDNER.
11:00:27 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
11:00:28 IT'S GREAT BEING BACK HERE IN PERSON AND GREAT SEEING EACH
11:00:32 OF YOU.
11:00:33 I WANT TO THANK DENNIS AND HIS STAFF FOR ALL THE DILIGENCE
11:00:36 AND WORK THEY HAVE DONE.
11:00:37 WITH ME ARE SOL FLEISCHMAN, RENOWNED LOCAL ARCHITECT AND
11:00:41 PROJECT ARCHITECT OF THE STOVALL HOUSE AND ALSO BLAKE
11:00:44 CASPER, THE VISIONARY AND DEVELOPER BEHIND THIS.
11:00:47 AND WE ARE HERE TODAY TO MAKE GOOD ON A PROMISE THAT WAS
11:00:51 MADE FOUR YEARS AGO AS A PART OF OUR REZONING.
11:00:54 THIS PROJECT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT PRESERVING THE STOVALL HOUSE,
11:00:59 AND WE'RE HERE TODAY TO VOLUNTARILY ALLOW IT TO BE
11:01:02 DESIGNATED AS A LOCAL LANDMARK.
11:01:04 MR. CARLSON, TO YOUR QUESTION, WHAT THIS DOES IS PRIOR, IT
11:01:09 WAS ABSOLUTELY SLATED FOR POTENTIAL DEMOLITION.
11:01:14 WHAT THIS DOES IS GIVE IT THE LOCAL LANDMARK STATUS THAT
11:01:17 WOULD BE PROTECTED FROM THAT GOING FORWARD.
11:01:18 WITH THAT, I THINK SOL WANTS TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND MR.
11:01:22 CASPER AS WELL.
11:01:30 >> THANK YOU, TRUETT.
11:01:32 GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
11:01:34 SOL FLEISCHMAN.
11:01:36 FLEISCHMAN, GARCIA, MASLOWSKI ARCHITECTURE, 324 HYDE PARK
11:01:41 AVENUE.
11:01:42 AS A THIRD GENERATION NATIVE TAMPAN, HISTORIC PRESERVATION
11:01:48 HAS BEEN MY PASSION FOR MY 50 YEARS OF ARCHITECTURE
11:01:51 PRACTICE.
11:01:52 IT'S REALLY BEEN AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO WORK ON THIS
11:01:56 GREAT PROJECT, THE STOVALL HOUSE, AND TO HELP BRING BLAKE
11:02:01 CASPER'S VISION TO FRUITION.
11:02:03 THE PREVIOUS OWNER, HARRY TEASLEY, MAINTAINED AND PRESERVED
11:02:10 THE HOUSE VERY WELL, SO WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO MUCH TO
11:02:14 THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
11:02:16 AMONG THE THINGS WE DID WAS, AS DENNIS POINTED OUT, A FIRE
11:02:21 SPRINKLER SYSTEM ON BOTH FLOORS OF THE STRUCTURE.
11:02:24 WE UPGRADED THE FIXTURES AND THE FINISHES THROUGHOUT THE
11:02:28 HOUSE, AND WE ADDED A NEW EXIT DOOR IN THE FORMER DINING
11:02:35 ROOM WHICH WAS A WINDOW WITHIN THAT SAME OPENING.
11:02:40 AND THAT EXIT DOOR MAKES THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE HOUSE
11:02:44 COMPLETELY HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE.
11:02:47 IN ADDITION, WE WERE SENSITIVE TO THE PLANNING OF THE SITE
11:02:52 TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HISTORIC HOUSE MAINTAINED PROMINENCE.
11:02:59 SO THAT SAID, THIS IS A TAMPA TREASURE AND I STRONGLY
11:03:03 RECOMMEND LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
11:03:05 I'LL TURN IT OVER TO BLAKE CASPER.
11:03:10 >> THANK YOU, SOL.
11:03:12 BLAKE CASPER, OWNER OF THE STOVALL HOUSE, LLC.
11:03:16 I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR GIVING US THE
11:03:19 OPPORTUNITY, THE TRUST TO TAKE STEWARDSHIP OF THE STOVALL
11:03:24 HOUSE.
11:03:24 AND REALLY INVITE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN
11:03:29 PERSON, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU, BUT WE'D LOVE TO GET THIS
11:03:32 DESIGNATION.
11:03:32 I THINK THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF OUR EFFORTS TO CONSERVE
11:03:36 THE PROPERTY AND CONSERVE A PIECE OF HISTORY FOR TAMPA.
11:03:40 SO WE'RE PROUD TO BE A PART OF IT.
11:03:42 WE'RE PROUD TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK IN THIS WAY.
11:03:45 AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRUST.
11:03:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS ARE QUESTIONS?
11:03:51 ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?
11:04:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:04:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
11:04:03 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO CLOSE.
11:04:04 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:04:04 ANY OPPOSED?
11:04:06 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:04:08 WAS THERE ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK?
11:04:11 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:04:18 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:04:19 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER E2022-8 CH 27, ORDINANCE
11:04:26 BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE
11:04:28 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, DESIGNATING STOVALL HOUSE
11:04:31 LOCATED AT 4621 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE
11:04:35 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 HEREOF AS A LOCAL
11:04:38 LANDMARKS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
11:04:40 CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
11:04:42 DATE.
11:04:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED
11:04:45 BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:04:46 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:04:47 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:04:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:04:51 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:04:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:04:54 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:04:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:04:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:04:58 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
11:05:01 ABSENT.
11:05:02 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 2nd,
11:05:06 2022, AT 9:30 A.M.
11:05:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:05:09 ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 37, FILE E2022-8 CH 14.
11:05:19 >> SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
11:05:23 ITEM 37 IS SECOND READING FOR AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD
11:05:26 AMENDMENT SECTION 14-153 OF THE CODE WHICH IS A SECTION OF
11:05:29 THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
11:05:31 THIS ORDINANCE YOU'LL RECALL MOVES THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM
11:05:35 THE LIST OF DISTRICTS WHERE NOISE IS MEASURED USING THE
11:05:38 DECIBEL LEVEL STANDARD.
11:05:39 THE EFFECT OF THIS WOULD BE TO HAVE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT
11:05:42 GOING FORWARD HAVE SOUND MEASURED USING THE PLAINLY AUDIBLE
11:05:47 STANDARD.
11:05:47 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
11:05:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:05:52 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:05:53 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST, AGAIN, WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR
11:05:59 HARD WORK ON THIS.
11:06:00 IT'S FUNNY ON THE NOISE ORDINANCE, MANY OF US, MYSELF
11:06:05 INCLUDED, WENT BACK AND FORTH ON IT AND WHATNOT, JUST BACK
11:06:11 AND FORTH ON IT, AND I THINK IN THE END, THOSE OF US WHO
11:06:14 VOTED TO RECONSIDER THE ENTIRE THING, AGAIN, MYSELF
11:06:17 INCLUDED, THEN WENT AND SAID, HEY, WE LEFT OUR FRIENDS AT
11:06:22 CHANNELSIDE BACK THERE AND THAT CERTAINLY WASN'T OUR INTENT.
11:06:26 I KNOW THAT YOU'VE WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS GOING ALL THE
11:06:29 WAY BACK.
11:06:30 I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THIS BECAUSE, AGAIN,
11:06:33 CHANNELSIDE IS UNIQUE, AND LIKE I ALWAYS SAY, SOMEWHERE IN
11:06:37 BETWEEN YBOR CITY AND TAMPA PALMS IS CHANNELSIDE, AND THAT'S
11:06:40 VERY, VERY TRUE.
11:06:42 SO JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
11:06:44 THANK YOU.
11:06:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:06:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN, LIKE COUNCILMAN
11:06:48 VIERA JUST SAID, IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO DO SOMETHING.
11:06:56 SOMEBODY MAY SAY, I DON'T HEAR NOISE.
11:06:58 IF YOU'RE NOT NEAR BARS, NOISE, MUSIC, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
11:07:02 HEAR MUCH NOISE.
11:07:03 ALL IN ALL, IT'S LIKE SAYING YOU MIGHT BUY AN ACRE IN A
11:07:07 TOMATO PATCH AND NOT HEAR MUCH.
11:07:09 AS SOON AS THAT ACRE DEVELOPS, YOU'LL HEAR A LOT.
11:07:12 DEPENDS WHAT MOVES THERE, IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO NEGATE
11:07:19 SOME OF THE NEGATIVE WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THIS IS
11:07:22 ONE OF THEM.
11:07:22 I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR DOING WHAT THEY DO AND THE
11:07:25 REST OF THE CITY FOR UNDERSTANDING WHAT NOISE REALLY IS IF
11:07:28 YOU LIVE THERE.
11:07:29 IF YOU LIVE THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THERE.
11:07:31 IF YOU DON'T LIVE THERE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR IT.
11:07:34 THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
11:07:35 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:07:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
11:07:36 IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO MAKE COMMENT?
11:07:44 >> GOOD MORNING AND CONGRATULATIONS, MR. CITRO AND
11:07:47 MR. MANISCALCO.
11:07:49 I'M LARRY RINDERKNECHT.
11:07:51 I LIVE IN THE TOWERS OF CHANNELSIDE ON THE 22nd FLOOR,
11:07:55 TOWER ONE ABOVE PARK AND REC.
11:07:58 I'M HERE.
11:07:59 I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE, AND I'M HERE TO
11:08:05 STRONGLY ENDORSE THIS SECOND READING OF THE AMENDMENT.
11:08:09 I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND WILLINGNESS TO
11:08:18 HELP.
11:08:19 IT IS VERY COMFORTING TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A CONCERNED AND
11:08:25 INVOLVED CITY COUNCIL FOCUSED ON MAKING OUR LIVES BETTER.
11:08:31 AND ON UNDERSTANDING THAT THE INTEREST OF BUSINESSES AND
11:08:35 CITIZENRY CAN ON SOME OCCASIONS BE CONFLICTING.
11:08:42 I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, WE SIMPLY
11:08:46 SEEK BALANCE BETWEEN A BUSINESS' RIGHT TO MAKE THE NOISE AND
11:08:52 OUR RIGHT TO LIVE WITHOUT IT.
11:08:56 PARK AND REC MOVED INTO OUR RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, NOT THE
11:09:01 REVERSE.
11:09:02 HAVING SAID THAT, AS I SAID BEFORE, I WANT TO STRONGLY
11:09:08 SUPPORT YOUR ADOPTION OF THE SECOND READING SO THAT WE CAN
11:09:12 HAVE SOME CONTROL OF THE NOISE BEING PRODUCED BY PARK AND
11:09:18 REC UNTIL 1:30 TO 2 A.M. AS RECENTLY AS TUESDAY NIGHT.
11:09:23 THAT CAN BE HEARD AND FELT IN OUR BEDROOM.
11:09:27 SO THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL WE BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO SLEEP.
11:09:34 THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
11:09:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:09:36 ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
11:09:36 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
11:09:39 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:09:42 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:09:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:09:46 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO CLOSE.
11:09:47 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:09:48 ANY OPPOSED?
11:09:50 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:09:51 MR. GUDES.
11:09:53 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:09:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER E2022-8 CH 14, ORDINANCE BEING
11:09:58 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF
11:10:01 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE REGULATION OF
11:10:03 NOISE, MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES,
11:10:06 CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE III (NOISE); AMENDING SECTION 14-153,
11:10:12 UNREASONABLY EXCESSIVE NOISE FROM A PROPERTY PROHIBITED.
11:10:15 YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT, CHANNEL DISTRICT, AND THE ARENA
11:10:16 DISTRICT; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
11:10:22 CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN
11:10:22 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:10:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY
11:10:26 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:10:27 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:10:28 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:10:30 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:10:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:10:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:10:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:10:36 >> MANISCALCO?
11:10:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:10:38 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
11:10:40 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE AND HURTAK BEING ABSENT.
11:10:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:10:44 AGENDA ITEM 38, FILE TA/CPA21-01.
11:10:52 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:10:56 DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
11:10:58 THIS IS SECOND READING FOR TA/CPA 21-01, TEXT AMENDMENT TO
11:11:05 CORRECT SCRIVENER'S ERROR SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH LANGUAGE
11:11:07 IN ORDINANCE 2022-21.
11:11:11 CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT AT YOUR HEARING
11:11:13 ON FEBRUARY 17th.
11:11:16 WE SENT THIS AMENDMENT TO DEO WHO PROVIDED NO OBJECTION.
11:11:22 THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
11:11:23 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:11:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:11:26 NO ONE IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK.
11:11:37 ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC HERE?
11:11:39 MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:11:48 >> SO MOVED.
11:11:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:11:52 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:11:55 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:11:57 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:11:58 MR. VIERA.
11:11:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
11:12:00 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:12:05 ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-21 PASSED AND
11:12:08 ORDAINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON
11:12:11 FEBRUARY 17, 2022; CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY
11:12:15 SUBSTITUTING A NEW EXHIBIT A FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED
11:12:18 EXHIBIT A TO ACCURATELY REFLECT THE TEXT AMENDMENT LANGUAGE
11:12:20 SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT LANGUAGE IN
11:12:22 ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-21; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
11:12:26 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:12:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:12:30 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:12:31 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:12:32 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:12:35 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:12:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:12:37 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:12:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:12:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:12:44 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
11:12:46 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE AND HURTAK BEING ABSENT.
11:12:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:12:53 AGENDA ITEM 39, TA/CPA 21-14.
11:12:58 >> DANNY COLLINS AGAIN WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
11:13:01 I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
11:13:02 SECOND READING FOR TA/CPA 21-14, MAP AMENDMENT TO RECOGNIZE
11:13:06 THE SITES LOCATED AT 2111 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE UNDER THE
11:13:10 RESIDENTIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
11:13:13 CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT AT YOUR HEARING
11:13:15 ON APRIL 14.
11:13:16 THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
11:13:18 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:13:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:13:21 HEARING NONE, MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:13:25 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:13:30 MR. MECHANIK, YOU'RE THERE.
11:13:32 >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF
11:13:36 THE APPLICANT, AND WE ARE HERE SIMPLY TO ANSWER ANY
11:13:42 QUESTIONS.
11:13:43 THIS IS A COMPANION TO ITEM 47 WHICH WAS THE REZONING FOR
11:13:48 THE PROPERTY.
11:13:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
11:13:52 ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE?
11:14:00 >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:14:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:14:03 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:14:06 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:14:07 ANY OPPOSED?
11:14:08 THANK YOU.
11:14:09 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:14:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:14:12 MOVE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:14:14 ADOPTION.
11:14:14 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
11:14:18 PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE
11:14:23 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2111 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE FROM LIGHT
11:14:28 INDUSTRIAL LI IN PARENTHESES AND RESIDENTIAL-35 (R-35) TO
11:14:34 RESIDENTIAL-35 (R-35); PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
11:14:40 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
11:14:43 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:14:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:14:47 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:14:49 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:14:52 IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:14:53 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:14:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:14:57 >> VIERA?
11:14:58 MIR?
11:14:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:14:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:15:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:15:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:15:05 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA ABSENT AT
11:15:08 VOTE AND HURTAK BEING ABSENT.
11:15:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:15:12 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:15:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 40, FILE NUMBER E2022-8
11:15:18 CH 27.
11:15:28 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:15:30 DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND HISTORIC
11:15:33 PRESERVATION MANAGER.
11:15:34 STAFF PRESENTED YOU WITH A FULL PRESENTATION DURING FIRST
11:15:37 READING.
11:15:37 I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:15:39 THANK YOU.
11:15:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:15:41 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT?
11:15:49 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
11:15:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA,
11:15:56 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:15:58 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:15:59 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:16:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:16:02 I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:16:04 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
11:16:06 AMENDING THE WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES GROUP TO INCLUDE
11:16:09 THE MacFARLANE BUILDING LOCATED AT 1902 NORTH HOWARD
11:16:13 AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
11:16:16 SECTION 3 HEREOF AS A LOCAL LANDMARKS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL
11:16:19 OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
11:16:21 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:16:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:16:24 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:16:25 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:16:26 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:16:29 >> VIERA?
11:16:29 MIRANDA?
11:16:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:16:33 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:16:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES MAN'S YES.
11:16:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:16:37 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA ABSENT AT
11:16:39 VOTE AND HURTAK ABSENT.
11:16:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA 41.
11:16:45 E2022-8 CH 27.
11:16:50 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
11:16:52 AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION MANAGER.
11:16:53 THIS IS ANOTHER ADDITION TO THE WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE
11:16:56 PROPERTIES GROUP, AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:17:00 THANK YOU.
11:17:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:17:01 IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
11:17:06 PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:17:07 MR. MECHANIK, I BELIEVE WE HAVE YOU ONLINE, MR. GARCIA, AND
11:17:14 MR. SCHULLER.
11:17:15 OH, THAT'S THE WRONG NUMBER FOR THEM.
11:17:18 NEVER MIND.
11:17:19 THANK YOU, THREE GENTLEMEN.
11:17:20 IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE?
11:17:23 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:17:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:17:26 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO CLOSE.
11:17:28 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:17:29 ANY OPPOSED?
11:17:32 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:17:36 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:17:37 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE E2022-8 CH 27,
11:17:44 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
11:17:46 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE
11:17:48 WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES GROUP TO INCLUDE PROPERTY
11:17:51 LISTING LOCATED AT 1208 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
11:17:55 AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 HEREOF, AS A
11:17:58 LOCAL LANDMARK, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
11:18:01 CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
11:18:03 DATE.
11:18:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED
11:18:08 BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:18:09 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:18:10 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:18:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:18:15 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:18:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:18:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:18:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:18:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:18:20 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
11:18:22 ABSENT.
11:18:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:18:24 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 42, FILE REZ-20-66.
11:18:34 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: ZAIN HUSAIN DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:18:36 FIRST, MR. CITRO AND MANISCALCO, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW
11:18:39 ROLES.
11:18:39 ALWAYS A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU.
11:18:41 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 42, CASE REZ-20-66.
11:18:46 THIS BEING HEARD FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:18:49 NOW, YESTERDAY, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO GO
11:18:53 TO FIRST READING ON JUNE 2nd AT 5:01 P.M.
11:18:57 THIS WAS SENT YESTERDAY TO THE COUNCILMEN.
11:19:00 BUT THE PROJECT IS FOR 5301 WEST TYSON AVENUE FROM IH
11:19:06 INDUSTRIAL HEAVY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
11:19:09 MULTIFAMILY, RETAIL SALES, SPECIALTY GOODS, AND CONVENIENCE
11:19:12 GOODS, SHOPPER'S GOODS AND MARINA.
11:19:15 THIS BEING REQUESTED FOR A CONTINUANCE.
11:19:22 I BELIEVE YOU LEAVE IT TO A VOTE.
11:19:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU THE PETITIONER FOR THIS?
11:19:25 >> I AM.
11:19:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU STILL ASKING FOR THE CONTINUANCE?
11:19:29 >> YES.
11:19:29 WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU RESPECTFULLY CONTINUE THIS OR SCHEDULE
11:19:35 IT FOR -- RESCHEDULE IT FOR FIRST READING ON JUNE 2nd.
11:19:39 ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE IS AN
11:19:42 ACCESS POINT ONTO THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST.
11:19:46 IT WAS DISCOVERED LAST WEEK THAT THE APPLICANT FOR THE
11:19:51 REZONING ON THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST PUT THEIR ACCESS POINTS
11:19:57 IN A LOCATION THAT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH WHERE OUR ACCESS IS
11:20:02 PLANNED TO BE.
11:20:03 AS A RESULT, WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT THIS
11:20:07 NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND FIXED.
11:20:10 AND IN ORDER TO FIX AND REALIGN OUR ACCESS POINTS SO THAT WE
11:20:13 CAN MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, WE NEED TO GO BACK TO FIRST
11:20:18 READING.
11:20:19 IT'S BEEN DETERMINED THAT IT'S FULLY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
11:20:24 SETTLEMENT AND MEDIATION, BUT JUST REQUIRES A TWEAK TO THE
11:20:28 SITE PLAN THAT CANNOT BE DONE THROUGH SECOND READING.
11:20:31 SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE REQUESTING THIS.
11:20:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY ASK ON THE RECORD, THEN YOU ARE
11:20:38 REQUESTING TO GO BACK TO THE FIRST READING BECAUSE THE
11:20:40 ALIGNMENT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH EACH OTHER?
11:20:43 >> YES.
11:20:43 WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT IS
11:20:47 AS WE PROPOSE AND THAT IT WORKS AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL COME
11:20:51 BACK AS AN EVEN BETTER PROJECT.
