CITY OF TAMPA
THURSDAY, MAY 5, 2022
9:00 A.M.



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09:01:05 >> MY NAME IS SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK FOR THE CITY

OF TAMPA.

ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

09:03:50 >> CARLSON?

09:03:51 >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.

09:03:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.

09:03:55 >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.

09:03:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.

09:04:01 >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.

09:04:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.

09:04:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.

09:04:04 >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

09:04:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MADAM CLERK, DID YOU HEAR COUNCILWOMAN

HURTAK?

09:04:11 >>THE CLERK:
YES, IT WAS VERY FAINT.

09:04:13 >>LYNN HURTAK:
SORRY.

I DON'T HAVE GREAT INTERNET HERE.




09:04:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OKAY.

GOOD MORNING.

MADAM CLERK?

THANK YOU.

CITY COUNCIL, AS YOU SEE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS GOING TO BE

APPEARING REMOTELY.

PURSUANT TO COUNCIL'S RULES, SHE HAS REQUESTED THAT SHE DO

PARTICIPATE.

AND RULE 3 G-2 REQUIRES A VOTE OF COUNCIL PRIOR TO

PARTICIPATION MAKING SUCH A REQUEST.

IS THERE A MOTION FOR HER TO DO THAT?

09:04:50 >> SO MOVED.

09:04:53 >> SECOND.

09:05:01 >>THE CLERK:
GUDES MOTION AND MIRANDA SECOND.

09:05:09 >> [SPEAKING OFF MICROPHONE]

09:05:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MADAM CLERK, DO YOU WANT TO ASK THOSE IN

FAVOR?

THAT'S TRUE, THERE IS NO CHAIR RIGHT NOW.

09:05:19 >>THE CLERK:
THOSE IN FAVOR?

09:05:21 >> AYE.

09:05:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.

THAT'S A FIRST.

09:05:26 >>THE CLERK:
WE WILL NOW CONDUCT THE ELECTION FOR CHAIRMAN

AND CHAIRMAN PRO TEM FOR THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.

HERE ARE THE ELECTION GUIDELINES.




THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIRMAN WILL BE HELD FIRST.

NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND.

PLEASE WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED BEFORE NOMINATING A CANDIDATE.

I WILL OPEN THE NOMINATIONS AND CLOSE THEM AFTER ALL

NOMINATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.

VOTES WILL BE COUNTED BY RAISING THE HAND.

THE VOTE WILL BE TAKEN IN THE ORDER OF THE NOMINATION.

BEGINNING WITH THE FIRST NAME NOMINATED.

THE VOTE WILL CEASE AS SOON AS THERE IS A MAJORITY, WHICH

REQUIRES FOUR VOTES.

HAVING SAID THAT, NOMINATIONS ARE NOW IN ORDER FOR CHAIRMAN.

MR. GUDES.

09:06:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BILL CARLSON.

09:06:15 >>THE CLERK:
BILL CARLSON HAS BEEN NOMINATED.

IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?

YES, MR. MIRANDA.

09:06:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE]

09:06:25 >>THE CLERK:
MR. CITRO HAS BEEN NOMINATED.

IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?

I WILL CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS ON BILL CARLSON AND MR. CITRO.

ALL IN FAVOR OF BILL CARLSON, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

THAT'S THREE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF MR. CITRO, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

MS. HURTAK?




DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND?

DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND?

09:07:12 >>LYNN HURTAK:
ARE YOU ASKING ME?

09:07:14 >>THE CLERK:
YES.

09:07:15 >>LYNN HURTAK:
SORRY.

I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING.

YES, I RAISE MY HAND.

09:07:20 >>THE CLERK:
YOU RAISE YOUR HAND FOR MR. CITRO?

09:07:25 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, I DID.

09:07:26 >>THE CLERK:
MR. CITRO, YOU'VE BEEN ELECTED CHAIRMAN.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

09:07:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE AFFIRMATIVE

VOTES.

I DO APPRECIATE IT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A WONDERFUL YEAR AS

CHAIR OF CITY COUNCIL AND HELPING THE CITY OF TAMPA.

09:07:43 >>THE CLERK:
THANK YOU.

WE NOW HAVE THE ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN PRO TEM.

IS THERE A NOMINATION?

MR. CITRO.

09:07:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE COUNCILWOMAN LYNN

HURTAK.

09:08:04 >>THE CLERK:
MS. HURTAK HAS BEEN NOMINATED.

IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?

09:08:11 >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S WHO I WAS GOING TO NOMINATE.

SO I TAKE IT OUT.




09:08:14 >>THE CLERK:
IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?

09:08:16 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO NOMINATE GUIDO.

I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SORRY.

SORRY.

I'VE HAD SIX CAPPUCCINOS.

09:08:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M NOT TRYING TO GET INVOLVED IN THE

PROCESS, BUT SHE HAS AT LEAST DECLINED THE OFFER SHE WAS

GIVEN.

09:08:41 >>THE CLERK:
MS. HURTAK, ARE YOU ACCEPTING THE NOMINATION

FOR CHAIRMAN PRO TEM?

09:08:48 >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, YES.

I GUESS.

YES.

ARE WE DOING THE SAME PROCESS AS WE WERE BEFORE?

09:08:56 >>THE CLERK:
YES.

SO YOU'RE ACCEPTING.

ALL IN FAVOR OF MS. HURTAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

09:09:07 >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M GOING TO BE -- I KNOW WE TRADITIONALLY

NEVER SPEAK DURING THIS THING, BUT I WAS PLANNING ON

NOMINATING MS. HURTAK, BUT IF SHE'S NOMINATED COUNCILMAN

MANISCALCO, OUT OF DEFERENCE TO HER, I'LL TAKE THAT INTO

ACCOUNT.

I WAS PLANNING ON NOMINATING HER.

THAT'S ALL I WAS GOING TO SAY.




09:09:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, MADAM CLERK, IF I CAN JUST

INQUIRE, IN THIS PROCESS, IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR SOMEBODY WHO

IS NOMINATED TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY ELSE?

09:09:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU

MS. HURTAK IS NOT NEXT DOOR.

SHE'S DOING FAMILY BUSINESS AND SHE'S THOUSANDS OF MILES

AWAY.

SO THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN THE SYSTEM, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE

GREAT TECHNOLOGY, THERE'S STILL THREE OR FOUR SECOND DELAY

OR MAYBE MORE.

THAT'S WHY SHE'S NOT ACTIVELY ENGAGING BECAUSE IT AIN'T HER.

IT IS THE SYSTEM SHE'S IN.

09:10:00 >>THE CLERK:
OKAY.

I WILL CLOSE THE NOMINATION FOR MS. HURTAK AND

MR. MANISCALCO.

09:10:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, I'M SORRY.

FORGIVE ME, THIS IS VERY UNUSUAL.

BUT THE QUESTION REMAINS -- [PHONE RINGING] -- SHE ACCEPTS

THE NOMINATION, WAS THAT STATED?

I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

09:10:25 >>THE CLERK:
ALL IN FAVOR OF LYNN HURTAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR

HAND.




OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR OF MR. MANISCALCO, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

MR. MANISCALCO.

09:10:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THAT'S ALWAYS AN HONOR TO SERVE EACH AND EVERY DAY THIS

WONDERFUL COMMUNITY.

I AM GRATEFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU.

09:10:59 >>THE CLERK:
THANK YOU.

WE WILL NOW HAVE THE ELECTION OF CRA CHAIRMAN AND

VICE-CHAIRMAN.

THE GUIDELINES ARE THE SAME.

IS THERE A NOMINATION FOR CRA CHAIRMAN?

YES, MR. GUDES.

09:11:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BILL CARLSON.

09:11:20 >>THE CLERK:
MR. CARLSON HAS BEEN NOMINATED.

IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?

09:11:25 >>LUIS VIERA:
I WAS GOING TO NOMINATE MS. HURTAK, IF I MAY.

09:11:31 >>THE CLERK:
MS. HURTAK HAS BEEN NOMINATED.

IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?

WE'LL CLOSE THE NOMINATION ON BILL CARLSON AND LYNN HURTAK.

ALL IN FAVOR OF BILL CARLSON, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.




THERE'S THREE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF LYNN HURTAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

MS. HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

09:12:09 >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.

I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING THIS ROLE.

09:12:16 >>THE CLERK:
THANK YOU.

NOMINATIONS ARE NOW IN ORDER FOR CRA VICE-CHAIR.

IS THERE A NOMINATION?

YES, MR. CARLSON.

09:12:27 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE ORLANDO GUDES.

09:12:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I DECLINE.

09:12:32 >>THE CLERK:
IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?

VICE-CHAIR OF CRA.

09:12:41 >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL NOMINATE BILL CARLSON -- I'M SORRY,

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:12:51 >>THE CLERK:
MR. CARLSON HAS BEEN NOMINATED.

IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?

09:12:55 >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M GOING TO DECLINE THAT, TOO, PLEASE.

09:12:59 >>THE CLERK:
IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?

09:13:01 >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, I NOMINATE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

09:13:07 >>THE CLERK:
MR. MANISCALCO HAS BEEN NOMINATED.

IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

09:13:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'M THE BACKUP QUARTERBACK.




AGAIN, I'M VERY GRATEFUL.

I'VE SERVED IN ALL THE POSITIONS FROM CHAIRMAN TO CRA AND

THIS BOARD.

AGAIN, IT'S AN HONOR.

I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE, AND I WISH BOTH CHAIRPERSONS OF BOTH

BOARDS ALL THE BEST, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A GOOD,

PRODUCTIVE YEAR AHEAD.

THANK YOU.

09:13:42 >>THE CLERK:
THANK YOU VERY KINDLY.

APPRECIATE IT.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE NEW CHAIR.

09:13:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MS. SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES.

AND THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

WHO HAS THE INVOCATION TODAY?

09:14:05 >>LYNN HURTAK:
HI.

09:14:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. HURTAK.

09:14:09 >>LYNN HURTAK:
BYE.

I'M GOING TO GO ENJOY ROME WITH MY MOTHER.

I'LL SEE YOU ALL NEXT WEEK.

09:14:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S A MOMENT OF

SILENCE FOR TODAY IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

09:14:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IF EVERYBODY WOULD PLEASE RISE.

LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR ALL THOSE WHO ARE

SUFFERING IN UKRAINE.

[MOMENT OF SILENCE]




[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

THANK YOU.

PLEASE BE SEATED.

ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

09:15:04 >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.

09:15:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.

09:15:06 >> HURTAK?

VIERA?

09:15:08 >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.

09:15:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.

09:15:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.

09:15:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.

09:15:12 >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

09:15:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:15:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA CITY

COUNCIL.

MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

TODAY IS THURSDAY, MAY 5, 2022.

WE'RE HERE AT OLD CITY HALL FOR THE REGULAR AGENDA MEETING.

THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO

WATCH, LISTEN, AND VIEW THIS MEETING ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640

AND FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 AND ON THE INTERNET AT

TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND IN PERSON HERE IN CITY




COUNCIL'S CHAMBERS AT OLD CITY HALL OR VIRTUALLY PARTICIPATE

IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING USING WHAT IS REFERRED TO BY THE

STATE OF FLORIDA STATUTES AND RULES AS COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA

TECHNOLOGY.

SPEAK REMOTELY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE USE OF CMT,

PREREGISTRATION IS REQUIRED.

AND THAT FORM IS AVAILABLE AT TAMPA.GOV/PUBLICCOMMENT.

THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THAT ARE ALSO ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB

PAGE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL, AND ALSO IN THE NOTICE OF THE

MEETING.

TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY USING CMT FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS,

PREREGISTRATION IS ALSO REQUIRED, AND THAT IS ALSO AVAILABLE

ON THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THAT FOR PREREGISTRATION ARE ON THE

CITY COUNCIL'S WEBSITE AND IN THE INSTRUCTIONS AND IN THE

NOTICE.

JUST A REMINDER FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN

QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS, YOU WILL NEED A DEVICE THAT ALLOWS,

TABLET OR COMPUTER EQUIPPED WITH CAMERA OR MICROPHONE TO

ENABLE YOU TO BE SEEN BY VIDEO AND HEARD BY AUDIO.

CELL PHONES AND SMART PHONES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE.

THAT BEING SAID TO ALLOW FOR PARTICIPATION VIRTUALLY FOR ALL

THE HEARINGS TODAY AND THE PARTICIPATION IN PUBLIC COMMENT,

I WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL WAIVE THE RULES TO ADOPT THIS AS IN

THE NOTICE.

09:17:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO MOVED.




09:17:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY

COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

09:17:13 >> AYE.

09:17:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

MR. SHELBY.

09:17:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND

ADDENDUM TO THE AGENDA.

YOU HAVE THE ADDENDUM IN FRONT OF YOU, AND THERE REALLY ARE

NO CHANGES.

TO NUMBER 36, JUST AN E-MAIL.

BUT NUMBER 57 IS ASKED TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA, IF

COUNCIL WISHES TO TAKE IT UP NOW OR TAKE IT UP -- ACTUALLY,

IT'S NOT ON THE ACTUAL AGENDA.

IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW, YOU CAN MOVE TO REMOVE NUMBER

57.

09:17:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE -- THAT IS

FILE NUMBER PW 22-72221.

09:18:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.

09:18:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

DO WE NEED ROLL CALL?




ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

09:18:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

09:18:14 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

09:18:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

09:18:16 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

09:18:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

09:18:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

09:18:19 >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK

BEING ABSENT.

09:18:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FINALLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, A REQUEST FROM THE

ADMINISTRATION TODAY TO MOVE UP ITEM NUMBER 56.

THERE'S ONLY ONE ITEM ON THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE, AND MR.

BENNETT IS HERE, AND HE WOULD LIKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE

ABLE TO DO THAT NOW, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, WITH COUNCIL'S

PLEASURE.

09:18:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, COUNCIL.

09:18:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITHOUT OBJECTION.

09:18:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
CHIEF BENNETT.

09:18:51 >>JOHN BENNETT:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

GOOD MORNING, PUBLIC.

JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.

I'M JOINED HERE TODAY BY LIEUTENANT COLONEL CONRAD SHUPE AND

HIS LOVELY WIFE.

THANK YOU FOR BOTH BEING HERE TODAY.

THE LIEUTENANT COLONEL WHO WORKS AT CENTCOM IS PART OF THE




DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE INTERN PROGRAM AS PART OF THEIR EXIT

STRATEGY OF THE MILITARY.

HE IS OUR FIRST INTERN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AS THE INAUGURAL

INTERN, I SHOULD SAY.

HE WORKED DIRECTLY UNDER MY OFFICE FROM THE MIDDLE OF

JANUARY TO THE MIDDLE OF APRIL AND DID AMAZING THINGS.

HE TOOK ON A PROJECT THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO

DO, WHICH WAS TO EXAMINE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE REQUISITE

STAFF IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO OPERATE IN A TELEWORKING

CAPACITY.

YOU KNOW WE DID THAT UNDER COVID CONDITIONS AS AN EMERGENCY

UNDER OUR CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT AND CONTINUITY OF

OPERATIONS, AND WE HAD ASKED LIEUTENANT COLONEL TO USE HIS

SKILLS FROM HIS MILITARY SERVICE TO LOOK AT OUR CIVILIAN

MODEL AND SEE IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A PROGRAM THAT WOULD

ALLOW SOME OF OUR PERSONNEL AND RESOURCES TO TELEWORK FOR

EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS AND EQUITY IN SERVICE WITHIN

THE CITY AND TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND AS HE APPROACHES HIS EXIT TIME AND RETIRES FROM THE

MILITARY, HE WAS LOOKING FOR A POSITION WITHIN CIVILIAN

GOVERNMENT.

SO WE'RE HOPING WE CAN ADOPT HIM AS PART OF THE BUDGET

PROCESS, AND I'M WORKING ON THAT AND WE WILL, OF COURSE,

PRESENT THAT TO YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

BUT I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE COUNCIL A CHANCE TO RECOGNIZE THE




LIEUTENANT COLONEL AND MacDILL AND CENTCOM SPECIFICALLY

FOR ALLOWING HIM TO JOIN OUR CITY GOVERNMENT FOR 90 DAYS AND

HIS IMMERSION AROUND THE CITY, AND I THINK HE SPENT SOME

TIME WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO WE'RE REALLY APPRECIATIVE

OF WHAT HE'S DONE.

BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO HIM, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU,

CHAIRMAN CITRO.

YOU PRO TEM COUNCILMAN GUIDO MANISCALCO AND, OF COURSE,

COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR THEIR SELECTIONS TODAY.

09:20:50 >> COUNCIL, JUST IN GENERAL, I DO WANT TO FIRST THANK THE

CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE MAYOR FOR ALLOWING ME THE

OPPORTUNITY.

IT WAS A GREAT HONOR TO BE ABLE TO BE INSERTED INTO THE

CITY.

WHAT I DISCOVERED WAS THE CITY EMPLOYEES HAVE A HUGE IMPACT

ON THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS YOU.

OF COURSE, THE MAYOR AND THE CHIEF.

SO FOR ME TO BE INTEGRATED INTO THE FOLD WAS JUST AN HONOR

AND A PLEASURE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:21:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCILMAN VIERA.

09:21:19 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, CHIEF BENNETT.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE, OBVIOUSLY, AND WHATNOT.




AND, YOU KNOW, IN OUR COUNTY, WE HAVE ABOUT 100,000

VETERANS, NOT INCLUDING THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES AND

HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS, ET CETERA.

WE'RE ALWAYS A VERY PATRIOTIC CITY.

I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO INTEGRATE THAT WITHIN

OUR CITY GOVERNMENT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

OUT OF CURIOSITY TO THE CHIEF, IF I MAY, LET ME ASK YOU, DO

WE HAVE ANY -- I'M SURE WE DO BECAUSE WE KNOW OF SOME, HOW

MANY ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY FOLKS DO WE HAVE SERVING

CONCURRENTLY IN THE CITY EITHER ATU, FIRST RESPONDERS,

WHATEVER IT MAY BE, IF YOU KNOW THAT?

09:22:01 >>JOHN BENNETT:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

GREAT QUESTION.

I LOOK AT A REPORT FROM OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT ON A

REGULAR BASIS TO NOT ONLY HONOR BUT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE

GETTING THE BENEFITS AS THEY ARE SERVING THE COUNTRY AND

MAKE SURE THEY COME BACK TO A WELL-POSITIONED JOB BACK AT

THE CITY.

AND WE HAVE TYPICALLY AROUND TWO DOZEN.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 26 IN SOME FORM.

ABOUT 70% OF THOSE ARE IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY GROUPS AND ABOUT

30% ARE OUR GENERAL EMPLOYEE GROUPS THAT ARE SERVING THE

COUNTRY AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

09:22:29 >>LUIS VIERA:
GREAT.

THANK YOU, SIR, VERY MUCH.




JUST LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU, SIR, AND WHATNOT AND

WELCOME AND JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

TODAY IS -- I THINK MAY 5th IS A NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER.

I ALWAYS SAY THAT OUR MILITARY ARE OFTEN THE ANSWERED

PRAYERS FOR MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY AND THROUGHOUT THE

WORLD.

THANK YOU.

I WOULD BE REMISS, BY THE WAY, HE WILL PUNCH ME FOR THIS

LATER, BUT WE HAVE IN THE AUDIENCE COLONEL DJ REYES -- THERE

HE GOES SMIRKING AT ME -- ONE OF OUR MOST DISTINGUISHED

LOCAL VETERANS HERE.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I KNOW YOU'RE DEALING A LOT WITH MacDILL.

I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS DONE A LOT TO BRING ATTENTION

TO THE IMPORTANCE THAT HAS FOR OUR CITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:23:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:23:10 >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, SAME THING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND ALL THE SERVICE PEOPLE

SERVING NOW, FULL-TIME, RESERVISTS AND THE RETIREES AND

THEIR FAMILIES.

YEARS AGO, I WAS HONOR COMMANDER, SO I GOT TO LEARN A LOT

ABOUT MacDILL.

MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE'S HUSBAND WAS SQUADRON COMMANDER AT

MacDILL, SO I LEARNED A LOT THAT WAY.




THROUGH THE TAMPA CHAMBER, WE'VE DONE A LOT TO SUPPORT

PEOPLE TRANSITIONING.

THROUGH THAT, I'VE HAD A LOT OF COFFEES WITH PEOPLE LOOKING

AT TRANSITIONING.

IF YOU EVER NEED TO HAVE COFFEE, TALK ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES IN

THE FUTURE OR HELP WITH ANYBODY YOU KNOW THAT'S LOOKING TO

TRANSITION, MY OTHER JOB, I HAVE A PR FIRM AND THERE ARE

LOTS OF GREAT PUBLIC AFFAIRS PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN CYCLING

THROUGH, BESIDES FANTASTIC MANAGERS AND FINANCIAL PEOPLE AND

OTHERS.

AND THEY ARE JUST A GREAT ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEADERSHIP ACROSS OUR BUSINESS AND

VOLUNTEER COMMUNITY, IS THERE ARE MacDILL PEOPLE

EVERYWHERE.

THANK YOU.

09:24:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:24:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

LIEUTENANT COLONEL, IT'S A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

IF I REMEMBER THE NUMBERS I BELIEVE MacDILL IS NUMBER

ONE OR NUMBER TWO IN THE COUNTRY WHERE PEOPLE WHO COME TO

MacDILL STAY IN TAMPA AFTER THEY RETIRE.

I SOMEWHERE NEAR?

09:24:25 >> YOU'RE RIGHT.

JUST SO HAPPENS I'M FROM TAMPA.

MAKE MY WAY TO MacDILL, THIS IS MY FINAL STOP, YES.




09:24:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT SHOWS YOU THAT THERE IS A BRIDGE BETWEEN MacDILL

AND THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY BECAUSE WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT

YOU GET.

EVIDENTLY IT MUST BE PRETTY GOOD BECAUSE A LOT OF RETIREES

ARE STAYING HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CONGRATULATIONS ONCE AGAIN.

09:24:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING A PART OF THE TAMPA FAMILY AND

FOR KEEPING, AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, THAT BRIDGE OPEN

BETWEEN MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:24:56 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:24:59 >>JOHN BENNETT:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL AND MR. SHELBY, FOR

ACCEPTING THAT AGENDA ITEM MOVED UP.

09:25:05 >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIR, CHIEF BENNETT, ARE WE DOING YOUR

ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE?

09:25:11 >>JOHN BENNETT:
THAT WAS THE ONLY ITEM.

09:25:13 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I ASK YOU TWO QUESTIONS.

09:25:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:25:17 >>BILL CARLSON:
NUMBER ONE IS, I ACCIDENTALLY MISSED A

MEETING A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO THAT WAS ABOUT WATER BONDS.

MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE COMMUNITY IS THERE'S A DISCUSSION

ABOUT BUILDING, THE WATER DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THE WATER




DEPARTMENT HAS SO MUCH EXCESS CASH THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING

TO BUILD A $42 MILLION OFFICE BUILDING FOR 35 PEOPLE THAT

WILL INCLUDE A WELCOME AND EDUCATION CENTER.

WE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HANNA AVENUE, BUT WITH ALL THE

OTHER NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE CRUNCH ON PEOPLE

ECONOMICALLY IN THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE WOULD

LOWER WATER RATES AND GIVE THE COMMUNITY A BREAK RATHER THAN

SPENDING MONEY ON A 42 OR EVEN IF IT IS A $30 MILLION

BUILDING FOR 35 PEOPLE.

09:26:00 >>JOHN BENNETT:
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT BACK TO THE

DEPARTMENT.

09:26:04 >>BILL CARLSON:
THE HANNA AVENUE PROJECT, ALL IN, PROBABLY

200, 220 MILLION FOR 500 PEOPLE.

THE PER SQUARE FOOT ON THAT IS MANY TIMES WHAT THE STANDARD

IN THE INDUSTRY IS.

I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT THIS MORNING.

IT WOULD BE GROSSLY EXPENSIVE AND UNNECESSARY.

IF THE WATER DEPARTMENT HAS SO MUCH MONEY THEY CAN SPEND ON

THAT, I WOULD SUGGEST WE ROLL BACK RATES.

NUMBER TWO IS THAT I THINK ALL OF US -- I DON'T KNOW IF

ANYBODY ELSE WAS BRIEFED IN ADVANCE BUT ALL OF US FOUND OUT

ON FRIDAY THROUGH A PRESS CONFERENCE THE MAYOR HAD THAT THE

CITY OF TAMPA HAS BEEN UNDER THE SECOND JUSTICE DEPARTMENT

INVESTIGATION FOR CIVIL RIGHTS IN SEVEN YEARS.

AND THAT THAT STARTED IN DECEMBER, AND THERE WAS A CLAIM




MADE ON FRIDAY THAT WAS THE RESULT OF A HUD LETTER.

HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT THE CIVIL RIGHTS GROUPS HERE REACHED OUT

TO THEIR NATIONAL PEOPLE LAST YEAR, AND THEY DEMANDED THAT

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DO AN INVESTIGATION.

MY QUESTION IS, TWO QUESTIONS, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT IT IS?

NUMBER TWO, WHY WASN'T CITY COUNCIL NOTIFIED?

DON'T YOU THINK WE SHOULD KNOW IF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS

INVESTIGATING THE CITY FOR CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS FOR THE

SECOND TIME IN SEVEN YEARS?

09:27:14 >>JOHN BENNETT:
I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE STATUS OF THE

INVESTIGATION.

I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT AS SOON AS WE WERE MADE

AWARE, WE MADE EVERYBODY ELSE AWARE THROUGH THE MAYOR'S

OFFICE.

09:27:23 >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T THINK CITY COUNCIL WAS MADE AWARE AT

ALL.

WE FOUND OUT THROUGH THE MEDIA.

THERE WAS A PRESS RELEASE SENT ON A FRIDAY THAT SAID SAVE

NEIGHBORHOODS AND VICTIMS SHOULD BE PROTECTED.

AND THE PRESS CONFERENCE ENDED UP BEING A 4:00 FRIDAY DUMP

OF NEGATIVE INFORMATION WHICH IS THAT WE WERE UNDER CIVIL

RIGHTS INVESTIGATION.

I FIND THAT REALLY OFFENSIVE AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

I HAD CALLS OVER THE WEEKEND ASKING HOW COME WE'RE UNDER

CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATION AND YOU DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY.




I SAID I DIDN'T KNOW.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS GOING ON THAT WE

DON'T KNOW ABOUT?

09:27:55 >>JOHN BENNETT:
I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT.

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY.

09:27:58 >>BILL CARLSON:
I MAKE A MOTION AT THE END TO HAVE STAFF

COME BACK AND GIVE US A REPORT ON IT.

BUT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, WHY WAS

IMPORTANT INFORMATION NOT GIVEN IN DECEMBER WHEN IT

HAPPENED?

SECOND, WHY WAS IT DUMPED ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON?

ALLEGATIONS IN A COUPLE OF MEDIA OUTLETS, THERE WAS

MISLEADING INFORMATION.

I DON'T KNOW THE FACTS.

I CAN'T RESPOND.

ONLY READ THE LETTERS THAT WERE IN THE ARTICLES.

WAS ANYBODY ELSE ON CITY COUNCIL BRIEFED ON FRIDAY IN

ADVANCE OF THAT?

09:28:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I GOT A CALL FRIDAY AFTERNOON.

09:28:29 >>BILL CARLSON:
BESIDES FRIDAY, WAS ANYBODY BRIEFED IN

DECEMBER?

09:28:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HAVE YOU HAD YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED OR ARE

YOU SATISFIED?

09:28:41 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.

09:28:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.




09:28:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CHIEF, THE SUMMER IS APPROACHING.

OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE EAGER TO WORK.

A LOT OF PEOPLE CALL ME ASKING IS THE CITY -- VERSUS SOME OF

THE YOUNG PEOPLE PICKING UP TRASH, ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES

WHERE CAN BE MENTOR IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY DURING THE

SUMMER WORK TIME VERSUS PICKING UP TRASH.

I SAID I WOULD ADDRESS THAT.

IT WAS BROUGHT UP SOME TIME AGO BUT NEVER GOT ANSWERS.

THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING WE HAVE SUMMER JOBS.

THERE'S MONEY.

CAN WE FIND A WAY TO HAVE THE KIDS HAVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES

VERSUS PICKING UP TRASH?

09:29:18 >>JOHN BENNETT:
IT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

AS YOU KNOW WITH YOUR TIME AND INVESTMENT IN OUR PARKS

PROGRAM, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF REC LEADER POSITIONS AND

AQUATIC LEADER POSITIONS THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FILL.

FORTUNATELY, WE WERE ABLE TO RAISE THE RATES FOR THOSE

OPPORTUNITIES DURING THE SUMMER.

WE PUT FLYERS OUT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THE SCHOOL RESOURCE

OFFICERS ARE RECRUITING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, SO THERE'S

STILL PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES IN THE PARK PROGRAM TO HAVE

WORKFORCE OPPORTUNITY AS WELL AS A MENTORING OPPORTUNITY

WITH CITY GOVERNMENT.

09:29:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BUT I THINK THEY ARE LOOKING -- I KNOW WE

HAVE ALWAYS -- THE PARK IS A GREAT PLACE TO START.




IT STARTS IN THE PARKS.

I THINK THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A TRANSITION OF OTHER AREAS

THAT THEY MIGHT WORK IN VERSUS JUST PARKS AND REC OR PICKING

UP TRASH.

IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO MAYBE FIND A FEW TO START SOMETHING,

IT WOULD BE A GREAT START.

09:30:04 >>JOHN BENNETT:
OKAY.

I'LL TALK TO OUR WORKFORCE DIRECTOR AND SEE IF WE CAN BRING

IN OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

THANKS FOR MENTIONING IT.

09:30:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, CHIEF.

I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THE STAFF REPORTS.

QUESTION IF WE STILL WANT STAFF TO BE HERE OR WHETHER WE'RE

GOOD -- ITEM 57.

WE'RE GOOD.

THAT'S CORRECT.

ITEM 58?

09:30:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO

HAVE STAFF APPEAR OR NOT ON ITEM 58?

YOU HAVE A MEMORANDUM FROM BRAD BAIRD.

09:30:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ITEM 59.

09:30:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SO NO STAFF ON NUMBER 58, SIR?

NO STAFF NECESSARY.

09:31:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF TO BE HERE TO ANSWER

THE QUESTIONS?




COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:31:06 >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, CHIEF BENNETT IS HERE AND MAYBE

OTHER STAFF ARE LISTENING.

I SAID A LOT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS ABOUT BRANDING

THINGS.

I THINK SOMETIMES OUR BRANDING IS OFF AND DISINGENUOUS.

HAVING A PRESS CONFERENCE AND SAYING THAT WE NOW HAVE THIS

NEW INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN FOR NEIGHBORHOODS AND CALLING IT

TAMPA'S NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN-BUILD AND THE PUBLIC CALLS AND

SAYS WHAT'S NEW ABOUT IT AND IT'S JUST A REPACKAGING OF PURE

AND PIPES AND STORMWATER AND MOBILITY, IT'S NOT REALLY

ANYTHING NEW.

IT'S JUST DEFINING IT BY NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS REALLY NEED IS PLANNING.

WE NEED TO UPDATE PLANNING.

I KNOW THAT THE ADMINISTRATION BROUGHT IN STEPHEN BENSON,

WHO IS AWESOME, BUT WE NEED TO RAMP UP THAT PLANNING QUICKLY

BECAUSE REPLACING THE PIPES WE ALREADY AGREED ON SEVERAL

YEARS AGO ISN'T A NEW IDEA TO HELP NEIGHBORHOODS.

THANK YOU.

09:31:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

ITEM 59.

09:32:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK, AND

IT'S AWAITING A SIGNATURE.




YOU CAN TAKE IT UP AS YOU COME ALONG.

09:32:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE'LL TAKE THAT UP WHEN WE COME ALONG.

ITEM NUMBER 60.

09:32:21 >> [INAUDIBLE]

09:32:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:32:23 >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS WAS -- I THINK MAYBE I MADE THE FIRST

MOTION.

SAYS GUIDO MADE THE FIRST MOTION.

BUT THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THERE IS -- IN THE ALLOCATION OF

THE 500 MILLION OR SO THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PAID IN TAXES FOR

THE LAST ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION, SOME PEOPLE ARE ESTIMATING

THAT THE CITY MIGHT GET SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 80 AND 120

MILLION.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS, AS I SAW IT, ANYWAY, IS FOR US AND,

MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE PUBLIC TO GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION

INPUT AS TO HOW THAT MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT IF IT COMES TO

US.

I TALKED TO VIK, AND HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE ABOUT -- HAVE

MORE CERTAINTY ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY IS COMING AND WHEN.

