CITY OF TAMPA CRA
THURSDAY, AUGUST 18, 2022
9:00 A.M.

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09:01:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
OUR INVOCATION WILL BE AGAIN TODAY BY NICOLE AZAR OF
CHOCKY'S CAT RESCUE.
AFTER YEARS OF WORKING TO RESCUE THE HOMELESS PET
POPULATION.
TO HUMANELY REDUCE THE POPULATION OF HOMELESS CATS IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA THROUGH TRAP, NEUTER, VACCINATE AND RETURN.
THIS TRAP AND RETURN POLICY IS MORE HUMANE AND PROVIDES A
PUBLIC HEALTH BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.
IF THE CATS ARE SOCIAL AND HAVE KITTENS, NICOLE UTILIZES
LOCAL RESCUES.
BY EMPOWERING PEOPLE FOR COMMUNITY CATS AND TRAP, VACCINATE,
NEUTER AND RETURN, CHOCOLATEY'S CAT RESCUE HELPS THE
NUMEROUS CATS THAT ARE BEING KILLED IN ANIMAL SHELTER.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.
09:02:35AM >> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
09:02:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION.
09:02:41AM >> I HAVE A BRIEF READING OF MATTHEW SKULLY REGARDING
KINDNESS TO ANIMALS AND CHARITY TO ALL LIVING THINGS.
IT IS TRUE AS WE ARE OFTEN REMINDED THAT KINDNESS TO ANIMALS
ARE AMONG THE HUMBLER OF DUTIES OF HUMAN CHARITY.
AMONG THAT REASON OF THE MOST NEGLECTED.
AND IT IS TRUE THAT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE INJUSTICE AND HUMAN
SUFFERING IN THE WORLD TO MAKE THE WRONGS DONE TO ANIMALS
SMALL AND SECONDARY.
THE ANSWER IS THAT JUSTICE IS NOT A FINITE COMMODITY, NOR
ARE KINDNESS AND LOVE.
WHERE WE FIND WRONGS DONE TO ANIMALS, NO EXCUSE TO SAY MORE
IMPORTANT WRONGS ARE TO HUMAN BEINGS AND LET US CONCENTRATE
ON THOSE.
A WRONG IS A WRONG AND OFTEN THE LITTLE ONES, WHEN THEY ARE
SHRUGGED OFF AS NOTHING SPREAD AND DO THE GRAVEST HARM TO
OURSELVES AND OTHERS.
THANK YOU.
I KEPT IS SHORT FOR YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:03:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL.
09:03:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
09:04:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.
09:04:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
09:04:08AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
09:04:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.
09:04:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
09:04:12AM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:04:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TO REVIEW THE RULES PERTAINING TO PUBLIC
COMMENT AND PARTICIPATION IN THE CRA MEETING, I WILL TURN IT
OVER TO MORRIS MASSEY.
09:04:24AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THIS IS THE AUGUST 18, 2022 MEETING OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OR THE CRA HELD IN CITY
COUNCIL CHAMBERS IN THE THIRD FLOOR OF OLD CITY HALL, 315 E.
KENNEDY BOULEVARD HERE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON AND VIEW IT BY CABLE
TELEVISION ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640 OR FRONTIER CHANNEL 15.
WE ALSO BELIEVE WE HAVE INTERNET CONNECTIVITY I THINK AT
LAST.
SO YOU CAN ALSO VIEW IT BY THE INTERNET AT
TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
THE PUBLIC IS ALSO ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING
DURING PUBLIC COMMENT FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MEN.
PER SPEAKER HERE IN PERSON OR THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
VIRTUALLY BY WAY OF COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY THAT I
BELIEVE WE HAVE ACCESS TO NOW; HOWEVER, THE USE OF CMT
REQUIRES PRE-REGISTRATION OF THE CITY CLERK OFFICE AND I
DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS REREGISTERED TO SPEAK BY CMT.
DIRECTIONS ARE INCLUDED IN THE NOTICE OF THE MEETING AND ON
THE AGENDA.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION WAIVING THE CRA RULES TO ALLOW PUBLIC
COMMENT BY CMT.
THANK YOU.
09:05:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECONDED
BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THIS FAVOR.
OPPOSED?
OKAY.
SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO MISS TRAVIS, OUR INTERIM CRA
DIRECTOR.
TO TALK ABOUT ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA THIS MORNING?
09:05:52AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD -- I ALMOST SAID
COUNCIL.
YES, MA'AM.
I AM -- THERE IS A REQUEST FOR US TO CONTINUE ITEMS 1 AND 2,
PLEASE, TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING PLEASE.
09:06:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 1 AND 2.
09:06:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
09:06:16AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
IF WE COULD MOVE THE -- THE BUDGET
CONVERSATION I AM LOOKING AT -- SIX.
IF WE CAN MOVE THE BUDGET PRESENTATION BEFORE NUMBER THREE
PLEASE.
09:06:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
09:06:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
09:06:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
OKAY.
09:06:42AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
PERFECT.
THANK YOU.
09:06:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
09:06:49AM >> SO MOVED.
09:06:50AM >> SECOND.
09:06:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR.
GREAT.
NOW WE ARE IN OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.
THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME TO COMMENT ON ANY ITEM FOR UP TO THREE
MINUTES.
IF YOU HAVE -- IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT TODAY, STAND
UP AND FORM A LIFE TO YOUR RIGHT, MY LEFT.
09:07:11AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
THREE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS REAL QUICKLY.
ONE.
IT JUST CAME ACROSS THE NEWS COUNTER THE OTHER DAY THAT THE
AQUARIUM WAS RECEIVING $40 MILLION FOR UPGRADES.
AND ALTHOUGH YOU MIGHT NOT DEAL WITH THAT BUDGET, IT WAS
VERY GLARING THAT WATER SEA CREATURES IS GOING TO BE
AFFORDED, YOU KNOW, COMFORT DOWN THERE.
TOURISTS COMING THROUGH.
THE AQUARIUM IS GOING TO BE BEAUTIFUL, AND A SMALL AMOUNT OF
MONEY THAT IS BEING SET I ASIDE FOR THIS HOUSING BUDGET.
I KNOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FEDERAL MONIES BEING ALIGNED
WITH THAT, BUT I HAVE BEEN IN THIS CITY LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW
THAT WHEN FEDERAL MONIES DO COME TO TOWN, IT DOESN'T USUALLY
HIT OF THE TARGETED INTENDED PURPOSE.
BY THAT I MEAN I HAVE SEEN WHERE THEATRES WERE BUILT WITH
COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT MONEY.
PARKING STATIONS WERE BUILT IN THE PAST.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE MONEY THAT IS RESTRICTED FOR HOUSING.
I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL COME BACK TO THE CITY, TO THE
MAYOR AND MAKE A MORE DEMAND FOR AN INCREASE FOR HOUSING
THAT WILL BE WAY ABOVE $5 MILLION.
SECONDLY, WE ARE TALKING OF THE APPRENTICE PROGRAM.
I AM LOOKING DOWN AT THE HANNA STATION.
I AM DOWN THERE ALL THE TIME.
I AM TRYING TO SEE PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME, WHERE ARE THEY
WORKING AT?
THEY ARE NOT DOWN THERE.
I WANT TO SEE THE NUMBERS COMING BACK -- WE DIDN'T DISCUSS
THAT HANNA PROJECT.
HOW IN THE MIDST OF OUR COMMUNITY, BLACK FOLKS ARE NOT ABLE
TO GET JOBS DOWN THERE.
TELL US THE NUMBER OUTSIDE OF THE SMALL MONETARY LITTLE
SET-ASIDE THAT HAS BEEN MADE FOR ONE OR TWO ENTREPRENEURS TO
GET A FEW CONTRACTS.
THE MASSES OF THE PEOPLE ARE NONBLACK.
AND THIRDLY, I SUPPORT THE WOMEN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE ABOUT
THEIR BODY.
I LOVE THE MAYOR'S POSITION AND YOUR LEADERSHIP AROUND THAT,
COUNCILWOMAN.
BUT SOMETHING IS EMERGING IN THIS CITY THAT HAS NOTHING TO
DO WITH YOUR HANDS.
BUT WILL HAVE DIRECT IMPACT ON BLACK PEOPLE LIVING IN THE
CITY AND THAT IS THE EMERGENCE OF THE BIKING WHILE BLACK.
WE DON'T CARE WHAT THE GOVERNOR IS SAYING, THIS IS YOUR
CITY.
AND WE WILL HOPE THAT THE MAYOR WILL MOVE AS FAST SPEED
DIRECTIONS TO ALERT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, DO NOT INFRINGE
ON THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO SATISFY THE THIRST OF THE
GOVERNOR.
THANK YOU.
09:10:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COME ON.
YOU ARE NEXT.
09:10:18AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
IT'S INTERESTING THAT -- HOW RELATIONSHIPS GET NORMALIZED
AND PEOPLE SEE IT AS JUST BEING NORMAL.
AND WHEN PEOPLE -- IF YOU WERE HAVING A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP
WITH YOUR MOTHER OR WITH YOUR SHIELD, SOME PEOPLE LOOK AT IT
FROM THE OUTSIDE, AND THEY SAY, OH, MY GOSH THAT IS NASTY.
SOMETHING PERVERTED ABOUT THAT.
IF A MAN AND A MAN IS HAVING A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP.
SOME PEOPLE LOOK AT IT SAY THAT IS NASTY, NOT IN THE BIBLE.
SOMETHING IS WRONG ABOUT THAT.
THEY SAY PEDOPHILIA, INCEST BEASTIALITY IF YOU HAVE SEX TO
AN ANIMAL.
PEOPLE ARE DOING IT IS A NORMALIZED RELATIONSHIP.
HAVING A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH A FIVE-YEAR-OLD AND
TEN-YEAR-OLD, AFTER A WHILE IT WILL STOP HURTING AND BE A
NORMAL RELATIONSHIP.
THAT IS THE KIND OF RELATIONSHIP THIS CITY HAS WITH POOR AND
WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE.
THE KIND OF RELATIONSHIP THAT CAPITALISM HAS WITH POOR AND
WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE.
THEY NORMALIZE IT.
THEY NORMALIZE DOING POOR AND WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE DIRTY.
THEY NORMALIZE DOING AFRICAN PEOPLE DIRTY AND LOOK AROUND --
THE LADY HERE GIVING THE INVOCATION THIS MORNING TALKING OF
MAKING A COMPARISON -- MAKING A COMPARISON RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN HOW YOU TREAT ANIMALS AND SAY, HEY, LIKE, REALLY,
JUST AS BAD AS -- WELL, THE WAY YOU TREAT HUMANS AND SO
FORTH.
NO, YOU SHOULDN'T LET THAT ESCAPE YOU HOW ANIMALS ARE BEING
TREATED.
WELL, YOU DEFINITELY SHOULDN'T LET THE WAY AFRICAN PEOPLE IN
THIS CITY, POOR AND WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE IN THIS CITY, AND
EVEN THE MIDDLE-CLASS PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW IN THIS CITY GET
TREATED.
$5 MILLION OF A $1 BILLION BUDGET TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES
AND THE PROBLEMS OF HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS, AND PEOPLE'S
EXISTENCE AND FAMILY.
$5 MILLION AND JUST STATED $40 MILLION FOR THE AQUARIUM AND
NORMALIZED HOW THEY TREAT POOR AND WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE AND
IT SEEMS LIKE, HEY, THAT IS NORMAL.
THEY CAN DO THAT.
THE CITY COUNCIL IS NASTY.
NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE IN CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL ITSELF
IS NASTY.
AND IF YOU COME IN HERE, IF YOU WALK UP THAT STEP -- A
STICKER ON THE STEP, ON THE STAIRWELL THAT HAS BEEN THERE
FOR MONTHS.
THEY DON'T CLEAN THE FILTHY BUILDING.
THEY DON'T CLEAN THIS NASTY CARPET.
IT'S NASTY.
AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE NASTY AND THEY ARE NASTY
THE WAY THEY TREAT POOR AND WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE.
THEY ARE NASTY IN WHAT THEY DID.
YOU SEE THE NASTY PEOPLE LINED UP BEHIND THE GOVERNOR TO SAY
THEY ARE GOING TO FIRE SOMEONE, REMOVE A PERSON FROM THEIR
JOB WHO THEY SAY I HAVE SOME SOLIDARITY WITH WRONG THINGS
THAT ARE GOING ON HISTORICALLY FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS AND
WHAT THEY DID AND INSERTED SOMEONE IN THAT POSITION TO START
TREATING BLACK PEOPLE NASTY AGAIN TO NORMALIZE THOSE
RELATIONSHIPS.
THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND NONE OF THEM I SPEAK OF, INCEST AND
THE OTHER RELATIONSHIPS, PEDOPHILIA, THEY ARE ALL WRONG AND
THE WAY AFRICAN PEOPLE GET TREATED IN THIS CITY IS 100%
WRONG AND WE NEED BETTER TREATMENT AND NEED IT FOR THE CITY
COUNCIL.
09:13:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
09:13:48AM >> MENTESNOT.
IT MEANS ANYTHING POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU.
09:13:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:13:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOOD MORNING.
09:13:58AM >> GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, CRA BOARD MEMBERS, ALISON
HEWITT, EAST TAMPA RESIDENT, BUSINESS OWNER, AND CHAIRMAN OF
THE EAST TAMPA CRA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
SO WE HAVE A VERY FULL AGENDA, AND I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT
THE ITEMS ON THERE.
FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CHAIR HURTAK AND KELLY FOR
TAKING THE TOUR OF EAST TAMPA WITH MYSELF AND CHAIR TATE.
WE HAVE CHALLENGES IN EAST TAMPA, BUT SO EXCITED OF THE
OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE THAT ARE COMING UP WITH THE HELP AND
SUPPORT OF THE CRA.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
WELL, THE -- THE CRA BUDGET DRAFT PLANNING.
I WANTED TO STATE THAT THIS YEAR'S PROCESS WAS VERY
INCLUSIVE AND INCLUDED VERY INSIGHTFUL DEBATE WITH THE CAC
MEMBERS AND THE COMMUNITY.
WE WOULD LIKE TO ON AGENDA TWO, REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT OF EAST
TAMPA CRP, 2004.
WE NEED FOR THAT MO MOVE FORWARD.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, EVEN THOUGH SIRE DID NOT HAVE THE LIST
OF THE AVAILABLE LANDS IN EAST TAMPA.
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE EAST TAMPA CRA ECONOMIC SUB
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED IN THEIR BUDGET A
DEVELOPER CONSULTANT NOT HAVE DEVELOPMENT HAPPEN TO US BUT
THE COMMUNITY WORK TO DEVELOP WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT
CONSULTANT, DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND DEVELOPMENT
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THOSE PROCESSES.
SO THAT DEVELOPER CONSULTANT WILL BE WORKING AT THE BEHEST.
CRA, THE COMMUNITY, WORKING AT THE FEASIBILITY AND THE
ACTUAL MARKETABILITY FOR THOSE PROJECTS.
LIKE TO ALSO REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE PREDEVELOPMENT
PROGRAM.
SO EXCITED IT IS HERE TODAY.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN GUDES.
HE RECOMMENDED THAT -- WELL, HE REQUESTED THAT WE COME UP
WITH OPTIONS TO HELP MITIGATE GENTRIFICATION IN EAST TAMPA.
THIS IS ONE OF THE IDEAS.
THANK YOU FOR STAFF FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK TO GET US
HERE.
I HAVE BEFORE YOU THE CENTER FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS
BEEN WORKING VERY HARD WITH LANDOWNERS.
YOU WILL SEE THOSE LANDOWNERS.
THEY HAVE OVER 90 YEARS OF OWNING THEIR PROPERTY TO BE HE
WILL GIVEN FOR THIS PROGRAM.
SO I AM ASKING FOR THIS PROCESS TO ALLOW THE STAFF TO HAVE
FLEXIBILITY, BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT IS NOT EASY
SOMETIMES.
TO GET TO A PROJECT YOU NEED FLEXIBILITY.
I AM ASKING THAT THE STAFF HAS FLEXIBILITY WITH THIS PROGRAM
TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WILL COME
FORWARD TO APPLY FOR THIS PROGRAM.
THE LAST THING IS THE EAST TAMPA SAP.
I THINK ALL OF YOU MIGHT HAVE RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM ME
ABOUT THIS.
DISAPPOINTED THAT WE HAD THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE A
FANTASTIC SAP IF THEY FOLLOWED THE CONTRACT.
WE HAVE A GOOD PLAN.
BUT IT IS NOT WHAT THE CONTRACT ASKED FOR WHICH WOULD HAVE
AGAIN US ONE YEAR AND FIVE-YEAR GOALS AND PLANS WITH SO MUCH
COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION.
IF WE HAVE A ROAD MAP THAT YOU CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS, IT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT MORE HELPFUL.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
I AM GLAD I GOT THROUGH IT ALL AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR
QUESTIONS.
09:17:15AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MADAM CHAIR.
09:17:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I BELIEVE, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:17:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
STICK AROUND LATER.
I SEE THE PACKET.
I KNOW STAFF WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION.
AND I AM GOING TO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU DURING THAT
PRESENTATION TIME.
09:17:28AM >> I WILL BE HERE FOR THE ENTIRE MEETING TODAY.
09:17:31AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
09:17:32AM >> GOOD MORNING.
KEELA McCASKILL, TAMPA RESIDENT.
I DON'T HAVE TO SAY MUCH.
SHE TOUCHED THE PREDEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY.
I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE PREDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, BUT VERY
DISAPPOINTED THAT SUBPAR SAP IS BACK AGAIN FOR DISCUSSION.
I AM MORE SO DISAPPOINTED IN THE PROCESS AND HOW IT CAME
BACK.
THOSE CAC MEMBERS WERE WARNED OF HEARING ABOUT A SAP.
THEY WERE MORE CONCERNED HOW THEY WOULD LOOK AS A COMMUNITY
IF WE DIDN'T PAY.
I DON'T DO THAT IN MY DAY-TO-DAY LIVING AND I DON'T WANT TO
SEE IRRESPONSIBLE -- THE CAC BE IRRESPONSIBLE OR OF THE PIS
POOR SUBPAR PLAN.
A CONTRACT.
IT WAS THE PRINCIPLE.
ADHERED TO WHAT YOU WERE PAID TO DO AND THEY DID NOT DO
THAT.
THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED ANYWHERE ELSE BUT EAST
TAMPA NOR THE PROCESS TO WEIGH THEM DOWN AND KEEP BRINGING
THEM BACK WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE EITHER.
I AM ASKING TO SAY NO AND SEND IT BACK AND LET THE
CONTRACTOR ADHERE TO WHAT THEY ARE PAID TO DO.
THE REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM -- I SUBMITTED IT TO THE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE.
NOT ONLY WILL THIS PROGRAM WORK WITH SOME MEMBERS OF THE
COMMUNITY THAT SERVED IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES OVER 40, SOME OF
THEM 50, SOME OF THEM 60 YEARS HAVE BEEN IN EAST TAMPA.
SO I WANT TO SEE -- BRING A DIFFERENT STANDARD FOR EAST
TAMPA AND THE MIND SET -- OH, IT IS EAST TAMPA.
SUBPAR.
ACCEPTED THAT SAP.
I WANT DEVELOPMENT TO BE DIFFERENT.
I WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE A WOW FACTOR.
THIS PROGRAM WILL HELP ELIMINATE BLACKS.
SOME OF THEM ARE BLIGHTED.
CODE ENFORCEMENT FINES.
POLICE DEPARTMENT JUST ISSUED A CITATION ALLOWING
DEVELOPMENT TO TAKE PLACE AND WORK WITH THEM ON THE SOFT
COST OF DEVELOPMENT WILL HELP, LIKE I SAID, ELIMINATE BLACK,
AND REDUCE ECONOMIC IMPACT AND ASSIST IN PROVIDING SOME OF
THEM, MIXED USE.
PROVIDE HOUSE THE MIDDLE OF A CRISIS.
MOST OF ALL, MORE SO I AM IMPRESSED THAT, AGAIN, QUALITY IS
IMPORTANT FOR DEVELOPMENT.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE INEXPERIENCED DEVELOPMENT, SUBPAR
DEVELOPMENT, CITY CONTRACTOR WITH FINES AND DOING BAD
BUSINESS IN THE CITY.
I WENT AND FOUND A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR DEVELOPER THAT IS
WILLING TO GIVE BACK.
THEY ARE LOCATED IN EAST TAMPA.
BLACK-OWNED.
BUILDING HOSPITALS.
THE GRAZER MUSEUM, THEY BUILT SOME OF THE MALLS, THE
AIRPORTS.
THEY LITTLE BIT EVERYWHERE IN TAMPA THEY ARE LOCATED IN EAST
TAMPA.
THEY ARE BLACK IN EAST TAMPA.
AND THEY ARE GOING TO HELP SOME OF THESE TRADES THAT CAN'T
GET PAST OFFERING QUALITY PRODUCTS.
THEY WILL DO TRAINING AND ALLOW THEM TO ASSIST IN THE
DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AS WE COLLECTIVELY TRANSFORM EAST TAMPA.
I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT IS A WOW.
MULTIMILLION DOLLAR DEVELOPMENT.
TRAINING AND EMPOWERMENT AND OFFERING A SOLUTION TO THIS
HOUSING CRISIS.
I AM ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT IT AND SAY YES TO THE PROGRAM.
THANK YOU.
09:20:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
09:20:32AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:20:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOOD MORNING.
09:20:44AM >> CITY OF TAMPA AND COUNCILMEMBERS.
I AM RICHARD ROMEO, 1309 EAST NORTH BAY, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
APPROXIMATELY THE 10th OF AUGUST, I WAS CLEANING UP MY
PROPERTY, AND CODE ENFORCEMENT CAME BY AND SAID -- ASKED ME
-- AREN'T YOU A LITTLE TOO LATE DOING THAT.
AND SHOULDN'T YOU HAVE DONE ALL THIS SINCE LAST WEEK.
AND HE ALSO STATED THAT WHY I WASN'T AT A HEARING LAST WEEK.
MR. GONZALEZ ADVISED ME THAT I HAVE A FINE GOING ON ON MY
PROPERTY WHICH I WAS NEVER NOTIFIED THAT I HAD A COURT DATE
OR A HEARING.
I DID NOT GET A LETTER OR -- OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
I AFFIRMED THAT I DID NOT GET ANYTHING AT ALL, NO NOTICE, NO
PHONE CALL, ANYTHING AT ALL.
AND HUMBLY REQUESTING THAT BE GIVEN A FAIR OPPORTUNITY AN
TIME TO CORRECT WHATEVER THE CITY ASKS ME TO DO.
BEFORE THIS -- BEFORE THIS FINE ACCUMULATE.
09:21:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOUR PROPERTY IS -- YOU SAY IN
COMPLIANCE.
09:21:57AM >> NO --
09:21:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS BOARD --
09:22:02AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
UNFORTUNATELY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS
IS NOT ADMINISTERED THROUGH THIS BOARD.
DONE THROUGH CHAPTER 162 IN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT MAGISTRATE
AND THEY ARE SITTING AS A CRA BOARD, NOT EVEN CITY COUNCIL.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE
SPECIFICALLY TODAY.
OBVIOUSLY WE CAN GET YOU -- AND MISS TRAVIS IS HERE AND
OTHERS CAN GET YOU IN TOUCH WITH CITY STAFF TO TRY TO
ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS, BUT WE CAN
DEFINITELY --
09:22:32AM >> WHAT CAN I DO AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID I WASN'T
NOTIFIED AND FINES ARE RUNNING STARTING -- I THINK IT WAS
LAST WEEK ON MY PROPERTY.
09:22:40AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
SIR, THEY CAN'T HELP YOU WITH THAT.
WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS GIVE YOU MY CARD AND CALL MY OFFICE
AND SEND ME AN E-MAIL AND HAVE MY ASSISTANCE WORK WITH YOU
AND CONNECT YOU WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICE AND GET
THAT LOOKED AT AND TAKEN CARE OF.
I AM GOING TO CALL -- I AM NICOLE TRAVIS.
CALL THAT PHONE NUMBER -- I AM GOING TO TEXT HER TO LOOK OUT
FOR A CALL FOR YOU AND CONNECTED YOU TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
09:23:08AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HAVE A GOOD DAY.
09:23:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[INAUDIBLE]
SO WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET.
09:23:42AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
IF I CAN HAVE THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION FOR THE BUDGET
PLANNING.
SO THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION RECENTLY AT YOUR
BUDGET WORKSHOP ABOUT CRA FUNDS.
AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE CACS WORK VERY HARD TO PUT
TOGETHER A PROPOSAL THAT -- OR ALLOCATE FUNDS THAT MESHES
WITH THEIR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, AS WELL AS WHAT THEY ARE
PROJECTED TO DO IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
THERE ARE NEW REVENUES, AD VALOREM TAX REVENUES.
YOU SEE $12 MILLION, YOU HAVE -- $12.6 MILLION.
$10.6 MILLION THAT CAN BE ALLOCATED TO HOUSING PROGRAMS IF
YOU WANT THAT.
THE $2 MILLION OUT OF THAT IS ALREADY COMMITTED TO WATER
STREET PROJECTS.
SO I DIDN'T WANT -- THAT IS ALREADY COMMITTED.
SO I AM GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE PRESENTATION REAL QUICK AND
STOP ME ALONG THE WAY IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO THE TOTAL INCREMENT REVENUES FOR FISCAL YEAR '23
PROJECTING AT $57,914,000.
THAT IS A -- YOU WILL SEE THAT'S A 20% INCREASE OVER ALL THE
DISTRICTS FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR.
THIS IS HOW YOUR BUDGET WAS ALLOCATED IN FISCAL YEAR '22.
YOU HAD 10.3% GOING TOWARD AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES
AND 33% GOING TO REDEVELOPMENT INVESTMENTS, DISTRICT
PROGRAMS AND SERVICES HAD ABOUT 12%, $4.5% TO OPERATIONS,
AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS TOOK THE REMAINING PORTION
OF THE BALANCE.
BASED ON THE ALLOCATIONS WE WORKED WITH THE CACS THIS IS
WHAT THAT ALLOCATION LOOKED LIKE.
3.9% FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES.
REDEVELOPMENT INVESTMENTS, ABOUT 20.5%.
DISTRICT PROGRAMS AND SERVICES, 11.7.
OPERATIONS AND ADMINISTRATIONS, 4.2.
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AROUND 60%.
SO FIRST, WE ARE GOING TO TALK OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
THERE IS ABOUT -- ALMOST $23 MILLION IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA
EXPECTED REVENUE.
AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS HOW WE PROJECT TO USE THAT
-- ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS.
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE WORKING ON COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
PLAN FOR 2023-2030.
A PLAN FOR THE RIVERWALK AND FRANKLIN STREET OVERLAY.
THE MERMAN MACY AND KID CENTER.
CONTINUE THE REFINEMENT PROJECT AND CONTINUE WORKING ON THE
UNION STATION REHABILITATION AND PUBLIC ART PROJECT.
THERE ARE FUNDS TO FUND AN ANNUAL PUBLIC ART.
FINANCIAL ALLY PREPARE FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE RENOVATION.
THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS AND UPGRADES TO LIGHTING AND TO THE
BRIDGE ON -- FOR HARBOR EYE LAND BOULEVARD.
PLAN THE GAS LIKES REDEVELOPMENT.
THE RIVERWALK BRIDGE CONNECTION AND PLAN SELF-FUNDING WORK
FORCE HOUSING PROGRAMS.
AND BEGIN CONTRACTUALLY WITH THE STRAZ AND CONVENTION CENTER
FUNDING.
NEXT WE HAVE THE CHANNEL DES STRICT.
THE CHANNEL DISTRICT HAS $10.2 MILLION.
THEIR FUNDING FINISHED THE PURCHASE FOR THE GREEN SPACE.
YOU PURCHASE THERV LOT GREEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE AS PART OF
THE BUDGET OBJECTIVES FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
FINISH DEVELOPING THE AQUARIUM'S PARKING LOT.
FINISH THE CUMBERLAND IMPROVEMENTS AND PARKING THAT IS A GMP
CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE.
CONTINUE THE URBAN CRA PROJECT.
WASHINGTON PARK RENOVATIONS.
WE WILL START THAT.
AND ANNUAL FUNDING OF PUBLIC ART IN THIS AREA.
ENHANCED LANDSCAPING TO THE PUBLIC REALM.
CONTINUE THE GREEN AND OPEN SPACE DEVELOPMENT.
AND CHANNEL DISTRICT MAIN STREET PROGRAM.
AND SELF-FUNDING WORK FORCE HOUSING PROGRAM.
SO THE TAMPA HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT CRA FOUGHT LESS FOR THE
FUNDING $1.8 MILLION.
WAY FINDING PROJECT IS A MULTIDISTRICT PROJECT AND WE WILL
CONTINUE WORKING ON THAT.
PALM AVENUE PUBLIC ART PROJECT.
TRY TO WRAP THAT UP.
AND A PLAN BASED ON COMPREHENSIVE GRANT PROGRAMS.
BEGIN A PUBLIC ART PUBLICATION.
BEGINNING SELF-FUNDING FOR WORK FORCE HOUSING PROGRAMS.
PLANNED WATER WOR K CROSSWALK IS PART OF THIS PLAN OR BUDGET
CYCLE.
THE CENTRAL PARK CRA.
AND BEFORE $250,000.
AND CENTRAL PARK, THAT CROSS BOUNDARY.
CRA ANNUALLY FUNDING PUBLIC ART AND WORKING ON WORK FORCE
HOUSING PROGRAMS.
PURCHASE AND SECURE PROPERTIES.
THE JOHNSON HOUSING AUTHORITY ON SCOTT STREET.
YOU HEARD ABOUT THAT.
WE WILL MOVE INTO IT THE YBOR CITY'S CRA.
IN YBOR, YOU HAVE 3.2 MILLION IN THE YBOR SEVENTH AVENUE
BRICK COST FEASIBLE STUDY.
SOMETHING PROGRAMMED IN THE BUDGET.
ADVANCE COMMUNITY PRIORITIES FROM THE YBOR VISION 2020 PLAN.
A FIVE-YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
INITIATIVES.
AND 7TH ANNUAL LIGHT SCAPE AND ENHANCEMENT PROJECT IS PART
OF THIS PROJECT.
WE HAVE MORE THAN ONE YBOR CRA.
DISTRICT TWO, ENCOURAGE INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND THE
REHABILITATION OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES IN YBOR NEIGHBORHOODS.
CONTINUE TO FUND KEY DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES TO STIMULATE
PRIVATE INVESTMENT AND TO SERVE RESIDENTS NEEDS AND BOLSTER
COMMUNITY AMENITIES AND TO COMPLETE THE EAST 7th AVENUE
PROJECTS FOR AN EASTERN GATEWAY INTO YBOR CITY.
THAT IS PROJECTED IN THE $1.4 MILLION IN THE SECOND DISTRICT
OF YBOR.
EAST TAMPA CRA, OUR LARGEST DISTRICT.
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
OPTIONS.
GRANT FUNDED PROGRAMS FOR HOMEOWNERS AND SMALL BUSINESSES IN
EAST TAMPA.
WE CONTINUE BEAUTIFICATION ALONG BOUNDARIES.
AND FISCAL YEAR 23, WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING THE -- TRYING TO SEE
IF WE CAN GET A GRANT ARRIVED TO CONTINUE TO DO BILLS
ASSISTANCE GRANTS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING GRANTS, ART WAY
PROJECTS, GATEWAY PROJECTS AND INVESTMENT IN YOUTH
PROGRAMMING.
SOMETHING WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT -- SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT
SEVERAL TIMES.
EAST TAMPA'S PROJECTED BUDGET IS $8.9 MILLION.
NEXT WE HAVE THE DREW PARK CRA.
KEY PROJECTS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR '23 FOR DREW PARK IS TO
MOVE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CRA-OWNED LOTS FOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
CONTINUE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT
BUSINESSES, JOB CREATION AND IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF DREW
PARK THROUGH FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS.
DESIGN OF TWO IMPROVEMENTS OF TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD AND A NEW
NEIGHBORHOOD PARK ALONG HUBERT AVENUE.
INITIATE STREETSCAPE AESTHETICS ALONG LOIS AND GRADY AVENUE
INCLUDING THE ROUNDABOUT.
AND ALSO INITIATE MOBILITY, SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY AND SAFETY
IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE DREW PARK CRA BOUNDARY.
AND THAT IS WITHIN OUR $2.3 MILLION PROJECTED FOR FISCAL
YEAR '23.
THE WEST TAMPA CRA SORRY.
THE WEST TAMPA CRA DISTRICT.
THE KEY DEVELOPMENT OBJECTIVES IS THAT THE CAC WANTS TO
SUPPORT HOUSING, REHABILITATION, INFRASTRUCTURE AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AND BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT GRANTS.
THOSE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT GRANTS ARE FOR THE PHYSICAL
APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDINGS.
SUPPORT THE WEST TAMPA FACADE, HAVE A LITTLE LA SHELL
RESTAURANTS AND FOOD SERVICES.
UPDATE THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY CODE REVISIONS.
REDEVELOPMENT SALCINES.
SALCINES AND RAY PARK WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION
DEPARTMENT.
THE WEST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP STUDY AND CITY AND POND AND
COMPANY.
SUPPORT A YEAR-ROUND MAIN STREET AREA CLEAN TEAM AND AN
ALLEY IMPROVEMENT PILOT PROGRAM PROJECTED IN THE $6.6
MILLION FOR THE WEST TAMPA CAC BUDGET.
THE CRA BOARD APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET BOOK AND THE SERVICE
LEVEL AGREEMENT COULD BE DONE ON SEPTEMBER 8.
I NEED TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SERVICE LEVEL
AGREEMENT BASED ON THE HIRING OF A DIRECTOR.
AND SO THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE AT THAT BUDGET MEETING
AND SOME THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING CONCURRENTLY.
NONETHELESS, WE WOULD LIKE THE CRA BOARD APPROVE OR GIVE US
SOME DIRECTION FROM THIS MEETING SO YOUR BUDGET CAN BE
APPROVED AT NEXT MEETING.
09:34:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:34:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
PRESENTATION.
I KNOW WE, ON TUESDAY, TOUCHED ON A COUPLE OF PROJECTS,
AFFORDABLE HOUSING BEING THE BIGGEST AND MOST CRUCIAL.
OF COURSE WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND MAKE DECISIONS AND
DIRECTIONS TODAY HOW MUCH TO ALLOCATE TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I KNOW EAST TAMPA IS THE BIGGEST CRA.
AND MAY BE THE MOST EFFECTED IN REGARDS TO -- THE NECESSITY
IS EVERYWHERE, BUT YOU DID SHOW NUMBERS OF AN 8.9 MILLION
BUDGET FOR EAST TAMPA.
MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS AVAILABLE THERE AND IN OTHER CRAs
THAT WE CAN -- AVAILABLE FUND THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE TO
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THAT IS ONE PART.
AND I KNOW IT WILL BE A BIGGER DISCUSSION.
SECOND -- I HAD TO GET MY GLASSES BECAUSE I COULDN'T SEE.
WITH REGARDS TO DOWNTOWN, YOU MENTION THE STRAZ, BUT DID YOU
MENTION THE MUSEUM OF ART?
09:35:55AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I DON'T KNOW IF I MENTIONED THE MUSEUM.
I DON'T THINK IT IS PROGRAMMED FOR FISCAL YEAR '23.
09:36:00AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
ALLOCATION FOR THE MUSEUM OF ART.
ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL REQUEST THAT WE DO
SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS PROVIDED FOR THE STRAZ.
09:36:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BUT IT WON'T BE TODAY?
WON'T BE DISCUSSED TODAY?
09:36:13AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
NO.
09:36:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL LEAVE THAT.
WE WILL FOCUS ON THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE TALKED OF THE $36 MILLION, $37 MILLION TOTAL AND WITH THE
MUCH GENERAL FUND AND CRA BUDGET SEPARATE.
WHAT CAN WE DO?
09:36:28AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
SURE.
ONE OF THE THINGS -- I MENTIONED IT PROBABLY IN THE PREVIOUS
WORKSHOP.
YOU HAVE $10.6 MILLION OF NEW AD VALOREM REVENUE THAT COULD
BE ALLOCATED TOWARD HOUSING IF YOU WANTED IT TO.
DREW PARK WEST AND EAST TAMPA ARE THE THREE CRA DISTRICTS
THAT ALLOCATED 80% OF THE NEW REVENUE TO HOUSING PROGRAMS.
I WOULD SAY -- I WOULD CONTEND THAT EAST TAMPA IS PROBABLY
THE ONE THAT HAS THE MOST PROGRAMMING TOWARD HOUSING
ALREADY.
IF YOU -- IF YOU DESIRE OF THE BOARD IS TO ALLOCATE THE
$10.6 MILLION ACROSS ALL CRAs.
I WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND BREAK DOWN EACH ALLOCATION
FOR EACH DISTRICT.
IF YOUR DIRECTION IS FOR US TO USE THE $10.6 MILLION TOWARD
HOUSING PROGRAMS, WE WILL GO BACK AND TAKE THAT ALLOCATION
AND PUT IT IN A BUCKET FOR HOUSING INITIATIVES.
ANY NEW PROGRAMMING OR HOWEVER WE ARE GOING TO SPEND THAT
MONEY WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD ANYWAY, BUT IF YOU JUST
ALLOCATED FOR HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS, WE CAN
DO THAT NOW.
AND THAT WILL HELP YOU GET TO THE BUDGET BUDGET APPROVAL
TIMELINE.
09:37:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL STOP HERE.
JUST LIKE WE TRIED TO MANEUVER COVID.
IT WAS A CRISIS SCENARIO AND WE TOOK IT ONE STEP AT A TIME.
HERE THIS CRISIS IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
ARE WE GOING TO SOLVE IT?
IS THERE A PERFECT ANSWER, NO.
BUT I THINK WE WILL DO WHAT WE CAN AT THE MAXIMUM LEVEL AS
YOU ALREADY EXPLAINED AS WE MANEUVER IN CRISIS UNTIL THINGS
GET BETTER.
THINGS SHOULD BE BETTER AND AS INFLATION ADJUSTS AND THE
COST OF GOODS AND EVERYTHING REREGULATES ITSELF.
ARE WE GOING TO SOLVE IT?
DID WE DECLARE A HOUSING STATE OF EMERGENCY?
NO.
BUT WE ARE USING THE TOOLS THAT WE CAN.
AND TAKE IT ONE DAY AT A TIME AND TODAY IS THE DAY TO OFFER
DIRECTION.
YOU SAID 80%.
WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER CRAs AND REWORK THE NUMBERS
BUT TAKE IT TO THE MAXIMUM LEVEL OF INVESTMENT WE CAN PUT IN
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
09:38:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:38:41AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
09:38:48AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU MAY KNOW A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THIS
BOARD PASSED A RESOLUTION TO REQUEST THAT STAFF SPEND 30% OF
CRA MONEY ACROSS THE BOARD.
09:39:00AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I WAS UNAWARE THAT THERE WAS A RESOLUTION.
09:39:05AM >>BILL CARLSON:
AND YOUR PREDECESSOR DIDN'T DO THAT.
THAT WOULD SOLVE ONLY PART OF THE PROBLEM.
NO WAY TO 50,000 UNITS IN FOUR YEARS AND MAKE UP FOR ALL THE
ONES TORN DOWN IN THE LAST TEN YEARS.
I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
YOU KNOW CRAs BY LAW ARE MEANT TO SOLVE SLUM AND BLIGHT.
NO SLUM OR BLIGHT IN DOWNTOWN OR CHANNEL DISTRICT NOW.
I CAN TELL THAT YOU PEOPLE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY ARE SI
DIEING THE DOWNTOWN AND CHANNEL DISTRICT'S CRAs.
THEY FEEL IT IS NOT OKAY THAT DOWNTOWN AND CHANNELSIDE GET
MORE THAN THEY GET.
CRAs THEY SAY ARE FOR LAZY POLICY PEOPLE AND WILL BE
ALLOCATED MONEY IN EAST COMPANY AND NOT FORCED TO DO IT
THROUGH THE CRA.
AND NOT FAIR TO THINK THAT THE CRA IN EAST TAMPA WILL SOLVE
EVERYTHING.
CRAS GENERATE MONEY BASED ON REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENTS, AND
IT ENCOURAGES GENTRIFICATION.
THEY USED CRA TO GET MORE GENTRIFICATION AND USED TO
SUBSIDIZE GENTRIFICATION.
EXCEPT FOR DOWNTOWN AND THE CHANNEL DISTRICTS.
THAT MAKES SENSE.
SUCCESS WHERE THEY HAVE EXCEEDED.
MOST OF THE MONEY COME FROM DOWNTOWN I THINK -- AND I CAN
MAKE A MOTION NOW OR LATER, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO PUT A
CAP ON THE DOWNTOWN AND CHANNEL DISTRICT'S CRAs BEFORE THE
REGULAR CONCLUSION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SLUM AND BLIGHT
ANYMORE.
IF SOMEONE SUED AND SAID YOU CAN'T KEEP THESE, NOT FAIR FOR
THE REST OF TAMPA TO SUBSIDIZE BECAUSE NO SLUM AND BLIGHT,
WE WOULD PROBABLY LOSE THAT LAWSUIT.
WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS -- FOLKS IN CHANNEL DISTRICT HAVE ASKED
THAT WE LEAVE A LITTLE IN, 10% TO 20% UNTIL THE END OF THE
TERM.
I SUGGEST WE TAKE 80 OR 90% OF THE MONEY IN DOWNTOWN
DISTRICT AND MOVE IT BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND AND REQUEST
THAT CITY COUNCIL SET UP A FUND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT
WOULD RECEIVE THAT MONEY.
AND, OF COURSE, THE MAYOR WOULD HAVE TO COOPERATE WITH IT.
BUT WE CAN'T -- THIS BOARD CANNOT CONTROL WHERE THE MONEY
GOES AND CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR CAN.
SO IF WE COMMIT ON THE OTHER SIDE SETTING UP THAT MONEY AND
AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND, WE CAN MOVE THAT MONEY ANYWHERE IN
THE CITY THAT WE NEED TO.
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE CONCENTRATIONS OF POVERTY AND ONLY HAVE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ONE AREA.
AND WILL GIVE US A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY TO BUILD AFFORDABLE
HOUSE WHERE WE CAN INSTEAD OF PAYING FOR THE HIGHEST
PROPERTY PRICES TO PUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO GET TWO OR
THREE TIMES MORE UNITS TO PUT THE MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I WON'T MAKE A MOTION UNLESS SOMEBODY WANTS ME TO BUT WE
SHOULD SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THAT.
NO WAY TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR 50,000 UNITS.
THAT $5 MILLION TO $10 MILLION CAN GO TO A LOT BETTER USE
THAN DOWNTOWN.
THANK YOU.
09:42:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:42:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU FOR -- FIRST OF ALL, ONE THING THAT YOU HAVE DONE
THAT VERY FEW DO.
WHEN YOU HAND US A ITEM, A PAGE NUMBER, SO WE CAN FIND IT
REAL EASY.
MOST OF THE TIME IT DOES NOT HAVE A PAGE NUMBER AND YOU HAVE
TO KEEP TURNING PAGES WHEN YOU FIND IT.
WHEN YOU SEE IT ON THE BOARD, AND WHAT PAGE, IT IS EASIER
FOR US TO FOLLOW.
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
LANDSCAPING.
I KNOW WE NEED LANDSCAPING.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE LANDSCAPING BECOMES -- NOT ONLY
THE COST OF IT BUT MAINTENANCE, BECAUSE WE GOT TO GET
FLORIDA-FRIENDLY TPD OF LANDSCAPING TO MAINTAIN THEM AT A
MUCH LESSER COST TO PROMOTE MORE LANDSCAPING.
ONLY A SUGGESTION.
AND ON PAGE 9, THERE IS A DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT CRA FOR
140,000 FOR THE FERRY.
THE FERRY DOES LITTLE TO TAKE CARS OFF THE BRIDGE.
WHAT IT DOES DO AN EASY $10 TO GO TO ST. PETE AND $10 TO
RETURN AND TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR IT.
NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
BUT THAT IS JUST ME.
AND THE NEXT THING IS ON PAGE 40, I NOTICED SOMETHING IN
THAT CRA THAT I DIDN'T NOTICE AND THE REST OF THE OTHERS AND
CHECKING THEM BY PAGE NUMBERS AND MISSED ONE OR TWO OF THE
CRAs, BUT PAGE 40 UNDER THE INVESTMENT -- DEVELOPMENT
REDEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENT
GRANTS FOR $300,000.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
09:43:44AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
SO THOSE ARE YOUR OWNER-OCCUPIED -- NOT
NECESSARILY OWNER, BUT SEPARATE -- IS IT --
WEST TAMPA -- YEAH, FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF RESIDENTIAL
STRUCTURES FOR TENANT OR OWNER-OCCUPIED RESIDENTIAL.
09:44:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IS THAT A TOTAL OR JUST ONE?
09:44:07AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THAT IS THE TOTAL FOR THE PROGRAM.
09:44:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I APOLOGIZE, BUT I READ THAT $300,000 IN
BUSINESS ENHANCEMENT AND 100,000 FOR BUSINESS FACADE, 120 --
I WANT TO MAKE SURE NOT JUST ONE PARTY BUT MANY.
09:44:23AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
FUNDING FOR THE WHOLE PROGRAM.
09:44:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I APOLOGIZE, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS TRAVIS.
09:44:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:44:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
DOWNTOWN -- MAKE SURE I AM READING THIS
RIGHT.
09:44:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO YOU WANT THIS ON THE SCREEN?
09:44:38AM >>.
09:44:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, ON THE SCREEN.
TOTAL DOLLARS THAT DOWNTOWN HAS WITH THE CRA.
TOTAL DOLLARS.
09:44:49AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
22.9 -- CAN YOU PULL UP THE SLIDE SHOW FOR
ME, PLEASE.
09:44:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
OUT OF THE 22.9 YOU SAY THEY HAVE IN THE
BANK, ALL OF THE PROGRAMS ADDING UP TO 22.9.
09:45:13AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
22.9 IS WHAT THEY HAVE IN REVENUE AND ZERO
SUM BUDGET.
WHATEVER REVENUE WE GOT IN IS WHAT WE ARE ALLOCATING FOR THE
PROGRAM.
09:45:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MY CONCERN WHEN I LOOK AT CHANNEL AND
DOWNTOWN IS THE NUMBER FOR HOUSING.
THAT NEEDS TO BE INCREASED, PERIOD.
MR. CARLSON -- WE MADE THAT RESOLUTION A LONG TIME AGO IN
REFERENCE WITH THAT BEING DONE AS FAR AS THE CRAs WITH THE
HIGH NUMBERS.
AND HE'S RIGHT ON THAT POINT.
I MEAN HOUSING WAS A KEY POINT AND THEY HAD THAT TYPE OF
MONEY -- MORE THAN THOSE CRAs GOING INTO HOUSING.
09:45:55AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO ASKED HOW MUCH
INCREMENT OF EACH DISTRICT AND YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT
DOWNTOWN.
DOWNTOWN HAS THE CORE AND NONCORE.
THEY HAVE ABOUT $5 MILLION IN NEW INCREMENT.
09:46:07AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HOW MANY MILLION?
09:46:10AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
FIVE?
FIVE.
RIGHT.
FOUR IN THE NONCORE AND 907,000 IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE.
SO I -- IF THE GENERAL DIRECTION IS, SAY, YOU WANT US TOLE
KATE -- I KNOW YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE BREAKDOWN AND NOT
SEWING HOUSING.
IF YOU WANT TO ALLOCATE THE NEW REVENUE TO SOME KINDS OF
HOUSING PROGRAMS, WE DON'T NEED TO SOLVE WHAT THAT IS RIGHT
NOW.
TAKE THAT BACK AND PUT IT IN THE HOUSING INITIATIVE BUCKETS
COUNCILMAN JUST TO YOUR POINT.
WE WILL COME BACK AND TELL YOU HOW WE WILL WORK WITH
DEVELOPERS AND TOWARD HOUSING ON THIS.
WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS TALKING ABOUT, WE WOULD HAVE TO
-- I WILL DEFER TO MORRIS, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING
WITH THE OVERALL PLAN AND SUNSETTING --
09:46:58AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT IS DOWN THE ROAD.
A LOT TO DO.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN A SITUATION --
09:47:03AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
RIGHT NOW TO YOUR POINT, WE CAN REALLOCATE
THE FUNDS TRY TO REALLOCATE.
09:47:14AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
TUESDAY, WE TALKED OF ANOTHER TEAM.
IMPORTANT WITH THESE DOLLARS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT TEAM
INCORPORATED IN THAT IF THAT IS THE CASE TO MOVE FAST.
LEAK I TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER DAY.
WE HAVE A LOT OF VACANT UNITS -- WE HAVE A CRISIS, BUT WE
HAVE VACANT UNITS WHICH MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
TALK OF ADDING MONEY TO HOUSING.
THAT IS CRUCIAL.
WE HAVE SOME SET PROGRAMS, BUT WITH THE MONEY COMING IN TAKE
THE BULK OF THAT AND THROW IT INTO HOUSING.
09:47:50AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
JUST TO -- BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DO IT IN
A VACUUM.
WE HAVE PREVIOUS AGREEMENTS.
PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES THAT YOU APPROVED THROUGHOUT THE
YEAR, RIGHT.
SO WE KNOW ROUGHLY WHERE THE ALLOCATION NEED TO BE, BUT
WHATEVER IS NOT SPENT -- ALLOCATIONS NEED TO BE, BUT
WHATEVER IS NOT SPENT IN THE FISCAL YEAR.
I WILL COME BACK TO YOU IN NOVEMBER WITH REALLOCATION WHAT
WAS NOT SPENT IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR AND REALLOCATE
THOSE MONIES TO HOUSING.
WE NEED TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY WHERE WE ARE SPENDING
THE MONEY, WHAT COMMITMENTS WE HAVE OUT THERE.
THE MUSEUM OF ART CAME UP.
THE TAMPA THEATRE IS SOMETHING THAT IS HANGING OUT THERE AS
WELL.
SO ONCE WE TAKE ALL OF THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION, I
UNDERSTAND IF THE INTENT AND DIRECTION TO THE BOARD TODAY IS
TO TAKE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO DEDICATE TOWARD HOUSING.
I WILL TAKE THAT CHARGE AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE
HOUSING BUCKETS IN EACH ONE OF THE DISTRICTS AND SHOW WE
WILL ALLOCATE THAT MONEY.
THAT MAY INCLUDE -- I SAID THIS TO YOU AT THE WORKSHOP
BEFORE.
WE ARE AT CAPACITY AND IF WE ADD ADDITIONAL MONEY TOWARD
HOUSING PROGRAMS, I NEED ADDITIONAL STAFF TO HELP ME --
ADMINISTER THE HOUSING PROGRAMS.
SO THAT WILL BE SHARED -- THAT WOULD NOT BE AT A COST OF ONE
CRA.
IT WILL BE SHARED AMONG THE DISTRICTS.
09:49:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
PREVIOUS YEARS I WENT ALONG WITH THAT
BECAUSE IT WAS CRA DOLLARS AND KIND OF A SMALL BENEFIT, BUT
LOOKING AT THIS NOW, I MEAN, WE COULD USE ANY DIME WE CAN
GET.
AND I KNOW THE FERRY IS -- MR. MASSEY --
09:49:38AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I THINK THE TIMING FOR MAKING A DECISION ON
THE FUNDING OF THE FERRY.
THAT IS WHY THE FERRY DISCUSSION WAS BROUGHT TO YOU IN
APRIL, BECAUSE THE TIMING FOR MAKE THAT DECISION WAS IN THAT
TIME FRAME.
09:49:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WILL YIELD BACK.
09:49:54AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
TO YOUR POINT IN MOVING FORWARD -- IF YOUR
GENERAL DIRECTION IS TO DO LESS CONTRIBUTIONS TO THAT.
WHENEVER THAT AGREEMENT COMES TO PLACE, WE CAN MAKE THAT
KNOWN AND START TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS MOVING FORWARD.
09:50:07AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WOULD THINK NOW GOING FORWARD -- I THINK
GOING FORWARD WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT NOW WITH THE HOUSING
SITUATION.
09:50:14AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
JUST TO REMIND YOU WE WILL TESTIFY TO THE
FERRY, THE WAY THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS STRUCTURED A
PERIOD OF TIME -- I BELIEVE JUNE 1 THAT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT
CAN DECIDE THAT THEY DO NOT WANT TO FURTHER FUND THAT
PROGRAM.
AND IN APRIL, WE HAD THE PRESENTATION COME BEFORE YOU ALL.
AND THAT WAS THE TEAM FOR YOU ALL REALLY TO DECIDE WHETHER
TO CONTINUE FUNDING THE FERRY OUT OF CRA DOLLARS.
THAT WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE A STANDIN
MOTION TO FOR THEM TO PRESENT EVERY YEAR IN APRIL TO
DETERMINE AT THAT POINT IN TIME IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
YOU FEEL THAT MERITS THE SUPPORT OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA TIF
DOLLARS.
AND THAT'S WHERE THAT MONEY IS COME FROM.
09:50:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
UNDERSTOOD.
09:51:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:51:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MISS TRAVIS.
CAN YOU PULL UP PAGE 5 AGAIN.
09:51:08AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
SURE.
09:51:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SHOWS THE OUTLINE OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
09:51:11AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
PAGE 5?
09:51:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MA'AM.
6.
SORRY, 6, THE WHOLE SHADED AREA -- JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, IS
THAT CONSIDERED DOWNTOWN CRA?
09:51:26AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YES, YOU HAVE TWO -- TWO DISTRICTS ACHED
YOU HAVE THE CORE AND THE NONCORE.
BOTH SHADED GREEN AREAS IS THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
09:51:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU KNOW THERE IS -- I TEND NOT TO GIVE
EVIDENCE, BUT NORTH OF CASS STREET, THERE IS A LOT OF VACANT
LAND DOWN HERE.
AS THIS BODY DID WITH THE OLD ARMY-NAVY STORE ON TAMPA
STREET THAT WAS BOUGHT SPECIFICALLY FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING
PLUS ANOTHER $5 MILLION PUT IN FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THE
AREA.
MY OPINION, THAT AREA NORTH ARE PRIME FOR AFFORDABLE
WORKFORCE HOUSE WITH CRA DOLLARS.
WE ARE LOOKING AT A PUBLIC-PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY
FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING AND CAN OUR DOLLARS BE USED TO EITHER
PURCHASE LAND AND OR DEVELOP IT FOR AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE.
THE CRA DOLLARS ARE GOING FOR SLUM AND BLIGHT IN THE
DOWNTOWN AREA.
09:52:25AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YES, SIR.
09:52:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
NUMBER TWO, ALTHOUGH IT IS ONE OF THE NEWEST CRAs, SO MUCH
INVESTMENT GOING INTO THAT AREA.
WHY IS THERE JUST LITTLE IN THE FUND?
THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.
SO MUCH INVESTMENT GOING ON DOWN THERE.
IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT IT IS NOT -- IT IS NOT UP -- IT IS
NOT UP TO PAR.
IS IT BECAUSE OF RECENT OPT OUTS?
09:53:00AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I WOULD HE CAN HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ROLL
FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER.
I CAN'T ANSWER THAT FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
I WILL LOOK AT THE ROLL.
09:53:10AM >> OTHER THING IN RELATION TO TAMPA HEIGHTS, WE HAVE AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE CDD AND THE DEVELOPER OF TAMPA HEIGHT
WHERE 90% OF THE TIF GOES FOR IMPROVEMENT.
THE WHOLE AREA, STREET, GRID STRUCTURE, STORMWATER SEWERS,
THE ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS REDONE BY THE CDD.
09:53:34AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THAT IS WHERE WHY YOU ARE MONEY IS.
09:53:37AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
AN OBLIGATION BETWEEN THIS BODY AND THE CDD
THAT HAS A 30-YEAR TERM.
09:53:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGAIN, I DON'T LIKE TO GIVE EVIDENCE.
I AM GLAD SOMEONE ELSE DID.
09:53:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MADAM CHAIR.
09:53:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN YOU.
09:53:52AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TO GO BACK TO A COUPLE OF COMMENTS MY
COLLEAGUE SAID TO -- ARE WE SUPPOSED TO CALL OURSELVES
COUNCILMEMBERS OR BOARD MEMBERS HERE?
09:54:02AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
TECHNICALLY BOARD MEMBERS.
09:54:04AM >>BILL CARLSON:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES TALKED ABOUT THE FERRY
AND BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
WE SHOULDN'T VOTE ON IT TODAY, BUT YOU ALL KNOW I SUPPORT
THAT.
I SUPPORT THE FERRY.
BUT IF YOU ALL THINK WE COULD CUT THE FUNDING, I THINK IT
WOULD BE RESPECTFUL TO GIVE THEM AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE.
GIVE THEM A TIME IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE
TO HAVE THEM COME BACK.
I THINK THEY WILL PRESENT IT IS A MARKETING TOOL FOR
DOWNTOWN THAT BRINGS PASSENGERS AND BUSINESS INTO DOWNTOWN,
BUT AT THE END OF THAT PRESENTATION, IF YOU THINK IT IS NOT
CONVINCING AND WE SHOULDN'T DO IT, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD
INDICATE EARLY MONTHS IN ADVANCE WE ARE NOT GOING TO REFUND
IT SO THEY CAN TRY TO NEGOTIATE SOMETHING ELSE.
YOU SAW THE PROBLEM WITH PINELLAS WHERE THEY ALMOST DIDN'T
GET THEIR FUNDING AND THE TIMELINE ON DECISION IS FAR OUT
AND GOOD IF WE DID IT EARLY.
SECOND THING TO BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA'S POINT OF SUSTAINABLE
LANDSCAPING.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE EVER DONE THIS BEFORE, BUT I WOULD
ENCOURAGE TO YOU MAKE A MOTION TO REQUIRE THAT CRA MONEY
ONLY BE SPENT ON FLORIDA OR SUSTAINABLE LANDSCAPING.
SEEMS LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME.
IF WE ARE GOING TO SPEND MONEY THAT THE REST OF THE CITY IS
SUBSIDIZING.
LET'S SPEND IT ON SOMETHING WORTHWHILE AND THE REST OF THE
CITY WILL SUPPORT THAT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.
09:55:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
09:55:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:55:31AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MISS TRAVIS, I SAID THIS FOR A LONG TIME,
IN REFERENCE TO WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THE DEFINITION OF IT.
I MADE SOME DEFINITIONS.
IT CAME BACK.
ESSENTIAL WORKER.
CAME BACK ESSENTIAL WORKER.
COULD BE ANYBODY.
AND OUR WORKFORCE ARE PEOPLE WHO WORK AT McDONALD'S, BURGER
KING.
OUR WORKFORCE IS NOT YOUR FIREMEN, POLICE, MUCH IF NURSE.
BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT THEY MAKE.
.USE YOU THAT WORD "WORK FORCE" ALL THE TIME.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE THAT IN ANY OF OUR HOUSING STUFF
BECAUSE TO ME, IT SOUNDS DISCRIMINATORY.
WORK FORCE.
09:56:13AM >> I SAY ATTAINABLE HOUSING.
ATTAINABLE IS -- WHAT IS ATTAINABLE TO ME IS DIFFERENT THAN
ATTAINABLE TO YOU.
I GOTCHA.
09:56:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WORK FORCE, A DIFFERENT CLASS OF PEOPLE.
I DON'T LIKE THAT.
I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.
WE ARE GOING TO PUT MONEY INTO HOUSING EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN A HOUSE, AN APARTMENT, WHATEVER WE
ARE DOING.
TO ME WHEN WE SAY THAT WORD, YOU THINK YOU ARE LOOKING AT A
CERTAIN CLASS OF PEOPLE AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE LEFT BEHIND
TO ME, IT IS WHAT I CALL THAT GAP.
THAT GAP.
I AM RIGHT HERE AND BEING CLASSIFIED HERE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DIFFERENT WORD USED.
JUST MY OPINION.
AND MR. CITRO WAS RIGHT.
WHEN YOU GO NORTH, A LOT OF PROPERTY.
I TALKED TO MISS BURTON ABOUT THAT TOO.
I TALKED TO THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
WE NEED TO START GOING THAT WAY AND BUILDING AND WHAT WE CAN
DO AS FAR AS HOUSING -- AND YOU SEPARATE THE TWO BECAUSE
WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING OF HOUSING, ENTERTAINMENT.
YOU HAVE ALL THIS PROPERTY UP HERE AND FIGURE OUT A PLAN TO
SEPARATE IT, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE CERTAIN COMPLAINTS AND
BUILD UPON WHATEVER.
I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THE WORKFORCE -- THE WORD "WORK FORCE"
SHOULDN'T BE THERE.
A DIFFERENT WORD.
ATTAINABLE.
I CAN HE CAN DEAL WITH THAT.
PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO ATTAIN WHAT THEY NEED.
THAT ALL I AM SAYING.
I DON'T LIKE THE WORD "WORK FORCE."
09:57:46AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I UNDERSTAND 100%.
09:57:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
09:57:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MADAM CHAIR.
TO TOUCH ON THE CROSS BAY FERRIES.
THERE IS THE SOUTH BAY FERRY WHICH I AM IN SUPPORT MOVING
MILITARY PERSONNEL FROM SOUTH SHORE TO THE AIR FORCE BASE.
I WANT TO SEPARATE THOSE TWO THINGS UP.
09:58:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
THEN I GET A TURN.
09:58:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU GET THE LAST WORD.
09:58:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS DIFFICULT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW DO YOU IT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO JUMP IN.
ANYWAY, I WILL AGREE WITH ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES.
WE ABSOLUTELY -- THE THING THAT ISN'T EASY TO SEE IN THIS
BUDGET IS EXACTLY WHERE THE HOUSING MONEY IS GOING AND I
WILL 100% SUPPORT THE 30% FROM THE DIFFERENT CRAs GOING INTO
HOUSING.
BUT PARTICULARLY THE DESIRE TO LOOK VERY CLOSELY AT THE
DOWNTOWN AND CHANNEL CRAs.
WHAT MONEY IS AVAILABLE.
THE USE OF THE MONEY TO HIRE STAFF TO -- TO HELP WITH THE --
TO FOCUS ON THE CRA BUT WORK WITHIN THE HOUSING.
SO I -- I APPRECIATE THIS BUDGET.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU CAN BRING TO US.
09:59:06AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
SURE.
SO WE ARE -- WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CAC MEETINGS THAT WILL COME
UP IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
DOWNTOWN, CHANNELSIDE AND WEST TAMPA ARE HAPPENING WITHIN
THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
WE DEFINITELY WANT TO WORK WITH THE CACS.
WE UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTIVE.
IF THERE IS A MOTION, WE WILL TAKE THAT BACK TO THE CACS.
WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUDGET FOR WHEN YOU
APPROVE IT IN SEPTEMBER WHEN YOU START THE PUBLIC HEARINGS
IN SEPTEMBER THAT IT IS ADJUSTED THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE.
WHAT I WILL ASK IS THAT I HAVE ALSO COME BACK TO YOU IN
NOVEMBER THAT WHEN WE CLOSE OUT THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE
CAN SHOW YOU WHAT HAVEN'T BEEN USED AND ALSO TAKE THAT
OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT HOW WE WANT TO REALLOCATE MONEY AND
HOW TO REALLOCATE TO HOUSING AS WELL AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO
THAT WITH YOU FOR SEPTEMBER AND COME BACK WITH THE CLOSE --
ONCE WE CLOSE OUT THE BOOK FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR IF
THAT IS OKAY WITH YOU.
10:00:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE.
ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?
10:00:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO HIS TRAVIS TO
REQUEST --
10:00:18AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THE MOTION FOR ME TO PRESENT THE BUDGET TO
YOU IN SEPTEMBER AT YOUR PUBLIC HEARING WITH AS MUCH HOUSING
AS POSSIBLE AND COME BACK WITH REALLOCATIONS IN THE NOVEMBER
MEETING WITH ANY FUN IS USED OR UNAPPROPRIATED SURPLUS FOR
HOUSING PROGRAMS IN NOVEMBER.
10:00:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU FOR ARTICULATING MY POINT SO WELL.
10:00:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO AND BOARD
MEMBER MANISCALCO SECONDED.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
10:00:48AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:00:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
10:00:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:00:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
10:01:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:01:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:01:06AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT.
10:01:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:01:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WILL ASK -- I WON'T MAKE A MOTION BUT ASK
MISS TRAVIS.
WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH THE BUDGET WITH ALL THE NUMBERS WE
CAN SPEND ON HOUSING.
THE BIGGEST PART IS DOWNTOWN AND CHANNEL DISTRICT.
COULD YOU ALSO PLEASE, AS AN ASIDE, SHOW US HOW MUCH WE CAN
GET FOR OUR DOLLAR IF WE SPENT AN EQUIVALENT AMOUNTS OF
MONEY ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY.
IF IT TURNED OUT THAT THE LAND OVER BY ARMY, NAVY IS THE
SAME COST PER ACRE THAN SOMEBODY ELSE AND HAVE THE SAME
NUMBER OF UNITS, IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT THERE 10 TO 20%
HIGHER MIGHT MAKE SENSE.
ON THE OTHER EXTREME, TWO OR THREE TIMES MORE UNITS
SOMEWHERE ELSE, THAT WILL MAKE THE CASE THAT WE MOVE THE
MONEY BACK TO GENERAL FUND.
THANK YOU.
10:02:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEN BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
10:02:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WILL SPEAK WITH MISS TRAVIS LATER.
10:02:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST RECEIVED A MEMO FROM BOARD MEMBER
VIERA.
THERE IS A SERIOUS TRAFFIC ACCIDENT THAT HAS SHUT DOWN
PORTIONS OF THE INTERSTATE.
SO HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND TODAY.
HE IS REQUESTING TO CONTINUE ITEMS 3, 4 AND 9 UNTIL THE NEXT
CRA SESSION.
10:02:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CONTINUE.
10:02:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT WILL BE SEPTEMBER.
10:02:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE 3, 4 AND 9 TO THE SEPTEMBER CRA
MEETING.
10:02:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AM SORRY.
10:02:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:02:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T INTERFERE
WITH ANY --
10:02:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE MOTIONS WERE MADE.
10:02:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T INTERFERE
WITH EVERYTHING PERTINENT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TODAY,
TOMORROW.
10:02:56AM >> NO, WE ARE GOOD.
10:02:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:02:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ALL IN FAVOR OF CONTINUING THE ITEMS UNTIL
SEPTEMBER.
OKAY.
10:03:04AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
MADAM CHAIR, MAY I DO A COUPLE OF
HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS BEFORE YOU MOVE ON.
10:03:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ABSOLUTELY.
10:03:12AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
TO YOUR AGENDA.
BOARD MEMBERS, THE OCTOBER CRA BOARD MEETING IS SCHEDULED
THE SAME TIME AS OUR FLORIDA REDEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
CONFERENCE.
THAT IS A BIG CONFERENCE THAT IS USED FOR TRAINING.
A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF.
AND THEY ARE ALL GOING TO PARTICIPATE.
JEFF BURTON IS ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE FRA ASSOCIATION AND
WILL NOT BE HERE FOR THAT MEETING.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY TIME SENSITIVE ITEMS TO PRESENT TO YOU IN
OCTOBER.
CITY WORK WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO LOOK AT YOUR AGENDA,
YOUR EVENING AGENDA AND TRY TO RESCHEDULE IT.
AND YOUR AGENDAS ARE KIND OF PACKED.
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO CANCEL THE OCTOBER CRA
MEETING.
BECAUSE STAFF WILL BE AT CONFERENCE STARTING OCTOBER 12-14.
10:04:03AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
WE HAVE A PUBLISHED SCHEDULE OF CRA
MEETINGS.
WE HAVE TO NOTICE THAT ON BOTH THE CLERK'S WEB SITE IF THAT
IS THE DESIRE.
I THINK WILL PROVIDE PUBLISHED NOTICE THAT WE ARE CANCELLING
THE MEET GOING DOABLE FOR THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.
10:04:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBERS GUDES.
10:04:25AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I DON'T RECALL EVER GETTING ANY INFORMATION
ABOUT THAT.
DO WE HAVE -- DO WE HAVE INFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT THIS?
10:04:34AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
ABOUT THE FRA CONFERENCE.
THERE IS AND I WILL BE HOPE THAT SEND IT TO YOU.
10:04:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SEND IT TO ME.
10:04:43AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
LET ME KNOW.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, MAKE YOU ARE SURE THAT YOU ARE
REGISTERED AND YOUR ACCOMMODATIONS.
10:04:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:04:54AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK WE ARE AUTOMATICALLY MEMBERS.
BECAUSE I HAVE ATTENDED VIRTUAL CONFERENCES WITH THEM.
10:05:00AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YES.
WE HAVE A MEMBERSHIP AS A CITY BUT YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THE
CONFERENCE.
IF YOU WANT TO ATTEND THE CONFERENCE AND I WILL TELL YOU
BEING A REDEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONAL, ONE OF THE BEST
CONFERENCES IN THE STATE.
GIVES YOU AN IDEA HOW OTHER CITIES ARE HANDLING
REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, DIFFERENT FINANCING OPTIONS.
IT'S JUST -- A REALLY INFORMATIVE CONFERENCE.
10:05:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHERE IS IT.
10:05:26AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
DAYTONA BEACH THIS YEAR.
10:05:29AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WORLD FAMOUS BEACH.

