TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JULY 14, 2022
9:00 A.M.
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09:01:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JULY 14th, 2022.
09:01:41 WHO HAS THE INVOCATION TODAY?
09:01:44 ALL RIGHT.
09:01:45 IN THAT CASE, LET'S PLEASE RISE FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
09:01:50 [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
09:02:07 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:02:08 PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF THE FLAG TO OUR COUNTRY.
09:02:11 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:02:24 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:02:24 PLEASE BE SEATED.
09:02:25 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:02:33 >> CARLSON?
09:02:33 VIERA?
09:02:34 MANISCALCO?
09:02:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:02:38 >> HURTAK?
09:02:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:02:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:02:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:02:42 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:02:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
09:02:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, GOOD MORNING.
09:02:48 AND GOOD MORNING TO MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
09:02:50 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:02:53 I'M HAPPY TO BE BACK.
09:02:54 I'M A LITTLE RUSTY.
09:02:56 I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL AND I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING BACK
09:03:01 INTO THE GROOVE.
09:03:02 SO I THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:03:03 I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S COURTESIES.
09:03:06 TODAY, THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA AT TODAY'S
09:03:11 MEETING, THE 14th OF JULY, 2022, IS AVAILABLE TO BE SEEN
09:03:19 AND VIEWED BY THE PUBLIC ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640, FRONTIER
09:03:23 CHANNEL 15 AND ON THE INTERNET.
09:03:24 AT www.TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:03:30 NOW, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND THIS IN PERSON IN CITY
09:03:34 COUNCIL CHAMBERS IN CITY HALL OR VIRTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN
09:03:36 THE MEETING BY USING WHAT IS REFERRED TO BY THE STATE OF
09:03:39 FLORIDA AND RULES AS COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR CMT
09:03:43 WHICH REQUIRES PREREGISTRATION, AND THAT IS AVAILABLE ON THE
09:03:47 CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE, THE INSTRUCTIONS AT
09:03:50 TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL OR TAMPA.GOV/PUBLICCOMMENT.
09:03:55 NOW, TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY IN PUBLIC HEARINGS USING CMT
09:03:59 PREREGISTRATION IS REQUIRED.
09:04:01 AND COMMENTS SPECIFIC TO A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HEARD WHEN
09:04:05 IT APPEARS ON THE AGENDA.
09:04:06 AND PUBLIC INSTRUCTIONS FOR PARTICIPATING IN QUASI-JUDICIAL
09:04:11 AND LEGISLATIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE AVAILABLE AT
09:04:13 TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE.
09:04:20 PLEASE NOTE IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN QUASI-JUDICIAL
09:04:22 MATTERS REMOTELY CMT, CELL PHONES AND SMART PHONES ARE NOT
09:04:25 COMPATIBLE AS THEY WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO SHARE YOUR CAMERA
09:04:28 WHEN CONNECTED.
09:04:28 YOU MUST HAVE ACCESS TO A COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA DEVICE SUCH
09:04:31 AS A TABLET OR A COMPUTER EQUIPPED WITH A CAMERA OR
09:04:34 MICROPHONE THAT ENABLE YOU TO BE SEEN BY VIDEO AND HEARD BY
09:04:37 AUDIO.
09:04:37 AND THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH REGARD TO THE WAIVER OF THE
09:04:41 RULES, WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL PLEASE MAKE A MOTION TO
09:04:44 THAT EFFECT.
09:04:46 >> SO MOVED.
09:04:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:04:48 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:04:49 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:04:51 >> AYE.
09:04:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAD STARTED ON
09:04:54 TIME; HOWEVER, THERE WAS A LITTLE GLITCH, AND WE DO HAVE
09:04:58 SOMEONE HERE TO GIVE THE INVOCATION.
09:05:01 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:05:11 >>LYNN HURTAK: TODAY, I AM INCREDIBLY EXCITED TO BRING THE
09:05:17 YBOR MISFITS MICROSANCTUARY, WHICH IS A SMALL,
09:05:20 ALL-VOLUNTEER, NONPROFIT DEDICATED TO PROVIDING CARE AND
09:05:25 COMPASSION TO YBOR'S WILDLIFE WITH AN EMPHASIS ON TAMPA'S
09:05:28 CELEBRATED FERAL FLOCK.
09:05:30 IN THEIR SHORT TIME, THEY HELPED HUNDREDS OF ANIMALS
09:05:33 INCLUDING POSSUMS, DOGS, CATS, KITTENS, SONGBIRDS, DOVES,
09:05:37 RAPTORS AND, OF COURSE, CHICKENS.
09:05:39 THEY ARE AN OFFSHOOT OF THE YBOR CHICKEN SOCIETY WHO, FOR
09:05:39 SIX YEARS, HAS BEEN PROMOTING YBOR CITY AND ITS SUPPORTIVE
09:05:39 BUSINESSES.
09:05:44 IN ADDITION, THEY CONDUCT WEEKLY PARK CLEANUPS AND HOLD
09:05:48 CLOTHING AND BLANKET DRIVES FOR SOME OF YBOR CITY'S
09:05:52 VULNERABLE RESIDENTS EACH WINTER.
09:05:53 REPRESENTING THE YBOR MISFITS IS DYLAN BREESE, A TAMPA AREA
09:05:57 RESIDENT SINCE 2005.
09:05:58 HE HAS LIVED IN YBOR CITY FOR TEN YEARS.
09:06:00 IN ADDITION TO OPERATING THE RESCUE, HE MANAGES THE YBOR
09:06:03 CITY SATURDAY MARKET AND SERVES ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD FOR
09:06:06 THE VM YBOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
09:06:09 HE IS JOINED BY ANA GUTIERREZ, AN YBOR CITY RESIDENT SINCE
09:06:13 1997 AND A SCHOOL COUNSELOR FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC
09:06:15 SCHOOLS.
09:06:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE RISE.
09:06:27 >> THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK FOR INVITING US TO
09:06:31 DELIVER THE INVOCATION AND TO ALL OF COUNCIL FOR HAVING US
09:06:35 HERE TODAY.
09:06:35 I'M GOING TO READ A SHORT PRAYER WRITTEN BY ALBERT
09:06:38 SCHWEITZER, WINNER OF THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE IN 1952 FOR HIS
09:06:43 PHILOSOPHY OF REVERENCE FOR LIFE.
09:06:45 LORD, HEAR OUR HUMBLE PRAYER FOR OUR FRIENDS, THE ANIMALS,
09:06:50 ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE HURT OR LOST OR DESERTED OR
09:06:56 FRIGHTENED OR HUNGRY AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN LOST.
09:07:00 WE ENTREAT FOR THEM ALL THY MERCY AND PITY, AND FOR THOSE
09:07:03 WHO DEAL WITH THEM, WE ASK A HEART OF COMPASSION AND GENTLE
09:07:08 HANDS AND KINDLY WORDS.
09:07:09 MAKE US OURSELVES TO BE TRUE FRIENDS TO ALL OF EARTH'S
09:07:15 CREATURES AND SO TO SHARE THE BLESSINGS OF THE MERCIFUL.
09:07:19 AMEN.
09:07:19 THANK YOU.
09:07:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, WE HAVE A GREAT SERVICEMAN
09:07:41 HERE THAT I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE A COMMENDATION TO
09:07:45 ON THE AGENDA.
09:08:03 >> IT'S MY GREAT PLEASURE, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, TO GIVE A
09:08:07 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION TO OUR GOOD FRIEND, COLONEL
09:08:11 DJ REYES WHO IS WITH US HERE TODAY.
09:08:13 EVERYBODY HERE I KNOW KNOWS COLONEL REYES AND THE WONDERFUL
09:08:17 WORK THAT HE DOES.
09:08:18 BEFORE WE DO, I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION SOME FOLKS WHO ARE
09:08:21 HERE AS WELL FROM OFFICES.
09:08:23 I SEE PASTOR TOM ATCHINSON WITH NEW BEGINNINGS.
09:08:27 I SEE SHERRY DENHAM WITH GOVERNOR DESANTIS, LUIS RAUL
09:08:32 LARACUENTE WITH THE OFFICE OF RICK SCOTT AND MARCIA MAHAYA
09:08:38 WITH CONGRESSWOMAN KATHY CASTOR.
09:08:42 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO COME UP.
09:08:45 PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS.
09:08:46 IT'S FUNNY, IN HAD DEALING WITH COLONEL REYES, IT'S REALLY,
09:08:50 REALLY HARD TO KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN WITH THIS GUY.
09:08:53 WE WERE JUST TALKING THAT WE MET ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, ALMOST
09:08:57 ON THE MONEY, TEN YEARS AGO, WHICH IS JUST AMAZING.
09:09:01 BUT THIS PARTICULAR CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION WAS
09:09:04 NECESSITATED BY THE FACT THAT COLONEL REYES WAS INDUCTED
09:09:07 INTO THE FLORIDA VETERANS HALL OF FAME, AND WHAT A
09:09:10 REMARKABLE VETERAN HE IS.
09:09:12 HE IS A MAN WHO COMES FROM A MILITARY FAMILY.
09:09:14 HIS FATHER HAVING SERVED 26 YEARS IN THE UNITED STATES
09:09:17 MILITARY, INCLUDING SERVICE IN KOREA AND VIETNAM.
09:09:21 COLONEL REYES WOULD GO ON TO SERVE FOR 33 YEARS IN A CAREER
09:09:24 IN MILITARY INTELLIGENCE SPECIAL OPERATIONS IN THE UNITED
09:09:27 STATES ARMY WITH MULTIPLE COMBAT TOURS IN THE MIDDLE EAST
09:09:31 AND SERVICE RECORD THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT FOR HOURS UPON
09:09:35 HOURS.
09:09:35 COLONEL REYES IS A PROUD GRADUATE OF NUMEROUS, DISTINGUISHED
09:09:39 INSTITUTIONS, INCLUDING NOTRE DAME UNIVERSITY, THE U.S.
09:09:44 NAVAL WAR COLLEGE AND HE RECEIVED A LAW DEGREE FROM TEMPLE
09:09:46 UNIVERSITY COLLEGE OF LAW.
09:09:48 HIS CENTRAL -- HE HAS MANY, MANY ACHIEVEMENTS THAT I'LL GO
09:09:52 OVER BRIEFLY.
09:09:53 BUT HIS TOP ACHIEVEMENT THAT I THINK IS JUST THE CENTRAL
09:09:56 THING THAT REALLY MAKES EVERYTHING SO SPECIAL IS THE
09:09:59 VETERANS TREATMENT COURT THAT COLONEL REYES FOUNDED IN TERMS
09:10:03 OF THE MENTORSHIP PROGRAM ABOUT NINE YEARS AGO WHEN COLONEL
09:10:07 REYES WALKED INTO THE OFFICE OF JUDGE RICHARD WEIS AND SAID,
09:10:13 HEY, LISTEN, I WANT TO HELP OUT YOUR VETERANS TREATMENT
09:10:15 COURT, FROM THAT WOULD START THE VETERANS TREATMENT COURT
09:10:18 MENTORSHIP PROGRAM FOR THE 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT WHICH WE
09:10:21 ARE ALSO VERY PROUD OF RUNNING THROUGH JUDGE WEIS, JUDGE
09:10:27 GREG HOLDER AND NOW UNDER MICHAEL SCIONTI, COLONEL REYES
09:10:32 WITH HIS MANY MENTORS HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB IN THAT
09:10:36 REGARD.
09:10:36 HE HAS WORKED WITH VETERANS HELPING VETERANS OF HILLSBOROUGH
09:10:38 COUNTY.
09:10:38 ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, COLONEL REYES HAS BEEN A STRONG
09:10:42 ADVOCATE FOR VETERANS ON SO MANY LEVELS.
09:10:44 IN 2020, HELPING TO PASS THE VETERANS TREATMENT COURT
09:10:48 LEGISLATION, WHICH WAS SIGNED INTO LAW BY OUR PRIOR
09:10:52 PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT TRUMP.
09:10:57 IN 2022, COLONEL REYES WORKED SO HARD FOR THE BIPARTISAN
09:11:00 BURN PIT VICTIMS LEGISLATION, WHICH WAS RECENTLY SIGNED INTO
09:11:03 LAW BY PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN.
09:11:05 ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, COLONEL REYES AND HIS FAMILY, HIS WIFE
09:11:10 JULIE, HAVE BEEN OUTSTANDING ADVOCATES FOR PERSONS WITH
09:11:14 SPECIAL NEEDS AS THEY HAVE BEEN PERSONALLY TOUCHED IN THAT
09:11:16 REGARD.
09:11:17 ON THAT TOPIC, WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A WHOLE LONG
09:11:21 WHILE FOR A SEPARATE ISSUE.
09:11:22 OTHER HONORS INCLUDE BEING THE 36th COMMUNITY HERO BY THE
09:11:24 TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING, SERVING ON THE CITY OF TAMPA CIVILIANS
09:11:28 REVIEW BOARD.
09:11:29 BEING THE MILITARY OFFICERS ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA,
09:11:33 DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD RECIPIENT, THE UNIVERSITY OF
09:11:36 NOTRE DAME'S REVEREND WILLIAM CORBY AWARD FOR DISTINGUISHED
09:11:40 MILITARY AND COMMUNITY SERVICE.
09:11:42 THE LIBERTY BELL AWARD FROM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BAR
09:11:43 ASSOCIATION, AND VERY SOON, I SUSPECT SERVING ON THE TAMPA
09:11:51 VETERANS ADVISORY BOARD.
09:11:53 HE IS A MAN WHO ALWAYS GIVES BACK.
09:11:55 I AM HONORED TO CALL HIM A FRIEND.
09:11:59 IN THE LAST TEN YEARS, COLONEL, WE HAVE BEEN FRIENDS AND SO
09:12:03 MUCH OF OUR LIFE HAS GONE CONSISTENT.
09:12:05 I ALWAYS SAY -- AND THIS IS A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE,
09:12:08 IF YOU WILL -- IN MY PERSONAL LIFE, COLONEL REYES AND HIS
09:12:11 WIFE HAVE ALSO BEEN SOMETHING OF A CUPID, ALWAYS PUSHING ME.
09:12:16 YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
09:12:19 TO ULTIMATELY BE WITH A WOMAN I WOULD MARRY.
09:12:24 COLLEEN O'BRIEN.
09:12:26 HE IS TRULY ONE OF THE MOST DISTINGUISHED PEOPLE IN THE CITY
09:12:29 OF TAMPA.
09:12:30 HE IS A PERSON WHO BY REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE WE HAVE
09:12:33 HERE TODAY HAS WON THE RESPECT OF ELECTED OFFICIALS ACROSS
09:12:36 THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS BECAUSE
09:12:39 THE WORK THAT HE DOES BRINGS US TOGETHER AS RESIDENTS OF
09:12:43 TAMPA AND AS PROUD AMERICANS.
09:12:45 THAT IS THE WORK THAT WE HONOR HERE TODAY.
09:12:47 HE IS A GREAT MAN.
09:12:48 I CALL HIM OUR HAWAIIAN CAPTAIN AMERICA, COLONEL DJ REYES.
09:12:54 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:12:55 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:13:03 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:13:05 THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, FOR THIS GREAT HONOR.
09:13:08 I WANT TO, LIKE, STEP OUT OF PROTOCOL JUST FOR A MINUTE, IF
09:13:12 YOU DON'T MIND.
09:13:13 I WANT TO TURN AROUND AND TO THE FOLKS THAT YOU RECOGNIZE,
09:13:17 IF YOU WOULD -- THERE YOU ARE.
09:13:20 SOME OF YOU.
09:13:21 I WANT THE REST THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING THAT
09:13:24 I'M INVOLVED IN, PLEASE STAND UP.
09:13:26 YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T STAND UP, I'LL
09:13:30 TELL YOU TO STAND UP.
09:13:31 SO, AGAIN, THE REASON WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT, A COUPLE OF
09:13:39 REASONS, IS BECAUSE WHAT WE DO HERE IN TAMPA, LIKE ANYTHING
09:13:43 ELSE, BUT WHAT WE DO IN TAMPA, IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO SOLVE A
09:13:47 PROBLEM, IRRESPECTIVE OF POLITICAL AFFILIATIONS.
09:13:51 AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS WHAT I CALL NOT A BIPARTISAN
09:13:54 EFFORT.
09:13:55 IT IS A NONPARTISAN EFFORT BECAUSE IT DEALS WITH A SENSITIVE
09:14:00 TOPIC, IN THIS CASE, WITH VETERANS AND HELPING VETERANS.
09:14:02 AND THERE ARE SO MANY ISSUES THAT WE'RE TACKLING RIGHT NOW.
09:14:07 BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE GOT FROM VOLUNTEERS, WHICH REALLY
09:14:11 MAKE THE FABRIC, COMPRISE THE FABRIC OF THE VETERANS
09:14:14 TREATMENT COURT, SO VOLUNTEER VETERANS, SUCH AS MY FELLOW
09:14:18 COMRADE ANDY STEPHENS, RECENT RETIRED COLONEL OF THE UNITED
09:14:22 STATES AIR FORCE RESERVE, FORMER DEPUTY WING COMMANDER ON
09:14:26 BASE, ALEX SIRSEK FROM BAY AREA LEGAL.
09:14:31 AND SHE HAS MORE HATS THAN EVEN LUIS VIERA, BUT SO
09:14:36 INTERTWINED WITH THE MILITARY COMMUNITY.
09:14:38 CURRENT MANAGING DIRECTOR OF THE MAJOR GENERAL ERNEST BECKY,
09:14:43 MILITARY AND VETERANS CLINIC AT BAY AREA LEGAL SERVICES.
09:14:46 AND SHE ALSO HELPS RUN THE MILITARY VETERANS AFFAIRS
09:14:50 COMMITTEE ON HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
09:14:53 YOU'VE GOT THE GOOD PASTOR, PASTOR TOM FROM NEW BEGINNINGS.
09:14:57 WE WERE JUST THERE JUST THE OTHER DAY TO PRESENT A DONATION
09:15:00 TO HIM ON BEHALF OF FLORIDA VETERANS FOUNDATION, WHICH IS
09:15:03 THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION OF THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
09:15:06 VETERANS AFFAIRS OF WHICH I AM AFFILIATED WITH.
09:15:10 SO REALLY PLEASED.
09:15:12 PASTOR, WHAT YOU DO THERE IN HELPING OUR HOMELESS AND OUR
09:15:16 VETERANS THAT ARE STRUGGLING IS REALLY HANDS OF GOD.
09:15:21 IT REALLY IS.
09:15:21 GOD BLESS YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND CONTINUING TO
09:15:24 DO.
09:15:25 I HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK TO ANA FROM CAMARADERIE
09:15:29 FOUNDATION.
09:15:30 CAMARADERIE FOUNDATION IS ONE OF MANY, BUT IT'S A
09:15:33 SIGNIFICANT 501(C)(3) BASED OUT OF ORLANDO.
09:15:36 BUT ANA HAS GOT THIS AREA, AND THEY FOCUS ON OUR VETERANS,
09:15:41 OUR MILITARY, OUR FAMILIES, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE
09:15:44 STRUGGLING WITH SOME CONDITIONS SUCH AS PTSD, TRAUMATIC
09:15:47 BRAIN INJURY AND OTHER ISSUES THAT AFFECT THE VERY FABRIC OF
09:15:51 OUR VETERANS, OUR MILITARY, AND THEIR FAMILIES.
09:15:54 AT THE GOVERNMENTAL LEVEL, SHERRY DENHAM WITH THE GOVERNOR'S
09:15:59 OFFICE AND THEN I DON'T KNOW HOW I RATED HERE, BUT I HAVE
09:16:04 LUIS HERE.
09:16:05 LOGAN HERE.
09:16:07 I'VE GOT MARK FROM SENATOR SCOTT'S OFFICE AND, OF COURSE,
09:16:10 OUR BELOVED CONGRESSWOMAN CASTOR.
09:16:14 WE HAVE MARCIA HERE.
09:16:17 AGAIN, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE
09:16:20 THREAD FROM LOCAL, CITY, COUNTY, STATE, AND FEDERAL.
09:16:25 AND I WILL TELL YOU, A LOT OF THIS HAPPENED BECAUSE WHEN I
09:16:30 GOT BACK FROM AFGHANISTAN AND AFTER I RETIRED, I WAS LOOKING
09:16:34 FOR SOME COMMUNITY SERVICE.
09:16:36 I KNEW I WAS GOING TO STAY HERE IN TAMPA WITH MY FAMILY.
09:16:39 I SAID I'VE GOT TO DO SOME SORT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE.
09:16:42 I SAW A SPECIAL ON TV ABOUT THE VETERANS TREATMENT COURT IN
09:16:45 TEXAS.
09:16:46 WHAT DID I DO?
09:16:46 I PICKED UP THE PHONE, LATE AT NIGHT, AND I CALLED THIS GUY
09:16:50 HERE.
09:16:51 SOME LAWYER AT THE TIME.
09:16:52 JUST A LAWYER.
09:16:53 I SAID YOU KNOW EVERYBODY.
09:16:54 CAN YOU HELP ME OUT?
09:16:55 THE NEXT DAY HE HOOKED ME UP WITH THEN JUDGE WEIS WHO WAS
09:17:00 EMBARKING ON ESTABLISHING THE FIRST-EVER VETERANS TREATMENT
09:17:03 COURT HERE IN TAMPA.
09:17:04 THAT WAS AUGUST 17th, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, OF 2013.
09:17:11 IN JUNE OF 2019, I WAS INVITED TO BRIEF OUR PROGRAM, BECAUSE
09:17:16 IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL.
09:17:18 I WAS INVITED TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO BRIEF IT.
09:17:20 AND THEN I WENT ON CAPITOL HILL AND BRIEFED THE
09:17:24 CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION.
09:17:25 SO THAT SHOULD TELL YOU WHERE WE WENT FROM 2013 TO 2019 AND
09:17:30 NOW 2022.
09:17:31 TAMPA'S VETERANS TREATMENT COURT UNDER THE ABLE STEWARDSHIP
09:17:35 OF JUDGE MICHAEL SCIONTI IS PROBABLY THE LEADING VETERANS
09:17:39 TREATMENT COURT, PROBLEM-SOLVING COURT IN THE NATION.
09:17:43 YOU ALL SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF THAT.
09:17:45 AND YOU ALL SHOULD BRAG ABOUT IT BECAUSE AS JUDGE SCIONTI
09:17:50 ALWAYS SAYS, IT'S NOT HIS COURT; IT'S YOUR COURT.
09:17:54 IT'S THE PEOPLE'S COURT.
09:17:55 I HOPE TODAY, IF ANYTHING WE LEARN, TAKE A LESSON OF THE
09:18:00 VETERANS TREATMENT COURT AND THE COLLABORATION AND THE
09:18:04 PEOPLE THAT COME TOGETHER FOR A COMMON CAUSE, AND I WILL
09:18:08 TELL YOU, IF YOU DO THAT IN TAMPA FOR ANY PROBLEM, WE'RE
09:18:12 GOING TO SOLVE ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS, AND WE WILL BE THE
09:18:15 SHINING CITY ON THE -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE AWARD.
09:18:18 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:18:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL MEMBERS?
09:18:28 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:18:30 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR
09:18:32 COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR COUNTRY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING
09:18:35 OF ALL THE GREAT THINGS YOU'LL DO IN THE FUTURE.
09:18:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK YOU SAID IT ALL.
09:18:42 YOUR SERVICE, DEFENDING THIS COUNTRY, YOUR SERVICE HERE IN
09:18:45 OUR COMMUNITY FROM THE STATE, FROM THE CITY TO THE WHITE
09:18:48 HOUSE.
09:18:48 YOU'VE BEEN EVERYWHERE AND YOU'VE REPRESENTED AND GIVEN BACK
09:18:53 TO SO MANY.
09:18:54 YOU SAID YOU CAME BACK AND YOU WANTED TO GIVE BACK TO THE
09:18:56 COMMUNITY.
09:18:57 I THINK YOU'VE DONE IT A HUNDREDFOLD.
09:19:00 WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:19:02 THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, VIERA, FOR BRINGING COLONEL REYES
09:19:06 HERE, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
09:19:09 AND I THINK THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.
09:19:11 YOU'RE BOTH YOUNG, AND YOU'RE --
09:19:14 >> HE'S YOUNG.
09:19:15 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:19:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'LL KEEP ON HELPING AND SERVING A LOT
09:19:19 OF PEOPLE.
09:19:20 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:19:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:19:23 >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:19:25 I THINK IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL HOW THIS COMMUNITY, WE DON'T
09:19:28 OFTEN REMEMBER THAT WE REALLY ARE A MILITARY CITY.
09:19:31 AND SO IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL THAT WE ARE REALLY FOCUSING ON
09:19:34 THE VETERANS WHO AFTER THEY FINISH THEIR SERVICE, A LOT OF
09:19:38 PEOPLE STAY.
09:19:40 AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WHO NEED HELP CAN
09:19:45 GET IT FROM THE LOCAL TO THE STATE, AS YOU SAID, TO THE
09:19:50 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
09:19:51 AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS AND CONTINUING TO
09:19:55 STRENGTHEN THEM.
09:19:56 WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
09:19:58 I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU FOR YEARS TO COME.
09:20:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:20:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COLONEL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THIS
09:20:06 COUNTRY.
09:20:06 THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN TAMPA.
09:20:08 MOST APPRECIATED AND CONTINUE TO BLESS YOU WITH THE MINDSET
09:20:13 TO HELP FOLKS IN NEED.
09:20:14 NOT JUST VETERANS.
09:20:15 YOU HAVE A MINDSET TO HELP EVERYONE.
09:20:17 GOD BLESS YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
09:20:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:20:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COLONEL, YOU ARE ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE I
09:20:23 KNOW THAT CAN GET REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT, INDEPENDENTS COME IN
09:20:27 AND THEY ARE SPEAKING TO EACH OTHER WHEN THEY LEAVE.
09:20:29 I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
09:20:29 I SEE YOU ARE A COHESIVE INDIVIDUAL.
09:20:32 GRACIAS.
09:20:33 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:20:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COLONEL, THERE IS THAT SAYING, "LEAVE NO MAN
09:20:40 OR WOMAN BEHIND."
09:20:41 YOU EPITOMIZE THAT.
09:20:44 OUR MILITARY, OUR VETERANS ARE HAVING A TOUGH TIME RIGHT
09:20:47 NOW.
09:20:48 THANK YOU FOR HELPING THEM IN THEIR STRUGGLES THAT THEY MAY
09:20:51 HAVE.
09:20:52 COLONEL, THANK YOU.
09:20:53 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:21:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
09:21:01 DO WE SEE LEGAL DOWN HERE -- EXCUSE ME, CITY LEGAL DOWN
09:21:05 HERE?
09:21:05 WOW.
09:21:06 OKAY.
09:21:07 THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH -- AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO THROUGH OUR
09:21:12 AGENDA.
09:21:12 LET'S START WITH STAFF REPORTS.
09:21:17 JUST TO CLARIFY OUR AGENDA.
09:21:20 LET'S GO WITH ITEM NUMBER -- THERE WILL BE NO ADMINISTRATIVE
09:21:27 UPDATES.
09:21:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, EXCUSE ME.
09:21:31 I WOULD LIKE CHIEF BENNETT FOR ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES, I
09:21:34 HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR HIM FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AS
09:21:36 IT RELATES TO JUNETEENTH.
09:21:39 I REALIZE THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO RECOGNIZE IT AS A CLOSED
09:21:42 HOLIDAY.
09:21:42 THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME.
09:21:44 SOME SORT OF RATIFICATION.
09:21:45 I DON'T KNOW IF THE BOARD IS AWARE OF THAT, BUT NO
09:21:48 INDICATION OF JUNETEENTH BEING A CLOSED HOLIDAY FOR THE
09:21:50 CITY.
09:21:51 I'M CONCERNED.
09:21:52 WE DID A RESOLUTION BACK IN 2020, 568 TALKING ABOUT EQUITY
09:21:56 AND BALANCE IN THE CITY WITH AFRICAN AMERICANS.
09:21:59 TO ME, I WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION WHY THAT WAS NOT DONE
09:22:02 DURING THAT TIME DURING STAFF REPORTS.
09:22:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL SECOND THAT.
09:22:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF BENNETT, ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
09:22:11 LET'S GO FORWARD.
09:22:20 I WILL MAKE SURE -- OKAY, HE IS ONLINE.
09:22:23 LET'S GO WITH ITEM NUMBER 4.
09:22:25 DO WE NEED STAFF FOR ITEM NUMBER 4?
09:22:34 THERE IS A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
09:22:41 WE'LL HAVE TO READ FOR THAT.
09:22:43 THAT'S FINE.
09:22:45 NUMBER 5.
09:22:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I SEE MR. BEARD HERE.
09:22:49 IF HE CAN GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW.
09:22:51 I THINK THERE ARE FOUR OR FIVE, SIX, ITEMS, BIG-TICKET
09:22:55 ITEMS, SO THE PUBLIC CAN KNOW, ESPECIALLY ABOUT THAT EBO,
09:22:59 HOW IT'S WORKING.
09:23:00 I THINK THAT IS A BIG THING.
09:23:02 A COUPLE OF THOSE WE DID DO WELL ON AND I WANT TO RECOGNIZE
09:23:07 THAT DURING THAT TIME.
09:23:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:23:09 LET'S INCLUDE NUMBER 8 ALSO.
09:23:11 THE EBO ON THAT IS VERY HIGH.
09:23:13 I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THAT ALSO.
09:23:14 NUMBER 9?
09:23:15 THOSE ARE HIGH-TICKET ITEMS.
09:23:19 WE'LL KEEP NUMBER 9.
09:23:20 THANK YOU, MS. ZELMAN, FOR BEING HERE.
09:23:22 NUMBER 10?
09:23:23 COUNCILMAN VIERA IS OUTSIDE.
09:23:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT HAPPENED WITH NUMBER 10?
09:23:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MARTY, ARE YOU WITH US?
09:23:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
09:23:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NUMBER 11, DO WE NEED VIK FOR THAT?
09:23:42 OKAY.
09:23:44 WE WILL STRIKE NUMBER 11.
09:23:45 NUMBER 12.
09:23:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, PLEASE, IF I COULD.
09:23:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:23:49 13?
09:23:50 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THIS IS YOURS.
09:23:57 >>BILL CARLSON: UNLESS STAFF WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING, JUST
09:24:00 THANK YOU TO THEM FOR FINISHING PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
09:24:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SHALL WE STRIKE 13?
09:24:06 >> YES.
09:24:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:24:07 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14.
09:24:10 YES.
09:24:10 I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.
09:24:12 THAT'S THE ATF MONEY.
09:24:15 15?
09:24:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DO HAVE A MEMO, BUT LET'S SAY YES.
09:24:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:24:24 VIK WILL BE ONLINE.
09:24:26 EXCUSE ME, MR. BHIDE WILL BE ON THAT.
09:24:28 WE ALSO HAVE A REPORT FOR ITEM NUMBER 16 FROM CHIEF O'CONNOR
09:24:37 AND CHIEF TRIPP AND MR. STEVEN SIMON IS ALSO HERE.
09:24:43 I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT ALSO.
09:24:45 17?
09:24:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, WHY NOT.
09:24:51 THAT SHOULD BE BRIEF.
09:24:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:24:53 HE'S OUTSIDE.
09:24:54 I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THAT ALSO.
09:24:55 18.
09:24:57 >> ABSOLUTELY, YES.
09:24:58 THAT WOULD BE OCEA.
09:25:01 >>BILL CARLSON: 19, YES.
09:25:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: 19 YES.
09:25:03 20.
09:25:05 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
09:25:06 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:25:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND 21.
09:25:09 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:25:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 21 TO -- DO YOU
09:25:15 HAVE A DATE?
09:25:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I MEET WITH COUNCIL NEXT WEEK, WE COULD
09:25:18 HAVE SOMETHING BACK IN TWO WEEKS.
09:25:20 THE 28th WOULD BE FINE.
09:25:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:25:23 SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:25:27 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:25:28 >> AYE.
09:25:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:25:28 ARE WE GOING INTO NOW THE REST OF THE AGENDA?
09:25:33 IS THERE ANYTHING TO BE CONTINUED?
09:25:37 >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
09:25:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
09:25:44 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:25:46 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:25:47 DO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM F.D.O.T.?
09:25:56 >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
09:25:57 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:26:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU THERE?
09:26:07 >> I'LL BE PRESENTING ON THE KENNEDY BOULEVARD PROJECT.
09:26:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE CAN HEAR YOU, BUT WE CAN'T SEE YOU.
09:26:15 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:26:16 GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
09:26:18 VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
09:26:21 THIS IS THE QUARTER UPDATE BY F.D.O.T. WHERE F.D.O.T. AT THE
09:26:28 REQUEST OF COUNCIL AS OF 2020 HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO COME ON
09:26:32 A QUARTERLY BASIS AND PRESENT ON PROJECTS THAT THEY ARE
09:26:36 WORKING ON WITHIN THE CITY.
09:26:39 THE PROJECT THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED TODAY BY KARA, WHO IS THE
09:26:46 PROJECT MANAGER OVER THE KENNEDY BOULEVARD ACCESS MANAGEMENT
09:26:49 PROJECT IS ALONG KENNEDY.
09:26:52 IT'S A SAFETY PROJECT.
09:26:54 KENNEDY, OF COURSE, IS A MAJOR TRANSIT CORRIDOR.
09:26:56 IT CONNECTS DOWNTOWN TO THE AIRPORT AND BEYOND.
09:27:01 IT'S ALSO AN EVACUATION ROUTE.
09:27:04 AND THE ELEMENTS THAT F.D.O.T. HAS INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS
09:27:09 PROJECT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S VISION ZERO
09:27:15 INITIATIVES, AND WE HAVE SOME SHARED ASPECTS ON THIS PROJECT
09:27:19 AS WELL.
09:27:20 AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO HAND IT OVER TO OUR PARTNERS AT
09:27:23 F.D.O.T.
09:27:25 KARA, PLEASE TAKE IT AWAY.
09:27:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HANG ON ONE SECOND.
09:27:29 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:27:29 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY, I
09:27:32 MADE THE MOTION TO PUT THIS ON THE CALENDAR AND WE MOVED IT
09:27:35 FROM I THINK THE CRA TO HERE SO WE COULD TALK ABOUT MORE
09:27:38 THAN JUST THE CRA DISTRICTS.
09:27:39 JUST REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WHEN WE SET THIS UP, THE IDEA IS
09:27:43 IT IS A TEN-MINUTE UPDATE.
09:27:44 IF WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS HALF HOUR, HOUR, WE CAN
09:27:47 SET THAT UP AS MUCH AS D.O.T. WANTS.
09:27:51 FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED, THIS IS MEANT TO BE A SHORT, QUICK
09:27:54 UPDATE TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW.
09:27:56 OKAY.
09:27:56 THANK YOU.
09:27:59 >>VIK BHIDE: KARA?
09:28:00 >> THANK YOU.
09:28:01 AM I ABLE TO SHARE MY SCREEN?
09:28:04 ARE YOU ABLE TO MAKE ME A PRESENTER?
09:28:06 THERE WE GO.
09:28:08 GOOD MORNING.
09:28:22 I'M KARA VAN ETTEN
09:28:25 I'LL PRESENT ON THE KENNEDY BOULEVARD PROJECT.
09:28:27 THIS PROJECT IS APPROXIMATELY 1.9 MILES LONG, ALONG KENNEDY
09:28:34 BOULEVARD FROM WESTSHORE BOULEVARD TO WOODLAND AVENUE.
09:28:38 FURTHER JUSTIFIED BY REEVALUATING THE RECENT FIVE-YEAR CRASH
09:28:46 HISTORY.
09:28:47 F.D.O.T. ALSO PARTNERED WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH TPO TO
09:28:50 COMPLETE A MULTIMODAL SAFETY REVIEW.
09:28:55 BICYCLE SAFETY AND COMFORT ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
09:28:57 CONSTRUCTION BEGAN IN JANUARY AND IS EXPECTED TO END EARLY
09:29:01 2023.
09:29:06 BENEFIT ACCESS MANAGEMENT IT REDUCES CONFLICT POINTS AND
09:29:09 REDUCES NUMBER OF CRASHES.
09:29:11 CONFLICT POINTS ARE LOCATIONS ALONG THE ROAD OR -- DRIVERS
09:29:17 CAN BE OVERWHELMED BY CONFLICT POINT NEAR ONE ANOTHER
09:29:19 INCREASING THE POTENTIAL CRASHES.
09:29:22 THEREFORE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF CONFLICT POINTS, REDUCE THE
09:29:26 NUMBER OF CRASHES.
09:29:27 WITH THIS PROJECT WE ARE DIRECTIONALIZING THREE MEDIANS AND
09:29:31 CLOSING SEVEN.
09:29:33 EXTEND 21 TURN LANES THAT WILL ALLOW FEWER REAR END CRASHES.
09:29:41 THIS PROJECT WILL ALSO WIDEN SIDEWALKS TO EIGHT-FOOT WITHIN
09:29:46 THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND PROVIDE OTHER ADA REQUIREMENTS
09:29:49 INCLUDING REDUCING RADII, MODIFYING THE SIDEWALKS ALONG THE
09:29:53 DRIVEWAYS AND ADJUSTING LOCATIONS OF CURB CUTS.
09:29:56 INTERSECTION GEOMETRY WILL BE IMPROVED WHICH WILL MAKE CROSS
09:29:59 WALKS SAFER.
09:30:00 SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS WILL HAVE LED LIGHTS.
09:30:03 LEDs ARE BRIGHTER AND DETERIORATE SLOWER THAN LOW PRESSURE
09:30:11 SODIUM.
09:30:12 THIS MAKES PEDESTRIANS MORE VISIBLE.
09:30:14 WE'VE SEEN REDUCTION IN CRASHES WITH LED LIGHTING ALONG THE
09:30:19 CORRIDOR.
09:30:19 ALSO PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AT THE GRADY AVENUE AND KENNEDY
09:30:22 BOULEVARD INTERSECTION AND HENDERSON AND KENNEDY BOULEVARD
09:30:26 INTERSECTION.
09:30:26 THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE CORRIDORS.
09:30:30 THIS IS JUST EAST OF LOIS AVENUE.
09:30:33 THE YELLOW OBJECT SURROUNDING THE INTERSECTION ARE NEW LED
09:30:37 LIGHTING.
09:30:37 THE BLUE ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD ARE WIDENED
09:30:41 SIDEWALKS.
09:30:41 THE WHITE STRIPES AT THE INTERSECTIONS AND SIDE STREETS ARE
09:30:45 HIGH-EMPHASIS CROSS WALKS.
09:30:47 ORANGE IN THE MEDIAN IS CONCRETE TRAFFIC SEPARATOR.
09:30:50 THE GREEN AREA IN THE MEDIAN IS THE FUTURE LANDSCAPING
09:30:53 OPPORTUNITY AREA.
09:30:54 WE ARE CLOSING THE MEDIAN AND -- THIS WILL ALLOW US TO
09:31:02 EXTEND LEFT-TURN LANES AT LOIS AND CLARK SO VEHICLES DO NOT
09:31:05 BACK UP IN THE THRU LANES.
09:31:09 THROUGHOUT THE DESIGN PROCESS, F.D.O.T. COLLABORATED WITH
09:31:11 THE CITY OF TAMPA AND WERE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THE ITEMS
09:31:14 LISTED HERE.
09:31:15 NEW PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AT GRADY AVENUE.
09:31:17 GRADY AVENUE IS EQUIDISTANCE BETWEEN TWO SIGNALIZED
09:31:23 INTERSECTIONS, LOIS AND DALE MABRY.
09:31:24 IT REDUCES THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE SIGNALIZED PEDESTRIAN
09:31:27 CROSSING TO A QUARTER OF A MILE BETWEEN LOIS AND DALE MABRY.
09:31:30 INCREASED SIDEWALK WIDTH FROM SIX FEET, WHICH IS THE
09:31:34 RECOMMENDED WIDTH PER THE DESIGN MANUAL, TO EIGHT FEET WHERE
09:31:38 FEASIBLE WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY.
09:31:40 EIGHT-FOOT SIDEWALKS ARE GENERALLY LOCATED BETWEEN WESTSHORE
09:31:42 BOULEVARD AND CHURCH AVENUE.
09:31:44 SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS TO PROVIDE CONSISTENCY ALONG THE
09:31:49 CORRIDOR.
09:31:49 IN ADDITION, THE DESIGN SPEED ALONG THE CORRIDOR REDUCED
09:31:52 FROM 45 MILES PER HOUR TO 40 MILES PER HOUR.
09:31:56 THIS REDUCED -- ALLOWED US TO REDUCE THE LEFT-TURN LANE AND
09:32:02 INCREASE LANDSCAPE OPPORTUNITY ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
09:32:04 PER FLORIDA STATUTE WE HELD A VIRTUAL PUBLIC HEARING TO
09:32:08 REVIEW THE MEDIAN MODIFICATIONS ALONG THE CORRIDOR,
09:32:11 COORDINATE DIRECTLY WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS REGARDING
09:32:13 DRIVEWAY MODIFICATIONS, HARMONIZING SIDEWALKS OUTSIDE OF
09:32:17 F.D.O.T.'S RIGHT-OF-WAY AND OTHER RIGHT-OF-WAY
09:32:19 ENCROACHMENTS.
09:32:20 YOU CAN ACCESS THE PROJECT'S WEB PAGE USING THE LINK AT THE
09:32:23 BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE.
09:32:24 THE PUBLIC INFORMATION VIDEO, PRESENTATION AND PROJECT
09:32:28 GRAPHIC IS LOCATED ON THE PROJECT WEBSITE.
09:32:30 CONSTRUCTION IS ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH.
09:32:34 THIS MONTH A CONTRACT WILL LIKELY COMPLETE SIDEWALK AND
09:32:36 DRIVEWAYS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF KENNEDY AND CONTINUE
09:32:39 CONSTRUCTING TRAFFIC SEPARATOR, PAVEMENT OPERATIONS, AND
09:32:39 DRAINAGE INSTALLATION.
09:32:44 BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF CONSTRUCTION, THE CONTRACTOR WILL
09:32:46 CONTINUE TO WORK IN THE MEDIAN MOVING FROM EAST TO WEST
09:32:49 TOWARD WESTSHORE, INSTALL SIDEWALK AND DRIVEWAY ON THE NORTH
09:32:52 SIDE OF KENNEDY, INSTALL DRAINAGE STRUCTURES AT WESTSHORE,
09:32:57 LOIS, DALE MABRY HIGHWAY AND COMPLETE MILLING AND
09:33:00 RESURFACING OF INTERSECTION AND INSTALL SIGNING AND PAVEMENT
09:33:04 MARKINGS.
09:33:05 THE NEXT FEW SLIDES ARE PHOTOS OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS
09:33:08 TAKEN LAST MONTH.
09:33:09 THIS IS THE PHOTO OF THE CONTRACTOR EXCAVATING AND LEVELING
09:33:11 THE GROUND TO CONSTRUCT THE DRIVEWAY AND SIDEWALK.
09:33:14 THIS IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF KENNEDY WEST OF TRASK OUTSIDE
09:33:17 OF FRESH KITCHEN AND --
09:33:19 THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT IS A CONTRACTOR -- ON THE RIGHT, A
09:33:25 CONTRACT IS FORMING AND POURING THE SIDEWALK AND TIEING INTO
09:33:27 AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY.
09:33:28 THESE PHOTOS ARE PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL FOUNDATION AT HENDERSON
09:33:34 AND KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
09:33:36 THE CONTRACTOR IS CONNECTING THE FIBER THROUGH THE DRILLED
09:33:39 SHAFT.
09:33:39 I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE HERE AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO
09:33:43 CALL OR E-MAIL ME IF YOU HAVE ANY IN THE FUTURE OR IF YOU
09:33:45 WOULD LIKE ANY OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED.
09:33:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
09:33:49 I HAVE ONE.
09:33:54 THE BIKE AREAS ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD, ARE THEY GOING TO BE
09:34:02 SEPARATED BY ANY TYPE OF CONCRETE BARRIERS OR ARE THEY GOING
09:34:07 TO BE OPEN TO THE TRAFFIC, THE VEHICLE TRAFFIC THAT IS
09:34:12 PASSING THEM BY?
09:34:15 >> ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD, WE DO NOT HAVE DEDICATED BIKE
09:34:18 LANES, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE ABLE TO
09:34:22 INCREASE THE SIDEWALKS TO EIGHT FEET WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT'S
09:34:25 RIGHT-OF-WAY.
09:34:25 THEY'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RIDE ON THE SIDEWALKS, WHICH
09:34:31 WILL BE SEPARATED BY A CURB FROM THE ROADWAY.
09:34:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY.
09:34:37 I DIDN'T GET THAT.
09:34:38 THEY WILL BE RIDING ON THE SIDEWALKS.
09:34:40 >> CORRECT.
09:34:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY TYPE OF BIKE
09:34:43 LANE THERE?
09:34:45 >> CORRECT.
09:34:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:34:49 ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
09:34:50 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:34:54 >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU DON'T MIND, YOU GAVE ME ANOTHER
09:34:56 QUESTION.
09:34:57 BUT I WONDER WHAT VIK'S REACTION TO THAT IS SINCE HE IS A
09:35:00 CYCLIST.
09:35:02 THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, 10, 15, 20 YEARS AGO WHEN
09:35:07 LINDA SAUL-SENA WAS ON COUNCIL, SHE PUT TOGETHER AN OVERLAY
09:35:11 PACKAGE FOR BEAUTIFICATION OF KENNEDY WITH TREES AND
09:35:15 LANDSCAPING.
09:35:16 I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE SLIDES.
09:35:18 IS ANYTHING LIKE THAT BEING INCLUDED?
09:35:21 >> WE ARE NOT INCLUDING LANDSCAPING WITHIN THIS PROJECT.
09:35:24 WE DID, AS I MENTIONED, WE REDUCED THE DESIGN SPEED OF THE
09:35:29 ROAD FROM 45 MILES PER HOUR TO 40 MILES PER HOUR SO WE COULD
09:35:32 REDUCE THE LEFT-TURN LANE LENGTH AND INCREASE THE GREENSPACE
09:35:36 BETWEEN THE LEFT-TURN LANES.
09:35:39 IF THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO PARTNER WITH THE DEPARTMENT FOR
09:35:41 FUTURE LANDSCAPING PROJECT, THAT IS A POSSIBILITY.
09:35:48 >>VIK BHIDE: IF I MAY ADD TO THAT AND GOOD QUESTION
09:35:51 COUNCILMAN.
09:35:51 THE CURRENT LANDSCAPING THAT WE HAVE IS BEING PRESERVED, AND
09:35:55 THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
09:35:57 THERE ISN'T LIKE NEW LANDSCAPING BEING ADDED AND ON THE
09:36:02 BICYCLE LANE QUESTION, A NEW BIKE LANE OR A SEPARATED
09:36:08 FACILITY IS NOT INCLUDED AS PART OF THE KENNEDY BOULEVARD
09:36:13 PROJECT, PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT IS A TRANSIT AND RELATIVELY
09:36:18 HEAVILY UTILIZED CORRIDOR.
09:36:21 WE DO HAVE THE CASS STREET CYCLE TRACK JUST NORTH OF THERE
09:36:27 THAT'S PARALLEL TO IT.
09:36:28 THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME NEIGHBORHOODS, AT LEAST STARTING
09:36:31 FROM HOWARD GOING EAST.
09:36:33 BUT WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE SAFETY AND
09:36:37 WITH THIS PROJECT, THE CRITICAL PIECE WAS CONNECTING
09:36:40 NEIGHBORHOODS NORTH AND SOUTH OF KENNEDY WITH AS MANY
09:36:44 PEDESTRIAN OPPORTUNITIES AS WE COULD.
09:36:48 AND TO THAT END, THIS PROJECT --
09:36:51 >>BILL CARLSON: A FINAL COMMENT.
09:36:52 THANK YOU ALL, ESPECIALLY F.D.O.T. FOR FOCUSING ON SAFETY.
09:36:55 OBVIOUSLY, SAFETY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
09:36:57 THANK YOU.
09:36:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:36:59 >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL ADD, AS A CYCLIST, I DON'T LIKE
09:37:03 GENERALLY RIDING ON SUCH HEAVILY TRAVELED CORRIDORS IS JUST
09:37:07 SCARY EVEN WITH THAT.
09:37:08 SO WHEN YOU HAVE STREETS THAT ARE PARALLEL, THOSE ARE
09:37:13 GENERALLY BETTER USED.
09:37:14 THAT'S WHAT I RIDE BECAUSE I'M TERRIFIED OF KENNEDY AND
09:37:17 FLORIDA AND ALL THOSE PLACES.
09:37:20 BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS
09:37:24 BECAUSE THOSE ALSO DO HELP CYCLISTS.
09:37:28 SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
09:37:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:37:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:37:33 I KNOW IT IS A JOB THAT'S VERY TEDIOUS.
09:37:35 IT IS A HEAVILY TRAVELED TRAFFIC AREA AND I HAVE FAMILY
09:37:38 SOUTH OF KENNEDY AND I VISIT THERE AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK.
09:37:41 AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOUR JOB IS MOVING ALONG FAIRLY WELL
09:37:45 AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DO.
09:37:47 AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR PROGRESS.
09:37:49 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
09:37:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH FOR THIS REPORT.
09:37:53 WE WILL NOW BE GOING TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:38:00 IF THERE ARE ANY PERSONS IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
09:38:03 A PUBLIC COMMENT, THIS IS YOUR TIME.
09:38:06 IF YOU WOULD PLEASE LINE UP MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT FOR PUBLIC
09:38:14 COMMENT.
09:38:14 WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME.
09:38:27 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:38:29 MY NAME IS GETULIO GONZALEZ-MULATTIERI.
09:38:40 I'M A RESIDENT OF THE CITY.
09:38:42 I HAVE A COMMENT TO READ ON BEHALF OF LULAC, FLORIDA
09:38:43 DISTRICT 1.
09:38:43 IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE VOTED ON.
09:38:45 THE LEAGUE OF UNITED LATIN AMERICAN CITIZENS FLORIDA
09:38:47 DISTRICT ONE IS IN SUPPORT OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A TENANT
09:38:50 ADVOCACY OFFICE UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:38:53 TO FACILITATE THE PROMOTION OF TENANTS' RIGHTS, RENT
09:38:58 STABILIZATION MEASURES, THROUGH THE DECLARATION OF THE
09:39:01 HOUSING STATE OF EMERGENCY, A 120-DAY NOTICE OF RENT RATE
09:39:05 INCREASE AT OR ABOVE 5%.
09:39:07 THE CREATION OF A LANDLORD COMPLAINT REGISTRY, AND THE RIGHT
09:39:11 TO LEGAL COUNSEL FOR NEGATIVELY IMPACTED TENANTS FACING
09:39:15 EVICTION.
09:39:16 I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW IT'S HARD OUT THERE.
09:39:20 INFLATION IS AT 9.1%.
09:39:22 IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET BY RIGHT NOW.
09:39:24 IF PEOPLE ARE BEING EVICTED BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO WORRIED
09:39:28 ABOUT KEEPING, YOU KNOW, A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS, PUTTING
09:39:33 FOOD ON THE TABLE, THERE IS A DISPROPORTIONATE IMBALANCE OF
09:39:38 POWER THERE BETWEEN LANDLORD AND TENANT.
09:39:40 A TENANT CANNOT AFFORD TO RETAIN, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT CANNOT
09:39:47 RETAIN LEGAL COUNSEL IN A CIVIL SUIT.
09:39:49 A LANDLORD PROBABLY CAN.
09:39:51 AS YOU ALL KNOW, 47% OF THIS CITY ARE TENANTS.
09:39:55 IF PEOPLE ARE BEING EVICTED AND PUSHED OUT OF THE CITY,
09:39:58 GRANTED, LIKE, I GET IT, DEVELOPMENT IS GREAT.
09:40:01 IT'S BRINGING BUSINESS TO THE CITY.
09:40:03 THE CITY IS GROWING, THAT'S AWESOME.
09:40:06 BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT MAKES THE CITY UNIQUE IS THE
09:40:08 PEOPLE AND CULTURE.
09:40:10 PEOPLE ARE BEING PUSHED OUT.
09:40:11 THEY CAN'T LIVE HERE.
09:40:12 WHO IS GOING TO WORK?
09:40:13 MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, 40%, THAT 47% OF TENANTS, THE PEOPLE IN
09:40:19 THE CITY, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET IN THE CITY BECAUSE THE
09:40:24 PUBLIC TRANSIT IS AWFUL, RIGHT?
09:40:27 WE KNOW THAT.
09:40:28 I DON'T MEAN TO OFFEND ANYBODY BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF YOU
09:40:31 ALL ARE ON DIFFERENT BOARDS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY ON PUBLIC
09:40:35 TRANSIT BOARDS.
09:40:36 LIKE THE CITY HAS INADEQUATE PUBLIC TRANSIT.
09:40:39 PEOPLE ARE GETTING PUSHED OUT OF THE CITY.
09:40:40 THEY ARE BEING EVICTED.
09:40:42 THAT'S JUST A RECIPE FOR DISASTER.
09:40:45 I'M URGING YOU TO TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION.
09:40:47 PLEASE, PLEASE GIVE PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO LEGAL COUNSEL.
09:40:50 PLEASE CONSIDER RENT STABILIZATION AND PRESSURING OUR GREAT
09:40:54 MAYOR TO DECLARE A HOUSING STATE OF EMERGENCY.
09:40:57 THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
09:40:58 THANK YOU.
09:40:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:41:04 >> MENTESNOT.
09:41:07 WHEN THEY TELL YOU ABOUT GOVERNMENT, WHEN THEY TELL YOU
09:41:11 ABOUT HISTORY, WHEN THEY TELL YOU ABOUT WAS A TIME BACK IN
09:41:15 HISTORY THE PEOPLE HAD TO GO AND BEG THE KING OR BEG THE
09:41:20 QUEEN OR BEG THE ROMAN EMPERORS, CITY COUNCILS ALL OVER THIS
09:41:24 WORLD, SENATES ALL OVER THIS WORLD, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
09:41:30 ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES.
09:41:31 IT IS THE SAME THING TODAY IN 2022.
09:41:33 AND FOR US AFRICAN PEOPLE, IT'S EVEN WORSE.
09:41:37 PEOPLE HAVE TO COME DOWN HERE AND BEG YOU FOR RENT, FOR
09:41:40 LIVING, FOR DOING THIS, FOR HOUSING, FOR HOMELESSNESS RIGHT
09:41:44 OUTSIDE YOUR BUILDING.
09:41:45 THE WORST HOMELESSNESS YOU CAN SEE.
09:41:48 PEOPLE EATING OUT OF GARBAGE CANS. AN INSENSITIVE CITY
09:41:55 GOVERNMENT.
09:41:55 TOOK THE BENCHES OUT OF THE PARK SO THE HOMELESS PEOPLE
09:41:58 CAN'T STAY THERE.
09:41:59 CAN'T FEED THEM IN THE PARK.
09:42:01 ILLEGAL TO DO THIS AND ILLEGAL TO DO THAT.
09:42:03 AN ATTACK ON AFRICAN PEOPLE IN THE WORST WAY, ATTACK ON OUR
09:42:07 YOUTH.
09:42:07 A NOISE ORDINANCE THAT'S 25 -- A LAW NOW THAT'S 25 FEET,
09:42:13 MAKE IT 25 FEET FOR EVERYTHING.
09:42:15 NOT JUST 25 FEET FOR BLACK PEOPLE IN CARS WITH MUSIC.
09:42:19 MAKE IT 25 FEET FOR DOGS, FOR BIRDS, FOR STUPID CLOCKS
09:42:23 RINGING IN CITY HALL BUILDINGS.
09:42:25 MAKE IT 25 FEET FOR EVERYTHING.
09:42:26 THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
09:42:27 YOU ALL ATTACK AFRICAN PEOPLE IN THE WORST WAY.
09:42:30 AND THEN THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IF WE DON'T UNDERSTAND
09:42:34 CAPITALISM, IMPERIALISM, SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM, THEN WE'RE
09:42:39 LOST.
09:42:40 IF WE DON'T UNDERSTAND REPARATIONS AND WHAT WHITE PEOPLE OWE
09:42:43 US FOR 622 YEARS OF OPPRESSION AND SLAVERY AND FREE LABOR
09:42:48 AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLE'S LAND AND WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO
09:42:51 STOP PEOPLE COMING IN FROM MEXICO, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN
09:42:54 MIGRATING BACK AND FORTH TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS,
09:42:57 STOPPING THEM IN THEIR OWN LAND WHEN TALKING ABOUT WHITE
09:43:01 MANIFEST DESTINY, THEN WE'RE LOST.
09:43:03 FACT OF THE MATTER, A LOT OF THE CITY WORKERS ARE OFF THE
09:43:07 CHAIN BECAUSE IF YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH, THEN THEY HAVE
09:43:10 SOMETHING AGAINST YOU.
09:43:11 I'M DOWN HERE TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO DOING BUSINESS,
09:43:17 STANDING ON THE SIDEWALK AND THE PERSON RUNS OUTSIDE, HE WAS
09:43:21 TRANSPORTED DOWN HERE, THE WORST CASE OF HATRED AND RACIAL
09:43:26 PROFILING, SHE SAID, OH, HURRY AND GET IN THE CAR.
09:43:30 IT'S THE LADY WITH THE BUMPS IN HER FACE.
09:43:32 LOOKS LIKE SHE HAS A FACIAL DISEASE THAT'S WORKING RIGHT IN
09:43:36 THIS BUILDING.
09:43:37 DO YOU NEED SECURITY TO ESCORT YOU OUTSIDE BECAUSE TONY
09:43:40 DANIEL IS STANDING ON THE SIDEWALK AND WE DON'T KNOW.
09:43:43 HE THINK HE'S VIOLENT.
09:43:44 WE DON'T KNOW IF HE'S GOING TO ATTACK YOU OR NOT.
09:43:47 THE WORST FORM OF RACIAL PROFILING IT IS.
09:43:53 THE WORST FORM OF PERSONAL PROFILING IT IS.
09:43:56 CITY EMPLOYEES.
09:43:57 CITY POLICE OFFICERS OFF THE CHAIN.
09:44:00 CITY WORKERS OFF THE CHAIN.
09:44:02 ON TAXPAYERS' TIME.
09:44:04 THAT'S WHY PEOPLE HAVE TO KEEP COMING DOWN HERE BEGGING
09:44:07 BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE INSENSITIVE TO THE PEOPLE'S NEEDS.
09:44:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:44:17 >> MY NAME IS CARRIE MUELLER.
09:44:19 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN FRONT OF CITY
09:44:20 COUNCIL TODAY AND SPEAK.
09:44:22 I'M SPEAKING IN REGARDS TO THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE'RE
09:44:25 EXPERIENCING.
09:44:25 I WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON
09:44:28 THIS IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY.
09:44:31 WE CANNOT BE DIVIDED AND WE CANNOT SCAPEGOAT THE LANDLORDS
09:44:35 AND TRY TO PUT ALL THE PRESSURE TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM ON
09:44:38 THEM.
09:44:39 WE KNOW THAT THIS PROBLEM WAS INITIATED BY ALL THE EQUITY
09:44:45 THAT FLOODED THE MARKET.
09:44:46 A LOT OF EQUITY FIRMS AIDED WITH PP LOANS AND THEN LOWER
09:44:51 INTEREST RATES WHICH IN ADDITION TO THE OFFICE VACANCIES DUE
09:44:55 TO COVID PROPELLED A LOT OF FUNDING INTO RESIDENTIAL REAL
09:44:59 ESTATE, AND THAT HAS REALLY AFFECTED THE SUPPLY FOR PURCHASE
09:45:03 AND RENTALS BY RESIDENTS.
09:45:05 IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE EXPERIENCE AN INCREASE IN PROPERTY
09:45:11 INSURANCE RATES AND LACK OF COVERAGE, AND WE'RE GOING TO
09:45:16 EXPERIENCE INCREASED PROPERTY TAXES DUE TO THE HIGHER SALES
09:45:20 PRICES THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED.
09:45:21 SO WE'RE NOT JUST IN THE MIDDLE OF A CRISIS.
09:45:25 WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ONGOING CRISIS THAT COULD
09:45:27 POTENTIALLY GET WORSE.
09:45:28 WE NEED TO WORK ON THIS AS A UNITED FRONT BETWEEN THE
09:45:32 LANDLORDS, PROPERTY MANAGERS, RENTERS, HOMEOWNERS AND THE
09:45:35 LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
09:45:36 WE CAN NO LONGER BLAME AND SHAME AND PUT ALL THE BURDEN ON
09:45:40 SMALL LANDLORDS.
09:45:41 SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT THEY ARE RAISING, I'M GOING TO
09:45:44 MAKE AN ANALOGY.
09:45:46 I DON'T THINK IT IS THE BEST ANALOGY, BUT LET'S JUST TALK
09:45:48 ABOUT LEASED VEHICLES.
09:45:50 LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT A COMPANY THAT LEASES VEHICLES TO
09:45:54 PEOPLE WITH POOR CREDIT.
09:45:55 IF WE'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH LEGAL COUNSEL FOR THE PURCHASERS
09:45:59 OF THE VEHICLES AS WELL AS THE REGISTRY OF THE COMPANIES
09:46:03 THAT LEASE THESE VEHICLES AND YOU HAVE RESIDENTS THAT
09:46:06 POTENTIALLY DON'T HAVE GOOD CREDIT AND THEY HAVE
09:46:09 REPOSSESSIONS OF VEHICLES AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE A
09:46:13 LIST OF THE COMPANIES THAT HAVE TO REPOSSESS THESE VEHICLES
09:46:17 AND HAVE TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION, THOSE COMPANIES ARE NO LONGER
09:46:20 GOING TO RENT TO RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BAD CREDIT AND EVICTION
09:46:26 HISTORY.
09:46:27 A LOT OF THESE ORDINANCES THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING ARE
09:46:29 ACTUALLY GOING TO IMPACT LOW-INCOME RENTERS IN A BAD WAY
09:46:34 BECAUSE THE LANDLORDS WILL NO LONGER RENT TO PEOPLE WITH
09:46:37 POOR CREDIT OR PEOPLE WITH EVICTION HISTORY.
09:46:39 WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE LOW-INCOME RENTERS AND WE
09:46:43 NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE LOW-INCOME PROVIDERS OF
09:46:46 HOUSING BY LANDLORDS, NOT REDUCE OUR SUPPLY FURTHER.
09:46:50 WE WANT TO BEGIN TO BUILD PUBLIC HOUSING, WE NEED TO DIVERT
09:46:55 SOME OF THE TAX FUNDS THAT ARE BEING RAISED BY ALL THE
09:46:58 ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAXES.
09:47:00 WE NEED TO DIVERT THAT INTO BUILDING ADDITIONAL PUBLIC
09:47:03 HOUSING.
09:47:03 AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WORK ON AS A
09:47:06 COMMUNITY IN A PARTICIPATORY WAY WITH PEOPLE WORKING IN
09:47:11 CONSTRUCTION CAPACITY TO BUILD THIS PUBLIC HOUSING BECAUSE
09:47:13 IT'S MUCH NEEDED.
09:47:14 THANK YOU.
09:47:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:47:21 >> HI.
09:47:22 CRAIG BIRCHFIELD, I'M A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:47:25 I LIVE IN WESTCHASE.
09:47:28 I'M HERE WITH THE TAMPA TENANTS UNION, THE PARTY OF
09:47:30 SOCIALISM AND LIBERATION AND IN SOLIDARITY WITH OTHER
09:47:33 COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE TODAY TALKING ABOUT THE
09:47:35 HOUSING CRISIS.
09:47:35 I'M HERE TO ADD MY SUPPORT TO DEMANDS MY FELLOW COMMUNITY
09:47:39 MEMBERS HAVE MADE, THAT THE CITY TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS:
09:47:42 CREATE A LANDLORD COMPLAINT AND ACCOUNTABILITY REGISTRY.
09:47:46 FOLLOW IN THE STEPS OF OTHER U.S. CITIES BY IMPLEMENTING A
09:47:48 TENANTS RIGHT TO COUNSEL.
09:47:50 PROVIDE A NON-FAITH-BASED, HOUSING FIRST PROGRAM FOR OUR
09:47:55 HOUSELESS NEIGHBORS.
09:47:56 DECLARE A HOUSING STATE OF EMERGENCY, AND MOST CRITICALLY
09:48:02 RENT CONTROL.
09:48:04 WE THE WORKING CLASS HAD ENOUGH AND HEARD ENOUGH OF THE RISK
09:48:07 TO THE CITY, LEGAL RISK BECAUSE OF STATE'S PREEMPTION OF
09:48:10 RENT CONTROL.
09:48:11 HOUSING STATE OF EMERGENCY WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE IN IS MORE
09:48:13 THAN ENOUGH COVERAGE TO MAKE THAT MOVE.
09:48:15 WHAT'S LACKING IS POLITICAL COURAGE AND WILL.
09:48:18 OUR VERY OWN MAYOR WHO CONTINUALLY AND TRANSPARENTLY SHOWS
09:48:22 HER ALLEGIANCE TO PROFIT OVER PEOPLE HAS GONE ON RECORD
09:48:26 SAYING RENT CONTROL WOULD KILL DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.
09:48:29 WITH THIS ADMISSION, SHE TELLS US WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW.
09:48:32 THE REASON RENT CONTROL HAS NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED, A CAPITAL
09:48:35 SYSTEM BUILT ON PROFIT AT ALL COST WILL NEVER DELIVER THE
09:48:38 RIGHTS AND HUMANITY EACH OF US DESERVE.
09:48:40 WHILE WE HAVE PLENTY OF EVIDENCE SHOWING DEVELOPMENT DOES
09:48:43 NOT DISAPPEAR AS A RESULT OF RENT CONTROL, EVEN IF IT WERE
09:48:46 TO DISAPPEAR, LET DEVELOPMENT TAKE THAT BLOW SO WE CAN KEEP
09:48:50 FAMILIES IN THEIR HOMES.
09:48:51 THIS SHOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR ALL OF YOU.
09:48:53 HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHT.
09:48:54 EVICTION IS VIOLENCE.
09:48:55 I URGE THE COUNCIL TO STRONGLY CONSIDER WHAT FURTHER --
09:48:59 [AUDIO DROP]
09:49:25 >> HI.
09:49:28 ROBERT EWING.
09:49:30 ORGANIZER WITH THE TAMPA TENANTS UNION, AND I'VE SEEN ALL
09:49:33 KINDS OF PEOPLE FACE HUGE RENT INCREASES, HUNDREDS OF
09:49:38 DOLLARS, AND ALL KINDS OF UNSAFE LIVING CONDITIONS AS A
09:49:42 RESULT OF JUST LANDLORDS NOT DOING THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO
09:49:48 MAINTAIN SAFE LIVING AND AFFORDABLE RENT FOR THEIR TENANTS.
09:49:53 SINCE THE START OF THE PANDEMIC, OVER 30,000 EVICTIONS HAVE
09:49:57 BEEN FILED IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA, WHICH ALREADY THAT NUMBER
09:50:02 ALONE IS UNACCEPTABLE.
09:50:03 BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE NUMEROUS LANDLORDS
09:50:07 WHO TELL THEIR TENANTS TO LEAVE WITHOUT ACTUALLY FILING AN
09:50:10 EVICTION, HOPING THAT THEIR TENANTS WILL JUST SELF-EVICT.
09:50:15 ALL ACROSS THE CITY, TENANTS ARE FACING HUGE INCREASES IN
09:50:19 RENT, AND FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MEANS NOT BEING ABLE TO
09:50:24 AFFORD THINGS LIKE FOOD AND MEDICINE THAT THEY NEED AND
09:50:28 OTHER THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
09:50:31 SO IT'S WELL PAST TIME FOR THE CITY TO PASS A HOUSING STATE
09:50:36 OF EMERGENCY TO ALLOW THE PEOPLE TO VOTE ON RENT CONTROL,
09:50:40 WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED.
09:50:43 WE ALSO NEED THE RIGHT TO COUNSEL.
09:50:46 WE NEED AN OFFICE OF TENANT ADVOCACY AND A LANDLORD REGISTRY
09:50:50 SO WE CAN HOLD LANDLORDS ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THEY VIOLATE THE
09:50:54 LAW OR WHEN THEY INCREASE RENT TOO HIGH OR KEEP PEOPLE IN
09:50:57 UNSAFE LIVING CONDITIONS BECAUSE HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHT,
09:51:02 AND THAT RIGHT SHOULD BE GUARANTEED TO THE PEOPLE OF OUR
09:51:04 CITY.
09:51:05 THANK YOU.
09:51:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:51:14 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:51:15 GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCILMEN, MR. GUDES, MR. VIERA, I'M
09:51:21 FAMILIAR WITH YOU GUYS.
09:51:21 THE REST OF YOU GUYS I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH, BUT I WILL VERY
09:51:24 SOON GET FAMILIAR WITH YOU GUYS.
09:51:26 MY NAME IS ED HOLLY.
09:51:28 I'M THE FOUNDER OF THE RAY PROGRAM.
09:51:32 REHABILITATING AND ASSISTING AMERICAN VETERANS EVERY DAY.
09:51:35 I'M A HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY RESIDENT FOR 46 YEARS.
09:51:38 I'M A RESIDENT OF THE CAREGIVER FOR MY DAD AT TIMBERFALLS
09:51:42 APARTMENT.
09:51:43 YOU-ALL HAVE THAT ON YOUR-ALL AGENDA TODAY.
09:51:45 I'M COMING HERE TO PARTNER WITH MR. VIERA AND ANYBODY ELSE
09:51:49 WITHIN THE CITY THAT WANT TO HELP THESE RESIDENTS.
09:51:52 I'M A VICTIM OF THAT.
09:51:54 I'M A SELF-EMPLOYED PERSON.
09:51:57 I JUST GOT A LETTER ON MY DOOR FOR $6500.
