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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
WORKSHOP
THURSDAY, JUNE 23, 2022
9:00 A.M.

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09:02:31AM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
09:02:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THIS CITY OF
09:02:37AM TAMPA WORKSHOP HELD TODAY ON JUNE 23, 2022.
09:02:43AM IF WE CAN ALL PLEASE RISE FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THEN
09:02:46AM THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:03:06AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:03:07AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:03:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL.
09:03:29AM >>BILL CARSON: HERE.
09:03:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:03:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:03:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:03:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:03:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:03:38AM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:03:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:03:41AM MR. MASSEY.
09:03:42AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: GOOD MORNING.
09:03:44AM THIS IS THE JUNE 23, 2022 CITY OF TAMPA WORKSHOP MEETING
09:03:50AM HELD IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD,
09:03:54AM HERE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:03:56AM THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING IN PERSON OR VIEW
09:04:00AM IT ON SPECTRUM 640 OR FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 OR BY THE INTERNET
09:04:04AM BY TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:04:08AM THE PUBLIC IS ALSO ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING
09:04:11AM EITHER HERE IN PERSON IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS OR VIRTUALLY
09:04:17AM THROUGH COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, CMT.
09:04:21AM THE USE OF CMT PROVIDES PREREGISTRATION FROM THE CITY
09:04:25AM CLERK'S OFFICE.
09:04:26AM IT IS INCLUDED IN THE NOTICE OF THE MEETING AND ON THE
09:04:28AM AGENDA.
09:04:29AM PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
09:04:31AM RELATIVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT AS I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL'S CURRENT
09:04:35AM WORKSHOP PROCEDURE A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE BEGINNING
09:04:40AM OF THE EVENING AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER A
09:04:43AM STAFF'S PRESENTATION ON A WORKSHOP ITEM.
09:04:46AM IF A PERSON MAKES COMMENTS UNDER GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT,
09:04:50AM THAT PERSON CANNOT MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THE STAFF MAKES
09:04:54AM ITS WORKSHOP.
09:04:56AM IN OTHER WORDS, NO DOUBLE DIPPING WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC
09:04:59AM COMMENT ON A WORKSHOP ITEM.
09:05:01AM CAN HAVE A MOTION WAIVING THE USE OF CMT.
09:05:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:05:09AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:05:11AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:05:12AM ANY OBJECTION?
09:05:13AM THANK YOU.
09:05:13AM SHALL WE GO THROUGH THE AGENDA?
09:05:17AM THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME CHANGES.
09:05:25AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:05:28AM ABBYE FEELEY, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
09:05:32AM OPPORTUNITY.
09:05:32AM THIS MORNING I DO HAVE -- THERE WAS A MEMO FROM VIK ON ITEM
09:05:37AM NUMBER 1 FOR A CONTINUANCE.
09:05:38AM ON ITEM NUMBER 2, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE
09:05:42AM THIS MORNING.
09:05:42AM WE ARE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY ACROSS DEPARTMENTS TO ENSURE
09:05:47AM THAT OUR EFFORTS IN RELATION TO EV IS COMING BACK IN A
09:05:50AM COORDINATED FASHION.
09:05:52AM AND IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT, I WILL ASK THAT THOSE PARKING
09:05:56AM RATIOS FOR THE EV BE PACKAGED WHAT COMES BACK WITH VIK ON
09:06:01AM SEPTEMBER 22, IF COUNCIL WILL BE IN FAVOR OF THAT THIS
09:06:05AM MORNING.
09:06:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 1 AND 2 TO
09:06:08AM SEPTEMBER 22, 2022.
09:06:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
09:06:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:06:14AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:06:16AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:06:17AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:06:19AM THANK YOU.
09:06:20AM MISS FEELEY -- EXCUSE ME.
09:06:23AM AS PER YOUR REQUEST, WE WILL BE MOVING AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 6
09:06:29AM AND 7 TO 1 AND 2.
09:06:32AM AND, OF COURSE, YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AND I HOPE
09:06:36AM COUNCIL DOES NOT MIND, WE WILL BE OPENING THEM AT THE SAME
09:06:40AM TIME BECAUSE I BELIEVE MISS FEELEY IS GOING TO WANT TO TALK
09:06:43AM IN CONJUNCTION WITH BOTH OF THEM.
09:06:47AM GOOD?
09:06:48AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:06:50AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:06:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MASSEY, I SEE YOUR FINGER POINTING.
09:06:54AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE ARE AT THE POINT IN TIME FOR GENERAL
09:06:57AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:06:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND WE WILL DO THAT.
09:06:59AM AT THIS TIME, IF A PERSON WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY TYPE OF
09:07:03AM PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT ARE NOT CONCERNING THE AGENDA ITEMS,
09:07:07AM PLEASE, THE PODIUM IS OPEN.
09:07:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: GOOD MORNING.
09:07:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
09:07:21AM LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS JOINED US.
09:07:26AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:07:28AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAID IN BEING HERE IS THAT THIS
09:07:32AM CITY COUNCIL IS VERY INCENTIVE -- VERY INCENTIVE TO THE
09:07:36AM NEEDS, THE CONCERNS OF AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:07:42AM 26% OF THIS POPULATION AND DON'T GET RESPECT FOR BEING 26%
09:07:48AM OF THE POPULATION.
09:07:49AM WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN VICTIMIZED YOU SEE AND FEEL LIKE
09:07:52AM DIFFERENTLY.
09:07:52AM WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN VIOLENTLY RAPED, YOU VIEW SEXUAL THINGS.
09:08:01AM DIFFERENTLY.
09:08:01AM WHEN YOU POSSESS BLACK SKIN AND EXPERIENCE A LIFE OF RACIAL
09:08:05AM DISCRIMINATION, YOUR MENTAL RECEPTORS ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO
09:08:09AM BOTH SMALL AND BIG SIGNS OF RACIAL INSENSITIVITY.
09:08:13AM TWO DRAWINGS IN THIS CITY COUNCIL BUILDING IN PLAIN VIEW
09:08:17AM THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED.
09:08:20AM NOT A TRUE REFLECTION OF THE POPULATION BUT AN ACCURATE
09:08:23AM REFLECTION OF THE CITY'S POLICIES.
09:08:25AM AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE DISRESPECTED INTERNATIONALLY.
09:08:28AM HAS BEEN THE CASE FOR THE PAST 622 YEARS.
09:08:31AM IN 2022 IN THE MOST CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, AN
09:08:36AM 18-YEAR-OLD WHITE MAN IN BUFFALO, NEW YORK, SURROUNDED BY
09:08:40AM LUXURIES CAN FIXATE HIS IMAGINATION ON LOCATING AND
09:08:43AM VIOLENTLY EXTERMINATING AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:08:47AM WE SAW THAT SCENARIO REPEATED IN SOUTH CAROLINA WHERE DYLANN
09:08:53AM ROOF, ONE WOULD THINK AN EXEMPT OCCASION OF HATRED BUT THE
09:08:58AM BOTTOM END OF RACIAL HATRED.
09:09:01AM THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR CARRYING OUT RACIAL HATRED IS
09:09:06AM THROUGH LEGISLATIVE, POLICIES.
09:09:10AM AND ONES AGAINST AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE IN GOVERNMENT OFFICES
09:09:14AM AND PRIVATE BOARDROOMS.
09:09:17AM THE PEOPLE ARE ARE IN THE FOREFRONT OF ELIMINATING THE
09:09:21AM AFRICAN ARE THE WHITE POLICYMAKERS AND LAWMAKERS TO FORCE US
09:09:29AM TO BUY PROPERTIES, CARS, LAND, HOMES, APARTMENTS, PLACES OF
09:09:34AM RESIDENCY THROUGH GENTRIFICATION, OUR HISTORY THROUGH
09:09:38AM SLAVERY, FUTURE THROUGH LACK OF REPARATION AND PROGRAMS THAT
09:09:42AM ARE RACIALLY MOTIVATED AND OFFENSIVE.
09:09:45AM THE PEOPLE THAT SMILE IN OUR FACES EACH AND EVERY DAY ARE
09:09:48AM THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR DISPOSSESSING US
09:09:51AM EVERYTHING THAT THE UNITED NATIONS HAVE IDENTIFIED AS
09:09:55AM STANDARD LIFE NECESSITIES.
09:09:56AM THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS AN ELEGANT WAY OF DECEIVING AFRICAN
09:10:00AM PEOPLE.
09:10:00AM OUR CONCERNS OF OUR REALITY ARE NEVER ATTEND TO.
09:10:04AM WE AFRICAN PEOPLE IN THIS CITY HAVE BEEN MOVING BACKWARDS
09:10:07AM SINCE THE FORMATION OF THIS CITY.
09:10:09AM THE CITY OF TAMPA COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE TO BEAR THAT BLAME AND
09:10:14AM RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE RACIAL DISPARITIES THAT EXIST IN
09:10:17AM THIS CITY.
09:10:17AM WE ARE SAYING AND I AM SAYING THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL NEEDS
09:10:21AM TO TAKE AFRICAN PEOPLE'S CONCERNS MORE SERIOUSLY AND REVERSE
09:10:26AM POLICIES AND LOOK AT MORE REPARATIONS SERIOUSLY FOR AFRICAN
09:10:30AM PEOPLE.
09:10:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. DANIELS.
09:10:40AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:10:41AM MY NAME IS KERRY WEST.
09:10:44AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, RESIDENT IN YBOR CITY.
09:10:47AM I'M HERE TODAY TO TELL YOU ABOUT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE
09:10:50AM IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND RIGHT HERE IN CENTRAL FLORIDA.
09:10:53AM I'M HERE TO ASK AND REQUEST THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
09:10:58AM BRING IN A WORLD PRIDE CONFERENCE AND WILL BE HERE IN
09:11:04AM CENTRAL FLORIDA.
09:11:06AM THE WORLD PRIDE OPPORTUNITIES RIGHT NOW ARE REQUESTED AND
09:11:09AM HAVE BEEN OFFERED TO THE CITIES OF SPAIN, MADRID, AND ALSO
09:11:16AM TO MONTREAL, LONDON, NEW YORK CITY, AND ACROSS THE WORLD.
09:11:23AM IN FACT, IN TWO YEARS, IT IS GOING TO BE IN TAIWAN.
09:11:26AM IT IS GOING TO BE IN CHINA.
09:11:27AM IT HAS GONE THROUGH UNITED NATIONS AND THE APPROVAL OF GOING
09:11:31AM THROUGH THE UNITED NATIONS AND SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO
09:11:33AM HAVE A PRIDE -- A WORLD PRIDE ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD THAT
09:11:38AM IS GREAT.
09:11:38AM THIS OPPORTUNITY IS COMING FORWARD IN 2026.
09:11:42AM MY REQUEST IS TO HAVE THE "HELPING ORLANDO PRIDE" GET THE
09:11:50AM OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE WORLD PRIDE IN 2026.
09:11:53AM THAT -- IN 2000, WE WENT THROUGH THERE AND HAD THE BIG
09:11:58AM OFFERING OF NEW YORK CITY HAVING WORLD PRIDE, AND THAT
09:12:02AM BROUGHT IN SIX MILLION PEOPLE.
09:12:06AM THIS ONE HERE -- CITIES ACROSS FLORIDA AND ACROSS ALL THE
09:12:10AM COUNTIES ARE OFFERING TO BRING IN AND BE THE TENTH
09:12:15AM ANNIVERSARY OF THE PULSE NIGHT CLUB MEMORIAL AND MUSEUM.
09:12:18AM IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN UP THE DOORS TO THE WORLD
09:12:22AM TO SEE.
09:12:24AM THEY ARE ANTICIPATING THAT THIS WILL BE TEN TIMES MORE
09:12:27AM PEOPLE COME INTO ORLANDO THEN VISITING MOUNT VERNON.
09:12:33AM IF THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE, THAT IS SOMETHING UNBELIEVABLE.
09:12:36AM BUT RIGHT NOW THEY ARE REQUESTING JUST A LETTER OF SUPPORT
09:12:40AM TO BRING IN AND AS WE GO DOWN AS A TEAM FROM TAMPA PRIDE, WE
09:12:44AM WILL BE GOING TO MAKE THIS DECISION AND DOING THE BIDDING
09:12:47AM PROCESS DOWN IN MEXICO, DOWN TO GUADALAJARA AND ALL THE
09:12:56AM WORLD LEADERS AROUND THE WORLD.
09:12:58AM I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE GET A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM TAMPA.
09:13:01AM WE ARE GETTING A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE MAYOR AND MAJOR
09:13:05AM CITIES OF FLORIDA.
09:13:05AM AND I AM JUST EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
09:13:07AM AS A BOARD MEMBER OF WORLD PRIDE ON THE SCHOLARSHIP
09:13:12AM COMMITTEE, WE ARE BRING IN NEW PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE WORLD
09:13:15AM AND ADJUSTING AND MAKING HUMAN RIGHTS A POSITIVE THING IN
09:13:20AM HAVING IT TO CENTRAL FLORIDA.
09:13:22AM THIS WILL BE BRINGING A LOT OF NEW EVENTS TO TAMPA AS WE ARE
09:13:26AM GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE THE MANY, MANY MILLIONS
09:13:29AM OF PEOPLE THAT WILL BE COMING.
09:13:32AM THANK YOU.
09:13:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:13:34AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:13:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I MAKE A MOTION THEN THAT THE CHAIR
09:13:38AM -- THAT THE CHAIRMAN DRAFT A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR
09:13:40AM EVERYTHING THAT KERRY WEST HAS REQUESTED IN SUPPORT OF WORLD
09:13:46AM ARE PRIDE.
09:13:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:13:49AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:13:51AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:13:55AM >> THANK YOU.
09:13:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:14:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:14:04AM MY NAME IS ROBIN LOCKETT.
09:14:08AM I HAVE A CONCERN.
09:14:08AM I REPLAYED THE MEETING FROM LAST WEEK, RIGHT, WHEN YOUR
09:14:12AM ATTORNEY CAME UP TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY AROUND THE
09:14:14AM TENANTS ADVOCACY OFFICE, AND IT -- IT BOTHERS ME THAT WHEN
09:14:20AM THAT PRESENTATION WAS DONE, ALL THE DUTY OF THAT OFFICE WAS
09:14:24AM WATERED DOWN TO MAKE YOU THINK THAT -- THAT OFFICE IS JUST
09:14:31AM THE HOT LIEN OR TO MAKE YOU THINK THAT THAT OFFICE IS LESS
09:14:34AM THAN WHAT IT IS.
09:14:35AM JUST TAKING PHONE CALLS AND REDIRECTING PEOPLE, RIGHT.
09:14:39AM THAT OFFICE IS MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
09:14:41AM IN THIS -- IN THIS TIME, AGAIN, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
09:14:49AM MAKE THE OFFICE WHAT WE WANT.
09:14:50AM BECAUSE WE WANT -- WHEN THAT OFFICE IS CREATED, THAT WE
09:14:56AM CHANGE PEOPLE'S LIVES.
09:14:57AM WE HELP PEOPLE.
09:14:57AM WE DIRECT THEM, BUT WE ALSO ENFORCE THINGS.
09:15:01AM I WOULD ASK THAT THE -- I SENT INFORMATION MAYBE TWO OR
09:15:05AM THREE WEEKS AGO TO EACH ONE OF YOU WITH REGARDS TO WHAT
09:15:08AM MIAMI DOES IS AND WHAT OUR PROPOSAL IS WITH REGARDS TO WHAT
09:15:14AM WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
09:15:15AM PLEASE LOOK AT THAT.
09:15:17AM IF YOU DON'T HAVE COUNSEL THAT IS GOING TO PRESENT
09:15:21AM INFORMATION CORRECTLY TO YOU WITH ALL OF THE FACTS, BECAUSE
09:15:25AM LIKE I SAID, I PRINTED WHAT SHE PRESENTED ON THE SCREEN.
09:15:31AM AND IT JUST BOTHERS ME THAT IT IS WATERED DOWN TO APPEAR
09:15:36AM SOMETHING -- THAT IS SOMETHING ELSE AND IT IS NOT.
09:15:38AM SO PLEASE TAKE THE TIME AND A SHAME THAT YOU RELY ON COUNSEL
09:15:46AM TO PRESENT THIS INFORMATION TO YOU.
09:15:47AM AND YOU ARE NOT GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION.
09:15:49AM NOW IF THAT COUNSEL IS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT TYPE OF LAW OR
09:15:54AM WHATEVER BECAUSE EVEN WHEN SHE INDICATED THAT SHE CALLED
09:15:59AM SOMEBODY -- SHE CALLED THE OFFICE.
09:16:03AM WHY NOT PUT THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE.
09:16:05AM AND GET THAT INFORMATION FROM THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE.
09:16:10AM IT HAS ONLY BEEN UP FOR A MONTH.
09:16:13AM AND SO -- THAT IS NOT THE ONLY TIME THAT I -- YOU KNOW,
09:16:17AM THERE IS A DIFFERENCE WITH REGARDS TO WHAT CAN BE DONE AND
09:16:20AM WHAT YOU GUYS ARE RECEIVING AS TO WHAT CAN'T BE DONE.
09:16:27AM SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:16:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS LOCKET.
09:16:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:16:37AM MY NAME IS BOBBY CREIGHTON.
09:16:40AM I AM A RESIDENT OF YBOR HEIGHTS.
09:16:42AM WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS TANGENTIALLY RELATED TO
09:16:47AM ITEM NUMBER 3 BUT I FELT LIKE I WOULD SPEAK NOW TO GIVE
09:16:50AM OTHER PEOPLE TIME IF THEY WANT TO FOCUS ON THAT.
09:16:53AM WHAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT IS NOT TO CRY OVER
09:16:58AM SPILLED MILK OR REHASH SOMETHING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE
09:17:01AM AND CAN'T BE CHANGED.
09:17:02AM BUT I WANT TO INTRODUCE TO YOU A PROJECT THAT IS
09:17:05AM ILLUSTRATIVE OF SOME DEFICIENCIES OF THE WAY THE PROCEDURES
09:17:08AM UNFOLD AND SOME OF THE WAYS THAT THE ZONING FALLS SHORT AND
09:17:12AM ALSO THE LAND USE FALLS SHORT OF MEETING THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE
09:17:15AM IN EAST TAMPA AND NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND MINE.
09:17:18AM SO I WANT TO START BY INTRODUCING YOU TO AN OVERVIEW -- I
09:17:23AM HOPE THIS IS ON HERE.
09:17:24AM PERFECT.
09:17:27AM THIS IS THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
09:17:29AM THE EAST TAMPA CRA, YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE TO USE TAX DOLLARS
09:17:34AM GENERATE IN THAT AREA TO UPLIFT THE COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE
09:17:37AM WHO ARE ALREADY LIVING THERE.
09:17:39AM CRAs ARE CREATED IN AREAS WITH.
09:17:44AM INADEQUATE TRUCK TEMPERATURE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
09:17:51AM INFRASTRUCTURE.
09:17:51AM THIS LOCATION HAPPENS TO BE IN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE
09:17:53AM ENVISION TAMPA -- TAMPA CENTER CITY PLAN.
09:17:57AM THE TWO-MILE RADIUS AROUND DOWNTOWN.
09:18:00AM THE VISION STATEMENT FOR THAT PLAN IS THAT CENTER CITY TAMPA
09:18:03AM WILL BE A COMMUNITY OF LIVABLE PLACES, CONNECTED PEOPLE, AND
09:18:07AM COLLABORATIVE PROGRESS.
09:18:08AM I WANT US TO REMEMBER THAT AS I MOVE THROUGH HERE.
09:18:11AM SO THAT'S WHERE IT IS IN THE CITY.
09:18:16AM I ALSO WANT TO ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY ON THE SITE
09:18:21AM ITSELF.
09:18:21AM HERE WE SEE FLORIBRASKA, AND INTERSECT WITH NEBRASKA.
09:18:32AM THE REASON I INCLUDE THIS SLIDE IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE
09:18:37AM IMPROVEMENTS ALONG FLORIBRASKA, IMPROVED BIKE LANES,
09:18:43AM IMPROVED CROSSWALKS, BULB OUT FOR SAFER PEDESTRIAN TRAVEL
09:18:48AM ALONG SIDEWALKS AND PRESENT FROM INTERFERENCE ON VEHICLES.
09:18:53AM I AM RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
09:18:55AM LET ME INTRODUCE YOU TO THE PROJECT.
09:18:57AM THIS IS THE PROJECT ITSELF.
09:18:59AM THREE-STORY TOWN HOMES AND ONLY FIVE OF THEM --
09:19:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I STOP YOU AT ONE MOMENT.
09:19:07AM >> YES, SIR.
09:19:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MASSEY.
09:19:10AM HAS THIS BEEN --
09:19:17AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WAS IT PRESENT TO THIS BODY?
09:19:19AM >> IT WASN'T PRESENT TO THIS --
09:19:23AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: AS LONG AS IT IS NOT SOMETHING PENDING
09:19:26AM BEFORE THEM.
09:19:26AM THEY SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERING THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE
09:19:29AM HEARING.
09:19:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE GIVE THIS GENTLEMAN A MINUTE.
09:19:33AM >> I DIDN'T MEAN TO RUFFLE ANY FEATHERS THERE
09:19:36AM RUNNING SHORT ON TIME HERE.
09:19:38AM THIS IS THE LOT ITSELF.
09:19:42AM YOU CAN SEE NOT A HUGE LOT.
09:19:44AM COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE AND THE CADDY
09:19:47AM CORNER SIDE.
09:19:48AM LET ME REINTRODUCE THE SITE PLAN.
09:19:51AM DEFICIENT FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
09:19:54AM IT DOESN'T MEET THE DENSITY IN THIS AREA.
09:19:57AM FIVE TOWN HOMES THAT ARE THREE STORIES.
09:20:00AM IMAGINE WHAT THIS COULD BE WITH THE FULL POTENTIAL OF THE
09:20:03AM SITE WHERE PEOPLE NEED TO LIVE WHEN WE ARE IN A HOUSING
09:20:06AM CRISIS.
09:20:07AM THE SECOND THING I WANT TO POINT OUT RELATED TO ITEM NUMBER
09:20:11AM 3 ON THE AGENDA IS THERE IS NO MIXED USE.
09:20:15AM YBOR MADE A STATEMENT AND SENT IT IN THAT THEY OPPOSE THAT
09:20:22AM PROJECT FOR THIS REASON.
09:20:23AM THEY WANTED MIXED USE ON THE CORNER.
09:20:25AM IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE CORNER.
09:20:26AM I THINK THAT IS NOT AN UNFAIR ASK.
09:20:29AM THIS IS A SITE ON A BUSY CORNER.
09:20:31AM COMMERCIAL AROUND THE AREA AND THERE HAVEN'T BEEN MUCH
09:20:35AM DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES IN YBOR OR
09:20:40AM NEBRASKA FOR THAT MATTER.
09:20:41AM I AM ASKING YOU TODAY SINCE I AM RUNNING OUT OF TIME IS TO
09:20:44AM PLEASE CONSIDER LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND HOW WE
09:20:48AM CAN IMPLEMENT BETTER STANDARDS OR PERHAPS MORE CLEAR
09:20:51AM LANGUAGE IN THE PLAN SO THAT SITES LIKE THIS ARE FULLY
09:20:54AM OPTIMIZED IN THE COMMUNITY CAN REALLY BENEFIT FROM THE
09:20:57AM DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COME INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW,
09:21:01AM TO PRESERVE AFFORDABILITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTO THE
09:21:05AM FUTURE.
09:21:05AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:21:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:21:07AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.
09:21:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:21:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS TRAVIS, THE EAST TAMPA CRA IS GETTING
09:21:15AM READY TO DO AN OVERLAY.
09:21:16AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SORRY?
09:21:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: EAST COMPANY DOING THE OVERLAY.
09:21:24AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
09:21:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAID, HE IS RIGHT ABOUT
09:21:30AM NEBRASKA AVENUE, AND 22nd AVENUE.
09:21:33AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THE OVERLAY WILL COVER SOME OF THE THINGS
09:21:36AM HE BROUGHT IN HIS PRESENTATION.
09:21:38AM NOT THE USE -- NOT REQUIREMENTS OF THE USE, BUT WILL
09:21:42AM CONTEMPLATE DESIGN STANDARDS.
09:21:43AM WE WILL MAKE THE PRESENTATION TO YOU, BUT WE ARE IN THE
09:21:45AM PROCESS OF DOING THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY NOW.
09:21:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
09:21:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISH TO MAKE
09:22:05AM PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME?
09:22:12AM >> TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:22:19AM I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF COMMENT FOR THE DAY, BUT I DO
09:22:23AM WANT TO READ SOME SCRIPTURE FROM THE BOOK OF 2 CHRONICLES,
09:22:28AM 13 AND 14.
09:22:29AM I WISH YOU PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS.
09:22:33AM THAT WAY WE CAN GET THINGS DONE THROUGH THE SPIRIT OF GOD.
09:22:36AM GOD SAID THIS, HE SAID IF I SHUT UP HEAVEN, THERE WILL BE NO
09:22:42AM RAIN.
09:22:43AM IF I COMMAND THE LOCAL TO THE LAND AND IF I SEND PESTILENCE
09:22:50AM AMONG MY PEOPLE.
09:22:51AM BUT THIS IS WHAT GOD IS TELLING US.
09:22:53AM MY PEOPLE WHICH ARE CALLED BY MY NAME SHALL HUMBLE
09:22:58AM THEMSELVES AND PRAY AND SEEK MY FAITH AND TURN FROM THEIR
09:23:05AM WICKED WAYS, THEN WILL I HEAR FROM HEAVEN.
09:23:09AM AND WILL FORGIVE THEIR SINS AND WILL HEAL THE LAND.
09:23:14AM ISN'T THAT SOMETHING?
09:23:15AM THAT IS HOW GOOD GOD IS TO ALL OF US.
09:23:18AM BUT WE DON'T WANT TO RESPECT GOD IT LOOK LIKE IN NO KIND OF
09:23:22AM WAY.
09:23:22AM FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THE -- THE CITY COUNCIL FOR COMING
09:23:26AM OVER CHECKING OUT MY RESIDENT MUSEUM AND EVERYTHING.
09:23:30AM AND ALTHOUGH THEY DIDN'T GIVE ME NO CONCRETE WORD ON WHAT
09:23:37AM THEY ARE GOING TO DO BY THE PEOPLE BLOCKING UP MY STREET,
09:23:42AM BUT ONE THING ABOUT IT, GOD KNOWS, AND HE WILL TAKE CARE OF
09:23:46AM ALL OF US, ESPECIALLY HIS CHILDREN.
09:23:49AM AND I AM SAYING THIS TO SAY THIS, WE ACT LIKE WE DON'T CARE,
09:23:55AM BUT GOD CARE.
09:23:56AM AND WE CARE ABOUT GOD FOR WHAT HE IS DOING FOR US RIGHTS
09:24:01AM NOW.
09:24:01AM GOD IS THE ONE.
09:24:03AM AND HE MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO BE HERE THIS MORNING.
09:24:08AM AND WE MUST TELL HIM THANK YOU.
09:24:11AM GOD IS THE ONE THAT PUT FOOD ON OUR TABLE.
09:24:14AM AND WE DON'T GOT SENSE ENOUGH TO TELL HIM THANK YOU.
09:24:18AM GOD IS THE ONE THAT CLOTHES US, AND WE DON'T HAVE SENSE
09:24:22AM ENOUGH TO THANK HIM.
09:24:24AM GOD IS THE ONE THAT GIVES AUTOMOBILE WITH THE GASES THAT ARE
09:24:28AM EXTREMELY HIGH.
09:24:29AM THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE JOB.
09:24:34AM EVERYTHING WE DO COMES FROM GOD.
09:24:37AM GOD IS BLESSING US RIGHT NOW.
09:24:40AM AND WE SEEM TO DISRESPECT HIM, BUT I AM GOING TO TELL YOU
09:24:45AM ALL SOMETHING.
09:24:46AM THE SCRIPTURE I JUST SAID, GOD SAID IF MY PEOPLE WHO ARE
09:24:51AM CALLED BY MY NAME SEEK MY FAITH AND PRAY AND TURN FROM THEIR
09:24:57AM WICKED WAYS, THEN GOD SAYS I WILL HEAL THE LAND.
09:25:00AM THE LAND IS IN AN UPROAR.
09:25:03AM THE LAND NEEDS TO BE HEADS, BUT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE LAND
09:25:08AM BEING HEALED.
09:25:08AM AND WE DON'T CARE NOTHING ABOUT OURSELVES BEING HEALED.
09:25:12AM BUT WE STILL MUST GIVE THE GOD THE GLORY FOR EVERYTHING THAT
09:25:17AM HE DONE FOR US RECEIPTS NOW.
09:25:19AM FIRST, PEOPLE, I GOT TO TELL YOU THAT I THANK GOD FOR THIS
09:25:22AM DAY.
09:25:22AM AND IF THERE WILL BE A TOMORROW, I WILL THANK HIM IN
09:25:27AM ADVANCE.
09:25:27AM GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU ALL.
09:25:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:25:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:25:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO VISITS WITH
09:25:37AM YOU LAST WEEK.
09:25:38AM IT WAS AN HONOR AND PLEASURE TO GO IN THAT FORMER PALACE
09:25:43AM OF ALLEN TEMPLE.
09:25:45AM MY BROTHER WAS FUNERALIZE IN THAT FACILITIES BACK IN '87.
09:25:51AM BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES WHEN I WENT TO THE UPSTAIRS PORTION OF
09:25:55AM THAT CHURCH.
09:25:55AM THE ARTIFACTS AND RELICS YOU HAVE IN THAT CHURCH ARE
09:25:58AM PRICELESS.
09:25:59AM SOME OF THE THINGS I SAW DATING BACK TO SEGREGATION.
09:26:04AM THE PHOTOS AND THE -- I JUST -- SOME OF THE TRINKETS THAT
09:26:08AM WERE IN THERE, I MEAN, THEY ARE JUST PRICELESS.
09:26:11AM JUST PRICELESS.
09:26:12AM I WAS AMAZED TO SEE THOSE THINGS IN THERE.
09:26:16AM I KNOW MR. BURTON OF OUR CENTRAL CR A SENT ME AN E-MAIL
09:26:23AM ABOUT GETTING WITH YOU AND SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO, SOME
09:26:26AM ISSUES WITH THE CHURCH.
09:26:27AM I KNOW ABOUT THE PARKING.
09:26:28AM HE IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT WITH HIS STAFF TO WORK ON
09:26:32AM THOSE ISSUES.
09:26:33AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SEE WHAT IS IN
09:26:36AM THERE, BECAUSE WHAT IS IN THERE, TRULY PEOPLE NEED TO SEE
09:26:39AM AND IF OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE A CHANCE TO GO BY THERE, I
09:26:43AM AM TELLING YOU WHAT IS IN THERE, IT'S AMAZING.
09:26:45AM THANK YOU FOR BLESSING ME TO SEE THAT, SIR.
09:26:48AM >> THANK YOU, BROTHER GUDES.
09:26:50AM I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING AND I KNOW Y'ALL WAS VERY
09:26:56AM EXCITED OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN, BUT I TRY TO PUT THE TRUTH
09:27:00AM OUT AND LET THE PEOPLE SEE THE EVIDENCE OF THE TRUTH,
09:27:04AM WHETHER THEY THINK IT DIDN'T HAPPEN OR WHETHER THEY THINK IT
09:27:07AM HAPPENS.
09:27:07AM THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF DOWN THERE IN THE MUSEUM.
09:27:10AM WE ARE GLAD.
09:27:11AM THEY ARE BREAKING OUT MY WINDOWS AND EVERYTHING.
09:27:14AM SEEMS LIKE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT REALLY WANT TO PUT IT ALL ON
09:27:18AM ME.
09:27:18AM BUT THE THING ABOUT IT, WE GOT TO DO GOD'S WILL REGARDLESS
09:27:25AM AND THANK GOD FOR ALLOWING ME TO DO HIS WILL.
09:27:28AM Y'ALL THAT DIDN'T COME DOWN TO CHECK OUT THE MUSEUM AND
09:27:31AM DIDN'T SEE THE CHURCH, I GUARANTEE YOU MISS A TREAT.
09:27:34AM BECAUSE WE GOT THINGS THAT REALLY HAPPENED.
09:27:37AM AND THEY HAPPENED BECAUSE WE ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN.
09:27:41AM BUT AMERICA IS SUPPOSED TO BE A GREAT NATION.
09:27:44AM AIN'T THAT RIGHT?
09:27:45AM THAT IS WHAT Y'ALL TOLD ME.
09:27:47AM IF Y'ALL DIDN'T TELL ME, YOU ARE FOOLING ME.
09:27:50AM BECAUSE AMERICA IS A GREAT NATION.
09:27:52AM AMERICA DISRESPECTS A LOT OF ITS PEOPLE.
09:27:55AM WHAT YOU CALL UNITED STATES.
09:27:58AM THEY ARE DISRESPECT ME AND A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE.
09:28:02AM SO GOD BLESS YOU ALL ANYHOW.
09:28:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:28:08AM ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
09:28:11AM THAT WISHES TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:28:21AM THIS IS NOT JUST FOR AGENDA ITEMS.
09:28:23AM THIS IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:28:24AM OKAY.
09:28:25AM LET'S GO ONLINE.
09:28:27AM AGAIN, THE PEOPLE SPEAKING ONLINE, THIS IS FOR GENERAL
09:28:30AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:28:31AM IF YOU WISH TO MAKE COMMENTS DURING THE AGENDA ITEMS, WE
09:28:35AM WILL ASK YOU TO WAIT UNTIL THAT TIME.
09:28:38AM THANK YOU.
09:28:38AM FIRST PERSON CAMILLO SOTO.
09:28:45AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, CAMILLO SOTO IS NOT LOGGED ON.
09:28:50AM NINE REGISTERED SPEAKER, WE ONLY HAVE NINE -- TWO SORRY.
09:28:54AM THE FIRST ONE IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
09:28:57AM STEPHANIE, IF YOU HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
09:29:01AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:29:06AM >> I AM GOING TO HOLD MY COMMENTS UNTIL THE AGENDA ITEMS
09:29:10AM EXCEPT FOR CFI, I HOPE YOU KIBOSH THAT ONE.
09:29:13AM OTHER THAN THAT, I AM GOING TO HOLD MY COMMENTS.
09:29:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAS THAT STEPHANIE POYNOR.
09:29:21AM DIDN'T SOUND LIKE HER.
09:29:22AM SOUNDED --
09:29:24AM >> YES, I HAVE COVID, SIR.
09:29:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
09:29:27AM WHO IS NEXT ONLINE?
09:29:34AM >>CLERK: THE NEXT ONE IS MICHELLE PANERE.
09:29:40AM IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, UNMUTE YOURSELF.
09:29:41AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:29:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU THERE?
09:29:55AM YOU NEED TO UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.
09:30:13AM ARE YOU THERE?
09:30:14AM >> SHE IS ON.
09:30:14AM SHE JUST NEEDS TO UNMUTE HERSELF.
09:30:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF?
09:30:32AM YOU ARE SELF-MUTED.
09:30:34AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU MAY WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT.
09:30:36AM APPARENTLY MISS CONER, YOU SELF-MUTE
09:30:42AM WE CAN'T UNMUTES YOU FROM HERE.
09:30:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT, ARE THOSE THE ONLY TWO SPEAKERS
09:30:50AM WE HAVE AT THE TIME.
09:30:51AM >> WE ACTUALLY FROM CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
09:30:54AM IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, UNMUTE YOURSELF.
09:30:56AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:30:58AM >> HI, MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT, LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF
09:31:03AM TAMPA.
09:31:03AM I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SPEAK ON MY ITEMS NOW BECAUSE I
09:31:08AM HAVE COMMITMENTS LATER IN THE DAY.
09:31:10AM I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST TALK ABOUT THE MIXED USE THAT STEPHEN
09:31:16AM BENSON IS GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU.
09:31:18AM STEPHEN MET WITH STEPHANIE POYNOR AND MYSELF FOR, LIKE, TWO
09:31:24AM HOURS AND WE WENT OVER HIS PLAN VERY, VERY CAREFULLY AND
09:31:26AM ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
09:31:27AM AND I WANT TO SAY THAT I AM PRETTY PLEASED THE PLAN.
09:31:33AM I THINK IT WILL ACCOMPLISH A LOT.
09:31:35AM THE WAY THINGS STAND NOW, A DEVELOPER CAN QUALIFY FOR
09:31:38AM SOMETHING AS, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, MIXED USE AND THE MIXED USE
09:31:43AM COULD BE THE SIZE OF MY BEDROOM CLOSET AND SOLVES MY PROBLEM
09:31:49AM IN A VERY GOOD WAY AND I AM HOPE THAT WE CAN GET BEHIND THIS
09:31:52AM AND SUPPORT THIS.
09:31:53AM THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE -- IS THE TAMPA
09:31:58AM HEIGHTS -- WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.
09:32:01AM THING IS VERY GOOD.
09:32:03AM THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS.
09:32:06AM AS YOU SAW EARLIER WHEN MR. CREIGHTON SPOKE, THINGS --
09:32:14AM BETTER THINGS CAN BE DONE.
09:32:15AM MORE THINGS CAN BE DONE.
09:32:16AM BETTER DESIGNS CAN BE MADE THAT ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS AND
09:32:21AM PRESERVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND GIVE EACH NEIGHBORHOOD ITS
09:32:24AM OWN CHARACTER, ITS OWN FLAVOR, IT'S OWN IDENTITY.
09:32:28AM AND NOT HAVE THAT IDENTITY WASHED AWAY BY THESE GENERIC
09:32:36AM COOKIE CUTTER HIGHEST PROFIT DEVELOPMENTS.
09:32:40AM SO I AM REALLY HOPING THAT YOU SUPPORT WHAT TAMPA HEIGHTS IS
09:32:43AM TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
09:32:46AM AND I GUESS THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
09:32:48AM I HOPE YOU GUY HAVE A GOOD DAY.
09:32:50AM THANK YOU.
09:32:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS POYNOR -- I MEAN MISS
09:32:58AM BENNETT.
09:32:59AM THANK YOU.
09:32:59AM MISS CANERE, ARE YOU THERE?
09:33:05AM WE WILL TRY YOU ONE MORE TIME.
09:33:07AM ALL RIGHT.
09:33:08AM LET'S -- LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
09:33:10AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD HEARD OR NOT, BUT
09:33:15AM WE CONTINUED ITEMS 1 AND 2.
09:33:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
09:33:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: UNTIL SEPTEMBER AND WE ARE GOING TO HEAR 6
09:33:23AM AND 7 FIRST.
09:33:24AM AND WE WILL BE OPENING THEM UP TOGETHER.
09:33:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
09:33:30AM SETH.
09:33:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:33:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS FEELEY, OPENING ITEM 6 AND 7, FILE
09:33:39AM NUMBERE 2021-8 CH 27.
09:33:52AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WANTED TO ASK BRIEFLY.
09:33:54AM DID YOU WANT TO HANDLE NUMBER 4.
09:33:56AM MISS BENNETT JUST MENTION IT -- OR MISS POYNOR JUST MENTION
09:34:02AM IT AND I WAS GOING TO SEE IF THIS ITEM NEEDED TO MOVE
09:34:04AM FORWARD OR NOT AS WELL.
09:34:06AM IF NOT, WE WILL WAIT UNTIL IT COMES IN ORDER.
09:34:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DO HEAR ANY OBJECTION FROM COUNCIL?
09:34:12AM LET'S OPEN ITEM 4 AS PER THE REQUEST OF MISS FEELEY,E
09:34:24AM 2021-8 CH 27.
09:34:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:34:29AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:34:31AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:34:33AM ANY OBJECTIONS?
09:34:36AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I BELIEVE THIS WAS A MOTION MADE BY
09:34:39AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO IN RELATION TO THE COMP PLAN
09:34:41AM AMENDMENTS FROM 2016 FOR RATTLESNAKE POINT AND THE IMPACT
09:34:46AM ON CFI.
09:34:47AM GIVEN OUR REPORT RELATED TOCFI LAST WEEK AND THEIR SALE AND
09:34:52AM RELOCATION.
09:34:52AM WE WERE NOT SURE IF THIS ITEM NEEDED TO CONTINUE TO BE
09:34:56AM DISCUSSED.
09:34:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW WHAT WAS BROUGHT
09:35:02AM UP LAST WEEK, I THINK THE POINT IS MOOT AT LEAST THE DEAL
09:35:06AM DOESN'T FALL THROUGH.
09:35:08AM AT THIS POINT, I THINK EVERYTHING IS MOVING FORWARD.
09:35:11AM SO I DON'T SEE THE NEED UNLESS ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBER
09:35:15AM BRINGS IT UP TO DISCUSS IT ANY FURTHER.
09:35:19AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF WE WERE NOT
09:35:21AM GOING TO PROCEED WITH THAT ITEM, IF THERE WAS ANYONE HERE IN
09:35:25AM THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON IT COUNCIL TOOK ACTION
09:35:28AM AND WE WERE NOT WAITING BECAUSE ITEM 6 IS GOING TO TAKE A
09:35:31AM LITTLE BIT AND WE ARE READY TO START WHEN YOU ARE.
09:35:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
09:35:36AM TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4?
09:35:38AM AND I SEE THERE WAS TWO PEOPLE THAT WERE WANTING TO SPEAK TO
09:35:41AM THIS AGENDA ITEM BUT SINCE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO HAS STATED
09:35:45AM IT IS A MOOT POINT, MISS POYNER AND DEARE.
09:35:54AM ARE YOU ON THE LINE.
09:35:55AM DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM?
09:35:58AM >> NO, I'M GOOD.
09:35:59AM THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN SOLD.
09:36:01AM THEY ALREADY CLOSED ON IT.
09:36:02AM NOT A WHOLE LOT OF BACKING UP.
09:36:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:36:05AM IS MISS GEARE ON LINE?
09:36:12AM >>CLERK: CHAIR, THE SECOND PERSON DID NOT LOG ON.
09:36:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:36:17AM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND MISS FEELEY.
09:36:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE IT
09:36:25AM OFF THE AGENDA.
09:36:26AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: PLEASE.
09:36:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 4.
09:36:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:36:31AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:36:33AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:36:34AM ANY OBJECTION?
09:36:36AM THANK YOU, MISS FEELEY.
09:36:38AM NOW TO AGENDA ITEMS 6 AND 7.
09:36:42AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:: GREAT, ABBYE FEELEY, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR
09:36:45AM DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
09:36:46AM WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 6 FOR YOU THIS MORNING AND THIS IS A
09:36:53AM DISCUSSION THAT IS MADE UP OF A COUPLE OF COMPONENTS.
09:36:56AM IF I CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:36:58AM AND WE HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN FOR YOU.
09:37:03AM NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
09:37:05AM OKAY.
09:37:10AM WE HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN FOR YOU IN HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, THE
09:37:15AM CITY INITIATED CODE AMENDMENTS AND PRIVATELY INITIATED CODE
09:37:19AM AMENDMENTS.
09:37:19AM BEFORE I GET START THIS MORNING, MISS JOHNS JUST JOINED.
09:37:23AM SHE WANTED TO REPLY TO THE COMMENTS MADE FROM TENANT
09:37:27AM ADVOCACY BY MISS LOCKET THIS MORNING IF YOU WOULDN'T HAVE AN
09:37:31AM ISSUE ABOUT THAT.
09:37:32AM SINCE WE WILL BE TALKING OF HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND SOME
09:37:35AM OF OUR NEW UNDERTAKINGS WE ARE BRINGING TO YOU.
09:37:38AM I WOULD DEFER TO HER FOR JUST A MOMENT.
09:37:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
09:37:43AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:: YES, SIR.
09:37:44AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: GOOD MORNING.
09:37:45AM REBECCA JOHNS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
09:37:48AM I WANTED TO CLARIFY REGARDING THE ORDINANCE BROUGHT UP
09:37:52AM EARLIER.
09:37:52AM OBVIOUSLY I REVIEWED THE ORDINANCE BEFORE I REVIEWED MY
09:37:57AM PRESENTATION.
09:37:57AM AND I SUMMARIZED IT IN MY BULLET POINTS, BUT I WANTED TO GO
09:38:02AM AHEAD -- I WILL DISTRIBUTE THIS TO YOU ALL, BUT I WANTED TO
09:38:06AM SHOW EVERYONE THE ACTUAL BULLET POINTS FROM THE ORDINANCE OF
09:38:10AM WHAT THE OFFICE IN MIAMI IS TASKED WITH DOING PER ORDINANCE.
09:38:14AM I DO WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT I DISCUSSED WAS WHAT THEY HAVE
09:38:17AM ACTUALLY BEEN DOING BASED ON CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PEOPLE
09:38:21AM DOING IT.
09:38:21AM BUT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE
09:38:25AM BULLET POINTS IF THAT IS OKAY.
09:38:28AM SO THEY ARE TASKED WITH COORDINATE WITH AND REFERRING
09:38:32AM MATTERS AND COMPLAINTS TO FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL AGENCIES
09:38:34AM OR ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING LEGAL AND OTHER ADVOCACY
09:38:39AM ORGANIZATION THAT'S MAY HAVE THE AUTHORITY --
09:38:41AM >> EXCUSE ME.
09:38:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN'T SEE THEM.
09:38:46AM >> SORRY.
09:38:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE YOU GO.
09:38:56AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: REFERRING MATTER ARE RELATED TO SECTION 8
09:38:59AM PROGRAMS AND OTHER FEDERALLY SUBSIDIZED TO THE COMMUNITY
09:39:03AM HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND SUCCESSOR DEPARTMENT.
09:39:07AM PUBLISHING AND DISSEMINATING INFORMATION RELATED TO THIS
09:39:11AM ARTICLE INCLUDING TO LAND RECORDS THIS PROMOTE THEIR
09:39:15AM PARTICIPATION IN EXISTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS.
09:39:17AM CONDUCTING TRAININGS AND OUTREACH FOR TENANTS AND LANDLORDS
09:39:22AM AT A MINIMUM OF FOUR TIMES A YEAR.
09:39:23AM SERVING AS AN ADVISOR TO THE COUNTY MAYOR ON HOUSING POLICY
09:39:28AM MATTERS.
09:39:29AM ASSISTING THE COUNTY MAYOR TO SECURE RESOURCE TO SUPPORT
09:39:32AM TENANT LEGAL ADVOCACY INCLUDING GRANTS.
09:39:35AM DEVELOPING RESOURCES FOR LANDLORDS AND TENANTS FOR HOUSING
09:39:41AM STABILITY.
09:39:41AM AND LIAISON WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS REPRESENTING TENANTS AND
09:39:45AM LANDLORDS.
09:39:46AM PERFORMING SUCH OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES RELATED TO THE
09:39:50AM MIAMI-DADE COUNTY TENANT BILL OF RIGHTS AS ASSIGNED BY THE
09:39:53AM COUNTY MAYOR AND THE COUNTY MAYOR DESIGNEE AND PERFORMING
09:39:58AM DUTIES, FUNCTIONS, POWERS AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO FURTHER
09:40:02AM THE PURPOSE OF THIS ARTICLE.
09:40:03AM I WANT TO CLARIFY IF ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY
09:40:06AM FURTHER DIRECTION OR COMMENTS REGARDING US DEVELOP THIS
09:40:11AM OFFICE, LET ME KNOW.
09:40:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:40:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: COULD YOU MOVE THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
09:40:18AM YES.
09:40:20AM THE CONDUCTING, TRAINING AND OUTREACH FOR TENANTS.
09:40:23AM I DIDN'T SEE THAT AS PART OF OURS.
09:40:26AM >> YES, BECAUSE THAT HAVEN'T HAPPENED -- THEY HAVEN'T DONE
09:40:30AM THAT.
09:40:30AM MY PRESENTATION TO YOU WAS WHAT THEY ACTUALLY WERE DOING.
09:40:34AM SO THAT'S WHY THAT WASN'T ONE OF THE ACTUAL BULLET POINTS,
09:40:38AM BUT WHAT THAT IS, IS PUTTING -- IS GOING TO BE PUTTING
09:40:42AM INFORMATION ON THEIR WEB SITE.
09:40:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.
09:40:47AM AND I THINK OURS SHOULD INCLUDE THAT AS WELL.
09:40:53AM THE PUBLISHING AND DISSEMINATION OF INFORMATION AND
09:40:56AM EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS ALSO SEEMS LIKE A GREAT IDEA IN
09:41:00AM SECURING RESOURCES THROUGH GRANTS.
09:41:02AM AND I KNOW TECHNICALLY THAT WOULD BE PART OF WHAT THE CITY
09:41:05AM DOES, BUT TO ACTUALLY EXPLICITLY HAVE IT IN OUR ORDINANCE
09:41:10AM WOULD, TO ME, BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
09:41:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
09:41:18AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:41:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THANK YOU FOR THAT -- FOR THAT
09:41:21AM PRESENTATION OR SHOWING US THAT.
09:41:24AM YOU KNOW, I THINK THE MAIN ISSUE -- AND I KNOW -- I THINK WE
09:41:27AM ALL AGREE ON THIS IS WE ALL ENSURE -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS
09:41:32AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO OR GUDES WHO SAID THIS.
09:41:34AM MAKING SURE THIS HAS ROBUST -- WITH TEETH.
09:41:38AM WHATEVER TERM YOU WANT TO CALL IT, AND WE WILL LOOK AT THAT.
09:41:41AM THERE WERE SOME OTHER THINGS.
09:41:43AM I MET WITH MISS LOCKET AND OTHER FOLKS FROM FLORIDA RISING
09:41:47AM YESTERDAY.
09:41:47AM SOME OTHER IDEAS THAT WERE PUT FORWARD THAT MAY NOT BE
09:41:51AM APPLICABLE TO THIS, BUT THINGS I WANTED TO RESEARCH, THINGS
09:41:56AM LIKE THE TENANT BILL OF RIGHTS AND HAVING A POTENTIAL -- I
09:41:59AM WILL CALL IT A STATUE OF LIMITATIONS ON PRIOR EVICTIONS AND
09:42:03AM OTHER ISSUES.
09:42:04AM ADVISING TENANTS OF THEIR RESPECTED RIGHTS WITH REGARD TO
09:42:08AM RETALIATION-BASED RIGHTS FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER, ETC.
09:42:13AM NOTHING THAT IS TO THIS, BUT SOMETHING AND I KNOW WE WILL
09:42:18AM ALL GET HERE, THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS ROBUST AND I AM
09:42:21AM SURE WE ARE GOING TO GET THERE.
09:42:22AM BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
09:42:24AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
09:42:25AM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:42:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:42:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO THINGS REAL FAST.
09:42:31AM ONE THING IS I WOULD ASK THE ADMINISTRATION AS ISSUES GO
09:42:34AM THROUGH CITY COUNCIL, WE ARE USING STAFF THAT ULTIMATELY
09:42:39AM REPORT TO THE MAYOR.
09:42:40AM ASK THE ADMINISTRATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS
09:42:42AM OR PROBLEMS WITH SOMETHING WE ARE PROPOSING TO CALL US OR
09:42:45AM ASK STAFF TO CALL US AND EXPRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
09:42:47AM A LINE IN THE EDITORIAL OVER THE WEEKEND IMPLIED THAT THE
09:42:52AM MAYOR'S OFFICE PROBABLY CALLED THE EDITORIAL BOARD OF THE
09:42:56AM "TIMES" AND SAID WE DON'T LIKE THIS, SO PUT A DAGGER IN IT.
09:43:00AM IF YOU READ THE PRESS RELEASE THAT WENT OUT A COUPLE OF DAYS
09:43:04AM AGO ABOUT THE MAYOR'S HOTLINE, LOOKS LIKE IT IS CROSS
09:43:08AM PURPOSES WITH CITY COUNCIL.
09:43:08AM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF YOU BUT I GOT A BUNCH OF
09:43:12AM CALLS WHEN THE PRESS RELEASE WENT OUT AND THE PRESS
09:43:15AM CONFERENCE, I KNOW ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES ATTENDED THE PRESS
09:43:18AM CONFERENCE.
09:43:19AM I SAW IN THE MEDIA THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WAS ASKED IF THIS
09:43:23AM CONFLICTS WITH CITY COUNCIL.
09:43:24AM THE PUBLIC IS TIRED OF FIGHTS BETWEEN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND
09:43:27AM CITY COUNCIL.
09:43:28AM I ASK EVERYBODY, IF THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, LET'S
09:43:31AM WORK THIS OUT BEHIND THE SCENES OR EVEN IN THESE CHAMBERS.
09:43:34AM ONCE WE VOTE ON SOMETHING, NOT THE TO HAVE POLITICAL JABS IN
09:43:38AM THE MEDIA.
09:43:39AM IT DOESN'T SERVE ANYBODY.
09:43:40AM IT CONFUSES THE PUBLIC.
09:43:42AM UPSETS THE PUBLIC AND WE NEED TO TRY TO WORK TOGETHER.
09:43:44AM THE SECOND THING IS THAT TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:43:49AM I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN MAKE MOTIONS NOW, BUT IF YOU WANTED
09:43:53AM TO MAKE A MOTION TO REPLACE THIS LIST WITH THE ONE WE GAVE
09:43:56AM THEM THE OTHER DAY, I WOULD SECOND IT OR SUPPORT IT.
09:43:58AM THANK YOU.
09:44:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:44:02AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW I SUPPORTED THE ORDINANCE IN THE
09:44:05AM LAST GO-AROUND.
09:44:07AM I WAS CLEAR.
09:44:08AM I DON'T THINK IT HAS THE TEETH THAT THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY
09:44:11AM LOOKING FOR.
09:44:13AM MAKING SURE THAT HOTLINE, GETTING INFORMATION TO PEOPLE IN
09:44:17AM THE RIGHT PLACE AND MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE SERVICES THEY
09:44:20AM NEED.
09:44:21AM I AM GRATEFUL THAT WE PUT OUR FOOT FORWARD TO DO SOMETHING
09:44:25AM LIKE THIS.
09:44:26AM AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS GOING TO WORK.
09:44:28AM AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T MEET WITH THE FOLKS THAT --
09:44:31AM THE COMMUNITY THAT WERE EVEN ADVOCATING IT.
09:44:33AM AND SOMETIMES WE NEED TO MEET WITH THE PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE
09:44:36AM WE ARE ON BOARD.