THE IDEA HERE IS NOT TO HAVE A STAFF REPORT; IT IS ONLY TO

HAVE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION SO THE PUBLIC CAN GIVE US INPUT AS

TO WHAT THEY WANT US TO SPEND MONEY ON.

POTHOLES AND SIDEWALKS ARE TWO MAJOR PRIORITIES.

IF WE HAD 80 OR 120 MILLION, HOW WOULD WE SPEND THE MONEY?

THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION AND TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.




THANK YOU.

09:33:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. BHIDE ASKED FOR A 60 DAY CONTINUANCE.

CAN WE TAKE CARE OF THAT NOW?

09:33:28 >>BILL CARLSON:
I MAKE THE MOTION --

09:33:29 >> SECOND.

09:33:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE]

09:33:34 >> JULY 14.

09:33:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED

BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

09:33:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, MARTIN SHELBY.

WITH REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 60, I WANT IT TO BE CLEAR THAT'S

COMING BACK UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

ANYBODY WHO DID WANT TO SPEAK TO IT WOULD NOT HAVE THE

OPPORTUNITY UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

THEY'D HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THAT MORNING UNDER

PUBLIC COMMENT.

UNLESS COUNCIL WANTS TO DO IT SOMEWHAT DIFFERENTLY OR SET IT

FOR A WORKSHOP.

HOWEVER COUNCIL WISHES TO DO IT, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE,

UNLESS COUNCIL MAKES A MOTION AND ACCEPTS OPENING UP THE

FLOOR FOR A STAFF REPORT, WHICH IS RATHER UNUSUAL.

09:34:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:34:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M NOT IN DISAGREEMENT WITH WHAT WAS

SAID.




YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME TO SPEAK EARLY AND CAN'T STAY IN

THE AFTERNOON AND THEY LEAVE.

YOU'RE GETTING MORE BUT GETTING LESS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHICH WAY THEY WANT TO GO.

09:34:41 >> [INAUDIBLE]

09:34:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WELL, IF THE PURPOSE IS FOR PRESENTATION

AND THEN -- JUST PUBLIC INPUT.

09:34:54 >>BILL CARLSON:
WE PUT IT IN THE MORNING.

OKAY.

DO WE NEED TO MAKE THE MOTION AGAIN?

09:35:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WOULD APPEAR ON THE

AGENDA.

THEY COULD SPEAK TO WHATEVER THE ITEM IS THAT DAY UNDER

PUBLIC COMMENT.

BUT TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

09:35:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE COUNCIL CAN DIRECT THE CLERK'S OFFICE

WHAT TIME THEY WANT IT, AT ANY TIME THEY WISH TO DO THAT,

SIR.

09:35:15 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN WE SAY 9:00 OR 10:00?

09:35:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
9:00, START OF THE MEETING.

09:35:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU'RE AMENDING YOUR MOTION.

09:35:25 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, PLEASE.

09:35:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND TO THE AMENDMENT.

09:35:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON MADE A MOTION.

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS SECONDED.




ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

09:35:34 >>THE CLERK:
[INAUDIBLE]

09:35:38 >>BILL CARLSON:
MAKE IT THE FIRST THING AFTER.

I HAVE A COMMENT ON THE NEXT ONE, IF YOU WANT.

09:35:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ITEM 61.

09:35:48 >>BILL CARLSON:
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THIS FROM THE

AGENDA.

THE POLICE CHIEF SENT A REPORT.

THE POINT OF THIS IS THAT IF A POLICE OFFICER IN THE LINE OF

DUTY GETS A TICKET FROM THE CITY, THE CITY CAN EASILY CANCEL

IT.

BUT THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE PRIVATE PARKING VENDORS WILL

GIVE A TICKET TO A POLICE OFFICER, AND THEY HAVE TO PAY IT

THEMSELVES.

UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T GIVE CHIEF O'CONNOR MORE FEEDBACK

WITHOUT TELLING HER ALL THE SOURCES THAT I TALKED TO.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO MAKE SURE WE

REMOVE THE BURDEN OF THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE TRYING TO

SERVE US ALL.

AND I MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THIS FROM THE AGENDA.

09:36:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?




62.

09:36:42 >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M SORRY.

I JUST WALKED IN FROM USING THE RESTROOM.

ARE WE GOING OVER WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED STAFF THERE?

09:36:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

09:36:49 >>LUIS VIERA:
MEMO IS FINE.

09:36:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ITEM NUMBER 63.

HAVE STAFF HERE FOR 63.

64.

09:37:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M HERE, COUNCIL.

09:37:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ITEM 65.

09:37:05 >> SAME THING.

09:37:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER CHANGES TO OUR AGENDA?

SEEING NONE, WE WILL OPEN OUR FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'M SORRY.

MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

09:37:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]

09:37:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. MACKLE.

09:37:35 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
GOOD MORNING.

CONGRATULATIONS, MR. CHAIR.

CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I'M HERE -- I REPRESENT THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.




THE BOARD IS HERE -- THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD IS HERE TO

PRESENT THE 2021 ANNUAL REPORT.

IF I CAN ASK FOR THE CHAIR AND THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS TO

COME FORWARD, I'LL INTRODUCE THEM.

ALSO IN THE AUDIENCE, WE HAVE OUR TPD COORDINATOR WHO IS

CAPTAIN PATRICK MESSMER.

HE'S HERE ALSO.

MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS IS THE CHAIR OF THE

CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.

MR. AQUIL, OUR CURRENT VICE-CHAIR IS COLONEL REYES AND

CARLOS VALDES IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.

THEY ARE READY TO PRESENT THE 2021 ANNUAL REPORT.

THAT REPORT IS REQUIRED ACCORDING TO CODE SECTION 18-8

SUBSECTION I-2.

09:38:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. AQUIL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

09:38:36 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND CITY COUNCIL.

RASHEED AQUIL, ACTING CHAIR OF THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD.

I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE CRB TO PRESENT THE 2021

ANNUAL REPORT SUPPORTED BY THE NEW ADOPTED ORDINANCE 18-8,

WHICH I BELIEVE YOU ALL RECEIVE A COPY OF THAT ANNUAL

REPORT.

IF YOU WILL, WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE PowerPoint

PRESENTATION ACKNOWLEDGING SOME OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THE

CRB DURING THE YEAR 2021.

UNDER HERE, SECTION 1, THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD OF THE




TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS CREATED BY THE TAMPA CITY

ORDINANCE SECTION 18-8.

THE PURPOSE OF THE CRB BOARD IS A GROUP SELECTED, UNBIASED

MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THE PURPOSE OF FOSTERING

TRANSPARENCY, SUPPORTING THE POLICY, POLICING AND POLICE

REFORM, TO ENHANCE COMMUNICATION WHILE EDUCATING THE PUBLIC

REGARDING THE OPERATIONS OF THE TPD.

PROTECTING CIVIL RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES.

MANAGING RISK AND ESTABLISHING GREATER CONFIDENCE IN THE

DEPARTMENT AND ENSURING A RELATIONSHIP OF TRUST AND RESPECT

BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY BY CREATED AN

UNBIASED PANEL OF CITIZENS TO REVIEW CASES AND ISSUES

RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT ARE OF IMPORTANCE OR OF

INTEREST TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY.

TO INCREASE AND DEMONSTRATE POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY,

CREDIBILITY WITH THE PUBLIC.

OUR CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD CONSISTS OF 11 VOTING MEMBERS, FIVE

APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR, FIVE APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL, AND

ONE APPOINTED BY THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION ADVANCEMENT OF

COLORED PEOPLE, THE NAACP.

HERE I HAVE PRESENT OUR VICE-CHAIR AS WELL AS ONE OF OUR

VOTING MEMBERS, MR. VALDES AND ALSO COLONEL REYES.

HERE IN SECTION 2, THERE WERE NINE MEETINGS CONDUCTED DURING

THE YEAR 2021.

THE BOARD REVIEWED 11 CLOSED INTERNAL AFFAIRS




INVESTIGATIONS, TOTAL OF 40 ALLEGED POLICY VIOLATIONS.

THE MOST FREQUENTLY ADDRESSED VIOLATION WAS THE STANDARD OF

CONDUCT.

JUST CONTINUING, DR. COLLINS REPRESENTED THE CRB DURING THE

HIRING PANEL.

NOW, IN REFERENCE TO THE POLICE HIRING PANEL, THERE IS A

LIST OF ALL MEMBERS OF THE CRB.

WE ARE USING THAT LIST TO DETERMINE WHICH MEMBER WOULD BE

NEXT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HIRING

PROCESS.

ONCE ALL THE MEMBERS HAVE PARTICIPATED, THEN WE WILL OPEN UP

FOR DISCUSSION, WHICH MAY LEAD TO FUTURE RECOMMENDATIONS.

ADDITIONAL TOPICS OF DISCUSSION DURING THE 2021 MEETINGS WAS

THE UPDATE ON THE MAYOR'S TASK FORCE ON POLICING, NEW CRISIS

INTERVENTION RESPONSE TEAM, QUALITY ASSURANCE REPORT AND

ALSO THE CRIME-FREE MULTI-HOUSING PROGRAM.

CONTINUING WITH SECTION 3, DURING THE 2021, THE TAMPA POLICE

DEPARTMENT RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 241 CITIZEN COMPLAINTS.

CITIZENS MAY NOW SEND THEIR COMPLAINTS TO THE CRB VIA

E-MAIL.

WE CURRENTLY RECEIVING OUR MONTHLY TRACKING LOG ON REFERENCE

TO COMPLAINTS AS WELL.

CONTINUING WITH SECTION 4, CRB CAN MAKE ONE OF THE FOLLOWING

RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE CONCUR WITH THE PROPOSED DETERMINATION OF THE DISPOSITION




OF THE COMPLAINT AND DISCIPLINE.

THE CRB DOES NOT CONCUR WITH THE DISPOSITION OF THE

COMPLAINT AND DISCIPLINE AS WELL AS THE CRB IS UNABLE TO

REACH A DECISION IN WHICH CASE THEY SPECIFY THE REASON

THERETO.

OTHER CASES REVIEWED BY THE CRB, THE BOARD CONCURRED WITH

THE DETERMINATION OF DISPOSITION IN 10 OUT OF THE 11 CASES.

THE CRB DID NOT MAKE ANY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE

DEPARTMENT, MAYOR, OR CHIEF OF POLICE DURING THE YEAR OF

2021.

THE CRB REVIEWED THE DEPARTMENT'S BODY WORN CAMERA POLICY

AND HAD NO RECOMMENDATIONS AT THAT MOMENT.

CONTINUING WITH SECTION 6, MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL

SHALL ATTEND AT LEAST ONE CRB MEETING.

I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN CITRO ATTENDED IN

JUNE OF 2021 AT THAT MEETING.

NEW PROVISIONS OF THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THE CRB TO CONDUCT

FOUR COMMUNITY-WIDE MEETINGS IN EACH SINGLE-MEMBER COUNCIL

DISTRICT.

I BELIEVE DURING OUR LAST MEETING, WE IDENTIFIED FOUR OF

THOSE LOCATIONS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DISTRICT 5 BEING THAT

WE CONDUCT OUR MEETING IN CITY HALL, WHICH SITS IN DISTRICT

5.

OF THE OTHER FOUR DISTRICTS, I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE LOCATION,

AND TBA IN REFERENCE TO TIME, ACCORDING TO AVAILABILITY.




SECTION 7, CRB REVISED THE AGENDA FORMAT TO MONITOR CASES.

THAT REVISION CAME TO FOLLOW UP FROM OUR PUBLIC COMMENT

SECTION.

THERE WERE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WHO WISHED TO RESPOND AND

INTERACT, PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO WE ADVISE THE AGENDA TO FIT ACCORDINGLY.

STAFF CAN PROVIDE UPDATES TO THE BOARD.

THAT WOULD CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION IN REFERENCE TO THE 2021

ANNUAL REPORT.

09:44:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:44:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.

GOOD MORNING, SIR.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

ONLY QUESTION I HAD AT THIS TIME WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT

SECTION 2, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HIRING PROCESS.

AS MS. COLLINS KIND OF STATED HOW THAT'S BEEN GOING OR WHAT

THE PROCESS IS AT THIS TIME.

YOU STATED YOU'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THE MEMBERS, WHICH

WOULD BE 11 MEMBERS AND MAKE A FINAL CONCLUSION.

RIGHT NOW SHE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S BEEN THROUGH THE

PROCESS?

09:45:10 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

WE DECIDED TO HOLD OUR COMMENTS AND STATEMENTS UNTIL EACH

ONE OF THE MEMBERS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE TO

ENSURE THAT THERE WERE NO LEADING OR OPEN DISCUSSION WHERE




ONE COULD NOT COMMENT.

SHE HAS BEEN THE ONLY ONE TO COMPLETE THAT PROCESS UP TO

THIS POINT, BUT WE DO HAVE A CURRENT LIST OF OTHER MEMBERS

THAT SHOULD BE JOINING THE HIRING PROCESS.

I BELIEVE IT'S ON A QUARTER SYSTEM AS WELL.

09:45:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
A QUARTER SYSTEM.

ONE OR TWO PEOPLE DURING THAT QUARTER?

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 11 PEOPLE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SYSTEM THAT WILL TAKE A WHILE FOR

EVERYONE TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS, IF YOU'RE SAYING THIS

WILL BE A PART OF YOUR PROCESS TO GET THE FINAL RESULT IF

THE PROCESS, IF THE HIRING PROCESS IS WORKING FOR THE POLICE

DEPARTMENT.

09:45:56 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

09:45:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I HAVE CONCERNS IF WE'RE SAYING ONE PERSON

IS GOING A QUARTER AND IT'S A YEARLY REPORT.

THAT MEANS WE WOULD NEVER GET EVERYBODY BEING A PART OF THE

PROCESS.

09:46:08 >> IN REFERENCE TO THE NEW ORDINANCE, IT WAS PRESENTED WHERE

ONE MEMBER PARTICIPATE IN THAT HIRING PROCESS AT A TIME.

SO, AGAIN, WE'RE OPERATING UNDER THAT NEW ORDINANCE AND

ABIDING.

UNFORTUNATELY, YES, I DO SEE A CHALLENGE IN REFERENCE TO THE

QUARTERLY.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MAYBE CAN LOOK BACK AT AND DISCUSS




WITH MEMBERS AND SEE IF WE CAN ORCHESTRATE SOMETHING A

LITTLE BIT BETTER TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THE RESULTS IN A

NECESSARY TIME FRAME AND BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH OTHER

RECOMMENDATIONS.

09:46:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE REASON I ASK THAT, YOU BROUGHT THAT UP

SAYING YOU WANT EVERYBODY TO DO THAT, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW

YOU COULD DO THAT.

MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOUR BOARD NEEDS TO DISCUSS.

MAYBE ONE OR TWO, AND THAT MAY HELP ALONG.

THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN GET WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH

IN THAT YEAR TIME TO GIVE ME A REPORT BACK TO SAY THIS IS

WHAT WE BELIEVE IS GOOD.

THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE IS BAD.

IT MIGHT BE A DISCUSSION AND MAYBE THE COUNCIL HAVE THE

DISCUSSION.

THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL WAS OR THAT'S WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION

THAT YOUR BOARD VOTED ON TO DO.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT IF THAT'S THE CASE.

I DON'T MIND THAT.

GOOD IDEA.

I THINK YOU NEED MORE THAN ONE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU'RE

TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH TO GET US WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

THANK YOU, SIR.

09:47:18 >> THANK YOU.

09:47:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.




09:47:20 >>BILL CARLSON:
MAYBE THIS IS TOO RECENT, BUT WAS THE CRB

ASKED FOR THEIR ADVICE ON WHETHER THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE A

MUTE BUTTON ON THE BODY-WORN CAMERAS?

HAVE YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT THAT ISSUE AT ALL?

I SAW YOU HAD THE OTHER TOPICS, HAVE YOU ALL DISCUSSED THAT

ISSUE?

09:47:41 >> WE DID HAVE A RECENT PRESENTATION IN REFERENCE TO THE NEW

BUTTON.

THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION.

AT THIS POINT, THERE WASN'T ANY ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION TO

SEE HOW THAT FEATURE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO PLAY OUT.

IT DID GET A GREAT RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD, AND WE'LL SEE

HOW THAT NEW TECHNOLOGY BUTTON WORKS.

09:48:00 >>BILL CARLSON:
IT SEEMS LIKE IN THE COMMUNITY PEOPLE ON ALL

SIDES ARE LOOKING AT PROS AND CONS.

IF YOU HAVE FEEDBACK ON IT IN THE FUTURE, PLEASE LET US

KNOW.

THE SECOND THING, YOU MENTIONED CRIME-FREE MULTI-HOUSING,

THE NEW VERSION WHICH CITY COUNCIL HELPED NEGOTIATE IS

CALLED SAFE, AND IT TAKES OUT A LOT OF THE MORE RACIST

POLICIES.

HAVE YOU ALL -- WAS THE CRB MADE AWARE THAT THE JUSTICE

DEPARTMENT WAS INVESTIGATING THE CITY STARTING IN DECEMBER

OR DID YOU ALL FIND OUT WITH US ON FRIDAY?

09:48:36 >> I CAN'T SPEAK IN REFERENCE TO THE ENTIRE BOARD, BUT --




09:48:42 >>BILL CARLSON:
BUT AS A BOARD, NOBODY PRESENTED TO YOU ALL.

09:48:46 >> WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY NOTIFICATION AS A BOARD.

09:48:49 >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IF

YOU HAVE FEEDBACK.

IF YOU HAVE FEEDBACK INDIVIDUALLY OR AS A GROUP ON THAT

INVESTIGATION, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

IT BOTHERS ME AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY

BECAUSE THE SECOND JUSTICE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATION IN SEVEN

YEARS.

AND WE KNOW ANECDOTALLY THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN IN THE

COMMUNITY ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS ABUSES.

AND THAT'S NOT -- THAT'S NOT -- JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, IT

IS NOT A RANK-AND-FILE POLICE ISSUE.

IT IS A POLICY ISSUE.

SOMEBODY CREATED A POLICY TO DO THIS AND THE HARDWORKING MEN

AND WOMEN OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE FOLLOWING ORDERS, BUT

THE QUESTION IS, WHAT SHOULD THE POLICIES BE GOING FORWARD

AND HOW SHOULD WE ADDRESS THOSE?

THANK YOU.

09:49:27 >> THANK YOU.

09:49:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?

COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

09:49:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I SAW THERE THAT TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD

MORE RECENTLY ATTENDED THE MEETINGS -- YES, RIGHT THERE.

I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A MEETING SINCE BEFORE COVID AND, OF




COURSE, EVERYTHING CHANGED.

BUT I WILL BE, NOW THAT WE'RE BACK IN PERSON AND WHATNOT,

YOU'LL SEE ME AT THE MEETINGS.

I WAS WATCHING EVERYTHING IN THE BACK IN MY OFFICE AND I

HAVE THE REPORT HERE.

I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

AND THANK YOU FOR SERVING ON THE BOARD.

I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY.

WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU.

09:50:01 >> QUITE WELCOME.

09:50:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.

09:50:02 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WANT TO ECHO WHAT EVERYONE HAS SAID, MOST RECENTLY

COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

THANK YOU FOR SERVING ON THIS BOARD.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SERVING HERE, WE

REALLY HAVE SOME OF OUR MOST DISTINGUISHED PEOPLE IN OUR

CITY FROM DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE SERVING ON THIS BOARD.

AND IT REALLY HELPS BREATHE, I THINK, A LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE

IN THE BOARD IN TERMS OF THE QUALITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE

THERE, WHO COME FROM MANY, MANY DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE AND

BRING SO MUCH EXPERIENCE THERE.

SO COUNCILMAN CARLSON MENTIONED THE ISSUE OF THE BODY

CAMERAS AND THE MUTE BUTTONS ON THERE.

I GUESS I'LL BE FOLLOWING UP ON THAT.




I HADN'T HEARD MUCH ON THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING OF INTEREST AND WHATNOT.

I ALSO AM DUE, AS THEY SAY, DUE FOR A CHECKUP, I'M DUE TO GO

TO YOUR ALL'S MEETING.

I DON'T THINK I'VE BEEN IN A YEAR AND A HALF.

SO I AM DUE AS WELL.

YOU WILL SEE ME THERE.

I'M DUE FOR A CHECKUP.

I ALSO, AGAIN, WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE

ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

THE LAST MEETING I WENT TO MUST HAVE BEEN MID 2020 AND YOU

ALL CARRY A HEAVY AGENDA AND A BIG DUTY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT.

THANK YOU.

09:51:14 >> THANK YOU.

09:51:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?

WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE WITH

YOU?

09:51:19 >> YES.

ON MY RIGHT IS COLONEL REYES, ALSO THE ACTING VICE-CHAIR OF

THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD.

AND ALSO OUR VOTING MEMBER MR. CARLOS VALDES.

09:51:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
CONGRATULATIONS, GENTLEMEN.

PLEASE, COLONEL.

09:51:35 >> COUNCILMEN, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.




I'M VERY HUMBLED AND HONORED TO HAVE BEEN APPOINTED AND TO

SERVE THIS GREAT CITY.

09:51:43 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

AS THIS NEW YEAR APPROACHES, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALSO WORKING

WITH THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDING MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT

SO WE CAN MEET THE -- HAVE THEIR OPINIONS COUNTED IN ALL THE

MATTERS THAT WE REVIEW.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR MEETINGS THAT WE'LL BE HOLDING

IN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.

SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL AS THAT'S COMING DOWN THE

PIPELINE.

WE ALSO WANT TO WORK WITH THE PR OR MARKETING TEAM IN THE

CITY SO WE CAN PROMOTE THE MEETINGS SO WE CAN GET AS MANY

ATTENDEES ATTEND THE MEETINGS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THOSE SCHEDULED MEETINGS.

09:52:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE'LL HEAR FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

09:52:24 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
THANK YOU.

CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THE BOARD TO PRESENT THE 2021 ANNUAL

REPORT.

I WILL BE, AS STATED FROM MR. VALDES, I WILL BE COORDINATING

WITH THE LEGISLATIVE AIDES TO GET THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS

SCHEDULED, AND I'VE ALREADY INITIATED THAT PROCESS SO YOU'LL

BE HEARING ABOUT THAT MORE SOON ABOUT THE DATES FOR THE




COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

ALSO, ACCORDING TO CODE SECTION 18-8, SUBSECTION I-2, I'M

PRESENTING TO MR. SHELBY THE CERTIFICATION THAT EACH COUNCIL

MEMBER MUST SIGN REGARDING THE PRESENTATION OF THE ANNUAL

REPORT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.

09:53:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IF NO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAS ANY, IT WAS

MY HOPE THAT THIS BOARD WOULD GROW ORGANICALLY, AND IT HAS.

I WAS ALSO HOPING THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THE CITY COUNCIL

MEMBERS HERE A LIST OF DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT YOU MAY THINK

YOU MAY NEED, YOU MAY WANT TO HELP BETTER YOUR BOARD

MEETINGS, TO HELP BETTER YOUR IDEAS AND THOUGHTS ABOUT YOUR

BOARD.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THOSE ITEMS LISTED?

WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT ANY OF THOSE ITEMS IN THE FUTURE?

09:53:39 >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

WE CAN LIST THOSE THINGS IN THE FUTURE.

BEING THAT WE'RE UNDER THIS NEW ORDINANCE, I WOULD PREFER TO

USE THE TOOLS GIVEN TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT BEFORE MAKING

ANY ADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENTS.

WE'RE STILL GETTING ACCLIMATED TO THE NEW PROCESS.

IF THERE ARE CHANGES MADE, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET

A RECOMMENDATION.

09:54:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PLEASE LET US KNOW.

AS COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE ON




YOUR BOARD.

TELL THEM WE SAID THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

WE WILL NOW HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:54:35 >> GOOD MORNING, AND THANK YOU.

WHITMORE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CITY TREE, ORGANIZER OF THE

GO FUND ME TO DEFEND DINGFELDER.

IN THE INTEREST OF FULL DISCLOSURE, POLITICAL CARTOONIST FOR

THE CREATIVE LOAFING.

I LOOK FORWARD TO DRAWING YOU SOON.

[ LAUGHTER ]

WHEN I STARTED THE GO FUND ME FOR JOHN DINGFELDER, I DID IT

WITH ONE GOAL IN MIND, HELP JOHN AND HIS FAMILY RECOVER

FINANCIALLY FROM A FIGHT THEY NEVER SHOULD HAVE FOUGHT

ALONE.

IT IS INTENDED TO HELP JOHN PAY LEGAL BILLS INCURRED WHILE

DEFENDING HIMSELF FROM AN ATTACK ON DEVELOPER'S INTENT OF

REMOVING HIM FROM OFFICE.

AS TIME WENT ON, THE GO FUND ME BECAME MORE THAN JUST MONEY.

BECAME A PLACE WHERE CITIZENS AND FRIENDS COULD LEAVE JOHN

AND LYNN WORDS OF SUPPORT.

A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COULD DEFEND JOHN'S CHARACTER AND

CELEBRATE HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS WITH COMMENTS LIKE THIS.

JOHN DINGFELDER DID NOT USE HIS OFFICE FOR PERSONAL GAIN.

HE WAS NOT FOUND GUILTY BY ANY COURT.




HE TRIED TO SERVE THE PEOPLE NOT THE PROFITEERS, SO HE WAS

HARASSED OUT OF OFFICE.

THOSE WHO FILED SUIT AGAINST HIM WERE SO SURE ALLEGATIONS

COULD BEAR PUBLIC SCRUTINY, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE INSISTED ON

A GAG ORDER.

THIS ONE FROM AN OLD FRIEND OF JOHN'S, I DONATED BECAUSE

JOHN IS ONE OF THE MOST ETHICAL PEOPLE I KNOW.

I'VE KNOWN JOHN SINCE I FIRST STEPPED ON THE CAMPUS OF THE

UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IN 1974.

I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER PERSON OR HUMAN BEING THAN JOHN.

FINALLY, THIS ONE ACCOMPANIED BY A $5 DONATION, WE ELECTED

JOHN BECAUSE FOR DECADES HE'S PROVEN TO SUPPORT FOR OUR

ENVIRONMENT AND NEEDS FOR ALL, INCLUDING POOR PEOPLE IN THE

AREA OF SULPHUR SPRINGS.

USING MONEY AND NARROW INTERESTS TO BULLY OUR CHOSEN

SPOKESMAN IS AN ATTACK ON OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND

IGNORES OUR VALUES.

WHAT HAPPENED TO JOHN DINGFELDER SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED

AND GOD WILLING WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.

THERE'S AN AGENDA ITEM YOU ADDRESSED TODAY THAT IS THE

BEGINNING OF AN ATTEMPT TO PROTECT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS

FROM THE DEEP POCKETS AND SINISTER ATTACKS THAT FORCE A GOOD

AND INCREDIBLY COMPETENT MAN OFF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THOSE ITEMS -- THESE ITEMS ARE A TRIBUTE TO JOHN IN

RECOGNITION THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO JOHN IS WRONG AND SHOULD




NEVER HAVE HAPPENED.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT JOHN, YOU LOOK AT THAT EMPTY SEAT, WHEN

YOU GET THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DEFEND YOURSELVES FROM THE VILE

AND WICKED FORCES WHO SET THEMSELVES AGAINST OUR FRAGILE

DEMOCRACY FOR PERSONAL PROFIT AND GAIN.

I WILL END BY AGAIN DRAWING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE EMPTY

CHAIR.

WE'VE LOST AN INCREDIBLE COMPETENT AND EFFECTIVE COUNCILMAN

WHEN JOHN WAS FORCED OUT OF THE SEAT.

IT WAS AN ATTACK ON THE CITY.

WE CANNOT LET STAND.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:57:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

09:57:21 >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, WE NEED A JOHN DINGFELDER, CONNIE

BURTON, MAYORAL CANDIDATE POSITION TO REPRESENT THIS CITY.

WE SEE HOW THIS CITY OPERATES TODAY WHEN SOMEBODY IS ABSENT,

BEEN ABSENT TWO OR FOUR OCCASIONS AND GETTING THE ELECTED

POSITION, WHEN SOMEBODY WHO IS PRESENT AND WHO HAS BEEN HERE

DIDN'T GET THAT POSITION.

BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, WHO ARE THE CHRISTIANS IN THE

PHOTOGRAPH STANDING BEHIND JULIUS CAESAR SUPPORTING THE

PROSECUTION OF SO-CALLED CHRISTIAN HERETICS?

WHO ARE THE PROTESTANTS IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS STANDING BEHIND

POPE PAUL THE III IN 1534 AT THE OFFICIAL START OF THE




PROTESTANT REFORMATION?

WHO ARE THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS STANDING IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS

BEHIND THE CAPITALISTS, OIL, GAS, AND TECH GIANTS THAT HAVE

BEEN DESTROYING THE ENVIRONMENT SINCE THE SO-CALLED

INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION?

WHO ARE THE INDIGENOUS INDIANS IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS STANDING

BEHIND EVERY UNITED STATES PRESIDENT FROM GEORGE WASHINGTON

TO JOSEPH BIDEN SUPPORTING THE THEFT OF NATIVE AMERICAN

LAND?

WHO ARE THE AFRICANS STANDING IN THE PHOTOGRAPH BEHIND

GENERAL ROBERT E. LEE AND PRESIDENT JEFFERSON DAVIS

SUPPORTING WHITE OWNERSHIP OF AFRICAN PEOPLE?

WHO ARE THE AFRICANS IN THE PHOTOGRAPH BEHIND LEOPOLD THE II

OR KING OF THE BELGIANS SUPPORTING LIMB AMPUTATION AND

GENOCIDES OF TENS OF MILLIONS NATIVE CONGOLESE AFRICANS?

WHO ARE THE JEWS IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS STANDING BEHIND

ADOLF HITLER AND HEINRICH HIMMLER SUPPORTING CONCENTRATION

CAMPS AND THE NAZIFICATION OF EUROPE?

WHO ARE THE JAPANESE IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS STANDING BEHIND

THEODORE ROOSEVELT SUPPORTING JAPANESE INTERNMENT CAMPS?

WHO ARE THE AFRICANS IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS STANDING BEHIND THE

UNITED STATES PRESIDENT SUPPORTING THE WAR ON DRUGS, THE WAR

ON CRIME, GENTRIFICATION, SEGREGATION, INTEGRATION,

INTERNATIONAL WHITE POWER, NATIONAL WHITE POWER, LOCAL WHITE

POWER, ALL OTHER PEOPLE'S RESOURCES, INGENUITY AND




COLLECTIVE SELF-DETERMINATION?

WHO ARE THE UKRAINIANS IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS STANDING BEHIND

VLADIMIR PUTIN SUPPORTING UKRAINIAN GENTRIFICATION OR THE

WAR IN UKRAINE?

WHO WERE THE AFRICANS IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS STANDING BEHIND

TAMPA MAYOR JANE CASTOR ON FRIDAY, APRIL 29th, 2022, AS

THE MAYOR EXPLAINED THE BENEFITS OF BICYCLE STOPS, BLACK

HATRED, CRIME-FREE APARTMENTS, AND OTHER PROGRAMS THAT

DISCRIMINATORILY AND ADVERSELY AFFECT AFRICAN PEOPLE IN THIS

CITY?

THOSE WERE THE SAME PEOPLE STANDING BEHIND JULIUS CAESAR,

ADOLF HITLER, POPE PAUL III, KING LEOPOLD, JEFFERSON DAVIS,

GENERAL ROBERT E. LEE, NIXON WAR ON CRIME, WAR ON DRUGS,

RONALD REAGAN, SAY NO TO DRUGS, DONALD TRUMP, IMMIGRATION,

MIGRATION POLICIES.

THEY ARE THE TRAITORS OF THE WORLD.

THEY ARE THE SCUM OF THEIR RACE.

THEY ARE THE KIND THAT WILL SELL THEIR PERSONAL SOULS FOR

FINANCIAL REWARD.

WE REAL AFRICANS AND REAL PEOPLE IN GENERAL HAVE TO EXPOSE

THOSE TRAITORS TO THE WORLD IN REAL-TIME AND DISCONTINUE THE

PRACTICE OF GIVING THEM A PASS TO ALLOW THEM TO CONNECT WITH

WHITE POWER TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE EXISTENCE OF AFRICAN AND

AFRICAN PEOPLE.

WE ARE 26% OF THIS POPULATION.




AND IF YOU LOOK RIGHT DOWNSTAIRS, THERE IS A PHOTOGRAPH IN

THE CITY BUILDING THAT DEPICTS NO AFRICANS ON IT.

THAT NEED TO COME DOWN.

THANK YOU.

10:00:39 >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS BARBARA VAN AIRSDALE.

