CITY OF TAMPA
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 2022
9:00 A.M.
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09:02:48AM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
09:02:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY
09:02:54AM COUNCIL MEETING HELD THIS DAY.
09:02:57AM WOW, THE FIRST DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2022.
09:03:00AM LET'S HAVE -- I AM SORRY, PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
09:03:07AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU HAVE THE INVOCATION TODAY.
09:03:11AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, COUNCILMEMBERS
09:03:15AM AND CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
09:03:17AM I HAVE THE GREAT PRIVILEGE TO INTRODUCE A FRIEND OF MINE AND
09:03:21AM AN ALUMNI OF TAMPA BAY TECH AND PASTOR TUCKER JOHNSON.
09:03:28AM SHE IS A PASTOR OF THE CHRIST CHURCH.
09:03:30AM A YOUTH MINISTER.
09:03:32AM AND EDUCATED OVER 40 YEARS.
09:03:35AM I WORKED WITH HER AT ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL AND PRESIDENT OF
09:03:40AM THE TAMPA JUNETEENTH COALITION AND SERVES AS A STATE
09:03:43AM REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE NATIONAL JUNETEENTH OBSERVANCE
09:03:47AM FOUNDATION.
09:03:47AM THIS MORNING, I GIVE YOU MISS TUCKER-JOHNSON FOR THE
09:03:51AM INVOCATION.
09:03:51AM [APPLAUSE]
09:03:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE RISE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
09:03:57AM INVOCATION.
09:03:58AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:03:58AM I WILL ASK EVERYONE TO BOW THEIR HEADS FOR PRAYER THIS
09:04:02AM MORNING.
09:04:02AM ETERNAL HOLY SPIRIT, AS QUESTION COME OF A THRONE OF GRACE
09:04:07AM WITH A BOWED HEAD AND HUMBLE HEART.
09:04:10AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU.
09:04:11AM THANK YOU FOR OUR MAYOR, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS AND LEADERS AT
09:04:15AM EVERY LEVEL OF OUR CITY.
09:04:16AM GIVE THEM GRACE TO BRING TRUTH, JUSTICE AND STABILITY TO OUR
09:04:21AM REGION.
09:04:21AM GIVE THEM POWER TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND RULE IN FAIRNESS.
09:04:24AM MAY OUR COMMUNITY BE KNOWN FOR ITS JUSTICE AND THE RESPECT
09:04:28AM OF ONE ANOTHER IN OUR DIFFERENCES AND IDEAS.
09:04:31AM AND KEEP US, LORD, WITH AN OPEN HEART OF LOVE FOR ONE
09:04:35AM ANOTHER.
09:04:36AM IN JESUS'S NAME, AMEN.
09:04:38AM >> AMEN.
09:04:39AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:04:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WITH YOU THAT IS A VERY
09:04:56AM SPECIAL YOUNG LADY.
09:04:57AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE HER?
09:04:59AM >> YES.
09:04:59AM THANK YOU.
09:05:00AM THIS IS OUR JUNIOR MISS JUNETEENTH.
09:05:03AM SHE IS 13 YEARS OLD.
09:05:05AM THIS IS JERILIS CARMONA, A STUDENT AT YOUNG MAGNET SCHOOL.
09:05:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WELCOME.
09:05:14AM YOU WERE THERE WHEN YOU GOT CROWNED.
09:05:16AM YOU WILL HAVE A GREAT YEAR.
09:05:18AM ENJOY IT.
09:05:19AM >> THANK YOU.
09:05:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL PLEASE.
09:05:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:05:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:05:26AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:05:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:05:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:05:30AM >>CLERK: WE HAVE OF A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:05:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL BE JOINING US SHORTLY.
09:05:35AM MR. MASSEY.
09:05:36AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.
09:05:37AM THIS IS THE SEPTEMBER 1, 2022 MEETING OF THE TAMPA CITY
09:05:43AM COUNCIL HELD IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF
09:05:46AM OLD CITY HALL, 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:05:49AM THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO ATTEND IN TERN OR VIEW IT ON CABLE
09:05:54AM TELEVISION SPECTRUM 640 OR FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 OR VIA
09:05:59AM INTERNET, TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:06:03AM THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE TO THIS MEETING WITH
09:06:06AM PUBLIC COMMENT WITH A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.
09:06:09AM EITHER HERE IN PERSON IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS OR BY WAY OF
09:06:13AM COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, CMT.
09:06:16AM USE OF CMT REQUIRES PREREGISTRATION FOR THE CITY'S CLERK'S
09:06:21AM OFFICE.
09:06:21AM NOTICE IS ON THE IN AGENDA.
09:06:25AM AND CAN PARTICIPATE IN QUASI JUDICIAL MATTERS BY CMT AND
09:06:31AM SMARTPHONES AND CELL PHONES ARE NOT COMPARTABLE BECAUSE DO
09:06:35AM NOT ALLOW YOUR CAMERA TO HAVE ACCESS.
09:06:38AM YOU MUST HAVE A TABLET OR COMPUTER EQUIPPED WITH A CAMERA
09:06:41AM AND MICROPHONE THAT ENABLE TO YOU BE SEEN AND HEARD BY CITY
09:06:45AM COUNCIL AND ALL OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN THE QUASI JUDICIAL
09:06:48AM MANNER.
09:06:48AM CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO WAIVE RULES AND TO HAVE PARTICIPATION
09:06:54AM BY CMT?
09:06:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:06:58AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:06:59AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:07:00AM AYE.
09:07:01AM ANY OPPOSED.
09:07:03AM THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY, OUR AGENDA REVIEW.
09:07:05AM CEREMONIAL WHICH IS NUMBER ONE.
09:07:08AM ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES WHICH OUR CHIEF IS HERE AND WILL BE
09:07:11AM GIVING A FEW BRIEF WORDS.
09:07:12AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, WE WILL BE AMERICA THAT.
09:07:18AM EXCELLENT.
09:07:18AM NUMBER FOUR.
09:07:20AM OKAY.
09:07:21AM NUMBER FIVE.
09:07:22AM I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO CONTINUE ITEMS 6 AND 7 TO NOVEMBER 3.
09:07:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 6 AND 7 TO
09:07:32AM NOVEMBER 3 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:07:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:07:37AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:07:39AM ALL IN FAVORITE FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:07:42AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.
09:07:44AM OKAY, VERY GOOD ON THAT ONE.
09:07:46AM NUMBER 9?
09:07:49AM THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:07:51AM I THOUGHT YOU WOULD WANT TO CHECK THAT.
09:07:54AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10?
09:07:59AM I HAVEN'T HEARD WHERE MR. CARLSON IS RIGHT NOW.
09:08:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BETTER HOLD THAT.
09:08:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NUMBER 11?
09:08:07AM OKAY, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S.
09:08:09AM NUMBER 12?
09:08:13AM COUNCILMAN GUDES -- OCTOBER 6.
09:08:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE.
09:08:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:08:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:08:21AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:08:23AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:08:24AM OPPOSED?
09:08:25AM THANK YOU.
09:08:25AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:08:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, YES.
09:08:33AM WE CAN PULL THAT.
09:08:34AM ABSOLUTELY.
09:08:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NUMBER 14, AND THAT IS COUNCILMAN
09:08:42AM MANISCALCO.
09:08:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:08:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL ALSO BE HAVING SOMETHING SUBMITTED
09:08:46AM PULLING UP NUMBER 36 IN WHICH WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS WITH
09:08:53AM THE CHIEF.
09:08:54AM AND 14.
09:08:58AM OKAY.
09:09:01AM ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE --
09:09:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT UNTIL 10:30.
09:09:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHERE AM I AT ON HERE?
09:09:14AM A COUPLE THAT NEED TO BE STRICKEN BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT BE
09:09:17AM HEARD.
09:09:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:09:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:09:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AFTER CEREMONIALS --
09:09:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE YOU DOWN FOR THAT.
09:09:28AM YES, SIR, I HAVE YOU DOWN FOR THAT.
09:09:30AM YES, SIR?
09:09:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BELIEVE THAT 53 WILL BE MADE A MOTION
09:09:34AM OR DISCUSSION ANYWAY REGARDING THE -- FIRST ONE ON THE
09:09:37AM AGENDA --
09:09:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 53 TO BE THE FIRST ONE ON THE AGENDA AT
09:09:42AM 9:30.
09:09:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
09:09:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: RIGHT AFTER STAFF REPORTS.
09:09:45AM MERIDIAN MIRANDA THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YES, SIR.
09:09:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE GETTING THERE.
09:09:56AM OKAY, GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR MOTION.
09:09:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 60, A REQUEST TO CONTINUE
09:10:01AM THAT TO SEPTEMBER 15.
09:10:04AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK WE HAVE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC
09:10:06AM HEARING AT 1:30.
09:10:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM SORRY.
09:10:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE WE GOOD ON THE AGENDA.
09:10:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
09:10:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:10:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
09:10:21AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:10:22AM THANK YOU.
09:10:22AM LET'S BEGIN WITH YOUR CEREMONIALS.
09:10:27AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:10:29AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
09:10:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.
09:10:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TAKE YOUR TIME.
09:10:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: INTRODUCE THE HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE
09:10:43AM THAT COMES BEFORE US EVERY YEAR.
09:10:47AM THEY WILL LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION INVITING US TO GREAT
09:10:51AM EVENT.
09:10:52AM >> GOOD MORNING, I AM MELISSA MARTINEZ, I AM THE CHAIR FOR
09:10:55AM THE HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE.
09:10:57AM AND WE ARE HERE TODAY TO EXTEND THIS INVITATION TO THE
09:11:02AM HISPANIC CELEBRATION.
09:11:04AM 34th YEAR CELEBRATING HISPANIC HERE IN TAMPA THE CELEBRATION
09:11:10AM WILL BE ON OCTOBER 11 AT 11:00 IN THE MORNING.
09:11:13AM IT IS GOING TO BE -- WE WILL BE BACK TO TAMPA THEATRE.
09:11:17AM WE HAVEN'T BEEN THERE SINCE, UNFORTUNATELY, COVID, BUT
09:11:22AM ANTICIPATE TO GO BACK THERE.
09:11:23AM OUR GUEST SPEAKER IS BENITO LOPEZ.
09:11:26AM A SCIENCE TEACHER.
09:11:29AM AND THE EDUCATOR OF THE YEAR AWARD.
09:11:31AM FROM RUMBA 106.5 WILL BE THE EMCEE AND TAMPA BAY FLAMENCO
09:11:44AM GROUP WILL PROVIDE ENTERTAINMENT.
09:11:46AM THIS EVENT IS FREE TO THE PUBLIC AND WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE
09:11:49AM YOU THERE.
09:11:49AM THANK YOU.
09:11:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:11:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 34 YEARS THEY ARE DOING THIS -- NOT THAT
09:11:55AM I HAVE BEEN HERE 34 YEARS, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER
09:11:58AM THAN I HAVE.
09:11:59AM BUT YOU REPRESENT THE HISPANIC HERITAGE VERY WELL.
09:12:03AM [SPEAKING SPANISH]
09:12:06AM >> GRACIAS.
09:12:08AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:12:09AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE PROMOTE DIVERSITY IN THE CITY.
09:12:14AM I HAVE BEEN TO SEVERAL EVENTS WITH THE ORGANIZATION DURING
09:12:17AM CHRISTMAS TIME.
09:12:17AM AND LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING BACK TO IN-PERSON.
09:12:22AM I TOLD MY AIDE, CT, TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT ON THE
09:12:28AM CALENDAR.
09:12:29AM >> FOR SURE.
09:12:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:12:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CONGRATULATIONS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
09:12:34AM PARTICIPATING FOR FIRST TIME.
09:12:35AM AND CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING BACK TO PERSON.
09:12:38AM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
09:12:40AM >> THANK YOU.
09:12:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:12:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS.
09:12:46AM WELCOME BACK.
09:12:46AM YOU MENTIONED BEFORE COVID, WE HAVEN'T MET THERE.
09:12:49AM ALWAYS A WONDERFUL EVENT AND CELEBRATION.
09:12:51AM I AM GLAD THAT YOU ARE HERE AND YOUR COMMITTEE AND ALL THE
09:12:54AM WORK YOU DO AND HOW YOU REPRESENT THIS COMMUNITY.
09:12:55AM BECAUSE TAMPA WAS BUILT BY IMMIGRANTS.
09:12:58AM YOU KNOW MY PARENTS ARE BOTH IMMIGRANTS.
09:13:00AM MY MOTHER IS A CUBAN REFUGEE.
09:13:02AM COUNCILMAN VIERA'S FAMILY ALSO FROM CUBA.
09:13:05AM SO WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE -- THE SOLID FOUNDATION THAT
09:13:10AM THIS COMMUNITY HAS.
09:13:11AM AND YOU KEEP THE -- YOU KNOW, YOU KEEP THE HERITAGE ALIVE.
09:13:15AM AND KEEP IT GOING.
09:13:17AM SO WE ARE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL FOR THIS AND WE LOOK FORWARD
09:13:20AM TO ATTENDING.
09:13:21AM >> THANK YOU.
09:13:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:13:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:13:26AM THANK YOU ALL FOR YOU DO.
09:13:28AM I AM PROUD OF MY CUBAN-AMERICAN AND HISPANIC HERITAGE.
09:13:32AM ALWAYS, ALWAYS.
09:13:33AM PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC THINK THEY HAVE HISPANICS NAILED SO TO
09:13:39AM SPEAK OF WHAT WE BELIEVE, WHO WE ARE.
09:13:42AM ETC., ETC.
09:13:43AM YOU HAVE THREE HISPANICS IN THE ROOM YOU WILL HAVE 12
09:13:47AM DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON CERTAIN THINGS.
09:13:49AM THE THINGS THAT UNITE HISPANICS ARE LOVE OF COUNTRY.
09:13:52AM WE ARE VERY PATRIOTIC.
09:13:55AM APPRECIATIVE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN.
09:13:58AM HARD WORK.
09:13:58AM WE APPRECIATE HARD WORK.
09:14:00AM FAMILY, WE VALUE FAMILY.
09:14:02AM AND FAITH.
09:14:03AM WE ARE PEOPLE OF FAITH.
09:14:05AM I KNOW THAT IS CERTAINLY TRUE FOR MY FAMILY.
09:14:07AM SO JUST THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL THAT YOU DO AND HERE ON
09:14:11AM COUNCIL, WE TRY TO DO THINGS TO LAUD OUR HISPANIC HERITAGE.
09:14:16AM WE ARE WORKING TO HELP MARTI WHICH IS A SMALL PART OF OUR
09:14:22AM HISPANIC HERITAGE.
09:14:24AM THANK YOU.
09:14:25AM >> GRACIAS.
09:14:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:14:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: IMMIGRANTS BLYTHE BUILT HERE AND BY THE
09:14:39AM ENGLISH COLONIES AND THE SPANISH COLONIES.
09:14:43AM RECOGNIZE ALL THE HISTORY GOOD AND BAD, BUT THE COLONIZATION
09:14:49AM AND THE HISPANICS THAT HELPED BUILD OUR RICH COMMUNITY.
09:14:51AM A LOT THE BEST PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY INCLUDING THE CUBAN
09:14:57AM SANDWICH IS BY HISPANICS DESPITE WHATEVER THE HISTORIANS
09:15:01AM SAY.
09:15:01AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO AND LET US KNOW
09:15:05AM INDIVIDUALLY AND TOGETHER HOW WE CAN HELP.
09:15:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I CANNOT WAIT FOR THIS.
09:15:09AM THIS IS ONE OF THE FESTIVALS, ONE OF THE CELEBRATIONS THAT I
09:15:13AM WAIT FOR ALL YEAR.
09:15:14AM WHEN I JUST MOVED TO TAMPA IN '74, THE FIRST TASTE OF THE
09:15:18AM HISPANIC CULTURE WAS YBOR CITY AND THEN WEST TAMPA.
09:15:22AM WITHOUT THE HISPANICS AND OTHER MINORITIES THAT CAME TO THE
09:15:28AM TAMPA AREA, THIS CITY WOULD NOT BE WHAT IT IS TODAY.
09:15:31AM I THANK YOU FOR CELEBRATING THE HISPANIC HERITAGE.
09:15:33AM ON THE FOOTNOTE, ONE OF THE BEST THINGS I SAW AT YOUR
09:15:38AM CELEBRATION WHEN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TOOK COUNCILMAN CAPIN'S
09:15:43AM HAND AND THEY STARTED DOING THE SALSA LIVE ON STAGE.
09:15:47AM ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.
09:15:47AM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
09:15:48AM AND I CAN'T WAIT TO BE THERE.
09:15:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES THAT MEAN YOU WILL BE MY PARTNER
09:15:53AM THIS YEAR?
09:15:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONLY IF I CAN LEAD.
09:15:55AM ONLY IF I CAN LEAD.
09:15:56AM [LAUGHTER]
09:16:01AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:16:03AM >> THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD DAY.
09:16:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF.
09:16:09AM I AM GETTING WAY AHEAD OF MYSELF HERE.
09:16:11AM AT THIS TIME WE WILL BE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:16:23AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:16:24AM YOU ARE ALREADY UP.
09:16:37AM I HAVE BEEN OVERRULED.
09:16:39AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION TO MAKE TO
09:16:42AM ONE OF OUR OWN.
09:16:43AM WHERE IS MICHEL?
09:16:45AM BRING MICHEL IN, PLEASE.
09:16:46AM WHERE IS MISS TONYA AND THE REST OF THE CREW?
09:16:57AM MISS SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES.
09:17:02AM MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCILMEMBERS, GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
09:17:04AM MY DISTINCT PLEASURE -- WELL, I AM SADDENED THAT WE ARE
09:17:12AM LOSING ONE OF OUR OWN, ONE IN OUR OWN HOUSE, MICHEL MATOS.
09:17:19AM SHE HAS BEEN WITH US WORKING HARD THROUGH COVID, WORKING
09:17:21AM HARD EVERY DAY WHEN WE NEED PEOPLE TO WORK FOR US.
09:17:24AM SHE IS MOVING ON TO BIG BLUE.
09:17:27AM BETTER BE CAREFUL OVER THERE.
09:17:30AM IT'S A DIFFERENT PLACE.
09:17:33AM BECAUSE WE LOVED YOU HERE.
09:17:35AM BUT EVERYBODY WANTS TO VENTURE OUT AND LEARN NEW THINGS AND
09:17:39AM DO THINGS.
09:17:39AM THAT'S WHAT BEING AN EMPLOYEE IS ABOUT, OPPORTUNITY WITHIN
09:17:43AM THE CITY.
09:17:43AM SO YOU -- DO YOU.
09:17:48AM BE YOU.
09:17:49AM SMILE LIKE YOU ALWAYS SMILE.
09:17:51AM BUT WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO GO BECAUSE WE KNOW
09:17:57AM TODAY IS YOUR LAST DAY, SO WE HAVE TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING
09:18:00AM SPECIAL.
09:18:00AM KIND OF CHOKED UP BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS HAVE BEEN A SOLDIER
09:18:03AM WITH ME STANDING BESIDE ME SO I AM A LITTLE CHOKED UP
09:18:06AM KNOWING THAT YOU ARE LEAVING US.
09:18:07AM BUT I KNOW YOU ARE ACROSS THE WAY THOUGH.
09:18:10AM IN RECOGNITION OF YOUR PROMOTION AND APPRECIATION OF YOUR
09:18:14AM HARD WORK AND DEDICATED SERVICE TO BOTH THE CITY AND TAMPA
09:18:20AM CITY COUNCIL.
09:18:21AM MICHELLE HAS BEEN A GREAT TEAM PLAYER.
09:18:24AM DURING THE PANDEMIC ONE OF THE KEY PLAYERS TO HELP OUR
09:18:27AM OFFICE TRANSITION SWITCH WALLY.
09:18:29AM MICHELLE IS AN AWESOME PERSONALITY.
09:18:31AM YES, SHE DOES.
09:18:32AM ALWAYS EAGER TO HELP AND GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MAKE SURE
09:18:35AM THAT TASKS ARE COMPLETED IN A TIMELY MATTER.
09:18:38AM ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP.
09:18:39AM MICHEL, WE APPLAUD AND COMMEND YOU FOR THE EXCELLENT WORK
09:18:43AM THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:18:46AM AND BEST WISHES IN YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS ON THE FIRST DAY OF
09:18:51AM SEPTEMBER 2022, PRESENT MICHEL MATOS THIS ACCOMMODATION
09:18:58AM HONORING YOUR PROMOTION AND WISH YOU CONTINUED SUCCESS IN
09:19:01AM FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
09:19:02AM I WILL DO ONE THING.
09:19:03AM MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I MAKE A MOTION.
09:19:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURE.
09:19:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN I HAVE A SECOND.
09:19:10AM I AM MAKING A MOTION.
09:19:11AM A CITY OF TAMPA COMMENDATION.
09:19:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR -- MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:19:16AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:19:18AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:19:19AM ANY OPPOSED.
09:19:20AM I DON'T THINK SO.
09:19:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS SHIRLEY -- LET THE BOSS LADY COME AND
09:19:27AM SPEAK AND THEN LET YOU SPEAK.
09:19:28AM MISS SHIRLEY.
09:19:29AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:19:30AM WE WILL MISS MICHEL.
09:19:32AM SHE HAS BEEN WONDERFUL.
09:19:34AM AND I WISH HER ALL THE BEST ON HER TRAVELS UPWARD.
09:19:39AM YOU WILL DO WELL.
09:19:41AM >> THANK YOU.
09:19:44AM >> AND WE ARE GOING TO MISS HER A LOT.
09:19:46AM [APPLAUSE]
09:19:54AM >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:19:56AM THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING PATIENT WITH ME DURING MY LEARNING
09:20:00AM PHASE.
09:20:00AM THE CITY CLERK, THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:20:03AM ALSO, I WILL MISS THE NIGHT MEETINGS.
09:20:06AM ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL MISS IS DOING ROLL CALL, MENTIONING
09:20:11AM MIRANDA AND MANISCALCO.
09:20:12AM [LAUGHTER]
09:20:15AM AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
09:20:16AM BUT, YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:20:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:20:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:20:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DID WORK WITH
09:20:26AM US.
09:20:27AM YOU WERE A REAL SUPERSTAR AND FANTASTIC WORKING WITH YOU.
09:20:31AM I CAN SEE WHY PEOPLE WANT TO HIRE YOU AWAY.
09:20:35AM ISSUE THE BEST.
09:20:36AM >> I OWE IT TO SULING LUCAS.
09:20:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:20:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR BRING THIS
09:20:44AM FORWARD.
09:20:44AM THAT WAS VERY THOUGHTFUL.
09:20:46AM YOU AND I GET ALONG AND JOKE AND SOMETIMES WE EVEN GOSSIP,
09:20:50AM BUT I ALWAYS ENJOYED MY TIME WITH YOU.
09:20:52AM YOU ARE A VERY NICE PERSON.
09:20:53AM >> THANK YOU.
09:20:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW YOU WILL DO A GREAT JOB WITH THE POLICE
09:20:56AM DEPARTMENT.
09:20:56AM AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS IN COMMON, INCLUDING OUR KIDS
09:21:00AM GO TO THE SAME HIGH SCHOOL.
09:21:01AM THERE YOU GO.
09:21:02AM >> THANK YOU.
09:21:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:21:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:21:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT WITH US.
09:21:08AM I KNOW IT IS NOT EASY.
09:21:10AM YOU ARE HERE DAY IN AND DAY OUT THROUGH COVID.
09:21:13AM WHEN WE WERE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
09:21:15AM WHEN WE WERE HERE.
09:21:16AM WHEN WE WERE VIRTUAL.
09:21:18AM YOU KNOW, YOU AND THE ENTIRE CLERK'S OFFICE, WE CAN'T DO IT
09:21:23AM WITHOUT YOU -- WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOU.
09:21:25AM AND WE SINCERELY WILL MISS YOU.
09:21:28AM YOU ARE WONDERFUL.
09:21:29AM AND I WISH YOU NOTHING BUT SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE AND WE ARE
09:21:34AM TRULY GRATEFUL THAT YOU ARE -- THAT YOU HAVE BEEN HERE WITH
09:21:37AM US.
09:21:38AM AND WE WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK
09:21:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:21:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CONGRATULATIONS.
09:21:44AM >> THANK YOU.
09:21:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DID FOR ME
09:21:47AM HELPING ME SETTLE IN.
09:21:49AM I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
09:21:51AM YOU TOOK TIME.
09:21:53AM AND, AGAIN, I JUST CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I APPRECIATED YOU
09:21:57AM TELLING ME THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN SO I FINALLY
09:22:00AM GET IT.
09:22:01AM THANK YOU.
09:22:01AM >> THANK YOU.
09:22:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: INCREDIBLY PROUD OF YOU FOR SEARCHING FOR NEW
09:22:07AM OPPORTUNITIES AND NEW CHALLENGES.
09:22:08AM IT DOES NOT SURPRISE ME.
09:22:10AM THAT IS ABSOLUTELY YOUR PERSONALITY AND I KNOW YOU WILL GO
09:22:13AM VERY FAR.
09:22:14AM AND I AM VERY EXCITED FOR YOU.
09:22:16AM WE WILL MISS YOU, BUT I AM PROUD OF YOU FOR JUST GOING AND
09:22:21AM TRYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
09:22:22AM I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.
09:22:23AM AND I WISH YOU BEST IN ALL YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS AND I AM
09:22:29AM SURE WE WILL STILL SEE YOU.
09:22:30AM YOU ARE JUST NEXT DOOR.
09:22:32AM >> ONE STEP AWAY.
09:22:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:22:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MICHEL, AN OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW YOU AND
09:22:38AM WORK WITH YOU FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME.
09:22:40AM I REMEMBER WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED AND YOU WERE A LITTLE
09:22:44AM NERVOUS.
09:22:44AM WHEN I FIRST STARTED I WAS IN A BABY CRIB.
09:22:47AM SO I CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE.
09:22:49AM YOU HAVE A MANNERISM OF WHICH YOU CAN HANDLE THINGS WITHOUT
09:22:54AM BEING UPSET.
09:22:54AM THAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU DO WHEN YOU HANDLE PEOPLE -- IN
09:23:00AM THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
09:23:01AM YOU WORK WITH A VERY GREAT CITY CLERK AND I AM SURE SHE
09:23:04AM TAUGHT YOU A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE TAUGHT YOU.
09:23:06AM IT TAKES PATIENCE AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MISTAKE AND
09:23:10AM AN ERROR.
09:23:10AM I WILL LET YOU FIGURE THAT ONE OUT.
09:23:12AM THAT IS WHAT MY OLD BASEBALL COACH TOLD ME.
09:23:15AM AND WHAT IT IS ABOUT, YOU WORKED HERE AND YOU GOT -- THE
09:23:20AM DIFFERENCE IS EVERYTHING COMING TOGETHER.
09:23:22AM IT IS VERY DIFFICULT WORK IN YOUR POSITION.
09:23:26AM SEVEN MEMBERS, THE PUBLIC SPEAKING AND EVERYTHING GOING ON
09:23:29AM AT ONCE AND YOUR RECORDS MUST BE ACCURATE.
09:23:31AM WHERE YOU ARE GOING NOW THEY HAVE TO BE SUPER ACCURATE
09:23:34AM BECAUSE THEY WILL END UP IN COURT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
09:23:36AM YOU ARE GOING FROM A LITTLE FIRE TO A FOREST FIRE.
09:23:39AM BUT -- I DON'T MEAN THAT IN ANY DISRESPECTFUL WAY, BECAUSE
09:23:44AM THERE IS MUCH, MORE INTENSE AND MUCH, MORE PROFESSIONAL THAT
09:23:49AM YOU HAVE TO BE.
09:23:50AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHO YOU ARE.
09:23:51AM GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
09:23:53AM >> SANTO DOMINGO.
09:24:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MADAM CLERK.
09:24:08AM >> I WILL NOT -- DO NOT PUT ME ON TV.
09:24:10AM I KNOW YOU ALWAYS CREDIT ME, BUT I WILL HAVE TO SAY THE
09:24:14AM CREDIT GOES TO YOU.
09:24:16AM YOU HAD THE DETERMINATION TO WORK HARD.
09:24:19AM YOU HAD THE DETERMINATION TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT IT
09:24:22AM RIGHT.
09:24:22AM YOU TOOK -- TOOK CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM AND YOU MADE SURE
09:24:26AM YOU IMPROVED YOURSELF DAY AFTER DAY.
09:24:28AM SO THANK YOU FOR BEING A TEAM PLAYER AND ALWAYS HAVING MY
09:24:31AM BACK.
09:24:32AM >> THANK YOU.
09:24:33AM [APPLAUSE]
09:24:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS MICHEL, IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO
09:24:44AM WORK WITH YOU.
09:24:44AM I ALWAYS ENJOYED YOUR SMILING FACE WHEN YOU CAME IN.
09:24:48AM YOU ALWAYS GAVE ME A HEY!
09:24:53AM [LAUGHTER]
09:24:53AM YOU HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND.
09:24:55AM CONGRATULATIONS FOR TAKING THAT NEXT STEP.
09:24:58AM PLEASE REMEMBER, YOU GOT OTHERS FOLLOWING YOU.
09:25:01AM HELP THEM GO UP THAT LADDER TOO.
09:25:04AM MICHEL, THANK YOU.
09:25:06AM >> THANK YOU.
09:25:07AM [APPLAUSE]
09:25:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW EVERYBODY IS HERE.
09:25:41AM NOW EVERYBODY IS HERE.
09:25:44AM ALL RIGHT, CHIEF.
09:25:51AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST.
09:25:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SOMEBODY THROWS YOU OFF -- OKAY, NOW AT THIS
09:25:56AM TIME WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:25:58AM THOSE WISHING TO GIVE ANY TYPE OF PUBLIC COMMENT THIS
09:26:01AM MORNING, WILL YOU PLEASE FORM A LINE TO MY LEFT, TO YOUR
09:26:06AM RIGHT.
09:26:07AM GOOD MORNING.
09:26:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:26:10AM ONCE AGAIN, GIVING HONOR TO THE MOST HIGH AND ALL OF YOU IN
09:26:17AM YOUR PROSPECTIVE PLACES.
09:26:19AM PASTOR JOHNSON TUCKER WITH THE JUNETEENTH COALITION.
09:26:22AM AUGUST 2022 DURING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING I WAS DELIGHTED
09:26:26AM TO HEAR THE WORDS THAT JUNETEENTH WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE
09:26:29AM CITY'S BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.
09:26:30AM I STAND BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TODAY WITH GRATITUDE FOR
09:26:33AM YOUR VOTE ON JUNETEENTH BEING RECOGNIZED IN THE CITY OF
09:26:37AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS A HOLIDAY OF CELEBRATION.
09:26:39AM I WANTED TO RETURN TO BRING CLARITY TO MY POSITION IN
09:26:45AM BRINGING JUNETEENTH TO THE FOREFRONT OF SIGNIFICANCE SO THAT
09:26:48AM ALL IS UNDERSTOOD, BECAUSE TAKING ON THESE MISSIONS CAN
09:26:52AM CAUSE A PERSON'S PERSPECTIVE TO BE SKEWED.
09:26:56AM WITH EVERYTHING DECISION WE MAKE IN LIFE, THERE IS ALWAYS A
09:27:00AM CONNECTION TO OUR STORY AND/OR OUR EXPERIENCES.
09:27:03AM THE IMPORTANT OF GAINING PERSPECTIVE FOR VOICING A NEED OF
09:27:06AM THE HOLIDAY'S PERSPECTIVE TO HELP US UNDERSTAND SITUATIONS
09:27:09AM FROM OTHER POSITIONS.
09:27:10AM THIS GIVES US A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND GREATER EMPATHY.
09:27:15AM HELPS TO REDUCE BIASES, JUDGMENT AND CONFLICT.
09:27:19AM HOWEVER, WHEN THE PERSPECTIVE IS CONNECTED TO A STORY THAT
09:27:23AM DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU, THEN THE PERSPECTIVE CAN BECOME A
09:27:27AM TRUTH, A SENT THE NECESSARY INFORMATION TO GIVE TRANSPARENCY
09:27:32AM OF ANY SOLUTION AGREEABLE TO THE ACTUAL CHARACTERS WHO LIVED
09:27:37AM THE STORY.
09:27:37AM FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE CELEBRATED HOLIDAY OF FREEDOM IS
09:27:42AM GRANTED, SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES WILL HAVE TO WORK.
09:27:44AM THAT IS COSTLY.
09:27:45AM NOW I HAVE A GREATER EMPATHY OF YOUR PERSPECTIVE; HOWEVER,
09:27:49AM YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS NOT CONNECTED TO MY STORY.
09:27:52AM SO WHILE THIS IS TRUE, THAT -- THERE ARE THOSE WHO WILL
09:27:56AM STILL HAVE TO WORK.
09:27:56AM OKAY.
09:27:58AM THOSE EMPLOYEES WILL STILL GET PAID.
09:28:00AM THEY ARE STILL COMPENSATED.
09:28:02AM THEN FOR THE ABUSE CHARACTERS IN THE STORY, A PERSPECTIVE
09:28:07AM MAY MANIFEST AS AN INSULT THAT WE ALL PAY TAXES.
09:28:11AM WE ARE ASKED THE QUESTION.
09:28:12AM DID NOT THE ENSLAVED PAID THE TAX WITH THEIR LIVES,
09:28:18AM CHILDREN, GRANDPARENTS.
09:28:20AM PERSPECTIVES CONNECT TO PERCEPTIONS.
09:28:24AM WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN.
09:28:25AM EVERYONE'S PERCEPTION IS THEIR REALITY.
09:28:27AM AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA BAY JUNETEENTH COALITION, A
09:28:31AM SPECIAL THANKS TO YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES, FOR BEING A MAJOR
09:28:36AM VOICE OF ATTENTION IN THIS MATTER.
09:28:37AM COUNCILMAN JOE CITRO, A SPECIAL THANKS TO YOU BECAUSE YOU
09:28:43AM ALWAYS SUPPORTED US THE MISS JUNETEENTH PAGEANT OF WHICH YOU
09:28:47AM NEVER MISSED ONE.
09:28:48AM WE THANK YOU.
09:28:49AM WE THANK THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:28:50AM WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR VOTE.
09:28:52AM AND WE ARE ALSO WITHOUT -- I DON'T WANT TO BE REMISS WITHOUT
09:28:57AM SAYING THANK YOU TO MAYOR JANE CASTOR AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:29:02AM WE ARE GRATEFUL.
09:29:03AM THANK YOU.
09:29:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:29:05AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:29:18AM ONE THING I WANT TO SAY UHURU.
09:29:24AM IT MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI AND WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD
09:29:29AM ALWAYS BE THINKING OF OUR FREEDOM, THE LAST 362 YEARS IF YOU
09:29:34AM WANT TO USE RECOGNIZABLE TIME PERIOD, WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE
09:29:38AM INTERNATIONALLY HAVEN'T BEEN FREE.
09:29:40AM FAR FROM FREEDOM.
09:29:41AM NO SELF-DETERMINATION.
09:29:42AM WE HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED.
09:29:43AM ALL OVER THE WORLD -- WE HAVE BEEN SHIPPED ALL OVER THE
09:29:46AM WORLD TO WORK AS SLAVES.
09:29:47AM AND WE CONTINUE TO BE IN THAT POSITION RIGHT NOW TODAY.
09:29:51AM SO WHEN YOU TALK OF RACIAL PROFILING, WHEN YOU SEE AN
09:29:54AM AFRICAN PERSON BEING ABUSED.
09:29:56AM WHEN THE POLICE CAN RUN UP ON YOU AND DO ANYTHING, BIKING
09:30:00AM WHILE BLACK, DRIVING WHILE BLACK, WALKING WHILE BLACK.
09:30:04AM GETTING OFFENDED WHEN COMMON WHITE CITIZENS CAN ACCOST YOU
09:30:07AM IN A CERTAIN WAY THAT MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE, HEY, AM I A HUMAN
09:30:11AM BEING?
09:30:11AM DO I HAVE CIVIL RIGHTS?
09:30:12AM HUMAN RIGHTS?
09:30:13AM DO I HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS WHEN WHITE PEOPLE SEE YOU
09:30:16AM WITH A SIGN OR SEE YOU WITH A SHIRT ON AND THEY TRY TO ACT
09:30:20AM AS IF THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACT.
09:30:22AM WELL, THE RACIAL PROFILING COMES ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S A LEVEL
09:30:28AM OF EXPECTATION THAT THEY HAVE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE THAT WE ARE
09:30:31AM NOBODY.
09:30:31AM WE ARE NOTHING.
09:30:32AM WE ARE SCUM.
09:30:32AM WE ARE LESS THAN HUMAN BEINGS.
09:30:34AM WE ARE 3/5 OF A HUMAN BEING.
09:30:36AM HOWSOEVER THEY WROTE IT DOWN, HOWSOEVER THEY
09:30:41AM INTELLECTUALIZED IT AND INTELLECTUALS PUT IT IN THEIR BRAINS
09:30:46AM AND FEED IT DOWN TO THE PEOPLE.
09:30:48AM DISCONNECT US FROM BEING A FREE AND DETERMINANT PEOPLE.
09:30:51AM DISCONNECT US FROM REALITY AND HAVE US THINKING ALL KIND OF
09:30:56AM STUPIDNESS.
09:30:56AM WHO IS THE BEST DANCER.
09:30:58AM WHO IS THE BEST BASKETBALL PLAYER.
09:30:59AM AS THE WORLD PASSES BY.
09:31:01AM WHITE PEOPLE IN THE UKRAINE LOOKING AT NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS
09:31:04AM AND BUILDING NUCLEAR ENERGY AND GOING TO THE MOON AND
09:31:07AM PLANNING TO GO TO MARS ON SATURDAY, BLACK PEOPLE ARE
09:31:10AM WONDERING AROUND HERE HOW TO SURVIVE.
09:31:12AM AND SO IT IS TIME UNTIL YOU SEE -- WHEN YOU SEE THE ABSENCE
09:31:17AM OF MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. AND MALCOLM X AND EVERS AND
09:31:23AM GARVEY AND QUEEN MOTHER MOORE AND FANNY LOU HAMER AND
09:31:32AM PEOPLE WHO STOOD UP FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:31:35AM THE BLACK PANTHER, NEWTON, THE AFRICAN PEOPLE SOCIALIST
09:31:40AM PARTY.
09:31:40AM WHEN NONE OF THAT, PLAQUE PEOPLE HAVE NO REPRESENTATION.
09:31:43AM YOU SEE BLACK PEOPLE BEGGING EVERYWHERE YOU GO.
09:31:46AM WHEREVER YOU GO YOU SEE BLACK PEOPLE BEGGING AND IN THIS
09:31:52AM CITY THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE.
09:31:52AM WE NEED SOMEONE FOR OUR DISTRICT, A REPRESENTATIVE THAT WILL
09:31:55AM REPRESENT AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:31:57AM WHO WILL TALK ABOUT REPARATION.
09:32:00AM WHO WILL TALK OF BLACK POWER.
09:32:01AM WHO WILL TALK OF CAPITALISM AND WHAT CAPITALISM HAS DONE FOR
09:32:07AM AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:32:08AM WE DON'T NEED TO KEEP BEGGING.
09:32:10AM DON'T NEED TO SEE A WITH A BILLION BUDGET -- TRILLION DOLLAR
09:32:15AM BUDGET -- BILLION BUDGET WHERE WE ARE 26% OF THE POPULATION
09:32:19AM AND WE GET NONE OF IT.
09:32:20AM THAT HAS TO CHANGE.
09:32:21AM THANK YOU.
09:32:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. DANIELS.
09:32:24AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:32:30AM AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU TO DO HELP MAKE TAMPA A FANTASTIC
09:32:33AM CITY.
09:32:33AM I AM CHARLENE HARTFORD, PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH SEMINOLE
09:32:37AM HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION, WHICH BORDER FROM DR. MARTIN
09:32:42AM LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD TO HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, THE WEST
09:32:45AM SO SIDE OF FLORIDA RIVER AND THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
09:32:49AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS FLOODING RELIEF PROJECT BEGAN IN OUR
09:32:54AM NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER IN THE 300 BLOCK OF
09:32:56AM WEST CREST AVENUE.
09:32:57AM SINCE IT BEGAN, NOT ONE PORTION OF ENTIRE PROJECT HAS BEEN
09:33:00AM COMPLETED.
09:33:01AM NOT ONE CONSTRUCTION DEADLINE HAS BEEN ACHIEVED WITHOUT
09:33:04AM DELAYS.
09:33:04AM AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE 300 BLOCK OF WEST CREST AVENUE HAVE
09:33:08AM ENDURED THE UNENDURABLE.
09:33:11AM THE MEANS WISCONSIN THE ORIGINAL ROADWORK DIGGING UP THE
09:33:15AM ORIGINAL STREETS INTO THE NEIGHBORS' RIGHT-OF-WAYS, PLACING
09:33:19AM THE YOUR MAINS, SANITARY SEWERS, CAUSED MULTIPLE HOMES TO
09:33:24AM SUFFER VARIOUS CONSTRUCTION -- EXCUSE ME, STRUCTURAL DAMAGE.
09:33:28AM INEXPLICABLY -- THE 300 BLOCK OF WEST CREST AVENUE IN SIX
09:33:40AM OCCASIONS FLOODED LIKE A RIVER THAT CAUSED ONE VEHICLE TO B
09:33:43AM COMPLETELY SUBMERGED UP TO ITS HOOD.
09:33:45AM ANOTHER WHERE A CITY WORKER TOLD THE GENTLEMAN TO BACK OUT
09:33:49AM OF HIS DRIVEWAY.
09:33:50AM THERE WAS AN UNFORESEEN WEAKEN IN ROAD AND HE WAS BURIED UP
09:33:57AM INTO THE AXLE.
09:33:58AM WE HAVE A SWEET NEIGHBOR ON THE SAME STREET WITH MULTIPLE
09:34:00AM SCLEROSIS.
09:34:01AM SINCE THIS PROJECT BEGAN, SHE HAS HAD HER RIGHTS UNDER THE
09:34:07AM AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACTED REPEATEDLY IGNORED AND
09:34:10AM VIOLATED.
09:34:11AM HER RIGHT TO INDEPENDENT MOVEMENT VIA HER SCOOTER HAS BEEN
09:34:15AM VIOLATED BECAUSE SHE CAN'T ALMOST EVERY DAY GET OUT OF HER
09:34:18AM DRIVEWAY SINCE NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
09:34:20AM WORST OF ALL, SIGNIFICANT CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE
09:34:23AM ORIGINAL PROJECT DESIGN THAT IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTED --
09:34:28AM UNACCEPTABLE.
09:34:29AM WE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF OUR STREET ALSO BEING USED AS THE
09:34:32AM WORKE' PERSONAL TRASH CAN.
09:34:34AM IGNATIUS LINEAR PARK IS A BEAUTIFUL GREEN SPACE NARROW
09:34:39AM ALONG THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER FROM THE HILLSBOROUGH BRIDGE --
09:34:44AM HILLSBOROUGH BRIDGE TO -- ALL THE WAY DOWN TO -- SORRY --
09:34:48AM SOUTH STREET.
09:34:49AM SEVERAL BLOCKS.
09:34:50AM NEAR THE MIDDLE OF THIS BEAUTIFUL PARK, THE CITY APPROVED A
09:34:55AM LARGE CONCRETE STORM SEWER TRASH COLLECTION OUTFALL TO BE
09:35:00AM INSTALLED.
09:35:01AM THIS IS THE ORIGINAL RENDERING OF THAT DESIGN.
09:35:04AM IT IS APPROXIMATELY 20 X 20 FOOT.
09:35:12AM THE RENDERING SHOWS IT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED FLUSH TO THE
09:35:16AM GROUND AND SURROUNDED BY GRASS, BUT SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY
09:35:19AM UNILATERALLY APPROVED A CHANGE NOW THAT MONSTROSITY PROCEEDS
09:35:25AM UPWARDS OVER TWO FEET ALONG THIS NARROW STRETCH OF LAND AND
09:35:28AM WILL HOST CONCRETE PAVERS FROM RIVER BOULEVARD TO THE
09:35:31AM STRUCTURE.
09:35:31AM THE PROJECT TEAM SUGGESTED IT WOULD BE A GREAT ART
09:35:34AM INSTALLATION.
09:35:35AM THIS IS DURING CONSTRUCTION.
09:35:36AM THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
09:35:38AM I AM SORRY -- I THOUGHT HE SAID I WAS DONE.
09:35:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 30 SECONDS MORE.
09:35:47AM >>THE PROJECT TEAM SUGGESTED IT WOULD BE A GREAT ART
09:35:50AM INSTALLATION.
09:35:51AM NO AMOUNT OF ART IS GOING TO LESSEN THE IMPACT OF THIS
09:35:54AM EYESORE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PARK.
09:35:56AM FINALLY THE WIDTH OF CREST AVENUE DOES NOT MEET THE CITY OF
09:36:00AM TAMPA MINIMUMS FOR DRIVABLE LANES.
09:36:02AM EACH LANE SHOULD BE NINE FEET.
09:36:05AM AND THEY ARE ASKING OUR COMMUNITY TO DRIVE UPON THE ACTUAL
09:36:10AM CURBING BY IS NOT ACCORDING TO TRAFFIC ENGINEERS THE WAY YOU
09:36:15AM WANT PEOPLE TO DRIVE ON THE ROADS.
09:36:16AM THE WIDTH SHOULD ONLY BE MEASURED ON THE ASPHALT.
09:36:21AM A FOOT SHORT ON THIS STREET CONTRARY TO CITY AND STREET
09:36:25AM STANDARDS.
09:36:25AM THE WHOLE OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEED TO SEE SOMETHING IF NOT
09:36:29AM ANYTHING COMPLETED.
09:36:30AM THE 300 BLOCK OF WEST CREST SHORTLY FOLLOWED BY THE 200
09:36:33AM BLOCK AND SEE THAT THIS CONSTRUCTION MEETS CITY STANDARDS
09:36:36AM AND FULFILLS THE PROMISE TO RETAIN OUR GREEN SPACE
09:36:42AM IN IGNATIUS LINEAR PARK.
09:36:43AM THANK YOU.
09:36:44AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:36:45AM I SEE MISS DUNCAN.
09:36:50AM I AM SURE SHE IS TAKING NOTES AND GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT
09:36:54AM COMPANY.
09:36:54AM I KNOW WE HAD COMPANIES THAT FAIL BY THE WAYSIDE, SO IF YOU
09:36:58AM WILL GIVE AN UPDATE.
09:36:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:37:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE WILL BE TALKING
09:37:03AM ABOUT THIS ON ITEM NUMBER 9.
09:37:05AM WE ALREADY HAVE IT COMING UP TODAY.
09:37:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ARE NOT AS A TEAM?
09:37:14AM YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK SEPARATELY.
09:37:16AM MR. KEYPORTS.
09:37:17AM >> TIM KEYPORTS, PRESIDENT OF THE OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
09:37:21AM ASSOCIATION.
09:37:22AM TO FOLLOW UP WHAT CHARLENE JUST SHARED WITH YOU, I WOULD
09:37:26AM LIKE TO ADD ADDITIONAL COLOR TO THE COMMENTARY.
09:37:29AM NUMBER ONE, PUTTING HOMEOWNERS AT RISK.
09:37:32AM NO WATER, NO NOTICES, BROWN WATER.
09:37:35AM IF WE CAN HAVE THE SLIDE PRESENTED.
09:37:37AM THIS IS WHAT GREETS SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS OCCASIONALLY
09:37:40AM WITHOUT ANY KIND OF A DOOR HANGER AND THAT IS WHAT THEY WAKE
09:37:43AM UP TO IN THE MORNING.
09:37:44AM THAT IS WHEN THE WATER IS WORKING.
09:37:46AM FAILING TO PROVIDE THE DOOR HANGERS FOR ACCESS TO THE
09:37:49AM RESIDENCES ARE IMPEDED.
09:37:51AM AS CHARLENE CHAIRED, WE HAVE RESIDENTS WHO ARE
09:37:55AM WHEELCHAIR-BOUND AND THEY WILL COME UP IN THE MORNING AND
09:37:57AM CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT BLOCKING THEIR DRIVEWAYS.
09:37:59AM WE HAVE SIX DRIVEWAYS FOR MORE THAN A WEEK, THE RESIDENTS
09:38:05AM WEREN'T GIVEN ANY NOTICE AND HAD THEIR CARS STUCK IN THE
09:38:08AM DRIVEWAYS AFTER THE STREET WAS DRUG UP.
09:38:10AM FAILURE TO PROVIDE ANY KIND OF A SMOOTH WALKING PATH FOR
09:38:13AM RESIDENTS, IT IS UNDERSTANDABLE, IT IS A WORK ZONE, BUT NINE
09:38:17AM MONTHS PLUS.
09:38:18AM THE RESIDENTS ARE ABSOLUTELY FED UP WITH THIS POINT.
09:38:20AM FLOODING OF STREETS THAT NEVER FLOODED PRIOR.
09:38:23AM WE CHECKED, WE ASKED SPECIFICALLY DID THE STORMWATER SYSTEM
09:38:29AM GET SHUT DOWN.
09:38:30AM THE ANSWER WAS YES.
09:38:31AM AND THEN THE ANSWER WAS NO.
09:38:32AM IF YOU LOOK SPECIFICALLY RIGHT HERE THAT IS ONE OF THOSE
09:38:35AM FILTRATION DEVICES.
09:38:36AM THE PROBLEM IS AS CHARLENE POINTED OUTS, WE GET THE HEAVY
09:38:41AM RAINS DURING SUMMERTIME, ALL OF THE SILT IMMEDIATELY CLOGS
09:38:44AM THOSE AND YOU HAVE MASSIVE FLOODING AND EROSION OF
09:38:49AM RESIDENTS' YARDS.
09:38:49AM NUMBER TWO, OSHA VIOLATIONS.
09:38:51AM THESE WERE REPORTED BY A RESIDENT WHO WAS AN ENGINEER.
09:38:54AM NO ON-SITE NELSON EMPLOYED SAFETY SUPERVISION.
09:38:59AM CONTINUOUS ON THE JOB EMPLOYEES.
09:39:01AM FLAGGERS.
09:39:02AM I STOPPED AND ASKED THE FLAGGERS.
09:39:04AM THEY SAY HEY, IT IS MY FIRST DAY.
09:39:06AM I SAY YOU SHOULD TALK IN YOUR WALKIE-TALKIE AND TALK TO THE
09:39:11AM GUY DOWN THERE AS THE FRONT -- A RESIDENT SHOULD NOT BE
09:39:14AM TRAINING A NELSON EMPLOYEE.
09:39:16AM EMPLOYEES HANGING OFF OF EQUIPMENT FOR FUN.
09:39:18AM EMPLOYEES NOT WEARING BOOTS ON THE JOB SITES CARRYING THEIR
09:39:22AM BOOTS AND WALKING AROUND IN THEIR SOCKS.
09:39:24AM RESOLUTION.
09:39:25AM THE CITY CONTRACT ADMINISTRATOR MEET WITH NELSON IN AN ALL
09:39:30AM HANDS NELSON EMPLOYEE MEETING TO ADDRESS THESE SAFETY
09:39:34AM ISSUES.
09:39:35AM INCREASED COMMUNICATION WITH RESIDENTS.
09:39:37AM THIS RESIDENT WAS TOLD THEIR DRIVEWAY WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE.
09:39:41AM LATER THEY WERE TOLD -- AN EXAMPLE OF GOOD COMMUNICATION.
09:39:44AM THEY DID RECEIVE THIS MESSAGE FROM THE CITY AND THE PROJECT
09:39:47AM TEAM SAYING SORRY, YOU ARE NOT TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS YOUR
09:39:51AM DRIVEWAY.
09:39:51AM WE ASK FOR A WEEKLY NEWSLETTER OF PROGRESS.
09:39:55AM THAT IDEA WAS REJECTED.
09:39:56AM THEY SAID WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR A NEWSLEATHER.
09:39:59AM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION ISSUES.
09:40:01AM ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS.
09:40:02AM THESE GIGANTIC CULVERTS SIX TO EIGHT FEET TALL ARE
09:40:08AM PREPOSITIONED THROUGHOUT THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
09:40:10AM CENTRAL AVENUE.
09:40:12AM THAT BLOCK HAVE BEEN SITTING THERE FOR OVER NINE MONTHS.
09:40:15AM YOU SEE OF THEM THAT SAY CRACK, DAMAGE -- MAY I ASK FOR AN
09:40:21AM ADDITIONAL 30 SECONDS.
09:40:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 30 SECONDS.
09:40:24AM NEEDS TO GO BACK AND READ THEIR OWN CONTRACT.
09:40:26AM CONTRACT SECTION 4117-J SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT THE
09:40:32AM DELIVERY OF MATERIALS ON AN ON-NEEDED BASIS OF PREPOSITIONED
09:40:36AM INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:40:37AM CULVERTS LIKE THIS THAT ARE NOW SITTING ON CENTRAL AVENUE,
09:40:40AM WHICH IS NOT UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WAS SUPPOSED TO START A
09:40:44AM YEAR AGO AND DELAYED FOR A YEAR.
09:40:45AM WE NOW HAVE BARRELS LIKE THIS IN THE ROADWAY BECAUSE
09:40:49AM RESIDENTS CAN'T SEE AROUND THESE CULVERTS AS THEY ARE TRYING
09:40:52AM TO GET TO WORK OR COME HOME EVERY DAY.
09:40:54AM LACK OF RESPECT FOR RESIDENTS.
09:40:56AM BEING CATCALLED IN THEIR SPECIFIC HOMES IS RIDICULOUS.
09:41:00AM THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A TEXT THAT WAS SHARED WITH ME.
09:41:03AM EMPLOYEES -- THIS IS PROBABLY NUMBER TWO ISSUE -- EMPLOYEES
09:41:07AM LEAVING GARBAGE THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:41:08AM GO AHEAD.
09:41:09AM WE UNDERSTAND IT IS HOT.
09:41:10AM IT IS FLORIDA, BUT THIS IS A CONSTANT REFRAIN.
09:41:13AM WE ASKED NELSON AT THE PRECONSTRUCTION, DURING CONSTRUCTION,
09:41:18AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS BEEN AT MEETINGS AS HAS COUNCILMAN
09:41:22AM MANISCALCO, WHERE WE PLEADED WITH NELSON, CAN'T YOU GUYS
09:41:25AM HAVE SOME TRASH BAGS OUT THERE.
09:41:27AM NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:41:28AM HERE IS WHAT WE GOT RESULTS.
09:41:30AM NO WATER BOTTLES BUT WE WILL EAT ON-SITE AND LEAVE OUR TRASH
09:41:37AM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:41:38AM ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.
09:41:39AM WE ASKED MULTIPLE TIMES TO HAVE THE JOB SITE CLEANED UP
09:41:43AM DAILY.
09:41:43AM CONSTRUCTION ON I-275 AN EXAMPLE HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE.
09:41:48AM TEAMS THAT WALK THROUGH THE JOBSITE AND CLEAN UP THE TRASH
09:41:52AM BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT FDOT BLOWING THINGS AROUND WITH THE
09:41:57AM CARS.
09:41:57AM THIS IS NOT HAPPENING.
09:41:59AM THIS WAS LAY THERE FOR THREE DAYS.
09:42:02AM MAYBE THE GUY WAS DRYING HIS GLOVES OUT, BUT IF THAT WAS MY
09:42:07AM FRONT YARD.
09:42:07AM I HAVE TWO MORE PAGES OF TESTIMONY AND I DON'T THINK IT IS
09:42:11AM APPROPRIATE.
09:42:12AM I KNOW YOU HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA AS STAFF REPORT, A
09:42:16AM WRITTEN STAFF REPORT.
09:42:17AM I WOULD REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL DIG INTO THIS A LITTLE
09:42:19AM DEEPER, HAVE NELSON COME.
09:42:21AM HAVE MR. CALLOWAY THE CITY OF TAMPA CONTRACT ADMINISTRATOR
09:42:26AM WHO DID PROVIDE US A CONTRACT AFTER THE REQUEST WAS DENIED.
09:42:30AM WE WENT BACK AND GOT THE CONTRACT AND WE ARE GOING THROUGH
09:42:33AM IT.
09:42:33AM ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
09:42:38AM CITY KNOW THIS IS NORMAL PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
09:42:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIRMAN.
09:42:43AM AS THE GENTLEMAN HAS SAID, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND I HAVE
09:42:47AM BEEN OUT SO SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
09:42:50AM I GO TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ALMOST DAILY.
09:42:52AM NOW WITH FLORIDA AVENUE CLOSED, NEW COMPLAINTS ARE FROM
09:42:55AM BUSINESS OWNERS.
09:42:56AM TRUCKS JUST PARKED EVERYWHERE
09:42:58AM I GET IT.
09:42:59AM IT IS A CONSTRUCTION ZONE, BUT THIS IS AFFECTING BUSINESS.
09:43:02AM SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECTING THE RESIDENTS.
09:43:04AM EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID.
09:43:06AM THIS IS A NIGHTMARE SCENARIO.
09:43:07AM I ALREADY WORKED WITH THE RESIDENTS OFF WEST SHORE WHEN THE
09:43:10AM STREETS WERE TORN UP AND THEY HAD ISSUE WITH CUT-THRU
09:43:16AM TRAFFIC AND ALL THE CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS EVERYWHERE.
09:43:18AM BUT IT WASN'T AS BAD AS THIS.
09:43:20AM TRASH EVERYWHERE.
09:43:21AM BAD ATTITUDES FROM THE WORKERS.
09:43:29AM SO MANY COMPLAINTS SAYING PLEASE HELP US.
09:43:31AM I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT IS LIKE TO LIVE THERE.
09:43:33AM I GET IT, A PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT NINE MONTHS
09:43:39AM OF MISERY.
09:43:41AM CHILDREN LEAVING THERE.
09:43:42AM PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
09:43:44AM PEOPLE UNABLE TO GET AROUND.
09:43:47AM I UNDERSTAND A CONTRACTOR THAT WE HIRED BUT A REPRESENTATION
09:43:50AM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE THEY ARE OUT THERE DOING OUR
09:43:53AM WORK.
09:43:54AM AND YOU KNOW WE MET AND OTHER ISSUES WITH RIVER CREST AND I
09:44:00AM HAD OTHER MEETINGS AND TALKED TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND WHAT
09:44:03AM NOT.
09:44:11AM WE HAVE TO HELP THESE INDIVIDUALS.
09:44:12AM FLORIDA AVENUE, DIRECTLY AFFECTING PEOPLE'S POCKET BOOKS.
09:44:20AM >> MAY I MAKE ONE FINAL COMMENT.
09:44:22AM I WILL COMPLIMENT THE MAYOR.
09:44:25AM SHE WENT WAY OUT OF HER WAY AND WENT TO EVERY BUSINESS
09:44:28AM EFFECTED BY CLOSURE OF FLORIDA AVENUE WHICH IS A THREE-WEEK
09:44:32AM CLOSURE OF A MAJOR ROAD PARALLELING I-275.
09:44:35AM WENT INTO EVERY BUSINESS WITH THE BUSINESS OWNER,
09:44:40AM LAP SEGUNDA, SPOTTY COFFEE SHOP OR THE OTHER WONDERFUL
09:44:44AM BUSINESSES WE HAVE AND ENCOURAGED PEOPLE FROM TAMPA TO
09:44:47AM PLEASE GO AND SPEND THEIR DOLLAR.
09:44:49AM COMPLIMENTS FOR THE MAYOR AND HER STAFF FOR HAVING THE
09:44:53AM FORESIGHT TO DO THAT AND PUT IT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
09:44:55AM THANK YOU.
09:44:56AM >> ONE VERY LAST BRIEF COMMENT, SIR.
09:44:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO AHEAD.
09:45:00AM >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THE COMMUNITY HAS HAD THIS UPHEAVAL
09:45:04AM SINCE NOVEMBER OF 2021.
09:45:06AM WE ARE ONLY ASKING YOU -- WE NEED COMPLETION.
09:45:08AM NOTHING TO SHOW FOR ALL OF OUR PAIN.
09:45:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:45:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PICTURE IS WORTH 1,000 WORDS.
09:45:19AM WHAT YOU BROUGHT US HERE IS A LIBRARY.
09:45:21AM SO I -- I ADMIRE YOU COMING IN AND DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING,
09:45:25AM BOTH OF YOU.
09:45:26AM WE WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS.
09:45:28AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:45:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:45:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: I ALSO WANT TO SAY.
