TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MAY 19, 2022
9:00 A.M.
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09:01:22 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
09:01:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY
09:01:24 COUNCIL MEETING HELD THIS DAY ON MAY 19th, 2022.
09:01:29 IF WE COULD, MAY WE PLEASE RISE AND HAVE A MOMENT OF
09:01:37 SILENCE?
09:01:48 [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
09:01:58 THANK YOU.
09:01:59 JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF OUR
09:02:02 COUNTRY.
09:02:02 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:02:16 PLEASE BE SEATED.
09:02:17 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:02:20 >>THE CLERK: CARLSON?
09:02:20 VIERA?
09:02:20 MANISCALCO?
09:02:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MERE.
09:02:26 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:02:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:02:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:02:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:02:30 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:02:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY.
09:02:33 >>MORRIS MASSEY: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PUBLIC.
09:02:36 THIS IS THE MAY 19, 2022 MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
09:02:41 CITY OF TAMPA BEING HELD IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON THE
09:02:43 THIRD FLOOR OF OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD
09:02:47 HERE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:02:48 THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING IN PERSON OR VIEW
09:02:50 IT BY CABLE TELEVISION, ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640 OR FRONTIER
09:02:54 CHANNEL 15, OR BY THE INTERNET VIA
09:02:57 www.TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:03:03 THE PUBLIC IS ALSO ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING
09:03:05 DURING PUBLIC COMMENT FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER
09:03:08 SPEAKER EITHER HERE IN PERSON AT CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS OR
09:03:10 VIRTUALLY BY WAY OF COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR CMT.
09:03:14 HOWEVER, THE USE OF CMT DOES REQUIRE PREREGISTRATION WITH
09:03:17 THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
09:03:19 DIRECTIONS FOR PREREGISTRATION ARE INCLUDED IN THE NOTICE OF
09:03:22 THE MEETING AND ON THE AGENDA.
09:03:24 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ALSO PARTICIPATE IN QUASI-JUDICIAL
09:03:26 MATTERS REMOTELY VIA CMT, BUT CELL PHONES AND SMART PHONES
09:03:30 ARE NOT COMPATIBLE AS THEY WILL NOT ALLOW YOUR CAMERA WHEN
09:03:33 CONNECTED.
09:03:34 YOU MUST HAVE ACCESS TO A CMT DEVICE SUCH AS A TABLET OR
09:03:38 COMPUTER EQUIPPED WITH A CAMERA OR MICROPHONE THAT WILL
09:03:40 ENABLE YOU TO BE SEEN OR HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL AND OTHER
09:03:43 PARTICIPANTS IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER ONLY.
09:03:45 CAN I GET A MOTION TO WAIVE STANDING RULES TO ALLOW
09:03:54 PARTICIPATION BY CMT?
09:03:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:03:58 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:03:59 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:04:00 ANY OPPOSED?
09:04:01 THANK YOU.
09:04:02 DO WE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA?
09:04:08 I BELIEVE THERE IS --
09:04:11 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I BELIEVE THERE IS A MEMO FROM THE CHAIR
09:04:15 STAFFING STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS TO TAKE PLACE
09:04:18 AFTER REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS,
09:04:23 EXCEPT FOR ITEMS 62, 63, 76, WHICH WILL BE HELD UNTIL THE
09:04:27 END OF THE AGENDA.
09:04:28 THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT HAVE CHANGED.
09:04:31 THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CHANGES THAT I THINK MAY OCCUR DURING
09:04:33 THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
09:04:34 WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE OPEN TO DEAL
09:04:36 WITH THOSE MATTERS.
09:04:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SHALL WE GO THROUGH STAFF REPORTS RIGHT NOW
09:04:39 TO SEE IF A MEMO WILL DO OR DO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE -- ITEM
09:04:47 62, 63, AND 76 WILL BE HELD UNTIL 1:30, UNLESS WE GET
09:04:53 THROUGH THE AGENDA IN TIME.
09:04:54 ITEM NUMBER 64.
09:05:01 >>MORRIS MASSEY: MEMO FROM MR. BAIRD.
09:05:04 DO YOU NEED HIS APPEARANCE THIS MORNING?
09:05:06 YES.
09:05:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
09:05:08 ITEM 65, DO WE NEED STAFF HERE FOR THIS?
09:05:15 >>LUIS VIERA: NO, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:05:17 THANK YOU.
09:05:17 THE PRESENTATION FOR THAT IS GOING TO BE ON THIS TUESDAY, I
09:05:22 BELIEVE, AND ALL ARE INVITED TO COME, SO, NO, NOTHING AT
09:05:24 ALL.
09:05:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEN WE'LL CANCEL 65.
09:05:27 66.
09:05:29 WE'VE GOT A MEMORANDUM ASKING FOR THIS TO BE CONTINUED UNTIL
09:05:33 JULY 28.
09:05:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
09:05:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:05:39 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:05:40 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:05:41 ANY OPPOSED?
09:05:44 >>MORRIS MASSEY: ITEM 67, YOU HAVE A MEMORANDUM FROM ME.
09:05:46 I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH IT IN DETAIL WITH YOU ALL,
09:05:50 OTHERWISE, IF THAT WILL SUFFICE.
09:05:53 I BELIEVE THAT WAS COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION, SECONDED BY
09:05:56 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:06:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE'LL HOLD THAT.
09:06:01 ITEM NUMBER 68.
09:06:07 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THIS IS THE MEMORANDUM OF THE UPDATE ON THE
09:06:10 SOG MATTERS.
09:06:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: 69.
09:06:12 THAT'S ALSO A MEMORANDUM.
09:06:16 >>MORRIS MASSEY: HE'S ASKING IT BE CONTINUED UNTIL JUNE 16.
09:06:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:06:22 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:06:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:06:24 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
09:06:25 I SEE THAT MS. FEELEY IS ALREADY HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 70.
09:06:31 71?
09:06:34 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THERE WILL BE AN APPEARANCE OR A DISCUSSION
09:06:35 ON THAT ITEM, I BELIEVE, UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:06:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT GOES ALONG WITH 72.
09:06:40 73?
09:06:40 STAFF HERE FOR THAT.
09:06:50 74.
09:06:52 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I BELIEVE THAT IS A REPORT --
09:06:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND 75.
09:06:55 >>MORRIS MASSEY: WELL, NUMBER 74 IS A REPORT FROM MR.
09:06:58 SHELBY, WHO OBVIOUSLY IS ABSENT.
09:07:00 SO I WOULD ASK FOR THAT ITEM TO BE CONTINUED AT LEAST FOR 30
09:07:03 DAYS.
09:07:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SINCE 74 AND 75 WILL BE HEARD TOGETHER, WE
09:07:07 WILL CONTINUE BOTH OF THEM.
09:07:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:07:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCILMAN
09:07:16 MANISCALCO.
09:07:16 WHO SECONDED THAT?
09:07:17 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:07:18 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
09:07:20 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
09:07:21 ITEM NUMBER 76 WILL BE HEARD AFTER THAT.
09:07:30 >>MORRIS MASSEY: COULD I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CHANGES
09:07:32 TO THE AGENDA?
09:07:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:07:37 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:07:38 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
09:07:39 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
09:07:42 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:07:43 ALL RIGHT.
09:07:46 WE HAVE OUR CEREMONIALS.
09:07:48 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:08:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, IT IS
09:08:09 INDEED A PLEASURE OF MINE TO BE WITH A YOUNG LADY THAT I'VE
09:08:12 KNOWN SINCE I HAD LONG HAIR.
09:08:14 LET ME JUST SAY THAT SHE'S AN OUTSTANDING INDIVIDUAL.
09:08:21 HER PERSONALITY IS JUST FANTASTIC.
09:08:23 SHE SMILES AND GREETS EVERYBODY WITH A WARM FEELING THAT YOU
09:08:29 WANT TO STAY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:08:30 MAYBE THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOTTEN SO BIG SO QUICK.
09:08:34 LET ME READ THIS COMMENDATION TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY,
09:08:36 BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN HERE.
09:08:38 IN RECOGNITION TO 40 YEARS -- LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN -- 40
09:08:42 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF
09:08:45 TAMPA, UNA HAS HAD QUITE A CAREER WITH THE CITY.
09:08:48 STARTING OUT IN 1981 AS A SECRETARY.
09:08:52 THEN IN 1983 AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
09:08:55 THEN IN 1985 AN EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT.
09:08:58 THEN IN '93 FACILITIES MANAGER.
09:09:02 ARE YOU SURE YOU DIDN'T WORK MAYOR HERE OR SOMETHING?
09:09:05 YOU'VE BEEN EVERYWHERE HERE, UNA.
09:09:10 IT'S AMAZING THAT THEN SHE WORKED AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION
09:09:12 CENTER WHERE SHE STARTED AND DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB, AND
09:09:15 THAT WAS IN 2000, LEARNING THE CENTER'S COMPLEXITIES AND
09:09:19 INTRICACIES.
09:09:20 FINALLY, IN 2018, SHE WAS NAMED THE CONVENTION CENTER
09:09:24 DIRECTOR.
09:09:24 AMONG THE MANY ACHIEVEMENTS WITH HELPING THE CITY GROW AS A
09:09:29 DESTINATION AND WATCHING HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS DEVELOP
09:09:34 ACCORDINGLY WITH THE BEAUTIFUL INDIVIDUALS SHE HAD TO DEAL
09:09:37 WITH AND ALL THE CONTRACTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT
09:09:39 REQUIRES THE HOTEL DIRECTOR TO DO.
09:09:43 SHE HAS JUST DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB, AND MORE IMPORTANT
09:09:45 THAN THAT, WHEN WE HAD ABOUT, WHAT, 18 MONTHS OR TWO YEARS
09:09:48 OR SOMETHING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN
09:09:53 HERE ONE DAY AND THEN FINALLY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER AND
09:09:56 ALL THE LOGISTICS THAT SHE HAD TO DO TO MAKE SURE THE GUESTS
09:09:59 WERE PROPERLY TREATED, THAT THE INDIVIDUALS OF THE CITY WERE
09:10:02 PROPERLY TREATED AND THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD AT LEAST A
09:10:05 MICROPHONE THAT WORKED.
09:10:06 SHE DID IT ALL WITHOUT ONE WRINKLE.
09:10:08 IN OTHER WORDS, EVEN DURING HURRICANE SEASON, WENT SOMEWHERE
09:10:13 ELSE.
09:10:13 SHE DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
09:10:15 FOR THAT, MS. GARVEY, UNA MEANS ONE IN LATIN.
09:10:19 AND THERE'S ONLY ONE UNA GARVEY AND SHE'S RIGHT HERE TO MY
09:10:25 LEFT.
09:10:25 I ADMIRE HER.
09:10:27 JOKED WITH HER, IS YOUR NAME UNA, OR UNO, DOS, TRES.
09:10:33 WHICH MEANS, ONE, TWO, THREE --
09:10:35 IT IS A PLEASURE WITH SOME HEARTFELT THAT WE'RE LEAVING A
09:10:40 GREAT PERSON, RETIRING FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA AFTER 40
09:10:43 YEARS.
09:10:43 IF YOU GET MARY BRYANT'S RECORD AND UNA GARVEY'S RECORD,
09:10:48 THAT MEANS A TOTAL OF 100 YEARS.
09:10:49 CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU FOR HELPING DOING WHAT YOU DO
09:10:55 WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER AND EVERYONE HERE IS SO HELPFUL
09:10:59 THAT MADE THE CITY WHAT IT IS TODAY.
09:11:01 WE WANT TO THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS.
09:11:03 UNA -- EVERY BAND HAS A DIRECTOR, BUT NO CITY HAS UNA
09:11:09 GARVEY.
09:11:10 SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:11:13 IT'S MY HONOR AND MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS
09:11:16 COMMENDATION.
09:11:16 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:11:31 >> GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE COUNCIL.
09:11:33 UNA GARVEY, DIRECTOR OF TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
09:11:36 THIS IS THE LAST TIME I WILL BE APPROACHING THE BOARD.
09:11:41 I'M ACTUALLY NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING.
09:11:43 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:11:43 SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS OF SUPPORT
09:11:48 AS WE'VE CONTINUED TO GROW OUR DESTINATION AND TO BRING NEW
09:11:52 AMENITIES INTO OUR CITY AND INTO OUR CENTER.
09:11:55 IT HAS TRULY BEEN MY PRIVILEGE AND MY HONOR TO BE A CITY OF
09:12:00 TAMPA EMPLOYEE FOR 40 YEARS AND TO BE ALLOWED TO GROW
09:12:04 THROUGH THIS ORGANIZATION ALL THE WAY TO THE PINNACLE OF THE
09:12:07 TOP OF MY GAME AND TO LEAVE WITH A TEAM THAT REALLY HAS A
09:12:14 REALLY GOOD FOUNDATION, CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONALS ARE RUNNING
09:12:18 THAT CONVENTION CENTER, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT SHOULD YOU
09:12:23 NEED TO COME BACK FOR ANY REASON OR ANY OF THE EVENTS THAT
09:12:27 WE HOST IN OUR CONVENTION CENTER, THAT THEY WILL RECEIVE THE
09:12:30 SAME LEVEL OF SERVICES, EXEMPLARY THROUGHOUT THAT YOU CAN
09:12:36 EXPECT FROM OUR ORGANIZATION.
09:12:38 AND SO I THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, AND THE REST OF THE
09:12:44 COUNCIL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
09:12:46 I HAVE BEEN TRULY BLESSED.
09:12:47 THANK YOU.
09:12:49 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:12:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. GARVEY, I'M SURE THERE ARE SOME COUNCIL
09:12:57 PEOPLE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS TO YOU.
09:13:00 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:13:01 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE OVER THE
09:13:04 YEARS AND FOR THINKING BIG ABOUT AN IMPORTANT CENTER AND
09:13:10 ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR THE AREA AND THANKS FOR THE TOUR, THE
09:13:14 ROOFTOP.
09:13:14 THAT WAS REALLY SCARY WALKING AROUND.
09:13:16 >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
09:13:17 >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S EXCITING TO SEE ALL THE NEW CHANGES
09:13:19 WITH THE THINGS VISIBLE, THERE'S A LOT OF BUZZ ABOUT IT.
09:13:22 THANK YOU.
09:13:23 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:13:24 >>LUIS VIERA: I ECHO THOSE COMMENTS.
09:13:25 AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE.
09:13:27 FOUR DECADES IS A VERY, VERY LONG TIME, AND PUBLIC SERVICE
09:13:31 IS AN HONORABLE CALL NO MATTER IF IT'S ELECTED, NOT ELECTED,
09:13:35 NO MATTER WHAT IT WOULD BE, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR YEARS OF
09:13:38 SERVICE.
09:13:39 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:13:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU.
09:13:42 WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER, YOU AND YOUR TEAM, WHEN WE
09:13:45 WERE OVER AT THE CONVENTION CENTER DURING COVID.
09:13:47 WE APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR HELP, ALLOWING US TO
09:13:51 RUN EVERYTHING SMOOTHLY WITH THE REST OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:13:54 TEAM, WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOU AND EVERYBODY
09:13:56 THAT'S HERE WITH YOU TODAY.
09:13:57 SO WE APPRECIATE IT.
09:13:58 WE APPRECIATE YOU.
09:14:00 AND HAPPY RETIREMENT.
09:14:01 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:14:04 >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE
09:14:06 FOR THE CITY.
09:14:06 I HAVE SEEN IT MOSTLY FROM THE RESIDENT PORTION, AND COMING
09:14:11 DOWN TO THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS ALWAYS BEEN EASY,
09:14:15 WONDERFUL, GREAT TO GET AROUND.
09:14:17 AND CONGRATULATIONS ON ALSO JUST HERALDING IN THE
09:14:20 RENOVATIONS THAT ARE COMING.
09:14:22 >> OH, YOU'RE WELCOME.
09:14:24 >>LYNN HURTAK: THINKING FORWARD, PAST YOUR RETIREMENT, THE
09:14:27 CITY REALLY APPRECIATES THAT, AND I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST.
09:14:29 I HOPE YOU GET A CHANCE TO REST AND RELAX AND DO WHATEVER IT
09:14:32 IS THAT YOU WANT TO DO.
09:14:34 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:14:34 >> THANK YOU.
09:14:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR ORCHESTRATING A CONVENTION
09:14:39 CENTER THAT IS NOW -- PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY COME HERE
09:14:42 NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE A BIG PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN NOW REALLY,
09:14:44 REALLY ENJOY TAMPA.
09:14:46 SO I REMEMBER MANY YEARS AGO, MY FRATERNITY, WE MISSED OUT
09:14:50 ON A COUPLE OF NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE
09:14:53 FACILITIES TO HOLD IT OR THE HOTELS TO REALLY HOLD
09:14:55 CONVENTIONS HERE.
09:14:56 BUT I'M PROUD TO SAY NEXT YEAR MY FRATERNITY WILL BE THE
09:14:59 FIRST FRATERNITY NATIONAL, OF A NATIONAL CONCLAVE COMING TO
09:15:03 THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE THE AMENITIES THEY ARE
09:15:06 LOOKING FOR.
09:15:07 THANK YOU FOR THAT SUCCESS FOR US, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON
09:15:09 YOUR RETIREMENT.
09:15:10 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:15:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. GARVEY, YOU STEPPED IN, AND YOU TOOK
09:15:13 CONTROL WHEN WE WERE HIT WITH COVID, AND YOU TRANSFORMED
09:15:19 THAT CONVENTION CENTER INTO A CHAMBER FOR CITY COUNCIL AND
09:15:24 OTHER BOARDS AND COMMITTEES TO DO THEIR WORK.
09:15:29 I THANK YOU FOR WORKING SO WELL AND MAKING THAT POSSIBLE FOR
09:15:31 US.
09:15:31 IS THERE ANYBODY BEHIND YOU THAT YOU WANT TO MENTION,
09:15:34 INTRODUCE?
09:15:34 MAYBE YOUR HUSBAND?
09:15:36 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:15:38 >> AS LONG AS HE DOESN'T HAVE TO SPEAK, HE SAID HE WOULD BE
09:15:42 FINE TO BE INTRODUCED.
09:15:43 >> I'M RIGHT HERE.
09:15:44 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:15:46 >> I AM HONORED TO INTRODUCE MY ENTIRE TEAM FROM THE
09:15:49 CONVENTION CENTER WHO HELPED RUN YOUR EVENT WHILE YOU WERE
09:15:54 IN COVID-RELATED OPPORTUNITIES.
09:15:56 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I CAN PROBABLY BE PROUDEST OF IS THAT
09:16:01 WHEN WE CAME TO THAT MOMENT IN TIME IN 2020 THAT WE ACTUALLY
09:16:05 THOUGHT ABOUT HOW WE CAN RECOVER FROM IT, IT WAS MORE ABOUT
09:16:10 HOW WE REPURPOSE THE FACILITY AND RECOVER FROM IT.
09:16:12 AND BASED ON THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT THE TEAM HAS WITH OUR
09:16:17 CLIENTS, WE WERE ABLE TO RESCUE 87% OF OUR CLIENTS INTO
09:16:22 FUTURE YEARS.
09:16:23 SO THE FUTURE IS LOOKING VERY, VERY BRIGHT FOR OUR
09:16:26 CONVENTION CENTER.
09:16:27 AND THEN IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE CENTER SINCE LAST WEEK,
09:16:31 WE HAVE COMPLETELY REMODELED THE ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR.
09:16:34 YOU WILL FIND IT COMPLETELY DONE WITH NEW CARPETS, FINISHES,
09:16:39 PAINT, TEXTURES.
09:16:40 THERE'S NEW FURNITURE COMING.
09:16:42 WELL, NOT NEW FURNITURE, BUT REUPHOLSTERED FURNITURE BECAUSE
09:16:49 WE WANTED TO SAVE TAXPAYER DOLLARS, AND WE HAVE ALL
09:16:51 BRAND-NEW SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY.
09:16:52 SO I WELCOME YOU TO COME IN AND MEET WITH ONE OF OUR TEAM
09:16:55 MEMBERS.
09:16:55 THEY'LL BE HAPPY TO WALK YOU BACK THROUGH AND SHOW YOU ALL
09:16:58 OF THE GREAT THINGS HAPPENING IN THE CONVENTION CENTER.
09:17:01 AND WE ARE STILL ON TARGET TO BE COMPLETED WITH OUR
09:17:04 EXPANSION IN '23 OF MAY AND WE ARE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED
09:17:07 ABOUT WHAT THAT OPPORTUNITY BRINGS FOR US.
09:17:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WELL, I WANT YOU TO BE THERE FOR THAT RIBBON
09:17:14 CUTTING OF THE EXPANSION AND BE CERTAIN THAT I'LL SAVE A
09:17:17 PARKING SPACE FOR YOU.
09:17:18 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:17:23 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIRMAN.
09:17:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. GARVEY.
09:17:26 >> THANK YOU.
09:17:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU ALL.
09:17:27 MS. SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES.
09:18:21 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:18:34 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:18:35 SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
09:18:39 I'M HERE TO GO OVER ITEM NUMBER 2 THROUGH 7.
09:18:46 AND THE FIRST ITEM WOULD BE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PUBLIC
09:18:50 NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD.
09:18:52 WE HAVE ONE CANDIDATE, RANDY KEVIN JACKSON, IF HE WOULD COME
09:19:00 FORWARD.
09:19:05 >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:19:06 HONORABLE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, GOOD
09:19:11 MORNING.
09:19:11 I AM RANDY JACKSON.
09:19:14 I'M REQUESTING REAPPOINTMENT TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT/PUBLIC
09:19:22 NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD.
09:19:23 A LITTLE ABOUT ME, I RESIDE IN THE AREA OF NEW TAMPA IN THE
09:19:23 SUBDIVISION OF ARBOR GREEN.
09:19:23 I'M EMPLOYED BY THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE AS A CIVILIAN
09:19:28 ANALYST HERE AT MacDILL.
09:19:29 I HAVE A COMBINED 15 YEARS OF TAMPA RESIDENCY BETWEEN SOUTH
09:19:34 TAMPA AND NEW TAMPA.
09:19:36 IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 9 OF THE CITY CODE, APPOINTMENTS
09:19:41 ARE MADE ON THE BASIS OF EXPERIENCE OR INTEREST IN THE
09:19:45 SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION.
09:19:48 I HAVE BOTH.
09:19:49 AS MY SECOND TERM CONCLUDED, I WAS THE CHAIR FOR THE
09:19:56 COMBINED BOARD.
09:19:57 I REMAIN INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING FOR THE POSITION, ONE,
09:20:03 BECAUSE MY LIFE IS ENRICHED BY HAVING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING
09:20:06 OF OUR CITY GOVERNMENT.
09:20:07 TWO, I CONTRIBUTE IN SOME SMALL WAY TO THE BETTERMENT OF
09:20:12 POSITIVE GROWTH OF OUR COMMUNITY.
09:20:14 AND, THREE, I'M AFFORDED THE PLATFORM ON WHICH TO BE AN
09:20:19 EXAMPLE TO MY TWO SONS AS I ENGAGE MY CIVIC DUTY AT THE MOST
09:20:23 IMPORTANT LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT.
09:20:24 HERE AGAIN, I AM REQUESTING REAPPOINTMENT TO A THIRD TERM.
09:20:29 THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
09:20:32 HAVE A GOOD DAY.
09:20:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REAPPOINT.
09:20:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:20:38 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:20:42 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:20:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:20:48 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:20:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:20:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:20:52 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:20:53 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:20:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:20:55 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:20:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:20:59 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
09:21:01 I'M HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 3, THOMAS J. PLUCKHAHN CAN'T MAKE
09:21:10 IT.
09:21:11 HE'S ASKING FOR REAPPOINTMENT TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
09:21:16 BOARD.
09:21:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REAPPOINT.
09:21:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:21:21 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:21:22 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:21:23 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:21:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:21:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:21:26 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:21:27 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:21:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:21:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:21:30 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:21:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:21:34 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
09:21:36 HERE FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD, JOHN JOSEPH PROKOP,
09:21:45 IF HE'S HERE.
09:21:52 >> I ACTUALLY DIDN'T KNOW I WOULD BE ASKED TO SPEAK TODAY.
09:21:54 I'VE BEEN PRACTICING ARCHITECTURE FOR 40 YEARS AND HAVE
09:21:59 COMPLETED NUMEROUS AWARD-WINNING HISTORIC RESTORATION AND
09:22:04 RENOVATION PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
09:22:06 I WAS NOMINATED TO SERVE ON THE NEW ORLEANS ARCHITECTURAL
09:22:08 REVIEW BOARD BUT HAD TO RELOCATE BEFORE I COULD SERVE.
09:22:12 I'VE BEEN HERE IN TAMPA, RESIDENT IN TAMPA FOR 20 YEARS, AND
09:22:17 I WOULD BE HONORED TO HELP GUIDE DEVELOPERS, RESIDENTS,
09:22:24 CITIZENS TO HELP PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF OUR HISTORIC
09:22:29 NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUILDINGS.
09:22:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REAPPOINT.
09:22:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:22:36 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:22:38 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:22:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:22:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:22:41 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:22:43 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:22:44 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:22:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:22:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:22:47 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:22:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:22:54 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
09:22:57 HERE FOR THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION, ROBERT ANTONIO
09:23:05 TORRES.
09:23:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T SEE MR. TORRES HERE.
09:23:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REAPPOINT.
09:23:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:23:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:23:18 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:23:21 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:23:24 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:23:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:23:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:23:27 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:23:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:23:29 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:23:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:23:31 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:23:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:23:37 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
09:23:40 HERE FOR THE HILLSBOROUGH CITY COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION.
09:23:46 THE FIRST ONE, FIRST APPLICANT IS MR. STEVEN D. BLAIR.
09:23:53 HE CAN'T MAKE IT, AND HE LEFT THIS STATEMENT.
09:23:57 "I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR MY APPOINTMENT TO THE
09:24:01 PLANNING COMMISSION DESPITE MY INABILITY TO APPEAR IN PERSON
09:24:06 DUE TO COVID.
09:24:07 I STOOD BEFORE YOU THREE YEARS AGO AS AN APPLICANT FOR THIS
09:24:12 COMMISSION AS WELL AS AN APPLICANT FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW
09:24:15 BOARD TO WHICH YOU APPOINTED ME.
09:24:19 IN MY TWO-YEAR TERM ON THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD, I FURTHER
09:24:24 LEARNED THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNICATION, LEADERSHIP, AND
09:24:28 TRANSPARENCY IN WORKING WITH A SMALL GROUP TO SOLVE ISSUES
09:24:33 AND CREATE COLLABORATION.
09:24:36 NOW THAT I'VE ROLLED OFF THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD, I WOULD
09:24:39 LIKE TO FURTHER ENGAGE IN HELPING LEAD OUR COMMUNITY TO EVEN
09:24:43 GREATER SUCCESS.
09:24:45 I WOULD LOVE TO BE APPOINTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO
09:24:48 HELP STRATEGICALLY AND COLLABORATIVELY PLAN FOR THE CITYWIDE
09:24:56 GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
09:24:59 I'VE LOVED, WORKED AND VOLUNTEERED IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR 16
09:25:04 YEARS.
09:25:04 MY PROFESSIONAL WORK AT USF AND MY 13 YEARS ON THE BOARD OF
09:25:11 MY TAMPA PALMS HOA FURTHER ATTESTS TO MY STRENGTH AND
09:25:17 ABILITIES.
09:25:18 I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APOLOGIZE FOR THIS
09:25:23 UNEXPECTED ABSENCE TODAY."
09:25:25 THERE ARE THREE APPLICANTS.
09:25:30 STEVEN BLAIR, HEMANT SARIA, AND JEFFREY ANTHONY MARTELL.
09:25:39 THE NEXT APPLICANT IS HEMANT SARIA.
09:25:57 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
09:25:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
09:26:00 >> I MOVED TO TAMPA IN 2018, SO I'M A FAIRLY NEW RESIDENT
09:26:05 COMPARED TO OTHER APPLICANTS.
09:26:07 37 YEARS OLD.
09:26:08 I GREW UP IN NEPAL.
09:26:10 I LIVED IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES -- TAIWAN, DIFFERENT STATES
09:26:14 IN THE U.S.
09:26:18 STARTING FROM FLORIDA, GEORGIA, WASHINGTON, D.C., MARYLAND,
09:26:22 ALASKA, AND BACK TO FLORIDA AGAIN IN 2018.
09:26:25 I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH UNITED AIRLINES FOR THE PAST TWO AND
09:26:33 A HALF YEARS AND BEEN IN THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY FOR MORE THAN
09:26:37 12 YEARS.
09:26:38 I BELIEVE THAT ONE OF THE IMPORTANT PART OF FLORIDA AS WELL,
09:26:43 AVIATION IS A BIG COMMUNITY, IMPORTANT ASPECT OF ECONOMIC
09:26:47 GROWTH OVER HERE AS WELL.
09:26:48 HOWEVER, AS A CITIZEN, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO
09:26:52 TAKE PARTICIPATION IN THE GOVERNMENT WORKINGS AND HAVE A
09:26:56 GOOD UNDERSTANDING AS WELL.
09:26:57 SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS I APPLIED.
09:27:02 ONE OF THE KEY THINGS I LIKE TO DO IS UNDERSTAND THE DATA
09:27:06 BEHIND ALL THE PLANNING BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS BASED ON
09:27:10 ANALYTICS, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S IMPORTANT.
09:27:15 HOWEVER, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CITIZEN'S POINT OF VIEW, THERE
09:27:20 CAN BE CERTAIN THINGS THAT MAY NOT WORK.
09:27:24 HOWEVER, THAT'S MY GOAL TO BRING TO THE TABLE WHEN IT COMES
09:27:29 TO CITY PLANNING.
09:27:31 ALSO, BEING ABLE TO TRAVEL TO DIFFERENT CITIES, DIFFERENT
09:27:35 COUNTRIES AT THE SAME TIME GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE
09:27:38 WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK IN THE CITY.
09:27:41 HOWEVER, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THE
09:27:44 HERITAGE AND MOVE IN THE DIRECTION WHICH IS IN LINE WITH THE
09:27:49 REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITIZENS.
09:27:50 SO I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY INFORMATION, IF I GET SELECTED
09:27:59 TO THE POINT, IN THE CITY PLANNING.
09:28:03 THAT'S ABOUT IT.
09:28:04 THANK YOU.
09:28:10 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
09:28:12 THE THIRD APPLICANT IS JEFFREY ANTHONY MARTELL.
09:28:21 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:28:22 THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE CONSIDERED
09:28:26 FOR THE POSITION.
09:28:26 MY NAME IS JEFFREY MARTELL.
09:28:29 ON THE PROFESSIONAL SIDE, I'M A LICENSED CIVIL ENGINEER,
09:28:32 ALSO WORKING IN TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING.
09:28:35 I WORK FOR A COMPANY CALLED STONEFIELD ENGINEERING AND
09:28:39 DESIGN, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE IN RIVER GATE TOWER.
09:28:41 THROUGHOUT MY CAREER, ABOUT 90% OF THE PROJECTS I'VE WORKED
09:28:44 ON HAVE BEEN IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, LAND DEVELOPMENT
09:28:47 PROJECTS, RETAIL, RESIDENTIAL, OFFICE, MULTIFAMILY,
09:28:51 INDUSTRIAL, ET CETERA.
09:28:52 ABOUT 10% OF THE PROJECTS BEING IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR,
09:28:56 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND
09:28:59 UNIVERSITIES, AS WELL AS RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS.
09:29:02 ON THE PERSONAL SIDE, MY FAMILY AND I LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA IN
09:29:06 THE BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:29:08 WE'RE NEW RESIDENTS TO THE COMMUNITY.
09:29:10 OBVIOUSLY, TAMPA IS GROWING, AND WE'RE CERTAINLY A PRODUCT
09:29:13 OF THAT.
09:29:13 I DO HAVE A STRONG DESIRE TO BE A CONTRIBUTING MEMBER OF THE
09:29:16 COMMUNITY AND THE CITY, AND I SUBMITTED MY APPLICATION FOR
09:29:21 THIS POSITION BECAUSE I DO THINK IT IS THE PERFECT MARRIAGE
09:29:25 BETWEEN WHAT I'M LOOKING TO DO ON THE PERSONAL SIDE,
09:29:27 OBVIOUSLY BECOME INVOLVED AND CONTRIBUTE, AND MARRIED WITH
09:29:30 MY PROFESSIONAL SKILL SET AND EXPERIENCE.
09:29:33 I REGULARLY ATTEND PUBLIC PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
09:29:36 MEETINGS THROUGHOUT MY CAREER.
09:29:38 I'VE ATTENDED AND PARTICIPATED IN 300 PLUS MEETINGS.
09:29:41 SO I THINK I WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR THE POSITION.
09:29:44 THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE TIME.
09:29:53 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: COUNCIL, A BALLOT IS REQUIRED.
09:29:56 SO IF YOU COULD COMPLETE YOUR BALLOT, AND I WILL COUNT THEM.
09:30:05 WE CAN MOVE ON TO NUMBER 7, THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
09:30:10 AND WE HAVE SAMANTHA DECKER AND CHER LENA POWERS.
09:30:16 THE FIRST APPLICANT IS SAMANTHA DECKER.
09:30:28 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
09:30:33 MY NAME IS SAM DECKER.
09:30:34 I CURRENTLY SERVE AS AN ALTERNATE POSITION ON THE VARIANCE
09:30:37 REVIEW BOARD.
09:30:38 I'VE SERVED IN THAT POSITION SINCE 2019.
09:30:42 IN MY NEARLY THREE YEARS OF SERVING IN AN ALTERNATE
09:30:45 POSITION, I'VE ATTENDED NEARLY EVERY MEETING BECAUSE WE ARE
09:30:47 IN NEED OF SOME -- TO FILL SOME EMPTY SEATS.
09:30:51 I'VE HEARD OVER A HUNDRED VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD CASES.
09:30:56 BY DAY I'M A REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY.
09:30:58 I REVIEW THINGS LIKE SITE PLANS, SURVEYS, EASEMENTS AND
09:31:02 ENGINEERING REPORTS ON A DAILY BASIS.
09:31:03 I THINK THIS HAS REALLY HELPED MY CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE
09:31:07 VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AS WE REVIEW SIMILAR DOCUMENTS
09:31:10 SUBMITTED BY APPLICANTS.
09:31:11 TODAY, I'M APPLYING FOR A FULL POSITION AS THE CIVIC
09:31:14 REPRESENTATIVE.
09:31:15 THIS WAS A POSITION THAT WAS VACATED BY DR. SUSAN LONG BACK
09:31:19 IN DECEMBER.
09:31:19 I LIVE IN THE BALLAST POINT NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:31:22 MANY OF THE VARIANCE CASES THAT WE HEAR ARE FOR PROPERTIES
09:31:25 IN AND AROUND THE SOUTH TAMPA AREA.
09:31:27 SO I THINK THAT I HAVE A GOOD PULSE ON WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD
09:31:30 IS LOOKING FOR AND BELIEVE THAT I CAN FILL THE CIVIC
09:31:34 REPRESENTATIVE POSITION AS IT WAS INTENDED.
09:31:37 I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
09:31:38 THANK YOU.
09:31:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:31:49 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THE NEXT APPLICANT IS CHER LENA
09:31:51 POWERS.
09:32:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION.
09:32:05 MS. SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, WAS ONE APPLICATION FOR A
09:32:10 PERMANENT AND ONE WAS --
09:32:15 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: TO FILL THE ALTERNATE, YES.
09:32:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION --
09:32:18 >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT.
09:32:20 AND I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
09:32:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECONDED
09:32:28 BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:32:30 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:32:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:32:32 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:32:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:32:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:32:36 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:32:37 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:32:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:32:39 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:32:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I SECOND THE CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.
09:33:03 >>THE CLERK: WE NEED A MOTION FOR THE SECOND ALTERNATE
09:33:06 POSITION.
09:33:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:33:09 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:33:11 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:33:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:33:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:33:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:33:15 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:33:15 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:33:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:33:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:33:50 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: COUNCIL, THE FIRST ROUND FOR THE
09:33:54 HILLSBOROUGH CITY-COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION ARE AS FOLLOWS:
09:33:59 STEVEN BLAIR HAS TWO VOTES.
09:34:02 THEY ARE FROM VIERA AND MIRANDA.
09:34:06 HEMANT SARIA HAS THREE VOTES.
09:34:15 AND JEFFREY ANTHONY MARTELL HAS TWO VOTES.
09:34:20 WE WILL HAVE TO VOTE AGAINST.
09:34:24 >>MORRIS MASSEY: COULD YOU ANNOUNCE WHO VOTED FOR THE OTHER
09:34:28 CANDIDATES AS WELL?
09:34:28 WE HAVE TO ANNOUNCE WHO VOTED FOR WHO.
09:34:32 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: YES, HEMANT SARIA, THE VOTES CAME
09:34:36 FROM CARLSON, HURTAK, AND CITRO.
09:34:40 JEFFREY MARTELL, THE VOTES CAME FROM GUDES AND MANISCALCO.
09:34:48 SO WE NEED AT LEAST FOUR.
09:36:19 >>MORRIS MASSEY: WOULD YOU PLEASE SILENCE YOUR PHONES IF
09:36:23 YOU'RE RINGING OUT?
09:36:24 THANK YOU.
09:36:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF WE CAN PLEASE HAVE OUR CELL PHONES ON
09:36:31 SILENT.
09:36:32 THANK YOU.
09:36:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.
09:37:01 I WANTED TO MENTION WHEN WE DID OUR INVOCATION, BUT TODAY IS
09:37:04 THE ANNIVERSARY OF TWO POLICE OFFICERS THAT WERE KILLED IN
09:37:06 THE LINE OF DUTY, BELL AND CHILDERS, IN 1998.
09:37:11 TODAY IS 24 YEARS.
09:37:13 I KNOW WE ALL REMEMBER THAT DAY, BUT I JUST WANT TO
09:37:16 ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.
09:37:18 AND WE REMEMBER THEM FOR THEIR SACRIFICE AND SERVICE TO THE
09:37:22 CITY.
09:37:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:37:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT.
09:37:26 I REMEMBER THAT DAY BECAUSE I WAS THERE THAT DAY.
09:37:29 I REMEMBER THE INTERSTATE AT FLORIBRASKA, THE HOTEL, THE
09:37:38 OTHER COUNTY OVER.
09:37:42 WORKED WITH THOSE GUYS, DETECTIVES ON MANY CASES.
09:37:50 THAT WAS ONE HECK OF A DAY IN TAMPA THAT DAY, GENTLEMEN.
09:37:53 THAT WAS ONE HECK OF A DAY.
09:37:56 TOTAL CHAOS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
09:37:58 GOD IS A MERCIFUL GOD AND HE'S A GOOD GOD.
09:38:06 WE GOT PAST IT.
09:38:07 THAT WAS ONE HELL OF A DAY.
09:38:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF BENNETT.
09:38:16 >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:38:17 GOOD MORNING, PUBLIC.
09:38:18 JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
09:38:20 I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THE NEVER TO BE
09:38:23 FORGOTTEN DETECTIVES, AS COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED, I TOO
09:38:30 WAS BOTH ON EVERY SCENE THAT DAY, INCLUDING THE APPREHENSION
09:38:34 AND ENDING OF THE SUSPECT.
09:38:35 WE ALL SHOULD RECOGNIZE THAT WE LOST A STATE TROOPER IN THAT
09:38:38 SAME DAY, IN THAT SAME JOURNEY AS WELL.
09:38:42 AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU AND THE PUBLIC ACKNOWLEDGING THAT
09:38:44 DAY.
09:38:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
09:38:49 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
09:38:52 THE INDIVIDUAL SELECTED FOR THE HILLSBOROUGH CITY-COUNTY
09:38:56 PLANNING COMMISSION IS HEMANT SARIA, WHO HAS FOUR VOTES.
09:39:02 THE VOTES WERE AS FOLLOWS: STEVEN BLAIR HAD TWO VOTES FROM
09:39:07 VIERA AND MIRANDA.
09:39:08 HEMANT SARIA HAD FOUR VOTES FROM CARLSON, GUDES, HURTAK, AND
09:39:18 CITRO.
09:39:19 AND JEFFREY MARTELL HAD ONE VOTE FROM MANISCALCO.
09:39:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES.
09:39:28 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:39:28 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.
09:39:42 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:39:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING TO YOU.
09:39:43 ON THE ELMO.
09:39:53 DO WE HAVE THE PowerPoint PRESENTATION?
09:40:01 I.T.?
09:40:14 THERE WE GO.
09:40:24 THANK YOU.
09:40:25 >> ONCE AGAIN, GOOD MORNING.
09:40:26 THIS IS YASSERT GONZALEZ, PLANNING COMMISSION.
09:40:29 I HOPE THIS DAY IS TREATING YOU WELL.
09:40:31 YOU KNOW, SPEAKING, REFERRING TO AN EARLIER ITEM, YOU KNOW,
09:40:35 MAKING TAMPA A VERY INTERESTING DESTINATION.
09:40:38 WHEN I USED TO TRAVEL BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, WE USED TO LOOK
09:40:41 AT AIRPORT DESTINATIONS, AND THE ANSWER WAS ALWAYS YES WHEN
09:40:44 I WAS GOING TO TAMPA.
09:40:45 I SAID THE MOST INTERESTING -- ALWAYS YES.
09:40:49 ANYWAY, SO THIS ITEM IS AN INFORMATION ITEM ONLY.
09:40:54 I LIKE TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE MS. CRAMER HERE FROM
09:40:57 THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS OFFICE ON BEHALF OF MR. LATIMER
09:41:03 THAT WAS HERE IN PREVIOUS --
09:41:08 PERFECT, PERFECT.
09:41:09 SO WHY DO WE VISIT THE CITY COUNCIL EVERY FOUR YEARS?
09:41:15 FIRST OF ALL, IT'S REQUIRED BY LAW AND IT'S SECTION 2.01 OF
09:41:20 THE CITY CHARTER, SO THAT'S WHY WE DO IT.
