TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JUNE 9, 2022
5:01 P.M.
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17:01:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR MEETING US THIS EVENING
17:01:54 ON JUNE 9, 2022.
17:01:59 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
17:02:00 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
17:02:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
17:02:03 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
17:02:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
17:02:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
17:02:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
17:02:08 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.
17:02:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:02:09 MR. MASSEY.
17:02:11 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, SIR.
17:02:15 THIS IS THE JUNE 9, 2022 EVENING MEETING OF THE
17:02:20 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF OLD CITY
17:02:25 HALL 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD HERE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
17:02:29 THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND IN PERSON OR REVIEW IT ON CABLE
17:02:33 TELEVISION SPECTRUM 640 AND CHANNEL 15.
17:02:37 AND BY THE INTERNET, TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
17:02:39 THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING
17:02:43 THIS EVENING EITHER NEAR PERSON IN CITY COUNCIL
17:02:46 CHAMBERS OR VIRTUALLY BY WAY OF COMMUNICATION MEDIA
17:02:48 TECHNOLOGY OR CMT.
17:02:52 HOWEVER THE USE OF CMT DOES REQUIRE PREREGISTRATION
17:02:54 WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
17:02:55 DIRECTIONS ARE INCLUDED IN THE NOTICE OF THE MEETING
17:02:57 AND ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
17:03:00 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE IN QUASI-JUDICIAL
17:03:05 MATTERS REMOTELY BY CMT BUT CELL PHONES AND SMARTPHONES
17:03:08 ARE NOT COMPATIBLE BECAUSE WILL NOT ALLOW YOUR CAMERA
17:03:11 WHEN CONNECTED.
17:03:15 YOU HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO A CMT, A TABLET OR COMPUTER
17:03:17 EQUIPPED WITH A CAMERA AND MICROPHONE ENABLE TO YOU BE
17:03:21 SEEN AND HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL AND ALL OTHER
17:03:23 PARTICIPATE NANCY A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER.
17:03:27 CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE RULES FOR PUBLIC
17:03:29 COMMENT BY CMT?
17:03:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
17:03:32 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
17:03:34 ROLL CALL VOTE.
17:03:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
17:03:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
17:03:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
17:03:44 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
17:03:45 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
17:03:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
17:03:50 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT.
17:03:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: STAFF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO OVER THE
17:04:00 AGENDA?
17:04:03 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH, ZAIN HUSSEIN,
17:04:04 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
17:04:07 I WOULD LIKE TO CLEAR A FEW ITEMS OFF THE AGENDA.
17:04:12 GOING TO THE AGENDA HERE, WE HAVE REZ 22-26, AGENDA
17:04:13 ITEM NUMBER 6.
17:04:17 CANNOT BE HEARD DUE TO MISNOTICE.
17:04:18 >> MOVE TO REMOVE.
17:04:18 >> SECOND.
17:04:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
17:04:22 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
17:04:24 ALL IN FAVOR.
17:04:25 ANY OPPOSED.
17:04:25 THANK YOU.
17:04:26 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
17:04:30 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, ALSO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.
17:04:32 THIS IS FOR THE SAME ADDRESSES.
17:04:39 THE ADDRESSES ARE 901 AND 915 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE.
17:04:41 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO DECEMBER
17:04:43 8, 2021.
17:04:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEMS 3 AND 8 TO
17:04:50 DECEMBER 28, 2022 AT 5:01 P.M.
17:04:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
17:04:53 MANISCALCO.
17:04:56 SECOND, I BELIEVE, BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
17:05:00 ANY DISCUSSION?
17:05:04 I WOULD LIKE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT THIS IS NOT
17:05:12 DIRECTED TO ANYONE; HOWEVER, THIS COUNCIL IS -- HAS
17:05:20 DECIDED TO MEET ON EXTRA DAYS.
17:05:23 WHEN SOMETHING COMES BEFORE US, I HOPE THE PUBLIC IS
17:05:29 AWARE THAT WE HAVE DECIDED TO MEET ON EXTRA DAYS.
17:05:34 AND WHEN THEY MISNOTICE OR THEY ASK FOR CONTINUANCES,
17:05:38 THAT IS GOING AGAINST WHAT THIS COUNCIL HAS PROPOSED BY
17:05:42 MEETING ON EXTRA DAYS.
17:05:44 I HAD TO PUT THAT OUT THERE IN THE UNIVERSE FOR THE
17:05:46 RECORD.
17:05:52 HUSSEIN, MOVING IT THIS FAR OUT ON THESE TWO AGENDA
17:05:58 ITEMS, DOES THAT GO BEYOND OUR 120 DAYS?
17:06:00 >>MORRIS MASSEY: 180 DAYS.
17:06:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: 180 DAYS.
17:06:03 >>MORRIS MASSEY: IS THE APPLICANT HERE?
17:06:06 I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A WAIVER OF THE 180-DAY
17:06:08 REQUIREMENT FROM THE APPLICANT.
17:06:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
17:06:13 >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
17:06:18 YES, WE DO REQUEST A WAIVER OF THE 180 DAYS.
17:06:22 IN WAS NOT DONE FRIVOLOUSLY AT ALL, COUNCIL.
17:06:24 I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
17:06:27 WE HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO RESOLVE SITE PLAN
17:06:30 ISSUES AND REQUIRES ADDITIONAL MEETINGS WITH CITY
17:06:32 STAFF, THE NEIGHBORS AND ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
17:06:36 SO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE COUNCIL, WE DO
17:06:39 RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THEY WAIVE THE 180 DAYS AND
17:06:41 CONTINUE THESE HEARINGS.
17:06:45 THE CITY STAFF IS THE ONE THAT GAVE US THE DATE OF
17:06:47 DECEMBER 8 TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT TIME SO WE
17:06:49 WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR ANY OTHER
17:06:53 CONTINUANCES IN THE FUTURE.
17:06:55 >> MOVE TO WAIVE.
17:06:56 >> SECOND.
17:06:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU WERE THE SECOND
17:07:00 ON -- MOVING IT.
17:07:03 DO YOU CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
17:07:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
17:07:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:07:07 WE STILL HAVE THAT MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COUNCILMAN
17:07:07 MANISCALCO.
17:07:10 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH THE AMENDMENT OF
17:07:12 WAIVING THE 180S.
17:07:13 ROLL CALL VOTE.
17:07:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
17:07:15 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
17:07:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
17:07:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
17:07:18 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
17:07:19 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
17:07:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
17:07:23 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
17:07:26 >>LUIS VIERA: --
17:07:27 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
17:07:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
17:07:32 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT YOU TO SAY THAT.
17:07:36 ON AN AGENDA LIKE TONIGHT, GOOD NEWS IS MAYBE WE WILL
17:07:39 GET HOME EARLIER, BUT BAD NEWS, WITH AVENUE BACKLOG OF
17:07:42 PROJECTS IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR ECONOMIC REASONS WE NEED
17:07:44 TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKER.
17:07:46 I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD
17:07:49 WHEN -- WHEN PROJECTS ARE MISNOTICED.
17:07:51 BUT SURE FEELS LIKE A SHAME.
17:07:52 WE ARE ALL HERE.
17:07:54 THE STAFF IS ALL HERE AND WOULD LOVE TO REVIEW
17:07:56 PROJECTS.
17:07:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. CARLSON.
17:08:01 I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.
17:08:04 DEVELOPERS OR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET PERMITS AND SAYS
17:08:08 IT TAKING TOO LONG, IT IS BECAUSE OF THE BACKLOG THAT
17:08:11 JUST HAS BEEN CREATED OF CONTINUING AND MISNOTICES.
17:08:13 THANK YOU FOR THAT.
17:08:15 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
17:08:17 >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU KNOW, I FEEL EXACTLY THE SAME WAY.
17:08:21 AND I KIND OF FEEL LIKE MAYBE WITH DEVELOPMENT
17:08:24 COORDINATION, IF THERE IS A WAY TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT
17:08:29 IF THEY HAVE TO MISNOTICE, THAT -- DO THEY GO TO THE
17:08:31 VERY END OF THE LINE?
17:08:34 >> COUNCIL, FOR THESE TWO PETITIONS, IT WAS NOT A
17:08:35 MISNOTICE.
17:08:37 >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM ASKING STAFF.
17:08:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MICHELINI.
17:08:39 WE ARE DONE.
17:08:42 WE ARE JUST MAKING OUR STATEMENTS.
17:08:44 THAT IS NOT DIRECTED TO YOU.
17:08:46 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL, FOR CONTINUING THOSE
17:08:49 TWO HEARINGS.
17:08:51 >>LYNN HURTAK: ABSOLUTELY.
17:08:54 >> YES, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
17:08:58 WHEN A CLIENT MISSES NOTICE OR REQUESTS CONTINUANCE, WE
17:09:01 TRY TO FIND A DATE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WITHIN THE NEXT
17:09:03 TWO OR THREE HEARINGS.
17:09:05 >>LYNN HURTAK: I FEEL LIKE IF YOU MISNOTICE, YOU
17:09:07 SHOULD HAVE SOME PENALTY FOR THAT.
17:09:10 MAYBE THAT WILL MAKE PEOPLE NOT MISNOTICE, I DON'T
17:09:11 KNOW.
17:09:16 I MEAN -- WHAT IS ANYONE ELSE'S THOUGHT?
17:09:17 >> I AGREE WITH THAT.
17:09:20 >>LYNN HURTAK: LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY WILL GO TO THE
17:09:22 END OF THE LINE AND WAIT A LOT LONGER.
17:09:26 FOR ME THAT WOULD BE MOTIVATION.
17:09:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
17:09:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A POLICY?
17:09:33 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I BELIEVE MISS FEELEY WILL ADDRESS
17:09:36 YOU ON THE 23RD AT A WORKSHOP OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND
17:09:38 PLANNING MATTERS.
17:09:40 I THINK SHE IS AWARE OF THIS ISSUE AND MAY WANT TO
17:09:44 ADDRESS YOU ON WAYS TO TRY TO MANAGE IN CALENDAR.
17:09:47 I MEAN, WE TRY TO MAKE EXTRA MEETINGS AVAILABLE SO WE
17:09:49 CAN MOVE SOME PETITIONS THROUGH.
17:09:51 AND SHE IS AWARE OF THIS.
17:09:54 AND SHE IS AWARE OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED THIS EVENING.
17:09:56 WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK.
17:10:00 AND I THINK SHE MAY WANT TO ADDRESS YOU ON SOME WAYS
17:10:03 THAT -- THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCTIVELY
17:10:06 ADDRESS THIS.
17:10:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS CORRECT.
17:10:13 WE SHOULD FIND A WAY TO GO TO THE END OF THE LINE.
17:10:16 MAYBE SHE WILL ADDRESS THAT ISSUE -- ON THE 23RD, MR.
17:10:17 MASSEY?
17:10:20 >>MORRIS MASSEY: 23RD IS THE SCHEDULED WORKSHOP AND
17:10:24 ALL PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT-RELATED ITEMS.
17:10:25 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: UNDERSTOOD.
17:10:29 AS I MAY SAY, STAFF IS DOING OUR BEST JOB TO ADD THE
17:10:32 CASES TO FILL THE AGENDA PER EVERY NIGHT.
17:10:35 JUST AS TONIGHT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE 11 CASES THAT
17:10:38 WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SET.
17:10:41 AND UNFORTUNATELY WE ONLY SET SIX AND SEVEN AND ASKED
17:10:42 FOR CONTINUANCES.
17:10:44 SOME WERE MISNOTICES.
17:10:46 I AM DOING OUR BEST TO HAVE A FULL AGENDA BECAUSE I
17:10:49 KNOW WE ARE BACKLOGGED AND STAFF IS WORKING DILL GENTLY
17:10:50 ON THAT.
17:10:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
17:10:55 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU MENTIONED 11 AND THAT IS OUR
17:10:58 MAXIMUM, BUT I THINK THERE ARE ONLY EIGHT ON HERE.
17:11:02 WHAT WAS IT -- THE PROBLEM IS -- IS, ONE, WE WANT TO BE
17:11:03 FAIR TO STAFF.
17:11:06 AS WE ALWAYS SAY, WE ARE HERE AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO BE.
17:11:09 AND WE ADDED STATES, BUT WE WANT TO BE FAIR TO STAFF
17:11:12 TOO, WHO TAKE TIME AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES ON EXTRA
17:11:13 DAYS.
17:11:17 BUT ALSO, THERE IS -- A MISPERCEPTION PUSHED TO THE
17:11:19 MEDIA THAT SOMEHOW CITY COUNCIL IS SLOWING DOWN ALL
17:11:20 THESE.
17:11:24 AND WE -- WE HEARD REPORTS FROM STAFF NOW THAT, YES,
17:11:29 THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS NOT US, IT IS THAT IT IS BOGGED
17:11:34 DOWN IN PERMITTING AND OTHER KINDS OF REVIEW PROCESSES.
17:11:40 SO ABBYE AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIX THIS.
17:11:42 A LONG-TERM PROBLEM.
17:11:45 WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN PEOPLE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS --
17:11:47 I GET CALLS EVERY DAY ABOUT THAT PROCESS.
17:11:50 THEY COME TO OUR PROCESS AND THEY SAY I CAN'T GET ON
17:11:52 THE SCHEDULE FOR THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AND THEY ARE
17:11:54 ALREADY UPSET BEFORE THEY FIND OUT THAT.
17:11:56 AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE
17:11:58 ISSUES SOONER.
17:12:01 IF THERE ARE SLOTS AVAILABLE, IN THIS CASE THREE SLOTS
17:12:06 AVAILABLE THAT WE DIDN'T FILL AT ALL, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO
17:12:10 CONTINUE AND NOW -- SIX SLOTS TO PUSH PROJECTS FORWARD.
17:12:14 >>MORRIS MASSEY: MISS FEELEY WILL ADDRESS THIS.
17:12:17 WE HAVE A 30-DAY NOTICE, I'M.
17:12:20 TO SCHEDULE THINGS FAIRLY FAR IN ADVANCE.
17:12:21 I THINK ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I THINK STAFF IS DEALING
17:12:25 WITH -- NOT REALLY STAFF -- A PROBLEM WITH STAFF, BUT A
17:12:29 LOT OF THE APPLICATIONS COME IN THAT ARE NOT REALLY
17:12:29 COMPLETE.
17:12:32 AND SO -- WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY GET TENTATIVELY
17:12:36 SCHEDULED, BUT THEN THERE ARE MAJOR ISSUES WITH THE
17:12:38 APPLICATION AND THEY ARE NOT READY TO BE PRESENTED AND
17:12:39 THEY GET DELAYED.
17:12:43 THAT PRESENTS PROBLEMS IN THE CALENDAR OF VARIOUS
17:12:44 ITEMS.
17:12:46 >>BILL CARLSON: THE PROBLEM -- IF I CAN FOLLOW THIS.
17:12:48 ANOTHER ISSUE WITH ANOTHER DAY.
17:12:51 MISS FEELEY ADMITTED THAT THEY NEED TO BE MORE FIRM IN
17:12:54 THE BEGINNING AND TELL PEOPLE THEY DON'T HAVE
17:12:55 EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
17:12:59 BECAUSE THE MOST COMMON COMMENT I GET AND CRITICISM
17:13:02 THAT PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THE PROCESS IS ARBITRARY.
17:13:06 ONE EXAMPLE FROM SEVERAL YEARS AGO A PERSON HAS WHAT HE
17:13:08 CALLS A $4,000 TOILET.
17:13:11 THE INSPECTOR SAY NEED A TOILET ON THE LEFT.
17:13:12 A MONTH LATER ON THE RIGHT.
17:13:15 AND THE NEXT PERSON SAID YOU NEED IT ON THE LEFT.
17:13:18 A REAL EXAMPLE AND FINALLY HE GOT A NEW TOILET.
17:13:22 WHY IS MY BIG PROJECT BEING HELD UP BY A TOILET.
17:13:25 I GOT ANOTHER CALL ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY THAT PEOPLE
17:13:28 FEEL THAT EVERY TIME SOMEBODY COMES IN, THEY ARE TOLD
17:13:30 TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND THE PROCESS IS NOT
17:13:31 CONSISTENT.
17:13:33 THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN BEING TOLD HERE YOU HAVE TO FILL
17:13:38 ALL OF THESE -- ALL THESE THINGS UP.
17:13:40 DIFFERENT WHEN THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE GIVING THEM
17:13:40 DIFFERENT ADVICE.
17:13:43 WE NEED TO FIX THAT PROCESS BUT WE NEED TO FIX THIS
17:13:44 SCHEDULE.
17:13:47 ANY HELP -- I KNOW YOU ARE WORKING HARD BUT ANY HELP
17:13:49 YOU CAN GIVE TO MOVE THESE FASTER.
17:13:52 OUR INTENT IS TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO MOVE
17:13:53 THEM AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
17:13:57 WE HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE AND WE HAVE GOT ECONOMIC
17:14:00 CLIFFS ON THE HORIZON THAT WE MAY BE HITTING AND WE
17:14:02 WANT TO MOVE THESE AS FAST AS WE CAN.
17:14:03 THANK YOU.
17:14:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. HUSSEIN, I DIDN'T MEAN TO STIR UP A
17:14:08 HORNET'S NEST.
17:14:12 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
17:14:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DOES THAT INCLUDE YOUR ADJUSTMENT OF
17:14:15 THE AGENDA?
17:14:17 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: YES, IT DOES.
17:14:18 THANK YOU.
17:14:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO OPEN THE 5:01 PUBLIC HEARING.
17:14:23 >> MOTION.
17:14:23 >> SECOND.
17:14:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AT THIS TIME, ANYONE WHO IS GOING TO
17:14:32 BE GIVING ANY TESTIMONY THIS EVENING, IF YOU COULD
17:14:34 PLEASE RISE AND BE SWORN IN.
17:14:41 ANYONE GIVING ANY TESTIMONY.
17:14:46 I KNOW, BUT I WANT TO GET IT DONE.
17:14:47 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:15:00 OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1, FILE NUMBER TA, CPA
17:15:03 21-27.
17:15:08 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ.
17:15:11 WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC
17:15:16 HEARING FOR TA-CPA 21-27 WHICH IS A PUBLICLY INITIATED
17:15:20 COMP PLAN AMENDMENT THAT THE CITY IS COMPLIED TO MAKE
17:15:23 IN ORDER TO APPLY TO STATE STATUTE.
17:15:26 NOT A PUBLIC HEARING ON ANY ASPECT OF ANY WATER
17:15:29 DEPARTMENT PROJECT THAT IS NOT ALREADY ON THE CIP.
17:15:32 I KNOW COUNCIL IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS HAVE RECEIVED
17:15:34 A NUMBER OF E-MAILS ABOUT THIS ITEM, INCLUDING
17:15:38 QUESTIONING WHY THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS TAKING PLACE IN
17:15:39 THE EVENING.
17:15:41 IT IS TAKING PLACE IN THE EVENING BECAUSE ALL PUBLIC
17:15:49 HEARINGS FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ARE PLACED ON EVENING
17:15:52 AGENDA AND BECAUSE IT IS A COMPREHEND PLAN ITEM, THAT
17:15:55 IS WHY IT IS ON YOUR AGENDA.
17:15:59 COUNCIL WILL CONTINUED FROM MAY 26, 2022 FOR COUNCIL'S
17:16:03 REQUEST SO COUNCIL COULD BE FURTHER BRIEFED AND I AND
17:16:05 MCCLAIN EVANS WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
17:16:09 OR, MR. WEBBER WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENTS AND PLANNING
17:16:13 COMMISSION MELISSA DIXON, SHAWN COLLEGE AND DAVID HEY,
17:16:16 OVER THE PAST WEEK AND A HALF HAD BRIEFS WITH ALL THE
17:16:18 COUNCILMEMBERS BUT MR. CARLSON.
17:16:21 WE REGRET WE WEREN'T ABLE TO MEET WITH YOU SINCE YOU
17:16:22 HAVE BEEN OUT OF TOWN.
17:16:24 WE HAVE ANSWERED ALL OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS'
17:16:28 QUESTIONS, BUT WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING IF YOU HAVE ANY
17:16:29 FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AMENDMENT.
17:16:34 I WANT TO TELL A COUPLE OF THINGS.
17:16:38 DOES NOT HAVE ANY FUNDING OPERATION FOR ANY ASPECT OF
17:16:40 WATER DEPARTMENT INCLUDING THE PURE PROJECT.
17:16:43 I KNOW THAT IS KIND OF WHAT GENERATED THE COMMENTS AND
17:16:44 CONCERN AT THE LAST MEETING.
17:16:48 AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AN AGENDA ITEM STAFF REPORT
17:16:51 ON COUNCIL'S AGENDA AFTER YOUR SUMMER BREAK THAT WILL
17:16:55 SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE PURE -- THE PURE PROJECT.
17:16:58 SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MISS DICKENS FOR
17:17:01 HER BRIEF PRESENTATION.
17:17:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
17:17:05 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE SHOULD CANCEL THIS, AND
17:17:06 DEFER IT BECAUSE OF MISNOTICE.
17:17:10 AS I SAID TWO WEEKS AGO, COUNCIL'S RULES THAT WE PASSED
17:17:16 A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO REQUIRE THAT IT SAY "PURE"IN THE
17:17:18 SUMMARY OF THE ITEM.
17:17:22 THE PUBLIC IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT NOT BEING NOTICED ON
17:17:24 THIS.
17:17:28 AND YOU KNOW, I WAS OUT OF TOWN, I DIDN'T -- I DIDN'T
17:17:29 EVEN CALL ANYBODY.
17:17:32 THE PUBLIC FOUND OUT ABOUT IT ORGANICALLY AND STARTED
17:17:33 E-MAILING AND CALLING.
17:17:35 AND THEY ARE VERY UPSET.
17:17:38 PEOPLE -- THE WATER DEPARTMENT THOUGHT WERE ALLIES ARE
17:17:40 NOW COMPLETELY AGAINST IT BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THE
17:17:43 WATER DEPARTMENT IS, AGAIN, NOT BEING TRANSPARENT AND
17:17:47 AGAIN NOT BEING ACCOUNTABLE AS THE MAYOR SAID THE CITY
17:17:50 SHOULD BE, BUT CITY COUNCIL REQUESTED -- REQUIRED THAT
17:17:53 THE SUMMARY SAY "PURE" IN IT.
17:17:57 I DON'T SEE THE WORD "PURE" ANYWHERE IN HERE.
17:18:01 NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR "PURE" BUT HAS A CLAUSE FOR
17:18:01 "PURE."
17:18:06 THING RIDICULOUS PROJECT SHOULD BE CANCELLED
17:18:09 PERMANENTLY, BUT IT IS NOT NOTICED -- AND PUBLIC ARE
17:18:14 UPSET OVER LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AND I THINK WE SHOULD
17:18:15 RESCHEDULE IT.
17:18:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT A MOTION -- COUNCILMAN
17:18:18 MIRANDA.
17:18:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CAN I ASK THE DEPARTMENT, HAVE WE
17:18:25 MET ALL OF THE POLICY OF THE LAW IN NOTICING THIS ITEM?
17:18:28 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WE MET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS
17:18:32 FOR POSTING AS A AMENDMENT.
17:18:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SOMETHING UNIQUE OR HISTORICAL
17:18:35 VALUE THAT IS HANDLED AT NIGHT.
17:18:38 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: ALL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PUBLIC
17:18:41 HEARINGS AND FIRST READING FOR THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS
17:18:47 ARE TAKING PLACE IN EVENING MEETINGS.
17:18:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
17:18:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHY IS MR. CARLSON SAYING WHAT HE IS
17:18:51 SAYING.
17:18:52 IS HE INCORRECT ABOUT SOMETHING?
17:18:56 ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING HERE VERSUS WHAT MR. MIRANDA
17:18:58 IS ASKING OF LEGAL ASPECT.
17:19:01 WHAT IS MR. CARLSON SAYING THAT WE SHOULD BE MORE
17:19:04 KNOWLEDGEABLE OF OR WE ARE MISSING SOMETHING?
17:19:06 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WELL, I BELIEVE -- AND I KNOW I
17:19:09 HAVE REVIEWED THE E-MAIL THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED AND A
17:19:10 LOT OF THEM WAS ABOUT PURE SPECIFICALLY.
17:19:14 AGAIN, THIS IS -- THIS ITEM IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
17:19:19 AMENDMENT THAT REFERENCES "PURE" IN ONE ATTACHMENT, ONE
17:19:22 LINE IN ONE ATTACHMENT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
17:19:22 AMENDMENT.
17:19:27 IT RELATES TO THE ADOPTION OF THE TEN-YEAR WATER
17:19:30 FACILITIES WORK PLAN THAT REFERENCES PURE ONLY TO THE
17:19:33 EXTENT THAT IT IS ALREADY ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL AND
17:19:34 THE CIP.
17:19:37 AGAIN, THIS IS A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT THAT IS MUCH
17:19:42 BROADER THAN ANY PARTICULAR WATER DEPARTMENT PROJECT.
17:19:45 AND IT IS DONE BECAUSE WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO IT BY
17:19:46 STATE LAW.
17:19:50 THE REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY -- SORRY, THE S.W.F.W.M.D.
17:19:54 ADOPTED THEIR REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY PLAN 18 MONTHS AGO.
17:19:59 AND WE -- WELL, ON NOVEMBER OF 2020, WE HAVE 18 MONTHS
17:20:03 AFTER THAT TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO OUR COMP PLAN AND
17:20:07 MAKE THE NECESSARY CHANGES TO EFFECTUATE THAT IN OUR
17:20:07 CAMP PLAN.
17:20:12 THAT PUTS THE DEADLINE MID-MAY AND WE ARE HERE ALMOST
17:20:13 IN MID-JUNE.
17:20:18 AND A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN TO CONTINUING TO DELAY.
17:20:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME ASK ANOTHER QUESTION, IF I
17:20:22 MAY.
17:20:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL GET BACK TO YOU IN ONE SECOND.
17:20:26 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YES.
17:20:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ISN'T IT A FACT THAT EVER SO OFTEN
17:20:32 WITHIN A PERIOD OF TIME THESE THINGS ARE ASKED BY
17:20:33 S.W.F.W.M.D.
17:20:36 ISN'T THIS REGARDING THREE ENTITIES WHICH IS TAMPA --
17:20:39 CITY OF TAMPA, SOUTHWEST WATER MANAGEMENT AND TAMPA BAY
17:20:44 WATER, A COOPERATIVE OF THREE, NOT ONE.
17:20:49 >> MR. MIRANDA, YES, JEAN DUNCAN, ADMINISTRATOR OF
17:20:51 MOBILITY.
17:20:55 YOU ARE CORRECT, IN CHECKING ALL THE BOXES IN TERMS OF
17:20:58 THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT APPROACH, THE STANDARD PROCESS
17:21:00 WE HAVE FOR SUBMITTING THIS TEN-YEAR PLAN.