I'VE BEEN HERE A FEW TIMES BEFORE.

TODAY IS MY YEAR ANNIVERSARY IN TAMPA.

I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE.

I LOVE TAMPA.

I ALSO NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN TAMPA, WHICH I'VE NOT BEEN

ABLE TO FIND.

I'M DUMBFOUNDED AT THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AND HOW

NOBODY WILL MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO SEE ME OR TALK TO ME,

EVEN THOUGH I'M ON THEIR WAIT LIST.

I DID THE APPLICATION PROCESS AT THE MARY BETHUNE BUILDING

WHEN I MOVED HERE.

THAT WAS BACK IN AUGUST.

THEY TOOK A CHECK FROM ME THAT DAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHO IT WAS, BUT BY ABOUT 4:30 IN THE AFTERNOON

THEY GAVE ME A CHECK BACK AND SAID I DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR THE

WEST RIVER DEVELOPMENT FOR WHATEVER REASON.

BUT I COULD BE WAIT-LISTED ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR

WHEREVER TO GET AN AFFORDABLE PLACE TO LIVE.

WELL, IT'S BEEN A WHOLE YEAR NOW.




I HAVEN'T FOUND ANY PLACE TO MOVE TO.

I'M LIVING IN A DESPERATE SITUATION WHERE I ALMOST GOT

KILLED TWO DAYS AGO FALLING OFF MY PORCH.

MY LIFE WAS THIS CLOSE TO IN MY HANDS AGAIN.

A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, I WENT TO SOCIAL SECURITY.

I FELL ON THE CONCRETE IN FRONT OF THE DISABILITY OFFICE

WITH A HOLE IN THE SIDEWALK.

I HAD A FRIEND TAKE ME THERE THAT DAY.

THE PARAMEDICS CAME AND PICKED ME UP.

THAT WAS GOOD FRIDAY.

I WENT BACK HOME.

I BED RESTED UNTIL I CAME TO THE MEETING THE NEXT WEEK ON

FRIDAY MORNING TO PLEAD WITH YOU, PLEASE, GET ME INTO TAMPA

HOUSING.

MARY BETHUNE BUILDING HAS OPENINGS, VACANCIES, NOBODY IS

MOVING IN.

NOBODY IS TRANSPARENT.

THE CLUBHOUSE, THEIR REC ROOMS, THE MEDICAL CENTER, ALL

THESE THINGS THAT MONEY HAS BEEN FILTERED INTO IS NOT BEING

USED.

THEY ARE LOCKED UP.

THE RESTROOMS ARE LOCKED UP.

PEOPLE ARE LIVING THERE THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE, AND I

DESERVE IT.

MY GRANDFATHER, MY PARENTS, MY ANCESTORS CAME TO AMERICA AND




-- RAISED THE AMERICAN FLAG IN NEW AMSTERDAM HARBOR WHEN

SAILED OUT OF AMERICA AND SETTLED HERE AND PROUD AMERICANS.

I WANT TO DIE IN TAMPA. I THOUGHT 36 YEARS TO MOVE FROM

FT. LAUDERDALE TO GET UP HERE AND RETIRE.

GOD BLESS US BECAUSE WE'RE IN A STATE WHERE NOBODY IS

HELPING EACH OTHER THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.

KINDNESS COMES FROM HELPING THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU.

THEN THE NEXT PERSON HELPS THAT PERSON, AND IT'S A CHAIN

REACTION.

IT DOESN'T COST A THING.

I WORKED IN NEW YORK CITY.

I WORKED IN BEVERLY HILLS, WORKED IN FT. LAUDERDALE.

I'M NOW WORKING ON TAMPA TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME TODAY.

I NEED TO GET HOME.

10:03:30 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS SHAWN WILSON.

I LIVE AT 3714 WEST ROLAND STREET.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION,

WHICH IS A LOVELY, VERY SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE INVITE YOU TO DINE THERE AND GO TO CVS AND CUT THROUGH,

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.

WE KNOW IT HAPPENS, BUT WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF OUR LITTLE

NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS RAPIDLY REDEVELOPING.

HOWEVER, TODAY I'M HERE IN MY CAPACITY AS PRESIDENT OF BLUE




SKY COMMUNITIES WITH OFFICES AT 5300 WEST CYPRESS.

BLUE SKY COMMUNITIES IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER, AND

WE'RE GETTING READY TO CELEBRATE OUR TEN-YEAR ANNIVERSARY.

WE HAVE RAPIDLY BECOME ONE OF THE MOST ACTIVE AFFORDABLE

HOUSING DEVELOPERS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

AND WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE.

SO I WANT TO THANK THE CITY FOR A SMALL LOCAL MATCH

CONTRIBUTION THAT THE CITY MADE LAST SUMMER TO A DEVELOPMENT

THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ON NEBRASKA IN COUNCILMAN VIERA'S

DISTRICT.

THAT LOCAL MATCH LEVERAGED OUR ABILITY TO APPLY FOR ABOUT

$20 MILLION OF FEDERAL FUNDING THROUGH THE 9% TAX CREDITS

PROGRAM.

AND WE ARE PROCEEDING THROUGH SOME COMPLICATED PERMITTING,

COMPLICATED FUNDING STRUCTURES, AND WE'RE DOING THAT WITH

THE CONTINUED ASSISTANCE OF THE CITY.

SO TODAY I WANT TO EXPRESS APPRECIATION TO ABBYE FEELEY AND

KAYON HENDERSON IN THEIR RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENTS.

AGAIN, WE HAVE COMPLICATED PERMITTING WITH D.O.T. AND

COMPLICATED FUNDING ISSUES THAT WE'RE RESOLVING, BUT WE'RE

PROCEEDING.

AND IF ALL GOES AS PLANNED AND IN SEVERAL MONTHS BLUE SKY

COMMUNITIES WILL BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION ON OUR FIRST

AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

AND IT'S CALLED THE ADDERLEY.




I KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE CALLED THE ADDERLEY SO WE MAY

HAVE TO CHANGE OUR NAME.

I NOTICED THE CLOCK DIDN'T STOP.

I'LL TRY TO KEEP MY TIME SHORT.

THE ADDERLEY IS 128 UNITS.

IT'S APARTMENTS.

IT'S A FIVE-STORY BUILDING ON NEBRASKA JUST NORTH OF BUSCH.

IT IS GEARED TOWARDS FAMILIES EARNING 60% AMI OR LESS.

ALTHOUGH WE HAVE SOME UNITS AT 30% AMI AND WE HAVE A FEW

UNITS AT 80% AMI.

OTHER THAN THAT, ALL OF THE UNITS WILL BE AT 60% AMI.

IT WILL BE AFFORDABLE FOR 50 YEARS, SO THAT'S 600 MONTHS.

SO THE CITY'S FUNDING IS CERTAINLY BEING STRETCHED A LONG

WAY.

AGAIN, I DO THANK THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE STAFF FOR

WORKING WITH BLUE SKY COMMUNITIES ON THE ADDERLEY, AND I

WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP YOU ALL UPDATED AS WE GET CLOSER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:06:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:06:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
LET ME THANK YOU.

I SIT ON THE BOARD FOR THE COUNTY.

BLUE SKIES IS DOING A LOT OF WORK WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THE DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE IN THE COUNTY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE

DONE, I PASS THERE A LOT OF TIMES, IT LOOKS VERY NICE.

I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE A DEVELOPER WHO UNDERSTANDS THE NEEDS




OF THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE

HOUSING.

VERY SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR ORGANIZATION BECAUSE I SEE THE WORK

YOU'RE PUTTING IN AND YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

I'M GLAD YOU'RE STARTING TO MOVE INTO THE CITY NOW BECAUSE

EVERYONE IS IN THE CITY.

SO WE NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PERCENTAGES SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND.

THERE IS A DEVELOPER OUT THERE WHO IS WILLING TO WORK WITH

THE PEOPLE.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

10:07:01 >> THANK YOU.

10:07:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:07:03 >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID.

I SALUTE YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB IN MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE

PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK AND GET UP AND WORK HARD EVERY DAY WITH

AFFORD A HOUSE.

TODAY, I DIDN'T GET TO READ THE TIMES AS WELL AS I USUALLY

DO, BUT I THINK I SAW, IF I READ IT CORRECTLY, THE AVERAGE

RENT NOW IN TAMPA BAY AREA IS ABOUT $2,000, WHICH IS

REMARKABLE.

THAT'S $24,000 A YEAR.

YOU EARN $75,000 FOR A HOUSEHOLD, THAT IS A THIRD OF YOUR




GROSS INCOME BEFORE TAXES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO WE REALLY NEED ORGANIZATIONS AND ENTITIES LIKE YOURS THAT

MAKE JUST A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT HOUSING ACCESSIBLE TO MORE AND

MORE PEOPLE.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

10:07:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. WILSON.

128 UNITS MIGHT BE A DROP IN THE BUCKET, BUT IT'S 128, 100%

OF IT IS GOING TO SOMEONE WHO NEEDS AND LOOKING FOR HOUSING.

SO YOU'RE 100% OF THE 100%.

I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION FOR THAT.

10:08:06 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I MEAN, I WOULD ONLY ADD -- I MEAN, IT'S REALLY BLUE SKY'S

GOAL TO HELP LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS IN THE

AREA OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE ALSO LIKE TO BRING A LOT OF BANG FOR THE BUCK.

WE HAVE A LOCAL ARCHITECT, BDG ARCHITECTS.

WE HAVE A LOCAL CITY OF TAMPA CERTIFIED MBE FIRM DOING THE

CIVIL ENGINEERING, HIGH POINT ENGINEERING.

WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE IT A BIG COMMUNITY EFFORT.

10:08:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:08:35 >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON, CHAIRPERSON OF THE NAACP.

I DON'T NORMALLY SAY THAT BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THIS

MORNING BECAUSE WHAT I WITNESSED THIS MORNING IS THAT

ALTHOUGH I HEAR TRUMPISM A LOT ON NATIONAL TV, I'M LOOKING

AT CASTRO-ISM HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.




I SEE WHY COUNCILMAN CARLSON COULD NEVER BE THE CHAIR

BECAUSE HE'S WILLING TO TALK THE WATER OF THE PEOPLE.

THE ISSUES BEING BROUGHT UP EVEN WITH WHAT THE CRB HAD NO

RECOMMENDATIONS AND YOU GOT A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION DEALING

WITH ISSUES THAT HAVE DIRECT IMPACT ON BROWN AND BLACK

PEOPLE.

NO RECOMMENDATIONS.

NO RECOMMENDATIONS, NO CONVERSATION ABOUT COMING INTO THE

HEART OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO TALK TO OUR PEOPLE AS

OPPOSED TO THEY CAN COME DOWN TO THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER

BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF DISTRICT 5.

SO UNACCEPTABLE.

BUT WHAT BRINGS ME HERE THIS MORNING AS WE TALK ABOUT

HOUSING CONTINUOUSLY, MADISON ON 37th WHERE THEY JUST

BUILT THIS WONDERFUL DEVELOPMENT, INSIDE THE NAACP OFFICE

PEOPLE ARE COMING IN CONSTANTLY COMPLAINING, CITIZEN,

ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT RECEIVE $1400 A MONTH TOTAL INCOME, RENT

HAS ESCALATED TO OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN MARKETED AS HELPING

LOW-INCOME PEOPLE.

LAST WEEK, WE TALKED ABOUT FECES, MOLD, RATS, IN THE MIDDLE

OF THIS CITY.

BLACK CHILDREN TRYING TO COPE, TRYING TO LEARN IN THAT

ENVIRONMENT AND THEY CAN'T DO IT.




BUT WE ARE THANKFUL THAT CONGRESSMAN MARCO RUBIO WROTE A

LETTER TO HUD -- I'LL LEAVE IT FOR YOU SO MAYBE YOU CAN

SCRATCH OFF SOMETHING FROM THIS LETTER -- AND THIS COUNCIL

WILL HAVE SOME COURAGE TO SAY TO HUD, TAKE CARE OF THE

ISSUE.

THAT IS NOT RIGHT FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE TO LIVE IN DEPLORABLE

CONDITIONS EVEN IF IT MEANS OTHER FUNDING SOURCES ARE

QUESTIONED.

LASTLY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH OUR CHILDREN?

WE ARE TIRED OF THEM PICKING UP PAPER.

WE WANT THEM TO HAVE REAL SUMMER OPPORTUNITY.

BUT BEFORE THEY CAN EVEN HAVE A SUMMER JOB, I'M LOOKING AT

WHERE COULD MY GRANDDAUGHTER GO AND HAVE SOME LIKE GYMNASTIC

ACTIVITY?

I KNOW YOU COUNCILMAN GUDES TALKING ABOUT BUILDING OVER IN

THE FAIR OAKS.

THERE IS ZERO NOTHING FOR OUR CHILDREN TO DO OVER THE

SUMMER.

NOTHING.

WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE NORTH TAMPA,

GYMNASTICS, HIP-HOP DANCING, ANYTHING THEY WANT TO DO IS

THERE FOR THEM.

THE CRISIS IS NOW FOR THIS COUNCIL TO DEAL WITH THE

DISPARITIES THAT WE HAVE IN THIS CITY AND FIND A WAY TO HAVE

REAL INCLUSION.




AND LASTLY, IF I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE

FEDS, I'M GOING TO LEARN.

THANK YOU.

10:11:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MS. BURTON.

COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:12:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MS. BURTON, I'M VERY FAMILIAR.

I WAS OVER AT THE MADISON TWO MONTHS AGO.

I WAS INVITED BY THE RESIDENTS.

I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT, YOU SAID THE RENT INCREASED OVER A

THOUSAND DOLLARS NOW?

10:12:13 >> I'LL LEAVE A COPY, IF I CAN.

10:12:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CAN YOU GET THAT FOR ME, MS. MICHEL?

I'LL MAKE SURE I MAKE A CALL TO MR. McCRAY, BECAUSE THAT

IS A VERY SENIOR PLACE.

AND THAT SURPRISING THAT IS HAPPENING.

I WILL LOOK INTO THAT.

10:12:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE LETTER.

10:12:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED?

LET THE RECORD REFLECT THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:12:45 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

CONGRATULATIONS.

MY NAME IS EDDIE ADAMS, JUNIOR.




AND I AM HERE TO RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT ALL OF YOU READ A

BOOK BY WAYNE PERRYMAN CALLED "UNFOUNDED LOYALTY" WHICH

TALKS ABOUT BLACK FOLKS' LOYALTY TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS

A DEMOCRAT.

THE HOUSE IS DEMOCRATIC.

THE SENATE IS DEMOCRATIC.

AND FOR SOME REASON THE WHITE FOLKS' VOTING RIGHTS EXPIRE.

THE WOMEN GOT THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

IT DIDN'T HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE.

BUT BLACK FOLKS HAD EXPIRATION DATE AND IT KEEP EXPIRING.

ALL THEY GOT TO DO IS HAVE A MEETING ONE DAY AND SAY WE'LL

MAKE THIS THE LAW OF THE LAND AND WE'VE GOT IT FOREVER.

WHAT I'M TALKING TO YOU ABOUT GETS TO THE POINT THAT ALL OF

YOU GUYS ARE DEMOCRATS.

24% OF YOUR CONSTITUENCY HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IS BLACK.

BLACK FOLKS PAY TAXES.

WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.

YOU TAKE TAXES OUT OF OUR MONEY.

BUT -- AND I'LL ASK THE COUNCIL, THE CHAIRMAN, IF YOU COULD

AT SOME POINT, I'M AVAILABLE, FIND OUT HOW MUCH OF THE

CITY'S ANNUAL BUDGET IS RETURNED TO THE COMMUNITY BY THE

CITY OF TAMPA DOING BUSINESS WITH BLACK BUSINESSES BECAUSE I

DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER ANYMORE.

IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE I GAVE




YOU GUYS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHEN I CAME HOW A

MULTIBILLION DOLLAR LOCAL BUSINESS DOES MONEY, RETURNS MONEY

TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT.

IF YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW, THEN YOU DON'T SEE IT AS A PROBLEM.

IF YOU DON'T SEE IT AS A PROBLEM, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO

ANYTHING TO RECTIFY OR CORRECT IT.

FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU SAY TO US, IT'S 2% OR LESS THAN 2% AND

YOU SEE FOR YOURSELF HOW SHAMEFUL THAT IS FOR THE CITY OF

TAMPA TO ONLY -- UNLESS THEY GOT ANOTHER WAY FOR YOU GUYS TO

RETURN MONEY TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MINORITIES, BECAUSE THERE ARE A

LOT OF WAYS THAT MINORITY THING HAPPEN AND WE STILL DON'T

GET ANY MONEY BACK FROM THE CITY OR OTHER INSTITUTIONS

BECAUSE WHITE WOMEN IS CONSIDERED TO BE A MINORITY.

SO YOU CAN GIVE ALL THE BUSINESS TO WHITE WOMEN AND THEN

SAY, WELL, WE DID BUSINESS WITH MINORITY.

WELL, THAT'S NOT MY CONCERN.

MY CONCERN IS HOW YOU RETURN MONEY TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY

BECAUSE WITH TWO -- MAYBE NOT 2 BILLION BUT CLOSE TO $2

BILLION BUDGET, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY

IS RETURNED TO A COMMUNITY THAT'S PAYING 24% OF THE TAXES TO

THE CITY OF TAMPA.

I LEARNED FROM THE MEETING LAST WEEK, IF I POINT THAT TO THE

CHAIRMAN OR POINT IT TO A MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL, MAYBE I

MAY GET A REPLY BACK.




THANK YOU.

10:15:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. ADAMS.

NEXT, PLEASE.

10:16:14 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN.

MY NAME IS -- WELL, CITY OF TAMPA COUNCILMEN.

MY NAME IS IRMA CELESTINE.

I LIVE AT 812 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE FOR MORE THAN, I WOULD

SAY, 18 YEARS I'VE BEEN HAVING PROBLEM WITH THE FOUNDATION

OF MY HOME.

AND TO BE HONEST, I COULD HAVE SELL IT AND KEEP GOING, BUT I

DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FAIR TO THE NEXT PERSON

WHETHER THEY HAVE MONEY OR NOT, WOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

BUT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE FOR MANY YEARS

NOW, AND I'VE BEEN GETTING THE RUNAROUND.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. COUNCILMAN GUDES WHO REFERRED

ME TO SOMEONE, WHICH I SPOKE BRIEFLY, WHICH I'M GOING TO GET

TOGETHER WITH HER IN ORDER TO RESOLVE MY PROBLEM.

WE LIVE IN A WORLD THAT I SEE THERE IS NO SO-CALLED

CIVILIZATION.

WE TREAT EACH OTHER -- WE ALL ARE HUMAN AND WE ARE JUST

PASSING THROUGH.

THERE IS A TIME THAT WE COME INTO THIS EARTH AND THERE WILL

BE A TIME THAT WE MUST MOVE ON.

WHY CAN'T WE SETTLE DOWN, I WOULD SAY, BECAUSE AT ANY TIME

OR ANY POINT, SOMEONE, BECAUSE OF THEIR EGO CAN EXTERMINATE




EACH OTHER OR DO HARM TO EACH OTHER.

IF WE WOULD MORE OR LESS REALIZE OUR SURROUNDING AND DO

BETTER.

BECAUSE AT THE POINT NOW, AT MY AGE I'M LOOKING AT, IT'S

REALLY SAD.

I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE, BUT EVENTUALLY YOU'RE

NOT GOING TO TAKE IT WITH YOU, AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE

WE ALL GOING.

WE HEARD.

JUST BE GOOD TO LOOK -- YOU SEE EARTH.

LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE.

YEAH.

TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING.

PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING.

WHATEVER IS THE COLOR.

WHEN I WAS BORN, I HEARD THERE ARE ONLY FOUR RACES.

NOW THERE ARE SO MANY RACES.

WE CAN'T EVEN CLASSIFY OURSELVES AS BEING WHAT.

WE ALL HAVE IN OUR DNA, LITTLE THINGS IN THERE.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU, MR. GUDES.

I'M GOING TO PROCEED AND I DO EXPECT GOOD RESULTS.

THANK YOU.

10:19:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

10:19:39 >> GOOD MORNING.

MAY GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.




I'LL READ SOME SCRIPTURE FROM YOU BOOK OF ROMAN, 13th

CHAPTER, BOOK OF ROMANS.

[AUDIO DROP]

[ENCODER DROP]

I GOT SOMETHING HERE.

FROM MY FLYER.

THE PEOPLE OF COLOR CANNOT WIN THE RESPECT OF THE OPPRESSOR

OR THE -- INCREASE THE OPPRESSOR ARROGANCE AND CONTEMPT.

INTERPRETED AS PROOF OF PEOPLE OF COLOR AS INFERIOR.

THE PEOPLE OF COLOR CANNOT WIN THE RESPECT OF THE WHITE

PEOPLE OF THE SOUTH, PEOPLE OF THE WORLD.

IF HE IS WILLING TO SELL THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN FOR

PERSONAL AND IMMEDIATE COMFORT AND GAIN.

CHANGES IN THE STATUS QUO DEPENDS ON THE CONTINUED ACTION --

OF A NATION AND STATUS IN WHICH EVEN THE MOST RACIST ELEMENT

FAILS TO ADMIT THAT CHANGE IS NECESSARY.

DERELICT ACTION IS NOT SUBJECT TO WORK IN THE COURT AND HALL

OF GOVERNMENT.

BRING ABOUT CHANGES FOR OUR NEW AND BROAD LAW BY CITY

COUNCIL.

BEFORE THE COURT OF THE LAND.

DO NOT ELIMINATE THE NECESSITY FOR BRINGING ABOUT THE

MASSIVE DESTRUCTION OF JUSTICE IN THE FRONT OF THE CITY

HALL.

CATHOLIC CHURCH, THERE IS NO ONE TEACHER AND THE TEACHER OF




JESUS CHRIST.

NO ONE IS GREATER, GREATER THAN HIS MASTER.

THE PREACHER AND TEACHER ARE NOTHING BUT SERVANTS OF THE

LORD.

EPISCOPAL PAUL, GOD THEREFORE.

FIRST OF ALL, SUBROGATION, PRAYER, ALL MEN CAME AND THAT

THERE ARE AUTHORITY THAT WE MAY LEAD QUIET AND PEACEFUL LIFE

IN GODNESS AND HONESTY.

I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO READ IT ALL.

I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT WE ARE BELIEVERS IN GOD.

WE GOT POWER TO TRY TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

BUT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT'S RIGHT.

THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON.

WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD IS NOTHING RIGHT ABOUT COMING

FROM GOD.

ONE THING ABOUT US, WE MUST SUBMIT OURSELVES TO ALMIGHTY

POWER AND AUTHORITY OF GOD ALMIGHTY.

I THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL, AND I WANT TO ASK THE CITY

COUNCIL, THE LAWYER OF CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE GET ME AN

INVITATION AND MEET WITH THE MAYOR.

MEET WITH THE MAYOR.

I'LL BE GLAD TO MEET WITH HER ONE ON ONE.

10:23:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:23:17 >> THANK YOU.

GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU ALL.




10:23:27 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:23:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GOOD MORNING.

10:23:28 >> MY NAME IS BY SHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.

I'M ONE OF THE HOSTS OF WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING ALONG WITH

KING CULVER FROM KING CULVER ENTERPRISES MR. JAY JOHNSON.

OUR RADIO PROGRAM COMES ON EVERY SATURDAY MORNING FROM

9 A.M. TO 10.

IT'S A PUBLIC -- LISTEN TO PUBLIC FORUM.

I DIDN'T COME TO SPEAK THIS MORNING, BUT WHEN I HEARD ABOUT

THE LACK OF INPUT ABOUT JOBS IN THE CITY, I JUST WANTED TO

SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MS. SHERISHA HILLS, THE PARKS DIRECTOR.

SHE WAS MY GUEST JUST THIS PAST SATURDAY.

SHE'S BEEN A GUEST TWICE.

SHE'S BEEN GETTING OUT THE WORD ABOUT THE JOB.

SHE'S BEEN TELLING NOT ONLY ABOUT THE JOBS BUT THE INCOME

THAT THERE ARE PART-TIME, THERE ARE PERMANENT JOBS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $15 AN HOUR JOBS.

SO THE PUBLIC IS BEING AWARE ON THAT FRONT THAT THERE ARE

JOBS BEING MADE AVAILABLE FOR THE YOUTH FOR THE SUMMER.

I AM GOING TO CALL MR. BENNETT AND LET HIM KNOW THAT WHAT'S

REALLY HAPPENING, WILL ACTUALLY BE GLAD TO SERVE AS A VENUE

TO CONTINUE TO GET THE WORD OUT CONCERNING JOBS, WHETHER

THEY BE SUMMER OR PERMANENT JOBS.

I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD RISE UP BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT

ARE MAKING AN EFFORT TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY AS TO WHAT'S




GOING ON.

I WANT TO THANK MS. HILLS ONCE AGAIN OVER AT PARKS AND

RECREATION AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE INFORMED THE

COMMUNITY ABOUT, ABOUT BEING LIFEGUARDS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AFRICANS, HARDLY SWIM BUT IN MY HOME,

THERE WAS EIGHT OF US, WE WERE MADE TO LEARN HOW TO SWIM,

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN -- THEY CAN TAKE THESE

CERTIFICATES AND THEY ACTUALLY CAN GO AND USE THEM OTHER

PLACES.

WE HOPE THEY STAY WITH THE CITY WHEN THEY GET THESE

CERTIFICATES, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATIVE INFORMATION

THAT SHE HAD TO GIVE TO THIS COMMUNITY, AND SHE CAME -- THE

PROGRAM IS A PREDOMINANT AFRICAN AMERICAN PROGRAM SO SHE

CAME TO ENLIGHTEN US, TO ENCOURAGE US, TO TAKE THESE JOBS,

TO BECOME INVOLVED IN THESE JOBS.

AND THESE JOBS, SOME EVEN HAVE APPRENTICESHIP WHERE YOU CAN

GO FORWARD.

THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT I LEARNED AND MY AUDIENCE

LEARNED FROM HER, AND SHE WILL BE COMING BACK AGAIN.

AND WE EXTEND THAT INFORMATION TO ALL OF YOU COUNCIL

MEMBERS.

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO CONVEY TO THE

COMMUNITY, WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING THAT COMES ON EVERY

SATURDAY MORNING AT 9 A.M., AND I THANK THOSE OF YOU WHO

HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CITRO,




MANISCALCO, COUNCILMAN VIERA, I'M STILL WAITING ON MR.

MIRANDA, BUT THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IT,

YOU ALWAYS BROUGHT SOME SUBSTANCE TO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE

SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.

10:26:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

AND I WILL SECOND YOUR MOTION ON MS. SHERISHA HILLS BEING AN

AZING, AN AMAZING WOMAN AS DEPARTMENT HEAD OF PARKS AND

RECREATION.

10:26:34 >> THANK YOU.

10:26:41 >> JOE ROBINSON.

WHEN I COME DOWN LIKE THIS, THERE IS A LOT GOING ON.

GETTING BACK IN THE INVESTIGATIVE MODE.

FEDS DOWN HERE.

FIRST OF ALL, CINCO DE MAYO!

CONGRATULATIONS, JOE CITRO FOR CHAIR.

CONGRATULATIONS, GUIDO.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR BACKUP QUARTERBACK, BUT YOU'VE GOT

TOMORROW'S QUALITIES.

YOU ARE A GOOD BACKUP QUARTERBACK.

LET'S NOT WORRY ABOUT THAT.

LET'S GET DOWN TO THE RIGMAROLE.

I CAN STAY HERE FOR ANOTHER 15 MINUTES AND TALK ON ITEMS 39,

40, 41, AND 47 BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.

BUT I AM GOING TO SPARE YOU ON THAT BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE

MAKING ME MISS MY ELECTRICIAN AT MY HOUSE RIGHT NOW.




I WANT TO SAY THIS, THOSE ARE WEST TAMPA ISSUES.

ONE OF THEM IS EASEMENT VACATION.

LET'S DO IT.

REZONING.

SOL FLEISCHMAN -- I SEE HIM BACK THERE.

IF HE'S DOING SOMETHING, IT'S ALL GOOD.

-- MAKE IT HAPPEN, BUILDING, LOCAL LANDMARK, I DON'T HAVE

ANY OBJECTION.

10:27:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M SORRY.

10:27:39 >> HAVE I BEEN SWORN IN?

10:27:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THINGS SET FOR PUBLIC

HEARINGS?

10:27:43 >> I'M ROLLING IT ALL IN BECAUSE I MAY NOT BE HERE.

IF YOU WANT ME TO STAY HERE, FIVE MINUTES ON THIS -- MY TIME

NOW.

LISTEN, I'M JUST MAKING A STATEMENT.

NOT SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO THEM.

I'M FOR IT BECAUSE IT IS WEST TAMPA.

LET'S MOVE ON.

NO, I'M NOT SPEAKING ABOUT THEM.

I JUST MENTIONED THEM.

10:28:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST REMEMBER, PLEASE, QUASI-JUDICIAL

PROCEEDINGS.

10:28:10 >> I UNDERSTAND.

I UNDERSTAND THE RULES AND REGULATIONS.




NOW, BACK TO THE CRB BOARD, SAID IT WAS 241 COMPLAINTS.

HOW MANY VALIDATED?

I DIDN'T SEE THAT NUMBER.

241 COMPLAINTS, BUT THEY WERE NOT VALIDATED.

WHAT THAT MEAN?

ARE THEY VALID OR NOT?

COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE IN WEST TAMPA, MS. LAWYER.

NOW, BOTTOM LINE, I WAS UP HERE PUSHING HANNA AVENUE, BUT

I'M TESTING THEM.

WE TEST STUFF.

ALREADY TESTING THE CITY WITH HOUSING.

THE FBI WILL BE HERE REAL SOON.

I'M TRYING TO HOLD THEM BACK, BUT KEEP RUNNING YOUR MOUTH

AND KEEP DOING NONSENSE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE SOME SERIOUS

INVESTIGATION, NOT THIS HERE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

THAT'S A SLAP ON THE WRIST.

I'M TALKING ABOUT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

LISTEN, HANNA AVENUE, HERE'S THE PROBLEM.

WE SENT IN A REQUEST TO PROVIDE SERVICES.

MY FIRM.

I DO THIS FOR A LIVING.

NO RESPONSE.

NOW, WE'RE CERTIFIED BLACK-OWNED BUSINESS, PROVIDING

PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.




AND THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE DIGNITY TO RESPOND TO THE

E-MAIL AND TOLD ME ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

NOW, I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY THAT GAME.

I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY THAT GAME ON HANNA.

I WAITED UNTIL THE END.

IF YOU ALL WANT TO PLAY HARD BALL, WE'LL PLAY HARD BALL.

FIND OUT WHY WHITE WOMEN ARE GETTING MOST OF THE CONTRACTS

IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THEY ARE OVERUTILIZED.

WE'LL FIND OUT WHY BLACK CONTRACTORS ARE NOT GETTING ANY

OPPORTUNITIES AND THEY ARE UNDER DISPARATE IMPACT.

ASK FOR A DISPARITY STUDY TO BE DONE AND WE'RE GOING TO

CLEAN UP A LOT OF THIS PUBLIC CORRUPTION.

I'LL GO BACK AND WALK HOME BECAUSE I WALKED DOWN.

I WASN'T EVEN GOING TO SPEAK.

I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY THOSE GAMES.

YOU BETTER TELL HANNA AND THE ADMINISTRATION TO GET ON THE

BALL AND RESPOND TO BLACK FOLKS WHEN WE ASK THEM FOR

OPPORTUNITIES ON A PROJECT THAT IS A HUNDRED MILLION

DOLLARS.

I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.

10:30:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS HERE IN

OUR CHAMBERS?

IF NOT, WE WILL GO INTO THOSE THAT ARE ON THE INTERNET.

WE HAVE MR. RANDOLPH.

ARE YOU WITH US, MR. RANDOLPH?




10:30:46 >> YES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME?

10:30:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, SIR.

10:30:49 >> OKAY.

GOOD.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.

I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW APPOINTED CHAIRPERSONS.

I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT AN UPDATE ON THE HOME AND

E-COMMERCE BUSINESS INITIATIVE.

IT IS A NATIONAL INITIATIVE NOW FOR PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE

COUNTRY.

IT'S LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE DOING IN WEST TAMPA.

THIS IS AN UPDATE.

WE COMMITTED TO 120 NEW BUSINESSES STARTED WITHIN FIVE

YEARS.

WE PLAN TO START WORKING WITH BUSINESSES IN WEST TAMPA TO

GET STARTED.

HERE IS THE BREAKDOWN.

FOR THE FIRST YEAR, BRINGING IN 15 BUSINESSES.