10:05:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY.
I HAVE BEEN TO THIS CONFERENCE SEVERAL TIMES, AND IT IS A
FANTASTIC TIME.
A WEALTH OF INFORMATION.
10:05:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO WE HAVE ANY MOTION ABOUT THIS?
10:05:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SO MOVED.
10:05:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
10:05:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO AND
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:05:58AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
10:05:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:06:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:06:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
10:06:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:06:05AM >> VIERA IS ABSENT.
10:06:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:06:10AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH ABSENT -- VIERA ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:06:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
10:06:19AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM FOR YOU JUST AS AN
UPDATE.
AT THE LAST CRA BOARD MEETING, WE TOLD YOU WE PURCHASED FOR
YOUR CRA DIRECTOR POSITION.
WE HAVE PUBLISHED IT.
WE ADVERTISED THE DIRECTOR POSITION.
WE RECEIVED 30 RESPONSES AND ONE QUALIFIED APPLICANT OF THE
30 RESPONSES.
AND SO PROFESSIONALLY I HAVE TO -- YES.
I WILL HAVE TO RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT -- YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF
OPTIONS.
WE CAN CONTINUE TO ADVERTISE IT AND TRY TO MARKET IT A
LITTLE MORE HEAVILY.
WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ONE QUALIFIED APPLICANT FROM A
PROFESSIONAL DIDN'T, I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE OPTIONS.
THE ONLY THING THAT IS IMMINENT AT THIS TIME IS THE -- THAT
YOU HAVE APPROVED FOR ME TO BE THE INTERIM CRA DIRECTOR
UNTIL THE END OF SEPTEMBER AND I WANTED TO PUT IT -- I WILL
BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT JUST AS WE ARE
BACKING INTO TIME, WE TOLD YOU WE WOULD DO A PUBLIC MEET AND
GREET FOR YOU AND FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE CAC MEMBERS FOR
-- JUST TO MEET THE FINALISTS IN THAT PROJECT.
AS WE BACK INTO THAT, WE ARE RUNNING UP AGAINST THE
EXPIRATION OF MY INTERIM STATUS.
I AM NOT KICKING YOU TO THE CURB.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TIMING AND KNOW THAT YOU UNDERSTAND.
I PRIDE MYSELF OF DOING WHAT I SAY I AM GOING TO DO.
SO I WANTED TO PRESENT YOU WITH OPTIONS.
WE WILL BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE MARKETING AND PUSHING AND DOING
A BROADER OUTREACH AND PRESENT WITH YOU A FEW QUALIFIED
CANDIDATES.
10:08:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
10:08:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT MISS
TRAVIS STAYS DIRECTOR UNTIL IT IS TIME WE FIND A -- A NEW --
A NEW DIRECTOR.
10:08:13AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WILL RECOMMEND THAT WE ADD 30 DAYS BECAUSE
WE NEED TO HAVE HR TO FIND THIS POSITION.
I LIKE YOU AND I THINK YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB, BUT WE
NEED THIS AS A SEPARATE ENTITY AND WE NEED A SEPARATE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
THE OTHER THING I WILL SAY WHILE I HAVE THE FLOOR, OTHER
BOARDS LIKE THE AIRPORT, PORT, OTHERS, BOARD MEMBERS VERILY
INTERVIEWED THE PERSON.
LAST TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO DO THAT.
CAME UP SUDDENLY.
AT LEAST I WAS BLINDSIDED.
I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE, BUT WE NEED ONE ON ONE TIME TO
TALK TO THE FOLKS AND GIVE THEM A FAIR CHANCE.
NOT JUST HAVE THEM MEET IN A PUBLIC ROUND -- REMEMBER THE --
THE OF POLICE CHIEF DISCUSSION WAS LIKE THAT.
IN FACT ONE CANDIDATE WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND AND VERY
CONTROVERSIAL.
IT WOULD BE BETTER -- SINCE THE COMMUNITY IS WATCH THIS
SPEND THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO FIND THE RIGHT PERSON.
10:09:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:09:14AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THERE ARE TWO GOOD POINTS HERE.
I THINK MR. CARLSON IS RIGHT ABOUT EXTEND IT 30 DAYS.
FOR ME, WHAT I HAVE SEEN SO FAR.
I AM AN ACTION PERSON.
I AM NOT A TALKER.
I THINK YOU GOT A PERSON WHO IS HERE.
AND THE ACTION I HAVE SEEN, WHAT I CALL YOUR RIGHT-HAND MAN
HAS BEEN DOING THAT JOB.
I SEE KNOWLEDGE.
AGGRESSIVENESS.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN FLIP IT OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
PEOPLE ARE PAID WHAT THEY ARE WORTH.
BUT I THINK THAT -- SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN HERE, YOU HAVE BEEN
ASSEMBLING A TEAM.
I HAVE DON'T WANT TO BREAK THE TEAM UP.
AND AS LONG AS THE TEAM IS HERE, THERE IS A RELATIONSHIP
WITH THE BOARD AND THE TEAM.
THAT IS MY SPIN AND I WILL LET OTHER MEMBERS CHIME IN AND
YOU HAVE A TEAM AND ANOTHER PERSON WHO HAS COME IN WHO HAS
REALLY MADE IT MOVE AND GREAT WHEN THEY ARE ANTICIPATE.
THEY ARE ANTICIPATE.
WHEN THEY SEE THINGS HAPPEN, THEY AIN'T ANGRY.
SO THAT IS MY SPIEL ON THAT.
10:10:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:10:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND HOWEVER YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE
APPLICATIONS.
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT SOME OF THE PROBLEMS CAN ARISE AT.
THAT INDIVIDUAL OR GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WORKING NOW
MAY BE RELUCTANT TO GET THAT JOB OR APPLY FOR THAT JOB.
I WAS ONCE FACED THAT DECISION AND TURNED MY POSITION DOWN
AROUND NEEDED TO WORK IN THE '70s.
THE AGREEMENT I MADE WITH THE BOSS, IF I AM DISMISSED I GO
BACK TO MY REGULAR JOB.
MAYBE WHY THEY ARE NOT APPLYING.
I AM NOT SAYING THAT THE REASON, BUT YOU LOOK DOWN THE LANE,
IF THAT DOESN'T -- I JUST MOVED HERE.
I HAVE TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IT IS A WONDER ON THE MINDS OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE
APPLYING SAYING WHAT HAPPENS IF IT DOES NOT WORK.
THAT IS WHY MAYBE NO ONE HAS APPLIED FROM WITHIN.
I AGREE WITH TIME FOR A DELAY BUT A TIME PERIOD AND THEN
STOP THERE IS AND COPACETIC.
THAT IS MY OPINION.
THEY ARE NOT APPLYING MAYBE BECAUSE THEY FEEL IF THEY ARE
NOT ACCEPTED LATER ON, THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO GO AND THAT IS A
VERY DANGEROUS THING TO DO TO AN INDIVIDUAL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:12:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:12:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT IF THERE IS NO CANDIDATE BETTER
THAN YOURSELF.
I PRAISED YOU ON TUESDAY AS A SUPERSTAR AND THE TEAM YOU
HAVE ASSEMBLED AS COUNCILMAN GUDES ALREADY MENTIONED.
YOU ARE FANTASTIC.
YOU GO ABOVE AND BEYOND.
I UNDERSTAND THERE SHOULD BE A SEPARATION, BUT I THINK WE
HAVE THE BEST CANDIDATE IN FRONT OF US.
AND I AM SAYING THAT -- I KNOW THERE ARE 30 OTHER APPLICANTS
AND ONE IS QUALIFIED, WHATEVER, MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS.
BUT YOU HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB.
SO THAT IS JUST MY OPINION, BUT IF THERE IS A 30-DAY
EXTENSION, I GET IT, BUT I AM SATISFIED AS -- WHERE WE ARE
AT NOW.
10:12:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
10:13:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
I CAN CHANGE MY MOTION.
I ONLY SAID UNTIL WHICH TIME.
JUST IN CASE SOMETHING UNFORESEEABLE COMES UP AND WE HAVE TO
GO A FEW DAYS LONGER OR SHORTER THAN 30 DAYS, BUT I WILL
AMEND MY MOTION SO SAY 45 DAYS IF THAT SUFFICES TO
EVERYBODY'S WISHES.
10:13:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:13:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MY ONLY PROBLEM IS I DON'T WANT TO OVERLOAD
MISS TRAVIS.
SHE HAS GOT A LOT GOING ON.
WE ARE STILL RUNNING THE OTHER CITY PROJECTS AND YOU ARE
TALKING ABOUT EIGHT CRAs.
I AM STILL IN THE MIND SET SHE HAS A RIGHT HAND AND WE CAN
MANEUVER THAT WHERE THE RIGHT HAND CAN HANDLE THE CRA ISSUES
AND A JOINT UNIT AT THE HIP AND SOME ISSUE.
AND I TONIGHT WANT HER BURNED OUT MISS TRAVIS WORK WITH THE
HIRE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE.
HIRE MORE PEOPLE FOR THE HOUSING SITUATION.
AND STILL RUNNING OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE DEALS AND
NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CITY.
THAT IS MY OWN COLONEL.
OFF HAND TO TWIST THAT AND MA PARTICULAR WORK.
10:14:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBERS CARLSON.
10:14:23AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NICOLE AND HER TEAM DOES A GREAT JOB.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
AS BOARD MEMBER GUDES SAID, OFF WHOLE OTHER BIGGER
PORTFOLIO.
AS CITY COUNCIL, WE NEED FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO WORK YOUR
MAGIC ON THAT PORTFOLIO TOO.
WE HAVE COMPLAINTS ALMOST EVERY DAY FROM EVERYBODY FROM
INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS TO DEVELOPERS COMPLAINING OF THE
PERMITTING PROCESS AND THE OTHER PROCESSES THAT YOU OVERSEE.
YOU ARE GOING IN AND CHANGE THAT.
YOU ARE PERSONALLY DEAL WITH PEOPLE.
EVERY COMPLAINT, YOU PERSONALLY HANDLE IT.
AND THE PERMITTING PROCESS IS HURTING OUR ECONOMY.
WE CAN'T SLOW IT DOWN AND WE NEED TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE.
OTHER THING IS WE NEED TO FIX ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
THE REASON WE HAVE A HOUSING PROBLEM BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T
AFFORD IT.
THE REASON THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT BECAUSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
IN THE CITY HAS BEEN SUBSIDIZING BIG COMPANIES AND
HIGH-PAYING JOBS AND NOT ON MIDDLE CLASS AND POOR PEOPLE.
IF YOU CHECK THE CENSUS DATA, MIDDLE CLASS SHRANK.
THE DISPARITY BETWEEN BLOCKS AND WHITES AND MEN AND WOMEN
INCREASED.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.
IF YOU FIXED THAT PROBLEM WE WON'T HAVE AN AFFORDABLE
HOUSING PROBLEM BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD RENT AND PAY
AND BUY HOMES.
I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO WORK ON ALL OF THESE THINGS BUT IF
YOU CAN HELP US FIND SOMEONE REALLY GOOD TO RUN THIS, THAT
WOULD BE GREAT.
THANK YOU.
10:16:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:16:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WHAT IS THE SALARY FOR THE CRA DIRECTOR?
10:16:19AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I KNEW YOU WOULD ASK ME THAT.
I DON'T KNOW.
THE TOP OF THE RANGE IS $165,000.
10:16:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
$165,000.
10:16:28AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I CAN OFFER A SUGGESTION -- SORRY, YOU HAD
ANOTHER QUESTION?
10:16:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NO.
10:16:34AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I WAS GOING TO OFFER THE SUGGESTION.
I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID.
WE HAVE -- WE DO HAVE A QUALIFIED APPLICANT AND I UNDERSTAND
WHAT YOU ARE SAYING OF THE TEAM.
GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK IN AND PROVIDE SOME
OPTIONS TO TRY TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT AND SOME COUNTY
COMMENTS THAT YOU IT MEET THE CANDIDATES AND -- I CAN'T BE
CREATIVE RIGHT NOW.
I AM ALSO NOT FEELING WELL.
I AM NOT THINKING STRAIGHT, BUT IF YOU GIVE ME THE
OPPORTUNITY, WE WILL CONTINUE TO ADVERTISE THE POSITION BUT
ALSO TRY TO BE A LITTLE ALLOW ME TO BE CREATIVE WHAT THE
STRUCTURE WILL LOOK LIKE.
10:17:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER.
10:17:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GUDES IF YOU INTERVIEW 30 AND YOU HAVE ONE
THAT IS THE PRIME.
10:17:27AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WE DIDN'T INTERVIEW 30.
WE HAD 30 RESPONSES AND ONE, WHICH IS AN INTERNAL, MET THE
REQUIREMENT -- THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE POSITION.
SO I HAVE -- I AM GOING TO BE VERY CLEAR.
WE HAVE MANAGERS -- THEY EXCEED.
BUT THE OTHER 29 CANDIDATES DIDN'T MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS.
AND YOU HAVE MANAGER FROM HOME DEPOT THAT HAVE APPLIED AND
STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT I AM TELLING YOU.
BUT FROM -- FROM AN EXECUTIVE POSITION, I.
I ALWAYS TRY TO PRESENT WITH OPTIONS.
THE BEST DECISION WITH THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE AND
TRYING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE.
37 AND I FEEL LIKE I WOULD BE DOING YOU A DISSERVICE IF I
DIDN'T PROVIDE YOU WITH AS MANY OPTIONS AS POSSIBLE.
I HEARD THE COMMENTS AND GO BACK AND TRY TO -- JUST ALLOW ME
TO THINK ABOUT IT FOR A LITTLE BIT AND MEET WITH EACH OF YOU
INDIVIDUALLY TO GIVE YOUR THOUGHTS AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH
A PROPOSAL.
10:18:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I GUESS I WILL HAVE A MOMENT.
I THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.
I THINK YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT HOW WE -- I THINK WHAT THAT
MAKES THIS POSITION SO DIFFICULT IS THAT WE ARE ALSO LOOKING
FOR PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND FLORIDA CRA.
AND THAT PRECLUDES I BELIEVE A NATIONAL SEARCH.
10:18:59AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THAT'S CORRECT.
10:19:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE DON'T WANT TO BE TEACHING TOO MUCH.
BUT I DID SAY THAT IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF FINDING
PEOPLE WHO HAVE FLORIDA CRA EXPERIENCE AND MOVED ON TO OTHER
STATES MIGHT BE AN AREA THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND
POSSIBLY MORE CANDIDATES.
10:19:19AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
ONE THING I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION IS
SHE IS SERVING AS INTERIM.
AND TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE WHERE SHE IS WITH THE SEARCH.
WHAT ACTIONS MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR YOU ALL AT THAT TIME AND
WHETHER HER TERM AS INTERIM DIRECTOR MAY NEED TO BE
EXTENDED, PERHAPS, DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
10:19:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MY ORIGINAL MOTION UNTIL A NEW DIRECTOR IS
FOUND.
10:20:03AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
SAYING THAT YOU CAN HAVE TIME.
10:20:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU CAN TAKE BACK YOUR MOTION.
10:20:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS TRAVIS, YOU HIDE YOUR SUPERHERO CAPE
VERY, VERY WELL.
10:20:14AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THANK YOU.
IS THAT IT?
I AM GOING TO LEAVE YOU IN VERY GOOD AND CAPABLE HANDS
TODAY.
PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO CALL ME IF YOU NEED ANYTHING.
I APPRECIATE YOU.
10:20:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER SOON.
10:20:29AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THANK YOU.
10:20:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I THINK WE ARE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 5.
10:20:41AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
GOOD MORNING, DRUM DRUM, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR
FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY.
STAFF REPORTS UP FIRST.
JEFF BURTON WITH THE FOUR CRAS.
10:20:54AM >> GOOD MORNING.
THERE -- NEXT SLIDE.
NEXT SLIDE.
10:21:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ARE STUCK.
10:21:21AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
THERE WE GO.
RIGHT NOW, THIS MONTH, THE DOWNTOWN CRA, WE ARE DOING -- ALL
FOUR OF THE URBAN CRAs ARE DOING OF A VALIDATION OF THE
BOUNDARIES USING USF PLANNING DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT
ALL THE BOUNDARIES ARE WHERE THEY ARE POSITIONED TO BE.
SOME OF THE PLANS ARE MUCH OLDER AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT EVERYTHING IS CORRECT.
WE ARE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF A WAY FINDING PLAN CONSULTANT
SEARCH.
WE ARE WORK WITH CONTRACT MANAGEMENT AND DOING A PICK THREE
AND THAT PROCESS IS GOING ON VERY WELL.
WE HAVE A TEAM OF OTHER CITY STAFFERS IN MOBILITY AND OTHER
DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL BE WORKING WITH US TO GET THAT UNDER
WAY.
WE HAVE MONEY FUNDED THIS YEAR FOR THAT PROJECT.
AND WE HAVE MONEY FUNDED IN THE BUDGET THAT YOU JUST SAW FOR
THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE SIGNS IN THEIR PLACEMENTS.
THIS IS A TWO BUDGET ITEM.
FIRST WE DO THE CONSULTING AND THEN THE ACTUAL INSTALLATION.
THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED --
RECOMMENDED KITTELSON.
THAT VOTE WAS TAKEN FOR THE DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THIS IS NOT AN UPDATE AND NOT TAKING THE EXISTING PLAN IS IT
AND MAKING AMENDMENTS TO THIS.
IN IS THE COMPLETE REWRITE.
THE CAC RECOMMENDED AND VOTED UNANIMOUSLY ON THE FEE FOR THE
PLAN.
THE MONEY IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.
WAITING FOR SIGNATURES FROM THE CONSULTANT.
WE WANTED TO GET IT TO YOU TODAY WAIT UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER
MEETING.
THE CRA STAFF IS WORK WITH THE PARTNERSHIP FOR A SUSTAINABLE
STREET PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR AND AN EAST-WEST CORRIDOR THAT
HAS NOT BEEN DECIDED YET.
WE ARE TALK WITH MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND WE ARE
LOOKING AT FINANCING, HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK SO IT IS
COMPLETELY DONE.
AND IT IS SOMETHING TO BE EXTREMELY PROUD OF.
WE ALSO HAVE MONEY AND WE ARE WORK WITH ARTS AND CULTURE ON
A -- ON A SCULPTURE, THE ARTWORK THAT GOES INTO THE TAMPA
UNION STATION.
THAT IS IN THE BUDGET.
AND YOU ASK FOR AN UPDATE ON KID MASON CENTER.
WE WENT AND LOOKED YESTERDAY IN ACELA, AND THEY ARE DOWN TO
TWO ITEMS THAT HAVE TO BE APPROVED AND I WAS TOLD --
10:24:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
JEFF, GEE WHIZ.
10:24:08AM >> I UNDERSTAND AND DOWN FROM 70 AND TWO ITEMS TO WORK TO
GET THEM OUT OF THE WAY AND GO TO RFP.
A LITTLE MORE PATIENCE IS APPRECIATED.
10:24:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THOUGHT WE WENT UP FOR AN RFP.
I AM LOST NOW.
10:24:24AM >>THE ARCHITECT -- THE CRA CHOSE THE ARCHITECT TO DO THE
REDESIGN.
THE ARCHITECT HAS BEEN WORK WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WHEN
HE GOT HERE 70 ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE PREPARED.
AND ONCE THEY ARE APPROVED BY THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THEN
WE WILL BE ABLE TO GO OUT FOR A CONTRACTOR.
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE BEEN WAITING ON THE PLANS AND THE
PERMITS.
WE ARE ALMOST THERE WITH THAT.
AND WE WILL THEN TURN AROUND AND PUT IT OUT FOR BID.
10:25:02AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I AM GOING TO SAY -- I DON'T KNOW THE
SITUATION OF WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS PARTICULAR
ARCHITECT, BUT WAY UNACCEPTABLE.
THIS HAS BEEN SINCE 2019.
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
I AM SORRY -- IF THAT IS THE CASE THAT PERSON SHOULD HAVE
BEEN LET GO.
THAT CONTRACT AND SHOULD HAVE WENT OUT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
NO MATTER -- I JUST SAY THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
I AM SORRY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAIN THAT THESE PROJECTS
GET BACKLOGGED, BACKLOGGED, BACKLOGGED, AND ASK WHAT IS
GOING ON.
THIS CAN'T HAPPEN.
I AM JUST GOING TO SAY THERE NEEDS TO BE A PUSH ON THIS.
10:25:41AM >> YES, SIR.
ALSO THE MONEY IS BUDGETED FOR THAT AND WE ALSO INCLUDED AN
EXTRA 250,000 OR $250,000 OR $500,000 IN THE NEXT BUDGET IN
CASE WE HAVE ESCALATION IN PRICES.
WE WANTED TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT BECAUSE WE SHOULD JUST
EXPECT IT.
WE HAVE DONE THAT BOTH FOR HERMAN MASSEY OR KID MASON.
IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE SLIDES.
OKAY.
CHANNEL DISTRICT.
WE ARE ALSO DOING THE -- THE BOUNDARY SURVEYS.
DOING THEM FOR ALL FOUR.
WE ARE DOING THE WAY FINDING FOR ALL FOUR.
THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY HAS DISCUSSED A LOCAL EMPLOYEE
WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM.
SO WHAT THIS IS, THIS IS TO PUT THE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK IN
THE AREA WHO WORK IN CHANNEL DISTRICT AND EVEN INTO DOWNTOWN
IN THE LOCATION AND TO LIVE WHERE THEY WORK.
THIS THIS WOULD BE A SELF-FUNDING PROGRAM WHICH MEANS THAT
WE WOULD WORK WITH DEVELOPER WHO ARE COMING ONLINE TO
GUARANTEE SO MANY MARKET RATE UNITS TO THE CRA AND WORK WITH
THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND WE WOULD -- I CONCUR IF WE DO
THIS, WE WILL NEED TO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER BUILT INTO THE
HOUSING DEPARTMENT TO MANAGE THIS TO PUT THOSE WORKERS INTO
THOSE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY IN FROM SOME
OTHER LOCATION.
THERE WAS A SURVEY THAT WAS DONE WHEN I FIRST TO THE HERE
AND SAID THE TWO BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN THE CITY WERE LACK OF
HOUSING AND LONG ROUTES TO GET TO HOUSING.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT THEY ARE THE SAME THING.
EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
IF WE HAVE HOUSE THE DOWNTOWN AND CHANNEL DISTRICT, THEN WE
DON'T HAVE THE LONG COMMUTES.
THE OTHER THING IS, THE STATUTE IS VERY CLEAR.
IT SAYS "SLUM AND BLIGHT."
ABSOLUTELY.
OR A LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSE THE AREA OR A NEED FOR CRIME
PREVENTION.
SO THAT IS WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS.
AND IF THERE IS ONE THING I HAVE LACKED IS LACK OF WORK
FORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I LIKE TO USE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DEFINITIONS BASED ON
AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME.
USUALLY 120% AMI.
WE WILL BE WORKING TO BRING YOU A POLICY AND EVEN A PROGRAM
OF HOW TO FUND IT TO BRING THE WORKERS INTO THE AREAS WHERE
THEY CAN WALK TOWARD.
AND EVEN USING THE STREETCAR TO GET THEM -- SO THEY MIGHT
NOT BE THAT CLOSE AND SO WE CAN USE -- WE WANT PEOPLE TO USE
THE FUNDING AND MAKE IT FREE.
WE NEED MORE BODIES ON THE STREET CAR.
THE --
10:28:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, GO -- ANYONE?
I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE YOU FOCUS ON 80% OR LOWER BECAUSE
120% AMI FIVE YEARS AGO WAS SOMETHING, BUT TODAY IT REALLY
ISN'T, BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A HIGHER AMI DUE TO THE
BUSINESSES WE ARE GETTING.
AND THE PEOPLE -- THE -- THE INCREASES IN -- IN SALARIES.
SO IF YOU CAN FOCUS ON THE FOLKS WHO ARE REALLY DOING THE
JOBS THAT PEOPLE IN CHANNELSIDE NEED THEM TO DO.
120 IS NOT GOING TO -- NOT GOING TO WORK.
10:29:06AM >> WE WILL BRING YOU A -- A RESULTS -- WE CAN ACTUALLY
CREATE AN ADAPTIVE SPREADSHEET WHERE WE CAN PLUG IN THE
RIGHT PERCENTAGE AND SEE THE DIFFERENCES AND HOW MUCH -- HOW
MANY UNITS WE CAN GAIN WITH THE MONEY WE HAVE AND THEN THE
BOARD CAN DECIDE.
THEY MIGHT WANT TO DO BOTH.
AND JUST SPREAD IT BETWEEN BOTH.
SO -- BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE DOWNTOWN AND
CHANNEL DISTRICT THAT MAKE 80% AMI OR LESS.
10:29:35AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I THINK THE PROGRAM NEEDS TO HAVE DETAIL
AND WHAT WE NEED TO TIE IT TO IS THE STATE DEFINITION OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAVE INCOME LEVELS.
120% DOES MEET, I THINK, A CERTAIN LEVEL OF WHAT IS THEMED
"AFFORDABLE" AND GRADUATE LEVELS OF MEDIUM, LOW.
AND 80% ISSED MEDIUM LEVEL.
AND I THINK AS WE BRING OUT THE PROGRAM, WE CAN DEFINE WHAT
THE LEVELS ARE AND TO PUT THE CRA FUNDING FOR.
10:30:03AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
10:30:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:30:06AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN A BIG ADVOCATE FOR
PUTTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ALL THE DISTRICTS AND TWO
YEARS AGO, WE DECIDED TO PUT 30% IN AND NOTHING REALLY
HAPPENED.
IF -- IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO -- IN THIS PROPOSAL, I THINK WE
NEED TO DO LIKE THEY SAID AND KEEP A VERY NARROW DEFINITION.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND STATE'S DEFINITION OF IT.
IF WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT COST EFFECTIVELY, AGAIN, IF WE
COMPARE -- IF WE USE THE MONEY IN ANOTHER AREA IF IT IS COST
EFFECTIVE, THEN PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO WORK AND AFFORDABLE
HOUSING DISTRIBUTED AND LOOK AT OPTIONS.
THE REALITY NO LAND IN CHANNEL DISTRICT.
PAID $4 MILLION FOR POSTAGE STAMP FOR A PARK.
NO LAND FOR PARAGE.
THE ONLY LAND AVAILABLE IS THE WORKING PORT THAT I WILL
HEAVILY DEFEND INTO DEVELOPING INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
EVEN IF WE GOT THE LAND, IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE
AND LAND THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE ALL THE DEVELOPERS ARE
SALIVATING.
WE HAVE ONE PARCEL WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT A FIRE STATION
JUST BECAUSE A DEVELOPER IS BEING GENEROUS AND WANTS A FIRE
STATION THERE.
BUT OTHERWISE, THERE IS NO LAND.
WE MOVED FORWARD A YEAR TO OR SO AGO TO WHY UP DATE THE PLAN
OF THE CRA.
THE REALITY IS WHERE, WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGHOUT
THE CITY.
WE HAVE PARKS THAT ARE FALLING APART ALL OVER THE CITY
INCLUDING SOUTH TAMPA.
WE HAVE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE FALLING APART.
WE HAVE POTHOLES.
WE HAVE PLACES ALL OVER THE CITY WHERE WE CAN'T PUT
SIDEWALKS.
AND HE THINKS OUR SIDEWALK IS AROUND $600,000 A YEAR.
IF WE MOVED A MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF THIS CRA AND PUT IT
INTO A SIDEWALK FUND, AND IT IS COMPLICATED TO DO THAT.
IF WE DID IT, IT WOULD MORE THAN DOUBLE OUR SIDEWALK AND
MAKE KIDS AND FAMILIES SAFER THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.
AND I THINK WHATEVER DECISIONS WE MAKE, WE SHOULDN'T JUST
MAKE THE DECISION BECAUSE WE HAPPEN TO HAVE THE MONEY THERE.
WE HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION HOW TO BETTER USE THE MONEY
BECAUSE WE ARE OUTSIDE.
WE SOUGHT SITUATION OF SLUM AND BLIGHT.
NOT LIKE 30 YEARS AGO.
ROBUST COMMUNITY, WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE.
A HUGE SUCCESS AND WE NEED TO SEE WHERE WE SPEND TAXPAYER
MONEY AND MAKE A SENSE TO KEEP IT THERE AND HIT THAT TIGHT
DEFINITION, FINE.
IF NOT, WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT MOVING IT INTO A
SIDEWALKS FUND, TO ARE IDEALLY AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND
THAT WE CAN USE IN THE BEST PLACES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
THANK YOU.
10:33:02AM >> ALSO WORKING WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND DOING
IT ALL IN THE DOWNTOWN URBAN CRA TO INCLUDE CPTED AS AN
ELEMENT.
AS WE BRING ONLINE GRANTS.
AND NUMBER DEVELOPMENTAL DESIGN OFFER GRANT MONEY --
MATCHING GRANT MONEY TO STOREFRONT OWNERS AND BUILDING
OWNERS TO WORK WITH THE PD TO PUT EYES ON THE STREET THROUGH
CAMERAS AND OTHER USES OF CPTED.
WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH PARKS AND RECREATION.
WE AGREE THAT THE LAND IN CHANNELSIDE IS VERY RICH.
AND WE CAN'T MOVE FAST ENOUGH EVERY TIME WE SEE A PIECE OF
PROPERTY, WE ARE NOT FAST ENOUGH TO COMPETE WITH THE
DEVELOPERS.
BY THE TIME THEY GET TO IT, IT IS ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT AND
USUALLY FOR A PRICE THAT WE FEEL THE BOARD WOULD NOT
RECOMMEND -- THAT WILL HELP ANYWAY.
HAVE RECREATIONAL USES ON IT.
THE NEXT FOR GREEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE.
GREEN SPACE IS TOO EXPENSIVE RIGHT NOW.
OPEN SPACE ON THE OTHER HAND CAN BE CREATED AND WE ARE
WORKING TO GO VERTICAL IN CHANNEL DISTRICT WITH OUR
RECREATION TO CREATE MORE GREEN SPACE.
WE HAVE WASHINGTON STREET PARK.
AND IT IS BEING -- IT IS ALREADY BUDGETED FOR PLANNING THIS
YEAR AND FOR CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR AND WE ARE WORK WITH
DICK HITE CONSULTANT TO BRING FORWARD A VERTICAL PARK SYSTEM
THAT WILL ACTUALLY INCREASE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT PARK,
ALMOST DOUBLE IT, FOR A MUCH, MUCH LOWER PRICE THAN IF WE
WERE TO PURCHASE LAND OF THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE.
WE ARE ALSO WORK WITH PARKS AND RECREATION BECAUSE THERE IS
A LITTLE BIT OF APPREHENSION THERE BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING
NEW WE HAVE LOOKED AND LOOKED AND LOOKED OVER THE INTERNET
TO FIND SOMETHING SIMILAR AND HAVE YET TO FIND IT.
INNOVATIVE AND CREATIVE.
EXACTLY WHAT CRAs ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.
THE PLAN, ONE OF THE MAJOR PARTS IS TO CREATE NEW GREEN
SPACE AND OPEN SPACE.
WE ARE TRYING TO FIND YOU THE COOLEST, BEST, NEATEST, MOST
CREATIVE WAY TO DO THAT AT THE BEST PRICE.
THIS IS WHY WE ARE BRING THIS FORWARD.
WE WILL DO CONCEPTUALS AND BRING THAT TO THE BOARD.
ALSO, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT KEN ATKINS, YOUR CITY
HORTICULTURALIST.
WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT ENHANCED PUBLIC LANDSCAPING AND
MAINTENANCE IN CHANNEL.
AND I FOUND IN HIM AN EXCELLENT PART NEAR CAN USE PRIVATE
VENDORS AND CONTRACTS TO HELP US REACH THAT GOAL.
WE ARE IN NEGOTIATION TO START THE NEW BUDGET YEAR.
WE HAVE MONEY BUDGETED IN THIS UPCOMING BUDGET AND THAT WILL
BE LANDSCAPING AND THEN ENHANCED MAINTENANCE ABOVE AND
BEYOND WHAT THE CITY CURRENTLY PROVIDES AND SHOW THAT
THROUGH CONTRACTS.
AND TO BE ABLE TO PROVE THROUGH THE BOARD THAT WE ARE TAKE
IT ABOVE -- A STEP ABOVE WHAT -- WHAT IS CURRENTLY PROVIDED
THROUGH THE CITY.
CENTRAL PARK AND TAMPA HEIGHTS.
10:36:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONE MOMENT.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:36:28AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SORRY ONE MORE THING AND THE DRUM BEAT I
HAVE BEEN MAKING IT FOR NUMBER OF YEARS AND I AM SURE MY
COLLEAGUES MAY BE TIRED OF HEARING THIS.
BUT ALONG THAT CORRIDOR AROUND THE AQUARIUM AND AROUND THE
BEND, THREE CRUISE TERMINALS -- MAYBE ABOUT TO BE ONE MORE
-- AND A HUGE SHIP -- TOGETHER THEY REPRESENT A COUPLE OF
HIGH PAYING THOUSAND JOBS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT LAND, OH, WE CAN JUST DEVELOP THAT AS
CONDOS, ONCE A CONDO IS BUILT, THERE ARE NO MORE HIGH PAYING
JOBS.
WHERE ARE THE HIGH PAYING JOBS ON A CONDO BUILDING?
ALL OF THE MONEY -- IF YOU LOOK AT -- IF YOU LOOK AT THE
CITY AS THE BUSINESS -- YOU LOOK AT THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY
FOR PROPERTY TAXES BECAUSE MOST OF THE LAND IS BY THE PORT.
WHY DO WE NEED 50,000 AFFORDABLE HOMES?
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT EARNING ENOUGH.
WE TAKE 1,000 JOBS WHERE PEOPLE ARE MAKING $80,000 PLUS AND
GET RID OF THEM TO BUILD CONDOS, 1,000 MORE AFFORDABLE
HOMES.
SO PLEASE AS YOU ARE LOOKING -- EVERYBODY AS YOU ARE LOOKING
AT THAT LAND, THINK ABOUT, IT'S NOT -- CAN'T BE WHAT IS
SHINY, BRIGHT AND NEW.
LOOKS PRETTY.
AND SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE MOVE NEAR THE PORT -- THEY SAY IF
WE GET RID OF THE UGLY STUFF.
THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF JOBS NOT INCLUDING THE ECONOMIC
IMPACT OF IT.
THINK OF 50 TO 100 YEARS IN THE FUTURE, TAMPA HAS BEEN SLOW
COMPARED TO OUR OTHER PORTS IN FLORIDA AND IT WILL TAKE OFF
IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS BECAUSE THE OTHER PORTS ARE CROWDED
OUT THE THING WE HAVE THAT OTHER PORTS DON'T HAVE IS LAND.
MAKE THE MISTAKE 10 OR 20 YEARS AGO, WE NEED TO BUILD THE
INNER HARBOR AND THAT HAS FAILED.
THE CHANNEL, AND INNER HARBOR HAS FAILED.
WE MAY NEVER GET THOSE JOBS BACK AND HAVE A DISTRIBUTION
PROBLEM.
ALL OF CENTRAL FLORIDA RELY ON OUR PORT.
ORLANDO GETS ITS OL' AND GAS FROM US.
WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO PROTECT THOSE AREAS TO MAKE SURE WE
KEEP THE JOBS.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AS AN ECONOMIC SYSTEM.
WE NEED MORE HIGH-PAYING JOBS, NOT FEWER.
AND IF WE GET THE HIGH PAYING JOBS, WE NEED HOUSING.
10:38:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AGREE.
I TOOK THE PORT TOUR LAST WEEK AND IT IS AMAZING THE
ECONOMIC DRIVER THAT IT IS.
SO THANK YOU.
10:39:00AM >> GO BACK TO THE SLIDES.
CENTRAL PARK, WHICH IS ONE OF THE SMALLEST AREAS IN THE
URBAN AREA.
AGAIN THE FIRST TWO ARE UNDER WAY, WORKING WITH THE OTHER
CRAs.
THE CAC HAVE RECOMMENDED TO BUDGET FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE
PARADISE BAPTIST CHURCH AND STABILIZATION.
THAT IS IN THE BUDGET WE HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH THE
FAMILY THATS THAT THAT CHURCH.
NOTHING HAS COME AT IT THAT WE NEED TO GO TO REAL ESTATE AND
THAT BUDGET NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD PRIOR TO US
DOING ANYTHING.
I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
THAT PLAN STRONGLY URGES THE CRA TO PROTECT AND ENCOURAGE
THE CENTRAL AVENUE HISTORY.
AND THAT CHURCH IS ONE OF THE LARGEST FEW REMAINING
BUILDINGS THAT STILL EXIST IN THAT AREA AND IT IS -- IT
HOUSES A HUGE COLLECTION OF THEM BILL I CAN'T AND DIFFERENT
TYPES OF ARTIFACTS FROM THE AREA PLUS A LOT MORE.
10:40:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:40:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM REAL HAPPY TO SEE THIS HAVING
TOURED IT.
COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS THERE AS WELL.
PASTOR WILLIAMS HAS BEEN COMING HERE FOREVER.
WHAT -- YOU KNOW, HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT BUILDING,
YOU ALREADY SAID IT.
WHAT CENTRAL AVENUE WAS, THE ENTIRE DISTRICT HAS A HANDFUL
OF BUILDINGS THAT EXIST.
WE CAN'T PROPERLY TEACH AND SHARE THE HISTORY OF THAT AREA
BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST.
LIKE DEMOLISHING YBOR CITY.
I AM GLAD TO SEE THIS HERE.
AND YOU ARE RIGHT, THE COLLECTION THAT IS HOUSED -- I DON'T
WANT TO SAY DOWNSTAIRS, BUT THE BOTTOM LEVEL IS SOMETHING
THAT I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO SEE MAYBE IN JUNCTION WITH
THE HISTORY CENTER.
BECAUSE IT'S -- YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE CERTAIN EVENTS IN
HISTORY WE SAY NEVER FORGET.
THIS IS SOMETHING ESPECIALLY WITH THE SELF-RIGHTS MOVEMENT
AND ALL THE CHANGES AND THE JIM CROW ERA.
WHAT IS THERE IS -- WHEN SEE IT, YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT.
AND WHEN YOU LEARN ABOUT IT, YOU DON'T WANT TO FORGET IT.
AND WE SHOULDN'T SO HISTORY DOES NOT REPEAT ITSELF AND WE
SEE HOW THINGS USED TO BE AND ALSO HOW -- MAKE SURE WE NEVER
GO BACK TO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT.
THANK YOU, SIR.
10:41:23AM >> THANK YOU.
SO THAT WILL BE -- ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
IT WILL GO THROUGH REAL ESTATE AND GO THROUGH THE PROPER
PURCHASING FOR -- THAT THE CITY USES.
AND IT'S ALSO THERE.
I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO REPORTING IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEAR
FUTURE ON THAT MOVEMENT.
THIS AREA IS WORKING ON -- THIS IS TAMPA HEIGHTS ALSO.
I BEHIND THEM.
ALSO WORKING ON A ROUNDABOUT THAT A CAC APPROVED -- OR
RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE
ROUNDABOUT ON OVER BY THE PEARL AND IT WILL BE COMING TO THE
BOARD AND WORKING ON PUBLIC ART CULTURE AND FINALLY WE ARE
WORKING ON -- NOT AT UNIVERSITY, BUT WORKING ON A CROSSWALK
BETWEEN STETSON UNIVERSITY PARKING LOT AND THE WATER WORKS
PARK ON THE CURVE.
COME FIND OUT MOBILITY WAS INTERESTED AS WELL AS FDOT AND WE
HOPE TO HAVING IN BACK TO YOU ON THAT AND MONEY BUDGETED ON
THE PLANNING OF THAT.
SIDEWALKS ON A THE STETSON SEED AND PROBABLY SOME STORMWATER
BECAUSE WE WILL BE PUTTING IN IMPERVIOUS SURFACES.
WE HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS TO DO THAT
PROJECT AND WOULD PROBABLY BE SOME TYPE OF LIGHTING SYSTEM
AND ON CURVE AND COULD BE A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION.
THOSE ARE THE FOUR URBAN CRAS AT THIS TIME.
I MIGHT WANT TO ADD THAT WE WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO ATTEND
THE FLORIDA REDEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION.
THIS YEAR I BEGGED AND BEGGED AND WE HAVE RICHARD ROTHSTEIN
AS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS.
HE WROTE "THE COLOR OF MONEY."
-- OR THE "COLOR OF LAW."
AND HE WILL BE SPEAKING AT ONE OF OUR SESSIONS.
VERY WELL-KNOWN AND RESPECTED AUTHOR.
THANK YOU.
10:43:24AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
UP NEXT IS JESUS NINO WITH WEST TAMPA AND
DREW PARK UPDATES.
10:43:38AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:43:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOOD MORNING.
10:43:41AM >> IF WE CAN GET THE PRESENTATION UP.
AS FAR AS WEST TAMPA.
A LOT GOING ON.
MANY, MANY PROJECTS.
I TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF HERE.
WE CONCLUDED LAST WEEK PHASE SIX OF OUR CLEANUP FOR THE
ALLEYWAYS ON THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THE CRA.
WE ARE ABOUT TO RELEASE AT THE END OF THE MONTH THE RFP TO
GO OUT THERE AND CLEAN UP ALL THE ALLEYS ALL AT ONCE.
THE REASON WE HAD IT IN IF A I TODAY LOOK AT WHAT IS AT USE
AND SO FORTH.
THIS RFQ, GO THERE AND CLEAN IT UP.
THE CAC WILL RECOMMEND TO DO IT FOUR TIMES A YEAR.
A COURTESY TO OUR RESIDENTS.
WE WILL EDUCATE THEM ON THEIR ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY TO
KEEP THE ALLEYWAYS MAINTAINED.
AS FAR AS -- WE HIRED A FULL-TIME CLEAN TEAM THAT START THIS
WEEK FOR MAIN STREET.
THEY ARE OUT THERE CLEANING UP.
I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE TALK WITH THEM.
TALKING TO THE NEW COMPANY.
MAKE SURE THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING
AND NOT MISSING ANY AREAS.
A LEARNING PROS IS FOR THEM UP-FRONT.
ONCE THEY GET THE HANG OF IT, ALL THE LITTLE NOOKS AND
CRANNIES.
SEEMS LIKE IT IS MISSING A SLIDE AND I WILL TAKE
RESPONSIBILITY MAKING SURE IT WASN'T PUT IN THERE, BUT
THAT'S OKAY.
BASICALLY WE HAVE -- WE DID A REQUEST OF PROPOSAL FOR RAY
PARK AND SALCINES.
SO WE WERE EXPECTING TO GET THAT BACK WITHIN THIS MONTH FOR
DESIGN-BUILD FOR THE PARKS.
WE DECIDED NOT TO GO FOR THE DESIGN BID BUILD PROCESS AND
THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR US AND HAVE THE DESIGN AND
WORK DIRECTLY TO THE CONTRACTOR TO GET IT DESIGNED AND GET
IT BUILT.
AS FAR AS OCTOBER 9, WE HAVE THE WEST TAMPA CULTURAL EVENT
WHICH IS STRICTLY FOR THE CRA.
CRA IS PUT IT TOGETHER AND FOR US TO GIVE US INFORMATION ON
OUR PROJECTS, PROGRAMS, AND OTHER CITY SERVICES.
SO NOT AN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION THAT IS PUT IT TOGETHER FOR
THE COMMUNITY THAT MUCH IS WEST TAMPA ANY QUESTIONS?
10:45:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:45:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU KNOW I WENT TO A FUNCTION -- A
BACK-TO-SCHOOL FUNCTION.
AND I KNOW WEST TAMPA ON THE BACK OF MY HAND, BUT I DID NOT
KNOW ABOUT THAT PARK, JESUS.
TELL THE BOARD ABOUT THAT PARK OVER THERE AND WHAT THE
CHURCH IS DOING.
10:46:09AM >> FREMONT AND LINEAR PARK IS THE PARK RIGHT IN THE CENTER
OF WEST TAMPA.
IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.
IT IS ACTUALLY STREETS THAT WERE CLOSED OFF BACK OVER A
DECADE AGO BY POLICE, FIRE AND CITY IN GENERAL.
BUT REVIVED CHURCH PUT TOGETHER AN EVENT OVER THE WEEKEND --
LAST WEEKEND AT FREEMAN LINEAR PARK.
I HAD PARKS AND REC GO AND CLEAN IT UP.
WE MOBILIZE VERY QUICKLY AND PUT TOGETHER A BOOTH WHERE I
FORM COUNCILMAN -- BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A SPECTACULAR EVENT.
THE COMMUNITY CAME OUT IN FORCE AND ENJOYED THEMSELVES.
RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF WEST TAMPA.
WE HAVE CONCEPT DESIGNS SALCIN ES AND WEST PARK.
10:47:02AM >> THANK YOU.
10:47:03AM >> ANY MORE QUESTIONS?
FOR DREW PARK, A SUCCESSFUL LISTENING SECTION AT
HILLSBOROUGH COMMUNITY COLLEGE OF IMPROVEMENTS WE WILL MAKE
TO TAMPA BAY LINEAR PARK AND A NEW POTENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD
PARK ON HUBERT AVENUE.
SO IT WAS VERY WELL ATTEND FROM THE COMMUNITY USUALLY WE
STRUGGLE TO HAVE QUORUMS.
THIS WASN'T A CAC MEETING, A PUBLIC MEETING AND FOR
LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS OWNERS, AND I
THINK IT WILL MOVE FORWARD VERY WELL.
WE HAVE A SECOND MEETING FOR AUGUST 30 AT HILLSBOROUGH
COMMUNITY COLLEGE, AND WE ARE HOPE GOING YOU WANT TO ATTEND,
YOU CAN ATTEND.
INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN WEST -- DREW PARK THAT WE
KNOW OF, HAVE THEM WORK WITH THE EVENT.
PLACE MAKER DESIGN STUDIOS AND CITY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS ON
THESE PROJECTS.
AS FAR AS OTHER PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON IN DREW PARK, WE
DID HIRE A CONSULTANT OONA.
OONA LAND SCAPE ARCHITECTURE TO LOOK AT LOIS AVENUE AND
GRADY AVENUE TO GIVE US AN ALL IT WHAT HAS WORKED OR WHAT
HAVEN'T WORKED IN THE PAST.
AFTER THAT, WE WILL GO OUT AND BID IT OUT TO NEXT THOSE
STREETS AND MAKE THEM SAFER.
AND SHE IS ALSO GOING TO CONCENTRATE ON THE ROUNDABOUT ON
TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD AND LOIS TO MAYBE PUT SOME KIND OF
PUBLIC ART PIECE THERE.
THAT CONCLUDES DREW PARK.
ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU.
10:48:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
10:48:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, COURTNEY ORR, YBOR CITY DEVELOPMENT
MANAGER.
CAN I HAVE THE SLIDE.
SO THE FISCAL YEAR '23 SPECIAL EVENTS CO-SPONSORSHIP GRANT
PROGRAM THAT SUPPORTS LOCAL NONPROFITS CELEBRATING THE ARTS
AND CULTURE OF YBOR RECEIVED 26 APPLICATIONS.
AND THE SEVEN-MEMBER REVIEW COMMITTEE LOOKED AT THOSE,
SCORED AND EVALUATED THEM, AND IN THE END AWARDED -- OR
RECOMMENDING AWARDING OF 23 OF THOSE FUNDING.
WE WILL BE SEEKING APPROVAL NEXT TUESDAY'S CRA MEETING.
EACH OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES TO REVIEW THEIR TOP PRIORITIES AND
REAFFIRM WHAT THEY SELECTED AS THE COMMUNITY PRIORITIES FROM
OUR VISION 2020 PLAN AND SO YOU CAN SEE LISTED THERE THAT
THE COMMUNITY PRESERVATION, SUSTAINABILITY, ECONOMIC GROWTH
AND MOBILITY, AND THIRDLY THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND DISTRICT
OPERATIONS AGREED ON THE WORTHWHILE COMMUNITY PRIORITIES
LISTED THERE.
THE TOP TWO PHOTOS ON THIS SLIDE ARE CAPTURING THE
CASA MARTI AT 7th AVENUE AND NUCCIO PARKWAY.
27 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND 9,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL
SPACE AND ANTICIPATED COMPLETION IS LATER IN 2023.
WSP, THE CONSULTANT SELECTED TO WORK ON THE 7th AVENUE COST
FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS ISSUED A NOTICE TO PROCEED AND A
INTERNAL KICKOFF MEET WITH MOBILITY AND YBOR CRA STAFF WILL
TAKE PLACE LATER NEXT MONTH.
AND WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO HAVE OFFICER -- TPD OFFICER
BRANDON CANE AS OUR NEW YBOR LIAISON PATROLLING 8 A.M. TO 5
P.M., MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
HE IS A GREAT PRESENCE ON 7th AVENUE AND AROUND THE
DISTRICT.
AND HE POPS INTO OUR OFFICE REGULARLY FOR UPDATES.
GREAT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN CRA STAFF AND POLICE.
AND LASTLY WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE, PLEASE CHECK OUT THE
FIRST WEDU PBS FROM YBOR.
HIGHLIGHTING THE FAMOUS CUBAN SANDWICH AND WEDU.ORG.
AND THEY WILL BE ROLLING OUT MORE SHORT-FORM EPISODES THAT
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING.
THANK YOU.
THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
10:51:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:51:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I SEE HERE THE CONSULTANT ALREADY WORKED
ON THE 7th AVENUE BRICKING COST FEES STUDY.
VERY GOOD.
I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT WHILE IN YBOR LAST NIGHT ABOUT HOW
MANY BEAUTIFUL THE STREET -- 7th AVENUE WOULD LOOK WITH THE
BRICKS AND RESTORE IT TO WHAT IT USED TO LOOK LIKE
PRE-1960s.
I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE.
THANK YOU.
10:51:52AM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU.
INCH.
10:52:07AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD MORNING, CEDRIC MCRAY, EAST TAMPA CRA
MAJOR.
SLIDE.
10:52:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT WAS UP THERE.
10:52:30AM >> FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT EAST TAMPA CAC FOR
BROOKINS TO FILL THE VACANCY THAT WAS OPENED UP BY MARTINEZ.
DR. BROOKINS WAS LISTED AS A CANDIDATE ON SLATE FOR ELECTION
-- THE UPCOMING ELECTION THAT WILL TAKE PLACE SEPTEMBER 13,
BUT APPROVED BY THE CAC AND THE EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP AT
THEIR MEETING LAST WEEK.
AND SHE WILL BE ROLLING OFF OF THE SLATE OF CANDIDATES.
NEXT I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE APPROVAL OF THE CAC FOR
$85,000 FOR KABOOM! BUILD AT WILLIAMS PARK.
VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE CRA BOARD LAST MONTH FOR APPROVING
THE EMERGENCY ROOF REPAIR PROGRAM.
WITH ME I HAVE BROUGHT A -- A YARD SIGN THAT IS NOT A
CAMPAIGN SIGN.
I KNOW WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THAT SEASON.
MANY OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW ABOUT THAT.
BUT THIS IS BE POSTED AT EACH RESIDENCE THAT RECEIVES THE
SERVICES.
WE HAVE AN ORIENTATION MEANING IT WILL BE TAKING PLACE WITH
ALL INTERESTED CONTRACTORS AND VENDORS FOR THE ROOFING
PROGRAM AND THAT WILL BE ON WEDNESDAY AUGUST 31.
AT 6 P.M. AT REAGAN PARK.
FROM THAT TIME, WE WILL START -- WE HAVE -- WE HAVE SEVERAL
HOMES THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS AND
TITLE SEARCH.
AND THE LIKE.
AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD SOME TIME
BEFORE THE FIRST OF SEPTEMBER AND THE APPLICATIONS WILL ALSO
ROLL OUT THE SECOND WEEK OF SEPTEMBER FOR THE PROGRAM, BUT
WE ARE GETTING CALLS DAILY AND RESIDENTS ARE VERY EXCITED
ABOUT THAT -- ABOUT THAT UPCOMING PROGRAM.
ALSO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN HAVING
CONVERSATION WITH TAMPA ELECTRIC COMPANY AS IT RELATES TO
SOME OF THE POLES AND THOROUGHFARES, LIKE 34.
SOME OF THEM NEED TO BE REAPAINTED AND TOUCHED UP.
WE ARE COMING TO THE END OF THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION WHEN
IT COMES TO RELATIONSHIP.
WE ARE LOOKING TO PAINTING AND UPGRADING THE POLES AT SOME
POINT TO GET BACK WITH US ON COST AND STYLES.
AND WE WILL SHARE THAT WITH THE EAST TAMPA CAC AT SOME POINT
AND WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLACE BANNERS AS WE ARE
TALKING OF BRANDING EAST TAMPA, YOU KNOW, HAVING SOMETHING
SIMILAR TO THE LOGO ON THE SIGN.
BUT I THINK IT WILL GO A LONG WAY WITH PEOPLE COME INTO THE
INTERSECTION THAT ARE CROSSING 21s, 24st, 22nd, MLK AND
HILLSBORO ON THE CITY OPERATED ROADS.
NEXT -- WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION OVER RECENT MONTHS AS
IT RELATES TO THE OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAD SOME BRIEF DISCUSSION LAST
TUESDAY OR THIS PAST TUESDAY ON THE PROGRAM.
THE COMMITTEE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE APPLICATION
OR APPLICATIONS THAT ARE COMMITTED.
AND MAKING A DECISION THE NEXT STEPS AND WILL READVERTISE.
THEY ARE NOT PLEASED WITH THE -- WITH THE ONE APPLICANT THAT
WAS APPROVED.
THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND WE WILL HAVE TO EITHER MOVE FORWARD WITH THE -- UPDATING
THE RFP FOR ADVERTISING AND TO CONDUCT AND RUN PROGRAM
IN-HOUSE WHICH WILL, YOU KNOW, ALSO BE DISCUSSED AND
HOPEFULLY HAVE A LOT MORE TO REPORT BACK AT THE SEPTEMBER
MEETING.
EAST TAMPA PREDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM WORKSHOP HELD ON THE 26th
OF JULY.
AND A LOT OF ROBUST DISCUSSION AND WE WILL BE TOUCHING TO
THAN LATER
SO I WILL YIELD FROM GOING TOO DEEP INTO THAT CONVERSATION.
EAST TAMPA STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN WAS SUPPLIED TO ALL EAST
TAMPA CAC MEMBERS, AS WELL AS THE MEMBERS OF THE CRA BOARD.
HOPEFULLY YOU RECEIVED THEM IN YOUR BOX.
THEY WERE DELIVERED IN HAND, AND ON AUGUST 2, THE EAST
TAMPA CAC.
I AM SORRY, YES, LAST WEEK VOTED TO UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO
MOVE FORWARD -- NOT UNANIMOUSLY.
6-2 VOTE TO APPROVE AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPROVAL OF A
STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN FOR EAST TAMPA.
AND YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION COMING UP HERE LATER THIS
MORNING AS WELL.
WE DID HAVE A CONCLUSION OF THE EAST TAMPA SUMMER YOUTH
PROGRAM.
AND ON IT YOU SEE A PICTURE.
WE HAD A CAPSTONE EVENT AND DONE PARTNERSHIP WITH HABITAT
FOR HUMANITY AND THE YOUTH WORK THIS SUMMER.
I THINK IT WAS TWO DAYS BEFORE THEY WRAPPED UP THE PROGRAM
AT THE END OF JULY.
BUILT -- PLANTER BOXES.
THOSE PLANTER BOX ALSO BE PLACED AT PROPERTIES IN EAST TAMPA
THAT HABITAT FOR HUMANITY WILL BE DOING WORK ON THIS SUMMER
AND REMAINDER OF THE YEAR AND ABLE TO DESIGN AND PAINT
EXACTLY HOW THEY WANTED -- AMAZING HOW SOME OF THE YOUNG MEN
AND WOMEN DID NOT HOLD A DRILL.
AND IT SHOWED.
SO I THINK THAT IT WAS GOOD TRAINING FOR THEM.
AND ALSO TO DO SOME GOOD AND GET OUT OF THE MONOTONY WHAT
THEY ARE DOING THROUGHOUT EAST TAMPA IN PARKS AND RECREATION
FACILITIES.
WE ARE HAVING SOME ONGOING PUBLIC ART DISCUSSION WHEN IT
COMES TO MURALS IN EAST TAMPA.
THE STUDIES AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE HAVE IDENTIFIED
VARIOUS SITES.
WE HAVE FUND THAT ARE ALLOCATED IN FY '23 BUDGET AND LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
NEXT, I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION PENNY SAVER.
ON THE PREVIOUS SIDE, I WILL GO BACK.
I WAS -- OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DETECTIVE CURTIS WILLIAMS SHARED
THAT PICTURE WITH ME A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND YOU MAY HAVE
RECEIVED NOTICE THAT THE DEMOLITION WOULD BE TAKING PLEAS ON
AUGUST 2410:30 A.M.,
I IMAGINE IT WILL BE A GROUND SWELL IN EAST TAMPA AND SHE
WILL BE THERE WITH HER HARD HAT ON AND LOOKING FORWARD TO
COME INTO FRUITION AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THAT PROJECT.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A POINT OF PERSONAL
PRIVILEGE TO THANK MISS EVA HUGHES.
MISS HUGHES HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THE WEST TAMPA CRA OFFICE
FOR NINE AND A HALF TO TEN YEARS.
SHE WILL BE TRANSITIONING TO A NEW DEPARTMENT IN THE CIT
BUT SHE -- IN MY RETURNING BACK TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, MISS
HUGHES HAS BEEN A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND SUPPORT,
HISTORICAL INFORMATION THAT I HAVE ASKED JUST NOT BEING HERE
OR IN THE MIDST OF THE CRA PREVIOUSLY AND THANK YOU FOR ALL
THE TIME, SERVICE AND RESIDENTS OF EAST TAMPA AND THE EAST
TAMPA CRA.
THANK YOU, MISS HUGHES.
10:59:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:59:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WELL, I HAVE KNOWN MISS HUGHES A LONG TIME
AND THANK YOU TO THE SERVICE FOR EAST TAMPA RESIDENTS.
IT IS HARD AND I KNOW A LONG ROAD, BUT THANK HER FOR WHAT
SHE HAS DONE FOR THE FOLKS AND RESIDENTS.
I WANT TO THANK YOU.
I RECEIVED A CALL FROM RESIDENTS AND ONE OF YOUR BOARD
MEMBERS FROM THE JOB YOU DID THIS WEEK OF GOING TO A HOUSE
AND A SITUATION THERE AND TAKING CARE OF THAT.
MISS COPELAND PERSONALLY CALLED ME.
IF SHE DOESN'T LIKE SOMETHING, SHE WILL CALL YOU.
CALLED ME RIGHT AWAY AND SAID COUNCILMAN, MAKE SURE YOU SAY
A GOOD WORKED CEDRIC DID A GOOD JOB.
I WANT TO TELL HER I KEEP MY WORD WHAT I AM GOING TO DO.
11:00:40AM >> THANK YOU.
11:00:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
EAST TAMPA IS FINALLY ON THE MOVE.
WE GOT THE TRAIN MOVING OUT OF THE STATION A LITTLE BIT, YOU
KNOW.
I AM HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
THE RESIDENTS ARE HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
EXCITED.
THEY SEE SOME THINGS MOVING.
I TELL EVERYBODY, EAST TAMPA NOW THE BOARD IS HAVING
KNOWLEDGE OF PEOPLE OF THE SUBJECT MATTER ON THE CAC BOARD
NOW.
SO NOW THEY QUESTION THINGS, WHERE BEFORE, PEOPLE DIDN'T
QUESTION.
THEY SAID WHATEVER THE CITY SAID AND WENT ALONG WITH IT, AND
WE CAN GET THINGS DONE.
PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONING IT.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCED IN THIS AREA.
DR. BROOKINS.
A CONSERVATIVE BOARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO SHE KNOWS ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND OTHER THINGS ABOUT
THAT.
THE KABOOM! PROJECT.
EAST TAMPA ALWAYS HAS A KABOOM!
PROJECT.
OPINIONED WILLIAMS PARK WILL BE THE ONE COMING UP.
I ASKED THE ADMINISTRATION FOR SOME TYPE OF COMMEMORATION
FOR FOUR-YEAR-OLD SUNNY BELL BE PUT ON THAT KABOOM! PROJECT.
TALK OF GUN VIOLENCE SO KIDS CAN SEE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT
HAPPENENED.
THE MIND SET OF PARENTS TAKING KIDS TO THE PARK.
WE SHOULD GET A FOLLOW-UP IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS IN REFERENCE
TO THAT REQUEST.
A GREAT PROJECT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE EXACT
DATE, CEDRIC TO BE OUT THERE AND HELP BUILD THE PROJECT.
I HELPED BUILD THE ONE 30th AND OSBOURNE.
I WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT AGAIN.
11:02:05AM >> TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR A DATE IN OCTOBER.
11:02:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
BUT IF YOU GET THAT TO ME, I WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT.
THE ROOF REPAIR PROGRAM.
I SEE THAT COMING TO A MOVE.
THANK YOU, MR. ALIS TO THAT.
IN EAST TAMPA, BLUE ROOF TOPS.
NO ONE DRIVING A POLICE CAR, FIRE FIGHTER, CODE ENFORCEMENT
THAT SEE A ROOFTOP -- BUT WRITE IT DOWN AND LET US KNOW SO
WE CAN GO OUT THERE AND HELP THOSE RESIDENTS.
I THINK IT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING.
I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO APPRECIATE THAT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE POLES.
I SEE YOU WENT TO WORK WITH TECO.
FOR CHRISTMAS, HAVE THINGS -- HAVE A DIFFERENT VIBE.
THE ATMOSPHERE DIFFERENT LOOKING.
PEOPLE MORE INVOLVED AND ENGAGED.
I AM HAPPY THAT YOU DID FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND GET THAT DONE.
YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, FORWARD, PLEASE.
DISAPPOINTING ON THIS PLAN -- I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A LONG
TIME COMING AND NOW WE ARE AT A STANDSTILL AGAIN.
I AM HOMING MR. DRUMGO WE CAN KICK THAT INTO GEAR.
THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
BECAUSE IF YOU CAN KILL THAT BLIGHT, YOU CAN BRING ON NEW
JOY.
IF YOU ARE ABLE TO HELP SOME FAMILIES WITHOUT STRINGENT
CRITERIA TO HELP OUTSIDE, THAT INSIDE THAT HOUSE STAYS THERE
AND IT DOESN'T BECOME VACANT.
IT DOESN'T BECOME A DRUG HOLD.
OR IT DOESN'T BECOME A PLACE OF DESTRUCTION.
WE GOT TO GET THAT MOVING.
I THINK THAT IS CRITICAL -- CRITICAL FOR EAST -- AND FOR THE
WHOLE CITY BECAUSE THERE IS HOUSING STOCK.
AND THESE KIND OF PROGRAMS WILL HELP.
BUT A LOT OF TIMES THE CRITERIA HINDERS PEOPLE FROM GETTING
HELP OR THEY JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE HELP.
I AM HOPING WE CAN GET THAT JUMP STARTED QUICK.
I KNOW YOU HAVE TO PUT OUT AN RFP OR IN-HOUSE.
WE GOT TO GET THAT MOVING.
IT IS VERY CRITICAL.
GLAD WE GOT THE RETREAT GOING.
THAT IS VERY, VERY, VERY -- I CAN'T SAY THAT WILL HELP
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW THE CAC IS SUPPOSED TO WORK, HOW THE
SUBCOMMITTEES ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK.
AND THAT WE WON'T HAVE THIS TURN OVER OR THIS FLIP-FLOPPING
EVERY YEAR TO WHERE YOU ARE TRAINING EVERY YEAR.
AND HOPING THE BYLAW ALSO CHANGE THAT TOO BECAUSE CRUCIAL TO
HAVE CONTINUITY AND HAVEN'T HAD THAT IN A WHILE.
GET INTO PREDEVELOPMENT, WANT TO ASK MR. DRUMGO AND -- ABOUT
THAT SP CRUCIAL.
THOSE BUILDINGS I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOREVER HAVE BEEN
IN THERE ALL ALONG THE CORRIDORS.
THE CITY SHOULD BE APPROACHING THOSE PEOPLE TO SEE HOW WE
CAN GET THEM BACK IN THE CIRCULATION.
TWO OF THOSE BIG BUILDINGS CAN BE USED FOR APARTMENTS.
CAN BE USED FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT.
DETAILS ON THAT.
THE STRATEGIC APPLICATION PLAN.
I AM A LITTLE DISAPPOINT WITH THAT BUT WE NEED TO MOVE ON.
SUMMER PROGRAM.
I MEET THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE SUMMER PROGRAM.
I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT COUNCILMEMBER I WANT TO MAKE SURE I
CAN MEETS AN GREET THEM.
AND AT THE END, DON'T HAVE IT ON THE THURSDAY WHEREAS TO THE
END OF THE PROGRAM.
IT IS A PIVOTAL TO ME AND TO MEET THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE
OUT THERE WORKING TO GET INSPIRATION AND MOTIVATION TO
UNDERSTAND THE THREE Cs AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
AGAIN, GOOD PRESENTATION.
WE ARE LIVE AND NEED TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THE COAL BURNING
IN THE TRAIN.
11:05:37AM >> THANK YOU.
THE SUMMER YOUTH PRESENTATION.
ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR A TUESDAY.
I WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT EITHER BECAUSE HERE ON THIS
THURSDAY.
11:05:45AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HAVE MY HEART FOR PENNY SAVERS.
RIGHT THAT DOWN.
11:05:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE ELSE?
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:05:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
11:06:09AM >> ITEM NUMBER 7 ON THE AGENDA, THE BOARD REQUESTED
ADMINISTRATOR TRAVIS APPEAR ALONG WITH MANAGER McCRAY TO
PROVIDE A REPORT AMENDING THE EAST TAMPA CRA PLAN AND
SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVING THE GOVERNANCE WITHIN THAT
PARTICULAR CAC.
SO I WILL TAKE -- I WILL TAKE THOSE SLIDES, THANK YOU.
HERE IS YOUR MOTION.
AND JUST FOR BACKGROUND, THE CRA HAS A FORMAL BOARD POLICY
REGARDING THE ORGANIZATION AND OPERATIONS OF THE SUSPECTED
CACs
CURRENTLY ONLY EAST TAMPA AND YBOR CRAs HAVE COMMUNITY
REPRESENTED ORGANIZATIONS.
WITH EAST TAMPA ONLY WITHOUT EX-OFFICIO.
THE EAST TAMPA, THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION
PARTNERSHIP.
A BROAD.-BASED GROUP OF NEIGHBORHOOD CIVIC INSTITUTIONS THAT
HAVE INTEREST IN EAST TAMPA OVERALL.
THE CURRENT STRUCTURE OF THAT PARTICULAR CAC, THE TOTAL 13
MEMBERS.
FOUR OF THOSE -- FOUR RESIDENTS MINIMUM.
ONE FOR PROFIT.
ONE FOR BUSINESS OWNER.
ONE FOR NOT-FOR OPINION PROFIT REPRESENTATIVE.
ONE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE REST IS AT LARGE.
AND SO, I THINK THIS HAS COME BEFORE YOU AS A BOARD SEVERAL
TIMES OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS AND I WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU
WITH A COUPLE OF OPTIONS OF HOW TO ADDRESS THE GOVERNANCE.
THIS FINAL SLIDE HERE REALLY BREAKS DOWN THOSE THREE
OPTIONS.
THE FIRST OPTION IS REALLY FOR THE BOARD TO REVISE ITS
POLICY ON CACs.
SO WITH THAT REVISION, YOU CAN REQUEST THAT THE PARTNERSHIP
AMEND ITS BYLAWS THAT ALIGN WITH SOMETHING THAT IS MORE
AMENABLE TO THE -- I WOULD SAY THE REST OF THE CACs SO THEY
ALL HAVE CONSISTENT AND SIMILAR STRUCTURES.
THAT IS YOUR FIRST OPTION.
THE SECOND OPTION WOULD BE TO UPDATE THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN
AND THE WAY IT IS STRUCTURED, IT IS TETHERED TO YOUR CAC.
WHAT THE UPDATE COULD DO IS -- BASICALLY GO IN AND ATTACK
THAT GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE AND MAKE SURE THOSE TWO ENTITIES
COME OUT SEPARATE AND STAND-ALONE ENTITIES FROM ONE ANOTHER.
THE THIRD IS REALLY FOR THE CRP TO ADVISE ITS OWN BYLAWS
WHICH IT CAN DO WITH TWO THIRD-MEMBER VOTES.
AND THAT WILL PROBABLY BE THE MOST CHALLENGING TO GET
THE CRP TO DO THAT ON ITS OWN.
WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THREE OPTIONS AND FROM A STAFF
RECOMMENDATION DIDN'T, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE BEST WAY TO
PROBABLY GO ABOUT IT A WHY UP DATE THE PLAN AND CHANGING OF
GOVERNANCE ONE OF THOSE KEY FEATURES YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE
AS AN OUTCOME.
YOU CAN DO THAT AND MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.
THE CAC ALREADY VOTED TO UPDATE THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN EVEN
SNOW WE HAVE AN SAP UPDATE FOR YOU TODAY.
AND THAT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN UPDATE AND FOCUSED ON THE CHANGE
IN GOVERNANCE OR THE GOVERNING STRUCTURE CAN BE A MORE
FAVORABLE I DON'T OUT COME.
AND CONSULTANTS CAN TALK TO THE GROUPS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT
IS AMENABLE TO THE COMMUNITY AND CAC AND TO THE COMMUNITY
REALLY TO MAKE SURE REPRESENTATION IS SUFFICIENT.
I WILL STOP AND ASK FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:09:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
11:09:51AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I LIKE OPTION TWO.
THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY HAS SAT ON THAT BOARD AND HAD TO
UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PARTNERSHIP AND THE
BOARD.
IT WAS TOTALLY CONFUSING.
TOTALLY CONFUSING.
PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THEIR ROLES AND WHAT LANE THEY NEED
TO BE IN.
WE HAVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
TOTAL CHAOS.
I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYBODY BUT CHAOTIC AT TIMES.
NEW PEOPLE COMING IN AND DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CHAIN OF
COMMAND -- OR ASSUME OF THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.
IT IS VERY DIFFICULT AND I HAVE BEEN TO SEVERAL MEETINGS AND
THEY ARE GETTING BETTER, BUT THE MERE FACT OF -- THE
BICKERING.
A LOT OF THAT.
BECAUSE YOU -- IT'S -- IT'S REALLY CONFUSING EVERYBODY.
AND I THINK FOR ME I WOULD PUT A MOTION TO THAT TO LOOK THEM
TO G GET TO UPDATE THE PLAN.
I THINK THAT IS NEEDED.
11:10:53AM >> SECOND.
11:10:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CHAOTIC -- HEY, BETTER WAY TO SAY IT.
BUT PEOPLE HERE -- AND WITH -- WITH UPDATING THE PLAN AND
HAVING THE RETREAT WILL BE ABLE TO GET IT ALL IN LINE.
AND WITH WHY YOU ARE BYLAWS, EVERYTHING IN LINE TO WHERE IT
WILL BE MORE FUNCTIONAL COMPARED TO DYSFUNCTIONAL AND HAVE
PEOPLE HAPPY COMING TO THE MEETINGS THAN NOT.
AND THEN -- I WILL BE CANDID, ALSO THE VOTING PROCESS AT
THOSE MEETINGS.
PEOPLE COMING IN LATE OR PEOPLE LEARNING EARLY BEFORE A VOTE
CAN BE TAKEN AND NOW YOU DON'T HAVE A QUORUM TO VOTE ON
ITEMS.
THAT IS A CHALLENGE.
WHAT ONE PERSON LIKES AND YOU STILL HAVE ITEMS TO VOTE ON.
AND THEN SUPREME LEFT THE MEETING AND YOU CAN'T VOTE.
IT IS FACTUAL.
IT IS FACTUAL.
I HAVE BEEN THERE AND SEEN IT.
I SAT ON BOARDS WHERE IT HAS HAPPENED.
I THINK THE UPDATE IS GOOD AND ALSO EN CORPORATE SOMETHING
IN THERE TO HAVE A BETTER FUNCTIONING BOARD.
MISS TATE IS DOING A GOOD JOB.
THE OTHER CHAIR FOLKS HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB AS WELL WHO HAVE
BEEN THE CHAIR, BUT YOU GOT ALL THE OTHER FORCES THAT YOU
HAVE TO FIGHT WITH.
AND GOING HERE AND THERE WITH NO IDEAS.
I THINK IT WILL HELP THE MANAGER A LITTLE BIT BETTER AS
WELL.
SO I -- THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR.
MR. CARLSON SECONDED IT ALREADY.
MADAM CHAIR.
11:12:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:12:30AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE JUST SAID.
OVER THE YEARS, I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY TO EITHER SIT IN AND LISTEN TO THESE MEETINGS, AND
THEY WERE VERY CONFUSING.
AND I THINK STAFF WAS CONFUSED.
SO SOME EXTENT, STAFF DIDN'T GIVE THEM THE RESOURCES THEY
NEEDED EITHER.
I THINK WE HAVE FIXED THAT AND WE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE COME
OUT AND COMPLAIN.
WE HAD SIMILAR ISSUES IN YBOR, AND THERE IS -- THERE IS THE
CONFUSION IN THE STRUCTURE.
CONFUSION WHO IS IN CHARGE AND ABOUT BRAND AND IN YBOR WE
HAVE MOVED THE BRAND OVER.
I WISH WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE OTHER BRAND
SO NO LINGERING CONFUSION.
I THINK WE SHOULD SUNSET IT AND PUT THE $20,000 FOR THE.
PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT WITH THE CRA.
AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
AND WE NEED LIKE THE SIGNS.
AND I DON'T THINK THEY SAY CRA BIG ENOUGH.
AND WE NEED TO EXPLAIN THIS IS WHERE YOUR CRA IS GOING.
THIS IS HOW WE ARE SPEND IT.
THE OTHER THING IS THE ELECTION PROCESS.
AND THE IMPORTANT OF BOARD MEMBERS.
MASSIVE CONFUSION.
MASSIVE DISAGREEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY THE WAY IT HAS BEEN IN
THE PAST AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
ANYBODY WHO HAS ATTENDED A BOARD -- A MEETING IN THE PAST IS
ELIGIBLE TO VOTE, BUT THEN THERE HAS BEEN CONFUSION WHO OWNS
THE LIST.
WHO QUALIFIES.
WHO CAN VOTE.
AND THEN CAMPAIGNING IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THERE ARE THESE FACTIONS THAT FIGHT EACH OTHER.
WE SAW THEM ALL COME TOGETHER, BY THE WAY, TO COMPLAIN ABOUT
HOW THE CRA WAS WORK WITH THEM.
WE NEED TO END THAT AND BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER
INSTEAD.
AND I THINK IN WHATEVER WE DO, NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO.
BUT WE NEED TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM OF HOW PEOPLE ARE PICKED
FOR THE BOARD.
AND IT -- IT SHOULDN'T RESULT IN DIVISION OF THE COMMUNITY.
SHOULD SOMEHOW BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
AND IT SHOULD BE CLEARLY STATED THAT THE PROBLEM THE WAY THE
STRUCTURE IS RIGHT NOW IS THAT -- IN THE PAST, THE STAFF
MEMBERS WERE ASSISTING, BUT THEY WEREN'T IN CHARGE OF TH
PROCESS.
SO WE ALL GOT BLAMED FOR THE PROCESS EVEN THOUGH WE
TECHNICALLY, LEGALLY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
SO I WANTED TO CLEAN UP THAT PROCESS AS PART OF THIS AS
WELL.
THANK YOU.
11:15:03AM >> MAY I --
11:15:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
11:15:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I JUST NEED TO PUT IN MY TWO CENTS.
COMING FROM MY BACKGROUND WITH THE CRA IN YBOR CITY.
WE TAKE THE ROCK -- WE KNOW THE WRESTLER, THE ROCK.
WE KNOW HIS FAMOUS LINE, KNOW YOUR ROLE.
I HAVE NO SENSE OF ANY CRA, BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR
ROLE IS, HOW CAN YOU COMPLETE YOUR ROLE?
HOW CAN YOU ADD YOUR WISDOM, YOUR KNOWLEDGE?
I GO TO SEVERAL CRA MEETINGS.
I HAVE BEEN TO WEST TAMPA MEETINGS.
I HAVE BEEN TO EAST TAMPA MEETINGS.
I.
THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF IDENTIFICATION ON WHAT YOUR
ROLE IS, WHETHER IT IS A COMMITTEE MEMBER, WHETHER IT IS A
BOARD MEMBER.
WHAT TIMES YOU ARE EXPECTED TO BE THERE HOW YOU VOTE.
AGAIN, IT IS JUST FROM MY BACKGROUND WITH THE CRA I WORKED
WITH FOR ALMOST EIGHT YEARS.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
11:16:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:16:15AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, I JUST GOT HERE.
I GOT ON THE INTERSTATE ON I-75, 7:55 AND 8 A.M.
I JUST GOT HERE.
A DOUBLE FATALITY THAT AND 200 AND I WAS STUCK ON THE
INTERSTATE STUCK TWO AND A HALF HOURS.
NEVER HAVE THAT HAPPEN JUST TO EXPLAIN MY ABSENCE.
THANK YOU.
11:16:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMEMBER -- I
AM SORRY BOARD MEMBER -- CAN YOU REPEAT THE MOTION?
11:16:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE MOTION WILL BE TO GO WITH OPTION NUMBER
TWO.
ALONG WITH THE RETREAT AND BYLAWS TO BE ADDED IN THE UPDATE.
11:16:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WAS SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:17:06AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:17:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:17:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I AM SO SORRY.
I JUST GOT IN.
WHAT -- CAN WE EXPLAIN --
11:17:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ON ITEM NUMBER 7.
11:17:17AM >>LUIS VIERA:
JUST APPROVING.
11:17:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE ARE CHOOSING OPTION TO UPDATE THE
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
11:17:24AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
STAFF PRESENTED THREE OPTIONS FOR THE BOARD
TO CONSIDER ABOUT HOW TO CONSIDER THE POTENTIAL GOVERNMENT
ISSUES AND THE POSSIBLE RESTRUCTURES OF HOW THE EAST TAMPA
CAC IS STRUCTURED.
WHAT THE CURRENT MOTION BEFORE THE BOARD IS OPTION NUMBER --
OPTION NUMBER 2, TO REVIEW AND COME UP WITH SUGGESTIONS OF
HOW TO REVISE THE GOVERNANCE ISSUE THROUGH THE UPDATE AND
THE REWRITE OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR EAST
TAMPA CRA WHICH IS WITHIN THEIR --
11:18:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL TRUST THE MAKER.
11:18:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
CAN I SAY SOMETHING.
THIS IS NOT UNIQUE.
ALL OF THE CRAS ARE STRUCTURED THE SAME WAY, AM I CORRECT?
TO SOME DEGREE.
PEOPLE WANT TO BE BOARD MEMBERS, THEY GET VOTED IN.
WE DON'T MAKE THE CHOICE.
11:18:19AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
SO YOU UNDERSTAND WE ARE TALKING OF THE
CACs.
THE ADVISORY COMMITTEES FOR EACH OF THE AREAS.
OF YOUR EIGHT CRAs, CACs THAT YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED, BY
POLICY, THE SLATE ACTUALLY COMES BEFORE YOU ACTUAL APPROVE.
11:18:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
RIGHT.
11:18:38AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
EXCEPT FOR -- TWO EXCEPTIONS, THE TWO
EXCEPTIONS ARE EAST TAMPA AND YBOR.
THE CAC FOR YBOR IS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE YDDC.
AND THE CAC FOR EAST TAMPA IS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE
EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP -- REVITALIZATION PARTNERSHIP.
SO THEY ARE -- THEY ARE SELECTED TEMPORARILY.
NOW YOU DO HAVE TO GIVE FINAL -- YOUR FINAL BLESSING TO
SLATE OF CANDIDATES AND BOARD MEMBERS.
NOT SOMETHING THAT FORMALLY COMES BEFORE YOU AND THE OTHER
CACs HAVE DESIGNATED SPOTS.
EX-OFFICIO FOR NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND THAT HAVE AN INTEREST
IN THE AREA.
11:19:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
APPROVE VOTES NO MATTER WHAT AREA YOU ARE
IN.
11:19:31AM >> YES, SIR.
11:19:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE SAME THING IN A WAY?
11:19:35AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
IN A WAY.
THIS BOARD HAS NEVER NOT APPROVED THE DIRECTION BY THE YDCD
BOARD OR THE WEST TAMPA FOLKS.
11:19:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LET ME ASK ANOTHER QUESTION, IF I MAY,
MADAM CHAIR.
WHAT I HAVE HEARD AND I HAVE BEEN SILENT, JUST LISTENING.
ANYTHING ON THE RECORD IF YOU MISS SO MANY VOTES YOU ARE
OUT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW.
THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT.
THEY ARE ALL THE SAME
11:20:01AM >> THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
BOARD MEMBER, I WILL TELL THAT YOU EAST TAMPA THEY HAVE
PROVISIONS IN THERE FOR MISSING MEETINGS, BUT I WILL SAY
THAT IT IS VERY SCARCE.
CURRENTLY IN ORDER TO VOTE IN THE ELECTIONS, THE PARTNERSHIP
MEMBERS ONLY NEED TO ATTEND TWO MEETINGS.
THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AT THE LAST CAC MEETING TO TWEAK
THAT, AND PRETTY -- I WOULD CALL IT ASSERTIVE.
THE FOLKS DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO SAY TEND MORE MEETINGS
DESPITE THE FACT THEY HAVE 93 OPPORTUNITIES TO ATTEND THE
MEETINGS.
THEY ONLY HAVE TO ATTEND TWO OF THOSE TO CHOOSE THE CAC
MEMBERS.
93 MEETINGS, SUBCOMMITTEE, REGULAR MEETINGS.
11:20:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HOW DO YOU SOLVE THAT WITHOUT CHANGING
THE PROCESS.
11:20:52AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
THE CONCEPT TO ASK THE CONSULTANTS OF A PLAN TO COME UP WITH
SUGGESTIONS OF HOW THAT PROCESS COULD BE CHANGED.
11:21:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF WE CHANGE THE PROCESS AND HAVE THE
SAME PEOPLE, WHAT CHANGES?
11:21:06AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK -- I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IN CASE IS
THAT -- OKAY, THE OTHER CACs, SOMEBODY NOMINATES THEM AND WE
APPROVE THEM AND THEY GO ON.
WE HAVE DIRECT CONTROL.
WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS THAT MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, THEY
DON'T HAVE TO SIT ON THE BOARD AND JUST BE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMUNITY.
THEY GO TO TWO MEETINGS AND ELIGIBLE TO VOTE.
THE COMMUNITY VOTES EVERYBODY IN AND THEN WE ARE GIVING AND
THE REASON WHY WE WOULD NEVER UNDO THAT BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T
WANT TO GO AGAINST THE COMMUNITY AND ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF
FACTIONS AND DISAGREEMENT BECAUSE OF THAT PROCESS AND WE
THINK EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CLEAN
IT UP SO THERE IS NO MORE ARGUING.
11:21:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
11:21:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DRUMGO.
I HEARD ABOUT IT.
MR. McCRAY, I HEARD ABOUT THAT.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MANY MEETINGS THERE WERE.
BUT I AM GOING TO TELL YOU TO HAVE 93 MEETINGS A YEAR AND
ONLY ATTEND TWO?
THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON TO BE ABLE TO VOTE
GOING TO TWO MEETINGS.
YOU ARE GO -- SOMEBODY WITH THE VOTE -- YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF
THE WORK BEING PUT IN AND YOU ARE VOTING A CERTAIN WAY.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CRAZY TO ME.
I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL NEED TO
CHANGE.
I JUST WON'T TOLERATE THAT.
93 MEETINGS AND ONLY ATTEND TWO AND YOU CAN VOTE TO CHANGE
WHATEVER, WHATEVER.
SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN ON THE TABLE FROM A YEAR PREVIOUS TO
-- THAT IS A PROBLEM.
WILL BE MAKING THINGS -- ROADBLOCKS.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
THAT HAS GOT TO CHANGE.
CONTINUITY IN PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY VESTED IN THE BOARD,
VESTED IN THE PROJECTS.
NOT LIKE WE WANT TO BE ON THERE BECAUSE I WANT MY WAY AND
NOT GETTING THAT PROJECT DONE.
YOU GOT TO HAVE PEOPLE INVESTED AND COMMITMENT.
THIS COMMITMENT HERE.
IF YOU MISS ANY MEETINGS.
SOMEBODY WILL SAY THEY DON'T NEED TO BE ON THIS BOARD
ANYMORE.
I WANT SOME COMMITMENT WITH THAT.
11:22:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MADAM CHAIR.
WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO ATTEND THE MEETING SITTING IN THE
BACK.
POSSIBLE TO GET A 30-SECOND FEEDBACK WHETHER THEY AGREE OR
DISAGREE.
11:23:08AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
IF YOU WOULD WANT THAT, YOU WOULD WAIVE
YOUR RULES TO ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
11:23:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:23:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A VOTE.
DO YOU WANT TO FINISH THE VOTE AND THEN LISTEN OR STOP THE
VOTE.
11:23:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHATEVER YOU DECIDE, MADAM CHAIR.
11:23:24AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU WANT TO STOP THE VOTE.
11:23:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY STOP THE VOTE.
AND -- CAN WE DO THAT AND REVOTE?
11:23:32AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
OR YOU CAN TABLE THE MOTION UNTIL YOU HEARD
FROM THE INDIVIDUAL.
11:23:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A -- I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE BY BOARD
MEMBER GUDES AND SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE THAT MOTION TO WAIVE --
11:23:49AM >> WAIVE THE RULES.
11:23:50AM >> SECOND.
11:23:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES
TO WAIVE THE RULES AND A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:24:00AM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
11:24:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LET'S PUT A MOTION.
11:24:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WILL VOTE YES ON BOTH.
11:24:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE FORS ONE.
SORRY.
ALL IN FAVOR.
AND THE SECOND ONE, ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE.
11:24:15AM >> GOOD MORNING, ALISON HEWITT.
I SIT ON THE EVALUATION AND PLANNING COMMITTEE.
WHEN CHARM TATE BECAME CHAIR, PUT CLINT HARRIS ANOTHER CAC
MEMBER AS CHAIRMAN OF THE CAC.
WE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE BYLAWS.
PRETTY MUCH A DISASTER.
IF YOU HAVE FOLKS WHO DON'T ATTEND THE MEETING AS CAC
MEMBERS, THE ONLY RECOURSE YOU HAVE IS TO BE ABLE TO SEND A
LETTER SAYING PLEASE SEND THE MEETING.
SO NO WARNING.
NO ABLE TO RETHE -- TO REMOVE THE PERSON -- THE PEOPLE WHO
MAY KEEP YOU FROM DOING A QUORUM.
WE HAVE BEEN SPEND A LOT OF TIME GOING OVER THE BYLAWS AND
ONE OF THE MANY CHALLENGES THAT YOU HAVE BEEN DESCRIBE
SOMETHING CONTINUITY.
WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PROJECTS.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE ATTENDANCE OR YOU HAVE FOLKS TO WHO SAY
WE ARE NOT GOING TO TALK OF THE PROJECTS BECAUSE OF ELECTION
BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE POTENTIALLY SIX NEW PEOPLE.
AND YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR A PRESENTATION THAT WILL COME
IN JUNE AND SAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING UNTIL AFTER
THE ELECTION BECAUSE A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE, NEW FOLKS TO
EDUCATE ABOUT THE PROCESS OR THE PROJECT.
I WILL SAY THAT THE -- THAT THE EVALUATION AND PLANNING
COMMITTEE IS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO -- TO WORK WITH STAFF
ON CHANGING IT BECAUSE THEY ARE INCONSISTENCIES OF THE
PARTNERSHIP AND THE CAC BYLAWS.
THE CAC GOES TO MEETING DOESN'T HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING
WHICH BYLAWS ARE GOVERNING THE PROJECTS THEY ARE TALKING
ABOUT.
A MISUNDERSTANDING WHO GETS TO VOTE AT A PARTNERSHIP MEETING
AND HOW YOU VOTE AT THE PARTNERSHIP MEETING.
AND SO WE HAVE THIS SWELL OF INTEREST AND MORE PEOPLE
ATTENDING MEETINGS.
AS MORE PEOPLE ARE ATTENDING MEETINGS, THEY ARE GETTING
FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THE RULES, THE ROLES, THE UNDERSTANDING
IS UNCLEAR.
SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO, AS A MEMBER OF EVALUATION AND
PLANNING, OF THOSE 93 MEETINGS, I PROBABLY GO TO 80 OF THEM
A YEAR.
I DEFINITELY AGREE WE HAD A VERY ENERGETIC DISCUSSION AT THE
COMMITTEE BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE ACTUALLY SAID EIGHT
MEETINGS.
AND THEN AT THE CAC WENT DOWN TO SIX AND FOUR AND YOU DON'T
KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE DOING AND CAN'T ATTEND THE
MEETINGS AND WE HAVE REAL WORLD ISSUES THAT WE ARE DEALING
WITH AND WOULD LIKE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE AND VOTE.
AND MORE THAN TWO MEET ALSO NOT GIVE YOU ENOUGH INFORMATION
ON WHO WAS ACTIVE, WHO IS MAKING THE PRESENTATIONS, WHO I
INVESTING.
AND QUITE HONESTLY, WE HAVE CONTRACTOR WHO ARE NOT TAKING
CARE OF -- OF THE PEOPLE HOUSE THAT WERE CONTRACTED THROUGH
THE CITY TO DO WORK.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE NOT PARTICIPATING.
IF YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO THE MEETINGS, YOU CAN COME IN TO
THE TWO MEETINGS AND SOMEONE CAN SAY TO YOU, YOU HAVE BEEN
TO TWO MEETINGS AND NEED TO YOU VOTE ON THIS.
WE ARE NOT MAKING IT BASED ON TO SEE ALL THE WORK THAT
PEOPLE ARE PUTTING IN.
WE HAVE A GROUP OF FOLKS TO ARE THERE COMING TO COMMITTEE
MEETINGS.
SIGNING ON.
THAT IS ONE THING I WILL SAY IF I CAN PUT A SHAMELESS PLUG.
IF WE CAN ALSO PUT IN OUR BUDGET TO INVEST IN SOME
TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF SENIORS WHO PARTICIPATE.
AND THEY ARE NOT COMFORTABLE COMING TO THE MEETINGS AND A
HARD TIME FOR THE TEAMS FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO HEAR.
WE WILL HAVE EVEN MORE CONVERSATION ONCE WE CONNECT FOR OUR
SENIORS.
IN EAST TAMPA, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT SENIOR POPULATION AND
THANK GOD HER ACTIVE.
MY 30 SECOND OR A LITTLE BIT MORE SP IEL AS A PARTNER IN THE
EAST TAMPA CAC.
11:28:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, I AM KEELA McCASKILL AND I SERVE ON
THE COMMITTEE FOR MEMBERSHIP AND OUTREACH.
AND I SUPPORT THE REVISIONS AS MANY AS POSSIBLE.
IT IS DOWNRIGHT EMBARRASSING TO HAVE YOU AT THE MEETING AND
HALF OF THEM ARE NOT THERE.
YOU DON'T HAVE A QUORUM AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
OR PEOPLE COME IN AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
IT IS VERY CONFUSING.
DRAW PEOPLE WITH INTEREST.
TO SEE THAT THE PEOPLE REPRESENTING IS ALSO VESTED AND THEY
ARE PARTICIPATING, ENGAGING AND KNOWLEDGEABLE AT THE SAME
TIME.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE THAN TWO.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE ATTEND TWO MEET INFORMATION ORDER TO VOTE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE REVISIONS.
ONE THING -- MAYBE THIS IS NOT THE PLACE BUT I WILL MENTION
THIS.
ONE OF THE REASONS WE ARE LOSING SUCH A KEY STAFF MEMBER IN
THE EAST TAMPA CAC IS BECAUSE THEY ARE OVERWORKED.
I HEARD 93 MEETINGS.
I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I AM PROBABLY AT 90.
I DIDN'T THINK OF THE STAFF BEING PRESENT AT EVERY SINGLE
MEETING.
93 SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THEY ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE THE
REVISION RIGHT ALONG WITH THE REST OF THIS.
MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE THERE.
MAYBE TECHNOLOGY THAT SHE JUST MENTIONED.
IF IT IS THERE AND THE MEETING IS RECORDED.
WE DON'T NEED THE STAFF THERE.
THEY HAVE CHILDREN.
THEY HAVE LIVES.
THEY DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR 93 MEETINGS.
I KNOW THEY HAVE A JOB TO DO, BUT I THINK THAT IS A BIT
EXCESSIVE.
IF WE CAN MAKE THAT REVISION WHILE WE ARE DOING THAT, IF
POSSIBLE.
WE DON'T NEED STAFF OF PRESENT AT ALL 93 SUBCOMMITTEE
MEETINGS.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HAVE 93 A MONTH -- AS MANY
MEETINGS.
MAY NEED TO CUT THAT IN HALF.
SOMETHING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AND ALSO THE
STAFF BECAUSE THEY ARE PEOPLE.
NOT ROBOTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE REVISIONS AND I SUPPORT THE CHANGE,
THANK YOU.
11:30:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THOSE 92 MEETINGS, TAKE OUT THE VACATION TIME AND HOLIDAYS,
THAT IS TWO MEETINGS A WEEK.
NOT ONLY THAT, YOU BREAK UP TWO DIFFERENT -- YOU HAVE
SOMETIMES THREE TO FOUR MEETINGS A WEEK.
I DON'T SEE HOW ANYONE WHO WANTS TO PARTICIPATE CAN ATTEND
92 MEETINGS.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A FAMILY AND LOOK AROUND WHAT IS
GOING ON IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ATTEND 92 MEETINGS.
ESPECIALLY YOU ARE VOLUNTEERING AND TRYING TO DO THE BEST
FOR YOUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
MAKE IT COME UP.
SUCCESS HAS BEEN OUR FAILURE.
11:30:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO REVIVE YOUR MOTION?
11:31:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IT IS CLEAR.
THE UPDATE TO -- UPDATE THE COMMUNITY PLANS AND BYLAWS FOR
AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE ORGANIZATION.
11:31:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
11:31:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
BOARD MEMBER GUDES MADE A MOTION AND BOARDMEMBER CARLSON
SECONDED.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:31:23AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:31:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:31:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:31:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
11:31:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES, 92 TIMES.
11:31:29AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
11:31:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:31:32AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUS ME.
11:31:35AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I ASK STAFF -- WINS IS HE WENT INTO THIS
LONG DISCUSSION OF EAST TAMPA.
IT IS DIFFERENT.
SHOULD MAKE A SIMILAR MOTION FOR YBOR.
IF WE FIX THIS ONE, YBOR WILL BE THE ONLY OUTLIER.
11:31:49AM >> I WOULD SAY WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH THE
CAC FIRST IF THAT IS THE DESIRE THAT WAY.
THEY CAN AT LEAST BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN SIMILAR TO THE WAY
EAST TAMPA CAC WEIGHED IN ON THAT MATTER CHERYL CHERYL DO WE
NEED A MOTION.
11:32:05AM >> WE WILL GO BACK AND DO IT.
11:32:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GREAT.
11:32:07AM >> ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 8 ON THE AGENDA.
AT OUR JUNE MEETING, I BELIEVE, THAT THE BOARD ASKED FOR A
REPORT ON AVAILABLE LANDS IN EAST TAMPA CRA.
THIS WAS GEARED MORE TOWARD AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I KNOW SOME FOLKS HAVE ASKED FOR THIS LIST AS WELL, AND I
SUBMIT A KEEP OF THIS LIST FOR THE RECORD, AN UPDATED MEMO
WITH A BREAKDOWN OF THE AVAILABLE LAND.
YOU ALL HAVE A COPY AND I SUBMITTED A COPY FOR THE CLERK AS
WELL FOR THE RECORD.
I WON'T BE LONG WINDED WITH THIS.
A PRETTY EXTENSIVE LIST.
AND LASTER THAN JUST GIVE YOU THE PROPERTIES LISTED IN
THE CRA AND EAST TAMPA.
I BROKE IN DOWN IN A COUPLE OF WAYS FOR YOU.
YOUR FIRST TABLE AND I DON'T HAVE IT FOR THE ELMO BUT
SEVERAL SHEETS OF PAPER.
BUT THE FIRST PAGE HERE THAT YOU SEE -- IT'S A LIST OF
APPROXIMATELY 23 LOTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY.
THEY ARE TIED WITH SOME TYPE OF H CRA FUNDING.
AND YOU ALL CAN LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN OF THOSE LOTS.
IF HE CAN TIF I HAVE ITLY IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE FAR
RIGHT COLUMN THAT WILL SHOW YOU IF ANY ADDITIONAL ACTION IS
NEEDED ON THAT PROPERTY TO DETERMINE IF IT IS BUILDABLE.
WE WANTED AN IDEA WHAT WE CAN GO OUT AND DEVELOP RIGHT NOW
WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL ZONING ACTION OR JUST
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE SUITABILITY OF THAT PROBABILITY
FOR DEVELOPMENT RIGHT-OF-WAY.
AND SO WESTERN YOU LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT TABLE, 23
TOTAL PROPERTIES.
NINE OF THOSE PROPERTIES WITH A NO NEXT TO THEM MEANS THERE
IS NO ADDITIONAL ACTION NEEDED.
THOSE PROPERTIES ARE NEEDED TO GO FOR IMMEDIATE DEVELOPMENT.
AND FOR SECOND TABLE ARE PROPERTIES NOT FUNDED BY THE CRA.
THE LIST SHOWS YOU WHAT PROBABILITIES MAY NEED ADDITIONAL
APPLICATIONS SO ALL OF THOSE THAT SAY NO.
27 LOTS THAT DON'T REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL ACTION.
THOSE PROPERTIES ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN THE CRA BUT
HAVE NO CRA FUNDING TIED TO THEM.
AND THE FINAL TABLE THAT YOU SEE ARE THOSE PROPERTIES THAT
WITHIN THE CRA, BUT THEY ALSO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL ACTION.
TO DETERMINE THE FEASIBILITY, BUILDABILITY OF THOSE PARCELS.
AND I SEE THE BOARD MEMBER WITH HIS HAND UP.
11:34:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU KNOW WHAT I AM LOOKING AT A FAILURE ON
OUR PART.
WE HAVE THIS AMERICAN PROPERTIES AND THE CRA -- AND HOW LONG
IN EAST TAMPA.
WITH SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT ALL THESE PROPERTIES.
THEY SHOULD BE IN CIRCULATION.
I AM NOT PUTTING THE BLAME ON PAST AND WHATEVER -- THIS IS
THE FUTURE NOW.
WE CAN'T LET THIS GO.
THIS HAS GOT TO GET IN CIRCULATION.
THESE ARE A LOT OF PROPERTIES, MAN.
I LOOK AT 22nd STREET.
THIS IS ALL IN THE DEEP CORE THE DEEP CORE.
SOME OF THEM NEED TO BE REHAB.
DEMOED.
IF THEY HAVE CODE VIOLATIONS.
BUT THEY NEED TO BE IN CIRCULATION.
THESE ARE A LOT OF PROPERTIES.
AND I THINK THE CRA BOARD NEEDS TO LOOK AT THIS AND LOOKING
AT HOW WE CAN HELP.
WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.
THIS IS A LOT -- THESE ARE A LOT OF PROPERTIES.
11:35:45AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
ARE ALL THESE PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE CITY?
11:35:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THEY ARE ALL CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES.
11:35:51AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
ALL CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES.
11:35:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THEY ARE IN OUR CONTROL AND EAST TAMPA HAS
BEEN HOLD THIS FOR MANY YEARS.
WE SHOULD BE DEALING WITH REAL ESTATE AND THE CITY PORTION
TO SEE HOW WE CAN GET THESE BACK INTO CIRCULATION.
I STILL SAYS IT STILL UNACCEPTABLE.
AND WE GOT TO MOVE ON THIS.
THESE ARE A LOT OF PROPERTIES.
11:36:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:36:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DON'T CARE IF HE GOES FIRST OR I GO
SECOND.
11:36:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HE WAS ASKING.
11:36:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THIS BOARD ASKED FOR THIS TWO OR THREE
WEEKS AGO AND THE RESULT OF WHAT WE ASKED FOR.
AND I AM JUST LOOKING AT IT.
AND I AM GLAD THAT THE CRA -- THE CITY, NOT THE CITY, ABOUT
-- HAS CONTROL OF SOME OF THE PROPERTIES TO BUILD ON.
SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE THE -- THE LOTS ARE NOT
ACCORDING TO OUR ZONING CODE; HOWEVER, SOME LOTS LIKE 18 AND
19 THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
YOU CAN MAKE IT INTO ONE AND HAVE A BUILDABLE LOT.
AND IN SOME CASES EVEN A SMALLER LOT YOU CAN STILL BUILD A
HOUSE FOR ONE BIG ROOM AND SOME A TWO BEDROOM AND MEET THE
QUALIFICATIONS TO HAVE A HOME.
AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED.
WE ARE IN DIRE NEED OF GETTING THIS THING STARTED.
AND EVEN SOME OF THESE LOTS WERE 4,000 -- OR WHATEVER.
DEPENDING ON THE FIXTURE CAN'T BE TWO INCHES WIDE AND THREE
MILES LONG FOR THE SIZE OF THE LOT.
THOSE THAT HAVE SOMETHING COMPARABLE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE AT
LEAST A SETBACK REQUIREMENT, WE CAN BUILD ON.
AND BECAUSE WE NEED HOUSING.
IT IS NOT GOING FOR TOMORROW.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
11:37:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:37:34AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU SAID ALL THE PROPERTIES ON THE LIST ARE
CONTROLLED BY THE CITY.
EVEN IF THE CRA PAID FOR THEM, THEY ARE ALL UNDER THE CITY.
11:37:42AM >> THEY ARE ALL UNDER THE CITY'S PAYROLL, YES.
11:37:45AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE THING WE CAN DO OR YOU CAN SUGGESTED
SUGGEST THAT WE ASK THE CITY IT SHALL WE CAN DO SOMETHING ON
THE OTHER SIDE, ASK THE CITY TO PUT THEM IMMEDIATELY ON THE
LAND TRUST AN PUT THEM OUT FOR A BID FOR 99-YEAR LEASES.
IF THEY ARE DEVELOPER.
IF THEY ARE EXISTING HOMES, THEN WE WOULD WANT TO RENOVATE
THEM AND PUT THEM BACK ON THE MARKET AND MAYBE THE CRA CAN
HELP WITH THAT.
DEVELOPER FOR MORE THAN ONE UNIT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE A
BROADLY ADVERTISED RFP THAT THE CITY WILL HANDLE.
AND WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST SOME RFPs PRESIDENT IN THIS
ADMINISTRATION, BUT SOME RFP -- FEW YEARS AGO AN RFP FOR
THREE EMPTY LOTS TO GIVE THEM AWAY FOR FREE AND ONLY ONE
BIDDER AND I ASKED PEOPLE LIKE HABITAT AND CDC, THEY SAID
THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT NATIONAL PRIVATE DEVELOPERS OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSE WOOING LOVE TO COME IN IF THEY KNEW WHAT
THE OPPORTUNITIES WAS AND BRING OPPORTUNITIES.
AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF A LAND TRUST WITH A 99-YEAR LEASE AND
SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE SOMEONE ELSE CAN EXTEND THEM AND WE
STILL HAVE CONTROL AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR US -- EASIER FOR
THEM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T NEED TO GO GET AS BIG OF A MORTGAGE
TO PAY FOR IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW, MORRIS, IF YOU -- OR MAYBE FROM THE FPRA
IF CRAS HAVE A LAND TRUST.
IF FOR SOME REASON THE CITY CANNOT MOVE FAST ENOUGH LOOKING
AT SETTING UP A CRA LAND TRUST AND BUY PROPERTIES FROM THE
CITY AND PUT THEM IN A LAND TRUST AND PUT THEM FOR A 99-YEAR
LEASE.
11:39:34AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
MR. DRUMGO IS LOOKING FOR CRA FOR THE CITY
OR BOTH.
HE IS LOOKING AT SETTING THAT UP MAKING THAT MOVE AS A
POTENTIAL VEHICLE
I CAN TELL YOU WHETHER WE SELL, LEASE OR CONVEY PROPERTY
INTEREST.
REGARDLESS WHETHER CRA MONEY WAS INVOLVED WITH THE PROPERTY
OR CITY-OWNED PROPERTY WITHIN A CRA, WE ARE REQUIRED BY LATE
LAW TO ADVERTISE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL.
11:39:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND NOT IN
ADMINISTRATION, THEY WOULD ADVERTISE IN SOME SMALL AD TO
MEET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT AND OTHER DEVELOPERS DIDN'T KNOW
IT.
THAT IS HOW SO MUCH PROPERTY FOR YEARS SOLD UNDER MARKET AND
DEVELOPERS OF ALL SIZES SAY WE DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THAT.
NOT JUST REACH THE BASIC LEGAL REQUIREMENT THAT WE NEED TO
PROMOTE IT.
WE CAN'T JUST PUT IT ON SOME STATE LIST OR NATIONAL LIST OR
ADVERTISE IT IN SOME OBSCURE PLACE.
AND WE SHOULD GET A LARGER LIST OF AFFORDABLE HOME
DEVELOPERS TO INCLUDE THE NONPROFITS, THE FOR PROFITS, AND
OTHERS NATIONALLY THAT CAN COULD AM IN.
WE NEED TO BRING EVERY RESOURCE WE POSSIBLY CAN.
A RESOURCE WE ARE SITTING ON THAT CAN HELP SUBSIDIZE
BUILDING MORE HOUSING FAST AND THE CRA CAN'T BUILD ALL OF
THESE QUICKLY AND WE NEED TO PARTNER WITH PARTNERS OUTSIDE
TO GET IT DONE.
11:40:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
11:40:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRPERSON.
TO MR. CARLSON'S POINT, WE NEED MORE HOUSING.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SOME ARE A DIFFERENT SIZE THAT WILL NOT
BE ABLE TO FIT IN THE BUILDABLE LOT SIZE.
DREW PARK ONE 7200 SQUARE FEET.
HOW CAN WE, AS A CRA BOARD, IF TALK TO PERMITTING AND TALK
TO PEOPLE SO WE CAN TAKE THAT 7200 SQUARE FEET AND PUT TWO
SMALLER HOUSES ON IT TO GET MORE FOR OUR BANG OR A QUAD SO
WE CAN PUT MORE ON EACH.
CAN YOU FIND THAT OUT FOR US AND REPORT BACK TO US?
THANK YOU.
11:41:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO THROW SOMETHING IN BEFORE ANYONE
MAKES MOTIONS TO -- WHAT I REALLY WANT BECAUSE I AM
INCREDIBLY VISUAL.
I WOULD LIKE A MAP.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE THE PROPERTIES ARE AND THE
PROXIMITY.
AS YOU WERE SAYING A TON ON 22nd STREET.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE CONTIGUOUS, AND IF THERE ARE
AVAILABLE LOTS THAT MIGHT CONNECT THOSE AND DO A BIT OF A
LARGER PROJECT.
AGAIN ONCE WE PUT THE RFPs OUT.
UNTIL WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A MAP WITH THE ZONING ON EACH SQUARE,
AND THEN -- WHAT ELSE.
I WANT ZONING IS AND JUST TO SEE
MAYBE WHATTAL COLOR NEARBY OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE VACANT AND
THAT IS IT WHAT I WANTED.
I WANTED TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE PROPERTIES.
THESE PROPERTIES.
IS THERE A BUILDING ON THEM OR VACANT.
THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I WANT TO KNOW.
THE ZONING FOR -- MAYBE TWO COLORS.
ONE FOR VACANT OR ONE HAS A BUILDING ON IT.
BUT THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
11:43:04AM >> SECOND.
11:43:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MAKE A MOTION IS I AM
TAKING NOTES.
I KNOW OUR HOUSING TEAM HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB OF THE
INFILL PROGRAM AND IMMEDIACY OF GETTING SOME OF THE CRA
PROPERTIES OUT FOR THAT.
AND I DO KNOW THAT THIS WILL BE PUTTING TOGETHER AND ISSUING
THAT RFP HERE WITHIN THE COMING MONTHS.
SO IF YOU WOULD HIKE, WE COULD ALSO TAKE THOSE PROPERTIES
THAT DON'T REQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL ACTION AND REPORT BACK TO
YOU WHAT TYPE OF DENSITY WE CAN GET OUT OF THESE PARCELS AND
LET YOU KNOW LIKE, HEY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TOO, MOVE FORWARD
AND PUT THAT IN A POT AND COME UP TO A MULTITUDE OF
DEVELOPERS SIMILAR TO THE LAST ROUND.
AND THE OTHER THING WE ARE LOOKING AT, I THINK IF YOU TALK
OF THE LAND TRUST, WE ARE WORKING TO TRY TO SPAN THAT UP
RELATIVELY QUICKLY AND PUTTING THOSE PROPERTIES OUT NOW WILL
BE A LITTLE BIT PREMATURE, IF YOUR INTENT IS TO ESTABLISH
THE LAND TRUST IF WE HAVE A LAND TRUST.
JUST THINKING OF THE TIMING OF IT ALL.
WE CAN CERTAINLY GO FORWARD WITH SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES,
BUT I THINK THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ALSO REQUIRE SOME
ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND AND RESEARCH.
MAYBE THOSE ARE THE ONES YOU WANT TO HOLD IN CONSIDERATION
FOR THE TRUST.
BUT THEN ALSO, THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN CRA, AND
OWNED AND HELD BY THE CITY THAT DON'T HAVE CRA FUNDING TIDE
TO THEM, PERHAPS A WAY FOR US TO CELEBRATE THE DEVELOPMENT
OF THOSE IS TO COME BACK WITH A PLAN FOR YOU AS WELL TO SAY
HOW ASK WE MAXIMIZE DENSITY ON THOSE PARCELS AND ALSO TO
TETHER SOME CRA FUNDING TO THOSE PUSH THAT DEVELOPMENT AND
MAKE IT MORE ATTAINABLE FOR THE PRICE POINT WE ALL WOULD
WANT TO SEE.
11:45:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:45:05AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, BOARD MEMBER GUDES OR WHOEVER MADE THE
ORIGINAL MOTION.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO TONIGHT SITTING IN CITY COUNCIL WANT A
MONTHLY UPDATE TO UPDATE THE PROPERTIES AND THE STATUS FOR
THEM.
THE CITY -- THE CRA CAN SUPPORT IT.
BECAUSE IT IS THE CITY.
AND THAT WAY WE CAN TRACK IT FOR THE PUBLIC AND ALSO FOR
OURSELVES.
ONE OTHER THING -- I WILL SUGGEST -- I WON'T MAKE A MOTION
-- BUT OTHER PROPERTIES THAT CAN BE CONVERTED TO HOUSING.
AN EXAMPLE -- THE CHIEF OF STAFF PUT TOGETHER A WHOLE TEAM
WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT TAMPA UNION STATION AND MEET WITH
THE FRIENDS OF TAMPA UNION STATION -- BEHIND TAMPA UNION
STATION IS A HUGE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
PART OF IT IS PARKING, BUT A BUILDING THAT IS NOT A HISTORIC
BUILDING AND THAT LAND CAN BE PART OF 99 YEAR FOR
REDEVELOPMENT AND YOU CAN PUT SEVERAL HUNDRED UNITS IN
THERE.
MY POINT IS THERE IS OTHER CITY OWNED PROPERTY THAT WE CAN
POTENTIALLY PUT INTO A LAND TRUST TO BUILD UNITS FASTER.
A LOT OF THESE WILL BE TWO RUN, TWO, MAYBE QUADS.
BUT A PLACE TO BUILD SEVERAL HUNDRED AND ADD TO AND HELP
SUPPORT HISTORIC STRUCTURE, HISTORIC FACILITY, WE SHOULD
LOOK AT THOSE SPACES AS WELL.
THERE MIGHT BE SOME OLDER KIND OF DERELICT BUILDING THAT
CITY OWNS THAT CAN BE CONVERTED TO LOTS OR OTHER KINDS OF
HOUSING AS WELL.
OPINIONED MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WE PUT IT INTO THE LAND
TRUST, BECAUSE THAT WILL MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE FOR
EVERYONE.
AND PART OF OUR SUBSIDIES.
AND SOMEBODY 99 YEARS WILL RELEASE IT OR USE IT FOR
SOMETHING ELSE.
THANK YOU.
11:46:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
11:46:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I TALKED OF THAT LAND TRUST AND MADE THAT
MOTION IN 2019.
WE FINALLY HAD A WORKSHOP CONTINUE TO BECAUSE CRAS CAN HAVE
A LAND TRUST.
THEY CAN HAVE IT AS A NONPROFIT AND HAVE SOMEBODY OPERATING
AND RUNNING IT.
GLAD YOU ARE WORK ON IT.
IT IS CRUCIAL WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
I GET UPSET WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN.
AND WE HAVEN'T DONE IT.
I THINK NOW SINCE THE CRISIS IS HERE.
WE GOT TO DO WHAT WE DO NOW AND TO HAVE IT MOVE DOWN, YOU
NEED TO PUT A TEAM TOGETHER.
A SEPARATE TEAM.
YOU ARE HIGHLY FOCUSED.
AND YOU NEED A TEAM TOGETHER TO AGGRESSIVELY GO AND MAKE
THINGS HAPPEN RIGHT NOW AND WITH THE DOLLARS WE ARE GOING TO
BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY APPROVE FOR YOU WITH CRA THAT WE BUILD
A TEAM, A SEPARATE TEAM.
I SAID BEFORE, EAST TAMPA IS THE BIGGEST CRA.
SHOULD BE IN THE QUADS.
I DO WORK HERE AND JUMP OVER HERE, YOU DON'T SEE IT.
CHANNEL IS A SMALL AREA.
YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE THAT GROWTH.
SEE IT MOVE.
EAST TAMPA HAS TO BE BROKEN UP IN A QUAD, A, B, C AND D.
WE HAVE SECTORS.
SECTOR E AND SECTOR F.
SECONDER E.
27th AVENUE TO HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND YOU HAVE A MAJOR THAT
RUNS THAT DISTRICT AND YOU HAVE A CAPTAIN THAT RUNS E.
A CAPTAIN THAT RUNS F.
ALL THE UNDERLINGS BEHIND IT.
I JUST THINK YOU GOT TO HAVE -- WHERE IF YOU BRING IN NEW
PEOPLE.
YOU HAVE A SYSTEM TO WHERE YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN CHARGE.
AND THERE ARE SECTORS TO GET THINGS MOVING.
I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
I AM HOPING YOU GO IN THAT DIRECTION, BECAUSE TO ACCELERATE
WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
BUT I AM JUST TELLING YOU FOR THIS MEETING, YOU ARE TELLING
ME YOU HAVE ALL THESE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY AND THE CRA
HAVEN'T APPROACHED THE CITY WHICH I THINK MISS JULIE USED TO
DO THAT WHEN SHE BECAME -- IN THE CRA.
SOMETIMES WE ARE HESITANT -- MR. CARLSON ASKED FOR IN 2019,
IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, IN REFERENCE TO ALL THE PROPERTIES.
WE ARE JUST NOW GETTING IT NOW.
I AM SURE THIS IS NOT EVERYTHING.
WE HAVE OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE CITY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO
SEE WHAT WE REALLY HAVE AS A COUNCIL, IN THIS CITY SO WE CAN
BUILD THIS TEAM.
SO I KNOW -- I CAN TRUST YOU AND MISS TRAVIS TO WILL GET
TOGETHER BUT WE HAVE TO BUILD A TEAM QUICKLY TO MAKE IT
MOVE.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.
11:49:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE OTHER THING I WILL ADD THAT SO MANY
PROPERTIES ON 27th STREET WHICH IS A BUSINESS COO ARE DOOR
IN SOME AREAS AND ALSO INTERESTING TO SEE HOW ALL THESE COME
TOGETHER BECAUSE IS JUST PUTTING HOUSING THERE A GOOD USE OF
FUNDS OR SHOULD WE DO SOME TYPE OF MIXED USE WHERE STORES ON
THE BOTTOM.
HOUSING ABOVE.
SO I -- I THINK THAT IF WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT AND THE --
HOW IT ALL -- HOW SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE CLOSE TO ONE
ANOTHER.
HOW THEY CONGREGATE AND RELATE TO ONE ANOTHER.
THAT WILL ALSO HELP US A LOT IN THAT.
11:50:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.
YOU BROUGHT IT UP.
YOU LOOK AT THE LIST AND YOU SEE THE ADDRESSES.
YOU SEE IT.
BACK IN 2018, 2019, THE CHAIR AT THAT TIME OF THE CAC BEGGED
THAT THOSE PROPERTIES -- PROPERTY WAS THERE NOT BE BUILT
UPON WITH HOMES BECAUSE IT WAS THE CORRIDOR OF THE DISTRICT
OR BUILD RETAIL WITH HOUSING ON TOP.
THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
FELL ON DEAF EARS WITH THE CITY AND BUILD HOUSES AND THEY
MESSED UP THE INTERTWINING OF 26th STREET BACK TO -- BACK TO
18th AVENUE WHERE IT COMES UP.
NO NOW YOU KILLED IT BECAUSE A GROCERY STORE COULD HAVE BEEN
PUT THERE.
A GROCERY STORE COULD HAVE BEEN PUT THERE.
THE NUMBERS ARE THERE FOR A GROCERY STORE.
MAYBE HELP THEM, ENTICE THEM TO COME UP.
THE NUMBERS WERE THIS.
I AM NOT BLAMING DOMAIN HOMES.
THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY AND BUILT THOSE HOMES.
IT MESSED UP THE WHOLE CORRIDOR.
NOW COME BACK TO WHERE MISS WHITE'S HOME NEAR NORTH 22nd, WE
WOULD BE BUYING ALL OF THAT AND THEN TALKING OF PUTTING
RETAIL ON THE BOTTOM AND TALK OF GOING UP A LITTLE BIT --
DENSITY UP A LITTLE BIT TO HAVE 22nd STREET CORE.
SAME THING ON 29th.
GOING UP TO ML KING.
PEOPLE TALK ABOUT A PLANNER.
A PLANNER CAN'T DO THAT.
YOU NEED TO HAVE A GUN OR DEVELOP TO COME IN AND DEVELOP.
PLANNER CAN'T DO THAT.
I SAW IT IN THE BUDGET AND I GOT TO QUESTION THAT TOO.
THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE.
IT NEEDS TO BE A DEVELOPER.
HIRING A DEVELOP TO COME IN TO DEVELOP YOUR COMMUNITY.
NOT A PLANNER.
THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EXTENSIVELY AND THEY DID WHAT THEY
WANTED TO DO IT AND WE HAVE A MESS OVER THERE.
11:52:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION OF BRING THIS
BACK AT A SPECIFIC TIME.
11:52:16AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED MR. DRUMGO.
I KNOW IT IS A LOT OF WORK.
11:52:21AM >> I AM LOOKING AT IT AS A COMBINATION OF TASKS.
WE BREAK IT DOWN IN A COMBINATION OF TASKS.
I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A REQUEST FOR US TO COME BACK WITH A
STRATEGY ON THE PERSONNEL AND ON THE FUNDING OF AFFORDABLE
HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE CRAS AND STUFF.
I WILL ASK YOU TO LET US HANDLE THAT TASK FIRST AND WE WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE TRUST AND EXTENDING THE TRUST AND
ALSO REALLY UNDERSTANDING, I THINK, SEPARATE AND APART FROM
THAT THE MAPPING PIECE.
WE NEED TO GO BACK AND TALK TO OUR TEAM OF HOW TO PROPERLY
MAP THESE AND HOW TO GET THE CODING ACCURATE TO MAKE SURE WE
STRATEGIZE ON THAT.
I AM HEARING A LONG-TERM PLAN YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WITH
REGARD TO MORE ACQUISITIONS.
WE WOULDN'T WANT TO COME BACK AND SHOW YOU THE LIST PUBLICLY
OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO ACQUIRE AND THAT CHANGES THE PRICE
POINT ON THINGS.
BUT WE CAN PUT ON A LIST KIND OF BEHIND THE SCENES TO
POTENTIALLY SHARE AND DISCUSS ONE ON ONE ON ONE OF THE
PROPERTIES PRIME FOR ACQUISITION FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THEN ALSO, I AM HEARING WITH THAT MAPPING, THE ANALYSIS
OF THE MIX OF USES.
AND I DO KNOW THAT YOU CAN PUT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY INTO A
TRUST AND I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE IN I CONFLICT HAVING
MIXED USE ALONG THE CORRIDOR WITH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL
AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST ASK THAT WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF TIME
ON THAT.
COME BACK WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS OR SO ABOUT THE
STRUCTURE AND STAFFING PIECE AND MAYBE A MONTH OR SO TO
REPORT BACK.
WE WON'T HAVE A MEETING IN OCTOBER.
IF WE COULD, COME BACK IN NOVEMBER WITH THE MAPPING, THE
CODING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THAT JUST TO PROVIDE YOU
WITH AN UPDATE.
ALSO, PROVIDE WITH YOU AN UPDATE ON THE -- ON THE LAND TRUST
PROGRESS AS WELL.
AND COUNCILMAN, SINCE YOU ARE ASKING FOR THAT TO BE A -- IF
YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE, LET ME KNOW.
11:54:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK YOU COVERED IT ALL.
11:54:22AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE POSSIBILITY OF A LAND TRUST WITHIN THE
CRA.
IF IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IF THE CRA CAN MOVE FASTER THAN THE
CITY, IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A SEPARATE ONE.
YOU WILL LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING AND COME BACK.
BY THE WAY, I LIKE THE IDEA OF SHOP HOUSES, HAVING RETAIL
UNDERNEATH AND ANTICIPATING THE DENSITY OF THE FUTURE.
11:54:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
SO THEN DO WE -- DOES ANYONE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ABOUT
THAT?
11:54:51AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DRUMGO, CAN I TRUST YOU ON THAT --
11:54:56AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
MAY BE NECESSARY TO HAVE A MOTION AND AN
UPDATE ON THE MAP AND LAND TRUST CONCEPTS COME FORWARD AT
YOUR NOVEMBER CRA MEETING.
11:55:04AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WHAT IS THE NOVEMBER DATE, MICHELLE?
11:55:16AM >>CLERK:
NOVEMBER 10 AT 9 A.M.
11:55:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
A MOTION ON THE FLOOR NOVEMBER 10 FOR MR.
DRUMGO TO COME BACK FOR THOSE ITEMS LISTED ON THE REPORT.
MAPPING, LAND TRUST -- I DID MISS ONE, SIR?
11:55:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:55:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
RENOVATION OF PROPERTY AND ACQUISITION.
11:55:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES AND SECONDED BY
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
OKAY.
11:55:51AM >> THANK YOU.
WE CONTINUED ITEM NUMBER 9 --
11:55:55AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MAY I?
11:55:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:55:59AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, I CONTINUED THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T
KNOW I WOULD BE HERE BY 2 A.M. GIVEN HOW TRAFFIC WAS, BUT
MAY I JUST MAKE A MOTION ON NUMBER 9 TO HAVE THAT GO FROM --
I THINK WE CONTINUED IT UNTIL NEXT MONTH AND TO HAVE A
FOLLOW-UP TO RESCIND THAT SINCE I'M HERE SO WE DON'T CLOG UP
THE AGENDA FURTHER.
AND TO SPEAK ON IT VERY BRIEFLY, MAY I?
11:56:25AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO MOVED.
11:56:26AM >> SECOND HURTAK WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT.
A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER
CITRO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
11:56:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH CRA BOARD MEMBERS AND
CHAIRWOMAN.
JUST VERY BRIEFLY I SAW THE REPORT AND I APPRECIATE THE HARD
WORK IN THE REPORT.
IT APPEARS SEVERAL MILLIONS DOLLARS NECESSARY TO GET THERE.
I THINK IT IS A VERY, VERY WORTHY INVESTMENT AND YOU GUYS --
I APPRECIATE I BROUGHT THIS UP LAST MINUTE.
IF YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THE REPORTS AND NEED TO DO THAT, THAT
IS TOTALLY COOL.
BUT TO GO BACK TO THE RESPECTIVE CAC AND REPORT BACK TO US,
IS THAT CORRECT?
11:57:08AM >> THAT IS ACCURATE.
IF THAT IS THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD.
WE WILL DISCUSS THE PARKING OR UPGRADES WITH THE CACS SO
PRIORITIZE WHICH IMPROVEMENTS OR PARKS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE
THIS HAPPEN IN.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE PARK STAFF WAS VERY -- STILL HAS TO
BE PLANNED, I THINK, FROM A STAFFING PERSPECTIVE.
AND SO EVEN IF THEY HAD THE FULL $3 MILLION TO UPGRADE ALL
THE PARKS, RIGHT NOW THEY ARE AT A 15 TO 20-YEAR BASE
RELATIVE TO THE CURRENT ALLEGATIONS TO DO IT BUT WANTED TO
BRING DOWN THE TIMELINE TWO TO FIVE YEARS AND WORK WITH THE
PARK STAFF AND THOSE CACS TO PRIORITIZE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS
AND KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL.
SO WHEN YOU TALK OF THOSE PARK UPGRADES, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY
HAVE SO MUCH MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THINGS
AROUND.
11:57:57AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I APPRECIATE THAT.
AGAIN, I DON'T THINK ANYONE ON THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO BE DONE
-- PUSH IT IMMEDIATELY.
ONE PIECE AT A TIME, SO TO SPEAK.
DOWNTOWN IF I RECALL $600,000.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE COME FROM DOWNTOWN TO ALL PARTS OF THE
CITY OF TAMPA.
I SAW 1.6 MILLION FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT DONE.
WEST TAMPA, ETC.
LET ME ASK YOU IF WE WERE TO BRING THIS BACK LET'S SAY IN
FEBRUARY GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME TO SPEAK TO THE CACS AND HAVE
A GOOD CLEAR PICTURE WHERE WE ARE AT OR DO YOU NEED MORE
TIME.
11:58:34AM >> I THINK THAT IS SUFFICIENT.
11:58:35AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY HAVE A MOTION TO COME BRING IT BACK
--
11:58:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I THINK -- IF WE PUT THIS FOR SEPTEMBER,
WE GOT TO TAKE THE SEPTEMBER VOTE OUT AND THE MOTION TO TAKE
-- TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER THE ONE WE HAD BEFORE.
11:58:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THOUGHT WE DID THAT?
11:58:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE DID?
OKAY.
11:58:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
QUESTION.
11:58:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
11:58:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I MET WITH THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND
MET WITH SEVERAL PLAYGROUND PEOPLE.
AND A COUPLE CAUGHT MY EYE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK OF
ACCESSIBILITY EQUIPMENT.
I DID HAVE A SHORT MEET WITH MISS HILLS, I WANT TO SAY LATE
TUESDAY AFTERNOON.
GAVE HER A PAMPHLET.
I WAS IMPRESSED WITH ONE COMPANY -- MR. VIERA WOULD PROBABLY
ENJOY THIS.
THEY HAD -- YOU KNOW SOME OF THE KIDS OR ADULTS, ACCIDENTS
HAPPENED OR THEY ARE BORN WITH CERTAIN DISABILITIES AND THEY
HAVE TO USE WHEELCHAIRS.
AND SOME OF THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT WAS DULY EQUIPPED FOR
EVERYDAY HEALTHY PERSON AND WHEELCHAIR PERSON.
I AM TALKING ABOUT THE LIFT TO GET THEIR BODY RESTRAINED OR
LEGS.
AND THERE WAS A PRESENTATION.
I AM SURE IF YOU FOLLOW UP SHE MAY MENTION THAT AND I WILL
TELL HER TOO BECAUSE THAT IS CRITICAL IN SOME OF OUR AREAS
AND COMMUNITIES OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, THEY CAN'T
REALLY ENJOY THE PARK BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO A MONKEY BAR OR
DO SOME THINGS.