17:21:03 WE HAVE DONE ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED.
17:21:07 I DO REGRET AND APOLOGIZE THAT THE COUNCIL'S SPECIFIC
17:21:11 REQUEST FOR BEING NOTIFIED OF "PURE"WAS NOT DONE AS IT
17:21:12 SHOULD HAVE.
17:21:16 ; HOWEVER, I DO HAVE A COMPROMISE THAT I THINK WILL
17:21:22 SATISFY THE TIME-SENSITIVE NEED TO SUBMIT THIS TO THE
17:21:25 CEO AS WE ARE REQUIRED AND ALLAY THE CONCERN ABOUT THE
17:21:26 PURE PROJECT.
17:21:30 AND THIS COMPROMISE OR SUGGESTION THAT COUNCIL COULD
17:21:34 ENTERTAIN, IF IT IS YOUR PLEASURE OR NOT TO DO, IS WE
17:21:38 REMOVED THE PURE PROJECT FROM THE CIP LIST IN OUR
17:21:39 DOCUMENT.
17:21:43 WE ASKED THAT BE REMOVAL BE DONE BETWEEN NOW AND SECOND
17:21:44 READING.
17:21:47 SO WE STAY ON SCHEDULE WITH OUR SUBMITTAL, AND WHEN WE
17:21:50 GET TO A POINT WHEN THERE IS MORE OF A CONSENSUS OF
17:21:53 MOVING FORWARD OR NOT WITH PURE, WE GO BACK AND DO
17:21:56 ANOTHER PLAN AMENDMENT TO ADD THE PROJECT BACK TO THE
17:22:00 PLAN, IF THAT IS THE OUTCOME OF OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
17:22:03 AND OUR ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS.
17:22:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
17:22:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:22:09 JUST TO CONTINUE WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.
17:22:12 IN ORDER TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY, WHAT I AM GOING TO DO
17:22:14 WHEN IT GETS TO THE ACTUAL CONTEXT.
17:22:18 I WILL READ ALL THE 32 DOCUMENTS OF OBJECTIVES WHAT IT
17:22:21 MEANS SO THERE IS NO MISUNDERSTANDING HERE, WITH THE
17:22:25 MEDIA, AND THE PEOPLE AND ANY PART OF THE CITY.
17:22:28 THIS IS NOT NEW, THERE IS DONE EVERY TEN YEARS, IF I
17:22:29 RECALL.
17:22:30 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
17:22:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
17:22:34 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF OPENING THE
17:22:36 DISCUSSION.
17:22:43 I -- AS MISS DUNCAN CONFIRMED, WE -- WE, CITY COUNCIL,
17:22:48 AGREED MONTHS AGO IN OUR REQUEST TO THE -- TO THE STAFF
17:22:53 THAT -- THAT ANY PROJECT THAT HAS PURE IN IT SHOULD
17:22:56 HAVE THE WORD PURE IN THE SUMMARY SO WE AND THE PUBLIC
17:22:59 CLEARLY KNOW THAT IT IS THERE AND PART OF A
17:23:01 TRANSPARENCY THING.
17:23:02 WE DID PASS THE RULE.
17:23:04 IT IS NOT ABOUT STATE LAW AND THE NOTICE.
17:23:06 IT IS ABOUT CITY COUNCIL'S RULES.
17:23:09 BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT IN THE PUBLIC AND
17:23:12 WANT THE DEPARTMENT TO BE TRANSPARENT IN THE PUBLIC.
17:23:14 AND SOME FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AND
17:23:16 STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT.
17:23:19 BUT JUST ON THAT ALONE, I THINK WE -- WITHOUT THE
17:23:22 PROPOSAL YOU MADE THAT WE SHOULD DELAYER IT.
17:23:25 I BROUGHT IT UP A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
17:23:27 WE DELAYED IT LAST TIME.
17:23:28 SURPRISED IT WASN'T CHANGED.
17:23:31 YOU HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH SIERRA CLUB AND FRIENDS OF
17:23:34 THE RIVER AND THEY SAY THAT NOBODY REACHED OUT TO THEM
17:23:37 ABOUT THIS AND GAVE THEM A HEADS-UP ON THIS.
17:23:39 IT MAY NOT BE A STATE REQUIREMENT, BUT IF YOU WERE
17:23:42 TRYING TO BRING ALONG PARTNERS, THEY HAVE SCIENTISTS
17:23:46 AND ENGINEERS AND EVERYONE WHO IS LOOKING AT IT AND
17:23:48 THEY HAVE GREAT CONCERN AND REPRESENTING MAJOR GREAT
17:23:52 CONSTITUENTS IN THE PUBLIC AND CONCERNS ME THAT NOBODY
17:23:53 PROACTIVELY REACHED OUT TO THEM.
17:23:56 ANOTHER THING FROM A STATE LAW PERSPECTIVE, I TALKED TO
17:23:59 PEOPLE AT THE STATE AND WE DON'T NEED THIS PROJECT AT
17:23:59 ALL.
17:24:01 WE CAN EXAMINE FOR AN EXCEPTION.
17:24:06 I THINK IF THE CITY DID, I WOULD NOT THINK THE
17:24:09 EXCEPTION WOULD BE BIASED AND THERE IS NO DEADLINE.
17:24:13 IF WE APPLIED FOR AN EXCEPTION BASED ON WHAT WE ARE
17:24:16 DOING ALREADY, WORK AT OUR OWN PLACE WHEN WE WORK OUT
17:24:17 OUR PROJECT.
17:24:20 EVENTUALLY WE WILL NEED TO DO THIS BUT NOR TO THE A
17:24:22 LONG TIME AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE ROBUST
17:24:23 DEBATES.
17:24:26 TO SAVE TIME, I AM HAPPY NOW WITH IF HE WANT TO
17:24:30 SHORTCUTS IT TO MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THIS AS -- WITH
17:24:36 -- WITH -- MINUS ANY REFERENCE TO PURE AND TAKING OUT
17:24:39 THE PURE BUDGET IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE
17:24:40 PRESENTATION YOU CAN.
17:24:43 WITH IS THAT COMPROMISE.
17:24:44 >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
17:24:47 THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
17:24:51 >> COUNCIL, I DIDN'T MEAN TO STEAL MELISSA'S THUNDER.
17:24:54 SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED AMONGST AGENCIES AND ONE OR TWO
17:24:57 OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS WE WERE ABLE TO REACH IN A SHORT
17:24:58 PERIOD OF TIME.
17:25:01 AGAIN, I PERSONALLY APOLOGIZE FOR THIS OVERSIGHT.
17:25:04 WE ARE LEARNING SOME HARD LESSONS VERY QUICKLY ABOUT
17:25:07 THE SENSITIVITY AND OUR NEED TO REALLY IMPROVE ON OUR
17:25:08 TRANSPARENCY.
17:25:12 IT WAS JUST -- INNOCENT ERROR AND WASN'T ANY PLANNED
17:25:15 EFFORT TO CONCEAL ANYTHING.
17:25:19 BUT, AGAIN, THERE IS A METHOD FOR MOVING FORWARD WHAT
17:25:23 WE NEED TO GET DONE MOST PEOPLE AGREE SHOULD GET DONE
17:25:26 IS THE MAJORITY OF THE CIP AND WE ARE WILLING TO TABLE
17:25:29 THIS, MELISSA, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN
17:25:32 GRACIOUS TO AGREE THIS IS A REASONABLE THING TO DO.
17:25:37 AND SO IF IT IS YOUR PLEASURE TO HAVE THIS REMOVED, YOU
17:25:40 CAN COMMENT, MELISSA, BUT WE DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH
17:25:43 THAT IN TERMS OF GETTING OUR SUBMITTALS TURNED IN AND
17:25:46 MOVING FORWARD TO FURTHER DEVELOP THE PURE PROJECT,
17:25:50 WHATEVER THE OUTCOME WE CAN ENTERTAIN YOUR SUGGESTION
17:25:54 AS WELL, MR. CARLSON, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, AS A SEPARATE
17:25:57 TOPIC IF THAT IS OKAY JUST TO KIND OF SPLIT THIS PART
17:26:02 AWAY AND MOVE FORWARD ON THIS PIECE OF A TIME-SENSITIVE
17:26:04 SUBMITTAL WE NEED TO MAKE.
17:26:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CAN YOU
17:26:10 STATE YOUR MOTION SO THE CLERK HAS IT PROPERLY.
17:26:14 >>BILL CARLSON: SURE, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE
17:26:17 THIS WITH EXCEPTION OF TAKING OUT ALL REFERENCES TO THE
17:26:20 PURE PROJECT AND INCLUDING TAKING OUT THE BUDGET FOR
17:26:22 PURE.
17:26:28 DO I NEED TO READ IT?
17:26:30 OKAY.
17:26:35 FILE NUMBER -- YOU WANT ME TO READ IT, MR. CHAIR.
17:26:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE SECOND.
17:26:41 WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM STAFF FIRST.
17:26:43 GO RIGHT AHEAD.
17:26:46 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS, MELISSA DICKENS, PLANNING
17:26:46 COMMISSION STAFF.
17:26:51 FIRST, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE LACK OF THE PURE
17:26:53 ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
17:26:57 THIS WAS A PLANNING COMMISSION ITEM THAT THE PLANNING
17:26:58 COMMISSION PREPARED.
17:27:02 WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THE REQUIREMENT AHEAD OF TIME.
17:27:04 AND I DO APOLOGIZE.
17:27:06 THAT WAS -- THAT CAME FROM US.
17:27:10 AND IN THE FUTURE, WE WILL CERTAINLY MAKE SURE THAT PAY
17:27:10 MORE ATTENTION.
17:27:13 I WANTED EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THIS AGENDA ITEM CAME
17:27:13 FROM US.
17:27:15 NOT FROM CITY STAFF.
17:27:18 I WANTED TO SET THE RECORD CLEAR.
17:27:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
17:27:25 >> SECONDLY, IT -- THE STATE STATUTE REQUIRES THAT THIS
17:27:32 BE UPDATED WITHIN 18 MONTHS OF SUPPLY PLAN ADOPTION.
17:27:34 AS OTHER MENTIONED WE ARE A BIT LATE TO GET THIS
17:27:35 THROUGH.
17:27:38 WE WOULD NOT WANT TO SET UP A SITUATION WHERE, YOU
17:27:41 KNOW, THERE COULD BE SOME SORT OF ENFORCEMENT ACTION OR
17:27:44 OTHER MEASURE TAKEN BY CEO.
17:27:47 SO, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL HAS THE OPTION TO EITHER ADOPT
17:27:49 THIS AMENDMENT.
17:27:52 WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THE AMENDMENT OR
17:27:56 ADOPT IT WITH MODIFICATION IF COUNCIL SEES FIT.
17:27:58 AND I WANTED TO SHARE THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR THE
17:27:59 RECORD.
17:28:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
17:28:03 ANY OTHER STAFF GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON THIS?
17:28:05 OR JUST YOU?
17:28:10 >> FROM PLANNING COMMISSION, UNLESS I -- DAVID HEY --
17:28:13 IT WILL PROBABLY BE JUST ME AND CITY STAFF AS WELL.
17:28:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DOES CITY STAFF WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS?
17:28:21 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHES TO COMMENT TO THIS?
17:28:29 NOW WE REALIZE THAT PURE HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF OF THIS.
17:28:34 SO DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK TO FILE NUMBER TA/CPA
17:28:44 21-27 SANS PURE.
17:28:48 GOING ONCE.
17:28:50 I KNOW.
17:28:56 I TRIED GET HER --
17:28:58 >> I HAVE A COMMENT PREPARED.
17:28:59 WHERE DO I GO?
17:29:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: RIGHT THERE.
17:29:04 >> I WILL TRY TO KEEP --
17:29:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN.
17:29:06 NOT TALKING ABOUT PURE.
17:29:06 >> OKAY.
17:29:12 JUST WANT -- I WANT TO SUPPORT THEN -- ANTHONY STEVENS
17:29:17 WITH THE SIERRA CLUB AND I WANT TO SUPPORT TAKING PURE
17:29:17 OFF.
17:29:20 AND MY COMMENTS WERE ADDRESSED -- TO TAKE IT OFF FROM
17:29:23 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WE WERE NOT MADE AWARE IT
17:29:26 WAS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PERSONALLY AFTER
17:29:29 MEETING WITH THE CITY STAFF ON A REGULAR BASIS, I WAS
17:29:34 PERSONALLY -- I -- I FELT BETRAYED BECAUSE THEY HAD NOT
17:29:36 -- THEY TRIED TO -- I FELT LIKE THEY WERE TRYING TO
17:29:38 SLIP IT IN.
17:29:41 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GO BACK TO OUR AGREEMENT FROM
17:29:44 FEBRUARY THAT WE -- THAT WE GET THE FUNDING AND THEN
17:29:49 AFTER PUBLIC OUTREACH AND GETTING PUBLIC INPUT AND
17:29:54 DOING MORE FURTHER RESEARCH, THAT WE THEN CONSIDER PURE
17:29:58 IN A MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY.
17:29:59 THANK YOU FOR PUSHING THAT OFF.
17:30:01 AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
17:30:04 AND I AM GOING TO JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
17:30:13 THANK YOU.
17:30:14 >> GOOD EVENING.
17:30:18 IF IT PLEASES THE COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO WHY
17:30:22 IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO REMOVE PURE AT THIS TIME.
17:30:24 WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE TO YOU?
17:30:27 WOULD THAT BE RELEVANT TO TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION?
17:30:30 >> FOR YOU, MR. COMPTON, YES.
17:30:31 >> I AM PHIL COMPTON.
17:30:34 I'M WITH FRIENDS OF THE RIVER WHICH HAVE OVER 100
17:30:35 FOLLOWERS HERE.
17:30:38 ONE OF THE HANDFUL OF CITIZENS THAT MET MONTHLY WITH
17:30:41 CITY STAFF FOR THEIR PLANS FOR PURE.
17:30:45 BUT NONE OF US AS MISS STEVENS JUST SAID -- STATED KNEW
17:30:47 ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS WITH THE COMP
17:30:50 PLAN AND THE CIP UNTIL THE AGENDA CAME OUT.
17:30:54 IS PURE BEING PART OF THE PLANS NOT IMPORTANT?
17:30:59 OR ARE WE GOING THROUGH A PROCESS OF DEATH BY THOUSAND
17:31:01 CUTS UNTIL IT IS TOO LATE.
17:31:03 AT THIS POINT WITH WHAT WE KNOW -- WE KNOW PRETTY MUCH
17:31:06 ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY UNFORTUNATELY, LOOKS LIKE A
17:31:09 VERY RISKY, EXPENSIVE AND UNNECESSARY PROJECT.
17:31:11 SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WE SUPPORTED COUNCIL'S ALLOCATION
17:31:14 FOR CONTINUATION OF WORK ON THE PROJECT WITH THE
17:31:16 STIPULATION THAT COUNCIL MADE THAT STAFF CONSIDER ALL
17:31:19 OPTIONS AND SOMEONE DIDN'T BOTHER TO AMEN THE LANGUAGE
17:31:24 FROM THIS COMP PLAN WHETHER THAN WHAT STAFF WANTED TO
17:31:27 DO TO USE IT FOR MINIMAL FLOW AND AUGMENT DRINKING
17:31:29 WATER SUPPLY.
17:31:32 THEY HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS THAT THIS WILL NEVER MEET
17:31:37 THE BASIC CRITERIA THAT THE WATER PRODUCED BE PROVEN TO
17:31:40 BE SAFE AND AFFORDABLE FOR THE PEOPLE AND FOR FISH AND
17:31:42 WILDLIFE IN THE RIVER.
17:31:46 UNTIL STANDARDS HAVE ESTABLISHED FOR THE MULTITUDE THE
17:31:49 CONTAMINANTS FOUND IN THIS WASTEWATER AND THE CITY CAN
17:31:51 DEMONSTRATE THAT THE TREATMENT PROCESS THAT IT CHOOSES
17:31:58 WILL REDUCE ALL SUCH CONTAMINANTS AS BEING SAFE, THE
17:32:01 CITY CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
17:32:03 THIS PROJECT AND INSTEAD IMMEDIATELY DELETE AS YOU ARE
17:32:09 DOING ALL REFERENCE TO IT FROM THE COMP PLAN AND CIP
17:32:13 UNTIL SUFFICIENT TIME PROOF OF SAFETY AND AFFORDABILITY
17:32:15 DEMONSTRATED TO YOU AND THE PUBLIC.
17:32:18 THIS PROVES BE TOO PROBLEM WITH THE STATE'S TIMELINE OF
17:32:21 COMPLIANCE, THE CITY SHOULD COORDINATE WITH ALL OTHER
17:32:23 LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THE STATE IN THE SAME BOAT AND
17:32:26 APPEAL WITH THE STATE TO GRANT AN EXTENSION OR AMEND
17:32:27 THE LAW.
17:32:29 THE CITY IS REALLY IN A PICKLE.
17:32:30 WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
17:32:34 CANNOT PROVE THAT THEY ARE TREAT THE WATER THAT IT IS
17:32:36 SAFE AND AFFORDABLE.
17:32:38 UNTIL THE STANDARDS ARE ESTABLISHED AND SOMETHING THAT
17:32:40 WE HAVE TO BE IN CONTROL OF.
17:32:43 WE HAVE TO PUT A HOLD ON THE PROJECT UNTIL SUCH TIME
17:32:47 THAT WE ARE CERTAIN THAT WE NEED IT, WE CAN PAY FOR IT
17:32:50 AND DO NO HARM FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DRINK THE RIVER'S
17:32:53 WATER AND TO THE FISH AND WILDLIFE THAT LIVE IN OUR
17:32:54 RIVER.
17:32:56 THANK YOU FOR THE ACTION TONIGHT.
17:33:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME, BLAH MR. COMPTON.
17:33:01 >> YES, SIR.
17:33:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
17:33:06 >>BILL CARLSON: USUALLY ON THESE THINGS WE ASK OF YOUR
17:33:08 EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE.
17:33:15 QUICKLY TELL US YOUR EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE.
17:33:19 SIERRA CLUB, DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO SCIENTISTS LOCAL
17:33:20 AND NATIONAL LEVEL.
17:33:23 >> NATIONAL AND STATE LEVEL, YES.
17:33:27 WE ESTABLISHED A POLICY RELATED TO THESE SORTS OF ISSUE
17:33:29 BECAUSE TAMPA IS NOT ALONE IN DEALING WITH THIS SORT OF
17:33:30 THING.
17:33:33 MYSELF PERSONALLY, I AM ONE OF THE FOUNDER OF THE
17:33:36 FRIENDS OF RIVER CITIZENS GROUP WORKING WITH THE CITY,
17:33:38 SOMETIMES AGAINST THE CITY, TO ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO
17:33:41 CONSIDER THE NEEDS OF THIS RIVER AND TO RESTORE THE
17:33:45 RIVER TO THE HEALTH AND BEAUTY THAT HAS ATTRACTED MANY
17:33:46 PEOPLE.
17:33:49 WE HAD SOME SUCCESS IN THAT AND THAT THE RIVER IS NOW
17:33:51 HEALTHIER THAN IT USED TO BE.
17:33:55 STUDY BACK 15 YEARS AGO SHOWED THAT OUR INITIAL CONCERN
17:33:58 THAT SUL VERY SPRINGS WATER ALONE WAS NOT SUFFICIENT TO
17:34:03 RESTORE THE NURSERY WHERE LIFE OF TAMPA BAY BEGINS IN
17:34:05 LOWER RIVER BELOW THE DAM.
17:34:07 THAT OUR CONCERN WAS CORRECT.
17:34:12 AND THAT HAS PROVEN TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL TO A CERTAIN
17:34:13 DEGREE.
17:34:16 WE THINK IT CAN GO FORWARD AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON
17:34:18 THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
17:34:21 >>BILL CARLSON: CARLSON YOU HAVE ACCESS TO EXPERTS WHO
17:34:23 ARE ATTENDING CONFERENCES.
17:34:27 I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS ON YOUR MOUTH.
17:34:30 YOU HAVE ACCESS TO PEOPLE ARE STUDYING THIS ON A
17:34:33 NATIONAL AGENDA.
17:34:34 >> YES.
17:34:35 THANK YOU, MR. CARLSON.
17:34:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. COMPTON, THANK YOU, THE GENIE IS
17:34:39 OUT OF THE BOX.
17:34:41 I AM HOPING THAT NO ONE ELSE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT
17:34:43 PURE.
17:34:44 TALKING ABOUT THIS AGENDA ITEM.
17:34:45 MR. COMPTON, PLEASE.
17:34:48 I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.
17:34:49 [LAUGHTER]
17:34:50 >> TRYING TO MOVE THINGS ALONG.
17:34:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A AFOREMENTIONED STANDARD.
17:34:56 WHO SETS THE STANDARDS.
17:34:58 >> THAT WILL BE SET BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
17:35:00 IT CAN BE SET BY THE TATE.
17:35:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE NEED TO GET THEM OFF THEIR TOOKUS.
17:35:05 WE HAVE GUIDELINES.
17:35:09 >> ITS EPA IS STARTING TO DO THE WORK BUT IT IS LONG
17:35:11 OVERDUE.
17:35:13 THANK YOU, MR. COMPTON.
17:35:19 SOMETHING MISS BENNETT TO SAY ABOUT TA-CPA 23-27?
17:35:21 >> MAY I SPEAK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY ABOUT IT.
17:35:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS IS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANYTHING ELSE
17:35:27 BUT THE AGENDA ITEMS.
17:35:29 >> ALL RIGHT, I JUST WISH I WOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT
17:35:29 SOONER.
17:35:34 I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT YESTERDAY BY ACCIDENT.
17:35:38 MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
17:35:42 I KNOW WHEN AN AGREEMENT WAS REACHED WITH A LOT OF
17:35:45 STAKEHOLDERS OF SUPPORTING GOING AHEAD WITH RESEARCH, A
17:35:48 BIG, BIG PART OF THAT WAS PUBLIC OUTREACH.
17:35:53 AND A TINY LITTLE BLURRY LINE ITEM ON THE BOTTOM OF THE
17:36:00 LAST PAGE, THE LAST LINE IS NOT GOOD PUBLIC OUTREACH.
17:36:02 IF WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS UNTIL YESTERDAY.
17:36:05 NO ONE WAS HERE TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN IT CAME UP.
17:36:09 NOT A SINGLE PERSON FROM THE PUBLIC SPOKE ON IT BECAUSE
17:36:11 NOBODY KNEW ABOUT IT.
17:36:14 AT THAT TIME, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT PURE SHOULD BE IN
17:36:18 BIG FAT LETTERS ON ANYTHING THAT ADDRESSES CURE.
17:36:22 IT WASN'T CORRECTED FROM MAY 26 TO JUNE 9.
17:36:31 THANK YOU.
17:36:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I INDUSTRIAL TO GO TO ANYBODY ONLINE.
17:36:35 IS THERE ANYBODY ON LINE?
17:36:39 MISS STROHMEYER.
17:36:46 MISS STROHMEYER.
17:36:48 MISS POYNOR.
17:36:52 MISS STEPHANIE POYNOR, ARE YOU THERE?
17:36:53 >> YES, SIR.
17:36:53 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
17:36:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE SPEAKING -- WE ARE SPEAKING TO
17:37:01 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1, NOT ABOUT PURE.
17:37:02 >> BEAUTIFUL.
17:37:04 GOOD EVENING.
17:37:07 FOLK, I DIDN'T WRITE ANYTHING BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE
17:37:10 WHAT EVERYBODY HAD TO SAY FIRST, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO
17:37:16 BACK TO MISS DICKENS, HER -- HER AGENDA POWERPOINT FROM
17:37:17 LAST TIME.
17:37:20 I APOLOGIZE, I AM IN D.C.
17:37:23 I HAVE BEEN IN A WINNEBAGO FOR 26 HOURS.
17:37:26 BOTTOM LINE IS, I --
17:37:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM SORRY, MISS POYNOR, WHERE ARE YOU
17:37:31 AT, I CAN'T SEE YOU.
17:37:36 >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEE ME BECAUSE NOT QJ.
17:37:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ARE CORRECT.
17:37:44 >> IN THE POWERPOINT SAID THIS IS PUBLICLY INITIATIVE.
17:37:47 AND ALSO SAID THAT THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF AGENCY
17:37:51 COMMENT, BUT IT DIDN'T SHOW WHERE WE HAD SPECIFIC
17:37:53 PUBLIC COMMENT.
17:37:55 NOW I HAVE LOOKED AT THINGS FOR THE COMP PLAN.
17:37:58 WE HAVE HOSTED FOLKS FOR THE COMP PLAN.
17:38:01 BUT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT WATER IN PARTICULAR.
17:38:04 AND WE DIDN'T HAVE BIG OL' DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT, SO I
17:38:06 AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PART
17:38:08 OF THAT COMES IN.
17:38:11 I THINK THAT IS A BIG MISSING ELEMENT TO WHAT IS BEING
17:38:14 PRESENTED BECAUSE WE HAVE AGENCY COMMENTS BUT NOT
17:38:15 PUBLIC COMMENT.
17:38:20 WHAT I FOUND OVER THE YEARS IS BY DOING THE PUBLIC, IT
17:38:24 -- BY IGNORING THE PUBLIC IT ONLY GETS WORSE.
17:38:27 LET'S DO SOME PUBLIC HEARING -- PUBLIC MEETINGS TO TALK
17:38:27 ABOUT THIS.
17:38:31 BUT I DON'T RECALL ANY OF THOSE BEING DONE.
17:38:34 CERTAINLY WHEN THEY DO GET SENT OUT, I SEND THEM OUT TO
17:38:40 EVERYBODY IN THAN LAND AND FACEBOOK LAND AND NEXT DOOR
17:38:44 LAND AND I SHARE IT WITH CITY PLANNING EVENTS.
17:38:46 I DON'T RECALL IT.
17:38:48 AND I DON'T USUALLY MISS IT.
17:38:51 THAT IS MY COMMENT ON THE AGENDA ITEM.
17:38:54 GLAD PURE IS MISSING FROM THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS A GOOD
17:38:54 STEP.
17:38:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:38:57 AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
17:38:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS POYNOR.
17:39:03 MISS STROHMEYER, I SEE YOU ARE ON.
17:39:06 WE ARE TALKING OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1, NOT ABOUT PURE.
17:39:08 >> MY NOTES FROM TODAY.
17:39:11 AND HERE ARE MY NOTES FROM THE 26TH.
17:39:14 I AM NOT SURE WHY I COULDN'T GET ONLINE.
17:39:16 I AM JEAN STROHMEYER.
17:39:17 LET'S SEE.
17:39:19 HERE ARE ALL MY NOTES.
17:39:23 I WATCHED THE PRESENTATION FROM THE 26TH AGAIN JUST --
17:39:26 I JUST HAVE TO TELL THAT YOU, FIRST OF ALL, JUST BY
17:39:31 CALLING IT A PUBLICLY INITIATED BLAH-BLAH-BLAH IT
17:39:33 SOUNDS LIKE THE PUBLIC ACTUALLY INITIATED SOMETHING.
