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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MAY 12, 2022
5:01 P.M.



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17:02:55 [GAVEL SOUNDING]

17:02:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD EVENING, WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY

17:03:01 COUNCIL'S HEARING TONIGHT, THE EVENING AGENDA ON THIS

17:03:04 DATE OF MAY 12, 2022.

17:03:08 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

17:03:09 >>CLERK: CARLSON.

17:03:11 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

17:03:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

17:03:14 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.

17:03:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

17:03:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

17:03:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M HERE.

17:03:21 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

17:03:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.

17:03:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

17:03:30 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY MAY 12, 2022.

17:03:35 WE ARE HERE FOR THE EVENING AGENDA AFTER 5 P.M. AT

17:03:36 OLD CITY MALL.

17:03:40 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE IN CITY COUNCIL

17:03:44 CHAMBERS, IN PERSON OR THROUGH VIDEO TELECONFERENCING

17:03:47 REFERRED TO AS COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY.

17:03:57 WITH REGARD TO THAT, THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO -- I DON'T

17:04:00 HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME, I AM SORRY.

17:04:05 THE PUBLIC ABLE TO VIEW THIS ON CABLE TV.

17:04:12 SPECTRUM AND FRONTIER AND ALSO LIVESTREAMING AT TAMPA

17:04:16 GOVERNOR.NET/LIVESTREAM.

17:04:20 PREREGISTRATION IS REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY IN

17:04:23 A PUBLIC HEARING ON A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER.

17:04:25 FOR MOVING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, THE

17:04:31 INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE AT TAMPA.GOV/QUASI.

17:04:34 IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE VIA CMT, YOU MUST HAVE ACCESS

17:04:38 TO A COMMUNICATION MEDIA DEVICE LIKE A TABLET OR

17:04:41 COMPUTER EQUIPPED WITH A CAMERA AND MICROPHONE THAT

17:04:45 ALLOWS YOU TO BE SEEN AND HEARD BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND

17:04:46 ALL OTHER PARTICIPANTS.

17:04:51 FOR THESE SPECIFIC TWO-WAY VIDEO FORMATS, CELL PHONES

17:04:55 AND SMARTPHONES ARE NOT COMBATABLE BECAUSE DOES NOT

17:04:58 ALLOW TO YOU SHARE YOUR CAMERA.

17:05:00 ALSO A REMINDER, COUNCIL.

17:05:04 THERE ARE SEVERAL HEARINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE --

17:05:08 ACTUALLY LITTLE BIT BUSY LET ME SAY, PUT THAT WAY.

17:05:16 BUT WITH REGARD TO -- THE EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS,

17:05:17 COUNCIL.

17:05:19 A REMINDER IF YOU HAD EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION REGARDING

17:05:24 ANY OF TONIGHT'S MEETINGS, HEARINGS, DISCLOSE THE SUM

17:05:27 AND SUBSTANCE AND WHOM THAT COMMUNICATION OCCURRED AND

17:05:30 DO THAT AT THE START OF THE MEETING IF YOU WISH TO DO

17:05:31 THAT.

17:05:32 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

17:05:33 >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT BEFORE THE

17:05:40 ACTUAL ONE ITSELF OR DO IN GENERAL RIGHT NOW?

17:05:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK IT PROBABLY WILL BE BETTER TO

17:05:46 DO AT THE START OF EACH HEARING, I THINK.

17:05:47 >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, GREAT.

17:05:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE

17:05:58 BEEN RECEIVED AND FILED, THEY HAVE BEEN UPLOADED THAT

17:05:59 THE POINT TO SIRE.

17:06:02 IN THEY HAVE NOT BEEN UPLOADED AND SOMETHING THAT COMES

17:06:06 IN TODAY OR RECENT THREE DID NOT HAVE THE PUBLIC THE

17:06:09 OPPORTUNITY TO BE ON SIRE, MAKE SURE YOU DISCLOSE THOSE

17:06:10 AS WELL.

17:06:15 ALSO, WITH REGARD TO THE PLATFORM.

17:06:19 FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE PARTICIPATING ON GO TO

17:06:21 MEETING AND THERE ARE QUITE A FEW TONIGHT.

17:06:25 JUST A REMINDER, PLEASE, THE CHAT BOX ON THE GO TO

17:06:29 MEETING PLATFORM IS FOR TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES ONLY.

17:06:32 AND IF YOU SHOULD HAVE ANY DIFFICULTIES, THAT IS WHEN

17:06:33 YOU USE IT.

17:06:36 OTHERWISE, PLEASE DO NOT USE THE CHAT BOX TO

17:06:40 COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH ANYBODY INVOLVING THE SUM AND

17:06:41 SUBSTANCE OF THE HEARING.

17:06:44 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

17:06:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

17:06:46 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

17:06:50 >>LUIS VIERA: OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION WHICH YOU

17:06:53 NEVER WANT TO DO, I JUST SAW A MESSAGE ON FACEBOOK

17:06:56 MESSENGER REGARDING WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE THE

17:06:57 HARBOUR ISLAND.

17:06:59 WHAT THE PROCESS OF THAT.

17:07:02 IT IS NOT REMARKABLE, BUT, AGAIN, OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE

17:07:04 OF CAUTION.

17:07:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONCE WE GET TO THAT ONE --

17:07:09 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL BEGIN THE PROCESS.

17:07:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

17:07:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

17:07:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OH, YES.

17:07:17 SORRY, A MOTION TO WAIVE THE RULES TO ALLOW FOR THE CMT.

17:07:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

17:07:24 SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

17:07:28 ROLL CALL VOTE.

17:07:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

17:07:30 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

17:07:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

17:07:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

17:07:34 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

17:07:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

17:07:38 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT.

17:07:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I ALSO WANT TO MENTION I HAVE THAT

17:07:44 MEMO FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON WHO WILL NOT BE WITH US

17:07:50 TODAY NEITHER WILL HE BE ON ZOOM; HOWEVER, TOMORROW IS

17:07:51 HIS BIRTHDAY.

17:07:56 HAPPY BIRTHDAY, COUNCILMAN.

17:07:58 MISS WELLS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO CLEAN UP

17:08:02 ON THE AGENDA?

17:08:03 OKAY.

17:08:03 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

17:08:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO ONLY ONLY ITEMS 1-15.

17:08:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

17:08:11 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

17:08:14 ALL IN FAVOR.

17:08:15 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

17:08:19 NUMBER ONE.

17:08:21 >>ANNIE BARNES: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

17:08:24 ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

17:08:27 BEFORE WE BEGIN, SOME ITEMS I WOULD LIKE TO CLEAN UP

17:08:28 BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

17:08:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU,

17:08:33 >>ANNIE BARNES: ITEM NUMBER 1, REZ 21-04.

17:08:35 THIS PETITION WAS NOT PROPERLY NOTICED.

17:08:38 CAN YOU PLEASE REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE AGENDA.

17:08:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE NUMBER REZ-21-04,

17:08:47 >>ANNIE BARNES: YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

17:08:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND

17:08:51 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

17:08:52 ALL IN FAVOR.

17:08:54 ANY OPPOSED?

17:08:56 THANK YOU.

17:08:56 >>ANNIE BARNES: THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM ITEM NUMBER 9 IS

17:09:02 REZ 22-01.

17:09:04 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO BE HEARD

17:09:09 AT THE JUNE 2, 2022 PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:01 P.M.

17:09:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE ON ITEM NUMBER 9.

17:09:17 21 --

17:09:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DO WE KNOW OUT MANY WE HAVE FOR

17:09:20 THIS DAY?

17:09:24 >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES.

17:09:27 THAT WAS THE ADDITIONAL HEARING NIGHT ADDED TO THE

17:09:30 SCHEDULE SO ADDITIONAL SPOTS OPEN.

17:09:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO I HAVE A SECOND.

17:09:34 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO MADE THE MOTION AND SECONDED BY

17:09:34 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

17:09:36 ALL IN FAVOR.

17:09:37 OPPOSED?

17:09:42 THANK YOU, MISS BARNES.

17:09:45 >>ANNIE BARNES: THE LAST ITEM IS NUMBER 13, REZ 22-14.

17:09:48 THE PETITION WAS NOT PROPERLY NOTICED.

17:09:49 REMOVE THE ITEM FROM THE AGENDA.

17:09:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 13.

17:09:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

17:09:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.

17:09:57 ANY OPPOSED?

17:10:06 THANK YOU.

17:10:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, FILE

17:10:17 NUMBER DRI-22-72367.

17:10:20 BEFORE WE BEGIN, I THINK MISS HURTAK --

17:10:22 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

17:10:25 AND -- BECAUSE I KNOW TWO AND THREE ARE GOING TOGETHER,

17:10:28 I RECEIVED E-MAILS FROM CONSTITUENTS THAT ASKED ME TO

17:10:30 GO AND LOOK AT THE SITE.

17:10:34 SO I DO.

17:10:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE ANNOUNCING THE FACT YOU

17:10:38 VISITED THE SITE.

17:10:39 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I DID.

17:10:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

17:10:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

17:10:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I RECEIVED A FACEBOOK MESSENGER

17:10:49 MESSAGE -- IS REGARDING HARBOUR ISLAND.

17:10:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN, MAKE IT CLEAR WILL WE BE

17:10:54 HEARING TWO AND THREE TOGETHER?

17:10:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.

17:10:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, WE HAD THAT.

17:11:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MESSAGE I RECEIVED WAS FROM

17:11:03 SOMEONE NAMED JIMMY CLARK.

17:11:07 I ALREADY SCREEN SHOTTED IT, E-MAILED IT TO MYSELF SO

17:11:08 IT IS PUBLIC.

17:11:13 IT SAID I AM COMING DOWN TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.

17:11:16 I HOPE I DON'T GET MOBBED.

17:11:17 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

17:11:19 A SCREEN SHOT IS THERE.

17:11:20 I DIDN'T RESPOND TO IT.

17:11:21 AND NOW YOU KNOW.

17:11:23 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

17:11:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I ALSO -- EXCUSE ME, COUNCILMAN

17:11:26 MIRANDA.

17:11:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW IF I RECEIVED ANY

17:11:30 BECAUSE I HARDLY LOOK AT FAIRS FACE.

17:11:34 I DON'T LOOK AT ANY FACEBOOK.

17:11:36 ONCE IN A WHILE I LOOK AT SOMEBODY WHO SENDS ME A TEXT

17:11:39 -- I CALLED MIAMI A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO AND ASKED

17:11:43 THEM TO SEND ME AN ADDRESS THAT I HAVE TO MAIL A

17:11:45 PACKAGE FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

17:11:46 I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.

17:11:50 I HAVEN'T READ IT.

17:11:53 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, THANK GOD YOU ARE NOT A SUPREME

17:11:56 COURT JUSTICE.

17:11:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.

17:12:00 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I WAS MAKING A COPY.

17:12:03 AN OVERSIZED COPY, BY THE WAY, BECAUSE I AM NOT GOOD

17:12:05 WITH THE COPY MACHINE.

17:12:08 BUT I DID RECEIVE A MESSENGER MESSAGE THINK THAT

17:12:12 LITERALLY JUST SAW BECAUSE I DON'T ALWAYS CHECK MY

17:12:15 MESSENGER MERELY ON THE HARBOUR ISLAND MATTER STATING

17:12:18 SOMEBODY WAS COMING HERE THIS EVENING.

17:12:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MUST BE THE SAME GENTLEMAN, I

17:12:22 SUSPECT.

17:12:24 >>LUIS VIERA: I MADE COPIES.

17:12:30 SHALL I GIVE THIS TO YOU?

17:12:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAVE YOU --

17:12:34 [LAUGHTER]

17:12:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I LIKE THE OVERSIZED PAPER.

17:12:39 [LAUGHTER]

17:12:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION IS WHAT WE CAN DO IS --

17:12:49 WE CAN PUT -- PUT ONE INTO THE RECORD AND MY SUGGESTION

17:12:52 WOULD BE IF YOU CAN JUST E-MAIL THAT TO THE CITY E-MAIL

17:12:56 SYSTEM PRESERVED AS A PUBLIC RECORD, PLEASE.

17:12:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALSO IN FULL DISCLOSURE, I RECEIVED A

17:13:02 MESSAGE FROM MR. JIMMY CLARK STATING HE WOULD BE DOWN

17:13:06 HERE TONIGHT IN SUPPORT OF THE HOTEL.

17:13:09 AND I HAVE TAKEN SCREEN SHOTS OF THAT.

17:13:11 SENT THEM TO MY E-MAIL JUST IN CASE ANYBODY ASKS FOR

17:13:12 THEM.

17:13:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.

17:13:17 JUST A REMINDER TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT DURING

17:13:20 THE COURSE OF THE HEARING, PLEASE DO NOT COMMUNICATE BY

17:13:25 TEXT OR BY E-MAIL TO THE CITY COUNCILMEMBERS DURING THE

17:13:26 COURSE OF THE HEARING.

17:13:29 EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO BE DECIDED HAS TO BE BASED ON

17:13:32 COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD AND THINGS

17:13:34 HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISCLOSED AND I ASK THAT YOU

17:13:37 PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF THAT FOR THOSE PEOPLE ESPECIALLY

17:13:39 AT HOME AS WELL.

17:13:42 AND COUNCIL, JUST A REMINDER, IF EVERYTHING SHOULD COME

17:13:44 IN THAT YOU PLEASE IGNORE IT.

17:13:46 IF YOU HAPPEN TO READS IT OR SEE IT, THAT YOU DISCLOSE

17:13:48 IT DURING THE HEARING.

17:13:49 THANK YOU.

17:13:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE ARE

17:13:56 GOING TO BE OPENING ITEMS -- AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 2 AND

17:13:57 3 TOGETHER.

17:14:04 THOSE FILE NUMBER DRI 22-72367 AND FILE NUMBER

17:14:07 REZ-21-52.

17:14:13 SO THEY WILL BE HEARD TOGETHER.

17:14:14 MISS BARNES.

17:14:16 >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LANDS DEVELOPMENT

17:14:18 COORDINATION.

17:14:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY, MISS BARNES, PLEASE FORGIVE ME.

17:14:24 ANYONE WHO IS GOING TO BE GIVING ANY TYPE OF EVIDENCE

17:14:30 TONIGHT OR IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING TONIGHT, WOULD YOU

17:14:34 PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN.

17:14:41 SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING AND GIVING COMMENTS

17:14:45 TONIGHT -- [SWEARING IN]

17:14:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST AS A REMINDER, MY

17:14:52 UNDERSTANDING PEOPLE ON THE SECOND FLOOR AS WELL.

17:14:55 SO I HAVE POSTED A LITTLE SIGN OVER THERE ON THE

17:15:00 LECTERN THAT SAYS -- ASKING WERE YOU SWORN IN.

17:15:03 SO WHEN YOU COME UP TO SPEAK, AFTER YOU STATE YOUR

17:15:07 NAME, A REMINDER TO STATE OFF THIS BEEN SWORN IN, IF

17:15:07 YOU DON'T MIND.

17:15:08 THANK YOU.

17:15:11 TO ACCOMMODATE THE PEOPLE ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND.

17:15:16 >> IT SPILLED OVER ON THE FIRST FLOOR, PERHAPS.

17:15:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

17:15:22 YES, MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ.

17:15:25 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, CITY LEGAL

17:15:27 DEPARTMENT.

17:15:29 PROPOSAL FOR DRI.

17:15:32 BECAUSE COUNCIL DOESN'T SEE THEM THAT OFTEN, TWO OR

17:15:35 THREE IN THE TIME THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

17:15:38 I WANTED TO GIVE A REFRESHER WHAT A DEVELOPMENT OF

17:15:41 REGIONAL IMPACT IS, A CREATURE OF STATUTE THAT WAS

17:15:44 CREATED TO ADDRESS THE REVIEW AND PROCESSING OF LARGE

17:15:46 SCALE DEVELOPMENTS THAT EFFECT MORE THAN ONE COUNTY AND

17:15:50 A MIXED-USE PROJECT LIKE THE HARBOUR ISLAND PROJECT IS

17:15:52 A TYPICAL EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT WOULD

17:15:55 HAVE GOTTEN DRI REVIEW.

17:15:58 AND SO IT IS ALL -- IT IS ALL CONTROLLED BY FLORIDA

17:16:00 STATUTES AND THERE USED TO BE COORDINATION BETWEEN THE

17:16:04 REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO

17:16:07 COORDINATE ALL THE REVIEWING AGENCIES BOTH AT THE

17:16:12 STATE AND REGIONAL AND LOCAL LEVEL, BUT IN 2015 AND

17:16:15 2018, THE STATE LEGISLATURE PASSED SIGNIFICANT

17:16:18 LEGISLATION THAT VIRTUALLY ELIMINATED STATE AND

17:16:23 REGIONAL OVERSIGHT OF EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS OF REGIONAL

17:16:27 IMPACT AND TRANSFERRED THAT FOR IMPLEMENTING AND

17:16:30 APPROVING AMENDMENTS TO DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDERS TO LOCAL

17:16:32 GOVERNMENTS WHERE THE DROCHLTS LOCATED.

17:16:35 BECAUSE THE HARBOUR ISLAND DRI IS LOCATED IN THE CITY

17:16:38 OF TAMPA, THE CITY HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO IMPLEMENT

17:16:42 AND APPROVE ANY AMENDMENTS OR OPPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE

17:16:45 HARBOUR ISLAND DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER.

17:16:48 THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST TO CHANGE TO THIS DRI IS

17:16:52 REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN ENTITLEMENTS UNDER THE

17:16:56 DEVELOPMENT ORDER TO PERMIT A MAXIMUM OF 150 HOTEL

17:17:00 ROOMS WITH ANCILLARY HOTEL USES AND 160 PARKING

17:17:01 SPACES.

17:17:04 SEEKING TO UPDATE MAP H TO REFLECT INCREASE IN

17:17:08 ENTITLEMENTS OF DETERMINATION DATE OF THE DEVELOPMENT

17:17:12 ORDER TO SEPTEMBER 22 ARE 2024, BASED ON EXTENSIONS

17:17:18 BASED ON THE STATUTORY RIGHT TO EXTEND, BASED ON

17:17:21 DECLARATION OF STATE OF EMERGENCY AND ALSO, IT IS

17:17:24 ASKING TO ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT FOR ANNUAL

17:17:26 REPORTING THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER.

17:17:31 AND SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MISS BARNES TO

17:17:34 GIVE STAFF A PRESENTATION AND HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT

17:17:37 AND HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER

17:17:41 AND NOTICE OF PROPOSED CHANGE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

17:17:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?

17:17:45 THANK YOU, MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ,

17:17:48 >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT.

17:17:50 I THINK STAFF STILL NEEDS TO SWEAR IN.

17:17:52 CAN WE BE SWORN IN, PLEASE.

17:17:54 >>CLERK: [SWEARING IN]

17:18:03 THANK YOU.

17:18:10 >>ANNIE BARNES: THANK YOU, ITEM NUMBER 3 IS REZ-21-52.

17:18:13 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 800 SOUTH HARBOUR

17:18:15 ISLAND BOULEVARD.

17:18:20 THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM PD TO PD.

17:18:21 I WILL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO THE PLANNING

17:18:23 COMMISSION AND AFTER THEIR PRESENTATION, I WILL

17:18:29 CONCLUDE MINE.

17:18:31 >>JENNIFER MALONE: GOOD EVENING, JENNIFER MALONE WITH

17:18:32 THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

17:18:35 PARTICULAR HAVE PERMISSION -- THERE YOU GO -- TO SHARE

17:18:36 MY SCREEN.

17:18:40 SO AS ANNIE ALREADY OPENED UP, THERE IS 21-52.

17:18:44 IT IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT IN

17:18:45 HARBOUR ISLAND.

17:18:50 IT IS WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND

17:18:52 EVACUATION ZONE A.

17:18:56 THE SITE IS SERVED BY TRANSIT .4 MILES AWAY ON WATER

17:18:57 STREET.

17:18:59 AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

17:19:02 WE HAVE -- THIS IS HARBOUR ISLAND.

17:19:05 THERE IS A NUMBER OF HIGH-RISE DEVELOPMENTS RIGHT

17:19:09 ACROSS THE STREET, ACROSS THE AVENUE AND AT THE CORNER

17:19:13 OF KNIGHT'S RUN AND SOUTH BENEFICIAL TO THE EAST OF THE

17:19:16 SITE THE JACKSON AND AMERICAN SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE

17:19:17 NORTH.

17:19:21 THERE IS A HARBOUR ISLAND ATHLETIC CLUB TO THE EAST.

17:19:24 AND A LOT OF -- A LOT OF HOUSE TOGETHER SOUTH OF THE

17:19:27 SUBJECT SITE AND VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING

17:19:32 ATTACHED, DETACHED, AND SOME CONDO, TOWN HOME-STYLE

17:19:32 HOUSING.

17:19:35 OF COURSE WE HAVE WATER STREET DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH

17:19:37 OFF OF THE ISLAND.

17:19:40 SO THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

17:19:44 THE ENTIRE HARBOUR ISLAND IS REGIONAL MIXED USE-100.

17:19:46 AND YOU WILL HEAR A LOT OF THE PLANNING EFFORTS THAT

17:19:50 HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE FOR HARBOUR ISLAND THROUGHOUT

17:19:51 THE YEARS ARE.

17:19:56 THAT THE COMP PLAN DES ANYTHING THAT IT $AS REGIONAL

17:19:57 MIXED USE-100.

17:20:00 AND THE WHOLE ISLAND IS PLANNED FOR HIGH INTENSITY

17:20:01 MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

17:20:04 DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE DEVELOPMENT HAS TO BE MIXED USE

17:20:07 AS I AM SURE YOU ALL KNOW, THAT MEANS A MIX OF USES.

17:20:11 AND WE HAVE SEEN THAT ON HARBOUR ISLAND AS IT IS DIRECT

17:20:14 $THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WITH A MIXTURE OF DIFFERENT TYPE

17:20:17 OF USES LIKE OFFICES, RESIDENTIAL, SOME RESTAURANTS,

17:20:20 ETC.

17:20:22 WE DID FIND THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WAS

17:20:24 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

17:20:29 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT REGULATE HEIGHT AND PRO

17:20:31 STRIDES A GUIDELINES.

17:20:36 IN THE REGIONAL MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL USE CATEGORY,

17:20:39 DEVELOPMENTS CAN BE TYPICALLY UP TO 24 STORIES.

17:20:42 THE HEIGHT OF 12 STORIES WAS FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT

17:20:45 WITH THE PLAN AND FOUND COMPATIBLE WHAT IS DIRECTLY TO

17:20:48 ITS NORTH AND NORTHEAST.

17:20:51 WE ALSO FOUND THAT IT WAS FURTHERING THE MIXED USE

17:20:56 POLICY DIRECTION BY PROVIDING PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE ALONG

17:20:59 KNIGHTS RUN AVENUE THAT CONNECTS TO A PUBLIC SIDEWALK.

17:21:02 WE FOUND THAT THE INTEGRATED PARKING GARAGE THE

17:21:05 APPLICANT SAID SCREENED WITH 80% CAPACITY CONSISTENT

17:21:09 WITH OTHER POLICIES IN THE PLAN OF ARCHITECTURALLY

17:21:11 SCREENING PARKING GARAGES.

17:21:13 I WANT TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE

17:21:17 COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND THE PROPOSED PD IS

17:21:18 COMMERCIAL IN NATURE.

17:21:21 DOES NOT INCREASE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND

17:21:25 THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS NOT SUBJECT TO 1.2.2.

17:21:27 SO OVERALL, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THAT THE

17:21:30 PROPOSED REZONING IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE

17:21:33 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONSISTENT WITH THAT

17:21:37 UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

17:21:41 I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO ANNIE, THANK YOU.

17:21:51 >>ANNIE BARNES: CAN I PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.

17:21:55 AGAIN, BARNS WARNINGS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

17:21:59 FOR 800 SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD.

17:22:06 THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PD TO PD AND A HOTEL WITH

17:22:07 ANCILLARY USES.

17:22:12 THE APPLICATION IS NOT REQUESTING ANY WAIVERS.

17:22:15 HERE IS PART OF THE COMPLETE SITE PLAN PACKAGE SHOWING

17:22:17 THE OVERALL LAYOUT OF THE SITE.

17:22:21 THE PROPOSED REZONING IS FOR 150-ROOM HOTEL.

17:22:25 THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE 158 PARKING SPACES

17:22:30 AND 160 PARKING SPACES ARE BEING PROVIDED.

17:22:33 SHOWN HERE IS ANOTHER AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT

17:22:34 PROPERTY.

17:22:37 A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA

17:22:42 WITH COMMERCIAL USES UP TO THE NORTH.

17:22:46 THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED PD AS WELL.

17:22:51 SHOWN HERE ARE THE NORTH AND EAST ELEVATIONS.

17:22:55 ALSO THE SOUTH AND WEST ELEVATIONS.

17:22:59 THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND PROPERTY EAST

17:23:02 OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

17:23:06 AS WELL AS PROPERTY NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND

17:23:07 NORTHWEST.

17:23:12 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND CLIENT STAFF REVIEWED THE

17:23:15 PETITION CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA

17:23:17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGULATIONS.

17:23:20 SHOULD COUNCIL APPROVE THE REZONING PETITION, FURTHER

17:23:22 MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN MUST BE COMPLETED IN

17:23:25 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE AS

17:23:27 STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET.

17:23:29 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

17:23:31 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

17:23:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

17:23:39 HEARING NONE.

17:23:45 PETITIONER.

17:23:47 MR. SHELBY.

17:23:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

17:23:56 I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH MR. CREMER.

17:24:10 AND THERE ARE SOME -- THERE ARE SOME PROCEDURAL ISSUES

17:24:12 THAT CAME TO LIGHT AND I WAS WONDERING WHETHER PERHAPS

17:24:15 NOW IS THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES.

17:24:19 IF THERE IS A OPPORTUNITY FOR CROSS EXAMINATION, I

17:24:21 WANTED TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.

17:24:25 MR. CREMER, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT NOW OR

17:24:29 DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS COME UP DURING THE HEARING.

17:24:30 >> JAKE CREMER FOR THE RECORD.

17:24:31 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

17:24:34 MR. SHELBY AND I TALKED OF THE POSSIBILITY TO

17:24:37 CROSS-EXAMINE WITNESS IT IS NEEDED.

17:24:42 WHAT WE DISCUSSED IS IF ANY WITNESSES NEED TO BE

17:24:44 CROSS-EXAMINED THAT WILL OCCUR DIRECTLY AFTER THAT

17:24:45 WITNESS SPOKE.

17:24:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE REASON I BRING THAT UP, MR.

17:24:51 CHAIRMAN, IS WE DO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ONLINE.

17:24:55 AND I WOULD ASK THAT THE CLERK KEEP THOSE PEOPLE ONLINE

17:24:58 FOR THE PERIOD AFTERWARDS IN CASE MR. CREMER OR

17:25:02 ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD HAVE STAND WHO YOU WANT TO BE

17:25:04 ABLE TO CROSS-EXAMINE.

17:25:07 AND ALSO, THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE -- IN THE ROOM OR

17:25:11 DOWNSTAIRS WHEN THEY COME UP TO SPEAK, THEY ALSO REMAIN

17:25:14 AFTERWARDS IN CASES THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR

17:25:16 REQUIREMENT FOR CROSS EXAMINATION IN THIS CASE.

17:25:17 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

17:25:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY, IF I MAY ASK.

17:25:22 I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY OF LAW.

17:25:26 IF SOMEBODY IS GIVING A COMMENT, DOES THAT GIVE MR.

17:25:28 CREMER THE RIGHT TO CROSS-EXAMINE.

17:25:32 OR IF SOMEONE IS GIVEN COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL

17:25:32 EVIDENCE.

17:25:35 I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND MY POINT.

17:25:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CREMER WOULD BE TOO, NOT ON

17:25:43 SOMEBODY ELSE'S OPINION, UNLESS THEY WERE AN EXPERT.

17:25:47 >> CORRECT, IF SOMEONE IS AN EXPERT AND NOT PERSONAL

17:25:48 OPINION, YES, SIR.

17:25:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: UNDERSTOOD.

17:25:52 >> MR. CHAIR, JUST ANOTHER MATTER OF HOUSE KEEPING

17:25:53 SINCE THIS IS TWO HEARINGS.

17:25:55 I SEE MY TIMER SAYS 30 MINUTES.

17:25:59 I HOPE TO NOT TAKE THAT MUCH TIME, BUT IS THAT MY TIME

17:26:02 OR INTRODUCTION AND REBUTTAL ALL TOGETHER OR HOW ARE WE

17:26:05 GOING TO KEEP TIME TONIGHT?

17:26:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WILL SHELBY.

17:26:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WAS THAT?

17:26:16 BEING HEARD TOGETHER, I DON'T THINK THE DRI WILL TAKE

17:26:16 THAT MUCH TIME.

17:26:17 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

17:26:19 I THINK I NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME THAN 15 MINUTES.

17:26:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW MUCH TIME ARE YOU REQUESTING?

17:26:25 >> 20 MINUTES DIRECT.

17:26:27 AND 10 MINUTES TOTAL FOR REBUTTAL.

17:26:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I FEEL THAT IS ALL RIGHT.

17:26:32 ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT?

17:26:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY.

17:26:35 THAT IS FINE WITH ME, BUT THE OTHER SIDE -- THE

17:26:43 PETITIONER THEY ARE ALSO ENTITLED TO THE SAME AMOUNT.

17:26:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH YOU, MR.

17:26:47 CREMER?

17:26:49 >> I AM NOT SURE -- I KNOW THERE IS AT LEAST ONE

17:26:50 ATTORNEY HERE IN OPPOSITION.

17:26:53 I AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH TIME THAT THEY HAVE THROUGH

17:26:55 WAIVERS FOR THEIR ASSOCIATION.

17:27:00 SO I AM HAPPY TO GIVE THEM THE TIME THEY NEED.

17:27:03 I THINK WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT --

17:27:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ARE ASKING FOR 20 MINUTES TOTAL?

17:27:08 >> FOR MY INITIAL PRESENTATION, YES, SIR.

17:27:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO THAT.

17:27:11 >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.

17:27:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

17:27:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.

17:27:15 ANY OPPOSED?

17:27:16 THANK YOU.

17:27:19 >> LAST MATTER OF HOUSEKEEPING, MR. CHAIR.

17:27:22 I PRESENTED SOME BINDERS AND ASK THAT THEY BE ENTERED

17:27:23 INTO THE RECORD.

17:27:26 THEY HAVE EXPERT REPORTS AND RESUMES.

17:27:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.

17:27:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

17:27:33 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

17:27:36 ANY OBJECTION?

17:27:37 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

17:27:39 IF WE CAN GO TO THE PRESENTATION PLEASE.

17:27:43 AGAIN, JAKE CREMER WITH STEARNS, WEAVER, MILLER, 401

17:27:44 EAST JACKSON STREET.

17:27:46 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

17:27:49 WE ARE PROPOSING AN AC HOTEL BY MARRIOTT ON HARBOUR

17:27:53 ISLAND AS HEARD BY STAFF.

17:27:57 IT IS TO MIRROR THE CONTEXT OF DOWNTOWN AND HARBOUR

17:27:58 ISLAND.

17:28:01 WE PUT TOGETHER OUR TEAM VERY PURPOSELY, LIBERTY, THE

17:28:04 DEVELOPER, HAS EXPERIENCED DEVELOPING MARRIOTT AND A

17:28:06 HILTON IN DOWNTOWN.

17:28:10 ALL OF THE COMPANIES THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH ALSO HAVE

17:28:13 EXPERIENCE DEVELOPING HOTELS IN DOWNTOWN.

17:28:20 TONIGHT, WE ARE PROPOSING TO REDEVELOP AN OBSOLETE BANK

17:28:23 BUILDING WITH A UPSCALE LIFESTYLE HOTEL.

17:28:26 IN HAS BEEN AN 18-MONTH PROCESS, COUNCIL, AND INVOLVED

17:28:29 MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

17:28:32 REDUCED THE HOTEL FROM 15 TO 12 STORIES TO BE SHORTER

17:28:35 THAN THE ADJACENT OFFICE BUILDING.

17:28:39 WE COMPLETELY REDESIGNED THE HOTEL A FEW MONTHS AGO.

17:28:44 AND ADDED AN ANCILLARY ARTIST GALLERY IN THE CAFE AND

17:28:46 INTEGRATED ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES TO ACTIVATE THE

17:28:49 STREET AND PROTECT THE NEIGHBORS TO MAKE THE STREET

17:28:49 SAFER.

17:28:53 UNLIKE MANY PDS THAT YOU ALL SEE, WE HAVE REMOVED ALL

17:28:55 WAIVERS AND FULLY PARKED THIS BUILDING AT THE REQUEST

17:28:57 OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

17:29:01 AGAIN, WE DID THIS BASED ON COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

17:29:04 SO LET'S JUMP INTO THE CONTEXT.

17:29:07 WE ARE LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HARBOUR ISLAND, AS

17:29:08 STAFF MENTIONED.

17:29:12 THE SITE IS LOCATED ABOUT A BLOCK FROM THE WESTIN HOTEL

17:29:16 WHICH IS ON HARBOUR ISLAND AND NORTH OF THE ATHLETIC

17:29:17 CLUB.

17:29:21 ALSO NORTH OF THE GATES FOR A GATED COMMUNITY ON THE

17:29:23 SOUTH SIDE OF HARBOUR ISLAND THAT YOU SEE IN RED AND

17:29:27 WILL BE IN RED IN THE NEXT SERIES OF SLIDES.

17:29:30 URBAN USES SURROUND THE SITE MAKING IT PRIME FOR

17:29:31 REDEVELOPMENT.

17:29:35 THIS IS REALLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT INTERSECTION ON

17:29:36 HARBOUR ISLAND.

17:29:39 THE BANK BUILDING WAS BUILT 35 YEARS AGO AS THE

17:29:42 ORIGINAL SALES CENTER FOR HARBOR ISLAND.

17:29:45 IT IS OUTDATED AND GOING TO BE REPLACED AT SOME TIME.

17:29:47 THE ONLY QUESTION IS, WHAT?

17:29:49 WHAT WILL BE REPLACING IT.

17:29:54 THEN A SUNTRUST BANK AND THEN AN OFFICE BUILDING.

17:29:57 AS STAFF MENTIONED ALL WITHIN A DRI.

17:30:01 WHAT THAT MEANS THAT ALL OF ISLANDS WAS PLANNED

17:30:06 PURPOSELY BY STAFF, BY THE REGIONAL COUNCIL AND STATE

17:30:07 AGENCIES.

17:30:08 THEY ALL HAD INPUT.

17:30:12 THIS DRI IS WHY WE FILED A COMPANION NOTICE OF PROPOSED

17:30:14 CHANGE.

17:30:16 HARBOUR ISLAND IS THE FIRST MASTER PLAN MIXED USE

17:30:17 COMMUNITY IN TAMPA.

17:30:20 AS PLANNED, USES ARE MIXED THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND AND

17:30:23 NOT NECESSARILY BUILDING BY BUILDING.

17:30:26 FUNCTIONALLY, HARBOUR ISLAND IS AN EXTENSION OF

17:30:27 DOWNTOWN.

17:30:32 IT IS PART OF THE URBAN HEART AND URBAN CORE OF TAMPA.

17:30:35 OVERTIME THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ISLAND BEGAN TO REALIZE

17:30:36 THAT ORIGINAL VISION.

17:30:40 THE SOUTH BEHIND THE GATES DEVELOPED OUT AT MOST LOWER

17:30:42 DENSITIES THAN ORIGINALLY PLANNED.