I THINK THAT WAS A NEAT ADDED ATTRACTION TO SOME OF OUR
PARKS.
THANK YOU, SIR.
12:00:06PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILMAN
GUDES.
I KNOW YOU ALWAYS HAD A HEART ON THAT ISSUE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT AND YOUR WONDERFUL PASSION ON THAT.
IF I MAY, I WOULD MOTION TO HAVE THIS BACK TO US IN FEBRUARY
OF 2023.
12:00:21PM >>THE CLERK:
FEBRUARY 9?
12:00:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, PLEASE.
12:00:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
12:00:31PM >> AYE.
12:00:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, AND THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY AREAS THAT
ARE NOT CRA.
THIS IS PUTTING ON COUNCIL HAT.
SO TONIGHT, I'LL ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO ALSO LOOK AT THAT
AS WELL.
I WANTED TO DO THIS UNDER CRA SO WE COULD EXPEDITE THIS AS
MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND FOR THE MANY OTHER AREAS AND I'LL LEAVE
THAT AT THE DISCRETION, INCLUDING FOR THE DIFFERENT COUNCIL
DISTRICT MEMBERS, ET CETERA, BUT FOR A GENERAL MOTION FOR
THAT BECAUSE THAT'S VERY, VERY PIVOTAL.
I KNOW NEW TAMPA IS GETTING AN ALL-ACCESS PARK AS PART OF
THE EAST TAMPA RECREATION IMPROVEMENTS.
THAT'S ALSO GOING TO BE AN ALL-INCLUSIVE PARK, MY
UNDERSTANDING, SO THAT'S WONDERFUL STUFF.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
12:01:13PM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS EAST TAMPA PREDEVELOPMENT
PROGRAM.
WE HAVE TWO LEVELS TO THAT PROGRAM.