17:39:35 WE DIDN'T INITIATE ANYTHING.
17:39:38 BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN THERE WAS THIS MEET BEING
17:39:38 THIS.
17:39:39 WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
17:39:43 THAT IS KIND OF, IT'S -- YOU KNOW, I HAVE HEARD THEM
17:39:49 TESTIFY OR STATE, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM THE --
17:39:54 FROM THE MAY 26 -- THE LADY THAT SPOKE SAID, OOPS, WE
17:39:58 MISS THIS PART OF THE -- THE VERSION OUT OF THE PACKET.
17:40:01 OOPS, LIKE FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THE MEETING.
17:40:01 OOPS.
17:40:03 DID BLOOMBERG TELL HER TO STAY THAT.
17:40:07 THE NEW ACTUAL PSEUDOMAYOR OF OUR CITY?
17:40:09 JUST WONDERING.
17:40:12 WE HAVE THE TEN-YEAR WATER SUN PLY THEY ARE SAYING THIS
17:40:13 IS ABOUT.
17:40:16 WE ALREADY KNOW THAT OTHER BUZZ WORD.
17:40:17 THEY SAID IT WAS FROM FEBRUARY.
17:40:21 I AM NOT SURE WHERE, BECAUSE I LOOKED IN THE FEBRUARY
17:40:25 AGENDA -- THE MAY AGENDA, AND IT DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING
17:40:27 BEING CONTINUED FROM FEBRUARY.
17:40:28 PLEASE CLARIFY THAT.
17:40:32 I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT TAMPA BAY WATER SAYS ABOUT THIS
17:40:37 ISSUE WE ARE DEALING WITH THAT IS M MINUS THE PURE AND
17:40:38 THE PURE FUNDING.
17:40:42 AND ALSO IN THAT VIDEO -- IN THE MAY 26 MEETING, THE
17:40:44 LADE THAT GAVE THE PRESENTATION -- SHE IS STANDING
17:40:45 THERE, I GUESS.
17:40:47 SHE SAID NO OBJECTIONS.
17:40:53 BUT MY QUESTION IS, BUT THERE WAS NO DISCLOSURE.
17:40:54 NOBODY KNEW ABOUT IT.
17:40:57 MISS HURTAK SAID WHAT ABOUT THE EDUCATION FROM LAST
17:40:58 TIME, SHE SAID.
17:41:01 ARE PEOPLE BEING EDUCATED TO USE ALTERNATE MEANS OF
17:41:02 WATER?
17:41:05 I REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY WE HAD TO PUT A BRICK IN THE
17:41:08 TOILET, JUST DIFFERENT LOW FLOW OPTIONS.
17:41:13 GIVE US EDUCATION ON WATERING AND LOW-FLOW WATERING.
17:41:19 AS A MATTER OF FACT, GET RID OF ALL THE -- FOR THIS
17:41:23 MEETING FOR NOBODY TO SPEAK TO BILL CARLSON, THE VOICE
17:41:27 OF THIS ENTIRE MATTER FOR US AND Y'ALL DIDN'T SPEAK TO
17:41:28 HIM?
17:41:30 THAT IS A TRAVESTY.
17:41:33 AND SPOKE TO TWO COUNCILMEMBERS I HEARD SOMEBODY SAY.
17:41:34 WHO WERE THOSE.
17:41:36 I BET I COULD GUESS.
17:41:39 I AM NOT GOING TO SAY IT OUT LOUD BUT I GUESS.
17:41:41 I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE ANSWER.
17:41:43 PLEASE SEND IT TO ME BY E-MAIL.
17:41:49 LET'S SEE, LASTLY THE CITY -- WHAT -- SO YOU MAY BE
17:41:52 CORRECT AND EVERYBODY SAID THEY DOTTED THEIR IS AND
17:41:53 CROSSED THEIR TS.
17:41:56 THAT IS A LEGAL TERM AND I HAVE BEEN IN THE LEGAL
17:41:59 BUSINESS MY ENTIRE ADULT LIFE AND I AM OVER 50.
17:42:01 AND USE THOSE TERMS IN GENERAL.
17:42:04 AND, YES, WE DID, BUT NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF
17:42:05 TRANSPARENCY.
17:42:07 NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF GOOD FAITH.
17:42:09 IT IS NOT GOOD FAITH.
17:42:14 A REASONABLE MAN WOULD NOT DO, RIGHT, COUNCILMAN --
17:42:16 TALKING ABOUT THE ATTORNEY.
17:42:20 AND I TOLD YOU ALL I PRAY FOR YOU ALL THE TIME.
17:42:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS STROHMEYER.
17:42:28 >> SODOM AND GOMORRAH.
17:42:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. KEYPORTS.
17:42:36 >> GOOD EVENING, TIM KEYPORTS, PRESIDENT OF
17:42:37 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
17:42:40 IN REVIEWING AND PREPARING FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING, I
17:42:44 JUST WANTED TO READ A COUPLE OF ITEMS IN SIRE.
17:42:47 THIS IS THE FOURTH ATTACHMENT COMING FROM THE
17:42:49 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CITY-COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.
17:42:53 SPECIFICALLY IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL SECTION, IT SPEAKS TO
17:42:56 STRIVING TO REDUCE POTABLE WATER DEMANDS FOR
17:42:58 CONSERVATION.
17:43:01 POLICY 1.26.2.
17:43:04 CONTINUE TO DEVELOP AND PROMOTE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS
17:43:08 FOR WATER CONSERVATION GOES ON.
17:43:11 DEVELOPING AND ENFORCING WATER CONSERVATION AND
17:43:14 PROGRAMS AND EXPANDING THE DISTRIBUTION FOR RECLAIMED
17:43:14 WATER.
17:43:17 WE KNOW THAT IS THE PURPLE PIPE PROGRAM.
17:43:21 FURTHER, ONE OF THE ATTACHMENT SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT
17:43:24 CONSERVATION EFFORTS AND ADVANCED METERING
17:43:25 INFRASTRUCTURE.
17:43:28 ADDITIONAL WATER METERS TO LET YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A LEAK
17:43:32 WILL CONTINUE TO BE A PRIMARY CITY STRATEGIES TO OFFSET
17:43:36 FUTURE POTABLE USE AND REDUCE FUTURE POTABLE DEMAND.
17:43:42 AND IT EVEN SPECIFIES APPROXIMATELY 7.15 MILLION BEGAN
17:43:47 LOSS A DAY WILL BE PROJECTED RECLAIMED OFFSET BY 2040
17:43:48 PER THE S.W.F.W.M.D. STAFF.
17:43:54 SO SORT OF PIGGYBACKING OFF OF JEAN'S COMMENTS, CITY
17:43:57 COUNCIL HAD APPROVED COMMUNITY OUTREACH AS PART OF THE
17:44:01 WORD WE ARE NOT GOING TO SAY TONIGHT, BUT YET I HAVE
17:44:05 NOT SEEN ANY EFFORTS, EVEN THOUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL
17:44:09 SECTION SPEAKS TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE PROGRAM FOR WATER
17:44:11 CON WE ARE VAGUE, ETC., ETC.
17:44:16 SO IF -- IF WE ARE NOT EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AS JEAN JUST
17:44:17 POINTED OUT.
17:44:21 AND WE KNOW WE CAN SAVE FOR CONSERVATION EFFORTS AND
17:44:24 THE ADVANCED METERING DEVICES ONCE THEY ARE FULLY
17:44:27 DEPLOYED THROUGHOUT THE I DID.
17:44:32 7175 MILLION GALLONS A DAY WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT
17:44:36 POURING OF THE OVERALL 120 OR 125 GALLONS A DAY
17:44:39 REQUIREMENT THROUGH EXPANDED PUBLIC OUTREACH, AND I
17:44:42 RECOMMEND THAT GOES THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE I
17:44:45 WOULD HAVE NOT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS ISSUE HAD IT NOT
17:44:50 BEEN STEPHANIE POYNOR CALLING YESTERDAY AND SAID, DID
17:44:52 YOU KNOW THIS ITEM WAS ON THE AGENDA FOR TOMORROW
17:44:52 NIGHT.
17:44:55 I GOT THAT CALL AT 4:00.
17:44:59 SO ONE HOUR TO GET ONLINE, REGISTER TO MAKE COMMENT.
17:45:01 AND THEN A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO READ THE DOCUMENTS.
17:45:06 I DO HOPE THAT MR. MIRANDA DOES ACTUALLY READ ALL THE
17:45:07 ATTACHMENTS.
17:45:08 I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
17:45:11 AND IN ADVANCE OF VOTING.
17:45:18 THIS AGENDA ITEM INCLUDED $146 MILLION FOR THE LINE
17:45:21 ITEM WE ARE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT -- SORRY
17:45:24 $162 MILLION IN THAT LINE ITEM.
17:45:27 SO WE ARE KNOWN AS CHAMPA BAY.
17:45:30 THE REASON WE KNOW AS CHAMPA BAY.
17:45:34 WE DON'T HAVE ANY UNFORCED ERRORS ON OUR SPORTS TEAM
17:45:37 AND TIME FOR THE CITY TO STOP DOING UNFORCED ERRORS.
17:45:39 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
17:45:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:45:44 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
17:45:47 AND WE APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
17:45:50 I DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THIS ITEM WENT -- DID GO
17:45:54 THROUGH THE NORM ALLEGE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS.
17:45:59 WE DO PROVIDE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE FISH LICK
17:46:01 TO COMMENT ON THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
17:46:05 WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THE PROCESS -- THE
17:46:06 STANDARD PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED.
17:46:10 ADDITIONALLY I WAS REMISS IN NOT OFFERING YOU ALL
17:46:12 POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
17:46:15 IT SEEMED LIKE THAT WAS PERHAPS NOT THE DESIRE OF
17:46:18 COUNCIL, BUT I NEVER WANT TO ASSUME, SO I DID WANT TO
17:46:21 LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION IF YOU
17:46:27 WOULD ALL WOULD LIKE -- ME TO GO THROUGH IT.
17:46:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM FINE.
17:46:29 LET'S DO IT.
17:46:32 I CAN SIT HERE UNTIL MIDNIGHT.
17:46:33 I HAVE NO PROBLEM.
17:46:35 >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THE MOTION
17:46:35 AGAIN.
17:46:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST FINISH YOUR PRESENTATION.
17:46:41 MR. HEY, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING?
17:46:44 CITY STAFF, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING.
17:46:47 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
17:46:47 DEPARTMENT.
17:46:49 ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
17:46:52 THIS IS A PUBLICLY INITIATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
17:46:53 AMENDMENT.
17:46:56 WHAT THAT MEANS IT IS INITIATED BY CITY STAFF OR
17:46:57 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
17:47:00 THE MEANING OF "PUBLICLY INITIATIVE."
17:47:05 IRONICALLY WHEN AN AMENDMENT IS INITIATED BY A MEMBER
17:47:06 OF THE PUBLIC IT IS REFERRED TO AS PRIVATELY
17:47:08 INITIATIVE.
17:47:09 THAT IS THE DISTINCT.
17:47:12 PUBLICLY INITIATIVE.
17:47:17 DOESN'T ME A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, BUT COMING FROM
17:47:23 PLANNING STAFF OR CITY STAFF.
17:47:25 GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
17:47:27 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: JUST FOR THE INVOLVED THIS IS
17:47:29 NOT IN ANY WAY AN APPROVAL OF ANY TYPE OF FUNDING OR
17:47:32 AUTHORIZATION FOR ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT IS LISTED
17:47:35 ON ANY OF THE EXHIBITS OR ATTACHMENTS TO THE
17:47:38 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
17:47:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
17:47:42 >>LUIS VIERA: I TONIGHT STATE THE OBVIOUS TO
17:47:43 THE ADMINISTRATION.
17:47:47 I AM ALWAYS TAKEN ABACK WHEN I HEAR FROM -- ESPECIALLY
17:47:49 TONIGHT WE ARE HEARING FROM ADDITIONAL PARTS OF THE
17:47:51 CITY OF TAMPA THAT HAVEN'T BEEN HERE BEFORE ON THIS
17:47:52 ISSUE.
17:47:56 THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN -- WE ARE WE ARE TALKING OF
17:47:59 VIGOROUS OUTREACH EFFORT.
17:48:03 THAT REALLY NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WHEN I
17:48:10 READ THE E-MAILS AN SPEAKING OF SOME OF THE ACTIVISTS.
17:48:13 I READ THE E-MAILS AND WHAT WOULD OCCUR TONIGHT AND
17:48:18 THERE IS A BIG GAP THAT IS THERE.
17:48:18 AGAIN.
17:48:21 I AM NOT POINTING FINGERS OR TAKING ANY SIDES OR
17:48:26 ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, THAT ENGAGE 789 AND LEVEL OF
17:48:29 TRUST NEEDS CONTINUE TO BE PUSHED FORWARD BECAUSE A LOT
17:48:31 OF SKEPTICISM THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HEAR
17:48:35 ABOUT AND WHAT NOT.
17:48:38 I AM AN INFORMING INQUIRING EFFORT ON THIS ISSUE BUT A
17:48:48 DUTY TO CONTINUE TO ENGAGE AND TONIGHT, I THINK I JUST
17:48:50 SEE IF MORE ACUTELY.
17:48:53 TONIGHT, I SEE A BIG DUTY TO CONTINUE TO ENGAGE ON THAT
17:48:54 ISSUE.
17:48:57 >> COUNCIL, FIVE YOUR AGREEMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
17:48:59 ONE QUICK COMMENT TO THAT, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
17:49:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.
17:49:04 >> UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TWO AGENCY PROCESSES THAT SORT
17:49:06 OF HAD AN INTERFACE HERE TONIGHT.
17:49:08 AND WE REGRET ANY CONFUSION.
17:49:11 YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
17:49:15 AND AS MR. CARLSON SAID EARLIER, WE PLAN TO HAVE
17:49:19 VIGOROUS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OFTEN THE PURE PROJECT.
17:49:21 WE WILL BE COMING BEFORE YOU MOST LIKELY END OF JULY
17:49:24 WITH THAT AMENDMENT YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR US TO
17:49:28 HAVE A MORE ROBUST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, AS WELL AS
17:49:31 ANALYSIS OF THE SET OF ALTERNATIVES TO MAKE SURE WE
17:49:34 LOOKED AT OTHER AT I HAVE THAT WAS ON TABLE PREVIOUSLY
17:49:37 AND NOT JUST A COUPLE THAT SEEMED TO BE STANDING OUT
17:49:39 MORE THAN OTHERS.
17:49:41 SO WE DO PLAN TO HAVE THAT PROCESS.
17:49:45 AND WE WILL BE COMING BEFORE YOU AROUND THE END OF JULY
17:49:46 FOR THAT APPROVAL.
17:49:50 SO WE CAN REALLY GO INTO THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC AT THAT
17:49:51 TIME, THE PURE PROJECT.
17:49:55 TONIGHT IS ABOUT, AS WE SAID, PUBLICLY INITIATED TEXT
17:49:59 AMENDMENT FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OPINION AGAIN, WE
17:50:02 REGRET THAT THESE PROCESSES ARE CONFUSING AND WE
17:50:06 CERTAINLY DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE IF ANYTHING
17:50:10 RELATED AT ALL RELATED TO PURE WHETHER IT IS THE CITY
17:50:14 INITIATED OR OUTSIDE OF THE CITY FOR WHATEVER REASON,
17:50:17 WE BRING THAT TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION, THE
17:50:19 STAKEHOLDER, THE COUNCIL.
17:50:21 WE APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE GIVEN US AS WELL
17:50:24 OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO ENGAGE WITH US.
17:50:26 AND I DON'T WANT TO YOU THINK WE ARE TAKING THAT
17:50:29 LIGHTLY AND NOT SINCERELY INTERESTED IN HAVING YOU
17:50:32 ENGAGED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS.
17:50:34 THANK YOU FOR THAT TIME.
17:50:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
17:50:38 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS ON
17:50:38 THAT.
17:50:43 NUMBER ONE, APOLOGIES TO MELISSA FOR HAVING TO SIT IN
17:50:46 THE HOT SEAT ON THIS.
17:50:49 THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE THEIR OWN PROCESSES AND
17:50:53 THEY WERE HAND THIS BUDGET AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS KNOW
17:50:57 THE -- THE ISSUES BEHIND THE ISSUES AS THEY GO FORWARD.
17:50:59 THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP THERE.
17:51:02 THE SECOND THING IS TO MISS DUNCAN.
17:51:06 PUBLIC COMMENT I THINK SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A COUPLE
17:51:06 OF YEARS AGO.
17:51:08 WE PAID FOR SOME PUBLIC COMMENT.
17:51:13 THE BASIC PUBLIC COMMENT HAS TO BE ON TWO ISSUES.
17:51:17 ONE, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS 50 M GD.
17:51:21 WE ALREADY KNOW THAT IT IS CLEANER -- THE WATER IS
17:51:24 CLEANER THAN THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER COMING OUT AND WE
17:51:29 KNEW FROM ESTUARY PROGRAMS AND OTHERS, THAT IT IS
17:51:31 HELPING THE BAY AS IT IS.
17:51:32 THE SECOND THING.
17:51:36 WHAT SHOULD WE DO WITH THE 50 MGD.
17:51:39 SEPARATE FROM THAT A QUESTION OF HOW DO WE PROVIDE
17:51:42 SAFETY, WALL, COST EFFECTIVE DRINKING WATER FOR OUR
17:51:43 CITIZENS IN THE FUTURE.
17:51:45 AND IT IS NOT LIKE WE HAVE A SHORTAGE.
17:51:47 WE KNOW WE CAN BUY IT FROM TAMPA BAY WATER.
17:51:50 THEY HAVE A ROLLING 20-YEAR PLAN.
17:51:56 AND WE CAN FIND WAYS TO PROVIDE OUR OWN.
17:51:59 BUT WE -- AS WE LOOK AT THE SECOND ONE, WE NEED TO BE
17:52:00 HONEST ABOUT IT.
17:52:04 AS THE MAYOR SAYS AND I AGREE -- I HAVE 20 TO 30 YEARS
17:52:06 EXPERIENCE IN WATER ISSUES.
17:52:10 WATER IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR FUTURE AND THE
17:52:13 WAY WE HAVE GONE ABOUT IT IN THE PAST IS NOT THE RIGHT
17:52:14 WAY.
17:52:16 SOMEBODY EITHER POLITICALLY OR WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT
17:52:17 WANTS THIS PROJECT.
17:52:19 AND THEY WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET THIS PROJECT.
17:52:22 AND THEY DON'T CARE OF LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVES.
17:52:25 I HOPE WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH THE ALTERNATIVES
17:52:28 OBJECTIVE ALTERNATIVES.
17:52:30 ANSWER THOSE TWO QUESTIONS.
17:52:34 WHAT SHOULD WE DO WITH THE 50 MGD.
17:52:37 AND HOW TO PROVIDE SAFE, QUALITY DRINKING WATER.
17:52:40 I ASK THE DEPARTMENT WHEN YOU ARE TALKING TO THE MAYOR.
17:52:41 TELL HER THE TRUTH.
17:52:44 THE LAST TIME I MET WITH THE MAYOR, SHE TURNED TO ME
17:52:47 AND SAID -- JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, SHE SAID WE CAN'T
17:52:49 BUY WATER FROM TAMPA BAY WATER.
17:52:52 I SAID WHY NOT.
17:52:56 SHE SAID THEIR WATER QUALITY IS NOT GOOD.
17:53:02 I SAID MADAM MAYOR, WE TOOK CARE OF THIS THREE YEARS
17:53:04 AGO WHEN IT CAME OUT.
17:53:05 AND GETTING DIFFERENT REPORTS.
17:53:09 NOT THAT THE QUALITY OF WATER FROM TAMPA BAY WATER IS
17:53:12 BAD, BUT TWO DIFFERENT SOURCES AND TWO DIFFERENT
17:53:14 METHODS OF TREATING IT.
17:53:18 AND A SIMPLE FIX FOR A PROBLEM.
17:53:21 AND SHE HAS BEEN GIVEN THE INFORMATION.
17:53:25 ALSO SHE SAID TO ME AT ONE POINT, WELL, I MENTIONED
17:53:30 DE SAL AND SHE SAID IT DOESN'T WORK.
17:53:33 I SAID IT WAS OPERATING SINCE THE BEGINNING.
17:53:36 SHE SAID IT IS NOT OPERATING AT FULL CAPACITY.
17:53:39 I SAID IT DOES NOT OPERATE AT FULL CAPACITY BECAUSE IT
17:53:41 IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE SOURCE.
17:53:44 WE DON'T WANT THEM TO RUN IN CAPACITY.
17:53:47 IF YOU WERE TALKING TO THE MAYBE, SHE NEEDS TO KNOW THE
17:53:47 TRUTH.
17:53:59 AND NEED TO KNOW ALL THE PERMUTATION ABOUT IT.
17:54:02 SO WE CAN TALK TO THE PUBLIC AND HAVE AN HONEST
17:54:06 ENGAGEMENT BUT FOR SOME REASON ONE CONVINCED HER IT IS
17:54:08 A GOOD IDEA AND ABSOLUTELY NOT.
17:54:11 ANY ENGINEER OUTSIDE THE CITY KNOWS THIS IS A BAD IDEA.
17:54:14 PLEASE, GOD, FIND A WAY TO SHOW THE MAYOR THE OBJECTIVE
17:54:18 VIEW AND US WHAT THE OBJECTIVE VIEWS AND WE WILL COME
17:54:20 WITH A SOLUTION THAT IS GOOD TO THE PUBLIC.
17:54:24 PUT THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND MAYOR ON THE SAME SIDE OF
17:54:27 THE TABLE AND GO TO THE PUBLIC AND FIND ANSWERS TO
17:54:44 THOSE TWO QUESTIONS WE WILL FIND A WAY TO DO THIS
17:54:47 PROJECT GUDES LET ME SAY ONE THING.
17:54:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
17:54:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM NOT A WATER EXPERT.
17:54:53 I AM NOT THAT GUY.
17:54:56 I HAVE TO READ TO COME TO A CONCLUSION OF HOW I VOTE ON
17:54:57 ISSUES.
17:55:01 EVERYBODY HAS AN EXPERTISE.
17:55:03 KNOWING WATER BACK AND FORTH AND MR. CARLSON.
17:55:07 THANK YOU, JEAN, FOR COMING FORTH AND TELLING US WHEN A
17:55:10 MISTAKE WAS MAUDE.
17:55:12 THE MAYOR TELLS US OF TRANSPARENCY.
17:55:16 IT IS TRANSPARENT WHEN IT WANTS.
17:55:22 MR. MIRANDA SAYS ALL LAW -- AND MR. CARLSON SAID, NO,
17:55:23 IT WASN'T.
17:55:25 THERE WAS A MISTAKE.
17:55:26 NOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
17:55:30 IF THEY ARE MADE, FINE.
17:55:32 TELL ME IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION COMES FROM THE CITY
17:55:35 AND TELLS US WHAT IS GOING ON WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TELL
17:55:36 WHAT HAPPENED.
17:55:38 EITHER SOMETHING COULD DROP THE BALL.
17:55:38 THAT COULD HAPPEN.
17:55:41 BUT I AM GLAD TONIGHT WE WERE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW
17:55:43 THE BALL WAS DROPPED.
17:55:45 SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU, JEAN, FOR
17:55:49 COMING FORTH AND TELLING US THE TRUTH WHAT IS GOING ON.
17:55:51 AGAIN, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
17:55:53 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
17:55:53 >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
17:55:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
17:55:56 MANISCALCO.
17:55:59 SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
17:55:59 ANY OBJECTION?
17:56:02 THANK YOU.
17:56:04 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
17:56:07 >>BILL CARLSON: MADAM CLERK, DO I NEED TO READ IT?
17:56:09 >>CLERK: YES, PLEASE.
17:56:13 >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE TA-CPA 21-27, ORDINANCE FOR
17:56:17 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION AMENDMENT -- AMENDING THE
17:56:19 IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INFRASTRUCTURE
17:56:23 AND POTABLE WATER ELEMENT BY UPDATING THE TEN-YEAR
17:56:26 WATER SUPPLY FACILITIES WORK PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022
17:56:30 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2032 PROVIDING FOR APPEAL OF
17:56:33 ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT AND PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND
17:56:36 PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE REMOVING BETWEEN FIRST AND
17:56:40 SECOND READING ANY REFERENCES TO -- ANY REFERENCES OR
17:56:45 BUDGETS FOR THE PURE PROJECT AND OR WATER REUSE.
17:56:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
17:56:49 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
17:56:52 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
17:56:53 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
17:56:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MADE A STATEMENT EARLIER IF YOU
17:56:58 WANTED ME TO READ ALL THE ITEMS -- THE
17:57:01 INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION SECTION, CAPITAL
17:57:03 IMPROVEMENT SECTION, ENVIRONMENTAL SECTION, POTABLE
17:57:10 WATER SECTION, STAFF ANALYSIS, RECOMMENDATIONS,
17:57:13 INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION SECTION, ENVIRONMENTAL
17:57:16 SECTION, AND POTABLE WATER SECTION, I WILL BE MORE THAN
17:57:19 HAPPY TO READ THEM ALL INTO THE RECORD AND IT WILL TAKE
17:57:21 HOUR AND A HALF BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM.
17:57:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT A MOTION?
17:57:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM SAYING IF YOU WANT ME TO DO
17:57:25 IT.
17:57:27 I WANT TRANSPARENCY.
17:57:29 I WANT THIS WHOLE THING CLEAN.
17:57:32 LIKE BOTTLED WATER AND NOT THE CLASSIC POISON IN IT.
17:57:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WATCH OUT, BOTTLED WATER IS NOT HELD
17:57:37 TO THE SAME STANDARDS AS CITY WATER IS.
17:57:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WOULD YOU BE SURPRISED.
17:57:45 YOU WANT ME TO DO IT, I WILL DO IT.
17:57:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, WE ARE GOOD.
17:57:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL DO IT BETWEEN FIRST AND
17:57:51 SECOND READING.
17:57:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
17:57:55 THE ONLY THING I WILL SAY IS THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO HAS
17:57:58 BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS EVENING.
17:58:00 ROLL CALL VOTE.
17:58:01 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
17:58:02 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
17:58:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
17:58:05 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
17:58:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
17:58:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
17:58:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
17:58:12 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY SECOND READING AND
17:58:18 ADOPTION HELD JULY 14, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
17:58:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
17:58:23 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, MISS
17:58:26 DUNCAN FOR PROMISING THAT.
17:58:28 YOU PROBABLY SAVED AN HOUR OR TWO TONIGHT.
17:58:34 THANK YOU.
17:58:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, F 22-57284.