17:30:47 SO TONIGHT IS REALLY A TALE OF TWO NEIGHBORHOODS.

17:30:49 YOU HAVE THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ISLAND WHERE THE SITE IS

17:30:55 LOCATED WHICH CONSISTS OF COMMERCIAL, HOTEL, OFFICE,

17:30:58 RETAIL AND VERY DENSE RESIDENTIAL.

17:31:01 THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ISLAND BEHIND THE GATES IS MIXED

17:31:02 DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

17:31:07 EVERYTHING FROM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES EIGHT-STORY

17:31:07 RESIDENTIAL.

17:31:12 SOUTH SIDE IS AN EXCLUSIVE GATED ENCLAVE AND NOT OPEN

17:31:14 TO THE PUBLIC.

17:31:17 AS STAFF MENTIONED, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR

17:31:18 BANK AND OFFICE USES.

17:31:20 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ISLAND, THAT

17:31:24 COMMUNITY HAS ITS OWN SERIES OF PDS.

17:31:27 AND THE -- I THINK IT IS SIGNIFICANT THAT THE

17:31:35 BOUNDARIES OF THOSE PDS BASICALLY FOLLOW THE GATES.

17:31:41 FUTURE LAND USE FROM REGULATORY, THE ISLAND HAS THE

17:31:45 MOST INTENSE LANDS USE IN THE CITY OUTSIDE OF CDB.

17:31:47 THE SAME CATEGORY AS CHANNELSIDE.

17:31:49 THAT IS WHERE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

17:31:52 THAT IS THE TRAJECTORY FOR HARBOUR ISLAND.

17:31:58 RMU-100 ALLOWS HIGH RISE UP TO 24 STORIES AND KEEP IN

17:32:00 MIND WE ARE PROPOSING ONLY HALF THAT.

17:32:02 THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOTES THAT WE ARE IN A MIXED

17:32:05 USE CORRIDOR THAT ENCOURAGES TRANSIT AND CLOSE AND

17:32:08 WALKABLE TO THE TROLLEY AND WALKABLE TO THE CONVENTION

17:32:12 CENTER AND WALKABLE TO THE ARENA.

17:32:16 AS YOUR PROVISIONAL STAFF NOTES IN THEIR REPORT, THIS

17:32:18 HOTEL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN AND COMPATIBLE

17:32:19 WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

17:32:23 COMPATIBILITY IS NOT AN EYE OF THE BEHOLDER, COUNCIL.

17:32:26 IT SIMPLY MEANS THAT LAND USES CAN CO-EXIST OVER TIME

17:32:27 WITH EACH OTHER.

17:32:29 THEY WORK TOGETHER OVER TIME.

17:32:35 AND WHAT YOUR EXPERTS AND OURS -- EXPERT REPORT IN YOUR

17:32:37 BINDER WHAT THEY HAVE SAID THAT IS HAPPENING IN HARBOUR

17:32:41 ISLAND NOW WITH THE USES THAT ARE, THERE THAT ARE

17:32:44 PLANS, HOTELS, COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, HIGH AND LOW

17:32:45 DENSITY.

17:32:48 WHAT THIS GRAPHIC ILLUSTRATES JUST THAT THAT THIS

17:32:50 BUILDING'S HEIGHT IS APPROPRIATE.

17:32:54 OVERALL, THERE ARE BUILDINGS TALLER THAN THIS PROJECT.

17:32:57 AND THERE ARE SEVEN BUILDINGS BETWEEN SEVEN AND 12

17:33:00 STORIES IN THE SAME RANGE OF THIS BUILDING.

17:33:02 INCLUDES TWO BUILDINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SOUTH OF THE

17:33:03 GATE.

17:33:07 WHAT YOU WILL ALSO NOTE ON OUR SITE BLUE AND GREEN AS

17:33:10 OUR ARCHITECT WILL EXPLAIN.

17:33:12 THE BLUE IS THE TALLER PORTION OF THE BUILDING AS YOU

17:33:15 SEE IS PUSHED UP TOWARD THE MORE DENSE PART OF THE

17:33:18 ISLAND AND THE GREEN, THE BUILDING STEPS DOWN WHICH IS

17:33:22 FACING THE LESS DENSE -- LESS INTENSE PART OF THE

17:33:27 ISLAND.

17:33:29 NOW THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE ISLAND SOUTH OF THIS

17:33:32 BUILDING ALLOWS FOR BUILDINGS THAT ARE TALLER -- THE

17:33:36 ZONING ALLOWS FOR BUILDINGS UP TO 158 FEET AS OPPOSED

17:33:39 TO OUR 145.

17:33:43 SO THIS SHOWS -- THIS HELPS EMPHASIZE THE COMPATIBILITY

17:33:45 PICTURE.

17:33:49 IN READ THE EIGHT-STORY MULTIFAMILY IN THE SOUTH

17:33:49 NEIGHBORHOOD.

17:33:54 AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ARE VERY CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL.

17:34:00 140 FEET FROM SINGLE-FAMILY AND 132 FEET MULTIFAMILY.

17:34:04 THE HOTEL IS MUCH FURTHER AWAY 541 FEET FROM

17:34:06 SINGLE-FAMILY.

17:34:09 NOW AS I MENTIONED, WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

17:34:13 PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST ROBUST COMMUNITY OUTREACH HE

17:34:15 BEEN INVOLVED IN A NUMBER OF YEARS ESPECIALLY WITH

17:34:16 COVID.

17:34:18 WE WORKED VERY HARD.

17:34:22 WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE MASTER ASSOCIATION HIX A.

17:34:27 WE HAD A PA MEETING WITH THE GROUP BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD

17:34:29 ASSOCIATION AND HAD A VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEETING IN

17:34:32 JANUARY AND A IN-PERSON COMMUNITY MEETING THAT YOU SEE

17:34:34 THE PICTURES OF HERE IN APRIL.

17:34:36 AFTER THE FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING, WE COMPLETELY

17:34:38 DESIGNED THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

17:34:42 BY THAT, WE LITERALLY START ED WITH SQUARE ONE.

17:34:45 WE THREW OUT THE PLANS BASED ON THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK

17:34:47 WE RECEIVED AND REDESIGNED THE ENTIRE PROJECT

17:34:51 INSIDE-OUT ALL THE WAY TO THE SITE PLAN.

17:34:54 UNTER I DON'T REMEMBER, EXTERIOR, EVERYTHING.

17:34:57 THESE ARE JUST -- REALLY THE TOP TEN CHANGES.

17:35:04 WE REDUCED THE FLOOR AREA RATIO, REDUCED THE BUILDING'S

17:35:05 SQUARE FOOTAGE.

17:35:08 REDUCED THE NUMBER OF GUEST ROOMS.

17:35:11 ELIMINATED ALL WAIVERS AND DESIGNED THE EXTERIOR AGAIN.

17:35:15 COMPLETELY ENCLOSED THE LOADING ZONE AND THE TRASH

17:35:16 COMPACTOR.

17:35:22 RETAINED THE HARBOUR ISLAND SIGNAGE AND ANNOUNCED A

17:35:25 HOTEL FLAG SO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE

17:35:26 GOING TO GET.

17:35:30 THEN WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL IN-PERSON COMMUNITY

17:35:32 MEETING LAST MONTH.

17:35:35 AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE TOOK THAT FEEDBACK AND TOOK

17:35:37 THREE STEPS.

17:35:41 THE FIRST IS WE HEARD A CONCERN THAT THE HOTEL RIGHT BE

17:35:44 OPEN TO PARKING BECAUSE IT IS A LITTLE BIT OVERPARKED.

17:35:49 THAT THE HOTEL MAY BE OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR

17:35:49 PARKING.

17:35:53 AND BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING THAT PARK ALSO NOT

17:35:56 BE OPEN FOR A GENERAL PUBLIC.

17:35:59 SECOND CONCERN WE HAD IS PEOPLE ASKING FOR A LITTLE

17:36:00 MORE ACTIVATION OF THE GROUND FLOOR.

17:36:04 SO WHAT -- WHAT WE AGREED TO DO, WHAT WE HAVE COME UP

17:36:08 WITH IS INTEGRATE AN ARTIST GALLERY INTO THE FIRST

17:36:11 FLOOR LOBBY AND SPACES TO INTRODUCE TRAVELERS TO

17:36:12 TAMPA'S ART SCENE.

17:36:17 SO THAT THE SPACE CAN REALLY BE SORT OF AN INTIMATE

17:36:19 GATHERING SPACE.

17:36:22 COFFEE HOURS, NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND SO ON.

17:36:24 THE THIRD THING WE DID, WE HEARD CONCERNS OF TRAFFIC

17:36:28 FLOWS OFF OF THE ISLAND DURING SPECIAL EVENTS, LIKE

17:36:29 TONIGHT, RIGHT.

17:36:33 AND SO WHAT WE DID, IT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM THAT WE

17:36:34 DIDN'T CREATE IT.

17:36:38 BUT WE WENT TO TAMPA -- THE CITY OF TAMPA'S MOBILITY

17:36:41 STAFF AND HAD A CONVERSATION IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN

17:36:43 TO DO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE PROGRESS ON THIS.

17:36:46 WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THAT YOUR STAFF IS ACTUALLY AHEAD

17:36:47 OF THE GAME.

17:36:49 THEY COMMISSIONED THE REPORT.

17:36:52 THE REPORT HAS DONE AND THEY ARE ANALYZING IT.

17:36:54 THE REPORT GIVES A DOZEN POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS TO THE

17:36:58 FRANKLIN STREET, HARBOUR ISLAND CORRIDOR.

17:37:00 PHYSICAL THINGS THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE DONE TO IMPROVE

17:37:01 THAT SITUATION.

17:37:05 MOBILITY STAFF AGREED THEY WILL THEY WILL LOOK AT THE

17:37:09 TIMING OF LIGHTS IN THE FRANKLIN STREET CORRIDOR TO SEE

17:37:12 IF THAT COULD HELP THE SITUATION DURING SPECIAL EVENTS.

17:37:14 WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER

17:37:17 TO OUR ARCHITECT TO EXPLAIN THE CONTEXT OF THE BUILDING

17:37:19 AND SHOW YOU THE DESIGN.

17:37:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.

17:37:23 SINCE MR. CREMER IS GOING TO SWITCH OVER AND SWITCH

17:37:27 GEARS, LET ME ASK A QUESTION.

17:37:28 >> YES, SIR.

17:37:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU SAID THE HOTEL WILL NOT BE OPEN

17:37:31 TO THE PUBLIC.

17:37:34 IF YOU ARE A HOTEL, EXPLAIN THAT TO ME.

17:37:37 THE HOTEL IS NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

17:37:38 HOW DOES THAT WORK?

17:37:42 >> THE SPECIFIC CONCERN WE HEARD WAS THAT WHAT IF -- IF

17:37:46 THE PARKING IS JUST OPEN TO ANYONE, PEOPLE WHO MAY

17:37:49 WANT TO COME DOWN TO HARBOUR ISLAND AND CAN'T FIND

17:37:54 PARKING OTHERWISE MAY PARK IN THE BUILDING.

17:37:57 AND THE CONCERN WE HEARD WAS THAT, HEY, IF YOU WERE

17:37:59 GOING TO BE A HOTEL, IT SHOULD BE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO

17:38:02 HAVE A PURPOSE OF BEING THERE IN THAT SPACE.

17:38:06 AND SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THE PARKING IS --

17:38:07 YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE A PURPOSE.

17:38:10 YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE A REASON OF BEING IN THE BUILDING

17:38:14 OR BEING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROPERTY.

17:38:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM JUST WONDERING HOW YOU ARE GOING

17:38:19 TO CONTROL THAT.

17:38:25 >> THE PARK ALSO BE VALET SERVICE.

17:38:27 GUDES MR. CREMER, CONTINUE SIR.

17:38:30 >> THE PARK ALSO BE VALET.

17:38:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

17:38:34 >> IF WE CAN GO BACK TO OUR PRESENTATION, OUR ARCHITECT

17:38:36 WILL USE THE PRESENTATION.

17:38:42 THANK YOU.

17:38:44 >> THANK YOU, JAKE.

17:38:49 MY NAME IS MICKEY JACOBS WITH MIDWOOD HILL ARCHITECT

17:38:51 AND THE DESIGN ARCHITECT FOR THE RECORD AND I HAVE BEEN

17:38:53 SWORN IN.

17:38:55 I WOULD LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HOTEL.

17:38:57 WE DESIGNED IT.

17:38:59 WE ARE VERY PROUD OF IT.

17:39:02 WE HAVE THE ARCHITECTURAL SITE PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU.

17:39:04 I WANT TO START WITH THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THE

17:39:07 COMMUNITY INTERACTS WITH THE BUILDING THE MOST ON THE

17:39:08 STREETSCAPE.

17:39:11 WE HAVE TAKEN GREAT CARE IN LOOKING HOW THE STREETSCAPE

17:39:14 EFFECTS IS GOING ON AROUND THE COMMUNITY.

17:39:17 I WANT TO POINT OUT FOUR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT I THINK

17:39:19 ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.

17:39:23 ONE IS THE SIDEWALK AREA THAT WE ARE CREATED.

17:39:24 INTERACTIVE WIDE AREA.

17:39:26 WELL LIT.

17:39:28 CANOPIES FROM THE BUILDING.

17:39:29 AREAS FOR GATHERING.

17:39:32 AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED HOW THAT CONNECTS BOTH DOWN TO

17:39:34 THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD AND BACK INTO THE NORTH

17:39:38 NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THERE IS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

17:39:42 SECONDLY, WE HAVE CREATED A PORTE COCHERE VALET PARKING

17:39:44 SO THE CAR ALSO COME IN.

17:39:48 THE GUESTS WILL COME IN BY AUTO OFF OF KNIGHT'S RUN

17:39:52 AVENUE AND TURN INTO A COVERED PORTE COCHERE AREA THAT

17:39:56 IS UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING CANOPY SO THE CARS HAVE

17:39:58 PRIVACY.

17:40:02 THE CARS ARE OUT OF VIEW AND SAFER AND OUT OF THE

17:40:04 ELEMENT OF THE GUESTS ARRIVING AT THE HOTEL.

17:40:08 THIRDLY, TAKING THE LOADING BERTHS AND LOADING DOCKS

17:40:11 AND MOVED THEM BACK INTO THE BUILDING SUBSTANTIALLY SO

17:40:14 THAT ANY DELIVERIES COMING IN THERE WILL BE DONE

17:40:17 UNDERNEATH THE CANOPY OF THE BUILDING.

17:40:20 NO TRUCKS WILL BE STICKING OUT WITH PUBLIC VIEW AND A

17:40:23 ROLLING DOOR IN FRONT OF IT WHEN IT IS NOT IN USE.

17:40:28 LASTLY AS JAKE MENTION, HOW WE REPURPOSED THE GROUND

17:40:31 FLOOR SPACE AND THE COMMUNITY WILL BE INVITED IN TO THE

17:40:32 SPACE ITSELF.

17:40:35 AS WE CONTINUE TO PROGRAM THAT SPACE.

17:40:38 I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE YOU FOR A WALK AROUND THE BUILDING

17:40:38 NOW.

17:40:42 THIS IS THE NORTH ELEVATION OFF OF KNIGHT'S RUN AVENUE.

17:40:46 THE BUILDING IS 145 FEET AT 12 STORIES.

17:40:49 A GROUND-FLOOR ACTIVATED SPACE, PUBLIC SPACE.

17:40:52 FOUR STORIES OF PARKING.

17:40:56 ONE STORY ABOVE OF AMENITY SPACE WHICH IS POOL.

17:40:58 AND SIX FLOORS OF GUEST ROOMS.

17:41:01 THE MATERIALS WILL BE A LOT OF THE MATERIALS YOU FIND

17:41:03 ALREADY IN HARBOUR ISLAND.

17:41:07 PRECAST PANELS, METAL PANELS, STONE AND A LOT OF GLASS.

17:41:12 BECAUSE TRANSPARENCY AT THIS HO-ZUHARS TELL IS

17:41:14 SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING FOR BEING CONNECTED WITH THE

17:41:17 COMMUNITY BOTH LIGHT IN AND OUT.

17:41:22 ON THE FRONT, CREATED AN ENTRANCE PORTICO WHICH DEFINES

17:41:25 THE PUBLIC INPUT INTO THE BUILDING ITSELF, DIRECTLY

17:41:27 INTO THE SITE.

17:41:29 AS WE MOVE UP A BIT FROM THE VIEW FROM THE NORTHWEST

17:41:33 CORNER WE WANT TO POINT OUT HOW THE PUBLIC SPACE ON THE

17:41:33 SIDEWALK WORKS.

17:41:36 YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BITTER BEYOND THE WORDS THAT

17:41:37 ARE ON THE SCREEN.

17:41:39 HOWEVER, IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO DO

17:41:42 WITH THAT, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CREATE

17:41:45 OPPORTUNITIES AND PROMOTE UNINTENDED SOCIAL COLLISIONS

17:41:48 THAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU ARE OUT WALKING IN THE

17:41:50 NEIGHBORHOOD, AND BEING AN AREA THAT IS WIDE AND AREA

17:41:54 THAT IS WELL LIT, AN AREA THAT HAS A LOT OF SPACE.

17:41:58 WE BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL PROMOTE THAT.

17:42:01 AS WE DRAW CLOSE NEITHER BUILDING LOOKING FROM THE STOP

17:42:05 SIGN AT KNIGHT'S RUN IN SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD,

17:42:09 I WANTED TO POINT OUT THE VERTICAL ELEMENT AT THE

17:42:12 CORNER OF THE BUILDING WHICH IS THE ARCHITECTURAL ICON.

17:42:17 WE WANT THAT BE THE BEACON THAT WILL BE RECOGNIZABLE.

17:42:21 AT NIGHT SUBTLELY LIT AND REPRESENTS WHAT IS A LOVELY

17:42:24 ARCHITECTURAL ICON THAT WILL BE RECOGNIZABLE NOR THE

17:42:27 BUILDING AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF.

17:42:30 ADDITIONALLY WE ARE ADDING UNIQUE SPACES LIKE THIS ONE

17:42:32 ABOVE THE MAIN ENTRY FROM THE PEDESTRIAN.

17:42:35 AN OUTDOOR CAFE SPACE.

17:42:38 IT WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ANYBODY WILL BE ABLE TO

17:42:41 GO IN THERE AND GET A COOL DRINK AND COCKTAIL AND SIT

17:42:45 OUTSIDE ON THIS BALCONY SPACE AND ENJOY THE ELEMENTS

17:42:48 AND VIEWS IN THIS WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.

17:42:51 AS WE MOVE AROUND TO THE EAST SIDE ELEVATION, ONE OF

17:42:54 THE THINGS WE REALLY TRIED TO KEY ON WAS A VARIETY OF

17:42:57 DEPTHS ON THE ELEVATION TO CREATE VIRTUAL INTEREST IN

17:42:59 UNIQUE SHADOWS.

17:43:03 WE DID NOT WANT TO HAVE A FLAT BUILDING, BUT ONE THAT

17:43:07 IS REALLY UNIQUE WHAT IS GOING ON HARBOUR ISLAND AT

17:43:08 THIS POINT IN TIME.

17:43:13 CREATED AN ENTRY PORTICO WHERE WE HAVE A MAIN

17:43:14 ENTRANCE.

17:43:20 ABOVE THAT PORTICO, WE WILL COMMIT DOING PUBLIC HA ART

17:43:22 TO SUPPORT THE CITY OF TAMPA PUBLIC ARTS PROGRAM.

17:43:26 AS WE MOVE OUT A LITTLE BIT FROM IT, WE CAN SEE THE

17:43:28 GUEST ENTRY OFF OF KNIGHT'S RUN.

17:43:32 IT GOES INTO AN OPENING THAT IS -- WITH CANOPIES OVER

17:43:35 TOP OF IT WHERE THE VEHICLES GO UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING

17:43:36 ITSELF.

17:43:38 ALSO WE ADDED A NUMBER OF TREES DOWN IN THE PEDESTRIAN

17:43:42 AREA AND AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING FOR MORE

17:43:45 SHADED OPPORTUNITIES WHERE PEDESTRIANS ARE GOING.

17:43:47 AS WE CLOSE IN CLOSER ON THAT.

17:43:49 WE CAN SEE WHERE WE COME INTO THE VALET.

17:43:52 THAT AREA OF THE BUILDING IS COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT

17:43:54 WITH GLASS.

17:43:56 IN AND OUT.

17:43:59 SEE IN, SEE OUT WITH IT AT ALL TIMES THAT MAKES IT A

17:44:01 LOT EASIER FOR GUESTS.

17:44:04 BUT TO THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE UNDERNEATH THE PUBLIC ART

17:44:06 A LARGE CANOPY.

17:44:09 THE CANOPY FOR RIDE SHARES.

17:44:12 WE THOUGHT CIRCULATION ON THE SITE SO PEOPLE CAN WALK

17:44:16 ACROSS THE VALET AREA AND DIRECTLY INTO THEIR RIDE

17:44:19 SHARE WHICH IS ALSO OVER COVER FROM THE ELEMENTS.

17:44:22 AS WE GO TO THE SOUTH ELEVATION, THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE

17:44:25 THE ENTRY INTO THE LOADING DOCK AREA.

17:44:29 AS MENTIONED THE LOADING DOCK -- THE FRONT OF THE

17:44:31 LOADING DOCK IS SUBSTANTIALLY SUCH WAITED UNDERNEATH

17:44:35 THE BUILDING ITSELF AND WE WANTED TO DO THAT TO KEEP

17:44:38 EVERYTHING OUT OF VIEW OF ANY KIND OF DELIVERY

17:44:38 VEHICLES.

17:44:43 ADDITIONALLY, AS YOU CAN DOWN ON THE CORNER DOWN TO

17:44:46 THAT ON THE LEFT, ALL -- ANY VEHICLES COMING IN THERE

17:44:49 WILL DO THE MANUEVERING WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF THE

17:44:51 SITE WITH US AND ADJACENTLY TO THE HARBOUR ISLAND

17:44:54 ATHLETIC CLUB.

17:44:58 ALSO WE WILL HAVE A COMMERCIAL COMPACTOR IN THERE THAT

17:45:03 WILL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF REQUIRED VISITS OF SOLID

17:45:04 WASTE VEHICLES.

17:45:07 AS WE MOVE TO THE WEST ELEVATION, THIS IS THE ELEVATION

17:45:09 THAT WILL PROBABLY BE MOST USED BY THE RESIDENTIAL

17:45:12 NEIGHBORHOOD.

17:45:17 WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT HOW WE DO VERTICAL

17:45:21 TRANSPARENCY HERE WITH HORIZONTAL ELEMENTS WITHIN THAT

17:45:24 ITSELF AND REALLY CREATE A NEIGHBORHOOD AND I HAVE BEEN

17:45:26 TOLD I HAVE GOT TO GO FAPS ER.

17:45:28 SO YOU CAN SEE HERE HOW TO WORKS.

17:45:32 THE OTHER THING TOO AS JAKE HAD MENTIONED THE VERTICAL

17:45:34 ELEMENTS WITH THE HIGHEST ELEMENTS FACE THE HIGH

17:45:37 DENSITY HIGH RISE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WE STEP THE

17:45:39 BUILDING BACK DOWN.

17:45:43 AND HERE IS VIEW OF THAT AS WE WILL SEE FROM THE

17:45:46 STREETSCAPE ITSELF.

17:45:47 OUR POOL AREA.

17:45:50 WE SCREENED THE POOL ON THE SOUTH SIDE TOWARD THE

17:45:53 NEIGHBORHOOD AND CREATED A VISTA FOR LOOKING AT GREAT

17:45:55 SUNSETS.

17:45:56 OUR AMENITIES.

17:46:01 WE WILL DO HIGH-END DESIGN USING OTHER AC HOTELS AS

17:46:03 EXAMPLES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

17:46:06 THIS WILL BE A HIGH -- VERY HIGH-SCALE ELEGANT HOTEL.

17:46:09 NOT MEANT BE TOO BEACH HOTEL.

17:46:12 SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO THAT REALLY ELEVATES THE WHOLE

17:46:13 NEIGHBORHOOD.

17:46:15 YOU CAN SEE AS WE DROPPED THE BUILDING INTO THE

17:46:19 NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF, THE SCALE WHERE IT IS WITH THE

17:46:20 ADJACENT BUILDINGS.

17:46:22 YOU CAN SEE HOW THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING FACES ON TO

17:46:26 THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING ITSELF.

17:46:29 AND GIVES YOU AN IDEA ON THE L-SHAPE OF THE BUILDING

17:46:31 HOW IT STEPS BACK DOWN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

17:46:34 THE 12 STORIES FACE OUT INTO THE HIGH DENSITY AREA

17:46:38 ITSELF AND THE REST OF THE BUILDING STEPS DOWN AS GOOD

17:46:44 URBAN DESIGN PRINCIPLES DICTATE IN MIXED USE AREAS.

17:46:46 AGAIN FROM THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, THE LOWER

17:46:50 PORTION OF THE PARKING GARAGE STEPS DOWN ALONG THAT

17:46:52 NEIGHBORHOOD ALONG SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD.

17:46:55 AND THEN FINALLY, HOW THE BUILDING -- THE SCALE OF IT

17:46:59 AND THE MASSING COMPARES TO THE BUILDINGS' ADJACENT TO

17:47:02 IT ON KNIGHT'S RUN ITSELF.

17:47:04 AS PART OF THE MIXED USE AREA.

17:47:07 IN BUILDING AND MASSIVE SCALE STEPS BACK INTO THE

17:47:10 RESIDENTIAL AREA AND WE ARE TRYING HARD IN TERMS OF

17:47:12 DESIGNING THIS IN A MEANS OF WHICH WE WOULD REALLY

17:47:13 RESPECT THAT.

17:47:18 AND FINALLY, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE CREATED THAT BEACON

17:47:23 WHICH WE THINK IS ELEGANT AND AN IMPORTANT PROJECT.

17:47:26 BECAUSE THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND LIVE ON HARBOUR

17:47:26 ISLAND.

17:47:30 SO WE ARE VERY DEDICATED OUR ENTIRE TEAM AND OUR DESIGN

17:47:34 TEAM TO DESIGN AN ICONIC, ELEGANT SUSTAINABLE BUILDING

17:47:38 THAT WILL ENHANCE THE URBAN EXPERIENCE ON THE ISLAND.

17:47:39 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

17:47:43 THANK YOU.

17:47:45 >> GOOD EVENING, ANDY COHEN.

17:47:47 COHEN AND COMPANY.

17:47:48 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

17:47:51 WE PREPARED THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS FOR THE STUDY

17:47:53 CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY OF

17:47:57 TAMPA AND THOROUGHLY APPROVED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY

17:47:58 OF TAMPA TRANSPORTATION STAFF.

17:48:00 THE IMPORTANT FEATURE OUT YOU HAVE THIS PARTICULAR

17:48:04 TRAFFIC STUDY THIS HOTEL DID NOT CHANGE A SINGLE LEVEL

17:48:07 OF SERVICE OF ANY OF THE INTERSECTIONS WE REVIEWED.

17:48:10 AT HARBOUR ISLAND AND KNIGHT'S RUN.

17:48:13 LEVEL SERVICE B IN THE MORNING AND LEVEL B WITH THE

17:48:14 HOTEL ADDED.

17:48:17 IN THE AFTERNOON LEVEL OF SERVICE C IN THE MORNING AND

17:48:22 C IN THE AFTERNOON WITH THE HOTEL ADDS $IN 2024.

17:48:26 BOTH THE DRIVEWAYS SHADE WITH THE ATHLETIC OPERATE

17:48:29 LEVEL OF SERVICE A TODAY AND IN THE FUTURE WITH OR

17:48:30 WITHOUT THIS PROJECT.

17:48:32 THIS PROJECT DOES NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT TRANSPORTATION

17:48:33 IMPACT.

17:48:36 THAT DOES NOT SAY THAT HARBOUR ISLAND DOESN'T HAVE AND

17:48:39 SUFFER FROM CONGESTION OF TRAFFIC ON THE OTHER SIDE OF

17:48:42 THE BRIDGE WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER AND ARENA AS

17:48:45 THEIR SPECIAL EVENT AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.

17:48:47 THANK YOU.

17:48:50 >> THANK YOU, JAKE CREMER, AGAIN.

17:48:51 CAN WE GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION?

17:48:54 COUNCIL, I WILL JUST LEAVE WITH YOU PARTING THOUGHTS.

17:48:56 YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE WORKED REALLY HARD.

17:48:59 WE HAD A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

17:49:00 WE HAD INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS.

17:49:03 WE REALLY TALKED ACROSS THE COMMUNITY.

17:49:06 THIS CHART SHOWS YOU, THIS IS WHAT YOU DEL US EVERY

17:49:07 TIME WE COME TO YOU.

17:49:11 THIS IS WHY WE TOOK CONTINUANCE, TOOK A PAUSE.

17:49:15 REDESIGNED THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND BROUGHT SOMETHING TO

17:49:17 YOU THAT WE HOPE YOU WILL BE PROUD OF.

17:49:19 WITH THAT, ANSWER THE QUESTIONS NOW AND LATER OPINION.

17:49:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?

17:49:27 >> THANK YOU.

17:49:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME, MR. CREMER.

17:49:35 >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE -- ONE OF THE

17:49:42 SLIDES THAT SHOWS THE INGRESS-EGRESS.

17:49:45 I AM JUST TRYING -- BECAUSE -- YOUR TRAFFIC PERSON

17:49:48 MENTIONED THAT IT WAS A SHARED DRIVEWAY WITH THE

17:49:52 ATHLETIC CLUB.

17:49:56 I -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT -- I GUESS I DON'T NO KNOW WHAT

17:49:57 I MEANS.

17:50:00 I DROVE AROUND IN THAT AREA, LIKE I SAID, TODAY.

17:50:02 >> I WILL LET RANDY EXPLAIN.

17:50:03 >> YES, MA'AM.

17:50:07 IF WE CAN HAVE THE EXHIBIT UP.

17:50:10 THE HARBOUR ISLAND DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS THE ONE ON THE

17:50:14 LOWER LEFT OF THE SCREEN, IS A DRIVEWAY THAT SERVICES

17:50:17 THE HARBOUR ISLAND ATHLETIC CLUB AND BANK PROPERTY AS

17:50:21 IT EXISTS TODAY WHICH WILL BE THE HOTEL IN THE FUTURE.

17:50:24 AN EASEMENT BETWEEN THOSE TWO PARTIES ALLOWING BOTH OF

17:50:25 THEM TO USE THAT DRIVEWAY.

17:50:29 THE SAME IS TRUE FOR THE DRIVEWAY IN THE UPPER

17:50:31 RIGHT-HAND CORNER OF THE SITE WHICH IS A SHARED

17:50:33 DRIVEWAY BETWEEN THOSE TWO.

17:50:34 THEY EXIST TODAY.

17:50:35 WE WILL NOT CHANGE THEM.

17:50:38 HE WILL BE USED BY EVERYONE.

17:50:38 >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.

17:50:40 THAT CLARIFIES IT.

17:50:42 >> THANK YOU.

17:50:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. GUDES.

17:50:46 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

17:50:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY MEETINGS WERE HELD FOR THIS

17:50:50 PROJECT?

17:50:53 >> WE WILL ONE VIRTUAL AND ONE IN PERSON.

17:50:57 WE HELD INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH A TASK FORCE THAT

17:50:59 CONSISTED TO THE BOARD OF THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD

17:51:00 ASSOCIATION.

17:51:04 WE ALSO GAVE A PRESENTATION TO THE HIXSA BOARD THE

17:51:09 MASTER FACILITIES ASSOCIATION FOR THE ISLAND.

17:51:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. GUDES AND COUNCIL, JUST A

17:51:16 REMINDER NO REQUIREMENT IN THE CODE WITH REGARDS TO THE

17:51:19 COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND BASICALLY YOU WILL HAVE TO BASE

17:51:22 YOUR EVIDENCE -- EXCUSE ME YOUR DECISION ON THE

17:51:25 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AT THE HEARINGS AND THE

17:51:28 CRITERIA OF THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS WOULD NOT BE

17:51:30 RELEVANT FOR THAT.

17:51:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.

17:51:34 I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS INVOLVED

17:51:36 IN THE PROCESS.

17:51:39 >> IN YOUR BINDER, THE LAST ITEM HAS A SUMMARY OF THOSE

17:51:42 COMMUNITY MEETING, WHAT HAPPENED, THE COMMENTS WE

17:51:44 RECEIVED, THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT WENT OUT.

17:51:48 THAT IS THERE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT.

17:51:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

17:51:50 [INAUDIBLE]

17:51:56 WHEN WAS HARBOUR ISLAND DEVELOPED?

17:51:58 >> WHEN WAS HARBOUR ISLAND DEVELOPED?

17:52:01 I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE PLANNER COME UP AND ANSWER THE

17:52:03 QUESTION ON THE PLANNING SIDE.

17:52:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE NEXT PART OF THE QUESTION, WHEN

17:52:07 THE DRI WAS PUT IN.

17:52:09 TWO THINGS.

17:52:12 I NEED CLARITY TO SEE IF I WAS HERE.

17:52:17 >> HELLO, CYNTHIA SPIDEL, STEARNS, WEAVER AND I HAVE

17:52:18 BEEN WORN.

17:52:22 THE ORIGINAL DRI WAS APPROVED FEBRUARY -- 40 YEARS AGO.

17:52:25 TURNED 40 YEARS AGO FEBRUARY 2022.

17:52:27 I GUESS THAT IS 1982.

17:52:33 >> THANK YOU FOR CALLING ME 40 YEARS OLD.

17:52:37 I NEED A DATE 1970 --

17:52:39 >> IT STARTED IN 1982.

17:52:43 AND THERE IS -- IN THE PLANNING REPORT IS IN YOUR

17:52:47 BINDER, HISTORICAL AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS THAT CAN SHOW YOU

17:52:51 THE EVOLUTION OF HARBOUR ISLAND OVER THAT 40-YEAR

17:52:52 PERIOD.

17:52:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF WE FIND IT HERE, WE WILL BE HERE

17:53:00 FOR TWO MONTHS BECAUSE A BIG FOLDER YOU GAVE IT.

17:53:07 >> POLICE SPIDELL'S REPORT IS ITEM L AS IN LARRY, IN

17:53:13 YOUR BINDER.

17:53:14 >> EXHIBIT A.

17:53:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

17:53:18 >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION WHEN

17:53:22 HARBOUR ISLAND WAS CREATED.

17:53:26 >> SEDON ISLAND AND DRI WAS APPROVED AND THEN BECAME

17:53:28 HARBOUR ISLAND.

17:53:31 A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT GENERALLY THE

17:53:32 BUILD-OUTS ARE 30 YEARS.

17:53:34 YOU START OUT.

17:53:38 THAT IS THE REASON WE SEE IT EVOLVE SIGNIFICANTLY OVER

17:53:41 TIME BECAUSE EXTREMELY LARGE DEVELOPMENTS.

17:53:42 178 ACRES.

17:53:45 DOES NOT DEVELOP OVERNIGHT AND IT IS A PROCESS.

17:53:48 THAT IS WHY THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT REVIEW

17:53:52 PROCESS WAS INITIALLY ADOPTED BY THE STATE SO THAT YOU

17:53:55 WOULD HAVE THIS REGIONAL COORDINATION FOR THE REGIONAL

17:53:58 IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

17:54:03 AND I BELIEVE THE -- WERE YOU THE ORIGINAL PLANNER ON

17:54:04 IT?

17:54:09 THE ORIGINAL PLANNER IS HERE.

