TAMPA CRA
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 8, 2022, 9:00 A.M.

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09:02:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE CITY OF TAMPA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER.
I BELIEVE THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES HAVE OUR INVOCATION THIS
MORNING.
09:02:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, MA'AM, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.
MY PLEASURE TO WELCOME APOSTLE JAMES H. HOWELL.
OF THE CATHEDRAL OF CHURCH INC.
HE IS A WELL-KNOWN MINISTER OF THE GOSPEL THAT BRINGS 54
YEARS OF PREACHING AND PASTORAL EXPERIENCE.
APOSTLE HOWELL IS MARRIED TO MARITZA, WHO IS THE ASSISTANT
PASTOR, AND THE FATHER OF FOUR SONS AND SIX GRANDCHILDREN.
APOSTLE HAS OVERSIGHT OVER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CENTER,
THE SERVICE ARM OF THE MINISTRY THAT SERVES THE COMMUNITY
FOR OVER 25 YEARS WITH A FOOD PANTRY READING TUTORIAL
PROGRAMS AS WELL AS PARTER INNED WITH THE TAMPA HOUSING
YOUTH PROGRAMS.
I TELL YOU HE IS A WELL-KNOWN SERVANT IN MY COMMUNITY WHERE
MY MOTHER LIVES AND.
A VOTING SITE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS IN HIS CHURCH.
THIS MORNING I WELCOME APOSTLE JAMES HOWELL.
09:03:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF EVERYONE WITH RISE.
09:03:35AM >> LET US PRAY.
ETERNAL GOD, OUR FATHER, WE COME THIS MORNING.
GREAT IS THY FAITHFULNESS MORNING BY MORNING, NEW MERCIES
RECEIVED.
ALL OF OUR HANDS NEED, THOU HAVE PROVIDED.
WE COME NOW TO THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, ONE THAT WE HAVE
NEVER SEEN BEFORE AND WE PRAY NOW THY BLESSINGS UPON THIS
MEET THIS MORNING.
WE PRAY THAT YOUR PEACE, YOUR LOVE AND YOUR HARMONY WILL
ABIDE.
WE THANK YOU FOR EACH COUNCILMEMBERS AND WE PRAY THAT YOU
WILL BLESS THEIR HOMES AND THEIR FAMILIES.
THANK YOU FOR OUR COMING IN, AND BLESS OUR GOING OUT.
BLESS THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
BLESS OUR LEADERS, THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN PLACED IN OFFICE
THROUGH VOTE OR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN PLACED THROUGH THEIR
REFORMATION.
WE THANK YOU NOW IN JESUS'S NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.
AMEN.
AMEN.
AND AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:04:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:04:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
09:04:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.
09:04:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
09:04:57AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
09:04:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
09:04:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.
09:05:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
09:05:01AM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:05:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MR. MASSEY, IF WE CAN REVIEW THE RULES OF PUBLIC COMMENT AND
PARTICIPATION IN THE CRA MEET THIS MORNING.
09:05:12AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
YES, MA'AM.
THE SEPTEMBER 8, 2022 CITY OF TAMPA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY OR THE CRA HELD IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS THIRD FLOOR
OF OLD CITY HALL.
PUBLIC IS ABLE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING EITHER IN PERSON OR TO
TO VIEW IT BY CABLE TELEVISION, SPECTRUM TABLE 640, FRONTIER
CHANNEL 15 OR BY THE INTERNET VIA WWW.TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER HERE IN CITY COUNCIL
CHAMBERS OR VIRTUALLY THROUGH COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY
OR CMT.
THE USE OF CMT REQUIRES PREREGISTRATION WITH THE CITY
CLERK'S OFFICE.
NOTICE OF PREREGISTRATION IS IN THE MEETING AGENDA.
CAN I WAIVE USING COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY.
09:06:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO AND
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
MISS TRAVIS, ANY CHANGES TO OUR AGENDA THIS MORNING.
09:06:28AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
GOOD MORNING, NICOLE TRAVIS, DIRECTOR OF
DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
INTERIM CRA DIRECTOR AND YES, THERE ARE SOME CHANGES.
WE RECEIVED REQUESTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS TO CONTINUE ITEM 7,
8 AND 11.
THIS REQUEST CAME BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THESE ITEMS BEFORE THEY ARE BROUGHT BACK
TO THIS BOARD FOR ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION OR ACTION.
AND IF THE BOARD CONCURS FOR THAT REQUEST, WE ARE REQUESTING
THAT TO BE PLACED ON THE NOVEMBER 10 CRA AGENDA, PLEASE.
09:07:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
I DO NEED A ROLL CALL?
NO?
09:07:18AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I THINK YOU CAN DO IT BY A VOICE VOTE.
09:07:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANKS.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED.
09:07:27AM >>BILL CARLSON:
7, 9 AND 10.
09:07:29AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
7, 8 AND 11.
09:07:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU A THREE HAVE BEEN MOVED TO NOVEMBER 10.
09:07:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, ITEM NUMBER 1, BUT I AM
GOING TO ASK FOR A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AS IT RELATES
TO ITEM NUMBER 1 WHEN WE GET TO THAT.
09:07:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
SO THEN WE APPROVED THE AGENDA.
NOW WE ARE MOVING TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME TO COMMENT ON ANY ITEM FOR UP TO THREE
MINUTES.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, IF YOU CAN STAND UP AND FORM A
LINE TO YOUR RIGHT, MY LEFT.
09:08:13AM >> PUBLIC COMMENT?
09:08:15AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
YES, SIR.
09:08:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
09:08:24AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS.
LOCATED 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET, PARADISE MISSIONARY BAPTIST
CHURCH.
AND I THANK GOD FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY.
THANK GOD FOR ANOTHER DAY OF BLESSING.
I AM BASICALLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT MANY THINGS, BUT I KNOW
Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT ONE THING.
BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
I AM BEING A PREACHER.
I BELIEVE IN PREACHING THE TRUTH.
AND THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST.
WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT.
THAT IS MY CALLING.
AND I AM SO GRATEFUL TO BE HERE AGAIN TODAY.
I WAS THINKING TODAY WAS THE FIRST THURSDAY.
I WAS THINKING OF ALL THESE POLICEMEN AND MAYOR WILL BE HERE
TODAY SO WE CAN TELL THEM SOMETHING.
THEY DON'T WANT TO INVITE US IN WHEN THEY ARE HERE.
THEY PUT A LOCK ON THE DOOR.
AND THE POLICE TALKING ABOUT YOU CAN'T COME IN.
BUT I GOT A LOT TO TELL HER, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.
IS BEING GAY OR GENDER OR NATIONALITY.
CAN ONE OF YOU TELL ME?
BECAUSE SHE SAY SHE IS GAY, AND I WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
THAT IS.
I KNOW YOU WON'T GIVE ME AN INTERPRETATION WHAT THAT IS
BECAUSE IT IS NOT RIGHT IN THE SIGHT OF GOD.
BUT ONE THING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT FRANK WILLIAMS, I DON'T
THINK I AM GAY.
AND I GOT TO PREACH THE TRUTH.
WHETHER THEY WANT TO BE GAY OR NOT, THAT IS THEIR PROBLEM.
I THANK GOD I AM STRAIGHT.
AND THAT IS THE WAY IT IS.
I KNOW Y'ALL HATE TO SEE ME COME UP HERE.
I SEE A LOT OF HEADS GOING DOWN, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
WHEN I WAS OVER HERE THE LAST TIME, SOME GUY CALLED ME ON
THE PHONE AND TOLD ME, HE SAID YOU BLACK BASTARD, YOU NEED
TO GO BACK HOME.
GO BACK TO WHERE YOU COME FROM.
HE DIDN'T GIVE ME A CHANCE TO RESPOND.
HE HUNG UP.
IF I AM THAT TO HIM, THEN HE MUST BE WORSER TO ME.
AND THAT IS THE WAY I LOOK AT IT.
BUT WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND.
WE ARE PEOPLE CREATED BY GOD.
NOT ONLY ARE WE CREATED BY GOD, BUT WE ARE CREATED IN HIS
IMAGE AND HIS LIKENESS.
WHY PEOPLE HATE US SO BAD, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
YOU ALL MESS -- SEE THEM IN THE CHURCH.
THEY CUT MY WATER OFF AT THE CHURCH.
THEY TOOK MY PARKING LOT FROM ME AT THE CHURCH.
THEY DID ME SO MUCH DIRT.
ONE TIME THEY SET THE CHURCH ON FIRE.
THAT IS HOW NASTY PEOPLE ARE.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T RESPOND THE WAY THEY WANT YOU TO RESPOND,
THEY LET YOU KNOW.
AND I THANK GOD THAT THEY DO LET ME KNOW.
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT NOBODY SNEAKING UP ON ME STABBING ME IN
MY BACK OR CHEST.
I GET A LOT OF NASTY LETTERS.
AND THEY ARE BASICALLY COMING FROM PEOPLE.
09:11:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.
09:11:30AM >> YOU REALLY THANK ME?
I DON'T THINK YOU DO.
BUT I THANK GOD THAT I'M HERE.
THANK GOD FOR Y'ALL BLESSING.
Y'ALL BE BLESSED.
AND BE BLESSED.
BLESSED OF GOD.
ALL OF Y'ALL.
DON'T BE ASHAMED TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK THE TRUTH.
THE TRUTH IS THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD.
09:11:47AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
YOU HAVE -- WHEN YOU BECOME AN ADULT, ANY TIME YOU SEE OR
HEAR AN INJUSTICE YOU PUT IT IN CHECK RIGHT AWAY.
MR. WILLIAMS, YOU CAN'T KEEP HATING -- LET PEOPLE HAVE THE
RIGHT TO BE WHAT THEY WANT TO BE AND FREE FROM THOSE KINDS
OF COMMENTS.
THAT IS SO WRONG AND SO -- IT IS HATEFUL.
WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT GOD AND THEN TALK ABOUT WHATEVER.
LET A PERSON BE WHAT THEY WANT TO BE.
IF THEY ARE NOT OFFENDING YOU PHYSICALLY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
SLEEP WITH THEM.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE WITH THEM.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO SOCIALIZE WITH THEM IF YOU DON'T LIKE
IT.
I HOPE THIS ISN'T USING MY TIME.
I WAS PERSONALLY OFFENDED BY THAT.
MR. WILLIAMS, YOU REALLY GOT TO GET THAT TOGETHER.
A PERSONAL HANG-UP YOU HAVE.