YEAR TWO, IT WILL BE 25.

YEAR 3 IS 35.

YEAR 4 IS 40, AND YEAR 5 IS 5.

THAT'S A TOTAL OF 100 NEW BUSINESSES STARTED IN WEST TAMPA.

SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE STRUGGLING IN




PAYING THE RENT, YOU CAN DO A SIDE HUSTLE BY CREATING YOUR

OWN HOME-BASED BUSINESS TO ADD IN MONEY SO YOU CAN PAY THOSE

BILLS.

WE ALSO MADE A COMMITMENT OF $80 MILLION.

WHEN WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE'RE STRATEGIC.

WE ALREADY KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.

FOR THE FIRST 800,000 COMING FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT

FUNDS, WHICH IS $800,000.

THIS MONEY IS GOING TO BE USED TO BUY A BUILDING TO DO AN

E-COMMERCE CENTER AS WELL AS TO PROVIDE MONEY FOR MICROLOANS

FOR BUSINESSES.

THE NEXT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S COMING FROM HEALTH AND HUMAN

SERVICE AND HUD, THAT'S GOING TO BE $15 MILLION.

THEN THE NEXT POT OF MONEY IS COMING FROM THE CRA.

WE'RE MEETING TODAY OR THIS WEEK WITH THE OFFICE OF COURTESY

AND CONTROL ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

AS YOU KNOW, THEY CONTROL THE CRA.

THEY TALK ABOUT OUR STRATEGY AND BRING IN THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT WITH FEDERAL MONEY.

AND THEN FINALLY, THE LAST REMAINING MONEY IS COMING FROM --

RIGHT NOW THAT'S OVER 110 FOUNDATIONS THAT GIVE MONEY ALL

OVER THE COUNTRY.

WE PLAN TO TRAIN TEN RESIDENTS IN WEST TAMPA ON HOW TO WRITE

A GRANT.

NEXT, THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED




BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

PLEASE, USE IT TO REDUCE GENTRIFICATION AND INCREASE

AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I KNOW I'M PRONOUNCING THE NAME WRONG, EXCUSE ME FOR

PRONOUNCING THE NAME WRONG, SHE SHOW WHAT CAN BE DONE.

SHE SHOW THE HOUSING CRISIS IN WEST TAMPA.

SHE PARTNERED WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC, PARTNERED WITH

DEVELOPERS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE GENTRIFICATION AFFORDABLE

HOUSING IS SOMETHING THAT'S AFFORDABLE TO EVERYBODY.

CAME ONE EMPLOYMENT CENTER IN WHICH DEVELOPERS AGREED TO

BUILD AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER IN ORDER TO HELP PEOPLE TO GET

JOBS TO STAY IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE OTHER PARTNER THERE WITH $650,000 GOING TOWARDS

AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO PEOPLE COULD AFFORD TO PAY CLOSING

COSTS.

THIS IS THE FORMULA YOU SHOULD USE WITH THE COMMUNITY

BENEFIT AGREEMENT.

IT SHOULD BE USED TO DEAL WITH GENTRIFICATION AND, B, DEAL

WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I KNOW COSTS ARE PRETTY AND OTHER THINGS ARE PRETTY, WE'RE

IN A HOUSING CRISIS NOW.

THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IS LOOKING AT NEW MONEY BY

PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW BOARD, THE NEW MEMBERS.




10:34:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.

IS MS. BENNETT THERE?

10:34:35 >>THE CLERK:
CARROLL ANN BENNETT, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE,

PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

10:34:39 >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.

I AM A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.

THE NEW OPINION BY THE STATE ETHICS COMMITTEE MAKES IT

IMPOSSIBLE FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO WORK IN ANYTHING RELATED

TO REAL ESTATE OR CONSTRUCTION OR LAND USE.

THOSE RESTRICTIONS ELIMINATE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM RUNNING

FOR CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO WORK ONLY AS

A COUNCIL MEMBER, BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER'S JOB IS

FULL-TIME WORK FOR PART-TIME PAY.

THAT MUST CHANGE.

IT IS TIME TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE JOB OF CITY COUNCIL IS NOT

THE SAME AS IT WAS 30 YEARS AGO.

THE POPULATION AND THE WORKLOAD IS NOT THE SAME AS IT WAS 30

YEARS AGO.

THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY WANT AN INDEPENDENT CITY COUNCIL

THAT IS PART OF A SYSTEM OF CHECKS AND BALANCES.

I WOULD NEVER WANT YOUR JOB, EVEN IF IT WERE FULL-TIME AND

PAID TWICE AS MUCH.

YOU'D HAVE TO PAY OFF THE STUDENT LOANS OF MY SON AND NIECES

TO GET ME TO TAKE THAT JOB.




BELIEVE ME, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY.

THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY WANT COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO CAN GIVE

US YOUR FULL ATTENTION AND HAVE THE TIME AND FREEDOM TO

TREAT US AND THE CITY LIKE THE FULL-TIME JOB IT IS.

IF SOMEONE WITH DEEP POCKETS AND FINANCIAL MOTIVES THREATENS

OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS BECAUSE THEY DID THEIR JOB, BECAUSE

THEY LISTENED TO THE CITIZENS, BECAUSE THEY REPRESENTED US,

IF PRO CITIZEN, PRO NEIGHBORHOOD, PRO SAFETY COUNCIL MEMBERS

ARE ATTACKED FOR DOING THE JOB THEY WERE ELECTED TO DO, THE

CITIZENS WANT THE CITY TO DEFEND THAT PERSON BECAUSE IN

REALITY, THE CITY IS DEFENDING US AND THE CITIZEN'S RIGHT TO

A VOICE AND THE CITIZEN'S RIGHT TO A VOTE AND THE CITIZEN'S

RIGHT TO A SEAT AT THE TABLE.

IF THE CITY DOESN'T DEFEND AND PROTECT CITY COUNCIL, WHO

WILL RUN FOR THESE POSITIONS?

WE ALL KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

IT WILL BE YES-MEN AND YES-WOMEN WHO WILL DO AS THEY ARE

TOLD BY THE RICH AND THE POWERFUL.

IT WILL BE THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T AFRAID OF BEING SUED

BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MOUTHPIECES OF THE PEOPLE DOING THE

SUING.

INDEPENDENT, COURAGEOUS MEN AND WOMEN WHO CARE ABOUT WHAT'S

BEST FOR TAMPA CITIZENS WILL NOT RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL

BECAUSE THEY CAN'T RISK FINANCIAL RUIN FROM LAWSUITS.

WE WANT OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO FEEL SAFE TO VOTE THE WAY




THEIR CONSCIENCE AND THEIR CONSTITUENTS WANT THEM TO VOTE

WITHOUT FEAR OF FINANCIALLY DEVASTATING LAWSUITS.

SO WHEN YOU GET TO ITEMS NUMBER 64 AND 65, PLEASE TAKE

ACTION TO PROTECT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

TAKE ACTION TO PROTECT THE VOICES OF THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.

THANK YOU.

10:37:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MS. BENNETT.

MS. POYNOR, ARE YOU WITH US?

10:37:25 >>THE CLERK:
STEPHANIE POYNOR, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE,

PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:37:30 >> YES, GOOD MORNING.

NUMBER 64 AND 65, YOU KNOW, DURING QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS,

I HAVE HEARD REPEATEDLY, MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES, THAT PEOPLE

WHO ARE SITTING IN THE SEATS ON THE DAIS BE CONCERNED ABOUT

GETTING SUED FOR MAKING THE WRONG DECISIONS.

IT VERY MUCH DISCONCERTS ME THAT THEY NOT ONLY ARE BEING

SUED FOR THOSE DECISIONS, BUT THE DECISIONS THAT THEY MAKE

IN ANY PROSPECT THAT THEY DO OFF CITY COUNCIL.

NUMBER 64 AND 65 ABSOLUTELY NEED TO BE PASSED THIS MORNING.

YOU GUYS NEED THE STAFF TO DO THE JOBS.

WE HAD A BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING YESTERDAY.

WE HAVE NO SECRETARY TO TAKE THE MINUTES FOR THE BUDGET

COMMITTEE MEETING.

IT SHOULD NOT BE PUT ON THE 8 STAFF MEMBERS THAT YOU




CURRENTLY HAVE.

YOU GUYS NEED THE ADDITIONAL STAFF.

ONCE AGAIN, I SHOWED YOU GUYS THE NUMBERS LAST WEEK, OUR

POPULATION IS UP BY 25 TO 30%.

THE CITY BUDGET IS UP BY 275 PERCENT, BUT YET CITY COUNCIL

IS STILL RUNNING WITH THEIR 2000 TOYOTA CAMRY.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

I WAS FLABBERGASTED THAT THE CRB HAD NO KNOWLEDGE THAT THE

DOJ IS INVESTIGATING IN OUR CITY.

THAT FLOORS ME.

WHAT ABOUT TRANSPARENCY?

TRANSPARENCY, TRANSPARENCY, TRANSPARENCY, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE

WE'RE ONLY TRANSPARENT ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.

I'M VERY DISGUSTED AT THE FACT THAT WE SAT IN FRONT OF THE

ETHICS COMMITTEE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND THEY SAID THEY

HADN'T HAD AN ETHICS COMPLAINT IN FOUR YEARS, YET THEY SPENT

$100,000 INVESTIGATING COUNCILMAN GUDES.

YET, THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SPENDING MORE OF OUR CIVIL

DOLLARS, OUR TAX DOLLARS, NOT THEIR MONEY OUT OF THEIR OWN

POCKET, BUT THEY ARE INVESTIGATING COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

SO HOW MANY TIMES DO THESE GUYS GET TO SPEND SIX FIGURES

THAT WE COULD BE FURNISHING FOR AFFORDABLE?

WE COULD BE BUILDING SIDEWALKS, BUT YET WE'RE PLAYING GAMES

WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES.

PLEASE STAND UP FOR YOURSELVES.




PLEASE GIVE YOURSELVES A BIGGER STAFF WHEN YOU DO THIS

CHARTER REVIEW.

I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK FOR OUR CITY.

BUT IT'S TIME TO ASK FOR WHAT OUR CITIZENS DESERVE, WHICH IS

A STAND-ALONE CITY COUNCIL THAT CAN DO ITS JOB.

THANK YOU.

10:40:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

10:40:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:40:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:40:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MS. POYNOR MADE A POINT.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT UNDER NEW BUSINESS THE BUDGET

COMMITTEE, THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED.

I'M GETTING SEVERAL COMPLAINTS.

YOU HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE APPOINTED PEOPLE AT TIMES

ARE NOT SHOWING AT THE MEETINGS.

I KNOW THERE ARE SOME ISSUES GOING ON.

SUPPOSED TO BE UNDER THE SUNSHINE, MY UNDERSTANDING.

IT'S NOT BEEN THAT WAY SINCE ITS INCEPTION.

WITH THE NEW CHAIRMAN, GET NEW CHAIRMAN AND NOW GET SOME

GUIDELINES IN PLACE SO THE BOARD CAN OPERATE THE WAY IT'S

SUPPOSED TO BE OPERATING FOR THIS BUSINESS.

DEALING WITH THAT UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

10:41:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. STROHMEYER.

MS. STROHMEYER, ARE YOU WITH US?

10:41:07 >>THE CLERK:
IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, COULD YOU PLEASE UNMUTE




YOURSELF?

10:41:10 >> THANK YOU.

HELLO, YOU ALL.

HOW ARE YOU?

10:41:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GOOD MORNING.

10:41:14 >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF TAMPA SINCE 1970.

I GREW UP IN TOWN N' COUNTRY WITH A VERY LARGE FAMILY AND WE

WERE PRETTY DIRT POOR, BUT WE WERE TAUGHT TO WORK HARD.

WE WERE TAUGHT ETHICS.

WE WERE TAUGHT GOOD MORAL TEACHINGS.

SO EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I CAN

TELL YOU THAT WHEN I WAS 15 YEARS OLD, I LIVED ON MY OWN.

I MOVED OUT OF MY PARENTS' HOUSE AND I GOT MY FIRST

APARTMENT.

MY FIRST RENT CHECK, MY FIRST PAYCHECK WENT TO RENT.

MY SECOND PAYCHECK WENT TO ELECTRICITY AND PHONE.

I DID NOT GO OUT BUT ONCE A WEEK -- OR ONCE EVERY PAYCHECK,

THAT WAS MY GIFT TO MYSELF TO GO OUT TO DINNER.

I DIDN'T ASK ANYBODY TO GIVE ME ANYTHING.

I DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING FROM ANY GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.

I JUST LIVED WITHIN MY MEANS.

I MADE $3.35 AN HOUR I BELIEVE AT THE TIME.

I ALSO WORKED FULL-TIME AND PAID FOR MY OWN COLLEGE AND I




ALSO WORKED FULL-TIME TO GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL FROM LETO IN

1986.

I WORK HARD, AND I BELIEVE WORK ETHIC IS KEY TO TEACHING OUR

YOUNG PEOPLE WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO BE.

WE SPENT THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT, MY ENTIRE FAMILY, ALL

EIGHT OF US, WE SPENT OUR SUMMERS AT THE PARKS AND RECS.

WE PLAYED BOX HOCKEY.

WE PLAYED SOCCER.

WE PLAYED ON THE MONKEY BARS, PLAYED CHECKERS, AND WE

LEARNED HOW TO PLAY WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND HOW TO BE HONEST

AND LOSE GRACEFULLY.

WE DIDN'T ACCUSE SOMEBODY BECAUSE WE LOST.

JUST SAYING, PARKS AND REC IS IMPORTANT AND I THINK THAT

NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT BACK, ESPECIALLY NATURE'S CLASSROOM,

WHICH WAS ALWAYS A TREAT IN THE PARKS SYSTEM.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL DO THAT.

THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA, I TOO AM FLABBERGASTED ABOUT THIS

FBI INVESTIGATION INTO OUR CITY.

I AM JUST SHOCKED AND THAT IS NOT TRANSPARENT THAT YOU ALL

KNEW ABOUT THAT -- NOT YOU ALL, BUT THE ADMINISTRATION KNEW

ABOUT THAT AND WE THE PEOPLE DID NOT.

AND THERE SHOULD BE MORE OF THOSE INVESTIGATIONS.

LET'S SEE, THE JOBS, I SUGGEST YOUNG PEOPLE CAN BE -- THEY

-- IF THEY DON'T WANT COLLEGE, COLLEGE PAID FOR MY OWN, BUT

IT'S NOT FOR EVERYBODY.




I WAS PRETTY BORED.

BUT WE COULD SHIP YOUNG KIDS INTO OFFICE JOBS, FILING.

THAT IS A GREAT START.

AT ANY LAW FIRM OR ANY INSURANCE COMPANY, YOU MAKE VERY GOOD

MONEY.

YOU GET BENEFITS AND YOU GET PAID AND THEN YOU CAN GO TO

COLLEGE IF YOU WANT TO WHILE YOU MAKE A PAYCHECK.

THAT'S WHAT I DID AND I HAVE MY OWN BUSINESS.

I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT ANYTHING FROM THE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE

THE GOVERNMENT GIVETH AND THE GOVERNMENT TAKETH AWAY.

YOU SHALL NOT EAT BUT BY THE SWEAT OF YOUR BROW.

THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS AND THAT'S WHAT WE LIVE BY IN MY

FAMILY.

DINGFELDER THING IS STILL A SHAM.

I DO BELIEVE THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO BY THE SAME FBI

THAT'S LOOKING INTO THE OTHER CORRUPTION IN OUR CITY.

10:44:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:44:38 >> THANKS.

BYE.

10:44:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. SULING, I'M SORRY, YOU HANDED ME A NOTE.

10:44:47 >>THE CLERK:
[MICROPHONE NOT ON]

10:44:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DID I HEAR MR. MECHANIK?

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON ITEM 32?

10:45:09 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM HERE.

I'M JUST HEAR TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.




10:45:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR, MR.

MECHANIK.

WILL YOU BE AVAILABLE IF ANY QUESTIONS DO ARISE?

10:45:37 >> YES, SIR.

I AM HERE.

THANK YOU.

10:45:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DO YOU KNOW IF THAT INCLUDES MR. GARCIA AND

MR. SCHULLER?

THAT IS HERE.

10:45:47 >> YES, THEY ARE BOTH HERE.

YES.

THEY ARE VIRTUALLY HERE.

10:45:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DO YOU KNOW IF MR. GARCIA OR MR. SCHULLER

WANTS TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS?

10:46:05 >> I DON'T BELIEVE, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:46:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO TO THEM JUST TO MAKE SURE.

MR. GARCIA, ARE YOU THERE?

10:46:19 >>THE CLERK:
MR. GARCIA, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

10:46:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. SCHULLER, ARE YOU THERE?

10:46:33 >> YES, I'M HERE.

10:46:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TO

ITEM NUMBER 32 NOW?

10:46:39 >> NO, SIR, THANK YOU.

10:46:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




AGAIN, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE IN

CHAMBERS THAT WANTS TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?

THAT'S ALL WE HAVE VIRTUALLY.

THANK YOU.

LET'S GO TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS.

PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:46:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HOLD ON, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MOVE ITEMS 6 AND 7.

10:47:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ROLL CALL.

10:47:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:47:15 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

10:47:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

10:47:16 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

10:47:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:47:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

10:47:20 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

10:47:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCILMAN GUDES, PARKS, RECREATION AND CULTURAL COMMITTEE.

10:47:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE ITEM NUMBER 8.

10:47:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ROLL CALL.




10:47:35 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

10:47:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

10:47:37 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

10:47:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

10:47:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:47:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:47:41 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

10:47:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:47:47 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 9 THROUGH 20,

PLEASE.

10:47:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ROLL CALL.

10:47:56 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

10:47:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

10:47:58 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

10:47:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:48:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:48:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

10:48:04 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

10:48:09 >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON NUMBER 23

SEPARATELY, PLEASE.




WHEN THIS CONTRACT CAME UP A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I WAS NOT

REALLY IN FAVOR, TRY TO BE A TEAM PLAYER, I VOTED FOR IT FOR

THE ADMINISTRATION AND I SINCE REGRET THAT DECISION BECAUSE

THE WAY THE PROCESS WAS HANDLED, SO I'M GOING TO VOTE

AGAINST ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS RELATED TO THIS CONTRACT OR

RENEWALS.

THANK YOU.

10:48:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA --

10:48:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'LL HOLD 23 FOR DISCUSSION FURTHER.

10:48:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU'LL BE DOING --

10:48:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
21, 22, AND 24, 25, 26.

10:48:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:48:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

10:48:54 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

10:48:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:48:55 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

10:48:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:48:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

10:49:01 >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

10:49:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

23.

10:49:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WANT TO DISCUSS IT, WE'LL DISCUSS IT.




10:49:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO

DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER 23?

10:49:14 >>BILL CARLSON:
NO, I SAID EVERYTHING.

I WANT TO VOTE SEPARATELY.

10:49:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I MOVE RESOLUTION 23.

10:49:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:49:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:49:24 >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.

10:49:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:49:29 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

10:49:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

10:49:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

10:49:32 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO AND

HURTAK BEING ABSENT.

10:49:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. CARLSON, BUILDING, ZONING AND

PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.

10:49:41 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, SIR, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT REAL FAST?

ON ITEM NUMBER 33, APPRECIATE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS

WORKING WITH THE TAMPA THEATRE.

YOU ALL MAY REMEMBER ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO, THE LAST MAYOR

VICIOUSLY ATTACKED TAMPA THEATRE AND ALMOST DESTROYED THE

ORGANIZATION.

I HOPE THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION WILL WORK WITH THE TAMPA




THEATRE TO TRY TO PROTECT IN THE FUTURE.

WE MAY NOT ALWAYS HAVE A FRIENDLY COUNCIL OR FRIENDLY MAYOR

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE TO PROTECT THIS IMPORTANT

INSTITUTION.

WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE 27 THROUGH 34, PLEASE.

10:50:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:50:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:50:21 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

10:50:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

10:50:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:50:26 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

10:50:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

10:50:30 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

10:50:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:50:37 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, MOVE ITEM 35.

10:50:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:50:47 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

10:50:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

10:50:49 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.




10:50:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:50:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:50:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

10:50:56 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

10:50:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MOTION --

10:51:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO OPEN 36 THROUGH 55.

10:51:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED?

THANK YOU.

LET'S TAKE OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, FILE NUMBER E2022-8 CH

27.

ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 36.

YES, I'M SORRY.

ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO BE GIVING ANY TESTIMONY TODAY DURING

THESE PROCEEDINGS, WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE TO BE SWORN IN?

AGAIN, ANYONE GIVING ANY TESTIMONY.

[OATH ADMINISTERED BY THE CLERK]

10:51:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:51:49 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND HISTORIC

PRESERVATION MANAGER.




HERE THIS MORNING TO PROUDLY BRING YOU THE RECOMMENDATION OF

THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION TO INCREASE THE

INVENTORY OF HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED PROPERTIES IN OUR CITY.

I DO HAVE A PowerPoint TO ASSIST US.

THIS IS NUMBER 36, WHICH IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO ADD THE

STOVALL HOUSE AS A LOCAL LANDMARK TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.

THE OWNER, STOVALL HOUSE, LLC, SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR

LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION IN MAY OF 2021.

THE APPLICATIONS, AS YOU KNOW FOR THESE PARTICULAR REQUESTS,

ARE REVIEWED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND THE

DETERMINATION OF ELIGIBILITY IS THEN BROUGHT TO YOU IN THE

FORM OF A RECOMMENDATION.

ELIGIBLE PROPERTIES MUST MEET THE CRITERIA SPECIFIED IN

27-257 WHICH I'LL REVIEW IN JUST A MOMENT.

LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION DOES MANY THINGS.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE LIST, BUT IT

CERTAINLY PRESERVES, PROMOTES AND IMPROVES THE HISTORIC

NATURE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND BRINGS VERY NECESSARY

ECONOMIC INCENTIVES TO THESE PROPERTIES.

THE PROPERTY BEFORE YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS ONE OF THE GRAND

ESTATE HOUSES OF THE EARLY 20th CENTURY.

AND THESE ARE AN ASSET THAT REALLY ARE QUICKLY DISAPPEARING

IN OUR CITY.

THE 1931 SANBORN MAP WITH THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IS LOCATED

ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, JUST TO THE SOUTH OF COACHMAN.




YOU SEE ON THE AERIAL MAP A MORE CONTEMPORARY VERSION OF THE

SITE AS IT'S BEEN BUILT OUT.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AND NOW SERVES AS A

PRIVATE CLUB.

INTERESTING, IF YOU GO BACK ONE DECADE PRIOR, THE PROPERTY

ACTUALLY EXTENDED FROM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD TO WHAT WOULD BE

KNOWN AS MacDILL AVENUE TODAY.

QUITE A LARGE PARCEL OF LAND BEFORE IT WAS PARCELED FOR

RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

STOVALL HOUSE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1909.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED AS THE HOME FOR LOGAN T. AND

FLORENCE M. TROUSDELL.

THEY ONLY OCCUPIED IT FOR A SHORT TIME.

THEN IT WAS PURCHASED AND COMPLETED BY WALLACE F. STOVALL.

HE RESIDED IN THE HOUSE FOR 30 YEARS JUST UNTIL THE

CONCLUSION OF WORLD WAR II.

IT WAS DESIGNED BY VERY RENOWNED TAMPA ARCHITECT NAMED

FRANCIS JAKE KENNARD.

MR. KENNARD ALSO DESIGNED THE FLORIDAN HOTEL AND CENTRO

ESPANOL DE YBOR CITY.

IT'S DESIGNED IN THE NEOCLASSIC STYLE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE

PROMINENT DESIGNS OF THAT ERA.

IT IS REALLY TYPIFIED BY THE DEFINED GABLED PORTICO AND THE

VERY LARGE CORINTHIAN COLUMNS ON THE ENTRY.

MR. STOVALL'S MOST RENOWNED ASSOCIATION WAS THAT HE FOUNDED




AND WAS A LONGTIME PUBLISHER FOR THE TAMPA TRIBUNE.

THIS IS THE MOST INTACT EXAMPLE OF THE IMPACT OF MR. STOVALL

ON THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

THERE ARE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT HAVE EITHER BEEN DEMOLISHED

OR ALTERED BEYOND RECOGNITION.

THE APPLICATION, AS I SAID, WAS SUBMITTED IN MAY OF 2021.

THE HPC'S RECOMMENDATION CAME ON JANUARY 11 OF THIS YEAR,

AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DETERMINATION OF

ELIGIBILITY WAS FEBRUARY 25th.

NOTICE HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY THE OWNER TO THE SURROUNDING

PROPERTY OWNERS AND REGISTERED ORGANIZATIONS AND THAT PROOF

OF NOTICE HAS BEEN SUBMITTED WITH THE CLERK.

UNDER 27-257, WHICH IS THE CRITERIA THAT THE HPC USES TO

DETERMINE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE, THE PROPERTY DID ACHIEVE

ITS SIGNIFICANCE DURING THE DEFINED PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE

OF 1909.

NORMALLY, THESE PROPERTIES HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 50 YEARS OLD.

THIS ONE IS WELL OVER A CENTURY.

SO, OBVIOUSLY, WOULD QUALIFY FOR ITS AGE.

ITS ASSOCIATION WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE SIGNIFICANT IN

THE CITY'S PAST, THAT OF WALLACE F. STOVALL, IS WELL

EXHIBITED.

THAT'S ALSO REFERRED TO AS THE CRITERION B UNDER THE

NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES WHICH SAYS PROPERTY IS

ALSO LISTED ON.




IT DOES EVOLVE -- INVOLVE A DISTINCTIVE CHARACTERISTIC AND

TYPE AND PERIOD OF CONSTRUCTION, WHICH REPRESENTS THE WORK

OF A MASTER AND POSSESSES HIGH ARTISTIC VALUE, OTHERWISE

REGARDED AS CRITERION C UNDER THE NATIONAL REGISTER.

SO THE MAIN CRITERIA THAT QUALIFY IT ARE BOTH ITS

ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND SIGNIFICANCE AS WELL AS ITS

RELATIONSHIP WITH MR. STOVALL.

I DID WANT TO SHOW A COUPLE OF PHOTOS OF THE INTERIOR.

AS YOU KNOW, THE PROTECTIVE ORDINANCES ONLY APPLY TO THE

EXTERIOR, BUT THIS IS REALLY AN EXCEPTIONAL PROPERTY.

SO I DID WANT TO JUST SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE PHOTOS OF

THE INTERIOR THAT WERE PROVIDED TO THE STAFF.

CAN YOU SEE THAT ON YOUR MONITOR?

10:57:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NOT YET.

YES.

10:57:22 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ:
THIS IS ONE OF THE SEATING ROOMS THAT'S

OFF THE INTERIOR.

YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE DETAILS.

SOME OF THE DETAILS IN THIS ROOM.

AS THE ADAPTIVE REUSE, THERE HAD TO BE THE INTRODUCTION OF

THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, WHICH WAS DONE IN A VERY

SENSITIVE MANNER BECAUSE IT IS NOW FOR OCCUPANCY.

HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE STAIRWELL.

SOME OF THE DETAILING.

THE HOUSE DOES HAVE THE ORIGINAL WOOD WINDOWS.




THE PREVIOUS OWNER, MR. HARRY TROUSDELL DID RESTORE THOSE.

AND HERE IS A WONDERFUL SHOT OFF THE SECOND FLOOR BALCONY

LOOKING TOWARDS BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.

BACK TO THE PowerPoint.

SO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION DID HOLD THE

RECOMMENDATION HEARING ON JANUARY 11 AND DID RECOMMEND TO

APPROVE THIS RECOMMENDATION.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I DID SAY, DID FIND IT CONSISTENT

WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THE STAFF DOES

RECOMMEND THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE LOCAL LANDMARK

DESIGNATION OF THE STOVALL HOUSE LOCATED AT 4621 BAYSHORE

BOULEVARD AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK BASED ON THE CRITERIA

THAT I REVIEWED UNDER 27-257.

WITH THAT, I KNOW THE OWNER AND SOME OF THE REPRESENTATIVES

FOR THE PROPERTY ARE HERE, IF THEY CARE TO ADD ANYTHING AS

WELL.

THANK YOU.

10:59:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:59:06 >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION REAL FAST.

WOULD IT BE FAIR, ACCURATE TO SAY THAT THIS DESIGNATION

LIMITS THE RIGHTS OF THE OWNER RATHER THAN PROVIDING ANY NEW

RIGHTS OR ENTITLEMENTS?

BECAUSE NOW WITH THIS DESIGNATION, THEY WOULD BE LIMITED AS

TO WHAT THEY COULD DO WITH THE BUILDING.

IT DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY NEW RIGHTS OR ENTITLEMENTS, RIGHT?




10:59:28 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ:
WELL, HISTORIC DESIGNATIONS DON'T IMPACT

THE ZONING OR USE OF A PARTICULAR PROPERTY, JUST THE

AESTHETIC LAYOUT OF THE SITE.

BUT I THINK PERHAPS THE REPRESENTATIVE'S ATTORNEY CAN KIND

OF SPEAK TO THE HISTORY OF THIS, THAT THERE WAS CONCERN

ABOUT THE NEW USE PUT IN PLACE AND LOCAL HISTORIC

DESIGNATION WAS LOOKED AT ONE WAY AS A CHECK ON ENSURING

THAT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE DOESN'T OVERWHELM

THE HISTORIC NATURE OF IT.

10:59:57 >>BILL CARLSON:
THE APPLICANT WILL SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES BUT

A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE BUY A BUILDING, THEY DON'T WANT

TO BE LIMITED AS TO WHAT THEY COULD DO WITH IT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULDN'T PUT THIS KIND OF DESIGNATION ON A

BUILDING BECAUSE IT COULD LIMIT THEM.

IN THIS CASE, THEY ARE VOLUNTARILY DOING IT.

I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK.

11:00:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?

11:00:25 >> YES.

TRUETT GARDNER.

400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.

IT'S GREAT BEING BACK HERE IN PERSON AND GREAT SEEING EACH

OF YOU.

I WANT TO THANK DENNIS AND HIS STAFF FOR ALL THE DILIGENCE

AND WORK THEY HAVE DONE.




WITH ME ARE SOL FLEISCHMAN, RENOWNED LOCAL ARCHITECT AND

PROJECT ARCHITECT OF THE STOVALL HOUSE AND ALSO BLAKE

CASPER, THE VISIONARY AND DEVELOPER BEHIND THIS.

AND WE ARE HERE TODAY TO MAKE GOOD ON A PROMISE THAT WAS

MADE FOUR YEARS AGO AS A PART OF OUR REZONING.

THIS PROJECT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT PRESERVING THE STOVALL HOUSE,

AND WE'RE HERE TODAY TO VOLUNTARILY ALLOW IT TO BE

DESIGNATED AS A LOCAL LANDMARK.

MR. CARLSON, TO YOUR QUESTION, WHAT THIS DOES IS PRIOR, IT

WAS ABSOLUTELY SLATED FOR POTENTIAL DEMOLITION.

WHAT THIS DOES IS GIVE IT THE LOCAL LANDMARK STATUS THAT

WOULD BE PROTECTED FROM THAT GOING FORWARD.

WITH THAT, I THINK SOL WANTS TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND MR.

CASPER AS WELL.

11:01:30 >> THANK YOU, TRUETT.

GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

SOL FLEISCHMAN.

FLEISCHMAN, GARCIA, MASLOWSKI ARCHITECTURE, 324 HYDE PARK

AVENUE.

AS A THIRD GENERATION NATIVE TAMPAN, HISTORIC PRESERVATION

HAS BEEN MY PASSION FOR MY 50 YEARS OF ARCHITECTURE

PRACTICE.

IT'S REALLY BEEN AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO WORK ON THIS

GREAT PROJECT, THE STOVALL HOUSE, AND TO HELP BRING BLAKE

CASPER'S VISION TO FRUITION.




THE PREVIOUS OWNER, HARRY TEASLEY, MAINTAINED AND PRESERVED

THE HOUSE VERY WELL, SO WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO MUCH TO

THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE.

ONG THE THINGS WE DID WAS, AS DENNIS POINTED OUT, A FIRE

SPRINKLER SYSTEM ON BOTH FLOORS OF THE STRUCTURE.

WE UPGRADED THE FIXTURES AND THE FINISHES THROUGHOUT THE

HOUSE, AND WE ADDED A NEW EXIT DOOR IN THE FORMER DINING

ROOM WHICH WAS A WINDOW WITHIN THAT SAME OPENING.

AND THAT EXIT DOOR MAKES THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE HOUSE

COMPLETELY HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE.

IN ADDITION, WE WERE SENSITIVE TO THE PLANNING OF THE SITE

TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HISTORIC HOUSE MAINTAINED PROMINENCE.