11:20:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU CAN, IF YOU COULD
11:20:57 STATE YOUR NAME.
11:20:58 >> ANN POLLOCK, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, 433 CENTRAL
11:21:04 SAVE, ST. PETE.
11:21:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THIS THE FIRST TIME YOU'VE ASKED FOR
11:21:07 CONTINUANCE ON THIS CASE?
11:21:11 >> IT IS -- I THINK WE ASKED INITIALLY FOR A CONTINUANCE
11:21:14 FROM JANUARY TO MARCH.
11:21:16 THAT WAS TO -- YES.
11:21:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:21:19 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO
11:21:22 THE CONTINUANCE ONLY?
11:21:24 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE
11:21:30 CONTINUANCE ONLY?
11:21:33 >> JEAN STROHMEYER, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE OR IF YOU WOULD
11:21:38 LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
11:21:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. STROHMEYER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO
11:21:42 THE CONTINUANCE ONLY?
11:21:45 >> YES, SURE.
11:21:46 I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD NOT GET A CONTINUANCE.
11:21:48 THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND
11:21:54 THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN THEIR ACT TOGETHER BY NOW.
11:21:57 I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT FOR THEM TO GET A CONTINUANCE,
11:22:01 SO I SAY NO.
11:22:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. STROHMEYER, YOU NEED TO BE VISIBLE.
11:22:05 YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN, AND WE NEED TO HAVE YOUR NAME.
11:22:10 >> OH.
11:22:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE.
11:22:16 >> YES.
11:22:19 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
11:22:21 YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
11:22:25 >> YES.
11:22:26 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
11:22:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. STROHMEYER.
11:22:32 >> HI --
11:22:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MS. STROHMEYER, THIS IS A CONTINUANCE
11:22:38 ACTUALLY TO GO BACK TO FIRST READING TO CORRECT A SITE PLAN
11:22:42 ALIGNMENT ISSUE.
11:22:43 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU CAUGHT THAT OR NOT.
11:22:45 BUT THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE CONTINUANCE.
11:22:47 SO IF YOU HAVE A POSITION, YOU CAN SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE
11:22:50 WHETHER YOU'RE FOR IT OR AGAINST IT AND WHY, IF THAT'S THE
11:22:53 CASE.
11:22:55 >> OKAY.
11:22:55 MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER AND I JUST HEARD THAT YOU ALL ARE
11:22:59 GOING TO -- THEY ARE TRYING TO GET A CONTINUANCE AND GO BACK
11:23:03 TO FIRST READING.
11:23:03 ACTUALLY, I THINK THAT WILL GIVE US A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO
11:23:06 START TELLING THE TRUTH IN THIS MATTER, SO THEREFORE I
11:23:09 CHANGED MY MIND AND I THINK THE CONTINUANCE IS A GREAT IDEA
11:23:13 GOING BACK TO FIRST READING.
11:23:15 THANK YOU.
11:23:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. STROHMEYER.
11:23:18 ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
11:23:19 ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
11:23:28 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION.
11:23:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:23:30 MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:23:32 >> SO MOVED.
11:23:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:23:35 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:23:36 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:23:37 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:23:40 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO CONTINUE
11:23:42 THIS TO WHAT DATE FOR FIRST READING?
11:23:44 TO JUNE 2nd FOR FIRST READING.
11:23:52 >> MOVE TO REOPEN.
11:23:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
11:23:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:23:58 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:24:00 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:24:03 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE
11:24:07 THIS TO JUNE 2nd FOR FIRST READING.
11:24:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY --
11:24:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
11:24:15 JUNE 2nd OF 2022 AT WHAT TIME?
11:24:17 9:30 A.M.?
11:24:18 >> 5:01 P.M.
11:24:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
11:24:22 THAT'S RIGHT.
11:24:22 5:01.
11:24:24 5:01 P.M.
11:24:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT GOOD FOR YOUR MOTION, COUNCILMAN
11:24:30 CARLSON?
11:24:31 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:24:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED
11:24:34 BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:24:35 IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:24:37 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:24:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:24:45 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:24:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:24:47 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:24:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:24:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:24:50 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
11:24:53 ABSENT.
11:24:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 43, AB2-21-28.
11:25:02 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: ZAIN HUSAIN DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:25:04 THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:25:09 3225 SOUTH MacDILL AVENUE TO CORRECT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR
11:25:14 BY SUBSTITUTING A NEW EXHIBIT A FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED
11:25:17 EXHIBIT A TO REFLECT AN ACCURATE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE
11:25:21 SUBJECT PROPERTY CONSISTENT WITH THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION ON
11:25:23 THE SITE PLAN AND ALSO IN ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-38.
11:25:28 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, IF NEEDED.
11:25:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:25:33 THANK YOU.
11:25:35 HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?
11:25:41 >> I HAVE NOT.
11:25:43 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
11:25:45 YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
11:25:48 >> I DO.
11:25:48 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
11:25:49 >> JAIME MAIER, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, 101 EAST KENNEDY
11:25:53 BOULEVARD, SUITE 3700.
11:25:55 I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:25:57 I KNOW THIS IS SECOND READING, BUT I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE
11:25:59 ARE ANY.
11:26:00 THANK YOU.
11:26:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
11:26:02 ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?
11:26:06 DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
11:26:09 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:26:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:26:12 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO CLOSE.
11:26:14 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:26:15 ANY OPPOSED?
11:26:17 THANK YOU.
11:26:19 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:26:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER AB2-21-28, ORDINANCE BEING
11:26:24 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:26:26 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-38 PASSED AND
11:26:29 ORDAINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON
11:26:33 FEBRUARY 17, 2022; CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY
11:26:37 SUBSTITUTING A NEW EXHIBIT A FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED
11:26:39 EXHIBIT A TO REFLECT AN ACCURATE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE
11:26:43 SUBJECT PROPERTY CONSISTENT WITH THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION ON
11:26:45 THE SITE PLAN AND IN ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-38, PROVIDING FOR
11:26:51 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:26:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:26:55 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:26:56 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:26:57 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:26:58 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:27:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:27:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:27:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:27:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:27:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:27:07 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
11:27:09 ABSENT.
11:27:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:27:10 ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 44, FILE VAC-22-08.
11:27:22 >> DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION PRESENTING FILE VAC-22-08 FOR
11:27:26 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:27:28 IT'S A VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OR
11:27:30 ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF YUKON STREET, NORTH OF SEWARD
11:27:36 STREET, EAST OF SEMINOLE AVENUE AND WEST OF INTERSTATE
11:27:40 275/CENTRAL AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF IRVINTON HEIGHTS.
11:27:47 STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
11:27:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:27:50 MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:27:55 I'M SORRY.
11:27:57 DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?
11:27:58 IS ANYBODY REGISTERED?
11:28:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:28:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO
11:28:05 CLOSE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:28:07 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:28:07 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:28:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:28:12 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:28:12 I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:28:14 ADOPTION.
11:28:15 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,
11:28:17 CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING A
11:28:19 RIGHT-OF-WAY/ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF YUKON STREET, NORTH
11:28:23 OF SEWARD STREET, EAST OF SEMINOLE AVENUE AND WEST OF
11:28:26 INTERSTATE 275/CENTRAL AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF IRVINTON
11:28:31 HEIGHTS, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OF HILLSBOROUGH
11:28:34 COUNTY, FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF
11:28:37 SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS
11:28:40 MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR
11:28:42 ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR
11:28:44 DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICTS,
11:28:46 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:28:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:28:50 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:28:53 IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:28:54 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:28:57 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:28:58 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
11:29:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:29:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:29:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:29:08 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA VOTING NO, GUDES
11:29:12 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE, AND HURTAK BEING ABSENT.
11:29:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:29:16 ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 45, FILE REZ-21-94.
11:29:24 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: ZAIN HUSAIN DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:29:26 THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OF
11:29:29 THE LOCATION 6107 SOUTH 4th STREET.
11:29:33 PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS 60 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO
11:29:36 RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
11:29:38 THIS BEING EUCLIDEAN, NO SITE PLAN WAS REQUIRED.
11:29:42 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:29:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:29:44 SEEING NONE, MR. MICHELINI.
11:29:51 >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE
11:29:53 PETITIONER.
11:29:54 WE PLACED ALL OF THE PERTINENT INFORMATION AND DOCUMENTATION
11:29:58 IN THE RECORD, AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AT
11:30:01 SECOND READING.
11:30:02 I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
11:30:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
11:30:06 IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:30:08 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
11:30:12 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:30:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:30:15 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:30:17 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:30:18 ANY OPPOSED?
11:30:19 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:30:23 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
11:30:25 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
11:30:28 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 6107 SOUTH 4th STREET
11:30:30 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
11:30:32 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
11:30:35 RS-60, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL,
11:30:39 SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:30:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:30:42 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:30:44 ANY COMMENTS?
11:30:47 ANY DISCUSSION?
11:30:48 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:30:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:30:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:30:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:30:54 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:30:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:30:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:30:57 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
11:31:00 ABSENT.
11:31:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:31:02 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:31:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 46, REZ-21-46.
11:31:09 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: THANKS SO MUCH.
11:31:11 ZAIN HUSAIN DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:31:12 THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT
11:31:15 LOCATIONS 401 AND 505 NORTH ROME AVENUE AND 1517 WEST GRAY
11:31:21 STREET.
11:31:22 THIS IS PROPOSED REZONE FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND IG
11:31:27 INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
11:31:31 MULTIFAMILY, STOREFRONT/RESIDENTIAL WITH
11:31:34 BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND RETAIL SALES AND
11:31:37 BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND RETAIL SALES.
11:31:39 SITE PLANS WERE TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE TWO DAYS
11:31:42 AGO.
11:31:42 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
11:31:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:31:45 DO WE HAVE THE PETITIONER?
11:31:50 >> YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:31:53 I'M DAVE MECHANIK.
11:31:54 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
11:31:56 AND I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, SIMPLY AVAILABLE
11:32:01 TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:32:05 >> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
11:32:07 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:32:13 IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
11:32:18 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:32:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:32:22 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO CLOSE.
11:32:25 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:32:26 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
11:32:28 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:32:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:32:32 I MOVE ITEM 46.
11:32:33 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:32:35 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:32:38 401 AND 505 NORTH ROME AVENUE AND 1517 WEST GRAY STREET, IN
11:32:43 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
11:32:45 IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS PD
11:32:49 (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT) AND IG (INDUSTRIAL GENERAL) TO PD
11:32:54 (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY;
11:32:56 STOREFRONT/RESIDENTIAL WITH BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND
11:33:00 RETAIL SALES; BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND RETAIL
11:33:03 SALES); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:33:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:33:07 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:33:08 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:33:09 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:33:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:33:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:33:13 >> HURTAK? CARLSON? GUDES?
11:33:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:33:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:33:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:33:20 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
11:33:23 ABSENT AT VOTE AND HURTAK ABSENT.
11:33:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:33:25 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 47, FILE REZ-21-85.
11:33:32 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:33:33 ZAIN HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:33:35 THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:33:38 LOCATION 2111 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE.
11:33:42 PROPOSED REZONING FROM CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, RM-16,
11:33:47 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND RS-50 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
11:33:50 TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
11:33:53 ATTACHED AND RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY.
11:33:57 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
11:34:01 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:34:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:34:03 MR. MECHANIK, ARE YOU REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT?
11:34:10 >> YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS
11:34:13 DAVID MECHANIK.
11:34:14 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, AND WE ARE HERE TO
11:34:18 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL
11:34:23 ON SECOND READING.
11:34:24 THANK YOU.
11:34:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?
11:34:27 IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS?
11:34:31 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
11:34:39 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:34:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE MADE BY COUNCILMAN
11:34:43 MANISCALCO.
11:34:44 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:34:46 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:34:46 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:34:55 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER REZ-21-85,
11:34:59 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:35:01 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:35:04 2111 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
11:35:08 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
11:35:10 CLASSIFICATION CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, RM-16 RESIDENTIAL
11:35:13 MULTIFAMILY AND RS-50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD
11:35:17 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED AND
11:35:20 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:35:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:35:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:35:26 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:35:27 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:35:29 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:35:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:35:34 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:35:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:35:35 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:35:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:35:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:35:39 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
11:35:41 ABSENT.
11:35:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:35:45 THANK YOU, MR. MECHANIK.
11:35:46 FILE NUMBER 48, REZ-21-99.
11:35:54 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: THANKS SO MUCH.
11:35:56 ZAIN HUSAIN.
11:35:56 THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT
11:35:59 THE LOCATION 5242 AND 5250 EAST BROADWAY AVENUE.
11:36:04 PROPOSED REZONING FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
11:36:08 DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, AND STRIP SHOPPING
11:36:11 CENTER WITH ALL CI USES.
11:36:13 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
11:36:15 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:36:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
11:36:18 PETITIONER?
11:36:23 GOOD MORNING.
11:36:31 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:36:31 TRAVIS HILLS.
11:36:33 I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE
11:36:36 APPLICANT.
11:36:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT?
11:36:41 IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
11:36:46 PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS?
11:36:47 AND WE HAVE NO ONE VIRTUALLY.
11:36:50 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:36:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:36:53 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:36:54 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:36:55 ANY OPPOSED?
11:36:57 WHO DID I LEAVE OFF WITH.
11:37:01 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:37:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER REZ-21-99.
11:37:06 ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:37:09 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:37:11 5242 AND 5250 EAST BROADWAY AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:37:15 FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
11:37:18 ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD
11:37:21 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY AND STRIP
11:37:23 SHOPPING CENTER WITH ALL CI USES; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
11:37:27 DATE.
11:37:28 ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE SAID ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING
11:37:31 HAD BEEN INITIATED BY -- OKAY.
11:37:34 ALL RIGHT.
11:37:35 >> SECOND.
11:37:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:37:37 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:37:39 IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:37:42 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:37:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:37:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:37:46 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:37:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:37:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:37:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:37:54 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
11:37:57 ABSENT.
11:37:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:38:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TRAVIS, THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD PROJECT
11:38:07 FOR THE SIX-MILE CREEK AREA.
11:38:09 THOSE OLD TRAILER PARKS BEEN TORN AWAY MANY, MANY MOONS AGO.
11:38:13 IT'S EMPTY OVER THERE.
11:38:15 THIS WILL REALLY BE SOMETHING FOR THE PEOPLE OVER THERE.
11:38:18 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:38:19 IF I MAY, ON THAT NOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT TO THE
11:38:23 ATTENTION OF COUNCIL AND YOU IN PARTICULAR, IS THAT THE
11:38:26 OWNER HAS INFORMED ME OF THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN
11:38:29 STRUGGLING IN THE AREA WITH SOME THINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN
11:38:34 PLACE WITH REGARDS TO CRIME AND ENCAMPMENT OF HOMELESS,
11:38:39 ET CETERA, AND THAT THEY HAVE KIND OF EXHAUSTED MANY OF
11:38:42 THEIR EFFORTS WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, LAW ENFORCEMENT,
11:38:47 ET CETERA.
11:38:47 AND THEY WERE ADVISED TO ACTUALLY BRING THIS MATTER BEFORE
11:38:51 YOU.
11:38:52 SO I DID WANT TO SPEAK ON IT AT THIS TIME JUST TO KIND OF
11:38:57 MAKE YOU AWARE THAT WE WILL BE AT SOME POINT COMING BACK TO
11:39:01 SEE IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF EFFORT THAT WE CAN MAKE TO
11:39:05 ADDRESS THESE MATTERS AS WE GO FORWARD BECAUSE WE'RE THE
11:39:10 FIRST IN THAT AREA TO ESTABLISH SOME REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS,
11:39:14 BUT THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE INTERESTED, AND THIS IS KIND OF
11:39:18 BECOMING A BIT OF AN OBSTACLE.
11:39:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND.
11:39:24 I'VE DRIVEN BY THERE, AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THE HOMELESS
11:39:27 PEOPLE ARE GOING IN THAT AREA BECAUSE IT'S OPEN.
11:39:29 I THINK ONCE YOU GET STARTED WITH THE PROJECT, IT WILL CLEAR
11:39:32 THAT OUT AND BE A GOOD DEVELOPMENT.
11:39:34 >> YES, IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS, SO
11:39:37 THAT'S A PARTICULAR --
11:39:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'LL MAKE SURE WE SEND SOMEBODY OVER TPD
11:39:42 AND CODE AND MAKE SURE LOOK AT THAT.
11:39:44 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:39:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:39:45 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I JUST, ONE RECOMMENDATION.
11:39:50 WE'VE HAD SIMILAR ISSUES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND I
11:39:53 WOULD RECOMMEND BEFORE YOU GUYS COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL, TO
11:39:56 TALK TO CHIEF OF STAFF, CHIEF BENNETT.
11:39:58 IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY HE'S BEEN ABLE TO PULL TOGETHER
11:40:01 ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD HANDLE THE ISSUES
11:40:03 AND HE'S IN PARTICULAR SENSITIVE TO RELOCATING HOMELESS
11:40:07 PEOPLE.
11:40:07 I WOULD CHECK WITH HIM FIRST.
11:40:10 HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SOLVE IT WITH A PHONE CALL.
11:40:12 >> OKAY.
11:40:13 WILL DEFINITELY DO THAT.
11:40:14 THANK YOU.
11:40:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 49, FILE REZ-22-03.
11:40:24 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: THANKS SO MUCH.
11:40:26 ZAIN HUSAIN.
11:40:26 THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT
11:40:28 THE LOCATION 1304 EAST 23rd AVENUE.
11:40:33 PROPOSED REZONING FROM PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
11:40:37 DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
11:40:40 SITE PLANS WERE TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
11:40:42 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
11:40:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
11:40:47 SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
11:40:51 >> EUGENE --
11:40:52 I LIVE AT 1220 EAST CUMBERLAND AVENUE IN TAMPA.
11:40:55 JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY.
11:40:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OF THE PETITIONER?
11:41:00 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
11:41:05 PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:41:06 DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
11:41:09 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:41:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
11:41:12 MANISCALCO.
11:41:12 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:41:14 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:41:14 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:41:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
11:41:21 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:41:22 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:41:24 1304 EAST 23rd AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
11:41:27 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
11:41:29 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
11:41:33 DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED; PROVIDING
11:41:35 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:41:36 >> SECOND.
11:41:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:41:38 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:41:40 ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS?
11:41:42 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:41:46 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:41:47 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:41:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:41:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:41:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:41:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:41:53 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK
11:41:56 BEING ABSENT.
11:41:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA 50, FILE NUMBER REZ-22-16.
11:42:05 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:42:06 ZAIN HUSAIN.
11:42:07 THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT
11:42:09 LOCATION 814 WEST AMELIA AVENUE.
11:42:13 PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS-60, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO
11:42:17 RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
11:42:19 THIS BEING EUCLIDEAN, NO SITE PLAN WAS REQUIRED.
11:42:22 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:42:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:42:28 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:42:29 JOHN LAROCCA, REPRESENTING THE OWNER APPLICANT.
11:42:34 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, SUITE 2420.
11:42:37 I'M ONLY HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
11:42:38 I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:42:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE REPRESENTATIVE?
11:42:43 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
11:42:46 DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
11:42:51 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:42:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:42:54 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:42:55 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:42:56 ANY OPPOSED?
11:42:58 COUNCILMAN --
11:43:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU MISSED IT.
11:43:06 [ LAUGHTER ]
11:43:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:43:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 50, MOVE AN ORDINANCE
11:43:12 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 814 WEST AMELIA
11:43:15 AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY
11:43:17 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
11:43:20 RS-60, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL
11:43:24 SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:43:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, MR. MIRANDA, THAT IS FOR SECOND
11:43:29 READING AND ADOPTION.
11:43:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:43:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:43:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:43:34 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:43:36 ANY DISCUSSION?
11:43:37 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:43:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:43:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:43:42 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:43:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:43:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:43:49 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
11:43:52 ABSENT AT VOTE AND HURTAK BEING ABSENT.
11:43:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM NUMBER 51, FILE REZ-22-21.
11:44:03 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:44:07 THIS IS PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT A
11:44:10 LOCATION 4801 COMMERCE STREET, PROPOSED REZONING FROM IG
11:44:15 INDUSTRIAL GENERAL AND RM-24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD,
11:44:20 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RETAIL SALES, CONVENIENCE GOODS AND
11:44:23 GASOLINE.
11:44:24 SITE PLANS WERE TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
11:44:27 HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:44:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
11:44:32 PETITIONER?