09:44:37AM COUNCIL CAN PUT STUFF FORWARD, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT BRING THE
09:44:40AM STUFF TO US A LOT OF TIMES BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES HURTING
09:44:43AM AND SUFFERING AND MAKING SURE YOU GET ENGAGEMENT.
09:44:46AM IF MISS HURTAK DECIDES TO DO THAT, WE MAYBE NEED TO REVISIT
09:44:53AM WITH GROUPS LIKE FLORIDA RISE WHO ARE ASKING FOR CERTAIN
09:44:55AM THINGS TO SEE HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT THOSE POINTS THAT THEY
09:44:58AM ARE LOOKING FOR.
09:45:00AM I THINK ENGAGEMENT IS GOOD.
09:45:01AM THAT WAY ALL BASES ARE COVERED.
09:45:04AM SO MISS HURTAK PUTS SOMETHING ON THE FLOOR, I ASKED THAT
09:45:08AM THAT BE INCLUDED -- THE COMMUNITY WITH FLORIDA RISING AND
09:45:10AM OTHER GROUPS IN THAT PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COUNCIL
09:45:13AM AND THIS CITY HAS REALLY, REALLY LOOKED AT WHAT WE ARE DOING
09:45:17AM AND MAKING SURE IT IS GOING TO HAVE TEETH TO WORK.
09:45:20AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: HE DO THINK THAT COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED THE
09:45:27AM LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE.
09:45:30AM IT WILL COME BACK AUGUST 4.
09:45:31AM I THINK THAT IS THE TIME -- THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING
09:45:35AM AT THAT POINT IN TIME TO GET PUBLIC INPUT.
09:45:37AM OBVIOUSLY I THINK MISS JOHNS WILL BE WORK WITH THE
09:45:40AM ADMINISTRATION AND FLORIDA RISING AND OTHER INTERESTED FOLKS
09:45:43AM IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT ORDINANCE.
09:45:44AM THERE ARE LIMITS TO WHAT THE CITY CAN DO OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE
09:45:47AM WILL BE WORK WITH THOSE FOLKS.
09:45:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AUGUST 4?
09:45:50AM I WOULD SUGGEST THAT --
09:45:53AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I BELIEVE THAT IS THE DATE.
09:45:56AM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
09:45:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SUGGEST SHE GETS WITH THEM BEFORE AUGUST
09:46:00AM 4.
09:46:00AM >> THAT IS THE PLAN.
09:46:01AM LAST, WEEK, WE WERE ONLY ASKED TO REPORT ON ONLY WHAT MIAMI
09:46:05AM WAS DOING.
09:46:06AM THAT IS WHY WE HAVE NOT MET WITH ANYONE.
09:46:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
09:46:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
09:46:14AM >> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO CLARIFY.
09:46:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, ANY QUESTIONS OR
09:46:18AM COMMENTS?
09:46:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS STILL LOOKING AT THAT.
09:46:24AM ANYWAY, THANK YOU.
09:46:26AM SO, YES.
09:46:28AM I WILL MAKE A MOTION, BUT IF THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE COMING
09:46:32AM BACK, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
09:46:35AM >> I WILL HAND ALL OF THIS OUT TO YOU SO YOU HAVE THE
09:46:37AM ORDINANCE.
09:46:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:46:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS FEELEY.
09:46:42AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, UNCOUNCIL.
09:46:43AM OKAY.
09:46:44AM LET'S GO BACK TO ITEM 6:00.
09:46:48AM NOW I AM IN CONTROL AND WE ARE READY TO ROCK AND ROLL.
09:46:55AM WE ARE EXCITED TO BE HERE THIS MORNING FOR THIS WORKSHOP
09:46:58AM WITH YOU TO GO OVER OUR ONGOING EFFORT WITH HOUSING
09:47:05AM AFFORDABILITY AND A SET OF CITY INITIATED TEXT AMOUNTS THAT
09:47:08AM INCLUDED A FEW AMENDMENTS THAT ARE RELATIVE TO HOUSING AS
09:47:12AM WELL AS A FEW CLEANUP ITEMS.
09:47:13AM AS WE WORK THROUGH EACH OF THE AGENDA ITEMS TODAY, WE WILL
09:47:17AM BE ASKING FOR FEEDBACK AND ACTION BY COUNCIL.
09:47:19AM WE KNOW YOU DON'T NORMALLY TAKE ACTION BUT IN ORDER TO
09:47:24AM ACCELERATE THE CONCEPTS WE ARE PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY, WE
09:47:28AM WILL ASK FOR THE FEEDBACK IN A MOTION IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF
09:47:31AM THESE CONCEPTS MOVING FORWARD.
09:47:34AM WE DON'T -- IN A LOT OF THEM WE WILL TALK TO YOU ON DONE
09:47:37AM SEPTEMBER.
09:47:37AM WE DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT WILL GO IN THE
09:47:41AM CODE.
09:47:41AM BUT THEY ARE ROUGHLY CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WILL COME BACK TO
09:47:44AM YOU.
09:47:44AM IF YOU SAY YES, WE ARE IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD.
09:47:47AM WE WILL GO BACK.
09:47:48AM GET TO WORK AND BRING THOSE SPECIFICS TO YOU IN THE LANGUAGE
09:47:51AM THAT WOULD GO INTO THE CODE.
09:47:55AM AND WE WOULD WORK OVER THE NEXT 60 TO 90 DAYS, WE DEVELOPED
09:48:00AM MUCH OF THE LANGUAGE IS ALREADY DEVELOPED.
09:48:02AM WE WOULD CLEAN THAT UP.
09:48:05AM WE WOULD THEN WORK WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND BRING BACK
09:48:09AM FINAL CONCEPTS TO YOU FOR TRANSMITTAL TO THE PLANNING
09:48:12AM COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY ADOPTION ON THE CODE.
09:48:17AM SO THE DISCUSSION WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS MORNING ON ITEM
09:48:20AM 6 IS GOING TO START WITH HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.
09:48:23AM AND TALK ABOUT FOR FOR AS A SPECIFIED USE.
09:48:25AM OUR BONUS DENSITY THAT YOU HAVE HEARD MUCH ABOUT OVER THE
09:48:30AM PAST YEAR OR SO.
09:48:31AM AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO STEPHEN, AND HE WILL TALK TO YOU
09:48:34AM ABOUT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
09:48:37AM WE HAVE SEVERAL CITY CODE AMENDMENTS, CITY INITIATED.
09:48:41AM AND WE WILL TALK OF THE PRIVATELY INITIATED CODE AMENDMENTS.
09:48:44AM AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN OUR FINAL CYCLE OF THOSE.
09:48:47AM THEY DID TERMINATE.
09:48:48AM JANUARY WAS THE LAST CYCLE THAT IS IN.
09:48:50AM WE HAVE FOUR OF THOSE FOR YOU TODAY AND WE HAVE TWO MORE
09:48:53AM THAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU, WHICH WILL BE EAST TAMPA AND ONE
09:48:56AM ADDITIONAL PRIVATELY INITIATED BY TYLER HUDSON THAT WILL
09:49:01AM COME BACK TO YOU IN EITHER SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER.
09:49:04AM WE WILL TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT THAT.
09:49:08AM AND WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AND THAT WILL CLOSE OUT
09:49:10AM WHAT IS ON THE BOOKS AS THE FINAL PRIVATELY INITIATED
09:49:14AM AMENDMENTS.
09:49:15AM THIS SLIDE I HAVE FOR YOU HERE SHOW YOU ON THE LEFT SIDE
09:49:17AM FOUR OF THE MAYOR'S FIVE 2-3, THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY,
09:49:25AM INFRASTRUCTURE MOBILITY, SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE.
09:49:29AM ON THE LEFT SIDE, I CREATE A COUPLE OF OTHER ICON TO SHOW
09:49:33AM YOU AS WE WORK THROUGH TODAY'S PRESENTATION HOW THESE
09:49:37AM CONCEPTS IMPACT COST, ACCOUNTABILITY, TIME, AND
09:49:41AM TRANSPARENCY.
09:49:42AM SO YOU WILL SEE AS WE TALK THROUGH THESE CONCEPTS YOU WILL
09:49:45AM HAVE THE LITTLE ICONS DOWN ON THE BOTTOM.
09:49:48AM AS WE THOUGHT ABOUT THEM AND HOW THEY IMPACT OUR CITY, THOSE
09:49:51AM WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR YOU.
09:49:53AM SO HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.
09:49:56AM MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE HOUSE BILL 1339 THAT
09:50:00AM ALLOWED -- THAT WAS SIGNED JULY 1, 2020, AND ALLOWS FOR
09:50:05AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE LOCATE IN ANY ZONING DISTRICT, ANY
09:50:11AM LAND USE CATEGORY.
09:50:12AM LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ACROSS THE SOUTH FLORIDA -- NOT MANY --
09:50:15AM HAVE IMPLEMENT THIS IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
09:50:17AM THE WAY WE ARE GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS MORNING IS
09:50:20AM CREATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS A SPECIFIED USE.
09:50:23AM OUR CODE RIGHT NOW HAS 28 SPECIFIED USES AND THEY RANGE FROM
09:50:27AM ROOMING HOUSES AND KENNELS AND OPEN STORAGE, WHEN THE
09:50:31AM MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES CAME IN.
09:50:33AM THOSE BECAME A SPECIFIED USE.
09:50:35AM SPECIFIED USE ARE PERMITTED USES BUT THEY HAVE CONDITIONS OR
09:50:38AM REGULATION THAT'S SPEAK TO HOW THEY OPERATES.
09:50:43AM SO OUR REQUEST WOULD BE TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS A
09:50:47AM SPECIFIED USE.
09:50:47AM WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
09:50:50AM THAT MEAN THAT WE WOULD SET UP A SET OF CRITERIA THAT WILL
09:50:54AM ALLOW FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE SEEK TO DO AT LEAST 80%
09:50:59AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE ABLE TO PROCEED AT AN
09:51:04AM ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL AND SOME TOGETHER AS A DEVELOPMENT
09:51:07AM AGREEMENT THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU.
09:51:09AM IT WOULD NOT REQUIRE THESE PROJECTS TO CONTINUE DOWN THE
09:51:12AM ROAD AS PDs AND GENERAL ZONINGS, AND OPEN UP LAND INVENTORY
09:51:17AM TO CREATE NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING.
09:51:21AM IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW US TO INCENTIVIZE THAT AFFORDABLE
09:51:27AM HOUSING BY ALLOWING FOR REDUCED PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
09:51:30AM WE ARE LOOKING AT ONE SPACE PER UNIT.
09:51:33AM WE'VE APPROVED DESIGN EXCEPTIONS FOR WEST RIVER AND OTHER
09:51:38AM PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME TO THE CITY AS A .8 SPACE.
09:51:43AM WE ALSO DO NOT REQUIRE GUESTS FOR THAT.
09:51:47AM SO THAT WOULD ALLOW MORE LAND TO GO INTO GREEN SPACE.
09:51:53AM AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE AS LARGE OF A SITE TO CREATE
09:51:57AM THESE PROJECTS SO NOT REQUIRED THE MAGNITUDE OF PARKING.
09:52:01AM NOT REQUIRED THE MAGNITUDE OF GREEN SPACE.
09:52:04AM WE ARE LOOKING AT GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS GOING FROM 350 A
09:52:10AM UNITS DOWN TO 100 SQUARE FOOT A UNIT.
09:52:13AM AND ALSO IF THEY WERE TO AGGREGATE THE GREEN SPACE INTO A
09:52:17AM FUNCTIONAL AREA ON THE PROJECT, A PLAYGROUND, WALKING TRAIL,
09:52:20AM SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE COULD INCENTIVIZE IT MORE AND MAKE
09:52:24AM IT 75 SQUARE FEET AN UNIT.
09:52:28AM WE WILL ALSO CREATE -- REQUIRE THE 50-YEAR AFFORDABILITY
09:52:32AM PERIOD TO ENSURE THAT PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH AND
09:52:35AM RECEIVING THESE INCENTIVES ARE COMMITTING TO 50 YEARS OF
09:52:38AM AFFORDABILITY WITHIN THE CITY.
09:52:40AM WHAT WE WOULD DO IS BRING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT -- THAT
09:52:44AM WOULD CONTAIN THE CONDITIONS OF DEVELOPMENT AND A CONCEPT
09:52:48AM SITE PLAN TO YOU FOR ADOPTION THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING
09:52:52AM PROCESS.
09:52:53AM BUT IT WOULDN'T BE THE SAME NINE TO 12-MONTH PROCESS THAT
09:52:59AM A PD IS TAKING.
09:53:00AM IT WOULDN'T BE THE SAME, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS HAVING TO KIND
09:53:04AM OF -- IT WOULD SHORTEN THAT TIME.
09:53:06AM STREAMLINE THE PROCESS, AND IT WOULD INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO
09:53:11AM UNDERTAKE THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
09:53:14AM THIS CONCEPT DOES CONSIDER A 20% MARKET.
09:53:16AM SO 80% MINIMUM AFFORDABLE.
09:53:19AM IF YOU DO 100% AFFORDABLE, THAT'S GREAT, BUT A LOT OF THE
09:53:24AM PROJECTS WE ARE SEEING, MOST OF THE ONES IN WEST RIVER ARE
09:53:27AM 80-20 THAT ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO RECOUP SOME OF THOSE COSTS
09:53:31AM BUT MORE THAN HALF OF THE PROJECT REMAINS AFFORDABLE.
09:53:35AM BENEFITS AND OPPORTUNITIES -- I DID WANT TO GIVE YOU ONE
09:53:39AM EXAMPLE ON THIS
09:53:40AM I RAN THE NUMBERS ON 100 APARTMENT COMPLEX.
09:53:46AM 51 BEDROOMS AND 52 BEDROOMS UNDER STANDARD ZONING, REQUIRED
09:53:54AM 150 PARKING SPACES.
09:53:55AM UNDER THIS SCENARIO IT WOULD BE REQUIRED 100 SPACES.
09:53:59AM RIGHT THERE WHERE WE SEE DEVELOPERS INVEST IN STRUCTURED
09:54:04AM PARKING GARAGES THAT ARE COSTING $15,000 TODAY 20,000 A
09:54:08AM SPACE, THAT WILL BE INCREDIBLE COST SAVINGS FOR THOSE 50
09:54:13AM SPACES.
09:54:13AM IT WILL ALLOW THEM TO PUT MONEY IN OTHER ASPECTS OF THE
09:54:16AM PROJECT.
09:54:16AM THAT SAME 100-UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT NOW WILL BE
09:54:20AM REQUIRED THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE OF GREEN SPACE.
09:54:24AM A LOT OF OUR PROPERTIES AREN'T EVEN THREE QUARTERS OF AN
09:54:27AM ACRE, BUT IN THIS CASE GOING DOWN TO THE HUNDRED SQUARE
09:54:32AM FOOT, IT WOULD BE LESS THAN A QUARTER OF AN ACRE THAT WOULD
09:54:35AM BE REQUIRED TO GO TO GREEN SPACE.
09:54:36AM SO THIS ALLOWS FOR PROJECTS TO HAPPEN ON SMALLER PARCELS AND
09:54:44AM STILL MEET OUR CONTINUING NEEDS OF CREATING INVENTORY.
09:54:46AM SOME OF THE BENEFITS AND OPPORTUNITIES, IT DOES, AS I JUST
09:54:51AM SAID, INCREASE THE LAND INVENTORY.
09:54:54AM REDUCES REQUIREMENTS FOR GOING THROUGH A REZONING AND
09:54:56AM SPECIAL USE.
09:54:56AM IT ALLOWS FOR APPROPRIATE PARKING, GREEN SPACE AND
09:55:00AM SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS FOR THE USE.
09:55:03AM ACHIEVES THAT 50-YEAR AFFORDABILITY PERIOD AND IMPLEMENTED
09:55:07AM THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHICH WOULD BE APPROVED BY
09:55:09AM CITY COUNCIL.
09:55:10AM SO THIS REDUCES TIME AND MONEY SPENT ON THE ENTITLEMENT
09:55:15AM PROCESS AND ALLOW US TO GET OUR INVENTORY INTO CONSTRUCTION
09:55:18AM IN A QUICKER WAY.
09:55:24AM I KNOW I SPOKE QUICKLY.
09:55:26AM IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORT THIS CODE MODIFICATION TO
09:55:30AM CREATE THIS CLASSIFICATION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE WOULD
09:55:33AM REQUEST A MOTION IN FAVOR.
09:55:34AM I WILL ALLOW -- I WILL TURN IT OVER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:55:37AM I THINK WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON EACH OF THESE
09:55:40AM CONCEPTS AND THEN WE WILL TAKE ACTION AND THEN WE WILL GO ON
09:55:44AM TO THE NEXT ITEM.
09:55:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS FEELEY.
09:55:48AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:: AND I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
09:55:50AM SORRY.
09:55:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET ME MAKE THIS STATEMENT FIRST.
09:55:54AM THIS IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SO
09:55:57AM MUCH TODAY.
09:55:57AM IF PEOPLE ONLINE WILL BEAR WITH US FOR THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:56:02AM THIS WILL RUN SMOOTHLY.
09:56:03AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:56:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:56:07AM I APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR TEAM WITH THIS
09:56:10AM PRESENTATION.
09:56:11AM YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS IN THE CITY
09:56:16AM OF TAMPA.
09:56:16AM WE ARE A VICTIM OF OUR OWN SUCCESS.
09:56:18AM BUT YOU MADE QUITE A FEW POINTS THAT MADE SENSE.
09:56:22AM THE COST OF A PARKING SPACE WITHIN A PARKING GARAGE WHICH IS
09:56:26AM RIDICULOUS.
09:56:27AM THE THING IS -- NOT EVERYBODY RELIES ON THE AUTOMOBILE.
09:56:29AM PEOPLE RIDE BIKES.
09:56:31AM PEOPLE WALK.
09:56:31AM PEOPLE WANT THAT LIVE-WORK-PLAY.
09:56:34AM IF THEY ARE LIVING DOWNTOWN OR ON WATER STREET OR CERTAIN
09:56:38AM NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY MAY WANT TO COMMUTE IN A DIFFERENT WAY
09:56:42AM TO WORK.
09:56:42AM CAR INSURANCE IS EXPENSIVE.
09:56:44AM GAS IS EXPENSIVE.
09:56:45AM A CAR PAYMENT IS EX-EXPENSIVE.
09:56:47AM IF YOU ALLOW THE DEVELOPER BY REDUCING PARKING MINIMUMS AND
09:56:52AM EVERYTHING THAT YOU MENTIONED TAKE THAT BURDEN OF COST AWAY,
09:56:55AM THEY CAN APPLY THAT TO MAKING UNITS AFFORDABLE, WHICH, IN
09:57:00AM TURN, GETS TO THE GOAL THAT WE ARE GOING TO REACH.
09:57:04AM I WILL STOP WITH MY COMMENTS NOW.
09:57:06AM I WILL WAIT UNTIL PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:57:08AM AND WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TO SAY.
09:57:11AM BUT I WILL CERTAINLY BE SUPPORTING THIS.
09:57:13AM BECAUSE YOU HAVE TOUCHED ON VARIOUS POINTS.
09:57:16AM 50-YEAR HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.
09:57:20AM THE PARKING.
09:57:21AM SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED NOW RIGHT AWAY.
09:57:23AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:57:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:57:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALSO I THINK THIS IS GREAT, BUT I AM CURIOUS
09:57:31AM HOW WE CAN GO FURTHER.
09:57:32AM YES, 100-UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX, 100 PARKING SPACES.
09:57:38AM IF THAT -- IF THAT UNIT -- IF THOSE APARTMENTS ARE LOCATED
09:57:42AM IN A MUCH MORE DENSE A AREA, CAN WE ENCOURAGE LESS PARKING?
09:57:46AM CAN WE GIVE AN INCENTIVE FOR THAT?
09:57:50AM I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED A COUPLE OF SLIDES BACK WHEN WE
09:57:53AM WERE TALKING OF SINGLE-FAMILY.
09:57:54AM THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE FOR FURTHER OUT, BUT CLOSER TO THE
09:57:59AM CITY CENTER, AND CLOSE TO NODES, JUST AS A GENTLEMAN SPOKE
09:58:03AM THIS MORNING ABOUT IT.
09:58:04AM THAT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE USE.
09:58:07AM HOW DO WE INCENTIVIZE USING HOUSING APPROPRIATELY.
09:58:12AM THAT IS A CONCERN OF MINE BUT OTHERWISE, THERE IS GREAT.
09:58:17AM I AM JUST -- I AM JUST CONCERNED THAT WE AREN'T GOING TO
09:58:21AM MAXIMIZE THE LAND IN THE WAY IT SHOULD BE AND HOW DO WE
09:58:25AM INCENTIVIZE THAT.
09:58:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:58:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GREAT POINT, BECAUSE -- BECAUSE EVERYTHING
09:58:34AM IS IN THE CORE.
09:58:36AM PEOPLE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO GET FROM A TO B.
09:58:41AM AND MY BIGGEST THING WAS LOOKING AT INCLUSIONARY ZONING AS A
09:58:45AM PART OF THAT.
09:58:45AM IF YOU HAVE MORE DENSITY WITHIN, PEOPLE CAN GET PLACES
09:58:49AM CLOSER.
09:58:51AM I TALKED TO MISS TRAVIS BRIEFLY ABOUT THAT.
09:58:53AM AND SHE SAID A LAW THAT IS CHANGED TO LOOK AT THAT.
09:58:59AM AND THAT WILL HELP YOU WITH THE INNER CORE.
09:59:01AM YOU SAY BOX PEOPLE IN, BUT MORE PEOPLE THERE THAT CAN GET TO
09:59:06AM WHAT THEY NEED TO KNOW AND LESS TIME AND AFFORDABILITY.
09:59:08AM THE OTHER QUESTION IS, MAKING SURE WE MET WITH THE DEVELOPER
09:59:12AM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ON BOARD PER SE, BUT GETTING
09:59:18AM MAXIMIZE LOOK AT WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE THIS MOVE.
09:59:22AM A KEY TO THE DEVELOPER.
09:59:25AM IT IS $30,000 A SPACE.
09:59:27AM AND I AM JUST LOOKING AT -- OKAY, MAKING SURE THAT WHATEVER
09:59:34AM -- WHATEVER WE ARE GOING TO DO THEY ARE IN LINE AND I DON'T
09:59:38AM WANT TO PUT IT IN PLACE AND STILL PUSH BACK.
09:59:41AM IF PARKING IS AN ISSUE AND IT IS ONE COMPONENT.
09:59:44AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL COMPONENTS ARE THERE SO WE DON'T GO
09:59:49AM BACK AND WE HAVE EVERYTHING TO MOVE.
09:59:51AM I THINK THAT IS A BIG KEY.
09:59:52AM I SEE A BUNCH OF DEVELOPERS IN THE ROOM NOW THAT ARE
09:59:56AM LOOKING.
09:59:56AM BUT PARKING, I KNOW, IS ONE OF THE KEY POINTS THEY TALK
09:59:59AM ABOUT ALL THE TIME WHEN WE TALK OF AFFORDABILITY.
10:00:03AM INCLUSIONARY ZONING WITHIN AND THE PARKING.
10:00:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:00:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.
10:00:12AM I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU SAID; HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE
10:00:15AM CLARITY.
10:00:15AM I WAS BORN IN TAMPA, AND MY MIND THINKS LIKE MISSOURI.
10:00:20AM YOU MUST SHOW ME.
10:00:21AM I NEED A FACTUAL SHEET WHAT IT COST AS STANDARD TWO-BEDROOM,
10:00:26AM TWO-BATH, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO COMPARE TO A TWO-BEDROOM,
10:00:29AM TWO-BATH, GO DOWN THE LINE WITH THE -- AND SEE WHAT THE
10:00:35AM COSTS ARE FOR THE PAPERWORK AND DOCUMENTATION AND
10:00:39AM CERTIFICATES AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS GOT
10:00:44AM TO DO TO GET THE INSPECTOR TO COME LOOK AT THE PLAN AND SO
10:00:47AM FORTH AND SO ON.
10:00:48AM DO YOU FOLLOW WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY?
10:00:51AM AND AT THE END, I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE COST IS BOUTS ANY
10:00:55AM BENEFITS -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE -- PEOPLE THAT
10:00:59AM REALLY NEED IT, GET IT.
10:01:00AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT COST IS A GREAT DIFFERENCE
10:01:04AM BETWEEN THIS AND THIS.
10:01:05AM AND I BIKE TO SEE BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS -- YES, LET'S SAY
10:01:10AM WE HAVE THE LAND AND THROW THE LAND IN.
10:01:11AM I WANT TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE COSTS ARE FOR THAT
10:01:16AM PROJECT TO SUCCEED, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY
10:01:19AM NEED IT GET IT.
10:01:21AM AND WHEN YOU START TALKING OF REDUCTION OF PARKING.
10:01:24AM I AM NOT AFRAID OF THAT.
10:01:25AM I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THAT.
10:01:27AM BUT WHERE I COME FROM, NO ONE HAD A CAR.
10:01:30AM IT WAS TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
10:01:31AM YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAD A GREAT BUS SYSTEM.
10:01:34AM EVERY 15 OR 20 MINUTES, YOU HAD A BUS.
10:01:37AM NEAT ONE.
10:01:39AM AND FOR THE RECORD, MORE PEOPLE DIE IN THIS COUNTRY FOR HEAT
10:01:43AM OF THEY DO OF ANY TORNADO, IS A HURRICANES OR ANY OTHER
10:01:48AM NATURALABILITIES AS TER.
10:01:50AM I DON'T WANT TO SEE PEOPLE GET A HOUSE AND WAIT HOUR AND A
10:01:54AM HALF TO GET A BUS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY LOST THEIR LIFE.
10:01:57AM THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO WORK ON, NOT ONLY FOR THE
10:02:01AM HOUSE, BUT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TRANSPORT THE PEOPLE IF
10:02:04AM GOING TO BUILD -- AND I AM GLAD THAT YOU ARE.
10:02:06AM I DON'T -- DON'T SAY THAT MIRANDA -- I WANT A COMPLETE
10:02:10AM OPERATION OF TRANSPORTATION.
10:02:12AM I WANT A COMPLETE OF THE COST WITHOUT AND WITH.
10:02:15AM SO THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE GOING.
10:02:19AM AS I READ THIS FURTHER AND FURTHERMORE.
10:02:22AM AND I KNOW WE ARE NOT DISCUSS THIS YET.
10:02:24AM BUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT FLAG ME ON PAGE 19.
10:02:28AM I WON'T GO THERE UNTIL WE GET TO THAT PAGE.
10:02:30AM I AM NOT OPPOSED TO ANYTHING YOU SAID.
10:02:33AM I AGREE WITH IT, BUT WE MUST SHOW THE PUBLIC HOW IT IS GOING
10:02:36AM TO GET DONE.
10:02:37AM AND IN THE OLD DAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?
10:02:41AM THE CITY WOULD TAKE THE TASK ITSELF AND BUILD THE HOUSING
10:02:46AM WITH THEIR OWN MONEY AND COME BACK TO GET THE MONEY THAT YOU
10:02:49AM HAVE YOU.
10:02:49AM IN OTHER WORDS, THE MIDDLE PERSON WOULD BE CUT YOU OUT TO
10:02:53AM GIVE THE PERSON WHO REALLY NEEDS HELP THE HELP THAT THEY
10:02:58AM NEED.
10:02:58AM IN THIS CASE WE ARE NOT DOING THAT.
10:02:59AM >> THIS IS FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY ONLY.
10:03:02AM THIS IS NOT FOR CITY PROPERTY.
10:03:03AM IF A PRIVATE DEVELOPER HAS A PRIVATE PIECE OF LAND AND THEY
10:03:08AM ARE INTERESTED IN PURSUING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT
10:03:10AM WITH AT LEAST 80% OF THE UNITS AFFORDABLE.
10:03:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I CONCUR WITH
10:03:17AM YOU.
10:03:18AM WHAT IS THE CITY DOING ON THE OTHER SIDE WHEN THE PRIVATE
10:03:21AM DEVELOPER IS NOT DOING IT.
10:03:22AM ANYONE ELSE DOING IT BUT THE PRIVATE DEVELOPER?
10:03:26AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO, WE ARE NOT BUILDING OUR OWN UNITS.
10:03:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I STAND TRUE TO WHAT I SAID.
10:03:31AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:03:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:03:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:03:35AM SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
10:03:36AM NUMBER ONE, YOUR FIRST AND SECOND SLIDE SHOW ALL THE T-3
10:03:42AM CRITERIA.
10:03:43AM CITY OF TAMPA HAS BEEN PUSHING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR
10:03:47AM THREE YEARS.
10:03:47AM A SIGN OF COLLABORATION IN PRESENTATION -- IS AN AGENDA ITEM
10:03:50AM THAT CITY COUNCIL PUT ON IT -- MAYBE YOU INITIATED.
10:03:54AM IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE PUBLIC IF IT LOOKED LIKE WE ARE
10:03:57AM COLLABORATING ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING INSTEAD OF CROSS
10:04:01AM PURPOSES.
10:04:01AM A MAJOR ISSUE THAT CITY OF TAMPA HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT A
10:04:06AM LONG TIME AND TAKE T-3 DOESN'T SHOW COLLABORATION.
10:04:10AM THE 80-20 RULE.
10:04:11AM WEST RIVER WAS 100% OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND NOW 20%
10:04:15AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:04:17AM CORRECT?
10:04:18AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SORRY, THAT IS NOT CORRECT.
10:04:19AM ALL THOSE BUILDINGS, THE BOULEVARD, MARY BETHUNE IS 80%
10:04:25AM AFFORDABLE WITH 20% MARKETS RATE.
10:04:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE TEEN TIRE PROJECT --
10:04:32AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THEY HAVEN'T BUILT ANYTHING BUT AFFORDABLE
10:04:36AM TO DATE.
10:04:37AM >>BILL CARSON: MAYBE I REMEMBER THE WRONG PROJECT.
10:04:39AM ROME PROJECT 10 OR 20% AFFORDABLE.
10:04:43AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: 1,000 UNITS AND 868 ARE AFFORDABLE.
10:04:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: SOME OF THOSE ARE NOT AFFORDABLE BUT
10:04:52AM WORKPLACE HOUSING.
10:04:53AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WHEN WE SAY "AFFORDABLE" WE MEAN UP TO
10:04:57AM 140% AMI.
10:04:58AM WEST RIVER HAS A BREAKDOWN OF THAT.
10:05:00AM NOT ALL AT 140.
10:05:03AM THAT IS ONE CRITERIA WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING BACK TO YOU.
10:05:06AM WHEN I SAY 80%, WE DON'T WANT THOSE 80% ALL TO BE AT 140.
10:05:12AM WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE AT DIFFERING TIER TO MAKE SURE THAT
10:05:16AM WE ARE GET TO EACH OF THE INCOME CATEGORIES.
10:05:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK ONE THING TO BE CLEAR WE SHOULD
10:05:22AM IDENTIFY WHAT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHAT IS WORKFORCE
10:05:25AM AND OTHER HOUSING.
10:05:26AM TAMPA CHAMBER WILL ONLY SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:05:30AM THEY WON'T SUPPORT, NECESSARILY, WORK FORCE HOUSING AS I
10:05:34AM UNDERSTAND IT.
10:05:35AM WE CAN SAY 300% OF AMI, RIGHT.
10:05:38AM BUT WHAT IS INITIALLY DESIGNATED AND WHAT IS SEPARATE.
10:05:42AM FOR ME --
10:05:43AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: AFFORDABLE IS A DEFINED TERM UNDER FLORIDA
10:05:47AM LAW.
10:05:47AM I BELIEVE IT IS BETWEEN 80% TO 120% AMI.
10:05:51AM WHAT IS DEEMED TO BE -- AFFORDABLE.
10:05:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE SAY 140 THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THAT
10:05:57AM PARAMETER.
10:05:58AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I SAT ON THE CHAMBER'S WORKFORCE HOUSING
10:06:01AM COMMITTEE.
10:06:01AM AND YOU CAN SPEND A LOT OF TIME DIFFERENTIATING.
10:06:10AM THE 120 AND 140.
10:06:12AM 140 IS WHAT IS AFFORDABLE PLUS A DEFINITION OF THE
10:06:16AM WORKFORCE.
10:06:16AM >>BILL CARSON: I AM IN FAVOR OF WORKING ON WORKFORCE HOUSE.
10:06:20AM IF I CAN DONATE MONEY TO A PROJECT LIKE THAT.
10:06:22AM BUT IF TO BE CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC WHAT COUNTS AS AFFORDABLE
10:06:28AM HOUSING AND WHAT IS OUTSIDE OF THAT.
10:06:30AM ADD 120 OR 140 AND UP TO 200 AND WHATEVER, WE SHOULD SAY TWO
10:06:36AM DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
10:06:36AM NEXT, THE STATE STATUTE.
10:06:39AM WHAT WAS IT 1339.
10:06:41AM I FORGOT THE NUMBER.
10:06:43AM A SPECIFIC CRITERIA WHAT IS DEFINED IN THAT.
10:06:46AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT IS WHERE IT DOES DEFINE LOW, MODERATE
10:06:50AM AND -- LOW-LOW.
10:06:52AM AND GIVES THE AMIs.
10:06:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: IS IT UP TO 120?
10:06:57AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES.
10:06:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW I LOOKED AT THIS A LONG TIME AGO AND
10:07:01AM I DIDN'T HAVE IT MEMORIZED.
10:07:02AM WHAT OTHER CRITERIA BESIDE THE AMI?
10:07:06AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: GIVES YOU ALL VERY, VERY BROAD DISCRETION,
10:07:08AM IT REALLY DOES.
10:07:09AM A TOOL FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO ALLOW FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
10:07:13AM THAT MEETS THE STATUTORY DEFINITION OF WHAT AFFORDABLE
10:07:17AM HOUSING IS VIRTUALLY ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.
10:07:20AM SUBJECT TO THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY'S APPROVAL AND SHE IS
10:07:26AM BRINGING A FRAMEWORK.
10:07:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT TWO SIDES THAT WE NEED
10:07:30AM TO ANSWER.
10:07:31AM A LOT OF PEOPLE REPRESENTING THE INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC.
10:07:33AM ONE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WORK
10:07:38AM FORCE HOUSING.
10:07:38AM WE NEED TO FEEL THAT ISSUE.
10:07:40AM AND NEIGHBORHOODS WILL BE SCARED AND THREATENED BY THIS.
10:07:43AM THE MORE INFORMATION WHAT IS INCLUDED AND WHAT IS NOT WILL
10:07:46AM BE HELPFUL.
10:07:47AM ONE OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY IS -- ESPECIALLY WITH
10:07:49AM THE PRIVATE HOUSING WHICH I THINK WE OUGHT TO PROMOTE MORE
10:07:53AM OF, IS THE TIME LIMITS.
10:07:54AM HOW CAN WE PICK 50 YEARS INSTEAD OF A LARGER NUMBER?
10:07:58AM AND ARE THERE ANY OTHER RESTRICTIONS THAT WE WILL OR COULD
10:08:03AM PUT IN THESE AGREEMENTS?
10:08:05AM OR ORDINANCE?
10:08:07AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO RIGHT NOW, MANY OF OUR PROGRAMS ARE TEN
10:08:10AM YEARS ON SINGLE FAMILY.
10:08:11AM SOME OF THEM THEM GO TO 30 YEARS.
10:08:14AM THE STATE WHICH FUNDS CERTAIN THINGS ARE AT 99 YEARS.
10:08:18AM SO THAT -- THAT IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
10:08:20AM WE HAVE NOT MET WITH STAKEHOLDERS YET.
10:08:23AM BECAUSE I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE AN ISSUE TO STAKEHOLDER
10:08:26AM THAT'S I THINK COUNCIL IS NOT IN FAVOR OF.
10:08:28AM THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE CONCEPT.
10:08:31AM SEE WHERE WE ARE.
10:08:32AM IF WE ARE IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS FORWARD IN SOME CAPACITY,
10:08:36AM WE ARE THEN GOING TO GO MEET WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND THE
10:08:38AM OTHERS.
10:08:39AM WE PRESENT THIS IN CONCEPT YESTERDAY AT THE AHAC IN THE
10:08:43AM AFTERNOON WHICH INCLUDES SEVERAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING
10:08:46AM DEVELOPERS.
10:08:47AM AND THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF THESE CONCEPTS MOVING FORWARD.
10:08:49AM THEY MADE A MOTION TO BRING TO YOU.
10:08:53AM SO -- WE NEED TO START SOMEWHERE AND THEN WE CAN ADJUST FROM
10:08:57AM THERE.
10:08:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: ON ONE HAND, THE GROUPS THAT ARE INTERESTED
10:09:01AM IN PROTECTING PEOPLE WHO WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WANT THE
10:09:03AM NUMBER TO BE AS LONG.
10:09:04AM 50 IS BETTER THAN 20 OR 25 WHICH I HEARD OF BEFORE.
10:09:08AM BUT THE QUESTION IS, ANY OTHER RESTRICTIONS THAT WE CAN PUT
10:09:12AM IN THERE?
10:09:12AM I KNOW AFFORDABLE.
10:09:13AM PRIVATE DEVELOPERS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:09:16AM I TALKED TO THEM AND THEY FELT FRUSTRATED.
10:09:18AM NOT THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS BUT IN THE PAST THAT CERTAIN
10:09:23AM DEVELOPERS GOT PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.
10:09:25AM AND YOU ALL HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIX THAT.
10:09:28AM AND MAKE SURE IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND AS MANY PEOPLE AS
10:09:32AM POSSIBLE WILL BE ALLOW TO DEVELOP THIS.
10:09:34AM WILL THESE PROJECTS BE SUBJECTS TO OTHER CODE STANDARDS,
10:09:38AM BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, TO THE EXTENT THERE IS AN OVERLAY
10:09:42AM DISTRICT?
10:09:43AM ANY AESTHETICS LIKE IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD ONE ON 7th
10:09:48AM AVENUE, FOR EXAMPLE.
10:09:49AM DOES IT HAVE TO MEET THE BARRIO CONDITIONS?
10:09:53AM WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT.
10:09:56AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:: THIS DOES NOT EXEMPT ANYONE FROM THE DESIGN
10:10:00AM DISTRICTS IF THEY ARE LOCATED IN THE DESIGN DISTRICTS.
10:10:03AM LET'S ME REITERATE.
10:10:05AM FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.
10:10:07AM NOT FOR RFPs COMING TO THE CITY.
10:10:11AM IF YOU OWN TWO ACRES ON EAST SCHOOL BUS COMBUST AND YOU SAY
10:10:15AM I WANT TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:10:16AM 80 UNITS ARE GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE, IT IS A SPECIFIED USE
10:10:20AM THAT GOES IN THE CODE THAT IS OPEN TO EVERYONE.
10:10:23AM >>BILL CARSON: THAT IS WHY THERE WOULD BE A CONCERN.
10:10:25AM FOR EXAMPLE, A LOT OF US SPEND TIME IN YBOR AND SOMEBODY ON
10:10:29AM 7th AVENUE WE WILL BUILD AN ULTRA MODERN BUILDING THAT
10:10:33AM WOULDN'T FIT THE BARRIO GUIDELINES.
10:10:35AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEIGHBORHOODS WILL BE -- WHETHER IT
10:10:37AM WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE AESTHETIC AND OTHER CODE GUIDELINES.
10:10:41AM LAST QUESTION.
10:10:42AM I MEAN, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IF WE PASS THIS ORDINANCE A
10:10:46AM ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION SIMILAR TO DOWNTOWN.
10:10:48AM NONE OF THESE WILL COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
10:10:52AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO, SIR, THEY WILL ALL COME TO YOU.
10:10:53AM THEY WILL NOT COME AS QUASI JUDICIAL HEARINGS LIKE A ZONING.
10:10:58AM THEY WILL COME IN THE FORM OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH A
10:11:00AM SITE PLAN.
10:11:01AM THE HOUSE BILL REQUIRES THAT THE GOVERNING BODY APPROVE
10:11:05AM THESE.
10:11:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
10:11:07AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:: WHAT WE ARE DOING IS ATTEMPT TO CREATE A
10:11:11AM STREAMED LINE PROCESS SINCE THIS IS OUR PRIORITY, YOURS,
10:11:14AM OURS AND EVERYBODY IN THE CITY TO LOOK AT OPENING UP
10:11:17AM ADDITIONAL LANDS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, A FASTER PROCESS.
10:11:20AM I MEAN WHEN YOU ARE APPROVING A PROJECT HERE ON A THURSDAY
10:11:23AM NIGHT, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SEE THAT PROJECT FOR 18 TO 24
10:11:27AM MONTHS BY ITS TIME IT GOES TO PERMITTING AND GETS FINANCING
10:11:30AM AND COMES OUT OF THE GROUND.
10:11:31AM AND IF WE CAN CUT DOWN THAT FIRST, YOU KNOW, PERIOD OF NINE
10:11:35AM MONTHS BY SAYING, IF YOU COMPLY WITH THESE CRITERIA, WE ARE
10:11:39AM GOING TO GET YOU UP THERE AND WE WILL GET YOU GOING.
10:11:41AM THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY.
10:11:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: IN TERMS OF MEETING WITH THE PUBLIC.
10:11:48AM WE DEFINITELY NEED TO MEET WITH DEVELOPERS AND ACCELERATE
10:11:52AM THE PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENTS AND THESE THINGS.
10:11:54AM PRIVATE SECTOR COMPLAINS OF HOW THE HOUSING AUTHORITY MONEY
10:11:59AM IS LOGJAMMED THERE.
10:12:00AM THEY WOULD RATHER THE HOUSING AUTHORITY NOT BE A DEVELOPER
10:12:04AM BUT BE A DISTRIBUTOR OF MONEY BECAUSE SEEMS LIKE A LIMITED
10:12:08AM NUMBER OF DEVELOPERS GET TO PARTNER WITH HIM.
10:12:10AM IF WE CAN ACCELERATE THE PROCESS OF GETTING PRIVATE SECTOR
10:12:13AM DEVELOPMENT.
10:12:15AM THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
10:12:16AM BUT AT THE SAME TIME, MEET WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
10:12:18AM CONSTITUENTS.
10:12:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CARLSON, I BELIEVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
10:12:23AM HAS A QUESTION.
10:12:24AM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:12:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT I WOULD -- I
10:12:34AM AM ALSO INTERESTED IN COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S POINT OF
10:12:41AM INCENTIVIZING THESE DEVELOPERS TO DO MORE FOR PEOPLE OF
10:12:45AM DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES OF AMI.
10:12:48AM SO IN COMING TO US, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE INSTEAD OF JUST
10:12:52AM SAYING THERE WILL BE 140%.
10:12:55AM WHEN THESE COME TO US, WHICH -- HOW MANY OUT OF EACH BUCKET
10:13:00AM AND HOW WE CAN INCENTIVIZE WHEN THEY ARE PUTTING AFFORDABLE
10:13:03AM HOUSING TO NOT JUST DO 140.
10:13:06AM WHAT CAN WE TO DO INCENTIVIZE THEM TO INCLUDE PARTS OF EACH
10:13:11AM BUCKET.
10:13:11AM I BELIEVE THERE ARE THREE BUCKETS.
10:13:14AM AM I -- THREE, FOUR, SOMETHING IN THAT --
10:13:18AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: 50, 80 AND 120 TYPICALLY.
10:13:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO YES.
10:13:22AM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN TO DO ENCOURAGE A LITTLE BIT
10:13:25AM OF EVERYTHING.
10:13:28AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: UNDERSTOOD.
10:13:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:13:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:13:32AM AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I -- I THINK WE ALL SUPPORT 110%.
10:13:37AM I ALWAYS SAY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS ISSUE INVOLVING OUR
10:13:40AM HOUSING CRISIS, THAT IT SEEMS RENTAL COST AND HOUSING COSTS
10:13:44AM GO UP A THIRD OVER THE LAST YEAR.
10:13:46AM WE HAVE $5 GAS, 10% INFLATION.
10:13:49AM THAT WE NEED TO LOOK WHAT IS CALLED "EMERGENCY CARE" WHICH
10:13:54AM IS WHAT WE ARE DOING FOR IMMEDIATE HOUSE FOR PEOPLE AND ALSO
10:13:56AM LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS.
10:13:57AM THESE PROPOSALS GIVE LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS, ALSO INVOLVING THE
10:14:02AM PRIVATE MARKET BECAUSE WE HAVE TO STATE THE OBVIOUS, WHICH
10:14:05AM IS THERE IS A NEED OUT THERE.
10:14:06AM AND THE MARKET IS GOING TO RESPOND TO THAT NEED, RIGHT.
10:14:09AM THERE IS A NEED ON BEHALF OF THE POOR, THE WORKING POOR.
10:14:14AM MIDDLE CLASS.
10:14:15AM THOSE WORKING HARD TO GET IN THE MIDDLE CLASS AND WE ARE
10:14:18AM TRYING TO CRAFT LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS SUCH THAT THE PRIVATE
10:14:22AM SECTOR IS ENCOURAGED TO RESPOND TO A NEED AND WHATNOT.
10:14:26AM WE TALK A LOT ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING VERSUS AFFORDABLE
10:14:30AM HOUSING.
10:14:30AM AND FOR ME, WE NEED TO HAVE A VISION, YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY FOR
10:14:34AM BOTH.
10:14:35AM WE ALL 110% SUPPORT THAT.
10:14:37AM THE -- THE FOLKS WHO ARE WORKING HARD EVERY SINGLE DAY,
10:14:41AM MINIMUM WAGE, YOU KNOW, THE CNAs, ETC., ETC., THEY HAVE BEEN
10:14:47AM LONG PRICE $OUT OF THE AMERICAN DREAM ON SO MANY ISSUE WITH
10:14:50AM HEALTH CARE, COLLEGE, HOUSING, ETC., ETC., AND ONLY GETTING
10:14:54AM WORSE.
10:14:55AM YOU ALSO TALK TO PEOPLE -- I WAS AT -- AT A FIRE STATION ON
10:14:59AM FATHER'S DAY AND TALK TO SOME FIRE FIGHTERS HERE WHO START
10:15:03AM OUT AT ABOUT $45,000 A YEAR.
10:15:05AM YOU KNOW FOR THEM TO BREAK INTO THE CITY OF TAMPA AREA
10:15:08AM HOUSING MARKET IS QUICKLY BECOMING A LOST DREAM.
10:15:13AM NOT LONG AGO, THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED A VERY ROBUST
10:15:17AM APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE AND PEOPLE BEING WELDERS AND
10:15:21AM ELECTRICAL WORKERS AND CARPENTERS.
10:15:24AM AND I OFTEN TELL YOUNG PEOPLE YOU DO THAT, YOU CAN EARN
10:15:29AM $50,000, $60,000, $70,000, THOSE PEOPLE ARE BEING PRICED
10:15:34AM OUTS OF OUR HOUSING MARKET.
10:15:36AM WE LOOK AT THE HOUSING MARKET MUCH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:15:39AM I DON'T WANT TAMPA TO BE MIAMI AND SOUTH FLORIDA WHEN IT
10:15:41AM COMES TO PRICING OUTS EVERYBODY BUT THE UPPER MIDDLE CLASS
10:15:44AM AND UPPER CLASS.
10:15:49AM AND BY ENCOURAGING THESE IDEAS, ENCOURAGING THE PRIVATE
10:15:53AM SECTOR TO RESPOND TO THE BASIC NEEDS OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC
10:15:56AM BECAUSE THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT WHEN --
10:15:59AM THAT IS WHAT THIS CREATES A PATHWAY FOR.
10:16:02AM SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL AVENUES AT SUPPORTING PEOPLE WHO
10:16:06AM ARE PRICED OUT OF THE MARKET AND PEOPLE LONG PRICED OUT OF
10:16:10AM THE MARKETS FALLING 30 MILES BEHIND AND NOW 300 MILES
10:16:13AM BEHIND.
10:16:14AM PEOPLE IN THE BOTTOM THIRD OF OUR ECONOMY.
10:16:16AM SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT -- THAT I SUPPORT AND I THANK YOU
10:16:20AM ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON IT.
10:16:21AM THANK YOU.
10:16:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:16:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:16:26AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONE MORE SHOT AT THIS.
10:16:28AM YOU KNOW MR. MIRANDA HAS BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.
10:16:30AM AND I LISTEN TO A FEW THINGS HE SAID EARLIER.
10:16:34AM WHERE GOVERNMENT WAS BUILDING FOR THE POOR.
10:16:39AM WHEN I LOOK AT A BUSINESS AND A PRIVATE BUSINESS, THEY ARE
10:16:46AM OUT TO MAKE MONEY.
10:16:48AM IT'S A GOAL.
10:16:49AM AND THAT'S GREAT.
10:16:51AM AND MR. VIERA SAID, YOU GOT TO HAVE ALL KINDS OF PARTNERS
10:16:54AM DOING WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO MAKE IT WORK, BUT I AM OF THE
10:16:57AM IMPRESSION THAT WE NEED THE PRIVATE SECT TO HELP.
10:17:00AM BUT GOVERNMENT HAS TO DO ITS PART TOO.
10:17:04AM MY THING IS, WHY AREN'T WE BUILDING AFFORDABLE -- WHY ARE WE
10:17:08AM NOT BUILDING?
10:17:09AM I KNOW MISS TRAVIS SHAKING HER HEAD.
10:17:10AM I SEE HER SHAKING HER HEAD, BUT I LOOK AT -- THEY ARE DOING
10:17:15AM WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
10:17:16AM AND WE HELPED THEM AS WELL.
10:17:18AM BUT WHERE DO WE COME UP TO BUILDING AS WELL.
10:17:21AM WE BOND FOR PIPES.
10:17:23AM WE BOND NOR AND THAT.
10:17:26AM HOUSING IS AN ESSENTIAL NEED FOR PEOPLE NOW.
10:17:28AM SO I AM WONDERING LOOKING AT THE BALANCE OF THAT OF THE
10:17:32AM PRIVATE BUT ALSO GOVERNMENT SAYING WHAT ARE WE BUILDING TO
10:17:35AM HELP THIS CRISIS AS WELL BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE BOTH TO DO IT.
10:17:38AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD MORNING, NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR
10:17:43AM OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:17:44AM UP SEE ME SHAKING MY HEAD.
10:17:46AM JUST FROM EXPERIENCE AND I'M GOING TO BE VERY CANDID WITH
10:17:49AM YOU, AND YOU HAVE SEEN IT ON GOVERNMENT-FUNDED PROJECTS, ANY
10:17:54AM TIME YOU PUT OUT AN RFP AND WE ARE THE DEVELOPER AND
10:17:58AM BUILDING, YOUR PRICE INCREASES 33% TO 45%.
10:18:01AM JUST AS GENERAL RULE, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS SHOULD NOT BE IN THE
10:18:04AM DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS, BECAUSE WE CAN'T -- WE WON'T BE ABLE
10:18:09AM TO AFFORD IT.
10:18:09AM I AM NOT SAYING THERE IS NOT -- IF WE BUILD ENOUGH -- IF WE
10:18:13AM BUILD HOUSING THAT WE ARE -- IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK FOR OUR
10:18:19AM CITIZENS.
10:18:20AM IT ABSOLUTELY WILL.
10:18:21AM BUT CAN WE FINANCE OUR WAY OUT OF THE PROBLEM?
10:18:25AM I DON'T THINK SO.
10:18:25AM SO INSTEAD, WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHAT YOU HAVE ALLOWED US
10:18:30AM TO DO THROUGH YOUR BUDGET PROCESS IS -- WITH USING ARPA
10:18:34AM MONEY, GO AFTER PRIVATELY OWNED LAND, ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY,
10:18:38AM AND PUT OUT A RFP AND DO HOUSING.
10:18:42AM EVERY ASSET THAT THE CITY OWNS, WE ARE USING AND TURNING IT
10:18:47AM OVER FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:18:48AM THAT IS A WAY FOR THE PRIVATE MARKET -- SO WE ARE NOT
10:18:52AM BONDING OURSELVES INTO SOMETHING WE CAN'T BUILD OUR WAY OUT
10:18:55AM OF.
10:18:55AM IF WE WERE TO BOND FOR A PROJECT, YOUR COSTS WOULD BE HIGH
10:18:59AM AND STILL NOT ENOUGH UNITS.
10:19:00AM HOW DO YOU USE ALL THESE OTHER?
10:19:03AM HOW DO WE COME ALONGSIDE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY THAT IS IN
10:19:07AM THE HOUSING BUSINESS?
10:19:08AM HOW DO WE COME ALONGSIDE WITH THEM TO DO THE WORK?
10:19:12AM IT IS NO THE TO SAY IF YOU WERE TO ALLOCATE MONEY FOR US TO
10:19:15AM DEVELOP A PROJECT THAT WE CAN DO THAT.
10:19:17AM ABSOLUTELY WE CAN DO THAT AND HELP THE CITIZENS.
10:19:19AM WILL IT BE ENOUGH?
10:19:20AM NO.
10:19:20AM WILL IT HAPPEN FAST ENOUGH?
10:19:22AM NO.
10:19:22AM JUST BECAUSE IN GOVERNMENT TEAM, THINGS TAKE LONGER.
10:19:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVES VERY SLOW AROUND HERE.
10:19:32AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: MOVES FASTER IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR.
10:19:38AM AND THE COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILWOMAN
10:19:43AM HURTAK.
10:19:43AM HOW DO WE INCENTIVIZE.
10:19:45AM THERE IS ABSOLUTELY A WAY TO DO THAT.
10:19:47AM WE -- WE WERE TALKING BACK AND FORTH ON SOME IDEAS THAT WE
10:19:51AM WERE HAVING AS YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS.
10:19:53AM A WHEN WE BRING THIS BACK TO YOU, WHAT YOU SHOULD LOOK AT IN
10:19:56AM THE PRESENTATION TODAY AND THIS ONE, LOW HANGING FRUIT FROM
10:20:00AM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE FROM A LEGISLATIVE BODY THAT YOU CAN
10:20:03AM HELP TAKE TO ACCELERATE FURTHER HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.
10:20:07AM YOU HAVE PUT MONEY TO PROGRAMS.
