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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, AUGUST 4, 2022
9:00 A.M.



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9:03:18AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:03:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:03:20AM WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD TODAY ON
9:03:25AM AUGUST 4, 2022.
9:03:28AM IF WE COULD ALL PLEASE RISE FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
9:03:34AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
9:03:36AM THANK YOU.
9:03:49AM JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF OUR
9:03:51AM COUNTRY.
9:03:51AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:03:53AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:04:09AM ROLL CALL.
9:04:12AM >>THE CLERK: CARLSON?
9:04:13AM VIERA?
9:04:14AM MANISCALCO?
9:04:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:04:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:04:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
9:04:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:04:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM HERE.
9:04:21AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:04:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MASSEY.
9:04:23AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: GOOD MORNING.
9:04:25AM THIS IS THE AUGUST 4, 2022, MEETING OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:04:28AM CITY COUNCIL HELD IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS IN THE THIRD
9:04:32AM FLOOR OF OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD HERE IN
9:04:35AM TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:04:36AM THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING IN PERSON OR VIEW
9:04:39AM IT BY CABLE TELEVISION ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640 OR FRONTIER
9:04:44AM CHANNEL 15 OR BY THE INTERNET VIA WWW.TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
9:04:50AM THE PUBLIC IS ALSO ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING
9:04:52AM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER
9:04:56AM SPEAKER EITHER HERE IN PERSON IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS OR
9:04:59AM VIRTUALLY BY WAY OF COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR CMT.
9:05:02AM HOWEVER, THE USE OF CMT DOES REQUIRE PREREGISTRATION WITH
9:05:05AM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
9:05:06AM DIRECTIONS FOR PREREGISTRATION ARE INCLUDED IN THE NOTICE OF
9:05:09AM THE MEETING AND ON THE AGENDA.
9:05:11AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ALSO PARTICIPATE IN QUASI-JUDICIAL
9:05:14AM MATTERS REMOTELY VIA CMT, BUT CELL PHONES AND SMART PHONES
9:05:18AM ARE NOT COMPATIBLE AS THEY WILL NOT ALLOW YOUR CAMERA WHEN
9:05:21AM CONNECTED.
9:05:21AM YOU MUST HAVE ACCESS TO A CMT DEVICE SUCH AS A TABLET OR A
9:05:25AM COMPUTER EQUIPPED WITH A CAMERA AND A MICROPHONE THAT WILL
9:05:28AM ENABLE YOU TO BE SEEN AND HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL AND ALL
9:05:31AM OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER.
9:05:33AM CAN I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION WAIVING CITY COUNCIL STANDARD
9:05:36AM RULES OF PROCEDURE TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT AND APPEARANCE BY
9:05:39AM CITY ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF BY CMT?
9:05:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:05:43AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:05:45AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:05:45AM AYE.
9:05:46AM I SEE THAT MADAM MAYOR IS ON THE LINE, HOWEVER, WE'LL GO
9:05:50AM THROUGH THE AGENDA AT THIS TIME.
9:05:52AM COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE NINE STAFF REPORTS TODAY.
9:05:57AM FIVE HAVE MEMOS.
9:05:59AM TWO OF THE FIVE ARE FINANCIAL THRESHOLD, BUT NEED APPROVING.
9:06:04AM ONE OF THE FIVE, NUMBER 7, I BELIEVE, IS ASKING FOR A
9:06:08AM CONTINUANCE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA TO AUGUST 25th.
9:06:12AM >> SO MOVED.

9:06:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES,
9:06:17AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:06:19AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:06:20AM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
9:06:22AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:06:23AM WITH THAT, I'M ASKING, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND RELEASE THE
9:06:32AM STAFFS FOR ITEMS 3 THROUGH 7?
9:06:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
9:06:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:06:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
9:06:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. BAIRD IS HERE FOR THE TOP-DOLLAR ITEMS
9:06:47AM SO THE PUBLIC CAN KNOW WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT AND WHY THEY ARE
9:06:50AM DOING THEM.
9:06:51AM THREE AND FOUR --
9:06:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP 5.
9:06:56AM 6 IS MOVING --
9:07:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONTINUANCE.
9:07:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO ITEM CONTINUE 6.
9:07:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:07:11AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:07:12AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:07:13AM NUMBER 5 WAS ASKED FOR A WRITTEN REPORT, BUT, OF COURSE, YOU
9:07:19AM WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE POLICE CHIEF HERE.
9:07:22AM COMING BACK AND SAYING NUMBER 2, CHIEF IS GOING TO GIVE US A
9:07:32AM QUICK OVERVIEW FOR A COUPLE OF THINGS.

9:07:34AM NUMBER 3 WE'RE KEEPING.
9:07:37AM 4 WE'RE KEEPING.
9:07:38AM 5 YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM CHIEF O'CONNOR.
9:07:41AM 6 AND 7 HAVE BEEN CONTINUED.
9:07:44AM 8 --
9:07:48AM >> YES.
9:07:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
9:07:49AM 9?
9:07:50AM >> YES.
9:07:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND, OF COURSE, 10.
9:07:52AM WE ALSO HAVE IF I CAN, THE ADDENDUM -- WHERE DID I PUT THAT?
9:08:02AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:08:04AM I GOT IT.
9:08:05AM SO MUCH PAPERWORK.
9:08:06AM REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE ON ITEM NUMBER 45.
9:08:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE TO AUGUST 25th, 2022
9:08:14AM AT 1:30 P.M.
9:08:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM GOING TO GO TO OUR CLERK.
9:08:18AM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
9:08:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL BRING IT UP AT 10:30.
9:08:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
9:08:23AM SO ARE WE SET?
9:08:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
9:08:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
9:08:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,

9:08:30AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:08:32AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:08:33AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:08:34AM THANK YOU.
9:08:36AM LET'S GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:08:45AM CHIEF, ARE YOU GOING TO DO ANY TYPE OF INTRODUCTIONS?
9:08:51AM BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW OUR MAYOR.
9:08:53AM WE'LL GO STRAIGHT TO THE MAYOR.
9:08:55AM MADAM MAYOR.
9:09:03AM >>MAYOR CASTOR: ALL RIGHT.
9:09:04AM THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CITRO AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:09:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MADAM MAYOR, FOR THE RECORD, COULD YOU
9:09:09AM PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME?
9:09:12AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:09:13AM >>MAYOR CASTOR: OH, IN CASE SOMEONE FORGOT.
9:09:17AM I AM MAYOR JANE CASTOR.
9:09:19AM VERY NICE TO SEE YOU THIS MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:09:23AM AS I SAID, HELLO FROM DUBLIN, IRELAND.
9:09:27AM I AM ACTUALLY SITTING IN RAPID7'S DUBLIN'S HEADQUARTERS.
9:09:30AM THAT COMPANY MAY SOUND FAMILIAR TO YOU BECAUSE JUST LESS
9:09:34AM THAN A YEAR AGO, RAPID7 OPENED A TAMPA OFFICE, AND IN THAT
9:09:39AM SHORT TIME, THEY HAVE GROWN TO OVER 60 EMPLOYEES WITH A GOAL
9:09:42AM OF ADDING HUNDREDS MORE HIGH-SKILLED JOBS IN THE NEXT THREE
9:09:46AM TO FIVE YEARS RIGHT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:09:50AM AS I SAID, I HAD HOPED TO BE WITH YOU IN PERSON FOR THIS

9:09:54AM PRESENTATION.
9:09:55AM THIS TRIP TO IRELAND HAS BEEN PLANNED FOR OVER THREE YEARS
9:10:00AM AND ALREADY PROVEN TO BE INCREDIBLY INSIGHTFUL AND
9:10:04AM ECONOMICALLY ADVANTAGEOUS FOR OUR CITY.
9:10:06AM THE CRAFTING OF THE CITY OF TAMPA'S 2023 BUDGET HAS BEEN
9:10:10AM VERY THOUGHTFUL AND INCLUSIVE, ALTHOUGH ARDUOUS, AND I WANT
9:10:15AM TO THANK EACH OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR YOUR COLLABORATION
9:10:17AM IN THIS EFFORT.
9:10:19AM THIS BUDGET ADDRESSES THE MANY NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT
9:10:24AM NONE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE CURRENT HOUSING CRISIS.
9:10:27AM IN ADDITION TO OUR MANY EFFORTS TO ADDRESS HOUSING OVER THE
9:10:31AM PAST FEW YEARS AND IN THIS BUDGET AS WELL, WE WILL REMAIN
9:10:37AM RELENTLESS IN ADDRESSING THIS CRISIS FROM EVERY POSSIBLE
9:10:41AM AVENUE.
9:10:42AM KNOWING THAT THOSE WHO MAY BE FACING EVICTION AND FOR MANY
9:10:46AM WHOSE RENTS HAVE DRAMATICALLY INCREASED, WE FULLY UNDERSTAND
9:10:50AM THAT RELIEF CANNOT COME QUICKLY ENOUGH.
9:10:53AM AGAIN, I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR
9:10:57AM LEADERSHIP AND YOUR COOPERATION AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
9:11:00AM WITH YOU ON THE PASSAGE OF THIS BUDGET, A BUDGET THAT WILL
9:11:05AM SERVE EVERY CORNER OF OUR COMMUNITY.
9:11:08AM THANK YOU.
9:11:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
9:11:13AM CHIEF?
9:11:25AM >> GOOD MORNING.

9:11:26AM I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR 2023 BUDGET
9:11:30AM TITLED "RESILIENT TAMPA."
9:11:31AM THIS BUDGET REFLECTS THE MANY CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH
9:11:36AM CITY COUNCIL ABOUT YOUR PRIORITIES AND BUILDS ON OUR SHARED
9:11:40AM COMMITMENT TO DEVELOPING A STRONGER FUTURE THROUGH LONG-TERM
9:11:44AM THINKING AND INVESTING.
9:11:46AM IT ALSO REFLECTS THE CITY'S ROCK-SOLID FINANCIAL FOOTING.
9:11:51AM THANKS TO THE WORK THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL, ADMINISTRATION,
9:11:54AM AND COMMUNITY HAVE DONE TOGETHER, TAMPA IS THRIVING.
9:11:58AM EVEN THE FORMIDABLE CHALLENGES WE FACE, LIKE PRESSING NEEDS
9:12:03AM FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND BETTER TRANSPORTATION
9:12:06AM INFRASTRUCTURE, REFLECT TAMPA'S SUCCESS IN BECOMING ONE OF
9:12:10AM AMERICA'S MOST EXCITING PLACES TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY.
9:12:14AM LET ME GIVE YOU A REPORT CARD FROM THE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA.
9:12:19AM THE PRELIMINARY RESULTS OF OUR 2022 CITY OF TAMPA COMMUNITY
9:12:24AM VALUE SURVEY OF 1300 CITY RESIDENTS REVEALED A FEW IMPORTANT
9:12:30AM METRICS.
9:12:31AM 93% OF TAMPA RESIDENTS SAID THEY WOULD RECOMMEND TAMPA TO A
9:12:36AM FRIEND, FAMILY MEMBER, OR ACQUAINTANCE AS A PLACE TO LIVE.
9:12:40AM 92% WOULD RECOMMEND TAMPA AS A PLACE TO WORK.
9:12:44AM 90% AS A PLACE TO RAISE CHILDREN.
9:12:47AM 89% RECOMMENDED TAMPA AS A PLACE TO OPEN A BUSINESS.
9:12:52AM 91% RECOMMENDED TAMPA AS A PLACE TO VACATION AND 92% SAID
9:12:58AM THEY HAVE TRUST AND CONFIDENCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:13:01AM GOVERNMENT WHEN IT COMES TO HANDLING CITY ISSUES.

9:13:04AM EVEN AFTER TWO YEARS OF COVID AND AN ERA OF DIVISION IN OUR
9:13:10AM COUNTRY AND STATE, TAMPA RESIDENTS ARE PRACTICALLY UNANIMOUS
9:13:14AM IN APPRECIATING THE DIRECTION THIS COMMUNITY IS HEADING.
9:13:17AM BUT I DON'T NEED TO TELL ANYONE HERE ON CITY COUNCIL THAT WE
9:13:21AM STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
9:13:23AM TAMPA'S ECONOMIC EXPANSION AND RISING PROPERTY VALUES ARE
9:13:28AM EXPECTED TO GENERATE AN ADDITIONAL $40 MILLION, INCLUDING
9:13:33AM ABOUT $8 MILLION FOR YOU TO ALLOCATE TO 10 CRA DISTRICTS.
9:13:38AM INFLATION IS DRIVING UP OUR COSTS OF DELIVERING SERVICES
9:13:42AM JUST AS IT'S DRIVING UP EVERYONE'S COSTS.
9:13:45AM CFO DENNIS ROGERO WILL GET INTO THE NITTY-GRITTY OF OUR
9:13:49AM BUDGET PROPOSAL SHORTLY.
9:13:50AM HOWEVER, YOU'LL FIND ONE OF THE BIGGEST DRIVERS IN THIS
9:13:53AM BUDGET TO BE NEW CONTRACTS WITH OUR THREE UNIONS, AS THEY
9:13:58AM REPRESENT TWO-THIRDS OF TAMPA'S WORKFORCE.
9:14:00AM TAMPA'S CONSUMER PRICE INDEX HAS SPIKED HIGHER THAN MOST
9:14:05AM ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY.
9:14:06AM I FELT IT IMPORTANT TO STAND BEHIND THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO
9:14:10AM SERVE OUR RESIDENTS SO WELL.
9:14:12AM WHILE MANY PEOPLE WORK FROM HOME THROUGH MUCH OF THE
9:14:15AM PANDEMIC, THESE MEN AND WOMEN REMAINED ON THE FRONT LINES.
9:14:19AM THEY WERE OUT FIXING BROKEN PIPES, TESTING OUR WATER,
9:14:23AM COLLECTING OUR TRASH AND RECYCLING, AND SAVING LIVES.
9:14:26AM TO KEEP US RESILIENT, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO RECRUIT AND
9:14:31AM RETAIN THE TALENT WE HAVE.

9:14:33AM THIS PAY INCREASE IS NOT ONLY NECESSARY BUT WELL-DESERVED.
9:14:37AM HERE'S OUR PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 TO ADDRESS THE
9:14:43AM SUSTAINABILITY, RESILIENCY, AND THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR
9:14:47AM COMMUNITY.
9:14:47AM A BUDGET IS THE ULTIMATE REFLECTION OF A CITY'S VALUES AND
9:14:53AM PRIORITIES.
9:14:53AM THERE IS NO GREATER PRIORITY FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION OR THIS
9:14:58AM COUNCIL THAN HOUSING.
9:15:00AM THAT'S WHY WE COMMITTED MORE THAN $100 MILLION TO
9:15:04AM HOUSING-RELATED SERVICES DURING OUR ADMINISTRATION.
9:15:07AM I WILL AGGRESSIVELY PROMOTE HOUSING IN THE NEXT BUDGET, TOO.
9:15:12AM MY GOAL IS TO CREATE 10,000 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS BY
9:15:16AM 2027, AND I'M PROUD TO SAY WE ARE MORE THAN HALFWAY THERE.
9:15:21AM WE UNDERSTAND WHEN WE INVEST IN HOUSING, WE INVEST IN
9:15:26AM PEOPLE.
9:15:27AM LAST YEAR, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, THE CITY
9:15:31AM DESIGNATED GENERAL FUND MONEY TOWARD HOUSING AFFORDABILITY
9:15:35AM AND STABILITY FOR OUR TAMPA RESIDENTS.
9:15:38AM WE PROPOSED DOING THAT AGAIN NEXT YEAR WITH $5.5 MILLION IN
9:15:43AM GENERAL FUND MONEY AND $20 MILLION OVERALL FOR
9:15:46AM HOUSING-RELATED SERVICES.
9:15:48AM THAT INCLUDES A DETAILED HOUSING STUDY WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH
9:15:53AM CITY COUNCIL TO BETTER ANALYZE OUR EXISTING HOUSING STOCK
9:15:56AM AND FUTURE NEEDS.
9:15:58AM IN FACT, WE'RE ADDING PERSONNEL AND STRENGTHENING THE

9:16:02AM DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY DEPARTMENT, WHICH
9:16:05AM INCLUDES HOUSING, TO BETTER SERVE OUR RESIDENTS.
9:16:09AM IT WILL HELP US TACKLE THIS HOUSING CRISIS QUICKER, MORE
9:16:12AM EFFICIENTLY, AND WITH ADDED ACCOUNTABILITY.
9:16:14AM IT WILL ALSO HELP US IMPROVE OUR LONG-TERM PLANNING, WHICH
9:16:18AM IS CRITICAL AT A TIME OF EXPLOSIVE GROWTH.
9:16:23AM HEALTHY INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE FOUNDATION OF A STRONG CITY,
9:16:28AM WHICH IS WHY THE CITY OF TAMPA, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
9:16:32AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, LAUNCHED THE PIPES PROGRAM.
9:16:35AM SO FAR, THE CITY HAS COMPLETED 22 PIPES PROGRAMS WORTH MORE
9:16:39AM THAN $66 MILLION.
9:16:41AM CURRENTLY, WE HAVE 90 PIPES PROJECTS IN THE WORKS WORTH MORE
9:16:46AM THAN $1 BILLION AND 22 OF THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN CLOSED
9:16:51AM OUT.
9:16:52AM BOTH TO CUT COSTS AND TO SPEED UP CONSTRUCTION, WE WANT TO
9:16:55AM ADD TWO CONSTRUCTION CREWS TO HANDLE ROUTINE WATER PIPELINE
9:16:58AM WORK RATHER THAN HAVING TO RELY ON PRIVATE CONTRACTORS.
9:17:02AM FOR MOBILITY, WE WILL CONTINUE TO CREATE PREMIUM TRANSIT
9:17:07AM CORRIDORS ALONG THE MAJOR TRANSPORTATION SPINE OF OUR CITY.
9:17:11AM THIS WILL CONNECT THE WESTSHORE DISTRICT TO DOWNTOWN AND
9:17:14AM DOWNTOWN TO THE UNIVERSITY AREA.
9:17:16AM WE WILL ALSO KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING IN MODERNIZING THE
9:17:20AM TAMPA STREETCAR SYSTEM AND EXTENSION TO TAMPA HEIGHTS.
9:17:24AM ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY WILL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR FOWLER
9:17:27AM AVENUE TO BE A GATEWAY BOULEVARD WITH DEDICATED TRANSIT

9:17:31AM LANES AND LAND USE FRAMEWORK.
9:17:33AM THE CITY WILL ALSO IMPLEMENT THE FIRST YEAR OF THE VISION
9:17:37AM ZERO ACTION PLAN WITH NEW QUICK-BUILD PROJECTS.
9:17:41AM ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE CONSTRUCTING MORE THAN TWO MILES OF NEW
9:17:45AM SIDEWALKS.
9:17:45AM SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY ARE AT THE CENTER OF
9:17:50AM EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
9:17:52AM IN THE NEXT YEAR, THE CITY WILL SUPPORT SEVERAL
9:17:54AM NEIGHBORHOOD-LEVEL STUDIES.
9:17:56AM THIS WILL HELP US PRIORITIZE ISSUES LIKE URBAN HEAT, COASTAL
9:18:00AM PROTECTION, AND WATER SECURITY.
9:18:03AM WE WILL ALSO INSTALL HUNDREDS OF NEW SOLAR PANELS AND
9:18:07AM IMPLEMENT NEW ENERGY SAVING PROGRAMS.
9:18:11AM IN FISCAL YEAR '23, WE WILL FOCUS ON STAFF RECRUITMENT,
9:18:15AM ENSURING THERE IS A PIPELINE OF DIVERSE QUALIFIED APPLICANTS
9:18:19AM WHO CAN COMPETE FOR JOBS.
9:18:21AM CITY LEADERS WILL ALSO MAKE SURE UNDERREPRESENTED BUSINESSES
9:18:25AM ARE AFFORDED WITH OPPORTUNITIES TO COMPETE ON GOVERNMENT
9:18:29AM CONTRACTS.
9:18:30AM WE'LL DO THIS THROUGH GREAT PROGRAMS LIKE BRIDGES TO
9:18:33AM BUSINESS.
9:18:34AM YOU'LL ALSO FIND BEAUTY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION BROUGHT TO
9:18:38AM THE FOREFRONT THROUGH THE SOUL WALK HERITAGE TOUR OF TAMPA.
9:18:43AM IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LOCAL MUSEUMS AND STAKEHOLDERS, WE WILL
9:18:46AM CELEBRATE THOSE LOST AREAS IN THE FABRIC OF TAMPA'S HISTORY.

9:18:50AM THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL CONTINUE TO ATTRACT NEW TALENT TO OUR
9:18:56AM WORKFORCE.
9:18:56AM WE WILL HELP CONNECT JOB SEEKERS DIRECTLY WITH HIRING
9:19:00AM MANAGERS AT EVENTS LIKE SIGNING DAY AND PROVIDE ACCESS TO
9:19:04AM APPRENTICESHIP TRAINING AND OTHER CAREER LEARNING.
9:19:07AM ADDITIONALLY, THE MAYOR'S WORKFORCE COUNCIL WILL HELP US
9:19:11AM IDENTIFY WHERE TAMPA NEEDS NEW WORKERS THE MOST.
9:19:14AM WE'LL ALSO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE ONLINE RESOURCES LIKE
9:19:17AM TPA-WRX.
9:19:19AM THE CITY OF TAMPA REMAINS A FISCALLY PRUDENT GOVERNMENT.
9:19:24AM THIS YEAR, WE WILL CONTINUE BUILDING ON OUR GREAT CREDIT
9:19:27AM RATINGS, WHICH HELP US STRETCH OUR DOLLARS FAR WIDER THAN
9:19:31AM OTHER LESS DISCIPLINED COMMUNITIES.
9:19:33AM A CRUCIAL PART OF THAT IS MAINTAINING MORE THAN 22% OF OUR
9:19:37AM BUDGET IN RESERVES, A PRACTICE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE IN '23.
9:19:43AM THIS IS SUCH AN EXCITING TIME FOR US AS WE TRANSFORM TAMPA'S
9:19:48AM TOMORROW.
9:19:48AM I APPRECIATE WHAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL DOES TO SERVE THIS
9:19:52AM WONDERFUL COMMUNITY.
9:19:53AM I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER TO FINALIZE THIS BUDGET
9:19:57AM AND TO CONTINUE OUR MOMENTUM THROUGHOUT NEXT YEAR.
9:20:01AM THERE IS NO LIMIT TO WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH TOGETHER.
9:20:05AM NOW, LET'S BRING UP THE MONEY MAN, DENNIS ROGERO.
9:20:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAYOR CASTOR IS IN IRELAND WITH THE TAMPA
9:20:20AM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND I AM HOPING THAT SHE IS -- FOR

9:20:26AM SOME BUSINESSES TO START HERE IN TAMPA, AND I HOPE THAT SHE
9:20:30AM RETURNS WITH A FOUR-LEAF CLOVER TO GIVE US GOOD LUCK AND
9:20:34AM PROSPERITIES IN THE NEXT COMING YEAR.
9:20:37AM AS COUNCIL KNOWS, WE HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS PROPOSALS
9:20:40AM WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON AUGUST 16th.
9:20:44AM AFTER THAT, WE HAD TIME -- AFTER WE HAVE HAD TIME TO REVIEW
9:20:49AM IT, PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 6 AND
9:20:52AM SEPTEMBER 20th.
9:20:55AM BUT TODAY WE WILL RECEIVE AN OVERVIEW FROM MR. ROGERO.
9:20:59AM TAKE IT AWAY, MR. ROGERO.
9:21:01AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND GOOD MORNING,
9:21:03AM COUNCIL.
9:21:03AM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
9:21:06AM I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING US HERE TO BRIEF YOU.
9:21:09AM THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF A GREAT DEAL OF EFFORT ON YOUR
9:21:12AM PART, ON OUR PART, AND ON THE PART OF THE PUBLIC.
9:21:15AM IF I CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
9:21:19AM AND YOU SEE THE AGENDA THERE.
9:21:25AM WE'LL BEGIN WITH FISCAL YEAR '23 RECOMMENDED BUDGET, MOVING
9:21:28AM ON TO OUR CONTINUING SUCCESS IN THE GRANT RESEARCH, AND
9:21:33AM COMPETITIVE GRANT PROGRAM.
9:21:34AM WE HAVE A GOOD STORY TO TELL YOU THERE.
9:21:36AM CONTINUING WITH THE GOOD STORY, WE HAVE THE CAPITAL
9:21:38AM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND CLOSELY LINKED TO THAT OUR DEBT
9:21:42AM PROGRAM FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

9:21:44AM SO LET'S DIVE RIGHT IN.
9:21:49AM HERE IT IS, COUNCIL.
9:21:52AM 1.9 BILLION -- I'M ROUNDING -- BUT $1.9 BILLION FOR FISCAL
9:21:58AM YEAR '23, AN INCREASE OF JUST UNDER 4% FROM THE CURRENT YEAR
9:22:03AM BUDGET.
9:22:04AM I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME HIGHLIGHTS THAT ARE
9:22:07AM ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE INCREASES.
9:22:08AM YOU'VE GOT ADDITIONAL STAFFING.
9:22:10AM WE'VE HEARD COUNCIL SAY ON MANY OCCASIONS THAT WE NEED TO
9:22:13AM STAFF UP.
9:22:14AM YOU'LL SEE THAT REFLECTED IN THIS BUDGET, INCLUDING THE
9:22:16AM HOUSING DEPARTMENT, TRANSPORTATION, WATER, PARKING
9:22:20AM ENFORCEMENT, AND PLANNING AND PERMITTING.
9:22:23AM A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS CONTRIBUTING TO THIS INCREASE FROM
9:22:26AM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR, THE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY
9:22:29AM REDEVELOPMENT AREA CONTRIBUTIONS, AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE
9:22:32AM BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
9:22:35AM ADDITIONAL POLICE, FIRE, AND RESCUE EQUIPMENT.
9:22:38AM HIGHER FUEL COSTS.
9:22:40AM OF COURSE, THAT SHOULD BE NO SURPRISE.
9:22:42AM ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR VEHICLES.
9:22:44AM AS WE'LL GET INTO IN JUST A MINUTE, WE CONTINUE TO
9:22:47AM CONCENTRATE ON CATCHING UP WITH OUR NEW VEHICLES AND VEHICLE
9:22:51AM REPLACEMENTS.
9:22:51AM WE'VE GOT A LOT OF NEEDS OUT THERE.

9:22:54AM CONTINUED FUNDING OF THE WASTEWATER AND WATER PROJECTS.
9:22:57AM EXPANSION OF OUR SOLID WASTE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
9:23:01AM WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.
9:23:03AM INCREASED FUNDING FOR PARKS AND RECREATION.
9:23:05AM AND, OF COURSE, THE RECENTLY NEGOTIATED LABOR CONTRACTS.
9:23:09AM YOU SEE HERE THE BREAKOUT OF THE MAJOR FUNDS.
9:23:13AM WE'RE GOING TO CONCENTRATE ON THE GENERAL FUND AND THE
9:23:16AM ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
9:23:16AM YOU SEE THOSE UP THERE.
9:23:18AM THEY MAKE UP THREE-QUARTERS OF THE BUDGET, WHERE MOST OF OUR
9:23:22AM SERVICES ARE PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC AND ESPECIALLY IN OUR
9:23:26AM PUBLIC SAFETY REALM, MOST OF THE GENERAL FUND.
9:23:29AM AND HERE ARE THOSE TWO CATEGORIES.
9:23:35AM ON THE LEFT, THE GENERAL FUND, AGAIN, HOME OF THE TAMPA FIRE
9:23:39AM AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR PARKS AND
9:23:41AM RECREATION DEPARTMENT, THE CONVENTION CENTER, NEIGHBORHOOD
9:23:46AM AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT SUPPORT
9:23:50AM OPERATIONS.
9:23:52AM ON THE RIGHT, THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
9:23:54AM YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE.
9:23:55AM THOSE ARE OUR DEPARTMENTS THAT RUN LIKE A BUSINESS.
9:23:59AM IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR THEY WOULD BE COMPELLED TO MAKE A
9:24:01AM PROFIT OR GO OUT OF BUSINESS, SO THEY CHARGE FOR THE
9:24:04AM SERVICES DIRECTLY THAT THEY PROVIDE.
9:24:06AM AS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE, THE MONEY THEY CHARGE CAN ONLY BE

9:24:10AM SPENT ON THEIR SERVICES.
9:24:12AM AGAIN, THEY RUN LIKE A BUSINESS.
9:24:14AM WATER, WASTEWATER, AND SOLID WASTE PRIMARILY.
9:24:17AM AND WE'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE.
9:24:23AM WE PUT THIS UP HERE TO NOTE TWO IMPORTANT DRIVERS OF OUR
9:24:27AM PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.
9:24:29AM PROPERTY TAX OUR SINGLE LARGEST REVENUE.
9:24:33AM ALTHOUGH IT ONLY -- I SAY "ONLY" -- ONLY ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT
9:24:37AM ONE-SIXTH OF THE TOTAL BUDGET, IT IS A BIG CONTRIBUTOR TO
9:24:41AM OUR GENERAL FUND.
9:24:41AM AGAIN, THE GENERAL FUND IS THE FUNDING WE HAVE THE MOST
9:24:45AM FLEXIBILITY WITH WHAT WE SPEND.
9:24:48AM AND YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT, WE DISPLAY THE IMPACT OF THE
9:24:51AM CONTRIBUTIONS REQUIRED TO THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
9:24:53AM AGENCIES, THE CRAs.
9:24:57AM OVER $40 MILLION.
9:24:59AM AND ON THE LEFT, AGAIN, WE REITERATE THE PROPERTY TAXES BY
9:25:04AM THEMSELVES SIMPLY AREN'T ENOUGH TO PAY FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY
9:25:08AM SERVICES.
9:25:09AM I DON'T THINK THEY'VE BEEN ENOUGH IN MY MEMORY, AND I DON'T
9:25:12AM ANTICIPATE THEY WILL EVER BE ENOUGH TO PAY FOR OUR PUBLIC
9:25:16AM SAFETY SERVICES.
9:25:17AM BREAKING DOWN THE GENERAL FUND INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE
9:25:22AM DETAIL, I'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE TOP INCREASES.
9:25:26AM OF COURSE, PAY INCREASES AT THE TOP.

9:25:28AM YOU'VE HEARD THE MAYOR, YOU'VE HEARD THE CHIEF OF STAFF
9:25:31AM DISCUSS THE RECRUITMENT, RETENTION, AND REWARD OF OUR
9:25:34AM VALUABLE EMPLOYEES, AND THAT WILL BE THE COST IN FISCAL YEAR
9:25:38AM '23 IN THE GENERAL FUND.
9:25:41AM WE HAVE VARIOUS OPERATING INCREASES THAT WE CAN GET INTO
9:25:44AM DETAIL AND ARE DETAILED IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT.
9:25:47AM THE CRA CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE JUST MENTIONED, AGAIN, A
9:25:51AM SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FUNDING.
9:25:52AM AND ONCE AGAIN, YOU HEARD THE MAYOR SAY GENERAL FUNDING FOR
9:25:56AM HOUSING ASSISTANCE.
9:25:57AM WE STARTED OUT THE YEAR WITH 4 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL
9:26:01AM FUND.
9:26:02AM WE'RE CRANKING THAT UP TO 5.5 MILLION, ABOUT A THIRD PERCENT
9:26:06AM INCREASE.
9:26:07AM BUT AS YOU ALSO HEARD THE MAYOR SAY, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY
9:26:11AM FUNDING GOING TO HOUSING.
9:26:12AM WE'VE GOT OVER $20 MILLION IN NEW REVENUE TOTAL FOR FISCAL
9:26:16AM YEAR '23.
9:26:18AM I ALSO WANT TO MENTION WE'VE GOT THE 400,000 SET ASIDE FOR
9:26:22AM THE COUNCIL'S REQUEST ON TENANT ADVOCACY.
9:26:26AM AND MS. TRAVIS WILL BE UP LATER TO DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL
9:26:30AM THE BROAD-BASED, ENCOMPASSING RESOURCES THAT WE'RE PUTTING
9:26:35AM AND THAT WE HAVE PUT TOWARDS THE HOUSING CRISIS.
9:26:39AM COUNCIL, YOU HAVE ASKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE PAY INCREASES
9:26:44AM FOR NEXT YEAR.

9:26:45AM OF COURSE, YOU'RE AWARE OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
9:26:49AM AGREEMENTS OF 9.5%.
9:26:51AM YOU SEE ALSO HERE THAT FOR THE PROFESSIONALS AND THE
9:26:54AM UNCLASSIFIEDS AND THE SUPERVISORS, WE'RE MIMICKING THAT
9:26:58AM RATE, 9.5%.
9:27:00AM MOVING ON TO THE MANAGERS, WE HAVE A 6% INCREASE PLANNED FOR
9:27:04AM THEM.
9:27:05AM YOU SEE THAT THE DIRECTORS AND THE ADMINISTRATORS ARE STILL
9:27:09AM PENDING.
9:27:10AM ELECTED OFFICIALS, INCLUDING CITY COUNCIL, IS 3%.
9:27:16AM I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO GET INTO
9:27:20AM A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT WE PLAN IN FISCAL YEAR '23
9:27:23AM FOR COUNCIL SALARIES.
9:27:25AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:27:26AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:27:27AM DURING THE PLANNING CYCLE, WHICH REALLY LAUNCHED IN FY '22
9:27:32AM FOR FY '23, THERE HAD BEEN SOME PUBLIC COMMENT, ROBUST
9:27:36AM PUBLIC COMMENT, AND SOME NON-MOTION ASKS FROM CERTAIN
9:27:39AM COUNCIL TO TAKE A LOOK AT COUNCIL SALARY AS WE MOVE INTO FY
9:27:43AM '23.
9:27:44AM AND I WANT TO THANK SOME OF THE THAN GROUP FOR THEIR
9:27:52AM ANALYSIS AND ENGAGEMENT TOWARD CITY STAFF.
9:27:54AM I WANT TO THANK IAN WHITNEY AND MARLEY WILKES FOR THEIR WORK
9:27:58AM IN INTERGOVERNMENTAL ANALYSES.
9:28:02AM WE BROUGHT FORTH A RECOMMENDATION TO INCREASE COUNCIL'S

9:28:05AM SALARY AS PART OF THE FY '23 BUDGET RECOMMENDATION TO WHAT
9:28:08AM WOULD BE CONSIDERED THE MEDIAN SALARY FOR THIS TYPE OF WORK
9:28:11AM BASED ON OTHER COMPARATORS IN CENTRAL FLORIDA.
9:28:16AM THAT WOULD BRING THE SALARY, WHICH IS CURRENTLY $52,060, UP
9:28:20AM TO A RECOMMENDED $73,713, WHICH IS ANALYTICALLY ON PAR WITH
9:28:26AM YOUR PEERS ON SIMILAR GOVERNMENTS, INCLUDING THE CITY OF
9:28:30AM ST. PETE AND THE CITY OF ORLANDO.
9:28:31AM SO THAT IS AN INCREASE RECOMMENDED IN THE BUDGET.
9:28:34AM IT'S NOT ON A SLIDE.
9:28:36AM WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT FURTHER, BUT THAT'S WHAT STAFF, THROUGH
9:28:39AM ADDITIONAL SUPPORT AND ANALYSIS, IS RECOMMENDING TO CHANGE
9:28:43AM COUNCIL'S BASE SALARY AS OF FY '23.
9:28:51AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
9:28:52AM IF I CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION -- AND THERE IT IS.
9:28:54AM CONTINUING ON WITH THE GENERAL FUND, AGAIN, A SUBJECT VERY
9:29:01AM NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEART, THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE.
9:29:04AM WE'RE GOING TO ZERO IN ON THAT.
9:29:06AM AND I REALLY CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT THIS METRIC
9:29:10AM IS.
9:29:11AM ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL'S CONTINUING SUPPORT OF
9:29:14AM THIS FUND -- THESE FUND BALANCE LEVELS.
9:29:17AM AS YOU CAN SEE, GOING LEFT TO RIGHT, THE AMOUNT IN THE FUND
9:29:21AM BALANCE CONTINUES TO INCREASE, AND THAT'S TYPICAL BECAUSE
9:29:25AM IT'S A RATIO TO THE BUDGET.
9:29:26AM AS THE BUDGET INCREASES, THE AMOUNT WILL ALSO INCREASE.

9:29:30AM BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF THOSE BARS, YOU'LL SEE THAT
9:29:33AM THE PERCENTAGE IS REVERTING BACK TO PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS.
9:29:38AM 23%, 24%.
9:29:40AM THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT, AND THIS IS WHAT WE
9:29:44AM ANTICIPATE, AS WE SPEND DOWN THE FEDERAL STIMULUS THAT
9:29:48AM CONTRIBUTED TO THOSE HIGH LEVELS IN THE PAST COUPLE OF
9:29:52AM YEARS.
9:29:52AM WE'RE STILL, AS YOU KNOW, WELL ABOVE OUR 20% POLICY.
9:29:56AM OUR POLICY -- OUR 20% POLICY IS CERTAINLY NOT A GOAL AND
9:30:00AM IT'S NOT A LIMIT.
9:30:01AM WE CONTINUE TO TRY TO EXCEED THAT.
9:30:03AM THAT CONTRIBUTES TO OUR STABILITY AND RESILIENCY.
9:30:06AM SO, I GUESS, THE TAKEAWAY FROM HERE IS THIS RETURN TO A
9:30:11AM CONSISTENT AND PRE-PANDEMIC LEVEL VERY, VERY STABLE.
9:30:16AM IT'S A VERY, VERY STABLE PICTURE.
9:30:18AM THIS IS A WONDERFUL SLIDE REFLECTING THE STRENGTH OF OUR
9:30:21AM GENERAL FUND.
9:30:22AM OUR CITYWIDE POSITION SUMMARY, AGAIN, COUNCIL HAS INDICATED
9:30:28AM TO US THAT YOU'D LIKE INCREASED STAFFING.
9:30:30AM YOU SEE IT HERE.
9:30:31AM WE'RE ADDING A TOTAL OF 70 POSITIONS CITYWIDE.
9:30:35AM YOU SEE THEM HERE GROUPED BY STRATEGIC GOAL.
9:30:39AM IN THE BUDGET BOOK, YOU'LL SEE THEM GROUPED BY DEPARTMENT,
9:30:41AM BUT THEY INCLUDE HOUSING, PERMITTING, AS I MENTIONED,
9:30:44AM TRANSPORTATION, WATER.

9:30:47AM A SIGNIFICANT INFLUX IN RESOURCES FOR THE EVER-EXPANDING
9:30:51AM SERVICES THAT THE CITY CONTINUES TO PROVIDE.
9:30:54AM AT THE TOP, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ARE STILL WELL BELOW WHAT WE
9:30:59AM WERE FOLLOWING THE GREAT RECESSION, OVER 150 POSITIONS LESS
9:31:05AM THAN THAT.
9:31:06AM AND THAT WILL BE A NICE SEGUE INTO THIS CHART HERE.
9:31:10AM YOU SEE NOTWITHSTANDING THE POSITION INCREASES I JUST
9:31:14AM MENTIONED, WE CONTINUE TO REDUCE OUR RATIO OF EMPLOYEES TO
9:31:19AM THE POPULATION.
9:31:20AM YOU MAY RECALL THAT IN THE CURRENT YEAR, WE WERE TIED WITH
9:31:24AM ST. PETERSBURG FOR LOWEST.
9:31:25AM WE REMAINED TIED WITH THEM, BUT THAT LINE GOING FROM LEFT TO
9:31:29AM RIGHT, YOU SEE THAT AS A GRADUAL AND PLANNED DECLINE OF I
9:31:34AM GUESS WHAT WE WOULD CALL RIGHT-SIZING OUR STAFF.
9:31:38AM AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'VE HAD INCREASES IN POPULATION.
9:31:40AM YOU'VE HAD INCREASES IN SERVICE DEMANDS, AND YET THAT LINE
9:31:45AM CONTINUES TO GO DOWN.
9:31:46AM SOME OF THAT, IS DOING MORE WITH LESS.
9:31:49AM YOU'VE HEARD IT BEFORE.
9:31:50AM I'M SURE YOU'LL HEAR IT AGAIN BUT ALSO TECHNOLOGICAL
9:31:53AM ADVANCES.
9:31:54AM AS WE BRING IN MORE TECHNOLOGY, AND WE'RE GETTING VERY, VERY
9:31:58AM TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED, WE CAN REDUCE OR REALLOCATE
9:32:02AM PERSONNEL RESOURCES TO OTHER FUNCTIONS.
9:32:04AM OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, THE NEEDS DON'T STOP AND THEY DON'T

9:32:07AM SHRINK.
9:32:08AM BUT, AGAIN, A VERY NICE PICTURE FROM A STABLE AND
9:32:16AM CONSERVATIVE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE, AND THAT'S
9:32:19AM REALLY WHAT WE'VE BECOME KNOWN FOR.
9:32:22AM CITYWIDE HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS, WE LOVE SHOWING THIS SLIDE.
9:32:31AM WE CONTINUE TO DO MUCH BETTER THAN THE NATIONAL TREND.
9:32:34AM WE CAN BE VERY PROUD OF THAT.
9:32:36AM I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE.
9:32:40AM WE CONTINUE TO FEEL OUR WELLNESS CENTERS ARE JUST HITTING
9:32:44AM THE BALL RIGHT OUT OF THE PARK, ESPECIALLY DURING THE
9:32:46AM PANDEMIC WITH COVID TESTING, COVID VACCINATIONS.
9:32:49AM AND OUR BROAD-BASED WELLNESS PROGRAM THAT ENDEAVORS TO
9:32:53AM INCLUDE FAMILY, NOT JUST EMPLOYEES, BUT THEIR SPOUSES, THEIR
9:32:57AM PARTNERS, THEIR CHILDREN.
9:32:59AM AND YOU'RE SEEING IT PAY OFF NOW.
9:33:01AM I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'LL EVER SEE HEALTH CARE COSTS
9:33:04AM DECREASE, BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY DOING A VERY, VERY GOOD JOB OF
9:33:09AM MITIGATING THAT RATE OF INCREASE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU
9:33:12AM COMPARE IT TO THE NATIONWIDE TREND.
9:33:15AM AND VEHICLES, YOU HEARD ME MENTION VEHICLES EARLIER.
9:33:20AM WE CONTINUE TO LASER FOCUS ON NEW AND REPLACEMENT VEHICLES.
9:33:24AM AS MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE, FOLLOWING THE GREAT RECESSION, WE
9:33:28AM HAD TO MAKE PRIORITIES AND IN MANY IN AN PRIORITIZATION DID
9:33:35AM NOT INCLUDE BUYING THE VEHICLES THAT WE NEEDED TO KEEP
9:33:37AM RUNNING AS EFFICIENTLY AS WE CAN.

9:33:39AM WE'RE, AGAIN, THROWING ANOTHER $33 MILLION, A LITTLE MORE,
9:33:44AM LITTLE LESS THAN WE DID IN THE CURRENT YEAR FOR VEHICLES.
9:33:47AM ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT IS GOING TO POLICE AND FIRE.
9:33:50AM I WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT OUR GRANT RESEARCH AND
9:33:57AM COMPETITIVE GRANT PROGRAM.
9:33:59AM WE CONTINUE TO REAP THE BENEFITS, AS YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY IN
9:34:03AM THE PAST, OF A MORE PROACTIVE AND COORDINATED APPROACH.
9:34:08AM WE'VE REALIGNED SOME RESOURCES IN THE BACK OFFICES, SO WE'RE
9:34:13AM ALL SINGING FROM ONE PAGE, WHETHER IT'S THE REVENUE AND
9:34:15AM FINANCE DEPARTMENT, WHETHER IT'S THE WATER DEPARTMENT, THE
9:34:18AM HOUSING DEPARTMENT, SO WE CAN BETTER FOCUS AND LEVERAGE OUR
9:34:22AM RESOURCES TO GET WHAT WE AFFECTIONATELY CALL "OTHER PEOPLE'S
9:34:26AM MONEY."
9:34:26AM AND YOU SEE HERE, WE CONTINUE TO BE VERY AMBITIOUS.
9:34:32AM WE'LL BE AIMING FOR NEARLY $140 MILLION OF COMPETITIVE
9:34:36AM GRANTS NEXT YEAR.
9:34:37AM AND THESE ARE THE COMPETITIVE GRANTS, NOT THE ENTITLEMENT
9:34:40AM GRANTS.
9:34:42AM THEY ARE NOT JUST GIVING THESE AWAY.
9:34:44AM SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL GET THEM ALL, BUT WE'RE
9:34:47AM GOING TO GIVE IT THE OLD COLLEGE TRY.
9:34:49AM AND, AGAIN, THE MORE AMBITIOUS WE GET AND THE WIDER NET THAT
9:34:53AM WE CAST, THE MORE OPPORTUNITIES WE CREATE FOR OURSELVES,
9:34:58AM EITHER TO BOLSTER EXISTING SERVICES OR IF WE FIND AN
9:35:01AM OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO BUT HAVEN'T HAD THE

9:35:04AM RESOURCES TO DO, WE CAN FIND THEM AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.
9:35:08AM AND YOU SEE OUR PROGRESS THIS YEAR.
9:35:13AM NEARLY 70 MILLION APPLIED FOR ALREADY.
9:35:15AM WE STILL HAVE ABOUT TWO MONTHS LEFT IN THE YEAR.
9:35:17AM AND OVER A QUARTER OF THOSE WERE AWARDED TO US, ABOUT $20
9:35:20AM MILLION.
9:35:21AM AGAIN, THIS IS COMPETITION.
9:35:23AM WE'RE COMPETING WITH OTHER LOCALITIES.
9:35:26AM AND A BRIEF HISTORY, YOU CAN ALSO SEE HOW, SINCE WE RAMPED
9:35:33AM UP THIS PROGRAM IN 2020, WE ARE REAPING THE BENEFITS.
9:35:37AM AS I SAID, SPEAKING OF $70 MILLION, THAT'S HOW MUCH WE'VE
9:35:40AM BEEN AWARDED IN LESS THAN THREE YEARS.
9:35:43AM YOU SEE WHAT WE'VE GOT IN THE CURRENT YEAR, AND WE'VE STILL
9:35:46AM GOT ABOUT $25 MILLION IN REQUESTS PENDING.
9:35:49AM SO I WANT TO THANK MY TEAM.
9:35:50AM I WANT TO THANK THE PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH THE OTHER
9:35:54AM DEPARTMENTS AND IN SOME INSTANCES, NONPROFITS IN GAINING
9:35:58AM THIS FUNDING.
9:35:59AM I DON'T NEED TO SAY IT, BUT I'LL SAY IT.
9:36:03AM IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS FUNDING WE EITHER WOULDN'T BE DOING
9:36:06AM IT OR WE WOULD BE TAKING IT FROM ELSEWHERE.
9:36:08AM THIS IS A VERY BIG WIN, AND I THINK IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A
9:36:10AM VERY BIG WIN.
9:36:11AM MOVING ON NOW TO OUR FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
9:36:16AM AGAIN, A VERY SIGNIFICANT COMPONENT OF WHAT YOU ALL WILL

9:36:20AM REVIEW.
9:36:21AM AND HERE IT IS.
9:36:22AM $1.9 BILLION.
9:36:24AM NEARLY $2 BILLION OF RECOMMENDED PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE
9:36:28AM YEARS.
9:36:29AM VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT PLAN.
9:36:32AM I THINK I'VE SHARED WITH YOU BEFORE, WE'VE GOT AN AGGRESSIVE
9:36:35AM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM GOING ON.
9:36:37AM OF COURSE, THE POSTER CHILD IS THE PIPES PROGRAM, BUT FAR
9:36:40AM MORE TO IT THAN THAT.
9:36:42AM SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
9:36:44AM AGENCIES, PARKS AND RECREATION.
9:36:47AM THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, STORMWATER, AND, AGAIN -- I
9:36:52AM MEAN, YOU SEE THE BIGGEST ITEMS ON THERE, WATER AND
9:36:55AM WASTEWATER ASSOCIATED WITH THE PIPES PROGRAM.
9:36:58AM GETTING INTO A FEW MORE DETAILS ON THESE PROJECTS, I'LL
9:37:05AM HIGHLIGHT THE MAJOR PROJECTS.
9:37:06AM THIS IS NOT LIMITED TO JUST THE PROJECTS, AND THEN WE'LL GET
9:37:09AM INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL FOR THE DIFFERING COUNCIL
9:37:13AM DISTRICTS.
9:37:13AM YOU SEE IT HERE.
9:37:14AM WATER TREATMENT PLANT IMPROVEMENTS, WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS,
9:37:20AM WASTEWATER COLLECTION, PUMPING STATION, AGAIN, ALL PART OF
9:37:23AM THAT PIPES PROGRAM.
9:37:24AM WE'VE HAD TWO DEBT ISSUANCES.

9:37:27AM YOU'LL HEAR ME TALK ABOUT A THIRD POTENTIAL DEBT ISSUANCE
9:37:30AM NEXT YEAR, AND IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN NEXT YEAR, IT WILL
9:37:33AM HAPPEN IN THE YEAR AFTER.
9:37:35AM WE'RE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB, AS YOU'VE HEARD US SAY, OF
9:37:39AM ACQUIRING THE FUNDING AND THEN SPENDING THE FUNDING.
9:37:42AM YOU HEARD THE MAYOR DISCUSS IT.
9:37:43AM SO THE GOOD NEWS IS, WE'RE BRINGING IN A LOT OF MONEY AND
9:37:46AM WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY FOR EXACTLY WHAT WE PLANNED.
9:37:49AM MOVING TO PARKS AND RECREATION, AT THE TOP OF THE LIST, THE
9:37:54AM EAST TAMPA RECREATIONAL COMPLEX.
9:37:56AM GANDY PARK SOUTH AND PALONIS PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
9:38:02AM SULFUR SPRINGS AREA IMPROVEMENTS.
9:38:03AM THE WAYNE PAPY ATHLETIC CENTER.
9:38:06AM NEW TAMPA SPORTS COMPLEX.
9:38:06AM WE HAVE THE VETERANS MEMORIAL AT JIM WALTER, EXCUSE ME, AND
9:38:10AM THE HYDE PARK.
9:38:11AM SO A LOT OF STUFF -- A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON IN THE PARKS
9:38:15AM AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IN THIS PLAN.
9:38:19AM SOLID WASTE AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, ONLY TWO
9:38:24AM BULLETS, BUT A GREAT DEAL OF FUNDING.
9:38:27AM I'LL GET INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THAT IN JUST A MOMENT
9:38:30AM AS WE DISCUSS SOME OF THE POTENTIAL DEBT ISSUANCES WE'RE
9:38:33AM LOOKING AT.
9:38:34AM HEADQUARTERS FLEET RELOCATION FROM THE SPRUCE AREA AND THE
9:38:39AM MCKAY BAY WASTE-TO-ENERGY FACILITY PROGRAM.

9:38:43AM MOBILITY, THE MULTIMODAL NETWORK THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE
9:38:48AM BUILD GRANT, THE WEST RIVER PROGRAM, THE ROME AVENUE
9:38:51AM PROGRAM, STORMWATER PROJECTS, STREET RESURFACING,
9:38:55AM SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FUNDING FOR MOBILITY.
9:38:58AM AND THE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DIVISION, THE PUBLIC SAFETY
9:39:02AM TRAINING FACILITY.
9:39:05AM AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S DECADES AND DECADES OLD, 49th LARGEST
9:39:10AM CITY IN THE U.S. WITH ONE OF, IF NOT THE BEST FIRE AND
9:39:15AM POLICE DEPARTMENTS, WE NEED TO IMPROVE THEIR TRAINING
9:39:17AM FACILITIES.
9:39:18AM ALONG WITH THAT, THE RELOCATION OF THE IMPOUND FACILITY FOR
9:39:21AM TPD AND FLEET MAINTENANCE DECENTRALIZATION.
9:39:25AM WE HAVE A CENTRALIZED FLEET PROGRAM NOW.
9:39:28AM WE THINK WE CAN GAIN A LOT OF EFFICIENCIES AND REDUCE A LOT
9:39:32AM OF MAINTENANCE TIMES BY DECENTRALIZING THAT, BY FOCUSING
9:39:37AM MORE ON THE PARTICULAR SERVICE BEING PROVIDED AT THE
9:39:41AM LOCATION AND REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT GETS FOR OUR
9:39:45AM ASSETS TO GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE REPAIRED.
9:39:49AM AND INTO THE DISTRICT MAPS, YOU'LL FIND THESE INTERACTIVE
9:39:57AM MAPS IN THE OPEN GOV PROGRAM ONLINE, AND THERE IS A LINK AT
9:40:01AM THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION.
9:40:03AM AND IN DISTRICT 4, YOU'LL SEE -- YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS IN
9:40:08AM EACH DISTRICT, COUNCIL, COMPREHENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR
9:40:10AM TAMPA'S NEIGHBORHOODS.
9:40:11AM THAT IS QUITE SIMPLY THE WATER, WASTEWATER, MOBILITY, AND

9:40:17AM STORMWATER DEPARTMENTS WORKING TOGETHER THROUGHOUT THE
9:40:20AM NEIGHBORHOOD TO ALMOST A STRIKE FORCE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS,
9:40:25AM TO GET INTO AN AREA FROM THE BOTTOM UP, TRY TO MITIGATE ANY
9:40:30AM INCONVENIENCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OCCURRING WITH ALL OF THIS
9:40:34AM ACTIVITY.
9:40:34AM IN THE PAST, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, WE HAVEN'T BEEN QUITE AS
9:40:37AM WELL COORDINATED.
9:40:39AM SO THE DEPARTMENT WOULD COME IN, TEAR SOMETHING UP, FIX IT
9:40:42AM AND LO AND BEHOLD, MAYBE NOT TOO LONG AFTER, ANOTHER
9:40:45AM DEPARTMENT WOULD COME IN AND TEAR UP THE EXACT SPOT.
9:40:48AM WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT SMARTER ABOUT IT, AND I THINK YOU'VE
9:40:52AM HEARD VERY POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT THIS TEMPLATE.
9:40:54AM I KNOW OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE.
9:40:56AM SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICTS.
9:40:58AM EXTENSIVE STORMWATER AND STREET FLOODING WORK.
9:41:03AM AGAIN, THE BUILD GRANT AND WEST RIVER WALK AND PARKS
9:41:07AM IMPROVEMENTS.
9:41:09AM AGAIN, THESE ARE NOT THE ONLY PROJECTS.
9:41:11AM THESE ARE SIMPLY THE HIGHLIGHTS.
9:41:12AM MOVING ON TO DISTRICT 5, AT THE TOP OF THE LIST AGAIN, THE
9:41:18AM EAST TAMPA RECREATIONAL COMPLEX.
9:41:20AM AGAIN, THAT COMPREHENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM.
9:41:24AM AGAIN, THE BUILD GRANT AND THE WEST RIVERWALK PROGRAM.
9:41:28AM PUBLIC SAFETY.
9:41:30AM THE HANNA AVENUE GOVERNMENT CENTER.

9:41:32AM WE CONTINUE WITH THAT AND AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THE
9:41:36AM SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA IMPROVEMENTS.
9:41:38AM IN DISTRICT 6, AGAIN, THE NEIGHBORHOOD INFRASTRUCTURE
9:41:44AM PROJECTS.
9:41:44AM AGAIN, THE BUILD GRANT AND THE WEST RIVERWALK AND ROME
9:41:48AM AVENUE PROJECTS.
9:41:49AM AND, OF COURSE, THE HOWARD AVENUE -- WELL, I CAN'T SEE --
9:41:54AM HOWARD AVENUE POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICES AND WAYNE C. PAPY
9:42:00AM IMPROVEMENTS.
9:42:00AM MOVING INTO DISTRICT 7, ONCE AGAIN, THE NEIGHBORHOOD
9:42:06AM INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, FIRE STATION NUMBER 24.
9:42:09AM THE FIRE STATION NUMBER 20 PARKING LOT AND THE NEW TAMPA
9:42:14AM AREA RENOVATIONS.
9:42:15AM I'D LIKE TO SEGUE A SHORT DISTANCE TO THE DEBT PROGRAM
9:42:24AM BECAUSE THIS IS THE MECHANISM THAT WE HAVE USED IN THE PAST,
9:42:28AM AND THIS IS THE MECHANISM, ONE OF THE PRIMARY MECHANISMS
9:42:31AM WE'LL CONTINUE TO USE IN THE FUTURE TO FUND MANY OF THESE
9:42:35AM PROJECTS.
9:42:36AM YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.
9:42:46AM YOU SAW THIS IN THE MAYOR'S PRESENTATION, BUT RIGHTLY SO, I
9:42:49AM THINK IT'S WORTH REITERATING.
9:42:51AM WE DON'T JUST PUT THIS UP HERE TO BRAG ON WHAT WE ARE DOING,
9:42:55AM BUT IT IS BRAGGABLE.
9:42:56AM WE SHOW THIS BECAUSE IT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH WHAT THOSE
9:43:00AM BIG PROJECTS YOU JUST SAW ARE GOING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH.

9:43:05AM WE'RE DOING BIG, IMPORTANT PROJECTS, AND IT TAKES BIG MONEY.
9:43:09AM BUT WE ALSO SHOW THIS BECAUSE THE BETTER THE RATINGS ARE, AS
9:43:16AM YOU HEARD THE MAYOR SAID, THE MORE WE CAN SAVE THAT WE CAN
9:43:18AM ALLOCATE TO MORE PROJECTS.
9:43:20AM IT REALLY IS A VERY POSITIVE CIRCLE.
9:43:23AM THE BETTER WE CAN MAKE THESE, THE MORE MONEY WE SAVE, AND
9:43:26AM THE MORE PROJECTS THAT WE CAN DO.
9:43:28AM ALL OF THEM, AS I SAID BEFORE, ARE HIGH GRADE OR BETTER, AND
9:43:34AM YOU AND THE COMMUNITY SHOULD EXPECT NOTHING LESS.
9:43:37AM AT THE TOP, YOU SEE THE RATING CALLED THE ISSUER CREDIT
9:43:41AM RATING.
9:43:42AM THE CLOSEST METAPHOR FOR THAT IS PROBABLY YOUR PERSONAL FICO
9:43:47AM SCORE.
9:43:47AM THAT'S HOW WELL THE CITY OF TAMPA IS DOING AND WE'RE DOING
9:43:50AM VERY WELL.
9:43:51AM ON THE FAR RIGHT, YOU SEE STANDARD & POOR'S, TRIPLE A,
9:43:57AM HIGHEST RATING YOU CAN GET.
9:43:58AM MOODY'S AND FITCH HAVE GIVEN US THE SECOND HIGHEST RATING.
9:44:03AM THAT IS A VERY, VERY GOOD FICO SCORE.
9:44:07AM AS I SAID BEFORE, IT CONTINUES TO BE WORTH REMINDING
9:44:12AM EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS A VERY GOOD GAUGE ALSO OF OUR
9:44:16AM FINANCIAL STABILITY.
9:44:18AM IT'S FREQUENTLY REVIEWED AND SCRUTINIZED BY THE CREDIT
9:44:21AM RATING AGENCIES.
9:44:23AM MOODY'S, FITCH, STANDARD & POOR'S.