11:44:36 DO WE HAVE A PETITIONER ONLINE?
11:44:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:44:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
11:44:46 MIRANDA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:44:49 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:44:49 ANY OPPOSED?
11:44:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
11:44:52 PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:44:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THOUGHT I DID, DIDN'T I?
11:44:57 FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:44:58 I APOLOGIZE.
11:44:58 IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:45:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE ENTITLED TO ONE MISTAKE.
11:45:04 ONLY ONE.
11:45:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY ONLINE?
11:45:09 MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
11:45:12 MANISCALCO.
11:45:12 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:45:16 LET'S SEE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:45:17 >>BILL CARLSON: FILE NUMBER REZ 22-21, FOR SECOND READING
11:45:25 AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
11:45:27 VICINITY OF 4801 COMMERCE STREET IN THE ICED TEA CITY OF
11:45:31 TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
11:45:33 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL
11:45:37 AND RM-24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
11:45:40 RETAIL SALES, CONVENIENCE GOODS AND GASOLINE PROVIDING AN
11:45:42 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:45:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:45:46 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:45:47 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:45:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:45:49 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:45:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:45:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:45:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:45:57 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
11:46:00 ABSENT AT VOTE AND HURTAK ABSENT.
11:46:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:46:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 352.
11:46:17 >> CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
11:46:18 WE RECOMMEND YOU OPEN 52 AND 53 TOGETHER.
11:46:21 THEY ARE TOGETHER AND WILL HAVE THE SAME PRESENTATIONS.
11:46:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEY ARE BOTH OPEN.
11:46:28 >> AND TO CLARIFY 52 IS A VACATION WHICH YOU WILL BE VOTING
11:46:33 ON TODAY.
11:46:34 53 IS THE STRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT REQUIRES TWO
11:46:37 PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO TODAY WILL BE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING,
11:46:40 THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IS MAY 19th.
11:46:42 SO EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A RESOLUTION INCLUDED IN YOUR
11:46:45 PACKAGE FOR CONVENIENCE, YOU WON'T BE VOTING ON THE
11:46:47 RESOLUTION UNTIL MAY 19th.
11:47:00 >>RON WIGGINTON: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:47:01 ITEM 52 IS A VACATING APPLICATION THAT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT
11:47:05 THAN YOUR NORMAL VACATING APPLICATIONS IN THAT IT CONTAINS A
11:47:08 BRICK STREET REMOVAL REQUEST.
11:47:10 BUT AS FAR AS THE VACATING ITSELF, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND
11:47:14 CITY COUNCIL THAT YOU HAVE BROAD DISCRETION IN DETERMINING
11:47:17 WHETHER TO OOH PROFESSOR DENY THE APPLICATION PART OF THE
11:47:22 PACKAGE TO YOUR CONSIDERATION WHETHER RELIEVING THE ALLEY
11:47:27 WILL BE ALLEVIATE THE PUBLIC NUISANCE SUCH AS ILLEGAL
11:47:31 DUMPING OR CURTAIL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, WHETHER THE VACATING
11:47:34 WILL FOSTER REDEVELOPMENT OF ABUTTING PROPERTIES AND WHETHER
11:47:38 ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS ACCESS WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY
11:47:41 DIMINISHED OR COMPLETELY CUT OFF.
11:47:43 MR. ROSS SAMMONS IS AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY TO PROVIDE HIS
11:47:47 PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE AFTERWARDS TO ANSWER ANY
11:47:49 QUESTIONS.
11:47:50 THANK YOU.
11:47:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SAMMONS.
11:47:58 >>ROSS SAMMONS: I ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
11:48:13 CAN COUNCIL SEE MY SCREEN?
11:48:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, WE CAN.
11:48:17 THANK YOU.
11:48:17 >>ROSS SAMMONS: FILE REZ 21-15 FOR FIRST READING
11:48:23 CONSIDERATION.
11:48:29 THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE FINLEY STREET, WEST
11:48:39 OF NEBRASKA AVENUE, EAST OF MERIDIAN AVENUE.
11:48:42 THESE RIGHTS-OF-WAY WERE CREATED FOR THE SUBDIVISION PLATTED
11:48:44 MAP OF FINLEY AND CAESAR SUBDIVISION EAST OF DOWNTOWN
11:48:48 CHANNEL DISTRICT.
11:48:55 THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS TO FACILITATE
11:48:58 AND RECONFIGURATION OF IMPROVEMENTS TO ROADWAY AND NETWORKS
11:49:03 WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN TAMPA CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT FOR
11:49:07 WATER STREET DEVELOPMENT.
11:49:11 THE APPLICANT ASKING TO VACATE THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY OF FINLEY,
11:49:15 WALTON AND CESAR STREETS AND BIRCH STREET AND WALTON AND
11:49:22 CESAR, 56,000 SQUARE FEET, THE STREETS ARE UNIMPROVED,
11:49:28 WALTON AND CESAR ARE BRICKS STREETS.
11:49:31 ALL PORTIONS OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH THE COMPENSATION OF
11:49:34 TECO, PEOPLE'S GAS, ARE NOTED AND REQUIRED FOR WATER,
11:49:39 STORMWATER, WASTEWATER, TECO, SPECTRUM.
11:49:43 MOST OF THE PORTIONS OF THE STREETS ARE CURRENTLY IN USE BUT
11:49:46 THERE'S SOME PRELIMINARY CONSTRUCTION GOING ON WITHIN THE
11:49:48 AREA, AND THEY ARE SHOWN IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES.
11:49:58 HERE ARE STREETS PROPOSED TO BE VACATED IN YELLOW.
11:50:02 THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS IN RED.
11:50:07 NORTH SIDE IS EAST FINLEY AND WALTON TO THE SOUTH, AND
11:50:13 CESAR.
11:50:17 AGAIN, THE ROADS TO BE VACATED IN PINK.
11:50:25 THIS JUST SHOWING IN READ THE ROADS TO BE VACATED WITHIN THE
11:50:29 SUBDIVISION PLAT.
11:50:34 AND HERE SHOWING THE BRICK STREETS OF EAST WALTON AND SOUTH
11:50:41 CESAR STREET HERE.
11:50:46 HERE IS AN IMAGE OF FINLEY STREET LOOKING EAST FROM NEBRASKA
11:50:50 AVENUE.
11:50:53 FINLEY STREET LOOKING WEST TOWARDS NEBRASKA AVENUE.
11:51:01 EAST OF CESAR STREET.
11:51:05 WALTON STREET LOOKING WEST FROM NEBRASKA AVENUE AGAIN, THE
11:51:09 BRICK STREET.
11:51:13 WALTON STREET LOOKING EAST TOWARDS NEBRASKA AVENUE.
11:51:18 CESAR STREET LOOKING SOUTH FROM FINLEY STREET.
11:51:24 CESAR STREET LOOKING NORTH FROM WALTON STREET.
11:51:29 CESAR STREET LOOKING SOUTH FROM WALTON STREET.
11:51:35 STAFF HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THE VACATING REQUEST BASED ON THE
11:51:38 RESPONSE WE RECEIVED FROM REVIEWING AGENCIES.
11:51:40 IF THE REQUEST IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, CONDITIONS ARE
11:51:45 REQUIRED FOR WATER, STORMWATER, WASTEWATER, TECO, FRONTIER
11:51:48 AND SPECTRUM.
11:51:49 TRANSPORTATION DESIGN AND MOBILITY REQUIRE THAT THE BRICKS
11:51:52 AND GRANITE CURBING BE PALLETIZED AND RETURNED TO THE CITY
11:51:57 FOR USE WITHIN PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH APPROVAL.
11:52:00 ALSO A FIVE YEAR CLAUSE IS INCLUDED FOR THIS VACATING.
11:52:06 CONDITIONS FOR NATURAL RESOURCES, TO COMPLY WITH TREE
11:52:12 PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN FOR ANY APPROVALS PLACED
11:52:15 ADJACENT TO TREES IN VACATED AREA.
11:52:18 THANK YOU.
11:52:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:52:22 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU KIND OF SAID THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO
11:52:28 BE REITERATE ESPECIALLY FOR THE PUBLIC, THAT WE CITY
11:52:31 COUNCIL, I THINK THE CITY HAS A REQUIREMENT TO REUSE
11:52:34 HISTORIC BRICKS THAT ARE TAKEN UP.
11:52:36 AND YOU SAY THAT IT WILL BE REPALLETIZED AND RETURNED TO THE
11:52:40 CITY.
11:52:40 SO IT WILL GO TO THE STORAGE AREA WHERE THE CITY KEEPS
11:52:44 HISTORIC BRICKS AND WILL BE USED ON OTHER ROADS WHERE BRICKS
11:52:47 ARE BEING RESTORED.
11:52:49 CORRECT?
11:52:50 >> CORRECT.
11:52:51 AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IF THE APPLICANT REQUESTED TO USE
11:52:56 THE CURRENT BRICKS FOR THE FUTURE PROJECT THAT THAT WILL BE
11:53:02 CONSIDERED BY THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
11:53:06 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
11:53:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
11:53:11 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT?
11:53:15 I'M SORRY.
11:53:15 AM I MISSING -- MS. MANDELL.
11:53:21 >>JULIA MANDELL: GRAY ROBINSON, EAST JACKSON STREET.
11:53:27 I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN AND MY TEAM HAS NOT BEEN SWORN.
11:53:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE THAT HADN'T BEEN SWORN IN?
11:53:33 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
11:53:37 >>JULIA MANDELL: YES, I DO.
11:53:39 JULIA MANDELL FOR THE RECORD HERE REPRESENTING STRATEGIC
11:53:42 PROPERTIES PARTNERS, WHO IS THE APPLICANT FOR THE VACATION
11:53:47 OF THE BRICK STREET RELOCATION AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT
11:53:51 AGREEMENT.
11:53:53 THIS PROJECT IS PART OF THE THIRD PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT OF
11:53:58 WATER STREET TAMPA.
11:54:00 I AM HERE WITH JIM SHIMBERG AND DAN MORRIS.
11:54:04 MR. MORRIS WILL GIVE A FURTHER EXPLANATION OF THE
11:54:08 INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGE TO RECONFIGURE THE STREETS IN THE
11:54:10 WATER STREET AREA AS THEY HAVE BEEN REIMAGINING,
11:54:14 RECONFIGURING THE STREETS IN THAT AREA, AND I WILL ASK MR.
11:54:17 MORRIS TO COME UP TO DESCRIBE EXACTLY WHAT THE PROJECT
11:54:19 ENTAILS, AND THEN I CAN SUM UP WHAT IT IS, AND I WANT TO BE
11:54:25 RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME.
11:54:26 THANK YOU.
11:54:38 >> I WILL BE USING THE PROJECTOR.
11:54:40 MY NAME IS DARREN MORRIS, WITH STRATEGIC PROPERTY PARTIES,
11:54:44 AS JULIA MENTIONED. I'M A VICE PRESIDENT WITH OUR MASTER
11:54:47 PLANNING GROUP AND EXCITED TO BE BEFORE YOU TODAY AND
11:54:50 HONORED TO SHARE MORE ABOUT THE FUTURE VISION OF THE
11:54:52 PROJECT, AS WE LOOK TO CONTINUE THE DEVELOPMENT NORTH OF THE
11:54:56 CURRENT PHASE.
11:55:08 WE ARE NEARING COMPLETION OF PHASE ONE OF WATER STREET
11:55:12 HAVING DELIVERED OVER 4 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF NEW OFFICE,
11:55:17 HOSPITALITY USES.
11:55:18 ADDITIONALLY, WE DEVELOPED NEW ROADS, INFRASTRUCTURES,
11:55:21 STREETSCAPES, PARKS AND PLAZA, AND ALL THIS HAS BEEN WITH
11:55:25 THE COOPERATION AND SUPPORT OF THE CITY COUNTY AND CRA
11:55:36 TEAMS, AND AS THE PROGRESS CONTINUES NORTH.
11:55:39 HOPEFULLY MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COME OUT AND SEE THE
11:55:44 REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA.
11:55:45 IT'S ABOUT QUITE EXCITING TO SEE THE STREETS TAKE SHAPE AND
11:55:49 VIBRANCY START TO OCCUR IN THIS AREA, AND DOWNTOWN STARTS TO
11:55:54 FURTHER BLOSSOM.
11:55:55 THIS IMAGE ON SCREEN DEPICTS APPROXIMATELY THE ROADS THAT
11:56:00 WERE RECONFIGURED, UPGRADED AS PART OF THE ROAD PROJECT SO I
11:56:06 SEE THIS BECAUSE THIS WAS -- THE ROAD WORK RECONFIGURATION
11:56:11 AND INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES WERE ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS TO
11:56:14 FACILITATE THE REDEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.
11:56:16 AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO
11:56:19 START ON IN THE NEXT PHASE TO THE NORTH, AND THE FIRST STEPS
11:56:23 TO FACILITATE THE PROJECT ADVANCING IN THE FORTHCOMING
11:56:29 YEARS.
11:56:30 SO IN THIS IMAGE, YOU SEE THE EXISTING ROADS AGAIN IN RED,
11:56:34 AS PART OF THESE PROJECTS.
11:56:36 IN BLUE IS A CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT OF THE PHASE 3 ROAD NETWORK.
11:56:42 THE GOAL IS TO EXTEND WATER STREET FROM ITS CURRENT
11:56:45 NORTHERLY TERMINUS AT CUMBERLAND AND HAVE IT CONTINUE GOING
11:56:49 NORTH CONNECTING TO WHITING STREET.
11:56:51 ADDITIONALLY, AS MENTIONED WE ARE LOOKING TO RECONFIGURE AND
11:56:57 REASSIGN THREE NEW EAST-WEST CONNECTIONS BRANCHING OFF OF
11:57:04 WATER STREET AND CONNECTING TO MERIDIAN AVENUE AND HELP
11:57:08 FURTHER FACILITATE BETTER ACCESS BETWEEN THE CHANNEL
11:57:10 DISTRICT AND CDD.
11:57:13 ADDITIONALLY IN ORANGE, DEPICTING SOME AREA IMPROVEMENTS
11:57:19 PLANNED AS PART OF THEIR PROCESS AND INCORPORATED WITH BOTH
11:57:23 THEA AND THE CITY IN REGARDS TO FUTURE OF THESE PAVED ROADS.
11:57:29 SPECIFICALLY WITHIN PHASE 3, WE HAVE DIVIDED IT INTO TWO
11:57:34 MAIN STAGES.
11:57:36 TODAY, THE DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
11:57:39 THAT'S BEING HEARD IS JUST FOR PHASE 3-A.
11:57:44 DOWN THE LINE WE WILL LOOK TO COME BEFORE YOU TO DISCUSS
11:57:47 PHASE 3-B.
11:57:48 THE INITIAL STEP IS TO BEGIN WITH THE EXTENSION OF WATER
11:57:53 STREET TO FINLEY AVENUE AND TO REDEVELOP AND RECONFIGURE
11:57:58 FINLEY AND WATER STREET TO CONNECT TO MERIDIAN AVENUE TO
11:58:03 CONNECT FURTHER ACCESS TO THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FOR CARS AND
11:58:07 PEDESTRIANS AND ALSO CREATE URBAN STREET GRID CONSISTENT
11:58:10 WITH THE FOUR PRINCIPALS VALUES OF THE FIRST PHASE TO
11:58:15 PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT, SUSTAINABILITY, WALKABILITY, AND
11:58:18 FURTHER IMPROVE THIS SECTION OF THE CDD.
11:58:26 OUR GOAL IS TO START THIS WORK TOWARDS THE LATTER HALF OF
11:58:31 THIS YEAR, LATE 2022, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO
11:58:39 PROCEED ACCORDINGLY.
11:58:42 JULIA, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, JULIA WILL COVER SOME OF
11:58:45 THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT IN CASE THERE'S ANY DETAILS THAT
11:58:48 ANYONE WANTS TO FURTHER UNDERSTAND.
11:58:51 >>JULIA MANDELL: THANK YOU.
11:58:56 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE VACATION ORDINANCE, BRICK STREET AND
11:59:02 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE RECONFIGURATION OF
11:59:05 THE EXISTING STREET GRID FOR MORE URBAN DESIGN THAT WOULD
11:59:08 ALLOW THE CONTINUING REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA.
11:59:10 SOME OF THE GENERAL TERMS IN THE AGREEMENT THAT ENSURE THIS
11:59:15 GOING FORWARD IS THE WORK NEEDS TO BE COMMENCED WITHIN 90
11:59:18 DAYS AND ROADWAY DEMOLITION, AND JUST TO NOT PROCEED
11:59:25 FORWARD, SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE THE WORK WITHIN 36 MONTHS OF
11:59:28 THE COMMENCEMENT, THE STREET REVISIONS, AND ALL OF THE
11:59:36 ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE MUST BE COMPLETE BEFORE ANY
11:59:39 CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES CAN BE GRANTED.
11:59:42 THAT THE POINT THIS REALLY IS JUST TO ENSURE THAT THE
11:59:45 INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE FOR ANY FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT, BUT
11:59:50 NO PROCEEDING FORWARD WITH ANY VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT CAN
11:59:53 OCCUR UNTIL THE WORK IS DONE.
11:59:57 I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THIS
11:59:59 PROJECT, AND I AM VERY EXCITED JUST TO CONTINUE TO SEE THIS
12:00:03 MOVE FORWARD, AND IF I CAN ADD BEFORE I FINISH MY
12:00:07 PRESENTATION, CONGRATULATIONS TO MR. CITRO, MR. MANISCALCO,
12:00:10 ON YOUR ROLES.
12:00:12 IT'S ALWAYS VERY EXCITING THIS TIME OF YEAR TO SEE HOW
12:00:14 THINGS ARE GOING TO PROCEED FORWARD OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
12:00:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MANDELL?
12:00:19 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE REPRESENTATIVE?
12:00:25 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:00:25 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
12:00:28 LEGAL CUT ME OFF IF I CAN'T ASK THIS QUESTION.
12:00:31 BUT I REMEMBER A PINNACLE PROJECT A LONG TIME AGO, ON WHAT
12:00:37 WAS PINNACLE PROPERTIES, IS IT TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES?
12:00:43 >> PINNACLE CHANNELSIDE IS AN LLC, A SUBSIDIARY OF STRATEGIC
12:00:47 PROPERTY PARTIES.
12:00:48 LLC.
12:00:49 I AM NOT SURE IF IT'S THE SAME ONE YOU ARE REFERRING TO.
12:00:53 >>BILL CARLSON: DIFFERENT COMPANIES?
12:00:55 >> JIM SHIMBERG.
12:00:57 I JUST WANT -- A CLARIFICATION IS THE NEXT PHASE WHICH
12:01:01 DARREN REFERENCED IS WHAT USED TO BE ARNELL'S PROPERTY AND
12:01:08 WE OWN THAT PROPERTY AS WELL AND THEY WILL BE VACATING THAT
12:01:09 PROPERTY BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, SO THAT WILL BE THE NEXT
12:01:12 PHASE, BUT PINNACLE IS A SUBSIDIARY.
12:01:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
12:01:17 >> JUST ONE MORE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC THAT THE SECOND PUBLIC
12:01:24 HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR MAY 19th AT 10:30.
12:01:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO SPEAK
12:01:33 TO THIS?
12:01:34 DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
12:01:40 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:01:42 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:01:46 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:01:48 ANY OPPOSED?
12:01:55 THE SUBSTITUTE, YES, SIR?
12:01:59 COUNCILMAN GUDES, CAN YOU READ THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE?
12:02:04 52.
12:02:06 VAC 21-15, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
12:02:08 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
12:02:11 VACATING CLOSING DISCONTINUING ABANDONING CERTAIN
12:02:14 RIGHTS-OF-WAY LOCATED SOUTH OF WHITING STREET NORTH OF
12:02:17 CUMBERLAND AVENUE EAST OF NEBRASKA AVENUE AND WEST OF
12:02:20 MERIDIAN AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF FINLEY AND CESAR
12:02:23 SUBDIVISION A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH
12:02:26 COUNTY FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF
12:02:29 SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS
12:02:33 MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT
12:02:36 AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS,
12:02:39 INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR
12:02:42 SEVERABILITY, APPROVING A REQUEST TO IMPACT CERTAIN
12:02:47 VITRIFIED BRICK STREETS LYING WITHIN SAID RIGHTS-OF-WAY
12:02:51 SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN
12:02:54 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:02:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:02:56 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
12:02:58 ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:02:58 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:03:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:03:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:03:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:03:08 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:03:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:03:09 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK ABSENT.