SO THAT SAID, THIS IS A TAMPA TREASURE AND I STRONGLY

RECOMMEND LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO BLAKE CASPER.

11:03:10 >> THANK YOU, SOL.

BLAKE CASPER, OWNER OF THE STOVALL HOUSE, LLC.

I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR GIVING US THE

OPPORTUNITY, THE TRUST TO TAKE STEWARDSHIP OF THE STOVALL

HOUSE.

AND REALLY INVITE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN

PERSON, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU, BUT WE'D LOVE TO GET THIS

DESIGNATION.

I THINK THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF OUR EFFORTS TO CONSERVE

THE PROPERTY AND CONSERVE A PIECE OF HISTORY FOR TAMPA.




SO WE'RE PROUD TO BE A PART OF IT.

WE'RE PROUD TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK IN THIS WAY.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRUST.

11:03:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ARE QUESTIONS?

ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?

11:04:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:04:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO CLOSE.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WAS THERE ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK?

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:04:18 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU, SIR.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER E2022-8 CH 27, ORDINANCE

BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE

OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, DESIGNATING STOVALL HOUSE

LOCATED AT 4621 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE

PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 HEREOF AS A LOCAL

LANDMARKS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN

CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

DATE.

11:04:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED

BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?




ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:04:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:04:51 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:04:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:04:54 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:04:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:04:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:04:58 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 2nd,

2022, AT 9:30 A.M.

11:05:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 37, FILE E2022-8 CH 14.

11:05:19 >> SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

ITEM 37 IS SECOND READING FOR AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD

ENDMENT SECTION 14-153 OF THE CODE WHICH IS A SECTION OF

THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

THIS ORDINANCE YOU'LL RECALL MOVES THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM

THE LIST OF DISTRICTS WHERE NOISE IS MEASURED USING THE

DECIBEL LEVEL STANDARD.

THE EFFECT OF THIS WOULD BE TO HAVE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT

GOING FORWARD HAVE SOUND MEASURED USING THE PLAINLY AUDIBLE

STANDARD.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

11:05:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?




COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:05:53 >>LUIS VIERA:
JUST, AGAIN, WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR

HARD WORK ON THIS.

IT'S FUNNY ON THE NOISE ORDINANCE, MANY OF US, MYSELF

INCLUDED, WENT BACK AND FORTH ON IT AND WHATNOT, JUST BACK

AND FORTH ON IT, AND I THINK IN THE END, THOSE OF US WHO

VOTED TO RECONSIDER THE ENTIRE THING, AGAIN, MYSELF

INCLUDED, THEN WENT AND SAID, HEY, WE LEFT OUR FRIENDS AT

CHANNELSIDE BACK THERE AND THAT CERTAINLY WASN'T OUR INTENT.

I KNOW THAT YOU'VE WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS GOING ALL THE

WAY BACK.

I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THIS BECAUSE, AGAIN,

CHANNELSIDE IS UNIQUE, AND LIKE I ALWAYS SAY, SOMEWHERE IN

BETWEEN YBOR CITY AND TAMPA PALMS IS CHANNELSIDE, AND THAT'S

VERY, VERY TRUE.

SO JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.

THANK YOU.

11:06:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:06:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN, LIKE COUNCILMAN

VIERA JUST SAID, IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO DO SOMETHING.

SOMEBODY MAY SAY, I DON'T HEAR NOISE.

IF YOU'RE NOT NEAR BARS, NOISE, MUSIC, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO

HEAR MUCH NOISE.

ALL IN ALL, IT'S LIKE SAYING YOU MIGHT BUY AN ACRE IN A

TOMATO PATCH AND NOT HEAR MUCH.




AS SOON AS THAT ACRE DEVELOPS, YOU'LL HEAR A LOT.

DEPENDS WHAT MOVES THERE, IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO NEGATE

SOME OF THE NEGATIVE WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THIS IS

ONE OF THEM.

I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR DOING WHAT THEY DO AND THE

REST OF THE CITY FOR UNDERSTANDING WHAT NOISE REALLY IS IF

YOU LIVE THERE.

IF YOU LIVE THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THERE.

IF YOU DON'T LIVE THERE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR IT.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:07:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO MAKE COMMENT?

11:07:44 >> GOOD MORNING AND CONGRATULATIONS, MR. CITRO AND

MR. MANISCALCO.

I'M LARRY RINDERKNECHT.

I LIVE IN THE TOWERS OF CHANNELSIDE ON THE 22nd FLOOR,

TOWER ONE ABOVE PARK AND REC.

I'M HERE.

I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE, AND I'M HERE TO

STRONGLY ENDORSE THIS SECOND READING OF THE AMENDMENT.

I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND WILLINGNESS TO

HELP.

IT IS VERY COMFORTING TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A CONCERNED AND

INVOLVED CITY COUNCIL FOCUSED ON MAKING OUR LIVES BETTER.




AND ON UNDERSTANDING THAT THE INTEREST OF BUSINESSES AND

CITIZENRY CAN ON SOME OCCASIONS BE CONFLICTING.

I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, WE SIMPLY

SEEK BALANCE BETWEEN A BUSINESS' RIGHT TO MAKE THE NOISE AND

OUR RIGHT TO LIVE WITHOUT IT.

PARK AND REC MOVED INTO OUR RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, NOT THE

REVERSE.

HAVING SAID THAT, AS I SAID BEFORE, I WANT TO STRONGLY

SUPPORT YOUR ADOPTION OF THE SECOND READING SO THAT WE CAN

HAVE SOME CONTROL OF THE NOISE BEING PRODUCED BY PARK AND

REC UNTIL 1:30 TO 2 A.M. AS RECENTLY AS TUESDAY NIGHT.

THAT CAN BE HEARD AND FELT IN OUR BEDROOM.

SO THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL WE BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO SLEEP.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

11:09:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:09:42 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:09:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO CLOSE.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. GUDES.




COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:09:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
FILE NUMBER E2022-8 CH 14, ORDINANCE BEING

PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF

THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE REGULATION OF

NOISE, MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES,

CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE III (NOISE); AMENDING SECTION 14-153,

UNREASONABLY EXCESSIVE NOISE FROM A PROPERTY PROHIBITED.

YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT, CHANNEL DISTRICT, AND THE ARENA

DISTRICT; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN

CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN

EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:10:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:10:30 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:10:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:10:31 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:10:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:10:36 >> MANISCALCO?

11:10:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:10:38 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO

BEING ABSENT AT VOTE AND HURTAK BEING ABSENT.

11:10:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AGENDA ITEM 38, FILE TA/CPA21-01.




11:10:52 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

THIS IS SECOND READING FOR TA/CPA 21-01, TEXT AMENDMENT TO

CORRECT SCRIVENER'S ERROR SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH LANGUAGE

IN ORDINANCE 2022-21.

CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT AT YOUR HEARING

ON FEBRUARY 17th.

WE SENT THIS AMENDMENT TO DEO WHO PROVIDED NO OBJECTION.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:11:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

NO ONE IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK.

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC HERE?

MOTION TO CLOSE.

11:11:48 >> SO MOVED.

11:11:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

ALL IN FAVOR?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. VIERA.

11:11:58 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.

ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-21 PASSED AND

ORDAINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON

FEBRUARY 17, 2022; CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY




SUBSTITUTING A NEW EXHIBIT A FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED

EXHIBIT A TO ACCURATELY REFLECT THE TEXT AMENDMENT LANGUAGE

SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT LANGUAGE IN

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-21; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;

PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:12:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:12:35 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:12:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:12:37 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:12:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:12:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:12:44 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO

BEING ABSENT AT VOTE AND HURTAK BEING ABSENT.

11:12:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

AGENDA ITEM 39, TA/CPA 21-14.

11:12:58 >> DANNY COLLINS AGAIN WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.

SECOND READING FOR TA/CPA 21-14, MAP AMENDMENT TO RECOGNIZE

THE SITES LOCATED AT 2111 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE UNDER THE

RESIDENTIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT AT YOUR HEARING

ON APRIL 14.




THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:13:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

HEARING NONE, MOTION TO CLOSE?

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?

MR. MECHANIK, YOU'RE THERE.

11:13:32 >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF

THE APPLICANT, AND WE ARE HERE SIMPLY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS.

THIS IS A COMPANION TO ITEM 47 WHICH WAS THE REZONING FOR

THE PROPERTY.

11:13:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?

ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE?

11:14:00 >> MOTION TO CLOSE.

11:14:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED?

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:14:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MOVE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

ADOPTION.

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE

PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE




PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2111 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE FROM LIGHT

INDUSTRIAL LI IN PARENTHESES AND RESIDENTIAL-35 (R-35) TO

RESIDENTIAL-35 (R-35); PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL

ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;

PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:14:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:14:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:14:57 >> VIERA?

MIR?

11:14:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:14:59 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:15:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:15:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:15:05 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA ABSENT AT

VOTE AND HURTAK BEING ABSENT.

11:15:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:15:12 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

11:15:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 40, FILE NUMBER E2022-8

CH 27.

11:15:28 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND HISTORIC




PRESERVATION MANAGER.

STAFF PRESENTED YOU WITH A FULL PRESENTATION DURING FIRST

READING.

I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

11:15:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT?

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?

11:15:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA,

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

ALL IN FAVOR?

COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:16:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,

ENDING THE WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES GROUP TO INCLUDE

THE MacFARLANE BUILDING LOCATED AT 1902 NORTH HOWARD

AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

SECTION 3 HEREOF AS A LOCAL LANDMARKS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL

OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,

PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:16:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE.




11:16:29 >> VIERA?

MIRANDA?

11:16:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:16:33 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:16:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES MAN'S YES.

11:16:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:16:37 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA ABSENT AT

VOTE AND HURTAK ABSENT.

11:16:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA 41.

E2022-8 CH 27.

11:16:50 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ:
DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW

AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION MANAGER.

THIS IS ANOTHER ADDITION TO THE WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE

PROPERTIES GROUP, AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

11:17:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A

PUBLIC COMMENT?

MR. MECHANIK, I BELIEVE WE HAVE YOU ONLINE, MR. GARCIA, AND

MR. SCHULLER.

OH, THAT'S THE WRONG NUMBER FOR THEM.

NEVER MIND.

THANK YOU, THREE GENTLEMEN.

IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE?

11:17:23 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.




11:17:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO CLOSE.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:17:37 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE E2022-8 CH 27,

ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE

WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES GROUP TO INCLUDE PROPERTY

LISTING LOCATED AT 1208 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA,

AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 HEREOF, AS A

LOCAL LANDMARK, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN

CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

DATE.

11:18:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED

BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:18:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:18:15 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:18:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:18:16 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:18:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:18:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.




11:18:20 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

11:18:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 42, FILE REZ-20-66.

11:18:34 >>ZAIN HUSAIN:
ZAIN HUSAIN DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

FIRST, MR. CITRO AND MANISCALCO, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW

ROLES.

ALWAYS A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 42, CASE REZ-20-66.

THIS BEING HEARD FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

NOW, YESTERDAY, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO GO

TO FIRST READING ON JUNE 2nd AT 5:01 P.M.

THIS WAS SENT YESTERDAY TO THE COUNCILMEN.

BUT THE PROJECT IS FOR 5301 WEST TYSON AVENUE FROM IH

INDUSTRIAL HEAVY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,

MULTIFAMILY, RETAIL SALES, SPECIALTY GOODS, AND CONVENIENCE

GOODS, SHOPPER'S GOODS AND MARINA.

THIS BEING REQUESTED FOR A CONTINUANCE.

I BELIEVE YOU LEAVE IT TO A VOTE.

11:19:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ARE YOU THE PETITIONER FOR THIS?

11:19:25 >> I AM.

11:19:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ARE YOU STILL ASKING FOR THE CONTINUANCE?

11:19:29 >> YES.

WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU RESPECTFULLY CONTINUE THIS OR SCHEDULE

IT FOR -- RESCHEDULE IT FOR FIRST READING ON JUNE 2nd.




ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE IS AN

ACCESS POINT ONTO THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST.

IT WAS DISCOVERED LAST WEEK THAT THE APPLICANT FOR THE

REZONING ON THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST PUT THEIR ACCESS POINTS

IN A LOCATION THAT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH WHERE OUR ACCESS IS

PLANNED TO BE.

AS A RESULT, WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT THIS

NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND FIXED.

AND IN ORDER TO FIX AND REALIGN OUR ACCESS POINTS SO THAT WE

CAN MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, WE NEED TO GO BACK TO FIRST

READING.

IT'S BEEN DETERMINED THAT IT'S FULLY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE

SETTLEMENT AND MEDIATION, BUT JUST REQUIRES A TWEAK TO THE

SITE PLAN THAT CANNOT BE DONE THROUGH SECOND READING.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE REQUESTING THIS.

11:20:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF I MAY ASK ON THE RECORD, THEN YOU ARE

REQUESTING TO GO BACK TO THE FIRST READING BECAUSE THE

ALIGNMENT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH EACH OTHER?

11:20:43 >> YES.

WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT IS

AS WE PROPOSE AND THAT IT WORKS AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL COME

BACK AS AN EVEN BETTER PROJECT.

11:20:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU CAN, IF YOU COULD

STATE YOUR NAME.

11:20:58 >> ANN POLLOCK, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, 433 CENTRAL




SAVE, ST. PETE.

11:21:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THIS THE FIRST TIME YOU'VE ASKED FOR

CONTINUANCE ON THIS CASE?

11:21:11 >> IT IS -- I THINK WE ASKED INITIALLY FOR A CONTINUANCE

FROM JANUARY TO MARCH.

THAT WAS TO -- YES.

11:21:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO

THE CONTINUANCE ONLY?

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE

CONTINUANCE ONLY?

11:21:33 >> JEAN STROHMEYER, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE OR IF YOU WOULD

LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

11:21:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. STROHMEYER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO

THE CONTINUANCE ONLY?

11:21:45 >> YES, SURE.

I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD NOT GET A CONTINUANCE.

THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND

THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN THEIR ACT TOGETHER BY NOW.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT FOR THEM TO GET A CONTINUANCE,

SO I SAY NO.

11:22:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. STROHMEYER, YOU NEED TO BE VISIBLE.

YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN, AND WE NEED TO HAVE YOUR NAME.

11:22:10 >> OH.

11:22:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE.




11:22:16 >> YES.

11:22:19 >>THE CLERK:
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT

YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

11:22:25 >> YES.

11:22:26 >>THE CLERK:
THANK YOU.

11:22:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. STROHMEYER.

11:22:32 >> HI --

11:22:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MS. STROHMEYER, THIS IS A CONTINUANCE

ACTUALLY TO GO BACK TO FIRST READING TO CORRECT A SITE PLAN

ALIGNMENT ISSUE.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU CAUGHT THAT OR NOT.

BUT THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE CONTINUANCE.

SO IF YOU HAVE A POSITION, YOU CAN SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE

WHETHER YOU'RE FOR IT OR AGAINST IT AND WHY, IF THAT'S THE

CASE.

11:22:55 >> OKAY.

MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER AND I JUST HEARD THAT YOU ALL ARE

GOING TO -- THEY ARE TRYING TO GET A CONTINUANCE AND GO BACK

TO FIRST READING.

ACTUALLY, I THINK THAT WILL GIVE US A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO

START TELLING THE TRUTH IN THIS MATTER, SO THEREFORE I

CHANGED MY MIND AND I THINK THE CONTINUANCE IS A GREAT IDEA

GOING BACK TO FIRST READING.

THANK YOU.

11:23:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MS. STROHMEYER.




ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

11:23:28 >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION.

11:23:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MOTION TO CLOSE.

11:23:32 >> SO MOVED.

11:23:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:23:40 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO CONTINUE

THIS TO WHAT DATE FOR FIRST READING?

TO JUNE 2nd FOR FIRST READING.

11:23:52 >> MOVE TO REOPEN.

11:23:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE]

11:23:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

11:24:03 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE

THIS TO JUNE 2nd FOR FIRST READING.

11:24:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY --

11:24:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M SORRY.

JUNE 2nd OF 2022 AT WHAT TIME?

9:30 A.M.?

11:24:18 >> 5:
01 P.M.




11:24:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M SORRY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

5:01.

5:01 P.M.

11:24:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THAT GOOD FOR YOUR MOTION, COUNCILMAN

CARLSON?

11:24:31 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:24:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED

BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:24:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:24:45 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:24:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:24:47 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:24:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:24:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:24:50 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

11:24:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM 43, AB2-21-28.

11:25:02 >>ZAIN HUSAIN:
ZAIN HUSAIN DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

3225 SOUTH MacDILL AVENUE TO CORRECT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR

BY SUBSTITUTING A NEW EXHIBIT A FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED

EXHIBIT A TO REFLECT AN ACCURATE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE




SUBJECT PROPERTY CONSISTENT WITH THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION ON

THE SITE PLAN AND ALSO IN ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-38.

I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, IF NEEDED.

11:25:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

THANK YOU.

HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?

11:25:41 >> I HAVE NOT.

11:25:43 >>THE CLERK:
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT

YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

11:25:48 >> I DO.

11:25:48 >>THE CLERK:
THANK YOU.

11:25:49 >> JAIME MAIER, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, 101 EAST KENNEDY

BOULEVARD, SUITE 3700.

I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I KNOW THIS IS SECOND READING, BUT I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE

ARE ANY.

THANK YOU.

11:26:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?

ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?

11:26:09 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:26:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO CLOSE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED?




THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:26:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
FILE NUMBER AB2-21-28, ORDINANCE BEING

PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-38 PASSED AND

ORDAINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON

FEBRUARY 17, 2022; CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY

SUBSTITUTING A NEW EXHIBIT A FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED

EXHIBIT A TO REFLECT AN ACCURATE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE

SUBJECT PROPERTY CONSISTENT WITH THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION ON

THE SITE PLAN AND IN ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-38, PROVIDING FOR

SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:26:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:26:58 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:27:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:27:02 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:27:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:27:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:27:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:27:07 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

11:27:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 44, FILE VAC-22-08.

11:27:22 >> DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION PRESENTING FILE VAC-22-08 FOR

SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

IT'S A VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OR

ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF YUKON STREET, NORTH OF SEWARD

STREET, EAST OF SEMINOLE AVENUE AND WEST OF INTERSTATE

275/CENTRAL AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF IRVINTON HEIGHTS.

STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

11:27:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

MOTION TO CLOSE?

I'M SORRY.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?

IS ANYBODY REGISTERED?

11:28:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:28:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO

CLOSE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:28:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

ADOPTION.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,

CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING A

RIGHT-OF-WAY/ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF YUKON STREET, NORTH




OF SEWARD STREET, EAST OF SEMINOLE AVENUE AND WEST OF

INTERSTATE 275/CENTRAL AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF IRVINTON

HEIGHTS, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OF HILLSBOROUGH

COUNTY, FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF

SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS

MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR

ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR

DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICTS,

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:28:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:28:57 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:28:58 >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.

11:29:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:29:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:29:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:29:08 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA VOTING NO, GUDES

BEING ABSENT AT VOTE, AND HURTAK BEING ABSENT.

11:29:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 45, FILE REZ-21-94.

11:29:24 >>ZAIN HUSAIN:
ZAIN HUSAIN DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OF

THE LOCATION 6107 SOUTH 4th STREET.




PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS 60 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO

RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.

THIS BEING EUCLIDEAN, NO SITE PLAN WAS REQUIRED.

I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:29:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

SEEING NONE, MR. MICHELINI.

11:29:51 >>STEVE MICHELINI:
STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE

PETITIONER.

WE PLACED ALL OF THE PERTINENT INFORMATION AND DOCUMENTATION

IN THE RECORD, AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AT

SECOND READING.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

11:30:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?

11:30:12 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:30:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:30:23 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED

FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING

PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 6107 SOUTH 4th STREET

IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY




DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION

RS-60, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL,

SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:30:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ANY COMMENTS?

ANY DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:30:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:30:51 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:30:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:30:54 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:30:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:30:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:30:57 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

11:31:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:31:02 >>STEVE MICHELINI:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

11:31:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 46, REZ-21-46.

11:31:09 >>ZAIN HUSAIN:
THANKS SO MUCH.

ZAIN HUSAIN DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT

LOCATIONS 401 AND 505 NORTH ROME AVENUE AND 1517 WEST GRAY

STREET.

THIS IS PROPOSED REZONE FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND IG




INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,

MULTIFAMILY, STOREFRONT/RESIDENTIAL WITH

BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND RETAIL SALES AND

BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND RETAIL SALES.

SITE PLANS WERE TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE TWO DAYS

AGO.

I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.

11:31:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

DO WE HAVE THE PETITIONER?

11:31:50 >> YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M DAVE MECHANIK.

I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

AND I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, SIMPLY AVAILABLE

TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.

11:32:05 >> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?

IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS?

11:32:18 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:32:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO CLOSE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:32:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I MOVE ITEM 46.




ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

401 AND 505 NORTH ROME AVENUE AND 1517 WEST GRAY STREET, IN

THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED

IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS PD

(PLANNED DEVELOPMENT) AND IG (INDUSTRIAL GENERAL) TO PD

(PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY;

STOREFRONT/RESIDENTIAL WITH BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND

RETAIL SALES; BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND RETAIL

SALES); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:33:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:33:11 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:33:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:33:13 >> HURTAK? CARLSON? GUDES?

11:33:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:33:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:33:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:33:20 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING

ABSENT AT VOTE AND HURTAK ABSENT.

11:33:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 47, FILE REZ-21-85.

11:33:32 >>ZAIN HUSAIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.




ZAIN HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

LOCATION 2111 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE.

PROPOSED REZONING FROM CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, RM-16,

RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND RS-50 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY

TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY

ATTACHED AND RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY.

SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:34:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

MR. MECHANIK, ARE YOU REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT?

11:34:10 >> YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS

DAVID MECHANIK.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, AND WE ARE HERE TO

ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL

ON SECOND READING.

THANK YOU.

11:34:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS?

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?

11:34:39 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:34:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE MADE BY COUNCILMAN

MANISCALCO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?




COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:34:55 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER REZ-21-85,

ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

2111 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE

PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT

CLASSIFICATION CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, RM-16 RESIDENTIAL

MULTIFAMILY AND RS-50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD

PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED AND

RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:35:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

11:35:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:35:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:35:34 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:35:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:35:35 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:35:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:35:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:35:39 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

11:35:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. MECHANIK.




FILE NUMBER 48, REZ-21-99.

11:35:54 >>ZAIN HUSAIN:
THANKS SO MUCH.

ZAIN HUSAIN.

THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT

THE LOCATION 5242 AND 5250 EAST BROADWAY AVENUE.

PROPOSED REZONING FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED

DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, AND STRIP SHOPPING

CENTER WITH ALL CI USES.

SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:36:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

PETITIONER?

GOOD MORNING.

11:36:31 >> GOOD MORNING.

TRAVIS HILLS.

I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE

APPLICANT.

11:36:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT?

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE

PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS?

AND WE HAVE NO ONE VIRTUALLY.

11:36:50 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:36:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?




ANY OPPOSED?

WHO DID I LEAVE OFF WITH.

COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:37:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
FILE NUMBER REZ-21-99.

ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

5242 AND 5250 EAST BROADWAY AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,

FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM

ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD

PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY AND STRIP

SHOPPING CENTER WITH ALL CI USES; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

DATE.

ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE SAID ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING

HAD BEEN INITIATED BY -- OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

11:37:35 >> SECOND.

11:37:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:37:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:37:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:37:46 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:37:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:37:51 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.




11:37:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:37:54 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

11:37:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

11:38:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
TRAVIS, THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD PROJECT

FOR THE SIX-MILE CREEK AREA.

THOSE OLD TRAILER PARKS BEEN TORN AWAY MANY, MANY MOONS AGO.

IT'S EMPTY OVER THERE.

THIS WILL REALLY BE SOMETHING FOR THE PEOPLE OVER THERE.

11:38:18 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

IF I MAY, ON THAT NOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT TO THE

ATTENTION OF COUNCIL AND YOU IN PARTICULAR, IS THAT THE

OWNER HAS INFORMED ME OF THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN

STRUGGLING IN THE AREA WITH SOME THINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN

PLACE WITH REGARDS TO CRIME AND ENCAMPMENT OF HOMELESS,

ET CETERA, AND THAT THEY HAVE KIND OF EXHAUSTED MANY OF

THEIR EFFORTS WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, LAW ENFORCEMENT,

ET CETERA.

AND THEY WERE ADVISED TO ACTUALLY BRING THIS MATTER BEFORE

YOU.

SO I DID WANT TO SPEAK ON IT AT THIS TIME JUST TO KIND OF

MAKE YOU AWARE THAT WE WILL BE AT SOME POINT COMING BACK TO

SEE IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF EFFORT THAT WE CAN MAKE TO

ADDRESS THESE MATTERS AS WE GO FORWARD BECAUSE WE'RE THE

FIRST IN THAT AREA TO ESTABLISH SOME REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS,




BUT THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE INTERESTED, AND THIS IS KIND OF

BECOMING A BIT OF AN OBSTACLE.

11:39:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I UNDERSTAND.

I'VE DRIVEN BY THERE, AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THE HOMELESS

PEOPLE ARE GOING IN THAT AREA BECAUSE IT'S OPEN.

I THINK ONCE YOU GET STARTED WITH THE PROJECT, IT WILL CLEAR

THAT OUT AND BE A GOOD DEVELOPMENT.

11:39:34 >> YES, IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS, SO

THAT'S A PARTICULAR --

11:39:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I'LL MAKE SURE WE SEND SOMEBODY OVER TPD

AND CODE AND MAKE SURE LOOK AT THAT.

11:39:44 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:39:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:39:45 >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, I JUST, ONE RECOMMENDATION.

WE'VE HAD SIMILAR ISSUES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND I

WOULD RECOMMEND BEFORE YOU GUYS COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL, TO

TALK TO CHIEF OF STAFF, CHIEF BENNETT.

IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY HE'S BEEN ABLE TO PULL TOGETHER

ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD HANDLE THE ISSUES

AND HE'S IN PARTICULAR SENSITIVE TO RELOCATING HOMELESS

PEOPLE.

I WOULD CHECK WITH HIM FIRST.

HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SOLVE IT WITH A PHONE CALL.

11:40:12 >> OKAY.

WILL DEFINITELY DO THAT.




THANK YOU.

11:40:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 49, FILE REZ-22-03.

11:40:24 >>ZAIN HUSAIN:
THANKS SO MUCH.

ZAIN HUSAIN.

THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT

THE LOCATION 1304 EAST 23rd AVENUE.

PROPOSED REZONING FROM PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED

DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.

SITE PLANS WERE TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.

11:40:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?

11:40:51 >> EUGENE --

I LIVE AT 1220 EAST CUMBERLAND AVENUE IN TAMPA.

JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY.

11:40:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE PETITIONER?

IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE

PUBLIC COMMENT?

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?

11:41:09 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:41:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN

MANISCALCO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.




11:41:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR

SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

1304 EAST 23rd AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND

MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING

DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED

DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED; PROVIDING

AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:41:36 >> SECOND.

11:41:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:41:46 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:41:47 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

11:41:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:41:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:41:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:41:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:41:53 >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK

BEING ABSENT.

11:41:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA 50, FILE NUMBER REZ-22-16.

11:42:05 >>ZAIN HUSAIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ZAIN HUSAIN.

THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT




LOCATION 814 WEST AMELIA AVENUE.

PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS-60, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO

RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.

THIS BEING EUCLIDEAN, NO SITE PLAN WAS REQUIRED.

I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:42:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

11:42:28 >> GOOD MORNING.

JOHN LAROCCA, REPRESENTING THE OWNER APPLICANT.

101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, SUITE 2420.

I'M ONLY HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.

11:42:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE REPRESENTATIVE?

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS?

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?

11:42:51 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:42:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

COUNCILMAN --

11:43:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU MISSED IT.

[ LAUGHTER ]

11:43:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:43:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM NUMBER 50, MOVE AN ORDINANCE

REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 814 WEST AMELIA




AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY

DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION

RS-60, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL

SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:43:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M SORRY, MR. MIRANDA, THAT IS FOR SECOND

READING AND ADOPTION.

11:43:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:43:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.

11:43:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ANY DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:43:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:43:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:43:42 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:43:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:43:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:43:49 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING

ABSENT AT VOTE AND HURTAK BEING ABSENT.

11:43:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ITEM NUMBER 51, FILE REZ-22-21.



11:44:03 >>ZAIN HUSAIN:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

THIS IS PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT A

LOCATION 4801 COMMERCE STREET, PROPOSED REZONING FROM IG

INDUSTRIAL GENERAL AND RM-24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD,

PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RETAIL SALES, CONVENIENCE GOODS AND

GASOLINE.

SITE PLANS WERE TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:44:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

PETITIONER?

DO WE HAVE A PETITIONER ONLINE?

11:44:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:44:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN

MIRANDA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

11:44:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.

PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:44:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I THOUGHT I DID, DIDN'T I?

FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

I APOLOGIZE.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?

11:45:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU ARE ENTITLED TO ONE MISTAKE.

ONLY ONE.

11:45:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYBODY ONLINE?

MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN

MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

LET'S SEE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:45:17 >>BILL CARLSON:
FILE NUMBER REZ 22-21, FOR SECOND READING




AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL

VICINITY OF 4801 COMMERCE STREET IN THE ICED TEA CITY OF

TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1

FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL

AND RM-24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,

RETAIL SALES, CONVENIENCE GOODS AND GASOLINE PROVIDING AN

EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:45:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:45:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

11:45:49 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:45:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

11:45:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:45:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

11:45:57 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING

ABSENT AT VOTE AND HURTAK ABSENT.

11:46:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:46:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM 352.

11:46:17 >> CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

WE RECOMMEND YOU OPEN 52 AND 53 TOGETHER.

THEY ARE TOGETHER AND WILL HAVE THE SAME PRESENTATIONS.

11:46:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THEY ARE BOTH OPEN.

11:46:28 >> AND TO CLARIFY 52 IS A VACATION WHICH YOU WILL BE VOTING

ON TODAY.




53 IS THE STRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT REQUIRES TWO

PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO TODAY WILL BE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING,

THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IS MAY 19th.

SO EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A RESOLUTION INCLUDED IN YOUR

PACKAGE FOR CONVENIENCE, YOU WON'T BE VOTING ON THE

RESOLUTION UNTIL MAY 19th.

11:47:00 >>RON WIGGINTON:
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

ITEM 52 IS A VACATING APPLICATION THAT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT

THAN YOUR NORMAL VACATING APPLICATIONS IN THAT IT CONTAINS A

BRICK STREET REMOVAL REQUEST.

BUT AS FAR AS THE VACATING ITSELF, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND

CITY COUNCIL THAT YOU HAVE BROAD DISCRETION IN DETERMINING

WHETHER TO OOH PROFESSOR DENY THE APPLICATION PART OF THE

PACKAGE TO YOUR CONSIDERATION WHETHER RELIEVING THE ALLEY

WILL BE ALLEVIATE THE PUBLIC NUISANCE SUCH AS ILLEGAL

DUMPING OR CURTAIL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, WHETHER THE VACATING

WILL FOSTER REDEVELOPMENT OF ABUTTING PROPERTIES AND WHETHER

ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS ACCESS WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY

DIMINISHED OR COMPLETELY CUT OFF.

MR. ROSS SAMMONS IS AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY TO PROVIDE HIS

PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE AFTERWARDS TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

11:47:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. SAMMONS.

11:47:58 >>ROSS SAMMONS:
I ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.




CAN COUNCIL SEE MY SCREEN?

11:48:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, WE CAN.

THANK YOU.

11:48:17 >>ROSS SAMMONS:
FILE REZ 21-15 FOR FIRST READING

CONSIDERATION.

THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE FINLEY STREET, WEST

OF NEBRASKA AVENUE, EAST OF MERIDIAN AVENUE.

THESE RIGHTS-OF-WAY WERE CREATED FOR THE SUBDIVISION PLATTED

MAP OF FINLEY AND CAESAR SUBDIVISION EAST OF DOWNTOWN

CHANNEL DISTRICT.

THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS TO FACILITATE

AND RECONFIGURATION OF IMPROVEMENTS TO ROADWAY AND NETWORKS

WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN TAMPA CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT FOR

WATER STREET DEVELOPMENT.

THE APPLICANT ASKING TO VACATE THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY OF FINLEY,

WALTON AND CESAR STREETS AND BIRCH STREET AND WALTON AND

CESAR, 56,000 SQUARE FEET, THE STREETS ARE UNIMPROVED,

WALTON AND CESAR ARE BRICKS STREETS.