09:45:40AM MAYBE SOME OF IT FALLS UNDER PUBLIC WORKS AND JEAN MAY BE
09:45:45AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
09:45:46AM MR. KEYPORTS TALKED OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
09:45:53AM I HAVE BEEN WANTING A REVAMP OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION
09:45:56AM MOSTLY BECAUSE OF LACK OF COMPETITIVE BIDS AND WE NEED TO
09:45:59AM PROVIDE MORE OVERSIGHT OF HOW THESE FIRMS ARE CHOSEN AND ONE
09:46:04AM OF THE PROBLEMS IN SOUTH TAMPA IS WITH THE BONDING AND I
09:46:14AM SHOULDN'T ASK FOR THE CONTRACTS TO BE CHANGED OR ALTERED
09:46:16AM PAUSE WE HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR BECAUSE A CONTRACTOR DEFAULT.
09:46:19AM WE NEED MAJOR REVAMP OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, SINCE THE
09:46:26AM GENTLEMAN BROUGHT IT UP.
09:46:27AM I WANT TO REMENTION.
09:46:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WANT TO MAKE
09:46:34AM PUBLIC COMMENT?
09:46:36AM I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO ON LINE.
09:46:38AM MISS POYNOR, ARE YOU WITH US?
09:46:42AM >> YES, SIR, CAN YOU HEAR ME.
09:46:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, I CAN.
09:46:46AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:46:50AM THAT IS A HOT MESS.
09:46:52AM SHAME ON NELSON BUT AMAZED THAT FOLKS FROM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
09:46:57AM HAVE TAKE THIS SO LONG.
09:46:59AM NEWSWORTHY FAILURE OF THE SYSTEM BY THE VENDOR ON THIS
09:47:03AM PROJECT.
09:47:03AM CITY STAFF SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE THE FIRST
09:47:06AM COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
09:47:08AM IT IS A SAD, SAD DAY.
09:47:11AM AS T.H.A.N. PRESIDENT, I COMMUNICATION WITH A LOT OF
09:47:15AM NEIGHBORHOODS OF THEIR COMMUNITIES.
09:47:17AM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS ARE BECOMING MORE ACTIVE AS THE
09:47:20AM GROWTH IN OUR CITY HAS EXPLODED IN THE PAST THREE YEARS
09:47:23AM SINCE I FIRST CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
09:47:26AM T.H.A.N. HAS BEEN RAMPING UP TO EDUCATE OUR LEADERS ON HOW
09:47:30AM TO BEST DEAL WITH DEVELOPMENT.
09:47:32AM THE BEST LAND USE ATTORNEYS IN THIS TOWN ARE REACHING OUT TO
09:47:36AM THE NEIGHBORHOODS BEFORE THEY BRING ANY OF THEIR PROPOSALS
09:47:40AM BEFORE COUNCIL.
09:47:41AM ALTHOUGH THERE ARE A FEW WHO MIGHT DO WELL TO FOLLOW SUIT.
09:47:45AM I HONESTLY BELIEVE I HAVE A FIFTH-GRADE UNDERSTANDING OF
09:47:49AM LAND USE WITH THE ASPIRATION OF EVENTUALLY GETTING TO MIDDLE
09:47:52AM SCHOOL.
09:47:52AM I FIND THAT OTHERS NO -- KNOW LESS THAN I DO.
09:47:56AM I CAN'T ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT T.H.A.N. MEMBERS ASK.
09:48:00AM CITY STAFF DOES AN AMAZING JOB OF ACCOMMODATING OUR
09:48:04AM QUESTIONS.
09:48:04AM EVEN THOUGH WE -- AND WE EVEN HAVE A ZONING 101 COURSE BEING
09:48:10AM PLANNED FOR THE T.H.A.N. MEMBERS IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BUT WE
09:48:14AM DEFINITELY NEED AN OMBUDSMAN TO HELP US WITH THESE ISSUES.
09:48:19AM OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WE NEED THAT -- A PERSON WHO
09:48:24AM CAN BE THE POINT OF CONTACT WHO CAN HELP US WITH THIS.
09:48:28AM NOT JUST A NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER THAT IS GLAD-HANDING WITH US,
09:48:32AM BUT SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT LAND USE TO HELP US
09:48:35AM AND SUPPORT US IN OUR UNDERSTANDING SO WE CAN BRING
09:48:38AM COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE BEFORE COUNCIL WHEN IT IS
09:48:42AM NECESSARY.
09:48:42AM THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR PROPOSING THE ONE PAGER
09:48:47AM OF THE CHEAT SHEET OF BUDGET ITEMS.
09:48:50AM I LOVE SNAPSHOTS OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
09:48:53AM WE ALL READ THE BACK OF A BOOK BEFORE WE DECIDE IF WE WANT
09:48:57AM TO READ IT OR NOT AND THAT IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE WITH
09:48:59AM THESE BUDGET ITEMS.
09:49:00AM LAST BUT NOT LEAST, OUR COUNCIL NEEDS A SECONDARY ATTORNEY
09:49:04AM TO SUPPORT THEM AS WE HAVE SEEN FROM MR. SHELBY'S ACTIONS,
09:49:09AM THERE SHOULD BE SOMEONE WHO IS UP TO SPEED AND READY TO STEP
09:49:12AM IN AT ALL TIMES.
09:49:13AM MR. MASSEY HAS DONE A FABULOUS JOB, BUT HE HAS OTHER ROLES
09:49:17AM AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
09:49:17AM MICHEL, YOU WILL BE MISSED BY THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
09:49:20AM THANK YOU.
09:49:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:49:25AM NEXT WE HAVE MR. MORRISON.
09:49:27AM >> COUNCIL, GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS BOB MORRISON.
09:49:36AM I AM ACTUALLY HERE FOR ITEM -- AGENDA NUMBER 48, SO I WILL
09:49:40AM RESERVE ANY COMMENTS.
09:49:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. MORRISON.
09:49:46AM >> THAT ITEM IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND TO SET THE PUBLIC
09:49:49AM HEARING.
09:49:50AM IF MR. MORRISON HAS ANY COMMENTS, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME.
09:49:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MORRISON, NOW WILL BE YOUR TIME TO MAKE
09:49:56AM COMMENTS.
09:49:56AM >> I HAVE NO COMMENT.
09:49:57AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:49:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
09:50:01AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, PUBLIC, JOHN BENNETT
09:50:19AM OVER AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2 WITH SEVERAL SUBCOMPONENTS OF ITEM
09:50:23AM 2.
09:50:23AM MOST HAVE BEEN MEMORANDUM TO YOUR OFFICES BEFORE TODAY BUT
09:50:27AM ONE ADD-ON THAT CAME THROUGH.
09:50:29AM AND FOR SUPPORT COUNCILMAN GUDES REQUEST OVER PARKING RATE
09:50:35AM INCREASES, I HAVE MISS DUNCAN PLANNED ROGERO HERE AND
09:50:41AM THOUGHT WE WOULD HANDLE THAT IF THAT IS THE COUNCILMAN
09:50:47AM GUDES.
09:50:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GOT SEVERAL CALLS OF THE LIGHTING
09:50:50AM SITUATION.
09:50:51AM I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS AN INCREASE THAT ALREADY HAPPEN AND
09:50:54AM THERE WERE SOME ISSUES.
09:50:55AM I WOULD LIKE THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHAT IT IS.
09:50:58AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: GOOD MORNING, JEAN DUNCAN, INFRASTRUCTURE AND
09:51:01AM MOBILITY.
09:51:01AM YES WE HAD ANOTHER.
09:51:04AM A SECOND PARKING GARAGE INCREASE.
09:51:07AM BACK IN 2019, WE WORKED AT THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP
09:51:11AM TO DEVELOP A PARKING STRATEGY THAT WE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL
09:51:14AM THAT INCLUDED ONE COMPONENT WHICH WAS RATE INCREASES.
09:51:17AM THE RATE INCREASES ARE SERVING A NUMBER OF PURPOSES FROM THE
09:51:25AM STRATEGY PERSPECTIVE.
09:51:26AM WE ARE WORKING TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE WITH THE MARKET.
09:51:29AM WE ARE WORKING TO GET MORE TURNAROUND TIME ON ON-STREET
09:51:33AM PARKING AND LONGER-TERM IN OUR GARAGES.
09:51:38AM REVENUE ISSUES TO ADDRESS WITH THE PARKING DIVISION FUNDS
09:51:40AM AND WE ARE WORKING ON A SUSTAINABILITY OPPORTUNITIES TO
09:51:43AM INVEST IN OUR TECHNOLOGY FOR OUR GARAGES AND MAKE A MICRO
09:51:49AM MOBILITY AND OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE AS WE STRATEGIZE WITH
09:51:53AM THE GARAGE ASSET.
09:51:54AM THAT IS A LONG WAY OF SAYING WE HAD A STRATEGY THAT INCLUDED
09:51:59AM PARKING RATE INCREASES, SPECIFICALLY ON THE WHITING STREET
09:52:05AM GARAGE.
09:52:05AM RATE IS $77.15.
09:52:07AM IT IS GOING UP TO $92.40.
09:52:10AM THE SURROUNDING LOTS IN THAT AREA ARE AT $175 PER MONTH.
09:52:15AM SO, AGAIN, STILL A BARGAIN FOR THAT PARTICULAR GARAGE.
09:52:19AM WE HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE OTHER GARAGES.
09:52:22AM VERY COMPETITIVE DOLLARS AS WELL AS AS FAR AS THE FEES.
09:52:26AM WE ALSO DEVELOPED A MICROMOBILITY MASTER PLAN TO WORK TO
09:52:32AM ALIGN THE -- WHAT WE CALL FIRST MILE, LAST MILE OPTION SUCH
09:52:37AM AS BIKE SHARE AND SCOOTERS TO ALIGN THOSE WITH THE PARKING
09:52:41AM ASSETS AT THE DOWNTOWN AREAS.
09:52:43AM SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO SAVE DOLLARS ON YOUR
09:52:49AM PARKING ALLOWANCE PER MONTH, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO PARK IN THE
09:52:53AM OUTER RINGS OF THE DOWNTOWN AND TAKE ANOTHER OPTION INTO THE
09:52:59AM CORE SUCH AS A SCOOTER OR BIKE SHARE.
09:53:01AM AGAIN PART OF A BIGGER PLAN TO BRING SOME BALANCES TO
09:53:06AM SUSTAINABILITY OR PARKING.
09:53:07AM WE DO NOTIFY OUR CUSTOMERS 30 DAYS AHEAD OF TIME IF THERE IS
09:53:11AM AN INCREASE.
09:53:16AM WE DON'T EXPECT ANOTHER INCREASE FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR
09:53:19AM AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO INFORM THE COUNCIL AHEAD OF TIME ON
09:53:21AM THAT SO YOU ARE ANTICIPATING ANY CHANGES THAT MAY BE COMING
09:53:24AM WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
09:53:26AM WE ONLY GOT THREE CALLS FROM THIS PARTICULAR GARAGE FROM OUR
09:53:30AM CUSTOMERS SO IT WEREN'T -- IT WASN'T ON OUR RADAR AS A BIG
09:53:33AM CONCERN.
09:53:37AM ONE LAST ITEM UNDER THE UNION CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.
09:53:40AM WE ADDED IN A PARKING STIPEND FOR OUR UNION EMPLOYEES AND
09:53:46AM CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE MAYOR, WE HAVE
09:53:49AM EXPANDED THAT TO OUR OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE NOT IN
09:53:52AM THE UNION
09:53:53AM SO THEY HAVE NOW A STIPEND THAT THEY CAN SPEND TO HELP WITH
09:53:57AM ANY PARKING FEES THAT THEY HAVE IF THEY ARE WORK THE
09:54:01AM DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS THAT REQUIRE PAID PARKING.
09:54:03AM SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
09:54:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GLAD WE DID THAT BECAUSE AN ISSUE IN
09:54:10AM REFERENCE FOR EMPLOYEE WHO MAY BE AN AREA WHERE PARK AND
09:54:15AM DON'T PAY AND OTHERS HAVING TO PAY.
09:54:16AM I APPLAUD YOU WITH THAT EFFORT WITH THEIR PAY.
09:54:19AM AGAIN, IF THERE IS ANOTHER RATE INCREASE IN A YEAR, WE WANT
09:54:23AM TO BE NOTIFIED WAY BEFORE THE INCREASE COMES SO PEOPLE CAN
09:54:26AM LOOK AT THEIR BUDGETS AND GOVERN THEMSELVES ACCORDINGLY.
09:54:30AM IF YOU ARE SAYING THE AVERAGE LOTS ARE $175 AND WE ARE AT
09:54:36AM $92.40.
09:54:37AM A BIG DIFFERENCE.
09:54:38AM SO THINGS ARE GOING UP.
09:54:40AM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS SO THE PUBLIC KNOW
09:54:43AM WHAT HAPPENED AND WHY IT HAPPENED.
09:54:45AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, SIR.
09:54:46AM JUST ANOTHER LITTLE FACT.
09:54:47AM WE HAVE 522 FOLKS FOR THE WHITING STREET GARAGE WAITING TO
09:54:53AM GET IN THAT GARAGE TO PARK.
09:54:54AM AND MOST OF OUR GARAGES HAVE A WAITING LIST.
09:54:57AM THERE IS A SUPPLY AND DEMAND FACTOR IN THIS AS WELL.
09:55:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT IS THE STIPEND FOR THE EMPLOYEES.
09:55:04AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I BELIEVE IT IS $40 PER MONTHS.
09:55:07AM YES.
09:55:07AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GLAD WE DID SOMETHING VERSUS NOTHING.
09:55:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:55:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST NOW, YOU TALKED OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND
09:55:18AM AND LAST WEEK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK BROUGHT UP THE POSSIBILITY
09:55:21AM OF NEW GARAGES.
09:55:24AM WITH THE RATE INCREASES, ARE THE EXISTING GARAGES PROFITABLE
09:55:29AM OR STILL LOSING MONEY.
09:55:30AM DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH.
09:55:31AM AND ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO BUILD ANY NEW GARAGES.
09:55:34AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I DON'T HAVE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT WE ARE IN THE
09:55:37AM BLACK.
09:55:37AM WE HAVE -- DENNIS MAYBE ADD MORE DETAILS TO THAT.
09:55:43AM BUT WE ARE TAKING IN MORE THAN WE ARE PAYING OUT.
09:55:47AM THOSE DOLLARS WE ARE PRIORITIZING FOR DIFFERENT INVESTMENTS,
09:55:52AM LIKE I SAID, IN PARKING APPLICATIONS, TECHNOLOGY FOR THE
09:55:56AM GARAGES AND OTHER PURPOSES.
09:55:57AM ALSO MAINTENANCE AT THE EXISTING GARAGE STRUCTURES TO MAKE
09:56:02AM SURE THEY ARE SAFE AND STRUCTURALLY SOUND FOR THEIR PURPOSE.
09:56:08AM WE ARE UTILIZING THE MONEY WE ARE TAKING IN TO DEVELOP THE
09:56:12AM PHYSICAL SYSTEM AND THE OPERATIONS AS WELL.
09:56:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
09:56:17AM I THINK DENNIS WAS GOING TO ANSWER --
09:56:22AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:56:24AM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
09:56:28AM AND GOING BACK TO YOUR COMMENT.
09:56:31AM IN THE LAST DECADE, PARKING DEPARTMENT NEEDED A SUBSIDY FROM
09:56:36AM THE GENERAL FUND AND NOT WHERE AN ENTERPRISE FUND NEEDS TO
09:56:41AM BE.
09:56:41AM THESE PLANNED INCREASES ARE PART OF MAKING AND MAINTAINING
09:56:45AM THEIR RESILIENCY AS MISS DUNCAN SAID NOT ONLY FOR INCREASING
09:56:49AM COST BUT FOR PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS AS SHE SAID IN THE FUTURE.
09:56:53AM THEY ARE ON A VERY LEVEL FOOTING NOW.
09:56:55AM THESE PLANNED RATE INCREASES TO CONTINUE TO PUT THEM ON VERY
09:56:59AM LEVEL FOOTING.
09:57:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
09:57:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:57:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THE EDUCATION FOR ALL OF US ON
09:57:10AM THE PLAN FOR PARKING.
09:57:11AM AND I DO LOVE THE IDEA OF PUSHING PARKING TO THE OUTSIDE,
09:57:16AM BUT I DO KNOW THAT HART IS TALKING OF A DOWNTOWN CIRCULATOR.
09:57:21AM SO I WOULD LOVE IT -- AND YOU MIGHT ALREADY BE DOING THIS --
09:57:26AM THINKING OF HOW -- FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, ESPECIALLY HOW WE CAN
09:57:30AM MAKE SURE THAT THOSE STOPS MIGHT BE ALONG THOSE PARKING SO
09:57:34AM THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET ON A SCOOTER IN THEIR WORK CLOTHES
09:57:38AM YOU KNOW, DRAGGING BAGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
09:57:41AM AND JUST FOR EVERYONE, BUT ESPECIALLY OUR EMPLOYEES.
09:57:44AM I THINK THAT WILL BE WONDERFUL IF WE CAN CONNECT THOSE --
09:57:49AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I THINK IT IS A GREAT SUGGESTION.
09:57:50AM IT IS IN DEVELOPMENT.
09:57:51AM I WASN'T SURE THIS MORNING HOW FAR THEY HAVE GOTTEN WITH
09:57:54AM THAT, BUT WE WILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT AND WEIGH IN ON THOSE
09:57:58AM COMMENTS.
09:57:59AM GOOD SUGGESTIONS TO THE EXTENT THAT THE CIRCULATOR CAN
09:58:01AM ACCOMMODATE THE CERTAIN STYLES.
09:58:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ABSOLUTELY.
09:58:04AM THANK YOU SO AS MUCH.
09:58:05AM I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF -- OF GROUND TO -- TO MAKE UP
09:58:10AM IN TERMS OF PARKING.
09:58:13AM AND GETTING PEOPLE INTO THE DOWNTOWN CORE WHICH IS WILDLY
09:58:17AM DIFFERENT THAN SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
09:58:18AM SO I KNOW IT IS A DIFFICULT THING TO DO, BUT I APPRECIATE
09:58:23AM THE EXPLANATION AND I LOVE THE FACT WE ARE GIVING A STIPEND
09:58:27AM TO FOLKS WHO NEED TO BE IN THE CITY.
09:58:28AM THANK YOU FOR THINKING OF THOSE FOLKS.
09:58:30AM APPRECIATE IT.
09:58:31AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU.
09:58:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
09:58:35AM THAT UP.
09:58:35AM DID WE HAVE AMPLE PARKING IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA.
09:58:40AM IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN TO BE WITHIN TWO PHLOX OF WHERE
09:58:43AM PEOPLE NEED TO GO.
09:58:44AM LET'S HOPE THIS ONE CENT TAX GOES THROUGH.
09:58:49AM I AM SURE THAT HART WILL PUT A FEW CIRCULATORS DOWNTOWN THAT
09:58:54AM WILL HELP PEOPLE GET FROM WHERE THEY ARE PARKING SPACE IS TO
09:58:57AM WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.
09:58:58AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:58:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GOING TO TAKE A HISTORY COURSE REAL
09:59:02AM QUICK.
09:59:02AM THE REASON WE GOT INTO THAT, THIS CITY -- MAYOR AND THIS
09:59:07AM COUNCIL, ONE OF THE ONLY GARAGES THAT WAS MAKING A PROFIT 20
09:59:11AM SOME YEARS AGO AND STARTED A DOWNFALL.
09:59:13AM AND NOT THIS COUNCIL, NOT THIS MAYOR FROM 6:00 ON FROM
09:59:18AM KENNEDY SOUTH, THEY GAVE IT AWAY.
09:59:21AM SO WHEN YOU GIVE THINGS AWAY TO HELP PEOPLE, IN ESSENCE, YOU
09:59:25AM HURT OTHER PEOPLE DOWN THE ROAD AND THE CAN CAME TO US AND
09:59:29AM HERE IS WHERE WE ARE AT.
09:59:30AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:59:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL, IF YOU WILL FORGIVE ME ON THIS.
09:59:35AM WHILE MISS DUNCAN IS HERE, WHY ISN'T THE CITY CHARGING
09:59:40AM FOR EV HOOK-UPS WITHIN OUR OWN GARAGES?
09:59:43AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THAT IS PROBABLY A NATIONAL QUESTION.
09:59:46AM BECAUSE WE ARE IN A TRANSITION OF WANTING TO EVOLVE TO A
09:59:52AM DIFFERENT TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY.
09:59:59AM TERMS OF OUR VEHICLES.
10:00:00AM ANY TIME YOU HAVE A BIG, HUGE TRANSFORMATION WE ARE IN THIS
10:00:04AM GRAY AREA WHERE DOES THE MARKET COME IN.
10:00:07AM WHERE DOES MARKET COME IN IT TERMS OF WHO OWNS WHAT.
10:00:10AM WHO WILL PROFIT WHAT.
10:00:13AM THERE ARE DIFFERENCES OF OPINIONS WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT
10:00:15AM PAYING FOR PEOPLE'S ELECTRICITY.
10:00:21AM THE OTHER SIDE IS, WE CAN'T GET OVER THE HUMP OF THAT
10:00:24AM TRANSITION UNLESS WE HAVE HELP TO GET THERE.
10:00:26AM I DON'T HAVE A REAL SIMPLE ANSWER FOR THAT.
10:00:28AM I AM TRYING TO SAY WE ARE IN TRYING TO BE IN THE MOST
10:00:32AM PRAGMATIC HELPFUL POSITION THAT WE CAN AS WE WORK THROUGH
10:00:35AM THIS TRANSITION.
10:00:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY LINE OF QUESTIONING I OWN A ELECTRICAL
10:00:40AM VEHICLE AND I GO IN THE GARAGE AND SEE THAT ELECTRICAL TESLA
10:00:43AM THAT HAS BEEN PARKED THERE ALL DAY AND EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE
10:00:46AM AND I DAMN WELL KNOW THEIR CHARGING HAS BEEN COMPLETED FOUR
10:00:50AM HOURS EARLIER AND I STILL CAN'T PARK THERE.
10:00:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH YOU.
10:00:57AM I HAVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE THAT I DO NOT DRIVE THE LAST FEW
10:01:00AM MONTHS PRIMARILY WHAT HE SAID, YOU GO BY AND SEE IT ALL
10:01:06AM FULL.
10:01:06AM I PUT MY OWN ELECTRICAL SYSTEM AT THE HOUSE AND I CHARGE MY
10:01:10AM OWN CAR.
10:01:15AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE CAN DO A BETTER WITH TURNOVER IN OUR EV
10:01:19AM STATION.
10:01:19AM BECAUSE SHOULD BE A SHARED OPPORTUNITY.
10:01:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S HOPE THERE IS SOMETHING WHERE A
10:01:25AM MESSAGE OR TEXT GETS SENT TO THE VEHICLE OWNER SAYING YOUR
10:01:28AM CAR IS FULLY CHARGED.
10:01:29AM PLEASE MOVE IN.
10:01:30AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: OR WE WILL -- NO, JUST KIDDING.
10:01:38AM [LAUGHTER]
10:01:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS DUNCAN.
10:01:41AM ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISS DUNCAN?
10:01:44AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU, YOU ALL.
10:01:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF, YOU WANT TO BRING UP 14?
10:01:52AM >>JOHN BENNETT: IF I CAN FOLLOW THE ORDER ON THE MEMO.
10:01:54AM IS THAT FAIR?
10:01:59AM I WANTED TO TALK OF THE NONAUDIT SERVICE, THE HEAD OF 14 AND
10:02:04AM 36, IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.
10:02:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO RIGHT AHEAD.
10:02:08AM >> ABOUT A YEAR AGO -- I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMAN
10:02:12AM CARLSON ON HIS CONTINUED WORK OF MAKING BUSINESS CASES AS
10:02:17AM WELL AS FINANCIAL ACCOUNTABILITY AND OPPORTUNITY.
10:02:19AM BUT ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I SAW A FLOW OF EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT
10:02:23AM ITEMS COMING THROUGH MY OFFICE.
10:02:25AM AND WE SEND THOSE TO COUNCIL AND A LOT OF TIME IT IS
10:02:28AM RETROSPECTIVE AWARENESS.
10:02:30AM I HAD ASKED CHRISTINE GLOVER'S OFFICE TO DO A NONAUDIT
10:02:35AM SERVICE BECAUSE THEY ALREADY THIS THEIR AUDIT AGENDA SET FOR
10:02:38AM THE YEAR.
10:02:38AM AND SHE POLITICALLY ACCOMMODATED ME AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS
10:02:42AM LATER I GOT BACK THE REPORT AND I SENT THAT TO MR.
10:02:47AM SPEARMAN'S OFFICE WHO IS KINDS OF THE CONDUIT FROM THE
10:02:49AM EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
10:02:53AM I WANTED TO PUT A LITTLE BIT OF A SUMMARY OF WHERE WE ARE
10:02:56AM RIGHT NOW.
10:02:56AM AND I PLAN TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL -- I TELL YOU WHAT.
10:03:01AM I USED TO PUT THINGS STRAIGHT.
10:03:07AM I WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL AFTER FURTHER INFORMATION.
10:03:10AM JUST A RECAP, TOWARD THE END OF FY '21.
10:03:15AM I WILL WAIT FOR A SECOND FOR THE ELMO TO COME BACK UP.
10:03:18AM CAN WE HAVE THE ELMO BACK ON?
10:03:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD, THANK YOU.
10:03:24AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU.
10:03:25AM AGAIN, LATE LAST YEAR IN THE FISCAL YEAR, I REQUESTED THIS
10:03:29AM NONAUDIT SERVICE THAT I TALKED ABOUT.
10:03:31AM READ THROUGH IT.
10:03:32AM I HAND IT TO THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, AND I ASKED THEM --
10:03:36AM THEY ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF UPDATING THEIR PERSONNEL MANUAL OF
10:03:39AM THE PREVIOUS AUDIT AND THEY ARE WORKING BETWEEN THEM AND THE
10:03:42AM LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND IN THAT SPACE RIGHT NOW.
10:03:44AM I NOTICED THAT EMERGENCY PROCUREMENTS WERE NOT A BIG
10:03:48AM COMPONENT OR NOT A COMPONENT OF THE PREVIOUS AUDIT.
10:03:51AM THIS IS THE BREAKOUT EFFORT FOR QUALITY ASSURANCE
10:03:56AM AND QUALITY CONTROL.
10:03:58AM WHEN I SENT IT TO PURCHASING THEY WROTE AN INTERIM MEMO
10:04:03AM UNTIL THE POLICY CAME BACK OUT FROM LEGAL.
10:04:06AM AND IT HAD RECOMMENDATIONS IN THERE.
10:04:07AM THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE SHARED WITH STAFF.
10:04:11AM WHAT WE WANT TO DO NOW AND, AGAIN, THE FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL
10:04:14AM -- AND I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S QUESTION ON THIS
10:04:18AM RECENTLY, TO TAKE THOSE EMERGENCY PURCHASE ORDER THAT HAVE
10:04:22AM BEEN HAPPENED SINCE THAT DIRECTIVE WENT OUT AND DO ANOTHER
10:04:25AM NONAUDIT SERVICE.
10:04:26AM AND THERE IS ABOUT TEN OF THEM OUT THERE.
10:04:29AM BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I ASKED PURCHASING TO UNDERSTAND THE
10:04:33AM PERCENT OF SPEND THAT HAPPENS BOTH BY DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND
10:04:38AM QUANTITY.
10:04:38AM AND THE ONE I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS BY DOLLAR AMOUNT.
10:04:41AM ABOUT 3% OF OUR TOTAL FOR THE LAST FOUR FISCAL YEARS HAVE
10:04:45AM BEEN PUT INTO EMERGENCY PURCHASE ORDERS.
10:04:47AM WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND THE RELEVANCE OF AN EMERGENCY
10:04:50AM SOMETHING BREAKS.
10:04:51AM YOU KNOW, I HAD THEM IN THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:04:54AM WE HAD THEM IN THE FIELD.
10:04:55AM AND THE AFFIDAVIT GETS FILLED OUT.
10:04:57AM IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
10:05:01AM THROUGH THE WORK GROUP AND WE SHARE IT WITH COUNCIL.
10:05:04AM AGAIN, ONCE THIS IS ALL OVER, WE PUT A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT
10:05:07AM BACK.
10:05:08AM WE SEE IF WE NEED COLLECTIVELY TO MAKE ANY POLICY
10:05:13AM RECOMMENDATIONS OR ORDINANCE RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:05:16AM RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT THE TAIL END OF THIS JOURNEY AND GIVE
10:05:19AM KIND OF AN INTERIM REPORT ON THAT.
10:05:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:05:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR JUMPING ON THIS AND GETTING SO
10:05:32AM MANY STAFF TO LOOK AT THIS.
10:05:33AM IF MY ROUGH MATH IS CORRECT, 3% OF THE CURRENT BUDGET IS $60
10:05:39AM MILLION.
10:05:39AM YOU GO BACK THREE YEARS, $180 MILLION.
10:05:42AM MY CONCERN IS THAT SO MANY OF THESE GO THROUGH, MILLION,
10:05:45AM MILLION AND A HALF, TWO MILLION, AND THEY ARE RUSHED THROUGH
10:05:51AM AND WE ARE TOLD WE HAVE TO APPROVE THESE QUICKLY AND
10:05:54AM IMMEDIATELY.
10:05:54AM AND SURE WE GET BRIEFED A LITTLE BIT ON THEM BUT SHOULD BE
10:06:01AM -- YOU AND I STALKED ABOUT THIS PUBLIC, SHOULD BE MORE TIME
10:06:05AM FOR SCRUTINY FROM THE PUBLIC TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
10:06:07AM AND THE COMPOUNDED PROBLEM LIKE WE HAD LAST WEEK THAT THE
10:06:10AM DOCUMENTS GOT INTO SIRE THE DAY BEFORE OR SOME OF THEM DON'T
10:06:15AM MAKE IT TO SIRE.
10:06:15AM AND WE --
10:06:21AM FOR OUR SAKE WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE APPROVING.
10:06:24AM WE DON'T NEED TO BE RUSHED -- IF PEOPLE FEEL RUSH -- IF
10:06:29AM THERE WAS A PIPE BURST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, WE WOULD
10:06:32AM RUSH TO FIX IT.
10:06:33AM UNLESS IF WE SEE THIS AND KNOW WHAT IT IS, IT LOOKS LIKE
10:06:37AM PEOPLE ARE PUSH IT BECAUSE THEY CAN.
10:06:39AM IF THEY CAN EXPLAIN -- YOU REFER TO THIS AS BUSINESS CASE.
10:06:43AM IF THEY CAN EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS NOT JUST FOR US BUT FOR TH\
10:06:47AM PUBLIC'S CASE, THAT WILL BE HELPFUL AND GIVE US AT LEAST A
10:06:51AM WEEK.
10:06:51AM LAST WEEK WE HAD $250 MILLION OF EXPENDITURES THAT HAD TO BE
10:06:56AM APPROVED IMMEDIATELY AND THIS SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN.
10:06:58AM THAT WASN'T AN EMERGENCY REQUEST, BUT IT FELT LIKE AN
10:07:01AM EMERGENCY REQUEST.
10:07:01AM THANK YOU.
10:07:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
10:07:11AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU FOR HEARING THAT REPORT.
10:07:15AM THE NEXT IS ITEM 14 ON THE AGENDA.
10:07:17AM WE ASKED TO MOVE THAT UP TO THIS ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
10:07:21AM AND I AM KIND OF SPEAKING ON BEHALF AND GAMEWORK AND OPEN TO
10:07:28AM -- FRAMEWORK AND OPEN TO FEEDBACK RIGHT NOW.
10:07:31AM OF COURSE NOT NECESSARILY ITEMIZED IN THE BUDGET BUT DURING
10:07:35AM THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, A RECOMMENDATION LAST FRIDAY.
10:07:38AM STAFF MET WITH T.H.A.N. AND GOT FEEDBACK AND I WILL SAY EVEN
10:07:42AM FROM A YEAR AGO THAT WE STARTED DISCUSS THIS AS THE BUDGET
10:07:46AM TURNED THE CORNER FOR FY '22 ABOUT THE NOTION OF HAVING AN
10:07:51AM OMBUDSMAN IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE THE SUBJECT MATTER
10:07:54AM EXPERTISE TO HAVE THAT DIRECT INTERFACE WITH SOME OF THOSE
10:07:57AM CRITICAL PATHS.
10:07:59AM A COMBINATION OF MISS NICOLE TRAVIS'S OFFICE, MISS WYNN AND
10:08:04AM MISS McGREGOR'S OFFICE TO COME TOGETHER.
10:08:07AM AND I PUT KIND OF A FRAMEWORK OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT.
10:08:10AM BEFORE CAROLE POST CAME ON BOARD AND NICOLE TRAVIS CAME ON
10:08:17AM BOARD, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THOSE UNITS ON THE
10:08:22AM LEFT SIDE SOME THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IN PLANNING AND GROWTH
10:08:26AM MANAGEMENT BEFORE ABBYE FEELEY CAME ON BOARD AND TO HAVE THE
10:08:30AM FOUR Cs AND MAKING SURE WE ARE GIVING THE BEST CUSTOMER
10:08:34AM SERVICE IN COMPASSIONATE FRAMEWORK.
10:08:42AM AND THAT WAS THREE YEARS AGO.
10:08:44AM WE HAVE GREAT TALENT AND HANDED OFF THE DIFFERENT BUSINESS
10:08:47AM UNITS TO THE DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP MODEL, WE ARE WORKING ON
10:08:49AM THIS CONCEPT TO PUT IT IN PLACE FOR THE FY '23 APPROACH
10:08:54AM WHICH IS THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM COUNCIL AND
10:08:57AM COMMUNITY.
10:08:57AM ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT GRAPHIC, YOU CAN SEE THAT A
10:09:07AM STRATIFIED APPROACH AND I CAN SHARE THAT WITH COUNCILMAN
10:09:10AM GUDES.
10:09:10AM WE DON'T HAVE ONE POLICE OFFICER OUT OF 1,000.
10:09:12AM WE ARE ONE OF A THOUSAND THAT ARE COMMUNITY-TO ORIENTED
10:09:16AM BASED.
10:09:17AM EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE SOME LEVEL OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
10:09:20AM INSIDE THEIR SOUL OF SERVING THE CITY.
10:09:23AM WE ALSO KNOW WHEN YOU GET TO LAND USE AND ZONING, THERE ARE
10:09:26AM A LOT OF NUANCE IN THERE.
10:09:28AM AND WE CAN SEE FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE SITUATIONAL
10:09:32AM CASES, WHETHER IT IS PUBLIC WORKS OR LAND USE, HAVING THAT
10:09:35AM RIGHT PERSONALITY TO FIT THAT MOLD HAS TO BE STRATIFIED WITH
10:09:40AM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TEAM AND REACHABLE BACK TO THE
10:09:44AM SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS OF 4800 PEOPLE THAT SERVE THE CITY
10:09:48AM EVERY DAY.
10:09:48AM SO THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO REACH DOWN AND GET THAT EXPERTISE
10:09:52AM IN AN EXPEDITIOUS MANNER TO GET BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, AHEAD
10:09:57AM OF THE CALENDARS, AHEAD OF THE MEETINGS.
10:09:59AM WE ARE PULLING BACK AND COMMITTING TO COUNCIL THAT WE AGREE
10:10:03AM WITH THIS OMBUDSMAN, LIAISON APPROACH BUT NOT IN A
10:10:07AM SUPERFICIAL WAY BUT A VERY DETAILED ORIENTED WAY.
10:10:11AM MORE TO COME ON THAT WITH THE BUDGET APPROVAL.
10:10:19AM I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE FEEDBACK AND IF NOT TAKE IT OFF
10:10:23AM LINE.
10:10:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:10:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO LOVE THIS IDEA AND I THANK COUNCILMAN
10:10:29AM MANISCALCO FOR BRING IT UP, BECAUSE AS A RECENT NEIGHBORHOOD
10:10:37AM ACTIVIST, WHENEVER -- WE WOULD SET MEETINGS WITH FOLKS FROM
10:10:42AM THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
10:10:42AM AND BIG -- AND IT WAS WONDERFUL.
10:10:47AM BIG NAMES CAME.
10:10:49AM BUT IT WAS ONE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I CAN'T IMAGINE 20
10:11:00AM NEIGHBORHOODS HAVING THAT SAME MEETING.
10:11:01AM IT WAS VERY VALUABLE AND I LEARNED A LOT, BUT I LEFT THAT
10:11:05AM MEETING SIGNIFICANCE IF THEY HAVE TO DO THIS FOR EVERY
10:11:07AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERY TIME THE BOARD CHANGES OVER, THERE IS
10:11:15AM SOME INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE SAVED IN NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT I
10:11:18AM THINK IT -- THE IDEA OF GETTING THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS
10:11:22AM BUT NOT HAVING TO BE THE FOLKS THAT HAVE SO MUCH WORK TO DO
10:11:27AM WITHIN THE CITY DEPARTMENT.
10:11:28AM SO AS SOMEONE WHO CAN ACTUALLY FOCUS ON NEIGHBORHOODS AND
10:11:36AM NOT HAVE TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE JOB THAT THEY ARE ALREADY
10:11:39AM DOING IS A WONDERFUL IDEA.
10:11:40AM AND I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO SEE HOW THIS FLUSHES OUT.
10:11:44AM AND HOW -- HOW WE ACTUALLY MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
10:11:49AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN NEEDED FOR A LONG TIME.
10:11:54AM BUT I AM REALLY HAPPY TO SEE WE CAN DO THIS WITHOUT
10:11:57AM INTERRUPTING THE STAFF WE ALREADY HAVE.
10:12:00AM AND THE LIMITED TIME THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR WORK.
10:12:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:12:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:12:10AM AND THANK YOU, CHIEF.
10:12:13AM YOU KNOW SOMETIMES WE HAVE HEARINGS WHERE 50 PEOPLE SHOW UP
10:12:16AM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:12:17AM OR MAYBE TWO PEOPLE.
10:12:18AM WHATEVER IT IS, WE ARE VERY BUSY AS A CITY.
10:12:21AM THE THING IS, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND.
10:12:25AM THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS A PD?
10:12:28AM WHAT IS A REZONING?
10:12:29AM WHAT IS THE ORDER BY A MAGISTRATE OR RECOMMENDATION?
10:12:33AM WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN?
10:12:34AM PEOPLE HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT IS A COMPLICATED
10:12:37AM PROCESS.
10:12:37AM A PERSON DEDICATED GO OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, MEET WITH
10:12:41AM THEM BEFORE THEY WILL COME TO CITY COUNCIL, BEFORE A
10:12:43AM HEARING, A LOT OF QUESTIONS COULD GET ANSWERED.
10:12:46AM WE WILL SPEED UP THE PROCESS.
10:12:48AM A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD GO UP AND SHOW
10:12:51AM UP INSTEAD OF 100 PEOPLE AND GIVING PEOPLE FALSE HOPES.
10:12:55AM SHOW UP IN NUMBERS AND FLIP THIS OR THAT WHATEVER DECISION
10:13:02AM THE CITY COUNCIL MAKES AND BECOME MORE EFFICIENT.
10:13:06AM I WISH TELL TEN ABBYE FEELEYS BUT ONLY ONE PERSON.
10:13:14AM AND I APPRECIATE THE REPORT AND WANT THE FEEDBACK TODAY
10:13:18AM BEFORE WE GO INTO THE BUDGET HEARINGS BUT WILL MAKE THINGS
10:13:21AM EASIER BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST -- FROM MY MOTHER TO THE
10:13:24AM NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW.
10:13:24AM SOUNDS VERY COMPLICATED AND WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY OUT THERE
10:13:30AM THAT CAN EXPLAIN THINGS AHEAD OF TIME WE CAN SPEED UP THE
10:13:34AM PROCESS AND GET THINGS GOING BECAUSE WE ARE VERY, VERY BUSY.
10:13:38AM I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
10:13:39AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:13:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VERANDA -- VIERA.
10:13:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: VERANDA?
10:13:49AM THAT IS HILARIOUS.
10:13:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO OFFENSE, I AM WAY AHEAD OF MYSELF.
10:13:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: I ALWAYS GET CALLED MANISCALCO.
10:13:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ORLANDO GUIDO.
10:14:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITIZENS YOU ARE ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN GUDES
10:14:06AM -- COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:14:08AM I DON'T WANT YOU TO LOSE IT AT THE DAIS.
10:14:13AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:14:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
10:14:16AM THAT IS FUNNY.
10:14:17AM A POSITION THAT IF DONE RIGHT -- I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT
10:14:20AM WE LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES DO WITH THIS WHICH I KNOW Y'ALL
10:14:30AM HAVE DONE.
10:14:31AM I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE ILLUSION TO PEOPLE WHO COME TO CITY
10:14:36AM COUNCIL THAT WILL CREATE SOMEBODY THAT WILL LOBBY AGAINST
10:14:38AM PROJECTS, FOR EXAMPLE.
10:14:39AM IT WILL BE SOMEBODY WHO IS AN INFORMATION GIVER WHO TALKS
10:14:43AM ABOUT BALLS AND STRIKES, WHAT THE RULES ARE AND WHAT
10:14:46AM EXPECTATIONS ARE BECAUSE LISTEN, A LOT OF THE PUBLIC DOESN'T
10:14:50AM KNOW THAT CITY COUNCIL -- OUR JOBS ARE OFTEN QUASI-JUDICIAL
10:14:58AM AND WE CAN'T BE IN THE CROWD, ETC., ETC., ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE
10:15:02AM ON LAND USE PROJECTS, ETC., ETC., THAT ARE QUASI JUDICIAL
10:15:08AM JUST LIKE A JUDGE CAN'T.
10:15:09AM THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED THAT LAST TIME.
10:15:12AM I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.
10:15:13AM I THINK WHENEVER WE CREATE A NEW POSITION AND Y'ALL ARE
10:15:19AM DOING IT.
10:15:20AM IMPORTANT WE ARE NOT REPLICATING EFFORTS OR OTHER
10:15:23AM DEPARTMENTS.
10:15:23AM THIS -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU PAY THIS -- IF YOU MAKE U
10:15:27AM $100,000 WITH BENEFITS AND ETC.
10:15:29AM WE WILL BE TALKING OF $200,000 OF TAXPAYER MONEY THAT CAN GO
10:15:34AM TO OTHER THINGS.
10:15:34AM I ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANALYSIS IS DONE WHICH I
10:15:37AM KNOW YOU ALL ARE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND DOING THAT, ETC.
10:15:40AM BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS -- TO SURE THAT THE ROLE IS
10:15:48AM DEFINED AND NOT DUPLICATING EFFORTS AND GO TO POSITIONS AND
10:15:54AM DO INQUIRIES TO SEE HOW THAT POSITION IS GOING.
10:15:57AM WHEN YOU CREATE A NEW POSITION, THAT IS EVER LASTING LIFE IN
10:16:04AM GOVERNMENT.
10:16:04AM WE DON'T WANT TO WASTE TAXPAYERS' MONEY.
10:16:08AM IT MAY BE GOING WELL BUT DEVOLVES INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
10:16:14AM FISCAL STEWARDSHIP AND MANAGEMENT.
10:16:16AM I AM GLAD TO SUPPORT THIS AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS WORKING
10:16:19AM TO SUPPORT THIS IN EVERYTHING.
10:16:20AM BUT, AGAIN, A COUPLE OF PILLARS ARE THAT IMPORTANT WITH
10:16:27AM REGARD TO EXPECTATION, WITH REGARD TO PERMANENCY AND
10:16:31AM OVERSIGHT AND POTENTIAL DUPLICATION OF EFFORTS.
10:16:33AM I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
10:16:34AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:16:36AM THANK YOU, MR. CITRO.
10:16:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET ME GET THIS RIGHT.
10:16:41AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:16:43AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:16:44AM YOU KNOW FOR TOO MANY YEARS THE FOCUS OF THIS CITY HAS BEEN
10:16:48AM ON SUBSIDIZING BIG DEVELOPERS TO COME IN.
10:16:52AM AND YOU CAN JUSTIFY THAT IN THE WAY LONG-TERM GOAL GET A
10:16:57AM RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
10:16:57AM WHAT HAPPENS IS THE MONEY GETS TRAPPED IN CRAs AND NOT SPENT
10:17:02AM IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:17:02AM WE HAVE KNOWN FOR 20 YEARS THAT THE NEW ERA OF ECONOMIC
10:17:05AM DEVELOPMENT IS CREATING QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE.
10:17:08AM BECAUSE IF THE ARE LOCATED IN YOUR COMMUNITIES, THE
10:17:12AM COMPANIES FOLLOW THEM.
10:17:14AM BECAUSE OF COVID, SO MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING REMOTELY, SO
10:17:18AM MANY PEOPLE IN BIG COMPANIES IN NEW YORK BECAUSE THEY WANT
10:17:21AM TO MOVE HERE AND WORKING REMOTELY AS LONG AS THEIR COMPANIES
10:17:24AM WILL ALLOW THEM.
10:17:24AM WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON QUALITY OF LIFE AND CONTINUE
10:17:32AM TO INVEST IN AREAS THAT ARE QUALITIES OF LIFE.
10:17:35AM AND CAN'T JUST BE A MARKETING SLOGAN.
10:17:38AM WE NEED TO DEVELOP.
10:17:40AM THIS IDEA HAS BEEN CIRCULATING A LONG TIME.
10:17:43AM AND THE ORIGINAL GENESIS OF IT WAS COMPARING IT TO THE
10:17:46AM FLORIDA OFFICE OF PUBLIC COUNCIL.
10:17:49AM I WILL JUST READ THIS REAL FAST.
10:17:51AM THE OFFICE OF PUBLIC COUNCIL ESTABLISHED BY THE FLORIDA
10:17:54AM LEGISLATURE AS A SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF
10:17:57AM FLORIDA AND ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF FLORIDA'S UTILITY
10:18:00AM CONSUMERS.
10:18:01AM AND IT GETS MORE INTO THE LOBBYING AND ADVOCATING AREA AND
10:18:07AM MAY BE A FINE LINE THERE AS MY COLLEAGUE JUST MENTIONED.
10:18:10AM MY EXPECTATION AS STEPHANIE POYNOR POINTED OUT, HEAD OF
10:18:16AM T.H.A.N., THIS PERSON WOULD EDUCATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD
10:18:19AM ASSOCIATIONS AND NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS ON WHAT THEY CAN AND
10:18:21AM CANNOT DO AND HOW TO DEVELOP COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL
10:18:25AM EVIDENCE.
10:18:25AM I THINK IT IS BENEFICIAL TO US, THE STAFF, AND EVEN THE
10:18:29AM APPLICANTS IF ONE PERSON SHOW UP WITH A LIST OF COMPETENT,
10:18:33AM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE INSTEAD OF 50 PEOPLE IN BLUE SHIRTS
10:18:37AM SAYING THEY DON'T LIKE BLUE HOUSES AND WE CAN HAVE
10:18:41AM SUBSTANTIVE CONVERSATIONS.
10:18:42AM WE HAVE SEEN THAT WORK THAT STAFF HAS MET WITH PEOPLE LIKE
10:18:45AM SOUTH OF GANDY, BUT TAKES A LONG TIME TO BRING EVERYBODY UP
10:18:49AM TO SPEED AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER.
10:18:55AM AND LAST MAYOR CREATED THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNIVERSITY WHICH AT
10:18:58AM THE TIME WAS SEEN AS AN ATTACK ON T.H.A.N., TAKING POWER
10:19:03AM AWAY FROM T.H.A.N.
10:19:04AM THOSE WHO GARAGE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE THEIR PICTURE AND GET A
10:19:09AM CERTIFICATE BUT THEY FEEL THAT NOTHING HAPPENS.
10:19:12AM NOW THEY ARE TRAINED AND GET A CERTIFICATE, SEEMED MORE OF
10:19:16AM A PR INSTEAD OF SUBSTANTIVE.
10:19:19AM HOW CAN THEY ADVOCATE WHAT THEY WANT.
10:19:22AM IF THEY HAVE SIDEWALKS THAT THEY ARE NOT PREPARED, HOW DO
10:19:25AM THEY ADVOCATE.
10:19:26AM OR SUNSET PARK COMPLAIN OF CONSTRUCTION NOT BEING DONE AND
10:19:30AM HOW CAN THEY DO IT IN A CONSTRUCTIVE WAY.
10:19:33AM HOW CAN WE TESTIFY OF LAND USE ISSUES.
10:19:40AM SO I HOPE THAT WE LOOK AT THIS IN A SUBSTANTIVE WAY, NOT
10:19:45AM JUST PR WAY LIKE MAYOR'S NEIGHBORHOOD UNIVERSITY WAS IN THE
10:19:50AM BEGINNING.
10:19:50AM MAY END UP -- WITH LEGAL COUNCIL, MAY ADVISE IT SHOULD BE
10:19:54AM SOMEONE OUTSIDE THAT WE SHOULD PAY.
10:19:56AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LIABILITIES AND LINES ARE.
10:19:58AM WE NEED TO CAREFULLY DEFINE IT.
10:20:00AM ALSO TALK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE DON'T
10:20:02AM WANT ANY LAWSUITS FROM THIS.
10:20:04AM STREAMLINING THE PROCESS AND EDUCATING EVERYONE WHAT NEEDS
10:20:08AM TO BE DONE AND WHAT CAN'T BE DONE WILL HELP EVERYONE.
10:20:10AM THANK YOU.
10:20:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:20:16AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
10:20:17AM THEY ARE ANGRY OR UPSET.
10:20:19AM THEY ARE UPSET AND ANGRY BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS
10:20:22AM OR THEY FEEL THAT SOMEONE IS GETTING OVER ON THEM.
10:20:24AM YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE TALKING OF EAST TAMPA NOW.
10:20:27AM NOW YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA WHO SAY THEY
10:20:30AM HAVE BEEN BAMBOOZLED ALL THESE YEARS.
10:20:32AM ALL THIS MONEY AND NOBODY HELPED US.
10:20:41AM MISS JONES, 89, THE 90, SITTING ON THESE BOARDS -- THEY KNO
10:20:47AM NOTHING.
10:20:48AM THIS IS THE RULE OF THE LAW.
10:20:49AM YOU SHOULD BE DOING THIS AND THAT.
10:20:51AM THIS IS WHY WE NOW HAVE A LITTLE MOVEMENT GOING.
10:20:53AM WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN EAST TAMPA THAT HAVEN'T BEEN
10:20:56AM SPENT.
10:20:56AM I MEAN A LOT OF MONEY.
10:20:57AM IT'S SHAMEFUL THAT MONEY HAVEN'T BEEN SPENT FOR OUR
10:21:01AM COMMUNITIES.
10:21:01AM SO I EMBRACED THIS PERSON, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A
10:21:05AM PERSON THAT IS NOT TIED AT THE HIP TO A PORTION OF THE
10:21:11AM ADMINISTRATION OR A DEVELOPER OR PERSON WHO IS EQUALLY
10:21:14AM BALANCED TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE COMMUNITY WHAT THEIR RIGHTS
10:21:18AM ARE, WHAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO AND THEY DON'T.
10:21:21AM WE WANT GOOD DEVELOPMENT.
10:21:23AM WHEN I LOOK AT SOME OF THE STUFF SOMETIMES, THE DEVELOPMENT
10:21:27AM GETS OVER ON OUR OWN STAFF SOMETIMES.
10:21:30AM DEVELOPER HAVE BIG TIME ATTORNEYS.
10:21:34AM THEY GET OVER ON OUR OWN STAFF.
10:21:36AM SO I AM JUST HOPING THAT WE EMBRACE THIS PROJECT AND SOMEONE
10:21:42AM WHO HAS A BALANCE TO UNDERSTAND ALL SIDES.
10:21:45AM EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON THEIR RIGHTS.
10:21:47AM TALK WITH DEVELOPERS.
10:21:48AM MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND -- A LOT HAS TO BE ON THE FOREFRONT
10:21:52AM BEFORE THE PEOPLE FILE FOR THE STUFF AND KILL A LOT OF
10:21:57AM THINGS GOING ON THAT CAN BE WORKED OUT.
10:21:58AM JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN IT SHOULD BE
10:22:01AM THERE.
10:22:01AM YOU HAVE THE MONEY AND THE POWER AND YOU PUT IT THERE AND
10:22:05AM OPPRESS THE PEOPLE.
10:22:05AM I HOPE WE HAVE A PROCESS BEFORE THIS STUFF IS EVEN FILED,
10:22:10AM YOU HAVE A PERSON WHO CAN LOOK AND TALK TO THE COMMUNITY AND
10:22:13AM THE DEVELOP TO COME TO SOME RESOLUTION AND RESOLVE BEFORE IT
10:22:16AM EVEN GETS HERE AND WE ARE NOT HERE UNTIL 1:00 IN THE
10:22:19AM MORNING.
10:22:19AM THAT IS MY SPIEL ON THAT.
10:22:22AM >> GOOD POINT.
10:22:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:22:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM IN THE PROCESS OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT
10:22:29AM EVERYBODY WANTS.
10:22:29AM YOU THINK WE HAVE BEEN CONFUSED LISTENING TO WE ARE TALKING
10:22:34AM ABOUT, EVERYBODY IS CONFUSED.
10:22:35AM WHEN YOU TALK OF A SALARY AND YOU TALK ABOUT EXPENSES AND
10:22:39AM TALK MORE AND MORE, SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, SOMEBODY IS
10:22:42AM GOING TO HAVE TO DRAW A LINE.
10:22:43AM THINGS ARE MOVING SO FAST.
10:22:46AM YOU HAD COMPUTERS.
10:22:48AM YOU HAD EVERYTHING YOU WANT.
10:22:49AM YOU CAN FIND EVERYTHING.
10:22:50AM IT IS ON OPEN AIRWAYS.
10:22:52AM AND NOW YOU ARE TELLING US WE CAN'T COMMUNICATE.
10:22:55AM AND I DON'T USE COMPUTERS.
10:22:57AM SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS, I AM NOT SOLD ON ANY IDEA UNTIL I DO
10:23:02AM MY OWN DUE DILIGENCE.
10:23:04AM THANK YOU.
10:23:05AM >>JOHN BENNETT: UNDERSTOOD.
10:23:07AM SO JUST A FEW POINTS OF FEEDBACK.
10:23:11AM ONE, IF YOU RETHINK WHAT IS LEFT OF THE JOURNEY -- SORRY, ON
10:23:16AM THE FY '23.
10:23:18AM THE 6th IS A LITTLE TOO EARLY BUT I WILL USE THE ANALOGY OF
10:23:24AM LAST YEAR WE ASKED TPD TO BRING IN THE MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM
10:23:27AM AND KIND OF EINVOLVED DURING THE FINAL STAGE OF THE BUDGET
10:23:31AM THAT WHAT I AM HOPING TO WORK WITH MISS TRAVIS AND MISS WYNN
10:23:36AM AND COME BACK WITH THE FRAMEWORK OF THE LAST HEARING AND THE
10:23:39AM MAYOR, NOT ONLY DOES SHE SUPPORT THE CONCEPT BUT REPURPOSING
10:23:45AM POSITIONS INSTEAD OF ADDING MONEY TO THINGS.
10:23:48AM WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR POSITIONS THAT MAY BE STALE OR
10:23:52AM UNFILLED BUT NOT ADDING BUT BACKFILLING POSITIONS THERE.
10:23:55AM THE LAST THING WHICH IS KIND OF MY POINT OF STRATIFYING THE
10:23:59AM SERVICE IS WHOEVER WILL LAND THIS POSITION -- WHO KNOWS
10:24:02AM BASED ON SCALE AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THE CITY WITH ALL
10:24:04AM THE SUPPORT OF COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC OF GOING UNDERGROUND
10:24:08AM AND ABOVE GROUND AND MORE THAN WE HAVE, THIS MAY BLOSSOM
10:24:13AM INTO MORE NEED AND BE MORE GEO SPATIAL THAN CITYWIDE.
10:24:20AM WE WILL BRING SOMETHING BACK TO COUNCIL ON SECOND PUBLIC
10:24:23AM HEARING AND HAVE A BETTER FRAMEWORK AND A BETTER UNDERSTAND
10:24:26AM WHAT THE FEEDBACK IS.
10:24:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
10:24:29AM I AM SERIOUSLY HOPE THIS PERSON IS THAT CONDUIT BETWEEN THE
10:24:33AM PUBLIC AND THE CITY.
10:24:34AM WHERE THAT PERSON DOESN'T HAVE TO GO TO FOUR OR FIVE
10:24:38AM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WHERE THAT PERSON CAN BE THAT
10:24:46AM ONE-STOP-SHOP.
10:24:48AM >>JOHN BENNETT: WE WILL TRAIN STAFF TO BE -- BECAUSE SPEED
10:24:53AM MATTERS AT THIS.
10:24:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:24:56AM >>JOHN BENNETT: SECOND TO LAST ITEM MY ONNER TO BRING MISS
10:25:00AM ANDREA ZELMAN FORWARD.
10:25:00AM I BELIEVE HER HUSBAND HAS GIVEN MANY YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE
10:25:03AM COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY, BUT HE IS WATCHING ONLINE FROM, I
10:25:07AM BELIEVE, GAINESVILLE.
10:25:08AM SO OUR HONOR TO BRING ANDREA FORWARD.
10:25:11AM I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF HER BACKGROUND EVEN
10:25:15AM THOUGH I SENT THIS IN BY MEMO.
10:25:17AM GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE IT WHO HAVEN'T BEEN.
10:25:20AM THE ADMINISTRATION AND, OF COURSE, THE MAYOR AND SERVING TO
10:25:26AM COUNCIL IS BRINGING MISS ANDREA ZELMAN FORWARD AS THE
10:25:30AM RECOMMENDATION FOR THE NEXT CITY ATTORNEY.
10:25:31AM I HAVE SENT YOU HER CURRICULUM VITAE.
10:25:37AM PART OF THE CITY ALL THE WAY BACK IN THE MID-90s.
10:25:39AM WORKED DILIGENTLY IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND FROM 2019 TO
10:25:43AM DATE, THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
10:25:46AM SHE COMES FROM THE GREAT PUBLIC UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
10:25:49AM I KNOW SOME OF THE ALUM ARE HERE TO CELEBRATE THAT.
10:25:52AM I TOOK THE LIBERTY OF PUTTING A NOTE IN HERE SAYING SHE IS
10:25:55AM CONSISTENTLY PUT THE TOP ATTORNEY LIST FROM FLORIDA'S LEGAL
10:26:00AM ELITE, AND THIS YEAR WAS NO DIFFERENT.
10:26:02AM JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE HOUSEKEEPING, THERE
10:26:05AM IS NO RESIDENCY WAIVER REQUIRED FOR MISS ZELMAN SHOULD YOU
10:26:08AM CONFIRM HER TODAY.
10:26:10AM ANDREA.
10:26:11AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I TALKED TO SEVERAL OF YOU.
10:26:23AM I DON'T TAKE ANYTHING FOR GRANTED AND I WOULD APPRECIATE
10:26:26AM YOUR VOTE CONFIRM THIS APPOINTMENT.
10:26:30AM I AM GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I WILL HAVE A FEW
10:26:35AM REMARKS YOU WILL HOLD.
10:26:38AM I THINK THERE IS A QUESTION.
10:26:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:26:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: MISS ZELMAN, YOU KNOW I AM A BIG FAN.
10:26:50AM I AM A BIG FAN OF CLAY'S.
10:26:52AM AND WE HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR A LONG TIME.
10:26:55AM AND WE WORKED TOGETHER -- SEVERAL OF US WORKED TOGETHER ON
10:26:58AM THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND GREAT WORKING WITH YOU
10:27:01AM THERE AND WORKING WITH US HERE.
10:27:02AM YOU ALSO KNOW THAT CITY COUNCIL BY CHARTER HAVE NO POWER
10:27:06AM AFTER THIS MOMENT.
10:27:07AM ONCE WE APPROVE YOU JUST LIKE SENATE CONFIRMING THE SUPREME
10:27:11AM COURT JUSTICE, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE POWER -- MAYBE LESS
10:27:15AM POWER THAN THE SENATE AND WE HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS.
10:27:17AM I THINK YOU HAVE SEEN OR ARE AWARE THAT THERE WERE -- THAT
10:27:21AM THERE IS LOTS OF EVIDENCE ABOUT YOUR TWO PREDECESSORS AND
10:27:24AM HOW THEY WORKED AGAINST CITY COUNCIL.
10:27:27AM SO WE HAVE HAD SOME AGREEMENTS OR DISAGREEMENTS ABOUT THAT.
10:27:31AM SO I WANT -- I HAVE -- I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE, ESPECIALLY ON
10:27:35AM THIS BIG DAY FOR YOU, BUT THIS IS MY ONLY CHANCE TO ASK YOU
10:27:39AM SOME REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS.
10:27:40AM CAN YOU PLEASE CONFIRM WHO THE CLIENT IS OF THE CITY
10:27:44AM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
10:27:45AM >> YES.