12:03:12 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 2nd,
12:03:16 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
12:03:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCE THE DATE?
12:03:26 >>THE CLERK: FILE PH 22-74 OH 05, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING
12:03:31 IS TO BE HELD ON MAY 19th, 2022 AT 10:30 A.M. OR SOON
12:03:36 THEREAFTER.
12:03:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THAT'S JUST A TITLE, THE RESOLUTION
12:03:42 JUST HAS TO BE MOVED FOR THE SECOND READING.
12:03:45 >> THE RESOLUTION WILL BE CONSIDERED AT THE SECOND PUBLIC
12:03:48 HEARING.
12:03:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S FINE.
12:03:49 THANK YOU.
12:03:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN, LUNCH TILL 1:30.
12:04:08 THERE WE GO.
12:04:09 WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 1:30.
12:04:14 [ MEETING IN RECESS ]
12:05:05
13:33:49 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
13:33:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
13:34:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
13:34:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
13:34:05 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
13:34:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 54, FILE DE 1-22-34-C.
13:34:25 >> MOVE TO OPEN.
13:34:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND BY
13:34:32 MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR?
13:34:34 ANY OPPOSED?
13:34:35 THANK YOU.
13:34:35 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
13:34:42 WE ARE HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 54, WHICH IS REGARDING A PETITION
13:34:47 FOR REVIEW THAT WAS FILED FOR DE 1-22-34 FOR THE PROPERTY
13:34:53 LOCATED AT 1417 EAST MOHAWK AVENUE.
13:34:57 THIS PETITION WAS FILED BY GREGORY GARY ON BEHALF OF MOHAWK
13:35:04 LLC.
13:35:05 MR. GARY IS REQUESTING FOR ORIGINALLY REQUESTED FOR DESIGN
13:35:09 EXCEPTION TO ALLOW A LARGE PARKING PAD TO REMAIN IN THE
13:35:14 FRONT YARD AND IN FRONT OF A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE WITHOUT AN
13:35:18 ATTACHED CARPORT OR GARAGE.
13:35:20 STAFF DENIED THE REQUEST ON THE BASIS THAT THE APPLICATION
13:35:23 DID NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF CODE SECTION 27-60 AND
13:35:28 27-211.2.1.
13:35:36 CITY COUNCIL WAS PROVIDED COPIES OF CODE SECTION 27-60,
13:35:42 27-211.2.1 SAMPLE MOTIONS AND RULES OF PROCEDURE.
13:35:49 THE STANDARD FOR REVIEW FOR THIS HEARING IS DE NOVO, AND
13:35:54 THAT'S GOVERNED BY CODE SECTION 27-61 SUBSECTION J-3.
13:35:59 IN A DE NOVO HEARING CITY COUNCIL IS ALLOWED TO ACCEPT NEW
13:36:02 EVIDENCE, TAKE TESTIMONY, PUBLIC TESTIMONY, AND MAKE A
13:36:06 DECISION TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE PETITIONER MEETS
13:36:08 THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN CODE SECTION 27-60, AND
13:36:12 27-211.2.1.
13:36:16 STAFF REMOTELY SHOULD BE ANDY MIKULSKI TO PROVIDE AN
13:36:24 OVERVIEW AND THE DECISION BY STAFF.
13:36:26 AFTER HEARING FROM ALL PARTIES, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE THE
13:36:28 FOLLOWING ACTION:
13:36:30 CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM STAFF'S DECISION AND DENY THE
13:36:32 REQUEST FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION, OR STAFF CAN -- OR CITY
13:36:39 COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN STAFF'S DECISION AND GRANT THE REQUEST
13:36:42 FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.
13:36:45 AND WITH THAT I WILL TURN THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION OVER
13:36:47 TO MR. MIKULSKI.
13:36:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN BEFORE MR. MIKULSKI TALKS, I
13:36:55 WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL TO RECEIVE AND FILE ANY EX PARTE
13:36:58 DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE.
13:37:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
13:37:02 >> SECOND.
13:37:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
13:37:04 AND IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY VERBAL EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS
13:37:07 RELATED TO THIS CASE PLEASE DISCLOSE THAT AT THIS TIME.
13:37:09 THANK YOU.
13:37:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND
13:37:18 BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
13:37:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:37:21 ANY OPPOSED?
13:37:26 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
13:37:32 GO AHEAD, SIR.
13:37:35 YOU ARE MUTED.
13:37:36 >> ANDY MIKULSKI, URBAN DESIGN.
13:37:42 CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME?
13:37:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, THANK YOU.
13:37:45 >> MAY I SHARE THE SCREEN, PLEASE?
13:37:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY, SIR, YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
13:37:50 AND IS EVERYBODY THAT'S GOING TO GIVE ANY KIND OF TESTIMONY,
13:37:53 WILL YOU PLEASE BE SWORN IN.
13:37:55 >>THE CLERK: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN.
13:38:04 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
13:38:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MIKULSKI.
13:38:11 PLEASE PROCEED.
13:38:11 >> CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN?
13:38:26 >> JOSEPH CITRO: YES, BUT THE PowerPoint IS NOT UP.
13:38:29 >> HOW ABOUT NOW?
13:38:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
13:38:31 >> CAN YOU SEE FULL SCREEN OR IS THIS PREVIEW MODE?
13:38:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, IT'S PREVIEW MODE.
13:38:41 THERE.
13:38:41 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
13:38:46 ANDY MIKULSKI, URBAN DESIGN.
13:38:49 I WILL GO OVER THE CASE AT THIS TIME.
13:38:54 APPLICANT, THE AGENT IS GREGORY GARY, 1417 EAST MOHAWK, TO
13:39:02 ALLOW A PAVER PARKING PAD WITHIN THE FRONT YARD OF THE
13:39:05 SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE WITHOUT AN ATTACHED CARPORT OR GARAGE.
13:39:08 THIS IS THE CRITERIA OF REVIEW.
13:39:15 THE DETERMINATION, WE FOUND -- SORRY.
13:39:19 URBAN DESIGN STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND IT WHATS
13:39:22 DETERMINED THE PAVER PARKING PAD AND DRIVEWAY IS
13:39:24 INCONSISTENT WITH 27-211.2-1-C FOOTNOTE 3 WHICH IS BELOW IN
13:39:31 BOLD AND THE DRIVEWAY SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED FROM THE ROAD TO
13:39:35 THE FRONT FACADE OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE AND PROVIDING
13:39:38 VEHICLE ACCESS TO AN ATTACHED GARAGE OR CARPORT OF THE
13:39:41 AND THEN I WILL SKIP THE MIDDLE PART.
13:39:46 THE THREE CRITERIA THAT DID NOT SATISFY THE FIRST EXCEPTION,
13:39:51 INTERFERES WITH THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS, NEIGHBORHOOD
13:39:53 ENHANCEMENT RECEIVED A CODE COMPLAINT ABOUT THE WORK BEING
13:39:56 DONE WITHOUT PERMITS WHICH RESULTED IN THE CITATION.
13:39:58 THE EXCEPTION IS NOT THE MINIMAL POSSIBLE.
13:40:01 WITH PARKING IT IS -- CAN BE ACCOMMODATED TO THE SIDE OR THE
13:40:05 REAR OF THE PARCEL.
13:40:06 THERE'S PAVED ALLEY THAT PROVIDES ACCESS, OR APPLICANT COULD
13:40:12 PROVIDE PARKING ON THE SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE, WHICH THERE IS
13:40:14 ROOM FOR THAT.
13:40:16 THE GRANT WOULD CREATE A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE, OTHERS IN
13:40:22 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ADHERED TO THE CODE AND HAVE NOT DONE WORK
13:40:24 WITHOUT PERMITS.
13:40:26 THEN THE SUBJECT PARCEL.
13:40:30 THE CURRENT ZONING IS SEMINOLE HEIGHTS CI COMMERCIAL
13:40:32 INTENSIVE.
13:40:37 THIS IS THE PICTURE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT OF THE HOUSE
13:40:40 AND THE WORK THAT WAS DONE.
13:40:42 THIS IS ON MOHAWK LOOKING AT THE FRONT.
13:40:47 SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
13:40:55 AND NOW SOME AERIALS.
13:40:56 THIS IS FROM THE SOUTH, SO -- I'M SORRY, FROM THE NORTH
13:41:00 LOOKING TOWARDS THE SOUTH.
13:41:02 YOU CAN SEE THE PAVED ALLEY IN THE REAR.
13:41:04 AND THERE IT IS IN THE REAR.
13:41:10 THIS IS THE REAR AGAIN.
13:41:11 THE REAR YARD FROM A DIFFERENT VIEW.
13:41:15 AND THEN THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE THESE IN THE RECORD OF
13:41:18 ADJACENT STRUCTURES THAT DO HAVE PARKING IN THE FRONT.
13:41:21 IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE WERE BUILT BEFORE THE
13:41:23 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ZONING CODE THAT WAS ENACTED IN 2011.
13:41:26 AND THEN ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION, THIS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
13:41:29 THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO AVOID IS THE PARKING IN FRONT
13:41:32 OF THE STRUCTURE.
13:41:37 AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.
13:41:38 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MYSELF?
13:41:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
13:41:44 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
13:41:45 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE ANY REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE A
13:41:52 GARAGE OR SOME KIND OF OTHER SURFACE IN FRONT?
13:41:57 IT IS PAVERS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE INTERVIEWS OR
13:42:00 NOT.
13:42:01 BUT IF THEY ARE NOT, IS THERE SOME KIND OF EXCEPTION THAT
13:42:04 WILL ALLOW SOME OTHER KIND OF SURFACE THAT'S NOT GRASS IF
13:42:12 THEY DON'T PARK ON IT?
13:42:14 >> WELL, THERE'S AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE REQUIREMENT OF I
13:42:18 BELIEVE IT'S 50%.
13:42:21 SO YOU COULD HAVE IN THE FRONT IF YOU HAVE A PATIO.
13:42:29 WE WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT, IT IS ALLOWED, BUT CLEARLY THIS
13:42:33 WAS APPLIED, THE APPLICATION WAS FOR A PARKING PAD.
13:42:38 WHAT MAKES IT A PARKING PAD ARE THE PAVERS GO TO THE
13:42:41 ROADWAY, SO IF THIS WERE A PATIO, WE WOULD EXPECT IT WOULD
13:42:46 BE SOME KIND OF DELINEATION.
13:42:49 I CAN'T SEE MY MOUSSE CURSOR, BUT SOME SORT OF GRASSED AREA
13:42:53 OR LANDSCAPED AREA THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DRIVE A CAR
13:42:58 THROUGH.
13:42:59 DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
13:43:03 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
13:43:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
13:43:08 OKAY, MR. GARY, YOU HAVE GOT 15 MINUTES.
13:43:11 >> YEAH, I HAVE BEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER THERE FOR 12 YEARS,
13:43:19 AND WE HAVE HAD PREVIOUS TENANTS USING THE PROPERTY, AND
13:43:22 THEY ALWAYS JUST PARKED IN THE FRONT YARD.
13:43:25 I HAVE PHOTOS UP AND DOWN THE WHOLE STREET, HALF THE
13:43:28 NEIGHBORHOOD IS PARKING IN THEIR FRONT YARD.
13:43:32 I'M WEDGED IN BETWEEN TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES, SO THEY ARE
13:43:37 FILLED.
13:43:37 THEY GOT THE WHOLE FRONT ON THAT SIDE AND FRONT OF THIS
13:43:41 SIDE, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THIS.
13:43:45 I CAN SHOW YOU THE PICTURE.
13:43:48 YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF ME.
13:43:53 SO AT NIGHT WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY PARK IN FRONT, THEY ARE
13:43:57 PARKING UP AND DOWN THE STREETS.
13:44:02 THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR HOW THEY ARE PARKING THEIR CARS.
13:44:06 I KNOW IT'S INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL, BUT THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE
13:44:11 DOING, ALL UP AND DOWN THE STREET ON MOHAWK.
13:44:17 AND SOME PEOPLE, I ASKED FOR MAYBE A CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY SO I
13:44:22 COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT THEY SAID I NEED TO HAVE
13:44:25 120 FEET.
13:44:26 I ONLY HAVE LIKE 50 FEET.
13:44:28 SO THESE ARE ALL MOHAWK AVENUE.
13:44:34 THIS IS SURROUNDED WITH TREES.
13:44:37 SO I WANT TO SHOW YOU A PICTURE WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKED
13:44:40 LIKE BEFORE.
13:44:45 I HAVE SPENT AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO TRY TO IMPROVE
13:44:49 IT.
13:44:49 IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE NICEST PROPERTIES ON THE STREET
13:44:52 NOW.
13:44:55 ALL THE NEIGHBORS, I MEAN, THEY ALL LOVE IT.
13:44:59 THEY LOVE THE PROPERTY.
13:45:02 THEY ALL MAKE GREAT COMMENTS ABOUT HOW NICE IT LOOKS.
13:45:05 YOU SEE, THIS IS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE HOW CLEARLY,
13:45:09 BUT THE YARD WAS ALWAYS LIKE MUDDY AND THE TREES WERE ALWAYS
13:45:12 FALLING ON IT.
13:45:13 I MEAN, AND EVERYBODY JUST PULLED INTO THE YARD.
13:45:17 THEY DROVE UP THE CURB AND PARKED ON IT.
13:45:19 IN THE BACK, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, BECAUSE
13:45:26 THE PROPERTY IS COMMERCIAL INTENSE, I HAVE A FENCE ACROSS
13:45:32 THE BACK HERE.
13:45:34 YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A FENCE LYING ACROSS THE BACK.
13:45:37 AND THEN IN THE BACK, I HAD STORAGE, AND I USED THE BARK OF
13:45:40 THE PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
13:45:43 YOU KNOW, FOR WAREHOUSING, STORAGE, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE
13:45:47 THAT.
13:45:48 AND THE FRONT, I USED IT TO SUPPORT THE INCOME.
13:45:55 I HIRED A PAVING COMPANY, AND THEY CAME OUT, AND THEY GRADED
13:46:01 THE PROPERTY, THEY SLOPED EVERYTHING PROPERLY, THEY DID
13:46:04 EVERYTHING, AND THE PAVERS ARE PERVIOUS. IN BETWEEN EACH
13:46:08 PAVER THERE'S A SLOT FOR WATER TO GO DOWN TO RETAIN.
13:46:12 I WENT AHEAD AND ASKED ALL THE NEIGHBORS.
13:46:16 I MEAN, I HAVE, FROM EVERYBODY ON THE STREET, EVERYBODY ON
13:46:20 THE STREET SAID THEY LIKE IT, IT RELIEVES THE PARKING.
13:46:24 I MEAN, EVERY NEIGHBOR AROUND ME, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX SAID
13:46:29 IT'S GREAT, WHAT AN IMPROVEMENT.
13:46:30 I MEAN, IT'S A SHOWCASE PROPERTY ON THE STREET.
13:46:34 I MEAN, IT'S JUST A SMALL BUNGALOW.
13:46:40 AND THE ONLY PERSON THAT CALLED AND COMPLAINED WAS A
13:46:43 DISGRUNTLED WORKER.
13:46:45 I HAD SOME WORKER DOING SOME CLEANING UP, AND I HANDED HIM A
13:46:50 COMPANY CHECK TO PAY HIM, AND HE SAID, I WANT CASH.
13:46:54 I SAID LOOK, WE HAVE TO HAVE A RECORD.
13:46:56 WE GIVE YOU A CHECK.
13:46:57 SO HE SAYS IF I DON'T GIVE CASH I AM GOING TO COMPLAIN, I AM
13:47:00 GOING TO GO TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.
13:47:04 I SAID, YOU KNOW, I SAID OKAY, WHATEVER.
13:47:06 SO TWO DAYS WENT BY AND I MADE ARRANGEMENTS TO GIVE SOME GUY
13:47:10 TO GIVE HIM HIS CASH AND HE ALREADY CALLED A COMPLAINT, AND
13:47:13 CALLED THIS COMPLAINT.
13:47:15 SO, I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY, IT'S BEEN NICE AND
13:47:19 CLEAN.
13:47:19 IT'S EASY TO BLOW THE LEAVES OFF.
13:47:21 THE TENANTS THAT LIVE THERE COULD JUST PULL IN AND PARK,
13:47:25 INSTEAD OF FIGHTING ON THE STREET.
13:47:28 I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS
13:47:31 WHAT EVERYONE'S PROPERTY IS LOOKING LIKE ON THAT STREET.
13:47:35 WITH CARS PARKED ON IT, I MEAN, THIS IS ACCEPTABLE, THIS IS
13:47:43 ACCEPTABLE, HAVE ALL THIS STUFF UP IN THEIR PARKING? SO I
13:47:48 WENT DRIVING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THIS WEEK, AND I TOOK
13:47:52 A LOOK AT ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THAT HAVE PARKING.
13:47:57 I LOOKED AT THIS GUY.
13:47:58 THIS HAS GOT A NICE BEAUTIFUL PARKING PAD.
13:48:01 IT'S VERY MUCH LIKE WHAT I HAVE.
13:48:03 THIS IS ONE.
13:48:06 HERE IS ANOTHER ONE.
13:48:07 THIS IS A WHOLE PARKING PAD IN FRONTS OF THEIR HOUSE.
13:48:11 THEN THIS IS ANOTHER ONE.
13:48:13 I MEAN, I JUST WENT DRIVING AROUND LOOKING AT WHO HAS GOT
13:48:17 THE SAME SITUATION.
13:48:19 SO I KNOW WITH ALL THE CITY CODES, AND BECAUSE THEY CHANGE
13:48:24 THE CODES, AND THEY DO ALL THIS THING BACK AND FORTH, IT
13:48:27 PUTS ALL THESE RESTRICTIONS.
13:48:29 YES, IT WOULD BE PERFECT IF THE PROPERTY WASN'T WEDGED IN
13:48:33 BETWEEN TWO APARTMENT BUILDINGS, AND THE WAY IT'S BUILT, I'M
13:48:40 A COMMERCIAL BUILDING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO COMMERCIAL
13:48:43 COMPLEXES.
13:48:43 SO I DON'T SEE HOW BY ME PAVING THAT FRONT AREA WITH
13:48:48 PERVIOUS PAVING, THOSE BETWEEN ALL THE PAVERS, THAT'S WHERE
13:48:54 WATER GOES IN.
13:48:55 SO WITH ALL THAT, IN FACT, I JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND, AND
13:49:00 STILL THIS WAS THE DRIVEWAY COMING THROUGH HERE GOES THE
13:49:05 DRIVEWAY TO THE BACK.
13:49:08 AND THERE IS GREEN SPACE.
13:49:09 I LEFT GREEN SPACE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE THING.
13:49:16 WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY?
13:49:17 I GUESS I'M ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO BEAR WITH ME, AND TRY TO
13:49:24 LET ME GET THROUGH WITH THIS, BECAUSE WE DID SPEND OVER
13:49:27 $15,000 ON THIS PROPERTY TO TRY TO CLEAN IT UP.
13:49:30 I PAINTED THE BUILDING.
13:49:31 I FIXED EVERYTHING.
13:49:33 AND I WILL LET MY WIFE SPEAK.
13:49:36 SHE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
13:49:37 >> MY NAME IS LYNN, GARY'S WIFE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO STAND
13:49:57 UP FOR HIM, BECAUSE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE
13:50:02 REALLY WORKED VERY HARD TO MAKE THIS PROPERTY LOOK NICE AND
13:50:06 CLEAN, AND YES, I ACTUALLY, LIKE TWO YEARS AGO, BEFORE HE
13:50:14 PAVED THE FRONT YARD, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, ALL MUDDY AND YOU
13:50:18 KNOW THE FLORIDA WEATHER HE R ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER WHEN
13:50:21 THE STORM COMES AND EVERY TIME WE PULLED OVER, A TENANT OR
13:50:27 WHATEVER DO ANYTHING, WE JUST JUMPED OFF THE CURB AND INTO
13:50:32 THE MUD AND MAKING A ROYAL MESS.
13:50:34 AND THEN WE THOUGHT, OKAY, WE CAN'T MAKE IT, YOU KNOW,
13:50:39 BETTER IT WAS NOT OUR INTENTION TO BREAK THE LAW OR
13:50:42 WHATEVER, OUR INTENTION IS JUST VERY SIMPLE, AND, YOU KNOW,
13:50:48 JUST WANT TO MAKE OUR PROPERTY NICE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
13:50:52 AND, YOU KNOW, HE WORKED SO HARD TO PUT THE PAVER IN AND
13:50:58 MAKE SURE THIS PAVER HAS THE SPACE IN BETWEEN AND LET THE
13:51:04 WATER GO IN.