ALL PORTIONS OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH THE COMPENSATION OF

TECO, PEOPLE'S GAS, ARE NOTED AND REQUIRED FOR WATER,

STORMWATER, WASTEWATER, TECO, SPECTRUM.

MOST OF THE PORTIONS OF THE STREETS ARE CURRENTLY IN USE BUT

THERE'S SOME PRELIMINARY CONSTRUCTION GOING ON WITHIN THE

AREA, AND THEY ARE SHOWN IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES.

HERE ARE STREETS PROPOSED TO BE VACATED IN YELLOW.




THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS IN RED.

NORTH SIDE IS EAST FINLEY AND WALTON TO THE SOUTH, AND

CESAR.

AGAIN, THE ROADS TO BE VACATED IN PINK.

THIS JUST SHOWING IN READ THE ROADS TO BE VACATED WITHIN THE

SUBDIVISION PLAT.

AND HERE SHOWING THE BRICK STREETS OF EAST WALTON AND SOUTH

CESAR STREET HERE.

HERE IS AN IMAGE OF FINLEY STREET LOOKING EAST FROM NEBRASKA

AVENUE.

FINLEY STREET LOOKING WEST TOWARDS NEBRASKA AVENUE.

EAST OF CESAR STREET.

WALTON STREET LOOKING WEST FROM NEBRASKA AVENUE AGAIN, THE

BRICK STREET.

WALTON STREET LOOKING EAST TOWARDS NEBRASKA AVENUE.

CESAR STREET LOOKING SOUTH FROM FINLEY STREET.

CESAR STREET LOOKING NORTH FROM WALTON STREET.

CESAR STREET LOOKING SOUTH FROM WALTON STREET.

STAFF HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THE VACATING REQUEST BASED ON THE

RESPONSE WE RECEIVED FROM REVIEWING AGENCIES.

IF THE REQUEST IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, CONDITIONS ARE

REQUIRED FOR WATER, STORMWATER, WASTEWATER, TECO, FRONTIER

AND SPECTRUM.

TRANSPORTATION DESIGN AND MOBILITY REQUIRE THAT THE BRICKS

AND GRANITE CURBING BE PALLETIZED AND RETURNED TO THE CITY




FOR USE WITHIN PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH APPROVAL.

ALSO A FIVE YEAR CLAUSE IS INCLUDED FOR THIS VACATING.

CONDITIONS FOR NATURAL RESOURCES, TO COMPLY WITH TREE

PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN FOR ANY APPROVALS PLACED

ADJACENT TO TREES IN VACATED AREA.

THANK YOU.

11:52:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

11:52:22 >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU KIND OF SAID THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO

BE REITERATE ESPECIALLY FOR THE PUBLIC, THAT WE CITY

COUNCIL, I THINK THE CITY HAS A REQUIREMENT TO REUSE

HISTORIC BRICKS THAT ARE TAKEN UP.

AND YOU SAY THAT IT WILL BE REPALLETIZED AND RETURNED TO THE

CITY.

SO IT WILL GO TO THE STORAGE AREA WHERE THE CITY KEEPS

HISTORIC BRICKS AND WILL BE USED ON OTHER ROADS WHERE BRICKS

ARE BEING RESTORED.

CORRECT?

11:52:50 >> CORRECT.

AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IF THE APPLICANT REQUESTED TO USE

THE CURRENT BRICKS FOR THE FUTURE PROJECT THAT THAT WILL BE

CONSIDERED BY THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.

11:53:06 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.

11:53:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT?

I'M SORRY.




I MISSING -- MS. MANDELL.

11:53:21 >>JULIA MANDELL:
GRAY ROBINSON, EAST JACKSON STREET.

I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN AND MY TEAM HAS NOT BEEN SWORN.

11:53:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE THAT HADN'T BEEN SWORN IN?

(OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

11:53:37 >>JULIA MANDELL:
YES, I DO.

JULIA MANDELL FOR THE RECORD HERE REPRESENTING STRATEGIC

PROPERTIES PARTNERS, WHO IS THE APPLICANT FOR THE VACATION

OF THE BRICK STREET RELOCATION AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT

AGREEMENT.

THIS PROJECT IS PART OF THE THIRD PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT OF

WATER STREET TAMPA.

I AM HERE WITH JIM SHIMBERG AND DAN MORRIS.

MR. MORRIS WILL GIVE A FURTHER EXPLANATION OF THE

INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGE TO RECONFIGURE THE STREETS IN THE

WATER STREET AREA AS THEY HAVE BEEN REIMAGINING,

RECONFIGURING THE STREETS IN THAT AREA, AND I WILL ASK MR.

MORRIS TO COME UP TO DESCRIBE EXACTLY WHAT THE PROJECT

ENTAILS, AND THEN I CAN SUM UP WHAT IT IS, AND I WANT TO BE

RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

11:54:38 >> I WILL BE USING THE PROJECTOR.

MY NAME IS DARREN MORRIS, WITH STRATEGIC PROPERTY PARTIES,

AS JULIA MENTIONED. I'M A VICE PRESIDENT WITH OUR MASTER

PLANNING GROUP AND EXCITED TO BE BEFORE YOU TODAY AND




HONORED TO SHARE MORE ABOUT THE FUTURE VISION OF THE

PROJECT, AS WE LOOK TO CONTINUE THE DEVELOPMENT NORTH OF THE

CURRENT PHASE.

WE ARE NEARING COMPLETION OF PHASE ONE OF WATER STREET

HAVING DELIVERED OVER 4 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF NEW OFFICE,

HOSPITALITY USES.

ADDITIONALLY, WE DEVELOPED NEW ROADS, INFRASTRUCTURES,

STREETSCAPES, PARKS AND PLAZA, AND ALL THIS HAS BEEN WITH

THE COOPERATION AND SUPPORT OF THE CITY COUNTY AND CRA

TEAMS, AND AS THE PROGRESS CONTINUES NORTH.

HOPEFULLY MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COME OUT AND SEE THE

REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA.

IT'S ABOUT QUITE EXCITING TO SEE THE STREETS TAKE SHAPE AND

VIBRANCY START TO OCCUR IN THIS AREA, AND DOWNTOWN STARTS TO

FURTHER BLOSSOM.

THIS IMAGE ON SCREEN DEPICTS APPROXIMATELY THE ROADS THAT

WERE RECONFIGURED, UPGRADED AS PART OF THE ROAD PROJECT SO I

SEE THIS BECAUSE THIS WAS -- THE ROAD WORK RECONFIGURATION

AND INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES WERE ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS TO

FACILITATE THE REDEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.

AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO

START ON IN THE NEXT PHASE TO THE NORTH, AND THE FIRST STEPS

TO FACILITATE THE PROJECT ADVANCING IN THE FORTHCOMING

YEARS.

SO IN THIS IMAGE, YOU SEE THE EXISTING ROADS AGAIN IN RED,




AS PART OF THESE PROJECTS.

IN BLUE IS A CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT OF THE PHASE 3 ROAD NETWORK.

THE GOAL IS TO EXTEND WATER STREET FROM ITS CURRENT

NORTHERLY TERMINUS AT CUMBERLAND AND HAVE IT CONTINUE GOING

NORTH CONNECTING TO WHITING STREET.

ADDITIONALLY, AS MENTIONED WE ARE LOOKING TO RECONFIGURE AND

REASSIGN THREE NEW EAST-WEST CONNECTIONS BRANCHING OFF OF

WATER STREET AND CONNECTING TO MERIDIAN AVENUE AND HELP

FURTHER FACILITATE BETTER ACCESS BETWEEN THE CHANNEL

DISTRICT AND CDD.

ADDITIONALLY IN ORANGE, DEPICTING SOME AREA IMPROVEMENTS

PLANNED AS PART OF THEIR PROCESS AND INCORPORATED WITH BOTH

THEA AND THE CITY IN REGARDS TO FUTURE OF THESE PAVED ROADS.

SPECIFICALLY WITHIN PHASE 3, WE HAVE DIVIDED IT INTO TWO

MAIN STAGES.

TODAY, THE DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT

THAT'S BEING HEARD IS JUST FOR PHASE 3-A.

DOWN THE LINE WE WILL LOOK TO COME BEFORE YOU TO DISCUSS

PHASE 3-B.

THE INITIAL STEP IS TO BEGIN WITH THE EXTENSION OF WATER

STREET TO FINLEY AVENUE AND TO REDEVELOP AND RECONFIGURE

FINLEY AND WATER STREET TO CONNECT TO MERIDIAN AVENUE TO

CONNECT FURTHER ACCESS TO THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FOR CARS AND

PEDESTRIANS AND ALSO CREATE URBAN STREET GRID CONSISTENT

WITH THE FOUR PRINCIPALS VALUES OF THE FIRST PHASE TO




PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT, SUSTAINABILITY, WALKABILITY, AND

FURTHER IMPROVE THIS SECTION OF THE CDD.

OUR GOAL IS TO START THIS WORK TOWARDS THE LATTER HALF OF

THIS YEAR, LATE 2022, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO

PROCEED ACCORDINGLY.

JULIA, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, JULIA WILL COVER SOME OF

THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT IN CASE THERE'S ANY DETAILS THAT

ANYONE WANTS TO FURTHER UNDERSTAND.

11:58:51 >>JULIA MANDELL:
THANK YOU.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE VACATION ORDINANCE, BRICK STREET AND

DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE RECONFIGURATION OF

THE EXISTING STREET GRID FOR MORE URBAN DESIGN THAT WOULD

ALLOW THE CONTINUING REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA.

SOME OF THE GENERAL TERMS IN THE AGREEMENT THAT ENSURE THIS

GOING FORWARD IS THE WORK NEEDS TO BE COMMENCED WITHIN 90

DAYS AND ROADWAY DEMOLITION, AND JUST TO NOT PROCEED

FORWARD, SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE THE WORK WITHIN 36 MONTHS OF

THE COMMENCEMENT, THE STREET REVISIONS, AND ALL OF THE

ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE MUST BE COMPLETE BEFORE ANY

CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES CAN BE GRANTED.

THAT THE POINT THIS REALLY IS JUST TO ENSURE THAT THE

INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE FOR ANY FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT, BUT

NO PROCEEDING FORWARD WITH ANY VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT CAN

OCCUR UNTIL THE WORK IS DONE.

I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THIS




PROJECT, AND I AM VERY EXCITED JUST TO CONTINUE TO SEE THIS

MOVE FORWARD, AND IF I CAN ADD BEFORE I FINISH MY

PRESENTATION, CONGRATULATIONS TO MR. CITRO, MR. MANISCALCO,

ON YOUR ROLES.

IT'S ALWAYS VERY EXCITING THIS TIME OF YEAR TO SEE HOW

THINGS ARE GOING TO PROCEED FORWARD OVER THE NEXT YEAR.

12:00:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MANDELL?

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE REPRESENTATIVE?

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

12:00:25 >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

LEGAL CUT ME OFF IF I CAN'T ASK THIS QUESTION.

BUT I REMEMBER A PINNACLE PROJECT A LONG TIME AGO, ON WHAT

WAS PINNACLE PROPERTIES, IS IT TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES?

12:00:43 >> PINNACLE CHANNELSIDE IS AN LLC, A SUBSIDIARY OF STRATEGIC

PROPERTY PARTIES.

LLC.

I AM NOT SURE IF IT'S THE SAME ONE YOU ARE REFERRING TO.

12:00:53 >>BILL CARLSON:
DIFFERENT COMPANIES?

12:00:55 >> JIM SHIMBERG.

I JUST WANT -- A CLARIFICATION IS THE NEXT PHASE WHICH

DARREN REFERENCED IS WHAT USED TO BE ARNELL'S PROPERTY AND

WE OWN THAT PROPERTY AS WELL AND THEY WILL BE VACATING THAT

PROPERTY BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, SO THAT WILL BE THE NEXT

PHASE, BUT PINNACLE IS A SUBSIDIARY.

12:01:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?




12:01:17 >> JUST ONE MORE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC THAT THE SECOND PUBLIC

HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR MAY 19th AT 10:30.

12:01:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO SPEAK

TO THIS?

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?

MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED?

THE SUBSTITUTE, YES, SIR?

COUNCILMAN GUDES, CAN YOU READ THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE?

52.

VAC 21-15, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING

CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA

VACATING CLOSING DISCONTINUING ABANDONING CERTAIN

RIGHTS-OF-WAY LOCATED SOUTH OF WHITING STREET NORTH OF

CUMBERLAND AVENUE EAST OF NEBRASKA AVENUE AND WEST OF

MERIDIAN AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF FINLEY AND CESAR

SUBDIVISION A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH

COUNTY FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF

SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS

MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT

AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS,

INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR

SEVERABILITY, APPROVING A REQUEST TO IMPACT CERTAIN




VITRIFIED BRICK STREETS LYING WITHIN SAID RIGHTS-OF-WAY

SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN

PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

12:02:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

12:02:58 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

12:03:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

12:03:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

12:03:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

12:03:08 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

12:03:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

12:03:09 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK ABSENT.

SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 2nd,

2022 AT 9:30 A.M.

12:03:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCE THE DATE?

12:03:26 >>THE CLERK:
FILE PH 22-74 OH 05, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING

IS TO BE HELD ON MAY 19th, 2022 AT 10:30 A.M. OR SOON

THEREAFTER.

12:03:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND THAT'S JUST A TITLE, THE RESOLUTION

JUST HAS TO BE MOVED FOR THE SECOND READING.

12:03:45 >> THE RESOLUTION WILL BE CONSIDERED AT THE SECOND PUBLIC

HEARING.

12:03:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S FINE.

THANK YOU.




12:03:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN, LUNCH TILL 1:30.

THERE WE GO.

WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 1:30.

[ MEETING IN RECESS ]



13:33:49 >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.

13:33:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.

13:34:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.

13:34:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.

13:34:05 >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

13:34:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 54, FILE DE 1-22-34-C.

13:34:25 >> MOVE TO OPEN.

13:34:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND BY

MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

THANK YOU.

13:34:35 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

WE ARE HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 54, WHICH IS REGARDING A PETITION

FOR REVIEW THAT WAS FILED FOR DE 1-22-34 FOR THE PROPERTY

LOCATED AT 1417 EAST MOHAWK AVENUE.

THIS PETITION WAS FILED BY GREGORY GARY ON BEHALF OF MOHAWK

LLC.

MR. GARY IS REQUESTING FOR ORIGINALLY REQUESTED FOR DESIGN

EXCEPTION TO ALLOW A LARGE PARKING PAD TO REMAIN IN THE

FRONT YARD AND IN FRONT OF A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE WITHOUT AN




ATTACHED CARPORT OR GARAGE.

STAFF DENIED THE REQUEST ON THE BASIS THAT THE APPLICATION

DID NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF CODE SECTION 27-60 AND

27-211.2.1.

CITY COUNCIL WAS PROVIDED COPIES OF CODE SECTION 27-60,

27-211.2.1 SAMPLE MOTIONS AND RULES OF PROCEDURE.

THE STANDARD FOR REVIEW FOR THIS HEARING IS DE NOVO, AND

THAT'S GOVERNED BY CODE SECTION 27-61 SUBSECTION J-3.

IN A DE NOVO HEARING CITY COUNCIL IS ALLOWED TO ACCEPT NEW

EVIDENCE, TAKE TESTIMONY, PUBLIC TESTIMONY, AND MAKE A

DECISION TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE PETITIONER MEETS

THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN CODE SECTION 27-60, AND

27-211.2.1.

STAFF REMOTELY SHOULD BE ANDY MIKULSKI TO PROVIDE AN

OVERVIEW AND THE DECISION BY STAFF.

AFTER HEARING FROM ALL PARTIES, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE THE

FOLLOWING ACTION:

CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM STAFF'S DECISION AND DENY THE

REQUEST FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION, OR STAFF CAN -- OR CITY

COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN STAFF'S DECISION AND GRANT THE REQUEST

FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.

AND WITH THAT I WILL TURN THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION OVER

TO MR. MIKULSKI.

13:36:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN BEFORE MR. MIKULSKI TALKS, I

WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL TO RECEIVE AND FILE ANY EX PARTE




DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE.

13:37:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.

13:37:02 >> SECOND.

13:37:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.

AND IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY VERBAL EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS

RELATED TO THIS CASE PLEASE DISCLOSE THAT AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU.

13:37:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND

BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

YOU ARE MUTED.

13:37:36 >> ANDY MIKULSKI, URBAN DESIGN.

CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME?

13:37:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, THANK YOU.

13:37:45 >> MAY I SHARE THE SCREEN, PLEASE?

13:37:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I'M SORRY, SIR, YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN.

AND IS EVERYBODY THAT'S GOING TO GIVE ANY KIND OF TESTIMONY,

WILL YOU PLEASE BE SWORN IN.

13:37:55 >>THE CLERK:
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN.

(OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

13:38:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MIKULSKI.

PLEASE PROCEED.




13:38:11 >> CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN?

13:38:26 >> JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, BUT THE PowerPoint IS NOT UP.

13:38:29 >> HOW ABOUT NOW?

13:38:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, SIR.

13:38:31 >> CAN YOU SEE FULL SCREEN OR IS THIS PREVIEW MODE?

13:38:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NO, IT'S PREVIEW MODE.

THERE.

13:38:41 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.

ANDY MIKULSKI, URBAN DESIGN.

I WILL GO OVER THE CASE AT THIS TIME.

APPLICANT, THE AGENT IS GREGORY GARY, 1417 EAST MOHAWK, TO

ALLOW A PAVER PARKING PAD WITHIN THE FRONT YARD OF THE

SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE WITHOUT AN ATTACHED CARPORT OR GARAGE.

THIS IS THE CRITERIA OF REVIEW.

THE DETERMINATION, WE FOUND -- SORRY.

URBAN DESIGN STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND IT WHATS

DETERMINED THE PAVER PARKING PAD AND DRIVEWAY IS

INCONSISTENT WITH 27-211.2-1-C FOOTNOTE 3 WHICH IS BELOW IN

BOLD AND THE DRIVEWAY SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED FROM THE ROAD TO

THE FRONT FACADE OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE AND PROVIDING

VEHICLE ACCESS TO AN ATTACHED GARAGE OR CARPORT OF THE

AND THEN I WILL SKIP THE MIDDLE PART.

THE THREE CRITERIA THAT DID NOT SATISFY THE FIRST EXCEPTION,

INTERFERES WITH THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS, NEIGHBORHOOD

ENHANCEMENT RECEIVED A CODE COMPLAINT ABOUT THE WORK BEING




DONE WITHOUT PERMITS WHICH RESULTED IN THE CITATION.

THE EXCEPTION IS NOT THE MINIMAL POSSIBLE.

WITH PARKING IT IS -- CAN BE ACCOMMODATED TO THE SIDE OR THE

REAR OF THE PARCEL.

THERE'S PAVED ALLEY THAT PROVIDES ACCESS, OR APPLICANT COULD

PROVIDE PARKING ON THE SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE, WHICH THERE IS

ROOM FOR THAT.

THE GRANT WOULD CREATE A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE, OTHERS IN

SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ADHERED TO THE CODE AND HAVE NOT DONE WORK

WITHOUT PERMITS.

THEN THE SUBJECT PARCEL.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS SEMINOLE HEIGHTS CI COMMERCIAL

INTENSIVE.

THIS IS THE PICTURE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT OF THE HOUSE

AND THE WORK THAT WAS DONE.

THIS IS ON MOHAWK LOOKING AT THE FRONT.

SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.

AND NOW SOME AERIALS.

THIS IS FROM THE SOUTH, SO -- I'M SORRY, FROM THE NORTH

LOOKING TOWARDS THE SOUTH.

YOU CAN SEE THE PAVED ALLEY IN THE REAR.

AND THERE IT IS IN THE REAR.

THIS IS THE REAR AGAIN.

THE REAR YARD FROM A DIFFERENT VIEW.

AND THEN THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE THESE IN THE RECORD OF




ADJACENT STRUCTURES THAT DO HAVE PARKING IN THE FRONT.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE WERE BUILT BEFORE THE

SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ZONING CODE THAT WAS ENACTED IN 2011.

AND THEN ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION, THIS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.

THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO AVOID IS THE PARKING IN FRONT

OF THE STRUCTURE.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MYSELF?

13:41:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

13:41:45 >>BILL CARLSON:
IS THERE ANY REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE A

GARAGE OR SOME KIND OF OTHER SURFACE IN FRONT?

IT IS PAVERS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE INTERVIEWS OR

NOT.

BUT IF THEY ARE NOT, IS THERE SOME KIND OF EXCEPTION THAT

WILL ALLOW SOME OTHER KIND OF SURFACE THAT'S NOT GRASS IF

THEY DON'T PARK ON IT?

13:42:14 >> WELL, THERE'S AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE REQUIREMENT OF I

BELIEVE IT'S 50%.

SO YOU COULD HAVE IN THE FRONT IF YOU HAVE A PATIO.

WE WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT, IT IS ALLOWED, BUT CLEARLY THIS

WAS APPLIED, THE APPLICATION WAS FOR A PARKING PAD.

WHAT MAKES IT A PARKING PAD ARE THE PAVERS GO TO THE

ROADWAY, SO IF THIS WERE A PATIO, WE WOULD EXPECT IT WOULD

BE SOME KIND OF DELINEATION.




I CAN'T SEE MY MOUSSE CURSOR, BUT SOME SORT OF GRASSED AREA

OR LANDSCAPED AREA THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DRIVE A CAR

THROUGH.

DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

13:43:03 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

13:43:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

OKAY, MR. GARY, YOU HAVE GOT 15 MINUTES.

13:43:11 >> YEAH, I HAVE BEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER THERE FOR 12 YEARS,

AND WE HAVE HAD PREVIOUS TENANTS USING THE PROPERTY, AND

THEY ALWAYS JUST PARKED IN THE FRONT YARD.

I HAVE PHOTOS UP AND DOWN THE WHOLE STREET, HALF THE

NEIGHBORHOOD IS PARKING IN THEIR FRONT YARD.

I'M WEDGED IN BETWEEN TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES, SO THEY ARE

FILLED.

THEY GOT THE WHOLE FRONT ON THAT SIDE AND FRONT OF THIS

SIDE, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THIS.

I CAN SHOW YOU THE PICTURE.

YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF ME.

SO AT NIGHT WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY PARK IN FRONT, THEY ARE

PARKING UP AND DOWN THE STREETS.

THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR HOW THEY ARE PARKING THEIR CARS.

I KNOW IT'S INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL, BUT THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE

DOING, ALL UP AND DOWN THE STREET ON MOHAWK.

AND SOME PEOPLE, I ASKED FOR MAYBE A CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY SO I

COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT THEY SAID I NEED TO HAVE




120 FEET.

I ONLY HAVE LIKE 50 FEET.

SO THESE ARE ALL MOHAWK AVENUE.

THIS IS SURROUNDED WITH TREES.

SO I WANT TO SHOW YOU A PICTURE WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKED

LIKE BEFORE.

I HAVE SPENT AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO TRY TO IMPROVE

IT.

IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE NICEST PROPERTIES ON THE STREET

NOW.

ALL THE NEIGHBORS, I MEAN, THEY ALL LOVE IT.

THEY LOVE THE PROPERTY.

THEY ALL MAKE GREAT COMMENTS ABOUT HOW NICE IT LOOKS.

YOU SEE, THIS IS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE HOW CLEARLY,

BUT THE YARD WAS ALWAYS LIKE MUDDY AND THE TREES WERE ALWAYS

FALLING ON IT.

I MEAN, AND EVERYBODY JUST PULLED INTO THE YARD.

THEY DROVE UP THE CURB AND PARKED ON IT.

IN THE BACK, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, BECAUSE

THE PROPERTY IS COMMERCIAL INTENSE, I HAVE A FENCE ACROSS

THE BACK HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A FENCE LYING ACROSS THE BACK.

AND THEN IN THE BACK, I HAD STORAGE, AND I USED THE BARK OF

THE PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.

YOU KNOW, FOR WAREHOUSING, STORAGE, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE




THAT.

AND THE FRONT, I USED IT TO SUPPORT THE INCOME.

I HIRED A PAVING COMPANY, AND THEY CAME OUT, AND THEY GRADED

THE PROPERTY, THEY SLOPED EVERYTHING PROPERLY, THEY DID

EVERYTHING, AND THE PAVERS ARE PERVIOUS. IN BETWEEN EACH

PAVER THERE'S A SLOT FOR WATER TO GO DOWN TO RETAIN.

I WENT AHEAD AND ASKED ALL THE NEIGHBORS.

I MEAN, I HAVE, FROM EVERYBODY ON THE STREET, EVERYBODY ON

THE STREET SAID THEY LIKE IT, IT RELIEVES THE PARKING.

I MEAN, EVERY NEIGHBOR AROUND ME, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX SAID

IT'S GREAT, WHAT AN IMPROVEMENT.

I MEAN, IT'S A SHOWCASE PROPERTY ON THE STREET.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST A SMALL BUNGALOW.

AND THE ONLY PERSON THAT CALLED AND COMPLAINED WAS A

DISGRUNTLED WORKER.

I HAD SOME WORKER DOING SOME CLEANING UP, AND I HANDED HIM A

COMPANY CHECK TO PAY HIM, AND HE SAID, I WANT CASH.

I SAID LOOK, WE HAVE TO HAVE A RECORD.

WE GIVE YOU A CHECK.

SO HE SAYS IF I DON'T GIVE CASH I AM GOING TO COMPLAIN, I AM

GOING TO GO TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.

I SAID, YOU KNOW, I SAID OKAY, WHATEVER.

SO TWO DAYS WENT BY AND I MADE ARRANGEMENTS TO GIVE SOME GUY

TO GIVE HIM HIS CASH AND HE ALREADY CALLED A COMPLAINT, AND

CALLED THIS COMPLAINT.




SO, I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY, IT'S BEEN NICE AND

CLEAN.

IT'S EASY TO BLOW THE LEAVES OFF.

THE TENANTS THAT LIVE THERE COULD JUST PULL IN AND PARK,

INSTEAD OF FIGHTING ON THE STREET.

I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS

WHAT EVERYONE'S PROPERTY IS LOOKING LIKE ON THAT STREET.

WITH CARS PARKED ON IT, I MEAN, THIS IS ACCEPTABLE, THIS IS

ACCEPTABLE, HAVE ALL THIS STUFF UP IN THEIR PARKING? SO I

WENT DRIVING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THIS WEEK, AND I TOOK

A LOOK AT ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THAT HAVE PARKING.

I LOOKED AT THIS GUY.

THIS HAS GOT A NICE BEAUTIFUL PARKING PAD.

IT'S VERY MUCH LIKE WHAT I HAVE.

THIS IS ONE.

HERE IS ANOTHER ONE.

THIS IS A WHOLE PARKING PAD IN FRONTS OF THEIR HOUSE.

THEN THIS IS ANOTHER ONE.

I MEAN, I JUST WENT DRIVING AROUND LOOKING AT WHO HAS GOT

THE SAME SITUATION.

SO I KNOW WITH ALL THE CITY CODES, AND BECAUSE THEY CHANGE

THE CODES, AND THEY DO ALL THIS THING BACK AND FORTH, IT

PUTS ALL THESE RESTRICTIONS.

YES, IT WOULD BE PERFECT IF THE PROPERTY WASN'T WEDGED IN

BETWEEN TWO APARTMENT BUILDINGS, AND THE WAY IT'S BUILT, I'M




A COMMERCIAL BUILDING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO COMMERCIAL

COMPLEXES.

SO I DON'T SEE HOW BY ME PAVING THAT FRONT AREA WITH

PERVIOUS PAVING, THOSE BETWEEN ALL THE PAVERS, THAT'S WHERE

WATER GOES IN.

SO WITH ALL THAT, IN FACT, I JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND, AND

STILL THIS WAS THE DRIVEWAY COMING THROUGH HERE GOES THE

DRIVEWAY TO THE BACK.

AND THERE IS GREEN SPACE.

I LEFT GREEN SPACE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE THING.

WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY?

I GUESS I'M ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO BEAR WITH ME, AND TRY TO

LET ME GET THROUGH WITH THIS, BECAUSE WE DID SPEND OVER

$15,000 ON THIS PROPERTY TO TRY TO CLEAN IT UP.

I PAINTED THE BUILDING.

I FIXED EVERYTHING.

AND I WILL LET MY WIFE SPEAK.

SHE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

13:49:37 >> MY NAME IS LYNN, GARY'S WIFE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO STAND

UP FOR HIM, BECAUSE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE

REALLY WORKED VERY HARD TO MAKE THIS PROPERTY LOOK NICE AND

CLEAN, AND YES, I ACTUALLY, LIKE TWO YEARS AGO, BEFORE HE

PAVED THE FRONT YARD, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, ALL MUDDY AND YOU

KNOW THE FLORIDA WEATHER HE R ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER WHEN

THE STORM COMES AND EVERY TIME WE PULLED OVER, A TENANT OR




WHATEVER DO ANYTHING, WE JUST JUMPED OFF THE CURB AND INTO

THE MUD AND MAKING A ROYAL MESS.

AND THEN WE THOUGHT, OKAY, WE CAN'T MAKE IT, YOU KNOW,

BETTER IT WAS NOT OUR INTENTION TO BREAK THE LAW OR

WHATEVER, OUR INTENTION IS JUST VERY SIMPLE, AND, YOU KNOW,

JUST WANT TO MAKE OUR PROPERTY NICE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

AND, YOU KNOW, HE WORKED SO HARD TO PUT THE PAVER IN AND

MAKE SURE THIS PAVER HAS THE SPACE IN BETWEEN AND LET THE

WATER GO IN.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE DO APPRECIATE AND RESPECT THE

CITY'S RULE, WHATEVER.

IT WAS NOT OUR INTENTION TO BREAK THE RULE.

BUT AFTER WE SPEND THIS MONEY TO WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAN AND

NICE, AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR FORGIVENESS, YOU

KNOW, TO LET US GO AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

13:51:35 >> GREGORY GARY:
I GUESS I AM MISUNDERSTANDING COMMERCIAL

AND INTENSIVE C-1.

WHEN WE GOT THE PROPERTY IT'S ALL COMMERCIAL.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT RULES FIT WITH COMMERCIAL.

AND I GUESS EITHER WAY, I MEAN, I WENT AHEAD.

I GOT MOST ALL THE NEIGHBORS, LIKE YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL THE

ADDRESSES ALL SURROUNDING MY HOUSE.

ALL OF THEM, YOU KNOW, SAY THAT IT'S MUCH BETTER THAN

PARKING ON THE GRASS.

I MEAN, IF TAKING UP THE PAVERS AND GRASS DOESN'T GROW




THERE, BECAUSE OF THE TREES ALL COVER IT, IT JUST DOESN'T

GROW.

AND THEN THEY START DRIVING ON IT.

I MEAN, IF I PICK UP THE PAVERS IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AN

EYESORE THERE AGAIN.

SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE -- WHERE ARE THESE PICTURES?

I MEAN, THIS IS JUST RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM ME.

YOU LET THAT EXIST, AND THAT'S -- THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PAVERS

THERE, BUT STILL.

AND THEN THE CARS ARE ALL PARKED LIKE PARKED ON THIS STREET.

SO I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

THE PROBLEM IS I HAD THE THING PAVED FOR ABOUT A YEAR UNTIL

THIS GUY COMPLAINED.

SO THERE WAS NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE PROPERTY.

I KNOW CODE ENFORCEMENT DOESN'T COME OUT UNLESS SOMEBODY

COMPLAINS.

BUT IT WASN'T A NEIGHBOR.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HELP ME.

I MEAN, I AM PRETTY MUCH -- I CIRCLED THE WHOLE

NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU WENT THROUGH.

I ACCEPTABILITY EVERYBODY THE MONEY.

I SENT IN THE MONEY FOR THE PERMIT.

I SENT IN FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.

WE DO HAVE BEEN A LARGE PERVIOUS AREA IN THE BACK.




WE SHOWED YOU ON THE SITE PLAN THAT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY

IS ALL PERVIOUS, ALL BACK THERE.

SO THAT'S 50% OF THE LOT HAS GRASS.

SO, I MEAN, THERE'S PLENTY OF AREA FOR RAIN TO GO FOR THAT

PROPERTY.

13:53:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DOES THAT FINISH YOUR PRESENTATION?

13:53:41 >> I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST HOPE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND MY POINT OF VIEW.

IF YOU JUST LOOK AT LIKE I SAID, I'M WEDGED IN BETWEEN TWO

APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

THEY ARE PARK ALL IN FRONT OF THE PLACE, AND IT'S -- WELL,

YOU SEE IT.

WEDGED IN BETWEEN THE APARTMENTS.