17:54:11 I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY

17:54:14 HAVE.

17:54:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

17:54:26 ALL RIGHT, ARE WE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME?

17:54:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT -- BECAUSE WE

17:54:32 OPENED THE TWO ITEMS TOGETHER, THERE ARE SPEAKERS --

17:54:35 THERE ARE SPEAKS FOR ITEMS -- THERE ARE -- SPEAKS

17:54:38 PERHAPS FOR THIS AND ALSO FOR ITEM NUMBER 3.

17:54:42 BUT WE WILL BE COMBINING THOSE TWO.

17:54:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SHALL WE HEAR THE SPEAKERS FOR THE

17:54:54 FIRST ITEM FIRST FOR COMBINE BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER?

17:54:56 >> MR. CHAIR, JAKE CREMER, THE APPLICANT.

17:55:03 I WOULD SUGGEST WE HEAR BOTH BECAUSE COMBINE BECAUSE IT

17:55:06 WILL BE CONFUSING FOR THE PUBLIC.

17:55:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT WE ONLY

17:55:11 HEARD ONE SIDE NUMBER 2.

17:55:15 HOW CAN WE HEAR 3 WITHOUT HEARING 2.

17:55:20 WE ONLY HEARD TESTIMONY ON ITEM NUMBER 2, AM I CORRECT?

17:55:22 I AM NOT CHALLENGING ANYTHING.

17:55:23 >> JAKE CREMER AGAIN.

17:55:25 I THOUGHT THE INTENT WHEN WE OPENED THE HEARING WE

17:55:27 OPENED IT FOR BOTH ITEMS.

17:55:35 AND THAT WE GAVE OUR PRESENTATION FOR BOTH ITEMS JUST

17:55:41 NOW MY SUGGESTION OF MR. SHELBY'S OPINION AND MISS

17:55:45 JOHNSON-VELEZ, THAT WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON BOTH

17:55:48 AND VOTE ON THEM SEPARATELY.

17:55:50 MISS MANDELL.

17:55:54 >> GOOD EVENING, JULIA MANDELL WITH THE LAW FIRM OF GRAY

17:55:58 ROBINSON, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.

17:56:01 I DO HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.

17:56:07 SOME OF THE FOLKS ON THE SPEAKER WAIVER FORM -- I SEE A

17:56:10 COUPLE OF THEM DOWNSTAIRS BECAUSE OF SPACE.

17:56:15 PERHAPS WE CAN LET THEM IN AND GET THAT PROCEDURALLY

17:56:19 TAKEN CARE OF AND THEY CAN FIND A COMFORTABLE LOCATION

17:56:22 FOR THEM TO SIT AGAIN.

17:56:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PATTY KAMPSEN.

17:56:28 [INAUDIBLE]

17:56:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

17:56:37 PAMELA ELOPULOS.

17:56:41 ARE YOU ALSO REGISTERED TO SPEAK?

17:56:42 [INAUDIBLE]

17:56:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE WAITING THAT ONE.

17:56:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTED, MR. SHELBY.

17:56:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PAMELA LOWE.

17:56:52 >> YES, RIGHT HERE, SIR.

17:56:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BRENDA SCHWARZKOPF.

17:57:03 IS BOB SMITH HERE AND BARB SMITH.

17:57:07 I COUNT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, SIX NAMES.

17:57:09 THAT'S CORRECT?

17:57:11 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

17:57:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIX ADDITIONAL MINUTES.

17:57:21 >> I WOULD ASSUME IF I NEED ADDITIONAL TIME WILL NOT BE

17:57:25 OBJECTIONABLE AND I WANT TO GIVE AS MUCH --

17:57:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL TIME ARE YOU

17:57:28 ASKING FOR?

17:57:30 >> MAYBE UP TO TEN MINUTES FOR MY PRESENTATION.

17:57:32 IF I NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE, I WILL ASK.

17:57:34 BUT I THINK THAT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT.

17:57:37 OFF TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF OTHER SPEAKERS HERE AND I WANT

17:57:41 TO BE COURTEOUS TO EVERYBODY.

17:57:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE AGAIN, I THOUGHT WE SET THAT

17:57:45 PARAMETER IN THE BEGINNING.

17:57:46 >> VERY GOOD.

17:57:46 THANK YOU.

17:57:50 I'M HERE ON BEHALF -- FOR THE RECORD, OF THE SOUTH

17:57:54 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OF HARBOUR ISLAND, THAT AN

17:57:56 AREA THAT MR. CREMER TALKED ABOUT.

17:57:58 AND I WILL GET INTO THAT FURTHER.

17:58:03 AND AS -- AS WE INDICATED, AND I HAVE GIVEN YOU A

17:58:07 MEMORANDUM SETTING FORTH THE ANALYSIS AS WELL AS I GAVE

17:58:10 YOU ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE THROUGH THAT THAT THE SOUTH

17:58:20 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN TONKS THIS REZONING.

17:58:22 I AM STARTING BY SHOWING YOU --

17:58:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS MANDELL, ONE SECOND.

17:58:42 CAN WE HAVE THE ELMO UP, PLEASE.

17:58:44 >> SORRY, I AM OLD SCHOOL.

17:58:52 I USE THE ELMO OR WHATEVER WE ARE CALLING IT NOWADAYS

17:58:53 THANK YOU.

17:59:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

17:59:03 >> VERY GOOD.

17:59:05 AGAIN, YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM A LOT OF FOLKS

17:59:06 TONIGHT.

17:59:09 SOME OF THEM ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AREA.

17:59:11 SOME OF THEM ARE NOT, BUT I THINK WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO

17:59:18 HEAR IS A LOT OF FRUSTRATION AND CONCERN OVER THIS

17:59:21 PARTICULAR REZONING AND GENERALLY WHAT IS OCCURRING ON

17:59:24 HARBOUR ISLAND.

17:59:27 AS IT RELATES TO THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS

17:59:30 PROJECT SPECIFICALLY, THE RED LINE YOU SEE HERE IS THE

17:59:32 DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH.

17:59:36 AND EVERYTHING TO THE SOUTH -- THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD

17:59:41 ASSOCIATION, IT CONSISTS OF A VARIETY OF COMMUNITY WITH

17:59:43 APPROXIMATELY 657 HOMES.

17:59:45 THEY ARE A MIXED TYPE.

17:59:46 THEY ARE SINGLE-FAMILY.

17:59:47 THEY ARE GARDEN HOMES.

17:59:51 THEY ARE CONDOMINIUMS AND THEY ARE TOWN HOUSES AND

17:59:52 APPROXIMATELY 3,000 RESIDENTS.

17:59:56 HARBOUR ISLAND IS A PRETTY UNIQUE AREA IN THE CITY OF

17:59:56 TAMPA.

17:59:57 IT IS AN ISLAND.

18:00:03 AND IT ONLY HAS TWO ENTRY POINTS ON AND OFF THE ISLAND.

18:00:06 ONE IS AT BENEFICIAL AND THE OTHER IS AT HARBOUR ISLAND

18:00:07 BOULEVARD.

18:00:10 THAT IS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET OFF THE ISLAND AND ON

18:00:11 TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

18:00:14 ADDITIONALLY, THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS

18:00:17 HAVE BEEN MENTIONED IS A GATED AREA.

18:00:20 THERE IS ONLY TWO ENTRY POINT INTO THE SOUTH

18:00:22 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AREA.

18:00:28 THAT IS AT SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND AND AT BENEFICIAL.

18:00:30 THAT IS WHAT DOES MAKE UNIQUE.

18:00:33 THIS IS, IN ESSENCE, THE REZONING APPLICATION IN THE

18:00:37 AREA THE REZONING, THE ESSENCE THE GATEWAY INTO ONE OF

18:00:39 THE ENTRY POINTS INTO THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD

18:00:41 ASSOCIATION.

18:00:45 AS IT STANDS TODAY, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A

18:00:46 MIXED USE COMMUNITY.

18:00:51 I UNDERSTAND IT HAS A VERY SIGNIFICANT LAND USE

18:00:51 CLASSIFICATION.

18:00:54 AS IT STANDS TODAY AND IT IS DEVELOPED TODAY, I WANT TO

18:00:57 SHOW PICTURES WHAT THE GATES LOOK LIKE TODAY BECAUSE

18:00:59 INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT IN YOUR ANALYSIS WHETHER OR NOT

18:01:04 THIS PROJECT IS COMPATIBLE.

18:01:08 THIS IS THE ENTRY POINT AT BENEFICIAL DRIVE.

18:01:15 AS YOU CAN SEE, AS YOU GO INTO THE ENTRY POINT ON THE

18:01:18 SOUTH SIDE OF KNIGHT'S RUN, YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE

18:01:21 45, 50 FEET HEIGHT.

18:01:23 YOU HAVE SOME TOWN HOUSES OVER HERE.

18:01:26 BUT OFF VISTA THAT YOU HAVE AS YOU GO IN TO THE GATED

18:01:31 AREA INTO THE COMMUNITY.

18:01:34 THIS IS THE SOUTHGATE -- SORRY, THIS IS THE HARBOUR

18:01:35 ISLAND GATE.

18:01:38 THIS IS THE VIEW AS YOU GO INTO THIS -- THE HARBOUR

18:01:40 ISLAND GATE.

18:01:42 THIS IS A RETENTION POND.

18:01:43 THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT THERE.

18:01:46 THIS IS AS YOU ARE GOING IN.

18:01:49 AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS AS YOU ARE DRIVING IN TO THE

18:01:52 HARBOR -- TO THE SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND GATE.

18:01:54 WHAT YOU ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW.

18:01:56 WHAT YOU ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE

18:01:58 WHICH IS ONE-STORY BUILDING.

18:02:04 AND THEN YOU SEE A NUMBER OF HIGHER, DENSER,

18:02:07 HIGHER-SCALED TOWERS.

18:02:09 THAT IS WHAT THE ISSUE IS.

18:02:16 THAT IS WHAT THE ISSUE IS FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:02:19 AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING

18:02:24 TOWARD THE WEST -- I AM SORRY, TOWARD THE EAST LOOKING

18:02:28 TOWARD THE EAST AT SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD AND

18:02:30 KNIGHT'S RUN.

18:02:33 A VERY CLEAR LINE OF DELINEATION.

18:02:37 YOU HAVE ON THE NORTH SIDE VERY HIGH DENSITY,

18:02:40 HIGH-SCALE, HIGH-INTENSITY USES.

18:02:44 THAT IS HOW IT WAS PLANNED AND HOW IT IS DEVELOPED.

18:02:47 AS YOU MOVE ON THE OTHER SIDE, AS YOU MOVE CLOSER TO

18:02:50 THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION, THE LOW DENSITY AND THE MID

18:02:53 DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA, THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ON

18:02:56 THAT SIDE IS NOT AS DENSE.

18:02:57 IT IS NOT AS INTENSE.

18:02:59 IT IS NOT AS TALL.

18:03:04 THE SCALE IS LESS.

18:03:09 THIS IS FROM BENEFICIAL LOOKING THE OTHER DIRECTION

18:03:11 TOWARD HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD.

18:03:14 YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS SOME -- SOME TALLER STRUCTURES,

18:03:17 SOME -- LITTLE BIT HIGHER DENSITY, BUT A CLEAR

18:03:22 DELINEATION BETWEEN THESE TWO PARTICULAR USES AND THIS

18:03:25 TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ON EACH SIDE OF KNIGHT'S

18:03:28 RUN BOULEVARD.

18:03:30 AGAIN, THIS -- THIS REALLY IS THE CONCERN OF THE

18:03:32 RESIDENTS.

18:03:34 THEY HAVE CONCERNS OVER TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC.

18:03:37 THAT I THINK IS SHARED UPON EVERYBODY ON HARBOUR

18:03:38 ISLAND.

18:03:40 GETTING ON AND OFF HARBOUR ISLAND IS INCREDIBLY

18:03:43 COMPLICATED ESPECIALLY DURING SPECIAL EVENTS.

18:03:46 ESPECIALLY DURING LIGHTNING GAMES AND THESE KIND OF

18:03:46 THINGS.

18:03:49 THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT ALTHOUGH YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS

18:03:54 FROM AN ITE PERSPECTIVE AND A TRANSPORTATION

18:03:57 PERSPECTIVE, THAT IT MAY NOT INCREASE ACTUAL NUMBER OF

18:03:58 TRIPS.

18:03:59 THERE IS GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.

18:04:01 THERE IS GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL PRESSURES.

18:04:04 THERE ARE GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL CONGESTION.

18:04:10 ADDITIONALLY, THE DRIVEWAY.

18:04:12 I DON'T HAVE THE BEST PICTURE OF IT AND YOU SEE IT ON

18:04:15 SOME OF THE OTHER SLIDES IS RIGHT AT THE FRONT OF THE

18:04:15 GATE.

18:04:18 IT IS RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING POINT WHERE YOU HAVE

18:04:20 TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING IN AND OUT AS THEY WAIT TO GET IN

18:04:24 AND OUT OF THE GATE, AS THEY WAIT TO -- TO QUEUE.

18:04:28 THIS IS ALSO THE AREA WHERE THERE IS A BUS STOP FOR --

18:04:32 FOR THE SCHOOLS AS THEY GO TO WHATEVER THE SCHOOLS ARE

18:04:33 REZONED FOR.

18:04:38 PLANT AND WILSON AND SOME OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS.

18:04:41 AGAIN, THIS IS THE CONCERN OF THE RESIDENTS.

18:04:44 THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THIS MASS AND SCALE IS

18:04:48 GOING TO IMPACT THEIR RESIDENTIAL USES.

18:04:49 THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC.

18:04:52 THEY ARE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT

18:04:54 THEIR KIDS GETTING ON THE BUS.

18:04:56 AND THEY ARE GOING TO -- AND THEY ARE CONCERNS

18:04:59 GENERALLY ABOUT THE CHANGE THAT CAN HAPPEN AS YOU GET

18:05:04 ON THE OTHER SIDE OF KNIGHT'S RUN BOULEVARD.

18:05:06 I THINK IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO LOOK AT THE

18:05:09 PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN, BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU

18:05:12 LOOK AT -- WHEN THEY SHOWED HOW THAT LOOKS IN

18:05:16 COMPARISON TO -- YOU KNOW, THEY DID AN IMAGINE OF WHAT

18:05:19 THIS WILL LOOK LIKE, YOU CAN EVEN SEE IN THAT PICTURE,

18:05:23 IT IS THE TALLEST -- IT WOULD BE THE TALLEST STRUCTURE

18:05:26 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF KNIGHT'S RUN.

18:05:28 IT WOULD START POTENTIALLY A TREND.

18:05:32 IT WILL START POTENTIALLY HOW YOU MOVE DEVELOPMENT ON

18:05:35 THE OTHER SIDE OF KNIGHT'S RUN AND WHAT THAT WILL LOOK

18:05:37 LIKE AND FEEL LIKE.

18:05:39 THAT IS SOMETHING OFF THIS THE TRITE CONSIDER AS PART

18:05:41 OF YOUR ANALYSIS.

18:05:45 I DID NOTE THAT THEY -- THAT THERE IS NOW NO LONGER ANY

18:05:47 WAIVERS THAT ARE REQUIRED.

18:05:49 I UNDERSTOOD FROM THE STAFF REPORT AND MAYBE SOMEBODY

18:05:52 CAN CLARIFY THIS AFTERWARDS THAT THERE WAS GOING BE A

18:05:54 WAIVER THAT WAS REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND

18:05:58 READING, BUT I CERTAINLY APPLAUD THEM FROM TRYING TO

18:06:00 GET A DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY WAIVERS.

18:06:03 THAT IS CERTAINLY THE THING TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH AS

18:06:05 THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

18:06:09 THAT DOES NOT CHANGE YOUR ANALYSIS.

18:06:13 UNDER THE PD CRITERIA OFF THIS IN YOUR CODE, YOU HAVE

18:06:16 THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO REVIEW WHETHER OR NOT A

18:06:18 PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT AS IT COMES FORWARD AS A PLANNED

18:06:21 DEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE.

18:06:23 HEIGHT AND SCALE COMPATIBLE.

18:06:29 IS IT GOING TO CAUSE UNDO PRESSURES ON THE BUILT

18:06:30 ENVIRONMENT.

18:06:35 IS IT GOING TO CREATE TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS.

18:06:37 YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM A LOT OF MEMBERS OF THE

18:06:40 COMMUNITY WHAT THEIR DAY-TO-DAY LIVES ARE AS THEY DRIVE

18:06:42 ON AND OFF THE ISLANDS.

18:06:43 THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR ISSUES.

18:06:47 IF IT IS ANY OF THAT EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY THAT COMES

18:06:47 TO YOU.

18:06:51 IF IT IS FACTUALLY BASED.

18:06:52 COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

18:06:56 YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REVIEW THE COMPETENT AND

18:07:02 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IF THE PD CRITERIA HAS BEEN MET.

18:07:04 I DID POINT OUT THE CRITERIA.

18:07:06 I HIGHLIGHTED THE PORTION THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER AS PART

18:07:07 OF YOUR ANALYSIS.

18:07:11 AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THOSE CRITERIA AND

18:07:14 DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THOSE CRITERIA HAVE BEEN MET.

18:07:17 THE STAFF HAS FOUND IT CONSISTENT.

18:07:22 BUT YOUR ROLE IS TO DETERMINE IF CRITERIA HAS BEEN MET

18:07:25 AND YOUR ROLE IS TO LOOK AT ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT COMES

18:07:27 INTO THE RECORD AND MAKE DECISION.

18:07:30 IS THIS THE RIGHT DEVELOPMENT IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE

18:07:30 RIGHT TIME.

18:07:32 THAT IS PART OF YOUR ANALYSIS.

18:07:35 AND IT IS PART OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER IN

18:07:38 LISTENING TO THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE AS PART OF THIS

18:07:39 RECORD.

18:07:42 AND MAKING YOUR ULTIMATE DECISION.

18:07:45 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS.

18:07:48 I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AS

18:07:49 TO WHAT THEY THINK.

18:07:52 FIVE A COUPLE OF EXTRA MINUTES -- IF I CAN GET A COUPLE

18:07:56 OF EXTRA MINUTES TO WRAP UP AT THE END, I APPRECIATE

18:07:57 IT.

18:07:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

18:08:01 >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS THE TALLEST BUILDING ON THE

18:08:04 SOUTH SIDE OF THE ISLAND?

18:08:05 >> I BELIEVE IT IS EIGHT STORIES.

18:08:08 I DON'T KNOW --

18:08:10 >>LYNN HURTAK: THE STORIES IS --

18:08:11 >> SEVEN.

18:08:13 >> I APOLOGIZE.

18:08:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.

18:08:20 ARE YOU FINISHED?

18:08:21 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

18:08:22 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

18:08:27 NOT TO MISS MANDELL, MORE SO FOR STAFF, FOR THE --

18:08:31 WHETHER IT IS MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ, MISS WELLS OR MR.

18:08:32 SHELBY.

18:08:34 FOR PURPOSES OF COUNCIL.

18:08:37 COULD YOU ALL CLARIFY WHEN IT COMES TO THE PUBLIC --

18:08:40 AND I KNOW WE HAVE GONE OVER THIS BEFORE, BUT WHAT

18:08:44 CONSTITUTES COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FROM MEMBERS

18:08:45 OF THE PUBLIC.

18:08:49 DO THEY NEED TO BE QUALIFIED AS EXPERTS AS SUCH?

18:08:54 OR DAY-TO-DAY EXPERIENCES OF PEOPLE -- BECAUSE, YOU

18:08:56 KNOW, I WANT US TO KNOW -- BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE

18:09:00 A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WILL BE VERY PASSIONATE

18:09:03 AND WITHOUT A DOUBT, WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE

18:09:06 REPLACEMENT OF THAT SMALL BANK WITH THIS BIG HOTEL,

18:09:10 THAT IS A BIG CHANGE, BUT I WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT IS

18:09:13 THAT WHICH WE CAN -- FOR ALL OF OUR SAYING THAT WE CAN

18:09:16 RELY UPON IN MAKING A DETERMINATION ON THIS AS IT

18:09:19 PERTAINS TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

18:09:23 >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, CHIEF ASSISTANT SENIOR

18:09:24 ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD.

18:09:29 I WOULD GENERALLY AGREE OF HOW MISS MANDELL PRESENTED

18:09:31 THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU CAN HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC THAT

18:09:34 WILL BE CONSIDERED COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

18:09:37 WHEN THEY ARE SPEAKING TO THEIR EXPERIENCES AND HOW IT

18:09:40 IMPACTS THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE, WHAT THEY OTHERED AND

18:09:43 THE DEVELOPMENT OVER TIME, THE COURTS HAVE FOUND THAT

18:09:46 TO BE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

18:09:49 OF COURSE AS YOU HEAR FROM THE DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE

18:09:54 PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, ASK YOURSELF, ARE THEY SPEAKING TO

18:09:58 THE CRITERIA THAT IS APPLICABLE UNDER A PD REZONING.

18:10:01 BECAUSE THAT IS THE STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THE CITY

18:10:02 COUNCIL.

18:10:05 SO THEY MUST SPEAK FOR IT TO BE COMPETENT AND

18:10:06 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

18:10:10 THEY MUST BE SPEAKING TO THE CRITERIA IN THE CODE AS IT

18:10:13 RELATES TO AN APPROVAL OR A DENIAL OF THIS APPLICATION.

18:10:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT.

18:10:16 THANK YOU, MA'AM.

18:10:17 APPRECIATE IT.

18:10:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

18:10:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MISS MANDELL, YOU MENTIONED THE

18:10:25 ROAD, KNIGHT'S RUN AVENUE TO THE SOUTH.

18:10:31 IS THERE ANY BUILDINGS AT ALL, PD COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE

18:10:35 OTHER THAN THE -- I WOULD IMAGINE THAT SEVEN-STORY

18:10:37 BUILDING IS RESIDENTIAL OPINION.

18:10:38 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

18:10:41 EVERYTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GATE, AS IT WERE,

18:10:42 WAS RESIDENTIAL.

18:10:44 THE ONLY TWO COMMERCIAL -- THE ONLY TWO COMMERCIALLY

18:10:47 ZONED AT THIS TIME AREAS, ONE IS THE HARBOUR ISLAND

18:10:52 ATHLETIC CLUB WHICH IS A PRIVATE RECREATIONAL USE.

18:10:55 SO THAT IS ONLY ALLOWED FOR MEMBERS WHO ARE A PART OF

18:10:56 THAT COMMUNITY.

18:10:59 AND THEN THE FORMER BANK BUILDING THAT IS NOW A

18:11:00 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.

18:11:04 THAT WAS REZONED IN 2016, IF I AM RECALLING CORRECTLY,

18:11:06 TO BECOME A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.

18:11:10 IT WAS A BANK PRIOR TO THAT.

18:11:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL RIGHT.

18:11:16 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:11:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THE CRITERIA THAT

18:11:21 MISS WELLS MENTIONED.

18:11:25 UNLESS THEY ARE AN EXPERT, AND THEIR OPINION IS NOT

18:11:28 NECESSARILY -- NOT COMPREHENSIVE TENT AND SUBSTANTIAL

18:11:30 EVIDENCE, BUT THE COUNCIL, I WOULD DIRECT YOUR

18:11:34 ATTENTION TO THE CRITERIA AS IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED IN

18:11:37 THE STAFF REPORTS AND APPLY THE FACTS THAT YOU HEAR

18:11:40 FACTUALLY WHAT SUPPORTS THEIR OPINION IS THE COMPETENT

18:11:44 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE BUT THE OPINIONS UNLESS THEY ARE

18:11:48 EXPERTS DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AT THE TENT AND SUBSTANTIAL

18:11:48 EVIDENCE.

18:11:50 MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO HAVE THE CRY TERRY I CAN'T

18:11:54 HAVE THE PD IN FRONT OF YOU AND IF THERE ARE FACTS THAT

18:11:59 ASSOCIATE TO THAT CRITERIA, YOU CAN WAIVE THOSE AND

18:12:01 DETERMINE WHETHER THAT MEETS THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL

18:12:04 EVIDENCE, THE BURDEN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO BASE YOUR

18:12:06 DECISION ON.

18:12:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS MANDELL, TO FOLLOW UP ON

18:12:11 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S QUESTION.

18:12:14 YOU HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH LAND USE FOR A WHILE, BOTH

18:12:19 WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND NOW PRIVATELY.

18:12:24 THAT KNIGHT'S RUN TO THE NORTH SIDE IS VERY INTENSIVE.

18:12:28 THE SOUTH SIDE IS LESS INTENSIVE.

18:12:33 WAS THAT BY DESIGN EITHER BY THE CITY OR THE PLANNING

18:12:37 COMMISSION OR DID THAT JUST HAPPEN IN HAPPENSTANCE?

18:12:40 >> I THINK THAT IS A QUESTION FOR YOUR STAFF WHO HAS

18:12:42 BEEN MORE INVOLVED OVER THE YEARS IN TERMS OF THE

18:12:44 DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ON HARBOUR ISLAND.

18:12:47 BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS SOME TESTIMONY FROM THE

18:12:50 PLANNING COMMISSION THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS GIVEN

18:12:55 A VERY HIGH INTENSITY LAND USE CLASSIFICATION WHEN IT

18:12:59 FIRST STARTED, BUT THEN THROUGH THE DRI PROCESS, THE PD

18:13:03 PROCESS AND COUNCILS FROM BEFORE YOU TO TODAY WEIGHING

18:13:07 WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE, WHAT THE CAPACITIES WERE, ETC.

18:13:10 THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN HAS OCCURRED PURSUANT TO

18:13:13 APPROVALS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS GIVEN, PREVIOUS

18:13:15 COUNCILS HAVE GIVEN.

18:13:19 SO OVERTIME, THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS HAVE BEEN WHAT

18:13:23 THEY ARE, AND IT HAS BEEN CHANGING -- AS I STATED IT

18:13:25 WOULD BE CHANGING THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN BY PUTTING

18:13:31 HIGH -- HIGHER DENSITY, HIGHER INTENSITY, BIGGER SCALE

18:13:34 DEVELOPMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF KNIGHT'S RUN THAT IS

18:13:38 NOT RESIDENTIAL AND THAT IS NOT PART OF THE REFERRING

18:13:41 COMMUNITY THAT IS START OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT

18:13:43 ON THE OTHER SIDE OF KNIGHT'S RUN.

18:13:46 WHETHER OR NOT IT IS A HOTEL OR OTHER USE FOR THAT IS

18:13:48 IN A COMMERCIAL CATEGORY.

18:13:52 IT IS LESS THE POINT THAN THE MASS AND THE SCALE AND

18:13:56 WHAT HAS OCCURRED AT THAT LOCATION PREVIOUSLY.

18:13:59 AND I WILL ALSO POINT OUT TO YOU IF YOU LOOK AT THE

18:14:02 DEVELOPMENT AS IT HAS OCCURRED ON THE OTHER -- BY

18:14:04 BENEFICIAL BY THE OTHER GATE.

18:14:05 IT HAS BEEN LOWER SCALE.

18:14:09 SO THAT IS WHAT HAS DEVELOPED OVER TIME.

18:14:12 THE REASON FOR IT IS FOR THE PLANNERS TO REALLY ADVISE

18:14:15 ON.

18:14:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS MANDELL.

18:14:21 WHO IS GOING TO SPEAK NEXT IN PUBLIC COMMENT.

18:14:25 AND IF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO FORM A LINE ON MY LEFT,

18:14:29 YOUR RIGHT, I WILL GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

18:14:30 THANK YOU.

18:14:32 PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

18:14:38 STATE YOUR NAME.

18:14:44 >> GOOD EVENING, GUY VAN BAALEN, 1415 HARBOR WALK ROAD.

18:14:45 I AM SWORN IN.

18:14:48 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

18:14:52 AS I INDICATED, MY NAME IS GUY VAN BAALEN.

18:14:55 I AM AN ATTORNEY BY PROFESSION AND LIVE ON HARBOUR

18:14:56 ISLAND.

18:14:59 I AM PRESIDENT OF THE HARBOUR ISLAND HOMEOWNERS

18:15:01 ASSOCIATION AND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH

18:15:02 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

18:15:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I ASK YOU, ARE YOU SPEAKING FOR

18:15:08 YOURSELF OR FOR EITHER ONE OF THOSE ASSOCIATIONS?

18:15:08 >> FOR ALL THREE.

18:15:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL THREE.

18:15:13 YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE RIGHTS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ON

18:15:15 BEHALF OF THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION AND THE OTHER

18:15:16 ASSOCIATIONS?

18:15:23 >> YES, I AM PRESIDENT OF THE HARBOR SIDE ASSOCIATION

18:15:25 AND VICE PRESIDENT OF IT.

18:15:29 I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE HARBOUR ISLAND ATHLETIC CLUB

18:15:32 SO I AM PARTICULARLY AFFECTED BY WHAT IS PROPOSED HERE

18:15:34 TODAY.

18:15:35 I LOVE HARBOUR ISLAND.

18:15:37 I WANT TO SEE IT FLOURISH.

18:15:40 I HAVE THE FOLLOWING CONCERNS OF THE PROPOSED

18:15:42 DEVELOPMENT AND WHY WE ARE OPPOSE $TO IT.

18:15:44 AND I KNOW THAT YOU WILL HEAR A LOT OF POINT.

18:15:46 I WILL TRY TO NARROW IT DOWN.

18:15:50 ONE, THE DEVELOPER SAYS IT WAS A BANK AND USED STANDARD

18:15:53 BOOK METRIC BY TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS TO GUESSTIMATE THE

18:15:56 AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THE BANK HAD, BUT THAT IS NOT

18:15:58 REALLY BASED ON REALITY.

18:16:00 YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY SEE WHAT THE SITUATION WAS.

18:16:02 IT WAS A SMALL BANK.

18:16:05 BEFORE THAT OBVIOUSLY IT WAS A MODEL HOME OFFICE YOU.

18:16:09 AND MOSTLY HAD LOCAL AND FOOT TRAFFIC FROM RESIDENTS ON

18:16:10 THE ISLAND.

18:16:12 PEOPLE FROM OFF THE ISLAND DIDN'T COME INTO THE BANK

18:16:13 THAT OFTEN.

18:16:16 THE BUILDING WAS SOLD OBVIOUSLY TO DEVELOPMENT TO

18:16:19 CONVERT TO SMALL OFFICE, AND OBVIOUSLY HIS INTENTIONS

18:16:21 WERE LARGER.

18:16:24 THE NEW PLAN SAYS THAT THE TRAFFIC WILL MOSTLY BE RIDE

18:16:25 SHARE.

18:16:28 THAT CAN BE TREMENDOUS BURDEN ON THE -- ON THE CON GIGS

18:16:30 IN THE AREA.

18:16:32 AND I THINK ALL OF YOU MAY KNOW ABOUT THAT SITUATION.

18:16:34 HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE

18:16:35 COMMUNITY.

18:16:37 I KNOW OUR ATTORNEY EXPLAINED THAT TO YOU.

18:16:40 THE ENTRANCE AND THE EXIT FOR THE HOTEL.

18:16:44 THEY SAY THEY WANT TO MODEL IT ON COMING ON KNIGHT'S

18:16:47 BLUE RUN AND ALSO HAVE IT SO IT CAN COME BY THE GATE.

18:16:49 THERE IS AN ISLAND THERE.

18:16:51 YOU HAVE TO MAKE A U-TURN THERE WHICH IS WHERE THE

18:16:55 HARBOUR ISLAND ATHLETIC CLUB.

18:16:56 IT WILL BE A NIGHTMARE THERE.

18:16:58 PUT MORE LIGHTS IN IF THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING

18:17:01 AND MAKE IT MORE CONGESTED AND HOLD UP THE TRAFFIC THAT

18:17:05 GOES UP BEYOND THE GATES AND BEHIND THE GATES.

18:17:09 SO THE INGRESS AND EGRESS WILL BE A LOGISTICAL

18:17:12 NIGHTMARE AND BLOCK THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE TO COME AND

18:17:13 GO WITH REGARD TO IT.

18:17:16 I ALSO WANT TO BRING UP THE ISSUE WITH CONSTRUCTION AND

18:17:16 ZONING TIMING.

18:17:18 THAT HAVEN'T BEEN RAISED TONIGHT.

18:17:21 IT WASN'T RAISED BY THE DEVELOPER.

18:17:23 WE KNOW -- WE HAVE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED IN CONSTRUCTION

18:17:24 ZONES.

18:17:27 WE ARE OBVIOUSLY FOR CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT IN

18:17:29 THE COMMUNITY, BUT YOU ONLY HAVE TO LOOK AT WATER

18:17:33 STREETS AND HERON TOWERS AND THE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION

18:17:36 AND BLOCKAGE OF ROADS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT OCCURRED

18:17:37 DURING THAT TIME.

18:17:39 THEY HAVE INDICATED TO US IN ONE OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS

18:17:45 THERE WILL BE ABLE TO BASICALLY IMPLODE NEGATIVES INTO

18:17:51 A POSITIVE SENSE IS OF USING THE STREETS OF HARBOUR

18:17:52 ISLAND BOULEVARD OR KNIGHT'S RUN.

18:17:54 THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE.

18:17:59 AND I POSE THAT THEY ARE -- EXCUSE ME, THEIR PROPOSAL

18:18:01 WITH REGARD TO THAT.

18:18:03 THIS IS THE ENTRANCE, AND IT WILL BLOCK US.

18:18:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

18:18:06 >> OUT OF TIME.

18:18:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S IT.

18:18:12 >> OKAY.

18:18:15 >> HI, JIM GRIFFIN.

18:18:19 1061 SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD AND I AM SPEAKING

18:18:21 TONIGHT IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.

18:18:25 AS WE HAVE SEEN, THE CITY DEVELOP AND THE ISLAND

18:18:28 DEVELOP, TAMPA HAS CERTAINLY GROWN INTO THIS WALKABLE

18:18:29 CITY.

18:18:33 AND I KNOW, FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE, WHEN WE HAD THE

18:18:35 PRESSURES ON OUR PARKING GARAGE, ETC.

18:18:37 AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TRAFFIC THIS WOULD ONLY

18:18:43 ENHANCE WHAT TAMPA BRINGS AS A CITY FROM THE CONVENTION

18:18:46 CENTER, THE WALKABILITY, THE NIGHT LIFE, THE VIBRANCE.

18:18:49 I THINK WE BRING A GREAT TASTE OF TAMPA WITH THIS

18:18:51 PROJECT.

18:18:51 THANK YOU.

18:18:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:19:02 >> GOOD EVENING, VERNON ELLINGER.

18:19:06 I AM A RESIDENT OF HARBOUR ISLAND, AND I BELIEVE I HAVE A

18:19:09 MORE COMPREHENSIVE PHOTO OF WHAT IT IS LIKE AT THE

18:19:10 PROPOSED SITE.

18:19:12 I KNOW YOU HAVE TO BALANCE EVERYONE'S RIGHT.

18:19:15 AND I HOPE YOU WILL JUST SAY NO TO KEEP THINGS IN

18:19:17 BALANCE.

18:19:20 THERE ARE A LOT OF EMOTIONAL ARGUMENTS AT WHAT THE

18:19:24 PETITIONER CALLED A SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY MEETING.

18:19:26 IT WAS ALMOST A RIOT.

18:19:29 NOW I KNOW YOU CAN ONLY CONSIDER SUBSTANTIVE

18:19:36 OBJECTIONS, SO -- CAN YOU HOLD IT --

18:19:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MA'AM, IF YOUR ARMS ARE GETTING TIRED,

18:19:43 PLEASE USE THE EASEL.

18:19:44 >> THANK YOU.