10:20:09AM WE STOOD UP TO THE CALL CENTER TO TRY TO GET THROUGH SOME OF
10:20:14AM THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CALLED US.
10:20:16AM WE ARE DOING OUTREACH EFFORTS.
10:20:18AM A LEGISLATIVE PERSPECTIVE AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY.
10:20:21AM THESE ARE THINGS THAT YOU CAN CHANGE TO HELP US ACCELERATE
10:20:24AM HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.
10:20:25AM SO WITH THE HOUSING CRISIS, IT IS NOT JUST PRICING, IT IS
10:20:33AM ALSO SUPPLY AND ACCESS.
10:20:34AM SOME OF THE THINGS YOU ARE SEEING IN THE PRESENTATION TODAY
10:20:37AM IS HOW DO WE INCREASE THAT INVENTORY.
10:20:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: PRIVATE DEVELOPER.
10:20:49AM TO MEET WITH THEM SO WE CAN BUILD.
10:20:52AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ABSOLUTELY.
10:20:53AM YOU MIGHT HEAR SOME OF THIS FROM ABBYE AS SHE GOES FURTHER
10:20:58AM IN THE PRESENTATION.
10:20:58AM WE HAVE DEVELOPERS LOOKING AT THIS NEW HOUSE BILL.
10:21:01AM AND SO WE THINK THAT IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE AN
10:21:05AM ORDINANCE, WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TWO PROJECTS THAT MAYBE
10:21:09AM READY TO COME ON TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS.
10:21:11AM BUT I AGREE TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WHO WAS TALKING ABOUT NO
10:21:16AM ONE HAD A CAR BACK THEN.
10:21:18AM AND EVERYBODY WALKED.
10:21:19AM AND BEING IN NODES OF TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS.
10:21:22AM ABSOLUTELY.
10:21:23AM THAT IS PROBABLY A WAY FOR US -- IF YOU ARE X NUMBER MILES,
10:21:30AM 8th OF A MILE A QUARTER OF A MILE.
10:21:35AM WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK ON THOSE THINGS TO TAKE IT A STEP
10:21:38AM FURTHER.
10:21:40AM THE FEEDBACK IS ABSOLUTELY HELPFUL FOR US TO SHAPE THE DRAFT
10:21:43AM ORDINANCE WE WILL BRING BACK TO YOU AFTER TALK TO THE
10:21:45AM DEVELOPERS.
10:21:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE MR. STONEBERG IN THE BACK AND HE HAS
10:21:51AM GREAT IDEAS HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
10:21:54AM HOPE HE WILL BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE HE KNOWS
10:21:58AM HOUSING VERY WELL.
10:22:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:22:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO.
10:22:06AM AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:22:07AM EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD A COMPONENT OF 10% OF WHATEVER IT IS
10:22:11AM THAT -- THAT THAT UNIT WAS FOR SUCH AN AMOUNT OF PRICE, NOT
10:22:15AM WHAT THE ACTUAL PRICE IT FOR THE UNITS.
10:22:18AM BY UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:22:19AM HOWEVER WHAT I WANT TO SEE IN BUILDING OF HOUSING IS THAT
10:22:23AM WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN AND THEY COST -- AGAIN, MY MIND
10:22:29AM WANDERING AROUND SAYING WHAT IF, WHAT IF, AND WHAT IF.
10:22:33AM WHAT IS THE ACTUAL COST TO THE HOMEOWNER NO MATTER THE
10:22:38AM 80% AMI OR 100% AMI OF THAT RENTAL UNIT, ONE OR THE OTHER,
10:22:44AM MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.
10:22:45AM AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT IS THE TOTAL COST TO SOMEBODY TO
10:22:48AM GET INTO THAT UNIT REGARDING ANYTHING INCLUDING THE
10:22:53AM INSURANCE, THE COST OF ELECTRICITY.
10:22:58AM ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE SOLAR?
10:23:02AM COMPLEMENT SOME UNITS?
10:23:03AM AND SOLAR -- AND A PRICE BREAK OF HOW TO GET IT.
10:23:07AM BECAUSE THE COST OF LIVING THERE BECOMES LIVABLE.
10:23:11AM LIVABLE TODAY BUT SIX MONTHS AND A YEAR FROM NOW, GUESS
10:23:14AM WHAT, THE SAME PEOPLE WE ARE HELPING MAY BE OUT ON THE
10:23:16AM STREET, BECAUSE THE COMPONENTS OF IT ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
10:23:19AM WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE IN A CRISIS TODAY.
10:23:22AM YOU KNOW IT.
10:23:23AM I KNOW IT.
10:23:24AM EVERYBODY KNOWS IT.
10:23:25AM I DON'T HAVE TO SAY THAT.
10:23:26AM WHAT ARE WE DOING TO REDUCE THE EXTRA COST OF LIVING THERE.
10:23:29AM NOT ONLY IN THE PRICE OF GETTING IN, NOT ONLY --
10:23:33AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: BEING ABLE TO STAY THERE.
10:23:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR ANYTHING TO HELP
10:23:38AM THE CITY AND HELP THE HOMEOWNER.
10:23:41AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I AM CONFIDENT WITH THE FEEDBACK YOU ARE
10:23:45AM GIVING US ONCE WE TALK TO THE DEVELOPERS COME UP WITH A
10:23:48AM TIERED APPROACH THAT ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE A BASE DEVELOPMENT
10:23:51AM AGREEMENT WITH A SPECIFIED USE.
10:23:53AM GET THAT THROUGH THE DOOR.
10:23:54AM BUT FOR ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES, WE WILL HAVE THINGS BUILT IN.
10:23:59AM REMEMBER, THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT -- THAT WILL
10:24:03AM BE COMING BACK TO YOU.
10:24:03AM IF WE HAVE THOSE THINGS BUILT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT
10:24:06AM AGREEMENT, I AM CONFIDENT WE CAN FURTHER INCENTIVIZE
10:24:12AM PROJECTS THAT --
10:24:13AM >> WE CAN SHARE NUMBERS.
10:24:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE SOMETHING AND MAKE
10:24:17AM BETTER LIVING CONDITIONS FOR ALL AND SAVE THE ENVIRONMENTS
10:24:20AM AND NOT PULL DOWN TREES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
10:24:23AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ABSOLUTELY.
10:24:24AM THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS.
10:24:26AM WE HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE IN THIS THAT WE CAN SHARE SOME
10:24:29AM NUMBERS AND GIVE YOU SOME GENERAL IDEA OF PARAMETER WHAT IS
10:24:34AM WE ARE LOOKING AT.
10:24:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH.
10:24:38AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:24:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
10:24:40AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:24:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: 30 SECONDS.
10:24:43AM WHAT I WAS SAYING AT THE END IN TERMS OF -- PLEASE DON'T
10:24:46AM FORGET THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
10:24:47AM THEY REALLY NEED TO BE A PART OF IT.
10:24:49AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, FOR SURE.
10:24:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: OTHER THING TO RESPOND TO COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:24:53AM I THINK THE CITY ESPECIALLY WILL NOT HAVE THE RESOURCE TO
10:24:56AM BUILD ALL THE UNITS THAT WE NEED TO BUILD AND THE HOUSING
10:24:59AM AUTHORITY CERTAINLY DOESN'T HAVE IT.
10:25:00AM WE NEED TO TAKE LIMITED -- VERY LIMITED RESOURCE AND DOLLARS
10:25:05AM AND TIME AND LAND AND LEVERAGE THE EXPERTISE OF THE PRIVATE
10:25:08AM SECTOR.
10:25:09AM WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DO THAT.
10:25:11AM THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF OBSTACLES TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR
10:25:14AM DEVELOPING AND THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT AND I PASS ON PUSH
10:25:20AM THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT I GET IS THE LACK OF CONSISTENCY
10:25:25AM THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
10:25:26AM I KNOW YOU ARE BOTH WORKING TO FIX THAT, BUT IN THE PAST AND
10:25:29AM EVEN RECENTLY, THERE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINTS OF DECISIONS BEING
10:25:32AM ARBITRARY.
10:25:33AM AND SOME PROJECTS MOVING FARTHER AND OTHERS.
10:25:37AM A MARKET TIMING OF WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE MARKET AND
10:25:40AM EVERYTHING.
10:25:41AM AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TREAT THE DEVELOPERS BIG
10:25:44AM AND SMALL EQUALLY AND THAT WE -- THAT WE TREAT THEM
10:25:48AM PROFESSIONALLY AND WE MOVE PROJECTS THROUGH CORRECTLY.
10:25:51AM AND I KNOW YOU ARE WORKING HARD TO DO THAT.
10:25:54AM IF WE DO THAT AND FIX ISSUES ALONG WITH THIS, WE WILL
10:25:57AM RAPIDLY SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
10:25:59AM THANK YOU.
10:25:59AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
10:26:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PUBLIC
10:26:03AM COMMENT CONCERNING THIS PART -- THIS PART OF AGENDA ITEM
10:26:08AM NUMBER 6.
10:26:10AM PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.
10:26:16AM >> HELLO, MY NAME IS NATHAN HAGAN.
10:26:20AM THIS IT PROBABLY OBVIOUS AND I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT I CAN
10:26:23AM SPEAK AGAIN FOR OTHER PORTIONS OF THE SAME ITEM.
10:26:25AM THING IS GREAT.
10:26:27AM LET'S SEE.
10:26:27AM I AM SUPPORTIVE.
10:26:29AM I AM ESPECIALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
10:26:34AM MENTIONED ABOUT -- OR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MENTION ABOUT
10:26:36AM PARKING.
10:26:37AM I THINK WE SHOULD BE TALKING OF ELIMINATING ALL PARKING
10:26:40AM REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE WALKING SHED OF BUS ROUTES.
10:26:48AM WE SHOULD TALK OF ELIMINATING PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
10:26:51AM I ALSO THINK ONE INSTANT EXAMPLE WHY THIS MAY MAKE A
10:26:55AM DIFFERENCE IS STUDENT HOUSING NEAR USF.
10:26:58AM STUDENTS DON'T NEED TO BE DRIVING ALL AROUND THE COUNTY.
10:27:01AM ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE OF PEOPLE WHO CAN GET BY WITHOUT ONE
10:27:04AM PARKING UNIT FOR EVERY PERSON THERE.
10:27:07AM I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TEXT THAT EVENTUALLY WILL
10:27:10AM COME UP.
10:27:11AM ONE IS, I AM NOT SURE HOW MIXED USE FITS IN WITH THIS.
10:27:14AM A QUESTION THAT I WOULD APPRECIATE SOMEBODY ASKING.
10:27:18AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS ALLOWED AT ALL OR A WAY TO
10:27:23AM INCENTIVIZE.
10:27:24AM THIS IS NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL, CAN COUNCIL NEGOTIATE ON THE
10:27:28AM BREAKDOWNS.
10:27:29AM WHAT KINDS OF AFFORDABILITY, IF COUNCIL IS ALLOW TO VOTE ON
10:27:32AM IT AND NOT QUASI JUDICIAL, I AM INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT THE
10:27:36AM PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
10:27:37AM AND MUSING ON A UNRELATED SUBJECT THAT COME UP HERE ON
10:27:42AM PUBLIC HOUSING.
10:27:43AM I GOT BACK FROM EUROPE AND I LEARNED A LOT OF INTERESTING
10:27:46AM THINGS WHAT THEY DO THERE.
10:27:48AM THEY DO A LOT OF SOCIAL HOUSING AND WORKS FOR THEM.
10:27:51AM ONE THING I HAVE BEEN FLOATING AROUND THAT I HAVEN'T GOTTEN
10:27:54AM FEEDBACK IS THE CITY PIGGY BACKING ON MAJOR PROJECTS.
10:27:58AM CITY'S PROGRAM GIVING AWAY ONE HOME.
10:28:01AM AND A PROJECT FOR 300.
10:28:04AM WHAT IS YOUR MARGINAL FOR 20 UNITS AND WE WANT TO PAY FOR
10:28:08AM THE 20 UNITS BEYOND -- KIND OF COMPLICATED AND I DON'T KNOW
10:28:12AM IF THAT HAS BEEN CONSIDERED.
10:28:14AM BUT FLOAT IN MY MIND.
10:28:15AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:28:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY ELSE IN CHAMBER THAT'S WOULD LIKE TO
10:28:21AM MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THIS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM?
10:28:28AM >> HI, CAROL BAIRD.
10:28:33AM AND WE ARE A NONPROFIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER.
10:28:37AM I THINK ANYTHING YOU THANK YOU GUYS CAN TO DO MOVE THE
10:28:39AM PROCESS ALONG FASTER IS HELPFUL.
10:28:41AM A LOT OF TIMES PROJECTS OR DEALS ARE KILLED BECAUSE THE
10:28:45AM TIMING ISN'T FAST ENOUGH.
10:28:46AM WE CAN'T -- CAN'T MOVE FAST ENOUGH TO GET A PROPERTY READY
10:28:50AM TO SAY THAT IT IS ZONED PROPERLY WHEN WE ARE GOING TO GO
10:28:54AM AFTER RFAs, THE FLORIDA FINANCE CORPORATION OFFERS.
10:28:59AM I THINK THAT -- SO ANYTHING THAT SHE IS DOING AND TALKING
10:29:02AM ABOUT TO MOVE FORWARD IS HELPFUL FOR US.
10:29:04AM AND WHEN YOU ARE DOING -- I THINK SOMEBODY HAD SAID
10:29:08AM SOMETHING OF BEING CLOSE TO A BUS STOP AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:29:12AM DEVELOPERS LIKE OURSELVES THAT ARE GOING AFTER FUNDING FROM
10:29:14AM FLORIDA FINANCE CORPORATION AND THERFA, IT REQUIRES SCORE
10:29:18AM THAT HAS TO DO WITH HOW CLOSE IT IS TO EVERYTHING.
10:29:21AM SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE
10:29:24AM USING YOUR FUNDING TO -- YOU KNOW, TO HELP PROJECTS THAT ARE
10:29:29AM BRING IN FUNDING INTO THIS -- INTO.
10:29:33AM HE WE JUST -- TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW.
10:29:36AM THE HUGEST PROBLEM WE ARE HAVING RIGHT NOW IS THE COST OF
10:29:39AM CONSTRUCTION.
10:29:40AM WHEN WE BID A PROJECT IN MARIANNA RECENTLY, IT WAS $5
10:29:44AM MILLION.
10:29:44AM WE GOT BACK CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND $11 MILLION RIGHT NOW.
10:29:49AM MAKING THINGS QUICKER IS -- YOU KNOW, WE LOST -- WE ARE
10:29:57AM LOSING THAT MUCH MONEY ON A PROJECT THAT SHOULD HAVE COST US
10:30:00AM $5 MILLION AND THE PROJECT IS SLOW AND MOVING THINGS QUICKLY
10:30:03AM IS HELPFUL FOR THE DEVELOPERS AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF
10:30:06AM EVERYTHING THEY ARE TRYING TO DO TO DO THAT.
10:30:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:30:09AM ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
10:30:12AM ANYONE ONLINE.
10:30:14AM >>CLERK: WE HAVE SIX REGISTERED SPEAKERS AND ONLY TWO.
10:30:18AM JEAN STROHMEYER.
10:30:22AM IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.
10:30:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS JEAN STROHMEYER.
10:30:28AM >> HELLO.
10:30:28AM HOW ARE YOU ALL TODAY.
10:30:29AM LOOKS LIKE I WAS LOOKING FOR MY E-MAILS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
10:30:33AM FROM SULING AND SHE HAS A VACATION.
10:30:38AM LUCKY HER.
10:30:38AM I DID GET IT.
10:30:39AM THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:30:42AM ANYWAY, ON THESE ISSUES, I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO MAKE SURE
10:30:49AM THAT THE PUBLIC HAS A CHANCE TO BRAINSTORM WITH EVERYBODY.
10:30:52AM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE THINK OF THINGS THAT Y'ALL OR THE CITY
10:30:56AM STAFF DO NOT THINK ABOUT.
10:30:58AM YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:31:01AM AGAIN, WE NEED THAT.
10:31:03AM BUT ALSO THE WAY WE GO ABOUT IT, MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE
10:31:07AM INDIANA TENDED CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE A
10:31:10AM GOVERNMENTAL FALLOUT EVERY TIME.
10:31:12AM IF WE CAN KIND OF BRAINSTORM WITH THE CITIZENS, NEIGHBORHOOD
10:31:16AM ASSOCIATIONS AND I DIDN'T GET ONLINE EARLIER, SO THESE
10:31:21AM CHARGING STATIONS AND STUFF.
10:31:22AM I WANTED TO MENTION THAT.
10:31:24AM IF I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO, I APOLOGIZE.
10:31:27AM AND EVERY TIME YOU CHARGE ONE OF THEM CARS, YOU HAVE SEEN
10:31:30AM THE BATTERIES, THE CAR BATTERIES, THEY WILL BE A LANDFILL
10:31:34AM NIGHTMARE IN THE FUTURE.
10:31:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS STROHMEYER.
10:31:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE CONTINUED THAT.
10:31:43AM >> I WAS TOO IG TO SWITCH ON THE WEBINAR PART.
10:31:46AM I MISSED -- I DIDN'T GET MY E-MAIL UNTIL IT WENT FROM A
10:31:50AM DIFFERENT -- YOU KNOW, I AM USED TO SUELING BEING HERE AND I
10:31:53AM DIDN'T KNOW IT CAME FROM A DIFFERENT E-MAIL AND IT WENT INTO
10:31:57AM MY JUNK.
10:31:58AM >> ANYWAY, THAT'S IT RIGHT NOW.
10:32:00AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:32:01AM AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:32:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:32:04AM ANYONE ON LINE.
10:32:06AM >>THE LAST ONE IS STEPHANIE PULPOYNOR.
10:32:08AM PLEASE UNMURT YOURSELF.
10:32:11AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:32:13AM >> I ONLY WANT TO SAY I SUPPORT WHAT NATHAN CONTRIBUTED AND
10:32:17AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE
10:32:19AM CONSULTED.
10:32:20AM I THINK THAT WE HAVE REALLY DONE A LOT TO SUPPORT AFFORDABLE
10:32:25AM HOUSING.
10:32:25AM AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT IN MY ENTIRE LIFE, I HAVE
10:32:29AM NEVER BEEN A PERSON WHO MAKES 140% OF AMI.
10:32:35AM SO THAT KIND OF IS GETTING TO THE TOP END OF IT.
10:32:38AM BUT HAVE A GOOD -- I REALLY WANTED TO COMMENT ON TAMPA
10:32:42AM HEIGHTS FOR THE REST OF THIS AGENDA ITEM.
10:32:44AM THANK YOU.
10:32:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:32:47AM ANYONE ELSE LEFT ON LINE?
10:32:49AM >>CLERK: THAT CONCLUDES THAT PORTION.
10:32:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:32:52AM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
10:32:54AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:32:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:32:56AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION BASICALLY TRANSMIT WHAT WAS
10:33:01AM PRESENTED TO US BY MISS FEELEY AND CITY STAFF.
10:33:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SECOND.
10:33:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:33:07AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:33:09AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:33:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:33:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:33:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:33:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:33:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:33:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:33:29AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH GUDES BEING ABSENT
10:33:33AM AT VOTE.
10:33:35AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:33:36AM I JUST WANTED TO MENTION.
10:33:38AM I BELIEVE NATHAN MENTIONED THAT WE CONTINUE TO EVALUATE ANY
10:33:42AM TYPE OF DEAL WE CAN GET INTO.
10:33:43AM I AM ACTIVELY PURSUING A DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY AND WILL
10:33:55AM INCREASE.
10:33:56AM WE ARE LOOKING TO PARTNER AND ACQUIRE PROPERTY TO DO
10:34:05AM WHATEVER WE CAN DO IN THE MULTIPLE STATUTES.
10:34:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:34:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: TO HIS POINT WHICH TO -- A COMMENTERS EARLIER
10:34:21AM THAT WE WERE SO FOCUSED ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT I PLANT
10:34:25AM FOCUSED ON THE MULTIUSE.
10:34:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL GET INTO THAT.
10:34:30AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:: I HAVE BIKE PARKING, TRANSIT.
10:34:32AM I HAVE BEEN LISTENING INTENTLY.
10:34:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:34:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:34:37AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MOTION WAS SECONDED AND THE
10:34:39AM VOTE TAKEN TO INCLUDE ALL OF THIS OR PART OF THIS A.
10:34:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:34:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS TO PUT ALL OF THEM ON
10:34:57AM THE AGENDA.
10:34:58AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: EVENING LOOKING FIRST IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT
10:35:01AM OF THE SPECIFIED USE WHICH IT APPEARS THAT YOU ARE AND TALK
10:35:05AM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS WHEN THIS STUFF WILL COME BACK WE
10:35:13AM ARE GOING YOU FOR THIS NEXT DATE LOOKING FOR SEPTEMBER OR
10:35:17AM ACT.
10:35:17AM OCTOBER WILL BE BEST.
10:35:19AM AND SET UP MEETINGS WITH DAN AND THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS AND
10:35:24AM START THIS TO COME BACK TO YOU.
10:35:32AM >> WE VOTED THIS -- AT THE END OF THIS --
10:35:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS WHAT WE WILL DO, MR. MASSEY.
10:35:39AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: SHE IS LOOKING FOR MOTION FROM THIS BODY
10:35:42AM YOU ARE SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT SHE IS PROPOSING AND COME BACK TO
10:35:44AM COUNCIL WITH A MORE DEFINITIVE ACTION ITEM AND ORDINANCE
10:35:48AM PROBABLY.
10:35:54AM NEGOTIATING WITH THE DEVELOPER AND HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION
10:35:59AM THAT THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF COMING
10:36:02AM FORWARD.
10:36:11AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THE
10:36:14AM ITEM.
10:36:14AM MOVE THE ITEM.
10:36:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALREADY BEEN DONE.
10:36:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
10:36:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE HARDEST PART OF ANY JOURNEY IS THE FIRST
10:36:21AM STEP.
10:36:21AM THE FIRST STEP OF THAT JOURNEY OF GETTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING
10:36:25AM AND CHANGING SOME OF OUR POLICIES.
10:36:27AM SO MISS FEELEY.
10:36:30AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE SECOND ITEM IN RELATION -- DID YOU NEED
10:36:33AM SOMETHING?
10:36:34AM THE CLERK WAS RAISING HER HAND.
10:36:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY, PLEASE.
10:36:37AM >>CLERK: I WANTED CLARIFICATION AS WELL.
10:36:40AM WE ARE MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7 --
10:36:44AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: STILL ON ITEM NUMBER 6.
10:36:46AM SEVERAL ITEMS UNDER 6.
10:36:49AM THIS.
10:36:49AM THE FIRST SUB ITEM UNDER ITEM 6.
10:36:52AM SEVERAL OF THOSE.
10:37:02AM >> WE TALK OF THE BONUS DENSITY, THE FORMULA IN THERE NOW.
10:37:06AM HOW DEVELOPERS COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER.
10:37:08AM IT IS NOT VERY UNDERSTANDABLE AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE
10:37:11AM DONE ARE SOMETIMES IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE HALF A MILE OR A
10:37:19AM MILE AWAY AND THE IMPROVEMENT WAS HAPPENING ON NEBRASKA.
10:37:27AM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
10:37:28AM OUR SYSTEM RIGHT NOW IS MORE OF A PAY TO PLAY CONCEPT
10:37:32AM SYSTEM.
10:37:33AM WE HAVE HAD RECENTLY ONE DEVELOPMENT BONUS STRICTLY
10:37:40AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON WASHINGTON AND 56 WITH JONATHAN
10:37:43AM STANTON AND LIMA CONSTRUCTION WHERE THEY WERE DOING 320
10:37:47AM UNITS.
10:37:47AM THEY COMMITTED TO DO 32 OF THOSE UNITS AS AFFORDABLE
10:37:52AM HOUSING.
10:37:52AM WHAT WE ARE FIND SOMETHING THAT MOST LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ONLY
10:37:57AM HAVE BONUS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:37:59AM AUSTIN.
10:38:00AM SEVERAL OTHER CITIES THAT WE RESEARCHED.
10:38:03AM SO WE WOULD LIKE TO START WORKING ON RESTRUCTURING OUR
10:38:07AM BONUS, GETTING RID OF THAT FORMULA THAT USES CONSTRUCTION
10:38:11AM COST AND LAND COST AND COMING BACK WITH JUST CONCEPTS OF,
10:38:16AM YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE BONUSING UP A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, WOULD
10:38:21AM YOU DO 10% AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:38:22AM IF A GREATER PERCENTAGE, 20% OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:38:27AM ALSO GRAY WATER BONUS THAT WAS RECENTLY PASSED BY THE STATE
10:38:30AM THAT IS ALSO A DENSITY BONUS THAT WE WOULD CARRY FORWARD.
10:38:35AM AND WE WOULD PARTNER THIS RESTRUCTURING WITH THE
10:38:38AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE AND THE LAND USE ANALYSIS THAT IS
10:38:42AM CURRENTLY BEING DONE WHICH IS LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR FARs
10:38:48AM ACROSS THE CITY, WHETHER THEY ARE ENOUGH, AND WHETHER THEY
10:38:51AM ARE MAXIMIZING OUR DEVELOPMENT.
10:38:53AM THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER UNDERTAKING WE WOULD LIKE TO START
10:38:56AM WITH AND BRING BACK TO YOU.
10:38:57AM THAT WAS A QUICK ONE.
10:39:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE.
10:39:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
10:39:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY --
10:39:06AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK WE NEED TO SEE IF ANYONE HAS PUBLIC
10:39:09AM COMMENT FIRST.
10:39:10AM SETH.
10:39:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MASSEY.
10:39:13AM ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON
10:39:18AM THIS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
10:39:20AM ANYBODY ONLINE?
10:39:22AM >>CLERK: WE HAVE JEAN STROHMEYER, STEPHANIE POYNOR AND
10:39:29AM CAMILLE LaSOTO LOGGED ON.
10:39:32AM CAMILLA, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE
10:39:37AM THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:39:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS STROHMEYER?
10:39:44AM ALL RIGHT, WE WILL COME BACK TO MISS STROHMEYER.
10:39:48AM MISS POYNOR?
10:39:52AM >> NO, THANK YOU.
10:39:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:39:54AM CAMILLA SOTO?
10:40:02AM CAMILLA SOTO, ARE YOU THERE?
10:40:10AM >>CLERK: HE IS ON.
10:40:11AM HE JUST NEEDS TO UNMUTE HIMSELF.
10:40:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SOTO, IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF,
10:40:19AM PLEASE.
10:40:19AM BACK TO MISS STROHMEYER, ARE YOU HERE?
10:40:35AM >> I'M HERE.
10:40:36AM I JUST WANTED TO JUST SAY WHAT I SAID BEFORE IS JUST BE
10:40:40AM CAREFUL ON THE INDIANA TENDED CONSEQUENCES.
10:40:42AM WE WILL BE FOLLOWING THIS.
10:40:44AM PLEASE LET THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS KNOW WHAT IS GOING
10:40:46AM ON.
10:40:46AM KEEP US INFORMED.
10:40:47AM AND ANY NEIGHBORHOOD -- ANY PROJECTS THAT GO ON, YOU KNOW,
10:40:51AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE.
10:40:59AM THE NEIGHBORHOODS NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT GOING ON IN THEIR
10:41:02AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:41:02AM THANKS THAT'S IT.
10:41:03AM HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:41:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO BRING THIS BACK OCTOBER 20 AS A
10:41:07AM PRELIMINARY DRAFT.
10:41:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:41:15AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:41:17AM ANY DISCUSSION?
10:41:18AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:41:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:41:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:41:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES. .
10:41:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:41:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:41:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:41:38AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:41:40AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:41:42AM I WILL TURN IT OVER TO STEPHEN BEN ON FOR A PRESENTATION ON
10:41:46AM ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
10:41:48AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: THANK YOU, NEXT SLIDE.
10:41:49AM NOW WE WILL GO A LITTLE BIT INTO HOUSING TYPES -- NOT JUST
10:41:53AM USE BUT HOUSING TYPES.
10:41:55AM ON YOUR SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF AREAS OF
10:41:58AM THE CITY AS IT RELATES TO THE GROWTH STRATEGY FOR 2040, THE
10:42:03AM MAJOR ACTIVITY CENTERS OF DOWNTOWN, WESTSHORE AND THE
10:42:07AM INTENSITY AND DENSITY.
10:42:08AM THE MIXED USE AND THE DENSITY AND INTENSITY OF THAT
10:42:12AM DEVELOPMENT THERE.
10:42:12AM WHAT THAT PATTERN LOOKS LIKE AND LARGER SHARE OF THE LAND IN
10:42:16AM THE CITY ARE THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND VARIOUS TYPES
10:42:19AM OF HOUSING PRESENT THERE.
10:42:20AM SINGLE-FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY AND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS
10:42:24AM WHICH IS THE FOCUS OF THIS PRESENTATION.
10:42:26AM RECENT SURVEY FROM ZILLOW PRODUCED A STATISTIC THAT 80% OF
10:42:33AM TAMPA RESIDENTS SUPPORT AT LEAST ONE MODEST DENSIFICATION
10:42:36AM MEASURE IN THE CITY, FOR INSTANCE ALLOWING MOTHER-IN-LAW
10:42:39AM FLATS, BACK YARD COTTAGES, DUPLEXES AND RESIDENCES IN
10:42:46AM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:42:46AM SO WHAT IS AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
10:42:50AM NOT DEFINED IN THE CODE.
10:42:52AM FLORIDA STATUE DEFINES A ADU AS A ANCILLARY OR SECONDARY
10:42:57AM UNIT WITH A SEPARATE KITCHEN, BATHROOM AND SLEEPING AREA
10:43:01AM EXISTING STRUCTURE OR THE SAME LOT AS THE PRIMARY DWELLING
10:43:04AM UNIT.
10:43:05AM WHERE ARE ADUs CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN THE CITY?
10:43:09AM LIMITED LARGELY TO TWO AREAS, THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND THE
10:43:14AM ZONING DISTRICTS IN THAT AREA.
10:43:16AM ON THE LEFT IS THE EXTENT THAT THAT MAP COVERS AND LOWRY
10:43:20AM PARK AREA, THE MAP ON THE RIGHT.
10:43:22AM THE LOWRY PARK AREA THAT IS OUTLINE BY SLIGH, NORTH
10:43:25AM BOULEVARD, WATERS AND ARMENIA.
10:43:27AM ONLY ALLOWED IN RS-50 AND RS-60 ZONING.
10:43:33AM THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA THAT EXISTS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING
10:43:37AM UNITS TO A MAXIMUM OF 950 SQUARE FEET.
10:43:40AM THE MAIN RESIDENCE SHOULD BE OWNER-OCCUPIED.
10:43:43AM THE ADU MUST BE DESIGN TO LOB HE KATED WITHIN THE
10:43:46AM SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURE WITH A SEPARATE ENTRANCE OR WITHOUT
10:43:49AM A SEPARATE ENTRANCE BUT NOT LOCATE IN A NONCONFORMING
10:43:53AM ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
10:43:54AM SOMETHING WE WILL SPEAK TO LATER IN THE DAY AS PART OF THE
10:43:57AM PUBLICLY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS.
10:44:00AM NO TIME THE NUMBER OF OBJECTING PANTS OF A ADU EXCEED TWO
10:44:04AM AND PERMIT MUST BE REVIEWED ANNUALLY BY STAFF AND IF
10:44:09AM CONDITIONS CHANGE, A NEW HEARING WILL BE RIERDZ.
10:44:11AM EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE ARE SIMILAR TO ADUs BUT DISTINCT
10:44:17AM DIFFERENCES, THE SIZE LIMITED TO 600 SQUARE FEET RELATIVE TO
10:44:21AM THE 509 OPINION IT CAN ONLY BE APPROVED WHEN THE MAIN
10:44:23AM RESIDENCE IS OWNER-OCCUPIED.
10:44:25AM IT IS DESIGN TO BE LOCATED WITHIN A DWELLING OR A SEPARATE
10:44:29AM STRUCTURE.
10:44:29AM THE OCCUPANTS OF AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE NEED TO BE BY
10:44:34AM FAMILY MEMBERS, MARRIAGE, BLOOD, ADOPTION OR LEGAL
10:44:40AM GUARDIANSHIP.
10:44:41AM TO SERVE A TEMPORARY NEED AND OCCUPANCY CANNOT EXCEED TWO.
10:44:44AM GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE COMPARISON OF THE TWO USES
10:44:47AM AND WHAT THEY ALLOW.
10:44:48AM EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE ARE ALLOW IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS
10:44:51AM IN THE CITY.
10:44:52AM NOT A GEOGRAPHIC LIMITATION LIKE WITH ADUs.
10:44:56AM PARKING IT REQUIRED FOR ADUs BUT NOT FORK EXTENDED FAMILY.
10:45:01AM ADUs MAY BE SEPARATELY RENTED BUT ACCESSORY FAMILY
10:45:06AM RESIDENCES MAY NOT.
10:45:07AM ADUs CAN BE SEPARATELY METERED AND INDIVIDUAL FAMILY
10:45:13AM RESIDENCE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE INDIVIDUALLY METERED.
10:45:16AM PRODUCTION TREND.
10:45:17AM HOW MANY ARE COMING ONLINE.
10:45:19AM EIGHT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS PER YEAR IN THOSE ALLOWABLE
10:45:22AM AREAS AND 13 EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCES PER YEAR.
10:45:26AM NOTING THAT THE ADUs ARE TO 4%, OF THOSE TWO AREAS OF THE
10:45:32AM CITY.
10:45:32AM SO TO DIG DEEP NEAR THAT ZILLOW SURVEY, WE CONDUCTED OUR OWN
10:45:39AM SURVEY, 1,000 RESPONSES ON NEXT DOOR AND FACEBOOK TO GAUGE
10:45:43AM PUBLIC INTEREST AND FEEDBACK.
10:45:46AM 85% OF HOMEOWNERS WERE INTERESTED IN BUILDING AN ADU ON
10:45:51AM THEIR PROPERTY BUT A VARIETY OF REASONS.
10:45:53AM NOT JUST HOUSING FOR A PARENT AND RELATIVE WHICH IS
10:45:56AM IMPORTANT.
10:45:57AM BUT TO GENERATE LANDLORD INCOME AND REINVEST AND HELP THE
10:46:01AM NEIGHBORHOOD GROW AND REDEVELOP.
10:46:03AM THIRD OF THE RESPONSES ARE FROM ONE TO TWO-PERSON
10:46:08AM HOUSEHOLDS.
10:46:08AM QUARTER RESPONSE FROM SOUTH TAMPA AND QUARTER OF RESPONSES
10:46:13AM FROM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
10:46:14AM IN SOUTH TAMPA, IT IS NOT CURRENTLY ALLOWED AND A LOT OF
10:46:17AM RESPONSES OF GROWTH, DENSITY AND REDEVELOPMENT GIVEN THE
10:46:21AM UNIQUE GEOGRAPHIC OF EAST TAMPA.
10:46:26AM .THE CURRENT CRITERIA AND EXISTING CODE AND NOT BEING ABLE
10:46:31AM TO BUILD THE ADU EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ALLOW IN THEIR ZONING
10:46:35AM DISTRICTS.
10:46:35AM LIMITED RESPONSE FROM NEW TAMPA.
10:46:37AM SO WE ARE TAKING ALL THIS INFORMATION AND DEVELOP SOME
10:46:40AM FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED TO HELP GUIDE
10:46:42AM PEOPLE AND ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE RECURRING
10:46:44AM THAT ARE EASY TO ANSWER AND THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY, EVERY
10:46:48AM INDIVIDUAL RESPONSE HAS BEEN POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEB SITE
10:46:51AM FOR REVIEW.
10:46:52AM JUST CATEGORIZING SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS.
10:46:55AM THE MOST COMMENT TOPICS HOUSE FOR A FAMILY MEMBER, PROVIDING
10:46:59AM MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSE THE CITY THROUGH USING ADUs,
10:47:03AM PERMITTING ISSUES AND DIFFICULTY WITH GET THROUGH THAT
10:47:05AM PROCESS AND LAND USE AND ZONING CONSTRAINTS IN THAT AREA.
10:47:13AM AND IN ADDITION TO THE SURVEY, WE CONDUCTED SOME INTERVIEW
10:47:16AM WITH PEER CITIES, ST. PETE, ORLANDO AND LONG BEACH,
10:47:21AM CALIFORNIA.
10:47:21AM SOME OF THE LESSONS LEARNED.
10:47:24AM PARKING REQUIREMENTS WERE GENERALLY WAIVED AND RELAX IN MOST
10:47:27AM SITUATIONS.
10:47:28AM ABOUT 20% OF THE UNITS WERE OCCUPIED RENT-FREE.
10:47:32AM PERHAPS FOR A STUDENT AT ONE TIME.
10:47:34AM THEY ARE NOT CHARGING RENT OR FOR AN ACTUAL FAMILY AND
10:47:38AM SOMEBODY WHO IS BEING CHARGED RENT AT A REASONABLE RATE.
10:47:40AM BUT WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THAT FLEXIBILITY WAS VALUED
10:47:44AM AND WHERE THE 20% COMES FROM.
10:47:45AM IT WAS ALLOWED IN NONCONFORMING STRUCTURES IN ALL THESE
10:47:49AM JURORS DINGSES.
10:47:50AM AND ALLOWING THE USE PROVIDES A PATH FOR AMNESTY.
10:47:54AM WHAT THE JURISDICTIONS, ONCE THEY OPENED UP IT UP TO
10:47:58AM RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS OPENED A PATH TO BRING IT UP TO CODE
10:48:01AM AND WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND GET IT ON THE TAX ROLLS.
10:48:05AM AS FAR AS SOUTH TAMPA GOES, THIS WAS GENERALLY THE FEEDBACK
10:48:10AM FROM SOUTH TAMPA.
10:48:11AM 80% OF SOUTH TAMPA IS IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
10:48:15AM GOING THROUGH A COASTAL ACTION PLAN TO DETERMINE WHAT THE
10:48:19AM FUTURE OF SPECIFICALLY SOUTH OF GANDY IS GOING TO BE GIVEN
10:48:23AM THESE ISSUES AND GIVEN THE UNIQUE GEOGRAPHY AND EVACUATION
10:48:27AM CONSTRAINTS, WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO LOOK MORE CLOSELY AT
10:48:31AM SOUTH TAMPA JUST YET.
10:48:32AM SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO TODAY WITH YOUR FEEDBACK IS
10:48:37AM RECOMMEND YOU CONSIDER AMENDING CHAPTER 27 TO DO A COUPLE OF
10:48:42AM THINGS.
10:48:42AM FIRST, CREATES A DEFINITION FOR AN ADU BECAUSE IT IS NOT
10:48:47AM THERE.
10:48:48AM THREE AREAS IN THE COMP PLAN THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR MORE
10:48:51AM GROWTH -- THAT ARE PREPARED FOR MORE GROWTH.
10:48:53AM CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
10:48:55AM WEST SHORE PLANNING DISTRICTS AND UNIVERSITY DISTRICT.
10:48:59AM LEAVES OUT NEW TAMPA AND SOUTH TAMPA DISTRICT FOR REASONS I
10:49:03AM MENTIONED IN THE PRIOR SLIDE AND ESTABLISHING CRITERIA TO
10:49:06AM ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUE WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO DO IT EVEN
10:49:09AM THOUGH IT IS ALLOW IN MY ZONING DISTRICTS SORT OF SITUATION.
10:49:12AM WE WOULD PROPOSE FOR AN ALL RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS
10:49:15AM THE ADU USE.
10:49:17AM MAXIMUM SIZE WOULD NOT CHANGE 950.
10:49:20AM ALLOW NONCONFORMING STRUCTURES AND CONTINUE THE HOMESTEAD
10:49:24AM FOR THE PROPERTY.
10:49:25AM AND ONE PARKING SPACE WOULD BE CONTINUED TO BE REQUIRED
10:49:28AM EXCEPT IF THE UNIT WAS 5 00 SQUARE FEET OR LESS AND PARKING
10:49:32AM WOULD BE WAIVED.
10:49:32AM AND SO, TODAY, WE WOULD ASK FOR YOUR SPEED.
10:49:37AM BACK AND BRING BACK PRELIMINARY LANGUAGE IN OCTOBER AND TAKE
10:49:41AM IT OUT FOR PUBLIC INPUT.
10:49:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:49:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION
10:49:46AM AND YOUR HARD WORK.
10:49:47AM I HAVE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR YOU, BECAUSE YOU
10:49:50AM REALLY DO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE CITY AND THE
10:49:52AM NEEDS.
10:49:52AM HAVING SAID THAT, I SAW IN ONE OF YOUR FIRST SLIDES SAYS
10:49:56AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ALLOW ADUs, CORRECT?
10:50:01AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: CORRECT.
10:50:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T WANT TO RAT ANYBODY OUT.
10:50:04AM BUT I KNOW SOMEONE IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS THAT HAS THEIR HOME
10:50:08AM -- I KNOW THEY ARE ALLOW TO DO THIS.
10:50:10AM A STRUCTURE IN THE HOUSE WHERE THEY RENT TO TWO INDIVIDUAL
10:50:13AM PEOPLE.
10:50:13AM THE RENT THAT THIS PERSON COLLECTS FROM THOSE TWO RENTALS IN
10:50:17AM THE BACK PAYS FOR -- PAYS FOR HIS MORTGAGE.
10:50:20AM SO NOT ONLY DOES HE -- NOT ONLY DOES IT ALLOW HIM TO GET
10:50:25AM THAT AMERICAN DREAM, THE HOME OWNERSHIP OF BEING ABLE TO
10:50:28AM AFFORD THAT MORTGAGE BECAUSE HE DOES NOT MAKE A LOT OF
10:50:31AM MONEY.
10:50:31AM HE IS ON AN HOURLY PAY, WHATEVER.
10:50:33AM BUT HE ALLOWS TWO OTHER SLITS R INDIVIDUALS TO AFFORD -- TWO
10:50:39AM OTHER INDIVIDUALS TO AFFORD LIVING WITH DIGNITY.
10:50:43AM HE'S GOOD LANDLORD AND TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING.
10:50:45AM THE PERFECT EXAMPLE WHEN WE EXPAND USING ADUs THROUGHOUT THE
10:50:51AM CITY WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS AND DEMAND AND
10:50:54AM PEOPLE WHO MOVE HERE AND FOLKS THAT MAKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
10:50:57AM NORTH CAROLINA, THIS IS A QUICKER PATHWAY, EXPAND THIS
10:51:01AM THROUGHOUT OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY WHERE WE CAN CREATE
10:51:04AM AFFORDABILITY THROUGH THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHILE PEOPLE EARN
10:51:08AM INCOME, ABLE TO PAY THEIR MORTGAGES, WHATEVER IT IS, BUT WE
10:51:12AM GET FOLKS OFF THE STREET.
10:51:13AM WE GET MORE FOLKS TO WORRY LESS THAT THEY HAVE ANOTHER
10:51:17AM OPTION OTHER THAN 2,000 A MONTH TO THERE ARE APARTMENT OR
10:51:21AM $1800 FOR THIS STUDIO.
10:51:23AM WHATEVER IT IS.
10:51:24AM THIS IS REALLY A NO BRAINER.
10:51:26AM I KNOW IT SAYS HERE TO ESTABLISH A CRITERIA OF REQUIRING
10:51:30AM HOMESTEAD.
10:51:31AM WHICH I -- I AGREE WITH.
10:51:33AM SOME OTHERS MAY NOT AGREE WITH.
10:51:35AM WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE OWNER-OCCUPIED FOR THEM TO RENT?
10:51:39AM WHY CAN'T IT JUST BE RENTAL, RENTAL, RENTAL.
10:51:42AM I KNOW WE WANT TO CREATE SOME KIND OF STABILITY THERE.
10:51:45AM WE HAVE ONE PARKING SPACE ON-SITE, BUT IF IT IS LESS THAN
10:51:49AM THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 500, NO PARKING REQUIRED.
10:51:51AM WHAT I SAID EARLIER NOT EVERYBODY DRIVES A CAR.
10:51:54AM MAY NOT BE THAT NECESSITY.
10:51:56AM SO I AM GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT THIS FORWARD.
10:51:58AM BECAUSE THE NECESSITY IS THERE.
10:52:00AM WE CAN'T WAIT ON OTHER FOLKS TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR
10:52:04AM WHATEVER WHEN PEOPLE AS YOU HAVE SURVEYED, 85% SUPPORT OF
10:52:10AM THE PEOPLE -- OF THE 1,000 RESPONSE THAT'S YOU RECEIVE IN 0
10:52:13AM DAYS, 85% SUPPORT THE ADUs FOR WHATEVER THEY SAY, WHETHER IT
10:52:19AM IS NORTH CAROLINA FOR THEMSELVES OR HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES
10:52:20AM FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
10:52:22AM SO BEFORE WE MAKE ANY MOTIONS, OF COURSE, WE WILL HEAR FROM
10:52:24AM THE PUBLIC, BUT THANK YOU FOR BRING THIS FORWARD.
10:52:27AM THIS IS SIGNIFICANT.
10:52:27AM I KNOW THAT I MADE A MOTION A WHILE AGO TO DISCUSS TRIPLEXES
10:52:34AM AND QUADS AND WHAT NOT.
10:52:35AM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL AVENUES.
10:52:37AM THIS IS A GREAT PATH MOVING FORWARD, BUT WE HAVE TO EXPAND
10:52:41AM AND LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO DO TACKLE THIS
10:52:45AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE.
10:52:47AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:52:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:52:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILMAN
10:52:52AM MANISCALCO SAID.
10:52:53AM THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
10:52:54AM THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN WANTING TO DO LONG BEFORE I
10:52:56AM GOT ON COUNCIL.
10:52:57AM SO THIS -- I AM ALL ABOUT THIS
10:53:01AM I DO HAVE SOME THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO EXPLORE
10:53:05AM MORE.
10:53:05AM THE MAXIMUM SIZE IS 950 SQUARE FEET.
10:53:09AM SO IS THERE A WAY THAT IT WOULDN'T JUST HAVE TO BE ONE UNIT.
10:53:12AM IT CAN BE TWO UNITS WITHIN 950 SQUARE FEET BECAUSE NOT
10:53:17AM EVERYBODY WANTS 950 SQUARE FEET.
10:53:19AM FOR ME I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW IF YOU COULD HAVE TWO
10:53:23AM UNITS.
10:53:23AM AND THAT WILL BE LEGALLY ALLOWABLE WITHIN THAT 950 SQUARE
10:53:27AM FEET.
10:53:28AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
10:53:29AM RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE ONLY TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE ALLOWED TO
10:53:33AM LIVE IN THAT.
10:53:33AM 950 SQUARE FEET IS A LOT, REALLY.
10:53:37AM I MEAN, IT IS.
10:53:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BIGGER THAN MY CONDO.
10:53:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I WOULD LIKE TO
10:53:45AM SEE THAT CHANGED TO NO MORE THAN TWO UNRELATED PEOPLE.
10:53:48AM SO, SAY, A FAMILY WANTED TO MOVE IN.
10:53:52AM A COUPLE WHO HAVE A CHILD OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
10:53:57AM BECAUSE IF IT IS 950 SQUARE FEET, CHANCE ARE THAT IS A TWO
10:54:04AM BEDROOM AND YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN TWO PEOPLE LIVING THERE.
10:54:06AM MY QUESTION ABOUT THIS IS DOES THIS TAKE OUT THE EXTENDED
10:54:11AM FAMILY RESIDENCES FOR THE CENTRAL DISTRICTS.
10:54:14AM AND IF NOT, WHY NOT?
10:54:17AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NO REQUIRED PARKING.
10:54:19AM LIKE NONE.
10:54:20AM I DON'T SEE A NEED FOR THAT.
10:54:23AM IT JUST TAKES UP MORE LAND.
10:54:25AM IT TAKES UP MORE PERVIOUS SPACE.
10:54:28AM I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
10:54:29AM AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE YOU TO LOOK INTO AND I
10:54:33AM THINK THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING LATER ON TODAY.
10:54:34AM I WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO LOOK INTO CREATING MAYBE WORK WITH
10:54:40AM DEVELOPERS AND WORK ON THESE ISSUES FIVE OR SIX PLANS THAT
10:54:43AM ARE JUST PLUG AND PLAY.
10:54:45AM IF YOU WANT THIS, GREAT.
10:54:47AM HERE ARE SOME DIMENSIONS THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY APPROVED.
10:54:51AM SO IF -- IT DOESN'T -- YOU KNOW, YOUR OUTSIDE CAN BE
10:54:55AM DIFFERENT, BUT THE INSIDE CAN BE THE SAME.
10:54:57AM THAT WAY THEY CAN CHOOSE THAT DESIGN AND MOVE THROUGH THE
10:55:00AM PROCESS MUCH FASTER.
10:55:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: VERY GOOD.
10:55:04AM VERY GOOD.
10:55:05AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:55:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
10:55:06AM I JUST.
10:55:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN HE ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME REAL
10:55:11AM QUICK?
10:55:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I APOLOGIZE.
10:55:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ANSWER THE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
10:55:19AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?
10:55:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHY CAN'T WE TAKE OUT EXTENDED FAMILY
10:55:24AM RESIDENCES BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE.
10:55:26AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WE CAN BRING THAT BACK.
10:55:28AM TWO DIFFERENT SPECIFIED USE WITH DIFFERENT CRITERIA AND MANY
10:55:32AM ON THE BOOKS ALREADY THAT WE HAVE TO ACTIVELY CONTINUE.
10:55:34AM WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND BRING BACK SOMETHING.
10:55:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IN A WAY ENVELOPING IT.
10:55:38AM BECAUSE I HAVE AN ADU.
10:55:40AM AND IT IS JUST CONFUSING.
10:55:43AM SO LESS OF THAT.
10:55:45AM AND THEN I HAVE SOMETHING ELSE BUT I WILL WAIT UNTIL AFTER.
10:55:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:55:50AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:55:51AM FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
10:55:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SAID -- I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING AND YOU
10:55:55AM ALREADY THANKED ME.
10:55:56AM I WISH FOR MR. GUDES 900 AND SOME FEET IS A LOT OF ROOM.
10:56:00AM I WAS JUST IN MY MIND PUTTING TO WHERE I GREW UP AT, AND I
10:56:05AM SAID A THIRD AND 40% LARGER THAN WHEN WE HAD FIVE
10:56:09AM INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN AND EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY.
10:56:10AM SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:13AM YOUR PROGRAM STARTS WITH PAGE -- LET ME SEE HERE.
10:56:18AM 13.
10:56:20AM AND NOW TO PAGE 25 AND 27.
10:56:22AM LET'S GO BACK, IF I MAY.
10:56:25AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: YES, SIR.
10:56:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SEE HOW THIS WORKS.
10:56:27AM ON PAGE 17, IT WAS ALLOWED A LONG TIME.
10:56:32AM MR. MOREDA, FAMILY COULD COME IN AND HAVE AN ACCESSORY USE
10:56:39AM IN THE BACK.
10:56:40AM YES OR NO.
10:56:41AM WHICH IS THE ONE THE FAMILY COULD COME IN AND YOU NEEDED
10:56:45AM AN ID.
10:56:47AM >> THAT IS THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE, YES, SIR.
10:56:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS STILL AVAILABLE.
10:56:52AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: YES.
10:56:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YEARLY CHECKS.
10:56:55AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: YES.
10:56:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I ASK YOU FOR THREE-YEAR CHECK.
10:56:59AM CAN YOU VERIFY THAT 100% HAVE BEEN CHECKED?
10:57:03AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:57:05AM GOING WAY BACK.
10:57:06AM SO -- THEY -- THEY ACCEPT AFFIDAVIT NOW.
10:57:11AM I DON'T KNOW THAT DURING COVID THEY WERE DOING ON-SITE
10:57:17AM INSPECTIONS.
10:57:17AM ERIC COTTON OVERSEES THAT PART AND WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU
10:57:25AM ON THAT.
10:57:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
10:57:27AM SKIP BETWEEN PAGE 19 AND PAGE 0.
10:57:29AM WE LOOK AT PAGE 19, SOME THINGS THAT TELL ME REALLY.
10:57:35AM NUMBER F, THE OCCUPANTS OF THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCES
10:57:41AM MAY NOT PAY RENT TO THE USE OF THE PROPERTY, CORRECTS?
10:57:45AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: YES.
10:57:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LAWS WE STILL HAVE IN PLACE IF YOU HAVE
10:57:49AM ONE HOUSE, RESIDENTS.
10:57:50AM AND YOU ARE OWNER-OCCUPIED.
10:57:52AM YOU PAY JUST THE NORMAL TAX.
10:57:55AM IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER DWELLING, WHAT HAPPENS THEN TO THE TAX?
10:57:59AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WE DID LOOK --
10:58:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A RENTAL UNIT OR NOT?
10:58:03AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WE LOOKED INTO THAT WITH THE PROPERTY
10:58:06AM APPRAISER.
10:58:06AM TRIGGERED WHEN THE UNIT WAS CONSTRUCTED AND COME AND DO
10:58:12AM INSPECTIONS.
10:58:13AM WHAT THE INTENT OF THE USE FOR.
10:58:15AM IF IT WAS INTENDED FOR USE OF EXTENDED FAMILY.
10:58:20AM IF IT WAS NOT, DETERMINE A DIFFERENT DETERMINATION FROM THE
10:58:23AM PROPERTY APPRAISER.
10:58:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT A LIBERAL, CONSERVATIVE.
10:58:27AM I AM A REALIST, IN MY MIND ANYWAY.
10:58:29AM WHAT HAPPENS THERE STAYS THERE FOREVER WITHOUT BEING
10:58:32AM CHECKED?
10:58:32AM I AM TALK TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
10:58:34AM MAYBE NEVER GET INSPECTED.
10:58:37AM SO THEN WHAT I AM SAYING, HOW WILL WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT
10:58:40AM PAYING RENT, A.
10:58:43AM HOW DO WE KNOW THEY ARE FAMILY ATTACHED IF WE DON'T HAVE IT
10:58:46AM TO -- YOU ARE SAYING A AFFIDAVIT THEY SIGN.