9:44:26AM THEY COME IN WITH A FINE-TOOTH COMB, AND THEY GO THROUGH
9:44:30AM REAMS OF DOCUMENTS AND THEY TALK TO, WELL, JUST ABOUT
9:44:34AM EVERYBODY IN THE REVENUE AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND MANY OF
9:44:37AM THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
9:44:39AM AND WHAT DO THEY FIND WITH THIS FINE-TOOTH COMB?
9:44:46AM THEY FIND CONTINUING IMPROVEMENT IN FINANCIAL STABILITY.
9:44:49AM SO MUCH SO THAT YOU SEE ON SCREEN THERE 14 CREDIT RATING
9:44:51AM UPGRADES SINCE 2011.
9:44:52AM I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T JUST SET IT AND
9:44:57AM FORGET IT.
9:44:58AM THEY COME BACK.
9:44:59AM WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO JUSTIFY THESE RATINGS AND PROVE THAT
9:45:04AM WE DESERVE THEM, AND WE DO.
9:45:06AM I'LL END THIS SLIDE BY THANKING COUNCIL.
9:45:09AM I WOULDN'T SAY IT IF IT WASN'T TRUE.
9:45:13AM WE HAVE TAKEN SOME VERY BIG, BOLD STEPS FROM BOTH A CAPITAL
9:45:16AM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND A DEBT PROGRAM PERSPECTIVE, AND I
9:45:20AM THINK IT'S PAYING OFF.
9:45:21AM IT'S PAYING OFF REAL LIFE EVERY DAY FOR EVERYONE IN THE
9:45:24AM CITY, NOT JUST RESIDENTS.
9:45:25AM SO THANK YOU.
9:45:27AM I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A PICTURE OF OUR CURRENT OUTSTANDING
9:45:32AM DEBT SERVICE.
9:45:33AM 35 YEARS OUT TO 2057, AGAIN, VERY WELL PLANNED.
9:45:38AM WE HAVE SOME EXPERTS IN HOUSE AND WE HIRE SOME EXPERTS

9:45:41AM OUTSIDE TO MAKE SURE THIS IS A VERY WELL-RUN AND STABLE
9:45:45AM PLAN.
9:45:45AM THE GREEN LINE SHOWS THE OUTSTANDING DEBT FOR THE WATER AND
9:45:49AM WASTEWATER DEPARTMENTS.
9:45:50AM YOU'LL SEE THAT LABELED AS "ENTERPRISE."
9:45:53AM RIGHT NOW, THOSE ARE THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE DEBT
9:45:56AM WITH.
9:45:57AM THE BLUE LINE SHOWS THE DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH GOVERNMENTAL.
9:45:59AM THAT WILL BE OUR COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAXES, OUR CIT, WHICH
9:46:04AM I'LL SPEAK TO IN JUST A MOMENT.
9:46:06AM STORMWATER, THE FLORIDA AQUARIUM, OUR CONVENTION CENTER,
9:46:09AM MOBILITY AND FACILITIES IMPROVEMENTS.
9:46:12AM THAT DEBT LINE, THAT BLUE DEBT LINE WILL BE ADJUSTED FOR THE
9:46:18AM ANTICIPATED DEBT ISSUANCE THAT WILL INCLUDE THE EAST TAMPA
9:46:21AM RECREATION CENTER.
9:46:22AM I'LL GET INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL IN JUST A MOMENT ON THAT.
9:46:26AM BUT THIS IS A VERY GOOD DEBT PROFILE.
9:46:29AM YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY IT BEFORE.
9:46:32AM NICE, SMOOTH, DECREASING OVER TIME, INDICATING VERY CLEARLY
9:46:36AM THAT WE HAVE ADDITIONAL DEBT CAPACITY FOR ADDITIONAL
9:46:41AM PROJECTS FOR THINGS THAT MAY ARISE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE
9:46:43AM NOT SUCH A BIG PRIORITY NOW BUT WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE
9:46:47AM WILL BRING.
9:46:48AM SO THAT'S A VERY GOOD DEBT SLIDE.
9:46:50AM THIS IS OUR DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS EVERY YEAR.

9:46:57AM AGAIN, LAST DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT IN 2057, NICE, SMOOTH.
9:47:04AM WE DO THIS DELIBERATELY.
9:47:06AM THERE ARE NO SURPRISES FOR ANY SUBSEQUENT CITY COUNCILS FOR
9:47:09AM ANY SUBSEQUENT MAYORS.
9:47:11AM YOU SEE THAT GRADUAL DECREASE WITH PLENTY OF CAPACITY TO DO
9:47:15AM MORE AS THE NEEDS ARISE.
9:47:16AM SO YOU'VE LOOKED AT WHERE WE ARE NOW.
9:47:22AM I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT INTO WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR
9:47:26AM THE FUTURE AND THE FUTURE DEBT ISSUANCES.
9:47:29AM THIS IS THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT DEBT ISSUANCE I REFERENCED
9:47:35AM EARLIER.
9:47:35AM WE ANTICIPATE AT THIS TIME IT WILL BE ABOUT 90 TO 120
9:47:39AM MILLION DOLLARS.
9:47:39AM AND YOU SEE THE PROJECTS THAT WILL BE INCLUDED.
9:47:42AM EAST TAMPA RECREATIONAL COMPLEX, FIRE STATION NUMBER 24,
9:47:46AM PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING FACILITIES.
9:47:48AM I WON'T READ THE ENTIRE SLIDE, BUT WE'LL BE BRINGING THIS TO
9:47:52AM YOU IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE AND A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION.
9:47:58AM YOU'VE SEEN THESE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS BEFORE, AND
9:48:01AM WE'LL BRIEF YOU ON THEM BEFORE WE BRING THEM TO YOU.
9:48:04AM BUT WHAT YOU CAN ANTICIPATE IS A DOCUMENT THAT SAYS, WE'RE
9:48:08AM GOING TO EXPEDITE THESE PROJECTS.
9:48:10AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAIT FOR THE DEBT ISSUANCE.
9:48:13AM BUT WHEN WE START SPENDING MONEY FOR THE PROJECTS, WHEN WE
9:48:16AM GET THAT BOND, WHEN WE GET THAT COMMERCIAL PAPER, WHATEVER

9:48:19AM IT IS, WE'RE GOING TO PAY OURSELVES BACK.
9:48:21AM WE DO THIS SO WE CAN MOVE FASTER, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT
9:48:25AM FOR ALL OF THE LOGISTICS AND DETAIL ASSOCIATED WITH A MAJOR
9:48:30AM DEBT ISSUANCE.
9:48:31AM WE'LL EXPLAIN MORE, BUT YOU'VE SEEN IT BEFORE.
9:48:33AM AGAIN, THIS ALLOWS US TO GET OUT OF THE STARTING GATE MUCH
9:48:37AM FASTER.
9:48:37AM IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION YOU'LL HEAR IT AGAIN IN THIS
9:48:41AM PRESENTATION BECAUSE WE HAVE A FEW.
9:48:42AM MOVING ON TO THE PIPES PROGRAM.
9:48:47AM AGAIN, A VERY SIGNIFICANT DEBT ISSUANCE.
9:48:50AM THE THIRD ONE FOR THE PIPES PROGRAM.
9:48:53AM UPWARDS OF $300 MILLION.
9:48:56AM AGAIN, WE'RE MOVING VERY, VERY FAST, AND THAT'S GOOD, BUT WE
9:49:00AM DON'T WANT TO MOVE SO FAST THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE NECESSARY
9:49:04AM FUNDING IN PLACE, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO BRING IN A BUNCH
9:49:08AM OF FUNDING THAT WE CAN'T SPEND.
9:49:10AM WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IS HOLD ON TO A GREAT DEAL OF DEBT
9:49:14AM SERVICE WITH THOSE INTEREST CHARGES WHILE YOU'RE NOT GETTING
9:49:16AM THINGS DONE.
9:49:17AM WE'RE SPEEDY, BUT DEPENDING ON HOW FAST WE CONTINUE TO MOVE,
9:49:22AM IT WILL BE A NEXT YEAR OR FISCAL YEAR '24 DEBT ISSUANCE.
9:49:27AM BUT, AGAIN, ALL PLANNED, ALL PART OF THE OVERALL 20-YEAR,
9:49:32AM NEARLY $3 BILLION PROGRAM.
9:49:34AM AND THIS WILL BE A LITTLE OVER 300 MILLION.

9:49:37AM AGAIN, WE'LL TELEGRAPH THESE AND BRIEF YOU AHEAD OF TIME,
9:49:42AM BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT.
9:49:44AM AND THE SOLID WASTE DEBT ISSUANCE.
9:49:49AM WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL TO DO IN THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT,
9:49:52AM NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS RELOCATING THAT SECTION FROM
9:49:56AM SPRUCE STREET.
9:49:57AM WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
9:49:58AM IT'S GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE.
9:50:00AM YOU'VE GOT THE WASTE-TO-ENERGY PLANT IS GOING TO BE AN
9:50:04AM EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION.
9:50:06AM YOU SEE 200 -- EXCUSE ME, $220 MILLION.
9:50:11AM AGAIN, WE'LL TELEGRAPH IT.
9:50:13AM WE'LL BRIEF YOU.
9:50:15AM IT IS OUR INTENT, AGAIN, TO DO A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION SO
9:50:18AM WE CAN HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND GET THE BEGINNINGS OF
9:50:22AM THESE PROJECTS GOING.
9:50:24AM WE HAVE DISCUSSED A RATE STUDY ASSOCIATED WITH THE SOLID
9:50:28AM WASTE NEEDS.
9:50:29AM WE'LL DISCUSS THAT MORE IN THE FUTURE.
9:50:33AM THAT'S A HEFTY LIFT, BUT A NEEDED LIFT.
9:50:36AM AND THE STORMWATER DEBT ISSUANCE, A GREAT DEAL OF WORK
9:50:43AM NEEDED THERE ALSO.
9:50:44AM CONTINUING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT I
9:50:48AM DISCUSSED EARLIER, YOU ARE AWARE OF SOME OF THESE ALREADY.
9:50:52AM LAMB CANAL, GOLF VIEW ESTATES, FLOODING IN THE LOWER

9:50:56AM PENINSULA SOUTHEAST REGION.
9:50:58AM AGAIN, A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION WE'LL BRING TO YOU.
9:51:01AM WE'LL BRIEF YOU.
9:51:03AM BIG PROJECTS, BIG PLANS.
9:51:05AM IT'S GOING TO TAKE BIG MONEY.
9:51:07AM AND THE BUDGET CALENDAR.
9:51:13AM AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, WE'VE GOT A BUDGET WORKSHOP LATER ON
9:51:17AM THIS MONTH.
9:51:18AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
9:51:19AM PLEASE DON'T WAIT UNTIL THE BUDGET WORKSHOP TO ASK ANY
9:51:22AM QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
9:51:23AM HOPEFULLY IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
9:51:26AM MY TEAM IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
9:51:28AM PLEASE REACH OUT.
9:51:31AM IT IS A $1.9 BILLION BUDGET.
9:51:34AM IT IS BY NECESSITY COMPLEX AND EXPANSIVE.
9:51:39AM WE'RE HERE TO HELP GUIDE YOU THROUGH THAT, SO PLEASE REACH
9:51:42AM OUT.
9:51:43AM AND, OF COURSE, WE'LL BE THERE AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.
9:51:45AM YOU SEE THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE SCHEDULED.
9:51:49AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE ALSO.
9:51:51AM AND THERE IS THE LINK I REFERENCED EARLIER.
9:51:57AM WE CAN ALSO SEND IT TO YOU WHERE YOU HAVE THE BUDGET, YOU
9:52:00AM HAVE THOSE INTERACTIVE MAPS.
9:52:03AM YOU HAVE THE DETAIL.

9:52:04AM BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS, IF I MAY, AS WE'RE ALL
9:52:11AM AWARE, IT IS A VERY CHALLENGING ENVIRONMENT.
9:52:14AM WE'VE GOT GLOBAL CHALLENGES.
9:52:15AM WE'VE GOT NATIONAL CHALLENGES.
9:52:17AM WE'VE GOT LOCAL CHALLENGES.
9:52:18AM WE'RE EXPERIENCING THE HIGHEST INFLATION IN 40 YEARS.
9:52:22AM WE MAY BE IN A RECESSION AS WE SPEAK.
9:52:25AM I DON'T NEED TO BELABOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUES.
9:52:29AM AS WE'VE SAID BEFORE, THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX IS GOING
9:52:32AM AWAY.
9:52:33AM THE ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION TAX WE'LL SEE.
9:52:36AM WE'LL CROSS OUR FINGERS AND HOPE FOR THE BEST.
9:52:39AM BUT AS YOU HEARD THE MAYOR SAY, AS YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY
9:52:43AM BEFORE, AND I ANTICIPATE YOU'LL HEAR ME SAY AGAIN, DESPITE
9:52:47AM ALL OF THESE HEADWINDS, WE'VE GOT A VERY, VERY SOUND
9:52:50AM FINANCIAL PLAN.
9:52:51AM THE CITY IS IN GOOD SHAPE DUE IN PART TO THIS PLANNING ON
9:52:55AM DEBT SERVICE, DUE IN PART TO THE RATING AGENCIES, DUE IN
9:52:58AM PART TO THE STRONG GENERAL FUND BALANCE, TO THE MANAGEMENT
9:53:01AM OF THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND PROGRAMS BY LEADERSHIP AND
9:53:04AM THEIR TEAM, BY CITY COUNCIL, BY THE MAYOR.
9:53:08AM SO WE'VE GOT A CAREFULLY CRAFTED AND FINELY BALANCED BUDGET
9:53:14AM WE'RE SUBMITTING TO YOU.
9:53:15AM I DON'T JUST MEAN BALANCED IN REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES,
9:53:18AM BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THAT BY LAW.

9:53:20AM IF WE DON'T DO THAT, SOMEONE ELSE WILL BE PRESENTING THE
9:53:23AM BUDGET TO YOU OTHER THAN DENNIS.
9:53:25AM BUT WE'VE GOT IT BALANCED HERE.
9:53:27AM WE'VE GOT IT BALANCED HERE.
9:53:28AM WE'VE GOT IT BALANCED HERE.
9:53:30AM IT'S FINELY TUNED.
9:53:31AM THE TOLERANCES ARE TIGHT.
9:53:33AM SO CHANGES IN ONE AREA, I'LL TELL YOU AHEAD OF TIME, ARE
9:53:36AM PROBABLY GOING TO NECESSITATE CHANGES IN ANOTHER AREA.
9:53:40AM WE THINK WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THE PRIORITIES YOU'VE GIVEN US,
9:53:42AM THAT THE MAYOR HAS GIVEN US, THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM IN THE
9:53:46AM COMMUNITY.
9:53:46AM AS YOU HEARD THE CHIEF OF STAFF SAY BEFORE, FOUR Ps.
9:53:49AM FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE PUBLIC.
9:53:52AM OUR VALUED PERSONNEL.
9:53:53AM OUR PARTNERS, INTERNAL PARTNERS, EXTERNAL PARTNERS.
9:53:59AM AND, OF COURSE, OUR POLICY MAKERS.
9:54:00AM WE THINK WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR ALL OF THAT.
9:54:04AM WE ARE A MAJOR AMERICAN CITY.
9:54:06AM THERE IS A LOT GOING ON.
9:54:07AM AND WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS.
9:54:08AM AS YOU KNOW, WE DEVELOPED AN OPEN GOV TRAINING CLASS.
9:54:14AM THANK YOU TO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE ATTENDED.
9:54:18AM I HOPE YOU FOUND IT USEFUL.
9:54:20AM AGAIN, THERE IS A LOT GOING ON.

9:54:21AM WE ARE STILL HERE TO GUIDE YOU THROUGH.
9:54:23AM IF AFTER TAKING THAT CLASS, OR EVEN IF YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN THE
9:54:26AM CLASS, JUMP IN, LOOK AROUND, AND WE CAN ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC
9:54:29AM QUESTIONS.
9:54:30AM I'VE SAID THIS ALREADY.
9:54:31AM CONTACT ME ANYTIME.
9:54:33AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AGAIN.
9:54:35AM I WOULDN'T SAY IT IF IT WASN'T TRUE.
9:54:38AM I GENUINELY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.
9:54:41AM MY TEAM, THE DEPARTMENTS, THE MAYOR, THE CHIEF OF STAFF,
9:54:44AM IT'S BEEN A GREAT BUDGET YEAR SO FAR WITH A LOT OF NEEDS, A
9:54:46AM LOT OF CHALLENGES.
9:54:47AM BUT I THINK WE'RE IN A VERY GOOD SPOT.
9:54:49AM FROM HERE ON OUT, IT'S PRIORITIZATION, DISCUSSION, AND
9:54:53AM WORKSHOPS.
9:54:54AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:54:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. ROGERO.
9:54:57AM FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION, COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL BE HERE.
9:55:01AM HE WILL BE REMOTELY IN HIS OFFICE.
9:55:04AM HE IS STILL COUGHING A LITTLE BIT.
9:55:06AM HE FELT IT WOULD BE BETTER IF HE STAYED IN HIS OFFICE.
9:55:09AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, HOW ARE YOU DOING?
9:55:12AM LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS JOINED US.
9:55:15AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON WILL NOT BE HERE TODAY AS HE IS TAKING
9:55:19AM TIME OFF.

9:55:20AM AGAIN, LET'S REMEMBER THAT WE'RE HAVING A WORKSHOP ON THE
9:55:24AM 16th TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET.
9:55:26AM AND MR. ROGERO HAS SAID HIS OFFICE IS OPEN TO ANY TYPE OF
9:55:32AM CONVERSATION ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.
9:55:34AM WITH THAT, I WILL GO TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:55:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND
9:55:41AM THANK YOU, MR. ROGERO, YOUR TEAM, THE GREAT MIKE PERRY,
9:55:47AM EVERYBODY THAT TOOK PART IN PUTTING THIS VERY ROBUST BUDGET
9:55:51AM TOGETHER.
9:55:52AM MAYOR CASTOR, CHIEF BENNETT, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.
9:55:56AM I SEE THAT -- I THINK ALL MY REQUESTS WERE INCLUDED IN THE
9:56:00AM BUDGET.
9:56:00AM I KNOW THAT WAS NOT TIME WASTED.
9:56:03AM WE SAT DOWN.
9:56:04AM WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
9:56:05AM YOU RESPONDED.
9:56:06AM I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
9:56:07AM YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS GROWING.
9:56:09AM WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF.
9:56:14AM IT'S VERY COMPLICATED.
9:56:15AM BUT THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE THAT WE'RE FACING RIGHT NOW IS THE
9:56:19AM HOUSING SITUATION, AND PEOPLE THAT ARE CONCERNED WHERE THEY
9:56:23AM ARE GOING TO LIVE, IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE ON THE STREETS,
9:56:25AM WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
9:56:26AM I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR HAS COMMITTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN

9:56:30AM THIS FORTHCOMING BUDGET ON TOP OF TENANT ADVOCACY,
9:56:34AM EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WAS MENTIONED.
9:56:36AM WE WANT TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE, DO IT THE RIGHT
9:56:40AM WAY SO THAT WE DON'T OFFER FALSE HOPE; WE OFFER GENUINE
9:56:45AM HOPE, AND WE HELP PEOPLE WITH THE CRISIS WE'RE FACING.
9:56:48AM I'LL STOP THERE BUT I WANTED TO THANK YOU AND EVERYONE
9:56:50AM PUBLICLY FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK IN THIS.
9:56:53AM THANK YOU.
9:56:53AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:56:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:56:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:56:56AM DENNIS, GREAT PRESENTATION AS USUAL.
9:56:58AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
9:56:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BEFORE THE WORKSHOP, I HAVE ABOUT THREE
9:57:02AM QUESTIONS I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT.
9:57:04AM ONE WILL BE JUNETEENTH.
9:57:05AM THE OTHER ONE WILL BE CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE EMPLOYEES'
9:57:09AM SALARIES.
9:57:10AM I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE ATUs, THE POLICE AND FIRE, BUT I
9:57:13AM HAVE A TON OF LETTERS FROM OTHER EMPLOYEES THAT ARE SAYING
9:57:16AM THAT THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED OR THEIR NUMBERS ARE NOT WHERE
9:57:20AM THE OTHER UNIONIZED PEOPLE ARE.
9:57:22AM SO WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT CONCERNS
9:57:25AM ME, MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PAGE ON THAT.
9:57:29AM I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT ON THE LAST ONE.

9:57:36AM IT WILL COME BACK.
9:57:37AM PLEASE, YOUR OFFICE WILL SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT.
9:57:40AM THREE ISSUES I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
9:57:41AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WILL DO.
9:57:43AM YES, SIR.
9:57:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:57:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M GOING TO ECHO EVERYONE'S THANKS.
9:57:47AM THIS IS MY FIRST BUDGET, SO GETTING THE FIRST OVERVIEW IS
9:57:51AM GREAT.
9:57:51AM BUT I'M GOING TO ECHO THE INTEREST IN SALARIES FOR THOSE NOT
9:57:58AM COVERED BY THE UNIONS.
9:57:59AM AND I ALSO ECHO THE INTEREST IN HOUSING.
9:58:04AM 5.5 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
9:58:06AM THERE'S 20 MILLION FROM ELSEWHERE, BUT I REALLY -- I WANTED
9:58:10AM MORE MONEY.
9:58:11AM AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO GET WITH YOU SO YOU CAN EXPLAIN WHERE
9:58:15AM THAT MONEY IS GOING.
9:58:17AM I EXPECT TO TALK ABOUT THAT QUITE A BIT IN THE WORKSHOP.
9:58:19AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
9:58:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:58:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:58:25AM I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S COMMENTS, ESPECIALLY YOURS, DENNIS.
9:58:28AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:58:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE AN OUTSTANDING INDIVIDUAL.
9:58:32AM YOU ALWAYS DO A GREAT PRESENTATION AND FACTUALLY YOU'RE 100%

9:58:36AM CORRECT.
9:58:36AM SOMETIMES YOU MAKE A MISTAKE, BUT I DON'T CATCH IT.
9:58:39AM HOWEVER, IN REVIEWING ALL THESE THINGS, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
9:58:44AM HOUSING AND SO FORTH AND SO ON THERE'S ANOTHER FACTOR OF
9:58:47AM HOUSING THAT COMES WITH RESPONSIBILITY NO ONE HAS ADDRESSED.
9:58:51AM JUST BECAUSE WE BUILT A HOUSE AND JUST BECAUSE WE CALL IT
9:58:55AM AFFORDABLE, HOW REALLY AFFORDABLE IS IT?
9:58:57AM NUMBER TWO, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE IT MUCH MORE ACCEPTABLE
9:59:03AM TO THOSE THAT ARE APPLYING TO BUY AND LIVE IN THOSE HOUSES?
9:59:07AM LIKE, A, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE, THERE ARE TWO
9:59:12AM THINGS THAT COME WITH IT: PAYMENT AND MORE PAYMENT.
9:59:16AM MEANING, YOU GOT TO UPKEEP THE HOUSE.
9:59:19AM YOU GOT TO PAY THE ELECTRICITY.
9:59:21AM YOU GOT TO PAY YOUR INSURANCE.
9:59:23AM AND CLOSE TO WATER, YOU HAVE TO PAY FLOOD INSURANCE.
9:59:27AM SO ONE THING IS BUYING A HOUSE AT A CERTAIN PRICE.
9:59:30AM THE NEXT THING IS MAINTAINING THE HOUSE TO LIVE IN IT FOR
9:59:33AM YOUR 30 OR 40 YEARS.
9:59:35AM AND WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS WHY IS IT THAT WE DON'T THINK OUT
9:59:41AM OF THE BOX, AND I'M SURE YOU MIGHT ALREADY THOUGHT OF THIS,
9:59:44AM ABOUT HAVING SOME TYPE OF A SYSTEM WITHIN THE CITY OF
9:59:50AM TAMPA'S PURVIEW OF SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO FORCE YOU TO DO
9:59:54AM THESE THINGS, BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT MAY BE
9:59:55AM ACCEPTABLE IF YOU WANT TO DO IT.