17:59:01 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
17:59:03 I'M HERE TODAY TO --
17:59:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOUR NAME PLEASE.
17:59:10 >> KAON HENDERSON, MANAGER OF CITY OF TAMPA HOUSING AND
17:59:11 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION.
17:59:15 I'M HERE TO GO OVER OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND OUR
17:59:17 CONSOLIDATED ACTION PLAN.
17:59:20 I DO BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE POWERPOINT.
17:59:24 CCTV HAS THE POWERPOINT THAT WE WILL PULL UP.
17:59:26 WE ARE IN AN UNIQUE YEAR.
17:59:29 EVERY YEAR WE HAVE OUR ACTION PLAN BUT THIS IS THE YEAR
17:59:33 TO DO OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN THAT IS DESIGNED TO HELP
17:59:38 JURISDICTIONS ASSESS THEIR COMMUNITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING
17:59:40 NEED.
17:59:44 THE COMP PLAN DESCRIBE THE MULTIYEAR GOALS ARE, THE
17:59:46 NEED AND THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES.
17:59:49 AS THEY SKIP OVER THE NEXT TWO SLIDES, IT WILL BRING TO
17:59:54 YOU THE FIRST SLIDE THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT THE ANNUAL
17:59:55 ACTION PLAN IS.
17:59:58 IT DOES GIVE THE ACT 80S THIS WE WILL UNDERTAKE AS THE
17:59:59 CITY OVERALL.
18:00:01 WHAT WE WILL DO FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR AND ADDRESS THE
18:00:02 HOUSING NEEDS.
18:00:05 APPEAR THIS YEAR, BECAUSE WE ARE IN OUR CONSOLIDATED
18:00:08 PLAN YEAR, WE WILL HAVE OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN SUBMITTED
18:00:14 TO HUD IN D.C., AS WELL AS OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND
18:00:15 PART OF IT FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
18:00:18 THE FUNDING SOURCES THAT IS PART OF THIS WILL ALL BE
18:00:19 FEDERAL FUNDS.
18:00:22 IT WILL BE OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT,
18:00:24 EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT, HOUSING OPPORTUNITY FOR
18:00:28 PERSONS WITH AIDS AND HIV, AS WELL AS OUR HOME
18:00:31 INVESTMENT PROGRAM AND I WILL TALK A LITTLE MORE WHAT
18:00:34 THOSE PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY WILL DO.
18:00:37 AS WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, GIVES A LITTLE BIT WHAT
18:00:39 CDBG IS.
18:00:43 IT IS AN ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM FOR LARGER CITIES AND
18:00:47 :COUNTIES TO DEVELOPMENT.TO DO SAFE HOUSING DECENT IN A
18:00:50 SUITABLE LIVING ENVIRONMENT THAT EXPANDS ECONOMIC
18:00:52 OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO FOR
18:00:56 SERVICES FOR THOSE LOW TO MODERATE -- LOW-INCOME
18:00:58 FAMILIES AND HOUSEHOLDS.
18:01:02 OUR ESG -- THAT IS PROBABLY THE SMALLEST PART AND YOU
18:01:04 CAN SEE OVERALL WHAT WE GET.
18:01:06 THE EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE
18:01:07 WHO ARE HOMELESS.
18:01:13 WE GET ROUGHLY ABOUT $270,000 SO SOLVE THE HOMELESS
18:01:18 ISSUE SPECIFICALLY SO IS WE DO GET INNOVATIVE AND
18:01:21 CREATE OTHER WAYS TO USE OTHER FUNDS TO HELP COMBAT
18:01:21 THAT.
18:01:24 AND THAT DOES COME WITH SOME RULES THAT WE CAN USE FOR
18:01:25 SHELTER OPERATIONS.
18:01:29 WHAT WE CAN USE FOR RAPID REHOUSING, OUTREACH.
18:01:31 BECAUSE WE HAVE LIMITED FUNDS WE PUT MOST OF THAT
18:01:35 TOWARD OUR RAPID REHOUSING TO RAPIDLY GET SOMEONE
18:01:40 REHOUSED AS WELL AS SHELTER OPERATIONS.
18:01:45 THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS OUR GRANT, HOUSING OPPORTUNITY FOR
18:01:47 PERSONS WITH AIDS AND HIV.
18:01:50 THE CITY IS UNIQUE WITH THIS ONE GRANT THAT WE ACTUALLY
18:01:53 OVERSEE FOR FOUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES.
18:01:57 WE OVERSEE THIS GRANT FOR HILLSBOROUGH, PASCO, HERNANDO
18:01:58 AND PINELLAS.
18:02:01 THAT IS OUR LARGEST GRANT FUNDING WISE, BUT WE HAVE TO
18:02:04 SPREAD IT ACROSS FOUR COUNTIES.
18:02:06 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY GETS THE LARGER PORTION OF THAT,
18:02:09 BUT AGAIN THAT IS $4.6 MILLION AND I WILL GO OVER THAT
18:02:12 A LITTLE BIT LATER.
18:02:16 OUR HOME INVESTMENT PROPRIETORSHIP PROGRAM A WIDE RANGE
18:02:18 OF HOUSING-RELATED ACTIVITIES.
18:02:21 A LOT OF I'M WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO WITH HOUSING
18:02:24 BUT THE ONLY FEDERAL GRANT THAT WE HAVE THAT CAN DO NEW
18:02:28 CONSTRUCTION AND THIS ONE CAN BE, AGAIN, FOR LOW AND
18:02:31 MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLDS.
18:02:34 AS WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, HAS SOME OF THE PRIORITY
18:02:35 NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED.
18:02:36 HOUSING REHABILITATION.
18:02:40 WE KNOW THAT OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM REALLY IS A
18:02:41 BIG NEED.
18:02:48 SO WE SET ASIDE FUNDS FOR THAT OFFERED AS A FOR
18:02:51 GIVEABLE LOAN FOR HOMEOWNERS TO HELP THEM STAY WHERE
18:02:54 THEY ARE AND MAINTAIN THE AFFORDABILITY.
18:02:58 THE HOMEOWNER ASSISTANCE, OUR DARE PROGRAM THAT WITH
18:03:01 PROVIDE THE GAP FUNDING FOR THOSE WHO HAVE A DREAM OF
18:03:02 OWNING THEIR OWN HOME.
18:03:04 RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
18:03:11 WE HAVE TBRA.
18:03:15 AND IT IS SPECIFIC FOR THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS.
18:03:18 A PROGRAM THAT WE USE OUR HOME DOLLARS TO STRETCH.
18:03:22 TENANT RENTAL BASED ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT ASSIST
18:03:23 THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS.
18:03:26 THEY GET A VOUCHER FOR UP TO TWO YEARS WHILE WE WORK ON
18:03:29 GETTING THEM SELF-SUFFICIENT.
18:03:32 67 TO 70 FAMILIES WE ARE ABLE TO FUND THROUGH THAT.
18:03:36 THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NEW
18:03:38 CONSTRUCTION STILL AS A PRIORITY NEED AND MAKING SURE
18:03:42 WE EXPAND WHAT OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING EFFORTS ARE.
18:03:44 THE HOME FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR THAT.
18:03:52 AND SO WE DIDN'T DO A RFA FOR HOME FUNDS BUT HOW WE
18:03:54 MAXIMIZE TO GET NEW CONSTRUCTION.
18:03:59 THOSE FUNDS ARE ALSO USED FOR DOWNPAYMENT ASSISTANCE AS
18:04:02 WELL AS OUR OWNER-POCK PIED REHAB.
18:04:04 WE SUPPORTED HOUSING OPERATION AND PUBLIC SERVICE
18:04:06 ASSISTANCE.
18:04:12 THROUGH OUR C DG EFFORTS WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE
18:04:15 WRAP-AROUND SERVICES FOR THE HOPWA.
18:04:22 THEY HAVE TO HAVE EITHER YOU HIV OR AIDS OR AN FAMILY
18:04:27 MEMBER WITH HIV OR AIDS IN THE HOUSE HOLD UNDER 18.
18:04:30 AND A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT OUR FUNDING REWARDS ARE.
18:04:33 A SLIGHT INCREASE ON OUR FUNDING.
18:04:34 VERY SLIGHT.
18:04:38 FOR CDBG, $3.1 MILLION.
18:04:41 FOR HOME, $1.9.
18:04:44 HOPWA, 2.6.
18:04:50 HELP IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS LISTED HERE NOT A FEDERAL
18:04:53 SOURCE, $2.8.
18:04:55 WE LIKE TO SHOW THIS.
18:04:59 APPROXIMATELY $13 MILLION TO ALLOCATE THROUGHOUT THE
18:05:00 YEAR FOR HOUSING PROJECTS.
18:05:06 THE NEXT SLIDE HAS THE CALENDAR OF EVENTS RELEASED THE
18:05:10 RFA FOR CDBG-ONLY.
18:05:15 THE REASON IT IS ONLY CGBG, SOME GRANTS ARE IN
18:05:17 MULTIYEAR AGREEMENTS.
18:05:20 AND DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THE RFA.
18:05:24 WE DID A VIRTUAL ASSISTANCE WORKSHOP, AND FOR THOSE WHO
18:05:27 WANTED TO COME IN PERSON TO COME IN PERSON AND QUITE A
18:05:29 FEW AGENCIES ATTEND AND 14 AGENCIES THAT ACTUALLY
18:05:31 RESPONDED TO THAT.
18:05:34 WE HAD THE -- AFTER THE WORKSHOP, WE GAVE THEM THE
18:05:38 ABILITY TO ASK QUESTIONS IN CASE ANYTHING WASN'T CLEAR
18:05:40 OR ONCE THEY STARTED THE APPLICATION PROCESS, THEY
18:05:41 NEEDED CLARIFICATION.
18:05:43 ONCE THEY SUBMITTED THOSE QUESTIONS TO US.
18:05:47 WE ANSWERED THEM AND GAVE THEM A CHANCE TO ANSWER
18:05:49 CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ON TOP OF THAT.
18:05:51 WE DID THE PROPOSAL REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION WHERE WE
18:05:54 GET WITH SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN THE COMMUNITY TO
18:05:57 KIND OF COME BACK AND REVIEW THOSE ACTIONS AND GIVE
18:06:01 WHAT THEY HAVE SEEN AS EFFICIENCIES IN THE APPLICATION.
18:06:04 AS THEY GO THROUGH THE RENEGOTIATION PROGRAM PROCESS,
18:06:08 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A FUND AGREEMENT AND FUNDS
18:06:09 TO HELP THE PUBLIC.
18:06:12 I'M HERE TODAY HIGHLIGHTED FOR THE FIRST PUBLIC
18:06:12 HEARING.
18:06:16 I COME BACK ON JUNE 23 FOR THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING
18:06:19 AND OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS PERIOD FOR 30 DAYS WHERE
18:06:22 WE THEN HAVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL WHO WE PLAN TO FUND
18:06:30 AND HOW THE DOLLARS WILL BE ALLOCATED SPECIFICALLY.
18:06:35 SO JULY 14 IT DOES CLOSE THE -- THE COMMENT PERIOD
18:06:37 WHERE WE WILL COME BEFORE WITH YOU THAT DRAFT ACTION
18:06:39 PLAN WITH ALL THE COMMENTS THAT COME IN.
18:06:48 IN BETWEEN THOSE DAYS, THE 30-DAY PERIOD WILL HAVE
18:06:50 MEETINGS WHERE WE WILL HAVE THE PUBLIC COME OUT.
18:06:53 THE PUBLIC INPUT SURVEY WHERE THEY CAN COME OUT AND
18:06:56 TELL US WHERE THEY NEED THE NEED TO ADDRESS HOUSING AND
18:06:59 REALLY DRAFT A REALLY SOLID CONSOLIDATED PLAN.
18:07:01 ONCE WE HAVE THAT, WE WILL COME BACK BEFORE AUGUST 4
18:07:06 FOR THAT FINAL PLAN TO BE SUBMITTED TO HUD AND AUGUST
18:07:10 15 TO LOOK HOW TO START THE NEW CONTRACTS WITH THE
18:07:11 AGENTS ON OCTOBER 1.
18:07:15 ON THE NEXT SLIDE IT HAS WHERE WE NOTICED FOR THE
18:07:18 FUNDING RESOURCES, WHERE WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE
18:07:20 DIFFERENT APPLICATION PROCESSES.
18:07:23 WE DID LEAVE -- WHEN WE DID THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
18:07:27 WORKSHOP WE HAD THAT RECORDED SO WE CAN PUT IT ON THE
18:07:30 WEB SITE SO PEOPLE CAN REQUEST BACK AND HAVE IT AS A
18:07:32 RESOURCE AS THEY CONTINUE THROUGH THE ACTUAL
18:07:33 APPLICATION PROCESS.
18:07:35 THE NEXT SLIDE TALKS ABOUT THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
18:07:36 PLAN.
18:07:40 AGAIN, WE REALLY -- DURING THE -- WHEN WE HAD THOSE
18:07:44 SEVEN MEETINGS WE ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO DEVELOP THE
18:07:47 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HEAR FROM THOSE
18:07:50 THAT WE WILL DIRECTLY IMPACT.
18:07:52 WE WILL REACH OUT TO THE DIFFERENT NONPROFITS AND DID
18:07:56 US TO COME -- IF THEY HAVE CLIENTS TO SEND THE CLIENTS
18:07:59 BECAUSE WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM AT THIS TIME,
18:08:03 BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONE TIME THEY CAN GIVE THEIR INPUT
18:08:04 TO THIS.
18:08:07 THE NEXT SLIDE -- AGAIN, WE ARE ASKING THEM WHAT COULD
18:08:09 THEY THINK TAMPA'S PRIORITIES IN RELATIONSHIP TO
18:08:11 DEVELOPING IS.
18:08:14 WE KNOW WE ARE GOING IN WITH WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE.
18:08:18 BUT DURING THE PUBLIC MEETINGS, WE-OUTS LINED WHAT THE
18:08:19 FUNDING SOURCES ARE.
18:08:21 WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE.
18:08:25 FUNDING SOURCES AND GET CREATIVE FOR THOSE WHO ATTEND
18:08:28 THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
18:08:32 THE NEXT SLIDE SHOW A PUBLIC SURVEY ON THE WEB SITE FOR
18:08:33 ENTIRE 30 DAYS.
18:08:36 WE LEAVE COPIES HERE, DOWNTOWN.
18:08:38 TOWNSHIPS AT OUR OFFICE.
18:08:41 AND IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED THEY CAN FILL OUT THE
18:08:43 SURVEY AND LEAVE THE INFORMATION WHERE THEY CAN SUBMIT
18:08:44 THEIR SURVEY.
18:08:47 IF OFFICER NOT INTERESTED IN DOING THE SURVEYS, WE WILL
18:08:50 TAKE THEIR COMMENTS AND HAVE AN E-MAIL ADDRESS WHERE
18:08:52 THEY CAN LEAVE THOSE.
18:08:59 AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
18:09:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
18:09:06 CAN YOU SEND US THIS POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
18:09:07 >> WILL DO, YES.
18:09:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
18:09:12 I WAS JUST HAVING DISCUSSION WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH
18:09:13 TAMPA HOMELESS INITIATIVE.
18:09:16 I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE HAD THIS.
18:09:17 PLEASE AND THANK YOU.
18:09:18 >> THANK YOU.
18:09:20 MAST FAST IS A PUBLIC HEARING, BY THE WAY.
18:09:24 WE NEED TO ASK IF ANYONE IS HERE TO SPEAK.
18:09:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE MISS STROHMEYER ON THE LINE.
18:09:32 ANYONE IN THE ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT TO THIS?
18:09:35 MISS STROHMEYER.
18:09:37 >> HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
18:09:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
18:09:44 >> HEY, I AM GLAD THIS IS A -- THEY ARE HELPING PEOPLE
18:09:45 WITH AIDS.
18:09:50 I AM JUST WANTING TO -- MY QUESTION IS, I HAVE SEVERAL
18:09:55 FRIENDS -- WELL, TWO IN PARTICULAR THAT ARE STRUGGLING
18:09:58 TO MEET THEIR HOUSE HOLD NEEDS BECAUSE THEY HAVE
18:09:59 CANCER.
18:10:02 WHY IS EVERYTHING SPECIFIC TO AIDS AND HOW COME WE
18:10:04 CAN'T EXTEND THIS TO CANCER.
18:10:07 LIKE I SAID, I HAVE TWO FRIENDS WHO CANNOT WORK BECAUSE
18:10:08 THEY HAVE CANCER.
18:10:12 AND THEY NEED HELP.
18:10:14 SO, KNOW, THAT'S IT.
18:10:17 EVERYTHING -- IT IS ABOUT THE AIDS AND GIVE PEOPLE
18:10:19 HOUSING.
18:10:22 WE ALSO HAVE OBVIOUSLY A HOMELESS PROBLEM.
18:10:25 WE ARE TRYING TO WORK ON THAT DOWN HERE.
18:10:29 BUT, AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE
18:10:30 BODIED TO WORK.
18:10:33 I KNOW PEOPLE WITH AIDS AND THEY HAVE GREAT JOBS IN THE
18:10:37 BANKING INDUSTRY AND THE GYM INDUSTRY.
18:10:39 AND, AGAIN, PEOPLE WITH CANCER WHO CAN'T WORK BECAUSE
18:10:44 OF CHEMO AND RADIATION AND GETTING SURGERIES, THEY
18:10:46 DON'T GET THE FUNDING LIKE THAT.
18:10:50 SO IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN EXPAND THIS TO INCLUDE
18:10:53 THOSE PEOPLE WITH OTHER PROBLEMS?
18:10:54 HEALTH ISSUES?
18:10:56 THAT'S IT.
18:10:57 >> I WILL ANSWER THAT.
18:11:00 SO UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS A FEDERAL FUNDED PROGRAM.
18:11:03 SO THE CITY DOES NOT COME UP WITH THE REGULATIONS.
18:11:05 THIS IS COMING DIRECT FREE FROM D.C.
18:11:07 THESE ARE SPECIFIC.
18:11:10 WE DO HAVE -- WE HAVE TO COLLECT DOCUMENTATION TO PROVE
18:11:13 THAT SOMEONE HAS HIV OR AIDS TO BE QUALIFIED FOR THIS
18:11:14 PROGRAM.
18:11:18 THIS IS NOT A PROGRAM THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO EXPAND.
18:11:20 >> ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU.
18:11:21 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
18:11:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
18:11:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:11:26 >> THANK YOU.
18:11:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:11:30 >> SECOND.
18:11:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
18:11:35 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
18:11:36 ALL IN FAVOR.
18:11:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
18:11:40 >>MORRIS MASSEY: NO ACTION FOR YOU TO TAKE.
18:11:42 IN IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
18:11:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST SAID MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
18:12:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 REZ 21-133.
18:12:04 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: GLAD TO BE UP HERE, ZAIN HUSSEIN,
18:12:11 LANDS DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, ITEM NUMBER 4 REZONE
18:12:18 WERE PD TO CI, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND ALL CI USES.
18:12:23 NOW THIS PART -- LOCATION IS A NUMBER OF PARCELS AND
18:12:23 ADDRESSES.
18:12:27 IT IS ENCOMPASSED BY THE NORTH, 275.
18:12:31 TO THE WEST SIDE, NORTH DALE MABRY RUNNING NORTH AND
18:12:32 SOUTH.
18:12:35 TO THE EAST SIDE, NORTH HIMES, RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH
18:12:39 AND SOUTH, YOU HAVE WEST CYPRESS STREET RUNNING EAST TO
18:12:40 WEST.
18:12:43 BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH THE PRESENTATION BY THE
18:12:45 PLANNING COMMISSION, I HAVE A STATEMENT HERE THAT I
18:12:48 WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO THE RECORD.
18:12:49 TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.
18:12:53 THERE WAS A REVISED STAFF REPORT ISSUED OUT THIS PAST
18:12:54 TUESDAY.
18:12:57 THE ORIGINAL MO REPORT FOUND THE CASE INCONSISTENCY IN
18:13:01 RELATION WITH THE PROPOSED HEIGHTS FOR THE PROJECT.
18:13:03 THIS BEING AN ERROR IN STAFF'S UNDER STANDING OF THE
18:13:08 CURRENTS PROJECT APPROVALS AND RECOGNIZED THE 189
18:13:12 APPROVALS WITH THE PROJECT FOR COORDINATION OF A
18:13:16 SUBJECT EVER A REQUESTED HEIGHT -- INCREASED TO 300
18:13:17 FEET.
18:13:19 NOW THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT NOW.
18:13:24 THE REPORT HAS BEEN UPDATED AT THE TIME TO BE THE
18:13:27 CORRECTION OF INCONSISTENT TO CONSISTENT FINDING.
18:13:32 PASS IT ALONG TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
18:13:34 >> GOOD EVENING, SAM THOMAS WITH YOUR PLANNING
18:13:39 COMMISSION STAFF.
18:13:43 SO THIS IS LOCATED IN THE WESTSHORE PLANNING DISTRICT
18:13:46 AND MORE SPECIFICALLY THE WEST TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:13:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COULD YOU ZOOM OUT, PLEASE.
18:13:53 THANK YOU.
18:13:59 >> THE CHOICEST TRANSIT STOP IS FRONT OF IT.
18:14:03 MACFARLAND IS THE CLOSEST RECREATION AND ONE MILE
18:14:06 NORTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE SITE IS IN A
18:14:10 LEVEL D EVACUATION ZONE.
18:14:14 HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
18:14:17 YOU CAN SEE IT IS BOUND BY 275 TO THE NORTH.
18:14:19 DALE MABRY HIGHWAY TO THE WEST, HIMES AVENUE TO THE
18:14:23 EAST AND WEST CYPRESS STREET TO THE SOUTH.
18:14:31 THE PREDOMINANT-LIKE SURROUNDING AREA IS COMMERCIAL IN
18:14:35 NATURE BUT PAST HIMES, YOU GET MORE RESIDENTIAL USES.
18:14:39 AND HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAPS.
18:14:41 THE CLOUD COVERS ARE SKEWED BECAUSE OF THE HATCHING
18:14:45 OVER THE SITE, BUT THE ENTIRE SITE IS RECOGNIZED UNDER
18:14:48 RMU-6.
18:14:53 PURPLE, PINKISH COLOR FROM OUTSIDE OF THE BUSINESS
18:14:56 DISTRICT THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
18:15:01 WE GO EAST, THE RED COLOR IS THE CU-35.
18:15:05 AND ONCE GO GET OUT OF THE HIMES CORRIDOR LOWER
18:15:10 INTENSITY USES IN THE R-10 AND R-20 IN THIS BROWN
18:15:11 COLOR.
18:15:14 THE APPLICANT IS ADDING TWO PARCELS GENERALLY NORTHWEST
18:15:17 OF THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH HIMES TO WEST CYPRESS
18:15:20 STREET TO AN EXISTING PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IN 2018.
18:15:27 THE SUBJECT SITE IS ADJACENT TO DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
18:15:30 PD PROPOSES .200.
18:15:34 WHICH IS 62% OF THE DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE MIXED
18:15:37 USE 100 DESIGNATION.
18:15:39 THE PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS THE PROPOSED USES AND
18:15:43 INTENSITY IS CONSISTENCY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
18:15:44 WITHIN CITY.
18:15:48 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGE MIXED USE, RETAIL AND
18:15:52 OTHER PEDESTRIAN USES FOR MIXED USE CORRIDORS BY
18:15:55 PLACING THEM TO THE FRONT OF PROPERTY WITH ENTRIES AND
18:15:56 STOOPS FACING THE STREET.
18:16:05 THE SITE PLAN SHOW FOUR PEDESTRIAN, IN BLOCK I.
18:16:07 THE APPLICANT IS UTILIZING A WAIVER THAT WAS APPROVED
18:16:13 IN REZ 180209 ALLOW CERTAIN BUILDINGS TO ORIENT TOWARD
18:16:15 THE SIDEWALKS OF CERTAIN STREETS.
18:16:17 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF ACKNOWLEDGES AND A PREVIOUS
18:16:18 WAIVER ON THE SITE.
18:16:22 AND A NOTE STATING THAT PEDESTRIANS CAN BE MODIFIED.
18:16:29 ASK THE APPLICANT TO ENGAGE THE NORTH HIMES CORRIDOR OF
18:16:31 SITE PLAN PROCESS.
18:16:34 IT IS IN CONCLUSION, COMBATABLE WITH THE MIXED USE 100
18:16:35 DESIGNATION.
18:16:37 COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING
18:16:38 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
18:16:42 AND FURTHERMORE, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
18:16:45 FORM STRATEGY PROMOTE HOUSING DENSITY AND WALKING AND
18:16:48 TRANSPORTATION NEAR RESIDENTIAL SERVICES AND AMENITIES.
18:16:50 THAT IS MY PRESENTATION OPINION.
18:16:53 AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
18:16:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
18:17:00 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, ZAIN HUSSEIN, LANDS DEVELOPMENT
18:17:01 COORDINATION.
18:17:04 I WILL GO AHEAD AND SHARE THE OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE SITE
18:17:06 PLAN HERE.
18:17:09 SO LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN HERE, YOU WILL SEE WE ARE
18:17:12 PROPOSING -- THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A REZONE CI,
18:17:17 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, 1809 TO
18:17:19 PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
18:17:21 IN TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF RESIDENTIAL
18:17:24 MULTIFAMILY AND ALL CI USES.
18:17:29 SUBJECT SITE CONTAINED 19.5 ACRES AND MAXIMUM BUILDING
18:17:37 AREA PROPOSES 18 -- 1,869,000 SQUARE FEET.
18:17:42 THE SITE IS THE MIDTOWN TAMPA PROJECT APPROVED IN 2018
18:17:45 FUND PD 18-09.
18:17:50 ALSO FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND ALL CI USES.
18:17:53 THE MAJORITY OF THE PROJECT IS ALREADY DEVELOPED HERE.
18:17:56 MAJORITY IS ALREADY DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
18:18:00 ASSOCIATED DESIGN BOOK AS PART OF THE PD.
18:18:03 DEVELOPMENT HAS OCCURRED IN THE WESTERN, NORTHERN,
18:18:11 CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
18:18:14 THERE ARE TWO OTHER ADDITIONAL PARCELS THAT HAVE BEEN
18:18:20 OBTAINED BY THE APPLICANT CONTAINING A TOTAL OF $15,580
18:18:24 SQUARE FEET LOCATED ON THE WEST CYPRESS STREET.
18:18:28 I WILL SHOW YOU PICTURES OF THAT IN A SECOND.
18:18:33 THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO SUBMITTED AN UPDATE PRODUCT
18:18:36 GUIDELINES WITH THE BOOK AND WITH THE PD REQUEST AS
18:18:37 THEY MODIFIED.
18:18:44 I WILL NOW GO AHEAD AND SHARE THE AERIAL VIEW.