18:19:48 HERE WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL BOULEVARD-STYLE, FOUR-LANED

18:19:52 STREET AND DIVIDED AND HAS PLANTS AND A BEAUTIFUL SIGHT

18:19:53 LINE.

18:19:57 WHAT I AM ASKING TO YOU DO IS DRAW THE LINE THERE.

18:20:01 DRAW THE LINE BETWEEN HIGH-RISE AND NOT HIGH-RISE.

18:20:06 IT HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR THROUGH THE OTHER SPEAKING THAT

18:20:07 THERE IS NOTHING HERE.

18:20:09 AND WE HEARD THE WORD "ADJACENT."

18:20:13 I HEARD IT SAID THIS IS NO TALLER THAN THE ADJACENT

18:20:14 BUILDINGS.

18:20:17 I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT ADJACENT MEANS, NEXT TO.

18:20:20 WHY I AM SAYING DRAW THE LINE IS, THERE IS NOTHING BUT

18:20:23 A BEAUTIFUL VISTA ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.

18:20:26 SO PLEASE KEEP IT THAT WAY.

18:20:30 I BELIEVE THAT THE PETITIONER HAS MISLED US WITHDRAWING

18:20:34 THE LINE AT THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE

18:20:35 GATED COMMUNITY.

18:20:40 THIS REALLY IS THE LINE TO DRAW BETWEEN HIGH INTENSE

18:20:44 COMMERCIAL AND LOW INTENSE LOW VISTA RESIDENTIAL OR

18:20:46 RECREATIONAL.

18:20:50 NOW, IF THIS -- THIS HOTEL IS COMPLETELY OUT OF

18:20:51 CHARACTER WITH THE MIX.

18:20:54 AND I BELIEVE THAT IS ONE OF THE CRITERIA.

18:20:56 A BUSINESS TRANSACTION HOTEL.

18:20:58 NO INTEGRATION WITH THE COMMUNITY.

18:21:00 I AM A GRADUATE OF THE CORNELL HOTEL SCHOOL, AND I USED

18:21:01 TO RUN HOTELS.

18:21:03 MAYBE YOU CAN CONSIDER ME AN EXPERT.

18:21:08 THIS HOTEL IS NOT A COMMUNITY INTERACTION SITE.

18:21:10 NOW WE TALKED OF THE PARKING SPACES.

18:21:14 IF I AM RUNNING A HOTEL, I WOULD SOB TEMPTED TO

18:21:16 MONETIZE THOSE EXTRA SPACES THAT ARE UNUSED.

18:21:20 PLEASE PUT TEETH, IF YOU DO APPROVE IT, PUT TEETH IN

18:21:20 THAT.

18:21:24 AND ALSO AS GUY BROUGHT UP, EVERYBODY PROJECT TAKES

18:21:28 OVER PUBLIC HIGHWAYS, PUBLIC SPACES TO BE BUILT.

18:21:32 WE CAN NOT HAVE THESE ROADS CLOSED OFF FOR A YEAR.

18:21:37 PLEASE, IF FOR SOME REASON YOU GO AGAINST THE COMMUNITY

18:21:41 AND ALLOW THIS TO PROCEED, YOU WILL BE LIKE A CAR

18:21:48 BUNGLE ON SMOOTH SKIN AND WE CANNOT HAVE OUR ROADS

18:21:49 CLOSED DURING CONSTRUCTION.

18:21:51 PLEASE DRAW THE LINE HERE.

18:21:59 AND DON'T PUT THIS IN OUR HOTEL -- ON OUR ISLAND.

18:21:59 [APPLAUSE]

18:22:04 [GAVEL SOUNDING]

18:22:12 >> THIS I REFER TO AS IT.

18:22:14 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?

18:22:17 I AM DEBRA ELLINGER ON ABBEY'S WAY.

18:22:18 AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

18:22:22 I SIT ON THREE LARGE COMPANY BOARDS LOCALLY HERE, FOR

18:22:24 EXAMPLE, TUPPERWARE.

18:22:27 I HAVE BEEN THE CEO AND PRESIDENT OF FOUR PRIVATE

18:22:30 EQUITY COMPANIES.

18:22:32 IN THAT ROLE I DEVELOPED OVER 100 DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.

18:22:37 I NEVER SEEN SOMETHING AS EGREGIOUS AS THIS.

18:22:39 WHAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT BECAUSE THIS IS WITHIN

18:22:43 YOUR DOMAIN TO DEAL WITH IS THE LAND USE INTENSITY THAT

18:22:43 IS INVOLVED HERE.

18:22:47 THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER TALKED ABOUT THE DEMARCATION LINE.

18:22:51 I ACTUALLY HAVE THE SAME PHOTOGRAPH WITHOUT -- I JUST

18:22:55 WANT TO RE-EMPHASIZE THAT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT GOES TO

18:22:57 YOUR ZONING DECISIONS.

18:22:58 DO YOU MIND.

18:23:03 JUST BE VERY, VERY CLEAR, THAT THING DOES -- HIS SCALE

18:23:07 WAS CORRECT, IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO THE SKY UP HERE.

18:23:10 THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, NOT THE PICTURES THAT THE

18:23:12 DEVELOPER HAS SHOWN YOU.

18:23:17 THIS IS VERY CLEAR LOW-RISE, LOW INTENSITY.

18:23:19 A CLEAR DEMARCATION LINE AND I WANT TO YOU SUPPORT

18:23:20 THAT.

18:23:24 THE LAST THING I WILL SAY IS THAT ZONING WAS PUT IN

18:23:27 PLACE TO PROTECT THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.

18:23:31 IT IS PUT IN PLACE TO MINIMIZE AND MANAGE INTENSITY.

18:23:35 AND I STRONGLY, STRONGLY URGE TO YOU REJECT THIS

18:23:36 REZONING PROPOSAL.

18:23:38 THANK YOU.

18:23:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

18:23:40 [APPLAUSE]

18:23:42 [GAVEL SOUNDING]

18:23:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE, IF WE --

18:23:49 WE ARE ALL HAPPY ABOUT CERTAIN SPEAKERS AND SOME

18:23:53 SPEAKS, BUT IF WE CAN PLEASE REFRAIN FROM THE APPLAUSE.

18:23:54 THANK YOU.

18:23:55 >> GOOD EVENING.

18:23:56 LAUREN TOBIN.

18:24:00 I HAVE BEEN ON HARBOUR ISLAND FOR 30 YEARS.

18:24:03 AND I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES.

18:24:06 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS INVOLVED WITH WAS THE PUSH

18:24:10 BACK TO PUT THE FORCE MAIN, THE NEW FORCE MAIN ON TOP

18:24:13 OF THE OLD FORCE MAIN.

18:24:18 THAT INITIATIVE WAS -- HAPPENED AND THE RESIDENTS, A

18:24:21 LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TODAY GOT TOGETHER AND

18:24:23 PUSHED BACK ON THAT INITIATIVE.

18:24:27 AND WE MADE THE CITY LISTEN TO US AND TALK ABOUT WHAT

18:24:30 IT WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE TO HAVE THE FORCE MAIN.

18:24:32 THE NEW ONE ON TOP OF THE OLD ONE.

18:24:34 IT WOULD HAVE GONE RIGHT THROUGH HARBOUR ISLAND AND

18:24:36 RIGHT THROUGH MY BACK YARD.

18:24:41 I DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THE ELMO, BUT I HAVE A PICTURE.

18:24:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: LAY IT DOWN RIGHT ON IT.

18:24:45 THERE YOU GO.

18:24:46 >> I WALK BY THIS SITE EVERY DAY NOW.

18:24:49 I AM SO GRATEFUL THAT THE CITY RECOGNIZED THAT JUST

18:24:53 BECAUSE AN IDEA WAS AN IDEA MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN A GOOD

18:24:54 ONE.

18:24:57 SO WE PUSHED BACK AND THE CITY DECIDED TO MOVE THE

18:25:00 FORCE MAIN BETWEEN THE HISTORY MUSEUM AND THE MARRIOTT.

18:25:03 THAT IS WHAT THAT CONSTRUCTION SITE LOOKS LIKE RIGHT

18:25:03 NOW.

18:25:06 AGAIN, BY BY IT EVERY DAY.

18:25:11 THAT IS WHAT THINGS WOULD HAPPEN IF WE -- YOU MET --

18:25:12 YOU APPROVE THIS.

18:25:17 THE CONSTRUCTION ALONE WOULD SHUT DOWN THE -- ONE OF

18:25:20 TWO ENTRANCE WAYS TO HARBOUR ISLAND TO THE SOUTH OF THE

18:25:23 GATES -- TO THE SOUTH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE

18:25:23 LIVE.

18:25:25 THAT IS POINT NUMBER ONE.

18:25:28 POINT NUMBER TWO, I WANT TO GO ON RECORD HERE THE LAST

18:25:31 TIME WE ALL MET WITH THE LIBERTY GROUP WAS A DISASTER.

18:25:33 THEY SAID IT WAS PRODUCTIVE.

18:25:37 ENDED VERY ABRUPTLY BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS GETTING UP TO

18:25:37 TALK.

18:25:41 AT THAT MEETING, IT WAS ASKED IF THE LIBERTY GROUP HAD

18:25:45 HIRED THE BALLARD GROUP TO HELP MOVE THIS INITIATIVE

18:25:47 FORWARD.

18:25:50 AND IT WAS TOLD TO US BY THE LIBERTY GROUP THAT THE

18:25:53 BALLARD GROUP HAD BEEN HIRED.

18:25:59 ANN CRUZ IS A MANAGING PARTNER OF THE BALLARD GROUP.

18:26:03 I MIND TO BE AN INCREDIBLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

18:26:07 IF AT ANY -- I THINK I AM DONE.

18:26:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

18:26:09 >> THANK YOU.

18:26:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

18:26:14 >> GOOD EVENING, DR. KATHLEEN HEIDE.

18:26:17 I AM A DISTINGUISHED UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR AT USF.

18:26:22 I LIVED THAT HARBOUR ISLAND FOR 26 YEARS.

18:26:27 AND I HAVE ALSO BEEN INVOLVED ON THE BOARD FOR ABOUT A

18:26:31 DOZEN YEARS, PRESIDENT FOR I THINK FIVE OR SIX YEARS.

18:26:33 WHAT I CAN SAY -- AND I HAD A LONG TALK.

18:26:36 BUT A FEW POINTS.

18:26:39 THE SPEAKS BEFORE HAVE SHOWN YOU VERY CLEARLY THIS IS

18:26:43 NOT CONSISTENT WITH THIS BUILDING WITH WHAT WE HAD.

18:26:47 THE VISTA, IF YOU LOOK, WOULD BE BASICALLY FLAT NOW AND

18:26:51 WE WILL HAVE THAT BUILDING -- THE PROPOSED HOTEL THERE.

18:26:53 IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE.

18:26:54 IT IS NOT CONSISTENT.

18:27:02 WHAT I WANT ALSO MENTION IS WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID.

18:27:05 THERE IS ONE BUILDING RIGHT NOW THAT IS -- HARBOR

18:27:05 COURT.

18:27:07 IT WAS THERE WHEN I MOVED IN.

18:27:11 IT WAS THREE COMMUNITIES SEVEN STORIES.

18:27:14 AFTER THAT, THERE WERE NO HIGH-RISES BUILT.

18:27:17 AND I THINK THAT IS BECAUSE A CONSCIOUS DECISION WAS

18:27:19 MADE TO KEEP IT ON A LOW SCALE.

18:27:22 AND YOU WILL FIND TWO, THREE STORIES.

18:27:26 YOU WILL NOT FIND ANOTHER SEVEN-STORY BUILDING.

18:27:29 I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A MISREPRESENTATION TO

18:27:31 SUGGEST THIS IS FITTING IN.

18:27:32 IT DOESN'T.

18:27:36 IT WILL BE CLEARLY AT A SITE.

18:27:38 AND OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED AND I WILL JUST HIGHLIGHT

18:27:40 THAT IT WILL IMPEDE TRAFFIC.

18:27:43 ONE OF THE SPEAKERS SAID -- AND IT IS RIGHT ON -- THERE

18:27:46 WAS NOT MUCH TRAFFIC WITH THAT BANK.

18:27:50 SO SAYS IT COMPARABLE IS, AGAIN, I BELIEVE A

18:27:53 MISREPRESENTATION WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.

18:27:57 IT WILL CLEARLY IMPEDE ENTRY AND EXIT INTO WHAT IS THE

18:27:59 WEST GATE.

18:28:02 PROBABLY RESULT IN THE WEST GATE BEING CLOSED FOR A

18:28:03 LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

18:28:07 THAT WILL SUBSTANTIALLY IMPACT PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE,

18:28:08 GETTING TO WORK.

18:28:10 GETTING HOME FROM WORK.

18:28:14 IN ADDITION, THE -- THE DEVELOPERS ARE REPRESENTING THE

18:28:19 AC HOTEL AS -- YOU KNOW, AS REALLY STATE THE ART OF

18:28:19 WHATEVER.

18:28:23 ALL DUE RESPECT, I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THE MARRIOTT.

18:28:24 YOU CAN FIND THIS.

18:28:25 THERE ARE 30 PROPERTIES.

18:28:28 THE AC HOTEL IS NOT RATED AS ONE OF THE HIGHEST

18:28:30 QUALITIES.

18:28:32 WAS RATED 17 OUT OF 30.

18:28:34 HARBOUR ISLAND -- SOUTH OF THE GATES.

18:28:35 THIS IS THE KEY HERE.

18:28:39 SOUTH OF THE GATES IS A PREMIERE COMMUNITY.

18:28:43 OUR PROPERTIES OFTENTIMES, IF THEY GO ON THE MARKET,

18:28:45 THEY ARE SOLD WITHIN A FEW DAYS.

18:28:49 SO MY REQUEST IS, PLEASE, TO DENY THIS MOTION ON BEHALF

18:28:50 OF THE RESIDENTS.

18:28:51 THANK YOU.

18:28:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

18:28:55 [APPLAUSE]

18:28:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.

18:28:59 >> HI, GOOD EVENING.

18:29:02 MY NAME IS JESSICA SCHWARZKOPF.

18:29:05 1469 HARBOR WALK ROAD.

18:29:06 AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

18:29:09 I AM ACTUALLY HERE TONIGHT WITH MY MOTHER, BRENDA.

18:29:12 HER AND I ARE BOTH RESIDENTS OF THE ISLANDS.

18:29:15 I HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE THE LATE '90S AND SHE MOVED

18:29:20 THERE WITH MY FATHER IN THE LATE 2000S FOR SECURITY

18:29:22 REASONS AND WE ARE HERE TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS REGARDING

18:29:23 THIS REZONING EFFORTS.

18:29:25 I WAS COMPELLED TO SPEAK TONIGHT BECAUSE OF AN INCIDENT

18:29:27 THAT HAPPENED JUST RECENTLY WITH MY MOM.

18:29:31 SHE NEEDED MEDICAL ATTENTION, AND I HAD TO CALL 911.

18:29:34 SHE DID FORTUNATELY GET THE HELP SHE NEEDED IN TIME,

18:29:36 BUT I COULDN'T HELP TO THINK AT THAT TIME HOW

18:29:40 DIFFERENTLY THINGS COULD HAVE TURNED OUT HAD THAT

18:29:42 HAPPENED AT ONE OF THE THOSE MANY TIMES WHEN ACCESS TO

18:29:46 OUR HOMES ARE IMPEDED BY THE HEAVY PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC,

18:29:50 CAR TRAFFIC, BRIDGE CLOSURES, ROAD CLOSURES THAT HAPPEN

18:29:53 DUE TO ONE OR SEVERAL EVENTS AT THE SAME TIME THAT

18:29:54 HAPPEN AROUND THE ISLAND.

18:29:57 I DID REACH OUT TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AFTERWARDS TO

18:29:58 THANK THEM.

18:30:01 AND I ALSO WANTED TO ASK THEM HOW THEY HANDLE THOSE

18:30:04 DIFFICULT TIMES AND IF THE RAPID GROWTH IN DOWNTOWN IS

18:30:07 AFFECTING THEIR ABILITY TO DO THEIR JOB.

18:30:09 I WAS TOLD IN FACT THAT THEY HAVE MADE REQUESTS FOR

18:30:15 ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND FIRE STATIONS TO KEEP PACE

18:30:18 WITH THE RAPID GROWTH IN THIS AREA.

18:30:20 AND IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WHERE EVERY MINUTE COUNT

18:30:24 OBVIOUSLY, HAVING THOSE COULD MEAN THE DIFFERENCE

18:30:27 BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH AND HAVING THIS INFORMATION

18:30:31 RAISE MIND CONCERNS OF PROPOSED HOTEL OUTSIDE OUR MAIN

18:30:37 ENTRANCE AND HOW THAT CAN FURTHER EXACERBATE THE

18:30:40 SITUATIONS WE HAVE AND AFFECT RESPONSE TIME TO THE

18:30:41 ISLAND.

18:30:43 I UNDERSTAND TAMPA HAS GROWING PAINS BUT AN UNIQUE

18:30:46 SITUATION IN HARBOUR ISLAND WHERE WE ARE WITH BAYSHORE

18:30:50 AND THE PARADES, DOWNTOWN, THE CONVENTION CENTER, THE

18:30:51 AMALIE.

18:30:54 WITH ONLY THE TWO POINTS OF ENTRY THAT WERE DISCUSSED,

18:30:57 ALL THE GROWTH THAT IS HAPPENING DOWN THERE WITH WATER

18:30:59 STREET AND THE EXPANSION WITH THAT.

18:31:02 IT -- JUST THE SITUATION SEEMS TO BE GETTING WORSE.

18:31:06 SO NEEDLESS TO SAY, OUR AREA IS BOOMING AND A LOT OF

18:31:11 UPSIDES TO THAT AND ALSO THE LIMITATIONS WHEN THE BOOM

18:31:13 REACHED RIGHT OUTSIDE OUR FRONT YARD.

18:31:15 ALL WE ARE ASKING THAT THE LAND BE USED AS IT WAS

18:31:18 INTENDED AND RESPECT THE FACTS THAT THE RESIDENTS OF

18:31:23 THE ISLAND AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE ALREADY

18:31:25 STRUGGLING WITH THE GROWTH EXPLOSION THAT ARE AFFECTING

18:31:29 OUR ACCESS, SCHEDULES AND POTENTIALLY OUR SAFETY.

18:31:31 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:31:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

18:31:37 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

18:31:40 AARON HOEFEN, GENERAL MANAGER OF THE AC HOTEL IN

18:31:42 WESTSHORE.

18:31:47 420 WEST BOY SCOUT BOULEVARD.

18:31:47 I WAS SWORN IN.

18:31:50 I'M HERE WITH ZERO TIES TO THIS PROJECT.

18:31:53 I'M HERE IN FAVOR OF THE BUILD.

18:31:58 I WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME DETAILS ABOUT HOW MY HOTEL

18:31:59 RUNS.

18:32:00 I AM 175 ROOMS.

18:32:01 25 ROOMS LARGER.

18:32:06 150 PARKING SPACES ADJACENT TO THE HOTEL.

18:32:09 IT IS VERY RARE THAT WE GET BEYOND 25% CAPACITY OF THAT

18:32:11 PARKING.

18:32:14 WE DO NOT MONETIZE THE PARKING.

18:32:16 WE DON'T SELL THE PROPERTY IN ANY WAY.

18:32:18 NOW, AGAIN, I AM NOT CONNECTED WITH THE MANAGEMENT NOR

18:32:21 THE OWNERSHIP OF THIS BUILD.

18:32:23 TRAFFIC IS VERY LIMITED.

18:32:27 WE FIND THAT OUR SEASONED GUESTS THAT COME TO AN AC

18:32:30 HOTEL -- THEY ARE COMING THROUGH RIDE SHARE.

18:32:33 THEY ARE GENERALLY GOING TO GET TO WHERE THEY GO TO --

18:32:35 THEY ARE GOING TO THE CLOSEST PLACE TO THEIR BUSINESS

18:32:38 OR THE BUSINESS THEY ARE HERE TO SEE.

18:32:39 THEY ARE DOING A LOT OF WALKING.

18:32:44 THE WAY AC HOTELS ARE BUILT AND PLANNED IS WHERE THERE

18:32:47 IS WALKABLE RESTAURANTS, WALKABLE NIGHT LIFE.

18:32:49 WE WILL SEE A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.

18:32:53 ARRIVAL PATTERNS TEND TO BE 9 A.M. UNTIL 11 P.M. IT IS

18:32:55 SPACED OUT THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

18:32:58 WE DON'T FIND THAT PEOPLE ARE SHOWING UP ALL AT ONE

18:33:01 TIME UNLESS THERE IS AN EVENT IN THE AREA.

18:33:03 TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.

18:33:04 I WORKED AT MARRIOTT WATER STREET.

18:33:08 I UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS OVER THERE AND HOW

18:33:13 THE -- THE TWO EVENT CENTERS CAN CONGEST THAT AREA.

18:33:16 I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS HOTEL WILL BE A PART OF THAT.

18:33:20 MEETING SPACE IS VERY SMALL IN THESE HOTELS.

18:33:21 VERY SMALL.

18:33:25 AND WE FIND THAT IT'S GOING TO BE INHOUSE GUESTS THAT

18:33:27 ARE GOING DOWN TO THE MEETINGS.

18:33:29 THAT WILL BE THE DRAW FOR.

18:33:32 WE FIND THE LOCAL BUSINESSES AND LOCAL RESIDENCES USE

18:33:36 SMALL SPACES TO CONDUCT THEIR OWN BUSINESS IN A PLACE

18:33:36 CLOSE TO HOME.

18:33:40 WE FIND A LOT OF LOCAL ENGAGEMENT IN OUR LOUNGE MAINLY,

18:33:42 BUT ALSO BREAKFAST IN THE MORNING.

18:33:45 IT IS A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT

18:33:48 WILL STOP IN FOR COULD HAVE HEY, HAVE IMPROMPTU

18:33:54 MEETINGS IN FREE SPACES IN OUR FIRST FLOOR I GUESS

18:33:56 GOVERNMENT PARKING GARAGE IN THIS ONE.

18:34:00 BUT IT IS A GREAT UPSCALE HOTEL.

18:34:02 NOT 17TH IN THE BRAND.

18:34:04 THE HIGHEST GUEST SATISFACTION OF ALL THE MARRIOTT

18:34:08 BRANDS AND THE FASTEST GROWING IN OUR PORTFOLIO.

18:34:10 SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:34:13 ANY QUESTIONS.

18:34:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

18:34:15 >> HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

18:34:17 APPRECIATE IT.

18:34:23 >> HELLO, KEN sTOLTENBERG, KENNEDY BOULEVARD, UNIT 510.

18:34:24 AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

18:34:27 I DON'T LIVE ON HARBOUR ISLAND.

18:34:29 I LIVE IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.

18:34:33 I AM NOT HERE IS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT.

18:34:36 I'M HERE TO SPEAK OF THE PROCESS THAT A DEVELOPER LOOKS

18:34:39 INTO AS YOU MAKE AN INVESTMENT INSPECT COMMUNITY.

18:34:41 YOU KNOW I MADE LARGE INVESTMENTS IN THE CHANNEL

18:34:43 DISTRICT THAT TURNED OUT VERY WELL.

18:34:46 YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE CODE SAYS AND WHAT THE RULES ARE,

18:34:48 AND YOU TRY FOLLOW THEM.

18:34:50 IN THIS CASE THE APPLICANT DID EXACTLY THAT.

18:34:53 I NEVER HAVE SEEN A PROPERTY THAT HAS COME IN THAT HAS

18:34:57 BEEN NAMED CONSISTENT WITH NO VARIANCES OR WAIVERS.

18:34:59 NONE.

18:35:03 SO WHAT THEY ARE SEEKING TO DO MAY NOT BE POPULAR, BUT

18:35:04 IT IS CONSISTENT.

18:35:09 AND I THINK BY NOT TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT, IT MAY

18:35:14 CREATE OTHER UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR OTHER FOLKS

18:35:16 LOOKING TO MAKE POSITIVE INVESTMENTS IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

18:35:22 THANK YOU.

18:35:26 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.

18:35:33 BENNETT PAULEY, A RESIDENT OF DAVIS ISLAND ADO WORK

18:35:35 DOWNTOWN AND I TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE AMENITIES WE HAVE

18:35:36 IN DOWNTOWN.

18:35:39 I GUESS COULD YOU SAY I LIVE, WORK AND PLAY IN

18:35:41 DOWNTOWN.

18:35:45 I ALSO SERVE ON THE TAMPA BAY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

18:35:45 COUNCIL.

18:35:48 I AM A COMMISSIONER ON THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITIES,

18:35:50 BUT NOT HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THEM.

18:35:53 I'M HERE BECAUSE HOTEL PROJECTS LIKE THE AC HOTEL ON

18:35:58 HARBOUR ISLAND HELPS FOLKS LIKE ME TELL A STORY.

18:36:00 THE STORY OF TAMPA TO THE OUTSIDE WORLD.

18:36:04 IT IS A STORY OF A VIBRANT AND GROWING CITY THAT IS

18:36:09 ATTRACTING VISITORS AND WORK FORCE TALENT TO OUR URBAN

18:36:10 CORE IN DROVES.

18:36:12 WE HAVE ALL SEEN IT.

18:36:12 YOU KNOW IT.

18:36:14 YOU HAVE READ THE PAPER.

18:36:17 IN MY CAREER AS A BOARD CERTIFIED CONSTRUCTION LAWYER.

18:36:20 I UNDERSTAND THE FRICTION THAT DOLE DEVELOPS WHEN

18:36:22 DEVELOPMENTS ARE PLANNED NEAR NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THAT

18:36:25 HAPPENS USUALLY IN THE SUBURBS.

18:36:28 HERE FOLKS, WE ARE IN THE URBAN CORE.

18:36:32 AND HARBOUR ISLAND IS A VITAL AND ESSENTIAL PART OF THE

18:36:34 URBAN CORE.

18:36:37 THE URBAN CORE IS WHERE A CITY GENERATES THE ENERGY.

18:36:40 IT GENERATES ITS PASSION AND COMMUNITY SPIRIT.

18:36:45 AND HOTELS LIKE THIS BELONG IN THE URBAN CORE.

18:36:48 I BELIEVE THIS PROJECT WILL ENHANCE TAMPA'S OPPORTUNITY

18:36:51 TO HOST MORE LARGE-SCALE EVENTS AND BRING MORE VISITORS

18:36:55 TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT WILL HELP LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT

18:36:59 NEED THOSE VISITORS AND WILL HELP OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.

18:37:02 LARGER CONFERENCES MEAN MORE VISITORS, MEANS MORE

18:37:04 REVENUE.

18:37:08 THIS DEVELOPER HAS REALLY DONE A LOT TO ACCOMMODATE THE

18:37:09 CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.

18:37:12 I UNDERSTAND IT MAY NOT BE POPULAR FOR THE RESIDENTS

18:37:18 THAT LIVE THERE AND EYE EMPATHIZE WITH THAT.

18:37:21 BUT WE LIVE AND THEY LIVE IN AN URBAN CORE AND THAT IS

18:37:24 WHAT IS LIVING IN AN URBAN CORE IS ABOUT.

18:37:25 YOU ARE GOING HAVE CONSTRUCTION.

18:37:28 YOU ARE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT AND BUS WE

18:37:30 ARE IN A GROWING CITY AND THAT IS WHAT WE NEED IN

18:37:31 TAMPA.

18:37:35 THIS PROJECT IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW A HOTEL CAN

18:37:40 FILL A BUSINESS NEED CREATE JOBS AND ALSO FIT INTO THE

18:37:41 SURROUNDING AREAS.

18:37:45 I COMMEND THE TEAM, THE LIBERTY GROUP FOR LISTENING,

18:37:48 FOR ADJUSTING THEIR PLAN AND MAKING THE ACCOMMODATIONS

18:37:49 THEY HAD.

18:37:52 THE STORY OF TAMPA NEEDS THIS DEVELOPMENT.

18:37:54 AND I ASK YOUR FAVORABLE SUPPORT.

18:37:56 THANK YOU, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

18:38:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:38:04 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL CHAIR CITRO AND

18:38:06 COUNCILMEMBERS.

18:38:09 MY NAME IS BEA BARE.

18:38:14 1,000 SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND, NUMBER 2512.

18:38:16 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

18:38:22 MY OPPOSITION TO THESE ACTIONS HAVE BEEN DETAILED IN

18:38:25 CORRESPONDENCE TO YOU AND TO MARRIOTT'S CEO OF WHICH

18:38:26 YOU WERE COPIED.

18:38:31 I KEEP MULLING OVER IN MY MIND WHAT VALUE WILL THIS

18:38:33 PROJECT BRING TO TAMPA BAY.

18:38:38 BESIDES ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUES, I AM HARD-PRESSED TO

18:38:42 COME UPANY REDEEMING QUALITIES IT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO

18:38:46 TAMPA'S PROGRESS AS DESIGNED.

18:38:51 LIBERTY GROUP PROMOTES THE HOTEL AS ICONIC.

18:38:56 MANY AGE TIFFS COME TO MIND THAT DESCRIBE THIS PROJECT;

18:39:02 HOWEVER, NONE ARE SYNONYMOUS WITH ICONIC.

18:39:06 LIBERTY GROUP STANDS WITH THE CLAIM THAT IT WILL ABU

18:39:06 TEAK HOTEL.

18:39:07 REALLY?

18:39:11 BOUTIQUE HOTELS ARE INTIMATE, HAVE A COZY AMBIENCE,

18:39:13 THAT HAVE A THEME PRESENT THROUGHOUT THE HOTEL.

18:39:17 AN EXAMPLE IS HOTEL AIYN YBOR.

18:39:20 AND LOOK HOW IT RESPECTED, EMBRACED AND PROUDLY

18:39:25 INTEGRATED YBOR'S RICH LEGACIES INTO ITS PROPERTY.

18:39:31 EVEN ITS RESTAURANT NAME, CROW ABOUT ITS HERITAGE.

18:39:33 A BOUTIQUE HOTEL HAS STYLE.

18:39:37 IT HAS BY NASH.

18:39:38 PINACHE.

18:39:40 IN PROPOSED HOTEL.

18:39:43 THE STRUCTURE IS A COLD CONCRETE STEEL AND GLASS

18:39:47 BUILDING THAT IS COMPLETELY VOID OF A PERSONALITY.

18:39:51 IT IS AN OVERSIZED TRAFFIC-INDUCING, UNIMAGINE I HAVE

18:39:55 IT EYESORE THAT COULD POSSIBLY LOOK GREAT ELSEWHERE,

18:39:57 BUT NOT ON HARBOUR ISLAND.

18:40:01 THAT LIBERTY GROUP'S OPEN HOUSE MEETING I URGE $MR.

18:40:04 SHAW TO DO SOMETHING WE COULD BE PROUD OF.

18:40:08 SOMETHING SMALL, UNIQUE, ATTRACTIVE AND COMPATIBLE WITH

18:40:11 HARBOUR ISLAND'S ATTRIBUTES.

18:40:12 SOMETHING WELCOMED.

18:40:14 SOMETHING TRULY ICONIC.

18:40:18 HE HAS THE WHEREWITHAL TO DO THAT.

18:40:23 CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE, ENSURE TAMPA'S QUEST FOR FURTHER

18:40:27 GREATNESS BY ENVISIONING SOMETHING FOR THAT SITE THAT

18:40:30 ADDS TO TAMPA'S CHARACTER AND SETS US APART FROM OTHER

18:40:33 COMMUNITIES INSTEAD OF IMPROVING SOMETHING THAT IS

18:40:38 STRONGLY OPPOSED AND COULD BE ANYWHERE USA.

18:40:42 IN MAKING YOUR IS HE SIGNIFICANCES THIS EVENING, PLEASE

18:40:48 DO NOT CONDEMN US TO MEDIOCRITY.

18:40:49 THANK YOU.

18:40:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

18:40:52 >> MAY I ASK ONE HOUSEKEEPING QUESTION?

18:40:55 ON THE SIGN IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING -- IN FRONT OF THE

18:41:01 BUILDING OF THE NOTICE FOR REZONING REZ 21-52.

18:41:06 THERE IS A SECOND SIGN THAT TALKS ABOUT A USE CHANGE

18:41:09 CASE NPC 22-2.

18:41:11 IS THAT -- IS THAT WITHIN THIS?

18:41:14 I AM TALKING ABOUT THE SIGN THAT IS IN FRONT OF 800

18:41:17 HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD.

18:41:21 AND I BELIEVE IT HAD TODAY -- IT HAD TODAY'S DATE ON

18:41:21 IT.

18:41:23 I AM JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.

18:41:25 THERE ARE TWO SIGNS IN FRONT OF THAT PROPERTY.

18:41:32 ONE HAS THE REZ AND THIS OTHER ONE IS N PC.

18:41:36 IS IT?

18:41:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CREMER?

18:41:42 >> JAKE CREMER FOR THE RECORD.

18:41:44 I THINK THIS GENTLEMAN IS TALKING OF THE NOTICE OF

18:41:46 PROPOSED CHANGE SIGN.

18:41:49 THAT IS THE OTHER ITEM WE ARE HEARING SIMULTANEOUSLY

18:41:51 TONIGHT.

18:41:53 TWO ITEMS WE ARE HEARING BOTH.

18:41:54 >> WE ARE TALKING OF BOTH THINGS.

18:41:56 THAT IS ALL.

18:41:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CORRECT.

18:41:59 >> EXCUSE ME.

18:42:01 I WILL TRY NOT TO BE REDUNDANT.

18:42:02 A LOT OF GREAT COMMENTS.

18:42:07 MYSELF AND MY WIFE HAVE -- I AM GREG FAGIOLI.

18:42:09 I LIVE ON HARBOR COURT.

18:42:09 YOU HEARD THAT NAME.

18:42:14 I AND MY WIFE LIVED THERE AND I LIVED IT FOR SINCE 19

18:42:20 -- EXCUSE ME SINCE 1999.

18:42:22 MY WIFE AND I ARE FIRMLY AGAINST THIS.

18:42:24 RATHER THAN BE REDUNDANT.

18:42:25 BRING UP A FEW FACTS.

18:42:30 SOME THAT I HAVE READ THAT THE HARBOUR ISLAND IS -- IS

18:42:36 -- POSSESSES 283% MORE POPULATION THAN THE AVERAGE IN

18:42:37 TAMPA.

18:42:40 ALREADY HAVE WAY MORE POPULATION DENSITY ON THE HARBOUR

18:42:41 ISLAND.

18:42:44 ALL THIS IS GOING TO DO IS BRING A LITTLE BIT MORE.

18:42:49 I UNDERSTAND ABOUT NOT BEING AN EXPERT, BUT I GUESS ALL

18:42:52 THE FOLKS THAT YOU HEAR THAT AREN'T FOR THIS ARE

18:42:54 EXPERTS BECAUSE WE LIVE THERE.

18:42:57 WE GO THROUGH THOSE INTERSECTIONS ALL THE TIME.

18:42:58 WE LOOK THERE.

18:43:00 I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT SOMEBODY

18:43:02 MIGHT HAVE, BECAUSE I AM THERE.

18:43:04 I UNDERSTAND.

18:43:08 THE NEXT THING IS SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT OTHER

18:43:09 PLACES.

18:43:12 AND WE BROUGHT UP YBOR CITY.

18:43:15 CERTAINLY PLACES LIKE RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM AREA, YBOR

18:43:19 CITY, RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS, EVEN ON DAVIS ISLAND SINCE THE

18:43:23 GENTLEMAN MENTIONED IT, THERE IS A NEED AND A LOT OF

18:43:25 OTHER PLACES RATHER THAN PUTTING IT ON THE HARBOUR

18:43:26 ISLAND.