09:59:56AM WHY WE DON'T SEE OUT OF THE BOX, AND I AM SURE YOU ALREADY
09:59:57AM THOUGHT OF THIS OF HAVING SOME TYPE OF A SYSTEM WITHIN THE
09:59:58AM CITY OF TAMPA'S PURVIEW OF SAYING WE ARE NOT GOING TO FORCE
09:59:59AM YOU TO DO THESE THINGS BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT MAY BE
10:00:00AM ACCEPTABLE IF YOU WANT TO DO IT.
10:00:02AM ELECTRICITY USUALLY RUNS IN A HOUSE BETWEEN $100 TODAY 200 A
10:00:07AM MONTH.
10:00:07AM HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE SOLAR, IT RUNS YOU ABOUT $25 TO $35 A
10:00:16AM MONTH.
10:00:16AM IF YOU INSTALL IT WHEN YOU ARE BUILDING, I IMAGINE YOU WILL
10:00:19AM GET A BETTER PRICE WHEN YOU ARE NOT BUILDING IF YOU HAVE
10:00:25AM FIVE OR SIX YOU MIGHT HAVE A DISCOUNT.
10:00:27AM I AM THROWING THESE THINGS OUT.
10:00:29AM NUMBER ONE.
10:00:30AM NUMBER TWO, WHY IS IT THAT ALL HOUSES THAT WE BUILT
10:00:36AM HAVE EAVES.
10:00:37AM I ASK MY QUESTION TO MYSELF.
10:00:39AM AND THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION I GIVE MYSELF IS AN EAVE IS
10:00:44AM AN OVERHANG INTO THE HOUSE ABOUT 18 TO 24 INCHES LONG.
10:00:47AM WHAT LEAVES THE HOUSE FIRST WHEN YOU HAVE HIGH WINDS OR
10:00:53AM COMPOUNDING HURRICANE THAT YOU HOPE YOU NEVER HAVE IN THIS
10:00:55AM AREA BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT 150, 125-MILE-PER-HOUR WINDS.
10:01:02AM WHAT LEAVES FIRST, THE ROOF, THE WINDOWS OR THE WALLS?
10:01:07AM WELL, IT HAS GOT TO BE THE ROOF.
10:01:09AM WHEN THE ROOF LEAVES, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE WINDOWS?
10:01:14AM THE VACUUM TAKES THEM DOWN.
10:01:16AM WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY ARE GONE, THE SIDEWALK COLLAPSES.
10:01:20AM WHY DON'T WE START SOME TYPE OF A PROGRAM WHERE WE HAVE
10:01:24AM ARCHITECTS DRAW SOMETHING TO SEE WHO HAS THE BEST HOUSES
10:01:27AM WITHOUT EAVES.
10:01:31AM THAT WAY WHOEVER IS BUYING THOSE HOUSES CAN GET, A, A LOWER
10:01:35AM RATE ON THE INSURANCE, I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD HAVE, AND IF
10:01:39AM YOU HAVE SOLAR, YOU GOT A BENEFIT OF SAVING YOURSELF LIKE
10:01:43AM $100 A MONTH WHICH WILL GO TOWARD A PAYMENT.
10:01:46AM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS A PROGRAM IF YOU SIGN UP FOR
10:01:49AM SOLAR THEY GIVE YOU A 27% TO 28% REDUCTION ON YOUR FEDERAL
10:01:55AM TAXES WHEN YOU GO PAY.
10:01:56AM THAT IS NUMBER ONE.
10:01:58AM NUMBER TWO -- HOWEVER NUMBER TWO MAY NOT BE TOO FRIENDLY TO
10:02:04AM THE CITY.
10:02:04AM BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN YOU TO THAT, THOSE TAXES THAT YOU ARE
10:02:09AM COLLECTING AND SO FORTH AND SO ON THAT ARE ADDED TO THE
10:02:13AM ELECTRIC BILL, GAS OR WHATEVER YOU USE, THAT ALSO GOES DOWN.
10:02:19AM I WAS PAYING ABOUT $20 A MONTH.
10:02:22AM NOW IT IS $5 A MONTH.
10:02:23AM THE CITY HAS A CALCULATE THAT GOING FORWARD WHAT WILL HAPPEN
10:02:27AM TO YOUR REVENUES.
10:02:29AM AND IT'S -- IT IS AN IMPACT ON SOLAR.
10:02:34AM I AM SURE I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE, BUT WE HAVE TO DO
10:02:37AM SOMETHING IN THE CANALS TO PUT SOLAR PANELS TO REFUSE THE --
10:02:43AM ESPECIALLY CLOSE TO THE WATER PLANT, TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF
10:02:46AM EVAPORATION YOU HAVE ON WATER.
10:02:48AM AN OPEN BODY OF WATER, LIKE A RESERVOIR.
10:02:52AM WE USUALLY USE 10% TO 50% EVERY SINGLE DAY ON EVAPORATION.
10:02:58AM [BELL RINGING]
10:03:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES THAT MEAN I AM OUT?
10:03:04AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WASN'T ME.
10:03:05AM [LAUGHTER]
10:03:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS LET'S START
10:03:12AM SOMETHING LIKE OF THAT ON CANALS AND RESERVOIRS SO THAT, A,
10:03:18AM THE EVAPORATION IS LESS THAN 5, 10%.
10:03:22AM AND GALLONS TO REUSE AGAIN TO THE PUBLIC.
10:03:26AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY WATER.
10:03:28AM [BEEPING]
10:03:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ARE YOU PUSHING THAT BUTTON, COUNCILMAN
10:03:36AM CITRO?
10:03:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS OR SO.
10:03:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING DONE THAT
10:03:43AM EVERYBODY CAN USE.
10:03:43AM NOT ONLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:03:45AM A HOUSE BUILT FOR 20 YEARS AND A CAPABLE ROOF.
10:03:49AM EVERYBODY WILL MAKE SOMETHING AND BUY SOMETHING OR EVEN A
10:03:53AM LANDLORD WILL DO SOMETHING TO -- SO THE TENANTS THAT HE HAS
10:03:57AM CAN DO THAT.
10:03:58AM THESE ARE THE THINGS I ALWAYS LOOK AT.
10:04:00AM THAT IS THE WAY I THINK.
10:04:04AM AND I WOULD JUST A LIKE TO SEE IF IT IS POSSIBLE.
10:04:07AM I AM NOT SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO IT.
10:04:09AM IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF A PROGRAM TO
10:04:13AM HELP THE PEOPLE HELP THEMSELVES.
10:04:16AM NOT BELIEVE IN EVERYTHING WE ARE GOING TO DO.
10:04:18AM SO IF THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY CHOOSE OR NOT CHOOSE.
10:04:21AM WE ARE NOT SAYING YOU HAVE GOT TO DO IT, BUT IF YOU DON'T DO
10:04:25AM IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG YOU WILL BE IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE
10:04:30AM THE WAGES DON'T KEEP UP WITH PRICES OF EVERYTHING.
10:04:32AM YOU LOOK AT ELECTRIC CARS AND START BUYING THEM, YOU PAY A
10:04:37AM LOT MORE FOR THEM THAN SOMETHING THAT IS COMBUSTIBLE;
10:04:40AM HOWEVER, YOU GET A MUCH LONGER USE OF THE CAR AND CERTAINLY
10:04:44AM YOUR EXPENSES ON FUEL AND OIL CHANGES AND REPLACEMENT OF THE
10:04:47AM RADIATOR YOU ARE GOING TO SAVE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY.
10:04:51AM THESE ARE THE THINGS I TRY TO EXTENDS MYSELF TO PERSONALLY
10:04:54AM AND I TRY TO THEIR IT WITH OTHERS TO HELP YOURSELF.
10:04:57AM DON'T ASK THE GOVERNMENT TO DO EVERYTHING.
10:05:00AM ASK YOURSELF WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO MAKE IT
10:05:03AM BETTER.
10:05:03AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:05:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:05:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:05:09AM AND MR. ROGERO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
10:05:11AM LIKE OTHERS HAVE SAID, YOU ARE ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO WORK
10:05:14AM WITH.
10:05:15AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
10:05:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: I REMEMBER WORKING WITH YOU IN THE FISCAL '18
10:05:20AM BUDGET IN 2017, AND YOU ARE ALWAYS DILIGENT AND A
10:05:23AM PROFESSIONAL AND I APPRECIATE YOU AND I APPRECIATE ALL
10:05:25AM THE PEOPLE SITTING BEHIND YOU AS WELL WHO HELP TOP MAKE OUR
10:05:31AM CITY RUN, DEPARTMENT HEADS AND OTHERS.
10:05:33AM JUST KNOW THAT YOU ARE APPRECIATED AND I APPRECIATE YOU.
10:05:36AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
10:05:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SEE HERE IS
10:05:40AM WE ARE ADDRESSING AN ONGOING STORM AND THEN A FUTURE STORM
10:05:44AM IN THIS BUDGET.
10:05:45AM THE FUTURE POTENTIAL STORM, OF COURSE, OF FISCAL HAVOC.
10:05:49AM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE ECONOMY.
10:05:52AM PEOPLE MENTION THE R WORD A LOT, RECESSION.
10:05:59AM IT IS GOOD TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH REFUNDS AND ETC.,
10:06:05AM ETC.
10:06:05AM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE WILL HOLD BUT WE KNOW
10:06:07AM NECESSITIES IN THE FUTURE THAT HAVE TO BE FUNDED REGARDLESS
10:06:11AM OF WHAT HAPPENED.
10:06:12AM WITH THE PRESENT STORM WHAT OTHERS ARE MENTION WITH
10:06:16AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:06:18AM GOOD TO SEE FUNDS ON THAT.
10:06:19AM IF WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT, ETC.
10:06:22AM A LARGE OVERVIEW OF THE BUDGET AND WE WILL GET A LITTLE BIT
10:06:25AM MORE INTO THE WEEDS.
10:06:25AM I AM GLAD TO SEE ALSO THE FIRE STATION 24, SOMETHING THAT IS
10:06:31AM VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
10:06:31AM THIS COUNCIL AND THIS CITY HAS GOTTEN BEHIND THE IDEA OF A
10:06:35AM PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN WHERE WE TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF OUR
10:06:38AM CITY.
10:06:38AM SEE WHERE OUR PRESENT DEFICITS ARE, SEE WHERE OUR FUTURE
10:06:42AM DEFICITS ARE AND HAVING THAT LONG-TERM VISION WITH BOTH
10:06:47AM POLICE AND FIRE.
10:06:47AM I THINK THE BIGGEST CRITICAL DEFICIT THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR
10:06:51AM CITY IS OBVIOUSLY WITH FIRE STATIONS.
10:06:53AM I KNOW WE WILL HAVE A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION ON THAT.
10:06:56AM BUT, AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO.THANK EVERYBODY BEHIND YOU AND
10:07:00AM YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM AND ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
10:07:03AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:07:04AM THANK YOU.
10:07:05AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:07:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. ROGERO, YOU HEARD NOTHING BUT GREAT
10:07:11AM THINGS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS AND I, TOO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
10:07:15AM WORK ON THIS BUDGET PRESENTATION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
10:07:17AM WORKING WITH YOU.
10:07:18AM YOU AND I HAVE MANY CONVERSATIONS OF WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR
10:07:21AM OUT OF THIS BUDGET.
10:07:22AM HOUSING.
10:07:23AM NOT LONG-TERM BUT WHAT WE CAN DO AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
10:07:26AM NUMBER TWO, OUR WORKFORCE.
10:07:28AM YOU HEARD ME MANY, MANY TIMES SAYING WE NEED MORE -- MORE
10:07:32AM PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THE CITY, WE NEED MORE WORKFORCE.
10:07:35AM PERMITTING, INSPECTIONS, FIRE AND POLICE.
10:07:40AM THROUGH ATTRITION, EXCUSE ME, WE ARE HAVING PEOPLE LEAVING,
10:07:45AM RETIRING AND WHATNOT.
10:07:47AM AND IT SEEMS TO ME IT STARTS TO BE MIDDLE MANAGEMENT AND
10:07:53AM EVERYTHING AND WE NEED TO KEEP THOSE POSITIONS FILLED.
10:07:55AM RESILIENCY.
10:07:59AM AS COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA MENTIONED NOT ONLY FOR THE CITIZENS
10:08:07AM BUT FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:08:08AM LET'S SHOW THE WORLD WHAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS SAVING OUR
10:08:11AM ENERGY, CLEAN ENERGY.
10:08:12AM I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU, YOUR STAFF IN THE FUTURE
10:08:17AM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A ROBUST CONVERSATION ON THE 16th.
10:08:21AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR, AS DO WE.
10:08:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF, YOU WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF A --
10:08:36AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:08:38AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:08:40AM FOR SITTING IN AND OF COURSE THE ADMINISTRATION AND OTHER
10:08:43AM LEADERS SITTING THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT, WE FELT IT WAS
10:08:46AM RESPONSIBLE IN WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY
10:08:49AM ENGAGEMENT TO HAVE MUCH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM JANELLE'S
10:08:56AM OFFICE FOR EVERY MEETING SO THEY CAN BE TRIAGED AND
10:09:02AM WORKED WITH IMMEDIATELY.
10:09:04AM JANELLE WILL HAVE -- PARTICULARLY TODAY MR. FRANK CRUM
10:09:10AM AVAILABLE IF ANYTHING SURFACES FROM PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE
10:09:14AM COUNCIL IS LIMITED TO THE ENGAGEMENT OF PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN
10:09:17AM THERE MAY BE SO MANY OF THEM WITH SO MANY CRITICAL THINGS.
10:09:20AM IN THE HALLWAY, TAKE THAT INFORMATION, TRIAGE IT.
10:09:25AM FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO AND DEFER OR HANDLE THOSE THINGS
10:09:28AM IMMEDIATELY ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL AND THE CITY AND HOPEFULLY
10:09:31AM THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE WILL CONTINUE.
10:09:33AM AND I WANT TO THANK JANELLE'S OFFICE AND OCEA'S OFFICE FOR
10:09:40AM BRING THAT FORWARD.
10:09:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
10:09:44AM AND THANK YOU, MR. CRUM.
10:09:46AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:09:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:09:49AM I LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING SOMEONE HERE TO TAKE THAT
10:09:53AM INFORMATION.
10:09:53AM AND I KNOW ALSO THEY HAVE THESE FOR FOLKS TO PICK UP.
10:09:58AM THE HOUSING HOTLINE NUMBER AND SOME FLYERS TO MAKE SURE THAT
10:10:01AM YOU SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
10:10:02AM SO IF YOU TONIGHT HAVE TIME TO STOP AND GIVE YOUR
10:10:05AM INFORMATION TODAY, THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE.
10:10:07AM THANK YOU.
10:10:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AT THIS TIME, WE WILL BE TAKING PUBLIC
10:10:11AM COMMENT.
10:10:11AM ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING.
10:10:15AM IF YOU COULD PLEASE FORM A LINE ON MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT.
10:10:22AM AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BEFORE WE START, THERE ARE ALSO
10:11:04AM PEOPLE WAITING DOWNSTAIRS TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:11:08AM AFTER YOU GIVE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, WILL YOU PLEASE EXIT OUT
10:11:12AM THROUGH THESE DOORS SO WE MAY ALLOW OTHER PEOPLE TO COME IN
10:11:15AM AND GIVE THEIR COMMENT.
10:11:16AM I AM GOING TO ASK THAT WHEN YOU SPEAK, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME
10:11:22AM AND IF YOU ARE A CITIZEN OR RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:11:26AM MISS BURTON.
10:11:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
10:11:31AM THIS IS MY GREAT GRANDDAUGHTER, LAMARIA CALLOWAY.
10:11:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ARE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA?
10:11:42AM >> I MOST CERTAINLY AM.
10:11:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS BURTON.
10:11:47AM >> THE REASON I WANT HER HERE PRESENT IS WHEN WE TALK OF
10:11:52AM COMPREHENSIVE PLANS THAT MAY EXPAND UP TO 2045, AND WE ARE
10:11:56AM DEALING WITH THIS BUDGET THIS MORNING.
10:11:58AM OF THE IMPRESSION THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT STILL HEARING THE DIRE
10:12:04AM NEEDS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
10:12:05AM WE CAN NOT TALK ABOUT A $5.5 MILLION BUDGET, SET ASIDE A
10:12:12AM FUNDING FOR HOUSING WHEN THAT IS THE MOST GREATEST ISSUE OF
10:12:16AM TODAY.
10:12:17AM NUMBER ONE, TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS NUMBER ONE IN
10:12:21AM RECIDIVISM OF PEOPLE COME FROM PRISON AND TURNING AROUND
10:12:28AM BASICALLY BECAUSE, WHY?
10:12:30AM CAN'T FIND JOBS.
10:12:31AM CAN'T FIND HOUSING.
10:12:32AM SO THEY MIGHT BE PART OF THE POPULATION THAT IS ON THE LOWER
10:12:37AM PART.
10:12:37AM BUT RIGHT NOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE SECTION 8 VOUCHERS, IT DOES
10:12:43AM THEM NO FOOD TO CALL THE HOTLINE.
10:12:45AM IF THE HOTLINE CANNOT PROVIDE A HOUSING MECHANISM FOR THESE
10:12:49AM INDIVIDUALS, THEN WE ARE JUST PLAYING EXAMS.
10:12:52AM THAT IF THIS CITY AND THE MAYOR, IN PARTICULAR, IS MORE
10:12:56AM FOCUSED ON DEVELOPMENT FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP, WHAT DOES THAT SAY
10:13:01AM ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE THAT CANNOT BUY
10:13:04AM HOUSES AT THIS TIME?
10:13:06AM WE HAVE A DIRE CRISIS THAT REQUIRES YOU ALL TO THINK OUT THE
10:13:13AM BOX.
10:13:13AM YOU ALL TO DEMAND THAT THIS BUDGET THAT WE LOOKED AT MORE
10:13:18AM FORTHRIGHTLY TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE IN
10:13:22AM WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE DIGNITY AND LIVE IN.
10:13:24AM WE HAVE NEVER MENTIONED OF DUPLEXES, QUADPLEXES AND ANYTHING
10:13:30AM OF THAT SORT.
10:13:31AM YOU KNOW WHY?
10:13:33AM BECAUSE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THAT.
10:13:35AM SO I DON'T WANT TO ACCUSED THE ADMINISTRATION OF YOU GUYS OF
10:13:39AM JUST BEING DEEP POCKETS IN THE HANDS OF DEVELOPERS.
10:13:43AM BUT THIS IS CAPITALIST SOCIETY.
10:13:47AM SO WHEN THE REVENUE AND PROFIT, THAT IS WHERE THE INTEREST
10:13:52AM LIES.
10:13:52AM WE ARE HOPING THAT BUDGET BE REWORKED AND THAT IF YOU HAVE
10:13:56AM LISTENED TO US FOR THE PAST TWO OR THREE YEARS MORE, THEN
10:14:00AM HOUSING WILL BE TOP PRIORITY, NOT JUST IN CONVERSATION, BUT
10:14:05AM WITH MORE FUNDING.
10:14:06AM THANK YOU.
10:14:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS BURTON.
10:14:09AM >> UHURU.
10:14:16AM IT MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI, AND WE, AS AFRICAN PEOPLE, SHOULD
10:14:21AM BE THINKING OF OUR FREEDOM.
10:14:22AM ONE THING KNOWING ABOUT POLITICIANS AND POLITICIANS ARE
10:14:27AM PIMPS, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
10:14:29AM HOW THEY TREAT THE PEOPLE.
10:14:31AM $2 BILLION BUDGET AND $5 MILLION -- MY SINCERE APOLOGIES.
10:14:35AM EVERYONE HERE IS LINED UP ABOUT HOUSING.
10:14:38AM AND $5 MILLION IS AN INSULT, THAT IS WHAT IT IS WHAT THEY SAY AND
10:14:43AM THEY HAVE $20 MILLION OR $30 MILLION ON THE SIDE BUT A $2
10:14:46AM BILLION BUDGET, $1.9 BILLION, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS,
10:14:52AM 26% OF THE POPULATION.
10:14:53AM WE AFRICANS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE 26% OF THIS POPULATION
10:14:57AM AND WE WANT $520 MILLION OUTS OF THE BUDGET.
10:15:00AM PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
10:15:01AM I DON'T CARE WHAT WE DO.
10:15:02AM BOUGHT BEER, ICE CREAM, TWERK WITH IT WHATSOEVER.
10:15:07AM WHATEVER WE DID WITH IT, IT IS OUR BUSINESS.
10:15:10AM WE NEED TO START THERE AND.
10:15:12AM RETROACTIVELY WHAT WE TALK ABOUT WITH REPARATIONS FROM THIS
10:15:16AM CITY.
10:15:16AM YOU HAVE TO TALK REPARATIONS.
10:15:18AM THE PROBLEM ISN'T LANDLORDS.
10:15:20AM THE PROBLEM ISN'T TEENAGED DELINQUENTS.
10:15:23AM THE PROBLEM ISN'T BICYCLE STOPS AND THE PROBLEM ISN'T
10:15:29AM HOMELESSNESS.
10:15:29AM ONE PROBLEM AND ONE PROBLEM ONLY, CAPITALISM,
10:15:35AM IMPERIALISM.
10:15:37AM TO KEEP THE RESOURCE, INFEN NUDITY, ENVIRONMENT,
10:15:42AM TECHNOLOGIES, SPACE EXPLORATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE FOR
10:15:44AM THEMSELVES.
10:15:45AM THE PROBLEM IS 11% OF WHITE POPULATION IN THE WORLD USING
10:15:50AM AND TAKING FOR THEMSELVES 81% OF THE WORLD'S RESOURCES.
10:15:53AM THE PROBLEM IS AN 80% PAY INCREASE THAT THIS CITY HAS SEEN
10:15:58AM POLICE AND FIRE GOT LAST WEEK.
10:16:00AM THAT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS.
10:16:01AM WHERE DO THEY DO THAT?
10:16:03AM WHERE DO YOU GET A 18% INCREASE IN YOUR JOB LIKE THAT?
10:16:07AM IT DON'T HAPPEN.
10:16:08AM THE PROBLEM IS THEM USING ANY TIME OF FORCE TO RUN THE
10:16:13AM WORLD.
10:16:14AM MILITARY MINDS IN THE FORM OF BUSINESS PEOPLE, CORPORATE
10:16:18AM EXECUTIVES, CHURCH LEADERS, TEACHERS, PHYSICIANS, LITTLE OLD
10:16:22AM LADIES, LBGTQ, RIGHT RING, LEFT RING, WHITE, ABORTION RIGHTS..
10:16:29AM ANTI-ABORTION.
10:16:32AM THE PROBLEM IS CAPITALISM.
10:16:33AM THE PROBLEM IS CAPITALISM REINVENTING ITSELF FROM SURF.DOM
10:16:42AM TO CHATTEL SLAVERY TO WAGE UP AND TECHNOLOGY.
10:16:48AM CAPITALISM REINVENTING ITSELF.
10:16:52AM THE PROBLEM IS REPARATIONS.
10:16:54AM THE PROBLEM ISN'T HAVING A $1.9 BILLION BUDGET AND SAY $5
10:16:58AM MILLION FOR PEOPLE DEALING WITH HOUSING.
10:17:02AM YOU CAN GO OUTSIDE AND LOOK AT WHAT THE HOUSING SITUATION IS
10:17:05AM LIKE.
10:17:05AM PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE SIDEWALKS THAT WE HAVE SEEN ON OUR
10:17:08AM WAY HERE TO CITY COUNCIL.
10:17:09AM DEPLORABLE.
10:17:10AM ABSOLUTELY.
10:17:12AM THANK YOU.
10:17:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. DANIELS, YOU ARE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY
10:17:16AM OF TAMPA, AREN'T YOU?
10:17:17AM THANK YOU.
10:17:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, CHLOE CONEY.
10:17:28AM I LIVE 2303 VANDY DRIVE.
10:17:32AM THAT IS IN THE COUNTY, BUT I BUILD ENOUGH HOUSES,
10:17:36AM APARTMENTS, GOTTEN PEOPLE JOBS, CHILDREN, TO COLLEGE.
10:17:38AM I WAS RAISED IN WEST TAMPA, SO I KNOW ABOUT THE URBAN CORE,
10:17:42AM OKAY.
10:17:43AM SO, AGAIN, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL
10:17:47AM FOR YOUR VOTE LAST WEEK TO ALLOW THE CITIZENS TO VOTE.
10:17:53AM TO LET THEM SPEAK.
10:17:54AM TO LET THEIR VOICE BE HEARD.
10:17:56AM I COMMEND ALL OF YOU AND THANK YOU, CITY COUNCILMAN ORLANDO
10:18:03AM GUDES FOR STARTING THAT.
10:18:03AM OKAY.
10:18:04AM I TIP MY HAT OFF ALL TO YOU.
10:18:07AM BECAUSE WHEN WE ARE TALKING OF RECESSION AND A GREAT
10:18:09AM RECESSION I HAVE WORKED THE LAST 50 YEARS.
10:18:12AM WE HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A TIME WHERE THE WHOLE WORLD WAS SHUT
10:18:16AM DOWN WITH COVID.
10:18:18AM WITH COVID.
10:18:19AM AND WE KNOW WHO WAS HAD THE HIT THE HARDEST, THE POOR,
10:18:25AM LOW INCOME AND MODERATE PEOPLE.
10:18:28AM THEY TOOK THE BLOOD OF THIS.
10:18:29AM SO I AM SAYING THAT -- THANK YOU.
10:18:32AM BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT WORRIED ABOUT A LAWSUIT.
10:18:35AM YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE PEOPLE.
10:18:36AM THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES.
10:18:38AM I AM STANDING HERE BECAUSE ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
10:18:39AM I GET ENOUGH CALLS.
10:18:41AM I GOT FAMILY MEMBERS THAT MAYBE OUT ON THE STREET BECAUSE
10:18:45AM THEIR RENT IS INCREASING.
10:18:47AM YOU KNOW ALL THE PROBLEMS.
10:18:48AM SO WE CAN'T SIT AROUND HERE AND DO NOTHING.
10:18:51AM WE CAN NOT DO NOTHING.
10:18:53AM SO, AGAIN, CITY COUNCIL, YOU ARE DOING WHAT IS RIGHT.
10:18:57AM AND WE CAN SAY THAT WE LOOK AT CITIES LIKE WASHINGTON D.C.
10:19:02AM AND NEW YORK.
10:19:03AM THEY HAVE RENT CONTROL.
10:19:04AM BUT DEVELOPERS CITY BUILDING HOUSES.
10:19:06AM SO WE KNOW IT CAN BE DONE.
10:19:09AM AND, AGAIN, WE KNOW LAWS CAN BE CHANGED.
10:19:12AM ALL WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IS ROE V. WADE.
10:19:16AM AND WE KNOW THAT THE LAW CAN BE CHANGED.
10:19:20AM WE CAN CHANGE THIS.
10:19:21AM WE HEARD REPRESENTATIVE DIANE HART LAST WEEK SAYING WORK
10:19:24AM WITH US IN TALLAHASSEE.
10:19:26AM I BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL HEAR OUR CRY IN TALLAHASSEE.
10:19:30AM IF NOT, LIKE YOU ARE DOING HERE, LET THE PEOPLE VOTE.
10:19:33AM AND LIKE I LIKE TO SAY, WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS SAVING LIVES.
10:19:37AM FOR THOSE SENIORS THAT ARE SITTING OUT HERE AND YOU HEARD
10:19:41AM THEM SPEAK.
10:19:42AM YOU ARE SAVING THEM FROM GOING HOMELESS.
10:19:44AM TO THE MOTHERS THAT HAVE TO LIVE IN MOTELS AND DON'T HAVE
10:19:50AM ANYWHERE TO STAY AND MOST OF ALL ONE OF MY SADDEST -- AND I
10:19:55AM WILL END WITH THIS, THE CASE WHERE MOTHERS AND CHILDREN ARE
10:19:58AM IN CARS AND DYING.
10:19:59AM SO, AGAIN, LET'S SAVE LIVES.
10:20:01AM AND AGAIN I COMMEND YOU.
10:20:02AM [CLAPPING]
10:20:04AM -- I WANT TO SAY THAT CITY COUNCIL.
10:20:06AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
10:20:07AM THANK YOU.
10:20:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:20:15AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:20:18AM MY NAME IS --
10:20:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I APOLOGIZE.
10:20:21AM I HAVE GOTTEN NEWS THAT I RELAY LATER.
10:20:24AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:20:25AM >> MY NAME IS DAVID SINCLAIR, 8434 PEBBLE CIRCLE.
10:20:29AM I LIVE IN THE COUNTY.
10:20:30AM HOWEVER, I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING LULAC, THE LEAGUE OF
10:20:35AM UNITED AMERICAN CITIZENS AND I AM THE DEPUTY COUNCIL, THE
10:20:41AM DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE LOCAL LULAC COUNCIL.
10:20:45AM I'M HERE TO READ THE STATEMENT OF OUR LOCAL COUNCIL TO THE
10:20:50AM CITY COUNCIL HERE IN TAMPA WE HAVE DECIDED AND VOTED ON THE
10:20:56AM FOLLOWING STATEMENT ITCH BEFORE THE IMMINENT BODY HERE THAT
10:21:01AM WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE TENANT
10:21:04AM ADVOCACY OFFICE UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
10:21:10AM FACILITATE THE PROMOTION OF THE TENANTS RIGHTS WHICH INCLUDE
10:21:15AM RENT STABILIZATION MEASURES TO THE DECLARATION OF THE
10:21:21AM HOUSING STATE OF EMERGENCY.
10:21:24AM ALSO A 120-DAY NOTICE OF RENT RATE INCREASES AT OR ABOVE 5%
10:21:31AM AND THE CREATION OF A LANDLORD COMPLAINT REGISTRY.
10:21:37AM AND THE RIGHT TO LEGAL COUNSEL FOR NEGATIVELY IMPACTED
10:21:42AM TENANTS FACING EVICTIONS.
10:21:44AM WE ARE A STATEWIDE ORGANIZATION, BUT WE ALSO HAVE MEMBERS
10:21:47AM HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:21:48AM AND WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THIS IS A
10:21:52AM SIGNIFICANT MORAL ISSUE.
10:21:54AM THANK YOU.
10:21:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:21:56AM GOOD MORNING.
10:22:03AM MY NAME IS CRAIG BIRCHFIELD.
10:22:07AM I AM A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:22:09AM I'M HERE AS A MEMBER OF THE TENANT UNION.
10:22:13AM I'M HERE IN SOLIDARITY WITH MY COMRADES AND FELLOW COMMUNITY
10:22:17AM MEMBERS CALLING FOR ACTION ON HOUSING AND ABORTION.
10:22:21AM I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE TWO.GROUPS OF PEOPLE
10:22:24AM OFTEN REPRESENTED -- ONLY REPRESENTED IN THIS ROOM BECAUSE
10:22:26AM THESE TWO GROUPS HAVE VERY DIFFERENT INTERESTS ON EVEN OF
10:22:30AM THESE ISSUES.
10:22:30AM ONE HAND THE RULING CLASS, LANDLORDS, DEVELOPERS, BOSSES AND
10:22:34AM BUSINESS OWNERS AND POLITICIANS AND POLICE THAT PROTECT
10:22:37AM THEIR INTEREST.
10:22:37AM ON THE OTHER HAND, US, THE WORKING-CLASS HAD TO BEG THE
10:22:41AM COUNCIL TO HAVE AN OUNCE OF POLITICAL WILL TO TAKE ACTION
10:22:45AM FOR OUR INTERESTS TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
10:22:47AM I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCILMAN
10:22:51AM CARLSON, THE DECISION TO START THE PROCESS OF PUTTING RENT
10:22:54AM CONTROL ON THE BALLOT IS APPRECIATED.
10:22:56AM AT THE SAME TIME, THE WORKING-CLASS IN THE CITY, WE ARE TOO
10:22:59AM FAMILIAR WITH EMPTY PROMISES AND COMPROMISE IN FAVOR OF THE
10:23:02AM RULING CLASS.
10:23:02AM SO YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LET OUR GUARD
10:23:05AM DOWN.
10:23:06AM WE CAN'T AFFORD TO NOT BE MILITANT ABOUT THESE ISSUES
10:23:09AM BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE WORKING-CLASS OF TAMPA FACES MULTIPLE
10:23:12AM CRISIS.
10:23:13AM THE GREED OF THE RULING MUCH IF CLASS PRICES US OUT OF OUR
10:23:17AM HOMES AND FORCES US TO MAKE IMPOSSIBLE CHOICES WHICH BILLS
10:23:21AM TO PAY.
10:23:21AM NEED FOR DOMESTIC LABOR SUPPLY AND FASCIST IDEOLOGY
10:23:26AM THREATENS TO YOU OUR BODILY AUTONOMY AND ACCESS TO HEALTH
10:23:29AM CARE.
10:23:30AM THE VIOLENCE OF TPD TO PROTECT THEIR PROFITS AND PROPERTIES
10:23:34AM HAVE ROBBED US OF RESOURCES THAT COULD BE ENRICHING AND
10:23:37AM HOUSING OUR COMMUNITY.
10:23:38AM THE COUNCIL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAND WITH THE
10:23:40AM WORKING-CLASS ON EACH OF THESE ISSUES BY ENSURING THAT RENT
10:23:45AM CONTROL IS ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER.
10:23:47AM SUPPORTING FUNDING FOR CITY-OWNED HOUSING.
10:23:49AM TENANT PROTECTIONS AND HOUSING FIRST PROGRAMS.
10:23:52AM PASSING AN ORDINANCE TO DECRIMINALIZE ABORTION AND ENDING
10:23:56AM THE TYRANNY OF TPD ON OUR COMMUNITIES AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
10:23:59AM OUR BUDGET.
10:24:00AM IF YOU WERE CONCERNED OF COMMUNITY SAFETY, I SAW THAT
10:24:03AM THE TPD IS STILL 36% OF THAT GENERAL BUDGET OR WHATEVER IT
10:24:06AM MAY BE.
10:24:07AM MAYBE WE SHOULD START TAKING MONEY FROM THEM AND ALLOCATE
10:24:10AM WITH HOUSING.
10:24:11AM AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID $5 MILLION IS HONESTLY A SLAP IN
10:24:14AM THE FACE.
10:24:15AM NOT ENOUGH.
10:24:15AM WE DON'T NEED NOR TANKS OR GEAR FOR OUR COPS.
10:24:19AM WHAT WE NEED IS HOUSING.
10:24:20AM WHAT WE NEED IS COMMUNITY SAFETY.
10:24:21AM WE CAN HAVE A TAMPA THAT WORKS FOR THE WORKING-CLASS, A CITY
10:24:25AM THAT WE CAN TRULY BE PROUD OF AND ONE THAT SETS AN EXAMPLE
10:24:28AM FOR THE REST OF THE STATE SUFFERING FROM A FASCIST STATE
10:24:31AM GOVERNMENT.
10:24:32AM OR WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE TAMPA THAT ANSWERS ONLY TO MONEY.
10:24:35AM I ASK THAT THE COUNCIL SHOW US CONTINUED ACTION THAT YOU
10:24:38AM STAND WITH THE WORKING-CLASS AND AGAINST THOSE WHOSE
10:24:40AM INTERESTS ARE COUNT TO OUR WELL BEING.
10:24:42AM WE THE WORKING-CLASS ARE ORGANIZING.
10:24:44AM THROUGH THAT COLLECTIVE POWER WE WILL HOLD EACH OF YOU
10:24:47AM ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE ACTIONS TAKE ON YOUR TIME.
10:24:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:24:55AM >> HELLO, I AM NOT A RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
10:24:58AM I AM A LANDLORD IN TAMPA.
10:24:59AM I AM A RESIDENT OF PINELLAS COUNTY.
10:25:01AM I AM LEGAL IMMIGRANT FROM GERMANY CAUSING MY ACCENT.
10:25:07AM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
10:25:09AM WE HAVE -- WE HAVE SEVERAL OBJECTS IN TAMPA BAY.
10:25:15AM ONE OF THIS IS WEST RIVER FLATS, 13500 COMMUNITY IN WEST
10:25:23AM RIVER.
10:25:23AM WE HAVE A LOT OF SECTION 8 TENANTS AND APPRECIATE THEM AND
10:25:28AM GIVE THEM, OF COURSE, HOUSING.
10:25:30AM SO THAT'S WHAT WE AS A PRIVATE LANDLORD ARE DOING.
10:25:33AM ALL OUR STAFF AND IS DEDICATE TO HELP PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE
10:25:40AM DIFFICULTIES.
10:25:40AM IF THE TENANT WORKS WITH THE OFFICE THERE -- FOR INSTANCE,
10:25:45AM WITH MY FLORIDA, WHICH EXPIRED, I THINK RIGHT NOW -- LAST
10:25:50AM MONTH OR SO.
10:25:51AM THEN WE COULD AVOID EVERY SINGLE ONE WHO WORK WITH THEM TO
10:25:55AM GET EVICTED.
10:25:56AM SO WE SHARE THE HELP LINE YOU MENTIONED WITH OUR TENANTS.
10:26:02AM ONE EXAMPLE WHY RENTS GO UP IS JUST WEST RIVER FLATS.
10:26:08AM THE PROPERTY TAXES GOING UP, GOING UP 253,254.74 IN THE LAST
10:26:20AM YEAR.
10:26:20AM IF I COUNT THAT TO THE UNITS, THEN ROUGHLY EVERY UNIT PAYS
10:26:25AM $200 MORE JUST FOR TAX INCREASE.
10:26:27AM THAT IS NOT INCLUDING THE INSURANCE INCREASE.
10:26:32AM NOT INCLUDING THE INCREASE WE HAVE IN SALARIES FOR OUR STAFF
10:26:35AM ON-SITE WHICH WE WANT AND WILL ALWAYS PAY DECENTLY.
10:26:38AM THE SUPPLY -- I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING FOR MY PERSONAL
10:26:43AM EXPERIENCE.
10:26:43AM I AM FROM BERLIN, GERMANY.
10:26:45AM IN BERLIN, GERMANY, THEY INTRODUCED RENT CAP BASICALLY
10:26:50AM COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
10:26:51AM AND IN THE MONTHS THE LAW WAS IMPLEMENTED, THE SUPPLY WAS
10:26:58AM DOWN BY ABOUT 60%.
10:27:01AM I'LL REPEAT, 60%.
10:27:03AM 60% LESS UNITS TO RENT DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY
10:27:08AM AND FOR THE RENTERS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
10:27:11AM AND, OF COURSE, WHAT THE RESULT IS NOBODY WILL INVEST
10:27:17AM ANYMORE IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
10:27:18AM AND THAT IS WHAT I SAY YOU SHOULD NOT IMPLEMENT THE RENT
10:27:23AM CONTROL IN TAMPA THANK YOU.
10:27:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:27:26AM HELLO.
10:27:35AM MY NAME IS PEYTON HOEY, AND I'M A RESIDENT OF TAMPA AND A PROUD
10:27:39AM MEMBER OF THE TENANTS UNION.
10:27:41AM I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE THE WORKING PEOPLE OF TAMPA HAVE BEEN
10:27:45AM SUFFERING UNDER A HOUSING EMERGENCY FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS
10:27:47AM NOW.
10:27:47AM RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE REACHED A TURNING POINT.
10:27:50AM THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO DRAMATICALLY IMPROVE THE
10:27:53AM SITUATION OF TENANTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA BY CREATING A
10:27:55AM TENANT ADVOCACY OFFICE AND ALLOWING THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA TO
10:28:00AM VOTE ON RENT CONTROL MEASURE TO CURB RENTS IN THIS CITY.
10:28:04AM I IMPLORE YOU ALL FOR STRONG RENT CONTROL LANGUAGE TO MEET
10:28:09AM THE CRISIS THAT WE ARE IN.
10:28:11AM NOW IS THE TIME TO TAKE DECISIVE ACTION ON THE SIDE OF THE
10:28:14AM PEOPLE AND NOTBOW DOWN TO THE AGENDA OF DEVELOPERS AND
10:28:19AM LANDLORDS WHO CARE MORE ABOUT THEIR BOTTOM LINE THAN THE
10:28:24AM CITY AND RESIDENTS.
10:28:24AM ULTIMATELY LEFT TO THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA TO DECIDE AS THEY
10:28:27AM MAKE THE CITY RUN.
10:28:28AM IT IS THE TEACHERS, THE BUS DRIVERS, THE SERVERS, BARISTAS,
10:28:35AM CUSTODIANS, SO MANY THAT ARE THE HEART OF THE CITY AND
10:28:40AM FORCIBLY DISPLACED BY THE UNJUST RENT HIKES.
10:28:43AM WE DEMAND THE LOWEST POSSIBLE PERCENTAGE.
10:28:45AM NOT A DIME MORE THAN 5% AND MORE MONEY FOR CITY-OWNED HOUSE
10:28:50AM THE UPCOMING BUDGET.
10:28:51AM A TENANT ADVOCACY OFFICE WILL BE AN IMPORTANT STEP TOWARD
10:28:55AM HOUSING JUSTICE IN TAMPA AS TOO OFTEN DO LANDLORDS EXPLOIT
10:28:59AM THEIR TENANTS WITH ILLEGAL THREATS OF EVICTIONS.
10:29:01AM I HAVE SEEN CASES TIME AND TIME AGAIN TENANTS DON'T REALIZE
10:29:05AM THEY CAN FIGHT BACK AGAINST WRONGFUL EVICTIONS AND
10:29:08AM UNWRONGFUL LEASE TERMINATIONS AND DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES
10:29:13AM TO DO SO.
10:29:13AM THEREFORE, INVESTMENT IN TENANT ADVOCACY IS A NECESSARY STEP
10:29:17AM FOR THE CITY.
10:29:18AM IF CITY COUNCIL PUTS A SERIOUS RENT CONTROL MEASURE ON THE
10:29:22AM BALLOT, WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE WILL SHOW UP AND VOTE FOR IT.
10:29:27AM THE PEOPLE ARE READY TO SEE THE CITY TAKE A MORE ACTIVE ROLE
10:29:31AM IN FIGHTING THE HOUSING EMERGENCY.
10:29:32AM THE PEOPLE ARE READY TO HAVE AN OFFICE THAT ADVOCATES FOR
10:29:35AM THE RIGHTS OF TENANTS.
10:29:36AM THE PEOPLE ARE READY TO SEE PUBLIC HOUSING DEFUNDED INSTEAD
10:29:42AM OF HANDOUT TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES.
10:29:44AM YOU ARE HERE ON THE PEOPLE'S BEHALF.
10:29:46AM THANK YOU.
10:29:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:29:51AM HI, GOOD MORNING.
10:29:52AM MY NAME IS PRINCESS MENDOZA.
10:29:55AM I AM A RESIDENT OF TAMPA, AND I HAVE BEEN A PROPERTY MANAGER
10:29:58AM FOR ABOUT 13 YEARS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
10:30:00AM TODAY I WILL BE TALKING OF THE RENT CONTROL FROM LANDLORDS
10:30:04AM -- FROM THE LANDLORD'S POINT OF VIEW.
10:30:07AM INFLATION NOT ONLY EFFECTED RESIDENTS PAYING A HIGHER
10:30:12AM REPRESENT INCREASE IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, BUT MADE A HUGE
10:30:16AM FINANCIAL IMPACT FOR LANDLORDS.
10:30:18AM PROPERTIES TAXES INCREASED 37% OVER THE LAST YEAR.
10:30:23AM THE COST OF BASIC MATERIALS TO MAINTAIN THE INVOLVEMENT
10:30:26AM INCREASED 15% DUE TO SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
10:30:28AM IT IS A STRUGGLE TO FIND BASIC MATERIALS AT A MUCH HIGHER
10:30:33AM COST JUST TO BE ABLE TO STILL PROVIDE OUR RESIDENTS WITH THE
10:30:36AM BEST LIVING EXPERIENCE AS POSSIBLE.
10:30:37AM OUR UTILITY CONSUMPTION HAVE GONE UP AN AVERAGE OF 15% DUE
10:30:42AM TO HIGHER RATES AND LIFESTYLE CHANGES.
10:30:47AM MANY RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN WORK FROM HOME; THEREFORE, OUR
10:30:51AM CONSUMPTION HAS INCREASED CONSIDERABLY IN THE PAST TWO
10:30:53AM YEARS.
10:30:54AM OUR COMPANY UNDERSTANDS THAT OUR EMPLOYEE ARE ALSO CONSUMERS
10:30:58AM AND HAVE ALSO BEEN EFFECTED BY THE ECONOMY.
10:31:03AM WE MADE DECISIONS TO.RAISE SALARIES OF HIGHER PAYROLL COST.
10:31:09AM DESPITE COST INCREASES HE WE HAVE BEEN DOING ALL WE CAN TO
10:31:12AM HELP OUR RESIDENTS THROUGH DIFFICULT TIMES THAT WE ARE IN.
10:31:14AM OUR PROPERTY WELCOMES SECTION 8 RESIDENTS WHICH RIGHT NOW
10:31:18AM MAKES UP TO 40% OF OUR LEASE UNITS.
10:31:22AM OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE HAVE WORKED WITH RESIDENTS
10:31:25AM TO GET THEM HELP FROM OUR FLORIDA AND WE PLAN TO DO THE SAME
10:31:31AM WITH THE CITY'S RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
10:31:33AM WE HAVE NOT INCREASED OUR RENTAL PRICES IN THE LAST FIVE
10:31:37AM MONTHS.
10:31:37AM NOT BECAUSE WE WERE FORCED BY SOME GOVERNMENT MANDATE BUT WE
10:31:41AM WANT TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS.
10:31:42AM TYING OUR HANDS WITH RENT CONTROL CREATES UNCERTAINTY.
10:31:46AM IF WE CAN BALANCE EVEN HIGHER COSTS IN THE FUTURE WHICH WILL
10:31:50AM MAKE IT HARDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS.
10:31:53AM SO I'M ASKING TO PLEASE DO NOT PASSES THAT ORDINANCE.
10:31:56AM THANK YOU.
10:31:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:31:58AM >> GOOD MORNING, ROBERT GRIFFITHS.
10:32:04AM I AM A 20-YEAR RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
10:32:07AM I FIRST CAME TO TAMPA 35 YEARS AGO.
10:32:11AM I WAS VERY INVOLVED WITH THE BAY AREA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
10:32:15AM I GREW TO BE A FORMER -- TODAY A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE BAY
10:32:19AM AREA PARTNER ASSOCIATION AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE BAY
10:32:23AM AREA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION IS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF TRYING
10:32:24AM TO WORK THINGS OUT OF IT THIS SITUATION.
10:32:28AM THEY DO WORK WITH CITY COUNCIL.
10:32:31AM SOME OF MY PEOPLE FROM BEHIND ME HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ON SOME
10:32:35AM OF YOUR MEETINGS BEFORE.
10:32:36AM BAY AREA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION CARES ABOUT THEIR RESIDENTS.
10:32:42AM THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE ALL RIGHT.
10:32:44AM BUT I ASK CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK AT A FEW THINGS ON THE OTHER
10:32:48AM SIDE, IF YOU WILL, ON RENT CONTROL.
10:32:50AM RENT CONTROL IN THE CITY HAS CREATED SOME PROBLEMS.
10:32:54AM YOU LOOK AT ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA.
10:32:58AM IT ACTUALLY STOPPED A LOT OF THE GROWTH.
10:33:00AM AND I COMMEND THE CITY -- THE CITY COUNCIL, THE MAYOR FOR
10:33:04AM THE GROWTH YOU ARE TRYING TO DO IN TAMPA I THINK YOU ARE
10:33:08AM DOING A WONDERFUL JOB WITH THE GROWTH.
10:33:09AM YOU ARE TRYING TO BRING IN NEW BUSINESSES, NEW PEOPLE.
10:33:12AM IN DOING THAT, YOU NEED APARTMENTS.
10:33:14AM APARTMENTS ARE HERE TO TRY TO HELP RESIDENTS AND TRY TO WORK
10:33:18AM THROUGH THESE THINGS.
10:33:19AM LANDLORDS DO HAVE EXPENSES JUST LIKE THE RESIDENTS DO.
10:33:23AM LANDLORDS HAVE TAXES THAT INCREASE.
10:33:26AM THEIR EXPENSES ARE INCREASED ALL THE TIME.
10:33:28AM I REALIZE THERE HAS GOT TO BE A BALANCE AND I REALIZE YOU
10:33:32AM SHOULD LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THE SADOWSKY SUPERFUND BACK IN
10:33:38AM TALLAHASSEE IS A FUND CREATED TO TRY TO HELP LOW-INCOME
10:33:41AM RESIDENTS FOR HOUSING.
10:33:42AM BUT YET FOR YEARS, THEY TOOK THE MONEY FROM SADOWSKY AND
10:33:48AM TOOK IT AND DID OTHER THINGS WITH IT.
10:33:49AM I ASK YOU TO LOOK AT TALLAHASSEE TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR
10:33:53AM GROWTH AND FIND WAYS TO GET YOUR MONEY THAT YOU NEED FOR
10:33:55AM YOUR GROWTH FOR NEW APARTMENTS.
10:33:58AM APARTMENTS ARE IMPORTANT WITH YOUR GROWTH.
10:34:00AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE FOR HOUSING.
10:34:02AM SO I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU LOOK AT TAMPA BAY.
10:34:06AM PLEASE WORK WITH THE BAY AREA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
10:34:08AM THERE ARE TWO SIDES OF EVERY STORY.
10:34:11AM I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
10:34:12AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP
10:34:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:34:15AM HELLO.
10:34:17AM MY NAME IS CHRIS CARLSON.
10:34:19AM I AM A CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENT.
10:34:21AM I AM A HOSPITAL SOCIAL WORKER AND A MEMBER OF THE TAMPA
10:34:24AM DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA.
10:34:26AM I'M HERE TO VOICE SUPPORT FOR A RESOLUTION TAMPA DRAFTED IN
10:34:32AM CONSULTATION WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK OF DECRIMINALIZE
10:34:38AM ABORTION CITYWIDE.
10:34:40AM THE SUPREME COURT HAS DECIDED WITHIN THEIR POWER TO WRITE
10:34:42AM AWAY OUR BASIC RIGHTS TO HEALTH CARE AND BODILY AUTONOMY.
10:34:46AM AS A RESULT, THE WRITE SOMETHING ON THE WALL FROM
10:34:48AM TALLAHASSEE WHEN IT COMES TO CRIMINALIZING ABORTION OF THE
10:34:51AM HOUSE BILL 5 OF PREGNANT PEOPLE IN FLORIDA IT IS ALREADY
10:34:54AM CRIMINALIZED.
10:34:55AM I CAN TELL YOU MY PATIENTS ARE SCARED.
10:34:57AM MY COLLEAGUES WORK IN HEALTH CARE ARE SCARED.
10:35:00AM AND I AM SCARED.
10:35:01AM I AM SCARED I AM SOON GOING TO LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE MY
10:35:04AM PATIENTS WON'T BE ALLOWED ACCESS TO THE FULL RANGE OF
10:35:07AM REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE THEY NEED AND DESERVE.
10:35:09AM I AM SCARED INNOCENT PEOPLE WILL BE THROWN IN JAIL.
10:35:12AM I AM SCARED THOUSANDS OF HEALTH CARE WORKERS WILL NO LONGER
10:35:15AM WANT TO WORK IN FLORIDA.
10:35:16AM AND I AM SCARED PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE.
10:35:18AM GUARANTEE TEED ACCESS TO ABORTION IS A DECIDING FACTOR IN
10:35:22AM LONG-TERM HEALTH, SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
10:35:25AM THIS IS BASIC PUBLIC HEALTH.
10:35:27AM ELIMINATING THAT ACCESS IS CRUEL AND DEADLY.
10:35:30AM ENFORCE ITS CRIMINALIZATION, NO MATTER WHAT TALLAHASSEE SAYS
10:35:35AM OR MAY END UP SAYING WILL BE THE WORK OF COWARDS.
10:35:38AM STATE ATTORNEY ANDREW WARREN HAS BEEN SUSPENDED BY GOVERNOR
10:35:43AM RON DeSANTIS FOR HIS ACTIONS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IN
10:35:46AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
10:35:46AM AND I COMMEND HIM FOR HIM TAKING A STAND.
10:35:49AM THE CITY COUNCIL'S SUPPORT FOR THIS RESOLUTION IS THE BARE
10:35:53AM MINIMUM BUT SIGNAL TO THE TAMPA COMMUNITY THAT THE COUNCIL
10:35:56AM IS READY TO DEFEND OUR BASIC LIBERTIES OF PEOPLE TRYING TO
10:36:00AM VICIOUSLY TRYING TO TAKE THEM AWAY.
10:36:02AM THIS RESOLUTION PROVIDES A FRAMEWORK FOR SOMETHING MORE.
10:36:04AM SOMETHING BINDING AND TANGIBLE.
10:36:06AM ONLY THE FIRST STEP.
10:36:07AM THIS FIGHT IS JUST THE BEGINNING.
10:36:09AM AND I ASSURE YOU YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM ME AND TAMPA DSA
10:36:13AM AGAIN.
10:36:13AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY WHO SUPPORTS THIS RESOLUTION.
10:36:15AM AND THANK YOU FOR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO HAVE THE COURAGE TO
10:36:18AM PUT IT FORWARD.
10:36:19AM ANOTHER THING, EVERY DAY I GO TO WORK IN THE HOSPITAL, I AM
10:36:22AM FACE TO FACE WITH PATIENTS WHO ARE HOMELESS OR ON THE BRINK
10:36:25AM OF HOMELESSNESS.
10:36:26AM PATIENTS REGULARLY TELL ME THEY FEEL THEIR GOVERNMENT HAS
10:36:29AM ABANDONED THEM.
10:36:30AM THAT THEY HAVE NO OPTIONS.
10:36:31AM THAT THEY ARE DONE BOND BOUNCING FROM HOMELESS SHELTER TO
10:36:35AM HOMELESS SHELTER AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WILL CARRY ON.
10:36:39AM SOLIDARITY TO EVERYBODY HERE COURAGEOUSLY FIGHTING FOR
10:36:43AM BETTER HOUSING CONDITIONS.
10:36:44AM AND SOLIDARITY FOREVER.
10:36:46AM THANK YOU.
10:36:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:36:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, ELIZA PEREZ, AND I AM A RESIDENT OF TAMPA, AND I
10:36:55AM AM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE TAMPA DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF
10:36:58AM AMERICA.
10:36:58AM THE PROTECTION OF HUMAN RIGHTS FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS ARE VERY
10:37:03AM IMPORTANT TO THE DSA.
10:37:04AM WE DECLARE THE ACCESS TO SAFE AND LEGAL ABORTION IS A HUMAN
10:37:07AM RIGHT.
10:37:07AM ANTI-ABORTION LEGISLATION IS A THREAT TO THE HEALTH, SAFETY
10:37:11AM AND QUALITY OF LIFE OF ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO CAN BECOME
10:37:15AM PREGNANT.
10:37:15AM INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN BECOME PREGNANT AND MANY INSTANCES ARE
10:37:19AM ALREADY A MARGINALIZED GROUP AND SO MANY OF THEM ACROSS THIS
10:37:23AM COUNTRY THEIR BODILY AUTONOMY HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY AS WELL.
10:37:26AM IF THEY HAPPEN TO GET PRESENTS, THEY ARE THEN EXPECTED TO
10:37:29AM CARE FOR ANOTHER HUMAN BEING AND AT THE SAME TIME BEING TOLD
10:37:32AM THAT THEY ARE NOT CAPABLE OF MAKING DECISION OF THEIR OWN
10:37:35AM BODIES.
10:37:35AM WE EXPECT THEM TO TAKE ON SUDDEN LIFE-ALTERING
10:37:39AM RESPONSIBILITIES BUT NOT VALUED AS INDEPENDENT AND CAPABLE
10:37:42AM BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT.
10:37:43AM THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR LOW-INCOME COMMUNITIES AND PEOPLE OF
10:37:47AM COLOR WHO ARE MOST ADVERSELY AFFECTED BY ANTI-ABORTION
10:37:50AM LEGISLATION.
10:37:51AM ON TOP OF ALL THIS, RECENT LEGISLATIONS IN FLORIDA HAVE BEEN
10:37:54AM VAGUE, CONFUSING AND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE
10:37:57AM ALREADY.
10:37:57AM SEX EDUCATION TEXTBOOKS ARE CLOSE TO BEING REJECTED IN
10:38:00AM SCHOOLS BECAUSE OF PARENTS RIGHTS AND EDUCATION.
10:38:02AM HB 5 BANS ABORTION AFTER 15 BEAKS OF PRESS.
10:38:08AM WITHOUT OCCASIONS OF RAP, SEX TRAFFICKING.
10:38:11AM THIS BILL VIOLATES.
10:38:14AM AND THE BILL WAS INITIALLY HALTED BY THE FLORIDA SUPREME
10:38:18AM COURT.
10:38:18AM I CANNOT COMPREMEND LIVING IN A COMMUNITY WHERE SEX
10:38:23AM EDUCATION THREATENED.
10:38:25AM AND THE PEOPLE AFFECTED BY THIS ARE MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES
10:38:29AM AND CHILDREN.
10:38:29AM A LIMIT ON ABORTIONS SUCH AS HB 5 IS DANGEROUS AND
10:38:34AM WORST-CASE SCENARIO, A VICTIM CANNOT TERMINATE PREGNANCY IN
10:38:38AM THEIR OWN STATE UNLESS THEY ARE LITERALLY DYING FROM THAT
10:38:41AM PRESS.
10:38:41AM I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS CAN BE CONSIDERED PRO LIFE AND HOW
10:38:44AM THIS IS HAPPENING IN AN ADVANCED SOCIETY SUCH AS OURS.
10:38:47AM THE MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA DSA DO NOT ACCEPT ANY LIMITS ON
10:38:50AM ABORTION AND REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE.
10:38:52AM WE DEMAND ACCESS TO SAFE AND LEGAL ABORTIONS FOR ALL
10:38:55AM INDIVIDUALS AT ANY TIME AT ANY REASON.
10:38:58AM TODAY I AM URGING THE COUNCIL TO VOTE ON PASSING A
10:39:01AM RESOLUTION THAT WAS DRAFTED IN COLLABORATION WITH MISS
10:39:05AM HURTAK.
10:39:05AM AND THAT FELLOW DSA MEMBERS WORKED SO HARD AND DONE AN
10:39:11AM AMAZING JOB WITH.
10:39:12AM SUPPORTING ACCESS TO SAFE ABORTIONS.
10:39:14AM AND I THINK YOUR DECISION TODAY SHOULD BE A REFLECTION OF
10:39:17AM WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.
10:39:18AM THANK YOU.
10:39:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:39:26AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:39:27AM MY NAME IS DAVID SIGLER.
10:39:30AM I AM A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER.
10:39:31AM I AM NOT A TAMPA RESIDENT; HOWEVER, OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS,
10:39:35AM I HAVE MANAGED THOUSANDS OF PROPERTIES IN THE TAMPA BAY
10:39:37AM COMMUNITY AND THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES.
10:39:39AM WE HAVE DEALT WITH LANDLORDS WHO ARE ACCIDENTAL LANDLORDS.
10:39:43AM WE HAVE DEALT WITH MOM AND POP INVESTORS.
10:39:46AM WE HAVE DEALT WITH SMALL FUNDS AND THE INSTITUTIONAL CLASS.
10:39:49AM WE DEAL WITH FIVE OR SIX HOUSING AUTHORITIES IN MULTIPLE
10:39:53AM COUNTIES, SO WE ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROGRAMS OUT
10:39:55AM THERE, THE HOUSING SITUATION THAT ARE OCCURRING, AND OUR
10:39:58AM CONCERN AS MANY OF THE CITIZENS IN THE ROOM.
10:40:00AM HOWEVER, MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE EMERGENCY WE ARE
10:40:02AM ADDRESSING HERE?
10:40:03AM WE HAVE A DECLARATION FOR AN EMERGENCY.
10:40:05AM BECAUSE RENTS ARE TOO HIGH?
10:40:07AM BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH UNITS TO BE RENTED?
10:40:10AM THAT ANSWER ULTIMATELY WILL DRIVE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE BEING
10:40:14AM ASKED TO DO HERE.
10:40:15AM THE STUDIES WE HAVE SEEN REGARDING RENT CONTROL DO NOT OFFER
10:40:20AM SOLUTIONS FOR MORE HOUSING.
10:40:21AM THEY DO JUST THE OPPOSITE.
10:40:23AM THEY REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF HOUSING THAT IS THERE.
10:40:25AM JUST LIKE MANY OF THESE RESIDENTS, OWNERS OF THESE HOMES AND
10:40:31AM MULTIFAMILY UNITS ARE EXPERIENCING SAME INCREASES IN MILK,
10:40:36AM GAS, INSURANCE COSTS, TAXES.
10:40:38AM SO IF WE ARE GOING TO LIMIT YOUR ABILITY TO PAY FOR THAT
10:40:41AM HOUSING, THAT HOUSING IS GOING TO GO AWAY WHICH IS GOING TO
10:40:45AM EXPONENTIALLY INCREASE THE PROBLEM THAT I BELIEVE IS THE
10:40:50AM EMERGENCY.
10:40:50AM AT A MINIMUM, WE DEFINE WHAT THE EMERGENCY REALLY IS.
10:40:54AM THE COST OR THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
10:40:55AM MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AS WELL, I BELIEVE WERE BASED ON MY
10:41:00AM EXPERIENCE OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS WORK WITH MULTIPLE
10:41:03AM COUNTIES AND CITIES, YET TO BE OFFERED AN INCENTIVE TO WORK
10:41:07AM WITH THIS AND CREATE SOLUTION FOR THIS.
10:41:09AM RATHER A REDUCTION IN TAXES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE OFFERING TO
10:41:13AM RENT.
10:41:14AM WHETHER THAT -- OUR DIFFERENT INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE
10:41:18AM TO BRING MORE UNITS INTO THE RENTAL SPACE.
10:41:21AM MAYBE THAT IS ADDITIONAL ZONING, A SMALL MULTIFAMILY TRIPLEX
10:41:27AM POSSIBLE.
10:41:27AM WE HAVE INVESTORS LINED UP THAT WILL GLADABLY OFFER THOSE
10:41:31AM UNITS.
10:41:31AM THEY ARE GENERALLY LOW-INCOME UNITS BECAUSE OF THE SIZE AND
10:41:34AM NECESSITY OF THEM.
10:41:35AM THERE ARE MULTIPLE OTHER WAYS THIS CAN BE ADDRESSED.
10:41:38AM TRULY BELIEVE THAT RENT CONTROL IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
10:41:40AM IT IS A CRISIS OUT THERE, BUT LET'S DEFINE WHAT THAT IS SO
10:41:44AM WE CAN BETTER DEFINE HOW TO FIX IT.
10:41:46AM THANK YOU.
10:41:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:41:47AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:41:53AM MY NAME IS HARRISON LUNDY.
10:41:55AM I LIVE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF TAMPA SO NOT EXACTLY A RESIDENT, BUT
10:41:59AM I AM REPRESENTING THE TAMPA DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA
10:42:03AM AS WELL AS FLORIDA FOR CHANGE.
10:42:04AM I WAS HERE LAST WEEK TO COMMENT ON THE TPD RAISE AND THE
10:42:08AM HOUSING CRISIS.
10:42:08AM I'M HERE THIS WEEK TO STRESS THOSE THINGS.
10:42:11AM AS YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MANY OF US HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR
10:42:14AM THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
10:42:15AM I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, ESPECIALLY TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE,
10:42:18AM THAT THE DECISION OF LAST WEEK TO DECLARE A HOUSING STATE OF
10:42:21AM EMERGENCY WAS NOT MADE BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL WAS FEELING
10:42:24AM NICE.
10:42:24AM IT WAS MADE BECAUSE OF COMMUNITY PRESSURE.
10:42:27AM AND SINCE NOBODY ON THE COUNCIL COMES TO OUR ACTIONS, I DO
10:42:31AM CHECK SOMETIMES AND ASK IF ANY CITY COUNCILMEMBERS ARE
10:42:34AM THERE.
10:42:34AM NOBODY WAS THERE.
10:42:35AM WE HAD TO BRING THE ACTION TO THEM.
10:42:37AM SO I STAND PROUDLY WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN DOING
10:42:39AM THIS WORK FOR MONTHS AND YEARS ON END.
10:42:41AM AND SO WITH THAT SAID, I AM STILL A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED
10:42:46AM BECAUSE MILLIONS MORE IS GOING TOWARD TPD AS OPPOSED TO
10:42:50AM FURTHER ADDRESSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:42:53AM I GUESS IT IS SOMETHING TO DECLARE A STATEMENT OF EMERGENCY,
10:42:55AM BUT WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, IS THAT REALLY ALL WE CAN DO.
10:42:58AM SAYS THERE AN ISSUE, THROW OUR HANDS UP AND THROW $15
10:43:02AM MILLION.
10:43:02AM LIKE PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT IS A SLAP IN THE FACE.
10:43:05AM BECAUSE THIS FISCAL PLAN MAY LOOK GOOD FOR SOME PEOPLE AND
10:43:08AM US IN THE ORGANIZING SPACE KNOW THAT WE ARE CAPABLE OF MORE
10:43:11AM BECAUSE WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING.
10:43:13AM HOUSELESS PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING.
10:43:15AM FOLKS DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO WORRY ABOUT THE INTRICACIES OF
10:43:19AM A BUDGET WHEN THEY ARE WORRIED THAT THEIR LANDLORD CAN KICK
10:43:22AM THEM OUT AT ANY MOMENT.
10:43:23AM WHEN IT COMES TO THE QUALITY OF HOUSING LET'S REMEMBER WHERE
10:43:26AM TAMPA IS GEOGRAPHICALLY.
10:43:27AM IT IS TIME FOR UNION JOBS THAT TRANSFER MORE OF OUR ENERGY
10:43:32AM FROM ELECTRIC TO SOLAR.
10:43:33AM I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THE FACT THAT TO CREATE MORE
10:43:36AM PUBLIC AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE NEED TO START GIVING TECO THE
10:43:40AM BOOT.
10:43:40AM WE THINK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO KEEP OUR
10:43:45AM COMMUNITIES SAFE, BETTER THAN APPEAR COMMUNITY HOUSING
10:43:47AM PROGRAM.
10:43:47AM AND THAT THING IS I DON'T KNOW.
10:43:50AM AND LIKE I SAID LAST WEEK, WE DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE BEFORE
10:43:53AM ME THAT TPD WOULD SUPPORT OR COOPERATE WITH AFFORDABLE
10:43:57AM HOUSING.
10:43:57AM THAT IS WHY WE NEED TO BE PUSHING FOR A NONFAITH-BASED
10:44:00AM UNCONDITIONAL COMMUNITY HOUSING PROGRAM MUCH LIKE WHAT IS
10:44:03AM BEING DONE IN TEXAS RIGHT NOW IN CERTAIN CITIES.
10:44:05AM MONEY IS GOING TOWARD HOUSING SO I GUESS LET'S NOT DISCOUNT
10:44:09AM THAT.
10:44:09AM BUT AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE MAKING THE
10:44:12AM ISSUES LOOK PRETTY OPPOSED TO MAKING THEM GONE.
10:44:15AM ADDITIONALLY I KNOW MYSELF AND OTHER FOLKS AT DSA IS
10:44:20AM ENCOURAGING TO YOU LOOK INTO CREATING MORE ORDINANCES AROUND
10:44:23AM ABORTION ACCESS.
10:44:24AM I KNOW MYSELF WOULD LIKE TO PUSH FOR A RE-CREATION OF THE
10:44:28AM GRACE ACT LIKE HAS BEEN DONE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.
10:44:30AM IN ADDITION TO HOUSING, COMMUNITY POLICING AND MORE,
10:44:33AM ABORTION ACCESS REMAINS UNCLEAR IN CURRENT TAMPA POLITICS
10:44:37AM BASED ON PEOPLE WE TALK TO, AGAIN, ON THE GROUND.
10:44:39AM WE HAVE RESEARCHED IN OTHER CITIES BEFORE AND SO IT IS TIME
10:44:42AM TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF ABORTION BECAUSE -- REMEMBER WHAT
10:44:46AM STATES WE LIVE IN.
10:44:47AM REMEMBER THE LEADERSHIP OF THE STATE.
10:44:48AM AND SO THIS LEADS ME INTO MY LAST MESSAGE IS THAT, YOU KNOW,
10:44:52AM AGAIN, 2023 IS AN ELECTION YEAR.
10:44:54AM AND I KNOW CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO PUSH THAT THAT IS NOT A BIG
10:44:57AM DEAL.
10:44:58AM IT MOST CERTAINLY IS.
10:44:59AM THANK YOU.
10:44:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:45:00AM >> HELLO, MY NAME IS ANDREW DOUGAL, AND I'M HERE AS A
10:45:15AM RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE
10:45:19AM RENT CONTROL ORDINANCE.
10:45:20AM I LIVED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA SINCE THE MID-1980s.
10:45:24AM I LOVE OUR CITY.
10:45:25AM I AM A REALTOR AND ALSO A SMALL PRIVATE LANDLORD IN THE
10:45:29AM CITY.
10:45:29AM NOW REALTORS, WE DON'T HAVE PENSION PLANS.
10:45:31AM WE DON'T HAVE 401(K)s.
10:45:34AM WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL THE REALTOR RETIREMENT PLAN.
10:45:36AM YOU HAVE A GOOD YEAR IN REAL ESTATE AND YOU PUT A DOWN.
10:45:40AM PAYMENT ON A RENTAL PROPERTY, AND WE HOPE THAT OVER THE
10:45:43AM YEARS AS WE GET TOWARD RETIREMENTS THAT THOSE RENTAL
10:45:49AM PROPERTIES WE PURCHASE WILL GENERATE ENOUGH INCOME TO
10:45:51AM ACTUALLY GET TO RETIRE.
10:45:53AM NOW RECENTLY I HAVE BEEN HEARING A LOT OF NEGATIVE STORY
10:45:57AM ABOUT LANDLORDS AND I WANT TO TRY TO CORRECT THAT
10:46:01AM PERCEPTION.
10:46:01AM I MET THOUSANDS OF PRIVATE LANDLORDS OVER THE YEARS.
10:46:05AM AND MOST OF THEM ARE VERY COMPASSIONATE AND CARING ABOUT
10:46:11AM THEIR TENANTS.
10:46:12AM I CAN COUNT ON THE FINGERS OF ONE HAND THE BAD LANDLORDS I
10:46:16AM HAVE MET.
10:46:16AM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
10:46:21AM >> IF -- IF MY TENANT GETS HOME TONIGHT -- THIS EVENING AND
10:46:26AM THEIR HOME IS 100 DEGREES, I AM GOING TO TAKE THAT CALL.
10:46:30AM AND MY NEXT CALL WILL BE TO TRY TO FIND AN AC COMPANY THAT
10:46:35AM CAN GET OUT THERE AND GET THAT AC FIXED TONIGHT SO THEY CAN
10:46:38AM HAVE A COOL HOUSE AND CAN SLEEP.
10:46:40AM AND I WILL TAKE THAT CALL FOR ANY URGENT MAINTENANCE AT 6
10:46:44AM P.M. OR 10 P.M. OR 2 A.M. ANY DAY OF THE WEEK OR THE
10:46:49AM WEEKEND.
10:46:49AM I OWN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT I RENT FOR
10:46:57AM $875 A MONTH.
10:46:58AM IF YOU KNOW SOUTH TAMPA, YOU KNOW THAT IS A VERY LOW RENT.
10:47:02AM MY TENANTS ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
10:47:04AM THEY HAVE RENTED FROM ME FOR 19 YEARS AND I KNOW THAT IS ALL
10:47:08AM THEY CAN AFFORD.
10:47:08AM EVENTUALLY WHEN THEY DECIDE TO LEAVE, I WILL BE ABLE TO
10:47:11AM RAISE THE RENT AND STOP LOSING MONEY.
10:47:13AM UNLESS TAMPA IMPLEMENTS RENT CONTROL.
10:47:18AM THE FUTURE IS UNCERTAIN.
10:47:21AM AND LANDLORDS LIKE ME WORRY ABOUT OUR FUTURE COSTS IF WE ARE
10:47:27AM CONSTRAINED BY RENT CONTROL.
10:47:28AM AND BECAUSE OF THAT UNCERTAINTY AND TAMPA'S HOT REAL ESTATE
10:47:34AM MARKET, MANY SMALL, PRIVATE LANDLORDS MAY CHOOSE TO SELL.
10:47:39AM THAT IS MY CONCERN WITH RENT CONTROL.
10:47:41AM THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF SMALL LANDLORDS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:47:44AM IF THEY CHOOSE TO SELL, THAT IS GOING TO BE THOUSANDS OF
10:47:48AM RENTAL UNITS OUT OF THE RENTAL INVENTORY.
10:47:51AM THAT WILL HELP -- HURT THE VERY PEOPLE THAT WE ARE TRYING T
10:47:54AM HELP.
10:47:54AM THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE AND RENT IN OUR CITY.
10:47:59AM PLEASE DON'T IMPLEMENT RENT CONTROL INSTEAD HAVE RENTAL
10:48:06AM ASSISTANCE TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT.
10:48:08AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:48:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:48:10AM >> GOOD MORNING, JORDAN BROOKS.
10:48:15AM I AM A HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY RESIDENT.
10:48:16AM NOT TAMPA SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE
10:48:20AM COMMENT THIS MORNING ON THE RENT CONTROL MEASURE.
10:48:22AM I AM A SENIOR MARKET ANALYST FOR ALN APARTMENT DATA, A MULTI
10:48:27AM FAMILY DATA PROVIDER AND MARKET RESEARCH FIRM IN THE SPACE.
10:48:30AM I HAVE BEEN IN THE APARTMENT AGENCY FOR ALMOST TEN YEARS
10:48:33AM BOTH IN TEXAS AND NOW IN TAMPA.
10:48:34AM I HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW SOME AMAZING PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY
10:48:37AM DURING THAT TIME, NOT ONLY AT MEETINGS, CONFERENCES, TRADE
10:48:40AM SHOWS, BUT ALSO COMMUNITY SERVICE EVENTS AND CONTINUING
10:48:43AM EDUCATION COURSE WHERE IS PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE THEIR
10:48:46AM SKILL SETS TO IMPROVE THEIR SERVICES.
10:48:49AM IT WAS INSPIRING TO SEE HOW MANY OF THE INDUSTRY RESPONDS TO
10:48:52AM THE UNPRECEDENTED CHALLENGE OF THE PANDEMIC.
10:48:54AM CUSTOM PAYMENT PLANS, WAIVED LATE FEES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
10:48:58AM AID MAY BE AVAILABLE TO THEM AND HOW TO ACCESS AND OTHER
10:49:02AM MEASURES ARE WIDE SPREAD IN THE INDUSTRY.
10:49:03AM MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN WORLDS AWAY FROM THE COMMON
10:49:09AM CARICATURES.
10:49:10AM THE IMPORTANT PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE INDUSTRY ARE NEIGHBORS
10:49:12AM AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT TAKE PRIDE IN WORKING IN
10:49:14AM THE INDUSTRY DOING SOMETHING AS CRITICAL AS PROVIDING HOMES
10:49:18AM FOR PEOPLE.
10:49:19AM EXPENSIVE RENT GROWTH HAS BEEN FUELED BY MARKET FORCES,
10:49:25AM WELL-MEANING POLICY AND BROADER ECONOMIC INFLUENCES.
10:49:28AM WIDESPREAD INFLATION, FAST RISING LABOR COSTS AND SUPPLY
10:49:32AM CHAIN ISSUE HAVE LED TO DELAYS IN HIGHER COSTS ACROSS THE
10:49:35AM BOARD.
10:49:36AM JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING COSTS MORE NOW FOR EVERYONE, INCLUDING
10:49:39AM LANDLORDS.
10:49:40AM THIS RENT GROWTH ISSUE IS NOT UNIQUE TO TAMPA OR EVEN TO
10:49:43AM FLORIDA.
10:49:43AM THIS HAS BEEN A NATIONWIDE PROBLEM AND MARKETS WITH RENT
10:49:47AM CONTROL AND MARKETS WITHOUT RENT CONTROL.
10:49:48AM A MAJOR SUPPLY AND DEMAND IN BALANCE WAS CREATED LAST YEAR
10:49:52AM WHEN TWICE AS MANY UNITS WERE LEASED IN TAMPA THAN
10:49:55AM DELIVERED.
10:49:56AM THE MAIN DRIVER OF THE RENT GROWTH WE HAVE SEEN IN THE TIME
10:49:58AM SINCE.
10:49:59AM VACANCY HAS BEEN SLOWLY TRENDING UP FOR MONTHS TAKING
10:50:02AM PRESSURE OFF OF RENT GROWTH.
10:50:04AM 6500 NEW UNITS IN THE MARKET HAVE BEEN DELIVERED THROUGH
10:50:07AM JULY OF THIS YEAR ROAR MORE THAN ANY OTHER YEAR OF THE LAST
10:50:11AM FIVE AND WILL TAKE PRESSURE OFF OF RENT GROWTH.
10:50:13AM IN OTHER WORDS, THE MARKET HAS ALREADY STARTED TO REBALANCE
10:50:17AM ITSELF.
10:50:17AM THE RUSH TO JUST DO SOMETHING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM.
10:50:20AM IT IS IN EVERYONE'S INTEREST TO MAKE SURE THE PROIN GETS
10:50:23AM SOLVED.
10:50:24AM TALKING TO OPERATORS IN RENT CONTROL MARKETS, HOW FRUSTRATED
10:50:27AM THEY ARE TO KEEP THEIR OPERATIONS RUNNING AND MANY ARE
10:50:30AM LOOKING TO EXIT THE MARKET THAT REDUCES THE SUPPLY.
10:50:35AM TAMPA NEEDS TO NOT COPY A POLICY THAT WE KNOW WILL SEND THAT
10:50:39AM INVESTMENT AWAY.
10:50:39AM RENT CONTROL ULTIMATELY REDUCES HOUSING SUPPLY AND
10:50:42AM RENOVATION OF EXISTING STOCK.
10:50:44AM AND THE CRUX OF THE RENT ISSUE IS A SUPPLY ISSUE.
10:50:48AM THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE CAN BE
10:50:51AM LARGE.
10:50:51AM VOTE NO TO AVOID EMPT UNINTENDED BUT PREDICTABLE HARM.
10:50:57AM THANK YOU.
10:50:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:50:58AM MY NAME IS RON VETALERO.
10:51:04AM I AM WITH THE TAMPA CHAPTER OF DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF
10:51:08AM AMERICA.
10:51:08AM I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT IN PASSING OUR
10:51:12AM RESOLUTION OF ABORTION DECRIMINALIZATION DRAFTED IN
10:51:15AM COLLABORATION WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:51:17AM I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A BRIEF PERSONAL STORY PART OF A
10:51:21AM LARGER CONCERN.
10:51:22AM A LITTLE LESS THAN NINE YEARS AUTO AGO MY GIRLFRIEND AT THE
10:51:26AM TIME FOUND OUT I HAD A RELAPSE OF DRUG AND ALCOHOL
10:51:29AM ADDICTION.
10:51:30AM I WAS AN IV OPEN YESTERDAY ABUSER STRUGGLING TO STAY CLEAN.
10:51:35AM I DECIDED TO STOP HIDING THIS AND LET HER KNOW TO HAVE AN
10:51:38AM INFORMED DECISION ABOUT HER PRESS.
10:51:40AM WHILE WE WERE VERY MUCH IN LOVE, SHE DECIDED SHE DID NOT
10:51:43AM WANT TO HAVE A BABY OF SOMEONE WHO WILL LIKELY DIE OF A DRUG
10:51:47AM OVERDOSE AMONG OTHER THINGS.
10:51:49AM SHE TERMINATED HER PRESS MEDICINALLY.
10:51:53AM DEAD SIDED TO STAY WITH ME DESPITE MY LIES AND DECEIT AND
10:51:58AM HELP MY PATH OF RECOVERY.
10:51:59AM SHE WAS STARTING HER CAREER AS A TEACHER AND RETURNED THE
10:52:04AM BOOKS ON BABIES AND REPLACED THEM WITH BOOKS ON RECOVERY.
10:52:07AM SHE ORDERED ME INTO A 12-STEP PROGRAM WHERE I WAS ABLE TO
10:52:11AM GET CLEAN, STAY CLEAN, WORK THE PROGRAM WITH IS A SPONSOR
10:52:13AM AND A HIGHER POWER OF MY UNDERSTANDING.
10:52:16AM SHE WAS ABLE TO MAKE A CHOICE NOT TO LIVE A LIFE PLAGUED BY
10:52:20AM THE HORRORS OF BEING SHACKLED TO A LOVED ONE LIVING WITH
10:52:23AM ADDICTION.
10:52:24AM SHE HAS GONE ON TO TOUCH MANY LIVES IN SERIOUS WAYS AS AN
10:52:28AM AWARD-WINNING SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHER.
10:52:31AM I WILL BE NINE YEARS CLEAN AND SOBER IN DECEMBER.
10:52:33AM [APPLAUSE]
10:52:35AM THANK YOU.
10:52:35AM TOGETHER WE HAVE TWO BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTERS AND A LIFE I NEVER
10:52:43AM DREAMED OF.
10:52:43AM THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE ORPHANED BY ADDICTION.
10:52:46AM MY NIECE IS ONE OF THEM.
10:52:47AM I LOST MY BROTHER IN FEBRUARY.
10:52:49AM THERE ARE SO MANY BURDENS BEING CARRIED BY GRANDPARENTS AND
10:52:53AM SO MANY CHILDREN SLIPPING THROUGH THE CRACKS ALL AROUND US.
10:52:56AM SAFETY NETS ARE BEING PULLED OUT FROM UNDER US AND MORE
10:53:00AM MECHANISMS OF BRUTALITY, OPPRESSION AND EXPLOITATION.
10:53:04AM SUPPORTS FOR THE MILLIONS LIKE MY BROTHER AND I ARE FEW AND
10:53:08AM INADEQUATE.
10:53:09AM I BELIEVE THINGS HAPPEN FOR A REASON.
10:53:12AM I HAVE A HIGHER POWER.
10:53:14AM I BELIEVE THIS POWER WANTED US TO WAIT.
10:53:17AM AND I BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THAT CHOICE.
10:53:19AM AND I STAND HERE ALSOS IN SOLIDARITY WITH THOSE SEEKING RENT
10:53:23AM CONTROL.
10:53:24AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:53:25AM [APPLAUSE]
10:53:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONGRATULATIONS.
10:53:28AM SIR.
10:53:29AM SIR, BILL W. CAME UP WITH A GREAT PROGRAM, DIDN'T HE.
10:53:35AM >> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
10:53:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:53:39AM MY NAME IS GETULO GONZALEZ.
10:53:43AM AND I AM A RESIDENT OF THE CITY.
10:53:47AM I WANTED TO MAKE -- I WANT TO MAKE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT
10:53:53AM -- THAT GOVERNOR DeSANTIS IS A FASCIST COWARD.
10:53:56AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FASCISTS AREN'T WELCOME.
10:53:59AM BUT TO IT THE -- TO THE ISSUES OF THE HOUR.
10:54:03AM HOUSING IS A FUNDSMENTAL HUMAN RIGHT.
10:54:07AM THAT IS ACCORDING TO THE UN HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL.
10:54:11AM THAT IS NOT ACCORDING TO ME.
10:54:13AM I WANT TO BEGIN BY COMMENDING CITY COUNCIL OF HAVING THE
10:54:18AM FORESIGHT AND COURAGE TO PUTS THE DECLARATION OF THE HOUSING
10:54:21AM STATE OF EMERGENCY ON THE BALLOT.
10:54:23AM THAT WAS AWESOME; HOWEVER, THE WORK IS FAR FROM DONE.
10:54:26AM IT IS VITAL THAT THE LANGUAGE REFLECTED IN THE ORDINANCE
10:54:30AM MEETS THE UNPRECEDENTED NEEDS OF THE MOMENT.
10:54:32AM 11 OF 20 CITIES WITH THE HIGHEST RATE OF RENT INCREASES IN
10:54:38AM THE NATION ARE IN FLORIDA.
10:54:39AM THANKS, GOVERNOR DeSANTIS.
10:54:41AM 11, THE TAMPA, CLEARWATER, ST. PETERSBURG AREA RANK FIFTH IN
10:54:47AM THE NATION.
10:54:48AM A REPORT IN MAY SAID THAT HOUSING AFFORDABLEABILITY IN TAMPA
10:54:54AM HAS DECREASED BY 36.1%.
10:54:56AM THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE CASE.
10:54:58AM WITH RENT STABILIZATION MEASURES IN PLACE, THE HOUSIN
10:55:02AM MARKET WILL COOL WHILE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS BUILT.
10:55:05AM TO MEET THE CITY'S NEEDS.
10:55:07AM BUT WE HAVE TO BE CREATIVE IN OUR SEARCH FOR SOLUTIONS.
10:55:10AM CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE INVESTED HEAVILY IN EMERGENCY
10:55:13AM RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS.
10:55:15AM THE CITY OF CHICAGO HAS INVESTED $8 MILLION TOWARD THEIR
10:55:20AM EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM ALONE.
10:55:22AM THAT IS EXCLUDING ANY OTHER HOUSING PROGRAMS.
10:55:25AM OKAY.
10:55:30AM THEY HAVE ALREADY TAKEN THE BOLD STANCE TO SEAL ANY EVICTION
10:55:35AM RECORDS PEOPLE WHO WERE EVICTED DURING THIS PERIOD.
10:55:39AM I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WORTH LOOKING INTO.
10:55:41AM ESPECIALLY SINCE PEOPLE ARE BEING DISPLACED DURING THESE
10:55:46AM TUMULTUOUS TIMES.
10:55:47AM CLEVELAND AND PHILADELPHIA HAVE STEPPED UP WITH THE
10:55:50AM IMPLEMENTATION OF A TENANT-LAND HAD LORD REMEDIATION
10:55:55AM ORDINANCE.
10:55:55AM BEFORE SOMEONE IS EVICT A 30-DAY REMEDIATION BETWEEN THE
10:55:59AM LANDLORD AND THE TENANT.
10:56:01AM AN AWESOME DIVERSIONARY PROGRAM.
10:56:05AM THEY ALSO PARTNERED WITH -- THEY HAVE ALSO IMPLEMENTED --
10:56:09AM CITIES ACROSS THE NATION RIGHT TO LEGAL COUNSEL AND
10:56:14AM PARTNERSHIP WITH NGOs.
10:56:16AM THE AFOREMENTIONED PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FUNCTION THE
10:56:19AM WAY THEY DO THROUGH THE UNEQUIVOCAL SUPPORT OF THE
10:56:23AM BIDEN-HARRIS ADMINISTRATION.
10:56:24AM SO YOU ARE NOT ALONE, ALL RIGHT.
10:56:26AM TIME FOR TAMPA AND THE MAYOR TO STEP UP FOR THE COUNCIL AND
10:56:29AM THE CONTINUED STEPPING UP, $5.5 MILLION FOR HOUSING
10:56:34AM AFFORDABILITY ISN'T ENOUGH.
10:56:35AM THANK YOU.
10:56:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:56:37AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:56:38AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:56:40AM >> HEY, HOW ARE YOU DOING, DAVID JONES.
10:56:44AM AND I AM A RESIDENT OF -- MY NAME IS DAVID JONES, AND I AM A
10:56:48AM RESIDENT OF NORTH TAMPA.
10:56:49AM I CAME TO SPEAK A BIT OF THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD MEETING
10:56:52AM THAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK WHERE THEY PUT FORTH A MOTION TO
10:56:55AM RECOMMEND THAT YOU ALL PUT FORTH A MOTION TO GIVE THEM THE
10:56:58AM RIGHT TO SUBPOENA AND PUT THAT ON THE UPCOMING BALLOT.
10:57:01AM I THINK THAT IS GOOD.
10:57:02AM THAT BOARD IS BUILT TO GIVE REAL POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY IN
10:57:06AM OUR COMMUNITY.
10:57:06AM AND IF THAT BOARD IS MEANT TO REVIEW WHAT THE POLICE IS
10:57:09AM DOING, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THE FULL ABILITY TO DO
10:57:12AM SO, ESPECIALLY AS WE ARE SEEING THIS 18% INCREASE IN THE --
10:57:17AM THESE OFFICERS' WAEJS AND THE UPCOMING COP BUDGET FOR THE
10:57:21AM NEXT YEAR BEING 40 % OF THE GENERAL FUND AT $200 MILLION.
10:57:25AM ESPECIALLY WHEN, YOU KNOW, FOLKS HAVE COME IN -- IN THESE
10:57:28AM MEETINGS, WHAT, THE LAST SIX MONTHS SAYING THAT THE HOUSING
10:57:31AM -- THE HOUSING CRISIS IS THE NUMBER ONE THING.
10:57:33AM YOU WERE RIGHT THE HOUSING CRISIS IS THE NUMBER ONE THING.
10:57:38AM AND IN BUDGET PUT $5.5 MILLION AND ENDS UP BEING, WHAT, 1%
10:57:44AM OF THAT GENERAL FUND.
10:57:45AM NOT ENOUGH TO FIX THESE ISSUES.
10:57:48AM ALL OF THESE RESIDENTS COMING UP TO SPEAK AREN'T GOING TO BE
10:57:52AM RESIDENTS IN A YEAR IF THE HOUSING CRISIS IS NOT FIXED.
10:57:54AM YOU KNOW, YEAH, SO -- EXCUSE ME.
10:57:58AM TALKING A BIT ABOUT THE MONEY.
10:58:00AM THERE IS THAT 40% GOING TO COPS.
10:58:03AM APPROXIMATE $20,000 RAISE THAT ALL OF YOU ARE GETTING WITH
10:58:08AM THOSE SALARIES GOING FROM AROUND $50 K TO AROUND $70 K I
10:58:14AM THINK THEY SAID.
10:58:15AM AGAIN WE ARE GETTING BEANS FROM THE CITY.
10:58:17AM THE WORKING PEOPLE OF THE CITY ARE GETTING BEANS.
10:58:22AM THAT IS NOT GOING TO HELP US OUT.
10:58:23AM SOMEBODY ELSE WILL SPEAK IN A SECOND BUT OUR GROUP IS
10:58:26AM PUTTING FORWARD AN ORDINANCE OF THE HOUSING.
10:58:31AM IF IT HAVEN'T BEEN, IT WILL BE RIGHT NOW.
10:58:33AM JUST TO PUT MORE MONEY FOR THAT.
10:58:36AM WHEN YOU WROTE THAT RESOLUTION A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO ADDING
10:58:39AM $4 MILLION TO -- TO THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT ONLY
10:58:43AM ENDED UP HELPING, WHAT, 500 PEOPLE OVERALL.
10:58:46AM WHEN YOU ADDED THAT 500 -- WHEN YOU GOT THAT TO A $5 MILLION.
10:58:53AM AND WE SEE THAT HAVEN'T HAD THE IMPACT IT NEEDS TO REALLY
10:58:57AM FIX THE PROBLEM AND ATTACK THE HEART OF THIS PROBLEM.
10:59:00AM SO, YEAH, JUST ASKING THAT IN THIS BUDGET UPDATE THAT YOU
10:59:04AM CONTINUE TO DEMAND MORE MONEY FOR MORE HOUSING.
10:59:07AM YEAH.
10:59:07AM THANK YOU.
10:59:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:59:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SIR, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT LAST WEEK
10:59:13AM I ACTUALLY REQUESTED LEGAL TO PREPARE AND PRESENT A DRAFT
10:59:17AM ORDINANCE TO PUT THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD SUBPOENA POWER AND
10:59:21AM INDEPENDENT ON THE BALLOT.
10:59:22AM I ASKED FOR THAT.
10:59:23AM IT IS COMING UP AT THE WORKSHOP SEPTEMBER 2 AT 9 A.M.
10:59:27AM I JUST WANT TO LET'S YOU KNOW.
10:59:29AM >> COOL.
10:59:30AM THANK YOU.
10:59:30AM HELLO, JONAH HAVA.
10:59:41AM I AM A RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
10:59:42AM AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY ACTION
10:59:45AM COMMITTEE.
10:59:45AM I'M HERE TODAY TO SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT THE RENT CONTROL
10:59:49AM MEASURE THAT IS GOING TO BE PUTS ON THE BALLOT AND THE
10:59:52AM CREATION OF A TENANTS RIGHTS ADVOCACY OFFICE.
10:59:56AM COUNCILMEMBERS, I WILL SAYS IT ABOUT TIME.
10:59:59AM AND I EDITED THE SPEECH AS WE WERE WAITING IN LINE JUST TO
11:00:04AM COUNTER SOME OF THESE LOVELY LANDLORD WHININGS AND LIES.
11:00:09AM THE SAME SORT OF LIES WERE DEPLOYED AGAINST THE THINGS LIKE
11:00:13AM THE MINIMUM WAGE, RIGHTS.
11:00:15AM IT WAS ARGUED THAT IF YOU FORCE EMPLOYERS TO PAY A LIVING
11:00:20AM WAGE, JOBS WILL DISAPPEAR, RIGHT.
11:00:22AM THAT HAVEN'T HAPPENED.
11:00:23AM HOUSE WOOING SIMPLY JUST DISAPPEAR IN THE ETHER IF YOU
11:00:31AM APPROVE THIS MEASURE.
11:00:32AM ASIDE, WHAT IS GOOD FOR HOUSING SUPPLY IF IT IS UNAFFORDABLE
11:00:36AM AND OUT OF REACH FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF WORKING FORCE,
11:00:40AM RIGHT.
11:00:40AM THE LANDLORDS AND SLUMLORDS HERE.
11:00:42AM WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THEM IS SIMPLY WHAT HAS BEEN SAID TO SO
11:00:47AM MANY WORKING-CLASS, POOR, HOUSELESS FOLKS.
11:00:49AM WHY DON'T YOU GET A REAL JOB, RIGHT.
11:00:51AM IF YOU ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT COSTS.
11:00:58AM AND THE PEOPLE HERE WATCHING, TOOK TIME EACH WEEK TO COME
11:01:02AM OUT, I WOULD SAY THAT THE REASON THIS HAPPENED, ANY OF THIS
11:01:05AM HAPPENED, IS BECAUSE OF YOU.
11:01:07AM YOU ALL HAVE PUT PRESSURE ON THEM TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
11:01:14AM THIS WAS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN ON ITS OWN.
11:01:17AM WHEN PEOPLE COME OUT AND THEY CAN WIN GREAT THINGS.
11:01:20AM THE FIRST CITY IN THE SOUTH TO ENACT ANY KIND OF RENT
11:01:25AM CONTROL.
11:01:25AM THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE CITY OF CHAMPIONS, RIGHTS.
11:01:27AM WOULDN'T THAT BE A GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT TO ADD TO OUR
11:01:30AM COLLECTION?
11:01:31AM AND ON A TENANTS RIGHTS AND ADVOCACY OFFICE, WE CERTAINLY US
11:01:35AM AT TO FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF CITIES LIKE MIAMI, WHO HAVE
11:01:39AM LEVELED THE PLAYING FIELD BETWEEN TENANTS AND LANDLORDS,
11:01:42AM RIGHT.
11:01:42AM BY DEFAULT, LANDLORDS HAVE MORE RESOURCES, MORE LEGAL
11:01:46AM LEVERAGE, AND FAVOR IN THE COURT SYSTEM.
11:01:48AM TO GET THEIR WAY.
11:01:50AM AND WE HAVE SEEN WHAT LANDLORDS ARE CAPABLE OF IN THIS CITY
11:01:54AM IN PLACES LIKE SILVER OAKS, RIGHTS.
11:01:57AM ROTSING APARTMENTS, BROKEN APPLIANCES AND INHUMANE
11:02:03AM CONDITIONS NOT FIT FOR ANIMALS, MUCH LESS PEOPLE.
11:02:05AM CAN YOU AND THE COUNCIL HONESTLY SAY GIVEN THAT THE TENANTS
11:02:10AM DON'T NEED PROTECTIONS IN THESE VICIOUS, GREEDY SLUMLORDS.
11:02:14AM WE MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE LEGAL REPRESENTATION WHEN THEY ARE
11:02:17AM FACING CRIMINAL CHARGES.
11:02:18AM WHY NOT WHEN FACING SIMILARLY SERIOUS ISSUE OF POTENTIAL
11:02:22AM HOMELESSNESS.
11:02:23AM THANK YOU.
11:02:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:02:24AM >> EXCELLENT, MY MAN.
11:02:27AM EXCELLENT.
11:02:28AM >> HELLO, MY NAME IS NATE, AND I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF
11:02:34AM THE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY ACTION COMMITTEE.
11:02:37AM FIRST, I WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE RENT CONTROL MEASURE
11:02:42AM THAT WILL BE ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER.
11:02:45AM RENT CONTROL IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMING OUT
11:02:48AM HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK DEMANDING -- TELLING YOU ALL THAT WE
11:02:55AM NEED THIS.
11:02:55AM THIS WOULDN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT ANYBODY COMING OUT HERE EVERY
11:02:58AM WEEK TAKING TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY TO PUSH FOR THIS MEASURE
11:03:01AM AND PUT THAT MEASURE.
11:03:02AM TO ALL THE POINTS THAT SOME OF THE LANDLORDS HAVE MADE HERE
11:03:08AM TODAY.
11:03:10AM WE ARE SEEING THAT THERE ARE AVAILABLE UNITS HERE IN TAMPA.
11:03:13AM THERE ARE PLENTY.
11:03:16AM BUT WHAT WE NEED IS MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS HERE IN
11:03:19AM TAMPA WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER MIDTOWN IN WEST TAMPA.
11:03:22AM WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER CHANNELSIDES.
11:03:24AM WE DON'T NEED TO KEEP TEARING DOWN NEIGHBORHOODS IN TEMPLE
11:03:29AM TERRACE AND EAST TAMPA TO BUILD THESE LUXURY APARTMENTS.
11:03:32AM RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD IS FROM MY HOUSE THEY ARE BUILDING A
11:03:35AM WHOLE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX IN TOWN&COUNTRY, AND THIS LUXURY
11:03:40AM APARTMENT GOING FOR 3.5K FOR A TWO BEDROOM, THAT IS
11:03:46AM RIDICULOUS.
11:03:47AM THAT IS UNHEARD OF.
11:03:48AM THAT IS NOT WHAT WE NEED MORE OF IN TAMPA.
11:03:51AM I HEAR PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO KEEP PEOPLE IN
11:03:54AM TAMPA.
11:03:54AM WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO WORK.
11:03:57AM AND BUILDING MORE OF THESE RIDICULOUSLY.EXPENSIVE HOUSING,
11:04:03AM HOUSING COMPLEXES AND CONDOS WILL NOT KEEP PEOPLE IN TAMPA.
11:04:06AM PEOPLE ARE BEING PUSHED OUT OF THE CITY.
11:04:08AM IF WE WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE HERE AND WORKING, WE NEED TO GIVE
11:04:12AM THEM A PLACE TO LIVE, THAT THEY CAN AFFORD.
11:04:14AM AND SO TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY ACTION COMMITTEE, WE DRAFTED UP
11:04:19AM THAT ORDINANCE.
11:04:20AM DAVID MENTIONED IT.
11:04:22AM WE ARE PROPOSING TO INCREASE THAT $5 MILLION, WHICH IS
11:04:26AM NOTHING.
11:04:26AM THAT IS JUST THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.
11:04:29AM AND THAT IS EVEN LESS, BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE THAT COVID
11:04:32AM FUNDING.
11:04:33AM THAT ERAP FUNDING.
11:04:36AM IT IS GOING DOWN INSTEAD OF GIVING US MORE.
11:04:39AM AND THAT IS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME AS THE 18% INCREASE
11:04:43AM TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
11:04:44AM A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT HAS TIME AND TIME AGAIN SHOWN US
11:04:50AM THAT THEY ARE RACIST WITH NO MA'AM PEEK IN MUKEY, JONAS
11:04:57AM JOSEPH.
11:04:57AM THEY ARE BEING INVESTIGATED BY THE DOJ OVER THE EVICTION
11:05:01AM PROGRAM, OVER BIKING WHILE BLACK.
11:05:03AM I MEAN, THEY ARE NOT WHERE THE MONEY NEEDS TO BE GOING.
11:05:06AM WE ARE PROPOSING $40 MILLION FOR HOUSING INSTEAD OF THAT $5
11:05:10AM MILLION SLAP IN THE FACE.
11:05:11AM THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
11:05:12AM [APPLAUSE]
11:05:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:05:15AM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
11:05:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:05:19AM >> HI, MY NAME IS SIMON ROWE.
11:05:25AM I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF THE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY ACTION
11:05:29AM COMMITTEE.
11:05:29AM I, LIKE MANY PEOPLE HERE, HAS BEEN COMING OUT FOR SEVERAL
11:05:33AM MONTHS NOW TO ASK THAT CITY COUNCIL ACKNOWLEDGE THIS HOUSING
11:05:36AM STATE OF EMERGENCY.
11:05:37AM AND I AM VERY GLAD TO SEE THERE IS ACTUAL ACTION BEING PUT
11:05:41AM BEHIND THE WORDS.
11:05:42AM THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO SOMETHING TO DECLARE A
11:05:45AM HOUSING STATE OF EMERGENCY AS THE FIRST STEP TOWARD A RENT
11:05:48AM CONTROL ORDINANCE.
11:05:49AM BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMING UP SHARING THEIR EXPERIENCES
11:05:52AM OF WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW, THAT THE HOUSING EMERGENCY IS HERE.
11:05:55AM WE ARE SEEING ASTRONOMICAL RENTS INCREASES LIKE HIGHEST CITY
11:06:01AM RECORDS FOR THE COUNTRIES AS A WHOLE.
11:06:03AM WE ARE SEEING HIGHER RATES OF EVICTIONS.
11:06:07AM AND IT IS HAPPENING ALL OVER TAMPA WE HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE
11:06:09AM IN TIMBER FALLS, FROM SILVER OAKS, FROM ROBLES PARK VILLAGE.
11:06:14AM PEOPLE PUSHED OUT AND EVICTED AND LOSING EVERYTHING.
11:06:17AM THAT IS WHO WE NEED TO THINK OF RIGHT NOW.
11:06:19AM THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO COULD BE LOSING EVERYTHING.
11:06:22AM WE TALK -- I HEARD BEFORE ABOUT -- WE NEED TO HEAR BOTH
11:06:26AM SIDES OF THIS.
11:06:26AM ONE SIDE IS GOING TO LOSE EVERYTHING.
11:06:28AM THE OTHER SIDE IS GOING TO HAVE A BAD INVESTMENT.
11:06:35AM YOU LOOK AT IT EQUALLY, THAT IS WHAT IS GOING ON HERE.
11:06:38AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE TWO SIDES, I PICKED A SIDE.
11:06:41AM A SIDE OF A PEOPLE AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS.
11:06:44AM AT RISK OF LOSING WHAT SHOULD BE A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT.
11:06:47AM AND I THINK CITY COUNCIL SHOULD ACT MANAGE TO THAT TOO
11:06:51AM ESPECIALLY WHEN 44% OF TAMPA RENTS IS ARE EFFECTED BY IN
11:06:59AM CRISIS.
11:06:59AM WE NEED ACTUAL ACTION FOR INCREASING AND FUNDING FOR THIS
11:07:04AM BUDGET.
11:07:04AM WE NEED THE RENT CONTROL ORDINANCE.
11:07:06AM WE NEED A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE INFORM TAMPA AND PEOPLE
11:07:11AM HAVE LIVED HERE FOR DECADES WHO HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO FALL
11:07:14AM BACK ON.
11:07:14AM AND IF YOU DECIDE TO GO AGAINST THE RENT CONTROL ORDINANCE,
11:07:18AM IF YOU DECIDE TO FLIP-FLOP, THAT WILL LOOK REALLY BAD TO THE
11:07:21AM RESIDENTS OF TAMPA LIKE MONTHS AGO, LOOKING AT THE TENANTS
11:07:26AM BILL OF RIGHTS, MANY PEOPLE SUPPORTED THAT.
11:07:27AM AND WE SAW SOMETHING SIMILAR TO TODAY, WHERE LANDLORDS SPOKE
11:07:31AM OUT AGAINST IT.
11:07:32AM BUT GUESS WHAT, PEOPLE GOT REALLY, REALLY MAD WHEN THAT
11:07:36AM HAPPENED BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SEE ACTUAL CHANGES HAPPEN.
11:07:39AM POSITIVE CHANGES HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
11:07:42AM NOT JUST NEGATIVE ONES OF INCREASING RENT.
11:07:44AM SO I HOPE Y'ALL THINK OF THE COMMUNITY THAT COMES OUT HERE
11:07:50AM MONTH AFTER MONTH.
11:07:51AM I HOPE YOU TAKE THEIR NEEDS INTO ACCOUNT AND TAKE THEM
11:07:54AM SERIOUSLY.
11:07:55AM BECAUSE THIS ISN'T GOING AWAY.
11:08:00AM IT IS HAPPENING FOR FAR TOO LONG.
11:08:02AM I AM HAPPY TO SEE STEPS BEING MADE.
11:08:04AM KEEP ON GOING AND WE WILL REMEMBER THAT WHEN ELECTIONS COME
11:08:08AM UP.
11:08:08AM THANK YOU.
11:08:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:08:10AM >> HELLO.
11:08:14AM DANIEL DeANGELO, LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
11:08:18AM SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AT THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
11:08:20AM HONESTLY I AM REALLY, REALLY TIRED.
11:08:23AM I HOPE WE ARE CLOSE TO A FINISH -- NO FINISH LINE BECAUSE
11:08:26AM THE ACTUAL SOLUTION TO THE HOUSELESSNESS CRISIS IS HOUSES.
11:08:30AM I KNOW THAT IS REALLY BIZARRE.
11:08:31AM YOU GIVE PEOPLE A HOUSE AND NO LONGER HOUSELESSNESS.
11:08:34AM LIKE SOMEBODY HUNGRY, YOU GIVE THEM FOOD.
11:08:37AM THEY ARE NO LONGER HUNGRY.
11:08:38AM IT IS A SOLUTION.
11:08:39AM MAYBE INSTEAD OF $5 MILLION.
11:08:42AM YOU PUT, I DON'T KNOW, A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN THAT.
11:08:45AM THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, SCANDAL AFTER SCANDAL.
11:08:50AM 18% RAISE.
11:08:51AM YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE OF UNION CONTRACTS
11:08:54AM ARE NEGOTIATED.
11:08:54AM THEY CAN SELL EQUIPMENT.
11:08:57AM THEY DON'T NEED DRONES,K-9s, SELL THAT AND THEY DON'T NEED A
11:09:03AM RAISE.
11:09:03AM THE HIRING YOU ARE DOING.
11:09:04AM DIDN'T SOMEBODY GET THROWN OUTS OF BUSCH GARDENS FOR
11:09:08AM THROWING THEIR BADGE.
11:09:08AM WHAT IS GOING ON AT TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
11:09:10AM I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH SEEN THE SHOW "RENO 911," BUT THEY ARE
11:09:18AM MORE COMPETENT.
11:09:18AM I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU ARE GIVING THEM MORE MONEY.
11:09:20AM BUT NONETHELESS, YOU WILL DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
11:09:23AM A LOT OF INTEREST IN THAT OOBIOUSLY.
11:09:25AM WE NEED TO PUT $34 MILLION IN THE PROGRAM THAT WAS FIGURED
11:09:31AM FOR THE DEMAND.
11:09:31AM WE NEED RENTS TO GET PAID.
11:09:33AM AS FAR AS THE LANDLORDS, RENT STABLE LIEGS FOR 5% FOR ONE
11:09:37AM YEAR
11:09:37AM AFTER THEY JUST RAISED.0% THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
11:09:40AM IF THEY GO BROKE OVER THAT, DESERVE TO GO BROKE.
11:09:44AM COME ON.
11:09:45AM COME ON.
11:09:46AM I BETTER SEE UNANIMOUS.
11:09:48AM I BETTER SEE 6-1 SUPPORT -- I KNOW WHO THE ONE IS DEFINITELY
11:09:53AM -- I BETTER SEE 6-1 ON THAT TODAY.
11:09:55AM IF THEY ARE GOING TO GO BROKE AFTER RAISING 30% AND STILL
11:09:58AM GOING TO BE ABLE TO RAISE AT LEAST 5%.
11:10:02AM YIKES.
11:10:03AM THEY NEED TO GET INTO ANOTHER BUSINESS, BECAUSE.
11:10:06AM I AM NOT THE BEST WITH MONEY.
11:10:07AM BUT COME ON.
11:10:08AM I SUPPORT THE DECRIMINALIZATION OF ABORTION.
11:10:13AM ABORTION IS A HUMAN RIGHT.
11:10:14AM IT IS NEVER GOING TO GO AWAY.
11:10:16AM ONLY THING YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE AWAY IS SAFE
11:10:19AM ABORTION.
11:10:19AM YOU WILL NOT TAKE AWAY ABORTION.
11:10:21AM I HOPE TO SEE THAT PASS.
11:10:22AM THIS IS AN ALL DEMOCRATIC BOARD.
11:10:24AM IT WOULD BE VERY WEIRD IF IT DIDN'T.
11:10:27AM SOME OF YOU IN DINOS.
11:10:29AM I WON'T SAY ANY NAMES.
11:10:31AM WE -- YOU CAN FREEZE THE POLICE BUDGET, BY THE WAY.
11:10:34AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO RAISE IT.
11:10:35AM NO LAW SAYING YOU HAVE TO RAISE IT.
11:10:37AM AFTER ALL THE SCANDALS THEY HAD, THEY ARE UNDER DOJ
11:10:41AM INVESTIGATION FOR THROWING PEOPLE -- MAINLY BLACK PEOPLE --
11:10:44AM OUT OF THEIR HOUSES NOT OF EVEN CONVICTIONS BUT CHARGES SOME
11:10:48AM THAT WERE DROPPED IS WHAT I HEARD.
11:10:50AM THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A DEPARTMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE
11:10:52AM REWARDED WITH A MORE MONEY.
11:10:54AM YOU CAN FREEZE THAT BUDGET AND START COMING UP WITH OTHER.
11:10:57AM I CAN GIVE YOU SO MANY SOLUTIONS, CAHOOTS, NOT THE RESPONSE
11:11:02AM PROGRAM THAT YOU ALREADY IMPLEMENTED.
11:11:05AM CALL YOU UP EUGENE, OREGON.
11:11:07AM I ALREADY DONE THAT.
11:11:08AM CALL THEM AND GET THE DATA.
11:11:10AM DO NOT BE AFRAID OF THE GOVERNOR DeSANTIS, BECAUSE I MEAN --
11:11:14AM STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT.
11:11:15AM STAND UP FOR WHAT'S RIGHT AND DON'T BE AFRAID.
11:11:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:11:23AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:11:23AM MARK ROSEN.
11:11:25AM AND TAMPA HAS BEEN MY HOME FOR 43 YEARS.
11:11:28AM I HAVE BEEN IN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT FOR 45 YEARS AND I LOVE
11:11:31AM WHAT I DO BECAUSE I PROVIDE QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO
11:11:34AM THE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
11:11:37AM MY COMPANY HAS MANAGED 60,000 UNITS.
11:11:40AM WE CURRENTLY EMPLOY 100 PEOPLE ALL OF WHOM ARE ESSENTIAL
11:11:43AM WORKERS.
11:11:44AM MOST OF THE APARTMENTS WE MANAGED THE LAST 15 YEARS HAVE
11:11:47AM BEEN WORK FORCE, AFFORDSABLE, LOW INCOME AND SECTION 8.
11:11:51AM CURRENTLY VICE-CHAIR OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY
11:11:55AM BOARD WHERE I WORK WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES AND OTHERS LIKE ME
11:11:59AM CARE GREATLY ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:12:01AM MY COMPANY MANAGES TWO AFFORDABLE APARTMENT COMMUNITIES FOR
11:12:05AM CATHOLIC CHARITIES.
11:12:07AM WE DONATE 10% OF OUR MANAGEMENT FEE TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES
11:12:10AM AND I PERSONALLY DONATE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT TO FUND THEIR
11:12:14AM MANY PROGRAMS, HOUSING ASSISTANCE, FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR
11:12:17AM SECURITY, UTILITY FOR HOUSES, OF PAST-DUE RENTS, EVEN
11:12:23AM PROPERTIES THAT WE DON'T MANAGE, AND MUCH MORE.
11:12:25AM OUR EMPLOYEES HELP RESIDENTS WHO NEED ASSISTANCE.
11:12:28AM AND SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT ERAP AND LEGAL AID
11:12:31AM ORGANIZATIONS.
11:12:32AM OUR TEAMS DELIVER FLYERS TO RESIDENTS TO GET THEM TO ATTEND
11:12:35AM THESE PROGRAMS AND LEARN ABOUT RENTAL ASSISTANCE THAT IS
11:12:39AM AVAILABLE TO THEM.
11:12:39AM WE HAVE WORKED WITH RESIDENTS WHO HAVE FALL BEHIND ON THEIR
11:12:43AM RENTS RATHER THAN EVICT THEM THEM.
11:12:45AM WE PREFER TO KEEP RESIDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES IN THEIR
11:12:47AM HOMES BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THEY DEVELOP A SENSE OF
11:12:50AM COMMUNITY.
11:12:50AM IN RECENT YEARS, OUR CLIENTS HAVE PURCHASED APARTMENTS THAT
11:12:53AM WERE IN POOR CONDITION.
11:12:55AM AND WITH OUR ASSISTANCE TURNED THEM INTO QUALITY AFFORDABLE
11:12:59AM APARTMENTS.
11:12:59AM WE MANAGED APARTMENTS WITH A TERRIBLE HISTORY WITH CODE
11:13:01AM ENFORCEMENT AND RESTORED THEM SO CODE ENFORCEMENT PROBLEMS
11:13:05AM HAVE BECOME SUCCESS STORIES.
11:13:07AM HOUSING SUPPLY FAR EXCEEDED THE DEMAND FOR MANY YEARS.
11:13:11AM WE REDUCED RENTS AND TWO MONTHS' FREE RENT TO KEEP OUR
11:13:15AM APARTMENTS FULL.
11:13:16AM IN RECENT YEARS, DEMAND HAS INCREASED SUPPLY.
11:13:20AM AND POPULATION -- EVERYBODY LISTS THERE ARE AND ESPECIALLY
11:13:24AM TAMPA IN THE SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION OF NEW AFFORDABLE
11:13:28AM COMMUNITIES.
11:13:28AM RENTS HAVE INCREASED IN RECENT YEARS BECAUSE OF SIGNIFICANT
11:13:31AM INCREASES IN OPERATING COSTS, REAL ESTATE TAXES, INSURANCE,
11:13:36AM PAYROLL -- OUR MINIMUM WAGE IS $15 AT OUR TAMPA -- AND
11:13:41AM UTILITIES.
11:13:41AM MANY OF THE COMMUNITIES ARE 50 YEARS OLD.
11:13:43AM THE COST OF MAINTAINING AND UPGRADING THEM IS SIGNIFICANT.
11:13:47AM RENT INCREASED 24% IN 2021, THE INCREASE IS SLOW TO 16%
11:13:54AM THANKS YEAR AND PROJECTED TO BE 8% OR LESS BY THE END OF
11:13:57AM THIS YEAR.
11:13:58AM RENTS WILL CONTINUE TO DECLINE AS THE HOUSING SUPPLY GROWTH
11:14:01AM MEETS DEMAND.
11:14:01AM RENT CONTROL WILL SLOW -- RENT CONTROL WILL SLOW DOWN
11:14:04AM CONSTRUCTION OF NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:14:06AM "WALL STREET JOURNAL" ARTICLE DATED THREE DAYS AGO END THE
11:14:10AM CAPE THAT RENT CONTROL SIGNIFICANT ROW REDUCED AN OWNER'S
11:14:14AM RESPONSIBILITY FOR QUALITY HOUSING STOCK RATHER THAN IMPROVE
11:14:18AM IT.
11:14:18AM ECONOMISTS SAY RENT CONTROL WAS PASS TO HELP THOSE IN
11:14:21AM HOUSING, BUT THE REALITY IS THAT RENT CONTROL CREATES
11:14:25AM SCARCITY AND FAR MORE DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO FIND HOUSING.
11:14:28AM THE REALITY IS THAT RENT CONTROL --
11:14:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:14:33AM >> MAKES MATTERS WORSE.
11:14:35AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:14:42AM ANY NAME IS MARGARET RUSHING.
11:14:44AM I AM A BUSINESS OWNER IN TAMPA AND SUPPLIER PARTNER WITH THE
11:14:50AM BAY AREA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
11:14:52AM MY DATE OF BIRTH IS MAY 3, 1952.
11:14:56AM I AM 70 YEARS OLD.
11:14:57AM I WORK EVERY DAY.
11:15:00AM AND I RAISE TWO GRANDDAUGHTERS AND TWO GREAT GRANDCHILDREN
11:15:05AM WHO ARE LIVING WITH ME RIGHT NOW.
11:15:07AM AND THAT IS BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND HOUSING.
11:15:10AM I TEACH THEM BUDGETING.
11:15:13AM I TEACH THEM ECONOMICS.
11:15:16AM AS WELL AS MYSELF, THEY KNOW THAT RENT CONTROL IS NOT THE
11:15:20AM ANSWER.
11:15:21AM THAT WILL ONLY CAUSE AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN AND IT WILL FORCE
11:15:25AM DEVELOPERS OUT OF OUR STATE.
11:15:27AM I KNOW SEVERAL THAT HAVE ALREADY LEFT FOR OTHER STATES
11:15:32AM BECAUSE OF THESE THINGS.
11:15:33AM WE WORK DILIGENTLY IN OUR ASSOCIATION TO TRY TO KEEP THE
11:15:38AM FUNDS THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE USED
11:15:43AM FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:15:46AM WITH OUR OWN MONEY, WE GO TO TALLAHASSEE AND WE GO TO
11:15:50AM LEGISLATIVE OFFICES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO KEEP THE SADOWSKI
11:15:56AM FUND BEING RAIDED AND USED FOR EVERYTHING OTHER THAN
11:15:59AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:16:00AM IF ALL THE ENERGY IN THIS ROOM WERE TO BE PUT TOWARD GOING
11:16:03AM TO YOUR LEGISLATORS AND DEMANDING THAT THIS MONEY BE USED
11:16:09AM FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT WAS INTENDED FOR, IT IS HIGHLY
11:16:12AM LIKELY WE WOULD NOT EVEN BE HERE TODAY.
11:16:15AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS AN ISSUE.
11:16:19AM NOT LACK OF HOUSING OR RATHER LACK OF HOUSING ALL ACROSS THE
11:16:24AM BOARD.
11:16:24AM RENTS HAVE TO BE RAISED AND HAVE BEEN RAISED BECAUSE COSTS
11:16:28AM ACROSS THE BOARD HAVE BEEN RAISED.
11:16:30AM OUR PART AS A SERVICE COMPANY AND ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS IN
11:16:36AM OTHER AREAS HAD TO INCREASE THEIR COSTS BECAUSE OF THE COSTS
11:16:39AM IN PARTS OF OUR LABOR FORCE AND EVERY OTHER ASPECTS
11:16:44AM THROUGHOUT THIS IGS SITUATION.
11:16:47AM HIGH COSTS HAVE TO BE PUT TO COVER THE COSTS TO BE ABLE TO
11:16:52AM CONTINUE TO HAVE HOUSING, PERIOD.
11:16:55AM I AM AGAINST RENT CONTROL BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT IS NOT
11:16:59AM GOING TO BE A SOLUTION HERE.
11:17:01AM WHAT WILL HELP THE SOLUTION IS LET'S GET OUR GOVERNOR AND
11:17:06AM THE LEGISLATURE TO PUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUNDS WHERE
11:17:10AM THEY WERE INTENDED.
11:17:11AM BUILD US MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:17:13AM THANK YOU.
11:17:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:17:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:17:20AM MY NAME IS KEELA McCASKILL.
11:17:23AM I AM A NATIVE OF TAMPA.
11:17:24AM REALTOR, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
11:17:26AM I'M HERE AS WE ALREADY KNOW DISCUSSING THE AFFORDABLE
11:17:29AM HOUSING.
11:17:29AM I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR THE INCREASE.
11:17:33AM FOR A YEAR NOW I WAS BEEN ASKING YOU TO GETS A RAISE.
11:17:36AM YOU ARE ONE OF THE MOST ACTIVE BUNCHES.
11:17:40AM RIGHT NOW YOUR SALARIES.
11:17:42AM YOU QUALIFY -- YOU MIGHT QUALIFY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:17:45AM WE HAVE BEEN HERE -- THANK YOU ALL FOR DECLARING THIS AN
11:17:49AM EMERGENCY AND GETTING IT ON THE BALLOT.
11:17:51AM EVEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR HIM BEING -- HE IS CONSISTENT
11:17:54AM AND ALWAYS WILL BE STRATEGIC IN SUPPORT EVEN IF HE COULDN'T.
11:17:57AM SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
11:17:58AM WE NEED MOST OF YOU WORKING COLLABORATIVELY TO FIND A
11:18:02AM RESOLVE FOR THIS.
11:18:03AM THIS IS A TOUGH PLACE TO BE IN.
11:18:05AM BEFORE I CAN EVEN TALK ABOUT IT.
11:18:07AM I AM MAD AS HELL HERE WE ARE INLE OF A CRISIS AND THE MARE I
11:18:12AM DON'T REMEMBER OF THE CITY GAVE US THE SAME SPEECH FROM LAST
11:18:14AM YEAR AS IF SHE HAS NOT SEEN THE STATE OF EMERGENCY WE ARE
11:18:16AM IN.
11:18:17AM YOU ALREADY TOLD US, 10,000 HOMES WAS YOUR EFFORT.
11:18:20AM WHO GAVE YOU THAT INFORMATION?
11:18:22AM CLEARLY THEY DIDN'T DO A NEEDS ASSESSMENT BECAUSE YOU GAVE
11:18:25AM US THE INFORMATION LAST YEAR.
11:18:26AM SINCE 2017, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WERE MOVING HERE PER DAY.
11:18:30AM WHERE DO YOU GET THEM NUMBERS FROM?
11:18:33AM WHO GAVE THAT YOU INFORMATION?
11:18:34AM MAKE IT PUBLIC.
11:18:35AM BECAUSE I GUARANTEE YOU THEY WERE NO THE A PROFESSIONAL THAT
11:18:37AM GAVE HER THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT, IF SHE EVEN HAD ONE.
11:18:41AM I AM GOING TO GO BACK TO SAY ALMOST A YEAR YOU HAVE HEARD
11:18:44AM FROM US.
11:18:44AM WE HAVE COME IN HERE.
11:18:45AM YOU HEARD FROM THE PEOPLE IMPACTED BY THIS CRISIS.
11:18:48AM I AM TOO YOUNG TO KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE WHEN THEY
11:18:50AM COME BACK.
11:18:51AM I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE GOING TO BE.
11:18:54AM WHAT I I WANT TO SAY WHILE WE WAIT TO HEAR FROM LEGAL AND IF
11:18:57AM IT GETS ON THE BALLOT AND WHATEVER.
11:18:59AM I KNOW WE CAN'T BUILD OUR WAY OUT AND WE CAN'T RENT
11:19:03AM STABILIZATION OUR WAY OUT OF THIS.
11:19:04AM WE HAVE NOT NECESSARILY PUBLICLY HEARD FROM DEVELOPERS OR
11:19:08AM THE LANDLORDS PRIOR TO TODAY.
11:19:10AM BUT YOU GOT INTO THEIR POCKETS WITH RENT STABILIZATION.
11:19:14AM I WOULD ENCOURAGE WE DO SOME KIND OF BOARD THAT WORKS WITH
11:19:17AM YOU AS WE WORK TOWARD THE RESOLVE.
11:19:19AM THE DEVELOPER CAN SAY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THESE
11:19:23AM AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS ANYMORE.
11:19:25AM A FLIP TO CONDO CONVERSIONS.
11:19:28AM WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT.
11:19:29AM WE CAN SEE THE LANDLORDS, THE SMALLER ONES SELL THEIR
11:19:33AM PROPERTIES.
11:19:33AM WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT.
11:19:34AM AND CORPORATIONS WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM.
11:19:38AM IF THEIR EMPLOYEES CAN'T GET TO WORK 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR
11:19:40AM WITH GAS PRICES THE WAY THEY ARE.
11:19:42AM WHAT IS THEIR IMPACTS?
11:19:43AM WE NEED TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY TO WORK TOWARD A SOLUTION.
11:19:46AM I AM FOR RENTS STABILIZATION IF IT MEANS IT IS A HELP, BUT
11:19:49AM NOT THE ONLY THING TO HELP.
11:19:50AM PERHAPS GIVE ASSISTANCE TO THE LANDLORDS AND DEVELOPERS.
11:19:53AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESOLVE, I WANT US TO WORK
11:19:56AM COLLABORATIVELY.
11:19:57AM WE ARE BEING WATCHED AROUND THE WORLD AND WE HAVE A CHANCE
11:20:01AM TO LEAD WITH THE RESOLVE.
11:20:02AM WE CAN DO THIS.
11:20:03AM SAY YES.
11:20:03AM THANK YOU.
11:20:05AM GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS ERIC GARDINO FOR THE BAY AREA
11:20:16AM APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
11:20:17AM THANK YOU FOR ME BEING HERE.
11:20:19AM I AM NOT A TAMPA RESIDENT, BUT I REPRESENT THE APARTMENT
11:20:24AM INDUSTRY IN THE TAMPA BAY REGION, APARTMENT OWNERS, REALTORS
11:20:29AM AND MANAGERS IN MARKET RATE AND AFFORDABLE.
11:20:32AM OUR MEMBERS SPAN -- SPAN THE BOARD AS IT RELATES TO THE TYPE
11:20:36AM OF HOUSING THAT ARE PROVIDED AND THE AMOUNTS THAT THEY
11:20:38AM CHARGE EVERY DAY.
11:20:39AM BUT ALL OF THEM ARE BEING IMPACTED BY INFLATIONARY PRESSURES
11:20:43AM TODAY.
11:20:44AM I THINK EVERYBODY SEES THAT DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
11:20:46AM ONE THING THAT I KNOW WE CAN ALL AGREE ON CLEARLY BECAUSE I
11:20:49AM HEARD IT FROM EVERYBODY WHO HAS SPOKEN UP HERE THAT WE DON'T
11:20:52AM HAVE ENOUGH HOMES.
11:20:53AM WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOMES FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO
11:20:56AM LIVE HERE IN TAMPA THAT IS -- THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT.
11:20:59AM THAT SHORTAGE OF HOUSING HAS PUT US TO A POINT WHERE THE
11:21:03AM PRICES FOR RENTALS AND FOR HOMES FOR SALE HAVE GONE UP.
11:21:07AM THAT PUSHED THOSE PRICES UP.
11:21:09AM WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THOUGH IS HOW RENT CONTROL SP GOING
11:21:13AM TO ADDRESS THE LACK OF SUPPLY THAT IS AT THE ROOT OF ALL
11:21:18AM THIS.
11:21:18AM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN TERMS OF DATA THAT RENT CONTROL WILL
11:21:23AM ACTUALLY HURT SUPPLY.
11:21:24AM WE HAVE SEEN THAT?
11:21:25AM ST. PAUL, WHERE LAST -- OVER THE LAST YEAR, THE NEW BUILDING
11:21:30AM FOR MULTIFAMILY HAS GONE DOWN 82%.
11:21:34AM THAT NUMBER IS ALSO 55% OVER THE AVERAGE OF THREE YEARS.
11:21:37AM NOT JUST LIKE A ONE-YEAR FLUKE.
11:21:39AM THIS IS -- THIS IS REAL DETRIMENT TO THE HOUSING SUPPLY IN
11:21:44AM ST. PAUL.
11:21:44AM WE LOOKED AT OTHER STUDIES THAT LOOKED AT THE OTHER PARTS OF
11:21:47AM THE COUNTRY THAT INSTITUTED RENT CONTROL.
11:21:49AM PLACES LIKE RENT CONTROL WHERE CHANGES IN THE RENT CONTROL
11:21:52AM LAW FORCED 15% OF THE HOUSING SUPPLY OF SMALL MULTI FAMILY
11:21:56AM TO GO DOWN.
11:21:57AM THIS IS REAL DATA POINTS THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT HAVE
11:22:00AM HAPPENED IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE ADOPTED
11:22:03AM RENT CONTROL.
11:22:03AM AND LET'S ALSO REMEMBER TOO THAT SOME OF THESE PLACES LIKE
11:22:07AM NEW YORK, LIKE SAN FRANCISCO, HAVE ADDED RENT CONTROL FOR
11:22:11AM GENERATIONS.
11:22:12AM AND THEY STILL HAVE CONSISTENTLY THE HIGHEST RENTS EVERY
11:22:16AM YEAR FOR PROBABLY THE LAST 20 OR 30 YEARS IN BOTH THOSE TWO
11:22:21AM MARKETS.
11:22:22AM EVERY YEAR, THEY ARE WOEFULLY UNDERIS UP APOLOGIZED IN
11:22:26AM HOUSING.
11:22:26AM RENT CONTROL IS NOT THE ANSWER TO GET US OUT OF THE
11:22:30AM SITUATION WE ARE IN.
11:22:30AM WE NEED MORE HOUSING.
11:22:31AM AND RENT CONTROL IS GOING TO DISCOURAGE THAT.
11:22:33AM I ALSO MIGHT POINT OUT THAT SOME OF THE DATA POINTS THAT ARE
11:22:37AM BEING DISCUSSED TODAY ARE CHANGING OR HAVE CHANGED.
11:22:40AM I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE OPERATING ON DATA FROM LAST
11:22:43AM YEAR.
11:22:44AM DATA FROM LAST YEAR IS CHANGING AND MOVING.
11:22:47AM AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW TODAY IS A LOT MORE UNITS
11:22:49AM BECOMING AVAILABLE.
11:22:50AM THE VACANCIES ARE GOING UP.
11:22:53AM WHAT WE ARE LIKELY GOING TO SEE BY THE END OF THE YEAR IF
11:22:57AM THERE ARE ANY INCREASES SINGLE-DIGIT INCREASE FOR ANY KIND
11:23:01AM OF RENT.
11:23:01AM THAT IS WHAT ANALYSTS ARE PREDICT IN LOOKING AT THE MARKET.
11:23:07AM THOSE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND.
11:23:09AM LASTLY, I WANT TO SAY THAT WE UNDERSTAND PEOPLE HAVE A HARD
11:23:13AM TIME MAKING ENDS MEET.
11:23:15AM RESIDENTS IN NEED.
11:23:17AM WE ASK FOR DIRECT ASSISTANCE TO THOSE FOLKS.
11:23:19AM SO THANK YOU.
11:23:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:23:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:23:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:23:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SIR, WHAT IS YOUR NAME AND WHERE ARE YOU
11:23:27AM WITH?
11:23:27AM >> REMEMBER RICK GARDUNO WITH THE BAY AREA APARTMENT
11:23:32AM ASSOCIATION.
11:23:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY QUESTION TO YOU, SIR.
11:23:35AM UNTIL THIS COUNCIL TOOK A FOOT FORWARD TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE
11:23:40AM WITH OUR CITIZENS, WHERE -- WHERE HAVE THE DEVELOPERS AND
11:23:44AM THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATIONS BEEN?
11:23:48AM I AM JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE NOW WE ARE HERE.
11:23:51AM AND I AM GLAD -- WHAT MR. MIRANDA SAID.
11:23:55AM WE GOT TO SHAKE IT TO GET THINGS MOVING.
11:23:58AM MAYBE THIS CONVERSATION NOW CAN START MOVING.
11:23:59AM WE PUT SOMETHING ON THE VOTE NOW HAVE A BOARD TO COME
11:24:03AM TOGETHER AND FINDS SOLUTIONS OF ALL THE VACANT APARTMENTS --
11:24:07AM APARTMENTS THAT ARE EMPTY AND DROP THOSE RENTS SO PEOPLE CAN
11:24:10AM BE IN AND HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, REHAB SOME OF THE BUILDINGS
11:24:14AM THAT WE HAVE AND NOW WE HAVE THE SUPPLY.
11:24:16AM I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE SUPPLY BUT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY
11:24:18AM IN THEIR POCKETS TO MAKE ENOUGH TO PAY FOR THE PRICE THAT
11:24:21AM ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
11:24:22AM THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.
11:24:23AM LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE YOU GUY HAVE BEEN.
11:24:26AM THANK YOU.
11:24:27AM MAY I?
11:24:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANTED TO JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE,
11:24:31AM BECAUSE I AM HEARING THAT.
11:24:32AM AND PEOPLE HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME.
11:24:33AM BUT WE GOT THIS ISSUE FOR A WHILE.
11:24:35AM THANK YOU FOR COMING.
11:24:36AM GOOD MORNING.
11:24:43AM JACOB BRUYNELL, WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
11:24:49AM I HAVE A POLLING SURVEY THAT WE CONDUCTED IN MAY THAT I
11:24:52AM WOULD LIKE TO HAND OUT TO COUNCILMEMBERS IF THAT'S OKAY.
11:24:56AM I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE WERE HERE IN MARCH, MAY
11:25:07AM AND JUNE.
11:25:07AM SO WE HAVE BEEN AROUND, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN RECEIVING TOO
11:25:11AM MANY E-MAILS FROM ANYONE EXCEPT PROBABLY CARLSON WHO
11:25:15AM RESPONDS PRETTY FAST.
11:25:17AM ANYWAY, GOODS MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:25:19AM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU THIS MORNING.
11:25:21AM MY NAME IS JACOB BRUNELL AND DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENTAL
11:25:29AM AFFAIRS FOR TAMPA BAY REALTORS.
11:25:31AM OUR ASSOCIATION REPRESENTS 16,000 MEMBERS IN THE TAMPA BAY
11:25:35AM AREA.
11:25:35AM OUR ASSOCIATION UNDERSTANDS THE CRITICAL NEED FOR RENTAL
11:25:38AM HOUSING AND THE NEED TO EXPANDS OUR CURRENT RENTAL HOUSING
11:25:43AM INVENTORY.
11:25:43AM EVERY YEAR OUR ASSOCIATION AND THOUSAND OF REALTORS ACROSS
11:25:47AM THE STATE OF FLORIDA HEAD TO TALLAHASSEE TO MEET WITH OUR
11:25:51AM LEGISLATORS.
11:25:51AM YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE ADVOCATE FOR FULL FUNDING OF
11:25:57AM THE SADOWSKI TRUST FUNDS.
11:25:58AM THIS TAX PAID ON ALL REAL ESTATE IS TRANSACTIONS AND HAVE
11:26:03AM LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO PAY PARTNERSHIPS THAT PRODUCE AND
11:26:05AM PRESERVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:26:07AM UNFORTUNATELY, MORE THAN $2 BILLION HAVE BEEN SWEPT FROM THE
11:26:12AM TRUST FUND RESULTING IN 94,000 FOREGONE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
11:26:18AM UNITS.
11:26:18AM TO ALLEVIATE THE HOUSING COST BURDEN&MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
11:26:24AM MORE ACCESSIBLE, THE STATE MUST FULLY COMMIT TO FUNDING
11:26:29AM THE SADOWSKI HOUSE FUNDS.
11:26:32AM AND AFTER THE EMERGENCE OF COVID-19 HAS BEEN THE ABILITY OF
11:26:36AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND BARRIERS TO CONSTRUCT HOUSING.
11:26:40AM RENT CONTROL HAS BEEN SHOWN TO INCREASE LOCAL TAXES,
11:26:43AM NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE EXISTING HOUSING STOCK.
11:26:45AM AND REDUCE THE FUTURE INVENTORY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:26:49AM BY DISCOURAGING DEVELOPMENT, RENT CONTROL EFFECTIVELY
11:26:52AM RESTRICTS SUPPLY DRIVING UP HOUSING COSTS.
11:26:55AM IN MAY, OUR ASSOCIATION CONDUCT A RENT CONTROL SURVEY IN
11:26:59AM FRONT OF YOU.
11:27:00AM AND PRESENTED THE FACTS AT THE MAY 26 COUNCIL WORKSHOP.
11:27:04AM THE SURVEY FOCUSED ON ACTIVELY VOTING TAMPA RESIDENTS ACROSS
11:27:09AM SEVERAL DEMOCRATICS AND POLITICAL AFFILIATION ON THEIR VIEWS
11:27:13AM OF RENT CONTROL.
11:27:14AM 63% OF RESPONDENTS AGREED THAT RENT CONTROL WILL HAVE
11:27:20AM UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES 74% OF DEMOCRATS SUPPORTED MORE
11:27:25AM HOUSING INSTEAD OF RENT CONTROL POLICIES.
11:27:27AM 64% OF ALL RESPONDENTS AGREED THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING
11:27:31AM DEVELOPMENTS SHOULD BE FAST TRACKED TO COMBAT HOUSING
11:27:34AM SCARCITY.
11:27:35AM CONSIDERING THESE NEGATIVE IMPLICATIONS OF RENT CONTROL FOR
11:27:39AM OUR CITY AND RESIDENTS, GREATER TAMPA REALTORS CAN IS
11:27:44AM ENCOURAGING THIS COUNCIL TO ADOPT POLICIES THAT WILL PROMOTE
11:27:46AM THE INCREASE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND REMOVE DISINCENTIVES
11:27:51AM THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE LACK OF PRIVATE CAPITAL
11:27:55AM INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
11:27:55AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TENDS EFFORTS AND DEDICATION TO THE CITY
11:27:59AM OF TAMPA.
11:27:59AM OUR ASSOCIATION AND ITS 16,000 MEMBERS STAND READY TO ASSIST
11:28:05AM IN ANY MANNER.
11:28:06AM THANK YOU.
11:28:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:28:07AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
11:28:19AM MY NAME IS LINDA WIGGINS-CHAVIS.
11:28:23AM I AM FROM FAITH IN FLORIDA.
11:28:24AM I HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
11:28:27AM LET ME FIRST START BY SAYING THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN GUDES
11:28:33AM FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE REGARDING THIS CRISIS AND TO THE REST
11:28:36AM OF YOU FOR SUPPORTING HIS MOTION.
11:28:38AM I AM AT A LOSS FOR WORDS NOW.
11:28:43AM IT -- IT IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS FOR DEVELOPERS, LANDLORDS
11:28:54AM TO COME UP HERE AND TALK TO US LIKE WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING
11:28:58AM OUR JOBS.
11:28:59AM TO TALK TO US AND TELL US THAT WE NEED TO GO TO TALLAHASSEE
11:29:03AM -- NO, YOU GO TO TALLAHASSEE.
11:29:05AM YOU DO YOUR JOB AS A LANDLORD.
11:29:09AM YOU STAND UP FOR THESE PEOPLE THE WAY THAT THEY NEED YOU TO.
11:29:14AM DON'T SLAP SOMEBODY IN THE FACE AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, I
11:29:18AM KNOW IT HURTS, BUT LET ME GIVE YOU THIS LOLLIPOP.
11:29:23AM YOU WILL BE OKAY.
11:29:24AM NO, THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
11:29:26AM I AM TIRED OF IT.
11:29:27AM I AM TIERDZ OF IT.
11:29:29AM HISTORICALLY IN THIS COUNTRY -- I AM TIRED OF IT.
11:29:33AM HISTORICALLY IN THIS COUNTRY, BLACK PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS TOLD
11:29:36AM TO WAIT FOR JUSTICE.
11:29:37AM ALWAYS.
11:29:38AM AND THIS CRISIS DISPROPORTIONATELY EFFECTS BLACK AND BROWN
11:29:44AM PEOPLE.
11:29:44AM WE KNOW THIS.
11:29:45AM WHETHER WE WANT TO ADMIT TO IT OR NOT, WE KNOW THIS.
11:29:51AM WE NEED TO STOP ACTING LIKE WE ARE NOT INTELLIGENT JUVENILE
11:29:56AM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE.
11:29:58AM BECAUSE WE ARE.
11:30:00AM AND IF -- IF THEY DON'T WANT TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE THE WAY
11:30:06AM THAT IT NEEDS TO BE SOLVED, GO DEVELOP SOMEWHERE ELSE.
11:30:10AM WE ARE TIRED OF THIS.
11:30:14AM AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO PUT UP WITH IT ANYMORE.
11:30:18AM WE NEED SOMETHING TO IT BE DONE.
11:30:20AM IT NEEDS TO BE CARRIED THROUGH TO THE END.
11:30:24AM THIS IS JUST THE VERY FIRST STEP.
11:30:26AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I AM NOT EVEN
11:30:34AM PERSONALLY AFFECTED BY IT.
11:30:38AM BUT THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE OUT HERE WHO ARE THAT LOOK
11:30:42AM LIKE ME.
11:30:42AM SO I AM GOING TO STAND UP FOR THEM OVER AND OVER AND OVER
11:30:48AM AGAIN UNTIL THIS IS RESOLVED.
11:30:51AM NOT JUST SLAPPING A BAND-AID ON IT.
11:30:54AM IT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED.
11:30:55AM THANK YOU.
11:30:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:30:59AM >> GOOD MORNING OR AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.
11:31:05AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:31:06AM COUNCILMAN GUDES I WANT TO SAY THIS FIRST.
11:31:08AM WHEN YOU WERE RUNNING FOR OFFICE, NEVER HEARD OF RENT
11:31:12AM CONTROL AND YOU THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY.
11:31:14AM HE HAD NEVER HEARD OF IT.
11:31:15AM WHAT I WANT TO SAY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING WHO
11:31:18AM THINK RENT CONTROL -- THESE ARE PEOPLE NOT TALKING OF
11:31:20AM WELFARE.
11:31:21AM THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THEMSELVES TOGETHER.
11:31:22AM BUT IT IS HARD TO TELL SOMEONE NOT ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING
11:31:28AM WHEN YOU ARE WATCHING CORPORATIONS TAKE OVER THE CITY.
11:31:31AM I REMEMBER WEST TAMPA, THE RAILROAD TRACK ENDED AT SPRUCE.
11:31:36AM ALL THE WAY CROSS KENNEDY.
11:31:39AM THE RAILROAD TRACKS ARE NO LONG THEY ARE.
11:31:43AM WE ARE WATCHING CONDOS AND EVERYTHING GO UP.
11:31:45AM NOBODY IN WEST TAMPA WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE INTO ANY OF THIS.
11:31:49AM BUT THE PEOPLE ARE NOT FOR RENT CONTROL, AGAIN, I WANT TO
11:31:52AM EMPHASIZE.
11:31:53AM WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT WELFARE.
11:31:55AM WE ARE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO STAY TO BE SURE WE CAN STAY
11:31:58AM THERE AND MAKE HOMES.
11:31:59AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:32:02AM A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEIR OWN HOUSE.
11:32:05AM THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A YARD.
11:32:06AM MIGHT GET ONE LIKE MIRANDA AND HAVE EVERYTHING FIXED UP JUST
11:32:10AM PERFECTLY.
11:32:10AM BUT, AGAIN, I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY TALKING TO -- I WENT
11:32:14AM OUTSIDE TO TALK TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT SAID -- ABOUT THE
11:32:17AM HOUSING THAT HE RENTS.
11:32:19AM AND I TALKED TO HIM AND I EXPLAINED DO YOU KNOW HISTORY HAS
11:32:22AM BEEN MOVED.
11:32:23AM DO YOU KNOW NOTHING HERE IT SHALL I ASKED HIM HOW LONG HE
11:32:25AM HAS BEEN HERE.
11:32:26AM I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE.
11:32:28AM YESTERDAY I CELEBRATED MY 77th YEAR.
11:32:31AM I THINK IT IS RIDICULOUS --
11:32:34AM [APPLAUSE]
11:32:34AM -- THANKS.
11:32:35AM TO WATCH ALL OF THIS AND LET THE CONTRACTORS COME IN AND
11:32:39AM TAKE OVER.
11:32:39AM A LOT OF OUR PLACES DO NOT EXIST AT ALL ANYMORE.
11:32:44AM AND I THINK FOR THE PEOPLE LISTENING AND THE ONE THAT ARE
11:32:48AM LISTENING, YOU ARE TAKING EVERYTHING AWAY.
11:32:51AM WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR WELFARE.
11:32:52AM WE ARE LOOKING TO BE INDEPENDENT.
11:32:54AM AND YOU ARE STOPPING IT.
11:32:55AM YOU DID THIS IN ROSEWOOD WHEN WE STARTED AGAIN.
11:32:58AM AND I WAS WATCHING SOMETHING IN 1963.
11:33:01AM THEY WOULD CALL IT FIVE BLACK MEN.
11:33:03AM THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN THE SAME.
11:33:04AM IT IS TIME TO CHANGE AND PLEASE GET THE HOUSING OVER.
11:33:12AM RENT STABILIZATION FOR A WHILE IT WOULD HELP IF WE CAN ENDS
11:33:16AM UP AFFORDING OUR OWN HOME.
11:33:17AM SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO.
11:33:19AM RETIRED LIKE I AM.
11:33:21AM DO NOT WANT TO HAVE A HOUSE AGAIN.
11:33:23AM ENJOY WORKING.
11:33:24AM I RETIRED FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND I WORKED AND HAD
11:33:27AM GRANDCHILDREN, RAISED THEM AND ALL.
11:33:29AM WE WANT TO BE INDEPENDENT.
11:33:31AM WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS.
11:33:32AM AGAIN, THE CORPORATIONS ARE TAKE CAN OVER AND IT IS TOO
11:33:35AM MUCH.
11:33:35AM AND I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYONE SAYING THAT WE DON'T NEED TO
11:33:40AM WORK.
11:33:40AM THAT WE ARE WATCHING THESE EXPENSIVE -- CARVER CITY ALL UP
11:33:45AM AND DOWN.
11:33:47AM CARVER CITY WITH CONDOS.
11:33:50AM YOU ARE LOOKING AT PEOPLE WHO OWN THEIR HOMES ARE JUST ABOUT
11:33:52AM OUT AND SCARED TO DEATH.
11:33:54AM SO WE NEED TO WIND UP COMING TOGETHER AND FOR THE LADY THAT
11:33:57AM THINKS WE DIDN'T GO TO TALLAHASSEE.
11:33:59AM WE GO ALL THE TIME.
11:34:00AM AND WE WILL BE GOING AGAIN .
11:34:02AM [APPLAUSE]
11:34:08AM HI, GOOD MORNING, CARRIE MUELLER.
11:34:11AM I AM A RESIDENT OF ST. PETERSBURG.
11:34:13AM I WANTED TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHY LANDLORDS HAVE
11:34:17AM NOT BEEN PRESENT EARLIER.
11:34:19AM I WANT TO LET'S YOU KNOW I RELOCATED FROM THE SOUTH FLORIDA
11:34:22AM REGION ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO TO ST. PETERSBURG.
11:34:26AM AND I HAVE ATTENDED EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE COMMUNITY MEETING
11:34:29AM ABOUT HOUSING.
11:34:30AM I HAVE ATTENDED MEETINGS ON HOW TO DISTRIBUTE THE ARPA
11:34:35AM FUNDS, THE $45 MILLION THAT ST. PETERSBURG WAS ABLE TO
11:34:38AM RECEIVE AND SIGNIFICANT MAJORITIES OF THOSE FUNDS WERE
11:34:41AM ALLOCATED TO HOUSING.
11:34:42AM THAT IS BASED ON THE PUBLIC'S INPUT TO PRIORITIZE THOSE
11:34:47AM FUNDS TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING CRISIS.
11:34:49AM I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THAT
11:34:52AM MEETING.
11:34:52AM I ATTENDED THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS FOR THE MAYOR FOR OUR
11:34:56AM NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF ST. PETERSBURG.
11:34:58AM AND I CURRENTLY VOLUNTEER UP TO 15 TO 20 HOURS A WEEK TO
11:35:01AM WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO TRY TO MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE
11:35:04AM FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
11:35:05AM I REALLY ADVOCATE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF SOUTH ST. PETE.
11:35:11AM I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS MONEY TO TRY TO SUPPORT
11:35:13AM THEM.
11:35:13AM TRY TO GET THEM TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PARTICIPATING
11:35:18AM IN THE GROWTH IN A POSITIVE WAY BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND AND I
11:35:25AM EMPATHIZE WITH PEOPLE.
11:35:26AM THEY ARE NOT WINNING.
11:35:28AM THEY ARE SEEING DAMAGE -- I UNDERSTAND AND EMPATHIZE AND
11:35:32AM AGREE WITH THEIR POSITIONS.
11:35:33AM I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING
11:35:36AM I CAN TO PARTICIPATE IN TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS.
11:35:38AM AND I ATTENDS CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
11:35:43AM I WRITE CITY COUNCIL.
11:35:44AM AND I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO WORK AS A WHOLE COMMUNITY.
11:35:48AM BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS THE LEVELS AT A STATE
11:35:51AM LEVEL AND REALLY ADDRESS THESE AT A NATIONAL ISSUE.
11:35:54AM THIS A NATIONAL HOUSING CRISIS.
11:35:57AM IN THE PAST PEOPLE HAD TO MOVE TO A MORE AFFORDABLE
11:36:00AM LOCATION.
11:36:00AM NOW THERE IS NO AFFORDABLE LOCATIONS.
11:36:02AM THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY AS AMERICANS, AS
11:36:06AM WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE AT ALL INCOME LEVELS.
11:36:10AM IT IS VERY SERIOUS.
11:36:11AM I WANTED TO RESPOND AGAIN WHY PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE INDUSTRY
11:36:14AM HAVE NOT ATTENDED.
11:36:16AM AND I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT EVERY TIME I ENCOUNTER ONE
11:36:19AM OF THE TENANT UNION GROUPS, I AM MET WITH HATE.
11:36:23AM I AM MET WITH BEING CALLED A PARASITE.
11:36:25AM I HAVE BEEN YELLED AT WITH A MEGAPHONE TO GO TO HELL,
11:36:29AM LANDLORD.
11:36:30AM I WAS RECENTLY TOLD THAT LANDLORDS SHOULD NOT EXIST.
11:36:34AM AND THAT THEY WANT TO CREATES A LANDLORD REGISTRY.
11:36:38AM I WAS TOLD AFTER 22 YEARS, I WORKED AS BE A ENGINEER
11:36:42AM BUILDING BUILDINGS AND INFRASTRUCTURE OFTEN FOR PUBLIC
11:36:45AM MUNICIPAL AGENCIES AND FEDERAL AGENCIES FOR THE.PUBLIC AS AN
11:36:48AM ENGINEER.
11:36:49AM I WORKED FOR 22 YEARS.
11:36:50AM I WAS TOLD TO GET A REAL JOB.
11:36:52AM SO I AM DOING THIS OBJECT MY OWN.
11:36:55AM LANDLORDS, WE ARE INDONESIA PENITENTIARY.
11:36:56AM WE LIKE TO WORK INDEPENDENTLY.
11:36:58AM I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF OTHER LANDLORDS THAT LIKE TO GET IN A
11:37:02AM GROUP TO COME HERE, BUT I WANT TO SPEAK MY MIND AND LET YOU
11:37:05AM KNOW THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM TOGETHER.
11:37:07AM THANK YOU.
11:37:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:37:09AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:37:19AM MY NAME IS PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS.
11:37:23AM LOCATED 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
11:37:25AM I HAVE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE TIME AND TIME AGAIN, BUT Y'ALL
11:37:29AM SEEM TO HAVE DEAF EAR WHEN I COME UP HERE TO SPEAK.
11:37:33AM I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW SOMETHING.
11:37:35AM I THANK GOD FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY.
11:37:37AM AND I PRACTICE I TO GOD TO BLESS Y'ALL ALSO.
11:37:41AM ALTHOUGH YOU MAY HATE ME, BUT I AM NOT GOING TO HATE Y'ALL.
11:37:44AM I DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF HEART.
11:37:46AM A YOUNG LADY HERE LAST WEEK
11:37:48AM BASICALLY WHY I CAME BACK OVER HERE THIS WEEK.
11:37:51AM A YOUNG LADY WAS OVER HERE LAST WEEK HAD TEARS IN HER EYES,
11:37:56AM CRYING, BECAUSE HER LANDLORD HAD WENT UP ON HER RENT.
11:37:59AM AND SHE HAD THREE CHILDREN.
11:38:01AM AND SHE TOLD ME THAT THEY HAVE PUT -- PUT MERE OUT THE DOOR.
11:38:05AM AND WHERE COULD SHE GO.
11:38:07AM FIERMLY SHE MADE A FRIEND -- MET A FRIEND THAT TOOK HER UP.
11:38:11AM BUT KNOW WHAT, IT IS SO SAD THAT YOU CITY COUNCIL DON'T SEEM
11:38:18AM TO UNDERSTAND.
11:38:19AM YOU DON'T WANT TO UNDERSTAND.
11:38:21AM OUR POSITION.
11:38:23AM AND YOU TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:38:25AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT I CAN AFFORD AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:38:28AM WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS GOING TO START FROM.
11:38:30AM I AM ON A FIXED INCOME.
11:38:33AM Y'ALL CAN CARE LESS ABOUT ME.
11:38:35AM WHETHER I AM ON THE STREET, WHETHER I AM IN THE BUSHES OR
11:38:39AM WHATEVER.
11:38:39AM Y'ALL CAN CARE LESS.
11:38:42AM AND IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY EVER SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN TAMPA.
11:38:45AM AND I JUST WANT TO THANK GOD THAT I'M HERE TODAY.
11:38:48AM I AM AN OLD MAN.
11:38:50AM BUT GOD HAS BEEN SO GOOD TO ALL OF US.
11:38:53AM YOU, ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
11:38:55AM YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING, LORD HAVE MERCY.
11:38:59AM WE GOT A MAN NOW TALKING ABOUT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
11:39:02AM AND I AM TALKING ABOUT Y'ALL BOY -- WHAT IS HIS NAME, DONALD
11:39:08AM TRUMP.
11:39:08AM I AM TALKING ABOUT THAT GUY.
11:39:09AM HE IS RUNNING -- WANTING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
11:39:12AM AND YOU KNOW WHEN HE WAS THERE BEFORE, YOU KNOW HE SHUT DOWN
11:39:15AM THE GOVERNMENT.
11:39:15AM HOW DO YOU -- DID Y'ALL KNOW THAT?
11:39:19AM I KNOW Y'ALL KNOW.
11:39:20AM BUT THE THING ABOUT IT, HE WANTS TO GET BACK THERE THIS
11:39:24AM TIME.
11:39:24AM SHUT IT DOWN AGAIN.
11:39:25AM HE DON'T CARE NOTHING ABOUT YOU.
11:39:27AM HE DON'T CARE NOTHING ABOUT YOUR COLOR.
11:39:29AM ALL OF US ARE GOING TO BE IN THE HOLE TOGETHER.
11:39:32AM WHITE OR BLACK, IT DOESN'T MAKE NO DIFFERENCE.
11:39:36AM THAT IS WHY I WANT TO TELL YOU ALL WE WANT TO DO IS TO BE
11:39:39AM TREATED LIKE CITIZENS.
11:39:40AM I AM TALKING ABOUT THE JEW, THE MEXICAN, THE INDIAN, THE
11:39:45AM BLACK, THE COLOR, POOR WHITE AND CHRISTIAN.
11:39:48AM ALL OF US, WE JUST WANT TO BE TREATED LIKE CITIZENS OF THE
11:39:51AM UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
11:39:53AM I THINK THAT IS WHERE I AM AT.
11:39:55AM AIN'T I IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?
11:39:58AM BUT I AM TREATED LIKE AN ANIMAL.
11:40:00AM I AM TREATED LIKE AN ANIMAL.
11:40:03AM AND YOU TOO.
11:40:04AM WHAT -- WHETHER YOU HAVE A MUCH DECENT JOB OR NOT.
11:40:09AM WE ARE TREATED LIKE ANIMALS.
11:40:11AM THEY LOOK AT THE COLOR OF MY KIN AND TELL ME TO GET IN THE
11:40:14AM BACK OF THE LINE.
11:40:16AM AND IT HAS BEEN THAT EVER SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE IN A PLACE
11:40:20AM CALL THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
11:40:22AM YOU DON'T GIVE A DAMN OF CERTAIN PEOPLE.
11:40:24AM UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE GETTING A CHECK ONCE A MONTH.
11:40:27AM AND WE DON'T CARE.
11:40:28AM WE CARE LESS ABOUT FRANK WILLIAMS AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
11:40:32AM BUT YOU WANT TO KNOW, I STILL WANT TO TELL Y'ALL, GOD BLESS
11:40:36AM ALL OF Y'ALL.
11:40:36AM Y'ALL WILL BE ALL RIGHT.
11:40:40AM THANK YOU.
11:40:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:40:43AM MISS LOCKETT, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, AS I SEE NO ONE STANDING FOR
11:40:56AM PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THIS GENTLEMAN -- THEN IF YOU COULD
11:41:03AM PLEASE.
11:41:04AM >> IT'S HARD FOR ME TO COME UP.
11:41:07AM >> SHE CAN'T STAND FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
11:41:09AM >> I AM JUST TRYING TO GAUGE WHERE WE ARE AT.
11:41:11AM >> I WILL JUST HERE CITRO.
11:41:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR -- SORRY, MA'AM, MA'AM.
11:41:15AM MISS LOCKETT, PLEASE.
11:41:19AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:41:21AM YOU KNOW, I AM REALLY FULL THIS MORNING.
11:41:24AM ON THE BRINK OF TEARS.
11:41:26AM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AROUND HOUSING SINCE FEBRUARY.
11:41:37AM WHERE HAVE THE DEVELOPERS, THE LANDLORDS, THE MANAGEMENT
11:41:41AM COMPANY.
11:41:42AM LIKE DAVID AGAINST GOLIATH.
11:41:44AM AND YOU STILL HAVE THE CHOICE TO MAKE A SOLID DECISION ON
11:41:51AM DOING RIGHT BY THE PEOPLE.
11:41:53AM HALF THOSE PEOPLE DON'T EVEN LIVE IN YOUR DISTRICT.
11:41:57AM BUT THEY ARE COMING UP HERE AND THIS HOUSING SITUATION IS
11:42:01AM NOT ABOUT POOR PEOPLE.
11:42:02AM IT IS ABOUT PEOPLE.
11:42:04AM IT IS ABOUT PEOPLE.
11:42:07AM IT IS ABOUT THE HAVES AND THE HAVE NOTES.
11:42:11AM WE WILL NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION IF THEY DIDN'T RAISE THE
11:42:16AM RENT.
11:42:16AM THE CRAZY AMOUNT THAT THEY HAVE.
11:42:18AM WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION.
11:42:20AM SO THEY ARE COMING AND THEY ARE -- THEY ARE MAKING STANCES.
11:42:25AM I HAVE HEARD -- THERE ARE NICE LANDLORDS.
11:42:31AM THE LANDLORDS ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
11:42:33AM WE HAVE SLUMLORDS THAT STILL RAISING THEIR RENT.
11:42:37AM ALL -- CREATE MORE PROGRAMS.
11:42:42AM THAT -- I AM -- I AM SO INFURIATED RIGHT NOW.
11:42:47AM CREATE MORE PROGRAMS AND ASSISTANCE, WHY?
11:42:50AM TO FILL THEIR POCKETS MORE?
11:42:52AM THE RATE -- THE RENT IS RAISING, RISING.
11:42:57AM WHEN IT IS OVER, IT IS STILL GOING TO BE UP THERE.
11:43:01AM ARE WE GOING TO DECREASE IT WHEN IT IS ALL OVER?
11:43:03AM NO, THEY ARE GOING TO KEEP IT THE SAME.
11:43:06AM SO THE MERE FACT THAT THEY ARE HERE IN THE 12th HOUR BECAUSE
11:43:11AM THE COMMUNITY CAME OUT PUSHING, LOBBYING, HAVING
11:43:19AM CONVERSATIONS.
11:43:19AM Y'ALL HAVE HEARD PEOPLE'S TEARS, SEEN PEOPLE'S TEARS.
11:43:23AM AND THEY COME OUT IN THE 12th HOUR.
11:43:25AM ALL WHITE MEN AND A FEW -- A FEW WOMEN CHALLENGING YOU GUYS.
11:43:33AM I AM SO INFURIATED RIGHT NOW.
11:43:35AM I KID YOU NOT.
11:43:37AM YOU MADE A DECISION, A BOLD DECISION TO STEP OUT OF THE BOX
11:43:43AM AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT HOUSING.
11:43:45AM FOR A YEAR.
11:43:49AM AND WE ARE NOT SAYING THEY DON'T KEEP THEIR MONEY.
11:43:51AM DON'T RAISE IT MORE THAN 5%.
11:43:53AM IT'S GREED.
11:43:55AM HOW DO WE FIGHT AGAINST GREED?
11:43:59AM HOW DO WE DO THAT?
11:44:02AM YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW ANGRY I AM RIGHT NOW.
11:44:04AM HOW DO YOU DO THAT?
11:44:07AM AND I AM SICK AND TIRED OF SAYING I AM SICK AND TIRED.
11:44:10AM AND I AM SICK AND TIRED OF JOE PERSON COMING IN HERE AND
11:44:15AM STEPPING ON -- ON PEOPLE.
11:44:17AM PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE A VOICE.
11:44:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:44:24AM [APPLAUSE]
11:44:28AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:44:29AM MY NAME IS NORMAN HARRIS.
11:44:31AM I AM A YOUNG PROFESSIONAL.
11:44:33AM I AM BASICALLY HERE TO EDUCATE MYSELF ON ISSUES AND HOW I
11:44:37AM CAN GET INVOLVED WITH THE ISSUES THAT AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY.
11:44:39AM I WANT TOP TAKE A PERSONAL PRIVILEGE TO ACKNOWLEDGE A YOUNG
11:44:42AM MAN 16 YEARS OLD.
11:44:44AM DAVID FRAZIER.
11:44:46AM HE DOES NOT THINK -- INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO WANT TO LEARN.
11:44:53AM HE IS SHADOWING ME TODAY.
11:44:55AM I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
11:44:56AM ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS FRAN TATE, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF
11:45:00AM THE JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND CRIME WATCH
11:45:03AM ASKED IF I WOULD PUBLISH A STATEMENT FOR HER.
11:45:05AM SHE STATES, GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
11:45:09AM TIME.
11:45:09AM I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ITEM 10 ON TODAY CITY COUNCIL'S
11:45:14AM AGENDA.
11:45:14AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION.
11:45:16AM AND COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, THANK YOU FOR SECONDING THE
11:45:25AM MOTION.
11:45:25AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU ARE CORRECT.
11:45:27AM THE PEOPLE ARE CRYING OUT.
11:45:29AM CITY COUNCIL MUST TAKE ACTION TO PREVENT THE CITIZENS OF
11:45:32AM TAMPA FROM FACING CONTINUOUS EVICTIONS.
11:45:35AM WE ARE DECENT HUMANS.
11:45:36AM AND WE MUST HELP ONE ANOTHER IN WHATEVER CAPACITY THAT WE
11:45:40AM CAN.
11:45:40AM IT IS A DEVASTATING FEELING.
11:45:43AM I KNOW FIRSTHAND.
11:45:44AM I SPENT A PORTION OF MY VACATION LAST WEEK ASSISTING MY SON
11:45:48AM AND HIS DOG TO RELOCATE TO MORE AFFORDABLE APARTMENT.
11:45:53AM YOU SEE HE IS THE ONE OF THE FORTUNATE ONES.
11:45:55AM THE MAJORITY OF THE TENANTS THAT ALL OF YOU -- THE MAJORITY
11:45:58AM OF THE TENANTS THAT ALL OF YOU HEAR FROM ARE NOT THAT
11:46:03AM FORTUNATE.
11:46:03AM THEY WILL ENDS UP ON THE STREETS.
11:46:07AM THERE MAYOR JANE CASTOR, COUNCILMEMBERS AND THE CITY LEGAL
11:46:12AM DEPARTMENTS, TAKE THE PROPER STEPS FOR THIS MATTER TO MAKE
11:46:15AM THE NOVEMBER BALLOT ALLOWING THE VOICES OF THE VOTERS TO BE
11:46:21AM HEARD.
11:46:21AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WE UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.
11:46:23AM AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK STATED, THE NATURE OF GOVERNMENT DOES
11:46:27AM NOT WORK THAT FAST.
11:46:28AM WE, THE COMMUNITY, OUT OF DESPERATION, ARE WILLING TO TAKE
11:46:33AM IT TO THE BALLOT BOX.
11:46:34AM THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
11:46:37AM AND HAVE A BLESSED DAY.
11:46:38AM AGAIN, THAT WAS PUBLISHED ON BEHALF OF MISS FRAN DEBATE
11:46:45AM THANK YOU.
11:46:45AM -- FRAN TATE.
11:46:50AM THANK YOU.
11:46:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:46:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:46:54AM I AM REVEREND WILLIE G. DIXON.
11:46:59AM I HAVE AN OFFICE IN DISTRICT 5, EAST TAMPA.
11:47:01AM AND I LISTEN TO PEOPLE EXPRESS A SITUATION THAT IS A
11:47:09AM PROBLEM.
11:47:09AM BUT I THINK EVERY PROBLEM CAN BE SOLVED.
11:47:12AM SO I WANT TO HAVE A WORKSHOP.
11:47:15AM I WANT TO INVITE ALL OF THE COUNCILPERSONS AND ALL OF THE
11:47:19AM LANDLORD OWNERS, NOT THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, TO COULD AM TO
11:47:23AM -- WITH THE -- WITH THE RENTERS AND LISTEN TO THEM.
11:47:27AM BECAUSE THREE MINUTES IS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE ANY
11:47:30AM DIALOGUE.
11:47:31AM AND HERE, I WANT THIS YOUNG MAN THAT IS 16 YEARS OF AGE TO
11:47:37AM KNOW THAT -- THAT THERE WAS SOME GREATNESS HERE BACK IN --
11:47:42AM IN 1820.
11:47:44AM IT WAS A BLACK MAN.
11:47:46AM AND I WANTS YOU TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL TAMPA
11:47:55AM HEIGHTS.
11:47:55AM AND TO SAY TAKE IT TO THE HEIGHTS, BUT IT WAS PROPERTY THAT
11:48:00AM WAS TAKEN FROM BLACK FOLKS.
11:48:02AM WHEN YOU GO TO -- WHEN YOU GO DOWN TO BE SEE WHERE THE --
11:48:07AM WHERE THEY PLAY HOCKEY.
11:48:08AM YOU KNOW THAT WAS THE GARRISON.
11:48:12AM IF YOU GO TO DOBERVILLE.
11:48:15AM MOST OF THE PLACES HERE -- AND I KNOW SOME OF OUR FRIENDS
11:48:18AM ARE NOT AS OLD AS I AM, I AM 90 YEARS OF AGE.
11:48:22AM I KNOW THE HISTORY OF TAMPA.
11:48:24AM I PRAY THAT WE COME TOGETHER AS ONE.
11:48:25AM AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.
11:48:27AM WE KNOW THAT SADOWSKI MUST BE TURNING OVER IN HIS GRAVE
11:48:34AM KNOWING THAT THAT MONEY THAT WAS DEDICATED FOR HOUSING.
11:48:38AM YOU HAVE THE POWER -- THIS IS AN ELECTION.
11:48:43AM YOU HAVE THE POW TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
11:48:45AM AND I THANK YOU FOR TAKING A BOLD STAND BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT
11:48:52AM THE ELECTION IS COMING UP.
11:48:53AM AND IF WE GET ENOUGH PEOPLE INVOLVED, WE CAN CHANGE THIS OLD
11:49:00AM SYSTEM BECAUSE, WHAT, IT IS THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTS THE
11:49:05AM ELECTED OFFICIALS.
11:49:08AM WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
11:49:10AM WE ARE GOING TO SHOW UP, WE ARE GOING TO VOTE, AND WE ARE
11:49:12AM GOING TO DEMANDS WHAT WE WANT FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS.
11:49:14AM BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM THE WHITE
11:49:19AM HOUSE TO THE COURTHOUSE ARE BEING PAID WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS.
11:49:24AM SO, THEREFORE, WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER AND FIND SOLUTIONS.
11:49:27AM IF WE CAN SEND A PERSON TO THE MOON AND BACK AND TO OTHER
11:49:32AM PLANETS, I KNOW WE CAN FIND A SOLUTION ABOUT THIS RENT
11:49:35AM PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE.
11:49:36AM AND I THANK YOU.
11:49:37AM AND LASTLY, TODAY IS MY SISTER'S BIRTHDAY.
11:49:40AM I WANT TO WISH MY SISTER JEAN MEEKS, A HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
11:49:45AM [APPLAUSE]
11:49:58AM >> HI, I'M ARLENE WASHINGTON.
11:50:01AM AND I HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
11:50:02AM AND I AM 77 YEARS OLD.
11:50:04AM AND I SAVED.
11:50:07AM TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO SAVE MONEY TO MOVE DOWN HERE THINKING
11:50:12AM THIS WAS A NICE PLACE TO MOVE TO.
11:50:13AM BUT NOW I HAVE TO SAVE MONEY AGAIN SO THAT I CAN MOVE AWAY
11:50:17AM FROM THIS PLACE.
11:50:19AM BECAUSE YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT US AT ALL.
11:50:21AM WE ARE SENIORS ON A FIXED INCOME.
11:50:24AM AND YOU COULD CARE LESS WHEN YOU WAKE UP IN THE MORNING.
11:50:27AM YOU GET PAID ALL THE TIME.
11:50:29AM WE GET PAID A MONTH.
11:50:31AM AND ALL OF OUR MONEY HAS TO GO INTO PAYING RENT, LIGHT BILLS
11:50:35AM AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE TO PAY.
11:50:37AM WE CAN'T SOMETIMES GET MEDICINE.
11:50:39AM SOMETIMES WE CAN'T EAT.
11:50:41AM AND SOMETIMES WE CAN'T BUY CLOTHES THAT WE MIGHT NEED.
11:50:45AM AND WE ARE HERE TO LET YOU NO KNOW THAT WE NEED YOUR HELP.
11:50:49AM AND WE VOTED FOR YOU.
11:50:51AM AND IF YOU WANT US TO VOTES FOR YOU AGAIN, YOU WILL NEED TO
11:50:54AM HELP US.
11:50:54AM OTHER THAN THAT, WE CAN FINDS SOMEBODY ELSE TO COME HELP US.
11:50:58AM BUT IT IS A SHAME THAT I MOVED DOWN HERE THINKING THAT IT IS
11:51:01AM GOING TO BE A-OKAY WHEN IT IS NOT.
11:51:04AM AND I AM KIND OF TIRED OF YOU PEOPLE TELLING ME WHAT I CAN
11:51:09AM CAN AND CANNOT DO, WHERE I CAN OR CANNOT GO.
11:51:12AM RIGHT NOW I AM READY TO MOVE OUT OF IS THIS COUNTRY, BECAUSE
11:51:15AM YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT ME.
11:51:16AM AND BEING BLACK IS REALLY NOT HELPING.
11:51:20AM AND I CAN'T CHANGE MY SKIN.
11:51:22AM AND I AM PROUD OF BEING BLACK.
11:51:24AM AND I WOULDN'T CHANGE IT FOR ANYTHING IN THE WORLD.
11:51:27AM BUT YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES FOR NOT TRYING TO
11:51:31AM HELP US.
11:51:31AM BY SAYING, YEAH, OKAY THIS.
11:51:34AM AND OKAY THAT.
11:51:34AM BUT YOU DO NOTHING.
11:51:36AM AND I HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE A YEAR AND A HALF.
11:51:39AM AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS BEEN HERE A HECK OF A LOT LONGER THAN
11:51:43AM ME.
11:51:43AM AND THEY ARE STILL TALKING OF THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER
11:51:47AM AND OVER AGAIN.
11:51:48AM YOU GOT TO STOP IT.
11:51:50AM YOU GOT TO STOP IT.
11:51:52AM WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DO ANYTHING TO HURT YOU.
11:51:57AM MOST OF US JUST WANT TO LIVE.
11:51:59AM I JUST WANT TO BE RETIERED.
11:52:00AM AND ENJOY MY LIFE, WHAT'S LEFT OF IT.
11:52:04AM AND I AM TIRED OF FIGHTING WITH YOU GUYS TO HAVE THAT KIND
11:52:07AM OF LIFE.
11:52:08AM AND IT IS GETTING TIRING.
11:52:10AM IT MAKES ME GET OLDER.
11:52:12AM AND I AM SICK OF BEING.OLDER AND I WANT TO RELAX AND LIVE A
11:52:20AM FEW MINUTES.
11:52:20AM AND IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO GET ABOVE AND DO SOMETHING FOR US.
11:52:28AM IT IS TIME SICK OF THE LANDLORD SAYING WE NEED THIS AND
11:52:34AM THAT.
11:52:34AM YOU CAN MAKE YOUR BILLS PAY.
11:52:36AM DO IT ALL THE TIME AND A DISEASE OUT HERE AND EVERYBODY
11:52:39AM RAISES THEIR RENT.
11:52:40AM RAISES GAS TAX AND ALL THAT STUFF.
11:52:45AM ENOUGH.
11:52:45AM YOU GOT TO STOP IT.
11:52:48AM AND LIKE NOW.
11:52:49AM THANK YOU.
11:52:50AM >> REAL SOON.
11:52:58AM REAL SOON.
11:52:59AM >> I WILL.
11:53:00AM GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
11:53:08AM MY NAME IS VERITA ANDRE.
11:53:11AM I AM WITH MADISON HIGHLAND.
11:53:12AM ME AND MY HUSBAND STAY THERE.
11:53:14AM WE MOVE THERE IN JANUARY.
11:53:16AM OUR RENT WENT UP IN APRIL.
11:53:18AM IT IS A SHAME THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN THERE A WHOLE YEAR AND
11:53:24AM OUR LEASE IS A YEAR.
11:53:25AM IT IS HARD RIGHT NOW WITH ALL OF US FROM MADISON ISLAND.
11:53:32AM AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IN AUGUST THIS MONTH OF GOING UP
11:53:35AM ON OUR RENT AGAIN.
11:53:38AM AND IT IS NOT RIGHT.
11:53:39AM THEY PUT NOTICES ON OUR DOORS AND LETTING YOU US KNOW WHAT
11:53:43AM THEY ARE GOING TO DO.
11:53:44AM THAT IS TWO TIMES IN A YEAR THEY ARE GOING UP ON OUR RENT.
11:53:48AM IT IS NO THE EVEN THE END OF OUR LEASE YET.
11:53:51AM THE END OF OUR LEASE IS IN JANUARY.
11:53:53AM AND IT IS NOT FAIR TO US.
11:53:55AM TWO OF US, AND WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.
11:53:58AM MY HUSBAND IS SICK WITH CANCER RIGHT NOW.
11:54:00AM I AM FIGHTING FOR MEDICINE FOR HIM THAT I HAVE TO PAY OUT OF
11:54:04AM MY POCKETS BECAUSE OF THIS.
11:54:05AM AND I DON'T THINK THAT IS FAIR TO US.
11:54:06AM THAT WE ARE SENIOR CITIZENS JUST WANTING TO RETIRE AND ENJOY
11:54:10AM OUR LIFE AND WE CAN'T.
11:54:11AM IT'S HARD.
11:54:14AM AND IT IS NOT RIGHT.
11:54:16AM THANK YOU, Y'ALL, FOR LISTENING.
11:54:19AM [CRYING]
11:54:23AM >> WE CAN NOT AFFORD IT.