EVERYBODY HAS FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND BELIEF AND BELIEVE WHAT
YOU WANT TO BELIEVE BUT THAT IS WRONG.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY WRONG.
ALL RIGHT.
WHAT I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON IS THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU HEAR
INJUSTICE, WHEN YOU SEE IT, YOU GO THE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT
IT.
I HEARD IT TUESDAY WHEN THIS MAN CALLED FOR MORE POLICE AND
CODE ENFORCEMENT.
THAT IS RACIST.
NOW THAT IS RACIST.
THAT IS RACIST.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY RACIST.
WHEN WHITE PEOPLE THINK THEY CAN MAKE BLACK JOKES IN OUR
FACES AND BELIEVE WE ARE LESS THAN A HUMAN BEING, WE ARE NOT
SUPPOSED TO CATCH ON THAT WE WERE JUST OFFENDED.
WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO CATCH ON THAT WE WERE OFFENDED WHEN
WHITE PEOPLE -- THE WHITE PEOPLE THAT CALL THEMSELVES ON THE
OTHER SIDE, THEY SAY, HEY, LIKE, WHY DIDN'T BIDEN HAVE MORE
TAX IRS PEOPLE, BECAUSE HE IS PUTTING THEM UNDER MIDDLE
CLASS.
WHY IS THIS WHITE MAN CALLING FOR MORE POLICE AND CODE
ENFORCEMENT.
BECAUSE HE IS CALLING FOR BAD THINGS TO HAPPEN TO AFRICAN
PEOPLE.
HE IS CALLING FOR BAD PEOPLE TO HAPPEN TO AFRICAN PEOPLE IN
OUR FACE.
IN OUR FACE.
AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO ACCEPT THAT AND ALL THROUGH OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD AND MEETINGS.
HATEFUL.
SPITEFUL.
DISRESPECTFUL AND DEMEANING AND IT WAS IN OUR FACE AND NOW I
AM BACK IN YOUR FACE.
YEAH, WE NEED MORE POLICE OFFICERS.
WE NEED A POLICE OFFICER TO GOVERN AND WATCH EVERY POLICE
OFFICER, ESPECIALLY FOR WHAT THEY TO DO AFRICAN PEOPLE.
THEY TREAT US LIKE DIRT.
THE OTHER REPRESENTATIVE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON NOW
AT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND WHAT THEY ARE USING COMPANY TIME
FOR.
THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT.
A CROOKED CITY.
CODE ENFORCEMENT IS CROOKED.
CROOKED.
ALL THROUGHOUT THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
CROOKED.
WE DON'T GOT NO SERVICES AND THEY ARE PUTTING FINES AND
CODES AND ALL THAT AND TAKING OUR FAMILIES' HOMES, TAKING
OUR GRAND PARENTS' HOMES, TAKING PARENTS' HOMES, TAKING
UNSUSPECTED BLACK PEOPLE'S HOMES, ALL THIS STUPIDNESS GOING
ON.
I KNOW IT AND FEEL IT.
HITTING ME WITH MILLION OF DOLLARS OF PROPERTY FINES,
PERSONAL FINES.
FOR WHAT REASON?
NO REASON.
THEY ARE HATEFUL AND NASTY.
MAN CALLING FOR MORE POLICE OFFICERS.
BLACK PEOPLE WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT INSULT.
WE SEE BLACK PEOPLE TRYING TO STAND UP IN HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY AND THE GOVERNOR TRYING TO PUT DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON
THEM.
WE DON'T WANT YOU TO TALK ABOUT BEING WOKE.
THE SAME THING THEY TALK ABOUT IN TALLAHASSEE.
CAN'T SAY GAY.
THAT WAS HATESFUL.
THAT WAS HATEFUL WHAT YOU DID TUESDAY.
09:15:03AM >> HI, EVERYBODY, MY NAME IS CHAD FROM THE PATEL FAMILY
OFFICE TO TALK ABOUT HOUSING.
I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN QUITE AN INFLUX OF RESIDENTS AND
DEVELOPERS IN THE TAMPA COMMUNITY, AND IT IS KIND OF BEEN
REALLY GREAT BOON FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FAIRLY HURTFUL FOR
THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE AS FAR AS AFFORDABILITY GOES.
DR. KAREN PATEL, AS A LOT OF YOU KNOW AND DON'T KNOW IS VERY
DEDICATED OF INCREASING ACCESSIBLE HOUSING IN THE TAMPA
AREA.
WHETHER IT IS WORK WITH WELLS FARGO OR JPMORGAN OR THIS BANK
OR THAT BANK TO GIVE LYTE K-9 OR MTE CREDITS AND WE ARE
DOING A VERY, VERY GOOD JOB.
WE ADDRESSED A LOT OF THE FAULTS FOR SUSTAINABILITY,
TRANSPORTATION, ALL THESE TRANSFORMING TAMPA'S TOMORROW FOR
-- WHAT YOUR GUYS' GOALS ARE FOR HOUSING AND IT WOULD BE
HELPFUL IF WE CAN COLLABORATE WITH THE CRA FOR MAYBE
FOCUSING ON ACCESSIBLE HOUSING LIKE THE CENTRAL PARK CRA AND
THE DAYTIME CRA.
MY ASK FOR TODAY IF MAYBE WE CAN DIRECT SOME CONVERSATIONS
IN THAT DIRECTION, BECAUSE I THINK WE ADDRESSED A LOT OF THE
PROBLEMS.
WE HAVE COME IN WITH SOME ALGORITHMS THAT THE COMMUNITY HERE
THAT BUILT THE IS IT I WHICH I THINK WITHOUT PREJUDICE ONE
OF THE BEST CITIES IN THE COUNTRY CAN AFFORD TO LIVE HERE AS
WELL.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
THANK YOU, GUYS.
09:16:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
09:16:40AM >> NATASHA GOODLEY.
2075 EAST 24th AVENUE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT TO
OUR ATTENTION THAT COMING FROM THE CRA BOARD THAT IT WAS
SAID THAT THE EAST TAMPA CRA WAS UNITED TO COME AND
COMPLAIN, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE TABLE OF US GETTING WORK
DONE THAT IT IS NOT HAPPENING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THE COMMENT.
BECAUSE WE ARE UNITED.
WE ARE WORKING TO GET THINGS DONE.
AND WE DO HAVE QUORUM.
I THINK MAYBE TWICE WE DIDN'T AND UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE
TRYING TO WORK ON THAT.
SOMETHING WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON.
WE DO HAVE QUORUM.
WE ARE HAVING MEETINGS.
WE DO MOVE FORWARD.
AND WE ARE CREATING PROGRAMS.
MANY OF THE PROGRAMS ARE TRYING TO BE DUPLICATED IN
DIFFERENT CRAS ACROSS THE CITY.
IF ANYTHING TELLS ME WE ARE A LEADER AMONGST THE CRA AND
THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE DOING.
I HEARD YOU SAY LOOKING FOR 30% OF THE CRA BUDGET GOING TO
HOUSING.
WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT.
WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR YEARS.
I JUST WANTED TO DISPEL THAT RUMOR THAT EAST TAMPA CRA IS
NOT GETTING ANYTHING DONE AND WE DON'T MEET AND DON'T HOLD
QUORUM, BECAUSE WE DO.
THANK YOU.
09:18:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIS MORNING?
OKAY.
I THINK WE HAVE ONE PERSON ONLINE.
NO ONE IS REGISTERED?
OKAY.
SO MISS TRAVIS, ARE YOU READY TO START.
09:18:21AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
GOOD MORNING, AGAIN.
FOR ITEM NUMBER 1, I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE
CRA DIRECTOR POSITION.
YOU ASKED US TO START THE SEARCH FOR THE DIRECTOR POSITION.
THE POSITION HAS BEEN POSTED FOR 60 DAYS.
WE HAVE POST IT WITH A LOT OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATIONS, THE
FLORIDA REDEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION, AND WE HAVE FOUR
QUALIFIED CANDIDATES TO PRESENT TO YOU.
SO I NEED SOME DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD THIS MORNING.
OF THE FOUR APPLICANTS THAT MEET THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS,
WE ARE HOPING TO SCHEDULE INITIAL INTERVIEWS FROM MID TO
LATE SEPTEMBER.
I WOULD LIKE TO NARROW THE SEARCH TO THREE QUALIFIED
CANDIDATES.
I REALLY WANT TO PRESENT YOU WITH TWO IN CASE ONE TAKES A
JOB SOMEWHERE SELLS.
YOU SHOULD HAVE CHOICES AND OPTIONS.
I WANT TO REMIND YOU THIS IS YOUR PROCESS.
I AM JUST TRYING TO GUIDE IT -- TO DO IT BASED ON THE
GUIDANCE YOU HAVE PROVIDED.
AT THE LAST CRA BOARD MEETING, THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE THAT
THE CRA BOARD SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS.
SO IF THAT IS YOUR DESIRE, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF WAYS WE CAN
DO THAT.
I CAN NARROW IT DOWN TO THREE QUALIFIED APPLICANTS FOR YOU,
AND THEN SCHEDULE SEVEN MEETINGS WITH EACH OF THE QUALIFIED
CANDIDATES.
AND IT WILL BE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS.
IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT OUTSIDE OF THE SUNSHINE.
IF YOU WANTED TO DO ONE MEETING, WE WOULD HAVE TO PUBLICLY
NOTICE THAT MEETING AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THE CANDIDATES AND
TAKE TURNS DOING THAT INTERVIEW.
I AM LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE FOR YOU.
I AM SHOOTING FOR FINAL INTERVIEWS AND THE PUBLIC MEET AND
GREET WE TOLD THIS BOARD -- IT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION
THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF CACS THAT ARE VERY ENGAGED AND YOUR
CRA DIRECTOR SHOULD BE ENGAGED WITH ALL OF THE DISTRICTS AND
THE CACS ARE A BIG PART OF OUR CRAs.
RECOMMENDING FOR A PUBLIC MEET AND GREET.
SHOOTING OCTOBER 3 -- THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 3-6, BUT HIGHLY
DEPENDS ON AVAILABILITY AND CALENDARING IT.
I JUST NEED SOME GUIDANCE FROM YOU ALL OF HOW YOU WOULD LIKE
TO PROCEED.
09:20:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBERS GUDES, YOU HAD A -- YOU WANTED
--
09:20:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK -- WELL, I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT
SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT I CAN SPEAK ON THIS LATTER PART.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW THE
CANDIDATES.
THE PUBLIC HAS A WAY OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THE CACS SO THEY CAN
SEE WHO -- WHO ARE THE CANDIDATES AND SEE IF THAT CANDIDATE
FITS IN OUR CITY AND FIT IN WITH THE CACS.