18:43:29 THE OTHER THING IS, THE GENTLEMAN LEFT WAS TWO SPEAKERS

18:43:31 BEFORE ME, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT HE

18:43:36 COMMENTED THAT THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE VOTERS ARE NOT IN

18:43:38 FAVOR OF THIS.

18:43:42 SO I HAVEN'T MET ANYBODY ON HARBOUR ISLAND AND OVER THE

18:43:45 LAST FEW MONTHS THAT HAS BEEN IN FAVOR OF THIS.

18:43:50 SO I WOULD ALSO SAY SINCE WE HAVE THIS POSTED --

18:43:53 POSTAGE STAMP SIZE WE WANT TO BUILD THIS COLUMN ON,

18:43:56 JUST BECAUSE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY AND VACANT LAND

18:43:58 DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO BUILD ON IT.

18:43:59 IT DOESN'T MEAN IT.

18:44:02 YOU CAN JUST LEAVE IT JUST THE WAY IT IS.

18:44:03 AND NO HARM, NO FOUL.

18:44:05 THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

18:44:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

18:44:15 >> MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

18:44:17 GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD EVENING.

18:44:21 BOB MORRISON AND I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY -- ACTUALLY

18:44:22 WITH TWO PERSPECTIVES.

18:44:24 AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

18:44:28 FIRST, I SERVE AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HILLSBOROUGH

18:44:31 COUNTY'S HOTEL AND MOTEL ASSOCIATION.

18:44:35 SECONDLY, SOME OF YOU ARE AWARE THAT I ACTUALLY WAS

18:44:40 PART OF THE CITY LEADERSHIP TEAM IN THE 1980S WHEN

18:44:45 HARBOUR ISLAND WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT TO THE TABLE BY

18:44:47 BENEFICIAL FINANCE.

18:44:49 SO I COME TO YOU THIS EVENING FROM THOSE TWO

18:44:50 PERSPECTIVES.

18:44:55 I AM STANDING HERE IN FAVOR OF AGENDA ITEMS 2 AND 3.

18:44:57 HERE ARE THE REASONS WHY.

18:45:01 NUMBER ONE, WHEN WE TALK OF HOTELS IN TODAY'S

18:45:05 ENVIRONMENT, THERE IS A CONCEPT CALLED GRAND STANDARDS.

18:45:09 WHICH MEANS THAT THERE IS A QUALITY CONTROL ELEMENT

18:45:14 THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE OWNER, SEPARATE FROM THE

18:45:18 MANAGEMENT TEAM, WHERE IN THIS INSTANCE, MARRIOTT COME

18:45:24 IN PERIODICALLY AND DICTATES IMPROVEMENTS, UPGRADES,

18:45:29 EVEN DURING RECESSIONARY PERIODS TO ENSURE THAT THE

18:45:31 BRAND REPUTATION IS MAINTAINED.

18:45:38 SECONDLY, ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE OF THE REALITY OF

18:45:39 TRANSPORTATION APPS.

18:45:43 THOSE APPS HAVE DRAMATICALLY SHIFTED THE IMPACT THAT

18:45:46 TRAFFIC USED TO HAVE AT OUR HOTEL PROPERTIES.

18:45:52 YOU HEARD AARON FROM AC ON BOY SCOUT BOULEVARD DESCRIBE

18:45:55 WHAT IS NOW HAPPENING WITH HIS PARKING.

18:45:57 WE ARE FINDING MORE AND MORE THAT WHERE THERE IS

18:46:01 LIMITED MEETING SPACE IN THE FACILITY, THAT THE NEED

18:46:05 FOR PARKING OR THE IMPACT OF OVERFLOW PARKING IS

18:46:10 DRAMATICALLY OFFSET BY THESE TRANSPORTATION APPS, EVEN

18:46:14 TAXIS NOW OPERATE WITH THIS APP TECHNOLOGY.

18:46:19 THIRDLY, WHAT WE ALSO -- WHAT WE WILL SHARE WITH YOU IS

18:46:23 THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW THIS PROPERTY WILL ULTIMATELY

18:46:27 OPERATE, ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THESE HOTELS AND THE

18:46:31 HOTEL INDUSTRY IS JOB CREATION.

18:46:34 NOT JUST HIGH-END JOBS.

18:46:39 B FROM ENTRY LEVEL, REQUIRING HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS TO

18:46:39 GRADUATE DEGREES.

18:46:43 AS A COMMUNITY, AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, IT IS SO

18:46:47 IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE WHO

18:46:50 ARE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

18:46:54 WORK AND THE BUSINESSES AS THEY -- THAT THEY WORK FOR

18:46:56 HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW.

18:47:01 FINALLY I WILL CLOSE WITH THIS OBSERVATION.

18:47:07 IN 1982, THERE WAS A VERY CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THAT

18:47:13 THERE WAS A DEMARCATION BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL SOUTH

18:47:17 NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE MORE COMMERCIAL NORTH NEIGHBORHOOD

18:47:21 OR NORTH SECTION OF THE ISLAND.

18:47:24 AS A RESULT, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE IS YOU COMPATIBLE.

18:47:25 THANK YOU.

18:47:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.

18:47:38 >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS FRAN LAVANDERA.

18:47:39 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

18:47:41 A 30-YEAR RESIDENT.

18:47:44 MY DECEASED HUSBAND WAS AN ORIGINAL HOMEOWNER THERE AND

18:47:48 PRESIDENT OF THE HARBOUR ISLAND HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION

18:47:52 WHICH MR. REFERENCE MENTIONED IS THE SEVEN-STORY

18:47:56 CONDOMINIUMS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE HEALTH CLUB.

18:47:58 I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO REALIZE WHEN

18:48:01 HE STATES THAT THE HOTEL IS -- THAT OUR GATE IS SOUTH

18:48:02 OF THE HOTEL.

18:48:04 IT IS IMMEDIATELY SOUTH.

18:48:07 IT IS ABOUT ONE CAR LENGTH FROM THEIR LOADING DOCK.

18:48:10 AND NOW THE SHARED PARKING BETWEEN THE HEALTH CLUB AND

18:48:12 THAT BUILDING.

18:48:14 HALF OF THE PEOPLE THAT GO TO THE HEALTH CLUB AT A

18:48:16 MINIMUM LIVE ON HARBOUR ISLAND.

18:48:20 THEY ARE ALREADY TRAVELLING TO THE ISLAND.

18:48:24 I JUST DO NOT SEE HOW THIS IN ANY WAY BE BENEFICIAL TO

18:48:24 US.

18:48:26 I THINK IT IS GOING TO IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:48:29 AND, AGAIN, I THINK THAT IS THE IMPORTANT WORD

18:48:29 "NEIGHBORHOOD."

18:48:33 THIS IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:48:37 THIS IS WHERE WE TRAVEL IN AND OUT EVERY DAY.

18:48:40 AND THE TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS ALREADY.

18:48:43 IT WAS VERY NAIVE OF THAT GENTLEMAN FROM THE AC OF

18:48:48 WESTSHORE TO COMPARE HIS HOTEL FOR WHAT THIS WILL

18:48:50 PROSPECTIVELY BE.

18:48:53 IF YOU TRAVEL ANYWHERE OFF OF THE ISLAND IN CHANNELSIDE

18:48:57 IF THERE IS AN EVENT, A FOOTBALL GAME, A HOCKEY GAME, A

18:48:58 CONVENTION.

18:49:00 PEOPLE ARE LINED UP TO GET INTO THE MARRIOTT.

18:49:03 THEY ARE LINED UP TO GET INTO THE HARBOUR ISLAND HOTEL

18:49:06 TO REGISTER, THE EMBASSY SUITES, ALL OF THEM.

18:49:09 THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO BRING TO OUR DATE.

18:49:12 THE COMIC CON PEOPLE, THE METRO CON PEOPLE.

18:49:17 ALL OF THE CONVENTIONERS THEY ARE PROPOSING TO BRING TO

18:49:20 OUR GATE, THE FRONT DOORS OF OUR HOME.

18:49:21 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

18:49:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

18:49:28 >> GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE CHAIRMAN CITRO.

18:49:30 HONORABLE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF AND

18:49:34 OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC HERE WARM APPROXIMATING.

18:49:42 SANTIAGO CORRATO.

18:49:44 >> THE OF -- TAMPA BAY.

18:49:47 TOUR CIVIL A ECONOMIC DRIVE FOR US.

18:49:50 OVER THE LAST TEN OR SO YEARS, WE HAVE BUILT A

18:49:54 DESTINATION BRAND THAT HAS REACHED EPIC PROPORTIONS

18:49:58 VISITATION FROM LEISURE TRAVELERS, INTERNATIONAL,

18:50:01 CONVENTIONS, EVENTS AND MEETINGS.

18:50:04 I WILL SAY SO SUCCESSFUL THAT RIGHT NOW HOTEL OCCUPANCY

18:50:08 IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS IN THE HIGH 80S.

18:50:10 MEANING THAT THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT WE ARE SPENDING

18:50:15 TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON COLLECTIVELY, AND WE CAN

18:50:20 ALL SEE THAT, REALLY NEEDS MORE HOTEL INVENTORY.

18:50:23 YOU KNOW I -- I AM VERY SENSITIVE TO MY FRIENDS ON

18:50:23 HARBOUR ISLAND.

18:50:29 I SERVED AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ADMINISTRATOR WITH THE CITY

18:50:31 OF TAMPA AND CHIEF OF STAFF AND I UNDERSTAND ALL THE

18:50:32 PERSPECTIVES.

18:50:34 I THINK WHEN OVER 30 YEARS AGO THE CITY INVESTED IN A

18:50:38 CONVENTION CENTER, THIS WAS THE NEARBY DEVELOPMENT THAT

18:50:42 THAT CONVENTION CENTER WAS SUPPOSED TO DRIVE.

18:50:48 HOTELS THAT WOULD BE FILLED WITH CONVENTIONEERS AND

18:50:51 MEETINGS THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO OUR ECONOMY.

18:50:55 QUITE HONESTLY A HOTEL PROPERTY IS NOT JUST A HOTEL

18:50:57 PROPERTY AND DOES NOT JUST PROVIDE JOBS TO OUR

18:50:58 NEIGHBORS.

18:51:01 THAT PROPERTY WILL PAY CITY AND COUNTY TAXES.

18:51:02 WILL BUY WATER FROM THE CITY.

18:51:05 WILL PAY THE CITY FOR WASTE SERVICES.

18:51:09 AND ALSO WILL PAY TECO FOR POWER AND ELECTRIC WHICH

18:51:12 MEANS THAT WE ARE ALSO BENEFITING FROM THOSE TAXES AND

18:51:17 QUITE HONESTLY, THE REASON ALL FLORIDIANS HAVE NO NORTH

18:51:20 CAROLINA TAX IS BECAUSE TOUR CIVIL A DRIVER TO OUR

18:51:22 SALES TAX.

18:51:25 AND OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER IN THE STATE HAVE HAD

18:51:29 OVER A QUARTER OF FLORIDA SALES TAX IS DERIVED FROM

18:51:30 VISITORS.

18:51:33 AND SO THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT COME AND SUPPORT OUR

18:51:36 QUALITY OF LIFE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE SERVICES

18:51:36 FOR.

18:51:39 SO I APOLOGIZE TO MY GOOD FRIENDS IN HARBOUR ISLAND

18:51:43 MANY SAY GOOD JOB IN YOUR TESTIMONY TONIGHT.

18:51:46 BUT ECONOMICALLY AND FOR THE SUPPORT OF OUR TAMPA

18:51:51 CONVENTION CENTER, ANOTHER HOTEL IS NEEDED, AND

18:51:55 UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS WITHIN THE VICINITY OF THE TAMPA

18:51:56 CONVENTION CENTER.

18:51:57 I WANT TO THANK YOU.

18:52:00 GREAT TO BE BACK HOME EVEN UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES.

18:52:02 IT HAS BEEN NINE YEARS SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE.

18:52:05 AND IT IS ALWAYS AN HONOR TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU.

18:52:07 THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING ME WITH THE OPPORTUNITY.

18:52:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

18:52:14 >> HI, SUSAN DOYLE.

18:52:17 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

18:52:21 I LIVE AT 948 HEMINGWAY CIRCLE.

18:52:24 FOR -- IT IS ACTUALLY OUR SECOND RESIDENCE.

18:52:27 WE HAVE BEEN THERE 18 YEARS ON HARBOUR ISLAND.

18:52:30 I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF VERY IMPORTANT POINTS, BUT

18:52:33 NOT BE REDUNDANT.

18:52:37 FIRST OF ALL, I AM -- I AM AN EXPERT ON LIVING ON

18:52:41 HARBOUR ISLAND BUT I AM NOT A EXPERT WITNESS NOR ARE

18:52:45 ANY THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE TESTIFIED WHO DON'T EVEN

18:52:49 LIVE ON HARBOUR ISLAND, SUCH AS THE GENTLEMAN FROM

18:52:51 DAVIS ISLAND AND OTHERS.

18:52:57 BUT I JUST -- I DID SOME RESEARCH ON VISION IMAGINE

18:52:59 2040, TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

18:53:05 AND I SAW SOME IMPORTANT HIGHLIGHTS.

18:53:07 DEFINING WHAT A LIVABLE CITY IS.

18:53:09 IT FEELS SAFE.

18:53:13 THIS PROPOSAL WILL NOT MAKE OVER 3,000 RESIDENTS NOR

18:53:18 ANY OF THE PEDESTRIANS OR THE SCOOTERS, THE PEDESTRIANS

18:53:21 WHO VISIT THE CONVENTION CENTER FEEL VERY SAFE.

18:53:24 I CAN ASSURE YOU OF THAT.

18:53:27 THE -- THIS HOTEL WILL NOT OFFER THIS SORT OF

18:53:31 OPPORTUNITY THAT 40 YEARS OF HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE PAID

18:53:36 SUBSTANTIAL PROPERTY TAXES AND HAVE BEEN THE DRIVER OF

18:53:38 -- OF OUR DOWNTOWN AREA.

18:53:43 I MEAN, WHEN JEFF -- WHEN SPP BOUGHT THE 40 ACRES,

18:53:44 THERE WERE EMPTY PARKING LOTS.

18:53:47 SO WHO IS TALKING ABOUT AN ECONOMIC DRIVER.

18:53:49 WE WERE THE DRIVERS OF DOWNTOWN.

18:53:55 AND WE CREATED A SAFE LITTLE COMMUNITY FOR OURSELVES.

18:53:58 THE OTHER THING IS, A LIVABLE CITY HAS TO BE

18:54:00 ATTRACTIVE.

18:54:02 THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT ATTRACTIVE AT ALL.

18:54:07 AND I WELCOME MISS HURTAK, WHO DIME VISIT OUR AREA.

18:54:10 BALK YOU CAN SEE THE LINE OF DEMARCATION.

18:54:13 SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD IS A PRIVATE COMMUNITY.

18:54:15 THAT IS WHO WE ARE.

18:54:21 3,000 OF US, WALKING AREAS, DOG WALKING, CHILDREN WHO

18:54:25 WAIT FOR BUSES TWICE A DAY, TRANSPORTED.

18:54:28 THIS HOTEL WILL PUT ALL OF US AT RISK.

18:54:35 AND SO I SAY ONE LAST THING TO YOU.

18:54:38 YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU ARE OUR GUARDIANS.

18:54:43 WE HAVE GIVEN YOU THROUGH OUR VOTES CONSERVATORSHIP OF

18:54:45 ALL THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.

18:54:51 DO THE RIGHT THING, PLEASE.

18:54:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

18:54:58 >> SAM HALLENBECK.

18:55:01 I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF HARBOUR ISLAND FOR 23 YEARS.

18:55:03 AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

18:55:08 MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THIS PROJECT IS PRIMARILY WHERE

18:55:11 IT IS BEING PLACED AND THE ORIENTATION OF IT.

18:55:13 THAT IS OUR WEST GATE.

18:55:17 AND WE WILL BE STARING AS WE ENTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS

18:55:20 WE LEAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SQUARELY INTO THE REAR ENDS

18:55:24 OF THIS THING GIVEN THE GARBAGE AREA.

18:55:27 AND ALL THE HARDWARE, THE PIPING, THE DUMPSTERS, THE

18:55:30 GREASE TRAPS AND THE LIKE ALL SET TO THE TUNE OF

18:55:33 BEEPING TRASH TRUCKS, DELIVERY TRUCKS AND ROARING

18:55:35 EXHAUST FANS.

18:55:38 LET'S NOT FORGET THE FAY LOS ANGELES.

18:55:43 SECURITY LIGHTS THAT WILL STAIR US STRAIGHT INTO --

18:55:45 STARE US STRAIGHT INTO THE WINDOWS.

18:55:48 THEY SAID THEY WILL KEEP THE GARAGE DOOR CLOSE $.

18:55:51 YOU LOOK THROUGH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE HIGH-RISES,

18:55:53 MOST OF THE TIME THEY ARE NOT CLOSED.

18:55:55 THEY ARE WIDE OPEN WITH THE PIPING AND OTHER STUFF

18:55:57 GOING ON.

18:55:59 THE DEVELOPERS SAY THE LOT IS MIXED USE.

18:56:02 WE HAVE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT MIXED USE TONIGHT.

18:56:06 AND THAT ABSOLUTELY NEGATES THE ISLAND'S EXECUTION.

18:56:09 EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THE KNIGHT'S RUN MEDIAN IS BY

18:56:13 DESIGN A PARK-LIKE SUBURBAN OASIS IN THE MIDDLE.

18:56:16 CITY AND THAT LAND DOES NOT SERVE AS AN EXTENSION OF

18:56:20 THE CITY'S DOWNTOWN INDUSTRIAL AESTHETICS.

18:56:24 IF THIS HOTEL GOES UP IT WILL SPIT INTO THE COLLECTIVE

18:56:28 FACE OF EVERYTHING WE BUILT THERE AND DOES NOTHING MORE

18:56:31 THAN TO PAVE THE WAY FOR ONE GROUP OF INVESTORS TO MAKE

18:56:34 THE BUCK OF THE EXPENSE OF 3,000 PEOPLE WHO LIVE FULL

18:56:36 TIME BACK BEHIND THOSE GATES AND NOTHING SHORT OF

18:56:37 PATHETIC.

18:56:39 THANK YOU.

18:56:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

18:56:45 >> MY NAME IS WAYNE CURTIS.

18:56:48 I LIVE AT 330 INNER HARBOR CIRCLE IN HARBOUR ISLAND

18:56:51 WITH MY WIFE, ROSEMARY.

18:56:53 THE BEAUTIFUL WOMAN BEHIND ME.

18:56:56 AND I ACTUALLY THINK A LOT OF WHAT THE SPEAKERS SAID

18:57:01 THAT WERE PRO THE HOTEL IS REASONABLE.

18:57:05 BUT THERE IS ONE ITEM THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED BUT I

18:57:09 JUST REALLY WANT TO DRIVE HOME THE FACT THE HOTEL IS

18:57:10 HERE.

18:57:13 THE GATE TO HARBOUR ISLAND IS LITERALLY -- I THINK IF

18:57:17 YOU GET PROBABLY THREE CARS, ALL THOSE TRUCKS WON'T BE

18:57:20 ABLE TO TURN INTO THE ENTRANCE, THE SHARED ENTRANCE

18:57:25 WITH HARBOUR ISLAND ATHLETIC CLUB WITH THE HOTEL.

18:57:27 IT WILL CAUSE A CATASTROPHIC BACK-UP.

18:57:30 I WOULD SAY IF THEY CAN SOMEHOW BRING ALL THE TRUCKS

18:57:35 OFF OF ABBEY'S WAY, I WOULD FEEL LIKE I AM CUTTING OFF

18:57:37 PART OF MY FARM A COMPROMISE.

18:57:39 I WOULD GIVE THEM -- I GOOD WOULD GRANT THEM THAT

18:57:40 HOTEL.

18:57:42 BUT THE GATE ENTRANCE IS LITERALLY RIGHT HERE.

18:57:46 THE TRUCK ENTRANCE -- MIGHT BE TWO OR THREE CARS BACK.

18:57:49 THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TURN IN.

18:57:53 IT WILL BE CATASTROPHIC AND THEN OF COURSE THE KIDS AND

18:57:54 THE BUSES.

18:57:56 THAT IS AN ISSUE.

18:57:57 THAT COULD ALWAYS BE WORKED OUT.

18:58:00 I AM TELLING YOU -- I KNOW YOU SAW THE ENTRANCE.

18:58:04 YOU GO THERE AT 8:00 IN THE MORNING, 9:00, 10:00 IN THE

18:58:04 MORNING.

18:58:05 THERE ARE PLUMBER TRUCKS.

18:58:07 CARPENTER TRUCKS.

18:58:08 LAWN SERVICE TRUCKS.

18:58:09 WHATEVER.

18:58:10 THEY ARE JUST NO WAY.

18:58:14 SO I WILL TELL THEM IF THEY COULD MAKE THE ENTRANCE OFF

18:58:18 OF KNIGHT'S RUN FOR THE TRUCKS, I CAN LIVE WITH IT, BUT

18:58:21 TO ME THAT IS THE SINGLE BIGGEST -- IT WILL BE

18:58:22 CATASTROPHIC.

18:58:26 IT WILL BE GRIDLOCK AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION

18:58:28 GOES ON, WE ARE ALL ABOUT TO LIVE THROUGH THAT PAIN IF

18:58:30 IT DOES HAPPEN.

18:58:31 I CAN EVEN LIVE WITH THAT.

18:58:34 BUT IT IS -- THAT ENTRANCE FOR THE TRUCKS AND THE

18:58:39 DELIVERY, UNLESS THEY SAID WE WILL HAVE IT DONE FROM 4

18:58:42 A.M. TO 7 A.M. AND WON'T LET IT COME IN.

18:58:45 THAT MAKES IT MORE ACCESSIBLE.

18:58:49 TO ME THE SINGLE BIGGEST THING IS THE CLUSTER TO GET ON

18:58:52 TO HARBOUR ISLAND AND THAT IS OUR ENTRANCE TO OUR HOME.

18:58:56 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:58:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

18:59:01 EXCUSE ME, SIR -- OKAY.

18:59:02 I AM SORRY.

18:59:03 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

18:59:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

18:59:08 GIVE 'BECAUSE A COUPLE OF FOLKS HAVE BROUGHT UP THE

18:59:12 CONSTRUCTION ISSUE WHICH IS A VERY RELEVANT ISSUE ON

18:59:12 NUMEROUS GROUNDS.

18:59:16 BUT NUMBER ONE -- SOLO QUESTION.

18:59:20 WHAT RELEVANCY DOES THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD HAVE ON

18:59:28 CRITERIA USED TO SUPPORT OR DENY A PROJECT?

18:59:30 I AM NEVER HEARD OF IT HAVING.

18:59:32 I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

18:59:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, COUNCIL, I BELIEVE -- I WAS

18:59:39 DISCUSSING THAT WITH MISS WELLS, AND IT -- MISS WELLS,

18:59:41 DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT PLEASE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE

18:59:46 PLAN.

18:59:49 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, CATE WELLS, CHIEF ASSISTANT

18:59:50 CITY ATTORNEY.

18:59:54 I WILL HAVE TO DEFER TO STAFF IN INTERPRETING BOTH THE

18:59:57 CRITERIA IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS WELL AS THE

18:59:58 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

19:00:02 WHEN FIRST RAISED, THE POLICY I THOUGHT ABOUT IN THE

19:00:05 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 9.3.8.

19:00:09 BUT AS I READ IT, I REALIZE WHAT IT SAYS IS, IT IS THE

19:00:11 INTENT OF THE CITY THAT NEW RESIDENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT

19:00:15 PROJECTS SHALL BE MINIMALLY DISRUPTIVE TO ADJACENT

19:00:16 AREAS.

19:00:19 THAT IS, OF COURSE, TALKING OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS AND

19:00:21 NOT A HOTEL OF THIS NATURE.

19:00:24 IF JENNIFER MALONE, IF SHE IS AWARE OF ANY POLICIES IN

19:00:28 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHERE THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE WOULD

19:00:30 COME INTO PLAY IN, I WOULD APPRECIATE IF SHE CAN

19:00:34 RESPOND TO THAT.

19:00:37 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE -- THANK YOU,

19:00:38 JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

19:00:40 I WILL LOOK IN THE PLAN.

19:00:43 I AM UNAWARE OF ANY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

19:00:47 THE ONE THAT MISS WELLS REFERENCED WAS THE FIRST ONE

19:00:48 THINK THAT THOUGHT OF TOO.

19:00:50 IF YOU GIVE ME A MOMENT I WILL LOOK INTO IT.

19:00:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU FINISHED.

19:00:53 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.

19:00:56 I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY CLEARLY WE DON'T NEED AN ANSWER

19:00:59 NOW AND BETTER TO LOOK AT IT AND BE RIGHT THAN

19:01:02 OTHERWISE, I JUST NEVER CONSIDERED THAT IN JUDGING A

19:01:03 PROJECT.

19:01:05 AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT QUESTION.

19:01:06 THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

19:01:08 THANK YOU.

19:01:12 >> THANKS.

19:01:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM SORRY, MADAM.

19:01:18 MISS MALONE, ARE YOU STILL THERE?

19:01:20 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I AM ALWAYS HERE.

19:01:22 YES, HOW CAN I HELP YOU.

19:01:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DID YOU HEAR MY QUESTION TO MISS

19:01:33 MANDELL EARLIER ABOUT WHETHER THE -- THE LINE OF

19:01:38 DEMARCATION BETWEEN THE -- THE INTENSITY AND THE

19:01:39 RESIDENTIAL.

19:01:42 WAS THAT SET BY DESIGN BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND

19:01:44 BY THE CITY?

19:01:46 AND IF SO, WHEN.

19:01:49 BUT WHEN YOU COME BACK TO EVEN COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU

19:01:50 CAN ANSWER MINE.

19:01:51 PLEASE AND THANK YOU.

19:01:53 >>JENNIFER MALONE: SURE, THANK YOU.

19:01:54 I WILL BE BACK.

19:01:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:01:56 YES, MADAM.

19:01:58 THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

19:01:58 >> SURE.

19:02:03 ROSEMARY CURTIS 330 INNER HARBOR CIRCLE.

19:02:06 WHEN I HEARD OF THE PROJECT, MY IMMEDIATE THOUGHT WAS

19:02:08 TRAFFIC AS YOU HEARD FROM EVERYBODY TODAY.

19:02:10 I MEAN, TRAFFIC IS -- TRAFFIC IS REALLY TOUGH.

19:02:15 A GRIDLOCK GETTING ON AND OFF THE ISLAND.

19:02:17 NOT JUST LIGHTNING GAMES BUT OUR SPORTING EVENTS,

19:02:21 CONCERTS AND CONVENTIONS.

19:02:22 THE CONVENTIONS ARE ROUTINE.

19:02:25 RIVER WALK, BOAT PARADES, FIREWORKS CELEBRATION.

19:02:28 ONGOING.

19:02:31 IT IS WONDERFUL, BUT CAUSES A LOT OF TRAFFIC FOR US.

19:02:36 SO YOU MIGHT SAY, OH, WELL THIS -- ONE MORE COMMERCIAL

19:02:37 PROJECT WILL MATTER.

19:02:40 EVERY COMMERCIAL PROJECT MATTERS TO OUR ABILITY TO GET

19:02:42 ON AND OFF THE ISLAND.

19:02:45 I HEARD TONIGHT TODAY ONE OF THE COMPARINGS TO US WITH

19:02:46 CHANNELSIDE.

19:02:48 WE ARE NOTHING LIKE CHANNELSIDE.

19:02:51 CHANNELSIDE IS A GRID.

19:02:55 A MILLION DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET TO POINT A TO POINT B.

19:02:59 WE HAVE ONE WAY TO GET ON AND OFF THE ISLAND.

19:03:04 MY LAST ITEM WAS THE MAIN AS MY HUSBAND'S.

19:03:05 THE ACCESS.

19:03:09 THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO HARBOUR ISLAND IS EXACTLY NEXT TO

19:03:12 WHERE THEY WILL BE GOING AND MY MAIN THING IS -- I

19:03:13 DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE AWARE OF THAT.

19:03:16 SERVICE VEHICLE GOING ON TO HARBOUR ISLAND IS NOT

19:03:19 ALLOWED TO ENTER THROUGH THAT GATE.

19:03:23 NOW CURRENTLY, UNDER OUR EXISTING SITUATION, THEY MUST

19:03:26 GO TO THE EAST GATE.

19:03:30 SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TAKING PROBABLY BIGGER SERVICE

19:03:33 VEHICLES, FUNNELLING THEM INTO THE GUEST LANE WHICH IS

19:03:38 ALREADY BACKED UP, PULLING INTO A VERY TIGHT TURN ON TO

19:03:39 THE PROPERTY.

19:03:42 WHEN I SAW THE SERVICE ENTRANCE, I WAS APPALLED.

19:03:47 TO GO INTO -- PULL THROUGH INTO THE ATHLETIC CLUB

19:03:51 ENTRANCE WITH ALL THE ATHLETIC CLUB MEMBERS OF WHICH I

19:03:56 WAS ONE AND INTO THE SERVICE AREA UNDER THE HOTEL IS A

19:03:58 VERY, VERY TIGHT AREA.

19:04:04 THAT, I THINK, WAS THE MOST -- THE MOST INAPPROPRIATE

19:04:08 THING I SAW IN THE PROJECT WAS WHERE THE SERVICE

19:04:09 ENTRANCE IS.

19:04:14 AND AGAIN, THERE WILL BE SPILLOVER FROM THAT HOTEL INTO

19:04:18 THE HARBOUR ISLAND AND ALREADY IS WITH AMERICAN SOCIAL

19:04:19 AND JACKSONS.

19:04:24 ALREADY PEOPLE PARKING UNAUTHORIZED IN THE HARBOUR

19:04:25 ISLAND LOT.

19:04:28 IMPLICATIONS OF HAVING EVERYTHING IN THIS VERY, VERY

19:04:28 TIGHT ZONE.

19:04:32 I WANT TO LEAVE WITH YOU THIS REMINDER, OUR SERVICE

19:04:35 VEHICLES CURRENTLY DO NOT GO IN THAT ENTRANCE.

19:04:35 THANK YOU.

19:04:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:04:41 >> I AM CHRISTIE WENSON.

19:04:44 316 INNER HARBOR CIRCLE.

19:04:47 A COMMERCIAL INTERIOR DESIGNER.

19:04:50 I WORKED LOCALLY -- I DO CONSULTING WORKS FOR VETERAN

19:04:52 AFFAIRS, MOSTLY OUT IN CALIFORNIA.

19:04:55 I ONLY LIVED IN HARBOUR ISLAND AND I LIVED THERE 22

19:04:57 YEARS NOW.

19:04:59 AND -- SO I HAVE SEEN THE GROWTH AND, YES, IT IS A

19:05:03 STRUGGLE WITH THE TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT, BUT BESIDES THE

19:05:07 TRAFFIC, WE ARE AN UNIQUE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:05:10 YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT IS JUST SO UNIQUE TO HAVE THE

19:05:11 RESIDENCES.

19:05:14 I LOVE THE QUIET, YOU KNOW -- I AM IN THE BUSTLE BUT I

19:05:19 COME BACK ON TO HARBOUR ISLAND AND IT IS LIKE WHEW,

19:05:21 ZEN.

19:05:24 ADDING A HOTEL WILL JUST TAKE AWAY FROM EVERYTHING THAT

19:05:27 WE LOVE AND APPRECIATE ABOUT HARBOUR ISLAND.

19:05:30 AND THEY CLAIM THEY ARE LISTENING TO US.

19:05:33 IT WASN'T UPROAR IN THE LAST MEETING.

19:05:37 I MEAN, I BARELY SPOKE -- HEARD ANYONE THAT WANTS THIS

19:05:37 HOTEL.

19:05:39 THEY CLAIM BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

19:05:45 IF YOU LOOK UP "BOUTIQUE" IT IS TYPICALLY TEN TO 100

19:05:45 ROOMS.

19:05:48 THIS IS -- WHAT, 250.

19:05:50 SO A LOT MORE THAN A BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

19:05:51 BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

19:05:53 IT IS NOT UNIQUE.

19:05:56 IT IS A LOT OF THE CURRENTS DESIGN GOING ON ANYWHERE

19:06:01 YOU GO ON TO ANY CITY.

19:06:04 AND TRAFFIC -- I MEAN, WE DO -- YOU AGAIN, A LOT OF

19:06:06 PEOPLE ADDRESSED THE GATE.

19:06:09 IF OFF LINE OF THREE CARS WAITING TO GET INTO HARBOUR

19:06:14 ISLAND, IT BLOCKS PEOPLE THAT ARE IN LINE TRYING TO GET

19:06:19 INTO THE ATHLETIC CLUB OR THE FUTURE HOTEL.

19:06:22 I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WITH THE VALET, HOW ARE THEY GOING

19:06:27 TO VAT DATE THE PURPOSE OF YOUR VISIT AND PROTECT

19:06:29 PEOPLE FROM PARKING THERE FOR EVENTS.

19:06:32 ARE THEY GOING TO QUESTION THEM, OH, NO -- PEOPLE ARE

19:06:34 GOING TO LIE.

19:06:37 AND I WOULDN'T CONSIDER US THE URBAN CORE.

19:06:41 WE ARE, AGAIN, UNIQUE OUTSKIRTS.

19:06:41 WE ARE RESIDENCES.

19:06:45 YES WE ARE -- IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE GROWTH, I WOULD

19:06:48 RATHER SEE IT ZONED AS IT IS OR MIXED USE WITH MORE

19:06:51 RESIDENCES, RESTAURANTS AND THINGS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY

19:06:55 USE.

19:06:56 THANK YOU.

19:07:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:07:09 >> COUNCILMEMBERS, DR. ROBERT MADDALON, RESIDENT 903

19:07:10 MARINER WAY.

19:07:13 I BOUGHT A CONDO IN 1987.

19:07:15 BUILT A HOUSE THERE IN 1992.

19:07:18 AND I ASK TO YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL.

19:07:23 I SPEAK FOR MYSELF, MY WIFE AND THREE COLLEGE-AGED

19:07:28 CHILDREN ALL REGISTERED VOTERS AT THIS ADDRESS.

19:07:31 SOME OF THIS WILL BE REDUNDANT, BUT IN HOTEL WILL

19:07:34 STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB ONCE YOU CROSS A BRIDGE

19:07:38 FROM HARBOUR ISLAND OVER ON TO HARBOUR ISLAND.

19:07:42 THAT IS OUR MAIN ENTRY POINT FOR HUNDREDS OF HOMES AND

19:07:44 CONDOS.

19:07:47 I WATCH A DEVELOPER ON ZOOM.

19:07:48 THEIR PRESENTATION.

19:07:51 I ATTENDED IT IN PERSON.

19:07:52 THERE ARE STAFFERS.

19:07:55 TRAFFIC STAFFERS SAID THAT -- I SPOKE WITH MR. COHEN IN

19:07:56 PERSON.

19:08:00 HE SAID IT WON'T INCREASE THE TRAFFIC ANYMORE THAN THAT

19:08:01 BANK DID.

19:08:02 WELL, I DON'T BELIEVE IT.

19:08:05 THE BANK WAS RARELY USED.

19:08:09 TO COMPARE THAT TO A 150-ROOM, 24-HOUR HOTEL WITH A

19:08:14 RESTAURANT, BUSINESS MEETINGS, SUPPLIERS, WASTE

19:08:16 DISPOSAL IS INCORRECT, IN MY OPINION.

19:08:22 THERE ARE OCCASIONAL BACK-UPS -- I KNOW THIS IS

19:08:23 REDUNDANT.