11:54:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:54:32AM ANDY JOE SCAGLIONE, 3801 EHRLICH ROAD.
11:54:37AM TAMPA, FLORIDA.
11:54:39AM I GREW UP IN WEST TAMPA.
11:54:41AM ON BEACH STREET.
11:54:43AM BEEN A LANDLORD FOR OVER 38 YEARS.
11:54:45AM I'M NOT HERE FOR SELF-SERVING REASONS.
11:54:49AM I'M HERE BECAUSE I CARE.
11:54:52AM MY RENT HAPPENED TO BE WAY BELOW MARKET AND WILL CONTINUE TO
11:54:55AM BE AS LONG AS I'M A LANDLORD.
11:55:01AM I HAVEN'T FORGOT WHERE I CAME FROM.
11:55:03AM THESE GOOD PEOPLE THAT SPOKE ARE FAMILY, FRIENDS, NEED HELP
11:55:08AM NOW, BUT SADLY, BUT SADLY, RENT CONTROL WILL HURT THEM NOW
11:55:16AM AND MANY YEARS TO COME.
11:55:18AM THROUGH A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT MUCH DUE DILIGENCE THAT I HAVE
11:55:22AM DONE ON RENT CONTROL IT SOUNDS GOOD BUT IT DOES NOT AND HAS
11:55:26AM NOT WORKED IN OTHER CITIES.
11:55:28AM WE NEED TO INCENTIVIZE WAYS TO CREATE MORE AFFORDABLE
11:55:31AM HOUSING, NOT DISCOURAGE IT.
11:55:34AM NOT WITHSTANDING, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S 100% CHANCE THE CITY
11:55:39AM WILL LOSE IN COURT WHEN RENT CONTROL ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT.
11:55:43AM LET NOT WASTE MONEY IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM.
11:55:46AM LET'S HELP THESE PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT WAYS NOW, I MEAN NOW,
11:55:53AM WHILE WE HAVE RUNAWAY INFLATION.