13:51:06 I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE DO APPRECIATE AND RESPECT THE
13:51:11 CITY'S RULE, WHATEVER.
13:51:13 IT WAS NOT OUR INTENTION TO BREAK THE RULE.
13:51:16 BUT AFTER WE SPEND THIS MONEY TO WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAN AND
13:51:23 NICE, AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR FORGIVENESS, YOU
13:51:29 KNOW, TO LET US GO AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
13:51:35 >> GREGORY GARY: I GUESS I AM MISUNDERSTANDING COMMERCIAL
13:51:43 AND INTENSIVE C-1.
13:51:45 WHEN WE GOT THE PROPERTY IT'S ALL COMMERCIAL.
13:51:47 SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT RULES FIT WITH COMMERCIAL.
13:51:51 AND I GUESS EITHER WAY, I MEAN, I WENT AHEAD.
13:51:55 I GOT MOST ALL THE NEIGHBORS, LIKE YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL THE
13:52:00 ADDRESSES ALL SURROUNDING MY HOUSE.
13:52:02 ALL OF THEM, YOU KNOW, SAY THAT IT'S MUCH BETTER THAN
13:52:06 PARKING ON THE GRASS.
13:52:06 I MEAN, IF TAKING UP THE PAVERS AND GRASS DOESN'T GROW
13:52:11 THERE, BECAUSE OF THE TREES ALL COVER IT, IT JUST DOESN'T
13:52:15 GROW.
13:52:15 AND THEN THEY START DRIVING ON IT.
13:52:17 I MEAN, IF I PICK UP THE PAVERS IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AN
13:52:20 EYESORE THERE AGAIN.
13:52:26 SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE -- WHERE ARE THESE PICTURES?
13:52:31 I MEAN, THIS IS JUST RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM ME.
13:52:35 YOU LET THAT EXIST, AND THAT'S -- THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PAVERS
13:52:39 THERE, BUT STILL.
13:52:40 AND THEN THE CARS ARE ALL PARKED LIKE PARKED ON THIS STREET.
13:52:46 SO I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
13:52:48 THE PROBLEM IS I HAD THE THING PAVED FOR ABOUT A YEAR UNTIL
13:52:51 THIS GUY COMPLAINED.
13:52:52 SO THERE WAS NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE PROPERTY.
13:52:55 I KNOW CODE ENFORCEMENT DOESN'T COME OUT UNLESS SOMEBODY
13:52:58 COMPLAINS.
13:52:59 BUT IT WASN'T A NEIGHBOR.
13:53:03 SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HELP ME.
13:53:06 I MEAN, I AM PRETTY MUCH -- I CIRCLED THE WHOLE
13:53:10 NEIGHBORHOOD.
13:53:11 YOU WENT THROUGH.
13:53:12 I ACCEPTABILITY EVERYBODY THE MONEY.
13:53:13 I SENT IN THE MONEY FOR THE PERMIT.
13:53:16 I SENT IN FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.
13:53:19 WE DO HAVE BEEN A LARGE PERVIOUS AREA IN THE BACK.
13:53:22 WE SHOWED YOU ON THE SITE PLAN THAT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY
13:53:25 IS ALL PERVIOUS, ALL BACK THERE.
13:53:28 SO THAT'S 50% OF THE LOT HAS GRASS.
13:53:32 SO, I MEAN, THERE'S PLENTY OF AREA FOR RAIN TO GO FOR THAT
13:53:36 PROPERTY.
13:53:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DOES THAT FINISH YOUR PRESENTATION?
13:53:41 >> I DON'T KNOW.
13:53:44 I JUST HOPE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND MY POINT OF VIEW.
13:53:46 IF YOU JUST LOOK AT LIKE I SAID, I'M WEDGED IN BETWEEN TWO
13:53:50 APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
13:53:51 THEY ARE PARK ALL IN FRONT OF THE PLACE, AND IT'S -- WELL,
13:53:57 YOU SEE IT.
13:54:00 WEDGED IN BETWEEN THE APARTMENTS.
13:54:01 SO WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
13:54:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
13:54:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST HAD A QUESTION.
13:54:07 YOU HAD MENTIONED THE PAVERS AND THE CRACKS IN BETWEEN
13:54:10 ENOUGH FOR THE WATER.
13:54:12 BUT DURING A VERY HARD RAINFALL DOES WATER EVER POOL, DOES
13:54:16 IT EVER FLOOD?
13:54:17 >> NEVER.
13:54:19 NO, NEVER.
13:54:20 BEFORE IT WAS JUST ONE BIG MUD PUDDLE.
13:54:22 BUT NOW EVERYTHING FLOWS PERFECTLY DOWN THE STREET IN THE
13:54:27 PAVERS THROUGH THE YARD AND THAT'S IT.
13:54:28 IT DOESN'T FLOOD AT ALL.
13:54:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND YOUR NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET
13:54:32 FROM THAT PHOTO YOU SHOWED OF THE FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, THEY
13:54:35 HAVE THE SAME KIND OF PAVERS OR SIMILAR TYPE PAVERS FOR THE
13:54:39 DRIVEWAY?
13:54:40 >> THE NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET HAS THAT CIRCULAR
13:54:43 DRIVEWAY.
13:54:45 THEY HAVE A CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY.
13:54:46 AND THEN THE OTHER NEIGHBORS ARE JUST PULLING UP ON THE
13:54:49 YARDS.
13:54:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SIGNATURES OF ALL
13:54:52 THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS?
13:54:53 >> YES, I DO.
13:54:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
13:54:56 >> AND I CAN GET MORE.
13:54:58 I DIDN'T WANT TO -- EVERYBODY I STOPPED AT EVERYBODY'S
13:55:01 HOUSE, I WENT BACK AND FORTH AFTER WORK, IN THE MORNING, I
13:55:04 TOOK PICTURES UP AND DOWN THE STREET, I HAVE ABOUT 60
13:55:07 PICTURES HERE ON MY PHONE, I CAN SHOW YOU DIFFERENT TIMES OF
13:55:12 THE DAY WHERE ALL THE CARS ARE PARKED.
13:55:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, THANK YOU.
13:55:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
13:55:17 I AM JUST GOING BY WHAT THE PETITIONER SAID.
13:55:26 ON GRAY STREET, ONE BLOCK WEST OF DALE MABRY, AND THEY HAVE
13:55:31 DONE THE SAME THING, AND THE CITY, HAD THEM TAKE ALL THE
13:55:36 PAVERS ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OUT.
13:55:37 I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT I KNOW, WHAT I HAVE SEEN.
13:55:40 AND THE BUILDINGS THAT YOU IDENTIFIED ON BOTH SIDES THAT ARE
13:55:44 COMMERCIAL, THEY WERE BUILT OR CONSTRUCTED OR WHATEVER YOU
13:55:48 WANT TO CALL IT PRIOR TO 2011 WHEN THE NEW LAW CAME INTO
13:55:52 EFFECT.
13:55:52 THAT'S WHAT I READ INTO THE RECORD.
13:55:54 AND YOU SAID YOU HAD A PERMIT FOR THIS?
13:56:00 >> I SAID, NO I WENT TRYING TO PERMIT IT, AFTER THE FACT
13:56:04 PERMIT IT.
13:56:06 AND THEN THEY WOULDN'T ACCEPT IT.
13:56:07 SO THEN I WENT TO THE DESIGN EXCEPTION, WHICH I ACQUIRED FOR
13:56:13 THAT PERMIT.
13:56:14 THEN I WENT THROUGH I GUESS ANOTHER PROCESS WHERE THEY
13:56:17 FAILED ME, AND THEN I CAME BACK, AND NOW I APPEALED IT
13:56:20 HOPING THAT PEOPLE HEAR WOULD JUST KIND OF FEEL MY SIDE.
13:56:25 AND I KNOW THE CITY PASSES THESE RULES, AND WE ARE GOING TO
13:56:30 BLANKET, THIS IS TOUCHDOWN OR WHATEVER, EVERYTHING IS GOING
13:56:33 TO BE LIKE THIS.
13:56:34 BUT SOMETIMES IT'S NOT ALWAYS PRACTICAL FOR EVERY DWELLING.
13:56:39 AND THEN WE GET A VARIANCE.
13:56:41 YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME LEEWAY TO WORK WITH YOU.
13:56:44 AND I AM KIND OF ASKING THE SAME THING HERE.
13:56:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THEN.
13:56:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND THEN YOU SEWED YOU HAVE A RENTAL?
13:56:52 >> YES, A RENTAL PROPERTY.
13:56:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU HAVE A RENTAL CERTIFICATE?
13:56:56 >> I THINK WE DO.
13:56:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.
13:57:03 >> THE TENANT WAS THERE FOR EIGHT YEARS, SINCE 2000.
13:57:09 I GOT THE BUILDING IN 2011 ACTUALLY WHEN THEY CHANGED THE
13:57:12 CODE THING.
13:57:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IN A RENTAL
13:57:18 PROPERTY VERSUS A PROPERTY, YOUR TAXES ARE DIFFERENT.
13:57:20 THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO TELL YOU.
13:57:22 I AM NOT TRYING TO IN ANY WAY --
13:57:25 >> NO, NO, NO, WE WANT TO COMPLY WITH THAT.
13:57:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT.
13:57:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
13:57:35 ANYTHING ELSE THAT STAFF WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
13:57:37 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
13:57:43 I JUST WANT TO BE JUST DISTINGUISH CITY COUNCIL, SOME OF THE
13:57:48 PHOTOGRAPHS THAT THE PETITIONER DID EXHIBIT TO SHOW TO CITY
13:57:53 COUNCIL, SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES DID HAVE GARAGES, AND SOME
13:57:57 OF THOSE HAD CARPORTS, WHICH IS THE REQUIREMENT NEEDED IN
13:58:00 ORDER FOR PAVERS TO BE ON THE PROPERTY.
13:58:06 I DID WANT TO DISTINGUISH THAT.
13:58:10 I DID WANT TO DISTINGUISH THAT.
13:58:15 IF I MAY JUST FINISH MY STATEMENT.
13:58:18 I JUST WANTED TO DISTINGUISH THE CRITERIA IN THE CODE, AND
13:58:24 STAFF AGAIN CAN EXPLAIN THE CODE PROVISION THAT THIS
13:58:28 APPLICATION DOES NOT MEET AND WHY STAFF DENIED IT AND
13:58:32 DISTINGUISH IT FROM THE OTHER PHOTOGRAPHS THAT THE
13:58:35 PETITIONER HAS PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL.
13:58:38 AND I AM SURE STAFF, MR. MIKULSKI, CAN DISTINGUISH THAT
13:58:43 CRITERIA OF THE CODE AND WHY THIS APPLICATION WAS DENIED.
13:58:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MIKULSKI, ARE YOU THERE?
13:58:55 YOU WILL HAVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
13:58:56 >> SORRY.
13:58:58 >> I'M HERE, AND CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
13:59:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
13:59:04 >> AND YOU CAN SEE THE PowerPoint, ZONING DETERMINATION?
13:59:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
13:59:12 >> THIS IS THE CONCEPTION THAT CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE WAS
13:59:17 JUST REFERRING TO.
13:59:18 NO DRIVEWAY SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED FROM THE CODE TO THE FACADE
13:59:23 OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE UNLESS PROVIDING VEHICULAR ACCESS
13:59:27 TO AN ATTACHED GARAGE OR CARPORT.
13:59:28 THE INTENT OF THIS CODE, IF YOU DID HAVE A DRIVEWAY THAT IT
13:59:32 WOULD ACTUALLY TERMINATE IN A CARPORT OR A GARAGE.
13:59:35 SO IF THERE IS A GARAGE OR CARPORT HERE, TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY
13:59:41 OR WHATEVER SIDE THAT WE ARE ON.
13:59:43 BUT THE INTENT IS, THIS CODE, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE PARKING
13:59:48 IN FRONT OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
13:59:55 IT'S TRYING TO INCREASE THE WALKABILITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
13:59:57 AND HAVING VEHICLES IN THE FRONT IS KIND OF DETRIMENTAL TO
14:00:01 THAT FEELING OF PEDESTRIAN COMFORT.
14:00:04 I KNOW THERE'S EXISTING STRUCTURES HERE THAT HAVE PARKING
14:00:07 ISSUES, BUT THAT'S WHY THIS CODE PROVISION WAS ENACTED.
14:00:11 IT'S TO STOP DOING THIS.
14:00:15 AND IF IT'S EXISTING, YOU KNOW, WE DO GRANT LEEWAY TO
14:00:18 EXISTING STRUCTURES.
14:00:23 YOU KNOW, IF NOT DOING WORK OR MAJOR RENOVATIONS WE ARE NOT
14:00:28 GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE COME BACK AND RETROFIT THEIR HOUSE TO
14:00:33 MEET THE NEW CODE.
14:00:34 BUT IF THEY ARE ABOVE THE 50% THRESHOLD WE DO REQUIRE THEM
14:00:39 TO COMPLY WITH THE CODE.
14:00:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:00:41 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
14:00:45 COMMENTS?
14:00:47 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
14:00:49 MR. GARY, YOU HAVE GOT TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
14:00:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. GARY, DID YOU WANT TO PUT THOSE
14:00:55 PHOTOGRAPHS INTO THE RECORD?
14:00:56 >> YES, I WILL PUT THE PHOTOGRAPHS INTO THE RECORD.
14:00:59 I GUESS WE DO HAVE THE GARAGE IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY
14:01:02 THERE, SO -- THE GARAGE.
14:01:10 AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND, IF I CAN MAKE A CARPORT, BUT, I
14:01:16 MEAN, THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THAT THE WORK IS DONE, I MEAN,
14:01:20 I HAVE TRIED EVERY WAY TO MAKE IT LEGAL AND TO ACTUALLY TAKE
14:01:25 IT APART AND RUIN THE PROPERTY JUST SEEMS UNFAIR BECAUSE OF
14:01:29 THIS SITUATION.
14:01:30 UM RIGHT BETWEEN THE TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES, AND THEY ARE
14:01:33 MONOPOLIZING THE PARKING.
14:01:35 AND THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THE TENANTS CAN JUST COME IN AND
14:01:39 PARK, THREE CARS IN THE FRONT, THAT'S IT OF THE
14:01:42 AND YOU CAN'T PARK IN THE DRIVEWAY BECAUSE THEN IT BLOCKS
14:01:45 ANY PARKING TO THE BACK TO THE STORAGE.
14:01:48 SO, I MEAN, WE ARE NOT HURTING ANYBODY.
14:01:53 I MEAN, WE ARE NOT UPSETTING THE WHOLE RULE.
14:01:58 IF WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF SWANN AVENUE -- NOT SWANN, LET'S
14:02:02 SAY YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF, I DON'T KNOW, PARKLAND
14:02:04 ESTATES, OR BEACH PARK, AND I DID SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YES,
14:02:10 THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO FIT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
14:02:12 BUT THIS IS A COMMERCIAL STREET.
14:02:14 IT'S A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
14:02:15 IT'S ON BACK OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
14:02:17 I MEAN, THIS THING ABOUT WALKING PEDESTRIANS, WALKING DOWN
14:02:21 THE STREET, THEY ARE WALKING UP AND DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE
14:02:24 STREET.
14:02:25 THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS ON THAT STREET.
14:02:26 IF THEY WANT -- THEY DON'T PUT ANY SIDEWALK THERE.
14:02:30 SO, I MEAN, THIS IS NOT A PLANNED DEVELOPED NEIGHBORHOOD.
14:02:34 THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN HERE SINCE THE 1920s.
14:02:38 YOU HAVE 50-FOOT FRONT -- THERE'S NO ROOM.
14:02:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DOES THAT END YOUR REBUTTAL?
14:02:48 >> WELL, THE REBUTTAL IS I JUST WISH YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND
14:02:51 AND GRANT ME THIS SIMPLE OKAY.
14:02:53 IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.
14:02:54 AND I'M HAPPY AND NOBODY CARES.
14:02:59 NOBODY IS GOING TO GO THROUGH FIGHTING THIS WHOLE ISSUE.
14:03:03 AM I RIGHT?
14:03:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT THE END OF YOUR REBUTTAL?
14:03:07 >> AND I GOT ALL MY NEIGHBORS TO SIGN.
14:03:10 THEY LIKE IT.
14:03:11 OKAY, THAT'S IT.
14:03:12 THAT'S THE END.
14:03:13 GIVE ME THE VERDICT.
14:03:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
14:03:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
14:03:19 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:03:20 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
14:03:21 ANY OPPOSED?
14:03:25 MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
14:03:26 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
14:03:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
14:03:30 OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL, I MOVE TO
14:03:36 OVERTURN STAFF'S DENIAL DESIGN EXCEPTION APPLICATION
14:03:39 D-1-22-34 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1417 EAST MOHAWK
14:03:44 AVENUE BECAUSE THE GENERAL STANDARDS SHOULD BE WAIVED AS SET
14:03:48 FORTH IN SECTION 27-60 AND 27-211.2.1-C.
14:03:57 THE GENTLEMAN HAS ALREADY STATED HIS CASE, AND HAS SUPPORT
14:04:02 FROM I THINK QUITE A FEW NEIGHBORS SURROUNDING.
14:04:08 YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL NEXT DOOR.
14:04:10 I SEE WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKED LIKE BEFORE, AND THAT'S WHY I
14:04:14 ASKED YOU IF THERE'S ANY FLOODING.
14:04:16 YOU IMPROVED THE PROPERTY IN MY OPINION.
14:04:18 FOR THAT REASON AND THOSE REASONS, I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE
14:04:22 DENIAL.
14:04:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
14:04:26 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:04:28 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?
14:04:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCILMEMBER
14:04:37 MANISCALCO SAID AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:04:41 HOWEVER, JUST BY THE EXPERIENCE OF KNOWING WHAT HAPPENED ON
14:04:44 GRAY STREET AND OTHERS, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
14:04:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
14:04:52 ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:04:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
14:04:56 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:04:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:05:00 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:05:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:05:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:05:04 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO AND
14:05:07 HURTAK BEING ABSENT.
14:05:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:05:09 >> SO THAT'S IT?
14:05:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONGRATULATIONS.
14:05:15 >> OH, THANK YOU, PEOPLE.
14:05:17 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
14:05:22 SO YOU STILL WANT THESE FOR THE RECORD?
14:05:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:05:25 >> THANK YOU.
14:05:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM 55, CANNOT BE
14:05:43 HEARD.
14:05:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
14:05:47 MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO REMOVE ITEM
14:05:50 NUMBER 55 WHICH IS FILE SU-1-22-19-C.
14:06:00 ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:06:01 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:06:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:06:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:06:12 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:06:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:06:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:06:15 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
14:06:18 ABSENT.
14:06:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:06:20 NEXT WILL BE AGENDA 58, PW-22-74238.
14:06:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
14:06:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
14:06:39 ITEM 58.
14:06:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
14:06:42 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:06:45 ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:06:45 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:06:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:06:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:06:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:06:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:06:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:06:55 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
14:06:57 ABSENT.
14:06:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM NUMBER 59.
14:06:59 >> SO MOVED.
14:07:01 >> SECOND.
14:07:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: E-2022-16.
14:07:05 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
14:07:07 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:07:08 ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:07:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:07:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:07:13 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:07:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:07:15 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:07:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:07:17 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
14:07:20 ABSENT.
14:07:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NUMBER 63, CM 22-73829.
14:07:30 >>MORRIS MASSEY: ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY IN CONNECTION WITH
14:07:39 ITEM 63.
14:07:40 WE PREPARED A MEMO, THE WAY THE NAMING POLICY FOR STREET
14:07:46 RENAMING WORKS IT'S HONORARY, ANYWAY, IS THAT REAL ESTATE IS
14:07:51 SUPPOSED TO BE GATHERING INFORMATION ABOUT THE PERSON, AND
14:07:54 THEN PROCESSING A RECOMMENDATION.
14:07:56 SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE MATTER IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
14:08:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:08:03 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY IN THE BACK OF THE TERMS
14:08:10 IT SAYS EXECUTIVE ORDER BY THE MAYOR WHICH SUMMARIZES THE
14:08:12 CONCLUSIONS OF HER TASK FORCE, BUT IN THE WHEREAS CLAUSE, IT
14:08:16 SAYS WHEREAS THE MAYOR BY CHARTER HAS THE RIGHT TO OVERSEE
14:08:21 FACILITIES OF THE CITY AND NAMING.