10:58:49AM THAT WAY YOU DO BUSINESS -- WHEN I WAS A YOUNG MAN THINGS
10:58:54AM HAVE CHANGED MUCH IN THIS COUNTRY A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T GIVE
10:59:00AM A DAMN WHAT HAPPENS.
10:59:01AM I NEED TO VERIFY BECAUSE OF THE WAY I AM RAISED THAT ALL OF
10:59:05AM THESE THINGS ARE -- I AM HAVING CONFLICT IN MYSELF, HOW CAN
10:59:11AM I VOTE YES WHEN WE CAN'T VERIFY THAT IT IS TRUE OR NOT.
10:59:14AM SPECIAL USE PERMIT WILL BE REVIEWED ANNUALLY AND A NEW
10:59:20AM SPECIAL USE PERMIT WILL BE REQUIRED.
10:59:21AM I PUT REALLY.
10:59:23AM I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS.
10:59:26AM THAT IS NUMBER ONE.
10:59:26AM MAYBE I AM WRONG.
10:59:27AM I AM NOT SAYING THAT I AM RIGHT.
10:59:29AM I AM THROWING OUT A QUESTION SO WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THE
10:59:32AM PLAYING FIELD IS.
10:59:34AM AND THE OWNER OF A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING MUST UNDER BE
10:59:39AM CERTIFY THAT THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE IS LIMITED TO THE
10:59:42AM CONDITION PRESENTED IN THE APPLICATION INCLUDING NUMBER OF
10:59:44AM RESIDENTS, WHO THE OCCUPANTS WILL BE, AND THE RELATIONSHIP
10:59:49AM OF THE OCCUPANTS TO THE MAIN RESIDENCE AND LOCATION AND
10:59:55AM CERTIFICATION WILL BE ATTACHED WITH THE APPROVED LETTER OF
10:59:58AM THE EXHIBIT.
10:59:58AM THAT MIGHT BE FACTUAL ON DAY ONE, BUT IS IT FACTUAL
11:00:05AM THROUGHOUT?
11:00:06AM WE ARE GETTING SO WATERED DOWN IF I WAS THE IRS, I WILL
11:00:12AM AUDIT ALL OF THEM.
11:00:13AM DO WE GET AUDITED?
11:00:15AM WHY DON'T WE AUDIT THESE THINGS.
11:00:17AM I AM NOT AGAINST THESE THINGS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
11:00:20AM -- I WILL SAY THIS IN PLAIN ENGLISH, THAT SOME HOMEOWNER IS
11:00:24AM NOT CHEATING BY NOT PAYING DUE TAX.
11:00:29AM COLLECTING RENT THEY NEED TO PAY THE IRS AND -- DON'T PAY NO
11:00:33AM MORE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
11:00:35AM THEIR TAX GO UP 3 TO 4% IN AD VALOREM TAXES.
11:00:40AM THAT'S ALL I WANT.
11:00:42AM THE OTHER PUBLIC WHO LIVE IN THE CITY ARE NOT PAYING THE TAX
11:00:45AM FOR SOMEBODY THAT SHOULD HAVE PAID THEIR OWN TAX, IF YOU
11:00:49AM FOLLOW THAT.
11:00:49AM THAT IS ALL I WANT.
11:00:50AM MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE VERIFIED.
11:00:52AM I UNDERSTAND ALL THESE THINGS, BUT I HAVE YET TO HEAR HOW
11:00:56AM YOU ARE GOING TO CAN COMPLEMENT THE REST OF THE POPULATION
11:00:59AM BY SAYING THE FACTS THAT YOU HAVE VERIFIED AND IT IS NOT
11:01:02AM HAPPENING.
11:01:02AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: SO PART OF THE WAY THAT WE ARE DOING THAT
11:01:04AM IS, WE ARE NOT ACTUALLY CHANGING THE EXTENDED FAMILY
11:01:08AM RESIDENCE.
11:01:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SORRY I MISSED THAT?
11:01:11AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE LANGUAGE FOR THE
11:01:14AM FAMILY RESIDENCES.
11:01:15AM WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE ADUs AND WHERE THAT IS ALLOWED IN MORE
11:01:20AM AREAS.
11:01:20AM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES IN THE AREAS WE HAVE ADDED, THEY
11:01:24AM WILL BE ABLE TO COME INTO THE SUNSHINE, COME INTO LIGHT AND
11:01:26AM ADDRESSED AND BROUGHT TO CODE AND TO THE TAX ROLLS.
11:01:32AM IF IT IS EXTENDED FAMILY AND COMES UNDER THAT, YOU ARE
11:01:35AM CORRECT.
11:01:35AM IT MIGHT BE ISSUES.
11:01:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE REASON I SAY THAT -- I AM NOT TRYING
11:01:39AM TO BELABOR -- BUT THERE ARE HUNDREDS AND MAYBE THOUSANDS OF
11:01:43AM UNITS RIGHT NOW IN CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE CITY THAT ARE
11:01:46AM DIVIDED HOUSES INTO THREE OR FOUR PIECES.
11:01:51AM SILL A FAMILY RESIDENCE.
11:01:52AM YOU CAN'T GO IN AND CHECK BECAUSE THE LAW DOESN'T LET YOU.
11:01:55AM THEY PUT DIFFERENT THINGS IN SO YOU CAN'T SEE.
11:01:58AM AND SOME TAXPAYERS -- ALL OF US ARE SUBSIDIZE THAT TAXPAYER
11:02:05AM BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PAYING THE PROPER TAX.
11:02:07AM SO, THEREFORE, YOU GET ZERO.
11:02:09AM JUST $1,000, LET'S SAY FOR AN AVERAGE HOUSE.
11:02:14AM THAT HOUSE SHOULD BE PAYING $3,000 IN TAX AND NOT BEING
11:02:18AM COLLECTED.
11:02:19AM THE SCHOOL BOARD, THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND THE CITIES ARE
11:02:21AM NOT GETTING THE PROPERTY TAX.
11:02:26AM IT IS BEING PAID FOR THE REST OF US.
11:02:27AM THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING.
11:02:29AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE HELP SOMEONE, THAT SOMEONE IS
11:02:31AM NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE.
11:02:32AM I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WE ARE HELPING, BUT THE
11:02:35AM PEOPLE WHO OWN THE PLACE THAT ARE DOING THESE THINGS AND
11:02:38AM HUNDRED OF THEM IF NOT THOUSANDS.
11:02:40AM AND I CAN SHOW YOU ANY TIME YOU WANT.
11:02:42AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: THANK YOU.
11:02:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:02:46AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:02:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALSO WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
11:02:51AM RULES FOR KITCHENS.
11:02:53AM IF YOU COULD GO TO WHATEVER THAT SLIDE WAS.
11:02:56AM AGAIN, 950 SQUARE FEET WITH KITCHEN.
11:03:07AM PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN LARGER CITIES AND OTHER AREAS
11:03:11AM AND EVEN ADUs THAT ARE NOT COMPLIANT, THAT ARE JUST LIVING
11:03:15AM WITH A HOT PLATE OR MICROWAVE ORR -- YOU KNOW SO MANY
11:03:19AM COOKING TOOLS TODAY THAT DON'T REQUIRE AN OVEN.
11:03:23AM SO I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE HOW WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
11:03:27AM BECAUSE THAT IS A CHOICE.
11:03:29AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO COOK.
11:03:31AM AND SO IF WE ARE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE SMALLER PLACES THAT
11:03:38AM DON'T REQUIRE A LARGE KITCHEN, I WOULD ALSO REALLY SUPPORT
11:03:42AM THAT.
11:03:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS TRAVIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY
11:03:51AM SOMETHING?
11:03:51AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES.
11:03:52AM A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION WE ARE HAVING BETWEEN EXTENDED
11:03:55AM FAMILY USE, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
11:03:58AM WE WILL GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT BECAUSE I AGREE IT IS
11:04:01AM COMPLICATED AND HARD TO UNDERSTAND.
11:04:03AM THE OTHER THING IS PUTTING THINGS IN THE CODE THAT YOU ARE
11:04:05AM NOT GOING TO ENFORCE AND HAVING TO CHECK IN, DO WE HAVE THE
11:04:08AM RESOURCES TO CHECK.
11:04:09AM WE ARE GOING TO SEE EVALUATE HOW WE CAN SIMPLIFY THAT, MAKE
11:04:13AM IT EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC, EASIER FOR STAFF TO ENFORCE,
11:04:18AM EASIER FOR YOU AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY WHAT IS ALLOWED AND
11:04:22AM WHAT IS NOT ALLOWED.
11:04:24AM WE ARE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO DO THAT.
11:04:26AM A LIVABLE SPACE IN THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE THAT DICTATES
11:04:30AM HOW SMALL WE CAN GO.
11:04:31AM THE LAST BUILDING UPDATE, THEY HAVE A PROVISION OF TINY
11:04:35AM HOMES.
11:04:35AM WE CAN GO AS SMALL AS 400 SQUARE FEET.
11:04:38AM YOUR COMMENTS HOW CAN WE ALLOW MORE THAN ONE UNIT IS
11:04:42AM SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.
11:04:44AM THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE DOES DICTATE HOW SMALL WE CAN GO.
11:04:48AM SO WE WILL LOOK AT THAT ALL AS A PART OF THIS.
11:04:50AM OKAY.
11:04:54AM THANK YOU.
11:04:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANY -- GO AHEAD, MR. BENSON.
11:05:01AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WE ARE ASKING TO COME BACK IN OCTOBER
11:05:03AM WITH SOME MORE INFORMATION.
11:05:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN WE DO THIS ALL AT ONE TIME LIKE WE ARE
11:05:07AM GOING TO DO EVERYTHING ELSE OR WOULD YOU LIKE A SEPARATE
11:05:10AM MOTION ON THIS NOW?
11:05:11AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:05:12AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO THIS PART OF THE
11:05:17AM AGENDA ITEM?
11:05:24AM >> GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
11:05:26AM MY NAME IS JOHN CAMPBELL.
11:05:28AM MY WIFE SHIRLEY McGUINESS AND I LIVE AT 4802 NORTH HIGHLAND
11:05:33AM AVENUE IN SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
11:05:35AM SHIRLEY BOUGHT OUR HOUSE IN 2005.
11:05:37AM SHE AND OUR NOW ADOPTED SON, VINCE, LIVED WITH US AFTER --
11:05:44AM EVEN WELL AFTER SHIRLEY AND I GOT MARRIED IN 2011.
11:05:47AM OUR HOUSE IS A TWO-STORY STILT HOUSE BUILT IN 1923 WITH NO
11:05:52AM INTERNAL ACCESS BETWEEN FLOORS.
11:05:54AM A MAJOR REASON SHIRLEY BOUGHT OUR HOUSE 17 YEARS AGO WAS TO
11:05:58AM SOME DAY TURN THE DOWNSTAIRS, AROUND 900 SQUARE FEET INTO A
11:06:04AM RENTABLE APARTMENT ONCE VINCE MOVED OUT AND SHE RETIRED.
11:06:08AM NOW SHIRLEY IS RETIRED AND VINCE HAS FINALLY MOVED OUT AT 35
11:06:12AM YEARS OLD.
11:06:12AM [LAUGHTER]
11:06:14AM OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS, WE HAVE EXPLORED VARIOUS WAYS TO
11:06:18AM MAKE THE DOWNSTAIRS SPACE LEGAL BUT TO NO AVAILABLE MIND
11:06:22AM YOU, WE ARE NOT TALKING OF AN AUXILIARY STRUCTURE, JUST THE
11:06:27AM DOWNSTAIRS.
11:06:28AM WE ATTEMPTED TO GET A SU-1 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
11:06:32AM WE WERE DENIED BECAUSE INSTEAD OF HAVING 20-FOOT SETBACK
11:06:36AM REQUIRED IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT, WE ONLY HAD 17.
11:06:39AM DUE TO THE COMPLICATED SERIES OF TRANSACTIONS AND VACATION
11:06:43AM INHERENT IN OLDER HOMES IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
11:06:46AM AGAIN THIS HOUSE WILL TURN 100 YEARS OLD NEXT YEAR.
11:06:49AM WE THEN PURSUED AND ARE STILL PURSUING A REZONING FROM
11:06:55AM A SH-RS TO A PD TO ALLOW FOR A DWELLING TO FAMILY.
11:07:00AM THIS ATTEMPT WAS MET WITH A MYRIAD OF DIFFICULTIES THAT HAVE
11:07:04AM SEEN SEVERAL CITY DEPARTMENTS AT ODDS WITH THE PROPOSAL,
11:07:07AM EXACERBATED WITH THE POTENTIAL NATURE OF ACCESS TO THE
11:07:10AM PROPERTY VIA CITY-OWNED PARCELS.
11:07:13AM OVER THE YEARS, I HAVE BEEN TOLD MANY TIMES, JUST DO IT.
11:07:17AM NOBODY FOLLOWS THE RULES.
11:07:18AM NOBODY IS GOING TO FIND OUT.
11:07:20AM WELL, I RETIRED FROM THE ARMY AS LIEUTENANT COLONEL AFTER 27
11:07:24AM YEARS.
11:07:24AM I STILL WORK AS AN AIR FORCE CIVILIAN AT MacDILL.
11:07:28AM I AM BY NATURE A RULES GUY.
11:07:30AM BUT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO UN TIE THIS BUREAUCRATIC ACCORDION
11:07:35AM KNOT WITH NO LUCK.
11:07:36AM AS I APPROACH RETIREMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO NOT ONLY HAVE SOME
11:07:40AM ADDITIONAL INCOME BUT ALSO OFFER REASONABLY PRICED HABITABLE
11:07:45AM HOUSE TO THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
11:07:47AM WITH THE GROWTH OF TAMPA COMES THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE AND
11:07:50AM SAFE HOUSING, PARTICULARLY IN CENTRALLY LOCATED PART OF
11:07:54AM TOWN, WITH EASY ACCESS TO ALL THE EMPLOYMENT CENTERS AND
11:07:57AM AMENITIES THAT MAKE TAMPA SO SPECIAL.
11:08:00AM BOTH THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE CITY COUNCIL NOTE THE NEED
11:08:04AM FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING INVENTORY.
11:08:06AM WE ARE TRYING TO HELP ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM.
11:08:08AM BUT WE NEED YOUR HELP.
11:08:10AM SHIRLEY AND I DON'T PLAN ON MOVING.
11:08:12AM WE LOVE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
11:08:14AM BUT THERE ARE ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDIES THAT CAN MAKE IT EVEN
11:08:17AM BETTER.
11:08:18AM THANK YOU.
11:08:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:08:24AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:08:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COLONEL CAMPBELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING
11:08:28AM UP.
11:08:28AM YOU SAID EXACTLY WHAT I SAID IN ANOTHER WAY.
11:08:30AM VERY PROFESSIONAL.
11:08:31AM WHAT IT IS, WE CAN'T -- THE SYSTEM WORKS IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
11:08:35AM YOU BY ALL MEANS -- THAT HOUSE IS YOURS.
11:08:39AM YOU CAN RENT -- IN MY OPINION, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T HAVE THAT
11:08:43AM -- I DON'T RENT ANY HOUSE AND I HAVE PROPERTIES THAT I
11:08:46AM MANAGE FOR -- FOR A TRUST.
11:08:47AM BUT I DON'T LIVE IN THOSE HOUSES.
11:08:51AM SO YOU ARE FALLING RIGHT INTO THIS OPERATION THAT WE ARE
11:08:54AM TALKING.
11:08:54AM I APPRECIATES YOU COMING IN AND STATING THE FACTS AS THEY
11:08:57AM ARE, SIR.
11:08:58AM >> THANK YOU.
11:08:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:09:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU AS WELL.
11:09:01AM BECAUSE THIS ISSUE, TO ME, LENDS ITSELF TO ANOTHER QUESTION.
11:09:06AM I MEAN, HOW DO WE TAKE HOUSES LIKE YOURS OR SAY TOWN HOMES
11:09:12AM THAT OFTEN HAVE ON THE BOTTOM OF THOSE FOUR-STORY TOWN
11:09:17AM HOMES, THEY HAVE A SINGLE BEDROOM AND A BATH.
11:09:19AM HOW CAN -- HOW CAN WE -- I KNOW SOMEONE ENCLOSES THEIR
11:09:23AM GARAGE, HOW CAN THEY -- CAN THEY USE THAT FOR AN ADU?
11:09:29AM HOW CAN WE LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:09:34AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: TO ADDRESS THE COMMENT FROM MR. CAMPBELL.
11:09:38AM WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT ISSUE LATE IN THE DAY WITH ONE OF
11:09:43AM OUR PRESENTATIONS WITH A NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE.
11:09:50AM >> MY NAME IS NATHAN HAGAN.
11:09:52AM IN ARE ADUs NOT ALREADY LEGAL CITY WIDE.
11:09:57AM 1942, THE CITY OF TAMPA PASSED A ZONING ORDINANCE THAT
11:10:01AM ESTABLISHED A SET OF RULES FOR HOW WE BUILD HOUSING IN
11:10:04AM TAMPA.
11:10:04AM ACCORDING TO THE EXCELLENCE REPORT BY THE PLANNING
11:10:07AM COMMISSION, ONE OF THE -- ONE OF OUR FIRST ZONING CODES
11:10:10AM FUNDAMENTAL AIMS WAS THE TURN RACIAL SEGREGATION TO ECONOMIC
11:10:16AM SEGREGATION TO EVADE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE CIVIL RIGHTS
11:10:19AM UNION AT THE TIME FROM A GREAT REPORT DONE BY THE EQUITY --
11:10:23AM BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST YEAR.
11:10:25AM THE STRATEGY WAS TO MAKE IT SO PEOPLE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
11:10:29AM ECONOMIC LADDER LIMITED WHERE THEY COULD WIN BY MAKING
11:10:33AM HOUSES ARTIFICIALLY SCARCE, BANNING DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES AND
11:10:40AM MORE.
11:10:41AM IF YOU COULD NOT AFFORD A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, YOU ARE LIKELY
11:10:44AM IN CRISIS.
11:10:44AM THIS WAS THE POINT.
11:10:46AM THIS WAS ON PURPOSE.
11:10:47AM WE HAVE NEVER RECKONED WITH THIS AS A CITY.
11:10:49AM OUR HOUSING CRISIS TODAY IS A DIRECT RESULT OF THAT
11:10:54AM FRAMEWORK.
11:10:54AM THE SAME PROBLEM EXISTS.
11:10:56AM IF YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IN CITY
11:11:00AM OF TAMPA.
11:11:00AM YOU ARE PROBABLY IN CRISIS.
11:11:03AM WHAT CHANGED LATELY NOT JUST EFFECTING COMMUNITIES OF COLOR
11:11:06AM BUT EVERYBODY WHO NEEDS A PLACE TO LIVE.
11:11:09AM WE HAVE VERY LOW WAGES.
11:11:11AM MOST RESIDENTS IN TAMPA ARE RENTERS.
11:11:13AM TOO MANY PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO RENT MUCH LESS OWN A
11:11:17AM SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
11:11:17AM WITH THE INCREASE RECENTLY OF MORE WEALTHY PEOPLE MOVING
11:11:21AM HERE, THE FEW AREAS WE RELEGATED FOR POOR AND WORKING PEOPLE
11:11:24AM HAVE DIMINISHED.
11:11:26AM I'M HERE TO ASK CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE AGGRESSIVE STEPS OF
11:11:30AM UNDOING THIS AND WE NEED MORE OPTIONS AND I SUPPORT STAFF'S
11:11:33AM RECOMMENDATION WHICH WE SHOULD START WITH TODAY, ESPECIALLY
11:11:37AM THE ADU PIECE HERE.
11:11:40AM HOMEOWNERS THAT WANT RENTAL INCOME WANT IT.
11:11:43AM OLDER FOLKS WHO WANT TO RETIRE AND CAN'T AFFORD TO MOVE AND
11:11:46AM MAINTAIN THEIR HOMES TO DOWNSIZE AND AGE IN PLACE AND
11:11:49AM PROVIDE HOUSE FOR CARETAKERS.
11:11:52AM EMPLOYEES AND EMPLOYERS ALIKE WANT THIS GREAT WORKFORCE
11:11:56AM HOUSING NEAR JOB CENTERS.
11:11:58AM HALF OF PEOPLE BETWEEN 20 AND 30 LIVE WITH THEIR PARENTS
11:12:01AM WHICH IS AN INCREDIBLE STATISTIC THAT I KEEP RUN INTO.
11:12:04AM THIS IS GREAT FOR THEM TOO.
11:12:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. HAGAN, IF I MAY INTERRUPT YOU.
11:12:09AM MA'AM, YOU ARE VIDEOTAPING US.
11:12:11AM WE DON'T MIND THAT BUT THAT LIGHT IS BLINDING US.
11:12:16AM >> I WILL JUST WRAP UP WITH MY LAST BIT HERE.
11:12:19AM I THINK WE SHOULD GET THE BALL ROLLING WITH TODAY'S
11:12:22AM SUGGESTIONS.
11:12:23AM MAKE YOUR MOTIONS.
11:12:24AM SAY YES.
11:12:25AM I WILL PLEASE ASK ALL OF TO YOU DEMONSTRATE YOUR COMMITMENT
11:12:28AM TO THE ELDERLY, RETIRED AND WORKFORCE BY SUPPORTING A
11:12:31AM COMPREHENSIVE ORDINANCE WHICH OUR ORGANIZATION NIMBY TAMPA
11:12:36AM IS WORKING ON AND WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION
11:12:43AM ON ADUs.
11:12:43AM THIS IS GOOD SUGGESTION AND WE ARE WORKING FOR COMMUNITY
11:12:45AM SUPPORT FOR A COMPREHENSIVE ORDINANCE THAT I CAN TALK TO YOU
11:12:48AM ABOUT IF I HAVEN'T ALREADY SPOKEN TO YOU.
11:12:50AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:12:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. HAGAN.
11:12:59AM >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN.
11:12:59AM I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANYTHING.
11:13:01AM SO I AGREE WITH THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
11:13:07AM EXACTLY WHAT IS MEANT BY CENTRAL TAMPA?
11:13:12AM CAN THE ADUs -- ARE THEY ONLY SINGLE STORY OR CAN THEY BE
11:13:17AM MULTISTORY?
11:13:19AM AND IF SOMEONE CAN AFFORD IT -- IF THEY HAVE THE LAND AND
11:13:25AM SOMEONE CAN AFFORD TO BUILD IT, IS THERE HELP FOR HELP IN
11:13:28AM RECEIVING ASSISTANCE IN BUILDING THE UNITS?
11:13:33AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: COULD YOU --
11:13:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU TELL US WHO YOU ARE.
11:13:36AM >> ROBIN LOCKETT.
11:13:39AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
11:13:39AM [LAUGHTER]
11:13:41AM GOOD MORNING.
11:13:42AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- SO -- THE QUESTION ABOUT -- IS
11:13:47AM SOMEONE CAN AFFORD TO BUILD AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
11:13:51AM ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE HOPE TO LOOK AT AS A PILOT PROJECT
11:13:55AM FOR THE EAST TAMPA CRA IS -- AND WE ARE -- I AM TELLING YOU
11:13:59AM THIS IS CONCEPTUAL TRYING TO LOOK INTO IT.
11:14:02AM IF THERE IS -- IF WE HAVE A HOMESTEAD.
11:14:04AM A PERSON THAT LIVES ON THE PROPERTY.
11:14:06AM THEIR LAND IS LARGE ENOUGH AND THEY WANTED TO DO AN
11:14:09AM ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
11:14:11AM WE ARE LOOK TO PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM TO HELP THEM BUILD AN
11:14:14AM ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
11:14:16AM THAT WAY IT CAN BE INCOME FOR THEM.
11:14:20AM THEY CAN LIVE IN THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND RENT THEIR
11:14:24AM HOME IF THEY WANTED TO.
11:14:25AM WE ARE LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE CITYWIDE, WE DON'T HAVE THE
11:14:28AM FUNDING TO ALLOW FOR EVERYTHING.
11:14:29AM AND THE CRAs, YOU HAVE THE RESOURCE TO KIND OF PILOT CERTAIN
11:14:36AM PROJECTS.
11:14:36AM WE ARE RESEARCH THAT TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT
11:14:39AM POLICE LOCKET IS ASKING ABOUT.
11:14:41AM IS THAT THE ONLY QUESTION YOU HAVE?
11:14:43AM >> I HAD THREE.
11:14:44AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: TWO STORY YOU CAN DO MORE THAN ONE STORY.
11:14:48AM THIRD -- THE CENTRAL PLANNING DISTRICTS.
11:14:51AM THE CENTRAL PLANNING DISTRICT IS GENERALLY EVERYTHING EXCEPT
11:14:54AM FOR NEW TAMPA AND SOUTH.
11:14:57AM SO IT WILL INCLUDE TAMPA HEIGHTS, WEST TAMPA, EAST TAMPA.
11:15:03AM MOSTLY THE CENTRAL CITY.
11:15:05AM NOT SOUTH TAMPA AND NOT NEW TAMPA.
11:15:08AM WE WILL START WITH THAT LARGE GEOGRAPHIC AREA.
11:15:11AM ANY MORE QUESTIONS, MISS LOCKET?
11:15:15AM THANK YOU.
11:15:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE MORE THING.
11:15:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:15:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY ON PAGE 19, UNDER F, WHERE IT
11:15:23AM SAYS THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENTS MAY NOT PAY RENT.
11:15:26AM IF THAT IS WHAT YOU MEAN THE WORD "MAY" SHOULD CAN STRUCK
11:15:31AM AND PUT "SHALL."
11:15:33AM THAT IS LEGALLY MORE DEFENSIBLE.
11:15:35AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: Abbye Feeley.
11:15:36AM those are the current criteria that are in the code
11:15:42AM today.
11:15:42AM we were trying to show you that right now two pots of how
11:15:45AM these things happen.
11:15:46AM one is through an extended family residence which is a
11:15:49AM special use.
11:15:50AM here are the conditions.
11:15:51AM and the other is through an adu.
11:15:54AM and here are the conditions.
11:15:55AM right now they are S-1s.
11:15:58AM they go under a S-1 application.
11:16:02AM when they are made of specified use, if they are meeting
11:16:05AM those criteria, they will go straight to permitting not
11:16:11AM the S-1 review anymore.
11:16:13AM I heard a couple of things, no more efrs then.
11:16:17AM we will especially categorize anything as an adu.
11:16:21AM we need to be careful in that aspect because there are some
11:16:25AM where it is my mother living back there.
11:16:27AM and I am not going to charge her rent.
11:16:28AM so if the adu speaks to it having to be rented.
11:16:34AM we need to be careful in the language when we come back to
11:16:36AM you.
11:16:36AM but I don't see it problematic.
11:16:38AM but what I heard was, if we are going to travel down
11:16:42AM the adu, that umbrella could encompass both of those
11:16:45AM situations.
11:16:46AM and that monitoring and all that, that would go away.
11:16:49AM This would just become another unit.
11:16:51AM it would become a unit in this sense.
11:16:54AM regulate by these conditions.
11:16:56AM if those conditions are observed to be in violation, then i
11:17:00AM will go through a code enforcement matter for the violation.
11:17:04AM but we would combine that.
11:17:05AM make it all fall under the adu.
11:17:08AM make it a specified use.
11:17:10AM we meet these conditions.
11:17:11AM you are good to go.
11:17:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO
11:17:21AM THIS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM?
11:17:25AM >>CLERK: I HAVE THE SAME THREE REGISTERED SPEAKERS ON LINE.
11:17:30AM CAMILO SOTO, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:17:35AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:17:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SOTO.
11:17:44AM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
11:17:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:17:46AM >> THANK YOU.
11:17:47AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:17:49AM I ACTUALLY WANTED TO SPEAK MORE SPECIFICALLY ON THE TAMPA
11:17:52AM HEIGHTS PIECE, BUT BECAUSE I AM GETTING CALLED ON THIS ONE,
11:17:55AM I WANT TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THE POTENTIAL OF GETTING RID
11:18:00AM OF THE EXTENDED FAMILY RULE.
11:18:02AM I THINK THE ENFORCEMENT OF THAT, YOU ALREADY HEARD FROM
11:18:06AM STAFF, AS IT BEING UNREASONABLY ONEROUS AND POSSIBLY COSTLY
11:18:11AM AND I THINK IT CAN BE SUN SET AND ADDRESSED ON A MORE
11:18:15AM PERSONAL BASIS WITH AN INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS A GOOD FORTUNE OF
11:18:18AM BEING ABLE TO BUILD AN ADU.
11:18:21AM THEY ARE EXPENSIVE.
11:18:22AM THEY ARE LITTLE HOUSES.
11:18:23AM HAVE THE SAME CONNECTION AS A REGULAR SINGLE-FAMILY HOME OR
11:18:25AM MULTIFAMILY UNIT WOULD HAVE.
11:18:27AM THEIR OWN ELECTRICAL.
11:18:28AM THEIR OWN WATER.
11:18:29AM AND SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT SHOULD BE UP TO THE
11:18:33AM INDIVIDUAL RENT THAT UNIT OUT, ESPECIALLY AN INDIVIDUAL THAT
11:18:36AM IS LIVING IN A HOMESTEADED PROPERTY AND TRULY AN ACCESSORY
11:18:39AM TO THAT PRIMARY RESIDENCE, EITHER RENTED OUT OR LET A FAMILY
11:18:45AM MEMBER STAY IN THERE.
11:18:45AM AT THE END OF THE DAY THE WHOLE EXTENDED FAMILY RULE IS
11:18:49AM DRACONIAN AND I THINK IT WILL BE ADDRESSED UNDER AN ADU
11:18:54AM RULE.
11:18:54AM I WILL HANG TIGHT FOR THE TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY DISTRICTS
11:18:58AM WHICH I AM IN SUPPORT OF AS WELL.
11:19:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:19:01AM MISS STROHMEYER, ARE YOU THERE?
11:19:08AM >> HELLO, HI, HOW ARE YOU.
11:19:09AM JEAN STROHMEYER.
11:19:11AM BY LIVE FOR 30 YEARS SOUTH OF GANDY AND I AM LISTENING TO
11:19:16AM THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
11:19:18AM A LOT TO UNPACK THAT I HEARD.
11:19:20AM TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YES, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO THEM
11:19:25AM WHETHER THEY PUT THEM ON THE TAX ROLLS OR NOT.
11:19:28AM I HAVE A VERY, VERY CLOSE FAMILY MEMBER WHO RENTED, YOU KNOW
11:19:33AM -- WEST TAMPA AND TOWN AND COUNTRY.
11:19:35AM AND -- YOU GOT THE -- THE GARAGE.
11:19:38AM YOU GOT THAT RENTED OUT.
11:19:39AM ANY -- ANY BEDROOM ON THE OUTSIDE THEY WILL CHOP OUT -- THE
11:19:43AM EXTERIOR WALL TO BUILD ONE OF THEM UNITS.
11:19:46AM YOU GOT FIVE PEOPLE RENTING AROUND THE ENTIRE HOUSE.
11:19:49AM AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE ALL KNOW IT.
11:19:52AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, THIS PERSON I AM TALKING ABOUT, THEY
11:19:54AM LITERALLY TOOK OUT THE LOAD-BEARING WALL IN THE ROOM HE WAS
11:19:58AM RENTING AND WHILE HE IS LIVING THERE, LEFT IT SO THE RAIN
11:20:02AM JUST RAINED IN AND RUINED ALL OF HIS CLOTHES, EVERYTHING.
11:20:06AM BUT THERE WAS NO RECOURSE AND GRINNED AND BEARED IT AND LEFT
11:20:14AM TAMPA FOR GOOD.
11:20:15AM THAT WAS THE LAST STRAW.
11:20:16AM AND, YES, I WOULD SUPPORT CARETAKER QUARTERS.
11:20:21AM I HAVE ELDERLY PARENTS AROUND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANT
11:20:26AM SOMEBODY LIVING IN WITH THEM, BUT THERE IS NO WAY TO HAVE
11:20:29AM SOMEBODY THAT CLOSE.
11:20:29AM AND TO HAVE SOMEBODY COMING BACK AND FORTH THAT WILL HELP
11:20:32AM THE CARETAKER AND ALSO HELP -- IT WILL HELP THE -- THE
11:20:37AM ELDERLY.
11:20:37AM PROPERTY RIGHTS IS ANOTHER THING.
11:20:40AM THE THING IS, WHEN I HAD MY RENTAL HERE IN TAMPA WHICH I
11:20:45AM THANK GOD GOT RID OF.
11:20:47AM I JUST KEPT GETTING LETTERS.
11:20:49AM WHO IS?
11:20:50AM THERE?
11:20:50AM WHAT ARE YOU DOING THERE?
11:20:52AM KIND OF LIKE NONE OF Y'ALL'S BUSINESS.
11:20:54AM THAT IS THE WAY I SEE IT.
11:20:57AM JUST NOT.
11:20:57AM SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL -- WHICH I
11:21:00AM WASN'T.
11:21:00AM IF THEY ARE GOING TO DO IT ILLEGAL, THEY WILL DO IT
11:21:03AM ILLEGALLY.
11:21:04AM THE IRS CHEATERS, THEY ARE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY ARE GOING
11:21:08AM TO DO.
11:21:08AM SOMEBODY LIKE MISS HURTAK SAYS SHE HAS ONE AND WANTS TO DO
11:21:14AM IT ONLINE AND THESE FOLKS WANT TO DO IT LEGALLY, NOT THE
11:21:18AM SAME.
11:21:18AM IF YOU DO IT LEGALLY, THEY WOULD HAVE DONE IT.
11:21:21AM AMNESTY, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT CAME IN.
11:21:24AM I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE EVEN TALKING ABOUT THAT ON THE CITY
11:21:28AM COUNCIL LEVEL.
11:21:28AM HOMESTEADING, I THINK A TAX EXEMPTION FOR YOU TO RENT TO
11:21:34AM SOMEBODY IN AN ACCESSORY DWELLING.
11:21:37AM KIND OF A GOOD IDEA IF WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
11:21:40AM ANOTHER INDIANA SEND ITTED CONSEQUENCE SITUATION AND THIS
11:21:44AM NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT IN DEPTH WITH MORE OF THE CITIZENS
11:21:49AM AND THE PEOPLE.
11:21:49AM WE JUST REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT IN A GROUP SETTING SO
11:21:53AM EVERYBODY'S IDEAS CAN FLOW.
11:21:55AM AND JUST HOW WE MAKE IT GOOD AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST TO
11:22:00AM HELP CERTAIN PEOPLE.
11:22:01AM SO ANYWAY, WELL, Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY.
11:22:04AM THANKS.
11:22:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS STROHMEYER.
11:22:10AM MISS POYNOR.
11:22:12AM >> YES, SIR, GOOD MORNING.
11:22:14AM THANK YOU FOR OPENING UP THE WORKSHOP TO THIS TYPE OF
11:22:18AM FORMAT.
11:22:18AM I WON'T TO POINT OUT LAST WEEK IN WASHINGTON D.C., I WENT TO
11:22:22AM AN INTERACTIVE HOUSING EXHIBIT ON THE NATIONAL MALL.
11:22:24AM WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN PLANT CITY AN ADU BUILDER WHO THAT IS
11:22:32AM WHAT THEY TURN OUT.
11:22:33AM THEY TURN OUT PREFAB ADUs.
11:22:37AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CERTAINLY SHOULD LOOK INCORPORATE
11:22:40AM INTO THIS SITUATION.
11:22:41AM YOU GUYS ARE DOING WEIRD STUFF ON MY COMPUTERS.
11:22:44AM BUT I -- I AGREE WITH -- WITH THE ADUs.
11:22:50AM AND I THINK THAT -- I THINK THAT THE -- THE -- YOU WILL HAVE
11:22:55AM PEOPLE WHO BREAK THE RULES NO MATTER WHAT, COUNCILMAN
11:22:58AM MIRANDA.
11:22:59AM BUT I THINK IT IS TIME FOR US TO STOP ACTING LIKE ONLY ONE
11:23:03AM PERSON CAN LIVE THERE.
11:23:04AM IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE WITH A THREE-QUARTER-ACRE LOT AND ONE AT
11:23:10AM TO PUT TWO OR THREE TINIEST HOUSES ON THE BACK OF IT.
11:23:13AM TINY HOUSES HAVE A DIFFERENT DEFINITION, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE
11:23:17AM TO DO SO.
11:23:18AM IF YOU ARE ABLE TO PUT MORE HOUSING ON YOUR LOT, YOU SHOULD
11:23:20AM BE ABLE TO DO SO IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:23:22AM THANK YOU.
11:23:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:23:25AM ANYONE ELSE HERE?
11:23:28AM >>CLERK: THAT WAS IT.
11:23:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:23:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL MAKE A MOTION.
11:23:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:23:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE COME BACK AND
11:23:41AM LOOK AT THIS IN OCTOBER.
11:23:44AM THAT -- SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
11:23:49AM LOOKING FORWARD TO GATHERING MORE INFORMATION FROM OTHERS
11:23:51AM AND BRICK IT BACK TO US IN OCTOBER TO --
11:23:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL DECIDE WHEN WE LUMP EVERYTHING
11:23:58AM TOGETHER.
11:23:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, SORRY.
11:24:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:24:03AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:24:05AM ANY DISCUSSION?
11:24:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL SUPPORT IT NOW BUT I HAVE TO SEE
11:24:09AM THE FINAL RESULT BEFORE I VOTE BEHIND IT.
11:24:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:24:14AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A CONCERN WHEN WE TALK OF TINY
11:24:16AM HOUSES.
11:24:16AM A DIFFERENT CONSENT -- I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE A BUNCH OF
11:24:20AM TINY HOUSES NEXT TO HOUSES IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:24:22AM THAT IS A CONCERN ABOUT TINY HOUSES.
11:24:24AM A SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT INSTEAD OF ALL INSIDE OF
11:24:27AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:24:27AM THAT DESTROYS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:24:29AM THAT IS JUST MY OPINION AND I WILL SUPPORT IT TODAY.
11:24:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:24:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL SAY THE SAME THING.
11:24:37AM I WILL SUPPORT WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID.
11:24:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MADAM CLERK.
11:24:42AM >>CLERK: SO I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS RECORDING THE THREE
11:24:45AM MOTIONS MADE UNDER THIS ITEM.
11:24:46AM SO THE FIRST ONE, WHEN WE HAD MISS FEELEY AND MR. BENSON
11:24:51AM PRESENTING.
11:24:51AM WERE THEY PRESENTING ON PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS
11:24:56AM OR THE PUBLIC ONES.
11:24:57AM AND THE SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE IN REGARDS TO THE MOTION
11:25:01AM MADE BY IS THAT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:25:05AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO BRING BACK A PRELIMINARY
11:25:08AM DRAFT ORDINANCE I AM HEARING OCTOBER.
11:25:14AM IS THERE A DATE CERTAIN.
11:25:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE DON'T HAVE A DATE.
11:25:18AM WE WERE GOING TO MAKE MOTIONS SEPARATELY AND THEN AT THE END
11:25:21AM BRING BACK WITH A DATE CERTAIN FOR THEM TO BE REPORTED BACK
11:25:24AM TO US.
11:25:28AM ARE WE GOOD?
11:25:29AM >>CLERK: JUST CLARITY ON THE PRIVATELY AND PUBLIC --
11:25:34AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THESE ARE ALL PUBLIC.
11:25:36AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:: VERY HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE PRIVATE YET.
11:25:42AM >>CLERK: WILL THEY BE TRANSMITTED --
11:25:44AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK WHAT MISS FEELEY AND MR. BEN VON
11:25:47AM LOOKING FOR MOTION OF GENERAL SUPPORT OF WHAT IS BEING
11:25:50AM GENERALLY PROPOSED BY STAFF AS CONCEPTUAL IDEAS.
11:25:56AM WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO TRANSMIT
11:26:00AM TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:26:01AM I THINK THE IDEA THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR SOME INDICATION
11:26:03AM THAT COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE CONCEPTS BEING PRESENTED
11:26:06AM BY STAFF SO THAT STAFF CAN THEN MOVE FORWARD TO ACTUALLY
11:26:10AM CODIFY SET IN ORDINANCE FORM AND SET A DATE AND TIME FOR
11:26:22AM THESE MATTER TO COME BACK.
11:26:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MADAM CLERK, IS THAT GOOD?
11:26:31AM OKAY.
11:26:32AM MISS FEELEY.
11:26:34AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: OKAY.
11:26:35AM SO WE HAVE --
11:26:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY, WE HAD A MOTION MADE.
11:26:38AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:26:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:26:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:26:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:26:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:26:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:26:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:26:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:26:52AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:26:55AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: JUST MOTIONS OF SUPPORT AND AT THE END OF
11:26:58AM ALL OF THIS, WE WILL COME FORWARD WITH A MOTION FOR A
11:27:02AM COMPACTS DATE AND TIME AND BRING BACK ORDINANCE THAT'S
11:27:05AM CODIFY THESE PROPOSED CONCEPTS.
11:27:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:27:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE TO STEP OUTS TO FOR 15 MINUTES TO
11:27:14AM PICK UP MY SON AND THEN I WILL BE LISTENING ON MY PHONE AND
11:27:19AM VOTE WHEN I COME BACK.
11:27:20AM HE.
11:27:21AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:: ITEM NUMBER 6 EXPANSE ACROSS LOT.
11:27:24AM SMALL SET PUBLIC INITIALLY CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WE ARE
11:27:30AM BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU TODAY.
11:27:33AM THE FIRST IS TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND
11:27:38AM MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO BE PERMITTED IN THE COMMERCIAL
11:27:41AM INTENSIVE AND COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
11:27:43AM RIGHT NOW, THIS IS A SPECIAL USE ONE.
11:27:47AM IT HAS TWO CRITERIA.
11:27:48AM THOSE CRITERIA THAT IS ACCESSES THE ARTERIAL AND COLLECTOR
11:27:54AM AND FOLLOWS THE RM-24 STANDARDS.
11:27:56AM WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT WE MAKE IT A PERMITTED USE, NO
11:28:00AM LONGER A CONDITIONAL USE, AND THAT WE REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT
11:28:05AM TO ACCESS THE ARTERIAL AND THE COLLECTOR AND WE GO AHEAD AND
11:28:09AM STILL HOLD THOSE USES TO THE RM-24 STANDARD.
11:28:14AM THIS WOULD, AGAIN, REDUCE A PROCESS THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE.
11:28:17AM WE HAVE SEEN THESE.
11:28:18AM WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT HOW MAIN HAVE COME BEFORE YOU.
11:28:21AM HOW MANY HAVE COME BEFORE YOU ON APPEAL.
11:28:23AM WHAT IS GOING ON.
11:28:29AM THIS OPENS UP ANY PROPERTY THAT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL GENERAL
11:28:32AM AND ON OUR MORE INTENSIVE CORRIDOR TO ALLOW FOR HOUSING
11:28:37AM WHICH RIGHT NOW IT ALLOWS FOR IT AS A CONDITIONAL USE BUT
11:28:43AM ALLOWS MORE INTENSIVE USES AS PERMITTED USES.
11:28:46AM THIS IS IT KIND OF A LEVEL SETTING IN THE CODE.
11:28:48AM WE TALKED ABOUT IT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES AND WE ARE
11:28:51AM READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
11:28:52AM WE BELIEVE THAT THIS, AGAIN, WOULD SUPPORT THE CITY'S
11:28:57AM EFFORTS IN OPENING UP ADDITIONAL INVENTORY FOR POTENTIAL
11:29:02AM RESIDENTIAL USES AND STREAMLINE A PROCESS.
11:29:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR MISS FEELEY OR
11:29:16AM STAFF?
11:29:17AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:29:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SEE IN THE BIG PICTURE HOW THIS IS A GOOD
11:29:24AM IDEA, BUT ONCE YOU TAKE -- TAKE OUT COMMERCIAL SPACE OR --
11:29:29AM WELL, NO, NEVER MIND.
11:29:30AM I AM THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT, YES.
11:29:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISH TO MAKE
11:29:38AM PUBLIC COMMENT TO THIS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM?
11:29:42AM ANYONE ONLINE?
11:29:52AM MR. SOTO.
11:29:53AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK BECAUSE A LOT OF ITEMS ARE BUNDLED
11:30:00AM ALL TOGETHER UNDER SIX, SEVERAL PEOPLE ONLINE THAT ARE WAIT
11:30:03AM TO COMMENT ON OTHER ITEMS SO I THINK MAYBE WE NEED TO ASK
11:30:09AM FOLKS ONLINE IF THEY ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT SPECIFIC
11:30:12AM ITEM.
11:30:13AM JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL, WHAT IS COMING
11:30:17AM BEFORE YOU TODAY ARE A COUPLE ITEMS PRESENTED ON FEBRUARY
11:30:22AM 24.
11:30:22AM THEY WERE WORKSHOP ITEMS.
11:30:25AM PUBLICLY INITIATED AND PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS.
11:30:29AM ALL THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT ON FEBRUARY 24.
11:30:32AM AND THE AGENDA DOESN'T SPELL OUT A SPECIFIC SUBSET OF EACH
11:30:37AM OF THOSE ITEMS BUT THAT'S WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED AT THIS
11:30:41AM POINT IN TIME.
11:30:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ON MY LIST, I HAVE PEOPLE GOING BY AGENDA
11:30:44AM ITEM.
11:30:45AM THAT IS THE REASON --
11:30:46AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: RIGHT.
11:30:46AM WHEN WE GO TO THE ONE THAT ARE ONLINE, I THINK WE NEED TO
11:30:51AM ASK DO THEY HAVE A COMMENT OF A SPECIFIC ITEM.
11:30:53AM IF THEY DON'T, JUST MOVE ON CITIZENS.
11:30:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S WHY I AM SAYING THE SPECIFIC ITEM.
11:30:58AM MISS JEAN STROHMEYER, MISS POYNOR AND MR. SOTO.
11:31:05AM ANY COMMENT ON THIS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM?
11:31:08AM >> I KIND OF GOT LOST.
11:31:09AM SORRY.
11:31:10AM I AM GOOD.
11:31:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:31:14AM >> I AM GOOD.
11:31:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:31:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I GUESS MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THIS IS THAT
11:31:21AM COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ARE GENERALLY ON
11:31:26AM LARGER STREETS.
11:31:26AM JUST TO THE POINT WE HAD A COMMENT EARLIER THIS MORNING,
11:31:29AM PUTTING SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED ON A MAJOR STREET WITHOUT ANY
11:31:38AM MIXED USE IS A CONCERN.
11:31:39AM SO WHILE I THINK.
11:31:40AM I UNDERSTAND YOUR REASONING FOR THIS.
11:31:43AM WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENCOURAGE THAT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON
11:31:46AM OUR LARGER CORE OR LARGER STREETS?
11:31:52AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO RIGHT NOW THE CODE -- I MEAN WE CAN TALK
11:31:54AM ABOUT THIS.
11:31:54AM THIS IS HAPPENING ON NEBRASKA AVENUE.
11:31:56AM IT IS HAPPENING ON BOULEVARD.
11:31:57AM IT IS HAPPENING.
11:31:58AM BUT THOSE ARE PERMITTED USES RIGHT NOW AS S-1s.
11:32:02AM IF YOU ACCESS AN ARTERIAL COLLECTOR AND RM-24.
11:32:08AM YOU ARE ALLOWED.
11:32:09AM I DON'T KNOW IF PHILOSOPHICALLY WE WILL SHIFT TO REQUIRING
11:32:13AM MIXED USE.
11:32:13AM THAT A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.
11:32:16AM WHAT THIS DOES IS SAY THAT'S IF I AM ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE
11:32:19AM IN LIEU OF HAVING TO GO THROUGH A S-1, I WOULD BE A
11:32:26AM PERMITTED USE.
11:32:27AM OUR MIXED USE IS CALLED STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL.
11:32:30AM THAT IS A PERMITTED USE RIGHT NOW IN THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL
11:32:33AM AND COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.
11:32:34AM THAT IS EITHER A STACK WITH -- WITH NON RESY ON THE BOTTOM
11:32:40AM OR RESY ON ABOVE.
11:32:43AM A NON RESY IN THE FRONT OR A RESY BEHIND.
11:32:49AM SO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO DO A MIXED USE BUT INCENTIVIZING
11:32:54AM MIXED USE AND REQUIRING IT ALONG THESE CORRIDORS WOULD BE A
11:32:57AM DIFFERENT DISCUSSION THAT I DON'T KNOW WOULD FALL INTO THIS.
11:33:00AM WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IF YOU WISH TO YOUR SUE THAT
11:33:03AM FURTHER.
11:33:04AM WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AS PART OF THE COMP PLAN UPDATE.
11:33:07AM WE HAVE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS GOING ON RIGHT NOW, BUT,
11:33:11AM AGAIN, THIS WOULD OPEN UP AN INVENTORY OF LAND THAT
11:33:14AM CURRENTLY REQUIRES A SEPARATE PROCESS.
11:33:17AM ALLOWS FOR THINGS TO MOVE A LITTLE FASTER AND REALLY WOULD
11:33:22AM REFLECT CORRIDORS.
11:33:24AM PEOPLE SAY TO ME ALL THE TIME THERE SHOULD BE RESY ALONG
11:33:29AM KENNEDY.
11:33:29AM ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE FACE THAT LOGISTICALLY, A LOT OF
11:33:33AM THE LOTS ON THE COORDINATING ON FLORIDA, NEBRASKA AND
11:33:37AM KENNEDY.
11:33:38AM THEY ARE NOT DEEP.
11:33:39AM NOT DEEP ENOUGH.
11:33:40AM 100 FEET DEEP OR 120.
11:33:43AM IN ORDER TO GET A TRUE MIXED USE, YOU DON'T HAVE THE DEPTH
11:33:46AM OF THE LAND IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
11:33:48AM SO MUCH OF WHAT YOU SEE COME BEFORE YOU IS AN AGGREGATION OF
11:33:52AM THAT LAND.
11:33:53AM THEY WILL TAKE THAT FRONT PIECE PLUS MAYBE ONE OR TWO LOTS
11:33:56AM TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL DEPTH TO HAVE ENOUGH TO CUE UP ON THE
11:34:04AM GARAGE OR HAVE PARKING STRUCTURE OR OTHER THINGS.
11:34:07AM THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED WITH OVER A
11:34:10AM FEW MONTHS AND DIFFERENT APPEALS WE SEE COMING TO YOU.
11:34:16AM WE THOUGHT IN OPENING UP THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND
11:34:19AM OPENING UP INVENTORY FOR WHAT WE HAVE, THAT THIS WOULD HAVE
11:34:22AM FOR IT.
11:34:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:34:23AM BUT YOU JUST SAID THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM WHICH IS PARKING.
11:34:26AM TO ME WITH THESE TYPE OF STRUCTURES, YOU HAVE THOSE NARROW
11:34:30AM LOTS.
11:34:30AM A LOT OF THE REASON PEOPLE DON'T BRING MIXED USE BECAUSE
11:34:34AM THEY CAN'T MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
11:34:35AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT DISCUSSED LATER.
11:34:42AM I REALLY WANT TO BRING UP PARKING.
11:34:44AM IF WE DO THIS, FINE.
11:34:46AM BUT DON'T NEED SUBURBAN PARKING OR REGULAR RESIDENTIAL
11:34:49AM PARKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
11:34:53AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:: IF YOU RECALL YOU ADOPTED STOREFRONT RESY
11:34:57AM PARKING BACK -- TWO MONTHS AGO, I THINK.
11:34:59AM AND NOW IN THE NMU AND THE IS SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
11:35:04AM WE DID DO THAT.
11:35:05AM AND THERE IS A REDUCED PARKING RATIO FOR MIXED USE.
11:35:08AM ONE PER UNIT AND YOU PARK THE NON- RESY AT THE REGULAR RATE.
11:35:14AM IF WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
11:35:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: TALK OF THE MULTIRESIDENTIAL ON THESE AND
11:35:22AM SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
11:35:23AM OFTENTIMES YOU ARE SEEING DOUBLE GARAGES WITH THE DOUBLE
11:35:27AM PARKING IN A DRIVEWAY.
11:35:28AM LIKE WE DON'T NEED BOTH OF THOSE THINGS IS KIND OF MY POINT.
11:35:32AM SAME THING WITH MULTIUSE -- MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
11:35:36AM LET'S REDUCE THAT PARKING REQUIREMENT SO THEY CAN BUILD MORE
11:35:40AM ON THOSE AREAS.
11:35:41AM SO.
11:35:49AM COUNCIL.
11:35:55AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:35:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND BRING IT
11:36:00AM BACK IN OCTOBER.
11:36:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BRING IT BACK AT A TIME CERTAIN.
11:36:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A TIME CERTAIN THAT I AM ASSUMING
11:36:08AM OCTOBER 20 BUT WE WILL GET BACK TO THAT.
11:36:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SECOND.
11:36:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:36:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:36:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:36:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:36:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:36:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:36:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:36:26AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
11:36:31AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:36:33AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:: THE NEXT ONE UP, I AM EXCITED AND I WISH
11:36:37AM OUR GENTLEMAN WOULD HAVE STAYED.
11:36:38AM ANOTHER TEXT AMENDMENT IS TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT -- OR
11:36:42AM REMOVE THE RESTRICTION FOR ADUs OR EFRs TO BE IN
11:36:47AM NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE.
11:36:49AM YOU HAD SEVERAL OF THESE COME TO YOU ON APPEAL, BECAUSE THE
11:36:51AM WAY THE CODE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, YOU WILL SEE THAT
11:36:54AM HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE THERE.
11:36:55AM WE CAN NOT APPROVE AN ADU OR AN EFR IN A NONCONFORMING
11:37:02AM STRUCTURE.
11:37:02AM I HAVE A COUPLE OF PICTURE OF ONES THAT CAME TO YOU, EITHER
11:37:05AM RELATED TO THE SIZE OR RELATED TO THE SETBACK.
11:37:10AM SO THEY COME TO YOU ON APPEAL.
11:37:12AM YOU ULTIMATELY APPROVE THEM.
11:37:14AM SO WHERE WE WOULD REMOVE THAT.
11:37:16AM AND IT IS GOING TO COME BACK NOW PER STEPHEN'S DISCUSSION AS
11:37:22AM A NEW ADU SPECIFIED USE.