10:27:46AM AND FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T AGREE THAT YOU WON'T HAVE TIME TO
10:27:50AM ASK ME QUESTIONS AFTER THAT.
10:27:51AM BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE AN OPEN DOOR POLICY, OPEN EAR POLICY.
10:27:56AM IF I AM CONFIRMED, I WILL ALWAYS BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU.
10:27:59AM BECAUSE IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, WE REPRESENT THE CITY OF
10:28:03AM TAMPA, THE ENTITY.
10:28:04AM THAT INCLUDES THE CITY COUNCIL AS A BODY, AND THAT INCLUDES
10:28:08AM THE MAYOR AND THAT INCLUDES THE STAFF THE ADMINISTRATION OF
10:28:14AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:28:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. -- MORRIS -- I WILL PASS THIS OUT TO MY
10:28:22AM COLLEAGUES AND THE CLERK.
10:28:23AM THIS IS AN EXCERPT FROM THE CHARTER THAT I PULLED UP LAST
10:28:27AM NIGHT.
10:28:27AM DID YOU -- COULD YOU JUST READ -- COULD YOU JUST READ THE
10:28:33AM FIRST HIGHLIGHTED PART THERE WHERE IT DEFINES THE LEGAL
10:28:36AM DEPARTMENT'S CLIENT.
10:28:37AM >> THE FIRST HIGHLIGHTED ONE.
10:28:43AM THE LEGAL ADVISOR OF THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND COMMITTEES
10:28:47AM THEREFORE AND OF THE SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS, OFFICERS AND
10:28:49AM BOARDS OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT.
10:28:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAD THREE DIFFERENT ATTORNEYS LOOK AT THIS
10:28:54AM AND SAYS IT VERY CLEAR THAT THE -- THAT THE CLIENTS OF THE
10:29:00AM CITY ATTORNEY ARE THE MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE
10:29:02AM COMMITTEES, AND ALSO THE DEPARTMENTS, OFFICERS, BOARDS OF
10:29:06AM THE CITY GOVERNMENT.
10:29:06AM SO CONSIDERING THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS, WILL
10:29:10AM YOU AFFIRM THAT IS TRUE.
10:29:11AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:: THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
10:29:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU ALSO CONFIRM UNDER FLORIDA BAR RULES
10:29:22AM THAT YOU WILL HAVE THE DUTY TO DEFEND EACH OF YOUR CLIENTS?
10:29:28AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: OF COURSE, YES.
10:29:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU CONFIRM UNDER FLORIDA BAR RULES YOU
10:29:39AM HAVE A DUTY OF CONFIDENTIALITY REGARDING YOUR CLIENTS AND
10:29:43AM THAT WILL INCLUDE NOT SPEAKING TO THE MEDIA WITHOUT YOUR
10:29:46AM CLIENT'S APPROVAL?
10:29:48AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: LET ME JUST SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:29:49AM FIRST, EARLIER YOU SAID SOMETHING OF THE LAST TWO CITY
10:29:53AM ATTORNEYS WORKING AGAINST THE CITY COUNCIL.
10:29:54AM JUST FOR THE RECORD, I JUST WANTS TO SAY I DON'T AGREE WITH
10:29:58AM THAT REPRESENTATION.
10:29:59AM IN TERMS OF SPEAKING TO THE MEDIA, I THINK ALL OF US HAVE A
10:30:05AM DUTY TO BE RESPONSIVE TO QUESTIONS RAISED BY THE MEDIA.
10:30:08AM SO -- AND -- WHERE IS CHARLIE FREGO.
10:30:16AM HE FREQUENTLY ASKS ME QUESTIONS AND I I HAVE TO RESPOND.
10:30:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: HEARD TO THE TERM, PREJUDICIAL EX-JUDICIAL
10:30:28AM STATEMENT.
10:30:28AM HAVE YOU HEARD OF THAT TERM BEFORE.
10:30:30AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:: YES.
10:30:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: WOULD YOU REMEMBER THAT WOULD BE A PART OF
10:30:34AM THE GUIDELINES OF THE FLORIDA BAR?
10:30:36AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YES.
10:30:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: UNDER THAT DEFINITION, WOULD IT MEAN THAT
10:30:39AM THE CITY ATTORNEY SHOULD NOT SAY ANYTHING THAT IS
10:30:42AM PREJUDICIAL TO THEIR CLIENT AS YOU JUST DEFINED TO THE MEDIA
10:30:46AM OR ANYONE ELSE WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THEIR CLIENT.
10:30:50AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:: REMEMBER, EX-PARTE MEANS SPEAKING TO A
10:30:53AM JUDGE OR SOMEONE ASKING IN A QUASI JUDICIAL.
10:30:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE TERM PREJUDICIAL, EXTRA JUDICIAL
10:31:01AM STATEMENT.
10:31:02AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION AGAIN?
10:31:04AM I FEEL LIKE I AM BEING DEPOSED.
10:31:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT IS PART OF THE FLORIDA BAR GUIDELINES
10:31:10AM UNDER FLORIDA BAR GUIDELINES, ATTORNEYS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO
10:31:13AM SPEAK ABOUT THEIR CLIENTS TO ANYONE WITHOUT THEIR CLIENTS'
10:31:18AM APPROVAL.
10:31:18AM THAT IS WHAT THAT MEANS.
10:31:23AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WILL LOOK AT THAT BAR RULE.
10:31:24AM I THINK I KNOW WHICH BAR RULE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
10:31:26AM REFERRING TO INDIVIDUAL CLIENTS IN LITIGATION.
10:31:29AM REMEMBER, OUR OFFICE DOESN'T REPRESENT EACH OF YOU
10:31:33AM INDIVIDUALLY.
10:31:33AM WE REPRESENT THE CITY COUNCIL AS A BODY.
10:31:36AM SO I THINK IF WE ARE ASKED QUESTIONS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AS
10:31:40AM A BODY, WE CAN ANSWER THEM.
10:31:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: BUT ANSWERING A QUESTION ABOUT A CITY
10:31:45AM COUNCIL MEMBER THAT THEN HURTS YOUR CLIENT CITY COUNCIL WILL
10:31:48AM BE A VIOLATION OF THE TRUST WITH THE CLIENT CITY COUNCIL.
10:31:52AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:: THAT WOULD NOT BE MY INTENT.
10:31:53AM LET ME JUST SAY I FULLY PROMISE I WILL ACT IN ACCORDANCE
10:31:58AM WITH THE FLORIDA BAR RULES.
10:31:59AM YOU KNOW AS I SAID WHEN I SPOKE TO YOU PRIOR TO THIS
10:32:03AM MEETING, AS AN ATTORNEY, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT I RESPECT AND
10:32:07AM TRUST MY CLIENTS.
10:32:08AM AND THEY RESPECT AND TRUST ME.
10:32:10AM I WILL DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO EARN THAT TRUST.
10:32:12AM I HAVE NO INTENTION OF VIOLATING BAR RULES OR DOING ANYTHING
10:32:16AM ELSE INAPPROPRIATE.
10:32:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, AND -- THERE IS A LOT -- A LOT I COULD
10:32:22AM SAY ABOUT THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.
10:32:23AM LOTS OF EXAMPLES.
10:32:25AM AN EXAMPLE THAT CAME FORWARD RECENTLY WAS A -- A MEMO FROM
10:32:30AM THE MAYOR ABOUT NAMING STREETS AND BUILDINGS.
10:32:32AM AND IN THE WHEREAS CLAUSE, THE MAYOR HAS A RIGHT TO NAME
10:32:38AM BUILDINGS.
10:32:38AM IT IS NOT IN THE CHARTER AT ALL.
10:32:39AM THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE THINGS HAPPENING.
10:32:43AM PLUS THE LAST CITY ATTORNEY SPOKE OUT OF SCHOOL ABOUT ME AND
10:32:47AM OTHER CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:32:48AM AND I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
10:32:51AM SO HERE IS ANOTHER BIG QUESTION.
10:32:53AM WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE IS A CONFLICT.
10:32:54AM SO OBVIOUSLY MANY CONFLICTS.
10:32:57AM WE ARE OFTEN TOLD THAT WE CAN NOT CREATE A COMMITTEE BECAUSE
10:33:00AM THE MAYOR HAS TO AGREE.
10:33:01AM BUT WHEN THE MAYOR WANTS TO CREATE A COMMITTEE, WE ARE NOT
10:33:05AM ASKED TO APPROVE THAT.
10:33:07AM HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH CONFLICT IF THE MAYOR ONE OF YOUR
10:33:10AM CLIENTS WANTS SOMETHING AND THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS
10:33:12AM SOMETHING.
10:33:13AM HOW DO YOU ADDRESS CONFLICTS.
10:33:18AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WILL BE GLAD TO YOU WHEN THE ORIGINAL CRB
10:33:21AM WAS CREATED.
10:33:21AM THAT AT THE TIME THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS JULIA MANDEL.
10:33:26AM AND THE QUESTION DID SHE HAVE A CONFLICT REPRESENTING THE
10:33:32AM CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR AND GWEN YOUNG OF CARLTON FIELDS
10:33:37AM TO WRITE A LEGAL OPINION ON THAT QUESTION.
10:33:39AM AND SHE CONCLUDED THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY DOESN'T HAVE A
10:33:42AM CONFLICT.
10:33:43AM WE ARE LIKE A CORPORATE ATTORNEY THAT REPRESENTS BOTH THE
10:33:45AM BOARD AND THE CEO.
10:33:47AM SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT -- AND I THINK WHAT YOU ARE -- WHAT
10:33:51AM YOU ARE ASKING IN A MORE GROUND LEVEL IF THE MAYOR AND YOU
10:33:55AM DISAGREE, WHAT WILL I DO.
10:33:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL DISAGREE.
10:34:01AM THAT EXAMPLE YOU GAVE, A LOT OF FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT EXAMPLE
10:34:05AM BUT I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON THAT.
10:34:07AM IF THERE IS A CONFLICT, WHAT DO YOU DO?
10:34:10AM IN CITY -- REMEMBER BAR RULES.
10:34:12AM IF AN ATTORNEY HAS A CONFLICT THEY HAVE TO RESIGN ONE SIDE
10:34:16AM OR REFER TO OUTSIDE COUNCIL.
10:34:17AM HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU REFER IT TO OUTSIDE COUNSEL,
10:34:21AM WE WILL HAVE OBJECTIVE OUTSIDE COUNSEL AS IN THE CASE YOU
10:34:24AM MENTIONED.
10:34:24AM HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNSEL IS ALSO REPRESENTING
10:34:28AM -- HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THE -- THAT THE LEGAL COUNSEL
10:34:31AM IS ALSO REPRESENTING CITY COUNCIL, NOT JUST THE MAYOR'S
10:34:34AM INTEREST.
10:34:40AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YOU ARE RIGHT.
10:34:41AM SOMETIMES OUR OFFICE HIRED A OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO AVOID VIEW
10:34:48AM OF INAPPROPRIATENESS.
10:34:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OF THEM AGGRESSIVELY ATTACKED A
10:34:53AM CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
10:34:54AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ANY OUTSIDE COUNSEL WHO IS HIRED IS A
10:34:58AM MEMBER OF THE BAR AND SWORN AN OATH AND WHOLLY INAPPROPRIATE
10:35:01AM FOR THEM TO ACT ANY WAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BAR RULES.
10:35:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK YOU THE SECOND HIGHLIGHTED SECTION
10:35:10AM ON THE PAGE.
10:35:11AM FROM THE CHARTER.
10:35:12AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: REGARDING THE DUTIES OF THE CITY COUNCIL,
10:35:15AM ALSO TO APPEAR, ADVOCATE AND DEFEND THE RIGHTS AND INTERESTS
10:35:18AM OF THE CITY OR ANY OFFICER OF THE CITY IN ANY SUIT OR
10:35:22AM PROSECUTION FOR ANY ACT IN THE DISCHARGE OF HIS OFFICIAL
10:35:26AM DUTIES.
10:35:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU CONFIRM YOUR DUTY UNDER THAT SECTION
10:35:30AM OF THE CHARTER?
10:35:32AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YES.
10:35:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: INCLUDES INDIVIDUALS, NOT JUST CITY COUNCIL
10:35:35AM AS A WHOLE.
10:35:37AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YES.
10:35:37AM AS I TOLD YOU BEFORE A BODY OF CASE LAW AND STATUTES THAT
10:35:41AM GOVERN WHEN IT IS APPROPRIATE TO DEFEND AN INDIVIDUAL,
10:35:44AM OFFICER, OR EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY.
10:35:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: LOOK AT THAT SECTION -- I AM NOT GOING TO
10:35:49AM HAVE YOU READ THE WHOLE THING -- DOESN'T TALK ABOUT MONEY
10:35:52AM BUT DEFEND AND PROTECT.
10:35:53AM SECTION 7.02.
10:35:55AM THE BUDGET.
10:35:56AM CAN YOU READ THE FIRST SENTENCE THERE.
10:35:59AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: NO MONEY MAY BE DISBURSED FROM THE CITY
10:36:03AM TREASURY BUT APPROPRIATIONS MADE BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
10:36:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: THERE WAS AN OPINION BY YOUR PREDECESSOR OR
10:36:12AM TWO PREDECESSORS.
10:36:14AM THE PREDECESSOR TO PAY SETTLEMENTS.
10:36:17AM THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS A RIGHT BY CHARTER TO AGREE TO
10:36:21AM SETTLEMENTS BUT ONLY.
10:36:22AM CAN YOU TELL ME IN THE CHARTER WHERE IT GIVES -- OTHER THAN
10:36:26AM THE OPINION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY TWO TIMES AGO.
10:36:29AM WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS THE RIGHT TO
10:36:32AM AGREE TO PAY SETTLEMENTS WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
10:36:37AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I THINK IF YOU GO BACK TO 5.1, TAKE THE
10:36:42AM MANAGEMENT, CHARGE AND CONTROL OF ALL THE LEGAL BUSINESS OF
10:36:45AM THE CITY.
10:36:45AM IT'S -- IT IS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE -- IT WOULD BE VIRTUALLY
10:36:51AM IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO BRING EVERY SETTLEMENT TO THIS COUNCIL.
10:36:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: DOESN'T SAY EXPLICITLY THAT THE CITY
10:36:59AM ATTORNEY CAN PAY.
10:37:00AM THE CITY ATTORNEY MAY AGREE IN A SETTLEMENT BY THE CHARTER.
10:37:03AM THERE IS SOME GRAY AREA THERE.
10:37:06AM BUT DOES NOT SAY EXPLICITLY IF THE NEXT PAGE SAYS THAT CITY
10:37:10AM COUNCIL -- ONLY CITY COUNCIL HAS THE RIGHT TO PAY FROM -- TO
10:37:13AM AGREE TO BUDGET AMOUNT, ISN'T THAT CORRECT?
10:37:17AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ANY SETTLEMENT THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
10:37:20AM OFFICE REACHES WILL ULTIMATELY COME TO COUNCIL FOR ANY
10:37:23AM APPROPRIATE --
10:37:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE ANNOUNCED BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR SIX
10:37:31AM FIGURES.
10:37:31AM IS THAT COMING?
10:37:33AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I BELIEVE IT WAS ALREADY APPROPRIATED BUT I
10:37:35AM DON'T KNOW.
10:37:35AM I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK.
10:37:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: LET ME SEE -- THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR FOR
10:37:43AM GIVING ME THIS.
10:37:44AM LAST QUESTION, THE CITY ATTORNEY TWO ATTORNEYS AGO WROTE A
10:37:48AM PAPER THAT ALLEGEDLY SAID THE CITY ATTORNEY HAD THE ABILITY
10:37:51AM TO PAY SETTLEMENTS WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
10:37:54AM I HAVE NOT SEEN THE DOCUMENT, BUT I DISAGREE, AND THE
10:37:59AM ATTORNEYS I SHOWED IT DISAGREED WITH IT BASED ON THE
10:38:03AM CHARTER.
10:38:03AM IF YOU FIND OTHER OPINIONS OF YOUR PREDECESSORS, WILL YOU BE
10:38:06AM OPEN TO DEFINING THE CHARTER IN THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN RATHER
10:38:09AM THAN BY THEIR PRECEDENCE OR OPINIONS?
10:38:13AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I AM AWARE OF THE OPINION YOU ARE TALKING
10:38:15AM ABOUT AND IT WAS BASED ON CHARTER LANGUAGE.
10:38:18AM REMEMBER, IT IS NOT THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN PAY
10:38:21AM SETTLEMENTS.
10:38:22AM LIKE THEY CAN APPROVE IT.
10:38:23AM ULTIMATELY ANY APPROPRIATION HAS TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL IN
10:38:28AM ONE FORM OR THE OTHER.
10:38:29AM AND AS I STARTED TO SAY, WE SETTLE HUNDREDS OF CASES.
10:38:34AM WE HAVE A SETTLEMENT COMMITTEE WITHIN OUR OFFICE THAT WORKS
10:38:38AM WITH OUR LITIGATORS, RISK MANAGEMENT.
10:38:42AM WE EVALUATE EVERY CASE.
10:38:45AM WE AGREE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE SETTLEMENT SHOULD BE.
10:38:48AM WE HAVE TO GIVE OUR ATTORNEYS, FOR INSTANCE, AUTHORITY TO GO
10:38:51AM TO MEDIATION WITH A CERTAIN NUMBER IN MIND AND COME BACK.
10:38:55AM AND THEN, YOU KNOW, APPROVE THE ULTIMATE SETTLEMENT AGREED
10:39:00AM TO.
10:39:00AM IT WILL FRANKLY BRING YOUR MEETINGS -- ADD A LOT MORE
10:39:05AM MEETINGS TO YOUR CALENDAR.
10:39:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD BE THE CITY COUNCIL COULD GIVE
10:39:12AM AUTHORITY TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO APPROVE IT TO A CERTAIN
10:39:15AM LEVEL.
10:39:15AM I WILL JUST END.
10:39:17AM SORRY TO HAVE TO PUT YOU THROUGH THIS.
10:39:20AM NOT BASED ON HOW I FEEL ABOUT YOU.
10:39:22AM WE ALWAYS LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU.
10:39:24AM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU BASED ON THE
10:39:27AM EXPERIENCE OF THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS.
10:39:30AM I HAD TO ASK YOU.
10:39:31AM I APOLOGIZE TO CLAY AND OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS WHO MAY BE
10:39:34AM WATCHING.
10:39:35AM I LOOK FORWARD TO WORK WITH YOU AND I HOPE YOU WILL HELP
10:39:38AM CORRECT THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST.
10:39:40AM IN CASE WE SEE THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST, I WILL GO BACK AND
10:39:43AM PLAY THIS VIDEO.
10:39:43AM THANK YOU.
10:39:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:39:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND THANK YOU,
10:39:49AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR THE QUESTIONS.
10:39:51AM I KNOW YOU FAIRLY WELL.
10:39:53AM I KNOW YOUR REPUTATION.
10:39:54AM IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
10:39:57AM YOU ARE A PERSON OF GOOD MORAL CHARACTER OF SERVICE TO THIS
10:40:01AM COMMUNITY IN MANY CAPACITIES HERE SERVING AS ASSISTANT CITY
10:40:05AM ATTORNEY OR ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION OR YOUR
10:40:08AM HUSBAND'S REPUTATION AND HIS SERVICE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL,
10:40:13AM WORKING IN WASHINGTON AND WORKING HERE.
10:40:15AM YOU AND I MET THE OTHER DAY.
10:40:17AM WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION AS WE ALWAYS HAD.
10:40:19AM I, MYSELF, BEING HERE SINCE 2015 HAVE WORKED UNDER SEVERAL
10:40:24AM DIFFERENT -- OR WORKED WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT CITY ATTORNEYS
10:40:28AM AND IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I HAD GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH
10:40:32AM EVERYONE.
10:40:32AM EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT.
10:40:33AM I NEVER HAD AN ISSUE.
10:40:36AM ALWAYS HAD AN OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION REGARDLESS OF WHO
10:40:40AM IT WAS.
10:40:40AM YOU SAID SOMETHING THE OTHER DAY WHEN WE MET.
10:40:42AM AND IT WAS ABOUT A RESET OR A HARD RESET AND STARTING FRESH.
10:40:45AM COINCIDENTALLY THE LAST TIME MY WIFE AND I WERE WATCHING THE
10:40:50AM "TWILIGHT ZONE" -- SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE WE LIVE IN THE
10:40:55AM TWILIGHT ZONE AND AN EPISODE CALLED "WALKING DISTANCE."
10:41:00AM IN THE END, YOU HAVE TO START WALKING FORWARD.
10:41:05AM WE ARE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION ON CITY COUNCIL OF LOOKING
10:41:08AM FORWARD.
10:41:08AM YOU TALK OF A HARD RESET.
10:41:10AM A COUPLE OF WEEKS LOOK, I TALKED ABOUT LET'S WORK TOGETHER
10:41:13AM AND MOVE FORWARD.
10:41:14AM YOU KNOW, LET'S HAVE SOME PEACE HERE.
10:41:16AM BECAUSE WE ALL HAD FOR MANY DIFFERENT ISSUES AND DIFFERENT
10:41:20AM REASONS THE VERY INTERESTING LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS.
10:41:23AM AGAIN, I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
10:41:25AM I KNOW YOUR WORK ETHIC.
10:41:27AM I KNOW YOUR DEDICATION TO THIS CITY.
10:41:29AM AND WE SHOULD HAVE THAT HARD RESET.
10:41:31AM YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS.
10:41:33AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON ASKED VERY DIFFICULT, VERY CLEAR, VERY
10:41:37AM POINTED QUESTIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE ASKED.
10:41:39AM AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I HAVE FULL FAITH IN YOU THAT YOU
10:41:42AM WILL HONOR YOUR OATH AND THIS CITY CHARTER AND THAT WE WILL
10:41:45AM WORK TOGETHER WELL MOVING FORWARD.
10:41:48AM SO YOU WILL HAVE MY SUPPORT.
10:41:50AM AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO HEAR WHAT OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS
10:41:53AM HAVE TO SAY.
10:41:54AM THANK YOU.
10:41:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:41:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:41:57AM I WILL BE GLADLY VOTING FOR YOU.
10:41:59AM I HAVE KNOWN YOU FOR SOME TIME.
10:42:01AM AND WHATNOT.
10:42:03AM I THINK -- WE ARE FORTUNATE -- WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE
10:42:07AM THAT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE GOTTEN ATTORNEYS FROM
10:42:10AM PLACES LIKE BUCHANAN INGERSOLL, TRENDHAM, HILL, WARD
10:42:17AM HENDERSON, MacFARLANE FERGUSON.
10:42:20AM MISS SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ USED TO BE -- FOWLER WHITE.
10:42:24AM YOU USED TO BE A FOWLER WHITE AS WELL.
10:42:26AM WE ARE FORTUNATE IN THAT REGARD.
10:42:28AM YOUR REPUTATION PROCEEDS YOU.
10:42:31AM YOU ARE A WOMAN OF OUTSTANDING CHARACTER, DECENCY AND
10:42:35AM PROFESSIONALISM.
10:42:36AM AS I SAY THAT AS A COLLEAGUE IN THE FLORIDA BAR.
10:42:39AM LICENSED FOR 19 YEARS.
10:42:40AM TIME GOES BY FAST WHEN YOU DO IT IN.1 INCREMENTS.
10:42:45AM UP KNOW -- LAUGHS THERE FROM THE LAWYERS.
10:42:47AM I KNOW THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO A FABULOUS JOB.
10:42:50AM YOU ARE A VERY GOOD PERSON WITH A VERY GOOD HEART AND
10:42:54AM WHATNOT.
10:42:54AM AND SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID I THINK IS
10:42:57AM VERY IMPORTANT WHICH IS ON THE RESET ISSUE WHICH IS -- I
10:43:00AM DEFINE IT AS DEESCALATION.
10:43:02AM I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.
10:43:04AM THAT IS ON ALL OF US, MYSELF INCLUDED.
10:43:07AM ALL OF US.
10:43:09AM I THINK THAT ALL OF US HERE HAVE MADE AN EFFORT TO LOOK AT
10:43:12AM THE THINGS THOSE TIES THAT BIND DESPITE OUR DIFFERENCES.
10:43:20AM I SAY THAT ALL THE TIME AND CERTAINLY TRUE FOR THE CITY OF
10:43:23AM TAMPA AND I HAVE DONE IT AND WE ALL HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON.
10:43:26AM IF WE AGREE OR DISAGREE ON ONE THING, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
10:43:29AM TEN THINGS WE AGREE ON AND TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS.
10:43:32AM AND I HOPE THAT WE ALL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
10:43:34AM BECAUSE THAT IS SO IMPORTANT.
10:43:35AM BECAUSE WE DIDN'T RUN FOR OFFICE FOR CAUSTIC MEASURES.
10:43:40AM I KNOW I DIDN'T, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE UPPER HERE
10:43:44AM DID AND WHATNOT.
10:43:45AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SUPPORTING YOU AND WORKING WITH YOU.
10:43:48AM LIKE I SAID, I AM A BIG FAN OF YOURS AND EVERYBODY IS
10:43:51AM TALKING OF YOUR HUSBAND.
10:43:52AM I I WILL SAY IT.
10:43:53AM HE WALKS ON WATER.
10:43:55AM IF YOU THROW HIM ON THE WATER IF HE IS OUT ON A BOAT, HE
10:43:59AM WILL NOT SINK PAUSE HE WALKS ON WATER.
10:44:01AM I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING YOU.
10:44:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:44:04AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:44:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS ZELMAN, WE HAD A CONVERSATION, CANDID.
10:44:09AM I TOLD YOU I WASN'T HAPPY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
10:44:12AM CLEAR ON THAT.
10:44:14AM I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE DONE WITH SOME OF THE
10:44:17AM COUNCILMEMBERS AND SOME THINGS IN THE CITY WAS CRIMINAL.
10:44:20AM DOWNRIGHT CRIMINAL.
10:44:21AM WE TALKED ABOUT THE POLITICS.
10:44:23AM I THINK THAT OFFICE HAS BEEN INFLUENCED AND INFECTED WITH
10:44:28AM POLITICS.
10:44:28AM WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
10:44:29AM THAT IS WHAT -- THAT IS NOT WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
10:44:33AM IS MADE FOR.
10:44:34AM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS TO FULFILL THE RIGHTS OF EVERY
10:44:38AM EMPLOYEE, THE OFFICES THEY HOLD, THE DEPARTMENTS.
10:44:48AM LIKE I TOLD NEW THAT MEETING, YOU CAN'T SERVE TWO MASTERS.
10:44:51AM AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM, GENTLEMEN.
10:44:53AM YOU LOOK AT THIS CHARTER, YOU GOT SEVERAL DIFFERENT PEOPLE
10:44:56AM THAT CITY ATTORNEY IS SUPPOSED TO UPHOLD.
10:44:59AM BUT THE MAIN TWO IS THIS COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR.
10:45:03AM MISS HURTAK, IF I PUT YOU UP FOR THE PROMOTION TO APPOINT
10:45:08AM YOU.
10:45:11AM AND THE OTHER BODY SAYS OKAY, YOU BELONG TO ME.
10:45:15AM I AM YOUR MASTER.
10:45:20AM I AM YOUR MASTER.
10:45:22AM THAT IS THE WAY I FEEL.
10:45:23AM AND MOST PEOPLE KNOW I AM TELLING THE TRUTH.
10:45:25AM HIS OTHER CITY ATTORNEYS THAT WORK FOR THE CITY THAT SAY THE
10:45:29AM SAME THING.
10:45:30AM WE WORK FOR THE MAYOR.
10:45:31AM MR. CARLSON BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE CHARTER AND THE WAY MIAMI
10:45:35AM IS GOING TO DO SOME THINGS.
10:45:36AM AND I AM GOING TO LOOK AT THAT DOWN THE ROAD.
10:45:39AM I AM VERY HURT.
10:45:40AM I THINK THAT, AGAIN, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PLAYED
10:45:44AM POLITICS ON A LOT OF ISSUES.
10:45:46AM IT IS NOT FAIR.
10:45:47AM IT IS NOT RIGHT.
10:45:48AM NO MATTER HOW THE VOTE -- BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WILL GET
10:45:50AM CONFIRMED TODAY.
10:45:51AM I HOPE YOU DON'T PLAY POLITICS.
10:45:54AM I HOPE YOU DO YOUR JOB AND BE ABLE TO TELL THE MAYOR AND MR.
10:45:58AM BENNETT WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG.
10:46:00AM THAT IS WHAT THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA WANT.
10:46:03AM SOMEONE WHO CAN STAND US AND TELL US WHEN WE ARE RIGHT AND
10:46:07AM WHEN WE ARE WRONG.
10:46:07AM NOT TO PLAY POLITICS.
10:46:09AM I HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON LEGALLY.
10:46:17AM I THINK YOU ARE A NICE WOMAN.
10:46:19AM I THINK YOU PROBABLY DO HAVE A GREAT NEITHER MAYBE RESET --
10:46:24AM WHATEVER THAT MAY MEAN TO SOME COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:46:26AM AND IN A SENSE, I SUPPORT YOU, BUT IN ANOTHER -- I AM
10:46:31AM NERVOUS AND AFRAID.
10:46:32AM I THINK I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE THAT WAY.
10:46:35AM BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
10:46:38AM EVERYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED.
10:46:41AM YOU CAN LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTS.
10:46:43AM IT IS CLEAR.
10:46:44AM BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
10:46:45AM I SERVE A GOOD AWESOME GOD.
10:46:47AM I WILL NOT BE VOTING TODAY ON THIS ISSUE.
10:46:51AM I WILL NOT.
10:46:53AM I WILL ABSTAIN FROM VOTING.
10:46:55AM NOT THAT I DON'T LIKE YOU.
10:46:56AM NOT THAT -- I THINK -- FOR ME, THE INSTITUTION, I THINK, HAS
10:47:01AM BEEN COMPROMISED.
10:47:03AM AND YOU ARE A PART OF THAT OTHER INSTITUTION.
10:47:06AM SO WHATEVER HAPPENS TODAY GOING FORWARD, I AM STILL GOING TO
10:47:09AM WORK WITH YOU.
10:47:10AM I GIVE MY COMMITMENT TO YOU.
10:47:12AM I JUST WANT TO BE TREATED FAIRLY.
10:47:14AM I WANT OTHER EMPLOYEES TO BE TREATED FAIRLY.
10:47:17AM AND I WANT THE STRONG COLD ANSWERS THAT ARE RIGHT, NOT JUST
10:47:21AM TO SWAY ONE SIDE VERSUS THE OTHER WHATEVER THEY MAY BE, THEY
10:47:26AM MAY BE.
10:47:26AM GENTLEMEN, I WILL ABSTAIN FROM VOTING TODAY.
10:47:29AM MR. MORRIS, YOU CAN GET THOSE FORMS FOR ME, BUT I WILL
10:47:32AM ABSTAIN FROM VOTING ON THIS ISSUE TODAY.
10:47:34AM I WISH YOU WELL.
10:47:35AM AND GREAT SUCCESS TO YOU.
10:47:39AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THANK YOU.
10:47:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:47:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START.
10:47:44AM I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH YOU MANY YEARS AGO WHEN
10:47:47AM YOU WORKED UNDER CITY ATTORNEY JANE.
10:47:54AM YOU ARE OUTSTANDING THEN.
10:47:55AM YOU ARE OUTSTANDING NOW.
10:47:57AM I AM NOT ASKING FOR YOU TO DO ANYTHING FOR ME.
10:47:59AM IF I COMMIT A CRIME, I EXPECT TO GO TO JAIL.
10:48:02AM MY FATHER GAVE ME ONE OF THE MOST LESSONS HE EVER GAVE ME
10:48:07AM WHEN I WAS ABOUT 16-YEAR-OLD PLAYING BASEBALL.
10:48:10AM I THOUGHT I WAS AS HOTSHOT.
10:48:11AM HE PUT A DIME IN MY HAND.
10:48:13AM I SAID WHAT IS THE DIME FOR?
10:48:14AM HE TOLD ME THIS, IF YOU GET IN TROUBLE, CALL SOMEBODY ELSE.
10:48:18AM I NEVER FORGOT THAT.
10:48:20AM IF I GET IN TROUBLE, IT'S ON ME.
10:48:23AM WHEN WE WERE ASKED -- I AM NOT HERE TO GO OVER THIS PART OF
10:48:29AM THE CHARTER.
10:48:31AM YOU SEE, THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN INTERPRET THE CHARTER IS NOT
10:48:35AM I.
10:48:35AM NOT EVEN YOU.
10:48:36AM IT IS A JUDGE.
10:48:37AM OR THE JURY.
10:48:39AM IF I DO SOMETHING WRONG, I AM GOING TO END UP THERE.
10:48:44AM ON MY FATHER'S DIME.
10:48:49AM HOWEVER, WE WERE ASKED TO TURN IN OUR PHONES.
10:48:51AM THE FIRST ONE THAT WENT WAS ME.
10:48:53AM HANDED THEM IN.
10:48:56AM FORGOT -- SAID YOU GOT TWO PHONES.
10:49:00AM I SAID, YEAH.
10:49:01AM LET ME TELL YOU WHY.
10:49:02AM WHEN I PUT ONE DOWN AND PUT SOMETHING ON IT I CAN'T FIND IT,
10:49:06AM THAT PHONE FINDS THE OTHER PHONE.
10:49:08AM AND I FOUND MY PHONE.
10:49:09AM AND THE REASON I DID THAT -- I SAID EARLIER WAS A TIGHTWAD
10:49:14AM AND CERTAIN THINGS.
10:49:15AM PAYING $132 A MONTH FOR A CELL PHONE.
10:49:18AM I GOT WITH THE FAMILY AND I BOUGHT -- THEY GAVE ME FOUR
10:49:22AM PHONES FOR $100 FOR THE SAME SERVICE.
10:49:24AM SO I SAVED $32.
10:49:27AM MY SISTER -- SAID PAYING HER PHONE.
10:49:29AM I SAID I AM SAVING $32.
10:49:31AM LET ME GIVE YOU A CELL PHONE.
10:49:34AM THAT'S HOW I GOT FOUR PHONES.
10:49:35AM THAT IS HOW THE STORY IS KNOWN.
10:49:38AM WHEN I TURNED IN THE PHONES, DIDN'T EVEN ASK, AM I CLEAN.
10:49:42AM ONE THING I ALSO TAUGHT MYSELF, BET ON THAT DIME.
10:49:48AM WHEN YOU HAVE TEMPTATION, YOU CAN FIX A PROBLEM, YOU WILL
10:49:59AM NEVER FIX A PROBLEM THAT HAVEN'T BEEN UNDERSTOOD AND NEVER
10:50:02AM BEEN A PROBLEM.
10:50:03AM LET ME EXPLAIN THAT.
10:50:04AM ON THIS DAIS, I HAVE BEEN HERE 29 YEARS.
10:50:06AM ONLY ONE TIME IN MY LIFE DID I BRING THE CELL PHONE INTO
10:50:10AM THIS DAIS.
10:50:11AM YOU KNOW HOW I DID THAT, BY HABIT, WHEN I SEE MARY, I HAND
10:50:15AM MY PHONE TO HER EVERY THURSDAY.
10:50:17AM SHE WASN'T THERE THAT DAY.
10:50:19AM AND I BROUGHT -- I WAS SITTING RIGHT WITH MR. CITRO AND THE
10:50:24AM DAMN THING ARE RANG.
10:50:28AM I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO HIDE.
10:50:29AM I WAS NERVOUS.
10:50:31AM I HAD CHILLS.
10:50:32AM YOU CAN NEVER FIX A PERCEPTION OF A PROBLEM.
10:50:34AM YOU CAN FIX A PROBLEM, BUT NEVER A PERCEPTION OF A PROBLEM.
10:50:38AM YOU WILL NEVER CATCH ME WITH A CELL PHONE ON THIS DAIS.
10:50:41AM YOU KNOW WHY?
10:50:43AM I CAN'T GET ACCUSED OF ANYTHING IF I DON'T HAVE ONE.
10:50:46AM AND THAT IS HOW I GO THROUGH LIFE.
10:50:49AM SOMETIMES I MAKE AN ERROR.
10:50:52AM THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ERROR AND A MISTAKE.
10:50:55AM THAT IS FOR ANOTHER DAY.
10:50:56AM SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS, YOU DO YOUR JOB TO THE BEST OF YOUR
10:51:00AM ABILITY.
10:51:00AM I DON'T CARE IF YOU INSULTLY OR IF I -- IF YOU TELL ME I DID
10:51:05AM SOMETHING WRONG AND YOU ADVISE ME AND I TELL YOU NO, YOU
10:51:08AM HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY THE HELL WITH YOU.
10:51:10AM BECAUSE I SAID NO TO YOU.
10:51:12AM YOU ARE THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY AND YOU ARE THE MAYOR'S
10:51:17AM ATTORNEY.
10:51:17AM AND I BELIEVE IN STRAIGHT -- I AM NOT AGAINST ANYONE OR FOR
10:51:22AM ANYONE.
10:51:22AM I AM TELLING YOU WHAT CHARLIE MIRANDA WAS SHOT LIVING IN THE
10:51:25AM BEAUTIFUL CONDOMINIUM OF TAMPA.
10:51:28AM IT WAS ACTUALLY THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
10:51:30AM I CALL IT THE CONDOS OF TAMPA SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS, A HELL
10:51:35AM OF A LIFE, IF YOU JUST WALK DOWN THE NARROW STREETS AND SAY
10:51:39AM HI TO EVERYBODY.
10:51:40AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:51:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I, FIRST OF ALL, WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES
10:51:47AM FOR BRINGING THE QUESTIONS AND QUITE HONESTLY AIRING THE
10:51:55AM LAUNDRY THAT WE ALL FEEL ABOUT THE OFFICE AND NOT YOU, THE
10:52:00AM PERSON.
10:52:00AM THE OFFICE IS SOMETHING THAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO LOOK AT I
10:52:09AM APPRECIATE COUNCIL CARLSON'S QUESTIONS AND COUNCILMAN GUDES'
10:52:13AM COMMENTS AND I WILL DISAGREE WITH OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS AND
10:52:16AM SAY THAT THERE MAY BE -- A ERA, WE COULD NOT FORGET OUR
10:52:24AM PAST.
10:52:24AM THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR.
10:52:25AM WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
10:52:27AM HOW THIS COUNCIL FEELS ABOUT THAT.
10:52:29AM AND I HAVE -- I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT YOU WILL DO THAT.
10:52:39AM AS SEVERAL OTHER MEMBERS SAID, WE SIT ON THE CHARTER REVIEW
10:52:43AM COMMISSION TOGETHER.
10:52:43AM I GOT TO KNOW YOU THERE.
10:52:44AM I HAVE WORKED WITH YOU SINCE JOINING COUNCIL SEVERAL MONTHS
10:52:48AM AGO.
10:52:49AM AND I DO FEEL LIKE I CAN COME AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT
10:52:53AM DIFFERENT MATTERS AROUND I DO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
10:52:55AM AND YOUR REPUTATION DOES PROCEED YOU.
10:52:59AM BUT WE NEED NEED TO ADDRESS THESE THINGS AND THINK ABOUT
10:53:06AM THEM AS YOU GO FORWARD.
10:53:07AM AND I REALLY -- WHILE I -- I ABSOLUTELY AM SUPPORTING YOU
10:53:10AM TODAY, I DO WHEN YOU TAKE THAT OFFICE, WE HAVE TO THINK OF
10:53:17AM THE OFFICE THAT WE HOLD AND HOW WE ACTUALLY -- HOW WE
10:53:24AM REPRESENT THAT OFFICE.
10:53:25AM SO TODAY WE ARE LOOKING AT A NEW CHAPTER OF THAT OFFICE.
10:53:29AM BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU AND I KNOW THAT YOU WILL THINK ABOUT THE
10:53:34AM PAST AND WHAT THE OFFICE HAVE REPRESENTED IN THE PAST AND
10:53:38AM HOW IT WILL BE DIFFERENT GOING FORWARD.
10:53:40AM IS ANYBODY FINISHED?
10:53:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS ZELMAN, THIS COUNCIL, THIS CITY HAS
10:53:56AM FACED SITUATIONS THAT NO OTHER COUNCIL AND NO OTHER CITY HAS
10:54:00AM FACED IN THE PAST.
10:54:01AM WE HAVE A PANDEMIC AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANY MAJOR, ANY
10:54:08AM COUNCIL, OR ANY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO WILL CALL SOMEBODY
10:54:13AM AND SAY, HEY, HOW IT YOU HANDLE YOUR PANDEMIC BACK IN 1921.
10:54:18AM WE THEN HAD PEACEFUL PROTESTING IN THE STREETS.
10:54:20AM AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY MAYOR OR COUNCIL OR LEGAL STAFF
10:54:28AM TO HOW DID YOU HANDLE THAT.
10:54:31AM WHEN THEY WERE FACED WITH A RECESSION.
10:54:33AM AND MY OPINION THAT THIS CITY HAS COME OUT THE OTHER END
10:54:38AM STRONGER AND BETTER BECAUSE OF IT.
10:54:40AM MORE SO THAN ANY OTHER CITY IN THIS COUNTRY.
10:54:46AM I AM VERY PROUD OF THIS COUNCIL.
10:54:49AM I AM VERY PROUD TO HAVE WORKED WITH THEM.
10:54:53AM I AM VERY PROUD TO BE WORK WITH THE MAYOR.
10:54:55AM BUT THERE WAS ADVICE GIVEN BY OUR CITY LEGAL TEAM THAT, IN
10:55:01AM MY OPINION, WAS GREAT ADVICE.
10:55:05AM I CONGRATULATE YOU ON BEING HANDED THE BATON WE ARE STILL
10:55:18AM GOING TO HAVE HURDLES THAT WE COST.
10:55:22AM AND CONFIDENCE IN PART OF OUR LEGAL TEAM THAT WERE TOP FIVE
10:55:29AM IN THE 100 MUNICIPALS ATTORNEYS OF LAW IN THE STATE OF
10:55:34AM FLORIDA.
10:55:34AM WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM.
10:55:36AM WE HAVE A GREAT FAMILY.
10:55:37AM MISS ZELMAN, I WELCOME YOU.
10:55:40AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
10:55:42AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THIS
10:55:47AM IS YOUR COMMITTEE.
10:55:47AM WOULD YOU LIKE --
10:55:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE ITEM NUMBER 36
10:55:51AM WITH GREAT HONOR.
10:55:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA OF THE
10:55:56AM FINANCE COMMITTEE TO MOVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 36, F 22-76934,
10:56:03AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:56:05AM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
10:56:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:56:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:56:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:56:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:56:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: AS I SAID I AM VOTING YES WITH THE FAITH
10:56:17AM THAT YOU FOLLOW CHARTER AND DEFEND CITY COUNCIL.
10:56:20AM THANK YOU.
10:56:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:56:23AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:56:27AM CONGRATULATIONS.
10:56:27AM [APPLAUSE]
10:56:42AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: CAN I MAKE A FEW SHORT REMARKS.
10:56:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GET BACK TO WORK.
10:56:47AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:: WE ALL DO.
10:56:48AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTE TODAY.
10:56:50AM I APPRECIATE YOUR TRUST IN ME.
10:56:52AM AND I WILL WORK TO CONTINUE TO EARN IT.
10:56:54AM I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR, OF COURSE, FOR APPOINTING ME AND
10:56:59AM THANK GINA GRIMES FOR BRINGING ME BACK TO THE CITY IN 2019,
10:57:04AM ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO TODAY.
10:57:05AM AND FOR PUTTING IN PLACE A INCREDIBLY DIVERSE -- ONE OF HER
10:57:11AM GOALS -- INCREDIBLE LEGAL STAFF MANY OF WHOM CAME DOWN HERE
10:57:15AM TO SUPPORT ME WHICH I APPRECIATE AS WELL.
10:57:18AM THEY ARE REALLY INCREDIBLE EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T GET THE BEST
10:57:21AM LAWYERS WHATEVER.
10:57:21AM THEY ARE ALL GOOD.
10:57:23AM THEY ALL WORK REALLY HARD FOR THE CITY AND REALLY HARD FOR
10:57:27AM THE CITY COUNCIL.
10:57:28AM IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, OUR OFFICE HAS IMPLEMENTED POLICIES
10:57:32AM AND PROCESSES THAT HAVE MADE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT ONE THAT
10:57:37AM OPERATES WITH PROFESSIONALISM, A STRONG WORK ETHIC AND ONE
10:57:41AM THAT ALWAYS STRIVE TO PRODUCE QUALITY WORK FOR ALL OF YOU.
10:57:45AM I WANT TO BUILD ON THAT FOUNDATION THAT WAS LAID SO WE CAN
10:57:49AM CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TOWARD THAT COMMON GOAL OF SERVING
10:57:52AM THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:57:54AM AS I SAID, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO OUR OFFICE, TO
10:57:58AM ME, TO ANYONE WITH QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS,
10:58:01AM SUGGESTIONS, OPEN DOOR, OPEN AIR POLICY.
10:58:04AM I THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
10:58:10AM MOVING FORWARD TOGETHER WITH ALL OF YOU.
10:58:12AM THANK YOU.
10:58:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:58:14AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
10:58:33AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:58:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK IN MR. BENNETT.
10:58:37AM I WANT TO ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION AND IN LINE WITH SOME OF
10:58:40AM THE THINGS THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
10:58:41AM IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY WEEK MORE AND MORE SUBSTANTIVE EVIDENCE
10:58:45AM IS SURFACING THAT THE MAYOR'S STAFF HAS COLLABORATED TO
10:58:50AM ATTACK CITY COUNCILMEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY.
10:58:55AM AND NOW WE HAVE -- THE MAYOR'S PEOPLE LIKE TO HAVE IT
10:58:59AM CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
10:59:00AM WE HAVE WRITTEN EVIDENCE OF THIS.
10:59:03AM AS THIS EVIDENCE SURFACE, I ASKED SEVERAL TIMES FOR THE
10:59:07AM MAYOR TO PUBLICLY CALL FOR THE ATTACKS TO STOP.
10:59:10AM SHE SHOULD FRANKLY CHANGE STAFF OR POLL SEEING.
10:59:13AM UP ASK FOR THE MAYOR TO PUBLICLY HALT.
10:59:18AM MY COLLEAGUES OF PEACE AND COLLABORATIVE ENVIRONMENT.
10:59:21AM I STARTED THAT AND TRIED TO DO THAT FOR YOU.
10:59:25AM AS LONG AS CITY STAFF MEMBERS ARE COLLUDING TO ATTACK US AND
10:59:29AM SET UP OTHER CITY COUNCILMEMBERS TO ATTACK EACH OTHER, WE
10:59:33AM NEVER WILL MOVE THIS CITY FORWARD.
10:59:35AM ASK YOU -- PLEASE NOT YOU, BUT ASK THE MAYOR TO PUBLICLY
10:59:39AM DENOUNCE THESE ACTIVITIES AND APOLOGIZE FOR THEM SO WE CAN
10:59:42AM MOVE THIS CITY FORWARD.
10:59:43AM THANK YOU.
10:59:43AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU.
10:59:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL, WE HAVE A 12:00 HARD STOP TIME.
10:59:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE AUDIT FOR TWO AND A HALF HOURS
11:00:04AM SITTING DOWN AND THEY ARE ANXIOUS -- LET'S GO TO THEM FIRST,
11:00:07AM IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:00:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF WE CAN.
11:00:10AM THERE IS AN AGENDA ITEM THAT HAS BEEN ASKED TO MOVE FORWARD.
11:00:13AM I BELIEVE IT IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 51.
11:00:17AM SO IF I CAN HAVE SOMEONE OPEN THE 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:00:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION.
11:00:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
11:00:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:00:31AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:00:33AM IF YOU INDULGE US, STAFF, TO HEAR THIS AGENDA ITEM.
11:00:37AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 51.
11:00:40AM FILE NUMBER REZ 22-40.
11:00:52AM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: GOOD MORNING, ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT
11:00:56AM COORDINATION.
11:00:56AM AGENDA ITEM 51, CASE 22-40 IS PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
11:01:02AM AND ADOPTION 110 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
11:01:05AM PROPOSED REZONING FROM OP, OFFICE PROFESSIONAL TO PD,
11:01:12AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MULTIFAMILY --
11:01:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY.
11:01:16AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: BEFORE WE GO MUCH FURTHER.
11:01:18AM I DON'T THINK WE TOOK AN OATH.
11:01:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DO APOLOGIZE.
11:01:22AM ANYONE WHO WILL BE GIVING EVIDENCE AT THIS TIME ANYONE WHO
11:01:28AM WILL BE GIVING EVIDENCE AT THIS TIME, WILL YOU PLEASE RISE
11:01:32AM TO BE SWORN IN.
11:01:33AM THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY.
11:01:34AM [SWEARING IN]
11:01:40AM >> I DO.
11:01:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE PROCEED.
11:01:46AM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:01:47AM ZAIN HUSSEIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:01:49AM CASE REZ 22-40.
11:01:53AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT 110 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
11:01:58AM PROPOSED REZONING FROM OP, OFFICE PROFESSIONAL TO PD,
11:02:03AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, STRIP
11:02:06AM SHOPPING CENTER, RETAIL, BANK AND DRIVE IN.
11:02:09AM SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN DROPPED OFF TO THE CITY'S CLERK OFFICE.
11:02:13AM I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
11:02:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:02:19AM SEEING NONE.
11:02:20AM PLEASE PROCEED.
11:02:27AM >> TRUETT GARDNER, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, PICK OFF WHERE WE
11:02:35AM LEFT OFF.
11:02:36AM GREG MINDER WILL BE PROVIDING TESTIMONY.
11:02:40AM ADDIE CLARK A CIVIL ENGINEER WITH OUR LAW FIRM AND BRAD
11:02:44AM CALDWELL WITH DEVELOPMENT GROUP.
11:02:46AM WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL, SPECIFICALLY YOU MR. MIRANDA
11:02:50AM TO ALLOW FOR THIS TO BE CONTINUED FOR ONE WEEK.
11:02:52AM AND IF YOU RECALL, AFTER REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE UNIVERSITY
11:02:56AM OF TAMPA, SCOTT GOSEN AND IN OUR SECOND READING LAST
11:03:01AM THURSDAY WE, I AGREE, HAD TO CONTINUE THIS MATTER FOR TWO
11:03:04AM REASONS.
11:03:04AM FIRST, IS TO MEET WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AFTER
11:03:07AM FLORIDA GOSEN STATED WE HAD NOT COMMUNICATED WITH HIM AND
11:03:11AM THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED NOTICE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
11:03:14AM SECOND, UT EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT THE DEVELOPER IS NOT
11:03:20AM PROVIDING ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THIS PROJECT.
11:03:21AM I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS BOTH OF THOSE TOPICS.
11:03:25AM AS TO THE ISSUE OF NOTICE, WE HAVE REVIEWED OUR FILES AND
11:03:30AM CORRESPONDENCE, PARTICULARLY FOR DUE PROCESS PURPOSES.
11:03:33AM I WANT TO DISPEL ANY NOTION THAT NOTICE WAS NOT CORRECT, AND
11:03:37AM FURTHER THAT UT WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS PROJECT.
11:03:40AM TO THAT END, THIS IS AN E-MAIL FROM NOVEMBER 23 FROM DR.
11:03:51AM VAUGHN, PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA TO GREG MINDER
11:03:57AM STATING -- YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED.
11:03:59AM I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MAY BE WORK ON A SECOND PROJECT
11:04:03AM NEAR UT WHICH IS THIS DEVELOPMENT HERE.
11:04:04AM SECOND, AND AS A COURTESY TO THE UNIVERSITY, WE FILED OUR
11:04:10AM REZONING ON JANUARY 11.
11:04:12AM AND GREG MINDER SENT AN E-MAIL TO DR. VAUGHN AND JUST GOING
11:04:18AM BACK ONE OTHER SENTENCE IN THIS NOVEMBER 23 E-MAIL, THE
11:04:23AM UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT MADE MR. MENDER AWARE.
11:04:26AM AND THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, PLEASE NOTE THAT JENNIFER SKYA
11:04:31AM REMAIN A POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE HENRY RELATIONSHIP OR ANY
11:04:34AM REQUEST FOR DATA OR CONVERSATIONS OF FUTURE OFF-CAMPUS
11:04:39AM PROJECTS.
11:04:39AM SO JANUARY 11, WE FILED OUR REZONING.
11:04:44AM MR. MENDER SENDS AN E-MAIL AS A COURTESY TO DR. VAUGHN AND
11:04:49AM JENNIFER SKIA MAKING THEM KNOW -- YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE
11:04:53AM FIRST LINE, WE MADE OUR REZONING FILING TODAY.
11:04:56AM FAST FORWARD -- AND THIS IS ON THE ISSUE OF NOTICE.
11:05:00AM THIS IS OUR AFFIDAVIT OF COMPLIANCE WITH NOTICE.
11:05:07AM AND YOU WILL NOTICE IN THE CERTIFICATE OF MAILING SECTION
11:05:16AM HIGHLIGHTED IS THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, DATE OF CERTIFICATE
11:05:21AM OF MAIL IN WAS JUNE 15.
11:05:24AM FINALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE MEETING, MR. MENDER WILL
11:05:27AM TESTIFY REQUEST THAT, BUT THEY WERE TO MEET WITH THE
11:05:31AM UNIVERSITY ON TUESDAY OF THIS WEEK.
11:05:33AM UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAD TO AGREE TO DISAGREE AND WE WILL BE
11:05:35AM GETTING INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT.
11:05:36AM AS IT RELATES TO PARKING, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO YOU TO
11:05:42AM PROVIDE PROPER JUSTIFICATION TO SUPPORT THE PARKING WAIVER
11:05:46AM THAT IS BEING REQUESTED.
11:05:47AM I WOULD SUBMIT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND ITS
11:05:50AM PROFESSIONALS HAVE BEEN THOUGHTFUL OF HOW THEY ARRIVED AT
11:05:53AM THEIR PARKING COUNT.
11:05:54AM AS A RESULT, I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THAT YOUR UNANIMOUS VOTE
11:05:58AM AT THE FIRST READING ON JULY 21, WHICH INCLUDED A DISCUSSION
11:06:02AM AND QUESTIONS ON THE PARKING WAIVER WAS CORRECT AND
11:06:05AM WARRANTED.
11:06:05AM WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE LOOKED INTO THIS ISSUE FURTHER
11:06:10AM AND ADDIE CLERK WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SUPPORT
11:06:13AM THIS REQUEST.
11:06:15AM ADDIE IS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND SPENT THE LAST SIX
11:06:20AM YEARS AT KIMLEY-HORN WORK ON TRANSPORTATION MATTERS.
11:06:25AM I HAVE HER CV WHICH I WILL BE HAPPY TO TURN INTO THE RECORD.
11:06:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, WE HAVE SIX MEMBERS HERE AND I
11:06:46AM DON'T KNOW IF --
11:06:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.
11:06:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST OUT OF COURTESY TO THE APPLICANT.
11:06:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:06:58AM I APOLOGIZE.
11:06:59AM I WAS NOT HERE TO BE SWORN IN.
11:07:02AM SO I WILL NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
11:07:03AM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
11:07:04AM [SWEARING IN]
11:07:09AM >> I DO.
11:07:09AM THANK YOU.
11:07:10AM GOOD MORNING.
11:07:11AM FOR THE RECORD, ANY NAME IS ADDIE CLARK, 400 NORTH ASHLEY
11:07:16AM DRIVE.
11:07:16AM AS TRUETT SAID, A REGISTERED ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF
11:07:21AM FLORIDA AND I SPECIALIZE IN TRANSPORTATION, ENGINEERING AND
11:07:24AM PLANNING.
11:07:24AM AS TRUETT MENTIONED, IT WAS ANALYZED IN GREAT DETAIL IN
11:07:30AM QUANTITATIVE AND QUALITATIVE PERSPECTIVE.
11:07:32AM THIS SEEKS TO KNACKSMIZE THE STUDENTS ACCESSIBILITY TO THE
11:07:36AM SCHOOL AND TO URBAN AMENITIES.
11:07:39AM IT IS IMPORTANT TO VIEW THIS PROJECT AS A VITAL COMPONENT IN
11:07:42AM PROMOTING THE LIVE, LEARN, WORK AND PLAY ENVIRONMENT THAT
11:07:46AM EXTENDS JUST A HALF A MILE BEYOND THE DEFINED CENTRAL
11:07:49AM BUSINESS DISTRICT.
11:07:50AM THIS SLIDE -- AND I HAVE -- I HAVE A NOTE ON THE ELMO.
11:07:55AM THANK YOU.
11:07:57AM THIS SLIDE HERE HIGHLIGHTS THE PROXIMITY OF THE PROJECT
11:08:03AM TO UT AND TO THE DOWNTOWN CORE.
11:08:06AM AS SEEN WITH THE DARKER GREEN LINE, THE PROJECT IS LOCATED A
11:08:10AM FIVE-MINUTE WALK AWAY FROM THE CENTER OF UT'S CAMPUS.
11:08:14AM WITH THE LIME GREEN LINE, TEN-MINUTE WALK FROM THE CENTER OF
11:08:18AM DOWNTOWN.
11:08:18AM NOW TO ZOOM IN ON THE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLIST PERSPECTIVE.
11:08:22AM THIS NEXT SLIDE INDICATES THAT A STUDENT CAN WAKE UP, HOP ON
11:08:33AM THEIR BIKE AND MAKE IT TO PLANT HALL IN JUST ABOUT THREE
11:08:35AM MINUTES.
11:08:36AM IN ADDITION BEING ABLE TO BIKE, RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO BE
11:08:40AM NEAR MICROMOBILITY HUBS.
11:08:41AM THESE MICROMOBILITY HUBS ARE CHANGING THE WAY PEOPLE DO
11:08:45AM THINGS.
11:08:46AM SCOOTING TO MEET UP WITH FRIENDS OR GO RUN AN ERRAN
11:08:51AM DOWNTOWN.
11:08:52AM ER LESSENING THE DEPENDENCE ON SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLES AND
11:08:57AM PARKING.
11:08:57AM NOW TO TAKE A MORE QUANTITATIVE LOOK.
11:09:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE ZOOM OUT.
11:09:03AM A LITTLE BUTTON ON TOP.
11:09:05AM >> THANK YOU.
11:09:06AM INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL TO TAMPA.
11:09:08AM AS MENTION IN THE FIRST READING, THE CODE REQUIRED PARKING
11:09:12AM TODAY IF YOU PICKED UP THIS SITE AND DROPPED IT ABOUT HALF A
11:09:15AM MILE EAST, YOU THIS CDB CHANNEL DISTRICT OR FURTHER TO YBOR.
11:09:21AM YOU CAN SEE THE 210 SPACES THAT THE PROJECT IS PROVIDE ALSO
11:09:25AM BE PROVIDING MORE PARKING AS REQUIRED IN THOSE CLOSE
11:09:28AM PROXIMITY AREAS.
11:09:31AM YOU CAN SEE IN THE RED BOX, THE OF CENTRAL CITY MULTIFAMILY
11:09:37AM PARKING CODE IS AN OUTLIER.
11:09:39AM THE MULTIFAMILY PARKING RATIO REQUIRED BY THE NEIGHBORHOODS
11:09:43AM AND THE INSTITUTE OF ENGINEERS IS 0.97 SPACES OR 0.31 SPACES
11:09:50AM PER BED.
11:09:50AM THIS PROJECT IS PROVIDING MORE THAN THAT AVERAGE WITH 1.089
11:09:56AM SPACES PER UNIT AND 0.35 SPACES PER BED.
11:10:01AM THIS IS A GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION OF THE TABLE THAT YOU
11:10:04AM JUST SAW.
11:10:04AM AS YOU CAN SEE THE FAR RIGHT OF THE GRAPH, THERE IS
11:10:09AM CURRENTLY AN AMENDMENT TO THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN
11:10:14AM THE CDB AND CHANNEL DISTRICT OF ADDING STUDENT HOUSING AS A
11:10:17AM DEFINED LAND USE.
11:10:19AM CURRENTLY NOT A STUDENT HOUSING AS A DEFINED LAND USE IN THE
11:10:23AM CITY CODE.
11:10:23AM ALL BEFORE IS YOU FOR TRUE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.
11:10:28AM ONE IS GOING TO AND FROM WORK AND ULTIMATELY NEED MORE
11:10:31AM PARKING FOR THEIR VEHICLES RATHER THAN A STUDENT THAT LIVES
11:10:34AM A MERE FIVE-MINUTE WALK FROM CAMPUS AND TEN MINUTES
11:10:39AM DOWNTOWN.