09:52:01 $4400 OF MY HARD-EARNED MONEY WAS STOLEN FROM ME BY ANOTHER
09:52:06 APARTMENT COMPLEX.
09:52:07 MANAGEMENT TEAM.
09:52:08 300 APARTMENTS.
09:52:10 180 OCCUPIED AND EVERYBODY GOT EVICTION NOTICE AND WE OWE
09:52:13 THE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX.
09:52:15 MR. VIERA, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT THERE AND
09:52:17 SPEAKING UP ON OUR BEHALF EVERY TIME I DON'T PICK UP THE
09:52:21 PHONE YOU AND -- MADE A PRIORITY TO COME OUT THERE TO
09:52:25 TIMBERFALLS.
09:52:26 MY DADDY DON'T DESERVE THAT.
09:52:28 I CAN GO ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
09:52:30 MY DADDY IS 67 YEARS OLD WITH DEMENTIA.
09:52:33 YOU SAW THAT APARTMENT.
09:52:35 IT'S MILDEW.
09:52:37 BEEN THERE TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
09:52:39 I COME TO YOUR CRA AND CAC MEETINGS IN EAST TAMPA EVERY TIME
09:52:44 ASKING FOR HELP FOR THE COMMUNITY.
09:52:45 I AIN'T HERE TO BASH NOBODY.
09:52:47 I'M HERE TO ASK YOU ALL TO HELP ME HELP OUR COMMUNITY.
09:52:50 I DON'T WANT NOTHING FROM YOU ALL BUT HELP.
09:52:53 THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL ARE HERE TO DO, PROTECT US.
09:52:55 YOU ALL GET ALL THESE ASSIGNMENTS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:52:59 YOU-ALL GOT CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENT THAT WANT TO HELP.
09:53:02 1648 HOMELESS PEOPLE EVERY DAY.
09:53:05 EVERY SINGLE DAY, ME OR MY DADDY AIN'T GOING TO BE ONE OF
09:53:09 THEM.
09:53:10 WE NOT.
09:53:11 AND I LOOK EACH ONE OF YOU IN THE EYE.
09:53:13 YOU ALL GOT CRIME.
09:53:15 YOU COULD CHOOSE A MILLION THINGS TO DO, BUT I COME TO YOU
09:53:18 ALL FIRST.
09:53:19 EACH ONE OF YOU ALL DONE BEEN ON THE POLICE FORCE AND EACH
09:53:22 ONE OF YOU ALL LIVE IN THE CITY.
09:53:23 WOULD YOU WANT YOUR PARENT TO LIVE THAT WAY?
09:53:26 IF YOU CAME AND ASKED YOUR CITY COUNCILMEN FOR HELP.
09:53:31 ARE YOU ALL GOING TO HELP ME?
09:53:33 YOU ALL GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?
09:53:35 BECAUSE ALL THIS TALKING, WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR TWO YEARS AND
09:53:39 AIN'T NOTHING HAPPENED YET.
09:53:40 MY DADDY COULD BE DEAD TOMORROW.
09:53:42 WHAT WE GOING TO DO?
09:53:44 WHAT WE ALL GOING TO DO?
09:53:46 YOU ALL GOT IT ON THE AGENDA.
09:53:50 I'M HOLDING YOU ACCOUNTABLE TO IT.
09:53:53 THE NEW PEOPLE HERE AND SO YOU ALL.
09:53:55 DO SOMETHING.
09:53:56 THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING YOU TO DO.
09:53:58 THE RAY PROGRAM IS HERE TO HELP AND ALL YOU ALL.
09:54:01 THANK YOU.
09:54:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:54:02 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
09:54:04 THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP TIMBERFALLS.
09:54:07 JUST FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR COUNCIL, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO,
09:54:11 MANY, IF NOT MOST OF THE RESIDENTS, ACCORDING TO WHAT I'VE
09:54:14 SEEN AT TIMBERFALLS, WHICH IS OFF 113th STREET, AND WE
09:54:18 TALKED A NUMBER OF TIMES, GOT NOTICES STATING THAT THEY OWED
09:54:23 IN BACK FEES, BACK DEBTS, ET CETERA, BETWEEN I'VE SEEN
09:54:27 BETWEEN 900 UP TO 6, 7 THOUSAND DOLLARS.
09:54:31 ANOTHER PERSON TOLD ME THEY GOT A NOTICE NOR $12,000 I
09:54:34 BELIEVE IT WAS.
09:54:35 I TALKED TO MANAGEMENT ON THAT.
09:54:37 THEY HAD AGREED TO REVOKE I BELIEVE IT WAS FOR THOSE ON
09:54:40 SECTION 8.
09:54:41 AND THEN AGREED TO GO FORWARD AND TALK TO FOLKS WHO ARE NOT
09:54:44 IN SECTION 8.
09:54:45 BUT THERE IS A HELL OF A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON THAT AND THAT
09:54:50 REALLY DISTURBED ME A GREAT DEAL WHAT I SAW.
09:54:52 I WENT OUT THERE AGAIN YESTERDAY.
09:54:54 I WENT OUT THERE I THINK IT WAS ON MONDAY AGAIN.
09:54:57 AND I'M GOING TO BE BRINGING THAT UP AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
09:54:59 THE CITY LOOK AT IT AND WE'RE TALKING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
09:55:02 I PROMISE YOU, SIR, WE ARE ON THAT.
09:55:04 I GIVE YOU MY WORD.
09:55:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:55:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, ARE THEY SAYING WHY THEY ARE
09:55:10 CHARGING THESE PEOPLE THESE FEES?
09:55:11 IT'S ILLEGAL, KIND OF CRIMINAL HERE.
09:55:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:55:16 SO THE ALLEGATION IS THAT THERE ARE -- EVERYTHING FROM
09:55:22 BACK-DUE RENT TO LATE PAYMENTS THAT INCURRED FEES,
09:55:28 ET CETERA.
09:55:28 IT'S KIND OF VAGUE RIGHT NOW.
09:55:30 BUT AGAIN, TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS PAYING 900, A THOUSAND
09:55:33 DOLLARS A MONTH IN RENT, AND THEY ARE ON DISABILITY.
09:55:37 THEY ARE A SENIOR CITIZEN.
09:55:38 THEY ARE WORKING MINIMUM WAGE, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE AND SAY
09:55:41 THEY OWE SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS, AGAIN, JUST A
09:55:45 LOT TO BELIEVE.
09:55:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, SIR,
09:55:49 SOUNDS LIKE TO ME DEVELOPMENT IS GOING UP IN THE UNIVERSITY
09:55:53 AREA.
09:55:53 SOMEBODY PROBABLY BOUGHT THE COMPLEX NOW. NOW WE PUSH ALL
09:55:59 THE POOR PEOPLE OUT FOR THE COMPLEX, COLLEGE, BECAUSE THEY
09:56:02 ARE GETTING READY TO DO THE NEW BUILDING AT THE OLD CLARION
09:56:06 FOR STUDENT HOUSING WHICH IS RIGHT BEHIND TIMBERFALLS
09:56:09 APARTMENT.
09:56:10 I USED TO LIVE THERE WHEN I WAS A YOUNG POLICE OFFICER BACK
09:56:13 IN THE '90s.
09:56:14 I KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AND SOUNDS LIKE IT'S CRIMINAL WHAT
09:56:17 THEY ARE DOING TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE ELDERLY.
09:56:18 I HOPE YOU MAKE A MOTION ABOUT THAT.
09:56:20 IT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED.
09:56:22 >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY.
09:56:23 A LOT OF SCRUTINY NEEDS TO BE APPLIED TO IT BECAUSE IT IS
09:56:28 OUTRAGEOUS.
09:56:28 IT REALLY, REALLY IS OUTRAGEOUS, ESPECIALLY WHEN A LOT OF
09:56:31 FOLKS GOT NOTICES THAT THEN GET, BY WHAT I'M TOLD, TAKEN
09:56:34 BACK WITHOUT DOING THE HOMEWORK ON WHO OWES WHAT.
09:56:38 SCARE PEOPLE ON DISABILITY WHO ARE SENIORS WHO ARE WORKING
09:56:41 FOR MINIMUM WAGE, AGAIN, I'M A DIPLOMATIC PERSON, WHEN I SAY
09:56:46 IT LEAVES A LOT TO BE DESIRED, IT LEAVES A HELL OF A LOT TO
09:56:50 BE DESIRED.
09:56:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:56:53 >>BILL CARLSON: WE STILL GOT A LONG LINE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE
09:56:56 GOING TO SPEAK.
09:56:57 MANY OF YOU HAVE SPOKEN HERE BEFORE.
09:56:59 I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY AND THE CHAIR CAN REMIND US.
09:57:02 IT'S COUNCIL'S POLICY FOR A LONG TIME THAT WE TYPICALLY DO
09:57:05 NOT RESPOND TO QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS AT PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:57:09 IT IS A TIME FOR YOU ALL TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT AND THEN WE
09:57:11 CAN EITHER HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU PRIVATELY OR DURING
09:57:15 THE TIME THAT WE WOULD BE DISCUSSING THESE SESSIONS.
09:57:17 IF WE'RE NOT RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR IF ALL OF
09:57:20 US AREN'T RESPONDING, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT INTERESTED
09:57:23 IN IT.
09:57:24 IT JUST MEANS WE'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE
09:57:26 COUNCIL.
09:57:27 TYPICALLY YOU'LL SEE OUR RESPONSE IN PUTTING THINGS ON THE
09:57:30 AGENDA AND HAVING MORE ROBUST DISCUSSIONS THEN.
09:57:32 THANK YOU.
09:57:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR ARTICULATING MY POINT SO WELL,
09:57:35 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:57:36 COUNCILMAN VIERA, HAVE YOU BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE DEPARTMENT
09:57:40 OF PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS REGULATION?
09:57:45 >>LUIS VIERA: I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE MANAGEMENT.
09:57:46 THIS ISSUE JUST CAME UP ON MONDAY.
09:57:49 WITH TIMBERFALLS WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LOOKING AT NUMEROUS
09:57:53 OTHER ENTITIES.
09:57:54 IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DEVELOPED.
09:57:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THAT
09:58:01 DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT LIVES IN OUR CITY.
09:58:03 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S BRING IT ON.
09:58:06 THERE IS A LOT OF CLARITY NEEDED ON THIS SITUATION,
09:58:08 ET CETERA.
09:58:09 LIKE I SAID, IT'S EXTREMELY DISTURBING.
09:58:12 I MET WITH MANAGEMENT YESTERDAY.
09:58:13 I MET WITH THEM ON MONDAY, AND THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE ON IT.
09:58:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHEN I MAKE THIS STATEMENT TO THE AUDIENCE
09:58:21 AND TO THE CAMERA, WE ARE NOT SHRUGGING ANY DUTIES THAT WE
09:58:28 HAVE AS COUNCIL.
09:58:31 THERE ARE CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH FOR
09:58:35 OUR VOICES, FOR YOUR VOICES TO BE HEARD.
09:58:38 AND WHEN WE HAVE AN APARTMENT THAT SIZE, STATE OF FLORIDA IS
09:58:46 RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE.
09:58:47 AND BELIEVE ME, THIS COUNCIL WILL SHOUT LOUD ENOUGH TO THE
09:58:50 STATE OF FLORIDA.
09:58:52 IT'S ABOUT, EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE, DARN TIME THAT THE STATE
09:58:58 STARTS HEARING WHAT OUR CITIZENS ARE SAYING.
09:59:00 AGAIN, TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S POINT, LET'S GET BACK TO
09:59:05 PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:59:07 >> HOW IS EVERYONE TODAY?
09:59:08 MY NAME IS LOW SHUM.
09:59:11 NICE TO MEET ALL OF YOU.
09:59:13 MY FIRST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
09:59:16 I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS JUST TO INVOKE THOUGHT SINCE
09:59:20 THIS IS MY FIRST TIME AND I'M NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH HOW
09:59:23 EVERYTHING WORKS.
09:59:24 I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU INCREASE THE
09:59:28 PRICES, IT INCREASES THE HOMELESSNESS.
09:59:32 IT INCREASES THE CRIME IN THE CITY, WHICH INCREASES THE
09:59:35 CHANCE OF OFFICERS GETTING INJURED AND THE PEOPLE ALSO.
09:59:39 I NOTICED THAT A LOT OF THE MONEY WAS BEING ALLOCATED FROM
09:59:43 THE TAXES TO THE PUBLIC DEFENSE, THE POLICE AND THAT JUST
09:59:50 ISN'T CORRECT.
09:59:51 IT SHOULD BE GOING TO THE PEOPLE TO PREVENT THAT FROM BEING
09:59:54 THE CASE.
09:59:55 SHOULD BE GOING TO THE PEOPLE TO HELP THEM FIND MORE REST IN
09:59:59 THE CITY AND TO FIND MORE PEACE.
10:00:00 IF THE DEVELOPMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT, I THINK THAT IT WOULD
10:00:05 BE MORE IMPORTANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE FIRST.
10:00:07 THE PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO END UP MOVING OUT AND FIND NEW
10:00:11 PLACES TO LIVE AND NEW PEOPLE FROM OTHER STATES WILL BE
10:00:13 MOVING DOWN.
10:00:14 I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S THE PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE
10:00:18 THAT'S THE ONLY THING FEASIBLE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ALREADY
10:00:20 HERE CAN'T AFFORD IT, THEY'LL HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO BUT
10:00:24 SOMEWHERE ELSE.
10:00:24 AND A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE COMING IN THAT CAN
10:00:26 AFFORD THESE PRICES ARE TRUST FUND CHILDREN WHO ARE GOING TO
10:00:30 BE LIVING ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES.
10:00:32 MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS LOOKING FOR, MORE OF
10:00:34 A RICH UPPER CLASS TYPE OF PEOPLE TO INCREASE THE TOURIST
10:00:40 ATTRACTION OR WHATEVER YOU GUYS ARE DOING DOWN HERE.
10:00:43 BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET HURT IN THE MEANTIME.
10:00:45 AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SUFFER.
10:00:47 A LOT OF CHILDREN ARE GOING TO SUFFER.
10:00:49 A LOT OF SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO SUFFER.
10:00:51 EVERYBODY IS GOING TO SUFFER, EXCEPT THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD
10:00:53 NOT TO.
10:00:54 THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY TODAY.
10:00:56 THANK YOU.
10:00:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:01:04 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:01:06 MY NAME IS SHERYL FADOUS.
10:01:10 I AM A TENANT AT TIMBERFALLS COMPLEX.
10:01:13 I'VE BEEN A TENANT THERE SINCE FEBRUARY OF 2019.
10:01:19 EVERY FEBRUARY, OF COURSE, I GO UP TO RENEW MY LEASE, AND
10:01:23 THIS PARTICULAR TIME, FEBRUARY OF 2021, I APPROACHED THE
10:01:31 OFFICE TO RENEW MY LEASE, AND I WAS TOLD BY MANAGEMENT,
10:01:38 DeJUAN BERTH AT THE TIME, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO RENEW
10:01:42 YOUR LEASE RIGHT NOW, MS. FADOUS, BECAUSE I JUST GOT A
10:01:47 PAYMENT FROM OUR FLORIDA, AND YOUR RENT IS PAID FROM
10:01:52 FEBRUARY, BEGINNING FEBRUARY, UNTIL JULY OF 2022.
10:01:58 AT THAT TIME, MS. FADOUS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO RENEW YOUR LEASE.
10:02:03 IT DIDN'T SOUND RIGHT, BUT I CAN'T GO INTO THE OFFICE AND
10:02:06 RENEW IT MYSELF.
10:02:08 I WENT TWO WEEKS BEGGING THIS MAN, PLEASE RENEW MY LEASE.
10:02:13 I SAID I WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR OUR FLORIDA
10:02:18 WITHOUT THE LEASE AND I NEED THE ASSISTANCE.
10:02:20 AND HE SAID, WELL, WHAT YOU WILL DO IS SUBMIT YOUR OLD LEASE
10:02:24 TO OUR FLORIDA AND WHEN THEY CALL ME, I WILL DISCUSS WITH
10:02:29 THEM WHY I'M NOT RENEWING YOUR LEASE.
10:02:33 HE SAID DON'T WORRY ABOUT YOUR RENT AT THIS TIME.
10:02:35 YOU HAVE A CREDIT.
10:02:38 IT WAS IN FEBRUARY, LIKE I SAID.
10:02:41 WHEN THE CHECKS FROM OUR FLORIDA CAME.
10:02:43 THEY ARE MADE OUT TO TIMBERFALLS.
10:02:46 SO YOU WILL HAVE TO TAKE THEM UP TO THE OFFICE AND LET THEM
10:02:49 APPLY IT TO YOUR RENT.
10:02:51 HE AGREED TO RECEIVE THIS PAYMENT, AND THIS JULY 1st, I
10:02:57 KNEW THAT WAS THE LAST MONTH FOR MY RENT TO HAVE BEEN PAID.
10:03:01 AND I GO UP TO THE OFFICE TO TELL HER, MAY I PLEASE NOW
10:03:05 RENEW MY LEASE?
10:03:07 SHE SAID, NO, MA'AM, YOU OWE -- YOU HAVE RENT IN ARREARS.
10:03:12 AND I'M SAYING TO HER, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
10:03:15 OUR FLORIDA PAID SIX MONTHS OF RENT FOR ME.
10:03:19 SHE SAID, YES, BUT THE REASON YOU OWE IS BECAUSE ALTHOUGH
10:03:23 THEY PAID YOUR MONTHLY AMOUNT, WE, MR. BURRS PLACED YOU ON A
10:03:31 MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASE.
10:03:33 AT THAT TIME, ADDING $300 ADDITIONAL TO EVERY MONTH.
10:03:41 SO NOW I AM $1900 IN ARREARS.
10:03:45 ON THE 5th I GAVE THEM $1300 JUST BECAUSE SHE SAID I OWED.
10:03:52 AFTER GIVING HER $1300 ON THE 5th, SHE PUT A $1900
10:03:56 EVICTION NOTICE ON MY DOOR THE VERY NEXT DAY.
10:03:59 SHE SAID THAT WHATEVER HAPPENED BEFORE SHE GOT THERE, IT'S
10:04:06 NOT HER FAULT AND THAT I WILL BE EVICTED FROM MY PLACE.
10:04:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:04:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LOOK INTO THAT.
10:04:21 IT'S CRIMINAL.
10:04:31 >> HI.
10:04:33 MY NAME IS SIMON.
10:04:36 I'M JUST ALSO STANDING HERE IN SUPPORT TO TALK ABOUT
10:04:41 ENCOURAGING THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST THE
10:04:44 HOUSING CRISIS.
10:04:45 OF COURSE, I SUPPORT, LIKE, RECENT DEVELOPMENTS TO SUPPORT
10:04:50 TENANTS' RIGHTS HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:04:52 SUPPORT STUFF LIKE THE TAMPA HOUSING HOTLINE, USEFUL
10:04:59 RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN STAY IN THEIR HOMES.
10:05:02 I ALSO SUPPORT OTHER MEASURES THAT PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT UP
10:05:05 HERE TODAY OF A NEW HOMELESS SHELTER.
10:05:11 OF COURSE, THERE IS ONE MORE I WANTED TO SUGGEST, DISCUSSING
10:05:17 THE ANNUAL BUDGET COMES UP THIS FALL, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO
10:05:21 CONSIDER PUTTING MORE MONEY TOWARDS HOUSING.
10:05:23 THE $4 MILLION FROM THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS HAS BEEN VERY
10:05:28 GOOD.
10:05:28 VERY HELPFUL.
10:05:30 DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT.
10:05:31 BUT I THINK THIS SHOULD REALLY BE INCORPORATED INTO THE
10:05:34 BUDGET FOR THE NEXT FISCAL BECAUSE THIS CRISIS ISN'T GOING
10:05:38 AWAY.
10:05:39 AS YOU CAN SEE BY PEOPLE CONTINUING TO SHOW OUT MONTH AFTER
10:05:43 MONTH AND JUST REALLY ENCOURAGING YOU ALL TO PUT YOUR MONEY
10:05:49 WHERE YOUR WORDS ARE AND REALLY TRY TO MAKE SURE THIS
10:05:52 COMMUNITY IS SUPPORTED AND THAT INDIVIDUALS ARE GETTING THE
10:05:57 SUPPORT THEY NEED, WHETHER IT'S UTILITY BILLS, CUTTING RENT
10:06:03 INCREASES OR APPLICATION FEES, MAKING SURE PEOPLE CAN STAY
10:06:06 IN THEIR HOMES AND AREN'T LOSING THEM.
10:06:09 THANK YOU.
10:06:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:06:16 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
10:06:17 MY NAME IS LINDA WIGGINS-CHAVIS.
10:06:21 I AM AN ORGANIZER FROM FAITH IN FLORIDA.
10:06:23 I HAVE PREVIOUSLY CALLED EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR OFFICES.
10:06:30 I HAVE SUBMITTED LETTERS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR
10:06:35 OFFICES.
10:06:36 I HAVE BEEN HERE, AND I HAVE SPOKEN PREVIOUSLY, AND I AM
10:06:40 HERE AGAIN TO SAY THE SAME THINGS THAT WE ALL KEEP SAYING.
10:06:47 THE HOUSING CRISIS IS AT A POINT WHERE IT IS BECOMING
10:06:50 CATASTROPHIC.
10:06:52 IT IS NO LONGER A CRISIS.
10:06:55 AND IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT AFFORDABLE RENT.
10:06:58 IT IS ABOUT WIDESPREAD GENTRIFICATION BY DEVELOPERS.
10:07:02 IT IS ABOUT SKYROCKETING RENT, SKYROCKETING TAXES,
10:07:06 SKYROCKETING MORTGAGES, SECURITY DEPOSITS, AND APPLICATION
10:07:11 FEES THAT PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD.
10:07:13 IT IS ABOUT SLUMLORDS EVICTING PEOPLE AS BACKLASH FOR THEM
10:07:20 SPEAKING UP.
10:07:23 I'VE DONE A PRESS CONFERENCE AT ANOTHER, I THINK IT WAS
10:07:27 SILVER OAKS APARTMENT COMPLEX.
10:07:30 THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO SAID THAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH SO
10:07:34 MUCH BLACK MOLD, RATS AND ROACHES, ONE WOMAN SAID THAT SHE
10:07:40 WOKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO FIND A RAT BITING AT
10:07:46 HER BABY'S NOSE AND MOUTH IN THE CRIB WITH THE BABY.
10:07:51 THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH.
10:07:53 THESE ARE THE STORIES THAT WE HEAR, THE STORIES THAT AREN'T
10:07:58 ALWAYS BEING TOLD, THE STORIES THAT UNFORTUNATELY MANY OF US
10:08:03 DON'T EVEN WANT TO HEAR, BUT WE'RE HERE TO LIFT UP THEIR
10:08:07 VOICES.
10:08:10 AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT SOMEONE HAS MENTIONED IS
10:08:14 HOMELESSNESS.
10:08:17 WE'VE HAD SO MUCH MONEY COME INTO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND TO
10:08:20 THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE OF EARMARKED FOR
10:08:26 EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE, PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING THAT
10:08:29 MONEY IN ENOUGH TIME.
10:08:30 SO PEOPLE ARE BECOMING HOMELESS BECAUSE OF THIS.
10:08:33 ONCE THEY ARE HOMELESS, WHAT DOES EMERGENCY RENTAL
10:08:39 ASSISTANCE DO FOR THEM?
10:08:40 NOTHING.
10:08:41 SO THE HOMELESS POPULATION JUST KEEPS INCREASING AND
10:08:45 INCREASING AND INCREASING, AND NOTHING IS BEING DONE ABOUT
10:08:49 IT OR NOT ENOUGH IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT.
10:08:53 THIS CANNOT CONTINUE.
10:08:56 I MYSELF AM NOT AFFECTED BY THE HOUSING CRISIS.
10:09:01 EACH ONE OF YOU, ARE YOU AFFECTED BY THE HOUSING CRISIS?
10:09:05 BUT WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE CAN FOR THOSE WHO ARE.
10:09:11 WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO MARGINALIZE ALREADY MARGINALIZED
10:09:17 PEOPLE.
10:09:18 SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE THAT HELPS THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET
10:09:22 ON THEIR FEET.
10:09:24 POVERTY SHOULD NOT BE CRIMINALIZED.
10:09:27 THANK YOU.
10:09:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:09:34 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:09:36 MY NAME IS NATHAN HAGEN.
10:09:37 ACCORDING TO OUR OWN PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE 1940s, THE
10:09:42 CITY GOVERNMENT, ELECTED BY A PARTY LITERALLY CALLED THE
10:09:44 WHITE MUNICIPAL PARTY OF TAMPA PASSED ITS FIRST CITYWIDE
10:09:48 EUCLIDEAN ZONING CODE WHICH HAD THE EFFECT OF BANNING MOST
10:09:52 HOUSING OPTIONS IN THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY THAT WERE NOT
10:09:54 SINGLE-FAMILY.
10:09:54 TODAY, OVER 80% OF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS SINGLE-FAMILY.
10:09:58 A DELIBERATE PURPOSE OF THIS -- WAS TO REPLACE THE NO LONGER
10:10:04 ENFORCEABLE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT BANNED PEOPLE OF COLOR
10:10:06 FROM LIVING IN OUR NEW SUBURBS, LIKE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND
10:10:09 HYDE PARK AND ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS DOWN BAYSHORE BOULEVARD,
10:10:12 WHICH AT THE TIME, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WERE THE STREETCAR
10:10:16 SUBURBS.
10:10:16 IT OUTLAWED ADUs, BUNGALOW COURTS, DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES,
10:10:21 QUADRUPLEXES, SMALL AND LARGE APARTMENT BUILDINGS ALMOST
10:10:24 CITYWIDE.
10:10:25 ITS EFFECT WAS IF YOU COULD NOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN A
10:10:29 SINGLE-FAMILY, MEANING COULD NOT AFFORD TO OWN A 10,000 OR
10:10:32 MORE-SQUARE-FOOT PIECE OF LAND AND GARDEN, YOU WERE
10:10:35 RELEGATED TO SEVERE HOUSING INSECURITY.
10:10:37 THIS CONCENTRATED POVERTY OPPRESSED OUR COMMUNITIES OF
10:10:40 COLOR.
10:10:40 IT WAS A LEGAL MANEUVER TO REPOSITION RACIAL SEGREGATION AS
10:10:44 ECONOMIC SEGREGATION, WHICH HERE IN TAMPA ARE BASICALLY THE
10:10:47 SAME THING.
10:10:48 HISTORICALLY SPEAKING.
10:10:49 THIS WAS A PRODUCT OF SEGREGATIONIST JIM CROW POLICY TAMPA,
10:10:55 MOST OF US WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE BEHIND.
10:10:56 I KNOW EVERYONE ON COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO AS WELL.
10:10:59 THIS POLICY NO LONGER AFFECTS JUST PEOPLE OF COLOR BUT
10:11:03 VIRTUALLY EVERYONE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:11:05 ECONOMIC SEGREGATION HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT IN THE LAST
10:11:07 COUPLE OF YEARS.
10:11:08 IF YOU ARE SUFFERING FROM TOO HIGH RENTS, YOU ARE SUFFERING
10:11:12 FROM POLICY MEANT TO ENFORCE ECONOMIC SEGREGATION.
10:11:15 IT WAS A POLICY CHOICE WE MADE, NOT A NATURAL PHENOMENA.
10:11:19 THERE IS A REASON WHY PEOPLE LIVE WHERE THEY DO IN THE CITY
10:11:21 OF TAMPA TODAY, AND THERE IS A HISTORY THAT HAS CAUSED THAT
10:11:25 TO BE.
10:11:25 THIS FRAMEWORK HAS NEVER BEEN FUNDAMENTALLY ADDRESSED.
10:11:29 THE ONLY WAY TO DO THIS IS BY LEGALIZING MORE HOUSING TYPES,
10:11:32 INCLUDING ADUs, TRIPLEXES AND QUADRUPLEXES BROADLY
10:11:36 THROUGHOUT THE CITY, NOT IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:11:38 THEY WANT TO TARGET FREE DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO IN
10:11:41 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT FOUGHT TO EXCLUDE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
10:11:44 THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WE TALK ABOUT REDEVELOPING TODAY.
10:11:47 I KNOW TODAY WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT QUADRUPLEXES AND
10:11:50 TRIPLEXES.
10:11:50 AND WE SHOULD KEEP THAT IN MIND.
10:11:52 ADUs ARE ANOTHER IMPORTANT TOPIC THAT ARE A DIRECT RESULT
10:11:58 OF THE POLICY WE PUT IN PLACE WAY BACK WHEN.
10:12:01 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:12:02 I WOULD MAKE PROGRESS ON THIS.
10:12:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:12:08 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:12:10 MY NAME IS ROBIN LOCKET WITH FLORIDA RISING.
10:12:14 I WANT TO BRING BACKGROUND TO TIMBERFALLS.
10:12:17 OVER A YEAR AGO, WE'VE BEEN WORKING -- WE STARTED WORKING ON
10:12:21 TIMBERFALLS.
10:12:22 I THINK THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED FOR EVERYTHING TO BE A
10:12:25 FAILURE.
10:12:26 THE IDEA THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN'T GO OUT AND INSPECT A
10:12:30 PROPERTY, WE'VE CALLED DBPR AND GOT NO RESULTS, NOTHING.
10:12:36 SO NOW THIS SLUMLORD, BECAUSE THEY WERE A SLUMLORD BEFORE,
10:12:43 RIGHT?
10:12:43 NOW THE SLUMLORD WHERE RAT INFESTATION, ROACHES, RAW SEWAGE,
10:12:51 BALCONIES ABOUT TO FALL DOWN, NOW THE SLUMLORD IS CHARGING
10:12:57 IN EXCESS THESE TENANTS MONEY.
10:13:01 SO THERE IS A REAL DISCONNECT IN REGARDS TO ALL THESE
10:13:05 DEPARTMENTS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE TO PROTECT AND
10:13:09 REGULATE AND NOBODY TALKS TO ONE ANOTHER.
10:13:12 SO COUNCIL WAS INVOLVED.
10:13:16 I THANKED LUIS, I THANKED ORLANDO EARLY ON, IN REGARDS TO
10:13:23 TIMBERFALLS, GOING OUT TO IT.
10:13:23 DIANNE HART WAS INVOLVED, AND SHE BROUGHT THE FIRE MARSHAL
10:13:27 OUT THERE TRYING TO CREATE A BACKDOOR OF BEING INVITED TO
10:13:31 COME INTO THOSE INDIVIDUALS' HOMES.
10:13:33 THERE IS A BIGGER PICTURE WITH REFERRING AND NOTHING BEING
10:13:37 DONE.
10:13:37 A COUPLE OF WEEKS I SAID, HEY, THEY MAY NOT HEAR OUR VOICE
10:13:40 BUT THEY MAY HEAR YOURS.
10:13:42 SO THIS IS VERY SERIOUS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT DOING WHAT THEY
10:13:46 ARE ASSIGNED TO DO.
10:13:48 THAT'S A LOT.
10:13:53 IT IS A LOT.
10:13:54 SURPRISINGLY, I'M SPEECHLESS BECAUSE OF IT BEING A LOT.
10:14:02 NOT KNOWING WHERE TO GO.
10:14:05 THE IDEA, YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO MAKE, AND I'M SO SERIOUS
10:14:10 ABOUT THIS, ON BEING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THINGS OR BEING
10:14:14 ABOUT PROFIT.
10:14:16 THE LANDLORDS ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
10:14:18 SOMEBODY CAME UP HERE TODAY SUPPORTING THE LANDLORDS AND
10:14:22 SAYING THAT THE REASON WHY THEY DO -- IF YOU HAVE BAD
10:14:25 CREDIT, YOU CAN'T GET AN APARTMENT AS IT IS.
10:14:28 THREE TIMES THE RENT IS WHAT'S GOING ON NOW.
10:14:31 WHAT'S GOING ON BEFORE, NOW HEAR FIVE TIMES THE RENT IN SOME
10:14:35 PLACES.
10:14:36 SO ALL THE THINGS IN REGARDS TO KEEPING A PERSON OUT IS
10:14:39 ALREADY BEING DONE.
10:14:41 RENT INCREASES, $300 TO $800 FOR A RENT INCREASE, THAT'S
10:14:49 CRAZY.
10:14:50 BUT THEY ARE DOING IT BECAUSE THEY CAN.
10:14:52 SO YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE WITH THE PEOPLE
10:14:56 OR THE WRONG SIDE WITH DEVELOPERS.
10:14:59 AND LANDLORDS AND ANYBODY JACKING UP PRICE PUSHING PEOPLE
10:15:03 OUT.
10:15:04 THANK YOU.
10:15:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:15:13 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:15:14 MICHAEL McNABB.
10:15:15 I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 111.
10:15:19 AND THERE ARE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE --
10:15:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU SPEAKING ON THAT?
10:15:22 >> NO, I'M NOT.
10:15:23 I HAVE A QUESTION.
10:15:24 WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM
10:15:28 AND I WONDERED IF YOU THOUGHT WE WOULD GET TO THAT ITEM
10:15:30 BEFORE YOUR LUNCH BREAK OR IF IT WOULD BE THIS AFTERNOON SO
10:15:33 I CAN LET PEOPLE KNOW.
10:15:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE DO HAVE A VERY, VERY BUSY AGENDA.
10:15:38 I'M GOING TO SAY -- I'M PROBABLY GOING TO SAY THAT WE ARE
10:15:45 PROBABLY GOING TO SEE THAT AFTER OUR LUNCH BREAK.
10:15:48 >> THANK YOU.
10:15:48 THAT'S ALL I WANTED.
10:15:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, DOES THAT MEAN THAT COUNCIL
10:15:54 WILL THEN HOLD ITEM 111 UNTIL AFTER THE LUNCH BREAK?
10:15:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:16:03 >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:16:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CORRECT.
10:16:04 THAT WAS MY POINT.
10:16:05 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:16:06 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:16:10 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:16:12 CRAIG PILE.
10:16:12 I'M ONE OF I THINK THE MAJORITY IN THE TAMPA WHO HAS MOVED
10:16:16 IN HERE IN THE LAST SIX YEARS FROM OTHER STATES.
10:16:19 I'M FROM OHIO, DAYTON, OHIO.
10:16:22 GLAD TO MAKE THIS MY HOME.
10:16:23 MY DAUGHTER IS AN ALUMNI OF THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
10:16:27 SO I WANT TO BE PROACTIVE IN SHARING WITH YOU THAT I'M THE
10:16:31 FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR OF POWER NET OF TAMPA, WHICH ALTHOUGH
10:16:36 STILL HEADQUARTERED IN OHIO, OPERATING AS A FOREIGN
10:16:40 CORPORATION HERE IN FLORIDA.
10:16:43 DO YOU ALL KNOW THAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS THE HIGHEST
10:16:49 RECIDIVISM RATE IN THE STATE AMONG THE TOP TEN MOST
10:16:55 POPULATED COUNTIES IN FLORIDA?
10:16:56 DO YOU KNOW THAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SENDS MORE PEOPLE TO
10:17:03 PRISON EVERY YEAR THAN ANY OTHER COUNTY IN FLORIDA?
10:17:09 I'M SAYING COUNTY, BUT YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE TAMPA FOR COUNTY
10:17:14 BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, MOST OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS LEAVE, ARE
10:17:21 ARRESTED AND CONVICTED FROM TAMPA AND RETURN TO TAMPA.
10:17:23 SO WHAT I'M DOING IS WORKING WITH THE COALITION OF
10:17:26 ORGANIZATIONS TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THIS BECAUSE THERE'S NO
10:17:30 EXPLANATION OF WHY HILLSBOROUGH, ONLY THE FOURTH LARGEST
10:17:34 COUNTY, HAS THE HIGHEST RECIDIVISM RATE AND SEND MORE PEOPLE
10:17:38 TO PRISON THAN ANY OTHER COUNTY.
10:17:40 NOW, WE CAN ALL SPECULATE, BUT I'M WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.
10:17:45 I'M GOING TO -- BLACK ADVISORY COUNCIL, WORKING WITH OTHERS
10:17:50 TO SEE IF WE CAN ESTABLISH A TASK FORCE, A GROUP, A
10:17:54 MULTI-SECTOR GROUP OF COMMUNITY LEADERS AND OTHERS WHO WERE
10:17:58 CONCERNED ABOUT THIS TO FIGURE IT OUT AND COME UP WITH
10:18:03 POSSIBLY A STRATEGIC PLAN, LIKE THE OTHER COUNTIES WHO HAVE
10:18:09 A HIGHER POPULATION BUT LESS RECIDIVISM.
10:18:15 THERE'S NO STRATEGIC PLAN FOR DEALING WITH THE THOUSANDS OF
10:18:20 INDIVIDUALS RETURNING TO THIS CITY EVERY YEAR FROM STATE AND
10:18:27 FEDERAL PRISONS, NOT INCLUDING THE 20,000 OR SO WHO
10:18:33 CIRCULATE THROUGH THE COUNTY JAIL.
10:18:35 SO I'M JUST HERE TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION IF YOU
10:18:40 DIDN'T UNDERSTAND OR DIDN'T KNOW THE STATISTICS.
10:18:43 I HOPE TO INVITE SOMEONE FROM THE CITY TO JOIN A COUNTY
10:18:48 EFFORT TO START TO LOOK INTO THOSE ISSUES AND BRING SOME
10:18:53 RESOLUTION TO IT.
10:18:54 THANK YOU.
10:18:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:18:56 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:19:00 >>LYNN HURTAK: SIR?
10:19:03 SIR, I THINK IT WOULD BE -- I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, BUT
10:19:08 OTHERS MIGHT AGREE, IF YOU E-MAIL OUR OFFICES, I THINK WE
10:19:11 WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
10:19:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO TO THE WEBSITE AND THEN E-MAIL ALL OF
10:19:23 CITY COUNCIL.
10:19:24 WE'LL ALL GET AN E-MAIL SO WE CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT YOUR
10:19:26 ORGANIZATION AND PARTNER UP AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
10:19:29 >> IT'S NOT ABOUT MY ORGANIZATION.
10:19:31 I'M JUST ONE OF THOSE GUYS WHO FEELS COMFORTABLE TAKING A
10:19:34 LEAD ROLE, MUCH LIKE I DID IN OHIO WHERE WE STARTED OUT WITH
10:19:37 THE HIGHEST RECIDIVISM RATE.
10:19:39 YES, I WILL DO THAT.
10:19:41 THANK YOU FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.
10:19:47 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:19:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
10:19:56 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:19:57 HI.
10:19:57 YES.
10:19:58 I'M HERE JUST TO ADDRESS A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE A LITTLE A
10:20:03 WHILE REGARDING A FUTURE CASE AND THE TIMING THAT I AM THE
10:20:06 APPLICANT IN THAT CASE.
10:20:08 I JUST FIND IT TO BE A BIT UNUSUAL FOR SUCH A REQUEST OR
10:20:12 EVEN SUCH A THING TO BE BROUGHT UP IN TERMS OF TIMING.
10:20:18 I THINK THAT MY TIME AND EVERYONE'S TIME IS JUST AS
10:20:22 IMPORTANT.
10:20:23 I'VE BEEN HERE ALL MORNING AND PLAN TO BE HERE UNTIL MY CASE
10:20:27 IS HEARD.
10:20:28 I THINK IT SEEMS UNUSUAL TO ME THAT YOU WOULD MAKE
10:20:31 ARRANGEMENTS FOR SOME FORM OF CONVENIENCE IN THIS CASE.
10:20:37 I HAVE A FATHER IN THE HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW, VERY SICK, BUT
10:20:40 I'M HERE BECAUSE THAT'S THE RULES.
10:20:43 SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD NOT SET SOME FORM OF
10:20:47 PRECEDENCE, PARTICULARLY FOR MY CASE, I'M SPEAKING FOR
10:20:50 MYSELF TO MAKE THOSE KIND OF STATEMENTS AND ACCOMMODATIONS
10:20:53 TO PUT SOMETHING OFF THAT OUGHT TO BE SIMPLY IN THE ROLE OF
10:20:59 THE TIME THAT IT COMES UP.
10:21:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
10:21:05 AND WE DO HAVE A VERY BUSY AGENDA.
10:21:10 THERE ARE TIMES WHEN TWO OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS TEND TO
10:21:15 COINCIDE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
10:21:16 BUT YOU ARE CORRECT.
10:21:18 WE GO OUR AGENDA ITEM BY ITEM BY ITEM.
10:21:21 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:21:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME CLEAR THE AIR.
10:21:26 IT HAPPENS QUITE OFTEN.
10:21:27 YOU CAN CHECK THE RECORDS.
10:21:29 WE TELL THE PEOPLE WHEN IT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN.
10:21:32 THE GENTLEMAN CAME UP AND ASKED A REQUEST.
10:21:35 THE ANSWER WAS WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AFTER LUNCH BECAUSE
10:21:37 WE'RE NOW ON ITEM WHAT IS IT?
10:21:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM 4.
10:21:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOUR ITEM IS 111.
10:21:45 DO YOU THINK WE'LL DO THAT IN AN HOUR AND A HALF, SIR?
10:21:48 >> HE SPECIFICALLY ASKED IF THE ITEM COMES UP SOONER, THEN
10:21:51 DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT IT AFTER LUNCH AND YOU SAID YES.
10:21:54 THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.
10:21:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I CAN CLARIFY THAT AND I'M NOT SPEAKING
10:21:58 FOR COUNCIL, BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT IF THAT HAD COME
10:22:03 UP BEFORE WE WENT TO LUNCH, ANY TYPE OF STATEMENT THAT I HAD
10:22:07 MADE THAT IT WAS GOING TO COME AFTER LUNCH, WE'RE JUST
10:22:11 CLARIFYING, WE'RE GOING TO GET TO IT AS THE AGENDA ITEMS GO
10:22:15 ALONG.
10:22:15 >> OKAY.
10:22:16 THAT'S ALL I WAS JUST ASKING.
10:22:18 I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
10:22:19 THANK YOU.
10:22:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, THANK YOU.
10:22:21 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:22:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO SAY REAL QUICK, AFTER
10:22:26 LISTENING TO PUBLIC COMMENT, I KNOW WE'RE NOT TO RESPOND,
10:22:29 BUT THIS SITUATION IS VERY BAD, VERY DANGEROUS IN REGARDS TO
10:22:37 THE HOUSING CATASTROPHE THAT'S HERE.
10:22:39 I THINK IT'S BEYOND CRISIS.
10:22:40 IT'S BEYOND -- I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TIMBERFALLS IS
10:22:45 ONE PLACE, BUT WHAT ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY OF
10:22:51 TAMPA?
10:22:51 WHEN THE WOMAN CAME AND SPOKE AND SAID HER RENT WAS PAID TO
10:22:54 JULY AND NOW SHE'S IN ARREARS AND COULD FACE AN EVICTION, MY
10:22:59 MOTHER RENTS.
10:23:01 WHAT IF THAT WAS MY MOTHER?
10:23:02 WHERE WOULD SHE BE?
10:23:03 DO I BRING HER IN TO WHERE I LIVE?
10:23:06 DOES SHE COME UP WITH THE MONEY SOMEHOW?
10:23:09 THE SITUATION, YOU LOOK AT THE INFLATION RATE AT 9.1%.
10:23:13 YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE STOCK MARKET.
10:23:16 SOMETHING BAD IS HAPPENING.
10:23:17 I'M STILL TRAUMATIZED FROM THE GREAT RECESSION BECAUSE I
10:23:20 GRADUATED COLLEGE AND IT WAS, GRAILS, THERE ARE NO JOBS, AND
10:23:23 WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE FINANCIAL CRISIS AND IN THE
10:23:26 HOUSING CRISIS.
10:23:27 BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE STREETS.
10:23:30 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN BAD SITUATIONS THAT
10:23:33 AREN'T ALREADY IN BAD SITUATIONS.
10:23:35 IF WE DON'T USE ALL THE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX WITHIN OUR
10:23:39 JURISDICTION AS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH,
10:23:42 BUT WE SHOULD DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN BECAUSE A SITUATION, THIS
10:23:46 IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG IF WE DON'T START MOVING REAL
10:23:50 QUICK.
10:23:50 THANK YOU.
10:23:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:23:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M SICK OF COMING HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK,
10:23:58 MEETING COMMUNITIES AND HEARING STORIES OF OUR SENIORS,
10:24:00 PEOPLE WHO ARE DISABLED.
10:24:02 I'M NOT AFRAID OF POLITICAL PRESSURE.
10:24:04 PEOPLE COME AFTER ME ALL THE TIME.
10:24:06 BUT I'M NOT AFRAID TO MAKE A MOTION IN REFERENCE TO AN
10:24:11 EMERGENCY CRISIS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:24:13 FOLKS, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD GET A SECOND OR GET TO VOTE
10:24:16 TO PASS IT.
10:24:17 BUT I'M JUST SAYING, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
10:24:21 MONEY OVER PROFIT.
10:24:23 I UNDERSTAND WE ARE A CAPITALISM PLACE, BUT WE GOT SOME
10:24:27 ISSUES HERE, FOLKS, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:24:30 AND I DON'T KNOW THE TOTAL ANSWER.
10:24:34 I KNOW LEGAL IS AFRAID OF MULTIPLE LAWSUITS IF THE COUNCIL
10:24:38 GOES AND PUTS SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT FOR THE VOTERS.
10:24:41 BUT WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.
10:24:44 I'LL THINK VERY HARD BEFORE THE END OF THE DAY ABOUT A
10:24:47 MOTION IN REFERENCE TO PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT
10:24:50 BECAUSE IT'S GETTING PRETTY BAD NOW.
10:24:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:24:59 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL ECHO COUNCIL'S ABSOLUTE FRUSTRATION.
10:25:02 FRUSTRATION BECAUSE, YES, WE ARE LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN DO,
10:25:10 BUT WHY CAN'T WE GET THROUGH TO THE STATE?
10:25:13 IT FEELS LIKE IF ANYBODY CAN GET THROUGH TO THE STATE, IT
10:25:17 SHOULD BE US.
10:25:18 LIKE, WE CAN'T EVEN BREAK THROUGH.
10:25:22 IT IS UNBELIEVABLY FRUSTRATING, AND I WELCOME ANY AND ALL
10:25:28 IDEAS FOR HOW WE CAN GET THROUGH TO THE STATE ON THESE
10:25:32 ISSUES BECAUSE IT IS JUST -- IT'S CRIMINAL THE WAY PEOPLE
10:25:36 ARE LIVING AND THE FACT THAT YOU'RE TELLING US WE CAN'T DO
10:25:39 ANYTHING ABOUT IT, IT'S LIKE STANDING IN FRONT OF A BURNING
10:25:42 PEOPLE WITH INSIDE AND SAY, OH, YOU CAN'T FIGHT THAT FIRE.
10:25:46 THAT'S JUST UNCONSCIONABLE.
10:25:48 AT SOME POINT, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, BUT I WISH I KNEW
10:25:52 WHAT.
10:25:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND, AGAIN, YOU HEAR
10:26:02 OUR FRUSTRATION.
10:26:07 I'M ASKING YOU, I'M ASKING YOU, PLEASE, TAKE DOWN THIS
10:26:12 NUMBER, AREA CODE 850-487-1395.
10:26:21 AREA CODE 850-481-1395.
10:26:38 I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
10:26:43 WE COLLECTIVELY HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS.
10:26:49 THIS IS THE DEPARTMENT OF PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS REGULATION.
10:26:53 I HAVE CONTACTED THIS OFFICE AND I'M SURE SOME OF US HAVE
10:26:59 ALSO DONE THAT.
10:27:00 IT IS TIME FOR YOU, THE CITIZENS AND TELL THEM EXACTLY WHAT
10:27:05 YOU'RE TELLING US, THAT YOU WON'T STAND FOR IT ANYMORE, THAT
10:27:08 WE WON'T STAND FOR IT ANYMORE.
10:27:10 DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
10:27:14 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:27:17 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:27:18 I WAS GOING TO SAY, BY THE WAY, WE DO HAVE SOME FOLKS, I
10:27:21 KNOW AT LEAST ONE PERSON FROM TIMBERFALLS IS ONLINE.
10:27:24 ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT STARTLED ME WITH THIS, THEY
10:27:29 CALLED ME AT TIMBERFALLS, I GOT CALLS ON THIS FROM RESIDENTS
10:27:32 THERE BECAUSE I TRY TO GO THERE EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS.
10:27:36 THEY KNOW ME AND THEY KNOW MY NUMBER.
10:27:38 AND I GOT CALLS ON IT.
10:27:40 SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS TO VISIT THESE
10:27:45 APARTMENTS BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING AT TIMBERFALLS IN TERMS
10:27:49 OF THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE WITH THE MONETARY AMOUNTS ALLEGEDLY
10:27:52 DUE IS PROBABLY HAPPENING IN OTHER PLACES BUT WE JUST DON'T
10:27:55 KNOW ABOUT IT.
10:27:56 BY GOING OUT THERE WE CAN KNOW ABOUT IT.
10:27:58 I ECHO AGAIN WITH REGARDS TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA, I SEE
10:28:02 MR. O'CONNOR IS HERE.
10:28:03 REMEMBER GOING OUT TO TIMBERFALLS WITH HIM ABOUT 10, 11
10:28:07 MONTHS AGO, WE'VE HAD FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA NUMEROUS
10:28:10 ATTEMPTS AND OUTREACHES TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA WITH VERY,
10:28:14 VERY LIMITED SUCCESS ON POSITIVE, FAVORABLE OUTCOMES
10:28:18 WHENEVER IT COMES TO PLACES LIKE TIMBERFALLS.
10:28:20 I'M GOING TO BE MAKING SOME MOTIONS -- I'LL BE MAKING SOME
10:28:26 MOTIONS ON THIS ISSUE SO THAT WE EXHAUST ALL OF OUR OPTIONS
10:28:30 THAT WE HAVE AND THEN SOME BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT THAT WE CAN
10:28:33 DO, INCLUDING RINGING THE BELL, MAKING SURE THAT THESE
10:28:36 RESIDENTS HAVE OUR NUMBERS SO THAT WHEN THESE ACUTE ISSUES
10:28:39 COME UP, WE CAN KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN
10:28:42 TIMBERFALLS IS PROBABLY HAPPENING IN A BUNCH OF OTHER
10:28:45 PLACES.
10:28:45 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:28:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MADAM CLERK.
10:28:50 DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS ONLINE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:28:55 >>THE CLERK: GOOD MORNING.
10:28:55 THE FIRST SPEAKER THAT WE HAVE IS ANGEL D'ANGELO.
10:28:59 ANGEL, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:29:03 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:29:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. D'ANGELO.
10:29:19 >> HELLO.
10:29:20 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:29:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. D'ANGELO, ARE YOU THERE?
10:29:24 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:29:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
10:29:27 >> OKAY.
10:29:28 THANK YOU.
10:29:28 MY NAME IS ANGEL D'ANGELO.
10:29:30 BORN AND RAISED IN TAMPA.
10:29:32 I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T KEEP PUNTING THE
10:29:36 PEOPLE TO THE STATE.
10:29:36 WE'RE AWARE OF PREEMPTION.
10:29:38 WE'RE AWARE, A STATE THAT DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE OR
10:29:44 LOCAL CONTROL.
10:29:45 THERE ARE THINGS IN YOUR POWER.
10:29:46 I PERSONALLY, AS WELL AS ROBIN AND BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE
10:29:49 HAVE SENT YOU SOLUTIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN OTHER PARTS OF
10:29:52 THIS STATE.
10:29:53 OBVIOUSLY, OUR LEGAL COUNSEL IS SKEWED TOWARDS THE MAYOR AND
10:29:59 HER AMBITIONS, SO THEY ARE GOING TO KNOCK DOWN EVERYTHING WE
10:30:02 HAVE.
10:30:02 SO GET ON THE PHONE AND CALL MIAMI LEGAL COUNSEL AND ASK
10:30:05 THEM HOW COME THEY ARE ABLE TO PASS A LAW THAT SAYS YOU
10:30:08 CAN'T DISCRIMINATE AGAINST EVICTIONS ANYMORE?
10:30:11 GET ON THE PHONE AND FIND OUT HOW OTHER CITIES LIKE
10:30:15 BALTIMORE, SAN FRAN AND NEW YORK CITY ARE ABLE TO PASS A
10:30:20 RIGHT TO COUNSEL WHICH IS KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES.
10:30:22 YOU DO THE WORK.
10:30:23 DON'T ASK THE CONSTITUENTS TO DO THE WORK.
10:30:25 I'M AT MY JOB RIGHT NOW TALKING TO YOU BECAUSE I GOT TO PAY
10:30:29 THESE RENT INCREASES.
10:30:30 DO A HOUSING FIRST PROGRAM LIKE HOUSTON.
10:30:33 GET ON THE PHONE YOURSELVES OR YOUR STAFF AND GET ON THE
10:30:37 PHONE.
10:30:37 WITH HOUSTON AND FIND OUT HOW THEY ARE ABLE TO DO A HOUSING
10:30:42 FIRST PROGRAM THAT GOT A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SAFE IN HOME
10:30:45 WITHOUT A CONDITION OF FAITH, WITHOUT REQUIRING THEM TO BE
10:30:48 SOBER, WITHOUT REQUIRING THEM TO GET A SPECIFIC JOB.
10:30:51 JUST GET PEOPLE HOMES.
10:30:53 TAKE MONEY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT INTO THE POLICE
10:30:56 DEPARTMENT, STOP GIVING THEM RAISES.
10:30:59 THEY SHOOT DOGS.
10:30:59 THEY GET ARRESTED FOR SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
10:31:04 WE HAVE SO MANY CROOKED COPS.
10:31:06 THE MAYOR KEEPS INCREASING THEIR BUDGET AND YET CRIME AND
10:31:13 VIOLENCE CONTINUES TO HAPPEN.
10:31:14 TRY SOMETHING ELSE, LIKE PROVIDING RESOURCES.
10:31:18 THE CAHOOTS PROGRAM NOT CONNECTED TO THE POLICE.
10:31:21 GET ON THE PHONE AND CALL EUGENE, OREGON.
10:31:24 I DID THAT.
10:31:25 I GOT ON THE PHONE IN 2020 AND GAVE YOU THE INFORMATION.
10:31:29 YOU DID A CORESPONSE PROGRAM WHICH IS USELESS.
10:31:32 DO SOMETHING NOW.
10:31:34 IF THIS WAS A HURRICANE, WE WOULD BE ON HURRICANE WARNING.
10:31:36 THIS IS LANDFALL.
10:31:40 THE WARNING HAS BEEN SOUNDED.
10:31:42 LANDFALL.
10:31:42 THIS IS A CATASTROPHE.
10:31:44 DECLARE A HOUSING EMERGENCY NOW.
10:31:46 RENT CONTROL NOW.
10:31:47 RIGHT TO COUNSEL NOW.
10:31:48 HOUSING FIRST NOW.
10:31:49 THANK YOU.
10:31:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:31:53 MR. RANDOLPH, ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
10:31:56 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, MR. RANDOLPH IS NOT ON THE LINE.
10:31:59 THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE JEAN STROHMEYER.
10:32:03 JEAN, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU
10:32:06 HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:32:08 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MORNING, EVERYBODY.
10:32:12 JEAN STROHMEYER HERE.
10:32:13 I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND RUN THROUGH THE AGENDA.
10:32:18 FIRST OF ALL, THE BIBLE SAYS YOU DON'T GIVE SOMEBODY FISH.
10:32:20 YOU TEACH THEM HOW TO FISH.
10:32:22 WHY DON'T WE GIVE PEOPLE JOBS AND CREATE JOBS, THAT WAY
10:32:25 PEOPLE WILL HAVE DECENT-PAYING JOBS TO PAY THEIR RENT.
10:32:29 I KNOW IT'S EXPENSIVE RIGHT NOW.
10:32:31 I GET THAT.
10:32:31 SO JUST -- AND ALSO, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ON THIS, ALL THIS
10:32:37 MARIJUANA AND YOU ALL ARE APPROVING DISPENSARIES ALL OVER
10:32:41 THE PLACE.
10:32:42 I JUST HAD -- MY STEPSON JUST DIED LAST WEEK BECAUSE OF AN
10:32:46 OVERDOSE FROM THESE DRUGS.
10:32:49 I REALLY THINK YOU ALL NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT SERIOUSLY AND
10:32:51 STOP IT.
10:32:52 STOP THE MADNESS.
10:32:53 ON THE AGENDA, I'LL GO THROUGH WHAT I CAN IN THE SHORT TIME
10:32:57 THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE THERE ARE 130 ITEMS, WHICH IS OUT OF
10:33:01 CONTROL.
10:33:01 THE ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE, THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE REAL ESTATE
10:33:07 BUSINESS IS NOT COOL.
10:33:08 DON'T LIKE IT.
10:33:09 NUMBER SIX, EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS THAT YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO
10:33:16 DESIGN-BUILD WHATEVER THAT IS.
10:33:18 IS IT LIKE BLOOMBERG OR SOMETHING THAT'S PUTTING THAT
10:33:21 FORWARD THAT KIND OF MONEY?
10:33:22 WE DO KNOW WE'RE IN A RECESSION.
10:33:25 ITEM NUMBER 8, SOLID WASTE, THERE'S ANOTHER ALLOCATION OF
10:33:30 TONS OF MONEY.
10:33:32 NINE IS THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
10:33:34 TONS OF MONEY.
10:33:35 NUMBER TEN, BILL OF RIGHTS, AGAIN, PEOPLE MAKE CONTRACTS
10:33:40 WITH EACH OTHER.
10:33:41 THEY CAN ACCEPT IT OR NOT ACCEPT IT.
10:33:43 SO THAT'S WHAT A CONTRACT IS.
10:33:45 THAT'S WHAT A LEASE IS.
10:33:47 IT'S A CONTRACT.
10:33:49 12 AND 13, 12 IS A QUADRUPLEXES, I DON'T KNOW SOME OF THOSE,
10:33:55 THEY DON'T HAVE AN ADDRESS.
10:33:56 I'D APPRECIATE YOU ALL PUTTING AN ADDRESS WITH ZIP CODES ON
10:33:59 THESE SO WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO
10:34:03 SEARCH FOR THIS STUFF.
10:34:04 15, THERE'S ALL THIS TRANSPORTATION MONEY, HOW ABOUT FOR
10:34:07 SOUTH OF GANDY.
10:34:08 WE NEED SOME OF THAT MONEY WE WERE PROMISED AND IT WAS TAKEN
10:34:12 FROM US.
10:34:12 UNION STATION, GOOD ON YOU, BILL, FOR GETTING THAT TAKEN
10:34:16 CARE OF.
10:34:17 I KNOW YOU WERE WORKING HARD ON THAT.
10:34:19 18 I'M FOLLOWING.
10:34:22 CIVIL -- WHAT IS THIS?
10:34:23 IN 19, CIVIL RIGHT AND CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS.
10:34:27 NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS ABOUT.
10:34:29 I'LL BE FOLLOWING IT.
10:34:30 DISADVANTAGED PEOPLE, NUMBER 22, WHO ARE THOSE DISADVANTAGED
10:34:35 WORKERS?
10:34:35 23 IS KIND OF ABOUT PENALTY MAKING REVISIONS.
10:34:39 NOT SURE WHAT 23 IS ABOUT.
10:34:41 IF THERE ARE BAD PEOPLE -- 24, YOU HAVE LIKE 11 ISSUES IN
10:34:49 ITEM NUMBER 24.
10:34:50 YOU'RE CHANGING AN ENTIRE CODE AND THERE'S 11 ISSUES IN ONE
10:34:57 SWOOP.
10:34:57 NOT SURE WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
10:34:59 PROBABLY ANOTHER BLOOMBERG IDEA.
10:35:00 WE HAVE A LOT OF CORRUPTION GOING ON IN OUR CITY.
10:35:03 I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THAT.
10:35:05 WE WANT SOUTH OF GANDY.
10:35:06 WE DON'T WANT -- WE NEED MORE FUNDS HERE.
10:35:11 OH, AND THERE IS A THING ON THE AGENDA, I HEARD THAT THE
10:35:14 MAYOR AND BENNETT ARE ALL IN -- THEY ARE MAKING A CONTRACT
10:35:18 WITH EACH OTHER --
10:35:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. STROHMEYER.
10:35:20 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:35:21 >> YEAH.
10:35:24 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:35:27 STEPHANIE, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF
10:35:31 AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:35:33 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:35:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
10:35:35 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:35:36 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
10:35:37 IT TAKES A SPECIAL PERSON TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR
10:35:40 OUR CITY. IT TAKES A SPECIAL PERSON TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE
10:35:44 OF TAMPA, NOT THOSE WITH SPECIAL INTERESTS AND DEEP POCKETS.
10:35:47 SPEAKING OF DEEP POCKETS, OUR CITY BID PROCESS IS DESIGNED
10:35:52 TO KEEP THE FUNDS IN OUR CITY BUDGET.
10:35:55 WHEN I LOOK AT TODAY'S AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 8 FOR $8 MILLION
10:35:59 OF SPENDING DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE A BID SHEET INCLUDED.
10:36:03 ITEMS 47 THROUGH 55 HAVE BID SHEETS OF SOME SORT WITH EACH
10:36:09 WITH ONE OF THEM.
10:36:09 ON JUST THREE OF THOSE, THE CITY SAVED ENOUGH MONEY TO
10:36:15 DOUBLE OUR SIDEWALK FUND.
10:36:18 WHY ARE WE SEEING THESE LARGE PROJECTS COME THROUGH WITHOUT
10:36:20 PROOF OF THE BID PROCESS?
10:36:21 EVERY ITEM ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AGENDA SHOULD HAVE A BASIC
10:36:25 BID SHEET, IDENTIFIED AS SUCH IN SIRE WITH THE COMPANIES WHO
10:36:31 BID THE PRICE OF EACH BID WITH THE BID CHOSEN.
10:36:36 I HAD TO SCROLL THROUGH 25 OR 30 PAGES OF SOME OF THESE BIDS
10:36:39 IN ORDER TO FIND THAT SIMPLE INFORMATION.
10:36:41 EVERY TIME I SEE A BID LIST, I SEE 5% TO 25%, SOMETIMES EVEN
10:36:47 MORE IN SAVINGS, AND I THINK ABOUT THE HANNA STREET PROJECT
10:36:50 WHERE WE SPENT $100 MILLION WITHOUT A BID.
10:36:54 1% OF THAT SAVINGS WOULD BE $1 MILLION.
10:36:58 HOW MANY FOLKS COULD WE HAVE HELPED IN THIS HOUSING CRISIS
10:37:02 WITH THOSE FUNDS?
10:37:02 SPEAKING OF MONEY, AS A MEMBER OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, LAST
10:37:08 YEAR WE REQUESTED THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECEIVE RAISES AND
10:37:12 RECEIVE ADDITIONAL STAFF.
10:37:13 [INDISCERNIBLE]
10:37:13 IN ONE BASKET.
10:37:21 MR. SHELBY IS AWESOME, BUT HIS JOB HAS GROWN OVER THE PAST
10:37:25 18 YEARS.
10:37:26 WE HAVE SEEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN THERE IS A NEED FOR
10:37:29 ADDITIONAL COUNSEL THAT REPRESENTS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
10:37:33 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE IN ADDITION THE FINANCE PERSON WHO
10:37:38 IS ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE CHARTER BE INCLUDED IN THIS
10:37:42 UPCOMING BUDGET.
10:37:43 LET'S TALK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT OUR CITY STAFF.
10:37:46 NUMBER 16.
10:37:47 THANK YOU FOR ASKING, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, AND COUNCILMAN
10:37:52 MANISCALCO, FOR THOSE FOLKS TO BE COMMENDATED.
10:37:58 THEY SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR THEIR WORK.
10:38:00 I THINK CITIZENS SHOULD BE ABLE TO NOMINATE THESE FOLKS.
10:38:02 I CAN EASILY RATTLE OFF A LIST FOR THE FIRST AWARD.
10:38:06 ALSO IN CONSIDERATION FOR CITY STAFF, WE NEED THEM WORKING.
10:38:10 I UNDERSTAND A COUNCILMAN STATED THIS WEEK THAT IT IS TIME
10:38:13 FOR CMT TO COME TO AN END.
10:38:16 AS SOMEONE WHO HAS SAT IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS FOR MORE THAN
10:38:20 MOST, IT IS DIFFICULT TO DO ANYTHING WHILE SITTING THERE.
10:38:24 WHEN OUR STAFFERS ARE SITTING THERE ALL DAY LONG, THEY ARE
10:38:28 NOT BEING PRODUCTIVE, YET YOU ARE TAKING AWAY ONE-FIFTH OF
10:38:33 THEIR PRODUCTIVITY BY THEM SITTING IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
10:38:37 I HAVE TESTIFIED PERSONALLY FROM HOME WITH COVID, INFLUENZA
10:38:42 A AND AFTER HAVING SURGERY.
10:38:44 NOT EVERYONE CAN SPEND THEIR ENTIRE DAY OR EVENING DOWNTOWN.
10:38:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR.
10:38:49 >> PLEASE, KEEP CM --
10:38:53 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE VALENCIA
10:38:56 SIMPSON HOLMES.
10:38:57 VALENCIA, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:39:00 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:39:01 >> HI.
10:39:02 MY NAME IS VALENCIA.
10:39:04 FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA.
10:39:10 ANYTIME I CALL HIM, WHETHER IT'S AFTER HOURS, HE'S THERE.
10:39:14 COME ON A SUNDAY, IF I CALL HIM ON A SUNDAY, HE'S THERE.
10:39:18 MY THING IS, I'LL PIGGYBACK ON TIMBERFALLS.
10:39:26 TIMBERFALLS IS VERY DEPLORABLE.
10:39:29 WE CALLED MR. LUIS A WHILE BACK.
10:39:35 WE HAVE TOILETS WITH FECES BACKING UP IN APARTMENTS, IN THE
10:39:38 TUBS, IN THE KITCHEN SINK.
10:39:41 LAST WEEKEND, MY WHOLE AIR-CONDITIONING UNIT WAS BROKE AND
10:39:46 THE WATER WAS LEAKING OUT IN THE HALLWAY.
10:39:49 I COULDN'T GO TO CHURCH BECAUSE I HAD TO MOP UP WATER IN MY
10:39:54 HALLWAY WITH MOLD COMING OUT ON THE FLOOR.
10:39:58 WE ARE FORCED TO STAY HERE BECAUSE THE RENT IS SO HIGH
10:40:01 EVERYWHERE.
10:40:03 THREE AND FOUR TIMES YOUR PAY AND I'M JUST ON SSI, WHICH I
10:40:09 ONLY GET EIGHT HUNDRED AND SOMETHING DOLLARS A MONTH.
10:40:12 I'M FORCED TO STAY HERE.
10:40:13 SUCKING UP MOLD.
10:40:19 IF IT RAINS, I'M STUCK IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE IT FLOODS RIGHT
10:40:22 OUTSIDE MY DOOR.
10:40:23 I CAN'T GO TO CHURCH.
10:40:25 IT'S REALLY BAD.
10:40:27 AND THEN THE -- THEY ARE TRYING TO GET ALL THIS MONEY OUT OF
10:40:32 US BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE HAD THE PROPERTY HAD STOLE OUR MONEY
10:40:35 AND NOW THEY WANT US TO PAY THIS MONEY.
10:40:38 THEY WANT ME TO PAY 3,000 AND SOME DOLLARS.
10:40:41 I ONLY GET 800 AND SOME DOLLARS A MONTH.
10:40:48 HOW DO I DO THAT?
10:40:49 STICKING NOTES ON THE DOOR.
10:40:56 NOW THEY WANT US TO PAY BECAUSE THE NEW MANAGEMENT THAT CAME
10:41:01 IN.
10:41:02 SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE BEEN HERE GOING ON TWO YEARS AND
10:41:05 THREE DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT THAT HAD THIS PROPERTY AND ALL
10:41:11 STOLE THE TENANTS' MONEY.
10:41:12 IT'S NOT RIGHT.
10:41:13 IT'S NOT FAIR.
10:41:14 I HAVE TO STAY HERE.
10:41:16 I COME FROM CITRUS PARK.
10:41:18 I CAME HERE BECAUSE I HAD NOWHERE TO GO BECAUSE THE RENT WAS
10:41:24 SO HIGH.
10:41:26 THAT'S WHY I WAS FORCED TO GET IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
10:41:28 I'M NOT USED TO NOTHING LIKE THIS.
10:41:30 I'M NOT USED TO IT.
10:41:32 MR. GUDES KNOW MY BROTHER.
10:41:34 MY BROTHER WORKS FOR HIM.
10:41:38 WE'RE NOT THESE TYPE OF PEOPLE.
10:41:39 THEY THINK PEOPLE ON SECTION 8 HAVE TO LIVE LIKE WE'RE ON
10:41:45 SECTION 8.
10:41:45 SOME PEOPLE ARE GOOD THAT'S ON SECTION 8.
10:41:45 WE DON'T DESERVE IT.
10:41:49 PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT TIMBERFALLS.
10:41:53 PLEASE.
10:41:53 THANK YOU.
10:41:58 THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
10:42:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE'LL NOW GO TO STAFF REPORTS.
10:42:05 CHIEF BENNETT, ARE YOU THERE?
10:42:08 CHIEF BENNETT?
10:42:19 >>JOHN BENNETT: I AM.
10:42:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:42:20 I KNOW THAT YOU HAD DISCUSSED NOT GIVING A REPORT AT THIS
10:42:25 TIME, HOWEVER, COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU.
10:42:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, CHIEF.
10:42:31 I'M CONCERNED, I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS SOME TYPE OF
10:42:34 RATIFICATION.
10:42:35 I GOT CALLS ABOUT JUNETEENTH NOT BEING A PART OF THE
10:42:38 RATIFICATION, AS A CLOSED HOLIDAY FOR THE CITY.
10:42:43 I JUST WATCHED MARY McLEOD BETHUNE GET THE MOST HONORABLE
10:42:47 AWARD YOU CAN GET FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN.
10:42:51 I WENT TO BETHUNE-COOKMAN COLLEGE.
10:42:54 I UNDERSTAND THE PLIGHT OF OUR PEOPLE.