09:41:23 AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH WE HAVE APPOINTED A NEW
09:41:26 COMMISSIONER, CONGRATULATIONS, RECOMMENDS, STAFF RECOMMENDS,
09:41:31 AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVES THE NEW BOUNDARIES.
09:41:35 AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS AS THE CITY IS A FAST-GROWING
09:41:39 CITY, THAT THE POPULATION OF THE FOUR SINGLE-MEMBER
09:41:42 DISTRICTS IS AS EQUAL AS POSSIBLE.
09:41:45 SO WHEN WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE POPULATIONS BASED ON THE
09:41:52 CENSUS 2020 NUMBERS, WE NEEDED -- WE FOUND THE RANGE WAS
09:41:57 HIGHER THAN 5%.
09:41:58 I'LL SHOW YOU THAT LATER.
09:42:01 AND ALSO, ON REQUEST, ASIDE FROM BEING AS CONSERVATIVE AS
09:42:08 POSSIBLE, AVOID RETROGRESSION.
09:42:12 IT MEANS FOR THOSE HISTORICALLY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES,
09:42:15 WE ARE NOT HERE TO DILUTE THEIR VOTING POWER, SO WE'RE
09:42:19 TRYING TO KEEP THEM TOGETHER AS MUCH AS PRACTICAL.
09:42:23 SO THESE ARE A LOT OF NUMBERS IN THE CHART, BUT THE KEY
09:42:26 NUMBER IS RED IS 5.6%.
09:42:28 THAT'S WHAT THE POPULATION DEVIATION IS.
09:42:31 AGAIN, WE HAVE FOUR ALTERNATIVES THAT WE CREATED TO REDUCE
09:42:34 THIS NUMBER FROM 5.6 TO, AGAIN, HOPEFULLY LESS THAN 5.
09:42:38 THE PLANNING COMMISSION HISTORICALLY IN THIS -- AND THIS
09:42:46 INSTANCE WAS NO EXCEPTION, HAS ENGAGED IN A COMPREHENSIVE
09:42:52 OUTREACH EFFORT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
09:42:54 WE HAD A WEBSITE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.
09:42:56 SOMEBODY WITH A PEN AND A PENCIL CALCULATED THE
09:43:03 CALCULATIONS.
09:43:03 WE HAD LETTERS, E-MAILS, TELEPHONE CALLS, NEIGHBORHOOD
09:43:06 ASSOCIATIONS, YOURSELVES, SOME OF YOU MET WITH US.
09:43:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SPENDING THE TIME WITH US AND
09:43:13 GETTING TO KNOW THE PROCESS AND THE ALTERNATIVES.
09:43:15 THE NAACP, THE HISPANIC SERVICES COUNCIL, THE LEAGUE OF
09:43:18 WOMEN VOTERS, ET CETERA.
09:43:19 WE ALSO HOSTED A IN-PERSON, AGAIN, WEAR THE MASKS AND FOLLOW
09:43:26 THE SAFETY PROTOCOLS AT THAT POINT GOING ON, IN LOCATIONS
09:43:29 THROUGHOUT THAT -- YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MOVE A WHOLE
09:43:32 PRECINCT, SO WE HAD TO BE AS CLOSE.
09:43:35 THEY WERE ON WORK DAY EVENINGS.
09:43:39 TUESDAY, THURSDAY, WEDNESDAY, AGAIN, IT HELPED EVERYBODY.
09:43:42 IN KEEPING UP WITH THE TIMES, WE HELD TWO VIRTUAL WORKSHOPS
09:43:47 ON SATURDAY MORNINGS.
09:43:49 SO, AGAIN, FOR THOSE THAT COULDN'T MANAGE TO BE THERE ON A
09:43:52 WEEKDAY, THEY WERE HERE.
09:43:57 HERE IS A PICTURE OF ONE OF THE OPEN HOUSES THAT WE HAD.
09:43:59 AGAIN, MS. CRAMER AND HER STAFF WERE ON HAND TO ANSWER
09:44:06 QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC IN TERMS OF VOTING, WHAT DOES THIS
09:44:11 MEAN FOR ME?
09:44:11 WILL THIS CHANGE HOW I VOTE?
09:44:13 ALL THOSE THINGS.
09:44:14 THEY WERE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
09:44:16 PRESS RELEASES, NEWSPAPER ADVERTISEMENTS, ET CETERA.
09:44:18 AFTER ALL THAT, AGAIN, WE CAME TO YOU IN OCTOBER.
09:44:21 THERE WAS SOME ACTIVITY PRIOR TO THE HOLIDAY.
09:44:27 UNDERSTANDABLY SUSPENDED ACTIVITIES FOR THE HOLIDAY AND TOOK
09:44:29 THINGS RIGHT AFTER MLK DAY.
09:44:31 WE TOOK THINGS IN EARNEST AGAIN.
09:44:34 AND WE HAVE THE OPEN HOUSES.
09:44:36 AFTER THE OPEN HOUSES, THERE WERE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS OF THE
09:44:41 PLANNING COMMISSION.
09:44:42 AT THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
09:44:44 APPROVED WHAT WAS CALLED AT THAT POINT ALTERNATIVE 2.
09:44:48 AGAIN, BECAUSE WE DO THIS EVERY FOUR YEARS, THIS WAS
09:44:51 SURGICAL MOVEMENTS.
09:44:52 WE'RE NOT SWITCHING A TON OF PEOPLE AROUND.
09:44:54 SOME OF YOU THAT MET WITH US KNEW THAT.
09:44:57 COUPLE OF PRECINCTS HERE AND THERE.
09:44:58 AGAIN, WE DO THIS SO FREQUENTLY, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF
09:45:01 MAINTENANCE TO DO IN TERMS OF LIKE THAT.
09:45:03 SO, AGAIN, PRECINCT 318 MOVING FROM COUNCIL DISTRICT 5 TO
09:45:09 DISTRICT 6 AND 338, 7 TO 5.
09:45:13 THIS IS THE LOWEST RANGE AND AGAIN, YIELDED, BACK TO THE
09:45:17 FANCY WORD, RETROGRESSION, YIELDED THE MOST AFRICAN AMERICAN
09:45:22 BORDER IN DISTRICT 5.
09:45:23 AGAIN, OVER 50% AS WE SAW IN THE EARLIER SLIDE AND HISPANIC
09:45:30 VOTERS, NEAR 25%.
09:45:31 AGAIN, FANCY, A LOT OF NUMBERS.
09:45:32 I'M AN ANALYST.
09:45:33 I APOLOGIZE.
09:45:35 I LOVE THESE KIND OF CHARTS, I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY'S
09:45:38 FAVORITE.
09:45:39 TWO NUMBERS HERE SHOWING YOU AND THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
09:45:42 THAT, AGAIN, 51% OF THE VOTERS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT 5 ARE
09:45:48 AFRICAN AMERICANS AND HISPANIC VOTERS AROUND 25% IN DISTRICT
09:45:51 6.
09:45:51 ALTHOUGH I'M ONE PERSON HERE, THIS IS A CAST OF DOZENS, OF
09:45:57 COURSE.
09:45:58 YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE CANNOT THANK ENOUGH ELECTIONS.
09:46:03 YOU HAVE ONE OF THE BEST, IN MY OPINION, PERSONAL AND
09:46:05 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE IN TERMS OF SUPERVISION OF ELECTIONS.
09:46:10 AGAIN, WHEN I CAME OVER HERE RECENTLY, I MOVED TO
09:46:14 HILLSBOROUGH A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AGAIN, SUPER SMOOTH TO
09:46:17 TRANSFER.
09:46:17 I WAS ABLE TO WORK AS A POLL WORKER, EXTENSIVE TRAINING, ALL
09:46:21 THAT.
09:46:21 IT'S REALLY, REALLY TOP-NOTCH.
09:46:23 AGAIN, THE CITY OF TAMPA ATTORNEY, MR. SHELBY AND THEM
09:46:26 ALWAYS VERY PATIENT GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE LANGUAGE.
09:46:30 AGAIN, MY FIRST TIME DOING THIS PROJECT SO I HAD QUESTIONS
09:46:33 ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CITY CHARTER LANGUAGE AND THEY
09:46:41 WERE ABLE TO WALK ME THROUGH IT AND GET ME IN THE CLEAR IN
09:46:44 TERMS OF LEGAL MATTERS.
09:46:45 I ALWAYS LIKE TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE LEGAL STAFF, SO
09:46:49 THAT HELPED ME.
09:46:49 THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS ALWAYS VERY OPEN AND
09:46:53 MADE AVAILABLE SOME OF THE FACILITIES THAT THEY HAVE.
09:46:55 SO IT'S, AGAIN, FABULOUS.
09:46:58 LASTLY, BUT NEVER THE LEAST, IS THE PUBLIC COUNTY LIBRARY
09:47:03 SERVICES.
09:47:03 AGAIN, IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO BE IN THE LIBRARY
09:47:06 FACILITY, ONE OF THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS, IT IS AMAZING
09:47:09 STATE-OF-THE-ART, ALL THE TECH IS THERE.
09:47:11 AGAIN, WHATEVER YOU CAN DO TO SUPPORT THAT GOING FORWARD,
09:47:15 THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT.
09:47:16 AGAIN, JUST A SIGN OF THE TIMES.
09:47:20 INSTAGRAM IS VERY INFLUENTIAL.
09:47:22 AGAIN, PROPOSED BY NELSON AND HE WENT THROUGH ONE OF OUR
09:47:28 OPEN HOUSES AT THE LIBRARY, AND HE WAS BROADCASTING TO HIS
09:47:34 FOLLOWERS, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.
09:47:36 HE ENCOURAGED THEM TO GO OUT AS SOME OF THE COUNCIL PERSONS
09:47:40 HAVE SAID, WE HAVE UNFORTUNATELY A LOWER TURNOUT THAN WE
09:47:43 WOULD LIKE AT THE CITY ELECTIONS, SO THIS IS HELPFUL TO HAVE
09:47:46 THAT.
09:47:47 ANY QUESTIONS?
09:47:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS?
09:47:49 ANY QUESTIONS?
09:47:50 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:47:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK HE DID A GOOD JOB ON THE MAP, WHEN
09:47:56 YOU LOOK AT THE MAP AND YOU LOOK AT HOW DISTRICT 5, THE
09:48:00 UPPER SECTION OF THE ROWLETT PARK SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
09:48:04 IT GETS CONFUSING TO SOME OF THE VOTERS OF 5 AND 7.
09:48:07 SO I THINK BY DOING THAT, IT ALLEVIATES THAT PROBLEM AT
09:48:10 BUSCH BOULEVARD.
09:48:11 I THINK IT IS A GREAT JOB.
09:48:12 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:48:13 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
09:48:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
09:48:16 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:48:18 WE WILL NOW GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:48:27 PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:48:33 IF WE CAN PLEASE FORM A LINE TO MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT.
09:48:49 GOOD MORNING, SIR.
09:48:54 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:48:55 MY NAME IS PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS, LOCATED MISSIONARY BAPTIST
09:49:03 CHURCH.
09:49:03 I'M GOING TO READ SOME SCRIPTURE TO YOU ALL.
09:49:10 FROM THE BIBLE OF GENESIS.
09:49:15 19 CHAPTER.
09:49:20 BUT THEREFORE THEY LAY DOWN AND THE MEN OF THE CITY EVEN THE
09:49:26 MEN OF SOLOMON CAN PAST THE HOUSE.
09:49:34 BOTH OLD MEN AND YOUNG MEN.
09:49:38 THEY CALL UNTO THE LOT AND SAID UNTO HIM, WHERE ARE THE MEN
09:49:44 WHICH CAME INTO THEE THIS NIGHT?
09:49:46 BRING THEM OUT UNTO US THAT WE MAY KNOW THEM.
09:49:51 I PRAY YOU, BROTHER, DO NOT --
09:50:04 THE REASON I'M READING THAT TO YOU, ON TV WHERE I'M NOT --
09:50:15 TWO MEN KISSING EACH MAN IN THE MOUTH, WHEN I WAS CALLED
09:50:22 COMING UP, WE CALLED THEM SISSY.
09:50:25 THAT'S SO NASTY FOR THEM TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON TV.
09:50:29 I KNOW SOME OF YOU ALL MIGHT NOT WANT TO HEAR, BUT IT'S THE
09:50:33 TRUTH COMING FROM GOD.
09:50:35 I'M A PREACHER, AND I HAVE TO PREACH THE TRUTH REGARDLESS OF
09:50:38 WHETHER PEOPLE LIKE ME OR NOT.
09:50:41 AND THE THING WHAT WE'RE DOING NOWADAYS, IT'S AGAINST GOD
09:50:47 LAW AND AGAINST GOD RULES, AND WE -- I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW
09:50:54 THAT IT AIN'T ONLY BLACK MEN KISSING ONE ANOTHER IN THE
09:50:58 MOUTH -- OH, MY TIME UP ALREADY?
09:51:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, YOU HAVE ANOTHER 30 SECONDS.
09:51:04 >> IT'S NOT JUST BLACK MEN, BUT WHITE MEN, MESSING WITH
09:51:09 LITTLE BOYS.
09:51:11 MEN MESSING WITH LITTLE GIRLS.
09:51:13 GOD DON'T APPROVE THAT AND I DON'T EITHER.
09:51:15 AND WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, WE MUST DO WHAT'S RIGHT IN THE
09:51:20 SIGHT OF GOD.
09:51:20 I KNOW SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ME PREACH, BUT I
09:51:24 GOT TO PREACH WHAT GOD PUT ON MY HEART TO DO.
09:51:27 THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO UNTIL I GO TO THE GRAVEYARD BECAUSE GOD
09:51:31 HAS BEEN SO GOOD TO ALL OF US.
09:51:33 NOT JUST MEN, ALL OF US, SITTING IN HERE RIGHT NOW.
09:51:36 WE'RE NOT HERE ON OUR OWN.
09:51:38 WE'RE HERE BECAUSE GOD WOKE US UP IN DO TIME.
09:51:42 THAT'S WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT.
09:51:44 I WANT TO TELL YOU ALL, GIVE GOD THE PRAISE AND GLORY FOR
09:51:48 WHAT HE'S DOING FOR ALL OF US.
09:51:51 GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU ALL.
09:51:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:52:06 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:52:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
09:52:08 >> MY NAME IS BETTY J. BELL.
09:52:10 I LIVE IN EAST TAMPA.
09:52:11 I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 53 YEARS.
09:52:13 MY ADDRESS IS 3003 STAR STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33605.
09:52:19 I'M HERE THIS MORNING FOR TWO REASONS.
09:52:23 ONE, ON BEHALF OF COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:52:26 COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS BEEN IN EAST TAMPA WORKING TIRELESSLY
09:52:32 -- TIRELESSLY FOR THE CITIZENS IN EAST TAMPA.
09:52:36 I KNOW.
09:52:37 I HAVE BEEN AT SOME OF THE MEETINGS.
09:52:39 HE HAS BEEN AT SOME THAT CONCERN ME, AND HE WAS AT ONE MOST
09:52:43 RECENTLY, AND I TOOK A PICTURE WITH HIM.
09:52:48 I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT FROM MY HEART, WHEN YOU DECIDE TO
09:52:52 THROW STONES, MAKE SURE THOSE STONES DON'T COME BACK AND HIT
09:52:56 YOU.
09:52:57 AS OF THIS MORNING, I'M HERE FOR THE SENIOR CENTER IN EAST
09:53:02 TAMPA, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR THREE YEARS TO GET.
09:53:07 AND FOR SOME REASON THAT VENTURE HAS BEEN HELD UP.
09:53:13 NOT BECAUSE OF THAT OLD STORE, BUT BECAUSE OF OTHER REASONS,
09:53:18 BECAUSE BUILDINGS ARE GOING UP ALL OVER TAMPA, BUT YOU CAN'T
09:53:22 SEEM TO GET A SENIOR CENTER FOR THE SENIORS IN EAST TAMPA.
09:53:27 NOW, I WORK WITH A GROUP OF SENIORS, AND BEFORE THE
09:53:30 PANDEMIC, WE HAD 181 SENIORS.
09:53:33 NOW WE HAVE 79, WHICH IS PRETTY GOD.
09:53:37 WE WENT UP ON THE -- THAT THEY WERE TO PAY US IN ORDER TO BE
09:53:41 A MEMBER, WHICH WAS $10 A MONTH.
09:53:43 IT HAS GONE VERY WELL.
09:53:46 WE GO ON TRIPS.
09:53:47 WE ENJOY.
09:53:48 WE HAVE NO EQUIPMENT, NO EQUIPMENT, I SAY, LIKE MACHINES AND
09:53:55 ET CETERA.
09:53:56 WE ARE IN AN EVENT CENTER, AND WE NEED A PLACE.
09:54:00 WE NEED A PLACE WHERE THE SENIORS CAN COME AND ENJOY
09:54:03 THEMSELVES AND NOT HAVE TO GET UP AND LEAVE.
09:54:09 BEFORE WE WAS IN THAT SPACE WHERE WE HAD TO LEAVE EVERY TIME
09:54:12 THE CHILDREN CAME IN.
09:54:13 THERE ARE REC CENTERS ALL OVER TAMPA, BUT THEY DON'T
09:54:17 ACCOMMODATE THE SENIORS.
09:54:18 SO WE NEED A PLACE.
09:54:19 WE NEED IT BADLY.
09:54:21 I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING THAT IS WANTED.
09:54:25 I'M ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDED.
09:54:27 AND, COUNCILMAN GUDES, I WANT YOU TO CONTINUE WORKING FOR
09:54:31 EAST TAMPA.
09:54:32 WE APPRECIATE YOU.
09:54:33 THANK YOU.
09:54:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:54:35 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:54:38 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:54:39 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
09:54:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.
09:54:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE MS. TRAVIS IN THE AUDIENCE.
09:54:46 HOPEFULLY MS. TRAVIS CAN GET WITH YOU LATER.
09:54:48 WE'VE BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES.
09:54:50 I KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN PUSHING THEM AND PUSHING THEM.
09:54:53 AND I'M PRAYERFUL THAT WE'LL HAVE SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION
09:54:56 WITHIN THE END OF THIS MONTH, BEGINNING OF THIS MONTH.
09:55:00 THAT'S MY DREAM.
09:55:01 THAT'S MY VISION.
09:55:02 I KNOW WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS VENTURE, IT'S BEEN A LONG
09:55:06 TIME COMING, AND I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING
09:55:09 WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS TO SOLIDIFY THE DREAMS OF EAST TAMPA
09:55:13 AND THE DREAMS OF THE SENIOR BECAUSE THAT'S WHY IT'S ALL
09:55:16 ABOUT I RAN, MAKING SURE THAT SOME OF THE THINGS WE DIDN'T
09:55:19 HAVE IN EAST TAMPA THAT WE TRULY GET.
09:55:21 I HOPE MS. McCRAY AND MS. TRAVIS CAN GET WITH YOU AND SEE
09:55:24 YOU SOMETIME IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO AND GIVE YOU A HEADS-UP
09:55:28 OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED.
09:55:29 I'M PRAYERFUL THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
09:55:31 I'M VERY PRAYERFUL OF THAT.
09:55:34 THANK YOU.
09:55:38 >> CHAIR CITRO AND MEMBERS, MY NAME IS RYAN BARACK.
09:55:43 I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH KWALL BARACK NADEAU.
09:55:47 THE TAMPA CITY CHARTER AT SECTION 2.02 PROVIDES FOR
09:55:50 DISTRICTS FOUR THROUGH SEVEN THAT MEMBERS NEED TO BE
09:55:53 RESIDENT OF THE DISTRICT FOR SIX MONTHS IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO
09:55:55 COMMENCEMENT OF THEIR TERM IN OFFICE AND CONTINUE TO BE A
09:55:59 RESIDENT THROUGHOUT THEIR TERM.
09:56:00 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES MEETS THESE QUALIFICATIONS.
09:56:04 HE MOVED INTO DISTRICT 5 IN MARCH 2018, WELL IN ADVANCE OF
09:56:08 THE 2019 ELECTION AND HIS RESIDENCE HAS REMAINED IN THE
09:56:13 DISTRICT THROUGHOUT HIS TERM.
09:56:15 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES IS A DULY ELECTED MEMBER OF THIS
09:56:17 COUNCIL AND WILL CONTINUE TO REPRESENT AND ADVOCATE FOR HIS
09:56:20 CONSTITUENTS AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA.
09:56:22 THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR ME TO DISCUSS ACCUSATIONS, AND TO
09:56:26 BE CLERKS THAT'S ALL THEY ARE.
09:56:27 RATHER, WE WILL RESPOND AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME AND IN THE
09:56:31 APPROPRIATE FORUM.
09:56:32 I WANT TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ON MEDIA REPORTS REGARDING A SECRET
09:56:37 SETTLEMENT THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA PURPORTEDLY ENTERED INTO.
09:56:40 THIS IS VERY, VERY TROUBLING.
09:56:43 AND THE ACTIONS OF THE MAYOR AND THE CITY ATTORNEY AND USING
09:56:47 CITY FUNDS TO SHIELD THEMSELVES AND THEIR HUMAN RESOURCES
09:56:51 DEPARTMENT IS OUTRAGEOUS.
09:56:53 RESOLVING THE CLAIM IN SECRET WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF THE
09:56:57 INVESTIGATIVE TOOLS ASSOCIATED WITH LITIGATION, LIKE SWORN
09:57:00 TESTIMONY, DISCOVERY, AND WITHOUT INVOLVING CITY COUNCIL
09:57:05 MEMBER GUDES DOES NOT SERVE THE INTEREST OF THIS CITY.
09:57:07 AS A BOARD CERTIFIED LABOR AND EMPLOYMENT LAWYER WHO HAS
09:57:11 PRACTICED IN THIS COMMUNITY ALMOST 25 YEARS, CAN I TELL YOU
09:57:14 THIS IS NOT HOW CASES SETTLE.
09:57:16 SETTLEMENT WITHOUT THE EMPLOYEE HAVING TO FILE A CHARGE OF
09:57:18 DISCRIMINATION WITH THE EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY
09:57:19 COMMISSION, WHERE MANY OF THE ALLEGATIONS ARE TIME BARRED ON
09:57:25 THEIR FACE AND OTHERS DO NOT RISE TO THE HIGH LEGAL
09:57:28 STANDARDS TO SUPPORT A CLAIM IS SIMPLY UNPRECEDENTED.
09:57:31 SIMILARLY, A GOVERNMENT ENTERING INTO A SETTLEMENT THAT
09:57:36 PURPORTS TO SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDE CLAIMS AGAINST A DULY
09:57:39 ELECTED OFFICIAL, KNOWING THAT A LAWSUIT WILL BE FILED THE
09:57:44 NEXT WEEK AGAINST THAT SAME OFFICIAL, IT NEVER HAPPENS.
09:57:49 WHAT LEGITIMATE PURPOSE IS SERVED BY THIS SETTLEMENT?
09:57:54 THE ANSWER IS, THERE IS NO LEGITIMATE PURPOSE SERVED BY THE
09:57:58 SETTLEMENT.
09:57:58 THANK YOU.
09:58:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:58:06 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:58:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
09:58:08 >> I AM HERE TO PUT SOME INFORMATION OUT THERE BECAUSE
09:58:15 AROUND MY COMMUNITY, IT WAS STATED BY SEVERAL PEOPLE, AND
09:58:20 I'VE GOT SEVERAL CALLS, THAT THIS MEETING WOULD BE TO TAKE A
09:58:24 VOTE TO --
09:58:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME, MR. ADAMS.
09:58:27 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
09:58:29 >> EDDIE ADAMS, JUNIOR.
09:58:30 THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD MEET THIS MORNING AND TAKE A VOTE TO
09:58:34 REMOVE ONE OF THE COUNCILMEN.
09:58:38 I KIND OF LOOKED IT UP, AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN REMOVE AN
09:58:41 ELECTED OFFICIAL, EVEN SOMEBODY WORKING FOR THE SUPERVISOR
09:58:44 OF ELECTIONS OFFICE, IS TO EITHER HAVE A RECALL OR HAVE THE
09:58:48 GOVERNOR REPLACE THAT PERSON.
09:58:50 SO ANYBODY WHO IS LISTENING TO THIS AND WATCHING THIS WILL
09:58:55 KNOW THAT YOU GUYS CAN'T SIT UP THERE BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE
09:58:58 EQUAL AND VOTE SOMEBODY OUT.
09:59:00 THIS IS NOT LIKE THEY DO IN HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE OR
09:59:03 SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT.
09:59:04 AND THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT IT'S OUT
09:59:11 THAT THE CITY PAID SOMEONE $200,000 IN A CASE THAT'S
09:59:19 INVOLVING ONE OF THE COUNCILMAN WITHOUT IT GOING THROUGH THE
09:59:22 COUNCIL, WITHOUT IT GOING -- AND SOMEHOW THIS STUFF KEEPS
09:59:27 LEAKING OUT.
09:59:28 WELL, PART OF IT WAS ON THE NEWS.
09:59:30 SO EITHER YOU GUYS ARE LEAKING IT TO THE NEWS OR SOMEBODY
09:59:33 ELSE FROM CITY HALL IS LEAKING STUFF TO THE NEWS, AND I SAY
09:59:38 ALL THE TIME, I HAVE A RADIO PROGRAM.
09:59:41 I SAY ALL THE TIMES POLITICS IS A BLOOD SPORT.
09:59:44 BUT THIS IS IT AT ITS WORSE.
09:59:46 THIS IS WHEN PEOPLE ARE PRETTY MUCH CARRYING ON A VENDETTA
09:59:52 USING THE MEDIA AS A WEAPON AGAINST ONE OF YOUR BROTHERS,
09:59:55 YOU KNOW.
09:59:55 YOU ONLY GOT ONE LADY UP THERE.
09:59:58 FOR THE MOST PART, THIS IS NOT THE WAY WE SHOULD BE DOING
10:00:03 BUSINESS, AND I HEAR PEOPLE KEEP TALKING ABOUT CORRUPTION
10:00:06 AND ALL THIS KIND OF OTHER STUFF.
10:00:08 BUT YOU NEVER HEARD ME COME UP HERE AND TALK TO YOU GUYS
10:00:11 ABOUT CORRUPTION, BUT SOME OF THIS OTHER STUFF, IT MAY NOT
10:00:15 BE CORRUPTION, BUT IT'S JUST AS BAD BECAUSE YOU GOT A WHOLE
10:00:19 COMMUNITY BELIEVING THAT YOU GUYS ARE TEAMING UP ON ORLANDO,
10:00:23 AND I'VE COME BEFORE AND SAID, SO YOU ALL KNOW I SUPPORT
10:00:28 ORLANDO.
10:00:28 IDENTIFY SUPPORT THE BLACK LEADERS THROUGHOUT THIS COMMUNITY
10:00:31 BECAUSE AS A COMMUNITY, WE'VE GOT TO STAND TOGETHER.
10:00:34 THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ANYTHING HAPPEN.
10:00:36 SO I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT NO MATTER WHAT'S GOING
10:00:39 ON, BEHIND THE SCENES, ALL THIS STUFF IS GOING TO COME TO
10:00:43 LIGHT, AND I KNOW THAT FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, UNLESS
10:00:48 HE RESIGNS, WHICH I GOT PRETTY GOOD FAITH HE AIN'T GOING TO
10:00:52 RESIGN, THAT IS ONLY TWO LEGAL WAYS TO GET RID OF HIM, IF
10:00:56 THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
10:00:57 AND HE'S NOT GOING TO STEP DOWN ON HIS OWN.
10:01:01 I CAN'T SPEAK FOR HIM, BUT I'M SAYING, I THINK HE'S A STRONG
10:01:04 ENOUGH MAN TO UNDERSTAND THAT ALL THESE PLOTS AND ALL THIS
10:01:09 OTHER STUFF GOING ON AGAINST HIM MAY HURT AND SOUND BAD, BUT
10:01:12 FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, YOU AIN'T DONE NOTHING WRONG,
10:01:16 YOU AIN'T GOT TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
10:01:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME.
10:01:20 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:01:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU MUCH, CHAIRMAN.
10:01:23 ALTHOUGH THERE WAS NO REFERENCE MADE TO NAMES OF THE COUNCIL
10:01:25 MEMBERS, BUT I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND I'M SURE ALL
10:01:28 THE OTHER FIVE OR SIX CAN SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
10:01:31 THIS COUNCIL HAS NEVER MET IN PRIVATE OR PUBLICLY TO DISCUSS
10:01:34 MR. GUDES OR NOT TO DISCUSS MR. GUDES.
10:01:37 THERE'S NO BACKDOOR TALKING ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBERS GOING TO
10:01:39 ONE CHAMBER OR THE OTHER SAYING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
10:01:42 THE COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REMOVE ANYONE
10:01:44 FROM THIS COUNCIL.
10:01:45 SO LET ME GET THAT CLEARED OUT, PERFECTLY CLEAR RIGHT NOW.
10:01:50 >> THANK YOU.
10:01:51 >> THANK YOU, GOD BLESS.
10:01:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, MR. ADAMS, RUMORS ARE STARTED BY
10:01:55 PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
10:01:58 AND THE RUMORS THAT THIS COUNCILMAN WAS GOING TO ELECT TO
10:02:03 REMOVE ANYBODY IS JUST A RUMOR BY SOMEBODY WHO'S TALKING
10:02:07 ABOUT SOMETHING THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
10:02:10 THANK YOU, MR. ADAMS.
10:02:12 >> THANK YOU.
10:02:12 THAT'S WHY I CAME HERE, OUT OF RESPECT.
10:02:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:02:16 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:02:16 MY NAME IS KEILA McCASKLE, RESIDENT TAXPAYER IN THIS
10:02:22 DISTRICT.
10:02:22 I'LL READ BECAUSE I'M STILL TRYING TO PROCESS HOW THE
10:02:25 ADMINISTRATION GETS TO THE POINT THAT WE WOULD DEFAME THIS
10:02:29 COUNCILMAN'S CHARACTER AND TRY TO RUSH A SETTLEMENT FOR
10:02:32 $200,000 WITH NO RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE ETHICS COMMITTEE.
10:02:38 YOU KNOW HOW I KNOW?
10:02:39 I WENT THERE.
10:02:40 THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF INFORMATION ON THAT CASE, NO
10:02:43 RECOMMENDATION HAS NOT OFFERED AT THE LAST MEETING.
10:02:48 WITH ALL OF THAT, WHY WOULD THIS CASE -- I'M STILL
10:02:50 PROCESSING, STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY IS THERE SO MUCH
10:02:53 REFERENCE ON THE RELATIONSHIP PRIOR TO THE COUNCILMAN BEING
10:02:57 AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, AND REVIEWING THAT OVER AND OVER, I
10:03:01 COULDN'T FIND IT.
10:03:01 BUT I ALSO NOTICED THAT WHEN THE VICTIM WAS HIRED, WHY WOULD
10:03:05 YOU HIDE THAT YOU WERE FRIENDS OR AFFILIATES WITH THE
10:03:08 ELECTED OFFICIAL?
10:03:09 WHY WOULD YOU HIDE THAT?
10:03:11 WHAT INFORMATION IS BEHIND THAT?
10:03:12 YOU WERE HIGHLY RECOMMENDED BASED ON WHO YOU DATED, WHICH
10:03:16 WAS A FRIEND OF THE COUNCILMAN.
10:03:17 I'M SAYING THIS FROM WHAT I READ IN A REPORT FROM THE 300
10:03:20 PLUS PAGES.
10:03:21 SO THE VICTIM, AGAIN, LEAVING OUT SOME INFORMATION, I DON'T
10:03:24 KNOW WHY, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING THERE.
10:03:26 I'M SURE IT WILL COME OUT.
10:03:27 HAVE WE GONE TO TRIAL?
10:03:29 LET THIS GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN SWORN
10:03:32 TESTIMONY.
10:03:33 PEOPLE WOULDN'T LIE UNDER OATH, HOPEFULLY.
10:03:34 THERE WILL BE EVIDENCE.
10:03:35 THERE WILL BE PICTURES.
10:03:36 I SUBMIT TO YOU YOU'LL FIND THAT THE ALLEGED VICTIM AND HER
10:03:40 CHILD SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT THE COUNCILMAN'S HOME.
10:03:43 THEY WERE UNCOMFORTABLE SWIMMING IN THE POOL.
10:03:47 UNCOMFORTABLE BUT YOU HALLOWEEN AND TRICKER TREATING AT THIS
10:03:50 MAN'S HOME.
10:03:51 WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS HOW WE GET TO THE POINT THAT WE
10:03:54 SPEND TAXPAYERS' DOLLARS ON A FRIVOLOUS HE SAID/SHE SAID
10:03:58 TYPE OF CASE IN THIS CLIMATE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
10:04:00 WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CRISIS.
10:04:02 IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND $200,000, SPEND IT ON SOMETHING
10:04:05 LEGITIMATE.
10:04:05 IF YOU SPEND $200,000, SPEND IT ON THE REQUESTS THAT HAVE
10:04:11 COME FROM THE COMMUNITY.
10:04:12 HOW DARE TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON SOMETHING, A FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT,
10:04:17 AND THEY DO IT IN SECRET.
10:04:19 NO RECOMMENDATION FROM ANYONE AS NORMAL PROCESS.
10:04:21 I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, AND THEN THE MAYOR WEAPONIZED OR
10:04:25 THE ADMINISTRATION WEAPONIZED SEXUAL HARASSMENT, WHICH IS
10:04:28 WHY REAL VICTIMS DON'T COME FORWARD, BECAUSE ALL THE
10:04:32 NONSENSE THAT COMES BEFORE A REAL CASE.
10:04:34 SO UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE HERE.
10:04:35 NOW IT'S ALL IN THE MEDIA AND YOU'RE DEFAMING THIS MAN'S
10:04:39 CHARACTER.
10:04:39 I WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE TO THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE
10:04:41 TO BE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS POTENTIALLY WHEN WE REELECT OTHER
10:04:46 PEOPLE TO FILL YOUR SEATS.
10:04:47 YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE THE MAYOR'S LAP DOG TO AVOID LAWSUITS.
10:04:50 YOU DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW HER COMMANDS TO AVOID LAWSUITS.
10:04:54 YOU CAN REPRESENT THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED YOU IN.
10:04:57 THAT'S YOUR ASSIGNMENT.
10:04:57 AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO THE SAME WHEN THAT FRIVOLOUS
10:05:01 LAWSUITS COME FORWARD.
10:05:01 COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE
10:05:03 DONE IN THIS DISTRICT.
10:05:04 YOU'VE DONE SO MUCH, CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY OF WHAT HAPPENS
10:05:07 IN EAST TAMPA.
10:05:08 WE'VE NOT SEEN THAT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP BEFORE.
10:05:10 YOU KEEP STAYING THE COURSE, PUTTING ONE FOOT IN FRONT OF
10:05:13 THE OTHER ONE, AND THE GOD THAT PUT YOU IN THAT POSITION,
10:05:15 WHO STARTED THE GOOD WORK, HE'S FAITHFUL TO COMPLETE IT.
10:05:19 THERE'S MORE FOR YOU THAN AGAINST YOU.
10:05:20 THANK YOU.
10:05:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:05:25 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:05:25 [NOT SPEAKING INTO A MICROPHONE]
10:05:37 ITEM NUMBER 28 ON YOUR AGENDA IS VERY INTERESTING AND
10:05:40 CONNECTED TO ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.
10:05:42 GOOD MORNING.
10:05:42 MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:05:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. POYNOR, IF I MAY, YOU'RE ALSO REGISTERED
10:05:47 TO SPEAK ONLINE.
10:05:48 DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE YOU OFF OF THAT?
10:05:50 >> I PREFER TO REGISTER TO SPEAK ONLINE.
10:05:52 IF I CAN'T MAKE IT, THEN I ALWAYS DO THAT.
10:05:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL TAKE YOU OFF THAT LIST.
10:05:57 >> I FELT LIKE AFTER REVIEWING THE MEDIA PRESENTATIONS LAST
10:06:00 NIGHT, AND I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT LAST THURSDAY NIGHT BY
10:06:04 ACCIDENT, CARROLL ANN AND I GOT UP HERE AND TESTIFIED AND
10:06:07 HAD NOT BEEN SWORN IN.
10:06:09 THERE WERE SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WHO WOULD LIKED TO
10:06:12 HAVE HAD A BLUE BABY ABOUT IT.
10:06:14 AND IT WAS REALLY SWEET AND IT WAS ACCIDENTAL.
10:06:17 BUT I REMIND YOU THAT NONE OF THE EVIDENCE AGAINST
10:06:20 COUNCILMAN GUDES IS UNDER OATH.
10:06:22 BUT YET WE SPOKE FOR THREE MINUTES ABOUT SOMETHING THAT
10:06:26 ULTIMATELY DOESN'T MATTER AND EVERYBODY FREAKED OUT ABOUT
10:06:29 IT.
10:06:29 I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO REMEMBER HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO BE
10:06:32 SWORN IN.
10:06:33 WE HAVE THE 14 POINT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
10:06:36 YOU GUYS ALREADY PASSED IT ON.
10:06:38 WE DISAGREE WITH SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S ON IT, BUT WE
10:06:41 ALREADY SPOKE WITH MS. TRAVIS ABOUT IT.
10:06:43 WE'LL SET UP A MEETING WITH HER AND MR. BENSON AND WE'LL
10:06:46 WORK ON IT.
10:06:47 THE BIG FISH TODAY IN MY OPINION IS ITEM NUMBER 28 ON THE
10:06:50 AGENDA.
10:06:50 PREAPPROVING LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO SPEND $100,000 WITH 26 LAW
10:06:56 FIRMS.
10:06:56 THAT'S $2.6 MILLION.
10:06:58 THAT'S $2 MILLION MORE THAN WE HAVE FOR THE SIDEWALK FUND.
10:07:02 I KEPT WONDERING, HOW DOES THE CITY GO AND SPEND $98,000
10:07:07 INVESTIGATING CITY COUNCILMAN GUDES WITHOUT BRINGING IT
10:07:10 BEFORE THE PEOPLE WHO HOLD THE POCKETBOOK?
10:07:13 WELL, HERE'S WHY.
10:07:14 NUMBER 28 TODAY.
10:07:15 WE JUST GIVE A BLANKET -- GO AHEAD AND SPEND A HUNDRED GRAND
10:07:19 WITH THESE PEOPLE.
10:07:20 WE CAN HIRE, WHAT IS IT, TEN FULL-TIME ATTORNEYS FOR THAT,
10:07:27 WHICH YOU GUYS DESPERATELY NEED AT LEAST ONE MORE FOR CITY
10:07:30 COUNCIL.
10:07:30 BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
10:07:31 HERE'S THE OTHER ISSUE.
10:07:34 THOSE FUNDS WERE SPENT WITHOUT CONSULTING THE ETHICS
10:07:37 COMMISSION.
10:07:37 HOW DO I KNOW THAT?
10:07:38 BECAUSE I WENT TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION MEETING ON THE
10:07:41 12th OF APRIL.
10:07:42 IN THAT MEETING, THE CHAIRPERSON, BRICKLEMYER SAID THEY HAD
10:07:48 NOT HAD AN ETHICS COMPLAINT IN FOUR YEARS.
10:07:50 WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, AND YOU HAVE RIGHT HERE AT THE TOP
10:07:53 OF THE PAPER I JUST GAVE YOU, IS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE
10:07:56 MAKEUP OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION.
10:07:57 THE ETHICS COMMISSION IS PROBABLY BY FAR THE LEAST BIAS
10:08:03 GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT THE CITIZENS IN THIS CITY.
10:08:06 WHY WOULD ADMINISTRATION NOT TAKE IT TO THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE
10:08:10 AND SAY IS THIS WORTH INVESTIGATING?
10:08:12 BECAUSE IF YOU READ THE ETHICS COMMISSION BYLAWS, IT SAYS
10:08:15 THAT THEY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD DECIDE WHETHER SOMETHING
10:08:18 GETS INVESTIGATED OR NOT.
10:08:19 NOT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, NOT CITY COUNCIL, BUT THE ETHICS
10:08:24 COMMISSION, AND YET THEY NEVER WENT THERE.
10:08:26 WHY DID THE ETHICS COMMISSION NEVER SEE THESE ITEMS THAT
10:08:32 WE'RE SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF OUR TAX
10:08:39 DOLLARS ON BECAUSE SOMEBODY GOT A WHIM AND AFAR CROSS-WISE.
10:08:45 PLEASE DENY THIS.
10:08:45 WHY DO THEY NEED 26 LAW FIRMS TO HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND
10:08:47 DOLLARS CARTE BLANCHE?
10:08:48 IT'S CRAP.
10:08:49 IT REALLY IS.
10:08:52 WHAT DID THEY SPEND IT ON LAST YEAR?
10:08:54 I DON'T KNOW.
10:08:54 THE ONLY THING I KNOW ABOUT THEM USING OUTSIDE LAW FIRMS FOR
10:08:57 IS COUNCILMAN GUDES' INVESTIGATION, WHICH WAS NOT UNDER
10:09:00 OATH, I'LL REMIND YOU.
10:09:02 I SUPPORT YOU, SIR.
10:09:04 I WOULDN'T WANT ANYBODY TELLING ANYBODY WHAT I SAY WHEN I'M
10:09:08 DRINKING EITHER.
10:09:13 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:09:15 WILLIAMS.
10:09:15 I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND A RESIDENT OF EAST TAMPA.
10:09:18 I DON'T GET INTO POLITICS.
10:09:22 I HAVE VERY LOW CONFIDENCE IN SCHOOL DISTRICT, ALL OF IT.
10:09:24 I JUST CAME TO ADVISE OF MY SUPPORT FOR COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:09:29 I'M 48 YEARS OLD.
10:09:31 I'VE PLAYED BASKETBALL IN HIGH SCHOOL, TEEN MOM.
10:09:35 WHAT I DO KNOW ABOUT THIS MAN IS THAT EVEN THOUGH I COULDN'T
10:09:39 PURSUE MY BASKETBALL IN COLLEGE BECAUSE I HAD A BABY, HE
10:09:43 SPONSORED OUR BASKETBALL TEAM IN EAST TAMPA WHEN I WAS 19
10:09:47 YEARS OLD.