I LIKE TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE HAVE DONE OTHER PLACE IT IS I AM
GOING TO CHOOSE A CANDIDATE.
CAN YOU KEEP MY TRAIN GOING RIGHT NOW.
THAT IS THE PERSON I AM LOOKING FOR DURING THIS PROCESS.
09:21:25AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
OKAY.
MOMENTUM IS -- IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
THE -- LET ME JUST MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT OF THIS.
I THINK GENERALLY FROM A CRA -- CRA IS TO BE OUT OF THE
BUSINESS OF THE CRA.
THERE SHOULD NO LONGER BE SLUM AND BLIGHT THAT A CRA IS
NEEDED AND WE SHOULD BE WORKING HARD AND DILIGENTLY TO
ERADICATE THE SLUM AND BLIGHT IN THE DISTRICT.
MOMENTUM IS IMPORTANT.
LEADERSHIP IS IMPORTANT.
AND I AM TAKE THIS PROCESS VERY SERIOUSLY.
WE --ALIS AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO MOVE US IN
THE DIRECTION THAT THIS BOARD WANTS US TO.
AND WHATEVER THIS GUIDANCE, IT IS YOUR PROCESS.
AS SOON AS AS WE -- IF YOU ARE OKAY -- ONCE WE GO THROUGH
THE PROCESS AND I GET YOUR CONCURRENCE.
IF WE NARROW IT DOWN TO THREE CANDIDATES FOR YOU, I WILL
TURN THEIR RESUMES OVER TO YOU SO YOU HAVE TIME TO REVIEW IT
AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO BE OF SERVICE
TO YOU THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
09:22:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU HAVE BEEN THE INTERIM FOR HOW MANY
MONTHS NOW?
09:22:26AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I HAVEN'T BEEN COUNTING.
SINCE JANUARY, I DON'T KNOW, I WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND
LOOK.
09:22:31AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THIS IS WHERE I AM GOING TO GET TO, MADAM
CHAIRWOMAN.
MR. DRUMGO AND MISS TRAVIS HAVE BEEN DOING THIS JOB FOR
SEVERAL, SEVERAL MONTHS NOW.
AND HAVE TAKEN ON SEVERAL RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE CITY.
RUNNING THE CITY AND DEALING WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER
BUREAU.
PEOPLE HAVE TO BE PAID FOR THEIR WORK.
AND WE HAVE A BUDGET FOR CRA DIRECTOR.
AND THEY NEED TO BE PAID FOR THE MONTHS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN
WORKING.
I WANT TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR ARE FOR HR AND THE
FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO GET THEM PAID FOR THE MONTHS THEY ARE
WORKING.
THAT IS NO MORE THAN RIGHT.
I THINK MR. CARLSON HAS ALREADY SECONDED THAT SO WE CAN GET
THAT ON THE FLOOR.
I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE HANDLED ASAP.
09:23:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WANTING TO MAKE THE MOTION RIGHT NOW.
09:23:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION.
09:23:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING UNTIL NOVEMBER 10.
WE DON'T HAVE A CRA MEETING NEXT MONTH.
09:23:26AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
A SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT
SET ASIDE FOR A CRA DIRECTOR AND SIT DOWN WITH FINANCE.
09:23:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I SAID HR TO COME BACK TO SEE WHAT THEY
NEED TO BE PAID.
THEY NEED TO BE PAID.
09:23:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM BOARD MEMBER GUDES
AND A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
ANY DISCUSSION?
09:23:45AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA AND CONSIDERING
THAT NICOLE IS WORKING AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR JOBS, IT IS
ONLY FAIR.
AND A GREAT WAY TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:23:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR.
OKAY.
09:23:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SAY --
09:24:04AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SHE AND MR. DRUMGO HAVE BEEN DOING WORK.
09:24:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
09:24:11AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MISS TRAVIS.
09:24:13AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
SORRY -- I MISSED IT.
09:24:18AM >>BILL CARLSON:
FIRST OF ALL, THE LINE THAT YOU SAID TO PUT
THE CRA OUT OF BUSINESS OR WHATEVER IT IS YOU SAID, YOU SAID
IT SEVERAL TIMES.
YOU SAID IT TO ME PRIVATELY.
I APPLAUD THAT.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO STRATEGIC PLANNING THREE AND A HALF
YEARS AGO.
IF WE DID, I WOULD LOVE FOR THAT TO BE OUR MISSION
STATEMENT.
IN THE PAST CRA WAS KNOWN AS SLUSH FUNDS FOR PET PROJECTS.
AND NOT FAIR FOR THE REST OF THE CITY TO HAVE THE REST OF
THE CITY SUBSIDIZED CRAS WHERE THERE IS NO SLUM AND BLIGHT.
WHERE THERE IS SLUM AND BLIGHT, WE SHOULD.
BUT WE NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY WISELY.
THINGS LIKE ROOF PROGRAMS VERSUS FACADE GRANTS.
WE NEED TO NOT JUST SPEND MONEY BECAUSE WE HAVE IT, BUT
BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT KIND OF PROJECTS.
I HOPE WE WILL GO THROUGH A PLANS PROCESS.
IT CHANGES THE WHOLE MIND SET.
THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO I WAS HAVING DISCUSSION WITH
STAFF.
AND ALMOST EVERYBODY ARGUED WITH ME OF THE REST OF THE CITY
SUBSIDIZING.
THE WAY THEY THOUGHT ABOUT IT, IT IS THEIR MONEY.
AND IT IS NOT.
IT IS THE REST OF THE CITY'S MONEY AND WE ARE CUSTODIANS OF
IT.
SINCE THE REST OF THE CITY HAVE NOT GETTING THEIR POTHOLES
FILLED AND THEIR BENCHES REPLACED AND NOT GETTING THEIR
PARKS DONE TO SUBSIDIZE THESE, WE HAVE AN EVEN GREATER
STANDARD WE NEED TO MEET TO DO THIS.
FOR THE NEW DIRECTOR, IF THEY HAVE A HIGH BAR OF HOW TO HIT
BECAUSE WHAT YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES HAVE DONE.
I THINK WE NEED TO OBVIOUSLY MAKE SURE WE GET THE VERY BEST
PERSON.
IF YOU SHORT LISTED FOUR -- IF YOU SHORT LISTED FOUR, I HAVE
CONFIDENCE THAT THEY ARE GOOD.
BUT WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST AS A PROCESS.
YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE A SECRET BALLOT, BUT YOU CAN GET
INPUT FROM EACH OF US JUST PROS AND CONS OF EACH OF THE
CANDIDATES.
I SUGGEST THAT YOU GIVE US THE FOUR RESUMES AND HAVE A SHORT
PHONE CONVERSATION WITH EACH OF US JUST TO GET THE PROS AND
CONS.
NOT TO SAY HOW WE WOULD VOTE BUT THE PROS AND CONS OF EACH
AND THEN LOOK AT SHORT LISTING THREE AND SET UP THE
MEETINGS.
09:26:23AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
OKAY.
SO -- I CAN TOTALLY DO THAT.
I WILL SCHEDULE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH YOU TO GET YOUR
FEEDBACK.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL BE LOOKING FORWARD IN THE FEEDBACK,
WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU WANT FROM THIS CANDIDATE.
I PROBABLY WILL BE INTERVIEWING YOU TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE
THE RIGHT FIT WITH THE CANDIDATES THAT YOU HAVE WHAT ARE YOU
LOOKING FOR.
WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU AND I WILL DEVELOP A LIST OF
QUESTIONS FOR YOU TO USE IN YOUR INTERVIEW, WHATEVER THAT
INTERVIEW PROCESS IS.
09:26:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU MIGHT DO SINCE YOU ALREADY
-- ALREADY PUT OUT ADS.
I THINK WHAT YOU ARE MENTIONING WE SHOULD HAVE DONE A FEW
MONTHS AGO AND WE DIDN'T.
WHAT -- USUALLY I AM IN A PLACE TO MAKE SURE YOU GET OUR
INPUT AND YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB AND OBVIOUSLY WELL
EXPERIENCED IN THIS.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU GIVE US EITHER THE AD OR THE
CRITERIA THAT YOU THINK AND GET OUR FEEDBACK ON IT.
IN CASE WE WANT TO TWEAK THINGS.
IF SOME THINGS IN PARTICULAR WE WANTS TO LOOK AT.
CAN'T JUST SAY CLONE NICOLE.
THE OTHER IDEA OF GOING TO THE CAC IS GOOD PUN.
IN THE POLICE CHIEF SEARCH, ONE CANDIDATE WAS NOT ABLE TO
ATTEND BECAUSE OF A DEATH IN THE FAMILY.
WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE OF EVERYONE'S SCHEDULE EURAL AND
DECIDE HOW TO DO THAT.
ASIDE FROM HAVING A OPEN HOUSE, SOME OF THE CAC CHAIRS WOULD
WANT TO TALK TO THEM.
09:27:53AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I AM TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC MEET AND
GREET IS A PRESCRIBED AGENDA OR WITH A PODIUM AND A FORUM.
I THINK A MEET AND GREET AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE
CANDIDATES TO TALK TO THE CAC MEMBERS AND THE CHAIRS.
AND THE CAC WILL PROVIDE YOU FEEDBACK BASED ON THAT
INTERACTION.
IT IS UP FOR -- THIS IS A VERY PUBLIC POSITION, RIGHT.
SO IT WOULD BE UP FOR THEM TO DO A MEET AND GREET.
I DON'T HAVE A PRESCRIBED AGENDA FOR THAT MEET AND GREET.
09:28:26AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
09:28:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
09:28:30AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID SOME OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO
SAY.
OPEN AND OBVIOUS.
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ALL THE INTERVIEWS COLLECTIVELY IN PUBLIC.
FOR MANY REASONS I WOULD STRONGLY DISCOURAGE THAT.
I THINK WHEN WE WERE HIRING OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT HART,
WE GET TO KNOW THE INDIVIDUAL PRIVATELY, PHONE ALWAYS,
MEETINGS, ETC.
AND A PUBLIC VOTE WHERE MEMBERS CAN SHARE THEIR RATIONALE
WHILE THEY ARE MAKING A SPECIFIC DECISION IF THEY SO WISH
AND I THINK THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PART IS REALLY WONDERFUL,
BUT I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE MEETINGS AS
OPPOSED TO COLLECTIVELY BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL
POTENTIALLY SEND THE WRONG INTENTION ON MANY ACCOUNTS AND
QUESTIONS TO ASK PRIVATELY AND MANY REASONS I WOULD SAY
THAT.