10:42:57 I SAY "MY PEOPLE," 2025-68 WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE CITY HAD
10:43:05 DONE IN THE PAST.
10:43:06 I LOOK AT JUNETEENTH AS BEING A MONUMENTAL THING FOR THE
10:43:11 CITY.
10:43:12 IF THE COUNTY CAN DO IT, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DID IT, I
10:43:14 DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE NOT DOING IT.
10:43:16 THAT'S AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.
10:43:18 THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A UNION CONTRACT DEAL.
10:43:21 I SEE YOU HAVE MS. WYNN BEHIND YOU BACK THERE, I DON'T KNOW
10:43:24 WHY, BUT IT AIN'T ABOUT MS. WYNN.
10:43:27 IT'S ABOUT MY CONSTITUENTS, THAT 53% THAT I REPRESENT.
10:43:31 AND I'M VERY DISTURBED THAT THAT IS NOT CITY HALL.
10:43:34 WHAT IS THE PREMISE BEHIND NOT DOING THAT?
10:43:38 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN
10:43:40 GUDES.
10:43:40 JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:43:42 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:43:43 I DO HAVE ADMINISTRATOR WYNN WITH ME.
10:43:46 AS YOU KNOW, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ASKED
10:43:49 FOR THE CITY TO LOOK AT HAVING A POSITION AS A CHIEF
10:43:53 DIVERSITY OFFICER, WHICH MS. WYNN HOLDS THAT POSITION.
10:43:56 SO I DID ASK HER TO JOIN ME BECAUSE AS WE REPLY TO YOUR
10:44:00 QUESTION, THERE ARE MULTIPLE FACETS.
10:44:02 YOU ARE CORRECT, THERE ARE 11 CITY HOLIDAYS THAT ARE
10:44:06 CURRENTLY RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY WHERE THE CITY IS CLOSED
10:44:10 OFFICIALLY.
10:44:12 AS WE WENT INTO NEGOTIATIONS, THE GOAL WAS TO LISTEN TO OUR
10:44:16 PERSONNEL, ALL 4800 OF THEM.
10:44:19 3800 UNION MEMBERS WITHIN FOUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
10:44:23 AGREEMENTS AND LISTEN TO THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF NOT ONLY
10:44:27 JUNETEENTH AS A HOLIDAY, BUT AS ALL OF THE DIVERSITY AS IT
10:44:30 RELATES TO THEIR TIME OFF.
10:44:32 SO THAT FEEDBACK HAPPENED OVER 16 MEETINGS WHICH CONCLUDED
10:44:36 ON JUNE 30th.
10:44:38 AND MEMBERSHIP TOOK WHAT WAS CALLED A DIVERSITY EQUITY AND
10:44:41 INCLUSION DAY, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THEM TO USE A DAY OF THEIR
10:44:45 CHOICE.
10:44:45 MANY OF THEM WOULD CHOOSE JUNETEENTH IN CONJUNCTION WITH
10:44:49 THEIR OTHER FLOATING HOLIDAY TO CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAYS OF
10:44:52 THEIR CHOOSING.
10:44:53 SO THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM OUR
10:44:57 PERSONNEL, WHICH WE LISTENED TO BEFORE WE MAKE ANY OTHER
10:45:00 DECISIONS.
10:45:02 ANYTHING BEYOND THOSE DECISIONS IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD
10:45:06 WITH STAFF AS IT RELATES TO RUNNING THE BUSINESS AS A CITY.
10:45:10 AND I'M ASKING OCEA WYNN HERE, AS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY
10:45:13 AFFAIRS ADMINISTRATOR WHO, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE CITY'S
10:45:18 HISTORY, WENT TO EMANCIPATION DAY UP IN TALLAHASSEE TO
10:45:21 RECOGNIZE JUNETEENTH FROM THE STATE'S PERSPECTIVE AS WELL AS
10:45:25 JUNETEENTH AND THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS SUPPORTED THE FIRST
10:45:29 THREE CELEBRATIONS OF JUNETEENTH IN THE CITY.
10:45:32 SO I'LL LET HER EXPOUND ON THAT INFORMATION.
10:45:37 >>OCEA WYNN: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:45:39 OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
10:45:41 AFFAIRS.
10:45:42 COUNCILMAN GUDES, AS CHIEF BENNETT HAS MENTIONED, YES, I DID
10:45:47 GO TO TALLAHASSEE AND I DID REPRESENT THE CITY AND THE CITY
10:45:52 OF TAMPA IN THE STATE'S EMANCIPATION DAY, WHICH IS MAY
10:45:57 20th.
10:45:58 AND TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND TO SEE WHAT NOT ONLY TALLAHASSEE
10:46:03 HAS DONE FOR EMANCIPATION DAY AS WELL AS IN LEON COUNTY,
10:46:11 LOOKING AT THE DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION AND MAKING
10:46:15 SURE THAT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE INCLUSIVE, WE RECOGNIZE
10:46:19 THE FACT THAT BY HAVING THIS DEI DAY WOULD BE FAIR TO ALL OF
10:46:24 THE EMPLOYEES.
10:46:26 WHAT'S NOT FAIR IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING DURING OUR
10:46:31 MLK DAY.
10:46:32 WE HAVE THE MLK DAY OFF, BUT A NUMBER OF THE EMPLOYEES WHO
10:46:36 WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DAY, THEY END UP WORKING AT
10:46:43 THE END OF THE PARADE AND AT THE EVENTS BECAUSE OF THE
10:46:47 ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE.
10:46:48 SO IN HEARING FROM THE EMPLOYEES, THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR
10:46:53 COMPLAINTS FROM THAT STANDPOINT, WE FELT THAT THIS WOULD BE
10:46:56 IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL.
10:46:58 WE DO RECOGNIZE JUNETEENTH.
10:47:01 WE HAVE CELEBRATIONS.
10:47:03 WE HAVE THE RAISING OF THE FLAG ON CITY HALL.
10:47:08 WE HAD VENDOR ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE COURTYARD, SO WE DO HAVE
10:47:15 THAT RECOGNITION, BUT, AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING AT A DIVERSITY
10:47:21 INCLUSIVE DAY WHERE ALL PEOPLE CAN CELEBRATE THE DAY OF
10:47:24 THEIR CHOICE.
10:47:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME SAY THIS.
10:47:27 THANK YOU FOR GOING TO TALLAHASSEE.
10:47:29 I DON'T THINK THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I'M ASKING
10:47:32 JUNETEENTH IN THE CITY BEING OFF.
10:47:34 I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER RACE WHO HAS BEEN OPPRESSED MORE THAN
10:47:36 OUR PEOPLE.
10:47:37 AND IT IS THE DISTINCT HONOR TO HAVE THAT.
10:47:44 THE COUNTY DID IT.
10:47:45 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DECIDED IT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
10:47:47 I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:47:48 I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HOW THEY FEEL
10:47:51 ABOUT IT, TO ME, ON THE RECORD, IF THAT'S THE CASE.
10:47:54 I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH THIS NOT BEING A CLOSED HOLIDAY.
10:47:57 THAT'S JUST ME AND THE WAY I FEEL AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN, AS
10:48:02 A BLACK MAN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS REAL, REAL -- TO ME,
10:48:06 KNOWING THAT WE WERE FREED.
10:48:08 WE HAVE FREEDOMS, AND I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
10:48:11 I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF ANY OTHER COUNCILMEN HAVE ANYTHING
10:48:15 TO SAY ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT JUST BOTHERS ME.
10:48:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I COULD MAKE A STATEMENT, BEFORE COUNCIL
10:48:20 CHIMES IN, BEFORE COUNCIL CHIMES IN, COUNCILMAN GUDES, I
10:48:22 WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE A WORKSHOP
10:48:25 ON THIS.
10:48:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T NEED A WORKSHOP.
10:48:28 WE KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
10:48:33 EITHER WE DO IT OR DON'T.
10:48:34 THAT'S A WASTE OF TIME TO HAVE A WORKSHOP.
10:48:36 I WILL BE CANDID WITH YOU, SIR.
10:48:38 I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION ABOUT A WORKSHOP.
10:48:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. GUDES.
10:48:42 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:48:43 >>BILL CARLSON: COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, I AGREE WITH YOU.
10:48:48 I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DAY OFF AND I WOULD SUPPORT
10:48:52 WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO TO DO THAT.
10:48:55 I HOPE WE TELL THE FLORIDA HISTORY, BECAUSE THE FLORIDA
10:48:58 EMANCIPATION HAPPENED BEFORE TEXAS.
10:49:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: EXACTLY.
10:49:01 >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH YOU.
10:49:04 THANK YOU.
10:49:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:49:05 >>LUIS VIERA: OF COURSE, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, SIR.
10:49:08 AND I WOULD SUPPORT ANY MOTION YOU'D MAKE AND STRONGLY
10:49:10 SUPPORT HAVING THAT DAY OFF.
10:49:12 OF COURSE, I'D AGREE WITH YOU.
10:49:13 THANK YOU.
10:49:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:49:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT YOU.
10:49:18 LET ME TELL YOU WHY.
10:49:20 WE CELEBRATE AND HONOR A GIANT AMONGST MEN WHO IS DR. MARTIN
10:49:26 LUTHER KING.
10:49:27 ACKNOWLEDGED AS A FEDERAL HOLIDAY AND WE KNOW EVERYTHING
10:49:30 THAT GOES WITH THAT DAY OFF, PARADE.
10:49:32 THINGS ARE CLOSED AND SHUT DOWN.
10:49:34 BUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF JUNETEENTH, THE LIBERATION OR THE
10:49:37 EMANCIPATION OF ENSLAVED PEOPLE, OPPRESSED FOR HUNDREDS OF
10:49:41 YEARS, I MEAN, AT THE VERY LEAST, IT DESERVES THE HOLIDAY.
10:49:46 I THINK IT'S A NO-BRAINER.
10:49:48 I'D SUPPORT YOU IF YOU MAKE A MOTION IN WHATEVER SENSE.
10:49:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:49:53 >>LYNN HURTAK: I 100% AGREE.
10:49:55 MLK DAY HAS ABSOLUTELY NO -- IT'S NOT THE SAME.
10:50:02 I WAS NOT THE SAME HOLIDAY.
10:50:06 IT COMPLETELY LOOKS AT A DIFFERENT POINT AND WE SHOULD BE
10:50:09 CELEBRATING, NOT ONLY CELEBRATING THE EMANCIPATION, BUT
10:50:13 EXPOUNDING ON WHAT THE CITY IS ALREADY DOING, SHARING, DOING
10:50:17 MORE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND EVERYTHING AROUND IT.
10:50:22 SO I 100% SUPPORT YOU IN THAT.
10:50:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:50:30 I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL IS RIGHT AND JUST GOT TO MARCH
10:50:34 FORWARD.
10:50:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'LL MAKE A MOTION NOW, SIR.
10:50:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CAN'T NOW.
10:50:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'LL WAIT UNTIL THE END.
10:50:42 >>JOHN BENNETT: MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I --
10:50:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO RIGHT AHEAD, CHIEF.
10:50:47 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU.
10:50:49 I APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK.
10:50:50 WE DID BRING BACK THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE PERSONNEL.
10:50:52 AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT PRIOR TO THE RATIFICATIONS OF TWO
10:50:58 OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS, WHICH BOTH WERE
10:51:00 OVER 98% IN AGREEMENT WITH THE DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND
10:51:05 INCLUSION HOLIDAY TO CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAY OF THEIR
10:51:07 CHOOSING, THE AMOUNT OF THAT THAT TURNED INTO THE BUDGET IS
10:51:10 $4 MILLION.
10:51:11 TO CLOSE THE CITY COSTS $1.2 MILLION PER HOLIDAY.
10:51:16 SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU SEE THE BUDGET,
10:51:19 BASED ON THE MOTION THAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE IN THERE.
10:51:22 THAT'S WHY THE DEI DAY SPREAD ACROSS THE ENTIRE YEAR FOR THE
10:51:26 DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION OF ALL PEOPLE WHO WANT TO
10:51:29 CELEBRATE ALL HOLIDAYS IS ALLOWABLE.
10:51:31 ALSO, WHAT MS. WYNN TALKED ABOUT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO TAKE OFF
10:51:35 THE DAY OF THEIR CHOOSING WITHOUT HAVING TO WORK A SPECIAL
10:51:38 EVENT WAS PART OF THE COLLECTIVE DECISION OF THE 4800
10:51:42 EMPLOYEES THAT SPOKE TO US.
10:51:43 THANK YOU.
10:51:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF BENNETT, ARE YOU GOING TO STAY WITH US
10:51:51 OR GIVE A REPORT OR CAN YOU FIELD ANY MORE QUESTIONS THAT
10:51:54 MIGHT BE ASKED?
10:51:55 >>JOHN BENNETT: I'M STANDING BY TO HELP SUPPORT COUNCIL AS
10:51:58 ALWAYS.
10:51:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
10:51:59 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF BENNETT?
10:52:01 LET'S MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.
10:52:06 MS. FEELEY.
10:52:12 >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:52:13 ABBYE FEELEY, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR, DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
10:52:17 MANAGEMENT.
10:52:17 THIS MORNING, ITEM NUMBER 4 IS A PURCHASE FOR 2.2 ACRES OVER
10:52:24 IN EAST TAMPA.
10:52:26 I DO HAVE A MAP JUST TO SHOW YOU THIS MORNING.
10:52:35 AS YOU ARE AWARE, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT RECEIVED
10:52:40 16 MILLION IN ARPA FUNDS.
10:52:43 AND PART OF THOSE FUNDS MAY BE USED FOR PROPERTY
10:52:47 ACQUISITION.
10:52:48 AND THE CITY, MUCH LIKE ANY OTHER ENTITY, WE ARE LOOKING TO
10:52:52 MAKE SOME ACQUISITIONS IN ORDER TO THEN USE THOSE PROPERTIES
10:52:55 FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:52:57 AND THIS WAS A PROPERTY THAT WE'VE ASSEMBLED THROUGH SEVERAL
10:53:02 ENTITIES.
10:53:03 THERE WERE THREE AND NOW THERE ARE TWO THAT OWN THESE FIVE
10:53:06 PARCELS, AND WE WILL BE WORKING ONCE THIS GETS APPROVED BY
10:53:12 COUNCIL AND WOULD GO UNDER CONTRACT, WE WOULD THEN DO THE
10:53:15 ENVIRONMENTAL AND ENSURE THAT THIS PROPERTY IS SAFE TO MOVE
10:53:18 FORWARD ON FOR A PURCHASE, AND THEN WE WILL -- THIS PROPERTY
10:53:22 CAN YIELD ABOUT 75 TO 100 UNITS.
10:53:25 WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY VACATING TWO OF THE STREETS
10:53:30 THERE IN ORDER TO AGGREGATE THIS INTO ONE WHOLE PROPERTY AND
10:53:36 PROCEED, WE WOULD PUT IT OUT FOR RFP FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR
10:53:39 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:53:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:53:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR THAT, MS. FEELEY.
10:53:45 ONLY QUESTION I HAVE.
10:53:46 I NOTICED THE ADDRESS, AND IT DOES FALL WITHIN THE EAST
10:53:49 TAMPA CRA ZONE, CORRECT?
10:53:51 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT IS CORRECT.
10:53:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: JUST WONDERING IN THE FUTURE, IN MY
10:53:54 OPINION, WE NEED TO BE PARTNERING WITH THE CRA WITH SOME
10:53:57 DOLLARS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE CRA COULD HAVE PROBABLY HELPED
10:54:00 WITH SOME OF THIS.
10:54:00 THEY NEED TO MOVE SOME OF THAT MONEY.
10:54:03 I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD HELPING HAND THAT THEY BE A PART
10:54:06 OF SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING AND PROBABLY COULD
10:54:09 HELP US WITH SOME FINANCIALS WITH THIS PROJECT.
10:54:12 I'M JUST HOPING IN THE FUTURE WE LOOK AT THE CRA, WE LOOK AT
10:54:16 ATTAINING CITY PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CRA ZONES, ESPECIALLY
10:54:19 HOUSING, THAT WE LOOK TO THE CRA TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS
10:54:21 SO THEY CAN SEE THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING AS WELL.
10:54:25 NOT JUST A CITY PROJECT.
10:54:27 THAT TIF DOLLAR IN THAT AREA IS STILL HELPING TO REDEVELOP.
10:54:30 >>ABBYE FEELEY: UNDERSTOOD, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:54:34 RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE -- AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMING AT THE
10:54:37 HOUSING CRISIS FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, AS
10:54:41 MANY AS WE CAN TRY.
10:54:42 AND ONE OF THESE IS ALSO LOOKING AT THE INCORPORATION OF
10:54:45 SOME OF THE LANDS WE'RE ACQUIRING FOR THE COMMUNITY LAND
10:54:50 TRUST AND OTHER THINGS.
10:54:51 SO RIGHT NOW, OF COURSE, THAT IS ALWAYS OUR INTENTION TO
10:54:55 PARTNER ON THOSE THINGS.
10:54:56 THE OTHER THING IS WE DO HAVE AN EXPENDITURE DEADLINE ON THE
10:55:00 ARPA MONEY AND SOME OF THIS IS TIMING.
10:55:03 SITTING AT THE TABLE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PERSON TRYING TO
10:55:06 ACQUIRE PROPERTY, WE'RE WORKING HARD TO ENSURE THAT THOSE
10:55:11 DEALS ARE GOING THROUGH.
10:55:12 WE'RE GETTING A COMPETITIVE BID IN THERE AND WE'RE AT THE
10:55:17 TABLE TRYING TO MAKE ACQUISITIONS, BUT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM
10:55:20 AND WE WILL COORDINATE WITH THE CRA.
10:55:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:55:24 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY IF I MISSED THIS, BUT IS THE INTENTION
10:55:28 OF THE CITY TO PUT THIS LAND IN A LAND TRUST OR SOME OTHER
10:55:33 KIND OF LEASE AND THEN PUT IT OUT FOR RFP SO ALL THE
10:55:36 DIFFERENT NONPROFITS AND FOR PROFITS CAN BID ON IT TO PUT
10:55:39 AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON IT OR WILL THE CITY DEVELOP IT ITSELF?
10:55:43 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THIS WILL GO OUT FOR AN RFP.
10:55:46 RIGHT NOW, I AM USING PART ARPA MONEY AND PART CDBG MONEY
10:55:51 THAT WE HAD THAT NEEDED TO BE USED BECAUSE WE'RE UNDER --
10:55:55 WE'RE WORKING ON A COUPLE OF OTHER DEALS WITH OUR ARPA
10:55:58 MONEY.
10:55:58 SO I HAVE A CALL INTO HUD.
10:56:00 WE'RE DISCUSSING THE UTILIZATION OF CDBG FUNDS AND WHETHER
10:56:04 OR NOT IF SOMETHING IS PURCHASED WITH THEM THAT THEY ARE
10:56:06 ELIGIBLE FOR THE INCLUSION IN THE TRUST.
10:56:08 SO I'M LOOKING AT EVERY AVENUE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THAT RIGHT
10:56:11 NOW.
10:56:12 I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER BECAUSE KAYON IS WORKING
10:56:16 WITH HUD ON THAT.
10:56:17 IF NOT, WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT SHIFTING SOME OF THE FUNDING
10:56:20 SOURCE IN ORDER TO SEE IF IT COULD GO INTO THE CLT.
10:56:24 BUT RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T GIVE YOU --
10:56:26 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO QUICK THOUGHTS.
10:56:28 ONE IS WE'VE DISCUSSED IN WORKSHOPS AND OTHER AREAS THAT WE
10:56:32 HAVE VERY LIMITED RESOURCES AND THERE ARE LOTS OF PARTNERS
10:56:36 IN THE COMMUNITY THAT CAN LEVERAGE.
10:56:39 THERE ARE MANY PARTNERS, NONPROFIT AND FOR PROFIT, WHO HAVE
10:56:42 BEEN FRUSTRATED IN THE PAST, NOT SO MUCH THE LAST COUPLE OF
10:56:44 YEARS BUT BEFORE THAT, THAT THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED A SEAT AT
10:56:47 THE TABLE OR THE RFP PROCESS WAS TOO SHORT.
10:56:51 WHEN WE STARTED THREE YEARS AGO AND YOU WEREN'T BACK YET, WE
10:56:55 HAD ONE PROJECT THAT CAME BEFORE US, A BID FOR THREE EMPTY
10:56:58 LOTS IN EAST TAMPA THAT WE WERE GIVING AWAY AND ONLY ONE
10:57:01 DEVELOPER BID ON IT.
10:57:02 I CALLED CDC AND SOME OF THE OTHERS AND ASKED DID YOU KNOW
10:57:08 ABOUT THIS?
10:57:09 AND THEY SAID NO.
10:57:10 I THINK THE MORE RESOURCES WE CAN BRING TO THE TABLE, THE
10:57:13 MORE COMPETITIVENESS, THE MORE OPTIONS PEOPLE BRING TO THE
10:57:16 TABLE, HOPEFULLY GROUPS LIKE THAT CAN BRING OTHER RESOURCES
10:57:19 FROM OUTSIDE TO HELP ADD TO THE LIMITED RESOURCE WE HAVE.
10:57:22 BUT APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING AGGRESSIVE AND CREATIVE ON
10:57:25 THIS.
10:57:26 THANK YOU.
10:57:26 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU.
10:57:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:57:29 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU WANT TO READ THE SUBSTITUTE?
10:57:35 I'M SORRY.
10:57:38 GO RIGHT AHEAD.
10:57:40 >>RON WIGGINTON: RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:57:42 I WANTED TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT THIS REQUIRES A
10:57:45 SUPERMAJORITY VOTE DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT EXCEEDS THE
10:57:48 AVERAGE OF THE TWO APPRAISALS.
10:57:49 THANK YOU.
10:57:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:57:58 >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:57:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:58:02 SECONDED BY -- AND THAT WAS THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION,
10:58:05 CORRECT?
10:58:05 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:58:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
10:58:08 MANISCALCO.
10:58:09 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:58:09 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
10:58:15 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:58:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY.
10:58:18 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, MS. TRAVIS.
10:58:20 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NICOLE TRAVIS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
10:58:25 OPPORTUNITY.
10:58:26 ITEM 5 BEFORE YOU IS FOR THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY THAT'S
10:58:29 ABOUT A QUARTER ACRE WITHIN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
10:58:32 THIS CAME BEFORE YOU AS A CRA BOARD.
10:58:34 YOU HEARD FROM THE CHANNELSIDE CAC CHAIRPERSON.
10:58:38 THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO THE PORT OF TAMPA'S
10:58:46 PARKING GARAGE.
10:58:48 IT IS GOING TO BE USED FOR GREENSPACE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS
10:58:52 A NEED WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OF THE CRA.
10:58:56 ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP AT THE CRA MEETING WAS HOW
10:59:04 MUCH GREENSPACE DO WE HAVE IN THE AREA?
10:59:06 WE'VE LOOKED AT LEVEL OF SERVICE WITHIN THE DISTRICT, EVEN
10:59:10 THOUGH IT'S NOT MEANT TO LOOK -- LEVEL OF SERVICE IS NOT
10:59:13 REALLY MEASURED ON A NEIGHBORHOOD PERSPECTIVE, BUT WE CAN
10:59:16 LOOK AT IT FROM A RADIUS PERSPECTIVE.
10:59:18 SO THE MAP THAT'S ON THE ELMO SHOWS OTHER SMALL POCKET PARKS
10:59:23 THAT YOU HAVE IN THE AREA.
10:59:24 AGAIN, THIS IS A NEED WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT,
10:59:29 ADDRESSED IN THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND IS BEFORE
10:59:32 YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
10:59:33 IT DOES REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE BECAUSE IT'S HIGHER
10:59:36 THAN THE AVERAGE OF TWO APPRAISALS.
10:59:38 I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
10:59:43 >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID SOME OF THIS AT CRA, BUT JUST SO THE
10:59:46 PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS, THIS IS COMING FROM CRA MONEY WHICH
10:59:49 CAN'T BE SPENT OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.
10:59:52 IF WE PUT A CAP ON THAT CRA DISTRICT, WHICH I PROPOSED IN
10:59:56 THE PAST, THAT MONEY POTENTIALLY COULD BE USED IN OTHER
10:59:58 AREAS.
10:59:59 BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO DO THAT.
11:00:02 I THINK IT'S OUTRAGEOUSLY EXPENSIVE.
11:00:08 WE NEED MORE GREENSPACE.
11:00:09 WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE PLAN.
11:00:11 LISTENING TO THE CONSTITUENTS IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT,
11:00:14 THROUGH THE CRA WE UPDATED THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN, AND I'M
11:00:17 TOLD NOT BY A VOTE BY ANYBODY, BUT FROM SOME AD HOC
11:00:21 CONSTITUENTS THERE THAT IF WE SUPPORT SOME OF THESE
11:00:23 INITIATIVES AND SUPPORT THEIR PLANS, THAT THEY WILL COME
11:00:26 BACK AND SUPPORT US TO PUT A CAP ON THAT CRA DISTRICT
11:00:32 EARLIER THAN THE EXPIRATION DATE.
11:00:34 OTHERWISE, I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I THINK THAT
11:00:37 IT'S NOT FAIR THAT OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY CAN'T GET ACCESS
11:00:41 TO THIS KIND OF MONEY.
11:00:42 THAT KIND OF MONEY COULD BE TRANSFORMATIVE IN ANOTHER AREA.
11:00:45 IF THIS MONEY WAS INSTEAD IN THE GENERAL FUND THINK ABOUT
11:00:48 WHAT YOU COULD DO WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR PARKS THAT ARE
11:00:50 FALLING APART AND EVEN IN SOUTH TAMPA.
11:00:53 SIDEWALKS THAT WE NEED TO DEVELOP.
11:00:54 BUT RIGHT NOW, THE MONEY IS IN CHANNEL DISTRICT AND WE NEED
11:00:57 TO KEEP OUR PROMISES TO THEM TO HELP IMPLEMENT THEIR PLANS,
11:01:01 AND I HOPE THEY WILL COME BACK AND HELP SUPPORT US SO THAT
11:01:04 SOMETIME EARLIER THAN THE EXPIRATION DATE WE CAN MOVE BIG
11:01:07 AMOUNTS OF MONEY BEING HELD IN CHANNEL DISTRICT BACK TO THE
11:01:10 REST OF THE CITY TO WORK ON MUCH-NEEDED PROJECTS WITH THE
11:01:13 LIMITED MONEY WE HAVE.
11:01:14 THANK YOU.
11:01:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THAT WAS A STATEMENT.
11:01:18 THAT ISN'T ANYTHING LEGALLY BINDING, CORRECT?
11:01:21 IN YOUR STATEMENT ABOUT THE CRA -- I MEAN, THE HOMEOWNERS
11:01:27 ASSOCIATION --
11:01:27 >>BILL CARLSON: I CAN'T LEGALLY BIND ANYBODY.
11:01:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WELL, YOU JUST MADE A STATEMENT AND I WANTED
11:01:32 TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT WASN'T LEGALLY BINDING.
11:01:35 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:01:37 >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALSO THINK THIS IS AN EGREGIOUS AMOUNT OF
11:01:43 MONEY.
11:01:43 I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR PARKS AND GREENSPACE IN THE AREA,
11:01:48 BUT THE AREA ALSO NEEDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:01:50 I DO KNOW THAT'S UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CRA AND I ALSO --
11:01:58 I WOULD REALLY LIKE FUTURE -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE IN
11:02:03 AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE FUTURE.
11:02:06 I WILL SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE CHANNELSIDE, THE CRA DOES WANT
11:02:11 IT.
11:02:12 THE CAC.
11:02:14 I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:02:16 I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN TRANSFORM OR MOVE MORE OF THAT MONEY
11:02:21 THAT'S NO LONGER -- OR IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THIS,
11:02:27 THEN WE REALLY OUGHT TO BE SEEING WHERE ELSE THAT MONEY CAN
11:02:30 BE USED, IF THEY ARE WILLING TO SUNSET EARLY OR TRANSFER
11:02:34 SOME OF THE MONEY, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
11:02:36 BUT I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE MORE FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE
11:02:41 HOUSING IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE AS THAT AREA GROWS, AFFORDABLE
11:02:47 HOUSING IS A CRISIS IN CHANNELSIDE.
11:02:49 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, MA'AM.
11:02:50 I'LL TAKE THAT BACK TO THE CAC.
11:02:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:02:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS MY DISTRICT.
11:02:57 AND IT IS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT I KNOW THAT -- THEY ARE
11:03:01 ASKING, BUT I DO KNOW THIS COUNCIL DID PASS -- THE CRA IN
11:03:05 REFERENCE TO MR. CARLSON'S MOTION, AT THE CRA, TO MAKE SURE
11:03:08 MORE MONEY IS SPENT ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:03:10 SO I THINK IN THE FUTURE, IN THE MONEY THEY HAVE LEFT, IT
11:03:15 NEEDS TO BE CONCENTRATED NOW ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NOT DOWN
11:03:18 THE ROAD LOOKING AT, NOW, SO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CRA
11:03:24 SAYING WE WANT TO SEE THAT MONEY NOW IN CHANNELSIDE UTILIZED
11:03:28 TO HELP AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:03:31 I THINK THAT IS THE NEED RIGHT NOW.
11:03:33 WE WANT TO BALANCE CITY.
11:03:35 CHANNELSIDE IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, BUT EVERYONE NEEDS TO LIVE
11:03:38 EVERYWHERE.
11:03:39 I'M HOPING NOW THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO MOVE AND KICK THAT CAN
11:03:42 DOWN THE ROAD NOW TO START PUTTING MORE MONEY IN AFFORDABLE
11:03:45 HOUSING.
11:03:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I INQUIRE, COUNCIL, WITH STAFF, WERE
11:03:52 ANY OF THESE LAND SALES OR CONTRACTS PUT TOGETHER WHEN THEY
11:03:56 WERE COMPILED, WERE THEY PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN ADVANCE OF
11:04:00 TODAY?
11:04:00 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THEY LOOKED AT IT AS A BODY AS THE CRA
11:04:03 BOARD.
11:04:03 THIS WAS APPROVED AS CRA BOARD AND IT WAS APPROVED
11:04:06 UNANIMOUSLY.
11:04:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
11:04:08 BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE COUNCIL CLEAR THAT THIS
11:04:11 RESOLUTION, ONCE IT'S PASSED, IT'S SIGNED BY THE MAYOR, IT
11:04:15 IS BINDING.
11:04:17 SO IN TERMS OF WHETHER YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS
11:04:20 WORKSHOPPED IN ADVANCE OR HAVE NOTICE IN ADVANCE, NUMBER 4,
11:04:25 JUST SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT OPTION SO YOU KNOW HOW THAT MONEY
11:04:27 IS BEING SPENT.
11:04:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:04:29 >>BILL CARLSON: WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE CRA, BUT JUST
11:04:32 SO YOU KNOW AND ANYBODY WHO IS JUST WATCHING, IF YOU LOOK AT
11:04:36 THE GOOGLE MAPS OR SOMETHING OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT,
11:04:39 THERE'S REALLY NO LAND THERE.
11:04:40 THE ONLY LAND LEFT IS THE PORT LAND WHICH IS THE WORKING
11:04:44 MARITIME LAND AND WE NEED TO PROTECT THAT.
11:04:46 THIS IS A SMALL POSTAGE-STAMP SIZE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S
11:04:52 NOT ALREADY OWNED BY A DEVELOPER.
11:04:53 THE REST OF THE PROPERTIES THERE ARE OWNED BY DEVELOPERS.
11:04:56 FOR US TO BUY ONE, STILL ONE PIECE TRYING TO BUY THROUGH THE
11:04:59 CRA, FOR US TO BUY THEM, WE'RE TAKING AWAY FROM DEVELOPMENT,
11:05:02 VERY VALUABLE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE THERE.
11:05:04 THERE'S JUST NO PROPERTY WHERE WE CAN BUILD PARKS.
11:05:09 AND SO AS I UNDERSTAND, THIS WAS A STAGING AREA OR SOMETHING
11:05:12 THE PORT WAS USING.
11:05:13 IT'S NOT WORKING MARITIME LAND, OTHERWISE I WOULD BE AGAINST
11:05:16 IT.
11:05:16 AND IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THE PORT HAS TO BE ABLE TO
11:05:21 SELL IT AT A MARKET RATE.
11:05:22 BUT WE'RE SUPPORTING PARKS AND WE'RE SUPPORTING THE PLAN IN
11:05:28 THAT AREA.
11:05:29 AFTER THIS, THERE'S MAYBE ONE OTHER PARCEL AND THEN THERE
11:05:32 WILL BE NO OTHER LAND, UNLESS SOMEBODY IS REALLY GENEROUS
11:05:35 WITH US.
11:05:35 THANK YOU.
11:05:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:05:38 I HAVE TO ASK THIS QUESTION.
11:05:45 EVERYBODY CONCERNED.
11:05:46 HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS, CRA, BOARD, EVERYBODY CONCERNED IS
11:05:50 IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS.
11:05:51 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, THIS WAS FULLY SUPPORTED BY THE CAC.
11:05:55 WHEN WE PRESENTED IT TO THE CRA BOARD, YOU HEARD FROM THE
11:05:58 CAC CHAIRPERSON AND IT WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY AT THE CAC AND
11:06:03 AT THE CRA BOARD.
11:06:05 AND SINCE YOUR APPROVAL AT THE CRA BOARD MEETING, WE HAVE
11:06:08 NOT HAD ANY FEEDBACK.
11:06:11 I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE PURCHASE OF THIS
11:06:13 PROPERTY.
11:06:14 YOUR POINTS REGARDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN THE CHANNEL
11:06:16 DISTRICT, IT IS IN THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN OF THE
11:06:20 CHANNEL DISTRICT.
11:06:21 I WILL TAKE THAT CHALLENGE BACK TO THE CAC.
11:06:24 YOU'LL BE APPROVING A BUDGET COMING UP FOR THE UPCOMING
11:06:28 FISCAL YEAR, AND SO WHILE WE MAY NOT HAVE PROGRAMS IN PLACE
11:06:31 NOW, WE COULD TAKE THE NEXT YEAR TO BEGIN TO RESEARCH HOW WE
11:06:35 CAN TRY TO WORK WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPERS ON AFFORDABLE
11:06:37 HOUSING IN FUTURE BUDGETS, MONEY ALLOCATED FOR THAT.
11:06:42 YOU ARE THE APPROVERS OF THAT BUDGET.
11:06:45 SO IF THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT TO SEE THE MONEY SPENT, IT'S UP
11:06:49 TO YOU.
11:06:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FANTASTIC.
11:06:51 BEFORE I ASK FOR A MOTION ON THE RESOLUTION, BEFORE THIS
11:06:54 AREA, CAC IS SUNSETTED, I'M HOPING THAT THERE WILL BE SOME
11:07:00 MONEY RAISED FOR SOME SORT OF LAND PURCHASE OR LAND LEASE
11:07:06 FOR A FIRE DEPARTMENT, FOR A FIRE STATION, EXCUSE ME.
11:07:10 HAVING SAID THAT, IS THERE A MOTION ON THE RESOLUTION?
11:07:12 MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:07:15 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:07:17 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:07:17 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
11:07:22 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
11:07:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:07:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST FOR THE RECORD, IF WE
11:07:28 COULD CALL THE FILE NUMBER.
11:07:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT WAS FILE NUMBER BZP22-75277.
11:07:38 IT WAS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:07:40 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, PW 22-75551.
11:07:54 >>BRAD BAIRD: GOOD MORNING.
11:07:55 BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:07:58 BEFORE I GET INTO ITEMS 6, 7, AND 8, I HAVE SOME VERY SAD
11:08:02 NEWS TO SHARE, THAT MR. DAVID L. TIPPIN PASSED AWAY
11:08:06 YESTERDAY MORNING.
11:08:08 AS YOU KNOW, HE WAS A GIANT IN THE WATER INDUSTRY.
11:08:11 HE WAS OUR DIRECTOR OF THE WATER DEPARTMENT FOR 24 YEARS.
11:08:14 WE NAMED THE TREATMENT PLANT AFTER HIM.
11:08:17 PLEASE, KEEP HIS FAMILY IN YOUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS.
11:08:21 THANK YOU.
11:08:22 ITEM 6 IS A PROPOSED AGREEMENT WITH KIEWIT INFRASTRUCTURE
11:08:33 SOUTH IN THE AMOUNT OF ALMOST $8 MILLION.
11:08:36 TO PROVIDE WATER MAIN REPLACEMENTS VIA PIPE BURSTING IN THE
11:08:44 FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:08:44 THIS IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE FOUNDATIONS FOR TAMPA'S
11:08:47 NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT.
11:08:49 WITH THAT, I'LL STOP AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:08:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:08:54 >>BILL CARLSON: I ALWAYS BRING UP BRANDING.
11:08:57 I THINK THIS BRANDING IS REALLY CONFUSING TO THE PUBLIC, THE
11:08:59 NEIGHBORHOODS AND OTHERS.
11:09:01 THEY THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS DIRECTLY HELPING
11:09:04 NEIGHBORHOODS AND INDIRECTLY THIS IS, BUT REALLY IT'S
11:09:06 STORMWATER AND WATER PROJECTS PUT UNDER A NEW BRAND.
11:09:10 I WISH FOR CONSISTENCY WE COULD JUST SAY IT'S PART OF THE
11:09:13 STORMWATER PROJECT OR THE PIPES PROJECT, AND IF SOMETHING IS
11:09:16 FOR NEIGHBORHOODS, THEN IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT
11:09:18 NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ASKING FOR, NOT A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
11:09:22 CAUSED A LOT OF COMPLAINTS IN THE SHORT TERM WITH
11:09:25 NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:09:25 CAN I JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION, MR. BAIRD, FOR THIS AND THESE
11:09:30 OTHER BIG ITEMS, BEFORE WE GET TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, NONE
11:09:33 OF THEM SAY PURE OR TOILET TO TAP IN THEM.
11:09:37 AND OUR COUNCIL RULE IS THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO DISCLOSE THAT
11:09:40 IN THE SUMMARY.
11:09:40 CAN I ASSUME CORRECTLY THAT NONE OF THESE ITEMS COMING
11:09:44 BEFORE US TODAY OUTSIDE THE CONSENT AGENDA, NONE OF THEM ARE
11:09:47 FOR THE PURE PROJECT, CORRECT?
11:09:49 >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT IS CORRECT, COUNCILMAN.
11:09:51 >>BILL CARLSON: AND NONE OF THEM ARE FOR THAT OFFICE
11:09:55 BUILDING THAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT IS PROPOSING.
11:09:57 >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT IS CORRECT.
11:09:59 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
11:09:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:10:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. BAIRD, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
11:10:04 EBO NUMBERS.
11:10:07 >>BRAD BAIRD: FOR THIS ITEM, THE EBO GOAL WAS SET BY THE EBO
11:10:14 DIVISION AT 9% COMBINED, 3% BBE PARTICIPATION AND 6% SLBE
11:10:23 PARTICIPATION.
11:10:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHY SO LOW AT 9% FOR A PROJECT OF ALMOST $8
11:10:26 MILLION?
11:10:27 >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR IS A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM
11:10:30 PRICE JUST FOR PIPE BURSTING, WHICH IS A SPECIALIZED
11:10:34 SERVICE.
11:10:36 SO THIS IS WATER SERVICES FOR ALL FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND
11:10:39 IT'S CALLED AN EARLY WORKS GMP.
11:10:41 AND THERE'S LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES.
11:10:43 THAT'S WHY THIS PERCENTAGE IS LOW, BUT I WILL MAKE IT UP
11:10:48 WITH NUMBER 8 THAT'S COMING UP.
11:10:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
11:10:53 WE'RE STILL NOT DOING IT YET.
11:10:55 I SAID WHEN WE HAVE THESE LOW NUMBERS, WE NEED TO INDICATE
11:10:58 IN THE SUMMARY WHY THOSE NUMBERS ARE LOW.
11:11:01 IF WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN DO THE JOB, THEN IT NEEDS
11:11:04 TO BE INDICATED, NOT JUST THAT LITTLE VERB YOU PUT IN THERE.
11:11:08 I WANT TO KNOW AND COUNCIL WANTS TO KNOW AND PUBLIC WANTS TO
11:11:11 KNOW, WHY IS THE NUMBER LOW WITH AN AMOUNT OF $8 MILLION?
11:11:15 THAT NEEDS TO BE SPECIFIED.
11:11:17 I ASKED TIME AND TIME AGAIN FOR THAT TO BE PUT IN THERE.
11:11:22 >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, SIR.
11:11:23 WE DID SAY IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THEY ARE SPECIALIZED
11:11:25 SERVICES.
11:11:26 MAYBE WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB EXPLAINING --
11:11:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.
11:11:31 I HOPE NOW YOU WILL MAKE SURE YOURSELF AND MR. HART START
11:11:36 INDICATING THAT IN THE REPORT.
11:11:38 >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, SIR.
11:11:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
11:11:40 THANK YOU, SIR.
11:11:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:11:42 ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE --
11:11:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:11:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PW 22-75551.
11:11:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:11:54 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:11:55 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:11:57 >> AYE.
11:11:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OPPOSED?
11:11:58 THANK YOU.
11:11:59 FILE NUMBER PW 22-75555, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7.
11:12:07 >>BRAD BAIRD: ITEM NUMBER 7 IS TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL YEAR TO
11:12:12 AN EXISTING CONTRACT FOR CITYWIDE METER HYDRANT AND VALVE
11:12:21 INSTALLATION AND REPLACEMENT SERVICES WITH DALLAS 1
11:12:27 CORPORATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $5.6 MILLION.
11:12:29 EBO PARTICIPATION IS SO FAR IN THE CONTRACT, THE LAST YEAR,
11:12:36 THEY HAVE ACHIEVED 12.3% WMBE PARTICIPATION, BREAKING DOWN
11:12:41 INTO 8.9% BBE AND 3.4% ASIAN BUSINESS ENTERPRISE.
11:12:48 AND FOR THE RENEWAL, HOWEVER, WE HAVE SET AN OVERALL
11:12:53 UTILIZATION GOAL OF 25%.
11:12:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
11:12:58 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:13:00 >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS FOR BEING
11:13:03 ABLE TO REAPPROVE THIS WITHOUT ANY ESCALATION.
11:13:05 IT'S REALLY RARE THAT WE ARE GETTING ANYTHING IN FRONT OF US
11:13:09 THAT ISN'T ESCALATING.
11:13:11 WHATEVER WORK YOU'RE DOING WITH THE COMPANY IN ORDER TO KEEP
11:13:14 COSTS LOW, WE APPRECIATE.
11:13:16 >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
11:13:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:13:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:13:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:13:24 SECONDED -- EXCUSE ME, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:13:26 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:13:27 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:13:28 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
11:13:30 THANK YOU.
11:13:31 FILE NUMBER PW 22-75597, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.
11:13:38 >>BRAD BAIRD: ITEM NUMBER 8 IS A $6.1 MILLION --
11:13:44 $6.8 MILLION AGREEMENT FOR DESIGN SERVICES WITH KOKOLAKIS
11:13:50 CONTRACTING IN CONNECTION WITH RELOCATING SOLID WASTE
11:13:53 FACILITIES FROM SPRUCE STREET TO 34th STREET.
11:13:57 IN THIS ONE, I DO BELIEVE I TOLD SEVERAL OF YOU THAT WE
11:14:01 HAVE, I THINK, SET A RECORD FOR DESIGN SERVICES IN ACHIEVING
11:14:06 65% EBO PARTICIPATION.
11:14:10 BECAUSE IT IS SO HIGH, I'M GOING TO READ OFF THE BREAKDOWN
11:14:13 OF HISPANIC BUSINESS ENTERPRISE OF 39.5%.
11:14:17 BLACK BUSINESS ENTERPRISE OF 21.7%.
11:14:20 WOMEN BUSINESS ENTERPRISE AT 1.1.
11:14:23 AND SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE AT 2.7, TOTALING 65%.
11:14:28 [ APPLAUSE ]
11:14:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
11:14:32 EVERYBODY GETTING A PIECE OF THE PIE.
11:14:35 >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
11:14:38 >> SO MOVED.
11:14:39 >> SECOND.
11:14:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:14:41 >>BILL CARLSON: A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC SAID THAT THERE WAS
11:14:44 NO BID SHEET CONNECTED TO THIS.
11:14:48 A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IN PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING SAID
11:14:53 THERE WAS NO BID SHEET CONNECTED TO THIS, NO EXPLANATION OF
11:14:56 THE BIDDING PROCESS.
11:14:57 CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT?
11:14:58 AND CONGRATS ON THE MBE.
11:15:01 >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, THANK YOU.
11:15:01 IT WAS A COMPETITIVE SELECTION VIA THE CCNA PROCESS.
11:15:02 IT IS A DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT.
11:15:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:15:10 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:15:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
11:15:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR?
11:15:18 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
11:15:20 THANK YOU.
11:15:21 >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:15:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, T 22-75752.
11:15:40 >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
11:15:42 VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT HERE TO ADDRESS
11:15:45 ITEM NUMBER 9.
11:15:47 ITEM NUMBER 9 IS IN AGREEMENT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE
11:15:53 FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION.
11:15:56 IT'S A GRANT AGREEMENT THAT OUTLINES $24 MILLION IN GRANT
11:16:03 FUNDING TO REBUILD OR TO BUILD, RATHER, THE WESTERN PORTION
11:16:08 OF THE RIVERWALK.
11:16:13 THIS CONNECTION GOES FROM THE PLATT BRIDGE ALL THE WAY UP
11:16:17 NORTH CLOSE TO COLUMBUS DRIVE, INCLUDES THE PARALLEL
11:16:22 FACILITY, WALK-BIKE FACILITY WITH SEPARATED BICYCLE LANES ON
11:16:27 ROME AVENUE FROM PLATT ALL THE WAY TO COLUMBUS.
11:16:31 THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT IS TO IMPROVE BICYCLE-PEDESTRIAN
11:16:36 CONNECTIONS ACROSS BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH SIDES OF THE
11:16:40 INTERSTATE AND GET THEM BETTER CONNECTED WITH THE OVERALL
11:16:43 DOWNTOWN AND URBAN CORE WHERE WE'VE SEEN SIGNIFICANT GROWTH.
11:16:47 THIS PROJECT WOULD BENEFIT WEST TAMPA SIGNIFICANTLY.
11:16:51 IT WILL BENEFIT NORTH HYDE PARK.
11:16:53 IT WILL BENEFIT PORTIONS OF SOUTH TAMPA EAST OF HYDE PARK AS
11:16:58 WELL.
11:16:59 NOT TO MENTION THE RIVERWALK FACILITY ALONG THE RIVER FROM
11:17:06 UT AND SOUTH OF THERE AND ALL THE WAY UP TO THE COLUMBUS
11:17:11 AREA.
11:17:12 THIS PROJECT SIGNIFICANTLY EXPANDS ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION
11:17:16 ACROSS THE CITY BY POTENTIALLY CREATING A CONTIGUOUS PATH
11:17:22 FROM GANDY AND BAYSHORE, ALONG BAYSHORE, CONNECTING TO THE
11:17:28 RIVERWALK AND THEN GOING ALL THE WAY TO YBOR CITY.
11:17:31 SO THIS SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVES OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE
11:17:36 ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION WHILE INCREASING
11:17:41 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE URBAN CORE LIKE WE SAW WITH
11:17:45 THE EASTERN PART OF THE RIVERWALK.
11:17:47 THERE IS A LOCAL MATCH REQUIREMENT FOR THE $24 MILLION GRANT
11:17:52 AND THAT $6 MILLION THAT WILL COME FROM LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX
11:17:59 IN CONTRIBUTION TO THE COMPLETION OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
11:18:03 AND WE DO ANTICIPATE COMPLETING CONSTRUCTION BY DECEMBER OF
11:18:08 '26.
11:18:09 YOUR APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT TODAY WILL SET US ON A PATH
11:18:14 TO THEN ADVERTISE THIS PROJECT AND START CONSTRUCTION
11:18:18 SOMETIME NEXT YEAR.
11:18:19 I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:18:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:18:24 >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:18:26 I JUST WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS BECAUSE A $24 MILLION
11:18:29 GRANT FOR BIKING AND PEDESTRIANS IS PHENOMENAL, AND IT'S
11:18:34 NICE TO HEAR WHERE THAT 6 MILLION IS COMING FROM, GAS TAXES,
11:18:37 WHICH IS EVEN BETTER.
11:18:38 SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:18:39 I'M VERY EXCITED.
11:18:41 I CAN'T WAIT TO RIDE THIS.
11:18:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:18:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVERYBODY HAS TO SAY, I RIDE HORSES, CAN
11:18:48 I GO?
11:18:49 >> YES.
11:18:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
11:18:50 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
11:18:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
11:18:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:19:01 >>BILL CARLSON: THE SAME THING COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK SAID,
11:19:04 CONGRATS ON THE MATCHING MONEY AND GETTING FEDERAL MONEY.
11:19:08 THE IDEA OF THIS I THINK IS A GOOD IDEA AND IT'S A GREAT
11:19:13 AMENITY FOR OUR CITY.
11:19:14 YOU MENTIONED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THAT HIT ME JUST
11:19:17 SLIGHTLY.
11:19:18 IF YOU LOOK AT THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING ALONG
11:19:22 THE RIVERWALK, ALL THAT WAS IN PLAN EXCEPT FOR ONE LITTLE
11:19:25 PIECE THAT THE CITY GAVE AWAY, ESSENTIALLY.
11:19:29 THE REST OF IT WAS IN PLANS IN THE WORKS FOR A LONG TIME
11:19:33 ANYWAY.
11:19:33 I WOULDN'T CREDIT THAT REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE
11:19:36 RIVERWALK, BUT THE RIVERWALK HAS BEEN A GREAT AMENITY FOR
11:19:39 OUR CITIZENS AND FOR TOURISTS AND THIS WILL BE GREAT.
11:19:43 THE QUESTION I HAD WAS, THE $6 MILLION YOU SAID WHERE IT'S
11:19:47 COMING FROM, BUT WHAT ARE WE NOT PAYING THAT WE WOULD HAVE
11:19:50 PAID HAD THIS MATCHING GRANT NOT COME ALONG?
11:19:53 >>VIK BHIDE: SO THE $6 MILLION, CLOSE TO IT ANYWAYS, WAS
11:19:58 ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR COMPLETE STREETS PROJECT ON ROME
11:20:02 AVENUE.
11:20:02 THAT'S BEEN PART OF THE WALK-BIKE PLAN.
11:20:05 WE WERE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THAT TO GET A MUCH LARGER SUM
11:20:09 THROUGH THE BUILD GRANT AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR PARKS
11:20:11 DEPARTMENT.
11:20:14 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
11:20:15 THANK YOU.
11:20:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
11:20:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:20:18 FILE NUMBER T 22-75752.
11:20:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: VIK, YOU HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB ON THIS
11:20:25 YOUR STAFF HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB, BUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF
11:20:28 PEOPLE OUT THERE JUMPING UP AND DOWN, DANNY JORGENSEN FOR
11:20:31 ONE, CHRISTINA DECLUE, JANICE SCHERBERGER, KAREN CREST,
11:20:35 THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE JUMPING UP AND DOWN RIGHT NOW, AND
11:20:38 MS. PAULA FLORES.
11:20:40 SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THOSE LADIES HAPPY.
11:20:43 WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:20:46 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:20:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:20:48 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
11:20:50 MR. BHIDE, THANK YOU.
11:20:54 >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU.
11:21:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE'RE AT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, FILE E2022-8
11:21:07 CHAPTER 12.
11:21:12 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:21:15 WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY WITH REGARDS TO THE
11:21:19 TENANTS' BILL OF RIGHTS AND THE OVERVIEW.
11:21:21 IF I RECALL, THIS WAS A MOTION I MADE AFTER I BROUGHT UP THE
11:21:25 TENANT'S BILL OF RIGHTS WHEN IT ORIGINALLY FAILED ON
11:21:28 CONCERNS THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CHALLENGES ON IT.
11:21:30 JUST FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN
11:21:36 ANY CHALLENGES WITH IT AT ALL, IN MY OPINION.
11:21:39 JUST FOR THE SAKE OF TIME WITH COUNCIL.
11:21:41 >> REBECCA JOHNS, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
11:21:44 I HAVE CONFIRMED WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE OFFICE OF
11:21:46 HUMAN RIGHTS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMPLAINTS OF
11:21:48 VIOLATIONS OF EITHER -- OF ANY OF THE FOUR ASPECTS OF THIS
11:21:52 ORDINANCE.
11:21:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:21:59 >> THANK YOU.
11:22:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, FILE NUMBER CM --
11:22:11 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, NUMBER 11.
11:22:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAD A WRITTEN REPORT.
11:22:17 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.
11:22:18 I APOLOGIZE.
11:22:19 I WASN'T HERE FOR THAT.
11:22:22 I DON'T NEED ANYBODY HERE TO BE HERE FOR NUMBER 11.
11:22:25 IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I WANTED TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY ON
11:22:29 NUMBER 11.
11:22:30 IT DEALS WITH A PART OF THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT WE DON'T
11:22:33 OFTEN GET OUT TO A LOT.
11:22:34 COUNTY LINE ROAD, RIGHT THERE ON THE EDGE BETWEEN THE CITY
11:22:38 OF TAMPA AND PASCO COUNTY, WHERE OUR FRIENDS OF GRAND
11:22:41 HAMPTON ARE AT, THAT IS -- COUNTY LINE ROAD IS A VERY, VERY,
11:22:47 VERY DANGEROUS ROAD.
11:22:48 VIK HAD IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAN BE MADE
11:22:51 THAT TOTAL A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY THAT WE MAY NEED TO SEEK
11:22:55 SOME ASSISTANCE FROM OUR FRIENDS AT PASCO COUNTY ON, BUT
11:22:59 JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHALLENGES.
11:23:00 I SAW THEY HAD 90 DAYS, IF I MAY, TO HAVE THIS RETURNED TO
11:23:05 US IN 90 DAYS, IN OCTOBER OF 2022, FOR AN UPDATE ON THIS, IF
11:23:12 I MAY.
11:23:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:23:14 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:23:16 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:23:18 >> AYE.
11:23:19 >>LUIS VIERA: IT WOULD BE THE SECOND WEEK.
11:23:20 >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
11:23:23 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S GOOD.
11:23:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR?
11:23:27 AGENDA ITEM 12, CM 22-74202, MR. BENSON.
11:23:35 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:23:35 I HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THIS ITEM.
11:23:37 THE MOTION WAS TO APPEAR AND DISCUSS WHAT THE CITY CODE
11:23:47 STATES IN REGARDS TO BUILDING QUADRUPLEXES AND QUADS IN THE
11:23:52 CITY OF TAMPA.
11:23:52 A QUADRUPLEX IS ONE SPECIFIC HOUSING TYPE IN A RANGE OF
11:23:58 DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES FROM SINGLE-FAMILY ALL THE WAY TO
11:24:01 MULTIFAMILY.
11:24:01 HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF QUADRUPLEXES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:24:08 THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
11:24:09 THERE IS AN IMAGE OF A QUADRUPLEX IN HYDE PARK, PALMA CEIA
11:24:12 IN THE CENTER AND THEN TAMPA HEIGHTS, THE LENNAR BUILDING
11:24:18 WHICH HAS SINCE BEEN TORN DOWN THERE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
11:24:21 THERE ARE TWO WAYS THAT QUADRUPLEXES ARE REFLECTED IN THE
11:24:25 CODE.
11:24:26 THE FIRST IS UNDER THE USE CRITERIA AND THEN AS A FUNCTION
11:24:28 OF DENSITY.
11:24:29 AS FAR AS USES GO, QUADRUPLEXES FALL UNDER THE MULTIFAMILY
11:24:34 DWELLING DESIGNATION BECAUSE THEY ARE A STRUCTURE THAT
11:24:39 CONTAINS THREE OR MORE UNITS, THAT IS EITHER STACKED
11:24:41 VERTICALLY OR ATTACHED BY SIDE OR REAR WALLS OR BOTH.
11:24:45 SO THE IMAGES ON THE TOP SIDE, THE LEFT ONE IS A QUADRUPLEX,
11:24:50 THE REST ARE OTHER MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURES, AND THE IMAGES ON
11:24:53 THE BOTTOM ARE OTHER SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURES.
11:24:55 SO LOOKING AT WHERE THOSE USES ARE ALLOWED, BASED UPON THE
11:25:02 DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE, THEY ARE PERMITTED
11:25:06 BY RIGHT IN ABOUT 3% OF THE CITY.
11:25:09 AND THEN THEY ARE PERMITTED AS A SPECIAL USE, REQUIRING A
11:25:12 SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN ABOUT 16% OF THE CITY, BUT THAT IS
11:25:15 SUBJECT TO OTHER REGULATIONS IN THE CODE, SUCH AS DENSITY
11:25:19 FACTORS, PARKING REQUIREMENTS, SETBACKS, AND IT MAY REQUIRE
11:25:23 A PLANNING DEVELOPMENT REZONING IN ORDER TO ASSEMBLE A SITE
11:25:27 THAT CAN FIT A QUADRUPLEX.
11:25:30 LOOKING AT DENSITY, QUADRUPLEXES ARE ACTUALLY VERY DENSE.
11:25:33 IT IS A BIT DECEIVING.
11:25:35 THEY CAN BE UP TO 30 UNITS PER ACRE EVEN THOUGH SMALLER IN
11:25:39 SIZE.
11:25:40 UNDER THAT CATEGORY, LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT LAND USES WE
11:25:42 HAVE AND WHERE THAT AMOUNT OF DENSITY IS ALLOWED, IT'S
11:25:44 REALLY TWO AREAS.
11:25:45 ONE IS IN THE -- RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, AS FAR AS THE
11:25:49 RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CATEGORIES GO, THEY ARE ALLOWED -- THAT
11:25:52 DENSITY IS ALLOWED IN ABOUT 4% OF THOSE CATEGORIES.
11:25:55 AND THEN THEY ARE, OF COURSE, ALLOWED ALONG OUR MIXED USE
11:26:00 AND TRANSIT CORRIDORS WHICH ARE THE CATEGORIES IN PURPLE.
11:26:02 THOSE ARE THE REALLY DENSE, INTENSE CATEGORIES ALONG THE
11:26:04 CORRIDORS AND THE ACTIVITY CENTERS WHERE MULTIFAMILY
11:26:08 DEVELOPMENT IS ENCOURAGED.
11:26:09 WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT
11:26:13 HAVE.
11:26:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:26:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. BENSON.
11:26:17 I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION AND ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
11:26:21 SO I MADE THIS MOTION TO BRING THIS BACK BECAUSE WE KNOW WE
11:26:25 HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS, CATASTROPHE, THE WORD
11:26:32 CATASTROPHE WAS USED AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.
11:26:34 AND THE ISSUE IS WHY ARE PRICES SO HIGH?
11:26:37 WHY DO WE HAVE THIS?
11:26:38 IT'S AN ISSUE OF SUPPLY.
11:26:42 IT'S AN ISSUE OF THE COST OF LAND.
11:26:44 WE SEE WHAT AN EMPTY LOT IN EAST TAMPA OR WEST TAMPA,
11:26:47 THERE'S NOTHING CHEAP ANYMORE BECAUSE THE SITUATION IS HOW
11:26:49 IT IS.
11:26:50 HOWEVER, WHAT I SEE OR ASSUME THE AMERICAN DREAM IS HOME
11:26:56 OWNERSHIP.
11:26:57 WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE STUCK IN THE PERPETUITY OF RENTING
11:27:01 FOREVER.
11:27:01 AND WE SEE HOW YOU'RE AT THE MERCY OF THE LANDLORD AND RENTS
11:27:05 GO UP.
11:27:06 COST OF LIVING GOES UP, EVERYTHING GOES UP EXCEPT WAGES.
11:27:09 AND WE HAVE A PROBLEM WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN
11:27:13 THEIR OWN COMMUNITY.
11:27:14 TAMPA PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN TAMPA IS WHAT IT'S
11:27:17 BECOME.
11:27:18 BUT IF YOU LOOK BACK AT WHAT WE USED TO BE AS A CITY AND
11:27:22 I'LL GO ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT TANGENTS.
11:27:24 LOOK AT YBOR CITY.
11:27:25 TO ME, YBOR CITY IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF LIVE, WORK, PLAY.
11:27:29 YOU WORKED.
11:27:30 YOU HAD A HOME.
11:27:31 YOU HAD A PLACE TO LIVE.
11:27:32 YOU HAD PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
11:27:33 YOU HAD MUTUAL AID SOCIETIES, WE TOOK CARE OF EACH OTHER.
11:27:37 I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT OR LEARN FROM HISTORIC YBOR CITY
11:27:41 AND SAY WE USED TO BE THERE FOR ONE ANOTHER.
11:27:44 WE USED TO HELP ONE ANOTHER.
11:27:45 THE SITUATION WE HAVE TODAY IS HOUSING.
11:27:48 THE IDEAS THAT I'VE HAD IN TALKING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE AND
11:27:52 OTHER PEOPLE ARE IF THE CITY OF TAMPA OWNS SO MANY EMPTY
11:27:55 LOTS OR IF THERE'S PROPERTY THAT'S AVAILABLE, WHY NOT ALLOW,
11:27:59 BECAUSE PERCENTAGES ARE SMALL WHERE QUADRUPLEXES AND
11:28:03 TRIPLEXES ARE ALLOWED, WHY NOT AMEND THE CODE WHERE SOMEONE
11:28:07 COULD, LET'S SAY WE GIVE SOMEONE A PIECE OF PROPERTY, FOR
11:28:11 EXAMPLE, THAT THE CITY OWNS.
11:28:13 ALLOW THAT INDIVIDUAL TO BUILD A QUADRUPLEX.
11:28:17 SAID INDIVIDUAL LIVES IN ONE UNIT.
11:28:20 THEIR ELDERLY PARENTS LIVE IN ANOTHER UNIT THAT THEY ARE
11:28:24 CLOSE TO TAKE CARE OF.
11:28:26 THEN THE OTHER UNIT, 3 AND 4, THEY CAN RENT OUT AT AN
11:28:31 AFFORDABLE PRICE AND PAY BACK THE MORTGAGE.
11:28:33 IF WE PROVIDE THE LAND, IF WE HAVE THE LAND AVAILABLE, THAT
11:28:37 TAKES A LOT OF THE COST OUT.
11:28:39 WE ALLOW THE PERSON TO LIVE WITHIN THEIR MEANS.
11:28:44 LET'S SAY IT'S A FAMILY MEMBER, ELDERLY PARENTS, RENT OUT,
11:28:48 WHICH, YOU KNOW, UNITS THREE AND FOUR OR UNIT THREE AT AN
11:28:52 AFFORDABLE RATE WHERE THEY CAN MAKE THE MORTGAGE PAYMENT AND
11:28:55 IT ALLOWS THEM THAT PATHWAY TO HOME OWNERSHIP TO THAT
11:28:59 AMERICAN DREAM TO AT LEAST NOT TRYING TO -- WELL, YEAH,
11:29:05 TRYING TO SOLVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS.
11:29:08 THE PERCENTAGE IS SO SMALL WHERE THESE BUILDINGS OR THESE
11:29:12 STRUCTURES ARE ALLOWED, BUT HISTORICALLY, YOU SHOWED PLACES
11:29:15 IN PALMA CEIA AND HYDE PARK.
11:29:17 I KNOW SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS WHERE PEOPLE HAD SHELTER.
11:29:23 PEOPLE HAD A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD AT A PRICE THAT THEY COULD
11:29:26 AFFORD OR A PATHWAY THAT ALLOWED FOR AFFORDABILITY.
11:29:31 THINGS CHANGE.
11:29:33 I KNOW WHATEVER IT WAS, WHETHER IT'S URBAN RENEWAL, WHETHER
11:29:36 IT'S THE INTERSTATE, WHETHER IT'S, SO MANY THINGS.
11:29:39 THE CITY CHANGED.
11:29:40 THE CITY GREW, SUBURBAN SPRAWL, ALL THIS STUFF.
11:29:45 WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE MOVING HERE AND WE HAVE SO MANY
11:29:48 PEOPLE THAT ARE BARELY ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE.
11:29:51 AGAIN, EVERYTHING IS GOING UP EXCEPT WAGES.
11:29:54 AND THIS IS ANOTHER TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX, WHETHER WE AMEND
11:29:57 THE CODE, WE EXPAND THIS.
11:30:01 THE DEMAND IS THERE.
11:30:02 IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE THROWING MONEY AWAY.
11:30:04 PEOPLE NEED TO BE EITHER ON A PATHWAY TO OWNERSHIP OR WE
11:30:09 ALLOW FOR THESE MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNITS, ADUs,
11:30:14 EVERYTHING ELSE THAT ALLOW FOLKS AN AFFORDABLE MANNER OF
11:30:20 LIVING.
11:30:20 THANK YOU.
11:30:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:30:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M SORRY.
11:30:25 I YIELD TO MR. CARLSON AND I'LL SPEAK AFTER HIM.
11:30:28 I HAD IT FIRST BUT I YIELD.
11:30:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:30:34 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS NEXT.
11:30:38 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THAT -- ACTUALLY, CAN YOU GO
11:30:41 BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES IN YOUR PRESENTATION?
11:30:43 WHILE WE'RE WAITING, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME BRINGING THIS
11:30:53 IN.
11:30:57 I ALSO ECHO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO ON HOW THE CITY COULD
11:31:02 POSSIBLY USE ITS LAND.
11:31:03 IF YOU COULD GO TO THE SLIDE WITH -- THERE AREN'T THAT MANY.
11:31:09 IT WAS LIKE MAYBE THREE.
11:31:11 I THINK IT IS THE THIRD ONE.
11:31:15 ONE MORE.
11:31:23 SLIDE 6.
11:31:39 >> COULD WE BRING THAT BACK UP, PLEASE?
11:31:43 >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE YOU GO.
11:31:44 I'M A FAN, AND THE SLIDE BEFORE SHOWED THOSE BEAUTIFUL
11:31:50 HISTORIC QUADS.
11:31:52 IF YOU LOOK AT THE QUAD THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN, IT'S BY
11:31:56 FAR THE PRETTIEST ON THE PAGE.
11:31:58 I MEAN, JUST AESTHETICALLY.
11:32:00 THERE ARE HOUSES RIGHT NEXT TO THEM.
11:32:02 THEY BLEND IN REALLY NICELY.
11:32:06 AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE SLIDES BELOW WHICH MAY
11:32:10 HAVE THE SAME IDEA, BUT WHAT DO YOU NOTICE?
11:32:14 YOU NOTICE CONCRETE.
11:32:17 YOU DON'T NOTICE THE GRASS IN FRONT.
11:32:19 YOU NOTICE CONCRETE.
11:32:20 SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, WHAT I WANT TO SEE IS NO
11:32:24 CONCRETE IN THE FRONT.
11:32:26 I WANT PARKING TO BE IN THE BACK.
11:32:27 BECAUSE, LOOK, THEY FIT BETTER.
11:32:30 WHEN PEOPLE WALK THROUGH THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, THESE HISTORIC
11:32:33 NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU ARE LESS LIKELY TO NOTICE A QUADRUPLEX.
11:32:37 YOU'RE LESS LIKELY TO BE OFFENDED BY A QUADRUPLEX.
11:32:40 WE NEED THESE IN A LOT MORE THAN 3% OF THE CITY.
11:32:43 AND IN THE WAYS YOU DO THAT IS YOU ENCOURAGE THEM TO FACE
11:32:48 AND INTERACT WITH THE STREET IN A WAY THAT THE OTHER HOUSES
11:32:52 INTERACT WITH THE STREET.
11:32:54 SO WHERE POSSIBLE, I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THESE IN AREAS
11:32:58 THAT ALREADY HAVE ALLEYS, THAT HAVE AREAS THAT INCLUDE MORE
11:33:04 DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING ALREADY WHERE THESE QUADRUPLEXES,
11:33:08 TRIPLEXES, AND DUPLEXES MAY ALREADY BE.
11:33:12 AND I WANT TO SEE HOW WE CAN POSSIBLY INCREASE THAT IN AREAS
11:33:15 OF THE CITY WHERE THEY ALREADY ARE OR MAYBE NEIGHBORHOODS
11:33:18 THAT ARE WILLING TO TAKE THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT ON AS
11:33:25 MAYBE A PILOT.
11:33:26 I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT CITYWIDE,
11:33:30 BUT WHERE COULD WE START WITH THIS?
11:33:32 PDs ARE INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE.
11:33:35 IF YOU ARE A SINGLE LANDOWNER, TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE PD
11:33:40 PROCESS IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
11:33:42 HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS MORE AFFORDABLE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE
11:33:45 ONE FOR THEMSELVES, ONE FOR THEIR FAMILY AND TWO RENTALS?
11:33:49 THANK YOU.
11:33:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:33:56 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
11:33:57 I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES.
11:34:00 I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, I KNOW, MR. BENSON, YOU'VE BEEN
11:34:04 MEETING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS.
11:34:05 I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS.
11:34:08 THE PERSPECTIVES ON THIS ARE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD BY
11:34:10 NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN PARTICULAR IN SOUTH TAMPA, YOU KNOW
11:34:13 THERE IS SOME OPPOSITION TO IT.
11:34:15 BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IN MOST NEIGHBORHOODS, EVEN IN SOUTH
11:34:18 TAMPA, THE CONSENSUS IS THAT THERE ARE AREAS WHERE IT MIGHT
11:34:23 BE APPROPRIATE AND NOT JUST QUADRUPLEXES BUT DUPLEXES AND
11:34:27 OTHER KINDS OF MULTIFAMILY.
11:34:28 WHEN YOU'VE GOT MULTIMILLION DOLLAR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES NEXT
11:34:31 TO EACH OTHER, PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT MULTIFAMILY
11:34:35 COMING NEXT TO THEM.
11:34:37 JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR PERCEPTION ABOUT HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:34:40 SHOULD WORK.