11:55:55AM I'M GLAD THAT EVERYBODY IS HERE, HAS COME HERE, AND ALSO THE
11:55:59AM COUNCIL TO SHAKE THINGS UP.
11:56:02AM YES, SOMETIMES THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
11:56:04AM FOR GOOD THINGS TO HAPPEN.
11:56:05AM BUT LET'S BE STRATEGIC AND SMART IN THE WAY WE HELP OUR
11:56:10AM CITIZENS.
11:56:10AM AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE, AND I PLEASURE
11:56:14AM YOU ALL.
11:56:15AM APPRECIATE YOU ALL.
11:56:16AM THANK YOU.
11:56:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:56:18AM >> MY NAME IS --.
11:56:29AM I SUPPORT RENT CONTROL.
11:56:31AM I THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IT ON THE BALLOT.
11:56:33AM I FEEL LIKE THE SOLUTION IS NOT ON THE DEVELOPERS.
11:56:38AM WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS CRISIS RIGHT NOW.
11:56:41AM I THINK IN FACT WE CAN GO FARTHER THAN RENT CONTROL, PERHAPS
11:56:45AM SOCIAL HELP BEING BUILT BY THE CITY, AGAIN THANK YOU FOR
11:56:51AM PUTTING IT ON THE BALLOT.
11:56:53AM I'M IN SUPPORT OF RENT CONTROL.
11:56:54AM THANK YOU.
11:56:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:56:59AM IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO MAKE PUBLIC
11:57:05AM COMMENT?
11:57:08AM MS. DANIELLE, WHO DO WE HAVE ON THE LINE?

11:57:11AM >> THE FIRST SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
11:57:14AM MICHAEL, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:57:17AM YOU HAVE THREE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:57:19AM >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH AND I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA
11:57:24AM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
11:57:27AM I'M HERE TODAY TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT --
11:57:47AM THE LLC. [AUDIO DISTORTION]
11:58:05AM INCLUDING FULL CONSTRUCTION OUTSIDE THE WEST TAMPA AREA.
11:58:12AM THIS WILL CREATE HUNDREDS OF JOBS FOR RESIDENTS OF WEST
11:58:15AM TAMPA.
11:58:27AM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION THE OTHER
11:58:30AM COMPONENT ...[AUDIO DISTORTION] IN THE COMMUNITY.
11:58:38AM WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS IS THAT NOW THE CDC IS WORKING
11:58:49AM WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
11:59:05AM PEOPLE WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS CAN'T GET A JOB.
11:59:15AM THIS IS ABOUT JOB CREATION.
11:59:17AM WE ARE HAPPY TO BE A PARTNER IN IT.
11:59:22AM WE WANT TO THANK OUR COLLEAGUES FOR BRINGING TOGETHER WITH
11:59:27AM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IN WEST TAMPA.
11:59:32AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:59:32AM >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE ALEXANDAR
11:59:39AM KHALEL.
11:59:41AM IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:59:45AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:59:46AM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

11:59:48AM >> YES, MA'AM.
11:59:48AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:59:51AM MY NAME IS ALEXANDAR KHALEL.
11:59:52AM I AM A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS
11:59:56AM OF TAMPA BAY AS PRESIDENT.
11:59:57AM I AM HERE TO STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE HOUSING CRISIS.
12:00:02PM WE KNOCK ON DOORS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING EVERY SINGLE DAY.
12:00:08PM THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE WHEN YOU KNOCK ON DOORS IS THE NUMBER
12:00:10PM ONE ISSUE AROUND THE WATER COOLERS, AND RENTAL PROPERTIES
12:00:21PM ARE AN INVESTMENT, AND HOUSING IS A RIGHT.
12:00:30PM [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~] SOME KIND OF RENT STABILIZATION.
12:00:35PM WHEREVER THERE ARE PEOPLE, BAD ACTORS OUT THERE.
12:00:47PM [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
12:00:51PM I WANT TO KNOW IF THE LANDLORDS ARE BEGGING FOR PROFIT.
12:00:59PM YOU MIGHT ASK WHERE HAVE WE BEEN DOING THIS?
12:01:02PM WE ARE WORKING TWO OR THREE JOBS.
12:01:04PM WE ARE WORKING TO COME HERE AT THIS MEETING SO WE CAN
12:01:08PM REPRESENT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE KNOCKING ON DOORS EVERY SINGLE
12:01:14PM DAY.
12:01:18PM THIS IS EXACTLY HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS.
12:01:26PM [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
12:01:27PM WE WORK HARD ON THIS JUST LIKE WE WORKED ON TRANSPORTATION,
12:01:32PM JUST LIKE WE WORK ON ABORTION RIGHTS, WE ARE ALWAYS, ALWAYS
12:01:36PM WORKING.
12:01:39PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

12:01:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:01:40PM >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE DELMA
12:01:43PM RODRIGUEZ.
12:01:52PM HOWEVER, SHE DID NOT REGISTER SO SHE'S NOT SHOWING.
12:01:56PM SO THE NEXT SPEAKER IS NATHAN NAUGLE.
12:02:00PM IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
12:02:02PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO BE SPEAK.
12:02:04PM >> MY NAME IS NATHAN NAUGLE.
12:02:07PM I'M A RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
12:02:08PM ALSO REGIONAL MANAGER FOR MULTIFAMILY COMPANY THAT HAS SIX
12:02:14PM COMMUNITIES IN THE GREATER TAMPA BAY AREA.
12:02:16PM WE EMPLOY THESE GREAT CITIZENS AND PROVIDE APARTMENT HOMES
12:02:21PM FOR ABOUT 2500 HARD WORKING FAMILIES.
12:02:24PM I AM HERE TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO THE RENT CONTROL
12:02:26PM ORDINANCE IN TAMPA.
12:02:27PM THERE ARE COUNTLESS EXAMPLES AND DATA I CAN PROVIDE AS TO
12:02:31PM REASONS WHY RENT HAS INCREASED NOT JUST IN TAMPA, IN
12:02:34PM FLORIDA, BUT THROUGHOUT OUR NATION.
12:02:35PM ONE EXAMPLE I WANT TO SHARE IS FOR A COMMUNITY OF MINE HERE
12:02:38PM IN THE HEART OF TAMPA, THIS COMMUNITY SAW HUGE INCREASES IN
12:02:42PM OPERATING EXPENSES WHICH INCLUDE PAYROLL, SUPPLIES,
12:02:45PM UTILITIES, INSURANCES, TAXES, AND CONTRACT SERVICES SUCH AS
12:02:49PM SECURITY, POOL CLEANING, LANDSCAPING, ELEVATOR MANAGEMENT,
12:02:53PM AND MUCH, MUCH MORE.
12:02:54PM PAYROLL IS UP 9% YEAR OVER YEAR.

12:02:57PM SUPPLIES 26%.
12:02:58PM TAXES, AND THIS IS EYE OPENING, SAW A 50% INCREASE FOR
12:03:04PM $766,000 YEAR OVER YEAR.
12:03:06PM ALL OF THIS TO SAY OUR OPERATING EXPENSES FOR JUST THIS ONE
12:03:10PM COMMUNITY SAW A 21% INCREASE OVERALL YEAR OVER YEAR.
12:03:13PM THIS IS THE SAME FOR MANY OTHER APARTMENT COMMUNITIES HERE
12:03:16PM IN TAMPA.
12:03:17PM MAYOR JANE CASTOR MENTIONED IN HER OPENING STATEMENT
12:03:20PM INFLATION IS DRIVING UP THE COST FOR EVERYONE.
12:03:23PM AND APARTMENT COMMUNITIES ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM THIS.
12:03:26PM INFLATION IS THE HIGHEST IN 40 YEARS.
12:03:29PM THE ANSWER ISN'T RENT CONTROL.
12:03:30PM THE ANSWER IS ADDRESSING INFLATION AND SUPPLY.
12:03:34PM JUST TODAY I SAW ON THE NEWS THAT PRICES SUCH AS TICKETS AND
12:03:38PM MERCHANDISE AND ACCOMMODATIONS UP 4,000% YEAR OVER YEAR AND
12:03:43PM HOUSING COSTS UP 19.4% FOR QUARTER TWO.
12:03:46PM THE REASON?
12:03:47PM LOW INVENTORY.
12:03:48PM THIS SEGUES ME INTO ANOTHER POINT.
12:03:51PM WHILE INFLATION ACCOUNT FOR A LARGE AMOUNT IT ALSO IS SUPPLY
12:03:55PM AND DEMAND.
12:03:57PM WE HAVE A HOUSING DEFICIENCY HERE IN TAMPA.
12:04:01PM WHEN SUPPLY IS MORE THAN DEMAND PRICES ARE LORE.
12:04:04PM WHEN DEMAND IS MORE THAN SUPPLY, PRICES ARE HIGH.
12:04:09PM HOW DOES THAT COMBAT TO INCREASED RISING AS A RESULT OF HIGH

12:04:13PM DEMAND AND LOW SUPPLY?
12:04:15PM I CAN ASSURE YOU IT WASN'T TO OPPOSE PRICING CONTROL BUT MY
12:04:21PM MEETING THE DEMAND ORGANICALLY BY STABILIZING.
12:04:24PM WE DON'T SEE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IMPOSING PRICE CONTROL
12:04:27PM ON GAS, GROCERIES, SERVICE GOODS, INTEREST RATES AND MUCH
12:04:31PM MORE.
12:04:31PM THEY UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMY IS FLUID AND EVER EVOLVING.
12:04:36PM A SHORT PERIOD WITHIN THE LIFE SPAN OF THE ECONOMY, IT'S
12:04:40PM FINDING THE ROOT PROBLEM AND FIXING IT, NOT PUTTING A
12:04:43PM BAND-AID ON IT.
12:04:45PM BY IMPOSING RENT CONTROL ORDINANCES YOU WILL STUNT THE
12:04:48PM GROWTH OF OUR CITY.
12:04:49PM INVESTORS AND DEVELOPERS WILL NOT BE ATTRACTED TO A CITY IN
12:04:52PM WHICH THEY CAN'T GET A RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT DUE TO
12:04:54PM RENT CONTROL MEASURES.
12:04:55PM SO ALL THE JOBS THAT COME WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT, THE MILLIONS
12:04:58PM OF DOLLARS IN TAXES, INFRASTRUCTURE AND FEES THAT THE CITY
12:05:01PM IS COUNTING ON AND INCREASED INVENTORY, IT WILL GO AWAY. IN
12:05:05PM CONCLUSION THIS ORDINANCE IS NOT THE SOLUTION.
12:05:08PM I BEG EVERYONE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE BASICS AND TRUST YOUR
12:05:12PM GUT.
12:05:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:05:16PM THANK YOU, SIR.
12:05:16PM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
12:05:18PM >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE JEAN

12:05:21PM STROHMEYER.
12:05:22PM JEAN, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
12:05:25PM YOU HAVE THREE MONTHS SPEAK.
12:05:26PM >> MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER, 53 YEAR RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
12:05:34PM I WAS GOING T TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
12:05:36PM AND WHILE I AM TALKING ABOUT THIS RENT CONTROL, IF YOU
12:05:40PM NOTICE WHO IS FOR IT, IT'S SOCIALISTS FOR AMERICA.
12:05:44PM AMERICA WILL NEVER SHALL A SOCIALIST COUNTRY.
12:05:49PM AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RULING CLASS OR THE
12:05:51PM LANDLORDS.
12:05:52PM THE LADY, BEAUTIFUL YOUNG LADY IN THE RED WITH THE HAT, SHE
12:05:59PM HAS MANY HOUSES, SHE SAID, SO SHE'S ALSO A RULING CLASS,
12:06:03PM JUST SO YOU KNOW.
12:06:05PM POINT THAT OUT.
12:06:08PM THERE'S SO MUCH TO GO THROUGH WHAT I LISTENED TO SO FAR.
12:06:14PM THE HOUSING ADVOCATE PROGRAM IS JUST ANOTHER AGENCY THAT WE
12:06:18PM DON'T NEED.
12:06:22PM THE ABORTION ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY COUNCIL, I HEAR
12:06:30PM PEOPLE SAY THAT ROE V. WADE BEING OVERTURNED, IT TOOK PEOPLE
12:06:37PM BACK 50 YEARS AGO WHEN THAT WENT INTO EFFECT SO NOW THE
12:06:40PM STATE WHICH IS WHAT OUR CONSTITUTION IS ABOUT IS THEY HAVE A
12:06:44PM RIGHT, THE STATES HAVE THEIR OWN RIGHTS.
12:06:46PM THAT'S WHAT OUR CONSTITUTION IS ABOUT.
12:06:48PM THAT IS IN A DEMOCRACY, WE ARE -- NOT DEMOCRACY, REPUBLIC.
12:06:58PM SORRY.

12:06:59PM ANYWAY, LET'S SEE, THE DRAFT ORDINANCE ON HOUSING EMERGENCY,
12:07:04PM IT'S JUST ABOUT POWER.
12:07:06PM SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GAIN MORE POWER FROM THAT.
12:07:09PM PEOPLE DO NOT TRUST BIG GOVERNMENT AT ALL.
12:07:13PM SORRY TO SAY BUT IT'S SAD.
12:07:19PM WE HAVE POLICE GRANTS.
12:07:20PM WHAT WAS I GOING TO SAY ABOUT THAT?
12:07:23PM OH, WHY CAN'T WE USE THOSE FUNDS IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
12:07:26PM I WOULD LIKE SOME OF THAT.
12:07:27PM THE PARKS, 14.
12:07:30PM THAT'S BEEN NEGLECTED SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR THE LAST 30
12:07:33PM YEARS IN THIS AREA NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:07:35PM CAN WE GIVE SO OF THAT PARK MONEY TO GADSDEN PARK?
12:07:40PM AND LET'S SEE, I AM GOING TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
12:07:46PM I APOLOGIZE.
12:07:47PM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL DO.
12:07:48PM OH, INCREASES IN SALARY.
12:07:50PM I DO SUPPORT THAT BUT NOT RIGHT NOW WHILE PEOPLE ARE HAVING
12:07:53PM PROBLEMS MAKING ENDS MEET AND HOUSING.
12:07:56PM SO I DON'T THINK ANY INCREASE IN ANYBODY'S SALARY RIGHT NOW,
12:08:01PM ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE PAYING FOR IT.
12:08:04PM YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY AND BE BLESSED.
12:08:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:08:07PM >>THE CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE HEATHER CALDERONE.
12:08:13PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

12:08:14PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
12:08:16PM MY NAME IS HEATHER CALDERONE. I'M A MEMBER OF --
12:08:21PM ASSOCIATION.
12:08:21PM MY FAMILY LIVED IN PINELLAS COUNTY FOR OVER 25 YEARS.
12:08:24PM HOWEVER I ACTIVELY WORK IN HILLSBOROUGH.
12:08:26PM I SPENT 14 YEARS AS A MULTIFAMILY MANAGER, BEEN ON THE FIRE
12:08:31PM SIDE FOR THE PAST 16 YEARS.
12:08:33PM I AM ACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH THE NATIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING
12:08:36PM MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION CALLED MAMA.
12:08:38PM I ALSO SERVE ON THE FAA AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY.
12:08:44PM I WORK FOR A COMPANY CALLED RESIN THAT PROVIDES SOFTWARE
12:08:49PM MANAGEMENT FOR AFFORDABLE COMMUNITIES.
12:08:51PM BACK IN 2007 OUR PRESIDENT WAS A SINGLE MOTHER, RECOGNIZED
12:08:57PM HOW HARD THEY WORE AND HIKE HER EDUCATION, HOSPITALITY,
12:09:03PM GENERAL WORKFORCE, BUILT A COMPANY TO HELP WORKERS GET ON
12:09:08PM THE FAST TRACK.
12:09:13PM WE ARE NOT THE ENEMY.
12:09:14PM BECAUSE OF THE COMMITMENT TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING MARKET
12:09:16PM WE HAVE A DEEP UNDERSTANDING AND UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE OF
12:09:19PM LONG-TERM EFFECTS OF RENT CONTROL AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO
12:09:21PM LOOK AT TODAY.
12:09:22PM ONCE YOU BUTT THIS IN ACTION, IT STAYS IN ACTION OF THE
12:09:26PM THERE'S A LOT OF EMOTION AROUND THIS ISSUE BUT WE NEED TO
12:09:28PM LOOK AT WHAT WILL ACTUALLY HELP TODAY.
12:09:31PM ON THE SURFACE IT SOUND LIKE A GREAT SOLUTION BUT IT'S A

12:09:34PM VERY SHORT TERM ACTION THAT HAS A DEROGATORY LONG-TERM
12:09:37PM EFFECT THAT WILL HAVE AN IMMEDIATE -- WE ALREADY TALKED
12:09:43PM ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN ST. PAUL.
12:09:45PM 82% DROP IN MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS AFFERENT CONTROL.
12:09:51PM THIS IS 2021.
12:09:54PM A SURVEY, 58% OF COMPANIES SAID THEY WOULD AVOID CITIES WITH
12:09:58PM RENT CONTROL.
12:10:01PM IT IMPACTS JOBS IN THESE COMMUNITIES.
12:10:03PM I AGREE WE DO -- DO NOT NEED TO FOCUS ON DEVELOPMENT OF MORE
12:10:08PM LUXURY APARTMENTS.
12:10:09PM THE SOLUTIONS IS TO BUILD MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TO
12:10:12PM WORK TOGETHER.
12:10:14PM RENT CONTROL IS NOT THE ANSWER.
12:10:15PM PLEASE PROTECT THE SADOWSKI AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND.
12:10:21PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
12:10:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:10:34PM >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE KRISTIE
12:10:36PM HICKMAN.
12:10:38PM IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
12:10:40PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
12:10:41PM >> HI.
12:10:43PM MY NAME IS KRISTIE HICKMAN, AND I HAVE BEEN IN THE PROPERTY
12:10:47PM MANAGEMENT INDUSTRY JUST IN TAMPA BAY ALONE FOR THE LAST 22
12:10:51PM YEARS, AND I HAVE WORKED FOR SEVERAL DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT
12:10:54PM COMPANIES AND OWNERS, AND OUR GOAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO KEEP

12:10:57PM OUR RESIDENTS IN THE HOME AND TO PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICE
12:11:02PM THAT WE CAN FOR OUR RESIDENCE.
12:11:04PM AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST EVEN YEAR WE ARE SEEING SUCH
12:11:08PM A DOWN-SHIFT, WE DID SEND OUT SOME INCREASES AND STARTED
12:11:16PM INCREASING OUR RENT, WHEN INFLATION STARTED RISING, WE WERE
12:11:19PM FORCED TO, LIKE WHAT THE SPEAKER PREVIOUSLY SAID, ALL OF OUR
12:11:24PM SUPPLIES, OUR PAYROLL TAXES, OUR INSURANCE, OUR UTILITIES
12:11:28PM WITH PEOPLE WORKING HOME A LOT INCREASED SO DRASTICALLY SO
12:11:35PM IT DEFINITELY SUPPORTS THE INCREASE IN OUR RENEWALS AND OUR
12:11:38PM MARKET RENT.
12:11:39PM EVEN NOW WE ARE START TOGETHER SEE FROM LAST YEAR AN 8%
12:11:42PM DECREASE IN THE RENEWALS THAT WE ARE SENDING OUT AND ARE
12:11:45PM PROJECTED TO SEE ANOTHER 8% NEXT YEAR.
12:11:50PM WE ARE ALREADY ON THAT DOWNWARD SPRING. IF WE CONTINUE WITH
12:11:53PM THIS TREND, WE WOULD NOT HAVE A NEED FOR THE RENT -- TO THE
12:11:59PM RENT STABILIZATION PROGRAM.
12:12:00PM WE WOULD -- BECAUSE WE STILL WANT TO PROVIDE THE HOUSING
12:12:06PM THAT WE HAVE BEEN CONTINUING TO PROVIDE OUR RESIDENTS AND WE
12:12:11PM CAN'T DO THAT IF WE CAN'T AFFORD TO KEEP THE HOMES AND TO
12:12:14PM KEEP THE HOME INTACT AND REPLACE THINGS TO HELP US OR TO
12:12:20PM KEEP OUR POOLS MAINTAINED AND OUR LAWNS MAINTAINED.
12:12:23PM WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS FOR OUR RESIDENCE.
12:12:26PM WE DO OFFER RENEWAL CONVERSATIONS IN OUR OFFICE.
12:12:29PM I OVERSEE-TWO, AND IF SOMEONE COMES IN WITH AN OFFER AND
12:12:36PM THEY WANT TO TALK TO ME, LIKE LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN

12:12:40PM DO, THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS SET IN STONE.
12:12:42PM IT MIGHT BE NEGOTIABLE AND MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THEY
12:12:45PM WOULD LIKE US TO FIX, JUST TO ADD THAT VALUE.
12:12:49PM WE DO NOT WANT TO DISPLACE RESIDENTS.
12:12:51PM AND IF WE IMPOSE RENT CONTROL WE ARE GOING TO LOSE SO MANY
12:12:55PM POSITIONS, JOBS ON THE MARKET, OUR SUPPLIERS ARE NOT GOING
12:12:59PM TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THEIR STAFF BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO
12:13:02PM BE ABLE TO PAY THEM IF WE CUT BACK WHAT WE ARE ASKING OF
12:13:06PM THEM.
12:13:12PM I HAVE TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS THAT ARE RENTERS, AND THEY ARE
12:13:15PM BESIDES THEMSELVES WITH THEIR INCREASES.
12:13:18PM RENT CONTROL IS NOT THE ANSWER.
12:13:19PM I AGREE WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SAID THAT PRIOR TO ME.
12:13:25PM BUT I REALLY DO FEEL THAT WOULD BE A GREAT START, WE NEED
12:13:28PM MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
12:13:29PM RENT CONTROL IS NOT THE ANSWER.
12:13:31PM I DO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME.
12:13:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:13:35PM >>THE CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE STEPHANIE POYNOR.
12:13:41PM IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
12:13:44PM THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
12:13:45PM >> GOOD MORNING.
12:13:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
12:13:51PM >> FIRST, SHOWING UP ABOUT THE EXPERTISE IN HOUSING.
12:14:04PM THEY ARE EXPERTS.

12:14:05PM THEY ARE POINTING OUT SOLUTIONS THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
12:14:11PM IT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED SIX MONTHS AGO.
12:14:13PM THE HOUSING ISSUE ISN'T SOMETHING I SPEND A LOT OF TIME
12:14:16PM TALKING ABOUT WITH COUNCIL, AND LET THOSE WHO SPEND THEIR
12:14:21PM TIME AND ENERGY RESOURCE IT LEAD THE MARCH AND I JUST BRING
12:14:26PM UP THE REAR.
12:14:26PM I SUPPORT THE MOVEMENT TOWARDS PROBLEM SOLVING.
12:14:28PM I ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THE FOLKS WHO HAVE SHOWN UP TO SPEAK
12:14:32PM AGAINST THE PLAN BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY SHOULD BE WORKING
12:14:35PM TOWARDS A BETTER SOLUTION.
12:14:39PM PROPERTY MANAGERS AND OHS IN THE HOUSING INDUSTRY NEED TO BE
12:14:42PM AT THE TABLE WORKING ON A SOLUTION.
12:14:45PM NOT JUST CITY STAFF.
12:14:47PM A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THIS IS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT'S
12:14:51PM DEFINITION OF LUXURY HOUSING.
12:14:58PM OVER A THOUSAND A MONTH.
12:15:00PM THAT'S A THIRD.
12:15:01PM THERE ARE TWO LISTINGS AT $1,000 A MONTH.
12:15:05PM NOTHING BELOW THAT.
12:15:08PM IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS, ONLY 22 LISTINGS HAVE BEEN RENTED AT
12:15:13PM $1,000 A MONTH OR LESS.
12:15:15PM AND A ONE-BEDROOM APARTMENT.
12:15:21PM YOU SEE HOW THE NUMBERS ARE SKEWED AND YET NOBODY IN THE
12:15:25PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT TALKS TO THEM ABOUT HOW THOSE NUMBERS ARE
12:15:27PM INCORRECT.

12:15:28PM SO I WOULD ARGUE THAT IT IS TIME FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE THE
12:15:32PM PROFESSIONALS IN THE HOUSING INDUSTRY WHO HAVE THROWN DATA
12:15:36PM AND NUMBERS AT YOU TODAY TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE.
12:15:40PM WE NEED TO HAVE A BRAINSTORMING SESSION, A TASK FORCE FOR
12:15:45PM HOUSING.
12:15:46PM WE HAVE IT FOR ALL OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY.
12:15:48PM WHY AREN'T THESE FOLKS AT THE TABLE WORKING ON A SOLUTION?
12:15:54PM AS A LANDLORD AND PROPERTY MANAGER I UNDERSTAND TAX
12:15:57PM INCREASES, INSURANCE PREMIUMS.
12:15:59PM OH, MY GOD, DON'T TALK TO ME ABOUT INSURANCE.
12:16:01PM INCREASES IN REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.
12:16:04PM MY PERSONAL PROPERTIES ARE ALL RENTED AT BELOW MARKET RATE.
12:16:10PM I'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO.
12:16:12PM I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THIS IS PENDING LEGISLATION
12:16:15PM WILL CAUSE ANOTHER BOONDOGGLE.
12:16:18PM I DO THINK IF STAKEHOLDERS AT THE TABLE WORK ON A SOLUTION
12:16:24PM WITH THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH THE NEEDS DAILY ALONG
12:16:27PM WITH THE FOLKS WHO ARE THE PROFESSIONALS.
12:16:30PM WE NEED THE PROFESSIONALS AT THE TABLE.
12:16:32PM COUNCIL, PLEASE INVITE THESE PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE HERE TO
12:16:35PM CRITICIZE THE PROCESS TO WORK AT THE SAME TABLE WITH US.
12:16:41PM MAKING THE CHANGES WE NEED IN OUR CITY.
12:16:43PM I WILL ALSO NOTE THE CMP IS NECESSARY.
12:16:47PM THIS IS THE SECOND TIME IN 30 DAYS.
12:16:49PM WE NEED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK FROM HOME WHEN WE DON'T

12:16:54PM FEEL WELL OR WE HAVE OTHER OBLIGATIONS IN OUR LIVES.
12:16:57PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL.
12:16:58PM HAVE A NICE DAY.
12:16:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:17:00PM >>THE CLERK: THAT IS GOING TO CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
12:17:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:17:05PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:17:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO, BEFORE WE CONTINUE, I
12:17:09PM KNOW IT'S PUSHING LUNCH TIME, OPEN THE 10:30 PUBLIC
12:17:13PM HEARINGS, ESPECIALLY ITEM 45.
12:17:16PM I SEE MR. McLAREN, IF YOU ARE WAITING HERE.
12:17:19PM IT'S JUST FOR A CONTINUANCE, AUGUST 25th?
12:17:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND I AGREE WITH THAT.
12:17:25PM I WAS GOING TO ASK SOMEONE TO DO THAT.
12:17:27PM WE ARE APPROACHING A LUNCH TIME.
12:17:29PM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A HARD STOP AT 12:30.
12:17:32PM CHIEF, INSTEAD OF CALLING STAFF BARK, I WOULD LIKE TO GO
12:17:36PM THROUGH THE AGENDA ITEMS, THE OTHER ITEMS IN WHICH OUR
12:17:42PM COMMITTEES -- EXCUSE ME, COMMITTEE REPORTS, AND CONSENT
12:17:47PM AGENDA.
12:17:47PM THERE I GO.
12:17:48PM AND THEN AFTER WE COME BACK FROM LUNCH GO AHEAD AND START
12:17:52PM STAFF REPORTS S.THAT ALL RIGHT WITH YOU?
12:17:54PM IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH COUNCIL?
12:17:56PM >> YES, SIR.

12:17:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:17:58PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:17:59PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:18:01PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:18:02PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:18:03PM THANK YOU.
12:18:04PM LET'S HEAR A CONTINUANCE FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 45.
12:18:09PM PETITIONER, ARE YOU HERE?
12:18:10PM >>SCOTT MCLAREN: MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION,
12:18:20PM THANK YOU FOR HEARING FROM US.
12:18:23PM SCOTT McLAREN.
12:18:24PM I APOLOGIZE.
12:18:25PM 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD HERE ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER OF
12:18:28PM THE BUILDING.
12:18:29PM I THINK ACTUALLY THE PETITIONER IN THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE IS
12:18:33PM THE CITY, BUT THE CITY ATTORNEY AND MYSELF ON BEHALF OF THE
12:18:39PM OWNER ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE OF THIS MATTER UNTIL THE
12:18:44PM 25th OF THE MONTH, IF POSSIBLE.
12:18:49PM THANK YOU FOR HEARING FROM US NOW AS OPPOSED TO THIS
12:18:54PM AFTERNOON.
12:18:54PM THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
12:18:56PM AUGUST 25th IS VERY, VERY FULL.
12:19:00PM THE CITY CLERK HAS INFORMED ME THAT WE ARE FULL.
12:19:05PM WOULD YOU MIND PUTTING THIS OFF TILL SEPTEMBER 1st?
12:19:09PM >>SCOTT MCLAREN: IF THAT'S THE EARLIEST AVAILABLE, THEN

12:19:13PM THAT'S WHEN WE NEED TO DO IT, YES, SIR.
12:19:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD PREFER THAT.
12:19:16PM AGAIN THE DECISION IS UP TO YOU.
12:19:17PM >>SCOTT MCLAREN: WE WANT TO DO WHAT'S REASONABLE IN THE
12:19:21PM EYES OF CITY COUNCIL.
12:19:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND I THANK YOU.
12:19:25PM IS THERE ANYONE WITHIN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO
12:19:28PM THE CONTINUANCE ONLY ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 45, FILE HPC
12:19:34PM 22-01-C?
12:19:36PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE ONE THING BEFORE YOU, YOU DO ALSO NEED
12:19:42PM A TIME CERTAIN.
12:19:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 1:30.
12:19:46PM WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:19:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM FILE HPC
12:19:52PM 22-01-C TO SEPTEMBER 1st AT 1:30 P.M.
12:19:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND?
12:19:58PM WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:20:00PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:20:02PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:20:04PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
12:20:09PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:20:09PM >>SCOTT MCLAREN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND
12:20:12PM COUNCIL.
12:20:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE GOING TO GO TO CONSENT AGENDA.
12:20:18PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, CAN YOU READ 11 THROUGH 13?

12:20:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HEREBY MOVE ITEMS 11 THROUGH 13.
12:20:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:20:31PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:20:34PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:20:35PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:20:39PM COUNCILMAN GUDES?
12:20:40PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:20:41PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:20:43PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:20:44PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
12:20:46PM THANK YOU.
12:20:48PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:20:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 15 THROUGH 22.
12:20:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
12:20:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:20:56PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:20:58PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:21:00PM THANK YOU.
12:21:01PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:21:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE ITEMS 23 THROUGH 28.
12:21:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:21:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:21:10PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
12:21:12PM THANK YOU.
12:21:15PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

12:21:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, AND MY AGENDA IS NOT COMING UP ON
12:21:20PM MY OTHER SCREEN HERE.
12:21:22PM COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE ME THE NUMBERS, SIR?
12:21:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEY ARE 29 THROUGH 32.
12:21:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:21:30PM I MOVE 29 THROUGH 32.
12:21:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:21:36PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:21:38PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:21:39PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:21:41PM THANK YOU.
12:21:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 33 THROUGH
12:21:47PM 35.
12:21:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
12:21:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:21:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:21:53PM AYE.
12:21:54PM ALL RIGHT.
12:21:54PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:21:55PM WE DO HAVE THESE AGENDA ITEMS 36, 37 AND 38.
12:22:01PM IF --
12:22:02PM >>> I WOULD LIKE TO SET THEM FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
12:22:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MECHANIK, ARE YOU HERE?
12:22:15PM >>DAVID MECHANIK: DAVID MECHANIK FOR THE RECORD.
12:22:18PM I AM REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT ON ITEM 38, A NEIGHBOR HAS

12:22:26PM FILED A PETITION FOR REVIEW, AND DUE TO CONTRACTUAL
12:22:32PM OBLIGATIONS OF MY CLIENT, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT
12:22:39PM YOU SET THIS FOR SEPTEMBER 15 AS OPPOSED TO OCTOBER 6 DUE TO
12:22:44PM THE FACT THAT WOULD PUT MY CLIENT BEYOND THE CONTRACT DATE
12:22:50PM ON THE PROPERTY.
12:22:53PM WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THAT.
12:22:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:22:57PM MOVE TO SET ITEM NUMBER 38, DE 1-22-197-C TO SEPTEMBER
12:23:04PM 15th AT 1:30 P.M.
12:23:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:23:09PM SECONDED BID COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:23:10PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:23:12PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
12:23:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN I WOULD LIKE TO SET ITEMS 36 AND
12:23:15PM 37 AS ALREADY SET.
12:23:18PM >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE]
12:23:28PM WE ALREADY HAVE TWO NOW.
12:23:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: UNLESS YOU WANT TO WAIVE YOUR RULES,
12:23:32PM BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT AUTHORITY TO DO.
12:23:34PM YOU COULD HAVE -- YOU HAVE BY POLICY, YOU ARE LIMITING THE
12:23:39PM REVIEW HEARINGS TO TWO PER MEETING.
12:23:41PM SO IF YOU DO WHAT YOU PROPOSE TO DO ON THE AGENDA, SEPTEMBER
12:23:47PM 15TH YOU WOULD HAVE THREE REVIEW HEARINGS.
12:23:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LEAVE IT AT TWO JUST IN CASE, SO THEN I
12:23:55PM MOVE ITEM NUMBER 36, ARC 22-180-C TO OCTOBER 6TH, 2022, AT

12:24:02PM 1:30 P.M.
12:24:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED
12:24:04PM BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:24:06PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:24:07PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
12:24:09PM I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN?
12:24:12PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
12:24:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
12:24:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NONE OPPOSED.
12:24:16PM OKAY.
12:24:16PM FILE VRB-22-24-C.
12:24:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE] IT STATES IN THE BACK
12:24:26PM WHAT IT IS.
12:24:26PM AND IT'S PROPERTY THAT I MANAGES NEXT DOOR TO THIS, JUST IN
12:24:32PM AN ABUNDANCE TO CAUTION, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS JUST SETTING A
12:24:35PM DATE.
12:24:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MAKE A MOTION TO SET 37, VRB
12:24:40PM 2022-24-C FOR OCTOBER 6TH AT 1:30 P.M.
12:24:47PM OCTOBER 6th.
12:24:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
12:24:50PM SECOND.
12:24:51PM I KNOW, I KNOW.
12:24:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:24:56PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:24:58PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:24:59PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:25:01PM ALL RIGHT.
12:25:02PM IT IS NOW 12:30.
12:25:04PM SHALL WE SAY 2:00?
12:25:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
12:25:09PM SO MOVED.
12:25:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE IN RECESS.
12:25:12PM [RECESS]
12:25:13PM
1:56:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE MEETING OF AUGUST 4th, 2022, BACK
2:01:10PM IN SESSION.
2:01:11PM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
2:01:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
2:01:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
2:01:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
2:01:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
2:01:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
2:01:19PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
2:01:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
2:01:23PM I HAVE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE.
2:01:30PM MR. SPEARMAN, I BELIEVE THAT YOU AND CHIEF BENNETT WOULD
2:01:34PM LIKE TO HAVE A FEW WORDS BEFOREHAND.
2:01:36PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
2:01:55PM >> EQUAL OPPORTUNITY.
2:01:57PM I WANT TO PUT A FEW THINGS ON THE ELMO FOR YOU.

2:02:00PM AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SHOW YOU, SO THIS IS NEW
2:02:04PM INITIATIVES THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN EMBARKING ON, AND
2:02:07PM INVOLVES BUILDERS RISK INSURANCE.
2:02:09PM SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, BUILDERS RISK INSURANCE IS ACTUALLY
2:02:13PM INSURANCE THAT COVERS ANY RISK OF LOSS OR DAMAGE THAT A
2:02:17PM CONSTRUCTION FIRM MIGHT HAVE ON A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
2:02:22PM WE DO REQUIRE ALL OF OUR CITY CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS TO
2:02:26PM HAVE AT RISK, AND SO THE QUESTION ASKED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES,
2:02:31PM DO WE HAVE ANY MINORITY INSURANCE COMPANIES OR CERTIFIED
2:02:37PM FIRMS?
2:02:38PM SO WE LOOKED AT THAT.
2:02:40PM WE HAVE A CHANGE TO COME TOGETHER INCLUDING PURCHASING, RISK
2:02:43PM MANAGEMENT, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, EQUAL BUSINESS
2:02:46PM OPPORTUNITY,
2:02:47PM AND LEGAL TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN GO ABOUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE
2:02:53PM INCLUSION ON THIS PARTICULAR AREA AS FAR AS SMALL MINORITY
2:02:58PM TO APPLY AND CONSTRUCT THE CONTRACT.
2:03:00PM SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE PROCESS, WE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED RSA
2:03:12PM FOR BUILDERS RISK INSURANCE REQUIREMENT.
2:03:14PM WE RELEASED THAT TO ONLY CITY OF TAMPA CERTIFIED FIRMS.
2:03:18PM WE DID RECEIVE RESPONSES.
2:03:21PM ONE OF THOSE WAS NONRESPONSIVE.
2:03:24PM WE HAVE TWO OTHERS THAT WERE RESPONSIVE.
2:03:26PM AND THOSE FIRMS ARE HOUSTON AND ASSOCIATES, AND A-PLUS
2:03:32PM INSURANCE.

2:03:32PM AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, A-PLUS IS CURRENTLY CERTIFIED
2:03:37PM WOMAN-OWNED BUSINESS AND THEY ARE A SUBCONTRACTOR NOW
2:03:40PM THROUGH OUR PROPERTY CASUALTY INSURANCE PROVIDER.
2:03:44PM SO THESE TWO FIRMS WERE SELECTED, SO THEY WILL BE INCLUDED
2:03:51PM IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING THE PROJECT TASK WORK SHEET IN TERMS
2:03:55PM OF GOALS FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
2:04:07PM AND AS BIDS COME IN, EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY OFFICE
2:04:11PM REVIEWED THOSE BID RESPONSES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE
2:04:15PM COMPLIANT IN TERMS OF A GOOD FAITH EFFORT AND ALSO IN TERMS
2:04:19PM OF MEETING THE GOALS SET FOR BUILDERS INSURANCE.
2:04:26PM THE SECOND UPDATE WE WANT TO GIVE TO YOU IS ON OUR JOB ORDER
2:04:32PM CONTRACT, AND THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT WE PUT IN PLACE TO
2:04:36PM HANDLE SMALL TO MEDIUM SIZE REIGN OH OVATIONS CONSTRUCTION
2:04:42PM PROJECTS.
2:04:42PM SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS
2:04:52PM THAT COUNCIL ASKED US TO DO, SO WE STARTED THE CONTRACT IN
2:04:55PM 2020.
2:04:56PM WE HAVE ABOUT 1.7 MILLION FOR THE PROJECT.
2:05:00PM THE PARTICIPATION IS ONLY ABOUT 1.46.
2:05:08PM SO YOU SEE IN 2021 THE VALUE OF THE CONTRACT, THE AMOUNT OF
2:05:12PM PROJECTS, THE WORK ORDERS, WAS ABOUT 2.3 MILLION, BBE
2:05:17PM PARTICIPATION INCREASED FROM 1.46% TO 4.34%.
2:05:22PM AND IN 2022, WE HAD TO DATE, THE YEAR IS NOT OVER YET, JUST
2:05:29PM UNDER 1.35 MILLION.
2:05:31PM SO DBE PARTICIPATION IS 28.10 PERCENT.