11:37:25AM WE WOULD HAVE A CRITERIA THAT THEY MAY BE LOCATES IN
11:37:30AM NONCONFORMING STRUCTURES AND WILL NO LONGER PROHIBITS THAT
11:37:33AM WILL OPEN STRUCTURES IN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS THAT HAVE OLDER
11:37:37AM DETACHED HE STRUCTURE THAT'S DO NOT MEET THE SETBACKS THAT
11:37:41AM WE CAN USE.
11:37:41AM THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, ALWAYS OUR GOAL WITH
11:37:45AM NONCONFORMITIES, SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD THE NONCONFORMITIES
11:37:47AM GO AWAY, THEY ARE BUILT BACK TO CODE.
11:37:49AM WHEN THEY ARE COMING TO YOU FOR APPEAL, AND APPROVING THEM
11:37:54AM VESTING THEM INTO NONCONFORMITY.
11:37:56AM A GOOD CLEANUP THAT WILL ALLOW US TO OPEN UP OTHER
11:38:00AM STRUCTURAL OPTIONS FOR ADUs OR EDRs, BUT IF THEY ARE ONLY
11:38:07AM GOING TO BE ADUs, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
11:38:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APOLOGIZE FOR THE PUBLIC WHO ARE
11:38:13AM FOLLOWING -- THE NUMBERS ON THE PAGES ARE NOT NUMBERED LIKE
11:38:16AM THE OTHER ONES WERE.
11:38:17AM I APOLOGIZE FOR THOSE FOLLOWING.
11:38:20AM FOR THE PUBLIC'S SENSE, CAN YOU REITERATE WHAT YOU SAID ON
11:38:23AM ITEM C WHERE THE NONCONFORMING STRUCTURES.
11:38:27AM STARTS WITH AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE AND OTHER SAYS AN
11:38:31AM ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
11:38:33AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:: RIGHT.
11:38:34AM RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVE A DETACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE
11:38:37AM BACK OF YOUR HOME.
11:38:38AM AND THAT IS LOCATED AT, LET'S SAY, A HALF A FOOT AND HALF A
11:38:44AM FOOT.
11:38:44AM OUR CODE REQUIRES THAT THAT STRUCTURE IS AT THREE FOOT AND
11:38:48AM THREE FOOT.
11:38:48AM SO THE WAY THIS CODE READS RIGHT NOW, IF YOU CAME AND WANTED
11:38:53AM TO USE THAT STRUCTURE AS EITHER AN ACCESSORY DWELLING OR
11:38:57AM EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE, WE WOULD HAVE TO SAY NO.
11:39:01AM BECAUSE PER THIS REGULATION IT SAYS IT HAS TO BE IN A
11:39:04AM CONFORMING STRUCTURE.
11:39:05AM SO WE ARE FINDING THAT WHEN WE ARE DOING THAT, WE ARE SAYING
11:39:10AM NO.
11:39:10AM THEY CAN APPEAL TO COUNCIL.
11:39:11AM THEY COME INTO COUNCIL.
11:39:12AM AND YOU GUYS ARE APPROVING IT.
11:39:14AM SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT AND STOP THIS WHOLE CYCLE OF IT
11:39:18AM COMING IN ADMINISTRATIVELY AND US DENYING IT AND THEM
11:39:22AM APPEALING TO YOU.
11:39:23AM BETTER BUSINESS FOR US TO SAY, OKAY, IF WE ARE ALL IN FAVOR
11:39:26AM OF ALLOWING THESE TO GO INTO NONCONFORMING STRUCTURES, LET'S
11:39:31AM MAKE THE CODE SAY THAT INSTEAD OF CONTINUING THIS CYCLE.
11:39:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO WELL SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:39:36AM IF I MAY GIVE AN EXAMPLE.
11:39:37AM THE EXAMPLE ON THE BACK OF THIS WHAT YOU SAID 80 DRESS -- I
11:39:41AM AM NOT GOING TO MENTION THE ADDRESS --
11:39:44AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
11:39:46AM THEY ALREADY APPROVED.
11:39:48AM THEY ARE CLOSED CASES.
11:39:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU SAID NO.
11:39:53AM AND THE COUNCIL OVERTURNED IT.
11:39:55AM SO TOLD YOU TO SAY YES.
11:39:58AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YOU TOLD US TO SAY YES.
11:40:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM ONLY JOKING WITH YOU.
11:40:01AM ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
11:40:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:40:05AM QUICKLY, ANYONE IN THESE CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO
11:40:09AM THIS?
11:40:10AM MR. SOTO, MISS POYNOR OR MISS STROHMEYER, DO YOU WANT TO
11:40:18AM SPEAK TO THIS?
11:40:20AM >> NO, COUNCIL, I WILL WAIT FOR THE OVERLAY PART OF THIS
11:40:23AM ITEM.
11:40:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:40:25AM I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
11:40:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
11:40:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:40:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:40:31AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:40:34AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:40:35AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:40:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:40:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:40:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:40:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:40:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:40:47AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
11:40:53AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:40:55AM CITIZENS.
11:40:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:40:56AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:: NEXT ONE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DESIGN
11:40:59AM STANDARDS.
11:40:59AM A PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT CAME FROM MR. MacDILL A FEW
11:41:04AM MONTHS AGO.
11:41:04AM WE -- MR. M[L]CLEAN KNEE A FEW MONTHS AGO.
11:41:07AM WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE CRITERIA IS IN TWO PARTS OF THE CODE
11:41:11AM AND HE ONLY CHANGED ONE.
11:41:13AM WE WANT -- THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED STANDARDS FOR
11:41:19AM FEE SIMPLE FOR SALE AND RENTAL PROJECT AND WE ONLY ENDED UP
11:41:23AM FOR FEE SIMPLE.
11:41:24AM WE WANT THE CODE TO BE CONSISTENT AND THIS WOULD CLEAN THAT
11:41:28AM UP.
11:41:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
11:41:31AM THANK YOU.
11:41:31AM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS PART
11:41:34AM OF THE AGENDA ITEM?
11:41:36AM MR. SOTO, MISS STROHMEYER AND MISS POYNOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
11:41:44AM SPEAK TO THIS.
11:41:45AM >> NO THANK YOU.
11:41:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:41:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECONDED.
11:41:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:41:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:41:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:42:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:42:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:42:02AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
11:42:06AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:42:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:42:09AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: access to the local street.
11:42:10AM I think access to the local street has been a long
11:42:14AM conversation for a long time.
11:42:15AM This is for nonresidential uses.
11:42:17AM so nonresidential uses are required to access an arterial or
11:42:23AM collect we are the exception of the Kennedy Boulevard
11:42:25AM overlay and Seminole Heights.
11:42:27AM if you are within 100 feet of an arterial or collector you
11:42:31AM are allowed to access the local street.
11:42:32AM what I did do is pull all of the PDs that you have seen for
11:42:36AM the past three years and the special uses that have come to
11:42:39AM you on appeal over the past three years.
11:42:41AM there have been over 30 of them where this waiver has been
11:42:46AM granted for access for nonresidential to the local streets.
11:42:50AM I believe you heard from Vik Bhide a few months ago on
11:42:54AM actually how it is a safety matter when we allow people to
11:42:58AM go to the local street and then turn to the arterial and
11:43:01AM collector instead of forcing them directly out on to a
11:43:05AM high-speed street.
11:43:06AM it makes more sense.
11:43:07AM so we are asking to work on this, bring it back, that if you
11:43:12AM are within 100 feet of an arterial or collector that you be
11:43:16AM granted access to a local street for nonresidential uses.
11:43:19AM these are your commercial uses.
11:43:21AM even your mixed use uses are considered nonresidential.
11:43:25AM so this would affect those as well.
11:43:28AM we believe this would also cut down on the number of waivers
11:43:32AM you see, the number of applications you entertain in
11:43:36AM relation to this and allow projects some additional
11:43:39AM flexibility.
11:43:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITIZENS COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:43:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SOUNDS LOGICAL IS YOUY.
11:43:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WANT TO SPEAK TO MAKE A
11:43:50AM PUBLIC COMMENT TO THIS?
11:43:54AM DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS?
11:43:57AM >> NO THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
11:44:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY, WHO WAS THAT?
11:44:03AM >> JEAN STROHMEYER -- WE ARE NOT UNMUTED FAST ENOUGH FOR YOU
11:44:09AM TO ALREADY VOTE ON THE ISSUE.
11:44:10AM SO IF YOU CAN GIVE US A SECOND TO GET UNMUTED BY THE
11:44:14AM MONITOR, THAT WILL BE GREAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE THIRD
11:44:16AM TIME.
11:44:16AM NOT THAT I REALLY HAD ANYTHING SPECIFIC, BUT WHEN YOU SAY
11:44:20AM ARE YOU -- DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
11:44:22AM WE ARE NOT UNMUTED AND WAIT A SECOND TO GET UNMUTE THAT WILL
11:44:26AM BE GREATS.
11:44:27AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:44:28AM CITIZENS.
11:44:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS STROHMEYER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A
11:44:34AM COMMENT?
11:44:36AM >> WAIT, WAIT.
11:44:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS POYNOR, JUMP ON.
11:44:41AM >> I FEEL LIKE I AM ON "JEOPARDY" TODAY.
11:44:44AM I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST IF WE HAVE A COMMENT TO MAKE THAT WE
11:44:47AM RAISE OUR HAND.
11:44:49AM I DON'T KNOW IF MICHELLE -- THEN THAT MAKES IT EASIER AND
11:44:53AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK.
11:44:54AM I DO -- ACTUALLY WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH MR. BENSON
11:44:58AM AND MISS TRAVIS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE YESTERDAY
11:45:01AM BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF OUR 14 ITEMS.
11:45:03AM AND WE HAVE DECIDED THAT IT IS KIND OF A MOOT POINT AND IT
11:45:07AM IS PROBABLY AFTER MOBILITY AND PLANNING HAVE HASHED IT OUT
11:45:13AM THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO JUST LET'S GO.
11:45:16AM LETS IT GO.
11:45:17AM THANK YOU.
11:45:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS POYNOR, YOU DID NOT FORM THAT IN THE
11:45:23AM PHRASE OF A QUESTION, I AM SORRY.
11:45:25AM ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY HAS MADE THAT I COMMENTS.
11:45:30AM I HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:45:33AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:45:35AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:45:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:45:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:45:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:45:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:45:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:45:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:45:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES
11:45:48AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:45:52AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: TWO MORE QUICK ONES.
11:45:53AM THIS NEXT ONE IS THE ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS.
11:45:56AM I THINK THE LAST WORKSHOP, WE HAD A PRETTY EXTENSIVE
11:46:00AM CONVERSATION BASED ON SETBACKS WITHIN OVERLAYS AND SPECIAL
11:46:04AM DISTRICTS AND HOW THEY WERE TREATED AS DESIGN EXCEPTION ONES
11:46:08AM THAT DID NOT HAVE PUBLIC NOTICE BUT SETBACK REDUCTIONS IN
11:46:11AM ALL AREAS OF THE CITY WERE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS TWOS AND DID
11:46:18AM THIS PUBLIC NOTICE.
11:46:19AM WE WANTED TO MAKE HOUR RESIDENTS HAVE NOTICES.
11:46:27AM WE WANT ANY SETBACK TO BE DESIGN EXCEPTION 2s WHICH WOULD
11:46:31AM REQUIRE PUBLIC NOTICE TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.
11:46:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:46:40AM ANY MEMBERS AND PEOPLE HERE IN CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO
11:46:44AM MAKE COMMENTS TO THIS?
11:46:47AM MISS STROHMEYER.
11:46:55AM >> THANK YOU, NO.
11:46:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:46:58AM MISS POYNOR?
11:47:04AM >> NO, THANK YOU.
11:47:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SOTO.
11:47:10AM >> NO, THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
11:47:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION AND SECOND.
11:47:15AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:47:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:47:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:47:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:47:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:47:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:47:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:47:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:47:27AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:47:31AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:47:32AM LAST ITEM CDB DESIGN DISTRICT REVIEW.
11:47:37AM THERE IS A SECTION IN THE CODE THAT IS NOT IN THE CODE.
11:47:40AM WE CONDUCT THESE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS BECAUSE THERE
11:47:44AM ARE NO MORE REZONINGS IN THE DOWNTOWN.
11:47:46AM WE HAVE CDB 1 AND CDB 2 AND THEY ARE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH
11:47:52AM THE DOWNTOWN DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS AND THEY CAN SEEK
11:47:55AM ALTERNATIVES THROUGH THAT ETC.
11:47:57AM BUT THE ACTUAL PROCESS IS NOT CODIFIED.
11:47:59AM IT REFERS TO IT.
11:48:01AM IT CREATES A SECTION FOR IT.
11:48:03AM BUT IT HAS NEVER BEEN CODIFIED.
11:48:05AM SO WE ARE WRITE THAT.
11:48:06AM WE HAVE A DRAFT OF THAT READY TO GO.
11:48:08AM AND WE WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR SUPPORT IN ATTENDING THE CODE
11:48:11AM TO ACTUALLY INCLUDE THAT FORMALIZED PROCESS.
11:48:15AM AND THAT IS OUR LAST PUBLICLY INITIATED AMENDMENT.
11:48:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:48:23AM ANYONE IN CHAMBER WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
11:48:27AM MR. SOTO, MISS STROHMEYER AND MISS POYNOR.
11:48:34AM >> NO, THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
11:48:36AM >> NO, THANK YOU.
11:48:37AM NO, THANK YOU.
11:48:41AM >> NO, THANK YOU.
11:48:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
11:48:44AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:48:46AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:48:48AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:48:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:48:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:48:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:48:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:48:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:48:58AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:48:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:49:00AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:49:02AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:49:04AM NOW AT THIS TIME CLOSING OUT ALL THE HOUSING AND EVERYTHING
11:49:06AM FROM THIS MORNING.
11:49:07AM ITEM NUMBER 7 IS THE UPDATE ON THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
11:49:10AM IF IT IS POSSIBLE FOR US TO JUMP TO THAT REAL QUICK.
11:49:14AM STEPHEN BENSON WILL GIVE YOU THAT HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENTS
11:49:19AM UPDATE, WHERE WE ARE ON THAT AND PROCEED TO PRIVATE
11:49:22AM AMENDMENT.
11:49:23AM I KNOW THE HOUR IS APPROACHING LUNCHTIME, I THINK WE CAN
11:49:26AM WRAP UP THAT.
11:49:28AM THAT WILL KNOCK OUT 7 AND KEEP ALL OF OUR HOUSING DISCUSSION
11:49:31AM TO THIS MORNING AND CONCLUDE THAT.
11:49:32AM AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE AGAIN THIS MORNING.
11:49:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:49:37AM MR. BENSON.
11:49:39AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:49:41AM SO COUNCIL ASKED STAFF TO EVALUATE WHAT OUR LONG-TERM NEEDS
11:49:45AM ARE GOING TO BE WITH HOUSING.
11:49:46AM WHAT TYPES OF HOUSING WILL BE NEEDED, NOT JUST TO SERVE
11:49:50AM TODAY'S POPULATION BUT THE POPULATION TEN, 20, 30 YEARS INTO
11:49:55AM THE FUTURE AND HOW THAT IS CHANGING.
11:49:58AM WE ARE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING A HOUSING NEEDS EVALUATION
11:50:02AM THAT LOOKS AT DATA AND TRENDS UP TO 2022 SO FAR AND ALSO
11:50:06AM FORECAST WHAT THE DEMAND IS GOING TO BE OUTS THROUGH 2045.
11:50:09AM WE ARE LIGHTNING ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A HOUSING GAP
11:50:13AM ANALYSIS.
11:50:13AM GOING BACK TO THAT SLIDE I PRESENTED EARLIER.
11:50:16AM WHAT TYPES OF HOUSING WE MISSING.
11:50:18AM WHAT TYPES OF HOUSING DO WE NEED MORE OF THAT WE ARE NOT
11:50:22AM GETTING THROUGH THE MARKETPLACE AND PUTTING AN ACTION PLAN
11:50:25AM BECAUSE WE ARE ACTION-ORIENTED SHORT-TERM, MID-TERRORISM AND
11:50:30AM LONG-TERM THINGS, WHAT CAN BE DONE TO THE NATURALLY
11:50:37AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:50:40AM HOW CAN WE PROTECT LONG-TERM LEGACY RESIDENTS AND CONSERVE
11:50:44AM NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY AND FOCUS ON AFFORDABILITY AND
11:50:47AM WORKFORCE HOUSING.
11:50:49AM THESE ARE ALL PIECE OF PART OF WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO.
11:50:54AM AND LOOKING AT OUR TIMELINE.
11:50:56AM THE MOTION WAS INITIATED IN MARCH.
11:50:58AM WE PUT A RFP TOGETHER IN APRIL AND ADVERTISED THAT IN MAY.
11:51:02AM THE SUBMISSIONS WERE DUE ON JUNE 10.
11:51:06AM WE PROVIDED YOU WITH A REPORT.
11:51:08AM WE ARE KICKING OFF OUR SELECTION PROCESS TOMORROW.
11:51:11AM AND SCHEDULING RFP AWARD TENTATIVELY AROUND MID-JULY.
11:51:17AM BRING BACK A CONTRACT TO YOU.
11:51:18AM LOOKING AT AROUND THE AUGUST TIME FRAME AND NOTICE TO
11:51:21AM PROCEED TO THE CONSULTANT IN OCTOBER.
11:51:24AM AND THE ENTIRE PROCESS SHOULD TAKE ABOUT TEN MONTHS TO
11:51:28AM TOTALLY COMPLETE.
11:51:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:51:33AM IN ANY QUESTIONS?
11:51:35AM YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:51:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND TALKED OF HOUSING
11:51:39AM AND EMERGENCY CRISIS IN THE CITY.
11:51:40AM I SPECIFIC LIE SAID WHEN YOU ARE DOING THE STUDY THIS IS
11:51:44AM INCORPORATE IN THAT JUST IN CASE WE HAVE TO DO THAT SO WE
11:51:48AM DON'T SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE ARS PLAN AND NOT A PLAN IF THIS
11:51:54AM WERE TO GO TO THE VOTERS.
11:51:55AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF THE
11:51:58AM HOUSING CRISIS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH THIS STUDY.
11:52:01AM THIS IS WHAT WE ARE THOROUGHLY DOING?
11:52:04AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: ABSOLUTELY.
11:52:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
11:52:09AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:52:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY, IDEAS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
11:52:16AM LIKE HAVE T-3 BRANDED ALL OVER THEM AND EXCLUDES CITY
11:52:22AM COUNCIL.
11:52:22AM IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUTS T-3, BUT AT LEAST A COLLABORATION
11:52:27AM AND INITIATIVE OF CITY COUNCIL OTHERWISE IT MAKES THE PUBLIC
11:52:32AM FEEL LIKE CITY COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION ARE AT ODDS.
11:52:36AM WE SHOULD TRY TO PRESENT A UNIFIED FRONT IF WE ARE GOING TO
11:52:41AM COLLABORATE.
11:52:42AM THANK YOU.
11:52:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:52:45AM IS THAT ALL THE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:52:47AM THANK YOU.
11:52:47AM ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TO THIS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7?
11:52:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:52:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:52:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. BENSON AND TO STAFF, MR. CARLSON SAY
11:53:00AM THAT'S, BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHEN CITIZENS COME TO US
11:53:02AM AND ASK THIS COUNCIL TO DO THINGS AND WE ASK THESE MOTION TO
11:53:05AM COME BACK FOR APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW,
11:53:08AM THE ADMINISTRATION DOES THIS AND DOES WHATEVER, BUT THE
11:53:11AM ADMINISTRATION'S IDEA VERSUS THE CITIZENS IDEA THAT CAME TO
11:53:15AM THE COUNCIL.
11:53:15AM I CAN SEE HIS POINT AND SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE
11:53:19AM INITIATIVES, AND SHOULD BE A COLLABORATIVE INITIATIVE.
11:53:22AM AND THE CITY'S IDEA TO DEAL WITH THE CITIZENS ASKED US TO
11:53:25AM DO.
11:53:26AM I KIND OF SEE HIS POINT.
11:53:27AM MAYBE WE CAN IN THE FUTURE FOLLOW THAT WHEN THEIR IDEAS.
11:53:30AM A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.
11:53:31AM I SEE WHAT HE IS SAYING.
11:53:33AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IN THE FUTURE WE WON'T USE ANY LOGOS ON OUR
11:53:38AM PRESENTATIONS.
11:53:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS THAT IS WHY YOU ARE THE BOSS, MISS
11:53:45AM TRAVIS.
11:53:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY IN CHAMBER WHO WOULD LIKE TO TALK --
11:53:48AM SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM 7?
11:53:52AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SO AGAIN JUST CLARIFICATION WITH REGARDS TO
11:53:55AM THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, BACK IN FEBRUARY, WHEN WE WERE HERE, I
11:53:59AM THINK A MOTION WAS MADE FOR THIS TO BE DONE -- AM I CORRECT?
11:54:06AM THEY SAID MARCH, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS FEBRUARY -- BUT
11:54:10AM ANYHOW, SO IS THIS -- IS THIS THE STEP THAO THAT NEEDS TO BE
11:54:13AM TAKEN IN ORDER FOR HOUSING -- THE HOUSING CRISIS TO BE
11:54:18AM DECLARED AN EMERGENCY?
11:54:26AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET MISS TRAVIS ANSWER THAT.
11:54:28AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SO THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT --
11:54:32AM >> SO THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS BEING DONE.
11:54:34AM IS THIS THE STEP THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN IN ORDER FOR HOUSING
11:54:37AM TO BE DECLARED AS A STATE OF EMERGENCY.
11:54:39AM COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WE CAME IN -- THE ATTORNEYS SAID, HEY,
11:54:43AM WE NEED TO FOLLOW A PROCESS.
11:54:44AM IS THIS THE STEP THAT NEEDS TO -- IN ORDER FOR THAT TO BE
11:54:48AM DONE?
11:54:49AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SO I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT I PLAY ONE ON
11:54:52AM TV.
11:54:52AM BUT I WILL YIELD TO MR. MASSEY IN A SECOND.
11:54:54AM BUT THE STATE STATUTE DOESN'T -- THE BURDEN IS ON THE
11:54:58AM MUNICIPALITY TO PROVE WHETHER THERE IS A HOUSING EMERGENCY.
11:55:03AM IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE -- THE COURT IS
11:55:07AM GOING TO LOOK FOR MORE THAN JUST NEWSPAPER ARTICLES.
11:55:11AM YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF DATA OR METRIC AND STUDY
11:55:15AM TO PROVE THAT.
11:55:16AM AND DOING THIS HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT STUDY, IT WILL NOT
11:55:19AM ONLY BE ABLE TO GIVE US THE INFORMATION THAT THE COURTS WILL
11:55:22AM PROBABLY BE LOOKING FOR, BUT IT ALSO WOULD BE THE
11:55:24AM INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO HELP DICTATE POLICY FOR US TO
11:55:27AM DEAL WITH HOUSING.
11:55:29AM NOT JUST AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT ALL HOUSING TYPES, BASED ON
11:55:33AM TRENDS, BASED ON DEMOGRAPHICS FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
11:55:37AM AND I WILL STOP PLAYING ATTORNEY ON TV.
11:55:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MASSEY.
11:55:42AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I JUST WANT TO READ FROM THE STATUTE, WHAT
11:55:45AM THE STATUTE REQUIRES.
11:55:47AM A VERY NARROW -- WE HAVE A VERY NARROW OPPORTUNITY ON THE
11:55:51AM STATUTE TO INSTITUTE RENT CONTROL.
11:55:53AM THE GOVERNING BODY NEWS MAKE, RECITE AND ESTABLISH THE
11:55:57AM EXISTENCE OF FACTS OF A HOUSING EMERGENCY SO GREAT AS TO
11:56:01AM CONSTITUTE A SERIOUS MENACE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND THAT
11:56:06AM SUCH ALSO CONTROLS ARE NECESSARY AND PROPER TO ELIMINATE
11:56:09AM SUCH A GRAVE HOUSING EMERGENCY.
11:56:11AM SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
11:56:14AM WE ARE LIKELY -- IF WE ARE GOING TO INSTITUTE A RENTAL
11:56:20AM CONTROL ORDINANCE AND IT GOES TO THE VOTERS AND APPROVED, IT
11:56:24AM WILL LIKELY BE LITIGATED.
11:56:26AM WHAT THE COURT IS LOOKING AT -- AND CASE LAW TO BACK THIS
11:56:29AM UP, LOOKING FOR FACTUAL BASIS TO SUPPORT THOSE FINDINGS.
11:56:33AM WE NEED A FACTUAL BASIS.
11:56:35AM THE NEEDS ANALYSIS WILL PROVIDE US FOR PROVIDING THAT
11:56:40AM FACTUAL BASIS.
11:56:41AM THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON THE CITY IN ANY LITIGATION.
11:56:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:56:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
11:56:51AM IF THIS IS NOT A HOUSING EMERGENCY, THEN RUSSIA NEVER
11:56:54AM INVADED UKRAINE.
11:56:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:56:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I NEVER LIKE THE WORD "RENT CONTROL."
11:57:02AM I DON'T LIKE THAT WORD, BECAUSE RENT CONTROL DOES NOT WORK
11:57:05AM PER SE, BECAUSE YOU CAN LOOK AT NEW YORK.
11:57:06AM AND YOU CAN LOOK AT -- YOU CAN'T BE AT $400 FOR DECADES AND
11:57:10AM YOU CAN'T BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THE BUILDING FOR $400.
11:57:14AM I -- A LITTLE DIFFERENCE.
11:57:17AM SO I -- RENT STABILIZATION.
11:57:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RENT STABILIZATION.
11:57:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: STABILITY.
11:57:30AM WHEN PEOPLE GET AFRAID AND YOU SAY RENT CONTROL VERSUS
11:57:34AM STABILIZATION.
11:57:35AM YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT BECAUSE IT KIND OF -- A
11:57:37AM SCARY TACTIC.
11:57:39AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: UNDERSTAND BUT THE STATUTE SAYS NO CONTROLS
11:57:42AM AT ALL ON THE RENT.
11:57:43AM STABILIZATION WOULD BE INSTITUTING SOME FORM OF REGULATION
11:57:48AM STABILIZING OR PLACING LIMITATIONS ON AN ABILITY OF A
11:57:52AM LANDLORD TO INCREASE THE RENT WOULD BE VIEWED BY A COURT AS
11:57:56AM TRIGGER THAT STATUTE NO MATTER HOW YOU PHRASE IT.
11:58:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN HE TELL WHICH WORD TO
11:58:03AM USE.
11:58:05AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WHATEVER WORD YOU USE -- UNFORTUNATELY, IT
11:58:08AM FALLS I THINK UNDER THE STATUTE.
11:58:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND, SIR.
11:58:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:58:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO THINGS REAL FAST.
11:58:17AM THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A RESPONSE TO -- GUDES OR SOMEBODY MADE
11:58:20AM THE MOTION, A RESPONSE THAT YOU AND OTHERS ORGANIZED TO COME
11:58:24AM HERE.
11:58:24AM I HAVE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT MY FEELINGS ON SOME OF THE
11:58:27AM POLICIES OF WHAT I THINK WE CAN AND CANNOT DO BASED ON THE
11:58:31AM ADVICE WE HAVE GOTTEN AND YOU SEE TODAY AND JUST ABOUT EVERY
11:58:34AM WEEK THAT WE HAVE A COMMITMENT TO TRY TO SOLVE THESE ISSUE
11:58:37AM WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT TOOLS.
11:58:38AM AND YOU SEE STAFF WORKING HARD TO WORK WITH US ON IT.
11:58:43AM EVEN THOUGH THIS MAY BE A REQUIREMENT -- A LEGAL REQUIREMENT
11:58:47AM FOR THEIR PROPOSAL, IT ALSO WILL BE GREAT INFORMATION THAT
11:58:49AM WE ALL USE TO RALLY THE COMMUNITY TO GET ALL THE OTHER
11:58:52AM THINGS THAT WE NEED.
11:58:53AM AND RALLY INVESTOR TO INVEST MORE IN THE MARKET SO WE CAN
11:58:58AM GET MORE -- MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:59:00AM BUT TO LOOK FORWARD -- I THINK WE ALL LOOK FORWARD TO
11:59:03AM WORKING WITH YOU ALL ON ALL THE DIFFERENT IDEAS THAT YOU
11:59:05AM HAVE.
11:59:05AM YOU ARE DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH ON OTHER CITIES AND YOU ARE
11:59:08AM GIVING US LOTS OF IDEAS AND STUDYING THEM ALL AND LOOKING
11:59:12AM FORWARD TO COME BACK WITH MORE PROPOSALS.
11:59:14AM >> I APPRECIATE THE GRACE AND ONE OTHER THING.
11:59:16AM WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH IS GREED.
11:59:18AM AND BASED ON THE STATUTE ITSELF, WE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE,
11:59:23AM RIGHT.
11:59:23AM SO EVEN IF IT IS FOR A YEAR, BECAUSE IT IS WHAT THE STATUTE
11:59:27AM HOLDS, YOU HAVE TO DO IT FOR A YEAR, UNTIL WE GET OTHER
11:59:31AM STUFF IN ORDER, IT WILL CEASE, BECAUSE NOW WE ARE DEALING
11:59:37AM WITH GREED.
11:59:37AM WE ARE DEALING WITH PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE INTEGRITY AND ALL
11:59:41AM ABOUT THE MONEY.
11:59:41AM AND THIS IS A CRISIS FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR EVERYBODY.
11:59:49AM BLACK, IT IS EVERYBODY.
11:59:50AM SO WALKING AND THAT CHEWING BUBBLE GUM AT THE SAME TIME.
11:59:56AM GETTING A NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND PUTTING THE -- DECLARING
12:00:00PM HOUSING AS STATE OF EMERGENCY ON THE BALLOT BECAUSE WE ARE
12:00:05PM WALKING AND CHEWING BUBBLE GUM AT THE SAME TIME WHILE WE
12:00:09PM CREATE THAT --
12:00:10PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE ORDINANCE MUST STATE THE FACTS OF WHICH
12:00:13PM WE ARE BASING THE DETERMINATION.
12:00:15PM WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE FACTS BEFORE WE ADOPT THE ORDINANCE.
12:00:18PM THAT IS WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS.
12:00:20PM LEGALLY WE WILL BE CHALLENGED IF WE DO THIS.
12:00:22PM AND WE NEED TO DO THIS CAREFULLY.
12:00:25PM THAT IS MY ADVICE.
12:00:26PM >> SO IT SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO YOU DO IT BEFORE OR --
12:00:30PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: SAY THAT'S THIS BODY MUST ADOPT AN
12:00:32PM ORDINANCE FIRST AND THEN IT GOES TO A VOTE OF THE -- OF THE
12:00:36PM ELECTORATE OF THE CITY.
12:00:38PM SO THIS ORDINANCE -- THE FINDINGS HAVE TO BE INCORPORATED
12:00:43PM INTO THE ORDINANCE.
12:00:43PM SO THESE FINDINGS, THE FACTUAL BASIS FOR DECLARING A HOUSING
12:00:47PM EMERGENCY AND OF THE RENTAL STABILIZATION MEASURES FOR
12:00:55PM ELIMINATING THAT HOUSING EMERGENCY ALL HAVE TO BE
12:00:58PM ESTABLISHED AT THE TIME YOU ADOPT THE ORDINANCE.
12:01:00PM THEY CAN'T BE DONE AFTER THAT.
12:01:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:01:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ADDITIONALLY TO THAT, IF WE WERE TO DO THAT
12:01:09PM AND WAIT THE LAWSUIT WILL COME AND MOST LIKELY THE JUDGE
12:01:15PM WILL POSTPONE IT AND ALLOW RENT TO CONTINUE.
12:01:19PM SO WE ARE STUCK IN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE AND WE HAVE TO
12:01:22PM GET.
12:01:22PM WE HAVE TO GET THE DATA.

12:01:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. LOCKETT.
12:01:29PM I ONLY SEE ONE PERSON FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7.
12:01:33PM THAT'S JEAN STROHMEYER. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS?
12:01:41PM NO HANDS UP.
12:01:43PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:01:44PM >>JEAN STROHMEYER: NO, NO, NO, NO.
12:01:48PM HELLO?
12:01:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
12:01:52PM >> HOLY MOTHER OF GOD.
12:01:53PM THANK YOU.
12:01:54PM JEAN STROHMEYER.
12:01:55PM YES, I DO HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SAY ON THIS ONE.
12:01:58PM OKAY.
12:01:59PM FIRST OF ALL, A STATE OF EMERGENCY, TALKING ABOUT A STATE OF
12:02:03PM EMERGENCY, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE GET A BIG HURRICANE THAT
12:02:07PM KNOCKS OUT THE ENTIRE PENINSULA HERE ALL THE WAY UP TO A
12:02:11PM FLOOD ALL THE WAY UP TO CYPRESS OF 17 FEET IN THE AIR,
12:02:18PM THAT'S AN EMERGENCY.
12:02:19PM THAT IS A STATE OF EMERGENCY.
12:02:20PM THE PEOPLE IN UKRAINE, THE PEOPLE IN UKRAINE RIGHT NOW, IF
12:02:24PM THEY THINK IF WE ARE TRYING TO SAY THAT THIS IS A FAKE
12:02:28PM EMERGENCY, THEY WOULD LAUGH IN OUR FACE AND PROBABLY SUE US
12:02:32PM BECAUSE THEY WOULD SAY YOU ALL DON'T KNOW WHAT AN EMERGENCY
12:02:35PM IS.
12:02:36PM IT'S A CRISIS AND A STATE OF EMERGENCY, WE ARE USING
12:02:39PM LANGUAGE THAT IS VERY, VERY DANGEROUS AND TO BE USING IT SO
12:02:43PM FLIPPANTLY LIKE THIS, I FEEL -- YES, WE HAVE A HOUSING
12:02:49PM PROBLEM THAT PEOPLE DON'T -- YES, WE DO HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM
12:02:53PM THERE.
12:02:53PM BUT TO CALL IT AN EMERGENCY, AND A STATE OF EMERGENCY?
12:02:58PM HURRICANE, TORNADO, PEOPLE OVER IN HOMESTEAD THAT LOST THEIR
12:03:02PM HOMES, THAT IS A CRISIS, THAT'S A STATE EMERGENCY.
12:03:06PM THE PEOPLE -- THE HURRICANE UP IN THE PANHANDLE, THAT'S A
12:03:09PM STATE OF EMERGENCY.
12:03:10PM THAT IS A CRISIS.
12:03:13PM BUT WE ARE SHORT ON HOUSES, SHORT ON APARTMENTS, IT DOESN'T
12:03:24PM ALIGN TO A STATE OF EMERGENCY.
12:03:26PM AND THE PEOPLE IN UKRAINE AND THE PEOPLE THAT LOST THEIR
12:03:29PM ACTUAL HOMES, THAT LOST BILLIONS IN DOLLARS IN DAMAGE, THAT
12:03:34PM IS A STATE OF EMERGENCY.
12:03:36PM 911, THAT IS A STATE OF EMERGENCY, A CRISIS.
12:03:39PM THIS, WE HAVE A SHORT AN ON HOMES AND IT'S A PROBLEM.
12:03:42PM IT'S A BIG PROBLEM BUT IT'S NOT A STATE OF EMERGENCY.
12:03:45PM IT WOULDN'T RISE TO THAT LEVEL TO UKRAINE PEOPLE.
12:03:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:03:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK THAT A FAMILY OR ANYONE FACING
12:03:54PM HOMELESSNESS IS DEFINITELY AN EMERGENCY, THEY ARE LOSING
12:03:57PM EVERYTHING, HAVING TO LIVE IN THE STREETS.
12:03:59PM THAT'S AN EMERGENCY.
12:04:00PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S MORE CLEAR.
12:04:02PM THANK YOU.
12:04:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:04:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
12:04:06PM FOR WHAT I HAVE HEARD FOR THE PAST TIME, KIND OF LENGTHY
12:04:09PM ALREADY, WITH NO RESULTS, IF THAT IS AN EMERGENCY, YOU HAVE
12:04:13PM AN X FACTOR, LET'S SAY YOU ARE PAYING 700, 800, $900 A MONTH
12:04:18PM AND THE NEXT MONTH IS 1300, THREE MONTHS LATER IS 1500.
12:04:22PM IF THAT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL IS.
12:04:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:04:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
12:04:29PM THIS IS WHY I GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE.
12:04:32PM YOU KNOW, AS A BLACK PERSON, WE ALWAYS HAD MANY EMERGENCIES.
12:04:36PM BUT UNTIL IT AFFECTS OTHER RACES, IT'S A DIFFERENCE.
12:04:43PM BUT WHEN IT AFFECTS EVERYBODY, WE HAVE GOT TO DO SOMETHING
12:04:47PM ABOUT IT.
12:04:47PM BUT AS A BLACK MAN WHEN THERE ARE EMERGENCIES, IN MY
12:04:53PM COMMUNITY, IT WASN'T AN EMERGENCY TO OTHERS.
12:04:55PM BUT WHEN OUR COUNTERPARTS AND CHILDREN STARTED DYING FROM
12:05:00PM PILLS AND IT WAS AN EMERGENCY, IT WAS MENTAL ILLNESS.
12:05:03PM IT WAS MENTAL ILLNESS.
12:05:05PM NOW, THE BLACKS HAVE ALWAYS HAD HOUSING ISSUES.
12:05:09PM BUT NOW IT'S AFFECTING OUR MIDDLE CLASS, UPPER CLASS
12:05:14PM SOCIETY, IT'S AFFECTING THIS WORLD.
12:05:16PM SO NOW IT'S AN EMERGENCY ALL OVER.
12:05:18PM SO NOW WE ARE RUSHING TO DO THINGS ABOUT IT.
12:05:21PM SO I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS ALWAYS
12:05:24PM ISSUES, BUT IT HAS TO BE AN ISSUE FOR EVERYBODY, NOT JUST
12:05:27PM SOMETIME FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE VERSUS SOME PEOPLE DEALING WITH
12:05:31PM ISSUES ALL THE TIME.
12:05:32PM SO TO ME, I SEE A DIFFERENT VIEW, BUT WHEN YOU ARE HOMELESS
12:05:36PM AND YOU HAVE A MOTHER THAT'S GOING TO McDONALD'S IN THE
12:05:39PM MORNING TO WATCH HER KIDS GO TO SCHOOL, SITTING IN A CAR,
12:05:46PM AND I HAVE EXPERIENCED IT.
12:05:47PM I HAVE SEEN IT UP CLOSE IN PERSON.
12:05:53PM IN THE MORNING TRYING TO GET KIDS CLEAN TO BE GO TO SCHOOL
12:05:57PM OR IN THE PARKING LOT ALL NIGHT SLEEPING IN A HOT CAR.
12:06:03PM PULL UP IN A POLICE CAR, AND WHAT IS IN THAT CAR?
12:06:06PM I SEE KIDS IN THAT CAR AND I HAVE TO GET IN MY POCKET
12:06:11PM BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE WHAT THEY HAVE AT SCHOOL.
12:06:16PM SO I KNOW WHAT AN EMERGENCY IS.
12:06:19PM I SOME OF THE JOBS, YOU HAVE TWO OF THEM, STILL CAN'T PAY
12:06:25PM THE RENT AND PAY YOUR NEEDS.
12:06:28PM SO, I MEAN, I KNOW MS. STROHMEYER IS A NICE LADY.
12:06:32PM I RESPECT WHAT SHE'S SAYING.
12:06:33PM BUT RIGHT NOW IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO LAY YOUR HEAD AT
12:06:37PM NIGHT, THAT'S AN EMERGENCY.
12:06:38PM SO IT'S AN EMERGENCY THAT AFFECTS EVERYBODY.
12:06:43PM BUT AS A BLACK MAN, WHEN WE HAVE A HOUSING --
12:06:54PM >> WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:06:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE WITH THOSE SENTIMENTS AND WE HAVE A
12:07:00PM LOT OF EMERGENCIES IN THIS COUNTRY AND IN OUR COMMUNITY.
12:07:03PM WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FOR PROBABLY 20, 30 YEARS, THAT WE HAVE
12:07:07PM A HEALTH CARE CRISIS AND A HEALTH CARE EMERGENCY AND WE HAVE
12:07:11PM PASSAGE OF THE ACA, WE HAVE ABOUT 30 MILLION AMERICANS IF
12:07:14PM THEY GET SICK TODAY CAN'T LIKELY AFFORD A DOCTOR.
12:07:17PM MILLIONS MOWER UNDERINSURED.
12:07:18PM WE HAVE NO LOT OF OUR COMMUNITIES WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT A GUN
12:07:21PM CRISIS VIOLENCE, AND I BELIEVE AN EMERGENCY FOR MANY, MANY
12:07:25PM OF OUR AT RISK COMMUNITIES AND WE CERTAINLY DO HAVE AN
12:07:28PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS AND EMERGENCY WHEN IN THE LAST
12:07:31PM YEAR THE COSTS OF HOUSING HAVE GONE UP WELL OVER 30%.
12:07:34PM WE KNOW THAT NATIONALLY THERE IS A HURRICANE ON HOUSING
12:07:40PM AFFORDABILITY, AND IT WOULD APPEAR THAT TAMPA BAY IS AT THE
12:07:44PM HEART OF THAT STORM.
12:07:45PM AND FOR ME, THAT IS A CRISIS THAT IS AN EMERGENCY.
12:07:47PM I THINK THE OBJECTIVE FACTS BEAR THAT OUT AND WHATNOT, AND I
12:07:52PM THINK ALL OF US WANT TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO HELP
12:07:55PM FOLKS, BUT I THINK FOCUSING ON THE SEMANTICS OF IT PROBABLY
12:08:00PM WON'T GET US ANYWHERE.
12:08:01PM BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY AND A CRISIS
12:08:05PM OBVIOUSLY.
12:08:05PM THANK YOU.
12:08:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. BENSON?
12:08:19PM I WAS GOING TO ASK -- IF HE WAS FINISHED WITH HIS UPDATE.
12:08:26PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: YES, SIR.
12:08:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. BENSON.
12:08:29PM ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
12:08:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: IN TERMS OF SCHEDULING, CAN WE HAVE AN
12:08:34PM ESTIMATE AS TO HOW MUCH TIME THAT EVERYTHING ELSE WILL TAKE?
12:08:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO RIGHT
12:08:40PM NOW.
12:08:40PM WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.
12:08:46PM ARE YOU READY FOR THAT?
12:08:57PM AND I AM TRYING TO GET THEM OUT OF HERE SO THEY DON'T HAVE
12:09:00PM TO COME BACK AFTER LUNCH.
12:09:02PM AND THEN WE WILL BUNDLE EVERYTHING WE HAVE FOR THOSE MOTIONS
12:09:05PM WE HAVE.
12:09:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY QUESTION WAS, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET A
12:09:09PM TIME ESTIMATE ON HOW MUCH EACH THING WOULD TAKE?
12:09:12PM WHILE I HAVE THE FLOOR, I THINK ON AN ITEM LIKE NUMBER 6 IN
12:09:15PM THE FUTURE THAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE THESE TEXT AMENDMENTS AS
12:09:18PM SEPARATE LINE ITEMS, OR AT LEAST DETAILED IN THE AGENDA SO
12:09:21PM THAT THE PUBLIC, AND WE HAVE -- CAN ESTIMATE HOW MUCH TIME
12:09:25PM THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO TAKE.
12:09:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. TRAVIS AND MRS. FEELEY AND I HAD
12:09:29PM DISCUSSED THIS, AND IT WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT TO FEEL
12:09:35PM THIS WOULD HAVE GONE SMOOTH SMOOTHER THIS WAY THAN TO BREAK
12:09:38PM DOWN THINGS INDIVIDUALLY SINCE WE WERE ALL TALKING ABOUT
12:09:42PM ACCOMPLISHING THE SAME THINGS THROUGH EACH OF THESE TYPE OF
12:09:45PM AMENDMENTS.
12:09:48PM MS. TRAVIS.
12:09:48PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
12:09:50PM SO WE WERE TRYING TO FOLLOW THE MOTION, AND BECAUSE WE WERE
12:09:53PM BRINGING IN THAT WHATNOT A MOTION, THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T
12:09:59PM SEPARATE IT OUT IN THE FUTURE.
12:10:00PM WE CAN PROBABLY BREAK OUT OUR WORKSHOP TOPIC FOR YOU.
12:10:03PM AS FAR AS GIVING AN ESTIMATE I THINK WE CAN COMPLETE THE
12:10:06PM REST OF THE AGENDA IN 30 MINUTES.
12:10:10PM >> WE HAVE FOUR, FIVE INITIATED.
12:10:19PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: 4 AND 5?
12:10:22PM THEY ARE SAYING WE NEED AN HOUR FOR THE PRIVATELY INITIATED.
12:10:28PM AN HOUR.
12:10:35PM AND THEN I KNOW THAT MS. ZORNITTA CAN DO HER PRESENTATION IN
12:10:41PM LESS THAN TEN MINUTES.
12:10:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHY DON'T WE TAKE THIS ONE, AND THEN COME
12:10:46PM BACK AT A DATE AND TIME CERTAIN FOR ALL THE MOTIONS THAT WE
12:10:50PM HAVE MADE TO COME BACK, STAFF, AND THEN COME BACK AFTER
12:10:55PM LUNCH FOR THE OTHERS.
12:10:57PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WHY DON'T WE TRY TO SET THE DATE AND TIME
12:11:00PM FOR ALL THOSE MOTIONS NOW AND THEN HAVE MS. ZORNITTA COME
12:11:03PM AFTER THAT.
12:11:04PM I THINK THAT WOULD BE A BETTER WAY TO GO.
12:11:06PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
12:11:12PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SO ON ALL --
12:11:15PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO THOSE TEXT AMENDMENTS AREN'T REALLY
12:11:19PM READY TO GET STARTED.
12:11:21PM I KNOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION -- THE FIRST THREE WE HAVE
12:11:27PM SPECIFY THE ADUs WOULD BE PERFECT FOR OCTOBER.
12:11:33PM THAT'S THE BEST WOULD GIVE US TIME TO DO THE COMMUNITY
12:11:37PM OUTREACH AND COME BACK ON THE CITY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT,
12:11:40PM I THINK WE COULD COME SOONER TO GET THOSE IN TO THE HOPPER,
12:11:43PM AND GET THINGS UNDERWAY.
12:11:45PM SO IT WOULD BE -- I KNOW YOU ARE ON VACATION, AND THEN
12:11:49PM AUGUST, BUT EVEN SEPTEMBER I THINK WOULD BE GOOD FOR THAT.
12:11:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:11:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: IS IT POSSIBLE THE PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT
12:12:00PM AMENDMENTS COULD WAIT TILL THE NEXT WORKSHOP OR DO WE HAVE
12:12:02PM TO COVER THEM TODAY?
12:12:04PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I BELIEVE THOSE APPLICANTS ARE HERE AND
12:12:06PM THEY ARE READY TO GO AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THOSE
12:12:08PM MATTERS COVERED TODAY.
12:12:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE REST OF COUNCIL, CAN WE DO THOSE LATER
12:12:16PM THIS AFTERNOON?
12:12:17PM >> YES.
12:12:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:12:19PM WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO BRING
12:12:21PM EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THIS MORNING
12:12:22PM AND MADE MOTIONS AND PASSED TO OCTOBER 20th, 9:01?
12:12:31PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
12:12:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
12:12:39PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: A TIME CERTAIN?
12:12:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 9:01.
12:12:45PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: 9:30 OR 10:30 IS NORMALLY --
12:12:52PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: CAN I RECOMMEND TO COME BACK ON THE
12:12:56PM PRIVATELY INITIATED IN SEPTEMBER?
12:13:02PM WHAT TIME DO YOU NEED?
12:13:07PM SEPTEMBER 1st OR THE 15th?
12:13:13PM SEPTEMBER 15th AT 9:30.
12:13:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU AMENDED IT SO WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY
12:13:21PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:13:28PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:13:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:13:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:13:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:13:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:13:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:13:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:13:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:13:44PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:13:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. BENSON.
12:13:50PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: I AM JOINED TODAY BY MS. ZORNITTA WITH
12:13:54PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AN UPDATE ON THE MIXED USE
12:13:57PM DEVELOPMENT MINIMUM THRESHOLD.
12:13:58PM MELISSA IS GOING TO START THE PRESENTATION OFF, AND THE
12:14:03PM RECOMMENDATIONS, THEN I AM GOING TO SPEAK TO SOME ADDITIONAL
12:14:05PM INFORMATION WE WERE ASKED TO BRING BACK LAST TIME TO SUPPORT
12:14:08PM THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY MAKE TODAY.
12:14:10PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THIS.
12:14:14PM MELISSA ZORNITTA, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING
12:14:16PM COMMISSION.
12:14:17PM WE WILL BE QUICK TO GET YOU OUT FOR LUNCH.
12:14:20PM AND TO RECAP WHERE WE HAVE BEEN, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH
12:14:23PM THE CITY STAFF ON THIS STUDY SINCE 2021.
12:14:27PM WE BROUGHT FORWARD A STUDY AND REPORT ON BEST PRACTICES ON
12:14:31PM HOW TO HANDLE MIXED USE AT THE END OF LAST YEAR.
12:14:36PM MANY OF THE FINDINGS OF THAT WERE THAT THE MOST SUCCESSFUL
12:14:40PM UTILIZATION OF REQUIREMENTS FOR MIXED USE WERE NOT CITY-WIDE
12:14:45PM BUT GEOGRAPHICALLY SPECIFIC TO CERTAIN CORRIDORS OR NODES,
12:14:52PM ACTIVITY CENTERS, TRANSIT AREAS, STATION AREAS, THINGS OF
12:14:57PM THAT NATURE.
12:14:57PM WE THEN CAME BACK IN APRIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO -- AS A
12:15:02PM FIRST STEP IN IMPLEMENTING FURTHER SPECIFICATIONS, MIXED
12:15:07PM USE, A SIZE CRITERIA INTO A FLOOR AREA RATIO THAT IS ALREADY
12:15:13PM AN INCENTIVE IN THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
12:15:16PM SO SPECIFICALLY THIS WOULD APPLY TO THREE LAND USE
12:15:19PM CATEGORIES, COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35
12:15:22PM AND UMU-60.
12:15:25PM THOSE ALL ALLOW FOR A HIGHER F.A.R. IF THERE IS A VERTICALLY
12:15:31PM INTEGRATED MIXED USE BUT IT DOESN'T SPECIFY HOW MUCH OF A
12:15:34PM VERTICALLY INTEGRATED MIXED USE IS REQUIRED.
12:15:37PM SO WHAT WE WOULD BE PROPOSING IS TO REQUIRE AT LEAST 5% OR
12:15:42PM 1500 SQUARE FEET, WHICHEVER IS GREATER.
12:15:52PM THERE WE GO.
12:15:53PM I ALSO WANTED TO BRING YOU ALL UP TO SPEED THAT WE HAVE
12:15:56PM INITIATED A FUTURE LAND USE ASSESSMENT AS PART OF THE UPDATE
12:16:00PM OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
12:16:01PM THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT ALL OF THE LAND USE
12:16:04PM CATEGORIES.
12:16:05PM ARE THEY THE RIGHT DENSITY?
12:16:07PM DO THEY HAVE THE RIGHT FLOOR AREA RATIOS REQUIRED?
12:16:11PM ARE THEY IN THE IN THE RIGHT LOCATIONS? ARE THE
12:16:13PM REQUIREMENTS AND SPECIFICATIONS OF WHAT WE WANT OUT OF THAT
12:16:15PM CATEGORY FURTHERING THE CITY'S COLLECTIVE VISION?
12:16:21PM SO THAT STUDY IS UNDERWAY.
12:16:22PM IT HAS, AS A FOCUS, CREATING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, JUST
12:16:27PM LIKE YOU ALL HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS MORNING, AND
12:16:30PM PROMOTION OF MIXED USE.
12:16:32PM SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT CONSULTANT WORK BRINGS FORWARD
12:16:36PM SOME RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE FALL THAT WE WILL HAVE
12:16:38PM ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO IMPLEMENT MIXED USE.
12:16:42PM SO AT THIS TIME OUR RECOMMENDATION IS IF YOU WANT TO MOVE
12:16:46PM FORWARD WITH A PLAN AMENDMENT IN YOUR AUGUST CYCLE OF PLAN
12:16:50PM AMENDMENT, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT INCENTIVE-BASED
12:16:53PM APPROACH TO ADD THAT REQUIREMENT TO THE F.A.R. INCENTIVE,
12:16:57PM AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS AS PART OF THE
12:17:00PM FUTURE LAND USE ASSESSMENT.
12:17:02PM AND NOW I WILL TURN IT OVER TO STEPHEN.
12:17:06PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WE WANTED TO BRING BACK VISUALS TO SHOW
12:17:10PM YOU WHAT THE 5% IS IN TERMS OF WHAT'S GOING TO GET BILLED
12:17:13PM AND NOT BUILT AND WHAT'S BEEN BUILT RECENTLY.
12:17:16PM THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE PROJECT ON SOUTH WESTSHORE JUST
12:17:20PM SOUTH OF GANDY BOULEVARD.
12:17:21PM THIS WAS IN THE CMU LAND USE CATEGORY, SO IT'S THIS SAME
12:17:25PM LAND USE CATEGORY.
12:17:26PM YOU CAN SEE THERE IS NO SECOND USE PROVIDED.
12:17:28PM IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
12:17:30PM IT IS PARKING UP AGAINST WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, WHICH IS A
12:17:34PM COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR IN THE CITY.
12:17:37PM SO THIS IS THE TYPE OF PROJECT WE NEED TO BEING LOOKING AT
12:17:40PM TO TRY TO INCENTIVIZE MIXED USE AS NEW PROJECTS COME ONLINE.
12:17:44PM THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A PROJECT IN WEST TAMPA.
12:17:46PM THIS WAS ON INTERSECTION OF A COLLECTOR ROAD, A HALF A
12:17:51PM PERCENT OF THE PROJECT FLOOR SQUARE AREA WAS NONRESIDENTIAL,
12:17:54PM IN A MIXED USE LAND USE CATEGORY, BUT AGAIN IT'S REALLY UP
12:17:58PM TO YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND DECIDE FOR YOURSELVES, IS
12:18:01PM THIS ENOUGH, IS THIS MEETING OUR BASIC EXPECTATIONS FOR A
12:18:04PM MIXED USE PROJECT?