14:08:24 I JUST WANT TO SAY I STRONGLY OBJECT TO THAT, AND IT'S
14:08:28 SOMETHING MAYBE WE CAN CLEAN UP IN THE CHARTER.
14:08:30 BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CHARTER SPECIFICALLY THAT GIVES
14:08:32 THE MAYOR THE RIGHT TO NAME THE NAMED BUILDINGS SO I WOULD
14:08:38 SUGGEST THE MAYOR RESCIND THE EXECUTIVE ORDER AND REPLACE IT
14:08:41 WITH ONE THAT DOESN'T STATE SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE IS AN
14:08:45 INACCURATE INTERPRETATION OF THE CHARTER.
14:08:47 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I UNDERSTAND.
14:08:51 IF WE REVIEWED THE CHARTER AND THE EXECUTIVE ORDER AND SHE
14:08:55 HAS CONTROL OVER ALL FACILITIES SO INHERENT IN THAT IS THE
14:08:59 NAMING AND THAT'S --
14:09:01 >>BILL CARLSON: I UNDERSTAND.
14:09:06 IT WILL BE PRESENTED TO ALL OF US AND LOOK AT IT.
14:09:09 THANK YOU.
14:09:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:09:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE] THEY HAVE THE ABILITY
14:09:16 TO DO THAT.
14:09:18 THEN IT'S APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.
14:09:20 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THINGS GET NAMED IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
14:09:27 STREETS ARE TYPICALLY DONE BY PLAT.
14:09:29 SO THE PLATS COME BEFORE YOU FOR BEING NAMED.
14:09:32 ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES ESPECIALLY WITH STREET RENAMING IS
14:09:35 THAT OFFICIALLY RENAMING STREETS IS BECOMING A REAL PROBLEM
14:09:39 FROM A DELIVERY OF SERVICES, 911, SO IF YOU START RENAMING
14:09:45 STREETS, THEN YOU ARE CAUSING EVERYBODY ALL THE RESIDENTS
14:09:48 THAT LIVE ON THAT STREET TO CHANGE THEIR ADDRESS, THEN YOU
14:09:50 HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT AND U.S.
14:09:53 MAIL SERVICE AND EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS THAT THE STREET NAME IS
14:09:57 DIFFERENT.
14:09:57 SO THAT CREATES A LOT OF CONFUSION.
14:09:59 SO WE HAVE BEEN ASKED BY THE 911 SERVICES REALLY TO AVOID
14:10:06 OFFICIAL STREET RENAMINGS, BUT STREET NAMES TYPICALLY COME
14:10:11 TO YOU BY WAY OF THE SUBDIVISION PLAT.
14:10:14 SO THE HONORARY NAMING IS WHAT THIS IS.
14:10:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DEMAND GUDES.
14:10:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, AND A COUPLE OF
14:10:27 PASTORS THAT PASSED AWAY, AND THAT SERVED THAT SCHOOL AND
14:10:31 EVERYBODY KNOWS ST. PETER CLEAVER.
14:10:37 AND THAT'S WHAT I AM ASKING NOW, THE STAFF GO OUT AND GET
14:10:42 THAT DONE, BRING IT BACK.
14:10:46 >>MORRIS MASSEY: AND HAS BEEN DIRECTED TO DO THAT.
14:10:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS YVONNE FORT ANY RELATION?
14:10:54 THAT'S HIS WIFE?
14:10:55 VERY WELL KNOWN INDIVIDUAL.
14:10:57 AND WE KNOW THE STORY.
14:10:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:11:06 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS MY SECOND BITE AT THIS.
14:11:09 WE HAVE SEEN THINGS SLIPPED IN BY THE LAST ADMINISTRATION
14:11:11 THAT TOOK AWAY THE POWERS AND RIGHTS OF CITY COUNCIL AND
14:11:14 THIS IS AN EXAMPLE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION OF EXCERPTING, I
14:11:17 THINK, INACCURATELY EXERTING AUTHORITY OVER THIS.
14:11:21 AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL OF IT AND WE ARE OBVIOUSLY
14:11:25 GOING TO NEED TO IMPACT THE CHARTER.
14:11:28 THE WORK OF THE TASK FORCE WAS IT APPEARED TO BE GOOD, AND
14:11:31 THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE GOOD, BUT SAYING THAT CITY COUNCIL
14:11:35 HAS NO EVEN APPROVAL AUTHORITY, WE -- BY THE WAY THAT
14:11:40 WHEREAS JUST IN THREE OR FOUR WORDS IN THE WHEREAS CLAUSE WE
14:11:42 HAVE NO APPROVAL EVEN OF THESE CHANGES.
14:11:44 AND I THINK THAT IT'S AN OVERREACH.
14:11:47 WHETHER IT WAS INTENTIONAL TO TRY TO TAKE AWAY RIGHTS OF
14:11:50 CITY COUNCIL OR NOT, I WOULD REMIND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
14:11:53 OFFICE THAT CITY ATTORNEY THE WAY THE CHARTER IS WRITTEN NOW
14:11:56 HAS THREE CLIENTS, THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, AND THE CITY OF
14:11:58 TAMPA.
14:12:00 AND IF THERE'S A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE INTERPRETATION FOR THE
14:12:06 MAYOR VERSUS THE INTERPRETATION FOR COUNCIL, I WOULD SUGGEST
14:12:08 THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SEEK ADVICE AND INPUT FROM
14:12:15 THE OTHER CLIENT WHICH IS CITY COUNCIL, AND MAYBE EVEN FROM
14:12:17 THE PUBLIC AS TO WHAT THE INTERPRETATION OF THE CHARTER
14:12:21 SHOULD BE, OR THAT WE TRY TO CLARIFY IT, AND WE SHOULD NOT
14:12:24 JUST AUTOMATICALLY TO ONE OR THE OTHER.
14:12:28 IF IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND WHERE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY
14:12:31 WAS TRYING TO TAKE AWAY POWER FROM THE MAYOR, WE WOULD HEAR
14:12:34 FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT BUT
14:12:37 IN THIS CASE IT WAS KIND OF SLID INTO THE WHEREAS CLAUSE.
14:12:40 SO I WOULD ASK THAT EVERYBODY BE CAUTIOUS AND PARTICULARLY
14:12:42 THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHICH BY FLORIDA BAR RULES HAS AN
14:12:45 OBLIGATION TO ADHERE TO ITS RESPONSIBILITIES REGARDING ITS
14:12:50 CLIENT CITY COUNCIL.
14:12:51 THANK YOU.
14:12:51 >>MORRIS MASSEY: QUICKLY, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN,
14:12:56 AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO AN ARGUMENT OVER IT.
14:12:59 THE WAY WE SEE THIS, WE REPRESENT THE CITY AS A CORPORATE
14:13:02 ENTITY, SO WE REPRESENT, YES, WE REPRESENT THE CITY AS A
14:13:05 WHOLE AND WE TRY TO INTERPRET THE CHARTER AND THE LAW IN
14:13:09 ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE CORRECT LEGAL
14:13:11 INTERPRETATION.
14:13:12 WE UNDERSTAND TO DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU.
14:13:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MASSEY, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
14:13:23 I THINK MR. CARLSON HAS BROUGHT UP A POINT, SO HOPEFULLY YOU
14:13:27 CAN GET BACK A BETTER INTERPRETATION WITH WHAT HE'S ASKING
14:13:31 FOR, GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE DO HAVE A CHARTER
14:13:36 MEETING I THINK YOU CAN LOOK AT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
14:13:39 INTERPRETATION SOMETIMES, THERE IS A CONFLICT WITH THE
14:13:41 ADMINISTRATION AND THIS COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WE SAY THAT THE
14:13:45 CHARTER SAYS AND CITY ATTORNEY WILL BE THE CATCH-ALL TO BE
14:13:48 THAT, BUT SOMETIMES IT WOULD STILL BE BUTTING OF HEADS.
14:13:53 SO I AM HOPING WHEN WE DO MEET AND LOOK AT HOW WE GO FORWARD
14:13:56 WHEN THAT DOES HAPPEN, HOW IT CAN BE INTERPRETED WHATEVER
14:14:01 VERBIAGE WE HAVE AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE.
14:14:04 WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR THAT.
14:14:06 BUT THANK YOU.
14:14:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
14:14:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
14:14:12 IF THE CITY COUNCIL WERE TO EXPRESS A REQUEST OF THE MAYOR
14:14:15 IN TERMS OF THE EXECUTIVE ORDER TO THE POINT THAT COUNCILMAN
14:14:19 MIRANDA SUGGESTED, IT WOULD SHOW PERHAPS ON THE CONSENT
14:14:24 DOCKET, IS THAT A POSSIBLE THING TO REQUEST AND LOOK INTO
14:14:31 IT, IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
14:14:33 I AM NOT SAYING THAT IS.
14:14:34 BUT I AM JUST ASKING.
14:14:35 >>MORRIS MASSEY: AGAIN, THE WAY THIS WAS SET UP WAS -- A
14:14:42 LOT OF THESE REQUESTS COME IN NOT ONLY FROM COUNCIL BUT FROM
14:14:46 INDIVIDUALS, SO THERE IS SOME BASELINE RULES THAT EVERYONE
14:14:49 HAS TO ABIDE WITH.
14:14:51 THERE'S A PROCESS, AND THE WAY THESE REQUESTS WERE BEING
14:14:57 DONE, IT WAS NOT, IT WAS AD HOC HERE, AD HOC THERE,
14:15:01 DIFFERENT RULES APPLIED TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE, SO THIS WAS AN
14:15:04 EFFORT TO COME UP WITH A RULE, SO THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE
14:15:09 OFFICER OF THE CITY WHO HAS CONTROL OVER THE NAMING OF A
14:15:12 FACILITY, GENERALLY, THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH A PROCESS,
14:15:16 AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS SET UP THE WAY IT WAS SET UP.
14:15:19 AND CAN WE ENTERTAIN POSSIBLE CHANGES?
14:15:21 I AM NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, BUT THAT'S THE
14:15:24 RATIONAL BEHIND THE EXECUTIVE ORDER.
14:15:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY.
14:15:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT, AN ATTORNEY MYSELF, AND NOT
14:15:35 UNDERSTANDING EVERYTHING ATTORNEYS SAY SOMETIMES, WHAT YOU
14:15:37 ARE TRYING TO SAY IS THE CITY HAS ABOUT 2,000 BLOCKS OR
14:15:41 STREETS AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS A SIGN COMING UP TOMORROW, NO,
14:15:47 THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
14:15:48 THAT'S WHAT HE'S TRYING TO SAY, I GUESS.
14:15:50 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT'S WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY.
14:15:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY.
14:15:57 MR. SHELBY.
14:16:00 AGENDA ITEM 64.
14:16:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
14:16:03 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
14:16:05 COUNCIL, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO COUNCIL BECAUSE I WAS
14:16:10 PREPARED TO DO A VERBAL REPORT, BUT I BELIEVE AFTER TALKING
14:16:16 WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ON SHORT NOTICE THAT THAT'S
14:16:18 INAPPROPRIATE, AND IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO COME BACK
14:16:22 AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SUBMITTING A WRITTEN
14:16:27 MEMORANDUM AND HAVE IT GONE BY THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ADDRESS
14:16:33 SOME ISSUES THAT SHE AND I DISCUSSED FRANKLY OVER LUNCH,
14:16:37 UNFORTUNATELY.
14:16:38 AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
14:16:39 BUT I JUST WANT TO ASK THE COUNCIL'S INDULGENCE TO BE ABLE
14:16:43 TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING WRITTEN
14:16:45 IN ADVANCE SO YOU CAN HAVE IT AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN HAVE
14:16:47 IT.
14:16:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT DATE ARE YOU ASKING FOR?
14:16:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WAS LOOKING AT THE 19th BUT THEN I
14:16:55 JUST WANT TO BE READY FOR THE CHARTER WORKSHOP ON THE
14:16:58 23rd.
14:16:58 SO IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, THE 19th OR THE 26th IF
14:17:03 COUNCIL WOULD DO SO.
14:17:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION THAT MR. SHELBY RETURN WITH A
14:17:09 WRITTEN REPORT UNDER STAFF REPORTS MAY 19th, 2022.
14:17:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
14:17:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED
14:17:22 BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:17:24 ANY DISCUSSION?
14:17:24 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY ALSO, BY THE WAY, MY OBJECTION
14:17:33 TO THE LAST THING WAS NOT THE ADVICE FROM THE COMMITTEE.
14:17:36 THE ADVICE FROM THE COMMITTEE WAS FINE.
14:17:37 IT WAS THE THREE WORDS THAT YOU PURPOSE CONTROL BY THE
14:17:42 MAYOR'S OFFICE OVER NAMING OF BUILDINGS. IN THIS CASE, IT
14:17:45 APPEARS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS TRYING TO
14:17:47 SUPERSEDE THE POWERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, AND WE
14:17:52 CERTAINLY WOULD NOT TRY TO DOUGH THAT IN THE OTHER
14:17:54 DIRECTION.
14:17:55 BUT CITY COUNCIL HAS EVERY RIGHT TO ASK ITS ATTORNEY TO
14:18:01 DEVELOP ORDINANCES OR REPORTS.
14:18:02 IN FACT, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS INSISTED ON THAT
14:18:07 MANY TIMES LATELY AND TRIED TO ABSOLVE THEMSELVES OF ANY
14:18:10 KIND OF WORK WITH CITY COUNCIL EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE
14:18:12 OBLIGATED TO BY THE CHARTER.
14:18:14 SO I WOULD REMIND CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AGAIN THAT ONE OF
14:18:17 THE CLIENTS BY CHARTER UNLESS THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT, ONE OF
14:18:20 THEIR CLIENTS IS CITY COUNCIL AND THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION BY
14:18:22 FLORIDA BAR RECALLS TO WORK IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THEIR
14:18:25 CLIENT.
14:18:25 THEY DON'T REPRESENT US INDIVIDUALLY, BUT AS A BODY THEY DO.
14:18:28 AND THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO REPRESENT US AND TO WORK WITH
14:18:32 OUR ATTORNEY WHO IS SET UP BY CHARTER AS WELL.
14:18:36 THANK YOU.
14:18:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO THAT POINT, THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE
14:18:40 ISSUES THAT IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY THAT I HAD NOT DONE THAT
14:18:43 IN ADVANCE OF TODAY'S MEETING.
14:18:44 SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.
14:18:47 SO I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.
14:18:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:18:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THE MOTION WAS FOR YOU TO COME
14:18:54 BACK TO GIVE A PRESENTATION IN REFERENCE TO THAT.
14:18:59 VERBALLY OR WRITTEN.
14:19:00 BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
14:19:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WAS.
14:19:04 BUT IN TALKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND I DON'T DISAGREE,
14:19:08 THAT THE BETTER PROTOCOL WITH REGARD TO THIS OPINION WOULD
14:19:12 BE IN WRITING.
14:19:14 SO I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING THAT TODAY.
14:19:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE STILL HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
14:19:22 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
14:19:23 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:19:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:19:29 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:19:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:19:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:19:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:19:34 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
14:19:36 ABSENT.
14:19:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:19:38 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 65.
14:19:43 FILE CM 22-73220.
14:19:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, 65 AND 64 COINCIDE.
14:19:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:20:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY HAS NOT HAD HIS REPORT.
14:20:05 I PREFER BOTH THESE ITEMS BE HEARD AT THE SAME TIME TO
14:20:08 COINCIDE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.
14:20:11 I JUST THINK THAT -- I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT THE
14:20:23 CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY HAS TO SAY AND THE CITY ATTORNEY AT
14:20:25 THE SAME TIME.
14:20:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT YOUR MOTION?
14:20:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
14:20:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THIS MOTION, IT SAID THESE
14:20:33 ARE DIRECTORS AND OFFICERS INSURANCE.
14:20:36 BUT AS I RECALL THAT WASN'T THE PROPER TERM.
14:20:38 WHAT IS THE PROPER TERM?
14:20:39 >> IT'S PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES LIABILITY COVERAGE.
14:20:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES LIABILITY
14:20:48 COVERAGE.
14:20:50 DID YOU WANT TO AMEND THAT MOTION TO REFLECT IT ACCURATELY?
14:20:56 OR IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE REALLY.
14:20:59 DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE, OKAY.
14:21:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SECOND HIS MOTION.
14:21:03 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION?
14:21:04 CHIEF OF STAFF LAST TIME SEEMED TO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT
14:21:07 LIABILITY OF THE CITY AND THE COST OF LIABILITY, AND
14:21:10 ALTHOUGH I WOULD RATHER HAVE IT FOR CITY ELECTED OFFICIALS
14:21:13 AND EMPLOYEES, AT THE VERY LEAST WE NEED IT FOR ELECTED
14:21:18 OFFICIALS.
14:21:19 SO WHETHER WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN THE MOTION OR NOT, I THINK
14:21:22 THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
14:21:24 AND LAST TIME I WAS VERY FRUSTRATED, I THINK THE PUBLIC WAS
14:21:28 INCENSED BY THE CONVERSATION.
14:21:29 IT SEEMED LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION HAS NO INTEREST IN
14:21:32 PROTECTING CITY COUNCIL, WE KNOW THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
14:21:36 HAS NO INTEREST IN FACT WORKED AGAINST CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS,
14:21:39 AND IT'S PRETTY DISGUSTING THAT THAT'S HAPPENING AND WE HAVE
14:21:42 GOT TO SET UP A SITUATION WHERE WE PROTECT ELECTED OFFICIALS
14:21:46 FROM FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS AND THE THREAT OF FRIVOLOUS
14:21:50 LAWSUITS.
14:21:50 OTHERWISE, IF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND RISK MANAGEMENT
14:21:53 TAKE THE POINT OF VIEW THAT WE ARE PROTECTING THE CITY, CITY
14:21:57 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE STILL HAS TWO OTHER CLIENTS THAT THEY HAVE
14:22:00 TO PROTECT. IF THE MAYOR WAS GETTING SUED I'M SURE THEY
14:22:03 WOULD FIND A WAY TO DEFEND THE MAYOR AND PAY FOR LEGAL
14:22:07 ATTORNEY FEES BUT IF IT'S CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THEY SEEM TO
14:22:10 NOT BE INTERESTED IN THAT.
14:22:11 AND BY A LOG ONE SET OF INDIVIDUALS OR ONE CATEGORY OF
14:22:14 INDIVIDUALS TO SUE INDIVIDUAL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT
14:22:18 PROTECTS THEM FROM SOMETHING ELSE THAT DOESN'T BECAUSE
14:22:20 PEOPLE ON OPPOSING SIDES ARE GOING TO SUE AND FILE ALL KINDS
14:22:24 OF COMPLAINTS AND WE ARE GOING TO END UP WITH CHAOS IN THIS
14:22:27 CITY.
14:22:28 IF THEY DO THE HUMANE THING AND PROTECT ELECTED OFFICIALS
14:22:34 AND HOPEFULLY EMPLOYEES, TOO, THEN WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE
14:22:37 A HUGE WAR IN THIS COMMUNITY LIKE WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW.
14:22:40 THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED, THAT PREVIOUS MAYORS, PREVIOUS CITY
14:22:43 COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE COME OUT AND SAID WHY IS ADMINISTRATION
14:22:47 ATTACKING THE CITY COUNCIL, ALLOWING CITY COUNCIL TO BE
14:22:49 ATTACKED?
14:22:49 I WOULD BEG YOU AND ASK YOU FOR THE SAKE OF OUR COMMUNITY,
14:22:52 NOT JUST US INDIVIDUALLY, TO COME BACK WITH A SOLUTION THAT
14:22:56 PROTECTS US.
14:22:56 IT IS REALLY DISGUSTING AND DESPICABLE THAT THE CITY
14:23:01 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE NOT ONLY DID NOT PROTECT CITY COUNCIL
14:23:04 MEMBERS BUT ACTIVELY WORKED AGAINST THEM, WHICH HONESTLY IS
14:23:08 A VIOLATION OF THE LAW.
14:23:09 SO IT WILL BE UP TO THEM TO DECIDE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO
14:23:14 BUT WE CANNOT LET THAT HAPPEN IN A CITY.
14:23:16 WE HAVE TO BE CIVIL AND WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW.
14:23:19 THANK YOU.
14:23:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
14:23:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT TAKING ANY SIDES HERE.