2:05:37PM SO WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS.
2:05:39PM NOT JUST IN THE DBE AREA BUT IN PARTICIPATION OVERALL, SO WE
2:05:45PM DID.
2:05:56PM AND THEN THE LAST UPDATE I HAVE FOR YOU IS ON OUR SHELTER
2:06:00PM MARKET PROGRAM, AND THIS WOULD INCLUDE BIDS THAT WE REVIEW
2:06:08PM WITH THE SHELTER REVIEW COMMITTEE, THE HEART OF THIS TEAM,
2:06:11PM IN TERMS OF THOSE BIDS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SHELTER.
2:06:18PM IF WE HAVE THREE OR MORE FIRMS WHO ARE CERTIFIED BY THE
2:06:22PM EQUAL BUSINESS OFFICE THAT CAN PROVIDE A COMMODITY GOODS OR
2:06:27PM SERVICES TO THE CITY, OKAY, AND THE --
2:06:43PM WHERE THERE ARE OTHER LARGER FIRMS, AND ONLY THE SMALL
2:06:46PM FIRMS.
2:06:49PM SO FOR 2022, HAD 59, AND WE ESTIMATE BY THE END OF THIS
2:06:57PM PARTICULAR YEAR WE'LL HAVE 12 MORE FOR A TOTAL OF 66.
2:07:05PM NOW THE VALUE OF THOSE REWARDS AND RENEWALS, $9.8 MILLION.
2:07:11PM AND WE ESTIMATE FOR THE ENTIRE FISCAL YEAR WILL PROBABLY BE
2:07:14PM AROUND JUST UNDER $12,000.
2:07:16PM SO WE HAD A PERCENT INCREASE FROM 2021 TO 2022 ABOUT HALF.
2:07:23PM SO THESE ARE JUST UPDATES FOR YOU AND IF YOU HAVE ANY
2:07:27PM QUESTIONS I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
2:07:30PM DON'T TELL ME WHAT YOU CAN'T DO BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO.
2:07:39PM A FINE EXAMPLE OF THE BUILDERS RISK.
2:07:44PM YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE GET STUCK IN THE MUD AND WE SAY WE
2:07:47PM HAVE ALWAYS DONE IT, AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO.
2:07:55PM SO I AM GLAD THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

2:08:00PM I KNOW ONE COMPANY IN PARTICULAR, MANY, MANY YEARS, BUT AS
2:08:04PM WE PUSH THE ENVELOPE ON THIS TO GET THIS MOVING, WE ARE VERY
2:08:08PM EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
2:08:18PM LOOKING AT, WHAT WAS IT, 26%?
2:08:22PM AGAIN, NOT WHAT YOU CAN'T DO BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO.
2:08:24PM WE JUST HAVE TO CHANGE MINDS, PHILOSOPHIES AT TIMES TO MAKE
2:08:28PM THINGS MOVE.
2:08:29PM SO I AM GLAD WE ARE IN AN ERA WE ARE DOING THAT.
2:08:32PM EVERYONE KNOWS AT A STAFF REVIEW, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE
2:08:39PM EBO IS.
2:08:43PM SO CONTINUE TO ASK THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY
2:08:46PM ASKED ME TO ASK AND THEY WANT TO HAVE A BITE OF THE APPLE.
2:08:50PM I THINK WE ARE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BUT WE ARE GOING
2:08:52PM TO CONTINUE TO STRIVE TO GET BETTER NUMBERS.
2:08:55PM BUT I CAN'T ARGUE RIGHT NOW BUT WE DO HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENT.
2:08:58PM SO STAFF, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE OTHER OFF AND DOING WHAT
2:09:05PM WE CAN.
2:09:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
2:09:09PM MR. SPEARMAN, MAYBE SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE CAN ANSWER
2:09:12PM THIS.
2:09:13PM WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT INSURANCE ON WHATEVER PROJECT IT
2:09:17PM IS, AND WHAT A SURETY IS WHAT, THAT SOMETHING IS THE GOING
2:09:21PM TO GET DONE WITHIN TIME AND WITHIN BUDGET, CORRECT?
2:09:27PM >>GREG SPEARMAN: THE SURETY BASICALLY IS A BOND THAT THE
2:09:30PM PRIME CONTRACTOR HAS TO PUT UP WITH THE PROJECT.

2:09:32PM SO IF FOR SOME REASON THEY DO NOT COMPLETE THE PROJECT OR
2:09:37PM THEY FAIL TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT, THE SURETY STEPS IN, AND
2:09:42PM THEY WILL FIND ANOTHER CONTRACTOR TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT OR
2:09:48PM WE WILL BE ABLE TO CASH THAT BOND.
2:09:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET.
2:09:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME ASK THIS.
2:09:54PM THE CONTRACT, ACCORDING TO THE BEST PRICE AVAILABLE
2:09:56PM ACCORDING TO THE TIMETABLE AND EVERYTHING DO WE EVER INCLUDE
2:09:59PM WHO THE SURETY COMPANY IS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE WORK TO
2:10:03PM COVER THE BOND?
2:10:15PM >>BRAD BAIRD: DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
2:10:19PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION FOR ME,
2:10:22PM PLEASE?
2:10:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HOPE I CAN REMEMBER.
2:10:24PM WHAT I THINK IT IS, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE APPLICATIONS THAT
2:10:28PM COME IN FOR WHATEVER AND THEY BID ON SOMETHING, DO WE JUST
2:10:31PM TAKE THE COMPANY'S PAST PERFORMANCE AND PERFORMANCE
2:10:35PM SOMEWHERE ELSE, THAT THEY ARE THE ONES WITH THE LOWEST
2:10:40PM POSSIBLE BID AND THE BEST TO DO THE JOB?
2:10:43PM OR DO WE IN ANY WAY INCLUDE THE SURETY COMPANY TO MAKE SURE
2:10:46PM THEY ARE BIG ENOUGH TO HANDLE THE --
2:10:53PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE REQUIRE FROM OUR BID PACKAGE THAT THE
2:10:55PM SURETY COMPANIES MEET CERTAIN FINANCIAL THRESHOLDS, WON'T
2:10:59PM TAKE ANY COMPANY, PER SE.
2:11:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU VERIFY ALL OF THAT.

2:11:04PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I BELIEVE SO BUT I WILL LET THEM ANSWER
2:11:08PM THAT.
2:11:09PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THERE ARE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THAT THE
2:11:11PM SURETY HAS TO MEET, AND IT IS PART OF A BID PACKAGE REVIEW
2:11:15PM THAT WAS DONE.
2:11:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND THE REASON I ASK, I DON'T KNOW WHERE
2:11:19PM WE ARE AT, BUT PART OF TAMPA, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
2:11:30PM COMPANY IS INSURABLE.
2:11:35PM >>BRAD BAIRD: IT LOOKS LIKE THE SURETY HAS COME TO TERMS ON
2:11:38PM THAT WITH A CONTRACTOR.
2:11:40PM SO WE ARE REAL CLOSE TO GETTING THAT WORK DONE.
2:11:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD A
2:11:44PM LOT OF E-MAILS AND PHONE CALLS.
2:11:46PM >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, SIR.
2:11:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING?
2:11:54PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: NOT REALLY.
2:11:55PM JUST I KNOW FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
2:11:58PM OFFICE, SURETY BONDS ARE NOT THE EASIEST THING.
2:12:07PM THEY ARE GETTING A THIRD PARTY INVOLVED IN DOING THE WORK
2:12:09PM AND IT MAKES IT LONGER AND MORE DIFFICULT.
2:12:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH, SIR.
2:12:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU HERE FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3,
2:12:27PM 76143?
2:12:29PM >>BRAD BAIRD: I AM.
2:12:32PM DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

2:12:33PM I HAVE WRITTEN A MEMO ON THIS ITEM, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING
2:12:35PM AN AGREEMENT WITH WESTRA CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION FOR WATER
2:12:40PM LINE REPLACEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $4.2 MILLION AND I WILL
2:12:47PM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
2:12:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BAIRD?
2:12:51PM >> PART OF THE PIPES PROGRAM?
2:12:54PM >>BRAD BAIRD: IT IS PART OF THE PIPES PROGRAM.
2:12:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY MIRANDA, SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
2:13:02PM ROLL CALL.
2:13:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:13:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:13:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:13:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:13:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:13:13PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
2:13:16PM ABSENT.
2:13:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES?
2:13:20PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
2:13:38PM AND THE REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
2:13:41PM I AM GOING TO MAKE SURE I REACH OUT TO SOME OF THESE
2:13:44PM ASSOCIATIONS, THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENGINEERS APPLYING FOR SOME
2:13:48PM OF THESE JOBS WE DO HAVE.
2:13:50PM >>BRAD BAIRD: I DO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.
2:13:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, PW-22-76150.
2:14:00PM >>BRAD BAIRD: AND I HAVE WRITTEN MEMO ON THAT.

2:14:02PM AND THAT IS AN AMENDMENT TO AN AGREEMENT FOR DESIGN SERVICES
2:14:05PM IN THE AMOUNT OF $5.6 MILLION WITH PCL CONSTRUCTION FOR THE
2:14:10PM BAYSHORE PUMPING STATION REHABILITATION.
2:14:13PM AND I'LL STOP THERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE
2:14:18PM THEM.
2:14:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE MEMO 8% ON THAT?
2:14:24PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS WAS 18.2%.
2:14:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
2:14:34PM >> SECOND.
2:14:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND BY
2:14:37PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:14:38PM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
2:14:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:14:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:14:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:14:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: (NO RESPONSE).
2:14:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:14:55PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION WITH CARLSON ACCENT AND VIERA ABSENT AT
2:15:00PM VOTE.
2:15:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: E 22-8-CHAPTER 18.
2:15:08PM WE HAVE A WRITTEN REPORT.
2:15:09PM THERE YOU ARE.
2:15:10PM >> CAPTAIN METZGER, TAMPA POLICE.
2:15:16PM WE DID PREPARE A WRITTEN REPORT ON THIS.
2:15:18PM I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AS WELL.

2:15:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
2:15:23PM ANY COMMENTS?
2:15:24PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:15:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE PREVIOUS MEMO SAID THE CAMERAS CANNOT BE
2:15:34PM TURNED OFF?
2:15:35PM IN THE MEMO IT SAYS THAT THEY ARE TURNED OFF.
2:15:36PM >> THEY CAN ALWAYS BE TURNED OFF.
2:15:40PM OUR POLICY DOES NOT ALLOW THEM TO BE TURNED OFF.
2:15:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT WHAT -- BUT THEY CAN BE SILENT, CORRECT?
2:15:49PM >> CORRECT.
2:15:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THERE ANY DATA ON HOW OFTEN THEY ARE
2:15:52PM SILENCED?
2:15:54PM >> NO, THE SYSTEM DOES NOT KEEP ANY KIND OF RECORDS AS FAR
2:15:57PM AS HOW OFTEN THAT FEATURE IS USED.
2:16:01PM WE DO A QUALITY ASSURANCE REPORT EVERY MONTH, OUR
2:16:05PM SUPERVISORS, AND ALSO REVIEW VIDEOS ON A RANDOM BASIS TO
2:16:12PM MAKE SURE KNOCK IS BEING DONE IN VIOLATION OF POLICY.
2:16:15PM BUT THERE'S NO METRIC IN THE SYSTEM FOR WHEN THE FEET SUR IS
2:16:18PM USED AND NOT USED.
2:16:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S VERY CONCERNING.
2:16:27PM IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE USED BY ANYONE, WE SHOULD
2:16:30PM BE ABLE TO TRACK THAT.
2:16:31PM SO I WOULD ASK IF YOU COULD ASK THE COMPANY WHAT TYPES OF
2:16:35PM WAYS WE COULD FOLLOW THAT DATA.
2:16:37PM >> I CAN REACH OUT.

2:16:47PM >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS THIS YEAR THAT HAVE COME IN
2:17:12PM AND WE HAVE TRIED TO FIND VIDEO AND IT'S EITHER NOT THERE OR
2:17:16PM THE VIDEO HAS BEEN SILENCED SO THAT HAS NOT BEEN AN ISSUE.
2:17:20PM NOW BACK WHEN THE PROGRAM WAS NEW IN 2020 AND 2021 WE HAD
2:17:25PM SOME INCIDENTS WHERE THE THEY WERE NOT TURNED ON BUT
2:17:31PM ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR SINCE THE POLICY HAS BEEN CHANGED WE
2:17:33PM HAVE HAD NO INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANY
2:17:35PM CAMERA WAS EITHER DEACTIVATED OR SILENCED IN VIOLATION OF
2:17:39PM POLICY, AND IT'S LED TO A QUESTIONABLE, YOU KNOW, ACCOUNT
2:17:42PM THAT SOMEBODY HAS CALLED A COMPLAINT IN.
2:17:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
2:17:45PM AND AGAIN, EVERYONE MAY BE USING IT CORRECTLY WITH YOU I
2:17:49PM THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT SO THAT WE ALL KNOW.
2:17:56PM >> I CAN REACH OUT TO AXION AND SEE IF THEY HAVE PLANS ON
2:18:00PM INCLUDING THAT, THEY ARE A NATIONWIDE COMPANY.
2:18:03PM THEY HAVE THOUSANDS OF CLIENTS.
2:18:04PM THEY ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO CHANGE THEIR ENTIRE SOFTWARE
2:18:07PM PROGRAM BECAUSE WE MAKE THAT REQUEST.
2:18:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT.
2:18:15PM SO THANK YOU.
2:18:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:18:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU COULD BRING IT BACK.
2:18:25PM HOW ABOUT A MONTH?
2:18:26PM HOW IS THAT?
2:18:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW ABOUT SEPTEMBER 15th?

2:18:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S THAT BUSY DAY, DISTRICT.
2:18:38PM OR IS THAT EVENING?
2:18:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, THAT WAS SEPTEMBER 1st.
2:18:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, 15th.
2:18:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE 25th.
2:18:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY, SORRY.
2:18:46PM THEN YES.
2:18:47PM HOW ABOUT SEPTEMBER 1st?
2:18:54PM THAT WOULD BE UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
2:19:01PM THANK YOU.
2:19:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT YOUR MOTION?
2:19:05PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
2:19:08PM MANISCALCO.
2:19:08PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:19:10PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:19:11PM THANK YOU.
2:19:11PM >> THANK YOU.
2:19:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. FEELEY.
2:19:19PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR, DEVELOPMENT AND
2:19:22PM GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
2:19:23PM I WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE UNDER STAFF REPORTS ON
2:19:26PM THE CONSOLIDATED ACTION PLAN THAT YOU ALL APPROVED AND WERE
2:19:30PM TRANSMITTING TO HUD.
2:19:32PM SO I WANTED TO SEE IF I MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT NOW BEFORE
2:19:35PM MS. TRAVIS COMES UP, OR I CAN WAIT.

2:19:43PM I ALSO HAVE AN ITEM AT 5:00 TONIGHT.
2:19:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. FEELEY, YOU ARE STANDING AT THE PODIUM
2:19:51PM NOW.
2:19:51PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: AB I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE AND
2:19:55PM I HAD A QUICK PRESENTATION ON THE CONSOLIDATED ACTION PLAN,
2:19:59PM AND IN THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN,
2:20:03PM HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN COMING BEFORE YOU
2:20:05PM SINCE JUNE ON THIS.
2:20:07PM THIS IS WHERE WE SHOWED YOU THE FUNDS WE ARE GOING TO GET
2:20:09PM FOR THE YEAR, WHO APPLIED THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS FOR THOSE
2:20:14PM ALLOCATIONS, WHAT PROGRAMS ARE GOING TO BE FUNDED, AND THE
2:20:18PM LAST TIME WE WERE HERE WE TOLD YOU WE WERE ABOUT TO HEAD OUT
2:20:21PM ON HAVING SEVEN COMMUNITY MEETINGS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY TO
2:20:24PM HEAR OTHER CONCERNS ON HOUSING.
2:20:26PM SO I WILL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THIS NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
2:20:42PM EACH YEAR WE BRING YOU OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, REQUIRED TO
2:20:46PM DO THIS FROM HUD.
2:20:47PM THESE ARE ALL FEDERAL ENTITLEMENTS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
2:20:50PM TODAY SO THIS IS NO GENERAL FUND, NO STATE FUNDS, THESE ARE
2:20:53PM ALL FEDERAL FUNDS.
2:20:54PM NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
2:20:56PM RIGHT HERE WE SHOW YOU -- AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD, BUT
2:21:00PM LET ME SHOW YOU THOSE FIRST FOUR FUNDS ARE FEDERAL FUNDS,
2:21:06PM THE CDBG, HOME, HOPWA AND ESG, AND THE STATE FUNDS THAT COME
2:21:14PM TO US BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT FULL PICTURE.

2:21:17PM SO THERE'S 13-POINT 8 MILLION IN GRANT FUNDS.
2:21:27PM SO YOU ARE JUST SEEING THIS PORTION THAT WILL BE IN FISCAL
2:21:30PM YEAR 23 AND WHAT IS OUR PROGRAM YEAR 22.
2:21:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THIS AN ADD-ON?
2:21:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS IS AN ADD-ON.
2:21:40PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YOU ACTUALLY ALREADY APPROVED IT.
2:21:42PM I AM JUST WORKING TO CONTINUE THAT DIALOGUE THAT WE HAVE
2:21:45PM SAID THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW NOW, THIS IS ALL SET
2:21:48PM TO GO AND IT IS GOING TO BE TRANSMITTED TO HUD NEXT WEEK.
2:21:51PM SO I WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND
2:21:54PM CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AS WELL.
2:22:05PM THE PROPOSED PROGRAMS IF YOU GO BACK, PLEASE.
2:22:07PM NEXT SLIDE.
2:22:10PM THE PROPOSED PROGRAMS THAT WILL BE FUNDED THIS YEAR INCLUDED
2:22:15PM FOUR OF THE PUBLIC SERVICE AGENCIES, TWO UNDER PUBLIC
2:22:18PM FACILITIES, TWO HOUSING COUNSELING AGENCIES, HOMELESS
2:22:22PM SERVICES, HOPWA, WHICH IS THE HIV AND AIDS, AGAIN FOR THE
2:22:28PM FOUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES, AND THEN PERMANENT HOUSING
2:22:31PM SERVICES.
2:22:34PM THAT'S A TOTAL OF 7.7 MILLION.
2:22:36PM I SHOWED YOU 13 MILLION.
2:22:37PM WE KEEP BACK SOME OF THAT MONEY TO DO OUR OWNER OCCUPIED
2:22:42PM REHAB AND OUR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT
2:22:46PM OF 2 MILLION.
2:22:47PM THEN WE HAVE SOME THAT IS CURRENTLY NOT ALLOCATED TO

2:22:50PM PROGRAMS.
2:22:51PM NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
2:22:52PM WE DID HAVE A 30-DAY PUBLIC RECORD PERIOD.
2:22:56PM WE RECEIVED 35 SURVEYS IN THAT.
2:22:59PM WE CONSOLIDATED THOSE RESPONSES, AND THERE WAS NOTHING IN
2:23:04PM CONFLICT WITH WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED.
2:23:08PM NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
2:23:09PM THIS AGAIN IS THE SCHEDULE OF THE ACTION PLAN AND HOW IT'S
2:23:12PM COME BEFORE YOU.
2:23:13PM WE HAVE BEEN HERE A FEW TIMES.
2:23:15PM WE LIKE TO TRACK FOR YOU, IT WAS APPROVED ON CONSENT ON JULY
2:23:19PM 14th AND I THINK IT WAS APPROVED, AND NOW WE WILL BE
2:23:27PM TRANSMITTING IT TO HUD FOR THE AUGUST 15th DEADLINE.
2:23:31PM AND THEN IT IS OUR GOAL IN THE NEXT 30 TO 45 DAYS TO BRING
2:23:35PM TO YOU THE AGREEMENTS THAT WILL BE ALLOCATING THESE FUNDS TO
2:23:39PM THE RECIPIENTS.
2:23:42PM SO THAT WILL BE THE NEXT STEP.
2:23:44PM SOMETIMES WE HAVE BEEN COMING TO YOU OVER THE YEARS.
2:23:46PM AND WE TALK THROUGH ALL THESE PLANS.
2:23:48PM AND WE SEE THINGS.
2:23:49PM WE JUST WANT TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THAT DIALOGUE GOING WITH
2:23:51PM YOU.
2:23:52PM SO I DID WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT TODAY.
2:23:55PM THE NEXT SLIDE JUST SHOWS YOU MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD, WHERE
2:23:57PM THEY WERE HELD, THE TIMES, AND THE DATES.

2:24:03PM AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:24:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. FEELEY?
2:24:09PM MS. FEELEY, CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT EACH COUNCILMEMBER HAS A
2:24:12PM COPY OF THIS?
2:24:17PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IT WAS IN SIRE.
2:24:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU MAKE SURE WE GET A COPY OF IT,
2:24:21PM PLEASE?
2:24:22PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES.
2:24:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY.
2:24:29PM FILE CM 21-71562.
2:24:34PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.
2:24:35PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT ECONOMIC
2:24:48PM OPPORTUNITY.
2:24:48PM I AM HERE BEFORE YOU TO TALK ABOUT THE ADVOCACY OFFICE THAT
2:24:54PM YOU REQUESTED FOR STAFF TO COME BACK WITH IN DRAFT
2:24:58PM ORDINANCE.
2:24:58PM AS I SHARED WITH YOU IN YOUR BRIEFINGS YOU DON'T NEED AN
2:25:02PM ORDINANCE TO THIS OFFICE.
2:25:05PM WE BELIEVE AN ORDINANCE WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE RESTRICTIVE
2:25:08PM THAN THE FLEXIBILITY WE NEED FOR OUR CHANGING MARKET, AND TO
2:25:12PM BE MORE RESPONSIVE TO THE MEANS OF OUR RESIDENTS.
2:25:17PM I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR YOU.
2:25:38PM WE WERE HEARING A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT EVICTION NOTICE,
2:25:41PM RENTAL ASSISTANCE, SO WHEN WE SET UP THAT HOUSING HOTLINE
2:25:45PM THAT GAVE US A LOT OF INFORMATION WE NEEDED TO TRY TO SHAPE

2:25:48PM WHAT I AM CALLING A TENANT SERVICES TEAM, INSTEAD OF JUST --
2:25:53PM WE WERE SHOOTING IN THE DARK INITIALLY, BUT THIS REALLY GAVE
2:25:56PM US WHAT WE NEEDED.
2:25:59PM YOU CAN SEE THAT 44% OF THE CALLS THAT WE RECEIVED WITHIN A
2:26:02PM SIX-WEEK PERIOD, I DON'T HAVE LAST WEEK'S DATA YET, BUT THE
2:26:06PM SIX WEEKS, 44% OF THOSE CALLS WERE FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE,
2:26:10PM THEN ABOUT 19% CALLS THAT WERE OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS, HOMELESS
2:26:15PM OR LOOKING FOR MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE, 16.7% MUCH LIKE WHAT YOU
2:26:20PM HEARD THIS MORNING IS THE AVAILABILITY OF HOUSING IS A
2:26:24PM PROBLEM.
2:26:24PM WE RECEIVED CALLS ON TRYING TO HELP FIND UNITS.
2:26:28PM FINDING AFFORDABLE HOMES TO PURCHASE WAS ABOUT 7.3%.
2:26:32PM THEN I AM GOING TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE LAST THREE ITEMS,
2:26:35PM WHICH IS EVICTION, RENT INCREASE AND LANDLORD COMPLAINTS.
2:26:40PM IN SETTING UP THE TENANT SERVICES TEAM, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS
2:26:43PM MUCH LIKE WE HAVE, WE HAVE A HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
2:26:46PM TEAM, WE HAVE A HOMELESS TEAM, WE ARE SETTING UP A TENANT
2:26:50PM SERVICES TEAM, HIRING TWO FULL-TIME COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
2:26:54PM SPECIALISTS.
2:26:56PM THEY WILL DIRECT INDIVIDUALS TO SERVICES SO THE CITY OF
2:26:59PM TAMPA IS NOT THE ONLY SERVICE PROVIDER AS FAR AS RENTAL
2:27:04PM ASSISTANCE OR OTHER SUPPORT SERVICES.
2:27:07PM WE MAY DIRECT THEM TO OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS AND OTHER
2:27:10PM PROGRAMS.
2:27:11PM WE WILL START THIS MORNING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND HAVE

2:27:16PM A DEDICATED PERSON HERE TO RECEIVE COMPLAINTS OR ANYTHING TO
2:27:19PM DIRECT THEM TO THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT IF THEY HAVE
2:27:25PM COMPLAINTS BUT WE ALSO HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE
2:27:28PM UNITS, SO WE WILL HAVE A DEDICATED -- WORKING WITH CODE
2:27:32PM ENFORCEMENT TO HAVE A DEDICATED STAFF AT COUNCIL MEETINGS
2:27:35PM STARTING ON OCTOBER 25th SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THE
2:27:38PM INFORMATION, IF SOMEONE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE QUALITY OF
2:27:41PM THEIR HOME, WE CAN TAKE THAT INFORMATION SOMETIMES THEY ARE
2:27:46PM OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS BUT WE CAN TAKE THAT RIGHT NOW AND
2:27:49PM CATCH CODE ENFORCEMENT REALTIME ONCE WE HEAR THOSE COMMENTS.
2:27:53PM AND THEN LAUNCHING OUT PILOT PROGRAM WITH THE BAY AREA LEGAL
2:27:57PM SERVICES, AGAIN, MOST OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HEARD THROUGH
2:28:01PM PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE RECENT WEEKS WAS LEGAL SERVICE, ACCESS
2:28:05PM TO LEGAL SERVICE.
2:28:07PM SO WHILE EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO LEGAL COUNSEL, ASK THE
2:28:13PM CITY TO PAY FOR THAT, AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CANNOT
2:28:16PM REPRESENT A PRIVATE ENTITY BECAUSE THE CITY OF TAMPA IS THE
2:28:21PM CLIENT.
2:28:21PM SO OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS WORKED REALLY HARD WITH BAY AREA
2:28:24PM LEGAL SERVICES TO CREATE A PILOT PROGRAM, SO WE CAN SEE HOW
2:28:27PM THIS WORKS, AND WE WILL DO THE TENANT SERVICES TEAM WILL DO
2:28:32PM THE PRESCREENING FOR LEGAL SERVICES.
2:28:35PM SO AS A PART OF LOOKING AT THE DATA THAT FROM THE HOUSING
2:28:42PM HOTLINE, EVICTION CALLS ABOUT EVICTION WAS ABOUT 10.3% OF
2:28:47PM THOSE CALLS.

2:28:50PM THE LANDLORD COMPLAINTS, THESE ARE CALLS THAT WE WOULD REFER
2:28:54PM FOR LEGAL SERVICES.
2:28:55PM SO AGAIN, WE ARE WORKING WITH BAY AREA LEGAL TO PUT TOGETHER
2:28:59PM A PROGRAM THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SCREEN THOSE CALLS, TO
2:29:03PM DIRECT THE TENANTS TO BAY AREA LEGAL SERVICES, WE WILL START
2:29:06PM WITH THE SCREENING.
2:29:08PM THEY HAVE EXISTING LANDLORD TENANT STAFF ATTORNEYS.
2:29:11PM I DO HAVE TO TELL YOU MUCH LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, THERE ARE
2:29:16PM STAFFING SHORTAGES, JUST SHEER VOLUME.
2:29:19PM THEY ARE BEHIND BUT THEY ARE COMMITTED TO TRY TO GO FORWARD
2:29:26PM WITH THIS.
2:29:28PM WITH BAY AREA LEGAL EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN THE FEDERAL
2:29:32PM POVERTY GUIDELINES, THEN AGAIN THE TENANT SERVICES TEAM WILL
2:29:35PM DO THE INITIATE THE SCREENING.
2:29:37PM AND THE WAY THAT WE HAVE STRUCTURED THE PAYMENT OF THOSE
2:29:40PM SERVICES ARE THREE CATEGORIES.
2:29:43PM SO A TENANT MAY NEED CONSULTATION, WE HAVE A FLAT FEE FOR
2:29:47PM THAT.
2:29:47PM IF A TENANT WANTS TO REPRESENT THEMSELVES IN A LEGAL MATTER
2:29:50PM AND THEY HAVE QUESTIONS OR ABOUT FORMS OR HELP WITH
2:29:53PM NEGOTIATIONS AND DOING IT PRO SE, THERE'S A FLAT FEE FOR
2:29:57PM THAT.
2:29:58PM AND IF THERE HAS TO BE AN APPEARANCE IN A COURT CASE THERE'S
2:30:01PM ANOTHER FLAT FEE FOR THAT.
2:30:03PM SO AGAIN, THE HOUSING HOTLINE HAS THE NUMBER AT THE TOP OF

2:30:07PM THE SCREEN.
2:30:08PM RENTAL A YOU ASSISTANCE IS THE NUMBER ONE, THE BULK OF WHAT
2:30:15PM YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING IN PUBLIC COMMENTS.
2:30:16PM WHAT YOU HEARD THIS MORNING, AND WE KNOW THAT FROM THE 3500
2:30:21PM APPLICATIONS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH.
2:30:25PM SO I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE THAT UNMENTIONED BUT WE ARE
2:30:29PM STACKING UP THROUGH TEMP EMPLOYEES, THROUGH OVERTIME, CITY
2:30:35PM EMPLOYEES TO WORK THROUGH THAT BACKLOG.
2:30:37PM WE HAVE STARTED TO WORK THROUGH THAT NUMBER.
2:30:39PM YOU WILL SEE WHEN I GIVE YOU THE NEXT RENTAL MOVING
2:30:43PM ASSISTANCE PROGRAM NUMBERS, AT ONE POINT YOU SAW THE AVERAGE
2:30:46PM WAS ABOUT 13,000.
2:30:48PM THAT HAS GONE DOWN TO ABOUT 7800.
2:30:50PM BUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS SOME PEOPLE LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY
2:30:55PM LIMITS, SOME PEOPLE NO LONGER NEED SERVICES, MOVE ELSE,
2:30:58PM WHERE DON'T NEED ASSISTANCE ANYMORE, SO THE NUMBERS ARE
2:31:00PM FLUID AND WILL CONTINUE TO REPORT, BUT WE ARE WORKING
2:31:04PM THROUGH THAT LIST.
2:31:05PM AND I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK KAYON HENDERSON, ABBYE
2:31:12PM FEELEY AND THE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE STEPPED UP AND WORKED
2:31:16PM OVERTIME TO WORK THROUGH THE HOUSING HOTLINE.
2:31:20PM I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S NOT LOST ON US, THE COMMENTS
2:31:25PM THAT WE HEAR AT COUNCIL.
2:31:26PM I LISTEN TO EVERY COMMENT THIS MORNING.
2:31:29PM AND JUST SIT IN CHAMBERS.

2:31:31PM YOU SEE ME SIT THROUGH, AND FOR STAFF IT'S NOT LOST ON US.
2:31:36PM THERE IS A NEED.
2:31:37PM PEOPLE ARE HURTING.
2:31:38PM AND FOR OUR STAFF TO WORK OVERTIME, OR TO SHIFT FROM THEIR
2:31:45PM DAILY DUTIES TO HELP US WORK THROUGH THE STAFF LINE, IT HAS
2:31:47PM BEEN EMOTIONALLY HARD FOR THEM.
2:31:52PM SO IT'S HARD.
2:31:54PM IT'S HARD LISTENING.
2:31:55PM AND JUST LIKE YOU SITTING THERE AND FEELING HELPLESS AND
2:31:59PM CAN'T GET THE HELP FAST ENOUGH.
2:32:01PM SO I WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK THOSE EMPLOYEES AND THE
2:32:05PM LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT HAS WORKED THROUGH THIS.
2:32:07PM I THINK THAT'S MY LAST SLIDE.
2:32:09PM I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
2:32:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:32:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN TELL THE PASSION IN THE VOICE, YOU
2:32:28PM HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
2:32:31PM I HEARD FROM THE ASSOCIATIONS TODAY, AND I LOOK FOR
2:32:39PM SOLUTIONS.
2:32:41PM I LOOK AT ALL THESE BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEING BUILT.
2:32:45PM I MEAN, YEAH, I TALKED ABOUT THE VACANCIES.
2:32:50PM WE GOT PEOPLE WITH NO PLACES TO STAY, WE ARE FILLING THEM
2:32:56PM UP.
2:32:57PM SO HOW DO WE WORK WITH THESE FOLKS?
2:33:02PM DON'T TELL ME WHAT WE CAN'T DO.

2:33:04PM IF YOU HAVE VACANCIES, I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED TO COME UP
2:33:12PM WITH SOME ANSWERS.
2:33:14PM SURE.
2:33:15PM SO I AM GOING TO GIVE A HEALTHY VACANCY RATE WHERE THERE IS
2:33:22PM SUPPLY IN THE MARKETPLACE, WHERE PEOPLE DON'T EASILY FIND
2:33:27PM RENTAL UNITS, IT'S USUALLY ABOUT 7% TO 8% AND WE ARE WAY
2:33:31PM UNDER THAT.
2:33:31PM SO THERE'S A SHORTAGE ON THE DEMAND.
2:33:39PM BUT I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THERE IS A VACANCY, 5% VACANCY
2:33:43PM RATE OR LOWER, IT'S NOT THAT NEW.
2:33:45PM SO IT MIGHT BE HARD.
2:33:46PM SO I TOOK NOTES ON THAT, AND SO WE'LL REACH OUT AND SEE, IS
2:33:53PM THERE ANYTHING PROHIBITING THEM, BUT THERE'S QUESTIONS TO BE
2:34:02PM ASKED AND WE WILL FOLLOW UP.
2:34:04PM SO WE HEAR THE COMMENTS AND THEN WE GO BACK AND WE START
2:34:07PM ASKING QUESTIONS AND WE TRY TO FIND SOLUTIONS, MUCH LIKE
2:34:10PM WHAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU WITH THE TENANT SERVICES TEAM.
2:34:14PM THE MAYOR AGREES WITH YOU, ADVOCACY OFFICE, WE REALIZE OUR
2:34:21PM RESIDENTS WHICH ARE TENANTS, WHICH ARE ALMOST HALF OF OUR
2:34:25PM WHOSE HOLDS ARE RENTERS IN TAMPA, AND SO WE KNOW THAT WE
2:34:29PM NEED TO PROVIDE MORE ACCESS TO THAT.
2:34:31PM SO THIS IS WHY WE PRESENTED THE TENANT SERVICES TEAM, AND
2:34:37PM NOT HAVING IT CODIFIED IN ORDINANCE, I JUST WANT TO
2:34:40PM REITERATE THAT ALLOWS US THE FLEXIBILITY TO CONTINUE TO ADD
2:34:44PM AND SHIFT BASED ON WHATEVER THE MARKET IS.

2:34:47PM WE ARE STARTING WITH TWO EMPLOYEES.
2:34:49PM I TOLD YOU THAT WE ARE STAFFING UP TO WORK THROUGH THE
2:34:51PM BACKLOG.
2:34:53PM WE ARE WORKING ON THIS.
2:34:55PM AND THIS ALSO ALLOWS THAT TEAM TO ALSO WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR
2:34:59PM HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
2:35:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
2:35:03PM BECAUSE I AM GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, MOST PEOPLE ARE
2:35:10PM NOT READY TO BE HOMELESS.
2:35:12PM IT TAKES A LOT TO MAINTAIN A HOME.
2:35:15PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE TALKED ABOUT IT THIS MORNING, RIGHT?
2:35:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO YOU HAVE FENCING, ROOF REPAIR, OR
2:35:24PM SOMETHING BREAKS INSIDE THAT HOUSE, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT
2:35:27PM MONEY TO FIX THIS AND THAT, AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE A SET LEVEL
2:35:30PM WHERE THEY CAN PAY THEIR RENT AND A FEW BILLS AND MAYBE A
2:35:36PM DAYCARE, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY CAN'T HANDLE A HOME UNLESS
2:35:42PM THEY ARE MAKING A DECENT PAY.
2:35:44PM SO LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS, YOU HAVE GOT TO LOOK AT HOW WE
2:35:49PM NEED TO BUILD OR HOW WE CAN BUILD, LOOK AT CHANGING ZONING,
2:35:53PM CHANGE THE RULES AND FIND A WAY TO MEET THESE FOLKS, AND SAY
2:35:57PM WHAT CAN WE GIVE TO BUILD -- BUILD HOUSES.
2:36:06PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I THINK THE MARKET MENTIONED EARLIER IN
2:36:08PM THE COMMENTS, THAT IT'S NOT JUST -- IT'S NOT A HOUSING
2:36:13PM CRISIS FOR POOR PEOPLE.
2:36:14PM IT'S NOT A HOUSING CRISIS FOR A PARTICULAR DEMOGRAPHIC.

2:36:18PM IT'S A HOUSING CRISIS FOR EVERYONE.
2:36:20PM AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
2:36:22PM BUT WHAT HAPPENS OFTENTIMES IS THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR AND THE
2:36:26PM POOREST, PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE
2:36:29PM HARDEST HIT.
2:36:30PM AND SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS NOT JUST FROM AN AFFORDABLE --
2:36:35PM FROM THE TECHNICAL DEFINITION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT
2:36:38PM HOUSING AFFORDABILITY SO THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT BURDENED WITH
2:36:43PM RENT AND MORTGAGES, SO LOOK LIKE WE ARE DOING SOME ECONOMIC
2:36:49PM CLASSES TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU HAVE ONE IN OUR NEXT
2:36:53PM PRESENTATION.
2:36:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: JUST THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE.
2:36:56PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ALWAYS.
2:36:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:37:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, I'M FINE THAT TAMPA IS ADDING THESE
2:37:03PM TYPE OF EMPLOYEES, ESPECIALLY HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT THE
2:37:07PM RELATIONSHIP WITH BAY AREA LEGAL.
2:37:10PM AS THOSE ATTORNEYS NOW KNOW THEIR WORK IS BACK WITH THE FULL
2:37:13PM FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE CITY.
2:37:15PM WE ARE PAYING FOR THEIR SERVICES.
2:37:17PM I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
2:37:19PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, MA'AM.
2:37:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE NAME TOO, IT'S RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ITS
2:37:25PM CITIZENS, NOT ADVOCACY, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
2:37:28PM HOW DOES THIS OFFICE PLAN TO MAKE THE AVAILABILITY OF THESE

2:37:31PM SERVICES KNOWN TO RENTERS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?
2:37:35PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT.
2:37:37PM WE WORK CLOSELY, SO UNLIKE ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITY, THIS IS
2:37:43PM THE THIRD MUNICIPALITY I HAVE WORKED FOR, WE HAVE OUR OWN
2:37:48PM PORTFOLIOS, AND SHE WAS ON OUR BRIEFINGS, SHE'S ALSO ON ALL
2:37:54PM OF MY STAFF CALLS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN HOUSING.
2:37:57PM SHE'S THE ONE THAT HELPS US GET THE WORD OUT DOING MARKETING
2:38:00PM AND ALSO WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY ADVOCATES TO MAKE SURE
2:38:03PM THAT THERE IS -- THE INFORMATION IS GIVEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT
2:38:06PM NEED HELP.
2:38:06PM SO WE ARE GOING TO INCREASE OUR -- USE OUR COMMUNICATIONS
2:38:14PM PORTFOLIO TO HELP GET THE WORD OUT.
2:38:17PM NOT ONLY THAT.
2:38:18PM WORKING WITH COMMUNITY LEADERS AND COMMUNITY ADVOCATES, MS.
2:38:22PM LOCKETT AND I ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO BRING SERVICES TO
2:38:27PM REALLY TALKS ABOUT TENANTS, BUT SERVICES IN SEMINOLE
2:38:31PM HEIGHTS, WE HAVE TWO MEETINGS THAT'S COMING UP, AND
2:38:36PM BECAUSE -- AUGUST 10th IS THE FIRST ONE 5:30 TO 7:30.
2:38:43PM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT, HUMAN RIGHTS OFFICE,
2:38:46PM HOUSING, TPD, MARKS AND RECREATION, ALL THERE JUST TO ANSWER
2:38:49PM QUESTIONS, BUT ALSO TO EXPLAIN WHAT KIND OF SERVICES THE
2:38:52PM CITY HAS TO PROVIDE.
2:38:54PM TO SENIORS, TO RENTERS.
2:38:57PM WE ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE AND CONTINUE
2:39:00PM TO SHARE WHAT SERVICES THE CITY CAN PROVIDE.

2:39:02PM AND WE WANT TO HELP.
2:39:05PM THIS IS NOT BIG CITY GOVERNMENT.
2:39:07PM WE WANT OUR CITIZENS TO FEEL COMFORTABLE IN CALLING US.
2:39:11PM IF THERE IS A CHALLENGE, IF THEY HAVE A SOLUTION, IF THEY
2:39:13PM NEED HELP NAVIGATING THE SYSTEM.
2:39:15PM SO WE'LL DON'T DO COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND PUBLIC OUTREACH.
2:39:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THESE TEMP EMPLOYEES, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING,
2:39:23PM FROM OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION, ARE GOING TO BE REACHING
2:39:25PM OUT, 3500 APPLICATIONS THAT ARE WAITING?
2:39:30PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES.
2:39:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST AS A GUESSTIMATE, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK
2:39:36PM THAT WILL TAKE TO IMPACT ALL OF THOSE?
2:39:40PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: OKAY.
2:39:41PM SO LABOR IS HARD, BUT WE THINK IF WE CAN GET STAFF UP EVEN
2:39:47PM WITH TEN DEDICATED, WE THINK WE CAN DO IT IN 45 DAYS.
2:39:50PM SO WE ARE READY WORKING THROUGH T&I HAS BEEN GREAT WORKING
2:39:58PM WITH US TO GET THE AGGREGATE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE
2:40:01PM ALREADY RECEIVED, SEND OUT MESSAGES TO EVERYONE SAYING WE
2:40:04PM ARE CONTACTING YOU, UPDATE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION, SO WE
2:40:08PM HAVE BEEN DOING THAT SO PEOPLE DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY
2:40:10PM ANYMORE.
2:40:10PM SO PEOPLE ARE COMING UP.
2:40:12PM SO WE ARE ACTIVELY DOING THAT NOW.
2:40:14PM BUT IF WE GET -- OUR GOAL IS 12.
2:40:18PM WE THINK WE CAN GET THROUGH IN 45 DAYS.

2:40:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WILL THERE BE A SYSTEM OF CASE NUMBERS, THAT
2:40:25PM TENANT SERVICE CAN BE CONNECTED EACH TIME?
2:40:29PM I KNOW YOU ARE DOING A LOST DATA COLLECTION.
2:40:31PM IS THAT PART OF IT?
2:40:32PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, BECAUSE EVERY TIME THERE'S INTAKE, WE
2:40:38PM TAKE A CERTAIN INFORMATION, OR ASSIGN THE NUMBER.
2:40:41PM SO YES.
2:40:41PM SO I WAS JUST THINKING OF SYSTEMS THAT WOULD AGGREGATE -- WE
2:40:45PM ARE COLLECTING IT AND YES, IT WILL HAVE A CASE NUMBER AND
2:40:49PM THEY WILL BE ABLE TO KNOW WHO THEY SPOKE TO.
2:40:51PM AND THAT'S A PART OF WHAT WE DO, IN HOUSING COMMUNITY
2:40:56PM DEVELOPMENT.
2:40:56PM THIS IS VOCATIONAL.
2:40:59PM WE WANT TO DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR CITIZENS AND OUR
2:41:02PM RESIDENTS SO THEY CAN SPEAK TO THE SAME PERSON.
2:41:04PM THEY'LL KNOW THAT THEIR SUCCESS AND THEIR WELL-BEING AND
2:41:10PM QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE PERSON AT THE END OF THE CALL IS
2:41:12PM DOING THAT.
2:41:13PM SO YES.
2:41:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE ONE MORE.
2:41:16PM I HAVE A REQUEST THAT YOU COME BACK TO THIS COUNCIL EVERY
2:41:18PM TWO MONTHS WITH UPDATES.
2:41:22PM AND I ALSO WANT A SWAT ANALYSIS, EIGHT DAYS, OPPORTUNITIES,
2:41:28PM AND I JUST WANT AN UPDATE ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING, WHAT
2:41:34PM AREAS CAN WE LOOK TO CHANGE, BECAUSE IF WHAT YOU ARE ASKING

2:41:37PM FOR IS NOT TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE, THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE
2:41:41PM FLUID, THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO BE A PART OF THAT FLUIDITY, AND
2:41:45PM WE WANT TO SEE HOW ANYMORE BALANCE WE CAN MAKE GOVERNMENT.
2:41:49PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: 100%.
2:41:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT ONLY THAT.
2:41:52PM I AM ABSOLUTELY WILLING AND VOLUNTEERING TO DO A SHIFT.
2:41:57PM AND I HAVE ACTUALLY HEARD MEMBERS, YOU MIGHT BE WILLING TO
2:42:00PM DO IT?
2:42:01PM BUT, YEAH, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER SOME PHONE CALLS AND DO WHAT
2:42:04PM I CAN.
2:42:05PM SO PLEASE REACH OUT.
2:42:06PM I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND I THINK SEVERAL OF
2:42:09PM OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS MIGHT JOIN ME.
2:42:11PM BUT WANTED TO PUT THIS BACK OUT AGAIN, THE PHONE NUMBER TO
2:42:15PM CALL, PLEASE, PLEASE USE THIS.
2:42:17PM SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
2:42:18PM >> 813-307-5555
2:42:28PM 813-307-5555.
2:42:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
2:42:36PM I KNOW I DID ASK FOR AN ORDINANCE.
2:42:37PM THE NEXT DAY THIS ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE, I BELIEVE.
2:42:44PM HOWEVER, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK DID ASK FOR A REPORT COME BACK
2:42:50PM EVERY TWO MONTHS.
2:42:51PM I KNOW AN ORDINANCE IS MORE RESTRICTIVE IN IT WOULD SIGH TWO
2:42:55PM PEOPLE WOULD STAFF THIS.

2:42:56PM NOW YOU ARE SAYING DOING IT THIS WAY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO
2:42:59PM EXPAND IT TO 10 TO 12 TO 5, WHEREVER WE NEED WITHOUT COMING
2:43:04PM BACK TO COUNCIL TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE AND WHATEVER.
2:43:16PM I JUST WANT IT DONE.
2:43:17PM PEOPLE NEED HELP TODAY.
2:43:18PM AS FAR AS I KNOW THIS IS ALREADY ACTIVE.
2:43:26PM AND PEOPLE CAN GET HELP ALREADY, STARTING AT 307-5555.
2:43:35PM AGAIN AT THE END OF THE DAY I WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
2:43:38PM AS I SAID EARLIER, I DON'T WANT TO OFFER FALSE HOPE TO
2:43:41PM ANYBODY.
2:43:42PM I NOTICE THAT WE ARE RESTRICTED IN WHAT WE CAN DO AND
2:43:45PM WHATNOT.
2:43:46PM SO IT'S NOT THE ADVOCACY OFFICE THAT HAS ITS OWN SERVICES
2:43:52PM TEAM.
2:43:52PM HOWEVER IT REACHES THE SAME OR SIMILAR GOAL, IS ABLE TO HELP
2:43:55PM PEOPLE.
2:43:56PM THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT IS THAT PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE,
2:43:59PM PEOPLE THAT HAVE REQUESTED, PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NEED HAVE THE
2:44:02PM SERVICES AVAILABLE TO THEM, HERE WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
2:44:08PM SO THAT'S IT.
2:44:09PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:44:10PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT, AT THAT TIME
2:44:15PM WE WERE DOING 11 TO 7 AND WE SAW THAT THE DATA, AND WE HAD
2:44:18PM THE CALL CENTER, THE BULK OF OUR CALLS WERE COME IN BETWEEN
2:44:21PM 4 AND 7 P.M.

2:44:22PM THIS IS WHEN PEOPLE ARE GETTING OFF LEAVE.
2:44:25PM THAT'S WHY WE SWITCHED OUR TIME AND RESOURCES REALLY TO
2:44:29PM CAPTURE THE VOLUME OF WHEN THE CALLS ARE COMING IN.
2:44:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO IF SOMEBODY ASKS ME I CAN TELL THEM
2:44:35PM WE HAVE OUR OWN TENANT ADVOCACY OFFICE, TTST.
2:44:39PM TENANT SERVICES TEAM.
2:44:43PM WE WERE INSPIRED BY MIAMI-DADE, INSPIRED BY ALL THE PEOPLE
2:44:46PM THAT CAME HERE, AND WE HAVE OUR OWN OFFICE WITH, AS WAS
2:44:49PM MENTIONED THIS MORNING IN BUDGET PRESENTATION, $400,000
2:44:52PM BUDGET, BUT AS ITS STRUCTURED, IF WE NEED TO HIRE MORE
2:44:57PM PEOPLE, YOU CAN DO THAT FREELY WITHOUT THE RESTRICTION OF
2:45:04PM CALLING AN AMENDMENT.
2:45:05PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, SIR.
2:45:06PM AND THE ONLY THING WE HAVEN'T STARTED YET IS THE BAY AREA
2:45:09PM LEGAL SERVICES.
2:45:10PM I HAVE TO COMPLETE THAT CONTRACT BACK TO YOU TO APPROVE.
2:45:15PM BUT WE ARE WORKING.
2:45:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH THAT, I SAW
2:45:20PM FEES FOR THOSE THREE SERVICES THAT WERE MENTIONED.
2:45:24PM WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH THE AMOUNT THAT PEOPLE WILL BE
2:45:27PM CHARGED FOR APPEARANCE IN COURT AND WHATNOT?
2:45:30PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IT'S GOING TO BE FLAT FEES AND I BELIEVE
2:45:33PM THE AGREEMENT WILL INCLUDE THOSE RATES.
2:45:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT BEFORE
2:45:37PM WE APPROVE THE AGREEMENT?

2:45:39PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SURE.
2:45:40PM YES.
2:45:41PM WHATEVER WE NEGOTIATE, I WILL BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
2:45:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, BUT YOUR QUESTION
2:45:52PM RIGHT NOW, PLEASE.
2:45:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FLAT FEES, I THOUGHT THE CITY WAS PAYING.
2:45:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S NOT GOING TO THE CONSUMER.
2:46:00PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: ENGAGING BAY AREA LEGAL SERVICES.
2:46:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S FREE --
2:46:09PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS, WE HAVE TO GIVE
2:46:11PM A FREE SCREENING TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
2:46:14PM THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S SEEKING THE SERVICE WILL NOT PAY
2:46:17PM ANYTHING.
2:46:17PM THAT FLAT FEE IS PAID FOR BY THE CITY WHICH IS WHY WE ARE
2:46:21PM ENGAGING THE CONTRACT WITH BAY AREA LEGAL SERVICES.
2:46:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
2:46:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:46:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
2:46:31PM I'M SURE YOU HAVE GIVEN CONSIDERATION TO WHEN YOU ARE
2:46:34PM LOOKING FOR HOUSING AND SO FORTH AND SO ON, DO YOU HAVE A
2:46:39PM SPECIFIC PLAN ABOUT WHERE THE EMPLOYMENT MAY BE, THE
2:46:43PM EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, NUMBER ONE?
2:46:45PM NUMBER TWO, TRANSPORTATION, TO GET TO AND FROM.
2:46:48PM AND NUMBER THREE, WHERE ARE THE NECESSITIES FOR THEM TO BUY
2:46:52PM GROCERIES AND SO FORTH WITHIN A SET LIMIT?

2:46:55PM BECAUSE I REMEMBER 26th AVENUE AND 20th STREET,
2:46:57PM THERE WAS NO BIG DEPARTMENT STORES THERE, WAS NO BIG NOTHING
2:47:01PM THERE, AND SOMEONE IN THAT FAMILY HAD TO WALK THREE OUR FOUR
2:47:05PM MILES AND COME BACK WITH TWO BAGS OF FOOD.
2:47:08PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SO IN MY PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN HAT,
2:47:12PM EVERYTHING WE DO IN MY PORTFOLIO, WE ARE THINKING ON QUALITY
2:47:17PM OF LIFE ISSUES, AND THAT INCLUDES MOBILITY, THAT INCLUDES
2:47:21PM ACCESS TO FOOD, AND A LOT OF -- THERE'S HOW CAN WE PARTNER
2:47:28PM WITH DEVELOPERS, PRIVATE INVESTORS, ENTREPRENEURS, TO MEET
2:47:33PM THESE NEEDS, WHETHER IT'S AN ACTUAL GROCERY STORE.
2:47:38PM WE ARE TRYING TO MEET THOSE NEEDS HOLISTICALLY, ACCESS TO
2:47:42PM SCHOOLS, ALL OF IT.
2:47:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
2:47:45PM I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
2:47:46PM I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
2:47:47PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, SIR.
2:47:48PM THANK YOU.
2:47:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANKS VERY MUCH.
2:47:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR?
2:47:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS JUST ASKING IF YOU WERE ON.
2:47:54PM I DON'T SEE YOUR FACE.
2:47:55PM THERE YOU GO.
2:47:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY.
2:47:58PM MAY I, MR. CHAIR?
2:48:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.

2:48:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
2:48:06PM THIS IS PART OF A SERIES OF BUILDING BLOCKS THAT WE ARE
2:48:09PM HAVING ON THIS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
2:48:11PM SO THAT PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA CAN NO, THAT WE STAND
2:48:15PM WITH THEM, THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE READY TO BACK THEIR
2:48:19PM DIGNITY AND THAT'S WHAT IT ALL COMES DOWN TO, WHICH IS HUMAN
2:48:23PM DIGNITY, THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PLACES LIKE SILVER OAKS,
2:48:26PM TIMBER FALLS AND DIFFERENT PLACES AND WE SEE SOME OF THE
2:48:29PM LIVING CONDITIONS THERE IN TAMPA THAT THEY COLLIDE WITH
2:48:34PM HUMAN DIGNITY, AND WHAT WE EXPECT TO BE THERE FOR PEOPLE,
2:48:37PM AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A VOICE ON THAT ISSUE.
2:48:40PM I'M GLAD TO SEE THE ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS.
2:48:45PM THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
2:48:46PM WE COULD ALSO TALK TO THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BAR
2:48:48PM ASSOCIATION ABOUT GETTING PRO BONO ATTORNEYS ADDITIONAL ON
2:48:54PM THIS ISSUE.
2:48:55PM BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT
2:48:58PM THERE ARE RESOURCES, AND THAT HELP IS AVAILABLE.
2:49:01PM WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE ISSUE THAT HAPPENED AT TIMBER
2:49:04PM FALLS, I REMEMBER TALKING WITH A NICE WOMAN THAT HAD CALLED
2:49:07PM ME ON IT, AND I SAID THAT IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE MY CELL NUMBER,
2:49:12PM THIS MAY HAVE NEVER GOTTEN OUT, RIGHT?
2:49:15PM SO PEOPLE HAVE GOT TO KNOW THAT THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS
2:49:19PM NOT ONLY ON THEIR SIDE, BUT HOW TO RETRIEVE THEIR SERVICES
2:49:24PM SO THAT WE CAN PUT THE PROPER WEIGHT OF OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT

2:49:28PM ON BEHALF OF PEOPLE WHOSE DIGNITY IS BEING UNDERMINED.
2:49:33PM SO I OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT THIS.
2:49:35PM AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
2:49:37PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
2:49:38PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
2:49:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T SEE A RESOLUTION BUT IS THERE A
2:49:46PM RESOLUTION?
2:49:47PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THERE IS NO RESOLUTION.
2:49:50PM BUT YOU HAVE THE MOTION --
2:49:52PM >> I WAS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A
2:49:57PM RESOLUTION OR NOT.
2:49:59PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:50:01PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:50:03PM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:50:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
2:50:14PM >> I'M SORRY?
2:50:18PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS SHE
2:50:19PM WILL REPORT BACK EVERY TWO MONTHS ON THE PROGRAM.
2:50:25PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES.
2:50:27PM >> TWO MONTHS FROM NOW, OCTOBER 6th?
2:50:32PM >> YES.
2:50:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:50:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:50:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:50:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

2:50:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:50:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:50:44PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
2:50:47PM ABSENT.
2:50:47PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:50:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. TRAVIS.
2:50:54PM YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, CM 22-75892?
2:51:09PM S BE.
2:51:32PM >> MEGAN NEWCOMB, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
2:51:35PM I DID PROVIDE A MEMORANDUM LAST WEEK FOR YOUR REVIEW AND IT
2:51:38PM HAD A DRAFT RESOLUTION.
2:51:40PM I UPDATED THE DRAFT RESOLUTION, AND I BELIEVE MR. MASSEY HAS
2:51:44PM PROVIDED COPIES TO YOU ALL AT YOUR SEATS.
2:51:49PM AND THAT UPDATED RESOLUTION CONTAINS SOME ADDITIONAL
2:51:53PM LANGUAGE THAT AFTER MEETING WITH COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK I WAS
2:51:59PM ABLE TO ADOPT INTO THE RESOLUTION AS REQUESTED TO REVIEW THE
2:52:05PM GRACE ACT THAT WAS PROPOSED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN, TEXAS.
2:52:08PM I HAVE REVIEWED THAT LANGUAGE AND DETERMINED WHAT LANGUAGE
2:52:10PM IF ANY WE COULD ADOPT THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH STATE
2:52:16PM AND LOCAL LAW AS WELL AS CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY OF THE
2:52:21PM CITY COUNCIL.
2:52:22PM AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF ANY COUNCIL
2:52:25PM MEMBERS.
2:52:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:52:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD ALSO DIRECT MY FELLOW COUNCIL

2:52:37PM MEMBERS, I PASSED OUT A DIFFERENT RESOLUTION THIS MORNING
2:52:44PM THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS, IF I CAN GIVE THIS TO LEGAL, TOO, AND
2:52:51PM WHERE I DIFFER WITH COUNSEL ON THIS, OR I'M SORRY WITH,
2:52:57PM LEGAL ON THIS, THERE'S A PROVISION IN SECTION 2 THAT SAYS
2:53:01PM EXCEPT AS MAY BE REQUIRED BY STATE OR FEDERAL LAW, AND FOR
2:53:06PM MORE THAN 50 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN CONFRONTED WITH STATE
2:53:10PM LEGISLATURES PASSING LAW THAT WERE NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE
2:53:14PM LAW OF THE LAND, UPHELD BY THE DOBBS DECISION, IN VIOLATION
2:53:18PM OF FEDERAL LAW UNTIL THE SUPREME COURT REINTERPRETED THAT
2:53:20PM LAW. IN THIS VERY STATE LEGISLATORS IN TALLAHASSEE HAVE
2:53:23PM PASSED DOZENS OF LAWS THAT COURTS FOUND TO BE
2:53:26PM UNCONSTITUTIONAL FROM SCHOOL VOUCHERS TO VOTER SUPPRESSION
2:53:29PM ACTS TO THE DEFENDANT PENALTY STATUTE TO PARENTAL CONSENT.
2:53:32PM FLORIDA HAS PASSED LAWS THAT WERE DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL
2:53:35PM UNTIL AFTER YEARS OF EFFORTS THEY FOUND A FRIENDLY COURT.
2:53:38PM TO THIS DAY, FLORIDA STATUTE CHAPTER 256 BANS BURNING THER
2:53:45PM CONFEDERATE FLAG, A LAW THAT HAS BEEN UNCONSTITUTIONAL SINCE
2:53:50PM 1989 AND MOST MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT
2:53:53PM SUGGESTED THE RIGHT TO AN ATTORNEY WHICH AROSE FROM
2:53:56PM OVERTURNING OF FLORIDA LAW IN GIDEON VERSUS WAYNEWRIGHT IS
2:54:00PM NEXT.
2:54:00PM DALLAS HAS REPEATEDLY CHIPPED AWAY ON THE OUR MUNICIPAL
2:54:04PM AUTONOMY, WE CANNOT CEDE OR SURRENDER OUR RIGHTS ANY LONGER
2:54:13PM WHICH TAMPA RESIDENTS, AND MOST RECENTLY IN KANSAS, OPPOSE
2:54:19PM GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE.