19:08:27 OCCASIONAL BACK-UPS NOW INTO THE MAIN ENTRY GATE WHICH

19:08:29 YOU HEARD 20 TIMES SO FAR TODAY.

19:08:34 I FIND IT IRONIC THAT THE ARCHITECTS PICTURE OF THE

19:08:38 CURRENT ENTRY WAY SHOWS A THREE-CAR BACK-UP AT THE MAIN

19:08:38 GATE.

19:08:43 NOW IF YOU ADD HOTEL DELIVERIES, WASTE DISPOSAL, HOTEL

19:08:46 GUESTS USING THE BACK WAY, ALL TRAVELING ON SOUTH

19:08:50 HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD, AND MAKING A LEFT, THAT

19:08:54 CONGESTION IS -- BECOMES MUCH WORSE AND IN ADDITION TO

19:08:59 THE PEOPLE WHO ATTEND HARBOUR ISLAND ATHLETIC CLUB.

19:09:04 WE -- MY FAMILY AND I DO NOT THINK THAT 150-ROOM HOTEL

19:09:07 WILL BENEFIT THE HUNDREDS OF -- OR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE

19:09:12 BEHIND THE GATES ON HARBOUR ISLAND WHO ARE HARMFUL TO

19:09:13 THEM.

19:09:16 THE DEVELOPERS PURCHASED A SMALL LOT AND WANT TO

19:09:17 MAXIMIZE HIS INVESTMENT.

19:09:21 I DON'T BLAME HIM FOR THAT; HOWEVER, THE HUNDREDS OF

19:09:25 HOMEOWNERS AND CONDO OWNERS BEHIND THE GATES ALSO WANT

19:09:29 TO MAINTAIN THEIR CURRENT ENTRY GATEWAY AND VISTA AND

19:09:31 MAINTAIN AND MAXIMIZE THEIR INVESTMENT.

19:09:34 I DON'T THINK THOSE TWO THINGS ARE COMPATIBLE.

19:09:38 ONCE AGAIN, WE ASK TO YOU VOTE DOWN THIS PROPOSAL.

19:09:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

19:09:40 NEXT SPEAKER.

19:09:42 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

19:09:45 >> MY NAME IS BETH ROTHBARTH.

19:09:49 344 INNER HARBOR CIRCLE.

19:09:51 PREVIOUS TO MOVING TO TAMPA, I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR SIX

19:09:52 YEARS.

19:09:54 I LIVE ON HARBOUR ISLAND OBVIOUSLY.

19:09:56 AND I USED TO WORK IN REAL ESTATE.

19:10:00 ECONOMIC FORECASTING, FEASIBILITY STUDIES FOR

19:10:03 DEVELOPERS, INVESTORS, AND ALSO THE GOVERNMENT.

19:10:05 I AM NOT GOING TO BE REDUNDANT.

19:10:08 I AM REALLY GOING TO DISCUSS RIDE SHARES.

19:10:11 BECAUSE THINGS HAVE REALLY CHANGED SINCE AMERICAN

19:10:12 SOCIAL OPENED.

19:10:16 AND THE RIDE SHARES LINING UP TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT

19:10:18 AND DROPPED OFF.

19:10:23 THE UBERS, THE LYFTS, THE TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS

19:10:27 WHENEVER THERE IS ANYTHING MAJOR GOING ON.

19:10:29 THESE DRIVERS DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.

19:10:30 THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET THERE.

19:10:33 THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO PULL OVER.

19:10:37 THIS HOTEL ON THIS TINY LITTLE POSTAGE STAMP OF A

19:10:41 PROPERTY, WHERE ARE THESE UBERS AND LYFTS GOING TO LINE

19:10:42 UP AND WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO.

19:10:44 LET'S SAY THEY GET LOST.

19:10:47 I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TWO WEEKENDS AGO OPINION NO HOCKEY

19:10:48 GAME.

19:10:50 MAY HAVE BEEN SOMETHING GOING ON AT THE CONVENTION

19:10:51 CENTER.

19:10:54 BUT THERE WAS NO HOCKEY TRAFFIC.

19:10:58 AND I COULDN'T MAKE A RIGHT-HAND TURN INTO THE WEST

19:10:58 GATE.

19:11:02 I HAD TO TWICE GO ALL THE WAY AROUND AND GO TO THE EAST

19:11:05 GATE BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC WAS SO SUBSTANTIAL.

19:11:08 THERE WAS ALSO AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE -- AND I KNOW

19:11:11 SOMEBODY ELSE MENTIONED THAT -- STUCK ON THE BRIDGE

19:11:14 WITH THEIR LIGHTS ON.

19:11:15 NOWHERE TO GO.

19:11:18 AND EVERYONE IS JUST SITTING STILL.

19:11:21 SO I THINK THERE IS A REAL SAFETY ISSUE INVOLVED HERE.

19:11:24 SO I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION

19:11:26 AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

19:11:34 AND VOTE AGAINST IT.

19:11:36 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.

19:11:40 RICK MAHARIS AND THE FOUNDER AND OWNER OF AMERICAN BAR

19:11:42 AND KITCHEN IN HARBOUR ISLAND.

19:11:44 I HAVE BEEN A TENANT THERE SINCE 2017.

19:11:48 AND I AM VERY PROUD OF HOW THE COMMUNITY HAS WELCOMED

19:11:52 ME TO JOIN THE HOSPITALITY SECTOR OF DOWNTOWN.

19:11:56 I HAVE PREPARED A FEW WORDS AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO ON

19:11:59 RECORD TO SPEAK THAT TIME IN FAVOR AND HOPE YOU WILL

19:12:05 CONSIDER APPROVING THIS BEAUTIFUL NEW HOTEL.

19:12:09 THIS BUSINESS AND ITS CLIENTELE THAT THIS BEAUTIFUL NEW

19:12:11 HOTEL WILL BRING TO BOTH HARBOUR ISLAND AND DOWNTOWN

19:12:14 TAMPA WILL BE EXCEPTIONAL FOR ALL OF US AS STATED BY

19:12:18 THE GENTLEMAN SANTIAGO AS IT PERTAIN TO THE TOURIST

19:12:22 INDUSTRY, CONVENTION CENTER AND THE RESTAURANTS, NOT

19:12:25 JUST MYSELF AND JACKSON'S THAT SPOKE BUT A HANDFUL OF

19:12:28 OTHER RESTAURANTS ON THE ISLAND THAT WOULD LOVE

19:12:30 ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC BROUGHT TO THE ISLAND.

19:12:34 AS A TENANT OF THAT ISLAND FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, I

19:12:38 HAVE BEEN VERY ACTIVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND SPEND A

19:12:41 GREAT AMOUNT OF TIME ON HARBOUR ISLAND.

19:12:43 ASIDE FROM THE HANDFUL OF EVENTS AT THE CONVENTION

19:12:48 CENTER AND THE AMALIE ARENA, VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC IMPACT

19:12:52 THAT HAS BEEN CONTRIBUTED BY MY BUSINESS [BOOING]

19:12:56 -- [GAVEL SOUNDING]

19:12:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:13:00 DON'T -- DON'T ENTICE, JUST SPEAK TO US.

19:13:03 >> SPEAKING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.

19:13:07 I AM AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE

19:13:09 COMMUNITY AND THE LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT SERVICE OUR

19:13:10 COMMUNITY.

19:13:12 I TRULY BELIEVE THAT PROJECT WILL ADD BOTH PROJECTS TO

19:13:15 HARBOUR ISLAND AND SERVICE THIS COMMUNITY AND HARBOUR

19:13:19 ISLAND IN A PROFESSIONAL AND VALUE-ADDING MANNER.

19:13:23 THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY SERVES US ALL.

19:13:27 AND I HOPE YOU WILL STRONGLY ENCOURAGE SUPPORTING THERE

19:13:27 PROJECT.

19:13:29 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

19:13:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:13:35 >> COUNCIL, MY NAME IS SCOTT HARRISON.

19:13:38 AND I AM A HARBOUR ISLAND RESIDENT, AND I HAVE BEEN

19:13:38 SWORN IN.

19:13:42 I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER LIST THAT TAMPA HAS

19:13:43 MADE.

19:13:48 TAMPA IS IN THE TOP TEN OF PEDESTRIAN, AUTOMOBILE

19:13:50 FATALITIES IN THE COUNTRY.

19:13:54 AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT FATALITIES PER 100,000 PEOPLE,

19:13:56 WE ARE NUMBER 3.

19:14:01 SO I ALSO -- AS MY MOM WILL SAY I USED THE GOOGLE AND

19:14:05 TRIED TO FIND PEDESTRIAN BIKE CRASHES.

19:14:08 I COULDN'T GET SPECIFIC DATA ON TAMPA, BUT TAMPA ST.

19:14:09 PETE IS NUMBER ONE.

19:14:15 AND SO I WOULD ASK YOU IN THAT CONTEXT AS YOU CONSIDER

19:14:19 THIS PROPOSAL, DO YOU WANT TO BE NUMBER ONE.

19:14:22 AND THE OTHER THING SKILL THAT YOU, DO YOU THINK THAT

19:14:27 ONE STORY BANK BUILDING AND 150-ROOM, 160-PARKING SPACE

19:14:30 HOTEL, IF YOU THINK THOSE ARE EQUAL IN TERMS OF THE

19:14:33 TRAFFIC PATTERN, THEN WE ARE WELL ON OUR WAY OF TAKING

19:14:36 THE TOP SPOT IN THIS NOTORIOUS LIST.

19:14:40 AND I WOULD ADD THAT THAT WILL AFFECT TOURISM.

19:14:41 IT WILL AFFECT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

19:14:44 SO THIS ISN'T JUST A SAFETY ISSUE.

19:14:53 THANK YOU.

19:14:56 >> ANDREI NIANTCOTEN.

19:15:00 1167 -- AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

19:15:03 I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT MYSELF -- OR REPEAT THE OTHER

19:15:06 NOTIONS AND TOPICS THAT WERE DISCUSSED.

19:15:08 BUT HERE ARE SOME THINGS FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

19:15:12 I DON'T HAVE A SET AGENDA OF ANY KIND, BUT IF YOU WERE

19:15:15 TRYING TO MAKE TAMPA A BETTER PLACE, YOU HAVE AN EMPTY

19:15:15 LOT.

19:15:19 LOOK AT THE CORNER OF FRANKLIN AND CHANNELSIDE.

19:15:21 THAT LOT IS EMPTY.

19:15:24 YOU CAN TAKE THE PAVILION.

19:15:29 JOB OBJECTED TO THE JW MARRIOTT AND THE EPICURION AND

19:15:31 HYATT IN YBOR.

19:15:34 THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE HERE IS A LITMUS TEST THAT

19:15:35 SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT.

19:15:37 IT IS JUST -- THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAD SUCH A

19:15:42 RESISTANCE FROM SUCH A LARGE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE.

19:15:44 SOMETHING JUST DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT.

19:15:48 THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT HERE FOR NO REASON, OBVIOUSLY.

19:15:50 SO I HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE LONG ENOUGH TO REMIND YOU

19:15:54 THAT THE GATES WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED RIGHT NOW, THIS

19:15:57 IS NOT REALLY WHAT IS CONSIDERED SOUTH OF THE GATES.

19:16:00 GATES WERE ALMOST AT THE FOUR-WAY STOP SIGN.

19:16:05 IT WASN'T UNTIL 96 OR '97 THAT THESE GATES WERE PUSHED

19:16:08 BACK BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT WERE HAPPENING

19:16:09 ALL THE TIME.

19:16:14 AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO PUSH BACK BEYOND THAT.

19:16:17 WHEN -- BEFORE THESE HIGH-RISES EXISTED OVER THERE WITH

19:16:20 THE LITTLE DAILY PLACE BY THE WATERSIDE, ALL THAT

19:16:21 STUFF IS GONE.

19:16:24 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO PUSH BACK

19:16:25 ANY LONGER.

19:16:30 AND FOR THOSE OF HOW ARE BELIEVERS OF INDIANA SEND ITED

19:16:34 CONSEQUENCES, I WILL TELL THAT YOU I MAY BE THE

19:16:35 DOOMSDAY GUY.

19:16:39 20 YEARS FROM NOW, IF YOU ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.

19:16:43 THIS WILL TURN OUT TO BE THE TROJAN HORSE THAT SET THE

19:16:47 INITIAL PRECEDENCE WHEN THE ATHLETIC CLUB WANTS TO

19:16:49 BUILD A 20-STORY HIGH-RISE.

19:16:52 THIS WILL BE USE AS A PRECEDENT TO SAY, WELL, WE

19:16:53 ALLOWED THIS THING.

19:16:57 WE WILL KEEN ALLOWING MORE AND MORE OF THIS TO HAPPEN.

19:17:02 SO I DON'T KNOW WHICH GENERAL OR ROMAN EMPEROR SAID A

19:17:07 WELL ORGANIZED MINORITY WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL ABOVE A --

19:17:09 ABOVE AN UNORGANIZED MAJORITY.

19:17:12 YOU SEE HOW ORGANIZED AND FUNDED THESE PEOPLE ARE.

19:17:15 WE BROUGHT -- WE BROUGHT SOME CRONIES HERE AND GUYS OF

19:17:17 INDEPENDENT OPINIONS.

19:17:21 THEY ARE EXTREMELY ORGANIZED.

19:17:25 I GUESS IF I AM A COUNCILMAN AND HAVING DRINKS WITH MY

19:17:29 FAMILY TONIGHT, I CAN SEE IT AS, HEY, A GROUP OF RICH

19:17:31 PEOPLE AGAINST ANOTHER GROUP OF RICH PEOPLE HERE, BUT

19:17:35 FOR THE LIFE OF ME, LET'S NOT ALLOW A WELL ORGANIZED

19:17:37 MINORITY TO PREVAIL HERE.

19:17:38 THANK YOU.

19:17:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:17:45 >> GOOD EVENING.

19:17:48 I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN COME UP ON THE SCREEN OR NOT.

19:17:52 I AM MIKE GRATZ.

19:17:55 I LIVE WITH ON HARBOR BAY DRIVE.

19:17:57 A RESIDENT OF HARBOUR ISLAND.

19:18:00 THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF HARBOUR ISLAND COMMUNITY

19:18:06 SERVICES O, REFERRED WHO AS HICSA.

19:18:08 I'M HERE TO SET THE RECORD FREIGHT WHAT IS THE CALL OF

19:18:10 MIXED USE HARBOUR ISLAND.

19:18:14 WHEN YOU TAKE THE HARBOUR ISLAND FROM KNIGHT'S RUN TO

19:18:18 KNIGHT'S RUN, FROM HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD TO

19:18:22 BENEFICIAL, WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO FIND OUT IS THAT

19:18:28 THERE ARE 1900 HOMEOWNERS, BOTH IN THE NORTH AND SOUTH

19:18:35 NEIGHBORHOOD AND 1100 OF THE -- OF THE APARTMENT

19:18:37 COMMUNITY DWELLING MEMBERS.

19:18:42 SO BASICALLY 3,000 RESIDENCES ARE THERE.

19:18:45 WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT N TOTAL OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE

19:18:51 WHAT IS CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL WHICH IS THE 2 HARBOR

19:18:54 PLACE AND THE CURRENT LIBERTY BUILDING, YOU ARE LOOKING

19:18:58 AT LESS THAN 5% OF THE TOTAL PROPERTY IN WHAT WE WOULD

19:19:01 CALL THE RESIDENTIAL CORE OF HARBOUR ISLAND BETWEEN

19:19:05 KNIGHT'S RUN AND THE BENEFICIAL AND HARBOUR ISLAND

19:19:09 BOULEVARD ON KNIGHT'S RUN, THAT IS THE CORE OF THE

19:19:12 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD OF HARBOUR ISLAND AND 95%

19:19:15 RESIDENTIAL, LESS THAN 5% COMMERCIAL.

19:19:19 SO WHAT YOU ARE ASKING IS TO PUT A LARGE PIECE OF

19:19:21 COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE OF A MOSTLY

19:19:27 RESIDENTIAL DRILLING AND IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY

19:19:27 SENSE.

19:19:31 WHEN YOU TALK OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES, THEY ARE NORTH

19:19:34 WHERE THE WESTIN IS AND THE OTHER HOTELS.

19:19:36 THEY ARE NOT IN THE CORE PART OF THE RESIDENTIAL

19:19:38 COMMUNITY OF HARBOUR ISLAND.

19:19:41 AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

19:19:44 THIS WERE GOING ON THE NORTH END WHERE JACKSON IS.

19:19:49 IF THEY WANT JACKSON TO RAISE IT, THAT IS NOT A

19:19:50 PROBLEM.

19:19:54 BUT THIS IS IN THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY IMPACTING THE

19:19:54 RESIDENTS.

19:19:57 AND HOPE YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

19:20:00 THE OTHER THING ON THE MARRIOTT WEB SITE WHICH I AM A

19:20:03 HOTEL DEVELOPER AND OWNER AND I OWN CURRENTLY TWO

19:20:05 MARRIOTTS.

19:20:09 THAT IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE THIS HOTEL IS CALLED

19:20:13 BOUTIQUE REALLY RESIDES, IT RESIDES IN A SELECT AREA.

19:20:16 IT IS NOT A LUXURY HOTEL.

19:20:18 NOT A MEDIUM HOTEL.

19:20:22 IT IS WITH THE FAIRFIELD AND WITH THE COURTYARD.

19:20:26 AND, AGAIN, IT IS NOT GOING TO HAVE THE AMENITIES OF A

19:20:28 BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

19:20:31 IT WILL BRING BUSINESS TRANSIENT TRAFFIC INTO A

19:20:34 RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AND I SHOWED YOU THE LEVEL OF THE

19:20:35 RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY IT IS.

19:20:38 I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR TIME AND HEARING YOU TONIGHT AND

19:20:41 HOPE YOU WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS PROPOSED HOTEL ON

19:20:42 HARBOUR ISLAND.

19:20:45 THANK YOU.

19:20:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:20:51 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

19:20:54 MY NAME IS NATHAN HAGAN.

19:20:55 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

19:20:58 FIRST -- MY FIRST THING IS THE QUESTION -- I AM

19:20:59 IGNORANT.

19:21:02 IF THERE IS NO WAIVERS, WHY THIS A PD?

19:21:03 I AM IGNORE RANT.

19:21:08 IS THERE AN ANSWER?

19:21:10 WELL I WILL CONTINUE, BUT I AM INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT,

19:21:12 BECAUSE THIS IS A PROCESS THING.

19:21:15 I'M HERE NOT BECAUSE I CARE PARTICULARLY ABOUT A HOTEL.

19:21:18 THAT DIDN'T HOUSING AND I AM FOCUSED ON HOUSING.

19:21:22 I AM SEEING A CONSISTENT PATTERN OF OPPOSITION --

19:21:25 OPPOSITION TO OUR -- OF HOW WE PLANNED OUR CITY.

19:21:27 PEOPLE SAYING I DON'T LIKE HOW WE PLANNED OUR CITY.

19:21:29 MY NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T PARTICULARLY LIKE HOW WE

19:21:31 PLANNED OUR CITY.

19:21:33 BUT OUR CITY CHOSE THIS.

19:21:36 OUR CITY COUNCIL VOTED FOR THIS COMP PLAN.

19:21:40 YOU KNOW, SIX YEARS AGO IN 2016.

19:21:43 THAT SHOULD COUNT FOR SOMETHING, BECAUSE AS --

19:21:46 GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ARE VOTING AGAINST PDS

19:21:51 THAT DON'T REQUIRE ANY WAIVERS, THAT MATCH THE COMP

19:21:54 PLAN, WE ARE VOTING AGAINST OUR COMP PLAN, IN MY

19:21:54 OPINION.

19:21:57 A CITY COUNCIL THAT IS HOSTILE TO ITS OWN CITY'S COMP

19:22:00 PLAN, TO ME, IS A CITY COUNCIL THAT IS HOSTILE TO

19:22:01 HOUSING.

19:22:08 THAT ES WHO TOIL OVER OTHER -- HOST TILL TO OTHER

19:22:10 OBJECTIVE OF THE COMP PLAN.

19:22:13 EVERYTHING THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING ARE LEGITIMATE

19:22:16 AND SHOULD BE VALIDATED, BUT THE STILL DECIDED ALREADY

19:22:20 THAT HARBOUR ISLAND HAS A PUMP.

19:22:22 AND WE CAN CHANGE THAT IN THE COMP PLAN THIS YEAR.

19:22:27 IF WE WANT TO DOWN ZONE ALL OF HARBOUR ISLAND, ONE OF

19:22:29 THE MOST CENTRAL URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS, WE CAN HAVE THAT

19:22:32 CONVERSATION AND 2016, CITY COUNCIL VOTED FOR A COMP

19:22:36 PLAN OF HARBOUR ISLAND WAS A MIXED USE, HIGH INTENSITY

19:22:38 DEVELOPMENT IN OUR URBAN CORE AND CITY COUNCIL IS

19:22:42 WILLING TO TAKE -- WALK THAT BACK ARBITRARILY EVERY

19:22:47 THURSDAY, PARCEL BY PARCEL, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE A FUNK

19:22:48 ISAL CITY GOVERNMENT.

19:22:52 I HOPE WE WILL NOT DO THAT AND NOT THIS CASE BUT ALL

19:22:53 CASES.

19:22:55 THANK YOU FOR LISTENING THANK YOU.

19:22:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN CITY COUNCIL

19:22:58 ATTORNEY.

19:23:01 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY THIS IS A PD OR HOW

19:23:04 TO RELATES TO THE COMP PLAN AND WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT

19:23:09 PATTERN IS SUPPOSED TO BE, AND WHAT YOUR CRITERIA IS,

19:23:12 MY SUGGESTION IS THAT YOU HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE TO ASK

19:23:13 THOSE QUESTIONS.

19:23:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:23:22 >> HI, JIMMY CLARK, 6516 BISCAYNE.

19:23:23 I WAS FAMOUS EARLIER AT THIS.

19:23:26 I NEVER HAVE BEEN TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

19:23:28 PROBABLY WILL NEVER COME TO ANOTHER ONE.

19:23:30 SO I APOLOGIZE.

19:23:33 I MET PEOPLE VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT

19:23:35 GENERALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF THIS STUFF.

19:23:37 YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB.

19:23:40 PART OF THE REASON I'M HERE IS ACTUALLY -- YOU KNOW, I

19:23:43 THINK PART -- THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT IT.

19:23:46 I SEE EVERYBODY TALKING OF THE HYATT AND THE ISSUE, BUT

19:23:50 THE PICTURE I SEE IS A DISCREPE BID OLD BUILDING AND

19:23:53 OVERTIME, THAT GO GET WORSE.

19:23:57 AT SOME TIME THAT WILL NEED TO BE DEVELOPED -- IN MY

19:24:01 BUSINESS, I AM AN -- IN THE INSURANCE BUSINESS, $20

19:24:02 BILLION OF INSURANCE.

19:24:04 I AM CONSIDERED TO BE ONE OF THE TOP IN THE COUNTRY.

19:24:09 I WORK WITH A LOT OF THE DEVELOPERS NATIONWIDE.

19:24:12 WHAT WE HAVE AND I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT -- I THINK

19:24:14 PEOPLE WILL DISAGREE IS SOMEBODY WHO IS LOCAL AND

19:24:15 INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY.

19:24:19 YOU GUYS MAY NOT REMEMBER THE RECEPTION, BUT IN 2014, A

19:24:22 MARRIOTT HOTEL AND A LOFT OPENED.

19:24:27 A DEVELOPER TOOK $20 MILLION OF HIS OWN MONEY.

19:24:31 NOBODY THOUGHT THAT A HOTEL COULD EVEN BE SUPPORTED IN

19:24:33 DOWNTOWN TAMPA IN THE MIDDLE OF A RECESSION.

19:24:38 TOOK A DECREPID OLD BUILDING.

19:24:43 GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED, ELEVATORS DIDN'T WORK.

19:24:46 A TAMPA BAY ARTICLE ABOUT IT AND OPENED IT AND IT WAS

19:24:48 SUCCESSFUL.

19:24:51 FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, TAMPA TOOK OFF.

19:24:54 ANOTHER HOTEL IN CHANNELSIDE THAT PERFECTLY FIT THE

19:24:54 AREA.

19:24:56 YOU ARE TALKING OF A GROUP THAT LIVES ON HARBOUR

19:24:57 ISLAND.

19:25:00 FAMILY LIVES ON HARBOUR ISLAND.

19:25:02 WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHATEVER TRAFFIC ISSUES WE ARE

19:25:05 TALKING ABOUT AND IS PERSONALLY INVESTED, PERSONALLY

19:25:10 INVESTED IN WHAT HE IS PUTTING IN THE GROUNDS BECAUSE

19:25:13 HE HAS TO LOOK AT IT AND TALK TO HIS KIDS ABOUT IT AND

19:25:17 SAYS IT MINE VERSUS THE RELATED GROUP OR WHOEVER ELSE

19:25:18 COMES IN.

19:25:22 THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TRY TO LOWER THE BUILDING TO

19:25:25 APIECE THE HOME BUILDERS -- THE HOME -- APPEASE THE

19:25:26 HOMEOWNERS.

19:25:29 THEY WILL TRY TO GET THE MAXIMUM VALUE OF LAND VERSUS

19:25:31 BUILDING SOMETHING THAT REALLY HELPS TAMPA.

19:25:33 AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY.

19:25:35 SOMETHING THINK THAT KNOW THAT THE LIBERTY GROUP IS

19:25:36 PROUD OF.

19:25:38 SOMETHING THINK THAT SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON HARBOUR

19:25:38 ISLAND.

19:25:40 SOMETHING I WOULD BE PROUD OF.

19:25:45 AND I HAVE CLIENTS IN INSURANCE, UNDERWRITERS FROM ALL

19:25:48 AROUND THE WORLD FLY IN TO SEE ME AND ALL THEY COMPLAIN

19:25:51 ABOUT IS THEY CAN'T FIND HOTELS AND THEY DON'T FIND --

19:25:54 THERE ARE BASICALLY TWO OR THREE GOOD NEW HOTELS.

19:25:56 I THINK WE HAVE GOT A FOURTH DOWNTOWN.

19:25:58 AND THEY STAY ON WESTSHORE.

19:26:02 SO -- [GAVEL SOUNDING]

19:26:07 >> THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR YOUR TIME.

19:26:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME.

19:26:08 EXCUSE ME.

19:26:09 PLEASE.

19:26:14 I UNDERSTAND, BUT PLEASE.

19:26:16 LET'S CONTROL OURSELVES.

19:26:17 THANK YOU, SIR.

19:26:22 THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

19:26:22 >> HELLO.

19:26:23 CHARLIE TOBIN.

19:26:26 I DON'T THINK I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

19:26:29 I AM NOT SURE, BUT I LIVE AT --

19:26:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAIT A SECOND.

19:26:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANYBODY ELSE COME UP WHO HASN'T BEEN

19:26:37 SWORN IN.

19:26:39 [SWEARING IN]

19:26:41 >> I DO.

19:26:42 IS THAT SWEARING IN.

19:26:44 OKAY, COOL, AWESOME.

19:26:46 1114 ABBEYS WAY.

19:26:49 AND I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT I BELIEVE I HAVE AN OUTLOOK

19:26:52 ON THIS ISSUE THAT NO ONE ELSE DOES.

19:26:55 I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO GO TO FLORIDA STATE FOR THE

19:26:58 PAST FOUR YEARS AND EVERY TIME -- AND I JUST RECENTLY

19:26:59 GRADUATED.

19:27:03 EVERY TIME I COME BACK FOR HOLIDAYS, THREE, SIX MONTHS,

19:27:04 I AM LIKE WOW.

19:27:06 A GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING.

19:27:09 DOWNTOWN TAMPA GETS BIGGER AND TRAFFIC GETS WORSE.

19:27:12 TAKES ON AVERAGE -- USED TO TAKE WHEN I WAS IN HIGH

19:27:15 SCHOOL ABOUT SIX MINUTES TO GET FROM DOWNTOWN TAMPA ON

19:27:16 THE HIGHWAY TO MY HOUSE.

19:27:18 TAKES ABOUT 15 NOW.

19:27:21 ESPECIALLY WITH A LIGHTNING GAME, MAKE ABOUT AN HOUR.

19:27:24 AND EVERY TIME, I AM LIKE, WOW, DOWNTOWN TAMPA IS GETTING

19:27:26 MORR HECTIC.

19:27:27 WHAT WILL THIS HOTEL BRING.

19:27:30 I DIDN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

19:27:33 CAME TO SUPPORT MY COMMUNITY, BUT AFTER HEARING

19:27:37 EVERYONE SPEAK OF HOW PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS HOTEL NOT

19:27:39 BEING BUILT, I HAVE TO AGREE.

19:27:42 MORE LIKE -- WHAT IS THE SAYING, IF YOU TAKE AN INCH,

19:27:43 YOU GET A MILE.

19:27:47 IT SEEMS THAT IF THIS HOTEL WILL JUST BE THE BEGINNING.

19:27:50 AND THAT IT WILL BECOME A LOT MORE COMMERCIAL ON THAT

19:27:51 SIDE OF TAMPA.

19:27:54 AND ON THAT SIDE OF HARBOUR ISLAND WHICH WILL NOT BE

19:27:55 GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

19:27:58 IT WILL NOT BE GOOD WHERE I GREW UP IN MY 23 YEARS OF

19:28:01 LIFE, THE WHOLE TIME ON HARBOUR ISLAND AND I DON'T

19:28:03 THINK ANYONE IN THIS COMMUNITY WANTS THIS HOTEL.

19:28:05 THANK YOU.

19:28:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:28:11 IS THERE ANYONE ELSE --

19:28:14 >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION --

19:28:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN, MA'AM.

19:28:17 YOU HAD YOUR TIME.

19:28:19 I APOLOGIZE, BUT YOU HAD YOUR TIME.

19:28:22 ANYONE ELSE IN THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS THAT WANTS TO

19:28:29 SPEAK THAT HAVEN'T ALREADY SPOKEN?

19:28:34 ANYBODY ELSE ON THE SECOND FLOOR OR DOWN AT THE VISCOTI

19:28:35 ROOM.

19:28:41 >> YES.

19:28:42 YES.

19:28:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU ONLINE OR IN THE BUILDING.

19:28:47 >> WE ARE ONLINE.

19:28:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF

19:28:51 UNTIL YOU ARE CALLED ON.

19:28:52 THANK YOU.

19:28:58 ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ONLINE NOW.

19:29:06 THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE IS MR. ED WILLIAMS.

19:29:16 MR. WILLIAMS, ARE YOU THERE?

19:29:18 I DON'T SEE MR. WILLIAMS THERE.

19:29:24 THEN LET'S GO TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE NOW.

19:29:27 MR. PETER BRUNDI.

19:29:34 ARE YOU THERE?

19:29:39 YES, I AM SEEING THEM RIGHT NOW AND I ASKED MR. PETER

19:29:41 BRUNDI.

19:29:44 BUT MR. BRUNDI, I NEED TO SEE YOUR FACE.

19:29:45 >> HERE I AM.

19:29:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:29:46 >> THANK YOU.

19:29:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE MORE TIME, CONSISTENT HEAR YOU.

19:29:52 SWEAR HIM IN.

19:29:54 EVERYBODY THAT I SEE ON THE SCREEN,

19:29:57 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.

19:30:01 [SWEARING IN]

19:30:01 >> YES.

19:30:04 >> YES, WE DO.

19:30:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:30:12 >> ARE YOU READY FOR ME?

19:30:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR, I AM, PLEASE.

19:30:14 >> OKAY.

19:30:16 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

19:30:20 COUNCILMEMBER, MY NAME IS PETER BRUNDI.

19:30:21 I AM AN ATTORNEY.

19:30:25 I MOVED WITH MY WIFE AND OUR NEWBORN SON TO HARBOUR

19:30:29 ISLAND 33 YEARS AGO.

19:30:34 WE HAVE ENJOYED A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS GROWN AND

19:30:39 DEVELOPED AND THAT NOW HOUSES SOME OF THE BEST PEOPLE

19:30:43 AND MINDS, CIVIC LEADERS, ETC. IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

19:30:50 ALL OF WHOM ARE AGAINST THIS HOTEL BEING DEVELOPED.

19:30:54 NOT ONE RESIDENT THAT I CAN RECALL TONIGHT ON HARBOUR

19:31:01 ISLAND HAS SPOKEN THAT IT IS A POSITIVE MOVE.

19:31:02 THERE IS SO MUCH TO SAY.

19:31:04 AND I KNOW I HAVE LIMITED TIME, SO I WILL JUST GO TO

19:31:05 ONE POINT.

19:31:09 THE POINT THAT -- THE WHITE ELEPHANT IN THIS WHOLE

19:31:13 THING IS THE FACT THAT HOTELS MAKE MOST OF THEIR MONEY

19:31:16 ON ALCOHOL.

19:31:21 NONE OF THE HIGH-RISES -- NONE OF THE HIGH-RISES ON

19:31:23 HARBOUR ISLAND SELL ALCOHOL.

19:31:27 THEY ARE EITHER CONDOS OR RENTAL BUILDINGS.

19:31:30 WE HAVE A COUPLE OF RESTAURANTS TO DO.

19:31:32 AND THAT'S NORMAL.

19:31:36 THIS IS GOING TO BE A HIGH-RISE THAT TRIES TO MAXIMIZE

19:31:41 THEIR PROFITS ON ALCOHOL AS ALL HOTELS DO.

19:31:45 IF YOU ASK ANY OF THESE HOTEL SPEAKERS AND IF THERE ARE

19:31:48 HONEST ABOUT IT, THEY WILL ADMIT IT.

19:31:50 THEY MAKE THE MOST PROFIT ON ALCOHOL.

19:31:55 THEY EVEN SHOWED THAT -- THAT LEVEL OF SEVERAL STORIES

19:31:58 UP WHERE THEY WILL HAVE AN OUTDOOR CAFE THAT WILL SERVE

19:31:59 ALCOHOL.

19:32:03 SO YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A HOTEL WHERE WILD PEOPLE,

19:32:05 SOME OF THEM, ARE WILD.

19:32:10 COMING IN TO SEE LIGHTNING GAMES OR HOCKEY -- OR OTHER

19:32:12 FACILITY -- OTHER EVENTS.

19:32:14 THEY ARE GOING TO INVITE FRIENDS OVER.

19:32:17 THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE BARS OPEN IN THE HOTEL AND

19:32:19 EVERYBODY WILL BE DRINKING.

19:32:22 AND SOME OF THEM WILL FEEL IT IS TOO FAR FROM THERE TO

19:32:24 WALK TO DOWNTOWN TO SOME OF THESE EVENTS, SO THEY ARE

19:32:27 GOING TO DRIVE.

19:32:31 AND WE WILL HAVE DRUNK DRIVERS ON A RESIDENTIAL AREA OF

19:32:33 HARBOUR ISLAND WHERE WE HAVE CHILDREN WAITING FOR

19:32:35 BUSES.

19:32:40 WHERE WE HAVE MOTHERS TAKING THEIR CHILDREN ACROSS

19:32:43 AREAS TO GET TO SCHOOL.

19:32:47 WHERE LATER IN THE DAY, WE HAVE PEOPLE WALKING DOGS.

19:32:51 AND THEY WILL EVEN ALLOW DOGS AND THEY WON'T CONFORM TO

19:32:56 PICKING UP THEIR POOP LIKE ALL HOTEL RESIDENTS DO.

19:32:58 IT IS GOING TO BE A DISASTER.

19:33:01 BUT THE WORST PART OF THIS IS THE ALCOHOL.