11:34:42 BUT YOU KNOW FROM PLANNING THAT CORRIDORS AND TRANSITIONS
11:34:46 ARE THE MAIN AREAS WHERE PEOPLE TEND TO BE OKAY WITH THEM.
11:34:50 SO IF YOU LOOK ALONG MacDILL, FOR EXAMPLE, SOUTH OF
11:34:54 GANDY, THERE'S A LOT OF SMALLER MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS ALONG
11:35:00 MacDILL AND THERE'S SOME COMMERCIAL THERE.
11:35:02 SO IF YOU'RE TRANSITIONING FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL
11:35:06 FROM COMMERCIAL TO SINGLE-FAMILY, I THINK A LOT OF
11:35:10 NEIGHBORHOODS TEND TO BE OKAY WITH A TRANSITION OF SOME
11:35:13 MULTIFAMILY AS A TRANSITION TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY.
11:35:17 BECAUSE SOMEBODY MIGHT NOT WANT TO HAVE A SINGLE-FAMILY
11:35:20 HOUSE RIGHT BEHIND A BIG COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
11:35:23 AND ALSO ALONG BUSY CORRIDORS.
11:35:25 SO WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO -- I WON'T MAKE A MOTION
11:35:29 I WOULD ENCOURAGE -- I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS FROM YOUR
11:35:32 EXPERTISE AND ABBYE AND EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS IT -- IF WE
11:35:34 COULD SOMEHOW LOOK AT CORRIDORS AND TRANSITIONS INSTEAD OF
11:35:38 JUST A BLANKET CITYWIDE POLICY, IN PARTICULAR WITH SOUTH
11:35:41 TAMPA AND LET'S BE SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, MEET WITH
11:35:45 THEM.
11:35:45 IT'S GOING TO TAKE MEETING WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY, BUT IF
11:35:48 YOU START WITH ROADS AND LOOK AT THE TRANSITIONS THERE AND
11:35:52 SAY, LOOK, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO PUT MULTIFAMILY THROUGHOUT
11:35:54 YOUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WHAT ABOUT ALONG THIS ROADWAY
11:35:58 AND NOT LOOKING TO PUT 200 UNITS.
11:36:01 LOOKING TO PUT FOUR OR EIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:36:03 I THINK CORRIDORS AND TRANSITIONS PLAN WOULD BE A LOT MORE
11:36:06 PALATABLE AND HELP US MOVE MUCH MORE QUICKLY TOWARD
11:36:10 CONSENSUS.
11:36:10 THANK YOU.
11:36:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:36:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:36:15 I'VE BEEN LISTENING VERY PATIENTLY AND MY MEMORY HAS BEEN
11:36:24 GOING BACK FOUR YEARS AGO, FIVE YEARS AGO.
11:36:26 I BELIEVE THIS CAME BEFORE US ONCE BY MR. MECHANIK, IF HE
11:36:29 WAS THE ATTORNEY, IF I REMEMBER AND THE CLIENT WAS MR.
11:36:31 COHEN.
11:36:32 THEY HAD A COMPLETE PLAN, JUST WHAT MR. CARLTON SAID, OF
11:36:36 WHERE THEY WANTED TO PUT IT AT.
11:36:38 THE COUNCIL DIDN'T SAY YES OR DIDN'T SAY NO.
11:36:41 THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD FAIL WHEN IT CAME UP FOR A VOTE.
11:36:44 I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT WAS THE CASE.
11:36:47 I REMEMBER SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:36:49 I'M ALMOST POSITIVE IT WAS MR. MECHANIK, BUT I MAY BE WRONG.
11:36:53 HOWEVER, YOU WERE CLEVER LIKE A TV SHOW, YOUR PRESENTATION
11:36:56 WAS GREAT.
11:36:57 NOT BEING A CRITIC, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
11:37:00 I APPRECIATE WHAT THE COUNCIL IS TRYING TO DO.
11:37:02 BUT THERE'S ONLY FOUR DISTRICTS THAT THIS CAN GO INTO.
11:37:05 FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN.
11:37:07 YOU FAILED TO PUT WHAT DISTRICTS THEY COULD GO INTO IN YOUR
11:37:11 PLAN, IN YOUR PRESENTATION.
11:37:12 YOU TALKED VERY ELOQUENTLY ABOUT 12, 16, RM-18, SO FORTH AND
11:37:18 SO ON AND WHERE THE PERCENTAGES, 1%, 2%, 3.9%, WHATEVER.
11:37:23 HOWEVER, YOU FAILED TO PUT DOWN THE DISTRICTS WHICH THEY
11:37:27 WOULD FALL INTO, WHICH IS FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, THE
11:37:31 PERIMETERS WHERE THIS IS AVAILABLE.
11:37:35 THE NICE HOUSE YOU SAW THERE MULTIFAMILY, I THINK THEY WERE
11:37:38 BUILT IN THE '20s OR THE '30s.
11:37:41 THAT'S MY OPINION.
11:37:42 I MAY BE WRONG.
11:37:43 I WASN'T ALIVE THEN, BY THE WAY.
11:37:45 IT'S ACCEPTED.
11:37:52 PARKING IN ALLEYS IS FINE.
11:37:54 PARKING IN SOME ALLEYS NOT ENOUGH SPACE AND SOME ALLEYS ARE
11:37:57 CLOSED DEPENDING WHERE YOU ARE AT.
11:37:58 WEST TAMPA IS 50-50 OR 60-40, WHATEVER.
11:38:02 I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THAT YOU WILL HAVE DRAWBACK.
11:38:05 TODAY IS A VERY NICE, PLEASANT DAY ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION.
11:38:09 HOW ARE WE GOING TO HAVE IT WHEN IT PASSES AND COMES BEFORE
11:38:12 US AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE HERE?
11:38:14 WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO THEN?
11:38:16 I'M LAYING IT JUST LIKE I SEE IT.
11:38:18 ARE WE GOING TO PASS SOMETHING FOR OURSELVES TO LOOK AT AND
11:38:22 THEN BACK OFF LATER ON?
11:38:24 WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH IT?
11:38:26 I AGREE WITH MR. MANISCALCO.
11:38:29 VERY NICE, VERY WELL SAID BUT I'M LOOKING WHAT IF IT PASSES,
11:38:33 WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH IT?
11:38:35 GOOD IDEA, VOTE IT DOWN?
11:38:37 THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:38:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:38:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO.
11:38:44 GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:38:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:38:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF DUPLEXES.
11:38:49 I SAW WHAT IT DID TO SULPHUR SPRINGS, BUT WE HAVE A
11:38:55 SITUATION.
11:38:55 I LOOK AT THE QUADRUPLEXES.
11:38:57 YOU LOOK AT EAST TAMPA, THERE ARE A LOT OF BUILDINGS JUST
11:39:00 LIKE THAT, THAT ARE SITTING DILAPIDATED.
11:39:03 WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT GO TO THOSE LANDOWNERS.
11:39:07 THEY MAY NOT HAVE ANY MONEY, BUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO HELP THEM
11:39:12 TO RENOVATE THESE PROPERTIES.
11:39:13 I CAN GIVE YOU ONE.
11:39:14 GO DOWN, LAKE AND NEBRASKA.
11:39:17 LOOK AT THAT BIG OL' BUILDING SITTING THERE JUST ROTTING.
11:39:20 LOOK AT THE CHURCH DOWN THERE.
11:39:22 I CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE A
11:39:26 TEAM.
11:39:27 I KNOW ME AND MR. ELISE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
11:39:34 BEING ABLE TO HAVE A STUDY, WE LOOK AND BREAK THE CITY DOWN
11:39:37 AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT PROPERTIES ARE BAD.
11:39:40 HOW CAN WE REDEVELOP THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BAD TO BRING
11:39:43 THEM BACK INTO STOCK.
11:39:45 WE HAVE STOCK, BUT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE DIED.
11:39:49 PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO REDEVELOP IT.
11:39:53 TO PUT ANYTHING INTO IT.
11:39:56 THAT'S THE MINDSET WE HAVE TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE EXISTING
11:39:59 STOCKS.
11:39:59 BUT ALSO, JUST BECAUSE SOUTH TAMPA MAY NOT WANT SOME OF
11:40:04 THIS, SOME EAST TAMPA RESIDENTS DON'T WANT SOME OF THIS
11:40:08 BECAUSE THEY HAVE HOMES, THEIR PROPERTY VALUE.
11:40:11 YOU CAN'T PUT A TINY HOME NEXT TO A FAMILY HOME IN THE AREA.
11:40:15 PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA WILL RAISE HOLY HECK AS WELL AS SOUTH
11:40:18 TAMPA WOULD.
11:40:19 YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TRACT OF LAND OR CERTAIN AREA THAT YOU
11:40:22 CAN PUT THAT DEVELOPMENT IN AND IT'S GREAT TO HAVE.
11:40:25 CONTAINER HOMES, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE CONTAINER HOMES INSIDE
11:40:28 OF RESIDENTIAL AREA NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE PEOPLE SAY, WELL, I
11:40:32 SPENT SO MUCH MONEY TO BUILD IT UP AND THIS AND THAT,
11:40:35 BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, BANKS WON'T FINANCE CONTAINER
11:40:38 HOMES, NUMBER ONE.
11:40:39 NUMBER TWO, WHO IS GOING TO HELP REFURBISH WHEN THE
11:40:42 CONTAINER HOME STARTS TO DETERIORATE?
11:40:45 I'VE GOT SEVERAL FOOTBALL TRAILERS AND I CAN SEE WHAT IT'S
11:40:50 DONE DURING THE YEARS.
11:40:51 THEY DETERIORATE, MR. MIRANDA.
11:40:53 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CONSISTENT ON WHAT WE'RE BUILDING,
11:40:55 WHERE WE'RE PUTTING IT AT, BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE
11:40:58 LOOKING AT PROPERTIES, THAT THEY ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE,
11:41:01 THAT WE CAN PROBABLY HELP THOSE OWNERS SOMEHOW GET IT BACK
11:41:06 INTO CIRCULATION.
11:41:07 THANK YOU, SIR.
11:41:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:41:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING.
11:41:14 COUNCILMAN GUDES BRINGS UP A GREAT POINT.
11:41:15 HELP THE EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT NEED HELP.
11:41:18 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA DOES BRING A GOOD POINT.
11:41:20 WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THESE COME TO COUNCIL AND THE
11:41:23 NEIGHBORHOODS ARE OPPOSED TO IT.
11:41:24 HOWEVER, ALSO A QUESTION WAS ASKED, HAVE WE LOOKED AT THE
11:41:28 FOUR DISTRICTS TO SEE -- BECAUSE IT IS A VERY SMALL
11:41:31 PERCENTAGE.
11:41:31 2.9% OF THE CITY, WHERE ARE THEY AT?
11:41:34 WHERE ARE THEY ALLOWED?
11:41:35 WHERE DO WE OWN PROPERTY?
11:41:38 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:41:40 MY QUESTION IS, DO I WANT A DEVELOPER COMING IN AND JUST
11:41:44 BUILDING A FOUR-PLEX, A QUAD, AND THEN RENTING IT OUT AT
11:41:48 MARKET RATE WHERE IT DEFEATS THE WHOLE AFFORDABILITY?
11:41:55 WILL A BANK GIVE A CONSTRUCTION LOAN?
11:41:57 IF WE WERE TO DONATE OR SELL A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO SOMEBODY
11:42:00 AT A DOLLAR, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THEY
11:42:03 CAN'T SELL IT FOR 10, 15, 20 YEARS, WHATEVER IT IS, SINCE
11:42:08 THEY HAVE NOW THE LAND IN THEIR CONTROL, WOULD A BANK GIVE
11:42:12 THEM A CONSTRUCTION LOAN TO BUILD THAT QUADRUPLEX.
11:42:16 AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT AFFORDABILITY AND OPENING UP A
11:42:18 PATHWAY TO PEOPLE THAT TYPICALLY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD
11:42:21 MORE EXPENSIVE THINGS.
11:42:23 THAT'S IT.
11:42:26 I DON'T WANT -- MY PLAN IS THAT IT DOESN'T FALL INTO THE
11:42:29 HANDS OF A DEVELOPER THAT THEN SELLS IT OR RENTS IT FOR TOP
11:42:33 DOLLAR.
11:42:33 I WANT IT TO STAY AFFORDABLE.
11:42:36 WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO KEEP IT OPEN FOR PEOPLE THAT
11:42:41 CANNOT AFFORD THE RIDICULOUS RENTS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE
11:42:44 LOOKING FOR A PATHWAY TO OWNERSHIP AND EARNING RENTAL INCOME
11:42:48 AND THEN BEING ABLE TO LIFT THEMSELVES UP.
11:42:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:42:55 >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR SECOND SLIDE, WHICH I
11:43:00 THINK SO ELOQUENTLY SHOWS THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE MISSING IN
11:43:03 THIS CITY.
11:43:04 WE HAVE CLEARLY THE MID-RISE.
11:43:06 WE HAVE CLEARLY THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
11:43:08 WE ARE MISSING ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN,
11:43:11 EIGHT TYPES OF HOUSING IN THIS CITY.
11:43:14 AND IT'S ONLY ALLOWED IN 2.9% OF THE LAND, AND WE JUST HAD
11:43:18 PEOPLE HERE TALKING ABOUT THE PRICE.
11:43:20 WE SPENT OVER AN HOUR LISTENING TO CONSTITUENTS.
11:43:25 WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF AFFORDING TO BE NIMBYs
11:43:29 OURSELVES.
11:43:29 WE JUST CAN'T DO IT.
11:43:31 AND I AGREE THAT THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE GOING
11:43:33 TO BE WORRIED ABOUT THIS.
11:43:36 SO, YES, I THINK WE REACH OUT TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:43:38 WE TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE STRATEGIES.
11:43:40 THE STRATEGIES THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON TALKED ABOUT, ABOUT
11:43:45 USING STREETS THAT LEAD INTO NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT WE NEED TO
11:43:48 USE SMALLER STREETS THAT LEAD INTO NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:43:51 THOSE LARGER STREETS, WE DO NEED TO SAVE FOR EIGHT-STORY,
11:43:55 TEN-STORY BUILDINGS, BECAUSE THAT IS HOW YOU BUILD A CITY.
11:43:59 AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE NOT BUILDING A CITY THE WAY NORMAL
11:44:02 CITIES ARE BUILT.
11:44:03 WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE COMING THAT WE ARE BEHIND, WE ARE SO
11:44:07 FAR BEHIND IN PROVIDING THIS TYPE OF HOUSING THAT WE NEED TO
11:44:11 -- WE NEED TO GET RESIDENT BUY-IN HOWEVER WE DO IT.
11:44:15 BUT WE CAN'T -- WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF SITTING BACK AND
11:44:18 SAYING, WELL, MAYBE WE'LL DO IT OR MAYBE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD
11:44:21 WANTS IT OR MAYBE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS IT.
11:44:23 WE NEED TO EDUCATE THE NEIGHBORS ON WHAT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY
11:44:26 LOOK LIKE, HOW IT WOULD WORK.
11:44:28 MAYBE IT ISN'T FOR EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:44:30 I GUARANTEE YOU, THERE ARE SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS
11:44:33 CITY THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO BE THE GUINEA PIGS FOR THIS.
11:44:36 LET'S FIND THOSE PLACES.
11:44:37 LET'S START AND THEN LET'S BRING THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN
11:44:39 AND SHOW THEM HOW WELL IT WORKS.
11:44:42 OR LEARN FROM MISTAKES.
11:44:44 WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE AFFORDABILITY AND THE LUXURY OF TIME.
11:44:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:44:53 I'M GOING TO MAKE VERY, VERY BRIEF.
11:44:57 MS. ZELMAN, IF YOU COULD HELP ME OUT ON THIS.
11:45:00 WE HAVE HEARD SOME VERY GREAT THINGS ON THIS DAIS TODAY.
11:45:04 OUR LAND IS BECOMING LESS AND LESS AND LESS.
11:45:11 AND WE NEED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY, AS I HAVE HEARD
11:45:14 MR. HAGEN SAY SO MANY TIMES, DENSITY, DENSITY, DENSITY.
11:45:20 BECAUSE WE HAVE A YIN AND YANG.
11:45:22 WITHOUT DENSITY, WE CAN'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION.
11:45:24 WITHOUT TRANSPORTATION -- MASS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, CAN'T
11:45:29 HAVE DENSITY.
11:45:30 WE NEED MORE OF THIS.
11:45:33 TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S POINT AND AFTER TRAVELING WITH
11:45:37 MS. SANDY SANCHEZ THROUGH THE ALLEYS, LOOKING AT PARKING,
11:45:41 LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT LITTLE
11:45:46 LAND WE HAVE, MS. ZELMAN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START
11:45:52 LOOKING AT, WHEN WE SEE SITE PLANS, WE'RE LOOKING FOR SCALE,
11:45:58 HEIGHT, AND WHAT IS GOING TO GO ON THAT PROPERTY WHEN WE
11:46:01 MAKE A ZONING CHANGE.
11:46:03 WE CAN'T REDESIGN OR DESIGN FROM THE DAIS.
11:46:11 WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, MS. FEELEY, IS HOW CAN WE CHANGE
11:46:17 WHILE WE'RE MAKING THE ZONING CHANGE THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO
11:46:22 SAY WE WANT THE GARAGE IN THE BACK, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO
11:46:26 HAVE A WIDER SIDEWALK IN FRONT SO WE CAN HAVE BETTER BIKING,
11:46:31 BETTER PEDESTRIAN.
11:46:32 HOW CAN WE START THOSE TYPE OF CONVERSATIONS WHEN LAND GETS
11:46:37 REZONED?
11:46:38 INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DESIGN FROM THE DAIS.
11:46:48 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: GOOD MORNING.
11:46:49 ANDREA ZELMAN, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:46:51 I THINK ABBYE IS GOING TO COME UP.
11:46:53 I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING, AND INTERESTINGLY, NPR HAD A
11:46:57 STORY ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING THAT ZONING IS ONE OF THE
11:47:01 PRIMARY WAYS TO INCREASE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THAT, OF
11:47:03 COURSE, IS SOMETHING IN COUNCIL'S CONTROL.
11:47:06 I WOULD SUGGEST THAT I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE ZONING
11:47:09 CODE AND SEE HOW IT CAN BE AMENDED TO ALLOW FOR MORE DENSITY
11:47:15 IN PARTS OF THE CITY THAT OTHERWISE NOW WOULD NOT ALLOW A
11:47:19 QUADRUPLEX OR DUPLEX OR WHATEVER OF THESE ALTERNATIVE TYPES
11:47:24 OF HOUSING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
11:47:25 I THINK ABBYE MAY WANT TO ADD.
11:47:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN, MY POINT WAS, WHERE CAN WE GET INTO
11:47:32 THE DESIGN ASPECT WHEN WE DO THE ZONING CHANGE?
11:47:36 >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY.
11:47:37 I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM IS RIGHT NOW THESE WOULDN'T COME
11:47:41 BEFORE YOU IN THAT CONTEXT TO GET INTO DESIGN BECAUSE THEY
11:47:44 ARE ONLY PERMITTED IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY.
11:47:47 AND YOU CAN NEVER USE A PD TO CIRCUMVENT THAT AND JUST BRING
11:47:51 YOU IN A QUADRUPLEX SOMEWHERE WHERE IT WOULDN'T BE
11:47:56 PERMITTED.
11:47:57 STARTS WITH LAND USE, FAVORITE LAYER CAKE ANALYSIS, STARTS
11:48:00 WITH THE LAND USE AND THEN THE ZONING ON TOP OF THE LAND
11:48:02 USE.
11:48:02 BUT I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF UPDATING OUR
11:48:06 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RIGHT NOW, WHICH NEEDS HOUSING UPDATED,
11:48:12 THE SECTION RELATED TO HOUSING UPDATED, AND WE COULD
11:48:14 INCORPORATE THOSE TRANSECTS AND CORRIDORS INTO THAT
11:48:17 LONGER-RANGE PLAN AND THEN LOOK AT ADJUSTING THE LAND
11:48:21 DEVELOPMENT REGULATION IN ORDER TO REFLECT THOSE CHANGES TO
11:48:26 ALLOW FOR THIS.
11:48:28 I THINK YOU ALL RAISED A NUMBER OF GOOD POINTS, POINTS WE
11:48:32 STRUGGLE WITH EVERY DAY AMONGST OUR DIALOGUE, WHICH IS WHEN
11:48:35 YOU HAVE NEIGHBORS MAKING INVESTMENTS IN HOMES THAT ARE
11:48:38 MULTIMILLION DOLLARS HOMES AND THERE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY
11:48:42 NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR PLAN SPEAKS TO THE PROTECTION OF THE
11:48:45 CHARACTER OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOW DO WE DO THAT WHILE
11:48:48 WE INTRODUCING NEW HOUSING TYPES IN ORDER TO MEET THE
11:48:51 DEMANDS THAT ARE ON OUR CITY AS WELL.
11:48:53 IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO STRIKE THAT BALANCE AND BE
11:48:57 INTENTIONAL IN THAT.
11:48:58 I THINK THIS CONVERSATION STARTS THAT AND HOW WE START TO
11:49:01 GET THERE.
11:49:03 I THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE ANALYSIS AND THEN WE COULD TALK
11:49:06 ABOUT SOME OF THOSE DESIGN ELEMENTS IN SOME OF THE DIFFERENT
11:49:09 AREAS OF THE CITY ONCE WE KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO
11:49:13 START TO TAKE.
11:49:15 THAT WOULD BE MY INPUT.
11:49:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITH ALL THOSE STATEMENTS, CAN WE KEEP THAT
11:49:19 IN THE BACK OF OUR MINDS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CHANGES?
11:49:21 THANK YOU.
11:49:22 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:49:23 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY MAKE A MOTION TO
11:49:25 HAVE A WORKSHOP ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
11:49:29 JUST LET'S START TALKING ABOUT THIS AND WHERE WE CAN -- WHAT
11:49:36 TYPES OF DESIGN CHANGES AND WHAT AREAS OF THE CITY WE CAN GO
11:49:41 INTO WITH THIS.
11:49:42 LET'S START THE DISCUSSION.
11:49:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:49:47 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD, WE'RE BRINGING
11:49:49 YOU A LOT IN OCTOBER.
11:49:51 WE'RE BRINGING YOU THE ADUs.
11:49:52 WE'RE BRINGING YOU AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS A SPECIFIED USE.
11:49:57 WE HAVE SEVERAL VERY MEATY TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION WHEN WE
11:49:59 COME TO WORKSHOP IN OCTOBER.
11:50:01 STEPHEN CAN CONFIRM THE LAND USE ANALYSIS IS BEING DONE AS
11:50:05 THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT I THINK WILL BE A LITTLE FURTHER
11:50:07 ALONG IF WE WAIT THEN UNTIL A FOLLOWING WORKSHOP FOR THAT.
11:50:11 I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THE TIME AND ATTENTION WE NEED TO
11:50:14 TO THE THINGS THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU SO WE CAN
11:50:17 TAKE ACTION ON THEM IN OCTOBER AND NOT OVERLOAD THAT WITH
11:50:20 TAKING AWAY FROM TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ON THAT IN
11:50:22 THE NEXT 90 DAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT'S REALLY READY TO MOVE
11:50:26 FORWARD FOR YOU.
11:50:27 I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE, IF YOU COULD AFFORD US JUST A
11:50:30 LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE
11:50:33 BRINGING IS RELIABLE, GOOD DATA AND WE CAN MAKE SOME GOOD
11:50:38 DECISIONS WITH IT.
11:50:39 >>LYNN HURTAK: AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
11:50:42 YES, I CAN SEE THAT THAT IS OUR WORKSHOP SESSION; HOWEVER, I
11:50:48 WOULD LOVE TO JUST, BECAUSE WORKSHOPS GET TAKEN UP, EATEN UP
11:50:54 SO QUICKLY, IF WE COULD SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP, SAY,
11:50:58 FEBRUARYISH TO COME BACK AS A SECOND LAYER OF THAT JUST SO
11:51:02 THAT WE GET IT ON THE BOOKS, AND IT DOESN'T GET TAKEN UP BY
11:51:07 SOMETHING ELSE.
11:51:08 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT WOULD BE PERFECT.
11:51:11 THANK YOU.
11:51:11 >>LYNN HURTAK: FEBRUARY WOULD BE THE 23rd.
11:51:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, THE SUBJECT WOULD BE?
11:51:16 DO YOU HAVE THAT, MADAM CLERK?
11:51:17 RESTATE WHAT IT IS YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE ON THE WORKSHOP.
11:51:23 >>LYNN HURTAK: BASICALLY HOW WE FIT MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING
11:51:28 INTO COMP PLAN, INTO OUR ZONING, INTO OUR DEVELOPMENT
11:51:33 PATTERN.
11:51:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW DO YOU WANT TO PHRASE THAT?
11:51:40 >> ALTERNATIVE HOUSING STOCK OR MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.
11:51:42 THAT'S FINE.
11:51:43 >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO NUANCE IT MORE NUANCELY
11:51:49 AFTER THE OCTOBER WORKSHOP.
11:51:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
11:51:52 HURTAK.
11:51:53 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:51:54 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:51:59 >> AYE.
11:51:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OPPOSED?
11:52:00 MS. ZELMAN, MS. FEELEY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TRYING TO
11:52:04 UNDERSTAND WHAT'S INSIDE MY HEAD.
11:52:05 OKAY.
11:52:08 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13, FILE NUMBER E2020-48.
11:52:17 WE ARE STILL GOING TO HEAR THAT, AND MS. TRAVIS, YOU'RE
11:52:22 HERE.
11:52:23 DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND HEAR 88 AT THE SAME TIME SINCE
11:52:28 THEY ARE INTERLOCKING.
11:52:33 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD MORNING AGAIN, COUNCIL.
11:52:36 NICOLE TRAVIS.
11:52:37 I PRESENTED A MEMO TO YOU THAT PROVIDED AN UPDATE ON WHERE
11:52:41 WE WERE WITH THE TAMPA UNION STATION.
11:52:45 COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS ASKED FOR US TO LOOK AT WHAT THINGS
11:52:48 CAN BE DONE SIMULTANEOUSLY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO RENOVATE THE
11:52:51 BUILDING, BUT THIS IS JUST AN ACCOMPANYING MEMO TO AN
11:52:55 AGREEMENT.
11:52:55 THE CRA BOARD -- WELL, THIS COUNCIL ASKED FOR THE CRA BOARD
11:52:59 TO ALLOCATE $1.5 MILLION TOWARDS -- TO ACCELERATE THE
11:53:04 RENOVATIONS OF THE TAMPA UNION STATION.
11:53:07 THE CRA BOARD APPROVED THAT MONEY.
11:53:08 THIS IS JUST AN AGREEMENT STATING THAT SHOULD WE RECEIVE ANY
11:53:12 TYPE OF GRANT FUNDING WE WOULD REIMBURSE THE CRA FROM GRANT
11:53:16 FUNDING FOR THAT TAMPA UNION STATION.
11:53:19 I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE AN
11:53:22 UPDATE THAT HAS BEEN ASKED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON WITH THAT
11:53:26 MEMO.
11:53:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:53:30 >>BILL CARLSON: HAPPY TO MOVE THIS, IF WE NEED TO MOVE IT.
11:53:37 >> 88?
11:53:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S UNDER CONSENT.
11:53:39 IT'S YOUR COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF YOU WANT TO DO
11:53:43 IT NOW OR WAIT FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.
11:53:45 >>BILL CARLSON: I CAN WAIT FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.
11:53:47 THANK YOU TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND NICOLE AND EVERYONE ELSE
11:53:49 WHO PUT TOGETHER THIS VERY QUICKLY.
11:53:52 CHIEF OF STAFF BROUGHT OUT LIKE TEN OF THE TOP MANAGERS TO
11:53:55 LOOK AT THE CITY TO LOOK AT TAMPA UNION STATION.
11:53:58 WE ALL SAW FIRSTHAND HOW IT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED QUICKLY.
11:54:01 FOLLOWING THE RENOVATION WILL BE AN RFP TO DO SOME KIND OF
11:54:05 COFFEE SHOP AND INCUBATOR SPACE.
11:54:08 SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
11:54:09 >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE MEMO AS WELL.
11:54:12 THANK YOU.
11:54:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:54:14 THANK YOU.
11:54:17 >> THANK YOU.
11:54:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM NUMBER 14, FILE CM22-73043.
11:54:27 >>OCEA WYNN: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:54:28 OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
11:54:31 AFFAIRS.
11:54:32 ITEM NUMBER 14, YOU ASKED STAFF TO REPORT BEFORE YOU THE
11:54:37 POSSIBILITY OF GETTING WITH CRA STAFF AND ARTS AND CULTURAL
11:54:41 AFFAIRS DIVISION TO SET UP AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO ADDRESS
11:54:45 WORLD WAR II VETERANS, INSTALLATIONS, MEMORIALS AND THINGS
11:54:51 OF THAT SUPPORT.
11:54:52 I PROVIDED A MEMO TO YOU THAT SHOWS THE PROCESS OR
11:54:56 GUIDELINES THAT WE WOULD USE TO SET UP A VETERANS ADVISORY
11:55:02 COUNCIL THAT WOULD ENTERTAIN THOSE TYPE OF CONCERNS AS WELL
11:55:04 AS OTHER CONCERNS, AS WE HEARD EARLIER THIS MORNING, OTHER
11:55:09 VETERAN-RELATED CONCERNS THAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO THE
11:55:13 ADMINISTRATION OR BEFORE COUNCIL.
11:55:15 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING
11:55:19 THE MEMO.
11:55:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:55:21 >>BILL CARLSON: THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS TO PUT TOGETHER A
11:55:25 GROUP OF WORLD WAR II VETERANS TO GIVE ADVICE AND ALSO TO
11:55:28 INCLUDE GARY MOMINO, A HISTORIAN WHO HAS WRITTEN EXTENSIVELY
11:55:36 ON THE WORLD WAR II VETERANS.
11:55:38 I'M OKAY IF WE WORK WITH THE NEW VETERANS COMMITTEE.
11:55:42 BUT I WOULD JUST ASK, AND I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION,
11:55:45 BUT I WOULD ASK THAT THAT COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER AN AD HOC
11:55:49 GROUP OF WORLD WAR II VETERANS, AT LEAST A ROUNDTABLE
11:55:53 DISCUSSION.
11:55:54 BY THE WAY, I'M PERSONALLY HAPPY TO BUY FOOD AND SPONSOR IT,
11:55:57 IF YOU WANT.
11:55:57 BUT I THINK THE STORIES WOULD BE FASCINATING.
11:55:59 I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IN PARTICULAR WHATEVER
11:56:01 WORLD WAR II VETERANS WE COULD GET THAT WENT THROUGH THE
11:56:04 STATION THAT WE GET THEIR STORIES AND LISTEN TO THEM AND
11:56:07 HEAR WHAT THEY SAY SO WE CAN BE SENSITIVE TO THEM.
11:56:10 ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR MOVING THAT FORWARD.
11:56:12 I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRING THIS BACK ON FEBRUARY
11:56:15 2nd JUST FOR AN UPDATE.
11:56:18 >> SECOND.
11:56:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. WYNN.
11:56:22 >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR, WE'LL GLADLY DO THAT.
11:56:26 IF I MAY, WHAT I AM ASKING FOR FROM COUNCIL IS THAT IF YOU
11:56:30 HAVE MEMBERS WHO YOU THINK MAY BE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON
11:56:34 THE ADVISORY COUNCIL, IF YOU COULD GIVE THOSE NAMES TO ME.
11:56:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:56:40 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:56:41 AND THAT COUNCIL, I MOTIONED FOR THAT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
11:56:44 THAT'S COMING BACK TO US WHEN?
11:56:46 MAYBE IN A MONTH OR TWO.
11:56:49 SO IT SHOULD BE COMING BACK TO US.
11:56:53 HOWEVER YOU ALL WANT TO FORMULATE OR ANYTHING, WE HAD A
11:56:56 GENTLEMAN UP HERE, COLONEL DJ REYES WHO I'M SURE WILL BE ON
11:56:59 THAT.
11:57:00 THERE ARE A LOT OF WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
11:57:01 I HAVE A QUESTION, IF I MAY.
11:57:03 FOR A COUNCIL LIKE THAT, DO FOLKS HAVE TO LIVE IN CITY
11:57:06 LIMITS TO SERVE ON IT?
11:57:08 >>OCEA WYNN: I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN.
11:57:10 TYPICALLY, YES, THEY DO.
11:57:11 BUT I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AND ADVISE WITH OUR LEGAL STAFF AND
11:57:17 JUST TO SEE SPECIFICALLY, BUT, YES, THEY DO.
11:57:19 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S COMING BACK TO US IN A FEW WEEKS FROM
11:57:22 MY MOTION MAYBE LIKE A MONTH OR TWO AGO.
11:57:25 YEAH, BUT WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT WHENEVER.
11:57:28 >>OCEA WYNN: WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, UNDERSTANDING OF THAT
11:57:32 WAS FORTHCOMING, TRY TO INCLUDE THAT HERE, BUT I WOULD LIKE
11:57:35 TO COME BACK AND REPORT TO YOU IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT
11:57:37 THEY CAN LIVE IN THE CITY OR MUST LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS OR
11:57:40 NOT.
11:57:41 >>LUIS VIERA: SURE.
11:57:42 THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT UP, THIS IS
11:57:45 ACTUALLY A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT THIS COMMITTEE COULD DEAL
11:57:50 WITH ARE ISSUES LIKE THIS.
11:57:52 I'VE NOT SERVED.
11:57:53 MOST ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN THE THESE DAYS.
11:57:56 THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
11:57:58 AND TO HAVE A COMMITTEE LIKE THAT OF FOLKS WITH EXTRA
11:58:01 SENSITIVITY AND EXPERIENCE ON IT I THINK BRINGS A LOT.
11:58:03 THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF IT WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON
11:58:07 BRINGING UP THIS ISSUE AT UNION STATION AND THE HISTORY
11:58:10 THERE AND HAVING PEOPLE WHO ARE SENSITIVE TO IT EXTRA.
11:58:13 I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
11:58:14 THANK YOU.
11:58:14 >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
11:58:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:58:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAD ASKED ME THE OTHER DAY WHEN YOU
11:58:23 BRIEFED ME IF I KNEW OF ANYONE WHO WANTED TO SERVE.
11:58:26 MY SAD RESPONSE WAS, ALL MY WORLD WAR II VETERAN FRIENDS ARE
11:58:30 DEAD, EXCEPT THERE'S ONE PERSON I FORGOT ABOUT.
11:58:33 A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE'S BROTHER IS 99 YEARS OLD.
11:58:36 SERVED IN THE PACIFIC.
11:58:37 SAW BATTLE.
11:58:39 HE WAS RIGHT THERE AT THE FRONT LINES, AND I BELIEVE HE DID
11:58:42 GO THROUGH UNION STATION.
11:58:43 IF YOU MET HIM, YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE -- IF YOU TALKED TO HIM
11:58:47 ON THE PHONE, YOU WOULD THINK HE'S 50 YEARS OLD.
11:58:50 HE'S VERY SHARP.
11:58:51 I DON'T KNOW IF HE LIVES IN THE CITY LIMITS STILL OR NOT.
11:58:53 BUT I SEE HIM IN WEST TAMPA SOMETIMES.
11:58:55 AND THAT'S SOMEBODY THAT I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO WHO WOULD
11:59:00 TELL YOU ABOUT YBOR CITY.
11:59:00 HE GREW UP IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
11:59:02 I THINK GOING THROUGH THIS TRAIN STATION.
11:59:05 SO I THINK HE WOULD FIT PERFECT AND JUST SHY OF A HUNDRED
11:59:08 YEARS.
11:59:09 THIS IS EXCITING.
11:59:10 I'M GLAD WE'RE DOING THIS.
11:59:11 THEY CALL IT THE GREATEST GENERATION, AND THEY ARE FADING
11:59:15 AWAY EVERY DAY.
11:59:16 JUST TWO WEEKS AGO, COUNCILMAN VIERA HEARD HIM SPEAK IN
11:59:21 2020, HE WAS OVER HERE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE BANK OF AMERICA
11:59:24 BUILDING, WOODY WILLIAMS WHO WAS THE LAST SURVIVING MEDAL OF
11:59:26 HONOR RECIPIENT FROM WORLD WAR II.
11:59:29 HE PASSED AWAY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
11:59:32 THERE'S A SPECIAL GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS AND WE JUST HAVE TO
11:59:36 CHERISH THEM AND EMBRACE THEM AND LISTEN TO THEIR STORIES.
11:59:39 I THINK THIS IS PERFECT AS WE TEACH NEW GENERATIONS AND
11:59:42 YOUNGER GENERATIONS THAT NOW IT'S THEIR GREAT-GRANDPARENTS.
11:59:46 IT WAS MY GRANDFATHER THAT SERVED IN WORLD WAR II.
11:59:49 THEY ARE FADING QUICKLY, BUT I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE
11:59:54 FORGOTTEN FOR THEIR SACRIFICE.
11:59:56 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:59:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE
11:59:59 FLOOR.
12:00:00 AFTER YOU'VE HEARD FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, DO YOU STILL WANT
12:00:03 US TO VOTE ON IT?
12:00:04 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, TO BRING BACK ITEM 14 FOR AN UPDATE ON
12:00:08 FEBRUARY 2nd.
12:00:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:00:11 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:00:12 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:00:13 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
12:00:14 THANK YOU.
12:00:15 ALL RIGHT.
12:00:19 LET'S TALK ABOUT ITEM 15, CM22-73709.
12:00:27 >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
12:00:28 GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
12:00:30 VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
12:00:32 I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 15.
12:00:36 THIS IS RELATED TO A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO
12:00:40 BACK IN MARCH.
12:00:42 IT WAS CONTINUED BY MEMO TO MAY, WAS CONTINUED TO THIS DATE.
12:00:50 I DID SUBMIT A MEMO AND THE MEMO STANDS.
12:00:53 WE STILL DON'T KNOW HOW THE MONIES WILL BE SPENT, BUT THIS
12:00:57 IS RELATED TO THE TRANSPORTATION SURTAX.
12:01:01 SO LATE LAST WEEK, AS YOU ARE LIKELY FAMILIAR, JUDGE BARBAS
12:01:08 ISSUED AN ORDER RELATIVE TO THE TRANSPORTATION SURTAX.
12:01:12 THE ORDER BASICALLY LAYS OUT A FEW THINGS.
12:01:16 WITHIN TEN DAYS OF THE ORDER, THE CITY AND OTHER LOCAL
12:01:21 AGENCIES ARE REQUIRED TO TRANSFER MONIES THAT WERE COLLECTED
12:01:26 AND $57.8 MILLION WERE COLLECTED BY THE CITY, AND WE EARNED
12:01:31 INTEREST OF 1.16 MILLION BACK TO THE COUNTY CLERK.
12:01:35 I CAN CONFIRM THAT THIS TRANSFER HAS HAPPENED.
12:01:39 WE HAVE TRANSFERRED THE MONEY TO THE COUNTY CLERK.
12:01:41 WITHIN 20 DAYS OF RECEIPT OF THOSE FUNDS, THE CLERK IS
12:01:47 REQUIRED TO TRANSFER, THE COUNTY CLERK IS REQUIRED TO
12:01:50 TRANSFER THAT MONEY TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE.
12:01:54 AND THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE THEN WILL TREAT THESE FUNDS AS
12:01:59 A BUDGET APPROPRIATION SO THEY WILL BE DEEMED APPROPRIATED.
12:02:02 AND BY SEPTEMBER 1st, THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE IS
12:02:07 REQUIRED, BY THE ORDER, TO SUBMIT A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE
12:02:12 BUDGET COMMITTEE.
12:02:13 AND AS PART OF THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT, THE DEPARTMENT OF
12:02:17 REVENUE IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A PLAN FOR DISTRIBUTION OF
12:02:23 THOSE FUNDS.
12:02:23 SO THAT IS THE ORDER OF EVENTS.
12:02:28 BY SEPTEMBER 1st, THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE WILL BE
12:02:31 REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A PLAN TO THE LEGISLATURE, AND THEN IT'S
12:02:34 IN THE HANDS OF THE LEGISLATURE FROM THERE.
12:02:38 THAT'S AS MUCH AS WE KNOW AT THIS TIME.
12:02:41 WE DO HAVE DAVID HARVEY WITH LEGAL ALSO AVAILABLE TO ANSWER
12:02:46 ANY QUESTIONS.
12:02:46 WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
12:02:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:02:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BHIDE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT
12:02:55 VERY DETAILED REPORT.
12:02:56 THE RIGHT THING TO DO WOULD BE TO -- LET THE STATE GIVE US
12:03:04 -- YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THIS TAX, IF IT'S NOT
12:03:07 GOING TO PASS, IF WE CAN'T HAVE THIS, WHATEVER IT IS, AT
12:03:09 LEAST THE MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED AND RAISED WITH INTEREST
12:03:13 EARNED, IT SHOULD GO BACK TO THE CITIES BECAUSE IT'S SO
12:03:17 SPECIFIC ON WHAT WE CAN USE IT FOR.
12:03:19 WE GET CALLS ABOUT THE POOR QUALITY OF OUR ROADS.
12:03:23 OUR LACK OF SIDEWALKS, CHILDREN THAT CANNOT SAFELY WALK TO
12:03:29 SCHOOL, PEDESTRIAN DEATHS, BICYCLE DEATHS, MOTORCYCLE
12:03:32 DEATHS.
12:03:33 I MEAN, ON AND ON.
12:03:34 WE CAN PUT THIS MONEY TO SO MUCH GOOD.
12:03:37 I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTACTING MY REPRESENTATIVES.
12:03:41 WHOEVER I HAVE TO SPEAK TO, I MEAN, COME ON.
12:03:44 WE HAVE SUCH A BACKLOG IN THIS CITY.
12:03:47 WE'VE HAD SUCH A DELAY ON THINGS THAT THIS WOULD REALLY PUSH
12:03:51 US FORWARD AND HELP US CATCH UP ON PROJECTS THAT ARE SO
12:03:56 NECESSARY.
12:03:56 WHEN WE ARE OUT WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS, WE ARE OUT IN THE
12:03:59 NEIGHBORHOODS, FIRST THING -- I ANSWERED AN E-MAIL
12:04:01 YESTERDAY.
12:04:02 HAVE YOU SEEN THE SORRY CONDITION OF OUR ROADS?
12:04:04 YES.
12:04:04 I DRIVE THROUGH THERE ALMOST DAILY.
12:04:07 JUST THE BASIC NECESSITIES AND THIS MONEY IS SITTING THERE.
12:04:13 WHERE ELSE WOULD IT GO THAT IN MY OPINION WOULD BE WASTED,
12:04:16 UNLESS IT'S GOING TO GO TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH I DON'T
12:04:18 THINK SO.
12:04:19 IF IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE STATE LET IT AT LEAST COME BACK
12:04:23 TO US.
12:04:23 I THINK WE ALL SHOULD LOBBY OUR REPRESENTATIVES HARD SO THAT
12:04:28 WHEN SESSION BEGINS IN TALLAHASSEE, THAT THE MONEY GETS
12:04:32 APPROPRIATED BACK TO THE CITIES.
12:04:34 IT'S THE LEAST THEY CAN DO, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE
12:04:36 PREEMPTION, CUT US SOME SLACK, THROW US A BONE.
12:04:40 SO WE HAVE WORK TO DO IN LOBBYING OUR REPS.
12:04:43 THANK YOU.
12:04:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:04:45 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS MORNING IN AN ARTICLE, COMMISSIONER
12:04:49 OVERMAN SUGGESTED THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD SEND A WISH LIST TO
12:04:54 THE STATE.
12:04:56 I KNOW THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE SOME LIST OF THINGS WE TALKED
12:05:00 ABOUT IN THE PAST THAT YOU ALL HAVE, A PRIORITY LIST OF HOW
12:05:03 YOU COULD SPEND THIS MONEY, BUT DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
12:05:07 THE PROCESS, AS TO WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO START WITH SOME
12:05:09 KIND OF LIST OR IF THEY ASK FOR A LIST, WHAT LIST WOULD THEY
12:05:13 PROVIDE, AND IF THERE'S ENOUGH TIME, WOULD THERE BE TIME FOR
12:05:17 CITY COUNCIL AND/OR THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN ON THAT LIST
12:05:20 BEFORE YOU PROVIDE IT?
12:05:22 >>VIK BHIDE: SO WE DO NOT HAVE CLARITY ON THAT AT THIS TIME.
12:05:27 BUT AS THE -- BUT AS JUDGE BARBAS' ORDER READS, IT IS UP TO
12:05:33 THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE TO PROVIDE A PLAN.
12:05:36 HOW THEY WILL GET TO IT IS NOT CLEAR.
12:05:39 >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO WHO
12:05:43 ELOQUENTLY STATED THE PROBLEM, OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE
12:05:48 COMPLAINING EVERY DAY ABOUT LACK OF SIDEWALKS, LACK OF
12:05:50 CROSSWALKS, LACK OF BIKE LANES, POTHOLES, ROADS THAT ARE
12:05:55 JUST FALLING APART, AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX
12:06:00 THOSE.
12:06:00 BUT MY MAIN CONCERN, AND THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO MAKE
12:06:03 SURE WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, IS I DON'T WANT -- IF THE MONEY
12:06:08 COMES BACK AS A LUMP SUM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T GET
12:06:11 PUT INTO SOMETHING STUPID LIKE A $12 MILLION BOATHOUSE IN
12:06:15 JULIAN LANE PARK.
12:06:16 I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT A PET PROJECT, THAT IT'S
12:06:20 SOMETHING NEEDED BY THE PUBLIC.
12:06:21 NOT SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY CAN PUT THEIR NAME ON, BUT
12:06:23 SOMETHING THAT SOLVES THE ACTUAL PROBLEMS THAT THE PUBLIC IS
12:06:25 INTERESTED IN US SOLVING.
12:06:27 THANK YOU.
12:06:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
12:06:29 COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAD MY ATTENTION.
12:06:32 I'M SORRY.
12:06:33 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU'RE COOL.
12:06:35 DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, MR. CHAIR.
12:06:36 I APPRECIATE THAT.
12:06:38 THE BIGGEST THING THAT I HEAR AND THAT I SEE OUT THERE FROM
12:06:42 PEOPLE THAT KNOW THIS IS A SENSE OF ANGER AND FRUSTRATION
12:06:46 BECAUSE OUR ROADS ARE IN A CRISIS, AND THEY RESULT IN NOT
12:06:50 JUST INCONVENIENCE TO PEOPLE, BUT IT CUTS PEOPLE OFF FROM
12:06:54 JOBS, FROM PARTS OF CITY OF TAMPA, PARTS OF OUR COUNTY,
12:06:57 ET CETERA, AND IT ALSO RESULTS IN ACCIDENTS AND INJURIES,
12:07:03 SOMETIMES DEATH, ET CETERA, BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS OF OUR
12:07:06 ROADS.
12:07:06 AND IT'S AWFUL.
12:07:08 PEOPLE ARE REALLY, REALLY ANGRY.
12:07:10 THEY'VE SPENT THEIR HARD-EARNED MONEY.
12:07:14 A PORTION OF THAT IS GOING TO THIS TAX AND THEY HAVEN'T
12:07:16 GOTTEN THE BENEFIT OF IT.
12:07:18 AND IT'S BEEN, GOSH, THIS PASSED IN NOVEMBER OF 2018.
12:07:21 AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO CITE THE NUMBERS THAT PASSED.
12:07:24 I THINK IT GOT 57% COUNTYWIDE AS I RECALL IN NEW TAMPA,
12:07:28 33647, OVER THREE OUT OF FIVE VOTERS IN THE SUBURBS SAID
12:07:33 PLEASE RAISE MY TAXES.
12:07:35 RAISE MY TAXES BECAUSE OUR ROADS ARE SO AWFUL, BECAUSE WE
12:07:39 NEED BETTER TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS, ET CETERA.
12:07:41 YET THREE AND A HALF, WHATEVER YEARS LATER, HERE WE ARE
12:07:44 STILL DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE.
12:07:48 AND I DO HOPE THAT TALLAHASSEE -- YOU KNOW, I WAS LAUGHING
12:07:53 WHAT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID ABOUT THROWING US A BONE.
12:07:57 IT'S SAD THAT WE HAVE TO UTILIZE THAT KIND OF HUMOROUS
12:08:00 LANGUAGE IN THROWING US A BONE BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH
12:08:03 TALLAHASSEE BECAUSE OF NOT ONLY BEING PREEMPTED BUT WHEN YOU
12:08:06 TAKE A LOOK AT A LOT OF THE THINGS THEY SPEND TIME ON IN
12:08:09 TALLAHASSEE, YOU GO THERE IS NO CAUSAL LINK BETWEEN WHAT
12:08:12 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TALLAHASSEE AND THE EVERYDAY LIVES
12:08:14 OF FLORIDIANS AND THEIR STRUGGLES.
12:08:16 AND SO I HOPE THAT OUR GOOD FRIENDS IN TALLAHASSEE DO THE
12:08:20 RIGHT THING ON THIS.
12:08:21 I KNOW WE'LL BE PICKING UP THE PHONE AND TALKING TO MY DEAR
12:08:25 FRIEND, THE GREATEST STATE REPRESENTATIVE IN FLORIDA,
12:08:29 DRISCOLL, ON THIS.
12:08:31 JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS.
12:08:33 MR. HARVEY, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE, LEGAL
12:08:36 ANALYSIS.
12:08:37 THANK YOU, SIR.
12:08:38 I USED TO WORK WITH DAVID FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
12:08:41 THANK YOU.
12:08:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
12:08:42 I FIND IT VERY AMUSING.
12:08:45 THERE IS NO PHYSICAL MONEY.
12:08:47 UNLESS YOU HAVE CASH, THERE IS NO PHYSICAL MONEY ANYMORE.
12:08:49 BUT HOWEVER, CITY OF TAMPA HAS SOME FUNDS THAT MAY BE
12:08:54 COLLECTED FROM THIS TAX THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM TO
12:08:56 TALLAHASSEE JUST SO WE GET THEM RIGHT BACK.
12:09:00 IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
12:09:03 MR. BHIDE, AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT.
12:09:06 I APPRECIATE IT.
12:09:07 LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
12:09:10 ITEM NUMBER 16, CM22-75287.
12:09:19 DO WE HAVE CHIEF O'CONNOR AND CHIEF TRIPP WITH US?
12:09:30 >> CHIEF TRIPP IS UNAVAILABLE.
12:09:32 ASSISTANT CHIEF TODD ALT IS HERE IN HER PLACE.
12:09:37 >> MEGAN NEWCOMB FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TEXTED ME THAT
12:09:41 CHIEF O'CONNOR HAD A LUNCH APPOINTMENT SHE HAD TO BE AT AND
12:09:46 IS SENDING SOMEONE OVER, AND THEY ARE ON THE WAY, BUT SHE'S
12:09:50 NOT SURE HOW QUICKLY THAT PERSON CAN GET HERE.
12:09:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM ATU RIGHT NOW.
12:09:56 SIMON, HOW ARE YOU DOING?
12:09:58 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL.
12:10:01 HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
12:10:01 I'M HERE TO REPORT ON THE PROCESS OF THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE
12:10:06 MONTH AWARD.
12:10:09 VERY SHORT AND SWEET.
12:10:11 WE HAVE EMPLOYEES CAN NOMINATE EACH OTHER, AND THEN THEY
12:10:15 FILL OUT A FORM, A NOMINEE FORM.
12:10:18 IT GOES UP THE CHAIN THROUGH MANAGEMENT FOR VERIFICATION
12:10:21 BECAUSE WE CAN ALL CALL OURSELVES BEST EMPLOYEE.
12:10:25 AND THEN OVER TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF'S OFFICE.
12:10:28 ONCE THE CHIEF OF STAFF'S OFFICE RECEIVES ALL OF THE
12:10:30 NOMINEES, THEN THEY ARE SENT TO MY OFFICE AND THEN MY
12:10:33 EXECUTIVE BOARD GOES THROUGH ALL OF THE NOMINEES AND SELECTS
12:10:36 THE WINNER.
12:10:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
12:10:41 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:10:42 >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL DEFER TO COUNCILMAN GUDES FIRST.
12:10:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:10:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU'RE SAYING THAT NOMINATIONS OR EMPLOYEES
12:10:52 CAN NOMINATE AND IT GOES TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF VERSUS GOING
12:10:55 THROUGH THE ATU?
12:10:57 >> NO, FROM THE CHIEF OF STAFF'S OFFICE, THE NOMINEES COME
12:11:00 TO MY OFFICE.
12:11:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS MY BIGGEST POINT WAS, I TALKED TO
12:11:06 MS. WYNN A WHILE BACK ABOUT EMPLOYEES WHO ARE NOT UNIONIZED
12:11:11 NOT BEING A PART.
12:11:12 NOW I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE NOW, IS THAT
12:11:16 CORRECT?
12:11:18 >> CAN YOU REPHRASE THAT?
12:11:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY UNDERSTANDING, BEFORE NOMINEES WERE
12:11:22 MADE, IF THEY WERE NOT ATU MEMBER THEY COULD NOT BE
12:11:26 SELECTED.
12:11:26 >> WELL, A PART OF THE ATU BARGAINING UNIT.
12:11:31 THAT'S HOW IT STARTED.
12:11:33 WHEN COUNCILMAN VIERA AND I DISCUSSED IT, THAT'S WHO I
12:11:37 REPRESENT.
12:11:38 AND I TALKED TO COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN WE CREATED THE
12:11:43 ENTIRE PROCESS.
12:11:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WAS MY CONCERN DOWN THE ROAD.
12:11:48 EVEN WITH THE OTHER UNIONS, EVEN IF I'M NOT A UNION
12:11:51 EMPLOYEE, I COULD STILL BE NOMINATED AS POLICE OFFICER OF
12:11:53 THE MONTH.
12:11:54 I DON'T HAVE TO BE A UNION EMPLOYEE TO GET THAT NOMINATION
12:11:57 BECAUSE I AM A POLICE OFFICER.
12:11:59 I'M DOING THE SAME DUTIES AS THAT UNION PERSON.
12:12:02 I GUESS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IF THAT'S THE CASE, SINCE GENERAL
12:12:07 EMPLOYEES, IS THERE A MOVE TO LOOK AT HAVING A GENERAL
12:12:11 EMPLOYEE OR IT ALL STILL FALLS ON ATU FOR ALL GENERAL
12:12:15 EMPLOYEES.
12:12:16 >> WELL, I REPRESENT THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES WITH THE
12:12:19 BARGAINING UNIT.
12:12:20 SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LET'S SAY POLICE AND FIRE
12:12:23 BECAUSE THEY ARE DEPARTMENTS AND I ALSO REPRESENT EMPLOYEES
12:12:27 WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENT.
12:12:28 BUT I REPRESENT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY.
12:12:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIGHT.
12:12:31 BUT I THINK THE KEYWORD, IF THEY WERE NOT A UNION PERSON,
12:12:34 YOU REPRESENT THE BARGAINING UNIT, IF THEY ARE NOT A UNION
12:12:38 PERSON THEY COULDN'T BE NOMINATED TO BE A CANDIDATE FOR THE
12:12:41 EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
12:12:44 >> WELL, ANYBODY WITHIN THE BARGAINING UNIT, WHETHER THEY
12:12:48 ARE A DUES-PAYING UNION MEMBER OR NOT CAN BE NOMINATED.
12:12:54 I FEEL RESPONSIBLE PERSONALLY FOR ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES
12:12:57 BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY, WHATEVER WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE ON
12:13:01 BEHALF OF THE BARGAINING UNIT ALSO THE MANAGEMENT.
12:13:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE REASON I QUESTION, I KNOW ONE EMPLOYEE
12:13:09 WAS NOT SELECTED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT A PART OF THE BARGAINING
12:13:13 UNIT.
12:13:14 AND THAT'S WHY I QUESTIONED THAT AND THAT'S WHY A LOT OF
12:13:16 THIS IS COMING ABOUT ON TOP OF SOME OF THE OTHER POLICE
12:13:20 STUFF.
12:13:21 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY EMPLOYEE, NO MATTER IF ATU
12:13:25 MEMBER OF THE GENERAL EMPLOYEE UNION, ANY EMPLOYEE CAN BE
12:13:29 SELECTED AND NOMINATED FOR EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
12:13:32 >> YES.
12:13:33 CORRECTION IN REGARDS TO WHAT YOU JUST STATED BECAUSE HE WAS
12:13:35 A PART OF THE BARGAINING UNIT.
12:13:37 HE JUST WASN'T SELECTED THROUGH THE PROCESS.
12:13:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
12:13:42 MAKE CLEAR THAT ANY GENERAL EMPLOYEE, WHETHER THEY ARE A
12:13:45 UNION-PAYING MEMBER OR NOT CAN BE SELECTED TO THE PROCESS.
12:13:48 >> ABSOLUTELY.
12:13:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:13:53 >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT, BUT JUST AS
12:13:57 AN ASIDE, I SPOKE TO YOU THIS MORNING AND WE WERE TALKING
12:14:01 ABOUT THE FACT THAT WITH YOUR CONTRACT RATIFICATION VOTE
12:14:05 THAT YOU GOT ALMOST, WHAT, 920 MEMBERS TO VOTE, WHICH IS THE
12:14:12 HIGHEST, ALMOST DOUBLE TURNOUT FROM THREE YEARS AGO.
12:14:16 >> YES, MA'AM.
12:14:16 >>LYNN HURTAK: CONGRATULATIONS FOR THAT.
12:14:18 >> THANK YOU.
12:14:18 >>LYNN HURTAK: REPRESENTS 60% OF THE CITY STAFF WHICH IS
12:14:21 ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL AND I COMMEND YOU ON THE WORK THAT
12:14:24 YOU'RE DOING.
12:14:25 MY ONLY QUESTION, AND I DON'T WANT TO STEAL ANY OTHER
12:14:32 DEPARTMENT'S THUNDER, BUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S ORDER FOR
12:14:41 THIS REQUIRES A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.
12:14:43 IN FACT, THAT THEY ACTUALLY LOOK AT, SAY, A PERSON'S RECORD
12:14:48 AND THAT SORT OF THING, ARE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, WOULD YOU
12:14:53 BE AMENABLE TO MAYBE ADDING A FEW MORE, MORE SPECIFIC
12:15:00 CRITERIA?
12:15:00 THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK, MAKE SURE NO ONE HAS ANY
12:15:03 DISCIPLINARIAN THINGS IN THEIR FILES, FROM MAYBE A YEAR AGO,
12:15:07 UP TO THREE YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
12:15:09 >> WELL, YES.
12:15:11 ALSO INCLUDED THAT YOU HAVE TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND YOUR
12:15:14 NORMAL SCOPE OF DUTIES.
12:15:15 >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
12:15:16 THANK YOU.
12:15:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:15:21 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ONE QUICK THING.
12:15:22 I ALSO SPOKE TO MR. SIMON YESTERDAY BRIEFLY ABOUT THIS.
12:15:25 MY SUGGESTION IS THERE IS A CERTAIN SMALL SUBSET OF THE CITY
12:15:31 STAFF WHO ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ANY OF THE THREE UNIONS.
12:15:37 IF SOMEONE, A LEADER OF THAT GROUP THINKS WE SHOULD HAVE
12:15:43 SOME KIND OF EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH OR QUARTER AWARD FOR THAT
12:15:46 GROUP, MY SUGGESTION IS IT WOULD BE A SEPARATE AWARD, NOT TO
12:15:51 CANNIBALIZE FROM ANY OF THE THREE OUT THERE.
12:15:54 IF SOMEBODY IN ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES FEELS THAT
12:15:58 WE'RE MISSING THEIR GROUP FOR SOME REASON, PLEASE LET US
12:16:01 KNOW SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT.
12:16:02 THANK YOU.
12:16:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:16:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TALKED ABOUT
12:16:06 DISCIPLINE.
12:16:06 THAT'S LIKE SAYING A POLICE OFFICER JUMPED IN A BUILDING TO
12:16:12 SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND DID IT TWICE WITHIN LESS THAN TWO
12:16:15 OR THREE MONTHS.
12:16:16 SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS.
12:16:17 I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HE GOT DISCIPLINED
12:16:23 TWO, THREE YEARS AGO FOR HIM DOING A GREAT JOB.
12:16:25 I'VE BEEN THERE.
12:16:28 I UNDERSTAND.
12:16:29 I RECEIVED THAT AWARD.
12:16:30 I KNOW WHAT THOSE GUYS GO THROUGH.
12:16:32 I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S CRITERIA, BUT I
12:16:34 CAN TELL YOU TO BE HONORED WHEN YOU SAVE A LIFE OR DOING
12:16:39 THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND, I DON'T
12:16:42 THINK THAT DISCIPLINE SHOULD BE GOING THAT FAR BACK TO
12:16:46 HINDER THAT PERSON FROM BEING GIVEN AN ACCOLADE FOR DOING A
12:16:51 GOOD JOB AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
12:16:53 MY PERSONAL OPINION.
12:16:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM MR. SIMON, THE
12:16:57 PROCESS WORKED BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEES NOMINATING EMPLOYEES.
12:17:00 AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH THE SYSTEM, GOES THROUGH THE
12:17:03 MANAGEMENT AND THEN IT HITS THE DESK OF MR. BENNETT, CHIEF
12:17:06 OF STAFF, AND THEN THEY JUST LOOK AT THEM.
12:17:09 THEY DON'T MAKE A CHOICE.
12:17:11 IT GOES BACK TO YOU AND YOUR BOARD MAKES A CHOICE, WHOEVER,
12:17:15 FOUR, FIVE INDIVIDUALS, HE OR SHE AND FIRE AND POLICE
12:17:21 DEPARTMENT THE SAME WAY, THEN YOU MAKE THE CHOICE.
12:17:24 NOT YOU, YOUR BOARD.
12:17:25 >> CORRECT.
12:17:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHOEVER GETS THE MOST VOTES WINS.
12:17:28 LIKE A CITY ELECTION.
12:17:29 GET ENOUGH VOTES, YOU SERVE.
12:17:31 YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH VOTES, YOU SERVE YOURSELF.
12:17:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
12:17:40 THANK YOU, SIR.
12:17:43 I SEE WE HAVE A FIRE RESCUE CHIEF THAT'S ON BOARD WITH US.
12:17:49 >> YES, SIR.
12:17:50 CHIEF ALT HERE.
12:17:54 CHIEF TRIPP WAS UNABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY, SO I'M FILLING IN
12:17:58 FOR HER.
12:17:58 CHIEF TODD ALT, ASSISTANT CHIEF OF OPERATIONS FOR TAMPA FIRE
12:18:02 RESCUE.
12:18:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE US A BRIEF
12:18:06 RUN-THROUGH ON HOW THE FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER IS PICKED?
12:18:09 >> OUR FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER IS PICKED BY SUPERVISORS
12:18:12 OR OTHER PEOPLE WHO CAN PUT NAMES IN FOR PEOPLE THAT THEY
12:18:16 FEEL HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND AND SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED FOR
12:18:20 THAT.
12:18:21 THE INDIVIDUALS ARE -- TYPICALLY A LETTER IS SUBMITTED WITH
12:18:29 THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS OR ACHIEVEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE DONE TO
12:18:30 ATTAIN SUCH STATUS.
12:18:32 AND THAT'S GIVEN TO THE AWARDS COMMITTEE.
12:18:35 AND THE AWARDS COMMITTEE THEN REVIEWS THOSE AND VETS THOSE
12:18:39 THROUGH AND DETERMINES WHICH ONE WOULD BE THE BEST
12:18:43 SELECTION.
12:18:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
12:18:46 THANK YOU, CHIEF.
12:18:51 >> THANK YOU.
12:18:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM TPD HERE.
12:19:01 >> GOOD MORNING.
12:19:03 I'M CAPTAIN KIMBERLY HILL.
12:19:05 I'M OVER THE SUPPORT -- SPECIAL SUPPORT -- SORRY, WE JUST
12:19:10 CHANGED OUR TITLE.
12:19:11 IT'S NOW THE SPECIAL SUPPORT DIVISION.
12:19:14 I'M THE CAPTAIN OVER THAT UNIT AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF
12:19:17 CHIEF MARY O'CONNOR.
12:19:18 SO ACTUALLY SAME WAY FIRE JUST DESCRIBED.
12:19:22 ANYONE CAN PUT AN OFFICER IN FOR AN AWARD.
12:19:24 THAT AWARD GOES THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND TO THE
12:19:27 PERSONNEL UNIT.
12:19:28 THE PERSONNEL UNIT ENSURES THAT ALL OF STAFF RECEIVE THE
12:19:32 AWARD AHEAD OF TIME TO REVIEW.
12:19:35 ONCE A MONTH DURING STAFF THEY ARE TALKED ABOUT WITH ALL OF
12:19:38 THE MAJORS AND CHIEFS AND THEY DECIDE WHO GETS THE AWARDS.
12:19:41 THAT'S THEN BROUGHT BACK DOWN TO THE PERSONNEL UNIT AND WE
12:19:45 NOTIFY THE AWARD RECIPIENTS AND HAVE A MONTHLY CEREMONY.
12:19:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
12:19:50 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:19:56 >> THANK YOU.
12:20:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE TEN MINUTES UNTIL
12:20:02 OUR HARD STOP.
12:20:05 WE HAVE FIVE AGENDA ITEMS LEFT FOR STAFF.
12:20:09 DO WE WANT TO POWER THROUGH THOSE SO STAFF CAN GO BACK TO
12:20:14 WORK OR DO WE WANT TO GO TO LUNCH?
12:20:16 ALL OR NOTHING AT ALL.
12:20:24 >>LUIS VIERA: TO QUOTE FRANK SINATRA, YEAH, I CAN -- I MEAN,
12:20:28 IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE MAKER.
12:20:30 LIKE WITH MINE, IT LITERALLY TAKES TWO SECONDS.
12:20:33 I COULD GO THROUGH MINE IN TWO SECONDS.
12:20:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S DO IT THEN.
12:20:39 AGENDA ITEM 17, CM 21-71643.
12:20:43 >>LUIS VIERA: TO SAVE TIME -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:20:46 ON THESE, I KNOW THERE'S A MEMO.
12:20:49 25 IS COMING ALONG.
12:20:51 I WAS TOLD IT WAS GOING TO BE FINISHED UP REALLY, REALLY
12:20:54 SOON.
12:20:55 24 DEALS WITH K-BAR RANCH.
12:20:57 TO SAVE TIME, UNLESS IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT, I CAN
12:21:01 MAKE A MOTION FOR THIS TO COME BACK TO US.
12:21:04 I LIKE TO STAY ON THESE TWO STATIONS.
12:21:08 IN OCTOBER.
12:21:08 OCTOBER 20th DATE.
12:21:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 25 IS DUE TO COME ONLINE AT THE END OF THE
12:21:17 MONTH.
12:21:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CORRECT.
12:21:19 JULY 18.
12:21:20 >>LUIS VIERA: IT SHOULD MORE OR LESS.
12:21:23 YES, SIR.
12:21:23 THAT WILL BE COMING.
12:21:24 24 IS SCHEDULED I BELIEVE TO BE K-BAR RANCH.
12:21:27 BUT, YEAH, 25 IS ALMOST FINISHED.
12:21:30 I WAS OUT THERE YESTERDAY.
12:21:33 AND IT'S ALMOST DONE, AND I THANK TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND
12:21:37 EVERYBODY FOR THEIR -- AND FACILITIES AND EVERYBODY FOR
12:21:40 THEIR HARD WORK BECAUSE THINGS HAVE BEEN DELAYED BECAUSE OF
12:21:44 ALL OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE BEEN HAVING.
12:21:46 THAT'S IT.
12:21:46 UNLESS IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.
12:21:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
12:21:49 THANK YOU.
12:21:50 AGENDA ITEM 18, CM 22 --
12:21:54 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE VOTE?
12:21:55 MOTION.
12:21:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OCTOBER 20th.
12:21:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:22:00 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:22:02 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:22:04 >> AYE.
12:22:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY AGAINST?
12:22:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GOT THE M ANYWAY.
12:22:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 18, CM 22-75389, MS. WYNN.
12:22:16 >>OCEA WYNN: YES, GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
12:22:19 IN THIS AGENDA ITEM, YOU ASKED STAFF TO APPEAR AND PROVIDE A
12:22:24 REPORT REGARDING THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES AND LEGAL BOUNDARIES
12:22:29 THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN HAVE IN SOME OF THE PROBLEMATIC
12:22:36 BUILDINGS, BUILDINGS WITH APARTMENT RENTALS WITH FIVE OR
12:22:40 MORE UNITS.
12:22:42 AND ALSO TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT TO
12:22:49 THE STATE.
12:22:49 I WANT TO SAY THAT THERE IS NO MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT WITH THE
12:22:52 STATE.
12:22:53 I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON RECORD.
12:22:55 I WILL, HOWEVER, HAVE KEITH O'CONNOR TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON
12:23:02 SOME OF THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES.
12:23:06 >> THANK YOU, MS. WYNN.
12:23:08 GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
12:23:09 KEITH O'CONNOR, NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT MANAGER.
12:23:11 APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND EXPLAIN THE SITUATION
12:23:15 WITH THE MULTIFAMILY COMPLEXES AND THE CHALLENGES THAT WE
12:23:20 ALL ARE WELL AWARE OF.
12:23:22 WE DID HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT, AND I JUST WANT TO START OFF BY
12:23:26 SAYING AS MANY OF YOU HAVE, I HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN OUT TO
12:23:29 SILVER OAKS AND TIMBERFALLS TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
12:23:33 I'M GOING TO TALK IN GENERAL TERMS ABOUT COMPLEXES WITH FIVE
12:23:37 OR MORE UNITS, WHICH THOSE FALL INTO, AND THEN I'LL GET DOWN
12:23:41 TO SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING MADE THAT WE CAN
12:23:45 ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
12:23:46 SO IN GENERAL TERMS, WHEN WE GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT THOSE
12:23:50 COMPLEXES, WE ADDRESS ALL THE COMPLAINTS.