2:54:21PM THESE EFFORTS OF LEGISLATING MUST END.
2:54:24PM TO THOSE DEDICATED BY THE STATE MAKES US ONCE AGAIN
2:54:27PM FOLLOWERS.
2:54:29PM IN THE INTEREST OF SHOWING LEADERSHIP IT IS OUR
2:54:31PM RESPONSIBILITY TO LEAD.
2:54:34PM AS FAR AS THE CRISIS PREGNANCY CENTERS THAT WERE IN SECTION
2:54:38PM 3 IN THE RESOLUTION I PASSED OUT, IT IS THE THIRD, FURTHER
2:54:46PM RESOLVED, WE WILL NOT BE COMPELLED TO SPEND TAXPAYER DOLLARS
2:54:51PM ON THESE SO-CALLED SERVICES BUT AIMED TO DECEIVE THOSE
2:54:55PM SEEKING MEDICAL CARE PROTECTED BY FLORIDA'S CONSTITUTION.
2:54:58PM AND THE LAST BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT WAS TAKEN OUT THAT
2:55:03PM I SUGGEST STAY IN REGARDING RESTRICTING EXPENDITURES, NOR
2:55:09PM WILL WE BE COERCED OUT OF HOW NOT TO SPEND OUR TAX DOLLARS.
2:55:15PM THE FEAR OF INVESTIGATION OR PROGRESSES IN OTHER STATES HAS
2:55:18PM ALREADY BED DOCTORS TO AVOID PROVIDING LIFE SAVING CARE AND
2:55:22PM PUTTING WOMEN AT THE RISK OF DYING.
2:55:26PM ON JULY 29th FROM SLATE MAGAZINE, QUOTE, DR. MUNOZ, A
2:55:32PM TEXAS OB-GYN, DID NOT PROVIDE AN ABORTION TO A WOMAN IN THE
2:55:36PM MIDST OF A MISCARRIAGE.
2:55:39PM THE FETAL HEART BEAT HAD NOT YET STOPPED SO HE WAITED UNTIL
2:55:42PM SHE LOST MULTIPLE LITER OF BLOOD.
2:55:45PM BY THAT POINT SHE HAD DEVELOPED MAJOR COMPLICATIONS THAT
2:55:48PM REQUIRED SURGERY AND HAD BEEN PUT ON A BREATHING MACHINE.
2:55:50PM IT'S WHY ANOTHER TEXAS PATIENT UNDERGOING A MISCARRIAGE
2:55:54PM COULD NOT TERMINATE.

2:55:56PM IT'S WHY 28 OTHER TEXAS PATIENTS EXPERIENCING A FAILED
2:56:00PM PREGNANCY WERE DENIED AN ABORTION A MAJORITY OF WHOM HAD
2:56:03PM SERIOUS INFECTIONS AND BLEEDING.
2:56:04PM IT'S WHY YET MORE TEXAS PATIENTS WERE FORCED TO SUFFER
2:56:07PM THROUGH SEPSIS AND HEMORRHAGE BEFORE DOCTORS WOULD TERMINATE
2:56:10PM THEIR DOOMED PREGNANCIES, UNQUOTE.
2:56:13PM WE ARE OBLIGATED TO ELIMINATE THIS AMBIGUITY WITH STRONG
2:56:17PM COMMITMENT THAT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS WILLING NOT BE
2:56:20PM INVESTIGATED OR POINT OF ORDER IN THIS CITY FOR PROVIDING
2:56:22PM MEDICAL CARE.
2:56:25PM THOSE ARE MY ONLY OBJECTIONS TO THE CITY LANGUAGE.
2:56:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
2:56:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:56:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
2:56:40PM I DON'T HAVE THIS WITH ME BECAUSE I AM IN MY OFFICE.
2:56:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE GOING TO SEND TO THE YOU RIGHT NOW.
2:56:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:56:52PM I WILL MEET YOU IN THE HALL.
2:56:54PM SO I WILL COME LATE TO THIS.
2:56:57PM BUT I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
2:56:59PM THANK YOU.
2:57:01PM >> IF I MAY TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT THE
2:57:09PM CITY'S PROPOSED RESOLUTION AND THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION ARE
2:57:13PM REFERRED TO BY COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK THAT WAS PROVIDED, THE
2:57:19PM DIFFERENCE DIFFERENCES REALLY ARE ON PAGE 2 OF 3 ON THE

2:57:23PM RESOLUTION PROVIDED BY THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA,
2:57:27PM THAT'S COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S, WHERE IT SAYS BE IT FURTHER
2:57:31PM RESOLVED.
2:57:31PM SO PRIOR TO THAT, THE LANGUAGE IS IDENTICAL IN THE CITY'S
2:57:36PM PROPOSED RESOLUTION, AND THIS PROPOSED RESOLUTION.
2:57:39PM SO I BELIEVE WHERE IT FIRST SAYS BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED,
2:57:46PM THAT'S THE PARAGRAPH WHERE THE CITY RESOLUTION WOULD INSERT
2:57:50PM THE LANGUAGE, EXCEPT AS MAYBE REQUIRED BY STATE OR FEDERAL
2:57:54PM LAW.
2:57:55PM AND THEN SKIPPING OVER THE NEXT BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED,
2:57:59PM GOING TO THE LAST ONE ON THAT PAGE WHERE IT SAYS THE CITY
2:58:02PM COUNCIL THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL NOT APPROVE THE APPROPRIATION
2:58:05PM OF FUNDS FOR ANY ORGANIZATION OR ENTITY OPERATING CRISIS
2:58:08PM PREGNANCY CENTER WHEN IT'S NOT INCLUDED, AND THEN THE LAST
2:58:13PM PARAGRAPH ON THE TOP, MY COPY OF THE TOP OF PAGE 3.
2:58:17PM SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY PORTIONS THAT I THINK ARE
2:58:21PM INCONSISTENT, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG,
2:58:23PM COUNCILMEMBER.
2:58:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS RIGHT.
2:58:26PM AND THOSE ARE THE THREE PORTIONS THAT I 301 JUST SPOKE TO.
2:58:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA?
2:58:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
2:58:33PM LET ME ASK SOMETHING.
2:58:34PM AND I WANT TO SAY WHEN COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MADE THIS MOTION
2:58:39PM AFTER SOME SILENCE I WAS GLAD TO SECOND SO I HAVE NOTHING

2:58:43PM AGAINST THE INTENT OF THIS.
2:58:44PM BUT LET ME ASK A QUESTION, IF I MAY.
2:58:48PM TO LOOK AT THIS, BECAUSE AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I
2:58:52PM KNOW WHAT I AM VOTING FOR, ET CETERA, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW
2:58:55PM MUCH LEGAL HAS GOTTEN A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS, ET CETERA.
2:58:59PM MAY WE HAVE AN EXTRA WEEK ON THIS?
2:59:01PM WOULD THAT BE -- WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO THAT, MA'AM?
2:59:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, THIS ACTUALLY WAS SENT OUT YESTERDAY
2:59:09PM BY E-MAIL.
2:59:12PM AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY ON
2:59:16PM THIS ALL WEEK.
2:59:16PM SO WE HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH.
2:59:18PM AND THIS IS WHERE WE LANDED.
2:59:20PM AND THIS WAS ALSO PROVIDED I BELIEVE BY THE CITY YESTERDAY.
2:59:24PM OR DID YOU JUST PROVIDE TO THE ME?
2:59:28PM >> I THINK I JUST PROVIDED IT TO YOU.
2:59:29PM IT WAS YESTERDAY, YES, MA'AM.
2:59:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: UM, I WOULD REALLY PREFER TO VOTE ON IT
2:59:39PM TODAY, UNLESS OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE WILLING --
2:59:44PM >>> I WOULD RATHER WAIT AND LET COUNCILMAN VIERA TO DIGEST
2:59:49PM IT.
2:59:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO DID YOU ALL ACTUALLY RECEIVE THIS E-MAIL
2:59:55PM AND READ IT THEN?
3:00:04PM WE ARE NOT HERE UNTIL THE 18th.
3:00:07PM SO IF SOMEONE ELSE MAKES THAT MOTION, BUT I WILL NOT.

3:00:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, MAY I?
3:00:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MR. VIERA.
3:00:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND AGAIN I AM JUST TRYING TO -- I JUST GOT
3:00:20PM THIS.
3:00:21PM I MEAN, IF JUST AGAIN HAVE TIME.
3:00:25PM I WAS GLAD AGAIN TO SECOND THIS MOTION, AND THEN I WAS GLAD
3:00:30PM TO DO THAT, LIKE I SAID.
3:00:32PM BUT I WOULD JUST ASK THE VERY NEXT MEETING, ITEM NUMBER 1,
3:00:36PM WHATEVER IT IS, THAT WOULD BE MY RESPECTFUL REQUEST FOR
3:00:40PM THIS, BECAUSE I NEED TIME TO SEE WHAT EXACTLY IS BEING
3:00:44PM REQUESTED.
3:00:45PM AND IF THERE'S AN OBJECTION FROM LEGAL, I JUST WANT TO TALK
3:00:48PM WITH THEM, A RESPECTFUL MOTION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW
3:00:53PM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL ABOUT THAT.
3:00:55PM AND AGAIN, I SAY THAT HAVING SECONDED THE ORIGINAL MOTION
3:00:58PM AND BEING GLAD TO DO SO IN THAT REGARD.
3:01:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
3:01:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
3:01:07PM I GOT THIS, I GOT THE OLD ONE, BUT I DIDN'T GET THEM IN TIME
3:01:11PM TO READ.
3:01:12PM I HAVE TO LOOK AT BOTH TO SEE.
3:01:14PM BUT I AM GOING TO TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY THAT MAYBE I
3:01:17PM SHOULDN'T SAY BUT I WILL.
3:01:18PM SOME FIFTY SOME YEARS AGO, MY FAMILY EXPERIENCED THIS.
3:01:22PM YOU SEE, MY WIFE WAS PREGNANT, AND THE DOCTOR WAS A VERY

3:01:28PM REPUTABLE DOCTOR, HIS NAME WAS JOHN GLEN, AND HE FINALLY THE
3:01:34PM EXAMINED WIFE, EVERYTHING WAS GOING FINE, HE SAID I GOT BAD
3:01:39PM NEWS, THE FETUS IS DEAD.
3:01:41PM SO WE SET THE APPOINTMENT TO GO TO A HOSPITAL AND HAD THE
3:01:47PM BABY REMOVED.
3:01:48PM HOWEVER, WHEN SHE WENT INTO THE HOSPITAL, THERE WOULDN'T DO
3:01:52PM THE ABORTION.
3:01:53PM CALL IT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
3:01:56PM BECAUSE ANOTHER FETUS THAT WAS THREE MONTHS OLD.
3:01:59PM SO SHE HAD TO WAIT, NOT ME, SHE'S THE ONE WHO DID IT, HAD TO
3:02:04PM WAIT FOR THE DEAD FETUS BACTERIA TO KILL THE OTHER FETUS
3:02:08PM THAT WAS THREE MONTHS OLD.
3:02:13PM AND YOU THINK IT WAS BAD ON ME.
3:02:15PM YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW IT WAS ON HER.
3:02:18PM THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
3:02:20PM THANK YOU.
3:02:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:02:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT, THIS IS A
3:02:29PM RESOLUTION, NOTE AN ORDINANCE.
3:02:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:02:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK MOST OF THE GENTLEMEN ON THIS DAIS
3:02:46PM SUPPORT YOUR MOTION BECAUSE WE ARE JUST GETTING THE CITY'S
3:02:49PM PORTION RIGHT NOW, AND THEN YOU BROUGHT UP SOME POINTS THAT
3:02:56PM YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IN THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION.
3:03:03PM SO I THINK JUST BEING FAIR TO SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS,

3:03:07PM IT MAY BE BEST TO WAIT.
3:03:11PM WE HAVE DOCUMENTS.
3:03:12PM NOW WE CAN COMPARE WHAT YOU ACTUALLY WANT IN THERE AND NOW
3:03:15PM WE CAN GO BACK AND ASK AND ASK QUESTIONS TO MAKE SURE IT'S
3:03:22PM WHAT YOU WANT.
3:03:23PM THIS IS YOUR RESOLUTION.
3:03:25PM YOU ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.
3:03:26PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
3:03:27PM BUT IT'S COME BACK.
3:03:32PM I'M SURE THAT --
3:03:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT SURE OF ANYTHING.
3:03:45PM I CAN I'M PRETTY SURE YOU CAN GET WHAT YOU NEED.
3:03:50PM I JUST BELIEVE THIS IS A VERY COMPASSIONATE ISSUE.
3:03:55PM I THINK TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT REALLY MOVE THAT YOU WANT
3:04:00PM MOVED
3:04:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, I AM WILLING FOR OTHERS TO MAKE A
3:04:12PM MOTION.
3:04:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M LOOKING FOR A DATE TO CONTINUE IT
3:04:15PM TO.
3:04:15PM YOU HAVE CRA ON THE 18th.
3:04:17PM THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
3:04:18PM YOU HAVE 16th SPECIAL CALLED BUDGET.
3:04:22PM IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE EVENING SESSION OF AUGUST 18th.
3:04:26PM IF NOT, IT WOULD GO TO AUGUST 25th WHICH IS A REGULAR
3:04:30PM DAYTIME SESSION.

3:04:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I, MR. CHAIR?
3:04:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:04:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
3:04:37PM I HEARD FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TALK ABOUT A BUDGET.
3:04:42PM CAN WE TALK ABOUT IT AT THAT TIME JUST TO EXPEDITE IT?
3:04:45PM AGAIN, I THINK COUNCILMEMBER --
3:04:50PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE 16th IS A SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP
3:04:55PM SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN CONSIDER IT THEN.
3:04:57PM THERE IS A MEETING ON THE 8:00th.
3:05:01PM THAT'S YOUR FIRST WHERE YOU COULD POTENTIALLY HEAR IT.
3:05:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO PUT THIS ON THE 5:01 P.M.
3:05:07PM AUGUST 18th ITEM NUMBER 1 ON THE AGENDA.
3:05:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'LL SECOND.
3:05:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:05:17PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:05:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
3:05:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
3:05:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
3:05:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
3:05:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
3:05:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
3:05:30PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO AND
3:05:32PM CARLSON BEING ABSENT.
3:05:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AUGUST 18th.
3:05:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.

3:06:02PM FILE CM 22-76272.
3:06:07PM >> REBECCA JOHNS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
3:06:37PM I REALIZE YOU ARE JUST SEEING IT NOW AFTER SIX DAYS.
3:06:43PM WE FINISHED IT LAST NIGHT.
3:06:45PM SO I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE ORDINANCE SINCE YOU ARE NOT
3:06:47PM FAMILIAR WITH IT.
3:06:52PM I ALWAYS GET THIS UPSIDE DOWN SO LET'S SEE.
3:06:55PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: GO TO THE ELMO, PLEASE.
3:07:14PM >> REBECCA JOHNS: THE ORDINANCE PROVIDES THAT A LANDLORD
3:07:17PM CANNOT INCREASE RENT WHEN A RENTAL UNIT MORE THAN ONCE A
3:07:21PM YEAR.
3:07:21PM IT ALSO PROVIDES THAT A LANDLORD CANNOT INCREASE THE RENT BY
3:07:24PM MORE THAN THE INCREASE IN THE CPI AS COMPARED TO THE SAME
3:07:28PM MONTH THE PRIOR YEAR.
3:07:30PM SO YOU WOULD LOOK AT RIGHT NOW AUGUST OF -- JULY OF 2022
3:07:36PM VERSUS JULY OF 2021 AND LOOK AT IT AT THE PRIOR YEAR.
3:07:46PM WE HAVE DEFINED A RESIDENTIAL RENTAL UNIT AS A UNIT IN A
3:07:52PM MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURE OF FOUR OR MORE DWELLING UNITS THAT
3:07:54PM ARE RENTED TO RESIDENTIAL USE, A RESIDENTIAL RENTAL UNIT
3:07:59PM DOES NOT INCLUDE, AND THESE ARE THE EXCEPTIONS FROM THE
3:08:02PM FLORIDA STATUTE.
3:08:03PM RENTAL UNITS USED OR OFFERED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES AS A
3:08:07PM SEASONAL OR TOURIST UNIT PURSUANT TO SECTION 166.034 FLORIDA
3:08:12PM STATUTES, THAT INCLUDES UNITS LOCATED IN THE HOTEL, MOTEL,
3:08:15PM OR OTHER SEMINAR ESTABLISHMENTS WHERE UNITS ARE RENTED

3:08:18PM PRIMARILY TO TRANSIENT GUESTS.
3:08:21PM A RENTAL UNIT DOES NOT INCLUDE RENTAL UNITS USED OR OFFERED
3:08:24PM FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES AS A SECOND HOUSING UNIT.
3:08:28PM ALSO PURSUANT TO SECTION 156.0434.
3:08:33PM RENTAL UNITS LOCATED IN THE LUXURY APARTMENT BUILDINGS 434,
3:08:39PM WHICH FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE ORDINANCE MEANS ONE WHEREIN ON
3:08:43PM JANUARY 1st, 1977, THE AGGREGATE RENT DUE ON A MONTHLY
3:08:50PM UNITS AS STATED IN LEASES OR RENT LISTS EXISTING ON THAT
3:08:53PM DATE WAS $250 A MONTH.
3:08:56PM THAT IS DIRECTLY FROM THE FLORIDA STATUTE.
3:08:59PM DWELLING UNITS LOCATED IN THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, TOWN HOME,
3:09:02PM CONDOMINIUM, OR MOBILE HOME, AND MOBILE HOME LOTS, MOBILE
3:09:06PM HOME LOT RENT BY CHAPTER 23, RENTAL UNITS THAT A GOVERNMENT
3:09:12PM AGENCY OR AUTHORITY OWN, OPERATES OR OTHERWISE MANAGES.
3:09:22PM DWELLING UNITS LOCATED IN A COOPERATIVE APARTMENT OCCUPIED
3:09:26PM BY OWNER OF A PROPRIETARY LEASE.
3:09:29PM DWELLING C UNITS LOCATED IN DISABILITY FACILITY, HOSPITAL,
3:09:32PM NURSING HOME, A ASSISTIVE CARE, COMMUNITY OR OTHER HEALTH
3:09:35PM CARE FACILITY LICENSED UNDER CERTAIN CHAPTERS OF FLORIDA
3:09:39PM STATUTES.
3:09:40PM RENTAL UNITS FOR WHICH THE LANDLORD RECEIVES FEDERAL, STATE
3:09:43PM OR LOCAL HOUSING SUBSIDIES.
3:09:49PM RENTAL UNIT CURRENTLY UNDER RENT CONTROL BY VIRTUE OF LOCAL,
3:09:52PM STATE OR FEDERAL HOUSING SUBSIDIES, AND NEW RENTAL UNITS
3:09:55PM THAT HAVE RECEIVED A CERTIFICATE OF OCTOBER PAN CITY ON OR

3:09:59PM AFTER THE DATE OF THIS ORDINANCE.
3:10:03PM WE HAVE ALSO GONE FROM A PROCESS FOR AN EXCEPTION INTO THE
3:10:09PM ORDINANCE.
3:10:10PM WE HAVE LOOKED AT WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAVE DONE.
3:10:15PM AND IN ORDER TO INCREASE -- TO MAKE THIS LEGALLY MORE
3:10:23PM DEFENSIVE WHERE A LANDLORD HAS THE ABILITY TO APPLY FOR THE
3:10:27PM EXCEPTION, IT COMES TO CITY COUNCIL, YOU WILL HEAR IT AT A
3:10:31PM PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN YOU WOULD DECIDE.
3:10:35PM THOSE EXCEPTIONS ARE FOR THE FOLLOWING FACTORS COME INTO
3:10:40PM PLAY.
3:10:42PM INABILITY TO RECEIVE A FAIR AND REASONABLE RETURN ON ITS
3:10:50PM INVESTMENT.
3:10:51PM WHEN THE APPLICATION IS MADE THE FACTORS THAT YOU WOULD
3:10:53PM CONSIDER ARE CHANGES IN PROPERTY TAXES, UNAVOIDABLE
3:10:58PM INCREASES IN MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING EXPENSES, THE COST OF
3:11:02PM PLANNED OR COMPLETED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, INCREASES OR
3:11:06PM DECREASES IN THE NUMBER OF TENANTS OCCUPYING THE UNIT,
3:11:10PM SUBSTANTIAL DETERIORATION OF THE UNIT OTHER THAN NORMAL WEAR
3:11:15PM AND TEAR, THE INABILITY OF THE LANDLORDS TO BE PROVIDE
3:11:18PM ADEQUATE HOUSING SOURCES, THE RESELLING RENT INCREASES OR
3:11:26PM DECREASES.
3:11:49PM [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
3:11:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT.
3:12:02PM HOWEVER, WHAT YOU JUST SHOWED ON THE ELMO IS THE SAME THING
3:12:05PM THAT -- THE SAME THING YOU LISTED.

3:12:20PM [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
3:12:21PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: PROBABLY IS.
3:12:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HEAT WEPT UP.
3:12:36PM WATER BILLS WENT UP.
3:12:37PM THEY WERE ALL SAYING THESE THINGS YOU JUST LISTED.
3:12:40PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: AND WE BUILT THIS IN BECAUSE WHEN WE
3:12:43PM LOOKED AROUND THE COUNTRY MOST OF THE RENT STABILIZATION
3:12:46PM ORDINANCES, WHICH GRANTED THERE AREN'T MANY, BUT MOST OF
3:12:49PM THEM DID INCLUDE THE SUGGESTIONS, BECAUSE WHAT THAT DOES IS
3:12:56PM MAKE IT MORE LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE.
3:13:00PM >> THE REASON I SAY IT PROPERTY TAXES HAVE GONE UP,
3:13:17PM INSURANCE HAS GONE UP.
3:13:25PM THE PROBLEM IS THEY RAISE IT 4 OR $5,000.
3:13:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GOODS, DON'T GET ME WRONG.
3:13:30PM SHE LISTED ALL THESE THINGS.
3:13:32PM BUT PEOPLE WILL BE COMING IN HERE NOW AND FILLING UP THIS
3:13:34PM ROOM EACH AND EVERY MONTH.
3:13:37PM AND I UNDERSTAND COSTS HAVE GONE UP.
3:13:41PM BUT WHY ARE THEY GOING UP THREE OR FOUR TIMES IN ONE YEAR IF
3:13:46PM SOMEONE HAS A LEASE?
3:13:47PM >> AND I UNDERSTAND --
3:13:53PM [SOUNDING GAVEL]
3:13:54PM IT'S A QUESTION.
3:13:55PM I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY AT LAW.
3:13:57PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE SAYING THAT YEAR VERSUS SOMETHING

3:14:04PM WITH TWICE OR THE ACTUAL PRICE THEY ARE INCREASING IS THREE
3:14:10PM OR FOUR TIMES.
3:14:12PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: AGAIN THIS WOULD COME BEFORE YOU BUT IF
3:14:15PM YOU HAVE THE LANDLORD THAT INCREASE IT IS RENT $500 A MONTH
3:14:18PM AND HAS NOTHING TO BACK IT UP, THAT OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE UP TO
3:14:22PM YOU WHETHER YOU ARE GOING TO APPROVE IT.
3:14:24PM BUT THOSE LANDLORDS ARE NOT GOING TO FALL WITHIN THE
3:14:28PM EXCEPTION.
3:14:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:14:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK YOU HAD A SLIDE BEFORE THAT SAID
3:14:34PM THAT IT WON'T APPLY TO -- CORRECT?
3:14:44PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THAT IS CORRECT.
3:14:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED TWO
3:14:49PM TIMES OR MORE.
3:14:49PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: IF I AM FOLLOWING -- OPERATED OR MANAGED
3:14:58PM BY A GOVERNMENT ENTITY WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE IS WHAT YOU ARE
3:15:03PM TALKING ABOUT.
3:15:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY CAN RECEIVE MONEY BUT THEY ARE
3:15:06PM NOT --
3:15:08PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: OH, RIGHT.
3:15:11PM WE CAN'T ENFORCE ANOTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITY TO DO.
3:15:14PM OBVIOUSLY, WHEN THE CITY DOES -- I AM NOT GOING TO SAY FROM
3:15:20PM THE BEGINNING OF TIME BUT THEY DO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
3:15:24PM RESTRICTIONS PLACED ON THEM.
3:15:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I APOLOGIZE.

3:15:28PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: SO THE LAST THING IS JUST THE ENFORCEMENT
3:15:35PM OF A VIOLATION.
3:15:42PM [NO ENCODER] [NO ENCODER]
3:15:51PM SO THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT OUT IN A COURT OF LAW SO WE HAVE
3:16:00PM GIVEN THEM THAT RIGHT.
3:16:01PM WE ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS ORDINANCE THE BALLOT LANGUAGE THAT
3:16:03PM WOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS TO GO ON
3:16:06PM THE BALLOT.
3:16:07PM SO ALL OF THAT WOULD BE APPROVED AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE.
3:16:12PM SO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ORDINANCE?
3:16:16PM I DO, AGAIN, BECAUSE I AM A LAWYER, HAVE TO REITERATE THE
3:16:19PM FACT THAT NO JURISDICTION HAS DONE THIS SINCE 1977 WHEN THE
3:16:23PM ORDINANCE WAS ENACTED.
3:16:25PM THERE ARE MANY UNCLEAR PROVISIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE
3:16:31PM INCLUDING THE DEFINITION OF A LUXURY APARTMENT, INCLUDING
3:16:34PM THE DEFINITION OF A HOUSING EMERGENCY.
3:16:37PM AND SO THE LIKELIHOOD OF US BEING CHALLENGED IS EXTREMELY
3:16:41PM HIGH, AND WE CAN'T PREDICT THE OUT COME OF IT NOW.
3:16:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:16:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
3:16:49PM PRESENTATION.
3:16:49PM I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
3:16:52PM NUMBER ONE --
3:16:54PM >> ARE YOU FINISHED?
3:16:56PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: I AM FINISHED.

3:16:57PM HOWEVER, MS. TRAVIS DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU.
3:17:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN I WILL WAIT FOR MS. TRAVIS AND
3:17:03PM THEN TAKE IT ALL AT ONCE.
3:17:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET ME GO DOWN THE LINE.
3:17:06PM AGAIN I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING YOU.
3:17:07PM I NORMALLY DON'T DO THAT.
3:17:09PM I ALWAYS LIKE TO GET THE PRESENTATION ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
3:17:11PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME?
3:17:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, I SEE A FEW THINGS, I DON'T SEE THE
3:17:20PM 5%.
3:17:22PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DIABETES THE CPI
3:17:24PM INSTEAD OF THE 5%.
3:17:26PM HOWEVER, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED TO LIMIT IT TO
3:17:32PM THE LESSER OF THE CPI OR 5%.
3:17:35PM THEN WE CAN CHANGE THAT BEFORE SECOND READING AND BRING IT
3:17:38PM BACK.
3:17:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:17:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS NOT LOST ON ME THAT WE LITERALLY WERE
3:17:46PM JUST HANDED THIS, AND BEFORE WE DECIDED TO RAISE MY PREVIOUS
3:17:54PM RESOLUTION.
3:17:54PM SO I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO REQUEST FIVE MINUTES BECAUSE I
3:17:56PM KNOW -- I KNOW THAT WE CAN'T BUT I HAVEN'T READ THIS.
3:18:04PM I WOULD LIKE FIVE MINUTES TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON THIS AND
3:18:07PM NOT YOUR PRESENTATION AND THIS AT THE SAME TIME.
3:18:09PM IS THAT REASONABLE BEFORE WE HAVE MS. TRAVIS COME SO THAT WE

3:18:14PM KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT?
3:18:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITHOUT OBJECTIONS WE ARE IN RECESS FOR
3:18:18PM FIVE MINUTES.
3:18:18PM [RECESS]
3:26:33PM (ROLL CALL)
3:29:44PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
3:29:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:29:52PM MS. TRAVIS.
3:29:53PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: HELLO.
3:29:57PM GOOD AFTERNOON.
3:29:59PM WE MEET AGAIN.
3:30:03PM MAY I HAVE MY PRESENT ACE, PLEASE?
3:30:05PM SO ATTORNEY JOHNS JUST PRESENTED THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU
3:30:08PM REQUESTED STAFF PREPARE FOR YOU.
3:30:10PM AND I AM COMING BEFORE YOU AS YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
3:30:13PM PROFESSIONAL WITH 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE, AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO
3:30:18PM MOST OF YOU ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE AND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT
3:30:22PM THAT IT WILL HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY.
3:30:24PM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO WALK THROUGH THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE
3:30:28PM SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY RIGHT WHERE WE ARE, WITH HOUSING.
3:30:33PM A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS STARTED IN BUDGET ABOUT PUTTING
3:30:37PM RESOURCES FOR HOUSING, TALKED ABOUT SERVICES, RESOURCES FOR
3:30:41PM HOUSING.
3:30:41PM SO I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT WITH YOU AND GET
3:30:45PM TO THE ECONOMICS AS TO WHY THE RENT STABILIZATION ORDINANCE

3:30:49PM IS BAD POLICY FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE.
3:30:55PM WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW IS REALLY A HOUSING SUPPLY AND DEMAND
3:31:00PM IMBALANCE.
3:31:01PM THE REASON THE RENTAL RATES ARE PUSHING UP SO HIGH IS
3:31:05PM BECAUSE THERE IS NO COMPETITION IN THE MARKET AS FAR AS
3:31:09PM APARTMENTS.
3:31:10PM IF THERE WERE MORE VACANT APARTMENT UNITS, THE LANDLORDS,
3:31:16PM THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES WOULD BE LOWERING THEIR RATES TRYING
3:31:18PM TO CAPTURE YOUR BUSINESS.
3:31:20PM SO WE ARE IN A HOUSING SUPPLY AND DEMAND IMBALANCE.
3:31:23PM AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING, WE TALK ABOUT THIS.
3:31:27PM I STARTED IN JANUARY AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT ALMOST
3:31:30PM EVERY COUNCIL MEETING.
3:31:31PM YOU HAVE HAD HEARD THE PASSIONATE PLEAS FROM THE RESIDENTS
3:31:36PM WITHIN THE CITY ASKING FOR HELP.
3:31:38PM SO I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE HOUSING CONTINUUM OF
3:31:41PM CARE, AND WORST-CASE SCENARIO, WE HAVE HOMELESSNESS, AND
3:31:46PM THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SPECTRUM YOU HAVE MARKET RATE
3:31:50PM HOMES.
3:31:50PM AND SO THERE IS A SPACE FOR ALL OF US, ORGANIZATIONS ALONG
3:31:56PM THIS CONTINUUM AND CITY OF TAMPA IS NOT OH ON THE RESOURCE
3:32:01PM IN THIS HOUSING CONTINUUM OF CARE.
3:32:04PM THE EMERGENCY SHELTER WE HAVE LAUNCHED OUR HOMELESS SERVICES
3:32:09PM TEAM THAT HAS PROVIDED 770 SERVICES AND TOUCHED 467 CLIENT,
3:32:19PM IN 2022 WE BUDGETED $8 MILLION FOR HOMELESS SERVICES.

3:32:23PM THIS ALSO INCLUDES HOMELESS PREVENTION SERVICES.
3:32:26PM SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WRAP AROUND CARE AND PREVENTION
3:32:30PM METHOD, SOMETIMES WE ARE PAYING RENT AND JUST KEEPING PEOPLE
3:32:34PM HOUSED.
3:32:35PM A LOT OF THIS WORK WE DO WITH OUR NOT-FOR-PROFIT PARTNERS,
3:32:39PM ESPECIALLY WITH EMERGENCY SHELTER LIKE TAMPA HOPE.
3:32:44PM THIS EVENING ON YOUR AGENDA, ON YOUR COUNCIL AGENDA, YOU
3:32:47PM HAVE 6.6 MILLION, AND THAT IS FUNDING THAT WILL BE DEDICATED
3:32:52PM TO HOMELESSNESS.
3:32:54PM IT'S YOUR HOME, AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, FUNDING, ANOTHER 6.6.
3:32:59PM WHEN YOU THINK HOMELESSNESS IT'S NOT JUST FOR PEOPLE THAT
3:33:03PM ARE UNHOUSED WITH YOU ALSO PREVENTIVE MEASURES KEEPING
3:33:06PM PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES SO A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND
3:33:09PM WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WHAT YOU HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS THIS
3:33:11PM MORNING AND EVERY COUNCIL MEETING, IS THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT
3:33:16PM THEY HAVE A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS, THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE
3:33:18PM THEY ARE GOING TO LIVE, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MONEY
3:33:23PM TO JUST MEET THEIR BASIC NEEDS.
3:33:25PM I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH WHAT WE HAVE HEARD THAT HOUSING
3:33:27PM SHOULD BE A BASIC RIGHT OF EVERY HUMAN BEING.
3:33:32PM SO THAT'S A LITTLE OFF TANGENT, SORRY.
3:33:36PM I GET SIDETRACKED.
3:33:37PM I PROMISE I WILL GET BACK ON THERE.
3:33:39PM IN THIS CONTINUUM OF CARE YOU HAVE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING,
3:33:46PM COMMUNITY HOUSING, AFFORDABLE RENTAL.

3:33:48PM CITY OF TAMPA IS NOT THE ONLY PROVIDER.
3:33:50PM THERE IS TONS OF MONEY THAT'S GOING TO -- EXCUSE ME -- THA,
3:33:58PM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
3:34:00PM THANK YOU.
3:34:01PM I WENT BLANK.
3:34:02PM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY NOT FOR PROFIT PARTNERS.
3:34:04PM AGAIN, WE ARE NOT THE ONLY PROVIDER IN HERE, BUT WHAT YOU
3:34:09PM HAVE DONE THROUGH POLICY, THROUGH BUDGETING, THROUGH
3:34:13PM ALLOCATIONS, IS THAT YOU HAVE CONTINUED TO TRY TO ENSURE
3:34:17PM HOUSING STABILITY FOR TAMPA RESIDENTS.
3:34:22PM THE OTHER PART OF THE HOUSING IS THE AFFORDABLE HOME
3:34:25PM OWNERSHIP AND MARKET RENTAL.
3:34:27PM THIS IS WHERE YOUR COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY HAS REALLY
3:34:30PM STEPPED UP.
3:34:32PM ASSISTANCE TO BE STACKED ON TOP OF FEDERALLY FUNDED.
3:34:36PM THIS IS WHERE THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND DEVELOPERS ARE ALSO
3:34:39PM PARTICIPATING IN THIS.
3:34:40PM AND THEN AGAIN WE HAVE GENERAL FUND MONEY THAT HAS BEEN
3:34:43PM ALLOCATED TO ASSIST WITH GETTING PEOPLE IN HOMES AND HAVING
3:34:48PM THEM TAKE A PART OF HOME OWNERSHIP AND BUILD GENERATIONAL
3:34:53PM WEALTH.
3:34:55PM SO IS SUPPLY AND DEMAND IMBALANCE THAT WE HAVE IS REALLY
3:34:58PM FALLING INTO THE MIDDLE OF THIS CONTINUUM.
3:35:01PM IT'S COMMUNITY HOUSING WHICH IS PROVIDED BY THE HOUSING
3:35:03PM AUTHORITY, AFFORDABLE RENTAL, AFFORDABLE HOME OWNERSHIP,

3:35:08PM MARKET RENTAL AND HOME.
3:35:10PM OUR VACANCY RATE IS INCREDIBLY TIGHT.
3:35:14PM EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE HOME THAT COSTS ABOUT
3:35:17PM $300,000, HOW MUCH CAN YOU AFFORD, WHAT YOU WOULD PAY IN A
3:35:23PM MORTGAGE PAYMENT $300,000 HOME IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU
3:35:28PM COULD GET.
3:35:29PM SO IF YOU HAVE A $1600 MORTGAGE, YOU CAN GET A HOUSE, BUT A
3:35:34PM $1600 RENTAL IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
3:35:37PM AND SO THERE IS JUST NOT ENOUGH SUPPLY.
3:35:40PM I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE SUPPLY IMBALANCE REALLY
3:35:43PM STARTED PRECOVID, AND THIS ADMINISTRATION KNEW THAT
3:35:48PM AFFORDABILITY, ONE OF THE PRIMARY PILLARS OF THE
3:35:53PM ADMINISTRATION, BUT THIS HAS BEEN REALLY A PERFECT STORM.
3:35:56PM WE HAVE UNPRECEDENTED POPULATION INCREASE, WITH THOUSANDS OF
3:36:00PM PEOPLE MIGRATING AND MOVING WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS.
3:36:04PM OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS, BETWEEN 2010 AND 2020, WE HAVE HAD
3:36:07PM OVER 50,000 PEOPLE MOVE OF TAMPA.
3:36:11PM WE HAVE RECORD LOW MORTGAGE RATES.
3:36:13PM PEOPLE ARE PURCHASING PROPERTY VIRTUALLY BECAUSE NOW THEY
3:36:16PM ARE WORKING FROM HOME DURING COVID, THEY CAN WOULD WORK FROM
3:36:21PM ANYWHERE, WHY NOT COME TO TAMPA?
3:36:23PM THERE WAS A MORATORIUM ON RENTAL EVICTION SEWS THAT KIND OF
3:36:27PM STALLED RENTAL RATES AS WELL.
3:36:29PM ON TOP OF THAT WE HAVE SUPPLY SHORTAGES.
3:36:31PM AND SO IT REALLY HAS BECOME A PERFECT STORM FOR THIS SUPPLY

3:36:35PM AND DEMAND IMBALANCE.
3:36:36PM I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S A TREND THAT HAPPENS EVERY ONCE
3:36:42PM IN A WHILE, THE MARKET BALANCE, AND THEY BECOME I WANT TO BE
3:36:45PM SAY -- IT'S HOW WE ESCALATED, BUT IT IS SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
3:36:52PM SO WHAT HAS BEEN DONE SO FAR IN TOWARD AFFORDABILITY, I
3:37:01PM HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS GOING TO COUNCIL SAYING YOU NEED TO
3:37:03PM DO ANYTHING, YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.
3:37:06PM YOU HAVE ACTUALLY DONE A LOT, AND I THINK YOU NEED TO GIVE
3:37:09PM YOURSELVES CREDIT FOR THAT.
3:37:10PM EVEN VOTING TO CONSIDER THIS ORDINANCE TODAY HAS CAPTURED
3:37:14PM HEADLINES, HAS CAPTURED LANDLORDS' ATTENTION THAT THIS IS AN
3:37:19PM ISSUE.
3:37:20PM I THINK YOU SHOULD GIVE YOURSELVES CREDIT.
3:37:22PM AND TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S POINT AND COUNCILMAN GUDES, TO
3:37:25PM SHAKE SOME TREES AND GET THE CONVERSATION GOING.
3:37:27PM YOU HAVE DONE THAT.
3:37:28PM SO OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, YOU HAVE DEDICATED OVER $100
3:37:32PM MILLION TOWARDS HOUSING.
3:37:33PM YOU HAVE DIRECTED STAFF TO WORK ON LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
3:37:37PM CHANGES WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS A SPECIFIED USE.
3:37:39PM YOU HAVE EXPANDED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
3:37:41PM YOU HAVE ADDED ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO OUR RENTAL AND MOVE-IN
3:37:46PM ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
3:37:47PM OUR IN-FILL LAND BANK PROGRAM PHASE 3.
3:37:52PM ABOUT TO LAUNCH SHORTLY.

3:37:53PM WE HAVE THE HOUSING HOTLINE.
3:37:55PM WE HAVE THE HOUSING NEEDS ANALYSIS THAT YOU ASKED US TO
3:37:57PM BEGIN WORKING ON.
3:38:00PM THEN WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.
3:38:02PM I TALKED TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
3:38:05PM THESE SHALL NEW UNITS THAT HAVE COME ONLINE FROM 2019
3:38:08PM THROUGH 2022.
3:38:09PM OVER A THOUSAND UNITS HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED AND ARE ONLINE.
3:38:14PM AND THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE PENDING, WHETHER IT'S
3:38:18PM FUNDING, WHETHER THEY ARE IN THE DESIGN PHASE, PERMITTING,
3:38:22PM IT'S ANOTHER 3,716 UNITS.
3:38:27PM THIS HOUSING SUPPLY IMBALANCE IS TEMPORARY.
3:38:30PM THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS TEMPORARY.
3:38:35PM THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING RENT STABILIZATION IS
3:38:38PM A TEMPORARY FIX.
3:38:40PM AND SO WE REALLY NEED TO, COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU START TOAD
3:38:45PM SAY EARLIER THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BEGIN TO INCENTIVIZE TO
3:38:49PM GET MORE UNITS ONLINE QUICKLY.
3:38:52PM SO I JUST SHOWED YOU WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
3:38:56PM WHAT WE COULD DO.
3:38:57PM AND I AM NOT GOING TO SAY THAT YOU CAN'T DECLARE A HOUSING
3:39:00PM EMERGENCY.
3:39:00PM YOU CAN.
3:39:01PM BUT COMPARING TO WHAT ORANGE COUNTY, AND WE TOLD YOU ALONG
3:39:04PM THE WAY THAT THE DATA IS NOT NECESSARILY THERE FOR US TO

3:39:10PM MAKE THIS DECISION.
3:39:14PM AND I WANT TO STRESS TO YOU SHOULD YOU DO THIS RENT
3:39:16PM STABILIZATION ORDINANCE, WHAT MAY ACTUALLY HAPPEN IS OUR
3:39:21PM MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION WILL FEEL THE BURDEN OF THAT RENT
3:39:26PM STABILIZATION.
3:39:27PM AND SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SUPPLY GAP IS, BUT THE HOUSING
3:39:32PM NEEDS ANALYSIS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, THAT WILL TELL US
3:39:35PM WHERE THE GAPS ARE IN THE MARKET AND WHAT HOUSING UNIT TYPES
3:39:42PM NEED ASSISTANCE, BOOSTING, WE NEED TO GET MORE ONLINE AWARE,
3:39:49PM THERE'S INEQUITY -- I WON'T SAY INEQUITY, BUT THERE'S ROOM
3:39:53PM FOR US TO HELP BRING IT MORE IN BALANCE.
3:40:00PM I TALKED TO A LOT OF YOU ABOUT THE EVIDENCE-BASED ADVERSE
3:40:04PM EFFECTS OF WHAT ATTORNEY JOHNS EXPRESSED TO YOU IS THAT
3:40:08PM THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS, BUT
3:40:14PM THE CITIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS, I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS
3:40:18PM FROM THE TIME WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT, DIFFERENT CITIES
3:40:21PM IN OTHER STATES, WHAT OFTENTIMES HAPPEN IS THAT RENTAL
3:40:25PM HOUSING HAS BEEN CONVERTED TO OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING, THEY
3:40:29PM TAKE APARTMENTS AND CONVERT THEM TO CONDOS, AGAIN NOT
3:40:32PM HELPING OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR RENTAL-BASED.
3:40:41PM IF YOU DO NOT ALLOW FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO HAVE REASONABLE
3:40:45PM INCREASES TO THEIR RENT, OFTENTIMES IT LEADS TO DECAY OF THE
3:40:49PM HOUSING STOCK.
3:40:51PM WHAT ALSO HAPPENS IS THAT YOU CREATE UNCERTAINTY IN THE
3:40:54PM RENTAL MARKET AND IN THE PRO FORMA OF DEVELOPERS.

3:40:58PM WHEN DEVELOPERS ARE DOING MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND THERE
3:41:02PM IS SOME KIND OF ORDINANCE CONNECTED WITH THE FINANCIAL PLAN
3:41:04PM OR ANY INSTABILITY IN THAT FINANCIAL PLAN, SOMETIMES
3:41:09PM FINANCING WILL GO OUT.
3:41:11PM I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE WHEREOF THAT HAS HAPPENED.
3:41:18PM RENT STABILIZATION EXACERBATES THE PROBLEM.
3:41:21PM IT IS A SHORT-TERM FIX BUT IT EXACERBATES THE PROBLEM MORE
3:41:25PM SO THAN HELPING.
3:41:28PM THEN YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHEN ARE WE EXACTLY OUT OF THE
3:41:34PM HOUSING EMERGENCY AND THAT DEREGULATION -- THE HOUSING
3:41:41PM CRISIS.
3:41:41PM IF YOU CONSIDER THIS ORDINANCE BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN IT'S ON
3:41:44PM REFERENDUM, IF IT DOES PASS, YOU CAN GUARANTEE THAT
3:41:47PM LANDLORDS ARE GOING TO HIKE THEIR RENT, THEY ARE GOING TO
3:41:50PM SHOOT THEIR RENTS UP KNOWING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE
3:41:52PM STABLE FOR A 12-MONTH PERIOD, AND THEN WHEN THAT 12-MONTH
3:41:57PM PERIOD IS OVER THEY ARE GOING SHOOT THEIR RENTS UP AGAIN, IN
3:42:01PM CASE THAT EMERGENCY CONTINUES.
3:42:03PM AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOST AFFECTED BY THAT ARE MOSTLY
3:42:07PM PEOPLE OF COLOR, AND OUR POOREST PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
3:42:12PM I WANT YOU TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS JUST A
3:42:16PM SHORT-TERM GAP.
3:42:17PM IT'S A SHORT-TERM FIX.
3:42:21PM BUT THE BENEFITS DO NOT OUTWEIGH THE IMPACT THAT IT WILL
3:42:27PM HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY.

3:42:35PM ON ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE RESEARCH HAS SHOWN IS
3:42:38PM THAT THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT RENT STABILIZATION PROMOTES
3:42:42PM HOUSING DISCRIMINATION WHERE PEOPLE -- IT EXISTS, IT SHOULD,
3:42:49PM BUT WHERE PROPERTY OWNERS OR LANDLORDS, THEY LOOK AT PEOPLE
3:42:53PM THAT CAN AFFORD MORE, LOOKING AT THEIR CREDIT HISTORY AND
3:43:00PM THEIR BIASES WHEN THEY ARE DEFINING WHO THEY WANT TO RENT
3:43:04PM TO.
3:43:06PM THERE'S STRONG EVIDENCE THAT HIGHER INCOMES BENEFIT FROM
3:43:09PM RENT CONTROL BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE K AFFORD MORE RENT
3:43:14PM BECAUSE THE RENT IS LOW, INSTEAD OF MOVING UP THEIR HOUSING
3:43:19PM OPTIONS, THEY MAY JUST STAY IN THAT RENT THAT IS -- IN THAT
3:43:23PM APARTMENT UNIT THAT IS CAPPED.
3:43:25PM AND SO THERE'S NO FINANCIAL ABILITY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
3:43:29PM AFFECTED THE MOST, IF THOSE UNITS ARE OCCUPIED BY PEOPLE
3:43:35PM THAT CAN MOVE UP, PEOPLE THAT MORE FINANCIALLY BETTER OFF
3:43:42PM WOULD BENEFIT FROM THAT.
3:43:44PM ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA, I SHARED THIS WITH YOU EARLIER, IS ONE
3:43:48PM OF THE MOST RECENT CITIES THAT HAS ENACTED A RENT
3:43:51PM STABILIZATION ORDINANCE SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT WAS
3:43:54PM PRESENTED TO YOU.
3:43:55PM IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU.
3:43:58PM A FEW MONTHS AFTER PASSAGE, HOME VALUES REDUCED BY
3:44:02PM 1.6 BILLION DOLLARS.
3:44:05PM IT DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED LOW-INCOME PROPERTY OWNERS.
3:44:10PM HOUSING PERMITS DECLINED BY 82% WITHIN MONTHS OF PASSING

3:44:17PM RENT STABILIZATION ORDINANCE.
3:44:19PM AND THEN MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS THAT HAD UNITS READY TO MOVE
3:44:24PM FORWARD HAD THEIR ENTITLEMENTS, THEY WERE UNABLE TO SECURE
3:44:29PM THE FINANCING FOR THEIR PROJECT.
3:44:32PM AND SO TO COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ALWAYS TOLD ME, OR TELL US,
3:44:36PM DON'T TELL ME WAG I CAN'T DO BUT TELL ME WHAT YOU COULD DO.
3:44:39PM AND SO WHAT WE CAN DO NOW IS SUPPORT THE TENANT SERVICES
3:44:44PM TEAM WITH THE BUDGET THAT IS PRESENTED BEFORE YOU, SUPPORT
3:44:48PM COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS.
3:44:50PM MR. DRUMGO IS WORKING ON COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS AND
3:44:55PM PRESENTING OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT IT'S SUCCESSFULLY DONE,
3:44:58PM COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS.
3:45:00PM YOU HEARD EARLIER WITH THE CRA AFFORDABLE HOUSING
3:45:02PM ALLOCATION, 9.2 NEW AD VALOREM TAX REVENUE THAT COULD BE
3:45:10PM USED ALLOCATED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO WHEN THE BUDGET IS
3:45:15PM PRESENTED TO YOU IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, YOU CAN DIRECT STAFF
3:45:18PM AND WE CAN LOOK AT HOW YOU WANT TO ALLOCATE THAT MONEY AND
3:45:23PM IF YOU WANT TO DO IT THROUGH RENTAL ASSISTANCE OR ANY KIND
3:45:26PM OF HOUSING PROGRAM.
3:45:28PM THEN OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO IS INCENTIVIZE ACCESSORY
3:45:31PM DWELLING UNITS, PROACTIVE HOUSING QUALITY ENFORCEMENT,
3:45:35PM LANDLORD PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF
3:45:39PM ADVOCATES.
3:45:40PM WE ALSO THINK ABOUT ADVOCATES FOR TO GO TO TALLAHASSEE TO
3:45:45PM GET FULL APPROPRIATION OF THE SADOWSKI FUNDS FOR AFFORDABLE

3:45:48PM HOUSING, AND YOU HEARD THAT A LOT HERE.
3:45:52PM AND ALSO SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND.
3:45:55PM YOU HAVE HEARD IT FROM OUR ATTORNEYS BEFORE WHEN WE TALKED
3:45:58PM ABOUT THIS.
3:45:58PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, HOUSING MARKETS ARE
3:46:04PM REGIONAL ISSUES THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO THE CITY.
3:46:07PM SO IF WE IMPOSE A RENT STABILIZATION ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY
3:46:11PM OF TAMPA, DEVELOPMENT CAN EASILY MOVE TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
3:46:15PM AND PUSHES IT OUT NOT NECESSARILY INCENTIVIZES DEVELOPMENT
3:46:19PM HERE.
3:46:19PM BUT THAT ALSO COULD IMPACT THEIR HOUSING MARKET, AND MAKE
3:46:23PM THEIR RENTS GO UP.
3:46:26PM BUT I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO AND LEAD THE
3:46:28PM WAY, MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL LEVEL, PURSUING AN ANTI-GOUGING
3:46:34PM POLICY ON THE STATE LEVEL WHICH HAS RENT CAPS SEVERAL POINTS
3:46:39PM BEYOND THE CPI, AND OTHER SUPPORT FOR VULNERABLE RENTERS,
3:46:43PM PEOPLE THAT ARE AT RISK.
3:46:46PM OUR GOAL IS FOR HOUSING STABILITY.
3:46:48PM THIS IS A SHORT-TERM PROBLEM, AND IT'S JUST BEING
3:46:52PM EXACERBATED BECAUSE SUPPLY IS COMING -- NO SUPPLY IS COMING
3:46:57PM ON LINE.
3:46:57PM I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SLIDES BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE
3:47:00PM CAN DO.
3:47:01PM BUT I CAN'T STRESS TO YOU ENOUGH THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT
3:47:06PM YOU WILL HAVE ENACTING A RENT STABILIZATION FOR THIS.

3:47:13PM IF YOU WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH RENT STABILIZATION, IF IT
3:47:16PM WERE TO PASS, ANY IMPACTS TO PROPERTY VALUES, ANY IMPACTS ON
3:47:21PM ECONOMIC -- OR THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING WILL BE DIRECTLY
3:47:27PM CORRELATED TO THE PASSAGE OF THIS ORDINANCE.
3:47:29PM I CANNOT STRESS TO YOU ENOUGH THAT THIS IS A TEMPORARY RENT
3:47:34PM STABILIZATION IS A TEMPORARY FIX AND YOU HAVE OTHER
3:47:36PM TEMPORARY GAP MEASURE LIKE RENTAL ASSISTANCE THAT ARE ACROSS
3:47:43PM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THAT ARE BEING
3:47:46PM USED AS A TOOL TO FILL THIS GAP UNTIL THE SUPPLY CATCHES UP
3:47:50PM WITH THE DEMAND.
3:47:51PM I WILL PAUSE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
3:47:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:47:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:47:55PM I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
3:48:01PM FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE EXEMPTIONS AND THE LANDLORD CAN
3:48:04PM APPEAL, AND COME TO COUNCIL, AN APARTMENT MY WIFE AND I HAD,
3:48:10PM THEY HAD TO REPLACE THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT LAST MONTH.
3:48:15PM WHAT IS A UNIT FOR A RESIDENTIAL, 2, 3, $4,000?
3:48:20PM >> I CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE I JUST BOUGHT ONE.
3:48:24PM 7,000.
3:48:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO LET'S SAY $5,000.
3:48:29PM IF A LANDLORD, IF THEY WERE TO RAISE MY RENT, COME HERE AND
3:48:33PM SAY, I PAID FOR $5,000 UNIT, I HAVE TO INCREASE THEIR RENT
3:48:37PM $500, AND THIS PREVENTS ME FROM DOING SO, THEREFORE IT'S NOT
3:48:43PM ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE.

3:48:44PM FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY COULD COME AND APPEAL THAT TO
3:48:47PM US, AND THEY COULD DO THAT.
3:48:49PM IF SOMEONE HAS TO PUT A NEW ROOF ON, IF SOMEBODY HAS
3:48:52PM PLUMBING ISSUES, WHATEVER IT IS, I CAN SEE IT SO WIDE OPEN,
3:48:56PM THE EXEMPTIONS, THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE EVERYBODY LOOKING
3:48:59PM FOR EVERY LITTLE THING IN AN APARTMENT SAYING, WE DID THIS
3:49:03PM AND THIS COST ME $10,000, 5,000, 1,000.
3:49:06PM WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T?
3:49:08PM I'M LOSING MONEY, I HAVE TO PAY THE MORTGAGE TO THE BANK ON
3:49:11PM THIS PROPERTY, AND IT'S GOING TO BE EXEMPTION AFTER
3:49:14PM EXEMPTION AFTER EXEMPTION.
3:49:16PM I CAN GO ON AND ON.
3:49:18PM LOOKING AT WHO ELSE IS EXEMPT HERE?
3:49:27PM $250, WITH INFLATION, 12, 1300 BUCKS.
3:49:31PM THAT'S A REALISTIC NUMBER BECAUSE WE SEE HOW MUCH THINGS
3:49:34PM COST TRAVIS WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO --
3:49:42PM >>> EVERYBODY SAYS LUXURY APARTMENTS AND I SEE THE --
3:49:48PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT STATEMENT COMES OUT FROM THE
3:49:53PM STATUTES.
3:49:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO.
3:49:56PM INCLUDING SECTION 8.
3:49:57PM SO THEY WOULD BE EXEMPT.
3:49:58PM PEOPLE THAT COME HERE SAYING, I WAS HERE, WE ARE LIVING IN
3:50:02PM TERRIBLE CONDITIONS, CALL THE STATE, THE DEPARTMENT OF
3:50:04PM BUSINESS REGULATIONS, WHATEVER, SECRETARY GRIFFIN, THEY

3:50:09PM WOULD BE EXEMPT.
3:50:11PM >> AND THAT IS BECAUSE THOSE HE'S LEASES TYPICALLY PROVIDE
3:50:15PM THE SPECIFICS FOR THE RENTAL INCREASES, IF THE RENT IS
3:50:20PM LIMITED TO A HUD RATE, IF THAT HUD RATE INCREASES THEN THE
3:50:24PM RENT CAN INCREASE.
3:50:26PM SO THAT'S WHY THEY EXEMPTED THOSE BECAUSE THOSE LEASES
3:50:29PM GENERALLY ADDRESS THAT ANYWAY.
3:50:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONDOMINIUMS.
3:50:32PM MY FATHER LIVES IN A CONDOMINIUM.
3:50:34PM THERE ARE RENTALS IN THAT CONDOMINIUM.
3:50:36PM THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM THIS, CORRECT?
3:50:38PM AND THERE'S A LOT OF RENTALS THERE.
3:50:40PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: CORRECT.
3:50:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW ONE FAMILY OWNS AT LEAST A DOZEN
3:50:46PM AND IT'S NOT THAT BIG.
3:50:47PM GOVERNMENT AGENCIES ARE EXEMPT.
3:50:49PM CO-OPENS ARE EXEMPT.
3:50:51PM NURSING HOMES ARE EXEMPT.
3:50:53PM OKAY, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
3:50:57PM I DON'T KNOW.
3:50:58PM I DON'T WANT TO HURT ANYBODY.
3:50:59PM I'M HERE TO HELP PEOPLE.
3:51:03PM HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL THIS BENEFIT?
3:51:05PM BECAUSE ALL I SEE IS EXEMPTION AND EXEMPTION, AND LANDLORDS
3:51:08PM ARE GOING TO COME AND SAY THIS COST ME THIS, THIS COST ME

3:51:11PM THAT.
3:51:11PM I WANT TO HELP PEOPLE TODAY.
3:51:14PM I WILL FINISH WITH THIS LAST QUESTION.
3:51:15PM IF WE WERE TO PASS THIS TODAY, AND GOES TO SECOND READING,
3:51:20PM AND IT GOES TO THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER, AND IT PASSES BECAUSE
3:51:28PM EVERYBODY GETS TO -- IF THIS PASSES IN NOVEMBER, WHEN WILL
3:51:30PM THIS GO -- WHEN WILL THIS BECOME EFFECTIVE, JANUARY 1st,
3:51:36PM 2023?
3:51:37PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: EFFECTIVE UPON PASSAGE OF THE REFERENDUM
3:51:40PM SO IT WOULD BE NOVEMBER 8th, I BELIEVE IS THE DATE.
3:51:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IF SOMEBODY SUE IT IS NEXT DAY?
3:51:46PM WILL IT BE HELD UP AND NOTHING CAN BE IMPLEMENTED?
3:51:48PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: NOBODY CAN SAY FOR SURE WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN,
3:51:51PM BUT A LITIGATOR MIGHT SEEK TO ENJOIN THE ENFORCEMENT.
3:51:56PM WE MAY STAY THE ENFORCEMENT OF IT PENDING LITIGATION.
3:51:59PM ALL OF THAT WOULD HAVE TO PLAY OUT IN TERMS OF LITIGATION.
3:52:01PM AND IT'S HARD TO TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD PLAY OUT.
3:52:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THERE'S A LOT OF WHAT-IFS.
3:52:08PM HOW DO WE HELP THE PERSON THAT'S FACING EVICTION NEXT WEEK
3:52:12PM OR THE PERSON THAT CAME THIS MORNING AND SAID I CAN'T AFFORD
3:52:15PM MY RENT INCREASE, I NEED HELP NOW.
3:52:17PM THAT'S WHAT I AM WORRIED ABOUT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PASS
3:52:20PM SOMETHING, GIVE FALSE HOPE, AND PEOPLE SAY, I NEED HELP COME
3:52:25PM SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, HERE WE ARE GOING, WELL, WE
3:52:28PM HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE BALLOT, WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE BALLOT.