18:18:45 OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
18:18:48 YOU SEE THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED AS WE TALKED
18:18:53 ABOUT TO THE NORTH WE HAVE 275, WEST, NORTH DALE MABRY.
18:18:54 EAST NORTH HIMES.
18:19:01 AND WEST -- SORRY, SOUTHWEST CYPRESS STREET THAT
18:19:04 ENCOMPASSES A PROJECT OF ALL CI AND COMMERCIAL
18:19:05 ESTABLISHMENTS.
18:19:09 THE BUILDING SETBACK FOR THE BUILDINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS.
18:19:10 FIVE FEET TO THE NORTH.
18:19:11 20 FEET TO THE SOUTH.
18:19:16 20 FEET TO THE EAST AND 20 FEET TO THE WEST.
18:19:24 THE PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE DENSITY OF RMU-100.
18:19:27 AND ENCOURAGES MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
18:19:34 THE PROPOSED FLOOR AREA RATIO NOR PROJECT IS 2.20.
18:19:39 THE PROPOSED MACK MUM BUILDING HEIGHT, CNS FOR PROPOSED
18:19:41 3,000 FEET IN HEIGHT.
18:19:45 AND 260 FEET FOR THE REMAINING PROJECT AREA.
18:19:48 THIS PROJECT HAS A MULTIPLE POINTS OF ENTRY THAT I WILL
18:19:50 SHOW YOU AGAIN ON THE SITE PLAN.
18:19:54 TWO POINTS OF ACCESS HERE ON NORTH HIMES.
18:20:00 ONE POINT OF SUCCESS HERE ON WET CYPRESS AND POINT OF
18:20:04 ASSESS ON NORTH DALE MABRY.
18:20:06 I WILL SHOW YOU PICTURES.
18:20:09 YOU HAVE YOUR REI AND WHOLE FOOD OVER THERE ON THE WEST
18:20:14 PORTION.
18:20:25 COME TOGETHER ELEVATIONS PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPER AND
18:20:32 APPLICANT THIS IS WHAT BEING PROPOSED SILT.
18:20:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. HUSSEIN, WHAT DIRECTION IS THAT
18:20:37 BEING VIEWED.
18:20:46 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: NORTH HIMES RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH.
18:20:48 NO PROBLEM.
18:20:51 AND WEST CYPRESS EAST A WEST.
18:20:52 WHOLE FOODS.
18:20:57 ENTRANCE INTO THE MIDTOWN AREA OPINION AND YOU HAVE CNI
18:21:03 ALONG WEST CYPRESS AND ALONG NORTH HIMES.
18:21:05 COMING DOWN HERE, YOU WILL SEE THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS
18:21:12 AT THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH HIMES AND WEST CYPRESS.
18:21:20 YOU WILL SEE THE TWO PROPOSED 300-FEET BUILDINGS.
18:21:23 AS I WENT OUT TO THE SITE, I SAW THE PICTURES I TOOK
18:21:30 OF THE CURRENT SITE.
18:21:33 I AM RIGHT HERE IN THE PARKING LOT OF WHOLE FOODS ON
18:21:35 THE WEST SIDE RIGHT NORTH AND SOUTH.
18:21:41 YOU WILL HAVE NORTH DALE MABRY.
18:21:46 I'M HERE AT THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH HIMES.
18:21:47 AND WEST CYPRESS.
18:21:50 SO I AM ON THE SOUTHEASTERN PORTION HERE.
18:21:57 AS YOU WILL LOOK TO THE SITE OF MIDTOWN.
18:22:01 ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE FROM THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH
18:22:02 HIMES, WEST CYPRESS.
18:22:08 YOU SEE MIDTOWN.
18:22:13 LOOKING DOWN WEST CYPRESS, YOU WILL SEE -- YOU HAVE
18:22:16 COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS ALONG THE SOUTH -- SOUTH OF
18:22:17 IT.
18:22:23 MIDTOWN IS RIGHT HERE.
18:22:29 I AM AT THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT OF MIDTOWN HERE ON THE
18:22:30 EAST PORTION.
18:22:34 YOU CAN LOOK NORTH AND SOUTH ON NORTH HIMES AND HAVE
18:22:40 COMMERCIAL RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH.
18:22:43 AS I STOOD ON THE GRASSY FIELD HERE ON THE NORTHEAST
18:22:53 PORTION OF MIDTOWN, YOU WILL SEE THE SITE.
18:22:58 AGAIN, NORTH I'M, RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH.
18:23:00 COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS ACROSS THE STREET ON THE
18:23:05 EASTERN PORTION.
18:23:11 ONE OF THE ENTRANCES OF MIDTOWN.
18:23:13 I TOOK PICTURES OF THE CURRENT SITE.
18:23:21 WE HAVE THE HOTEL THERE.
18:23:23 TO THE SOUTH, TWO COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS I TOOK
18:23:31 PICTURES OF RIGHT BELOW.
18:23:41 ONE OF ENTRANCES ON WEST CYPRESS STREET RUNNING EAST TO
18:23:41 WEST.
18:23:42 MIDTOWN SIGN.
18:23:46 AS I WENT TO THE NORTH -- NORTH-NORTHWEST PORTION OF
18:23:47 THE SITE.
18:23:50 I WILL TAKE A PICTURE OF THE PARKING GARAGE ON THE
18:23:52 NORTHWEST PORTION.
18:23:58 AND IF YOU LOOK TURN MY BACK AND TURN AROUND, RETENTION
18:24:06 POND AND 275 RUNNING EAST TO WEST TO THE NORTH.
18:24:10 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION HAS FOUND THIS PROJECT TO BE
18:24:13 CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
18:24:16 IF APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO
18:24:20 MAKE CHANGES AS PER THE REVISED SHEET ON THE STAFF
18:24:20 REPORT.
18:24:23 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
18:24:23 SY.
18:24:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS.
18:24:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, BUT I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING
18:24:30 THE ONE THAT THE OLD DINER WAS MOVED TO THE SITE.
18:24:33 AND WHEN THEY CLOSED IT, THEY MOVED IT THERE AND IT
18:24:34 NEVER DID VERY WELL.
18:24:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I ATE THERE ONCE.
18:24:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DIDN'T DO VERY WELL.
18:24:42 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THAT THE ONE THAT WAS ON KENNEDY.
18:24:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE ON DALE MABRY.
18:24:48 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT WAS THE ONE ON KENNEDY CALLED.
18:24:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GUY NAMED --
18:24:56 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE BY U. T.
18:24:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MULTIPLE.
18:24:59 ALL OF US ATE AT THE ONE ON FLORIDA.
18:25:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BRING IT BACK IN.
18:25:02 BRING IT BACK IN.
18:25:03 ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
18:25:30 PETITIONER.
18:25:33 >> GOOD EVENING MR. CHAIRMAN, WHO IS APPARENTLY NOT
18:25:37 HERE AND MEMBER OF COUNCIL.
18:25:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
18:25:40 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
18:25:45 >> MARK BENTLEY, 41 EAST JACKSON STREET, TAMPA, 33602.
18:25:49 I HAVE BEEN WORN AND I REPRESENT THE OWNER AND
18:25:52 DEVELOPERS KNOWN AS MIDTOWN.
18:25:55 HUSSEIN DID A GREAT JOB OF GETTING INTO THE DETAILS OF
18:25:56 THE PROJECT.
18:25:58 19.5 ACRES.
18:26:01 AND IT IS ABOUT 80% COMPLETE IN TERMS OF LAND AREA BUT
18:26:07 FOR TWO PARCELS CALLED I AND C.
18:26:09 AND MR. MIRANDA, YOU WERE WITH ME WHEN WE REZONED THIS
18:26:10 IN 1999.
18:26:14 AND THE DINER WAS THERE.
18:26:19 ON THE CORNER OF HIMES AND CYPRESS, FOR THE RECORD.
18:26:23 BUT THE CATALYST FOR THE MODIFICATION OF THE ZONING
18:26:26 TONIGHT IS THE ACQUISITION OF TWO PARCELS THAT
18:26:30 CONSISTENT OF ROUGHLY 15,500 SQUARE FEET.
18:26:36 THESE PARCELS WERE REMNANT TO WIDEN CYPRESS STREET BY
18:26:39 EMINENT DOMAIN THROUGH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
18:26:42 OUR CLIENT IS OFTEN A HOLDING PATTERN OF DOING ANYTHING
18:26:48 ON CYPRESS ON EAST SIDE UNTIL WE ACQUIRE THOSE TWO
18:26:49 PARCELS.
18:26:53 THE APPLICATION IS NOT REQUIRING AN INCREASE IN
18:26:53 INTENSITY.
18:26:57 AS ONE GENTLEMAN INDICATED THE FLOOR AREA RATIO FOR THE
18:27:03 PROJECT IS 2 -- 2.2 AND THAT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
18:27:08 ALLOW TO 3 F.A.R. THAT RELATES TO THE PROPERTY.
18:27:10 THAT BEING SAID, THERE WILL BE A SURPLUS IF WE WANTED
18:27:13 TO GO INTO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
18:27:18 AN EXTRA 1.1 MILLION SQUARE FEET THAT THE CLIENT HAD NO
18:27:18 NEED FOR.
18:27:24 THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE DOING TONIGHT.
18:27:27 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU ON THE OVERHEAD.
18:27:31 I AM POINTING TO PARCEL I.
18:27:42 AND THEN THIS IS C.
18:27:46 HERE IS THE SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS I AND C AND HERE ARE
18:27:52 THE TWO PARCELS THAT OUR CLIENT MENTIONED OVER THE LAST
18:27:53 TWO YEARS.
18:27:54 THEY ARE BRINGING IT INTO THE PROJECT.
18:27:57 THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD AERIAL SHOWING THE EXTENT OF
18:27:59 DEVELOPMENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
18:28:01 IT IS ROUGHLY, LIKE I SAID, 80%.
18:28:07 HERE IS I AND C AGAIN.
18:28:09 SO WHAT THIS APPLICATION WILL ACCOMPLISH IS ALLOW THE
18:28:13 DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PARCEL I WHICH WILL BE MIXED
18:28:18 USE, WHICH HAS BEEN IN A HOLDING PATTERN SUBJECT TO
18:28:20 ACQUISITION OF THE TWO PARCELS.
18:28:23 ALLOW BUILDING ADJUSTMENTS FOR PARCEL C.
18:28:27 THE ENTITLEMENTS WILL NOT CHANGE FROM PARCEL C FROM THE
18:28:31 EXISTING APPROVED PLANS AND ALLOW MINOR REVISIONS TO
18:28:34 THE PROJECT DESIGNED.
18:28:38 BOTH GUIDELINES AND MASTER SIGN PLAN.
18:28:41 AS ZAIN INDICATED ALL AGENCIES HAVE FOUND THE PROJECT
18:28:45 CONSISTENT WHICH IS PRETTY UNUSUAL FOR A PROJECT OF
18:28:47 THIS COMPLEXITY AND MAGNITUDE AND WE ARE NOT SEEKING
18:28:51 ANY WAIVERS WHICH IS PRETTY UNUSUAL AS WELL.
18:28:53 THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS FOUND THE PROJECT -- THE
18:28:57 APPLICATION TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.
18:29:00 AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
18:29:03 HOPEFULLY YOU RECEIVED A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE
18:29:05 WESTSHORE ALLIANCE.
18:29:06 I RECEIVED A COPY.
18:29:08 IT WAS DIRECTED TO YOU ALL.
18:29:11 WE AGREED FOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATION AS REQUESTED BY
18:29:20 STAFF IN THE STAFF REPORT WILL WE RESPECTFULLY ASK
18:29:21 COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
18:29:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
18:29:24 EXCUSE ME, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
18:29:26 >>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE I HEARD THE PLANNING
18:29:29 COMMISSION TALKED ABOUT ACTIVATING THE STREET ALONG
18:29:30 CYPRESS.
18:29:38 >> YEAH, WHAT WE DID -- WE WORKED WITH URBAN DESIGN IF
18:29:47 YOU SEE -- A DESIGN GUIDELINES BOOKS AND CERTAIN AREAS
18:29:53 WHERE YOU DON'T ACTIVATE WITH URBAN DESIGN IS TO ALLOW
18:29:54 A LOT OF OUTDOOR SPACE.
18:30:10 BECAUSE THERE IS NO STORE FRONTAGE AND BENCHES AND
18:30:10 MINOR STRETCH.
18:30:14 AND WHEN YOU HAVE THE RETAIL, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR MISS
18:30:29 HURTAK -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK LITTLE STRETCH OF PARKING
18:30:30 DECK.
18:30:35 IF YOU COME AROUND THE CORNER, THE I WILL BE RETAIL.
18:30:38 THERE WILL BE ACTIVATION AND DIRECT ACCESS INTO THESE
18:30:40 STORES HERE.
18:30:44 SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE ONE LITTLE HICCUP YOU CAN'T
18:30:46 AVOID WITH THESE PARKING DECKS.
18:30:48 >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
18:30:49 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
18:30:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTIONS?
18:30:58 ANYBODY HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON
18:30:58 THIS?
18:31:00 I SEE NO ONE ONLINE.
18:31:01 >>CLERK: THAT'S CORRECT.
18:31:03 NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
18:31:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
18:31:07 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
18:31:09 ALL IN FAVOR.
18:31:10 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
18:31:14 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
18:31:17 I READ AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING K,
18:31:26 ORDINANCE IN THE GENERAL HAVE A SIN TEE OF 91013615
18:31:31 BROMLEY GRAND AVENUE, 3650, 3701.
18:31:34 320 AND 3740 MIDTOWN DRIVE.
18:31:47 101 1, 1130, 3615 AND GRAMERCY LANE AND FOLIO 111
18:31:53 79, 0024.
18:31:59 COMMA 111-2716.
18:32:05 111, 111.
18:32:10 111.027.0.
18:32:13 AND 112.
18:32:15 AND IN THE CITY OF TAMPA MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
18:32:19 SECTION ONE FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD, CI
18:32:23 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PD RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND
18:32:26 ALL CI USES PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
18:32:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA AND
18:32:31 SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
18:32:32 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
18:32:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
18:32:37 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
18:32:41 >>BILL CARLSON: YES GUDES YES.
18:32:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
18:32:47 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY JULY 14, 2022 AT
18:32:58 9:30 A.M.
18:33:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, REZ-22-24.
18:33:07 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, FILE NO. TA/CPA
18:33:09 REZ-22-24.
18:33:16 411 IS WEST SAN CAR DOSE STREET FROM PLANNED
18:33:17 DEVELOPMENT SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
18:33:19 NOT ATTACHED.
18:33:21 TWO REFERRING FAMILY DETACHED.
18:33:25 I PASS IT ALONG TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
18:33:26 >> SAM THOMAS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
18:33:32 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
18:33:35 SO THIS IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT
18:33:38 AND THE PALMA CEIA WEST NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:33:43 THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP 0.4 MILE EAST OF WEST SAN
18:33:48 CARLOS AND SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
18:33:53 AND THE SITE IS LOCATED WITH AN EVACUATION ZONE B.
18:33:57 HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
18:33:59 PREDOMINANTLY -- THE AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY
18:34:03 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNIT.
18:34:06 IT IS WITHIN A FOURTH OF A MILD OF HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
18:34:08 YOU CAN SEE IT UP IN THE CORNER HERE.
18:34:10 IF YOU ARE RIGHT OVER HERE, YOU MEET HENDERSON
18:34:14 BOULEVARD HERE AND ADDITIONALLY IT IS WITHIN A HALF OF
18:34:18 A MILE TO THE EAST OVER HERE TO DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
18:34:21 BOTH HENDERSON AND DALE MABRY HIGHWAY HAVE LIGHT
18:34:22 COMMERCIAL USES ON THEM.
18:34:26 SO IT IS QUITE A WALKABLE AREA CONSIDERATION WHERE IT
18:34:32 IS LOCATED.
18:34:36 HERE IS A MAP OF THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
18:34:39 THE SITE SUNDAY THE RESIDENTIAL-6 FUTURE LAND USE
18:34:42 DESIGNATION AND THE SURROUNDING AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY
18:34:43 RESIDENTIAL-6 AS WELL.
18:34:48 AS YOU GET OVER TO THE HENDERSON BOULEVARD CORRIDOR,
18:34:52 THE CMU-35 CATEGORY.
18:34:56 BLUE CATEGORY, SEMI AND PRIVATE SCHOOL AND TWO PUBLIC
18:35:00 SCHOOLINGS AND I BELIEVE A RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.
18:35:04 THIS PORTION OF WEST SAN CARLOS AND WEST LOIS AVENUE
18:35:11 SAN CAR LOW HAVE 4.65 UNIT PER ACRE AND THE PORTION OF
18:35:15 SOUTH CAMERON BETWEEN WEST SAN MIGUEL AND WEST SAN CAR
18:35:20 LOW STREET HAS AN EXISTING DENSE TV 4.51 UNIT PER ACRE.
18:35:22 THE REQUEST WILL ALLOW TWO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
18:35:27 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT OVERALL DENSITY OF 5.7, ONE UNIT
18:35:31 PER ACRE WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENSITY OF THE
18:35:33 RESIDENTIAL-6 LAND USE DESIGNATION.
18:35:39 WILL ALLOW FOR SIMILAR IN FORM, HEIGHT, SCALE OF
18:35:41 PORTION OF SAN CARLOS STREET.
18:35:47 PROPOSED REZONING RELATES TO MANY.
18:35:52 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON VACANT, UNDERUTILIZED LAND
18:35:57 TO MAKE SURE HOUSING IS NEEDED FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE
18:35:58 POPULATION.
18:36:01 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
18:36:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
18:36:03 THANK YOU.
18:36:05 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN.
18:36:05 DEVELOPMENT BOARD ANYTHING THAT.
18:36:08 I BELIEVE I ACCIDENTALLY HANDED MY STAFF REPORT ALSO,
18:36:11 THE HIGHLIGHTED VERSION.
18:36:13 DOES ANYONE HAVE IT UP THERE?
18:36:13 STAFF REPORT?
18:36:56 NOT THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT.
18:36:57 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
18:36:59 ZAIN HUSSEIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
18:37:01 AGENDA ITEM 5.
18:37:05 WE HAVE PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS-75, RESIDENTIAL
18:37:07 SINGLE-FAMILY 75 TO PD, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
18:37:09 DETACHED.
18:37:14 FOR THE LOCATION AT 4111 WEST SAN CARLOS STREET.
18:37:17 NOW THIS SPLIT DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY WITH TWO
18:37:19 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES.
18:37:24 THIS IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH CAMERON AVENUE AND
18:37:28 ALSO WEST SAN CARLOS STREET.
18:37:30 PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND EAST AND WEST ARE
18:37:32 ALL ZONED RS-75.
18:37:36 ALL THESE LOTS ARE DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL --
18:37:40 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES.
18:37:43 THERE IS A TOTAL OF FOUR PARKING SPACES THAT ARE
18:37:46 REQUIRED, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING NINE PARKING
18:37:47 SPACES.
18:37:51 VEHICULAR ACCESS COMES FROM SOUTH CAMERON AVENUE FOR
18:37:52 DWELLING TWO.
18:37:56 AND FOR DWELLING ONE, WEST SAN CARLOS STREET.
18:37:59 OVERALL, STAFF FOUND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND
18:38:00 DEVELOPMENT CODE.
18:38:03 NOW THERE IS A REVISION SHEET FOR THE APPLICANT TO
18:38:05 PLEASE MAKE REVISIONS OF.
18:38:08 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED YOU OFF TO CITY COUNCIL LAST
18:38:08 THURSDAY.
18:38:10 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, IF NEEDED.
18:38:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
18:38:21 PETITIONER.
18:38:25 >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, TRAVIS HILLS, 5620 EAST
18:38:33 FOWLER AVENUE, SUITE 4, TEMPLE TERRACE.
18:38:36 I -- LET'S SEE HERE.
18:38:39 JUST WANT TO DESCRIBE THE PROJECT FOR YOU THIS EVENING.
18:38:43 LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING.
18:38:48 THE PROJECT -- THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS TO DIVIDE
18:38:50 THE EXISTING PROPERTY INTO TWO LOTS AS IT IS ORIGINALLY
18:38:52 PLATTED.
18:38:56 THE OVERALL OBJECTIVE IS TO CONSTRUCT ONE SINGLE-FAMILY
18:39:02 RESIDENCE PER LOT, BEING APPROXIMATELY 55 X 139 DEEP.
18:39:04 WE ARE PROPOSING TO CONNECT TO CITY OF TAMPA UTILITIES
18:39:08 AS IS AVAILABLE.
18:39:12 LOTS, AS MENTIONED WILL ACCESS CAMERON STREET FROM THE
18:39:13 INFILL LOT.
18:39:17 AND THEN A CORNER LOT THAT WILL ACCESS CAMERON ON ONE
18:39:23 SIDE AND SAN CARLOS ON THE SOUTH.
18:39:30 SO THE -- WITHIN THE REQUEST, WE ARE ASKING FOR THE PD
18:39:34 THAT WILL ALLOW FOR THE TWO LOTS.
18:39:38 THE PRINCIPAL USES ARE PERMITTED WITHIN THAT RS-75
18:39:42 ZONING THAT EXISTS.
18:39:47 FUTURE LAND USE THAT ESTABLISHES R-6, WHICH BASICALLY
18:39:51 WHEN DO YOU THE MAP TURNS BACK INTO TWO UNITS BEING
18:39:57 ALLOWED R-6 PER ACRE.
18:39:58 .35.
18:40:01 WHEN WE DO THE CALCULATIONS IT GOES BACK TO THE TWO
18:40:10 UNITS WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING.
18:40:12 NO WAIVERS ARE BEING REQUESTED.
18:40:16 OUR GOALS ARE CONSERVATIVE AND FIT WITHIN THE
18:40:17 REGULATION AS WRITTEN.
18:40:20 WE HAD A FEW COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE RESPONDED TO FROM
18:40:22 STAFF.
18:40:27 I THINK THE ONLY ONE THAT HAD ANY HE CAN TEN SIEVE
18:40:30 CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT PROTECTION OF -- OF OFF-SITE
18:40:34 TREE AND IMPACT TO ITS ROOTS THAT I THINK WE WERE
18:40:37 SUCCESSFUL IN COMING TO THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD
18:40:45 APPLY THE PROPER MEASURES THAT WAS DESCRIBED IN THE
18:40:48 CITY OF TAMPA LANDSCAPE AND TREE MANUAL THAT SPECIFY
18:40:58 HOW TO DO WORK WITHIN A PROTECTED ROOT ZONE.
18:41:00 I BELIEVE THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE
18:41:06 COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF ITS USE AS SINGLE-FAMILY AS ZAIN
18:41:06 ALREADY NOTED.
18:41:13 EVEN IN TERMS OF THE TYPE OF PRODUCT WE ARE PROPOSE
18:41:15 SOMETHING IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE
18:41:16 COMMUNITY.
18:41:20 IT'S DESIGNED, ELEVATIONS AND SO FORTH.
18:41:27 WE BELIEVE TO BE OF VALUE AN BENEFIT AND IN LINE WITH
18:41:30 WHAT IS GOING ON IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
18:41:33 SO IN CON CLUING, WE ASK FOR YOU TO CONSIDER OUR CASE
18:41:36 AND GRANT OUR REQUEST.
18:41:40 THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY
18:41:45 QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
18:41:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE WE GO INTO QUESTIONS.
18:41:50 HUSSEIN.
18:41:53 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH, ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND
18:41:53 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
18:41:57 I APOLOGIZE, MY PICTURES WERE UNDERNEATH MY BINDER.
18:42:00 I WOULD LIKE TO FOR THE RECORD SHOW YOU THE LOCATION OF
18:42:02 THE PARCELS.
18:42:10 IT IS HERE OUTLINED IN RED AS YOU SEE AROUND IT, ALL
18:42:12 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY USES.
18:42:21 I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP YOUR ATTENTION THE CONSISTENCY MAP
18:42:23 ABOUT COMPATIBILITY HERE.
18:42:25 STAFF IDENTIFIED THAT 10% OF THE LOTS IN THE STUDY
18:42:26 AREA.
18:42:28 60% OF THE SUBJECT BLOCK.
18:42:32 20% OF THE BLOCK OF WEST SAN CARLOS AND 50% OF THE
18:42:37 BLOCK FACE IS ALL WITH LOTS OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
18:42:40 THIS BEING SAID, STAFF FIND THE PROPOSED REQUEST FOR
18:42:42 REZONING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
18:42:47 PATTERN OF THE ADJACENT AREA -- OVERALL AREA AND BLOCK
18:42:55 FACE.
18:42:59 I WOULD LIKE TO POINT TO YOUR ATTENTION THE BOTH SIDES
18:43:01 PLAN.
18:43:06 AS I TALK ABOUT THE TWO POINTS OF ENTRANCE.
18:43:10 AND SHOW YOU THE ELEVATIONS BY THE APPLICANT.
18:43:27 SOUTH ELEVATION NORTH ELEVATION.
18:43:36 EAST ELEVATION.
18:43:49 AND I WENT OUT TO THE SITE THE PROPOSED LOT AND
18:43:57 PROPOSED SITE, YOU WILL SEE THE PUBLIC NOTICE SIGN.
18:44:03 YOU WILL SEE THAT INTERSECTION OF SOUTH CAMERON AND SAN
18:44:04 CARLOS STREET.
18:44:10 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
18:44:14 ALSO ADJACENT TO THE SITE DOWN THE STREET ALL
18:44:21 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
18:44:24 AND ALSO ACROSS THE STREET, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
18:44:28 HOMES.
18:44:30 STAFF HAS FOUND THIS CONSISTENT.
18:44:32 THE SITE PLANS WERE TURNED INTO THE CITY COUNCIL LAST
18:44:33 WEEK.
18:44:39 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, IF NEEDED.
18:44:40 THANK YOU, SIR.
18:44:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
18:44:47 PETITIONER.
18:44:52 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
18:44:56 ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC
18:45:49 COMMENT ON ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 5, REZ-22-24?
18:45:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: TO BE PLACED IN THE RECORD.
18:45:53 >> YES, SIR.
18:45:56 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I GAVE A COPY TO THE CLERK AND MISS
18:46:00 BENNETT GOT PERMISSION FROM TWO OTHER PERSONS TO ADD A
18:46:02 COUPLE OF MINUTES TO HER PRESENTATION.
18:46:05 DONNA VAN DAME.
18:46:07 AND LARRY BELCHER.
18:46:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW SHE HAS A TOTAL OF FIVE.
18:46:12 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, SIR.
18:46:16 >> HI, MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
18:46:19 A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF CITY OF TAMPA.
18:46:26 I LIVE IN THE AREA THAT ABUTS THE WEST.
18:46:28 YOU HAD SOMETHING THAT CAME BEFORE YOU, THE FIRST TIME
18:46:30 IT CAME BEFORE THE CITY.