12:23:52 SOMETIMES IT'S REFERRED TO THE STATE.
12:23:54 SOMETIMES IT'S REFERRED TO HUD.
12:23:57 SOMETIMES WE HANDLE IT.
12:23:58 WE CAN ALWAYS HANDLE EXTERIOR COMPLAINTS IN THE PARKING
12:24:01 LOTS, IN THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDINGS.
12:24:03 THE STICKY POINT WAS COMING INTO THE INTERIOR INSPECTIONS OF
12:24:07 THOSE BUILDINGS AND THE PREEMPTION FROM THE STATE, WHICH IS
12:24:10 A STATE STATUTE THAT PREEMPTS THOSE INSPECTIONS AND THE
12:24:15 STATUTE STILL STANDS.
12:24:16 BUT BASED ON, AND THESE ARE TWO GOOD EXAMPLES.
12:24:20 SILVER OAKS AND TIMBERFALLS.
12:24:22 WE'VE ALL BEEN DEALING WITH THEM FOR OVER A YEAR.
12:24:25 WE'VE LOOKED INTO WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WE CAN DO TO MAKE
12:24:28 THINGS BETTER.
12:24:29 WE AS A STAFF, JUST AS YOU DO, WANT THE RESIDENTS OF THESE
12:24:34 COMPLEXES TO LIVE IN SAFE, STRUCTURALLY SOUND UNITS LIKE
12:24:38 THEY DESERVE TO.
12:24:40 SO WE'VE HAD MANY MEETINGS WITH LEGAL.
12:24:43 WE'VE HAD MANY MEETINGS WITH THE STATE.
12:24:45 WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH THE COUNTY AND HUD.
12:24:49 AND JUST TO GET TO WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT, AT THIS POINT
12:24:53 GOING FORWARD, CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL CITE PROPERTIES, IF WE
12:24:58 GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE ARE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE, IF
12:25:00 THE RESOURCES OF THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ARE
12:25:04 NOT ADDRESSING THE PROBLEMS, WE ARE NOW GOING TO CITE THE
12:25:07 PROBLEMS AND MOVE FORWARD.
12:25:09 THAT WAS BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE RESEARCH THE
12:25:15 LEGAL DEPARTMENT DID BASED ON SPEAKING WITH THOSE OTHER
12:25:18 ENTITIES AND FINDING OUT WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO.
12:25:22 WE ARE NOT GOING TO THEN JUST LEAVE IT AND LET THE PLACES
12:25:26 CONTINUE TO DETERIORATE.
12:25:27 SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE GOING FORWARD.
12:25:29 AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR THE LEGAL STAFF,
12:25:32 WE'RE HERE.
12:25:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:25:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:25:38 WE APPRECIATE IT.
12:25:39 AS YOU MENTIONED, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC THIS MORNING.
12:25:42 NOT ONLY ARE THEY LIVING IN TERRIBLE CONDITIONS, WHEN I
12:25:46 HEARD THE ONE SPEAKER TALK ABOUT A RAT NIBBLING AT A BABY'S
12:25:52 MOUTH, I MEAN, I CLOSED MY EYES, I CRINGED.
12:25:58 NOBODY DESERVES TO LIVE LIKE THAT.
12:26:00 ON TOP OF THAT, THEY ARE FACING EVICTION WITH WHAT I THINK
12:26:03 IS A SCAM OF THEIR RENT IS PAID ALL THE WAY UNTIL JULY.
12:26:08 THEN THEY ARE SLAPPED ON WITH THESE EXTRA FEES.
12:26:11 THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO COVER THOSE EXTRA FEES AND THEY
12:26:14 ARE FACING EVICTION.
12:26:15 WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR CIVILIZATION AND SOCIETY THAT WE MAKE
12:26:19 PEOPLE LIVE IN GARBAGE CONDITIONS AND THEN WE THREATEN TO
12:26:22 THROW THEM OUT ON THE STREET AFTER -- I MEAN, HOW MUCH --
12:26:25 HOW MUCH GREED?
12:26:26 WHEN DOES IT EVER STOP?
12:26:28 WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF OURSELVES THAT WE TREAT PEOPLE LIKE
12:26:31 THIS, ESPECIALLY WHEN I BELIEVE HOUSING IS A RIGHT AND
12:26:34 DECENT HOUSING IS A RIGHT AND PEOPLE LIVING IN RESPECTABLE
12:26:38 CONDITIONS.
12:26:39 YOU'VE EXPLAINED IT, HOW WE APPROACH THESE PROPERTY OWNERS.
12:26:44 I THINK IT'S DISGUSTING HOW THEY ACT.
12:26:46 IF THEY RAISE RENTS AND ACT LIKE THIS, AT LEAST TAKE CARE OF
12:26:49 THEIR PROPERTY AND LET PEOPLE LIVE WITH DIGNITY AND IN
12:26:53 PEACE.
12:26:54 I'LL STOP THERE AND WAIT TO HEAR WHAT MY OTHER COLLEAGUES
12:26:57 HAVE TO SAY.
12:26:58 I APPRECIATE YOUR REPORT, SIR.
12:26:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:27:00 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:27:01 AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, SIR.
12:27:03 I KNOW WE'VE BEEN OUT TO TIMBERFALLS AND I THANK YOU FOR
12:27:07 YOUR WORK AND EFFORT IN THAT REGARD AND FOR ALL OF THE
12:27:09 CITY'S WORK.
12:27:10 I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION, IF I MAY, AT THE END OF THIS VERY
12:27:14 BRIEFLY, ON THIS ISSUE, BUT AGAIN, WHAT I SAW, WENT OUT
12:27:19 AGAIN MONDAY AND AGAIN YESTERDAY AT TIMBERFALLS IT KIND OF
12:27:23 APPEARED TO BE FROM THE ALLEGATIONS MADE, FROM WHAT I SAW IN
12:27:25 THE VIOLATIONS, KIND OF A NEW LOW THERE, AND IT REALLY,
12:27:29 REALLY ANGERED ME A GREAT DEAL.
12:27:30 IT REALLY, REALLY FRUSTRATED ME.
12:27:32 I WASN'T PLANNING ON DOING THIS, BUT ON MONDAY, WHEN I WENT
12:27:36 TO MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS, I MARCHED DOWN WITH ABOUT A
12:27:39 DOZEN OF THEM TO SEE THE MANAGER AND GO, WHAT IN THE WORLD
12:27:42 IS HAPPENING HERE?
12:27:43 THERE'S GOT TO BE A RATIONAL EXPLANATION FOR THIS.
12:27:46 SO FAR, I HAVE NOT SEEN IT.
12:27:47 YOU'RE HAVING RESIDENTS THAT ARE TOLD THAT THEY ARE BETWEEN
12:27:51 500, THOUSAND DOLLARS, SIX, SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS, THAT
12:27:55 THEY OWE TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS THERE.
12:27:58 JUST, AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES A GREAT DEAL OF
12:28:02 SCRUTINY AND I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN THE MOTIONS.
12:28:05 SOMETHING YOU MENTIONED THAT'S VERY, VERY TRUE WITH REGARDS
12:28:08 TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHICH IS THAT WE HAVE VERY LIMITED
12:28:10 POWER IN THIS REGARD.
12:28:11 BUT THE GREAT POWER THAT WE DO HAVE IS WE CAN USE OUR
12:28:14 OFFICES.
12:28:14 WE CAN USE OUR VOICES.
12:28:16 WE CAN GO OUT THERE AND TELL IT AND GET OUTRAGE TO FOSTER
12:28:20 CHANGE ON THESE ISSUES.
12:28:22 AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AND THAT'S WHAT I'LL
12:28:24 TALK ABOUT, IF I MAY, IN THE MOTIONS.
12:28:27 AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS, SIR.
12:28:31 >> CAN I ADD ONE THING?
12:28:32 JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO WHAT I NEED AND WHAT CODE ENFORCEMENT
12:28:36 NEEDS FROM THE CITIZENS IS A COMPLAINT.
12:28:39 THEY NEED TO CALL IN WITH A SPECIFIC APARTMENT THAT WE CAN
12:28:42 THEN GO AND DO AN INVESTIGATION IN.
12:28:45 WE CAN'T DO IT IN BROAD TERMS.
12:28:47 I CAN'T WALK IN THERE AND JUST SAY I'M GOING TO LOOK AT
12:28:50 EVERY APARTMENT HERE.
12:28:51 SO IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO GIVE OUT THE NUMBER TO OUR CALL
12:28:54 CENTER.
12:28:55 CALL US DIRECTLY AND WE'LL GET THE COMPLAINT LOGGED IN AND
12:28:58 GET THE INVESTIGATION GOING.
12:29:00 813-274-5545.
12:29:05 274-5545.
12:29:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITH AN 813 IN FRONT OF IT.
12:29:13 >> YES.
12:29:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:29:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:29:16 I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THAT WHEN YOU HEAR OR WE HEAR THE
12:29:20 TERM "NEW MANAGEMENT," LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT'S
12:29:25 HAPPENING, THAT THE BUILDING, THE COMPLEX WAS SO -- I
12:29:29 BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO START, FIND OUT WHO BOUGHT THE BUILDING
12:29:32 AND I'M NOT TRYING TO TELL YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WHAT TO DO,
12:29:35 BUT WE HAVE TO FIND OUT WHO IS THE CAN DO SO THAT OWNS THE
12:29:38 BUILDING OR THE INDIVIDUALS THAT OWN, AND SUBMIT THEM TO
12:29:43 WHAT WE JUST HEARD.
12:29:45 I AGREE WITH MR. MANISCALCO.
12:29:46 THE ONLY THING I DISAGREE WHEN HE SAID IT WAS WE.
12:29:49 IT AIN'T WE.
12:29:50 IT'S THEM AND THEY.
12:29:51 THEM AND THEY ARE THE ONES -- WE'RE THE ONES HEARING IT AND
12:29:55 WE'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO TAKE THE ACTION TO START
12:29:57 SOMETHING THAT THE STATE TOOK AWAY FROM US SIX, SEVEN YEARS
12:30:00 AGO, WHEN IT WAS ALL UNITS.
12:30:02 THEN THEY SAID, NO, ANYTHING OVER FIVE WE'RE GOING TO
12:30:05 HANDLE.
12:30:05 AND THAT'S WHAT STARTED THE HASSLE.
12:30:10 SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN COME TO SOME CONCLUSION BECAUSE WHAT I
12:30:13 HEARD TODAY, IT'S NOT ONLY NOT ACCEPTABLE, IT'S LIKE
12:30:18 STEALING MONEY.
12:30:19 HOW CAN YOU TELL SOMEBODY YOUR RENT IS PAID THROUGH JULY,
12:30:23 BUT WE OWE SO MUCH NOW MORE, THEY PAID $1300 AND NOW THEY
12:30:27 ARE GOING TO KICK THEM OUT?
12:30:28 I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PARAMETERS.
12:30:33 SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO THINK OF, THEY WANT ALL THE CASH UP
12:30:36 FRONT SO THEY CAN PAY THEIR ATTORNEYS, I GUESS WHAT'S
12:30:40 COMING.
12:30:41 THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF.
12:30:43 THEY USE THE SAME MONIES FROM THE TENANTS OVER AND ABOVE
12:30:46 THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE CHARGING AND THE ASSUMPTION I'M TAKING
12:30:50 FROM WHAT I HEARD AND YOU BEING A FORMER POLICE OFFICER
12:30:54 CERTAINLY KNOW GET ALL THAT INFORMATION.
12:30:56 I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH IF YOU GET THAT INFORMATION, WAS THE
12:31:00 BUILDING SOLD, TO WHO IT WAS SOLD TO SO WE CAN START DOING
12:31:04 THAT TYPE OF PRESSURE TO FIND OUT WHAT THE FACTS ARE.
12:31:07 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:31:07 I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN, SIR.
12:31:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:31:10 >>LYNN HURTAK: AND THANK YOU.
12:31:12 I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE TIME AND EFFORT IT TOOK TO GET THOSE
12:31:16 MEETINGS JUST EVEN PLANNED.
12:31:18 THANK YOU FOR THAT.
12:31:19 THANK YOU FOR THE WORK, TALKING THROUGH IT, FIGURING IT OUT.
12:31:22 I KNOW WE AREN'T THE ONLY MUNICIPALITY DEALING WITH THIS
12:31:25 VERY SAME ISSUE.
12:31:26 SO WHAT I AM ASKING, AND I THINK THIS WILL HELP THE PUBLIC
12:31:31 CLARIFY AS WELL, CAN YOU JUST SORT OF GO THROUGH A VERY
12:31:35 QUICK STEP-BY-STEP PROCESS OF WHAT CITING MEANS?
12:31:40 SAY I CALL AND MAKE A COMPLAINT ABOUT MY APARTMENT COMPLEX,
12:31:45 WHAT ARE THE STEPS THAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT?
12:31:49 >> OKAY.
12:31:49 THE GOAL OF CODE ENFORCEMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY IS
12:31:54 COMPLIANCE.
12:31:54 THE FIRST STEP IS TO FIRST IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM, VERIFY THAT
12:31:58 THERE IS A PROBLEM, AND ASK THEM TO CORRECT IT.
12:32:01 IF IT'S NOT CORRECTED FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, TYPICALLY
12:32:03 IT'S 21 DAYS, THEY'LL GET A NOTICE OF VIOLATION THAT THIS
12:32:07 NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.
12:32:09 IF IT STILL GOES UNCORRECTED, IT WILL BE SET ON THE DOCKET
12:32:12 FOR THE MAGISTRATE TO HEAR.
12:32:14 THEY'LL COME IN HERE AND HEAR THE COMPLAINT.
12:32:17 BUT THAT IS A PROCESS.
12:32:18 YES, 21 DAYS TO GET IT.
12:32:19 THEN YOU GET ON THE DOCKET.
12:32:21 COULD BE A FEW MONTHS, ALL THE WHILE IT MAY OR MAY NOT GET
12:32:24 CORRECTED.
12:32:25 BEFORE THEY ARE HEARD IN FRONT OF THE MAGISTRATE, THERE ARE
12:32:28 STILL OPPORTUNITIES TO CORRECT.
12:32:29 IF IT'S CORRECTED, IT GETS CLOSED.
12:32:31 IF NOT, THE MAGISTRATE HEARS IT AND UNDER THE MAGISTRATE'S
12:32:35 JURISDICTION WHAT TO DO THEN.
12:32:36 SOMETIMES A DAILY FINE, SOMETIMES AN EXTENSION, AND IT GOES
12:32:39 FROM THERE.
12:32:40 BUT THE IMPORTANT THING IS THEY HAVE TO CALL IN, THEY HAVE
12:32:43 TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, GIVE US A COMPLAINT AND THAT STARTS
12:32:47 THE PROCESS.
12:32:48 >>LYNN HURTAK: AND ONE MORE POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
12:32:52 DOES THIS NOW MEAN THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO GO INTO THESE
12:32:56 APARTMENTS?
12:32:57 >> WE CAN GO IN -- THAT'S WHY I NEED THEM TO CALL IN.
12:33:01 WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE A TIME.
12:33:02 WE CAN GO IN THERE WITH THEM.
12:33:04 WE ARE GOING TO STILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO
12:33:06 GET THE STATE INVOLVED, HUD, EVERYTHING, AND IF THEY DON'T
12:33:11 HAVE THE RESOURCES, FOR SOME REASON THEY CAN'T HANDLE IT,
12:33:14 THEN WE WILL DO THAT.
12:33:15 SO WITH THE FIVE OR MORE UNITS, WE STILL ARE GOING TO GO
12:33:19 THROUGH THE PROCESS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH, TRYING TO GET
12:33:23 COMPLIANCE.
12:33:24 THESE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES DO CHANGE MANAGEMENT A LOT.
12:33:28 THEY HAVE BOTH CHANGED IN THE LAST YEAR.
12:33:30 WE GET IN THERE.
12:33:31 WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP.
12:33:32 I'VE TALKED DIRECTLY ON THE PHONE WITH WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE
12:33:35 OF THE PEOPLE AT THE PROPERTY.
12:33:36 THEY GET MOVING.
12:33:37 THINGS START GOING, AND THEN FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS LATER IT
12:33:41 CHANGES HANDS.
12:33:42 I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A COMPLETE OWNERSHIP CHANGE OR
12:33:45 MANAGEMENT CHANGE, BUT WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT.
12:33:47 SO THE PROCESS, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY ARE
12:33:49 FIVE OR MORE, THE PREEMPTION HAS NOT GONE AWAY, BUT
12:33:54 BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING, THE STATE HAS JURISDICTION,
12:33:57 THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES OR NOT UNDER THE JURISDICTION,
12:34:00 THINGS AREN'T GETTING DONE, THEN WE WILL STEP IN AND TAKE
12:34:03 CARE OF IT.
12:34:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:34:08 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I MAKE A QUICK MOTION IN THIS REGARD, SIR?
12:34:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURELY.
12:34:12 >>LUIS VIERA: IS ANYBODY ELSE?
12:34:14 JUST MAKING SURE.
12:34:16 ONE THING I ALSO WANTED TO SAY REALLY FAST, WITH
12:34:18 TIMBERFALLS, I CAME TO KNOW, IT'S ABOUT THE POWER OF THE
12:34:21 MEDIA AND GREAT JOURNALISM, EMILY MAHONEY WITH THE TAMPA BAY
12:34:28 TIMES, IF IT WASN'T FOR HER, WOULDN'T HAVE COME TO MY VIEW.
12:34:32 THAT'S WHAT WONDERFUL JOURNALISM DOES.
12:34:34 MULTIPRONG MOTION, FIRST, I HAVE A LETTER THAT I WAS GOING
12:34:37 TO SEND TO TIMBERFALLS.
12:34:39 I'VE EXCHANGED E-MAILS WITH THE MANAGER OVER THE LAST THREE
12:34:43 DAYS.
12:34:43 I HAVE A LETTER.
12:34:44 IF I MAY, I WAS GOING TO HAVE A LETTER OF CONCERN, OUTRAGE
12:34:47 WITH A CALL OF ACTION AND MAKE IT FROM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
12:34:50 SO THAT'S THE FIRST PART, IF I MAY.
12:34:52 THE SECOND PART IS, AND IT'S TO HAVE LEGAL -- I'LL GIVE THEM
12:34:57 AS MUCH TIME AS THEY NEED BECAUSE I KNOW LEGAL RESEARCH
12:35:00 TAKES TIME.
12:35:01 TWO THINGS, NUMBER ONE, ANY LAW OR ORDINANCE BEEN VIOLATED
12:35:05 WITH WHAT'S BEEN DONE TO THESE RESIDENTS AND TENANTS?
12:35:07 I KNOW THAT MANAGEMENT IS SAYING THAT THERE'S BACK-DUE RENT,
12:35:11 ET CETERA, ET CETERA, JUST TO HAVE A DIVE INTO THAT.
12:35:14 AND I CAN MEET WITH YOU GUYS WITH MORE SPECIFICITY ON THIS
12:35:16 AND AS MUCH TIME AS YOU ALL NEED.
12:35:18 NUMBER TWO IS, IS THERE ANY KIND OF LAW OR ORDINANCE THAT
12:35:21 THE CITY OF TAMPA CAN PASS TO ADDRESS THIS?
12:35:23 I TELL YOU WHY, IT SURE AS HECK SEEMS BAD TO ME TO TELL
12:35:27 FOLKS EARNING MINIMUM WAGE ON DISABILITY, SENIOR CITIZENS,
12:35:31 YOU OWE US $7,000 FROM THAT BACK DUE RENT AND IF YOU DON'T
12:35:34 PAY IT IN THREE TO FOUR DAYS, YOU ARE POTENTIALLY OUT.
12:35:37 THAT'S WRONG TO ME.
12:35:38 AND THEN FOURTH, I'LL GET WITH YOU GUYS ON THIS, IS TO HAVE
12:35:43 A COMMUNITY MEETING OUT THERE WITH OUR OFFICE OF HUMAN
12:35:46 RIGHTS, WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND WITH DIFFERENT ENTITIES
12:35:49 AND I CAN WORK ON THAT WITH MY OFFICE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF
12:35:53 WEEKS OR SO.
12:35:54 BUT THAT'S MY MOTION, IF I MAY.
12:35:57 FOR THE LEGAL ISSUES, LET'S DO 60 DAYS ON THAT AND THEY MAY
12:36:02 NEED MORE TIME.
12:36:03 THEY MAY NEED LESS TIME, BUT I CAN CALL UP THE LEGAL
12:36:06 DEPARTMENT ON THAT FOR WHATEVER THAT IS.
12:36:09 THE LETTER, I COULD FRANKLY HAVE IT OUT BY TOMORROW.
12:36:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS IT FROM THE CHAIRMAN OR CITY COUNCIL?
12:36:17 ON BEHALF OF CITY COUNCIL.
12:36:18 >>LUIS VIERA: ON BEHALF OF CITY COUNCIL IS FINE.
12:36:20 AND THAT'S IT.
12:36:25 >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
12:36:27 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, AGAIN, IF LEGAL NEEDS MORE TIME ON THAT,
12:36:30 BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY OPEN-ENDED RESEARCH ISSUE THERE, I'M
12:36:34 GLAD TO GIVE MORE TIME ON THAT.
12:36:36 SO WE CAN TENTATIVELY PUT IT ON THAT DATE.
12:36:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:36:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SPEAKING TO THE MOTION AND I'M NOT A
12:36:43 LAWYER, NOT ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IF THEY ARE TAKING HUD MONEY
12:36:46 DIRECT OR ANYTHING TO DO WITH TAMPA HOUSING, BELIEVE ME,
12:36:49 THAT MONEY STOPS IF THERE'S A PROBLEM.
12:36:52 YOU'RE RIGHT.
12:36:53 THAT'S IT.
12:36:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:36:56 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:36:58 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:36:59 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
12:37:00 ALL RIGHT.
12:37:02 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE ARE RECESSED UNTIL 2:00.
12:37:04 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:37:06
02:01:53 >> [OFF MICROPHONE] WITH CLARITY ON WHAT WAS STATED TODAY
02:02:06 ABOUT JUNETEENTH AND THE CITY.
02:02:09 SO I HAVE ASKED OUR CHIEF OF STAFF TO COME BACK AND JUST ADD
02:02:14 SOME CLARITY TO IT.
02:02:16 CHIEF?
02:02:18 EXCUSE ME, ROLL CALL.
02:02:19 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
02:02:24 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
02:02:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
02:02:27 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:02:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
02:02:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
02:02:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM HERE.
02:02:32 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
02:02:35 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU.
02:02:37 I APPRECIATE MY CHANCE BEFORE MY AFTERNOON TAKES OFF ANOTHER
02:02:41 MEETING TO COME BACK IN AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL
02:02:43 TO GET CLARITY BETWEEN BOTH OF OUR WORK EFFORTS.
02:02:47 SO AS THE BUDGET WAS APPROVED FOR FY 22, THERE WAS A REQUEST
02:02:54 TO COME BACK AND REPORT, NOT ACTUALLY REPORT BUT COME BACK
02:02:58 AND DISCUSS EXPLORATION OF JUNETEENTH AS A HOLIDAY.
02:03:01 THAT WAS FOLLOWED UP BY A MEMO IN MARCH OF ASKING FOR A
02:03:05 FOLLOW-UP WHICH AT THE TIME WE SAID THAT WE ARE MOVING INTO
02:03:08 NEGOTIATION.
02:03:09 IT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, AND COUNCIL IS CORRECT, THAT THERE
02:03:13 IS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT CAME AS A HOLIDAY THROUGH THAT
02:03:18 EXECUTIVE ORDER PROCESS WHICH AGAIN NO AMBIGUITY THERE.
02:03:22 WE LISTENED TO THE WORKFORCE, WHICH AGAIN OVER 16 MEETINGS,
02:03:26 ALL THREE UNIONS, FOUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS,
02:03:30 STARTING AROUND APRIL AND ENDING ON JUNE 30th.
02:03:32 THE OVERALL REQUEST FOR THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THAT
02:03:36 ADDITIONAL DAY, ELEVEN-DAY HOLIDAY, 12th DAY FLOATING,
02:03:40 13th NOW HOLIDAY, WOULD BE THE DEI DAY, DIVERSITY AND
02:03:47 INCLUSION SO EVERYBODY CAN CELEBRATE.
02:03:50 EVERYTHING GETS COSTED WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE NEGOTIATION
02:03:53 PROCESS.
02:03:54 FROM THE GENERAL FUND WAS TOLD TO ME IT WAS ABOUT $1.2
02:03:57 MILLION JUST IN THE GENERAL FUND TO CLOSE DOWN THE CITY FOR
02:04:01 A DAY, NOT COUNTING MANAGEMENT AND ABOVE WHICH WOULD BE
02:04:06 OBVIOUSLY AN ADDITIONAL COST, OR BRINGING PEOPLE BACK TO
02:04:09 WORK TO WORK AN EVENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
02:04:13 SO FINISHING THE NEGOTIATIONS, AND AS COUNCILMAN GUDES
02:04:17 MENTIONED RATIFYING AT LEAST TWO OF THE THREE, THAT'S THE
02:04:21 PHASE THAT HAS NOW BEEN COMPLETED.
02:04:23 WE ARE STILL GOING INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS.
02:04:25 CLEARLY THE MAYOR HEARD THE REQUEST FOR JUNETEENTH THROUGH
02:04:28 THE TWO ITERATIONS BACK IN SEPTEMBER AND MARCH, SO MY
02:04:32 QUESTION FOR COUNCIL IS, GOING INTO THE BUDGET,
02:04:36 FINALIZATION, FINAL PREP MODE, IS IT A REQUEST FROM COUNCIL,
02:04:40 AND WHETHER YOU MOTION NOW OR IN NEW BUSINESS IS UP TO YOU,
02:04:44 BUT IS IT A REQUEST FROM COUNCIL TO INCLUDE JUNETEENTH IN
02:04:47 THE FY 23 BUDGET PROCESS AS AN OFFICIAL HOLIDAY TO CLOSE THE
02:04:52 CITY?
02:04:53 AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I AM HERE.
02:04:54 LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE ALWAYS RESPOND TO THE COUNCIL.
02:04:58 WE LISTEN.
02:05:00 BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER ITERATION TO GO THROUGH AFTER THE
02:05:03 NEGOTIATION WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE NOW.
02:05:05 SO HOW CAN WE SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD?
02:05:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:05:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MEAN, WHAT'S DISAPPOINTING, CHIEF, IS
02:05:16 THIS WAS ASKED WAY BEFORE WE START WORK ON THE BUDGET.
02:05:21 I ASKED THAT A LONG TIME AGO.
02:05:23 I ASKED FOR A FOLLOW-UP.
02:05:25 WE WERE STILL WORKING.
02:05:27 YOU HEARD HOW THE COMMUNITY HAS COME TO US SEVERAL TIMES.
02:05:30 SO TO NOW SAY WE CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA.
02:05:33 WELL, THE IDEA FOR JUNETEENTH, I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE'S
02:05:42 CULTURE AND I RESPECT EVERYONE'S CULTURE.
02:05:44 IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A FLOATING HOLIDAY, BUT JUNETEENTH IS
02:05:48 SPECIAL.
02:05:50 AND I STAND FIRM ON THAT.
02:05:53 I BELIEVE THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN -- THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN
02:05:59 AUTOMATIC HOLIDAY AND BUDGET IT INTO THE SYSTEM.
02:06:02 SO I STILL HAVE MY REQUEST THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE
02:06:05 JUNETEENTH AS A HOLIDAY, AND SOMEHOW WE CAN REPORT TO HAVE A
02:06:10 CULTURE DAY, BUT I STAND FIRM ON JUNETEENTH BEING A CITY
02:06:14 HOLIDAY.
02:06:15 >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT'S WHY I AM HERE.
02:06:16 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHIEF.
02:06:20 I APPRECIATE THAT.
02:06:21 YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT CULTURAL
02:06:26 HOLIDAY, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF FOLKS WOULD HAVE
02:06:28 PROBABLY PICKED JUNETEENTH, SO I THINK THE REVENUE OFFSET, I
02:06:32 THINK, MAY BE LESS THAN MAYBE WHAT WE ANTICIPATE.
02:06:36 BUT I GUESS THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES, I WOULD
02:06:40 CERTAINLY BE A YES VOTE FOR THAT.
02:06:42 BUT I THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR
02:06:45 WORK.
02:06:45 >>JOHN BENNETT: AND THE BUDGET ISN'T SETTLED.
02:06:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAVE TO COME TO CONCLUSION BEFORE HE
02:06:53 LEAVES.
02:06:54 THE FACT IT IS BEING WORKED ON.
02:06:56 I THINK SOMETIME, THE HEARINGS, AND IN SEPTEMBER YOU HAVE
02:07:01 THE TWO FINAL HEARINGS ON IT.
02:07:03 I THINK THE CITY AND THE EMPLOYEES AND THE TAXPAYERS HAVE TO
02:07:06 KNOW TODAY OR VERY CLOSE TO TODAY IF WE WANT JUNETEENTH, AND
02:07:12 YOU HAVE TO PUT ANOTHER MILLION WHATEVER IT IS, 2, 3, 4,
02:07:17 WHATEVER, AND THEN THAT HOLIDAY,.
02:07:22 >>JOHN BENNETT: I APPRECIATE THAT H.AND COUNCILMAN VIERA, I
02:07:27 APPRECIATE THE POINT BUT EVERYTHING IN THE NEGOTIATION GETS
02:07:29 MODIFIED AHEAD OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.
02:07:31 SO IF THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL ADD, WE ARE JUST JUXTAPOSING
02:07:36 THOSE TWO REQUESTS AND THAT WAS THE APPRAISE DOMINANT ASK OF
02:07:39 THE UNIONS WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE DAY FOR THEIR OWN,
02:07:42 INCLUDING JUNETEENTH, BUT IF WE WANT TO CLOSE CITY HALL FOR
02:07:45 THE 12th DAY, THAT'S WHAT I AM HERE FOR IS TO GET
02:07:49 COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK ON THAT.
02:07:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:07:53 >>LYNN HURTAK: I SUPPORT CLOSING THE CITY FOR ANOTHER DAY,
02:07:56 JUST BECAUSE EVERY CULTURE DOES DEFINITELY HAVE A
02:08:01 SIGNIFICANT HOLIDAY, SOMETHING THAT MEANS SOMETHING TO THEM.
02:08:05 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A DAY WHEN PEOPLE NO LONGER BELONG TO
02:08:09 OTHER PEOPLE, AND -- WELL, YES, YES, I WILL TAKE THE --
02:08:19 WELL, WE CALL IT COLUMBUS DAY.
02:08:21 >> ROCCO.
02:08:28 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:08:30 THIS DAY IS SO IMPORTANT FOR AMERICANS.
02:08:33 WE DIDN'T CELEBRATE THIS WHEN WE WERE CHILDREN.
02:08:36 WE DIDN'T LEARN ABOUT IT.
02:08:37 I DON'T REMEMBER LEARNING ABOUT THIS.
02:08:39 AND SO I THINK WE OWE IT TO EVERYONE, EVERY CITIZEN TO
02:08:43 REMEMBER, ESPECIALLY WHERE WE ARE POLITICALLY TODAY, THAT IT
02:08:48 WASN'T THAT LONG AGO.
02:08:49 AND I SUPPORT ANOTHER DAY -- AND A DAY, IF SOMEONE WANTS A
02:08:56 PERSONAL EQUITY INCLUSION DAY.
02:09:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:09:03 >>BILL CARLSON: U.S. AND TAMPA ARE SO MULTICULTURAL,
02:09:08 DIVERSITY INCLUSION DAY, BECAUSE THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF
02:09:12 RELIGIOUS, WE NEED A CHANCE FOR PEOPLE TO CELEBRATE, TAKE
02:09:17 OFF THE DAY THEY NEED.
02:09:21 THIS DAY SYMBOLIZES FREEDOM, AND THE PARTICULAR DELAY, NOT
02:09:31 TO GET INTO ALL OF THAT, BUT IT HAS BECOME A NATIONAL
02:09:34 HOLIDAY.
02:09:34 IF WE WERE THE FIRST PLACE TO ADOPT THIS, THEN THAT WOULD BE
02:09:37 DIFFERENT.
02:09:38 BUT SINCE IT'S A NATIONAL HOLIDAY, IF WE DON'T DO IT, IT IN
02:09:42 PARTICULAR MAKES US STAND OUT.
02:09:44 I THINK IT'S REALLY A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE OR EQUITY ISSUE,
02:09:48 NOT A BUDGET ISSUE AND THE PRACTICAL EFFECT MAY BE THAT IT'S
02:09:51 A BUDGET ISSUE, BUT I HOPE WE LOOK AT IT AT THE HIGHER
02:09:54 PURPOSE OF IT.
02:09:55 IF WE DON'T DO A SPECIAL HOLIDAY FOR EVERY RELIGION AND
02:09:58 EVERY RACE, I APOLOGIZE, BUT THIS ONE IS NOT ABOUT RELIGION
02:10:04 AND NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT RACE, IT'S ABOUT ENDING THE
02:10:09 OWNERSHIP OF PEOPLE.
02:10:11 SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IT.
02:10:13 TO THE BUDGET, IF IT -- IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT WILL
02:10:17 ACTUALLY COST A MILLION TWO, ONLY LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS.
02:10:19 BUT EVEN IF IT DOES, IT WOULD BE WORTH THAT EXPENDITURE.
02:10:22 AND I THINK VERY FEW PEOPLE IN THE CITY WOULD BE OPPOSED TO
02:10:25 IT.
02:10:26 BUT AS WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET, JUST TO THROW THIS OUT THERE,
02:10:30 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SUCH A WINDFALL, I THINK WE NEED TO
02:10:34 LOOK AT EVERY ITEM IN THE BUDGET AS IF WE ARE IN A RECESSION
02:10:38 BECAUSE WE ARE PROBABLY GOING INTO ONE THE SAME AS WE DID
02:10:40 THREE YEARS AGO, IF WE NEED TO PUT MONEY INTO ANY ADDITIONAL
02:10:44 MONEY WE NEED TO PUT INTO RESERVES, OR WE NEED TO LOOK AT
02:10:48 SOME KIND OF ROLLBACK.
02:10:50 THE BEST WAY THAT WE CAN HELP WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING RIGHT
02:10:52 NOW, IT'S PRIVATE OWNERSHIP OF THE HOUSES THAT ARE BEING
02:10:55 RENTED.
02:10:55 ONE OF THE BEST WAYS WE COULD EFFECT THOSE RENTAL RATES IS
02:10:59 TO REDUCE TAXES.
02:11:01 AND I KNOW THE COUNTY IS NOT LOOK AT DOING THAT, BUT WE HAVE
02:11:04 A LONG WISH LIST OF THINGS WE NEED TO DO BUT RIGHT NOW
02:11:07 PEOPLE ARE HURTING, AND IF THERE'S ANY EXTRA MONEY, WE NEED
02:11:12 TO NOT SPEND IT ON PET PROJECTS LIKE $12 MILLION BOAT HOUSE,
02:11:16 BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT'S ESSENTIAL, WHAT'S THE
02:11:19 ESSENTIALS ARE DONE, LET'S LOOK AT GIVING SOME KIND OF
02:11:22 RELIEF TO TAXPAYERS.
02:11:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:11:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
02:11:27 I WOULD TOTALLY SUPPORT THAT WE DO CLOSE DOWN FOR
02:11:34 JUNETEENTH, AND THE REASON IS, I WANT TO CELEBRATE, I WANT
02:11:39 TO HONOR THE FACT THAT DUE TO THE GROWTH OR DISCUSSING RACE,
02:11:47 AS HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY, SLAVERY UNTIL THE TIME OF
02:11:51 ABRAHAM LINCOLN, WHICH I KNOW IS BEFORE WE WERE ALL BORN,
02:11:55 MULTI-GENERATIONS BEHIND, BUT IT'S SO SIGNIFICANT, PEOPLE
02:11:58 THAT WERE ENSLAVED WERE ESSENTIALLY FREED, NOT GOING INTO
02:12:03 JIM CROW AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
02:12:05 SO MUCH HAD TO TAKE PLACE.
02:12:06 BUT IT'S WORTHY OF HAVING THE HOLIDAY TO HONOR THESE
02:12:11 INDIVIDUALS, AND ALSO TO TEACH NEW GENERATIONS BECAUSE AS
02:12:18 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID, WE DIDN'T LEARN ABOUT THIS.
02:12:22 WE LEARNED ABOUT THE PROCLAMATION, PRESIDENT LINCOLN AND
02:12:26 EVERYTHING, BUT TO HAVE AN ACTUAL DAY WHERE PEOPLE -- THINK
02:12:29 ABOUT IT.
02:12:30 TO BE ENSLAVED, TO BE SHACKLED, TO BE FORCED TO WORK, TO BE
02:12:34 TREATED AS THEY WERE, I MEAN, IT'S AN EMBARRASSMENT TO THE
02:12:38 HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY.
02:12:40 AND IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO.
02:12:41 BUT I THINK IT IS DESERVING OF THE CITY CLOSING, BECAUSE IT
02:12:48 ALLOWS US TO TEACH CURRENT AND NEW GENERATIONS OF
02:12:53 SIGNIFICANCE OF JUNETEENTH, THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE
02:12:56 EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION, THE SIGNIFICANCE AND IMPORTANCE
02:13:00 OF KNOWING AND NOT FORGETTING OUR HISTORY OF WHAT PEOPLE HAD
02:13:03 TO SUFFER THROUGH, AND THOSE REPERCUSSIONS SINCE, YOU KNOW.
02:13:07 WE ARE STILL FEELING THE EFFECTS NOW JUST HOW CERTAIN GROUPS
02:13:10 OF PEOPLE ARE TREATED.
02:13:11 AND I THINK IT'S VERY WORTHY AND I WOULD DEFINITELY BE
02:13:15 SUPPORTING IT.
02:13:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
02:13:21 AND IT'S FUNNY, AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, GETTING INTO THE
02:13:26 WEEDS HEAR BUT I WOULD ACTUALLY SAY MANY FORMS OF SLAVERY
02:13:29 DIDN'T END PER THE 13th AMENDMENT AND THE EMANCIPATION
02:13:33 PROCLAMATION BECAUSE OF CONVICT LABOR LEASING IN THE DEEP
02:13:36 SOUTH, GO DOWN THE MISSISSIPPI DELTA, AND NOW THE
02:13:39 MISSISSIPPI STATE PENT, THAT WAS STATE SANCTIONED SLAVERY,
02:13:45 BUT I DO AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT.
02:13:47 ONE THING I WOULD SAY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT UP THE
02:13:49 ISSUE OF THE WINDFALL, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THAT WE
02:13:53 SHOULD HAVE I THINK A GOOD ROBUST DISCUSSION ON THAT,
02:13:56 OBVIOUSLY, SOME SORT OF A WORKSHOP, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT
02:13:59 I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE ABOUT A FEW DAYS AGO, I WOULD LOVE
02:14:02 TO SEE ONE THIRD OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY, ONE THIRD FOR
02:14:04 AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEN ONE THIRD FOR THE PRESERVES TO
02:14:08 SEE THAT.
02:14:09 BUT AGAIN THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT IDEAS OUT THERE ON IT,
02:14:14 THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT, BUT WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE A GOOD
02:14:17 DISCUSSION ON IT.
02:14:18 THANK YOU.
02:14:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SOMETHING
02:14:21 NEEDS TO BE DONE TODAY AT THIS HEARING, WHETHER IT BE A
02:14:23 MOTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS PUT INTO THE BUDGET.
02:14:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT WE NEED SO THE CHIEF OF
02:14:33 STAFF UNDERSTANDS.
02:14:35 HE WANTS TO KNOW WHAT TO DO.
02:14:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:14:39 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:14:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THE QUESTION IS, I WANT TO
02:14:46 BE CLEAR, THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO PLACE IT BECAUSE
02:14:50 IT'S NOT ONLY DONE BY EXECUTIVE ORDER, AND I WANT TO BE
02:14:54 CLEAR.
02:14:55 >>JOHN BENNETT: THE REASON I AM IN HERE IS BECAUSE THE
02:14:57 MAYOR DID SUPPORT THE JOURNEY.
02:14:59 I HAVE COME INTO COUNCIL AND TALKED ABOUT THE FOUR PS,
02:15:04 PUBLIC FIRST, THEN PERSONNEL, THEN PARTNERS AND OUR
02:15:06 POLICYMAKERS.
02:15:07 AND WE FOLLOWED THAT PRESCRIPTIVELY FOR THE PAST 12 MONTHS.
02:15:12 AND WE HAVE HEARD FROM ALL THREE EXCEPT FROM THE PERSONNEL
02:15:15 WHICH IS WHY WE ALLOWED THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS TO BE
02:15:17 DISCUSSED FROM 3800 UNION EMPLOYEES TO STAFF.
02:15:21 AND THIS WAS THEIR REQUEST.
02:15:23 THIS WAS THEIR REQUEST.
02:15:24 IT DIDN'T STOP THE OTHER PROCESS FROM GOING, WHICH IS WHY I
02:15:27 WANT TO COME BACK AND CLARIFY THAT.
02:15:28 THE SECOND PHASE OF THIS IS NOW THE BUDGET PROCESS.
02:15:33 AND I AGREE, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AN EXECUTIVE ORDER,
02:15:36 BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF YOU SEE IT IN THE BUDGET
02:15:38 THAT THERE IS NOW 12, THOSE HOLIDAY AND TWO ADDITIONAL PAID
02:15:43 HOLIDAYS, ONE IS A FLEX DAY FOR THE EMPLOYEES OWN PERSONAL
02:15:47 USE AND THE OTHER ONE IS A DIVERSITY EQUITY INCLUSION DATE
02:15:51 TO CELEBRATE THE VAST DIVERSITY BOTH INSIDE THE ORGANIZATION
02:15:54 AND IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT YOU UNDERSTAND IN THE BUDGET THAT
02:15:57 THAT NUMBER WILL BE -- IT IS VERIFIED THAT BETWEEN THE
02:16:03 BARGAINING UNITS AND THEIR BENEFITS, IT'S ABOUT $1.3
02:16:08 MILLION, WHICH AGAIN I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THIS
02:16:10 IS NOT ABOUT MONEY, BUT IT WILL COME THROUGH ON THE BUDGET
02:16:13 PROCESS FOR THE DAY OFF.
02:16:15 SO IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE FOR ME NOT TO PRESCRIPTIVELY
02:16:19 CONNECT THOSE TWO.
02:16:20 BUT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE MANAGEMENT COSTS OR COMING BACK
02:16:22 AND DOING ANY SPECIAL EVENTS ON THAT DAY.
02:16:24 SO I DON'T NEED A MOTION TO BRING IT INTO THE BUDGET.
02:16:28 I TOLD YOU BEFORE WHAT I WILL DO AND I WILL BE DEALING WITH
02:16:31 CHIEF ROGERO OR YOU CAN REQUEST WE DO IT THROUGH THE BUDGET
02:16:39 AND EXECUTIVE ORDER.
02:16:40 >>BILL CARLSON: WE DIDN'T REALLY STATE THE MOTION AND I
02:16:43 DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH BUT I WILL MAKE A
02:16:45 SUGGESTION.
02:16:46 I THINK WE SHOULD FIRST OF ALL KNOWLEDGE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF
02:16:48 THIS AND WHY, AND SAY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHATEVER WORDS YOU
02:16:53 WANT TO SAY, BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS THE ENDING OF
02:16:56 ENSLAVEMENT, AND THEN WE SAY THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WOULD
02:17:01 REQUEST THAT THE MAYOR ADD THIS TO HER EXECUTIVE ORDER FOR
02:17:08 HOLIDAYS, AND THEN ADDRESS -- AND THAT WE WOULD BE
02:17:11 SUPPORTIVE OF ADDRESSING THE BUDGET, HR AND OTHER ISSUES
02:17:14 RELATED TO THIS.
02:17:16 THAT WAY, THE MOTION IS NOT ALL ABOUT THE BUDGET, IT'S ABOUT
02:17:19 THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT, AND ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING THE
02:17:23 SEPARATION OF POWERS AND WHERE IT CURRENTLY RESIDES SO WE
02:17:26 DON'T HAVE ORDINANCES FIGHTING WITH THE EXECUTIVE ORDER.
02:17:30 >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT, COUNCILMAN
02:17:35 CARLSON.
02:17:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MAKE A MOTION BY EXECUTIVE ORDER OF THE
02:17:39 MAYOR'S OFFICE THAT JUNETEENTH BE RECOGNIZED --
02:17:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
02:17:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL GET TO THAT.
02:17:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT AT THE REQUEST OF THE MAYOR.
02:17:49 FRANKLY IT WOULD BE A REQUEST TO THE MAYOR VIA EXECUTIVE
02:17:52 ORDER.
02:17:53 BUT WITH REGARD TO RETURNING THE BUDGET TO CITY COUNCIL, TO
02:17:59 PLACE THAT ADDITIONAL HOLIDAY INTO THE BUDGET.
02:18:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK HE KNOWS IT'S A REQUEST FOR THE
02:18:04 ADMINISTRATION TO DO THAT.
02:18:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:18:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE --
02:18:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK SHE SAID MOST OF IT.
02:18:15 BUT A REQUEST THAT THE ADMINISTRATION LOOK AT ADDING
02:18:20 JUNETEENTH INTO THE BUDGETARY PROCESS FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR,
02:18:25 AND JUNETEENTH, ENSLAVEMENT OF AFRICAN AMERICANS.
02:18:31 >> SECOND.
02:18:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT BECAUSE
02:18:35 YOU SAID REQUEST, OR CITY COUNCIL SENTIMENT?
02:18:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU WANT ME TO WRITE THE MOTION?
02:18:42 YOU WRITE IT AND I WILL MAKE THE MOTION.
02:18:46 WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING.
02:18:52 MR. CITRO, PLEASE.
02:18:55 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
02:18:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.
02:19:00 MADAM CLERK, DID YOU GET THE MOTION?
02:19:02 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:19:03 WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:19:05 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:19:07 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:19:10 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
02:19:12 THANK YOU ALL, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
02:19:15 THANK YOU, CHIEF BENNETT.
02:19:16 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARITY.
02:19:20 HAVE A GOOD AFTERNOON.
02:19:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
02:19:22 ALL RIGHT.
02:19:23 AGENDA ITEM 19.
02:19:30 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:19:31 >>BILL CARLSON: AGENDA ITEM 19 IS ONE I PUT ON.
02:19:36 MS. ZELMAN SENT A MEMO.
02:19:39 HOWEVER BECAUSE OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOLIDAY MS. ZELMAN AND I
02:19:42 HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO DISCUSS THIS.
02:19:43 WE TALKED AT THE BREAK AND WE THINK IT BETTER TO MAKE A
02:19:46 MOTION TO DEFER THIS TO SEPTEMBER 2nd SO THAT SHE AND I
02:19:51 CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION OFFLINE.
02:19:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU PLEASE READ OFF THE FILE NAME,
02:19:56 NUMBER, AND YOUR MOTION?
02:19:58 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO REGARDING FILE CM 22-74623,
02:20:05 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL
02:20:09 SEPTEMBER 2nd.
02:20:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
02:20:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND
02:20:14 BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:20:16 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:20:17 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
02:20:19 THANK YOU.
02:20:20 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20, CM 22-75288.
02:20:25 >>BILL CARLSON: SEPTEMBER 1st.
02:20:47 I'M SORRY.
02:20:48 DO WE NEED TO VOTE AGAIN?
02:20:51 >> NO.
02:20:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHO IS TAKING CARE OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
02:20:56 20?
02:20:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S COUNCIL DISCUSSION MADE BY
02:21:00 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:21:01 I'M PREPARED JUST TO SAY THAT -- MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
02:21:07 ATTORNEY.
02:21:08 I HAVE BEEN CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY FOR 18 YEARS OR SO BY NOW,
02:21:12 AND WHAT HAPPENED AT THE END OF MAY, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME
02:21:20 SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED.
02:21:22 NORMALLY, I DON'T GET VACATION DAYS, COUNCIL.
02:21:26 WHEN I TOOK THE LEAVE, THAT WAS AN UNPAID VACATION -- EXCUSE
02:21:30 ME, NOT UNPAID VACATION, UNPAID LEAVE.
02:21:33 IT WAS NOT A VACATION.
02:21:35 AND I APOLOGIZE TO COUNCIL.
02:21:37 BUT I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK ON SUCH SHORT
02:21:41 NOTICE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, IN PARTICULAR MR. MASSEY,
02:21:44 FOR BEING ABLE TO STEP UP AND STEP IN.
02:21:48 I DON'T FORESEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING AGAIN, BUT I
02:21:52 UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION WAS RAISED AND PUT IN THE FORM OF A
02:21:55 MOTION DURING MY ABSENCE, AND I ASSURE YOU THAT IF IT'S
02:22:05 SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTS, TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT
02:22:10 COUNSEL, AND I AM LISTENING TO CITY COUNCIL'S PERSPECTIVE.
02:22:15 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:22:16 ALTHOUGH IT'S AN UNUSUAL THING IT'S ALWAYS POSSIBLE THAT
02:22:19 SOMEBODY WILL BE OUT FOR A COUPLE MEETINGS, AND I HAVE THE
02:22:22 HIGHEST RECORD FOR MORRIS MASSEY.
02:22:25 I THINK HE'S GREAT AND HE DID A GREAT JOB WHILE YOU WERE
02:22:29 OUT.
02:22:29 BUT BECAUSE OF THE CONFLICTS AND UNLESS WE FIX THE CHARTER
02:22:32 AND FOLLOWING WITH THE CHARTER WAY IT DESCRIBES YOUR
02:22:34 POSITION, WE NEED COUNSEL THAT'S INDEPENDENT OF ANY OTHER
02:22:38 CLIENT, AND THE CONFLICT OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS THAT
02:22:41 THEY HAVE THREE CLIENTS, AND WHEN THOSE THREE CONFLICT, THEN
02:22:44 IT COULD CAUSE A PROBLEM.
02:22:45 AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT ANY INDIVIDUAL WOULD NOT MAKE THEIR
02:22:49 BEST EFFORT TO DO A GOOD JOB, BUT THERE'S JUST AN INHERENT
02:22:53 CONFLICT OF HAVING THREE CLIENTS IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:22:57 SO I THINK, IT'S NOT IN FRONT OF US BUT I THINK WHAT THE
02:23:00 CITY ATTORNEY SAID WAS WE COULD PICK ANY ONE OF THE MANY
02:23:03 FIRMS THAT WERE JUST APPROVED ON THAT AD HOC LIST, AND I
02:23:08 GUESS WE COULD APPROVE IT IF YOU ACTUALLY GO OUT OR WE COULD
02:23:11 PREAPPROVE IT AND ASK THEM TO PRESENT SOMEBODY TO US SO WE
02:23:15 COULD HAVE THEM ON STANDBY.
02:23:16 BUT IT SOUND LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY IS OKAY WITH US BRINGING
02:23:19 AN OUTSIDE PERSON WHO WOULD BE OBJECTIVE.
02:23:22 ULTIMATELY THEY ARE GETTING PAID BY THE CITY ATTORNEY BUT
02:23:24 THEY WOULD BE PAID TO REPRESENT US STANDING IN YOUR POSITION
02:23:27 WHICH IS DEFINED BY THE CHARTER, AS I UNDERSTAND.
02:23:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:23:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN
02:23:34 CARLSON SAID.
02:23:35 YOU KNOW, WE BUDGETED X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FOR OUTSIDE
02:23:39 COUNSEL OF OUR CHOICE.
02:23:41 IT DOES MAKE SENSE.
02:23:42 SO WE HAVE THAT OPTION.
02:23:44 ALSO, I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK MORRIS MASSEY FOR STEPPING
02:23:48 IN, THE CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL.
02:23:52 I THINK HE WAS FAIR AND HONEST AS HE ALWAYS IS, AND HANDLED
02:23:57 THE JOB TEMPORARILY VERY WELL.
02:24:00 SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO HIM.
02:24:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:24:05 I BELIEVE, I SAID PICK ONE OF THOSE FROM THE LIST, PUT IT
02:24:10 OUT THERE FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED ON THAT LIST TO
02:24:13 APPLY RFQ, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, FOR A TEMPORARY
02:24:17 POSITION, NOT PAID UNTIL SOMEBODY -- I AM NOT SAYING YOU GET
02:24:22 SICK, NOT AT ALL, BUT IN YOUR ABSENCE, WHOEVER THE CITY
02:24:26 COUNCIL ATTORNEY IS, IF THAT PERSON WOULD COME IN UNDER
02:24:29 THOSE CONDITIONS, AND WHO THE INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE.
02:24:33 >>LYNN HURTAK: I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT.
02:24:38 I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL PLAN AND IDEA.
02:24:40 AND THOSE WHO TOOK OVER FOR MR. SHELBY WHILE HE WAS OUT WERE
02:24:47 WONDERFUL, AND EVERYONE WAS VERY HELPFUL LIKE YOU WOULD
02:24:51 EXPECT THEM TO BE, BUT THEY HAVE WORKLOADS, TOO, THAT ARE
02:24:54 NOT OUR WORKLOADS THAT AREN'T COUNCIL SPECIFIC, SO TAKING
02:24:59 MORE TIME FOR THEM TO GET UP TO SPEED AND THINGS LIKE THAT
02:25:02 IS REALLY WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN MAKING THIS MOTION,
02:25:05 TO HAVE THAT BACKGROUND, AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA,
02:25:09 MAYBE WE MAKE IT AN ANNUAL THING TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT
02:25:15 PARTICULAR LEGAL PERSON IS STILL INTERESTED, SO IT COMES IN
02:25:22 FRONT OF US ONCE A YEAR, SAY HEY, ARE YOU STILL INTERESTED
02:25:25 IN BEING OUR BACKGROUND -- OR OUR BACKUP?
02:25:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS IT SOMETHING THAT COUNSEL WOULD
02:25:32 CONSIDER TO HAVE -- BECAUSE THOSE FIRMS DO WORK -- THOSE
02:25:37 FIRMS -- I WASN'T HERE FOR THE PASSAGE OF THAT, MS. ZELMAN,
02:25:42 THAT RESOLUTION THAT -- WAS IT 14 FIRMS OR SO ON THAT LIST?
02:25:48 BUT THOSE FIRMS DO HAVE A CONTRACT -- OR A CONTRACT FORM
02:25:54 WITH THE CITY, SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER COUNCIL WANTS TO
02:25:59 HAVE A FIRM THAT DOES BUSINESS, ADDITIONAL BUSINESS FOR THE
02:26:02 CITY, YOU WANT IT TO BE AN INDIVIDUAL OR DO YOU WANT IT TO
02:26:05 BE A FIRM?
02:26:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:26:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
02:26:16 BEING HERE, GOING ON THREE AND A HALF YEARS, MR. SHELBY, YOU
02:26:22 ARE OVERWORKED, MY FRIEND.
02:26:25 YOU HAVE SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ALL THINK DIFFERENTLY, OR
02:26:28 HAVE DIFFERENT ASKS AND NEEDS AND WANTS.
02:26:30 YOU ARE ONE PERSON.
02:26:34 I BELIEVE THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE AN ASSISTANT, OR THERE SHOULD
02:26:36 BE SOMEBODY IF YOU DO GO OUT, SOMEBODY THAT CAN TAKE OVER.
02:26:39 BUT TO SAY LOOK AT THE LIST, TO ME, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
02:26:43 LIST, THE LIST IS CONTRACTED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
02:26:49 WE NEED SOMEBODY INDEPENDENT.
02:26:51 THAT'S MY OWN PERSONAL FEELINGS.
02:26:53 BUT AGAIN, THE MULTITUDE OF THINGS TO GO ON NOW, COUNCIL, TO
02:27:01 HAVE SOMEBODY HELP WITH RESEARCH AND OTHER THINGS.
02:27:05 IT'S MY OWN BELIEF WHAT I HAVE SEEN BEING HERE, I JUST
02:27:10 BELIEVE THAT ANOTHER PERSON IS WARRANTED TO HELP US, ASSIST
02:27:16 AND DO OTHER THINGS.
02:27:17 THAT'S JUST ME, BUT THAT'S JUST MY BELIEF.
02:27:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
02:27:26 THIS IS MULTI-FACETED AND I AM IN NO WAY DIRECTING ANYTHING
02:27:30 TO OUR PRESENT CITY ATTORNEY.
02:27:34 EXCUSE ME, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
02:27:37 AT WHAT POINT DO WE DECIDE FOR ANOTHER ATTORNEY TAKETAKE
02:27:42 TAKE OVER THAT POSITION?
02:27:44 IF OUR CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY HAS A STUFFY NOSE AND DOESN'T
02:27:48 COME IN ON THAT THURSDAY, DO WE IMMEDIATELY GO OVER OR DO WE
02:27:52 ALLOW CITY ATTORNEY TO SIT IN FOR ONE DAY?
02:27:55 IF THERE IS ANY TYPE OF EXTENDED LEAVE OF ABSENCE, FOR HOW
02:27:58 LONG?
02:28:01 THIS IS MULTI-FACETED HERE.
02:28:03 AND I DO AGREE ON SOME POINTS WITH ALL THE CITY COUNCIL
02:28:07 MEMBERS, BUT THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE DISCUSSION
02:28:10 THAT WE SHOULD REALLY TAKE SERIOUSLY.
02:28:14 AND POSSIBLY HAVE A WORKSHOP ON.
02:28:17 IN THE NOT-TOO-DISTANT FUTURE TO KIND OF PUT SOME
02:28:20 DEFINITIONS DOWN ON THAT.
02:28:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT COUNCIL TO
02:28:25 KNOW THAT WHAT HAPPENED WAS ON SHORT NOTICE, AND UNUSUAL,
02:28:31 NORMALLY WHEN I DO TAKE LEAVES -- EXCUSE ME, AN ABSENCE,
02:28:37 IT'S USUALLY WELL IN ADVANCE AND IT'S PLANNED WITH THE CITY
02:28:41 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND AT LEAST THEY HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF IT
02:28:45 AND THEY KNOW ABOUT IT. IN THIS CASE, THIS WAS SOMETHING
02:28:48 DIFFERENT AND UNUSUAL, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE BURDEN IT
02:28:54 PLACED UPON THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, CERTAINLY UPON CITY
02:28:59 COUNCIL, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO RAISE GOOD ISSUES,
02:29:07 MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY, SINCE THIS
02:29:09 IS MY FIRST WEEK BACK, AND I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
02:29:13 DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND WITH THE CITY
02:29:16 ATTORNEY, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU.
02:29:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:29:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE] YOU DON'T HAVE TO
02:29:27 APOLOGIZE TO THIS COUNCIL FOR NOT BEING HERE.
02:29:30 YOU WERE NOT HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE GOOD REASON TO NOT BE
02:29:33 HERE, SIR.
02:29:34 THERE'S NO REASON FOR YOU TO APOLOGIZE, SO PLEASE DON'T DO
02:29:36 THAT HERE.
02:29:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND.
02:29:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE A SITUATION THAT AROSE.
02:29:41 NOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW TO, IF I IT IN THE FUTURE.
02:29:44 I STILL STAND BY WHAT I SAY.
02:29:48 WE NEED SOMEBODY WHEN YOU ARE NOT HERE, THAT PERSON CAN KNOW
02:29:51 HOW THE OPERATION RUNS.
02:29:52 THE CITIZENS -- THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT,
02:29:57 NEEDS MORE STAFF.
02:30:01 THEY ARE THE ONES WHO PUT US HERE.
02:30:03 WE HAVE TO SOMETIMES LISTEN TO WHAT THEY WANT.
02:30:06 I'M JUST SAYING, PLEASE, SIR, DON'T APOLOGIZE, BECAUSE YOU
02:30:10 HAD GOOD REASON, SO DON'T APOLOGIZE.
02:30:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:30:17 >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH THAT ALSO.
02:30:21 APPRECIATE THE FACT, MARTY, THAT YOU ARE ALWAYS AVAILABLE
02:30:24 DAY AND NIGHT, WEEKENDS, EVERYTHING WHEN WE NEED SOMETHING,
02:30:27 AND WE LEAN ON YOU TOO MUCH, AND WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT AS
02:30:31 MUCH.
02:30:31 BUT PART OF IT IS WHAT COUNCILMAN MEMBER GUDES SAID, IS THAT
02:30:37 WE ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON, AND IT'S A BIG JOB.
02:30:42 WE SURELY HAVE THE RESOURCES OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, BUT
02:30:44 WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAVING THREE CLIENTS, AND THE
02:30:48 CHARTER GIVES US THE RIGHT TO HAVE OUR OWN INDEPENDENT
02:30:51 COUNSEL, AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COULD HAVE
02:30:56 HAD, BUT TO THE POINT ABOUT GETTING AN ASSISTANT AND/OR
02:30:59 STAFF OR EVEN THE ABILITY TO HIRE AN OUTSIDE FIRM, I THINK
02:31:04 THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO
02:31:06 THAT, EXPLICITLY IN THE CHARTER, AND WE MISS THAT WHEN WE
02:31:10 WENT THROUGH THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
02:31:12 WAS NOT SOMETHING TO MY RECOLLECTION THAT WE DISCUSSED AT
02:31:14 ALL, BUT WE NEED TO FIX THAT, BECAUSE WHEN SITUATIONS ARISE
02:31:18 AND WE NEED INDEPENDENT COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY
02:31:23 NOT ONLY NEEDS A BACKUP PERSON BUT NEEDS THE ABILITY TO HIRE
02:31:25 OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
02:31:27 RIGHT NOW ONLY THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN DO THAT.
02:31:29 IF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS A CONFLICT, THEN WE ARE IN
02:31:32 BIG TROUBLE.
02:31:33 WE CAN DISCUSS THIS WHEN WE GET TO THE CHARTER DISCUSSION
02:31:35 BUT I THINK WE NEED TO RESOLVE THE CONFLICT OF THE CITY
02:31:38 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT BY CHARTER
02:31:41 EXPLICITLY ALLOWING THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY TO EITHER HIRE
02:31:45 STAFF AND/OR OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
02:31:47 THANK YOU.
02:31:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
02:32:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE CAN, WITH COUNCIL'S
02:32:01 PLEASURE, I PREFER THE OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT
02:32:04 TALKED ABOUT THIS, IF I CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK
02:32:06 WITH YOU AND THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THIS AND THEN BRING
02:32:08 THIS BACK.
02:32:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD WELCOME THAT.
02:32:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE] IF SOMETHING HAPPENS
02:32:23 TO THEM, ALSO.
02:32:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:32:26 IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
02:32:33 CONTINUED TO THE END OF THE MEETING.
02:32:34 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22.
02:32:36 DO WE NEED TO SWEAR PEOPLE IN, GOING INTO FIRST READINGS?
02:32:45 22 IS FIRST READING.
02:32:47 OKAY.
02:32:48 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22.
02:32:49 FILE NUMBER E-2022-8 CHAPTER 2.
02:32:54 >> CARL BRODY, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
02:33:00 I HAVE WITH ME MEGAN FERNHOLZ. SHE'S AN INTERN WITH OUR
02:33:05 OFFICE AND SHE WAS VERY HELPFUL IN PUTTING TOGETHER THE
02:33:08 INITIAL DRAFT OF THIS ORDINANCE.
02:33:10 WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR IS AN ORDINANCE THAT IS ADDRESSING A
02:33:16 CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY WHICH IS TO ALLOW, OR TO
02:33:22 INCORPORATE A BAN THE BOX REQUIREMENT WITH CONTRACTORS.
02:33:27 AND CURRENTLY THE CITY DOES HAVE ITS OWN BAN THE BOX
02:33:30 ORDINANCE.
02:33:31 AND WHAT BAN THE BOX DOES, IT PROHIBITS AN EMPLOYER FROM
02:33:36 CHECKING, DOING A BACKGROUND CHECK ON AN APPLICANT UNTIL
02:33:40 AFTER A CONDITIONAL OFFER IS PROVIDED.
02:33:42 SO IT BASICALLY PROVIDES AN EXTRA OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A
02:33:49 CAREER SHOT AT GETTING A POSITION.
02:33:53 OVERALL, THE PURPOSE OF THE ORDINANCE IS TO HELP INCORPORATE
02:33:57 VENDORS WHO UNDER THE ORDINANCE OR TERMS BY PROVIDING
02:34:04 GREATER EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH BAN THE BOX, AS YOU
02:34:07 SAID BY PROHIBITING EMPLOYERS FROM CHECKING BACKGROUNDS
02:34:10 UNTIL AFTER A CONDITIONAL OFFER IS MADE.
02:34:15 THE ORDINANCE WILL APPLY TO ANY COMPANY THAT'S DOING
02:34:17 BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, AND THE BAN THE BOX REQUIREMENT WILL
02:34:21 BE INCORPORATED.
02:34:23 INTO THE BIDS AND RFP PROCESS.
02:34:27 THE ORDINANCE IS TO INCENTIVIZE, SO THE PURPOSE IS TO
02:34:32 INCENTIVIZE, NOT PUNISH AND THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT IN THE
02:34:35 ORDINANCE THAT ANY CONTRACTOR ACTUALLY FOLLOW THROUGH ON
02:34:38 BANNING THE BOX, OR ACTUALLY BAN THE BOX, IN ORDER TO
02:34:41 RECEIVE THE INCENTIVE, YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE
02:34:44 REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE IN PLACE.
02:34:46 SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR, THAT WE ARE NOT
02:34:50 MAKING THIS MANDATORY.
02:34:51 WE ARE MAKING IT PERMISSIVE AND THEN WE ARE PROVIDING
02:34:55 INCENTIVES FOR ANY BIDDER OR CONTRACTOR THAT WILL COMPLY
02:35:00 WITH OUR BAN THE BOX PROVISION.
02:35:05 TO INCENTIVIZE AND AGREE NOT TO BAN THE BOX AND THE BENEFIT
02:35:10 WILL BE EITHER FIVE POINTS THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS OR A 2%
02:35:16 BID DISCOUNT.
02:35:17 SO IN THE NEAREST CIRCUMSTANCE THERE IS A REAL BENEFIT
02:35:21 TOWARD AGREEING TO BAN THE BOX, BUT AGAIN IT'S NOT REQUIRED.
02:35:27 SO IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE INCENTIVE THE CONTRACTOR MUST
02:35:31 EITHER CURRENTLY EMPLOY EX OFFENDERS, HAS EMPLOYEES EX
02:35:38 OFFENDERS IN THE PAST OR HAVE HIRED EX OFFENDERS IN THE
02:35:42 PAST.
02:35:43 WHAT WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT IS WE HAVE CONTRACTORS WHO ARE
02:35:47 ALREADY COMPLYING WITH BAN THE BOX IN THEIR OWN OR ALREADY
02:35:50 SHOWING THAT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE BY HAVING EX OFFENDERS
02:35:54 AS EMPLOYEES, THEN THEY ARE GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
02:35:59 IF THEY DO NOT HAVE THAT, THEN THAT'S WHERE THE ORDINANCE
02:36:03 COMES INTO PLACE BY ENCOURAGING THEM TO COMPLY WITH THE BAN
02:36:08 THE BOX REQUIREMENTS.
02:36:13 CONTRACTORS WILL MAKE THESE IDENTIFICATIONS ON THE BID
02:36:17 DOCUMENT, SO THAT WILL BE PART OF WHAT THEY PROVIDE IN THE
02:36:20 BID, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE AN EXTRA ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN,
02:36:24 TO BE HONEST, THE PURCHASING AND CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION
02:36:27 DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE TO TAKE ON AS PART OF THE BID DOCUMENTS
02:36:30 TO INCLUDE, INCORPORATE THE BAN THE BOX STANDARDS.
02:36:36 CONTRACTOR MUST AGREE TO CONSIDER EX OFFENDERS ALSO, BUT
02:36:41 AGAIN IF THE CONTRACTOR ALREADY EMPLOYS EX OFFENDERS THEN
02:36:46 THEY WILL HAVE COMPLIED WITH THE REQUIREMENTS, EFFECTIVELY
02:36:52 ACHIEVING THE GOAL THAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE HERE WHICH IS TO
02:36:55 INCORPORATE THESE FOLKS BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH JOB
02:36:59 OPPORTUNITIES.
02:37:00 SO UPON RECEIVING AN INCENTIVE, A CONTRACTOR WILL HAVE TO
02:37:06 FILL OUT A COMPLIANCE REPORT PERIODICALLY JUST TO VERIFY
02:37:10 THAT THEY ARE IN COMPLAINS.
02:37:11 IF THEY ARE NOT, THERE ARE PENALTIES, AND THE PENALTIES
02:37:15 WOULD BE A 10% WITHHOLD ON ANY PAYMENTS DUE THAT CONTRACTOR
02:37:20 DURING THE PERIOD OF THE PROJECT.
02:37:22 SO THAT'S JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE.
02:37:26 READY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
02:37:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:37:30 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
02:37:31 AND FOR OUR INTERIM, WHERE DO YOU GO TO LAW SCHOOL, IF I MAY
02:37:35 ASK?
02:37:36 >> I AM ENTERING MY THIRD YEAR AT UF LAW.
02:37:41 >>LUIS VIERA: IMPRESSIVE.
02:37:42 GOOD FOR YOU.
02:37:42 I'M AN ATTORNEY MYSELF, SO CONGRATULATIONS I MEAN THAT.
02:37:45 THAT'S WONDERFUL.
02:37:47 AND I THANK YOU AND ALL OF YOUR OFFICE FOR YOUR WORK ON
02:37:50 THIS.
02:37:50 >> AND THANK MARCY HAMILTON.
02:38:03 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
02:38:06 I STARTED BY GOING TO BRAD BAIRD AND TALKING ABOUT SOME OF
02:38:08 THE CONTRACTING ISSUES AND HOW FEASIBLE IT WOULD BE,
02:38:11 ET CETERA.
02:38:11 WE HAVE A VERY GOOD COALITION WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER
02:38:15 INCLUDING THE JCC FEDERATION, ABE BROWN MINISTRIES, FLORIDA
02:38:21 RESTORATION COALITION AND OTHER FOLKS WHICH IS REALLY,
02:38:24 REALLY GOOD.