I AGREE WITH THOSE STATEMENTS.
THANK YOU.
09:29:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
09:29:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
I AM NOT DISAGREE WITH MY TWO OTHER COLLEAGUES BUT IN SOME
OF THE BOARDS I SIT ON IS ALL DONE PUBLICLY.
THEY MAY TALK TO YOU ON THE PHONE AND GET TO KNOW YOU, BUT
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CAC MEETING A THE 11:00 AND 30
MINUTES EACH AND HAVE A CONVERSATION SO THE PUBLIC IS
INVOLVED IN TRANSPARENCY AND SEE WHAT IS GOING ON AND HOW
THEY ARE CHOSEN.
I THINK THAT IS A WONDERFUL THING.
THAT WAY IT GIVES THE FOUR INDIVIDUALS -- OR THREE, WHATEVER
IT MAY BE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET AND GREET, NOT ONLY ON
THE PHONE BUT TO MEET IN PERSON SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE
CONVERSATION IS ONE WAY, BUT THE ACT OF JUST SEEING A PERSON
IS A DIFFERENT WAY MOUTH MAY TELL YOU ONE MESSAGE, BUT THE
BODY WILL SAY ANOTHER.
AND YOU HAVE A MEETING WITH THREE OR FOUR CANDIDATES.
IN MY MINDS THE BEST WAY FROM 9:00 IF IT IS 3 TO 11:30.
TO 10:30 AND 11:00 IF WE HAVE FOUR AND START THE CRA MEETING
AFTER THAT AND COME BACK AFTER LUNCH.
BUT I THINK THE INTENSITY AND THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY ARE
GOING TO HAVE FOR THEM AND FOR THE CRAs AND THE GENERAL
PUBLIC WILL BE FOR THEM TO COME UP.
SOMETIMES WE DO THIS WHEN WE APPOINT PEOPLE TO ALL THE
BOARDS THAT HAVE NOWHERE NEAR THE STRESS THAT THIS BOARD
HAS, BECAUSE OF THE WORK -- THE WORK LOAD THAT THEY HAVE.
SO I REALLY BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE PUBLICLY.
09:30:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
09:30:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MISS TRAVIS, THESE CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN VESTED THROUGH THE
CITY OF TAMPA.
IT WOULD BE A SHAME THAT WE PICK SOMEBODY WHO WAS EXCELLENT
AND FOR SOME REASON NOT OF OUR OWN THAT THE CITY MIGHT NO
BE ABLE TO HIRE THEM.
THEY HAVE ALL BEEN VESTED?
09:31:10AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A
BACKGROUND CHECK AND DRUG TEST CLEARANCE FOR HIRING.
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES YET.
THEY HAVE MET -- WE DID A JOB DESCRIPTION AND TO COUNCILMAN
CARLSON 'POINT OF THE MINUTE MURM QUALIFICATIONS.
I IS IT TAKE THE JOB DESCRIPTION TO THE CRA BOARD CHAIR AND
GAVE HER COMPARABLES OF OTHER DIRECTOR POSITIONS AND WHAT WE
PUT IN THE QUALIFICATIONS.
THE FOUR CANDIDATES MEET THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATION OF THE
JOB DESCRIPTION.
THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE ONCE YOU HAVE MADE A SELECTION MADE A
TENTATIVE OFFER.
CONTINGENT ON PACK GROUND AND DRUG TEST.
THEN AFTER THAT, THEY ARE CLEARED TO HIRE.
09:31:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THE REASON WHY I AM ASKING, WE NEED THAT
PERFECT PUZZLE PIECE TO GO IN THE WRONG PLACE.
IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO PICK THE PERFECT PERSON AND FOR SOME
REASON.
THANK YOU, MISS TRAVIS.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
09:32:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE ELSE, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
09:32:15AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST ONE MORE THING.
I OBVIOUSLY BELIEVE IN TRANSPARENCY AND DOING THINGS IN
FRONT OF THE PUBLIC.
I THINK CANDIDATES ALSO LIKE HAVING PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS.
I AM OKAY IF WE HAD PHONE CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND
IN-PERSON CONVERSATIONS AND A GROUP CONVERSATION AS BOARD
MEMBER MIRANDA SUGGESTED.
BUT ONE KINDS OF OTHER STEP.
YOU KNOW I WAS A VOLUNTEER ADVISOR TO STEVE BURTON WHEN HE
WAS CHAIR OF THE AVIATION AUTHORITY.
AND WE GOT RID OF THE OLD DIRECTOR AND BROUGHT IN
JOE LAPANO.
AND THERE WAS GREAT SCRUTINY THERE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
WHEN WE IS IT THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T THEY -- PEOPLE WERE NOT
SURE THAT JOE WILL DO THE GOOD JOB.
THE LAST MAYOR FOUGHT IT.
BUT THE PUBLIC WANTED TO KNOW WHO THESE WERE.
AT LEAST WITH STEVE, WE SCHEDULED INTERVIEWS AT TIMES WHEN
THE PUBLIC KNEW WHERE THEY WERE.
ANOTHER INTERIM STEP, IF WE MEET THEM IN PERSON, MEET THEM
HEIFER AND SCHEDULE PUBLICLY.
THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE PUBLICLY NOTICE BECAUSE
WOULDN'T BE BREAKING SUNSHINE, BUT POST THEM PUBLICLY IF THE
PUBLIC OR MEDIA WANT TO COME IN FOR THE INTERVIEWS, THEY CAN
COME IN.
09:33:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I TEND TO AGREE WITH BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
I THINK ANYTHING IN THE SUNSHINE.
BUT I ALSO SEE THE POINT OF HAVING SHORT CONVERSATIONS PRIOR
TO THAT.
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT HAVING AN EVENT FOR CAC MEMBERS IS
ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL.
I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE VOTING ON ANYONE UNLESS
THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO SPEND
SO AS MUCH TIME, EFFORT AND ENERGY ON WHAT THEY DO.
I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO SEE HOW THIS PERSON OR HOW
THE CANDIDATES REACT IN A PUBLIC SPACE.
BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BE UP IN FRONT OF US ALL THE TIME.
AND THE FACT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE ABLE TO HOLD
THEIR OWN.
WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES.
SO I THINK SEEING THAT FOR ME PERSONALLY IS SOMETHING THAT
IS VERY CRITICAL.
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:34:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WELL, THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PORTION.
YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAD A GOOD SYSTEM TO WHERE THE
CANDIDATES MET WITH THE BOARD IN A PUBLIC SETTING AND THEY
HAD A SOCIAL HOUR WHERE THE PUBLIC WAS ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH
THE CANDIDATES.
LIKE FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM.
NOT ONLY THE CITY, BUT THE PUBLIC WAS ABLE TO TALK AND MEET
THE CANDIDATE AS WELL.
A GOOD WAY TO HAVE THE PUBLIC EN GANGMENT.
NOT ONLY THE CAC, BUT THE PUBLIC CAN ENGAGE WITH THE
CANDIDATES.
09:34:59AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
ABSOLUTELY.
WHATEVER THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD IS, I AM HAPPY TO OBLIGE
THAT.
09:35:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOULD --
09:35:07AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
LET ME JUST ADD A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT LIKE
THAT.
09:35:11AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WOULD HAVE TO BE NOTICED?
09:35:14AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
WILL HAVE TO BE NOTICED.
THE FINAL SELECTION WHOEVER WILL BE THE CRA DIRECT WILL HAVE
TO BE MADE AT A PUBLICLY NOTICED MEETING.
WE WOULD CALL A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING FOR THAT PURPOSE,
ESPECIALLY IF YOU WANT TO BRING THE FINALIST IN TO MAKE A
FINAL PRESENTATION BEFORE YOU ALL MAKE THAT FINAL DECISION.
MAYBE THAT IS THE PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL
ENGAGEMENT AND HAVE A SOCIAL ENGAGEMENT WITH THE CACS IN THE
PUBLIC AND A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING WHERE THE SOLE PURPOSE
OF THAT MEETING TO SELECT THE CRA DIRECTOR AND MAKE
PRESENTATIONS TO YOU ALL AND THEN MAKE A DECISION AT THAT
POINT IN TIME.
JUST THE SUGGESTION.
09:35:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I LOVE THAT SUGGESTION.
BUT BOARD MEMBERS?
ANY --
09:36:01AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SHOULD WE SCHEDULE IT NOW.
09:36:03AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
YOU WANT TO DEVELOP THE SCHEDULE BASED ON
THE INDIVIDUALS SHE IS MEETING WITH AND YOUR CALENDARS.
09:36:11AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
IF YOU JUST CAN AGREE ON THE PROCESS THAT
YOU WANT TO DO, I WILL GO BACK AND WORK -- AND PRESENT YOU A
SCHEDULE.
YOU CAN'T PICK A DATE WITHOUT US SPEAKING TO -- NOT YOU,
RESPECTFULLY, YOUR AIDES WHO MANAGE YOUR CALENDARS AND THE
CANDIDATES.
09:36:31AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
BY YOUR BYLAWS, THE CHAIR HAS THE ABILITY
TO CALL A SPECIALLY CALLED MEETING WITHOUT YOU -- WE WILL
BOARD NEAT WITH YOUR CALENDARS.
09:36:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SAY ONE MORE QUICK THING.
09:36:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ABSOLUTELY.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
09:36:48AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MISS TRAVIS, WE CAN TALK OF CRITERIA AND
FEEDBACK -- I WANT TO SAY IN FRONT OF MY COLLEAGUES BECAUSE
WE -- THERE ARE SOME UNIQUE QUALITIES THAT YOU HAVE.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO DESCRIBE THEM.
YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE OBVIOUSLY, BUT
SOMETHING ABOUT YOU -- WORDS I WILL THROW OUT MAY OR MAY NOT
BE THE RIGHT WORD.
INDEPENDENT THINKING, APOLITICAL, CONFIDENT.
I THINK ALL OF THOSE ARE NECESSARY FOR SOMEBODY TO NAVIGATE
ALL THIS.
I AM ONE OF THE BIGGEST SKEPTICS UP HERE, AND I HAVE
CONFIDENCE THAT NO INDIVIDUAL HERE CAN SWAY YOU.
I CAN'T SWAY YOU AND NEITHER CAN ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL.
SO YOU TAKE THE CONSENSUS OF IT.
AND NO ONE OUTSIDE SWAYS YOU, THE MAYOR, YOU TO WHAT YOU TO
DO GET THE JOB DONE AND VERY GOOD AT IT.
WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS.
WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS FOCUSED ON THE COMMUNITY AND
GETTING RESULTS.
NOT INVOLVED IN LITTLE POCKETS OF POLITICS AND STRONG ENOUGH
AND CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO PUSH THROUGH TO TELL US WHAT YOU
REALLY BELIEVE.
I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME ON SOMETHING,
YOU WILL TELL ME.
09:38:05AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YES, THANK YOU.
09:38:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO WE HAVE A PLAN?
DOES ANYONE WANT TO ARTICULATE THAT PLAN SO WE CAN VOTE ON
IT.
DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT?
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:38:16AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH LAID IT OUT FOR MISS
TRAVIS.
09:38:19AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YOU KIND OF SAID DIFFERENT THINGS.
THERE WAS NO CONSENSUS.
OKAY, LET'S START WITH -- LET'S START WITH THE INTERVIEWS.
I THINK WHAT I HEARD -- LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THINK I
HEARD.
YOU WANT ME TO SCHEDULE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH THE TIMIST
SO AS YOU CAN SPEAK TO THEM NOT IN THE PUBLIC SETTING.
THEN YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO SCHEDULE -- THEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO
HAVE A PUBLICLY NOTICED MEETING IN CHAMBERS WITH THE
FINALISTS.
YOU WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE A PUBLIC MEET AND GREET.
I WILL DO A SMALL 45 MINUTES WITH JUST THE CRA BOARD FIRST
AND THEN THE TIME AFTER THAT WILL BE FOR ALL THE CAC
MEMBERS.
THEN WE WILL -- THEN -- I AM NOT GOING TO ASK YOU TO MAKE A
DECISION ON THE CANDIDATE AT THE PUBLIC MEETING.
THEN WE WILL FIGURE OUT THE DATE ON WHEN YOU WILL MAKE THE
DECISION ON YOUR CRA DIRECTOR.
IS THAT IS IT?
09:39:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
PERFECT.
09:39:19AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE PROCESS WHICH IS
THE FIRST STEP TO SOCIALIZE THE FOUR RESUMES.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROCESS YOU
JUST DESCRIBED WITH THAT ADDITION.
09:39:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON HAS A MOTION.
09:39:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SPEAKING ON THE MOTION.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THEY WILL APPEAR BEFORE THE
BOARD FOR A PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE THE VOTE IS TAKEN.
09:39:44AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YES.
09:39:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR THAT.
09:39:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
09:39:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
09:39:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
09:39:54AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
09:39:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
09:39:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
09:39:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
09:39:58AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES.
09:40:01AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
GLAD I ATE BREAKFAST THIS MORNING.
THANK YOU.
09:40:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ARE YOU SATELLITESFIED.
09:40:08AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I AM FINE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I EXECUTES THE PROCESS THAT THIS BOARD
WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD.
ONCE I LAY OUT THAT PLAN FOR YOU, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT
AND TAKE ANY DIRECTION WE HAVE FOR THAT.
SO I AM GOOD MOVING FORWARD.
09:40:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS SET.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:40:24AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
MR. DRUMGO WILL INTRODUCE -- A COUPLE OF
ITEMS TO TAKE TOGETHER, 2, 3 AND 4.
AND HE WILL SPEAK TO THAT AND INTRODUCE EVERYONE.
09:40:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS WONDERFUL.
09:40:37AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING, BOARD.
ALIS DRUMGO, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR ECONOMIC AND
COMMUNITY.
AS ADMINISTRATOR TRAVIS, WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR 2, 3 AND 4
COLLECTIVELY.
WE HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM THE JACKSON HOUSE HERE.
DR. COLLINS WILL SPOKE TO THE MOTION MADE TO ACQUIRE THE
JACKSON HOUSE FOR SUFFICIENT SPACE TO ALLOW FOR THE
RENOVATION, AND WE ALSO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP PRESENTATION THAT
WILL COME BEFORE YOU RELATIVE TO THE RENOVATION OF THE
JACKSON HOUSE, THE COST TO DO SO, AND THEN THE OVERALL
VISION FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE.
09:41:20AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I TO A QUICK SET OF THESE BECAUSE I MADE
THE MOTION.
09:41:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ABSOLUTELY.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
09:41:27AM >>BILL CARLSON:
A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND STORIES ABOUT THE
JACKSON HOUSE AND A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE TRYING TO SAVE IT.
I FIRST GOT INVOLVED NOVEMBER 2013, I MET WITH WILLIE
ROBINSON AT THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF THE "TIMES" REPORTER AND
JUST GOTTEN A LETTER FROM THE LAST ADMINISTRATION SAYING
THEY WOULD TEAR IT DOWN IF I REMEMBER IT CORRECTLY, THE
SATURDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING.
I WAS PRETTY SHOCKED BY THAT.
AND ALIS, IN THIS CONVERSATION, HE DIDN'T SHOW ANGER OR
ANYTHING.
BUT JUST TRYING TO SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE.
I MADE TWO PHONE CALLS.
ONE WAS TO A GROUP THAT RAISED THE MONEY AND TRIED TO SAVE
IT.
THEY SHORED IT UP.
THEY PUT TARPS AND THE LAST ADMINISTRATION WALKED IN AT THE
END AND SAID WE WILL ESSENTIAL TEAR IT DOWN ANYWAY.
THAT DEAL FELL APART.
THE OTHER CALL I MADE TO LINDA SAUL-SENA.
LINDA, FORMER CITY COUNCILMEMBER -- CAME INTO THIS BODY --
CITY COUNCIL, NOT THIS BODY AND MR. MIRANDA MAY BE THE ONLY
COUNCILMEMBER HERE -- I DON'T KNOW IF GUIDO WAS HERE OR NOT
-- BUT CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO STAY THE DEMOLITION OF THE
JACKSON HOUSE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAFE, CITY COUNCIL --
NOT ALL OF US INDIVIDUALLY, BUT CITY COUNCIL SAVED THE
JACKSON HOUSE AT THE REQUEST OF MR. ROBINSON AND OTHERS BACK
IN 2013.
IF NOT FOR THAT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TORN DOWN JUST AFTER
THANKSGIVING WHEN NOBODY WAS PAYING ATTENTION.
BUT SINCE THEN, IT HAS SAT.
AND MANY OF US CARE ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE.
I CARE ABOUT IT SO MUCH THAT I HAVE A PAINTING OF IT ON MY
WALL IN MY HOUSE BY DEAN MITCHELL.
AND IT IS -- IT IS A BUILDING THAT I THINK IS -- ORIGINALLY
OWNED BY WILLIE'S FAMILY.
I THINK HIS FAMILY -- HIS DAUGHTER MAY BE HERE TODAY, BUT
IT'S -- IT IS REALLY A COMMUNITY TREASURE THAT TELLS NOT
ONLY THE STORY OF THE PEOPLE WHO STAY THERE BUT ALSO THE
STORY OF SEGREGATION AND THE LOCATION OF IT IS VERY
IMPORTANT.
I WOULD ABSOLUTELY NEVER BE IN FAVOR OF MOVING IT BECAUSE IT
IS SO IMPORTANT TO TELL THE STORY WHERE IT IS.
I WOULD LIKE -- I SAID TO MANY PEOPLE, I WOULD LIKE TO
PERSONALLY BUY PIANO TO -- GO LOBBY WHEN RENOVATED.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT THREE AND A HALF YEARS ON CITY COUNCIL
AND THE PRIOR CITY SAVED IT FROM THE LAST ADMINISTRATION AND
THING IN CRA, WE TRIED TO SAVE IT.
A YEAR OR SO AGO A MAYOR HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE WITH
JEFF VINICK AND THE CHRISTINE WAS THERE TO PUT ON $1
MILLION.
THAT WAS THE CITY MONEY, NOT THE CRA MONEY.
THE CRA IS COMMITTED AND PUT OUR MONEY WHERE THE MOUTH IS.
WE OFFERED HALF THE MONEY TO TRY TO RENOVATE IT.
WE RUN INTO MANY OBSTACLES WITH THAT.
THE OTHER THING I WILL SAY, THE CRA -- ANYBODY THAT WATCHES
THE BUDGET -- THERE IS NOT EVEN $100,000 IN THE CITY'S
BUDGET BUT THE CRA DISTRICTS HAVE MONEY.
AND I THINK THERE IS THE -- THE INTEREST, THE PASSION AND
THE RESOURCES WITH THIS CRA BOARD.
THE SAME AS CITY COUNCIL AND A TOTALLY SEPARATE ENTITY THAT
STANDS ALONG WITH THE CITY AND WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO BE
ABLE TO THE JACKSON HOUSE IF WE CAN WORK THROUGH ONE OF
THESE ISSUES.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT THE END OF THIS IS TO FIGURE OUT
IF THERE IS SOME WAY TO PARTNER WITH THE FOUNDATION OR IF
THE FOUNDATION CAN HELP US PARTNER WITH USF OR THE HISTORY
CENTER TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOL OF THE IMMEDIATE PROBLEMS,
BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO SAVE THIS IMPORTANT STRUCTURE,
RENOVATE IT.
IF IT HAPPENS TO FALL DOWN, THE THIRD MOTION WHAT IT WILL
NEED TO REBUILD IT.
EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW THAT IF IT FALLS DOWN, THAT WE
INTEND TO REBUILD IT IN PLACE.
THE EXAMPLE FOR THAT IS MANHATTAN CASINO IN ST. PETE THAT IS
A RECONSTRUCTION BUT IMPORTANT HISTORICAL BUILDING IN ST.
PETE.
09:45:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
09:45:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WHAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST I CAN TAKE YOU THROUGH YBOR CITY.
MAYBE I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING, BUT I LOVE HISTORY AND STUDY
TAMPA HISTORY.
I CAN GIVE YOU A TOUR AND GO THIS IS THIS AND THIS IS A
THAT.
I CAN TAKE YOU THROUGH WEST TAMPA.
I CAN TAKE YOU THROUGH SOUTH TAMPA.
I CAN TAKE -- LIKE I DID WITH A FRIEND OF MINE ON MONDAY, IN
LABOR DAY, SPENT THE DAY DRIVING AROUND EAST TAMPA AND
SHOWING HIM A LOT OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURES THAT ARE STILL
THERE ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE WHERE IT WAS A BUSIER
COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, THROUGH THE CEMETERIES,
THROUGH SO MANY THINGS.
BUT I CAN'T TAKE YOU DOWN CENTRAL AVENUE, BECAUSE EVERYTHING
WAS DEMOLISHED FOR THE MOST PART.