THESE PROGRAMS WERE APPROVED BY THE EAST TAMPA CAC.
MR. McCRAY WILL BE PRESENTING THESE TWO PROGRAMS.
12:01:31PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD MORNING OR GOOD AFTERNOON, AT THIS
POINT.
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA'S CRA MANAGER.
IF I COULD HAVE THE ELMO ON, PLEASE.
OKAY.
I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS RELATES TO
PREDEVELOPMENT AND ULTIMATELY THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN DISCUSSED
TO SPUR DEVELOPMENT ALONG OUR COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS IN EAST
TAMPA, NORTH AND SOUTH.
SO WE'RE PRIMARILY LOOKING AND DISCUSSING 15th STREET,
22nd, 29th, AND 34th.
AND THIS IS A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
LEVEL 1, AS MR. DRUMGO SAID, WE HAVE TWO LEVELS.
LEVEL ONE WAS TO -- DESIGNED TO PROVIDE UP TO $15,000 FOR
APPLICANTS AND LEVEL TWO IS A LOAN TO GRANT PROGRAM DESIGNED
TO PROVIDE UP TO $300,000 OR NO MORE THAN 15% OF THE OVERALL
PROJECT VALUE IN REIMBURSABLE LOAN TO GRANT FUNDING.
IT WOULD ULTIMATELY BE A FORGIVABLE LOAN.
ELIGIBLE SERVICES FOR THE $15,000, IT WOULD BE -- OWNERS
WOULD EITHER HAVE TO OWN THE PROPERTY OR PRODUCE THAT THEY
ARE RENTING OR TENANTS OF THAT SPECIFIC PROPERTY OR ADDRESS.
ONE-ON-ONE CONSULTING WOULD BE COVERED IN HAD THAT AMOUNT.
PRELIMINARY DESIGN CONCEPT, SKETCHES AND THE LIKE, ALSO A