02:38:25 WE HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM AND A CRISIS IN OUR COUNTRY
02:38:28 INVOLVING RETURNING CITIZENS, ABOUT 700,000 FOLKS LEAVE
02:38:33 PRISON AND IN TWO-THIRDS OF THEM WILL REOFFEND AND END BACK
02:38:40 IN PRISON, AND WE HAVE BROKEN HOMES, BROKEN FAMILIES, BROKEN
02:38:43 COMMUNITIES, MORE CRIME AND DYSFUNCTION, AND LOCAL
02:38:45 GOVERNMENT HAS GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB LIKE WE ARE DOING HERE
02:38:48 IN TERMS OF A DRESSING THAT PROBLEM, A PROBLEM THAT AFFECTS
02:38:51 ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES, NO MATTER WHERE YOU COME FROM.
02:38:54 AND I STRESS, THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WORK, WHO WANT
02:38:57 TO WORK THEIR TAIL OFF SO THEY CAN PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE FOR
02:39:01 THEIR FAMILY.
02:39:02 THIS IS A PRO-WORK PROGRAM.
02:39:04 EVERYBODY SHOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THIS.
02:39:05 AGAIN, THIS IS JUST PART OF A NUMBER OF STEPS THAT WE ARE
02:39:08 TAKING.
02:39:08 WE ARE LOOKING AT INCENTIVES FOR BANNING THE BOX AND HOW WE
02:39:12 ARE RETURNING CITIZENS TO REWARD THOSE CONTRACTORS THAT DO
02:39:15 THE RIGHT THING AND TO PUT THAT ISSUE FORWARD INTO THE
02:39:18 MAINSTREAM.
02:39:19 THIS ISN'T AN ISSUE THAT ANYBODY SHOULD BE AFRAID TO TOUCH.
02:39:22 IT'S AN ISSUE THAT YOU AFFECTS ALL COMMUNITIES, AND IN THIS
02:39:25 YEAR'S BUDGET WE ARE GOING TO ALSO CONSIDER FUNDS FOR A
02:39:27 RETURNING CITIZEN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM BETWEEN THE CITY
02:39:30 AND THE COUNTY, SO AGAIN TAKE THOSE RETURNING CITIZENS WHO
02:39:34 ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS GET -- GO UP TO BAT AND TAKE A SWING
02:39:38 AT LIFE, RIGHT?
02:39:40 FOR A JOB SO THEY CAN PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE FOR THEIR
02:39:43 FAMILIES AND GIVE THEM A SHOT AT IMPROVING THEIR OWN SKILLS
02:39:46 SO THEY CAN GO FORWARD.
02:39:47 SO THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
02:39:49 I THANK YOU GUYS, AGAIN ALL OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT,
02:39:52 CONTRACT, EVERYBODY, IN THE ADMINISTRATION FOR YOUR HARD
02:39:55 WORK ON THIS AND ALL OF OUR PARTNERS.
02:39:57 SO THANK YOU.
02:39:57 AND ESPECIALLY TO OUR INTERN.
02:40:00 IT'S REALLY COOL YOU GET TO BE WORK ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
02:40:04 THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
02:40:05 >> OH, YEAH, I HAD A GREAT TIME.
02:40:09 SO SAID OKAY.
02:40:12 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY TO SAY THIS, A LOT OF LAWYERS DON'T
02:40:15 SPEND THEIR CAREERS HELPING PEOPLE IN THIS REGARD, IF
02:40:19 THERE'S A LOT OF SELF INTEREST, BUT HERE YOU ARE REALLY
02:40:22 WORKING ON SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY GOING TO GO HELP PEOPLE,
02:40:25 IN A COMPASSIONATE AND DEVOTED WAY.
02:40:27 SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
02:40:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:40:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL VIERA FOR
02:40:33 YOUR COMMENTS AND EVERYONE FOR THEIR HARD WORK.
02:40:35 I OFTEN STRESS AND TALK ABOUT COMPASSION, UNDERSTANDING,
02:40:39 SECOND CHANCES AND FORGIVENESS.
02:40:41 AND A PERSON'S LIVELY SHOULDN'T END BECAUSE THEY MADE A
02:40:46 MISTAKE ONCE.
02:40:47 AND YOU CAN'T KILL THE PATH TO THE AMERICAN DREAM WHATEVER
02:40:50 THAT MAY BE BECAUSE SOMEONE MADE A MISTAKE ONCE.
02:40:53 AND AS COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, THERE ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS AND
02:40:58 PEOPLE THAT GO BACK INTO THE SYSTEM.
02:41:00 THIS ALLOWS PEOPLE WHO PAID THEIR DEBT, FOR WHATEVER
02:41:03 HAPPENED, WHATEVER THE SITUATION IS, TO HAVE A HAND UP, NOT
02:41:08 A HANDOUT, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO WORK, AND THEY WANT TO
02:41:11 BETTER THEMSELVES.
02:41:12 I HAVE MET IN MY LIFE SELF PEOPLE THAT MADE MISTAKES WHEN
02:41:16 THEY WERE YOUNG AND THEY WENT TO PRISON AND CONVICTED
02:41:20 FELONS, WHATEVER IT IS, AND THEY ARE ALL GOOD PEOPLE.
02:41:22 AND YOU CAN'T JUDGE THEM BECAUSE THEY DID SOMETHING AT 19 OR
02:41:26 25 OR WHATEVER.
02:41:27 IT'S ABOUT FORGIVENESS AND BEING COMPASSIONATE.
02:41:30 AND TAKE IT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
02:41:33 THERE ARE BAD PEOPLE.
02:41:34 THERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
02:41:35 BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT AGAIN DON'T DESERVE TO HIT A
02:41:39 DEAD-END FOREVER JUST BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED
02:41:41 ONCE.
02:41:41 SO THANKS VERY MUCH.
02:41:43 I'M GLAD THIS IS HERE.
02:41:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:41:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I VAGUELY REMEMBER, I THOUGHT THERE WAS AN
02:41:49 AMENDMENT TO THIS WHEN COUNCILMAN VIERA MADE IT.
02:41:53 I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE DOCUMENT WITH THAT AMENDMENT.
02:41:57 I ASKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW BAN THE BOX.
02:42:01 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REAL SUCCESS RATE OF BAN THE BOX.
02:42:07 UNTIL YOU GET TO THE ACTUAL INTERVIEW.
02:42:10 AT LEAST KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
02:42:11 SO I DON'T KNOW THE SUCCESS RATE OF THE CITY.
02:42:14 I DON'T KNOW.
02:42:16 BUT IT'S AN AVENUE, AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE DOOR, BUT THE
02:42:24 PROBLEM I HAVE IS THESE BUSINESSES WHO DO WANT TO EMPLOY,
02:42:29 LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THEY SOMETIMES CAN'T.
02:42:32 I THOUGHT I MADE IT CLEAR THAT A LOT OF TIMES EMPLOY AT THE
02:42:40 TIMES, AND A BAR OR SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN HELP AS WELL,
02:42:46 BECAUSE TO MAKE IT REALLY, REALLY WORK, IT'S NICE THAT WE
02:42:51 ARE GOING TO FIND A CAVEAT, SOMETHING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO
02:42:53 MOVE THE NEEDLE, BUT IT'S ONLY GOING TO MOVE A LITTLE BIT
02:42:57 BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE, BUSINESSES OR
02:43:02 CONTRACTORS NOW, GIVE THEM A HARD TIME WITH RETURNING
02:43:05 CITIZENS, BUT I AM GLAD WE ARE DOING SOMETHING.
02:43:07 BUT I WANT TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH ON HOW WE CAN HELP THAT
02:43:12 AS WELL AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN HERE.
02:43:14 >> WELL, THAT'S A SEPARATE QUESTION FROM THIS.
02:43:17 WE DIDN'T WANT TO INCORPORATE THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE REAL
02:43:21 QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE CITY CAN GIVE
02:43:29 CREDIT, AND THAT'S KIND OF A SEPARATE ISSUE.
02:43:31 WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON INITIALLY JUST GETTING SOMETHING IN
02:43:34 PLACE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE STANDARD
02:43:40 FOR CONTRACTORS TO COME FORWARD AND BE ENCOURAGED TO
02:43:46 CONSIDER THESE.
02:43:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT TODAY BUT I WANT
02:43:50 TO SEE SOMETHING FROM YOUR OFFICE SAYING HOW WE CAN GO TO
02:43:54 THAT NEXT STEP BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO NEED THAT, REALLY
02:43:57 EMPLOYING THOSE WHO HAVE SOME BACKGROUND CHALLENGES,
02:44:01 RECIDIVISM, WE ARE GOING TO NEED SOMETHING ELSE.
02:44:04 JUST BEING TRUTHFUL ON THE MATTER.
02:44:07 >>CARL BRODY: I THINK WE HAD DISCUSSION ON THIS, AND IT'S
02:44:09 KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE EBO SIDE, THE BONDING AND INSURANCE
02:44:17 ISSUES IN BOTH CASES.
02:44:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW WE MADE A MOTION A COUPLE YEARS AGO
02:44:24 ABOUT THAT, MR. MIRANDA, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ABOUT
02:44:27 DISCUSSIONS THAT WE ASKED ABOUT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THE
02:44:30 NEEDLE ON THOSE ISSUES.
02:44:31 SO I AM HOPING THAT WE HAVE INTERN, I AM GLAD, YOU ARE A
02:44:35 GATOR, HOPEFULLY DO SOME RESEARCH TO BRING BACK TO THIS
02:44:40 COUNCIL HOW WE CAN REALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE, AND REALLY EMPLOY
02:44:43 PEOPLE, GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY.
02:44:45 >>CARL BRODY: UNDERSTOOD.
02:44:46 AND WHAT WE CAN DO, WE CAN COME BACK SEPARATE FROM THIS.
02:44:52 I WOULD LIKE TO -- WE WANT TO GET THROUGH, AND IT SEEMS IT'S
02:44:58 PRETTY NONCONTROVERSIAL, STRAIGHTFORWARD PROGRAM, IT'S
02:45:02 NOTHING BUT POSITIVE.
02:45:04 TAKING THAT NEXT STEP WE'LL HAVE TO DO MORE ANALYSIS ON, AND
02:45:07 PROVIDE YOU WITH WHAT OPTIONS ARE THERE.
02:45:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
02:45:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO JUST ASK, MR. CHAIRMAN, GET
02:45:17 SOMEONE TO READ.
02:45:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE BEEN WANTING TO.
02:45:21 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CAN YOU TAKE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22,
02:45:24 PLEASE?
02:45:25 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.
02:45:28 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE E-2022-8 CH 2.
02:45:34 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
02:45:36 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AMENDING CHAPTER
02:45:39 2, ARTICLE V, DIVISION 3 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE SECTION
02:45:45 2-284 BIDDER'S CRIMINAL HISTORY SCREENING PRACTICES, SAID
02:45:51 AMENDMENT PROVIDING FOR THE REVISION OF THE PROCUREMENT
02:45:54 EVALUATION PROCESS FOR THE PURPOSE OF INCENTIVIZING
02:45:58 CONTRACTORS TO HIRE DISADVANTAGED WORKERS, REQUIRING
02:46:00 CONTRACTORS WHO ARE AWARDED PROJECTS AND RECEIVE INCENTIVES
02:46:04 IN THE PROCUREMENT EVALUATION PROCESS TO SHOW A GOOD FAITH
02:46:06 EFFORT TO EMPLOY DISADVANTAGED WORKERS, REPEALING ALL
02:46:10 ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH,
02:46:13 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:46:14 >> SECOND.
02:46:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED BY
02:46:18 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:46:19 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:46:21 I'M SORRY, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
02:46:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
02:46:25 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:46:26 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:46:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:46:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:46:29 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:46:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
02:46:31 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:46:33 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON AUGUST 4th,
02:46:37 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
02:46:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23.
02:46:40 FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 23.5.
02:46:46 >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY VERY QUICKLY.
02:46:50 I REALLY APPRECIATE CARL FOR INTRODUCING MEETING ANSWER.
02:46:54 YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE OUR OTHER TWO INTERNS SITTING HERE ALL
02:46:57 DAY.
02:46:57 WE HAVE JASON DECKER FROM LSU LAW SCHOOL.
02:47:02 STAND UP.
02:47:03 AND WE HAVE CARLOS GARCIA PEREZ.
02:47:05 HE HAS NOT YET STARTED LAW SCHOOL BUT HE DID RECENTLY
02:47:08 GRADUATE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA OF THE NORTH ALSO
02:47:11 KNOWN AS HARVARD UNIVERSITY.
02:47:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU BOTH.
02:47:16 WELCOME TO THE FAMILY.
02:47:17 AGAIN, CHAPTER 23, FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 23.5.
02:47:23 >> MIKE SCHMID, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, WITH REGARDS TO
02:47:30 AGENDA ITEM 23, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
02:47:34 FIRST READING.
02:47:35 WE ARE AMENDING SECTION 23.5 OF THE CODE.
02:47:40 IT IS A TABLE IN THERE IN WHICH WE ARE ADDING 25-172
02:47:47 CONCERNING SKATEBOARDING SO THAT SKATEBOARDING CAN BE
02:47:50 PUNISHED AS A CIVIL CITATION SO WE ARE AMENDING 23.5 TO
02:47:54 ALLOW SKATEBOARDING TO BE PUNISHABLE WITH A CIVIL CITATION.
02:48:00 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
02:48:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
02:48:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT --
02:48:07 >> IS THAT STATE LAW?
02:48:10 >>MIKE SCHMID: IT'S ONLY A SPECIFIED LOCATION.
02:48:13 SO UNDER 25-172 WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR A WHILE, WE ARE
02:48:18 JUST MAKING IT A CIVIL CITATION PUNISHABLE.
02:48:22 YOU CANNOT SKATEBOARD ON CERTAIN LOCATIONS, BEING STREETS
02:48:27 AND ROADWAYS, OR SIDEWALKS IN DOWNTOWN, IN YBOR, OR PUBLIC
02:48:35 LOTS, OR WHERE SIGNS PROHIBIT IT.
02:48:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:48:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT TO HOLD IT UP, IF THIS PASSES TODAY
02:48:47 AND I AM SURE IT WILL, BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING IF
02:48:49 IT DOESN'T CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS, THAT THOSE AREAS BE LISTED.
02:48:54 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING THAT THOSE AREAS THAT YOU
02:48:57 SPECIFICALLY SPOKE ABOUT WHERE IT'S PROHIBITED, IT BE LISTED
02:49:00 IN THE ORDINANCE.
02:49:00 >> THE ORDINANCE 25-117 DOES ALREADY SPECIFICALLY LIST IT I
02:49:07 UNDERSTAND IT.
02:49:08 YOU KNOW IT.
02:49:09 I KNOW IT.
02:49:10 MAYBE I DON'T KNOW IT.
02:49:11 I DON'T WANT ANY EXCUSE.
02:49:15 THAT'S ALL I AM TRYING TO SAY.
02:49:17 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:49:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP
02:49:26 BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY STREETS, KIDS AND PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT
02:49:31 WE ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE START CITING PEOPLE.
02:49:35 I THINK WHEN IT COMES BACK, SO PEOPLE CAN READ EXACTLY WHAT
02:49:39 IT'S STATED WHERE WE TALK ABOUT SKATEBOARDS, THAT UTILIZE
02:49:42 THEIR PROPERTIES, I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, SO
02:49:47 THE PUBLIC CAN KNOW, BECAUSE I GUARANTEE YOU, WHEN WE START
02:49:54 TICKETING KIDS, WE ARE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IT IN CITY
02:49:56 COUNCIL.
02:49:57 SO LET'S BE A LITTLE MORE DESCRIPTIVE.
02:49:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:50:04 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT'S THE GENESIS OF THIS?
02:50:06 I DON'T SEE THAT SOMEBODY ON COUNCIL PROPOSED IT.
02:50:08 WHERE DID IT COME FROM? WHAT PROBLEMS ARE THEY TRYING TO
02:50:10 SOLVE?
02:50:11 >> 25-172 HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR YEARS, ALREADY PROHIBITS
02:50:15 SKATEBOARDING IN SPECIFIED LOCATIONS.
02:50:17 PRESENTLY, SKATEBOARDING UNDER 25-172 WOULD BE PUNISHED BY
02:50:22 NOTICE TO APPEAR BY OFFICERS, SO FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU VIOLATE
02:50:25 25-172, AN OFFICER COULD DETAIN YOU, AND YOU COULD BE
02:50:31 ARRESTED, ISSUED A NOTICE TO APPEAR TO COME BEFORE A JUDGE
02:50:37 IN FRONT OF COUNTY COURT.
02:50:39 OBVIOUSLY, WE THINK WHAT THE IMPETUS BEHIND THIS IS, IS WE
02:50:45 BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE BEST FOR CIVIL CITATION TO BE
02:50:45 ISSUED FOR SKATEBOARD VIOLATIONS AND NOT NOTICE TO APPEAR IN
02:50:49 COUNTY COURT.
02:50:50 SO IN ESSENCE THIS IS TAKING AN ORDINANCE THAT'S ALREADY IN
02:50:53 PLACE INSTEAD OF HAVING IT BEFORE COUNTY COURT, IN FRONT OF
02:50:56 A JUDGE IN THE CRIMINAL DIVISION, IT'S GOING TO TAKE IT SO
02:51:01 THAT SKATEBOARDING WOULD BE A CIVIL CITATION. IN ESSENCE WE
02:51:05 ARE MAKING IT PUNISHABLE AS A CIVIL CITATION MATTER RATHER
02:51:09 THAN BY A CRIMINAL --
02:51:10 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ARE REDUCING THE PUNISHMENT.
02:51:18 >> CORRECT.
02:51:19 WE ARE REDUCING THE PUNISHMENT FOR SKATEBOARDING.
02:51:22 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M JUST OPPOSED TO ANY OF THIS. I WOULD
02:51:24 LIKE TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BECAUSE I AM AGAINST IT, PERIOD,
02:51:26 BUT I AM CONFLICTED BECAUSE IF IT'S BETTER THAN IT IS NOW,
02:51:30 THEN I MIGHT VOTE FOR IT.
02:51:33 CONSIDERING WHAT HAPPENED WITH BIKING WHILE BLACK, I DON'T
02:51:38 FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GIVE
02:51:40 TICKETS TO KIDS.
02:51:40 I DON'T AGREE WITH KIDS BEING HAULED IN FRONT OF JUDGES
02:51:43 EITHER.
02:51:44 IF THE KID IS CAUSING DAMAGE TO A CITY PARK OR SOMETHING
02:51:46 LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK KIDS, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME ELEMENT OF
02:51:54 REASONABLENESS WITH KIDS.
02:51:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:52:00 >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW IT MAY BE BY THE CITY OF TAMPA, I
02:52:08 AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON ON THIS.
02:52:10 I AM NOT -- WHILE IT MAY REDUCE THE PENALTIES, IN A WAY, I
02:52:18 THINK THE ACTUAL CITATION AMOUNTS ARE AWFULLY HIGH WHEN YOU
02:52:21 ARE TALKING ABOUT CHILDREN.
02:52:26 HOW OFTEN DO YOU USE THIS?
02:52:28 I MEAN, AGAIN, I ALSO WONDER WHEN THIS CAME UP.
02:52:30 SO HOW MANY TIMES, HOW MANY TICKETS ARE WE ISSUING?
02:52:37 >> I'LL TELL YOU IT'S EXTREMELY RARE.
02:52:41 BUT I BROUGHT THIS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL NOT BECAUSE OF 25-172
02:52:48 ITSELF, JUST BECAUSE IN MY OPINION IT NEEDS TO BE A CIVIL
02:52:52 CITATION.
02:52:53 WHETHER OR NOT CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO LOOK AT 25-172, IT'S
02:52:58 NOT THE INTENT TODAY.
02:53:00 I JUST FELT THAT BASED ON CHAPTER 316 AND WHAT IT COVERS
02:53:08 PRESENTLY UNDER LIKE VIOLATIONS, THIS NEEDS TO BE A CIVIL
02:53:15 CITATION.
02:53:15 SO IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MAKE IT A CIVIL CITATION.
02:53:20 IF CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO EXPLORE THE UNDERLYING ORDINANCE
02:53:23 ITSELF, 25-172, YOU ARE CERTAINLY FREE TO DO THAT AS A
02:53:27 STRAIGHT MOTION.
02:53:28 I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GO AHEAD AND PASS THE FIRST READING
02:53:32 TODAY ON THIS, AND IF YOU WANT A SEPARATE MOTION TO CONSIDER
02:53:36 25-172, YOU MAKE THAT AS A SEPARATE MOTION.
02:53:41 BUT TODAY, I WAS ONLY TRYING TO COME BEFORE YOU SO THAT WE
02:53:45 COULD MAKE THIS VIOLATION A CIVIL CITATION.
02:53:50 HOPEFULLY THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS TO THAT PORTION OF IT
02:53:53 BECAUSE WE ARE JUST SIMPLY TRYING TO MOVE IT INTO THE USE
02:53:56 TABLE, IT'S A $75 CITATION WHICH IS THE LOWEST FINE IN OUR
02:54:01 TABLE, UNDER 23.5-5.
02:54:05 SO I THINK THIS CLEARLY IS A MUCH BETTER OPTION THAN ISSUING
02:54:11 KIDS, AS YOU SAY, A NOTICE TO APPEAR TO COUNTY CRIMINAL
02:54:14 COURT.
02:54:15 SO IN ESSENCE WE ARE REDUCING PENALTIES, AND I THINK
02:54:19 HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HAVE YOUR FULL SUPPORT.
02:54:22 AND THEN IF YOU WANT A SEPARATE MOTION TO LOOK AT CHAPTER
02:54:26 25-172, I THINK IT'S UP TO CITY COUNCIL'S DECISION.
02:54:30 >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THE MORE DETAIL, BUT THE $25
02:54:41 CIVIL CITATION -- AND IT'S REALLY NOT KIDS, IT'S PARENTS WHO
02:54:45 ARE GOING TO PAY THAT, AND RIGHT NOW, IF THIS IS NOT A GIANT
02:54:49 ISSUE TO BEGIN WITH --
02:54:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WISH YOU CAN CONTINUE IT FOR TWO
02:54:57 WEEKS.
02:54:58 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD PREFER THAT.
02:54:59 I THINK WE ARE ALL KIND OF NOT OKAY WITH THAT.
02:55:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:55:08 LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
02:55:09 AND THEN -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:55:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S ABOUT -- AND OTHER TOY VEHICLES.
02:55:21 LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
02:55:22 I GUARANTEE YOU, MOST OF YOU SEE WHEN YOU GO OUT PEOPLE ON
02:55:27 THE SCOOTERS WHEN SOME ARE RIDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
02:55:29 STREET, AND DOING REALLY -- I HAVE SEEN THEM AS I LEAVE
02:55:33 HERE.
02:55:34 AND THAT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS I WOULD IMAGINE FALLS UNDER
02:55:38 TOY VEHICLES.
02:55:38 I DON'T KNOW WHAT A TOY VEHICLE IS.
02:55:41 IT COULD BE A ROADSTER THAT GOES 200 MILES PER HOUR.
02:55:47 I DON'T KNOW.
02:55:49 IT COULD BE ANYTHING.
02:55:50 SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS, AND ALL OF YOU WHO WALK THE
02:55:53 RIVERWALK, WALK THERE AT NIGHT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
02:55:58 I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WE ARE LUCKY THAT SOMEBODY HASN'T GOT
02:56:01 HURT REAL BAD.
02:56:02 THE SKATEBOARDING IS GOING LIKE THEY ARE GOING 30 MILES PER
02:56:05 HOUR AND THEY AT YOU LIKE GET OUT OF THE WAY.
02:56:08 AND THE LAST TIME I WAS THERE, I HAD TO GET OUT OF THE WAY,
02:56:15 WHICH IS FINE.
02:56:16 BUT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE YOU HAVE TO DRAW THE LINE OUR
02:56:20 YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE LAWSUITS THAN YOU CAN HANDLE IF
02:56:23 WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE.
02:56:24 >>BILL CARLSON: I FEEL FORGET STRONGLY THAT WE SHOULD MAKE
02:56:27 A MOTION.
02:56:28 I CAN MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RELOOK AT 25-172 ALTOGETHER.
02:56:32 WE HAVE THREE INTERNS.
02:56:35 ARE THEY STILL BACK THERE?
02:56:36 AND THEY PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS WHO RIDE THESE KINDS
02:56:39 OF DEVICES OR MAYBE YOUNGER SIBLINGS WHO HAVE THEM.
02:56:42 BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT UPDATING THIS POLICY IN LINE
02:56:45 WITH WHAT PROGRESSIVE CITIES ARE DOING.
02:56:49 WE DON'T WANT TO UNFAIRLY PENALIZE KIDS.
02:56:53 AT THE SAME TIME, WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO INTERRUPT
02:57:00 FOLKS WHO HAVE DISABILITIES THAT CAN BARELY WALK OR ON
02:57:04 CRUTCHES OR IN WHEELCHAIRS.
02:57:05 WE DON'T WANT DAMAGE TO OUR FACILITIES.
02:57:07 WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE GOING TOO FAST.
02:57:09 BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE MUST BE SOME WAY THAT WE CAN LIMIT
02:57:13 THIS WITHOUT BEING ONEROUS.
02:57:18 I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO, TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT
02:57:20 BETTER.
02:57:21 I WOULD LIKE TO JUST REDO THE WHOLE THING.
02:57:23 DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A MOTION NOW OR LATER?
02:57:26 >> CAN I HAVE A FINAL WORD?
02:57:28 >>BILL CARLSON: SURE.
02:57:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
02:57:29 AS A FORMER THRASHER, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.
02:57:33 YOU LOOK AT MIAMI.
02:57:34 IT'S HURTING.
02:57:35 LOOK AT MIAMI'S ORDINANCE ON ALL NON-ADA MOTORIZED VEHICLES
02:57:42 ON SIDEWALKS.
02:57:44 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS A POINT.
02:57:46 HOWEVER, HERE IN TAMPA WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR
02:57:51 ALL THESE MOTORIZED VEHICLES.
02:57:53 SCOOTERS, THOSE LITTLE ONE-WHEEL THINGS YOU RIDE.
02:57:57 WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR DEDICATED LANES FOR
02:58:00 THAT TYPE OF TRAVEL.
02:58:02 HERE WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS WE ARE GOING TO GIVE A TICKET FOR
02:58:06 A HUMAN-POWERED SKATEBOARD THAT AT TOP SPEED ONLY GOES 10
02:58:12 MILES AN HOUR.
02:58:12 WHEN YOU HAVE GOT E-BIKES GOING DOWN BAYSHORE DOING 25, 30
02:58:16 MILES AN HOUR ON THE SIDEWALK.
02:58:20 THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
02:58:22 I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS RIGHT NOW.
02:58:24 WHO WANTS TO READ SOMETHING OR MAKE A MOTION?
02:58:27 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
02:58:29 >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING FIRST?
02:58:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST REAL QUICK.
02:58:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALWAYS WANTED TO BEFORE I LEFT HERE,
02:58:35 SKATEBOARD DOWN TAMPA STREET IN A SUIT.
02:58:40 THERE'S A PHOTO OF A GUY IN THE SIXTIES IN NEW YORK DOING
02:58:43 THAT.
02:58:44 I WOULD LIKE TO CREATE THAT.
02:58:46 NOW I HAVE TO THINK TWICE.
02:58:47 [ LAUGHTER ]
02:58:51 >>BILL CARLSON: HOW LONG -- IS SEPTEMBER 1st TOO SOON
02:58:57 TO COME BACK TO LOOK AT 25-172?
02:59:00 >>MIKE SCHMID: I WOULD NEED MORE DIRECTION ABOUT WHAT YOU
02:59:09 MEAN BY LOOK AT 25-172.
02:59:10 >> I WOULD ASK THAT STAFF REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL ON
02:59:13 SEPTEMBER 1st REGARDING BENCHMARKING WITH MODERN CITY
02:59:23 POLICIES REGARDING THESE DEVICES AND WITH SUGGESTIONS ON HOW
02:59:30 TO REVISE 25-172 TO HELP THE CITY OF TAMPA TO BECOME
02:59:36 UP-TO-DATE WITH THE MODERN POLICIES.
02:59:40 >> SECOND.
02:59:43 >>BILL CARLSON: BY THE WAY, MINOR POLICIES THAT PROVIDE
02:59:45 PROTECTION FOR OUR CITIZENS THAT ARE NOT ONEROUS ON
02:59:48 CHILDREN.
02:59:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME.
02:59:53 AS FAR AS ANY TYPE OF MOTORIZED, NONMOTORIZED VEHICLE?
02:59:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH.
03:00:00 I KIND OF SAID THAT IN THE BEGINNING.
03:00:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU GETTING THIS?
03:00:04 I KNOW YOU ARE LOOKING AT US LIKE --
03:00:08 >> A LOT MORE COMPLICATED BEFORE.
03:00:11 SO THIS IS A SKATEBOARDING ORDINANCE.
03:00:15 AND AGAIN, WAY WAS ONLY TRYING TO DO WAS TRYING TO LESSEN
03:00:19 THE PENALTY.
03:00:22 OBVIOUSLY IF CITY COUNCIL WANTS -- NOW ONCE WE START GOING
03:00:26 INTO SCOOTERS AND MIKES AND THAT GETS SUPER COMPLICATED.
03:00:30 AND WE WOULD NEED A LOT MORE.
03:00:32 >>BILL CARLSON: DIDN'T MR. MIRANDA SAY IT INCLUDES ALL
03:00:38 THOSE OTHER DEVICES?
03:00:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY TO
03:00:43 INTERRUPT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE COUNCIL TO TAKE A
03:00:46 LOOK AT 25-172 TO SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING, BECAUSE THE EFFECT
03:00:51 COULD ACTUALLY BE TO INCREASE ENFORCEMENT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW
03:00:54 IT'S NOT REALLY BEING ENFORCED AS MR. SCHMID SAID, BUT BY
03:00:59 MAKING IT A CIVIL CITATION IT'S A MUCH MORE ONEROUS BURDEN
03:01:03 ON LAW ENFORCEMENT AND COULD MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE TO
03:01:05 ENFORCE IT.
03:01:06 >>BILL CARLSON: IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE THAT WOULD PASS SO WE
03:01:10 COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT ANOTHER TIME.
03:01:12 IF OUT WANT TO KEEP IT SIMPLE I WOULD ASK STAFF TO COME BACK
03:01:15 TO US ON SEPTEMBER 1st TO DISCUSS ANY BENCHMARK PROPOSED
03:01:20 CHANGES TO 25-172.
03:01:23 >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
03:01:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, YOU ASKED THE QUESTION, 316
03:01:32 FLORIDA STATUTES, REGULATE AMONG OTHER THINGS THE STREETS,
03:01:36 BICYCLES, PERSONS ON SKATES, AND OTHER TOY VEHICLES, AND IT
03:01:43 SHOULDN'T EVEN BE STREETS, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE
03:01:46 NOT ON THE STREETS.
03:01:47 THERE'S A SIDEWALK, A WALKWAY.
03:01:50 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE A SECOND?
03:01:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED BY
03:02:02 COUNCIL HURTAK.
03:02:03 ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:02:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:02:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:02:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
03:02:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:02:14 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:02:15 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:02:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:02:16 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO.
03:02:19 >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS 23 UP OR DOWN?
03:02:28 OR I CAN CONTINUE IT TO THE SAME DAY.
03:02:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONTINUE IT TO THE SAME DAY.
03:02:35 >>BILL CARLSON: I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE NUMBER 23, FILE
03:02:38 NUMBER E-2022-8 CH, 23.5 TO SEPTEMBER 1st TO FOLLOW THE
03:02:46 PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED ITEM.
03:02:49 >> SECOND.
03:02:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED BY
03:02:54 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:02:55 ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:02:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:02:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
03:03:02 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:03:03 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:03:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:03:05 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:03:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:03:07 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
03:03:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
03:03:09 INTERNS, AGAIN, WELCOME TO THE FAMILY.
03:03:13 ALL RIGHT.
03:03:13 AS PER REQUEST, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24 IS BEING REMOVED PER
03:03:22 THE REQUEST OF MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ.
03:03:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO REMOVE FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
03:03:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:03:35 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
03:03:40 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:03:41 ANY OPPOSED?
03:03:42 AGAIN, WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25, PER THE REQUEST OF MS.
03:03:47 JOHNSON-VELEZ, THAT IS ALSO TO BE REMOVED.
03:03:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REMOVE THE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
03:03:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
03:03:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR?
03:04:00 ANY OPPOSED?
03:04:01 THANK YOU.
03:04:01 WE ARE NOW AT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26.
03:04:05 FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
03:04:11 IT COULD COLT DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:04:13 THIS IS THE FIRST ON THE AGENDA, BOTH WORKSHOPPED AT THE
03:04:17 APRIL WORKSHOP.
03:04:19 GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT CAME BEFORE YOU ON.
03:04:22 THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO 27-11, WHICH IS A FORMAL DECISION
03:04:26 PROCESSING THAT WE DO MOST PRIMARILY, THIS WAS PRIMARILY FOR
03:04:30 LOT SPLITS.
03:04:31 THIS IS SIMPLY CODIFYING WHAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE EXAMINE
03:04:36 PROPOSED SEPARATION OF LOTS, ADMINISTRATIVELY, THAT COME
03:04:41 BEFORE YOU BECAUSE OF REZONING OR SUCH, AND THE BIGGEST
03:04:44 THING ON THIS REQUEST AS THIS AMENDMENT WOULD BE, LET'S SEE,
03:05:03 THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A TYPICAL LOT SPLIT THAT COMES BEFORE
03:05:06 THE CITY.
03:05:07 RIGHT NOW IF SOMEBODY CAME BEFORE US, THIS IS ACTUALLY AN
03:05:09 EXISTING CASE, THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW TO GET A
03:05:12 DESIGN EXCEPTION FOR THE EXISTING STRUCTURE TO GO FROM THE
03:05:16 REQUIRED FIVE FEET ON THE NORTH SIDE YARD DOWN TO FOUR AND A
03:05:20 HALF FEET.
03:05:21 THIS WOULD ALLOW THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR DESIGNEE TO
03:05:23 RECOGNIZE THE EXISTING SETBACK, TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER
03:05:29 PROCESS, A DESIGN EXCEPTION OR GO TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW
03:05:31 BOARD.
03:05:32 SO IN THE EVENT TEN YEARS FROM NOW, IF SOMEBODY WERE TO BUY
03:05:37 THIS LOT AND KNOCK THE HOUSE DOWN THEY WOULD HAVE TO REQUIRE
03:05:41 WITH THIS REQUIREMENT OF CODE. IF THEY GET AN
03:05:42 ADMINISTRATIVE WAIVER TO THE SETBACK OR GO BEFORE THE REVIEW
03:05:46 BOARD THEY COULD BUILD BACK TO THAT FOOTPRINT, AND BOUNCE
03:05:50 BACK TO WHERE THEY BELONG AT THE SEVEN FEET.
03:05:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION?
03:06:00 >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
03:06:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
03:06:02 WONDERFUL.
03:06:03 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. COTTON.
03:06:06 COUNCILMAN VIERA?
03:06:07 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
03:06:11 I MOVE FILE NUMBER E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27, ORDINANCE BEING
03:06:17 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF
03:06:20 THE CITY OF TAMPA FLORIDA RELATING TO FORMAL DECISION MAKING
03:06:24 REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27
03:06:28 ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT AMENDING SECTION 27-11 CREATION
03:06:31 OF NEW LOTS, REDUCTION OF LOT OR YARD DIMENSIONS BELOW
03:06:37 MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS REPEALING ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
03:06:40 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY
03:06:43 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:06:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA -- EXCUSE
03:06:53 ME.
03:06:55 SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
03:06:57 ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:06:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
03:07:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:07:01 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:07:02 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:07:03 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:07:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:07:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:07:06 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
03:07:08 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON AUGUST 4th,
03:07:11 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
03:07:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:07:16 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 27.
03:07:18 FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
03:07:24 >>ERIC COTTON: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:07:25 AGAIN THIS IS WORKSHOPPED AT THE APRIL HEARING, AN AMENDMENT
03:07:28 TO 27-132 WHICH IS A SPECIAL USE CRITERIA FOR THE TRANSFER
03:07:32 OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, RECEIVING SITES.
03:07:35 THIS OUTLINES THE PROCESS IN WHICH PROPERTY CAN --
03:07:39 DEVELOPMENT ABILITY TO TRANSFER FROM ONE SITE TO ANOTHER.
03:07:42 THIS JUST RENUMBERS BASICALLY CODIFIES THE FACT YOU NEED TO
03:07:46 GO THROUGH A FORMAL DECISION PROCESS TO ESTABLISH THAT THE
03:07:49 SITE DOES HAVE THE TDR TO BE TRANSFERRED, DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS
03:07:53 TO BE TRANSFERRED, AND ELIMINATES ONE OF THE SECTIONS THAT
03:07:56 DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE IN OUR CODE, AND THEN JUST ELIMINATES
03:07:59 THE ABILITY FOR AN APPLICANT TO SEEK WAIVERS TO THOSE
03:08:02 CRITERIA.
03:08:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS?
03:08:09 THANK YOU.
03:08:09 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:08:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
03:08:12 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
03:08:14 TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO THE TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT
03:08:17 RIGHTS MAKING REVISIONS TO THE TAMPA CITY OF CODE OF
03:08:19 ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27 BE ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT
03:08:22 AMENDING SECTION 27-132 REGULATIONS GOVERNING INDIVIDUAL
03:08:26 SPECIAL USES, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
03:08:28 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY
03:08:32 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:08:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
03:08:35 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:08:36 ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:08:37 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:08:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:08:41 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:08:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:08:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
03:08:43 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:08:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:08:46 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
03:08:47 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON AUGUST 4, 2022
03:08:51 AT 9:30 A.M.
03:08:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:08:54 OKAY, LET'S ROCK AND ROLL WITH OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS.
03:08:58 COUNCILMAN VIERA, CAN YOU READ ITEMS 28 THROUGH 30?
03:09:06 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
03:09:08 HEREBY MOVE ITEMS 28 THROUGH 33.
03:09:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:09:11 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:09:13 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:09:13 PARKS AND RECREATION.
03:09:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
03:09:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN.
03:09:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
03:09:21 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:09:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:09:24 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:09:25 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:09:27 >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 43 THROUGH 60.
03:09:31 >> MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECONDED BY
03:09:34 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:09:35 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:09:36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:09:37 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:09:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 61 THROUGH 69.
03:09:41 >> MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:09:43 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:09:45 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:09:48 ANY AGAINST?
03:09:49 THANK YOU.
03:09:49 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 70 THROUGH 88.
03:09:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND
03:09:57 BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:09:58 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:09:59 ANY OPPOSED?
03:10:00 THANK YOU.
03:10:00 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:10:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LIKE TO MOVE 89 THROUGH 95.
03:10:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
03:10:07 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:10:08 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:10:09 ANY OPPOSED?
03:10:11 THANK YOU.
03:10:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO SETTLE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON 96
03:10:14 THROUGH 99.
03:10:15 >>THE CLERK: THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A DIFFERENT DATE IN
03:10:23 NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER.
03:10:25 SO THE NEXT DATE IN NOVEMBER IS NOVEMBER 3rd.
03:10:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO I WOULD LIKE TO SET 96 THROUGH 99
03:10:32 FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT ITEM 99 WILL BE FOR NOVEMBER
03:10:36 3rd AT 1:30 P.M.
03:10:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
03:10:42 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:10:44 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:10:45 THANK YOU.
03:11:01 WE GO TO 96 NOW, RIGHT? I'M SORRY, 100.
03:11:05 >>BILL CARLSON: 9:30 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
03:11:07 [ LAUGHTER ]
03:11:11 >> MOTION TO OPEN MAY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND BY
03:11:14 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:11:14 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:11:15 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
03:11:20 ALL RIGHT.
03:11:20 THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
03:11:22 ANYBODY GOING TO BE GIVING ANY TYPE -- I WOULD RATHER GET IT
03:11:25 OVER WITH THAT WAY.
03:11:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN DO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE
03:11:30 QUASI-JUDICIAL.
03:11:31 105 YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SWORN IN.
03:11:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD STILL RATHER GET IT OVER BECAUSE OF
03:11:37 COURSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE AND MORE AND MORE PEOPLE
03:11:39 COMING IN.
03:11:40 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP DOING IT AND DOING IT.
03:11:43 AGENDA ITEM 100, E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
03:11:47 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
03:11:58 THIS IS THE SECOND READING ON AN ORDINANCE TO CONTRACT THE
03:12:02 BOUNDARIES OF THE K-BAR RANCH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
03:12:05 DISTRICT.
03:12:08 IT WOULD REDUCE THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE DISTRICT BY 102
03:12:12 ACRES FOR REMAINING TOTAL OF 757 ACRES THAT WOULD COMPLY
03:12:17 WITH THE DISTRICT AND -- COMPRISE THE DISTRICT AND THE ACRES
03:12:20 THAT COUNCIL MAY RECALL WILL BE PICKED UP BY TO BE CREATED
03:12:24 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BY ANOTHER DEVELOPER.
03:12:28 HE'S IN THE AUDIENCE AND REPRESENTS THE PETITIONER ON THIS
03:12:30 REQUEST IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
03:12:31 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
03:12:44 DAVID JACKSON, I REPRESENT THE K-BAR RANCH 2 COMMUNITY
03:12:49 DISTRICT, AND JOHNSON-VELEZ COVERED EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE
03:12:53 DOING HERE.
03:12:53 AGAIN THE KEY THING IS THIS CAN'T HAVE LAND IN TWO CDBs AT
03:13:00 THE SAME TIME SO NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM K-BAR RANCH TO CDB
03:13:04 THROUGH ORDINANCE AND THEN IT COULD CAN BE ESTABLISHED IN
03:13:06 THE NEW KB 3 CBD WHICH SHOULD BE COMING BEFORE YOU BEFORE
03:13:12 TOO LONG.
03:13:13 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
03:13:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OF PETITIONER?
03:13:18 SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE
03:13:22 TO SPEAK TO THIS?
03:13:28 I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ONLINE.
03:13:31 I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED
03:13:34 BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:13:36 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:13:42 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:13:42 >>LYNN HURTAK: ITEM NUMBER 100, FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
03:13:47 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
03:13:51 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AUTHORIZING THE
03:13:54 BOUNDARY AMENDMENT FOR THE K-BAR RANCH 2 COMMUNITY
03:13:58 DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PROVIDING FOR THE AMENDMENT OF THE
03:14:00 BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT BY REMOVING PARCELS OF LAND THAT
03:14:03 WILL NOT BE SERVED BY THE DISTRICT AFTER THE CREATION OF THE
03:14:06 K-BAR RANCH 3 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WHICH WILL
03:14:09 RESULT IN A NET REDUCTION OF 102.778 ACRES MOL FOR A TOTAL
03:14:16 OF 757.799 ACRES COMPRISING THE DISTRICT AND SITUATED
03:14:22 ENTIRELY WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
03:14:25 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA, SAID DISTRICT BEING GENERALLY
03:14:28 LOCATED NORTH OF CROSS CREEK BOULEVARD, WEST ARE MORRIS
03:14:31 BRIDGE ROAD, EAST OF BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD AND SOUTH OF
03:14:34 THE PASCO/HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY LINE, THE AMENDED BOUNDARY
03:14:38 BEING MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF
03:14:41 PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 190 FLORIDA STATUTES PROVIDING FOR
03:14:44 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:14:46 >> SECOND.
03:14:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
03:14:51 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:14:53 PLEASE PLACE YOUR VOTES.
03:14:56 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
03:15:26 ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:15:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS THE FIRST TIME.
03:15:39 MR. CHAIRMAN, CUSTOMARILY ON SECOND READING WITH THESE
03:15:44 MACHINES IT'S VOTE AND RECORD.
03:15:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: VOTE AND RECORD.
03:15:49 THANK YOU.
03:15:52 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 101.
03:15:54 FILE TA/CPA 21-27.
03:16:07 [NO ENCODER]
03:16:30 [NO ENCODER]
03:16:30 >> ... BUT THIS IS SECOND READING AND I AM HERE IF THERE
03:16:36 ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
03:16:41 >> ANY QUESTIONS?
03:16:42 ANY COMMENTS?
03:16:43 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU TO YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO
03:16:45 WORKED TO TAKE THAT OUT.
03:16:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE?
03:16:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
03:16:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
03:16:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:16:58 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:16:59 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:17:02 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:17:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE TA/CPA 21-27 FOR SECOND READING AND
03:17:10 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
03:17:14 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INFRASTRUCTURE AND POTABLE WATER ELEMENTS
03:17:17 BY UPDATING THE 10 YEAR WATER SUPPLY FACILITIES WORK PLAN
03:17:20 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2032 PROVIDING FOR
03:17:24 REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR
03:17:27 SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:17:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:17:31 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:17:33 PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
03:17:35 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
03:18:01 ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:18:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:18:04 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 102, FILE TA/CPA 21-26.
03:18:11 >> DANNY COLLINS, STAFF, A MAP AMENDMENT FOR THE SITE
03:18:44 LOCATED AT 8116 NORTH RIVER SHORE DRIVE.
03:18:47 THE REQUEST WOULD RECOGNIZE THE ENTIRE SITE UNDER THE
03:18:50 RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
03:18:53 COUNCIL APPROVED THE ORDINANCE TO RECOGNIZE THE SITE UNDER
03:18:56 THE RESIDENTIAL 10 AT YOUR HEARING ON JUNE 23rd.
03:18:59 THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
03:19:01 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
03:19:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS?
03:19:05 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
03:19:11 AS MR. COLLINS MENTIONED, I DID PRESENT AT THE FIRST READING
03:19:14 ON THIS ORDINANCE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE WHICH COUNCIL READ
03:19:18 BY TITLE AT THAT TIME.
03:19:19 IT DOES REFLECT INSTEAD OF THE R-20 CATEGORY, IT'S GOING TO
03:19:24 PROVIDE, DID REFLECT THE R-10 CATEGORY WHICH IS THE LOWER
03:19:28 CATEGORY.
03:19:29 SO MR. SHELBY JUST PASSED OUT THE SUBSTITUTE, SO I WOULD ASK
03:19:33 YOU, TO READ FROM WHAT WAS JUST DISTRIBUTED.
03:19:37 THANK YOU.
03:19:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:19:41 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:19:45 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:19:48 I'M SORRY.
03:19:49 PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:19:49 IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?
03:19:56 NO, THERE'S NOBODY ONLINE.
03:19:58 MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:20:00 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:20:02 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
03:20:04 ANY OPPOSED?
03:20:05 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU READ THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE?
03:20:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, MR. CHAIR.
03:20:11 [OFF MICROPHONE] FILE TA/CPA 21-26, SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE
03:20:18 AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE
03:20:21 LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY
03:20:24 LOCATED AT 8116 NORTH RIVER SHORE DRIVE FROM PUBLIC
03:20:29 SEMI-PUBLIC P/SP AND RESIDENTIAL 35 R-35 TO RESIDENTIAL 10,
03:20:42 R-10, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
03:20:45 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:20:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:20:49 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:20:52 PLEASE VOTE AND RECORD.
03:20:53 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
03:21:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
03:21:07 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 103.
03:21:09 FILE TA/CPA 22-01.
03:21:14 >>DANNY COLLINS: PLANNING
03:21:19 DANNY COLLINS WITH PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, FUTURE LAND
03:21:21 USE FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2500 WEST AZEELE STREET.
03:21:26 THE REQUEST IS FUTURE LAND USE FROM RESIDENTIAL 20 TO BE
03:21:29 COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
03:21:31 CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THIS REQUEST AT YOUR HEARING ON JUNE
03:21:34 23rd.
03:21:34 THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
03:21:36 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
03:21:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:21:41 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
03:21:45 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
03:21:53 MIRANDA.
03:21:54 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
03:21:57 ANY OPPOSED?
03:22:09 OKAY.
03:22:09 I AM GOING TO MR. CARLSON.
03:22:10 >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S 103, RIGHT?
03:22:14 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOVE FILE TA/CPA 22-01 ORDINANCE
03:22:20 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
03:22:22 ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
03:22:24 PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE
03:22:28 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2500 WEST AZEELE STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL
03:22:31 20 R-20 TO MIXED USE 35 CMU-35 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
03:22:37 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING
03:22:39 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:22:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND BY
03:22:44 COUNCIL MIRANDA.
03:22:45 PLEASE PLACE YOUR VOTE AND RECORD.
03:22:47 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
03:22:54 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:22:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:22:57 AGENDA ITEM 104.
03:22:59 FILE TA/CPA 22-02.
03:23:03 >> DANNY COLLINS WITH PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
03:23:07 THIS IS SECOND READING FOR TA/CPA 22-02, A MAP AMENDMENT TO
03:23:12 CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE ON THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 1242
03:23:16 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE AND 629 AND 635 NORTH 12th STREET FROM
03:23:21 HEAVY INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION TO THE REGIONAL
03:23:25 MIXED USE 100.
03:23:26 CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THIS REQUEST AT YOUR HEARING ON JUNE
03:23:29 23rd.
03:23:30 THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
03:23:31 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
03:23:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANT ONLINE IF
03:23:37 THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
03:23:42 ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT?
03:23:50 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECONDED BY
03:23:53 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:23:53 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:23:55 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:23:55 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
03:23:59 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
03:24:01 AFTERNOON ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
03:24:03 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE
03:24:06 MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1242 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE AND
03:24:10 629 AND 635 NORTH 12TH STREET FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO
03:24:13 REGIONAL MIXED USE 100 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
03:24:17 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING
03:24:19 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:24:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA SECONDED BY
03:24:24 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:24:25 PLEASE PLACE YOUR VOTE AND RECORD.
03:24:28 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
03:24:35 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:24:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:24:43 WE HAVE OPENED ALL THE REST OF THE HEARINGS?
03:24:46 YES.
03:24:47 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:24:48 COUNCIL CARLSON.
03:24:48 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD,
03:24:53 BY ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AND ALSO CITY COUNCIL
03:24:56 ATTORNEY, AS YOU CAN SEE, ITEMS NUMBER 105 THROUGH 109, I
03:25:00 WAS ABSENT, AND I NEED TO STATE ON THE RECORD THAT I
03:25:05 REVIEWED THE DOCUMENTS RELATING TO EACH OF THESE, AND I ALSO
03:25:08 WATCHED THE VIDEOS, AND I LISTENED TO THE TESTIMONY AND
03:25:12 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, AND THEREFORE ON EACH OF
03:25:14 THESE I AM PREPARED TO VOTE.
03:25:15 THANK YOU.
03:25:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:25:17 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:25:22 ONE THAT I WAS ABSENT ON AS WELL, SAME THING APPLIES TO ME.
03:25:25 THANK YOU.
03:25:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:25:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. IF THERE ARE ANY
03:25:35 EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS PLEASE DO DISCLOSE THEM PRIOR TO THE
03:25:38 HEARING COMMENCING, AND I WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL RECEIVE AND
03:25:41 FILE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED AND MADE
03:25:44 PART OF THE RECORD.
03:25:51 YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE WHAT'S AVAILABLE
03:25:54 FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION.
03:25:56 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAD A PHONE CALL THAT I WAS GOING TO
03:25:59 DISCLOSE OF NO RELEVANCY BUT I CAN DO IT AT THE TIME OF THE
03:26:02 HEARING.
03:26:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN
03:26:12 CARLSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:26:15 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:26:16 ANY OPPOSED?
03:26:18 THANK YOU.
03:26:19 AT THIS TIME, ANYONE.
03:26:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT I HAD OF MRS.
03:26:39 JOHNSON-VELEZ AS TO THE LENGTH OF THE TITLE.
03:26:44 IS THAT THE WAY IT APPEARS ON THE ORDINANCE?
03:26:45 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: [OFF MICROPHONE] I. OKAY.
03:26:52 NORMALLY, SO WHERE IT SAYS PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE,
03:26:55 COUNCIL, I JUST WANT YOU TO BE CLEAR ON THAT, SO IT'S NOT
03:26:58 SET UP BY DIFFERENT COLOR.
03:27:00 AND IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST.
03:27:01 I'M SORRY, I JUST NOTICED THAT NOW BUT THAT'S WHERE YOU
03:27:04 DON'T HAVE TO READ THE ENTIRE PARAGRAPH.
03:27:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
03:27:10 NO ONE TELL COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK THERE.
03:27:13 WE'LL MAKE HER READ IT.
03:27:15 A LITTLE JOKE.
03:27:18 ALL RIGHT.
03:27:19 AT THIS POINT, ANYONE WHO IS GOING TO BE GIVING ANY KIND OF
03:27:23 TESTIMONY TO ANY OF THESE AGENDA ITEMS, PLEASE STAND TO BE
03:27:29 SWORN IN.
03:27:30 >>THE CLERK: STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
03:27:38 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT
03:27:41 TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
03:27:45 >> I DO.
03:27:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE GOING TO FIRST GO TO AGENDA ITEM
03:27:51 105, FILE REZ 20-56.
03:27:54 >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:28:00 THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING.
03:28:04 THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5301 WEST TYSON AVENUE.
03:28:08 CHANGES ARE REQUIRED TO BE MADE TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN
03:28:11 FIRST AND SECOND READING.
03:28:13 THOSE MODIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE SITE PLAN, AND
03:28:16 THAT SITE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
03:28:20 AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
03:28:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
03:28:28 NONE.
03:28:28 I SEE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE ONLINE RIGHT NOW.
03:28:30 YOU ALL NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
03:28:37 >> I DO.
03:28:38 >> WE JUST DID.
03:28:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:28:43 ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
03:28:46 MS. GLEN, MR. RYAN?
03:28:48 >> ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
03:28:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
03:28:54 >> NO, SIR.
03:28:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
03:28:57 I'M SORRY?
03:29:03 ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS?
03:29:05 >> ANNE POLLACK REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
03:29:09 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR ASSISTANCE AS WE MOVE THROUGH
03:29:12 THE PROCESS ON THIS ONE.
03:29:14 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
03:29:16 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
03:29:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS?
03:29:30 FINISHED?
03:29:31 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT QUO LIKE TO COMMENT TO THIS?
03:29:34 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE MS. STEPHANIE POYNOR ON LINE.
03:29:45 MS. POYNOR?
03:29:47 >> I'M WORKING ON IT.
03:30:01 ONE SECOND, PLEASE.
03:30:20 CAN YOU SEE ME NOW?
03:30:22 >> NO, MA'AM.
03:31:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. POYNOR, ARE YOU STILL THERE?
03:31:13 >> YES, I'M SORRY I'M SORRY.
03:31:15 I APOLOGIZE.
03:31:17 >>BILL CARLSON: WE ARE SEEING A BOX WITH YOUR NAME ON IT.
03:31:23 JUST GUESSING IT'S YOUR CAMERA IS NOT TURNED ON OR NOT
03:31:27 FACING THE RIGHT WAY.
03:31:29 >> IT'S ON.
03:31:30 IT'S JUST FICKLE.
03:31:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY, BUT
03:32:12 UNFORTUNATELY --
03:32:13 >> IT'S ALL GOOD.
03:32:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:32:20 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:32:22 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:32:23 THANK YOU.
03:32:28 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:32:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:32:31 I HAVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
03:32:34 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE ADOPTED PURSUANT TO SECTION 70-51
03:32:40 FLORIDA STATUTES ACCEPTING A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE REPORT AND
03:32:43 RECOMMENDATION AND REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY
03:32:45 OF 35301 QUEST TYSON AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
03:32:48 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 FROM ZONING
03:32:50 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IH INDUSTRIAL HEAVY TO PD PLANNED
03:32:54 DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, RETAIL SALES,
03:32:57 SPECIALTY GOODS, CONVENIENCE GOODS, SHOPPER'S GOODS AND
03:33:01 MARINA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:33:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:33:05 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:33:07 PLEASE PLACE YOUR VOTE AND RECORD.
03:33:10 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
03:33:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ALREADY CLOSED.
03:33:31 THANK YOU.
03:33:33 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 106.
03:33:37 FILE REZ 22-10.
03:33:39 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:33:44 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 106, CASE REZ 22-10 IS PRESENTED FOR
03:33:50 SECOND READING, AND LOCATION 2801 NORTH TAMPA STREET,
03:33:57 PROPOSED REZONING FROM RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO CN
03:34:02 COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:34:04 HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
03:34:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
03:34:08 THANK YOU.
03:34:22 IS PETITIONER HERE?
03:34:29 THERE'S NOTHING FOR PETITIONER ONLINE.
03:34:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
03:34:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
03:34:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE'LL GET PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:34:38 ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
03:34:41 106 FILE REZ 22-10?
03:34:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
03:34:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
03:34:49 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:34:51 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
03:34:54 COUNCIL HURTAK.
03:34:55 >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE REZ 22-10, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR
03:34:59 SECOND READING AN ADOPTION, IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2801
03:35:03 NORTH TAMPA STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
03:35:05 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
03:35:09 CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO CN
03:35:13 COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:35:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
03:35:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
03:35:21 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:35:23 PLEASE VOTE AND RECORD.
03:35:25 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
03:35:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 107.
03:35:40 REZ 22-36.
03:35:41 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:35:45 THIS IS PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT THE
03:35:48 LOCATION 3501 WEST CHEROKEE AVENUE, PROPOSED REZONING FROM
03:35:53 RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
03:35:57 SINGLE-FAMILY.
03:35:58 HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
03:36:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:36:02 >>STEVE MICHELINI: REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
03:36:11 I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
03:36:13 YOU MAY RECALL THAT THIS INVOLVED REORIENTATION OF TWO LOTS,
03:36:18 THAT THEY COULD BE BUILT BY RIGHT IN ONE DIRECTION AND ARE
03:36:20 BEING REORIENTED SO THEY HAVE TO BE REZONED.
03:36:24 I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
03:36:26 >> COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
03:36:30 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO COMMENT TO THIS?
03:36:35 WE HAVE NO ONE ONLINE.
03:36:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
03:36:38 >> SECOND.
03:36:38 >>BILL CARLSON: I LISTENED TO THE VIDEO OF THIS AND I
03:36:44 LISTENED TO THE NEIGHBOR WHO SPOKE ABOUT IT AND HE FELT THAT
03:36:47 WAS NOT CONSISTENT WITH HIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:36:49 BUT LOOKING AT THE MAP AND LOOKING AT THE PROXIMITY OF
03:36:52 MULTIFAMILY AND LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT MOST NEIGHBORHOOD
03:36:56 HAVE THIS KIND OF CONFIGURATION SOMEWHERE, I AM INCLINED TO
03:36:59 SUPPORT THIS.
03:37:00 IF IT WAS CONVERTING AN ENTIRE BLOCK TO HIGHER DENSITY, IT
03:37:05 MIGHT BE DIFFERENT, BUT IT APPEARS THAT THE SMALL CHANGE TO
03:37:10 THIS PARCEL IS NOT SIGNIFICANTLY GOING TO CHANGE THE
03:37:14 CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:37:15 SO I WOULD SUPPORT IT.
03:37:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
03:37:21 NO ONE IN THE PUBLIC SPEAKING TO THIS.
03:37:23 MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:37:25 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:37:27 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
03:37:28 IS THERE ANY -- OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:37:33 WHO DO WE HAVE HERE?
03:37:34 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:37:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: REZ 22-36.
03:37:37 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
03:37:40 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
03:37:42 VICINITY OF 3501 WEST CHEROKEE AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
03:37:45 FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
03:37:48 ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 630 RESIDENTIAL
03:37:50 SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING
03:37:53 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:37:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
03:37:55 >> MOTION.
03:37:56 >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:37:59 PLEASE VOTE AND VOTE AND RECORD.
03:38:01 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
03:38:08 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
03:38:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
03:38:22 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 105.
03:38:24 FILE REZ-22-66.
03:38:32 I. 108.
03:38:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY.
03:38:35 108.
03:38:35 FILE REZ 22-59.
03:38:37 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:38:42 THIS IS THE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT A LOCATION
03:38:44 1509, 1511 AND 1529 WEST NORTH A STREET.
03:38:51 PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND
03:38:54 IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO CN COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND IG
03:38:59 INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.
03:39:00 HEAR FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
03:39:03 >> COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
03:39:05 THANK YOU.
03:39:06 PETITIONER?
03:39:13 >> ALEX SCHULER. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF APPLICANT.
03:39:15 FIRST READING.
03:39:17 AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
03:39:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
03:39:21 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR
03:39:24 COMMENT?
03:39:27 SEEING NONE.
03:39:32 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:39:34 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:39:35 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:39:36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:39:37 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:39:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
03:39:49 GENERAL VICINITY OF 1509, 1511, 1529 WEST NORTH A STREET IN
03:39:54 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
03:39:57 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS RS-50
03:40:00 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO CN
03:40:05 COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL PROVIDING
03:40:07 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:40:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
03:40:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:40:12 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:40:14 PLEASE VOTE AND RECORD.
03:40:15 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
03:40:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 109.
03:40:31 REZ 22-70.
03:40:32 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:40:35 THIS IS PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT A
03:40:37 LOCATION 1809 NORTH TAMPANIA AVENUE, PROPOSED REZONING FROM
03:40:42 RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MILLION TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
03:40:48 HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
03:40:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
03:40:53 THANK YOU.
03:40:53 PETITIONER?
03:40:54 >>THE CLERK: SHE WAS ON EARLIER THIS MORNING BUT HE IS NOT
03:41:03 LOGGED ON AT THIS TIME.
03:41:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES
03:41:06 TO MAKE A COMMENT?
03:41:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
03:41:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
03:41:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED
03:41:12 BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:41:14 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:41:17 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
03:41:17 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 109, CORRECT?
03:41:22 109.
03:41:24 FILE REZ 22-70, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
03:41:28 AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
03:41:31 VICINITY OF 1809 NORTH TAMPAN YEAH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
03:41:36 TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
03:41:38 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL
03:41:42 MULTIFAMILY TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
03:41:44 DATE.
03:41:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED BY
03:41:48 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:41:48 PLEASE VOTE AND RECORD.
03:41:56 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
03:41:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
03:42:04 AGENDA ITEM -- REZ 21-133.
03:42:09 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:42:12 THIS IS PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, NOW THIS
03:42:15 IS AT THE GENERAL VICINITY KNOWN AS MIDTOWN TAMPA, NORTH
03:42:21 HYPES TO THE EAST, YOU HAVE WEST CYPRESS TO THE SOUTH, TO
03:42:25 THE WEST SIDE YOU HAVE NORTH DALE MABRY AND TO THE NORTH YOU
03:42:27 HAVE 275.
03:42:30 THIS PROPOSED REZONING FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND CI
03:42:34 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL
03:42:38 MULTIFAMILY, AND ALL CI USES.
03:42:41 SITE PLANS WERE TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
03:42:43 HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
03:42:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
03:42:48 THANK YOU.
03:42:48 >> WE TURNED IN SITE PLANS TO THE CITY AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR
03:43:04 ANY QUESTIONS AND REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
03:43:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS?
03:43:22 IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
03:43:25 COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
03:43:26 SEEING NONE, MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED
03:43:31 BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:43:32 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:43:34 ANY OPPOSED?
03:43:35 THANK YOU.
03:43:36 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:43:37 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
03:43:39 I MOVE FILE NUMBER REZ 21-133 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
03:43:44 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
03:43:47 IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3615 AND 3711 WEST CYPRESS
03:43:51 STREET, 1150, 1152 AND 1160 ASSEMBLY DRIVE, 3615 BROMLEY
03:43:56 GRAND AVENUE, 3645, 3650, 3657, 3701, 3720 AND 3740 MIDTOWN
03:44:05 DRIVE, 1011, 1130, 3615 AND 3730-GRAM MERCY LANE AND FOLIO
03:44:13 NUMBERS 111,791.01 OO, 111,027.044, 111,027.0016,
03:44:24 111,027.0042, 111,027.0076, 111,027.0092 AND 111,027.0096 IN
03:44:40 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
03:44:42 IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED
03:44:46 DEVELOPMENT AND CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PD PLANNED
03:44:48 DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL AND ALL CI USES PROVIDING AN
03:44:51 EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:44:52 >> EASY FOR YOU TO SAY.
03:44:55 MOTION BY VIERA, SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
03:44:58 PLEASE VOTE AND RECORD.
03:45:03 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
03:45:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:45:07 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 111.
03:45:15 FILE NUMBER 111.
03:45:16 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: THIS IS SECOND READING.
03:45:23 DISCLAFANI TO CLEAR UP A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT'S COME TO
03:45:26 STAFF'S ATTENTION THAT THE STAFF REPORT WAS NOT AVAILABLE ON
03:45:28 SIRE, TO REVIEW THE DATA AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY.
03:45:33 FOR FIRST READING.
03:45:34 UPON LOOKING AT A STAFF REPORT, THE OFFICE IS INCOMPLETE AND
03:45:38 WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE CORRECT INFORMATION FOR THE
03:45:41 RECORD AND ENSURE EVERYONE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE REVIEW
03:45:44 THE INFORMATION.
03:45:45 STAFF REQUESTS THAT THIS MOVE TO FIRST READING ON 8-4 WITH
03:45:49 THIS BEING PLACED FIRST ON THE AGENDA.
03:45:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES,
03:45:56 IF I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID, IN THE REPORT -- PUT IT BACK TO
03:46:03 FIRST READING.
03:46:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD IT BE ON FIRST READING TODAY?
03:46:11 >> 8-4.
03:46:12 AUGUST 4.
03:46:14 I. AUGUST 4?
03:46:16 SO YOU ARE REQUESTING -- IT WOULD HAVE TO BE RENOTICED.
03:46:21 >>CATE WELLS: LEGAL DEPARTMENT, FOR THE RECORD, IT WOULD
03:46:26 NOT HAVE TO BE RENOTICED.
03:46:29 IT WOULD BE CONTINUED TO A DATE CERTAIN.
03:46:31 IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IT OCCURRED.
03:46:35 I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT IS IN THE AUDIENCE AND HAS SOME
03:46:40 CONCERNS OVER THIS ITEM BEING MOVED OUT FURTHER AND
03:46:43 RESCHEDULED FOR FIRST READING, BUT WHEN I SPOKE WITH STAFF
03:46:48 YESTERDAY, OUR PRIMARY CONCERN WAS ENSURING THAT ANY
03:46:52 DECISION OF THIS CITY COUNCIL IS LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE AND
03:46:56 BASED ON AN ACCURATE RECORD, AND WE DON'T FEEL THAT THAT
03:46:59 RECORD HAS BEEN CREATED AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO SUPPORT THE
03:47:02 ACTION THAT COUNCIL TOOK WHEN THIS WAS CONSIDERED ON JUNE
03:47:06 9th.
03:47:06 SO THAT IS THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THIS OUT TO
03:47:10 AUGUST 4th AND PLACE IT BACK ON FIRST READING.
03:47:13 BUT I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
03:47:16 WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT.
03:47:18 >> BEFORE WE GO TO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO
03:47:27 HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT
03:47:29 IS -- WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO SAY TO THIS.
03:47:31 >> SO THIS MATTER WAS JUST BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THIS
03:47:43 MORNING AT 8:25, THAT THERE WAS SOME FORM OF OVERSIGHT OR
03:47:53 DISCREPANCY THAT OCCURRED WITH STAFF.
03:47:57 I THINK THAT IN MY OPINION THAT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR
03:48:00 STAFF TO GIVE TO YOU THE NATURE OF THAT DISCREPANCY SO THAT
03:48:07 YOU CAN AT LEAST BE EXPOSED TO WHAT IT IS.
03:48:13 IN MY OPINION.
03:48:14 I AM NOT SURE TO WHAT EXTENT YOU WILL GIVE A DEFERENCE TO
03:48:18 IT, THAT IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO THE OUTCOME AS TO WHAT'S
03:48:23 ALREADY BEEN HEARD.
03:48:25 BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO BE STATED NOW AS OPPOSED TO
03:48:32 JUST GOING BACK TO SQUARE ONE, WHEN THIS IS NOT A SQUARE ONE
03:48:35 ISSUE, ALTHOUGH THE WAY IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME, I THINK IT
03:48:39 IS CERTAINLY A RELEVANT ISSUE THAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO YOU
03:48:43 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
03:48:44 SO I WOULD ASK THAT ALLOW STAFF TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE
03:48:49 DETAIL ABOUT WHAT IT IS, AND THEN PERHAPS WE CAN MOVE
03:48:54 FORWARD FROM THERE.
03:48:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, WHAT IS YOUR
03:48:59 FEELINGS ABOUT GOING BACK TO FIRST READING AND POSTPONING IT
03:49:03 TILL AUGUST 4?
03:49:05 >> WELL, I DON'T WANT TO.
03:49:06 WE STARTED THIS PROCESS IN DECEMBER, AND OF COURSE FOR
03:49:09 WHATEVER REASONS IT'S TAKEN THIS LONG, AND AS THEY HAVE
03:49:15 ACKNOWLEDGED, IT'S NOT ON ANY PART OF ANYTHING THAT THE
03:49:18 APPLICANT HAS DONE OR THE PROPERTY OWNER OR ANYTHING, IT'S
03:49:25 SOME KIND OF A STAFF OVERSIGHT.
03:49:27 SO MY FEELING IS THAT PERHAPS IT CAN BE HEARD THIS EVENING
03:49:34 AS TO WHAT THE NATURE OF THAT IS SO THAT IT CAN BE MORE
03:49:39 EXPOSED TO THE POINT OF WHAT SHOULD BE DONE.
03:49:41 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT SETTLED BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE HAVE
03:49:45 MADE ALL OF THE POINTS.
03:49:47 I DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT IT DRAMATICALLY CHANGES, BUT I
03:49:52 CAN'T SPEAK FOR YOU, OBVIOUSLY.
03:49:54 BUT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
03:49:57 PRESENTED, MY FEELING IS THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE FORWARD,
03:50:06 AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD BE THE DOWN-SIDE TO THAT
03:50:10 BEING HEARD THIS EVENING.