11:10:40AM LOOKING OUTSIDE OF TAMPA, THE ARCHITECT SPECIALIZES IN MID
11:10:44AM AND HIGH-RISE STUDENT PROJECTS.
11:10:46AM THESE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES OF STUDENT HOUSING PROJECTS
11:10:49AM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THAT THEY HAVE WORKED ON.
11:10:51AM ALL OF THESE PROJECTS ARE SIMILAR TO THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU
11:10:54AM AS THEY ARE ALL IN URBAN AREAS AND LOCATED WITHIN WALKING
11:10:58AM DISTANCE OF A COLLEGE CAMPUS.
11:10:59AM THESE SITES PROVIDE AN AVERAGE PARKING RATIO OF .27 SPACES
11:11:04AM PER BED, WHEREAS THIS PROJECT IS .35 SPACES PER BED.
11:11:10AM AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE CITY PARKING THAT IS REQUIRED IS
11:11:13AM AN EXTREME OUTLIER.
11:11:15AM AND HERE IS A GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION OF THAT TABLE AS
11:11:20AM WELL.
11:11:20AM SO WITH THE DATA LISTED AND THE PRIME LOCATION OF THIS
11:11:23AM PROJECT SITE, IT IS MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT THE PARKING
11:11:26AM PROVIDED IS SUFFICIENT AND THAT THE SITE SEEKS TO MAXIMIZE
11:11:31AM THE USER'S ABILITY TO URBAN AMENITIES, PEDESTRIAN
11:11:35AM INFRASTRUCTURE, AND OTHER MICRO MOBILITY TO REDUCE ALLIANCE
11:11:38AM ON A VEHICLES AND PARKING.
11:11:39AM THANK YOU.
11:11:40AM AND NOW I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE DEVELOPER, GREG
11:11:44AM MENDER.
11:11:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:11:49AM I HAVE A COUPLE, PLEASE.
11:11:50AM MA'AM -- NO, THIS IS GOING TO GO TO YOU, BUT I WANT HIM HERE
11:11:56AM BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A JUMP IN.
11:11:59AM YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION IS GOING ON THIS BUILDING BEING
11:12:03AM OCCUPIED SOLELY BY STUDENTS.
11:12:05AM >> SO MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION LOOKED AT THE STUDENT HOUSING
11:12:11AM AS WELL AS THE COMMERCIAL AND DRIVE-IN BANK HOLISTICALLY,
11:12:14AM BUT WE KNEW THAT STUDENT HOUSING WAS THE MAJOR QUESTION WHEN
11:12:17AM IT CAME TO PARKING.
11:12:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU SAID STUDENT HOUSING.
11:12:22AM CAN YOU GUARANTEE YOU -- THIS COUNCIL, THAT IT WILL BE 100%
11:12:27AM OCCUPIED FROM STUDENTS FIVE YEAR FROM NOW, TEN YEARS.
11:12:32AM >> I WISH I COULD BUT A THING CALLED THE FAIR HOUSING ACT
11:12:35AM THAT GETS IN THE WAY.
11:12:36AM MR. MENDER CAN TESTIFY HOW THEY DISSUADE PEOPLE --
11:12:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU --
11:12:43AM >> WHAT YOU SEE IN THE IT AND WHERE THE CITY IS GOING AND
11:12:46AM WHERE THERE IS NO HOUSING DEVELOPMENT -- STUDENT HOUSING
11:12:50AM DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN ASSURE THAT, YOU ARE SEEING A BREAK OUT
11:12:53AM IN THE CODE OF DEVELOPMENT INTENDED FOR STUDENT HOUSING.
11:12:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A SIMPLE NO WOULD HAVE ANSWERED.
11:13:00AM BUT TRANSPORTATION OR TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
11:13:03AM >> MIXTURE OF BOTH.
11:13:04AM TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, TRAFFIC ENGINEERING.
11:13:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU PUT BACK UP THAT ELMO SLIDE THAT YOU
11:13:11AM HAD OF THE BIKE ROUTES TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA NO, THE
11:13:16AM OTHER ONE.
11:13:18AM HAD THE BLUE LINE.
11:13:21AM I NEED TO ASK THIS QUESTION OF YOU.
11:13:23AM >> YES.
11:13:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA A RIDE FRIENDLY
11:13:29AM CAMPUS?
11:13:36AM ARE THEY PERMITTING MULTIMODAL RIDE ON THEIR CAMPUS?
11:13:43AM MEANING BICYCLE, SCOOTER.
11:13:45AM >> BICYCLES I BELIEVE --
11:13:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BELIEVE OR NO?
11:13:51AM >> I BELIEVE BICYCLES ARE ALLOWED.
11:13:53AM BUT I WILL LET U.T. OR BETTER --
11:13:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEY WILL COME UP AND GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:14:00AM >> FOR SCOOTERS ARE NOT ALLOWED ON CAMPUS.
11:14:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SCOOTERS ARE.
11:14:06AM >> ARE NOT.
11:14:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM TRYING TO FIT IN IF THIS IS GOING TO BE
11:14:10AM SPECIFICALLY FOR STUDENT HOUSING WHICH WE JUST HEARD THAT
11:14:14AM BECAUSE OF FAIR HOUSING IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE.
11:14:16AM THAT THE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE COME UP WITH AS AN ENGINEER WILL
11:14:21AM ALLOW STUDENTS NOT TO HAVE TO HAVE CARS BUT BE ABLE TO USE
11:14:25AM MULTIMODAL TO GET TO AND FROM CAMPUS.
11:14:29AM MY QUESTION TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA IS ARE THEY
11:14:33AM RIDE-FRIENDLY.
11:14:33AM I THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.
11:14:34AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:14:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A QUICK FOLLOW-UP.
11:14:38AM CAN YOU PUT THE SQUIGGLY CHART UP.
11:14:42AM >> TWO SQUIGGLY ONES, THE TAMPA COMPARISON --
11:14:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE STUDENT HOUSING ONE, THANK YOU.
11:14:49AM OKAY, IF I JUST HEARD THIS CORRECTLY.
11:14:52AM FAIR HOUSING LAW DOES NOT ALLOW THIS TO BE RESTRICTED JUST
11:14:57AM FOR STUDENTS.
11:14:57AM IF IT WAS NOT STUDENTS AND, FOR EXAMPLE, FAMILIES STAYING
11:15:01AM HERE, WHAT WOULD BE THE PARKING EXPECTATIONS.
11:15:05AM WOULD THE PARKING NEEDS BE GREATER THAN WHAT YOU ARE
11:15:08AM ESTIMATING AS A STUDENT?
11:15:10AM AND WHAT WILL THAT BE.
11:15:11AM >> I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO REFER TO THIS GRAPHIC IF THAT'S
11:15:15AM ALL RIGHT.
11:15:16AM THIS SHOWS HOW CURRENTLY NOT A STUDENT HOUSING LAND USE IN
11:15:20AM CITY CODE WHO IS OVER.
11:15:22AM AND THE MAJORITY OF THESE BULLETS THAT YOU ARE SEEING ARE
11:15:25AM FOR RULE TO MULTIFAMILY.
11:15:27AM YOU ARE SEEING THE BLACK DOTTED LINE IS WHAT THIS PROJECT IS
11:15:30AM PROVIDING AND PROVIDING MORE PARKING THAN REQUIRED.
11:15:36AM IF THIS IS A TRUE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL
11:15:41AM BUSINESS DISTRICT, CHANNEL DISTRICTS, YBOR, WILL ALSO
11:15:45AM PROVIDING MORE PARKING THAN WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE
11:15:48AM INSTITUTES OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS.
11:15:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE, IF IT WAS
11:15:53AM MULTIFAMILY IN THE BUILDING.
11:15:54AM WHAT WOULD BE YOUR EXPECTATION BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE AS
11:15:58AM TO HOW MANY PARKING SPACES WILL BE NEEDED?
11:16:01AM >> I BELIEVE WITH THIS GRAPH, I WILL SHOW -- TO ME -- MY
11:16:05AM PROFESSIONAL OPINION IS THAT WE WOULD BE PROVIDING A SOLID
11:16:08AM AVERAGE WITH WHAT IS PROVIDED PER CODE.
11:16:10AM I DO BELIEVE STUDENTS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTUNED TO
11:16:15AM BIKING AND GOING PLACES.
11:16:17AM THEY LOVE TO WALK AROUND, OUTSIDE.
11:16:19AM BUT THIS GRAPH, I BELIEVE THAT WITH MULTIFAMILY WE WOULD BE
11:16:24AM PROVIDING AVERAGE -- SIMILAR TO WHAT IS AROUND THE AREA.
11:16:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT OTHER CHART THAT SAID .35 OR .21.
11:16:32AM WHAT WOULD THAT NUMBER BE FOR MULTIFAMILY.
11:16:35AM >> MR. CARLSON, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS
11:16:39AM HERE.
11:16:39AM THIS DEPICTS IT BETTER AS FAR AS NUMBER WISE.
11:16:43AM WHAT ADDIE SAID THAT WITH ARTFULLY STATED, TAKE THIS
11:16:48AM DEVELOPMENT AND MOVE IT TO YBOR, CHANNEL DISTRICT OR
11:16:53AM THE CDB, THEY WILL PROVIDE MULTIFAMILY.
11:16:56AM AND IF THERE IS NO STUDENT HOUSE, 182, 182, 182.
11:17:01AM WE ARE PROVIDE 210.
11:17:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: NOT THE REQUIREMENT, BUT THE EXPECTATION OF
11:17:10AM HOW MANY SPACES YOU WOULD NEED.
11:17:12AM >> ONE SPACE PER UNIT LIKE TRUETT MENTIONED IS THE GENERAL
11:17:19AM TREND HERE WHICH I BELIEVE IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER CODES
11:17:21AM AND WHAT WE SEE HISTORICALLY.
11:17:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT WOULD THAT NUMBER BE ON THE RIGHT
11:17:27AM COLUMN, DO YOU KNOW?
11:17:28AM YOU CAN'T PREDICT HOW MANY BEDS.
11:17:30AM BUT IS IT LIKE -- LIKE A HIGHER NUMBER THAN THOSE?
11:17:36AM >> THIS BREAKS OUT -- WHAT THAT WOULD BE ON A PER BED BASIS
11:17:40AM --
11:17:44AM >> CORRECT.
11:17:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: A REQUIREMENT OR WHAT YOU SEE AS A PATTERN
11:17:48AM IN THE INDUSTRY.
11:17:49AM >> WITH THE LADDER, PER UNIT IS WHAT PARKING CODES ARE
11:17:52AM DEFINED AS, THE INDEPENDENT PER UNIT.
11:17:58AM BEDS IS SOMETHING WE SHOW HERE RELATED TO THE STUDENT
11:18:01AM HOUSING AND TO GET IN A GENERAL FEEL OF HOW THIS STUDENT
11:18:04AM HOUSING PROJECT WILL RELATE TO THESE MULTIFAMILY CODES IF
11:18:08AM YOU BROKE IT OUT USING AN INDEPENDENT VARIABLE.
11:18:11AM BUT UNITS IS THE INDEPENDENT VARIABLE USED.
11:18:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:18:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I GREW UP EIGHT BLOCKS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
11:18:23AM FLORIDA.
11:18:23AM >> GO GATORS.
11:18:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT YOU TO SPEAK TO HOW LIKELY --
11:18:37AM WHAT ARE THE REASONS THAT SOMEONE WHO IS NOT A STUDENT WOULD
11:18:41AM CHOOSE TO LIVE AMONG STUDENTS?
11:18:47AM >> SO ONE THING -- I THINK ESPECIALLY GOING TO THE
11:18:49AM UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND THIS AREA AS WELL, IF SOMEONE --
11:18:52AM SAY A YOUNG NURSE JUST STARTING OUT OR IN MEDICAL SCHOOL,
11:18:56AM MAYBE A STUDENT IN THAT CASE, BUT WITH THE RATES BEING A
11:18:59AM LITTLE BIT LOWER, THEY ARE IN THE HUB, ESPECIALLY THIS URBAN
11:19:02AM AREA.
11:19:02AM A WALKABILITY AND HAVING THE DIFFERENT MIX OF USES IN THAT
11:19:08AM ONE AREA WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED.
11:19:10AM WE SEE TRENDS OF PEOPLE WANTING TO BE IN AN URBAN
11:19:14AM ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY CAN WALK TO MEET THEIR FRIENDS.
11:19:16AM WALK TO GO GET GROCERIES.
11:19:17AM I CAN SEE THAT SOMEONE WHO IS A YOUNG PROFESSIONAL WANTING
11:19:21AM TO SAVE SOME MONEY AND BE IN A VIBING, FUN, ACTIVATED AREA.
11:19:25AM >> WOULD YOU MIND IF I JUMP IN ON THAT ANSWER AS WELL.
11:19:28AM IT IS FUNNY BECAUSE THIS IS GOOD TO GAINESVILLE AND ADDIE
11:19:33AM AND I WERE LOOKING AT THAT YESTERDAY.
11:19:35AM WE WORKED ON A DEVELOPMENT CALLED THE NINE WHICH IS -
11:19:41AM >> DEAN -- WHAT IS INTERESTING, IT HAD A VERY HIGH PARKING
11:19:47AM RATIO BUT THEN ONE CALLED SOCIAL 28.
11:19:51AM LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CAMPUS.
11:19:53AM AS YOU REMEMBER HERE .35, IT WAS .18.
11:20:00AM WHAT IS BEARING OUT AND USINGUT AS AN EXAMPLE.
11:20:06AM AS A PART OF THAT DRIVING TO CAMPUS IS A CAMPUS AND
11:20:11AM SOMETHING THEY DO.
11:20:11AM THEY ARE GOING TO CHOOSE SOMETHING WITH A DEVELOPMENT THAT
11:20:14AM HAS PARKING WHEREAS A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOVING THE URBAN
11:20:17AM LIFE.
11:20:17AM THEY WANT TO LIVE CLOSE.
11:20:18AM THEY ARE WILLING TO GIVE UP THE CAR SO THEY CAN WALK.
11:20:21AM AND I THINK THAT WAS THE SITUATION WITH SOCIAL 18.
11:20:24AM THAT IS THE SITUATION WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT HERE.
11:20:26AM AGAIN .18 AT SOCIAL 18.
11:20:32AM .35 HERE.
11:20:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:20:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
11:20:39AM PLEASE PROCEED.
11:20:39AM >> ANY NAME IS GREG MENDER, 2915 WEST BAY CORN AVENUE.
11:20:47AM I AM ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS OF THIS PROJECT.
11:20:49AM ONE OF THE PARTNERS.
11:20:50AM I STOOD BEFORE YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND WENT THROUGH
11:20:53AM SOME OF THE STATISTICS ASSOCIATED WITH A IN AND WE FOLLOWED
11:20:55AM UP WITH ADDITIONAL STATISTICS TODAY, MEASURES, CODE
11:20:58AM REQUIREMENTS, ETC.
11:20:59AM WE THINK OUR -- A LOT OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS MEASURED BASE
11:21:04AM AND ON EXPERIENCE AND PARALLELING OUR PROJECT AND LOOKING AT
11:21:07AM OUR PROJECT IN THE CONTEXT OF WHERE IT SITS AND IN THE
11:21:10AM CONTEXT OF WHERE TRENDS ARE MOVING IN THE MARKET.
11:21:12AM TRENDS ARE MOVING NOT JUST IN THE TAMPA MARKET BUT IN THE
11:21:15AM BROADER MARKET AS STUDENT HOUSING.
11:21:17AM SINCE THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, THERE A WAY TO GUARANTEE
11:21:20AM STUDENTS LIVE IN THIS BUILDING, 100%.
11:21:23AM THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO BECAUSE LAWS ASSOCIATE WITH THAT;
11:21:27AM HOWEVER, THE REASON THIS INDUSTRY EXISTS AS A STUDENT
11:21:30AM HOUSING PRODUCT IS SIMILAR TO THE REASON THAT OTHER PRODUCTS
11:21:33AM EXIST IN THE MULTIFAMILY MARKET.
11:21:36AM THEY ARE TARGETED TOWARD THE END USERS.
11:21:40AM THEY ARE MET WITH THE THINGS WE PROVIDE.
11:21:43AM AMENITIES, DESIGN OF THE BUILDING, EVERYTHING FROM INTERNET
11:21:47AM CONNECTIVITY OF THE AMEN TIE, THE SPACES THEY OCCUPY IN THE
11:21:51AM BUILDING.
11:21:51AM THE FACT THAT IT IS FURNISHED.
11:21:53AM MOVE-IN READY AND EASY TO BE A RESIDENT OF OUR BUILDING.
11:21:57AM AND REALLY WHAT I AM GOING WITH THAT IS MARKET DEMAND AS
11:22:02AM MUCH OF AN INFLUENCE OVER US AS MUCH OF THE STATISTICS DO.
11:22:06AM IT IS NOT IN OUR BENEFIT TO UNDERAMEN ADVERTISE OR PARK A
11:22:12AM PROJECT.
11:22:12AM NOT TO OUR BENEFIT IF A RESIDENT ASKS TO LIVE THERE AND SOLE
11:22:18AM CRITERIA TO HAVE AN APARTMENT AND PLACE TO LIVE ALONG WITH A
11:22:21AM PARKING SPACE, WE WILL SEEK OUT OTHER PLACES TO LIVE.
11:22:24AM THAT IS OUR RISK.
11:22:25AM AND AS A PRIVATE DEVELOPER, WE MEASURE THAT RISK DAILY AND
11:22:29AM TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY.
11:22:31AM WE HAVE A LOT OF FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY NOT ONLY TO
11:22:35AM OURSELVES, OUR INVESTORS AND POTENTIAL RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN
11:22:38AM THE BUILDING.
11:22:39AM WE HAVE TO MEASURE ALL THESE THINGS AND PUT IN PLACE WHAT WE
11:22:43AM BELIEVE IS FINANCIAL ALLY SUCCESSFUL AND YOU WILL FATLY FROM
11:22:47AM A LIFESTYLE AND NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T IS SUCCESSFUL.
11:22:51AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID INVESTING IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND AREAS
11:22:55AM AND MAKING THEM CONSISTENT AND BASED ON THE FEEDBACK OF THAT
11:22:58AM NEIGHBORHOOD IS IMPORTANT.
11:22:59AM WE ASKED OUR NEIGHBORS AROUND US TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF OUR
11:23:02AM PROJECT.
11:23:02AM WE HAVE SEEN THAT IN OUR IMMEDIATE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS ARE
11:23:05AM ALL ON BOARD.
11:23:06AM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA IS AN IMPORTANT CONSTITUENT IN WHAT
11:23:11AM WE ARE DOING.
11:23:12AM WE LISTENED TO THEM.
11:23:13AM WE MET WITH THEM THE OTHER DAY.
11:23:16AM THE WAY WE MEASURE THE MARKET AND DEMAND AND THE AMOUNT OF
11:23:20AM PARKING THEY REQUESTED WE INCLUDE IN THIS PROJECT IS NOT A
11:23:22AM FEASIBLE NUMBER.
11:23:23AM NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE -- THE COST TO BUILD, BUT ALSO THE
11:23:28AM FACT THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE OUR CLIENTELE WILL DEMAND IT.
11:23:32AM GIVEN THAT THIS IS A RELATIVELY NEW PRODUCT TO THE URBAN
11:23:37AM CORE OF TAMPA, THE STUDENT HOUSING FOCUS MODEL, WE HAVE
11:23:41AM BORNE OUT THROUGH OUR EXPERIENCE THAT WE ARE MORE WALKABLE
11:23:45AM AS A PRODUCT.
11:23:46AM THAT WE ARE SEEING LOWER DEMAND FOR PARKING.
11:23:50AM THERE ARE HIGHER OFFERINGS OF MOBILITY.
11:23:53AM CERTAINLY MICROMOBILITY HAS IMPROVED TREMENDOUSLY IN THE
11:23:57AM CITY OF TAMPA.
11:23:57AM WE CAN'T BUILD ENOUGH PACKAGE STORAGE IN OUR BUILDINGS TO
11:24:01AM MEET THE DEMAND.
11:24:02AM ONE OF THE THINGS WE OFTEN SEE IN OUR MOVE-
11:24:06AM PROCESS WHICH WE ARE JUST COMPLETING IN OUR PROJECT IN
11:24:10AM DOWNTOWN PROJECT CALLED THE HENRY IS THAT A LOT OF STUDENTS
11:24:14AM THAT OCCUPY OUR BUILDING ARE FROM THE NORTHEAST OR
11:24:17AM MIDWESTERN UNITED STATES.
11:24:19AM THEY LITERALLY FLY IN AND SHIP THEIR GOODS, CLOTHING, THINGS
11:24:25AM FOR THEIR APARTMENTS TO THE BUILDING ITSELF.
11:24:28AM WE RECEIVE THEM FOR THEM.
11:24:29AM THEY FLY INTO TOWN TO OUR PLACE AND MOVE IN.
11:24:32AM WHICH IS A TREMENDOUS STRAIN TREMLEY ON OUR PROJECT.
11:24:38AM THEY ALSO THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, WE DESIGN
11:24:41AM INTO OUR PROJECTS PACKAGE STORAGE FOR AMAZON, FEDERAL
11:24:47AM EXPRESS, STATIONS FOR UBER EATS AND ALL THE OTHER
11:24:50AM SERVICES, INSTACART AND SHIPD.
11:24:54AM STUDENTSED TO ARE APP FRIENDLY.
11:24:58AM THEY ARE TECHOLOGY SAVVY AND THEY USE THE SERVICES MORE THAN
11:25:04AM I EVER WOULD USE THEM.
11:25:05AM WE NEED TO STEP BACK AND LOOK AT WHO OUR TARGET MARKET IS
11:25:10AM AND HOW THIS THEY LIVE THEIR LIFE TODAY.
11:25:11AM THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE WAY WE ALL MEASURE THAT AS
11:25:14AM INDIVIDUALS OF MY AGE OF 53.
11:25:17AM I HAVE TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS WHO ARE IN THE COLLEGIATE ERA.
11:25:21AM AND I KNOW THEIR LIFESTYLE IS HEAVILY DEPENDENT ON OTHER
11:25:25AM OPTIONS FOR MOBILITY AND NOT CARS.
11:25:27AM THAT IS ANECDOTAL, BUT WE HAVE TO WEAVE IN A LITTLE ART AND
11:25:33AM SCIENCE IN WHAT WE DO.
11:25:34AM FINANCE ASSOCIATED WITH REVIEWING A DEAL.
11:25:37AM LOOKING AT OUR TARGET MARKET.
11:25:40AM WE CAN PUT TOGETHER ALL THESE STATISTICS, MEASURE THEM,
11:25:44AM DESIGN TO THEM.
11:25:45AM ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT IF WE DON'T TRULY BELIEVE THAT WILL BE
11:25:48AM SUCCESSFUL AND WE PUT THAT INTO THE MARKET, IT IS COMPLETELY
11:25:52AM AGAINST OUR BEST INTEREST TO UNDERSERVE OUR TARGET MARKET.
11:25:57AM RIGHT.
11:25:57AM THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE TO BALANCE THOSE THINGS.
11:25:59AM WE BELIEVE WE STRUCK THAT BALANCE AND STRUCK IT WELL WITH
11:26:03AM WHAT WE ARE PUTTING IN FRONT OF YOU.
11:26:06AM WE FEEL THAT WITH A LOT OF CONVICTION.
11:26:08AM WE WON'T BE HERE TODAY TO JUST SAY, WELL, WE KIND OF BATTED
11:26:12AM AROUND IN A CONFERENCE ROOM.
11:26:14AM WE DIDN'T DO THAT.
11:26:15AM WE HAVE DONE ALL OF OUR HOMEWORK.
11:26:17AM WE THINK WE HAVE SHOWN YOU THAT HOMEWORK AND FOLLOWING STAND
11:26:21AM BY THAT HOMEWORK, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY OUR RISK
11:26:24AM THAT POTENTIAL TENANTS WILL MOVE ON AND WON'T RENT IN OUR
11:26:28AM BUILDING AND THAT LACK OF DEMAND OR INABILITY TO MEET THAT
11:26:32AM SUPPLY -- THAT DEMAND WITH OUR SUPPLY WOULD BE AT OUR RISK.
11:26:36AM I THINK LASTLY, SOMEONE SAID EARLIER ON, I THINK IT WAS
11:26:40AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, THAT YOUR QUASI-JUDICIAL GROUP, RIGHT.
11:26:46AM SO YOU ARE HERE TO MEASURE NOT ONLY STATS AND TESTIMONY AND
11:26:50AM FACTS AND BASIS BUT ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT ART, RIGHT, OF
11:26:53AM WHAT WE PRESENT TO YOU AS DEVELOPERS.
11:26:56AM MEASURING WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS APPLICABLE TO THIS LOCATION
11:26:59AM IS KIND OF WHAT WE ARE ASKING TO DO IS TO NOT ONLY LOOK AT
11:27:03AM STATISTICS BUT LISTEN TO THE TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF YOU.
11:27:06AM THANK YOU.
11:27:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:27:08AM ANY QUESTIONS?
11:27:10AM ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THIS CASE?
11:27:16AM PLEASE COME FORWARD.
11:27:17AM >> MY NAME IS SCOTT GOSIN, THE DIRECTOR OF THE DESIGN AND
11:27:34AM CONSTRUCTION FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
11:27:35AM I AM A REGISTERED ARCHITECT AND AN EXPERT IN THIS MATTER AS
11:27:39AM WELL.
11:27:39AM I AM GOING TO GO TO -- JUST ADDRESSING SOME COUNTY ITEMS
11:27:43AM THAT THEY RAISED.
11:27:44AM THIS WEEK WE HEARD OF THE URGENT NEED FOR MORE STUDENT
11:27:48AM HOUSING.
11:27:48AM I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE DEVELOPER DID NOT SPEAK
11:27:51AM TO THE UNIVERSITY.
11:27:51AM I AM SORRY, BUT SENDING AN E-MAIL TO THE PRESIDENT SAYING
11:27:55AM YOU ARE LOOKING AT DOING THE PROJECT DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY
11:27:58AM DETAIL WHAT THE PROJECT IS.
11:27:59AM ALL OF OUR CURRENT STUDENTS ON CAMPUS HAVE ALL BEEN
11:28:02AM SUCCESSFULLY HOUSE THIS YEAR.
11:28:04AM ONCE AGAIN THIS SO-CALLED URGENT NEED IS AN ANOMALY.
11:28:07AM THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 4,000 UNITS CURB RECENTLY UNDER
11:28:11AM CONSTRUCTION OR PROPOSED AROUND THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
11:28:14AM WE ONLY HAVE 500 UNDERGRADUATE STUDENTS HOUSED OFFCAMPUS.
11:28:18AM THIS WHOLE NOTION THIS WILL BE FILLED WITH STUDENTS IS NOT
11:28:21AM REALISTIC.
11:28:22AM THE PARKING WAIVER SAYS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS RESERVED FOR
11:28:28AM STUDENT HOUSING.
11:28:29AM WE TOUCHED ON IT.
11:28:30AM THE DEVELOPER IS HOPING TO ATTRACT OUR STUDENTS BUT WILL BE
11:28:34AM USED FOR MULTIFAMILY IF NOT FILLED WITH STUDENTS.
11:28:37AM AND I THINK THAT IS VERY LIKELY.
11:28:38AM THE PARKING WAIVER THAT 80% COME FROM OUT OF STATE AND THE
11:28:43AM SAFE ASSUMPTION THAT FELL IN NOT HARNESS A VEHICLE.
11:28:47AM THAT IS NOT A CORRECT ASSUMPTION BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT
11:28:51AM TALKED TO US. 70% OF THE OFF CAMPUS REGISTER FOR
11:28:55AM A PARKING PERMIT.
11:28:56AM THIS IS THEIR TARGET POPULATION.
11:28:58AM EVEN THE JUNIORS AND SENIOR WHO LIVE ON OUR CAMPUS, 60% OF
11:29:02AM THEM REQUEST A PARKING PERMIT.
11:29:03AM SO THIS WHOLE .35 IS ABOUT HALF OF WHAT THEY ACTUALLY NEED.
11:29:09AM THEY TALK ABOUT THIS PLACE OF ORIGIN.
11:29:12AM AND GREG MENTIONED THEY FLY IN.
11:29:14AM THAT IS NOT TRUE.
11:29:15AM I JUST MENTION THAT 60% OF OUR JUNIORS AND SENIOR WHO LIVE
11:29:22AM ON CAMPUS HAVE A CAR.
11:29:23AM I MENTIONED THAT 77 TO 81% OF JUNIORS AND SENIORS OFF CAMPUS
11:29:28AM HAVE A CAR.
11:29:29AM THEY ARE TO OBVIOUSLY NOT FLYING IN.
11:29:31AM THEY ARE DRIVING DOWNND MOVING IN.
11:29:33AM THE DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING 456 BED IS ONLY 199 PARKING
11:29:39AM SPACES.
11:29:40AM THEY TOUCHED TO THAN .35.
11:29:42AM THAT IS HALF OF WHAT OUR DOCUMENTED STATISTICS SHOW.
11:29:45AM THEY TALK WITH OTHER PLACES ARE DOING.
11:29:47AM LET'S LOOK AT OUR AREA WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT.
11:29:50AM ADAM AND CHAZ ON THE OAK HURST .71 AND THAT PROJECT WILL BE
11:29:56AM IN FRONT OF YOU SEPTEMBER 8.
11:29:58AM ZIMMER ON THE WEST SIDE, 1.125, THREE AND A HALF TIMES THIS
11:30:04AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:30:04AM HENRY HAVE .454 THAT THEY KEEP REFERENCING THAT THEY JUST
11:30:10AM EXCEPTIONED.
11:30:11AM THIS IS A CRAZY EXCEPTION.
11:30:12AM .35 IS NOT APPROPRIATE AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS
11:30:18AM PERPETUATED.
11:30:18AM THEY SAY THAT THE UNIVERSITY OF IT.IS THEIR PROJECT
11:30:22AM AUDIENCE, WE HAVE A PROJECT WITH SEVEN WAIVERS TO PROVIDE
11:30:26AM STUDENT WHOING AND HERE WE STAND OBJECTING TO THIS PROJECT.
11:30:28AM IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
11:30:30AM IT DOESN'T HOLD WATER.
11:30:31AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:30:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
11:30:37AM SORRY, IF YOU ARE GOING TO PRESENT COMMENT.
11:30:39AM I WILL ASK QUESTIONS AFTER YOU GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:30:44AM >> RON VAUGHN, PRESIDENT.
11:30:49AM WHEN YOU MADE THE -- THE ORIGINAL JUDGMENTS AT THE PREVIOUS
11:31:00AM PRESENTATION, THEY PRESENTED WHAT MIGHT HAVE SEEMED LIKE
11:31:05AM COMPELLING FACTS TO YOU ABOUT THE PARKING THAT THEY DIDN'T
11:31:07AM NEED IN THEIR CURRENT BUILDING.
11:31:09AM AND, OF COURSE, THAT WAS AN ANOMALY LAST YEAR BECAUSE -- DUE
11:31:15AM TO THE PANDEMIC, WE HAD A HUGE SURGE OF FRESHMEN THAT CAME
11:31:19AM IN, 400 TO 5 MOUNTAIN MORE -- 500 MORE STUDENTS AND ABOUT HALF OF
11:31:26AM THEIR BUILDING WAS EMPTY.
11:31:28AM AND WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER OPPORTUNITIES TO PARENTS WHO
11:31:32AM NORMALLY WOULD NOT GO OFFCAMPUS.
11:31:35AM THEY DON'T WANT THAT FOR FRESHMEN AND SOPHOMORE.
11:31:39AM PARENTS WANT THEIR CHILD ON CAMPUS, BUT IN THIS CASE, THEY
11:31:43AM WERE ABLE TO GET HOUSING BECAUSE IT WAS NOTHING ELSE
11:31:45AM AVAILABLE AND THEY CAME TO -- TO TAMPA AND TO U.T. TO BE
11:31:55AM AT U.T.
11:31:56AM THEY CAME WITH THE IDEA THAT THEY CAN NOT BRING CARS TO
11:32:00AM TAMPA INCIDENTALLY.
11:32:01AM THEY BECAME OCCUPANTS OF THE HENRY.
11:32:04AM WE FILLED IT UP IN WITHIN A DAY, BUT, AGAIN, FRESHMEN, WHEN
11:32:10AM THEY COME TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, THEY ARE TOLD YOU
11:32:12AM CANNOT BRING CARS.
11:32:13AM SO WHEN YOU HEARD ABOUT THE EXTRA SPACE LAST YEAR IN THE
11:32:22AM HENRY, YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS MOST UNUSUAL
11:32:26AM SITUATION FOR THEM TO HAVE EXTRA SPACE, BECAUSE THEY HAD
11:32:29AM ABOUT HALF THE BUILDING WITH FRESHMEN ALL WHO CAME TO TAMPA
11:32:33AM FOR THE MOST PART WITHOUT A CAR, KNOWING THAT THEY COULDN'T
11:32:36AM HAVE A CAR.
11:32:37AM BUT BY THE TIME OUR STUDENTS GET TO A JUNIOR AND SENIOR
11:32:43AM STATUS IN PARTICULAR -- THAT IS PRIMARILY THE STUDENTS ARE
11:32:46AM GOING OFFCAMPUS.
11:32:47AM WE HOUSE THE FRESHMEN AND THE SOPHOMORES AND A FEW JUNIORS
11:32:53AM AND SENIORS.
11:32:54AM BUT THE JUNIORS AND SENIORS WANT MOBILITY.
11:32:57AM YES, THEY CAN WALK TO CAMPUS, BUT THE MAJORITY OF OUR CAMPUS
11:33:01AM WORKS.
11:33:02AM IT'S 'A HARD-WORKING STUDENT BODY.
11:33:06AM AS PART OF THAT, MANY OF THEM ARE DOING INTERNSHIPS
11:33:10AM PARTICULARLY IN THEIR JUNIOR AND SENIOR YEAR.
11:33:12AM AND INTERNSHIPS HAVE BECOME MORE IMPORTANT.
11:33:16AM SO THEY ARE DOING MULTIPLE INTERNSHIPS BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT
11:33:19AM HAS A HIGH IMPACT ON THEIR SKILLS.
11:33:22AM ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO REFUTE THE DATA THAT WAS ORIGINALLY
11:33:29AM PRESENTED TO YOU.
11:33:31AM AND PROBABLY GAVE AN IMPRESSION THAT, THAT FACT, THEY HAD
11:33:35AM PLENTY OF PARKING.
11:33:36AM WELL, IT WAS JUST DUE TO THE ANOMALY OF FRESHMEN COMING IN
11:33:41AM AND NOW THEY ARE SOPHOMORE AND THEY, TOO, DON'T HAVE MANY
11:33:45AM CARS.
11:33:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:33:51AM MR. CREMER.
11:33:54AM >> IF I CAN USE THE ELMO, WILL CHAIR.
11:33:57AM I'M HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
11:34:00AM >> CAN YOU SEE THAT OKAY.
11:34:06AM THANK YOU.
11:34:07AM COUNCIL, JAY KRAMER WITH STEARNS, WEAVER, MILLER, NUMBER
11:34:12AM 2100.
11:34:12AM 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
11:34:15AM I HAVE AN UNUSUAL ASSIGNMENT.
11:34:18AM I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE IMMEDIATE ADJACENT LANDOWNER TO
11:34:21AM THE NORTH.
11:34:21AM THE OLD UNIVERSITY INN.
11:34:24AM MANY OF YOU PROBABLY ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
11:34:26AM TAMPA HEIGHTS LCC.
11:34:29AM THEY ALSO OWN THE LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BLOCK TO THE
11:34:32AM NORTH.
11:34:32AM SO WE ARE THE MOST AFFECTED NEIGHBOR BY THIS PROJECT.
11:34:38AM AND -- AND I WILL SAY MY CLIENT AND I HAVE FOUND
11:34:44AM MR. GARDNER'S TEAM AND MR. MINDER TO BE, IF ANYTHING, OVERLY
11:34:49AM COMMUNICATIVE WITH US.
11:34:50AM WE HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH THIS PROJECT WE WERE -- WHEN I
11:34:57AM GOT INVOLVED, WE WERE CONCERNED OF THE PARKING ISSUE.
11:34:59AM OUR BIGGEST CONCERN.
11:35:01AM AFTER PARKING WITH THEM.
11:35:03AM I REVIEWED THE WAIVER.
11:35:05AM I REVIEWED THE STUDY, THE TRANSPORTATION STUDY, AND I'M HERE
11:35:09AM TO TELL YOU WE WORKED THROUGH OUR ISSUE AND FULLY IN SUPPORT
11:35:13AM OF THIS PROJECT.
11:35:14AM PETITION THINK IT IS THE RIGHT THING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:35:16AM YOU KNOW, I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THE ONLY COMPETENT,
11:35:20AM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE I HEARD SO FAR ON THE WAIVER ISSUE IS
11:35:23AM FROM A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
11:35:25AM I DON'T BELIEVE AN ARCHITECT IS QUALIFIED TO DO THAT TYPE OF
11:35:30AM PARKING STUDY.
11:35:31AM SO I THINK THE ONLY EVIDENCE YOU GOT TODAY IS IN SUPPORT OF
11:35:34AM THAT WAIVER.
11:35:37AM YOU KNOW, CHANGE IS HARD.
11:35:38AM PART OF THE CHANGE HERE IS THAT U.T. HAS BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL
11:35:43AM THAT IT HAS CHANGED THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:35:46AM AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CHANGING AND PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO WALK
11:35:50AM TO THE SERVICES AND WALK TO CAMPUS.
11:35:52AM THEY WOULDN'T -- EVEN FIVE YEARS AGO, THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T
11:35:56AM HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT AND HAVE EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED
11:35:58AM RIGHT THERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS
11:36:00AM CHANGED.
11:36:01AM CHANGE IS HARD.
11:36:02AM AND WE JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THOSE OF US IN THE
11:36:05AM NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT.
11:36:07AM THANK YOU.
11:36:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:36:09AM YOU HAD YOUR THREE MINUTES.
11:36:12AM THANK YOU.
11:36:15AM >> HELLO, OPERATIONS AT THE
11:36:22AM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
11:36:23AM I LIVE 4319 WEST NEPTUNE STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:36:28AM I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR A COUPLE OF MOMENTS, AGAIN, TO
11:36:30AM SUMMARIZE WHAT YOU ALREADY HEARD TODAY.
11:36:32AM OUR MAIN CONCERN IS, AGAIN, WITH THE AVAILABILITY OF
11:36:36AM HOUSING.
11:36:37AM IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE MARKET, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY
11:36:40AM 5,000 STUDENTS THAT REQUIRE OFF-CAMPUS HOUSING.
11:36:43AM STUDENTS OVER AND ABOVE WHAT THE UNIVERSITY NOW CAN
11:36:46AM ACCOMMODATE.
11:36:46AM SO OUR MARKET SHARE IF YOU WILL IS 5,000.
11:36:50AM OF THOSE 5,000 STUDENTS THIS YEAR AND EVERY OTHER YEAR BUT
11:36:54AM LAST YEAR WAS ACCOMMODATED QUITE COMFORTABLY IN THE
11:36:57AM DEVELOPMENTS SURROUNDING THE UNIVERSITY.
11:36:59AM WE ARE LOOKING AT 4,000 NEW BEDS COMING ON LINE SPECIFICALLY
11:37:04AM STARTED AT OUR STUDENT AND WE WELCOME THAT KINDS OF
11:37:07AM INVESTMENT IN OUR STUDENTS.
11:37:08AM MR. MENDER TALKED ABOUT AMENITIES THAT ARE GEARED TOWARD
11:37:11AM STUDENTS.
11:37:12AM ALL OF US WELCOME THAT.
11:37:13AM THE PROBLEM WE ARE HAVING THAT ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE
11:37:17AM ADVOCATING FOR A STUDENT HOUSING DESIGNATION.
11:37:20AM AND FOR -- AND WE JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THESE
11:37:24AM DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE FILLED WITH
11:37:26AM STUDENTS.
11:37:26AM SO WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS THEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
11:37:30AM MULTIFAMILY UNITS GOING INTO THE AREAS AROUND THE UNIVERSITY
11:37:34AM AND NOT ENOUGH PARKING FOR THOSE -- FOR THOSE FAMILIES.
11:37:38AM SO THAT IS GOING TO CAUSE A GREAT DEAL OF CONGESTION IN OUR
11:37:42AM AREA IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN DOWN NORTH BOULEVARD RECENTLY, YOU
11:37:46AM KNOW IT PRETTY CONGESTED.
11:37:47AM AND OUR PARKING GARAGE HAS BECOME VERY ATTRACTIVE TO PEOPLE
11:37:51AM WHO CAN'T FIND PARKING IN THE CITY.
11:37:53AM WHAT HAPPENS IS THESE DEVELOPMENTS IF THEY ARE NOT PARKED
11:37:56AM CORRECTLY FOR MULTIFAMILY UNITS, THEY ARE GOING TO PUSH THAT
11:37:59AM PROJECTS TO US AND PUSH IT TO YOU, AS THE CITY, TO FIND
11:38:03AM SOLUTIONS FOR THE PARKING.
11:38:04AM WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING THAT THIS PROJECT NOT BE TREATED
11:38:08AM DIFFERENTLY AS A STUDENT HOUSING PROJECT, BUT TREATED AS A
11:38:11AM MULTIFAMILY PROJECT BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT IS WHAT IT IS
11:38:15AM GOING TO BE.
11:38:15AM PARTIALLY STUDENT HOUSING AND PARTIALLY MULTI FAMILY.
11:38:18AM THANK YOU.
11:38:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S -- I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
11:38:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SEVERING BASED ON SOME CONSUMPTION OF
11:38:33AM WHAT IF.
11:38:33AM AND THE "WHAT IF" TO ME IS, A, DOES THE UNIVERSITY VIDEO THE
11:38:39AM CAPACITY TO TAKE ANOTHER 4,000 STUDENTS TODAY OR TOMORROW?
11:38:42AM I DON'T KNOW THAT.
11:38:43AM SO THAT IS -- WE ARE BUILDING ALL THESE HOUSES AS I HEARD
11:38:47AM FROM BOTH SIDES.
11:38:48AM MAYBE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF THEM COMING UP,
11:38:51AM BUT THE UNIVERSITY HAVE A FOOTPRINT TO EXPAND.
11:38:53AM I AM ASKING THE PRESIDENT.
11:38:54AM DO YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE 4,000,
11:38:59AM 500, 6,000 PEOPLE COMING.
11:39:01AM I AM SURE -- CAN YOU TELL US HOW MANY STUDENTS HAVE APPLIED
11:39:05AM AND HOW MANY ARE ON THE WAITING LIST OR WHATEVER.
11:39:08AM HOWEVER YOU FORMULATE THIS, SIR, SO WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND
11:39:12AM THE FACILITIES OF MAKING THE MANAGEMENT DECISION.
11:39:14AM DO WE HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY BASED ON THE AVAILABLE UNITS TO
11:39:18AM HANDLE WHAT IS COMING.
11:39:20AM COMPLICATED QUESTION.
11:39:22AM MEANING, CAN YOU HANDLE ANOTHER 4,000 STUDENTS?
11:39:26AM >> ON OUR CAMPUS --
11:39:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM SO WE CAN HEAR YOU
11:39:31AM FROM THE RECORD.
11:39:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVERYTHING IS BASED ON STUDENT HOUSING
11:39:34AM AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THE UNIVERSITY HAS 4,000 AVAILABILITY
11:39:37AM TO HANDLE 4,000 --
11:39:39AM >> IF WE LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AS FAR AS ONE CAN LOOK INTO
11:39:44AM IT, IT WOULD -- IT WOULD SEEM TO BE EXTREMELY UNLIKELY THAT
11:39:48AM THE UNIVERSITY WOULD GROW BY 4,000 MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE
11:39:52AM RIGHT NOW.
11:39:52AM WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM IN OUR FOOTPRINT FOR THAT.
11:39:58AM AND, AGAIN, IMPORTANTLY, PART OF THE KEY -- IT IS NOT ABOUT
11:40:04AM WHETHER YOU CAN WALK TO CAMPUS AND DO THOSE THINGS.
11:40:07AM IT IS WHERE ARE YOU PUTTING YOUR CARS?
11:40:11AM YOU ARE PUTTING YOUR CARS AT YOUR RESIDENCE
11:40:13AM AND MOST OF OUR STUDENTS HAVE GOT CARS.
11:40:16AM 80%.
11:40:18AM 60% OF ONES LIVING ON OUR CAMPUS.
11:40:22AM WHERE DO ALL THE CARS GO?
11:40:25AM AND, IN FACT, IF THEY ARE NOT PROVIDING IT IN THE LOCATION,
11:40:29AM IF THEY ARE NOT PROVIDING IT AT THE LOCATION, WHICH IN
11:40:33AM GENERAL IT IS NOT, IT IS HALF OF WHAT IT SHOULD BE FOR SOME
11:40:39AM ARE THREE TIMES WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
11:40:41AM BUT, NO, I DON'T EXPECT THAT THE UNIVERSITY WOULD GROW TO
11:40:46AM THE NUMBERS THAT WAS CITED.
11:40:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM ASKING THIS QUESTION BECAUSE IN MY
11:40:53AM MIND -- YOU HAVE A BUILDING THAT MORE LIKELY BE COMPLETED IN
11:40:56AM 24 TO 30 MONTHS.
11:40:58AM JOB HAS ASKED THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA IF ALL OF THE
11:41:01AM BUILDINGS, ONE OR TWO OR THREE OF THEM COMING UP IF THEY
11:41:04AM HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HANDLE THAT FOR STUDENT HOUSING.
11:41:06AM IF THEY DON'T, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE STUDENT HOUSING, I
11:41:10AM WOULD IMAGINE.
11:41:11AM >> THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE WONDERED BECAUSE OUR GROWTH.
11:41:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH,
11:41:18AM BUT I AM THINKING OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN HEARING AND I HEAR
11:41:21AM 77% TO 81%.
11:41:23AM AND SENIORS, 60% ASKING FOR PARKING AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
11:41:28AM MAKING NOTES, I ASKED MYSELF, IS ANYBODY ASKED THE
11:41:34AM UNIVERSITY TO COMPLETE THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME IN
11:41:37AM FULFILL THE APARTMENTS AND CAMPUS.
11:41:40AM >> THE UNIVERSITY IS VERY ATTRACTIVE.
11:41:41AM YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOT A GREAT REPUTATION AND WE HAVE DONE
11:41:45AM VERY WELL.
11:41:45AM BECAUSE WE DO NOT SEE US GROWING TO THE KIND OF NUMBERS THAT
11:41:50AM -- THAT WOULD OCCUPY ALL OF THESE PLACES.
11:41:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT IS YOUR CAPACITY NOW?
11:41:59AM >> IF I LOOK DOWN AT THE REASONABLE CAPACITY IN -- I WILL
11:42:03AM SAY THE YEARS AHEAD, A DECADE AHEAD OR SO MIGHT BE AS MUCH
11:42:07AM AS 12 THOUSAND IN, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:42:09AM BUT.
11:42:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT IN 16,000 IN THREE YEARS.
11:42:15AM >> THAT WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH IMPOSSIBLE.
11:42:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS WHY I AM ASKING MYSELF.
11:42:20AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO HERE.
11:42:23AM >> WHERE DO THE CARS GO WHEN PEOPLE BUILD ALL AROUND US.
11:42:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:42:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU SAID THAT 60% OF STUDENTS WHO LIVE ON
11:42:32AM CAMPUS HAVE CARS?
11:42:34AM >> YES, THEY DO.
11:42:35AM JUNIORS AND SENIORS.
11:42:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 60 FERRARI OF THE STUDENTS ON CAMPUS, BUT ALL
11:42:42AM OF THE FRESHMEN ARE REQUIRED TO LIVE ON CAMPUS.
11:42:45AM SO HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE CARS
11:42:49AM >> THE FRESHMEN AND SOPHOMORES, PARENTS GENERALLY WANT THEM
11:42:52AM TO BE ON CAMPUS.
11:42:54AM WE DON'T REQUIRE IT, BUT VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE OF FRESHMEN
11:42:57AM THAT ARE IN CAMPUS.
11:42:59AM AND ONLY 4% OF FRESHMEN HAVE CARS.
11:43:03AM SO, AGAIN, WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT -- IF YOU WERE COMING
11:43:10AM TO OUR CAMPUS AND YOU ARE A FRESHMAN, YOU CAN'T BRING CARS
11:43:16AM TO THE CAMPUS UNLESS THERE IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION MADE AND
11:43:21AM ONLY A HANDFUL OF THOSE.
11:43:22AM BUT BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE SOPHOMORE, A FEW MORE HAVE
11:43:28AM CARS.
11:43:29AM BY THE TIME YOU ARE A JUNIOR AND SENIOR.
11:43:32AM WORKING JOBS.
11:43:34AM INTERNSHIPS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
11:43:36AM A BIT MORE GOING ON TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EVERYTHING IN OUR
11:43:39AM WONDERFUL COMMUNITY, BUT AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE
11:43:42AM -- THEY ARE ALMOST 80% HAVE CARS.
11:43:45AM AND THAT IS THE AUDIENCE THAT THEY ARE HOUSING, YOU SEE.
11:43:50AM IT IS JUNIORS AND SENIORS.
11:43:53AM WE DON'T SEND FRESHMEN AND SOPHOMORE OFF CAMPUS AND WITH THE
11:44:00AM EXCEPTION LAST YEAR AND THE UNUSUAL SITUATION CAUSED BY THE
11:44:03AM PANDEMIC BECAUSE SO MANY WHO WANTED TO BE AT U.T.
11:44:07AM IT WAS HUGE AND THEY ALL CAME IN LATE AND EXPECTING TO TRY
11:44:11AM TO -- FIND HOUSING SOME PLACE.
11:44:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS YOUR CAPACITY FOR PARKING CURRENTLY
11:44:20AM RIGHT NOW?
11:44:24AM >> YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT.
11:44:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW MANY PARKING SPACES DO YOU HAVE ON
11:44:28AM CAMPUS?
11:44:28AM >> I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER WITH ME RIGHT NOW.
11:44:30AM I CAN TELL YOU THAT OUR PARKING -- OUR PARKING PLAN IS
11:44:33AM SEGMENTED MEANING WE HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES
11:44:36AM THAT ARE RESERVED FOR RESIDENTIAL STUDENTS WHO TEND TO NOT
11:44:42AM MOVE THEIR CARS THAT OFTEN.
11:44:43AM A LARGER SEGMENT FOR COMMUTING POPULATION WHO COME TO CAMPUS
11:44:47AM AND LEAVE THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
11:44:48AM AND A SEGMENT OF OUR CAMPUS PARKING THAT IS SEGMENTED FOR
11:44:52AM FACULTY STAFF PARKING.
11:44:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PARKING SPACES YOU
11:44:59AM HAVE, BUT HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE EMPTY?
11:45:02AM >> EMPTY.
11:45:03AM I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS WEEK, WE SENT OUT GLOBAL MESSAGES
11:45:06AM TO OUR STUDENTS LETTING THEM KNOW WHERE OUR AVAILABILITY WAS
11:45:11AM BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING FLOODED WITH CALLS THERE WAS NO
11:45:14AM PARKING ON CAMPUS.
11:45:14AM WE HAVE A -- WE HAVE A SERIES OF CAMERAS -- CLOSED-CIRCUIT
11:45:21AM CAMERAS WHERE WE CAN WATCH PARKING AND SEND OUT NOTICES TO
11:45:24AM OUR STUDENTS WHERE THE AVAILABLE PARKING IS FOR THEM.
11:45:27AM WE DO HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR ALL OF OUR STUDENTS
11:45:30AM PRESENTLY.
11:45:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY LAST QUESTION IS THE ONE THAT CONCERNS ME
11:45:33AM THE MOST.
11:45:33AM IS THAT -- I BELIEVE I HEARD SOMEONE SAY THAT YOU DON'T
11:45:37AM ALLOW SCOOTERS OR OTHER MOBILITY DEVICES ON CAMPUS?
11:45:42AM >> NOT QUITE RIGHT.
11:45:42AM WE DON'T ALLOW THEM TO BE STREWN THROUGHOUT THE CENTER OF
11:45:46AM OUR CAMPUS.
11:45:47AM THEY COME RIGHT TO OUR CAMPUS ENTRIES AND THAT IS WHERE THEY
11:45:50AM STOP.
11:45:50AM AS YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE PRETTY BAD WHERE THEY LEAVE THEM ALL
11:45:54AM OVER THE PLACE.
11:45:55AM WE TRY TO CONFINE THEM TO THE BORDER OF THE CAMPUS.
11:45:58AM AND BIKES WE HAVE ALL OVER THE CAMPUS.
11:46:01AM WE PROVIDE EVEN OUR OWN FREE CAMPUS BIKING WHERE WE PROVIDE
11:46:06AM BIKES FOR OUR STUDENTS TOO.
11:46:07AM >> STUDENTS ARE LARGE CONSUMERS OF SCOOTERS, YOU DRY BY THE
11:46:14AM UNIVERSITY, YOU WILL FEE PILE OF SCOOTERS WHERE STUDENTS
11:46:17AM USED THEM TO COME TO CAMPUS.
11:46:18AM WE DON'T ALLOW THEM TO GO THROUGH CAMPUS BECAUSE OF THE
11:46:22AM SPEED AND YOU DRIVE THROUGH OUR CAMPUS FROM 10 TO 4:00 IN
11:46:26AM THE AFTERNOON.
11:46:27AM IT IS DENSE AND THE SPEED OF THE SCOOTER IS NOT SAFE IN THAT
11:46:31AM ENVIRONMENT.
11:46:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:46:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: IN YOUR MASTER PLAN, CONSIDERING THE PARKING
11:46:42AM YOU HAVE NOW AND THE GROWTH RATES, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS IN
11:46:45AM THE NEXT FIVE OR TEN YEARS TO BUILD MORE PARKING GARAGES?
11:46:50AM >> WE DO.
11:46:51AM ACTUALLY WE JUST COMPLETED ONE NEW PARKING DECK THIS PAST
11:46:54AM YEAR ON THE -- SORT OF THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF OUR CAMPUS FOR
11:47:01AM OUR STUDENTS.
11:47:01AM SO THAT -- YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GETTING USED TO THAT.
11:47:05AM WE HAVE ANOTHER EVERYONE THAT IS IN THE PROJECT THAT IS
11:47:10AM COMING OUT OF THE GROUND NOW THAT WILL BE READY FOR 2024.
11:47:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: DEDICATED TO HOUSING --
11:47:17AM >> HOUSING, AGAIN, FOR FRESHMEN AND SOPHOMORE STUDENTS ON
11:47:22AM OUR CAMPUS.
11:47:23AM AND WILL ALSO HAVE PARKING AS PART OF THAT STRUCTURE, 450
11:47:28AM SPACES IN IT.
11:47:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE ASKED.
11:47:31AM IF -- WILL YOU BE BUILDING ANY PARKING WITHIN WALKING
11:47:37AM DISTANCE -- CLOSE WALKING DISTANCE OF THIS PROPOSED BUILDING
11:47:41AM WHERE PEOPLE FROM THAT BUILDING COULD PARK?
11:47:44AM >> WELL, I WOULD -- I WOULD -- I WOULD SAY THAT IT IS NOT
11:47:49AM REALLY OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE THE PARKING FOR ALL OF
11:47:54AM THE DEVELOPERS AROUND THE CAMPUS.
11:47:56AM THEY ARE PROVIDING THE HOUSING.
11:47:58AM THAT IS WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO LIVE AND RESIDE, THAT IS
11:48:01AM WHERE THEIR CARS SHOULD BE.
11:48:03AM WHY SHOULD WE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING
11:48:06AM AS PART OF THEIR PROJECT.
11:48:07AM YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT YOU HAVE GOT COMING UP, THOSE OTHER
11:48:12AM SITES THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED, THEY ARE DOING THAT IN A
11:48:15AM PROPER WAY.
11:48:15AM AND HAVE -- THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE AND APPROPRIATE AMOUNTS OF
11:48:21AM PARKING.
11:48:22AM THIS ONE IS A REAL LOW BALL.
11:48:25AM AND IF OTHERS WERE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT KIND OF A
11:48:29AM NUMBER, IT WILL CHOKE THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND BE A HUGE
11:48:35AM CHALLENGE FOR US.
11:48:36AM >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
11:48:43AM IF YOU LOOK AT BIKE DIAGRAM, THAT SUN WILDFIRE THE BIG
11:48:46AM PARKING GARAGES ON CAMPUS.
11:48:48AM YOU ARE CONCERNED WHERE THEY WOULD GO.
11:48:51AM WE WOULD SEE THE TYPE OF VEHICLES SCATTERED --
11:48:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT WILL THAT TO DO THE PARKING GARAGE.
11:48:59AM >> THE FIRST STALL YOU CAN HAVE FROM A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING
11:49:03AM PERSPECTIVE IS A STALL THAT DOESN'T HAVE TURNOVER.
11:49:05AM ONE OF THE NICE THINGS OF CAMPUS LIKE US, WE CAN CONTROL OUR
11:49:10AM CLASSROOM SCHEDULES AND SPREAD THAT LOAD THROUGHOUT THE
11:49:12AM WEEK.
11:49:12AM THAT IS ONE OF THE BENEFITS THAT THE UNIVERSITY HAS.
11:49:15AM WHEN YOU HAVE A STALL THAT DOESN'T HAVE TURN OVER.
11:49:19AM JUST -- I DON'T DOUBT THAT SOMEBODY CAN PUT THEIR CAR IN
11:49:22AM THEIR GARAGE AND OUR GARAGE AND NOT USE IT FOR A WEEK.
11:49:26AM THAT IS DEFINITELY POSSIBLE.
11:49:28AM WALKABLE.
11:49:29AM BUT THE PROBLEM THAT THAT CAR DOES NOT HAVE ANY TURNOVER.
11:49:32AM IT BECOMES A WORSE LOAD AND WE HAVE OUR PARKING CONSULTANT
11:49:38AM THAT ADVERTISE OUR PARKING ROUTINELY.
11:49:41AM KILLS THAT PARKING SPACE FOR US.
11:49:43AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
11:49:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M ASKING YOU TO DEFINE -- IS YOUR CAMPUS
11:49:50AM RIDE-FRIENDLY.
11:49:51AM I HEAR THAT SCOOTERS CAN COME UP TO THE FRINGE AND YOU CAN'T
11:49:55AM RIDE THEM ON CAMPUS.
11:49:57AM AND I HEAR BIKE SHARING ON CAMPUS.
11:49:59AM >> YES, SIR.
11:50:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BUT A STUDENT LIVING OFF CAMPUS CANNOT TAKE
11:50:06AM THEIR BIKE ON TO CAMPUS.
11:50:08AM >> OF COURSE THEY CAN DO THAT.
11:50:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I NEEDED THAT DEFINED.
11:50:13AM >> WE HAVE BIKE PARKING SPACES THROUGHOUT OUR CAMPUS.
11:50:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:50:19AM AND OTHER COLLEGES WHERE THE CITY HAS GROWN UP AROUND THE
11:50:24AM COLLEGE.
11:50:24AM THOSE COLLEGES MAKE IT MANDATORY THAT FRESHMEN AND SOPHOMORE
11:50:30AM CANNOT HAVE A VEHICLE.
11:50:31AM YOU THEY ARE TOLD NOT TO.
11:50:35AM MANDATORY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE?
11:50:38AM >> FOR FRESHMEN, WE SAYS IT A REQUIREMENT -- AGAIN, THERE IS
11:50:42AM UNUSUAL EXCEPTIONS --
11:50:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALWAYS EXCEPTION TO EVERY RULE, BUT.
11:50:49AM >> BUT ONLY A HANDFUL.
11:50:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MANDATORY.
11:50:52AM >> FOR FRESHMEN, IT IS A REQUIREMENT.
11:50:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MANDATORY.
11:50:57AM >> WE WILL TELL THEM.
11:50:58AM YOU WILL FIND EXCEPTIONS TO IT.
11:50:59AM BUT IT IS A HANDFUL.
11:51:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
11:51:03AM ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
11:51:09AM PUBLIC COMMENTS?
11:51:11AM PETITIONER, REBUTTAL -- HANG ON, ZAIN, YOU HAVE SOMETHING
11:51:15AM YOU WANT TO THROW IN?
11:51:18AM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:51:20AM I HAVE BEEN HEARING THESE WORDS "STUDENT HOUSING" THROUGH THE
11:51:24AM LAST FIVE -- THROUGHOUT THE LAST FIVE TO TEN MINUTES.
11:51:27AM WE UNDERSTAND PROXIMITY OF THE PROJECT TOWARD THE UNIVERSITY
11:51:30AM THAT THESE WORDS ARE STATED, BUT MAY I JUST MAKE IT CLEAR
11:51:33AM THAT STUDENT HOUSING IS NOT RECOGNIZED IN THE ZONING CODE.