SO WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

13:54:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

13:54:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I JUST HAD A QUESTION.

YOU HAD MENTIONED THE PAVERS AND THE CRACKS IN BETWEEN

ENOUGH FOR THE WATER.

BUT DURING A VERY HARD RAINFALL DOES WATER EVER POOL, DOES

IT EVER FLOOD?

13:54:17 >> NEVER.

NO, NEVER.

BEFORE IT WAS JUST ONE BIG MUD PUDDLE.

BUT NOW EVERYTHING FLOWS PERFECTLY DOWN THE STREET IN THE

PAVERS THROUGH THE YARD AND THAT'S IT.




IT DOESN'T FLOOD AT ALL.

13:54:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND YOUR NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET

FROM THAT PHOTO YOU SHOWED OF THE FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, THEY

HAVE THE SAME KIND OF PAVERS OR SIMILAR TYPE PAVERS FOR THE

DRIVEWAY?

13:54:40 >> THE NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET HAS THAT CIRCULAR

DRIVEWAY.

THEY HAVE A CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY.

AND THEN THE OTHER NEIGHBORS ARE JUST PULLING UP ON THE

YARDS.

13:54:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SIGNATURES OF ALL

THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS?

13:54:53 >> YES, I DO.

13:54:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:54:56 >> AND I CAN GET MORE.

I DIDN'T WANT TO -- EVERYBODY I STOPPED AT EVERYBODY'S

HOUSE, I WENT BACK AND FORTH AFTER WORK, IN THE MORNING, I

TOOK PICTURES UP AND DOWN THE STREET, I HAVE ABOUT 60

PICTURES HERE ON MY PHONE, I CAN SHOW YOU DIFFERENT TIMES OF

THE DAY WHERE ALL THE CARS ARE PARKED.

13:55:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY, THANK YOU.

13:55:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.

I AM JUST GOING BY WHAT THE PETITIONER SAID.

ON GRAY STREET, ONE BLOCK WEST OF DALE MABRY, AND THEY HAVE

DONE THE SAME THING, AND THE CITY, HAD THEM TAKE ALL THE




PAVERS ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OUT.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT I KNOW, WHAT I HAVE SEEN.

AND THE BUILDINGS THAT YOU IDENTIFIED ON BOTH SIDES THAT ARE

COMMERCIAL, THEY WERE BUILT OR CONSTRUCTED OR WHATEVER YOU

WANT TO CALL IT PRIOR TO 2011 WHEN THE NEW LAW CAME INTO

EFFECT.

THAT'S WHAT I READ INTO THE RECORD.

AND YOU SAID YOU HAD A PERMIT FOR THIS?

13:56:00 >> I SAID, NO I WENT TRYING TO PERMIT IT, AFTER THE FACT

PERMIT IT.

AND THEN THEY WOULDN'T ACCEPT IT.

SO THEN I WENT TO THE DESIGN EXCEPTION, WHICH I ACQUIRED FOR

THAT PERMIT.

THEN I WENT THROUGH I GUESS ANOTHER PROCESS WHERE THEY

FAILED ME, AND THEN I CAME BACK, AND NOW I APPEALED IT

HOPING THAT PEOPLE HEAR WOULD JUST KIND OF FEEL MY SIDE.

AND I KNOW THE CITY PASSES THESE RULES, AND WE ARE GOING TO

BLANKET, THIS IS TOUCHDOWN OR WHATEVER, EVERYTHING IS GOING

TO BE LIKE THIS.

BUT SOMETIMES IT'S NOT ALWAYS PRACTICAL FOR EVERY DWELLING.

AND THEN WE GET A VARIANCE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME LEEWAY TO WORK WITH YOU.

AND I AM KIND OF ASKING THE SAME THING HERE.

13:56:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND THEN.

13:56:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AND THEN YOU SEWED YOU HAVE A RENTAL?




13:56:52 >> YES, A RENTAL PROPERTY.

13:56:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU HAVE A RENTAL CERTIFICATE?

13:56:56 >> I THINK WE DO.

13:56:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.

13:57:03 >> THE TENANT WAS THERE FOR EIGHT YEARS, SINCE 2000.

I GOT THE BUILDING IN 2011 ACTUALLY WHEN THEY CHANGED THE

CODE THING.

13:57:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IN A RENTAL

PROPERTY VERSUS A PROPERTY, YOUR TAXES ARE DIFFERENT.

THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO TELL YOU.

I AM NOT TRYING TO IN ANY WAY --

13:57:25 >> NO, NO, NO, WE WANT TO COMPLY WITH THAT.

13:57:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT'S IT.

13:57:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

ANYTHING ELSE THAT STAFF WOULD LIKE TO ADD?

13:57:37 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I JUST WANT TO BE JUST DISTINGUISH CITY COUNCIL, SOME OF THE

PHOTOGRAPHS THAT THE PETITIONER DID EXHIBIT TO SHOW TO CITY

COUNCIL, SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES DID HAVE GARAGES, AND SOME

OF THOSE HAD CARPORTS, WHICH IS THE REQUIREMENT NEEDED IN

ORDER FOR PAVERS TO BE ON THE PROPERTY.

I DID WANT TO DISTINGUISH THAT.

I DID WANT TO DISTINGUISH THAT.

IF I MAY JUST FINISH MY STATEMENT.

I JUST WANTED TO DISTINGUISH THE CRITERIA IN THE CODE, AND




STAFF AGAIN CAN EXPLAIN THE CODE PROVISION THAT THIS

APPLICATION DOES NOT MEET AND WHY STAFF DENIED IT AND

DISTINGUISH IT FROM THE OTHER PHOTOGRAPHS THAT THE

PETITIONER HAS PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL.

AND I AM SURE STAFF, MR. MIKULSKI, CAN DISTINGUISH THAT

CRITERIA OF THE CODE AND WHY THIS APPLICATION WAS DENIED.

13:58:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. MIKULSKI, ARE YOU THERE?

YOU WILL HAVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL.

13:58:56 >> SORRY.

13:58:58 >> I'M HERE, AND CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?

13:59:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

13:59:04 >> AND YOU CAN SEE THE PowerPoint, ZONING DETERMINATION?

13:59:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, SIR.

13:59:12 >> THIS IS THE CONCEPTION THAT CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE WAS

JUST REFERRING TO.

NO DRIVEWAY SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED FROM THE CODE TO THE FACADE

OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE UNLESS PROVIDING VEHICULAR ACCESS

TO AN ATTACHED GARAGE OR CARPORT.

THE INTENT OF THIS CODE, IF YOU DID HAVE A DRIVEWAY THAT IT

WOULD ACTUALLY TERMINATE IN A CARPORT OR A GARAGE.

SO IF THERE IS A GARAGE OR CARPORT HERE, TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY

OR WHATEVER SIDE THAT WE ARE ON.

BUT THE INTENT IS, THIS CODE, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE PARKING

IN FRONT OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE.

IT'S TRYING TO INCREASE THE WALKABILITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD,




AND HAVING VEHICLES IN THE FRONT IS KIND OF DETRIMENTAL TO

THAT FEELING OF PEDESTRIAN COMFORT.

I KNOW THERE'S EXISTING STRUCTURES HERE THAT HAVE PARKING

ISSUES, BUT THAT'S WHY THIS CODE PROVISION WAS ENACTED.

IT'S TO STOP DOING THIS.

AND IF IT'S EXISTING, YOU KNOW, WE DO GRANT LEEWAY TO

EXISTING STRUCTURES.

YOU KNOW, IF NOT DOING WORK OR MAJOR RENOVATIONS WE ARE NOT

GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE COME BACK AND RETROFIT THEIR HOUSE TO

MEET THE NEW CODE.

BUT IF THEY ARE ABOVE THE 50% THRESHOLD WE DO REQUIRE THEM

TO COMPLY WITH THE CODE.

14:00:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE

COMMENTS?

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?

MR. GARY, YOU HAVE GOT TIME FOR REBUTTAL.

14:00:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. GARY, DID YOU WANT TO PUT THOSE

PHOTOGRAPHS INTO THE RECORD?

14:00:56 >> YES, I WILL PUT THE PHOTOGRAPHS INTO THE RECORD.

I GUESS WE DO HAVE THE GARAGE IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY

THERE, SO -- THE GARAGE.

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND, IF I CAN MAKE A CARPORT, BUT, I

MEAN, THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THAT THE WORK IS DONE, I MEAN,

I HAVE TRIED EVERY WAY TO MAKE IT LEGAL AND TO ACTUALLY TAKE




IT APART AND RUIN THE PROPERTY JUST SEEMS UNFAIR BECAUSE OF

THIS SITUATION.

UM RIGHT BETWEEN THE TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES, AND THEY ARE

MONOPOLIZING THE PARKING.

AND THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THE TENANTS CAN JUST COME IN AND

PARK, THREE CARS IN THE FRONT, THAT'S IT OF THE

AND YOU CAN'T PARK IN THE DRIVEWAY BECAUSE THEN IT BLOCKS

ANY PARKING TO THE BACK TO THE STORAGE.

SO, I MEAN, WE ARE NOT HURTING ANYBODY.

I MEAN, WE ARE NOT UPSETTING THE WHOLE RULE.

IF WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF SWANN AVENUE -- NOT SWANN, LET'S

SAY YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF, I DON'T KNOW, PARKLAND

ESTATES, OR BEACH PARK, AND I DID SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YES,

THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO FIT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT THIS IS A COMMERCIAL STREET.

IT'S A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

IT'S ON BACK OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.

I MEAN, THIS THING ABOUT WALKING PEDESTRIANS, WALKING DOWN

THE STREET, THEY ARE WALKING UP AND DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE

STREET.

THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS ON THAT STREET.

IF THEY WANT -- THEY DON'T PUT ANY SIDEWALK THERE.

SO, I MEAN, THIS IS NOT A PLANNED DEVELOPED NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN HERE SINCE THE 1920s.

YOU HAVE 50-FOOT FRONT -- THERE'S NO ROOM.




14:02:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DOES THAT END YOUR REBUTTAL?

14:02:48 >> WELL, THE REBUTTAL IS I JUST WISH YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND

AND GRANT ME THIS SIMPLE OKAY.

IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

AND I'M HAPPY AND NOBODY CARES.

NOBODY IS GOING TO GO THROUGH FIGHTING THIS WHOLE ISSUE.

I RIGHT?

14:03:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THAT THE END OF YOUR REBUTTAL?

14:03:07 >> AND I GOT ALL MY NEIGHBORS TO SIGN.

THEY LIKE IT.

OKAY, THAT'S IT.

THAT'S THE END.

GIVE ME THE VERDICT.

14:03:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.

14:03:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

14:03:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO

OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL, I MOVE TO

OVERTURN STAFF'S DENIAL DESIGN EXCEPTION APPLICATION

D-1-22-34 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1417 EAST MOHAWK

AVENUE BECAUSE THE GENERAL STANDARDS SHOULD BE WAIVED AS SET




FORTH IN SECTION 27-60 AND 27-211.2.1-C.

THE GENTLEMAN HAS ALREADY STATED HIS CASE, AND HAS SUPPORT

FROM I THINK QUITE A FEW NEIGHBORS SURROUNDING.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL NEXT DOOR.

I SEE WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKED LIKE BEFORE, AND THAT'S WHY I

ASKED YOU IF THERE'S ANY FLOODING.

YOU IMPROVED THE PROPERTY IN MY OPINION.

FOR THAT REASON AND THOSE REASONS, I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE

DENIAL.

14:04:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

14:04:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I CAN APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCILMEMBER

MANISCALCO SAID AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

HOWEVER, JUST BY THE EXPERIENCE OF KNOWING WHAT HAPPENED ON

GRAY STREET AND OTHERS, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.

14:04:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

ROLL CALL VOTE.

14:04:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.

14:04:56 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

14:04:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

14:05:00 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

14:05:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

14:05:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

14:05:04 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO AND




HURTAK BEING ABSENT.

14:05:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:05:09 >> SO THAT'S IT?

14:05:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
CONGRATULATIONS.

14:05:15 >> OH, THANK YOU, PEOPLE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO YOU STILL WANT THESE FOR THE RECORD?

14:05:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

14:05:25 >> THANK YOU.

14:05:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM 55, CANNOT BE

HEARD.

14:05:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN

MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO REMOVE ITEM

NUMBER 55 WHICH IS FILE SU-1-22-19-C.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

14:06:01 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

14:06:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

14:06:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

14:06:12 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

14:06:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

14:06:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

14:06:15 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

14:06:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT WILL BE AGENDA 58, PW-22-74238.




14:06:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.

14:06:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.

ITEM 58.

14:06:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

14:06:45 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

14:06:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

14:06:51 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

14:06:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

14:06:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

14:06:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

14:06:55 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

14:06:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ITEM NUMBER 59.

14:06:59 >> SO MOVED.

14:07:01 >> SECOND.

14:07:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
E-2022-16.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

14:07:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

14:07:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

14:07:13 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

14:07:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.




14:07:15 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

14:07:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

14:07:17 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

14:07:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NUMBER 63, CM 22-73829.

14:07:30 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY IN CONNECTION WITH

ITEM 63.

WE PREPARED A MEMO, THE WAY THE NAMING POLICY FOR STREET

RENAMING WORKS IT'S HONORARY, ANYWAY, IS THAT REAL ESTATE IS

SUPPOSED TO BE GATHERING INFORMATION ABOUT THE PERSON, AND

THEN PROCESSING A RECOMMENDATION.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE MATTER IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

14:08:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

14:08:03 >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO SAY IN THE BACK OF THE TERMS

IT SAYS EXECUTIVE ORDER BY THE MAYOR WHICH SUMMARIZES THE

CONCLUSIONS OF HER TASK FORCE, BUT IN THE WHEREAS CLAUSE, IT

SAYS WHEREAS THE MAYOR BY CHARTER HAS THE RIGHT TO OVERSEE

FACILITIES OF THE CITY AND NAMING.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I STRONGLY OBJECT TO THAT, AND IT'S

SOMETHING MAYBE WE CAN CLEAN UP IN THE CHARTER.

BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CHARTER SPECIFICALLY THAT GIVES

THE MAYOR THE RIGHT TO NAME THE NAMED BUILDINGS SO I WOULD

SUGGEST THE MAYOR RESCIND THE EXECUTIVE ORDER AND REPLACE IT

WITH ONE THAT DOESN'T STATE SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE IS AN

INACCURATE INTERPRETATION OF THE CHARTER.




14:08:47 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I UNDERSTAND.

IF WE REVIEWED THE CHARTER AND THE EXECUTIVE ORDER AND SHE

HAS CONTROL OVER ALL FACILITIES SO INHERENT IN THAT IS THE

NAMING AND THAT'S --

14:09:01 >>BILL CARLSON:
I UNDERSTAND.

IT WILL BE PRESENTED TO ALL OF US AND LOOK AT IT.

THANK YOU.

14:09:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

14:09:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[OFF MICROPHONE] THEY HAVE THE ABILITY

TO DO THAT.

THEN IT'S APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.

14:09:20 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THINGS GET NAMED IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

STREETS ARE TYPICALLY DONE BY PLAT.

SO THE PLATS COME BEFORE YOU FOR BEING NAMED.

ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES ESPECIALLY WITH STREET RENAMING IS

THAT OFFICIALLY RENAMING STREETS IS BECOMING A REAL PROBLEM

FROM A DELIVERY OF SERVICES, 911, SO IF YOU START RENAMING

STREETS, THEN YOU ARE CAUSING EVERYBODY ALL THE RESIDENTS

THAT LIVE ON THAT STREET TO CHANGE THEIR ADDRESS, THEN YOU

HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT AND U.S.

MAIL SERVICE AND EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS THAT THE STREET NAME IS

DIFFERENT.

SO THAT CREATES A LOT OF CONFUSION.

SO WE HAVE BEEN ASKED BY THE 911 SERVICES REALLY TO AVOID

OFFICIAL STREET RENAMINGS, BUT STREET NAMES TYPICALLY COME




TO YOU BY WAY OF THE SUBDIVISION PLAT.

SO THE HONORARY NAMING IS WHAT THIS IS.

14:10:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DEMAND GUDES.

14:10:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, AND A COUPLE OF

PASTORS THAT PASSED AWAY, AND THAT SERVED THAT SCHOOL AND

EVERYBODY KNOWS ST. PETER CLEAVER.

AND THAT'S WHAT I AM ASKING NOW, THE STAFF GO OUT AND GET

THAT DONE, BRING IT BACK.

14:10:46 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
AND HAS BEEN DIRECTED TO DO THAT.

14:10:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS YVONNE FORT ANY RELATION?

THAT'S HIS WIFE?

VERY WELL KNOWN INDIVIDUAL.

AND WE KNOW THE STORY.

14:10:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

14:11:06 >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS IS MY SECOND BITE AT THIS.

WE HAVE SEEN THINGS SLIPPED IN BY THE LAST ADMINISTRATION

THAT TOOK AWAY THE POWERS AND RIGHTS OF CITY COUNCIL AND

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION OF EXCERPTING, I

THINK, INACCURATELY EXERTING AUTHORITY OVER THIS.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL OF IT AND WE ARE OBVIOUSLY

GOING TO NEED TO IMPACT THE CHARTER.

THE WORK OF THE TASK FORCE WAS IT APPEARED TO BE GOOD, AND

THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE GOOD, BUT SAYING THAT CITY COUNCIL

HAS NO EVEN APPROVAL AUTHORITY, WE -- BY THE WAY THAT

WHEREAS JUST IN THREE OR FOUR WORDS IN THE WHEREAS CLAUSE WE




HAVE NO APPROVAL EVEN OF THESE CHANGES.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S AN OVERREACH.

WHETHER IT WAS INTENTIONAL TO TRY TO TAKE AWAY RIGHTS OF

CITY COUNCIL OR NOT, I WOULD REMIND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S

OFFICE THAT CITY ATTORNEY THE WAY THE CHARTER IS WRITTEN NOW

HAS THREE CLIENTS, THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, AND THE CITY OF

TAMPA.

AND IF THERE'S A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE INTERPRETATION FOR THE

MAYOR VERSUS THE INTERPRETATION FOR COUNCIL, I WOULD SUGGEST

THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SEEK ADVICE AND INPUT FROM

THE OTHER CLIENT WHICH IS CITY COUNCIL, AND MAYBE EVEN FROM

THE PUBLIC AS TO WHAT THE INTERPRETATION OF THE CHARTER

SHOULD BE, OR THAT WE TRY TO CLARIFY IT, AND WE SHOULD NOT

JUST AUTOMATICALLY TO ONE OR THE OTHER.

IF IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND WHERE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY

WAS TRYING TO TAKE AWAY POWER FROM THE MAYOR, WE WOULD HEAR

FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT BUT

IN THIS CASE IT WAS KIND OF SLID INTO THE WHEREAS CLAUSE.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT EVERYBODY BE CAUTIOUS AND PARTICULARLY

THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHICH BY FLORIDA BAR RULES HAS AN

OBLIGATION TO ADHERE TO ITS RESPONSIBILITIES REGARDING ITS

CLIENT CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU.

14:12:51 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
QUICKLY, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN,

AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO AN ARGUMENT OVER IT.




THE WAY WE SEE THIS, WE REPRESENT THE CITY AS A CORPORATE

ENTITY, SO WE REPRESENT, YES, WE REPRESENT THE CITY AS A

WHOLE AND WE TRY TO INTERPRET THE CHARTER AND THE LAW IN

ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE CORRECT LEGAL

INTERPRETATION.

WE UNDERSTAND TO DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU.

14:13:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MASSEY, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I THINK MR. CARLSON HAS BROUGHT UP A POINT, SO HOPEFULLY YOU

CAN GET BACK A BETTER INTERPRETATION WITH WHAT HE'S ASKING

FOR, GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE DO HAVE A CHARTER

MEETING I THINK YOU CAN LOOK AT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT

INTERPRETATION SOMETIMES, THERE IS A CONFLICT WITH THE

ADMINISTRATION AND THIS COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WE SAY THAT THE

CHARTER SAYS AND CITY ATTORNEY WILL BE THE CATCH-ALL TO BE

THAT, BUT SOMETIMES IT WOULD STILL BE BUTTING OF HEADS.

SO I AM HOPING WHEN WE DO MEET AND LOOK AT HOW WE GO FORWARD

WHEN THAT DOES HAPPEN, HOW IT CAN BE INTERPRETED WHATEVER

VERBIAGE WE HAVE AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE.

WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR THAT.

BUT THANK YOU.

14:14:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY:


14:14:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.

IF THE CITY COUNCIL WERE TO EXPRESS A REQUEST OF THE MAYOR

IN TERMS OF THE EXECUTIVE ORDER TO THE POINT THAT COUNCILMAN

MIRANDA SUGGESTED, IT WOULD SHOW PERHAPS ON THE CONSENT




DOCKET, IS THAT A POSSIBLE THING TO REQUEST AND LOOK INTO

IT, IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

I AM NOT SAYING THAT IS.

BUT I AM JUST ASKING.

14:14:35 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
AGAIN, THE WAY THIS WAS SET UP WAS -- A

LOT OF THESE REQUESTS COME IN NOT ONLY FROM COUNCIL BUT FROM

INDIVIDUALS, SO THERE IS SOME BASELINE RULES THAT EVERYONE

HAS TO ABIDE WITH.

THERE'S A PROCESS, AND THE WAY THESE REQUESTS WERE BEING

DONE, IT WAS NOT, IT WAS AD HOC HERE, AD HOC THERE,

DIFFERENT RULES APPLIED TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE, SO THIS WAS AN

EFFORT TO COME UP WITH A RULE, SO THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE

OFFICER OF THE CITY WHO HAS CONTROL OVER THE NAMING OF A

FACILITY, GENERALLY, THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH A PROCESS,

AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS SET UP THE WAY IT WAS SET UP.

AND CAN WE ENTERTAIN POSSIBLE CHANGES?

I AM NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, BUT THAT'S THE

RATIONAL BEHIND THE EXECUTIVE ORDER.

14:15:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY.

14:15:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOT, AN ATTORNEY MYSELF, AND NOT

UNDERSTANDING EVERYTHING ATTORNEYS SAY SOMETIMES, WHAT YOU

ARE TRYING TO SAY IS THE CITY HAS ABOUT 2,000 BLOCKS OR

STREETS AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS A SIGN COMING UP TOMORROW, NO,

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

THAT'S WHAT HE'S TRYING TO SAY, I GUESS.




14:15:50 >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THAT'S WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY.

14:15:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY.

MR. SHELBY.

AGENDA ITEM 64.

14:16:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.

MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

COUNCIL, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO COUNCIL BECAUSE I WAS

PREPARED TO DO A VERBAL REPORT, BUT I BELIEVE AFTER TALKING

WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ON SHORT NOTICE THAT THAT'S

INAPPROPRIATE, AND IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO COME BACK

AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SUBMITTING A WRITTEN

MEMORANDUM AND HAVE IT GONE BY THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ADDRESS

SOME ISSUES THAT SHE AND I DISCUSSED FRANKLY OVER LUNCH,

UNFORTUNATELY.

AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO ASK THE COUNCIL'S INDULGENCE TO BE ABLE

TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING WRITTEN

IN ADVANCE SO YOU CAN HAVE IT AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN HAVE

IT.

14:16:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WHAT DATE ARE YOU ASKING FOR?

14:16:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WAS LOOKING AT THE 19th BUT THEN I

JUST WANT TO BE READY FOR THE CHARTER WORKSHOP ON THE

23rd.

SO IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, THE 19th OR THE 26th IF

COUNCIL WOULD DO SO.




14:17:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION THAT MR. SHELBY RETURN WITH A

WRITTEN REPORT UNDER STAFF REPORTS MAY 19th, 2022.

14:17:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

14:17:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED

BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ANY DISCUSSION?

14:17:24 >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST QUICKLY ALSO, BY THE WAY, MY OBJECTION

TO THE LAST THING WAS NOT THE ADVICE FROM THE COMMITTEE.

THE ADVICE FROM THE COMMITTEE WAS FINE.

IT WAS THE THREE WORDS THAT YOU PURPOSE CONTROL BY THE

MAYOR'S OFFICE OVER NAMING OF BUILDINGS. IN THIS CASE, IT

APPEARS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS TRYING TO

SUPERSEDE THE POWERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, AND WE

CERTAINLY WOULD NOT TRY TO DOUGH THAT IN THE OTHER

DIRECTION.

BUT CITY COUNCIL HAS EVERY RIGHT TO ASK ITS ATTORNEY TO

DEVELOP ORDINANCES OR REPORTS.

IN FACT, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS INSISTED ON THAT

MANY TIMES LATELY AND TRIED TO ABSOLVE THEMSELVES OF ANY

KIND OF WORK WITH CITY COUNCIL EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE

OBLIGATED TO BY THE CHARTER.

SO I WOULD REMIND CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AGAIN THAT ONE OF

THE CLIENTS BY CHARTER UNLESS THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT, ONE OF

THEIR CLIENTS IS CITY COUNCIL AND THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION BY

FLORIDA BAR RECALLS TO WORK IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THEIR




CLIENT.

THEY DON'T REPRESENT US INDIVIDUALLY, BUT AS A BODY THEY DO.

AND THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO REPRESENT US AND TO WORK WITH

OUR ATTORNEY WHO IS SET UP BY CHARTER AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

14:18:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TO THAT POINT, THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE

ISSUES THAT IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY THAT I HAD NOT DONE THAT

IN ADVANCE OF TODAY'S MEETING.

SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

SO I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.

14:18:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:18:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK THE MOTION WAS FOR YOU TO COME

BACK TO GIVE A PRESENTATION IN REFERENCE TO THAT.

VERBALLY OR WRITTEN.

BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.

14:19:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT WAS.

BUT IN TALKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND I DON'T DISAGREE,

THAT THE BETTER PROTOCOL WITH REGARD TO THIS OPINION WOULD

BE IN WRITING.

SO I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING THAT TODAY.

14:19:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE STILL HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.

14:19:23 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

14:19:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

14:19:29 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.




14:19:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

14:19:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

14:19:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

14:19:34 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

14:19:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 65.

FILE CM 22-73220.

14:19:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN, 65 AND 64 COINCIDE.

14:19:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

14:20:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. SHELBY HAS NOT HAD HIS REPORT.

I PREFER BOTH THESE ITEMS BE HEARD AT THE SAME TIME TO

COINCIDE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.

I JUST THINK THAT -- I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT THE

CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY HAS TO SAY AND THE CITY ATTORNEY AT

THE SAME TIME.

14:20:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THAT YOUR MOTION?

14:20:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, SIR.

14:20:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITH REGARD TO THIS MOTION, IT SAID THESE

ARE DIRECTORS AND OFFICERS INSURANCE.

BUT AS I RECALL THAT WASN'T THE PROPER TERM.

WHAT IS THE PROPER TERM?

14:20:39 >> IT'S PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES LIABILITY COVERAGE.

14:20:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES LIABILITY

COVERAGE.




DID YOU WANT TO AMEND THAT MOTION TO REFLECT IT ACCURATELY?

OR IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE REALLY.

DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE, OKAY.

14:21:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I SECOND HIS MOTION.

14:21:03 >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION?

CHIEF OF STAFF LAST TIME SEEMED TO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT

LIABILITY OF THE CITY AND THE COST OF LIABILITY, AND

ALTHOUGH I WOULD RATHER HAVE IT FOR CITY ELECTED OFFICIALS

AND EMPLOYEES, AT THE VERY LEAST WE NEED IT FOR ELECTED

OFFICIALS.

SO WHETHER WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN THE MOTION OR NOT, I THINK

THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

AND LAST TIME I WAS VERY FRUSTRATED, I THINK THE PUBLIC WAS

INCENSED BY THE CONVERSATION.

IT SEEMED LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION HAS NO INTEREST IN

PROTECTING CITY COUNCIL, WE KNOW THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE

HAS NO INTEREST IN FACT WORKED AGAINST CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS,

AND IT'S PRETTY DISGUSTING THAT THAT'S HAPPENING AND WE HAVE

GOT TO SET UP A SITUATION WHERE WE PROTECT ELECTED OFFICIALS

FROM FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS AND THE THREAT OF FRIVOLOUS

LAWSUITS.

OTHERWISE, IF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND RISK MANAGEMENT

TAKE THE POINT OF VIEW THAT WE ARE PROTECTING THE CITY, CITY

ATTORNEY'S OFFICE STILL HAS TWO OTHER CLIENTS THAT THEY HAVE

TO PROTECT. IF THE MAYOR WAS GETTING SUED I'M SURE THEY




WOULD FIND A WAY TO DEFEND THE MAYOR AND PAY FOR LEGAL

ATTORNEY FEES BUT IF IT'S CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THEY SEEM TO

NOT BE INTERESTED IN THAT.

AND BY A LOG ONE SET OF INDIVIDUALS OR ONE CATEGORY OF

INDIVIDUALS TO SUE INDIVIDUAL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT

PROTECTS THEM FROM SOMETHING ELSE THAT DOESN'T BECAUSE

PEOPLE ON OPPOSING SIDES ARE GOING TO SUE AND FILE ALL KINDS

OF COMPLAINTS AND WE ARE GOING TO END UP WITH CHAOS IN THIS

CITY.

IF THEY DO THE HUMANE THING AND PROTECT ELECTED OFFICIALS

AND HOPEFULLY EMPLOYEES, TOO, THEN WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE

A HUGE WAR IN THIS COMMUNITY LIKE WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED, THAT PREVIOUS MAYORS, PREVIOUS CITY

COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE COME OUT AND SAID WHY IS ADMINISTRATION

ATTACKING THE CITY COUNCIL, ALLOWING CITY COUNCIL TO BE

ATTACKED?

I WOULD BEG YOU AND ASK YOU FOR THE SAKE OF OUR COMMUNITY,

NOT JUST US INDIVIDUALLY, TO COME BACK WITH A SOLUTION THAT

PROTECTS US.

IT IS REALLY DISGUSTING AND DESPICABLE THAT THE CITY

ATTORNEY'S OFFICE NOT ONLY DID NOT PROTECT CITY COUNCIL

MEMBERS BUT ACTIVELY WORKED AGAINST THEM, WHICH HONESTLY IS

A VIOLATION OF THE LAW.

SO IT WILL BE UP TO THEM TO DECIDE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO

BUT WE CANNOT LET THAT HAPPEN IN A CITY.




WE HAVE TO BE CIVIL AND WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW.

THANK YOU.

14:23:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?

14:23:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM NOT TAKING ANY SIDES HERE.

I AM JUST SAYING THAT THIS COUNCILMEMBER, I DON'T NEED ANY

SUPPORT AND I DON'T NEED ANY INSURANCE COMPANY TO BACK ME UP

IF I AM GOING TO DO SOMETHING WRONG.

HOWEVER, IF I DID SOMETHING WRONG, AND I COUNT ON THE

LITIGATORS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, THAT WHEN I GO SEE THE

CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEY GIVE ME ADVICE THAT I FOLLOW

THAT ADVICE.

IF I DON'T FOLLOW THAT ADVICE, IF I HAD A PRIVATE ATTORNEY

WOULD TELL ME THERE'S THE DOOR, GET OUT AND LEAVE, I AM NOT

GOING TO REPRESENT YOU.

AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED IF I WAS GOING TO GO TO A PRIVATE

ATTORNEY AND THAT PRIVATE ATTORNEY HE OR SHE TELLS ME HERE

IS WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO, AND I ANSWER NO, THAT ATTORNEY

ISN'T GOING TO TAKE MY CASE.

NEITHER IS THE CITY ATTORNEY.

SO I AM NOT SAYING ANYTHING HAPPENED.

I AM JUST SAYING THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

HOWEVER, I ONCE READ SOMETHING ABOUT A JAMES REID THAT SAID

THAT CHARLIE MIRANDA WAS A MOXIE GUY, A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE

THAT OWNED HOMES.

I DON'T KNOW WHO JAMES REID IS AND I DON'T NEED PROTECTION




FROM ANYBODY FROM THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY TO ANYBODY.

I FIGHT MY OWN BAT ALSO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:24:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
EXCUSE ME, MARTIN SHELBY.

14:24:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WOULD JUST ASK THAT MY OWN PERSONAL NAME

BE TAKEN OFF OF THAT.

IT'S NOT REALLY SPECIFIC TO ME.

IF YOU WANT THE COUNCIL ATTORNEY, THAT'S FINE BUT IT'S

RATHER UNUSUAL TO SEE MY NAME ON THERE.

14:24:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AGREE WITH THAT.

PUT YOU IN A BAD SPOT.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

14:25:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.

IS THAT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THAT MOTION AMENDED JUST TO STRIKE

THAT?