YBOR CITY IS PROTECTED AS A NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK
DISINDUSTRY STRICT.
WEST TAMPA HAS A HISTORIC DISTRICT WITH CIGAR FACTORIES AND
OTHER CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
THROUGH THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND THE BLACK BUSINESS DISTRICT
THAT WAS THRIVING UNTIL, LET'S SAY 1967.
BECAUSE WE HAD RIOTS AND THIS WAS THE CATALYST THAT CAUSED
-- FROM THE WORDS OF MOSES WHITE, WE HAVE TO TEAR DOWN
CENTRAL AVENUE.
IF HE SAID IT OR NOT.
BUT WHAT I READ AFTER THE RIOTS AND WHATNOT.
THE YOYNER FAMILY AS THE COTTON CLUB, THE LAST HOLD UP SOLD
IN 1974.
AFTER THAT.
I CAN SHOW YOU A CHURCH.
I CAN SHOW YOU THE LONGSHOREMAN'S BUILDING.
I CAN SHOW YOU THE KID-MASON CENTER.
AND I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT IS THE JACKSON HOUSE, BUT BEYOND
THAT, IF I DIDN'T TELL YOU.
DRIVING THROUGH OR COMING OFF THE INTERSTATE, PEOPLE DON'T
KNOW WHAT THAT USED TO BE.
WE LOOK AT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE JACKSON HOUSE, WE UNDER
STAND THAT WE ARE SAVING AND TRYING TO PRESERVE THE LAST
REMNANTS OF WHAT WAS SO IMPORTANT IN HISTORY.
WHAT BOTHERS ME ABOVE ALL IS THE PEOPLE THAT STOOD IN THE
LAST WAY FOR THE LAST DECADE TO GET THIS PLACE RESTORED.
IT WAS GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED AFTER THANKSGIVING.
AND NOW THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS DON'T WANT TO ALLOW THE
10-FOOT AREA AROUND FURTHER RESTORATION.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIKE JEFF VINICK.
PEOPLE LIKE THE CRA AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS PUT MONEY TOGETHER
AND STUDYING AND PRESERVING -- STUDIES TO PRESERVE THIS
HOUSE.
LOOK HOW FAR IT IS NEGLECTED.
I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 2015.
I HAVE VIDEO FROM 2014.
ONE NIGHT I PARKED ON FRANKLIN AND WALKED THROUGH DOWNTOWN
AND IT WE WALKED THROUGH THE JACKSON HOUSE TO TAKE PICTURES.
THE NEGLECT BECAUSE NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE SINCE BECAUSE OF
ALL THE ROAD BLOCKS TO WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE THEN UNTIL NOW,
EVEN WORSE CONDITION.
I TOURED THE JACKSON HOUSE, WHAT WAS IT, LAST YEAR AND A
YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
I TOOK PICTURES INSIDE AND SUPPORTED BY THE TRUSSES AND
EVERYTHING ELSE IN THERE, BUT ANY BIG STORM CAN COME IN AND
KNOCK THAT BUILDING DOWN, AGAIN, NOT BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T
WANT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BUT BECAUSE PEOPLE STOOD IN THE
WAY.
CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS STOOD IN THE WAY AS THEY ARE NOW.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I UNDERSTAND MONEY AND PROFIT.
SO SOME PEOPLE IT MAY BE AN EYESORE AND THEY WANT IT OUT OF
THE WAY, WE HAVE LOST SO MUCH HISTORY TO THE WRECKING BALL.
WE LOST SO MUCH HISTORY TO IT THE INTERSTATE.
WE LOST SO MUCH HISTORY TO GREED AND PROFIT.
WHERE PEOPLE SAYS IT OLD.
GET IT OUT OF THE WAY.
ONE OF THE LAST CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES TO THAT AREA.
I CAN'T SHOW YOU CENTRAL AVENUE EXCEPT FOR A FEW
PHOTOGRAPHS.
A FILM THAT SHOWS SOME SCENES IN CENTRAL AVENUE FROM THE
EARLY 1960s.
BUT WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN IN ORDER TO PRESERVE
THIS HOUSE.
IT FALLS DOWN.
YOU CAN BUILD A REPLICA.
NOT THE SAME THING.
LIKE HAVING A REPLICA OF A CLASSIC CAR AND THE ORIGINAL IS
WORTH $1 MILLION AND YOU BUILD THE REPLICA..NOT THE SAME
THING.
IT IS STILL A REPLICA.
IF THE WALLS COULD TALK.
THE STORY SHE IS WOULD TELL.
I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS EXTREMELY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.
HE ALREADY SAID EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.
BUT I AM GLAD WE HAVE THE STAKEHOLDERS HERE IN THE ROOM AND
WE CAN HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY, WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS
TO SAY, BUT MOSTLY I AM GRATEFUL TO PEOPLE LIKE MR. VINICK
AND OTHERS WHO STEPPED UP AND PROVIDE IS THE FUNDING TO GET
THIS DONE AND SHORED UP AND POSSIBLY RESTORED.
AND SHAME ON THE INDIVIDUALS THAT KEEP STAND THE WAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE -- THE HATRED IS TOWARD THIS HOUSE.
I JUST DON'T KNOW.
LET -- LET US PRESERVE THE LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY THAT IS
LEFT IN THAT AREA.
THANK YOU.
09:50:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
09:50:33AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
AND I -- YOU KNOW, FOR ME, THE ULTIMATE IDEA IS TO USE CITY
DOLLARS, CRA DOLLARS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, TO PRESERVE THIS.
IF THAT MEANS BUYING THE EASEMENT.
WHATEVER -- WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO IN A LEGAL SENSE,
OBVIOUSLY, WE SHOULD LOOK AT DOING.
I READ DR. COLLINS LETTER FROM -- I THINK IT WAS SENT
YESTERDAY AND THE FEELING THAT I GET FROM THAT
CORRESPONDENCE IS THAT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE
OWNERSHIP OF -- OF THE JACKSON HOUSE IN THE PRESENT HANDS
WHERE IT IS AT.
I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
BUT WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO
PRESERVE THIS HOUSE 100%.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL VISION FOR THAT AREA IN
PARTICULAR.
I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS BEEN WORKING A LOT ON UNION
STATION.
GOOD WILLING WHEN THIS HOUSE IS RESTORED.
IMPROVEMENTS ON UNION STATION.
THE RADICAL TRANSFORMATION WE WILL HAVE IN THAT AREA AND
BUILT ON HISTORICAL PRESERVATION SOMETHING THAT IN THE CITY
OF TAMPA WE REALLY DON'T DO A GOOD JOB AT, BUT A LOT OF
CITIES, A LOT OF CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES DON'T DO A GOOD
JOB.
A LOT -- EVERYWHERE YOU GO, THERE IS SOMETHING HISTORICALLY
RELEVANT THAT HAPPENED JUST A FEW DAYS AGO, WE DEDICATED A
RACIAL LYNCHING MARKER THAT DEALT WITH THE LYNCHING OF
ROBERT JOHNSON IN 1934.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HE WAS TRANSFERRED FROM CITY
POLICE TO A PERSON WHO CLAIMED TO BE WITH THE COUNTY POLICE
CONSTABLE OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL.
EVERYWHERE THAT YOU GO SOMETHING HISTORICAL HAPPENED AND WE
DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB OF TALKING ABOUT THAT.
NAMES IN TAMPA ROBERT SAUNDERS.
100th ANNIVERSARY OF HIS BIRTH.
ONE OF THE GREAT CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS THAT TOOK OVER NAACP
AFTER HARRIET MOORE WAS MURDERED.
TAMPA GUY.
GARLAND STEWART.
SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
FRANCISCO RODRIGUEZ, IN MY OPINION WE DON'T TALK AS MUCH AS
WE SHOULD.
A GREAT PART OF OUR HISTORY.
THIS HOUSE STANDS FOR A LOT OF THINGS.
STANDS FOR JIM CROW.
STANDS FOR SEGREGATION.
SEGREGATION THAT WAS FORCED THROUGH VIOLENCE, THROUGH
BRUTALITY, THROUGH TORTURE AND THROUGH LYNCHING.
TO ME THAT IS WHAT THIS HOUSE STANDS FOR.
SO I SUPPORT DOING WHATEVER IT TAKES TO SUPPORT THIS HOUSE.
WHETHER IT IS TAKING ON THE EASEMENT.
WHATEVER LEGAL OPTIONS WE HAVE FROM A MONETARY PERSPECTIVE,
LET'S GET IT DONE.
I SUPPORT AS OTHERS HAVE SAID THE GREAT WORK THAT MR. VINICK
AND OTHERS DID IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
TRULY PHILANTHROPIC WORK FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR TAKEN THE
LEAD.
THE CITY NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO MATCH IT, BUT KNOW THE MORAL
VISION BEHIND THAT.
WE TALKED IN CITY COUNCIL.
WE WILL HEAR ISSUES OF MARTI MACEO IN YBOR CITY.
I BROUGHT UP BEFORE THE DR. WALTER SMITH HOUSE.
WE NEED TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO PRESERVE OUR HISTORY, BUT
ESPECIALLY FOR GROUPS THAT HAVE BEEN MARGINALIZED,
BRUTALIZED AND OPPRESSED.
THERE IS A REASON WHY PEOPLE WANT TO IGNORE HISTORY AND
OVERLOOK HISTORY.
BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE TO BE REMINDED MUCH THE UGLY THINGS IN
HISTORY.
WE LIKE TO BE REMINDED OF THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS THIS HISTORY,
BUT WE HAVE TO PRESERVE TO REMIND OURSELVES OF THAT PAINFUL
HISTORY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:54:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU KNOW, HISTORY ALWAYS HAVE A WAY OF
REPEATING ITSELF.
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO COLORED FOLKS.
YOU KNOW, THAT PROPERTY OVER THERE IS BEING HELD UP FOR A
REASON.
BECAUSE SOMEBODY WANTS IT.
SOMEBODY WANTS IT.
WHAT IS IT GOING TO COST FOR US TO GET IT?
IF WE CAN GET IT.
SO I NEED FOR US TO START THINKING OF THE OTHER OPTIONS.
IF WE CAN'T GET IT OR THEY WON'T SELL IT, WE GOT A STRUCTURE
THAT COULD FALL DOWN TOMORROW.
I AM A REALIST.
I AM A HISTORY PERSON.
YOU KNOW -- BUT I AM A REALIST.
IF IT FALLS DOWN TOMORROW, WHAT DO WE DO?
A PLAN OF ACTION NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST TWO OR THREE
ALTERNATIVES.