12:18:05PM AGAIN A HALF A PERCEPT AND WE ARE PROPOSING TEN TIMES THAT.
12:18:09PM SO TEN TIMES WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF
12:18:13PM NONRESIDENTIAL ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
12:18:15PM LOOKING AT THE CASS, THIS CAME IN AT 2.4% NONRESIDENTIAL.
12:18:21PM AGAIN WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE IS ESSENTIALLY DOUBLE THE
12:18:23PM AMOUNT OF THAT SECOND NONRESIDENTIAL USE ON THE GROUND
12:18:26PM FLOOR.
12:18:27PM SO YOU CAN VISUALIZE HOW IT WOULD INTERACT WITH THE STREET
12:18:30PM BETTER AND ALMOST COVER HALF OF THE GROUND FLOOR ALONG CASS
12:18:33PM STREET.
12:18:37PM LOOKING AT AN EXAMPLE FROM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, THIS EXAMPLE IS
12:18:40PM AT 7% NONRESIDENTIAL, AND YOU CAN SEE IT COVERS THE ENTIRE
12:18:44PM GROUND FLOOR FRONTING THE COLLECTOR.
12:18:46PM ANY MORE THAN 7% AND PEOPLE CAN'T GO TO THE SECOND LEVEL
12:18:49PM WHICH DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE WHEN IT COMES TO PUTTING
12:18:53PM VIRTUALLY INTEGRATED MIXED USE PROJECTS TOGETHER.
12:18:56PM AND THEN THE LAST EXAMPLE WE HAVE, HOWARD AND MORRISON, THIS
12:19:00PM WAS 8% NONRESIDENTIAL.
12:19:01PM AGAIN, THE ENTIRE GROUND FLOOR WAS ACTIVATED GOING UP TO 10%
12:19:05PM WOULD REALLY BE A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH, AND BE MORE THAN WHAT
12:19:08PM WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR.
12:19:11PM AND THIS SUMMARIZES THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO
12:19:14PM MOVE FORWARD WITH.
12:19:15PM THE TEXT IN YOUR PACKET DOES INCLUDE SOME CLEAN-UP LANGUAGE
12:19:18PM THAT ADDRESSES THE TERM BONUS PROVISION BUT IS JUST CLEAN-UP
12:19:23PM LANGUAGE BUT THIS WOULD BE 5% OR 1500 SQUARE FEET
12:19:26PM REQUIREMENT FOR A SECOND USE FOR SITES THAT FRONT ARTERIALS
12:19:29PM OR COLLECTORS IN THOSE THREE LAND USE CATEGORIES, AND THAT
12:19:32PM MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL, THE MAXIMUM F.A.R. WOULDN'T
12:19:35PM CHANGE.
12:19:36PM BY DOING THIS THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HIT THAT MAXIMUM.
12:19:41PM SO MOVING THIS FORWARD AS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
12:19:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
12:19:50PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
12:19:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I LOVE THE VISUAL LEARN -- I AM A VISUAL
12:19:56PM LEARNER.
12:19:56PM SO JUST BEING THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES, AND OPPORTUNITIES
12:19:59PM THAT REALLY UTILIZE THAT, IT'S VERY DRAMATIC, SO THANK YOU
12:20:05PM FOR THAT.
12:20:06PM AND I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT IT.
12:20:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
12:20:17PM I AM GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
12:20:19PM 5% I DO NOT BELIEVE IS ENOUGH.
12:20:22PM THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION.
12:20:24PM I THINK IT SHOULD BE -- IT SHOULD BE SET HIGHER.
12:20:28PM HAVING THE DEVELOPERS USE THEIR BURDEN OF PROOF ON WHY
12:20:37PM LESSER SHOULD BE PUT IN, THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.
12:20:41PM I THINK WE ARE MISSING OUT ON THE AVAILABILITY FOR RETAIL TO
12:20:46PM BE ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR.
12:20:47PM AGAIN, THAT'S MY OPINION.
12:20:51PM HAVE THE DEVELOPERS MEET THE BURDEN OF PROOF ON THEIR END ON
12:20:55PM WHY IT SHOULD BE LESS.
12:20:58PM I THREW THAT OUT THERE.
12:20:59PM I DON'T HAVE THE LAST WORD.
12:21:00PM SO COUNCILMAN GUDES WILL HAVE THE LAST WORD.
12:21:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW, LIKE COUNCILMAN HURTAK SAID,
12:21:08PM VISUAL IS GOOD BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE OPPORTUNITY.
12:21:10PM I SEE OPPORTUNITY IN A SMALL BARBERSHOP, SUB SHOP, YOU KNOW.
12:21:17PM IF YOU TALK LIKE THAT'S A COMMUNITY THERE AND THAT'S WHAT
12:21:20PM YOU ARE DOING, THEN THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU NEED.
12:21:23PM YOU TALK ABOUT TAKING AWAY PARKING.
12:21:26PM PEOPLE CAN DRIVE TO EAT AND DRIVE TO GO TO THE GROCERY
12:21:29PM STORY.
12:21:30PM THESE ARE SOME SMALL LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE
12:21:35PM TO GO WORRYING ABOUT SOMEBODY TO PICK THEM UP, GO RIGHT DOWN
12:21:40PM FROM THE APARTMENT, GET SOMETHING TO EAT, GOOD TO GO.
12:21:44PM I THINK MR. CITRO IS RIGHT, 5% MAY BE A LITTLE TOO LOW.
12:21:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
12:21:54PM I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I DIDN'T SEE YOU.
12:21:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
12:21:59PM I UNDERSTAND THE LOGISTICS OF THE CONVERSATION.
12:22:01PM HOWEVER, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THIS IS LOCATED.
12:22:04PM IF YOU HAVE THIS BUILDING IN FOUR CORNERS, WHICH YOU MAY
12:22:07PM HAVE, YOU HAVE SOME THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS AND HAVE BEEN HAS
12:22:11PM THIS AMOUNT, YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A HALF ACRE, BECAUSE FOUR
12:22:16PM OF THESE BUILDINGS, 7% OR 8% OR 10%, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE
12:22:19PM SOME FAILURES FROM THE START, GET GO, AND I AM NOT OPPOSED
12:22:23PM TO THE 5%.
12:22:25PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE.
12:22:27PM IT DEPENDS WHERE IT'S AT.
12:22:28PM YOU CAN'T BLANKET EVERYTHING IS THE SAME.
12:22:30PM IT'S NOT.
12:22:31PM SO IT DEPENDS HOW THESE BUILDINGS ARE BUILT, WHERE THEY ARE
12:22:34PM BUILT, AND MAYBE WE CAN DEFINE THAT SOMEHOW.
12:22:37PM I DON'T KNOW.
12:22:37PM I AM JUST THROWING THAT OUT AS AN IDEA.
12:22:39PM >> I WANT TO POINT OUT ONE EXAMPLE, ABOUT IS THIS REALLY
12:22:45PM ENOUGH?
12:22:46PM EVEN THOUGH THE 5% AMOUNT IS NOT BEING INCREASED, OUR RENTAL
12:22:49PM WAS TO STAY AT 5%, THE ACTUAL LOCATIONS ARE BEING INCREASED.
12:22:53PM SO THE MIXED USE CATEGORIES RIGHT NOW YOU CAN ONLY USE THAT
12:22:56PM INCENTIVE IF YOU ARE ON AN ARTERIAL.
12:22:59PM WE ARE PROPOSING IN LOCATION WHERE IS THEY ARE ON
12:23:01PM COLLECTORS.
12:23:01PM FOR EXAMPLE, THE DUCK WEED GROCERY THAT WAS IN WEST TAMPA,
12:23:05PM THAT'S A COLLECTOR.
12:23:06PM THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCESS THIS.
12:23:09PM THAT'S WHAT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS.
12:23:11PM SO EVEN THE 5% IS NOT GOING UP THE NUMBER OF LOCATIONS
12:23:14PM ELIGIBLE IS GOING UP SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS YOU ARE GOING
12:23:17PM TO GET MORE SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THAT.
12:23:19PM IT'S GOING TO BE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
12:23:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:23:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FOR THE PUBLIC WATCHING THIS TO CLOSE
12:23:27PM A LOOPHOLE THAT WE FACED BEFORE, WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT ANY
12:23:30PM SPECIFICS, ALSO ADDS AT LEAST CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS AND
12:23:33PM CORRIDORS BECOME VERY DENSE, IT PROVIDES SERVICES THAT
12:23:36PM PEOPLE CAN WALK TO.
12:23:38PM WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT
12:23:40PM CONCEPT, SO THAT TAKES TRAFFIC OFF THE ROAD, MAKES THE
12:23:42PM ROADWAYS HOPEFULLY MORE CLEAR, AND LESS POLLUTED, BUT ALSO
12:23:51PM AGREE WITH CHAIR CITRO, I WISH WE COULD HAVE MORE AND THEN
12:23:55PM NEGOTIATE DOWNWARD.
12:23:56PM THANK YOU.
12:23:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE, LADIES FIRST.
12:24:01PM >> AS PART OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS WE WOULD HAVE FROM
12:24:05PM THE OUTREACH MEETINGS CONTINUE TO GET INPUT FROM THE
12:24:08PM NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE INDUSTRY, SO THE PROPOSAL AND
12:24:12PM RECOMMENDATION MAY BE REFINED AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PLAN
12:24:15PM AMENDMENT PROCESS AND GET CHANGING INPUT.
12:24:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND MR. BENSON, TO YOUR POINT THAT WOULD BE
12:24:21PM WHERE THE BURDEN OF PROOF WOULD COME IN WITH THE DEVELOPERS.
12:24:26PM I AM AT A DEAD-END STREET.
12:24:28PM I DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITIES.
12:24:29PM THERE WOULDN'T THE FOOT TRAFFIC.
12:24:31PM OR SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO ME HAS
12:24:36PM 40% RETAIL SPACE, THERE'S MY BURDEN OF PROOF, I WOULD LOSE
12:24:41PM MONEY.
12:24:41PM THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING ABOUT THE BURDEN OF PROOF.
12:24:44PM IF WE HAVE THAT CAP, AGAIN, PUT THE BURDEN OF PROOF ON THE
12:24:49PM DEVELOPER.
12:24:49PM NOT ON CITY COUNCIL BY BEGGING PEOPLE TO DO SOMETHING.
12:24:53PM THAT'S THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE.
12:24:55PM >> THESE ARE ALL GREAT IDEAS AND THAT'S WHY I THINK MELISSA
12:25:00PM EMPHASIZED WE WANT TO TAKE PART LOOK AT ALL THESE IDEAS BUT
12:25:04PM THIS IS A QUICK FIX THAT WE CAN OFFER TODAY TO TAKE A FIRST
12:25:07PM STEP.
12:25:07PM THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION TO CLARIFY COUNCILMAN
12:25:10PM CARLSON IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS THAT WE
12:25:13PM LOOKED AT, THEY ARE ACTUALLY NOW BEING ADDED BECAUSE THOSE
12:25:16PM ARE COLLECTOR ROADWAYS SO THOSE ARE THROWN INTO THE
12:25:19PM DISCUSSION TO ACCESS THIS DISCUSSION.
12:25:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCELLENT.
12:25:25PM I BELIEVE MRS. STEPHANIE POYNOR IS ON THE LINE AND SHE WOULD
12:25:28PM LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.
12:25:29PM >> YES, SIR.
12:25:33PM THIS IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
12:25:35PM I SUPPORT MR. BENSON'S PRESENTATION, AND I THINK CARROLL ANN
12:25:40PM SAYS SHE DID, TOO, HE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH US
12:25:44PM TALKING TO US.
12:25:51PM THAT'S IT.
12:25:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
12:25:56PM >> MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
12:26:01PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:26:02PM ANY DISCUSSION?
12:26:03PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:26:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:26:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:26:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:26:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:26:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:26:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:26:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:26:16PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:26:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
12:26:20PM COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WOULD LIKE TO -- IT'S GOING TO TAKE AN
12:26:29PM HOUR.
12:26:30PM IT'S GOING TO TAKE AN HOUR.
12:26:31PM THAT'S WHY I AM GOING TO SAY, LET'S GO TO RECESS UNTIL 2:00.
12:26:38PM WOULD THAT BE ALL RIGHT?
12:26:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND I HAVE A 2:30 CALL WHICH WILL PROBABLY
12:26:42PM TAKE 10 OR 15 MINUTES TO DO WHICH I HAVE TO DO FOR
12:26:45PM SOMETHING.
12:26:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS 2:00 FINE?
12:26:49PM >> YES.
12:26:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 2:00.
12:26:51PM RECESS.
12:26:51PM WE ARE IN RECESS.
12:26:52PM [ RECESS ]
1:54:21PM
1:59:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.
2:01:46PM ROLL CALL.
2:01:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
2:01:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
2:01:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
2:01:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
2:01:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
2:01:57PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
2:02:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON
2:02:03PM WILL NOT BE JOINING US, AND HE WILL BE REMOTE IN THIS
2:02:07PM EVENING'S CASES.
2:02:16PM WE ARE GOING TO TAKE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5.
2:02:20PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK WE ARE STILL ON ITEM NUMBER 6 AND
2:02:23PM NOW MOVING INTO THE PRIVATELY INITIATED.
2:02:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6.
2:02:27PM THANK YOU.
2:02:27PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE] -- AMENDMENT REQUEST AND THEN I WILL
2:02:56PM TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT FOR EACH REQUEST TO GET THEIR
2:02:59PM PRESENTATION AND GIVE YOU A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THEY ARE
2:03:01PM REQUESTING, AND THEN WE WILL FOLLOW THAT UP WITH QUESTIONS.
2:03:05PM AFTER THEY ARE PRESENTED WE WILL GIVE THE TIME FRAME, GO
2:03:09PM OVER THE TIME FRAME IN THE NEXT STEP.
2:03:11PM SO LET ME GET TO THE PRIVATELY INITIATED REAL QUICK.
2:03:16PM HERE WE ARE.
2:03:17PM SO THE FOUR THAT WE HAVE, WE'LL START WITH THE FIRST
2:03:23PM APPLICANT, COLIN RICE.
2:03:25PM THIS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND A BONUS PROVISION, AND THIS IS
2:03:28PM FOR THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
2:03:31PM SO THIS REQUEST WOULD AMEND CODE SECTION 27-140, WHICH IS
2:03:35PM THE BONUS PROVISION SECTION OF THE CODE.
2:03:38PM THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD MOSTLY SEE WITH A SITE PLAN ZONING,
2:03:42PM IF AN APPLICANT IS REQUESTING BONUSES OR F.A.R., THEN THAT
2:03:47PM CALCULATES TO DETERMINE THE BONUS AMOUNT.
2:03:50PM THIS REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE COST RATIO WHICH IS A PART OF
2:03:56PM THAT CALCULATION USED TO DETERMINE THAT BONUS.
2:04:00PM IT WOULD BE FROM 10 TO 1 TO 100 TO 1.
2:04:05PM WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY SUBMITTED IT WAS CITY-WIDE.
2:04:07PM THE APPLICANT AMENDED THE REQUEST AND IT WILL PERTAIN TO THE
2:04:11PM CHANNEL DISTRICT ONLY.
2:04:13PM AND WHAT I HAVE DONE IS GIVEN AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE F.A.R.
2:04:17PM PAYMENT WOULD BE, AT THAT 10 TO 1 RATIO AND WHAT IT WOULD BE
2:04:23PM IF IT WERE 100 TO 1 RATIO. IF THIS IS APPROVED FOR THE
2:04:28PM WORKSHOP, IT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH THE VARIOUS PHASES.
2:04:32PM WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, COME BACK TO
2:04:35PM COUNCIL FOR FIRST AND SECOND READING, AND IF THIS WERE
2:04:38PM APPROVED, THIS NEW RATIO WOULD TAKE EFFECT AFTER THE
2:04:42PM ADOPTION OF THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
2:04:45PM AND SO WHAT I AM GOING TO DO RIGHT NOW IS TURN IT OVER TO
2:04:49PM THE APPLICANT.
2:04:50PM I BELIEVE THEY ARE HERE, AND LET THEM GIVE YOU THE
2:04:54PM PRESENTATION.
2:04:55PM AND THEN I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL.
2:04:59PM THANK YOU.
2:04:59PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
2:05:08PM ANDY MAYTS, COLIN RICE WITH THE SHOEMAKER FIRM ON BEHALF OF
2:05:14PM MR. STOLTENBERG, JUST TO TALK ABOUT AN ISSUE OVER IN CHANNEL
2:05:18PM DISTRICT WHERE IF IT WERE PRESENTED, IT WOULD HAVE WORKED
2:05:22PM WITH THE CODE THERE, HAS ALLOWED THE DEVELOPMENT TAKING
2:05:26PM PLACE.
2:05:27PM WHAT'S LEFT OVER THERE NOW, YOU HAVE THE DEVELOPERS FROM
2:05:30PM SMALL PARCELS, THAT BECAUSE OF COST OF CONSTRUCTION AND
2:05:33PM INSTALLATION AND OTHER ISSUES ARE CAUSING US TO GO HIGH AND
2:05:38PM TO LOOK TO MORE POINT TOWERS TO FILL THE PARCELS LEFT IN
2:05:43PM THAT AREA.
2:05:44PM THE BONUS RATIO OF 10 TO 1 WE ARE ASKING BE ADJUSTED TO 100
2:05:48PM TO 1 TO CREATE THE APPLICATION OF AN INCENTIVE TO THE
2:05:51PM DEVELOPER RATHER THAN A DISINCENTIVE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S
2:05:55PM CAUSING WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW TO HAVE TO INCREASE AN F.A.R.
2:05:58PM AND GO HIGH.
2:05:59PM IT IS CAUSING THE DEVELOPER TO HAVE TO PAY IN SOME INSTANCES
2:06:02PM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN BONUS DENSITY COSTS, WHICH KEN WILL
2:06:08PM TALK ABOUT, CAUSED PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THE PROJECTS AND SAY,
2:06:12PM ON PENCIL, WE CAN'T DO THEM.
2:06:14PM SO THE TEXT AMENDMENT IN AND OF ITSELF IS VERY SHORT AND
2:06:17PM SIMPLE.
2:06:17PM TAKE 10 TO 1 WITH 100 TO 1.
2:06:20PM BUT WE BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO REALLY FOSTER SUPPLY, WHICH
2:06:24PM I KNOW COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, IS WANTS TO INCREASE SUPPLY,
2:06:28PM ESPECIALLY IN THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN MEANT TO BE HIGHLY
2:06:31PM DENSE, LIKE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
2:06:35PM WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER
2:06:38PM OF INSTANCES WHERE THE BONUS DENSITY PROVISION AS CURRENTLY
2:06:45PM WRITTEN AND APPLIED HAS REALLY RESULTED IN SIGNIFICANT
2:06:47PM DOLLARS BACK TO THE CITY.
2:06:50PM OFTEN, THOSE BONUS DENSITY ISSUES ARE COVERED WITH OTHER
2:06:53PM AREAS OF CONSTRUCTION, IMPLEMENTATION, AND SO I THINK AS YOU
2:06:58PM SAW EARLIER TODAY, THIS WHOLE BONUS DENSITY CONCEPT IS ONE
2:07:02PM THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE REVIEWED, IS SUGGESTED TO BE
2:07:05PM REVIEWED WITHIN THE CODE, AND WE ARE ASKING THAT YOU ALLOW
2:07:12PM WHAT YOU INTENDED TO ALLOW TO HAPPEN, IS FOR HIGHLY DENSE
2:07:16PM AREAS OF CONSTRUCTION TO TAKE PLACE IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
2:07:21PM SO --
2:07:24PM >> MY NAME IS KEN STOLTENBERG, 1280 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD,
2:07:29PM TAMPA, FLORIDA 33602.
2:07:30PM I AM AN AFFECTED PARTY BY THIS.
2:07:32PM I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO EVERYBODY.
2:07:34PM I AM A PROPERTY OWNER IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
2:07:36PM I WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY WORKED WITH THE CITY TO
2:07:39PM DEVELOP THIS BONUS DENSITY SYSTEM ALMOST 15 YEARS AGO.
2:07:43PM AND WHAT I HAVE SEEN OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME IS THERE
2:07:47PM REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN ANY DEVELOPMENTS, OR THERE MAY HAVE BEEN
2:07:50PM BONUS DENSITY AGREEMENTS EXECUTED WHICH CALLED FOR A LARGE
2:07:53PM PAYMENT.
2:07:53PM THOSE DEVELOPMENTS NEVER HAPPENED SO THE CITY DIDN'T MAKE
2:07:55PM ANY MONEY.
2:07:56PM THE ONLY A APPRECIABLE THING THAT WAS DONE BECAUSE I WAS
2:08:00PM INVOLVED WITH IT, WAS WE DONATED AS PART OF CHANNELSIDE
2:08:04PM ABOUT A THIRD OF THE LAND THAT IS NOW MADISON STREET MARK,
2:08:07PM AS A CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THE BONUS DENSITY.
2:08:10PM TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, I HAVE A PROJECT CALLED ELEVATE 61
2:08:13PM WHICH HAS A BONUS DENSITY WITH THE CITY WITH A PAYMENT OF
2:08:17PM ALMOST $2.2 MILLION.
2:08:19PM SO WHAT THAT EFFECTIVELY DOES IS IT QUADRUPLES THE AMOUNT OF
2:08:23PM IMPACT FEES THAT ONE WOULD HAVE TO PAY TO DEVELOP IN THE
2:08:26PM CHANNEL DISTRICT AS OPPOSED TO DOWNTOWN, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE
2:08:28PM BEEN THAT.
2:08:29PM SO IT'S REALLY ACTING NOW AS A HINDRANCE.
2:08:34PM THE CODE CALLS FOR THIS RATIO TO BE LOOKED AT PERIODICALLY,
2:08:38PM AND BECAUSE THE COSTS OF LAND AND THE COSTS OF BUILDING
2:08:41PM MATERIALS OVER THE PAST 15 YEARS HAVE INCREASED GREATLY,
2:08:45PM ESPECIALLY THE LAND COSTS IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, WATT DOES
2:08:47PM IS IT MAKES THE PROVISION UNWORKABLE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
2:08:51PM SO THE PARCELS TO REACH THEIR HIGHEST AND BEST POTENTIAL,
2:08:55PM YOU REALLY HAVE TO GO HIGH TO GET WATER VIEW AND YOU REALLY
2:08:58PM CAN'T GO OVER 15 OR 16 STORIES AT 3.5 F.A.R.
2:09:02PM SO TO HAVE THE PROVISION WORK AS IT WAS INTENDED TO ENHANCE
2:09:08PM THINGS IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ASKING
2:09:11PM FOR.
2:09:11PM THE OTHER COMPONENT IS KEY.
2:09:13PM WHEN THIS WAS ENACTED, AND THIS IS A GOOD NEWS STORY.
2:09:16PM YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH OF THOSE, BY THE WAY.
2:09:18PM WHEN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT BECAME A CRA, THE ENTIRE CHANNEL
2:09:21PM DISTRICT WAS VALUED AT $37.5 MILLION.
2:09:24PM THAT'S 228 ACRES INCLUDING THE PORT.
2:09:28PM IT IS NOW VALUED AT OVER A BILLION DOLLARS.
2:09:30PM SO THE REVENUE HAS GONE INTO THE CRA ABOUT 200,000 TO ABOUT
2:09:35PM 10 MILLION ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
2:09:36PM SO ALL THE THINGS THAT THE BONUS DENSITY WAS SUPPOSED TO
2:09:39PM ADDRESS HAVE BASICALLY ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED.
2:09:43PM IT'S A VERY SHORT LIST OF THINGS THAT STILL HAS TO BE DONE
2:09:46PM TO DO EVERYTHING IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT PLAN AS FAR AS
2:09:50PM BURYING THE POWER, STREET, SEWER IMPROVEMENT, EVERYTHING.
2:09:55PM EVERYTHING HAS PRETTY MUCH BEEN DONE OR THERE IS MONEY
2:09:58PM AVAILABLE THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS ON HAND OR WILL BE
2:10:02PM AVAILABLE WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO TO MEET MOST OF THE
2:10:05PM GOALS IN THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
2:10:07PM SO THE PURPOSE FOR HAVING THE BONUS DENSITY REALLY DOESN'T
2:10:10PM EXIST ANYMORE, AND AGAIN, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAT'S A
2:10:12PM GOOD THING, BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS DEVELOPED AND IS
2:10:15PM PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL CRAS IN THE STATE.
2:10:18PM WHAT I AM ASKING FOR IS I AM USING A MECHANISM THAT'S
2:10:21PM ALREADY IN THE CODE THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO REVISIT EVERY
2:10:24PM SO MANY YEARS TO MAKE IT WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO BE IN THE
2:10:28PM BEGINNING, AN INCENTIVE TO GO DENSER AS OPPOSED TO A
2:10:32PM DISINCENTIVE.
2:10:33PM RIGHT NOW, WHY WOULD YOU TRY TO DO SOMETHING AT 7 .0 IN THE
2:10:38PM CHANNEL DISTRICT WHEN YOU CAN GO INTO THE CITY, THE CBD AND
2:10:42PM DO SOMETHING AT 10 MONTE 0 AND NOT PAY A DIME?
2:10:45PM SO IT'S HINDERING THE FURTHER REVENUE GENERATION.
2:10:48PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE APPRAISED VALUE OF CHANNEL DISTRICT
2:10:51PM BE 2 BILLION IN FIVE YEARS AND IT PROBABLY WILL BE.
2:10:54PM BUT IT'S SOMEWHAT ANTIQUATED.
2:10:57PM THE PURPOSE FOR IT DOESN'T EXIST BECAUSE THE MONEY IS
2:10:59PM ALREADY THERE.
2:11:00PM THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM THAT MOST GOVERNMENTS HAVE A LOT OF THE
2:11:04PM TIME. IN THIS CASE IT IS, AND AGAIN THAT'S A GOOD STORY.
2:11:07PM SO I WANT TO RESET TO THE WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO
2:11:10PM DO SO HOPEFULLY PEOPLE DO COME IN AND BUILD MORE POINT TOWER
2:11:14PM AND INSTEAD OF PAYING SAY 2 MILLION THEY ARE PAYING 200,000
2:11:18PM THAT GIVES THE CITY AND THE CRA REVENUE IN THE FUTURE TO DO
2:11:21PM MORE GOOD THINGS, BUT THE WAY THAT I LOOK AT IT IS WHERE YOU
2:11:25PM ARE REALLY LOSING MONEY IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT ARE ALL THE
2:11:28PM BASIC PARCELS GENERATING MAYBE 100,000 A YEAR, NOT WORRY
2:11:32PM ABOUT ONE THAT YOU HOPE TO GET AT ONE TIME THE BONUS DENSITY
2:11:36PM PAYMENT OF 2 MILLION, MY ELEVATE PROJECT ONE OF THE REASONS
2:11:41PM IT DIDN'T GET OFFER OFF THE GROUND JUST BEFORE COVID.
2:11:47PM MY PARTNER CALLED COULTER SAID, HEY, KEN, IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE
2:11:51PM TO PAY THIS IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER TO SAY YES.
2:11:54PM AT THAT MARCH 13, 2020, THAT WENT AWAY, BUT I CAN'T SAY
2:11:59PM THAT'S WHY IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT I CAN SAY THAT GOING
2:12:02PM FORWARD, LEAVING IT THE WAY IT IS IS NOT GOOD FOR THE
2:12:05PM CHANNEL DISTRICT AND IT'S GOING TO COST THE CITY OF TAMPA
2:12:08PM TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TAX REVENUE OVER THE NEXT 30
2:12:11PM OR 40 OR 50 YEARS.
2:12:13PM AMENDING IT AS WE ARE SAYING IS GOING TO MAKE THE CITY MORE
2:12:16PM MONEY RIGHT NOW WITH ACTUAL PAYMENTS IF YOU LOOK AT THE
2:12:19PM HISTORY OF WHAT'S HAPPENED AND IT'S GOING TO GENERATE TENS
2:12:21PM OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF NEW REVENUE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
2:12:24PM GOING TO BUILD IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AT A DENSITY RATIO
2:12:27PM THAT'S ALREADY CODIFIED THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE NUMBER AND
2:12:31PM SIZE OF THE PARCELS THAT ARE LEFT.
2:12:32PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
2:12:33PM >> WE THANK THE CITY STAFF, IT'S BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE IN
2:12:39PM THE PROCESS, WORKED TOGETHER TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS AND
2:12:42PM ENSURE THAT WE CAN BRING YOU SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY CAN
2:12:45PM AGREE UPON, AND WE ASK YOU TO LOOK FAVORABLY UPON THE
2:12:48PM RECOMMENDATION.
2:12:48PM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
2:12:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:12:54PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
2:13:04PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:13:06PM IF IT IS COUNCIL'S DESIRE, WE COULD HAVE A MOTION TO
2:13:09PM TRANSMIT THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION,
2:13:13PM PLEASE.
2:13:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I READ HERE IT SAYS STAFF HAS NO
2:13:16PM OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST.
2:13:18PM >>LACHONE DOCK: NO OBJECTION.
2:13:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:13:20PM >> I WOULD DOUBLE CHECK TO MAKE SURE NO ONE ELSE IN THE
2:13:24PM PUBLIC WANTS TO COMMENT.
2:13:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE CHILL BETTERS THAT
2:13:27PM WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS?
2:13:30PM COUNCILMAN GUDES?
2:13:35PM >>
2:13:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A COUNCILWOMAN MEMBER WHO HAS A
2:13:44PM QUESTION.
2:13:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHERE DOES THAT BONUS DENSITY MONEY GO?
2:13:53PM >>LACHONE DOCK: IT'S TYPICALLY A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN
2:13:55PM IDENTIFIED TO A CIP, OR CIP PROJECT, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
2:14:04PM WITHIN THAT AREA, WITHIN THAT AREA, THE PROJECT WILL BE
2:14:08PM IDENTIFIED, AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS THE AGREEMENT IS
2:14:11PM DRAFTED.
2:14:12PM IF COUNCIL APPROVES THAT AGREEMENT, LET'S SAY, WITH THE
2:14:14PM REZONING, BY THE TIME THE DEVELOPER OR THE APPLICANT GETS TO
2:14:19PM PERMITTING AND THEY PERMIT IT, IT COULD BE YEARS LATER.
2:14:22PM SO WE CHECK TO BE SEE IF THAT PROJECT IS STILL OPEN.
2:14:25PM IF THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETE, THEN WE WORK WITH
2:14:28PM MOBILITY TO FIND ANOTHER PROJECT IN THAT AREA WHERE THOSE
2:14:32PM FUNDS COULD BE APPLIED.
2:14:35PM ISSUES WITH INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING?
2:14:43PM >>LACHONE DOCK: IT'S SPECIFIC TO THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
2:14:45PM PROJECT PART OF SIMILAR PROJECTS IN THE AREA.
2:14:48PM AS A PART OF YOUR BONUS DENSITY THAT IS AVAILABLE ON THE
2:14:53PM 27-140, THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO YOU TO ACHIEVE
2:14:56PM BONUS, WHETHER IT'S PROVIDING INCENTIVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
2:15:02PM CURRENTLY THE WAY THE CODE IS STRUCTURED.
2:15:03PM THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER AMENITIES THAT CAN BE PROVIDED FOR
2:15:07PM YOU TO REACH THAT BONUS, OR IF YOU CAN MAKE THE PAYMENT.
2:15:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: KEY WORD HOUSING.
2:15:12PM OKAY.
2:15:12PM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
2:15:16PM >>LACHONE DOCK: YOU'RE WELCOME.
2:15:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHO DO WE HAVE ONLINE?
2:15:21PM >> SANDRA SANCHEZ.
2:15:24PM CAN YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
2:15:27PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
2:15:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS IS STILL AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6,
2:15:30PM CORRECT?
2:15:31PM >> EXCUSE ME, NO.
2:15:33PM I SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 5.
2:15:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S THE REASON WHY I AM ASKING.
2:15:40PM IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 6?
2:15:42PM >>THE CLERK: CAMILLO SOTO. IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE
2:15:50PM UNMUTE YOURSELF.
2:15:51PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
2:15:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SOTO, ARE YOU THERE?
2:16:08PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 6?
2:16:11PM >>THE CLERK: IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
2:16:21PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
2:16:23PM >> I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD AT THIS TIME.
2:16:28PM THANK YOU.
2:16:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:16:29PM IS MS. STEPHANIE POYNOR THERE?
2:16:34PM >>THE CLERK: IF YOU CAN HEAR ME PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
2:16:36PM >> I'M SORRY, I HAD TO DO WORK.
2:16:40PM IS THIS --
2:16:42PM >> NO, MA'AM.
2:16:48PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:16:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO TRANSMIT.
2:16:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO TRANSMIT FROM COUNCILMAN
2:16:54PM MANISCALCO.
2:16:54PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:16:56PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:16:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:17:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:17:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:17:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:17:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:17:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:17:13PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH COUNCILMAN
2:17:15PM CARLSON ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:17:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:17:18PM >>LACHONE DOCK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
2:17:21PM LACHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:17:23PM AND LET'S MOVE TO OUR SECOND PRIVATE AMENDMENT FOR TODAY.
2:17:29PM THIS IS A REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT RICKY PETERIKA, THE
2:17:36PM NATURAL RESOURCES SECTION OF THE CODE, AND IN ADDITION, THIS
2:17:40PM WOULD CREATE FIVE SIMPLE STANDARD.
2:17:43PM THIS WOULD ESTABLISH A 27-283.16 SECTION OF THE CODE, AND
2:17:49PM THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF IN
2:17:52PM ADDITION TO DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION OF THE ZONING
2:17:55PM ADMINISTRATOR, MODIFIED THE LANGUAGE FOR WHAT YOU HAVE
2:17:59PM BEFORE YOU TODAY.
2:18:00PM AND WHAT'S LISTED ARE ALL THE CODE SECTIONS UNDER THIS
2:18:04PM REQUEST.
2:18:04PM SOME OF THE SECTIONS THAT ARE LISTED, THEY ARE
2:18:07PM CLARIFICATIONS IN THE CODE AS IT IS WRITTEN, AND THERE WERE
2:18:12PM UPDATES THAT WERE REQUIRED THAT WERE NEEDED TO THESE
2:18:15PM SECTIONS.
2:18:16PM AND THE DEFINITION OF GRAND TREES WAS THE FIRST
2:18:20PM MODIFICATION, AND SO THE DEFINITION, BUT OTHERWISE THE OTHER
2:18:27PM MODIFICATIONS ARE MINOR, IN SOME CASES, IN MOST OF THE
2:18:31PM CASES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TREE TABLE.
2:18:33PM AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE, AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS
2:18:37PM TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT, BUT THE STAFF HAS NO
2:18:39PM OBJECTIONS TO THIS REQUEST AS PRESENTED.
2:18:43PM THANK YOU.
2:18:43PM >> RICKY PETERIKA, DARK MOSS, 7th AVENUE.
2:18:52PM THANK YOU FOR ENTERTAINING THIS EFFORT TO KEEP THE DAY FROM
2:18:57PM GETTING LONGER, I AM GOING TO TRY TO KEEP BRIEF MY
2:19:02PM PRESENTATION, BUT I AM PROPOSING SEVERAL CLEAN-UP ITEMS FOR
2:19:07PM 27-284, NATURAL RESOURCE SECTION, BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE
2:19:12PM WORKING WITH THE NEW TREE CODE 2019.
2:19:17PM THERE WAS DISCUSSION WHEN WE WERE CONSIDERING THAT CODE,
2:19:20PM REVISITING IT, AND APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS FROM ADOPTING IT.
2:19:28PM THAT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, AND I WANTED
2:19:31PM TO BE THE CHANGE, I WANTED TO SEE, IN SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
2:19:35PM SO I WANTED TO CLARIFY GRAND TREES, BECAUSE DISCUSSIONS WILL
2:19:38PM COME UP BETWEEN ME AND STAFF AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON WHAT A
2:19:42PM GRAND TREE REALLY SHOULD BE, PART OF THE URBAN FOREST
2:19:46PM MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND WHAT I UNDERSTOOD TO BE THE GOALS OF
2:19:48PM THE CANOPY STUDY WHICH IS GOOD QUALITY MATURE TREE CANOPY,
2:19:55PM NOT ALL TREE CANOPIES INCLUDING POOR AND HAZARDOUS TREES
2:19:59PM ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF NEW FLORIDA STATUTE 163.045.
2:20:04PM ANOTHER PROVISION REFLECTING IS A VERY OBVIOUS ONE WITH
2:20:11PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS REQUIRING 4-FOOT DIAMETER TREES, WHICH
2:20:14PM WOULD BE GRAND TREES, TO BE PLANTED BACK FOR ALL NEW
2:20:18PM CONSTRUCTION, A SIMPLE FIX.
2:20:21PM THERE WAS DISCUSSION IN THE PRIOR TREE CODE IN 2019, 2018-19
2:20:26PM ON THE VALUE OF CATEGORY ONE INVASIVE SPECIES, CAMPHOR
2:20:39PM TREES, BUT INCENTIVIZE WETLANDS.
2:20:44PM THAT'S WHAT WAS PROPOSED BEFORE. IT JUST HAPPENED AT THAT
2:20:46PM TIME THAT THE WAY MITIGATION WAS CALCULATED FOR THESE TREES,
2:20:49PM THIS SPECIFIC SPECIES, GRAND TREES REQUIRED LESS MITIGATION
2:20:53PM THAN PROTECTED TREES, PROPOSING A FIX TO THAT, WHICH STAFF
2:20:56PM AGREES.
2:21:00PM THE LANDSCAPE BUFFERING TABLE -- THIS IS VERY GRANULAR BUT
2:21:04PM VERY FRUSTRATING FOR MANY IN DEVELOPMENT.
2:21:07PM IT WAS RESTRUCTURED IN 2019, IN A LESS THAN INTUITIVE WAY,
2:21:13PM JUST GRAPHICALLY, AND CONCEPTUALLY, AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS
2:21:17PM A COPY-PASTE ERROR, TOO.
2:21:19PM SO PROPOSING KIND OF A CLEAN-UP OF THAT AND A
2:21:24PM SIMPLIFICATION.
2:21:25PM THEN THERE IS A PROVISION, I FEEL LIKE COUNCILMAN CITRO
2:21:29PM WOULD MAYBE REMEMBER THIS SITE, HENDERSON AND DALE MABRY
2:21:33PM TRIANGULAR SITE WHERE IT WAS A REDEVELOPED PROPERTY WITH
2:21:37PM PALM TREES, THAT I HAD TO GO BEFORE REQUESTING A VARIANCE
2:21:40PM FOR A RETENTION PERCENTAGE REDUCTION AND COUNCILMAN CITRO
2:21:44PM SAID, WELL, YOU DON'T THAN SEE ANY TREES, AND THERE WAS ONLY
2:21:47PM 15 OR SO PALM TREES ON THE SITE.
2:21:49PM IT'S NOT MY BELIEF THAT THE CANOPY STUDY IN URBAN FORESTRY
2:21:56PM MANAGEMENT PLAN INTENDS TO VALUE ALL TREES EQUALLY.
2:22:00PM SO A PALM TREE IN THE EYE OF THIS SECTION OF THE CODE IS
2:22:04PM EQUAL TO THE GRANDEST GRAND TREE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
2:22:08PM JUST ONE TREE.
2:22:09PM AND IT FREQUENTLY BECOMES A WAIVER ON A REDEVELOPMENT SITE
2:22:15PM THAT I AM TYPICALLY INVOLVED WITH IN REZONING, AND I DON'T
2:22:18PM THINK THE GOAL THAT THAT PROVISION WAS MADE FOR IS IN LINE
2:22:24PM WITH THE CANOPY STUDY AND MANAGEMENT PLAN.
2:22:27PM SO I AM PROPOSING TO PROVIDE A WEIGHTED CRITERIA SIMILAR TO
2:22:31PM THE TREE TABLE WHERE TREES THAT ARE MORE HIGHER VALUE PER
2:22:37PM URBAN MANAGEMENT, ARE GRANTED MORE VALUE THAN TREES THAT ARE
2:22:41PM SMALLER OR EASIER TO REPLACE, A LOWER VALUE, AND THAT THAT
2:22:46PM PROVISION ADDS COMPLEXITY BUT BECOMES OPTIONAL, IF A
2:22:53PM PROFESSIONAL IS INVOLVED AND THEY DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED
2:22:56PM TO THAT LEVEL OF SPECIES I.D. AND NEGOTIATION.
2:23:02PM FINALLY, NUMBER ONE IN THE UNITED STATES, THE PLACE OF
2:23:08PM FRIENDLY BUSINESS, OR THE NUMBER OF BICYCLE FRIENDLY
2:23:12PM BUSINESSES, ORDERED BY THE LEAGUE OF AMERICAN BICYCLISTS,
2:23:16PM JANUARY 2021, IN SPITE OF NO CITY-WIDE BICYCLE PARKING
2:23:23PM DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS OR GUIDELINES.
2:23:29PM EXCEPT FOR TEMPORARY SPECIAL EVENTS.
2:23:31PM NO OTHER USE.
2:23:32PM SO IN DISBELIEF, I DID SOME RESEARCH WITH SOME NEIGHBORING
2:23:37PM JURISDICTIONS, WITH GUIDANCE FROM ABBP AND SUGGESTED WHAT I
2:23:43PM THINK IS A MODEST SET OF PROVISIONS THAT ARE USING BEST
2:23:46PM PRACTICES RECOMMENDED FROM BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVOCATES
2:23:50PM TO PROPOSE A FRAMEWORK FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO STEP INTO
2:23:55PM THE REALM OF STRUCTURED BICYCLE REGULATION.
2:24:02PM I HOPE FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS.
2:24:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:24:06PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
2:24:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE BICYCLE
2:24:10PM PARKING STANDARDS.
2:24:11PM I'M A BICYCLIST, AND IT'S HARD TO FIND BIKE PARKING AND WHEN
2:24:16PM IT IS THERE IT'S NOT ALWAYS GREAT.
2:24:18PM SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS.
2:24:19PM THANK YOU.
2:24:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:24:25PM I KNOW OF AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE THAT SAYING THANK YOU
2:24:28PM ABOUT THE BICYCLE PARKING ALSO, AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE
2:24:32PM PEOPLE.
2:24:33PM MR. PETERIKA, THIS WHOLE CONCEPT AND IDEA ABOUT CAMPHOR
2:24:38PM TREES GOES WAY BACK TO BE WHEN YOU AND I WERE ON THE
2:24:41PM VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
2:24:43PM BELIEVE ME, WE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT WHY THEY WERE
2:24:46PM VALUED AS MUCH AS A GRAND TREE.
2:24:48PM I THANK YOU.
2:24:49PM IS THERE ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS
2:24:53PM PUBLIC COMMENT?
2:24:55PM IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE?
2:24:58PM >>THE CLERK: ONLINE WE HAVE THE SAME TO SPEAK TO, CAMILLO
2:25:01PM SOTO, JEAN STROHMEYER.
2:25:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: QUICKLY, MS. STROHMEYER, ARE YOU THERE?
2:25:11PM MS. POYNOR, ARE YOU THERE?
2:25:13PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
2:25:17PM I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, MR. PETERIKA HAS THE MOST WELL WRITTEN
2:25:23PM PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT THAT I HAVE SEEN, I HAVE
2:25:27PM ACTUALLY READ.
2:25:28PM IT WAS VERY WELL DONE, AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS.
2:25:33PM OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE LEARNED FROM HIM, AND WE WOULDN'T
2:25:36PM HAVE WANTED TO GET RID OF HIM.
2:25:38PM THANK YOU.
2:25:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SOTO, ARE YOU THERE?
2:25:46PM MR. PETERIKA, THANK YOU.
2:25:48PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
2:25:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE STILL
2:25:54PM NUMBER ONE TEN YEARS FROM NOW.
2:25:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
2:25:58PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:26:00PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:26:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:26:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:26:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:26:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:26:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:26:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:26:14PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
2:26:17PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:26:18PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:26:23PM THIS IS THE THIRD REQUEST FOR TODAY.
2:26:26PM THIS IS THE PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT FROM THE APPLICANT
2:26:30PM BRIAN SEEL.
2:26:31PM THIS REQUEST IS TO CREATE TAMPA HEIGHTS DESIGN STANDARDS.
2:26:35PM THIS IS SOMETHING, COUNCIL, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD AT VARIOUS
2:26:38PM REZONING HEARINGS, THE CREATION OF THIS CODE, HOW IT'S IN
2:26:42PM PROCESS.
2:26:43PM SO WE ARE HAPPY TO SAY WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT AT THIS
2:26:46PM STAGE.
2:26:48PM WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS CREATE AN OVERLAY DESIGN DISTRICT AND
2:26:52PM CREATE STANDARDS WITHIN THAT OVERLAY.
2:26:54PM AND THIS WOULD ACTUALLY -- I HAVE A MAP OF THE BOUNDARY IF I
2:27:00PM CAN HAVE THE OVERHEAD BRIEFLY, PLEASE.
2:27:03PM THIS WILL BE INCLUSIVE OF THE TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:27:06PM THIS IS THE BE NORTHERN BOUNDARY, MLK.
2:27:13PM IS MY MAP UP?
2:27:14PM HERE WE GO.
2:27:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF COULD YOU RAISE IT UP JUST A LITTLE BIT
2:27:18PM SO WE CAN SEE THE ENTIRE MAP.
2:27:20PM THANK YOU DOC.
2:27:21PM >>LACHONE DOCK: LET ME ZOOM IN A LITTLE MORE.
2:27:23PM SO THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY IS MLK.
2:27:26PM THE INTERSTATE IS TO THE EAST.
2:27:29PM AND THEN NORTH BOULEVARD, THE CENTER LINE OF NORTH
2:27:33PM BOULEVARD.
2:27:34PM THIS MAP HAS TO BE AMENDED.
2:27:35PM THE WAY IT IS, THE BOUNDARY FOR THIS OVERLAY, BUT IT WAS
2:27:39PM LEFT OUT THE HEIGHTS.
2:27:42PM AREA, THAT AREA AS YOU KNOW HAS CERTAIN DESIGN STANDARDS
2:27:47PM THAT WOULD APPLY TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
2:27:49PM SO THIS GIVES AN IDEA OF THE AREA CONTAINED WITHIN THE
2:27:52PM OVERLAY.
2:27:53PM IF I CAN HAVE THE PowerPoint AGAIN, PLEASE.
2:27:56PM SO THE REQUEST INCLUDES STANDARDS THAT WOULD APPLY TO
2:28:01PM RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, THAT IS THE BULK OF THE STANDARDS
2:28:04PM THAT ARE INCLUSIVE IN THE CHANGE, AND THERE IS A SMALL
2:28:07PM SECTION THAT WOULD APPLY TO COMMERCIAL OR MIXED USE
2:28:11PM DEVELOPMENT.
2:28:12PM AND THAT'S RELATING TO PARKING OFFSET.
2:28:15PM BUT THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES THE RESIDENTIAL
2:28:20PM STANDARDS FOR THINGS LIKE PLACEMENT OF THE BUILDING ENTRIES,
2:28:27PM LODGES, FENCING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
2:28:29PM I'M NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT IS ONLINE, BRIAN SEEL WAS
2:28:32PM GOING TO TRY TO LOG IN, AND PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY.
2:28:36PM I KNOW HE IS OUT OF TOWN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS ANYONE
2:28:39PM ELSE ON THE LINE.
2:28:40PM >> I'M HERE.
2:28:42PM CAN ANYBODY SEE ME?
2:28:44PM >>LACHONE DOCK: HE'S HERE.
2:28:45PM SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO BRIAN TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION.
2:28:49PM AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
2:28:50PM THANK YOU.
2:28:51PM >> BRIAN SEEL: THANK YOU, LACHONE.
2:28:54PM GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
2:28:56PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU
2:29:00PM TODAY.
2:29:03PM IF POSSIBLE, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
2:29:12PM LOOKING TO FOR THE FUNCTION TO DO THAT.
2:29:30PM I APOLOGIZE F.ANYBODY IN THE ROOM CAN ASSIST ME TO SHARE
2:29:34PM SCREEN.
2:29:34PM THERE WE GO.
2:29:35PM THANK YOU.
2:29:42PM ALL RIGHT.
2:29:44PM NOW CAN EVERYBODY SEE --
2:29:47PM >> YES, SIR.
2:29:48PM YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO ENLARGE IT ONE MORE TIME AND MAKE IT
2:29:51PM FULL SCREEN.
2:29:55PM IF NOT, I AM GOOD WITH IT.
2:29:58PM IS THE REST OF COUNCIL GOOD WITH THIS?
2:30:00PM YES.
2:30:00PM GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.
2:30:02PM >> BRIAN SEEL: OKAY.
2:30:04PM UNFORTUNATELY -- THERE WE GO.
2:30:06PM EXCELLENT.
2:30:07PM THANK YOU AGAIN.
2:30:08PM I WANT TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO PRESENT THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
2:30:12PM OVERLAY DISTRICT CODE AMENDMENT.
2:30:14PM IT IS SOMETHING THAT OVERALL YOU WILL RECALL IT HAS BEEN
2:30:19PM MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES WE HAVE WE HAVE REACHED OVER OUR
2:30:23PM OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR OR SO AND MET WITH MANY OF
2:30:26PM YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT THIS.
2:30:32PM THE MAIN GOAL OF THIS COMBED AMENDMENT IS TO ENACT NEW
2:30:35PM STANDARDS TO CREATE A WALKABLE AND TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE URBAN
2:30:39PM DESIGN IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
2:30:43PM AND WE ARE ACCOMPLISHING THAT THROUGH SOME VERY TARGETED
2:30:45PM REFORMS.
2:30:46PM SITE LAYOUT, ACCESS TO ALLEYS, ENCOURAGING FRONT PORCHES,
2:30:52PM ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS WHICH IS IN LINE WITH SOMETHING YOU
2:30:55PM HEARD EARLIER TODAY, RELAXING COMMERCIAL PARKING MINIMUMS,
2:30:58PM AND PRESERVING GREEN SPACE AND PRESERVING ON-STREET PARKING.
2:31:03PM WE REALLY VIEW THIS AS THE COMPREHENSIVE THING THAT TIES
2:31:06PM TOGETHER WITH MANY OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON IN
2:31:09PM THIS CITY, AND WE HAVE HAD A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH
2:31:13PM THE STAFF THAT HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THESE EFFORTS AS WELL
2:31:17PM AS HELPFUL IN THIS, AND OVERALL, HERE IS OUR REQUEST, IS
2:31:24PM THAT WE ASK THE CITY FIRST HELP PASS THIS OVERLAY DISTRICT,
2:31:29PM THEN FOLLOW UP WITH AN UPDATED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN FOR TAMPA
2:31:32PM HEIGHTS.
2:31:33PM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING OFF OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WHICH WAS
2:31:36PM ADOPTED BY COUNCIL IN 2003.
2:31:39PM A LOT OF GREAT CHANGE HAPPENED IN TAMPA HEIGHTS THAT IS IN
2:31:42PM LINE WITH THAT, THAT WE ARE IN NEED OF A BACK.
2:31:47PM WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ESTABLISH A COMMERCIAL PAST DISTRICT
2:31:50PM FOR BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, FOR FRANKLIN, COLUMBUS
2:31:54PM CORRIDORS.
2:31:56PM AND I WILL TOUCH ON A LITTLE BIT OF THOSE ISSUES LATER.
2:32:02PM AND FOLLOW UP THIS OVERLAY WITH A PERMANENT OVERLAY THAT
2:32:06PM REGULATES ALL OF LAND DEVELOPMENT FOR TAMPA HEIGHTS BASED ON
2:32:09PM A HART TOD STUDY.
2:32:10PM THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO US.
2:32:12PM THE WAY WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS OVERLAY IS THIS IS A QUICK
2:32:18PM SURGICAL WAY TO ADDRESS DEVELOPMENT ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN
2:32:23PM GOING ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT IS NOT AS COMPREHENSIVE
2:32:26PM AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS.
2:32:28PM THE HART TOD STUDY WHICH HAS BEEN WORKING FOR PUBLIC
2:32:33PM ENGAGEMENT AND ISSUED THEIR DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS, OUR
2:32:37PM NEIGHBORHOOD IS WHOLEHEARTEDLY BEHIND, AND IT'S FORM-BASED
2:32:41PM CODE AND IT GOES FAR BEYOND WHAT THIS IS, BUT IT WILL TAKE
2:32:45PM MORE TIME TO IMPLEMENT.
2:32:46PM SO WE LOOK AT THIS AS STEP ONE, AND THESE OTHER ITEMS AS
2:32:50PM FOLLOWING STEPS TO THAT.
2:32:53PM THAT ULTIMATELY ARE GOING TO YIELD THE MOST WALKABLE,
2:32:57PM DIVERSIFIED, MIXED-USE AND TRANSIT-FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD IN
2:33:02PM TAMPA.
2:33:04PM I AM GOING TO HIT ON A BRIEF HISTORY OF THIS EFFORT AND WHY
2:33:07PM THIS IS COMING TO YOU IN THE FORM OF A PRIVATELY INITIATED
2:33:10PM TEXT AMENDMENT.
2:33:12PM IN 2000 IT NEARLY MIRRORED THE NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS
2:33:21PM IN 1995, THAT ONLY ENCOMPASSES ABOUT A THIRD OF THE
2:33:24PM NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT WAS NOT THE CONCENTRATION OF
2:33:27PM CONTRIBUTING HISTORIC STRUCTURES IN THE REST OF THE
2:33:29PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:33:31PM UNFORTUNATELY, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GO FURTHER THAN THAT, BUT
2:33:34PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT THAT TIME AND LEADERSHIP WANTED TO
2:33:41PM CONTINUE WITH A FORM-BASED CODE THAT ECHOED THE HISTORIC
2:33:45PM DISTRICT'S REGULATION.
2:33:47PM AND THEY ATTEMPTED TO DO THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
2:33:50PM AFTER SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, WE WERE TOLD WE WERE NEXT IN LINE,
2:33:53PM AND IN 2014 WE WERE PROMISED BY THE CITY FOR FORM-BASED CODE
2:33:59PM OVERLAY THAT WAS GOING TO COMMENCE IN 2015.