11:51:36AM SO THAT'S OF COURSE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AND KEEP IN MIND.
11:51:42AM THANK YOU.
11:51:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:51:44AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:51:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ZAIN, COME BACK.
11:51:49AM REPEAT THAT AGAIN.
11:51:50AM NO PROVISION OF ANYTHING IN OUR CODE THAT REFERENCES
11:51:54AM ANYTHING ABOUT STUDENT HOUSING, CORRECT?
11:51:56AM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: CORRECT.
11:51:57AM THE ZONING CODE DOES NOT ACCEPT OR ACTUALLY USE THE WORD
11:52:02AM "STUDENT HOUSING."
11:52:03AM NOT REFERRED IN OUR ZONING CODE OR DEFINED.
11:52:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DEFINED AS HOUSING OR MULTIFAMILY.
11:52:11AM >> RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, CORRECT.
11:52:14AM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH, CATE.
11:52:23AM THE REQUEST FOR PD MULTI FAMILY, SHOPPING CENTER, BANK,
11:52:29AM DRIVE-IN AND SO ON.
11:52:31AM THIS REQUEST IS FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
11:52:34AM THE WORD "STUDENT HOUSING" ALTHOUGH IT IS -- THE PROXIMITY
11:52:38AM IS CLOSE TO THE UNIVERSITY, THOSE WORDS ARE NOT DEFINED OR
11:52:42AM RECOGNIZED IN OUR CODE.
11:52:44AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, ZAIN.
11:52:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:52:51AM >>BILL CARSON: REQUEST MISS WELLS, DO NOT HAVE A STUDENT
11:52:54AM HOUSING CATEGORY BECAUSE IT IS AGAINST FEDERAL LAW OR WE
11:52:56AM DON'T HAVE ONE.
11:52:57AM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS FOR THE RECORD.
11:52:59AM I HAVE NOT RESEARCHED THE ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED EARLIER
11:53:03AM TODAY WITH REGARD TO -- IF IT WAS LIMITED TO STUDENT HOUSING
11:53:07AM WOULD IT BE DISCRIMINATORY AND VIOLATION OF THE FEDERAL FAIR
11:53:11AM HOUSING.
11:53:11AM BUT COUNSEL FOR THAT APPLICANT HAS MADE THAT REPRESENTATION.
11:53:15AM OUR CODE CURRENTLY DOES NOT INCLUDE STUDENT HOUSING AND THE
11:53:19AM REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS MULTIFAMILY.
11:53:21AM I WOULD RECOMMEND IN LOOKING FOR THE WAIVERS BEING
11:53:24AM REQUESTED, LOOK AT THE REQUESTED USE, THE WAIVERS, WHETHER
11:53:27AM THEY MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF UNDER THE CODE.
11:53:32AM THANK YOU.
11:53:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOUR REBUTTAL.
11:53:35AM >> TRUETT GARDNER.
11:53:39AM COUPLE OFMENTS.
11:53:41AM AS MR. CREMER SAID, WE HAVE SUBSTANTIAL COMPETENT EVIDENCE
11:53:46AM THROUGH A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, NOT AN ARCHITECT THAT THIS
11:53:51AM WAIVER IS JUSTIFIED.
11:53:53AM WITH THE ISSUE OF STUDENT HOUSING ARE YES, NOT CURRENTLY IN
11:53:58AM THE CODE.
11:53:58AM BUT IN CDB WITH A NEW CATEGORY, STUDENT HOUSING.
11:54:04AM IT HAS BEEN VOTE AND ONE AND WILL BE IN FRONT OF YOU A
11:54:10AM STUDENT HOUSING.
11:54:11AM MR. CREMER SAY NOT ONLY FOR STUDENTS, BUT AS A MULTIFAMILY,
11:54:19AM WE CATEGORIZE IT AS A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, BASED ON
11:54:24AM GUIDELINES, WE EXCEED WHAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENT WILL BE
11:54:27AM FOR ANY OTHER URBAN VILLAGES IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:54:29AM WE ARE CONFIDENT THIS WAIVER IS JUSTIFIED AND WILL NOT
11:54:33AM BURDEN THE AREA.
11:54:34AM AS GREG MENTIONED, I HAVE THE LETTERS AND I WILL SUBMIT THIS
11:54:38AM TO MR. MASSEY OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER.
11:54:42AM AND THEN LASTLY, WE ABSOLUTELY RESPECT AND CHERISH THE
11:54:50AM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
11:54:51AM NOT TRYING TO QUESTION THEIR MOTIVES, BUT I FIND THIS ONE
11:54:57AM E-MAIL HARD TO JIVE AND JUSTIFY.
11:54:59AM AS DR. VAUGHN SAID THEY ARE FULL CAPACITY AND RECORD
11:55:04AM CAPACITY LAST YEAR AFTER COVID.
11:55:06AM THIS WAS AN E-MAIL WRITTEN BY GREG MINDER 11 MONTHS,
11:55:11AM SEPTEMBER 30 --
11:55:12AM >> CAN YOU PUT THAT DOWN.
11:55:13AM >> STARTS AT THE BOTTOM AND THE REPLY ON THE TOP.
11:55:16AM CAN YOU SEE IT.
11:55:17AM HE STATES, WE WOULD LIKE TO -- TO JENNIFER SIYA THAT DR.
11:55:24AM VAUGHN TOLD MR. MEND TO HAVE ALL HIS RESPONSES AND DISCOURSE
11:55:28AM WITH MISS SKYA.
11:55:29AM GREG IS WRITING TO MISS SKYA.
11:55:33AM WE WOULD LIKE TO COMMUNICATE TO THE BROADER STUDENT -- THAT
11:55:37AM THIS IS THE HENRY AT $115 PER MONTH.
11:55:39AM HOW DO WE DO THAT EFFICIENTLY.
11:55:42AM THE RESPONSE TWO -- ONE DAY LATER OCTOBER 1, 2021 FROM MISS
11:55:46AM SKYA TO MR. MINDER.
11:55:47AM HI, GREG, WE ARE NOT SEEING A DEMAND FOR STUDENT PARKING AT
11:55:51AM THIS TIME NO NOT ABLE TO GIVE COMMUNICATION TO STUDENTS.
11:56:00AM EVEN WITH THE BARRYMORE PARKING OFFER, SENT TO A LIMITED
11:56:04AM GROUP WITH VERY FEW TAKERS.
11:56:05AM JUST HAVING A HARD TIME JUSTIFYING THIS -- THIS ABSOLUTE
11:56:09AM DEMAND ON THEIR PARKING STRUCTURES WHERE THERE IS NO DATA TO
11:56:13AM PROVIDE WHAT THAT IS.
11:56:15AM AND THE ONLY WAY I CAN READ THIS E-MAIL IS THERE IS
11:56:19AM SOMETHING AMISS HERE.
11:56:20AM AND, BUT, AGAIN, BACK TO WHAT THIS REZONING IS ABOUT.
11:56:25AM IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AS A STUDENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
11:56:28AM AS YOU LOOK AT IT AS AN URBAN MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
11:56:33AM WE NOT ONLY MEET BUT EXCEED THE PARKING AND TURN THINGS OVER
11:56:37AM TO MR. MINDER.
11:56:38AM >> I HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME AND I WILL BE QUICK.
11:56:41AM OUR MARKETED RISK TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT TO THE COMMUNITY
11:56:43AM AND FOR IT'S A SORPTION.
11:56:47AM WE HAVE DONE A MARKET STUDY AND 3700 BEDS TODAY ARE IN
11:56:51AM DEMAND.
11:56:51AM ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THAT IS TRUE.
11:56:54AM YES, STUDENTS ARE FINDING THAT IRWAY INTO MARKET RATE
11:56:57AM APARTMENTS AND SHADOW PRODUCTS, DUPLEXES, SINGLE-FAMILY
11:57:00AM HOUSES THROUGHOUT TAMPA, FAR-FLUNG AREAS OF PARKING
11:57:08AM AROUND USF.
11:57:08AM MUCH MORE EFFICIENT PLACE FOR THEM TO LIVE, APPROXIMATE TO
11:57:14AM CAMPUS.
11:57:14AM WE KNOW THE DEMAND IS THERE.
11:57:16AM THE UNIVERSITY HAS SAID PLACE STUDENTS AND LAST YEAR BE
11:57:21AM OVERWHELMING DEMAND FOR THE HENRY.
11:57:22AM A LARGE SURGE OF FRESHMEN THAT WENT INTO THE BUILDING AND
11:57:25AM ALLOWED THEM AS PART OF OUR AFFILIATION AGREEMENT WE WERE
11:57:29AM NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE FRESHMAN, DOES NOT ALLOW INVENTORY UP
11:57:34AM TO 60 DAYS TO THE ACTUAL OCCUPANCY WHEN THE LEASE
11:57:38AM TERMINATION NOTICE IS FILED BY THE TENANT AND THE PROJECT
11:57:42AM KNOWS HOW MANY APARTMENTS ARE AVAILABLE FOR NEXT MONTH AND
11:57:46AM THE FOLLOWING MONTHS.
11:57:46AM THAT IS HOW THAT WORKS.
11:57:48AM WE ARE WELL IN ADVANCE.
11:57:49AM WE START SIGNING LEASES FOR THE NEXT YEAR OF NOVEMBER AND --
11:57:53AM OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR KNOWING THERE IS A
11:57:56AM LOT OF DEMAND.
11:57:56AM IN MAY WE WERE 100% LEASED FOR THE HENRY FOR NEXT YEAR, THAT
11:58:01AM DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY FRESHMEN.
11:58:03AM 15 TOTAL FRESHMEN LESS THAN 3% OF THE BUILDING AND AT THAT
11:58:07AM TIME 100 PARKING SPACES RESERVED FOR THE FALL.
11:58:10AM THAT NUMBER IS INCREASED BASED ON THE CONVENIENCE FACTOR OF
11:58:15AM HAVING A CAR AND NOT BASIS TO LEASE.
11:58:17AM AND WANT TO MAKE IS THAT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO COUNCIL.
11:58:21AM OTHER QUESTION HOW MANY PARKING SPACE THE UNIVERSITY OF
11:58:25AM TAMPA, 3125 STRUCTURE PARKING SPACES, 320 SURFACE SPARK
11:58:31AM SPACES, 3445.
11:58:33AM IN THE WEST GARAGE WHERE THEY DESIGNATE PARKING FOR
11:58:36AM OVERNIGHT ON CAMPUS STUDENTS 980 SPACES FOR INVENTORY.
11:58:43AM WE HAVE DONE OUR HOMEWORK.
11:58:45AM WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE PUTTING IN FRONT OF YOU.
11:58:47AM WE KNOW WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS WAIVER.
11:58:49AM THE MARKET SUPPORTS WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING AS DEMAND FOR
11:58:53AM THIS PROJECT AND THE MARKET IS SUPPORTING WHAT WE SUPPLY
11:58:57AM WITH PARKING.
11:58:58AM WE HAVE DONE THE WORK AND METRICS AND MEASURED IT AGAINST
11:59:01AM OUR RISK AND WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT WHAT WE ARE PUTSING IN
11:59:05AM FRONT OF YOU.
11:59:05AM THANK YOU.
11:59:06AM LASTLY -- CAN I HAVE TEN MORE SECONDS.
11:59:08AM THE UNIVERSITY ALREADY HAS A POLICY THAT NO -- NO OVERNIGHT
11:59:12AM PARKING.ALLOWED BY ANY DECAL PARKING HOLDER ON CAMPUS.
11:59:17AM IT IS A MATTER OF ENFORCEMENT.
11:59:20AM THAT IS REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.
11:59:22AM WE ARE OKAY AND HAPPY TO PUT IN FRONT OF YOU THAT WE WILL
11:59:25AM PUT INTO OUR LEASE THAT THERE WILL BE A RESTRICTION THAT ANY
11:59:28AM -- ANY RESIDENT WHO PARKS IN ANY UNAUTHORIZED AREA, WHETHER
11:59:33AM IT BE CITY OR UNIVERSITY OR WHEREVER, THAT WILL BE
11:59:38AM JUSTIFICATION FOR DETERMINATION OF THE LEASE.
11:59:39AM I WILL PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
11:59:41AM IF THAT IS WHAT EVERYBODY FEELS COMFORTABLE HAVING, I AM
11:59:45AM FINE DOING THAT BECAUSE WE ARE CONFIDENT IN OUR NUMBERS.
11:59:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS WELLS.
11:59:51AM YOUR TIME IS UP.
11:59:57AM MISS WELLS.
11:59:58AM >> OH, SORRY.
12:00:00PM >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
12:00:03PM I APOLOGIZE FOR ADDRESSING COUNCIL AFTER REBUTTAL IS
12:00:07PM COMPLETE, BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, MR. GARDNER
12:00:12PM TALKED OF STUDENT HOUSING PARKING RATIO INCLUDED IN THE
12:00:15PM ORDINANCES SCHEDULED FOR SECOND READING TODAY.
12:00:18PM YOUR ADDENDUM TO THE FINAL AGENDA FOR ITEMS 56 AND 57 ARE
12:00:22PM THE ORDINANCES HE MENTIONED.
12:00:23PM SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ HAD FILED A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE WHICH
12:00:28PM REMOVES THE PARKING RATIO FOR THE PROPOSED STUDENT HOUSING.
12:00:34PM THAT WILL ALLOW STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT ISSUE A LITTLE MORE
12:00:37PM CLOSELY.
12:00:37PM SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE RECORD THAT THAT
12:00:41PM PORTION OF THE ORDINANCE, EACH OF THE ORDINANCES, ONE FOR
12:00:44PM THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, ONE FOR THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT,
12:00:49PM THAT PORTION IS NOT MOVING FORWARD FOR TODAY.
12:00:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:00:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:00:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. GARDNER MADE A COMMENT OF THE LEASE.
12:00:59PM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE BIND WITH REFERENCE TO THE
12:01:02PM CASE.
12:01:02PM >>CATE WELLS: THAT WILL NOT BE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT
12:01:05PM WILL BE ENFORCEABLE AS A RESULT OF THIS ZONIN
12:01:07PM IF THAT WAS APPROVED, THAT WOULD BE A PRIVATE CONTRACTUAL
12:01:11PM MATTER.
12:01:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
12:01:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
12:01:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:01:17PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:01:19PM ALL IN FAVOR.
12:01:20PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
12:01:24PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:01:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS TO INCLUDE A REVISION SHEET AS
12:01:29PM WELL ONCE I READ THIS OR ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
12:01:34PM SECOND READING IN THE GENERAL SI SIN TEE OF 110 SOUTH
12:01:38PM BOULEVARD OP OFFICE PROFESSIONAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
12:01:46PM RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, STRIP SHOPPING CENTER, RETAIL
12:01:49PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND THIS INCLUDES A REVISION
12:01:52PM SHEET.
12:01:54PM >> SECOND.
12:01:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:01:58PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON -- I MEAN VIERA.
12:02:01PM EXCUSE ME.
12:02:02PM IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
12:02:06PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:02:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST BASED ON SOME OF THE NEW EVIDENCE
12:02:09PM TODAY, ESPECIALLY THE PART ABOUT THE LACK OF ANY KIND OF
12:02:16PM RESTRICTION REGARDING STUDENT HOUSING I AM GOING TO CHANGE
12:02:20PM MY VOTE TODAY.
12:02:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:02:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I UNDER STAND THAT, BUT THIS IS -- THIS IS
12:02:30PM NOT EVEN A HALF MILE FROM THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
12:02:33PM THEY ARE PROVIDING -- IN MY OPINION, WHEN LOOKING AT THAT
12:02:37PM CHART FOR YBOR AND ALL OF THOSE AREAS, THIS IS OFFERING MORE
12:02:42PM PARKING.
12:02:43PM I DON'T -- I DON'T KNOW VERY MANY FAMILIES THAT WOULD LOOK
12:02:50PM AT A FULLY FURNISHED MOVE-IN APARTMENT AS SOMETHING VIABLE.
12:02:56PM AGAIN, I HAVE SEEN THIS ELSEWHERE.
12:03:01PM I -- I THINK IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO
12:03:09PM NOT REACH THEIR TARGET MARKET OR IN THE -- SIMILAR AGE RANGE
12:03:15PM EVEN IF IT ISN'T A STUDENT.
12:03:17PM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY 45-YEAR-OLDS WOULD WANT TO LIVE WITH A
12:03:22PM BUNCH OF COLLEGE STUDENTS.
12:03:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT ME.
12:03:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM JUST SAYING, IT -- THEY ARE GEARED
12:03:30PM TOWARD A YOUNGER DEMOGRAPHIC.
12:03:33PM THEY JUST ARE, EVEN IF IT IS NOT COLLEGE STUDENTS, THEY MAY
12:03:37PM HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE SIMILAR.
12:03:38PM I DON'T DISAGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A CONCERN ABOUT
12:03:42PM PARKING, BUT IT DOES NOT -- IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE PROVIDING
12:03:46PM MORE MAN IN WE WOULD HAVE TO IN THESE OTHER SURROUNDING
12:03:50PM DISTRICTS.
12:03:51PM SO I AM NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
12:03:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:03:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:03:57PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW SOMETIMES WANT TO USE THE WORD
12:04:05PM "GET OVER," BUT WE GET OVER SOMETIMES.
12:04:07PM THE VERBIAGE OF STUDENT HOUSING AND WE GOT OVER WITH THIS
12:04:11PM WHOLE SITUATION.
12:04:12PM AND THEN IT COMES TO THE NINTH HOUR AND NOW WE HAVE TO MAKE
12:04:16PM A DECISION WHETHER THE UNIVERSITY'S NEEDS AND NONNEEDS AND
12:04:21PM DEVELOPER WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO PROVIDE ACTUAL HOUSING.
12:04:24PM I LOOK AT IT AS -- IT IS NOT GOING TO DO A LOT -- I AM
12:04:28PM LOOKING AT WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THIS IS, WHAT ITS GOING
12:04:31PM TO COST, A PERSON TO LIVE THERE.
12:04:33PM AND IT PROBABLY WILL BE A YOUNGER CROWD THAT WILL PROBABLY
12:04:35PM LIVE THERE, BUT I DON'T SEE A BUNCH -- COME FROM -- I DON'T
12:04:41PM KNOW ANYBODY I KNOW WILL HAVE THE MONEY TO LIVE THERE, NOT
12:04:45PM FROM MY COMMUNITY.
12:04:46PM BUT, AGAIN, IT IS -- IT IS PLAIN OLD WORDS AND GOT CAUGHT IN
12:04:52PM THE NINTH HOUR.
12:04:53PM IT IS WHAT IT IS AT THIS POINT, BUT TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE IT
12:05:00PM WILL BE HOUSING, NOT STUDENT HOUSING.
12:05:02PM I WILL MAKE MY DECISION.
12:05:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY ELSE?
12:05:06PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:05:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:05:09PM MY QUESTION WAS WHEN I SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY
12:05:12PM OF THE HOUSING THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING AND THE UNIVERSITY'S
12:05:16PM GROWTH IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS WHICH IS THE TIME I
12:05:19PM IMAGINE THIS THING WILL BE COMPLETED.
12:05:20PM AND THE UNIVERSITY STATED ON THE RECORD THAT THEY WON'T BE
12:05:24PM ABLE TO HANDLE THE STUDENTS FOR THAT AMOUNT OF THEIR
12:05:28PM CAPACITY.
12:05:31PM THE PROJECT SEEMS GREAT AND WONDERFUL IF IT WAS ANOTHER
12:05:35PM LOCATION.
12:05:35PM IT DOESN'T SIT WELL CLOSE TO SOMEBODY WHO IS ALREADY TELLING
12:05:38PM US THAT THEY HAVE A PROBLEM ACCOMMODATING WHAT THEY NEED.
12:05:41PM AND IN THE FUTURE IN THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, THEY WILL
12:05:44PM NOT GET 4,000 NEW STUDENTS ABOVE 12,000 THEY GOT NOW.
12:05:48PM AND SO THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 15,000 OR 16 THOUSAND IN
12:05:52PM STUDENTS.
12:05:53PM AND WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK.
12:05:55PM THESE ARE MY -- I LOVE THE PROJECT.
12:05:57PM I REALLY DO.
12:05:58PM I THINK IT IS A GREAT PROJECT.
12:06:00PM BUT COMES IN WITH STUDENT HOUSING AND OTHERS LIKE MR. GUDES
12:06:05PM SPOKE ABOUT.
12:06:06PM I AM A LITTLE HESITANT TO SAY YES.
12:06:08PM AND THEN BE WRONG.
12:06:10PM AND I CAN'T FIX THAT.
12:06:11PM THAT IS A PROBLEM THAT I AM IN.
12:06:13PM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF US.
12:06:15PM BUT IF THERE WAS A MAGIC WAND THAT SAID I CAN FIX IT AFTER I
12:06:20PM MADE AN ERROR, THEN THAT IS FINE.
12:06:22PM RIGHT NOW I CAN'T AFFORD TO TAKE THAT CHANCE OF ON THE OTHER
12:06:26PM ROAR AND HAVE MORE CARS AVAILABLE AND A CHAOS IN THE
12:06:32PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:06:32PM IT AIN'T GOING TO BE ABOUT US, BUT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE
12:06:35PM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:06:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
12:06:43PM I AM DIVIDED.
12:06:44PM IF I HAD JUST GRADUATED COLLEGE, AND I CAME DOWN HERE AND I
12:06:50PM HAD AN OFFER FROM A COMPANY AND SAID WE WANT YOU HERE.
12:06:54PM I WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE I WAS GOING TO LIVE.
12:06:57PM THIS WOULD BE IDEAL FOR ME.
12:07:00PM AS A COLLEGE GRADUATE, COMING DOWN, LIVING HERE FOR A YEAR,
12:07:06PM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE I AM GOING TO STAY.
12:07:08PM A COLLEGE STUDENT -- NOT, BUT A COLLEGE GRADUATE.
12:07:15PM ANOTHER IF I AM MOVING DOWN HERE WITH MY WIFE AND I AM
12:07:18PM LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO LIVE.
12:07:19PM IT IS FURNISHED.
12:07:22PM I WILL HAVE A LEASE THERE UNTIL I FIGURE OUT WHETHER I WANT
12:07:25PM TO LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA, EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, CARROLLWOOD,
12:07:29PM BRANDON.
12:07:30PM KAREN KRESS AND THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND A BUNCH OF
12:07:37PM OTHER PEOPLE CAME UP WITH GREAT PARKING IDEAS FOR DOWNTOWN
12:07:40PM WHICH ONE DAY I AM HOPING WILL EXPAND OUTS TO THE REST OF
12:07:43PM THE CITY.
12:07:43PM YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO START THINKING OF OTHER FORMS OF
12:07:51PM TRANSPORTATION, WHICH THEN LEADS ME BACK TO THE UNIVERSITY
12:07:55PM OF TAMPA AGAIN, AS I SAID, OTHER COLLEGES MAKE IT MANDATORY
12:08:01PM THAT YOUR SOPHOMORE AND FRESHMENS DON'T HAVE A CAR.
12:08:05PM THE GRAPH THAT WE SHOW, IN MY OPINION, THOSE SCOOTER
12:08:10PM COMPANIES -- THIS IS COMING FROM SCOOTER JOE, CANNOT GET ON
12:08:14PM THE CAMPUS.
12:08:15PM HOUSING IS NEEDED.
12:08:20PM BUT JUST TO DEFINE IT AS ONE SORT OF HOUSING, I -- I DON'T
12:08:26PM KNOW ABOUT THAT.
12:08:27PM ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR MADE BY COUNCILMAN
12:08:36PM MANISCALCO.
12:08:37PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:08:39PM PLACE YOUR VOTE AND RECORD.
12:08:42PM SHOULD WE GO TO ROLL CALL?
12:09:09PM >>CLERK: LET'S GO TO ROLL CALL.
12:09:11PM [LAUGHTER]
12:09:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
12:09:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:09:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
12:09:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:09:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
12:09:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HESITANTLY YES.
12:09:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:09:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:09:33PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA AND CARLSON VOTING NO.
12:09:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:09:39PM >> SECOND CITRO SAITH MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION BY
12:09:43PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:09:44PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:09:45PM ALL IN FAVOR.
12:09:46PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:09:47PM ANY OBJECTIONS?
12:09:50PM THANK YOU.
12:09:51PM I HAVE BEEN ASKED -- WELL, NO -- WE ARE IN ADJOURNMENT UNTIL
12:10:03PM -- RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
12:10:05PM YES, MA'AM?
12:10:08PM >> I WAS WONDER GOING YOU COULD DO NUMBER 50 THE ONE RIGHT
12:10:12PM BEFORE THIS BECAUSE I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO THANK YOU.
12:10:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
12:10:16PM I HAVE BEEN PASSED A PIECE OF PAPER ASKING US TO CONTINUE
12:10:22PM FOR A LITTLE BIT.
12:10:22PM SO LET'S TAKE NUMBER 50.
12:10:27PM ARE YOU GOING TO THANK US NOW OR AFTER THE FINISH.
12:10:37PM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
12:10:39PM IF I MAY REQUEST.
12:10:40PM IF YOU WERE DOING 50, IF YOU CAN ALSO DO 49 BECAUSE I AM FOR
12:10:45PM BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS.
12:10:48PM THEY ARE NOT RELATED.
12:10:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S DO 49 FIRST, TA/CPA 22-04.
12:11:01PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
12:11:03PM COMMISSION.
12:11:03PM A CITY COUNTY INITIATED AMENDMENT TO ADD POLICIES ABOUT
12:11:08PM CEMETERY PROTECTION INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
12:11:12PM CITY COUNCIL HAS SEEN THIS TWICE ALREADY AN TRANSMITTED
12:11:16PM TO CEO AND BEFORE YOU FOR ADOPTION.
12:11:18PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:11:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS ALONE.
12:11:25PM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO MAKE A COMMENT.
12:11:28PM SEEING NONE.
12:11:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
12:11:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
12:11:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
12:11:34PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:11:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER TA/CPA
12:11:41PM 22-04, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENT TODAY ARE SECOND READING AND
12:11:44PM ADOPTION ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA
12:11:49PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT TO CREATE NEW
12:11:52PM DEFINITION FOR CEMETERY AND UNMARKED HUMAN BURIAL TO AMEND
12:11:56PM LAND USE GOAL 19 AND CREATE POLICIES 19.5, 19.51, 19.5.2,
12:12:05PM 19.5.3, 19.5.4, 19.5.5, 19.6, 19.6.1, 19.6.2, 19.7, 19.7.1,
12:12:20PM PROVIDE FOR REPEAL.
12:12:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
12:12:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:12:25PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:12:27PM LET'S DO ROLL CALL.
12:12:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:12:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:12:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:12:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:12:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:12:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:12:36PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT
12:12:40PM AT VOTE.
12:12:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 50,TA/CPA 22-07.
12:12:51PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
12:12:53PM COMMISSION.
12:12:53PM TO ELIMINATE THE FLOOR AREA RATIO FOR THE SINGLE USE
12:13:03PM RESIDENTIAL.
12:13:04PM YOU HAVE SEEN THIS TWICE AND TRANSMITTED TO CEO THIS SUMMER
12:13:08PM AND CAME BACK.
12:13:09PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:13:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISSION MALONE.
12:13:14PM ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC?
12:13:16PM >> THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
12:13:17PM MY NAME IS SUSAN SWIFT.
12:13:19PM I AM THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR BOGGS ENGINEERING.
12:13:24PM I REPRESENT SAFE BEACH PARK AND BEACH -- BEACH PARK CIVIC
12:13:29PM ASSOCIATION ON THIS.
12:13:30PM I WANTED TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER CARLSON FOR INITIATING THIS.
12:13:35PM AND IT WAS INITIATED AROUND THE TIME I WAS CHANGING FIRMS
12:13:40PM WHICH IS WHY I HAVE NOT BEEN HERE BEFORE TO THANK YOU.
12:13:42PM BUT THEY -- THEY WERE THE IMPETUS FOR THIS.
12:13:46PM AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IF YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH
12:13:49PM ADOPTION AND THANKS TO MISS MALONE AS WELL FOR HANDLING IT
12:13:54PM THROUGH THE PROCESS.
12:13:55PM WHILE I WAS A LITTLE AWOL.
12:13:58PM THANKS AGAIN.
12:14:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS.
12:14:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
12:14:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
12:14:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
12:14:08PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:14:10PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:14:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040,
12:14:16PM TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, TO MODIFY THE USE OF FLOOR AREA
12:14:22PM RATIO FOR THE MIXED USE RMU-100 IN THE SOUTH TAMPA AND NEW
12:14:27PM TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICTS TO REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES.
12:14:31PM >> SECOND.
12:14:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND
12:14:35PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:14:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:14:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES
12:14:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:14:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:14:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:14:44PM >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA ABSENT AT VOTE.
12:14:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE AT RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
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01:32:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL.
01:32:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:32:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
01:32:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:32:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
01:32:39PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:32:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I KNOW IT HAS BEEN A
01:32:44PM LONG MORNING, BUT WE ARE GOING TO HEAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
01:32:56PM 534 AND GO BACK INTO STAFF REPORTS AFTER THAT.
01:32:59PM IF I MAY, ANYONE IN THIS ROOM WHO WILL BE GIVING TESTIMONY
01:33:05PM ON ANY.
01:33:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT TRYING --
01:33:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I KNOW, I WOULD AT LEAST GET THINGS STARTED
01:33:14PM AND HOPEFULLY THE OTHERS WILL FOLLOW.
01:33:16PM WE DID SAY 1:30.
01:33:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU DIDN'T SAY IN THE MORNING OR THE
01:33:21PM AFTERNOON THOUGH.
01:33:22PM [LAUGHTER]
01:33:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE WHO IS -- ANYONE WHO IS GOING TO BE
01:33:26PM GIVING TESTIMONY TO ANY OF THE QUASI JUDICIALS, IF YOU COULD
01:33:35PM PLEASE RISE TO BE SWORN IN.
01:33:37PM [SWEARING IN]
01:33:47PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: BEFORE QUESTION MOVE TO ITEM 53.
01:33:50PM I BELIEVE ITEM 60 FOR A REVIEW HEARING THAT NEEDS TO BE
01:33:54PM CONTINUED.
01:33:54PM IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT FIRST.
01:33:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL DO THAT.
01:33:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO OPEN THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARING.
01:34:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
01:34:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
01:34:04PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:34:06PM ITEM 60 NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED.
01:34:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 15, I
01:34:12PM BELIEVE.
01:34:12PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: 1:30.
01:34:14PM OKAY.
01:34:14PM >> SECOND.
01:34:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
01:34:19PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:34:21PM ALL IN FAVOR.
01:34:21PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
01:34:29PM NOW WE WILL GO BACK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 53.
01:34:32PM ZAIN, 53?
01:34:59PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
01:35:02PM CASE REZ-22-24, SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT LOCATION 4111
01:35:09PM WEST SAN CARLOS STREET.
01:35:10PM PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS-75, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
01:35:15PM TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY
01:35:18PM DETACHED.
01:35:19PM SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN DROPPED OFF TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
01:35:23PM I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
01:35:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HUSSEIN.
01:35:31PM SEEING NONE.
01:35:34PM PETITIONER.
01:35:35PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, CHAIRMAN.
01:35:42PM GIVEN THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS ITEM AND BEFORE BEING BEFORE
01:35:47PM YOU FOR FOURTH TIME, WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE HAVE A
01:35:50PM FULL COUNCIL HERE FOR THE VOTE.
01:35:53PM I AM VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THIS ITEM.
01:35:55PM MAYBE WE REQUEST THAT WE DO ANOTHER COUPLE OF ITEMS UNTIL WE
01:36:00PM HAVE EVERYONE HERE.
01:36:00PM IS THAT POSSIBLE?
01:36:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AGREE.
01:36:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAVE A SEAT.
01:36:08PM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
01:36:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHERE DID WE LEAVE OFF ON STAFF REPORTS.
01:36:15PM WE CAN DO ITEM NUMBER 3 WE ARE GOING BACK TO STAFF REPORTS.
01:36:23PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL, BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY
01:36:27PM ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
01:36:28PM ITEM 3 IS DOWNTOWN GRAVITY SEWER LINING.
01:36:38PM WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
01:36:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS.
01:36:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE JUST HAVE A COMMENT.
01:36:46PM NO WAY OF BEING DISRESPECTFUL IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI.
01:36:50PM THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED THERE SOME PART.
01:36:51PM THE WATER SITUATION IS TERRIBLE.
01:36:53PM NO ONE'S FAULT.
01:36:55PM BUT IT WAS JUST THAT WE INSTIGATED SOME TIME PAST AND WILL
01:37:06PM KEEP US WITH VOTING NOT BEING JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI.
01:37:11PM THEY HAD FLOODING AND CAUSED PROBLEMS AND IN THE WATER
01:37:15PM SYSTEM AND CONTAMINATED THE WATER AND THE PIPES -- THE
01:37:19PM FILTERING, EVERYTHING THEY HAVE THERE HAS BEEN.
01:37:27PM I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WILL FIX IT.
01:37:30PM I WISH THEM WELL.
01:37:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FOR THE PIPES PROJECT.
01:37:34PM >>BRAD BAIRD: PIPES PROGRAM.
01:37:35PM A PIPES PROJECT UNDER THE PROGRAM.
01:37:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
01:37:39PM >> SECOND.
01:37:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
01:37:42PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:37:44PM ALL IN FAVOR.
01:37:45PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
01:37:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
01:37:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
01:37:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
01:37:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
01:37:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
01:37:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
01:37:56PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
01:37:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.
01:38:07PM >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
01:38:09PM LIQUID CAUSTIC SODA IN THE AMOUNT OF 5.2 MILLION FOR USE AT
01:38:13PM THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND AIL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
01:38:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
01:38:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
01:38:25PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:38:28PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
01:38:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
01:38:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
01:38:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
01:38:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
01:38:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES CLERK MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
01:38:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM NUMBER 5.
01:38:48PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: JEAN DUNCAN, INFRASTRUCTURE MOBILITY.
01:38:50PM ITEM 5 IS WITH YOU WITH 3 AND 4 BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR
01:38:54PM AMOUNT.
01:38:55PM TWO CONTRACTS FOR ROADWAY RESURFACING AS WELL AS CITY WIDE
01:38:59PM ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS WHICH, OF COURSE, INCLUDE SAFE STREETS,
01:39:06PM ZERO PROJECTS.
01:39:06PM FOR $8.4 MILLION AND 8.6 MILLION RESPECTIVELY AND WE ARE
01:39:13PM HERE TO REQUEST YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THESE TWO CONTRACTS.
01:39:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OF MISS DUNCAN?
01:39:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
01:39:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:39:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DUNCAN, THIS IS HAPPENING IN ALL FOUR
01:39:28PM DISTRICTS AND A GOOD NUMBERS ON THE EVOs.
01:39:32PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, SIR.
01:39:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
01:39:35PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:39:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
01:39:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
01:39:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
01:39:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
01:39:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
01:39:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
01:39:45PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
01:39:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TO AGENDA ITEM 53.
01:39:50PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
01:40:01PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 53,REZ-22-24, LOCATION 411 WEST SAN
01:40:10PM CARLOS STREET.
01:40:11PM PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS-57 TO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.
01:40:17PM HAS BEEN TURNED INTO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND I'M HERE TO
01:40:21PM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
01:40:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HUSSEIN.
01:40:27PM PETITIONER.
01:40:29PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
01:40:31PM FOR THE RECORD.
01:40:33PM KEVIN REALI.
01:40:35PM EAST JACKSON STREET.
01:40:37PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
01:40:38PM THE FOURTH TIME THIS IS BEFORE YOU.
01:40:40PM NOT BECAUSE OF YOU REQUESTED ANY CHANGES, BUT PROCEDURAL
01:40:45PM ISSUES THAT THE RECORD HAD TO BE CORRECTED BETWEEN THE FIRST
01:40:50PM AND SECOND.
01:40:51PM THE RECORD WAS CORRECTED BUT THE APPLICATION ITSELF, THE
01:40:54PM SITE PLAN HAS REMAINED CONSISTENT.
01:40:56PM STAFF FINDING HAS REMAINED KENT SINCE THE FIRST READ.
01:41:00PM STAFF FOUND IT CONSISTENT IN EACH STEP.
01:41:04PM TWOCH TIMES COUNCIL HAS SUPPORTED YOU HAVE SUPPORTED THE
01:41:07PM ITEM.
01:41:08PM NO CHANGES AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND IF
01:41:11PM POSSIBLE RESERVE SOME OF OUR PRESENTATION TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
01:41:14PM I THINK REBUTTAL IS MORE APPROPRIATE TODAY.
01:41:16PM THANK YOU.
01:41:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTION FOR THE PETITIONER?
01:41:23PM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK PUBLIC COMMENT TO
01:41:27PM THIS AGENDA ITEM?
01:41:36PM IF THOSE GIVING PUBLIC COMMENT -- FORM A LINE FROM MY LEFT
01:41:45PM TO YOUR RIGHT.
01:41:45PM >> I HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM FOR THOMAS CONNOLLY, LARRY
01:41:58PM BELCHER, IF YOU RAISE YOUR HAND.
01:42:00PM AND DONNA VAN AN.
01:42:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES, CORRECT?
01:42:10PM FIVE?
01:42:11PM PLEASE PROCEED, SIR.
01:42:13PM >> MY NAME IS TOM CONNOLLY, PRESIDENT OF THE VIRGINIA PARK
01:42:18PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
01:42:18PM I'M HERE SPEAKING OF THAT CAPACITY WITH THE APPROVAL OF MY
01:42:22PM BOARD TO SUPPORT PALMA CEIA WEST.
01:42:25PM WHERE IS A PROCEDURE AND HOW IT IS DOCUMENTED HOW A
01:42:31PM PROCEDURE FOR ZONING IS VETTED.
01:42:34PM IN IN THE TAMPA MUNICIPAL CODE.
01:42:36PM TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THE ANSWER IS NO.
01:42:38PM MULTIPLE CONTACTS WITH THE CITY STAFF RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS
01:42:42PM TIME OF DETERMINATION.
01:42:44PM I NEVER HAVE BEEN RESPONDED WITH AN ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION.
01:42:48PM THE ONLY REFERENCE IN THE CITY CODE OF REEVALUATING A
01:42:52PM PETITION TO REZONE IS SECTION 27-11, CREATION OF NEW LOTS,
01:42:56PM REDUCTION OF LOTS AND LOTS BELOW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.
01:43:00PM THIS SECTION REQUIRES THE STAFF TO EXAMINE THE ESTABLISHED
01:43:03PM PATTERN OF LOTS BETWEEN 1320 FOOT.
01:43:06PM IT GOES ON TO STATE THAT THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR "SHALL"
01:43:11PM REVIEW THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN FOR A RADIUS OF 1320
01:43:15PM FEET FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
01:43:16PM NOWHERE IN 27-11 DOES IT MENTION A BLOCK FACE FOR
01:43:21PM CONSIDERATION OF A REQUIREMENT FOR PETITION TO REZONE.
01:43:24PM IT DOES, HOWEVER, REQUIRE AND MANDATE THE ZONING
01:43:28PM ADMINISTRATOR TO LOOK AT THE 1320 FOOT RADIUS.
01:43:32PM WHEN MY ASSOCIATION STARTED CONTESTING PETITIONS, USED A
01:43:36PM RED-BLUE MAP THAT WENT OUT NINE CITY BLOCKS TO REVIEW THE
01:43:39PM ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN -- HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE.
01:43:43PM GLORIA MOREDA WAS HEAD OF THE OFFICE AT THE TIME AND SAID IT
01:43:51PM WAS NOT PRACTICAL AND PRACTICABLE DUE TO TECHNICAL
01:43:58PM PERSONNEL.
01:43:58PM SHE EXAMINED THE RED-BLUE MAP.
01:44:01PM SEVERAL MEET WITH GLORIA, HER STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL,
01:44:06PM VIRGINIA PARK WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR STAFF TO APPLY WITH THE
01:44:09PM REQUIREMENT OF 1320-FOOT RADIUS.
01:44:13PM WITH THIS AND OTHER DISCUSSIONS OF RESPECT WITH REZONING,
01:44:18PM THE STAFF CAME UP WITH THE CURRENTLY USED MULTICOLOR MAP,
01:44:21PM EXISTING LOT FOR REZ XXX.
01:44:27PM BREAKS DOWN BY FIVE-FOOT INCREMENTS.
01:44:29PM AND STATES IN THE KEY ABOVE EXACTLY HOW MANY OF EACH
01:44:33PM FIVE-FOOT FRONTAGES COMPRISE THE AREA.
01:44:40PM THIS WAS DONE AS A COMPROMISE TO HELP VISUALIZE THE
01:44:44PM DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A REQUIRED ZONING FRONTAGE AND A
01:44:47PM PETITION.
01:44:47PM AS A RULE WE WILL NOT TYPICALLY CONTEST A PETITION OF
01:44:50PM REZONING IF IT IS WITHIN ONE OR TWO FOOT OF REQUIRED BECAUSE
01:44:53PM THAT IS NOT DISCERNIBLE TO THE NAKED EYE.
01:44:56PM WHAT IS MISSING IN THIS KEY AND USUALLY CONTAINED IN THE
01:44:59PM WRITTEN STAFF REPORT IS THE ACTUAL PERCENTAGES OF PARCELS
01:45:02PM THAT COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT ZONING.
01:45:04PM THOSE PARCELS THAT ARE EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN THE ZONING
01:45:08PM REQUIRED FRINGE.
01:45:09PM IN RES 22-24, THE PARCELS, THE ESTABLISHED PARCELS EQUAL TO
01:45:15PM OR GREATER THAN 75 FEET IS 70.5% OR 151 OF 214 PARCELS.
01:45:22PM THE PERCENTAGE OF NONCONFORMING LOTS THAT WERE GRANDFATHERED
01:45:26PM IN VIA THE 1927 CONFORMANCE IS 29.4%.
01:45:31PM 63 OUT OF 214.
01:45:33PM THIS SHOWS THAT THE EXISTING LOT PATTERN IS
01:45:38PM OVERWHELMINGLY RS-75 COMPLIANT WITH THE 75-FOOT OR LARGER
01:45:44PM FRONTAGE.
01:45:44PM ABBYE FEELEY REPORTED IN REPORT Z12-38 AND PURPOSE SUBC OF
01:45:53PM PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT OF APPROPRIATE IN
01:45:56PM LOCATION, CHARACTER, COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING
01:45:58PM IMPACT, NEIGHBORHOODS, BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND EXISTING
01:46:03PM GEOGRAPHY AND QUOTE FROM THAT REPORT, PURSUANT TO ANALYSIS
01:46:07PM OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS DISCUSSED ABOVE, THE PREDOMINANT
01:46:10PM DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA IS CONFORMING TO
01:46:13PM THE RS-75 ZONING DISTRICT WITH A LOT WIDTH OF 75 FOOT.
01:46:19PM AND IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
01:46:24PM OF THE SURROUNDING IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:46:26PM THE USE OF A PD REZONING REQUEST TO EFFECTIVELY BYPAS
01:46:32PM THE RS-75 ZONING REQUIREMENT AND INSERT TWO RS-50 ZONING,
01:46:39PM TWO ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS LOWER MAN IN REQUIRED AND NOT
01:46:43PM PERMITTED IN FUTURE LAND USE R-6 IN SECTION 27-21 MATRIX IS
01:46:52PM EGREGIOUS IN BLATANT OPERATION IN SECTION 27 ZONING AND LAND
01:46:58PM DEVELOPMENT.
01:46:58PM AND TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE OBVIOUS, THIS IS FROM THE PIMA MAP
01:47:06PM THING --
01:47:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE TURN THAT AROUND.
01:47:09PM >> SORRY.
01:47:09PM SHOWS ONLY LOTS IN COLOR THAT ARE LESS THAN 60 FOOT.
01:47:13PM EVERY OTHER ONE IS LARGER.
01:47:15PM IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THIS MAP SHOWS THE PREVAILING
01:47:18PM CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SUBJECT 1320 FEET.
01:47:23PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
01:47:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
01:47:26PM >> I ALSO HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM FOR CARROLL ANN
01:47:51PM BENNETT, MICHAEL FANNING AND BRYANT -- IS IT DIVINE?
01:47:55PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
01:47:55PM FIVE MINUTES.
01:48:03PM >> HELLO, MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
01:48:09PM AND A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
01:48:13PM I AM AN EXPERT ON MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND GIVING COMPETENT
01:48:19PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
01:48:20PM SOUTH TAMPA NEIGHBORHOODS OFTEN OPPOSE THIS.
01:48:22PM HOW OFTEN DO YOU SEE THIS KIND OF EFFORT.
01:48:24PM SIX COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
01:48:26PM THIS IS THEIR FOURTH HEARING.
01:48:28PM THERE ARE HUNDREDS AND EVEN THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE STANDING
01:48:31PM BEHIND US IN SOUTH TAMPA WHO FEEL THE WAY THAT WE FEEL.
01:48:35PM WE HAVE TAKEN THREE DIFFERENT SURVEYS IN VIRGINIA PARK ALONE
01:48:39PM AND 90% OF OUR RESIDENTS OPPOSE LOT SPLITS.
01:48:41PM WHEN DO YOU SEE 90% OF PEOPLE AGREE ON ANYTHING.
01:48:45PM IF YOU DON'T LIVE THERE, YOU WON'T UNDERSTAND IT, BUT THAT'S
01:48:49PM OKAY, AS LONG AS YOU RESPECT IT.
01:48:51PM NEIGHBORHOODS ARE UNIQUE AND CAN BE A MYSTERY TO OUTSIDERS,
01:48:55PM BUT WHAT DOES EVERY CITIZEN WANT MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE?
01:48:58PM THEY WANT TO BE HEARD.
01:48:59PM WHEN I GO INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD, I LISTEN.
01:49:03PM I DO NOT TELL THEM WHAT IS BEST FOR THEM.
01:49:06PM I LISTEN.
01:49:06PM COME INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:49:09PM TALK TO US.
01:49:10PM THE MOST IMPORTANTLY, LISTEN TO US AND RESPECT US.
01:49:13PM SOMEONE SAID THIS LAND IS UNDERUTILIZED.
01:49:17PM THAT ABSOLUTELY BLOWS MY MIND.
01:49:19PM IN 2016, LONG BEFORE THE HOUSING CRISIS, SOUTH TAMPA WAS
01:49:24PM GROUND ZERO FOR GROWTH.
01:49:25PM WE ARE DROWNING IN GROWTH.
01:49:26PM WE ARE IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAS AROUND AREA, A FLOOD PLAIN,
01:49:31PM EVACUATION ZONES AND FEMA FLOOD ZONES AND EVERY YEAR THE
01:49:35PM MAPS GET WORSE FOR US.
01:49:36PM WE ADDED 6300 APARTMENTS IN S.O.G. ALONE.
01:49:44PM DOESN'T COUNT THE APARTMENTS IN N.O.G. DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES
01:49:51PM AND QUADS.
01:49:52PM UNDERUTILIZED IT WOULD BE LAUGHABLE IF NOT IRRESPONSIBLE.
01:49:56PM THE MOST GROWTH IS IN THE VULNERABLE PART OF OUR CITY.
01:50:00PM DON'T TELL US OUR LAND IS UNDERUTILIZED.
01:50:06PM WE HAVE DONE MORE.
01:50:06PM IF THIS HAD NOT HAD YOU WOULDN'T MEET STEPHANIE POYNOR,
01:50:13PM CAWLEY DENO -- PROBABLY YOU WOULD HAVE STILL MET ME.
01:50:17PM EIGHT YEARS AGO A LOT SPLIT IN VIRGINIA PARK CAME BEFORE
01:50:21PM COUNCIL.
01:50:21PM THE STAFF FOUND IT INCONSISTENT AND COUNCIL VOTED NO.
01:50:24PM FOUR YEARS LATER, ANOTHER SPLIT ON THE SAME STREET.
01:50:27PM NOTHING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAD CHANGED, YET THIS TIME
01:50:31PM STAFF FOUND IT CONSISTENT.
01:50:32PM THE SAME DATA OPPOSITE VERDICTS.
01:50:36PM SOUND FAMILIAR?
01:50:38PM THERE WAS NO EXPLANATION FOR IT THEN JUST LIKE THERE IS NO
01:50:41PM EXPLANATION TODAY.
01:50:42PM THE BEST REASON STAFF CAME UP WITH WAS THIS IS MORE OF AN
01:50:46PM ART THAN A SCIENCE.
01:50:46PM THE COUNCIL DID NOT LIKE THAT POOR EXCUSE.
01:50:51PM THEY VOTED IT DOWN UNANIMOUSLY AND SAID THAT STAFF REPORTS
01:50:54PM MUST BE DEPENDABLE.
01:50:56PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, MANISCALCO AND MIRANDA, YOU ALL VOTED NO.
01:51:01PM AND YOU VOTED NO BECAUSE YOU SAID MUST BE CONSISTENCY AND
01:51:05PM RELIABILITY.
01:51:06PM HERE WE ARE AGAIN.
01:51:07PM AS YOGI BERRA WOULD SAY, DÉJÀ VU ALL OVER AGAIN.
01:51:13PM NO REASON WHY STAFF WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW WITH THE
01:51:19PM SAME FACTS.
01:51:20PM IT IS BASED ON THE BLOCK FACE, A STANDARD THAT DOES NOT
01:51:22PM EXIST FOR REZONINGS.
01:51:25PM HOW CAN YOU USE A STANDARD THAT DOES NOT EXIST?
01:51:28PM PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT ABBYE FEELEY'S MAP.
01:51:30PM THIS IS THE 2012 SUBJECT LOT.
01:51:37PM THIS IS THE LOT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
01:51:39PM THESE TWO LOTS AND EVERY LOT IN RED IS 75 FEET FOR GREATER
01:51:46PM AND CONFORMING.
01:51:47PM BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T HAVE THE SOFTWARE THEY HAVE TODAY, A
01:51:54PM SMALLER MAP AND HER NUMBERS AND PERCENTAGES ARE ACTUALLY
01:51:56PM LOWER THAN OURS, BUT SHE FOUND IT INCONSISTENT.
01:52:00PM WHY?
01:52:01PM I WILL LET MISS FEELEY TELL YOU.
01:52:03PM YOU HAVE THE TRANSCRIPT.
01:52:04PM THE PREDOMINANT IS 75 FEET OR GREATER, THE REDS.
01:52:08PM 58% HAD 75 FEET OF FRONTAGE.
01:52:11PM IN A LARGER AREA, 62% OF THEM WERE CONFORMING TO RS-75.
01:52:15PM EVERYTHING IN THE BLUES THAT I SHOWED YOU WERE 1950, 55, 51.
01:52:21PM STAFF FOUND THIS REQUEST FOR THE LOT SPLIT TO BE
01:52:24PM INCONSISTENT WITH THE AREA.
01:52:26PM STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT BASED ON THE EXISTING
01:52:30PM DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE AREA.
01:52:32PM I SEEK TO IMPLORE THE SAME STANDARD OF REVIEW THAT I DO ON
01:52:36PM EACH AND EVERY CASE.
01:52:38PM THE REDS OUTWEIGH THE BLUES, SO THAT'S WHAT I PRESENT TO
01:52:41PM YOU.
01:52:41PM SIMPLE, LOGICAL, FAIR.
01:52:43PM THE REDS OUTWEIGH THE BLUES.
01:52:46PM REJECTED THE ART AND EMBRACED THE SCIENCE.
01:52:50PM THAT IS HOW YOU GET CONSISTENCY, FAIRNESS AND CREDIBILITY.
01:52:54PM THIS COUNCIL MUST NOT SETTLE FOR LESS THAN THE PREVIOUS
01:52:58PM COUNCIL.
01:52:59PM THANK YOU.
01:53:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
01:53:11PM I NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
01:53:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM THAT HAVE YET TO BE
01:53:16PM SWORN IN?
01:53:17PM PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND -- [SWEARING IN]
01:53:38PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: HINES DUFFER.
01:53:43PM RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU ARE IN THE ROOM.
01:53:45PM PAULA PERRY, TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES.
01:53:54PM >>> NELSON BOSQUE.
01:54:11PM DEAR COUNCILMEMBERS.
01:54:13PM BECAUSE OF THE FORMAT OF THE HEARINGS WE WERE NOT ABLE TO
01:54:16PM COMMENT AFTER THE CITIZENS SPOKE ON AUGUST 4.
01:54:18PM TODAY YOU WILL HEAR FROM VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY
01:54:25PM AND CITY PLANNING AFTER THE PRESENTATION BY ZAIN HUSSEIN.
01:54:27PM WE REALIZED THAT YOU RELY ON CITY PLANNING AND ZAIN'S
01:54:32PM PRESENTATIONS TO MAKE YOUR DECISION.
01:54:33PM MR. ZAIN HUSSEIN HAS OVERLOOKED OR CHOSEN TO OMIT SOME FACTS
01:54:38PM IN HIS PRESENTATION.
01:54:38PM IF FELT TO THE COMMUNITY ARIZONA MR. HUSSEIN WAS STEERING
01:54:45PM COUNCIL AND PURPOSELY OMITTING FACTS.
01:54:47PM ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS, HIS EXPLANATION OF THE COMMUNITY, ZAIN
01:54:51PM MENTIONS THAT THE THREE LOTS TO THE NORTH HAVE A FRONTAGE OF
01:54:54PM 55, 55, AND 57.86.
01:54:57PM WHAT HE FAILS TO TELL YOU IS THAT THE QUARTER OF A MILE AND
01:55:03PM 214 PROPERTIES ARE REQUIRED TO BE CONSIDERED.
01:55:06PM THERE ARE LESS THAN 5% OF THE LOTS WITH A FRONTAGE OF 55
01:55:11PM FEET.
01:55:12PM MR. HUSSEIN TALKS ABOUT THE REQUEST BEING COMPATIBLE WITH
01:55:18PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:55:19PM THIS IS CAUSING CONFUSION WITH CITY COUNCIL.
01:55:21PM WHAT ZAIN IS SAYING IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE FACT AND
01:55:25PM TODAY WE WILL ADDRESS FACTS.
01:55:27PM WE ARE CITIZENS AND WE REALIZE THAT YOU HAVE RELIED ON MR.
01:55:32PM HUSSEIN TO MAKE YOUR DECISION.
01:55:33PM FOR EXAMPLE, MR. GUDES, IN THE LAST HEARING, YOU WERE
01:55:36PM ANALYZING THE MAP AND READ OFF OF THE FRONTAGES OF 162, 78,
01:55:40PM 113, 110, 110, 103, 100, 100, 108, 104, 100, 100, 94, 116,
01:55:51PM 103.
01:55:52PM NONE MEASURED 55.
01:55:54PM CLEAR THAT YOU WERE BEING TOLD THAT THE REQUEST WAS
01:55:57PM COMPATIBLE, BUT WHAT YOU WERE SEEING DID NOT INDICATE THAT.
01:56:00PM QUESTIONED ZAIN OF THE COMPATIBLE, HE SAID WHEN STAFF WAS
01:56:08PM ANALYZE THIS.
01:56:08PM I -- YOU ARE LOOKING AT BLOCK HERE AND THE BLOCK FACE FROM
01:56:12PM SOUTH CAMERON AS TO SEE THOSE LOTS TO THE NORTH AND ALSO TO
01:56:15PM THE EAST.
01:56:16PM YOU WILL SEE THAT COMPATIBILITY.
01:56:17PM THAT WAS A QUOTE.
01:56:18PM IT IS UNCLEAR WHY ZAIN WOULD NOT HAVE HELPED YOU WITH YOUR
01:56:23PM ANALYSIS AND WOULDN'T HAVE ALSO MENTIONED THAT THE LOT IN
01:56:26PM QUESTION IS 110 FEET LIKE THE OTHER LOT SIZES YOU WERE
01:56:30PM READING OFF 55 IS NOT A STANDARD FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND NOR
01:56:35PM ANALYSIS.
01:56:37PM HIS RESPONSE BROUGHT YOU BACK TO ONLY FOCUS ON CAMERON AND
01:56:41PM DID NOT -- DID NOT ALLOW YOU TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE 214
01:56:45PM PARCELS.
01:56:45PM THE TAMPA CODE SAYS A QUARTER MILE.
01:56:47PM DOES NOT SAY BLOCK FACE.
01:56:49PM BUT STAFF AND COUNCIL, BASED ON DECISION OF BLOCK FACE,
01:56:54PM WHICH DOES NOT EXIST IN THE CITY CODE FOR REZONINGS.
01:56:56PM MISS HURTAK, I AM GOING -- YOU SAID, I AM GOING TO STICK
01:57:01PM WITH THE WHOLE MAP SCENARIO BECAUSE WHAT I DID WHILE
01:57:05PM LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS AND SAYING THAT THIS LOT CONFORMS
01:57:07PM TO THE REST OF IT ALL, WELL, I COUNTED AND ONLY 11 LOTS IN
01:57:12PM THE ENTIRE AREA THAT ARE 110 OR WIDER.
01:57:14PM SO LOT SPLITTING TO ME A, THE BLOCK FACE FITS.
01:57:18PM B, SO FEW LOTS THAT ARE THIS SIZE THAT I DON'T SEE -- I
01:57:23PM DON'T SEE THE ARGUMENT HERE.
01:57:24PM MISS HURTAK, THE MAP THAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO, WHICH YOU
01:57:28PM HAVE A COPY OF, ALSO INDICATES THAT LESS 5% OF THE LOTS ARE
01:57:35PM 55 FEET.
01:57:36PM 95% OF THE LOTS ARE LARGER THAN 55 FEET.
01:57:40PM WE ASK YOU TO PLEASE LOOK AT THE MAP AND REALIZE THAT 185
01:57:43PM LOTS IN THE SAMPLE ARE GREATER THAN 65 FEET.
01:57:46PM THE GREAT MAJORITY ARE OVER 75 FEET.
01:57:49PM THAT IS WHAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS LIKE.
01:57:52PM NOT SMALL 55-FOOT LOTS.
01:57:54PM YOU ALSO QUESTIONED ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS OF RS-75
01:58:00PM REQUIREMENTS AND IF THE LOT REQUIRED TO BE 7500 SQUARE FEET.
01:58:04PM AGAIN, A 7500-STARE-FOOT LOT IN THIS COMMUNITY AND SAMPLE IS
01:58:10PM NOT A TYPICAL HOT.
01:58:11PM ONLY TYPICAL ON THIS STREET.
01:58:13PM WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK BEYOND THIS STREET AND FOUR PARCELS AND
01:58:16PM CONSIDER THE ENTIRE AREA OF A QUARTER OF MILE AND 214
01:58:23PM PARCELS.
01:58:24PM YOUR LAST QUESTION.
01:58:25PM IF THIS -- I QUOTE, IF THIS PETITIONER BUILT WHAT THEY WANT
01:58:29PM A CONNECTOR TO MAKE IT ONE HOUSE, IT WOULD STILL BE LEGAL,
01:58:32PM RIGHT?
01:58:33PM YOU ALSO ASKED IF THEY BUILT ONE LARGE 10,000-SQUARE-FOOT
01:58:37PM LOT ON ONE LOT, IF THAT WAS LEGAL.
01:58:39PM THE SIZE, TYPE AND STYLE OF HOME IS NOT WHAT IS IN QUESTION.
01:58:42PM WHAT IS IN QUESTION IF THE PETITIONER SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO
01:58:46PM REZONE THIS PARCEL OR NOT.
01:58:48PM KEEP IN MIND, WE HAD RESIDENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT DATE
01:58:51PM BACK TO THE 1950s.
01:58:53PM NOT A SINGLE REZONING HAS EVER BEEN APPROVED.
01:58:56PM WE KINDLY ASK THAT YOU LOOK BEYOND THE FOUR PARCELS ON THE
01:59:00PM STREET.
01:59:01PM MR. MIRANDA, THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY WANT TO THANK YOU
01:59:03PM FOR ADMITTING THAT YOU ORIGINALLY MISREAD THE COMPLEX
01:59:07PM INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THE FIRST HEARING.
01:59:10PM WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE PICTURE OF
01:59:13PM QUARTER OF MILE RATHER THAN THREE PARCELS ON THIS PARTICULAR
01:59:17PM STREET.
01:59:17PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
01:59:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
01:59:19PM PROCEED.
01:59:54PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
01:59:55PM MY NAME IS KATHLEEN DUFFER.
01:59:59PM I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT IN SOUTH TAMPA FOR 20 YEARS.
02:00:01PM IN MY HOME NOW AT 15 YEARS.
02:00:05PM I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CARLSON AND MANISCALCO
02:00:13PM FOR THEIR NO VOTE ON THE READING IN THE FIRST REPORT.