10:09:47 I JUST NEED TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT HE'S NOT DOOMED
10:09:51 TO HIS WALK IN SUPPORTING EAST TAMPA.
10:09:54 HE'S BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME.
10:09:56 I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW I SUPPORT YOU.
10:09:58 I OWN SMALL PRIVATE SCHOOLS FOR SPECIAL NEEDS STUDENTS.
10:10:01 WHEN I HAVE A NEED, COUNCILMAN GUDES IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE
10:10:04 THAT CALLS AND SAYS, WHAT DO YOU NEED?
10:10:06 I NEED A WATER FOUNTAIN SO I CAN MEET THE CODES OF THE CITY,
10:10:09 AND HE MAKES SURE THAT THAT HAPPENED FOR MY STUDENTS.
10:10:13 SO I JUST WANT TO ADVISE THE COMMUNITY THAT HIS CHARACTER IS
10:10:18 UPSTANDING, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:10:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:10:27 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:10:28 ROBIN LOCKET.
10:10:30 FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY I NEED MORE TIME.
10:10:32 I HAVE A LOT TO SAY.
10:10:34 SO ITEM NUMBER E 2022-8, THE 60-DAY ITEM THAT YOU ALL ARE
10:10:45 GONNA REVIEW AND ADOPT POSSIBLY TODAY, I'M ASKING THAT IT BE
10:10:49 PUT BACK ON THE BACK BURNER FOR THURSDAY.
10:10:51 THERE'S A WORKSHOP BEING HELD.
10:10:54 EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR RENT STABILIZATION WITH DIFFERENT
10:10:57 IDEAS TO STABILIZE THE SYSTEM.
10:10:59 SO I HAVE MORE INFORMATION, AND I DROPPED THE BALL ON THIS.
10:11:03 SO I OWN THAT.
10:11:04 IN REGARDS TO YOUR -- YOUR COUNSEL SAID IT WAS NOT LEGAL FOR
10:11:10 THIS TO BE DONE.
10:11:11 SO I WANT TO PRESENT SOMETHING SAYING THAT IT IS.
10:11:15 I'M ASKING THAT YOU ALL DON'T -- YOU DON'T ADOPT IT TODAY.
10:11:19 YOU DON'T APPROVE IT TODAY, THAT IT IS PUSHED BACK WITH
10:11:21 EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WILL HAPPEN ON THURSDAY.
10:11:23 MS. BELL -- SO I BROUGHT SENIORS ON LAST THURSDAY.
10:11:33 PROTECTING SENIORS AND CHILDREN.
10:11:34 NOTHING ELSE SAID.
10:11:37 THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING, RIGHT?
10:11:39 LOOKING OUT FOR THEM AND PROTECTING THEM BY ANY MEANS
10:11:44 NECESSARY, MAKING THEIR LAST LIVES THE BEST THAT IT CAN BE,
10:11:48 RIGHT, WITH COMFORT, WITH ACTIVITY AND SO FORTH.
10:11:51 SO THAT'S THE SECOND THING.
10:11:54 ORLANDO GUDES, LOCATION, THERE'S NOT ONE TIME YOU CAN DRIVE
10:12:03 DOWN HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND NOT SEE ORLANDO'S CAR.
10:12:05 NOT ONE TIME I CAN POP UP TO HIS HOUSE AND HE NOT BE THERE.
10:12:11 LOCATION.
10:12:12 PEOPLE PLAY GAMES WITH THE RESIDENCIES OF LIVING IN A
10:12:15 DISTRICT.
10:12:16 SO MANY TIMES, AND I'M IN POLITICS, I'VE DEALT WITH
10:12:19 POLITICIANS FOR A LONG TIME, AND PLENTY OF TIMES THEY WILL
10:12:23 MOVE INTO A DISTRICT JUST TO RUN INTO IT.
10:12:26 BUT THERE'S NOT ONE TIME THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN OR BEEN ABLE
10:12:30 TO REACH ORLANDO AT THAT LOCATION.
10:12:31 DUE PROCESS, HE HAS NOT HAD DUE PROCESS.
10:12:35 WHAT'S OFFENDING TO ME, HE'S A BLACK MAN.
10:12:39 I GOT TWO BLACK KIDS.
10:12:41 TWO BLACK SONS TO BE EXACT.
10:12:43 AGAIN, I PUT FORTH THIS.
10:12:48 IT'S NOT ABOUT THE WOMAN.
10:12:50 I'M PROTECTING MY KIDS, AND I WANT THEM TO HAVE DUE PROCESS,
10:12:55 TO BE ABLE TO TELL THEIR STORY, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEIR
10:12:59 PROOF.
10:12:59 WITNESS STATEMENTS, I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THAT FOR A LONG
10:13:05 TIME.
10:13:05 WE NEED WITNESS STATEMENTS, RIGHT?
10:13:11 HAVEN'T GOTTEN THEM.
10:13:12 THEY HAVEN'T BEEN REDACTED AND PROVIDED.
10:13:16 TRANSPARENCY.
10:13:18 NO TRANSPARENCY.
10:13:19 YOU KNOW, JUST QUICK, WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS CITY COUNCIL
10:13:23 COME UP, I WAS SO IMPRESSED.
10:13:25 YOU ALL WERE BRAVE.
10:13:27 YOU ALL WERE MAKING CHANGES, AND NOW BECAUSE OF FEAR, THAT'S
10:13:33 SCARING YOU GUYS.
10:13:34 YOU ALL WERE REALLY WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE.
10:13:39 THANK YOU.
10:13:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. LOCKET.
10:13:45 >> METESNOT.
10:13:47 ONE THING I CAN SAY, THE JOHNNY DEPP CASE GIVE YOU A GOOD
10:13:51 EXAMPLE OF IT.
10:13:52 WHEN PEOPLE MAKE ACCUSATIONS OR WHEN PEOPLE ARE A VICTIM OF,
10:13:55 LIKE IF YOU WASN'T IN THE ROOM WITH THEM, YOU DON'T KNOW
10:13:59 WHAT HAPPENED.
10:13:59 LET'S SAY FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED, I'M HAPPY THE SISTER
10:14:02 GOT 200,000 BECAUSE WE DON'T GET NOTHING FROM THIS CITY.
10:14:06 I'M HAPPY BROTHER ORLANDO IS DOING HIS THING AND HE STOOD UP
10:14:08 AND HE STOOD UP AND HE DIDN'T RESIGN LIKE THE OTHER PERSON
10:14:11 BEFORE HIM WHO THEY WERE TRYING TO FORCE OUT.
10:14:13 SO WE HAVE VICTORY BOTH WAYS.
10:14:15 THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT IN MY EYES.
10:14:17 BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, WHEN YOU'VE BEEN VICTIMIZED
10:14:20 YOU SEE AND FEEL LIFE DIFFERENTLY.
10:14:23 WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN VIOLENTLY RAPED, YOU VIEW SEXUAL
10:14:26 RELATIONSHIPS DIFFERENTLY.
10:14:26 WHEN A VICTIM OF CHILD MOLESTATION OR CHILD ABUSE, YOUR
10:14:29 ADULTHOOD CONFIDENCE IS DIMINISHED.
10:14:32 WHEN YOU POSSESS BLACK SKIN, WHEN YOU POSSESS BLACK SKIN,
10:14:37 YOU EXPERIENCE A LIFE OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION.
10:14:39 YOUR MENTAL RECEPTORS ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO BOTH SMALL AND
10:14:42 BIG SIGNS OF RACIAL INSENSITIVITY.
10:14:45 THERE ARE TWO DRAWINGS RIGHT DOWN HERE IN THIS CITY COUNCIL
10:14:48 BUILDING THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL NEED TO LOOK AT.
10:14:51 THEY ARE OFFENSIVE.
10:14:51 AS YOU WALK UP THE STEPS, TO BLACK PEOPLE THEY ARE
10:14:54 OFFENSIVE.
10:14:55 IT'S NOT REFLECTIVE OF THIS CITY, BUT IT IS REFLECTIVE OF
10:14:58 THE CITY POLICIES, SO THOSE SIGNS NEED TO BE REMOVED.
10:15:01 THOSE TWO PAINTINGS RIGHT THERE ON THAT STEP NEED TO BE
10:15:03 REMOVED.
10:15:04 OKAY?
10:15:04 AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE DISRESPECTED INTERNATIONALLY.
10:15:08 THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE FOR THE PAST 622 YEARS.
10:15:12 IN 2022, THE MOST CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, AN
10:15:15 18-YEAR-OLD WHITE MAN IN BUFFALO, NEW YORK, SURROUNDED BY
10:15:18 OPPORTUNITIES AND LUXURIES CAN FIXATE HIS IMAGINATION ON
10:15:23 IDENTIFYING, LOCATING AND VIOLENTLY EXTERMINATING AFRICAN
10:15:28 PEOPLE.
10:15:29 WE SAW THE SCENARIO REPEAT ITSELF IN SOUTH CAROLINA WITH
10:15:32 DYLAN RUTH.
10:15:33 ONE WOULD THINK THAT IT IS THE EXEMPLIFICATION OF RACIAL
10:15:37 HATRED.
10:15:37 BUT IN REALITY, THAT IS THE BOTTOM END OF RACIAL HATRED.
10:15:40 THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CARRYING OUT RACIAL
10:15:42 HATRED ARE DOING SO THROUGH OFFICIAL POLICIES, LAWS,
10:15:45 LEGISLATION, AND PROGRAMS.
10:15:46 THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE FOREFRONT OF COMMITTING
10:15:48 GENOCIDE AGAINST AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE THE ONES SITTING IN
10:15:51 GOVERNMENT OFFICES AND PRIVATE CORPORATE BOARD ROOMS.
10:15:54 THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE FOREFRONT OF ELIMINATING THE
10:15:57 AFRICANS OFF THE PLANET EARTH ARE THE WHITE POLICY MAKERS
10:15:59 THAT MAKE LAWS THAT DISPROPORTIONATELY INCARCERATE AFRICANS
10:16:02 FOR VICTIMLESS CRIMES, FORCEFULLY DISPOSSESS AFRICAN PEOPLE
10:16:06 OF OUR PROPERTY, OUR CARS, OUR BICYCLES, OUR LAND, OUR
10:16:09 HOMES, OUR APARTMENTS, OUR PLACES OF RESIDENCY THROUGH
10:16:13 GENTRIFICATION, OUR HISTORY THROUGH SLAVERY, OUR FUTURE
10:16:16 THROUGH LIFE OF REPARATIONS AND OUR HUMANITY THROUGH THE
10:16:19 PROGRAMS THAT ARE RACIALLY MOTIVATED AND RACIALLY OFFENSIVE.
10:16:22 THE PEOPLE THAT SMILE IN OUR FACES EACH AND EVERY DAY ARE
10:16:25 THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR DISPOSSESSING US OF
10:16:30 EVERYTHING THAT THE UNITED NATIONS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS
10:16:33 IDENTIFY AS STANDARD LIFE NECESSITIES.
10:16:33 THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS AN ELOQUENT WAY OF DECEIVING AFRICAN
10:16:37 PEOPLE.
10:16:37 OUR CONCERNS AND OUR REALITY ARE NEVER ATTENDED TO.
10:16:40 WE AFRICAN PEOPLE IN THIS CITY HAVE BEEN MOVING BACKWARDS
10:16:42 SINCE THE FORMATION OF THE CITY.
10:16:43 THE WHITE ELECTED OFFICIALS SITTING RIGHT HERE ON THIS CITY
10:16:46 COUNCIL HAVE TO BEAR SOME OF THE BLAME AND RESPONSIBILITY
10:16:48 FOR THE RACIAL DISPARITIES THAT EXISTS IN THIS CITY.
10:16:51 IT IS TIME THIS CITY GOVERNMENT TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT CITY
10:16:55 REPARATIONS FOR ITS BLACK RESIDENTS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
10:16:58 RELEASING ALL BLACK CITIZENS FROM CRIMINAL CHARGES THAT ARE
10:17:01 CONNECTED TO VICTIMLESS DRUG OFFENSES.
10:17:04 FIXING CHILD SUPPORT DISCREPANCY THAT ADVERSELY --
10:17:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. DANIELS.
10:17:09 >> AND REMOVING ALL CHARGES OFF THE RECORDS OF PEOPLE
10:17:12 CHARGED WITH VICTIMLESS CRIMES.
10:17:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. DANIELS.
10:17:15 IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS IN THIS CHAMBER?
10:17:24 THANK YOU.
10:17:28 WE WILL NOW GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS ONLINE.
10:17:31 MS. CARROLL ANN BENNETT, ARE YOU THERE?
10:17:35 >> HI.
10:17:40 MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
10:17:41 I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
10:17:44 IN 2019, THE PEOPLE OF SOG FOUND THEIR VOICES AND BEGAN TO
10:17:47 ROAR.
10:17:48 THEY WERE DEEPLY UPSET ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE BEING
10:17:51 DONE TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:17:52 THE MAYOR RESPONDED BY HAVING A MEETING WITH ALL OF THE
10:17:55 COMMUNITY LEADERS AND THE MEMBERS OF MANY DEPARTMENTS ON
10:17:58 MARCH 26th, 2021.
10:18:00 THE COMMUNITY PRESENTED A LIST OF 14 ITEMS OF CONCERN
10:18:03 PRINTED ON RED PAPER.
10:18:06 AN ACTION PLAN WAS DEVELOPED FROM THAT LIST, AND WE WERE
10:18:08 PROMISED FOLLOW-UP MEETINGS TO DISCUSS THE PROGRESS OR LACK
10:18:11 OF PROGRESS.
10:18:13 THINGS WENT AS PROMISED, AND PRODUCTIVE FOLLOW-UP MEETINGS
10:18:16 WERE HELD.
10:18:16 THAT CHANGED LAST FALL.
10:18:17 FOR SOME REASON, IT WAS DECIDED THAT THE CITY NO LONGER HAD
10:18:20 TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS;
10:18:23 THEY ONLY HAD TO TALK TO CITY COUNCIL.
10:18:25 THEY PRODUCED A WRITTEN UPDATE FOR CITY COUNCIL THAT WAS NOT
10:18:29 DISCUSSED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND NOT EVEN SENT TO THE
10:18:31 COMMUNITY.
10:18:31 WE FOUND OUT A FEW DAYS AGO THAT ANOTHER SUCH REPORT WAS
10:18:34 WRITTEN FOR CITY COUNCIL BY PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT INFORMED OF
10:18:36 THE HISTORY AND DID NOT KNOW THAT UPDATE MEETINGS WITH
10:18:40 COMMUNITY LEADERS WERE PROMISED.
10:18:41 NICOLE TRAVIS RESPONDED IMMEDIATELY AND IS IN THE PROCESS OF
10:18:46 SCHEDULING A MEETING WITH THE RELEVANT DEPARTMENTS, AND WE
10:18:48 APPRECIATE HER PROMPT ATTENTION TO DIRECTING THIS
10:18:51 BEWILDERING EXCLUSION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN DISCUSSIONS
10:18:55 ABOUT PROBLEMS THE NEIGHBORHOODS BROUGHT TO THE CITY'S
10:18:58 ATTENTION.
10:18:58 IN THE MEANTIME, WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE DISAGREE WITH
10:19:01 AND HAVE SIGNIFICANT FEEDBACK ON ITEMS 3, 4, 5, 12, AND 14
10:19:07 IN THE UPDATE YOU WERE GIVEN FOR TODAY.
10:19:09 AND THOSE ITEMS WILL BE CHANGING AFTER OUR MEETING.
10:19:11 I ALSO WANT TO COMMENT ON ITEM 28.
10:19:14 I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS AT ALL.
10:19:16 I DO NOT LIKE THIS APPARENT CARTE BLANCHE TO SPEND HUNDREDS
10:19:19 OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON 26 DIFFERENT HIGH-PRICED LAW
10:19:22 FIRMS.
10:19:23 I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY'S ETHICS COMMISSION WAS NOT
10:19:27 ASKED TO INVESTIGATE ALLEGATIONS BEFORE $98,000 WAS SPENT ON
10:19:30 AN EXPENSIVE LAW FIRM.
10:19:32 HALF OF THE ENTIRE SIDEWALK FUND HAS BEEN SPENT ON A MATTER
10:19:36 THAT DID NOT GO BEFORE THE ETHICS COMMITTEE BEFORE ANY TAX
10:19:40 DOLLARS WERE SPENT AND DID NOT INVOLVE A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE
10:19:42 CITY.
10:19:43 INSTEAD OF PRE-APPROVAL TO SPEND WHAT ADDS UP TO LIKE
10:19:45 $2.6 MILLION A YEAR ON WHITE-SHOE FIRMS, I'D LIKE THE CITY
10:19:50 TO PROTECT OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:19:51 MOST COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE FORCED TO MAKE THE SACRIFICE OF
10:19:54 WORKING TWO FULL-TIME JOBS TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
10:19:57 GOOD, COURAGEOUS, INDEPENDENT PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO STEP
10:20:01 UP IF THEY FEAR FINANCIAL RUIN BECAUSE OF LAWSUITS FOR DOING
10:20:05 THEIR JOB.
10:20:05 IF THE ONLY WAY TO AVOID STRATEGIC LAWSUITS WHOSE PURPOSE IS
10:20:09 TO REMOVE OBSTACLES IN THE PATH OF THE RICH AND THE
10:20:12 POWERFUL, IS TO BE A MOUTHPIECE FOR THE RICH AND THE
10:20:14 POWERFUL, THE CITY WILL SUFFER, THE CITIZENS WILL SUFFER,
10:20:18 AND TAMPA WILL NO LONGER HAVE A DEMOCRACY THAT REPRESENTS
10:20:20 THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT RICH AND POWERFUL.
10:20:23 I AGREE WITH THE WOMAN WHO JUST SPOKE IN PERSON.
10:20:25 I WAS SO HAPPY WITH THE NEW CITY COUNCIL WHEN I SAW THE
10:20:29 COURAGE AND GOOD WORK.
10:20:30 THAT SHOULD NOT RESULT IN FEAR.
10:20:32 THANK YOU.
10:20:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:20:36 MS. STROHMEYER, ARE YOU THERE?
10:20:40 >> YES.
10:20:40 HELLO?
10:20:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
10:20:43 >> HELLO.
10:20:44 MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER, AND I ECHO WHAT STEPHANIE AND
10:20:50 CARROLL ANN SAID ABOUT THE LIST OF 14.
10:20:54 I'M IN SOG FOR 30 YEARS.
10:20:55 I'VE BEEN IN TAMPA SINCE 1970.
10:20:57 I ALSO ECHO THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPEAKS ABOUT THE DINGFELDER
10:21:02 MATTER AND HOW THAT WENT DOWN AND MR. GUDES, SUPPORT TO MR.
10:21:06 GUDES.
10:21:06 HE'S A COP.
10:21:07 HE'S NOT A POLITICIAN LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION IS.
10:21:09 SO JUST REMEMBER THAT.
10:21:13 HE'S HERE TO HELP US OUT.
10:21:16 I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE ITEMS REAL QUICKLY.
10:21:18 ITEM 8 ON SINGLE DISTRICTING.
10:21:19 I MET WITH SOME OF THEM FOLKS.
10:21:21 AND ACTUALLY ONE OF THE GUYS THAT I MET WITH -- I'M NOT
10:21:23 GOING TO CALL HIS NAME OUT -- HE DID NOT KNOW THAT WE IN THE
10:21:26 UNITED STATES, WE'RE A REPUBLIC, NOT A DEMOCRACY.
10:21:30 HE SAID WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
10:21:31 SO WE NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT TO PEOPLE.
10:21:33 NUMBER 9, SIDEWALK CAFES.
10:21:35 I LOVE IT.
10:21:35 I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT.
10:21:36 IT'S NICE TO GO BIKE RIDING OR WALKING AND BE ABLE TO STOP
10:21:39 AND HAVE A COLD DRINK OR SOMETHING.
10:21:42 NUMBER 11, 12, YOU WANT MORE MONEY FOR HIGH DRUG-TRAFFIC
10:21:47 AREAS.
10:21:48 DROP THE DRUG DISPENSARY.
10:21:50 STOP APPROVING A DRUG DISPENSARY ON EVERY CORNER.
10:21:54 THEY ARE EVERYWHERE.
10:21:55 WHAT'S GOING TO PROMOTE DRUGS?
10:21:56 DRUG DISPENSARIES.
10:21:59 I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU CALL IT.
10:21:59 IT IS WHAT IT IS.
10:22:00 IT'S A DRUG DISPENSARY.
10:22:01 WE SPENT MORE MONEY ON COPS YET CRIME HAS RISEN.
10:22:04 SO DON'T SPEND ANY MORE MONEY ON RIDICULOUSNESS.
10:22:08 NUMBER 15, A LOT OF SOD AND GRASS.
10:22:12 THAT STOPS AT SOG.
10:22:12 WHY DOES IT STOP SOUTH OF GANDY?
10:22:14 WE DON'T GET ANY GRASS.
10:22:14 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL GETTING THAT MUCH -- THE LAWYERS FOR THE
10:22:17 CITY AND I UNDERSTAND IT TO BE THAT THERE'S -- THE TOTAL
10:22:21 COMBINED LAWYERS GET A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR THE YEAR, BUT
10:22:24 I'M NOT SURE, MAYBE I READ IT WRONG, SO JUST -- THAT'S JUST
10:22:28 A LOT OF MONEY THAT WE COULD FILL SOME POTHOLES WITH.
10:22:31 NUMBER 31 -- WE GOT THAT GRANT BUT WE'RE PAYING FOR PINELLAS
10:22:35 COUNTY.
10:22:36 NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS.
10:22:38 37, WESTSHORE EXTENSION, NOT SURE WHERE THAT IS BECAUSE I
10:22:43 DIDN'T GET TO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE CLOSER.
10:22:45 NUMBER 39, IMPROVEMENT FUND.
10:22:47 WHAT ABOUT SOUTH HIMES?
10:22:49 WHAT ABOUT BAY AVENUE AND SOUTH OF GANDY?
10:22:51 HOW COME WE DON'T GET AN IMPROVEMENT FUND?
10:22:54 INTERBAY, $400,000 CLEANING FOR LANDSCAPING.
10:22:58 WHAT ABOUT SOUTH OF GANDY?
10:22:59 DO WE GET ANY LANDSCAPING OR CLEANING?
10:23:01 IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE DO, BUT THEY GET $400,000.
10:23:05 THE LANDLORD, HAVING A LANDLORD HAVE TO GIVE 60 DAYS TO
10:23:10 INCREASE RENT, BUT THAT'S IN BETWEEN A LEASE.
10:23:12 YOU CAN'T INCREASE RENT.
10:23:14 SO YOU'LL HAVE PEOPLE BASICALLY DROPPING LEASES SO THEY CAN
10:23:17 GET SOMEBODY ELSE IN.
10:23:18 I DON'T KNOW.
10:23:19 I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
10:23:21 NUMBER 66, APPRENTICESHIP.
10:23:24 I LIKE APPRENTICESHIP, BUT IF THERE'S NOBODY TO FILL THE JOB
10:23:28 THERE AND THE EXTENSION OF CONTRACTORS, THEN SOMEBODY IS
10:23:31 GOING TO GET PUNISHED.
10:23:32 I THINK YOU ALL NEED TO LOOK INTO UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
10:23:35 WITH THAT AS WELL.
10:23:36 NUMBER 7, REDUCE PERMITTING, THAT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT IT
10:23:41 FAVORS THE DEVELOPERS.
10:23:43 THEY ALREADY GET WHAT THEY WANT WHEN THEY WANT IT WITH THIS
10:23:45 CITY.
10:23:46 AND THEY ALSO GET TO UNSEAT CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE AT THEIR
10:23:49 WILL.
10:23:49 GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
10:23:50 I LOVE YOU GUYS.
10:23:51 HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:23:52 I PRAY FOR YOU EVERY DAY.
10:23:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. STROHMEYER.
10:23:55 IS THAT ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:23:58 THANK YOU.
10:23:59 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:24:05 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST IN REACTION TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND
10:24:08 OTHER COMMENTS WE'VE BEEN GETTING, FIRST -- AND THIS IS IN
10:24:11 REGARD TO THE SITUATION WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
10:24:16 IF THE CLAIMANT IS -- DESERVES DUE PROCESS.
10:24:21 IF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT THE CLAIMANT HAS MADE ARE TRUE, THEN
10:24:25 THE CLAIMANT DESERVES TO GET ANY KIND OF COMPENSATION OR
10:24:30 OTHER AWARD FOR THAT.
10:24:35 HOWEVER, THE ACCUSED, ORLANDO GUDES, ALSO DESERVES DUE
10:24:39 PROCESS.
10:24:41 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT HE WAS GIVEN DUE PROCESS BY THE CITY.
10:24:45 I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY OR AN INVESTIGATOR, BUT THERE WERE LOTS
10:24:50 OF COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE JUST NOW.
10:24:52 THE MAYOR IS SENDING AN APOLOGY LETTER WHEN THERE HAS NOT
10:24:55 BEEN A TRIAL AND HAS NOT BEEN A LAWSUIT.
10:24:58 IT'S PRETTY DESPICABLE THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
10:25:01 JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS ABOUT IT BASED ON INTERVIEWS BY A LAW
10:25:06 FIRM THAT WAS PAID BY A POLITICAL APPOINTEE IN THE LEGAL
10:25:09 DEPARTMENT IS NOT DUE PROCESS.
10:25:11 AGAIN, IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THESE ACCUSATIONS ARE TRUE, THE
10:25:14 CLAIMANT DESERVES ALL OF THIS.
10:25:17 BUT WHAT REALLY BOTHERS ME, THE PRIVATE SECTOR WILL DO WHAT
10:25:21 THE PRIVATE SECTOR WILL DO.
10:25:23 WHAT BOTHERS ME, THE USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, HUNDRED
10:25:26 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO A LAW FIRM, BUT TO PAY AND USE CITY
10:25:30 STAFF I BELIEVE INAPPROPRIATELY TO ATTACK CITY COUNCIL
10:25:33 MEMBERS.
10:25:34 WE SAW THAT IN THE DINGFELDER SITUATION.
10:25:37 THE CITY STAFF WERE COMPLICIT.
10:25:40 IT'S BEEN PROVEN THROUGH PUBLIC RECORD THAT THE CITY STAFF
10:25:42 WERE COMPLICIT, INVOLVED IN IT.
10:25:47 IF CITY STAFF OR THE MAYOR WANTS TO PLAY DIRTY POLITICS DO
10:25:52 IT OUTSIDE OF CITY HOURS.
10:25:53 DON'T DO IT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
10:25:55 DON'T CALL REPORTERS AND LEAK INFORMATION AND LEAK
10:25:58 DOCUMENTS.
10:25:58 HOW DO WE KNOW THIS WITH ORLANDO GUDES?
10:26:01 WHEN THE NEWS WAS FIRST RELEASED ABOUT HIM, IT WAS SENT IN A
10:26:05 PRESS RELEASE BY THE ADMINISTRATION JUST BEFORE THE TV
10:26:09 CAMERAS, SO MR. GUDES DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND.
10:26:12 HIS ATTORNEY DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND, AND NONE OF US
10:26:15 EVEN KNEW WHAT IT WAS.
10:26:17 I THINK I GOT A LITTLE BRIEFING ABOUT AN HOUR BEFORE.
10:26:21 SO IT HIT THE NEWS WITHOUT ANY CHANCE TO RESPOND.
10:26:23 THAT'S NOT DUE PROCESS.
10:26:25 THAT'S A POLITICAL PUBLICITY STUNT.
10:26:29 THEN INFORMATION WAS RELEASED EVERY DAY FOR SEVEN DAYS.
10:26:32 WHY IS IT THAT MOST MEDIA OUTLETS, THE TIMES AND OTHERS IT
10:26:35 TAKES 60 DAYS TO GET A RESPONSE TO A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.
10:26:38 SOMEHOW ON WEDNESDAY OF THAT WEEK, THE PRESS RELEASE WENT ON
10:26:41 MONDAY, ON WEDNESDAY, ALL THE MEDIA HAD A COPY OF THE BILL
10:26:46 THAT SAID IT WAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
10:26:49 HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?
10:26:49 WE WERE BEING TRANSPARENT, THAT'S WHAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
10:26:52 SAYS.
10:26:52 NO, IT'S NOT.
10:26:53 EVERYTHING ELSE TAKES 60 DAYS.
10:26:54 ANY PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST REGARDING THE MAYOR TAKES 60
10:26:58 DAYS, BUT SOMEHOW YOU ALL HAD THE FILES TO GO ONE DAY AFTER
10:27:01 ANOTHER.
10:27:01 SO YOU GET SEVEN REPEATED DAYS OF STORIES ABOUT ORLANDO
10:27:04 GUDES.
10:27:04 THAT'S NOT DUE PROCESS.
10:27:06 AND WORSE, THE CLAIMANT WAS EMBARRASSED.
10:27:09 I HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE CLAIMANT BUT WE WERE ALL FRIENDS
10:27:12 WITH THE CLAIMANT BEFORE THE TRANSFER, AND IN THE PRESS
10:27:15 RELEASE, THERE WAS IDENTIFYING INFORMATION ABOUT THE
10:27:17 CLAIMANT.
10:27:18 ON THE COVER IT SAYS IT IS A MISDEMEANOR TO MENTION THE
10:27:20 NAME.
10:27:21 WHY IS IT NOT A MISDEMEANOR TO MENTION THE GENDER AND TITLE
10:27:24 BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNEW WHO THE PERSON WAS?
10:27:26 IF THE MAYOR IS WORRIED ABOUT HOW THE CLAIMANT FEELS, WHY
10:27:29 WOULD THE MAYOR ALLOW A PRESS RELEASE SENT OUT THAT
10:27:32 IDENTIFIES WHO THE PERSON WAS?
10:27:33 THAT IS DESPICABLE.
10:27:35 YOU DON'T DO THAT TO SOMEBODY.
10:27:36 YOU'RE USING A SITUATION THAT SOMEONE HAS ALLEGEDLY BEEN A
10:27:41 VICTIM AND USING IT FOR DIRTY POLITICAL PURPOSES.
10:27:43 IT'S REALLY GROSS AND SEVEN DAYS OF STORIES.
10:27:45 AND THEN, GUESS WHAT, GUESS WHO THE FIRST PERSON IS THAT
10:27:48 TWEETS ALL THESE NEGATIVE STORIES?
10:27:49 THE NIGHT THAT JOHN DINGFELDER, THE STORY CAME OUT ABOUT
10:27:54 10:00 THAT HE HAD RESIGNED.
10:27:56 GUESS WHO THE FIRST PERSON WAS TO TWEET THAT STORY FIVE
10:27:59 MINUTES LATER?
10:28:00 THIS PERSON MOST LIKELY WAS SITTING AT HOME IN HIS UNDERWEAR
10:28:03 WITH NOTHING TO DO ON A FRIDAY NIGHT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE
10:28:07 ANY FRIENDS AND --
10:28:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, COULD YOU PLEASE WRAP
10:28:10 THIS UP?
10:28:11 >>BILL CARLSON: IT WAS BOB BUCKHORN.
10:28:13 HE IS THE ONE THAT TWEETED OUT.
10:28:14 EVERY ONE OF THESE STORIES.
10:28:14 LAST NIGHT HE TWEETED STORIES OUT ABOUT ORLANDO GUDES.
10:28:17 WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO DO WITH THIS?
10:28:17 HE IS A LOBBYIST.
10:28:19 DOES HE HAVE CLIENTS RELATED TO THIS?
10:28:21 THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW.
10:28:22 THE MAYOR SAYS WE NEED TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:28:25 LET'S BRING IT IN.
10:28:26 DURING THIS WHOLE TIME, THE MAYOR GOT A LETTER FROM THE
10:28:28 UNITED STATES JUSTICE DEPARTMENT --
10:28:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WRAP THIS UP.
10:28:32 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK I HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
10:28:34 THE MAYOR GOT A LETTER FROM THE UNITED STATES JUSTICE
10:28:36 DEPARTMENT AND DIDN'T TELL US.
10:28:38 THE LETTER CAME IN IN DECEMBER AND DID NOT TELL US.
10:28:40 THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED IN
10:28:42 THIS CITY, AND WE'RE SPENDING TIME TALKING ABOUT ONE CITY
10:28:44 COUNCIL MEMBER WHO IS MISSING A FEW TEXT MESSAGES AND HAD TO
10:28:46 RESIGN BECAUSE OF IT.
10:28:48 WHERE IS THE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY?
10:28:49 WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS
10:28:53 NOT MISUSING PUBLIC DOLLARS AND PUBLIC STAFF FOR POLITICAL
10:28:57 PURPOSES AND FOR DIRTY POLITICAL PURPOSES.
10:28:59 IF THE CLAIMANT REALLY EXPERIENCED THESE THINGS, THE
10:29:03 CLAIMANT DESERVES WHATEVER THE CLAIMANT DESERVES.
10:29:05 BUT THE CITY -- THE MAYOR AND THE CITY STAFF CANNOT BE
10:29:08 MISUSED TO ATTACK CITY COUNCIL FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES.
10:29:11 IF THEY CONTINUE, I'M GOING TO PROPOSE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
10:29:14 USE THEIR INVESTIGATIVE AUTHORITY TO FIND OUT WHO IS DOING
10:29:17 IT AND WHY AND WHO ORDERED IT.
10:29:19 IT TOOK US SEVERAL MONTHS JUST TO FIND OUT WHO MADE THE
10:29:21 DECISION TO NOT PUT HANNA AVENUE OUT FOR BID.
10:29:24 GUESS WHO MADE IT.
10:29:25 THE MAYOR.
10:29:25 THANK YOU.
10:29:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:29:28 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:29:28 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAVE MADE A LOT OF STATEMENTS.
10:29:31 ARE YOU WILLING TO TAKE THOSE TO THE DOJ?
10:29:35 DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM TO THE FDLE?
10:29:39 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M VERY HAPPY TO.
10:29:40 UNFORTUNATELY, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WON'T TALK TO
10:29:43 ELECTED OFFICIALS BUT THEY'LL TALK TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
10:29:45 BELIEVE ME, I'VE TRIED.
10:29:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:29:47 YOU SEEM VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, AND YOUR ZEAL IS
10:29:53 STRONG.
10:29:54 PLEASE PRESENT THAT TO THE FDOJ AND TO THE FDLE AND MAYBE
10:30:00 SOME OTHER LEGAL BUSINESS.
10:30:02 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, I WILL.
10:30:04 I HAVE AND I WILL.
10:30:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:30:05 LET'S GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER 64.
10:30:16 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:30:17 BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:30:21 I'M HERE TO ADDRESS ITEM 64, WHICH IS PURCHASE OF LIQUID
10:30:28 METHANOL FOR THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT FOR USE IN THEIR
10:30:32 TREATMENT PROCESS.
10:30:35 I'VE WRITTEN A MEMO ON IT, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY
10:30:38 QUESTIONS.
10:30:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:30:40 ANY COMMENTS?
10:30:41 THIS IS FOR A TWO-YEAR CONTRACT?
10:30:46 >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS IS FOR AN ADDITIONAL ONE-YEAR PERIOD.
10:30:52 THE EXISTING CONTRACT WAS A ONE-YEAR CONTRACT THAT EXPIRES
10:30:56 NEXT MONTH, JUNE OF THIS YEAR, SO THIS $4 MILLION PURCHASE
10:31:01 WOULD TAKE US TO JUNE OF 2023.
10:31:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND THERE HAVE BEEN BIDS ON THIS FROM
10:31:07 DIFFERENT CORPORATIONS?
10:31:09 >>BRAD BAIRD: YES.
10:31:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND THIS IS TIME SENSITIVE.
10:31:12 >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS IS TIME SENSITIVE, YES, SIR.
10:31:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:31:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
10:31:20 MANISCALCO.
10:31:20 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:31:22 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:31:25 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:31:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:31:26 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:31:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:31:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:31:30 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:31:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:31:32 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:31:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:31:34 >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
10:31:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE'RE HEARING 67?
10:31:46 >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY IN CONNECTION WITH ITEM 67.
10:31:49 I SUBMITTED A MEMO WITH SOME RECOMMENDED RULES, CHANGES TO
10:31:53 OUR CCNA RULES TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY AND PUT LIMITATIONS
10:31:58 ON THE ABILITY TO INCREASE PROJECT SCOPE.
10:32:01 I CAN RUN THROUGH THOSE.
10:32:02 BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE WITH YOU.
10:32:05 RELATIVE TO THE TRANSPARENCY ISSUE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT
10:32:08 THE RULES BE CHANGED TO REQUIRE PUBLICATION OF THE
10:32:10 ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE NEED FOR DESIGN-BUILD SERVICES AT LEAST
10:32:14 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THE DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION OF PROPOSALS OR
10:32:16 QUALIFICATIONS.
10:32:17 REQUIRE PUBLICATION ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE THROUGH DEMAND
10:32:22 STAR.
10:32:23 IN ADDITION, THROUGH, RIGHT NOW, ALL WE DO IS, LEGALLY WE DO
10:32:27 MORE BUT, I MEAN, WE DO MORE, BUT LEGALLY ALL WE ARE
10:32:30 REQUIRED TO DO IS TO PUBLISH AN AD.
10:32:32 SO WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT THESE BE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS ON TOP
10:32:35 OF WHAT WE DO BY PUBLICATION, REQUIRE PUBLICATION ONLINE, ON
10:32:39 THE CITY'S WEBSITE THROUGH DEMAND STAR, AND ALSO REQUIRE
10:32:42 THAT A LIST OF QUALIFIED AND CERTIFIED WMBE AND SLB
10:32:46 DESIGN-BUILD FIRMS BE MAINTAINED BY THE CONTRACT
10:32:48 ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT AND ALL OF THOSE FIRMS BE
10:32:51 SEPARATELY NOTIFIED OF A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS OR
10:32:53 QUALIFICATIONS FOR A DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT BY E-MAIL.
10:32:58 SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IN REGARDS TO TRANSPARENCY.
10:33:01 REGARDING THE ISSUE ABOUT THE GROWTH OR PUTTING LIMITATIONS
10:33:07 ON THE ABILITY TO INCREASE THE SCOPE OF A PROJECT, WE ARE
10:33:11 SUGGESTING THAT RULES BE ADOPTED THAT WOULD PROHIBIT
10:33:14 CARDINAL OR MATERIAL CHANGES, AND THOSE WOULD INCLUDE
10:33:18 CHANGES TO THE DESIGN CRITERIA PACKAGE OR PLANS AND
10:33:21 SPECIFICATIONS FOR PROJECT THAT WOULD RESULT IN A LAND USE
10:33:24 CHANGE, SITE ENLARGEMENT RELOCATION, FACILITY USE CHANGE,
10:33:28 CHANGE OF A PRIMARY UTILITY BEING CONSTRUCTED OR MORE THAN
10:33:32 DOUBLING THE LENGTH OF A UTILITY PROJECT.
10:33:35 WE'RE ALSO SUGGESTING THAT CARDINAL OR MATERIAL CHANGE WOULD
10:33:39 BE A CHANGE TO THE DESIGN CRITERIA PACKAGE OR PLANS FOR A
10:33:43 PROJECT THAT CAUSES THE COST OF A PROJECT TO INCREASE MORE
10:33:46 THAN TWICE THE BUDGET AMOUNT OR ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE THAT'S
10:33:49 ADVERTISED IN THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL OR QUALIFICATIONS FOR
10:33:52 THE SELECTION OF THE DESIGN-BUILD FIRM FOR A PROJECT.
10:33:56 AND WE'RE ALSO ENCOURAGING THAT CARDINAL MATERIAL CHANGES
10:34:03 ALSO BE DEFINED AS AN INTERRUPTION IN A STOP WORK ORDER IN
10:34:06 CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT SUBJECT TO A DESIGN-BUILD
10:34:09 CONTRACT OF THREE YEARS OR MORE.
10:34:10 THERE WOULD BE SOME EXCEPTIONS FOR FORCE MAJEURE TYPE OF
10:34:15 THINGS THAT ARE TOTALLY BEYOND THE CITY'S CONTROL.
10:34:17 FOR INSTANCE, WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE PROJECT AT ALL, BUT
10:34:20 WITH THE INFLATION, THE COST OF MATERIAL, GOES UP
10:34:22 SUBSTANTIALLY, THAT MAY HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE COST OF A
10:34:25 PROJECT.
10:34:25 THAT TYPE OF THING WOULD BE A FORCE MAJEURE TYPE OF CHANGE.
10:34:28 OTHER THAN THAT, IF WE'RE CHANGING OUR PLANS AND THAT WOULD
10:34:32 DOUBLE THE COST OF THE PROJECT, THEN THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO
10:34:35 BACK THROUGH THE CCNA PROCESS AGAIN, IS WHAT WE'RE
10:34:37 SUGGESTING.
10:34:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:34:39 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND THANKS TO
10:34:41 WHOEVER ELSE WORKED ON IT.
10:34:43 THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME IS THE DOUBLING OF THE PRICE.
10:34:46 SO IF THE PRICE DOUBLES, YOU SAID IT HAS TO GO THROUGH CCNA
10:34:51 PROCESS AGAIN, AND THAT INCLUDES THAT IT HAS TO COME BACK
10:34:53 BEFORE COUNCIL.
10:34:54 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THERE WILL BE A NEW CONTRACT AND WE'D HAVE
10:34:56 TO GO BACK, WE'D HAVE TO NEGATE THE -- CONTRACT AND COME
10:35:00 BACK TO YOU ALL.
10:35:00 >>BILL CARLSON: ARE WE APPROVING THIS TODAY?
10:35:03 >>MORRIS MASSEY: NO.
10:35:03 I DID THIS IN A MEMO FORMAT SO WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT AND IF
10:35:07 YOU ALL WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FORMALLY ADOPTING THE
10:35:10 RULE CHANGES, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT IS BROUGHT FORWARD.
10:35:13 >>BILL CARLSON: I APPRECIATE PUTTING IN DOUBLE.
10:35:15 I WISH IT WAS LESS THAN THAT.
10:35:17 I WISH IT WAS 20% OR SOMETHING.
10:35:18 BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S REASONABLE, TOO.
10:35:21 I WISH IT WAS 20 OR 50% MORE.