14:23:28 I AM JUST SAYING THAT THIS COUNCILMEMBER, I DON'T NEED ANY
14:23:31 SUPPORT AND I DON'T NEED ANY INSURANCE COMPANY TO BACK ME UP
14:23:34 IF I AM GOING TO DO SOMETHING WRONG.
14:23:36 HOWEVER, IF I DID SOMETHING WRONG, AND I COUNT ON THE
14:23:44 LITIGATORS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, THAT WHEN I GO SEE THE
14:23:48 CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEY GIVE ME ADVICE THAT I FOLLOW
14:23:51 THAT ADVICE.
14:23:52 IF I DON'T FOLLOW THAT ADVICE, IF I HAD A PRIVATE ATTORNEY
14:23:58 WOULD TELL ME THERE'S THE DOOR, GET OUT AND LEAVE, I AM NOT
14:24:01 GOING TO REPRESENT YOU.
14:24:02 AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED IF I WAS GOING TO GO TO A PRIVATE
14:24:05 ATTORNEY AND THAT PRIVATE ATTORNEY HE OR SHE TELLS ME HERE
14:24:07 IS WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO, AND I ANSWER NO, THAT ATTORNEY
14:24:11 ISN'T GOING TO TAKE MY CASE.
14:24:14 NEITHER IS THE CITY ATTORNEY.
14:24:15 SO I AM NOT SAYING ANYTHING HAPPENED.
14:24:17 I AM JUST SAYING THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
14:24:19 HOWEVER, I ONCE READ SOMETHING ABOUT A JAMES REID THAT SAID
14:24:23 THAT CHARLIE MIRANDA WAS A MOXIE GUY, A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE
14:24:26 THAT OWNED HOMES.
14:24:27 I DON'T KNOW WHO JAMES REID IS AND I DON'T NEED PROTECTION
14:24:33 FROM ANYBODY FROM THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY TO ANYBODY.
14:24:37 I FIGHT MY OWN BAT ALSO.
14:24:40 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:24:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME, MARTIN SHELBY.
14:24:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD JUST ASK THAT MY OWN PERSONAL NAME
14:24:48 BE TAKEN OFF OF THAT.
14:24:49 IT'S NOT REALLY SPECIFIC TO ME.
14:24:51 IF YOU WANT THE COUNCIL ATTORNEY, THAT'S FINE BUT IT'S
14:24:56 RATHER UNUSUAL TO SEE MY NAME ON THERE.
14:24:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH THAT.
14:25:00 PUT YOU IN A BAD SPOT.
14:25:01 I AGREE WITH THAT.
14:25:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
14:25:05 IS THAT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THAT MOTION AMENDED JUST TO STRIKE
14:25:07 THAT?
14:25:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:25:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT IS HE ASKING?
14:25:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO TAKE MY NAME OFF OF THERE.
14:25:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.
14:25:22 IS THAT SATISFACTORY, MR. SHELBY?
14:25:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS IT BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT?
14:25:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE STILL HAVE THE MOTION.
14:25:29 TO AMEND THE MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:25:33 YOU SECONDED THAT AMEND?
14:25:35 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
14:25:37 ANY OPPOSED?
14:25:38 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I SAW YOUR HAND UP.
14:25:40 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY TO MR. MIRANDA'S POINT,
14:25:43 IF YOU HIRED A PRIVATE ATTORNEY, AND THEN THE PRIVATE
14:25:45 ATTORNEY SET UP ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS FOR YOUR COLLEAGUES AND
14:25:52 MADE A CASE AGAINST YOU AND PULLED OUT EVIDENCE THAT WAS
14:25:58 SKEWED IN A WAY TO MAKE YOU LOOK BAD, AND TO HURT YOUR NAME,
14:26:04 YOU WOULD BE PRETTY UPSET.
14:26:05 AND IF YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD REPRESENTATION FROM AN ATTORNEY
14:26:08 BUT THEN YOU GOT SUED AND YOU FOUND OUT THAT YOU DIDN'T, YOU
14:26:11 WOULD BE UPSET ALSO.
14:26:12 IF YOU FOUND OUT THAT IF YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD ATTORNEY
14:26:15 COVERAGE AND THEN WHEN YOU GOT SUED YOU FOUND THAT YOU HAD
14:26:18 NO ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE AND THERE WAS GOING TO BE NO
14:26:21 DEFENSE OF ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE YOU WOULD BE UPSET.
14:26:23 IF YOU FOUND OUT INSTEAD OF ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE THAT
14:26:25 YOUR ATTORNEY SPENT HOURS IN DEPOSITIONS THROWING YOU UNDER
14:26:28 THE BUS YOU WOULD BE UPSET.
14:26:30 AND FURTHERMORE IF YOUR ATTORNEY WENT TO THE MEDIA AND
14:26:33 PROACTIVELY SAID DISPARAGING THINGS ABOUT YOU THAT COULD
14:26:39 HAVE CAUSED YOU TO GET SUED, YOU WOULD BE VERY UPSET ABOUT
14:26:42 THAT TOO.
14:26:42 SO I THINK THERE'S A BIT OF CIVILITY WE HAVE TO DO HERE, AND
14:26:47 WE NEED TO LOOK AT FLORIDA BAR RULES.
14:26:50 THERE'S SOME GRAY AREA ABOUT HOW LEGAL DEPARTMENTS OF CITIES
14:26:52 ARE HANDLING IT.
14:26:53 THERE'S SOMEBODY LEEWAY, BUT WE HAVE GOT TO FIX THIS
14:26:57 SITUATION SO THERE ARE NOT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, AND
14:27:01 INFORMATION THAT SEEMS SKEWED TOWARD ONE CLIENT VERSUS
14:27:05 ANOTHER, OR WHERE ATTORNEYS ACT REPRESENTING SOMEONE AND
14:27:10 THEN ON THE OTHER HAND DON'T.
14:27:12 THANK YOU.
14:27:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM GOING TO SAY I BELIEVE IN THE LEGAL
14:27:15 PROCESS NO MATTER WHAT ATTORNEY IT IS, AND I AM NOT GOING TO
14:27:18 TAKE THIS CITY DOWN THE DRAIN WITH ME.
14:27:20 THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
14:27:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:27:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THE GIST OF IT ALL IS WHEN I LOOK
14:27:27 AT CERTAIN SITUATIONS, YOU KNOW, AND I AM TRYING TO FIND
14:27:31 OUT, THERE'S REALLY NO POLICIES AND RULES FOR CITY COUNCIL.
14:27:35 IT SEEMS TO BE OFF ONE PLACE.
14:27:38 IT SEEMS WE ARE TREATED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
14:27:40 SO WE MAY BE COMING BACK WITH A TYPE OF MOTION, MR. SHELBY,
14:27:48 THAT WE HAVE A POLICY MANUAL HANDBOOK FOR CITY COUNCIL, HOW
14:27:51 COUNCIL OPERATES IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION AND WITH DIFFERENT
14:27:54 EMPLOYEES AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE, BECAUSE I CAN'T SEEM TO FIND
14:27:57 THAT ANYWHERE.
14:27:57 I CAN SEE THE POINTS BEING MADE.
14:27:59 I THINK THAT'S A POINT THAT NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN HOME.
14:28:01 SO I THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
14:28:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR MADE BY
14:28:10 COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
14:28:13 ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:28:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN YOU READ IT AGAIN, PLEASE?
14:28:18 THAT WAS ABOUT TEN MINUTES AGO.
14:28:19 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION WAS TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO MAY
14:28:23 19, 2022 TO COINCIDE WITH ITEM NUMBER 64, AND TO AMEND THE
14:28:28 PREVIOUS MOTION THAT INCLUDED MARTIN SHELBY'S NAME AND TO
14:28:31 JUST LEAVE IT AS CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
14:28:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:28:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR IT ALL. I AM
14:28:38 GOING TO JUST VOTE NO FOR THE SAKE OF --
14:28:42 >> JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
14:28:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
14:28:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:28:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:28:49 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:28:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:28:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:28:54 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO, AND
14:28:57 HURTAK BEING ABSENT.
14:28:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COULD YOU PLEASE TELL US THE COVERAGES IN
14:29:06 LEGAL MATTERS THAT COUNCIL DOES HAVE?
14:29:12 DO WE NOT HAVE PROTECTION, LEGAL PROTECTION, I DON'T WANT TO
14:29:19 SEE --
14:29:29 >> WE DO CARRY COVERAGE FOR ELECTED OFFICES WHICH INCLUDES
14:29:33 YOU AND CITY EMPLOYEES, THE AMOUNT OF COVERAGE, THE SIR
14:29:36 WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE DEDUCTIBLE IS $500,000 AND IT IS A $2
14:29:40 MILLION ANNUAL, PLUS A 2 MILLION AGGREGATE ANNUALLY.
14:29:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
14:29:47 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR?
14:29:50 CAN YOU TELL US HOW THE DECISION IS MADE AS TO WHETHER
14:29:53 SOMEBODY IS COVERED BELOW 500 THAT YOU, PLEASE?
14:29:57 >> BELOW 500,000?
14:29:59 THAT'S REALLY DETERMINED THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
14:30:04 >>BILL CARLSON: THE CITY ATTORNEY IS APPOINTED BY THE
14:30:06 MAYOR, CORRECT?
14:30:08 >> I'M SORRY?
14:30:10 >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S MADE BY A POLITICAL APPOINTEE?
14:30:13 IT'S MADE BY THE CITY ATTORNEY?
14:30:14 >> THE CITIES IS MADE BY THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE INVOLVED,
14:30:17 BUT FILING A CLAIM WOULD BE DOWNSTREAM OF THAT.
14:30:19 SO THE RISK MANAGER WOULDN'T MAKE THE DETERMINATION WHETHER
14:30:22 OR NOT TO FILE A CLAIM, AND I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK
14:30:25 AND TALK ABOUT IT, BUT JUST KIND OF GENERICALLY SPEAKING, WE
14:30:29 COULD MAKE THE DETERMINATION NOT TO FILE A CLAIM ON
14:30:32 SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN EXCESS OF $500,000 AS A CITY,
14:30:36 POTENTIALLY, BECAUSE WHEN WE DO FILE A CLAIM, BECAUSE WE
14:30:39 HAVE GOT AN UMBRELLA POLICY OF ALL OF OUR VARIOUS COVERAGES,
14:30:43 EVERY ACTION HAS A REACTION DOWNSTREAM, SO WE WOULD BE
14:30:46 COGNIZANT OF THAT.
14:30:47 REGARDLESS OF THE SITUATION, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS PRUDENT
14:30:51 FOR US TO FILE A CLAIM OR AS A SELF-INSURED THE CITY PAY OUT
14:30:55 OF POCKET.
14:30:56 SO THAT $500,000 IS THE NUMBER THAT MAKES A CARRIER FEEL
14:31:01 COMFORTABLE THAT WE ARE ALSO EXHIBITING SOME SENSE OF RISK
14:31:06 BEFORE WE GO --
14:31:08 >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID THIS LAST TIME, MY ONLY CONCERN IS
14:31:11 500,000, WE NEED TO MAKE IT OBJECTIVE.
14:31:14 IT SHOULD NOT BE TO AN ARBITRARY DECISION OF SOMEONE WHO IS
14:31:17 APPOINTED CRITICALLY.
14:31:19 THE SAME THING WITH HEALTH INSURANCE F.SOMEBODY NEEDED A
14:31:21 LUNG TRANSPLANT YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO JOB LIFE TO BE UP TO
14:31:25 WHETHER SOMEBODY POLITICALLY LIKED YOU OR DIDN'T LIKE YOU.
14:31:28 THE OTHER EXAMPLE, IF I ACCIDENTALLY PARKED IN CHAIRMAN
14:31:31 CITRO'S PARKING SPACE I AM OBVIOUSLY BREAKING THE RULES OF
14:31:33 THE CITY, IF I GET HIT BY A CAR AND GO TO THE HOSPITAL, IS
14:31:36 THE CITY GOING TO DENY HEALTH CARE COVERAGE BECAUSE I BROKE
14:31:39 A RULE BY PARKING IN THE WRONG PARKING SPACE?
14:31:42 THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS.
14:31:44 WE HAVE A NATIONAL JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, CIVIL RIGHTS
14:31:47 INVESTIGATION GOING ON RIGHT NOW, AND THERE'S BEEN A WHOLE
14:31:51 BUNCH OF PRESS CONFERENCES AND PRESS RELEASE ABOUT TEXT
14:31:55 MESSAGES, AND IF YOU WEIGH BRUTAL CIVIL RIGHTS ABUSES OVER
14:32:00 THE LAST TEN YEARS COMPARED TO FIVE MISSING TEXT MESSAGES
14:32:05 THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WERE LOST, BUT THE CITY
14:32:09 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SAYS, OH, WE ARE NOT GOING TO COVER ONE
14:32:12 PERSON BUT WE ARE GOING TO COVER THE OTHER, I THINK WE NEED
14:32:14 TO FIX THAT SO IT'S OBJECTIVE.
14:32:16 THANK YOU.
14:32:16 >> THANK YOU.
14:32:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:32:21 INFORMATION REPORTS.
14:32:22 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:32:23 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE
14:32:34 PASS -- THAT WE ASK CITY THE R STAFF TO COME BACK ON JUNE
14:32:38 2nd WITH A PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO BE REQUIRE THE
14:32:42 ADMINISTRATION TO GIVE TEN DAYS NOTICE TO CITY COUNCIL CIVIL
14:32:50 RIGHTS OR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS ON THE CITY.
14:32:55 SO IN THE CASE OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT'S INVESTIGATION,
14:33:00 APPARENTLY STARTED IN DECEMBER, AND WE JUST FOUND OUT LAST
14:33:02 FRIDAY FROM THE MEDIA, MAYBE SOME OF YOU ALL REQUEST BRIEFED
14:33:08 BUT I FOUND OUT FROM THE MEDIA.
14:33:10 I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE BRINGING BACK A PROPOSED ORDINANCE
14:33:12 ON JUNE 2nd TO REQUIRE THE ADMINISTRATION GIVE TEN DAYS
14:33:16 NOTICE TO CITY COUNCIL OF ANY CIVIL RIGHTS OR CRIMINAL
14:33:22 INVESTIGATIONS UPON THE CITY.
14:33:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
14:33:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND
14:33:30 BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:33:31 ANY DISCUSSION?
14:33:34 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I AM GLAD TO SUPPORT IT AND WHATNOT, BUT
14:33:37 I GUESS RED FLAG, WHICH IS THEY MAY NEED MORE TIME THAN JUNE
14:33:41 2nd, BUT WHO KNOWS, RIGHT?
14:33:44 BUT WHAT FORM OF NOTICE IS IT GOING TO BE?
14:33:46 IS IT INDIVIDUAL NOTICE?
14:33:49 I WILL LEAVE THAT TO THEM TO WORK IT OUT BUT JUST MY
14:33:52 THOUGHTS.
14:33:53 THANK YOU, SIR.
14:33:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
14:33:57 MY QUESTION TO THAT WOULD BE TEN DAYS NOTICE.
14:34:00 IF THERE'S PENDING LITIGATION, CAN'T SOMEBODY ELSE TALK
14:34:03 ABOUT SOMETHING?
14:34:07 I'M ASKING COUNCIL HERE.
14:34:08 IS THERE SOME SORT OF GAG ORDER WHERE SOMEONE IF THERE'S
14:34:12 PENDING LITIGATION CAN'T DISCUSS?
14:34:14 OR WHAT IF THAT COMES INTO PLAY?
14:34:16 THEN THE ADMINISTRATION STILL NOTIFIES US WITHIN TEN DAYS?
14:34:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION AND ONE THAT I
14:34:23 DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE LEGAL
14:34:26 DEPARTMENT, I'M SURE, WOULD BE ABLE TO ADVISE WHEN THAT'S
14:34:29 APPROPRIATE OR NOT.
14:34:32 THE MOTION IS WHAT THE MOTION IS.
14:34:33 BUT IF THERE ARE REASONS THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT THINKS
14:34:38 THAT THAT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE, THEN I AM SURE THAT THEY
14:34:42 WILL COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE MAKER OF THE MOTION AND CITY
14:34:46 COUNCIL.
14:34:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MASS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:34:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE HAVE TWO BREAKS, ONE IN THE SUMMER, ONE
14:34:55 IN WINTER, AND DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY HAVE TO TRACE YOU
14:34:59 DOWN WHEREVER YOU ARE AT, SOMEBODY MAY BE ON VACATION?
14:35:02 OR DOES THAT MEAN THEY SEND A LETTER TO THE OFFICE?
14:35:07 YOU HAVE TO CLEAR IT UP.
14:35:09 AND LEGALITIES, IT INCLUDES HOLIDAY, AND WEEKENDS.
14:35:13 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY, THANK YOU.
14:35:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:35:19 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:35:21 ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:35:30 ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I WOULD PREFER IT.
14:35:35 MR. SHELBY.
14:35:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE YOU TAKE A VOTE, YOU REQUESTED THE
14:35:38 FORM OF AN ORDINANCE.
14:35:42 >>BILL CARLSON: THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS CONCERNS OR CAVEATS
14:35:47 THEY WANT TO PUT IN, THEY WILL BUILD IN THE AND BRIEF US ON
14:35:50 IT OR THEY WILL ASK FOR IT TO BE DELAYED.
14:35:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
14:35:55 I AM JUST THINKING THAT THERE ARE OTHER FORMS OF
14:35:58 COMMUNICATION TO THE ADMINISTRATION RATHER THAN THE FORM OF
14:36:00 AN ORDINANCE.
14:36:02 THAT MIGHT BE FASTER AND AS EFFECTIVE PERHAPS.
14:36:06 >>BILL CARLSON: BUT IF WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE --
14:36:08 WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
14:36:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:36:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:36:16 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:36:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:36:19 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:36:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:36:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:36:22 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
14:36:26 ABSENT.
14:36:26 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT CITY
14:36:28 STAFF REPORT TO US ON JUNE 2nd AS TO AN UPDATE ON THE
14:36:34 JUSTICE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATION.
14:36:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY.
14:36:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
14:36:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:36:42 SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
14:36:44 ANY DISCUSSION?
14:36:45 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
14:36:46 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:36:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:36:54 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:36:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:36:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:36:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:36:59 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
14:37:01 ABSENT.
14:37:02 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO MORE QUICK ONES.
14:37:04 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT REPORT
14:37:08 BACK TO US ON JUNE 2nd ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ANY
14:37:12 SAVINGS THAT WE CAN USE IN THE WATER DEPARTMENT TO REDUCE
14:37:17 WATER RATES.
14:37:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
14:37:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
14:37:23 ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:37:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:37:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:37:29 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:37:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:37:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:37:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:37:37 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
14:37:39 ABSENT.
14:37:39 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH ME.
14:37:44 ZANABAR IS RETIRING FROM PLANT MUSEUM AFTER 31 YEARS, AND I
14:37:51 WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A COMMENDATION ON MAY 18th
14:37:54 OFF-PREMISES, PLEASE.
14:37:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE]
14:38:05 >>BILL CARLSON: WHY DON'T YOU PUT YOUR NAME ON IT?
14:38:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, NO, NO.
14:38:09 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
14:38:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMEN, COUNCILMEN.
14:38:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MEAN IT.
14:38:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:38:19 SECONDED BY DEMAND MANISCALCO.
14:38:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:38:25 THANK YOU.
14:38:26 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:38:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, GENTLEMEN, YOU KNOW THE HOUSING
14:38:31 CRISIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN BUILD OURSELVES OUT OF.
14:38:34 THIS CRISIS WILL REQUIRE SEVERAL STRATEGIES.
14:38:38 EAST TAMPA OWNER OCCUPIED AND DETERIORATING SO THERE ARE
14:38:43 MANY, MANY MORE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
14:38:45 IF THE PRORATE ISSUE IS ADDRESSED MANY OF THESE HOMES COULD
14:38:48 BE BROUGHT ONLINE FOR RENTAL OR HOME OWNERSHIP.
14:38:52 I MAKE A MOTION TO ADDRESS PROBING ISSUES AND BRING
14:38:57 ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS ONLINE AND CAN BRING THAT BACK TO
14:39:00 US ON JUNE 16, 2022.
14:39:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
14:39:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY
14:39:06 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
14:39:07 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
14:39:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:39:14 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:39:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:39:16 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:39:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:39:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:39:21 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
14:39:24 ABSENT.
14:39:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN GUDES?
14:39:30 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
14:39:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOTHING AT THIS TIME.
14:39:33 THANK YOU, SIR.