DEVELOPMENT OF THE SCOPE OR PARTICULAR PROJECT.
ONCE THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REACH THAT POINT AND PRODUCE
THAT INFORMATION AND HAVE BEEN REIMBURSED, THEN IF THEY SO
CHOOSE, THEY CAN GO ON TO LEVEL 2.
THOSE ELIGIBLE SERVICES WOULD BE ULTIMATELY SCHEMATIC DESIGN
AND OTHER BASIC ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES.
MECHANICAL, PLUMBING, ENGINEERING, AND I.T.
LANDSCAPING AND PURCHASE OF SITE CONTROL WOULD BE INCLUDED
IN THAT AS WELL.
OVERALL SCOPE OF SERVICES, ANY RENDERINGS OR DRAWINGS FOR
FINAL REVISION AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS THAT WOULD BE
NEEDED FOR THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
THEY ULTIMATELY WOULD HAVE TO BE SIGNED AND SEALED BY A
REGISTERED ARCHITECT OR OTHER APPLICABLE PERSONNEL.
THE GENERAL CONDITIONS FOR LEVEL 2 APPLICANTS THAT RECEIVE
THE FUNDING, THE BUSINESS PREDEVELOPMENT LOAN TO GRANT
PROGRAM ARE ELIGIBLE FOR ONE BUSINESS PREDEVELOPMENT GRANT
PER EVERY FIVE-YEAR PERIOD APPLICANTS WHO RECEIVE FUNDING
MUST SUBMIT A COPY OF ALL FINAL WORK PRODUCTS TO WHICH GRANT
FUNDS ARE APPLIED.
AND THESE WILL BE FOR PUBLIC RECORD.
ALL PROJECTS WILL DISPLAY SIGNAGE SIMILAR TO THE SIGN THAT I
SHOWED EARLIER THIS MORNING.
AS IT RELATES TO THE PROJECT, RECEIVE EAST TAMPA FUNDING
FROM THE CRA SPECIFICALLY.