10:35:23 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I DID LOOK AT SOME CASE LAW IN CONNECTION
10:35:27 WITH THIS, AND CARDINAL CHANGES IN CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS,
10:35:30 IT'S NEVER REALLY BEEN ADDRESSED IN A CCNA SITUATION, BUT IT
10:35:34 HAS BEEN ADDRESSED IN CONNECTION WITH FEDERAL CONSTRUCTION
10:35:37 PROJECTS.
10:35:38 AND WHAT THE COURTS HAVE TYPICALLY LOOKED AT IS IF IT'S
10:35:41 DOUBLING THE COST OF A PROJECT, THEY TYPICALLY SAY THAT IS
10:35:46 PROBABLY CHANGING THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.
10:35:47 LESS THAN TWICE THE AMOUNT, THE COURTS TEND TO SAY THAT IS
10:35:54 IN THE SCOPE.
10:35:54 THAT'S WHY WE TOOK THAT POINT.
10:35:55 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT IN.
10:35:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:35:58 ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:35:59 THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY.
10:36:01 ITEM NUMBER 68.
10:36:06 THAT'S RIGHT.
10:36:15 STEPHEN BENSON IS OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
10:36:17 MS. TRAVIS.
10:36:18 LUCKY MAN.
10:36:21 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:36:22 NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
10:36:25 OPPORTUNITY.
10:36:26 THERE WAS A MEMO SUBMITTED REGARDING THIS ITEM.
10:36:30 AS YOU HEARD THROUGH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, THERE WERE SEVERAL
10:36:32 QUESTIONS.
10:36:33 I AM SCHEDULING A MEETING WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS, EXTERNAL
10:36:36 AND INTERNAL, TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
10:36:39 SO I ASK THAT IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION, WE CAN BRING
10:36:42 THAT BACK TO YOU, AN UPDATE ALLOW ME 60 DAYS TO COME BACK.
10:36:47 THIS IS NUMBER 68 WITH THE SOG ITEMS.
10:36:53 WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING UPDATES REGULARLY ON THIS, BUT THERE
10:36:55 ARE A FEW ITEMS THAT I THINK THAT ARE UNRESOLVED FROM THE
10:37:02 CITIZENS' SIDE.
10:37:03 I THINK WE NEED TO MEET AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN ANSWER
10:37:06 THOSE QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
10:37:07 I'LL BE HAPPY TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER UPDATE.
10:37:09 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, IT SAYS ON HERE THE NEXT
10:37:12 QUARTERLY UPDATE IS AUGUST 25.
10:37:15 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT WOULD BE PERFECT -- THAT'S ENOUGH
10:37:18 TIME.
10:37:20 >>BILL CARLSON: WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT.
10:37:23 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NO, WE WOULD BE BACK ON THERE.
10:37:26 IS THAT OKAY?
10:37:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
10:37:28 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
10:37:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM NUMBER 70.
10:37:30 GOOD MORNING, MS. FEELEY.
10:37:34 >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:37:36 ABBYE FEELEY, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
10:37:38 I'M HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 70.
10:37:41 I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION.
10:37:43 I KNOW WE'RE WORKING TO KEEP STAFF REPORTS TO ABOUT FIVE
10:37:45 MINUTES, SO I'LL DO MY BEST.
10:37:47 IT'S PRETTY QUICK.
10:37:48 THIS WAS A MOTION THAT WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND
10:37:53 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA RELATED TO WHAT WE'RE DOING,
10:37:58 THE DEVELOPMENT STAFF IS DOING TO REDUCE TIME FOR PERMITTING
10:38:02 AND LAND USE APPLICATIONS BEFORE THEY GET TO CITY COUNCIL.
10:38:04 I DID PLACE A CALL TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON JUST FOR SOME
10:38:09 CLARIFICATION.
10:38:10 I BELIEVE THE CONCERN WAS MORE RELATED TO ITEMS THAT COME TO
10:38:13 YOU WHICH WOULD NOT BE PERMITS, BUT THE APPLICATIONS THAT
10:38:15 YOU HEAR EITHER ON APPEAL OR IN YOUR QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS.
10:38:20 I DID, HOWEVER, STRUCTURE MY PRESENTATION QUICKLY TO TALK
10:38:24 ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES DIVISION, AND THEN I WILL GO
10:38:29 ON TO THE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION DIVISION.
10:38:31 OUR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES DIVISION HAS 94 MEMBERS.
10:38:35 IT HAS 45 THAT DO CLIENT FACILITATION AND PLAN REVIEWS, SO
10:38:39 THAT'S ALL YOUR PERMIT INTAKE, AND ALSO, YOUR PERMIT
10:38:43 REVIEWS.
10:38:43 WE HAVE 39 INSPECTORS, AND WE HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY
10:38:48 COMPLIANCE TEAM WHICH WAS JUST CREATED.
10:38:50 THAT'S A FOUR-MEMBER TEAM.
10:38:51 YOU MAY RECALL RECENTLY PASSING MODIFICATIONS TO THE CODE TO
10:38:55 ALLOW FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY DO THAT JOB.
10:38:58 AND THEN WE HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION OF SIX.
10:39:01 RIGHT NOW, JUST SO YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE PROCESSING ROUGHLY 21
10:39:06 TO 23 THOUSAND PERMITS ANNUALLY.
10:39:10 AND THERE IS A BREAKDOWN FOR YOU THERE OF OUR RESIDENTIAL
10:39:13 PERMITS VERSUS OUR COMMERCIAL PERMITS AND THE PERMIT VALUE.
10:39:17 SO FAR IN FISCAL YEAR 2022 WE ARE AT 12,776 PERMITS.
10:39:24 THAT'S SINCE OCTOBER 1.
10:39:26 SO WITH A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF $1.146 BILLION SO FAR THIS YEAR.
10:39:32 WE HAVE SEVERAL MORE MONTHS TO GO IN THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT
10:39:35 THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE PURE VOLUME THAT'S BEING
10:39:38 PROCESSED.
10:39:38 WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SYSTEMS
10:39:42 OF METRICS.
10:39:44 WE HAVE OPEN GOV, WHICH IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
10:39:48 THIS WILL SHOW YOU AT ANY TIME WHAT'S BEING PROCESSED BY OUR
10:39:51 DIVISION ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND A BREAKDOWN BY COMMERCIAL
10:39:56 CONSTRUCTION, MULTIFAMILY CONSTRUCTION PERMITS.
10:39:59 IN ADDITION TO THIS, WE HAVE ANOTHER TOOL WHICH IS CALLED
10:40:02 POWER PI.
10:40:05 I BELIEVE THIS ON MY DESKTOP EVERY DAY AND I CAN SEE WHAT MY
10:40:08 TEAM IS DOING, HOW LONG IT'S TAKING, WHERE WE'RE BEING
10:40:11 RESPONSIVE TO THE CLIENTS, WHERE THE CLIENTS ARE BEING
10:40:14 RESPONSIVE TO US, HOW MANY TASKS ARE RUNNING WITH THE
10:40:17 PERMITS THAT WE'RE OPERATING.
10:40:19 AND THIS IS WITH THE FISCAL YEAR '22.
10:40:22 AND THIS IS LIVE TIME.
10:40:23 AS I MENTIONED, NONE OF THOSE MATTERS COME BEFORE COUNCIL,
10:40:29 SO IN RELATIONSHIP TO TIMING, OR REDUCTION OF TIMING, I
10:40:33 THINK WE'RE MORE FOCUSED ON THE REZONING APPLICATIONS, THE
10:40:36 SPECIAL USE APPLICATIONS, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE.
10:40:40 AND THEN ANY APPEALS THAT YOU MAY HEAR.
10:40:42 SO ON ERIC'S TEAM, THAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
10:40:45 TEAM.
10:40:46 THERE ARE 30 FTEs.
10:40:48 I HAVE A BRIEF BREAKDOWN THERE.
10:40:50 THIS IS THE TEAM THAT'S REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING
10:40:53 THAT GETS TO YOU.
10:40:56 SO ON THAT, I DID ALSO WANT TO JUST KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT
10:41:02 THAT WORK OF THE 30 MEMBERS LOOKS LIKE.
10:41:04 AND HERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE APPLICATIONS.
10:41:08 SO WE HAVE IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR 2021, THAT TEAM PROCESSED
10:41:13 1800 APPLICATIONS.
10:41:15 YOU CAN SEE BELOW THAT THE REZONINGS, THERE WERE 135
10:41:20 REZONINGS.
10:41:21 THERE WERE TEN SPECIAL USE TWO APPLICATIONS.
10:41:23 THOSE COME BEFORE YOU.
10:41:24 THOSE ARE LIKE DRIVE-THROUGH WINDOWS OR ALFs.
10:41:29 AND THEN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, THERE WERE 32.
10:41:31 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT NUMBER THERE, THE 135 PLUS THE 10,
10:41:35 PLUS THE 32, AND WE'RE ROUGHLY IN THE 170s IN THERE, YOU
10:41:42 TAKE 10 NEW CASES A MONTH FOR YOUR REZONINGS.
10:41:46 WELL, 10 CASES AND 135 IN 12 MONTHS, WE'RE GOING TO NOT HAVE
10:41:51 ENOUGH SPACES FOR THOSE CASES.
10:41:53 SOME OF THOSE CASES MISNOTICE, DROP OFF, CONTINUE, WITHDRAW,
10:41:58 I MEAN, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPEN.
10:42:00 THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'VE SEEN THE BACKLOG.
10:42:04 YOU'LL SEE OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS THAT HAS VARIED.
10:42:07 LAST YEAR WAS THE HIGHEST AND SOME OF THAT MAY HAVE BEEN DUE
10:42:10 TO COVID AND THE DELAY OF PROCESSING PROJECTS, BUT I JUST
10:42:17 WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND SHOW YOU THAT.
10:42:20 AND THEN ALSO, JUST MAKE YOU AWARE THAT WE HAD COME TO YOU
10:42:23 IN JULY.
10:42:24 WE HAD COME TO YOU IN OCTOBER.
10:42:26 AND I JUST CAME TO YOU AGAIN IN MARCH TALKING ABOUT
10:42:29 CASELOAD, WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO, AND YOU DID ADD ADDITIONAL
10:42:34 HEARINGS.
10:42:34 I WENT AHEAD JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT SEVERAL OF THE STAGES IN
10:42:37 OUR PROCESS ARE CODIFIED.
10:42:39 AND I CAN'T MAKE THOSE QUICKER.
10:42:42 THE CODE SAYS YOU COME IN.
10:42:43 YOU GO TO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW --
10:42:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE CONTINUE.
10:42:46 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU.
10:42:47 I'M ALMOST DONE.
10:42:48 I HAVE TWO MORE SLIDES.
10:42:49 YOU GO TO THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE 30 DAYS AFTER
10:42:51 YOUR APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED.
10:42:52 YOU THEN GET 30 DAYS TO RESUBMIT.
10:42:55 SO RIGHT THERE IS 60 DAYS.
10:42:57 I CAN'T MAKE THAT HAPPEN ANY FASTER.
10:42:59 YOU GO TO PUBLIC NOTICE, THAT ALSO REQUIRES 30 DAYS.
10:43:03 SO NOW I'M AT A 90-DAY PROCESS.
10:43:05 THE SCHEDULE YOU SEE HERE, NOW THAT WE ADDED THE ADDITIONAL
10:43:11 NIGHTS, IF YOU WERE TO SUBMIT ON MAY 23rd, YOUR TENTATIVE
10:43:15 HEARING DATE IS SEPTEMBER 8.
10:43:17 THAT IS ROUGHLY 109 DAYS.
10:43:20 OUR PROCESS IS PRETTY FAST.
10:43:22 WE'RE STILL LEAPS AND BOUNDS AROUND MUNICIPALITIES AROUND US
10:43:27 IN TIMING AND GETTING THINGS GOING.
10:43:29 WITH THE ADDITION OF THE EXTRA HEARINGS, WE WERE ABLE TO
10:43:31 MOVE PEOPLE UP 30 TO 45 DAYS, AND RIGHT NOW, WE STILL HAVE
10:43:37 OPENINGS ON THE OCTOBER 6th HEARING CYCLE, AND WE ARE
10:43:41 WORKING TO CONTINUE TO EXPEDITE ANYBODY THAT IS IN THE
10:43:46 PROCESS.
10:43:46 AND WITH THE ADDITION OF THE DECEMBER 1st DATE, I STILL
10:43:50 FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BALANCE THOSE
10:43:53 CASELOADS.
10:43:54 AND THROUGH THE REASSIGNMENT, WE HAVE ONLY BEEN SHOOTING TO
10:43:58 PUT THAT 8 TO 10 TO KEEP THOSE NIGHTS MOVING SMOOTHLY FOR
10:44:02 YOU AS WELL.
10:44:03 WE'VE SENT OUT CORRESPONDENCE TO ALL THE APPLICANTS, ASK
10:44:07 THEM, LET THEM KNOW, WE HAVE NOW MOVED THEIR CASES UP.
10:44:11 UNLESS WE HEAR OTHERWISE, THEY WILL NOW BE PROCESSED ON THAT
10:44:14 CASE CYCLE.
10:44:15 IF THEY WISH TO RETAIN THE DATE THEY WERE ON LATER OUT,
10:44:18 WE'RE HAPPY TO COMMIT THAT AS WELL.
10:44:20 I MENTIONED THE 109 DAYS.
10:44:24 THAT'S ROUGHLY WHERE WE ARE WITH THE INCLUSION OF THE NEW
10:44:27 NIGHTS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BUMP THINGS UP.
10:44:29 THE LAST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, WHEN I CAME TO YOU
10:44:32 ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL EVENINGS, I ALSO CAME TO YOU SAYING
10:44:35 THAT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:44:38 WHY ARE WE NOW AT 135 CASES FOR REZONING WHEN WE'VE BEEN AT
10:44:42 LESS OVER THE YEARS?
10:44:43 IS IT JUST PURE DEMAND BASED ON DEVELOPMENT, OR IS IT THAT
10:44:48 THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN OUR CODE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE
10:44:50 SOME MODIFICATIONS AND ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE CASES THAT
10:44:53 ARE COMING TO YOU?
10:44:55 AND THAT'S MY LAST BULLET HERE IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO
10:44:57 CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT, AND WE WILL BRING THAT BACK TO
10:45:00 YOU.
10:45:01 IF THERE ARE SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS THAT CAN BE MADE IN
10:45:03 THE CODE THAT I KNOW AS A COUNCIL YOU ARE APPROVING, AND
10:45:07 THAT OUR GOOD PLANNING FOR OUR CITY WE WILL DO THAT AND I'LL
10:45:10 BRING THOSE BACK TO YOU.
10:45:11 HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, THAT MAY ALSO BALANCE TIME FRAMES
10:45:15 RELATED TO THESE CASES.
10:45:16 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:45:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:45:21 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:45:22 THANK YOU.
10:45:22 THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH THIS.
10:45:24 SOME FOLKS IN THE MEDIA, ESPECIALLY BUSINESS JOURNAL,
10:45:28 CRITICIZE CITY COUNCIL AND SAYS WHY IS CITY COUNCIL TAKING
10:45:31 SO LONG ON ALL THESE?
10:45:32 WHEN YOU ALL CAME TO US AND SAID YOU WANT TO ADD MORE DATES,
10:45:35 EVERY TIME YOU COME, WE ADD ALL THE DATES YOU WANTED.
10:45:39 BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU AND ALSO FROM THE
10:45:41 DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, MIGHT NEED TO ADD TWO OR THREE MORE.
10:45:44 BUT WE WANT TO DO OUR PART.
10:45:45 WE'RE WILLING TO PUT IN EXTRA TIME TO DO OUR PART ON THIS.
10:45:48 BUT MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS I GET ARE ABOUT PERMITTING AND
10:45:51 THE PROCESS THAT THEY GO THROUGH BEFORE THEY GET TO US.
10:45:55 THEY SAY IT TAKES SO LONG TO GET THROUGH THE PREP PROCESS,
10:45:58 BY THE TIME -- AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC CASES,
10:46:01 JUST TALKING ABOUT PROCESS IN GENERAL, BY THE TIME THEY GET
10:46:05 ASSIGNED A DATE WITH CITY COUNCIL, THEN IT'S FAR OUT AND
10:46:08 THEY GET DOUBLY FRUSTRATED FOR THAT.
10:46:10 SO WE CAN ADD MORE DATES.
10:46:12 AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM YOU INHERITED.
10:46:15 PART OF THE REASON WHY, MAYOR AND CAROL I THINK BROUGHT YOU
10:46:18 IN IS TRY TO FIX THESE ISSUES.
10:46:20 THE REASON WHY NICOLE IS HERE IS TO TRY TO FIX THESE ISSUES.
10:46:23 BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO SPEED UP THE UP-FRONT PROCESS
10:46:26 AND PERMITTING IS ESPECIALLY WHERE I GET A LOT OF
10:46:30 COMPLAINTS.
10:46:30 IT IS THE TIME IT TAKES.
10:46:32 ALSO, WE HEAR EVEN NOW REPORTS ABOUT DECISIONS BEING
10:46:35 ARBITRARY.
10:46:36 SOMEBODY COMES IN AND MAKES A DECISION, A RECOMMENDATION,
10:46:39 SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN LATER AND UNDOES THAT.
10:46:41 AND I THINK YOU HAD TALKED EITHER IN THE MEETING OR OFF-LINE
10:46:44 ABOUT HOW IF SOMEBODY ONLY NEEDS PART OF THE CRITERIA, MAYBE
10:46:47 ONE THING YOU CAN DO IS JUST BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT IN
10:46:50 THE BEGINNING AND TELL THEM ALL THE THINGS AS TO WHY THEY
10:46:52 ARE NOT GOING TO GET A PERMIT SO THEY CAN ADDRESS ALL OF IT
10:46:54 AT ONCE.
10:46:55 I MEAN, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS CAN SOLVE IT BECAUSE WE NEED
10:46:58 TO SET EXPECTATIONS BUT WE ALSO NEED TO GUIDE THROUGH THE
10:47:01 PROCESS.
10:47:02 WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ARBITRARY, AND WE NEED
10:47:04 TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT INCONSISTENT IN THE WAY WE
10:47:08 APPROACH IT.
10:47:08 TWO OTHER QUICK THINGS.
10:47:12 SPECIFIC COMPLAINT AND NOT ABOUT A SPECIFIC PROJECT, BUT
10:47:16 JUST IN GENERAL IS APPARENTLY THERE'S SOME RULE THAT TREATS
10:47:20 -- NOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SHIFTING TO OPEN OFFICE
10:47:25 CONCEPT, SOMEHOW THAT TRIGGERS A CITY CODE THAT CALLS IT AN
10:47:30 AUDITORIUM.
10:47:31 AND WE KNOW BECAUSE OF COVID ESPECIALLY AND BECAUSE OF
10:47:33 CHANGING INTERESTS THAT MORE AND MORE OFFICES WILL BE
10:47:36 CHANGING TO OPEN OFFICE CONCEPTS, AND IF THAT DOESN'T EXIST,
10:47:40 THEN FORGET ABOUT IT; IF IT DOES, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND
10:47:43 FIGURING THAT OUT AND BRINGING IT BACK TO US.
10:47:46 THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF CODE WE COULD CHANGE TO REDEFINE WHAT
10:47:49 AN OFFICE MEANS.
10:47:50 BUT IF IT TRIGGERS SOMETHING ABOUT AN AUDITORIUM, IF AN
10:47:52 AUDITORIUM CAUSES YOU TO HAVE TEN BATHROOMS WHERE AN OPEN
10:47:55 OFFICE WOULD ONLY REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE TWO, THEN WE NEED TO
10:47:57 FIX THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO UNDULY BURDEN THE PEOPLE
10:48:00 TRYING TO BUILD THE OFFICES AND OTHER STUFF.
10:48:02 THE OTHER THING IS THERE IS A STATE LAW APPARENTLY, SECTION
10:48:06 166-033 THAT SAYS THERE IS A MAXIMUM OF 180-DAY PROCESS, AND
10:48:12 THERE ARE SOME FOLKS SAYING NOW, BECAUSE THE CITY IS NOT
10:48:14 GOING TO HIT THAT, THEY ARE INDIRECTLY THREATENING
10:48:17 LITIGATION IF WE DON'T HIT THAT.
10:48:19 SO IT'S NOT ONLY THAT WE NEED TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY,
10:48:23 THERE'S ALSO, BY THE WAY, ALLEGATIONS THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE
10:48:26 GET MOVED THROUGH QUICKLY AND CERTAIN PEOPLE DON'T.
10:48:28 WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CONSISTENT ACROSS SIZE OF
10:48:31 ORGANIZATIONS, THE TYPES OF ORGANIZATIONS, THE LOBBYISTS
10:48:34 THAT THEY PICK, ET CETERA, SO THAT WE'RE FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
10:48:37 BUT IF YOU COULD HELP US ADDRESS THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
10:48:39 IF IT LOOKS LIKE WE NEED TWO OR THREE MORE MEETINGS, PLEASE
10:48:43 LET US KNOW BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO OUR PART TO MOVE THINGS
10:48:46 FASTER.
10:48:46 THANK YOU.
10:48:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:48:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON HIT ON ONE POINT, I THINK,
10:48:52 MS. FEELEY WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS IN THE BEGINNING.
10:48:55 PEOPLE GOING BACK, BACK, BACK AND TAKING ALL THAT TIME.
10:48:58 AND THEN CALLING US SAYING YOU GUYS DIDN'T DO YOUR JOB.
10:49:02 SOMETIMES IT'S REALLY THEM, THEIR CONTACTS OR ARCHITECT THAT
10:49:05 DIDN'T DO THE JOB.
10:49:06 SO WE HAVE TO PLACE THE BLAME WHERE IT REALLY IS.
10:49:09 IF I'M COMING TO SOMEBODY, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A PROCESS
10:49:12 TO WHERE IF I'M BRINGING MY DESIGN, WHATEVER TO THE PLANNING
10:49:15 BOARD, IT SHOULD BE SOMEBODY SAY, HEY, YOU'RE NOT READY YET.
10:49:18 YOU'RE NOT READY YET.
10:49:19 AND THEN THEY GO BACK AND COME BACK READY.
10:49:21 VERSUS, WE'RE CUTTING -- OKAY, WE'LL TAKE THIS, WE'LL SEND
10:49:24 THIS, WE'LL DO THAT.
10:49:25 AGAIN, IT'S PUTTING OTHER PEOPLE BEHIND, AND NOW IT'S
10:49:28 WASTING MORE STAFF TIME GOING BACK TO MORE PEOPLE AGAIN AND
10:49:32 AGAIN AND AGAIN.
10:49:32 SO I KNOW SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE UPSET IF YOU CHANGE THE
10:49:35 PROCESS IN THE BEGINNING, BUT I THINK YOU MAY HAVE TO LOOK
10:49:37 AT CHANGING MAYBE THAT PROCESS, UP-FRONT PROCESS, AND PEOPLE
10:49:40 WILL EVENTUALLY CATCH ON, LIKE ANYTHING, WELL, THEY ARE
10:49:42 CHANGING THE PROCESS, BUT THEY'LL EVENTUALLY CATCH ON AND GO
10:49:45 AHEAD AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT TO DO.
10:49:47 I THINK BECAUSE OUR PHONES RING, ESPECIALLY MINE.
10:49:49 EVERYBODY CALLS DISTRICT 5, YOU KNOW THAT.
10:49:51 YOU KNOW.
10:49:52 TO ME, I THINK WHEN I GO OUT AND I DO GO OUT.
10:49:57 COCOA IS STILL WAITING.
10:49:58 A CALL THIS MORNING THAT CAME IN.
10:50:00 INFORMATION ON THAT.
10:50:01 I GUESS THE PEOPLE SOMETIMES YOU DON'T KNOW TO KNOW.
10:50:05 AND AGAIN YOU GET ONE INSPECTOR GOES OUT THERE AND SAYS
10:50:08 THIS, AND GOES FOR THE NEXT ONE, NO, WELL, HE JUST TOLD ME.
10:50:12 I THINK MAYBE THE UP-FRONT PROCESS MIGHT BE THE BEST PROCESS
10:50:16 THAN GOING BACK, BACK, BACK.
10:50:17 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, IF I COULD RESPOND TO THAT FOR
10:50:20 JUST A MOMENT.
10:50:20 WE HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THAT.
10:50:23 MOST RECENTLY, WE DID PUBLISH PERMIT GUIDES.
10:50:26 WE NOW OF PERMIT GUIDES AVAILABLE THAT TALK TO THE MINIMUMS
10:50:30 THAT YOU WOULD NEED.
10:50:31 BUT I AM WORKING WITH MY TEAM TO INSTITUTE SUFFICIENCY WHEN
10:50:35 PERMITS ARE COMING IN AND TO OUR OWN DETRIMENT, I THINK
10:50:38 WE'VE BEEN A CITY THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, WORKED TO SUPPORT
10:50:42 DEVELOPMENT AND LET THINGS COME IN THE DOOR, AND THAT HAS
10:50:47 NOW CAUSED TWO AND THREE AND FOUR REVIEWS BECAUSE THEY ARE
10:50:50 NOT COMING IN WITH THE MINIMUM CRITERIA THAT THEY NEED TO
10:50:55 HAVE A FULL PERMIT REVIEW.
10:50:56 I'M WORKING WITH J.C., OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL, AND WE ARE
10:51:01 GOING TO INSTITUTE SUFFICIENT.
10:51:02 AND BASICALLY, WE WOULD THEN PUT THOSE PEOPLE ON NOTICE THAT
10:51:05 WHAT YOU HAVE SUBMITTED FOR YOUR PERMIT AT THIS TIME IS
10:51:09 INSUFFICIENT.
10:51:10 YOU NEED X, Y AND Z, AND WHEN YOU PUT X, Y AND Z TOGETHER
10:51:16 AND SUBMIT YOUR PERMIT, WE'LL BE HAPPY THEN TO PROCESS IT
10:51:19 THROUGH.
10:51:21 BUT WHAT YOU SEE IS -- I THINK I MENTIONED THIS -- A PERMIT
10:51:25 COMES IN.
10:51:25 THEY MAY BE MISSING THEIR MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, AND
10:51:29 PLUMBING SHEET.
10:51:29 THEY MAY BE MISSING THEIR FLORIDA PRODUCT APPROVED SHEET.
10:51:33 SO THEY HAVE THEIR FIRST REVIEW BASICALLY TELLS THEM, YOU'RE
10:51:37 MISSING X, Y AND Z.
10:51:39 THEN WHEN THE FULL REVIEW COMES IN, THEY GET A FULL REVIEW
10:51:45 AND NOW THEY HAVE 30 COMMENTS.
10:51:47 WELL, YOU DO, BECAUSE YOU'RE FINALLY GETTING THE FULL REVIEW
10:51:49 BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS NEEDED.
10:51:51 SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT, AND WE WILL BE -- WE HAVE
10:51:56 PROFESSIONAL ADVISORY GROUPS QUARTERLY WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS
10:51:59 IN THE INDUSTRY.
10:52:01 WE WILL BE MESSAGING THAT OUT THAT WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN
10:52:04 THAT, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY AN AUGUST 1st DATE TO
10:52:08 START THAT, TO ALLOW SOME TIME TO MESSAGE OUT THAT THAT IS
10:52:12 WHAT IS COMING, AND YOU'LL BE GIVEN A NOTICE OF SUFFICIENCY
10:52:16 RELATED TO YOUR PERMITS.
10:52:17 SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT NOW AND HOPE TO LAUNCH THAT.
10:52:20 I DID WANT TO RESPOND TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S OTHER COMMENT
10:52:25 ABOUT THE OPEN OFFICE SPACE.
10:52:27 WE ARE AWARE OF THAT, AND WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.
10:52:30 THAT SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE FOR ANY OFFICE THAT WANTS TO
10:52:33 COME TO TAMPA AND HAVE AN OPEN-OFFICE CONCEPT.
10:52:36 THANK YOU.
10:52:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:52:39 MS. FEELEY, THANK YOU.
10:52:40 YOU ARTICULATED SOME OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO SAY SO WELL.
10:52:45 75% OF THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE COME TO ME AND SAY, "WHAT IS
10:52:48 TAKING SO LONG?"
10:52:49 I HAVE TO TELL THEM, WELL, YOU DIDN'T FILL OUT THE PERMIT
10:52:53 PROPERLY.
10:52:53 YOU DIDN'T TALK WITH YOUR SUBCONTRACTORS.
10:52:54 SO THAT IS WHAT I HAVE TO TELL THEM.
10:52:57 PRIOR, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT ADMINISTRATIVELY TAKING CARE OF A
10:53:01 10% DIFFERENCE.
10:53:03 THAT IF A BUILDING IS 35-FOOT HIGH AND THEY JUST WANT TO GO
10:53:07 A LITTLE OVER THAT, ADMINISTRATIVELY, THAT COULD BE TAKEN
10:53:10 CARE OF INSTEAD OF COMING BEFORE US?
10:53:12 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE DESIGN EXCEPTION PROCESS DOES ALLOW FOR
10:53:15 THAT NOW.
10:53:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
10:53:16 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I THINK WHAT WE HAD BROUGHT A WHILE BACK WAS
10:53:20 THE LOT SPLITS AND A POTENTIAL TO ADMINISTRATIVELY DO A LOT
10:53:24 SPLIT IF IT WAS WITHIN A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, AND THAT WAS
10:53:27 NOT FOUND FAVORABLY BY COUNCIL, SO THOSE LOT SPLITS ARE
10:53:30 STILL COMING BEFORE YOU, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER -- I MEAN, I'M
10:53:35 GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WORK WITH ERIC.
10:53:37 WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AND SEE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S
10:53:41 SIMPLY A LOCAL STREET ACCESS WAIVER.
10:53:43 THAT'S ALL THEY NEED.
10:53:44 AND THEY ARE GOING THROUGH 110-DAY PROCESS TO GET THAT.
10:53:48 I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT HIT LIST TOGETHER.
10:53:51 MAYBE THE TOP THREE TO FIVE ITEMS.
10:53:53 LET YOU LOOK AT THAT.
10:53:54 WE CAN EVALUATE THAT AND SEE IF THERE ARE CODE CHANGES THAT
10:53:57 WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
10:53:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT.
10:53:59 THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY.
10:54:00 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU.
10:54:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM NUMBER 71.
10:54:20 >>DENNIS ROGERO: DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
10:54:24 ITEM 71, WE APPRECIATE THE OFFER AND THE OPPORTUNITY, BUT
10:54:28 THE ADMINISTRATION FEELS THAT THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY
10:54:31 COMMITTEE HAS BEEN, AND REMAINS IN ESSENCE, A CITY COUNCIL
10:54:36 COMMITTEE.
10:54:37 WE FEEL THE ARRANGEMENT -- I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY
10:54:39 PERSPECTIVE, WE FEEL IT'S BEEN VERY PRODUCTIVE.
10:54:42 WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE BEING A SUPPORTING PARTNER, AND I
10:54:45 THINK WE WORK WELL TOGETHER.
10:54:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS NOT HERE.
10:54:51 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANTED TO
10:54:53 ASK?
10:54:53 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:54:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU BELIEVE IT IS BEING PRODUCTIVE NOW,
10:54:58 SIR?
10:54:58 DO YOU BELIEVE NOW WITH THE BOARD WE HAVE NOW IT'S
10:55:02 PRODUCTIVE NOW?
10:55:03 >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DO.
10:55:04 I DO.
10:55:05 AS YOU KNOW, THEY ARE GEARING UP TO BEGIN THEIR BUDGET
10:55:07 PREPARATION MEETINGS AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT MONTH, AND
10:55:10 FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, THEY'VE GOT AN INCREMENTAL AND STEADY
10:55:14 PLAN TO CONTINUE MEETING THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
10:55:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
10:55:17 SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T WANT ANYONE
10:55:20 FROM ADMINISTRATION ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.
10:55:22 MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU JUST SAID.
10:55:23 TWO, I KNOW MR. SHELBY IS NOT HERE, BUT I KNOW THEY ARE
10:55:26 GETTING READY TO MAKE CHANGES IN THE BUDGET COMMITTEE
10:55:28 THEMSELVES BECAUSE HE OPERATE UNDER THE SUNSHINE.
10:55:30 THEY HAVE ISSUES GOING ON THROUGH THAT.
10:55:32 WE'RE TALKING TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES, BUT MR. SHELBY IS NOT
10:55:35 HERE TO DISCUSS THEM.
10:55:36 THAT WAS MR. CARLSON'S IDEA TO PUT THEM ON THERE.
10:55:40 I DO THINK THAT -- I THINK MAYBE NOW IN THE BEGINNING, THE
10:55:43 ADMINISTRATION WASN'T REALLY WORKING WITH THE BUDGET
10:55:46 COMMITTEE, BUT I THINK ONCE THE RELATIONSHIP KIND OF GOT
10:55:50 TOGETHER MOVING, I THINK MR. JOHNSON IS KIND OF WORKING OUT
10:55:54 NOW A LITTLE BIT, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, MAKE SURE THEY GET
10:55:57 INFORMATION, MAKE SURE THEY ARE MEETING WITH THE RIGHT
10:55:59 DEPARTMENTS AND NOT GETTING THE DOOR SLAMMED IN THEIR FACE
10:56:01 NOW.
10:56:02 I KNOW THE NUMBER ONE HERE ON ALL THESE FINANCIAL SITUATIONS
10:56:08 HERE, WHICH IS GREAT.
10:56:09 BUT, STILL, THE BUDGET COMMITTEE UNDER THE COUNCIL WANT TO
10:56:12 MAKE SURE STILL THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON
10:56:15 AND BE ABLE TO REPORT TO COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS.
10:56:18 >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.
10:56:19 AND I AGREE; THERE WERE SOME SPEED BUMPS.
10:56:22 I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN INTO A RHYTHM, AND WE'LL GET THE RHYTHM
10:56:26 GOING AGAIN DURING THE BUDGET PREP PROCESS.
10:56:28 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAID THE MAYOR DOES NOT WANT TWO
10:56:32 POSITIONS ON THERE.
10:56:33 >>DENNIS ROGERO: SHE DOES NOT.
10:56:35 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:56:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:56:36 >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:56:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SPEARMAN, YOU'VE GOT 72.
10:56:49 >>BRAD BAIRD: BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF
10:56:52 INFRASTRUCTURE, HERE ON ITEM 72.
10:56:55 THIS ITEM GOES BACK TO PRESENTATION MADE BY MR. SPEARMAN IN
10:57:00 SEPTEMBER OF 2021 ON SINGLE AND SOLE SOURCING.
10:57:06 IT HAS BEEN CONTINUED SEVERAL TIMES TO THIS DATE.
10:57:08 I HAVE PROVIDED SEVERAL MEMOS ON IT TO THE EFFECT THAT THE
10:57:15 CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT AND THE REAL ESTATE
10:57:17 DIVISION DOES NOT ENGAGE IN SINGLE AND SOLE SOURCE
10:57:24 PROCUREMENT.
10:57:25 HOWEVER, THE DISCUSSION THROUGH THOSE CONTINUATIONS MORPHED
10:57:31 INTO A REVIEW AND A PRESENTATION ASSOCIATED WITH MORE
10:57:38 GUIDELINES AND CONSTRAINTS AROUND THE CCNA PROCESS, WHICH
10:57:42 MR. MORRIS MASSEY ADDRESSED IN ITEM 67.
10:57:47 WITH THAT, THE ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF FEEL THAT WE HAVE
10:57:52 FULFILLED COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S REQUEST.
10:57:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS
10:57:58 OR ANY QUESTIONS?
10:57:59 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST, YEAH, THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE DID, ON
10:58:02 THE HANNA AVENUE PROJECT, WE FOUND A KIND OF LOOPHOLE WHERE
10:58:07 LEGAL SAYS TECHNICALLY IT FOLLOWED THE PROCESS.
10:58:10 WE DID NOT GET AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT IT, BUT
10:58:13 THROUGH THAT PROCESS, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE UPDATING CCNA.
10:58:21 EVERYONE THAT COMES BACK THAT SAYS WE CAN ONLY BUY FROM THIS
10:58:24 SOURCE BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THE OTHER EQUIPMENT, I ALWAYS
10:58:27 LOOK AT THOSE CAREFULLY.
10:58:29 I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO -- THE MAYOR TALKED ABOUT
10:58:33 TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
10:58:35 BEING TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE IN ALL THESE PURCHASING
10:58:39 PROCESSES.
10:58:39 AND THAT WE'RE FULLY EXPLAINING TO THE PUBLIC WHY WE PICKED
10:58:44 ONE COMPANY OVER ANOTHER.
10:58:46 THE COMPLAINTS ARE MOSTLY IN THE SERVICES AREA, NOT IN
10:58:49 PRODUCTS.
10:58:52 >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
10:58:53 YES, SIR, WE WILL DO THAT.
10:58:54 >>BILL CARLSON: THE POINT IS, IF OUR POTHOLE BUDGET IS $5
10:58:59 MILLION A YEAR AND THROUGH THE COMPETITIVE BIDS ON PROJECTS
10:59:03 LIKE HANNA AVENUE WE SAVE 5 MILLION, THAT DOUBLES OUR
10:59:06 POTHOLE BUDGET AND THE CITIZENS REALLY WANT US TO FILL
10:59:09 POTHOLES.
10:59:09 THE SAME THING WITH SIDEWALKS.
10:59:11 THEY SAY THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE NOT SAFE BECAUSE THEY DON'T
10:59:13 HAVE SIDEWALKS, I HEARD THAT IN THE TESTIMONY OF SOME OF THE
10:59:18 ISSUES WE'RE GOING TO HEAR TODAY.
10:59:19 IF WE SAVED 600,000 BY PUTTING SOMETHING OUT FOR BID, THAT
10:59:26 DOUBLES OUR SIDEWALK BUDGET FOR THE YEAR.
10:59:27 SO THESE THINGS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.
10:59:28 AND THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT US TO RAISE TAXES OR FEES.
10:59:31 THANK YOU.
10:59:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:59:33 THANK YOU, MR. SPEARMAN.
10:59:37 >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
10:59:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 73.
10:59:44 MR. SPEARMAN, THANK YOU.
10:59:47 >>GREG SPEARMAN: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, GREG SPEARMAN,
10:59:50 PURCHASING DIRECTOR.
10:59:50 WE ALSO HAVE MS. MARCELLA HAMILTON FROM THE LEGAL
10:59:53 DEPARTMENT.
10:59:54 WE DO HAVE A BRIEF PowerPoint THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR
10:59:58 PACKET IN ADDITION TO A MEMO THAT CAME FROM MS. HAMILTON
11:00:02 THROUGH THE CHIEF OF STAFF, CITY COUNCIL, DATED APRIL THE
11:00:06 25th.
11:00:07 IF WE CAN BRING UP THE PowerPoint AND GO TO THE FIRST
11:00:10 SLIDE, PLEASE.
11:00:11 NEXT SLIDE.
11:00:12 OKAY.
11:00:20 BASICALLY, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT
11:00:23 MS. HAMILTON HAD PRESENTED TO YOU IN A MEMO.
11:00:26 SO HAVING A MINIMUM WAGE OF $15 AN HOUR FOR FUTURE CONTRACTS
11:00:31 FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA IS LEGALLY PERMISSIBLE.
11:00:34 HOWEVER, STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS, STATUTES MAY LIMIT
11:00:39 SUCH A REQUIREMENT FOR CONTRACTS THAT ARE FUNDED OR RECEIVE
11:00:42 ASSISTANCE FROM THE STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
11:00:44 SO THERE ARE CERTAIN POLICY DECISIONS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE
11:00:48 CONSIDERED.
11:00:49 FOR AN EXAMPLE, RATIONAL FOR RECOMMENDED RATE PER HOUR,
11:00:53 APPLICABLE CONTRACT TYPES, ANNUAL COST TO THE CITY, INDEXING
11:00:58 HOURLY RATES IN THE FUTURE YEARS, RATE VARIATION BASED ON
11:01:01 EMPLOYER PROVIDED BENEFITS, AND ENFORCEMENT AND ALSO
11:01:05 MONITORING.
11:01:05 SO THE FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT HAS ESTABLISHED A CURRENT
11:01:13 PAY RATE OF $7.25 PER HOUR.
11:01:15 SO IT INCLUDES EXEMPTION FROM FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE
11:01:19 PROVISIONS, BUT IN GENERAL AN EMPLOYER MUST PAY ITS COVERED
11:01:23 NONEXEMPT EMPLOYEES THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE.
11:01:26 THE STATE, HOWEVER, MAY SET THE RATE HIGHER THAN THE FEDERAL
11:01:30 MINIMUM WAGE, BUT NOT LOWER.
11:01:32 SO IN CASE THIS WERE AN -- SO IN CASES WHERE AN EMPLOYEE IS
11:01:37 SUBJECT TO BOTH THE STATE AND FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE, THE
11:01:39 EMPLOYEE IS ENTITLED TO THE HIGHER OF THE TWO MINIMUM WAGES.
11:01:42 FLORIDA HAS A HIGHER MINIMUM WAGE THAN THE FEDERAL
11:01:50 GOVERNMENT.
11:01:50 THE STATE MINIMUM WAGE REQUIREMENT IS CURRENTLY AT $10 PER
11:01:54 HOUR, WHICH WILL INCREASE 1 DOLLAR EVERY SEPTEMBER 30th
11:02:00 UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, 2026, WHEN THE RATE WILL BE $15 PER
11:02:04 HOUR.
11:02:05 THEREAFTER, THE RATE WILL BE INCREASED USING INDEX THAT'S
11:02:09 PROVIDED FOR IN THE STATUTE.
11:02:11 NOW, STATUTORY RESTRICTIONS, THERE ARE SOME STATE
11:02:19 CONSTITUTION GRANTS -- THE STATE CONSTITUTION GRANT
11:02:22 MUNICIPALITIES SUCH AS THE CITY OF TAMPA THE POWER TO ENACT
11:02:26 ORDINANCES WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS.
11:02:27 A LOCAL GOVERNMENT MAY NOT ENACT AN ORDINANCE IF STATE
11:02:33 LEGISLATURE EXPRESSLY PROHIBITS SUCH AN ENACTMENT.