14:39:34 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, WE HAVE A COMMENDATION MEETING ON, WHAT,
14:39:40 MAY, TUESDAY.
14:39:41 I KNOW THIS IS A LAST MINUTE ONE AND I FORGOT TO DO THIS.
14:39:44 COLONEL REYES WAS JUST RECENTLY INDUCTED INTO THE FLORIDA
14:39:49 VETERANS HALL OF FAME AND I WANTED TO HAVE HIM HERE FOR A
14:39:53 CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION INDICATION FOR THAT.
14:39:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY
14:39:58 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
14:39:59 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:40:00 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
14:40:01 THANK YOU.
14:40:02 MOTION CARRIES.
14:40:04 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:40:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE ONE.
14:40:08 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ADMINISTRATION TO PRESENT
14:40:11 THE FISCAL MIDYEAR REVIEW DURING THE MAY 19 CITY COUNCIL
14:40:16 MEETING.
14:40:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:40:19 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
14:40:21 ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:40:22 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:40:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:40:29 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:40:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:40:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:40:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:40:34 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
14:40:36 ABSENT.
14:40:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY, ANYTHING FOR YOU BEFORE WE
14:40:42 PROCEED?
14:40:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
14:40:44 IT'S FITTING THAT IT WAS JUST AFTER THE LAST MOTION
14:40:47 REGARDING THE BUDGET MIDYEAR REPORT BECAUSE THE ADVISORY
14:40:53 COMMITTEE, AS COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE
14:40:57 DAY, HAS A NEED TO HAVE STAFFING SUPPORT, AND PURSUANT TO
14:41:07 THE RESOLUTION FROM 2011, IT DOES STATE SPECIFICALLY THAT
14:41:14 SUCH CLERICAL, SECRETARIAL AND OTHER SERVICES SHALL BE -- AS
14:41:18 SHALL BE NEEDED BY THE COMMITTEE SHALL BE RENDERED THROUGH
14:41:21 THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF.
14:41:22 THAT'S THE WAY THAT STATES.
14:41:24 ALSO, THAT RESOLUTION DOES ALSO NEED TO BE UPDATED AND
14:41:29 REVISED.
14:41:31 SO I SUSPECT TRADITIONALLY WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS
14:41:37 THAT THE FINANCE CHAIR'S LEGISLATIVE AIDE, MY UNDERSTANDING
14:41:41 IS THAT THEY TOOK ON THAT TASK AND I BELIEVE IT'S A GREATER
14:41:44 TASK, BECOME A GREATER TASK THAN IT WAS IN THE PAST, AND
14:41:49 LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME SORT OF GUIDANCE FROM CITY COUNCIL
14:41:52 WITH REGARD TO HOW BEST TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
14:41:56 WE HAVE A NEW CHAIR, OBVIOUSLY.
14:41:59 CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
14:42:02 BUT THE QUESTION ULTIMATELY IS, AT THE LAST MEETING,
14:42:07 UNFORTUNATELY, THEY FAILED TO GET A QUORUM.
14:42:10 SO THERE WAS NO MEETING THIS PAST WEEK, ACTUALLY YESTERDAY.
14:42:16 SO THAT BEING SAID, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO SOLVE
14:42:20 THE LOGISTICS ISSUES TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS BOARD AND TO
14:42:25 GET IT CLEAR ABOUT ITS MISSION MOVING FORWARD SO THAT THEY
14:42:29 CAN DO WHAT IT IS THAT THEY FEEL NEEDS TO BE DONE IN SUPPORT
14:42:33 OF PRESENTING NEW INFORMATION FOR THEIR BUDGET -- FROM THEM,
14:42:40 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE BUDGET.
14:42:43 SO I AM LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE FROM COUNCIL.
14:42:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
14:42:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THAT THE RESOLUTION IS OUTDATED.
14:42:53 I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED, NUMBER ONE.
14:42:57 MAYBE MR. SHELBY GETS WITH THE NEW CHAIRMAN AND GET SOME
14:43:01 ADVICE FROM THE OTHER COUNCILMEN AND BRING IT BACK AT OUR
14:43:05 NEXT MEETING AND THAT COMMITTEE IS VERY IMPORTANT, AND THEY
14:43:11 DO A LOT OF WORK NOW.
14:43:12 I AM NOT SAYING THE OTHER COMMITTEES DIDN'T BEFORE, BUT THE
14:43:16 CITY HAS GROWN, AND THEY WERE OPERATING OUT OF ORDER, THAT
14:43:19 WE FOUND OUT ABOUT, IN THE MEETINGS COMPLIANCE.
14:43:23 SO MR. SHELBY TO GET WITH THE CHAIR AND COME UP WITH A
14:43:26 SOLUTION IN REFERENCE TO THE MEMBERS ON THAT COMMITTEE THAT
14:43:31 IF YOU NEED SOMEONE, THEY NEED TO BE PART OF THAT COMMITTEE,
14:43:34 MISSING DATES AND TIMES AND SO FORTH, AND WE NEED TO HELP
14:43:37 THE CLERK SEND A NOTICE TO THEM, OR SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE
14:43:41 STAFF RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE STAFF AND AIDS ARE VERY BUSY, AND
14:43:45 IF WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE NOTICES OF MEETINGS, THEN LET'S
14:43:48 DO THAT UNTIL WE CAN GET IT INTO THE BUDGET IN REFERENCE TO
14:43:50 COME INTO COMPLIANCE, THAT THE CHARTER SAYS WE HAVE A PERSON
14:43:55 ON THAT COMMITTEE, AND ALSO THE SECRETARY OF STAFF.
14:44:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND I'M HAPPY TO HELP.
14:44:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHEN IS THEIR NEXT MEETING?
14:44:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY ARE SCHEDULED FOR THE FIRST WEDNESDAY
14:44:18 OF THE MONTH IN JUNE AND NOW YOU HAVE THIS MIDYEAR REPORT
14:44:21 COMING UP BEFORE THEN.
14:44:26 THE OTHER ISSUE IS IN TALKING TO MIKE PERRY, IT TURNS OUT
14:44:32 FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE THE INPUT AND
14:44:36 PARTICIPATION OF STAFF IS CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT TO THE SUCCESS
14:44:41 OF THAT COMMITTEE GETTING THEIR INFORMATION, AND IT TURNS
14:44:43 OUT THAT I LEARNED JUST YESTERDAY THAT WEDNESDAYS, IN
14:44:50 PARTICULAR, ARE THE MOST DIFFICULT TIME FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE
14:44:54 TO PARTICIPATE.
14:44:55 FRIDAY IS WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS THE DAY OF THE WEEK THAT THEY
14:44:59 HAD MET IN THE PAST, AND THAT WORKS BEST FOR STAFF.
14:45:02 SO THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT STAFF NEEDED TO HAVE OR NEEDS TO
14:45:06 HAVE WITH THE COMMITTEE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY COULDN'T TAKE
14:45:08 PLACE YESTERDAY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO QUORUM.
14:45:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT STAFF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
14:45:15 ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CLERK'S OFFICE?
14:45:16 ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT I.T.?
14:45:18 ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LEGAL?
14:45:19 WHICH PART OF THE STAFF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
14:45:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, GENERALLY, THE REQUEST OF THE BUDGET
14:45:24 COMMITTEE WAS TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE FROM BUDGET AND FINANCE
14:45:28 REGULARLY.
14:45:29 BUT IF THEY REQUEST OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO COME IN, IT
14:45:32 INCLUDES DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
14:45:36 ON A AS-REQUESTED BASIS.
14:45:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:45:43 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
14:45:47 I AM HAPPY TO DO THIS IF YOU WANT.
14:45:48 HOW ABOUT IF WE MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL
14:45:51 ATTORNEY CIRCULATE THE RESOLUTION CREATING THE COMMITTEE TO
14:45:56 ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND
14:46:01 DISCUSS IT ON JUNE 2nd DURING STAFF REPORTS TO RECOMMEND
14:46:05 COLLECTIVELY CHANGES TO IT SO THAT WE DO ALL THE CHANGES AT
14:46:09 ONCE?
14:46:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
14:46:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S GOING TO BE A LONG PROCESS.
14:46:18 AT A PUBLIC MEETING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
14:46:20 >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE ALLOWED TO TAKE
14:46:24 INPUT FROM US INDIVIDUALLY BUT I WOULD ASSUME YOU WOULD DO
14:46:26 THAT ANYWAY.
14:46:27 YOU JUST CAN'T SHARE IT BETWEEN US.
14:46:29 FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE THINGS AS I UNDERSTAND STAFF ARE
14:46:31 SCARED THAT THEY ARE LIKE HUNTING FOR NEGATIVE THINGS TO
14:46:34 FIND, AND WE CAN CLARIFY THAT IN THE LANGUAGE OF WHAT WE
14:46:38 DESCRIBE.
14:46:39 TO ME, THEY ARE EYES AND EARS TOGETHER, MORE DETAILED
14:46:43 INFORMATION ON THE BUDGET, NOT ON A HUNTING EXPEDITION TO
14:46:45 FIND SOMETHING BAD.
14:46:48 AND JUST CHANGING SOME LANGUAGE WE PROBABLY CAN JUST CHANGE
14:46:52 IT, AND IF WE NEED TO IN A RESOLUTION PUT TENANT'S
14:46:56 REQUIREMENTS OR WHATEVER SO IF SOMEBODY MISSES TWO OR THREE
14:46:59 MEETINGS THEN WE CAN REPLACE THEM.
14:47:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND THAT WAS WHAT MY QUESTIONS WERE ABOUT,
14:47:04 TO FIND A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION, WHETHER THE STAFF THAT WAS
14:47:08 NEEDED WAS FOR CLERK OR I.T. OR LEGAL OR FINANCE, AND FIND A
14:47:14 SHORT TERM UNTIL WE COLLECTIVELY FIND A LONG-TERM SOLUTION.
14:47:19 BUT COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS A MOTION.
14:47:21 IS THERE A SECOND TO IT?
14:47:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN IS THAT BOARD SCHEDULED TO MEET
14:47:27 AGAIN?
14:47:28 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION.
14:47:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE SHORT TERM SOLUTION IS HOW WE GET
14:47:33 EVERYTHING DONE IN PREPARATION FOR THE NEXT MEETING ON THE
14:47:34 FIRST WEDNESDAY.
14:47:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION, WHAT DO THEY NEED
14:47:40 FROM US AS FAR AS STAFF GOES?
14:47:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SOMEBODY TO TAKE THE MINUTES, PREPARE THE
14:47:47 MINUTES, IN ADVANCE OF THAT, THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE TO
14:47:55 PUT TOGETHER AN AGENDA, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CLERK GETS THE
14:47:57 NOTICE, OR MAYBE THE CLERK DOES THE NOTICE, THAT THE NOTICE
14:48:01 GOES OUT, AND THAT IT'S A LOCATION THAT IS IN THE SUNSHINE,
14:48:08 AND THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT MINUTES ARE TAKEN, AND RECORDED.
14:48:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULD IT BE TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR THIS
14:48:17 COUNCIL TO ASK THE CLERK'S OFFICE FOR HELP FOR JUST THAT ONE
14:48:21 MEETING UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT SOMETHING LONG-TERM?
14:48:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
14:48:28 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CLERK -- I KNOW THE CLERK IS SHORT
14:48:33 STAFFED.
14:48:37 UNLESS THERE'S A LEGISLATIVE AIDE THAT WANTS TO VOLUNTEER.
14:48:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT STATEMENT.
14:48:44 AND WE ARE SHORT THERE.
14:48:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
14:48:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO HOW DO WE SOLVE THE SHORT TERM BEFORE WE
14:48:50 GET TOGETHER AND DECIDE LONG-TERM?
14:48:54 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
14:48:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND IF THE CLERK SENDS OUT THE NOTICES, SO
14:49:00 UNFORTUNATELY IT MAY FALL ON THEM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE
14:49:03 PEOPLE TO DO IT.
14:49:05 SO THEY SEND OUT THE NOTICES, AND THEY ARE SHORT, TOO, BUT
14:49:12 CONTACT THE CHAIRMAN OF THAT COMMITTEE AND SEE WHAT THEY
14:49:15 NEED, AND GET IT DONE.
14:49:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE CLERK SENT THE NOTICES THROUGHOUT THE
14:49:22 CITY AND ENDS UP POSTING THE NOTICES.
14:49:24 THEY DON'T NECESSARILY DRAW UP THE NOTICE.
14:49:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHO DOES THE NOTICES?
14:49:32 >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE] -- OUR DEPARTMENT AND THEN
14:49:39 DISTRIBUTE IT.
14:49:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO BASICALLY THEY HAVE BEEN DRAWING UP
14:49:41 NOTICES ANYWAY IS WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME?
14:49:44 >>THE CLERK: NO, NO.
14:49:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHO HAS BEEN DOING IT?
14:49:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE LEGISLATIVE AIDS, THE FINANCE CHAIR,
14:49:50 OR WHATEVER LEGISLATIVE AIDE A COUNCILMEMBER DECIDES TO HAVE
14:49:54 THAT AIDE DO THAT.
14:49:56 IN THE PAST IT WAS A LEGISLATIVE AIDE THAT WAS THE
14:49:58 ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.
14:50:02 AND SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, THE POSITION SHIFTED AND
14:50:06 WORKLOAD CHANGED.
14:50:08 SO WITH REGARD TO NEXT MONTH'S NOTICE, AND AGENDA, THE ONLY
14:50:15 THING THAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT IS SOMEBODY THERE TO
14:50:17 TAKE THE MINUTES AND TO BE ABLE TO DRAW UP THE MINUTES.
14:50:29 I COULD GO OVER THE NOTICE.
14:50:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM GOING TO ASK THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO
14:50:33 HAVE SOMEONE THERE TO TAKE MINUTES, FOR THE NEXT BUDGET HE
14:50:39 CITIZENS BUDGET AND FINANCE REVIEW.
14:50:42 CAN THAT BE ACCOMMODATED FOR THAT ONE MEETING?
14:50:47 I APOLOGIZE.
14:50:48 >>THE CLERK: WE ARE VERY SHORT STAFFED.
14:50:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND I UNDERSTAND.
14:50:53 >>THE CLERK: ON THAT WEDNESDAY, I HAVE AGENDA REVIEW GOING
14:50:59 ON.
14:51:00 THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.
14:51:01 WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO HELP, BUT WE ARE EXTREMELY SHORT
14:51:05 STAFFED
14:51:15 GENTLEMEN?
14:51:15 I HAVE ASKED.
14:51:17 WHAT ARE THE OTHER OPTIONS? DOES ANYBODY WANT TO GIVE UP
14:51:20 THEIR AIDE FOR THE EVENING?
14:51:22 TWO HOURS.
14:51:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY IT'S JUNE 1st.
14:51:30 >>BILL CARLSON: IS IT POSSIBLE THE CLERK COULD HIRE A TEMP
14:51:33 AND WE COULD PAY OUT OF OUR CITY COUNCIL BUDGETS?
14:51:36 >>THE CLERK: THEY MAY NOT BE THERE.
14:51:42 >> COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD?
14:51:54 [ LAUGHTER ]
14:51:54 >> LISA EDWARDS.
14:51:59 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, I WILL DO THE
14:52:05 MINUTES FOR THAT ONE MEETING.
14:52:06 [ APPLAUSE ]
14:52:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. EDWARDS.
14:52:15 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, COULD WE VOTE ON THE OTHER ONE,
14:52:20 TOO?
14:52:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WHAT'S THE
14:52:25 OTHER ONE?
14:52:25 WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS FOR SO LONG.
14:52:27 >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER ONE WAS TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL
14:52:32 ATTORNEY TO CIRCULATE THE RESOLUTION THAT CREATED THE BUDGET
14:52:37 COMMITTEE, AND ASK FOR EACH OF US TO GIVE INPUT, AND THEN
14:52:41 HAVE A DISCUSSION DURING STAFF REPORTS ON JUNE 2nd TO
14:52:45 COLLECT INPUT AND RECOMMEND CHANGES, CONSENSUS ON CHANGES TO
14:52:49 THE ENABLING RESOLUTION.
14:52:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HEARD THE MOTION OF COUNCILMAN CARLSON,
14:52:54 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
14:52:57 ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:52:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:53:00 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:53:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:53:02 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:53:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:53:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:53:06 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
14:53:09 ABSENT.
14:53:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE ONE MORE ITEM.
14:53:15 I'M SORRY TO DO THAT, COUNCIL, BUT THIS CAME UP AT THE LAST
14:53:18 WORKSHOP AND YOU JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SO WE DON'T HAVE THE
14:53:20 ISSUE COME UP AGAIN.
14:53:23 WE ARE IN A HYBRID STATE NOW AND THE QUESTION IS, WHEN DO
14:53:28 YOU WANT TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?
14:53:30 DO YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT THE ORIGINAL RULES WHICH,
14:53:32 WHICH WAS DISCUSSIONS AFTER EACH ITEM, OR DO YOU WANT TO
14:53:36 HAVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT UP FRONT, OR DO YOU WANT TO HAVE
14:53:41 BOTH AND ONLY ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK ONCE ON EACH SUBJECT?
14:53:45 SO THE QUESTION IS, WHICH IS THE WAY I THINK YOU HANDLED IT
14:53:49 LAST TIME AT THE LAST WORKSHOP, BUT THE WAY IT WAS, YOUR
14:53:56 STANDING RULES STATE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MATTER WHICH IS
14:53:58 THE SUBJECT OF THE WORKSHOP SHALL BE TAKEN UP TO A TOTAL OF
14:54:01 30 MINUTES, AT THE END OF EACH WORKSHOP AGENDA, THREE
14:54:04 MINUTES PER SPEAKER, NO OFFICIAL ON THE MATTER WHICH IS THE
14:54:08 SUBJECT OF THE WORKSHOP SHALL BE TAKEN DURING OR AFTER A
14:54:10 WORKSHOP UNLESS THE PUBLIC IS AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO
14:54:13 COMMENT IT PRIOR TO ACTION.
14:54:14 THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THERE WAS NO GENERAL COMMENT ON
14:54:17 WORKSHOP DAYS.
14:54:18 SO YOU WENT RIGHT INTO THE WORKSHOPS AND YOU ALLOWED ONLY
14:54:21 PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE WORKSHOP ITEM.
14:54:23 IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE HOW YOU WANT TO CONDUCT YOUR
14:54:26 MEETINGS.
14:54:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD SAY WE DO IT LIKE WE DID LAST
14:54:30 THURSDAY WHERE WE HAD GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE
14:54:32 BEGINNING, BUT THOSE THAT SPOKE MAY NOT -- THEY HAVE TO
14:54:36 SPEAK WHAT WE CALL IT NOT ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA, BECAUSE
14:54:40 THEN AFTER EACH WORKSHOP ITEM WE'LL HAVE THAT PUBLIC
14:54:42 COMMENT.
14:54:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT IF THEY WANTED TO COME IN AND SPEAK
14:54:46 BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE FIRST ON THE AGENDA, SAY THEIR PEACE
14:54:52 AND THEN LEAVE?
14:54:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, BECAUSE I BELIEVE MR. ROBINSON
14:54:56 SPOKE AND HE HAD ANOTHER MATTER TO ATTEND TO AND HE WAS NOT
14:54:58 ABLE TO BE HERE, BUT HE DIDN'T COME BACK FOR A SECOND BITE
14:55:03 AT THE APPLE.
14:55:05 AND THEN HE HAD TO GO TO WORK AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
14:55:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO CONSENSUS IS TO HAVE GENERAL PUBLIC
14:55:11 COMMENT, AND ALSO SPEAK AFTER EACH ITEM?
14:55:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND WE GOT OUT PRETTY EARLY, TOO.
14:55:17 IT DIDN'T MAKE FOR A SUPER LONG DAY.
14:55:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE
14:55:23 USE THE SAME FORMAT LIKE LAST THURSDAY WHICH IS THAT GENERAL
14:55:26 PUBLIC COMMENT, NO SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE, AND THEN AFTER
14:55:29 EACH WORKSHOP ITEM PEOPLE CAN SPEAK ON THAT SAID ITEM.
14:55:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:55:38 ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:55:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
14:55:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:55:45 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:55:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:55:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:55:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:55:49 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
14:55:53 ABSENT.
14:55:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
14:55:56 >> SECOND.
14:55:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
14:56:00 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:56:01 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:56:03 ANY OPPOSED?
14:56:05 WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
14:56:07 (CITY COUNCIL MEETING ADJOURNED)
14:57:43
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