19:33:07 YOU ARE GOING TO ENLIST AND ENABLE A 12-STORY FACILITY

19:33:10 TO SELL ALCOHOL TO PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING IN OUR

19:33:13 NEIGHBORHOOD AND ENDANGERING OUR CITIZENS.

19:33:18 THIS CANNOT STAND.

19:33:21 I WORK WITH MOTHERS AGAINST DRUNK DRIVERS AND THIS

19:33:22 CANNOT STAND.

19:33:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR, THANK YOU VERY

19:33:24 MUCH.

19:33:28 MR. CARDONA.

19:33:29 >> HI, EVERYONE.

19:33:33 MY NAME IS JIRO CARDONA.

19:33:37 TAMPA RESIDENT FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

19:33:40 POST HARBOUR ISLAND RESIDENT FOR THE LAST SEVEN.

19:33:44 A COMMERCIAL BANKER IN TAMPA BAY FOR 14 YEARS AND MOST

19:33:47 RECENTLY STARTED MY OWN COMPANY RIGHT THERE ON HARBOUR

19:33:49 ISLAND.

19:33:53 IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, I HAVE PARTICIPATED IN OVER

19:33:56 HALF A BILLION IN LENDING IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT

19:34:00 IS MULTIFAMILY, PHARMACIST NEXT DOOR, SOMEBODY OPENING

19:34:02 A START-UP CALF PAY.

19:34:06 I AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.

19:34:09 YOU KNOW, WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT TRAFFIC AND NOISE AND

19:34:10 SAFETY.

19:34:12 AS IF THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE BUILT IN THE MIDDLE

19:34:16 OF A SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE PROJECT DOES NOT FIT.

19:34:21 BUT THE REALITY IS THAT HARBOUR ISLAND IS IN DOWNTOWN

19:34:27 TAMPA, BACK FROM OUR CUP CHAMPIONS TAMPA LIGHTNING.

19:34:30 I AM A SEASON TICKET HOLDER.

19:34:35 THIS IS SO IMPORTANT THAT I NEEDED TO BE HERE TODAY.

19:34:39 RESIDE BEHIND THEIR GATED COMMUNITY THEY ARE NOT IMMUNE

19:34:42 TO URBAN LIVING EVERYBODY ELSE WHO LIVES IN DOWNTOWN

19:34:43 TAMPA EXPERIENCES.

19:34:46 THEY HAVE THE PREROGATIVE TO MANAGE ALL THE ISSUES THAT

19:34:48 AFFECT THEM BEHIND THEIR GATES, BUT THE MERE PRESENCE

19:34:51 DOES NOT EXTEND THE PEROGATIVE OF THE REST OF DOWNTOWN

19:34:53 TAMPA.

19:34:57 THE TOURISM WHICH IS THE MAIN ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THE

19:35:00 CITY AS A SAFETY ISSUE THAT THOSE IN THE GATES OF

19:35:01 HARBOUR ISLAND.

19:35:06 MISGUIDED TO SAY THIS HOTEL WHO PUT DOWN OVERALL HOTEL

19:35:09 ROOMS AND REDUCED THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT

19:35:14 LEAD TO TRAFFIC JAMS ENTERING AND EXIT THEIR OWN GATED

19:35:15 COMMUNITIES.

19:35:19 GATES CREATE A PERMANENT DEMARCATION BETWEEN THE

19:35:21 RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

19:35:26 IF YOU LOOK AT.MAP, HUNDREDS OF FIGHTS AWAY FROM THE

19:35:28 SITE OF THE HOTEL.

19:35:30 HARBOR ISLAND WILL BENEFIT WITH THE AMENITIES

19:35:32 ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOTEL.

19:35:36 AC MARRIOTT WILL PROVIDE OUR COMMUNITY WITH A GATHERING

19:35:38 PLACE IN LINE WITH THE CHARACTERISTICS OF HARBOUR

19:35:38 ISLAND.

19:35:41 I LOOK FORWARD TO GOING TO THE RESTAURANT AND THE BAR

19:35:44 IN THE HOTEL AND I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE

19:35:46 IMMEDIATE MEETING SPACE.

19:35:48 I DO IT ALL THE TIME FOR MY BUSINESS.

19:35:50 THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS TAKEN TIME LISTEN TO THE

19:35:52 CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAKE SIGNIFICANT

19:35:56 CHANGES TO THE PROJECT THAT WAS REQUESTED BY MEMBERS OF

19:35:57 THE COMMUNITY MY SIEVE INCLUDED.

19:35:58 I APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS.

19:36:02 AND THIS PROJECT WILL ADD TO THE CHARM OF HARBOUR

19:36:04 ISLAND AND I ASK EVERYONE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

19:36:05 I THINK IT IS VERY GOOD.

19:36:06 I AM IN FAVOR OF IT.

19:36:10 I USED TO GO TO THAT SUNTRUST A LONG TIME AGO.

19:36:16 I REMEMBER A LONG TIME BUILDINGS WEREN'T THERE AND A

19:36:19 LOT OF PEOPLE OPPOSED AND LOOK HOW MUCH HAS COME FROM

19:36:20 THAT.

19:36:21 TIME IN FAVOR.

19:36:24 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND GO LIGHTNING.

19:36:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.

19:36:33 MR. SPONSLER.

19:36:37 >> I'M JIM SPONSLER.

19:36:40 I LIVE IN CENTRAL FLORIDA.

19:36:43 FORTUNATE TO BE REPRESENTED BY MANY OF OUR HOTEL BRANDS

19:36:45 THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

19:36:49 AND I DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE SOME

19:36:52 PERSPECTIVE OF THIS PARTICULAR IMPORTANT HOTEL BRAND

19:36:55 FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.

19:36:58 SO UNLIKE OUR LARGE FULL-SERVICE OR CONVENTION FOCUSED

19:37:04 HOTELS, THE AC HOTEL BRAND IS AN UPSCALE LIFETIME HOTEL

19:37:09 WITH AN UNIQUE CUSTOM DESIGN FOR EACH LOCATION.

19:37:12 AC HOTEL THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY OR THROUGHOUT THE

19:37:13 WORLD, EACH ONE IS DIFFERENT.

19:37:17 THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT A LIFESTYLE BOUTIQUE HOTEL VERSUS

19:37:19 A BRAND.

19:37:23 AND AS AN EXPERT ON THE BRAND, ONE OF THE CORE BRAND

19:37:27 PRINCIPLES IS, IN FACT, ACTIVATED IN THE PUBLIC SPACE

19:37:28 INTEGRATE WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

19:37:32 NOW THAT, AGAIN, MEANS DIFFERENT THINGS IN DIFFERENT

19:37:32 TYPES OF COMMUNITIES.

19:37:35 I ALSO JUST WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO CONFIRM THAT

19:37:38 LOCALLY BASED DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROJECT IS WORKING

19:37:42 WITH MARRIOTT TO DESIGN A CUSTOM HOTEL THAT WILL FIT

19:37:44 INTO THE FABRIC OF THE HARBOUR ISLAND COMMUNITY WITH

19:37:47 BOTH DESIGN AND SCALE OF THE PROPERTY.

19:37:51 NOW MY EXPERIENCE, WHEN A DEVELOPER BUILDS SOMETHING

19:37:55 IN THEIR OWN BACK YARD, THEY ARE SINCERELY COMMITTED TO

19:37:56 THIS PRIORITY.

19:38:00 NOW WHILE THERE MAY BE SOME COMPRESSION OF GUEST DEMAND

19:38:04 FOR LARGE CITY EVENTS, THIS HOTEL IS DESIGNED TO

19:38:07 ATTRACT UPSCALE CUSTOMERS WHO ARE SEEKING A LIFESTYLE

19:38:08 HOTEL EXPERIENCE.

19:38:12 THE PUBLIC SPACE IS ALSO DESIGNED TO BE A GATHERING

19:38:13 PLACE.

19:38:16 IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE FOR THE HARBOUR ISLAND

19:38:19 COMMUNITY AND FRIEND THAT TRAVEL TO TAMPA.

19:38:23 I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY COMMENTS.

19:38:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.

19:38:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, IF

19:38:35 I MAY, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

19:38:37 ANOTHER REMINDER AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT

19:38:42 THE DECISION IS NOT BASED ON THE BRANDS OR ANYTHING

19:38:47 SURROUNDING THE MARKETING OF IT OR WHOEVER -- IT IS

19:38:47 DESCRIBED.

19:38:52 BUT THE CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IN THE STAFF

19:38:55 REPORT THAT YOU APPLY THE FACTS AS YOU BELIEVE THEM TO

19:38:57 BE IS WHAT YOU MUST BASE YOUR DECISION ON,

19:38:59 COMPREHENSIVE TENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT IS IN THE

19:39:00 RECORD.

19:39:02 THANK YOU.

19:39:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:39:06 MR. WILLIAMS.

19:39:09 MR. ED WILLIAMS, ARE YOU THERE?

19:39:18 AND IF YOU ARE, YOU NEED TO TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.

19:39:23 MR. WILLIAMS?

19:39:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. WILLIAMS.

19:39:27 ANDY GOLD.

19:39:28 MR. GOLD.

19:39:37 ARE YOU ON A CELL PHONE OR ARE YOU ON YOUR COMPUTER?

19:39:40 MR. GOLD?

19:39:41 THANK YOU, MR. GOLD.

19:39:47 DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THESE AGENDA ITEMS

19:39:50 THAT ARE LOGGED ON?

19:39:53 >>CLERK: THAT WILL CONCLUDE THE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

19:39:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE DOWNSTAIRS IN THE SECOND

19:40:01 FLOOR OR IN THE VISCOTI ROOM?

19:40:06 THANK YOU.

19:40:11 MISS WELLS.

19:40:13 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, CATE WELLS FOR THE RECORD.

19:40:16 I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING BEFORE THE APPLICANT IS

19:40:20 ALLOWED REBUTTAL IN THE EVENT THEY WANT TO RESPOND TO

19:40:22 THIS, IN THE PRESENTATION IT WAS OFFERED UP THAT

19:40:25 PARKING AT THIS LOCATION WOULD NOT BE OPEN TO THE

19:40:28 PUBLIC AND THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO INCLUDE THAT AS A

19:40:31 NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.

19:40:34 COUNCIL HAS PREVIOUSLY HEARD THE CITY SAY THAT

19:40:37 CONDITIONS RELATED TO THE OPERATION OF THE BUSINESS

19:40:40 ESTABLISHMENT ARE NOT APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS OF ZONING

19:40:41 APPROVAL.

19:40:44 BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ENFORCEABLE BY THE CITY.

19:40:47 SO WHILE RESPONSIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS,

19:40:50 THAT IS NOT A NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN THAT THE CITY WOULD

19:40:50 SUPPORT.

19:40:53 AS WE WOULD NOT -- THE CITY WOULD NOT BE IN A POSITION

19:40:55 TO ENFORCE IT.

19:40:56 THANK YOU.

19:40:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:40:59 MISS MALONE, ARE YOU THERE?

19:41:03 YOU STATED YOU ARE ALWAYS THERE.

19:41:05 CAN YOU COME BACK ON?

19:41:06 THANK YOU, MISS MALONE.

19:41:07 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I'M HERE.

19:41:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: TWO QUESTIONS THAT WERE POSED TO YOU.

19:41:14 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES.

19:41:17 LITTLE ADDRESS THE FIRST -- THE -- I BELIEVE THE FIRST

19:41:20 QUESTION WAS IF THERE IS A POLICY IN THE PLAN THAT

19:41:25 ADDRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT CONSTRUCTION AND AND IMPACTS

19:41:28 TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD DURING CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

19:41:31 DID I GET THAT CORRECT?

19:41:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

19:41:35 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES, OKAY.

19:41:38 THE CLOSEST THING I FOUND IN THE COMMERCIAL SECTION OF

19:41:40 THE PLAN WAS A POLICY RELATED TO WHAT CAN BE ACHIEVED

19:41:47 DURING DEVELOPMENT REVIEW TO MINIMIZE RESIDENTIAL

19:41:53 IMPACTS WITH -- RE-ORIENTING CURB CUTS AND SUCH, SO I

19:41:55 DO NOT THINK IT WOULD APPLY.

19:41:58 I DID READ THROUGH MOST OF THE PLAN IN THAT HOWEVER

19:42:02 LONG IT WAS, AND I DID NOT FIND A POLICY THAT I FEET

19:42:05 WAS APPLICABLE TO YOUR QUESTION.

19:42:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,

19:42:08 COUNCILMAN VIERA?

19:42:13 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, THANK YOU.

19:42:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE NEXT QUESTION.

19:42:16 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES.

19:42:21 ABOUT THE PLANNING OF HARBOUR ISLAND AND IF -- IF THIS

19:42:25 WAS -- YOU WERE WONDERING IF IT WAS A PLAN THAT SOUTH

19:42:27 OF THIS STREET WILL BE RESIDENTIAL.

19:42:30 BEFORE I LEFT THE OFFICE TODAY, I ACTUALLY DID CHECK

19:42:30 THE LIBRARY.

19:42:34 AND I TALKED TO OUR LIBRARIAN.

19:42:36 THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEVER DID ANY SORT OF COMMUNITY

19:42:39 PLAN FOR HARBOUR ISLAND, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF THAT

19:42:43 PLANS WAS DONE THROUGH THE DRI AND THE PDS.

19:42:46 I WILL DEFER TO ANNIE BARNES TO ANSWER HOW THOSE

19:42:49 HISTORIC PDS, WHAT IS ON THEM.

19:42:53 AND I THINK THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN HER WHEEL

19:42:54 HOUSE.

19:42:58 BUT THERE WERE NO COMMUNITY PLAN DONE THAT I COULD FIND

19:43:00 BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

19:43:02 I WILL TURN IT OVER TO ANNIE.

19:43:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS MALONE.

19:43:09 MISS BARNES.

19:43:11 >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT

19:43:12 COORDINATION.

19:43:15 JUST LOOKING AT THE PDS IN THE AREA SURROUNDING THE

19:43:19 SITE, IT IS BASED UPON THE DENSITY, INTENSITY IS BASED

19:43:21 UPON THE ALLOWABLE USES.

19:43:26 SO IF ALLOWABLE USES OF HIGHER INTENSITY AND COMMERCIAL

19:43:29 USES IN THE SURROUNDING PDS, THAT IS WHY IT WAS

19:43:32 DEVELOPED THAT WAY.

19:43:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:43:43 MR. CREMER.

19:43:46 MR. CREMER, YOU HAVE STATED EARLIER THAT YOU MAY WANT

19:43:48 TO CROSS-EXAMINE ANY SPEAKERS.

19:43:52 DO YOU WISH TO DO SO AT THIS TIME?

19:43:56 >> NO, SIR, I DON'T, BUT I HAVE AN OBJECTION FOR THE

19:43:57 RECORD RELATED TO THAT.

19:44:01 MISS MANDELL SENT A LETTER TO COUNCIL AND CITY

19:44:05 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE YESTERDAY THAT HAD TWO EXPERT REPORTS

19:44:06 WITHIN THE LETTER.

19:44:12 AND MY CONCERN THAT EXPERTS DON'T APPEAR HERE TO BE

19:44:15 CROSS-EXAMINED AND I OBJECT TO THEM BEING CONSIDERED

19:44:17 COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

19:44:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:44:22 MISS MANDELL.

19:44:25 >> FOR THE RECORD, JULIA MANDELL.

19:44:27 I UNDERSTAND THE OBJECTION.

19:44:29 THEY COULD NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE.

19:44:31 WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THOSE

19:44:35 REPORTS THAT ISN'T ALSO PART OF THE RECORD THAT I PUT

19:44:39 FORWARD AS PART OF MY REPORT THAT I PUT FORWARD.

19:44:42 SO IF CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T WANT TO CONSIDER THOSE, THEY

19:44:44 CAN CONSIDER THE PICTURES THINK THAT PUT DOWN AS

19:44:48 COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, THE POLICIES THAT THEY

19:44:52 ARE REVIEWING IS PART OF THE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL

19:44:53 EVIDENCE AND THE TESTIMONY THAT THEY HEARD TODAY IS

19:44:56 PART OF THE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

19:44:58 THANK YOU.

19:45:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

19:45:02 [INAUDIBLE]

19:45:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOR THE RECORD I HAVEN'T SEEN IT

19:45:06 EITHER.

19:45:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE ONE SO FAR OF THE

19:45:09 COUNCILMEMBERS WHO ARE HERE.

19:45:19 I DIDN'T SEE IT EITHER.

19:45:22 MR. CREMER.

19:45:22 >> YES, SIR.

19:45:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED OR ARE YOU

19:45:27 GOING TO DO ANY CROSSEXAMINEING.

19:45:28 >> WELL, I CAN'T.

19:45:31 I WILL NOTE THAT THE PRIMARY CASE ON QUASI JUDICIAL

19:45:35 JENNINGS VERSUS DADE COUNTY SAYS THAT PARTIES MUST BE

19:45:38 ABLE TO CROSS-EXAMINE WITNESSES AND THOSE TWO WITNESSES

19:45:40 ARE NOT THERE.

19:45:41 AND I NOTE THAT OBJECTION FOR THE RECORD.

19:45:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:45:47 >> CAN I GET HELP FROM I.T., I AM NOT ABLE TO SEE

19:45:52 ANYTHING ON THE SCREEN, THE PRESENTATION HERE.

19:46:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I.T., ARE YOU AVAILABLE?

19:46:06 >> MR. CHAIR, IT SEEMS TO BE ON THE ELMO, BUT NOT ON

19:46:16 THE PRESENTATION.

19:46:26 AGAIN, JAKE CREMER FOR RECORD.

19:46:30 I WILL BE BRINGING SOME OF OUR EXPERTS UP TO ADDRESS

19:46:31 SOME OF THE COMMENTS YOU HEARD.

19:46:33 THANK YOU.

19:46:39 >> I AM RANDY HASEN, PRESIDENT OF MCKIBBON HOSPITALITY.

19:46:44 WE WILL BE WITH THE DAY-TO-DAY STAFF, HIRING AND

19:46:50 TRAINING AND I AM TAMPA RESIDENT SINCE 1994 AND WE

19:46:54 OPERATE NINE HOTELS AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR AC HOTELS.

19:46:56 I KNOW THIS BRAND VERY WELL.

19:46:59 FOUR HOTELS IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND 13 HOTELS IN TAMPA.

19:47:04 AND WE ARE TAMPA-BASED.

19:47:07 >> ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION FOR TRUCKS.

19:47:12 >> AS FAR AS DELIVERIES GO, WE AS THE OPERATOR, WE

19:47:16 CONTROL WHEN OUR VENDORS ARE DELIVERING TO THE HOTEL.

19:47:21 WE WANT TO DO IT DURING OFF-PEAK HOURS TO NOT DISRUPT

19:47:24 GUESTS SLEEPING, WHICH WOULD BE IN LINE WITH THE

19:47:25 RESIDENTS AS WELL AS.

19:47:29 WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T DISRUPT OPERATING

19:47:33 HOURS DURING BREAKFAST AND DINNER, THINGS OF THAT

19:47:33 NATURE.

19:47:37 SO THE BENEFIT OF THAT IT IS DURING OFF-PEAK HOURS OF

19:47:38 TRAFFIC AS WELL.

19:47:43 AND AS FAR AS THE TRASH COMPACTOR GOES, THAT IS A ONCE

19:47:44 A WEEK PICKUP.

19:47:49 ON CYCLE WITH THE CITY'S SCHEDULE AT, BUT IT WILL BE ON

19:47:53 CYCLE WITH EAR COMPACTOR PICKUPS ON THE ISLAND.

19:48:00 NOT IN ADDITION TO, IT IS JUST ANOTHER STOP.

19:48:03 >> GOOD EVENING, AGAIN, RANDY COHEN.

19:48:04 AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

19:48:07 I PLACED A TABLE ON THE ELMO.

19:48:10 I WANT TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REFERENCES TO

19:48:12 THE BANK AND ITS COMPARISON TO THE HOTEL.

19:48:14 A NUMBER OF FOLKS --

19:48:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. COHEN, I AM SORRY.

19:48:17 IT IS NOT APPEARING.

19:48:19 IT IS ON THE ELMO?

19:48:20 >> YES.

19:48:22 WE WILL GET TO IT SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS

19:48:22 BEFORE.

19:48:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE IT IS NOW.

19:48:25 THERE IT IS.

19:48:28 >> A LOT OF FOLKS TALKED OF THE SUNTRUST BANK THAT WAS

19:48:30 ON THE PROPERTY AT ONE POINT IN TIME.

19:48:30 THEY ARE CORRECT.

19:48:32 IT DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

19:48:35 A VERY LIMITED SERVICE BANK; HOWEVER, THE CURRENT

19:48:38 ZONING ON THE PROPERTY PROVIDES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF

19:48:39 A FULL-SERVICE BANK.

19:48:43 SO MY COMPARISONS HAVE BEEN TO A FULL-SERVICE BANK, NOT

19:48:46 TO THE SUNTRUST BANK THAT EXISTED SOME TIME AGO.

19:48:49 AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE TABLE ON THE ELMO, IN THE

19:48:52 MORNING A LITTLE BIT MORE TRAFFIC FROM THE HOTEL.

19:48:55 IN THE AFTERNOON, A LITTLE LESS TRAFFIC FROM THE HOTEL

19:48:57 THAN THERE WOULD BE FROM THE BANK.

19:49:00 A FULL-SERVICE BANK WHICH IS FULLY APPROVED AND CAN BE

19:49:01 CONSTRUCTED TODAY ON THE PROPERTY.

19:49:04 SO THAT IS THE COMPARISON I WAS REFERRING TO.

19:49:06 THANK YOU.

19:49:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:49:15 >> GOOD EVENING, CYNTHIA SPIDEL.

19:49:15 STEARNS WEAVER.

19:49:16 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

19:49:20 I AM AN AICP CERTIFIED PLAN WITH 17 YEARS OF PLANNING

19:49:22 EXPERIENCE INCLUDING MANY TAMPA PROJECTS.

19:49:25 AND I WAS ALSO THE DRI COORDINATOR IN PASCO COUNTY.

19:49:28 FORTUNATELY I HAVE WORKED ON MANY, MANY DRIS OVER MY

19:49:30 CAREER.

19:49:34 SO IN ORDER TO FORM MY PLANNING OPINION FOR

19:49:37 COMPATIBILITY OF THE USE OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AND

19:49:40 CONSISTENCY WITH THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENT.

19:49:44 I LOOKED AT THE APPROVALS AND REZONING PRECEDENTS

19:49:47 ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR HARBOUR ISLAND.

19:49:50 THIS IS SUMMARIZED IN THE PLANNING REPORT AND I WILL

19:49:51 COVER THEM BRIEFLY.

19:49:56 FIRSTLY A DRI WITH UNBUILT DRI ENTITLEMENTS AVAILABLE.

19:49:58 FORMER DRI COORDINATOR.

19:50:00 THE FIRST THING I LOOKED AT WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY

19:50:02 APPROVED AND WHAT WAS BUILT.

19:50:04 IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED AND WHAT

19:50:07 HAS BEEN SPENT, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REMAINING

19:50:10 ENTITLEMENT THAT CAN BE DRAWN FROM.

19:50:13 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, THE CURRENT BUILD-OUT SCENARIO

19:50:17 THAT WAS ASSUMED, PLANNED FOR AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

19:50:19 MITIGATED FOR.

19:50:22 DRY CLEARLY ALLOWS NONRESIDENTIAL USES IN THIS

19:50:23 LOCATION.

19:50:28 AND OBVIOUSLY THE -- JUST TO REITERATE THAT AND I WANT

19:50:31 TO EMPHASIZE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF THE IMPROVEMENT FOR

19:50:33 THIS DRI IS MUCH GREATER THAN ACTUALLY WHAT IS ON THE

19:50:34 GROUND.

19:50:38 SO WHEN THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTS LOOKED AT THIS DRI,

19:50:41 THEY HAD THE FORESIGHT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS -- YOU

19:50:44 KNOW, THIS IS 178-ACRE PROJECT.

19:50:48 A LONG EXTENSIVE BUILD-OUT AND EVOLVE OVER TIME AND

19:50:50 CHANGE WITH MARKET DEMANDS.

19:50:52 SO THEY RECOGNIZE THAT.

19:50:58 AND THEY BUILT THAT FLEXIBILITY INTO THE DRI, WHICH IS

19:51:00 THE MASTER PLAN FOR AT AREA THE BASIS OF THE CERTIFIED

19:51:03 SITE PLAN AT THE PD LEVEL.

19:51:06 HAVING SAID THAT, THEY BUILT THAT FLEXIBILITY INTO IT

19:51:09 AND THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC NOTE ON THERE THAT SAYS USES

19:51:13 DEPICTING DEMARCATION BETWEEN LAND USE CATEGORIES MAY

19:51:16 BE ADJUSTED A I COULD COME DATE MARKET CONDITIONS AND

19:51:22 INNOVATIVE BUILDING DESIGNS AND EXTREMELY IMPORTANT

19:51:25 REGULATORY APPROVAL THAT SETS PRECEDENCE FOR THIS

19:51:26 PROJECT.

19:51:30 WHAT IS THE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY?

19:51:31 REGIONAL MIXED USE 1 MOUNTAIN.

19:51:35 THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST INTENSE LAND USES YOU COULD

19:51:38 POSSIBLY HAVE IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

19:51:40 THE PLANNER FOR THE OPPOSITION -- IN THEIR OPPOSITION

19:51:43 REPORT WHO IS NOT HERE INDICATED THEY WANTED

19:51:45 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IN THIS LOCATION.

19:51:47 SO I WENT BACK THROUGH IT.

19:51:51 THERE ARE NO REGULATORY APPROVALS IN PLACE THAT WOULD

19:51:53 REQUIRE ANY COMMERCIAL USES IN THIS DRI TO BE

19:51:55 NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE.

19:51:58 THERE IS A MUCH LARGER HOTEL A BLOCK AWAY.

19:52:00 AND THAT IS WHY THIS HOTEL IS COMPATIBLE AND

19:52:05 APPROPRIATE IN OUR REGIONAL MIXED USE LAND USE

19:52:05 CATEGORY.

19:52:08 LASTLY I LOOKED AT THE HISTORICAL ZONING FOR THE

19:52:09 PARCEL.

19:52:11 THE CITY OF TAMPA APPROVED THIS FOR NONRESIDENTIAL

19:52:14 USES.

19:52:17 NEVER CONSIDERED THE ROAD TO BE THE DEMARCATION LINE.

19:52:20 RATHER THE ENTIRE PARCEL OR THE AREA THAT IS DESIGNATED

19:52:25 ON THE DRI MAP AND THE PLAN AS NONRESIDENTIAL AND

19:52:27 THEREFORE THOSE USES THAT ARE APPROVED FOR THAT MIXED

19:52:29 USE PARCEL ARE ALLOWED ON THIS SITE.

19:52:33 IN PARTICULAR, AND, AGAIN, THE PLAN IS TO -- PLANNERS

19:52:36 WHO ORIGINALLY WORKED ON THIS DRI DID HAVE THE

19:52:40 FORESIGHT TO STATE THAT ON THE MAP, USES DEPICTING

19:52:44 DEMARCATION OF LAND USE CATEGORIES MAY BE ADJUSTED TO

19:52:48 ACCOMMODATE MARKET CONDITIONS AND INNOVATIVE BUSINESS

19:52:48 DESIGN.

19:52:52 SET IN ANOTHER WAY, WHY YOUR ZONING HISTORY SHOW THE IT

19:52:54 IS NOTE KNIGHT'S RUN, BUT THE GATE.

19:52:57 SO YOU HAVE ALREADY DRAWN THAT LINE.

19:53:00 AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SHOWN IN THE PRESENTATION, THE

19:53:03 RESIDENTIAL LAND USES BEHIND THE GATES ARE PROTECTED

19:53:07 AND BUFFERED BY THE GATES.

19:53:11 AND A WIDE VARIETY OF HIVTS IN HARBOUR ISLAND NORTH AND

19:53:11 SOUTH OF THE GATE.

19:53:16 THAT IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH RMU-100 WHICH ALLOWS FOR

19:53:20 LOW-RISE, MEDIUM-RISE AND HIGH-RISE TO CO-EXIST.

19:53:23 THE BUILDING DESIGN ITSELF ENCOURAGES PEDESTRIAN

19:53:26 ACTIVITY AND AN ARTICLE AS WELL IN MY PLANNING REPORT

19:53:28 THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW THE TRANSPARENCY OF THE BUILDING

19:53:33 IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN HUMAN SCALE AND WILL SPUR

19:53:36 PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY AND SENSITIVE TO THE URBAN CONTEXT

19:53:38 OF THE COMMUNITY AND IT IS FUNNY BECAUSE I USE THE SAME

19:53:40 PICTURE THAT THE OPPOSITION USED TO LOOK.

19:53:44 WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, I THOUGHT THAT IS A 1980S BANK

19:53:47 TOTALLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE BEAUTIFUL HIGH-RISES

19:53:47 SURROUNDING IT.

19:53:50 SO I SAW THE SAME PICTURE AND LOOKED AT THAT TIME

19:53:50 COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY.

19:53:53 THEREFORE, IT IS MY OPINION THAT THIS IS VERY

19:53:56 APPROPRIATE FOR A MIXED USE AREA AND DEMONSTRATES

19:53:59 CONSISTENCY OF A HOTEL.

19:54:01 AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

19:54:03 >> JAKE CREAMER AGAIN.

19:54:08 MISS SPIDELL, IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL PLANNING IS THIS

19:54:12 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN AND PD.

19:54:13 >> YES.

19:54:15 >> JAKE CRAMER.

19:54:17 FOR THE RECORD, WE HEARD A LOT TONIGHT.

19:54:19 AND I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE LEGAL STANDARD THAT WE

19:54:20 ARE APPLYING TONIGHT.

19:54:23 AS YOU ALL KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO REZONINGS, NOT A

19:54:25 POPULARITY CONTEST.

19:54:28 WE ARE APPLYING YOUR LAWS TO THE EVIDENCE.

19:54:31 WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT JUST TO WISH TO MAINTAIN THE

19:54:34 STATUS QUO, THAT IS NOT ENOUGH.

19:54:35 THAT IS NOT A DEFENSE.

19:54:37 AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT CITIZEN TESTIMONY -- THIS

19:54:39 IS VERY IMPORTANT.

19:54:42 CITIZEN TESTIMONY ON TECHNICAL SUBJECTS LIKE LAND USE

19:54:45 PLANNING, LIKE ENGINEERING, LIKE TRAFFIC, LIKE

19:54:48 POLLUTION, THOSE ARE EXPERT SUBJECTS THAT ONLY EXPERTS

19:54:50 CAN TESTIFY ON.

19:54:53 COUNCIL, YOU DIDN'T HEAR FROM AN EXPERT ON ANY OF THOSE

19:54:55 SUBJECTS TONIGHT FROM THE OPPOSITION.

19:54:58 THE ONLY EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD TONIGHT IS YOUR

19:55:03 PROFESSIONAL PLANNING STAFF'S OPINION, THE OPINION OF

19:55:06 THE PLANNING COMMISSION, MISS SPIDELL, HER OPINION.

19:55:09 THAT IS THE PLANNING -- THOSE ARE THE PLANNING OPINIONS

19:55:10 IN THE RECORD TONIGHT.

19:55:16 WHAT THAT MEANS IS, ONCE WE HAVE ESTABLISHED OUR CASE,

19:55:19 THE BURDEN SHIFTS UNDER THE CASE LAW TO THE OPPOSITION.

19:55:23 THE OPPOSITION THEN HAS TO SHOW THAT THE CURRENT USE OF

19:55:27 THE LAND IS REASONABLE AND DOES NOT EFFECT -- DOES NOT

19:55:31 ADVERSELY EFFECT OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS.

19:55:33 COUNCIL, I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THEY HAVE NOT EVEN

19:55:36 TRIED TO MAKE THAT CASE.

19:55:37 THIS IS THE CURRENT PROPERTY.

19:55:41 IF WE CAN GO TO THE POWERPOINT PLEASE.

19:55:45 WE HAVE AN OLD, OUTDATED BANK BUILDING THAT IS RIGHT

19:55:48 NEXT TO A WALL.

19:55:52 WE HAVE A 12-STORY BUILDING AND A 21-STORY BUILDING

19:55:54 NEXT TO THIS BUILDING.

19:55:58 THE DRI, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE DRI AND THE PLANS

19:56:02 AROUND THIS PROPERTY, AROUND THIS -- AND HARBOUR

19:56:06 ISLAND, THE WHOLE PURPOSE WAS TO MIX USES, TO MIX

19:56:10 HEIGHT, SO WE GET THIS FABRIC WHERE PEOPLE CAN WALK.

19:56:12 WHERE WE CAN HAVE THIS EXTENSION OF DOWNTOWN.

19:56:16 THAT IS WHAT THE PLANNING OPINIONS ARE AS FAR AS THE

19:56:19 ENTITLEMENTS THAT ARE ALLOWED.

19:56:22 YOU KNOW, OUR SCALE IS SIMILAR.

19:56:25 YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE HOTEL HYATT WHICH

19:56:31 HAS 178 ROOMS AND EPICURION WITH 137 ROOMS AND SOON

19:56:32 INCREASING TO 188 ROOMS.

19:56:36 THAT IS THE SCALE WE ARE LOOKING AT.

19:56:40 THE OP SIGNIFICANCE -- I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT THEY

19:56:43 DIDN'T OFFER ANYTHING TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND ON

19:56:45 BAYSHORE.

19:56:47 IN COUNCIL HAS APPROVED MANY PROJECTS, PREVIOUS

19:56:52 COUNCILS HAVE APPROVED MANY PROJECTS OF VERY, VERY TALL

19:56:55 BUILDINGS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND

19:56:57 FOUND THEM COMPATIBLE.

19:57:02 IN THOSE CASES, THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE TOWERS WAS

19:57:04 MUCH HIGHER THAN THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE

19:57:06 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

19:57:08 AGAIN, GOING BACK TO HARBOUR ISLAND.

19:57:09 YOU HEARD FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

19:57:13 THE ENTIRE ISLAND IS RMU-100.

19:57:14 THE SAME AS CHANNELSIDE.

19:57:17 THAT IS THE VISION AS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED

19:57:20 THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS SET FOR THE ISLAND.

19:57:24 THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE SINCE THE DRI WAS INITIATED 40

19:57:28 YEARS AGO.

19:57:31 COUNCIL, I WANT TO GO BACK AND ADDRESS ONE PERCEIVED

19:57:34 TRAFFIC CONCERN BECAUSE I HAVE SPOKEN WITH MY CLIENT

19:57:35 TONIGHT.

19:57:38 I MENTION TO YOU A REPORT THAT WAS PREPARED BY CITY

19:57:41 STAFF'S CONSULTANT.

19:57:45 THAT REPORT RECOMMENDS ABOUT A DOZEN POTENTIAL

19:57:49 SOLUTIONS TO THE OFF-SITE, OFF THE ISLAND TRAFFIC

19:57:51 PROBLEMS THAT YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT TONIGHT FROM MANY

19:57:52 SPEAKERS.

19:57:54 LIBERTY IS WILLING TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE.

19:57:57 THIS ISN'T A PROBLEM WE HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO OR CAUSED.

19:57:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: 30 SECONDS.

19:57:59 >> THANK YOU.

19:58:04 LIBERTY IS WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE $50,000 TO THE CITY'S

19:58:07 IMPLEMENTATION WITHIN THREE YEARS OF CERTIFICATE OF

19:58:09 OCCUPANCY OF THE HOTEL TO ANY OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT THE

19:58:12 CITY CHOOSES FROM THIS REPORT.