11:02:36 SUCH A STATE PRE-EXEMPTION EXISTS WHICH PROHIBITS POLITICAL
11:02:42 -- INCLUDING MUNICIPALITIES FROM -- POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS
11:02:45 INCLUDING MUNICIPALITIES FROM ESTABLISHING MINIMUM WAGE
11:02:47 LEVELS WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTIONS.
11:02:48 THE LAW SPECIFICALLY DOES NOT LIMIT THE AUTHORITY OF A
11:02:51 MUNICIPALITY TO ESTABLISH A MINIMUM WAGE FOR THE EMPLOYEES
11:02:54 OF AN EMPLOYER CONTRACTING TO PROVIDE GOODS OR SERVICES FOR
11:02:58 THAT MUNICIPALITY, OR FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF A SUBCONTRACTOR
11:03:02 OF SUCH AN EMPLOYER, UNDER THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT.
11:03:05 THE LAW, HOWEVER, DOES NOT APPLY IF IT WOULD PREVENT THE
11:03:12 RECEIPT OF FEDERAL FUNDS.
11:03:14 NOW, THE DAVIS-BACON ACT WHICH MORE APPLIES TO THE CCNA
11:03:20 PROCESS WOULD APPLY FEDERAL FUNDING OR ASSISTED CONTRACTS IN
11:03:24 EXCESS OF $2,000 FOR CONSTRUCTION, ALTERATION, REPAIR OF
11:03:29 PUBLIC BUILDINGS OR PUBLIC WORKS.
11:03:31 IN THOSE PARTICULAR INSTANCES, EMPLOYEES MUST BE PAID THE
11:03:35 LOCALLY PREVAILING WAGE FOR CORRESPONDING WORK ON SIMILAR
11:03:39 PROJECTS IN THE AREA.
11:03:40 SO ANOTHER STATE PRE-EXEMPTION IN THE CASE OF CONTRACTS FOR
11:03:45 PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT MAY NOT REQUIRE THAT A CONTRACTOR,
11:03:49 SUBCONTRACTOR, OR MATERIAL SUPPLIER PAY EMPLOYEES A
11:03:52 PREDETERMINED AMOUNT OF WAGES OR PRESCRIBE ANY WAGE RATE.
11:03:56 SO THE CITY MAY ENACT AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A MINIMUM
11:04:02 WAGE RATE FOR FUTURE CONTRACTS, BUT THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS
11:04:07 FROM THE IMPOSITION OF SUCH A LOCAL MINIMUM WAGE.
11:04:10 THESE WOULD INCLUDE JUST MENTIONED, STATE-FUNDED PUBLIC
11:04:16 WORKS CONTRACT AND ALSO THOSE FEDERALLY FUNDED CONTRACTS ON
11:04:18 THE DAVIS-BACON.
11:04:20 NOW, THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS IMPLEMENTED A MINIMUM WAGE
11:04:25 REQUIREMENT.
11:04:26 THIS MINIMUM WAGE REQUIREMENT TAKES EFFECT ON SEPTEMBER 30
11:04:31 BEGINNING AT $11 PER HOUR.
11:04:33 AND WILL INCREASE ONE DOLLAR PER HOUR EVERY YEAR ON
11:04:37 SEPTEMBER 30th UNTIL WE REACH THE $15 PER HOUR IN 2026.
11:04:43 THE CITY ALREADY MANDATES THAT ALL OF OUR CONTRACTORS COMPLY
11:04:48 WITH STATE LAW, EXCEPT THOSE THAT ARE FUNDED WITH FEDERAL
11:04:52 FUNDING.
11:04:53 SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE FOLLOW THE STATE GUIDELINES
11:05:01 IN TERMS OF CONTRACT INCREASES WHICH BEGINS THIS SEPTEMBER
11:05:03 30 AT $11 AN HOUR AND THEN CULMINATES SEPTEMBER 30, 2026 AT
11:05:09 $15 AN HOUR.
11:05:10 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ALONG WITH
11:05:12 MS. HAMILTON WHO IS HERE WITH ME.
11:05:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:05:16 THANK YOU, MR. SPEARMAN.
11:05:23 >>GREG SPEARMAN: THANK YOU.
11:05:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT LOOKS AS IF IT WILL DO US FOR STAFF
11:05:36 REPORTS, EXCEPT FOR ITEMS 62, 63, AND 76, WHICH WILL BE
11:05:43 HEARD AT 1:30 WHEN WE COME BACK FROM OUR BREAK LET'S GO TO
11:05:59 ITEM 9.
11:06:00 >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON FROM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:06:02 WITH ME IS MELANIE CALLOWAY.
11:06:05 FIRST READING OR AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 22 PERTAINING
11:06:09 TO SIDEWALK CAFES AND STREET CAFES.
11:06:13 THIS WAS INTRODUCED TO YOU LAST MONTH DURING THE WORKSHOP
11:06:16 HEARING.
11:06:16 THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE IS AN OUTGROWTH OF THE LIFT UP LOCAL
11:06:20 PROGRAM THAT WAS INSTITUTED DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
11:06:23 THAT'S SET TO EXPIRE ON JUNE 30th.
11:06:27 THE REQUEST IS TO HAVE THIS ADOPTED BEFORE THAT TIME FRAME.
11:06:31 ALLOW ESTABLISHMENTS TO OPEN UP FOR OUTDOOR SEATING AREAS AS
11:06:35 A RESULT OF THE DECREASED CAPACITY THAT WAS ALLOWED INDOORS.
11:06:41 IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE, THIS IS GOING TO ALLOW RESTAURANTS
11:06:43 WHO HAVE AN APPROVED SIDEWALK CAFE PERMIT TO UTILIZE
11:06:47 PORTIONS OF THE STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE ACTUAL PARKING
11:06:50 AREAS TO EXPAND THEIR AREA.
11:06:54 IT'S CREATING SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR THAT, INCLUDING THE
11:06:57 TYPE OF PLATFORM, THE SEATING ARRANGEMENTS, WHAT CAN BE IN
11:07:01 THAT STREET CAFE AREA.
11:07:03 THE AMENDMENT WILL ALSO ALLOW FOR -- RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY
11:07:08 PLACES THAT CAN GET STREET CAFE, SIDEWALK CAFE PERMITS ARE
11:07:12 DOWNTOWN, YBOR, AND THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
11:07:14 THIS WILL ALLOW STREET -- OUR SIDEWALK CAFES TO BE PERMITTED
11:07:18 ANYWHERE ALSO IN THE CITY.
11:07:20 RIGHT NOW, IF I AM IN HYDE PARK OR I AM IN ANOTHER SECTION
11:07:23 OF TOWN IN WEST TAMPA AND I WANT TO DO A STREET SIDEWALK
11:07:26 CAFE, I NEED TO APPLY, APPLICATION IS DENIED, APPEAL GOES TO
11:07:31 CITY COUNCIL FOR COUNCIL TO APPROVE.
11:07:33 ON AVERAGE, I BELIEVE YOU GET ONE PER YEAR.
11:07:35 SO THIS WILL TAKE AWAY THAT NEED TO GO THROUGH THE APPEALS
11:07:38 PROCESS AND ALLOW STAFF TO APPROVE IT AT THE STAFF LEVEL.
11:07:44 QUICK SUMMARY, AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST READING.
11:07:47 SECOND READING WILL BE HELD, DEPENDING ON COUNCIL'S VOTE
11:07:50 TODAY, IN TWO WEEKS.
11:07:51 DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES?
11:07:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:07:56 IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT
11:08:05 ON THIS?
11:08:10 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:08:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:08:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:08:15 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING.
11:08:16 THIS IS JUST FOR READING.
11:08:17 SO THE ORDINANCE DOES -- THE TITLE NEEDS TO BE READ IN FULL.
11:08:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:08:21 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:08:28 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
11:08:29 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER E2022-8 CH 22, ORDINANCE
11:08:35 BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
11:08:37 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO
11:08:39 STREET CAFES, MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
11:08:43 ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 22 (STREETS AND SIDEWALKS); AMENDING
11:08:47 SECTION 22-5, DEFINITIONS; AMENDING SECTION 22-223,
11:08:52 ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY; AMENDING SECTION IT 22-224,
11:08:58 ESTABLISHMENT AUTHORIZED TO OPERATE SIDEWALK CAFES;
11:09:01 APPLICATION CRITERIA, REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCEDURES;
11:09:04 AMENDING SECTION 22-225, PERMIT ISSUANCE; AMENDING SECTION
11:09:08 22-226, CONDITIONS OF PERMIT; AMENDING SECTION 22-227,
11:09:14 OPERATIONAL GUIDELINES; AMENDING SECTION 22-228, REVOCATION
11:09:18 OR SUSPENSION OF PERMIT; AMENDING SECTION 22-229, PERMIT
11:09:23 RENEWAL; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
11:09:26 CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN
11:09:30 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:09:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:09:32 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:09:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:09:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:09:36 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:09:38 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:09:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:09:39 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
11:09:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:09:43 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
11:09:45 ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:09:46 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION IS TO BE HELD ON JUNE 16, 2022,
11:09:50 AT 9:30 A.M.
11:09:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:09:53 THANK YOU, MR. COTTON.
11:09:54 >>ERIC COTTON: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:09:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CAN YOU READ ITEMS
11:09:58 NUMBER 10 THROUGH 14 FOR PUBLIC SAFETY?
11:10:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR, I WILL.
11:10:03 MR. CHAIRMAN, MOVE ITEMS 10 THROUGH 14.
11:10:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME.
11:10:08 MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
11:10:11 GUDES.
11:10:12 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:10:13 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
11:10:18 COUNCILMAN GUDES, CAN YOU READ PARKS AND RECREATION, ITEMS
11:10:21 15 THROUGH 17.
11:10:23 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM
11:10:26 NUMBER 17 BECAUSE MY COMPANY WORKS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
11:10:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WORKS WITH WHO?
11:10:34 >>BILL CARLSON: SCHOOL DISTRICT.
11:10:35 SCHOOL BOARD OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
11:10:36 VOTE ON 15, 16 AND I'LL STEP OUT FOR 17 AND FILE MY FORM
11:10:41 NEXT WEEK.
11:10:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE ITEMS 15 AND 16.
11:10:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:10:47 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:10:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:10:48 ANY OPPOSED?
11:10:53 >>BILL CARLSON: BY THE WAY, I SHOULD STATE MY FIRM DOES NOT
11:10:56 WORK ON THIS ISSUE.
11:10:59 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE ROOM.
11:11:01 I THINK IT DOES NEED TO LOOK LIKE HE'S NOT VOTING ON THIS
11:11:06 ITEM.
11:11:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE 17.
11:11:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES,
11:11:10 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:11:11 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:11:12 ANY OPPOSED?
11:11:13 THANK YOU.
11:11:15 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
11:11:17 ABSTAINING AND VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:11:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:11:20 MS. HURTAK, PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE ITEMS 18 THROUGH 24.
11:11:25 >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS 18 THROUGH 24.
11:11:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:11:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
11:11:34 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:11:35 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:11:36 ANY OPPOSED?
11:11:37 THANK YOU.
11:11:41 >>BILL CARLSON: I ALSO NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF ON NUMBER 28,
11:11:44 JUST IN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, ONE OF MY FIRMS THAT I
11:11:48 PERSONALLY USE AND MY FIRM USES IN THIS LIST, AND IT'S JUST
11:11:52 BETTER NOT TO VOTE ON THAT.
11:11:54 THAT'S NUMBER 28.
11:11:56 >>MORRIS MASSEY: BEFORE COUNCIL VOTES ON THESE ITEMS, IT
11:11:59 MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
11:12:01 THAT WERE RAISED AT PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 28 JUST TO
11:12:04 CLARIFY THINGS.
11:12:04 YOU ARE NOT APPROVING 2.6 MILLION DOLLARS' WORTH OF LEGAL
11:12:09 WORK.
11:12:09 EACH OF THE CONTRACTS HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR CAP.
11:12:13 IN ADDITION TO THE CAP THAT'S IN THE CONTRACT, IT'S SUBJECT
11:12:16 TO WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR ANNUAL BUDGET IN THE LEGAL
11:12:18 DEPARTMENT.
11:12:19 RIGHT NOW, OUR ANNUAL BUDGET, WE HAVE ABOUT MAYBE 200,000,
11:12:24 250,000 DOLLARS ALLOTTED FOR OUTSIDE COUNSEL WORK.
11:12:29 ALSO MONEY ALLOTTED THROUGH THE RISK DEPARTMENT TO COVER
11:12:32 CLAIMS.
11:12:33 THOSE ALL ARE SUBJECT TO BUDGET APPROVAL BY YOU SO THAT
11:12:37 THROUGH THE BUDGETARY PROCESS, IT ALSO CAPS WHAT YOU ARE
11:12:42 GOING TO BE PAYING IN THE WAY OF OUTSIDE LEGAL SERVICES.
11:12:45 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS CLEAR ON THAT.
11:12:47 SO YOU'RE NOT APPROVE -- BY VIRTUE OF APPROVING THE
11:12:52 CONTRACTS.
11:12:52 THE OTHER THING I WANT TO CLARIFY, THE REASON WHY THERE ARE
11:12:55 SO MANY FIRMS IN THIS LIST IS FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, THE
11:12:58 CITY OF TAMPA LEGAL DEPARTMENT THROUGH PURCHASING PUT OUT AN
11:13:01 RFQ TO SEEK OTHER LAW FIRMS.
11:13:04 TRADITIONALLY, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS ENGAGED FIRMS THAT
11:13:06 HAVE TRADITIONALLY PROVIDED LEGAL SERVICES TO THE CITY OF
11:13:08 TAMPA.
11:13:08 WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO THE
11:13:12 COMMUNITY AND GET OTHER SMALL FIRMS, FIRMS THAT ARE MINORITY
11:13:16 OWNED OR WOMEN-OWNED LAW FIRMS TO ALSO CONTRACT WITH US AND
11:13:19 TO TRY TO DISTRIBUTE OUR LEGAL WORK MORE BROADLY IN THE
11:13:22 LEGAL COMMUNITY.
11:13:23 SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY THERE'S 26 LAW FIRMS IN THE LIST.
11:13:27 JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.
11:13:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:13:29 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A CLARIFYING QUESTION.
11:13:33 WHEN THE CITY ENGAGES THEM, BEFORE IT SPENDS A DOLLAR WITH
11:13:38 THEM BY FLORIDA BAR RULES, ARE THEY CONFLICTED OUT FROM
11:13:44 WORKING ON MATTERS AGAINST THE CITY?
11:13:47 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE CONTRACT --
11:13:48 THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WE'RE DOING THIS.
11:13:50 WE HAVE DIFFERENT FORM CONTRACTS WITH EVERY LAW FIRM WITH
11:13:52 DIFFERENT CAP AMOUNTS.
11:13:54 SO WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A UNIFORM CONTRACT THAT WE FOR ALL
11:13:57 OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
11:13:58 THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST SECTION IN THE CONTRACT THAT
11:14:03 -- I MEAN, FOR INSTANCE, LAW FIRMS THAT ARE ON THIS LIST,
11:14:08 YOU WILL SEE THEM ALSO COME HERE AND REPRESENT CLIENTS ON
11:14:11 ZONING MATTERS.
11:14:12 THEY ARE NOT CONFLICTED FROM COMING AND APPEARING BEFORE YOU
11:14:15 ALL ON ROUTINE MATTERS OR ROUTINE MATTERS BEFORE THE BOARD.
11:14:19 NOW, THEY ARE CONFLICTED OUT OF REPRESENTING CLIENTS IN A
11:14:25 MATTER DIRECTLY ADVERSE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA WITHOUT IT
11:14:28 GETTING CLEARED THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND MAKING SURE
11:14:30 IT COMPLIES WITH FLORIDA BAR RULES.
11:14:32 >>BILL CARLSON: EVEN IF THE CITY HASN'T SPENT A DOLLAR WITH
11:14:35 THEM YET.
11:14:37 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I MEAN, IF THEY -- IF THEY'VE UNDERTOOK A
11:14:40 MATTER IN CONFLICT WITH THE CITY, THEN WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT
11:14:42 ENGAGE THEM FOR OUTSIDE LEGAL SERVICES.
11:14:44 UNTIL THAT MATTER WAS RESOLVED.
11:14:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:14:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:14:51 THE FIRMS LISTED ARE ALSO WITH THE SPECIALTY WHAT THEY
11:14:55 COMPLY WITH, NOT FROM A TO Z.
11:14:59 >>MORRIS MASSEY: IT'S SPECIFICALLY AREAS.
11:15:01 WE HAD 14 OR 15 SPECIFIC AREAS IN OUR RFQ.
11:15:04 THESE LAW FIRMS ARE QUALIFIED FOR INDIVIDUAL SPECIFIC AREAS.
11:15:08 SO IT'S NOT THAT THEY COULD REPRESENT THE CITY IN ANY
11:15:10 MATTER.
11:15:12 >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU WANT ME TO STEP OUT NOW OR VOTE ON
11:15:14 THE OTHERS FIRST?
11:15:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION HAS TO BE MADE.
11:15:16 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STEP OUT NOW, I'M SURE THAT THE MOTION
11:15:19 MAKER WILL BIFURCATE THESE.
11:15:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE ITEMS 25 TO 30.
11:15:25 I KNOW 28 HAS BEEN EXPLAINED.
11:15:28 SO I'LL MOVE THAT INCLUDING IN THE MOTION.
11:15:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA,
11:15:33 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:15:34 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:15:35 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:15:39 EXCUSE ME.
11:15:42 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:15:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WASN'T GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.
11:15:45 AFTER MR. MASSEY GAVE LITTLE MORE DETAIL, BECAUSE I WAS NOT
11:15:49 GOING TO SUPPORT THIS, AND THE MAIN THING WAS CONFLICT OF
11:15:52 INTEREST IN THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
11:15:54 PAYING SOMEBODY TO DO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING THEM TO DO.
11:15:56 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN YOU EXPLAIN THAT, WHAT THE
11:15:58 PARAMETERS WITH THIS, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT IT, BUT
11:16:02 I WAS NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
11:16:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:16:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:16:07 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:16:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:16:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:16:11 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:16:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:16:14 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
11:16:17 ABSTAINING.
11:16:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:16:30 BUILDING AND ZONING PRESERVATION.
11:16:32 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, AGENDA ITEMS 31 THROUGH 43.
11:16:37 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.
11:16:38 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 31 THROUGH 43.
11:16:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:16:44 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:16:46 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:16:46 ANY OPPOSED?
11:16:48 THANK YOU.
11:16:49 TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:16:56 ITEMS 44 AND 45.
11:16:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:16:59 I MOVE ITEMS 44 AND 45.
11:17:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
11:17:04 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:17:06 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:17:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO OPEN ALL 9:30 AND 10:30 PUBLIC
11:17:11 HEARINGS.
11:17:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCILMAN
11:17:13 MANISCALCO.
11:17:13 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:17:14 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:17:22 ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 46, FILE NUMBER E2022-8, CHAPTER 12.
11:17:31 >> REBECCA JOHNS, CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE.
11:17:34 THIS IS THE SECOND READING ON THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD
11:17:37 PROVIDE, NUMBER ONE, AN EXTENSION TO THE TIME FRAME TO
11:17:40 TERMINATE MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASES FROM 15 DAYS TO 30 DAYS AND
11:17:43 IT WOULD PROVIDE FOR A LANDLORD TO PROVIDE 60 DAYS' NOTICE
11:17:47 BEFORE RAISING THE RENT AT THE END OF A TERM WHEN THE LEASE
11:17:51 IS EXPIRING.
11:17:52 I DO BELIEVE THAT ALL OF YOU RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE BAY
11:17:55 AREA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION WITH THEIR OBJECTIONS TO, OR
11:17:59 THEIR CONCERNS TO THIS ORDINANCE.
11:18:00 SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS A FEW OF THOSE CONCERNS.
11:18:04 THE FIRST IS THEY ARE ALLEGING THAT THIS CONSTITUTES
11:18:09 IMPAIRMENT.
11:18:10 IMPAIRMENT IS WHEN THE GOVERNMENT WOULD DO SOMETHING THAT
11:18:12 WOULD IMPAIR OR IMPEDE THE OBLIGATIONS UNDER A LEASE FROM
11:18:18 BEING PERFORMED.
11:18:20 WE DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS IMPAIRMENT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT
11:18:23 AFFECTING LEASES AS THEY ARE OCCURRING RIGHT NOW.
11:18:26 WE ARE AFFECTING THE NOTICE PROVISIONS FOR THE LEASE IN THE
11:18:29 FUTURE.
11:18:30 SO WE'RE NOT AFFECTING ANY OF THE ONGOING OBLIGATIONS OF THE
11:18:35 CURRENT LEASE.
11:18:36 SO WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS IMPAIRMENT.
11:18:39 THE OTHER OBJECTIONS THEY HAVE WERE NOT LEGAL OBJECTIONS.
11:18:49 THOSE WERE POLICY DECISIONS.
11:18:51 THE FIRST ONE WAS THEY HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THE TIME FOR
11:18:57 TERMINATING THE MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASE.
11:18:59 THEY ARE LOOKING FOR IT TO BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 15 AND 30
11:19:02 DAYS.
11:19:02 I HAD PUT 30 DAYS, AS I EXPLAINED LAST TIME BECAUSE THAT'S
11:19:06 THE MAXIMUM.
11:19:07 BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CHANGE THAT, WE CAN CHANGE
11:19:09 THAT IN THE ORDINANCE.
11:19:10 THEY ALSO HAD A CONCERN ABOUT LEASES THAT ARE SUBJECT TO HUD
11:19:16 RENTAL RESTRICTIONS.
11:19:18 AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE HUD PROGRAMS DO
11:19:22 PROVIDE THAT IF YOUR RENT IS DETERMINED BY THE HUD RENTAL
11:19:26 RATE, THAT RATE CHANGES, THEN YOUR RENTAL AMOUNT IN THE
11:19:31 LEASE CAN CHANGE UPON THAT CHANGE.
11:19:34 SO THIS WOULD NOT AFFECT THAT, THOUGH.
11:19:36 BECAUSE THIS WILL ONLY AFFECT LEASES AT THE END OF THE TERM
11:19:40 WHEN THE RENT GOES UP.
11:19:41 SO THIS WOULD NOT AFFECT THOSE MIDTERM ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON
11:19:46 HUD RULES.
11:19:47 I THINK THEIR LAST CONCERN WAS PENALTIES.
11:19:51 THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE A FINE FOR THIS PROCESS.
11:19:55 HOWEVER, WE HAVE THIS UNDER CODE ENFORCEMENT, SO THAT'S THE
11:19:58 ONLY WAY THAT WE REALLY COULD ENFORCE THIS WAS WITH A FINE.
11:20:02 BUT, AGAIN, THAT'S A POLICY DECISION, SO I WILL LEAVE THAT
11:20:05 TO ALL OF YOU.
11:20:06 SO WE ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:20:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:20:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:20:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION.
11:20:11 VERY INFORMATIVE.
11:20:12 HOWEVER, THERE WAS ANOTHER THING ON THE LEASES, WHEN YOU
11:20:16 HAVE A LEASE WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR SOME OTHER,
11:20:18 SECTION 8 OR WHATEVER, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE DON'T CONTROL THAT.
11:20:20 THAT'S DONE ON A YEARLY APPLICATION WITH THE TENANT, THE
11:20:25 HOUSING AUTHORITY, AND YOURSELVES.
11:20:28 AND DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME OF 12 MONTHS, IF THAT RATE OF
11:20:33 INCOME CHANGES FOR THAT PERSON EITHER UP OR DOWN, THOSE
11:20:37 LEASES ARE AUTOMATICALLY ADJUSTED BETWEEN THE THREE PARTIES.
11:20:40 SO THERE'S, WE DON'T CHANGE THAT LEASE, EVEN THOUGH THEY
11:20:43 HAVE A CONTRACT FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT -- CHANGE DEPENDING ON
11:20:48 WHAT HAPPENS ON THE INCOME OF THAT PERSON.
11:20:51 >> CORRECT.
11:20:51 WE COULD NOT AFFECT THAT.
11:20:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:20:55 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:20:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU HEARD FLORIDA RISING DISTRICT PERSON
11:20:59 COME AND TALK ABOUT THIS 60 VERSUS 90 DAYS.
11:21:03 I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME YOU TALKED ABOUT YOU DIDN'T FEEL
11:21:06 COMFORTABLE WITH THE 90 DAYS.
11:21:07 CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN?
11:21:08 >> THE REASON I CHOSE 60 IS BECAUSE THERE IS A FLORIDA
11:21:11 STATUTE THAT PROVIDES THAT IF A LEASE INCLUDES A PROVISION
11:21:17 STATING THAT A LANDLORD OR A TENANT HAS TO GIVE NOTICE TO
11:21:21 TERMINATE A LEASE, THAT NOTICE PERIOD CANNOT BE MORE THAN 60
11:21:25 DAYS.
11:21:25 SO BASICALLY, FLORIDA STATUTES IS LIMITING THE TIME PERIOD
11:21:30 TO PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE OTHER PERSON TO TERMINATE A LEASE.
11:21:36 SO RAISING THE RENT IS BASICALLY AN OFFER TO RENEW A LEASE
11:21:44 AT THE END OF THE TERM.
11:21:46 THEREFORE, I EQUATE THAT TO THE 60-DAY NOTICE PERIOD.
11:21:50 SO AS A LANDLORD, IF YOU HAVE TO GIVE NOTICE TO RENEW A
11:21:53 LEASE, IT CAN ONLY BE 60 DAYS.
11:21:55 THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT OF THAT.
11:21:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:22:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:22:05 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
11:22:06 THERE MAY BE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WANT TO SPEAK.
11:22:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:22:13 >> THANK YOU.
11:22:13 GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
11:22:17 MY NAME IS ERIC GARDUNO.
11:22:20 MY ADDRESS IS P.O. BOX 151958, TAMPA, 33684.
11:22:23 I AM THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS DIRECTOR FOR THE BAY AREA
11:22:26 APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
11:22:27 WE REPRESENT THE APARTMENT INDUSTRY AND THE GREATER TAMPA
11:22:30 BAY REGION.
11:22:30 THE ORDINANCE COVERS TWO MAIN TOPICS.
11:22:34 FIRST REQUIRES LANDLORDS TO PROVIDE A 60-DAY NOTICE FOR RENT
11:22:37 INCREASES AND LEASE AGREEMENTS WITH A SPECIFIC TERM.
11:22:39 THIS WOULD APPLY TO YOUR STANDARD ONE LEASE AGREEMENT.
11:22:43 WE APPRECIATE THAT THE LENGTH OF THIS NOTICE WAS SET AT 60
11:22:46 DAYS, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH STATE LAW.
11:22:48 AND ALSO DISTRICT PRACTICE.
11:22:51 LEASE RENEWAL OFFERS TYPICALLY WILL BE SENT OUT 30, 60 DAYS
11:22:56 AHEAD OF TIME PLUS 15 DAY SORT OF WINDOW THAT'S REQUIRED
11:22:59 UNDER STATE LAW.
11:23:00 LARGELY, WE'RE ALREADY COMPLYING WITH WHAT IS REQUIRED UNDER
11:23:05 THE ORDINANCE OR THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
11:23:06 SECOND, IN THE CASE OF MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASES, THE ORDINANCE,
11:23:10 AS NOTED, DOES REQUIRE TENANTS AND LANDLORDS PROVIDE 30
11:23:14 DAYS' NOTICE OF LEASE TRANSFORMATION PRIOR TO THE END OF THE
11:23:17 RENTAL TERM.
11:23:17 I WANT TO COME BACK TO THAT IN A SECOND.
11:23:19 AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK, AS NOTED EARLIER, WE SENT IN A
11:23:23 LETTER WITH VARIOUS SUGGESTIONS AND WOULD CERTAINLY
11:23:27 APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THEM.
11:23:30 CITY ATTORNEY HAS RUN THROUGH ALL OF THEM, BUT I'LL JUST
11:23:34 BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THEM AS WELL.
11:23:35 FIRST, BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE SEEMS TO APPLY TO EXISTING
11:23:38 LEASES, BUT MAYBE NOT.
11:23:40 THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY APPLY TO THEM.
11:23:43 BUT IF IT DOES, IT MAY RUN AFOUL OF CONSTITUTIONAL
11:23:46 PROTECTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THE OBLIGATION OF CONTRACTS.
11:23:49 AND THIS CAN BE ADDRESSED BY APPLYING THE REQUIREMENTS OF
11:23:52 THE ORDINANCE TO MAKING IT VERY CLEAR THAT THEY APPLY IT TO
11:23:56 LEASES GOING FORWARD.
11:23:58 AND THAT, I THINK, WOULD CERTAINLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND I
11:24:00 THINK IN LINE WITH WHAT I HEARD, BUT, OF COURSE, WE CAN
11:24:04 CIRCLE BACK ON THAT.
11:24:05 SECOND, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF FEDERAL PROGRAMS, WHICH WE'VE
11:24:09 TALKED ABOUT, AND THAT DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON NOTICE, BUT
11:24:12 I'D ALSO SAY PROCESS, BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE ALSO LISTS OUT A
11:24:17 VERY SPECIFIC PROCESS, WHICH ISN'T NECESSARILY IN LINE WITH
11:24:19 ALL THE DIFFERENT FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT ARE REQUIRED OR THAT
11:24:23 HOUSING PROVIDERS ENGAGE IN.
11:24:24 SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AND TO AVOID CONFLICT
11:24:27 THERE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER EXCLUDING THOSE TYPES OF
11:24:32 FEDERAL PROGRAMS.
11:24:33 AND THEN, THIRD, ON THE MONTH-TO-MONTH NOTICE.
11:24:36 AGAIN, JUST TO UNDERSCORE STATE LAW PEGS THE NOTICE
11:24:41 REQUIREMENT AT THE END OF THE LEASE TERM.
11:24:44 SO RIGHT NOW UNDER STATE LAW, IT'S 15 DAYS.
11:24:46 THIS ORDINANCE PROPOSES TO EXTEND THAT TO 30 DAYS.
11:24:50 IF YOU EXTEND IT TO 30 DAYS, THAT MEANS BY AND LARGE YOU'RE
11:24:54 REALLY MAKING MONTHLONG LEASES TWO MONTH LONG LEASES.
11:24:59 THE TENANTS THAT WE WORK WITH, THE RESIDENTS WE HAVE, WE DO
11:25:03 HAVE A NUMBER THAT WANT THE FLEXIBILITY THAT STATE LAW
11:25:06 PROVIDES, THESE LEASES TO GET OUT OF IT BY THE END OF THE
11:25:11 MONTH.
11:25:11 SO BY MOVING THIS DATE TO 30 DAYS, YOU REALLY DON'T GIVE
11:25:16 THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT OF THE LEASE.
11:25:18 THEY REALLY ARE, IN MOST CASES, EITHER NOT GOING TO BE ABLE
11:25:21 TO PROVIDE THE REQUIRED NOTICE IN THE SAME MONTH OR IF YOU
11:25:24 DO, SAY, 31-DAY, YOU HAVE ONE-DAY WINDOW TO DO THAT.
11:25:29 IN REALITY, YOU REALLY, I THINK IF YOU GO FORWARD WITH 30,
11:25:34 THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO WOULD LIKE
11:25:38 TO BE ABLE TO EXIT OUT OF THEIR LEASE BY THE END OF THE
11:25:41 MONTH.
11:25:41 I THINK I'M OUT OF TIME.
11:25:43 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CONSIDERING OUR IDEAS HERE AND HAPPY
11:25:47 TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:25:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:25:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAUGHT IT ALL UNTIL THE LAST PART.
11:25:51 YOU THREW ME A CURVEBALL AND I WASN'T PREPARED FOR IT.
11:25:54 30 DAYS, YOU SAID IF YOU HAVE 30 DAYS AND YOU DO WHAT WE
11:26:00 WANT, IT WILL BE REALLY A 60 DAY NOTICE CONTRACT, AM I
11:26:05 RIGHT?
11:26:05 HOWEVER, IF THAT PERSON THAT HAS A 30 DAY LEASE WHEN HE
11:26:09 COMES AND SAYS "I'M LEAVING" THEN NOTHING HAPPENS.
11:26:11 IT ENDS IN 30 DAYS.
11:26:14 >> AGAIN, THE LEASE NOTICE, AS IT STANDS, WHETHER IT'S UNDER
11:26:20 STATE OR THE EXTENSION HERE, IS PRIOR TO THE END OF THE
11:26:23 LEASE TERM.
11:26:24 IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A PARTICULAR MONTH AS AN EXAMPLE, I
11:26:27 THINK THIS MONTH HAS 31 DAYS, RIGHT?
11:26:29 ON MAY 1st, YOU COULD HAVE GIVEN THE NOTICE UNDER THIS
11:26:36 ORDINANCE, GIVEN THE NOTICE AND THEN YOU WOULD BE FINE AND
11:26:43 ABLE TO END THE LEASE AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
11:26:45 IF YOU GAVE MAY 2nd IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, YOU
11:26:50 WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE THE NOTICE.
11:26:52 IF YOUR MONTH IS 30 DAY MONTH OR FEBRUARY, 28 DAY MONTH, YOU
11:26:56 HAVE TO GIVE NOTICE THE MONTH BEFORE TO ACTUALLY EFFECT THE
11:27:02 TERMINATION OF THE LEASE.
11:27:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE TO A POINT AND I'M NOT AN
11:27:06 ATTORNEY.
11:27:06 THERE ARE TWO PARTIES TO THIS LEASE.
11:27:08 PARTY A, THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE CONTRACT OWNER, AND THE
11:27:12 PARTY WHO IS LEASING THE APARTMENT OR RENTING THE APARTMENT
11:27:16 OR WHATEVER IT IS.
11:27:17 SO IF THAT INDIVIDUAL TURNS IT IN WITHIN THAT 30 DAYS, THEN
11:27:22 IT ENDS ON THE 30th DAY.
11:27:24 THEY GOT TO GO 60 DAYS?
11:27:28 >> YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST THE 30 DAYS' NOTICE.
11:27:30 YOU HAVE TO DO IT BEFORE THE 30 DAY, THAT 30-DAY PERIOD.
11:27:34 RIGHT NOW IT IS A 15-DAY PERIOD.
11:27:35 FOR MOST MONTHS, YOU CAN GIVE NOTICE, FIRST AND MOST OF THAT
11:27:39 SECOND WEEK AND BE FINE.
11:27:41 BUT WITH THIS, YOU HAVE TO GIVE NOTICE WITH 30 DAYS, SO
11:27:47 YOU'RE LOSING THAT ABILITY.
11:27:50 FOR THE TENANTS WHO WANT TO EXIT THE LEASE AND WE'RE TALKING
11:27:53 ABOUT TENANTS WHO JUST MOVED TO THE AREA AND FOUND SOMETHING
11:27:55 REALLY QUICK OR TENANTS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR A HOUSE AND THEY
11:27:58 JUST FOUND ONE AND THEY ARE READY TO GET OUT, THEY HAVE TO
11:28:00 GIVE NOTICE BEFORE THOSE 30 DAYS IN WHICH CASE IN SOME
11:28:05 MONTHS IT'S GOING TO BE THE MONTH PRIOR, THAT WILL BE THE
11:28:10 ONLY WINDOW.
11:28:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS THAT THE EXCEPTION OR THE RULE?
11:28:13 >> I THINK THERE ARE MORE MONTHS --
11:28:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAVE THE INTELLECTUAL
11:28:18 KNOWLEDGE OF LEASING; WE DON'T.
11:28:20 SO ON YOUR EXPERIENCE IS THAT THE EXCEPTION TO OR IS THAT
11:28:26 THE RULE THAT YOU'RE APPLYING THAT YOU THINK IS GOING TO
11:28:28 HAPPEN?
11:28:30 >> I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
11:28:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY
11:28:33 BECAUSE OF YOUR VAST KNOWLEDGE OF HAVING YOUR CLIENTS, WHAT
11:28:39 YOU JUST STATED ABOUT, IF YOU DON'T DO THIS BY A CERTAIN
11:28:42 DAY, IT'S NOT 30 DAYS, IT'S 60 DAYS.
11:28:44 WHAT I'M ASKING IS BY YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR INSTITUTIONAL
11:28:48 ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND FROM THE PAST TO PRESENT, IF YOU WERE
11:28:52 LOOKING BACK, HOW DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE 50% OF THE PEOPLE
11:28:57 WOULD BE MORE TO THE 60 DAYS OR 35%?
11:28:59 I DON'T KNOW THAT.
11:29:01 I DON'T THINK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW THAT.
11:29:03 >> I DON'T KNOW IF WE NECESSARILY HAVE TAKEN A SURVEY OR A
11:29:05 POLL OF THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WHO HAVE UTILIZED THIS.
11:29:09 I DO KNOW FROM CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH MULTIPLE MEMBERS
11:29:11 THAT THIS IS AN OFTEN ASKED FOR REQUEST BY RESIDENTS.
11:29:16 AGAIN, NEW RESIDENTS TO OUR AREA, ESPECIALLY THESE DAYS,
11:29:21 REQUESTS BY PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR A HOME, PEOPLE WHO
11:29:24 ARE ON ASSIGNMENT BY JOB, FOR TEMPORARY TIME, NOT TO HAVE A
11:29:28 LONG LEASE AND TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO GET OUT EASILY.
11:29:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, THEY BETTER READ THE CONTRACT THEN.
11:29:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:29:41 THANK YOU.
11:29:41 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:29:46 >>THE CLERK: NO.
11:29:47 THE ONE PERSON REGISTERED WAS ERIC GARDUNO, BUT HE SHOWED UP
11:29:52 IN PERSON.
11:29:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS MAYBE OUT OF THE REALM A LITTLE
11:29:58 BIT.
11:29:58 DO WE HAVE ANYTHING POSSIBLE WITH THESE CONTRACTS WRITTEN IN
11:30:03 ONE LANGUAGE WHICH SHOULD BE AND THEN WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE
11:30:05 COMING INTO THIS AREA THAT ARE NOT -- THEY DON'T SPEAK THE
11:30:09 ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND DON'T READ IT FROM WHATEVER COUNTRY
11:30:12 THEY COME FROM, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THERE THAT SOMEBODY HAS
11:30:15 GOT TO EXPLAIN IT TO THESE PERSONS WHAT IT IS THAT THEY ARE
11:30:17 SIGNING?
11:30:19 >> WE HAVE NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE THAT ADVISING
11:30:24 PEOPLE TO GET LEGAL ADVICE.
11:30:30 >>MORRIS MASSEY: IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN PURSUING THAT, WE
11:30:34 MAY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
11:30:36 I THINK THERE ARE STATUTORY PROVISIONS --
11:30:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST THOUGHT OF IT NOW.
11:30:39 >>MORRIS MASSEY: -- YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THE LEGISLATURE HAS
11:30:43 MANDATED THAT WE USE ENGLISH.
11:30:45 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE CAN MANDATE ALTERNATIVE LANGUAGE.
11:30:49 WE ARE DOING A TENANT BILL OF RIGHTS IN SPANISH AND ENGLISH.
11:30:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE REASON I ASK THAT, I'VE HAD NOW THREE
11:31:00 CASES IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS THAT HAVE SIGNED THOSE
11:31:05 CONTRACTS THAT YOU ASKED.
11:31:12 REVERSE MORTGAGES, AND THESE PEOPLE REALLY NEED HELP.
11:31:15 IT IS WHAT IT IS.
11:31:16 TWO OF THEM HAVE TOLD ME THE TIME THEY SIGN, THEY DON'T
11:31:21 SPEAK OR WRITE THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE.
11:31:23 THANK YOU.
11:31:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:31:27 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A RESPONSE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA,
11:31:32 I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO ASK STAFF TO LOOK INTO
11:31:35 THAT AS A SEPARATE TOPIC BECAUSE IT SHOULD APPLY TO
11:31:38 EVERYTHING ABOUT TENANT CONTRACT, SO IF YOU MAKE A MOTION
11:31:41 LATER TO HAVE STAFF LOOK INTO --
11:31:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE'LL DO IT AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
11:31:46 >>BILL CARLSON: -- HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT.
11:31:49 >> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE POINT THAT HE HAD, IF I MAY.
11:31:53 THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THIS APPLIES TO EXISTING
11:31:58 LEASES.
11:31:58 APPLIES TO EXISTING LEASES IN THE WAY THAT IF YOU CURRENTLY
11:32:03 HAVE A LEASE AND YOUR LANDLORD IS GOING TO RAISE THE RENT,
11:32:08 THEN THAT LANDLORD CURRENTLY WILL HAVE TO GIVE YOU 60 DAYS'
11:32:12 NOTICE.
11:32:13 SO IT APPLIES TO LEASES IN THAT WAY, BUT MY ARGUMENT ABOUT
11:32:17 IT'S NOT IMPAIRMENT IS IT'S NOT PRECLUDING ANY OBLIGATIONS
11:32:21 UNDER YOUR CURRENT LEASE.
11:32:23 THIS IS REGARDING THE OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE NOTICE FOR THE
11:32:27 NEXT LEASE.
11:32:28 HOWEVER, IT DOES APPLY TO EXISTING LEASES THAT ARE IN EFFECT
11:32:34 NOW THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO GIVE YOU 60 DAYS' NOTICE TO RAISE
11:32:37 THE RENT AT THE END OF THE TERM.
11:32:38 I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
11:32:42 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:32:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:32:46 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:32:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:32:49 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:32:55 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DID YOU WANT TO READ IT?
11:32:58 IT WAS YOURS.
11:32:59 ARE YOU SURE?
11:33:00 OKAY.
11:33:00 WE'RE ON 46.