02:00:16PM I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO RESPECT OUR CITY ZONING LAWS.
02:00:24PM YOU HAVE THE DOCUMENT.
02:00:27PM PLEASE READ ALONG WITH US.
02:00:29PM SECTION 27-11.
02:00:32PM CREATION OF NEW LOTS, REDUCTION OF LOT DIMENSIONS BELOW
02:00:39PM MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.
02:00:40PM NO LOT, NO NEW LOT SHALL BE CREATED EXCEPT IN CONFORMITY
02:00:47PM WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF APPLICABLE REGULATIONS.
02:00:51PM THESE NEW LOTS DO NOT CONFORM TO THE RS-75 MINIMUM
02:00:57PM REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN THE LAW FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD
02:01:01PM SINCE 1950s.
02:01:02PM THE ONLY LOTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE 55 WIDE WERE
02:01:08PM DEVELOPED OVER 60 YEARS AGO.
02:01:10PM THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN.
02:01:12PM NOT A SINGLE 55 LOT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED SINCE THE 75 MINIMUM
02:01:18PM REQUIREMENT WAS ENACTED IN 1950.
02:01:20PM NO ONE HAS BROKEN THE LAW YET.
02:01:24PM NO YARD OR ZONING LOT SHALL BE REDUCED IN WIDTH, DEPTH AND
02:01:32PM AREA BELOW THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR LOTS AS SET FORTH IN
02:01:35PM THIS CHAPTER.
02:01:36PM THIS CHAPTER SETS A MINIMUM 75-FOOT REQUIREMENT.
02:01:42PM RS-75 REQUIRES 75 FEET.
02:01:46PM THE NEXT LOWER IS RS-60, WHICH REQUIRES 60 FEET.
02:01:51PM THESE 55 LOTS DON'T EVEN MEET THAT -- THAT MINIMUM
02:01:56PM REQUIREMENT.
02:01:56PM THESE 55 LOTS MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF THE RS-50.
02:02:01PM THAT IS TWO WHOLE ZONING SIZES SMALLER.
02:02:07PM NO DIVISION OF AN EXISTING ZONE -- ZONING LOT OR LOT OF
02:02:12PM RECORD MAY OCCUR.
02:02:14PM THAT IS CONFIGURATION WHICH IS INCONSISTENT WITH EXISTING
02:02:19PM LOT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN A RADIUS OF 1320 FEET.
02:02:24PM ONE QUARTER OF A MILE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
02:02:28PM THE MUNICIPAL CODE SAYS 1320 FEET DOES NOT SAY BLOCK FACE.
02:02:34PM BUT THE STAFF REPORT IS ON THE BLOCK FACE WHICH IS A
02:02:41PM STANDARD THAT DOES NOT EXIST IN OUR CITY CODE FOR REZONINGS.
02:02:47PM CITY COUNCIL REQUIRES YOU TO BASE YOUR DECISION ON THE CODE.
02:02:50PM THE STAFF MAP IS 1320 FEET.
02:02:54PM IT SHOWS ONLY 10%.
02:02:55PM PLEASE CONSIDER THE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
02:03:00PM THANK YOU.
02:03:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
02:03:02PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I AM PATRICIA EMBRY.
02:03:18PM I AM A RESIDENT OF STANDING LIVING 150 FEET FROM THE SUBJECT
02:03:23PM PROPERTY.
02:03:25PM I HAVE LIVED THERE WITH MY HUSBAND MIKE FOR -- GOING ON 50
02:03:30PM YEARS.
02:03:30PM AND I JOIN MY MANY NEIGHBORS IN OPPOSING THE REZONING FOR
02:03:37PM THE REASONS THAT ARE LISTED HERE.
02:03:39PM I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE QUOTING THE CODE.
02:03:42PM NEWLY CREATED LOTS MUST MAINTAIN THE HISTORICAL PRECEDENT
02:03:47PM PATTERN OF PARCEL CONFIGURATION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:03:50PM WE BELIEVE THE HISTORICAL PRECEDENT PATTERN OF PARCEL
02:03:57PM CONFIGURATION IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER 50 YEARS HAS NO
02:04:01PM -- OVER 60 YEARS HAS NO 55-FOOT LOTS.
02:04:05PM IT HAS BEEN 100% IN CONFORMANCE TO THE REQUIREMENT OF LARGE
02:04:09PM LOTS FOR 60 YEARS.
02:04:12PM QUOTING LOTS OF RECORD MAY NOT BE RECONFIGURED IN CONFLICT
02:04:20PM WITH THE ESTABLISHED PATTERN OF LOTS WITHIN A RADIUS OF 1320
02:04:26PM FEET.
02:04:26PM THREE TIMES THE CITY CODE IN THE CITY CODE, IT SAYS YOU MUST
02:04:30PM CONSIDER THE PATTERN 1320 FEET.
02:04:33PM IT DOES NOT SAY BLOCK FACE IS THE WORD "BLOCK FACE" IS NOT
02:04:41PM IN THE CITY CODE OR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR REZONINGS.
02:04:45PM CITY COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO BASE THEIR VOTE ON THE WORDS ON
02:04:49PM THE CODE.
02:04:49PM QUOTING THE CREATION OF SUB STANDARD LOT SIZE WILL CREATE
02:04:54PM EACH NEW LOT CREATED FROM THE ORIGINAL PARCEL TO BE A
02:04:57PM VIOLATION OF THIS CHAPTER.
02:05:03PM WE SAY THESE 55 LOTS ARE SUBSTANDARD OF THE CODE AND A
02:05:08PM VIOLATION OF CHAPTER 27-11.
02:05:10PM PLAN HILLSBOROUGH URBAN, 18.14.10 AND TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
02:05:18PM LAND USE POLICY 8.14.2 SAY TO CONSERVE PHYSICAL AS PETS THAT
02:05:25PM CONTRIBUTE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD'S DESIRED CHARACTER.
02:05:29PM AND TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE POLICY 9.38.
02:05:35PM THAT THE INTENT OF THE CITY THAT NEW REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS
02:05:40PM SHALL BE MINIMALLY DISRUPTIVE TO ADJACENT AREAS.
02:05:43PM TO ACHIEVE THIS, THE CITY SHALL ASSESS THE POTENTIAL
02:05:46PM POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
02:05:49PM PROJECTS AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
02:05:53PM WE, THE RESIDENTS, FEEL THAT WE ARE THE EXPERTS IN THE
02:05:58PM CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:05:59PM WE HAVE GIVEN COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THESE
02:06:04PM 55-FOOT LOTS WILL HAVE A VERY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE
02:06:09PM DEVELOPMENT OF PATTERN AND CHARACTER IN THE SURROUNDING
02:06:11PM AREA.
02:06:12PM WHEN THERE IS THIS MUCH OVERWHELMING NEIGHBORHOOD
02:06:15PM OPPOSITION, IT IS PROOF THAT IT WILL NOT BE MINIMALLY
02:06:19PM DISRUPTIVE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:06:21PM THANK YOU.
02:06:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
02:06:32PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, ANITA COMACHO, SAN MIGUEL STREET ON THE
02:06:37PM CORNER OF CAMERON AND MIGUEL TWO DOORS DOWN FROM SUBJECT
02:06:42PM PROPERTY.
02:06:42PM LIVED IN SOUTH TAMPA FOR 20 YEARS AND THIS HOUSE FOR SEVEN.
02:06:45PM I AM GOING TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE -- WHERE WE LEFT OFF
02:06:49PM HERE.
02:06:49PM LAND USE POLICY 9.5.1, PROTECT LOW DENSITY SINGLE-FAMILY
02:06:55PM AREAS THAT ARE ATTRACTIVE TO HOUSEHOLDS WITH CHILDREN AND
02:06:58PM OTHER RESIDENTS THAT PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH PRIVACY AND OPEN
02:07:04PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
02:07:05PM THIS VERY NEIGHBORHOOD IS GREEN SPACES AND SHADY TREES.
02:07:09PM I HAVE FIVE TREES ON MY PROPERTY AND I, UNFORTUNATELY, ARE
02:07:13PM AM ONE OF THE BLUE LOTS.
02:07:14PM THAT IS WHY WE CHOSE IT.
02:07:16PM LIVE OAKS ARE ESSENTIAL TO OUR HEALTH AND SAFETY AND REQUIRE
02:07:20PM A 20 FOOT RADIUS MINIMUM FOR THEIR ROOTS.
02:07:23PM NOT ANY ON THIS LOT, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, BUT ROOM TO PLANT
02:07:28PM SOME.
02:07:28PM NO ROOM FOR LIVE OAKS ON A 55-FOOT LOT.
02:07:31PM IF YOU APPROVE IT, DEVELOPER ALSO SWARM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
02:07:37PM SPLIT OUR LOTS AND TAKE AWAY MORE TREES.
02:07:39PM HIGHER ELECTRIC BILL, FLOODING, DIRTY AIR, CLIMATE CHANGE
02:07:45PM AND MUCH MORE.
02:07:45PM 9.5.2.
02:07:47PM MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
02:07:51PM THE CHARACTER OF SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS INCLUDE DENSITY
02:07:54PM CHARACTERISTICS.
02:07:54PM AND LAND USE POLICY 9.5.4, MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF
02:08:03PM SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS AND PROTECT AREAS OF LOWER DENSITY OF
02:08:06PM DEVELOPMENT.
02:08:06PM THIS WILL CHANGE THE CHARACTER AND DENSITY OF OU
02:08:09PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU WILL GUARANTEE MORE LOT SPLITS TO COME.
02:08:12PM LAND USE POLICY 13.2.6, COMMUNITY'S DESIRE OF CHARACTER TO
02:08:18PM BE CONSIDERED.
02:08:18PM A DETAILED ANALYSIS IS 1320 FEET.
02:08:22PM LAND USE POLICY 1.2.28 LIMIT THE USE OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
02:08:27PM REDISTRICT PETITIONS.
02:08:29PM USING A PD TO WORK AROUND THE CODE.
02:08:32PM THIS PROJECT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS EUCLIDIAN ZONING
02:08:36PM OF RS-50.
02:08:37PM THEY DON'T NEED TO USE A PD.
02:08:40PM IF THEY REJOIN, THEY DON'T NEED ANY WAIVERS AND RS-50 IS NOT
02:08:44PM ALLOWED IN A R-6 LAND USE.
02:08:49PM THE NEXT BIGGEST IS RS-60 BUT NOT ALLOWED EITHER.
02:08:56PM YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS PROJECT IS 100% CONSISTENT
02:08:59PM WITH RS-50 ZONING NOT ALLOWED IN R-6 LAND USE.
02:09:05PM IT WILL LOOK EXACTLY LIKE A RS-50 LOT.
02:09:10PM YOU CAN SEE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
02:09:11PM PUTTING THE LETTERS PD ON A PIECE OF PAPER DOES NOT
02:09:16PM CHALLENGE WHAT IT WILL BE, A RS-50 ZONING IN A RS-75
02:09:21PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:09:21PM RESPECT TAMPA'S NATURAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE CITY CHANGES AS
02:09:27PM A EVOLVES.
02:09:28PM IF YOU APPROVE IT, EVERYBODY KNOWS YOU DO NOT EXPECT OUR
02:09:32PM NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND COMMUNITY IDENTITY.
02:09:34PM WE ARE NO, MA'AM COULD THE AM IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SAY WE NO
02:09:39PM HE MORE.
02:09:40PM DON'T COME INTO OUR AND TELL US YOU KNOW MORE THAN US.
02:09:43PM WE KNOW MORE AND YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO US.
02:09:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
02:09:52PM >> LAURIE McMAHON.
02:09:54PM I LIVE AT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE ADDRESS IN QUESTION.
02:09:58PM AND I AM GOING TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE
02:10:03PM ARE PROVIDING TO YOU.
02:10:04PM THE TAMPA CODE SAYS 1320 FEET.
02:10:07PM IT DOES NOT SAY "BLOCK FACE" WHICH IS A STANDARD THAT DOES
02:10:12PM NOT EXIST IN THE CITY CODE FOR REZONINGS.
02:10:16PM LAND USE POLICY 1.2.3, RELATE NEW BUILDINGS AND DEVELOPMENTS
02:10:21PM TO THE CONTEXT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY.
02:10:23PM THIS IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE CONTEXT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
02:10:26PM OR COMMUNITY.
02:10:27PM LAND USE POLICY 1.2.5, ENCOURAGE POSITIVE CHANGE WHILE
02:10:34PM PROTECTING TAMPA'S TRADITIONAL CHARACTER WHERE APPLICABLE.
02:10:37PM THIS IS NOT POSITIVE CHANGE AND DOES NOT PROTECT THE
02:10:41PM TRADITIONAL 60-YEAR CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:10:44PM LAND USE POLICY 1.2.10.
02:10:47PM ENSURE THAT DEVELOPMENT -- ENSURE THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT
02:10:51PM DESIGN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCES THEIR DISTINCTIVE
02:10:56PM NATURAL HISTORIC CHARACTERISTICS.
02:10:57PM WE ARE THE EXPERTS.
02:10:58PM NO ONE ELSE.
02:10:59PM THIS ENHANCES NOTHING.
02:11:00PM LAND USE POLICY 1.2.16.
02:11:04PM PROMOTE PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENTS OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY, WHICH
02:11:08PM EMPHASIZE THE SPECIAL IDENTITY OF EACH OF THE CITIES
02:11:13PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
02:11:13PM FOR 100 YEARS, THE SPECIAL IDENTITY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS
02:11:18PM BEEN LARGE LOTS, ROOM FOR CHILDREN TO PLAY, BIG SPREADING OF
02:11:22PM TREES AND LOTS OF GREEN SPACE.
02:11:24PM LITTLE TRAFFIC AND LOTS OF PEACE AND QUIET.
02:11:27PM LAND USE POLICY 1.2.28.
02:11:30PM THE CITY PLANNING STRATEGY.
02:11:32PM KEEPING FOR THE VISION OF A MORE LIVABLE CITY, FUTURE GROWTH
02:11:36PM WILL BE STEERED TO AREAS AND LOCATION THAT ARE WELL DELVED
02:11:40PM SI TRANSIT.
02:11:42PM GROWTH AREAS LOCATION WITH GOOD TRANSIT ACCESS CAN BE
02:11:45PM PROVIDED ALONG BUS AND FUTURE RAIL TRANSIT ROUTES AND FUTURE
02:11:50PM TRANSIT STATIONS.
02:11:51PM THE FOUR GROWTH AREAS ARE EMPLOYMENT CENTERS, URBAN
02:11:57PM VILLAGES, MIXED USE CORRIDORS AND CENTERS.
02:11:59PM TRANSIT STATION AREAS.
02:12:01PM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT WELL SERVED BY TRANSIT.
02:12:04PM NOT AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
02:12:05PM NOT AN URBAN VILLAGE.
02:12:08PM NOT A MIXED USE CORRIDOR.
02:12:10PM NOT A TRANSIT STATIONARY.
02:12:11PM IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD TO PROVIDES ROOM FOR A TREE CANOPY.
02:12:15PM TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY AND PLANNING
02:12:18PM DISTRICTS FOCUS ON FUTURE GROWTH THE VISION MAP SHOW WHERE
02:12:28PM IS HIGHER DENSITY SHOULD OCCUR, WHERE NEIGHBORHOODS WILL
02:12:32PM REMAIN UNCHANGED AND STABLE.
02:12:34PM SIX LEVELS OF INTENSITY TO INDICATE.
02:12:37PM SOUTH TAMPA IS LEVEL ONE.
02:12:39PM NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
02:12:41PM ESTABLISHED AREA.
02:12:42PM SOUTH TAMPA CHARACTERISTICS.
02:12:43PM ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITIES THAT WILL BE COMPROMISED BY
02:12:47PM URBANIZATION.
02:12:49PM LIMITED ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES THAT WILL BE
02:12:51PM RESOURCE INEFFICIENT.
02:12:54PM LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE MORE COMMUNITY FACILITIES.
02:12:57PM FLOOD PRONE LAND.
02:13:01PM THANK YOU.
02:13:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
02:13:03PM >> MY NAME IS PAM CANELLA.
02:13:29PM 4012 SAN RAFAEL.
02:13:31PM THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATES THREE GOALS NECESSARY
02:13:36PM FOR RESPONSIBLE GROWTH.
02:13:37PM NUMBER ONE IS PUBLIC SAFETY.
02:13:39PM CONTRARY TO STAFF REPORT THAT THERE ARE NO ADVERSE IMPACTS
02:13:46PM ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PROPOSAL OF TWO MASSIVE
02:13:50PM HOMES WHERE THERE WAS ONLY ONE HOME DOES IMPACT THE ADJACENT
02:13:56PM NEIGHBORS AND CREATES A HARDSHIP FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS.
02:13:59PM THE NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE IMPACTED BY TWO FAMILIES, AND
02:14:03PM INCREASING CARS, WHICH INCREASES TRAFFIC.
02:14:06PM ALL IN ONE CORNER OF SAN CARLOS AND SOUTH CAMERON.
02:14:11PM JEOPARDIZING THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN WHO WALK OR RIDE
02:14:16PM THEIR BICYCLE TO SCHOOL AND ITS RESIDENCE.
02:14:20PM SECOND IS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
02:14:22PM AS WE KNOW IT IS INADEQUATE AND CANNOT EFFICIENTLY SUPPORT
02:14:29PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
02:14:30PM OUR STATUTE REQUIRES THAT THE CITY PROVIDE THAT PUBLIC
02:14:35PM FACILITIES AND SERVICES MEET OR EXCEED THE STANDARDS
02:14:39PM NECESSARY FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
02:14:40PM OUR CITY IS BEHIND IN ITS EFFORTS.
02:14:43PM IN MY 30-PLUS YEARS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, NOTHING HAS BEEN
02:14:47PM DONE.
02:14:47PM THESE PICTURES SHOW THE RETENTION POND IN FRONT OF MY
02:14:52PM PROPERTY WHICH DRAINS INTO A DRAINAGE DITCH ON PALMYRA AT
02:14:56PM THE END OF SOUTH CAMERON.
02:14:57PM THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THIS AREA BETWEEN THE TWO.
02:15:00PM AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING AND
02:15:06PM INCONSISTENT WITH 9.2.1 AND 9.3.8.
02:15:09PM NUMBER THREE IS MOBILITY THAT INCLUDES OUR BUSES HAVE
02:15:12PM SIDEWALKS AND BIKE LANES.
02:15:13PM ALTHOUGH TRANSIT STOP IS ONE-HALF MILE EAST OF THE PROPERTY,
02:15:17PM OUR BUSES ARE INADEQUATE.
02:15:18PM THEY ARE TIME CONSUMING AND ONLY RUN HOURLY AND ONLY 1% OF
02:15:23PM THE WORKING PUBLIC USE THEM.
02:15:24PM THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS ON SAN CARLOS TO THE BUS STOP, MAKING
02:15:29PM IT NOT EASILY ACCESSIBLE.
02:15:30PM THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES IN THIS AREA.
02:15:33PM TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING, THE CITY POPULATION, OUR CITY HAS
02:15:38PM NOT EXPERIENCING A LACK OF HOUSING BUT A LACK OF ATTAINABLE
02:15:42PM HOUSING.
02:15:43PM THESE TWO PROPOSED HOMES DO NOT GET THAT CRITERIA AND LIMITS
02:15:47PM THE PUBLIC THAT CAN AFFORD THEM.
02:15:49PM THEREFORE, INCONSISTENT WITH LAND USE OBJECTIVE 9.2, POLICY
02:15:54PM 1.1.16, AND 9.2.1.
02:15:58PM THIS IS NOT A VACANT LOT.
02:16:00PM THE HOME WAS DEMOLISHED DUE TO OWNERS LACK OF MAINTENANCE
02:16:05PM AND VIOLATION OF ORDINANCE CHAPTER 19.
02:16:07PM THERE ARE NO VACANT LOTS.
02:16:09PM NOR UNDERUTILIZED LAND IN NEED OF INFILL.
02:16:12PM THIS IS A STABLE AND ECONOMICALLY SOUND AREA WHICH MAKES
02:16:17PM HOUSING POLICY 1.3.4, LAND USE POLICY 2.1.2.
02:16:22PM 9.3.8.
02:16:24PM 9.5.1 AND 9.5.3 INCONSISTENT.
02:16:29PM THANK YOU.
02:16:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
02:16:31PM >> I WILL GIVE YOU THESE PICTURES.
02:16:48PM >> MAY I PROCEED.
02:16:49PM GREETINGS, MY NAME IS MIKE EMBRY.
02:16:52PM MY WIFE AND I, PATRICIA, WHO SPOKE PREVIOUSLY.
02:16:56PM WE LIVE ON CORNER OF SAN CARLOS AND CLARK.
02:17:00PM WE LIVE THERE FOR EVERY 50 YEARS -- AND WE ARE ABOUT 150
02:17:10PM FEET AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
02:17:11PM AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT GIVES US STANDING.
02:17:18PM I WANT TO GO ON RECORD THAT BOTH MY WIFE AND I ARE OPPOSED
02:17:28PM TO THIS VARIANCE BEING PROPOSED ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
02:17:32PM THESE ARE SOME OF MY REASONS WHY.
02:17:34PM THE -- MAKING THE ACCEPTANCE OF THIS VARIANCE IN OUR RS-75
02:17:43PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:17:43PM FOR ONE PROPERTY ONLY, IT WILL LEAD TO OTHER EXCEPTIONS IN
02:17:48PM THE FUTURE.
02:17:49PM LOT SPLITTING WILL BECOME A NEW PRECEDENT IN OUR PALMA CEIA
02:17:56PM WEST NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD IN TAMPA AND
02:18:00PM ALSO THE NEIGHBORHOODS -- OUR NEIGHBORING NEIGHBORHOODS WITH
02:18:05PM PALMA CEIA, HYDE PARK AND DAVIS ISLAND.
02:18:09PM EVERY BUILDER AND THEIR ATTORNEYS WHEN THEY GET WIND OF THIS
02:18:18PM WILL START APPLYING FOR VARIANCES.
02:18:19PM WE KNOW THIS.
02:18:20PM I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CITY COUNCIL, BUT YOU PROBABLY WON'T
02:18:23PM BE ABLE TO ANSWER, BUT WHAT WOULD PREVENT A BUILDER FROM
02:18:30PM GOING INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND BUYING
02:18:34PM TWO RS-75 HOUSES RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND COMING BACK TO
02:18:37PM THIS CITY COUNCIL AND ASK FOR A VARIANCE TO BUILD
02:18:48PM THREE RS-50 HOMES.
02:18:49PM THEY WILL BE BASICALLY USING THE SAME ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE
02:18:52PM BEEN PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY FOR THE VARIOUS WE ARE TALKING
02:18:56PM ABOUT.
02:18:56PM SADLY, IF THIS VARIANCE IS ALLOWED, THERE WILL BE NO FIRE
02:19:05PM WALL AGAINST THIS FROM HAPPENING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
02:19:08PM MY WIFE AND I ON A PERSONAL NOTE PURCHASED OUR HOME LONG AGO
02:19:13PM AFTER GRADUATING FROM USF.
02:19:18PM WE ONLY INTENDED TO BE THERE FOR A FEW YEARS.
02:19:21PM WE WANTED TO FOLLOW ALL OF OUR PEERS TO CARROLLWOOD WHICH
02:19:26PM WAS THE CUSTOM AT THE TIME.
02:19:28PM SOMETHING HAPPENED.
02:19:28PM WE FELL IN LOVE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:19:30PM AND WE DECIDED TO STAY.
02:19:32PM AND I AM RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
02:19:34PM BUT I WILL MAKE THIS SHORT.
02:19:36PM EVERY FAMILY IN PALMA CEIA EXPERIENCED WHAT WE HAVE.
02:19:42PM AND WE WANT TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE IT IS.
02:19:45PM TO QUOTE A GREAT ONE, THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE
02:19:48PM MANY OF A FEW.
02:19:48PM AND WE WOULD HOPE CITY COUNCIL WOULD JOIN WITH US IN OPPOSE
02:19:56PM THIS VARIANCE.
02:19:57PM THANK YOU.
02:19:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
02:19:59PM >> HI, I AM JOANNE McNABB, A RESIDENT OF PALMA CEIA WEST FOR
02:20:19PM 43 YEARS.
02:20:20PM I AN ENDED ALL THE HEARINGS RECORD THIS REZONING.
02:20:23PM PALMA CEIA WEST HAVE RESIDENTS THAT LIVED IN THE SAME
02:20:26PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAME HOUSE FOR DECADES.
02:20:28PM SOME HAVE REACHED OUTS TO US TO SPEAK FOR THEM IN THE
02:20:31PM OPPOSITION.
02:20:31PM ONE COUPLE MARRIED 65 YEARS NEXT MAY LIVES ON CAMERON
02:20:36PM AVENUE.
02:20:37PM THE HUSBAND TOLD US HE ALWAYS CALLED THE STREET CAMELOT AS
02:20:40PM THAT IS WHAT IT HAS BEEN TO THEM.
02:20:42PM THEY ARE CONCERNED HOW THINGS WILL CHANGE IF THIS PARCEL IS
02:20:45PM DIVIDED AND DENSITY INCREASED THERE.
02:20:48PM ANOTHER 89-YEAR-OLD CALLED TO ASK ME TO EXPRESS HER
02:20:52PM OPPOSITION ALSO.
02:20:53PM OTHERS WHO WERE HERE ON AUGUST FOURTH COULD NOT ATTEND A
02:20:57PM DAYTIME MEETING BECAUSE OF WORK AND OTHER CONFLICTS, BUT YOU
02:21:00PM SEE, WE STILL DO HAVE A BIG CONCERN.
02:21:02PM SUCH AN IMPORTANT DECISION AS THIS REQUIRES TRUTHFUL
02:21:06PM INFORMATION.
02:21:06PM WE HAVE TOLD YOU OF THE MISINFORMATION REGARDING THE MAP
02:21:12PM AND LOOKING AT THE QUARTER MILE.
02:21:14PM THAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT FACT.
02:21:15PM WE HAVE TOLD YOU UNDER OATH, BUT PLEASE KEEP THIS ALSO IN
02:21:20PM MIND.
02:21:20PM ANYONE SPEAKING IN THESE CHAMBERS IS UNDER OATH TO TELL THE
02:21:24PM TRUTH.
02:21:26PM CITY STAFF UNDER OATH REPEATEDLY REFERRED TO THE BLOCK FACE
02:21:30PM AND NOT THE 1320-FOOT LOTS FOR HIS ANALYSIS.
02:21:35PM AND THIS TERM IS NOT IN THE CODE.
02:21:37PM SO THAT IS NOT TRUTHFUL.
02:21:39PM COUNCILMEMBERS, WHEN YOU ASK QUESTIONS THAT HAPPENED IN
02:21:45PM FIRST HEARINGS UNDER OATH AND YOU DIDN'T GET TRUTHFUL
02:21:48PM ANSWERS.
02:21:48PM THE APPLICANT IN HIS REBUTTAL TO RESIDENTS' CONCERNS OF THE
02:21:52PM NEW NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS, PARKING SPACES WHERE THERE WAS ONLY
02:21:56PM ONE BEFORE ON BOTH JUNE 9 AND AUGUST 4, TOLD ALL OF YOU
02:22:00PM UNDER COTE THAT THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST ADJACENT TO THE
02:22:10PM PARKING STUDY WAS THE SAME FOR DRIVEWAYS.
02:22:13PM NOT TRUE.
02:22:13PM THIS IS THE PROPERTY.
02:22:14PM NO DRIVEWAY.
02:22:16PM NO CIRCLE DRIVE.
02:22:17PM NO DRIVEWAY OR PARKING ON THE CLARK AVENUE.
02:22:20PM HE DID NOT TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
02:22:21PM WHAT HE SAID MAY HAVE SWAYED SOME OF YOUR VOTES BUT IT WAS
02:22:26PM NOT TRUE.
02:22:26PM THE ATTORNEY FOR THE OWNER ON AUGUST 4 SAID UNDER OATH THAT
02:22:31PM A 110-FOOT LOT IS JUST OUT OF COMPLIANCE AS A 55-FOOT LOT.
02:22:36PM THAT IS NOT HOW ZONING MINIMUMS WORK
02:22:39PM THAT IS NOT TRUTHFUL INFORMATION EITHER.
02:22:42PM THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES ALONG WITH OTHER INFORMATION WE
02:22:46PM ARE PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY AND IN PREVIOUS HEARINGS AND
02:22:49PM CORRESPONDENCE THAT TRUTH WAS NOT TOLD HERE CONCERNING THAT
02:22:52PM REQUEST.
02:22:52PM SO YOU ALL HAVE TO DECIDE IF THAT IS IMPORTANT.
02:22:55PM THAT'S ON YOU.
02:22:57PM THANK YOU.
02:22:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
02:22:59PM IF I SEE NO ONE ELSE JUMPING, THIS GENTLEMAN WILL BE THE
02:23:17PM LAST PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER-FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.
02:23:24PM >> COULD WE PUT THAT ON THE OVERHEAD?
02:23:32PM >> IT'S THERE.
02:23:41PM >> I HAVE TWO MINUTES.
02:23:43PM JIM McMAHON, JAN FLOWERS.
02:23:48PM TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES.
02:23:50PM >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL McNABB, PRESIDENT OF PALMA CEIA WEST
02:24:00PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
02:24:00PM I AM A RESIDENT OF 47 YEARS WHICH MAKES ME A SUBJECT MATTER
02:24:04PM EXPERT.
02:24:04PM I AM A HOMEOWNER WITHIN 250 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND
02:24:09PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
02:24:09PM WE COULD HAVE PACKED YOUR CHAMBERS TODAY WITH PEOPLE AND WE
02:24:14PM CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT.
02:24:15PM YOU HEARD OF THEM IN PRIOR HEARINGS.
02:24:17PM YOU WILL HEAR SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BUT I AM THE
02:24:20PM LAST SPEAKER.
02:24:21PM AND I AM NOT GOING TO REHASH EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID.
02:24:25PM BUT I WANT SOME THINGS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER BEFORE YOU TAKE
02:24:28PM THE VOTE TODAY.
02:24:29PM THE MAP THAT YOU SEE IS THE SAME MAP OF ZONING THAT ZAIN
02:24:39PM USED.
02:24:39PM I WRITE THE ZONINGS -- THEY ARE SAME MAP.
02:24:42PM I HAVEN'T CHANGED ANYTHING OR ALTERED ANYTHING.
02:24:45PM WHAT YOU SEE IS THE SAME THING THAT THEY USED.
02:24:49PM THE NUMBERS, SAME, THE NUMBER LOTS ARE THE SAME, BUT INSTEAD
02:24:54PM OF USING THE COLORS, WE NUMBERED THE PARCELS.
02:24:56PM YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF.
02:24:57PM NIP UNDERSTANDING OF THAT MAP, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER IT AND
02:25:02PM DEFER TO STAFF TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE BEFORE IT.
02:25:04PM TO BEGIN WITH, THIS ISN'T ABOUT LACKING A FEW FEET OF
02:25:08PM FRONTAGE.
02:25:08PM THE SLIT IS 40 FEET OF MEETING THE RS-75 ZONING.
02:25:14PM MEETING THE FRONTAGE AND SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENTS NOT JUST
02:25:18PM ONE OR THE OTHER.
02:25:18PM MR. HILLS REPRESENTS THEM IS A FINE GENTLEMAN.
02:25:22PM HE TOLD YOU A SMALL NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WERE CAUSING ALL
02:25:25PM THE TROUBLE FOR HIS CLIENT AND HAD -- HAD ANIMOSITY TOWARD
02:25:30PM HIS FAMILY.
02:25:31PM ACTUALLY ALL THE NEIGHBORING OWNERS, EVEN ON ADJACENT BLOCKS
02:25:35PM ARE AGAINST THIS VIOLATION OF OUR LEGAL ZONING FOR REASONS
02:25:39PM THAT ARE NOT PERSONAL.
02:25:40PM MOST OF THEM DON'T EVEN KNOW MO HE IS.
02:25:43PM IF OUR BOARD HAD MET REQUEST PETITIONER AND HIS
02:25:47PM REPRESENTATIVE, WE WOULD HAVE TOLD HIM WE SUCCESSFULLY
02:25:50PM OPPOSE THE LAST LAW SPLIT AND OPPOSE ANY ACTION THAT
02:25:54PM VIOLATES THE LEGAL ZONING.
02:25:55PM WE WOULD TELL YOU THE SAME THING IF YOU WERE THE PROPERTY
02:25:58PM OWNER.
02:25:58PM THAT IS WHY THE CITY ENCOURAGES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
02:26:01PM SO WE CAN SPEAK ABOUT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE ENTIRE
02:26:04PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:26:04PM WE HAVE NO DESIRE TO DISPARAGE THE DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
02:26:09PM MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.
02:26:09PM I AM A RETIRED CITY EMPLOYEE MYSELF, AND I KNOW THAT WORKING
02:26:13PM FOR CITY GOVERNMENT IS NO PICNIC.
02:26:15PM WE SPENT HOURS AND DAY RESTRUCTURES AND CLARIFYING A STAFF
02:26:19PM REPORT THAT HAD SO MANY PROBLEMS IT WAS REMANDED BACK TO
02:26:23PM ANOTHER FIRST HEARING.
02:26:24PM I THINK THAT IS UNPRECEDENTED.
02:26:25PM IF THE STAFF FOLLOWED THE LAND DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCES TO THE
02:26:29PM LETTER AND CONSIDERED THE DIRECTOR'S PRIOR REZONING SUPPORT
02:26:33PM AND COUNCIL'S DECISION ON THAT AND PROVIDE A NEUTRAL AND
02:26:37PM FACTUAL REPORT TO YOU, WE WOULD HAVE NO ARGUMENTS.
02:26:40PM WE CAN'T STAND ASIDE AND PLAY NICE WHEN PROPERTY OWNERS'
02:26:46PM RIGHTS ARE TAKEN AWAY.
02:26:47PM ONCE THAT STARTS, IT SNOWBALLS.
02:26:50PM THIS DEPARTMENT NEEDS STANDARDS AND SOPs SO EVERYBODY KNOWS
02:26:55PM WHAT THE RULES ARE AND NOT A ROLL OF THE DICE.
02:26:57PM THE MAJORITY OF LOT SPLITS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPER WHO PROFIT
02:27:03PM SELLING TWO LOTS INSTEAD OF ONE.
02:27:04PM THE PETITIONER INDICATED HE WANTED TO BUILD TWO LARGE HOUSES
02:27:08PM FOR EXTENDED FAMILY BUT NOTHING PROHIBITS HIM FROM SELLING
02:27:11PM THOSE TWO EMPTY LOTS AS THEY HAVE BEEN ZONED IN OTHER
02:27:14PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
02:27:15PM I CAN'T SAY WHAT HIS INTENTIONS ARE, BUT THE SUBJECT
02:27:19PM 110-FOOT PARCEL THAT EXCEEDS THE RS-57 IS SUFFICIENT FOR ONE
02:27:24PM HOUSE AS ALL THE OTHER HOMEOWNERS WITHOUT A REZONING AND
02:27:29PM WITHOUT A PD.
02:27:35PM RULES OVER THAT AND NOT OF THE CONSTITUENTS.
02:27:40PM ATTORNEY CATE WELLS SAY WE HAVE LEGAL FINDING AND ARE
02:27:44PM SUBJECT TO DUE PROCESS.
02:27:45PM OPINIONS ARE OBJECTIVE.
02:27:47PM FACT ARE OBJECTIVE.
02:27:49PM YOU HEARD COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TODAY FROM YOUR
02:27:53PM CONSTITUENTS.
02:27:54PM LASTLY IN REZONING IS BEING CLOSELY WATCHED BY OTHER
02:27:59PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONINGS IN SOUTH TAMPA BY T.H.A.N. AND
02:28:03PM CONCERNED RESIDENTS WHO VOTE IN LOCAL ELECTIONS, THE
02:28:06PM NEWSPAPER AND DEVELOPERS UP UNTIL NOW HAVE WISELY AVOIDED
02:28:09PM FILING REZONINGS IN PALMA CEIA WEST FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.
02:28:13PM THEY WOULD HAVE LOST.
02:28:15PM AN IMPORTANT CASE THAT DESERVES CAREFUL SCRUTINY AND ALL OF
02:28:19PM THE CAREFUL AND COMPETENT EVIDENCE DOES -- THAT HAS BEEN
02:28:23PM PROVIDED BY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS HAS TO BE THE DECIDING
02:28:27PM FACTOR IN YOUR VOTES.
02:28:28PM I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
02:28:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
02:28:32PM PETITIONER, YOU HAVE -- YOUR EQUAL TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
02:28:38PM SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO USE IT.
02:28:42PM >> THANK YOU, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:28:46PM FOR THE RECORD, KEVIN REALI, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
02:28:52PM THE PUBLIC DISCUSSED 27-11 AND KEEPS REFERRING BACK THAT
02:28:57PM THAT QUARTER-MILE STANDARD.
02:28:59PM WHAT THE PUBLIC DIDN'T DISCLOSE THAT 27-11 ALSO TELLS THE
02:29:03PM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR TO CONSIDER THE UNDERLYING PLAT WHEN
02:29:06PM LOOKING AT COMPATIBILITY.
02:29:07PM AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IN THE 1320-SQUARE-FOOT AREA IS
02:29:14PM NOT THE SAME.
02:29:14PM IT IS FOR COMPATIBILITY.
02:29:16PM ALL ABOUT COMPATIBILITY.
02:29:17PM NO WAIVERS ARE REQUESTED FOR THIS APPLICATION.
02:29:20PM STAFF HAS FOUND THIS COMPATIBLE.
02:29:22PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS FOUND IN COMPATIBLE.
02:29:25PM COMPLIES WITH THE YND LYING FUTURE LAND USE.
02:29:30PM THIS COMPLIES WITH THE RS-75 STANDARDS ON TOP OF THE R-6
02:29:39PM DENSITY STANDARDS.
02:29:40PM THE NEIGHBORS ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THIS LOT THAT IS
02:29:44PM PROPOSED IS NOT THE SAME AS THEIRS.
02:29:47PM WHEN THEY HAVE GONE BACK AND PICKED APART SOME OF THE
02:29:52PM TESTIMONY AND QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS
02:29:55PM EQUATING A FACT?
02:29:58PM THE SAME AS THIS WITH COMPATIBILITY.
02:30:00PM STAFF'S COMMENT WAS ON COMPATIBILITY.
02:30:04PM STAFF WAS NOT TESTIFYING THAT THIS LOT WILL BE THE EXACT
02:30:07PM SAME.
02:30:07PM STAFF WAS TESTIFYING THAT THEY FOUND IT COMPATIBLE BASED ON
02:30:11PM THEIR ANALYSIS.
02:30:12PM COMPATIBILITY -- LET ME ZOOM IN HERE -- COMPATIBILITY IS NOT
02:30:21PM DEFINED IN YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
02:30:22PM IT IS COMBINED IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
02:30:25PM I WILL READ HERE AND PAUSE AT CERTAIN POINTS.
02:30:27PM COMPATIBILITY IS DEFINED AS THE CHARACTERISTIC OF DIFFERENT
02:30:31PM USES AND ACTIVITIES.
02:30:32PM WE HAVE NO DIFFERENCE IN USE.
02:30:34PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
02:30:37PM TO -- ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER IN HARMONY.
02:30:40PM SOME ELEMENTS AFFECTING COMPATIBILITY INCLUDE HEIGHT, SCALE,
02:30:44PM MASS, BULK OF STRUCTURES.
02:30:46PM WE ARE PROPOSING TO DEVELOP UNDER THE RS-75 DEVELOPMENT
02:30:50PM STANDARDS AND DENSITY COMPLY TO THE DENSITY IN THE
02:30:53PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
02:30:54PM PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, CIRCULATION, PARKING,
02:30:58PM LANDSCAPING IS ALL CONTROLLED BY YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
02:31:00PM NO WAIVERS REQUESTED HERE AND ALL OF THESE STANDARDS ARE
02:31:03PM COVERED BECAUSE IT COMPLIES WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
02:31:06PM TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES.
02:31:08PM MOST IMPORTANTLY HERE, TO DEPEND MYSELF AND TO DEFEND STAFF
02:31:12PM FOR THIS IDEA THAT THE TESTIMONY ABOUT COMPATIBILITY WAS
02:31:18PM WRONG BECAUSE IT IS NOT EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT IS
02:31:21PM PROPOSED.
02:31:22PM COMPATIBILITY DOES NOT MEAN THE SAME AS.
02:31:24PM RATHER REFERS TO DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS AND CHARACTER OF THE
02:31:29PM EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.
02:31:30PM YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF FOUND IT COMPATIBLE.
02:31:38PM NO PRECEDENT WILL BE SET HERE.
02:31:40PM OTHER APPLICATIONS BEFORE YOU ARE NOT RELEVANT.
02:31:43PM AND JUST TO POINT OUT ONE ITEM HERE IN MY COMMENT.
02:31:47PM THE ONLY SPECIFIC COMMENT THAT I WILL REFER TO, THE COMMENT
02:31:50PM THAT 110-FOOT LOT IS NO MORE COMPATIBLE.
02:31:53PM 110-FOOT LOT IS 35 FEET LARGER THAN RS-75 MINIMUM LOT.
02:31:58PM AND WHAT IS PROPOSED HERE IS 20-FOOT DISTINGUISH THAT.
02:32:02PM I AM SIMPLY POINTING OUT THE MATHEMATICAL DIFFERENCE THERE
02:32:06PM THAT THE DELTA WE ARE TALK SOMETHING LESS THAN THE DELTA
02:32:09PM THAT WOULD EXIST IF THIS IS NOT APPROVED.
02:32:12PM AGAIN JUST TO RECAP, ALL ABOUT COMPATIBILITY.
02:32:15PM YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF FOUND THIS COMPATIBLE.
02:32:17PM NO WAIVERS WERE REQUESTED.
02:32:18PM RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
02:32:22PM THANK YOU.
02:32:29PM >> CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT
02:32:32PM COORDINATION.
02:32:32PM I WANTED TO SPEAK ON A COUPLE OF ITEMS JUST FOR THE RECORD.
02:32:35PM A LOT OF TESTIMONY HAS BEEN GIVEN.
02:32:38PM YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION FROM THE
02:32:41PM PUBLIC.
02:32:42PM AND I JUST WANTED TO PUT SOME THINGS ON THE RECORD.
02:32:44PM SO, ONE, THERE IS -- I HAVE RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE
02:32:49PM PUBLIC AND ABOUT THE AUGUST 4 HEARING AND TESTIMONY GIVEN.
02:32:54PM I WENT BACK AND I REVIEWED THE TRANSCRIPT.
02:32:57PM I REVIEWED THE RECORDING OF THE HEARING AND OF LISTENED AND
02:33:03PM WATCHED WHAT WAS BRENT PRESENT BY ZAIN.
02:33:07PM ZAIN PRESENTED ALONG WITH THE ASSOCIATED MAP AND AERIAL MAP.
02:33:13PM IT WAS CORRECT.
02:33:14PM INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED WAS CORRECT.
02:33:18PM THERE ARE SOME THINGS LISTED IN CORRESPONDENCE FROM ONE OF
02:33:23PM THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AS TO WHETHER THE INFORMATION
02:33:25PM PROVIDED WITH AS TRUE AND CORRECT.
02:33:27PM SO I DID WANT TO STATE THAT ON THE RECORD, BUT ALSO TO
02:33:30PM EXPLAIN, YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN INFORMATION FROM THE 2012
02:33:34PM REZONING WHICH WAS A CONFORMING MAP WHICH WAS A DIFFERENT
02:33:38PM MAP THAT WAS UTILIZED AT THAT TIME.
02:33:41PM SO AT THE TIME WE USED THE RED-BLUE MAP WHICH YOU HEARD
02:33:45PM ABOUT THAT CONTAINS THE TWO COLORS.
02:33:47PM AND THAT GIVES YOU THE SIZE OF THE WIDTH OF THE PROPERTIES
02:33:51PM IN QUESTION SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, WHETHER
02:33:54PM THEY ARE LARGER OR SMALLER THAN THE UNDERLYING ZONING AS FAR
02:33:58PM AS THE LOT WIDTH.
02:34:00PM WHAT WE USED STARTING IN 2014 IS A DIFFERENT CONFORMING MAP
02:34:07PM REFERRED TO OF THE TESTIMONY GIVEN TODAY.
02:34:09PM THAT IS THE MAP THAT IS PROVIDED TO YOU IN THE STAFF'S
02:34:14PM REPORT.
02:34:15PM THAT IS THE CONFORMING MAP THAT WE USE TODAY.
02:34:17PM WHEN ZAIN SPOKE IN REFERENCE TO THAT CONFORMING MAP.
02:34:24PM HE SPOKE OF THE THREE PAR SELLING LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF
02:34:28PM SUBJECT PROPERTY.
02:34:28PM HE GAVE THE MEASUREMENTS OF EACH ONE.
02:34:30PM AND HE SPOKE ABOUT THOSE LOTS MEETING THE MINIMUM LOT AREA
02:34:36PM FOR RS-75, WHICH THEY DO.
02:34:39PM EACH LOT MEETS AT LEAST THE 7500 SQUARE FOOT.
02:34:42PM BUT MOST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO MENTION AND BRING TO
02:34:51PM COUNCIL'S ATTENTION WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR.
02:34:53PM SO YOU ARE HERE REFERENCE TO THE 2012.
02:34:55PM THE 2012 REZONING WITH FOR THIS PARCEL.
02:34:59PM THE REQUEST THAT WAS BEFORE YOU.
02:35:02PM THIS WAS THE BLOCK.
02:35:04PM THE BLOCK THAT IS IDENTIFIED HERE ON THE RIGHT IS FOR THE
02:35:07PM CURRENT REQUEST.
02:35:08PM SO ONE THING IS, THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT BLOCKS IF YOU LOOK
02:35:12PM AT THEM.
02:35:13PM THEY ARE DEVELOPED DIFFERENTLY.
02:35:15PM YOU CAN HAVE TWO UNIQUE BLACKS IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:35:18PM AND IN THAT CASE, YOU MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT ANALYSIS.
02:35:23PM SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU, COUNCIL, THERE HAS BEEN
02:35:28PM A LOT OF TALK OF THE 2012.
02:35:30PM BUT IT IS TO REMIND YOU WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY UNDER THIS
02:35:33PM REQUEST.
02:35:33PM BUT ALSO, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS PROVIDED WITHIN THE
02:35:39PM STAFF REPORT --
02:35:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS REQUESTED YOU PUT THAT
02:35:43PM BACK.
02:35:44PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: PUT THE MAP BACK?
02:35:57PM ZOOM IN A LITTLE.
02:35:58PM YES, SIR.
02:35:59PM I PUT THESE -- BY THE WAY, I AM SORRY, COUNCIL, I JUST TOOK
02:36:07PM AN IMAGE OF THIS MAP, OF THIS BLOCK, AND THEN THIS BLOCK I
02:36:10PM JUST PUT THEM NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
02:36:12PM ON THE MAP ITSELF, THEY ARE NOT LOCATED THERE.
02:36:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS DOCK.
02:36:21PM WHEN ZAIN GAVE US HIS ANALYSIS, THE PROJECT HE SPOKE ABOUT
02:36:32PM WAS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
02:36:33PM THESE WERE THE THREE MEASUREMENTS HE GAVE YOU.
02:36:36PM HE GAVE YOU THE LOT WIDTH AND DEPTH AND HE STATE THAT THESE
02:36:40PM EXCEED THE 7500-SQUARE-FOOT MINIMUM IN THE RS-75 ZONING
02:36:48PM DISTRICT.
02:36:48PM THAT IS CORRECT.
02:36:50PM THE QUESTION THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ASKED WHICH WAS ON THE
02:36:54PM RECORD IS PART OF THE INFORMATION GIVEN IN THE TRANSCRIPT
02:36:58PM PROVIDED WAS CORRECT, BECAUSE WHAT SHE ASKED WAS THAT THESE
02:37:03PM MEET THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH.
02:37:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:37:08PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: TALKING ABOUT YOUR CURRENT REQUEST.
02:37:12PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES.
02:37:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I LOOK AT THE MAP PRESENTED TO ME BY THE
02:37:20PM PUBLIC.
02:37:21PM TO ME THAT HOUSE WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH -- SOUTHWEST OF THIS
02:37:26PM BLOCK RIGHT HERE.
02:37:26PM SO WHAT I AM SEEING RIGHT NOW IS YOU ARE SAYING THREE BLUES
02:37:34PM THAT ARE -- THAT ARE STANDARD.
02:37:36PM AND WE ARE TALKING OF A PETITION FOR THE -- FOR THE RED LOT
02:37:42PM TO CONFORM TO THE TOP THREE BLUES, CORRECT?
02:37:46PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: SO THIS IS THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU.
02:37:49PM AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT PARCEL WHICH IS HATCHED IN THE BLACK
02:37:52PM PATTERN.
02:37:52PM THESE ARE THE THREE BLUE LOTS ZAIN REFERENCED IN THE STAFF
02:37:56PM REPORT AND IN HIS PRESENTATION ON AUGUST 4.
02:37:58PM WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TODAY IS THAT THE INFORMATION
02:38:02PM PROVIDED WAS NOT CORRECT.
02:38:05PM AND IT WAS STATED CORRECTLY ON THE RECORD.
02:38:08PM BUT THESE ARE THE THREE PARCELS THAT ARE LOCATED NORTH OF
02:38:17PM THIS REQUEST.
02:38:18PM AND YOU HAVE THE TWO THAT ARE LOCATED -- THAT ARE BLUE.
02:38:22PM I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THE RECORD, COUNCIL, BECAUSE OF THE
02:38:30PM TESTIMONY HEARD ABOUT THE ACCURACY OF WHAT IS PROVIDED BY
02:38:33PM STAFF.
02:38:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:38:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION OF ORIGINAL PLATTING.
02:38:43PM SOMEONE IN THE PUBLIC MENTIONED -- OR I THINK ACTUALLY --
02:38:47PM THE APPLICANT MENTIONED ORIGINAL PLATTING.
02:38:51PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES.
02:38:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW MANY OF THE OTHER LOTS IN THIS
02:38:59PM NEIGHBORHOOD DON'T HAVE THE ORIGINAL PLATTING?
02:39:03PM I AM JUST CURIOUS IF YOU KNOW THAT.
02:39:05PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: SO WHAT WE DID AS PART OF THE REPORT, AND HE
02:39:11PM CAN LET ZAIN SPEAK TO THAT SOME.
02:39:13PM I APOLOGIZE.
02:39:14PM I DON'T WANT TO TAKE OVER FOR ZAIN.
02:39:16PM WE TOOK A SNIPPET OF THAT PLAT.
02:39:18PM WE DON'T HAVE THE OVERALL AREA -- NOT WITH US HERE TODAY.
02:39:22PM BUT THAT IS THE PLAT FOR THE LOT IN QUESTION, WHICH IS
02:39:28PM IDENTIFIED IN RED ON THE ELMO.
02:39:31PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:39:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
02:39:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO STAFF.
02:39:51PM >> I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
02:39:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MA'AM, YOU HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES.
02:39:55PM >> BUT I CAN ANSWER MY QUESTION.
02:39:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
02:40:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:40:03PM NO ONE ONLINE.
02:40:09PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:40:11PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:40:16PM OKAY.
02:40:20PM THANK YOU.
02:40:20PM ANY OPPOSED?
02:40:22PM THANK YOU.
02:40:22PM I AM GOING TO ASK IF THERE IS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
02:40:29PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:40:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL TAKE A SHOT OF THIS.
02:40:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DISCUSSION?
02:40:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO, MOTION.
02:40:41PM OKAY TO GO.
02:40:42PM IF ANYBODY AGREES, YOU CAN ADD IN.
02:40:44PM I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO DENY BASED ON THE FAILURE OF THE
02:40:48PM APPLICANT TO PROVE AMONG OTHER THINGS COMPATIBILITY WITH THE
02:40:51PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:40:51PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD GAVE US NUMBERS AND WHETHER THE NUMBERS ARE
02:40:55PM EXACTLY RIGHT OR NOT, THEY SAID 90% GREATER THAN 60 FEET.
02:41:00PM 95% GREATER THAN 55 FEET AND WHETHER SLIGHTLY OFF OR NOT,
02:41:05PM THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE LOTS ARE -- ARE GREATER THAN THE
02:41:09PM PROPOSAL.
02:41:10PM THE -- THE PUBLIC ALSO WENT INTO GREAT DETAIL CITING LAND
02:41:15PM USE POLICIES TO SAVE TIME.
02:41:17PM CITED NONCONFORMITY WITH LAND USE POLICIES 9.5.1, 9.5.2,
02:41:25PM 9.5.14, 13.2.6, 1.2.28.
02:41:29PM 1.2.
02:41:31PM 1.2.3.
02:41:33PM 1.3, 1.2.16.
02:41:37PM 1.2.28.
02:41:40PM AND ADDITIONAL OTHER COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT
02:41:45PM HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE CLERK.
02:41:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:41:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:41:53PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:41:54PM ANY DISCUSSION.
02:41:55PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:41:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
02:41:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
02:42:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:42:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:42:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
02:42:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:42:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
02:42:12PM >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH GUDES, VIERA, HURTAK AND CITRO
02:42:19PM VOTING NO.
02:42:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT MOTION HAS FAILED.
02:42:26PM NOW WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
02:42:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
02:42:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SOMEONE NEEDS TO RE.
02:42:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE TO REOPEN.
02:42:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
02:42:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:42:43PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:42:46PM ALL IN FAVOR.
02:42:47PM OPPOSED.
02:42:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ZAIN AND MISS DOCK, MR. CARLSON HAS CITED A
02:42:56PM LOT OF CITATIONS FROM SOME OF THE AUDIENCE THAT ARE
02:42:58PM OBJECTING TO THE COVES.
02:43:04PM WANT TO FIND OUT -- ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE OR --
02:43:09PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE RIGHT ON THIS.
02:43:11PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, DO CAN DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
02:43:16PM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE -- ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE
02:43:19PM LAND USE OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES.
02:43:21PM YES.
02:43:22PM AND I APOLOGIZE, I WAS GOING TO MENTION THOSE AND THEN I
02:43:27PM SIDE TRACKED AND I DIDN'T GO BACK TO IT.
02:43:29PM YOU WILL FIND WITHIN YOUR STAFF REPORT PROVIDED TO YOU FROM
02:43:31PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BECAUSE, REMEMBER, THERE WAS A
02:43:34PM RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR YOU WITHIN THE STAFF
02:43:37PM REPORT.
02:43:37PM THERE ARE MANY LAND USE OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES, LAND USE
02:43:42PM OBJECTIVE 9.5, 9.5.1, 9.5.3, WHICH ALL SUPPORT THE
02:43:50PM CONSISTENCY OF THE REQUEST.
02:43:52PM WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT DENSITY AND CHARACTER, IT PROVIDES
02:43:55PM THE SAME DENSITY AS THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THAT IS
02:43:58PM PROPOSED ON THE LOTS.
02:43:59PM BUT ALSO INCLUDED WAS NEIGHBORHOOD, ANY OBJECTIVE 173,
02:44:08PM 1.3.10 AND HOUSE OBJECTIVE 1.3, HOUSING 1.3.1.
02:44:12PM 1.3.3.
02:44:14PM 1.3.4.
02:44:17PM THOSE ARE PROVIDED.
02:44:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE REASON I ASKED THAT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC
02:44:21PM GAVE NUMBERS AND STATUTES.
02:44:22PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN LINE, THE POLICIES ARE
02:44:26PM RIGHT.
02:44:26PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ABSOLUTELY.
02:44:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I STAND BY NEIGHBORHOODS BUT SOMETIMES YOU
02:44:30PM HAVE A BORDERLINE SITUATION AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BE
02:44:34PM FAIR SOMETIMES ON BOTH SIDES.
02:44:36PM AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES.
02:44:37PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CODES ARE CORRECT FROM WHAT THE
02:44:41PM PUBLIC IS DISPUTING AND MAKING SURE WE ARE ON TASK WITH
02:44:44PM THAT.
02:44:44PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES.
02:44:45PM WE HAVE IT DOCUMENTED AND WITHIN THE REPORT PROVIDED.
02:44:49PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
02:44:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:44:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: IS IT NOT TRUE THAT THESE POLICIES ARE SO
02:44:57PM VAGUE THAT THE PUBLIC IS RIGHT IN POTENTIALLY AND THE
02:45:00PM APPLICANT IS ALSO RIGHT THAT YOU COULD READ THESE EITHER WAY
02:45:03PM THE WAY THEY ARE WRITTEN?
02:45:05PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:45:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: SEEMS OBVIOUS IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE BECAUSE
02:45:11PM THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT HAVE SMALL
02:45:15PM LOTS LIKE THIS.
02:45:16PM I DON'T SEE ANYBODY -- I READ THE REPORT, BUT I DON'T THINK
02:45:20PM ANYBODY CAN LEGITIMATELY SAYS IT COMPATIBLE WHEN THIS IS NOT
02:45:24PM LIKE THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:45:25PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: I MEAN EACH POLICY IN OBJECTIVE COULD BE
02:45:30PM ANALYZED ON ITS OWN AND COULD BE EVALUATED DIFFERENTLY BY
02:45:34PM SOMEONE THAT READS THAT OBJECTIVE AND DEPENDS ON HOW YOU
02:45:37PM WANT TO UTILIZE IT.
02:45:38PM WHEN YOU HAVE AN OBJECTIVE AND POLICY SPEAKS TO LOW DENSITY,
02:45:45PM SINGLE FAMILY AREAS AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING SINGLE
02:45:48PM FAMILY.
02:45:49PM THAT POLICY MAY APPLY TO WHAT IS REQUESTED.
02:45:52PM BUT, YES, THERE ARE OTHER POLICIES -- SORRY, I DON'T WANT TO
02:45:56PM INTERRUPT.
02:45:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: LEGAL MAY SHUT ME DOWN.
02:46:00PM I WILL SAY TO MY COLLEAGUES, AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT
02:46:04PM WANT DENSITY.
02:46:04PM AND WE NEED DENSITY.
02:46:06PM BUT AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT DON'T WANT DENSITY.
02:46:08PM AND IF YOU -- IF YOU CHANGE THE COMPATIBILITY OF A
02:46:12PM NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU DRASTICALLY CHANGE THE WAY THE CHARACTER
02:46:15PM OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW AND NEIGHBORS INTERACT WITH EACH
02:46:20PM OTHER.
02:46:20PM IT IS -- IT IS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT.
02:46:30PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:46:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:46:37PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:46:39PM ALL IN FAVOR.
02:46:39PM OPPOSED?
02:46:43PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
02:47:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
02:47:05PM READING REZONING PROPERTY 4111 WEST SAN CARLOS IN THE CITY
02:47:10PM OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED ZONING RS-75
02:47:16PM TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
02:47:19PM PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:47:20PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
02:47:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:47:35PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:47:37PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
02:47:39PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:47:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN'T SAY THAT THIS ISN'T A DIFFICULT VOTE.
02:47:50PM I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT UP SOME PRETTY VALID POINTS.
02:47:54PM ABOUT POSSIBLY WHAT HAPPENS IF PEOPLE BUY TWO DOTS AND
02:48:01PM DIVIDE THEM AND HOW ALL OF THAT CHANGES.
02:48:05PM BUT THIS IS REALLY A LOT-BY-LOT DECISION.
02:48:14PM I THINK THAT IS WHAT MAKES ALL OF THESE DECISIONS DIFFICULT
02:48:19PM FOR US.
02:48:21PM AND THIS IS NO EXCEPTION.
02:48:23PM I DON'T THINK THAT ANY OF US WANT TO OPEN THE FLOODGATES TO
02:48:28PM REZONINGS OR LOT SPLITS IN AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:48:39PM SO, YEAH -- THIS ONE -- THIS ONE IS DIFFICULT.
02:48:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS?
02:48:55PM WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:48:57PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:48:58PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:49:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
02:49:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOING TO SAY NO.
02:49:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
02:49:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO GO SAY YES.
02:49:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:49:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
02:49:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
02:49:26PM >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH MIRANDA AND HURTAK AND
02:49:31PM MANISCALCO --
02:49:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I.
02:49:33PM I WILL STATE MY PEACE AND I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL
02:49:36PM SAY IT AGAIN.
02:49:37PM WHEN I LOOK AT THIS REPORT, WE HAVE WHAT I CALL A CLEAN
02:49:40PM STAFF REPORT.
02:49:40PM THE EVIDENCE THAT WE CAN RELY ON THAT WE WERE GIVEN.