03:50:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WANTED TO HEAR FROM YOU FIRST.
03:50:15 MR. SHELBY?
03:50:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THERE'S ALSO OTHER PEOPLE THAT
03:50:20 MIGHT BE PRESENT TO SPEAK TO THIS.
03:50:22 >> I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:50:25 DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY WE GO.
03:50:31 AS FAR AS CONTINUANCE GOES, IF THERE IS CONTINUANCE.
03:50:33 I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:50:39 >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF OR LEGAL OR
03:50:41 ANYBODY.
03:50:42 WE HAD THIS GENTLEMAN UP HERE EARLIER THIS MORNING TELLING
03:50:44 US THAT HIS FATHER IS IN THE HOSPITAL.
03:50:46 WE HEARD FROM OTHER PEOPLE.
03:50:48 IS THERE A REASON WE DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THIS EARLIER TODAY SO
03:50:51 WE COULD HAVE MADE THIS DETERMINATION AND NOT MAKE THESE
03:50:54 PEOPLE WAIT, IF WE KNEW ABOUT IT YESTERDAY?
03:50:58 JUST CURIOUS.
03:50:58 >> UNDERSTOOD.
03:51:03 I KNOW 111 ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
03:51:09 I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE I WILL USE IN THE FAMILY.
03:51:12 >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MY QUESTION, THOUGH, WHY WE COULDN'T, IN
03:51:18 WE KNEW SOMETHING, AT THE BEGINNING, WE HAVE THE TIME TO GO
03:51:23 OVER THE AGENDA AND TAKE A LOOK AT THINGS.
03:51:25 IS THERE A REASON THIS WASN'T BROUGHT UP TO US THEN, KNOWING
03:51:29 THAT WE HAD 120 ITEMS AND WE WERE GOING TO MAKE QUITE A FEW
03:51:34 PEOPLE WAIT TODAY TILL NOW?
03:51:36 >>LACHONE DOCK: ABSOLUTELY, I UNDERSTAND.
03:51:41 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. I WANTED TO EXPLAIN WE WANTED AN
03:51:44 OPPORTUNITY, WHEN WE REALIZED THAT IT WAS THE DATA THAT WAS
03:51:48 PROVIDED IN THE ANALYSIS, AND WHAT WE WANTED AN OPPORTUNITY
03:51:52 TO DO WAS TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO THE APPLICANT.
03:51:56 IT WAS BROUGHT TO US FROM SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY.
03:52:00 AND THEN WE MET.
03:52:01 WE ALSO WANTED, WE WANTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE
03:52:05 APPLICANT.
03:52:05 WE DIDN'T WANT TO SAY IT WAS CONTINUED TO THAT DATE WITHOUT
03:52:13 CONFIRMING FIRST.
03:52:14 UNFORTUNATELY IT IS SHORT NOTICE.
03:52:16 WE CERTAINLY APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
03:52:18 BUT WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH HIM UNTIL THIS
03:52:21 MORNING.
03:52:21 AND WE WERE ALREADY HERE AT THAT POINT AND COUNCIL STARTED.
03:52:26 BUT IT IS THE ANALYSIS.
03:52:28 THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE DATA.
03:52:31 WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO PROVIDE IT TO THE APPLICANT, OR
03:52:35 TO HAVE IT FOR THE VIEWING OF THE PUBLIC.
03:52:37 SO THAT'S WHY WE WANTED THAT CHANCE FOR THEM TO REVIEW, TO
03:52:42 GIVE A REVISED ANALYSIS TODAY ON THE SPOT ON SECOND READING.
03:52:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES?
03:52:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, TIME IS MONEY.
03:52:54 AND WHAT I AM MOST UPSET ABOUT IS THAT THESE KIND FOLKS HAVE
03:52:58 BEEN HERE ALL MORNING.
03:52:59 THIS GENTLEMAN HAS BEEN HERE ALL MORNING, CAME UP WHEN HE
03:53:03 HEARD THERE WAS A CONTROVERSY, EXPLAINED THE SITUATION.
03:53:05 AT THAT TIME NOBODY FROM STAFF HAD COME AND TOLD THIS
03:53:08 COUNCIL THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED SO HE CAN GO HOME,
03:53:11 OXYCONTIN WITH THE DAY TO CARE FOR HIS FATHER?
03:53:14 I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
03:53:16 I HAVE A HARD TIME.
03:53:19 I MEAN, WE ARE ALL TIRED.
03:53:20 IT'S LATE IN THE DATE.
03:53:23 I KNOW HE'S GOT TO BE FRUSTRATED THAT NOBODY HAD THE COURAGE
03:53:27 TO SAY, MISTAKES HAPPEN, OKAY, FINE, BUT WE CAN'T LET THIS
03:53:31 HAPPEN AGAIN.
03:53:33 IF THERE WAS A MISTAKE MADE, LET'S OWN UP TO IT AND MOVE ON,
03:53:37 NO MATTER WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
03:53:39 BUT IF THE ANALYSIS IS GOING TO CHANGE, MOVE IN THAT
03:53:45 DIRECTION, THAT THIS CAN'T BE HELD TODAY?
03:53:49 >>LACHONE DOCK: I THINK MORE A CASE OF ALLOWING THE
03:53:53 APPLICANT THE TIME TO HAVE THAT REVISED ANALYSIS IN THEIR
03:53:56 HAND, AND I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE FAIR TO THE APPLICANT TO
03:53:59 HAVE THAT REVISED ANALYSIS JUST PRESENTED ON THE SPOT.
03:54:02 I CERTAINLY AGREE, WE SHOULD HAVE PRESENTED THE AGENDA THIS
03:54:10 MORNING TO HAVE THE TO AVOID HAVING THE PUBLIC WAITING AND
03:54:14 MOST OF ALL THE APPLICANT.
03:54:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL SEE WHAT MR. CHAIRMAN -- THIS HAS
03:54:20 COME TO LIGHT.
03:54:21 BUT AGAIN, WE APOLOGIZE TO THE FOLKS THAT WERE WAITING ALL
03:54:24 DAY AND TO YOU, SIR.
03:54:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:54:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:54:28 FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S AUGUST 4th IN THE EVENING, IT
03:54:31 WOULD BE.
03:54:32 JUST MAKING SURE BECAUSE I HAVE A CONFLICT IN THE MORNING.
03:54:35 JUST MAKING SURE.
03:54:36 I MEAN, I AM OBVIOUSLY INCLINED TO GO WITH WHATEVER LEGAL
03:54:40 TELLS US, WE HAVE TO COVER OURSELVES ON ISSUES LIKE THIS
03:54:43 ESPECIALLY SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, VERY CONTESTED. I DO WANT
03:54:46 TO DISCLOSE OUT OF ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION I DID RECEIVE A CALL
03:54:50 ON THIS BY A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF BILL TOWNSEND, A VERY
03:54:53 NICE GENTLEMAN THAT I HAVE KNOWN FOR A WHILE.
03:54:55 WE DID NOT HAVE ANY SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION AND I SAID IF YOU
03:54:59 HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT PLEASE E-MAIL ME, WHICH HE
03:55:03 DID, BUT I DO DISCLOSE THAT OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.
03:55:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
03:55:09 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
03:55:10 >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES, AND WANT TO
03:55:13 APOLOGIZE THAT YOU HAD TO WAIT TODAY.
03:55:14 I WISH WE WOULD HAVE ADDRESSED THIS EARLIER.
03:55:17 I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS AND HOW MUCH YOU ALL SACRIFICE.
03:55:20 SECOND, WITHOUT PROPER DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION, I DON'T
03:55:23 SEE HOW WE CAN GO FORWARD.
03:55:25 WE HAVE TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY IN THE INFORMATION.
03:55:29 BUT LET ME ASK A TECHNICAL QUESTION.
03:55:31 YESTERDAY MORNING, AT LEAST, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE NIGHT
03:55:34 BEFORE YESTERDAY MORNING, SIRE DIDN'T HAVE ANY DOCUMENTS FOR
03:55:38 SEVERAL HOURS.
03:55:39 IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN THAT PROBLEM?
03:55:42 THIS IS JUST THIS PARTICULAR FILE DID NOT HAVE A DOCUMENT
03:55:45 ATTACHED?
03:55:45 IT'S NOT THE PROBLEM THAT HAPPENED ACROSS SIRE YESTERDAY
03:55:48 MORNING?
03:55:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE IT INVOLVED THE ANALYSIS, AND
03:55:54 THE DATA.
03:55:55 IS THAT CORRECT?
03:55:55 >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:55:58 I CAN'T SAY IF IT IS -- IF THIS WAS PART OF THAT.
03:56:05 I DO KNOW AT SOME POINT IT WASN'T AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC
03:56:09 VIEWING IN SIRE, BUT --
03:56:12 >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
03:56:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SIR?
03:56:18 AGAIN I AM GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU.
03:56:21 YOU HAVE HEARD THE REASONING.
03:56:23 ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH CONTINUING THIS UNTIL AUGUST
03:56:27 4th?
03:56:28 >> WELL, I WON'T SPEAK TO THE STATE OF COMFORT BUT I WILL
03:56:34 SAY THAT IT IS REASONABLE AND RATIONAL AND WHAT HAS BEEN
03:56:39 EXPLAINED AND SAID, YOU KNOW.
03:56:41 SURELY AS THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER OF COURSE ARE
03:56:47 NOT HAPPY AND I AM SURE THAT EVERYONE ELSE, THE COMMUNITY
03:56:50 SHARES THOSE SENTIMENTS MAYBE FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.
03:56:53 BUT I DO UNDERSTAND.
03:56:58 SO I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU ALL TO DO WHAT YOU THINK
03:57:02 NEEDS TO BE DONE.
03:57:04 I JUST FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST HOPING FOR FAIRNESS AND
03:57:15 A HIGHER LEVEL OF ATTENTION FOR WHATEVER CAUSED THIS TO
03:57:22 HAPPEN, WOULD TAKE PLACE.
03:57:26 I UNDERSTAND WE ARE ALL HUMAN, AND THINGS HAPPEN.
03:57:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
03:57:32 I THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR
03:57:35 PATIENCE.
03:57:37 MS. WELLS.
03:57:37 >>CATE WELLS: IF I MAY, I JUST SPOKE WITH LACHONE DOCK.
03:57:41 SHE INDICATED THAT THE STAFF REPORT WHICH SHOULD BE
03:57:43 FINALIZED BY TOMORROW, COULD WE POSSIBLY CONTINUE THIS TO
03:57:47 NEXT WEEK SINCE WE HAVE AN EVENING MEETING ON JULY 21st,
03:57:51 AND THAT WOULD MOVE IT UP BY A COUPLE OF WEEKS?
03:57:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:57:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I ASK, IS THERE ANY SUBSTANCE
03:58:00 BETWEEN THIS FIRST READING HAS ALREADY PASSED, WITH SECOND
03:58:03 READING?
03:58:03 >>CATE WELLS: I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO STAFF ON THAT.
03:58:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM SAYING WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
03:58:08 IF SOMEBODY KNOWS WHAT IT IS, AND IS IT COMPLICATED BY NOT
03:58:11 DOING?
03:58:11 BECAUSE THIS IS AN ANOMALY THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW HAPPENED AND
03:58:14 NOBODY UNDERSTOOD WHAT HAPPENED BUT --
03:58:19 >>CATE WELLS: WHAT'S BEEN DESCRIBED TO ME IS THE ANALYSIS
03:58:22 WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT BUT I HAVE TO DEFER TO ZAIN
03:58:25 HUSSEIN.
03:58:26 HE'S PREPARING AN ANALYSIS AND PRESENTED THE CASE INITIALLY.
03:58:30 I CAN'T SPEAK TO IT WITHOUT REVIEWING THAT.
03:58:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T WANT TO COMPLICATE THE PROBLEM.
03:58:35 I'M JUST ASKING ONE, NOT THE OTHER SIX.
03:58:39 JUST ME.
03:58:40 I WOULD RATHER HAVE IT TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT IT IS.
03:58:43 I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
03:58:44 BUT WHATEVER IT IS, IT MUST BE SOMETHING, NOT A SMALL THING.
03:58:49 >>CATE WELLS: AND STAFF HAS INDICATED THE REPORT WILL BE
03:58:51 READY TOMORROW.
03:58:53 THAT TYPICALLY WHEN REPORTS ARE AVAILABLE IN ADVANCE OF YOUR
03:58:57 REZONING HEARINGS THAT WOULD ALLOW THE APPLICANT AN
03:59:00 OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT AND HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO ADDRESS ANY
03:59:04 OF THE CHANGES IN THE STAFF REPORT FROM THE LAST TIME YOU
03:59:07 SAW IT.
03:59:08 ALSO ALLOW A OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW IT.
03:59:11 BUT BY NOON JULY 21st INSTEAD OF AUGUST 4th WE ARE
03:59:16 SAVING A COUPLE OF WEEKS THERE.
03:59:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE.
03:59:20 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I KNOW YOU ARE PROBABLY GOING TO
03:59:22 DO THIS ALREADY BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO GET PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:59:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
03:59:26 I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT EVERY TIME.
03:59:28 FOR THE CONTINUANCE ONLY. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE
03:59:30 THAT WISHES TO MAKE COMMENT TO THE CONTINUANCE ONLY OF THIS
03:59:36 CASE, OF THIS AGENDA ITEM?
03:59:39 AGAIN, TO THE CONTINUANCE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM.
03:59:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, THIS WILL BE GOING BACK, SO THE
03:59:51 RECORD IS CLEAR FOR THE CLERK, FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
03:59:54 IS THAT CORRECT?
03:59:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FROM WHAT I AM UNDERSTANDING, IT'S GOING TO
03:59:58 GO BACK TO JULY 21st, AND HOPEFULLY THE MAKER OF THE
04:00:04 MOTION WILL PUT IT THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
04:00:07 >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
04:00:11 MY PROBLEM WITH THIS IS I HEARD THAT IT MIGHT BE CONTINUED
04:00:15 TO AUGUST 4th AND IT WOULD BE THE FIRST ITEM ON THE
04:00:17 AGENDA.
04:00:18 AND I CAN BE HERE FOR THAT BUT I CAN'T BE HEAR FOR THE JULY
04:00:22 21st.
04:00:23 I AM GOING TO BE OUT OF STATE.
04:00:24 I HAVE A LOT TO PRESENT.
04:00:25 I HAVE PEOPLE HERE, SO EVEN IF I TRIED TO TESTIFY CMT OUT OF
04:00:32 STATE, I WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO SAY HALF OF WHAT I HAVE.
04:00:37 SO A CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST 4th, I CAN BE HERE, BUT JULY
04:00:43 21st, I HAVE A PRETTY IN-DEPTH DETAILED UNDERSTANDING OF
04:00:49 WHAT'S GOING ON AND SEVERAL PEOPLE DONATED MINUTES BECAUSE
04:00:53 THEY FEEL LIKE I CAN EXPLAIN THINGS.
04:00:57 AUGUST 4th WILL WORK.
04:00:58 TONIGHT WILL WORK.
04:00:59 BUT 21st WON'T WORK.
04:01:01 I WILL HAVE BE TO BE DO IT REMOTELY.
04:01:03 THEN HOW DO I DONATE MINUTES?
04:01:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T MEAN TO ACT LIKE IT'S A
04:01:08 CONSOLATION, AND IT'S NOT, BUT I CAN YOU MY WORD IF YOU PUT
04:01:12 IT INTO AN E-MAIL I WILL MAKE SURE THAT EVERY COUNCIL HAS
04:01:18 IT.
04:01:20 >> WELL, THAT MAKES ME BETTER.
04:01:22 IF I AM SURE THAT EVERYBODY WILL LOOK AT IT AND READ IT.
04:01:25 IT'S A LOT EASIER.
04:01:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND I GUARANTEE THAT EACH COUNCIL PERSON
04:01:32 WILL HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF THEM.
04:01:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU ALSO MAKE SURE IT GOES TO THE CLERK
04:01:37 AS WELL, AND THE QUASI BOX.
04:01:43 >> AND THEN I WILL SPEAK TO MY THREE MINUTES IN CMT.
04:01:51 I WILL BE IN A VERY RURAL AREA.
04:01:53 BUT I WANT TO SAY THIS IS PRETTY COMPLICATED AT THIS POINT
04:01:56 BECAUSE THERE IS SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE STAFF REPORT AND
04:01:58 THE COMPLEXITY OF IT IS DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN, AND BECAUSE I
04:02:03 HAVE BEEN DOING THIS SO LONG, I UNDERSTAND IT BETTER SO THEY
04:02:06 HAVE ASKED ME TO DO IT FOR THEM.
04:02:08 BUT I WILL E-MAIL IT TO YOU.
04:02:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
04:02:12 >> MIKE McNABB, THE CURRENT POLICY OF THE WEST
04:02:23 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND I DID WANT YOU TO LET YOU KNOW
04:02:26 THAT OUR ASSOCIATION DID TAKE A VOTE AND VOTED TO OPPOSE --
04:02:30 >> SPEAKING TO THE CONTINUANCE ONLY.
04:02:32 >> OKAY.
04:02:33 BUT WE ARE PREPARED TODAY, AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE
04:02:36 THAT HAVE BEEN HERE QUITE SOME TIME, AND THEY ARE READY TO
04:02:39 SPEAK AND WE ARE PREPARED, TOO.
04:02:40 BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE NEW STAFF REPORT EITHER.
04:02:42 AND WE UNDERSTAND IT WILL BE VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE
04:02:46 THAT WAS FIRST ISSUED.
04:02:47 SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO SAY EITHER, AND I
04:02:50 GUESS THE BEST THING IS, UNTIL WE SEE IT AND YOU SEE IT, WE
04:02:54 HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THEY PUT OUT.
04:02:57 SO WE'LL DO THAT.
04:03:00 I. IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, JULY 21st IS NEXT WEEK.
04:03:05 >> I DON'T THINK WE CAN -- I DON'T THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO
04:03:09 EXPECT THESE PEOPLE FOR ANOTHER WEEK TO TAKE THE TIME OFF
04:03:12 AND COME BACK HERE AND DO THIS AGAIN.
04:03:15 THEY HAVE NO NOTICE OF THAT.
04:03:16 SO WE WOULD PREFER TO GO TO AUGUST AND LET THESE PEOPLE MAKE
04:03:20 THEIR PLANS SO THEY CAN TAKE THE TIME OFF.
04:03:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
04:03:25 >> THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE TO SAY, MY NAME IS PAM
04:03:46 TRUDELL, AND I AM AGAINST THE REZONING, BUT AUGUST 8th
04:03:52 IS THE DATE THAT I THINK THAT WE NEED ON.
04:03:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AUGUST 4th.
04:03:58 >> I'M SORRY, AUGUST 4th IS A BETTER DATE FOR THE
04:04:01 RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE ABLE TO READ IT, KNOW
04:04:05 WHAT'S GOING ON, AND TO BE ABLE TO GET BACK HERE BETWEEN
04:04:09 AGAIN.
04:04:09 WE SPENT ALL DAY WAITING TODAY.
04:04:11 AND I NEED A REST.
04:04:17 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
04:04:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC THAT
04:04:20 WANTS TO SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE ONLY?
04:04:24 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:04:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MIGHT I SUGGEST THAT WE DO CONTINUE
04:04:27 THIS TO AUGUST 4th?
04:04:30 THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN WAITING ALL DAY.
04:04:35 I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE APPLICANT IS ON THAT, BUT THEY SAT
04:04:37 HERE FOR OVER SIX HOURS, AND-COMES AS A SURPRISE I. IT'S
04:04:45 COME AS A SURPRISE --
04:04:46 >>> TO EVERYBODY.
04:04:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM GOING TO ASK THE APPLICANT HIS OPINION
04:04:50 ON IT.
04:04:51 WILL AUGUST 4th?
04:04:52 I KNOW THAT YOU TOO HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR A LONG TIME ON
04:04:55 THIS.
04:04:56 WILL AUGUST 4th BE ACCEPTABLE TO YOU AS WELL?
04:04:58 >> ONLY BY FORCE, BECAUSE THAT REALLY IS NOT WHERE WE WANT
04:05:04 TO BE.
04:05:05 WE WERE YESTERDAY WHERE WE LIKE TO BE AND WHEN IT COMES TO
04:05:10 SACRIFICING TIME OFF, I HAVE ALREADY EXPRESSED WHAT I HAVE
04:05:13 GIVEN TODAY, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN ORDER
04:05:16 TO SEE THIS MATTER THROUGH.
04:05:18 SO I DEFINITELY WANT THIS TO BE DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
04:05:22 I HAVE ALREADY STEPPED BACK TO SAY I UNDERSTAND THE MATTER,
04:05:26 I UNDERSTAND IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, A DATE WAS PUT ON THE
04:05:29 TABLE FOR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, NEXT WEEK, AND THAT IS THE
04:05:33 DATE THAT I DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP.
04:05:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING BY FORCE.
04:05:43 I'M TRYING TO FIND HAPPY GROUND.
04:05:46 >> AND I THINK IN MY OPINION THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW,
04:05:49 IS THE FACT THAT EACH TIME EVERYONE DOESN'T GET THE FULL
04:05:53 OPPORTUNITY TO DO EVERYTHING THAT THEY ARE COMFORT, BUT
04:05:56 SURELY EVERYONE IS BEING GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK
04:06:00 AND TO ADDRESS THE MATTER AND TO BE HEARD IN A MANNER OF
04:06:06 PROTOCOL.
04:06:06 I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE ALREADY.
04:06:08 NOW WE ARE MOVING INTO LEVELS OF COMFORT.
04:06:10 THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.
04:06:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA?
04:06:14 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
04:06:15 JULY 28th WE HAVE A MORNING MEETING THAT WILL PROBABLY
04:06:19 RUN LONG. CAN WE HAVE IT AS A TIME CERTAIN AS A COMPROMISE
04:06:23 ON JULY 28th?
04:06:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FIRST ITEM IN THE EVENING SESSION.
04:06:29 THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM.
04:06:30 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
04:06:32 JUST AS A COMPROMISE.
04:06:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
04:06:38 THIS IS A VERY UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE.
04:06:39 CERTAINLY THIS GENTLEMAN HAS A PROPERTY INTEREST.
04:06:42 I WONDER IF ANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE
04:06:46 TESTIFYING ARE WITHIN THE NOTICED AREA JUST FOR THE SAKE OF
04:06:49 PRESERVATION OF THE RECORD.
04:06:51 >> ARE YOU ASKING ME A QUESTION?
04:06:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, I AM TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF 250
04:06:59 FEET.
04:07:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ALSO HAVE FIVE PEOPLE ONLINE.
04:07:08 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN I WILL COME TO YOU.
04:07:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST 2022 SAY, IN MY YEARS OF PUBLIC
04:07:14 SERVICE I NEVER HAD ONE THAT'S HAPPENED LIKE THIS.
04:07:18 BUT EVERY DAY IS A NEW DAY AND THINGS HAPPEN.
04:07:21 I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
04:07:22 BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO UNDERSTAND ON BOTH SIDES, WE BASE ON
04:07:25 DECISION ALL SEVEN OF US, AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE
04:07:31 LITTLE THAT I CAN PICK UP, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE READ IS
04:07:36 NOT 100% CORRECT.
04:07:37 SO SOMEWHERE, WHAT WE READ AND WHAT'S COMING, IS THE FACTS
04:07:41 OF THE MATTER.
04:07:43 IT'S LIKE A FAULT IN THE EARTH.
04:07:45 IT MOVED.
04:07:45 NOW, WHEN THAT COMS HAPPENS, SOMETHING CAVED IN.
04:07:48 I VOTED ON WHAT I READ I.WANT TO SEE HOW I VOLT AFTER I READ
04:07:52 WHAT I GET.
04:07:53 THAT'S ALL.
04:07:53 THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
04:07:55 BUT WE CAN'T-IT'S GOT TO BE DONE CORRECTLY WITHIN THE LAW.
04:08:01 THAT'S ALL.
04:08:04 SOMEWHERE IT'S GOING TO CHALLENGE US ONE WAY OR THE OTHER
04:08:07 AND I JUST WANT TOO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS DONE
04:08:09 PERFECTLY.
04:08:09 THAT'S ALL, MR. CHAIR.
04:08:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:08:14 >>BILL CARLSON: I WONDER IF STAFF OR APPLICANT CAN TELL US,
04:08:17 IF YOU DON'T QUANTITY TO GO INTO SUBSTANCE, TELL US WHAT THE
04:08:19 CAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN THE STAFF REPORT WAS?
04:08:21 DID THE PROJECT CHANGE SUBSTANTIALLY, OR DID STAFF -- WHAT
04:08:25 CAUSED THE STAFF REPORT TO BE CHANGED SUBSTANTIALLY?
04:08:30 >> WERE YOU DIRECTING THAT AT ME OR STAFF?
04:08:36 WHAT HAPPENED THIS MORNING WHEN I GOT HERE, AND GAVE ME THE
04:08:39 INFORMATION.
04:08:40 THAT'S WHEN I FIRST GOT IT.
04:08:42 AND I THINK IT'S WORTHY OF BEING HEARD.
04:08:47 YOU KNOW, I WON'T DISPUTE THAT.
04:08:49 I JUST THINK THAT IT REMIND ME IF I HAD TO MAKE AN ANALOGY
04:08:54 IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, ON A SCALE FROM ONE TO TEN, IF IT
04:08:59 SCORED NINE THE FIRST TIME MAYBE IT'S GOING TO SCORE EIGHT
04:09:02 THE SECOND TIME BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE
04:09:04 HEARD.
04:09:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
04:09:05 >> YOU DON'T KNOW WHY THE STAFF REPORT CHANGED?
04:09:09 >> NO, IT'S SOMETHING STAFF WOULD HAVE TO REFER TO BECAUSE
04:09:12 NOTHING WE DID, WE MADE NO CHANGES.
04:09:15 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU DIDN'T CHANGE THE PROJECT?
04:09:18 >> NOTHING.
04:09:19 ZERO.
04:09:19 THE NO CHANGES ON THAT PART.
04:09:20 I THINK IT WAS JUST INFORMATION PROVIDED THAT THERE WAS
04:09:23 SOME MISCALCULATIONS --
04:09:27 >>BILL CARLSON: COULD STAFF ANSWER THAT QUESTION, PLEASE?
04:09:29 YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL US THE SUBSTANCE.
04:09:31 WHAT CAUSED THE DRAMATIC CHANGES?
04:09:34 >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
04:09:35 THIS WAS -- (AUDIO LOST)
04:09:42 THE REVIEW ANALYSIS THAT WAS GIVEN.
04:09:44 AND ONCE WE LOOKED AT THE MAP AND LOOKED AT THE DATA THAT
04:09:47 WAS GIVEN, IN CORRELATION TO THAT, AND COMPARED IT TO THE
04:09:51 TRANSCRIPT AND WHAT WAS PRESENTED, WE JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE
04:09:54 TO START WITH A CLEAR RECORD.
04:09:56 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
04:09:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE ONLINE, AND I AM GOING
04:10:05 TO ASK IF ANY OF THEM WISH TO SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE ONLY.
04:10:11 >> TO WHICH, JUST SO WE ARE CLEAR?
04:10:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE DON'T KNOW YET.
04:10:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AS TO WHETHER THEY WANT --
04:10:25 >> YES, THIS IS TO A CONTINUANCE ONLY.
04:10:28 IS THIS MS. SPARKS?
04:10:33 OKAY.
04:10:36 I AM GOING TO HAVE TO GET A FEW MORE PEOPLE ONLINE TO AT
04:10:40 LEAST BRING THEIR PICTURE UP SO WE CAN HAVE YOU SWORN IN.
04:10:43 >>THE CLERK: WE ONLY HAVE THREE PEOPLE LOGGED ON.
04:10:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN I GET THOSE THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE
04:10:52 LOGGED ON TO SHOW THEMSELVES ON THE CAMERA?
04:10:54 >>THE CLERK: ONE DOES NOT HAVE VIDEO CAPABILITY FROM WHAT I
04:10:56 CAN SEE.
04:10:59 >> I DO HAVE VIDEO BUT FOR SOME REASON IT'S NOT WORKING.
04:11:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE ONLINE BY VIDEO,
04:11:10 YOU CAN GIVE STATEMENTS BUT I DO NEED YOU TO BE SWORN IN.
04:11:13 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
04:11:15 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
04:11:24 THANK YOU.
04:11:24 MAKE SURE YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.
04:11:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. SPARKS, CAN YOU PLEASE GO FIRST?
04:11:37 MS. SPARKS, YOU ARE MUTED.
04:11:39 THROUGH GO.
04:11:39 >> SAMANTHA SPARKS: I AGREE WITH THE CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST
04:11:46 4th SO EVERYONE HAS TIME TO REVIEW THE NEW INFORMATION.
04:11:49 >> IS THAT ALL?
04:11:54 >> YES.
04:11:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR WAITING.
04:11:55 THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
04:11:58 AND WHO IS NEXT?
04:12:02 MS. McMAHAN?
04:12:05 >> LAURIE McMAHAN: YES.
04:12:08 I WOULD LIKE AUGUST 4th A NIGHTTIME MEETING AND THAT
04:12:11 WOULD WORK BETTER FOR ME.
04:12:13 >> OKAY.
04:12:18 IS THAT THE END OF WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY?
04:12:23 >> YES.
04:12:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
04:12:25 THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
04:12:30 I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
04:12:39 I. MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, IT'S A VERY INTERESTING
04:12:45 AND DIFFICULT POSITION, BUT HE IS THE APPLICANT, AND HE IS
04:12:47 THE ONE WITH THE PROPERTY INTEREST, AND I BELIEVE THE TERM
04:12:56 HE USED -- DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
04:13:00 THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO AUGUST
04:13:03 4th?
04:13:06 EXCUSE ME, AUGUST --
04:13:09 >> THE DATE THAT WAS SPECIFIED AS BEING AVAILABLE, AND THAT
04:13:12 IS THE DATE THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO KEEP, CORRECT, AS SOON
04:13:16 AS POSSIBLE.
04:13:17 IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.
04:13:18 AND THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO BE.
04:13:21 I AM HERE WHENEVER THE RULES SAY I AM SUPPOSED TO BE, AND I
04:13:26 KNOW THAT THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION.
04:13:29 SO I DO UNDERSTAND.
04:13:32 I AM NOT BEING CALLUS TO THE DESIRES OF THE PUBLIC THAT WANT
04:13:37 TO HAVE INTEREST, BUT I THINK THAT EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE
04:13:40 IN THE SAME BOAT IN TERMS OF YOU SEE THE DATA, YOU RESPOND
04:13:46 TO THE DATA.
04:13:46 IT DOESN'T TAKE ANY GREAT LENGTH OF TIME TO RESPOND TO IT
04:13:50 BECAUSE THE CASE IS THE SAME.
04:13:52 THE FACTS ARE THE SAME BUT THE INFORMATION THAT IS BEING
04:13:57 PROVIDED DOES NOT TAKE WEEKS TO PROCESS.
04:14:01 SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT JUST COMES DOWN TO CONVENIENCE,
04:14:04 AND THAT'S THE PART THAT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT
04:14:09 CONVENIENCE BE A FACTOR THAT IMPOSES ON OUR ABILITY TO GO
04:14:14 FORWARD.
04:14:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:14:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S ALWAYS TOUGH WHEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE
04:14:21 DECISIONS UP HERE.
04:14:22 BUT WHAT I SEE THAT STAFF MADE A MISTAKE, THEY OWN UP TO THE
04:14:26 MISTAKE, STAFF GETS THE DATA OUT, THE 21st, IS THAT
04:14:31 CORRECT?
04:14:31 >>CATE WELLS: FOR THE RECORD, I HAD SUGGESTED THE 21st
04:14:37 AS SOON AS I KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN EVENING MEETING AND
04:14:40 AVAILABILITY.
04:14:41 HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT WITH
04:14:44 QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT DUE PROCESS IS
04:14:48 PROVIDED TO NOT ONLY THE APPLICANT BUT TO THOSE WITHIN THE
04:14:52 NOTICED AREA.
04:14:53 WHAT I AM HEARING TODAY IS THAT THERE ARE FOLKS WITHIN THE
04:14:56 NOTICED AREA THAT ARE PRESENT THAT ARE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL
04:15:00 TIME.
04:15:00 I KNOW THIS IS A DIFFICULT DECISION, BUT IF YOU WOULD TAKE
04:15:04 INTO CONSIDERATION THE FACT THAT FOLKS IN ADDITION TO THE
04:15:09 APPLICANT ARE ENTITLED TO DUE PROCESS, AND THAT MAY POSSIBLY
04:15:16 TIE INTO THE TIMING OF A RESCHEDULED HEARING.
04:15:18 THANK YOU.
04:15:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO THE 21ST, AND THE 28th, RIGHT?
04:15:23 AUGUST 4th.
04:15:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF WE KEEP IT UP WE WILL BE ON THE
04:15:33 4th.
04:15:33 >> MAY I SPEAK?
04:15:35 >> PLEASE.
04:15:36 >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE, IN MY
04:15:42 OPINION, AS AN APPLICANT, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IS BECAUSE I
04:15:46 AM CONTINUOUSLY BEING TOLD SOMETHING BY THIS CITY
04:15:50 GOVERNMENT, AND IT IS NOT SO, AND IT CONTINUES TO MOVE THE
04:15:53 BAR, AND IT'S NOT FAIR.
04:15:56 I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THEIR
04:16:00 COMFORTS AND THEIR DESIRES AND WHATNOT.
04:16:03 BUT THIS IS NOT FAIR.
04:16:05 THIS IS NOT HOW THIS PROCESS HAS EVER WORKED FOR ME IN THE
04:16:08 PAST, AND I KNOW IT'S VERY STRANGE AND DIFFERENT FOR YOU.
04:16:13 BUT EVEN AS WE STAND HERE IN THE VERY MOMENT, THIS IS SAID,
04:16:19 LET'S MOVE THE BAR.
04:16:20 I THINK THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED, AND QUITE FRANKLY UNFAIR.
04:16:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, LET ME SAY THIS IF I MAY.
04:16:27 I WANT TO ANSWER THIS.
04:16:28 GOVERNMENT IS LIKE A BALLOON.
04:16:30 AND IT MOVES.
04:16:31 VERY SLOW.
04:16:33 AND IN THAT BALLOON IS THE CONTENT OF ALL OF US IN THERE.
04:16:41 ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WHETHER JULY 21st, JULY 28th
04:16:46 OR AUGUST 4th.
04:16:47 THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
04:16:49 IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
04:16:50 WE ARE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT WAS GIVEN, SOMETHING THAT
04:16:52 WAS PUT IN THE RECORD, AND WHAT I HEAR NOW WITHOUT KNOWING
04:16:56 EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, NOT THE RIGHT PROPER THING TO PUT IN.
04:17:01 THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.
04:17:03 PEOPLE TESTIFIED FROM THE CITY, AND I AM NOT SAYING ONE WAY
04:17:07 OR THE OTHER.
04:17:07 BLUE FOR THIS COUNCIL TO -- AND THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID IT --
04:17:13 THERE'S TWO PARTIES HERE, YOUR PARTY AND THEIR PARTY.
04:17:17 AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS OR
04:17:20 INDEPENDENTS.
04:17:21 I AM TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING BEING RIGHT THAT WAS VOTED ON,
04:17:27 BUT AT THE TIME IT WAS VOTED ON, FROM WHAT I AM GATHERING
04:17:30 FROM THE INFORMATION I HAVE HEARD, WAS NOT 100% CORRECT ON
04:17:34 WHAT WAS GIVEN TO THIS COUNCIL AND TO THE PUBLIC.
04:17:39 THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND HAPPENED.
04:17:41 OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S NO ISSUE HERE WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE
04:17:44 HEARD.
04:17:44 SO IF YOU DON'T MAKE UP YOUR MIND, BECAUSE BETWEEN NOW, IT'S
04:17:49 GOT TO BE BETWEEN LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, BOTH PARTIES
04:17:53 HAVE AN INTEREST.
04:17:54 NOT ONE, NOT THE OTHER HAS A GREATER INTEREST.
04:17:57 SO YOU, AUDIENCE AND THIS GENTLEMAN, YOU TELL US WHEN YOU
04:18:01 WANT TO HAVE IT.
04:18:02 >> IN MY OPINION, WITH ALL RESPECT -- AND I RESPECT, EVER
04:18:07 SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS SINCE THE 80s, YOU HAVE
04:18:09 BEEN HERE.
04:18:11 BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY, THAT IT'S BEEN CLEAR TO ME AND
04:18:14 CLEARLY STATED BY ONE OF THE PUBLIC'S REPRESENTATIVES IN A
04:18:19 SHE'S READY TONIGHT.
04:18:21 SHE ALREADY HAS -- SHE KNOWS WHAT THE ISSUE IS, AND SHE HAS
04:18:24 HER INFORMATION READY TO GO.
04:18:26 BUT HERE IS MY POINT.
04:18:27 I'M NOT SAYING LET'S GO TONIGHT.
04:18:29 I'M SAYING LET'S GO ON THE DATE THAT WAS GIVEN, BECAUSE THE
04:18:34 NOTION THAT SOMEHOW THEY DON'T KNOW, AND IT'S KNOWN NOW, I
04:18:40 THINK IT'S UNDERSTOOD, SO I AM STEPPING BACK TO SAY, OKAY,
04:18:44 LET'S HAVE IT BE HEARD, I AM NOT ARGUING THAT POINT, BUT TO
04:18:48 DO IT LATER AND LATER FOR COMFORT AND FOR REASONS THAT ARE
04:18:52 REALLY ERRONEOUS, THEY ALREADY HAVE THINGS PREPARED, AND I
04:18:55 WILL BE PREPARED AS WELL.
04:18:56 SO THE 21st IS WHERE I WANT TO BE, AND OF COURSE IT'S UP
04:19:01 TO YOU, BUT THAT'S MY POSITION.
04:19:03 AND THEY HAVE ALREADY STATED THEIR POSITION THE 4th.
04:19:06 I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS GOING TO CHANGE.
04:19:09 SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
04:19:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OR WE JUST WON'T HEAR IT.
04:19:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:19:17 >>BILL CARLSON: WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE
04:19:19 TAPE, BUT WHAT I RECOLLECT WAS THAT ALL THIS WAS PUT OUT AS
04:19:24 THE FIRST OPTION, AUGUST 4th, AND I THINK MRS. WELLS WAS
04:19:29 TRYING TO BRAINSTORM ANOTHER DATE.
04:19:30 BUT IT WASN'T THAT THE 21st WAS PUT OUT FIRST, IT WAS
04:19:36 AUGUST 4th AND THEN THERE WAS DISCUSSION.
04:19:38 BUT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS SAID THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE
04:19:41 DUE PROCESS.
04:19:42 WHEN WE ASKED HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE PROPERTY WITHIN 250 FEET,
04:19:46 A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE STOOD UP.
04:19:48 AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE CANNOT MAYBE -- OR
04:19:54 SOME PEOPLE CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN A WEEK, AND IT'S ALSO NOT
04:19:57 ENOUGH TIME MAYBE FOR EVERYBODY TO GET THEIR CONSULTANTS AND
04:20:00 OTHERS TO LOOK AT IT.
04:20:03 AND MR. MANISCALCO ALREADY MADE A MOTION.
04:20:06 I AM ALSO HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO PUT IT ON AUGUST
04:20:09 4th.
04:20:09 IT'S TWO WEEKS DIFFERENCE THAN THE 21st, BUT WE GET THE
04:20:14 LARGEST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE MORE TIME TO LOOK AT THIS.
04:20:17 AND I WOULD ASK IN THE MEANTIME THAT WE DISCUSS IN OTHER
04:20:22 MEETINGS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME INCONSISTENCIES IN THE
04:20:26 DEPARTMENT IN HELPING THE PEOPLE LIKE THIS, AND YOU SAID
04:20:30 IT'S THE FIRST TIME YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS.
04:20:33 I WOULD ASK STAFF TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION AND MAKE SURE THAT
04:20:36 WE ARE BEING FAIR TO THE APPLICANT AND MOVING THIS FORWARD
04:20:40 AND THIS KIND OF THING IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN SO WE
04:20:43 CAN GET AN ANSWER ON AUGUST 4th.
04:20:45 I DON'T KNOW IF MR. MANISCALCO WANTS TO MAKE THE MOTION
04:20:48 AGAIN, OR I CAN.
04:20:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:20:51 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST VERY BRIEFLY, I AGREE.
04:20:54 MY ORIGINAL STATEMENT WAS TO HEAR FROM LEGAL AND IT APPEARS
04:20:56 FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM LEGAL THAT THERE IS POTENTIAL RISK IN
04:21:00 GOING IN A WEEK, AND LOOKING AT IT OBJECTIVELY SPEAKING,
04:21:04 PROBABLY A WEEK IS TOO LITTLE TIME IF THERE IS NEW
04:21:07 ADDITIONAL INFORMS, LIKE COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID,
04:21:09 CONSULTANTS, ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF.
04:21:11 SO I AM FINE WITH EITHER JULY 28th OR THE FIRST WEEK OF
04:21:15 AUGUST.
04:21:15 LET'S MOVE FORWARD, IN MY OPINION, AND GO FROM THERE.
04:21:18 THANK YOU.
04:21:18 >>CATE WELLS: I DON'T BELIEVE CITY COUNCIL HAS AN EVENING
04:21:23 MEETING ON JULY 28th AND REZONING BY STATUTE, ONE OF THE
04:21:27 MEETINGS WILL BE IN THE EVENING, AND SINCE WE ARE STARTING
04:21:30 BACK FROM THE BEGINNING, GO BACK TO FIRST READING, IT'S MY
04:21:34 RECOMMENDATION IT BE AN EVENING MEETING.
04:21:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AUGUST 4th IN THE EVENING, FIRST ON
04:21:39 THE AGENDA, 5:01 P.M.
04:21:42 >> SECOND.
04:21:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
04:21:46 MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:21:49 ROLL CALL VOTE.
04:21:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
04:21:59 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
04:22:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
04:22:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
04:22:02 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
04:22:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
04:22:05 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
04:22:06 >> MR. CHAIR, COULD I JUST REITERATE WHAT I SAID? I DON'T
04:22:14 THINK WE NEED A MOTION.
04:22:15 BUT JUST PLEASE, STAFF, WORK CLOSELY WITH THE APPLICANT AND
04:22:19 WHOEVER THE APPLICANT'S CLIENTS ARE SO THAT WE MAKE SURE WE
04:22:23 ARE FAIR TO THEM AND GET ALL THE T'S CROSSED AND I'S DOTTED.
04:22:30 THIS IS VERY EMBARRASSING AND SAD FOR ALL OF US AND BEST
04:22:33 WISHES TO YOUR FATHER, TOO.
04:22:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:22:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR BEING COMPASSIONATE.
04:22:40 THANK YOU FOR NOT BEING IRATE AND GOING OFF.
04:22:43 SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
04:22:45 SOME OTHER PEOPLE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE WENT OFF LIKE CRAZY.
04:22:50 WE APPRECIATE THAT.
04:22:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING
04:23:01 AND FOR YOUR PATIENCE, AND TO EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT
04:23:06 IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE, ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.
04:23:09 I THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND YOUR PATIENCE.
04:23:11 THANK YOU.
04:23:21 AGENDA ITEM 112, FILE SU-2-22-
04:23:33 FILE NUMBER SU-2-22-01.
04:23:48 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
04:23:51 CASE SU-2-22-01, THIS IS PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
04:23:55 ADOPTION.
04:23:56 SPECIAL USE 2 PERMIT FOR A DAYCARE IN AN RS-60 RESIDENTIAL
04:24:01 SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT AT A LOCATION 4302 WEST EUCLID
04:24:07 AVENUE AND 4221 BAY VILLA AVENUE.
04:24:11 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TO CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
04:24:14 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
04:24:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
04:24:17 APPLICANT?
04:24:20 ONLINE.
04:24:20 >> ALEX SCHULER. THIS WAS SET FOR FIRST READING BACK IN
04:24:32 JUNE AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
04:24:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
04:24:37 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:24:37 IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?
04:24:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
04:24:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:24:46 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:24:47 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
04:24:52 PLEASE PLACE YOUR VOTES.
04:25:01 >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE SU-2-22-01.
04:25:05 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
04:25:08 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 APPROVING A
04:25:12 DAYCARE IN AN RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING
04:25:16 DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4302 WEST EUCLID AVENUE
04:25:20 AND 4221 BAY VILLA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
04:25:25 AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF,
04:25:29 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
04:25:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:25:35 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:25:37 PLEASE VOTE AND RECORD.
04:25:38 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA AND
04:25:46 GUDES BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
04:25:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
04:25:54 FILE NUMBER 13.
04:26:03 FILE REZ 21-130.
04:26:05 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
04:26:09 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT A LOCATION 404
04:26:12 SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE, PROPOSED REZONING FROM RM-16
04:26:16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
04:26:20 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
04:26:22 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
04:26:25 HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
04:26:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
04:26:30 THANK YOU.
04:26:30 PETITIONER?
04:26:31 >> RUSSELL OTTENBERG, 3737 BAY CHOICE DRIVE.
04:26:40 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
04:26:41 I DID WANT TO ASK, THOUGH, IF COUNCILMAN GUDES AND
04:26:45 COUNCILMAN VIERA WOULD BE --
04:26:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET ANOTHER
04:26:54 COUNCILMEMBER HERE.
04:26:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE'S ONE.
04:26:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT ANOTHER ONE?
04:27:07 >> IF HE'S AVAILABLE I WOULD APPRECIATE IT, YES.
04:27:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 113.
04:27:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE CAN ALWAYS TAKE A 30-MINUTE BREAK.
04:27:22 [ LAUGHTER ]
04:27:28 >> WE WILL PROCEED.
04:27:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FIVE-MINUTE BREAK.
04:27:33 (RECESS)
04:27:36
04:36:02 (ROLL CALL)
04:36:03 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
04:36:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:36:09 AGAIN WE ARE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 113, FILE REZ 21-130.
04:36:17 WE HAVE HEARD FROM STAFF.
04:36:18 WE ARE NOW GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PETITIONER.
04:36:20 >> RUSSELL OTTENBERG, AGAIN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
04:36:27 THAT CITY COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
04:36:28 >> ANY COMMENT OR ANY QUESTIONS?
04:36:32 IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
04:36:34 THIS?
04:36:38 SEEING NONE, OKAY.
04:36:44 >> I DO.
04:37:04 MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN?
04:37:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, YOU ARE ON.
04:37:12 CAN YOU PLEASE SWEAR HIM IN?
04:37:14 >>THE CLERK: MR. BACON, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
04:37:21 >> I DO.
04:37:23 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
04:37:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. BACON, YOUR SCREEN IS BEING SHARED.
04:37:30 >> OKAY.
04:37:32 I AM GOING TO ASK DO YOU SEE MY PowerPoint SLIDE RIGHT
04:37:36 NOW?
04:37:38 >> YES, I CAN.
04:37:39 >> KEVIN BACON: I WILL TRY TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIGGER.
04:37:43 WE ARE AGAINST THIS REZONING HERE.
04:37:46 AND I AM GOING TO MAKE THIS BRIEF.
04:37:48 I AM GOING TO MAKE IT TO THE POINT.
04:37:50 AND I DO WANT YOU TO -- AS I GO THROUGH THESE SLIDE, I WANT
04:37:55 YOU TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT WE ARE IN AN EVACUATION TYPE OF
04:37:58 SITUATION.
04:38:01 SO WHAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE SAFETY ASPECT,
04:38:05 ESPECIALLY ON THE SIDE OF THAT ALLEY WHERE THERE'S A NUMBER
04:38:07 OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE THEIR CARS THAT GO IN AND OUT, THEY HAVE
04:38:12 GOT GARAGES, ET CETERA, THEY DO WALK UP AND DOWN, THERE'S A
04:38:15 NUMBER OF MOTHERS WITH BABIES, DOGS, PETS, ET CETERA, SO A
04:38:19 LOT OF ACTIVITY GOES DOWN THROUGH THIS ALLEY.
04:38:22 SO WITH THIS POINT, WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT HERE IS TEN
04:38:27 PETITIONERS THAT HAVE SIGNED THIS THAT DO NOT WANT THIS TO
04:38:31 MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE OF THE REASONS I JUST STATED.
04:38:35 I AM GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO SLIDE FIVE AND I AM SURE YOU
04:38:40 ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THESE SLIDE.
04:38:43 BUT WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT HERE IS COMPARING FOUR ALLEYS,
04:38:47 IN THIS VICINITY, AND I WAS CURIOUS TO SEE, OKAY, HOW MANY
04:38:52 CAR SPACES ARE AVAILABLE WITHIN THIS REALLY SMALL BARRIER OF
04:38:57 THESE ALLEYS DOWN HERE?
04:38:59 YOU LOOK AT THE RED SPACE HERE, THE RED COLUMN, THIS IS OUR
04:39:05 ALLEY.
04:39:06 THAT'S BEHIND THE PROPOSED PETITION HERE, THE PROPOSED
04:39:14 DEVELOPMENT.
04:39:15 AND THERE ARE 59 CAR SPACES AVAILABLE ON AN ALLEY THAT'S
04:39:22 ROUGHLY 585 FEET LONG, AND THAT'S A BUNCH.
04:39:25 THAT'S A BUNCH OF CARS.
04:39:27 AND I AM GOING TO DRILL DOWN EVEN FURTHER TO SHOW YOU FROM A
04:39:33 DOG'S EYE VIEW, IF YOU WILL, THIS IS IN THE ALLEY BEHIND --
04:39:39 AND YOU ARE LOOKING NORTH, AND IN THIS PICTURE HERE, AS YOU
04:39:45 CAN SEE, THIS ALLEY IS ONLY 11 FEET WIDE.
04:39:49 SO THERE'S ONLY ONE CAR THAT CAN BE ON THIS ALLEY MOVING
04:39:53 OUT.
04:39:54 AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS SIX ADDITIONAL CARS OR
04:39:58 VEHICLES, THAT'S NOW GOING TO PUT FORTH TO THIS CONGESTION.
04:40:04 AND BY THE WAY, I AM THE OWNER OF 406, THE PROPERTY JUST
04:40:08 SOUTH OF 404.
04:40:10 ON THIS PICTURE TO THE RIGHT HERE, YOU CAN SEE, IT'S TO THE
04:40:14 RIGHT OF THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT'S HERE, THIS IS AN
04:40:18 APARTMENT COMPLEX.
04:40:20 AGAIN, TO THE POINT THAT THE CONGESTION AND THE POTENTIAL
04:40:25 NIGHTMARE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THERE'S AN EVACUATION.
04:40:28 I TOOK A FEW STEPS MORE NORTH, MADE ANOTHER PICTURE, JUST
04:40:32 AGAIN TO SHOW AND DEMONSTRATE HEAR ON THE LEFT YOU CAN SEE
04:40:37 THE PROPOSED PROPERTY, AND THOSE WOULD BE THE ENTRANCES TO
04:40:45 THE TWO UNITS THAT ARE PROPOSED ON THIS LEFT SIDE.
04:40:48 RIGHT HERE, 11 FEET BEYOND, HERE ARE CARS THAT ARE PARKED.
04:40:53 NOW, AGAIN, IN AN EVACUATION, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF
04:41:00 HAWKS AND A LOT OF ISSUES AND A LOT OF DAMAGE THAT'S GOING
04:41:02 TO BE CAUSED, MUCH LESS THE SAFETY ASPECT OF THE THING.
04:41:05 SO HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES YOU A POINT.
04:41:08 THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE THAT I WILL DEMONSTRATE AGAIN MOVING
04:41:14 FURTHER NORTH, YOU CAN SEE 11 FEET.
04:41:15 THE ONE ON THE RIGHT HERE, PICTURE NUMBER 6, THERE IS A CAR
04:41:18 TRYING TO PULL OUT AND ALMOST HITTING THIS ELECTRICAL POLE
04:41:22 FROM THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX.
04:41:24 SO HOPEFULLY THIS GIVES YOU ENOUGH IN AND ENOUGH TO CONSIDER
04:41:29 NOT HAVING THIS BE REZONED TO A PD.
04:41:32 I APPRECIATE THE TIME.
04:41:39 I YIELD BACK.
04:41:40 >> THANK YOU.
04:41:42 IS -- NOT ONLINE?
04:41:47 MS. WELLS?
04:41:48 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
04:41:49 I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO MR.
04:41:52 BACON'S TESTIMONY.
04:41:53 HE DID TESTIFY WHEN THIS WAS HEARD ON JUNE 23rd, WITH
04:41:58 RESPECT TO THE PETITION THAT HE MENTIONED TODAY, GENERALLY
04:42:01 THE COURTS HAVE FOUND THAT PETITIONS SIGNED BY NEIGHBORS DO
04:42:05 NOT CONSTITUTE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE BECAUSE THE
04:42:08 NEIGHBORS AREN'T PRESENT TO TESTIFY.
04:42:10 YOU ALSO DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THE APPLICATION TO
04:42:14 CONSIST OF AT THE TIME THEY SIGNED THE PETITION, AND IF I
04:42:16 RECALL CORRECTLY, MR. BACON DID CONFIRM PREVIOUSLY THAT THE
04:42:21 PETITION WAS SIGNED BEFORE THE APPLICATION HAD BEEN REVISED,
04:42:26 AND WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU ON JUNE 23rd WAS MODIFIED.
04:42:31 SO I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THAT UP FOR THE RECORD.
04:42:34 AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE
04:42:36 PUBLIC THAT WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.
04:42:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND IF THERE IS NONE, I GATHER THERE'S NONE
04:42:43 IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS THAT WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS?
04:42:46 SEEING NONE, THERE IS NO ONE ON THE LINE.
04:42:51 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:42:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL, PLEASE.
04:42:59 >> THANK YOU.
04:43:00 RUSSELL OTTENBERG, ONCE AGAIN.
04:43:04 I BELIEVE MR. BACON'S PRESENTATION WAS LARGELY THE SAME AS
04:43:08 WHAT HE HAD PREPARED ON JUNE 23rd.
04:43:12 I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WAS SUB STANLEY DIFFERENT.
04:43:16 A COUPLE POINTS OF CLARIFICATION, THE ALLEY BEHIND THE
04:43:21 PROPOSED UNIT IS 20 FEET WIDE.
04:43:23 WE ARE GOING TO ENSURE IT IS 24-FOOT WIDE AS REQUIRED BY
04:43:26 CODE.
04:43:27 THERE'S NO WAIVERS REQUESTED.
04:43:32 WE CONTINUED THIS AS YOU RECALL PREVIOUSLY TO ELIMINATE ALL
04:43:35 THE WAIVERS.
04:43:37 I PUT UP ON THE OVERHEAD HERE A PICTURE.
04:43:40 THIS IS WHERE MR. BACON LIVES.
04:43:42 IT'S A DUPLEX IMMEDIATELY ADJOINING, I UNDERSTAND OPPOSED TO
04:43:50 THIS PROJECT AND THE SAFETY ISSUES APPARENTLY.
04:43:52 I GUESS THEY DIDN'T FEEL THERE WERE SAFETY ISSUES GOING FROM
04:43:56 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO A DUPLEX.
04:43:58 THAT ASIDE, I AM GOING BACK TO, I AM THINKING ABOUT A LOT OF
04:44:03 THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS HELD THIS MORNING ABOUT INCREASING
04:44:06 DENSITY IN THE CITY, PROVIDING MORE UNITS, MAKING MORE UNITS
04:44:11 AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE
04:44:14 OPPORTUNITIES.
04:44:17 THIS TYPE OF THING HAPPENS REGULARLY ON THIS SMALL SCALE
04:44:23 THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
04:44:24 IT IS COMMON ALONG SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE ON THE BLOCK FACE.
04:44:29 WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING HAS BEEN RULED TO BE CONSISTENT AND
04:44:32 COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT
04:44:38 PATTERN.
04:44:39 I HEARD NO TESTIMONY THAT SUPPORTED THIS AS A SAFETY ISSUE.
04:44:46 THAT SEEMS TO BE SPECULATIVE.
04:44:48 AND SO WITH THAT WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND VOTE
04:44:53 FOR APPROVAL FOR THIS PROJECT.
04:44:54 THANK YOU.
04:44:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
04:44:56 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
04:44:59 MANISCALCO.
04:44:59 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:45:01 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:45:02 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:45:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: REZ 21-130, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
04:45:16 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
04:45:19 IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 404 SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE IN THE
04:45:22 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
04:45:25 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16
04:45:27 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
04:45:30 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
04:45:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
04:45:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED
04:45:37 BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:45:38 PLEASE VOTE AND RECORD.
04:45:39 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND HURTAK VOTING
04:45:54 NO.
04:45:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14.
04:46:02 AB 2-21-21.
04:46:04 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
04:46:08 THIS IS BEING PRESENTED ON SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, FOR
04:46:12 A SPECIAL USE 2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE,
04:46:15 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY, AT THE LOCATION 2612 NORTH
04:46:20 TAMPA STREET.
04:46:22 SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF TO CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
04:46:25 HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
04:46:26 >> ANY QUESTIONS?
04:46:27 COMMENTS?
04:46:29 THANK YOU.
04:46:31 MS. MANDELL.
04:46:31 >>JULIA MANDELL: GOOD AFTERNOON.
04:46:34 JEWELRY MANDELL, GRAY ROBINSON, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET,
04:46:38 TAMPA, FLORIDA.
04:46:38 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, AND I APPRECIATE YOU
04:46:42 CONSIDERING THIS.
04:46:43 >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MANDELL?
04:46:46 IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY
04:46:48 COMMENTS?
04:46:51 THANK YOU.
04:46:52 HEARING NONE.
04:46:55 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY
04:46:58 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:46:59 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:47:02 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE NUMBER 114, FILE AB
04:47:06 2-21-21, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
04:47:11 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2
04:47:13 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON
04:47:17 PREMISES ONLY, AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
04:47:19 REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON
04:47:22 THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 2612
04:47:27 NORTH TAMPA STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY
04:47:30 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR
04:47:32 PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING
04:47:35 ORDINANCE NUMBER 2017-109, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
04:47:39 >> SECOND.
04:47:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED
04:47:43 BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:47:45 PLEASE VOTE AND RECORD.
04:47:53 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO AND
04:47:56 MANISCALCO BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
04:47:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:48:01 115, FILE AB 2-22-03.
04:48:04 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
04:48:09 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION FOR SPECIAL USE 2
04:48:12 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
04:48:16 PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION AT
04:48:22 LOCATION 456 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
04:48:24 SITE PLANS WERE TURNED INTO CITY CLERK.
04:48:26 HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
04:48:27 >> ANY QUESTIONS?
04:48:31 PETITIONER?
04:48:39 DO WE HAVE A PETITIONER?
04:48:42 IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK,
04:48:47 MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THIS?
04:48:51 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:48:53 SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:48:55 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:48:57 THANK YOU.
04:48:57 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:48:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 115, AB 2-22-03, MOVE AN
04:49:06 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
04:49:08 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR
04:49:11 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON
04:49:14 PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION AND
04:49:17 MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT
04:49:21 CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 456 WEST
04:49:25 COLUMBUS DRIVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
04:49:27 DESCRIBED FROM SECTION 3 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR
04:49:32 PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING
04:49:37 ORDINANCE NUMBER 20919-134, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
04:49:42 >> SECOND.
04:49:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED
04:49:48 BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:49:50 PLEASE VOTE AND RECORD.
04:49:50 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
04:50:01 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
04:50:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:50:03 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 116, FILE AB 22-AB 2-22-14.
04:50:10 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: THIS IS PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
04:50:15 ADOPTION FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
04:50:19 SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY AT THE
04:50:24 LOCATION 408 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE.
04:50:27 THE SITE PLANS WERE TURNED IN TO CITY CLERK.
04:50:30 HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
04:50:31 >> ANY QUESTIONS?
04:50:32 >> JIM PORTER, ACKERMAN, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, HERE TO
04:50:42 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
04:50:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD
04:50:45 LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENT?
04:50:47 SEEING NONE, MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY
04:50:50 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:50:51 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:50:53 THANK YOU.
04:50:53 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:50:54 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
04:50:56 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
04:50:58 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2
04:51:02 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON
04:51:05 PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
04:51:08 REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON
04:51:11 THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 408 SOUTH
04:51:14 HOWARD AVENUE TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
04:51:18 IN SECTION 3 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
04:51:21 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED REPEALING ORDINANCE
04:51:25 NUMBER 2013-84, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
04:51:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY
04:51:34 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:51:36 PLEASE VOTE AND RECORD.
04:51:36 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
04:51:47 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
04:51:48 >>JIM PORTER: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
04:51:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. PORTER.
04:51:53 MR. SHELBY.
04:51:54 OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM 117, FILE FDN 21-125-C.
04:52:05 I HAVE RECEIVED A TEXT FROM MR. CHRIS -- WHICH I HAVE SENT
04:52:13 IN TO MY E-MAIL AND WILL HAVE IT PRINTED FOR YOU.
04:52:21 I WISH TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT.
04:52:29 IT JUST SAYS THAT HE IS TOTALLY AGAINST IT.
04:52:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO YOU RECEIVED AN EX PARTE COMMUNICATION
04:52:42 AND YOU ARE DISCLOSING THAT PRIOR TO THIS HEARING?
04:52:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
04:52:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM A NORMAL
04:52:49 QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING AND THANK YOU FOR DISCLOSING THAT.
04:52:52 I WILL DEFER NOW TO THE PRESENTATION BY MS. PETTIS-MACKLE.
04:53:00 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
04:53:03 I HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS MATTER, IF WE COULD GO TO THE
04:53:06 PRESENTATION.
04:53:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND IF I CAN.
04:53:13 I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
04:53:14 BUT JUST WITH REGARD TO THAT, PLEASE HOLD THAT IN ABEYANCE,
04:53:17 AND YOUR DISCLOSURE, BECAUSE IT IS RELEVANT TO THIS
04:53:22 DISCUSSION.
04:53:30 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: WE HAVE A PRESENTATION.
04:53:33 I'M SORRY, I AM JUST WAITING FOR IT TO COME UP.
04:53:53 OKAY.
04:53:54 ITEM NUMBER 117 IS REGARDING FDN 21-125.
04:53:58 CODE SECTION 27-61 SUBSECTION J-1 PROVIDES THE PROCESS FOR
04:54:04 REVIEW HEARINGS REGARDING FORMAL DECISIONS OF THE ZONING
04:54:08 ADMINISTRATOR.
04:54:09 THIS HEARING IS DIFFERENT THAN OTHER REVIEW HEARINGS THAT
04:54:13 YOU NORMALLY HEAR FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
04:54:17 FIRST, THE DE NOVO HEARING THAT CITY COUNCIL NORMALLY
04:54:20 CONDUCTS, THAT CITY COUNCIL NORMALLY CONDUCTS ALREADY
04:54:25 OCCURRED, AND THAT OCCURRED BY HEARING OFFICER ON MAY
04:54:28 3rd, 2022.
04:54:30 THIS ITEM IS ONLY BEFORE YOU TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDED
04:54:34 ORDER BY THE HEARING OFFICER.
04:54:37 SECONDLY, CITY COUNCIL MAY ONLY ALLOW PUBLIC DISCUSSION UPON
04:54:43 A REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT BY A PARTY OR UPON YOUR OWN
04:54:47 MOTION.
04:54:48 CITY COUNCIL MAY ONLY OPEN THE MEETINGS FOR ORAL ARGUMENT IF
04:54:53 CITY COUNCIL FINDS THAT THE HEARING OFFICER DID NOT ADDRESS
04:54:57 A MATTER INTRODUCED INTO THE RECORD, OR THE RECOMMENDED
04:55:00 ORDER CONTAINS AN AMBIGUITY.
04:55:03 PARTIES MUST FILE THEIR REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENTS WITH THE
04:55:07 FILINGS OF ANY EXCEPTIONS.
04:55:10 IN THIS MATTER, CITY COUNCIL, THERE HAVE BEEN NO REQUESTS
04:55:13 FOR ORAL ARGUMENT, AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN A FILING OF ANY
04:55:17 EXCEPTIONS.
04:55:18 IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES A REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT, THE
04:55:22 CONTENT OF THE TESTIMONY MUST BE THE SAME AS WHICH IT WAS
04:55:26 PRESENTED TO THE HEARING OFFICER.
04:55:31 NO PERSON CAN SUBMIT NEW EVIDENCE IF CITY COUNCIL ALLOWS
04:55:35 PUBLIC COMMENT, OR ORAL ARGUMENT.
04:55:40 PREVIOUSLY CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS: A
04:55:45 COPY OF THE MATERIALS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO THE HEARING
04:55:47 OFFICER DURING THE DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING, THE RECOMMENDED
04:55:50 ORDER, THE RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS AND SAMPLE MOTIONS.
04:55:53 THE ISSUE BEFORE THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR IS WHETHER OR NOT
04:55:57 THE PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE RETAINED THE ORIGINAL YC-6 ZONING
04:56:02 CLASSIFICATION AND NOT THE CURRENT YC-7 ZONING
04:56:06 CLASSIFICATION.
04:56:08 THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR DETERMINED THAT A TIMELY REQUEST
04:56:11 WAS MADE FOR THE PROPERTY TO RETAIN THE ORIGINAL ZONING
04:56:16 CLASSIFICATION YC-6.
04:56:18 THE HEARING OFFICER REVIEWED AND AGREED WITH THE ZONING
04:56:22 ADMINISTRATOR THAT THE PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE RETAINED THE
04:56:25 ORIGINAL YC-6 ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
04:56:30 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1916 AND 1918 EAST 5th
04:56:35 AVENUE, ORIGINALLY ZONED YC-6.
04:56:39 ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF YC-6 ALLOWS FOR PRINCIPAL USE OF
04:56:44 PARKING LOTS.
04:56:46 AND IN 2000 THE CITY INITIATED AN AREA WIDE REZONING.
04:56:53 AND IT WAS THE POLICY OF THE CITY TO ALLOW PROPERTIES TO OPT
04:56:56 OUT OF THE REZONING DESIGNATION PROCESS.
04:56:59 SIMILAR REQUESTS WERE MADE FOR OTHER PROPERTIES WHICH WERE
04:57:03 EXCLUDED FROM THE AREA WIDE REZONING.
04:57:05 IN THIS INSTANCE, DESPITE A LETTER THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE
04:57:08 CITY, DATED MARCH 8th, 2000, THE PROPERTY WAS
04:57:12 INADVERTENTLY CHANGED TO A ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF YC-7.
04:57:16 A YC-7 ZONING CLASSIFICATION DOES NOT ALLOW FOR PRINCIPAL
04:57:21 USE PROPERTY.
04:57:28 THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THIS FORM FOR THIS APPLICATION FILED
04:57:33 THE FORMAL DECISION REQUESTING DETERMINATION REGARDING
04:57:37 WHETHER OR NOT THE PARKING LOTS WERE PERMITTED PRINCIPLE USE
04:57:41 AT 1916 AND 1918 EAST 5th AVENUE.
04:57:44 THE FORMAL DECISION BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR ON AUGUST
04:57:48 30, 2021, DETERMINED THERE WAS A TIMELY REQUEST TO EXCLUDE
04:57:53 THE PROPERTY FROM THE CITY INITIATED AREA WIDE REZONING.
04:57:57 THE PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE RETAINED ITS ORIGINAL REZONING
04:57:59 CLASSIFICATION OF YC-6 WHICH ALLOWS FOR PRINCIPAL USE
04:58:03 PARKING LOTS.
04:58:04 MR. CROWDER STATED ONCE THE ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS ON THE
04:58:08 LOTS ARE CORRECTED, THE PROPERTIES MUST COMPLY WITH THE CITY
04:58:14 CODE REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS PROVIDING THE REQUIRED SIGNAGE,
04:58:17 PAVED DRIVE AISLES, AND BUMPER STOPS.
04:58:19 AGAIN, THIS IS A DECISION THAT THE HEARING OFFICER REVIEWED
04:58:23 AND AGREED THAT THE PROPERTIES SHOULD HAVE RETAINED THE
04:58:26 ORIGINAL YC-6 ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
04:58:34 THE PETITION -- THE PETITION REGARDING THE FORMAL DECISION,
04:58:38 PETITION FOR REVIEW WAS FILED BY JOSEPH COLDWELL REGARDING
04:58:42 THE AUGUST 30, 2021 DECISION.
04:58:45 AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING WAS CONDUCTED
04:58:49 BY A HEARING OFFICER ON MAY 3rd, 2022.
04:58:52 AT THAT DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING THE HEARING OFFICER TOOK
04:58:57 SWORN TESTIMONY, RECEIVED DOCUMENTS, AND TOOK PUBLIC
04:59:00 COMMENT.
04:59:02 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW, THE
04:59:05 HEARING OFFICER RECOMMENDS UPHOLDING THE ZONING
04:59:08 ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION THAT DETERMINED THE PROPERTY SHOULD
04:59:12 HAVE RETAINED THE YC-6 ZONING THAT ALLOWS FOR PRINCIPAL
04:59:16 PARKING USE.
04:59:18 ADDITIONALLY, THE HEARING OFFICER FURTHER RECOMMENDS THAT
04:59:23 CITY COUNCIL TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION TO RECLASSIFY THE ZONING
04:59:25 OF THE PROPERTIES TO YC-6.
04:59:27 I WILL BRING THAT ACTION -- THAT ACTION ITEM TO CORRECT THE
04:59:35 ZONING PROPERTIES AT A LATER DATE.
04:59:43 NOW GOING BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ACTION.
04:59:46 THIS ITEM JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU
04:59:50 REGARDING THE HEARING OFFICER'S DETERMINATION THAT THE
04:59:54 DECISION BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, THAT THE PROPERTY
04:59:57 SHOULD HAVE RETAINED THE ORIGINAL YC-6 ZONING
04:59:59 CLASSIFICATION, BECAUSE THERE WAS A TIMELY QUARTERBACK TO BE
05:00:03 EXCLUDED FROM THE CITY INITIATED AREA WIDE REZONING.