11:33:02 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:33:05 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
11:33:07 AMENDING THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 12 TO
11:33:11 ADD SECTION 12-146 AND SECTION 12-147; INCREASING THE
11:33:16 NOTIFICATION PERIOD FOR MONTH-TO-MONTH RESIDENTIAL LEASES TO
11:33:19 30 DAYS; PROVIDING FOR A REQUIREMENT THAT LANDLORDS PROVIDE
11:33:22 60 DAYS' PRIOR WRITTEN NOTICE OF A RENTAL INCREASE FOR
11:33:26 RESIDENTIAL LEASES; PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES
11:33:28 FOR VIOLATIONS; AMENDING SECTION 19.4-SUBSECTION A AND
11:33:34 12.3-5 SUBSECTION D, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
11:33:39 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
11:33:43 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:33:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:33:46 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:33:49 ROLL CALL?
11:33:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:33:51 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:33:51 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:33:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:33:53 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:33:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:33:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:33:56 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:33:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:33:59 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 47, FILE TA/CPA 21-23.
11:34:08 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:34:10 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I COULD JUST STATE, SEVERAL OF THESE
11:34:13 COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND I WERE ABSENT AND WE WERE ASKED TO
11:34:16 REVIEW THE RECORD.
11:34:17 I WATCHED ALL THE VIDEO AND LOOKED AT THE FILES ON ALL OF
11:34:20 THESE.
11:34:21 SO PREPARED TO VOTE.
11:34:22 THANK YOU.
11:34:31 >>JENNIFER MALONE: HERE TO PRESENT ON THE SECOND READING OF
11:34:35 21-23.
11:34:36 ADOPTION HEARING FOR LANGUAGE RELATED TO THE COASTAL HIGH
11:34:38 HAZARD AREA IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
11:34:40 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:34:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MALONE?
11:34:44 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:34:52 >>MORRIS MASSEY: JUST WANTED TO NOTE THERE IS A SUBSTITUTE
11:34:54 ORDINANCE.
11:34:56 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:34:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:34:58 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:35:01 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:35:02 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, COULD YOU READ THE SUBSTITUTE,
11:35:04 PLEASE.
11:35:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:35:06 I HAVE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:35:08 READING AND ADOPTION.
11:35:09 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
11:35:13 PLAN, COASTAL MANAGEMENT ELEMENT TO AMEND COASTAL MANAGEMENT
11:35:16 ELEMENT POLICY 1.1.2, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES
11:35:21 IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
11:35:24 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:35:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:35:26 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:35:28 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:35:29 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:35:29 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:35:31 FEUDS GUDES YES.
11:35:32 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:35:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:35:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:35:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:35:36 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:35:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:35:38 ITEM NUMBER 48, FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 21-24.
11:35:44 MS. MALONE.
11:35:45 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
11:35:48 JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGAIN.
11:35:50 THIS ITEM IS ADOPTING THE NEW COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA MAP
11:35:54 INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THIS IS UP FOR SECOND
11:35:58 READING AND ADOPTION.
11:35:59 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:36:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR MS. MALONE?
11:36:04 PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:36:07 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:36:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:36:10 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:36:11 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:36:12 THANK YOU.
11:36:13 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:36:15 >>LYNN HURTAK: ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
11:36:19 AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA
11:36:24 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, TO UPDATE THE
11:36:28 FUTURE LAND USE MAP (FLUM) AND COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA
11:36:33 (CHHA) PUBLIC ACCESS MAP; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
11:36:36 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND
11:36:39 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:36:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN HURTAK.
11:36:45 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:36:46 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:36:46 EXCUSE ME.
11:36:51 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:36:52 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:36:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:36:54 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:36:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:36:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:36:56 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:36:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:37:00 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:37:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM 49, TA/CPA 21-31.
11:37:10 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE AGAIN WITH THE PLANNING
11:37:11 COMMISSION.
11:37:12 21-31 IS PART OF THE PARK -- THE PROJECT TO MAKE SURE MOST
11:37:16 OF THE PARKS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE UNDER RECREATIONAL
11:37:19 OPEN SPACE, SO THIS WOULD JUST TAKE THIS INTERBAY POOL FROM
11:37:25 PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE.
11:37:30 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:37:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:37:31 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:37:33 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:37:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:37:38 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:37:39 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:37:39 ANY OPPOSED?
11:37:41 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:37:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE TA/CPA 21-31.
11:37:48 ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:37:51 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
11:37:54 PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE
11:37:57 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4321 WEST ESTRELLA STREET, OTHERWISE
11:38:00 KNOWN AS INTERBAY POOL, FROM PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC TO
11:38:04 RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
11:38:07 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
11:38:09 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:38:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:38:14 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:38:16 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:38:17 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:38:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:38:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:38:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:38:21 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:38:22 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:38:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:38:23 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:38:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:38:27 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 50, FILE TA/CPA 21-32, MS. MALONE.
11:38:33 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU.
11:38:36 JENNIFER MALONE AGAIN.
11:38:37 THIS IS ANOTHER PARK AT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
11:38:40 RECREATIONAL COMPLEX BEFORE YOU FROM NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED
11:38:42 USE-35 TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE.
11:38:46 I AM STILL AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
11:38:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR MS. MALONE?
11:38:49 IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:38:55 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:38:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:38:58 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:39:00 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:39:00 THANK YOU.
11:39:02 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:39:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:39:05 FINAL NUMBER 50, TA/CPA 21-32, MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING
11:39:12 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:39:13 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
11:39:18 PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE
11:39:20 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2200 NORTH OREGON AVENUE, OTHERWISE
11:39:24 KNOWN AS DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING RECREATION COMPLEX FROM
11:39:28 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE-35 (NMU-35) TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN
11:39:34 SPACE (R/OS); PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
11:39:38 CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
11:39:41 DATE.
11:39:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:39:43 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:39:45 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:39:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:39:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:39:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:39:50 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:39:51 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:39:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:39:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:39:53 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:39:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:39:56 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 51, FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 21-33.
11:40:01 MS. MALONE.
11:40:02 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU.
11:40:04 AGAIN, JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:40:06 THIS IS USF PARK GOING FROM PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC TO
11:40:10 RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE.
11:40:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MALONE?
11:40:14 IS THERE ANYBODY -- PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:40:18 >> NOBODY REGISTERED.
11:40:19 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:40:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:40:21 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:40:22 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:40:23 ANY OPPOSED?
11:40:24 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:40:26 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.
11:40:28 THANK YOU.
11:40:28 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE TA/CPA 21-33, ORDINANCE BEING
11:40:32 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
11:40:34 AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE
11:40:37 LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY
11:40:39 LOCATED AT 225 SOUTH ASHLEY DRIVE OTHERWISE KNOWN AS USF
11:40:43 PARK FROM PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC (P/QP) TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN
11:40:48 SPACE (R/OS), PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
11:40:54 CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR
11:40:58 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:40:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:40:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:41:01 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:41:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:41:02 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:41:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:41:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:41:06 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:41:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:41:09 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU.
11:41:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. MALONE.
11:41:11 NEED A MOTION TO OPEN ITEM -- OKAY.
11:41:16 WE DID IT ALL.
11:41:16 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I DO THINK YOU NEED TO SWEAR IN ALL
11:41:19 WITNESSES AT THIS POINT.
11:41:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:41:20 IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT IS GOING TO BE GIVING COMMENT OR
11:41:29 EVIDENCE TO TODAY, WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE TO BE SWORN IN.
11:41:36 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
11:41:45 ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO BE GIVING EVIDENCE IN TODAY'S
11:42:02 HEARINGS, CAN YOU PLEASE BE SWORN IN?
11:42:05 ONLINE?
11:42:06 >>THE CLERK: ONLINE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT-HAND.
11:42:08 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT
11:42:12 TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
11:42:14 THANK YOU.
11:42:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:42:16 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 52, FILE AB2-20-11.
11:42:25 >>ANNIE BARNES: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:42:26 ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:42:28 ITEM 52 IS AB2-20-11 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:42:33 ADOPTION FOR 703 NORTH WILLOW AVENUE.
11:42:35 THE REQUEST IS A SPECIAL USE FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES
11:42:38 FOR A SMALL VENUE, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, FOR CONSUMPTION ON
11:42:42 PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES FOR OFF PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
11:42:45 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AT CITY HALL YESTERDAY.
11:42:48 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:42:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
11:42:51 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:42:56 OKAY.
11:42:59 THE APPLICANT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS?
11:43:02 NO ONE ONLINE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
11:43:09 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:43:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:43:12 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:43:15 I BELIEVE WE LEFT OFF AT MS. HURTAK.
11:43:20 I'M SORRY.
11:43:21 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:43:22 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
11:43:23 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:43:25 ADOPTION.
11:43:26 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT (S-2) FOR
11:43:29 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE (CONSUMPTION ON
11:43:33 PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES/OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION) AND
11:43:37 MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC
11:43:40 CONTENT, BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR
11:43:44 TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 703 NORTH WILLOW AVENUE, TAMPA,
11:43:48 FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2,
11:43:50 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
11:43:52 CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:43:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MY COUNCILMAN VIERA AND SECONDED BY
11:43:57 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:43:57 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:43:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:43:57 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:44:00 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:44:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:44:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:44:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:44:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
11:44:05 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO VOTING NO.
11:44:09 THANK YOU, AGENDA ITEM 53, FILE VAC-22-07.
11:44:17 HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?
11:44:20 >> I HAVE.
11:44:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:44:21 >> ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, PRESENTING FILE
11:44:26 VAC-22-07 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:44:30 PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OR
11:44:33 ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF IDA STREET, NORTH OF DR. MARTIN
11:44:38 LUTHER KING BOULEVARD, EAST OF 26th STREET AND WEST OF
11:44:41 27th AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF NORTH CAMPOBELLO, A
11:44:45 SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:44:46 AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:44:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:44:52 IS THE PETITIONER HERE?
11:44:54 PUBLIC COMMENTS?
11:45:01 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:45:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:45:04 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:45:06 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:45:06 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:45:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I HAVE AN ORDINANCE
11:45:13 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:45:15 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,
11:45:17 CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING A
11:45:19 RIGHT-OF-WAY/ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF IDA STREET, NORTH OF
11:45:24 DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD, EAST OF 26th STREET AND
11:45:27 WEST OF 27th AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF NORTH CAMPOBELLO, A
11:45:31 SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
11:45:33 FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF,
11:45:35 SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS
11:45:38 MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR
11:45:41 ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR
11:45:43 DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICTS,
11:45:46 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:45:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:45:51 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:45:53 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:45:55 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:45:56 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:45:58 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:45:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:45:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:46:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:46:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:46:03 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:46:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:46:06 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 54, FILE REZ-21-135.
11:46:11 PETITIONER?
11:46:12 EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.
11:46:15 MS. BARNES.
11:46:16 >>ANNIE BARNES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:46:18 ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:46:20 ITEM NUMBER 54 IS REZ-21-135 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:46:25 READING AND ADOPTION FOR 3218 WEST PAUL AVENUE.
11:46:29 THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS-60 TO RS-50.
11:46:33 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
11:46:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:46:36 PETITIONER?
11:46:41 >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE
11:46:44 PETITIONER. THIS PETITION WAS FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT BY THE
11:46:46 PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:46:47 THE CITY STAFF, THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS, AND WE WOULD
11:46:50 RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:46:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:46:54 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
11:46:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:46:56 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:46:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:47:00 SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:47:03 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:47:04 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:47:07 >>LYNN HURTAK: ORDINANCE -- FILE NUMBER REZ-21-135,
11:47:14 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:47:17 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:47:20 3218 WEST PAUL AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
11:47:23 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
11:47:26 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY)
11:47:32 TO RS-50, (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) PROVIDING AN
11:47:36 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:47:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:47:40 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:47:42 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:47:43 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:47:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:47:45 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:47:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:47:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:47:49 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:47:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:47:51 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:47:54 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:47:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 55, FILE NUMBER
11:47:58 REZ-22-04.
11:48:01 MS. BARNES.
11:48:02 >>ANNIE BARNES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:48:05 ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:48:07 ITEM NUMBER 55 IS REZ-22-O 4 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:48:13 READING AND ADOPTION FOR 2303 NORTH JEFFERSON AVENUE.
11:48:17 THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RM-24,
11:48:21 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO PD TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT OF
11:48:24 THE PROPERTY WITH RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES.
11:48:27 THE SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AT CITY HALL YESTERDAY.
11:48:30 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:48:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS FOR MRS. BARNES?
11:48:35 PETITIONER?
11:48:39 >> CHRIS BECKWITH, APPLICANT, HERE FOR THE SECOND READING.
11:48:41 THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS ON THE FIRST READING.
11:48:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:48:45 ANYONE ONLINE?
11:48:48 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
11:48:49 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:48:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:48:52 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:48:53 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:48:53 THANK YOU.
11:48:55 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:48:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: REZ-22-04, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
11:49:02 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:49:03 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:49:05 2303 NORTH JEFFERSON STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
11:49:08 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
11:49:12 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-24, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO
11:49:15 PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
11:49:17 DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:49:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:49:21 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:49:23 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:49:24 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:49:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:49:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:49:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:49:28 >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
11:49:30 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:49:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:49:32 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
11:49:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:49:38 FILE NUMBER 56 -- EXCUSE ME, ITEM NUMBER 56, FILE NUMBER
11:49:44 REZ-21-129.
11:49:50 >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:49:51 ITEM NUMBER 56 IS REZ 21-129 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:49:56 READING AND ADOPTION FOR 105, 107, AND 109 EAST 26th
11:50:01 AVENUE.
11:50:02 THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS 50
11:50:06 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RM-18, RESIDENTIAL,
11:50:09 MULTIFAMILY.
11:50:10 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
11:50:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
11:50:14 PETITIONER?
11:50:17 >> YES, SIR.
11:50:18 GOOD MORNING.
11:50:19 PEDRO RODRIGUEZ FOR THE APPLICANT.
11:50:21 WE HAD A HEARING ON APRIL 28.
11:50:24 THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS.
11:50:25 THE PETITION MET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
11:50:30 SO WE'RE HERE SEEKING APPROVAL OF THE PETITION.
11:50:32 THANK YOU.
11:50:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:50:37 >>THE CLERK: NOBODY REGISTERED.
11:50:38 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:50:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO
11:50:42 CLOSE.
11:50:42 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:50:44 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:50:44 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:50:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:50:49 ITEM NUMBER 56, REZ-21-129, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
11:50:54 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:50:55 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:50:57 105, 107, AND 109 EAST 26th AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:51:01 FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
11:51:04 ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL,
11:51:07 SINGLE-FAMILY) TO RM-18 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY);
11:51:11 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:51:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:51:15 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:51:16 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:51:20 >>THE CLERK: ROLL CALL.
11:51:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL.
11:51:21 I'M SORRY.
11:51:22 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:51:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:51:24 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:51:24 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:51:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:51:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:51:28 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:51:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:51:30 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:51:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO NICE WHEN WE GO BACK TO PUSHING BUTTONS
11:51:36 AGAIN.
11:51:36 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:51:37 HAVE A GOOD DAY.
11:51:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 57, FILE NUMBER
11:51:42 AB2-22-06.
11:51:46 MS. BARNES.
11:51:46 >>ANNIE BARNES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:51:49 ITEM NUMBER 57 IS AB2-22-06 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:51:54 READING AND ADOPTION FOR 3615 AND 3617 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD.
11:51:59 THE REQUEST IS FOR A SPECIAL USE FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
11:52:02 SALES FOR A LARGE VENUE, BEER, WINE, LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON
11:52:05 PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES FOR OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
11:52:09 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AT CITY HALL YESTERDAY.
11:52:11 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:52:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
11:52:14 PETITIONER?
11:52:16 >> DAVID SMITH, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET FOR THE APPLICANT.
11:52:20 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, RECOMMENDATIONS, AND
11:52:23 CONSISTENCY FINDINGS BY STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:52:25 THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS AT THE HEARING.
11:52:27 REQUEST YOUR -- RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:52:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS?
11:52:34 >>MORRIS MASSEY: IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AT ALL?
11:52:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, I'LL GO THERE.
11:52:38 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS?
11:52:40 I KNOW WE HAVE MS. STROHMEYER ON THE LINE.
11:52:43 MS. STROHMEYER, ARE YOU THERE?
11:52:49 >> HELLO?
11:52:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HI THERE.
11:52:51 CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR VIDEO, PLEASE?
11:52:54 >> OH, YEAH.
11:52:55 TURN ON MY CAM.
11:52:57 HELLO?
11:53:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE SEE YOU.
11:53:02 >> HI.
11:53:02 JEAN STROHMEYER HERE TALKING ABOUT ON NUMBER 56 --
11:53:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. STROHMEYER, CAN YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT
11:53:07 HAND, PLEASE?
11:53:09 >> YES.
11:53:10 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
11:53:12 YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
11:53:15 >> YES, I DO.
11:53:16 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
11:53:19 >> MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER.
11:53:20 I JUST REGISTERED TO TALK ON NUMBER 56, WHICH IS -- NO, 57,
11:53:24 RIGHT?
11:53:24 57, AND THAT IS THE PUBLIX GOING TO HAVE THE ON PREMISE BAR,
11:53:36 IF YOU WILL.
11:53:37 I HAVE TO SAY THAT IS THE BEST IDEA EVER.
11:53:39 I HAVE BEEN TO SUN CITY, ARIZONA, AND I GOT TO RIDE THE GOLF
11:53:43 CART FROM THE HOUSE WE RENTED ON THE GOLF COURSE, AND GOT TO
11:53:47 DRIVE THE GOLF CART TO THE GROCERY STORE AND YOU'RE SITTING
11:53:53 AT THE GROCERY STORE, THERE IS A NICE LITTLE COCKTAIL
11:53:56 LOUNGE, WHATEVER.
11:53:58 SOME FOLKS ARE SHOPPING, AND YOU CAN JUST SIT THERE AND THEN
11:54:00 DRIVE YOUR GOLF CART BACK HOME WITH YOUR GROCERIES.
11:54:04 I THINK PUBLIX DID A GREAT JOB AND THANK GOD THAT'S MY
11:54:07 PUBLIX AND I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THEY REOPEN AGAIN.
11:54:10 ONLY BEEN TO PUBLIX THREE TIMES BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ONE
11:54:13 RIGHT HERE AND I DON'T LIKE ANY OTHER PUBLIX BUT THIS ONE.
11:54:16 THIS ONE I WOULD LIKE A LOT BETTER.
11:54:17 GOOD JOB, PUBLIX.
11:54:18 THANK YOU, THAT'S IT.
11:54:19 I'M FOR THIS.
11:54:22 YAY.
11:54:22 THAT'S IT.
11:54:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:54:26 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE ELSE IS REGISTERED.
11:54:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:54:28 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:54:33 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO STATE FOR THE RECORD, BEFORE IT
11:54:37 CLOSED, ALSO THE PRIMARY PUBLIX I GO TO AND IN MY
11:54:40 NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I'M FARTHER THAN THE NOTICE PERIOD, SO I
11:54:43 DON'T THINK I HAVE A CONFLICT BUT I WANTED TO DISCLOSE THAT
11:54:45 I HAVE SHOPPED THERE.
11:54:51 >> THAT'S SUSPICIOUS TO ME.
11:54:54 [ LAUGHTER ]
11:54:54 >>MORRIS MASSEY: JUST FOR THE RECORD, THERE'S NO CONFLICT.
11:54:56 YOU CAN VOTE ON THIS.
11:54:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU DON'T HAVE TO TURN RED.
11:54:59 [ LAUGHTER ]
11:55:01 >>BILL CARLSON: WE WILL ALL BE HAVING PARTIES THERE, RIGHT?
11:55:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU AND A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE.
11:55:06 MOTION TO CLOSE, PLEASE.
11:55:07 >> SO MOVED.
11:55:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:55:12 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:55:13 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:55:14 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:55:18 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:55:22 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE AB2-22-06, ORDINANCE BEING
11:55:27 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:55:28 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR
11:55:31 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
11:55:35 PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES/OFF PREMISES CONSUMPTION AND
11:55:39 MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC
11:55:42 CONTENT, BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR
11:55:46 TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 3615/3617 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD,
11:55:50 TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 4,
11:55:53 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
11:55:56 CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 9429-A AND
11:56:00 RESCINDING SPECIAL USE 1 (S-1) V11-401; PROVIDING AN
11:56:07 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:56:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:56:11 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:56:13 ANY DISCUSSION?
11:56:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:56:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:56:22 AS THE RECORD REFLECTS, I VOTED NO ON THIS LAST TIME.
11:56:25 I STILL HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS.
11:56:32 I'M SURE THIS PUBLIC KNOWS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF
11:56:36 UNDER A MICROSCOPE FOR THIS AREA, BUT I HAVE CHANGED MY
11:56:41 OPINION, AND I WILL BE VOTING YES ON THIS.
11:56:47 BUT LET'S JUST SEE WHERE THIS GOES.
11:56:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHERE IT GOES?
11:56:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I KNOW IT WILL GO THERE.
11:56:55 LET'S SEE HOW THIS SIP AND SHOP GOES.
11:56:58 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:57:01 MS. HURTAK.
11:57:04 >>LYNN HURTAK: IT MIGHT BE THE FIRST IN TAMPA, BUT IT'S KIND
11:57:07 OF EVERYWHERE ELSE.
11:57:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE HAVE BEEN -- ANYWAYS.
11:57:12 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:57:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:57:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YEP.
11:57:19 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:57:20 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:57:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:57:22 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:57:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:57:25 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:57:28 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MENTION ONE MORE THING, PLEASE?
11:57:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:57:31 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
11:57:32 IT'S VERY -- THIS IS JUST A NOTE FOR TRANSPORTATION AND
11:57:37 MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
11:57:38 PLEASE, IS THERE ANY WAY TO CREATE A LIGHT OR SOME KIND OF
11:57:41 DIFFERENT SITUATION THERE?
11:57:42 IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET BACK OUT ON GANDY.
11:57:45 PEOPLE CUT FROM TARGET CUT THROUGH TARGET TO GET TO HIMES.
11:57:49 NOW THAT IS BLOCKED OFF AND BIG TRAFFIC JAM GETTING OUT TO
11:57:52 GO ONTO GANDY, TAKING A LEFT ESPECIALLY.
11:57:55 BUT WHEN PUBLIX OPENS BACK UP AND IT'S BIGGER AND BETTER,
11:57:58 IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY CROWDED.
11:58:00 I JUST THROW THAT OUT AS A NOTE, ESPECIALLY IF PEOPLE ARE
11:58:03 DRINKING AND TRYING TO GET OUT WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE
11:58:06 DRIVING.
11:58:06 THANK YOU.
11:58:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, DID YOU WANT TO SAY
11:58:19 ANYTHING.
11:58:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I GUESS WE HAVE TO MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM
11:58:22 58 TO JUNE 2nd.
11:58:24 IS THAT CORRECT?
11:58:27 >> REBECCA JOHNS, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
11:58:30 WHEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING WAS SCHEDULED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT
11:58:33 AGREEMENT, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN THE SECOND READING OF THE
11:58:37 VACATION ORDINANCE WOULD BE, AND THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
11:58:42 IMPLEMENTS OBLIGATIONS THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE ONCE THE
11:58:46 ROADWAYS ARE VACATED.
11:58:47 SO WE'RE ASKING THAT THIS BE CONTINUED UNTIL THE SAME
11:58:51 HEARING THAT YOU'RE HEARING THE SECOND READING OF THE
11:58:54 VACATION.
11:58:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT A MOTION?
11:58:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM PH 22-74005 TO
11:59:01 JUNE 2, 2022 AT 10:30 A.M. SO IT CAN BE HEARD WITH FILE
11:59:05 NUMBER VAC-21-15.
11:59:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:59:09 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:59:11 LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:59:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:59:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:59:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:59:20 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:59:22 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:59:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:59:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:59:25 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:59:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO WITHDRAW ITEM 59.
11:59:29 >> SECOND.
11:59:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:59:32 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:59:34 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:59:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:59:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:59:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:59:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:59:47 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:59:48 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:59:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:59:51 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:59:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
11:59:55 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 60, FILE NUMBER VAC-22-15.
12:00:07 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I ALSO NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF ON
12:00:09 THIS ONE.
12:00:10 MY COMPANY WORKS WITH ONE OF THE COMPANIES INVOLVED WITH
12:00:12 THIS.
12:00:13 OF COURSE, WE DON'T WORK ON ANY ISSUES RELATED TO
12:00:16 APPLICATIONS WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT BECAUSE WE WORK ON
12:00:18 OTHER MATTERS IN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION I'LL RECUSE MYSELF.
12:00:22 THANK YOU.
12:00:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SAMONS.
12:00:34 >> RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:00:36 ITEM 60 IS A REQUEST TO VACATE A PORTION OF WHITING STREET
12:00:40 RIGHT-OF-WAY IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
12:00:41 THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE BECAUSE THIS
12:00:44 PORTION OF WHITING STREET WAS PREVIOUSLY VACATED IN 2017,
12:00:48 BUT THE ORDINANCE WAS RENDERED NULL AND VOID DUE TO THE
12:00:52 DEVELOPER'S INABILITY TO COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THREE
12:00:55 YEARS.
12:00:56 THE SAME DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING THE SAME VACATING NOW.
12:01:00 AS ALWAYS DURING FIRST READING, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND CITY
12:01:03 COUNCIL THAT HAS WIDE DISCRETION TO EITHER APPROVE OR DENY
12:01:06 THE REQUEST.
12:01:08 SOME FACTORS TO CONSIDER IN THAT DELIBERATION INCLUDE
12:01:10 WHETHER THE VACATING WILL RELIEVE THE PUBLIC FROM THE COST
12:01:13 OF MAINTAINING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHETHER THE VACATING WILL
12:01:16 ALLEVIATE A PUBLIC NUISANCE OR CURTAIL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY,
12:01:19 WHETHER THE VACATING WILL FOSTER REDEVELOPMENT, AND WHETHER
12:01:23 AN ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNER'S ACCESS WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY
12:01:26 DIMINISHED OR COMPLETELY CUT OFF.
12:01:27 I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR NOW TO MR. ROSS SAMONS FOR
12:01:31 HIS PRESENTATION.
12:01:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SAMONS.
12:01:33 >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
12:01:36 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
12:01:39 ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, PRESENTING FILE
12:01:45 VAC-22-15.
12:01:48 THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 103 SOUTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
12:01:52 IT IS THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE A PORTION OF
12:01:55 WHITING STREET LYING SOUTH OF WASHINGTON STREET, NORTH OF
12:01:58 BROREIN STREET, WEST OF ASHLEY STREET, AND EAST OF
12:02:01 HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
12:02:02 THE STREET WAS CREATED PER SUBDIVISION PLAT, GENERAL PLAT OF
12:02:06 TAMPA AND IS LOCATED IN THE DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
12:02:08 THE APPLICATION WAS FILED ON MARCH 5th OF 2022.
12:02:14 THE APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WHITING
12:02:16 STREET THAT IS REQUESTED TO BE VACATED.
12:02:19 THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS AS FOLLOWS:
12:02:23 PORTION OF WHITING STREET WAS VACATED AGAIN PURSUANT TO
12:02:27 TAMPA ORDINANCE 2017-31.
12:02:28 THE ORDINANCE IS VOID DUE TO CONDITIONS OF THE ORDINANCE NOT
12:02:31 BEING MET.
12:02:31 THE VACATING REQUIRED FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARCEL SOUTH OF
12:02:35 WHITING STREET.
12:02:36 THIS ALLEY IS WITHIN DOWNTOWN TAMPA PARTNERSHIP.
12:02:39 NO EXISTING CODE VIOLATIONS EXIST.
12:02:41 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO VACATE AGAIN A PORTION OF
12:02:46 WHITING STREET LOCATED AT 103 SOUTH ASHLEY STREET.
12:02:49 THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 10,600 SQUARE
12:02:54 FEET.
12:02:54 STORMWATER, TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION, TECO, FRONTIER, AND
12:02:59 SPECTRUM UTILIZE THIS ALLEY AND ARE REQUIRING AN EASEMENT
12:03:03 RESERVATION OVER ALL OF THE PART OF THE VACATING AREA.
12:03:07 STORMWATER IS ALLOWING SOME ENCROACHMENTS INTO THE EASEMENT
12:03:10 AREA.
12:03:10 THE CITY OF TAMPA OWNS THE PARCEL ON THE NORTH SIDE OF
12:03:13 WHITING STREET, AND ARE IN FAVOR OF THE VACATING.
12:03:16 HERE IS AN AERIAL SHOWING THE REQUESTED VACATING AND
12:03:21 PROPOSED VACATING IN YELLOW.
12:03:23 AND THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY HERE IN RED.
12:03:26 AGAIN, JUST A MAP VIEW OF THE AREA.
12:03:40 THIS IS THE PORTION OF WHITING STREET PROPOSED VACATING IN
12:03:46 THE HENDRY & KNIGHTS SUBDIVISION MAP.
12:03:50 AND THIS IS THE SECTION MAP SHOWING THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
12:03:56 PREVIOUSLY VACATED PROPERTIES.
12:04:02 HERE IS AN IMAGE OF WHITING STREET LOOKING WEST FROM ASHLEY
12:04:10 STREET.
12:04:11 THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH FROM WHITING STREET.
12:04:13 THIS PORTION IS TO BE VACATED.
12:04:15 THE ABUTTING PROPERTY LOOKING NORTH FROM WHITING STREET.
12:04:23 THIS IS A PORTION OF THE PROPOSED VACATING.
12:04:27 AGAIN, WHITING STREET LOOKING WEST FROM ASHLEY STREET.
12:04:33 THOSE ARE DUPLICATES.
12:04:36 STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
12:04:42 VACATING APPROVED BY COUNCIL, EASEMENT RESERVATIONS REQUIRED
12:04:46 FOR STORMWATER, TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION, TECO, FRONTIER AND
12:04:49 SPECTRUM ALSO CONDITIONS TO ALLOW SPECIFIC ENCROACHMENTS
12:04:52 INTO THE EASEMENTS AS NOTED.
12:04:54 MUST MEET ALL NFPA CODES AT PERMITTING.
12:04:58 CHAPTER 27 TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN.
12:05:03 THAT'S ALL I HAVE IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF IS
12:05:06 AVAILABLE.
12:05:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
12:05:07 THANK YOU.
12:05:10 PETITIONER?
12:05:15 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
12:05:16 JIM PORTER WITH AKERMAN, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, TAMPA.
12:05:19 I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
12:05:21 WE CONCUR WITH STAFF'S FINDINGS AND ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
12:05:25 NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT THE CITY WILL STILL MAINTAIN FEE
12:05:28 OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY.
12:05:29 WE WILL NOT OWN IT IF IT IS VACATED.
12:05:32 PROVIDE ALL THE EASEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ARTICULATED AND
12:05:34 THEN THE CITY WOULD PROVIDE US THE EASEMENTS NECESSARY FOR
12:05:36 US TO DO THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA.
12:05:39 BUT OTHERWISE, WE CONCUR WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
12:05:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
12:05:45 IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
12:05:54 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
12:05:56 >> SECOND.
12:05:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:05:58 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:06:00 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:06:03 I'M SORRY.
12:06:08 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:06:09 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:06:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE AN ORDINANCE, THE
12:06:15 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND
12:06:18 ABANDONING THAT PORTION OF WHITING STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY
12:06:21 LOCATED SOUTH WASHINGTON STREET, NORTH OF BROREIN STREET,
12:06:26 EAST OF THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AND WEST OF ASHLEY STREET AS
12:06:28 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO
12:06:32 CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE
12:06:35 PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND
12:06:37 PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS,
12:06:40 INTERPRETATIONS, AND REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR
12:06:43 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:06:45 >> SECOND.
12:06:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:06:48 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:06:49 ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:06:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:06:54 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:06:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:06:57 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:06:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:06:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:07:01 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
12:07:03 ABSTAINING.
12:07:04 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
12:07:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:07:08 >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
12:07:10 JUNE 16, 2022, AT 9:30 A.M.
12:07:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL, WE HAVE THREE ITEMS LEFT, WHICH MAY
12:07:24 BE LENGTHY.
12:07:26 DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND BREAK FOR LUNCH NOW AND THEN COME
12:07:30 BACK AT 1:30?
12:07:32 >> YES.
12:07:35 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A GRADUATION I HAVE TO GO TO THAT WILL
12:07:38 PRECLUDE ME FROM BEING LIKELY BEING HERE FOR THESE ITEMS.
12:07:41 AND ARE THEY THE FINAL THREE ITEMS?
12:07:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
12:07:44 62, 63 AND 76.
12:07:46 >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO MAKE A QUICK MOTION FOR
12:07:48 SOMETHING.
12:07:49 MAY I MAKE IT NOW?
12:07:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURELY.
12:07:52 >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S JUST RESCHEDULING.
12:07:54 A MOTION FOR COMMENDATION FOR COLONEL DJ REYES FOR HIS
12:07:58 INDUCTION INTO THE FLORIDA VETERAN'S HALL OF FAME FOR THE
12:08:01 JULY 19 PRESENTATION SESSION.
12:08:03 >> SECOND.
12:08:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M HAPPY YOU'RE GRADUATING.
12:08:08 >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW, RIGHT.
12:08:09 FINALLY.
12:08:09 [LAUGHTER]
12:08:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:08:11 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:08:13 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:08:14 ANY OPPOSED?
12:08:16 OKAY.
12:08:19 WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
12:08:24 [LUNCH RECESS]
12:08:26
13:31:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: TODAY IS THE 19th OF MAY, 2022. TAMPA
13:32:36 CITY COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.
13:32:38 ROLL CALL.
13:32:38 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
13:32:45 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
13:32:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
13:32:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
13:32:50 VERY, VERY MUCH.
13:32:54 WE WOULD LIKE TO OPEN ITEMS NUMBER 62 AND 63 TOGETHER AS
13:32:58 THEY ARE GOING TO BE HEARD IN TOTAL, SO LET'S -- LET'S OPEN
13:33:04 THEM TOGETHER, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYBODY.
13:33:10 ALL RIGHT.
13:33:10 >>DENNIS ROGERO: CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
13:33:16 IF I CAN HAVE THE PowerPoint PRESENTATION ONSCREEN,
13:33:20 PLEASE.
13:33:22 THERE WE ARE.
13:33:22 THANK YOU.
13:33:23 THESE NEXT TWO ITEMS, NUMBER 62 AND 63, ASK FOR YOUR
13:33:27 APPROVAL FOR OUR NEXT STEP OF THE PIPES MASTER PLAN, THE
13:33:32 2022 BONDS.
13:33:34 WE BRIEFED EACH OF YOU.
13:33:36 AGAIN THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND INTEREST.
13:33:42 ITEM NUMBER 62 AND A BRIEF RECAP.
13:33:47 A FEW YEARS AGO IN 2019 WE DID A WIDE ARRAY OF COMMUNITY
13:33:52 ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH, AND BASED ON THAT CITY COUNCIL
13:33:54 APPROVED A 20-YEAR 2.9 BILLION WATER WASTE, WATER
13:34:00 INFRASTRUCTURE MASTER PLAN.
13:34:03 THIS PLAN IS EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE PIPES POLICEMAN AND I WILL
13:34:06 SPEAK IN A BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
13:34:13 THIS PLAN INCLUDED FOR THE FIRST TIME A BASE CHARGE WHICH
13:34:16 WILL GO UP INCREMENTALLY OVER TIME.
13:34:19 VERY IMPORTANTLY, IN AN EFFORT NOT TO LEAVE ANYONE BEHIND,
13:34:22 WE ALSO INSTITUTED A CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM HELPING
13:34:27 LOW-INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.
13:34:28 AND I WILL REMIND YOU WE ARE FUNDING THAT PROGRAM NOT FROM
13:34:31 THIS BUT FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
13:34:34 AT YOUR REQUEST, COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE ARE GOING TO AMPLIFY
13:34:37 OUR COMMUNICATION ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE
13:34:40 PROGRAM, LETTING THE COMMUNITY KNOW AND CONTINUALLY
13:34:44 REMINDING THEM OF THAT AVAILABLE ASSISTANCE.
13:34:53 THIS PLAN INCLUDED A SERIES OF INCREASES WHICH WILL STAY
13:34:57 SUFFICIENT TO MEET OUR DEBT COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS, AND
13:35:00 PROTECT OUR AAA RATING MATRIX.
13:35:10 YET AS WE SHARE WITH YOU, EVEN WITH THESE INCREMENTAL
13:35:13 INCREASES, WE THINK WE COMPARE VERY FAVORABLY TO OTHER LOCAL
13:35:18 GOVERNMENTS, AND YOU SEE THE CURRENT STATUS RIGHT NOW FISCAL
13:35:21 YEAR 2022.
13:35:22 OUR RATING ON THE LEFT COMPARED WITH MANY OTHER LOCAL
13:35:25 GOVERNMENTS.
13:35:27 WE ALSO ANTICIPATE, AS YOU WILL SEE ON THIS NEXT SLIDE, WE
13:35:31 WILL CONTINUE TO COMPARE FAVORABLY WITH THOSE OTHER LOCAL
13:35:35 GOVERNMENTS.
13:35:36 THIS IS ANTICIPATED RATE IN 2027 AND IT'S STILL LESS THAN
13:35:41 ABOUT 8 OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CURRENTLY.
13:35:45 AND I WOULD VENTURE A GUESS THAT AT LEAST SOME OF THESE
13:35:49 OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE GOING TO INCREASE THEIR RATES
13:35:51 WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
13:36:00 BASED ON THE MASTER PLAN APPROVED IN JULY 2020, WE INITIATED
13:36:07 AND COUNCIL APPROVED A $350,000 MILLION DEBT ISSUE AS YOU
13:36:13 CAN SEE, AND I WILL SHARE WITH YOU, VERY WELL RECEIVED BY
13:36:17 THE MARKET AND BY THE INDUSTRY.
13:36:19 IT WAS SO WELL RECEIVED THAT DESPITE BEING IN THE FACE OF A
13:36:23 GLOBAL PANDEMIC, ALL THREE OF OUR RATINGS BY ALL THREE MAJOR
13:36:30 RATING AGENCIES WERE BROUGHT TO THE VERY HIGHEST OBTAINABLE
13:36:34 AAA.
13:36:36 AGAIN IT WAS A BOLD BIG STEP AT THE TIME AND WE WERE
13:36:39 REWARDED FOR IT.
13:36:42 YOU SEE OF COURSE IT WAS AWARDED THE BOND BUYER SOUTHEAST
13:36:46 DEAL OF THE YEAR FOR 2020.
13:36:47 IN THIS MARKET AND IN THIS INDUSTRY, THAT'S A VERY
13:36:51 PRESTIGIOUS AWARD.
13:36:52 SO I CONGRATULATE COUNCIL AGAIN AND CONGRATULATE MY TEAM.
13:36:57 I AM ALSO PLEASED TO SHARE AS YOU SEE ON SLIDE LESS THAN TWO
13:37:02 YEARS AFTER THIS BOND ISSUANCE, WE HAVE SPENT OR PUT UNDER
13:37:05 CONTRACT NEARLY 100% OF THE FUNDING IN ITS ENTIRETY, 96%.
13:37:12 IN THE RUN UP TO THIS PRESENTATION, WE BRIEFED AND PRESENTED
13:37:16 TO ALL THREE RATING AGENCIES, AND I AM -- WELL, I DON'T
13:37:22 INFER, STATED IT, THIS IS INITIALLY GOOD PROGRESS IN THIS
13:37:28 ENVIRONMENT.
13:37:30 GETTING ALL THAT FUNDING COMMITTED, GETTING THAT FUNDING
13:37:32 DOWN RANGE AND THE PROJECTS.
13:37:43 THIS IS JUST A SCREEN SHOT OF ONE OF THE MANY HEADLINES AND
13:37:46 PARAGRAPHS, WE RECEIVED COMPLIMENTS ON OUR PROACTIVITY WHEN
13:37:49 WE ISSUED THOSE BONDS.
13:37:50 >> YOU SEE HERE IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 COLUMN, THAT'S WHERE
13:38:03 WE ARE TODAY, WE WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE ABOUT $350 MILLION
13:38:07 WORTH OF BONDS, AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, PART OF THE OVERALL
13:38:12 PLAN WE STILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT DEBT ISSUE AND WE WILL BE
13:38:20 COMING BEFORE COUNCIL THIS YEAR AFTER, THE YEAR AFTER THAT,
13:38:24 THE YEAR AFTER THAT, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH PROGRESS WE ARE
13:38:27 MAKING, BUT AGAIN WE ARE MOVING VERY, VERY FAST.
13:38:33 SO WHAT ARE WE ASKING OF COUNCIL?
13:38:35 WE ARE ASKING THESE ITEMS, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THE
13:38:38 PROJECT LIST WHICH I WILL SPEAK TO IN MORE DETAIL IN JUST A
13:38:41 MOMENT.
13:38:41 WE ARE ASKING TO ALLOW US TO DO A NEGOTIATED SALE.
13:38:44 BASED ON THE COMPLEXITY OF THESE TRANSACTIONS AND THE
13:38:47 VOLATILITY IN THE MARKET, IN SIMPLEST TERMS, A NEGOTIATED
13:38:51 SALE ALLOWS US THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO HIT THE MARKET AT THE
13:38:55 RIGHT TIME FOR US TO MITIGATE THE INTEREST RATE AGAINST THE
13:39:02 VOLATILITY.
13:39:03 AGAIN THE PRINCIPAL IS NOT TO EXCEED $350 MILLION.
13:39:08 THE TRUE INTEREST COST DOES NOT EXCEED WILL NOT EXCEED 5.5%.
13:39:12 SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL, WHEN WE BEGAN BRIEFING YOU ABOUT
13:39:16 THREE WEEKS AGO, THAT NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER WAS 5.25%.
13:39:21 IT IS GOING UP, HAS GONE UP.
13:39:24 I WILL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN A MOMENT ABOUT THE
13:39:26 VOLATILITY IN THIS MARKET AND THE ANTICIPATED CONTINUED
13:39:30 UNCERTAINTY.
13:39:32 THE FINAL MATURITY DATE WILL BE NO LATER THAN 2057.
13:39:37 TYPICALLY THESE ARE 30-YEAR BONDS, BUT AGAIN IN AN EFFORT AT
13:39:41 GUARDING AGAINST INTEREST RATE RISK, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO
13:39:44 HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO GO 35 YEARS OUT.