02:49:44PM I AGREE WITH THE -- WHEN I SAY I AGREE WITH THE
02:49:48PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:49:48PM I AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:49:50PM I ALWAYS SAY THE LEGS ON THE STOOL I HAVE TO SUPPORT IT, I
02:49:54PM DON'T SEE ANYTHING THERE AT THIS TIME, RIGHT, SUFFICIENT FOR
02:49:59PM ANY ADVERSE DEIN THAT REGARD AND I SAY THAT WITH HESITATION
02:50:04PM AND REGRET.
02:50:05PM THAT IS HOW I SEE THIS DECISION, BUT IF COUNCILMEMBERS
02:50:09PM FURTHER DISAGREE, LET'S -- LET'S HAVE A TALK BECAUSE
02:50:13PM OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE ARE -- I THINK WE ARE ALL ANGUISHED ON
02:50:16PM THIS, BUT WE COME FROM IT AND GOING DIFFERENT WAYS.
02:50:19PM IF THIS WAS AN ELECTION, 52-48.
02:50:22PM I THINK IN ALL OF OUR MINDS, IN ALL OF OUR OPINIONS.
02:50:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE -- WE CAN'T LOOK AT THIS AS A
02:50:30PM CITY POLICY.
02:50:31PM IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD-BY-NEIGHBORHOOD APPLICATION OF IT.
02:50:35PM BECAUSE THE -- THE LAND USE POLICIES OVERWHELMINGLY TALK
02:50:39PM ABOUT COMPATIBILITY AND THESE SPLITS ARE NOT COMPATIBLE AT
02:50:43PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:50:44PM EACH NEIGHBORHOOD IS UNIQUE AND SPECIAL AND YOU START TO
02:50:47PM CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:50:48PM IT CHANGES OPINION YOU ALL KNOW THAT THESE THINGS ARE USED
02:50:51PM AS PRECEDENT WHEN THEY COME BACK IN FRONT OF US.
02:50:54PM THE EXAMPLE THAT EVERYBODY TALKED ABOUT OF TWO LOTS THAT
02:50:58PM TURNED INTO THREE HOUSES.
02:50:59PM THAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE PASS IT.
02:51:00PM JUST ON THE SURFACE, IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE.
02:51:03PM WE CAN LOOK AT THE MAPS AND SEE IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE.
02:51:06PM >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION --
02:51:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAKE UP YOUR MIND.
02:51:14PM YOU WANT TO GO OR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:51:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:51:20PM I THINK THAT STAFF HAS PROVIDED CLEAR TESTIMONY, BUT I ALSO
02:51:26PM AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON THAT EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT.
02:51:29PM AND MY BIG FEAR IS PEOPLE BUYING TWO LOTS, TWO 75-FOOT LOTS
02:51:37PM AND WANTING TO DIVIDE THEM INTO THREE 50-FOOT LOTS.
02:51:43PM BECAUSE THAT DOES CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF IN NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:51:48PM I -- YOU KNOW, I DO AGREE WITH STAFF.
02:51:50PM I -- I AM JUST REALLY -- THIS IS A SET NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:51:55PM I THINK IN ONE CASE, THIS WOULD BE FINE.
02:51:58PM BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE WHOLE -- THE PRECEDENT SETTING MAKES
02:52:04PM IT VERY DIFFICULT.
02:52:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:52:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
02:52:11PM I HAVE A QUESTION.
02:52:12PM AND WE HAVE --
02:52:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE TO REOPEN.
02:52:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY MOVE TO REOPEN.
02:52:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
02:52:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:52:20PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:52:23PM ALL IN FAVOR.
02:52:24PM OPPOSED.
02:52:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:52:27PM THAT IS A RELEVANT POINT THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK BROUGHT UP
02:52:31PM WHICH IS THE ISSUE OF PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE DECISIONS,
02:52:35PM RELIANCE.
02:52:36PM TO LEGAL, IF YOU GUYS CAN ANSWER.
02:52:38PM IF YOU ALL CAN ANSWER IT.
02:52:39PM HOW -- HOW BINDING OR RELEVANT WOULD THIS BE FOR FUTURE LOT
02:52:44PM SPLITS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT AN APPLICANT CAN RELY UPON
02:52:48PM TO FURTHER GO DOWN THIS ROUTE OR BEAR NO RELEVANCY
02:52:52PM WHATSOEVER ON STAFF'S DECISION ON OKAYING A PROJECT.
02:52:55PM IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT.
02:52:56PM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS FOR THE RECORDS.
02:53:00PM I WOULD ASK WHEN COUNCIL MAKES A DECISION TODAY, YOU LOOK AT
02:53:06PM THIS SPECIFIC LOT AND THE CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS
02:53:10PM IT EXISTS TODAY AND NOT MAKE A DECISION SPACED ON
02:53:13PM SPECULATION ABOUT WHAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
02:53:15PM YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE HEARD ON BOTH SIDES AS TO THEIR ARGUMENTS
02:53:21PM WHY THEY BELIEVE THE APPLICATION IS OR IS NOT CONSISTENT
02:53:26PM WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
02:53:29PM ULTIMATELY THIS CITY COUNCIL GETS TO DECIDE WHETHER THE
02:53:33PM APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE.
02:53:35PM BUT I -- I -- RATHER THAN LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD AS TO WHAT
02:53:41PM MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN, I WILL ASK COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION
02:53:45PM TODAY BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT THAT EXISTS TODAY.
02:53:47PM THE COULD HE HAD THAT EXISTS TODAY AND THE COMPREHENSIVE
02:53:51PM PLAN.
02:53:51PM >> IF I CAN INQUIRE AND IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
02:53:54PM THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE CAN'T USE THIS TO
02:54:01PM SPECULATE INTO THE FUTURE AND IT WILL BE IMPROPER FOR US TO
02:54:04PM RELY ON THAT WHAT YOU AS SPECULATION.
02:54:09PM >>CATE WELLS: LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE IS CONDITIONS THAT EXIST
02:54:13PM TODAY NOT SPECULATE WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN IN THE
02:54:15PM FUTURE.
02:54:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
02:54:17PM FOR THE PUBLIC I INQUIRE ON THE ISSUE BECAUSE I LIKE TO WHAT
02:54:24PM I CALL THE EQUALS TO THIS.
02:54:26PM IF COUNCIL DECIDES ONE DAY AND MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY AND IT
02:54:33PM COMES BACK TO WHAT I SAUL THE SEQUEL, IT NEVER SITS RIGHT
02:54:36PM WITH ME IF WE ARE MAKING -- IF WE ARE WRITING A POLITICAL
02:54:40PM CHECK THAT ULTIMATELY WE CAN'T CASH.
02:54:42PM IF WE CAN CASH IT, GREAT.
02:54:44PM LET'S CASH IT.
02:54:45PM IT JUST -- AS I SEE IT.
02:54:46PM AS I INTERPRET IT.
02:54:48PM SPEAKING FOR MYSELF WITH NO RELEVANCY TO ANYBODY ELSE UP
02:54:53PM HERE.
02:54:54PM THAT WAY I SEE THINGS AND THAT'S WHY I ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
02:54:59PM THANK YOU.
02:54:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:55:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: JUST ONE OF THOSE.
02:55:04PM I DON'T -- I DON'T KNOW IF THE PETITIONER IS FOLLOWING GO
02:55:09PM BACK AND MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE IF THERE IS SOME
02:55:12PM KIND OF COMPROMISE OR RESOLVE.
02:55:14PM FOR SOMEBODY TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY BECAUSE YOU SEE
02:55:19PM WE HAD A NO GO ON BOTH ENDS.
02:55:21PM SO MAYBE -- MAYBE BY THE TIME WE HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION,
02:55:29PM MAYBE THE PETITIONER MIGHT CONSIDER MEETING WITH THE
02:55:31PM NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN TO SEE HOW THEY CAN RESOLVE THIS, IF
02:55:34PM POSSIBLE.
02:55:35PM COUNSELOR.
02:55:38PM I THINK THE --
02:55:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, CAN WE HAVE
02:55:47PM DISCUSSION FIRST AND THEN GO BACK.
02:55:49PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:55:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM AWED.
02:55:54PM WE TOOK A VOTE AND 4-3.
02:55:57PM TOOK ANOTHER VOTE AND IT WAS IT SAME OR DIFFERENT.
02:56:01PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: BOTH MOTIONS FAILED.
02:56:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BOTH MOTION FAILED.
02:56:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DID I MISVOTE OR SOMETHING?
02:56:15PM LOOKING FOR THE 8th VOTE.
02:56:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE VOTE CHANGED.
02:56:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE WE STILL IN DISCUSSION HERE.
02:56:20PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:56:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THIS OUT.
02:56:24PM WE HEARD THIS FOUR TIMES.
02:56:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN I --
02:56:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND I WILL LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AFTER
02:56:31PM WE ARE ALL FINISHED.
02:56:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EVERYBODY DONE WITH DISCUSSION?
02:56:36PM YEAH, BUT -- THANK YOU.
02:56:39PM I WANT TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE.
02:56:42PM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THERE IS A LOT OF IFS IN LAND USE
02:56:50PM CHANGES.
02:56:51PM NORMALLY WHAT WE ARE HEARING ABOUT IS THE OF THAT CERTAIN
02:56:56PM PLOT OR TRACT.
02:56:57PM FOR YEARS I HAVE BEEN HEARING SOUTH TAMPA COMPLAINING ABOUT
02:57:07PM McMANSIONS BEING BUILT.
02:57:09PM AND THESE NICE SMALL SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS.
02:57:17PM THIS LOT THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING NOW IS A LARGE LOT IN SOUTH
02:57:26PM TAMPA IT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE TO SEE TWO SINGLE-FAMILY
02:57:34PM HOMES THERE.
02:57:35PM THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THIS LOT WOULD BE A HUGE Mc MANSION.
02:57:50PM I AM GIVING YOU THE REASON WHY I VOTED THE WAY I DID.
02:57:53PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:57:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
02:57:57PM >> SECOND.
02:57:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:58:01PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:58:03PM ALL IN FAVOR.
02:58:04PM HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION.
02:58:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE A MOTION TO DENY REZ 22-24.
02:58:20PM PROTECT LOW DENSITY AREAS PROTECTED OF CHILDREN AND OWES
02:58:27PM RESIDENTS.
02:58:28PM I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE TO DO AND MOVING FORWARD
02:58:34PM WILL VIOLATE THAT.
02:58:35PM 9.5.2.
02:58:36PM MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
02:58:39PM CHARACTER OF SINGLE-FAMILY INCLUDE DENSITY CHARACTERISTICS.
02:58:44PM OKAY.
02:58:44PM WE ALSO HAVE LAND USE POLICY 13.2.6, A DETAILED ANALYSIS OF
02:58:50PM THE COMMUNITY DESIRED CHARACTERS SHALL BE CONSIDERED AND WE
02:58:54PM HEARD SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PUBLIC COMMENT OF HOW PEOPLE,
02:58:59PM RESIDENTS WHO ARE AFFECTED FEEL ABOUT THAT.
02:59:01PM LAND USE 1.2, TO RESPECT TAMPA'S NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND
02:59:05PM SENSE OF COMMUNITY, IDENTITY, AS THE CITY CHANGES AND
02:59:08PM EVOLVES.
02:59:09PM WE TAKE THIS ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS AND LOOKING AT THIS LOT
02:59:13PM AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND SURROUNDING RESIDENTS.
02:59:15PM LAND USE POLICY 1.2.3 SAYS RELATE NEW BUILDINGS AND
02:59:22PM DEVELOPMENT OF THE CONTEXT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE
02:59:24PM COMMUNITY.
02:59:24PM THIS IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THAT.
02:59:26PM LAND USE POLY1.2.5 TO ENCOURAGE POSITIVE CHANGE WHILE
02:59:31PM PROTECTING TAMPA'S TRADITIONAL CHARACTER.
02:59:34PM WE ARE PROTECTING THE TRADITIONAL CHARACTER OF THIS
02:59:36PM NEIGHBORHOOD BY DENYING THIS.
02:59:38PM LAND USE POLICY 1.2.10.
02:59:41PM ENSURE THAT REDEVELOPMENT, DESIGN AND NEIGHBORHOODS ENHANCES
02:59:45PM THEIR DISTINCTIVE NATURAL HISTORIC CHARACTERISTICS.
02:59:48PM THIS DOES NOT DO THAT.
02:59:50PM SO THIS IS IN VIOLATION OF POLICY 1.2.10.
02:59:54PM AND I BELIEVE THAT IS IT.
02:59:56PM >> SECOND.
02:59:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I BELIEVE THAT IS SUFFICIENT ENOUGH WITH
03:00:00PM VERY SPECIFIC IN THIS DENIAL.
03:00:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
03:00:05PM MANISCALCO.
03:00:05PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:00:08PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
03:00:11PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:00:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
03:00:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:00:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
03:00:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
03:00:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:00:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
03:00:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
03:00:25PM >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH HURTAK, GUDES, VIERA AND CITRO
03:00:32PM VOTING NO.
03:00:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
03:00:35PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:00:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER REZ-22-24, ORDINANCE BEING
03:00:41PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN
03:00:43PM THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4111 WEST SAN CARLOS STREET IN THE
03:00:48PM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
03:00:51PM SECTION 1 AS ZONING CLASSIFICATION RS-75 RESIDENTIAL FAMILY
03:00:55PM TO PD SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE
03:00:59PM BASED ON EVIDENCE FROM THE -- FROM STAFF REPORTS.
03:01:05PM >> SECOND.
03:01:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:01:09PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:01:12PM IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
03:01:16PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:01:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
03:01:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:01:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:01:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
03:01:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
03:01:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:01:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:01:25PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED -- MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON,
03:01:31PM MANISCALCO, AND MIRANDA VOTING NO.
03:01:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SHALL WE TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS, PLEASE.
03:01:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
03:15:38PM WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH STAFF REPORTS AND GET STAFF BACK
03:15:41PM TO WORK.
03:15:41PM AND I TELL YOU -- EXCUSE ME.
03:15:43PM I PROMISE YOU THAT THE REST OF THE AGENDA WILL RUN SMOOTHLY.
03:15:46PM THANK YOU.
03:15:47PM WE ARE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.
03:15:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I HAD TALKED TO NICOLE OF
03:15:54PM CONTINUING NUMBER 8.
03:15:55PM AND I TALKED CAN TO MISS ZELMAN OF CONTINUING NUMBER 10.
03:15:59PM NUMBER 8, THE FIRE CHIEF IS STILL DETERMINING WHAT HER NEEDS
03:16:03PM ARE BEFORE WE CAN DECIDE IF WE WANT THIS ZONED SOMETHING
03:16:07PM ELSE.
03:16:07PM SO WE TALKED ABOUT CONTINUING THIS.
03:16:10PM SORRY I DIDN'T LOOK AT DATES.
03:16:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE YOU ARE, MISS TRAVIS.
03:16:16PM ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT?
03:16:17PM YES, YOU ARE.
03:16:17PM YOU ARE MUTED.
03:16:18PM THE KEY UP WITH ME, EVERYBODY.
03:16:26PM NEW TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE HERE.
03:16:28PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I WENT BACK TO MY OFFICE.
03:16:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU CONCUR ON THIS?
03:16:33PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, I DO.
03:16:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION.
03:16:36PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: A DATE AND TIME.
03:16:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: IS NOVEMBER 3 OKAY?
03:16:41PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I AM NOT SURE IF CHIEF TRIPP.
03:16:44PM WE CAN DO NOVEMBER 3.
03:16:45PM IF WE CAN'T MAKE THAT IF THE ANALYSIS IS NOT COMPLETE, WE
03:16:49PM WILL UPDATE YOU.
03:16:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS
03:16:52PM CONCERNED WHAT IT MIGHT BE USED FOR.
03:16:53PM I THINK FIRE STATION WILL BE GREAT.
03:16:55PM BUT IF IT IS NOT USED FOR A FIRE STATION, THEY HAVE OTHER
03:16:58PM IDEAS THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO.
03:17:00PM I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL NOVEMBER 3.
03:17:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CHARLESTON -- CHIEF, I DID NOT
03:17:10PM SEE YOU THERE.
03:17:11PM >> I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE BUTTON.
03:17:13PM NOVEMBER 3 WILL BE A BAD DAY FOR ME BUT I WILL HAVE SOMEONE
03:17:17PM IN THE PLACE IF THAT IS THE FINAL DECISION.
03:17:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW ABOUT DECEMBER 1.
03:17:23PM >> THAT IS BETTER, THANK YOU.
03:17:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL NOVEMBER
03:17:27PM 1.
03:17:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT TIME, 10:30.
03:17:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
03:17:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:17:37PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:17:38PM ALL IN FAVOR.
03:17:39PM OPPOSED.
03:17:41PM THE OTHER AGENDA ITEM?
03:17:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: NUMBER 10.
03:17:44PM I TALKED TO MISS ZELMAN WHO WOULD JUST LIKE MORE TIME.
03:17:48PM SHE AND I ARE DISCUSSING IDEAS.
03:17:49PM IF YOU HAVE IDEAS, TALK TO HER ABOUT IT.
03:17:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OBJECTION FROM COUNCIL.
03:17:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE MOVE IT TO NOVEMBER 3.
03:17:57PM WHEN DO YOU WANT TO MOVE IT TOO.
03:17:59PM THIS IS NOVEMBER 10.
03:18:00PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: SORRY, ANDREA ZELMAN.
03:18:07PM YOU HAVE A WORKSHOP AT THE END OF OCTOBER AND KEEPING WITH
03:18:12PM THAT THEME OF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, I ANY IT WILL
03:18:17PM MAKE SENSE TO ADD IT TO THAT WORKSHOP AGENDA.
03:18:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: NOVEMBER --
03:18:22PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: DOESN'T MEAN WE WON'T TALK IN BETWEEN.
03:18:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: CONTINUE CMU.
03:18:28PM WOULD LIKE TO COVER FOR THE WORKSHOP.
03:18:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:18:39PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:18:41PM ANY OPPOSED.
03:18:44PM THANK YOU.
03:18:45PM NUMBER 9.
03:18:47PM WHERE IS VIERA, HE WOULD HAVE SAID A BEATLES SONG.
03:18:58PM >>BRAD BAIRD: GOOD AFTERNOON, BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY
03:19:06PM ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:19:07PM THIS IS A QUARTERLY REPORT FOR STORMWATER.
03:19:10PM BUT I UNDERSTOOD COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK PULLED IT FOR
03:19:13PM DISCUSSION ON SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS STORMWATER
03:19:16PM IMPROVEMENT I ASK IF I COULD MAKE A FEW COMMENTS TO PUT IT
03:19:25PM INTO PERSPECTIVE BEFORE WE GET INTO A DISCUSSION, I WOULD
03:19:28PM APPRECIATE THAT, IF THAT IS OKAY WITH CHAIR.
03:19:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURE, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
03:19:36PM >> I HAVE HEARD THE COMMENTS THIS MORNING.
03:19:38PM AND I HAVE READ READ THE WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE THAT HAS
03:19:45PM BEEN SENT IN THROUGHOUT.
03:19:46PM I HAVE BEEN OUT ON THE PROJECT SEVERAL TIMES.
03:19:48PM AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO ENDEAVOR TO RESOLVE ANY ISSUE AS
03:19:55PM FAST AS WE CAN.
03:19:57PM WE KEEP A LOG ON THAT TO TRY TO RESOLVE THOSE.
03:20:00PM JUST IN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF AUGUST, WE HAD THREE PAGES
03:20:06PM WORTH OF ISSUES THAT WE HAVE PROBABLY RESOLVED OVER 80%.
03:20:10PM SO THAT GIVES AN IDEA.
03:20:13PM I WANTED TO ADDRESS A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP
03:20:18PM THIS MORNING.
03:20:19PM AS QUICK AS I CAN.
03:20:21PM COMMUNICATIONS.
03:20:23PM WE HAVE HAD -- WE HAVE RETAINED A FIRM BY THE NAME OF
03:20:31PM DIALOGUE.
03:20:32PM THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE A WHILE.
03:20:34PM I HAVE WORKED WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THAT COMPANY FOR OVER 25
03:20:38PM YEARS.
03:20:38PM SHE IS USED BY SEVERAL UTILITIES INCLUDING TAMPA BAY WATER
03:20:42PM AND HAS PERFORMED ADMIRABLY.
03:20:46PM SHE HAS PUT IN PLACE A PRETTY ROBUST COMMUNICATION SYSTEM,
03:20:51PM INCLUDING WEB ALERTS ALMOST DAILY.
03:20:54PM AND, OF COURSE, THE WEB PAGE IS KEPT UP TO DATE.
03:21:01PM 161 PEOPLE HAVE OPTED INTO THE WEB ALERTS, AND THE WEB SITE
03:21:08PM IS FREQUENTED OR VISITED QUITE A BIT.
03:21:13PM VERY FREQUENTLY.
03:21:14PM I WOULD ASK ONE THING IN THE COMMUNICATIONS.
03:21:18PM WE SEEMED TO HAVE HAD SOME DIFFICULTIES WITH SOME OF THE
03:21:22PM RESIDENTS COMING UP TO THE WORKERS AND GETTING THE PROPER
03:21:26PM INFORMATION.
03:21:26PM SO WE ARE TRYING TO DO A BETTER JOB OF IDENTIFYING THE
03:21:32PM INSPECTOR THAT ARE ON-SITE SO THE RESIDENTS CAN GET THE
03:21:35PM PROPER INFORMATION.
03:21:36PM THEY DO WEAR CITY UNIFORMS AND VESTS AND A HARD HAT.
03:21:41PM AND WE DO HAVE TWO FULL-TIME INSPECTORS ON THIS JOB WHICH IS
03:21:46PM UNUSUAL.
03:21:46PM HOWEVER, IT IS A RATHER LARGE JOB.
03:21:50PM WITH REGARD TO IT THE TRASH, WE HEAR THE RESIDENTS LOUD AND
03:21:56PM CLEAR.
03:21:56PM THAT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE.
03:21:58PM AND SO THE CONTRACTOR IS PROVIDING TRASH BAGS OUT.
03:22:04PM YOU KNOW ON VARIOUS PARTS OF THE PROJECT AND FAIRLY SPREAD
03:22:08PM OUT TO TRY TO GET THE PROJECT DONE.
03:22:10PM AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE -- NELSON HAS SOMEONE WALKING
03:22:15PM THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND PICKING UP ANY CRASH THAT IS NOT PUT
03:22:20PM IN THE BAGS DURING THE DAY.
03:22:21PM AND THEN THEY ARE TAKING PICTURES TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW,
03:22:26PM THAT WHEN IT IS CLEANED UP THAT THE TRASH DIDN'T COME FROM
03:22:30PM SOMEWHERE ELSE OR -- I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD BRING THIS UP,
03:22:35PM BUT WE EVEN HAD A CASE WHERE WE WITNESSED ONE OF THE
03:22:39PM RESIDENTS DUMPING OUT THE TRASH BAG ON HER FRONT LAWN AND
03:22:42PM TAKING A PICTURE AND PUTTING THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
03:22:47PM AND WE HAD SOME OTHER ISSUES WITH THAT RESIDENT.
03:22:51PM THEN NUMBER 4, I WANTED TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF A PROJECT OF
03:22:59PM THIS MAGNITUDE, WHAT YOU CAN RUN INTO.
03:23:01PM IT'S A THREE-YEAR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
03:23:06PM AND -- OF MAJOR CONSTRUCTION.
03:23:08PM THE DOWN STREAM END IS A 5 X 8 BOX THAT YOU CAN WALK
03:23:15PM THROUGH.
03:23:16PM VERY TIGHT STREETS IN THAT AREA AS SEVERAL OF YOU KNOW.
03:23:20PM SO WE -- THAT FIRST PART ON CREST AVENUE WE ARE BEHIND ON
03:23:26PM THAT.
03:23:27PM AND WE ARE OVERALL AHEAD OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WHICH
03:23:35PM IS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETE IN NOVEMBER OF 2024.
03:23:37PM BUT ON CREST, UNFORTUNATELY, WE RAN INTO WAY MORE UNSUITABLE
03:23:43PM FILL THAN WE THOUGHT WE WOULD.
03:23:44PM WE HAD COUPLE OF SECTIONS OF THAT BOX COLOR THAT -- I WON'T
03:23:51PM SAY DEFECTIVE, BUT WE REJECTED THEM AND THEY HAD TO BE
03:23:54PM CORRECTED.
03:23:55PM AND THEN WE HAD SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES LIKE WE HAVE ON EVERY
03:24:02PM PROJECT.
03:24:02PM SPECIFICALLY ON THIS PROJECT WAS SAND AND CONCRETE SHORTAGE
03:24:06PM THAT IMPACTED SCHEDULE OF THE FIRST PART OF CREST AVENUE.
03:24:10PM RIGHT NOW, I DID TALK TO THE PRESIDENT THIS MORNING AT
03:24:13PM LENGTH.
03:24:14PM AND ON CREST, I ASKED HIM IF I COULD MOVE UP THE
03:24:21PM RESTORATION, BECAUSE THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP
03:24:23PM NOT ONLY THIS MORNING BUT IN SOME E-MAILS THAT WE -- WE
03:24:27PM WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME RESTORATION DONE, YOU KNOW, CLOSER TO
03:24:30PM THE WORK.
03:24:31PM AND SO I ASKED JEFF NELSON, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT, IF WE
03:24:36PM COULD MOVE THAT -- YOU KNOW, MOVE THAT UP ON CREST AND GIVE
03:24:39PM THEM SOME RELIEF THERE.
03:24:41PM AND -- AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN WITH ONE BIG IF.
03:24:48PM WE HAVE TWO GRAND TREES THAT AT FIRST WE THOUGHT WE COULD
03:24:52PM SAVE, BUT WE -- WE NOW NEED TO REMOVE THEM.
03:24:56PM SO WE HAVE PUT IN A PERMIT APPLICATION TO REMOVE THOSE TWO
03:25:01PM TREES, AND ONCE THEY ARE REMOVED, WE CAN DO THE RESTORATION
03:25:05PM ON CREST AND CATCH UP TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE PUTTING IN
03:25:08PM THAT BOX CULVERT.
03:25:09PM AND THEN I DID WANT -- THE OUTFALL KEEPS COMING UP.
03:25:14PM AND I AM ALMOST FINISHED -- ALMOST FINISHED.
03:25:18PM THE OUTFALL.
03:25:19PM IF I CAN USE THE ELMO.
03:25:20PM SO -- THE OUTFALL STRUCTURE -- YOU KNOW WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
03:25:30PM THAT NO TRASH GETS INTO THE RIVER, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS
03:25:33PM LARGE OF A SYSTEM THAT WILL CARRY 60 TO 85 MILLION GALLONS A
03:25:40PM DAY.
03:25:40PM THAT IS BIG FLOW.
03:25:41PM SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BOXES SHOWN THERE ON THE ELMO IS --
03:25:46PM IT IS A LARGE STRUCTURE.
03:25:48PM AND IT HAS A TRASH REMOVAL SYSTEM AS PART OF IT.
03:25:52PM IT IS ALSO A BAFFLE BOX TO REMOVE SOME OF THE NUTRIENTS AND
03:25:59PM FILTRATION THAT GETS INTO THE SYSTEM.
03:26:03PM THAT IS A RATHER LARGE OUTFALL STRUCTURE AS YOU SAW THIS
03:26:07PM MORNING.
03:26:07PM WE WILL BE BRINGING THE GRADE UP TO IT THE EDGES SO THAT
03:26:11PM WILL NOT BE STICKING TWO FEET ABOVE.
03:26:13PM AND THE DESIGN TEAM RIGHT NOW IS LOOKING INTO LANDSCAPING TO
03:26:18PM TRY TO SOFTEN -- YOU KNOW, THAT AREA AROUND THERE.
03:26:23PM WE WILL HAVE TO KEEP ONE SIDE OPEN FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES,
03:26:27PM BUT I THINK WE CAN DO A LOT BETTER THAN JUST PUTTING GRASS
03:26:30PM THERE.
03:26:31PM AND LET'S SEE.
03:26:35PM LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE WORKED WITH NELSON
03:26:40PM CONSTRUCTION FOR DECADES.
03:26:42PM AND EVERY PROJECT THEY HAVE DONE HAS BEEN EXCELLENT.
03:26:48PM THEY ARE ONE OF OUR TOP CONTRACTORS.
03:26:51PM THEY PERFORMED THE 34th STREET IMPROVEMENTS RECENTLY.
03:26:54PM THEY DID THE LAST LEG OF THE RIVERWALK.
03:26:57PM BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE -- WERE JUST -- ENDED UP WITH A
03:27:02PM HIGH QUALITY -- YOU KNOW, HIGH QUALITY WORK.
03:27:04PM THEY HAVE DONE THE BALUSTRADE WORK.
03:27:07PM AND MANY OTHER PROJECTS THROUGH THE YEARS.
03:27:11PM WE HAVE BEEN VERY PLEASED WITH OUR QUALITY OF WORK.
03:27:14PM AND WITH THAT, I WILL END THERE AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER
03:27:17PM QUESTIONS.
03:27:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:27:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY RESTORATION.
03:27:24PM >>BRAD BAIRD: I AM SORRY.
03:27:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU TALK RESTORATION OF.
03:27:31PM >>BRAD BAIRD: RESTORATION OF THE ROADWAY.
03:27:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU MEAN EXPAND IT MORE.
03:27:35PM >>BRAD BAIRD: NO, THE PAVEMENT.
03:27:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SOMETIMES THE TERMINOLOGY.
03:27:38PM AND I APPRECIATE THAT UPDATE, BUT I -- I WILL BE HONEST, IT
03:27:44PM IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HEARD BEFORE FROM THE CITY AT SEVERAL
03:27:47PM DIFFERENT MEETINGS I HAVE BEEN AT.
03:27:49PM AND IN CONTRAST, I WAS JUST AT TAMPA HEIGHTS MEET WITH FDOT,
03:27:57PM AND IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY AND FDOT, HOW
03:28:02PM CONTENTIOUS THOSE ARE, AND THEY CAN SAY NOTHING BUT NICE
03:28:06PM THINGS ABOUT THE -- ABOUT HOW FDOT IS -- TREATING THE
03:28:13PM RESIDENTS AND CLEANING UP AFTER THEMSELVES.
03:28:17PM IF I CAN PRAISE FDOT OVER WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE CITY,
03:28:21PM THERE IS NOT GOOD.
03:28:22PM FDOT HAS LEARNED FROM ITS WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS.
03:28:28PM AND WHILE NELSON MAY BE EXCELLENT AT WHAT THEY DO
03:28:32PM CONSTRUCTION WISE, WE NEED AN IMPROVEMENT WITH THE SOFT
03:28:36PM TOUCH BASICALLY.
03:28:37PM WE NEED IMPROVEMENT WITH COMMUNICATION.
03:28:39PM WE NEED IMPROVEMENT WITH TRASH.
03:28:41PM WE NEED TO START SEEING THOSE BECAUSE WE KEEP HEARING THAT
03:28:46PM IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
03:28:48PM WHILE THEY MAY BE VERY GREAT AT ENGINEERING, WHAT THEY ARE
03:28:52PM NOT GOOD AT, EVEN WITH THIS DIALOGUE COMPANY, THEY ARE NOT
03:28:56PM DOING WHAT THE RESIDENTS AND THEN -- AS COUNCIL, WE ARE
03:29:02PM HEARING ABOUT IT CONSTANTLY.
03:29:03PM SO WE DO -- WE DO NEED SOME IMPROVEMENT.
03:29:08PM WHILE I HEAR WHAT HIGH TEMPERATURE SAYING, THE RESIDENTS
03:29:11PM FEEL LIKE THEY AREN'T GETTING ENOUGH COMMUNICATION OF THINGS
03:29:15PM HAPPENING CLOSE TO THEM.
03:29:16PM THEY ARE ASKING FOR MORE DOOR HANGERS AND ASKING FOR A MORE
03:29:20PM WEEKLY WRAP-UP.
03:29:22PM AS YOU SAID A LARGE PROJECTS.
03:29:23PM SO EVEN IF IT IS JUST THE SCALE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN
03:29:28PM THEIR AREAS, THEY WANT MORE COMMUNICATION AND I FEEL LIKE
03:29:32PM THAT IS IN THE GRAND SCHEME SOMETHING VERY CHEAP THAT WE CAN
03:29:36PM GIVE THEM.
03:29:36PM IF WE ARE OVERCOMMUNICATING, I THINK THAT IS OKAY BECAUSE
03:29:41PM THIS GROUP IS THE ONLY VERY FIRST GROUP THAT WILL BE
03:29:46PM AFFECTED.
03:29:46PM WILL HAVE THIS ELSEWHERE AND I HATE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT
03:29:52PM THIS STARTS WITH, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT FOR
03:29:55PM THREE MORE YEARS.
03:29:56PM WE WOULD LOVE TO SOLVE THIS COMMUNICATION AND TRASH PROBLEM
03:29:59PM AND ALL THAT.
03:30:00PM I UNDERSTAND THAT SUPPLY AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT IS -- IS
03:30:04PM -- IS HOLDING EVERYONE UP.
03:30:06PM THAT IS COMPLETELY REASONABLE BUT ALLOWING THE RESIDENTS
03:30:17PM KNOW MORE WHAT IS COMING ON WILL BE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL.
03:30:20PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK.
03:30:27PM TO HAVE DIALOGUE WITH NELSON.
03:30:31PM AND HOW CAN WE RAMP UP THIS.
03:30:33PM I DON'T CARE IF WE GO DOOR TO DOOR.
03:30:35PM AND WE HAVE DONE THAT.
03:30:37PM WE HAVE DONE THAT.
03:30:38PM WE NEED TO DO BETTER IN THAT AREA.
03:30:40PM I AGREE.
03:30:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:30:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:30:45PM YOU KNOW MY DISTRICT HAD SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF STORMWATER
03:30:50PM PROJECTS BEFORE THIS WAS IN THE WEST SHORE AREA AND ESTRELLA
03:30:57PM AND WHAT NOT AND KIMMONS ON THAT PROJECT WHO WERE AND HAVE
03:31:01PM BEEN WONDERFUL.
03:31:02PM UP CALL JOHN, THE PROJECT MANAGER, THE BOSS OVER THERE,
03:31:05PM ALWAYS AN END AND HAULS A RESPONSE AND SOLUTION AND ROUGH
03:31:08PM FOR THOSE RESIDENTS.
03:31:09PM I CAN SHOW YOU ALL THE PICTURES OF MYSELF GOING DOWN THERE
03:31:17PM SEEING WHAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH AND GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE
03:31:20PM WISE COMPARED TO THIS, AND THIS -- IF YOU LOOK AT SOCIAL
03:31:24PM MEDIA, IT IS A DAILY OCCURRENCE.
03:31:26PM THE FOLKS ON CREST AND THROUGHOUT THAT AREA, WE HAVE ALREADY
03:31:30PM MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE.
03:31:41PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK -- I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR GOING T
03:31:44PM FLORIDA AVENUE TO THE BUSINESSES THERE.
03:31:46PM BUT THE SHUTDOWN -- THE COMPLAINTS I AM GETTING THAT THE
03:31:49PM TRUCKS ON-SITE ARE BLOCKING THE BUSINESSES.
03:31:50PM AND THE -- YOU KNOW THEY ARE PARKED IN FRONT -- THE ROAD IS
03:31:54PM SHUT DOWN, SO THEY ARE PARKING WHEREVER THEY BEEN AT.
03:31:56PM BUT THESE FOLKS ARE SUFFERING.
03:31:59PM YOU KNOW THE FINANCIAL HIT THAT THEY ARE TAKING.
03:32:01PM I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT IS.
03:32:02PM YOU LOSE A WEEK OF BUSINESS, IT CAN BE CATASTROPHIC.
03:32:08PM THESE FOLKS ARE DEALING WITH IT FOR WEEKS ON A MAJOR
03:32:11PM THOROUGHFARE CLOSURE.
03:32:14PM AND OTHER THAN THAT I TRY TO BE RESPONSIVE WITH TRASH
03:32:18PM EVERYWHERE.
03:32:18PM ONE WORKER GOT INTO A FIGHT THERE ON CREST AND WAS TAKEN OFF
03:32:23PM THE JOB.
03:32:23PM I NEVER HAD THAT FROM KIMMONS.
03:32:26PM MAYBE THEY JUST GOT LUCKY AND THAT WAS A MAJOR PRODUCT, BUT
03:32:30PM THIS IS BRUTAL DAY IN OR DAY OUT.
03:32:32PM WE NEED TO DO BETTER AND NEED TO OFFER THEM ANSWERS.
03:32:36PM BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING COMPLAINTS EVERY FEW HOURS.
03:32:38PM NOT DAILY, SOMETHING NEW, MORNING AND NIGHT SOMETHING
03:32:41PM DIFFERENT.
03:32:41PM AND THE FOLKS THERE DESERVE BETTER.
03:32:45PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK.
03:32:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE.
03:32:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE MORE THING.
03:32:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:32:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU COME BACK NEXT WEEK
03:32:55PM AND REPORT ON WHAT YOU ARE ABLE TO DO.
03:32:57PM WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC TIME BUT MAYBE AT THE BEGINNING OF
03:33:00PM EVENING SESSION.
03:33:01PM >>BRAD BAIRD: BEGINNING OF WHAT?
03:33:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EVENING SESSION ON THE 8th.
03:33:07PM IS THAT POSSIBLE?
03:33:08PM CAN WE DO THAT?
03:33:09PM I AM JUST ASKING IF IT IS ALLOWED.
03:33:11PM I DON'T FEEL WE CAN WAIT TWO WEEKS FOR THIS.
03:33:14PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE NORMALLY DON'T DO STAFF REPORTS IN THE
03:33:17PM EVENING.
03:33:18PM I GUESS YOU CAN WAIVE YOUR RULES TO HAVE ONE.
03:33:20PM BUT TYPICALLY STAFF REPORTS ARE RESERVED FOR THE MORNING
03:33:24PM AGENDA.
03:33:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FIVE MINUTES.
03:33:29PM >>BRAD BAIRD: CAN I REQUEST FOR TWO WEEKS FOR THAT, PLEASE.
03:33:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY ONLY CONCERN FOR TWO WEEKS, IS THIS
03:33:38PM BUSINESS -- THE BUSINESS ISSUE IS SUPPOSED TO BE OVER THIS
03:33:40PM THREE WEEKS.
03:33:41PM I DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY CAN AFFORD TWO MORE WEEKS OF TRUCKS
03:33:47PM SITTING AND BLOCKING THE ENTRANCE TO THEIR BUSINESSES BUT I
03:33:52PM WILL YIELD TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO ON THAT POINT.
03:33:54PM HOW DO YOU FEEL?
03:33:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW IT IS NOT TYPICAL PROTOCOL FOR
03:33:59PM YOU TO COME AT 5:01 P.M., BUT CONSIDERING THE SENSITIVITY
03:34:05PM WITH THE TIME.
03:34:06PM THESE FOLKS ARE HURT ON A DAILY BASIS.
03:34:09PM WE CAN ONLY GO OUT THERE AND BUY SO MUCH SPATTY'S COFFEE
03:34:17PM PROMOTE THEM AND ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE.
03:34:19PM THE REVENUE THEY ARE LOSING AND HOW THEY ARE EFFECTED.
03:34:22PM I EXPECT IMAGINE.
03:34:24PM THESE BUSINESSES THAT SURVIVED THROUGH COVID AND SOME OF THE
03:34:27PM WORST, AND THEY JUST KEEP GETTING HIT OVER AND OVER SO I
03:34:33PM KNOW IT IS NOT TYPICAL, BUT -- IF YOU ARE HERE AT 5:00 NEXT
03:34:38PM THURSDAY, JUST FIVE-MINUTE UPDATE.
03:34:49PM I WOULD SUPPORT THE MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:34:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS WHAT I WILL DO.
03:34:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I ADD, RESIDENTS BETWEEN FLORIDA AND
03:35:01PM HIGHLANDS WHERE THEIR ACCESS TO THEIR HOME IS BEING BLOCKED
03:35:07PM WHEEL PEOPLE ARE WAITING FOR THEIR KIDS AT HILLSBOROUGH HIGH
03:35:10PM SCHOOL.
03:35:10PM I AM TALKING TO CHIEF O'CONNOR.
03:35:12PM SHE IS WORK ON IT.
03:35:14PM BUT IF YOU CAN MAYBE GET ANOTHER TPD PERSONNEL TO MAKE SURE
03:35:21PM THAT LINE IS MOVING QUICKLY BECAUSE WE KNOW CARS SHOULD NOT
03:35:24PM BE STANDING THERE.
03:35:25PM PLEASE, AND THANK YOU.
03:35:27PM >>BRAD BAIRD: UNDERSTOOD.
03:35:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:35:33PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:35:34PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
03:35:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH AGENDA NUMBER 9.
03:35:42PM AGENDA ITEM 11.
03:35:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 11 AND 12 HAVE BEEN CONTINUED.
03:35:53PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MEMO FROM MISS ZELMAN AND ME REGARDING
03:35:59PM THAT.
03:35:59PM IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM TODAY.
03:36:01PM WE DID NOT WANT TO HOLD IT UP.
03:36:03PM IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE IT MAYBE TO THE 15 WHEN MR. SHELBY
03:36:07PM WILL BE RETURNING, THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE FOR YOU
03:36:10PM ALL TO CONSIDER.
03:36:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD RATHER CONTINUE IT UNTIL THE
03:36:14PM 15th WHEN MR. SHELBY IS PRESENT WHEN ALL PARTIES ARE HERE
03:36:18PM UNDER STAFF REPORT.
03:36:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:36:26PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:36:29PM 13 ITEM NUMBER E2021-8, CHAPTER 18.
03:36:40PM >> DEPUTY CHIEF FROM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
03:36:43PM AUGUST 4, YOU HAD A PRESENTATION OF BODY-WORN CAMERAS AND
03:36:48PM YOU WANTED US TO GO BACK AND CHECK IF THE COMPANY AXON CAN
03:36:53PM ADD THAT TO THE CATALOG OF UPGRADING THEIR SYSTEM.
03:36:56PM WE GAVE THEM A CALL ON AUGUST 9
03:36:59PM WE WEREN'T THE ONLY POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY TO
03:37:02PM RECOMMEND THAT.
03:37:02PM THEY ARE GOING TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THEIR TECHNOLOGY TO
03:37:06PM FIND OUT IF THEY CAN IMPROVE IT.
03:37:08PM THEY WOULDN'T GIVE US A TIME WHEN IT WILL BE DONE OR WHAT
03:37:10PM THEY COULD DO, BUT WE WILL FOLLOW UP PERIODICALLY TO FIND
03:37:15PM WHERE THEY ARE AT AND WHAT STAGE THEY ARE IN.
03:37:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M SATISFIED WITH THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO
03:37:23PM ADD IT TO -- BECAUSE I AM HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THEY ARE
03:37:27PM FOLLOWING LOOK AT IT AND OTHER CITIES ARE ASKING FOR THE
03:37:29PM SAME -- HAVING THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT WE DO.
03:37:31PM I THINK THAT -- THAT IS A GOOD SIGN.
03:37:33PM SO IF WE CAN -- IF WE CAN MOVE OR IF WE CAN GET JUST MAYBE A
03:37:42PM WRITTEN UPDATE IN THREE MONTHS.
03:37:47PM >> THAT'S FINE, YES.
03:37:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TO SEE IF THEY HAD ANY MOVEMENT.
03:37:53PM I DON'T WANT IT TO FALL OFF THE RADAR.
03:37:56PM DECEMBER 1.
03:37:58PM JUST A QUICK WRITTEN UPDATE ON THAT.
03:38:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:38:04PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:38:05PM ALL IN FAVOR.
03:38:07PM OPPOSED.
03:38:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK, WHILE YOU ARE HERE.
03:38:10PM I JUST WANT TO SAY PUBLICLY THANK YOU.
03:38:12PM I SAW YOU AT AN EVENT, I DON'T KNOW, TWO MONTHS LOOK AND I
03:38:16PM HAD A CONSTITUENT ISSUE AND YOU WERE THERE HAVING A GOOD
03:38:19PM TIME ENJOYING THE EVENT, BUT YOU WERE VERY RESPONSIVE.
03:38:22PM THE RESIDENTS YOU ARE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH ARE VERY
03:38:27PM GRATEFUL, BUT I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT, NO MATTER WHAT,
03:38:30PM YOU WERE THERE.
03:38:31PM WE APPRECIATE VERY MUCH.
03:38:34PM >> VICE VERSA.
03:38:35PM I DEAL WITH A LOT OF Y'ALL ON COMMUNITY ISSUES AND Y'ALL GET
03:38:39PM THE LAST-MINUTE REQUEST SOMETIMES LIKE THAT AND YOU DEAL
03:38:42PM WITH THE SAME THING.
03:38:43PM WHEN YOU ARE UP HERE AND WHEN YOU ARE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
03:38:46PM .THINGS GO BACK TO YOU ALSO.
03:38:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
03:38:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, DID SOMEONE PULL ITEM NUMBER 21?
03:38:59PM I DON'T KNOW IF HE WOULD LIKE TO STAY -- I WOULD LIKE TO
03:39:04PM PULL THAT TO VOTE SEPARATELY.
03:39:05PM AND ALSO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MASSEY.
03:39:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL SECOND TO PULL IT.
03:39:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:39:13PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:39:15PM ALL IN FAVOR.
03:39:16PM NOW WE WILL STEP INTO -- OKAY, LET'S HEAR THAT FIRST.
03:39:21PM IF WE DO NOT MIND.
03:39:23PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21, FILE PS 22-7668.
03:39:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.
03:39:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:39:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS ONE WE DIDN'T VOTE ON LAST WEEK,
03:39:45PM CORRECT?
03:39:45PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: CORRECT.
03:39:46PM WE DIDN'T VOTE ON IT LAST WEEK.
03:39:48PM IT WAS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
03:39:50PM I BELIEVE THERE IS A REPORT COMING BACK TO YOU I BELIEVE AT
03:39:53PM THE END OF OCTOBER ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
03:39:54PM THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER -- AND I HAD ASKED YOU AT THE END
03:39:58PM OF THE MEETING WHETHER YOU INTENDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
03:40:01PM AMENDMENT OR NOT.
03:40:01PM AND THE INTENT WAS AND NO VOTE TAKEN.
03:40:05PM THAT IS HOW I UNDERSTOOD WHAT HAPPENED AT THE END OF THE
03:40:09PM MEETING.
03:40:09PM TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND, I BELIEVE THIS AMENDMENT IS IN
03:40:15PM CONNECTION WITH -- PARTIALLY IN CONNECTION WITH SERVICES
03:40:17PM THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN RENDERED IN CONNECTION WITH THIS
03:40:20PM PROGRAM.
03:40:21PM SO WE ARE CATCHING UP.
03:40:22PM IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH I THINK
03:40:27PM IN FAIRLY SHORT ORDER.
03:40:28PM >> HE'S RIGHT, SIR.
03:40:34PM THESE ARE FOR SERVICES ALREADY REND DERRS.
03:40:37PM THAT IS WHAT THIS VOTE IS FOR.
03:40:39PM IN OCTOBER THERE WILL BE A PRESENTATION REGARDING SHOT
03:40:43PM SPOTTER TO GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION.
03:40:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:40:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE HEARD -- I HAD PEOPLE IN LAW
03:40:49PM ENFORCEMENT, INCLUDING CITY OF TAMPA CALL ME ABOUT THIS.
03:40:52PM AND IT -- FROM THE PEOPLE WHO CALLED ME THERE SEEMS TO BE
03:40:57PM UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT THAT THIS SERVICE IS NOT EFFECTIVE.
03:41:01PM AND IT WAS A -- A SERVICE THAT WE TOOK ON BECAUSE THE -- I
03:41:05PM THINK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GAVE US A GRANT, BUT -- BUT THE
03:41:08PM WAY THE NUMBERS ARE PRESENTED BY THE COMPANY, IT LOOKS LIKE
03:41:11PM IT IS VERY EFFECTIVE, BUT TALK TOO PEOPLE WHO USE IT SEEMS
03:41:16PM TO NOT BE VERY EFFECTIVE.
03:41:17PM SO I -- IF YOU ARE SAYING WE ARE ALREADY OBLIGATE THAT THIS
03:41:21PM SERVICE HAS ALREADY BEEN RENDERED AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION
03:41:25PM TO PAY.
03:41:26PM I WILL VOTE FOR IT TODAY BUT NOT VOTE FOR THE RENEWAL OF IT.
03:41:29PM WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND WE NEED TOOLS
03:41:33PM THAT WORK.
03:41:33PM YEAH, THE -- JUST TO CUT THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
03:41:37PM THE ISSUE IS THE COMPANY SAYS 90% OF GUNSHOTS ARE NEVER
03:41:42PM REPORTED BY 911.
03:41:43PM BUT -- BUT THE ACTUAL VIOLENT CRIMES, MY UNDERSTANDING, IS
03:41:51PM 100% OR CLOSE TO 100% ARE REPORTED BY 911.
03:41:56PM AND THE OFFICERS WHO SPOKEN AND GONE OUT TO USE THIS, MOST
03:42:00PM OF THE TEAM THEY ARE LOOKING AT SPENT BULLETS ON THE GROUND
03:42:03PM AND THIS HE DON'T FIND ANYTHING AND A WASTE OF POLICE
03:42:05PM RESOURCES THAT COULD BE USED ON SOMETHING ELSE.
03:42:08PM >> JUST TO ANSWER THAT.
03:42:09PM I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU SPOKE TO, BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO
03:42:13PM FINDING THE ROUNDS ON THE GROUND, THEY ARE AN INTRICATE PART
03:42:16PM OF OUR INVESTIGATION, LONG-TERM ON MANY CASES.
03:42:19PM WE HAVE A SYSTEM CALLED NIVEN THAT GETS THOSE ROUNDS AND
03:42:23PM PAINTS A PICTURE WHETHER IT IS ONE GUN BEING USED FOR A LOT
03:42:26PM OF SHOOTINGS OR MULTIPLE GUNS BEING USED IN THE CITY OF
03:42:31PM TAMPA.
03:42:31PM EVEN SHOW SHOT SPOTTER IS NOT AN END ALL IT IS A VALUABLE
03:42:39PM TOOL.
03:42:39PM WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE MEDICAL ASPECT OF IT, SHOOTINGS AT
03:42:44PM TIME, AND COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU GO OUT -- NOBODY WAS OUT
03:42:47PM THERE BUT SOMEBODY WAS TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL.
03:42:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE THIRD YEAR IN A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT,
03:42:53PM CORRECT?
03:42:54PM >> YES.
03:42:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: CRIME RATE HAS GOON UP MORE THAN OTHER
03:42:58PM CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUR GUN VIOLENCE RATE HAS
03:43:01PM GONE UP AND I WOULD ARGUE IT IS NOT EFFECTIVE AND WE NEED TO
03:43:04PM SAVE EVERY DOLLAR WE CAN TO SUPPORT OUR FOLKS.
03:43:06PM WITHOUT MENTIONING NAMES, CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM THAT THE
03:43:09PM PERSON THAT USED TO BE IN CHARGE OF THIS IN THE POLICE
03:43:12PM DEPARTMENT IS NOW THE -- WORKING FOR THE COMPANY AND IS THE
03:43:15PM LOCAL REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMPANY?
03:43:18PM >> THE PERSON WHO --
03:43:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THIS AWL TPD IS NOW A
03:43:24PM REPRESENTATIVE OF SHOT SPOTTER.
03:43:26PM >> WHEN IT COMES TO SHOT SPOTTER AND -- I WAS THE PREVIOUS
03:43:30PM MAJOR OF DISTRICT THREE FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS AND USED IN
03:43:34PM DISTRICT THREE.
03:43:34PM AS FAR AS HOW FOLKS ARE BRINGING TECHNOLOGY --
03:43:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: SOMEBODY --
03:43:41PM >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CAPTAIN PAUL LALINSY.
03:43:46PM HE RETIRED.
03:43:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: HE WAS WORK WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY AND WENT TO
03:43:52PM WORK FOR SHOT SPOTTER.
03:43:53PM >> YOU SAY WORK WITH TECHNOLOGY.
03:43:54PM WE HAVE OTHER COMPANIES THAT BRING TECHNOLOGY TO THE CITY OF
03:43:57PM TAMPA AND OTHER AGENCIES.
03:43:58PM HE DID RETIRE BACK IN JANUARY, I BELIEVE.
03:44:01PM BUT THERE IS -- I HAVE NO CONTROL HOW WORK FOR NEXT.
03:44:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T LIKE THESE ANSWERS.
03:44:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN WE MOVE FORWARD.
03:44:11PM DOES THAT SATISFY ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBER.
03:44:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I SAY.
03:44:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:44:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:44:19PM SO I NOTE -- WE WILL HAVE A REPORT ON THIS IN A COUPLE O
03:44:22PM MONTHS, CORRECT?
03:44:24PM >> YES.
03:44:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, SO I MEAN -- WHETHER SOMETHING IS -- HOW
03:44:31PM SHALL I SAY THIS.
03:44:32PM I GIVE SOME LEVEL OF DEFERENCE, IF YOU WILL, TO POLICE
03:44:38PM PROFESSIONALS HOW EFFECTIVE SOMETHING IS.
03:44:40PM IF THERE IS A NEGATIVE EFFECT POTENTIALLY ON CIVIL
03:44:45PM LIBERTIES, ADDITIONAL ISSUE THAT WARRANTS ADDITIONAL
03:44:48PM SCRUTINY THAT WE CAN LOOK FOR IN OCTOBER.
03:44:50PM LET ME ASK YOU IF I MAY, IN OCTOBER WHEN I THINK THIS IS
03:44:54PM COMING TOWARD RUSS, IF WE FIND OUT THERE IS AN ADVERSE
03:44:59PM EFFECT ON CIVIL LIBERTIES, CAN THIS PROGRAM BE PUSHED BACK
03:45:04PM OR PULLED BACK AT THE TIME.
03:45:06PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I BELIEVE BE THIS NEWCOMB WILL BE ABLE TO
03:45:11PM PROVIDE THAT.
03:45:13PM >> MEGAN NEWCOMB, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
03:45:17PM I REVIEWED THE CONTRACT.
03:45:19PM IT WAS PREVIOUSLY -- A TWO-YEAR -- AND THAT WAS ENTERED --
03:45:24PM AND IN DECEMBER OF 2018, IT WAS SIGNS AND WENT THROUGH BY
03:45:29PM RESOLUTION.
03:45:29PM THE PROGRAM ACTUALLY WAS IMPLEMENTED IN JUNE OF 2018.
03:45:33PM THE CONTRACT WAS FOR TWO YEARS WITH AN OPTION TO RENEW FOR
03:45:37PM TWO ADDITIONAL YEARS AT ONE YEAR EACH.
03:45:41PM SO IT HAS BEEN RENEWED.
03:45:42PM WE DID THE ORIGINAL TWO YEARS AND IT WAS RENEWED IN 2021.
03:45:47PM IN JUNE OF 2021 THROUGH JUNE OF 2022.
03:45:51PM WHAT THIS RESOLUTION IS FOR YOU ALL TO VOTE ON IS THE SECOND
03:45:55PM ONE-YEAR RENEWAL THAT WOULD RUN FROM JUNE OF THIS YEAR TO
03:45:59PM JUNE OF NEXT YEAR.
03:46:01PM SO TALKING ABOUT -- THE PROGRAM IS BEING ACTIVE.
03:46:04PM SO WE ARE GETTING THE SERVICES OF SHOT SPOTTER EVEN THOUGH
03:46:08PM THE CONTRACT ESSENTIALLY EXPIRED IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR.
03:46:11PM SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS FOR YOU TO VOTE ON WHETHER TO
03:46:15PM CONTINUE IT FROM JUNE OF 2022 TO JUNE OF 2023.
03:46:18PM TO ANSWER HE THINKS IT WAS YOU COUNCILMAN VIERA, IN OCTOBER.
03:46:23PM COULDN'T CANCEL THE CONTRACT.
03:46:25PM IF YOU WANTED TO CANCEL THE CONTRACT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO VOTE
03:46:28PM ON THAT TODAY AND THEN ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF THE SERVICES WE
03:46:32PM HAVE RECEIVED IN EXCESS THAT WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY YET TO PAY
03:46:36PM FOR.
03:46:36PM BUT THIS IS THE LAST CONTRACTUAL OPPORTUNITY TO RENEW IT.
03:46:41PM AND THEN IN JUNE OF 2023, THERE WILL BE A DECISION MADE
03:46:45PM INITIALLY BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHETHER WE WANT TO
03:46:48PM CONTINUE WITH IT AND THAT WILL HAVE TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE
03:46:50PM COUNCIL.
03:46:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION.
03:46:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:46:57PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE PROGRAM.
03:47:00PM IT HAS SOME BENEFITS TO IT.
03:47:02PM I DON'T THINK IT VIOLATES ANY CIVIL LIBERTIES, MR. VIERA.
03:47:07PM SHOTS FEARED.
03:47:09PM THE SYSTEM GOES OFF AND PINPOINTS THE AREA -- I THINK THE
03:47:14PM NEXT TEAM THEY COME A DEMONSTRATION OF HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS
03:47:17PM WILL HELP THE COUNCILMEMBERS TO KNOW WHAT IT DOES AND ITS
03:47:20PM EFFECTIVENESS.
03:47:21PM AS FAR AS TO -- WHAT MR. CARLSON -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS
03:47:26PM GOING TO ASK.
03:47:27PM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS A VERY FUNNY PLACE.
03:47:29PM AND I KNOW -- ASSISTANT CHIEF JOHNSON.
03:47:35PM CHIEF JOHNSON WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER THAT BUT HE IS NOT IN THE
03:47:39PM POSITION TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
03:47:40PM THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE CHIEF IF YOU WANT THAT
03:47:46PM QUESTION ANSWERED.
03:47:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: I APOLOGIZE FOR PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT.
03:47:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HE CAN'T ANSWER THAT ANYWAY.
03:47:55PM THAT IS PAST HIS PAY GRADE.
03:47:57PM MAYBE A DEMONSTRATION OF WHAT IT DOES AND SOME OF THE
03:47:59PM EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PROGRAM, IT BRINGS SOME BEN FITS.
03:48:03PM I DON'T THINK IT HAS A HUGE BENEFIT, BUT I THINK IT DOES
03:48:06PM HELP TO KNOW WHERE IT IS COME FROM TO KIND OF GET THERE.
03:48:10PM AND SEE WHAT IS OUT THERE.
03:48:12PM SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE NEXT THING.
03:48:14PM >> YOU SAID IT CORRECTLY.
03:48:18PM JUST FOR COUNCIL, IT IS NOT AN END ALL.
03:48:21PM BUT YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING.
03:48:22PM WHEN SHOTS ARE HAPPENING OUT THERE, AND NOBODY IS CALLING
03:48:26PM 911, AND NO OFFICER SHOWS UP, THEY ARE NOT GETTING NO
03:48:31PM SERVICES OUT THERE.
03:48:32PM WHEN SPOTLIGHTER ALERTS, THE OFFICER GOES OUT THERE
03:48:37PM IMMEDIATELY.
03:48:37PM WHETHER SOMEBODY IS OUT THERE OR NOT, THEY ARE RESPONDING
03:48:40PM WITHIN SIX FEET OF WHERE THAT SHOT OCCURRED FROM.
03:48:43PM THEY COLLECT ROUNDS AT TIMES.
03:48:45PM THEY DO NEIGHBORHOOD SURVEYS BASED ON WHAT SHOT SPOTTER
03:48:51PM GIVES US.
03:48:52PM AT TIMES FOLKS OUT THERE WHO WERE SHOOTING VICTIMS WHO ARE
03:48:55PM STILL THERE ON THE GROUND, AND THE OFFICERS ARE THERE AND
03:48:58PM NOBODY CALLS 911.
03:48:59PM OTHER TIMES, THEY ARE TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL BY SOMEONE ELSE
03:49:04PM IN THE CAR AND WITH GET THERE AND NOBODY OUT THERE.
03:49:07PM BUT WE FIND OUT WITHIN SIX OR TEN FEET WHERE THE ROUNDS ARE,
03:49:13PM WHERE IT OCCURRED AT.
03:49:14PM WE GO TO THE HOSPITAL ONCE THEY CALL US, AND THEY SAYS THERE
03:49:17PM A VICTIM HERE.
03:49:19PM NOW WE HAVE A LOCATION.
03:49:20PM THEY ARE IN TRAUMA.
03:49:21PM THEY CAN'T TALK TO TELL US EVERYTHING.
03:49:23PM WE PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER.
03:49:25PM IT IS NOT A FIX-ALL.
03:49:27PM SHOT SPOTTER IS NOT HERE TO REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME.