19:58:14 SO I WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE TABLE.

19:58:17 WE ARE HAPPY TO ADD THAT AS A NOTE, YOU KNOW, AS IT

19:58:20 WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND

19:58:20 SECOND READING.

19:58:21 THANK YOU.

19:58:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:58:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CITRO.

19:58:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.

19:58:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE TO PUT ON

19:58:32 THE SITE PLAN.

19:58:35 THAT IS NOT RELATED TO THE CRITERIA.

19:58:40 THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE NOT -- NOT SOMETHING

19:58:43 THAT THE CITY WILL APPROVE TO HAVE PUT ON THE SITE

19:58:44 PLAN.

19:58:46 COUNCIL, MY SUGGESTION IS THAT NOT BE CONSIDERED.

19:58:50 I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WILL BE ANY MECHANISM OTHER THAN

19:58:55 THAT TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT.

19:58:57 >> IF I MAY RESPOND, THE ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE VERY

19:58:58 EASY.

19:59:01 WE WOULD HAVE A TIMING AND THE CITY'S POTENTIAL

19:59:03 COMPLIANCE WITH THE TIMING.

19:59:06 WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS, WE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT THIS

19:59:07 CORRIDOR.

19:59:12 AND POTENTIAL -- POTENTIAL PEDESTRIAN AND AUTOMOBILE

19:59:14 CONFLICTS.

19:59:16 WE HEARD ABOUT THAT AS A CONCERN.

19:59:19 AND WE ARE -- YOU KNOW, WE ARE OFFERING TO HELP ASSIST

19:59:21 WITH THAT CONCERN.

19:59:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:59:27 BEFORE I ACCEPT A MOTION TO CLOSE, DO WE HAVE ANY

19:59:34 OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE PETITIONER OR OF STAFF?

19:59:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL --

19:59:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

19:59:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

19:59:41 I WROTE DOWN SOME NOTES.

19:59:44 MISS MANDELL SPOKE OF AVAILABILITY OF REMAINING

19:59:48 ENTITLEMENTS AND SHE NEVER SAID HOW MUCH AND WHERE.

19:59:49 NUMBER ONE.

19:59:52 NUMBER TWO, SPOKE OF A VERY LARGE HOTEL A BLOCK AWAY.

19:59:57 BUT YOU NEVER TOLD THIS COUNCIL, IS IT SOUTH OR NORTH

19:59:59 OF KNIGHT'S RUN AVENUE.

20:00:00 >> NORTH.

20:00:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE ATTORNEY SPOKE OF HYATT AND

20:00:05 COMPARING HOTEL --

20:00:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY, MR. MIRANDA.

20:00:09 DID YOU WANT A QUESTION OF THE WITNESS.

20:00:11 DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION OF THE WITNESS --

20:00:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME FINISH MY QUESTION --

20:00:16 PLEASE, SIR, I AM DOING THE QUESTIONING.

20:00:20 NOT YOU, SIR.

20:00:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDERSTOOD.

20:00:23 SPOKE OF TWO HOTELS.

20:00:26 ONE IN YBOR CITY AND ONE ON THE SOUTH END OF HOWARD, I

20:00:26 BELIEVE.

20:00:29 BOTH VERY WELL, VERY WELL RUN, VERY WELL, BUT THEY BOTH

20:00:32 -- THE SETTING OF THEM ARE CERTAINLY NOT THE SETTING

20:00:33 WITH THIS ONE.

20:00:35 I AM TRYING TO MAKE THE COMPARISON BECAUSE THEY GAVE ME

20:00:37 A COMPARISON WHICH DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

20:00:39 ONE IS IN YBOR CITY.

20:00:43 THE OTHER IN SOUTH HOWARD, THEN YOU BRING UP THE

20:00:44 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.

20:00:50 THE BAYSHORE BOULEVARD STARTED BACK IN THE '70S OF

20:00:52 AVAILABILITY OF HIGH-RISE.

20:00:53 IF I RECALL. NOTICE I SAID "IF I RECALL."

20:00:58 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE INFORMATION GIVEN TO THIS

20:01:02 COUNCIL REGARDING THE AVAILABILITY OF ENTITLEMENTS

20:01:05 REMAINING WHERE ARE THEY AND HOW -- I THINK WE ARE

20:01:06 ENTITLED TO THAT.

20:01:08 >> A GOOD QUESTION.

20:01:11 ON PAGE THREE OF MY PLANNING REPORT, THERE IS A TABLE

20:01:13 ONE DRI ENTITLEMENT.

20:01:16 ACCORDING TO THE LAST ANNUAL REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED

20:01:21 FOR THE DRI WAS 1477 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AVAILABLE.

20:01:25 515,956 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE.

20:01:28 251 HOTEL ROOMS.

20:01:33 350 CONFERENCE CENTER ROOMS -- UNITS.

20:01:36 ZERO ATHLETIC FACILITIES THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED.

20:01:40 179,625 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND AN EXTRA 239

20:01:43 BOAT SLIPS.

20:01:44 THAT IS WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND MITIGATED FOR.



20:01:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.

20:01:46 NOT TO MAKE A SCENE, WHEN DID YOU RECEIVE THIS ITEM FROM

20:01:48 YOURSELF TODAY, THIS BOOK?

20:01:50 >> I'M SORRY?

20:01:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHEN DID WE RECEIVE THIS BOOK?

20:01:54 BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ THIS BOOK.

20:01:56 THIS BOOK WAS GIVEN TO US, BOOM, THERE IT IS.

20:01:58 AND HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHERE IT'S AT?

20:02:01 I APPRECIATE --

20:02:02 >> I CAN WALK YOU THROUGH --

20:02:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE DON'T HAVE EYES THAT CAN SEE THROUGH

20:02:07 ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT QUICKLY.

20:02:08 AT LEAST I DON'T.

20:02:09 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHERS.

20:02:11 >> DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR ME?

20:02:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.

20:02:16 AND THE OTHER QUESTION WAS ON SOUTH HOWARD, THEY ARE




20:02:25 CERTAINLY GREAT ADDITIONS TO THE AREA, BUT IT'S A STANDARD

20:02:30 OF THE SAME AS YOU PRESENTED.

20:02:32 >> COUNCILMAN, I WAS JUST GIVING THOSE AS EXAMPLES OF HOTELS

20:02:40 WITH ROOM COUNT, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, MUCH

20:02:49 LARGER HOTELS.

20:02:50 I APOLOGIZE.

20:02:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO PROBLEM.

20:02:52 THEN THE OTHER QUESTION WAS, MS. SPIDEL, YOU MENTIONED THE

20:02:55 LARGE HOTEL A BLOCK AWAY.

20:02:56 IS THAT SOUTH OR NORTH?

20:02:58 >> THAT'S NORTH.

20:02:59 IT'S WATERSIDE.

20:03:01 IT'S IN DIRECT WALKING DISTANCE NORTH AND SLIGHTLY WEST.

20:03:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BUT IT IS NORTH?

20:03:06 >> YES.

20:03:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:03:09 SO IT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH WATERSIDE --

20:03:13 [SOUNDING GAVEL]

20:03:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.

20:03:24 ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?

20:03:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.

20:03:28 >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.

20:03:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

20:03:31 SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

20:03:34 ALL IN FAVOR?




20:03:35 ANY OPPOSED?

20:03:39 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

20:03:46 WE HAVE TO VOTE ON ONE BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE OTHER.

20:03:48 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

20:03:50 MAY I GIVE JUST SOME CONSIDERATIONS AND THOUGHTS ON THIS, IF

20:03:53 I MAY?

20:03:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURE.

20:03:55 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I KNOW WE ARE ALL LOOKING FOR

20:03:57 CONSIDERATIONS AND THOUGHTS BECAUSE THIS IS A -- THIS IS A

20:04:01 HOT BUTTON ISSUE, IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING.

20:04:04 YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS I KEPT ON ASKING FOR

20:04:07 INFORMATION ON WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN RELY UPON CERTAIN

20:04:09 THINGS IN ISSUING A DECISION ON THIS IS BECAUSE THIS IS A

20:04:13 LEGAL PROCEEDING.

20:04:14 A LEGAL PROCEEDING WITH ACCOUNTABILITY, WITH APPEALS,

20:04:17 ET CETERA, WHERE IF ONE SIDE DOESN'T LIKE THE WAY THAT IT

20:04:19 GOES, THERE'S A SEQUEL, RIGHT?

20:04:22 COULD BE MANY SEQUELS, IN FACT.

20:04:26 SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

20:04:27 I ALWAYS SAY WHENEVER IT COMES TO CASES LIKE THIS, WE HAVE

20:04:32 TO SEE IF THERE'S LEGS TO SUPPORT THAT STOOL EITHER TO

20:04:36 SUPPORT SOMETHING OR DENY IT, AND THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES

20:04:39 THAT CAN GO INTO FAIRNESS AND EQUITY, ET CETERA, FROM AN

20:04:44 INFORMAL NON-LEGAL DEFINED PERSPECTIVE, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE

20:04:48 TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT ON A HEARING.




20:04:52 WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, THERE'S A NUMBER OF ISSUES HERE, NUMBER

20:04:54 ONE, THE PUBLIC BRINGS UP A LOT OF GOOD ISSUES AGAIN ON AN

20:04:58 INFORMAL BASIS, THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE ON THAT PIECE OF

20:05:04 PROPERTY.

20:05:05 OBVIOUSLY A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.

20:05:07 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, VERY COMPELLING.

20:05:09 WHAT BOTHERS ME IS THAT WE HAVE TWO, WHAT I CALL,

20:05:14 UNBLEMISHED REPORTS FROM CITY STAFF, AND FROM THE PLANNING

20:05:17 COMMISSION.

20:05:18 WITHOUT ANY WAIVERS SOUGHT WHATSOEVER.

20:05:23 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WEIGHS ON MY MIND A LOT.

20:05:25 I LOOK AT ISSUES IN TERMS OF -- WE HAVE THE COMP PLAN.

20:05:30 APPARENTLY -- AND I AM GOING TO RELY UPON WHAT SOMEONE IN

20:05:33 THE AUDIENCE SAID.

20:05:34 I REMEMBER WHEN COUNCIL AMENDED THE COMP PLAN MAYBE FIVE,

20:05:38 SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO -- RIGHT? -- THAT HAS BEEN RELIED UPON

20:05:42 IN THIS.

20:05:42 SO I LOOK AT LEGAL LEGS THAT CAN GO OWN A STOOL IN

20:05:47 SUPPORTING IT OR DENYING SOMETHING.

20:05:49 THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS LOOK FOR BECAUSE THIS IS A LEGAL

20:05:52 PROCESS WHERE THERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY, APPEALS, AND WHAT I

20:05:56 CALL SEQUELS.

20:05:58 SO TONIGHT MAY BE A ROCKY 1.

20:06:00 THERE'S GOING TO BE A ROCKY 2, 3, 4, 5 LATER ON POTENTIALLY.

20:06:04 JUST SOME GENERAL THOUGHTS AND CONSIDERATIONS, IF I MAY.




20:06:07 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

20:06:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU'RE WELCOME.

20:06:22 IF OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE THOUGHTS, ET CETERA.

20:06:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS HOPING TO HEAR A MOTION AND THEN WE

20:06:26 WOULD HAVE DISCUSSION AFTER A MOTION IS MADE.

20:06:33 THERE IS NO MOTION YET.

20:06:35 NOBODY HAS MADE A MOTION.

20:06:36 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST TO GET DISCUSSION STARTED, READ NUMBER

20:06:40 3, I MOVE AN ORDINANCE --

20:06:42 >> WE STILL HAVE ITEM 2.

20:06:45 >>LUIS VIERA: EXCUSE ME, I'M SO SORRY.

20:06:47 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

20:06:49 ITEM NUMBER 2 I GUESS IS A COMPANION TO THIS, BUT YOU HEARD

20:06:54 TALK ABOUT THE DRI AND ENTITLEMENTS UNDER THE DRI.

20:06:58 SO THERE ARE EXCESS TITLEMENT IN THE AREA OF REGIONAL

20:07:05 IMPACT.

20:07:05 THIS DEVELOPER DOES NOT OWN THOSE ENTITLEMENTS.

20:07:08 SO THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE THIS NOTICE OF PROPOSED CHANGE

20:07:11 BEFORE YOU SO THAT, WHICH IS REQUESTING TO THE ENTITLEMENTS

20:07:16 WITHIN THE DRI WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE REZONING TO GO FORWARD.

20:07:20 THAT'S WHY THE DRI AMENDMENT IS FIRST.

20:07:24 SO IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THOUGH

20:07:30 BECAUSE THERE WAS A CHANGE IN THE AMENDMENT TO THE NOTICE OF

20:07:33 PROPOSED CHANGE, WHICH A NUMBER OF PROPOSED HOTEL ROOMS AND

20:07:38 THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION IN THE ORDINANCE, SO I DID




20:07:40 WANT TO MAKE THE STATEMENT FOR THE RECORD, AND BETWEEN FIRST

20:07:43 AND SECOND READING MAKE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE ORDINANCE, SO

20:07:47 THE INCREASE IN ENTITLEMENTS UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER

20:07:49 WOULD PERMIT A MAXIMUM OF 150 HOTEL ROOMS WITH ANCILLARY

20:07:53 USES AND 160 PARKING SPACES, AND THEN THE TERMINATION OF THE

20:07:58 DEVELOPMENT ORDER WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 27th OF 2024.

20:08:04 ENTITLEMENT IS STILL THE SAME ON THE ORDINANCE, THOUGH.

20:08:06 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

20:08:06 AND I DO THIS TO GET THE CONVERSATION STARTED, TO THE EXTENT

20:08:10 THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS, BECAUSE I

20:08:12 AM OPEN TO THOUGHTS, RIGHT?

20:08:14 I AM OPEN TO THOUGHTS.

20:08:14 SO HERE WE GO.

20:08:16 I READ AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA APPROVING

20:08:18 THE SIXTH AMENDMENT TO A DEVELOPMENT ORDER RENDERED PURSUANT

20:08:22 TO CHAPTER 380 FLORIDA STATUTES FILED BY LIBERTY HOSPITALITY

20:08:25 MANAGEMENT LLC FOR HARBOR ISLAND A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED

20:08:29 DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE,

20:08:31 WITH THE CORRECTIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING THAT

20:08:34 MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ REFERENCED.

20:08:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE HEARD A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

20:08:42 IS THERE A SECOND?

20:08:43 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SECOND.

20:08:45 >> SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

20:08:49 ANY DISCUSSION?




20:08:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD THE CONVERSATION

20:08:58 ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, THREE HOURS OR SO, WHICH IS FINE,

20:09:02 ENHANCING AND MAKE ME A BETTER PERSON IN UNDERSTANDING

20:09:05 WHAT'S GOING ON, AND I LOOK AT ONE THING, THE MAP BEFORE

20:09:10 ITEM NUMBER D.

20:09:11 THAT MAP AND THE CONSEQUENCES THAT I LOOKED AT, IF THIS

20:09:16 HOTEL WAS ANYWHERE, OR THIS PROPERTY WAS ANYWHERE NORTH, I

20:09:22 WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.

20:09:24 NOT ONE.

20:09:25 BUT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS SOUTH OF KNIGHT'S RUN AVENUE, AND

20:09:30 THIS WILL STARTED, IN MY OPINION, POSSIBLE, NOTICE I SAID A

20:09:34 POSSIBLE, PATH, DOMINO EFFECT ON GOING IN THE SAME

20:09:38 MANNERISMS AS THAT ITEM THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT SOUTH OF

20:09:44 KNIGHT'S AVENUE, THE HOTEL.

20:09:45 SO THEREFORE I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.

20:09:47 [ APPLAUSE ]

20:09:50 [SOUNDING GAVEL]

20:09:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND YOUR ZEAL.

20:09:59 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

20:10:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN I LOOK AT THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT HAVE

20:10:03 BEEN REFERENCED BY THE APPLICANT AND IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC,

20:10:06 YOU SEE SOME DISPARITIES THERE.

20:10:09 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT CORNER.

20:10:11 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, I BELIEVE ON THE

20:10:16 WEST SIDE, YOU SEE ALL OF THE BIG BUILDINGS WHEN YOU GO TO




20:10:18 THE EASTERN SIDE, A DISPARITY.

20:10:23 YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL PICTURE OF THE COMP

20:10:28 PLAN, SOMETIMES WHEN DIFFERENT COUNCIL APPROVE THINGS,

20:10:33 THINGS DO CHANGE SOMETIMES.

20:10:37 DURING THE COURSE OF YEARS.

20:10:40 SOMETIMES WHEN COUNCIL MAKES THE DECISION, IT AFFECTS LATER

20:10:44 COUNCILS MUCH LATER ON WHEN WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS, TOUGH

20:10:48 DECISIONS.

20:10:50 THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, AND TAMPA IS

20:10:52 GROWING, AND THE HOTEL INDUSTRY BRINGS A LOT OF TOURISM AND

20:10:57 THAT WAS A BIG THING, BACK IN THOSE DAYS, THAT WE DIDN'T

20:11:04 HAVE ENOUGH HOTELS.

20:11:05 I THINK WE ARE STARTING TO GROW NOW WITH HOTELS.

20:11:08 BUT I LISTENED TO THE APPLICANT, LOOKED AT THE FACTS, AND

20:11:15 THERE ARE SOME VALID POINTS, BUT ALSO LOOK AT THE TOTALITY

20:11:20 OF WHERE THAT BUILDING MAY GO TO.

20:11:22 AND IT KIND OF BOTHERS ME WHERE IT'S SETTING AT WHEN I LOOK

20:11:26 AT THE DIAGRAM AND THE PHOTOS.

20:11:28 IT COULD BE A PROBLEM.

20:11:32 I CAN'T SAY IT WILL BE BUT IT COULD POTENTIALLY.

20:11:36 SO I AM STILL LEERY BUT I WILL LISTEN TO OTHER COUNCIL

20:11:41 MEMBERS.

20:11:41 WHEN I LOOK AT THE DESIGN, THE COMMUNITY DOES HAVE SOME

20:11:47 CONCERN.

20:11:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS?




20:11:50 >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO UNDERSTAND THE COMPATIBILITY.

20:12:01 I LOOK AT THAT.

20:12:05 I ALSO -- I DO SEE A CLEAR DEMARCATION WHERE THE GATES ARE.

20:12:13 WHERE THE GATES ARE, VERY CLEAR DEMARCATION BETWEEN WHAT I

20:12:18 SEE AS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE.

20:12:22 SO I AM ACTUALLY INCLINED TO GO THE OPPOSITE WAY AND APPROVE

20:12:26 THIS BECAUSE IT IS OUTSIDE, IT IS STILL A PUBLIC SPACE, AND

20:12:36 THE -- ALL OUR STAFF HAS APPROVED IT, FOUND IT CONSISTENT,

20:12:44 NO WAIVERS.

20:12:47 I FIND IT LEGALLY DIFFICULT TO DISAPPROVE.

20:12:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM UNDERSTANDING BOTH SIDES OF THIS

20:13:04 HEARING.

20:13:06 I LOOK TO A CERTAIN THING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO

20:13:10 CONSIDERATION.

20:13:14 THE EXISTING LAND USE, I AM GOING TO GO OFF TO ONE SIDE.

20:13:22 PEOPLE KEEP TALKING DENSITY, DENSITY, DENSITY, DENSITY.

20:13:28 WOULD THIS DENSITY BE BETTER SUITED FOR LIVING RESIDENTS, BE

20:13:36 IT BE APARTMENT OR COUNCILMAN, WHETHER YOU HAVE ONE-YEAR

20:13:40 LEASE OR SOMEBODY LIVING THERE FOR 20 YEARS?

20:13:45 THAT IS DISCUSSION FOR PLANNING.

20:13:47 AND FUTURE PLAN.

20:13:51 I KEEP HEARING ABOUT UBERS AND LYFTS, TRANSPORTATION, MODERN

20:13:57 TRANSPORTATION IS HOPEFULLY GOING TO BE DESIGNED FOR MOVING

20:14:01 PEOPLE, NOT VEHICLES.

20:14:08 I'M THINKING INTO THE FUTURE.




20:14:10 WOULD THIS HAVE BEEN BETTER SUITED FOR THE FUTURE?

20:14:18 WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE, IN THIS TIME, IN THIS TIME, OF A

20:14:24 HOUSING CRUNCH.

20:14:26 IN THE FUTURE, HOPEFULLY -- AND I AM GOING TO GO THERE --

20:14:30 THE ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION TAX PASSES.

20:14:34 I UNDERSTAND BEFORE YOU START, I WILL BACK UP.

20:14:38 WE DON'T HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION NOW.

20:14:42 WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS, THIS WOULD BE BETTER USED FOR

20:14:45 FUTURE LAND USE.

20:14:48 AND I CAN SAY THAT.

20:14:52 I HAVE SAID MY PIECE.

20:14:56 THANK YOU.

20:14:56 WE HAVE A MOTION THAT HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA,

20:14:59 SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

20:15:02 BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, MR. CREMER.

20:15:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS IT SOMETHING YOU ARE GOING TO REQUIRE

20:15:09 OF MR. CREMER?

20:15:10 YOU HAVE TO REOPEN THE HEARING.

20:15:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE HEARING?

20:15:14 >> SO MOVED.

20:15:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECOND BY

20:15:20 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

20:15:25 I JUST WANT TO BE SURE -- I REALIZE THERE'S ONLY SIX COUNCIL

20:15:29 MEMBERS ON HERE AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE FOUR AFFIRMATIVE

20:15:32 VOTES.




20:15:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, I THINK THAT POINT HAS PASSED.

20:15:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEN THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:15:38 FORGET IT.

20:15:38 I STAND CORRECTED.

20:15:39 OKAY.

20:15:40 ALL IN FAVOR -- MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

20:15:48 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

20:15:50 ALL IN FAVOR?

20:15:52 THANK YOU.

20:15:55 ROLL CALL VOTE.

20:15:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR NOW IS ITEM

20:16:01 NUMBER 2.

20:16:02 AND THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN READ.

20:16:04 >>THE CLERK: YES, THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN READ.

20:16:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.

20:16:10 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

20:16:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.

20:16:15 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

20:16:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.

20:16:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.

20:16:23 >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT,

20:16:26 MANISCALCO, CITRO, MIRANDA, AND GUDES VOTING NO.

20:16:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE MOTION HAS BEEN DENIED.

20:16:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION NOW.

20:16:43 I'M SORRY.




20:16:43 >> GO AHEAD.

20:16:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M JUST SAYING, SOMEONE HAS TO MAKE A

20:16:47 MOTION.

20:16:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY, MAKE A MOTION FOR -- DO I HEAR A

20:16:52 MOTION?

20:16:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, A MOTION FOR NUMBER TWO.

20:16:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU HAVE TO STICK ON TWO.

20:16:59 IT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED.

20:17:01 IT HASN'T BEEN DENIED.

20:17:02 IT HAS NOT BEEN DENIED.

20:17:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT.

20:17:05 MR. MIRANDA IS CORRECT.

20:17:06 NOW, COUNCIL, ACCORDING TO YOUR CHARTER, YOU NEED AN

20:17:09 AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF FOUR IN ORDER TO TAKE ACTION

20:17:13 PARTICULARLY ON THIS DRI, SO IF THERE'S NOT ANOTHER MOTION

20:17:17 IN ORDER, IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO DENY.

20:17:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. WELLS, WE HAVE THE CRITERIA HERE

20:17:29 BEGINNING WITH ITEM NUMBER 3, THERE'S NOT ONE FOR ITEM

20:17:32 NUMBER 2.

20:17:32 MAY I JUST MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THIS DRI WITHOUT HAVING TO

20:17:36 STATE, TO GO INTO THE MORE DETAILS?

20:17:41 >>CATE WELLS: YES, SIR, THAT'S FINE.

20:17:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM NUMBER 2,

20:17:45 DRI-22-72367.

20:17:53 I THINK THAT'S IT.




20:17:54 ALL RIGHT.

20:17:55 MOTION TO DENY.

20:17:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WOULD IT BE CORRECT TO PUT, AS FAR AS

20:18:02 I'M CONCERNED, WHY?

20:18:04 I DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE DETAILS.

20:18:06 THEN I WILL LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS.

20:18:07 I SECOND THE MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.

20:18:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,

20:18:13 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

20:18:15 ROLL CALL VOTE.

20:18:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

20:18:18 >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.

20:18:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

20:18:21 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.

20:18:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

20:18:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

20:18:27 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT,

20:18:30 VIERA AND HURTAK VOTING NO.

20:18:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

20:18:33 >> COUNCIL, WOULD YOU CONSIDER REOPENING, TALK ABOUT THE

20:18:40 NEXT ITEM?

20:18:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE ALREADY CLOSED ON THAT.

20:18:47 I HAVE NEVER PERSONALLY REOPENED -- THE FIRST PART HAS BEEN

20:18:51 DENIED.

20:18:52 >> THESE MOTIONS STAND SEPARATELY.




20:18:56 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR.

20:18:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITHOUT THE FIRST ONE, THE SECOND ONE

20:19:02 BECOMES NULL AND VOID, AM I CORRECT?

20:19:06 MS. WELLS?

20:19:07 >> THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

20:19:08 THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING TO EXPLAIN.

20:19:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. WELLS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN?

20:19:12 >>CATE WELLS: WITHOUT THE AMENDMENT TO THE DRI, DEVELOPMENT

20:19:18 ORDER, I DON'T SEE HOW THE REZONING CAN MOVE FORWARD.

20:19:22 BUT IF MR. CREMER DISAGREES WITH THAT, CERTAINLY HE CAN

20:19:26 SPEAK TO COUNCIL ON THAT POINT.

20:19:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEN DO WE NEED A MOTION TO REOPEN FOR

20:19:31 NUMBER 3?

20:19:40 WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

20:19:42 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO REOPEN FILE REZ 21-52.

20:19:49 MR. CREMER.

20:19:54 I'M SORRY.

20:19:55 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

20:19:56 ANY OPPOSED?

20:19:58 THANK YOU.

20:19:59 MR. CREMER.

20:20:00 SORRY, IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT ALREADY.

20:20:02 >> I APPRECIATE THE INDULGENCE.

20:20:05 I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.

20:20:06 I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN, NOW THAT IT HAS BEEN DENIED, IF THE




20:20:10 CONCERN WAS THAT WE WERE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL ENTITLEMENTS,

20:20:13 YOU CAN STILL APPROVE THE REZONING.

20:20:14 WE WOULD JUST BE FORCED TO GO OUT AND APPLY OUR ENTITLEMENTS

20:20:18 FROM THOSE WHO HAVE THEM.

20:20:20 THE ISLAND HAS ONLY BEEN BUILT OUT AT ABOUT HALF OF ITS

20:20:24 DENSITY AND INTENSITY.

20:20:26 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT.

20:20:28 THANK YOU.

20:20:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE.

20:20:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE, IS THERE

20:20:34 ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CREMER?

20:20:41 IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TO THAT?

20:20:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO --

20:20:48 >> NO?

20:20:49 AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED WHILE I HAVE

20:20:51 BEEN ON COUNCIL.

20:20:53 SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME ON THIS.

20:20:58 EXCUSE ME.

20:20:59 MR. CREMER, WOULD YOU ALLOW MS. MANDELL TO SPEAK?

20:21:02 >> I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT.

20:21:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SAY THIS.

20:21:09 AND I AM NOT HERE FOR ANY -- AT ALL BUT IN THE BEGINNING WE

20:21:18 MADE IT VERY CLEAR THESE WERE GOING TO BE HANDLED TOGETHER.

20:21:21 THERE'S NO DOUBT THE RECORD SAYS THAT IF YOU READ IT BACK.

20:21:23 WE HAVE SAID THAT.




20:21:25 WE VOTED ON THAT.

20:21:26 AND NOW WE SAY NOW WE WANT TO SEPARATE IT.

20:21:30 I AM NOT IN THE MOOD TO GO TO WHAT WE AGREED TO IN THE

20:21:37 BEGINNING.

20:21:37 AND ALL PARTIES AGREED.

20:21:39 I DIDN'T HEAR ONE OBJECTION.

20:21:41 SO IT'S MY ASSUMPTION AT THAT TIME THAT THERE WAS NO

20:21:44 OBJECTION, THAT EVERYBODY APPROVED TO GO WITH TWO AT ONCE, 2

20:21:51 AND 3.

20:21:51 AND I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY, AND I AM GETTING OF AGE, BUT I

20:21:56 STILL HEAR PRETTY DAMN WELL.

20:21:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. MANDELL?

20:22:06 >>JULIA MANDELL: AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, JULIA MANDELL.

20:22:10 I WANT TO JUST UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE PROCEDURALLY.

20:22:13 WHAT I UNDERSTAND PROCEDURALLY HAS OCCURRED IS THE NOPC, NO

20:22:17 ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T ACHIEVE FOUR

20:22:19 VOTES.

20:22:23 DENIED?

20:22:24 THEN I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT.

20:22:26 THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD AGREE WITH MR. MIRANDA.

20:22:28 THESE WERE OPENED TOGETHER, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THOSE

20:22:32 NEED TO BE DEALT WITH IN THAT MANNER.

20:22:36 BUT AGAIN I WAS UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE WERE.

20:22:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. MANDELL.

20:22:42 NOW WE HAVE HEARD THE VOICE OF EXPERIENCE.




20:22:43 WE HAVE ALSO HEARD FROM MR. CREMER.

20:22:46 IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE?

20:22:48 >> SO MOVED.

20:22:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

20:22:52 SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

20:22:56 ALL IN FAVOR?

20:22:57 ANY OPPOSED?

20:22:59 WE ARE NOW CLOSED.

20:23:00 [ APPLAUSE ]

20:23:14 [SOUNDING GAVEL]

20:23:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHOA, WHOA, EXCUSE ME.

20:23:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME.

20:23:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE HEARING THAT WAS REOPENED IS NOW

20:23:23 CLOSED AND NOW YOU HAVE ITEM NUMBER 3.

20:23:26 >> NO.

20:23:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, BECAUSE WE DENIED THE FIRST ONE, NUMBER

20:23:31 2, WHICH MAKES NUMBER 3 NULL AND VOID NOW.

20:23:34 >> NOT ACCURATE.

20:23:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. WELLS.

20:23:43 >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS FOR THE RECORD.

20:23:47 WHEN STAFF WORKED ON THE REPORT FOR ITEM NUMBER 3, THE

20:23:50 REZONING, THE PRESUMPTION WAS THAT WITHOUT THE DRI

20:23:53 DEVELOPMENT ORDER BEING APPROVED, YOU COULDN'T MOVE FORWARD

20:23:56 WITH THE REZONING.

20:23:57 IF IT'S MR. CREMER'S POSITION THAT IT'S AN ISSUE OF SIMPLY




20:24:03 NOW ACQUIRING ENTITLEMENTS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MOVE

20:24:05 FORWARD WITH THE REZONING IF APPROVED, I WOULD ASK COUNCIL

20:24:08 TO GO AHEAD AND CONSIDER NOW THAT THE NOC FOR THE DRI

20:24:12 DEVELOPMENT ORDER HAS BEEN DENIED UNDER ITEM NUMBER 2, BASED

20:24:16 ON THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS CONSIDERED DURING THE HEARING, THAT

20:24:19 OPENED UP ITEM NUMBER 2 AND NUMBER 3, CONSIDER THE REQUEST

20:24:22 FOR REZONING BASED UPON THE EVIDENCE THAT'S BEEN TAKEN INTO

20:24:26 THE RECORD AND MAKE A DECISION AS IT RELATES TO WHETHER OR

20:24:29 NOT THE REQUESTED PD SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND

20:24:33 DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WITH APPLICABLE PROVISIONS IN THE

20:24:36 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

20:24:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: UNLESS SOMEBODY WANTS TO -- EXCUSE ME.

20:24:42 I AM GOING TO SIDE WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ON THIS.

20:24:46 IF SOMEONE AGAIN WANTS TO REOPEN.

20:24:50 MR. MIRANDA.

20:24:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE, BECAUSE I AM

20:24:54 GOING TO TAKE MY OWN ADVICE FROM COUNSEL FOR THE CITY.

20:24:59 I DON'T HAVE LAW DEGREE, ONLY COUNCILMAN VIERA, AND THAT

20:25:02 MIGHT NOT BE APPLICABLE IN COURT.

20:25:05 BUT I AM GOING TO AGREE WITH WHATEVER MS. WELLS SAID TO DO,

20:25:09 THAT'S WHAT I AM GOING TO DO.

20:25:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION TO REOPEN?

20:25:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM MAKING -- I AM MAKING A MOTION TO

20:25:15 REOPEN BASED UPON ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CATE WELLS TO

20:25:20 REOPEN.




20:25:21 >>CATE WELLS: TO TAKE ACTION ON THE REZONING APPLICATION

20:25:24 UNDER ITEM NUMBER 3.

20:25:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THE HEARING WAS

20:25:30 CLOSED.

20:25:31 >>CATE WELLS: I WILL DEFER TO YOU ON THE PROCEDURE OF WHEN

20:25:33 IT'S APPROPRIATE TO TAKE ACTION.

20:25:34 MY ADVICE TO CITY COUNCIL IS THAT THEY CONSIDER THE

20:25:37 APPLICATION THAT HAS BEEN FILED AS ITEM NUMBER 3 ON THE

20:25:41 REZONING, AND CONSIDER IT BASED UPON THE MERITS AND MAKE A

20:25:44 DECISION BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT IT COMPLIES WITH THE LAND

20:25:46 DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

20:25:50 BUT I WILL DEFER TO YOU, MR. SHELBY, AS THE CITY COUNCIL

20:25:53 ATTORNEY AS TO PROCEDURE.

20:25:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THEN,

20:25:56 COUNCIL, THAT AS MR. MIRANDA HAS STATED THAT THIS WAS

20:26:00 SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN TOGETHER, AND YOU HAVE HEARD EVERYTHING

20:26:03 THAT YOU NEED TO HEAR, YOU HAVE TAKEN IN THE EVIDENCE THAT

20:26:07 YOU NEED TO WEIGH THE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO

20:26:10 WEIGH THE DECISION.

20:26:11 AND THAT BEING SAID, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE

20:26:19 ORDINANCE THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU, AND MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE

20:26:21 THAT YOU DON'T REOPEN.

20:26:24 IS THERE A MOTION ALREADY TO REOPEN?

20:26:27 YOU DIDN'T VOTE ON IT YET.

20:26:28 SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO NOT REOPEN THE HEARING BECAUSE




20:26:32 THERE IS NO PURPOSE TO REOPENING THE HEARING BUT ACTUALLY TO

20:26:36 MOVE FORWARD TO COMPLETE IT BY TAKING A VOTE.

20:26:38 AND AGAIN, STATEMENTS OF FACT WHICH YOU RELY ON IN ORDER TO

20:26:45 MAKE YOUR DECISION, PLEASE.

20:26:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

20:26:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SAY YOU LEARN SOMETHING EVERY

20:26:52 DAY, AND I LEARN SOMETHING EVERY DAY AND NIGHT BECAUSE WE

20:26:56 HAVE BEEN HERE DAY AND NIGHT.

20:26:57 BUT I LEARNED SOMETHING EVERY DAY AND THAT I WILL NEVER OPEN

20:27:01 TWO AT THE SAME TIME AGAIN, EVER.

20:27:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST WAIT.

20:27:06 [ LAUGHTER ]

20:27:08 JUST WAIT.

20:27:12 OKAY.

20:27:13 DO WE STILL HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO REOPEN THIS?

20:27:17 >> NO.

20:27:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, WAS THERE A MOTION MADE AND A

20:27:24 SECONDED