13:39:48 WE THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO BUILD THAT FLEXIBILITY INTO
13:39:51 THIS ISSUE.
13:39:53 IMPORTANTLY, THAT LAST BULLET, THE OPTIONAL REDEMPTION FIRST
13:39:58 CALL ABOUT ELEVEN YEARS. IN SIMPLEST TERMS, THIS ALLOWS US
13:40:02 TO REFINANCE OUR MORTGAGE.
13:40:05 IF RATES GO BACK DOWN AND COUNCIL WILL RECALL IN THE LAST
13:40:09 YEARS, WITH THE HISTORIC INTEREST RATE REDUCTIONS WE HAVE
13:40:12 JUST DONE THAT AND WE HAVE SAVED TENS OF MILLIONS OF
13:40:15 DOLLARS.
13:40:16 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, JUST LIKE THEY ARE GOING UP NOW, DOWN
13:40:20 THE LINE IF THEY COME DOWN WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT
13:40:25 POSSIBILITY.
13:40:29 I WILL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE VOLATILITY GOING ON
13:40:32 RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WE ARE EXPERIENCE BEING.
13:40:34 YOU SEE HERE -- I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CLOSED CAPTIONING.
13:40:40 BUT YOU SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED TWO YEARS SINCE OUR ISSUE IN
13:40:44 2020.
13:40:47 CLEARLY A 2% INCREASE IN THESE RATES SINCE JULY OF 2020 AND
13:40:51 NEARLY A 1% INCREASE IN JUST THE LAST TWO MONTHS.
13:40:55 TO PUT IN THE CONTEXT FOR YOU, HAD OUR ISSUANCE IN 2020 BEEN
13:41:01 1% MORE, IT WOULD HAVE COST US $30 MILLION MORE.
13:41:05 THIS IS A MARKET AND AN INDUSTRIAL WHERE FRACTION OF A
13:41:09 PERCENTAGE MATTER.
13:41:11 SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE TREND THAT IT APPEARS TO BE GOING,
13:41:16 I'M SURE YOU DID READ OR HEAR ABOUT THE FEDERAL RESERVE
13:41:20 INCREASING THEIR FEDERAL FUNDS RATE EARLIER THIS MONTH BY
13:41:23 HALF A PERCENT.
13:41:25 THEY ARE ANTICIPATED TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING A COUPLE
13:41:28 TIMES THIS YEAR.
13:41:29 RATES ARE GOING UP.
13:41:31 AND AGAIN, THIS IS AN INDUSTRY AND A MARKET WHERE A QUARTER
13:41:34 OF A PERCENT FLUCTUATION -- VERY VOLATILE, AND THIS IS A
13:41:41 WHOLE PERCENT, ALMOST 2% IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS.
13:41:44 AGAIN ANOTHER REASON WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON THIS SOONER
13:41:47 RATHER THAN LATER, LOCK IN WHAT ARE STILL LOW-INTEREST RATES
13:41:51 BEFORE WE ANTICIPATE THOSE RATES CONTINUING TO INCREASE.
13:42:07 I WILL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS SOME CONCERNS
13:42:10 COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAD REGARDING USE OF THIS FUNDING.
13:42:13 I THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCILMAN, FOR SURFACING THESE CONCERNS
13:42:17 AHEAD OF TIME SO WE COULD HAVE TIME TO DISCUSS THEM.
13:42:20 AFTER DISCUSSION WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THE CONCERNS,
13:42:23 WE HAVE PREPARED AN AMENDED PROJECT LIST, AND THIS AMENDED
13:42:29 PROJECT LIST SIMPLY EXCLUDES THE USE OF THIS FUNDING FOR
13:42:33 THREE THINGS: THE PURE PROGRAM, THE TAP PROGRAM, AND THE
13:42:38 WATER DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.
13:42:42 I HAVE THAT REVISED LIST FOR COUNCIL.
13:42:45 I DEFER TO COUNCIL AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO ADDRESS IT.
13:42:49 I CAN ADDRESS IT NOW OR AFTER THE PRESENTATION.
13:42:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
13:43:12 >>DENNIS ROGERO: AGAIN THESE ARE THE MAJOR PROJECTS
13:43:14 UNAMENDED BY WHAT WE'LL DISCUSS AT THE END OF THE
13:43:17 PRESENTATION.
13:43:19 AT COUNCIL'S SUGGESTION WE HAVE ALSO PROVIDED MAPS
13:43:22 ASSOCIATED WITH THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS SO YOU CAN SEE
13:43:24 WHERE THEY ARE TAKING PLACE.
13:43:25 A LITTLE SMALL NOW, YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED HARD COPY.
13:43:30 IF YOU NEED LARGER COPIES FOR MORE DETAIL, JUST LET US KNOW.
13:43:35 CONTINUING WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THE WASTEWATER CAPITAL
13:43:39 IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, AGAIN THESE ARE THE PRIMARY PROJECTS,
13:43:41 THE BIGGEST DOLLAR AMOUNT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DEBT
13:43:45 ISSUANCE.
13:43:46 AND AGAIN, A PROJECT MAP IDENTIFYING WHERE THEY ARE GOING.
13:43:56 AS WE HAVE SHARED WITH COUNCIL IN OUR BRIEFING, THIS IS WHAT
13:43:59 WE ANTICIPATE WHAT THE DEBT PROFILE WILL LOOK LIKE AFTER
13:44:03 THIS ISSUE ONCE.
13:44:04 THIS ISSUANCE IS THE DARK BLUE AT THE TOP.
13:44:07 YOU CAN SEE WE ARE DOING WHAT WE HAVE DONE BEFORE, WHAT THEY
13:44:09 CALL WRAPPING THE DEBT AROUND EXISTING DEBT, SO WE END UP
13:44:13 WITH A NICE SMOOTH PAYMENT PLAN TO SEE AT THE TOP THERE, NO
13:44:18 SURPRISES, VERY PREDICTABLE AND A VERY GOOD DEBT SERVICE
13:44:22 PROFILE.
13:44:28 I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE JUNIOR PLEDGE.
13:44:30 OF COURSE WE BRIEFED YOU ON THAT.
13:44:33 LET ME FIRST START TO SAY WE DON'T PLAN ON ISSUING ANY DEBT
13:44:37 UNDER THIS RIGHT NOW, BUT THIS IS -- AND I WILL POINT OUT
13:44:42 THAT FOURTH BULLET POINT FIRST.
13:44:44 SAFEGUARDING OUR AAA RATING.
13:44:47 GOING INTO THE FUTURE, OF COURSE, THERE'S A LOT OF
13:44:49 VOLATILITY, A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY.
13:44:51 I WILL ACTUALLY SPEAK MORE ABOUT THAT DURING MY MIDYEAR
13:44:55 PRESENTATION.
13:44:56 BUT IF COSTS AND RATES CONTINUE TO INCREASE, WE MAY BE PUT
13:44:59 INTO A POSITION OF NEEDING ADDITIONAL DEBT MORE THAN WHAT WE
13:45:03 PLANNED.
13:45:06 IF WE NEEDED THAT WE WOULD COME TO YOU FIRST BUT ARE IF WE
13:45:09 DID MEET THAT WE COULD SUBORDINATE THAT, AND SEPARATE AND
13:45:14 APART FROM THE PLAN GOING ON NOW TO PROTECT OUR AAA RATINGS
13:45:18 ACROSS THE BOARD, AND THEY WILL BE SUBORDINATE.
13:45:20 THE CURRENT DEBT ISSUE AND THE PLANNED DEBT ISSUANCE WILL
13:45:23 STY AS THE PRIMARY, LESS RISKY, WITH A HIGHER RATING.
13:45:29 ALSO YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM WE HAVE SOME COMMITMENT FROM THE
13:45:31 STATE REVOLVING FUND PROGRAM.
13:45:36 THAT IS IF INTEREST RATES COME DOWN AND WE WOULD LIKE TO GET
13:45:40 RID OF THOSE.
13:45:41 THIS MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO JUST THAT.
13:45:43 TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, THIS IS SEEN BY CREDIT RATING
13:45:46 AGENCIES AS GOOD PLANNING, GOOD FINANCIAL PLANNING, AS MR.
13:45:51 FORD, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISER HAS SAID, WE ARE PLAYING CHESS,
13:45:56 NOT CHECKERS, BEING PROACTIVE RATHER THAN REACTIVE BECAUSE
13:45:59 WE ARE AWARE, AND WE ARE PLANNING FOR AGAIN THE POTENTIAL
13:46:03 VOLATILITY IN THE FUTURE.
13:46:11 AGAIN, SO MUCH WEIGHS ON THE CREDIT RATINGS BY THE AGENCIES
13:46:16 BECAUSE OF THE COST INCREASES ASSOCIATED WITH LOWER CREDIT
13:46:19 RATING, AND YOU SEE A RECAP HERE IN BOLD.
13:46:23 THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT.
13:46:24 I AM HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT ALL THREE CREDIT RATING AGENCIES
13:46:27 HAVE NOW AFFIRMED THOSE RATINGS.
13:46:30 WE HAVE TO DO IT EVERY SINGLE TIME, AND IN LESS THAN TWO
13:46:34 YEARS, WE HAVE AFFIRMED THOSE RATINGS WITH A STABLE OUTLOOK,
13:46:37 AGAIN FURTHER PROOF THAT THIS PLAN IS GOING FORWARD, AND
13:46:42 ACCEPTABLE, AND I WOULD SAY EXCELLENT RATE.
13:46:48 TO WRAP UP MY COMMENTS, WE HAVE GOT WHAT WE STILL THINK IS A
13:46:51 VERY WELL THOUGHT-OUT PLAN.
13:46:53 WE WOULD LIKE TO STICK WITH THE PLAN.
13:46:55 WE HAVE GOT SOME DEBT PROJECTIONS AND ANNUAL COST INCREASED
13:47:00 PRESUMPTIONS.
13:47:00 SO WE ARE ACTIVELY MANAGING THE SYSTEM, WHILE PROTECTING
13:47:04 THOSE AAA METRICS.
13:47:06 WE HAVE A FINANCE TEAM HERE, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISER, JERRY
13:47:11 ANN WILL, STEVE, AND BUDGET OFFICER MIKE PERRY, AND MICHAEL,
13:47:18 WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
13:47:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
13:47:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING WHAT I CONSIDERED
13:47:26 TO BE THE QUESTION OF THE PEOPLE.
13:47:31 THE PEOPLE OPEN THAT WATER BILL UP, THEY JUST LOOK AT THE
13:47:34 DOLLAR AMOUNT AT THE TOP.
13:47:35 THEY DON'T LOOK AT NOTHING ELSE.
13:47:36 HOPE THERE'S A WAY WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH THAT SO PEOPLE
13:47:39 CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD
13:47:42 ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, ESPECIALLY THOSE SENIORS WHO DON'T
13:47:46 KNOW TO KNOW, AGAIN, BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO IT FOR MY MOTHER
13:47:53 AND SHE ASKED ABOUT IT.
13:47:54 AND MAKE SURE IT'S AVAILABLE FOR THOSE SENIORS, THEY TAKE
13:47:58 ADVANTAGE OF IT.
13:48:00 SO WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN YOU COME BACK TO US AND SHOW US
13:48:03 WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO RATHER THAN -- I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW
13:48:07 BEFOREHAND WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO SO WE CAN TELL FOLKS IN
13:48:11 THE COMMUNITY THIS IS COMING, WATCH OUT FOR THIS, LOOK OUT
13:48:14 FOR THAT, THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT AND KNOW SOMETHING
13:48:16 IS COME AS WELL.
13:48:17 I KNOW WE HAVE IT ADVERTISED, SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT AGAIN, A LOT
13:48:22 OF THE OLDER PEOPLE DO GO TO THOSE AND THEY CAN SPREAD THE
13:48:25 WORD AGAIN, FINALLY TO PUT SOMETHING ELSE IN THAT WATER BILL
13:48:28 SO WHEN THEY OPEN THAT BILL, SOME WAY, SAYING WHAT DOES THIS
13:48:32 MEAN?
13:48:34 >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
13:48:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAIN, YOU TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF
13:48:40 PROJECTS.
13:48:41 I KNOW THE HOT TOPIC IS THE ROGERS GOLF COURSE SITUATION.
13:48:49 >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I CAN PASS THIS AMENDED EXHIBIT A.
13:48:55 EXHIBIT A -- [OFF MICROPHONE.]
13:49:05 >> THAT'S PART OF THE RESOLUTION THAT'S CONSIDERED FOR
13:49:11 ADOPTION,.
13:49:13 >>DENNIS ROGERO: [OFF MICROPHONE]
13:49:36 I WILL GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO REVIEW IT BUT PURE CAP FOR THE
13:49:39 WATER ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.
13:49:43 ALSO, I GUESS ALSO KNOWN AS THE WATER CENTER.
13:49:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
13:50:24 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO THANK MR. ROGERO AND IF STAFF FOR
13:50:32 ADDING THOSE LINES IN THIS.
13:50:37 COUNCIL EXCEPT OUR NEWEST MEMBER REMEMBERS WHEN WE APPROVED
13:50:40 PIPES THREE WEEKS YEARS AGO WE SPECIFICALLY TOOK THESE
13:50:43 PROJECTS OUT, SO WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE WATER BUILDING,
13:50:47 SO THIS IS JUST CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE DONE, RECENTLY
13:50:51 APPROVED IT.
13:50:51 AND IF WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE WHAT I CALL TOILET TO TAP, IT
13:50:56 SHOULD BE A SEPARATE BUDGET ISSUE AND SEPARATE DISCUSSION,
13:50:58 SEPARATE HEARINGS, AND THERE -- SHOULDN'T BE MONEY SHIFTED
13:51:03 FROM ONE ACCOUNT TO THE OTHER.
13:51:05 WE SOLD THIS TO THE PUBLIC WITHOUT THAT, AND SO IT WOULD NOT
13:51:10 BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE PROJECTED THE PUBLIC IF WE PUT IT
13:51:13 BACK IN.
13:51:13 THE WATER BUILDING, WE DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT IT, BUT IT
13:51:18 CAN COME OUT OF A DIFFERENT BUDGET.
13:51:21 THE CONCERN OF THE PUBLIC IS THAT WE USE THESE DOLLARS
13:51:24 EFFICIENTLY EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A 30 OR $40 INCREASE IN
13:51:27 WATER, FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT WOULD DOUBLE, SOME PEOPLE MAYBE
13:51:32 ONLY 20%, BUT PEOPLE ON A FIXED INCOME, THAT WAS A LOT OF
13:51:36 MONEY BUT EVERYBODY ELSE EVEN WANTS US TO USE THE MONEY
13:51:39 EFFECTIVELY AND PEOPLE SEE THEIR PROPERTY VALUES GO UP AND
13:51:41 THEIR PROPERTY TAXES GO UP AND THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT WE ARE
13:51:44 USING EVERY DOLLAR EFFECTIVELY.
13:51:46 SO IF WE ARE GOING TO BUILD A BUILDING, ON THE NUMBERS THAT
13:51:48 I SEE, IT SEEMS TO BE VERY EXPENSIVE AND EXTRAVAGANT.
13:51:53 BUT WE OUGHT TO HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PUBLIC AND
13:51:55 HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE APPROVE IT AND WE SHOULDN'T
13:51:59 ADD IT TO ANOTHER LIST REASONING ROGERO UNDERSTOOD.
13:52:03 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THAT.
13:52:06 IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND PUBLIC SECTOR, TOO, BUT THERE'S
13:52:10 LOTS OF MEASURES OF EFFICIENCY SO YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT WE
13:52:13 USED 96% OF THE MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR BONDS.
13:52:18 OUR CREDIT RATINGS ARE HIGH.
13:52:21 HERE ARE ALL THE PROJECTS WE WORKED ON.
13:52:23 BUT WHAT IT DOESN'T SAY FOR THE PUBLIC IS DID WE USE THE
13:52:26 MONEY EFFICIENTLY?
13:52:27 SO IN THE CAPITAL MARKETS THERE ARE RATIOS THAT WE CAN LOOK
13:52:30 AT THAT SAY WHETHER WE SPENT THE MONEY IN AN EFFICIENT WAY.
13:52:35 WHAT RATIO LIKE THAT DOES THE WATER DEPARTMENT TRACKING MAY
13:52:40 OR MAY NOT HAVE TO PRESENT TO THE PURCHASER AS A BOND FOR
13:52:44 THE CREDIT RATING SERVICES TO SHOW THAT WE ARE NOT ONLY
13:52:47 SPENDING THE MONEY BUT THAT WE ARE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF
13:52:50 THE MONEY, USING IT EFFICIENTLY AND USING EVERY DOLLAR
13:52:53 EFFICIENTLY?
13:52:54 >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
13:52:56 I WILL HAVE TO DEFER TO THE DEPARTMENT BUT WHEN WE MAKE
13:52:59 THESE PRESENTATIONS WITH EACH RATING AGENCY, THEY GET VERY,
13:53:04 VERY DETAILED AND VERY, VERY INTENSE, AND I WILL HAVE
13:53:09 MR. BAIRD COME UP.
13:53:15 >>BRAD BAIRD: DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
13:53:18 THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, COUNCILMAN.
13:53:21 WHEN DENNIS TALKS ABOUT THE 96% ENCUMBERED OR SPENT ON THAT
13:53:26 FIRST BOND ISSUE, THAT ISSUE ALSO HAD A LIST OF PROJECTS
13:53:31 ASSOCIATED WITH IT SO THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EXACTLY THAT
13:53:34 LIST OF PROJECTS.
13:53:37 SO WE HAVEN'T DEVIATED FROM THAT LIST AT ALL.
13:53:40 >>BILL CARLSON: SO THE QUESTION, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE
13:53:44 PIPES YOU ARE REPLACING, I SAW YOUR PRESENTATION AT EAST
13:53:48 TAMPA RECENTLY, PUTTING LINERS IN THERE.
13:53:51 SO YOU COULD ARGUE THAT IF A PIPE IS IN DECENT SHAPE, I
13:53:57 DON'T KNOW THE PERCENTAGE, BUT DECENT SHAPE, PUT A LINER IN
13:54:02 IT, THAT GIVES IT ANOTHER 50 OR 100 YEARS, AND IF IT'S IN
13:54:06 BAD SHAPE YOU SHOULD REPLACE IT.
13:54:08 SO THE POINT THERE IS THERE ARE DECISIONS THAT YOU ALL MAKE
13:54:11 ALONG THE WAY ABOUT EFFICIENT USE OF MONEY.
13:54:13 SO YOU WOULDN'T GO TO -- AGAIN I DON'T KNOW THE PERCENTAGES
13:54:16 BUT IF A PIPE IS IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE YOU WOULDN'T REPLACE
13:54:19 IT, YOU WOULD PUT A LINER IN BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT SAVES
13:54:22 MONEY.
13:54:22 SO ARE THERE EFFICIENCY MEASURES, NOT THAT YOU HAVE DONE THE
13:54:25 PROJECT, BUT IS THERE LIKE COST PER MILE, OR COST PER
13:54:30 PROJECT, OR COMPARATIVE COSTS, PUBLIC UTILITIES CAN COMPARE
13:54:35 COSTS ON THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE TO SEE WHAT THE EFFICIENCIES
13:54:40 ARE OF ONE UTILITY VERSUS ANOTHER.
13:54:43 HOW DOES OUR WATER DEPARTMENT COMPARE THOSE EFFICIENCIES?
13:54:46 >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
13:54:47 I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
13:54:49 SO WHEN WE STARTED THIS WHOLE PROCESS, IF YOU RECALL BACK IN
13:54:53 2019, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD FOUR MASTER PLANS, ONE FOR EACH
13:54:57 PLAN, AND ONE FOR EACH OF THE LINE SYSTEMS, AND THEN THE
13:55:02 COST ESTIMATIONS WERE IN THE PLAN FOR WASTEWATER.
13:55:05 SO IN THOSE MASTER PLANS WE PRIORITIZED THE WORST OF THE
13:55:09 WORST, THE ONES THAT SHOULD BE DONE IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS,
13:55:13 AND THAT'S FIVE YEARS AND SO ON.
13:55:17 FAST FORWARD TO WHEN WE HAVE PROCESSED THE INITIAL SERVICES
13:55:24 AGREEMENT, WE HAD OUR DESIGN BUILD TEAM GO BACK AND
13:55:27 REEVALUATE AND RETELEVISE THE LINES AND THE LATERALS TO SEE,
13:55:34 ALL RIGHT, HAS THE CONDITION CHANGED, HAS IT WORSENED, AND
13:55:37 THEN CONFIRM THOSE ARE THE WORST OF THE WORST AND THEN
13:55:42 DETERMINE AT THAT POINT, OKAY, THIS LINE WILL BE REPLACED,
13:55:45 THIS LINE WILL BE LINED, AND THEN GET DOWN INTO ACTUALLY
13:55:50 WHAT TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION INCLUDING WHETHER IT SHOULD BE
13:55:53 DIRECTIONAL DRILL, REPLACE IN PLACE, PIPE BURSTING.
13:56:01 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, BUT IS THERE A RATIO OR SOME KIND OF
13:56:05 FINANCIAL MEASURE TO LOOK AT EFFICIENCIES USE?
13:56:09 FOR EXAMPLE, IF THREE COMPANIES ARE COMPETING WITH EACH
13:56:12 OTHER AND ONE FINDS PRODUCTS IN THE U.S. AND MEXICO AND
13:56:16 OTHERS IN CHINA, IF THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT IS THE SAME
13:56:19 THEY CAN LOOK AT THE PRICES AND THE SHIPPING AND TRY TO
13:56:21 FIGURE OUT WHICH CHOICE IS BEST FOR PRODUCTS.
13:56:25 IN THIS CASE, IS THERE LIKE A COST PER MGD, OR IS THERE A
13:56:32 COST PER PROJECT OR COST PER MILE?
13:56:34 HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THE MONEY IS BEING EFFICIENTLY USED?
13:56:39 AN EXAMPLE, McDONALD'S CAN HAVE FOUR PEOPLE WORK AT A
13:56:43 COUNTER, OR THEY CAN HAVE TWO PEOPLE AND A COMPUTER.
13:56:47 SO WHICH ONE IS THE MOST EFFICIENT?
13:56:49 HOW DO WE KNOW THAT WE ARE EFFICIENTLY USING THE MONEY?
13:56:52 >>BRAD BAIRD: SO THAT FALLS ON THE ENGINEERING STAFF, FOR
13:56:56 THE MOST PART.
13:56:58 IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS.
13:57:00 SO THEY WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHAT THE BEST FIT IS
13:57:03 FOR THAT REPLACEMENT OR REHABILITATION.
13:57:06 AND THEN NOT ONLY WHAT IS THE BEST FIT BUT WHAT IS THE BEST
13:57:11 MATERIAL FOR THAT.
13:57:12 A GOOD EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE LATERAL LINING.
13:57:16 WE HAVE ONLY TWO DIFFERENT -- SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PRODUCTS
13:57:21 AND SERVICES, AND SO WE LOOK AT WHICH ONE WOULD BE THE
13:57:26 BETTER FIT FOR THAT.
13:57:27 AND I ALSO WANT TO ADD THAT -- AND I'LL STICK WITH
13:57:31 WASTEWATER AS AN EXAMPLE -- FOR THE LINING OF THE MAIN
13:57:35 LINES, KEY WIT WHO IS THE PRIME CONTRACTOR WILL RECEIVE BIDS
13:57:44 FROM FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT FIRMS TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES
13:57:46 TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING THE BEST PRICE FOR THAT.
13:57:49 >> AND TO ADD A FEW MORE DETAILS, STARTING WITH OUR
13:57:57 STRATEGIC PLAN, THAT'S A DATA DRIVEN PLAN.
13:57:59 WE HAVE EXTENSIVE METRICS THAT WE DO FOR EVERY COMPONENT OF
13:58:03 THE INVENTORY OF OUR ASSETS.
13:58:05 SO WE USE THAT DATA TO DEVELOP THAT STRATEGIC PLAN.
13:58:10 ALL THESE SEPARATE ENGINEERING COMPONENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT
13:58:15 WE ARE MAKING THE MOST STRATEGIC DECISIONS.
13:58:17 SO THE FRAMEWORK OF OUR DECISIONS FOR WHAT TO DO, WHERE TO
13:58:22 DO, HOW TO DO IT, IS AGAIN DATABASED.
13:58:25 ON TOP OF THAT WE HAVE A VERY COMPETITIVE SELECTION PROCESS
13:58:29 FOR WHICH WE CAN COMPARE THOSE PROPOSALS AND WHAT WE CALL
13:58:33 GMPs, GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE, FOR BIGGER PROJECTS, WE
13:58:38 CAN COMPARE THOSE WITH OTHER EXISTING THINGS WE ARE
13:58:44 EXPERIENCING TO COMPARE HOW OUR COSTS, COMPARED TO THE
13:58:49 OTHERS, ARE WITHIN AN ACCEPTABLE RANGE, AND I THINK THE
13:58:54 QUALITY OF THE SERVICE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING, COMPARED TO
13:58:57 THAT QUANTITATIVE BENEFICIARIES, QUANTITATIVE COST OF THE
13:59:03 RATES THAT WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE SKYROCKETING RATES, SO
13:59:11 WITH THE PROCESS, THE STRATEGIC APPROACH WE HAVE COMPARED
13:59:15 WITH THE REAL WORLD COST, AS WELL AS THE CUSTOMER
13:59:21 SATISFACTION AND THE REAL NUMBERS OF OUR RATES, ALL OF THAT
13:59:24 COMBINED I THINK TELLS A VERY BIG STORY, AND WE ARE MAKING
13:59:27 THE BEST DECISIONS FOR OUR ASSETS, FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR
13:59:30 THE TAXPAYERS.
13:59:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN HURTAK.
13:59:36 >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.
13:59:39 I AM GOING TO SEE IF I CAN -- SO I THINK WHAT HE IS TRYING
13:59:44 TO ASK, AND I AGREE, THE QUESTION IS, SO YOU HAVE GONE PIPE
13:59:51 A, B AND C, YOU NEED TO REPLACE, PIPES D AND E YOU ARE GOING
13:59:56 TO LINE.
13:59:57 GOING BACK AND DOING THE REVISION OF THE REVIDEOING, YOU
14:00:05 FOUND THAT PIPES A AND B DEFINITELY NEED TO BE REPLACED BUT
14:00:09 PIPE D YOU ARE NOT SURE ABOUT SO YOU GO AHEAD AND DECIDE TO
14:00:12 REPLACE IT AND NOW D IS REALLY BAD AND YOU ARE GOING TO
14:00:15 REPLACE IT INSTEAD, BUT YOU COULD POSSIBLY LINE IT.
14:00:20 WHAT ARE THE COST SAVINGS, THE COSTS OR THE COST SAVINGS IN
14:00:27 LINING IT INSTEAD, WHEN YOU GO IN AND MAKE THOSE SUBTLE
14:00:31 CHANGES THROUGH THE PROCESS?
14:00:34 IS THAT GETTING SLIGHTLY CLOSER?
14:00:36 >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT ALL NIGHT.
14:00:42 MY QUESTION IS MORE ABOUT RATES, CUTTING INTO RATIOS, AND
14:00:45 JEAN WAS GETTING CLOSER TO THE WAY WE CAN TALK ABOUT, THE
14:00:49 DISCUSSION IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO SHOW US
14:00:51 AND THE PUBLIC SOME OF THOSE MEASURES SHE USED TIED TO THE
14:00:55 PLAN.
14:00:57 THANK YOU.
14:00:58 >>BRAD BAIRD: A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH THAT QUESTION, IF I
14:01:01 MAY.
14:01:02 IT'S ABOUT HALF THE COST TO LINE VERSUS REPLACE.
14:01:05 IT'S ALMOST EXACTLY HALF THE COST.
14:01:08 BUT I WILL POINT OUT THAT 99% OF THE TIME, A PIPE IS IN GOOD
14:01:15 ENOUGH SHAPE TO LINE.
14:01:16 SO WE ARE REPLACING THE PIPES IS, IN TWO OF THOSE FOUR
14:01:22 NEIGHBORHOODS, EAST TAMPA AND MACFARLANE PARK, WHERE WE HAVE
14:01:25 WASTEWATER PIPELINES IN THE ALLEY AND WE WILL MOVE THEM TO
14:01:28 THE STREET.
14:01:29 AND THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED REPLACEMENT.
14:01:31 SO THE TECHNOLOGY HAS BECOME GOOD ENOUGH TO WHERE WE CAN
14:01:37 LINE ALL THE PIPES AND GET ANOTHER, AS COUNCILMAN SAID, 50
14:01:43 TO 100 YEARS OF LIFE OUT OF THAT.
14:01:45 AND IT ALSO MINIMIZES THE DISRUPTION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
14:01:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:01:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS SORT OF BRINGING THAT INTO THIS
14:01:57 QUESTION.
14:01:57 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CONDITIONS IN THE AREAS OF
14:02:00 CONDITIONS, AND NOW YOU SAID THE EAST SIDE.
14:02:04 TALK ABOUT REPLACEMENT VERSUS LINED.
14:02:06 I DON'T WANT TO SAY, WELL, REPLACEMENT, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
14:02:13 SO PEOPLE CAN KNOW A COST EFFECTIVENESS OF WHO IS GETTING
14:02:18 WHAT AND WHERE ARE THEY GETTING IT AT?
14:02:20 SO I THINK THE MAGIC POINT IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A
14:02:24 SCHEMATIC SAYING IF THE EAST SIDE HAD THAT, REPLACE THIS,
14:02:28 THIS AND THIS, IF YOU ACTUALLY KNOW WHY SOMEONE GOT THIS
14:02:32 VERSUS THAT, BECAUSE I GUARANTEE, PEOPLE QUESTION THOSE
14:02:36 KINDS OF THINGS WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE CITY. WHO IS GETTING
14:02:39 WHAT?
14:02:39 SO IF YOU SAY THE EAST SIDE IS BAD AND WE ARE TAKING THOSE
14:02:45 OUT OF ALLEYWAYS, AND I JUST THINK MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE
14:02:53 CAN KNOW WHAT WILL BE REPLACED AND KNOWING THAT A LOT OF IT
14:02:58 USED HERE VERSUS REPLACEMENT THERE, AND THIS IS WHY.
14:03:01 AND THAT WILL GIVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WAS DONE.
14:03:05 AT LEAST ON MY SIDE OF TOWN, BECAUSE WE ARE SPENDING MONEY.
14:03:10 >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT'S A VERY VALID CONCERN, AND THANK YOU
14:03:21 FOR THAT.
14:03:22 THAT WILL BE PART OF OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM, TO
14:03:24 EDUCATE EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH YOUR PROPERTY.
14:03:28 I WILL SAY THAT ALL MOVING PIPELINE FROM THE ALLEY TO THE
14:03:37 FRONT ARE IN MACFARLANE PARK AND EAST TAMPA.
14:03:41 THE OTHER TWO VIRGINIA PARK ARE ONLY GETTING LINING, SO NO
14:03:45 NEW PIPES IN THOSE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS TO WASTEWATER.
14:03:47 >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
14:03:53 >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS OR
14:04:05 QUESTIONS, I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION ON THE PLACEMENT.
14:04:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR THE
14:04:13 REPLACEMENT.
14:04:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
14:04:16 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:04:18 ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:04:18 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
14:04:21 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:04:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:04:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:04:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:04:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:04:28 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
14:04:30 ABSENT.
14:04:30 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
14:04:35 I THINK THE MOTION I REFERRED TO.
14:04:37 >> THE MOTION ON THE SUBORDINATE -- PASSED THE RESOLUTION I
14:04:42 THINK WITH THE SUPPLEMENTAL RESOLUTION.
14:04:44 >> NUMBER 62 OR SIMPLY THE REPLACEMENT OF THE PENDING SALE?
14:04:51 >>MORRIS MASSEY: NOW THE MOTION --
14:04:54 >>> MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 62.
14:04:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
14:05:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:05:02 ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:05:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:05:04 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
14:05:05 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:05:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:05:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:05:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:05:12 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
14:05:15 ABSENT.
14:05:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE 63 WHICH ALLOWS US TO MOVE
14:05:21 FORWARD.
14:05:25 MOVE ITEM 63.
14:05:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
14:05:32 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:05:33 ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:05:33 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:05:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:05:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:05:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:05:40 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
14:05:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:05:41 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
14:05:44 ABSENT.
14:05:44 >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
14:05:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW WE HAVE OUR MIDYEAR REVIEW, AGENDA ITEM
14:05:57 NUMBER 76.
14:06:00 REASONING ROGERO THANK YOU ALL.
14:06:02 APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
14:06:05 GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.
14:06:06 I'M STILL DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
14:06:51 I'M READY WE YOU ARE READY.
14:06:58 AS WE DO JUST ABOUT EVERY TIME THIS YEAR COUNCIL WILL
14:07:01 PRESENT THE STATUS AND SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE CURRENT
14:07:04 FISCAL YEAR, BOTH AS TO HOW THEY RELATE TO THE UNCERTAINTY
14:07:09 AND VOLATILITY I SPOKE OF EARLIER AND ALSO HOW WELL THE CITY
14:07:15 COMING OFF OF LAST FISCAL YEAR AND AS WE PREPARE FOR THE
14:07:19 FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET.
14:07:25 AS WE TYPICALLY DO ALWAYS, WE'LL START WITH A BRIEF RECAP OF
14:07:30 THE BUDGET AS IT WAS ADOPTED LAST SEPTEMBER, 1.8 BILLION.
14:07:35 AS IS TYPICAL, AND I DON'T SEE A CHANGE IN THE TWO LARGEST
14:07:38 COMPONENTS BEING THE GENERAL FUND AND THE ENTERPRISE FUND.
14:07:43 PARDON ME.
14:07:43 YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE TWO ITEMS MAKE UP ABOUT THREE
14:07:47 QUARTERS OF THE ENTIRE 1.8 BILLION BUDGET.
14:07:52 GETTING INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL WITH THOSE TWO PRIMARY
14:07:56 FRONTS, YOU SEE ON THE LEFT GENERAL FUND AND ON THE RIGHT
14:07:58 UNIFIED FUNDS.
14:08:00 AS IS TYPICALLY THE CASE AGAIN, THE GENERAL FUND FUNDS
14:08:03 PUBLIC SAFETY, FUNDS PARKS AND RECREATION.
14:08:06 THE BACK OFFICE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT EFFORTS INCLUDING REVENUE
14:08:11 AND FINANCE, BY THE WAY, AND A PUBLIC WORKS COMPONENT.
14:08:15 ON THE RIGHT, THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, THOSE ARE WHERE WE PLACE
14:08:19 OUR BUSINESSES, IF YOU WILL.
14:08:22 WATER DEPARTMENT.
14:08:22 THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT.
14:08:24 SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT.
14:08:25 PARKING.
14:08:31 MOVING ON, YOU SEE THE IMPACT HERE OF THE COMMUNITY
14:08:34 REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ON PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.
14:08:39 AND HOW THE COST OF POLICE AND FIRE ON THE LEFT ACTUALLY
14:08:43 EXCEED WHAT WE TAKE IN, IN TERMS OF PROPERTY TAXES.
14:08:46 YOU SEE IT'S 291 MILLION AND THE PROPERTY TAX RECEIPTS ARE
14:08:52 LESS THAN 260 MILLION.
14:08:56 AGAIN THAT IS TYPICAL, BUT WE LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THE GENERAL
14:09:01 FUND, OF COURSE, BECAUSE THAT IS THE MOST VALUABLE FUNDING
14:09:05 THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL HAS TO WORK WITH.
14:09:08 IT IS THE DOLLAR THAT IS MORE VALUABLE THAN THE OTHER DOLLAR
14:09:11 BECAUSE IT CAN BE SPENT ON ANYTHING.
14:09:16 BECAUSE OF THAT FLEXIBILITY, IT IS ALSO PROBABLY ONE OF THE
14:09:21 MOST IN DEMAND FUNDING SOURCES BECAUSE YOU CAN SPEND THAT
14:09:25 MONEY, AS COUNCIL KNOWS AND AS WE DISCUSSED, CANNOT TAKE
14:09:28 WATER REVENUES AND FUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH IT.
14:09:31 YOU CAN TAKE THE GENERAL FUNDING AND WHAT WHATEVER YOU LIKE.
14:09:40 AND ZEROING IN ON THE GENERAL FUND AGAINST SPECIFICALLY THE
14:09:43 GENERAL FUND BALANCE, WE ANTICIPATE, AS YOU CAN SEE THIS
14:09:47 CHART, IN THIS CHART ON THE RIGHT, WE WILL REMAIN IN A VERY
14:09:51 STRONG FUND BALANCE POSITION.
14:09:54 SLIGHTLY LESS SO THAN THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS.
14:09:58 AS OUR BUDGET INCREASES, OF COURSE, AS OUR BUDGET INCREASES,
14:10:02 OUR REQUIRED AMOUNT FOR FUND BALANCE ASSOCIATED WITH BOTH
14:10:05 OUR POLICY AND OUR GOALS ALSO GOES UP, AND -- TAKE A SIP OF
14:10:14 WATER.
14:10:16 AND ON THE RIGHT, THE FUNDING IS GOING UP WITH THE
14:10:20 PERCENTAGE AS A PORTION OF THE GENERAL FUND ACTUALLY GOES
14:10:23 DOWN.
14:10:25 NOT UNUSUAL.
14:10:26 I ANTICIPATE THAT WILL CONTINUE OFTEN FOREVER.
14:10:28 BUT IT'S A LITTLE COUNTERINTUITIVE, BUT I THIS I THIS GRAPH
14:10:31 DOES A VERY GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING THAT.
14:10:34 AS YOU CAN SEE, WE STILL ANTICIPATE A FUND BALANCE WELL
14:10:38 ABOVE OUR 20% POLICY, OUR 20% POLICY, AND I WILL SAY TO YOU
14:10:42 EXACTLY WHAT I SAY TO THE RATING AGENCIES.
14:10:44 IT IS A FOUR, NOT A FEELING.
14:10:48 WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A GOAL OF FUND BALANCE WELL IN ECONOMIES
14:10:51 OF OUR 20% POLICY.
14:10:53 AND I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL AGAIN FOR ALWAYS SHOWING SUPPORT
14:10:56 FOR VERY STRONG FUND BALANCES.
14:10:59 SO THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.
14:11:02 I WANT TO SAME WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES FACING US.
14:11:07 WHETHER YOU TALK ABOUT THE GLOBAL ECONOMY, THE SUPPLY CHAIN
14:11:12 CHALLENGES, THE POTENTIAL WAGE, PRICE SPIRAL, YOU MAY HEAR
14:11:17 ABOUT BRINGING IT DOWN EVEN LOCALLY, AS COUNCIL KNOWS, WE
14:11:20 ARE NEGOTIATING WITH ALL FOUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNITS
14:11:24 RIGHT NOW.
14:11:25 WE ARE EXPERIENCING THE HIGHEST INFLATION IN ABOUT 40 YEARS.
14:11:29 AND IN PART BECAUSE OF THAT INFLATION, MORE AND MORE EXPERTS
14:11:33 ARE TALKING ABOUT A POTENTIAL RECESSION A.RECESSION IS NOT
14:11:38 AN UNKNOWN PART OF THE BUSINESS CYCLE.
14:11:40 IT'S AN ACCEPTED PART OF THE BUSINESS CYCLE BUT OF COURSE
14:11:42 NOBODY WANTS TO GO THROUGH IT AND WE HOPE IT DOESN'T COME TO
14:11:45 THAT.
14:11:46 AS COUNCIL IS AWARE AND AS WE DISCUSSED AND WE WILL PROBABLY
14:11:50 DISCUSS AGAIN, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
14:11:52 CHALLENGES.
14:11:55 THE SUCCESS OF THE ALL FOR TRANSACTION INITIATIVE IS
14:11:58 UNCERTAIN.
14:11:59 THAT'S HOW I WILL PHRASE IT.
14:12:01 WHAT DO WE DO IF THAT DOESN'T PASS?
14:12:04 YOU WILL RECALL WE WERE CAUGHT ON OUR BACK FOOT WHEN IT
14:12:08 PASSED AND THE FUNDING WAS HELD IN ESCROW, REMAINS IN ESCROW
14:12:12 AND WE CAN'T ACCESS THAT FUNDING.
14:12:14 AS COUNCIL IS WELL AWARE AND AS WE HAVE ALSO PREVIOUSLY
14:12:17 DISCUSSED, THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX SUBSUN SETS IN 2026.
14:12:23 THAT WILL BE A SIZABLE VACUUM.
14:12:27 WE ANTICIPATE $27 MILLION THIS YEAR IN COMMUNITY INVESTMENT
14:12:32 TAX.
14:12:32 AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, WE RELY ON THAT TO HEAVILY FUND VEHICLE
14:12:38 REPLACEMENT INCLUDING PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLE REPLACEMENT.
14:12:42 WHAT WILL WE DO IF THAT FUNDING GOES AWAY?
14:12:46 ALL OF THAT AND WE STILL HAVE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE NEEDS
14:12:48 THAT WE HAVEN'T CAUGHT UP WITH FROM THE GREAT RECESSION.
14:12:52 WE WERE AND I THINK ARE DOING A GREAT JOB OF CATCHING UP BUT
14:12:56 WE ARE NOT THERE YET.
14:12:57 SO VERY STRONG FINANCIAL FOOTING, BUT AGAIN WE HAVE SOME
14:13:04 CHALLENGES.
14:13:05 I WILL SAY ONE FINAL THING ON A FUND BALANCE, AND STRONG
14:13:10 FUND BALANCES IN GENERAL.
14:13:12 PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, I KNOW WE HEARD
14:13:15 IN OUR PROFESSION, MORE AND MORE TALK ABOUT A FISCAL
14:13:19 SUSTAINABILITY, WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT, AND INCREASING TALK
14:13:23 AND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE DETERMINED FISCAL
14:13:27 SUSTAINABILITY CONTINUES TO GET MORE AND MORE PLAY, AND FOR
14:13:30 GOOD REASON, BEING ABLE TO SUSTAIN THESE UNKNOWN -- THESE
14:13:37 KNOWN UNKNOWNS, I THINK IT'S CALLED, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY
14:13:40 MANAGEMENT WILL TELL YOU, AND I MAY HAVE SAID IT BEFORE,
14:13:43 THINGS THAT HAVE NEVER HAPPENED HAPPEN ALL THE TIME, AND HOW
14:13:47 FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE ARE YOU AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO
14:13:51 WEATHER THESE UNKNOWNS?