03:49:30PM IT IS TO ASSIST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN INVESTIGATING
03:49:34PM VIOLENT CRIME WITH GUNS.
03:49:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU GOOD.
03:49:41PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:49:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IN -- IN CONNECTION WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN
03:49:47PM VIERA SAID, THERE ARE SOME REPORTS OF PEOPLE USING THE SPOT
03:49:53PM SHORTER -- THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL CIVIL LIBERTY ISSUE WITH
03:49:59PM PEOPLE.
03:49:59PM I AM NOT SAYING IT HAPPENINGS IN TAMPA, BUT I HAVE SEEN AND
03:50:04PM READ PEOPLE USING -- OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVING THEIR
03:50:07PM OFFICERS STOPPING PEOPLE IN THE VICINITY AFTERWARDS, THAT
03:50:11PM SORT OF THING.
03:50:11PM AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAS
03:50:15PM BEEN HAPPENING HERE WHICH IS WHY I ASKED FOR A REPORT JUST
03:50:18PM TO FIND OUT WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE.
03:50:20PM HOW WE USE IT.
03:50:21PM WHAT IS THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR US AS A CITY.
03:50:24PM BECAUSE EVERY CITY AND EVERY MUNICIPALITY LOOKS AT IT
03:50:28PM DIFFERENTLY.
03:50:28PM HE MAY HAVE BEEN SPEAKING OF THINGS HE HEARD THERE.
03:50:31PM SO I JUST WANTED TO -- TO FIND OUT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
03:50:37PM -- THAT THE CITY OR HOW WE USE IT AND IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE
03:50:41PM TO USE IT IN THE FUTURE.
03:50:43PM I -- AT THIS TIME, I -- I FEEL LIKE WE ARE SO FAR AWAY FROM
03:50:49PM A REPORT.
03:50:50PM I AM -- I AM NOT OPPOSED TO CONTINUING THIS YEAR, BUT I
03:50:58PM THINK NEXT YEAR, WE MAY HAVE A LONGER MORE SUBSTANTIAL
03:51:01PM CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
03:51:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:51:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BY THE EVIDENCE OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE
03:51:07PM AND ONE OF THE UPSTANDING OFFICERS IN THE DEPARTMENT SAID IT
03:51:11PM IS NOT A CURE-ALL.
03:51:13PM AND IF YOU CAN SAVE ONE LIFE BECAUSE SOMEBODY FELL A SHELL
03:51:17PM AND HOW ABLE TO TRACE WHO IT WAS, YOU SAVE MORE THAN ONE
03:51:27PM LIFE AND YOU CAN'T HAVE A POLICEMAN STANDING IN EVERY CORNER
03:51:30PM AND I WISH WE COULD, BUT WE CAN'T.
03:51:34PM I UNDERSTAND THE CIVIL LIBERTIES SIDE OF IT, BUT AS LONG AS
03:51:38PM IT IS NOT A MEMBER OF THEIR FAMILY AND MY FAMILY, I DON'T
03:51:40PM KNOW ABOUT IT.
03:51:42PM BUT IF IT WAS, GUESS WHAT, YOU LEARN ABOUT IT REAL QUICK
03:51:52PM THESE ARE THINGS THAT YOU DO AT OTHER MEMBERS OF THE POLICE
03:51:55PM DEPARTMENT.
03:51:55PM AND SOMETIMES THERE IS A SHOOTING AND NOBODY HEARD ANYTHING.
03:51:59PM NOBODY SAW ANYTHING.
03:52:00PM NOBODY EVEN KNEW THERE WAS A KILLING AND IT HAPPENED IN
03:52:03PM FRONT OF THE HOUSE THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU FACE ON A DAILY
03:52:09PM BASIS.
03:52:10PM NOT ONLY HERE.
03:52:11PM BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHEN AVENUES
03:52:15PM COME YOUR WAY.
03:52:15PM THIS PERFECT FROM WHAT I SEE, NO.
03:52:18PM BUT NOT IMPERFECT EITHER BECAUSE GIVES YOU A TIME AND
03:52:23PM LOCATION OF WHERE TO BE AND WHERE TO LOOK AT.
03:52:25PM THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING.
03:52:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
03:52:29PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
03:52:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY.
03:52:33PM AS I SAID I HEARD A LOT OF ALTERNATIVE FEEDBACK WHICH THE
03:52:38PM FOLKS THAT TOLD ME ARE NOT HERE.
03:52:40PM BUT BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE HERE AND MY COLLEAGUE AND
03:52:45PM HEARING THAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION ALREADY, I WILL VOTE FOR
03:52:48PM THIS NOW BUT I AM VERY KEPT CAL WHEN IT COMES BACK.
03:52:54PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE THAN THE COMPANY'S NUMBERS ON
03:52:57PM RESPONSE RATE.
03:52:57PM THE QUESTION IS, WOULD -- WOULD THIS MONEY BE BETTER
03:53:01PM DEPLOYED SOMEWHERE ELSE TO SUPPORT THE POLICE.
03:53:04PM AND NUMBER TWO, IF WE HAVE POLICE SPENDING VERY LIMITED
03:53:08PM TIME.
03:53:09PM WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF CRIMES GOING ON
03:53:13PM RIGHT NOW.
03:53:14PM IF WE ARE RESPONDING AND GOING TO THE SITES AND THEY DON'T
03:53:17PM FIEND ANYTHING ELSE.
03:53:18PM IS IT REALLY HELPFUL OR SENDING TO PLACES WHERE THERE ARE
03:53:22PM ACTIVE CRIMES GOING ON.
03:53:23PM NOT QUESTIONS TO ANSWER NOW BUT WHEN IT COMES BACK.
03:53:26PM THANK YOU.
03:53:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
03:53:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY FINISH MY -- THANK YOU HAVE SIR.
03:53:33PM FROM WHAT I HEAR THIS IS A TOOL IN THE POOL BOX TO FIGHT
03:53:37PM CRIME, LIKE YOU SAID.
03:53:38PM IT IS NOT GOODBYE TO A PANACEA.
03:53:40PM NOT A HUGE TOOL, BUT APPEARS TO BE A REASONABLE TOOL AGAIN.
03:53:46PM WE HAVE TO MEASURE NOT JUST THE EFFECTIVENESS BUT IN BRIEFLY
03:53:51PM LOOKING AT THE ISSUE, SOME ARTICLES OUT THERE ON CIVIL
03:53:55PM LIBERTIES IF IT DOESN'T PROPERLY DETECT YOU SEND POLICE INTO
03:53:58PM THE AREA.
03:53:59PM BLAH-BLAH-BLAH.
03:54:00PM SETS.
03:54:01PM BUT SOMETHING I CAN SUPPORT.
03:54:02PM WE WILL LOOK AT IT IN OCTOBER.
03:54:04PM HAVE IT COME BACK TO US BUT CERTAINLY SOMETHING I CAN
03:54:10PM SUPPORT.
03:54:10PM WE HAVE AN INCREASE OF CRIME IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND MANY,
03:54:13PM MANY COMMUNITIES ARE BEGGING NOR HELP AND I COULDN'T SAY NO
03:54:19PM TO THAT GIVEN THAT PLEA AND I KNOW NOT ALL SEVEN OF US.
03:54:23PM >> JUST TO HIT ON THAT ALSO.
03:54:25PM I KNOW ALREADY ARTICLES OUT THERE FROM AROUND THE NATION
03:54:28PM THAT YOU MAY HEARD FROM OTHER PLACES.
03:54:29PM I WORK FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:54:31PM I WALK THROUGH ROBLES PARK.
03:54:33PM HE WALK THROUGH JACKSON HEIGHTS.
03:54:37PM I AM BORN AND RAISED IN TAMPA.
03:54:38PM WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE CITY OF TAMPAND EAST TAMPA
03:54:43PM SPECIFICALLY, THEY NEED THE HELP.
03:54:44PM WHEN SHOT SPOTTER GOES OFF AND WE SHOW UP, NO ONE WILL CALL
03:54:50PM 911 BECAUSE THREAT OF RETALIATION.
03:54:52PM WE WILL SHOW UP WHEN THAT SPOT SHORTER COMES OUT.
03:54:54PM CASES WHERE SHOT SPOTTER GONE OFF AND A SHOOTING OUT THERE
03:54:59PM THAT IS VERY ACTIVE.
03:55:00PM GUYS SHOW UP.
03:55:01PM THEY HAVE BEEN SHOT AT A FEW TIMES RESPONDING OUTS THERE.
03:55:04PM A PURSUIT PURSUES AND THEY GO ON TO INVEST THE INDIVIDUALS.
03:55:08PM I KNOW YOU MAY SEE THE ARTICLES THROUGHOUT THE NATION AND
03:55:11PM WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING IN CHICAGO AND WHATEVER, BUT
03:55:14PM PLEASE KEEP YOUR FOCUS ON THE CITY OF TAMPA HOW THE POLICE
03:55:18PM DEPARTMENT USES THIS TOOL AND HOW WE COMBAT OUR VIOLENT
03:55:22PM CRIME HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:55:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
03:55:25PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY.
03:55:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE THE AFOREMENTIONED ITEM ITEM NUMBER 21.
03:55:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU WANT TO DO 15 TO 21.
03:55:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION TO MORRIS ON A
03:55:43PM CONFLICT ON 19.
03:55:44PM YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR THAT?
03:55:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ASK YOUR QUESTION.
03:55:48PM I WOULD RATHER BUNDLE THESE.
03:55:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: MORRIS, SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPO THE.
03:55:54PM AS YOU HEARD BEFORE, MY FIRM REPRESENTS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
03:55:59PM AS I READ THIS, A GIFT FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO THE CITY.
03:56:02PM I DON'T THINK I HAVE OF A CONFLICT.
03:56:04PM MY FIRM DOESN'T WORK ON ANYTHING RELATED TO THE CITY OF
03:56:07PM TAMPA.
03:56:07PM AND NO BENEFIT ACCRUING TO THE SCHOOL BUSINESS.
03:56:10PM OTHER WAY AROUND.
03:56:12PM I DON'T THINK I HAVE A CONFLICT ON THAT.
03:56:13PM WOULD YOU?
03:56:15PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I DON'T BELIEVE YOU HAVE A CONFLICT IN THIS
03:56:17PM CASE.
03:56:17PM NO SPECIAL GAIN OR LOSS YOU WOULD INCUR AS A RESULT OF VOTE
03:56:22PM ON THIS AND IT IS A DONATION.
03:56:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
03:56:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:56:28PM A SECOND.
03:56:30PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:56:32PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU HAVE PARKS AND RECREATION.
03:56:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MOVE.
03:56:38PM >> SECOND.
03:56:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY
03:56:42PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:56:43PM ALL IN FAVOR.
03:56:43PM OPPOSED.
03:56:44PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU HAVE PUBLIC WORKS.
03:56:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES I MOVE TO MOVE EYE STEMS 25-34.
03:56:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
03:56:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
03:56:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
03:57:00PM CAN I JUST MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT 28.
03:57:07PM I SPOKE TO -- WHAT WAS IT, MR. JOHN, AND ONE OF THE THINGS
03:57:12PM -- JOHNSON.
03:57:15PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS HAPPENING BECAUSE OUR TIRE WASTE
03:57:18PM RATES ARE CHEAPER THAN OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES, WE ARE
03:57:21PM GETTING PEOPLE TO DUMP THEIR TIRES HERE.
03:57:23PM AND SO I ASKED HIM JUST PRIVATELY TO COME BACK TO US TO TALK
03:57:27PM ABOUT CHANGING OUR RATES IN THAT AREA.
03:57:30PM TALKED ABOUT SOUTHWEST WASTE RATES.
03:57:35PM AND IT IS COSTING US.
03:57:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:57:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:57:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN ONLY TELL YOU DRIVING IN ARMENIA,
03:57:49PM THERE WERE ABOUT TEN TIRES RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
03:57:52PM RESTAURANT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.
03:57:54PM I SAID WHAT IN THE WORLD IS THAT.
03:57:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHO IS NEXT.
03:58:01PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU HAVE FINANCE COMMITTEE MINUS 36.
03:58:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEM 35.
03:58:09PM THE ONLY ONE LEFT.
03:58:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:58:13PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:58:15PM ALL IN FAVOR.
03:58:15PM ANY OBJECTION AS SOON AS THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:58:17PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAVE BUILDING, ZONING AND
03:58:21PM PRESERVATION.
03:58:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE 37-45.
03:58:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:58:30PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:58:32PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:58:35PM OPPOSED.
03:58:36PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:58:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE 46 AND 47.
03:58:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:58:43PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:58:45PM ALL IN FAVOR.
03:58:46PM THAT MOVES US TO COMMITTEE REPORTS, CONSENT AGENDA.
03:58:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 48.
03:58:54PM SET 48 FOR OCTOBER WHICH IS E 22, CHAPTER 24.
03:58:59PM SET THAT FOR OCTOBER 6, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
03:59:05PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU ARE MOVING A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
03:59:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SUBSTITUTE OF 48 AT 9:30 A.M.
03:59:12PM
03:59:14PM SECOND.
03:59:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:59:18PM HAVE WE DONE 47?
03:59:20PM WE ARE AT 47 NOW.
03:59:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TOO MUCH HOPSCOTCHING AROUND.
03:59:35PM AGENDA ITEM 52, FILE NUMBER REZ-21-134.
03:59:41PM FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE WATCHED VIDEO OF THIS AND SEEN A
03:59:45PM TRANSCRIPT AND I CAN VOTE IMPARTIALLY.
03:59:47PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:59:52PM ZAIN HUSSEIN.
03:59:53PM AGENDA ITEM 52, CASE NUMBERREZ-21-134.
03:59:59PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT 3915 W. EUCLID
04:00:05PM AVENUE, PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL
04:00:09PM SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
04:00:13PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
04:00:14PM DOCUMENTS PROVIDED.
04:00:19PM I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
04:00:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HUSSEIN.
04:00:24PM PETITIONER.
04:00:26PM >> NO QUESTIONS.
04:00:29PM I AM THE ATTORNEY FOR ACKERMAN.
04:00:32PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.
04:00:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO COMMENT?
04:00:36PM SEEING NONE.
04:00:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
04:00:37PM >> SECOND.
04:00:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:00:43PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:00:45PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:00:47PM GO WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:00:49PM WOULD YOU MIND.
04:00:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE ITEM NUMBER 52, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR
04:00:56PM SECOND READING FOR ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
04:00:59PM GENERAL VICINITY OF 3915 W. EUCLID AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
04:01:03PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
04:01:06PM FROM RS-60 TO PD.
04:01:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:01:12PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:01:13PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
04:01:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
04:01:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
04:01:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
04:01:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
04:01:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
04:01:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
04:01:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
04:01:23PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
04:01:30PM NUMBER 54, FILE NUMBER REZ-22-53.
04:01:35PM I REVIEWED THE FILE AND VOTE ON IT WITHOUT FRENCH DIS.
04:01:38PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN.
04:01:39PM CASE NUMBERREZ-22-53 BEING PRESENT TODAY ARE SECOND READING
04:01:45PM AND ADOPTION AT LOW SITUATION 3604 WEST AZEELE STREET
04:01:50PM PROPOSE READY HE ZONING FROM RS-60 REGISTER SINGLE-FAMILY
04:01:54PM TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL OFFICE.
04:01:56PM SENT IN TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
04:01:59PM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
04:02:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DIDN'T FOR MR. HUSSEIN.
04:02:05PM PETITIONER?
04:02:06PM >> GOOD AFTER, BRIAN DUNIVAN ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
04:02:11PM WE ARE READY FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
04:02:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTION FOR THE PETITIONER?
04:02:16PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS.
04:02:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
04:02:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
04:02:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
04:02:21PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:02:24PM EXCUSE ME COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:02:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR
04:02:29PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ORDINANCE REZONING IN THE
04:02:32PM GENERAL SI SIN TEE OF 3604 WEST AZEELE STREET?THE CITY OF
04:02:36PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE TECHNICALLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
04:02:39PM FROM ZONING MEDICAL PROVES VIED ON EFFECTIVE DATE.
04:02:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:02:48PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:02:50PM ALL IN FAVOR.
04:02:51PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
04:02:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
04:02:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
04:02:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
04:02:57PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
04:02:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
04:03:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
04:03:00PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
04:03:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM FILE NUMBERREZ-22-57.
04:03:12PM I HAVE REVIEWED THE DOCUMENTS AND CAN VOTE WITHOUT BRIDGE
04:03:15PM DIS.
04:03:16PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN,REZ-22-57.
04:03:21PM LOCATION 3607, 3708 AND 3809 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE PROPOSE
04:03:29PM FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE
04:03:35PM TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, ANIMAL SHELTER, VETERINARY
04:03:39PM OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET
04:03:43PM PARKING.
04:03:43PM MATERIALS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO THE OFFICE.
04:03:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: QUESTIONS FOR MR. --
04:03:52PM MR. MECHANIK, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
04:03:55PM [SWEARING IN]
04:04:01PM >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY STATEMENTS.
04:04:03PM >> COUNCILMEMBERS, I AM DAVID MECHANIK IN BEHALF OF THE
04:04:09PM HUMANE SOCIETY.
04:04:10PM I HAVE RANDY COHEN WITH ME.
04:04:12PM WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND TO ASK FOR YOUR
04:04:15PM APPROVAL.
04:04:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE THERE ANY ANY QUESTIONS.
04:04:19PM SEEING NONE, ANYONE IN CHAMBERS MIKE TO COMMENT.
04:04:23PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:04:24PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:04:26PM ALL IN FAVOR.
04:04:27PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:04:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER REZ-22-57.
04:04:33PM ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
04:04:36PM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY.
04:04:39PM 3607, 3708 AND 3809 NORTH ARMENIA, OVER, CITY OF TAMPA,
04:04:46PM FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM
04:04:49PM ZONING DISTRICTS CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
04:04:53PM AND CI, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
04:04:58PM ANIMAL SHELTER, VETERINARY, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE,
04:05:02PM COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
04:05:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND SECONDED
04:05:08PM BY MIRANDA.
04:05:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
04:05:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
04:05:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
04:05:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
04:05:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
04:05:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
04:05:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES CLERK MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
04:05:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 56, FILE NUMBER E 2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
04:05:32PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:05:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I REVIEWED BOTH 56
04:05:39PM AND 57 AND I AM PREPARED TO VOTE ON THESE.
04:05:42PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
04:05:43PM SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
04:05:44PM I WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE
04:05:47PM THAT ARE PRESENTED FOR YOU.
04:05:49PM THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL HAD CHANGED PARKING RATIO FOR STUDENT
04:05:54PM HOUSING BUT DUE TO OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE REZONING YOU
04:05:59PM CONSIDERED ON THE STUDENT HOUSE, WE WANTED TO TAKE A MORE
04:06:04PM GLOBAL APPROACH BEFORE INCORPORATING ANY PARKING RATIOS
04:06:07PM BEFORE THE CODE.
04:06:07PM THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE REMOVE PARKING RATIO FROM THE CDB
04:06:16PM AND THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
04:06:18PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
04:06:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS.
04:06:26PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: COUNCIL, ITEMS 56 AND 57 WILL BEFORE YOU AS
04:06:31PM PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT.
04:06:33PM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
04:06:36PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
04:06:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK.
04:06:40PM SEEING NONE, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS.
04:06:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
04:06:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
04:06:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:06:48PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:06:51PM OPPOSED.
04:06:52PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:06:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBERE 2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
04:06:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
04:07:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING ORDINANCE OF
04:07:06PM THE CITY OF TAMPA RELATING TO THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT
04:07:09PM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27 ZONING
04:07:14PM AND 27-132, REGULATIONS GOVERNOR EARNING INDIVIDUAL SPECIAL
04:07:19PM USES AND 8.15, A WATERFRONT OVERLAY, RIVER WALK DESIGN
04:07:27PM REGULATIONS, SECTION 27-182, PUBLIC REALM AND PUBLIC
04:07:32PM STANDARDS, AND AMENDING 27-183, AND 21-184, SCHEDULE OF
04:07:40PM PERMITTED PRINCIPAL, ACCESSORY AND SPECIAL USE REQUIRED
04:07:44PM OFF-STREET PARKING RATIO BY USE, AMENDING SECTION 27-184.1,
04:07:50PM MISCELLANEOUS USE STANDARDS, AND 27-185, GENERAL PARKING
04:07:54PM DESIGN STANDARDS, PARKING IN LIEW STANDARDS.
04:08:00PM AND AMENDING 27-185.1 OFF STREET SURFACE PARKING, 27-185.2,
04:08:10PM PARKING COMPLIANCE, ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE, AND THEREFORE
04:08:13PM PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
04:08:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECONDED BY
04:08:19PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:08:20PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
04:08:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
04:08:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
04:08:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
04:08:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
04:08:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
04:08:28PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
04:08:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE NUMBERE 2022-8 CHAPTER 27, NUMBER 57.
04:08:41PM MR. COTTON, HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN.
04:08:44PM >>ERIC COTTON: I DON'T NEED TO BE SWORN IN --
04:08:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THESE ARE NONQUASI.
04:08:50PM GO AHEAD, MR. COTTON.
04:08:52PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT BOARD NATION.
04:08:55PM AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 23.5 AND 27.
04:08:59PM SECOND READING TO START REGULATING FOOD TRUCKS.
04:09:02PM THIS WAS HEARD A FEW WEEKS AGO AT THE OCTOBER -- OCTOBER --
04:09:07PM WOW -- TWO WEEKS AGO FOR FIRST READING.
04:09:10PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE ARE ON ITEM 57.
04:09:16PM >>ERIC COTTON: I AM SORRY.
04:09:17PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE JUMPED THE GUN.
04:09:19PM >>ERIC COTTON: I WAS JUMPING AHEAD.
04:09:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I SAW YOU UP THERE.
04:09:26PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
04:09:28PM ITEM 57 WAS THE SECOND PART TO THE PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT
04:09:32PM AMENDMENT.
04:09:33PM THE APPLICANT IS KAREN CRESS ON BEHALF OF TAMPA DOWNTOWN
04:09:38PM PARTNERSHIP AND AVAILABLE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
04:09:43PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
04:09:46PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, THANK YOU.
04:09:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO SPEAK TO
04:09:51PM THIS.
04:09:51PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:09:53PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:09:56PM ALL IN FAVOR.
04:09:57PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:09:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER E 2022-8 CHAPTER 27, MOVE A
04:10:06PM SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE OF THE ORDINANCE IN CITY OF TAMPA,
04:10:10PM FLORIDA, MAKING HE VISIONS TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER
04:10:15PM 27 ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING CHAPTER 27-198,
04:10:19PM OFFICIAL SCHEDULE FOR PERMITTING PRINCIPLES, ACCESSORIES AND
04:10:25PM AMENDING 27-199, OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF DIMENSIONAL
04:10:29PM REGULATIONS IT HE LETTING SECTION 27-200, PARKING
04:10:32PM REQUIREMENTS.
04:10:33PM REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR
04:10:39PM SEVERABILITY.
04:10:39PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
04:10:41PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
04:10:47PM MANISCALCO.
04:10:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
04:10:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
04:10:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
04:10:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
04:10:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
04:10:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
04:10:55PM I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE TWO SECONDS.
04:10:58PM THIS AMENDMENT HAS BEEN HAPPENING, PLANNING, WORKED ON OVER
04:11:06PM THREE YEARS FOR VARIOUS PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
04:11:09PM I THINK IT WILL CHANGE OUR DOWNTOWN A LOT BUT I WOULD LIKE
04:11:15PM TO THANK KAREN KRESS FOR SPEARHEADING THIS.
04:11:21PM KAREN, YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB ON THIS.
04:11:24PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS.
04:11:26PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
04:11:30PM AGENDA ITEM 58, FILE NUMBERE-2022-8 CHAPTER 23.5 AND E
04:11:39PM 2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
04:11:42PM MR. COTTON.
04:11:45PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
04:11:49PM THIS IS AN AMOUNT TO CHAPTER 23.5 AND 27 REGARDING THE
04:11:53PM REGULATION OF FOOD TRUCKS.
04:11:54PM IF YOU ALL RECALL, THE STATE PREEMPTED US FROM REGULATING
04:11:59PM THEM REQUIRING AN ADDITIONAL PERMIT.
04:12:00PM TO GET A SPECIAL USE 1 VENDOR PERMIT AND WILL BE A PERMITTED
04:12:05PM USE IN DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS AND SETS
04:12:08PM FOR SPECIFIC STANDARDS IN 287282.
04:12:13PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
04:12:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COTTON.
04:12:18PM HEARING NONE, ANYONE WHO WOULD WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS IN
04:12:21PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS?
04:12:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
04:12:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
04:12:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
04:12:29PM ANY OPPOSED.
04:12:30PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:12:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR, MORE FILE NUMBER E 2022-8 CH 23.5,
04:12:42PM AND E 2022-8 CH 27, ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND
04:12:48PM ADOPTION, ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING
04:12:51PM TO FOOD TRUCKS REVISIONS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
04:12:55PM ORDINANCES CHAPTER 23.5, SUPPLEMENTAL ENFORCEMENT
04:12:59PM PROCEDURES, AMENDING SECTION 23-5-5, SCHEDULE OF VIOLATIONS
04:13:04PM AND PENALTIES AND CHAPTER 27, ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT,
04:13:08PM AMENDING SECTION 27-43 DEFINITIONS AMENDING SECTIONS 27-156,
04:13:14PM OFFICIAL QUESTION I'M OF DISTRICTS REGULATIONS AMENDING
04:13:17PM SECTION 27-171, DISTRICTS REGULATIONS FOR M-AP AIRPLANE
04:13:22PM COMPATIBILITY DISTRICTS AMENDING SECTION 27-184 OFFICIAL
04:13:26PM SCHEDULE OF PERMITTED PRINCIPAL ACCESSORY AND SPECIAL USES
04:13:31PM REQUIRED OFF-STREET PARKING RATIOS BY USE AMENDING SECTION
04:13:35PM 27-198 OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF PERMITTING PRINCIPAL ACCESSORY
04:13:41PM AND SPECIAL USES AMENDING 27-211.8, PERMITTED AND PROHIBITED
04:13:47PM USES AND SECTION 27-282.30 FOOD TRUCKS, REPEALING ALL
04:13:56PM ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCE OF CONFLICT THERE WITH.
04:13:59PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE.
04:14:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION.
04:14:05PM ROLL CALL.
04:14:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
04:14:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
04:14:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
04:14:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
04:14:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
04:14:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
04:14:13PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
04:14:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 59, E
04:14:26PM 2022-8, CH 27.
04:14:27PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, E 2022-8, CHAPTER 27.
04:14:33PM HOME A-BASED BUSINESSES.
04:14:36PM HOME OCCUPATIONS AS A SPECIAL USE.
04:14:39PM THEY ARE NOW BEEN HOME-BASED BUSINESSES WITH SPECIFIC TODAY
04:14:45PM OF CHAPTER 27 IN THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.
04:14:48PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
04:14:51PM I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER SOME FOR YOU.
04:14:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SEEING NONE.
04:14:54PM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA
04:14:57PM ITEM?
04:14:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
04:15:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
04:15:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
04:15:02PM LET'S GO WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:15:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND
04:15:11PM ADOPTION RELATING TO LEGISLATIVE CHANGES REGARDING
04:15:14PM HOME-BASED BUSINESSES MAKING REVISIONS TO CODE OF ORDINANCES
04:15:17PM CHAPTER 27, LAND DEVELOPMENT AMENDING 27-43, DEFINITION,
04:15:23PM AMENDING SECTION 27-132, REGULATIONS GOVERNING SPECIAL USES,
04:15:29PM 27-156, OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT REGULAR LEASINGS,
04:15:33PM AMENDING 27-177, HISTORIC DISTRICTS ESTABLISHED.
04:15:38PM AMENDING SECTION 27-184, OFFICIAL PERMITTED ACCESSORY AND
04:15:43PM SPECIAL USES REQUIRED.
04:15:44PM OFF-STREET PARKING RATIOS 27-198, OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF
04:15:50PM PERMITTED PRINCIPAL ACCESSORY AMENDING SECTION 27-211.8,
04:15:56PM SCHEDULE OF PERMITTED USES BY DISTRICT, AMENDING 27-212.4
04:16:04PM SCHEDULE ALLOWABLE PERMITSING PROHIBITED USES AND 27-282.5,
04:16:09PM HOME OCCUPATIONS AMENDING SECTION 27-283.7, NUMBER OF
04:16:15PM OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
04:16:18PM ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR
04:16:21PM SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
04:16:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY
04:16:27PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:16:28PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
04:16:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
04:16:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
04:16:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
04:16:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
04:16:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
04:16:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
04:16:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
04:16:37PM MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
04:16:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
04:16:43PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 61 FILE NUMBER SU 1-22-64-C.
04:16:52PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CAMARIA
04:16:56PM PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
04:16:57PM ITEM NUMBER 61, EXCUSE ME WITH A REVIEW HEARING ON A
04:17:01PM PETITION FOR REVIEW --
04:17:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I APOLOGIZE.
04:17:05PM I JUMPED THE GUN BEFORE AND I FAILED ON DOING IT NOW.
04:17:08PM IF THERE IS ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN SWORN
04:17:12PM IN, INCLUDING MR. COTTON WHO IS NOT WITH US, WOULD YOU
04:17:15PM PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN IN.
04:17:17PM [SWEARING IN]
04:17:25PM THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
04:17:26PM PLEASE PROCEED.
04:17:27PM I APOLOGIZE.
04:17:28PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: ITEM 61 IS A PETITION OF REVIEW
04:17:32PM FILED ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER ASSOCIATED WITH 200
04:17:36PM SOUTH HOOPER BOULEVARD.
04:17:38PM THEY ARE REQUESTING REVIEW OF A DECISION FROM THE ZONING
04:17:42PM ADMINISTRATOR DENYING THE SPECIAL USE APPLICATION FOR A
04:17:46PM DWELLING SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED.
04:17:48PM EARLIER, COUNCIL WAS PROVIDED A COPY OF HEARING PROCEDURES,
04:17:54PM THE RELEVANT CODE SECTION AND SAMPLE MOTION.
04:17:57PM MR. COTTON ALSO HAS THE ADDITIONAL CODE SECTIONS IN HIS
04:18:01PM STAFF REPORT.
04:18:01PM FOR PURPOSES OF TODAY'S HEARING, CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ABLE
04:18:04PM TO CONDUCT A DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW WHICH MEANS THAT
04:18:08PM CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE TO -- DOES NOT HAVE TO -- YOUR
04:18:12PM REVIEW IS NOT LIMITED TO THE INFORMATION FROM THE ZONING
04:18:17PM ADMINISTRATOR.
04:18:17PM AT THIS HEARING, YOU CAN TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY, ACCEPT NEW
04:18:21PM EVIDENCE AND MAKE A DECISION TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE
04:18:24PM ACTION MEETS THE CRITERIA AS OUTLINED IN CODE SECTION 27-132
04:18:29PM AND 27-129.
04:18:31PM MR. COTTON WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU AN OVERVIEW ON THE
04:18:36PM CITY'S DECISION AND WHY HE DENIED THE SPECIAL USE
04:18:39PM APPLICATION THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY LOCATE AT
04:18:42PM 200 SOUTH HOOVER BOULEVARD.
04:18:44PM AFTER CONSIDERING ALL THE EVIDENCE INTRODUCED INTO THE
04:18:48PM RECORD AT THIS AFTERNOON'S HEARING, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE
04:18:51PM THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS.
04:18:52PM CITY COUNCIL CAN UPHOLD THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION
04:18:58PM AND THEREFORE DENY THE SPECIAL USE APPLICATION OR CITY
04:19:01PM COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION AND
04:19:06PM THEREFORE APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE SPECIAL USE
04:19:10PM APPLICATION.
04:19:10PM WITH THAT I WILL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO MR. COTTON.
04:19:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE WE GO ON, DO WE -- DO WE NOT HAVE THE
04:19:18PM OPPORTUNITY TO SEND IT BACK?
04:19:22PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THIS IS AN APPEAL OF A ZONING
04:19:25PM ADMINISTRATOR DECISION.
04:19:25PM NOT A AND WILL USE BOARD.
04:19:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OTHER CASES WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEND
04:19:31PM IT BACK.
04:19:31PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CORRECT.
04:19:33PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON.
04:19:35PM MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN.
04:19:37PM I HAVE A QUICK POWERPOINT TO RUN THROUGH.
04:19:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU THERE, ERIC.
04:19:42PM >>ERIC COTTON: I NEEDED TO SHARE MY SCREEN REAL QUICK.
04:19:46PM I HAVE A QUICK POWERPOINT.
04:19:49PM IS IT VISIBILITY TO COUNCIL?
04:19:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOT YET.
04:19:53PM IT IS ALMOST THERE.
04:19:54PM THERE YOU GO.
04:19:55PM >>ERIC COTTON: THANK YOU.
04:19:56PM AS MISS PETTIS MACKLE WAS INDICATING THIS IS AN APPEAL,
04:20:01PM PETITION FOR APPROVAL FOR SPECIAL USE SU 1-22-46-C.
04:20:07PM THE PETITIONER IS CLAYTON BRICKLEMYER.
04:20:10PM THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RO-1 WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL OFFICE.
04:20:17PM THE APPLICANT WAS REQUESTING A SINGLE-FAMILY -- EXCUSE ME
04:20:20PM SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DEVELOPMENT.
04:20:22PM ROUGHLY 87 UNITS ON A TOTAL OF FIVE ACRES.
04:20:25PM YOU SEE ON THE AERIAL MAP, CLEVELAND TO THE NORTH.
04:20:31PM HOOVER TO THE WEST.
04:20:32PM AZEELE TO THE SOUTH.
04:20:34PM THIS IS -- CURRENTLY EXISTING OFFICE COMPLEX.
04:20:37PM THIS WAS THE SITE PLAN IMPOSED.
04:20:46PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNIT.
04:20:48PM DID HAVE A DESIGN TO FACE -- NOT HAVE TO FACE PUBLIC
04:20:53PM RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
04:20:54PM WE ARE COMING BACK WITH A TEXT AMENDMENT IN THE SEPTEMBER
04:20:58PM WORKSHOP HOPEFULLY TO CHANGE THAT REVISION IN THE CODE.
04:21:02PM AS WELL AS THE BASIS FOR THE DENIAL IS THE FACT THAT THE
04:21:07PM APPLICANT DOES NOT FACE AN A TER YELL -- A TER YELL ROADWAY.
04:21:15PM ALL LOCAL STREETS.
04:21:16PM THAT IS ANOTHER AMENDMENT THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE JUNE 23
04:21:21PM COUNCIL MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP ON GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
04:21:24PM THEY DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO AN ARTERIAL CONNECTOR ROAD.
04:21:29PM AND DENY THE REQUEST AND THE APPLICANT IS PETITIONING FOR A
04:21:33PM REVIEW.
04:21:33PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
04:21:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COTTON.
04:21:38PM PETITIONER.
04:21:39PM >>ERIC COTTON: THANK YOU.
04:21:42PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CLAYTON BRICKLEMYER, HILL, WARD
04:21:49PM HENDERSON.
04:21:51PM I THINK THE LAST WEEKER BETWEEN YOU AND THE BAR.
04:21:56PM ANGER RICK DID A GOOD JOB OF SUMMING THIS UP.
04:21:59PM WE DON'T MEET THE ONE CRITERIA.
04:22:01PM WE MEET THE OTHER CRITERIA FOR THE SPECIAL USE.
04:22:05PM THE ONE THING WE DON'T HAVE WE ARE NOT ON THE ARTERIAL OR
04:22:11PM COLLECTOR ROAD.
04:22:11PM I WILL PUT A COUPLE THINGS UP AND RUN THROUGH THE RATIONALE
04:22:15PM WE USE VERY QUICKLY.
04:22:16PM RIGHT NOW A SITE.
04:22:18PM THERE IS AN OFFICE PARK THERE NOW.
04:22:19PM THE SORT OF THEME WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING
04:22:26PM TO PROVIDE OUR PROJECT WILL BE 16 UNITS PER ACRE.
04:22:29PM YOU GOT AN OFFICE PARK THERE NOW.
04:22:32PM THIS IS ALL FUTURE LAND USE 100.
04:22:35PM AND I WILL SHOW YOU THAT IN A SECOND, BUT THIS AT 16 UNITS
04:22:39PM PER ACHOR IS A PROPER TRANSITION FROM THE MORE INTENSE AND
04:22:43PM TALLER PRODUCT TO THE NORTH.
04:22:45PM THERE IS ALSO SOME MULTIFAMILY HERE TO THE WEST THAT HAS
04:22:53PM SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE WEST OF IT.
04:22:54PM THE PATTERN IN THE AREA.
04:22:56PM THIS IS KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND THE MALL.
04:22:58PM THE STRETCH OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD AS YOU ARE GETTING TO
04:23:01PM CONTINUE TO THE BRIDGE.
04:23:02PM THE PATTERN IS TO TRANSITION.
04:23:04PM THE OFFICE PARK AT 16 UNITS TO AN ACRE THAT IS IN PLACE NOW.
04:23:14PM THE OTHER POINT THAT I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE IS -- SHOWS
04:23:19PM THIS ONE.
04:23:19PM THE BY NO MEANS AND EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
04:23:30PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:23:30PM BY NO MEANS WILL HOOVER BE DECLASSIFIED.
04:23:34PM BUT IN THIS SECTION, IT IS A COLLECTOR, A LOWERCASE
04:23:38PM COLLECTOR AND NOT ON THE MAP.
04:23:39PM WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS IT COLLECTS -- COLLECTS THE TRAFFIC --
04:23:43PM ACTUALLY THIS DOES A BETTER JOB.
04:23:45PM COLLECTS THE TRAFFIC FROM -- THIS IS THE SITE.
04:23:48PM FROM THE SOUTH FROM SAN PIPER.
04:23:51PM COLLECTS FROM AZEELE.
04:23:53PM COLLECTS FROM CLEVELAND.
04:23:54PM COLLECTS FROM MANNER AND DELIVERS IT ON THAT THAT SECTION OF
04:23:59PM KENNEDY THE FACT THAT IT IS NOT ON THE MAP, IT IS SERVING AS
04:24:09PM A COLLECTOR, AND IT IS WORTH MENTIONING THAT STRIKE THIS AS
04:24:15PM A REQUIREMENT IN YOUR WORKSHOPS.
04:24:20PM AND THE OTHER INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS SITE SPECIFICALLY
04:24:24PM IS THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE YOU CAN TELL WHICH ONCE I PUT
04:24:32PM TOGETHER AND WHICH ONE THE ARCHITECT DID.
04:24:34PM THAT IS THE SITE -- THE YELLOW IS THE FUTURE LAND USE
04:24:39PM OF R-6.
04:24:48PM AND YOU ARE FULLY AWARE, NORMAL TRANSITION DALE MABRY WOULD
04:24:52PM BE A STEP DOWN 25-10.
04:24:55PM THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 94 UNITS PER ACRE WHAT OUR FUTURE
04:24:58PM LAND USE AND WHAT OUR NEIGHBOR'S FUTURE LAND USE.
04:25:03PM IT IS UNIQUE IN THE CITY.
04:25:05PM ONLY POTS WITH A 90 UNIT PER ACRE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN
04:25:09PM ADJACENT LAND USES AND OUR STRETCH RIGHT WHERE WE ARE.
04:25:20PM REALLY GOES TO THE UNIQUENESS AND GOINGS THROUGH A VARIANCE
04:25:31PM REVIEW.
04:25:31PM AND THAT IS THE AND THAT MAKES IT SPECIAL.
04:25:38PM WE THINK WE MEET ALL THE GENERAL STANDARDS.
04:25:41PM AND AS I SAID THE MOST IMPORTANT THING AND I KNOW IT MATTERS
04:25:44PM TO YOU ALL A LOT BEACH PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
04:25:51PM THEY HAVE BEEN AT THIS VERY SITE PITCH FORBES IN HAND ON
04:25:54PM OTHER PROJECTS.
04:25:54PM WHAT YOU WILL FIND WE HAVE A FEW SUPPORTERS HERE TO TALK
04:25:57PM ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY APPRECIATED THE WORK WE HAVE DONE
04:26:00PM WITH THEM.
04:26:01PM THEY LIKE THIS PROJECT.
04:26:12PM ADAM WOL OF HERE IF YOU WANT A BETTER IDEA OF THE SITE PLAN.
04:26:16PM WE HAVE SUPPORTERS TO SPEAK.
04:26:18PM AND WE HAVE OUR TEAM HERE.
04:26:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER.
04:26:31PM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
04:26:48PM >> I AM PAULA PERRY AND A RESIDENT OF BEACH PARK AND HAVE
04:26:51PM BEEN A RESIDENT FOR ALL OF MY LIFE.
04:26:54PM AND ON THE BOARD FOR THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION.
04:26:59PM WE REPRESENT APPROXIMATELY 1200 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
04:27:02PM HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY.
04:27:04PM WE HAVE MET WITH WOLF BROTHERS.
04:27:16PM AND WE HAD MULTIPLE READINGS AND UNLIKE THE OTHER PROJECTS
04:27:19PM THAT WE HAVE GOING ON THAT WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT AND
04:27:22PM WE ARE CONCERNED OF DEVELOPMENT.
04:27:24PM AND WE ARE VERY PLEASED THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH US TO
04:27:27PM LISTEN TO US AND TO ACTUALLY INCLUDE THE FEEDBACK INTO THEIR
04:27:32PM DESIGN PLAN.
04:27:34PM VERY SPECIFICALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD -- I DON'T HAVE A MAP OUT
04:27:39PM IN FRONT OF ME, BUT O'BRIAN IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE
04:27:43PM PROPERTY.
04:27:44PM THEY ARE SINGLE STORY RANCH HOMES.
04:27:46PM A LOVELY STREET, BUT THEY HAVE REALLY WORKED WITH THEM IN
04:27:50PM PARTICULAR TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR PRIVACY IS NOT INTRUDED.
04:27:54PM THAT THEY DON'T LOSE ALL OF THE SUNLIGHT TO AFFECT THE
04:27:58PM DESIGN SO THAT IT HELPS THOSE RESIDENTS.
04:28:01PM HELPS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT IS NOT AS HIGH DENSITY AS
04:28:05PM SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS.
04:28:06PM TOWN HOMES, PEOPLE CAN LIVE THERE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
04:28:11PM BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE
04:28:15PM PROJECT AND THEIR WAIVER.
04:28:16PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
04:28:18PM OKAY.
04:28:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
04:28:20PM >> THANK YOU.
04:28:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
04:28:28PM WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS.
04:28:31PM PETITIONER, NEED ANY REBUTTAL?
04:28:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
04:28:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
04:28:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
04:28:38PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:28:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
04:28:45PM TO OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION,
04:28:53PM SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION
04:28:56PM AND A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.
04:28:58PM AND I KNOW THAT THE BEACH PARK NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY AWARE
04:29:01PM AND INVOLVED AND KNOWING THAT A REPRESENTATIVE WAS HERE IN
04:29:06PM SUPPORT.
04:29:07PM PUTS ME AT EASE AND SEEING THAT, I DON'T THINK WE RECEIVED
04:29:11PM ANY E-MAIL OS ARE ANYTHING AGAINST THIS.
04:29:13PM SO HAVING SAID THAT, I MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE ZONING
04:29:21PM ADMINISTRATOR'S DESIRE OF SPECIAL USE APPLICATION SU 1-22-64
04:29:26PM FOR THE PROPERTY AT 200 SOUTH HOOVER BOULEVARD BECAUSE THE
04:29:29PM PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PETITION IS CONSISTENT
04:29:33PM WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH IN SECTION
04:29:37PM 27-13 # AND SECTION 27-129.
04:29:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
04:29:47PM MANISCALCO.
04:29:47PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:29:50PM ALL IN FAVOR -- EXCUSE ME, ROLE CALL VOTE.
04:29:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
04:29:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
04:29:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
04:29:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
04:30:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
04:30:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
04:30:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
04:30:04PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
04:30:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
04:30:07PM ALL RIGHT, LADY AND GENTLEMEN, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
04:30:12PM INFORMATION REPORTS.
04:30:13PM GO TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:30:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
04:30:17PM I HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM, PLEASE.
04:30:19PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR COMMENDATION FOR DIRECTOR
04:30:27PM GREGORY SPEARMAN OF THE 2022 EXCELLENCE OF PROCUREMENT FOR
04:30:32PM THE 16th YEAR.
04:30:33PM THIS WAS PRESENTED ON BEHALF OF THE NATIONAL PROCUREMENT
04:30:37PM INSTITUTE A CPSM --CPM, CPP, AEP AND DON'T ASK ME WHAT IT
04:30:47PM STANDS FOR OFFICER AND ACHIEVEMENT OF EXCELLENCE IN THE
04:30:50PM PROCUREMENT EVALUATION COMMITTEE.
04:30:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:30:53PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:30:55PM ALL IN FAVOR.
04:30:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NEXT ONE IS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
04:31:01PM TO PRESENT COMMENDATION TO MISS MIRIAM BROAD RICK.
04:31:08PM BORN IN CHICAGO AND MOVEDED TO.
04:31:11PM IN 1981 AND RESIDES IN DISTRICT 7, COUNCILMAN VIERA'S
04:31:16PM DISTRICTS.
04:31:16PM AN AMBASSADOR OF TAMPA AND SERVED AS PART-TIME AS GREETER OF
04:31:22PM CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU FOR 35 YEARS, DOING MANY
04:31:26PM THINGS INCLUDING AS A PROCTOR FOR THE FLORIDA BAR EXAM, A
04:31:30PM GREET TO GUESTS TO TRAVEL HERE FOR THE SUPER BOWL,
04:31:33PM REGISTRATION CONVENTION ATTENDEE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER
04:31:37PM AND THE FIRST TO SIGN UP AS VOLUNTEER USHER AND TICKET TAKER
04:31:42PM AT THE TAMPA BAY PERFORM PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AS THE STRAZ
04:31:50PM CENTER AND RETIRED AT THE RIPE AGE OF 95.
04:31:53PM IN COMMENDATION WITH A HUGE PARTY AT THE ARLO WITH BIG
04:31:59PM BANDS, MUSIC AND HOLLYWOOD-STYLE ENTERTAINMENT.
04:32:01PM CONGRATULATIONS AND BEST WISHES TO MIRIAM.
04:32:06PM ALSO A LITTLE THING I GO THE TO SAY BECAUSE THE AIDE TOLD ME
04:32:10PM TO SAY IT.
04:32:10PM HER DAUGHTER IS EMILY FIST WITH TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL AND
04:32:16PM SAID SHE AND HER HUSBAND ARE FANS OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
04:32:19PM SO THERE YOU GO.
04:32:20PM YOU GOT A FAN.
04:32:22PM I WANTED TO GIVE IT TO YOU.
04:32:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:32:26PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:32:28PM ALL IN FAVOR.
04:32:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. MIRANDA, WILL YOU CONSIDER REPLACING
04:32:35PM WILLARD SCOTT ON THE "TODAY" SHOW.
04:32:37PM REMEMBER WHAT HE USED TO DO -- WHEN TEAM TURNED 100, HE
04:32:41PM WOULD ANNOUNCE THEM.
04:32:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SPONSORED BY SMUCKERS.
04:32:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM WILLING TO DO ANYTHING AT THIS TIME.
04:32:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITH A NAME LIKE SMUCKERS, IT HAS GOT TO BE
04:32:51PM GOOD.
04:32:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I REMEMBER THAT NOW.
04:32:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, A MOTION FOR TAMPA CITY
04:32:57PM COUNCIL TO GIVE COMMENDATION TO THE CITY'S HOUSING AND
04:33:00PM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM FOR RECEIVING AN AWARD FOR THE
04:33:03PM FLORIDA HOUSING COALITION OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
04:33:08PM CONFERENCE FOR PARTNERSHIPS TO BE GIVEN SEPTEMBER 6, 2022.
04:33:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
04:33:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SECONDED.
04:33:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:33:20PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:33:22PM ALL IN FAVOR.
04:33:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME SAY THAT WAS A GREAT CONFERENCE.
04:33:30PM COUNCILWOMAN DID A PRESENTATION TUESDAY AFTERNOON AROUND 3,
04:33:34PM 4:00 ON OUR TENANTS RIGHT OF BILL WITH COMMISSIONER OVERMAN.
04:33:38PM I WANT TO SAY THAT THE CONFERENCE REALLY -- EVERYONE AT THE
04:33:42PM CONFERENCE -- IT WAS SOLD OUT.
04:33:44PM HOUSING IS A BIG DEAL.
04:33:46PM AND WORDS I USE NOW OBTAINABLE HOUSING.
04:33:52PM AND EVERYONE IS CATCHING ON TO IS THAT WORD "ATTAINABLE."
04:33:57PM BECAUSE "AFFORDABLE" IS NOT WORKING.
04:34:00PM AND SOMEHOW LEGISLATORS NEED TO CHANGE THAT WORD AND LOOK AT
04:34:06PM ATTAINABLE.
04:34:07PM ATTAINABLE PEOPLE MORE LIKELY TO HEAR VERSUS AFFORDABLE.
04:34:11PM GREAT CONFERENCE AND HOPE YOU JOIN NEXT YEAR.
04:34:15PM ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
04:34:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:34:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE ED
04:34:22PM SHERWOOD OF TAMPA BAY ESTUARY NOVEMBER 3, 2022 AND GIVE
04:34:27PM COUNCIL A TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THE STATE OF THE BAY.
04:34:31PM Y'ALL REALLY NEED TO HEAR ABOUT THIS.
04:34:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW ARE THE SEAGRASS.
04:34:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT GOOD.
04:34:36PM THAT IS WHY HE WANTS TO COME AND NEEDS TO SPEAK.
04:34:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL SECOND THAT.
04:34:41PM IF I MAY, I WISH MR. BEAU WILLIAMS WILL COME IN HERE ALSO.
04:34:46PM IN MY OPINION WE NEED A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM OF OUR
04:34:50PM SEAGRASSES IN AND AROUND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
04:34:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
04:34:59PM SECOND BY CHAIRMEN CITRO.
04:35:01PM ALL IN FAVOR.
04:35:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:35:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, SIR, I HAVE NOTHING TODAY.
04:35:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:35:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY FAST, SEPTEMBER 6, I WAS GOING TO DO A
04:35:13PM COMMENDATION TO DEBRA HARRIS FROM CRISIS CENTER ARE YOU BUT
04:35:17PM SHE CAN'T MAKE IT THAT WAY AND MOVE TO MOVE THAT OFF IF I
04:35:20PM MAY AND RESET IT AT ANOTHER TIME.
04:35:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:35:25PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:35:27PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
04:35:28PM ANY OPPOSED.
04:35:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY QUICK.
04:35:31PM I THINK IT WAS MONDAY NIGHT, I DID A COMMUNITY FORUM ON
04:35:34PM MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES DEALING WITH COVID-19, ETC.
04:35:37PM UP THOUGHT THAT NIGHT ABOUT THE CITY POTENTIALLY HAVING WHAT
04:35:41PM I WOULD CALL -- AND I DON'T KNOW IF ONE EXISTS.
04:35:43PM IF ONE EXISTS I DON'T KNOW -- AND THE FUTURE -- I MAY BE
04:35:47PM EMBARRASSED AND WITHDRAW THIS.
04:35:49PM BUT A CITY OF TAMPA MENTAL HEALTH TASK FORCE TO LOOK AT ALL
04:35:53PM OF OUR CITY OF TAMPA POLICIES USING GROUPS LIKE -- LIKE
04:35:57PM CRISIS CENTER, ETC., ETC.
04:35:59PM TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF OUR POLICIES FROM FIRST RESPONDERS,
04:36:03PM PUBLIC SAFETY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, OUR HEALTH INSURANCE, ALL
04:36:07PM DIFFERENT THINGS TO TAKE LOOK AT HOW IT DEALS WITH MENTAL
04:36:14PM HEALTH AND HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THAT.
04:36:16PM SEE THE ADMINISTRATION'S POSITION ON THAT.
04:36:18PM IF WE CAN HAVE THAT BACK NOVEMBER 3.
04:36:21PM AGAIN, IF THERE IS MORE TIME NEEDED, THAT IS AWESOME.
04:36:24PM BUT THAT'S IT.
04:36:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:36:28PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:36:29PM ALL IN FAVOR.
04:36:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY IF I MAY.
04:36:33PM I KNOW RIGHT NOW WE ARE HAVING THE EAST TAMPA -- THE -- THE
04:36:37PM RECREATION CENTER OUT THERE.
04:36:39PM AND I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONTROVERSY WITH -- WITH THE --
04:36:44PM WITH THE PRIOR PROJECT ON HANNA WITH REGARD TO THE
04:36:46PM APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE.
04:36:49PM MAYBE WE COULD HAVE AN UPDATE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION IN
04:36:52PM TERMS OF HOW THAT IS GOING WITH REGARDS TO COMPLIANCE WITH
04:36:59PM THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE AND HAVE THAT COME BACK IN THE
04:37:02PM FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER.
04:37:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK I DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT LAST
04:37:07PM WEEK, A WHOLE LIST OF THAT PROJECT.
04:37:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HERE.
04:37:12PM IS THAT INCLUDED IN YOUR MOTION?
04:37:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I BELIEVE IT.
04:37:18PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THOUGHT YOUR MOTION WAS WITH HANNA.
04:37:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT IF YOU AND WITH TO AMEND YOUR MOTION
04:37:26PM --
04:37:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S OKAY.
04:37:27PM WHEN YOU SAID THE APPRENTICE AND WORKFORCE.
04:37:31PM IF YOU WANT TO TALK OF HOW THE EAST TAMPA PROJECT WILL DEAL,
04:37:36PM THAT IS FINE.
04:37:37PM I HAVE BEEN ASKING ABOUT THAT ALREADY BECAUSE I BELIEVE 75%
04:37:40PM OF THE WORK IS GOING TO BE DONE.
04:37:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: COOL.
04:37:43PM SO THEN THAT APPARENTLY HAS NOT BEEN MADE BEFORE, I WILL
04:37:48PM MAKE THE MOTION IF I MAY FOR OCTOBER 6.
04:37:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:37:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:37:55PM ALL IN FAVOR.
04:37:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS NOT A MOTION, BUT CLARIFICATION
04:38:01PM SEPTEMBER # 2, WE HAD THE ISSUE OF THE -- SEPTEMBER 22, WE
04:38:04PM HAD BE ISSUE OF THE CHARTER COMING UP AND LOOKING AT THE
04:38:08PM MOTION AND OTHER WORKSHOPS ON THAT DAY, MAYBE INCLUDED ON
04:38:11PM ONE OF MINE.
04:38:12PM WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER MOVING THOSE IN THE EVENT THAT TAKES
04:38:17PM A LONG TIME.
04:38:18PM THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION THAT MAY -- HE WILL BE
04:38:21PM THERE THE NIGHT BEFORE.
04:38:21PM I WILL SEEING KISS WITH MY SON PALM BEACH TO BE AT CITY
04:38:27PM COUNCIL LIVE.
04:38:28PM SO JUST PUTTING OUT THERE.
04:38:29PM THANK YOU.
04:38:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
04:38:32PM [LAUGHTER]
04:38:39PM NOW WHICH KISS MEMBER ARE YOU PUTTING THE MAKE-UP ON.
04:38:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, NO.
04:38:45PM WE ARE JUST GOING.
04:38:45PM WE ARE JUST CHILLING.
04:38:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN --
04:38:52PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: AS LONG AS THERE WAS A MOTION.
04:38:54PM MAYBE NEXT BEAK WE CAN LOOK AT THE WORKSHOP CALENDAR AND SEE
04:38:58PM IF WE CAN MOVE ANYTHING.
04:38:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:39:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
04:39:06PM FILE MY AB FROM LAST WEEK, FILE NUMBER PRC 27-27621.
04:39:14PM I ABSTAINED FROM THE VOTE BECAUSE THE FIRM WHICH I AM
04:39:17PM RETAINED WORKS FOR THE HILLSBOROUGH SCHOOL DISTRICT.
04:39:20PM MY FIRM DOES NOT WORK ON THIS ITEM BUT I ABSTAIN AS AN
04:39:25PM ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION NOT TO APPEAR ANY CONFLICT.
04:39:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAD A VOTE AND I SECONDED IT.
04:39:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED BY
04:39:39PM MR. MIRANDA.
04:39:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I KNOW WE LOOK ALIKE.
04:39:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE.
04:39:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE MORE THING.
04:39:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY, HE IS NOT FINISHED.
04:39:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO MORE, IF I COULD.
04:39:51PM MY EXPERIENCE WORK WITH OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES IS THAT IF
04:39:54PM YOU HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE GOVERNMENT AGENCY OR IF YOU ARE
04:39:58PM RECEIVING MONEY FROM A GOVERNMENT AGENCY, YOU ARE NOT
04:39:59PM ALLOWED TO LOBBY ON BEHALF OF THIRD PARTIES WITH THAT
04:40:04PM GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.
04:40:05PM AS I CHECKED WITH OUR CITY, NO PROHIBITION ON THAT.
04:40:08PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE REQUEST THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
04:40:12PM REPORT ON NOVEMBER 3 AS TO THE POSSIBILITY OF SETTING UP YOU
04:40:18PM A PROHIBITION ON ORGANIZATIONS THAT RECEIVE SENDING MONEY
04:40:21PM FROM LOBBYING THE CITY ON BEHALF OF THIRD PARTIES.
04:40:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
04:40:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY SPEAK ON IT.
04:40:30PM AND I WILL BE GLAD TO VOTE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
04:40:32PM I THINK ABOUT THE NUMEROUS LAW FIRM WE HAVE ON RETAINER.
04:40:37PM HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT -- CAN THEY APPEAR BEFORE CITY
04:40:41PM COUNCIL, ETC., ETC., I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WILL MOVE THAT
04:40:43PM FORWARD.
04:40:44PM THAT IS FINE.
04:40:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:40:47PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:40:48PM ALL IN FAVOR.
04:40:49PM ANY OPPOSED.
04:40:51PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:40:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: LAST ONE, WE TALKED THIS MORNING ABOUT --
04:40:55PM ABOUT SETTLEMENTS.
04:40:57PM AND APPARENTLY A DOCUMENT FROM FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO FROM A
04:41:02PM FORMER CITY ATTORNEY THAT TALKS WHAT THE ROLES ARE OF CITY
04:41:06PM COUNCIL VERSUS THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON HANDLING
04:41:09PM PAYMENTS AND PAYMENTS OF SETTLEMENTS.
04:41:12PM WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT ANY SPECIFIC CASE, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK
04:41:15PM THE CITY ATTORNEY TO REPORT ON NOVEMBER 3 AS TO WHAT THE NEW
04:41:19PM CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION IS ON WHAT THE ROLE IS OF CITY
04:41:23PM COUNCIL VERSUS THE CITY ATTORNEY IN REGARD TO APPROVING
04:41:28PM SETTLEMENT AND SETTLEMENT PAYMENTS.
04:41:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:41:34PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:41:35PM ALL IN FAVOR.
04:41:36PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, BACK TO YOU.
04:41:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO BRING A LITTLE QUICK THING
04:41:41PM UP.
04:41:41PM SOME TIME BACK, FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO, I WAS TALKING TO
04:41:45PM SOMEONE HIGH IN THE ADMINISTRATION -- NOT THE MAYOR AND SAID
04:41:48PM WE WILL LOOK AT STOP SIGNS THAT SAY "STOP" IS SOLAR PANEL ON
04:41:54PM TOP AND JUST THINKING -- I WENT YESTERDAY AT PUBLIX AND
04:41:58PM LOOKED UP OPINION WASN'T THE CITY BUT PUBLIX PUT ONE ON THE
04:42:02PM STAR AT HILLSBOROUGH AND HABANA AND PARKING AND THAT SIGN
04:42:07PM WILL TELL YOU TO STOP AND IT BLINKS AT YOU AND YOU CAN SEE
04:42:11PM IT FROM HALF A BLOCK AWAY.
04:42:12PM AND MAYBE I AM GOING TO GO BACK TO ADMINISTRATION TO SEE IF
04:42:16PM WE CAN DO SOME OF THESE THINGS TO STOP SOME OF THE TRAFFIC
04:42:19PM HAPPENING IN THE CITY.
04:42:19PM MAYBE SAVE OR LIFE OR TWO.
04:42:22PM I DON'T KNOW.
04:42:22PM IT DOES WORK.
04:42:23PM IT CAUGHT MY EYE IMMEDIATELY.
04:42:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:42:27PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:42:30PM ALL IN FAVOR.
04:42:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:42:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
04:42:34PM WHO SECONDED.
04:42:36PM [LAUGHTER]
04:42:38PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:42:40PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:42:42PM ALL IN FAVOR.
04:42:43PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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