IF YOU CAN'T GET THE PROPERTY.
THEY WON'T BUDGE ON THEIR EASEMENT.
WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO NOW?
DO WE GO AND ERECT IT THE WAY WE CAN?
DO WE TEAR IT DOWN AND LOOK AT ANOTHER PLACE ON CENTRAL
AVENUE AND OTHER PLACES?
SO I -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO SPEND
MONEY, WE SPEND GOOD MONEY TO GET IT DONE AND DONE RIGHT AND
EVERYBODY WILL HAPPY WITH IT.
SOME PEOPLE STILL WON'T BE HAPPY.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLAN OF ACTION IN
CASE THAT THING FALL DOWN TOMORROW, THE NEXT DAY.
AND BELIEVE -- I THANK GOD IT IS STILL STANDING.
A REASON WHY IT IS STILL STANDING.
A REASON WHY IT IS STILL STANDING.
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLAN TO MAKE SURE WE CAN
GET IT DONE.
I AM NOT GOING TO TALK THAT LONG ABOUT HISTORY.
BUT LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN GET IT DONE.
09:56:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
09:56:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AGREE WITH MR. GUDES.
GOING FORWARD, WHERE ARE WE -- ARE THERE ANY NEGOTIATIONS AT
ALL?
AND WHAT ARE THEY IF THEY ARE GOING ON NOW.
09:56:21AM >> SO --
09:56:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HESITATION TELLS ME IT IS IN DOUBT.
09:56:25AM >> WELL, WE JUST REENGAGED ALL THIS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE TO PRESENT
TODAY BEFORE YOU.
AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS THEN -- WE CAN CONTINUE THOSE
DISCUSSIONS OUTSIDE OF THIS SESSION SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO
SO PUBLICLY OF NEGOTIATIONS OR ACQUISITIONS FOR THE ADJACENT
PROPERTY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU WILL HEAR A LOT FROM DR. COLLINS
AND THEN THE RESPECTED PRESENTERS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO
PRESERVE THIS BUILDING AND PLACE AS WELL.
AND IT ALLIANCE WITH MUCH WHAT HAS BEEN SAID BEFORE YOU
TODAY AND WHAT YOU ALL HAVE SAID ALREADY.
SO IF YOU JUST ALLOW THAT PRESENTATION, AND WE CAN TAKE ANY
FURTHER ACTION THEREAFTER.
09:57:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
09:57:07AM >> VERY GOOD.
LET ME YIELD THE FLOOR.
09:57:09AM >> WE ARE WAITING FOR THE PDF.
09:57:36AM >> HE'S READY TO LOAD.
WHILE WE ARE WAITING TO LOAD IN THE INTEREST OF YOUR TIME,
THANK YOU.
I AM CAROLYN COLLINS.
I CHAIR THE JACKSON HOUSE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION INC.
I ACTUALLY ACQUIRED THIS THAT PAY ME SO MUCH MONEY.
I ACQUIRED THIS FROM NONE OTHER THAN MR. WILLIE ROBINSON.
HE ENGAGED ME AND MADE ME SIT ON THE PORCH WITH HIM FOR DAYS
TO TALK.
HE STAYED IN THE NAACP OFFICE WHEN I WAS THE PRESIDENT TO
TALK.
AND HIS WHOLE CONVERSATION WAS TO LET ME KNOW HOW HARD IT
HAD BEEN FOR BOTH HIS MOTHER AND SUBSEQUENTLY HIM IN TRYING
TO SAVE THIS HOUSE.
I GOT A CALL FROM KATHY CASTOR'S OFFICE WHEN I WAS PREPARING
TO LEAVE THE NAACP, AND THE CALL WAS, WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T
LET THAT -- AND I GO WHY DID YOU CALL ME WITH THE NAACP.
AND SHE SAID BECAUSE I KNOW IF YOU WERE COMMITTED TO
SOMETHING, YOU WILL DO IT.
I WANT TO SAY WHEN I AM WAITING FOR THIS, IT IS INTERESTING
THAT SOMEONE IS IN THE AUDIENCE.
NATASHA GOODLEY.
STAND UP.
NATASHA WAS ONE OF OUR VICE PRESIDENTS.
WE AGREED TO TAKE ON THIS PROJECT AND I SAID TO KATHY
CASTOR'S OFFICE THAT WE WILL DO THIS FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH
BECAUSE THAT WHEN IT WAS APPROACHED.
WE WILL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT AND WILLIE WAS ON OUR BOARD FROM
OMEGA.
NATASHA SAID, NO.
AS A BOARD MEMBER, SHE SAID LET'S NOT TAKE IT ON FOR A
MONTH.
LET'S GIVE IT ABOUT A YEAR.
GIVE OURSELVES MORE TIME AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
THANK NATASHA FOR PURSUING.
I WAS GET READY TO LEAVE THE NAACP.
THEY SAID NOBODY WILL TAKE THE COMMITMENT TO DO OVER THE
LAST YEAR TO DO THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE DONE, SO THEY ASKED
ME TO TAKE THIS ON AS PRESIDENT OF THE BRANCH AT THAT TIME.
YOU BE THE CHAIR OF THE JACKSON HOUSE AND WHEREVER YOU GOES,
IT GOES WITH YOU.
AND I AM GLAD THAT HAPPENED.
HAD NOT THAT HAPPENED, I MAY NOT BE WHERE I AM NOW WITH THE
JACKSON HOUSE.
AND IT MAY NOT BE WHERE IT IS TODAY.
SO OUTSIDE OF THE NAACP.
I CONTINUED -- WE HAVE A COUPLE -- I'M WAITING FOR IT TO
LOAD --
09:59:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT IS UP.
09:59:59AM >> OKAY.
10:00:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH.
10:00:01AM >> I THOUGHT I SENT THE WRONG ONE.
OKAY.
IT'S ALL RIGHT.
I HAVE BOARD MEMBERS HERE.
FULL PLEASE STAND.
WE HAVE TWO BOARD -- TWO -- I AM -- I DON'T KNOW PEOPLE VERY
WELL.
IT'S OKAY.
I HAD TWO PRESENTATIONS -- I HAVE UPDATED AND AND I WILL GO
THROUGH THIS ONE.
THIS IS GOOD.
I HAVE BOTH HERE OUR SECRETARY, MRS. MATTHEWS AND WE ALSO --
AND SHE IS AWESOME SECRETARY.
AND I ALSO HAVE ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE ASKED TO
COME ON BOARD WITH US BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONE WHO DID THE
FIRST STABILIZATION, AND THAT IS CONTRACTOR.
MR. WILLIAMS.
WILLIAMS.
WE ACTUALLY -- WE MEET, WE GO OVER THINGS AND BEFORE I SAY
ANYTHING, WE HAVE A LETTER -- I WANT TO READ THIS STATEMENT
IN THE LETTER.
SO IT IS VERY CLEAR.
YOU HAVE THE LETTER.
I AM NOT GOING TO READ THE WHOLE LETTER.
TO THE PUBLIC, IF THEY WANT IT, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO SHARE IT
WITH THEM.
BUT I WANT TO READ THIS PARAGRAPH EXPLICITLY CLEAR.
FIRST, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL THE JACKSON HOUSE
FOUNDATION CONSIDER ANY OFFER TO SELL ITS LAND OR RELOCATE
THE JACKSON HOUSE.
THE JACKSON HOUSE DID MORE THAN HOST THE LUMINARIES OF THE
DAY.
IT IS HISTORY ITSELF.
THE LAND AND THE BUILDING UPON -- IT IS ONLY PHYSICAL
REMINDERS THAT THE AREA THAT WAS CALLED THE HARLEM OF THE
SOUTH AND A FUNCTIONAL PART OF TAMPA'S HISTORY -- AND I CALL
IT DOWNTOWN HISTORY.
SO IF YOU SEVERED THE BUILDING FROM THE LAND OR THE LAND
FROM ITS OWNERSHIP, IT'S TO SEVER THE JACKSON HOUSE'S TIES
TO HISTORY AND A SIGNIFICANT IMPORTANT LEGACY.
SO I THANK YOU GUYS SINCERELY FOR INDICATING THAT.
AND THE FOUNDATION -- THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE INCURRED HAS
BEEN THE EASEMENT LATELY.
WE WITH VINIK -- THE VINIK FOUNDATION.
I TELL YOU THAT THE STATE OF FLORIDA GAVE US A MILLION
DOLLAR ON THE GRANT.
THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
THE CITY GAVE HALF A MILLION.
WE HAVE THE VINIK.
WE HAVE FUNDS.
WE HAVE MONEY.
WE JUST HAVE SOMEONE WHO WILL NOT GIVE US A MINIMUM OF
20-FEET EASEMENT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE, THE EAST OF THE
WEST SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
BUT CLEARLY I WANT TO PUT IT AT REST.
WE HAVE DECIDED WE NEED THE EASEMENT BAD.
IT WILL AFFORD US SO MUCH THAT WE NEED TO DO TO COMPLETE
THIS BUILDING.
WE HAVE TALKED WITH -- AND I WILL EVEN PUT THEIR NAME HERE
SO I WILL NOT FORGET.
WE HAVE BEEN REFERRED TO -- AND I HAVE BEGIN CONVERSATION
WITH THE FLORIDA TRUST HISTORICAL PRESERVATION WHO CAN
SOMETIMES LOOK AT -- AND MAKE DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPEN.
BUT THE JACKSON HOUSE WILL BE BUILT.
IT WILL BE BUILT AT ITS CURRENT LOCATION.
AND YOU HEARD ME SAY THIS BEFORE WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE MONEY
BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE OPPOSITION.
NOW WE HAVE MONEY, AND WE HAVE A BLOCKAGE OPPOSITION ON THE
SIDE.
BUT IF WE HAVE TO BUILD IT WITHOUT, IT WILL BE BUILT.
THE JACKSON HOUSE WILL BE A HISTORICAL SITE THAT WILL BE
MAINTAINED IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
LET ME SEE IF I CAN DO THIS AGAIN.
I AM GOING TO PRETTY MUCH GO PRETTY FAST HERE, BECAUSE MUCH
OF THIS YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY DID THE PRESENTATION.
AND THIS IS THE 2015 HOUSE THAT SOMEONE SPOKE ABOUT.
THAT IS THE HOUSE TODAY.
THAT IS THE 2022 HOUSE.
THAT IS THE HOUSE THAT IS BEING HELD UP FOR A MINIMUM OF
20-FEET EASEMENT ON THE EAST AND THE WEST.