APPLICANTS ALSO HAVE TO AGREE TO BE PART OF PUBLICIZING THE
FACT THAT THEY DID BENEFIT FROM CRA DOLLARS AS WELL.
EAST TAMPA RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONSIDER EXEMPTIONS TO
THESE POLICIES AND GUIDELINES ON A CASE BY CASE DISCRETION.
DURING THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS, THERE WERE
SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT.
AND THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THEM THAT WE THOUGHT WERE
IMPORTANT.
IT WAS MENTIONED TO PARTNER WITH VARIOUS AGENCIES AND
NONPROFITS TO ASSIST SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS OR HELP IN
BUILDING OUT THEIR IDEAS.
SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT MAY BE COVERED WOULD POSSIBLY BE ABLE
TO BE CONDUCTED AND DO A LITTLE MORE HOLDING OF THEIR HAND
THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
SO THERE ARE SOME ENTITIES THAT ACTUALLY DO THAT HERE IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA AND WOULD WELCOME HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS
WITH THEM AS WELL.
THE IDEA OF A FIRST STEP MEETING TO MANAGE THE WORK
ASSIGNMENT AND THAT WILL BE KIND OF STARTED AND CONDUCTED BY
OUR STAFF INTERNALLY.
AND THIS IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE DELIVERABLES THAT
THEY ARE REQUESTING HAVE BEEN SOLIDIFIED BEFORE ANY
COMPENSATION IS APPROVED.
THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION BY STAFF FOR LEVEL 1 TO GO UP TO
$10,000, FOLLOWING THE WORKSHOP DISCUSSION, WE WENT UP TO 15

AND FOR LEVEL TWO, IT WAS -- WE STARTED $100,000 AND IT WENT
UP TO $300,000.
AS IT RELATES FOR THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS FOR LEVEL 2.
THEY WOULD ALSO -- THE SUGGESTION WAS MADE THAT WE INCLUDE A
BUDGET AND PRO FORMA WHEN FINANCING PLAN, ULTIMATELY THE
BUSINESSES GOING THROUGH THIS PLAN OR PROGRAM WOULD HAVE A
PACKET OF INFORMATION THAT IF THEY NEEDED TO SEEK ADDITIONAL
FUNDING FROM A LENDING SOURCE, THEY WOULD HAVE ALL OF THAT
IN HAND WHEN THEY WENT TO MAKE THAT REQUEST.
WE ALSO DID INCLUDE A RUBRIC OR SCORING APPLICATION, AND I
THINK ULTIMATELY EACH ORGANIZATION ON A HUNDRED-POINT SCALE,
THEY WOULD HAVE TO SIMPLY GET 60 POINTS TO MOVE FORWARD FOR
THE NEXT STEP OF APPROVAL.
12:07:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
MR. McCRAY, DO WE HAVE AN IDEA BASICALLY HOW MANY YOU
THINK ARE GOING TO BE FROM THAT 10 TO 15 AND 100 GOING TO --
AND PART D WOULD UNDER 10, 15, IS IT 50% INCREASE IN THE
AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT WHEN YOU GO TO ONE, IT'S A 300%
INCREASE OF MONEY.
CAN YOU TELL US WHY?
12:07:25PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
ULTIMATELY THE SCOPE OF SERVICES WOULD BE
MORE EXPENSIVE DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT.
WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE OTHER PROGRAMS AROUND THE STATE AS A
STAFF, YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT THAT THE 10,000 WAS ABOUT RIGHT
AND THEN SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE LOOKED AT, THEY WERE A

LITTLE LESS THAN A HUNDRED.
WE KNEW THAT WE WANTED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE SO THAT'S WHY
WE MOVED IT UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
12:07:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT YOU JUST SAID, CAUGHT MY OTHER EAR,
LEFT EAR, THAT YOU HAD SOME A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED.
HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE OVER 300?
12:07:57PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NONE CURRENTLY.
WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY FORMAL CONVERSATIONS OR ADVERTISE THE
PROGRAM.
12:08:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M NOT CONCERNED, BUT THE NUMBERS DON'T
MATCH.
ONE GOING UP 50%, THE OTHER 300%.
I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE 300%.
12:08:17PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YEAH, THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM
STAFF AND THEN WE HAD ONGOING CONVERSATIONS, WORKSHOP WITH
THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE.
12:08:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THEY OVERRULED YOU GUYS, IS THAT IT?
12:08:26PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NOT EXACTLY.
12:08:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WELL, I UNDERSTAND A VOTE IS A VOTE.
12:08:30PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
WE AGREED.
IT WAS A FEW STICKING POINTS THAT CAME UP.
AND ULTIMATELY WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, YIELD TO THE CRA BOARD
FOR UNDERSTANDING.
12:08:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WELL, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I DON'T
UNDERSTAND.

12:08:51PM >> IF I MAY, I WANT TO SUPPORT WHAT MR. McCRAY IS SAYING.
WE DID.
WE HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS.
LOOKED AT BOTH IN STATE FOR BEST PRACTICES AND OUT-OF-STATE
PROGRAMS.
HE OMITTED SOME OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF OUR PROCESS AND A
LITTLE BIT OF THE BACK AND FORTH.
IN THE CLOSED-DOOR SESSION WITH STAFF, WE LOOKED AT THE
NUMBERS.
WE WANTED TO GO FOR LOWER THRESHOLDS.
I MEAN, THIS IS A RISK.
WE WOULDN'T BE FORTHCOMING AND DOING OUR JOBS IF WE DIDN'T
TELL YOU IT IS A RISK.
THERE'S A CHANCE SOME PROJECTS WILL GO FORWARD AND SOME
WON'T.
AT THE END OF TODAY'S MARKET VALUES AND SCALE OF PROJECTS
THAT NEED TO OCCUR IN EAST TAMPA AND THE SUPPORT THAT THOSE
PROJECTS WOULD NEED, WE THOUGHT THAT WE PROBABLY NEEDED TO
MOVE ALONGSIDE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CAC.
WANTED THE $300,000 IN THERE.
BUT HE IS CORRECT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU ARE THE BOARD
AND YOU CAN RECOMMEND A LOWER THRESHOLD OR YOU CAN GO WITH
THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CAC.
ALSO, KEEP IN MIND THAT WE CAN PILOT THIS FOR A YEAR.
WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP THESE NUMBERS EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE.

WE CAN START AT A CERTAIN NUMBER AND ADJUST UP OR DOWN
DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS THAT WE GET.
CURRENTLY, I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION IS $600,000 TO KICK
OFF THIS PROGRAM, WHICH WOULD ENCOMPASS BOTH THE LEVEL ONE
AND LEVEL TWO, AND WE WOULD HOPE TO SEE A LOT OF
PARTICIPATION THAT DOESN'T EXCEED OR MAX OUT THE $300,000.
12:10:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MAY I CONTINUE?
SO YOU'RE TELLING US THAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONIES YOU
HAVE 600,000?
12:10:33PM >> FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.
12:10:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE HAVE TWO 300,000, YOU HAVE MORE MONEY.
12:10:38PM >> THAT IS ACCURATE.
12:10:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DON'T LIKE THAT SO MUCH.
12:10:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
12:10:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WAS LOOKING AT THAT, TOO, BECAUSE I'M
LOOKING, ASK MS. HEWITT, I KNOW SHE WORKED WITH STAFF A
LITTLE BIT ON THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS GOOD THAT WE HAVE
OUTSIDE PEOPLE THAT CAN WORK WITH STAFF AND GET THINGS
MOVING.
IF YOU CAN COME UP, MS. HEWITT.
WHEN I LOOK AT SOME OF THE LAND PROJECTS, SOME OF THESE ARE
MONUMENTAL PLACES.
I LOOK AT JACKSON STORE, WHICH IS 3402, THEY HAVE A LOT OF
PROPERTY OVER THERE.
I MEAN, A LOT OF PROPERTY OVER THERE.

WHERE THAT STORE IS AND BEHIND IT.
I LOOK AT NEBRASKA AND LAKE, 3705.
THAT COULD BE A HUGE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
SOME OF THE PROJECTS I'M LOOKING AT COULD BE A GAME-CHANGER
IN EAST TAMPA AND TAKE A LOT OF BLIGHT AWAY.
I WANT TO THANK MS. HEWITT FOR HEARING WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING
AND MADE A MOTION TO STAFF.
I GUESS SHE WENT BACK TO HER COMMITTEE AND GOT TO WORK ON
THIS.
I WANT TO THANK HER FOR THE EFFORTS TO WORK WITH STAFF TO
MOVE THIS.
I WANT TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS TALKING
ABOUT AND THE THRESHOLD MR. MIRANDA WAS TALKING ABOUT.
12:12:00PM >> THANK YOU.
ALISON HEWITT.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
YES, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS OVER A YEAR NOW.
THE INITIAL REQUEST FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
WAS 300,000.
THAT WAS BASED ON THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE HAS A
PREDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM THAT IS IN FLORIDA STATUTE THAT
OUTLINES ELIGIBLE USES OF TAX DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO HELP DO
THE PREDEVELOPMENT SOFT COSTS FOR DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
AND WHAT IS NEEDED, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE POTENTIAL PROJECTS
THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A VERY STRONG SOFT-COST

BUDGET THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT
THEY CAN -- BECAUSE THESE FOLKS WILL NOT HAVE JUST ON THEIR
OWN THE MONEY TO DEVELOP THIS.
SO THEY ARE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE A PLAN THAT THEY CAN TAKE
TO INVESTORS.
THEY CAN TAKE TO BANKS.
AGAIN, THIS WILL ALSO REQUIRE BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE DISTRICT
THAT WE ARE, A LAYERING OF FINANCING.
NEW MARKET TAX CREDITS, OPPORTUNITY ZONES, BROWNFIELDS.
SO TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEONE TO HELP THEM GO THROUGH THAT
PROCESS, TO HAVE SOMEONE TO PAY THOSE SOFT COSTS -- AND I
WILL SAY THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PAYING THEIR TAXES FOR
LONGER THAN WE'VE HAD A CRA.
SO THEY HAVE INVESTED ALREADY IN THE MONEY, IN THIS POT OF
MONEY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT
WE USE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE WORKSHOP IS DMS AT
MyFlorida.com, THEY HAVE A FREE GUIDE TO CALCULATE
ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING SERVICES.
SO I DID SHARE THAT MY CONCERN WITH 15,000 FOR THE PHASE ONE
MAY BE A CHALLENGE.
JUST TO BE ABLE TO GET YOU TO PHASE TWO TO BE ABLE TO DO THE
SCHEMATIC DRAWINGS, WE CANNOT CONTINUE IN EAST TAMPA TO HAVE
TO GO TO GET THE DISCOUNTED RATES BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING
TO FUND A GASWORX FOR THEM TRYING TO GET DISCOUNTED RATES

FOR THEM TO BRING YOU THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO KNOW TO
BUILD A GASWORX, TO BUILD THE THINGS THEY ARE BUILDING OVER
IN SOUTH TAMPA.
I DO HAVE A CHALLENGE, THAT'S WHY MY PUBLIC COMMENTS, I ASK
FOR FLEXIBILITY IN THIS BECAUSE THE SCHEMATIC DRAWINGS AND
EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO GET YOU TO PHASE TWO I HAVE A
CONCERN THAT YOU WON'T GET TO PHASE TWO BECAUSE YOU WON'T BE
ABLE TO GET WHAT YOU NEED WITH THE POTENTIAL PROJECTS FOR
$15,000.
BUT IF WE DO AND WE GET TO THE 300, TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY
PUT TOGETHER A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT HAS A PRO FORMA SO THAT
THESE FOLKS WHO OWN THE PROPERTY WILL KNOW HOW MUCH THEY
NEED TO CHARGE PER SQUARE FOOT FOR THE COMMERCIAL AND HOW
MUCH THEY NEED TO CHARGE AND HOW MUCH THEY NEED TO KEEP
RENTED FOR THEIR HOUSING.
SO THESE FOLKS HAVE HAD THESE BUSINESSES FOR LIKE A COMBINED
90 YEARS.
SO THEY ARE COMMITTED TO THIS AREA.
THEY ARE GOING TO STAY IN THE AREA.
THEY LIVE IN THE AREA ALREADY.
SO AS MUCH AS THEY SAY IT'S A RISK, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY
DISAGREE BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THESE PEOPLE LIVE AND HAVE
RAISED FAMILIES FOR GENERATIONS, AND THEY WANT TO BE A
BETTER PARTNER IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF EAST TAMPA.
IF YOU HAVE A STRONG DEVELOPMENT PLAN AT THE END OF THAT

PHASE 2, BECAUSE, EXAMPLE, THE JACKSONS, RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO
WHERE WE'RE GOING TO KNOCK DOWN AND DO THE COMMUNITY CENTER,
ESPECIALLY, THEY WANT TO DO SENIOR LIVING THERE.
SO YOU HAVE SECTION 202 THAT THEY CAN APPLY FOR, FOR HUD TO
BE ABLE TO FUND THAT.
WHEN HUD SEES, WHEN YOU APPLY FOR THAT, YOU ARE MORE
COMPETITIVE WHEN THEY SEE, ONE, YOU HAVE A SIGNIFICANT
SENIOR POPULATION, BUT, TWO, YOU ARE NOW RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO
THE SERVICES AND THE SENIOR CENTER TO BE ABLE TO FUND THAT
PRODUCT.
UNFORTUNATELY OR FORTUNATELY WITH THIS PROGRAM AND WITH THE
ACCESS TO THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE
TO WALK THESE PROPERTY OWNERS THROUGH THIS PROCESS SO THAT
ONCE THEY HAVE A PLAN AND ONCE THEY ARE FINANCED, THEY ALSO
HAVE A MANAGEMENT PLAN TO MAINTAIN IT AT THE LEVEL THAT WE
WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN EAST TAMPA.
SO I THINK THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE
15,000.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT WE CAN GET ALL THE SCHEMATIC DESIGNS
WE NEED FOR THAT PRICE TO MOVE IT FORWARD, BUT THAT'S WHAT
WE WERE ABLE TO GET THROUGH WITH STAFF.
I THINK THE PHASE TWO, AS LONG AS WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE CAN CREATE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND A FINANCING PLAN
FOR THESE PROJECTS, YOU WILL SEE THOSE PROJECTS COME TO
FRUITION.

I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO MEET WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE
PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR BROTHERS, THEIR
SISTERS, THEIR MOMS.
ONE OF THEM IS 80 YEARS OLD AND SHE RUNS THE FAMILY WITH AN
IRON GLOVE AND SHE SAYS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS BEFORE I'M
NOT HERE ANYMORE.
BUT THESE FOLKS ARE PUTTING THE MONEY ASIDE.
THEY ARE FIXING THEIR CREDIT.
SO THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO BECOME BANKABLE AS
WELL.
12:17:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
12:17:22PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WELL, I THINK NOTHING IS NO GREATER THAN A
TRY.
I THINK YOU CAN START IT AS A PILOT BECAUSE I KNOW ALL THESE
PROPERTIES HERE AND THEY ARE JUST ROTTING.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
I GET CALLS SOMETIMES WHEN FOLKS COME HERE, ESPECIALLY FROM
OTHER COMMUNITIES, THEY DON'T HAVE THE BIG-TIME LAWYERS THAT
COME HERE AND KNOW THE ZONING RULES AND REGULATIONS AND HOW
TO SAVE THIS AND HOW TO SAVE THAT.
THEY GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE AND THEN THEY DON'T GET THEIR
PROJECTS DONE OR THEY SAY I HEAR ALL THIS STUFF BUT I DON'T
KNOW HOW TO DO ALL THAT, SO THEY DON'T GET IT DONE.
I THINK, BOARD MEMBERS, IT'S A CRAFT TO SAY HOW CAN WE HELP
THOSE PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW TO KNOW TO GET HELP TO MOVE

FORWARD.
IF WE CAN GET THEM OVER THE HUMP A LITTLE BIT, I THINK THAT
WOULD BE GOOD TO WHERE IF THEY HAVE AN ARCHITECT OR SOMEONE
WHO CAN DO THE ZONING, WHO CAN DO THE PLANS, I THINK THAT IS
JUST A GREAT INCENTIVE TO GET SOME BLIGHT OUT OF EAST TAMPA.
12:18:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
12:18:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, THIS CITY AND THE COUNTY, BUT THE CITY
SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER THE YEARS SUBSIDIZING BIG
COMPANIES, BIG DEVELOPERS.
SOME OF THEM DIDN'T ASK FOR IT AND PRIOR ADMINISTRATION JUST
GAVE THEM MONEY.
I THINK THE COMMUNITY OVER THE YEARS THOUGHT THAT MONEY
COULD BE MUCH BETTER SPENT.
WE KNOW FROM THE NUMBERS THAT ALL OF THAT MONEY FAILED.
IT MADE A FEW PEOPLE RICHER, BUT IT HURT THE COMMUNITY BY
SHRINKING THE MIDDLE CLASS AND MAKING THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE
IN POVERTY HIGHER AND INCREASING DISPARITIES.
WHAT WE NEED IS REAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK THIS KIND OF PROGRAM IS REAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S HELPING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
YOU HAVE THE BIOS DESCRIBED IN IT, THAT IT'S HELPING REAL
PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO INVEST IN PROPERTIES IN THE
COMMUNITY.
WHEN WE STARTED, THERE WAS A LOT OF MONEY BEING BANKED IN

THE EAST TAMPA DISTRICT AND IT LOOKED LIKE LAST
ADMINISTRATION WAS TRYING TO LAND BANK MONEY FOR MASSIVE
GENTRIFICATION.
INSTEAD OF SPENDING MONEY ON A BIG PROJECT, SOME BIG PROJECT
WITH ONE BIG DEVELOPER WHO IS NOT FROM EAST TAMPA, I'D MUCH
RATHER SEE THE MONEY SPENT IN SMALLER BUCKETS TO HELP
FAMILIES TO BUILD WEALTH AND MULTIGENERATIONAL EQUITY
INSTEAD OF SUBSIDIZING SOMEBODY FROM OUTSIDE JUST TO KICK
EVERYBODY OUT.
I'M VERY IN FAVOR OF THIS.
MY ONLY QUESTION, SORRY IF I MISSED THIS EARLIER, FOR STAFF
IS THERE SOME KIND OF RESTRICTION, LIKE IF THEY SELL IT IN
TEN YEARS, THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY US BACK?
12:20:01PM >> YES.
12:20:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T WANT SOMEBODY JUST TO
FLIP IT AND THEN WE CAN KEEP THE FUND GOING.
IF THEY MAKE $100,000 PROFIT AFTER DOING THIS, THEN THEY CAN
AFFORD TO PAY THE $15,000 BACK, RIGHT?
12:20:12PM >> CORRECT.
THANK YOU.
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, AND I WOULD LOVE TO REITERATE A
COUPLE OF THINGS.
ULTIMATELY, THE CRA BOARD WOULD REVIEW AND APPROVE ANY OF
THE LEVEL 2 APPLICATIONS BEFORE THEY ARE TO RECEIVE FUNDING.
AS I STATED EARLIER, LOAN TO GRANT PROGRAM, SO FOR 20 YEARS

-- SORRY, NOT 20 YEARS, 20% FOR EVERY FIVE YEARS.
EVERY FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, 20% WOULD BE FORGIVEN.
THE POSSIBILITY OF THEM, IF THEY CLOSE THE DOORS AFTER TWO
YEARS, THEN THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING BACK THE
REMAINDER.
12:20:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SAME THING IF THEY SELL.
12:20:52PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
CORRECT.
12:20:53PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF THEY SELL, THEY HAVE TO PAY.
12:20:55PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
CORRECT.
YES.
THE $15,000 FOR LEVEL ONE IS ULTIMATELY FOR SCHEMATICS, AND
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE THE PROJECTS MOVE ON THAT THEY
ARE ACTUALLY VIABLE BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE A TON OF FOLKS THAT
WOULD BE SEEKING FUNDING TO ASSIST THEM THROUGH THAT
PROCESS, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO
SUSTAIN AND MOVE ON TO THAT SECOND LEVEL.
12:21:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO ONE IS TRYING TO STYMIE DEVELOPMENT.
THE PROBLEM IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, 50% VERSUS 300%
-- 15% VERSUS 300%.
THEN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, YOU DON'T HAVE 60 MILLION
AVAILABLE, YOU'VE GOT WHAT?
600,000 AVAILABLE.
SO IT COULD BE TWO PROJECTS AND THAT'S THE END OF IT.
THE LITTLE ONE, THE LITTLE PERSON WHO WANTS TO DO SOMETHING
WITH THE 15,000, HE OR SHE IS OUT OF LUCK.