18:46:32 THE APARTMENT COMPLEX DEVELOPED AND THE ELEMENTARY
18:46:34 SCHOOL DID NOT HAVE CAPACITY FOR IT, SO THAT APARTMENT
18:46:39 COMPLEX HAD TO PAY AN APPORTION SHARE OF OVER $190,000
18:46:42 BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH SPOTS FOR SEVEN
18:46:45 PROJECTED STUDENTS FOR THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
18:46:47 AND THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED TO THE
18:46:47 CITY.
18:46:50 IT HAPPENS IN THE COUNTY AIR LOT, BUT THE FIRST TIME
18:46:52 YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
18:46:55 SO ALL -- IN THE FOUR YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT
18:46:58 STAFF REPORTS, USUALLY THERE IS A CONCURRENCY REPORT
18:47:01 AND I DIDN'T SEE ONE IN THIS STAFF REPORT.
18:47:04 BUT I BROUGHT ONE WITH ME FROM THE -- THIS IS OVER A
18:47:04 YEAR OLD.
18:47:08 IT WAS FOR A BEACH PARK REZONING.
18:47:14 AND YOU WILL SEE THAT NOT JUST ELEMENTARY, BUT MIDDLE
18:47:17 SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL ARE ALL OVER 103%.
18:47:20 109% AND 102%.
18:47:26 THESE PEOPLE WILL GO TO DALE MABRY INSTEAD OF GRADY AND
18:47:29 DALE MABRY IS OVER BUT I DON'T HAVE STA SPECIFICS.
18:47:33 THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE IS $20,000 PER STUDENT JUST FOR
18:47:33 THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
18:47:36 I ASSUME IT IS MORE BECAUSE THIS IS FOR CAPITAL
18:47:37 IMPROVEMENT.
18:47:39 I ASSUME IT IS MORE FOR THE MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL.
18:47:43 I SEE NOTHING IN HERE WITH THEM PAYING THEIR
18:47:47 PROPORTIONATE SHARE SINCE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS
18:47:51 OVERCAPACITY AND THE ADDITIONAL SITUATION PAYING THE
18:47:53 PROPORTION THAT THE SHARE.
18:47:56 I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT PLANT HIGH SCHOOL
18:47:59 IS SO OVERCAPACITY, YOU RECENTLY HAD A REZONING FROM
18:48:02 BEACH PARK AND AN AREA IN BEACH PARK THAT HAS ALWAYS
18:48:04 BEEN INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
18:48:05 AND CONVERTING TO RESIDENTIAL.
18:48:08 SO BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THE SCHOOLS WERE OVER
18:48:12 CAPACITY, THEY WENT AHEAD AND ZONED THE AREA OUT OF THE
18:48:14 PLANT DISTRICT INTO THE JEFFERSON DISTRICT WHICH HAS
18:48:18 ROOM IN IT.
18:48:22 THIS IS NOT AN INDUSTRIAL AREA WHERE YOU CAN JUST
18:48:25 PREEMPTIVELY LET PEOPLE KNOW AHEAD OF TIME WHAT
18:48:26 DISTRICT THEY ARE GOING IN.
18:48:29 THIS IS IN MIDDLE OF THE DISTRICT.
18:48:35 IN 2017, PART OF PLANT'S DISTRICT HAD TO BE REDRAWN
18:48:36 BECAUSE OVER CAPACITY.
18:48:38 YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE OVERCAPACITY AGAIN.
18:48:40 I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS AREN'T THE SCHOOL BOARD AND YOU
18:48:42 DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER SCHOOLS BUT YOU HAVE CONTROL
18:48:43 OVER DENSITY.
18:48:46 IF THE DENSITY IS INCREASED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCHOOL
18:48:50 DISTRICT, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REDRAW THEIR LINES.
18:48:52 THEY ARE ALREADY OVER CAPACITY.
18:48:54 THAT SAME BEACH PARK REZONING, YOU HEARD TWO STUDENTS
18:48:57 FROM PLANT HIGH SCHOOL TALK ABOUT HOW THEY ARE NOT --
18:49:00 THERE IS NOT ENOUGH ROOM IN THE CAFETERIA FOR THE
18:49:02 DIFFERENT LUNCH SHIFTS.
18:49:04 WHEN THEY GO TO LUNCH, THEY HAVE TO FIND SOME PLACE TO
18:49:07 SIT ON THE LAWN, OUTSIDE THE CAFETERIA.
18:49:11 THEY CAN'T EVEN GET THEM ALL IN THE CAFETERIA.
18:49:16 IF YOU CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE DENSITY FOR THE SCHOOL
18:49:18 DISTRICTS THEY WILL HAVE TO REDRAW THE LINES.
18:49:23 IF YOU PLAN ON DOING THAT I SUGGEST YOU BRING TORCHES
18:49:27 AND PITCHFORKS BECAUSE THOSE SALES ARE GOING TO GO WAY
18:49:28 UP.
18:49:30 THOSE PEOPLE WILL LOSE THEIR MIND IF THEY GET DRAWN OUT
18:49:31 OF THEIR DISTRICT.
18:49:35 MY SISTER DECIDED SHE WANTED HER KIDS TO GO TO GAITHER
18:49:39 HIGH SCHOOL WHEN THEY WERE IN PRESCHOOL.
18:49:44 THEY BOUGHT A PIECE OF LAND AND BUILT THEIR HOUSE
18:49:47 BECAUSE THEY WANTED THEIR CHILDREN TO GO TO GAITHER
18:49:49 WHILE THEY ARE IN PRESCHOOL.
18:49:51 THE PEOPLE HERE DID THAT.
18:49:52 THEY HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS.
18:49:54 I AM INTERESTED IN THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE.
18:49:57 I THINK THAT IS OVERLOOKED BECAUSE -- EXCUSE ME IT WAS
18:49:58 OVERLOOKED BECAUSE IT IS NEW.
18:50:02 I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE, SECTION
18:50:06 27-11 THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU CREATION OF NEW
18:50:08 LOTS, REDUCTION OF LOTS, BLAH-BLAH-BLAH.
18:50:13 SAYS NO DIVISION OR RECONFIGURATION CHANGING IT FROM
18:50:18 ONE STREET TO ANOTHER MAY OCCUR WHERE -- WHICH IS
18:50:21 PATENTLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING LOT DEVELOPMENT
18:50:25 PATTERN AND A RADIUS OF 1320 FEET, WHICH IS A QUARTER
18:50:26 MILE.
18:50:31 NEW CREATIVE -- MUST MAINTAIN THE FRONT ORIENTATION AND
18:50:36 HISTORICAL PRECEDENT PATTERN OF PARCEL CONFIGURATION IN
18:50:36 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:50:41 LOTS OF RECORD MAY NOT BE RECONFIGURED IN CONFLICT WITH
18:50:42 THE ESTABLISHED PATTERN OF LOTS.
18:50:47 SO IT IS SAYING YOU HAVE TO GO OUT 1320 FEET TO
18:50:49 DETERMINE THE PATTERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:50:53 HE TOLD YOU.
18:50:57 90% OF THE HOUSES IN THAT DISTRICT ARE BIG LOTS.
18:51:01 NOT LITTLE LOTS.
18:51:04 NOWHERE ON THE PLAN DOES IT SAY BLOCK FACE.
18:51:06 IN THIS SAY ES BLOCK FACE IS TWO HOUSES.
18:51:08 YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS TWO HOUSES?
18:51:12 NOWHERE IN THE PLAN -- SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS "BLOCK
18:51:17 FACE" 1390 FEET.
18:51:19 THAT THE PLAN.
18:51:23 IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE ZONING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
18:51:24 CHANGE IT.
18:51:25 PLEASE DON'T DO THIS.
18:51:27 PLEASE DENY THIS.
18:51:27 THANK YOU.
18:51:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
18:51:35 WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE WANTING TO SPEAK.
18:51:41 THANK YOU.
18:51:46 >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL MCNABB, 2404 SOUTH CLARK AVENUE,
18:51:47 TAMPA, 33629.
18:51:50 I'M HERE TO ADDRESS YOU AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE
18:51:51 OPPORTUNITY.
18:51:55 I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE PALMA CEIA WEST NEIGHBORHOOD
18:51:58 ASSOCIATION AND ALSO A RESIDENT THAT IS WITHIN EYESIGHT
18:51:59 OF THIS PROPERTY.
18:52:02 AND I'M HERE TO HELP OUR MEMBERS AND OUR NEIGHBORS.
18:52:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME, I APOLOGIZE, YOU ARE
18:52:07 SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF YOUR ASSOCIATION?
18:52:08 >> YES, SIR.
18:52:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
18:52:11 >> I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THAT ASSOCIATION.
18:52:14 I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AND USE YOUR TIME AND MY TIME
18:52:17 FOR WHAT I PUT IN THE RECORD IN MY LETTER TO YOU.
18:52:20 I THINK IT IS PRETTY EXPLANATORY WHAT OUR FEELING IS
18:52:22 ABOUT THIS LOT SPLITTING.
18:52:26 I DID WANT TO COME HERE AND SPEAK BECAUSE SOME OF THE
18:52:30 NEIGHBORS I SPOKE TO THAT LIVE ADJACENT DON'T KNOW HOW
18:52:30 TO ZOOM.
18:52:32 SOME OF THEM ARE HERE TO SPEAK.
18:52:36 AND SOME -- ONE LADY ASKED ME IF -- IF SHE WOULD HAVE
18:52:38 TO HAVE A COMPUTER TO ZOOM.
18:52:40 SO, I SAID, YES, YOU WOULD.
18:52:42 SO I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS.
18:52:46 AS YOU KNOW PALMA CEIA WEST IS AN ELDER ESTABLISHED
18:52:55 NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOUTH TAMPA A MIX OF '50S HOMES AND
18:52:56 BRAND-NEW HOME.
18:52:57 WE ARE HAPPY WITH THAT.
18:53:00 IT IS IN THE PLANT DISTRICT AND LAND VALUES ARE IN THE
18:53:02 ROOF OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MOVE INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD
18:53:06 FOR THE SCHOOLS AND OTHER REASONS.
18:53:08 PROPERTIES HAVE BECOME VERY DESIRABLE.
18:53:11 ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS I WAS ABLE TO REACH AND SPOKE TO
18:53:13 ARE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS REZONING.
18:53:16 THEY ARE FINE WITH ONE LARGE HOUSE ON ONE LARGE LOT
18:53:19 LIKE MANY OF OUR HOUSES BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO SPLIT IT
18:53:22 INTO TWO LITTLE LOTS WITH BIG HOUSES ON IT.
18:53:26 THEIR EXPECTATION THAT YOU WILL UPHOLD THE RS-75
18:53:29 REZONING AND ZONE IT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
18:53:31 THIS IS REALLY SIMPLE.
18:53:33 ABOUT SPLITTING ONE LARGE LOT INTO TWO LOTS.
18:53:36 SO TWO ENORMOUS HOUSES CAN BE BUILT ON IT.
18:53:40 EACH HOUSE IS ABOUT 5700 SQUARE FEET, UNDER ROOF.
18:53:43 AND TWO HOUSES THAT WOULD FACE THE TWO STREETS.
18:53:47 I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY HOUSE OF THE 600 IN OUR
18:53:48 NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:53:49 THERE ARE 5700 SQUARE FEET.
18:53:51 I DON'T THINK ANY THAT BIG.
18:53:54 CERTAINLY NOT IN 50 OR 55-FOOT LOTS.
18:53:58 THERE IS MAYBE A DOZEN 50-FOOT LOTS IN THE
18:53:59 NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:54:02 MOSTLY ALONG THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS AND MOST OF THE
18:54:06 LOTS WERE -- ALTHOUGH THEY WERE PLOTTED AS 50 FOOT ARE
18:54:08 MUCH LARGER THAN THAT.
18:54:12 SOME HAVE TWO LOTS.
18:54:14 EIGHT OR TEN HOUSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER
18:54:16 CONSTRUCTION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:54:18 THEY ARE ALL BUILT ON LARGER LOTS THAT PEOPLE BOUGHT.
18:54:24 AND NONE OF THEM RESULTED IN A LOT SPLIT.
18:54:26 THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS.
18:54:28 AND NO HARDSHIP THAT I AM AWARE OF.
18:54:31 THIS IS SIMPLY AN ECONOMIC THING.
18:54:35 I AM JUST HERE TO ASK YOU TO HAVE THEM BUILD ONE LOT
18:54:39 HOUSE ON ONE LOT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE THAT BUYS IN THE
18:54:43 NEIGHBORHOOD AND UPHOLD THE RS-75 REZONING SINCE YOU
18:54:46 ALWAYS HAD SINCE 1978 WHEN IT WAS PUT IN.
18:54:47 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:54:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
18:55:01 >> GOOD EVENING, FRED FARIAS, SOUTH CAMERON.
18:55:05 I OWN THE HOUSE JUST SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED LOT
18:55:11 CONSTRUCTION.
18:55:15 ORIGINALLY THERE WAS ONE HOUSE ON LOT AND IN MY OH OVER
18:55:18 THE YEARS IN THAT HOUSE THERE HAVE BEEN EIGHT TO TEN
18:55:20 PEOPLE COMING AND GOING IN ONE HOUSE.
18:55:23 THERE HAVE BEEN CARS IN AND OUT.
18:55:26 THERE HAS BEEN POLICE ACTIVITY AT THE HOUSE.
18:55:29 IT IS A GOOD-SIZED LOT.
18:55:32 AND I FEEL LIKE ONE GOOD-SIZED HOUSE WILL SUFFICE
18:55:33 THERE.
18:55:43 I DON'T THINK THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COULD WITHSTAND
18:55:46 5700-SQUARE-FOOT HOMES IN THAT LOT, TWO OF THEM.
18:55:50 I OBSERVED ABOUT FOUR BLOCKS DOWN, THEY BUILT A NEW
18:55:52 HOME ON A DECENT-SIZED LOT.
18:55:56 WE NOTICED IN THAT HOME, THERE ARE EIGHT VEHICLES IN
18:55:57 THAT HOME.
18:56:04 THEY MUST BE WORKING AT HOME -- BUT EIGHT VEHICLES.
18:56:08 AND THEY ARE PARKED AYE ALL ALONG THE STREETS ON THEIR
18:56:10 NEIGHBOR TO THEIR EAST.
18:56:13 THEY HAVE -- THE YARD IS ERODED BASE THEY PARK HALF ON
18:56:15 THE STREET AND HALF IN THE YARD.
18:56:22 AND IF YOU LOOK OUT FROM THAT HOUSE, THEIR EIGHT CARS
18:56:25 PARKED TO THE FRONT, RIGHT, AND LEFT.
18:56:29 THEY HAVE TOA TWO-CAR GARAGE, ONE CAR IS IN THE GARAGE,
18:56:29 MAYBE.
18:56:34 I DON'T THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD STAND THE DENSITY
18:56:40 THAT THESE TWO HUGE HOMES WOULD PROVIDE.
18:56:43 NO TELLING HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD LIVE IN A
18:56:46 5700-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE.
18:56:48 COULD BE TWO.
18:56:49 IT COULD BE TEN.
18:56:51 WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST OF THIS LOCATION, IT WAS
18:56:54 REALLY FRIGHTENING TO LIVE THERE AND WATCH WHAT GOES ON
18:56:55 IN AND OUT.
18:56:57 PEOPLE CARS.
18:57:04 REALLY OPPOSED TO THE TWO HOUSES ON THAT ONE LOT.
18:57:08 I THINK ONE HOUSE -- ONE NICE HOUSE ON THAT ONE NICE
18:57:10 LOT WILL BE SUFFICIENT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:57:14 THANK YOU.
18:57:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
18:57:23 >> HI, MY NAME IS CINDY FARIAS, I LIVE ACROSS THE
18:57:25 STREET, SOUTH OF THIS LOT.
18:57:29 I, TOO, AM VERY CONCERNED WHAT IS GOING ON.
18:57:34 I REALLY AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT OF SPLITTING A LOT
18:57:39 BECAUSE IT DOES ADD TWICE AS MUCH POSSIBILITY FOR
18:57:40 INHERITANCE.
18:57:43 EVEN IF F IT WAS A REGULAR SIZED HOUSE.
18:57:46 THESE ARE 5700-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSES.
18:57:50 AS MY HUSBAND SAID, THIS -- THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY
18:57:52 USED TO HAVE ONE HOUSE ON THIS PROPERTY.
18:57:57 AND THERE WERE COMING AND GOINGS OF DOZENS OF PEEL ALL
18:57:58 THE TIME.
18:58:00 MANY TIMES WHERE POLICE HAD TO BE INVOLVED.
18:58:05 AND MY CONCERN IS -- ONE THING I AM NOT IS A PUBLIC
18:58:05 SPEAKER.
18:58:07 SO EXCUSE ME.
18:58:10 I HAVE NOTES.
18:58:13 I MOVED INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT -- YOU DRIVE
18:58:17 INTO IT, AND YOU HAVE A SENSE OF SERENITY.
18:58:20 IT IS A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE FAMILIES CAN WALK
18:58:23 THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR DOGS AND FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE
18:58:24 THERE.
18:58:29 THE DENSITY IS NOT BAD AS YOU FIND IN MANY OTHER AREAS
18:58:30 OF.
18:58:38 I AM CONCERNED THAT SPLITTING A LOT ANY PLACE IN OUR
18:58:42 PALMA CEIA WEST AREA WILL EN I BELIEVE THAT TO BE DONE
18:58:42 AGAIN.
18:58:46 AND ASSUME WE WILL HAVE THAT OVERGROWTH THAT WE ARE
18:58:49 TRYING TO AVOID.
18:58:53 YOU ALL -- EACH AND EVERY ONE OF ARE YOU PLACED IN A
18:58:58 VERY IMPORTANT AND WONDERFUL POSITION PROTECTING THE
18:59:02 NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND I APPRECIATE THE
18:59:04 WORK THAT YOU DO.
18:59:06 WE COME BEFORE YOU YEARS AGO BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING
18:59:09 TO SPLIT THE PROPERTY OTHER ACROSS THE STREET TO THE
18:59:10 WEST OF US.
18:59:12 AND YOU LISTENED.
18:59:15 AND YOU HELD OUR GROUND AND ALLOWED ONLY ONE HOUSE TO
18:59:17 BE BUILT THERE.
18:59:20 I ASK THAT YOU DO THAT AGAIN IN ORDER TO PRESERVE OUR
18:59:24 NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE ENJOY THE COMMUNITY FEEL AND A
18:59:26 SENSE OF SAFETY.
18:59:37 THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
18:59:40 >> HI, I AM A HOMEOWNER.
18:59:41 JOANNE MCNABB.
18:59:45 I LIVE WITHIN FOUR HOUSES OF THE PROPERTY AT 2404
18:59:48 SOUTH CLARK AVENUE OF TAMPA.
18:59:54 I LOOK AT THE VARIANCE ASK FOR 411 SAN CARLOS.
18:59:58 I WAS VERY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
19:00:01 WAS CONSISTENT WITH REGULATIONS AS I WOULD LIKE TO
19:00:03 POINT OUT SOME INCONSISTENCIES.
19:00:07 THIS VARIANCE CANNOT BE CONSISTENT SINCE THERE ARE NO
19:00:08 SPLIT LOTS IN OUR SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:00:11 WE HAVE A ZONING REGULATION AND ALWAYS TRY TO KEEP TO
19:00:13 THAT CONSISTENTLY FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:00:16 ALSO, THIS VARIANCE PROPOSE TODAY CHANGE ORIENTATION ON
19:00:17 ONE OF THE LOTS.
19:00:20 WHICH IS ALSO INCONSISTENT.
19:00:23 SECOND, THERE IS NOTHING CONSISTENT WITH ALLOWING NINE
19:00:27 PARKING SPACES AT THE VARIANCE LOCATION.
19:00:31 NO HOMES OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE PAVED APPROVED
19:00:35 SPARKING SPACES FOR THAT MANY VEHICLES.
19:00:41 EVEN THE COMMERCIAL VENTURES AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DO
19:00:47 NOT HAVE MANY MORE PARKING SPACES THAN THAT DOESN'T
19:00:51 SEEM RIGHT THAT A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS HAVE THAT
19:00:54 MANY PARKING SPACES IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:00:54 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:00:57 THIRD, IT DOESN'T SEEM CONSISTENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD
19:00:59 TO PROVIDE THIS SIZE FOOTPRINT OF TWO STRUCTURES.
19:01:06 NO SQUARE FOOTAGES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LET ALONE TWO
19:01:09 ON THE ONE-SIZED LOTS.
19:01:10 THIS IS SOUTH TAMPA.
19:01:12 WE HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES.
19:01:16 THE LESS PERCOLATING SURFACES WE HAVE, THE MORE
19:01:18 FLOODING WE HAVE.
19:01:21 THE HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE YARDS AND TREES AND
19:01:25 SPLITTING THIS LOT AND REDUCING SETBACKS BY A VARIANCE
19:01:33 DOES NOT ALLOW FOR SIGNIFICANT YARD AT THIS ADDRESS AT
19:01:37 ALL EVERYBODY WANT TO MOVE TO SOUTH TAMPA.
19:01:39 PAT THAT SEE I CAN'T WEST.
19:01:42 THEY COMMENT ON THE TREES, THE BEAUTIFUL BIG YARDS, AND
19:01:45 THEN SOMEONE COMES IN AND TRIES TO DO SOMETHING LIKE
19:01:53 THIS AND TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:01:56 CURE YAWS THAT A GROUP OF A FEW PEOPLE CAN MAKE A
19:01:58 DECISION OF THIS MAGNITUDE THAT AFFECTS A WHOLE
19:01:59 ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:02:02 ONE THAT NONE OF YOU LIVE IN.
19:02:06 I KNOW YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THIS VARIANCE;
19:02:09 HOWEVER, YOU ALSO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO NOT APPROVE IT.
19:02:12 I HOPE YOU CONSIDER ALL THE REGIONS THAT ARE MENTIONED
19:02:15 HERE AND VOTE TO NOT ALLOW THIS VARIANCE TO MOVE
19:02:16 FORWARD.
19:02:16 THANK YOU.
19:02:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
19:02:20 ANY OTHER PERSON IN THE CHAMBER THAT WANTS TO SPEAK TO
19:02:23 THIS AGENDA ITEM?
19:02:34 WE HAVE MISS GRETCHEN CATREN ON THE LINE.
19:02:40 >>CLERK: NO, JUST SCOTT WEAVER AND LARRY MCCANN.
19:02:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WILL WEAVER, ARE YOU HERE?
19:02:45 ARE YOU ONLINE?
19:02:48 >>CLERK: MR. WEAVER IS ONLINE AND HE NEEDS TO UNMUTE
19:02:50 HIMSELF AND TURN ON HIS VIDEO.
19:02:52 >> YES, I'M HERE.
19:02:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I NEED TO SEE YOU ON VIDEO, PLEASE.
19:03:13 YOUR VIDEO IS ON, BUT I CAN'T SEE YOU.
19:03:18 >> IT SAY MY WEB CAMERA IS ON.
19:03:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE YOU ARE.
19:03:23 >> CAN YOU SEE ME?
19:03:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I CAN SEE SOME OF YOU BUT I CAN'T SEE
19:03:26 YOUR FACE.
19:03:29 THERE YOU GO.
19:03:32 PLEASE, PROCEED.
19:03:34 YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
19:03:38 CAN YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
19:03:39 >> YES.
19:03:43 >>CLERK: LAURIE, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
19:03:46 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH,
19:03:48 THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
19:03:51 >> YES, I DO.
19:03:56 >> THANK YOU.
19:03:59 PLEASE PROCEED, SIR.
19:04:02 >> YES, SO I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE REZONING.
19:04:05 WE MOVED TO THE -- TO THE SOUTH TAMPA COMMUNITY BECAUSE
19:04:09 IT IS -- IT IS A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:04:13 AND I AM AGAINST SPLITTING PROPERTY BECAUSE OUR SCHOOLS
19:04:16 ARE OVERCROWDED.
19:04:18 OUR STREETS ARE OVERUSED.
19:04:23 AND MANY OF OUR STREETS INCLUDING MINE ON SAN MIGUEL,
19:04:27 4107 SAN MIGUEL, THEY ARE IN VERY POOR CONDITION AND WE
19:04:31 WANT TO MAINTAIN THE SOUTH TAMPA COMMUNITY.
19:04:35 SO THAT IT IS VERY FAMILY ORIENTED.
19:04:39 I THINK IF -- IF WE SPLIT THIS PROPERTY, THEN, OF
19:04:43 COURSE, MANY PEOPLE TODAY ARE JUST WANTING TO MAKE A
19:04:49 BUCK OFF OF ANY PROPERTY.
19:04:52 ONCE THIS BEGINS IT WILL CONTINUE TO MANY OTHER
19:04:55 PROPERTIES AND EVENTUALLY IT WILL JUST RUIN THE FAMILY
19:05:03 COMMUNITY THAT WE MOVED INTO 11 YEAR AGO AND WHEN
19:05:04 ENJOY.
19:05:06 A TIGHT KNIT COMMUNITY WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
19:05:08 IT IS LIKE A FAMILY ATMOSPHERE.
19:05:12 AND I THINK IF WE SPLIT THIS PROPERTY, THEN IT IS JUST
19:05:16 GOING TO LEAD TO OVERCROWDEDNESS.
19:05:20 IT ALREADY TAKES LONG ENOUGH TO, YOU KNOW, TRAVEL NORTH
19:05:23 ON LOIS AND WESTSHORE AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO
19:05:26 DEFINITELY WORSEN THE COMMUNITY.
19:05:29 AND THESE TWO HOUSES, I MEAN THEY ARE SO LARGE, I THINK
19:05:37 IT IS RIDICULOUS TO HAVE 5700-SQUARE-FOOT TWO HOUSES ON
19:05:40 ONE PROPERTY -- THAT IS CURRENTLY ONE PROPERTY.
19:05:44 I THINK IF JUST -- YOU KNOW, REALITY IS, THERE ARE
19:05:49 GOING TO BE MULTIFAMILY HOMES AND IT WILL JUST LIED TO
19:05:53 NEGATIVE SITUATIONS HERE IN PALMA CEIA WEST.
19:05:54 THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
19:06:01 I THINK YOU HALL MAKE THE BEST DECISION AND THAT REASON
19:06:04 WHERE YES VOTED FOR YOU AND SUPPORT NEW OFFICE.
19:06:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS MCMAHON.
19:06:10 THANK YOU, SIR.
19:06:13 >> MY NAME IS LAURIE MCMAHON.
19:06:17 I LIVE AT 2306 SOUTH CAMERON WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE
19:06:21 4111 WEST CARLOS STREET THAT IS REQUESTING TO BE
19:06:22 REZONED.
19:06:28 AND THE GENTLEMAN REFERENCED OFF-SITE TREE.