3:52:30PM AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE OUT ON THE STREET, WHEN WE TALKED
3:52:33PM ABOUT $5 MILLION TOWARDS HOUSING ASSISTANCE TODAY.
3:52:37PM WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE CRA BUDGET.
3:52:39PM EAST TAMPA, YBOR CITY, THERE'S SO MANY CRAs, THERE'S A LOT
3:52:43PM OF MONEY THERE, DOWNTOWN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IF WE CAN USE
3:52:47PM THAT FOR HOUSING EMERGENCY.
3:52:48PM WHAT ABOUT THE ARCA FUNDS?
3:52:50PM WHAT ABOUT ANY OTHER AVENUES WHERE WE CAN GET MONEY TODAY
3:52:53PM AND ASSIST PEOPLE TODAY WITH OUR TENANT ADVOCACY?
3:52:57PM I WANT TO HELP PEOPLE NOW. I DON'T WANT TO HEADLINE THAT
3:53:01PM POSITIVE AND RENT CONTROL.
3:53:02PM I WANT TO HELP PEOPLE. I DON'T WANT TO BLOW SMOKE AND
3:53:05PM EVERYTHING FAILS, AND WE HAVE WASTED TIME AND, YOU KNOW, WE
3:53:11PM HAVE GIVEN PEOPLE THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE ARE HELPING WHEN
3:53:15PM REALLY NOTHING IS GOING TO GET OR VERY LITTLE IS GETTING
3:53:19PM DONE.
3:53:20PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: A COUPLE THINGS.
3:53:21PM YOU HAVE THREE CRAs THAT HAVE BUDGETED IN THE CURRENT
3:53:25PM FISCAL YEAR, AND THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR FOR A HOUSING
3:53:29PM PROGRAM, THAT HELPS STABILITY.
3:53:34PM DREW PARK, WEST TAMPA, THEY ARE DOING HOUSING INITIATIVE, TO
3:53:38PM BE COMMENDED FOR THE PROGRAMS THEY HAVE PUT IN PLACE.
3:53:41PM SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A NEW ALLOCATION OF THE $9.2 MILLION
3:53:45PM NEW MONEY.
3:53:45PM AND SO DOWNTOWN, CHANNELSIDE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY

3:53:49PM BUDGETED TOWARDS ALLOCATION.
3:53:51PM YOU AS A CRA BOARD CAN DIRECT NOT JUST THE 9.2 MILLION, THE
3:53:57PM $40 MILLION BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE FOR THE NINE CRAs TO DO
3:54:00PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU HAVE THREE CRAs THAT ARE
3:54:04PM SUCCESSFULLY DOING PROGRAMS.
3:54:06PM SO YOU ARE ASKING, WHAT DO WE DO FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S FACING
3:54:08PM EVICTION RIGHT NOW, OR SOMEONE WHOSE RENT HAS INCREASED, AND
3:54:13PM NEEDS ASSISTANCE? THEY CALL THE HOUSING HOTLINE, THE RENTAL
3:54:17PM ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT WE PUT $5 MILLION TO IS THERE TO
3:54:22PM PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THAT GAP.
3:54:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO AS A CRA
3:54:28PM BOARD AND AT THE CRA DISCUSSION IS TO ALLOCATE THE MAXIMUM
3:54:33PM AMOUNT THAT MAKES SENSE TO HOUSING ASSISTANCE.
3:54:37PM YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE DOLLARS THAT ARE AVAILABLE NOW.
3:54:41PM HOW EFFECTIVE IS THIS GOING TO BE IN?
3:54:45PM I WANT THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK. I WANT TO HELP PEOPLE
3:54:48PM TODAY, TOMORROW, NEXT WEEK, NOT NOVEMBER 8th, PENDING
3:54:51PM WHATEVER LITIGATION.
3:54:55PM I WANT TO HELP PEOPLE QUICKLY.
3:55:00PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: AND YOU ARE DOING THAT NOW.
3:55:03PM THE LAST PLAN I HAVE IS WHAT CAN YOU DO NOW?
3:55:05PM YOU SUPPORTED THE TENANT SERVICES TEAM, YOU SUPPORTED THE
3:55:10PM HOUSING -- YOU PUSHED $5 MILLION.
3:55:14PM WE PUT $5 MILLION OF GENERAL FUND MONEY TO HELP FILL THAT
3:55:18PM GAP.

3:55:18PM WE ARE DOING THOSE THINGS.
3:55:25PM YOU ARE MAKING POLICY CHANGES AND YOU ARE TRYING TO FILL A
3:55:28PM GAP, BUT RIGHT NOW RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE.
3:55:33PM WE ARE WORKING WITH BAY AREA LEGAL, IF ANYONE IS FACING
3:55:36PM EVICTIONS, TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THOSE SERVICES.
3:55:39PM SO YOU ARE DOING THINGS.
3:55:40PM I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING.
3:55:44PM THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING NOW, AND THAT IS WHAT WILL
3:55:48PM PROVIDE IMMEDIATE RELIEF.
3:55:49PM EVEN IF THE RENT STABILIZATION ORDINANCE WERE TO PASS, IF
3:55:52PM THIS WAS TO PASS ON REFERENDUM, IT WILL BE LITIGATED AND IT
3:55:56PM WOULD LIKELY NOT BE NOVEMBER 8th WHEN IT GOES INTO
3:56:00PM EFFECT.
3:56:01PM IN THE MEANTIME, THE RENTAL RATE BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER
3:56:04PM 8th WILL CONTINUE TO SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE.
3:56:08PM AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOST
3:56:12PM AFFECTED BY THAT INCREASE ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR, AND SUPPORTS
3:56:17PM PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
3:56:19PM AND SO THAT TEMPORARY MEASURE THAT THIS RENT STABILIZATION
3:56:24PM IS GOING TO PROVIDE, YOU ARE DOING -- YOU HAVE OTHER TOOLS,
3:56:28PM AND YOU ARE DOING THAT.
3:56:33PM TWO ITEMS AGO YOU ASKED US TO DO A SWAT ANALYSIS AND COME
3:56:37PM BACK WITH HOW THIS IS WORKING.
3:56:38PM WE ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT'S NOT
3:56:42PM WORKING, HOW CAN WE TWEAK PROGRAMS, AND DO MORE.

3:56:46PM I PRESENTED TO YOU SOME BULLET LISTS TODAY ON TENANT
3:56:49PM SERVICES.
3:56:49PM THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE CREATIVITY STOPS.
3:56:53PM THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE
3:56:55PM COMMUNITY ADVOCATES AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS.
3:56:57PM I AM JUST URGING YOU TO BE CAUTIOUS OF PASSING RENT
3:57:03PM STABILIZATION FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE AND
3:57:06PM HOW THAT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THIS COMMUNITY.
3:57:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL FINISH WITH
3:57:11PM THIS LAST STATEMENT.
3:57:12PM I KNOW WHAT A 3-DAY NOTICE IS.
3:57:14PM I KNOW WHAT EVICTION NOTICE IS.
3:57:16PM I KNOW WHAT EVERYTHING ABOUT FORECLOSURE, YOU NEED THE MONEY
3:57:24PM RIGHT AWAY.
3:57:31PM WE NEED ASSISTANCE.
3:57:33PM YOU MENTION WE ARE DOING THIS, WE ARE DOING THIS.
3:57:35PM WE HAVE A BUDGET ON THE 16th.
3:57:38PM WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- 5 MILLION IS GREAT. EVERYTHING
3:57:41PM YOU MENTION IS GREAT.
3:57:42PM BUT WE CANNOT LEAVE ANY STONE UNTURNED.
3:57:46PM BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS.
3:57:50PM IT'S NOT GUARANTEED.
3:57:51PM AND THE LITIGATION IF IT COMES.
3:57:52PM I'M SURE IT WILL.
3:57:53PM WE ARE IN FLORIDA.

3:57:55PM YOU KNOW, I NEED TO HELP PEOPLE TODAY.
3:57:57PM WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC AND HELP PEOPLE NOW.
3:58:00PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ONE POINT EARLIER, YOU MENTIONED ARE WE
3:58:03PM USING OUR ARPA FUNDS?
3:58:06PM RIGHT NOW ON OUR LEDGER WE HAVE $59 MILLION ALLOCATED FOR
3:58:11PM HOUSING.
3:58:11PM THIS IS MONEY THAT'S COMING IN.
3:58:13PM YOU SEE THESE WITH ALLOCATIONS THAT COME ON YOUR AGENDA.
3:58:16PM THEY COME IN DIFFERENT CHARGES.
3:58:17PM ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS.
3:58:19PM RIGHT NOW WE HAVE $59 MILLION THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PUT OUT
3:58:23PM FOR HOUSING SERVICES.
3:58:24PM SO IT'S NOT -- WE ARE USING EVERY RESOURCE POSSIBLE OF THE
3:58:29PM EVERYTHING THAT COMES IN. IT'S NOT JUST THE $5 MILLION.
3:58:31PM IT'S NOT JUST THE $9 MILLION OF CRA.
3:58:34PM WE HAVE FEDERAL, STATE FUNDS THAT WE ARE JUST ADDING ON.
3:58:38PM GENERALLY FUNDS JUST ALLOW US TO GO BEYOND THOSE FEDERAL
3:58:42PM LIMITS.
3:58:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:58:42PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
3:58:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I WOULD
3:58:47PM LIKE TO JUST SAY THAT THERE'S FOUR CRAS.
3:58:53PM DOWNTOWN ALSO PUT IN $10 MILLION TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY ON
3:58:56PM TAMPA STREET THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY MEANT FOR AFFORDABLE
3:59:00PM WORKFORCE HOUSING.

3:59:02PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:59:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:59:05PM I'M NOWHERE NEAR AN EXPERT ON THIS BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM
3:59:08PM LIFE EXPERIENCE, THERE USED TO BE THREE BIG GOVERNMENT
3:59:11PM SUBSIDIES PROGRAMS.
3:59:13PM THERE WAS ROBLES PARK, COLLEGE HILL, AND PONCE DeLEON.
3:59:18PM AND FROM THE LATE 40s TO THE PRESENT TIME, I GUESS,
3:59:26PM THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES MADE THAT CHANGED THE OUTLOOK OF A
3:59:29PM LOT OF PEOPLE.
3:59:32PM I HAD THE PLEASURE OF LIVING IN ONE OF THOSE CONDOMINIUMS.
3:59:37PM NOTICE I DIDN'T SAY AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE NO ONE THERE
3:59:40PM COULD AFFORD ANYTHING.
3:59:41PM 99% OF THE PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE A CAR.
3:59:44PM BUT THEY WERE ALL HEALTHY SO THEY WALKED.
3:59:47PM I DON'T CARE IF THEY HAD TO WALK THREE OR FOUR MILES TO GO
3:59:52PM TO WORK AND COME BACK.
3:59:53PM THEY ALL WALKED.
3:59:55PM I REMEMBER WALKING FROM 26th AVENUE, NOT I, BUT MANY OF
3:59:58PM US, JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL AND EUCLID, AND NO ONE WAS EVER
4:00:05PM LATE.
4:00:05PM THEN THEY GOT A SCHOOL BUS AND THE BUS WAS LATE.
4:00:09PM SO WHAT AM I THINKING?
4:00:10PM WHY AM I PUTTING THIS TOGETHER?
4:00:12PM WELL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT PONCE DeLEON AND COLLEGE HILL,
4:00:16PM THERE WERE CERTAINLY DIVIDED BUT THEY WERE BOTH IN THE SAME

4:00:19PM ECONOMIC SOCIOECONOMIC VALUE.
4:00:21PM THAT HAS SINCE CHANGED.
4:00:23PM AND WHAT THEY TRANSFORMED THOSE TWO IS TO -- WE ARE TALKING
4:00:28PM ABOUT THE FOUR, SINCE-UNIT APARTMENTS.
4:00:31PM THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR SUBSIDIZED AREAS.
4:00:36PM I WOULD IMAGINE, I AM NOT THERE, BUT YOU FEEL LIKE, MAN,
4:00:38PM THIS IS NICE.
4:00:41PM WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE AMENITIES.
4:00:43PM IN FACT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED AT
4:00:47PM THAT TIME, THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, WOULD PICK UP THE
4:00:50PM GARBAGE.
4:00:51PM I DON'T SEE HOW THEY WALKED BECAUSE THERE WAS A HOLE IN THE
4:00:56PM GROUND WITH A METAL GRAIN AND YOU OPENED IT AND YOU DUMPED
4:01:02PM YOUR TRASH MAN.
4:01:03PM HE HAD TO OPEN THAT, CARRY IT OUT AND TAKE IT TO THE TRUCK.
4:01:08PM SO THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
4:01:11PM CERTAINLY YOU DON'T DO THAT ANY MORE FOR A LOT OF INDIVIDUAL
4:01:15PM AND THE COST OF THAT.
4:01:16PM THE ONLY ONE LEFT IS ROBLES PARK, AND I THINK IT'S IN THE
4:01:19PM WORKS NOW TO BE COMPLETELY CHANGED TO SOMETHING OR EVEN
4:01:23PM BETTER BOTH ROBLES PARK AND COLLEGE HILL.
4:01:26PM WHAT DOES THAT GIVE YOU?
4:01:28PM JUST ON THE CHANGE OF DIFFERENCE IN BUILDING, DESIGN, AND
4:01:32PM BUILDING A DIFFERENT MOTIF AND DIFFERENT FIGURES GIVES YOU A
4:01:39PM FEELING OF, YOU KNOW WHAT?

4:01:40PM I CAN DO THIS.
4:01:41PM AND IT MAY JUST MOTIVATE SOMEONE, TO KEEP STUDYING AND TO GO
4:01:46PM TO SCHOOL.
4:01:47PM YOU SEE THOSE HOUSING PROJECTS.
4:01:50PM AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT MYSELF.
4:01:51PM THERE'S AN ABUNDANCE OF DOCTORS THAT CAME OUT OF THERE, AND
4:01:54PM ABUNDANCE OF LAWYERS THAT CAME OUT OF THERE, AND ABUNDANCE
4:01:57PM OF ENGINEERS THAT CAME OUT OF THERE, THAT WHEN YOU GO BACK
4:02:00PM AND IF YOU DO A HISTORY OF IT, YOU JUST WON'T BELIEVE
4:02:03PM WHEREOF THEY STARTED.
4:02:05PM AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE PEOPLE AN
4:02:08PM OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP THEMSELVES.
4:02:11PM YOU CAN'T DEVELOP SOMEBODY.
4:02:12PM THAT PERSON HAS GOT TO DEVELOP THEMSELVES.
4:02:15PM HOWEVER, BY HAVING A PLACE THAT'S NO NOW DIFFERENT, I WOULD
4:02:22PM KNOWLEDGE MA MOST OF THESE PLACES COME NOW WITH INTERNET
4:02:24PM SERVICE AND THIS KIND OF SERVICE, ALL THAT KIND OF SERVICE,
4:02:28PM WHICH I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO DO, DON'T EACH WANT TO LEARN
4:02:33PM IT AT MY AGE, FORGET ABOUT THE LEARNING RIGHT NOW ABOUT ALL
4:02:36PM THAT STUFF.
4:02:37PM SO TODAY I SEE WHERE IT FALLS OUT.
4:02:43PM THERE'S TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY AND MY SIDE IS ALWAYS, WHAT
4:02:47PM IF?
4:02:48PM WHAT IF THIS DOESN'T WORK, WHAT HAPPENS NOW?
4:02:50PM AND I THINK I MADE THIS COMMENT BEFORE.

4:02:52PM WHAT IF WE GET SUBSIDY, AND AT THE END OF FIVE OR SIX MONTHS
4:02:55PM WE ARE OUT OF MONEY AND WE ARE AT THE SAME PLACE?
4:02:58PM WHAT IF WE HADN'T DONE THAT?
4:03:00PM WHAT DO YOU HAVE?
4:03:06PM YOU HAVE SOME FUND.
4:03:07PM HOWEVER, THERE'S ONE IMPORTANT FACTOR WE NEVER DISCUSSED.
4:03:10PM DO YOU HAVE THE LAND AVAILABLE TO BUILD WHAT YOU SAY YOU
4:03:13PM WANT TO BUILD?
4:03:14PM WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE LAND AT?
4:03:16PM AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO COMMUNICATE IT WITH BUILDINGS OF
4:03:20PM FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT UNITS TOGETHER, A NICE BEAUTIFUL
4:03:23PM BUILDING? AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE HAVE ASKED FOR.
4:03:25PM WE HAVEN'T GOT THEM YET.
4:03:29PM WHEN YOU FIND THAT OUT THEN YOU CAN GET A PROXIMITY OF HOW
4:03:32PM LONG, WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETED.
4:03:35PM GETTING THEM LEASED OUT IS NO PROBLEM, AS WE HEARD TODAY, WE
4:03:39PM HEARD IN THE PAST.
4:03:40PM THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND THEY SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT I
4:03:43PM THINK THIS AREA WILL CONTINUE TO GROW, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
4:03:46PM LIKE ANTS.
4:03:47PM YOU GO GET SOMETHING, YOU TAKE IT IN, AND WANT TO GO WHERE
4:03:51PM YOU ARE AT.
4:03:52PM AND THAT'S HOW SOCIETY WORKS.
4:03:55PM MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME FROM HERE ARE FROM THE
4:03:58PM NORTHEAST, NEW YORK, NEW ENGLAND STATES.

4:04:04PM THEY ARE USED TO DIFFERENT THINGS THAN THEY ARE.
4:04:08PM THEY HAD A BETTER JOB THAN WE DID AND THEY HAD FOUR SEASONS.
4:04:14PM AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT AS TO WHY
4:04:17PM THEY COME HERE.
4:04:19PM ONLY WE ONLY HAVE TWO SEASONS, CHRISTMAS AND SUMMER.
4:04:23PM AND SUMMER IS GETTING LIKE ONE SEASON, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T
4:04:26PM TAKEN CARE OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
4:04:29PM SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE, BUT IN A WAY
4:04:33PM THAT WE CAN SAY IT'S COMPLETE, THE BUILDING BLOCKS ARE
4:04:36PM THERE.
4:04:37PM AND I AM NOT AGAINST TENANTS, I AM NOT AGAINST THE PEOPLE,
4:04:41PM THE LANDLORDS.
4:04:41PM I'M NOT AGAINST NONE OF THAT.
4:04:43PM BUTCH WHAT I WANT TO SEE IS SOME COMPROMISE WHERE BY US
4:04:47PM DOING SOMETHING AND BUILDING SOMETHING THAT THE TENANTS HAVE
4:04:49PM A BETTER RIGHT BECAUSE NOW THE LANDLORDS SAY, HEY, WE HAVE
4:04:53PM COMPETITION.
4:04:54PM THAT'S WHAT I HAVE SEEN TODAY.
4:04:58PM IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.
4:05:02PM YOU AREN'T GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE THE SECOND TIME BECAUSE
4:05:04PM PEOPLE NEED IT FIVE MONTHS AGO, NOT TODAY.
4:05:07PM I CAN TELL YOU THAT I RUN A SMALL -- TO ME A SMALL, ANYWAY,
4:05:14PM OPERATION, A TRUST, AND IN THAT TRUST IN THE LAST THREE
4:05:20PM MONTHS I PUT THREE ROOFS AND TWO NEW AIR CONDITIONERS, AND
4:05:23PM THE RENT HAS NEVER GONE UP.

4:05:26PM AND IT WON'T GO UP.
4:05:30PM AND YOU CAN CHECK ANYONE.
4:05:32PM I WILL GIVE YOU THE ADDRESS.
4:05:33PM YOU CAN GO TALK TO THE PEOPLE.
4:05:35PM BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
4:05:36PM AND NOT EVERY LANDLORD IS THAT WAY.
4:05:39PM CERTAINLY THERE'S TWO THAT I KNOW OF.
4:05:41PM I AM NOT GOING TO MENTION THEIR NAMES.
4:05:43PM THAT STARTED THE UPRISING, WHICH I WELCOME THAT THEY STARTED
4:05:47PM THAT BECAUSE NOW THE REALIZATION OF FACT HAS HIT GROUND
4:05:51PM LEVEL.
4:05:51PM AND I THINK THE CITY NOW HAS ACTIVATED SOME ITEMS THAT WOULD
4:05:55PM HELP THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
4:05:57PM YOU MENTIONED THEM EARLIER.
4:05:58PM THERE'S ABOUT 7 OR 8 ITEMS THERE.
4:06:01PM AND THE CITY IS PUTTING NOT ONLY OUR RESOURCES BUT POSSIBLY
4:06:04PM THE CRAS RESOURCES INTO BUILDING.
4:06:07PM IF YOU DON'T BUILD, YOU CAN NEVER RENT.
4:06:11PM YOU CAN NEVER LEASE.
4:06:13PM YOU CAN ALWAYS SAY I AM GOING TO DO IT AND NEVER GET IT
4:06:16PM DONE.
4:06:16PM SO IT'S BECOME THEN OUR PROBLEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE
4:06:20PM THINGS ARE DELIVERED.
4:06:21PM BUT NOTICE WHAT I SAID EARLIER THIS MORNING.
4:06:24PM YOU SHOULD PUT IN SOLAR.

4:06:27PM YOU SHOULD PUT IN DIFFERENT THINGS.
4:06:29PM IT HELPS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING IN TO STAY IN, NOT A
4:06:35PM WONDERFUL PLACE YOU GO IN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOUR ELECTRIC
4:06:39PM BILL IS ONE THIRD OF YOUR RENT.
4:06:40PM AND I AM NOT AGAINST ELECTRIC COMPANIES OR ANYTHING LIKE
4:06:43PM THAT.
4:06:43PM BUT TECHNOLOGY CHANGE.
4:06:44PM YOU ARE GOING FROM GAS ENGINE TO ELECTRIC CARS.
4:06:47PM WHO KNOWS WHAT'S NEXT?
4:06:49PM MAYBE HYBRIDS E RIDS.
4:06:50PM SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS YOU HAVE TO TAKE WHAT YOU HAVE IN
4:06:54PM FRONT OF YOU, AND BEST TAKE WHAT YOU HAVE.
4:06:57PM AND I AGREE WITH MR. MANISCALCO.
4:06:59PM I LIKE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, NOT KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
4:07:02PM AND THE ONLY WAY WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS IS BY HAVING A PLAN
4:07:06PM OF THE LAND AND WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO BUILD AND HOW YOU ARE
4:07:08PM GOING TO BUILD IT.
4:07:09PM AND THE GOOD PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP AND HAVE BEEN SHOWING UP
4:07:13PM WEEK AFTER WEEK AFTER WEEK, TO WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE
4:07:17PM THAT THOSE UNITS ARE BUILT, AND LEASED OUT IMMEDIATELY.
4:07:20PM I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE CUSTOMERS THAN YOU HAVE
4:07:23PM ABILITY FOR.
4:07:24PM THAT'S JUST ME TALKING.
4:07:26PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
4:07:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

4:07:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN YOU DO NOTHING, NOTHING HAPPENS.
4:07:36PM >> THAT'S RIGHT.
4:07:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE WASN'T A RUSH TO DO SOMETHING.
4:07:44PM WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
4:07:46PM WE SAID PUT MONEY IN THE CRA FOR HOUSING.
4:07:52PM START BUILDING.
4:07:54PM START BUYING.
4:07:55PM DIDN'T DO IT.
4:07:55PM DIDN'T DO IT.
4:07:57PM NOW BECAUSE NOW IT AFFECTS THE UPPER ECHELON AND BOTTOM
4:08:03PM LINE, WE SAY THERE'S A CRISIS, THERE'S A PROBLEM.
4:08:09PM BUT YOU HAVE ALL THESE EXEMPTIONS IN HERE.
4:08:14PM YOU TOOK THE 5% OUT.
4:08:18PM AND YOU DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE TIME FRAME.
4:08:23PM YOU DID THAT.
4:08:25PM BUT FOR ME WHEN I LOOK AT IT AND LOOK AT THE WHOLE TOTALITY,
4:08:31PM THE BIG QUESTION, ARE WE GOING TO GET SUED?
4:08:33PM THAT'S ALL WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT.
4:08:34PM THAT'S ALL WE ARE WORRIED.
4:08:36PM WE ARE WORRIED IF WE ARE GOING TO GET SUED, OR WE ARE
4:08:38PM WORRIED ABOUT -- THAT'S WHAT WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT.
4:08:42PM THAT'S WHAT CITIES DO.
4:08:43PM THAT'S WHAT MANAGEMENT DOES.
4:08:44PM LET'S NOT GET SUED.
4:08:52PM IT'S GOING TO COST US THIS, IT'S GOING TO COST US THAT.

4:08:56PM THE 5% SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN HERE.
4:08:58PM ALL THE EXEMPTIONS, YOU KNOW THE EXEMPTIONS.
4:09:01PM THE BOTTOM LINE, TEMPORARY, TEMPORARY.
4:09:04PM WELL, IF WE KEPT IT WHERE IT WAS, THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN
4:09:08PM TEMPORARY, TOO. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TEMPORARY, WHILE
4:09:11PM EVERYONE IS COMING HERE TALKING ABOUT A PLAN, DEVELOPING A
4:09:14PM PLAN, BUT WHILE WE HAVE THIS TEMPORARY, IT GOES OR DOESN'T,
4:09:17PM NOW WE CAN SAY PEOPLE ARE NOW WORKING ON THIS THING, WE
4:09:20PM DON'T KNOW ITS MAKEUP.
4:09:23PM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE PLANS NOW OF WHAT WE CAN DO,
4:09:28PM BUT THOSE TAKE TIME.
4:09:30PM THOSE ARE TEMPORARY.
4:09:32PM YOU ARE GOING TO RUN OUT OF MONEY.
4:09:35PM YOU ARE GOING TO RUN OUT OF MONEY.
4:09:37PM HOW FAST ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD, OR GET SOME
4:09:41PM DEVELOPERS IN, INCENTIVE TO HAVE LAND SPACE, MAKE APARTMENTS
4:09:51PM AFFORDABLE, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LIST THEM.
4:09:53PM SO I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT WE TOOK SOME THINGS OUT,
4:09:56PM DISAPPOINTED THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF THE EXEMPTIONS.
4:10:01PM ALL YOU DO IS OPEN A CAN OF WORMS, A BUCKET.
4:10:05PM THE LANDLORD, AND YOU OPENED IT UP.
4:10:08PM AND THEN YOU TRY TO CONVINCE US OF NOT BEING SUED.
4:10:13PM BUT YOU HAVE EVERYBODY SAYING, WELL, HER AC WAS 7,000.
4:10:19PM WELL, MINE COST 32.
4:10:24PM I KNEW A GUY THAT HAD A SERVICE, SO 7,000, 10, MINE WAS 32.

4:10:31PM SO I AM COMING HERE, BECAUSE SOMEONE SAID I HAVE TO UP MY
4:10:38PM RENT.
4:10:39PM WEAR AND TEAR.
4:10:42PM IT DEPENDS ON HOW GOOD -- ROOF REPAIRS HAPPEN.
4:10:53PM YOU HAVE A LEAK, YOU KNOW.
4:10:57PM YOU MAY HAVE SAY GOUGING.
4:11:01PM THIS IS HAPPENING.
4:11:02PM HOW DO WE STOP THE GOUGING? WE HAVE TO STOP THE BLEEDING
4:11:05PM SOMEHOW.
4:11:06PM WE SAY WE DO THIS, THEN THEY ARE GOING TO RAISE THEIR RENTS.
4:11:09PM WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
4:11:10PM WE ARE ASSUMING THAT.
4:11:11PM WE USE THE EXAMPLE OF ST. PAUL, MINNEAPOLIS I.DIDN'T GO
4:11:16PM THERE.
4:11:17PM IT'S COLD THERE.
4:11:20PM IT'S COLD.
4:11:23PM IT'S A BAD EXAMPLE THAT WE ARE USE.
4:11:26PM OH, ST. PAUL.
4:11:28PM THEY HAVE ISSUES ALREADY.
4:11:30PM BAD EXAMPLE.
4:11:30PM >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:11:32PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BAD EXAMPLE.
4:11:33PM IT'S COLD THERE.
4:11:34PM >> IT IS COLD.
4:11:38PM BUT THE FACT OF THE FACT, YOU KNOW, AND.

4:11:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: EVERYBODY COMINGS TO FLORIDA.
4:11:47PM EVERYBODY WANTS TO IN FLORIDA.
4:11:55PM COME TO FLORIDA.
4:11:55PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: OUR POPULATION HAS INCREASED --
4:12:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WHEN ARE WE GOING TO START GETTING WITH
4:12:06PM THE DEMAND AND THE SUPPLY?
4:12:09PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THERE WERE 37 UNITS INTO PERMITTING.
4:12:13PM WE CAN'T BUILD THEM.
4:12:15PM I'M SORRY, 3700 UNITS THAT ARE PLANNED, FINANCED OR IN SOME
4:12:21PM FORM OF APPROVAL THAT IS TO COME.
4:12:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT AIN'T GONNA HELP.
4:12:27PM THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP.
4:12:28PM 3700 UNITS.
4:12:29PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I AGREE THAT WE NEED MORE THAN THAT.
4:12:32PM SO WHAT I AM SUGGESTING IS, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN
4:12:35PM DO, AND I WOULD LIKE TO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED
4:12:41PM ABOUT, WE TOUCHED ON BRIEFLY IN ONE OF OUR WORKSHOPS, IS
4:12:43PM USING THE F.A.R. DENSITY THAT'S IN THE CODE AND REQUIRING
4:12:47PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
4:12:48PM YOU TALKED ABOUT INCLUSIVE ZONING.
4:12:50PM THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN LEGALLY DO THAT IS THROUGH OUR
4:12:55PM BONUS DENSITY SO WE ARE LOOKING AT PROVISIONS, WORKING
4:12:58PM THROUGH, IN THE FUTURE, HOW DO WE INVENT SIZE DEVELOPERS TO
4:13:04PM DO MORE, BUILD MORE?
4:13:06PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE EXPLORING THAT.

4:13:08PM EVERY TIME WE THINK OF SOMETHING AND WE BRING IT BACK TO YOU
4:13:11PM AND IF THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO FIGURE OUT TO HELP INCENTIVIZE
4:13:16PM THE SUPPLY WE NEED TO BE DOING THAT BECAUSE THE SUPPLY IS
4:13:19PM REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT IS GOING TO HELP US WITH THIS
4:13:22PM DEMAND.
4:13:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I BELIEVE SOME OF IT APPLIED NOW, BUT WE
4:13:27PM HAVE NOT UTILIZED SO MANY ASSETS.
4:13:29PM I MEAN, YOU HAVE DILAPIDATED HOUSES ALL OVER THE CITY,
4:13:35PM ESPECIALLY IN EAST TAMPA, THAT WE HAVEN'T TRIED TO FIX UP.
4:13:40PM HAVEN'T TRIED TO GET OUT OF PROBATE AND PUT PEOPLE IN THEM.
4:13:43PM YOU HAVE APARTMENTS ALL AROUND TOWN, YOU KNOW, BUT ISN'T
4:13:50PM ANYBODY IN THEM.
4:13:51PM BECAUSE NOBODY CAN AFFORD THEM.
4:13:53PM I'M SURE IF PEOPLE COULD AFFORD THEM THEY WOULD MOVE INTO
4:13:56PM THEM BUT NO ONE CAN AFFORD THEM, UNLESS YOU HAVE A GREAT
4:13:59PM JOB, PAYING GOOD MONEY, BUT THE AVERAGE PERSON DON'T HAVE
4:14:02PM THAT WITH INCREASED RENT THREE, FOUR TIMES.
4:14:07PM SO TO ME I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
4:14:09PM I RESPECT ALL THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
4:14:11PM AND YOU TRY PROTECT THE INTEREST OF EVERYBODY.
4:14:15PM BUT TO ME, I HAVE TO PROTECT THE INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE WHO
4:14:18PM ARE CRYING AND SAY, I DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE.
4:14:21PM SO WHETHER THIS MOVES, MY THING IS, YOU TAKE OUT ALL THE
4:14:28PM EXEMPTIONS, WE MOVE ON.
4:14:35PM AND WHILE WE ARE DOING IT WE WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS, TO

4:14:40PM DEVELOP A PLAN TO BE BRING THE SUPPLY.
4:14:44PM I WILL CONTINUE WITH THAT.
4:14:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:14:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE THAT 5% THAT WAS TAKEN OUT AND I
4:15:00PM DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY.
4:15:06PM BUT THE THING THAT I DON'T SEE IN THIS ONE THAT I DID SEE IN
4:15:08PM THE ONE THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS GUDES PUT FORTH LAST WEEK WAS
4:15:15PM I'M ALMOST POSITIVE IN THAT LANGUAGE IT SAID THE DAY THE
4:15:18PM ORDINANCE PASSES WOULD BE THE DAY THAT THE PRICES WOULD
4:15:25PM STOP.
4:15:30PM >> WHICH IS IN NOVEMBER.
4:15:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THAT ANSWERED THAT QUESTION FOR ME.
4:15:37PM THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING, YOU KNOW, ADDING TO THIS GIANT
4:15:43PM LAUNDRY LIST OF EXEMPTIONS, IF THESE ARE RENTAL UNIT FOR
4:15:52PM WHICH THE LANDLORD RECEIVES STATE, LOCAL, HOUSING FEDERAL
4:15:57PM SUBSIDIES, THE OTHER ONE, OH, THE HOTEL-MOTEL, OTHER SIMILAR
4:16:01PM ESTABLISHMENTS, IT MADE ME THINK ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT WE
4:16:05PM WENT THROUGH WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND EVERYBODY FOR
4:16:07PM FOUR-PLUS UNITS, WOULD THAT BE AFFECTED, TOO?
4:16:10PM WOULD THAT BE PART OF WITH WHAT WE COULDN'T -- I MEAN,
4:16:16PM ACCORDING TO STATE LAW,
4:16:18PM DPPR HAS JURISDICTION OVER CODE ENFORCEMENT, SO --
4:16:28PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK THAT ISSUE HAS BEEN RESOLVED AND
4:16:31PM IT'S DETERMINED WE DO HAVE MORE ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY OVER
4:16:34PM APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT ARE FOUR UNITS OR MORE.

4:16:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
4:16:38PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THIS WOULD NOT AFFECT THAT.
4:16:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY QUESTION,
4:16:44PM JUST BECAUSE THE CODE.
4:16:46PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ARE YOU ASKING IF WE COULD STILL DO THE
4:16:48PM ENFORCEMENT BUT THE FACILITATE OF THE --
4:16:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, NOT THE QUALITY BUT WOULD THIS APPLY TO
4:16:54PM APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT HAVE FOUR OR MORE UNITS BECAUSE THE
4:16:57PM CODE DOESN'T, THEY SAY DPPR SAYS THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER ALL
4:17:01PM THE THINGS.
4:17:03PM THE RENT.
4:17:05PM >> THE RENTAL UNIT IS SPECIFICALLY DEFINED AS A FOUR OR MORE
4:17:11PM UNITS.
4:17:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE WITH DR. GUDES.
4:17:14PM YOU ARE TURNING US INTO WHAT THIS WOULD DO IF IT PASSES
4:17:20PM WOULD BASICALLY TURN US INTO A SMALL -- NOT SMALL CLAIMS
4:17:23PM COURT BUT BASICALLY, THAT WILL SEE WHAT WE DO ALL WEEK, BUT
4:17:28PM I DON'T AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE EXEMPTIONS.
4:17:31PM I AGREE WITH HIM ON THE 5%.
4:17:33PM I MEAN, IF WE ARE GOING TO DO IT, LET'S DO IT.
4:17:38PM AND REGARDLESS, THAT HAS OUTLAY, I KNOW WE HAVEN'T HAD
4:17:49PM ENOUGH EXAMPLES BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THROUGH ALL THE
4:17:52PM COMPLAINTS.
4:17:54PM OR NOT THE COMPLAINTS.
4:17:55PM I APOLOGIZE.

4:17:55PM THE APPLICATIONS.
4:17:56PM THE 3500 APPLICATIONS.
4:17:58PM BY THE TIME WE ARE DONE WITH THAT, I AM ASSUMING WE WILL
4:18:00PM HAVE THAT $5 MILLION SPENT.
4:18:03PM AND ONCE THAT HAPPENS, THOSE PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO NEED
4:18:06PM HELP NEXT YEAR.
4:18:07PM AND AGAIN, $5 MILLION WILL THEN BE ACCOUNTED FOR.
4:18:11PM SO WE ACTUALLY NEED A LOT MORE MONEY.
4:18:15PM I MEAN, 20 MILLION IS A -- AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL
4:18:19PM THESE OTHER WONDERFUL THINGS THAT WE ARE ALSO DOING TO HELP
4:18:22PM BUILD HOUSING AND CRA MONEY.
4:18:24PM I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST SIMPLY RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
4:18:27PM WE NEED MORE CASH.
4:18:31PM IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO PASS THIS AND INSTEAD WE ARE SIMPLY
4:18:34PM GOING TO PROVIDE CASH, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, I WANT MORE
4:18:40PM MONEY.
4:18:41PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I AGREE.
4:18:45PM THE $5 MILLION IS JUST GENERAL FUND MONEY.
4:18:49PM YOU HAVE MONEY THROUGH YOUR EMERGENCY PROGRAM.
4:18:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THE REASON WE
4:19:03PM CHOSE THE GENERAL BUDGET IS BECAUSE WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE
4:19:08PM WANT WITH THAT MONEY, I MEAN WITHIN REASON.
4:19:10PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YOU GO HIGHER THAN THIS, THE STATE -- THE
4:19:16PM AMI.
4:19:19PM 40% CAPTURING MORE PEOPLE.

4:19:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXACTLY.
4:19:23PM SO THEN SOMETHING ELSE THAT I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO COME BACK
4:19:28PM AND MAYBE I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT AND I CAN SIT DOWN WITH YOU
4:19:37PM AT ANOTHER TIME.
4:19:38PM THE $7 MILLION, WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING THROUGH IT OTHER THAN
4:19:43PM THAT 5 MILLION?
4:19:44PM AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION NOW.
4:19:46PM I AM HAPPY TO TAKE IT OFFLINE.
4:19:48PM I KNOW WE HAVE OTHER THINGS TO TALK ABOUT BUB I REALLY WANT
4:19:51PM TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH IS ACTUALLY GOING --
4:19:57PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: FOR ASSISTANCE?
4:20:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
4:20:00PM I HAVE ALREADY FORGOT TEN NEW NAME.
4:20:04PM THE TENANT SERVICES TEAM.
4:20:06PM HOW MUCH ARE WE GIVING OUT THROUGH THAT?
4:20:08PM ARE WE HELPING PEOPLE GET THROUGH THAT SERVICE?
4:20:10PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SO THE TENANT SERVICES TEAM IN THE BUDGET
4:20:14PM WE PUT THE $400,000 THAT YOU ASKED FOR AND THE $5 MILLION
4:20:18PM THAT'S ALLOCATED IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR IS GOING THROUGH
4:20:21PM THAT, AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER 5.5 MILLION ALLOCATION FOR
4:20:27PM HOUSING INITIATIVES IN 23.
4:20:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, BUT WHAT ADDITIONAL MONEY?
4:20:33PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: CAPTURE THE STATE, FEDERAL FUND AND
4:20:37PM GENERAL FUNDS AND GO TO RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
4:20:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE MONEY THAT'S SIMPLY GOING TO -- YES.

4:20:45PM FOR ME, HELPING PEOPLE WITH DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AND
4:20:51PM BUILDING THE HOUSES.
4:20:56PM THAT'S JUST CONFUSING NOT THAT IT'S NOT IMPORTANT BUT IT'S
4:20:59PM NOT WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH NOW.
4:21:02PM I FEEL LIKE THIS IS JUST ONE MORE THING WE CAN DO TO HELP
4:21:05PM PEOPLE.
4:21:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:21:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:21:12PM AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS ON THIS AND WHATNOT.
4:21:17PM SOMETHING I SAID WHEN WE VOTED ON THIS LAST WEEK IS I'M BIG
4:21:20PM ON NOT OVERPROMISING PEOPLE THINGS IN TERMS -- AND I AM NOT
4:21:26PM SAYING ANYBODY HAS DONE THAT HERE, JUST TO BE CLEAR,
4:21:29PM ET CETERA, BUT I'M BIG ON NOT OVERPROMISING ON THINGS THAT
4:21:34PM ARE FORTHCOMING.
4:21:36PM FOR EXAMPLE, THE ISSUE -- THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS ON THIS
4:21:41PM RIGHT NOW.
4:21:42PM THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.
4:21:43PM ONE OF THE BIG UNKNOWNS, AND I THINK THIS HAS BEEN SAID
4:21:48PM BEFORE, LUXURY APARTMENTS, WHAT CONSTITUTES THAT WITH
4:21:52PM INFLATION, WHAT LEASES ARE GOING TO BE UNDER THIS PROPOSED
4:21:58PM LAW?
4:21:59PM THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWN THINGS THAT ARE THERE.
4:22:01PM I WANT TO SUPPORT SOME SORT OF IDEA GOING FORWARD, BUT
4:22:06PM THERE'S A LOT OF PRINCIPLES THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
4:22:10PM YOU KNOW, GETTING SUED, CITIES GET SUED, BUT SMART CITIES

4:22:17PM PREPARE FOR PERSPECTIVE LITIGATION.
4:22:20PM AND WHEN YOU HAVE A RED FLAG THAT YOU ARE GOING TO GET SUED,
4:22:23PM YOU HAVE GOT TO PREPARE THE RIGHT WAY.
4:22:25PM AND I JUST SEE A LOT OF RED FLAGS HERE.
4:22:28PM FOR EXAMPLE, A STUDY GROUP, AND THIS CAN BE ANSWERED LATER
4:22:34PM BUT DO WE NEED A FORMAL HOUSING STUDY, FOR EXAMPLE?
4:22:40PM IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, LET ME ASK THAT QUESTION AS A
4:22:45PM FOUNDATION, NOT EXPECTED TO HAVE A FORMAL HOUSING STUDY TO
4:22:50PM SUPPORT AGAINST PERSPECTIVE LITIGATION, OR AM I INCORRECT IN
4:22:55PM THAT REGARD?
4:22:56PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WHAT THE STATUTE PROVIDES FOR IS YOU ALL
4:22:59PM HAVE TO MAKE FINDINGS THAT THERE IS A HOUSING EMERGENCY SO
4:23:02PM GRAVE AS TO BE ENDANGERING THE GENERAL PUBLIC, AND ALSO
4:23:07PM MAKING FINDINGS THAT A RENT CONTROL MEASURE OR RENT
4:23:11PM STABILIZATION MEASURE SUCH THAT WOULD BE IN EFFECT FOR ONE
4:23:14PM YEAR, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED, THE AMOUNT ALLOWED BY
4:23:18PM STATUTE, WOULD ELIMINATE THAT GRAVE HOUSING EMERGENCY.
4:23:24PM THE STATUTE THEN GOES ON TO BE SAY THAT IF THERE'S
4:23:27PM LITIGATION ABOUT THE ORDINANCE, AND IF WE ENACT THE
4:23:31PM ORDINANCE, THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO
4:23:35PM BACK THOSE FINDINGS.
4:23:36PM AND SO WE HAVE ENCOURAGED YOU ALL THAT WE THINK A STUDY
4:23:41PM WOULD BE PRUDENT IN THIS CASE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FACT
4:23:44PM THAT NO ONE HAS DONE THIS IN 45 YEARS THAT THIS STATUTE WENT
4:23:48PM INTO EFFECT, HOW THAT PLAYS OUT IN A COURT OF LAW, IF WE PUT

4:23:54PM SOME FACTS AND FACTOR INTO THE ORDINANCE, THAT WOULD BE
4:23:58PM ULTIMATELY A DECISION BY THE COURT, AND AGAIN NO ONE HAS
4:24:02PM DONE THIS BEFORE.
4:24:05PM YOU ARE IN AN AREA THAT WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING, THE
4:24:12PM PRUDENT WAY TO GO ABOUT IT IS TO HAVE THE STUDY TO BACK IT
4:24:15PM BUT THERE'S NOT A HOLE LOT OF GUIDANCE HERE.
4:24:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
4:24:20PM IF I MAY CONTINUE, MR. CHAIR.
4:24:21PM SO GIVEN THAT, AGAIN, PEOPLE SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD
4:24:27PM GET SUED ON THIS.
4:24:28PM THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE FOR ME.
4:24:29PM THE ISSUE IS, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE FOUNDATION
4:24:34PM TO DEFEND THE LAWTON THIS?
4:24:36PM BECAUSE AGAIN THAT GOES BACK TO THE ISSUE OF OVERPROMISING.
4:24:39PM IF WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, WE HAVE GOT TO DO IT RIGHT.
4:24:42PM WE CAN'T GO 75 MILES AN HOUR IN A 45 MILE-PER-HOUR ZONE.
4:24:46PM THAT'S MY BIG, BIG CONCERN.
4:24:49PM BECAUSE WITH THE UNKNOWNS, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD PASS
4:24:54PM SOMETHING THAT WOULD PUT SOME TEMPORARY MEASURES ON GROWTH,
4:25:00PM LOWER INCOME PEOPLE, AND THIS INHUMANE AND BARBARIC HOUSING
4:25:07PM CRIES, I WANT TO VOTE YES ON THAT.
4:25:09PM I WANT TO BE PART OF THIS.
4:25:11PM BUT I CAN'T BE PART OF SOMETHING THAT IS -- THAT COULD NOT
4:25:17PM BE CALCULATED TO HELP THE PEOPLE THAT WE WANT TO HELP.
4:25:20PM AGAIN, I AM NOT PHILOSOPHICALLY OPPOSED TO RENT

4:25:23PM STABILIZATION.
4:25:24PM IT'S NARROWLY TAILORED IN TIME AND SCOPE, ET CETERA.
4:25:28PM I'M NOT.
4:25:28PM BUT WE HAVE GOT TO DO IT, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
4:25:32PM PUTTING THIS FOR NOVEMBER, THAT'S QUESTIONING THE PROCESS IN
4:25:36PM A WAY THAT'S GOING TO UNDERMINE THE ABILITY OF THIS LAW IF
4:25:39PM IT PASSED.
4:25:42PM TO PASS BY NOVEMBER.
4:25:43PM I THINK THAT'S OPEN AND OBVIOUS.
4:25:45PM AND I SUBMIT THIS OUT THERE FOR CITY COUNCIL AND WHATNOT.
4:25:51PM SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS.
4:25:53PM IF WE ARE GOING TO BE -- AND LITIGATION IS OFTEN LIKE A
4:25:57PM RACE, AND IF WE ARE GOING TO BE IN A RACE WITH VERY POWERFUL
4:26:01PM ENTITIES, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT -- RIGHT NOW I DON'T
4:26:05PM THINK WE ARE LOOKING DOWN TO SEE IF OUR SHOES ARE TIED.
4:26:08PM THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT I SUBMIT TO COUNCIL.
4:26:13PM THIS IS A BIG ISSUE AGAIN. I WANT TO GET TO A YES, BUT
4:26:16PM THERE'S GOT TO BE A SMART WAY TO GET TO THAT YES OR A
4:26:19PM MEASURED WAY TO GET TO THAT YES, THAT IS NOT GOING TO
4:26:22PM UNDERMINE THE PEOPLE THAT WE WANT TO HELP.
4:26:25PM NOT FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE BUT JUST TAKING EVERYTHING
4:26:28PM AWAY, IN LITIGATION, THAT WOULD -- WOULDN'T BE PROPERLY
4:26:34PM PRESENTED.
4:26:35PM JUST AGAIN MY THOUGHTS SPEAKING FROM THE HEART.
4:26:37PM THANK YOU.

4:26:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
4:26:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANOTHER BITE OF THE APPLE.
4:26:41PM GO AHEAD.
4:26:42PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE --
4:26:44PM >> CAN I MAKE A STATEMENT?
4:26:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
4:26:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO RIGHT AHEAD.
4:26:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM JUST GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE, MOVE
4:26:55PM TO PUT THE 5% BACK IN.
4:27:02PM SEE WHERE WE STAND AND MOVE ON.
4:27:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND TO THE MOTION?
4:27:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I, MR. CHAIR, SPEAK ON THE MOTION?
4:27:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:27:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
4:27:22PM SO AGAIN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO EVERYBODY, AND COUNCILMAN
4:27:26PM GUDES, THERE'S NOT A PERSON ON CITY COUNCIL WITH A BETTER
4:27:30PM RECORD ON HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PASSION,
4:27:35PM ET CETERA.
4:27:35PM BUT THIS MOTION AS IT'S SET, I RESPECTFULLY SEE IT, IF WE
4:27:39PM MOVE FOR THIS IN NOVEMBER, WITHOUT A HOUSING STUDY, RIGHT?
4:27:43PM I DON'T CARE IF WE GET SUED.
4:27:45PM WAY CARE ABOUT IS, ARE WE ADEQUATELY PREPARED FOR THAT
4:27:48PM LAWSUIT THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE SUPPORT?
4:27:51PM THIS SHOULD BE GIVEN ADDITIONAL TIME FOR THE STUDY.
4:27:55PM I SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING PRINCIPLES, BUT THE WAY ITSELF

4:27:58PM BEING PUT FORWARD I THINK IS GOING TO COLLIDE WITH
4:28:00PM PRINCIPLES THAT WE WANT TO PUT FORWARD IN THIS MOTION.
4:28:04PM AND I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT, IN MY OPINION.
4:28:08PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
4:28:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAS THERE A SECOND?
4:28:13PM COUNCILMAN GUDES' MOTION.
4:28:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL SECOND.
4:28:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION BEFORE US.
4:28:18PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:28:19PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:28:22PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
4:28:22PM >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE]
4:28:35PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THERE ARE CERTAIN EXEMPTIONS THAT WOULD
4:28:38PM HAVE TO STAY IN BY STATUTE.
4:28:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND FOR THE AFOREMENTIONED REASONS, NO.
4:28:46PM A PROPER, IF I MAY, A PROPER MOTION, GIVE US MORE TIME.
4:28:53PM I'LL JUST SAY A PROPER MOTION FOR THIS WOULD GIVE IT MORE
4:28:56PM TIME WITH A STUDY SO IT CAN BE ENFORCEABLE.
4:28:59PM I TAKE ISSUE WITH IT.
4:29:01PM THANK YOU.
4:29:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
4:29:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
4:29:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
4:29:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
4:29:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.

4:29:12PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH VIERA, MANISCALCO, MIRANDA
4:29:15PM AND CITRO VOTING NO AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT.
4:29:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I, MR. CHAIR, SAY SOMETHING?
4:29:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S MOVE FORWARD, MR. VIERA, PLEASE, AND
4:29:24PM THANK YOU.
4:29:27PM LET'S MOVE FORWARD, PLEASE.
4:29:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
4:29:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:29:31PM WE ARE GOING TO GO -- COUNCILMAN VIERA, LET'S MOVE FORWARD,
4:29:34PM PLEASE.
4:29:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CANCEL THE SPECIAL CALL ON
4:29:46PM AUGUST 22ND AT 9:00 A.M.
4:29:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE A SECOND?
4:29:52PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:29:53PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:29:56PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
4:29:58PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:30:01PM THANK YOU.
4:30:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO OPEN THE 9:30 AND 10:30 PUBLIC
4:30:04PM HEARINGS, ALL OF THEM.
4:30:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND AT 4:30.
4:30:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:30:10PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:30:12PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:30:13PM ANY OPPOSED?

4:30:16PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 39.
4:30:17PM E-2022-8 CHAPTER 2 I BELIEVE IS A REQUEST TO BE CONTINUED BY
4:30:28PM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO THE 28th.
4:30:34PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 39.
4:30:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
4:30:37PM WE NEED MORE ADDITIONAL TIME TO WORK WITH SOME OF THE
4:30:40PM STAKEHOLDERS ON THE LANGUAGE.
4:30:42PM I WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TODAY, BUT IF I MAY, THE NEXT
4:30:48PM AVAILABLE COUNCIL DATE, SIR.
4:30:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:30:51PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:30:53PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?
4:30:58PM SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL VOTE.
4:31:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
4:31:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
4:31:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
4:31:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
4:31:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE -- OKAY.
4:31:23PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 40.
4:31:26PM E2022 --
4:31:28PM >>THE CLERK: YOU DIDN'T VOTE.
4:31:32PM >> I'M SORRY, ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
4:31:34PM >>THE CLERK: YOU ARE THE LAST ONE.
4:31:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
4:31:36PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON ABSENT AT VOTE.

4:31:51PM >>ERIC COTTON: CITY OF TAMPA DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
4:31:53PM OFFICE.
4:31:53PM I'M HERE FOR SECOND READING.
4:31:56PM AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 27 ---SECTION 27-11.
4:32:07PM >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
4:32:10PM SEEING NONE.
4:32:13PM IS PETITIONER HERE?
4:32:15PM WE ARE THE PETITIONER.
4:32:18PM >>ERIC COTTON: THE CITY IS.
4:32:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:32:22PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:32:25PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
4:32:27PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:32:29PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU PLEASE?
4:32:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 40, FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER
4:32:35PM 27.
4:32:36PM AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
4:32:38PM ADOPTION.
4:32:38PM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO
4:32:41PM FORMAL DECISION, MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
4:32:45PM ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 27, ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT,
4:32:48PM AMENDING CHAPTER 27-11, CREATION OF NEW LOTS, REDUCTION OF
4:32:53PM LOT OR YARD DIMENSIONS BELOW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, REPEALING
4:32:59PM ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH,
4:33:02PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

4:33:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
4:33:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:33:07PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:33:08PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
4:33:14PM SORRY.
4:33:15PM STILL GETTING USED TO RECORDING.
4:33:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, MR. CHAIR, MAY I STATE MY --
4:33:21PM >> YES.
4:33:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: BECAUSE I CAN'T --
4:33:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HE CAN'T RECORD.
4:33:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S GO BACK TO ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
4:33:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY.
4:33:33PM THANK YOU, SIR.
4:33:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
4:33:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
4:33:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
4:33:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
4:33:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
4:33:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
4:33:41PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
4:33:44PM ABSENT.
4:33:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 41.
4:33:47PM FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
4:33:53PM >>ERIC COTTON: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, THIS IS THE
4:33:54PM SECOND READING TO AMEND SECTION 27-132, SPECIAL USE

4:33:59PM CRITERIA, SPECIFICALLY THE TRANSFER DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.
4:34:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COTTON?
4:34:05PM SEEING NONE, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:34:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE E --
4:34:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
4:34:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAIT, THIS GROUP WAS LOST ABOUT 4:00 THIS
4:34:21PM AFTERNOON.
4:34:23PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:34:24PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:34:26PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:34:27PM THANK YOU.
4:34:28PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:34:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: E 2022-8 CHAPTER 27, ORDINANCE BEING
4:34:33PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF
4:34:36PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO TRANSFER OF
4:34:38PM DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE
4:34:41PM OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27 ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT,
4:34:43PM AMENDING SECTION 27-1 2 REGULATIONS GOVERN INDIVIDUAL
4:34:47PM SPECIAL USES REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES
4:34:51PM IN CONFLICT THEREWITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING
4:34:53PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
4:34:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY DEMAND GUDES, SECONDED BY
4:34:58PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:34:59PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
4:35:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.

4:35:02PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
4:35:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
4:35:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
4:35:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
4:35:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
4:35:08PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
4:35:11PM ABSENT.
4:35:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 42, VAC 22-17.
4:35:18PM >>ROSS SAMMONS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
4:35:22PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING.
4:35:24PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
4:35:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
4:35:30PM SEEING NONE.
4:35:32PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:35:34PM SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:35:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:35:40PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
4:35:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE VAC 22 SO 17.
4:35:44PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
4:35:46PM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING,
4:35:49PM CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING CERTAIN RIGHTS-OF-WAY
4:35:53PM LOCATED SOUTH OF WILDER AVENUE, NORTH OF ELLICOTT STREET,
4:35:56PM EAST OF 34th STREET AND WEST OF 36th STREET WITHIN
4:35:59PM THE PLATS OF PRINCE'S SUBDIVISION AND THOMAS HEITER
4:36:05PM SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

4:36:07PM FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT
4:36:10PM TO CERTAIN COVENANTS CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE
4:36:13PM PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND
4:36:16PM PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS,
4:36:18PM INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR
4:36:21PM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
4:36:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:36:26PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:36:28PM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
4:36:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
4:36:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
4:36:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
4:36:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
4:36:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
4:36:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
4:36:37PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
4:36:39PM ABSENT.
4:36:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
4:36:41PM NEXT, AGENDA ITEM VAC 22-18.
4:36:47PM MR. SAMMONS.
4:36:48PM >>ROSS SAMMONS: PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING.
4:36:53PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
4:36:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
4:36:57PM SEEING NONE?
4:37:00PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

4:37:01PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:37:03PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:37:05PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:37:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:37:08PM I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
4:37:10PM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
4:37:12PM VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING A CERTAIN
4:37:15PM RIGHT-OF-WAY ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF TARPON STREET, NORTH
4:37:18PM OF CANAL STREET, EAST OF ELLIOTT STREET AND WEST OF GERMER
4:37:23PM STREET WITHIN THE MAP OF PORT OF TAMPA CITY IN THE CITY OF
4:37:27PM TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY
4:37:30PM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS
4:37:33PM CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
4:37:36PM HEREIN PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR
4:37:38PM VIOLATIONS PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS INTERPRETATIONS AND
4:37:41PM REPEALING CONFLICTS PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN
4:37:43PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
4:37:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:37:46PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
4:37:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
4:37:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
4:37:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
4:37:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
4:37:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
4:37:52PM >>BILL CARLSON:

4:37:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
4:37:54PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
4:37:57PM ABSENT.
4:37:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE WE BEGIN ON ITEM 44, COUNCILMAN
4:38:01PM VIERA, DO YOU HAVE THE VERBIAGE IN FRONT OF YOU?
4:38:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
4:38:04PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: REMEMBER THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU
4:38:10PM SHOULD ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
4:38:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE REZ 21-87 FORMERLY KNOWN AS PH
4:38:19PM 22-75320.
4:38:24PM >>ERIC COTTON: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
4:38:26PM THE SECOND READING, JUST AS A REMINDER THIS IS A REZONING
4:38:32PM FROM PDA, RO-1, CI, CG, RM-24 AND RS OF 0 TO A PDA.
4:38:40PM I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS IN THE AUDIENCE, I BELIEVE, TODAY,
4:38:43PM FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
4:38:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COTTON?
4:38:48PM SEEING NONE, MS. WELLS?
4:38:50PM >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
4:38:51PM JUST FOR THE RECORD, I FILED A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE WITH THE
4:38:55PM CLERK'S OFFICE FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
4:38:59PM THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE SIMPLY CHANGES THE EFFECTIVE DATE
4:39:02PM OF THE REZONING ORDINANCE TO MAKE IT EFFECTIVE UPON THE
4:39:06PM APPROVAL IN THE FUTURE OF A SECOND AMENDMENT FOR THE TAMPA
4:39:11PM HEIGHTS REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
4:39:17PM THAT DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT IS BEING FINALIZED TO COINCIDE

4:39:22PM WITH SECOND READING ON THE REZONING BUT THAT DIDN'T OCCUR.
4:39:24PM SO RATHER THAN DELAY TODAY'S HEARING, WE ARE RECOMMENDING
4:39:29PM YOU HEAR IT TODAY, APPROVE IT TODAY, AND THEN JUST CHANGE
4:39:33PM THE EFFECTIVE DATE.
4:39:35PM THANK YOU.
4:39:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
4:39:43PM ARE WE HEARING FROM MR. COTTON?
4:39:46PM >>ERIC COTTON: NO, SIR.
4:39:47PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
4:39:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL DO THAT.
4:39:52PM ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
4:39:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
4:39:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
4:39:59PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
4:40:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE ARE TAKING THEY WILL OUT.
4:40:11PM THAT'S WHY I VOTED NO.
4:40:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:40:15PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:40:18PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:40:20PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAVE THE SUBSTITUTE IN FRONT OF YOU?
4:40:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, I DO.
4:40:24PM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
4:40:27PM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
4:40:29PM RELATING TO AN AREA REZONING GENERALLY KNOWN AS THE TAMPA
4:40:31PM HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT DEVELOPMENT, GENERAL LOCATION OF WHICH IS

4:40:34PM SOUTH OF ROSS AVENUE, NORTH OF THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, WEST
4:40:37PM OF FRANKLIN STREET AND HIGHLAND AVENUE, AND EAST OF THE
4:40:40PM HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AND NORTH RIDGEWOOD AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
4:40:43PM TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
4:40:45PM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PDA PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
4:40:48PM ALTERNATIVE TO RO-1 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, CI, COMMERCIAL
4:40:54PM INTENSIVE, CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL, RM-24 RESIDENTIAL
4:40:58PM MULTIFAMILY, AND RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO ZONING
4:41:01PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PDA, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
4:41:03PM ALTERNATIVE, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
4:41:06PM CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
4:41:08PM DATE.
4:41:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
4:41:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:41:12PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:41:14PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
4:41:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
4:41:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
4:41:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
4:41:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
4:41:21PM >>BILL CARLSON:
4:41:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
4:41:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
4:41:24PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO AND
4:41:27PM CARLSON BEING ABSENT.

4:41:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN WE HOLD OFF ON INFORMATION REPORTS AND
4:41:36PM NEW BUSINESS UNTIL THIS EVENING?
4:41:40PM I STILL NEED A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
4:41:43PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:41:45PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:41:46PM WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 5:01.
4:42:20PM (MEETING ADJOURNED)
4:42:26PM

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