TRYING TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE OF IT.
A AND B.
NO ONE THAT HAS 2.7 ACRES -- AND I DON'T KNOW THE PEOPLE.
I'M SURE THEY ARE GREAT, WONDERFUL PEOPLE -- NO ONE THAT HAS
THAT CAN'T GO AND GET THEIR OWN FINANCING IN A BANK,
INCLUDING THE BIG DEVELOPERS.
THE BIG DEVELOPERS AND THE LITTLE DEVELOPERS ARE ALL THE
SAME BECAUSE SOMETIME, SOMEWHERE, SOMEBODY STARTED SMALL.
NOBODY STARTED BUILDING A THOUSAND-UNIT APARTMENTS, COMPLEX
SOMEWHERE UNTIL YOU HAD THE FUNDS AND THE CAPABILITY OF
HANDLING IT.
WHAT I'M SAYING, I WANT TO BE ULTRAFINE THAT THE 600,000 IS
NOT TAKEN SO THAT THE LITTLE GUY WITH 15,000 DOESN'T GET
ANYTHING.
THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT NOW.
HOW MANY 15,000, YOU GET INTO 300,000?
A LOT.
THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO CUT OUT SOMEBODY THAT COULD DO MUCH MORE
BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO FUND THE LITTLE ONE.
YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT ALL.
THIS IS ONE, SO YOU ONLY GOT ONE MORE LEFT AND YOUR WHOLE
BUDGET IS GONE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
12:22:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.

12:22:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I SAY WE MOVE AND APPROVE IT BUT AS A
ONE-YEAR PILOT PROGRAM.
ISN'T THAT WHAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, TREATED AS A PILOT
PROGRAM?
12:23:09PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THAT IS ACCURATE.
YOU CAN TREAT IT AS A PILOT PROGRAM.
12:23:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO, SECONDED
BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:23:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:23:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:23:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:23:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
12:23:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
12:23:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
THE DOLLAR AMOUNT YOU CAME UP, 600,000, HOW DID YOU ROUND UP
FOR THE 600,000?
I'M CURIOUS.
MR. MIRANDA SAYING, MAYBE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT
MORE.
12:24:00PM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
THAT IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH YOUR CAC,
DEVELOPING THE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL CYCLE.
THEY DETERMINED THE 600,000 AND CREATED THE POT OF MONIES
SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PURPOSE SHOULD WE DEVELOP THE PROGRAM.

WE WENT OUT AND DEVELOPED THE PROGRAM TO PAIR WITH THE
FUNDING AVAILABLE OR MADE AVAILABLE.
12:24:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
A PROGRAM LIKE THIS TO START OUT, SHOULD AT
LEAST HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A PROGRAM LIKE THAT.
IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT -- MR. MIRANDA SAID SOME SMALLER
PROPERTIES, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A MILLION DOLLAR PROGRAM.
12:24:28PM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK BEFORE YOU AND
REALLOCATE FUNDING.
WE REPROGRAM FUNDS AS WELL.
12:24:34PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
YOU CAN DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT LATER ON THIS
FISCAL YEAR IF YOU WANTED TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM.
12:24:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
I UNDERSTAND WHY HE VOTED NO BECAUSE YOU'RE UNDERFUNDED.
IT'S A PILOT, MR. MANISCALCO SAID.
IF IT STARTS TO TAKE OFF, BY ALL MEANS I WANT YOU TO COME
BACK BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES HERE WILL BE A
REAL WOW, ESPECIALLY THAT ONE AT NEBRASKA AND LAKE.
ALL RIGHT.
I WILL VOTE YES ON IT.
12:25:07PM >>THE CLERK:
HURTAK?
12:25:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:25:09PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO.
12:25:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, ACTUALLY, THAT YOU
COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS WITH AN UPDATE JUST TO LET US KNOW
HOW IT'S GOING.

THAT WAY WE CAN FIND OUT IF THE 600,000 IS ADEQUATE.
12:25:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM CHAIRWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR?
12:25:34PM >> AYE.
12:25:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SIX-MONTH REPORT REGARDING THE STATUS OF
THE PILOT PROGRAM.
12:25:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I CAN'T DO THE MATH.
JUST A POINT BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, IT IS ALMOST 12:30.
HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL?
WE HAVE QUITE A FEW MORE THINGS, ALTHOUGH I THINK SOME OF
THEM WE COULD APPROVE PRETTY QUICKLY.
WHAT ARE FOLKS' THOUGHTS?
12:25:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I SAY WE GO THROUGH.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING CONTROVERSIAL.
WE'VE DISCUSSED SO MUCH.
12:26:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO AIM FOR 12:45.
12:26:13PM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
THE NEXT ITEM UP IS THE EAST TAMPA SLATE OF
CANDIDATES BEING SET FORTH FOR APPROVAL.
MR. McCRAY HAS THAT.
12:26:22PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD AFTERNOON, AGAIN.
YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A SPREADSHEET.
WE HAD 12 APPLICANTS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE EAST TAMPA AD
HOC COMMITTEE.

ONE OF THEM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, DR. SONJA BROOKINS WAS
APPOINTED LAST MONTH TO FILL A VACANT SEAT.
NOW WE HAVE 11 CANDIDATES THAT WERE LISTED IN TOTAL.
I BELIEVE FIVE OF THOSE CANDIDATES WERE ALL MEMBERS THAT ARE
CURRENTLY SERVING ON THE EAST TAMPA CAC THAT ARE SEEKING
REAPPOINTMENT OR ELECTION.
12:26:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO APPROVE.
12:26:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
12:27:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GOING BACK TO WHAT WE ASKED EARLIER, ARE
THEY ALL AWARE OF THE OBLIGATIONS THAT THEY HAVE BY TAKING
ON THIS POSITION?
12:27:09PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES.
AND WITH THE PROCESS OF ESTABLISHING THE RETREAT THAT WE'LL
BE HAVING ON SEPTEMBER 30th AND OCTOBER 1st, WE WILL
BEGIN TO LET THEM KNOW AND REMIND THEM WHAT THE LEVEL OF
INVOLVEMENT IS AND REQUIRED AND BE FULLY ACTIVE ON THE EAST
TAMPA CAC.
12:27:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
12:27:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO APPROVE.
12:27:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO,
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
12:27:41PM >> AYE.
12:27:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO I NEED TO DO ROLL CALL FOR THAT?
IT IS REQUIRED.

THANK YOU.
INTERRUPT ME WHEN I'M DOING SOMETHING.
12:27:54PM >>THE CLERK:
GUDES?
12:27:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
12:27:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:27:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:27:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:27:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
12:27:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:28:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:28:01PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:28:08PM >> THE NEXT ITEM IS A GRANT REQUEST FOR THE WELLNESS HUB.
MR. McCRAY WILL GIVE YOU BACKGROUND ON THAT PROJECT.
THE CAC DID APPROVE THIS PROJECT FOR FUNDING.
WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH A FUNDING AGREEMENT
AFTER YOUR APPROVAL TODAY.
12:28:27PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THE WELLNESS HUB IS A PHARMACY.
THEY ARE LOOKING TO PURCHASE -- NOT PURCHASE -- THEY ALREADY
OWN IT, TO REHAB A NIGHTCLUB ESTABLISHMENT ON 40th STREET.
CURRENTLY GOES BY THE NAME OF 1828.
HAD SOME ONGOING CONVERSATIONS IN RECENT MONTHS AND THEY
HAVE COME WITH A REQUEST TO THE EAST TAMPA ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, AND IT WAS APPROVED LAST MONTH BY THE
EAST TAMPA CAC TO FUND UP TO $300,000.
I THINK THEIR INITIAL REQUEST WAS 350.

BUT ULTIMATELY, THEY WILL BE A FULL-SERVICE PHARMACY IN EAST
TAMPA ON 40th STREET.
THERE WILL BE FOCUSES ON PEDIATRIC MEDICAL SERVICES,
IN-HOUSE INSURANCE SPECIALISTS AND ALSO THEY HAVE A DELIVERY
SERVICE AS IT RELATES TO PHARMACEUTICALS.
IT'S A HUSBAND AND WIFE OWNED.
DR. WRIGHT IS THE PRIMARY PERSON THAT MADE THE REQUEST FROM,
AND THEY ALSO ARE RESIDENTS AND HAVE OWNED THE CURRENT
BUSINESS ON 50th STREET, WHICH IS RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE CRA
BOUNDARIES AND NOW WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT A LITTLE CLOSER IN
TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE
HAVE AS IT RELATES TO THE EAST TAMPA CRA AND THE FUNDING.
12:29:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO APPROVE.
12:29:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
12:29:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA.
MS. REGINA WILL BE HAPPY WITH THAT.
IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THAT RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, JUST LIKE WITH THE STRAZ WHEN WE
GAVE MONEY AWAY, A GRANT, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THIS AMOUNT OF
MONEY, WHAT ARE WE RECEIVING?
HOW ARE WE BENEFITING AS WELL?
12:30:17PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
WELL, ACTUALLY THAT LOCATION, COUNCILMAN
GUDES OR BOARD MEMBER GUDES, AS YOU KNOW, HAS A HISTORY.
THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE NOISE, ABOUT
SOME OF THE ACTIVITY THAT HAS GONE ON IN YEARS PAST.

NOW I BELIEVE IT'S ONLY CURRENTLY OPEN FOR SMALL OR SPECIAL
EVENTS DURING THE DAY.
THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO HAVE PHASED OUT I BELIEVE AT THE END
OF THIS MONTH.
NOW THEY ARE LOOKING TO CONVERT THAT LOCATION INTO A FULL
SERVICE PHARMACY.
12:30:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
LIKE WE DO WITH THE STRAZ, WITH THIS TYPE
OF MONEY, PUBLICATION THAT EAST TAMPA CAC WAS A CONTRIBUTING
FACTOR TO HELP TO MOVE SO THE COMMITTEE KNOWS -- THEY ARE
HELPING TO BUILD THE COMMUNITY.
A LOT OF SENIORS OVER THERE AS WELL.
PHARMACY WILL BE CLOSE.
OUR PLACE IS CLOSE BY AS WELL.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD AVENUE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE HELPED
CONTRIBUTE TO HELP GET THIS THING MOVING.
12:31:17PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES, SIR.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE'VE HAD SOME CONTROVERSIAL
CONVERSATIONS WHEN THERE HAVE BEEN REQUESTS MADE.
THIS WAS UNANIMOUS ACROSS THE BOARD AS IT RELATES TO THE
SUBCOMMITTEE AND THE CAC.
EVERYONE FELT VERY POSITIVE AND THEY DID AN EXCELLENT
PRESENTATION.
12:31:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
-- THE PARTNERSHIP AND CAC HELPED PROVIDE.
12:31:43PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES, SIR.

12:31:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I MET THIS DOCTOR WHO OWNS THE PHARMACY SEVERAL YEARS AGO,
CANDY LOWE, BLACK BUSINESS BUS TOUR.
SHE IS VERY BRIGHT.
SHE IS HELPING THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK IN THE NEW LOCATION SHE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE MUCH MORE TO THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU.
12:32:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST LIKE ON THE LAST ONE, I THINK THIS IS
THE KIND OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
KIND OF THING I WAS ASKING FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.
WE SHOULD BE HELPING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
BRINGING ASSETS AND RESOURCES TO THE COMMUNITY, MAKING THE
COMMUNITY MORE LIVABLE INSTEAD OF FUNDING GENTRIFICATION AND
OUTSIDE PEOPLE TO COME TEAR DOWN EVERYTHING.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE REPLACING A USE THAT'S NOT POPULAR
WITH ONE THAT WILL BE POPULAR.
MY ONLY QUESTION FOR THE PUBLIC, WHAT PROTECTIONS DO YOU
HAVE IN THE CONTRACT?
IS THERE LIKE A FIVE-YEAR BURNOUT PERIOD LIKE ON THE OTHER
ONE?
ANY OTHER PROTECTIONS?
IF THEY CHANGE THE USE OF IT, THEY CAN'T JUST TAKE THE MONEY
AND CONVERT IT BACK TO A NIGHTCLUB.
12:32:46PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
DEFER TO MR. MASSEY.

12:32:48PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
-- BEFORE THIS IS FINALIZED THAT SPELLS OUT
HOW THAT WILL BE PROTECTED.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED.
THEY ARE ASKING FOR YOUR GENERAL AUTHORIZATION -- WITH THE
GRANT CONCEPT, BUT THERE WILL HAVE TO BE AN AGREEMENT THAT
SPELLS OUT ALL THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
SO IF THEY DO CONVERT IT BACK, FRANKLY, THERE PROBABLY WILL
BE A PAY-BACK PROVISION.
12:33:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST AS YOU'RE WRITING DE NOVO CONTRACTS, I
WOULD SUGGEST WE GO AT LEAST TEN YEARS BECAUSE WE WANT SOME
PROTECTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO IT SHOULD INCLUDE A
CHANGE OF USE ALSO.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE RESTRICTED TO A PHARMACY NECESSARILY,
BUT THAT WITHIN WHATEVER TYPE CONFINES IT CAN'T BE CONVERTED
BACK TO A BAR OR WHATEVER.
THE ONLY REASON TO DO THAT IS WE'VE SEEN PAST, NOT IN EAST
TAMPA, BUT IN OTHER PLACES WHERE SOMEBODY BOUGHT A PROPERTY
BECAUSE IT WASN'T ADVERTISED PROPERLY BY THE CITY AND THEN
THEY TURNED AROUND AND FLIPPED IT AND MADE MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING IN EVERY
NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE BOARD PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY'S
MONEY HERE.
AS MY COLLEAGUE SAID, IT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
THANK YOU.

12:33:55PM >> MOVE TO APPROVE.
12:33:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY BOARD MEMBER
MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
ROLL CALL.
12:34:05PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:34:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:34:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:34:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
12:34:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:34:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
12:34:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:34:20PM >>THE CLERK:
UNANIMOUS.
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:34:28PM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
THE NEXT ITEM IS A REPROGRAMMING FOR YBOR CRA
FOR STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY OF
TAMPA CRA AND TAMPA CONTRACTING SERVICES.
THIS AMENDMENT IS CHANGE ORDER FOR APPROXIMATELY $47,000,
WHICH REPRESENTS A 3.5% INCREASE ON THAT CONTRACT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
12:34:51PM >> SO MOVED.
12:34:51PM >> SECOND.
12:34:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER
MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.

ROLL CALL.
12:34:59PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
12:34:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:35:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:35:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:35:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
12:35:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:35:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:35:06PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:35:09PM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE EAST TAMPA
STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
WE HAVE A FINAL DRAFT AND A REPRESENTATIVE FROM GAI IS HERE,
PETE SECHLER, HAS A PRESENTATION FOR THE BOARD.
12:35:21PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
IT'S NOW THE AFTERNOON.
APPRECIATE BEING HERE TODAY.
WE HAVE TWO DOCUMENTS.
THE ACTUAL STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN AND THEN THERE IS A
COMPANION DOCUMENT.
I NOTED YOUR COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT MAPS.
THERE IS A COMPANION DOCUMENT THAT'S MAYBE LESS EXCITING TO
LOOK AT, BUT IT'S THE APPENDIX.
THIS INCLUDES ALL OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
IT INCLUDES THE ENTIRE ECONOMIC AND TIF ANALYSIS AS WELL AS
OTHER SOCIOECONOMIC DATA FOR THE AREA.

BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES OVER 35 MAPS THAT WE HAVE GATHERED FROM
VARIOUS SOURCES AT THE CITY.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ALL IN ONE
PLACE, BUT WE NOW HAVE A FREE-STANDING GIS DATABASE WITH 40
OR 45 DATA POINTS, INCLUDING VACANT PROPERTIES, ALL IN ONE
CONSOLIDATED GIS FILE THAT IS SPECIFIC TO EAST TAMPA THAT
CAN ACTUALLY BE MANAGED BY ONE OF THE STAFF MEMBERS WITH
EAST TAMPA, WHICH IS ACTUALLY PRETTY EXCITING.
SO SOMETIMES THIS STUFF ISN'T VERY EXCITING TO TALK ABOUT,
BUT THERE'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL TOOL HERE TO YOUR POINT
EARLIER.
HOW DO WE BRING THE SLIDES UP?
THERE IT GOES.
JUST LIKE THAT.
GREAT.
LET ME JUST -- WHAT I WANT TO DO IS TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND
KIND OF WALK THROUGH WHAT'S IN THE PLAN AND KIND OF HOW TO
READ THE PLAN AND THEN MAYBE A COUPLE OF CLOSING COMMENTS
ABOUT THE PROCESS AND KIND OF WHAT THE OUTCOMES ARE.
SO THIS FUNDAMENTALLY IS A PLAN.
WE STARTED IN A PLACE -- MR. GUDES MENTIONED EARLIER MAYBE
LACK OF KNOWLEDGE, SOME CHAOS, SOME DIFFICULTIES IN SORT OF
MANAGING THE CRA, AND WE STARTED THIS AT THE BEGINNING OF
COVID, WHICH KIND OF DOUBLED DOWN ON ALL OF THOSE ISSUES.
AND THEN WE BEGAN IN A PROCESS WHERE THE MANAGER ACTUALLY

RESIGNED. SO WE REALLY WERE IN A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION
STARTING THIS PROCESS IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY CONTINUITY.
AND THE MISSION OF THE PROJECT AT THE END AND WHAT I BELIEVE
THE REPORT CONVEYS, IN THE BIG PICTURE IS THAT THERE IS A
LOT OF COMMON GROUND ABOUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY ASPIRATIONS
ARE AND ABOUT WHAT THE REALISTIC POSSIBILITIES ARE FOR EAST
TAMPA AND THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT, AND IT'S TIME FOR EAST TAMPA
TO TAKE PRIDE IN OWNERSHIP IN THAT, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THE OPPORTUNITIES
AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND ALSO FOR THE OUTSIDE WORLD IN TERMS OF THE GENERAL CITY,
OTHER ENTITIES THAT ARE IN AND AROUND THE GREATER TAMPA
AREA, THAT THIS IS THE TIME.
SO THIS IS ABOUT TELLING A STORY ABOUT THE PEOPLE AND PLACES
OF EAST TAMPA, RENEWED POSSIBILITIES.
IT'S ABOUT PUTTING SOME INSPIRATIONAL IDEAS OUT THERE TO
HELP PEOPLE MAYBE SEE EAST TAMPA IN A NEW WAY, IN WAYS THAT
KIND OF ARTICULATE THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE TOLD US IN THE
FIELD.
THAT DRIVES TOWARDS SOME SPECIFIC THEMES AND STRATEGIES,
WHICH I THINK BECOME KIND OF THE NORTH STAR FOR FUTURE
OPPORTUNITIES AS THEY COME TO EAST TAMPA AND COME TO YOU,
YOU CAN GO TO THE THEMES AND STRATEGIES AND SAY, THE
DECISION THAT'S BEFORE US TODAY, IS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
SPIRIT OF THE THEMES AND STRATEGIES AND SORT OF THE MISSION

STATEMENT THAT'S IN THE THEMES AND STRATEGIES?
AND THEN FINALLY, I THINK IT'S REALLY A CALL TO ACTION.
WE'VE SAID THE TIME FOR EAST TAMPA IS NOW.
THINGS ARE ON THE MOVE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO SORT OF REENERGIZE NOT JUST EAST TAMPA
BUT ALSO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ATTENTION ON THESE OTHER ISSUES.
TAMPA HEIGHTS, WE KNOW ALL THE HEADLINES ABOUT ALL THESE
OTHER AREAS.
WELL, NOW IT'S EAST TAMPA'S TIME AND EVERYBODY SHOULD BE
PAYING ATTENTION AT ALL LEVELS.
WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS REALLY STARTING IN THE LATE FALL
OF 2020.
WE DID THE BULK OF OUR WORK THROUGH 2021, AND THEN
PRESENTING A DRAFT MASTER PLAN IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR,
2022, AND THEN WE'VE BEEN REFINING AND EDITING AND WORKING
WITH STAFF, WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, ADDITIONAL PUBLIC
MEETINGS, ADDITIONAL REVISIONS TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.
YOU KNOW THAT IT IS A LARGE AREA.
THIS HAS BEEN MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES.
IT IS THE BIGGEST CRA.
BUT WE WENT INTO EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WALKED THE
NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE FOLKS THAT LIVE AND WORK AND ARE
RAISING FAMILIES AND INVESTING IN NEW BUSINESSES.
SO WE WALKED EVERY ONE OF THESE NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS TO REALLY

TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT THROUGH THE EYES OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
THERE TO SEE SOME OF THE BIG PROBLEMS BUT ALSO THE BROKEN
SIDEWALKS AND SOME OF THE LITTLE ISSUES.
WHAT I WOULD SAY ABOUT THIS PROCESS IS THAT JUST THIS
MORNING I'VE WRITTEN DOWN SOME NOTES, AND I'LL GO THROUGH
THESE SUPERFAST.
I'VE HEARD JUST IN THE CONVERSATION TODAY, WHICH HAS BEEN A
BIG EAST TAMPA CONVERSATION, HOUSING, HOUSING PROGRAMS,
ACQUISITION OF DIFFICULT PROPERTIES OR SORT OF PROBLEM
PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BEAUTIFICATION GRANTS,
MARKETING THE CRA, GOVERNANCE OF THE CRA, CRA ENGAGEMENT.
NEW HOUSING TYPES TO GET MULTIPLE, MAYBE MULTIPLE UNITS ON
CERTAIN KEY LOTS.
HOW WE THINK ABOUT CORRIDORS, HAVING A MAPPING SYSTEM.
15th STREET CORRIDOR PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT, CORRIDOR
FUNDING GRANTS.
SMALL BUSINESS FINANCE, ASSIGNING THE MANAGEMENT OF WORK
RESPONSIBILITIES, CONCIERGE SERVICE FOR SMALL DEVELOPERS
THAT NEED HELP.
AND EDUCATIONAL RETREAT SESSION FOR CAC MEMBERS.
ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE ALL THINGS THAT REALLY CAME OUT OF
THE PLAN AND ARE NOW BEING DISCUSSED AS THIS IS THE MISSION
AND THESE WERE ALL THINGS THAT WERE VERY MUCH SORT OF ILL
DEFINED OR UP IN THE AIR OR NOT REALLY DISCUSSED.
AND I THINK THE POINT ABOUT HAVING BROAD REPRESENTATION IN

REALLY THINKING ABOUT THAT GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE, THESE ARE
IMPORTANT IDEAS.
I THINK THE PLAN HAS SUSSED THE ISSUES OUT AND IT RECORDS
THEM SO THEY ARE ON PAPER.
YOU CAN COME BACK TO THEM IN THE FUTURE.
THERE ARE TEN COMMUNITY THEMES.
RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD BEAUTIFICATION, COMMUNITY HEALTH
AND SAFETY, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, LIVABLE STREETS AND
TRANSPORTATION, PARKS AND RECREATION, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL
SERVICES.
COMMUNITY-BASED COMMERCIAL SERVICES.
EMPLOYMENT AND JOB CREATION, CULTURE AND HOW WE MARKET
OURSELVES AND THEN ULTIMATELY LEADERSHIP, PARTNERSHIP, AND
THE CAPACITY BUILDING OF THE STAFF AND OF THE CAC.
THESE ARE THE BIG THEMES.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IN
DETAIL BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME.
I'M SURE MANY OF YOU HAVE READ THE REPORT PROBABLY IN FULL,
BUT AS YOU READ THE REPORT, I THINK THE THINGS TO SORT OF BE
LOOKING FOR AS YOU GO THROUGH THE SECTIONS, IS THAT WE'RE
TRYING TO SORT OF TALK TO MULTIPLE AUDIENCES AT DIFFERENT
ALTITUDES IN THE REPORT BOTH INTERNAL TO EAST TAMPA AS WELL
AS EXTERNAL TO EAST TAMPA.
THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY IS MEANT TO BE AN EIGHT-PAGE BRIEF
THAT JUST PUTS THE BIG IDEAS OUT THERE, EXPLAINS THAT THIS

WAS A COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY PROCESS, AND IT WAS A REALLY
KIND OF A RESET FROM THE GROUND UP FOR THE COMMUNITY AND
THAT THERE IS A LINKAGE BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY INPUT, THE
THEMES, THE WAY PROPERTY WAS ANALYZED TECHNICALLY, THE WAY
PROPERTY HAS BEEN ENVISIONED IN TERMS OF POSSIBILITIES IN
THE UPPER RIGHT AND ULTIMATELY HOW THAT COMES DOWN TO WHERE
WE SEE YOUR POTENTIAL TIF REVENUES GOING AND HOW YOU CAN
START TO ARTICULATE A FLEXIBLE BUDGET THAT YOU CAN ADJUST
OVER TIME BASED ON HOW THINGS GO.
AND I THINK PILOTING THINGS IS ABSOLUTELY A CORE TENET OF
THIS PLAN.
LET THINGS -- GIVE THINGS A CHANCE AND SEE HOW THEY GO AND
THEN ADJUST.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
THERE IS A SECTION ABOUT THE SORT OF BACKGROUND OF EAST
TAMPA.
FIRST OF ALL AS A COMMUNITY, DATING ALMOST BACK TO ITS
ORIGINS, NOT ORIGINALLY BEING PART OF THE CITY.
WHICH IS WHY SOME OF IT DOESN'T HAVE ACTUAL FIXED STORMWATER
AND URBAN SERVICES.
BUT THEN SPECIFICALLY KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THE MOVEMENT TO
ENGAGE EAST TAMPA AS A COLLECTED CRA AND GETTING THAT KIND
OF DOCUMENTED SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND, SO THAT THE REPORT
MAKES REFERENCE TO THE ORIGINAL TOPICS OF THE CRA, WHICH I
THINK ARE STILL VERY MUCH IN PLAY, JUST IN DIFFERENT

FORMATS.
BUT THOSE ORIGINAL TOPICS ALL STILL MATTER.
WE ALSO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT HAVE
HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS OF THE CRA.
FIRST OF ALL, THE POINT MADE MANY TIMES IS THAT THIS IS THE
BIGGEST CRA.
YOU CAN PUT ALL THE OTHER CRAs IN THIS AREA AND YOU STILL
HAVE ROOM TO SPARE.
AND THE OTHER POINT BEING THAT THIS CRA WAS PARTICULARLY
HARD HIT DURING THE RECESSION, AND THERE'S SOME LOST TIME.
IT'S NOT JUST LOST MONEY.
IT'S LOST TIME AND LOST SENSE OF MOMENTUM AND LOST COMMUNITY
COHESION.
SO YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH THIS INFORMATION AT A LATER
DATE, BUT WE'RE SORT OF LAYING A BASIS HERE FOR THE POSSIBLE
CONSIDERATION IN 2034, WHEN THIS CRA SUNSETS, THAT YOU MAY
WANT TO EXTEND THE CRA.
UNDER SOME NEGOTIATED TERMS AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE
DISCUSSED TODAY.
WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO LAY THE PREDICATE FOR THAT.
THIS IS A BIG, COMPLICATED AREA.
IT'S BEEN THROUGH SOME TOUGH TIMES.
HOWEVER, DESPITE THAT, WE ALSO DOCUMENTED AN ENORMOUS NUMBER
OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
IT'S JUST HARD TO SEE THEM ALL.

BECAUSE AS YOU SAID EARLIER, YOU CAN DO SOMETHING OVER HERE
AND YOU DON'T NOTICE IT OVER HERE.
SO THERE HAS BEEN A LOT ACCOMPLISHED BY THE COMMUNITY, BUT
WE NEED TO UP OUR GAME AND CONTINUE TO ADVANCE, AND WE NOW
ARE REALLY GOING TO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT.
THAT'S REALLY THE POINT OF THAT SECTION TALKING ABOUT THE
BACKGROUND AND HISTORY.
THE PUBLIC INPUT IS SIMPLY TO SAY THAT THERE WAS A VERY
DIVERSE, MULTIDIMENSIONAL APPROACH TO PUBLIC INPUT.
WE HAD TO DO A LOT OF THINGS KIND OF OUT OF THE BOX AND ON
THE FLY, RESPONDING TO THE COVID SITUATION, AND WE DID THOSE
THINGS.
AND EVERY SINGLE WORD THAT WAS WRITTEN DOWN ON ONE OF OUR
SURVEYS THAT WERE HANDED OUT ONLINE OR IN PERSON WAS
TABULATED, ORGANIZED, AND BROUGHT INTO THE LANGUAGE THAT'S
USED IN THE THEMES.
SO THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE THEMES ARE EITHER DIRECT
QUOTES OR THEY ARE DIRECT PARAPHRASES OF COMBINATIONS OF
THINGS THAT PEOPLE TOLD US.
ALL OF THE IDEAS ESSENTIALLY CAME FROM THE COMMUNITY IN ONE
MANNER OR ANOTHER, EITHER ON THE WALKS, IN MEETINGS, OR
THROUGH THE SURVEYS.
SO LOTS OF POINTS OF INPUT ON THIS PROJECT I THINK IS THE
POINT.
WE WANT TO HAVE THAT IN THE REPORT KIND OF FOR THE RECORD.

THE OTHER POINT THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR THIS BODY AND
OTHER BODIES WITHIN THE CITY IS SIMPLY TO SAY THAT ALL THIS
COMMUNITY INPUT CAME IN AND WE STARTED TO FORMULATE THESE
THEMES AROUND THAT INPUT AND AS WE STARTED TO LOOK AT WHAT
-- AND WE INTERVIEWED EACH OF YOU, MINUS ONE, WE INTERVIEWED
EACH OF YOU A YEAR AGO SUMMER TO SORT OF TALK ABOUT YOUR
THOUGHTS ABOUT THE AREA, AND WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT I THINK
IS REALLY ALIGNMENT BETWEEN WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING,
WHAT YOU ALL ARE INTERESTED IN AND, FRANKLY, WHAT A LOT OF
ASPECTS OF THE MAYOR'S T-3 PROGRAM ARE.
SO I FELT LIKE IT WAS WORTH IT TO TAKE A MOMENT IN THE
REPORT AND MAKE THAT COMMENT BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S
BEEN THE CASE IN THE PAST.
AND IT IS THE CASE TODAY.
I THINK WE HAVE REAL OPPORTUNITY TODAY THAT WASN'T THERE IN
PAST YEARS, PAST ADMINISTRATIONS, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO
CONTEXTUALIZE THAT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME TYPES OF ISSUES.
YOU'RE USING MAYBE SOME DIFFERENT WORDS, BUT THE TIME IS
NOW.
THE TIME TO ALIGN TAMPA MOVES TO WHAT THE KEY STREETS ARE IN
EAST TAMPA AND PARTNER MONEY AND WORK TOGETHER.
THE DOMINOES ARE SET UP FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
SO TALKING ABOUT THE THEMES.
I MENTIONED THE TEN THEMES BEFORE WE PRESENTED THEM

INITIALLY IN APRIL OF 2021, REFINED A LITTLE BIT WITH THE
COMMUNITY.
WE BROUGHT THEM BACK IN SEPTEMBER WITH SOME PRETTY
SUBSTANTIAL WORK ON WHAT THOSE THEMES MEAN IN TERMS OF
ACTIONS AS WELL AS SOME ADMINISTRATIONS OF WHAT IT MIGHT
LOOK LIKE IF YOU PUT THOSE ACTIONS INTO MOTION.
YOU'VE SEEN THE ILLUSTRATIONS IN THE REPORT, AND THAT WE'VE
BEEN REFINING AND WRITING THE REPORT AND DEALING WITH BUDGET
AND STUFF EVER SINCE.
HERE IS THE KEY POINT HERE.
AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS SECTION, WE ACTUALLY PAIRED UP THE
INPUT AND PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE INPUT THAT WE TOOK IN THE FIELD
WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE PAIRED THEM UP ONE FOR ONE WITH WHAT SORT OF THE INITIAL
ACTIONS ARE.
SO THERE'S SORT OF A SET OF ISSUES AND THERE'S SORT OF A
RESPONSE, AND THEY ARE PAIRED UP IN THAT WAY INTENTIONALLY
SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT THE IMAGES ON THE INPUT THEMATIC
SIDE AND SOME OF THOSE CAPTIONS, AND THEN YOU CAN LOOK AT
THE VERY NEXT PAGE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS BUT WE
WANT MORE OF THIS OR WE WANT TO START THINKING ABOUT THIS OR
WE WANT THINGS TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION.
SO THAT'S THE WAY ALL TEN THEMES ARE SET UP AND DESCRIBED.
AND THEN THEY ARE TRANSPOSED -- I'M JUST SHOWING THEME ONE,
WHICH WAS REALLY ONE OF THE BIG DRIVERS, OBVIOUSLY, HOUSING.