14:25:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:25:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WHAT IS HE ASKING?

14:25:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TO TAKE MY NAME OFF OF THERE.

14:25:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PLEASE.

IS THAT SATISFACTORY, MR. SHELBY?

14:25:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS IT BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT?

14:25:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE STILL HAVE THE MOTION.

TO AMEND THE MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

YOU SECONDED THAT AMEND?

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.




ANY OPPOSED?

COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I SAW YOUR HAND UP.

14:25:40 >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO SAY TO MR. MIRANDA'S POINT,

IF YOU HIRED A PRIVATE ATTORNEY, AND THEN THE PRIVATE

ATTORNEY SET UP ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS FOR YOUR COLLEAGUES AND

MADE A CASE AGAINST YOU AND PULLED OUT EVIDENCE THAT WAS

SKEWED IN A WAY TO MAKE YOU LOOK BAD, AND TO HURT YOUR NAME,

YOU WOULD BE PRETTY UPSET.

AND IF YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD REPRESENTATION FROM AN ATTORNEY

BUT THEN YOU GOT SUED AND YOU FOUND OUT THAT YOU DIDN'T, YOU

WOULD BE UPSET ALSO.

IF YOU FOUND OUT THAT IF YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD ATTORNEY

COVERAGE AND THEN WHEN YOU GOT SUED YOU FOUND THAT YOU HAD

NO ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE AND THERE WAS GOING TO BE NO

DEFENSE OF ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE YOU WOULD BE UPSET.

IF YOU FOUND OUT INSTEAD OF ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE THAT

YOUR ATTORNEY SPENT HOURS IN DEPOSITIONS THROWING YOU UNDER

THE BUS YOU WOULD BE UPSET.

AND FURTHERMORE IF YOUR ATTORNEY WENT TO THE MEDIA AND

PROACTIVELY SAID DISPARAGING THINGS ABOUT YOU THAT COULD

HAVE CAUSED YOU TO GET SUED, YOU WOULD BE VERY UPSET ABOUT

THAT TOO.

SO I THINK THERE'S A BIT OF CIVILITY WE HAVE TO DO HERE, AND

WE NEED TO LOOK AT FLORIDA BAR RULES.

THERE'S SOME GRAY AREA ABOUT HOW LEGAL DEPARTMENTS OF CITIES




ARE HANDLING IT.

THERE'S SOMEBODY LEEWAY, BUT WE HAVE GOT TO FIX THIS

SITUATION SO THERE ARE NOT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, AND

INFORMATION THAT SEEMS SKEWED TOWARD ONE CLIENT VERSUS

ANOTHER, OR WHERE ATTORNEYS ACT REPRESENTING SOMEONE AND

THEN ON THE OTHER HAND DON'T.

THANK YOU.

14:27:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I AM GOING TO SAY I BELIEVE IN THE LEGAL

PROCESS NO MATTER WHAT ATTORNEY IT IS, AND I AM NOT GOING TO

TAKE THIS CITY DOWN THE DRAIN WITH ME.

THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:27:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK THE GIST OF IT ALL IS WHEN I LOOK

AT CERTAIN SITUATIONS, YOU KNOW, AND I AM TRYING TO FIND

OUT, THERE'S REALLY NO POLICIES AND RULES FOR CITY COUNCIL.

IT SEEMS TO BE OFF ONE PLACE.

IT SEEMS WE ARE TREATED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

SO WE MAY BE COMING BACK WITH A TYPE OF MOTION, MR. SHELBY,

THAT WE HAVE A POLICY MANUAL HANDBOOK FOR CITY COUNCIL, HOW

COUNCIL OPERATES IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION AND WITH DIFFERENT

EMPLOYEES AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE, BECAUSE I CAN'T SEEM TO FIND

THAT ANYWHERE.

I CAN SEE THE POINTS BEING MADE.

I THINK THAT'S A POINT THAT NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN HOME.

SO I THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.




14:28:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR MADE BY

COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

14:28:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CAN YOU READ IT AGAIN, PLEASE?

THAT WAS ABOUT TEN MINUTES AGO.

14:28:19 >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION WAS TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO MAY

19, 2022 TO COINCIDE WITH ITEM NUMBER 64, AND TO AMEND THE

PREVIOUS MOTION THAT INCLUDED MARTIN SHELBY'S NAME AND TO

JUST LEAVE IT AS CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

14:28:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ROLL CALL VOTE.

14:28:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR IT ALL. I AM

GOING TO JUST VOTE NO FOR THE SAKE OF --

14:28:42 >> JOSEPH CITRO:
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.

14:28:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.

14:28:47 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

14:28:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

14:28:49 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

14:28:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

14:28:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

14:28:54 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO, AND

HURTAK BEING ABSENT.

14:28:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COULD YOU PLEASE TELL US THE COVERAGES IN

LEGAL MATTERS THAT COUNCIL DOES HAVE?

DO WE NOT HAVE PROTECTION, LEGAL PROTECTION, I DON'T WANT TO

SEE --




14:29:29 >> WE DO CARRY COVERAGE FOR ELECTED OFFICES WHICH INCLUDES

YOU AND CITY EMPLOYEES, THE AMOUNT OF COVERAGE, THE SIR

WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE DEDUCTIBLE IS $500,000 AND IT IS A $2

MILLION ANNUAL, PLUS A 2 MILLION AGGREGATE ANNUALLY.

14:29:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

14:29:47 >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIR?

CAN YOU TELL US HOW THE DECISION IS MADE AS TO WHETHER

SOMEBODY IS COVERED BELOW 500 THAT YOU, PLEASE?

14:29:57 >> BELOW 500,000?

THAT'S REALLY DETERMINED THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

14:30:04 >>BILL CARLSON:
THE CITY ATTORNEY IS APPOINTED BY THE

MAYOR, CORRECT?

14:30:08 >> I'M SORRY?

14:30:10 >>BILL CARLSON:
IT'S MADE BY A POLITICAL APPOINTEE?

IT'S MADE BY THE CITY ATTORNEY?

14:30:14 >> THE CITIES IS MADE BY THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE INVOLVED,

BUT FILING A CLAIM WOULD BE DOWNSTREAM OF THAT.

SO THE RISK MANAGER WOULDN'T MAKE THE DETERMINATION WHETHER

OR NOT TO FILE A CLAIM, AND I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK

AND TALK ABOUT IT, BUT JUST KIND OF GENERICALLY SPEAKING, WE

COULD MAKE THE DETERMINATION NOT TO FILE A CLAIM ON

SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN EXCESS OF $500,000 AS A CITY,

POTENTIALLY, BECAUSE WHEN WE DO FILE A CLAIM, BECAUSE WE

HAVE GOT AN UMBRELLA POLICY OF ALL OF OUR VARIOUS COVERAGES,

EVERY ACTION HAS A REACTION DOWNSTREAM, SO WE WOULD BE




COGNIZANT OF THAT.

REGARDLESS OF THE SITUATION, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS PRUDENT

FOR US TO FILE A CLAIM OR AS A SELF-INSURED THE CITY PAY OUT

OF POCKET.

SO THAT $500,000 IS THE NUMBER THAT MAKES A CARRIER FEEL

COMFORTABLE THAT WE ARE ALSO EXHIBITING SOME SENSE OF RISK

BEFORE WE GO --

14:31:08 >>BILL CARLSON:
I SAID THIS LAST TIME, MY ONLY CONCERN IS

500,000, WE NEED TO MAKE IT OBJECTIVE.

IT SHOULD NOT BE TO AN ARBITRARY DECISION OF SOMEONE WHO IS

APPOINTED CRITICALLY.

THE SAME THING WITH HEALTH INSURANCE F.SOMEBODY NEEDED A

LUNG TRANSPLANT YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO JOB LIFE TO BE UP TO

WHETHER SOMEBODY POLITICALLY LIKED YOU OR DIDN'T LIKE YOU.

THE OTHER EXAMPLE, IF I ACCIDENTALLY PARKED IN CHAIRMAN

CITRO'S PARKING SPACE I AM OBVIOUSLY BREAKING THE RULES OF

THE CITY, IF I GET HIT BY A CAR AND GO TO THE HOSPITAL, IS

THE CITY GOING TO DENY HEALTH CARE COVERAGE BECAUSE I BROKE

A RULE BY PARKING IN THE WRONG PARKING SPACE?

THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS.

WE HAVE A NATIONAL JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, CIVIL RIGHTS

INVESTIGATION GOING ON RIGHT NOW, AND THERE'S BEEN A WHOLE

BUNCH OF PRESS CONFERENCES AND PRESS RELEASE ABOUT TEXT

MESSAGES, AND IF YOU WEIGH BRUTAL CIVIL RIGHTS ABUSES OVER

THE LAST TEN YEARS COMPARED TO FIVE MISSING TEXT MESSAGES




THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WERE LOST, BUT THE CITY

ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SAYS, OH, WE ARE NOT GOING TO COVER ONE

PERSON BUT WE ARE GOING TO COVER THE OTHER, I THINK WE NEED

TO FIX THAT SO IT'S OBJECTIVE.

THANK YOU.

14:32:16 >> THANK YOU.

14:32:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

INFORMATION REPORTS.

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

14:32:23 >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE

PASS -- THAT WE ASK CITY THE R STAFF TO COME BACK ON JUNE

2nd WITH A PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO BE REQUIRE THE

ADMINISTRATION TO GIVE TEN DAYS NOTICE TO CITY COUNCIL CIVIL

RIGHTS OR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS ON THE CITY.

SO IN THE CASE OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT'S INVESTIGATION,

APPARENTLY STARTED IN DECEMBER, AND WE JUST FOUND OUT LAST

FRIDAY FROM THE MEDIA, MAYBE SOME OF YOU ALL REQUEST BRIEFED

BUT I FOUND OUT FROM THE MEDIA.

I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE BRINGING BACK A PROPOSED ORDINANCE

ON JUNE 2nd TO REQUIRE THE ADMINISTRATION GIVE TEN DAYS

NOTICE TO CITY COUNCIL OF ANY CIVIL RIGHTS OR CRIMINAL

INVESTIGATIONS UPON THE CITY.

14:33:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.

14:33:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND

BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.




ANY DISCUSSION?

14:33:34 >>LUIS VIERA:
AND I AM GLAD TO SUPPORT IT AND WHATNOT, BUT

I GUESS RED FLAG, WHICH IS THEY MAY NEED MORE TIME THAN JUNE

2nd, BUT WHO KNOWS, RIGHT?

BUT WHAT FORM OF NOTICE IS IT GOING TO BE?

IS IT INDIVIDUAL NOTICE?

I WILL LEAVE THAT TO THEM TO WORK IT OUT BUT JUST MY

THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

14:33:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?

MY QUESTION TO THAT WOULD BE TEN DAYS NOTICE.

IF THERE'S PENDING LITIGATION, CAN'T SOMEBODY ELSE TALK

ABOUT SOMETHING?

I'M ASKING COUNCIL HERE.

IS THERE SOME SORT OF GAG ORDER WHERE SOMEONE IF THERE'S

PENDING LITIGATION CAN'T DISCUSS?

OR WHAT IF THAT COMES INTO PLAY?

THEN THE ADMINISTRATION STILL NOTIFIES US WITHIN TEN DAYS?

14:34:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION AND ONE THAT I

DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE LEGAL

DEPARTMENT, I'M SURE, WOULD BE ABLE TO ADVISE WHEN THAT'S

APPROPRIATE OR NOT.

THE MOTION IS WHAT THE MOTION IS.

BUT IF THERE ARE REASONS THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT THINKS

THAT THAT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE, THEN I AM SURE THAT THEY




WILL COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE MAKER OF THE MOTION AND CITY

COUNCIL.

14:34:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MASS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

14:34:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE HAVE TWO BREAKS, ONE IN THE SUMMER, ONE

IN WINTER, AND DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY HAVE TO TRACE YOU

DOWN WHEREVER YOU ARE AT, SOMEBODY MAY BE ON VACATION?

OR DOES THAT MEAN THEY SEND A LETTER TO THE OFFICE?

YOU HAVE TO CLEAR IT UP.

AND LEGALITIES, IT INCLUDES HOLIDAY, AND WEEKENDS.

14:35:13 >>BILL CARLSON:
OKAY, THANK YOU.

14:35:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I WOULD PREFER IT.

MR. SHELBY.

14:35:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BEFORE YOU TAKE A VOTE, YOU REQUESTED THE

FORM OF AN ORDINANCE.

14:35:42 >>BILL CARLSON:
THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS CONCERNS OR CAVEATS

THEY WANT TO PUT IN, THEY WILL BUILD IN THE AND BRIEF US ON

IT OR THEY WILL ASK FOR IT TO BE DELAYED.

14:35:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OKAY.

I AM JUST THINKING THAT THERE ARE OTHER FORMS OF

COMMUNICATION TO THE ADMINISTRATION RATHER THAN THE FORM OF

AN ORDINANCE.

THAT MIGHT BE FASTER AND AS EFFECTIVE PERHAPS.




14:36:06 >>BILL CARLSON:
BUT IF WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE --

WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

14:36:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ROLL CALL VOTE.

14:36:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

14:36:16 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

14:36:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

14:36:19 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

14:36:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

14:36:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

14:36:22 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

14:36:26 >>BILL CARLSON:
SECOND I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT CITY

STAFF REPORT TO US ON JUNE 2nd AS TO AN UPDATE ON THE

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATION.

14:36:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY.

14:36:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES:


14:36:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

SECOND BY MANISCALCO.

ANY DISCUSSION?

ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.

14:36:46 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

14:36:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

14:36:54 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

14:36:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

14:36:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.




14:36:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

14:36:59 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

14:37:02 >>BILL CARLSON:
TWO MORE QUICK ONES.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT REPORT

BACK TO US ON JUNE 2nd ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ANY

SAVINGS THAT WE CAN USE IN THE WATER DEPARTMENT TO REDUCE

WATER RATES.

14:37:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.

14:37:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

14:37:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

14:37:28 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

14:37:29 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

14:37:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

14:37:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

14:37:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

14:37:37 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

14:37:39 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH ME.

ZANABAR IS RETIRING FROM PLANT MUSEUM AFTER 31 YEARS, AND I

WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A COMMENDATION ON MAY 18th

OFF-PREMISES, PLEASE.

14:37:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[OFF MICROPHONE]

14:38:05 >>BILL CARLSON:
WHY DON'T YOU PUT YOUR NAME ON IT?




14:38:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, NO, NO.

[SOUNDING GAVEL]

14:38:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMEN, COUNCILMEN.

14:38:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I MEAN IT.

14:38:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

SECONDED BY DEMAND MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:38:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WELL, GENTLEMEN, YOU KNOW THE HOUSING

CRISIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN BUILD OURSELVES OUT OF.

THIS CRISIS WILL REQUIRE SEVERAL STRATEGIES.

EAST TAMPA OWNER OCCUPIED AND DETERIORATING SO THERE ARE

MANY, MANY MORE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

IF THE PRORATE ISSUE IS ADDRESSED MANY OF THESE HOMES COULD

BE BROUGHT ONLINE FOR RENTAL OR HOME OWNERSHIP.

I MAKE A MOTION TO ADDRESS PROBING ISSUES AND BRING

ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS ONLINE AND CAN BRING THAT BACK TO

US ON JUNE 16, 2022.

14:39:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.

14:39:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY

COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.

14:39:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

14:39:14 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.




14:39:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

14:39:16 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

14:39:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

14:39:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

14:39:21 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

14:39:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN GUDES?

COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?

14:39:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOTHING AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU, SIR.

14:39:34 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, WE HAVE A COMMENDATION MEETING ON, WHAT,

MAY, TUESDAY.

I KNOW THIS IS A LAST MINUTE ONE AND I FORGOT TO DO THIS.

COLONEL REYES WAS JUST RECENTLY INDUCTED INTO THE FLORIDA

VETERANS HALL OF FAME AND I WANTED TO HAVE HIM HERE FOR A

CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION INDICATION FOR THAT.

14:39:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY

COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?

IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?

THANK YOU.

MOTION CARRIES.

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

14:40:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE ONE.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ADMINISTRATION TO PRESENT




THE FISCAL MIDYEAR REVIEW DURING THE MAY 19 CITY COUNCIL

MEETING.

14:40:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

14:40:22 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

14:40:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

14:40:29 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

14:40:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

14:40:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

14:40:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

14:40:34 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

14:40:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. SHELBY, ANYTHING FOR YOU BEFORE WE

PROCEED?

14:40:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, SIR.

IT'S FITTING THAT IT WAS JUST AFTER THE LAST MOTION

REGARDING THE BUDGET MIDYEAR REPORT BECAUSE THE ADVISORY

COMMITTEE, AS COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE

DAY, HAS A NEED TO HAVE STAFFING SUPPORT, AND PURSUANT TO

THE RESOLUTION FROM 2011, IT DOES STATE SPECIFICALLY THAT

SUCH CLERICAL, SECRETARIAL AND OTHER SERVICES SHALL BE -- AS

SHALL BE NEEDED BY THE COMMITTEE SHALL BE RENDERED THROUGH

THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF.

THAT'S THE WAY THAT STATES.




ALSO, THAT RESOLUTION DOES ALSO NEED TO BE UPDATED AND

REVISED.

SO I SUSPECT TRADITIONALLY WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS

THAT THE FINANCE CHAIR'S LEGISLATIVE AIDE, MY UNDERSTANDING

IS THAT THEY TOOK ON THAT TASK AND I BELIEVE IT'S A GREATER

TASK, BECOME A GREATER TASK THAN IT WAS IN THE PAST, AND

LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME SORT OF GUIDANCE FROM CITY COUNCIL

WITH REGARD TO HOW BEST TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

WE HAVE A NEW CHAIR, OBVIOUSLY.

CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.

BUT THE QUESTION ULTIMATELY IS, AT THE LAST MEETING,

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY FAILED TO GET A QUORUM.

SO THERE WAS NO MEETING THIS PAST WEEK, ACTUALLY YESTERDAY.

SO THAT BEING SAID, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO SOLVE

THE LOGISTICS ISSUES TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS BOARD AND TO

GET IT CLEAR ABOUT ITS MISSION MOVING FORWARD SO THAT THEY

CAN DO WHAT IT IS THAT THEY FEEL NEEDS TO BE DONE IN SUPPORT

OF PRESENTING NEW INFORMATION FOR THEIR BUDGET -- FROM THEM,

FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE BUDGET.

SO I AM LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE FROM COUNCIL.

14:42:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

14:42:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK THAT THE RESOLUTION IS OUTDATED.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED, NUMBER ONE.

MAYBE MR. SHELBY GETS WITH THE NEW CHAIRMAN AND GET SOME

ADVICE FROM THE OTHER COUNCILMEN AND BRING IT BACK AT OUR




NEXT MEETING AND THAT COMMITTEE IS VERY IMPORTANT, AND THEY

DO A LOT OF WORK NOW.

I AM NOT SAYING THE OTHER COMMITTEES DIDN'T BEFORE, BUT THE

CITY HAS GROWN, AND THEY WERE OPERATING OUT OF ORDER, THAT

WE FOUND OUT ABOUT, IN THE MEETINGS COMPLIANCE.

SO MR. SHELBY TO GET WITH THE CHAIR AND COME UP WITH A

SOLUTION IN REFERENCE TO THE MEMBERS ON THAT COMMITTEE THAT

IF YOU NEED SOMEONE, THEY NEED TO BE PART OF THAT COMMITTEE,

MISSING DATES AND TIMES AND SO FORTH, AND WE NEED TO HELP

THE CLERK SEND A NOTICE TO THEM, OR SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE

STAFF RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE STAFF AND AIDS ARE VERY BUSY, AND

IF WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE NOTICES OF MEETINGS, THEN LET'S

DO THAT UNTIL WE CAN GET IT INTO THE BUDGET IN REFERENCE TO

COME INTO COMPLIANCE, THAT THE CHARTER SAYS WE HAVE A PERSON

ON THAT COMMITTEE, AND ALSO THE SECRETARY OF STAFF.

14:44:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND I'M HAPPY TO HELP.

14:44:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WHEN IS THEIR NEXT MEETING?

14:44:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THEY ARE SCHEDULED FOR THE FIRST WEDNESDAY

OF THE MONTH IN JUNE AND NOW YOU HAVE THIS MIDYEAR REPORT

COMING UP BEFORE THEN.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS IN TALKING TO MIKE PERRY, IT TURNS OUT

FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE THE INPUT AND

PARTICIPATION OF STAFF IS CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT TO THE SUCCESS

OF THAT COMMITTEE GETTING THEIR INFORMATION, AND IT TURNS

OUT THAT I LEARNED JUST YESTERDAY THAT WEDNESDAYS, IN




PARTICULAR, ARE THE MOST DIFFICULT TIME FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE

TO PARTICIPATE.

FRIDAY IS WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS THE DAY OF THE WEEK THAT THEY

HAD MET IN THE PAST, AND THAT WORKS BEST FOR STAFF.

SO THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT STAFF NEEDED TO HAVE OR NEEDS TO

HAVE WITH THE COMMITTEE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY COULDN'T TAKE

PLACE YESTERDAY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO QUORUM.

14:45:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WHAT STAFF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CLERK'S OFFICE?

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT I.T.?

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LEGAL?

WHICH PART OF THE STAFF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

14:45:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WELL, GENERALLY, THE REQUEST OF THE BUDGET

COMMITTEE WAS TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE FROM BUDGET AND FINANCE

REGULARLY.

BUT IF THEY REQUEST OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO COME IN, IT

INCLUDES DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

ON A AS-REQUESTED BASIS.

14:45:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

14:45:43 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.

I AM HAPPY TO DO THIS IF YOU WANT.

HOW ABOUT IF WE MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL

ATTORNEY CIRCULATE THE RESOLUTION CREATING THE COMMITTEE TO

ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND

DISCUSS IT ON JUNE 2nd DURING STAFF REPORTS TO RECOMMEND




COLLECTIVELY CHANGES TO IT SO THAT WE DO ALL THE CHANGES AT

ONCE?

14:46:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.

14:46:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S GOING TO BE A LONG PROCESS.

AT A PUBLIC MEETING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

14:46:20 >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE ALLOWED TO TAKE

INPUT FROM US INDIVIDUALLY BUT I WOULD ASSUME YOU WOULD DO

THAT ANYWAY.

YOU JUST CAN'T SHARE IT BETWEEN US.

FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE THINGS AS I UNDERSTAND STAFF ARE

SCARED THAT THEY ARE LIKE HUNTING FOR NEGATIVE THINGS TO

FIND, AND WE CAN CLARIFY THAT IN THE LANGUAGE OF WHAT WE

DESCRIBE.

TO ME, THEY ARE EYES AND EARS TOGETHER, MORE DETAILED

INFORMATION ON THE BUDGET, NOT ON A HUNTING EXPEDITION TO

FIND SOMETHING BAD.

AND JUST CHANGING SOME LANGUAGE WE PROBABLY CAN JUST CHANGE

IT, AND IF WE NEED TO IN A RESOLUTION PUT TENANT'S

REQUIREMENTS OR WHATEVER SO IF SOMEBODY MISSES TWO OR THREE

MEETINGS THEN WE CAN REPLACE THEM.

14:47:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AND THAT WAS WHAT MY QUESTIONS WERE ABOUT,

TO FIND A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION, WHETHER THE STAFF THAT WAS

NEEDED WAS FOR CLERK OR I.T. OR LEGAL OR FINANCE, AND FIND A

SHORT TERM UNTIL WE COLLECTIVELY FIND A LONG-TERM SOLUTION.

BUT COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS A MOTION.




IS THERE A SECOND TO IT?

14:47:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHEN IS THAT BOARD SCHEDULED TO MEET

AGAIN?

14:47:28 >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS IS THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION.

14:47:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE SHORT TERM SOLUTION IS HOW WE GET

EVERYTHING DONE IN PREPARATION FOR THE NEXT MEETING ON THE

FIRST WEDNESDAY.

14:47:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION, WHAT DO THEY NEED

FROM US AS FAR AS STAFF GOES?

14:47:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SOMEBODY TO TAKE THE MINUTES, PREPARE THE

MINUTES, IN ADVANCE OF THAT, THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE TO

PUT TOGETHER AN AGENDA, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CLERK GETS THE

NOTICE, OR MAYBE THE CLERK DOES THE NOTICE, THAT THE NOTICE

GOES OUT, AND THAT IT'S A LOCATION THAT IS IN THE SUNSHINE,

AND THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT MINUTES ARE TAKEN, AND RECORDED.

14:48:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WOULD IT BE TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR THIS

COUNCIL TO ASK THE CLERK'S OFFICE FOR HELP FOR JUST THAT ONE

MEETING UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT SOMETHING LONG-TERM?

14:48:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CLERK -- I KNOW THE CLERK IS SHORT

STAFFED.

UNLESS THERE'S A LEGISLATIVE AIDE THAT WANTS TO VOLUNTEER.

14:48:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT STATEMENT.

AND WE ARE SHORT THERE.

14:48:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.




14:48:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SO HOW DO WE SOLVE THE SHORT TERM BEFORE WE

GET TOGETHER AND DECIDE LONG-TERM?

COUNCILMAN GUDES?

14:48:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
AND IF THE CLERK SENDS OUT THE NOTICES, SO

UNFORTUNATELY IT MAY FALL ON THEM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE

PEOPLE TO DO IT.

SO THEY SEND OUT THE NOTICES, AND THEY ARE SHORT, TOO, BUT

CONTACT THE CHAIRMAN OF THAT COMMITTEE AND SEE WHAT THEY

NEED, AND GET IT DONE.

14:49:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE CLERK SENT THE NOTICES THROUGHOUT THE

CITY AND ENDS UP POSTING THE NOTICES.

THEY DON'T NECESSARILY DRAW UP THE NOTICE.

14:49:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WHO DOES THE NOTICES?

14:49:32 >>THE CLERK:
[OFF MICROPHONE] -- OUR DEPARTMENT AND THEN

DISTRIBUTE IT.

14:49:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO BASICALLY THEY HAVE BEEN DRAWING UP

NOTICES ANYWAY IS WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME?

14:49:44 >>THE CLERK:
NO, NO.

14:49:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WHO HAS BEEN DOING IT?

14:49:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE LEGISLATIVE AIDS, THE FINANCE CHAIR,

OR WHATEVER LEGISLATIVE AIDE A COUNCILMEMBER DECIDES TO HAVE

THAT AIDE DO THAT.

IN THE PAST IT WAS A LEGISLATIVE AIDE THAT WAS THE

ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.

AND SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, THE POSITION SHIFTED AND




WORKLOAD CHANGED.

SO WITH REGARD TO NEXT MONTH'S NOTICE, AND AGENDA, THE ONLY

THING THAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT IS SOMEBODY THERE TO

TAKE THE MINUTES AND TO BE ABLE TO DRAW UP THE MINUTES.

I COULD GO OVER THE NOTICE.

14:50:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AM GOING TO ASK THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO

HAVE SOMEONE THERE TO TAKE MINUTES, FOR THE NEXT BUDGET HE

CITIZENS BUDGET AND FINANCE REVIEW.

CAN THAT BE ACCOMMODATED FOR THAT ONE MEETING?

I APOLOGIZE.

14:50:48 >>THE CLERK:
WE ARE VERY SHORT STAFFED.

14:50:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AND I UNDERSTAND.

14:50:53 >>THE CLERK:
ON THAT WEDNESDAY, I HAVE AGENDA REVIEW GOING

ON.

THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.

WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO HELP, BUT WE ARE EXTREMELY SHORT

STAFFED

GENTLEMEN?

I HAVE ASKED.

WHAT ARE THE OTHER OPTIONS? DOES ANYBODY WANT TO GIVE UP

THEIR AIDE FOR THE EVENING?

TWO HOURS.

14:51:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ACTUALLY IT'S JUNE 1st.

14:51:30 >>BILL CARLSON:
IS IT POSSIBLE THE CLERK COULD HIRE A TEMP

AND WE COULD PAY OUT OF OUR CITY COUNCIL BUDGETS?




14:51:36 >>THE CLERK:
THEY MAY NOT BE THERE.

14:51:42 >> COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD?

[ LAUGHTER ]

14:51:54 >> LISA EDWARDS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, I WILL DO THE

MINUTES FOR THAT ONE MEETING.

[ APPLAUSE ]

14:52:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MS. EDWARDS.

14:52:15 >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIR, COULD WE VOTE ON THE OTHER ONE,

TOO?

14:52:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WHAT'S THE

OTHER ONE?

WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS FOR SO LONG.

14:52:27 >>BILL CARLSON:
THE OTHER ONE WAS TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL

ATTORNEY TO CIRCULATE THE RESOLUTION THAT CREATED THE BUDGET

COMMITTEE, AND ASK FOR EACH OF US TO GIVE INPUT, AND THEN

HAVE A DISCUSSION DURING STAFF REPORTS ON JUNE 2nd TO

COLLECT INPUT AND RECOMMEND CHANGES, CONSENSUS ON CHANGES TO

THE ENABLING RESOLUTION.

14:52:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU HEARD THE MOTION OF COUNCILMAN CARLSON,

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

14:52:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

14:53:00 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

14:53:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.




14:53:02 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

14:53:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

14:53:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

14:53:06 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

14:53:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I HAVE ONE MORE ITEM.

I'M SORRY TO DO THAT, COUNCIL, BUT THIS CAME UP AT THE LAST

WORKSHOP AND YOU JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SO WE DON'T HAVE THE

ISSUE COME UP AGAIN.

WE ARE IN A HYBRID STATE NOW AND THE QUESTION IS, WHEN DO

YOU WANT TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?

DO YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT THE ORIGINAL RULES WHICH,

WHICH WAS DISCUSSIONS AFTER EACH ITEM, OR DO YOU WANT TO

HAVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT UP FRONT, OR DO YOU WANT TO HAVE

BOTH AND ONLY ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK ONCE ON EACH SUBJECT?

SO THE QUESTION IS, WHICH IS THE WAY I THINK YOU HANDLED IT

LAST TIME AT THE LAST WORKSHOP, BUT THE WAY IT WAS, YOUR

STANDING RULES STATE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MATTER WHICH IS

THE SUBJECT OF THE WORKSHOP SHALL BE TAKEN UP TO A TOTAL OF

30 MINUTES, AT THE END OF EACH WORKSHOP AGENDA, THREE

MINUTES PER SPEAKER, NO OFFICIAL ON THE MATTER WHICH IS THE

SUBJECT OF THE WORKSHOP SHALL BE TAKEN DURING OR AFTER A

WORKSHOP UNLESS THE PUBLIC IS AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO

COMMENT IT PRIOR TO ACTION.

THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THERE WAS NO GENERAL COMMENT ON




WORKSHOP DAYS.

SO YOU WENT RIGHT INTO THE WORKSHOPS AND YOU ALLOWED ONLY

PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE WORKSHOP ITEM.

IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE HOW YOU WANT TO CONDUCT YOUR

MEETINGS.

14:54:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD SAY WE DO IT LIKE WE DID LAST

THURSDAY WHERE WE HAD GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE

BEGINNING, BUT THOSE THAT SPOKE MAY NOT -- THEY HAVE TO

SPEAK WHAT WE CALL IT NOT ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA, BECAUSE

THEN AFTER EACH WORKSHOP ITEM WE'LL HAVE THAT PUBLIC

COMMENT.

14:54:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BUT IF THEY WANTED TO COME IN AND SPEAK

BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE FIRST ON THE AGENDA, SAY THEIR PEACE

AND THEN LEAVE?

14:54:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YEAH, BECAUSE I BELIEVE MR. ROBINSON

SPOKE AND HE HAD ANOTHER MATTER TO ATTEND TO AND HE WAS NOT

ABLE TO BE HERE, BUT HE DIDN'T COME BACK FOR A SECOND BITE

AT THE APPLE.

AND THEN HE HAD TO GO TO WORK AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

14:55:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SO CONSENSUS IS TO HAVE GENERAL PUBLIC

COMMENT, AND ALSO SPEAK AFTER EACH ITEM?

14:55:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND WE GOT OUT PRETTY EARLY, TOO.

IT DIDN'T MAKE FOR A SUPER LONG DAY.

14:55:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE

USE THE SAME FORMAT LIKE LAST THURSDAY WHICH IS THAT GENERAL




PUBLIC COMMENT, NO SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE, AND THEN AFTER

EACH WORKSHOP ITEM PEOPLE CAN SPEAK ON THAT SAID ITEM.

14:55:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

14:55:38 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

14:55:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

14:55:45 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

14:55:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

14:55:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

14:55:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

14:55:49 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING

ABSENT.

14:55:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

14:55:56 >> SECOND.

14:55:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?

WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

(CITY COUNCIL MEETING ADJOURNED)


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