19:06:31 I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE THE TREE IN OUR BACK YARD, THAT
19:06:33 WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 35 YEARS.
19:06:38 AND IT IS -- IT IS AN OAK TREE THINK THAT WOULDN'T WANT
19:06:40 TO SEE ANYTHING HAPPEN TO.
19:06:42 AND THEY ALREADY HACKED IT ONCE.
19:06:45 I AM SURE THEY WILL THAT CAN AGAIN ON THEIR SIDE.
19:06:49 I THINK THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD AFFECT THE ROOTS.
19:06:51 I AM OPPOSED TO THE REQUEST.
19:06:54 THIS REQUEST WOULD NOT BE A FIT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:06:58 MY CONCERN IS THIS IS A PERMANENT ZONE CHANGE.
19:07:01 AND THIS CHANGE WILL AFFECT DRAINAGE.
19:07:03 FLOODING IS A CONCERN.
19:07:08 WE HAVE THE CREEK WHICH IS JUST ONE BLOCK UP WHICH THE
19:07:10 CITY HAS SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO HELP WITH THE FLOODING
19:07:13 FROM WEST SHORE.
19:07:16 AND IF WE CAN JUST PUT A WHOLE BUNCH MORE CON SECRETE
19:07:20 INTO THAT GREEN SPACE, THAT DEFINITELY IS GOING TO MAKE
19:07:23 AND EFFECT FOR DRAINAGE AND FLOODING.
19:07:27 I WOULD LIKE TO REPEAT, I AM OPPOSED TO THE CHANGE.
19:07:31 AND IT WOULD NOT BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN
19:07:32 ANY WAY.
19:07:36 I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN.
19:07:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
19:07:39 NO ONE ELSE ONLINE?
19:07:40 >>CLERK: NO.
19:07:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
19:07:42 PETITIONER.
19:07:46 YOUR TIME FOR REBUTTAL, IF YOU HAVE ANY.
19:07:48 >> OKAY, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
19:07:51 I WANT TO FIRST START BY SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, I DO
19:07:56 UNDERSTAND -- I TRULY EMPATHIZE WITH ANYONE'S CONCERNS
19:08:01 ABOUT WHAT I HEARD MENTION ABOUT A SENSE OF SAFETY.
19:08:08 I HAVE HEARD MENTION OF FAMILY COMMUNITY.
19:08:10 I HEARD A LOT OF THINGS THAT -- I EVEN HEARD FLOODING
19:08:12 AS A CONCERN.
19:08:15 I THINK THAT PROBABLY ALL OF SOUTH TAMPA QUALIFIES FOR
19:08:16 THAT.
19:08:22 SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS ALWAYS GOOD THING, IN MY OPINION,
19:08:27 TO EMMA PA THESE WITH US AS A COMMUNITY.
19:08:31 AND SEEK TO OFFER SOME SENSE OF UNDERSTANDING.
19:08:35 SO I WANT TO ADDRESS THE FACT WHAT WAS SAID ABOUT THE
19:08:40 PROPERTY AND HOW IT WAS CONDUCTED PRIOR TO NOW.
19:08:43 WELL, THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN RENTAL FOR A WHILE.
19:08:47 THE OWNER HAS RENTED THAT PROPERTY.
19:08:53 SO AT THIS TIME, THESE TYPE OF HOMES ARE NOT AS IT WAS
19:08:59 INFERRED BY SOMEONE GOING TO BECOME MULTIFAMILY HOMES.
19:09:03 THEY ARE NOT BUILDING MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOMES TO RENT
19:09:07 OUT OR HAVE MULTIPLE FOLKS LIVE IN THEM.
19:09:09 THIS IS THEIR FAMILY HOME.
19:09:11 THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO OWN HOMES IN THIS COMMUNITY
19:09:12 ALREADY.
19:09:15 THEY ARE ALREADY RESIDENTS IN OTHER PLACES.
19:09:18 THEY ARE LOOKING TO COME BACK AND LIVE ON THEIR
19:09:19 PROPERTY IN NICE HOMES.
19:09:24 JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER NICE HOMES IN THE AREA.
19:09:26 AND, YES, THEY ARE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.
19:09:28 THESE PROPERTY OWNERS.
19:09:29 THEY HAVE FAMILIES.
19:09:31 AND THEY ARE A FAMILY.
19:09:36 WHEN IT COMES TO SCHOOLS, AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT A
19:09:41 SCHOOL IMPACT AND PROBABLY NOT YOUR JURISDICTION, BUT
19:09:43 THEY ARE PART OF THAT COMMUNITY.
19:09:47 THEIR CHILDREN GO TO SCHOOLS, PRIVATE SCHOOLS, ACADEMY
19:09:51 OF HOLY NAMES AND OTHER SCHOOLINGS.
19:09:55 AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE SAME CONCERNS THAT EVERYONE WHO
19:09:57 HAS EXPRESSED CONCERNS.
19:10:02 BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.
19:10:08 AS IT PERTAINS TO THE ASSERTION THAT THERE IS A LOT
19:10:10 SPLIT THAT IS EXTRAORDINARY.
19:10:18 WELL, THE ACTUAL PROPERTY WHEN YOU GO TO THE PROPERTY
19:10:21 APPRAISAL OFFICE SHOWS THE LINE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO
19:10:24 RE-ESTABLISH THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
19:10:28 IN FACT, THIS IS LOT SEVEN AND LOT TEN.
19:10:36 THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN PLOTTED I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AND
19:10:37 THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
19:10:39 THEY ARE NOT CREATING NEW LOTS.
19:10:42 WE ARE TRYING TO CLAIM WHAT ALREADY WAS.
19:10:44 AND FOR EVEN FURTHER EVIDENCE OF --
19:10:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LOT SEVEN AND TEN?
19:10:49 >> LOT SEVEN AND TEN ARE THE TWO LOTS THAT WE ARE
19:10:49 SPEAKING OF.
19:10:52 ONLY RE-ESTABLISHING THE ORIGINAL LOTS.
19:10:54 IT IS RIGHT ON SURVEY.
19:11:01 AND ALSO AS FURTHER EVIDENCE, DIRECTLY ADJACENT ON THE
19:11:09 PROPERTY LINE TO THE EAST THE EXACT VERBATIM
19:11:12 DEVELOPMENT EXISTS.
19:11:15 ONE WAS BUILT 2019 ON THE CORNER, HAVE TWO ACCESSES
19:11:18 JUST LIKE WE ARE PROPOSING.
19:11:20 ONE ACCESS TO ONE ROADWAY AND ANOTHER ACCESS TO THE
19:11:23 OTHER WHICH MOST PEOPLE WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A
19:11:23 CORNER LOT.
19:11:24 SAME WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
19:11:27 HOW DID WE COME UP WITH NINE SPACES.
19:11:28 YOU HAVE TWO IN THE GARAGE.
19:11:30 TWO PARKED IN THE FRONT.
19:11:30 THAT IS FOUR.
19:11:33 TIMES TWO, THAT IS EIGHT.
19:11:36 AND FOR THE BIG FRONTAGE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE PUT A
19:11:38 CIRCULAR DRIVE.
19:11:41 JUST BECAUSE IT IS WIDE.
19:11:48 STANDARD CORNER LOT DEVELOPMENT.
19:11:51 SO THE ONE HAS BEEN DEVELOPED ON THE CORNER DIRECTLY
19:11:54 NEXT DOOR AND ONE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WE SPEAK.
19:12:03 SO THIS IS NOT SOME OLD IDEA OR SOME RADICAL IDEA.
19:12:06 THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW APPROVED BY
19:12:06 THE CITY.
19:12:08 WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR ANY WAIVERS.
19:12:12 OUR FOOTPRINT SITS WITHIN THE SETBACKS WE HAVE TO GO
19:12:16 FOR -- GIVE US CLOSER TO THE ROAD, CLOSER TO THE SIDES.
19:12:17 NOTHING.
19:12:21 WE ARE FOLLOWING WITHIN THE -- THE STANDARD SETBACKS OF
19:12:25 THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS.
19:12:30 THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ALSO, IT'S NOT AS BIG AS THEY SAY
19:12:32 BECAUSE THAT IS TOTAL UNDER ROOF.
19:12:36 SO THAT IS INCLUDING GARAGE, INCLUDED COVERED LANAIS.
19:12:38 THAT IS INCLUDING PORCHES.
19:12:41 THERE ARE OTHER BIG HOUSES IN THE AREA.
19:12:43 IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS A STRETCH.
19:12:44 I UNDERSTAND HOW IT IS.
19:12:46 I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY EFFORTS.
19:12:51 AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT NIMBY MEANS, NOT IN MY BACK YARD.
19:12:53 AND I GET IT, BUT WE ARE A COMMUNITY.
19:12:56 AND WE NEED TO SERVE ALL THE MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY,
19:13:03 NOT JUST THE ONES WHO PROPOSE THAT THEIR VALUES MATTER
19:13:07 MORE THAN A PROPERTY OWNER.
19:13:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
19:13:11 ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
19:13:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: QUESTION FOR STAFF.
19:13:15 ZAIN.
19:13:16 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: YES, SIR?
19:13:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN I LOOK AT -- WHEN I LOOK AT THE
19:13:30 PHOTO, I SEE ON SOUTH CAMERON AND SAN CARLOS, AND LOOK
19:13:38 AT SAN MIGUEL STREET AND SOUTH CLARK.
19:13:42 I LOOK AT THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:13:52 WHEN I LOOK AT AGAIN ON -- I AM GOING ON THE SOUTHEAST
19:13:59 CORNER AND THE -- POSSIBLY NORTH -- NORTH -- SOUTHEAST
19:14:03 CORNER AND NORTHEAST CORNER I SEE THE SAME THING.
19:14:06 AM I LOOKING A SOMETHING DIFFERENT, SIR.
19:14:08 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: NO, SIR.
19:14:11 I WOULD LIKE TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE
19:14:14 COMPATIBILITY MAP AS I AM SHOWING HERE.
19:14:17 THE SUBJECT PARCEL HERE IN RED.
19:14:22 YOU SEE HERE, ANYTHING BLUE AROUND IT OR YELL OR RED IS
19:14:24 50 FEET FOR MORE.
19:14:26 YOU SEE THE COMPATIBILITY.
19:14:29 YOU SEE ACROSS THE STREET YOU HAVE RED.
19:14:33 YOU SEE ACROSS THE STREET RED, YELLOW, OVER 50, 60.
19:14:38 SO -- SO THAT'S A BIG REASON WHY STAFF FOUND IT OVERALL
19:14:41 CONSISTENT TO THE COMPARABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:14:44 YOU HAVE -- THIS IS FROM OUR GIS AND MAPPING TEAM.
19:14:49 THIS IS ACCURATE.
19:14:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE REASON I ASK THAT.
19:14:53 THAT IS WHY I WENT TO THE MAP TO LOOK AT THE
19:14:54 COMPATIBILITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:14:58 LIKE AT THAT, I DON'T -- WHAT I AM SEEING IS WHAT IS
19:15:02 EXISTING ALREADY.
19:15:04 ESPECIALLY ON THAT PARTICULAR BLOCK RIGHT THERE.
19:15:07 ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, WITHIN THAT RADIUS RIGHT THERE.
19:15:12 MORE TO THE EAST THERE, I SEE -- I SEE COMPATIBILITY
19:15:12 THERE.
19:15:18 BUT I LOOK IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT HERE, IT LOOK TO BE
19:15:22 COMPATIBLE.
19:15:28 >> ONE COMPATIBILITY.
19:15:33 AND THIS SUBJECT BLOCK, 50% OF THE LOT ARE 59.9 FEET OR
19:15:34 LESS.
19:15:37 AND OVERALL YOU WILL FIND COMPATIBILITY.
19:15:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:15:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTIONS?
19:15:46 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
19:15:46 >> SECOND.
19:15:48 >>MORRIS MASSEY: ONE THING BEFORE YOU VOTE.
19:15:53 I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT SCHOOL CONCURRENCY IS AT
19:15:56 THE TIME OF THE SITE PERMIT APPROVAL AND NOT REZONING.
19:15:59 NOT SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER AT THIS TIME.
19:16:03 IF THERE IS A PROP SHARE ISSUE, THAT WILL BE DETERMINED
19:16:04 LATER ON.
19:16:04 IN THE PROCESS.
19:16:08 I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
19:16:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
19:16:10 MANISCALCO.
19:16:11 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
19:16:13 ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
19:16:15 OPPOSED.
19:16:16 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
19:16:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO
19:16:20 DENY.
19:16:21 IS THAT RIGHT?
19:16:22 ALL RIGHT.
19:16:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS YOUR PREROGATIVE.
19:16:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
19:16:29 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
19:16:34 I MOVE TO DENY REZ-22-24 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
19:16:41 4111 WEST SAN CARLOS STREET FROM RS-75 TO PD FAILURE OF
19:16:44 THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE
19:16:47 SUBSTANTIAL AND COMPETENT EVIDENCE THAT THE SITE PLAN
19:16:50 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY
19:16:51 CODE.
19:16:55 I SEE FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE GOALS,
19:16:58 OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:17:01 WHILE THE PROPOSED REZONING MAY BE ALLOWED FOR
19:17:03 CONSIDERATION UNDER THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE
19:17:04 CATEGORY AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF CONCLUDED
19:17:07 THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:17:10 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-6
19:17:13 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, I FIND THAT THE PROPOSED
19:17:16 REZONING WILL RESULT IN LOT WIDTHS THAT ARE NOT
19:17:22 APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE SURROUND BE PATTERN OF IN RS-75
19:17:22 ZONING.
19:17:27 FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS
19:17:31 PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE PLAN DOES NOT PROMOTE,
19:17:33 ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION,
19:17:35 CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING
19:17:39 NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PROPOSED USE DOES NOT PROMOTE THE
19:17:41 SUFFICIENT AND SUSTAINABLE USE OF LAND AND
19:17:42 INFRASTRUCTURE.
19:17:47 I SEE THAT MORE THAN 90% -- MORE THAN 60 FEET.
19:17:49 60 FEET FOR MORE.
19:17:51 90% OF THOSE.
19:17:54 AND IN THIS AREA AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO WITH REGARD
19:17:59 TO THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 9.3.8.
19:18:02 THE CITY WILL ASSESS THE POTENTIAL POSITIVE AND
19:18:06 NEGATIVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT
19:18:09 PATTERN AND THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
19:18:14 LAND USE POLICY 9.5.1 TO PRO PROTECT LOW DENSITY
19:18:15 SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS.
19:18:19 9.5.2, MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF SINGLE-FAMILY
19:18:20 RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
19:18:25 AND I WILL ENDS WITH LAND USE POLICY 9.5.4, MAINTAIN
19:18:27 THE CURRENT DENSITY AND CHARACTER OF EXISTING
19:18:30 SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS.
19:18:34 ALREADY MENTIONED THAT 90% PLUS ARE 60 FEET OR MORE
19:18:36 AND I WILL STOP THERE.
19:18:38 THANK YOU.
19:18:38 >> SECOND.
19:18:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SAITH MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
19:18:41 MANISCALCO.
19:18:43 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
19:18:45 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
19:18:46 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
19:18:48 THIS IS ONE I AM VERY TORN ON IN MANY WAYS.
19:18:52 I HEAR THE DISCUSSIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:18:55 AND I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF POINTS THAT ARE VERY
19:18:58 SYMPATHETIC, AND I SAID THAT BEFORE AND I SAID THIS
19:19:00 AGAIN, WHENEVER I LOOK AT APPROVING AND DENYING
19:19:04 SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I ALWAYS SAY THAT WE HAVE A -- A
19:19:07 STOOL AND WE GOT TO SEE WHAT KINDS OF LEGS WILL BE ON
19:19:11 THAT TOOL TO SUPPORT US SITTING ON THAT STOOL.
19:19:14 AND WHEN I SEE THIS, WE HAVE A GOOD REPORT FROM THE
19:19:15 PLANNING COMMISSION.
19:19:21 I BELIEVE -- I DID -- CITY, CONSISTENT, CORRECT?
19:19:21 >> CORRECT.
19:19:23 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
19:19:26 I DIDN'T MEAN TO REOPEN THAT, SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
19:19:27 BUT ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
19:19:31 I -- THERE IS POLICY ISSUES HERE, ETC.
19:19:34 I DON'T SEE THE LEGS ON THAT STOOL.
19:19:38 I -- I WILL HAVE TO VOTE MY CONSCIOUS ON THAT.
19:19:41 I APPRECIATE THE MOTION, BUT I WILL RESPECTFULLY VOTE
19:19:42 NO.
19:19:43 THANK YOU.
19:19:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
19:19:49 GUDES EVERYONE KNOWS I AM NEIGHBORHOOD GUY THROUGH AND
19:19:49 THROUGH.
19:19:52 AND I LOOK AT ALL AVENUES TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF
19:19:53 NEIGHBORHOODS.
19:19:57 AND SOMETIMES I SAY, HEY, I SAY LET THEM SUE US OR
19:19:58 WHATEVER.
19:20:02 BUT ON THIS ONE HERE, WHEN I LOOK AT THE MAP, THE --
19:20:08 THE COMPATIBILITY JUST SHOWS CONSISTENCY OF THE AREA.
19:20:14 I JUST DON'T -- I JUST DON'T SEE HOW I COULD IN GOOD
19:20:17 CONSCIENCE VOTE FOR THE CURRENT MOTION ON THE FLOOR SO
19:20:18 I WILL BE VOTING NO ON THAT.
19:20:21 I CAN'T VOTE IT AT THE TIME.
19:20:25 I SORRY FOR THE NEIGHBORS, BUT AT THIS POINT I CAN'T DO
19:20:25 IT.
19:20:29 >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBERS
19:20:33 VIERA AND GUDES ON THIS JUST BECAUSE OF THE BLOCKINESS.
19:20:36 AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREAS, THERE REALLY
19:20:38 ARE A LOT OF MUCH SMALLER LOTS.
19:20:44 I AM NOT SEEING -- I KNOW IT SAYS RS-57, BUT I AM NOT
19:20:49 -- RS-75, I AM NOT SEEING HOW ANY OF THE LOT FRONTAGE
19:20:51 IS 75.
19:20:54 SO THERE ARE TWO HOUSES BEING BUILT RIGHT BEHIND IT.
19:20:56 I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORS' CONCERNS.
19:21:00 I RULE TO LIE DO.
19:21:05 HAVING MORE DENSITY CAN BE -- THE PROSPECT OF CHANGING
19:21:10 A NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT -- CAN BE SCARY, BUT IN THIS
19:21:15 PARTICULAR BLOCK, THERE -- IT'S -- IT SEEMS PERFECTLY
19:21:21 REASONABLE TO DO THIS.
19:21:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
19:21:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
19:21:28 I HAVE BEEN -- LIKE CORNERED IN A SWAMP, YOU DON'T KNOW
19:21:31 HOW TO GET OUT OR GET IN.
19:21:34 IN LOOKING AT THE MAP AND LOOKING AT THE COLORS AND THE
19:21:37 AMOUNT OF LOTS AND SO FORTH AND I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD
19:21:39 AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THERE 30 TO 40 YEARS AND SOME OF
19:21:42 THEM I KNOW PERSONALLY, BUT THAT IS NOT THE REASON
19:21:45 THAT I SHOULD VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
19:21:47 I HAVE TO VOTE ON WHAT I SEE AND WHAT I HEAR.
19:21:50 AND THIS HAS NO WAIVERS.
19:21:54 THERE ARE -- EVERYTHING IS LIKE THAT ON THAT BLOCK.
19:21:56 JUST THREE LOTS TO THE -- I GUESS TO THE NORTH OF THIS.
19:22:00 AND THE SAME BLOCK ARE ALL IN THE SAME CATEGORY, UNLESS
19:22:02 I AM LOOKING AT THIS THING INCORRECTLY.
19:22:11 SO THESE LOTS THEN ARE GOING TO BE -- LET'S SEE HERE.
19:22:13 5,000 SOME FEET AWAY.
19:22:17 HOW 5700 FEET AWAY AS FAR AS SIZE.
19:22:22 BUT THE LIVING QUARTERS OF IT ARE NOT 5700.
19:22:25 THE GARAGE WILL BE UNDER AS I UNDERSTAND IT WHICH HAS
19:22:28 NOTHING DO WITH THE BEARING OF THE ZONING, BUT IT IS
19:22:32 -- IT IS HARD FOR ME TO VOTE YES WHEN I SEE SO MANY
19:22:39 THINGS HERE THAT -- I AM -- BY WHAT I SEE TO VOTE NO
19:22:42 AGAINST THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
19:22:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION?
19:22:47 MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
19:22:50 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
19:22:51 ROLL CALL VOTE.
19:22:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
19:22:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
19:22:56 >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
19:22:57 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
19:22:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
19:23:03 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
19:23:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
19:23:11 >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH GUDES, MIRANDA, HURTAK,
19:23:17 VIERA AND CITRO VOTING NO.
19:23:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
19:23:23 >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER REZ-22-24 ORDINANCE READING
19:23:27 FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
19:23:31 ORDINANCE REZONING IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4111 WEST
19:23:34 SAN CARLOS STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND MORE
19:23:37 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
19:23:42 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-75, SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD
19:23:44 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED
19:23:46 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
19:23:51 I MOVE THAT THIS ORDINANCE AND DIRECT REVISION SHOWN ON
19:23:54 THE REVISION SHEET BE MADE AS THE APPLICANT HAS MET ITS
19:23:58 BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL
19:24:01 EVIDENCE AS CONDITIONS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS
19:24:05 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE.
19:24:08 I ADOPT THE FINDINGS AND REASONS OF THE PLANNING
19:24:10 COMMISSION AND THE CITY STAFF REPORTS.
19:24:14 BASE TOED ON COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FOUND
19:24:16 IN STAFF REPORTS, IN COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE GOALS
19:24:21 AND OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
19:24:23 THAT ALLOW FOR COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA
19:24:26 PLANNED FOR A DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF UP TO SIX IS
19:24:29 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE
19:24:35 POLICIES 9.388, 5.1 AND 5.3.
19:24:37 THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE
19:24:40 POLICY 9.2.1.
19:24:44 AND HOUSING POLICY 1.3.4 WHICH ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING
19:24:48 ON VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO ENSURE THAT AN
19:24:50 ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IS AVAILABLE TO MEET THE
19:24:53 NEEDS OF COMPANY'S PRESENT AND FUTURE POPULATIONS AND
19:24:57 IN COMPLIANCE WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 27-136.
19:25:00 PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN PROMOTES
19:25:02 AND ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN
19:25:05 LOCATION, CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE
19:25:06 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:25:09 PROPOSED USE PROMOTES THE SUSTAINABLE USE OF LAND AND
19:25:12 INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SEEK NO
19:25:13 WAIVERS.
19:25:22 AND ALTHOUGH THE LOT WIDTHS WILL EACH BE 48 FEET -- 55
19:25:31 FEET, THIS DOMINUS REDUCTION IN LOT WIDTH WILL NOT HAVE
19:25:33 AN IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:25:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
19:25:37 AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
19:25:38 ANY DISCUSSION?
19:25:39 ROLL CALL VOTE.
19:25:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
19:25:42 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
19:25:44 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
19:25:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
19:25:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
19:25:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
19:25:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
19:25:51 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND MANISCALCO
19:25:55 VOTING NO OPINION SECOND READING AND ADOPTION JULY 14,
19:26:00 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
19:26:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, SU 2-22-01.
19:26:09 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:26:11 ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
19:26:17 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, CASE SU 2-22-01 PRESENTED FOR
19:26:18 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
19:26:23 THIS IS SPECIAL USE 2 PERMIT FOR A DAY CARE IN A RS-60,
19:26:26 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT AT THE
19:26:32 LOCATION 4302 W. EUCLID AVENUE AND 4221 BAY VILLA
19:26:33 AVENUE.
19:26:37 I WILL PASS IT ALONG TO SAM THOMAS WITH THE PLANNING
19:26:39 COMMISSION.
19:26:44 >> SAM THOMAS: FOOD EVENING SAM THOMAS WITH YOUR
19:26:45 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
19:26:48 THIS IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT
19:26:53 AND MORE SPECIFICALLY FAIR OAKS, MANHATTAN MANOR
19:26:54 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:26:57 TRANSIT SPOT IS ONE BLOCK WEST.
19:27:03 AND THE RECREATIONAL IS ONE MILE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT
19:27:08 SITE AND IN A LEVEL A EVACUATION ZONE.
19:27:11 HERE IS THE AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:27:16 THE AREA ALONG HENDERSON BOULEVARD OR SOUTH MANHATTAN
19:27:19 AVENUE OVER HERE IS MAINLY COMMERCIAL IN CHARACTER.
19:27:21 YOU MOVE TO THE EAST AND NORTH, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
19:27:23 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
19:27:25 TO THE SOUTH HERE, YOU HAVE THE MANISCALCO CENTER WHICH
19:27:31 IS SUPPOSED TO BE CONVERTED INTO A NEW MAGNATE SCHOOL
19:27:34 AND OVER HERE THE JAN PLATT PUBLIC LIBRARY.
19:27:37 HERE IS A MAP OF THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE.
19:27:42 THE SITE IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE R-10 DESIGNATION AND
19:27:46 THE PRIMARY AREA IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE R-10
19:27:48 DESIGNATION.
19:27:51 COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 IS ALONG THE MANHATTAN CORRIDOR
19:27:56 AND SOUTH TO THE BLUE IS THE SCHOOL THAT I PREVIOUSLY
19:27:59 MENTIONED THAT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED.
19:28:03 THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO EXPAND AN EXISTING DAY CARE
19:28:10 OF A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTS WITHIN THE AREA.
19:28:14 THE REQUEST IS BELOW THE F.A.R. ALLOWED UNDER THE
19:28:16 RESIDENTIAL-10 DESIGNATION.
19:28:18 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND
19:28:21 FOUND THE EXPANSION OF THE PROPOSED DAY CARE COMPATIBLE
19:28:23 WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:28:25 THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING A SIDEWALK CONNECTION WHICH
19:28:28 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:28:31 AND ADDITIONALLY THERE IS -- THERE ARE -- ADDITIONALLY
19:28:34 THERE ARE COMPATIBLE SURROUNDING PUBLIC USES NEARBY THE
19:28:35 SUBJECT SITE.
19:28:44 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROMOTES CO-LOW SUPPORT THE AREA
19:28:49 AND FOR THE FAIR OAKS AND MANHATTAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:28:50 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
19:28:52 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
19:28:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY YES, SIR?
19:28:55 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU, SAM.
19:28:57 ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
19:29:00 SU 2-22-01.
19:29:02 NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED.
19:29:07 I WILL GO AHEAD AND SHARE THE SITE PLAN.
19:29:11 ZOOM IN FOR YOU.
19:29:16 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE EXISTING DAY CARE AND RESIDENTIAL
19:29:26 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME HERE TO THE SOUTH.