14:13:59 I WOULD LIKE TO REFRESH FROM THE USE OF -- UNASSIGNED FUND
14:14:05 BALANCE ALREADY THIS YEAR.
14:14:06 WE HAVE USED ABOUT $9.5 MILLION TO FUND COUNCIL AND THE
14:14:11 MAYOR'S PRIORITIES THIS YEAR OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WAS
14:14:13 INCLUDED IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET.
14:14:16 YOU SEE IN THE LEFT MOST COLUMN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
14:14:19 SO FAR WE HAVE APPROPRIATED FOR THE FIRST TIME GENERAL
14:14:22 FUNDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING ASSISTANCE TO THE TUNE OF 6.5
14:14:27 MILLION.
14:14:28 IN THE MIDDLE COLUMN, WE SEE ABOUT $2 MILLION FOR FIRE
14:14:32 RESCUE, AGAIN OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WAS ALREADY ADOPTED.
14:14:36 AND THAT FINAL MILLION AT THE BOTTOM THERE, THAT'S THE TAMPA
14:14:40 GENERAL HOSPITAL, THAT IS RESEARCH ASSOCIATED WITH THE
14:14:44 PANDEMIC.
14:14:46 ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT, YOU WILL SEE WE STILL HAVE ABOUT
14:14:50 $3.5 MILLION THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE
14:14:54 THAT CAN STILL BE APPROPRIATED.
14:14:56 WE ANTICIPATE COMING TO COUNCIL IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, WE
14:15:01 HAVE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS LEFT IN THIS FISCAL YEAR TO
14:15:04 APPROPRIATE THAT FUNDING.
14:15:06 FOR ANYTHING FROM DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, FOR PARKS AND
14:15:09 RECREATION, AND THE MASTER PLAN TO POTENTIALLY MORE FUNDING
14:15:14 FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR TO SIMPLY RETAIN IT FOR
14:15:18 EMERGENCIES.
14:15:24 MOVING ONTO THE GENERAL FUND REVENUES, AND IN PARTICULAR, IN
14:15:29 THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, OUR SINGLE
14:15:33 LARGEST SOURCE OF REVENUE IN THE CITY.
14:15:36 IT IS JUST SLIGHTLY MORE, WE PROJECT, THAN IS BUDGETED,
14:15:41 ANOTHER INDICATION OF A VERY STRONG ENVIRONMENT.
14:15:43 THIS IS THE CITY'S NINTH YEAR IN A ROW OF INCREASES SINCE
14:15:47 THE GREAT RECESSION, ALTHOUGH THE PACE OF THE INCREASE IS
14:15:51 SLIGHTLY LESS THAN THE PREVIOUS TWO FISCAL YEARS.
14:15:55 IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS, WE'LL GET THE PRELIMINARY TAXABLE VALUES
14:15:58 FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
14:16:00 WE ANTICIPATE THEY WILL BE VERY STRONG.
14:16:03 YOU SEE A NICE STRONG UPWARD TRAJECTORY THERE, AND WE
14:16:07 ANTICIPATE MORE VERY STRONG PROPERTY TAX INFORMATION IN JUST
14:16:13 THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
14:16:16 THE ELECTRIC FRANCHISE FEES ARE NOTABLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE
14:16:20 REACHED PREPANDEMIC LEVEL.
14:16:21 WE ARE VERY PLEASED WITH THAT.
14:16:23 AT 30-ODD-MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, A CHUNK OF CHANGE THAT WE
14:16:27 RELY ON, AGAIN FOR OUR GENERAL FUND.
14:16:32 THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE HALF CENT SALES TAX.
14:16:35 YOU SEE IT'S VERY, VERY STRONG.
14:16:36 WE BUDGETED $38.1 MILLION.
14:16:39 WE THINK WE ARE GOING TO COLLECT $40 MILLION.
14:16:43 CONSUMER SPENDING REMAINS VERY, VERY ELEVATED.
14:16:47 IN FACT, THE LARGER QUESTION IS, CAN THAT CONSUMER SPENDING
14:16:50 STAY AT THAT LEVEL, AT ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF THE ENTIRE
14:16:54 U.S. ECONOMY, CONSUMER SPENDING IS A VERY BIG DRIVER.
14:16:58 WE IMPLEMENTED THE INTERNET SALES TAX, AND YOU SEE THAT AS A
14:17:03 RESULT THERE.
14:17:05 EVEN IN EXCESS OF WHAT WE PROJECTED.
14:17:07 AGAIN VERY, VERY STRONG.
14:17:13 OUR ELECTRIC UTILITY SERVICES TAX ON THE LEFT AND THE
14:17:16 COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES TAX ON THE LEFT, NOTABLE BECAUSE IT
14:17:19 IS CLIMBING TO ITS HIGHEST IN A NUMBER OF YEARS.
14:17:23 I WILL POINT OUT THE COMMUNICATION SERVICES TAX BECAUSE
14:17:27 DESPITE ITS LOWER TRAJECTORY, IT IS EVENING OUT, SOME
14:17:33 COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL RECALL IT USED TO BE TWICE THAT MUCH.
14:17:36 JUST ABOUT TEN OR SO YEARS AGO.
14:17:38 AND IT WAS -- IT DID, IT PRECIPITOUSLY DROPPED.
14:17:46 AGAIN, $17 MILLION IS $17 MILLION.
14:17:52 MOVING ON TO EXPENDITURES, AND ONE OF THE CITY'S BIGGEST
14:17:56 EXPENDITURES, BECAUSE OF COURSE NOTHING HAPPENS WITHOUT
14:17:58 PEOPLE.
14:18:00 PERSONNEL COSTS.
14:18:01 YOU SEE WE ARE ALMOST DEAD-ON IN OUR PROJECTION.
14:18:05 IT WOULD BE LOVELY TO BE COMING IN LESS, BUT WE ARE VERY
14:18:09 PLEASED WITH THE ACCURACY OF THE PROJECTIONS SO FAR, AND WE
14:18:13 ATTRIBUTE MUCH OF THAT TO THE OPEN GOV SOFTWARE THAT WE
14:18:17 TALKED ABOUT SO MUCH.
14:18:17 IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SANDBOXES, SLICED
14:18:21 AND DICED DATA IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT LEADS TO A
14:18:25 MORE ACCURATE PROJECTION.
14:18:27 SPEAKING OF OPEN GOV, AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST, WE HAVE
14:18:32 DEVELOPED A TRAINING CURRICULUM FOR THAT TOOL.
14:18:36 THE MORE I DISCOVER ABOUT IT THE MORE USEFUL I FIND IT SO WE
14:18:39 WILL BE REACHING OUT TO YOUR OFFICES TO SCHEDULE A TIME
14:18:42 BASED ON YOUR CALENDAR, AND YOUR INTEREST, TO WALK YOU
14:18:47 THROUGH THAT AND INSTRUCT YOU ON HOW TO GET THE MOST OUT OF
14:18:50 THAT VERY, VERY VALUABLE TOOL.
14:18:57 THE CITY CONTINUES TO ENJOY SOME OF THE BEST FUNDED PENSION
14:19:02 PROGRAMS IN THE UNITED STATES, A CREDIT TO THE MAYOR, TO
14:19:08 CITY COUNCIL, TO THE PENSION BOARDS, BOTH PAST AND CURRENT.
14:19:14 WE HAVE NEVER -- CITY HAS NEVER TAKEN A SO-CALLED PENSION
14:19:17 HOLIDAY.
14:19:18 EVERY YEAR, YEAR IN YEAR OUT, THROUGH GOOD TIMES AND BAD, WE
14:19:23 CONTRIBUTE EXACTLY WHAT WE ANTICIPATE CONTRACTING.
14:19:26 AND THAT HAS PAID OFF IN THE FUNDING -- YOU SEE FIRE AND
14:19:32 POLICE PENSION ON BUDGET, PLEASED TO SEE THAT.
14:19:34 THEY HAVE OOH FUNDING LEVEL OF 94%.
14:19:37 THAT IS AN ABSOLUTELY STELLAR FUNDED RATE, AND THE ENVY OF
14:19:42 NEARLY EVERY OTHER PENSION FUND IN THE U.S.
14:19:48 THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES PENSIONS, ALSO NO SLOUCH.
14:19:52 THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE EVENED OUT AND THEY ARE STILL
14:19:55 FUNDED AT NEARLY 90%.
14:19:57 AGAIN, A VERY, VERY STRONG FUNDED RATE, THE OVERWHELMING
14:20:02 MAJORITY OF OTHER PENSION FUNDS WOULD GLADLY TRADE FOR THAT
14:20:05 FUNDED RATE.
14:20:09 MOVING INTO THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE RUN LIKE A BUSINESS,
14:20:13 OUR ENTERPRISE FUND, THE PARKING DEPARTMENT.
14:20:15 THEY ARE RECOVERING NICELY.
14:20:17 IT WAS NOT TOO LONG AGO THAT THEY WERE BEING SUPPLEMENTED
14:20:20 FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
14:20:21 YOU SEE OUR BUDGET HAS BEEN SLIGHTLY INCREASING OUR FUND
14:20:25 BALANCE AT THE BOTTOM.
14:20:27 OVER ON THE RIGHT WE THINK THEY ARE GOING TO COME IN $5
14:20:29 MILLION AHEAD, VERY, VERY STRONG.
14:20:31 WE HAVE RECENTLY INSTITUTED THOSE PARKING RATES INCREASES
14:20:35 AND DEMAND IS COMING BACK FROM THE PANDEMIC.
14:20:39 THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF LEADS, SO THIS IS WELL TIMED.
14:20:43 MUCH OF OUR PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY
14:20:46 OUTDATED BUT IT COULD BE A LITTLE MORE TECHNICAL AND SOME OF
14:20:49 OUR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS REPAIR.
14:20:55 THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT WILL CONTINUE TO GET HIT JUST A
14:21:00 BIT HARDER, BUT AGAIN IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM, BETTER THAN
14:21:03 WE ANTICIPATED.
14:21:04 WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE EATING INTO THEIR FUND BALANCE FOR
14:21:07 ALMOST $12 MILLION.
14:21:08 WE THINK THEY'LL COME IN AT $9 MILLION, WHICH IS STILL $9
14:21:13 MILLION, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN WE ANTICIPATED.
14:21:16 THEY CONTINUE AS COUNCIL IS AWARE TO HAVE CAPITAL PROGRAM
14:21:20 NEEDS, THE WASTE TO ENERGY PLANT, THE NATURAL GAS STATIONS
14:21:25 AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
14:21:26 SO THEY ARE IN GOOD SHAPE, BUT THEY ARE EATING INTO THEIR
14:21:30 FUND BALANCE.
14:21:34 MOVING TO WASTEWATER, THEY WILL FINISH AHEAD AND EVEN BETTER
14:21:37 THAN WE ANTICIPATED.
14:21:39 THEY ARE PROJECTED TO SLIGHTLY INCREASE THEIR FUND BALANCE.
14:21:43 AND AGAIN, AS WE WILL SEE IN WATER IN JUST A MOMENT THAT IS
14:21:48 BY DESIGN, AS THEY VERY EXPENSIVE PROJECTS, PROGRAMMING,
14:21:53 DESIGN, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, INCREASING THEIR FUND BALANCES
14:21:56 IN OUR BEST INTEREST SO WE CAN SPEND IT ON DOWN THE LINE.
14:22:01 AND YOU CAN SEE THE WATER DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY STARTED
14:22:05 DOING THAT TO AN EXTENT.
14:22:06 WE FIGURED -- WE BUDGETED, EXCUSE ME, TO USE ABOUT $10
14:22:10 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.
14:22:12 WE ANTICIPATE THEY'LL COME TO THE YEAR AT ABOUT HALF THAT.
14:22:16 STILL VERY STRONG FROM A TOTAL PERSPECTIVE.
14:22:23 TURNING OUR ATTENTION TO WHAT WE AFFECTIONATELY CALL OTHER
14:22:26 PEOPLE'S MONEY OR OPM, THE MAYOR, WHEN SHE CAME INTO OFFICE,
14:22:31 MANDATED THAT WE AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE OUTSIDE FUNDING, AND WE
14:22:35 HAVE DONE JUST THAT.
14:22:39 COUNCIL WILL RECALL WE CONSOLIDATED OUR GRANT EFFORTS, SO
14:22:42 EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE, MAXIMIZING OUR CHANCE OF
14:22:45 GETTING FUNDING WELL COORDINATED, AND IT'S PAYING OFF.
14:22:49 WE ARE PURSUING OVER $100 MILLION-DOLLAR THIS YEAR.
14:22:54 I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT WE WILL NOT GET ALL OF IT BUT WE
14:22:58 HAVE BEEN WE HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL SINCE FISCAL YEAR
14:23:01 2020.
14:23:02 WE HAVE BROUGHT IN OVER $50 MILLION OF OUTSIDE GRANT
14:23:05 FUNDING, SO WE'LL CONTINUE THAT EFFORT.
14:23:07 I THINK WE HAVE GOT THE MOMENTUM.
14:23:09 AND IMPORTANTLY, I THINK THAT GRANTORS RECOGNIZE, SIMILAR TO
14:23:13 THE PIPES PROGRAM, THAT WE ARE GETTING THAT FUNDING OUT THE
14:23:16 DOOR, THAT WE ARE SPENDING IT.
14:23:23 WRAPPING UP, HERE IS THE BUDGET CALENDAR.
14:23:25 A COUPLE MORE MILESTONES.
14:23:27 OF COURSE, IT'S A LONG WAY FROM RIGHT NOW TO AUGUST 4th
14:23:31 BUT THAT IS WHEN THE MAYOR WILL PRESENT HER RECOMMENDED
14:23:34 BUDGET TO YOU, TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND IN BETWEEN THEN
14:23:37 WE'LL HAVE MEETINGS, WE'LL HAVE THE CITIZENS ADVISORY
14:23:39 COMMITTEE, ET CETERA.
14:23:42 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CLOSE BY SAYING IF YOU WALK AWAY FROM
14:23:47 ANYTHING IN THIS PRESENTATION, WHAT YOU CAN AWAY WITH THE
14:23:49 KNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE IN A VERY STRONG POSITION, BUT AGAIN
14:23:52 WE HAVE GOT QUITE A FEW CHALLENGES AHEAD OF US.
14:23:57 THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR INTEREST AND TIME.
14:24:00 WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, OR IF WE CAN'T, WE'LL
14:24:05 COME BACK TO YOU ASAP.
14:24:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
14:24:09 MR. ROGERO, YOU MENTIONED THESE THINGS, NOT DIRECTLY BUT
14:24:14 INDIRECTLY.
14:24:15 THE HALF CENT SALES TAX, THE GAS TAX AND THE COMMUNICATION
14:24:21 TAX.
14:24:23 I BELIEVE ALL THESE THREE ARE GOING TO TAKE A HIT VERY SOON.
14:24:27 AND THE HALF CENT SALES TAX A LITTLE LATER THAN SOONER, BUT
14:24:32 STILL IN 2026 THAT'S AROUND THE CORNER, AND UP TO NOW I HAVE
14:24:36 HEARD NO MOVEMENT OF NICHE REPLACEMENT OF THAT.
14:24:39 THE GAS TAX AS WE ARE CHANGING OUR WAYS OF LIVING FROM
14:24:44 DRIVING GAS GUZZLERS TO ELECTRIC OR HYBRID TRANSMISSION AND
14:24:51 STUFF, IS ONE THING.
14:24:54 THE OTHER THING IS THE COMMUNICATION TAX.
14:24:57 IN MY OPINION WILL CONTINUE TO DECREASE, NOT ALWAYS BUT
14:25:02 SOME.
14:25:02 SO THOSE ARE THE THREE CHALLENGES, WITHOUT LOOKING TOO MUCH
14:25:06 INTO THE FUTURE.
14:25:07 BUT I THINK THAT THE GAS TAX IN 2025-26 WITH ALSO THE HALF
14:25:13 PENNY SALES TAX THIS YEAR UNDER 5% OF THE CARS SOLD THIS
14:25:16 YEAR WILL BE ELECTRIC.
14:25:17 BUT IT WAS ZERO PERCENT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO.
14:25:21 SO IF WE WENT UP 5,000%, MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.
14:25:27 IT'S UP FROM ZERO.
14:25:28 SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE THINGS, YOU HAVE TO GET, IN MY
14:25:31 OPINION, SOME CONSIDERATION, AND IT'S A GUESSING GAME WHAT'S
14:25:35 GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
14:25:37 YOU HAVE GOT TO BE A FORECASTER, YOU HAVE TO GO SEE A
14:25:41 PSYCHIATRIST TO SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE BECAUSE THEY ARE
14:25:43 GOING TO DRIVE YOU CRAZY.
14:25:45 THE HALF CENT SALES TAX AND THE 2026, THAT'S THE LAST BITE
14:25:51 AT THE APPLE.
14:25:52 THE GAS TAX WILL CONTINUE TO DIMINISH ITSELF AS WE GO MORE
14:25:55 AND MORE INTO TRANSITION OF WHAT OTHER FORMS OTHER THAN
14:25:58 PETROLEUM.
14:25:59 AND THE COMMUNICATION TAX SAME THING IN A WAY.
14:26:02 SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I SEE WHOEVER SITS HERE ON THIS
14:26:07 SIDE AND ON THAT SIDE, IT'S GOING TO HAVE A CHALLENGE IN THE
14:26:10 NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
14:26:14 >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
14:26:15 I AGREE.
14:26:16 I AGREE.
14:26:17 IT'S NOT IF, IT'S WHEN.
14:26:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: UNLESS WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF REPLACEMENT.
14:26:24 WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE YOU BY THE MILE THAT YOU DRIVE YOUR
14:26:27 CAR.
14:26:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM MORE THAN WILLING TO PAY MY FAIR
14:26:30 SHARE.
14:26:32 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:26:33 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, MR. ROGERO, FOR GETTING THIS OUT
14:26:37 EARLY AND QUICKLY.
14:26:38 I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME, BUT AS I REMEMBER
14:26:41 IT, 2018 THE BUDGET WAS AROUND 900 MILLION, MAYBE A LITTLE
14:26:46 MORE.
14:26:46 SO NOW THE TOTAL IS ABOUT 1.8.
14:26:49 CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN FOR THE PUBLIC WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS?
14:26:52 IF SOMEBODY JUST LOOKED AT THIS, THEY WOULD SAY YOU HAVE GOT
14:26:55 100% IN THREE YEARS AND CHANGE.
14:26:57 CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THAT?
14:26:59 >>DENNIS ROGERO: ABSOLUTELY.
14:27:00 AND I UNDERSTAND THAT PERCEPTION.
14:27:02 I WOULD START WITH THE AGGRESSIVE USE OF CAPITAL
14:27:06 IMPROVEMENTS.
14:27:07 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN HAS ALSO RUN APPRECIABLY MUCH OF IT
14:27:13 DUE TO THE PIPES PROGRAM BUT NOT ALL OF IT BUT I WILL TAKE
14:27:16 THAT THREAD OF WHY WE ARE PURSUING THE PIPES PROGRAM SO
14:27:19 AGGRESSIVELY.
14:27:20 WE HAVE MANY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT NEEDS THAT FOR WHATEVER
14:27:23 REASON THE CITY AS A WHOLE HASN'T DONE OVER TIME AND WE ARE
14:27:29 TRYING TO PLAY A LOT OF CATCH-UP.
14:27:31 THAT'S A LOT OF FUNDING AND EACH FISCAL YEAR WHEN WE ADOPT
14:27:34 THE FIRST PORTION OF THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, IT
14:27:36 ELEVATES OUR TOTAL BUDGET.
14:27:38 YOU ALSO HAVE OF COURSE THE COST OF LIVING, WHETHER IT'S
14:27:42 INFLATION, WHETHER IT'S THE OF MATERIALS, WHETHER IT'S
14:27:46 NEGOTIATED PAY INCREASE AND BENEFITS AND HEALTH INSURANCE
14:27:49 COSTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
14:27:51 WE CAN PROVIDE A BETTER ITEMIZATION, BUT AS WE ARE GOING
14:27:54 THROUGH, WE ARE AGGRESSIVELY PURSUING PROJECTS AND COSTS ARE
14:27:58 GOING UP BOTH HUMAN COSTS AND OPERATING COSTS.
14:28:01 >>BILL CARLSON: CONSIDERING ALL THE ECONOMIC ISSUES YOU AND
14:28:08 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MENTIONED WHICH I ALSO AGREE WITH, DO YOU
14:28:13 ALL DO SOME KIND OF SENSITIVITY TEMPERATURES TO SAY PLUS OR
14:28:17 MINUS 20%?
14:28:19 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, WE DO, AND I WILL ANSWER THAT
14:28:22 QUESTION A LITTLE MORE FULLY.
14:28:23 WE ENTERTAIN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS BASED ON WHAT
14:28:26 CAN HAPPEN AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, WHAT CAN HAPPEN AT THE STATE
14:28:28 LEVEL, WHAT CAN HAPPEN AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL.
14:28:30 >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEN ON THE FUND BALANCE, THANK YOU FOR
14:28:38 BEING AGGRESSIVE ABOUT SOMETHING -- I KNOW I PUSHED FOR
14:28:41 STARTING AT 99, AND I THINK OTHERS AS WELL, ABOUT YOU
14:28:45 KNOWING THAT WE MAY BE FACING THE LOWER SIDE OF THE
14:28:50 SENSITIVITY TEST, IT WILL BE GREAT TO PUT AS MUCH AS
14:28:52 POSSIBLE IN THERE, BECAUSE NEXT YEAR COULD BE REALLY
14:28:56 DIFFERENT THAN LAST YEAR, JUST LIKE IN 2019, WE DON'T KNOW
14:29:00 EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
14:29:02 ON THE ELECTRIC UTILITY SERVICE TAX, DO YOU THINK MOST OF
14:29:05 THIS INCREASES BECAUSE OF COUNCILMEMBER CITRO AND COUNCILMAN
14:29:10 MEMBER MIRANDA --
14:29:12 [ LAUGHTER ]
14:29:15 BAD JOKE, SORRY.
14:29:18 THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES PENSION, SO IF YOU LOOK AT FIRE AND
14:29:21 POLICE, OKAY, IT'S EXPENDITURES, BUT IT'S GOING UP.
14:29:29 ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES PENSION IS A
14:29:32 GOOD PLACE FISCALLY?
14:29:36 >>DENNIS ROGERO: I AM.
14:29:37 AND THANK YOU.
14:29:38 IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON A FEW THINGS OF COURSE, NOT ONLY PAY
14:29:43 AND BENEFIT INCREASES BUT THE PERFORMANCE OF THE INDIVIDUAL
14:29:46 FUND.
14:29:48 TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, I THINK THEY ARE BOTH IN VERY,
14:29:51 VERY GOOD SHAPE.
14:29:51 I SIT ON BOTH PENSION BOARDS.
14:29:54 THEY ARE WELL RUN.
14:29:55 WE HAVE VERY GOOD PENSION PROFESSIONALS, BOTH FROM A LEGAL
14:30:00 AND FUNDING PERSPECTIVE.
14:30:02 >>BILL CARLSON: ON THE GRANTS, WE DON'T SEE THIS OVER TIME.
14:30:08 DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE GRANTS WERE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT
14:30:11 WAS TEN YEARS AGO OR FIVE YEARS AGO COMPARED TO TODAY?
14:30:15 REASONING ROGERO I DO NOT.
14:30:16 I DON'T KNOW IF OUR BUDGET OFFICER DOES.
14:30:18 BUT IF HE DOESN'T, WE CAN PROVIDE IT.
14:30:24 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAID -- IF THE NUMBER HAS GONE WAY UP
14:30:29 BECAUSE OF CONSOLIDATION THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THE MAYOR
14:30:31 SHOULD BRAG ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S SHOWS IT'S WORKING.
14:30:33 IF IT DIDN'T, I GUESS WE CAN LOOK AT IT.
14:30:35 >> MIKE CURRY, BUDGET OFFICER.
14:30:38 BEFORE WE HIRED CAPTAIN HAYES AS THE GRANT SUPERVISOR, WE
14:30:41 WERE ABOUT 2 TO $3 MILLION PER YEAR.
14:30:44 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
14:30:45 >> REALLY ORGANIZED, EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE, VERY
14:30:49 KNOWLEDGEABLE, AND HER TEAM NOT ONLY GETTING THE GRANTS, THE
14:30:55 GRANT APPLICATION, BUT ALSO HOW TO DO THE RESEARCH.
14:30:58 I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
14:30:59 WE HAVE NEVER RECEIVED COMPETITIVE HOUSING GRANTS, AND WE
14:31:02 HAVE DONE TWO THIS YEAR.
14:31:04 SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE GROUP.
14:31:07 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, CONGRATS.
14:31:09 ANOTHER QUESTION.
14:31:10 I SAW PAYROLL HAS GONE UP, BUT I ASSUME A LOT OF THAT IS
14:31:15 BECAUSE WE ARE ADDING PEOPLE BACK IN FROM ALL THE CUTS FROM
14:31:17 THE GREAT RECESSION AND EVERYTHING.
14:31:19 BUT DO YOU FEEL LIKE ECONOMISTS ARE SAYING NOW YOU HAVE TO
14:31:22 GIVE A 5 OR 7% RAISE JUST TO STAY EVEN WITH INFLATION.
14:31:26 DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE ARE STAYING EVEN WITH INFLATION ON
14:31:29 EMPLOYEES?
14:31:30 >> THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION, IT GENUINELY IS, BECAUSE
14:31:34 THAT IS ENTERING INTO OUR DISCUSSION AS WE NEGOTIATE THE
14:31:37 COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT, AND I AM SURE YOU WILL SEE AND
14:31:41 HEAR SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION TAKING PLACE NATIONWIDE.
14:31:45 BUT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF INFLATION IN 40 YEARS.
14:31:48 THE QUESTION, OF COURSE, WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, HOW
14:31:53 LONG IS IT GOING TO LAST?
14:31:54 HAS IT PEAKED AND WHEN IT START TO GO DOWN AGAIN?
14:31:58 SMARTER PEOPLE THAN I DON'T KNOW.
14:32:00 SO I SIMPLY DON'T KNOW.
14:32:02 BUT WE ARE CONSIDERING THAT AS ONE OF THE VARIABLES, NOT
14:32:05 ONLY IN FORECASTING EXPENDITURES FOR THE FUTURE, BUT IN
14:32:09 NEGOTIATIONS.
14:32:09 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE LAST QUESTION IF I COULD.
14:32:12 THE GENERAL FUND, 484 MILLION, I DIDN'T SEE A CHART, WHEN DO
14:32:20 YOU EXPECT THAT TO IN 2023, AND IS THERE -- ONCE YOU ACCOUNT
14:32:25 FOR INFLATION, IS THERE SOME BUCKET OF MONEY?
14:32:28 WE KNOW THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE ASKING FOR PARKS AND
14:32:31 SIDEWALKS AND ALL KIND OF THINGS.
14:32:34 IS THERE ANY BUDGET OF MONEY WE CAN TALK ABOUT APPLYING OR
14:32:37 IS ALL OF IT GOING TO GO TOWARD INFLATION?
14:32:42 REASONING ROGERO THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD QUESTION.
14:32:43 IF I AM LOOKING FORWARD, I THINK A COMPONENT WILL CERTAINLY
14:32:47 NEED FOR INFLATION BUT THIS WILL BE PART OF FISCAL YEAR 23
14:32:50 BUDGET PROCESS, BOTH WITH ADVISORY COMMITTEE, A PORTION,
14:32:56 YES, WILL BE EATEN UP BY INFLATION.
14:32:59 I THINK THERE WILL BE A PORTION FOR EXPANSION OF OPERATING
14:33:02 EXPENSES, THINGS WE WANT TO DO, OR THINGS -- WE HAVE ALSO
14:33:08 GOT AN UNKNOWN, PAY INCREASE, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL COME TO
14:33:11 FRUITION AS WE FINISH NEGOTIATION, AND WE ARE ALSO AGAIN
14:33:16 ENTERTAINING THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH BENEFIT INCREASES,
14:33:19 HEALTH INCREASES, INSURANCE INCREASES.
14:33:22 THAT'S A VERY LONG WAY OF SAYING, AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T
14:33:25 KNOW.
14:33:25 BUT WHAT I ANTICIPATE, IT WILL BE A TWO-PRONGED EFFORT.
14:33:30 FIGHTING INFLATION AND WHATEVER ELSE WE WOULD LIKE TO DO.
14:33:34 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
14:33:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:33:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK COUNCILMAN CARLSON TALKED ABOUT
14:33:40 INFLATION.
14:33:41 HAVE YOU TAKEN INTO THAT INTO CONSIDERATION?
14:33:43 A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC THINK THAT GOVERNMENT IS
14:33:45 IMMUNE TO INFLATION.
14:33:47 WE HAVE TO PAY THE SAME INCREASES AS ANYBODY ELSE.
14:33:50 NUMBER ONE.
14:33:51 NUMBER TWO, WHEN YOU DID YOUR CALCULATION ON THE BUDGET, DID
14:33:53 YOU MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICE AND FIRE WAS CALCULATED AT
14:33:57 100% OR 95%, OR WHATEVER THEY NEED?
14:34:01 I DON'T KNOW THEIR RATIO, IF THEY ARE AT 100% OR 80% OR 90
14:34:05 BETTERS DO.?
14:34:07 >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DO.
14:34:08 IT'S MORE COMPLICATED THAN I AM GOING TO ANSWER BUT I THINK
14:34:10 IT WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
14:34:12 WITH TIME OFF, WITH VACANCIES, AND THE TIME OFF ANNUAL
14:34:17 LEAVE, SICK LEAVE, ET CETERA, WE HAVE A SERIES OF
14:34:20 CALCULATIONS TO FUND FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR, WHAT WE THINK THE
14:34:25 EXPENDITURE IS GOING TO BE FOR OUR FULL COMPLEMENT OF THE
14:34:28 POSITION.
14:34:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR CALCULATION?
14:34:32 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
14:34:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:34:37 GOOD JOB.
14:34:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
14:34:40 >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:34:41 I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND QUESTIONS.
14:34:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVING ON TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW
14:34:46 BUSINESS.
14:34:47 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:34:58 >>BILL CARLSON: LISA CHESHIRE PASSED AWAY, AND WE GAVE HER
14:35:02 A COMMENDATION A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WHILE SHE WAS STILL
14:35:05 ALIVE, BUT I WANT FOR HER FAMILY SAKE AND COMMUNITY SAKE, WE
14:35:09 ALL WILL MISS HER, BUT OTHERS WILL STEP UP TO SUPPORT THE
14:35:13 EFFORT THAT SHE WAS INVOLVED IN.
14:35:14 SECOND, I AM GOING TO BE OUT OF THE COUNTRY ON A BUSINESS
14:35:20 TRIP JUNE 2nd, AND I HAVE TWO ITEMS SCHEDULED ON JUNE
14:35:24 2nd THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE, THE SECOND AND THIRD ONE
14:35:30 FROM THE BOTTOM, BE ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE TEN DAYS NOTICE,
14:35:33 AND THE OTHER ONE ON PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT PRESENTING COST
14:35:37 SAVINGS.
14:35:38 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THOSE TO JUNE
14:35:40 16th, PLEASE.
14:35:41 >> SECOND.
14:35:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:35:46 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:35:50 LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
14:35:51 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
14:35:54 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:35:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:35:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:35:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:35:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:36:00 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
14:36:02 ABSENT.
14:36:02 >>BILL CARLSON: ON JUNE 16th, I WONDER IF WE COULD ADD
14:36:06 A STAFF REPORT FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE
14:36:11 STAFF AND OTHER -- IN THE CITY ON PARKING SITUATION ON DEKLE
14:36:18 AVENUE IN SOUTH TAMPA, AND IT IS SOMEWHAT REPRESENTATIVE OF
14:36:21 THE CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE REST OF THE CITY, AND
14:36:23 I WONDER IF WE COULD JUST -- IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'LL
14:36:26 HAVE TO DO A NEW REPORT.
14:36:27 THEY ARE ALREADY IN THE MIDDLE OF IT SO I JUST ASK FOR THEM
14:36:30 TO GIVE A PUBLIC UPDATE ON THE DEKLE AVENUE PARKING
14:36:33 SITUATION ON JUNE 16th.
14:36:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
14:36:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:36:40 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:36:43 DO YOU WANT TO PUT A TIME ON THAT?
14:36:46 >>BILL CARLSON: ON HOW LONG?
14:36:50 NOT MORE THAN TEN MINUTES.
14:36:51 THANK YOU.
14:36:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
14:36:52 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
14:36:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:36:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:37:01 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
14:37:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:37:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:37:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:37:06 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
14:37:08 ABSENT.
14:37:09 >>BILL CARLSON: THE LAST ONE IS RELATED TO THAT, IF WE
14:37:12 COULD ALSO ON JUNE 16th HAVE A STAFF REPORT ON ANY
14:37:16 CHANGES STAFF MIGHT RECOMMEND AND IF THEY NEED MORE TIME
14:37:20 THEY CAN COME BACK AND ASK FOR IT.
14:37:23 WHAT CHANGES STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND FOR THE ZONING AND
14:37:28 PERMITTING RESTAURANTS IN THE FUTURE.
14:37:32 THERE'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION BECAUSE OF COVID AND THE
14:37:36 DELIVERY SERVICES WHERE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR
14:37:39 RESTAURANTS IS CHANGING, AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME RESTAURANTS
14:37:43 THAT ARE MORE GEARED TOWARD DELIVERY SERVICES THAN FOR
14:37:48 EAT-IN, SO THIS WOULD BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER WE NEED
14:37:52 TO HAVE A SEPARATE CATEGORY FOR RESTAURANTS THAT ARE MOSTLY
14:37:56 DELIVERY SERVICES.
14:37:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
14:38:04 MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:38:06 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:38:07 ALL IN FAVOR -- ROLL CALL VOTE.
14:38:10 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
14:38:15 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
14:38:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
14:38:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
14:38:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
14:38:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:38:20 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
14:38:22 ABSENT.
14:38:23 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE LAST, LAST THING.
14:38:26 NOT A MOTION BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS THE
14:38:29 PROCESS AND FORMAT FOR MONDAY.
14:38:33 MY PROPOSAL IS THAT WE EACH JUST GO DOWN THE LINE, AND
14:38:37 DEPENDING -- YOU ARE THE CHAIR SO YOU DECIDE THIS, BUT WE
14:38:41 WOULD EACH PROPOSAL WHATEVER WE PROPOSE, WE HAVE A
14:38:43 DISCUSSION, WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND VOTE ON WHAT WE ASK
14:38:46 STAFF TO BRING BACK TO US.
14:38:48 YOU MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT THOUGHT BUT I JUST 2022 THROW IT ON
14:38:50 THE TABLE.
14:38:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COUNCIL PERSON WOULD LIKE TO
14:38:53 SPEAK TO THAT?
14:38:55 >>LYNN HURTAK: I THOUGHT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A
14:39:00 FACILITATOR.
14:39:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE DO.
14:39:02 AND THE FACILITATOR IS THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO BE LEADING
14:39:05 THE CONVERSATION.
14:39:07 IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WOULD BE AN
14:39:13 INTERPRETATION, AND THE DISCUSSION WITH THE FACILITATOR AND
14:39:17 THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT WOULD LEAD TO ANY TYPE OF MOTION OR
14:39:21 ACTION TAKEN AFTER THAT.
14:39:23 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD SAY WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION
14:39:27 ON THIS BUT SUGGEST FOR EXPEDIENCE SAKE THAT WE ASK THE
14:39:30 CHAIR TO COORDINATE WITH THE FACILITATOR AND WITH MARTY ON
14:39:35 THIS.
14:39:35 AND SEVERAL OF US WERE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION WITH
14:39:37 YOU, SO I PUT TRIED TO PUT TOGETHER A FORMAT --
14:39:43 >> AND MR. SHELBY AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING.
14:39:49 HE TALKED WITH THE FACILITATOR AND I EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS.
14:39:53 AND THE FACILITATOR WILL BE LEADING THIS MEETING.
14:39:55 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY, THANK YOU.
14:39:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND WHILE WE ARE ON THAT SUBJECT, HIS
14:40:05 CONCERN TO ME ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT THAT DAY, AND MY CONCERN
14:40:09 IS THIS.
14:40:11 THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE PAYING FOR THE FACILITATOR, WHO IS
14:40:15 SUPPOSED TO BE HERE FROM 9:00 UNTIL 12:00.
14:40:19 THE PUBLIC COMMENT TENDS TO TAKE AN HOUR AND A HALF.
14:40:23 THAT'S AN HOUR AND A HALF OF THE FACILITATOR'S TIME.
14:40:27 IT IS MY OPINION, I WOULD LIKE TO SEPARATE THE PUBLIC
14:40:30 COMMENT.
14:40:31 WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT COMES FROM PEOPLE, BUT IT'S JUST
14:40:35 PUBLIC COMMENT.
14:40:36 IF SOMEONE WISHES TO COMMENT ON ANY ACTION, OR ANY COMMENTS
14:40:44 THAT ARE FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW, I WOULD ASK THEM TO MAKE
14:40:49 THEIR COMMENTS AFTER THE FACILITATOR CLOSES AND BEFORE ANY
14:40:54 ACTION IS TAKEN BY US.
14:40:58 I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DEFINE THAT DOWN, BUT THAT WOULD BE
14:41:01 MY SUGGESTION.
14:41:02 MR. MASSEY.
14:41:04 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK WE COULD ARRANGE IT THAT WAY.
14:41:07 THE IMPORTANT THING IS BEFORE YOU TAKE ANY ACTION --
14:41:11 >> PUBLIC COMMENT, YES.
14:41:12 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU DO NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE
14:41:14 YOU TAKE ANY FORMAL ACTION.
14:41:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DAY I WOULD LIKE TO
14:41:17 HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
14:41:19 BUT IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO TALK TO ANYTHING CONCERNING THE
14:41:22 CHARTER REVIEW OR THE CHARTER REVISIONS OR THE DISCUSSION OR
14:41:25 THE INTERPRETATION WOULD BE DONE AFTER EVERYTHING IS SAID
14:41:29 AND DONE BEFORE THE ACTUAL STATEMENT.
14:41:32 >>MORRIS MASSEY: IT'S YOUR WORKSHOP SO I THINK WE CAN
14:41:34 ESTABLISH THAT AND COME UP WITH A RULE THAT WORKS, BUT WANT
14:41:38 TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE YOU ALL
14:41:41 TAKE FORMAL ACTION.
14:41:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
14:41:44 >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOING TO DISAGREE WITH THAT, BECAUSE I
14:41:49 GENERALLY FIND THAT PUBLIC COMMENT OFTEN DRIVES THE MEETING
14:41:53 TO SOME DEGREE, AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO DRIVE THE MEETING,
14:41:57 ESPECIALLY WITH THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
14:42:00 SO I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE BEFORE WE START TO
14:42:05 DISCUSS.
14:42:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
14:42:11 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
14:42:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST TIME,
14:42:15 PUBLIC SPOKE ABOUT CONCERNS THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT AND
14:42:19 THEN TOOK ON THE FACILITATOR.
14:42:23 I DON'T KNOW IF AN HOUR FOR THE FACILITATOR, AND IN CASE WE
14:42:29 DO GO OVER.
14:42:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FROM WHAT I AM UNDERSTANDING, SHE'S JUST
14:42:34 BEING PAID FOR THOSE THREE HOURS.
14:42:36 THAT'S THE REASON WHY I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT OUR DISCUSSION
14:42:39 WHAT MAY BE AN HOUR AND A HALF.
14:42:41 SO WE CAN GO THIS ROUTE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE MY
14:42:45 OPINION KNOWN.
14:42:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAIN, ALL I AM SAYING IS YOU AND MR.
14:42:54 SHELBY CAN GET WITH THE FACILITATOR, AND YOU ARE RIGHT, WE
14:43:01 ARE GOING TO MISS THE HOUR.
14:43:04 NOW, WHEN SHE GETS HERE, HER PAYMENT, WHATEVER, PUBLIC
14:43:13 COMMENT.
14:43:13 >>BILL CARLSON: IS IT POSSIBLE TO SHIFT HER TO 10 TO 1
14:43:17 INSTEAD OF 9 TO 12?
14:43:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT IS ALREADY 9 TO 12.
14:43:23 SHE'S ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR THAT.
14:43:25 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
14:43:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEW BUSINESS?
14:43:30 I WOULD LIKE TO WISH MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE LISA A HAPPY
14:43:34 BIRTHDAY.
14:43:34 AND YOU WILL SEE HER ON MONDAY.
14:43:36 BUT HAPPY EARLY BIRTHDAY TO LISA.
14:43:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
14:43:41 ANYTHING ELSE?
14:43:42 >> THAT'S IT.
14:43:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN HURTAK?
14:43:46 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
14:43:47 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
14:43:53 I PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO MR. MARVIN KNIGHT, CELEBRATING
14:43:58 HIS RETIREMENT FROM TECO, AND HIS SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
14:44:04 MR. KNIGHT WORKS FOR TECO.
14:44:06 HE HAS A DEGREE IN ELECTRIC TECHNOLOGY AND COMPUTER
14:44:10 ELECTRONICS.
14:44:11 MR. KNIGHT IS VERY ACTIVE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND IS A
14:44:14 MEMBER OF THE WEST TAMPA CRA, CAC, AND DID SOLOMON BOYS AND
14:44:22 GIRLS CLUB.
14:44:23 AND I WILL PRESENT THIS TO HIM OFF-SITE ON SUNDAY.
14:44:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN CITRO,
14:44:29 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MEMBER MIRANDA.
14:44:31 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:44:32 ANY OPPOSED?
14:44:33 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
14:44:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S IT FOR ME.
14:44:36 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED
14:44:39 BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
14:44:40 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:44:42 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
14:45:38 [ MEETING ADJOURNED ]
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