05:00:08 BASED UPON THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE HEARING OFFICER AND
05:00:11 THE FACT THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO REQUESTS FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
05:00:15 AND THERE'S BEEN NO EXCEPTIONS FAILED, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN
05:00:20 TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTION.
05:00:21 ADOPT THE RECOMMENDED ORDER AS THE FINAL ORDER.
05:00:25 MODIFY THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
05:00:27 OR REJECT THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
05:00:30 JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU REGARDING THE
05:00:34 ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF THESE LOTS.
05:00:36 THIS IS NOT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THESE LOTS SHOULD BE
05:00:41 PARKING LOTS.
05:00:42 IT'S ONLY REGARDING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF THE TWO
05:00:46 PROPERTIES.
05:00:50 AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO REQUESTS FOR
05:00:54 ORAL ARGUMENTS OR EXCEPTIONS FAILED.
05:00:57 ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS NO PROVISION IN THE CODE THAT
05:01:00 ADDRESSES PUBLIC COMMENT, WHEN A PERSON DOES NOT PARTICIPATE
05:01:05 AT THE REVIEW HEARING OR DURING THE OPEN RECORD PERIOD OF
05:01:08 THE FORMAL DECISION.
05:01:10 SO I JUST WANT CITY COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
05:01:14 AND I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE SAMPLE MOTIONS, AND IT IS THE
05:01:19 CITY'S RECOMMENDATION THAT CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE
05:01:21 RECOMMENDED ORDER AS THE FINAL ORDER.
05:01:23 >> BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON, COUNCILMAN VIERA, I
05:01:28 JUST NEED CLARIFICATION.
05:01:30 AND I AM GOING TO YOU, MR. SHELBY I. YES.
05:01:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ORAL ARGUMENTS.
05:01:37 IS PUBLIC COMMENT CONSIDERED ORAL ARGUMENTS?
05:01:44 AND IF THE MAGISTRATE IS REQUESTING WE TAKE NO ORAL
05:01:48 ARGUMENTS, OR THAT IS A LEGAL OPINION, DOES THIS COUNCIL
05:01:53 HAVE THE RIGHT TO WAIVE THAT AND ACCEPT ORAL ARGUMENT?
05:01:59 EXCUSE ME, PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:02:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ANSWER TO THE LAST PART OF YOUR
05:02:04 QUESTION IS, NO, SIR, YOU CANNOT WAIVE IT.
05:02:08 THIS IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL -- EXCUSE ME -- THIS IS NOT YOUR
05:02:13 TYPICAL PUBLIC HEARING.
05:02:15 THIS IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL REVIEW HEARING.
05:02:17 THIS IS A DETERMINATION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE
05:02:21 RECOMMENDED ORDER BY THE HEARING OFFICER THAT DENIED THE
05:02:25 PETITION FOR REVIEW.
05:02:26 IN OTHER WORDS, THIS IS -- YOUR REVIEW HEARING, THE REVIEW
05:02:31 HEARING HAS ALREADY BANE TAKEN PLACE.
05:02:33 AND THE HEARING OFFICER MADE THE RECOMMENDATION, AND THE
05:02:40 RECOMMENDATION YOU HAVE IS PART OF THE RECORD, AND IF YOU
05:02:45 WISH TO HAVE ORAL ARGUMENT, THE RECALL STATES YOU CAN ONLY
05:02:54 ALLOW PUBLIC DISCUSSION UPON A REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
05:02:58 FILED BY A PARTY OR UPON ITS OWN MOTION, AND AS MS.
05:03:02 PETTIS-MACKLE TOLD YOU, N.E.A.T. OF THAT WAS DONE.
05:03:05 AND NOW CITY COUNCIL MAY ONLY OPEN THE MEETING FOR ORAL
05:03:10 ARGUMENT IF CITY COUNCIL FIND THAT HEARING OFFICER, WITHIN
05:03:13 THAT RECOMMENDATION, DID NOT ADDRESS A MATTER INTRODUCED
05:03:17 INTO THE RECORD, OR THE RECOMMENDED ORDER CONTAINS AN
05:03:21 AMBIGUITY, AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE, SIR, AND CITY COUNCIL,
05:03:26 STATED WITH SPECIFIES IN ORDER TO TAKE ORAL ARGUMENT.
05:03:29 OTHERWISE, CITY COUNCIL, ORAL ARGUMENT PER THIS PARTICULAR
05:03:33 SECTION OF THE CODE IS NOT PERMITTED UNLESS YOU MAKE A
05:03:35 SPECIFIC FINDING.
05:03:36 >> THEN I WILL ASK THE QUESTION A DIFFERENT WAY.
05:03:41 AGAIN, ORAL ARGUE SUMMIT NOT PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:03:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:03:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY -- AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO
05:03:51 CLARIFY THAT, BECAUSE I SEE NINE PEOPLE ONLINE THAT WANT TO
05:03:56 SPEAK TONIGHT, I AM GUESSING THERE ARE A COUPLE PEOPLE IN
05:03:58 THIS CHAMBERS THAT WANT TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:04:01 AND I JUST WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT TAKING PUBLIC
05:04:04 COMMENT DURING THIS DISCUSSION.
05:04:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNLESS OF COURSE, SIR, COUNCIL THE CODE
05:04:12 REQUIREMENTS WITH REFERENCE TO THE HEARING, THE RECOMMENDED
05:04:15 ORDER.
05:04:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOW WOULD YOU SUGGEST THAT THAT HAPPEN?
05:04:21 BEING OUR LEGAL ADVISER.
05:04:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU MAKE REFERENCE TO THE ORDER.
05:04:30 I DON'T SEE HOW ELSE YOU CAN DO IT.
05:04:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:04:40 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
05:04:44 THE FIRST ONE YOU CAN TELL ME IF I AM NOT ALLOWED TO ASK IT.
05:04:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAIT A SECOND.
05:04:50 ANYTHING THAT'S TAKEN, AND MRS. PETTIS-MACKLE WAS AT THE
05:04:55 REVIEW HEARING, AND THE REPRESENTATIVE IS ALSO HERE.
05:05:01 THE PROPERTY OWNER FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS NOT.
05:05:05 BUT THAT BEING --
05:05:08 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PROPERTY
05:05:09 OWNER IS HERE.
05:05:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THAT BEING THE CASE, THE EX PARTE
05:05:14 COMMUNICATIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN SHOULD NOT BE
05:05:19 CONSIDERED, BECAUSE THAT IS OUTSIDE THE --
05:05:22 >>BILL CARLSON: MY QUESTION IS ABOUT WHAT SHE JUST SAID.
05:05:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
05:05:25 >>BILL CARLSON: FORGIVE ME IF I GET THIS WRONG.
05:05:27 I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
05:05:28 THE FIRST ONE -- AND AGAIN, I MIGHT PARAPHRASE THIS THE
05:05:33 WRONG WAY -- BUT WHAT WAS, WHAT IS IT, YC-7 --
05:05:37 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED YC --
05:05:41 >>BILL CARLSON: SOMEHOW IT WAS ACCIDENTALLY MOVED TO YC-7.
05:05:43 ARE YOU ABLE TO TELL US A LITTLE MORE ABOUT HOW THAT
05:05:46 HAPPENED AND WHY?
05:05:48 >> ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THE PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY
05:05:51 ZONED YC-6.
05:05:53 THE PROPERTY OWNER OR -- A LETTER WAS RECEIVED AT THE
05:05:57 REQUEST OF THE CITY TO OPT OUT DOCUMENTING THE REQUEST TO
05:06:01 OPT OUT OF AREA WIDE REZONING.
05:06:03 THAT PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED, AND SOMEHOW INADVERTENTLY THE
05:06:09 PROPERTY STILL WAS RECLASSIFIED AS YC-7.
05:06:14 AGAIN, THAT OCCURRED IN 2000.
05:06:16 I DON'T KNOW --
05:06:18 >>BILL CARLSON: THE SECOND QUESTION, AND I DON'T REMEMBER
05:06:20 ALL THE WORDS.
05:06:21 IT'S LATE IN THE DAY.
05:06:22 BUT BETWEEN WHAT YOU AND MARTY SAID, THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC
05:06:26 GUIDELINES AS TO WHETHER WE CAN OPEN THIS BACK UP, AND
05:06:32 SEEING THE E-MAILS THAT WE GOT WHICH IS ABOUT A DIFFERENT
05:06:34 ISSUE, AS YOU SAID, WE CANNOT HEAR THE SUBSTANCE OF WHAT
05:06:39 THIS LAND SHOULD BE USED FOR, THIS PARTICULAR RULING, AND
05:06:44 WHETHER WE CAN -- WHETHER THERE'S ANY JUSTIFICATION TO OPEN
05:06:48 UP.
05:06:50 I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY EVIDENCE THAT IS AN EXEMPTION OR ANY
05:06:53 KIND OF EXCEPTION THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO OPEN IT UP.
05:06:57 AND IT SOUND LIKE FROM WHAT YOU AND MARTY SAID, NO ONE HAS
05:07:00 PRESENTED ANY JUSTIFICATION FOR US TO OPEN IT BACK UP.
05:07:03 SO IS THERE ANYTHING -- IS THERE ANY JUSTIFICATION FOR US TO
05:07:11 OPEN IT UP THAT YOU DIDN'T TALK ABOUT, OR SEEMS LIKE WE ARE
05:07:15 COMPELLED TO JUST APPROVE IT AS IS, BECAUSE THERE'S NO LEGAL
05:07:18 JUSTIFICATION TO OPEN IT.
05:07:19 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
05:07:22 WHAT I CAN SAY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN
05:07:26 NO EXCEPTIONS FILED REGARDING THIS MATTER, AND JUST FOR YOUR
05:07:31 INFORMATION, EXCEPTIONS, IF THEY WERE FILED, PER THE CODE,
05:07:37 THEY CONSIST OF ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE FINDINGS OF FACT OR
05:07:40 CONCLUSIONS OF LAW CONTAINED IN THE RECOMMENDED ORDER, AND
05:07:43 THERE HAVE BEEN NO EXCEPTIONS FILED REGARDING THIS MATTER,
05:07:46 AND NO REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
05:07:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THE QUESTION, COUNCIL, IS WHETHER THE
05:07:56 MATTER -- IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT INTRODUCED INTO
05:08:02 THE RECORD, DID NOT ADDRESS A MATTER INTO THE RECORD, OR THE
05:08:07 RECOMMENDED ORDER CONTAINS AN AMBIGUITY, A AND THIS WOULD BE
05:08:10 COUNCIL'S DECISION, OR COUNCIL'S BASIS, THE SOLE BASIS FOR
05:08:15 BEING ABLE TO OPEN IT UP FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
05:08:18 IT'S DIFFERENT THAN YOUR REGULAR REVIEW HEARING.
05:08:25 OF COURSE, WE ARE CITING A SECTION 27-61-J.
05:08:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:08:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, JUST VERY BRIEFLY.
05:08:42 I WANT TO DISCLOSE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS YESTERDAY OR
05:08:46 BEFORE, I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM GIONA MUCARINO, WHO WE
05:08:54 DIDN'T HAVE ANY SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION OR ANYTHING OF THAT
05:08:56 NATURE ON IT.
05:08:59 WHEN I ADVISED HIM THIS WAS SOMETHING I COULDN'T DISCUSS,
05:09:02 ET CETERA, JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE.
05:09:04 THAT'S ALL.
05:09:04 THANK YOU.
05:09:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:09:08 >>BILL CARLSON: I FORGOT THE NAME, SORRY, IN THE BEGINNING
05:09:12 FOR THE PETITION, MR. CAMPBELL OR SOMETHING -- MR. CALDWELL,
05:09:17 IN HIS REQUEST FOR US TO RECONSIDER THIS, WAS THERE ANY
05:09:22 EXEMPTION OR JUSTIFICATION PRESENTED THAT WE COULD USE TO
05:09:26 OPEN IT UP?
05:09:30 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: COUNCIL CARLSON, JUST TO CLARIFY,
05:09:33 THE REVIEW HEARING ALREADY OCCURRED, AND THE PETITIONER DID
05:09:38 PARTICIPATE DURING THAT REVIEW HEARING, BUT SINCE THE REVIEW
05:09:42 HEARING, THERE'S BEEN NO EXCEPTIONS FILED.
05:09:45 THERE'S A TIMELINE OR DEADLINE WHICH EXCEPTIONS CAN BE
05:09:48 FILED, AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO EXCEPTIONS FILED BY THE
05:09:50 PETITIONER.
05:09:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:09:59 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: AND I PROVIDED THE SAMPLE MOTION
05:10:08 ALSO FOR CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THIS MATTER.
05:10:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY, IT SOUNDED AS IF MR. SHELBY
05:10:21 WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT?
05:10:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR, THANK YOU.
05:10:33 >> I AM STARTING TO SEE PEOPLE STARTING TO STAND UP.
05:10:36 WE CAN'T ASK FOR PETITIONER.
05:10:37 ALL WE ARE DOING IS GOING BY WHAT THE MAGISTRATE HAS GIVEN
05:10:40 US.
05:10:43 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
05:10:45 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD SAY THIS.
05:10:53 IF THIS WAS A LAND USE HEARING, IT WOULD BE A COMPLETELY
05:10:56 DIFFERENT CONVERSATION, AND WE WOULD BE HEARING FROM THE
05:10:58 PUBLIC, AND WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING EVERYTHING THE PUBLIC
05:11:00 SAID.
05:11:01 BUT CONSIDERING WHAT THE LEGAL, BOTH LEGAL COUNSELORS HAVE
05:11:05 TOLD US, OUR OWN AND THE CITY, THERE'S NOTHING HAS BEEN
05:11:09 PRESENTED, UNLESS MY COLLEAGUES HEARD SOMETHING, THERE'S
05:11:13 NOTHING PRESENTED TO OPEN IT BACK UP.
05:11:16 SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY CHOICE WE HAVE IS TO ADOPT A
05:11:20 RECOMMENDED ORDER AS THE FINAL ORDER.
05:11:22 IS THAT THE ONE?
05:11:24 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THAT IS WHAT THE CITY IS ASKING,
05:11:26 UNLESS CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO --
05:11:28 >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL MAKE THIS MOTION AND SEE WHAT
05:11:30 HAPPENS.
05:11:30 I MOVE TO ADOPT THE HEARING OFFICER'S RECOMMENDED ORDER THAT
05:11:33 DENIED THE PETITION FOR REVIEW AND AFFIRMED THE FORMAL
05:11:39 DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR FOR FDN 21-125.
05:11:44 SHOULD I SAY C OR NOT?
05:11:46 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: YES.
05:11:49 >>BILL CARLSON: 125-C.
05:11:58 AND THE REASON IS THAT NO EVIDENCE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO
05:12:01 JUSTIFY OPENING UP.
05:12:02 WE HAVE NO LEGAL BASIS TO REOPEN IT.
05:12:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNLESS COUNCIL FEELS ACCORDING TO THE
05:12:12 CODE, UNLESS COUNCIL FEELS THAT THE HEARING OFFICER DID NOT
05:12:15 ADDRESS A MATTER INTRODUCED INTO THE RECORD, OR THE
05:12:17 RECOMMENDED ORDER CONTAINS AN AMBIGUITY.
05:12:19 ALL THE FINDINGS OF FACT HAVE BEEN HEARD AT THE REVIEW
05:12:24 HEARING, AND THAT IS WHAT THE HEARING OFFICER -- EXCUSE ME,
05:12:28 THE HEARING OFFICER DID, AND NOW COUNCIL CANNOT REWEIGH THE
05:12:34 FINDINGS OF FACT OR THE EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED.
05:12:38 AND THAT AS A MATTER OF FACT MS. PETTIS-MACKLE WOULD HAVE TO
05:12:42 MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS -- EVIDENCE THAT HAD NOT BEEN
05:12:47 PRESENTED AT THE REVIEW HEARING.
05:12:48 IT'S A VERY INTERESTING PROVISION OF THE CODE.
05:12:50 IT'S DIFFERENT.
05:12:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHY IS THIS EVEN HERE?
05:12:58 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: IT'S HERE COUNCIL GUDES BECAUSE
05:13:01 THERE STILL HAS TO BE FINAL ACTION ON THE RECOMMENDED ORDER
05:13:04 BY THE HEARING OFFICER.
05:13:05 THE HEARING OFFICER PRESENTED THE REVIEW HEARING THAT CITY
05:13:09 COUNCIL TRADITIONALLY DOES BUT THIS IS A PROCESS THAT'S
05:13:12 DIFFERENT FROM YOUR TRADITIONAL REVIEW HEARINGS, SO THE LAST
05:13:16 ACTION THAT HAS TO OCCUR IS FOR THE RECOMMENDED ORDER TO
05:13:18 BE -- TO OCCUR ON THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
05:13:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO I GET IT.
05:13:25 SO BASICALLY, IT'S ALREADY BEEN HEARD, WE JUST RUBBER STAMP
05:13:29 IT AND SAID IT WAS DONE PROPERLY, WE ARE DONE.
05:13:32 CORRECT?
05:13:34 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL,
05:13:36 CORRECT.
05:13:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM TALKING TO MYSELF OUTLOUD.
05:13:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT THE PROVISIONS SAID, THE PARAMETERS
05:13:44 OF THIS COUNCIL, WE ARE BASICALLY RUBBER STAMPING.
05:13:48 AND THE FACTS ARE THERE.
05:13:49 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: AND IF CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO ADOPT
05:13:52 IT AS THE FINAL ORDER, YES.
05:13:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A RUBBER STAMP.
05:13:57 THE QUESTION IS WHETHER CITY COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO
05:14:00 REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THE QUESTION IS WHETHER IT
05:14:03 MEETS THE CODE CRITERIA.
05:14:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW CAN YOU DO THAT, MARTY, WHEN WHAT
05:14:09 SHE'S SAYING IS IT'S ALREADY OCCURRED, AND IT'S HERE FOR US
05:14:14 TO SAY, OKAY, WE AGREE THAT HIS FINDINGS ARE IN ORDER,
05:14:18 AND --
05:14:23 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: JUST TO CLARIFY, MR. SHELBY, THAT
05:14:26 THIS IS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDED
05:14:30 ORDER.
05:14:31 IF CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO HEAR ORAL ARGUMENTS, THEN YOU CAN
05:14:38 ONLY OPEN THE MEETING FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
05:14:41 IF CITY COUNCIL FINDS THE HEARING OFFICER DID NOT ADDRESS A
05:14:43 MATTER INTRODUCED INTO THE RECORD, OR THE RECOMMENDED ORDER
05:14:47 CONTAINS AN AMBIGUITY.
05:14:50 I WAS REFERENCING THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO REQUESTS FOR ORAL
05:14:53 ARGUMENTS, OR THERE HAVE BEEN NO EXCEPTIONS FILED.
05:14:57 AS SUCH, THE CITY IS ASKING FOR THE ACTION OF THE HEARING
05:15:04 OFFICER TO ARE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL ORDER.
05:15:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FINAL ORDER.
05:15:10 THAT'S IT.
05:15:11 >>BILL CARLSON: AGAIN, FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO SPEAK ON
05:15:13 THIS, THIS IS NOT A REGULAR ZONING DISCUSSION, BUT YOU SAID
05:15:18 THAT -- AND REALLY ALL IT'S DOING IS RETURNING IT TO WHAT IT
05:15:22 WAS BEFORE THIS MISTAKE HAPPENED, BUT IF THIS GOES BACK TO
05:15:28 YC-6, THEN YOU SAID AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE YOU ARE
05:15:31 GOING TO COME BACK TO US ABOUT APPROVAL FOR USE AS A PARKING
05:15:36 LOT.
05:15:36 IS THAT CORRECT?
05:15:38 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I WILL BE COMING BACK TO CORRECT
05:15:39 THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
05:15:42 THE USE OF THE PROPERTY HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED.
05:15:46 SO I WOULD BE COMING BACK TO ADDRESS CORRECTING THE ZONING
05:15:51 CLASSIFICATION.
05:15:52 >>BILL CARLSON: SO WHEN YOU COME BACK TO US, IS IT THE SAME
05:15:54 KIND OF PROCESS OR A PROCESS WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE
05:15:57 INPUT?
05:15:59 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THAT WILL BE -- HOLD ON ONE
05:16:02 SECOND.
05:16:09 I WOULD BRING IT BACK AS A SCRIVENER'S ERROR TO CORRECT THE
05:16:12 ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
05:16:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:16:20 AND I ALWAYS ON ISSUES WHERE THE PUBLIC IS VERY PASSIONATE,
05:16:24 ALWAYS LIKE TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, AND IT
05:16:27 WOULD APPEAR FROM WHAT WE ARE BEING TOLD, IRRESPECTIVE OF
05:16:31 HOW I MAY FEEL ON THE UNDERLYING ISSUE, WITH YOU I WON'T GET
05:16:34 INTO, I DO HAVE SENTIMENTS ON THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT TO
05:16:39 REOPEN THIS, AND TO HAVE A READJUDICATION OF IT, WHATEVER
05:16:45 YOU WANT TO CALL IT, A REALLY HIGH STANDARD IT WOULD APPEAR
05:16:48 WITH THE INFORMATION GIVEN WE ARE UNABLE TO MEET TO REOPEN
05:16:51 IT WITH THE INFORMATION.
05:16:52 SO I THINK AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THE PATH IS PUT FORWARD,
05:16:57 IRRESPECTIVE OF MY PERSONAL SENTIMENTS ON THE UNDERLYING
05:17:00 ISSUE.
05:17:01 I HATE TO SAY AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL MY HANDS ARE TIED, BUT
05:17:05 IT WOULD APPEAR WITH THAT HEY STANDARD, THERE'S VERY LITTLE
05:17:09 WIGGLE ROOM THERE.
05:17:10 JUST MY THOUGHTS.
05:17:10 >> ANYONE ELSE?
05:17:20 >> THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED BY THE SPECIAL
05:17:23 MAGISTRATE THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
05:17:25 SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
05:17:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T THINK ANY OF US KNOWS WHAT WAS
05:17:33 ADDRESSED AT THIS MEETING.
05:17:37 EXCUSE ME, SIR.
05:17:38 RESPECTFULLY.
05:17:39 IF WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT YOUR
05:17:42 ORAL ARGUMENT IS GOING TO BE CORRECT?
05:17:44 I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT.
05:17:45 >> SURELY AN OPEN MEETING, WITH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE --
05:17:53 >> YOU CAN EXPLAIN, BUT AGAIN, PLEASE DON'T TAN THIS
05:17:55 SERIOUSLY BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE SAYING IT VERBATIM AND
05:17:58 IT'S TRUE.
05:17:59 PLEASE DON'T TAKE DISRESPECT TO THAT.
05:18:02 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MR. CHAIR, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE
05:18:09 FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE E.WAS IN ATTENDANCE AT THE
05:18:12 REVIEW HEARING.
05:18:12 I AM AWARE OF WHAT THE WITNESSES TESTIFIED TO.
05:18:15 I'M AWARE OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED ON THE RECORD.
05:18:18 AND I'M AWARE OF WHAT THE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS.
05:18:22 BUT WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN IS ASKING FOR IS A REQUEST FOR
05:18:25 EXCEPTIONS, AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN FILED IN THIS MATTER.
05:18:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.
05:18:34 PLEASE.
05:18:34 >> [OFF MICROPHONE] WE WEREN'T GIVEN NOTICE.
05:18:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.
05:18:39 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
05:18:44 PLEASE.
05:18:44 THANK YOU.
05:18:52 COUNCIL HURTAK.
05:18:52 >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS REALLY FRUSTRATING.
05:18:59 IT WAS FRUSTRATING THE LAST TIME ONE OF THESE WAS BROUGHT IN
05:19:02 FRONT OF US BECAUSE WE DON'T ACTUALLY GET THE DETAILS.
05:19:06 WE ARE JUST GETTING -- I WOULD REALLY -- NORMALLY WE HAVE
05:19:09 ALL THIS INFORMATION, AND ALL WE ARE GETTING IS THAT FACTS
05:19:13 WERE HEARD, AND THE INFORMATION FOR THIS ITEM WAS PROVIDED
05:19:20 TO CITY COUNCIL.
05:19:22 IT'S IN SIRE.
05:19:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:19:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO WE ARE LOOKING AT ONE OF SIX, ONE OF
05:19:31 SEVEN, RIGHT?
05:19:32 AND BOTH MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS, CORRECT?
05:19:35 >> I'M SORRY?
05:19:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SIX AND SEVEN.
05:19:39 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: OH, YC-6 AND YC-7, YES.
05:19:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO SOME COUNCIL IN THE PAST HAD TO MAKE
05:19:46 A DETERMINATION, SOME MAP THAT SOMEBODY DREW 10, 15, 20
05:19:50 YEARS AGO, AM I CORRECT?
05:19:51 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: YES.
05:19:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO WHAT YOU ARE TELLING US THAT
05:19:57 SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, WHATEVER E-I DON'T KNOW WHAT
05:20:02 HAPPENED.
05:20:02 I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YEAR THAT WAS.
05:20:05 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THE CITY INITIATED AN AREA-WIDE
05:20:08 REZONING IN 2000.
05:20:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:20:21 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WASN'T QUITE FINISHED WITH MY QUESTION.
05:20:24 MY QUESTION IS, WHERE IN THE PROCEEDINGS DOES THE PUBLIC
05:20:29 KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TEN WORKING DAYS --
05:20:34 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: IT'S IN THE CODE.
05:20:36 >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT THEY ARE NOT INFORMED OF THE ACTUAL
05:20:38 MEETING?
05:20:40 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THE PROCESS IS OUTLINED IN THE
05:20:41 CODE.
05:20:43 >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, THEN, I MEAN, WE OFTEN TELL DURING OUR
05:20:47 HEARINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TIME TO REBUT, SO MAYBE WE SHOULD
05:20:52 LOOK AT THAT?
05:20:53 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: ACTUALLY, COUNCIL HURTAK, THE
05:20:56 PETITIONER JOSEPH CALDWELL HAD LEGAL REPRESENTATION, THERE
05:21:00 WAS AN ATTORNEY PRESENT AT THE HEARING, AND THAT'S WHO I
05:21:03 HAVE BEEN SPEAKING WITH.
05:21:05 >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
05:21:07 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: SO JUSTIN HUGHES REPRESENTED THEM
05:21:14 AT THE HEARING AND THAT'S WHO I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING WITH.
05:21:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND WE HAVE NO OTHER OPTION.
05:21:19 WE CANNOT SEND IT BACK TO THE MAGISTRATE.
05:21:22 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THERE ARE PARAMETERS IN WHICH
05:21:24 AGAIN, YOUR SAMPLE MOTION PROVIDES PARAMETERS, IF CITY
05:21:28 COUNCIL WANTS TO REJECT THE RECOMMENDED ORDER, THAT
05:21:31 INFORMATION IS ON YOUR SAMPLE MOTION.
05:21:34 CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT REJECT ANY FINDINGS OF FACT REACHED BY
05:21:37 THE HEARING OFFICER.
05:21:39 IF CITY COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT A FINDING OF FACT IS NOT
05:21:42 BASED UPON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, CONTAINED IN THE
05:21:45 RECORD, OR THAT THE FILING DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE
05:21:48 ESSENTIAL REQUIREMENTS OF LAW, CITY COUNCIL MAY REMAND THE
05:21:51 MATTER BACK TO THE HEARING OFFICER, BUT ONLY IF IT
05:21:55 DETERMINES THAT ADDITIONAL FACT FINDING IS REQUIRED.
05:21:58 THAT'S THE PARAMETER.
05:22:00 ACCORDING TO THE CODE.
05:22:01 >> FORGIVE ME FOR SOUNDING IGNORANT, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE
05:22:04 FACTS IN FRONT OF ME.
05:22:07 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: YOU WOULD KNOW, YOU WOULD GET MORE
05:22:10 INSIGHT IF THERE WERE FILINGS FOR AN EXCEPTION REGARDING
05:22:13 THIS.
05:22:13 AND THERE WERE NO EXCEPTIONS FILED IN THIS MATTER.
05:22:16 >> IT SEEMS LIKE THE DOG IS CHASING ITS TAIL ON THIS.
05:22:25 I APOLOGIZE.
05:22:26 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:22:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SEEMS LIKE -- YOU ARE SAYING IT'S IN THE
05:22:36 CODE, AND TEN DAYS, ALL YOU CAN GET IS AN EXCEPTION IF YOU
05:22:40 FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES FOR THE EXCEPTION.
05:22:42 CORRECT?
05:22:43 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THAT'S CORRECT.
05:22:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO NO GUIDELINES TO GET AN EXCEPTION TO
05:22:52 CONSIDER TO REOPEN, TO MODIFY OR REJECT ANYTHING, BECAUSE
05:22:56 RIGHT NOW ALL WE CAN GO BY IS WHAT IS ALREADY RULED ON, AND
05:23:01 BASICALLY AGAIN, IT'S JUST US SAYING HEAR ARE THE FACTS LAID
05:23:06 OUT, THERE IS NO OTHER EXCEPTIONS TO LOOK AT, AND SO ALL
05:23:11 THIS COUNCIL CAN DO AT THIS POINT IS, HATE TO SAY IT, THE
05:23:18 YC-7 AND MOVE ON BECAUSE WE HAVE NO OTHER FACTS OR
05:23:23 PARAMETERS TO DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH.
05:23:26 CORRECT?
05:23:26 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THAT IS CORRECT SUMMATION.
05:23:30 THERE HAS BEEN NO EXCEPTIONS FILED STATING ANY OBJECTIONS TO
05:23:36 THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
05:23:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, I WILL SAY, AFTER THE DETERMINATION
05:23:45 TODAY, I THINK LEGAL NEEDS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME
05:23:48 PARAMETERS, SO IT'S CLEAR THAT THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW WHAT
05:23:52 THEIR ALTERNATIVES ARE.
05:23:54 WHAT I AM SEEING RIGHT NOW, NO ONE KNOWS BECAUSE WE DON'T
05:23:58 KNOW.
05:23:59 WHICH I THINK WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR IN THE
05:24:02 GUIDELINES.
05:24:04 MY OPINION.
05:24:04 >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:24:07 >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH THAT, TOO.
05:24:10 I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO MODIFY THE CODE BUT I WISH WE
05:24:13 COULD HAVE MORE NOTICE OR COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC SO
05:24:15 THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IN THIS REGARD.
05:24:19 THIS IS AN UNUSUAL PROCESS THAT I DON'T THINK I HAVE SEEN IN
05:24:22 THREE AND A HALF YEARS.
05:24:26 THE ATTORNEY THAT WAS REPRESENTING THE PERSON, DEES.
05:24:33 >> JUSTIN DEES.
05:24:36 >>BILL CARLSON: BUT THAT PERSON DID NOT PUT FORWARD ANY
05:24:39 OBJECTIONS AND THAT PERSON KNEW THEY NEEDED --
05:24:43 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I EXPRESSLY COMMUNICATED WITH THE
05:24:46 ATTORNEY THE PROCESS THAT MUST BE FOLLOWED REGARDING WHERE
05:24:47 WE ARE AFTER THE REVIEW HEARING.
05:24:49 I DID COMMUNICATE THAT.
05:24:50 >>BILL CARLSON: AND THE LAST THING IS, SO THIS, IT SWITCHED
05:24:57 FROM YC-6 TO YC-7 IN 2000, TO THE AREA WIDE CHANGE, AND THEN
05:25:03 IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY AT SOME POINT, SHORTLY THEREAFTER,
05:25:07 THE PROPERTY OWNER SENT A REQUEST FOR AN EXCEPTION.
05:25:11 HOW LONG OF A THAT?
05:25:13 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: NO, THE PROPERTY OWNER FILED A
05:25:15 REQUEST FOR A FORMAL DECISION REGARDING THE PRINCIPAL USE OF
05:25:20 PARKING ON THE LOTS, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNER LEARNED THAT
05:25:24 THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION WAS CHANGED TO YC-7, EVEN THOUGH
05:25:31 THE PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED IN 2000 TO OPT OUT OF THE AREA WADE
05:25:35 REZONING.
05:25:36 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN.
05:25:38 SO THE PEOPLE THAT OWNED THIS PROPERTY, WHEN THEY WERE
05:25:42 NOTICED IN 2000 THAT IT WAS CHANGING FROM YC-6 --
05:25:46 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THEY FOLLOWED THE CITY'S POLICY AT
05:25:48 THE TIME TO PROVIDE WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION TO WHERE AN OPT
05:25:52 OUT OF THE AREA WADE REZONING.
05:25:54 >>BILL CARLSON: WOULD HAVE STAYED AT YC-6.
05:25:58 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CORRECT.
05:25:59 >>BILL CARLSON: AND SOMEBODY AT THE CITY FORGOT TO RECORD
05:26:02 IT THAT WAY?
05:26:03 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I CAN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY HOW IT
05:26:05 WAS LEFT OUT BUT THAT LETTER WAS NOT INCLUDED AND THE ZONING
05:26:09 WAS CHANGED TO YC-7 INADVERTENTLY.
05:26:11 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
05:26:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN EVERYONE PLEASE SIT DOWN?
05:26:19 PLEASE.
05:26:20 MR. MICHELINI, YOU SIT DOWN, ALSO.
05:26:24 SORRY.
05:26:24 MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ AND MR. COTTON, UNLESS YOU ARE GOING TO
05:26:28 GET TO THE PODIUM AND SAY SOMETHING, PLEASE SIT DOWN.
05:26:30 IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.
05:26:33 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I CAN JUST FINISH.
05:26:41 FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WATCHING AND HERE IN PERSON, YOU
05:26:45 HAVE BEEN SITTING AROUND ALL DAY.
05:26:47 THIS COUNCIL VERY MUCH BELIEVES IN LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC.
05:26:50 IN THIS CASE, I DON'T KNOW ANYWAY TO OPEN THIS BACK UP
05:26:55 EASILY.
05:26:55 AND SO OUR HAND ARE TIED.
05:26:58 IF THERE WAS A WAY THAT WE COULD FIGURE IT OUT, WE WOULD.
05:27:01 WE HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS HEAR FOR 20 OR 30 MINUTES AND WE
05:27:04 CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO OPEN IT.
05:27:10 I MADE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
05:27:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST BRIEFLY RESTATE YOUR MOTION.
05:27:19 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, DO YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING?
05:27:21 >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST TO CLARIFY.
05:27:27 EVEN THOUGH WE MAY HAVE GOTTEN THE EXCEPTION, OR WE MAY HAVE
05:27:31 HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC BY E-MAIL OR A QUASI BOX, THAT
05:27:38 WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED NEW -- NEW EVIDENCE BECAUSE IT HAD TO
05:27:50 BE FILED THE PROPER WAY?
05:27:51 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CORRECT.
05:27:53 >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
05:27:54 THAT WAS MY --
05:27:55 >> CAN YOU BRIEFLY RESTATE YOUR MOTION?
05:27:57 >>BILL CARLSON: AGAIN MAKING THIS MOTION BECAUSE I DON'T
05:28:00 SEE ANY LEGAL JUSTIFICATION TO MAKE ANY OTHER MOTIONS.
05:28:04 BUT I MOVE TO ADOPT THE HEARING OFFICER'S RECOMMENDED ORDER
05:28:07 THAT DENIED THE PETITION FOR REVIEW AND AFFIRMED THE FORMAL
05:28:11 DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATION FOR FDN 21-125-C.
05:28:15 >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL CARLSON, SECONDED BY
05:28:21 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:28:28 THIS IS QUASI-JUDICIAL?
05:28:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
05:28:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE GOING TO VOTE.
05:28:41 >>THE CLERK: ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:28:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.
05:28:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:28:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:28:52 >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
05:28:53 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:28:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:28:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
05:28:56 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK AND CITRO VOTING NO
05:29:00 AND MANISCALCO BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
05:29:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NUMBER 118 ON OUR AGENDA, VAC 22-17.
05:29:33 >>RON WIGGINTON: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
05:29:36 ITEM NUMBER 118 IS THE CITY'S REQUEST TO VACATE A
05:29:39 RIGHT-OF-WAY IN JACKSON HEIGHTS EAST TAMPA.
05:29:42 AS ALWAYS, ON FIRST READING I LIKE TO REMIND CITY COUNCIL
05:29:45 THAT IT HAS BROAD DISCRETION WHETHER TO APPROVE OR DENY THE
05:29:49 REQUEST FOR THE VACATING, AND IN SUCH DELIBERATIONS, SOME
05:29:53 FACTORS THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER ARE WHETHER THE VACATING WILL
05:29:57 RELIEVE THE PUBLIC FROM THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE
05:29:59 RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHETHER THE VACATING WILL ALLEVIATE A PUBLIC
05:30:02 NUISANCE OR CURTAIL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, WHETHER THE VACATING
05:30:06 WILL FOSTER REDEVELOPMENT, AND WHETHER AN ABUTTING PROPERTY
05:30:09 OWNER'S ACCESS WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY DIMINISHED ORB
05:30:12 COMPLETELY CUT OFF.
05:30:13 IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE VACATING ALLOW THE EXPANSION OF
05:30:16 A PARK IN THIS AREA.
05:30:18 I WOULD NOW LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO MR. ROSS SAMMONS TO
05:30:23 PROVIDE HIS PRESENTATION.
05:30:24 >>ROSS SAMMONS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:30:30 I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR YOU.
05:30:39 FILE VAC 22-17.
05:30:42 AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS THE CITY OF TAMPA PARKS AND
05:30:44 RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
05:30:47 THE GENERAL LOCATION IS 5019 NORTH 39th STREET.
05:30:57 THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS VACATE A PORTION OF CARACAS
05:31:02 STREET, NORTH OF WILDER AVENUE, EAST OF 34th STREET,
05:31:07 WEST OF 36th STREET.
05:31:13 THIS WAS FILED ON APRIL 14, 2022.
05:31:16 THE CITY OWNS PROPERTY ON BOTH THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF
05:31:20 CARACAS THAT WAS REQUESTED TO BE VACATED.
05:31:23 THE REASON IS FOR PARK IMPROVEMENT, AND EXTENSION OF THE
05:31:26 EAST TAMPA RECREATION COMPLEX.
05:31:28 THE STREET, THIS STREET IS CREATED BY A SUBDIVISION PLAT AND
05:31:31 THE CITY OF TAMPA RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION.
05:31:34 IT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.
05:31:41 THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 28,680 SQUARE
05:31:45 FEET.
05:31:52 HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.
05:31:57 AS YOU SEE HERE, THE CARACAS STREET IN YELLOW.
05:32:01 34th AND 36th STREET IN RED IS ALL CITY OWNED
05:32:06 PROPERTY.
05:32:13 AGAIN, SHOWING THE SECTION OF CARACAS STREET TO BE VACATED.
05:32:19 AND IN GRAY CITY OWNED PROPERTY, A PREVIOUSLY VACATED
05:32:22 STREET.
05:32:26 A QUICK VIEW OF TWO SUBDIVISIONS OF HOW THIS SECTION OF
05:32:31 CARACAS STREET WAS CREATED HERE AND HERE.
05:32:37 QUICK IMAGES OF THE STREET.
05:32:40 HERE IS CARACAS STREET LOOKING EAST FROM 34th STREET.
05:32:48 THIS IS CARACAS LOOKING WEST FROM 36th STREET.
05:32:57 CITY OF TAMPA PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH FROM CARACAS STREET,
05:33:01 STORMWATER POND.
05:33:07 CITY PROPERTY LOOKING NORTH FROM CARACAS STREET.
05:33:15 STAFF HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THE VACATING REQUEST.
05:33:19 IF THE VACATING REQUEST IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, RESERVATIONS
05:33:22 ARE REQUIRED BY TECO, FRONTIER AND SPECTRUM.
05:33:24 AND ALSO NATURAL RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE THEY COMPLY WITH
05:33:28 CHAPTER 27 REGARDING TREE PRESERVATION.
05:33:32 IMPROVEMENTS, TREES, IN THE VACATED AREA.
05:33:36 THANK YOU.
05:33:36 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
05:33:37 >> ANY QUESTIONS?
05:33:41 >> I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, AND REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE
05:33:44 PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS AVAILABLE ALSO.
05:33:47 >> ANY QUESTIONS?
05:33:55 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS?
05:33:59 WE HAVE NO ONE ONLINE?
05:34:02 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCIL GUDES, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
05:34:05 MIRANDA.
05:34:06 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:34:07 THANK YOU.
05:34:11 COUNCIL HURTAK.
05:34:11 >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER VAC 22-17, ORDINANCE BEING
05:34:18 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF
05:34:21 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING
05:34:25 AND A BON DONNING CERTAIN RIGHTS-OF-WAY LOCATED SOUTH OF
05:34:28 WILDER AVENUE, NORTH OF ELLICOTT AVENUE, EAST OF 34th
05:34:32 STREET AND WEST OF 36th STREET WITHIN THE PLATS OF
05:34:36 PRINCE'S SUBDIVISION AND THE THOMAS HEITER SUBDIVISION IN
05:34:41 THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY
05:34:43 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
05:34:47 CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
05:34:50 HEREIN PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR
05:34:52 VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND
05:34:55 REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING
05:34:58 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:34:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL HURTAK,
05:35:03 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:35:05 ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:35:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:35:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: (NO AUDIBLE RESPONSE)
05:35:10 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:35:11 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:35:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:35:13 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:35:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:35:15 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
05:35:18 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
05:35:21 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON AUGUST 4th,
05:35:24 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
05:35:27 >> ITEM 119.
05:35:29 FILE VAC 22-18.
05:35:34 >>BETTY WIGGINS: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
05:35:35 ITEM NUMBER 119 IS THE SAME SITUATION AS 118, WHEREBY THE
05:35:39 CITY IS THE APPLICANT AND IS REQUESTING VACATING OF
05:35:42 RIGHT-OF-WAY TO ALLOW EXPANSION OF A PARK IN PORT TAMPA.
05:35:44 I PROVIDED A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE PROVIDING CORRECTING A
05:35:48 SCRIVENER ERROR, AND YES, I WAS THE SCRIVENER, SO MADE SURE
05:35:51 I CORRECTED THAT.
05:35:52 AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO MR. SAMMONS.
05:35:59 >>ROSS SAMMONS: PRESENTING VAC 22-18.
05:36:04 AGAIN, THE CITY OF TAMPA PARKS AND RECREATION IS THE
05:36:06 APPLICANT.
05:36:12 THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS VACATE A PORTION OF MORTON
05:36:17 STREET, AND NORTH OF TARPON STREET.
05:36:24 THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED ON APRIL 14, 2022.
05:36:28 THE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF THE
05:36:28 STREET THAT IS REQUESTED TO BE VACATED. THE APPLICANT
05:36:33 REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS FOR PARK IMPROVEMENT.
05:36:34 THIS STREET WAS CREATED BY A SUBDIVISION PLAT.
05:36:38 EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 24,000 SQUARE FEET.
05:36:45 HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN
05:36:49 YELLOW.
05:36:51 CANAL STREET IS HERE.
05:36:54 TARPON STREET IS HERE.
05:36:55 CITY OWNED PROPERTY IN RED.
05:37:02 AGAIN, I ADDED ANOTHER IMAGE HERE.
05:37:05 THIS IS GIVING AN OVERALL VIEW OF WHAT'S SOUTH OF THE
05:37:09 PROPERTY, AND ACTUAL CANAL IN CANAL STREET.
05:37:15 CITY OWNED PROPERTY HERE.
05:37:18 CHEVRON AND MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE OUT BACK.
05:37:26 THIS IS THE PLAT THAT IT WAS CREATED IN HERE.
05:37:34 AN IMAGE OF MORTON STREET LOOKING SOUTH FROM TARPON STREET.
05:37:44 CITY OWNED PROPERTY LOOKING EAST FROM MORTON STREET TO
05:37:48 TARPON STREET.
05:37:54 CITY OWNED PROPERTY LOOKING WEST FROM ELLICOTT STREET,
05:37:59 APPROXIMATELY THAT LOCATION OF THE STREET.
05:38:05 THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF MORTON STREET LOOKING NORTH FROM
05:38:09 TARPON STREET.
05:38:10 AND THIS IS NOT TO BE VACATED.
05:38:12 STAFF HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THE VACATING REQUEST, NO
05:38:17 EASEMENTS OR RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED, NATURAL RESOURCES,
05:38:21 TREE PRESERVATION, FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS, PLACEMENT OF TREES
05:38:26 IN THE VACATED AREA.
05:38:28 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
05:38:28 >> ANY QUESTIONS?
05:38:32 ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THOUGH HO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?
05:38:35 NO ONE ONLINE?
05:38:37 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:38:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO CLOSE.
05:38:43 SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:38:47 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:38:49 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:38:51 IS THIS THE SUBSTITUTE THAT IS ON OUR AGENDA?
05:38:54 OKAY.
05:38:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GOT IT.
05:39:07 VAC 22-18, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
05:39:10 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
05:39:14 VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING A CERTAIN
05:39:17 RIGHT-OF-WAY/ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF TARPON STREET, NORTH
05:39:21 OF THE CANAL STREET, WEST OF ELLICOTT -- ELLIOTT STREET, AND
05:39:26 EAST OF GERMER STREET WITHIN MAP OF PART OF PORT TAMPA CITY,
05:39:32 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA AND MORE
05:39:35 FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN
05:39:37 COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY
05:39:40 SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR
05:39:43 VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND
05:39:46 REPEALING CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
05:39:50 EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:39:51 >> SECOND.
05:39:53 >> THANK YOU.
05:39:54 MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:39:55 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:39:57 ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:39:58 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:40:00 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:40:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:40:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:40:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:40:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:40:07 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
05:40:09 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
05:40:12 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON AUGUST 4th,
05:40:15 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
05:40:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:40:18 AGENDA ITEM 120 HAS ALREADY BEEN CONTINUED.
05:40:21 >>THE CLERK: NO, IT HAS NOT.
05:40:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED.
05:40:26 DO WE HAVE A DATE FOR THAT?
05:40:27 >>THE CLERK: SEPTEMBER 15 AT 1:30 P.M.
05:40:30 >> SO MOVED.
05:40:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
05:40:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:40:34 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:40:37 ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:40:37 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:40:40 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:40:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:40:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:40:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:40:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:40:48 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:40:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE ARE GOING BACK TO
05:40:52 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20.
05:40:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN EITHER CONTINUE THIS
05:41:12 OR I CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, OPTIONS
05:41:15 THAT ARE AVAILABLE, AND TALK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.
05:41:18 I SHOULD POINT OUT, COUNCIL, NORMALLY, THIS WEEK HAS BEEN
05:41:23 VERY DIFFERENT FOR ME, BUT NORMALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS I AM UP
05:41:25 TO SPEED ON ALL OF THE AGENDA ITEMS, AND I HAVE THE
05:41:28 OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS WITH COUNCIL.
05:41:31 THIS WEEK WAS DIFFERENT.
05:41:34 BUT THAT'S -- IT'S NOT JUST MISSING A MEETING, HAVING A CITY
05:41:39 COUNCIL ATTORNEY ENTAIL OTHER THINGS THAN JUST BEING PRESENT
05:41:42 AT THE MEETING, ALTHOUGH GRANTED THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
05:41:45 THING TO HAVE SOMEBODY HEAR TO REPRESENT.
05:41:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:41:52 >>BILL CARLSON: I AM HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE
05:41:54 THIS TO SEPTEMBER 1st.
05:41:56 >> SECOND.
05:41:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:42:00 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:42:02 DISCUSSION?
05:42:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:42:07 I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM MOVING IT OUT, BUT I FEEL MR. SHELBY
05:42:11 CAN MAKE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT I
05:42:14 THINK NEEDS TO MEET WITH ALL OF US TO SEE HOW WE FEEL, AND
05:42:18 THE SUGGESTIONS THAT COME BACK, NOT JUST MEET WITH THE CITY
05:42:22 ATTORNEY, BUT ALL OF US, SO YOU CAN HAVE OUR IDEAS, AND THEN
05:42:26 WE CAN COME BACK WITH HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED AS RELATES TO
05:42:28 BE CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
05:42:34 I BELIEVE YOU NEED AN ASSISTANT.
05:42:39 AND BE PROBABLY TO HELP YOU WITH A LOT OF THE TASKS.
05:42:42 SO I WANT TO ALL INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.
05:42:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND.
05:42:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THAT MOTION
05:42:52 RIGHT NOW.
05:42:53 WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS SOMETIME BACK.
05:42:55 WE DIDN'T DO IT.
05:42:56 OUR FAULT AND MY FAULT, WHATEVER.
05:42:58 BUT WE SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE A REPLACE IF WE ONLY HAVE ONE
05:43:02 INDIVIDUAL.
05:43:02 I DON'T CARE IF IT'S A TRUCK DRIVER, AIRLINE PILOT, ENGINEER
05:43:05 OR SPACE WALKER, WHATEVER.
05:43:06 YOU MUST HAVE A BACKUP IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE ONE.
05:43:10 THAT'S WHAT IT SHOWS.
05:43:12 THAT'S IT.
05:43:13 SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO IN SOME WAY FORMULATE ALL 14, ANY LAW
05:43:20 FIRM, THAT BASICALLY DOESN'T WORK WITH THE CITY.
05:43:23 THAT WOULD THE WAY TO GO.
05:43:24 THAT WAY IT'S VERY TRANSPARENT, VERY UP TO DATE, AND THAT'S
05:43:28 MY SUGGESTION.
05:43:29 I DON'T CARE HOW IT'S DONE.
05:43:30 BUT MIGHT BE WORKING HARD.
05:43:34 HE'S ONLY GOT SEVEN CUSTOMERS.
05:43:37 >> COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:43:39 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO AGREE WITH ALL OF MY COUNCIL
05:43:41 MEMBERS.
05:43:41 I AGREE WITH ALL OF THE STATEMENTS.
05:43:43 AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO MAKE SURE YOU
05:43:45 MEET WITH EACH OF US AND THEN WHEN YOU COME BACK YOU HAVE A
05:43:48 GREAT IDEA OF WHAT WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE.
05:43:51 WE PREPARE FOR MANY THINGS, BUT THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT
05:43:54 COUNCIL HASN'T PREPARED FOR BEFORE.
05:43:57 SO I AM REALLY GLAD THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET EVERYONE'S
05:43:59 INPUT, AND THEN PREPARE FOR IT.
05:44:01 >> WE STILL HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, BUT I WANT TO MAKE
05:44:06 ONE STATEMENT.
05:44:06 IN THE YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY, GOING ALL THE
05:44:11 WAY BACK TO 2003, WHEN I FIRST STARTED IN CIVIL SERVICE
05:44:15 BOARD, I HAD NEVER SEAN YOU TAKE AN EXTENDED LEAVE.
05:44:21 EVER.
05:44:23 WHAT WILL BE DISCUSSED WILL HELP US OUT IF YOU EVER HAVE TO
05:44:29 TAKE ANOTHER LEAVE.
05:44:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HOPE NEVER.
05:44:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, I HOPE IT NEVER HAPPENS EITHER.
05:44:35 ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND
05:44:38 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:44:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:44:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:44:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:44:46 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:44:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:44:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:44:49 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:44:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:44:52 INFORMATION REPORTS.
05:44:54 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:44:55 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU JUST REMINDED ME THAT WE DEFERRED THE
05:44:58 DISCUSSION ABOUT CHARTER CHANGES UNTIL MARTY CAME BACK.
05:45:01 DID WE EVER SCHEDULE THAT?
05:45:03 WE ARE GOING TO RUN OUT OF TIME HEAR, RIGHT?
05:45:06 WHAT IS IT, AUGUST SOMETHING IS THE DEADLINE TO PUT
05:45:08 SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT?
05:45:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
05:45:18 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE LIKE A TWO HOUR
05:45:20 DISCUSSION WITHOUT A FACILITATOR JUST TO GET THROUGH IT.
05:45:23 OTHERWISE, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
05:45:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN WE PUT SOMETHING ON --
05:45:37 >>BILL CARLSON: I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
05:45:39 ATTORNEY CONFER WITH WHOMEVER AND COME BACK THE NEXT MEETING
05:45:44 TO RECOMMEND A DATE AND TIME AND PROCESS TO DISCUSS IT.
05:45:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A NIGHT MEETING OR THE NEXT REGULAR
05:45:51 MEETING?
05:45:53 JULY 28th?
05:45:55 I CAN HAVE A DATE SET UP AND CHECK YOUR AVAILABILITY BEFORE
05:46:00 THEN.
05:46:04 >>BILL CARLSON: AND IF YOU DON'T MIND I NEED TO GET TO
05:46:07 COUNCIL HURTAK.
05:46:08 RESTATE YOUR MOTION, PLEASE.
05:46:10 >>BILL CARLSON: MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL
05:46:13 ATTORNEY TO COME BACK TO US ON BEFORE JULY 28 TO DISCUSS A
05:46:20 TIME, DATE, AND PROCESS TO DISCUSS CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
05:46:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT.
05:46:29 PROPOSED.
05:46:29 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
05:46:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCIL VIERA.
05:46:35 MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
05:46:39 VIERA.
05:46:39 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:46:41 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
05:46:43 THANK YOU.
05:46:44 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF YOU HOLD OFF ON THAT.
05:46:48 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I GIVE HER THE FLOOR.
05:46:51 >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
05:46:58 THE LAST FEW WEEKS HAVE BEEN REALLY DIFFICULT AS A WOMAN IN
05:47:01 AMERICA, JUST EVERYTHING THAT'S GONE ON, THE LAST OF ROE.
05:47:06 I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON ABORTION ISSUES FOR OVER
05:47:09 25 YEARS, THE RIGHT TO PROTECT A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO MAKE HER
05:47:14 OWN REPRODUCTIVE DECISIONS, AND WITH THAT, WE HAVE BEEN ON
05:47:23 BREAK FOR TWO WEEKS AND I HAD A CHANCE TO BE THINK ABOUT
05:47:25 WHAT WE AS A CITY CAN DO, LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER PLACES ARE
05:47:29 DOING, AND AUSTIN TEXAS HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD ACT KNOWN AS
05:47:36 THE GRACE ACT, THAT BASICALLY ALLOWS -- DOES NOT ALLOW CITY
05:47:41 FUNDS TO BE USED FOR STORING OF CATALOGING AND REPORT OF
05:47:44 ABORTION, MISCARRIAGE OR OTHER REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH, PROVIDES
05:47:49 INFORMATION THAT DOES NOT ALLOW FUNDS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION
05:47:51 TO ANY OTHER GOVERNMENTAL BODY OR AGENCY ABOUT REPRODUCTIVE
05:47:56 HEALTH CARE AND DOES NOT ALLOW CITY FUNDS TO COLLECT
05:48:03 INFORMATION RELATED TO REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE.
05:48:07 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE LEGAL STAFF REVIEW
05:48:10 THE CITY OF AUSTIN, TEXAS RESOLUTION KNOWN AS THE GRACE ACT
05:48:14 CONDEMNING ANY ACTIONS BEGINNING ON THE RIGHTS OF RESIDENTS
05:48:17 TO MAKE REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH DECISIONS INCLUDING ABORTIONS
05:48:20 THERE FOR THEMSELVES AND TO MODIFY IT TO FIT THE CITY OF
05:48:23 TAMPA AND STATE OF FLORIDA RULINGS AND REGULATIONS.
05:48:27 >> WE HAVE A MOTION MADE -- YES?
05:48:33 >> AND I ASK LEGAL TO BRING IT BACK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE,
05:48:36 AUGUST 4 F IF NOT SOONER.
05:48:40 AND I HAVE THE ACT AND EVERYTHING.
05:48:43 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
05:48:45 YOU KNOW, A VERY CAUSTIC ISSUE, AND THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH
05:48:52 CAUSTIC CHANGE THAT OCCURRED OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, YOU
05:48:55 KNOW, I THINK AMERICANS, THERE'S A LOT OF DIVISION AND
05:49:01 DIFFERENCES OF OPINION WHENEVER IT COMES TO CERTAIN MORAL
05:49:03 ISSUES, ET CETERA, BUT I THINK THE GOOD MAJORITY OF
05:49:05 AMERICANS ARE UNITED AROUND THE FACT THAT WHEN IT COMES TO A
05:49:08 PERSONAL COMPASS, WHEN IT COMES TO PERSONAL AUTONOMY,
05:49:12 ET CETERA, THAT PERSONS HAVE BEEN A RIGHT TO PRIVACY, AND
05:49:15 THAT INCLUDES THIS ISSUE, AND WITH THE LOSS OF ROE AS WELL
05:49:18 AS, WHAT IS IT, THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD VERSUS CASEY, COMES
05:49:23 AN ATTACK AND THE LOSS OF RIGHT TO PRIVACY AS ESTABLISHED
05:49:26 UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION.
05:49:27 I BELIEVE AS WELL AS ATTACKS ON POTENTIALLY GRISWOLD AND
05:49:31 OTHER SUBSEQUENT CASES THAT HAVE GREAT BEARING UPON OUR
05:49:35 CIVIL LIBERTIES, ET CETERA, SO I THINK THERE'S A GREAT
05:49:39 DIFFERENCES OF OPINION ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES, BUT
05:49:42 WHEN IT COMES TO PERSONAL AUTONOMY AS ESTABLISHED BY CASE
05:49:45 LAW, I THINK THAT THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF AGREEMENT ON THAT
05:49:48 ISSUE.
05:49:48 SO AS I UNDERSTAND THIS, I CAN SUPPORT IT.
05:49:51 THANK YOU.
05:49:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
05:49:58 HURTAK, SECONDED BY VIERA.
05:50:00 ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:50:01 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:50:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:50:05 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:50:06 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:50:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:50:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:50:09 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:50:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:50:14 >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM A LITTLE OVERWHELMED, GETTING A LITTLE
05:50:17 TEARY.
05:50:18 I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR OVERWHELMING SUPPORT.
05:50:21 WHILE I DO FEEL I KNOW, IT'S VERY SCARY TO BRING FORWARD, SO
05:50:27 I APPRECIATE IT.
05:50:28 AND I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR THE WOMEN OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
05:50:31 AND THEY APPRECIATE IT JUST AS MUCH AS I DO.
05:50:33 SORRY.
05:50:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE UNDERSTAND THAT, AND IT'S SOMETHING
05:50:39 THAT -- IT'S A WOMAN'S CHOICE.
05:50:46 WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT DOESN'T MATTER.
05:50:48 IT'S A WOMAN'S CHOICE.
05:50:49 IT'S HEARD HER BODY.
05:50:51 AND WE HAVE THINGS DONE SOMETIMES THAT ARE THE SAME COURT
05:50:56 ALSO DID SOMETHING THE OTHER DAY THAT THREW ME FOR A LOOP.
05:50:59 I WOULD NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT THEY WOULD TAKE AWAY THE
05:51:02 RIGHTS FROM ANY GOVERNMENT TELLING SOMEBODY THAT YOU CAN GO
05:51:04 BACK TO BURNING COAL.
05:51:11 YOU CAN'T TELL WHAT TYPE OF -- THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THEY
05:51:16 WOULD SAY.
05:51:17 AND I ALSO THINK THAT'S A TERRIBLE MOVE BUT THAT WASN'T MY
05:51:20 DECISION.
05:51:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR BEING BRAVE. IN MY HUMBLE
05:51:35 OPINION THIS IS A PRIVACY ISSUE.
05:51:37 AN ISSUE BETWEEN A WOMAN AND A DOCTOR AND THAT'S IT.
05:51:41 THANK YOU FOR BEING BRAVE.
05:51:42 ALL RIGHT.
05:51:43 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BACK TO YOU.
05:51:47 YOU'RE FINISHED?
05:51:49 COUNCIL VIERA.
05:51:49 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
05:51:50 JUST A FEW.
05:51:50 TAMPA FIRE RESCUE REQUESTED THAT THE FIREFIGHTER OF THE
05:51:53 QUARTER COMMENDATION PRESENTATION BE MOVED FROM OCTOBER
05:51:55 20th TO SEPTEMBER 6th.
05:52:00 >> MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:52:01 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:52:03 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:52:04 IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
05:52:05 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THEN NEXT, A LOT OF US KNEW THE LATER THE
05:52:09 REESE A PEER COY, AN ATTORNEY, JUST YOU GOT -- YOU CAN TELL
05:52:17 I AM GETTING EMOTIONAL, A WONDERFUL WOMAN.
05:52:19 SHE PASSED ON RECENTLY AND I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH HER
05:52:22 FAMILY, HER WIDOWER, TRAVIS COY, A WONDERFUL INDIVIDUAL IN
05:52:27 THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
05:52:29 I MOTION FOR A COMMENDATION TO BE AWARDED.
05:52:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GAVE HER A COMMENDATION ALREADY.
05:52:35 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU DID?
05:52:37 DID HE FUNERAL?
05:52:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
05:52:39 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT THIS THEN?
05:52:41 IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN GUDES, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
05:52:45 THEN WHAT I WILL DO IS I WILL CHANGE IT FOR OCTOBER 6th.
05:52:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT WAS PRESENTED AT THE FENN EARLY.
05:52:55 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I COULDN'T MAKE IT BECAUSE OF A FAMILY
05:52:57 CONFLICT.
05:52:59 SO LET ME DO THIS, IF I MAY.
05:53:01 LET'S DO OCTOBER 6th TO HAVE THE FAMILY OF THE LATER THE
05:53:07 REESE A PEER COY COME AND TO SPEAK ON BREAST CANCER
05:53:12 AWARENESS MONTH WHICH IS IN OCTOBER, WITHOUT A COMMENDATION.
05:53:16 AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
05:53:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ACTUALLY, WE TALKED IT OVER, AND HAD THE
05:53:23 WAKE OFF OF 26th STREET, AND THE DELTA HE'S WERE THERE,
05:53:28 THE DEALT'S WERE ABLE AND WENT TO THE CHURCH.
05:53:33 >>LUIS VIERA: AND AGAIN, THE INTENT IS NOT THE COMMENDATION
05:53:36 IS YOU ARE RELEVANT.
05:53:37 THE ISSUE I THINK IS FOR BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH IS TO
05:53:41 SPEAK FROM THE HEART, ET CETERA.
05:53:43 SO OCTOBER 6th.
05:53:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A REGULAR MEETING, NOT CEREMONIAL?
05:53:52 >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:54:00 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:54:02 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:54:03 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
05:54:05 THEN LASTLY, THIS IS A REALLY INTERESTING ONE.
05:54:07 I CAME ACROSS THROUGH THE PIPEFITTERS UNION LOCAL 123, A
05:54:12 GENTLEMAN, A YOUNG MAN WHO I SPOKE TO ON THE PHONE A FEW
05:54:15 DAYS AGO, JUAQUIN ROBINSON, WITH THE APPRENTICESHIP
05:54:20 PROGRAM FOR LOCAL 123. HE IS THE FIRST HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
05:54:22 STUDENT EVER TO PASS THE G 6 TYPE TEST BEFORE GRADUATION,
05:54:26 SOMETHING I AM TOLD IN WELDING IS SOMETHING THAT A PERSON
05:54:28 WITH 10, 20, 30 YEARS EXPERIENCE WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME
05:54:31 DOING, AND THIS YOUNG MAN WHO IS ABOUT 17 YEARS OLD DID IT.
05:54:36 HE IS A GRADUATE OF MC3 PROGRAM, A PREAPPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM
05:54:38 THAT THE LOCAL HAS WORKED HARD TO SUPPORT. 6-G PIPE WELDING
05:54:48 IS ONE OF THE HARDEST TO PASS, AND HE DID IT BEFORE HE
05:54:52 GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL, SO I MOVE ON SEPTEMBER 6th WE
05:54:55 INVITE THIS YOUNG MAN AND HIS FAMILY OVER TO GIVE HIM A
05:54:58 COMMENDATION.
05:54:59 >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
05:55:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED
05:55:01 BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:55:03 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:55:04 ANY OPPOSED?
05:55:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT.
05:55:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
05:55:10 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
05:55:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A COUPLE.
05:55:13 I DON'T KNOW IF A FEW FOLKS MIGHT KNOW COACH JOHNNY YOUNG
05:55:17 PASSED AWAY THIS WEEK.
05:55:21 COACH JOHNNY WORKED A LONG TIME AT THE HOLLAND PINES CENTER.
05:55:34 SO POSTHUMOUSLY A COMMENDATION TO COACH JOHNNY YOUNG
05:55:38 PRESENTED TO THE FAMILY AT SERVICES THIS COMING SATURDAY.
05:55:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY
05:55:49 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:55:50 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:55:51 ANY OPPOSED?
05:55:52 THANK YOU.
05:55:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE SECOND ONE FOR A YOUNG LADY WHO HAS
05:55:56 SOME CHALLENGES IN HER LIFE.
05:55:57 SHE OVERCAME THOSE CHALLENGES.
05:56:00 SHE'S A BUSINESS WOMAN.
05:56:06 SHE'S SPOKEN PHOTOS.
05:56:07 SHE HAS BUYING BACK TO SCHOOL EVENT A LONG TIME NOW.
05:56:11 SHE ALSO DOES A GRANDPARENTS VALENTINE'S DAY EVENT EACH
05:56:15 YEAR.
05:56:16 SO SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE PEOPLE, GIVE
05:56:21 THEM FLOWERS, WHY THEY ARE HERE, AND OUTSTANDING JOB THEY
05:56:24 ARE DOING.
05:56:25 AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE TANYA LEWIS A COMMENDATION FOR
05:56:29 SEPTEMBER 6th, THE NEXT DAY FOR COMMENDATIONS FOR
05:56:37 CITIZENS.
05:56:41 THE BACK TO SCHOOL BASH IS COME UP THIS NEXT MONTH.
05:56:50 >> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
05:56:53 MADE BY GUDES, SECONDED BY MIRANDA.
05:56:55 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:56:56 ANY OPPOSED?
05:56:57 THANK YOU.
05:56:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU HEARD EARLIER THIS MORNING, YOU HEARD
05:56:59 ALL THE HOUSING CRIES FROM THE PUBLIC, AND I WAS GOING TO
05:57:07 THINK ABOUT A MOTION, BUT I AM GOING TO HOLD OFF AND LET THE
05:57:10 PUBLIC KNOW I AM GOOD TO MY WORD BY MEETING WITH MRS. TRAVIS
05:57:15 EARLIER AND HAVE A DISCUSSION IN RELATION TO THIS HOUSING
05:57:20 CRISIS BEFORE I DECIDE TO MAKE A MOTION AND SEE IF THIS
05:57:23 COUNCIL WILL SECOND AND APPROVE IT.
05:57:25 I WANT TO MEET WITH HER FIRST, GIVE SOME IDEAS OF WHAT WE
05:57:28 ARE ACTUALLY DOING.
05:57:29 SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS IT'S MY WORD BUT I WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT
05:57:32 THEY ARE DOING, SO JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS.
05:57:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:57:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT TODAY, BUT IN THE FUTURE I AM GOING
05:57:38 TO COME BACK WITH SIX OTHER COLLEAGUES TO DISCUSS SOLAR, TO
05:57:43 DISCUSS CHANGES IN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN THAT I THINK WE
05:57:47 NEED, TO SAVE OURSELVES FROM HURRICANES, AND ALSO HAVE A
05:57:50 DIFFERENT WAY OF DISPENSING SOME OF THE WATER THAT COMES OFF
05:57:53 YOUR ROOF.
05:57:56 YOU CAN SAVE MONEY, SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT AT THE SAME TIME,
05:57:59 AND BE HAPPY.
05:57:59 >> I CANNOT WAIT TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.
05:58:04 THANK YOU.
05:58:05 WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS, I COMMENTED ON PEOPLE THAT ARE
05:58:12 HELPING MR. BHIDE AND HIS MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, AND THE GREAT
05:58:16 THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE WITH THE WEST RIVER AS FAR AS
05:58:19 PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLISTS, AND I LEFT ONE VERY IMPORTANT
05:58:23 PERSON OFF OF THAT, AND THAT'S MS. BRANDY NICHOLAS.
05:58:28 AND BRANDY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP.
05:58:33 LADY AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS A LONG DAY.
05:58:37 WE ALL FOUND OUT SOME THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW, AND THERE
05:58:42 WERE SOME VERY INTENSE DISCUSSIONS.
05:58:45 YOU WISH TO THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH FOR THIS DAY, AND
05:58:49 FOR MADAM CLERK, AND FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY -- EXCUSE ME,
05:58:55 CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, AND OF COURSE OUR TPD OFFICER.
05:59:00 THIS IS A GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE TODAY, AND I NEED A
05:59:03 MOTION --
05:59:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHOA, MR. CHAIRMAN, I FORGOT.
05:59:07 I HAVE GOT TO MAKE THIS ANNOUNCEMENT.
05:59:09 AND I HAVE GOT TO STAND UP TO DO IT.
05:59:12 I WANT MRS. NICOLE TRAVIS CAME TO THE CITY, AND YOU CAN TELL
05:59:21 YOU HER AND HER COUNTERPART, IT'S A PLEASURE FOR EAST TAMPA
05:59:30 THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO COME IN.
05:59:33 I WANT TO THANK HER.
05:59:35 YOU KNOW, WHEN I MADE THAT MOTION, BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT PEN
05:59:41 YOU SAVER, IT DOESN'T GO.
05:59:45 SO I WANT TO GIVE HER A BIG THANKS, PART OF THAT TEAM,
05:59:55 GETTING THAT DONE, AND JUST HOW EXCITED I AM, BUT NOW THAT
06:00:01 WHOLE AREA WILL CHANGE.
06:00:03 SO I AM JUST EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
06:00:05 [ APPLAUSE ]
06:00:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND MS. TRAVIS, WHEN I GO DOWN TO LEAGUE OF
06:00:14 CITIES NEXT MONTH, YOU KNOW HE'S GOING TO BEG YOU TO COME
06:00:18 BACK.
06:00:18 YOU KNOW THAT.
06:00:20 I AM NOT GOING TO LET YOU GO, OKAY?
06:00:23 EITHER ONE OF YOU GUYS.
06:00:26 WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA,
06:00:28 SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:00:32 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
06:00:33 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
06:00:34
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