2:34:02PM SO WE LOOK AT 2015 AS A KEY YEAR WHEN THAT PROMISE WAS MADE
2:34:06PM THAT THIS WOULD OCCUR.
2:34:07PM EVERY YEAR THEREAFTER, WE PETITIONED THE CITY AND SAID,
2:34:09PM WELL, WHEN IS THIS HAPPENING?
2:34:11PM WHEN ARE WE GETTING AN OVERHAUL?
2:34:14PM WE WERE AFRAID BECAUSE THE ARMATURE WORKS DEVELOPMENT, WE
2:34:19PM KNEW THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN IN-RUSH OF OUT OF STATE, OUT
2:34:23PM OF AREA INTERESTS IN TAMPA HEIGHTS, AND WITHOUT ANY
2:34:25PM ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS TO PROTECT OUR UNIQUE URBAN CHARACTER
2:34:30PM THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A FREE FOR ALL, AND THAT'S REALLY
2:34:33PM WHAT OCCURRED SINCE 2017 WHEN ARMATURE WORKS OPENED.
2:34:37PM THE OVERLAY THEN PUT INTO PLACE IN 2015-2016 AS PROMISED BY
2:34:44PM THE CITY INITIALLY, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE NEEDING TO PRESENT A
2:34:48PM PITA.
2:34:49PM WE PICKED UP THE EFFORTS IN 2019.
2:34:51PM WE ARE GOING TO SEE STAFF AT PLANNING COMMISSION, AND IN
2:34:54PM JULY OF 2021, WE SUBMITTED THIS PETA AND HAVE BEEN WORKING
2:34:58PM WITH STAFF SINCE.
2:35:02PM A LOT OF WORK DONE HERE BUT I WANT TO JUST REFERENCE THAT WE
2:35:06PM DO NOT JUST PURSUE THIS FOR THE SAKE OF SOME FOLKS' OPINIONS
2:35:11PM WHETHER PERSONAL OR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, BUT WE ARE GUIDED
2:35:14PM BY THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION, THE APPROACH TO
2:35:20PM HAVING WALKABLE, MIXED USE PEDESTRIAN, BIKE AND TRANSIT
2:35:25PM FRIENDLY COMMUNITY GOES BACK TO 2003 TO OUR COMMUNITY PLAN,
2:35:30PM AS WELL AS ESTABLISHING THAT WE DO HAVE A VERY HISTORIC
2:35:34PM CHARACTER OF URBAN DESIGN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:35:37PM IT'S ALSO SUPPORTED BY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES, MENTIONED
2:35:41PM NUMEROUS TIMES, THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS BEEN OUT
2:35:46PM PRE-WORLD WAR II DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THROUGHOUT THE CITY
2:35:50PM INCLUDING TAMPA HEIGHTS, AS WELL AS OTHER LAPPING ABOUT HOW
2:35:54PM TO ORIENT THINGS TO THE STREET, HOW TO LOCATE PARKING, HOW
2:36:01PM TO CREATE GOOD, URBAN IN-FILL DEVELOPMENT IN OUR URBAN
2:36:06PM VILLAGES.
2:36:09PM SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE WENT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS
2:36:13PM NOT IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND DID AN ARCHITECTURAL
2:36:16PM INVENTORY, SO THE KEY NUMBER THAT I WANT TO PRESENT TO YOU
2:36:19PM QUICKLY IN HERE IS THE 61%.
2:36:22PM SO WE WORKED UP THROUGH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER EACH YEAR
2:36:28PM HOMES AND DID A WINDSHIELD SURVEY OF THE COMPATIBILITY WITH
2:36:31PM THE URBAN DESIGN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CLASSIFIED THINGS
2:36:34PM REALLY AS PRE- AND POST 2015.
2:36:37PM AND SEEING BOTH THE GREEN, DARK GREEN, WHICH IS PRE-WORLD
2:36:41PM WAR II HOMES AND THE LIGHT GREEN WHICH IS POST WORLD WAR II
2:36:46PM IS THAT 60% OF THE HOMES IN THIS AREA, NOT JUST HOMES BUT
2:36:52PM BUILDINGS OTHER THAN MULTIFAMILY OR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES,
2:36:56PM MEET THAT URBAN LAYOUT.
2:36:59PM AND WHEN YOU SEE IN THE LIGHT RED HERE, THAT'S A LOT OF THE
2:37:04PM POST WORLD WAR II, 1960s, 1950s HOMES THAT ARE BEING
2:37:10PM BOUGHT UP FOR EXPENSIVE SUMS OF MONEY AND TORN DOWN AND
2:37:13PM REPLACED AND THEY ARE NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE CHARACTER OF
2:37:15PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT AS THEY ARE REPLACED, WITH DENSITY
2:37:19PM WHICH WOULD WELCOME, THAT WE WANTED TO BE IN THAT PROPER
2:37:23PM URBAN CHARACTER.
2:37:25PM SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE HERE?
2:37:28PM WELL, LACHONE HAD PREVIOUSLY SHOWN YOU OUR BORDERS, AND I
2:37:33PM JUST WANTED TO AGAIN CALL THAT UP FOR WHERE OUR HISTORIC
2:37:37PM DISTRICT IS AND HOW THAT FITS WITHIN TAMPA HEIGHTS AND
2:37:40PM CLARIFY THAT WE ARE NOT AMENDING THE HISTORIC DISTRICT
2:37:42PM STANDARDS.
2:37:44PM THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS IN OUR
2:37:47PM COMMUNITY THAT WANTED TO EXTEND THE ENTIRE HISTORIC DISTRICT
2:37:50PM TO COVER THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD OR FIND A WAY TO MORE
2:37:54PM STRONGLY ECHO ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS IN THERE, BUT WE
2:37:58PM WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE FOCUSED ON URBAN DESIGN, WHICH IS HOW
2:38:03PM IT AFFECTS PEDESTRIANS AND VEHICLES AND TRANSIT AND BIKING
2:38:08PM AND REAL URBAN LAYOUT WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE WEEDS.
2:38:11PM SO NONE OF THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ARCHITECTURAL STYLES
2:38:15PM OF HOMES AND BUILDINGS.
2:38:18PM SO WHAT I WANT TO SHOW YOU, IF YOU IGNORE THE ARCHITECTURAL
2:38:22PM STYLE BECAUSE THESE ARE SIMILAR EXAMPLES, BUT ALL THESE WERE
2:38:25PM BUILT IN THAT POST 2015 PERIOD, AND I WANT TO POINT OUT SOME
2:38:30PM OF THE THINGS THAT OUR CODE AMENDMENT WILL DO, AND SOME
2:38:33PM ISSUES THAT WE HAD HERE THAT WE ARE SEEKING.
2:38:36PM AS YOU WILL SEE ON THREE OF THESE PHOTOS, YOU HAVE EXTREMELY
2:38:43PM WIDE DRIVEWAYS THAT TAKE UP ALMOST THE ENTIRE FRONT LAWN AND
2:38:49PM CREATE NEW VEHICLE CROSSINGS WHERE FOLKS REGULARLY PARK OVER
2:38:54PM THE SIDEWALK, AND COMPLETELY ELIMINATE OUR ON-STREET
2:39:00PM PARKING, AS WELL AS ELIMINATING GREEN SPACE IN FRONT YARDS,
2:39:03PM WHEN ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE ALLEY ACCESS, AND I MIGHT
2:39:08PM ADD ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE FREE AND CLEAR ALLEY ACCESS
2:39:11PM FOR VEHICLE LOADING, AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY PROVISIONS
2:39:16PM OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
2:39:18PM THE ONE IN THE LOWER CENTER IS, I BELIEVE, EIGHT OR NINE
2:39:24PM TOWNHOMES ORIENTED IN A T.
2:39:26PM WHEN ALL OF THOSE -- THE ONE FACING YOU IS DIRECTLY ON NORTH
2:39:30PM BOULEVARD, WHICH AGAIN FILLS THAT UP WITH CONCRETE AND
2:39:38PM DRIVEWAYS, THE ONE THAT IS INCOMPLETE IN THIS PICTURE IS
2:39:41PM FACING THE STREET TO THE SOUTH, FRONT LOADING, WHEN THIS
2:39:44PM COULD ENTIRELY HAVE HAD ALLEY AND REAR LOADING.
2:39:51PM IN THE PICTURE TO YOUR UPPER RIGHT IS UNIQUE IN THAT IT DOES
2:39:55PM HAVE SMALLER RIBBON CUT BUT DOESN'T MAKE FULL USE OF THE
2:40:00PM ALLEY FOR VEHICLE LOADING AS WELL AS DOES NOT HAVE ANY
2:40:02PM FRONT-FACING DOORS, SO THERE'S NO VISIBILITY ON THE FIRST
2:40:07PM FLOOR FACING THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHICH IS INCREDIBLY
2:40:12PM IMPORTANT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTERACTION ENGAGEMENT.
2:40:16PM HERE ARE SOME PROPOSED EXAMPLES OF HOW THIS HAPPENS AS WELL,
2:40:20PM AS WE ARE AGAIN NOT MAKING USE OF EXISTING ALLEYS, EXCESSIVE
2:40:25PM PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS.
2:40:29PM THE ONE ON THE LOWER IS SOMETHING, SO IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP
2:40:33PM ABOUT THE RECENT ONE, PITA, THAT ALLOWED COURTYARDS BY RIGHT
2:40:45PM ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY.
2:40:46PM THIS ONE ON THE BOTTOM IS A PROJECT BY THAT DEVELOPER IN
2:40:49PM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS ACCESS TO A REAR AND A SIDE
2:40:53PM ALLEY.
2:40:54PM THE SIDE ALLEY IS COMPLETELY IN USE FOR VEHICLE LOADING BUT
2:40:58PM IS SOMETHING THAT OUR CIVIC ASSOCIATION OBJECTED TO, BUT
2:41:01PM THAT WAS NOT -- THE DESIGN EXCEPTION WAS GRANTED NUMBERS BY
2:41:08PM STAFF, AND YOU CAN GET MUCH DIFFERENT DESIGN OUTCOMES.
2:41:12PM THAT PROPERTY EFFECTIVELY ELIMINATES ALL ON-STREET PARKING
2:41:15PM IN FRONT OF IT, APPROXIMATELY 80 FEET OF STREET FRONTAGE
2:41:20PM BECAUSE OF THIS DESIGN.
2:41:22PM BUT IT'S NOT ALL A NEGATIVE STORY.
2:41:24PM THERE ARE COMPATIBLE EXAMPLES.
2:41:26PM THE DIFFICULTY IS THAT AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AS A
2:41:29PM CITY, RIGHT NOW, GIVEN THE FACT THAT TAMPA HEIGHTS, OUTSIDE
2:41:33PM THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, IS ONLY COULD HAVE HAD BY BASIC CITY
2:41:35PM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THERE IS NO REAL WAY TO INTERVENE
2:41:40PM UNTIL SOMETHING GOES TO A REZONING.
2:41:42PM IF THIS CAME BEFORE YOU IN MAY FOR REZONING WITH OUR CIVIC
2:41:45PM ASSOCIATIONS SUPPORT, THIS DEVELOPER WAS EXTREMELY AMENABLE
2:41:51PM TO WORK WITH US, MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO THEIR SITE PLAN.
2:41:55PM WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SITE PLAN, SO THE PLAN IS USING THE
2:42:00PM ALLEY FOR ALL FRONT LOADING OF THESE TOWNHOMES, TO THE SOUTH
2:42:04PM WHICH IS OLA AVENUE WHICH IS SLATED TO BECOME A BIKEWAY IN
2:42:08PM THE CITY AND DOT PLANS IS A BICYCLE FRIENDLY APPROACH TO A
2:42:13PM DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS NO VEHICLE CROSSINGS IN WHAT'S SLATED
2:42:17PM AS A BIKE LANE AS WELL AS WRAPPING THE CORNER WITH PORCHES
2:42:21PM AND VISIBILITY FOR WINDOWS.
2:42:24PM SO THERE ARE GREAT EXAMPLES HAPPENING, AND THIS IS WHAT WE
2:42:27PM WANT TO CODIFY TO HAVE HAPPEN WITHOUT STAFF AND CITIZENS AND
2:42:34PM COUNCIL HAVING TO GO FIGHT ALL THESE.
2:42:37PM AGAIN SOME OF THESE DESIGNS DO SELECTIVELY HAPPEN, BUT YOU
2:42:40PM SEE ON THIS SLIDE IS ALL COMPATIBLE EXAMPLES OF STRUCTURES
2:42:43PM THAT WERE BUILT POST 2015.
2:42:45PM AGAIN, WHEN WE WOULD HAVE HOPED TO HAVE THIS IN PLACE BUT
2:42:51PM WITH YOU CAN SEE THREE OF THESE PHOTOS ARE TOWNHOMES.
2:42:54PM NONE HAVE FRONT-FACING GARAGES.
2:42:56PM ALL USE ALLEY LOADING FOR THEM.
2:43:00PM ON THE TOP LEFT IS A NEW SINGLE-FAMILY HOME THAT AS PART OF
2:43:04PM THIS PITTA IT DOESN'T BAN OUTRIGHT VEHICLE CROSSINGS ON THE
2:43:10PM NAMED STREET, IT JUST INCENTIVIZES USE OF THE ALLEY, AND
2:43:14PM WHERE IT MUST FOR ONE PURPOSE OR ANOTHER USE THAT STREET,
2:43:18PM BUT IT LIMITS THE WIDTH.
2:43:20PM SO HERE YOU SEE A LIMITED WIDTH COMPATIBLE FRONT DRIVEWAY.
2:43:27PM NOW TO DIVE INTO THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THIS PITA.
2:43:30PM INITIALLY IT WAS INTENDED TO COVER JUST RESIDENTIAL ZONED
2:43:34PM AREAS, AGAIN BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS AS A STRATEGIC
2:43:38PM AND SURGICAL APPROACH TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
2:43:41PM AGAIN, TAMPA HEIGHTS NEEDS A MUCH DEEPER COMPREHENSIVE
2:43:45PM APPROACH TO ALL OF OUR ZONING IN OUR URBAN VILLAGE, BUT IN
2:43:48PM ORDER TO CATCH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON, AND
2:43:53PM AGAIN SURGICALLY CORRECT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES, THESE ARE
2:43:59PM BEING BUILT DAY BY DAY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:44:02PM WE INTENDED TO COVER MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL ZONES.
2:44:04PM HOWEVER, IN DISCUSSION WITH STAFF, AND UPON THE COMPLETION
2:44:08PM OF THE TRB STUDY AND DRAFT AS WELL, WE HAVE BEEN WANTING TO
2:44:13PM INCLUDE SOME COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR REGULATION.
2:44:17PM BUT BECAUSE IT GOES SO DEEP INTO THE TOD, WHAT WE WERE
2:44:23PM ENCOURAGED TO DO IS MAKE ADDITIONS AND FIND A WAY TO
2:44:26PM INCENTIVIZE MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON OUR CORRIDORS;
2:44:31PM HENCE THE PORTION OF THIS PITA THAT REDUCES THE MINIMUM
2:44:36PM PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN THE
2:44:40PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:44:40PM SO WHAT YOU ARE SEEING ON YOUR SCREEN RIGHT HERE IS A
2:44:43PM SHINING EXAMPLE OF THE LACK OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN
2:44:47PM TAMPA HEIGHTS.
2:44:50PM YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE
2:44:53PM ARMATURE WORKS DISTRICT WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CRA.
2:44:57PM SOUTH OF THE INTERSTATE WHERE WE ARE CUT OFF FROM DOWNTOWN,
2:45:00PM AND THE GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENED ALONG FRANKLIN STREET TO THE
2:45:03PM SOUTH, YOU ARE PROBABLY ALSO AWARE OF ALL THE GREAT GROWTH
2:45:06PM THAT'S HAPPENED IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ON FLORIDA AVENUE.
2:45:10PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS BEGINS AT MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD
2:45:15PM GOING NORTH AND ALL OF THE WINNING RESTAURANTS THAT GO ON
2:45:20PM FLORIDA AVENUE, WHEN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A VERY SIMILAR
2:45:23PM URBAN FORM TO TAMPA HEIGHTS.
2:45:25PM AND THAT DEVELOPMENT SIMPLY HAS NOT HAPPENED BETWEEN
2:45:28PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND DOWNTOWN, AND PART OF THAT ISSUE IS
2:45:33PM WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IS ALL SURFACE PARKING.
2:45:36PM SO THE PICTURE ON YOUR RIGHT, YOU WILL SEE FRANKLIN STREET,
2:45:39PM WHICH IS ONE OF OUR KEY URBAN, SMALL DOWNTOWN-LIKE STREETS
2:45:44PM THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO FILL IN WITH THIS.
2:45:47PM THERE'S A REASON THAT DEVELOPMENT HASN'T CREPT UP NORTH OF
2:45:50PM DOWNTOWN, OR EAST FROM THE ARMATURE WORKS SITE, IS BECAUSE
2:45:56PM THERE'S FAR TOO STRICT OF PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO CREATE
2:46:00PM WALKABLE FORM HERE THE SAME GOES FOR THE COLUMBUS DRIVE AND
2:46:05PM TAMPA STREET AND FLORIDA AVENUE CORRIDOR, WHICH IS THE NODE
2:46:12PM OF TAMPA HEIGHTS.
2:46:13PM TAMPA HEIGHTS IS SEPARATED FROM THE NORTH HALF AND THE SOUTH
2:46:16PM HALF BY COLUMBUS DRIVE, AND IT'S REALLY IN ALL OF THE PLANS
2:46:20PM THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED FOR TAMPA HEIGHTS IS THE COMMERCIAL
2:46:24PM HUB OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE SEED TO SEE THIS IN-FILL
2:46:26PM WITH GREAT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S NEVER GOING TO
2:46:29PM HAPPEN WITH SUCH HIGH PARKING REQUIREMENTS AS OUR STANDARD
2:46:34PM IN THE CITY CODE.
2:46:35PM AND SO REALLY WE WANT TO TACKLE PORTIONS OF THIS PITA FOR
2:46:40PM THE RESIDENTIAL INCOMPATIBILITY, AND INCENTIVIZING USE OF
2:46:45PM THOSE ALLEYS FOR PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS, WE WANT A MORE
2:46:49PM WALKABLE COMMUNITY, AND WE WANT MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT
2:46:54PM INCENTIVIZE THAT'S GOING TO OUR QUICKLY DENSIFYING
2:46:59PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:46:59PM MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH LEES' GROCERY IN TAMPA
2:47:02PM HEIGHTS.
2:47:03PM THAT'S ONE OF OUR KEY MODELS OUT THERE, YOU HEARD SEVERAL
2:47:06PM TIMES AS THE BEST PIZZA IN TAMPA, CRAFT BEER AND PIZZA PLACE
2:47:11PM THAT HAS ZERO OFF-STREET PARKING SPOTS.
2:47:14PM BUT IN ORDER TO TAKE THE PARTICULAR RISK AND GO THROUGH
2:47:18PM THAT, THERE'S SO MANY HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH IN ORDER TO BE
2:47:22PM GRANTED RELIEF FROM THESE PARKING MINIMUMS, BUT IF WE
2:47:26PM PRESERVE OUR ON-STREET PARKING BY USING OUR ALLEYS, THEN WE
2:47:30PM LEAVE THAT ON-STREET PARKING OPEN FOR GUESTS OF RESIDENTS AS
2:47:36PM WELL AS GUESTS OF OUR BUSINESSES, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE AWAY
2:47:40PM OUR OFF-STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR SMALL BUSINESS AS
2:47:44PM WELL AS LIMITING THEM FOR LARGER COMMERCIAL SITES AND REALLY
2:47:47PM BRING INFLUX OF DEVELOPMENT TO TAMPA HEIGHTS.
2:47:52PM SO WITH THAT I WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION AND OPEN FOR
2:47:56PM QUESTIONS.
2:47:56PM THANK YOU.
2:47:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SEEL?
2:48:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE ALLEY,
2:48:07PM PROVIDED THEY ARE WIDE ENOUGH TO MAKE A TURN INTO THE ALLEY.
2:48:13PM WE GET 18 OR 20 FEET, I FORGET WHAT IT WAS, TURNING RATIO OR
2:48:18PM SOMETHING.
2:48:18PM >>LACHONE DOCK: YES, THEY MUST MEET THE TECHNICAL
2:48:21PM STANDARDS.
2:48:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:48:25PM ANYBODY ELSE?
2:48:26PM COUNCILMAN GUDES?
2:48:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
2:48:27PM >>LACHONE DOCK: THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO BY THE APPLICANT AS
2:48:33PM SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME IN THE FUTURE.
2:48:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
2:48:40PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
2:48:48PM OPPORTUNITY.
2:48:48PM ANY BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT OR ANY SPECIAL TAXING
2:48:51PM DISTRICT WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE THIS BODY, WOULD HAVE TO
2:48:55PM GO THROUGH EXTENSIVE COMMENTS, SO IT'S AN IDEA BY THE
2:48:59PM APPLICANT, THEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER AT A
2:49:02PM FUTURE TIME AND REQUEST MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
2:49:06PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
2:49:11PM >> BRIAN SEEL: CORRECT, IF I COULD CHIME IN ON THAT. AND
2:49:14PM THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE ARE REQUESTING AS PART OF THIS
2:49:17PM OVERLAY.
2:49:17PM THAT IS AGAIN PART OF THE FUTURE STEPS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO
2:49:20PM TAKE AND DISCUSS WITH COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF.
2:49:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TO COUNCILMAN VIERA'S POINT -- EXCUSE ME,
2:49:30PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S POINT, WE HAD PASSED SOMETHING ABOUT
2:49:34PM ALLEYWAY PARKING THAT HAS BEEN CHALLENGED REPEATEDLY SINCE
2:49:38PM IT HAS GONE THROUGH.
2:49:40PM SO AGAIN I AM HOPING THAT THE STANDARDS CAN BE THERE FOR
2:49:45PM THESE ALLEYWAYS SO THAT THAT ALLEYWAY PARKING IS NOT
2:49:50PM CHALLENGED REPEATEDLY OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
2:49:53PM ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:49:55PM >>LACHONE DOCK: CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY.
2:49:59PM LACHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:50:00PM I JUST WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD, I DID MENTION THAT THIS
2:50:03PM WORK IS THE CREATION OF THE TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY SO THIS
2:50:06PM WOULD CREATE CODE SECTION 27-244.
2:50:09PM THIS WOULD ALSO AMEND 27-153.
2:50:13PM AS PART OF THIS REQUEST, THE ADUS WILL BE ALLOWED AS
2:50:18PM PERMITTED USE WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS DISTRICT, SO THAT
2:50:22PM WOULD AMEND THAT TABLE.
2:50:23PM I DID NOT LIST THE CODE SECTIONS, AND I APOLOGIZE.
2:50:26PM I HAVE THE PROPOSED READING IN THE SLIDE ITSELF BUT I JUST
2:50:29PM WANTED TO PUT ON THE RECORD THOSE ARE THE TWO SECTIONS OF
2:50:32PM CHANGE WITH THIS REQUEST.
2:50:34PM AND THAT'S THE LANGUAGE YOU HAVE IN YOUR RECORD.
2:50:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. FEELEY, I SAW YOU GET UP.
2:50:42PM IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD?
2:50:44PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION GIVEN THIS MORNING
2:50:47PM IN CREATING AD USE THROUGHOUT THE CITY I ADOPT KNOW THAT WE
2:50:51PM WOULD NEED TO CHANGE THE USE TABLE IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM IN
2:50:56PM TAMPA HEIGHTS.
2:50:57PM THINK WE ARE GOING TO NOW HAVE THEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS A
2:50:59PM SPECIFIED USE, SO I CAN DISCUSS THAT WITH MS. DOCK.
2:51:03PM BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO THAT AT
2:51:06PM THIS TIME.
2:51:07PM SO AD USE WILL NOW BE COMING FORWARD, AS A SPECIFIED USE
2:51:11PM F.MR. SEEL HAS ANY DIFFERENTIAL TO WHAT WAS DISCUSSED THIS
2:51:16PM MORNING IN TERMS OF THE ADU, HE CAN GET WITH STAFF ON THAT
2:51:19PM BEFORE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS SPECIFIC CRITERIA
2:51:22PM RUNNING WITH THE ADU FOR THE INCLUSION IN TAMPA HEIGHTS BUT
2:51:25PM WE WILL GET THAT WORKED OUT.
2:51:26PM >> BRIAN SEEL: IF I MAY, MAY I ADD A COMMENT TO THAT?
2:51:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURE, MR. SEEL, PLEASE.
2:51:36PM >> THANK YOU.
2:51:38PM YES, THIS AGAIN IS SOMETHING THAT OUR RESIDENTS AND THE
2:51:43PM LEADERSHIP OF OUR CIVIC ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN VERY STRONGLY
2:51:47PM ABOUT IN DEALING WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
2:51:51PM AGAIN, WE SUBMITTED THIS PITA ELEVEN MONTHS AGO, AND WITH
2:51:57PM THAT PROVISION INCLUDED TO ALLOW AD USE BY RIGHT ACROSS THE
2:52:01PM NEIGHBORHOOD, AS SOMETHING THAT IS APPROPRIATE TO HISTORIC
2:52:04PM NEIGHBORHOODS, AND OCCURS QUITE FREQUENTLY LIVE BUT ALSO
2:52:08PM AFFORDABILITY AS WE HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST CRUNCHED
2:52:11PM AREAS OF THE CITY WITH CHANGE IN AFFORDABILITY.
2:52:15PM SO I WOULD BE GLAD TO DISCUSS HOW THAT CAN BE APPROPRIATELY
2:52:20PM WORDED IN THIS TEXT AMENDMENT WITH STAFF RUNNING PARALLEL TO
2:52:26PM WHAT COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING CITY-WIDE OR ACROSS CENTRAL
2:52:30PM TAMPA, BUT I DO WANT TO BE SURE THAT IT IS INCLUDED FOR
2:52:35PM TAMPA HEIGHTS DESPITE WHAT ACTION MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN WITH
2:52:39PM THE PARALLEL CODE CHANGES.
2:52:41PM THANK YOU.
2:52:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IN CHAMBERS?
2:52:46PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I HAVE WORKED WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
2:52:53PM DEVELOPMENT INDIVIDUALS AND COMPANIES IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
2:52:57PM AREA, AND I JUST HAVE ONE CONCERN, AND THAT IS MANDATING THE
2:53:03PM USE OF THE ALLEYS.
2:53:05PM THERE ARE MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN YOU CAN'T USE THAT.
2:53:09PM AND IF YOU MAY RECALL, A MONTH OR SO AGO, YOU ALL REMOVED
2:53:13PM THAT REQUIREMENT FROM THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY FOR THE VERY
2:53:17PM REASONS THAT I AM SPEAKING ABOUT.
2:53:19PM SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE USE OF THE ALLEY RECOMMENDED AS
2:53:23PM OPPOSED TO MANDATED, WE CAN SUPPORT THAT.
2:53:27PM BUT ONCE YOU START MANDATING EXACTLY HOW YOU DESIGN A
2:53:30PM BUILDING AND HOW YOU ACCESS IT, I THINK YOU RUN INTO
2:53:33PM PROBLEMS, BECAUSE TAMPA HEIGHTS, JUST LIKE OTHER PARTS OF
2:53:36PM THE CITY, ARE NOT THE SAME, IT'S NOT HOMOGENEOUS, IT'S NOT
2:53:42PM THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE AREA.
2:53:43PM YOU HAVE DIFFERENT WIDTHS OF ALLEYS, DIFFERENT WIDTHS AND
2:53:47PM LENGTHS OF LOTS AND YOU HAVE DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
2:53:50PM SO THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT.
2:53:54PM I WORK WITH BRIAN QUITE A BIT AND SUPPORTIVE OF THE OTHER
2:53:58PM RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY ARE MAKING.
2:53:59PM HOWEVER, I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU NOT MANDATE THE
2:54:03PM ACCESS VIA ALLEY.
2:54:05PM YOU CAN RECOMMEND IT BUT I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT YOU
2:54:08PM MANDATE THAT.
2:54:11PM I THINK IN SOME BRIEF DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHERS THAT THEY HAVE
2:54:14PM SIMILAR CONCERNS AS WELL.
2:54:15PM BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
2:54:17PM AND I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU REMOVE THE MANDATE
2:54:20PM FROM THE ALLEYS.
2:54:22PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:54:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN HURTAK.
2:54:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS MR. SEEL STILL ON THE LINE?
2:54:28PM >> YES, I AM.
2:54:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE ON OUR SLIDE IT SAYS THAT ALLEY
2:54:32PM ACCESS IS ENCOURAGED.
2:54:34PM WHAT IS YOUR ACTUAL LANGUAGE?
2:54:37PM >> SO I BELIEVE THE CURRENT ACTUAL LANGUAGE DOES REQUIRE IT.
2:54:43PM HOWEVER, THERE ARE RELIEF VALUES VALVES FOR THAT.
2:54:48PM SO LET ME HOLD THIS UP AND I CAN READ IT VERY QUICKLY TO
2:54:52PM YOU.
2:55:00PM ALL NEW DRIVEWAYS FOR ZONING LOTS LESS THAN 70 FEET IN WIDTH
2:55:04PM SHALL ORIENT ALL NEW VEHICULAR ACCESS THROUGH AN ADJACENT
2:55:08PM IMPROVED ALLEY. PARCELS WHICH DO NOT ABUT AN ALLEY OR ABUT
2:55:14PM AN ALLEY THAT IS NOT NAVIGABLE BY A VEHICLE MAY PROVIDE THE
2:55:17PM ALLEY TO CITY STANDARDS OR PROVIDE ALLEY ACCESS PURSUANT TO
2:55:19PM THE TABLE BELOW.
2:55:21PM FOR PARCELS OF EXISTING DRIVEWAYS WHICH WILL REMAIN WITHOUT
2:55:25PM IMPROVEMENT SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO THIS CRITERIA.
2:55:28PM MODIFICATION OF EXISTING DRIVEWAYS ARE SUBJECT TO THIS
2:55:31PM CRITERIA AT THE DETERMINATION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR,
2:55:36PM AND GOES INTO A LITTLE FURTHER DETAIL ABOUT IRREGULAR LOTS
2:55:40PM AND SUCH.
2:55:41PM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT, THAT THIS IS THE FIRST I HEARD
2:55:44PM ABOUT THE DISTRICT FROM MR. MICHELINI.
2:55:47PM WE DO WORK TOGETHER ON QUITE A FEW CASES, OPPOSITE SIDES OF
2:55:51PM THE TABLE, BUT WE HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP ON THE
2:55:54PM CLIENTS HE REPRESENTS.
2:55:57PM HOWEVER, REALLY MAKING THIS, WATERING IT DOWN IN STRENGTH IS
2:56:02PM REALLY GOING TO DEFEAT SOME OF THE PURPOSE OF THIS, WHICH IS
2:56:08PM CREATING A WALKABLE COMMUNITY THROUGH GOOD URBAN DESIGN.
2:56:11PM AND I MIGHT ADD THAT WE HAVE PUBLICLY ADVERTISED THIS IN
2:56:17PM EVERY ONE OF OUR ASSOCIATION E-MAILS FOR OVER A YEAR, AS
2:56:20PM WELL AS POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE, READ IT ALOUD AT NEARLY EVERY
2:56:26PM MONTHLY ASSOCIATION MEETING, IF NOT DISCUSSED CERTAIN
2:56:31PM DETAILS OF IT.
2:56:31PM I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN OPEN CITIES OVER THE COURSE
2:56:35PM OF A YEAR FROM ANYONE.
2:56:36PM IN FACT, WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF WRITTEN ENDORSEMENT BY
2:56:41PM OTHERS IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
2:56:43PM I MYSELF IN THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, AND I
2:56:48PM THINK THERE'S SOME THAT MAY DISAGREE WITH THIS, BUT THERE'S
2:56:52PM GOING TO BE OTHERS THAT SUPPORT IT, THAT SEE THAT UNIQUE
2:56:55PM HISTORIC URBAN VILLAGE CHARACTER THAT THE COMP PLAN TALKS
2:57:01PM ABOUT AND SUPPORTS AND ALL OTHER DOCUMENTS SUPPORT.
2:57:04PM THIS IS A WAY TO HELP CREATE AND ENFORCE THAT UNIQUE
2:57:08PM CHARACTER.
2:57:11PM AND SO WE WOULD BE GLAD TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH EVERYONE IN
2:57:13PM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS.
2:57:16PM SOME OF THE PICTURES I SHOWED YOU PREVIOUSLY, THE
2:57:18PM PRESENTATION OF WHAT WE CALL INCOMPATIBLE URBAN DESIGN, I
2:57:24PM HAVE POINT BY POINT DISCUSSED WITH THE DEVELOPER OF THREE OF
2:57:28PM THOSE PROPERTIES, AND WORKING TOGETHER TO TWEAK THE CODE TO
2:57:33PM SOMETHING THAT'S PALATABLE TO THAT COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE
2:57:38PM THE SUPPORT OF SOME VERY NOTABLE DEVELOPERS IN THE
2:57:42PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:57:43PM I KNOW ADAM HARDIN OF SOHO CAPITAL SPOKE TO YOU ALL IN
2:57:48PM SUPPORT OF THAT.
2:57:49PM SO I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE THAT COULD OPPOSE IT, BUT
2:57:53PM I DON'T THINK THAT IS ANYWHERE CLOSE TO REPRESENTATIVE OF
2:57:56PM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
2:57:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. SEEL.
2:57:59PM WE HAVE COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH BE A QUESTION.
2:58:03PM WHO IS THIS DIRECTED TO?
2:58:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, TO MR. SEEL AND MR. MICHELINI, TOO.
2:58:09PM FOR ME, WHEN I LOOK AT THESE ALLEYS IN THE CITY, THEY ALL
2:58:14PM VARY IN DIFFERENT SIZES AND SHAPES.
2:58:16PM SOME OF THEM ARE UNDRIVABLE.
2:58:18PM SO TO MANDATE, TAMPA HEIGHTS, SOME OF THEM ARE DRIVABLE SO I
2:58:27PM WOULD HATE TO JUST PUT A MANDATE THAT I YOU MAY HAVE TO DO
2:58:31PM AN ALLEYWAY WHEN YOU CAN'T CREATE THE ALLEYWAY.
2:58:35PM SO IF YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH TO WHERE THERE ARE SOME
2:58:38PM EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES, BECAUSE EVERY BLOCK IS NOT -- YOU
2:58:42PM HAVE SOME ALLIES THAT HAVE BIG TREES IN THEM.
2:58:45PM YOU LOOK OVER AMELIA NOW, THE ALLEYWAY WITH THE FLOODING,
2:58:49PM THE ALLEYWAY OVER THERE AS WELL.
2:58:51PM SO AGAIN IT'S A CONCERN ABOUT MANNING, THE ALLEY, BECAUSE WE
2:58:56PM ARE NOT FIXING THE ALLEY.
2:58:57PM I DON'T KNOW IF THE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO FIX AN ALLEY
2:59:00PM BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AGAIN ON AMELIA, WITH THE POOL, WITH THE
2:59:05PM CONSTRUCTION HIGHER AND LOWER FLOODING, BUT A LOT OF
2:59:10PM CONCERNS, SO I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT MANDATING THE ALLEY.
2:59:18PM I THINK THERE ARE SOME UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES BUT I REALLY
2:59:23PM DON'T KNOW ABOUT MANDATING THAT, CLOSURE OF THE ALLEY.
2:59:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:59:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOING TO COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH YOU
2:59:29PM ON THAT, BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE ALLEY ACCESS YOU ACTUALLY ARE
2:59:33PM ADDING MORE PARKING.
2:59:34PM YOU ARE ADDING ON-STREET PARKING AS WELL AS GARAGE AND
2:59:37PM DRIVEWAY PARKING.
2:59:38PM AND AS FOR THE ALLEY SIZE AND WIDTH, THAT'S THE CITY'S
2:59:42PM PROBLEM.
2:59:43PM WE HAVEN'T MAINTAINED THOSE.
2:59:46PM NO, IT IS OUR PROBLEM.
2:59:48PM AND WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND WORK ON THOSE IN THE WEST
2:59:51PM TAMPA OVERLAY, THEY ARE REQUIRING DEVELOPERS TO FIX THOSE,
2:59:57PM OR DEVELOPERS REFUSING TO FIX THOSE.
2:59:59PM IF YOU WANT TO COME INTO AN URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE TAMPA
3:00:02PM HEIGHTS, THIS IS HOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPS.
3:00:05PM DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO BIKE ON A STREET LIKE THAT
3:00:08PM WITH CONSTANT DRIVEWAYS?
3:00:10PM THAT'S NOT HOW THIS URBAN CORE WAS DEVELOPED.
3:00:13PM SO I DON'T DISAGREE THAT SOME OF THE ALLEYS CAN BE. DID I.
3:00:17PM LET'S FIND A WAY TO MAKE THEM BETTER INSTEAD OF SAYING,
3:00:21PM WELL, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE MORE DRIVEWAYS BECAUSE MORE
3:00:23PM DRIVEWAYS IN THE URBAN CORE IS ABSOLUTELY NOT OKAY.
3:00:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:00:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THAT EVERYTHING IS FINE,
3:00:33PM IS NOT FINE.
3:00:33PM I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THERE ARE SOME ALLEYS ON WEST TAMPA THAT
3:00:36PM ARE BUILT WHERE YOU HAVE TO ENTER THROUGH THE BACK.
3:00:38PM THERE'S ONE ON THE CORNER OF SPRUCE AND MacDILL, THE NEW
3:00:43PM DEVELOPMENT DOWN THERE, YOU PARK IN THE BACK.
3:00:46PM THERE'S A HOUSE CURRENTLY BUILT JUST ON THE CORNER OF
3:00:50PM MACNEIL ACROSS THE STREET FROM ST. JOSEPH SCHOOL, THAT YOU
3:00:54PM PARK IN THE BACK.
3:00:55PM BUT THERE'S MANY, MANY ALLEYS IN WEST TAMPA FIRST OF ALL
3:00:58PM THAT HAVE BEEN CLOSED SINCE THE 30s AND MAYBE THEY DIDN'T
3:01:03PM EVEN HAVE ONE BECAUSE I WASN'T AROUND IN THE 30s BUT I WAS
3:01:06PM CLOSE TO IT.
3:01:07PM THE NEXT THING WAS THERE ARE SOME ALLIES, AND YOU SAY IT'S
3:01:10PM THE CITY'S PROBLEM.
3:01:12PM WELL, IF IT'S NOT THE CITY'S PROPERTY THEN THE CITY HAS TO
3:01:14PM BUY -- I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ALLEY IS.
3:01:17PM I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
3:01:19PM I AM NOT TRYING TO DEBATE ANYONE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
3:01:22PM SPECIFICATIONS WERE.
3:01:23PM TAMPA HAS ABOUT -- A 35-FOOT LOT, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE AN
3:01:28PM 80 FOOT LOT NEXT TO IT.
3:01:30PM THERE ARE MANY THINGS IN TAMPA THAT MAKE SENSE AND DON'T
3:01:33PM MAKE SENSE.
3:01:33PM I CAN'T CATCH A MULLET, I MAY CATCH A SHARK OR A MINNOW
3:01:39PM BECAUSE THE ALLEYS ARE DIFFERENT.
3:01:40PM THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING.
3:01:41PM >> IF I COULD, COUNCIL, I AM NOT SAYING GET AWAY WITH THE
3:01:47PM REQUEST.
3:01:48PM JUST DON'T MANDATE IT WHEN YOU HAVE MITIGATING
3:01:50PM CIRCUMSTANCES.
3:01:51PM AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF THEM.
3:01:52PM AND IF YOU HAVE A MIXED PROJECT WHERE YOU HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY
3:01:55PM AND MULTIFAMILY, OR TOWNHOUSES, YOU CAN ACCESS THE ALLEY OFF
3:02:00PM A PORTION OF IT, BUT NOT ON THE SINGLE FAMILY SIDE.
3:02:05PM SO THERE ARE SOME CONDITIONS THAT YOU CAN'T SIMPLY MEET.
3:02:07PM AND I THINK THAT BY REDUCING THAT MANDATE, AFTER YOU JUST
3:02:11PM REMOVED THE MANDATE FROM WEST TAMPA, IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT
3:02:14PM OF SENSE.
3:02:15PM BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
3:02:19PM AND WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT IT IN THE FUTURE I'M SURE.
3:02:22PM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:02:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. FEELEY?
3:02:27PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU.
3:02:29PM WITHOUT MR. SEEL IN CHAMBERS IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT BUT I
3:02:33PM WANT TO ADD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
3:02:34PM RIGHT NOW WITH THE AD BIs THOSE ARE SPECIAL USE 1 IN
3:02:38PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND IN THE OTHER AREA, LIKE SULPHUR
3:02:42PM SPRINGS, AND IF WE COULD AMEND THIS REQUEST TO ALSO LET THIS
3:02:45PM BE AN S-1 HERE.
3:02:47PM I UNDERSTAND HE WANTS IT TO MOVE FORWARD AND NOT DELAY UNTIL
3:02:51PM WE COME BACK HANDLING THIS CITY-WIDE, IF WE COULD DO THAT,
3:02:56PM BECAUSE BY ALLOWING IT AS A PERMITTED USE WITH THOSE
3:02:59PM CRITERIA, THERE'S NO APPELLATE RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT HE
3:03:03PM HAS IT WRITTEN, IF THEY DON'T MEET ONE OF THOSE CRITERIA, TO
3:03:09PM THEN ALLOW FOR IT, SO IF WE PUT IT IN AS AN S-1 THAT'S
3:03:15PM CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY THE CODE IS NOW FOR THOSE OTHER TWO
3:03:17PM AREAS, WE CAN THEN LET IT PROCEED, AND THEN WHEN WE AMEND
3:03:20PM EVERYTHING, WE CAN BRING IT FORWARD WITH THAT AS WELL.
3:03:23PM BUT THAT I THINK WOULD SOLVE HIS ISSUE FOR WANTING TO THE
3:03:26PM MOVE FORWARD NOW.
3:03:27PM BUT OUR ISSUE FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE PROCESS ALLOWS FOR IT
3:03:33PM TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN AN EFFECTIVE WAY.
3:03:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SEEL, ARE YOU AGREEABLE TO THAT?
3:03:38PM >> BRIAN SEEL: WITHOUT FURTHER SORT OF DETAILS OR THE
3:03:47PM ABILITY TO CONFER WITH THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION
3:03:53PM BOARD OF DIRECTORS, I INITIALLY COULD SAY YES, THAT APPEARS
3:03:57PM TO BE A REASONABLE AND LEGAL FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
3:04:02PM BUT AGAIN WHILE THIS MAY BE LEGALLY BOUND BY MY NAME BECAUSE
3:04:07PM OF CITY REQUIREMENTS, THIS IS AN EFFORT OF THE CIVIC
3:04:10PM ASSOCIATION.
3:04:11PM SO I CANNOT FULLY AND COMPLETELY COMMIT TO THAT WITHOUT
3:04:16PM THEIR FEEDBACK.
3:04:16PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT'S OKAY.
3:04:18PM WE STILL HAVE SOME TIME, I THINK.
3:04:20PM SO IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE BOARD AND FIGURE THAT
3:04:23PM OUT, I THINK WE STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE CARE OF
3:04:25PM THAT IN THAT WAY.
3:04:27PM IF NOT WE'LL NEED TO WORK THROUGH IT AS A PERMITTED USE.
3:04:30PM BUT RIGHT NOW THEY ARE NOT PERMITTED ANYWHERE IN THE CITY,
3:04:33PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO CONTINUE TO HAVE OUR CODE BE
3:04:36PM CONSISTENT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE HANDLE IT AS A MATTER OF
3:04:40PM CITY-WIDE.
3:04:40PM THANK YOU.
3:04:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. PETERIKA.
3:04:43PM >> RICKY PETERIKA.
3:04:48PM I RESIDE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND MY FIRM
3:04:51PM DOCK MOSS ALSO IS LOCATED IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC
3:04:54PM DISTRICT.
3:04:56PM EARLY ON IN THE CRAFTING OF THIS OVERLAY GUIDANCE, I
3:05:02PM VERBALLY EXPRESSED SOME OF THE RESERVATION I HAD TO MR. SEEL
3:05:07PM ABOUT SOME OF THE PROVISIONS.
3:05:09PM I THINK MOST OF THOSE HAVE BEEN SHED SINCE TIED TO THE
3:05:17PM VISION PLAN, GOALS OF PEDESTRIAN WALKABILITY AND URBAN FORM.
3:05:22PM BUT I HAD SOME MINOR CONCERNS THAT I DON'T WANT TO DERAIL
3:05:28PM ANYTHING PER SE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF THERE'S A
3:05:31PM MECHANISM THAT YOU CAN REQUEST SOME CONSIDERATION FOR THESE
3:05:35PM AS IT CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT I WOULD ASK THAT WE DO
3:05:39PM THAT.
3:05:42PM IF I COULD GO THROUGH SOME POINTS.
3:05:44PM TO THE ELMO.
3:05:45PM THERE IS A BLANKET EXCLUSION OF CHAIN LINK FENCES.
3:05:49PM AND I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE I AM DEFENDING CHAIN LINK.
3:05:52PM BUT THERE IS A CHARACTER OF LIMITED CHANGE LINK USAGE
3:05:59PM THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HISTORICALLY, AND EVEN IN SOME
3:06:04PM MODERN TIMES, INCLUDING IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT I
3:06:09PM DON'T THINK A BLANKET EXCLUSION IS THE INTENT OF THE
3:06:14PM GUIDELINES IN ANY LOCATION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
3:06:20PM THAT'S MAJOR, BUT I JUST WANT TO KIND OF POINT OUT.
3:06:24PM AND I WILL WITHDRAW THE REST OF THE STEPS.
3:06:28PM YOU HAVE BEEN BEATING UP THIS ALLEY ISSUE AND I DON'T
3:06:30PM DISAGREE WITH THE INTENT OF WANTING TO USE THE ALLEY.
3:06:33PM I HAVE AN ALLEY AND I USE IT ON MY CORNER OF CENTRAL AND
3:06:37PM AMELIA AND MY OFFICE ON 7th AVENUE.
3:06:40PM BUT I KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S TECHNICAL STANDARDS ASSOCIATED
3:06:45PM WITH PARKING, YOU CANNOT PARALLEL PARKING WITHOUT A DESIGN
3:06:52PM EXCEPTION, 42 FEET INCLUDING THE ALLEY.
3:06:55PM SO MY CONCERN HERE, NOT NECESSARILY THE MANDATE, BUT THE
3:06:57PM UNINTENTIONAL CONSEQUENCES ON THE REAR YARD SITE PLAN DESIGN
3:07:02PM BY PUSHING BACK WITHOUT A FURTHER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT
3:07:08PM MAY DO IN THE URBAN FORM ON THOSE SECTIONS OF THE PROPERTY.
3:07:11PM SO I AM NOT AVERSE TO THE INTENT, JUST THAT I FEEL LIKE IT
3:07:18PM NEEDS A LESSON FROM THE TREE CODE IS THAT THE STUFF NEEDS TO
3:07:22PM BE BORN OUT IN PRACTICE.
3:07:24PM FINALLY, THIS MAY NOT BE NECESSARY, AND MS. FEELEY JUST
3:07:29PM SPOKE TO IT, BUT I THINK THERE WAS AN UNINTENTIONAL
3:07:33PM EXCLUSION IN THE WAY THE LANGUAGE WAS WRITTEN THAT NOTE BE
3:07:40PM PERMITTED IN MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT, WHICH I KNOW THAT'S NOT
3:07:43PM THE INTENT, BUT THAT IS A WAY THAT I THINK THIS LANGUAGE CAN
3:07:46PM BE --
3:07:49PM [BELL SOUNDS]
3:07:49PM SO I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO CHANGE IT, JUST TO GIVE SOME
3:07:54PM CONSIDERATION TO THE VERY, VERY FINE POINT OF SOME OF THESE
3:07:58PM PROVISIONS.
3:07:58PM THANK YOU.
3:07:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
3:08:02PM LET'S GO BACK TO THE THREE PEOPLE WE HAVE HAD ON THE LINE
3:08:05PM BEFORE.
3:08:05PM MR. SOTO, MS. POYNOR AND MRS. STROHMEYER.
3:08:11PM ARE ANY OF YOU THERE NOW?
3:08:12PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
3:08:14PM CAMILLO SOTO, 105 WEST FRANCIS, TAMPA HEIGHTS.
3:08:20PM RIGHT OFF THE BAT I WANT TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW I AM IN
3:08:23PM FULL SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED OVERLAY.
3:08:25PM I THINK WHAT'S PROPOSED HERE IS ACTUALLY LESS REGULATORY
3:08:30PM THAN THE HISTORICAL WAY IT EXISTS IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF
3:08:35PM THE TAMPA HEIGHTS DISTRICT.
3:08:36PM FOR THE LIFE OF ME I HAVEN'T YET TO GET A VERY CLEAR ANSWER
3:08:39PM AS TO WHY ONLY THAT SOUTHEAST DISTRICT GOT THE HISTORIC
3:08:42PM OVERLAY WHEN IT DID, WHEN THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD A
3:08:47PM VERY SIMILAR HOUSING STOCK, WHICH HAS BEEN WHITTLED AWAY AND
3:08:52PM TORN DOWN.
3:08:53PM BUT I DO WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE REST OF MY TIME TO
3:08:55PM KIND OF ADDRESS SOME OF THE COUNCIL FOLKS' COMMENTS, IN
3:08:58PM PARTICULAR TO COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:09:01PM MANDATING WHAT SOME OF THE ALLEYWAYS, THAT'S CAT IS OUT OF
3:09:06PM THE BAG.
3:09:07PM WHAT I WANT TO -- I SPOKE TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT MANDATING THE
3:09:11PM ASPHALTING OF THESE ALLEYWAYS UNDER THE POLICY, AND IN MY
3:09:17PM VIEW, I THINK COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MENTIONED WEST TAMPA AND
3:09:20PM HOW THERE ARE POCKETS OF ASPHALTED ALLEYWAYS.
3:09:26PM ASPHALTED ALLEYWAYS CURRENTLY EXIST, NO SINGLE ENGINEERING
3:09:30PM REVIEW WAS REQUIRED, NO STORMWATER REVIEW WAS REQUIRED.
3:09:33PM I ALSO WANT TO REMIND COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE MANDATE THE NEW
3:09:38PM POOLS THAT GO INTO THESE ALLEYWAYS.
3:09:40PM SO THAT CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG.
3:09:42PM SO AS I MENTIONED BEFORE WHEN I SPOKE TO YOU ALL ON THE
3:09:44PM 16th, IT'S ABOUT RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT, AND
3:09:47PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HIT ON IT.
3:09:49PM WE WANT -- WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE USE OF THESE ALLEYWAYS.
3:09:54PM HOW CAN WE AS A CITY HAVE VISION ZERO AND THEN NOT ENCOURAGE
3:09:59PM THE USE OF THESE ALLEYWAYS?
3:10:04PM LET'S BE RESPONSIBLE AS FAR AS HOW WE DEVELOP AND WORK WITH
3:10:07PM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, RIGHT?
3:10:08PM WE ARE GOING TO MANDATE THE ASPHALT.
3:10:10PM WE ARE GOING TO MANDATE THAT THEY DIRECT THE POOLS, LET'S
3:10:14PM ENCOURAGE THE USE OF THESE ALLEYWAYS AND HAVE THE CITY COME
3:10:17PM IN, PUT IN A STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE
3:10:20PM MANDATES THEY HAVE BEEN ALREADY BEEN PUTTING IN, LET'S HAVE
3:10:24PM THE CITY DO WHAT IT SHOULD BE DOING TO ITS OWN RIGHT-OF-WAY
3:10:27PM AND SETTING IT UP SO IT'S USABLE, RIGHT?
3:10:30PM FINALLY, I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS A VERY GOOD
3:10:34PM THING THAT I THINK THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WILL STILL BE
3:10:36PM ABLE TO MAKE A PROFIT, WE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE
3:10:40PM CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR YEARS TO COME, AND I
3:10:44PM THINK EVERYONE WILL BE ABLE TO, I THINK, GET TO A POINT
3:10:47PM WHERE THIS CODE IS AMENABLE TO ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.
3:10:50PM SO WE SHOULD REALLY SUPPORT IT.
3:10:52PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COUNCIL TODAY SET IT UP FOR THE
3:10:56PM NEXT MEETING AND JUST CONTINUE WITH THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION
3:11:00PM AND ALL PARTIES INVOLVED CONTINUE WORKING WITH STAFF BECAUSE
3:11:02PM THIS REALLY FINALIZED AFTER SO MANY YEARS THAT HAVE BEEN
3:11:06PM TALKED ABOUT.
3:11:07PM THANK YOU.
3:11:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:11:10PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:11:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOR THE CALLER, I AM NOT SAYING NOT TO DO
3:11:14PM IT.
3:11:15PM WHAT I AM SAYING IS, SOME OF THOSE ALLEY WAYS ARE GOING TO
3:11:19PM HAVE TO CHALLENGES.
3:11:20PM AND YOU PUT THE WORD MANDATE, I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
3:11:25PM HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK?
3:11:27PM SOME OF THOSE ALLEYS HAVE TREES IN THE MIDDLE.
3:11:30PM SOME OF THE ALLEYWAYS HAVEN'T BEEN UTILIZED FOR DECADES
3:11:36PM HAVE, ISSUES.
3:11:37PM SO I AM JUST WONDERING WHAT DEVELOPMENT, HOW ARE WE GOING TO
3:11:40PM DO THAT, HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SHUSH THAT THE
3:11:45PM VEHICLE -- I AM JUST LOOKING AT THE WHAT-IFs.
3:11:48PM IF YOU CAN GET IT BACK THERE OR IF THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO
3:11:52PM BUILD IT, DO WHATEVER, I HAVE NO ISSUES BUT I AM SAYING
3:11:56PM MANDATING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO DO IT.
3:11:58PM AND YOU MAY RUN INTO SOME CHALLENGES, LEGAL CHALLENGES.