19:29:29 THE REQUEST IS FOR A DAY CARE USE.
19:29:32 PROPERTY CONTAINS A TOTAL LOT AREA OF APPROXIMATELY
19:29:39 43,496 SQUARE FEET OR .99 ACRES.
19:29:42 CURRENTLY HAS THAT DAY CARE ON THE TOP.
19:29:44 AND RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE SOUTH.
19:29:50 THIS WAS APPROVED UNDER SU 2-17-15.
19:29:56 THE TOTAL BUILDING AREA IS 8083 SQUARE FEET.
19:30:01 THERE WILL BE AN ESTIMATED 150 TO 190 STUDENTS AT THE
19:30:01 DAY CARE.
19:30:06 ACCESS TO THE SITE COMES FROM HUBERT AVENUE AND WEST
19:30:07 BAY VILLA AVENUE.
19:30:12 PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE 25 FEET IN THE FRONT, SEVEN ON
19:30:16 THE SIDES, AND 20 ON THE REAR.
19:30:23 I WILL GO SHARE MY AERIAL.
19:30:27 AS YOU SEE THE SITE OUTLINED HERE IN RED.
19:30:29 TO THE NORTH, YOU WILL HAVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
19:30:32 USE ZONED RS-60.
19:30:35 TO THE WEST THE JAN PLATT LIBRARY.
19:30:40 AND ALSO YOU HAVE CG ZONING NORTH AND SOUTH ALONG SOUTH
19:30:43 MANHATTAN AVENUE AS I WILL SHOW YOU PICTURES IN A FEW
19:30:44 MINUTES.
19:30:46 TO THE EAST, YOU HAVE MORE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
19:30:48 USES ZONED RS-60.
19:30:53 AND TO THE SOUTH, QUITE RECENTLY, THROUGH CITY COUNCIL,
19:30:56 APPROVED TO BE A SCHOOL TO THE SOUTH.
19:31:02 AS I WILL SHOW NEW PICTURES TO COME.
19:31:07 THE PROPOSED REQUEST 13 PARKING SPACES AND TOTAL OF 18
19:31:10 PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED.
19:31:13 MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 25 FEET IN HEIGHT.
19:31:16 FUTURE LAND USE IS R-10 AND THE PROPERTY IS IN THE
19:31:19 SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
19:31:22 I WILL NOW SHARE THE ELEVATIONS PROVIDED BY THE
19:31:32 APPLICANT.
19:31:34 ALL RIGHT.
19:31:37 AS YOU WILL SEE THE NORTH BAY VILLA ELEVATION.
19:31:39 YOU SEE THE SOUTHEASTERN ELEVATION.
19:31:41 MOVE ALONG TO THE SIDE HERE.
19:31:44 YOU WILL SEE SOUTHEASTERN ELEVATION THAT GIVES YOU A
19:31:53 GOOD IDEA OF THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOME FROM
19:31:53 EUCLID.
19:31:55 YOU CAN SEE THE DAY CARE.
19:31:58 FROM THE EASTERN PORTION OF EUCLID AND THE EASTERN
19:32:01 ELEVATION LITTLE BETTER OF THE DAY CARE AND THE
19:32:03 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AND THE WESTERN
19:32:10 ELEVATION ALSO FROM EUCLID.
19:32:19 I WENT TO THE SITE.
19:32:21 AND THE PICTURES I TOOK.
19:32:24 FROM THE WEST SIDE, THE DAY CARE EXISTING.
19:32:29 ACROSS THE STREET, YOU WILL SEE THOSE RESIDENTIAL
19:32:32 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES WE TALKED ABOUT TO THE NORTH.
19:32:38 IF YOU GO OUT TO MANHATTAN, YOU WILL RUN UPON MULTIPLE
19:32:43 COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH.
19:32:48 AND ALSO YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT
19:32:58 DAIRY JOY RUNNING ON MANHATTAN.
19:33:03 TO THE SOUTHWEST, THE JAN PLATT LIBRARY AND PREP
19:33:16 ACADEMY FACILITY.
19:33:18 ANOTHER VIEW FROM THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE FROM
19:33:28 THE CURRENT DAY CARE.
19:33:29 EASTERN POURING.
19:33:31 YOU WILL SEE FROM THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE MORE
19:33:42 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
19:33:46 IF YOU GO TO THE SOUTHWEST SIDE YOU WILL SEE IS THE
19:33:49 SCHOOL THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED SOUTH OF THE DAY
19:33:54 CARE.
19:33:57 SOUTH HAS FOUND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND
19:34:01 DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE STAFF REPORT AND THE SHEET AND
19:34:03 APPROVE TO CITY COUNCIL.
19:34:07 AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
19:34:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS.
19:34:11 I HAVE ONE.
19:34:11 >> YES, SIR.
19:34:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU PUT THE -- THE PICTURE OF THE
19:34:23 FRONTAGE OF THE BUILDING THAT IS THERE.
19:34:31 I THINK IT WAS YOUR LAST PHOTO.
19:34:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, I CANNOT GIVE EVIDENCE, SO I AM
19:34:35 GOING TO ASK YOU.
19:34:39 IS THAT BUSINESS THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE --
19:34:42 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THIS IS THE CURRENT DAY CARE AT THIS
19:34:42 TIME.
19:34:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
19:34:51 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU.
19:34:52 ANY QUESTIONS?
19:34:56 THANK YOU, BLAH MR. HUSSEIN.
19:35:00 PETITIONER, AT THIS MOMENT, WE -- I SEE SOME PEOPLE
19:35:06 THAT ARE ONLINE THAT ARE ALSO -- SOME OF THEM ARE LEGAL
19:35:08 ADVISORS.
19:35:11 WILL THEY BE GIVEN ANY TESTIMONY?
19:35:14 >>CLERK: ONLY PEOPLE SPEAKING.
19:35:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S JUST SAY TYLER HUDSON.
19:35:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DO NEED YOU AND WHOEVER YOU ARE
19:35:23 GOING TO REPRESENT TO BE SWORN IN.
19:35:28 >> I WAS SWORN IN AT THE BEGINNING.
19:35:31 >> HE IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
19:35:34 A CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.
19:35:36 [SWEARING IN]
19:35:37 >> I DO.
19:35:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
19:35:41 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
19:35:45 ALEX SCHALER, 401 ASHLEY DRIVE.
19:35:46 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
19:35:49 CCTV WILL PULL UP THE POWERPOINT.
19:35:53 SPECIAL USE APPLICATION FOR DAY CARE.
19:35:55 ZAIN SET UP THIS VERY WELL.
19:35:59 SOUTHEAST CORNER OF MANHATTAN AND EUCLID AVENUE.
19:36:00 THE SITE IS OUTLINED IN RED.
19:36:02 A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE SITE.
19:36:08 THE 4302 W. EUCLID AS ZAIN JUST SHOWED YOU THE
19:36:08 PICTURES.
19:36:12 THAT IS CURRENTLY OPERATING AT A DAY CARE APPROVED BACK
19:36:15 IN 2017.
19:36:18 THE APPLICANT HAS ACQUIRED THE PARCEL COURT WHERE LINED
19:36:20 IN YELLOW CURRENTLY A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AND EXPANDING
19:36:23 THE DAY CARE TO INCLUDE THAT HOME THAT WILL BE INTERIOR
19:36:26 RENOVATIONS ONLY DONE THROUGH A BUILDING PERMIT, BUT
19:36:29 THAT IS THE EXPANDED AREA WHICH IS JUST DIRECTLY SOUTH
19:36:30 OF THE SITE.
19:36:33 SO THIS WAS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED UNDER THE
19:36:36 ORIGINAL SPECIAL USE APPROVAL FOR CURRENT DAY CARE.
19:36:39 THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED AREA IS WHERE THE EXPANSION WILL
19:36:45 BE WITH THAT SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
19:36:48 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THIS CONSISTENT AND
19:36:51 CITY PLANNING STAFF FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE EXCEPTION
19:36:56 OF FIRE, WHICH WE WILL GO INTO ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
19:37:00 WE IMMEDIATELY SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION WITH THE WEST
19:37:05 BAY VILLA OPEN, THAT HAS BEEN CLOSED BECAUSE OF
19:37:06 TRAPPING STAFF.
19:37:09 WE WANTED ANOTHER OPTION FOR FIRE STAFF TO ENTER, AND
19:37:13 SHOWN GENERATED IN THE EXHIBIT UPLOADED IN ACELA,
19:37:15 CONFIRM BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND TRANSPORTATION STAFF
19:37:19 THAT THIS CAN BE ADDRESSED THAT ADDING A GATE FOR THE
19:37:21 LOCK BOX FOR FIRE ACCESS ONLY.
19:37:23 IT WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
19:37:25 THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
19:37:28 IT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND AVAILABLE FOR ANY
19:37:30 QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
19:37:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
19:37:33 I HAVE ONE VERY QUICK ONE.
19:37:34 >> OF COURSE.
19:37:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU PUT UP YOUR SITE PLAN WITH
19:37:43 PARKING AND THE EGRESS.
19:37:47 >> I CAN PUT ON HERE TOO.
19:37:51 MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ.
19:37:54 IF YOU PLEASE, MAKE SURE IF I AM OKAY WITH ASKING SOME
19:38:03 OF THESE QUESTIONS.
19:38:06 I WAS LOOKING FOR THE OTHER ONE BUT I WILL ACCEPT THIS
19:38:06 ONE.
19:38:09 HOW MANY CHILDREN WILL -- BECAUSE THE PICTURE SAYS IT
19:38:22 IS A DAY CARE -- EXCUSE ME, A CHILD CARE CENTER.
19:38:25 HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE IN THE THIS CHILD CARE.
19:38:27 >> APPROVED FOR 98.
19:38:29 CURRENTLY 95 STUDENT.
19:38:33 WITH THIS PROPOSAL, THE SITE PLAN GIVES THEM 150 TO 190
19:38:38 RANGE OF STUDENT AND RANGE FROM AGE RANGE AND
19:38:42 SUPERVISION RATIO.
19:38:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEN IF I MAY ASK TRANSPORTATION,
19:38:45 PLEASE.
19:38:47 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION AND PLANNING.
19:38:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HYPOTHETICALLY 150 CHILDREN AT THIS
19:38:53 CHILD CARE CENTER.
19:38:59 HYPOTHETICALLY 150 CARS DURING DROP-OFF AN PICK UP.
19:39:04 WITH THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT, IS THERE ENOUGH FOR A QUEUE
19:39:09 FOR PARENTS OR GUARDIANS TO BE DROPPING OFF CHILDREN
19:39:14 THERE?
19:39:17 >> JONATHAN: THAT --
19:39:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DIDN'T FINISH.
19:39:20 I SHOULD HAVE.
19:39:25 WITHOUT BLOCKING THE STREETS -- BOTH EUCLID AND BAY
19:39:27 VILLA?
19:39:28 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
19:39:29 WE HAD LOOKED AT THAT.
19:39:33 WE DON'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR THE QUEUE LANES, BUT,
19:39:36 IF I RECALL FROM THE PREVIOUS -- WHEN THIS WAS
19:39:39 PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, THAT WAS ALL BROUGHT UP IN
19:39:42 DISCUSSION AND THE DROP-OFF AND PICK-UP TIMES AREN'T
19:39:43 ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
19:39:46 THEY KIND OF STAGGER ALL THESE AND IT HAVEN'T BEEN
19:39:51 ADDRESSED -- WE DON'T FORESEE IT AS BEING A PROBLEM THE
19:39:52 WAY IT IS DESIGNED.
19:39:55 I THINK IT IS PRETTY GOOD ACTUALLY.
19:39:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
19:39:59 AND, PLEASE, I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTIONING.
19:40:03 THERE ARE BUSINESSES AROUND THE CITY WHERE DRIVEWAYS
19:40:04 GET BLOCKED.
19:40:09 THERE ARE STREETS THAT GET BLOCKED BECAUSE OF QUEUES.
19:40:12 FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES OF CHILD CARE SCHOOLS AND WHAT
19:40:12 NOT.
19:40:14 AND THAT WAS MY CONCERN.
19:40:19 ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
19:40:26 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?
19:40:28 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE.
19:40:31 >>CLERK: YES, WE DO.
19:40:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE, GO AHEAD.
19:40:34 TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
19:40:39 >> CAN YOU SEE ME NOW?
19:40:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
19:40:41 >>CLERK: [SWEARING IN]
19:40:43 >> I DO.
19:40:47 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
19:40:47 [INAUDIBLE]
19:40:55 3806 SOUTH HUBERT AVENUE AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK AND TO
19:40:56 OBJECT.
19:41:00 I AM THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY EAST OF THE EXISTING AND
19:41:03 PROPOSED.
19:41:09 AND I WILL START -- AM I LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES?
19:41:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, THREE.
19:41:11 >> OKAY.
19:41:13 SO I HAVE GOT A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND ISSUES.
19:41:16 AND SO I WILL SPLIT THEM UP.
19:41:18 SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW LONG THIS PROPOSED
19:41:20 CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO TAKE.
19:41:24 NUMBER TWO, IS IT GOING TO BE CARRIED OUT BY CERTIFIED
19:41:26 CONTRACTORS?
19:41:28 LAST TIME THEY WENT THROUGH THIS PROJECT, THE EXISTING
19:41:31 PROJECT, IT TOOK WAY TOO LONG.
19:41:34 IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE USING FOLKS WHO WERE NOT
19:41:39 CERTIFIED CONTRACTORS.
19:41:42 WE HAD FOLKS LIVING ON THE SITE AS THEY WERE DEVELOPING
19:41:43 IT IN CAMPERS.
19:41:47 THEY LOOKED LIKE STREET PEOPLE.
19:41:49 THEY WERE PARKED IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, CAUSING TRAFFIC
19:41:52 ISSUES GETTING IN AND OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY.
19:41:54 BACKING OUT I COULD NOT SEE.
19:41:59 I HAD TO DRAG MY TRASH CAN TO BAY VILLA AND EUCLID
19:42:03 AVENUE TO HAVE IT REMOVED BECAUSE OF THE CARS.
19:42:08 WE ALSO HAD PEOPLE LUNCHING IN THE SHADE IN FRONT OF MY
19:42:11 PROPERTY WHERE THEY WOULD LEAVE THEIR LUNCH TRASH AND
19:42:16 SHOES AND SNEAKERS AND SOCKS THAT GOT WET IN THE
19:42:19 WEATHER THAT I WOULD HAVE TO PICK UP AND I ENJOYED THAT
19:42:23 DURING COVID -- DID NOT ENJOY THAT DURING COVID.
19:42:25 LET'S SEE.
19:42:26 WHAT ELSE IS THERE.
19:42:29 ALSO, WE HAVE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM ALREADY AS IT STANDS
19:42:31 WHERE PEOPLE GET IN AND OUT.
19:42:32 IN AND OUT.
19:42:37 WE ALSO HAVE A FLOOD, STANDING WATER ISSUE IN THE
19:42:41 HUBERT AVENUE WHERE THE WATER DOES NOT FLOW AWAY FAST
19:42:49 ENOUGH WITH THE ONCOMING DRENCHING OF WATER.
19:42:50 EXPANDING IT AND MORE TRAFFIC.
19:42:55 AT THE MOMENT WHEN IT RAINS, THE WATER IS UP AGAINST MY
19:42:55 FRONT DOOR.
19:42:58 SO WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING THROUGH WHO DON'T WANT TO SLOW
19:42:59 DOWN.
19:43:02 AND OF COURSE WITH THE WAVE, IT MAKES IT COME IN UNDER
19:43:04 MY FRONT DOOR.
19:43:05 WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE?
19:43:08 OKAY, WE HAVE THE PEOPLE LIVING ON-SITE DURING THE LAST
19:43:11 CONSTRUCTION USING MY TRASH CAN AND FILLING IT UP WITH
19:43:13 THEIR TRASH.
19:43:15 WHEN I FIND OUT THE CITY AND COMPLAINED.
19:43:17 I SAID THEY ARE LIVING ON THE SITE WITH A CAMPER.
19:43:20 THEY SAID IT IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT.
19:43:21 THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT.
19:43:25 SO THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FLY EITHER.
19:43:31 I'M HERE TO VEHEMENTLY RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT IS
19:43:32 GOING ON IN THIS CORNER HERE.
19:43:35 BECAUSE WHAT IS GOING ON IS WAY TOO MUCH FOR THE
19:43:35 CORNER.
19:43:39 THEY ALREADY HAVE TOO MUCH CUT-THRU TRAFFIC FOR THOSE
19:43:42 FOLKS THAT DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE LIGHT AT EUCLID AND
19:43:43 HENDERSON AVENUE.
19:43:46 THEY ARE CUTTING THROUGH MY HOUSE AND GO TO THE
19:43:46 LIBRARY.
19:43:50 CUTTING THROUGH TO GO TO THE WORKOUT CENTER, SOUTH OF
19:43:51 MY HOUSE.
19:43:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:43:58 THANK YOU.
19:44:00 ANYONE ELSE?
19:44:04 YOUR REBUTTAL TIME.
19:44:04 >> THANK YOU.
19:44:07 I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT A BUILDING PERMIT HAS TO BE
19:44:09 PULLED BY A LICENSE CONTRACTOR.
19:44:13 SO THAT WILL BE ENSURED WHENEVER THEY SUBMIT FOR THE
19:44:14 BUILDING PERMIT.
19:44:17 INTERIOR RENOVATION ONLY.
19:44:19 NOT A TON OF SITE WORK.
19:44:23 AND DRAINAGE IS ACTUALLY A CONCERN THEY HANDLE WITH
19:44:25 PERIMETER AND SITE DESIGN.
19:44:31 THAT'S IT.
19:44:33 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
19:44:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
19:44:36 MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
19:44:38 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
19:44:40 ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
19:44:43 ANY OPPOSED?
19:44:44 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
19:44:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 22-01.
19:44:49 ORDER MAN IN FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
19:44:53 ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR APPROVAL
19:44:56 OF A DAY CARE IN RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING
19:45:02 DISTRICT 430 W. EUCLID AND 4201 BAY VILLA AVENUE IN THE
19:45:05 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AND
19:45:08 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
19:45:11 ORDINANCE OF DIRECT REVISION SHOWN ON THE REVISION
19:45:15 SHEET BE MADE AS THE APPLICANT HAS MET ITS BURDEN OF
19:45:18 PROOF FOR COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE
19:45:23 EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING DAY DARE FACILITY IS
19:45:26 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE.
19:45:30 THE EXPANSION OF THE DAY CARE LOCATED IN THE FUTURE
19:45:34 LAND USE DESIGNATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES.
19:45:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
19:45:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
19:45:39 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
19:45:42 ANY FURTHER DISCUSS?
19:45:43 ROLL CALL VOTE.
19:45:44 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
19:45:46 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
19:45:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
19:45:48 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
19:45:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
19:45:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
19:45:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
19:45:55 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
19:45:58 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD JULY 14, 2022
19:46:00 AT 9:30 A.M.
19:46:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:46:03 INFORMING REPORTS.
19:46:06 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
19:46:07 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
19:46:08 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
19:46:12 >>LYNN HURTAK: NONE.
19:46:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
19:46:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, I HAVE A COUPLE OF
19:46:18 ITEMS.
19:46:19 ALL RIGHT.
19:46:21 SO MOTION NUMBER ONE.
19:46:26 A REQUEST -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AND REQUEST
19:46:28 FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN COORDINATION WITH THE
19:46:33 CITY'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO APPEAR AND PRESENT ON
19:46:39 JULY 28, 2022 AT 9 A.M. ON FOLLOWING ITEMS: RESULT ON
19:46:44 COMMUNITY OUTREACH ON THE PRELIMINARY COMPREHENSIVE
19:46:50 PLAN VISION AND UPDATE ON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SET
19:46:53 THAT FOR 10 MINUTES ON THE RECORD SO WE HAVE THAT ON
19:46:55 THE AGENDA.
19:46:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: TEN MINUTES.
19:46:59 MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
19:47:03 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
19:47:06 ROLL CALL VOTE.
19:47:08 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
19:47:10 ANY OPPOSED?
19:47:12 THANK YOU, ANYTHING ELSE?
19:47:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
19:47:18 THIS MORNING I SPOKE ABOUT -- WE SPOKE ABOUT -- AT CRA
19:47:19 ABOUT SILVER OAKS.
19:47:23 I KNOW THERE IS THE -- THE DEPARTMENT OF REGULATION.
19:47:27 WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE A STAFF REPORT,
19:47:32 JULY 14, UNDER STAFF REPORTS, AND JUST TO KNOW WHAT WE
19:47:36 CAN DO FROM A CODE -- FROM A CODE ENFORCEMENT
19:47:40 PERSPECTIVE AND REGARDING TO ANY STRUCTURAL ISSUES.
19:47:42 ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THAT -- WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES
19:47:46 LEGALLY AND WHAT CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN DO IN TERMS OF
19:47:47 SITING A PROPERTY.
19:47:52 THIS IS CONSISTENT TO SILVER OAKS.
19:47:54 WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC AND WE ALL KNOW IN GENERAL THE
19:47:57 CONDITIONS OF HOW PEOPLE ARE LIVING THERE.
19:47:59 I DON'T WANT TO OVERSTEP OUR BOUNDARIES BUT I WANT TO
19:48:02 KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO SHOULD WE SEND OUT CODE
19:48:06 ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, INSPECTORS TO SEE, YOU KNOW,
19:48:10 WHERE TO GO FROM THERE IN TERMS TO HOW WE RESPOND TO
19:48:12 THE REQUEST FOR THE COMMUNITY.
19:48:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, IF YOU CAN ADD ON IT
19:48:17 TO YOUR AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.
19:48:21 I ALREADY ASKED MISS WYNN TO GIVE ON THE MUTUALITY AID
19:48:22 AGREEMENT FROM THE STATE.
19:48:26 AND IF SHE CAN GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT.
19:48:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN ALSO SET THAT FOR JULY 14
19:48:31 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
19:48:32 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT IS FINE.
19:48:36 JUST SO COUNCIL IS AWARE, I SPEAK WITH CAMARIA
19:48:38 PETTIS-MACKLE TODAY.
19:48:40 THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THE STATE TO INTERACT WITH US
19:48:42 ABOUT MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT.
19:48:43 THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT.
19:48:46 AND SHE THOUGHT THAT JULY 14, SHE COULD GIVE A FULL
19:48:49 REPORT WHERE THEY STAND ON THAT AND WHERE -- WHERE OUR
19:48:53 -- WHERE OUR JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES ARE AND ON ALL
19:48:54 THESE TYPES OF ISSUES.
19:48:56 THAT WORKS.
19:48:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
19:48:58 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE AN AMENDMENT.
19:49:01 A VERY FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IF WE MAY FOR THAT.
19:49:05 WE DISCUSSED TIMBER FALLS ON 113TH WHICH IS JUST AS
19:49:08 DEPLORABLE AND, I KNOW WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS BEEN
19:49:09 OUT THERE.
19:49:10 I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE.
19:49:12 REPRESENTATIVE HART.
19:49:15 COMMISSIONER MEYERS.
19:49:18 ANY OBJECTION TO ADDING TIMBER FALLS TO THAT.
19:49:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHY NOT.
19:49:20 LET'S DO IT.
19:49:21 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
19:49:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I ACCEPT THAT.
19:49:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM GOING TO GO WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA
19:49:29 MAKING THE AMENDMENT TO -- AND SECOND TO --
19:49:30 >>LUIS VIERA: HE CAN HAVE IT.
19:49:33 LET GUIDO.
19:49:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU MADE THE AMENDMENT.
19:49:37 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
19:49:37 ALL IN FAVOR.
19:49:40 ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
19:49:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK I AM CORRECT -- I CAN'T
19:49:45 SEE THAT FAR, BUT KRISTIN MOORE IS IN THE BACK.
19:49:47 I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HER.
19:49:50 I WONDER -- IF THIS IS A HINT YOU ARE COMING BACK TO
19:49:51 THE CITY OR HANGING OUT.
19:49:53 >> JUST HANGING OUT.
19:49:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HER.
19:49:58 SHE WORKED HERE AT CITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
19:49:59 WONDERFUL PUBLIC SERVANT.
19:50:01 WE APPRECIATE YOU AND GLAD TO SEE YOU HERE.
19:50:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: STOLE MY THUNDER.
19:50:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAEL J. FOX.
19:50:10 >>LUIS VIERA: MARTY MCFLY.
19:50:14 REALLY FAST ON AUGUST 4, I HAD AN UPDATE ON MONETARY
19:50:18 SUPPORT FOR VICTIMS OF CRIMES.
19:50:21 AND MAY NOT BE HERE BECAUSE OF A MEDIATION I HAVE TO DO
19:50:24 WITH MY PRIVATE PRACTICE THAT MAY INTRUDE ON THAT.
19:50:28 MAY I -- I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IT TO THE JULY 28 SESSION
19:50:29 OF COUNCIL.
19:50:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SAITH MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
19:50:32 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
19:50:35 ALL IN FAVOR.
19:50:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
19:50:42 AND THEN ON THE JULY -- I FORGET -- THE COMMENDATION,
19:50:46 COLONEL DJ REYES WITH US.
19:50:48 I HAVE ANOTHER MEDIATION AND I CAN'T -- I WAS GOING TO
19:50:52 MOVE THAT TO JULY 14, IF I MAY.
19:50:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
19:50:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
19:50:57 OPPOSED.
19:51:00 >>LUIS VIERA: FOR THE CLERK COMMENDATION FOR COLONEL
19:51:02 DJ REYES.
19:51:05 I PROMISE BRINGING SOMETHING VERY CONTROVERSIAL IN THE
19:51:05 EVENING.
19:51:09 I WANTED TO DO A MOTION TO HAVE THE MAYOR SUPPORT AND
19:51:12 CREATE A VETERANS ADVISORY GROUP.
19:51:16 I WAS BEING FUNNY ABOUT THE CONTROVERSIAL -- I KNOW IT
19:51:18 IS NOT CONTROVERSIAL, BUT MUCH LIKE WE HAVE -- WE HAVE
19:51:19 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
19:51:23 I THINK IT IS CALLED THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN ADVISORY
19:51:24 GROUP, HISPANIC DISABILITY.
19:51:26 AND I TALKED TO THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT IT.
19:51:29 I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT FOR
19:51:32 VETERANS HERE NOTICE CITY OF TAMPA.
19:51:37 TO ADVISE ON THE WAYS THAT THE CITY CAN BETTER ASSIST
19:51:40 VETERANS AND POLICY, PATRIOTIC HOLIDAYS.
19:51:44 DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
19:51:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
19:51:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
19:51:47 ANY OPPOSED.
19:51:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
19:51:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
19:51:56 >>BILL CARLSON: NOTHING, THANK YOU.
19:51:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING FROM ME.
19:52:00 RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
19:52:02 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
19:52:05 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
19:52:10 WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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