BUT THEN FOR EACH OF THE THEMES, THEY ARE ALL IDENTIFIED IN
TERMS OF PROJECTS, PROGRAMS, AND PARTNERSHIPS WITHIN THE
BUDGET.
SO EACH THEME IS -- OR EACH ACTION IS IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE
BUDGET AND THEN THERE IS A RUN OUT OF MONEY OVER TIME THAT
YOU CAN ALLOCATE AND BE FLEXIBLE OVER TIME IN TERMS OF HOW
YOU APPLY THOSE DOLLARS.
THEN WHAT WE FELT LIKE WAS IN CHAPTER 4, WE FELT LIKE --
I'VE WORKED ON DOZENS OF CRA PLANS FOR ALL DIFFERENT SIZE
SITUATIONS, DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND EVERYTHING.
AND WHAT WE REALLY FELT LIKE IN THIS CASE WAS WE REALLY
NEEDED TO LITERALLY ARTICULATE WHAT SOME OF THE
POSSIBILITIES ARE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT
THE WORDS MEAN BECAUSE A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS
BUT ALSO TO REALLY MAYBE SHOW EAST TAMPA IN A NEW LIGHT, IN
A WAY THAT MAYBE PEOPLE HAVEN'T CONSIDERED IT BEFORE, THAT
THERE ARE SPECIAL TYPES OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT REALLY ARE
AVAILABLE HERE, AND IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT IT THROUGH THESE
LIGHT.
SO WE STARTED SMALL.
EAST TAMPA WAS A PLACE THAT HAD AN INORDINATE NUMBER OF
STORMWATER PONDS.
AND THERE'S REALLY KIND OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL EQUITY QUESTION
HERE.
I MEAN, YOU WOULDN'T JUST GO INTO HYDE PARK AND SAY WE HAVE

A DRAINAGE PROBLEM.
LET'S GO BUY A BLOCK, TEAR DOWN THE HOUSES AND PUT A
STORMWATER POND IN, RIGHT?
THAT'S ENVIRONMENTAL EQUITY.
NOW, THOSE ARE DECISIONS FROM DECADES AGO.
THERE'S NOBODY IN THIS ROOM THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT BUT
THAT HAPPENED.
AND IT HAPPENED IN EAST TAMPA.
AND IT'S TIME NOW -- WELL, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT?
WELL, THIS IS A CALL TO ACTION TO SAY WE KNOW THAT WE WANT
BETTER PARKS AND RECREATION.
THAT'S A THEME.
WE KNOW THAT WE WANT BETTER LOCAL WALKABILITY AND MOBILITY.
THAT'S A THEME.
WE KNOW THAT WE WANT OUR STORMWATER AND OUR PHYSICAL
ENVIRONMENT TO LOOK BETTER.
THAT'S A THEME, APPEARANCE, RIGHT?
BUT WHAT IF WE COULD PUT THOSE TOGETHER?
THERE ARE LOCATIONS WHERE WE CAN COME IN AND INTERVENE WITH
A VERY LIGHT TOUCH ON THESE PONDS AND COME IN AND PROVIDE A
NEIGHBORHOOD PARK THAT'S OPERATING ON MULTIPLE LEVELS,
MULTIPLE DIMENSIONS.
AND SO AGAIN I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ALL OF YOUR TIME.
YOU'VE HAD A BIG MORNING.
I REALLY WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU.

THERE IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF THOUGHT THAT HAS BEEN PUT
INTO THE WORDS SELECTED FOR THE THEMES AND THE ACTIONS AND
THE IMAGERY THAT IS IN THESE DRAWINGS, WHICH I PERSONALLY
DREW THESE DRAWINGS MYSELF.
AND THE LABELS THAT ARE ON THESE DRAWINGS ARE REFERRING TO
SPECIFIC IDEAS.
AND WHAT WE REALLY DID WITH THESE IS WE TRIED TO TAKE -- YOU
KNOW, YOU CAN'T DO A DRAWING OF EVERY STREET CORNER IN A
4500-ACRE AREA, RIGHT?
BUT WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS IDENTIFY SOME ARCHETYPAL
SITUATIONAL THINGS THAT ARE COMMON IN EAST TAMPA AND DEAL
WITH THEM AND DEAL WITH THEM IN A WAY PEOPLE COULD
UNDERSTAND, SO THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT, MOBILITY
DEPARTMENT, EAST TAMPA RESIDENTS.
THE FUTURE LEADERS CAN SORT OF UNDERSTAND THE SPIRIT OF WHAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
22nd STREET WAS MENTIONED EARLIER AS AN IMPORTANT MAIN
STREET.
WE WANTED TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE SHOWED ON THE
RENEWAL OF 22nd STREET.
WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO PICK A PRIVATELY OWNED
BUILDING AND SAY THIS BUILDING SHOULD BE ACQUIRED AND TAKEN
AWAY AND SOMETHING SHOULD GO BACK.
BUT WE KNOW WHERE THOSE PROPERTIES ARE AND THE CRA KNOWS
WHERE THE TARGET PROPERTIES MIGHT BE AND WHERE SOME DEALS

MIGHT BE HAD.
WE TOOK A BUILDING THAT WE OWNED, WHICH IS THE BUILDING
KNOWN AS THE GATOR BUILDING, AND WE SHOWED A REPURPOSING OF
THAT BUILDING FOR RETAIL START-UP, COMMUNITY USE, COMMUNITY
BENEFIT, NEW STREETSCAPE AND AN ENLIVENING OF THAT STREET AS
A WAY TO GESTURALLY SAY WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE
HISTORIC MAIN STREET ON 22nd.
WE LOOKED AT THE BARRIO AREA, AND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY 15th
AND COLUMBUS.
AND THERE'S A WHOLE SET OF IDEAS HERE THAT HAVE TO DO --
SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER A GROCERY STORE.
I THINK IT WAS COUNCILMAN GUDES.
I WANT TO TELL YOU, WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT THOSE PROPERTIES
ON 26th WHERE 22nd AND 21st SPLIT, THAT TRIANGLE
PIECE, THAT WAS A KNIFE THROUGH THE HEART.
BECAUSE I WANTED TO DRAW THAT DRAWING FOR A SMALL GROCER TO
GO ON THAT PROPERTY BUT THAT TRAIN HAD SAILED.
IT WAS ALREADY OUT.
IT WAS GOING TO BE SINGLE-FAMILY.
WHERE IS ANOTHER SPOT THAT'S LIKE AN IMPORTANT KIND OF MAIN
AND MAIN LOCATION WHERE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO RECRUIT A SMALL
GROCER?
I THINK THERE'S ONE -- AND THIS IS KIND OF AN OUT-OF-THE-BOX
IDEA -- BUT I THINK THERE'S ONE AT THE CORNER OF COLUMBUS
AND 15th.

RIGHT NOW, YOU'VE GOT THAT TRIANGLE FLAT IRON SITE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND WE WENT AHEAD AND DREW SOME PLANS FOR HOW THIS ENTIRE
AREA COULD BE IMPROVED.
BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF THESE PLANS WHERE WE DID SOME
SET-ASIDE DRAWINGS.
AND WHAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT IS KIND OF A BOLD IDEA.
IF COLUMBUS WAS TWO-WAY AND THERE IS A SERIOUS CONVERSATION
ABOUT TWO-WAYING THE ONE-WAY PAIRS.
THEY DON'T NEED TO BE ONE WAY.
YOUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT.
IF COLUMBUS WAS TWO-WAYED, THERE'S REALLY NO REASON TO HAVE
THAT PROPERTY COMING THROUGH ON THAT TRIANGLE.
IF YOU COULD PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER, I TOOK AN ABSOLUTE, YOU
KNOW, THE 1A STANDARD, YOU KNOW, 15,000 SQUARE FOOT GROCERY
STORE THAT, YOU KNOW, 8 DIFFERENT GROCERY STORE COMPANIES
PUT ON THE GROUND, BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, AND I PUT
IT ON THAT SITE AND SAID YOU COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN
THE FUTURE.
THE POSSIBILITY FOR THAT IS THERE IF YOU WANT TO GET
SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN A PROMINENT LOCATION THAT WOULD BE
FROM A GROCER'S PERSPECTIVE WOULD BE MEANINGFUL TO REGIONAL
TRAFFIC, CONNECTED TO YBOR, CONNECTED TO EAST TAMPA,
ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THOSE.

AGAIN IT KILLED ME WHEN I HEARD THAT PROPERTY WAS GOING TO
BE -- I SAW THAT PROPERTY RIGHT AWAY, MR. GUDES.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE CORRIDORS.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT NOTE.
AGAIN, CONNECTING ISSUES THAT ARE ABSTRACT WITH ISSUES THAT
ARE PHYSICAL.
A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NEED TO, QUOTE, CLEAN UP AND
IMPROVE BORRELL PARK.
AND WE KNOW THAT'S ON THE PARK SYSTEM'S PLAN TO DO THAT
WORK, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME INHERENT PROBLEMS
ON NEBRASKA THAT ARE DRIVING THE CHALLENGES IN BORRELL PARK.
AND THIS WAS PROBABLY THE ONE INSTANCE WHERE WE DID ACTUALLY
PICK A SPECIFIC PRIVATE PROPERTY AND SAY, THESE ARE THE
KINDS OF PROPERTIES THAT YOU NEED TO GO AFTER, WHETHER PENNY
SAVER OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WALKED THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT WAS PROFOUND TO ME, THE NEIGHBORS ALL
KNOW WHERE THE PROBLEM SITES ARE, RIGHT?
IT'S TIME TO START INTERVENING.
I FRANKLY THINK WHETHER YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR THE MARKET TO
DO IT, BECAUSE THE MARKET WILL DO IT, OR IF YOU WANT TO GET
MORE PROACTIVE.
BUT I THINK THAT THAT HOTEL PROPERTY THAT'S ADVERTISING
ESSENTIALLY HOURLY RATES, THAT SHOULD BE ACQUIRED.
AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR TOWNHOMES, SOMEONE MENTIONED
EARLIER, WHERE YOU CAN ASSEMBLE PROPERTIES AND PUT TOGETHER

MAYBE LARGER PIECES OF PROPERTY TO HAVE SMALLER LOTS TO GET
THINGS IN AT A DIFFERENT PRICE POINT, DIFFERENT HOUSING
CHOICE.
WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW THAT IN THIS DRAWING.
THE CORRIDORS ARE THE PLACES TO DO THAT, NOT THE HEART OF
THE SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, HUMANIZING AND EVEN SHOWING THE BANNERS
AND SO FORTH AND TURNING NEBRASKA INTO AN ADDRESS.
SO THESE ARE VERY MULTIDIMENSIONAL DRAWINGS THAT REALLY ARE
TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS AT THE SAME TIME, BUT THEY ARE
ALL THINGS FIRMLY EMBEDDED IN THE TEN COMMUNITY THEMES.
AGAIN, COLUMBUS DRIVE.
THIS IS A VERY, VERY DIVERSE AREA.
IT'S GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT LAND USE TYPES.
I THINK THE COLUMBUS DRIVE AREA WAS JUST SORT OF SEEN AS THE
BACK.
IT WASN'T REALLY A FOCUS, FRANKLY, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WE WANTED TO SAY WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT
DRIVES.
WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT EMPLOYMENT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN CREATIVE
DOLLARS AND NEW OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAN GENERATE REVENUE BACK
INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS COMMERCIAL -- THIS MANUFACTURING AND INDUSTRIAL AREA
ALONG COLUMBUS DRIVE IS AN UNBELIEVABLE RESOURCE TO THE CRA,

BOTH FINANCIALLY AS WELL AS JOBS AND EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE
TRAINING, AND WE NEED TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT.
THERE ARE NOW WHEELS IN MOTION TO START TO EXPLORE THAT AS
SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW.
WE ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT -- WE'VE GOT THESE OTHER LARGE
CORRIDORS LIKE HILLSBOROUGH.
THERE IS A TIME AND A PLACE FOR WHAT I WOULD CALL SORT OF
MORE CONTEMPORARY SUBURBAN RETROFIT DEVELOPMENT, MID-RISE
DEVELOPMENT WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF COMMERCIAL.
WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS THIS IS THE FLEA MARKET SITE IN THE
LOWER RIGHT AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES
IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO IT IN THE OLD SEARS BUILDING.
AND WHAT WE SAID IS, OKAY, LOOK, THE PLACE FOR MID-RISE
DEVELOPMENT IS NOT IN THE HEART OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
BUT THESE CORRIDORS THAT ARE JUST COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, THEY
ARE UNDERPERFORMING, AND IT IS A SLAM-DUNK TO COME IN ON
THESE PROPERTIES AND DO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT
THERE IS AN AUDIENCE FOR AND PUT THESE PROPERTIES INTO
MOTION.
AND THE FACT THAT YOU NOW HAVE THE CITY'S EMPLOYMENT CENTER
GOING TO BE RIGHT NEAR HERE, EVEN DOUBLES DOWN ON THAT
PREMISE.
SO WE DID A DRAWING THAT SAID WELL MAYBE OVER TIME WE NEED
TO THINK ABOUT THESE CORRIDORS IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
SO WE DREW SOMETHING HERE THAT WAS URBAN.

IT'S WALKABLE.
IT HAS BLOCKS THAT ARE INTERCONNECTED WITH SIDEWALKS.
IT DOES PUT RETAIL UP ON HILLSBOROUGH BUT STARTS TO TREAT
HILLSBOROUGH AS A PARKWAY ROAD WITH TREES AND PROPER TRANSIT
OPPORTUNITIES AND SO FORTH.
BUT THEN IT STARTS TO BREAK DOWN AS IT GOES BACK TO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD INTO SORT OF A TOWNHOME KIND OF A CONCEPT THAT
CAN START TO RELATE TO THE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY BEHIND.
AND THEN TO THE LEFT, YOU SEE EVENTUALLY -- I MEAN,
EVENTUALLY THAT'S THAT -- THAT SEARS BUILDING WILL BECOME
OBSOLETE.
ONE COULD ARGUE IT IS OBSOLETE NOW.
THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A NEW TECH CAMPUS THAT CONTINUES
THE TRADITION OF MULTI-INSTITUTIONAL TRAINING AND EDUCATION
IN THAT SPACE.
THERE COULD ALSO BE OTHER OFFICING, MAYBE BUSINESS INCUBATOR
SITES THERE, MAYBE A BUSINESS CLASS HOTEL COULD GO INTO THAT
SITE.
SO ENORMOUS OPPORTUNITIES.
WE WANTED TO TACKLE WHAT'S IN YOUR FRONT YARD WHICH IS THAT
UGLY STORMWATER POND.
THIS IS A BIG AREA AND WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE AND
THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE LARGE CORRIDORS, TOO.
IT'S ALL PART OF THE SAME PICTURE OF EAST TAMPA.
FINALLY, WE ENDED ON THIS KIND OF MORE DRAMATIC SKETCH OF

THE POND ON 26th.
THERE IS OPPORTUNITY AND YOU MENTIONED AGAIN PUTTING
PROPERTIES TOGETHER.
WE ARE SHOWING IN THIS DRAWING OPPORTUNITIES TO COME IN AND
DO INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING HOMES AND ON VACANT
LOTS WE'RE SHOWING TOWNHOMES AND INCREMENTAL DEVELOPMENT.
YOU TALK ABOUT OTHER BUILDERS THAT WOULD WANT TO COME IN AND
DO THIS.
WE'RE SHOWING INCREMENTAL DEVELOPMENT, EVEN ENCROACHING INTO
THE POND.
WE DID ENGINEERING ANALYSIS WITH SUBCONSULTANT, WE THINK WE
CAN ENCROACH A LITTLE BIT IN THE POND AND BUY SOME LAND BACK
AND GET SOME EYES ON THE POND IN TERMS OF FRONT DOOR
TOWNHOMES AND THEN TURN THE POND INTO AN ENVIRONMENTAL
AMENITY, AN EDUCATIONAL AMENITY, A COMMUNITY GARDENING
AMENITY AND ULTIMATELY SOMETHING THAT PROVIDES VALUE FOR THE
NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE AND ENHANCE
QUALITY OF LIFE.
THEN I GET TO TECHNICAL INVENTORY, I DON'T WANT TO BORE YOU
WITH THIS.
IRONICALLY, THIS IS THE MAP AND EVERYTHING IN PURPLE IS
VACANT AND PUBLICLY OWNED.
WE DID SOME MAPS AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE A WHOLE OTHER
DISCUSSION.
BUT THERE'S A WHOLE SERIES OF MAPS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE

DRAWINGS.
WE DID THE 40 OR 45 SORT OF INVENTORY THINGS THAT ARE IN
GIS, BUT THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE THAT IN A
WAY THAT MAKES ANY SENSE?
SO WE DID SOME DIAGRAMS IN THERE THAT TALK INCREMENTAL ABOUT
THE DIFFERENT LAYERS OF COMMUNITY AND WHY NEBRASKA IS
DIFFERENT FROM HILLSBOROUGH, IS DIFFERENT FROM THE COLUMBUS
DRIVE CORRIDOR, AND THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THOSE ARTERIALS,
THERE ARE THREE ARTERIALS BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY VERY
DIFFERENT.
40th, HILLSBOROUGH, NEBRASKA, ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
AND THAT THOSE ARE ACTUALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE HISTORIC MAIN
STREETS WHICH YOU SEE IN THE LIGHTER PINK RUNNING
NORTH-SOUTH THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF EAST TAMPA.
THESE ROADS LIKE 34th AND 15th AND 22nd AND SO FORTH
AND SO ON, THAT'S THE PLACE TO REINVEST IN THIS INCREMENTAL
SORT OF LOCALLY OWNED BUSINESS, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF MIX
USE IF YOU CAN GET LIVE OVER WORK.
THAT'S THE PLACE TO THINK ABOUT THE THINGS.
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW IS COMPLETING A NEW LOOK
AT THE ZONING REGULATIONS TO BETTER ENABLE THIS TYPE OF
DEVELOPMENT ON 15th AS A CASE STUDY THAT COULD BE APPLIED
TO OTHER AREAS.
ALSO IN THE TECHNICAL SECTION IS THE WHOLE TIF GENERATION
THING.

WE TRIED TO BE PRETTY CONSERVATIVE WITH THE TIF GENERATION.
EVERYTHING THAT WE DID IN OUR BUDGETING WAS BASED ON THE LOW
PROJECTION AND WE SET A COMMON LOW PROJECTION, RECOGNIZING
WE DREW NUMBERS FROM A YEAR AGO WHEN WE DID THIS, WE SET THE
LOW PROJECTION FOR THIS YEAR, WHERE YOU'VE GOT WELL OVER $8
MILLION, WE SET IT AT 7.8 ACROSS THE BOARD AND THAT WE --
THEN WE STARTED DOING OUR PROJECTIONS FROM THERE.
I THINK REALITY FOR YOU IS CONSERVATIVELY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN
LOW AND MEDIUM AND THE POTENTIAL IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN MEDIUM
AND HIGH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMING YEARS.
HOWEVER, FOR THE PURPOSES OF BUDGETING FOR THE DOCUMENT, WE
COMPLETELY STUCK TO THE LOW PROJECTION.
WE REALLY FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THAT IS, AGAIN, UNLESS
THERE'S A MAJOR DISRUPTION IN THE WORLD IN THE WAY THAT
THERE WAS IN 2009, WE FEEL VERY SOLID ABOUT THOSE LOW
PROJECTIONS AS BEING THE FLOOR.
SO TO SUMMARIZE, I'M SORRY, PART SIX, WE'VE GOT THESE TEN
THEMES.
WE BROKE DOWN SORT OF WHAT SOME OF THE INITIAL FIRST STEPS
ARE ALONG WITH SORT OF THE PHILOSOPHICAL MISSION STATEMENT.
THEY ARE BAKED INTO THE BUDGETING SPREADSHEET.
AND I THINK THIS BECOMES A TOOL, AGAIN, FOR THE COMMUNITY TO
THINK ABOUT WHAT EAST TAMPA IS IN A NEW WAY AND BE ABLE TO
MORE THOUGHTFULLY AND IN A MORE HOLISTIC WAY THINK ABOUT
OPPORTUNITIES IN EAST TAMPA THAT CAN REALLY ELEVATE

OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYONE, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PLAN IS
ABOUT.
THANK YOU.
1:05:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE?
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:05:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN YOUR PRESENTATION.
THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THAT COMMUNITY CAN COME
BACK WHAT IT WAS ONCE.
WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT 15th AND 21st STREET, 21st
AVENUE I SHOULD SAY, USED TO BE A GROCERY STORE THERE.
ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE WAS A SERVICE STATION THERE FOR MANY
YEARS CALLED CUSCADEN PARK SERVICE.
YOU HAVE THE PARK CUSCADEN, I THINK THE ONLY PARK THAT HAS
TWO HALL OF FAME BASEBALL PLAYERS THAT COME FROM ONE PARK,
WHICH IS A RARITY.
WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY PAST AND PRESENT TO MAKE IT WHAT IT
IS TODAY.
SO THERE'S SOME SPARK THERE.
IT NEEDS A LITTLE ENERGY TO CATCH ON AND BE A FANTASTIC
AREA.
ALL THOSE HOMES ACROSS FROM 15th STREET, THERE WAS SORT OF
A SEMI HOUSE WHERE YOU COULD GO IN AND BUY A BEER BUT BUY
GROCERIES AT THE SAME TIME.
IT WAS A WALKABLE COMMUNITY.

YOU COULD WALK ALL OVER THE PLACE.
15th AND 26th AVENUE, THERE WAS A LITTLE PLACE CALLED --
BEFORE THAT IT WAS OF ALL THINGS FEED STORE, FEED FOR HOGS
AND CATTLE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THEN IT BECAME IDEAL SUNDRIES.
THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD BY NAME, BY PERSON, WHERE THEY LIVED
BECAUSE I WAS BORN THERE.
I'M NOT TRYING TO BRAG.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED THERE.
I UNDERSTAND THE REST OF THE PARK AND WHAT YOU SAID IS TRUE.
YOU COULD TURN SOMETHING NOT SO GOOD TODAY WITH THE NEW
TECHNOLOGY TO SOMETHING THAT IS BEAUTIFUL.
I COMMEND YOU FOR IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:06:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
1:06:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DRUMGO, 14 AND 15, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT
THE --
1:07:08PM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
THERE ARE TWO ITEMS.
THE FIRST IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE SAP ITSELF, WHICH WAS
VOTED 6-2 BY THE CAC.
THE SECOND ITEM IS THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES, APPROXIMATELY
$60,000 THAT WERE ADDED ON FOR SOME ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY
MEETINGS.
IT'S AN ADDITIONAL SCOPE.
I BELIEVE THAT IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS THE GOAL WAS TO GET

THROUGH THE PLAN ITSELF, HAVE THE PLAN ADOPTED AND ACCEPTED
AND THEN AGREED TO THAT ADDITIONAL SCOPE OF SERVICES AS A
CLOSEOUT.
SO THAT IS ITEM NUMBER 15.
THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS BUT THEY ARE BOTH RELATED TO
YOUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
1:07:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU'RE GETTING READY TO DO A REDEVELOPMENT
PLAN AGAIN, CORRECT?
1:07:48PM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
THAT IS ACCURATE, COUNCILMAN.
1:07:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I JUST HAVE A FEW THINGS AND WE CAN GET OUT
OF HERE.
YOU HAVE A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN COME UP.
SO THAT'S GOING TO SUPERSEDE THIS SAP, CORRECT?
1:08:00PM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
WELL, I'LL SAY YES, BUT TO SOME DEGREE, THERE
MAY BE SOME SLIGHT AMENDMENTS TO THE SAP AS WELL BASED UPON
THE CAC'S DESIRE, IT SOUNDED LIKE THIS BODY'S DESIRE TO SEE
THAT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN BE UPDATED.
1:08:17PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THE CONCEPT IS, THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN
IS SUPPOSED TO BE A MORE SPECIFIC WAY TO IMPLEMENT THE
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE A MORE
BROAD-BASED PLAN WHERE YOU HAVE BROADER CONCEPTS, SO IT'S
MUCH LIKE THE COMP PLAN.
THIS IS MORE LIKE THE ZONING TO IMPLEMENT THE COMP PLAN IN
SOME WAYS.
1:08:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I'M GOING TO SUPPORT BOTH ITEMS TODAY

HESITANTLY.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE PLAN, I WAS LOOKING FOR ACTIONABLE ITEMS.
I WAS LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT THE CONTRACT ASKED
FOR.
I DIDN'T SEE A LOT.
SOME THINGS WERE MISSING.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CONTROVERSY ABOUT THE $60,000, BUT
WE'VE GOT TO MOVE ON.
I CAN'T LET THIS HOLD US BACK FROM MOVING ON.
I'LL SUPPORT TO PAY GAI TO GET THEM DOWN THE ROAD SO WE CAN
MOVE FORWARD AND DO THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO TO GET THESE
ACTIONABLE THINGS MOVING.
THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN.
I'M READY TO KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD.
LET GAI MOVE DOWN THE ROAD AND WE MOVE SO WE CAN GET DOWN TO
SOME REAL WORK.
THAT'S WHERE I STAND.
1:09:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
1:09:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST QUICKLY, THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT DETAIL
IN HERE.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY HEARS ABOUT IT.
I PRESUME THAT THE 60,000 WE'RE PAYING FOR IS WORK THAT'S
ALREADY BEEN DONE.
1:09:38PM >> THAT'S ACCURATE.
1:09:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHETHER IT'S THIS CONSULTANT OR STAFF,

IDEALLY STAFF, I THINK WE OUGHT TO MAYBE AS A SEGUE TO THE
NEXT PLANNING PROCESS IS HAVE A BIG COMMUNITY TOWN HALL TO
TALK ABOUT THIS AND IT WOULD BE LED BY THE CRA BOARD AND
PROBABLY THE CRA CHAIR WITH COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES' HELP.
BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A WELL-ADVERTISED AND PROMOTED EVENT AND
IDEALLY WHAT IT WOULD DO IS AT THE END OF IT, WE WOULD ASK
FOR COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE WHERE PEOPLE COULD VOLUNTEER TO
HELP WITH CERTAIN PARTS OF IT AND WHATEVER NONPROFITS, OTHER
COMMUNITY GROUPS OUT THERE ALREADY COULD HAVE A LIST OR
TABLES TO GET PEOPLE TO SIGN UP TO SUPPORT.
WE HAD THAT HOUSING FAIR A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND HARDLY
ANYBODY SHOWED UP.
IT NEEDS TO BE WELL ADVERTISED AND NOT IN THE CONVENTIONAL
WAYS IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
BUT THE COMMUNITY WANTS US TO TRY TO BRING EVERYBODY
TOGETHER AND RALLY.
A LOT OF GREAT WORK HAS BEEN DONE.
WE NEED TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW ABOUT IT AND GET PEOPLE TO
RALLY AROUND IT AND ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY CAN DO TO
SUPPORT THIS.
1:10:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO APPROVE NUMBER 14.
1:10:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
1:10:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE A -- I'M SORRY.
I'M HUNGRY.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO AND A SECOND BY

BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL.
1:11:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
1:11:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
1:11:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
1:11:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
1:11:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
1:11:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
1:11:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
1:11:14PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:11:19PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A MOTION TO --
FOR NUMBER 15.
1:11:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
ROLL CALL.
1:11:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
1:11:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
1:11:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
1:11:32PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
1:11:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
1:11:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
1:11:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
1:11:36PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:11:47PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
RELATIVE TO ITEM 16, THIS IS THE COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT PLAN REWRITE FOR THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.

YOU ALL -- THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU ALREADY.
IT CAME TO YOU SEVERAL MONTHS AGO FOR PROCESSING.
IT'S BEEN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THEY FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT UNDER CHAPTER 163.
IT'S COMING BACK TO YOU IN YOUR CAPACITY AS CITY COUNCIL
NEXT THURSDAY TO ACTUALLY APPROVE IT BECAUSE ONLY CITY
COUNCIL CAN APPROVE AN AMENDMENT OR CHANGE TO THE COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UNDER STATE LAW YOU IN YOUR CAPACITY AS THE CRA MUST
RECOMMEND ITS APPROVAL TO YOURSELF AS CITY COUNCIL.
1:12:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
1:12:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOVED BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO, SECONDED BY
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL.
1:12:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
1:12:36PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
1:12:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
1:12:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
1:12:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
1:12:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
1:12:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
1:12:43PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:12:44PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THEN ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A CONSENT AND
RELEASE AGREEMENT THAT THE COLUMBIA OPERATING COMPANY HAS

EXECUTED IN FAVOR OF THE CITY TO ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH THE STREET LIGHTING AND ARCHWAY PROJECT IN YBOR CITY.
1:13:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
ROLL CALL.
1:13:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
1:13:07PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
1:13:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
1:13:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
1:13:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
1:13:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
1:13:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
1:13:13PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:13:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
ANY INFORMATION?
DOES ANYONE HAVE REPORTS?
COUNCILMAN -- I'M SORRY, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
1:13:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
QUICKLY.
ANOTHER STORY ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE.
THIS BOARD HAS SUPPORTED THE JACKSON HOUSE OVER THE YEARS
AND WE KNOW THE ISSUES AND FRUSTRATED BY IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THREE QUICK MOTIONS.
NUMBER ONE, THAT THE CRA BOARD ASK STAFF TO ASK THE ADJACENT
PROPERTY OWNERS FOR A PROPOSAL TO BUY SUFFICIENT SPACE
ADJACENT TO THE JACKSON HOUSE TO ALLOW FOR RENOVATION.

AND THEN REPORT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING.
1:13:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL HESITANTLY SECOND THAT, BUT I WISH
THIS WASN'T NECESSARY AND PEOPLE COULD JUST ACCOMMODATE
CONSIDERING THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE JACKSON HOUSE AND THE
EXORBITANT COSTS TO RESTORE THIS.
1:14:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, SECONDED
BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
1:14:15PM >> AYE.
1:14:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO WE HAVE A DATE ON THAT THAT YOU WANTED
THAT?
1:14:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE NEXT, WHATEVER -- SEPTEMBER MEETING.
THE SECOND, AND SITTING WITH THE CITY -- MORRIS WON'T LET ME
TALK ABOUT THIS -- THE HAMMER OPTION IS EMINENT DOMAIN BUT
WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT NOW.
THAT'S WHY I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO OFFER IN ADVANCE.
IN CONNECTION WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SECOND
MOTION THAT THE CRA BOARD REQUEST THAT STAFF ASK THE JACKSON
HOUSE FOUNDATION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF BUYING THE JACKSON
HOUSE AND THE LAND AND THEN REPORT BACK TO US NEXT MONTH
ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT.
THE REASON WOULD BE, AS I UNDERSTAND THE LAW, IT WOULD BE
EASIER FOR US TO WORK ON OTHER SOLUTIONS IF WE CONTROLLED
THE LAND.
I CAN TALK ABOUT IT MORE IF YOU WANT.

1:15:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
1:15:11PM >> AYE.
1:15:14PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE THIRD ONE WOULD BE TO ASK FOR THE CRA
BOARD TO ASK STAFF -- BY THE WAY, THE LAST ONE WAS REPORT
BACK IN SEPTEMBER ALSO -- THIS ONE WOULD BE CRA BOARD WOULD
ASK THE CRA STAFF TO ASK USF, THE HISTORY CENTER AND THE
JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION, TO TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD
TAKE TO REBUILD THE JACKSON HOUSE IN THE CASE THAT IT FALLS
DOWN AND THEY REPORT BACK IN SEPTEMBER.
YOU ALL MAY KNOW MANHATTAN CASINO, SIMILAR IMPORTANT AFRICAN
AMERICAN BUILDING IN ST. PETERSBURG.
IT WAS NOT SALVAGEABLE SO THEY REBUILT THE WHOLE THING.
YOU ALL KNOW I BELIEVE THAT THE LOCATION OF THIS IS
IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT NOT ONLY TELLS THE STORY OF PEOPLE THAT
WERE THERE BUT TELLS THE STORY OF SEGREGATION OF TAMPA AND I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IT STAY THERE.
SO THE MOTION WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD ASK STAFF TO COME BACK
TO REPORT ON WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO START PLANNING REBUILDING
IT IN THE EVENT THAT IT FALLS DOWN.
1:16:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
1:16:25PM >> AYE.

1:16:25PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THESE MOTIONS ARE FINE, BUT MOST OF THEM
WILL HAVE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED BY CITY STAFF AND NOT CRA
STAFF.
CITY STAFF WILL BE THE ONE THAT WOULD HAVE TO APPROACH ABOUT
THE POSSIBILITY WITH THE REAL ESTATE POSSIBILITIES ARE
THROUGH OUR REAL ESTATE STAFF.
I WANT TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE THAT WHEN THE REPORT COMES BACK
THROUGH, MR. DRUMGO OR MS. TRAVIS, IT'S GOING TO BE FOLKS,
THE CITY DEPARTMENTS WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO
THEM.
WE'LL SEE WHERE WE ARE IN SEPTEMBER.
1:17:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
HIS BIRTHDAY WAS ON THE 10th.
[ APPLAUSE ]
1:17:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
I DON'T THINK YOU WANT US TO SING, BUT WE CAN.
[ LAUGHTER ]
ANYTHING?
1:17:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S
TAKING SO LONG IN REFERENCE TO THE LOGO FOR THE EAST TAMPA
OR THE CRA, BUT FOR ME IT -- THE LAST ONE I SAW, I ADMIT IT
WAS HORRIBLE.
IT WAS HORRIBLE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S TAKING SO LONG.
ALSO THE SIGNAGE, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY

WITH THE HOUSE THING, I THINK THE SIGN NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE
BIGGER.
NOBODY CAN SEE IT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS.
WE NEED TO HAVE A SIGN THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE AND SEE WHAT'S
GOING ON.
1:17:54PM >> IF I MAY, ON THE MARKETING PIECE AND THE LOGO, IT DOES
TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK.
THERE'S PROCUREMENT AND WE DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT
PROCESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER A PACKAGE TO PROCURE THOSE
SERVICES.
INITIALLY, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN I SENT OUT COMMUNICATION
TO EACH OF YOU SEPARATELY ON THE PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED LOGO
THAT HAD BEEN WORKED ON, AHEAD OF MY ARRIVAL HERE, THE
FEEDBACK WAS NOT GREAT.
SO WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE CYCLE OF TALKING ABOUT BRANDING
AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR YOU AS A BOARD.
IT WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT FROM THE MARKETING PERSPECTIVE, WE WANT
TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE.
I DO.
I REALLY NEED SOME APPROVAL ON A TEMPORARY LOGO, A
PLACE-HOLD THAT WILL ALLOW US TO GET IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA
SPACES SO WE CAN GO OUT AND PUT THE WORD OUT THERE WHILE WE
WORK ON THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH BRANDING AND HAVING
THOSE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH EACH OF YOU.

IT'S MORE THAN JUST --
1:18:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DRUMGO, WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND, CITY
ASIDE, WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGN AREA IN THE CITY.
WE HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE AND PAY TO HAVE A LOGO DONE.
1:19:05PM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
SCOPE OF SERVICES IN MY IN-BOX NOW.
WE COULD DO AN EXERCISE WITH YOU TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'D
LIKE, AGAIN, PROCESS-WISE, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S BENEFICIAL
TO HAVE SOME PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE -- THAT WE HAVE DO IT.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO, MS. PARKS HAS BEEN GREAT ABOUT JUMPING IN
ON THE CRA WORK AND WORKING ON THE MARKETING AND BRANDING
AND WE CAN CERTAINLY SET UP INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS TO TAKE
FEEDBACK FROM EACH OF YOU AND DESIGN SOMETHING BASED UPON
THAT FEEDBACK.
AGAIN, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE MARKETING PROFESSIONALS DO
THAT WITH YOU.
1:19:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
1:19:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS IS SOMETHING I DO IN MY DAY JOB.
THERE IS A LONG PROCESS AND SHORT PROCESS.
ONE THING THAT WOULD HELP IS IF EACH OF US WOULD SEND
SOMEBODY ONE SENTENCE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT YOU THINK THE CRA
IS AND THEN FIVE WORDS THAT ARE ATTRIBUTES YOU THINK
DESCRIBE IT.
THE PROBLEM WITH WHAT THEY SENT IS THAT THERE'S NO OBJECTIVE
CRITERIA TO DECIDE WHETHER IT'S GOOD OR NOT.
I THINK SEVERAL OF US HAD THE SAME REACTION.

SOMETHING ULTIMATELY SUBJECTIVE HAS TO BE DESCRIBED BY
OBJECTIVE WAYS.
IF THE BRIEF IS THAT, IF YOU'RE BUYING CLOTHES AND THE BRIEF
IS SOMEBODY NEEDS BUSINESS ATTIRE SO THEY CAN GO TO A
MEETING FULL OF LAWYERS, WE WOULD ALL HAVE EXPECTATIONS
ABOUT WHAT IT IS.
IF THE BRIEF IS, PLEASE BUY CLOTHES, SOMEBODY COULD SHOW UP
WITH A BATHING SUIT ON.
WE NEED TO HAVE SOME CRITERIA TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT SHOULD
BE.
1:20:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT?
1:20:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I TALKED TO SOMEBODY ABOUT IT.
I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS THEY ARE LOOKING AT.
1:20:37PM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
SURE.
I'VE GIVEN DIRECTION TO TALK TO YOUR AIDES AND SCHEDULE TIME
TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
AGAIN, WE CAN DO A TEMPORARY PLACE-HOLD WHILE WE WORK
THROUGH THAT PROCESS, BUT THE INSPIRATION WOULD BE GREAT AND
HELP MOVE US TOWARDS A LOGO SOONER.
1:20:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYTHING ELSE?
1:20:56PM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
IT'S A BIG DECISION.
1:20:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
TALKED ABOUT LANDSCAPING, HAVE MARY GIVE
THE CLERK'S OFFICE PROPER FORMS, REGARDING LANDSCAPE TO THE
CRA BOARD, WHAT TYPE OF LANDSCAPING WE CAN USE IN THOSE
AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

AND THAT THAT BE FLORIDA FRIENDLY, THAT THE FLORIDA FRIENDLY
WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THE EYESIGHT AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THAT
IT BE A LOW-COST MAY NOT.
THAT'S IT.
I'LL GIVE THAT TO YOU.
1:21:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA
AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
1:21:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
1:21:36PM >> SECOND.
1:21:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
SEE YOU TONIGHT.
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