3:12:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:12:03PM THEN I WILL COME BACK TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:12:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE JUST TALKED SORT BEFORE THIS A LITTLE
3:12:08PM EARLIER WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF
3:12:12PM COMMERCIAL FOR MULTI-USE BUILDINGS AND WITH WE SAID, HEY,
3:12:16PM LET'S AIM HIGHER AND HAVE THEM COME BACK IF THEY CAN'T MAKE
3:12:19PM IT.
3:12:19PM AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE SAME EXACT EXAMPLE, WHERE WE SAY
3:12:25PM THAT THEY NEED TO DO IT, A FINANCED THEY CAN'T, THEY HAVE TO
3:12:28PM COME BACK AND PROVE IT.
3:12:29PM THAT WAY, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH OTHER
3:12:33PM THINGS.
3:12:34PM SO THIS WAY, TO ANYBODY WHO IS GOING INTO DEVELOP IS LOOKING
3:12:38PM AT THE IDEA OF WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS, TO USE THE
3:12:41PM ALLEYS.
3:12:42PM THE MINUTE THEY CAN'T MAKE IT WORK, THEY CAN COME TO COUNCIL
3:12:52PM AND ARGUE THEIR POINT.
3:12:53PM HOW ABOUT THAT?
3:12:54PM THERE'S ALWAYS AN OUT.
3:12:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT I SAID,
3:13:01PM WHAT I HAVE HEARD NOW FROM 2,000 MEMBERS.
3:13:06PM I AM NOT AGAINST PEOPLE PARKING IN THE BACK.
3:13:08PM BUT YOU MUST HAVE A STUDY DONE -- I AM JUST TALKING ABOUT
3:13:11PM WEST TAMPA RIGHT NOW.
3:13:14PM WHERE I LIVE THERE'S NO ALLEY.
3:13:16PM THE BLOCK BEHIND ME THERE'S AN ALLEY BUT MAYBE THREE BLOCKS
3:13:19PM AWAY THERE'S AN ALLEY BUT I DON'T KNOW IF 8-FOOT WIDE OR
3:13:22PM 10-FOOT WIDE OR 4-FOOT WIDE.
3:13:24PM I DON'T KNOW THAT.
3:13:25PM THERE'S ALSO CODE ABOUT BACKING UP.
3:13:28PM I REMEMBER WHEN WE DID PARTS OF THE CITY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A
3:13:31PM CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ROOM TO BACK IN AND OUT.
3:13:34PM I DON'T KNOW THE LEGAL TERM THAT YOU ALL USE.
3:13:36PM AND THAT'S WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
3:13:38PM YOU DO ONE THING BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CODE SAYS NOW.
3:13:42PM THAT'S ALL.
3:13:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL ADD MY TWO POINTS, MY TWO CENTS.
3:13:48PM DEVELOPERS WILL PASS ON THE PRODUCT COST TO THE BUYER.
3:13:54PM THAT'S WITHOUT A DOUBT.
3:13:55PM WE JUST TALKED ABOUT ACCESSORY DWELLINGS.
3:14:01PM WELL, A PERSON HAD TWO ACCESSORY DWELLINGS, LIVE ON AFFIXED
3:14:06PM INCOME THAT HELPED PAY FOR THEIR HOUSE.
3:14:09PM SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME IN, PUT AN ACCESSORY DWELLING,
3:14:14PM MANDATORY FOR THE GARAGE INTO THAT ACCESSORY DWELLING.
3:14:18PM THEY HAVE THE TREE SMACK DAB INTO THE MIDDLE OF THAT
3:14:20PM ALLEYWAY.
3:14:21PM THEY HAVE TO EITHER PAY FOR THAT TREE TO GET CUT DOWN, PAY
3:14:24PM FOR THE EXPENSES FOR VARIANCE, PAY FOR THE -- THAT'S NOT A
3:14:28PM DEVELOPER PASSING ON THE COST.
3:14:31PM THAT IS SOMEBODY WHO IS A HOMEOWNER THAT WANTS TO BETTER
3:14:35PM THEIR PROPERTY, BETTER THEMSELVES.
3:14:37PM TO PUT A BLANKET STATEMENT ON THIS HURTS THAT PERSON.
3:14:45PM THERE'S MY TWO CENTS.
3:14:47PM OKAY.
3:14:51PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
3:14:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAKING A MOTION TO PASS THIS, MOVE FORWARD
3:15:00PM WITH THE RESOLUTION.
3:15:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHO IS GOING SECOND IT?
3:15:10PM >> I'LL SECOND IT.
3:15:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
3:15:15PM HURTAK, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:15:18PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:15:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:15:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL VOTE YES.
3:15:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
3:15:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW, WHAT ABOUT USE OF THE ALLEY,
3:15:36PM RECOMMEND BUT NOT MANDATING?
3:15:39PM YOUR MOTION IS TO PASS IT AS IS?
3:15:43PM I DON'T KNOW.
3:15:44PM I MEAN, I WOULD SUPPORT IT WITH THAT AMENDMENT.
3:15:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, THEY CAN COME BACK AND ASK FOR IT.
3:15:53PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THERE NEEDS TO BE PROBABLY, IN ALMOST
3:15:58PM ANY OVERLAY ZONING CATEGORY, SOME AUTHORITY TO ASK FOR A
3:16:03PM VARIANCE, BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS.
3:16:05PM AND IF THAT'S NOT THERE, THAT DOES NEED TO BE ADDED.
3:16:08PM >>LACHONE DOCK: ABSOLUTELY.
3:16:10PM JUST TO REMIND COUNCIL WE ARE AT THE STAGE OF WORKSHOP AT
3:16:13PM THIS POINT SO WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANT TO MAKE THOSE
3:16:16PM CONSIDERATIONS FOR THAT AMENDMENT, AND EITHER COUNCIL ASK
3:16:21PM THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK FOR ANOTHER WORKSHOP OR --
3:16:25PM >> TO HAVE ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE.
3:16:27PM >>LACHONE DOCK: ABSOLUTELY.
3:16:28PM I AM GOING TO REVIEW THAT TIMELINE WITH YOU BUT IF IT IS
3:16:31PM COUNCIL'S -- YOU CAN ASK TO MODIFY, FOR WHEN IT COMES BACK
3:16:38PM TO YOU, THAT CHANGE IS INCORPORATED IN THE LANGUAGE.
3:16:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
3:16:42PM SO I WILL SAY YES WITH THE ABILITY TO ASK FOR THAT
3:16:46PM MODIFICATION IN THE FUTURE.
3:16:47PM SO THIS IS NOT FINALIZED TODAY.
3:16:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM NOT ADDING THAT AS AN AMENDMENT.
3:16:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM SUPPORTING TO THE FURTHER DISCUSS
3:16:57PM IT IN THE FUTURE.
3:16:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD VOTE YES FOR THE SAME REASON AS
3:17:01PM MR. MANISCALCO, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE
3:17:04PM FACILITIES FOR THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN.
3:17:05PM THAT'S ALL.
3:17:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCILMAN
3:17:10PM MANISCALCO AND MR. MIRANDA.
3:17:11PM I WILL VOTE FOR THIS, BUT I WANT TO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO
3:17:15PM THIS.
3:17:16PM YES.
3:17:16PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH COUNCILMAN
3:17:19PM MEMBER CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
3:17:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:17:22PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THIS IS THE SAME SITUATION WHICH WE ARE
3:17:34PM DEBATING RIGHT NOW WHICH WE HAVE IN WEST TAMPA, AND WE
3:17:37PM MANDATED THE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND APPEAL IT.
3:17:41PM WE HAVE A PLAN THAT'S BEFORE YOU BECAUSE STAFF DOESN'T HAVE
3:17:44PM THE ABILITY TO APPROVE IT AND THEN WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THEY
3:17:47PM APPEAL IT AND THEN COUNCIL APPROVES IT ANYWAY.
3:17:50PM SO WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ADDING REGULATORY TIMELINES TO
3:17:55PM BE THINGS THAT YOU ARE ALREADY APPROVE, WE ARE TRYING TO
3:17:59PM UNWIND SOME OF THAT.
3:18:02PM SO WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN WEST TAMPA, HOW
3:18:05PM IT'S WORKING NOW, AND WE WORKSHOP THIS A LITTLE MORE, WE
3:18:07PM WILL BE ABLE TO BRING TO YOU EXAMPLES OF WHERE THAT HAS
3:18:13PM OCCURRED IN WEST TAMPA, BUT IT'S NOT LOCKED ON WHAT
3:18:18PM COUNCILMAN HURTAK SAYS.
3:18:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:18:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY, THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE
3:18:29PM COMING TO ME AND SAYING THEY REALLY WANT THESE ALLEYS, THEY
3:18:32PM WANT PEOPLE TO USE THEM.
3:18:34PM AND PART OF ME FEELS LIKE THE DEVELOPER NEEDS TO HAVE -- I
3:18:41PM MEAN, IF THEY WANT THE GARAGES BACK THERE, THEY NEED TO MAKE
3:18:44PM SPACE FOR IT.
3:18:46PM AND WE ARE GOING INTO A LOT OF THESE COMMUNITIES NOW THAT
3:18:50PM HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED IN YEARS, AND THEY ARE SCARED OF
3:18:54PM DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO MAKE IT
3:18:57PM WORK.
3:18:57PM AND I THINK THIS GOES ALONG WITH THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT
3:19:00PM AGREEMENT TO SOME DEGREE BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE
3:19:04PM COMMUNITY WANTS AS WELL AS DEVELOPERS WANT.
3:19:06PM AND THESE ARE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
3:19:12PM CARS ARE NOT AS SMALL AS THEY USED TO BE BUT THERE HAS TO BE
3:19:15PM A WAY.
3:19:16PM YOU LOOK AT SOUTH TAMPA.
3:19:17PM THOSE ALLEYS ARE TEENY-TINY, AND NO ONE IS MAKING THAT
3:19:21PM COMPLAINT OVER THERE.
3:19:22PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ANOTHER WAY FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS, TOO,
3:19:26PM WHATEVER THE APPEAL PROCESS IS, MAYBE THERE ARE CERTAIN
3:19:29PM CRITERIA IF IT MEETS THE SOUND CRITERIA, INSTEAD OF HAVING
3:19:34PM TO PUT IN THE QUEUE AND COME BEFORE COUNCIL, BECAUSE HEARING
3:19:37PM YOU DISCUSS THIS, WE UNDERSTAND THE INTENT AND WANTING TO
3:19:40PM USE THE ALLEYS WHERE APPROPRIATE, WHERE FEASIBLE, WHEN
3:19:43PM POSSIBLE.
3:19:45PM IF WE CAN DO THAT, THEN IT'S APPROVED.
3:19:49PM IF IT DOESN'T MEET THAT CRITERIA, THEN MAYBE IT COMES BACK
3:19:52PM TO YOU AT THAT POINT.
3:19:54PM SO JUST UNDERSTANDING THE INTENT AND TRYING TO UNWIND THE
3:19:57PM CODE AND ALLOWING FOR FLEXIBILITY, STAFF APPROVAL, AND THEN
3:20:01PM TAKING IT A STEP FURTHER TO COME BACK.
3:20:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I'M GOING BACK TO THE ALLEYS AND THE
3:20:13PM OTHER THINGS.
3:20:14PM I REMEMBER A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING, NOT ONLY DID YOU
3:20:19PM HAVE A HOUSE, BUT HAD A DRIVEWAY GOING IN, BUT YOU HAD A
3:20:23PM CURB THAT WAS MADE OUT OF WHAT?
3:20:25PM GRANITE THAT WAS ABOUT 8 INCHES HIGH, FOUR OR FIVE INCHES
3:20:28PM WIDE, SO WHAT YOU SOLVED THE FLOODING PROBLEM, THE WATER
3:20:32PM WOULD RUN SOMEWHERE.
3:20:33PM WE HAVE NOTHING LIKE THAT ANYMORE.
3:20:35PM SO, I MEAN, WE ARE DOING THINGS, BUT AGAIN I AM NOT AGAINST
3:20:41PM PEOPLE PARKING IN THE BACK, BUT I HAVE GOT TO HAVE SOME
3:20:44PM INFORMATION.
3:20:44PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I THINK ONE OF THE LAST THINGS TO
3:20:48PM REMEMBER, THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT, AND STAFF
3:20:53PM CAN ASK THE APPLICANT TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE, SO HEARING
3:20:56PM YOU DO THAT, IT'S NOT PUBLICLY INITIATED, SO YOU CAN MAKE
3:21:00PM THAT REQUEST UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE WHEN
3:21:05PM IT COMES BACK TO YOU.
3:21:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
3:21:07PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
3:21:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:21:11PM WE HAVE ONE MORE ON THIS?
3:21:12PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
3:21:19PM THIS IS THE LAST PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT WE HAVE FOR
3:21:22PM TODAY.
3:21:23PM THE APPLICANT ANGELA RAUBER, THIS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE
3:21:28PM CBD, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, BY CODE REQUIREMENT.
3:21:33PM SO THIS WAS CONSIDERED TO WHAT'S ALLOWED AS FAR AS BUILDING,
3:21:39PM PLACEMENT, ORIENTATION OF SIGNAGE.
3:21:42PM AND THIS IS CONTAINED WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT
3:21:45PM ONLY.
3:21:46PM AND STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST.
3:21:48PM AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS ONLINE.
3:21:50PM SHE WAS GOING TO PARTICIPATE ENVIRONMENTALLY.
3:21:52PM >> ANGELA RAUBER: YES, I'M HERE.
3:22:01PM ARE YOU HEARING ME?
3:22:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
3:22:03PM >> OKAY.
3:22:05PM I ALSO HAVE A VERY, VERY SHORT PRESENTATION, IF I CAN SHARE
3:22:10PM MY SCREEN.
3:22:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU ENLARGE THAT, PLEASE?
3:22:36PM >> CAN YOU SEE IT?
3:22:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:22:45PM >> IF YOU CAN SEE IT THEN THAT'S WHAT MATTERS.
3:23:02PM THE TEXT AMENDMENT, WITH THE CURRENT CENTRAL BUSINESS
3:23:05PM DISTRICT SIGN REGULATIONS, WHEN THE CODE WAS UPDATE ADD FEW
3:23:09PM YEARS AGO TO FORM-BASED CODE, DESIGN CODE WAS LARGELY
3:23:16PM IMPACTED.
3:23:17PM THERE WERE SOME CHANGES MADE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDINGS
3:23:19PM WERE ORIENTED ON THE FIRST LEVEL OF THE BUILDING AND ON THE
3:23:23PM TOP LEVEL OF THE BUILDING.
3:23:28PM AND ALL OF THE OTHER REGULATIONS CONCERNING THE TEXT OF THE
3:23:32PM SIGN, THE SIZE OF THE SIGN AND SO FORTH, YOU HAD TO GO BACK
3:23:35PM TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CODE THAT ARE DESIGNED FOR MOST OF OUR
3:23:43PM FORMS.
3:23:43PM THE CHANGES WE ARE MAKING ARE TO MATCH COMMERCIAL FORM.
3:23:49PM SO THE FIRST PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW BUILDINGS TO BE
3:23:57PM ORIENTED TOWARDS ANY BUILDING OR SIGNAGE TO BE ORIENTED
3:24:02PM TOWARDS ANY BUILDING FRONTAGE, NOT ONLY THE PORTION THAT IS
3:24:06PM ORIENTED TOWARDS THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE, WHICH ALLOWS THEM IN
3:24:10PM A DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT WHERE BUSINESSES ARE LOCATED ON UPPER
3:24:14PM STORIES, WE WANTED TO CLEAR -- ON THE FRONT DOOR FOR THE
3:24:21PM ENTIRE BUILDING, THAT THAT MAY BE NOT RELATED TO WHERE THE
3:24:26PM ACTUAL BUSINESS IS.
3:24:27PM AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE ALL FOUR SIDES OF
3:24:31PM THE BUILDING.
3:24:32PM NOW, ONE THING I WOULD SAY ABOUT ALL OF THESE CHANGES IS
3:24:37PM THAT RIGHT NOW WE CAN GET SOME OF THESE PROVISIONS THROUGH
3:24:44PM DESIGN EXCEPTION.
3:24:45PM WE ARE HOPING TO BE ABLE THAT THESE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS,
3:24:52PM STREAMLINE KIND OF WHAT STAFF IS DOING, AND MAKE SURE THAT
3:24:56PM THIS DEVELOPER HAS -- BEFORE THEY GO THROUGH A PROCESS.
3:25:02PM THE SECOND PROPOSED AMENDMENT CURRENTLY AGAIN PROJECTING
3:25:10PM SIGNS ARE ALLOWED, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE OVER THOSE
3:25:14PM PROVISIONS THAT RELATE AND MAKE TWO CHANGES TO PROJECTING
3:25:24PM SIGNS.
3:25:24PM THE FIRST IS THAT THERE'S A PROVISION THAT PROJECTING SIGNS
3:25:28PM ARE TO BE LOCATED AT THE --
3:25:33PM WE WOULD LIKE AN EXCEPTION WHERE THE TWO SIGNS ARE ACTUALLY
3:25:36PM LOCATED ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE BUILDING, AND THAT WOULD
3:25:40PM ALLOW, AS YOU CAN SEE, FOR CORRESPONDENCE SIGNAGE TO BE LESS
3:25:51PM THAN TEN FOOT APART.
3:25:53PM WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REDUCE THE APPEARANCE FROM TEN FEET TO
3:25:57PM NINE FEET ABOVE THE SIDEWALK.
3:26:04PM THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT NUMBER 3, CURRENTLY THE WAY THE SIGNS
3:26:13PM ARE WRITTEN, SIGNS THAT ALLOW RETAIL FRONT, TO HAVE A
3:26:18PM VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SOON POINTS, WE WANT TO CHANGE TO GIVE
3:26:25PM MORE FLEXIBILITY TO RETAIL BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO HAVE
3:26:28PM SIGNAGE, A VARIETY OF SIGNAGE, MAYBE THEY HAVE A COMBINATION
3:26:32PM OF BUILDING SIGNS ON A WALL, A PROJECTED SIGN, AND ALSO TO
3:26:39PM BE ABLE TO DO SIGNAGE TO ACCOMMODATE BUILDING LOSS OHS,
3:26:44PM BUSINESS LOGOS, OR SOME TYPE OF UNIQUE DESIGN INTO THE
3:26:48PM SIGNAGE PAD.
3:26:52PM THIS ILLUSTRATION GIVES KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF THE EXISTING
3:26:57PM OF -- IT IS NOT VERY DYNAMIC.
3:27:04PM IT REQUIRES UNIFORMITY.
3:27:06PM IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY -- THEY CAN HAVE A MIX OF SIGNAGE
3:27:12PM TYPES.
3:27:13PM AND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING DOESN'T ACTUALLY ADD ADDITIONAL
3:27:17PM SIGNAGE TO THE BUILDING, BUT IT ALLOWS THE BUSINESSES SOME
3:27:28PM PRIDE.
3:27:29PM OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO PRESENT.
3:27:31PM IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WE CAN ANSWER THOSE.
3:27:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:27:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO BASICALLY WE ARE GOING BACK TO
3:27:39PM DOWNTOWN OF THE MID 20th CENTURY, BECAUSE WE HAD SIGNS
3:27:45PM LIKE THAT BEFORE WE TORE EVERYTHING DOWN AND BEFORE WE TOOK
3:27:48PM OFF ALL THE NEON AND ALL THAT.
3:27:50PM BUT IT WAS ALL PEDESTRIAN-BASED.
3:27:53PM THAT'S WHY IN SO MANY EXISTING HISTORIC BUILDINGS, YOU WILL
3:27:56PM SEE THE NAME OF THE SHOP AT THE FLOOR LEVEL, SO WHEN
3:28:01PM PEDESTRIANS WALK THEY CAN SEE IT.
3:28:04PM YOU CAN SEE THIS ON NORTH FRANKLIN STREET.
3:28:06PM AND WE ARE JUST GOING BACK TO THAT.
3:28:07PM THAT'S ALL I SEE, WHICH IS GOOD.
3:28:10PM SO I APPRECIATE IT.
3:28:11PM THANK YOU.
3:28:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
3:28:14PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:28:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, I AM JUST REMEMBERING THAT WE HAD A
3:28:18PM SIGN INSPECTION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA 20 YEARS AGO, 20 OR 30
3:28:23PM YEARS AGO, AND LIMITED SOME OF THE SIGNS.
3:28:25PM BUT NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE BAGEL SIGNS.
3:28:30PM TALKING ABOUT WALKABLE SIGNS, CORRECT?
3:28:33PM >> THAT'S CORRECT ALL OF THE SIGNS ARE FOR THE PEDESTRIAN TO
3:28:36PM SEE.
3:28:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: STREETS LIKE DALE MABRY, HALF OF THEM
3:28:40PM YOU CAN'T FIND WHERE YOU ARE GOING.
3:28:42PM AND IT'S DIFFICULT THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR A TOURIST OR
3:28:44PM SOMEBODY IN THE CITY TO COME IN, ONE OF THE MAIN ARTERIES,
3:28:48PM AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE AT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T READ
3:28:50PM THE SIGN.
3:28:51PM THANK YOU.
3:28:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTIONS?
3:28:56PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
3:29:00PM ALL RIGHT.
3:29:00PM YOU KNOW, I HAVE LIVED IN THIS CITY FOR 40 YEARS.
3:29:05PM SOMETIMES I STILL HAVE TO USE MAPS AND WAYS AND OTHER APS
3:29:11PM TOD GET AROUND.
3:29:13PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
3:29:16PM OH, PUBLIC COMMENT, YES.
3:29:17PM AND I AM GOING TO GO TO THE SAME THREE PEOPLE.
3:29:27PM SOTO, POYNOR, STROHMEYER.
3:29:33PM >>THE CLERK: MS. POYNOR, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE AND WANT TO
3:29:37PM PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
3:29:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
3:29:44PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
3:29:47PM I HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:29:49PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:29:51PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:29:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
3:30:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
3:30:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
3:30:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
3:30:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:30:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
3:30:06PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH COUNCILMAN
3:30:08PM MEMBER CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
3:30:11PM >>LACHONE DOCK: CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
3:30:15PM I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU, AND THE PUBLIC, KNOW THE PROCESS
3:30:21PM AND SCHEDULE, JUST SO THE PUBLIC HAS AN IDEA.
3:30:23PM THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE THE PLANNING COMMISSION BRIEFING WILL
3:30:27PM BE HELD IN JULY.
3:30:28PM AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING IN AUGUST.
3:30:30PM AND THEN WE WILL BE BACK BEFORE COUNCIL BEFORE YOU IN
3:30:33PM SEPTEMBER FOR FIRST READING.
3:30:38PM THAT'S THE PROCESSING SCHEDULE.
3:30:39PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
3:30:40PM JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL WHICH ABBYE
3:30:42PM MENTIONED EARLIER THIS MORNING.
3:30:44PM WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL PRIVATELY INITIATE TEXT AMENDMENTS
3:30:47PM WHICH ARE CURRENTLY IN PROCESS NOW.
3:30:50PM THAT WOULD COMPLETE THE REMAINDER OF THE PRIVATELY INITIATED
3:30:53PM TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CYCLE.
3:30:55PM AND THEN WE WILL MOVE TO ALL PUBLICLY INITIATED.
3:30:58PM AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
3:31:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW, OUR FINAL AGENDA ITEM.
3:31:07PM NUMBER 5.
3:31:08PM CM 21-69784.
3:31:11PM >>ROB ROSNER: ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
3:31:27PM PULL UP THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
3:31:29PM SO WE HAVE -- THANK YOU.
3:31:37PM WE INCLUDED A MEMO WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM, AND I AM GOING TO
3:31:41PM GO OVER THAT WITH YOU, AND THEN PROCESS THROUGH THE PUBLIC
3:31:44PM ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
3:31:47PM SO JUST TO SUMMARIZE WHAT MY MEMO SAYS THAT WE MADE THESE
3:31:50PM ENGAGEMENTS ON MAY 9th AND MAY 16th.
3:31:57PM WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 30 TO 40 ATTENDEES IN PERSON AND
3:32:00PM VIRTUAL.
3:32:01PM WE ALSO SENT OUT SOME E-MAILS TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY,
3:32:05PM AND WE ALSO HAD A SURVEY THAT WE DID THROUGH THE PROCESS.
3:32:09PM AND WE ALLOWED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
3:32:12PM SO WE HELD THIS AT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING CENTER.
3:32:16PM THE PRESENTATION THAT WE MADE WAS ABOUT TEN MINUTES LONG
3:32:19PM EACH TIME.
3:32:19PM WE GAVE THEM A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW, AND THEN WE OPENED IT UP
3:32:24PM TO THE COMMUNITY TO ALLOW THEM TO TELL US WHAT THEY WOULD
3:32:27PM LIKE TO BE SEE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW THEY CAN SEE
3:32:29PM THIS BEING A BENEFIT TO THEM, AND WHAT DOES THAT MANY FOR
3:32:32PM THEM AS A COMMUNITY?
3:32:36PM SO WE DID A PUBLIC VIDEO HERE.
3:32:39PM IT'S ABOUT A ONE MINUTE SO THOSE FOLKS THAT WERE COMING TO
3:32:42PM THE MEETINGS, THEY COULD LEARN A LITTLE ABOUT IT AHEAD OF
3:32:45PM TIME.
3:32:45PM I AM NOT SURE IF THIS WILL GO THROUGH THE VIDEO, BUT WE'LL
3:32:48PM MOVE ON.
3:32:49PM OKAY.
3:32:50PM SO WE DID A QUESTION-AND-ANSWER STATEMENT FOR ABOUT AN HOUR
3:32:53PM AND A HALF EACH TIME, AND THEN I FIELDED A NUMBER OF CALLS
3:32:57PM AFTERWARDS THAT WAS ABLE TO FILL IN A NUMBER OF CONSTITUENTS
3:33:00PM THAT HAD ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
3:33:03PM AND THEN WE STOPPED BY EACH OF THE DIFFERENT CACs, THAT
3:33:07PM HAD ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND ADDRESSED THOSE.
3:33:09PM SO ON THOSE WE ALTERNATED BETWEEN IN-PERSON AND VIRTUAL, AND
3:33:14PM THEN WE DID A COMMUNITY-WIDE SURVEY THAT WE ALLOWED THROUGH
3:33:18PM THE 27th AND WE ASKED THE BASIC QUESTIONS.
3:33:21PM SO WE HAD 192 RESPONSES.
3:33:26PM AVERAGE RESPONSE WAS ABOUT A MINUTE LONG, COMPLETED ON THE
3:33:29PM 27th.
3:33:31PM SO THE FIRST ONE WAS, WERE YOU AWARE OF IT AND DO YOU KNOW
3:33:34PM WHAT IT IS?
3:33:36PM WE HAD A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF DID UNDERSTAND IT.
3:33:39PM THE OTHER HALF WASN'T SURE.
3:33:41PM SO THIS EDUCATION PROCESS WAS VERY USEFUL.
3:33:44PM SO THIS IS JUST A HEAT MAP WHEREOF WE SAW OUR RESPONSES
3:33:48PM FROM, WE HAD SURVEY COVERAGE.
3:33:51PM THE INTENT WAS JUST TO SEE IF THE COMMUNITY WAS INTERESTED
3:33:54PM IN THIS BEING EITHER A POLICY ACTION OR
3:33:58PM IF THIS SHOULD BE
3:33:59PM CREATED IN ORDINANCE.
3:34:00PM SO WE DIDN'T HIT EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY, BUT
3:34:03PM IT WAS OPEN TO EVERYBODY, AND JUST TO GET A SENSE IF THIS
3:34:07PM WAS A GOOD IDEA OR NOT.
3:34:09PM SO THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE RESULTS WERE THAT
3:34:13PM RECREATIONAL AND EXPERIENTIAL TYPE AMENITIES WERE THE ONES
3:34:18PM THAT WERE MOST FAVORED.
3:34:20PM OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WORKFORCE, NOT AS
3:34:25PM HIGH AS I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BUT IT WAS STILL SIGNIFICANT.
3:34:28PM THEN ON THE OTHER, THIS IS KIND OF A MASH-UP OF THINGS WE
3:34:33PM SAW THE COMMUNITY RESPOND TO.
3:34:34PM LIKE DOG PARKS, COMMUNITY POOLS, SIDEWALKS, STREETSCAPES
3:34:38PM THAT KIND OF THING, THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE OF WHAT THE FRONT
3:34:40PM DOOR LOOKS LIKE, AND IF THIS IS GOING TO BE AN URBAN EDGE.
3:34:44PM THEY WANTED TO FEEL AT HOME, NOT JUST A STERILE PLACE.
3:34:52PM AS I MENTIONED IN MY MEMO, WE SENT AN E-MAIL OUT TO THE
3:34:56PM DEVELOPERS, HAD ALL OF THEM WORK WITH US IN THE PAST, AND WE
3:34:59PM GOT A NUMBER THAT CAME BACK.
3:35:01PM FOR THE MOST PART
3:35:02PM WHAT WE HEARD
3:35:03PM WAS THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
3:35:05PM THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT IT TO SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS BUT THEY
3:35:09PM LIKE THE IDEA OF ENGAGING EARLY INSTEAD OF FIGURING OUT
3:35:14PM AFTER THE FACT WHAT WE WERE DOING, AND THEY WOULD RATHER
3:35:17PM ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE EARLY RATHER THAN BEING REACTIONARY.
3:35:21PM SO I THINK THE PowerPoint DISAPPEARED.
3:35:24PM IF WE CAN GO BACK FOR ONE SECOND.
3:35:27PM SO JUST AS THE REQUESTED ACTION THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU, WE
3:35:30PM WOULD LIKE -- IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING THE
3:35:34PM COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENTS, WE REQUEST THAT A MOTION IN
3:35:38PM FAVOR OF STAFF COMING BACK IN THE FUTURE, SIX TO EIGHT
3:35:40PM MONTHS, TO GIVE THE PROPER PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH THE
3:35:44PM INITIAL LANGUAGE AND THE TO HOLD A PUBLIC FORUM.
3:35:49PM OH, I'M SORRY.
3:35:57PM WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN TO WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.
3:36:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:36:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
3:36:07PM THE ENGAGEMENT, I GOT SOME CALLS ABOUT CONCERNS, AND TOLD
3:36:11PM YOU ABOUT THOSE CONCERNS, THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THOSE AND
3:36:14PM CONTINUE WORKING WITH THOSE.
3:36:16PM AND I AM LOOKING AT YOUR DATE OF FEBRUARY 16, 2023.
3:36:20PM I THINK THIS HAS BEEN ON THE TABLE FOR A WHILE NOW.
3:36:23PM SO TO SPEAK ME, WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON, BUT THAT'S
3:36:27PM A FAR-OUT STRETCH FOR AN ORDINANCE WHEN IT'S BEEN BACK SINCE
3:36:32PM '21.
3:36:33PM I MEAN, THAT'S A STRETCH TO SAY FEBRUARY.
3:36:37PM >>ROB ROSNER: THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, WE WANTED TO
3:36:46PM MAKE SURE THERE WAS PLENTY OF TIME TO HIT THE 74 DIFFERENT
3:36:49PM NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THERE ARE, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE
3:36:51PM THERE IS PLENTY OF TIME TO GET THE PROPER PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
3:36:54PM AND WE KNOW THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THERE'S HOLIDAY AND OTHER
3:36:57PM THINGS, WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE ON THAT EFFECT.
3:37:02PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WE ARE SAYING WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO
3:37:04PM GET ALL 74 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS?
3:37:08PM >> IDEALLY WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS EIGHT OR TEN OF THEM AT A
3:37:12PM TIME, WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE WE
3:37:15PM ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC PROPERLY, TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS
3:37:17PM HEARD BEFORE WE GET --
3:37:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM JUST SAYING IT, ROB, YOU THREW IT OUT
3:37:22PM THERE.
3:37:23PM SO THAT'S WHAT I AM EXPECTING.
3:37:26PM 74.
3:37:27PM I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALISTIC.
3:37:29PM >>ROB ROSNER: WE'LL TRY.
3:37:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK IT WOULD BE REALISTIC, YOU HAVE
3:37:34PM FOUR QUADRANTS OF THIS CITY, AND BEING ABLE TO -- IT HAS A
3:37:41PM CRA IN IT, THAT'S A LITTLE --
3:37:46PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, WE ALREADY INSTITUTED
3:37:49PM IN CRA POLICY, THAT REQUIRES THE COMMUNITY.
3:37:56PM IF THE CITY IS PROVIDING A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OR MORE,
3:37:59PM VALUE OF LAND OR MONEY, SO WE ARE ALREADY DOING THAT, AND WE
3:38:06PM ARE ALREADY INTRODUCED TO OUR FIRST COMMUNITY AGREEMENT
3:38:09PM RELATIVE TO THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
3:38:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE FIRST ONE WE HAD THE CRA INSTITUTE,
3:38:16PM BUT NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A CITY-WIDE PLAN.
3:38:19PM BUT I AM JUST SAYING, I AM EXPECTING THAT, SO THAT TIME
3:38:25PM FRAME TO ME, IT'S KIND OF FAR.
3:38:29PM >> DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR.
3:38:30PM IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO DRAFT SOMETHING AND BRING IT BACK TO
3:38:33PM YOU, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
3:38:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM JUST LOOKING AT '23.
3:38:38PM THAT'S A LONG TIME.
3:38:39PM I THINK WE CAN MOVE ALONG AND GET THESE NEIGHBORHOOD
3:38:42PM ASSOCIATIONS AND PULL THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT
3:38:47PM IT'S ABOUT.
3:38:48PM IT'S ABOUT COMING INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAKING SURE THE
3:38:51PM NEIGHBORHOOD IS ON BOARD AND MAKE SURE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS
3:38:54PM GOING TO HEAR.
3:38:55PM THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
3:38:56PM IT SHOULDN'T TAKE US THAT LONG TO DRAFT SOMETHING.
3:38:59PM WE HAVE GOT ALREADY SOME TYPE OF ORDINANCE -- IT'S NOT AN
3:39:04PM ORDINANCE.
3:39:05PM WHAT IS IT, MR. MASSEY?
3:39:08PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: A POLICY.
3:39:09PM ST. PETERSBURG HAS ALSO ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE WHICH I THINK
3:39:12PM YOU ASKED US TO LOOK AT.
3:39:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS WILL BE THE -- MOST OF THE CRAS ARE
3:39:21PM POLICIES.
3:39:21PM SO I AM ASKING AT THAT TIME TO CUT DOWN.
3:39:23PM IT'S A LONG TIME, I BELIEVE.
3:39:25PM >> CERTAINLY.
3:39:34PM WE'LL DRAFT SOMETHING OUT AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
3:39:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: JUST SAYING, GIVE ME A LITTLE BETTER TIME
3:39:42PM FRAME.
3:39:43PM >> HOW ABOUT COME BACK IN OCTOBER?
3:39:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET'S DO OCTOBER.
3:39:48PM DO YOU WANT A MOTION ON THAT NOW?
3:39:50PM >> YES, WE DO.
3:39:52PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK YOU WANT TO TAKE SOME PUBLIC
3:39:54PM COMMENT AND THEN MAYBE SOME OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SOME
3:39:57PM QUESTIONS.
3:39:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT
3:40:00PM WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR ASK QUESTIONS?
3:40:06PM IF NOT, I DO REMEMBER HEARING MS. SANCHEZ ON THE LINE.
3:40:11PM WE ALSO HAVE MR -- MISS STROHMEYER AND MISS POYNOR THAT
3:40:17PM WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM.
3:40:20PM MS. SANCHEZ, ARE YOU THERE?
3:40:21PM >> YES, I AM.
3:40:24PM GOOD AFTERNOON, GENTLEMEN.
3:40:25PM MY NAME IS SANDY SANCHEZ, I LIVE AT 2705 WEST FIG STREET,
3:40:31PM ARMORY GARDENS COMMUNITY, THE HOME OF THE VILA BROTHERS
3:40:35PM PARK.
3:40:35PM I'M EXHAUSTED FROM THIS DAY SO I CAN IMAGINE HOW EXHAUSTED
3:40:38PM YOU ARE.
3:40:39PM [ LAUGHTER ]
3:40:40PM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I WANTED TO SPEAK ON BUT DIDN'T
3:40:43PM REALIZE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON THEM IN BETWEEN
3:40:46PM THOSE ISSUES.
3:40:47PM AND I AM HERE TO GIVE MY SUPPORT TO NUMBER 5 IN THE AGENDA
3:40:50PM WHICH IS THE STAFF REPORT EXPRESSING THE POSSIBILITY,
3:40:54PM IMPLEMENTING THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
3:40:57PM IT IS INTERESTING TO ME THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS ALREADY
3:41:01PM ATTEMPTED TO MAKE TWO PRESENTATIONS TO NEW NEIGHBORHOOD.
3:41:05PM THESE PRESENTATIONS, AND I KNOW YOU ALL HEARD THIS, WERE
3:41:08PM INVOLVED WITH TECHNICAL ISSUES AND ORGANIZATION, BUT DID
3:41:11PM GIVE US A GLIMPSE OF WHAT COULD BE AN AVENUE FOR
3:41:15PM NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO UTILIZE, TO OPENLY
3:41:19PM COMMUNICATE NEIGHBORHOOD, DEVELOPERS AND CONTRACTORS.
3:41:23PM I ASK THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT BE REVISITED WITH
3:41:27PM RESPONSIBLE ORGANIZATION AND TECHNICAL EXPERTISE.
3:41:33PM USE OF COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENTS ALONG WITH EXPANSION OF
3:41:36PM AREA FOR THE RADIUS FOR THE GOOD NEIGHBORS FENCES COULD BE
3:41:42PM THE BEGINNING OF LEVELING THE FIELD TOWARD AGGRESSIVE
3:41:46PM INTRUSIVE DEVELOPERS BACKED BY THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT,
3:41:49PM AND A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT SUPPORTS CONCRETE -- THAT
3:41:54PM INTRUDE INTO THE QUALITY OF OUR LIFE.
3:41:56PM COMMUNITIES HAVE AGAINST THOSE THAT CHANGE THAT IS
3:42:05PM CONSISTENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND BYPASSING THE NEEDS
3:42:07PM OF THE COMMUNITY.
3:42:11PM BUT SUPPORT AN EYE IN THE SKY GOAL THUS MAKING TAMPA THE
3:42:15PM NEXT GREAT CITY.
3:42:16PM NEIGHBORHOOD ARE INFECTED WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLANS THAT WERE
3:42:19PM MARKED CONSISTENT, THAT PLAGUE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, DESIGNS
3:42:24PM THAT ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
3:42:26PM THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT PROGRAM EXPANSION OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR
3:42:32PM LETTERS AND THE IMPLEMENTATION, AND I AM PUTTING THIS IN
3:42:34PM YOUR EAR, OF THE COMMUNITY ADVOCATE PAID FOR THE CITY WOULD
3:42:38PM ALSO GIVE THE COMMUNITIES A FINAL CHANCE TO RUBBER STAMP
3:42:42PM PROJECTS TO AVOID CONFRONTATION WITH DEVELOPERS.
3:42:46PM IT USED TO BE THAT COUNCIL WHAT WAS MADE UP OF ELECTED
3:42:49PM OFFICIALS TO SUPPORT COMMUNITY.
3:42:52PM ALL OF YOU MADE THAT PROMISE.
3:42:54PM NOW A LOBBYIST, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE STILL LISTENING
3:42:58PM AND THOSE OF YOU THAT WANT A DISCUSSION TO BE OVER WITH
3:43:00PM QUICKLY SO YOU CAN RUBBER STAMP ANOTHER SET OF PLANS.
3:43:03PM I ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT AS A
3:43:07PM BEGINNING FOR DIALOGUE BETWEEN DEVELOPERS, COMMUNITIES, AND
3:43:10PM THE CITY.
3:43:10PM THANK YOU.
3:43:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. SANCHEZ.
3:43:14PM IS MS. STROHMEYER ON THE LINE?
3:43:16PM >>THE CLERK: MS. STROHMEYER, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE PLEASE
3:43:25PM UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
3:43:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM NOT HEARING MS. STROHMEYER.
3:43:38PM MS. POYNOR, ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
3:43:40PM >> YES, I AM.
3:43:41PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
3:43:44PM COMMUNITY BASED AGREEMENTS, I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO BE AT THE
3:43:48PM MEETINGS, MAYBE.
3:43:54PM I HAVE NEVER -- HEARD SO MANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT A MEETING AS
3:43:59PM I RECEIVED ABOUT THE FIRST COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT
3:44:01PM MEETING.
3:44:03PM I BET YOU YOU HAD SIX E-MAILS ABOUT IT.
3:44:08PM I BELIEVE THE COMMUNITY BASED AGREEMENT IS -- I THINK IT
3:44:12PM SHOULDN'T JUST BE FOR LAND THAT IS CONTROLLED BY THE CITY.
3:44:15PM I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A DIRECT SORT OF METHOD JUST LIKE
3:44:20PM THE ONE CAROL ANNE AND I BROUGHT WITH SOUTHEASTERN IN THE
3:44:24PM LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS WHERE WE CREATED A COMMUNITY BASED
3:44:28PM AGREEMENT WITH THEM IN ORDER TO GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
3:44:32PM I THINK OUR CITIZENS ARE BECOMING MORE SAVVY, AS WAS SHOWN
3:44:37PM BY THE TAMPA HEIGHTS PRESENTATION OF PITA, WHICH I SUPPORT.
3:44:43PM I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON THAT.
3:44:45PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT
3:44:50PM COMMUNITY BASED MEANS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE INVOLVED.
3:44:52PM AND IF WE ARE NOT, THEN WE ARE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE.
3:44:57PM BOTTOM LINE IS, EVEN CARROLL ANN AND I HAVE BOTH LEARNED BY
3:45:01PM GOING TO DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD, WE TALK TO DIFFERENT
3:45:04PM NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT, OH, WE HAVE PLENTY, AND WE ARE, WOW,
3:45:09PM THAT'S THE FIRST TIME WE EVER HEARD THAT, BECAUSE ONLY THE
3:45:12PM NEIGHBORHOODS KNOW ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
3:45:15PM AND NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES WE DRIVE THROUGH THERE, YOU
3:45:18PM DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT RED LIGHT IS GOING TO IMPACT UNTIL YOU
3:45:24PM LIVE THERE.
3:45:24PM SO I THINK INCLUDING THIS, AND JUST LIKE SANDY SAID, I HAVE
3:45:28PM TO -- ON EVERYTHING SHE SAID, A NEIGHBOR NOTICE WHICH WE
3:45:34PM HAVE BEEN TALKING TO YOU GUYS ABOUT, EVERYBODY -- COUNCILMAN
3:45:38PM MIRANDA SPOKE WITH US ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOTICE.
3:45:43PM WE HAVE TO GET WITH YOU, CHARLIE.
3:45:45PM PLEASE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT,
3:45:49PM THE NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD LOVE TO HELP WITH THIS LEGISLATION.
3:45:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:45:58PM WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY ELSE.
3:45:59PM MR. MASSEY.
3:45:59PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: ONE THING I DO WANT TO MAKE CLEAR TO
3:46:02PM COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AS WELL, THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT
3:46:04PM AGREEMENT PROCESS CANNOT BE ASSOCIATED WITH ANY ENTITLEMENT
3:46:08PM APPROVAL PROCESS.
3:46:12PM IT CAN'T BE CONTINGENT UPON IT, SPECIAL USE APPROVAL CANNOT
3:46:14PM BE CONTINGENT UPON IT.
3:46:16PM THIS IS ONLY DONE IN SITUATIONS WHERE REALLY THE DEVELOPER
3:46:19PM HAS TO WORK WITH THE CITY IN SOME REGARDS.
3:46:22PM THAT'S REALLY HOW IT HAPPENS.
3:46:25PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT.
3:46:27PM LIMITED PARAMETER ON WHAT WE CAN DO WITH COMMUNITY BENEFIT
3:46:32PM AGREEMENTS.
3:46:32PM >> MOVE THE TRANSMITTAL.
3:46:37PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK THEY HAD SOME FURTHER WORK TO DO
3:46:42PM TO BRING IT BACK.
3:46:43PM I THINK THEY ARE LOOKING BACK FOR A DATE IN OCTOBER TO BRING
3:46:46PM BACK A DRAFT ORDINANCE.
3:46:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND AFTER HEARING MS. POYNOR'S COMMENTS,
3:46:52PM MR. GUDES, IS OCTOBER STILL GOOD WITH YOU OR WOULD YOU LIKE
3:46:54PM MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT?
3:46:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THEY CAN DO IT ALL IN THIS PERIOD
3:46:58PM OF TIME.
3:46:58PM I THINK OCTOBER 6th IS GOOD FOR YOU?
3:47:03PM >> I THINK PART OF THE EFFORT WAS TO DO THE COMMUNITY
3:47:09PM ENGAGEMENT INITIALLY.
3:47:11PM SO I WILL DO THAT UP FRONT, THEN COME BACK WITH THE DRAFT
3:47:14PM LANGUAGE.
3:47:14PM BUT IN REVERSING THAT, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO ALLOW US TO
3:47:18PM DRAFT THE LANGUAGE, AND THEN DO THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
3:47:21PM AND SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE ON THAT, ON
3:47:25PM THIS TIMELINE, BECAUSE WE REALIZE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
3:47:28PM WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
3:47:29PM SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR EITHER THE EXTENDED TIME FRAME OR TO
3:47:32PM BE ABLE TO BRING YOU THE LANGUAGE FIRST AND THEN COME
3:47:34PM BACK --
3:47:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY ONLY CONCERN, IF I GIVE YOU A LADDER,
3:47:39PM AND WE ARE SAYING OCTOBER, THEN YOU ARE GOING TO BACK TO THE
3:47:42PM COMMUNITY, THAT'S GOING TO DRAG IT OUT AGAIN.
3:47:46PM CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
3:47:48PM GIVE IT TO ME STRAIGHT.
3:47:50PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I AM GOING TO COME UP HERE AND DEFEND MY
3:48:00PM STAFF FOR A MINUTE, PLEASE, BECAUSE THEY GOING TO KEEP
3:48:02PM NODDING AND TRYING TO DO IT.
3:48:03PM SO ALLOW ME FOR A MINUTE.
3:48:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU'RE THE BOSS.
3:48:07PM >> THE AMOUNT OF WORK WE ARE DOING WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
3:48:11PM ON ALL OF OUR HOUSING ISSUES, ALL OF THE THINGS WE ARE
3:48:14PM STANDING UP, WE ARE A LIMITED TEAM, AND THERE IS -- WE
3:48:19PM CANNOT DO ALL THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT YOU WANT TO DO ON
3:48:22PM EVERY ISSUE AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU BY OCTOBER.
3:48:25PM SO WHAT I DO BELIEVE IS THAT FROM THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
3:48:30PM AGREEMENT PERSPECTIVE THAT WE GENERALLY HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT
3:48:33PM THE COMMUNITY NEEDS, LIKE WE HAVE A FRAMEWORK OF WHAT WE
3:48:36PM NEED. IF WE BRING THAT ORDINANCE, DRAFT ORDINANCE BACK TO
3:48:39PM YOU, YOU WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT RELATED TO THAT.
3:48:44PM IN ORDER FOR US TO TOUCH EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT
3:48:47PM MAY NOT APPLY, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND
3:48:54PM THAT THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT CANNOT BE ASSOCIATED
3:48:57PM WITH ANY ENTITLEMENT DECISIONS THAT'S BROUGHT BEFORE THIS
3:49:01PM BODY.
3:49:01PM SO IF WE WANTED TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU IN OCTOBER, I
3:49:03PM BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO THAT.
3:49:05PM BUT WE CANNOT DO THE KIND OF OUTREACH THAT YOU ARE EXPECTING
3:49:09PM AND ASKING FOR BY OCTOBER.
3:49:12PM IT WILL BE A PUBLIC MEETING.
3:49:13PM WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE WORD IS OUT THAT THE DRAFT
3:49:15PM ORDINANCE IS GOING TO BE BEFORE YOU.
3:49:17PM BUT I AM GOING TO STAND UP HERE, AND EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE
3:49:21PM GOING TO AGREE TODAY, AT SOME POINT, PLEASE ALLOW US TO DO
3:49:26PM THE WORK.
3:49:26PM WE CANNOT DO ALL THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT BY OCTOBER.
3:49:29PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I BELIEVE THAT YOU BRING THE DRAFT
3:49:32PM ORDINANCE BACK, AND THEN IF YOU BRING THE DRAFT ORDINANCE
3:49:35PM BACK, THE COMMUNITY CAN HEAR IT, AND FROM THAT POINT, CAN
3:49:38PM MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS.
3:49:39PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON YOUR WORKSHOP AGENDA
3:49:45PM BUT MAYBE THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE TIME AND THEN MAYBE BROUGHT
3:49:47PM BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND ANOTHER WORKSHOP SETTING SO THEY CAN
3:49:53PM ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE TWEAKS AT THAT TIME.
3:49:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OCTOBER 20th IS THE WORKSHOP.
3:50:06PM 27th IS THE WORKSHOP.
3:50:07PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: AND THEN WHAT'S ON THE --
3:50:13PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
3:50:14PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THERE ARE NO ORDINANCES SO --
3:50:26PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE HAVE A WORKSHOP AGAIN
3:50:29PM UNTIL JANUARY.
3:50:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN WE PUT THIS ON A REGULAR SESSION?
3:50:34PM >> YES.
3:50:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME, COUNCILMAN GUDES WANTS TO PUT IT
3:50:38PM FOR THE 20th?
3:50:40PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES.
3:50:41PM WE WERE JUST TALKING THROUGH LOGISTICS OF THE 20th.
3:50:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT LOOKS KIND OF HEAVY.
3:50:47PM WE WANT TO GET THIS OFF THE PLATE. BUT IT'S KIND OF HEAVY.
3:50:50PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT'S HEAVY WITH?
3:50:53PM EVERYTHING ELSE THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING.
3:50:54PM [ LAUGHTER ]
3:50:55PM BUT I DO BELIEVE --
3:50:57PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE NO LONGER A SMALL CITY ANYMORE.
3:50:59PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: AGREED.
3:51:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: TIMES HAVE CHANGED.
3:51:03PM PEOPLE WANT CHANGE.
3:51:04PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: AND WE WANT TO PROVIDE THAT CHANGE.
3:51:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
3:51:10PM DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?
3:51:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
3:51:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S MAKE A MOTION.
3:51:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ORDINANCE TO COME BACK, DRAFT COME BACK ON
3:51:16PM OCTOBER 20th.
3:51:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
3:51:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY
3:51:21PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:51:22PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:51:23PM >> UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
3:51:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: UNDER STAFF REPORTS, YES.
3:51:29PM >>CLERK: GUDES?
3:51:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
3:51:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
3:51:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
3:51:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
3:51:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:51:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
3:51:38PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH COUNCILMEMBER
3:51:40PM CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
3:51:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: INFORMATION REPORTS, PLEASE.
3:51:45PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:51:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST REALLY FAST, IF I MAY.
3:51:48PM I WANT FOR THE OCTOBER 2022 WORKSHOP FOR STAFF TO COME BACK
3:51:54PM ON IDEAS.
3:51:56PM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, FORMER MAYOR BUCKHORN DID AN AUTISM
3:52:03PM FRIENDLY TAMPA, AND I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT IDEAS HOW WE CAN
3:52:06PM IMPROVE CITY SERVICES TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN -- AND I'M
3:52:10PM SURE THEY CAN FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HARD OF HEARING AND DEAF.
3:52:13PM I KNOW WE ALL KNOW A LOT OF GOOD FOLKS INCLUDING DC
3:52:20PM GOUTOUFAS AND OTHERS WHO ARE VERY, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT
3:52:23PM THAT ISSUE SO JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE, IF I MAY.
3:52:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:52:28PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:52:30PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:52:32PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:52:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND.
3:52:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THEN THIS ISN'T A MOTION BUT FOR THE
3:52:38PM PUBLIC, I SAW AN ARTICLE THAT SOMEONE SENT ME, HILLSBOROUGH
3:52:41PM COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER IS 500 PERCENT OF CAPACITY AND THERE'S
3:52:46PM A FREE ADOPTION DAY, SATURDAY, WHERE ALL FEES FOR
3:52:50PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ARE GOING TO BE REDUCED.
3:52:52PM I AM GOING TO BE GOING TOMORROW TO FALKENBURG TO THE PET
3:52:55PM RESOURCE CENTER TO TRY TO PROMOTE THIS BUT FOR THE CITY AND
3:52:59PM OTHERS TO PROMOTE THIS, SO THERE ARE MANY ANIMALS OUT THERE
3:53:03PM WHO NEED A GOOD HOME AND THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
3:53:06PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
3:53:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NONE.
3:53:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NONE.
3:53:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, SIR.
3:53:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: VERY QUICKLY SIR.
3:53:15PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SCHEDULE THURSDAY, AUGUST
3:53:17PM 4, 2022, NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA, THE PRESENTATION OF THE
3:53:22PM YEAR OF 2023 BUDGET BY MAYOR JANE CASTOR.
3:53:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:53:29PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:53:31PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:53:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
3:53:35PM MOTION FOR COUNCIL TO SCHEDULE THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET
3:53:39PM HEARINGS FOR THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING ON TUESDAY,
3:53:44PM SEPTEMBER 2nd -- EXCUSE ME, SEPTEMBER 6, 2022 AT 5:01
3:53:49PM AND THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD AT THE SPECIAL
3:53:52PM CALLED MEETING SCHEDULED ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 2022 AT
3:53:58PM 5:01.
3:53:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
3:54:00PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:54:01PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:54:02PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:54:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT, SIR.
3:54:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. FEELEY?
3:54:15PM MS. TRAVIS?
3:54:17PM MR. BENSON?
3:54:18PM AND EVERYBODY THAT'S SITTING RIGHT THERE.
3:54:19PM WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED ONE HELL OF A LOT TODAY.
3:54:23PM I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
3:54:25PM I THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THE WAY WHICH YOU DID.
3:54:29PM AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:54:33PM MR. MASSEY, THANK YOU.
3:54:35PM AND MADAM CLERK, THANK YOU.
3:54:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:54:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN
3:54:41PM MANISCALCO.
3:54:42PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:54:44PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:54:45PM WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 5:01.
3:54:49PM (MEETING ADJOURNED)
3:54:52PM

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