IT WOULD ACCOMPLISH SO MUCH AND WOULD ONLY HAVE TO BE
SACRIFICE A FEW PARKING SPACES.
I WOULD SAY OF, WHAT, 10 OR 20 PARKING SPACES WILL DO FOR
MANY YEARS OF HISTORY AND IMPROVING WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN OUR
CITY IS JUST SIGNIFICANT.
I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS AND SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF
TIME.
I THANK MOSES JACKSON AND HIS FAMILY MADE A SIGNIFICANT
CONTRIBUTION IN HISTORY TO THIS CITY.
THEY KEPT THEIR DAUGHTERS IN THE HOME.
THEY MADE IT WAS NOT JUST A BOARDING HOME.
YES, WE WILL TAKE THAT OFFER FOR THAT PIANO.
THERE WERE THREE IN THE HOUSE.
ONE IN THE FRONT.
ONE IN THE MIDDLE HALLWAY AND ONE IN THE REAR AND ALL OF THE
PERFORMERS THAT LIVED THERE HAD JAM SESSIONS.
A TISKET ATASKET, I LOVERS MY YELLOW BASKET WAS ACTUALLY
DONE THERE IN THAT HOME.
THIS A PICTURE OF SOMEONE -- EVERYBODY SAYS THIS IS MOSES
AND SARAH JACKSON.
NO IT WAS NOT.
SOMEONE ELSE WHO STAYED IN THAT HOUSE WE CAN'T IDENTIFY THAT
TOOK A PICTURE ON THE PORCH AND ABLE TO GET TO IT.
MRS. SARAH JACKSON AND WILLIE ROBINSON ARE WHAT IS KEEPING
THE HOUSE FROM FALLING TODAY.
THE AMTRAK TRAIN THAT YOU SEE IN THE BACKGROUNDS.
AND WHAT WE SAY IS THAT WE HAVE A HISTORICAL DESIGNATION IN
OUR CITY, OUR COUNTY, AND OUR STATE.
WE EVEN HAVE IT IN WASHINGTON D.C. AT THE CONGRESSIONAL
LEVEL.
WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT SO IS THE PROPERTY THAT WE NEED
WILL ASSIST NEWS BUILDING A HOUSE.
WE RETAIN THE CERTIFICATION.
WE MAY BE ABLE TO REBUILD IT -- PIECES ARE FALLING DOWN.
SOME ARE FALLING NOW.
WE NEED TO GET IT BACK.
BUT THE PROCESS ALL THIS HEAR COME FROM THE EXPERTS, THEY
WILL TELL YOU HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO IT AND WHAT IT WILL BE
COSTING US TO DO IT, BUT THE HOUSE WILL BE REBELT.
AND QUESTIONER READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS AND
WITH THE GRANT WE HAVE FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THAT GRANT
SAYS YOU HAVE A TIME LIMIT, BUT WE WILL EXPAND IT FOR YOU.
TELL ME WHAT THE LIMITATION IN YOUR CITY THAT IS BLOCKING A
HISTORICAL PROPERTY, AND WE MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO HELP YOU
WITH IT.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO STAYED IN THE HOUSE.
I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER ALL OF THAT.
OF COURSE WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU BUY ITS TO DO SOMETHING
BECAUSE AMTRAK TRAIN BROUGHT IN NATIVE-AMERICANS, MILITARY
INDIVIDUALS PERFORMERS AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO STAY THERE.
HAVE SERVICES OVER THERE.
THE CENTRAL AVENUE, THEY HAVE WILLIE'S FATHER DO THE HAIR
OF NAT KING COLE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND WE WANTS TO
MAINTAIN IT HERE.
WE HAVE SO MANY SUPPORTERS, CITY COUNCIL, MAYORS, BELIEVE IT
OR NOT.
SOME PEOPLE SAY THEY DIDN'T, BUT THEY DID.
WE HAD MR. VICIK BEFORE HE GAVE US A MAJOR SHOT IN THE ARM
GAVE US A SHOT OF MONEY THAT OUR CONTRACTOR HERE USED MR.
WILLIAMS TODAY DO THE FIRST STABILIZATION.
THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
MISS JOHNNY SANDERS AND JOHNNY IS BORN IN THE
HOUSE.
RAISED IN THE HOUSE.
AND SHE WAS THE FIRST PERSON WHO GAVE US FUNDS THAT WE
NEEDED.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, A YOUNG LADY WHO WAS BLIND WHO
WALKED PAST THE HOUSE EVERY DAY SAY HERE.
GAVE ME A $100 CHECK.
THE FIRST DONATION.
WHAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO DO IS SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE.
WE WANT TO INSPIRE THE FUTURE AND WE WANT TO ASK YOU TO
LISTEN INTUITIVELY TO THE TAMPA BAY HISTORY CENTER.
THE INTERACTION WE HAVE WITH THEM.
AND WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THEM.
AND I WILL ASK YOU TO LISTEN AS WELL TO OUR PRESENTATION
FROM RON FORD, THE CONSULTANT.
WE WILL BE WORKING CONSISTENTLY WITH THEM.
THE JACKSON HOUSE BOARD MEETS ONCE A MONTH.
WE ARE ABOUT TO GO BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND MEET
WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THE HOUSE WILL BE REBUILT.
AND I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE THAT IG YOU CAN TO DO HELP US
WITH THE EASEMENT, THE BOARD, THE COMMUNITY THAT IS
INTERESTED AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SENT US E-MAILS AND SAY
DON'T LET THAT HOUSE FALL.
I AM TIRED OF LOOKING AT THAT HOUSE LIKE THAT.
CAN WE DO AND I WILL SAY AND MISS MATTHEWS WILL TELL YOU
GETTING LETTERS EVERY DAY FROM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO
SAY HOW CAN I VOLUNTEER?
HOW CAN I HELP?
WE GET MONEY ON OUR LITTLE PAY PAL THAT PEOPLE SAY HOW MUCH
WILL THIS TO DO HELP.
SO WE NEED THE MIDGE MUM -- I KEPT SAYING THAT BECAUSE THAT
THE AGREEMENT.
A MINIMUM OF 20 FEET EASEMENT ON BOTH SIDES COUNTY HOUSE SO
WE CAN BUILD IT.
CONTINUE TO GET GRANT FUNDS SO IT WILL NEVER GET IN THIS
CONDITION AGAIN.
AND TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT WHICH IS MISS IN TAMPA THAT
WE CAN NEVER GET BACK.
HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT NOW.
10:09:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBERS MANISCALCO.
10:09:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. MASSEY, I HAVE A QUESTION.
IF WE CAN'T GET THE EASEMENT VOLUNTARILY.
CAN WE USE EMINENT DOMAIN TO TAKE IT OVER?
10:09:15AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THIS AGENCY HAS NO AUTHORITY OF EMINENT
DOMAIN OVER FLORIDA LAW.
NO, THIS AGENCY CANNOT.
THE CITY POTENTIALLY, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO SERVE A PUBLIC
PURPOSE.
WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL OR IMMINENT
DOMAIN COUNSEL.
HISTORIC PRESERVATION, THERE HAVE BEEN OCCASIONALLY SOME
ACTIONS TAKEN FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION PURPOSES.
USUALLY FOR THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.
NOT FOR EASEMENTS PER SE.
SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO ENGAGE OUTSIDE COUNSEL AND
CONSULT WITH THE VIABILITY OF THAT OF THE CITY TAKING
ACTION.
10:09:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE -- NOT IN AGENCY,
TO USE EMINENT DOMAIN TO TAKE THE EASEMENT AND ONCE THE JOB
IS COMPLETED TO DEED IT BACK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER?
10:10:06AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
NO.
NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
UNDER STATE LAW, IF WE EXERCISE EMINENT DOMAIN, WE CAN NOT
CONVEY ANY INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY THAT WE CONVEY FOR A
MINIMUM OF TEN YEARS.
10:10:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TEN YEARS AND THEN SELL IT BACK TO THE
OWNER FOR A DOLLAR?
10:10:22AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
CORRECT.
10:10:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
10:10:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBERS CARLSON.
10:10:27AM >>BILL CARLSON:
DR. COLLINS, FOR FORKING UP HERE AND THANK
FOR ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE DOING TO SAVE THE JACKSON
HOUSE AND KEEP THE STORIES ALIVE.
WE MADE THREE MOTIONS FOR TODAY.
AND I JUST WANT, JUST FOR THE RECORD, GET YOUR
CLARIFICATION.
WE ARE CITY COUNCILMEMBERS BUT SITTING AS A COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BOARD WHICH IS A SEPARATE ENTITY.
AS MR. MASSEY JUST SAID, WE HAVE DIFFERENT AUTHORITIES.
BUT THE FIRST MOTION WAS TO -- FOR THE CRA -- NOW THE CRA
HAS MONEY THAT SOME OF IT IS DISCRETIONARY AND EVEN THOUGH
THE CITY HAS A BIGGER BUDGET, WE MAYBE HAVE MORE
DISCRETIONARY BUDGET THAN THE CITY DOES WHICH WE ALREADY
MADE A COMMITMENT IF -- THE FIRST MOTION WAS THAT THE CRA
WILL LOOK TO OFFER TO BUY THE 20 FOOT EASEMENT.
FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE ARE YOU OKAY -- ENCOURAGE THE CRA TO
TRY TO BUY THAT SO WE CAN ACQUIRE THAT ON BEHALF OF THE
JACKSON HOUSE?
10:11:33AM >> MOST DEFINITELY.
10:11:35AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE THIRD ONE WAS THAT -- THAT WAS TO START
THE PROCESS OF LOOKING TO REBUILD IF IT WAS -- IF IT FELL
DOWN.
AND AT LEAST MY GOAL IN DOING THAT IS TO DEMONSTRATE TO THE
PUBLIC THAT IT IS GOING TO BE IN THE SAME PLACE, WHETHER
THIS BUILDING OR A NEW BUILDING.
SO ARE -- IS YOUR BOARD OKAY IF THE CRA IS SUPPORTED WITH
MONETARY OR MONEY OR OTHER RESOURCES TO SUPPORT YOUR EFFORTS
IN PLANNING IN CASE IT FALLS DOWN SO WE CAN DEMONSTRATE TO
THE PUBLIC THAT IT IS GOING TO BE THERE ONE WAY OR THE
OTHER.
10:12:11AM >> I THINK WE ARE MORE THAN OKAY WITH THAT.
WE REALLY SUPPORT THAT.
AND I THINK THAT IN THE FUTURE PRESENTATIONS, COUPLE OF
PRESENTATIONS ABOUT TO BE MADE NOW, YOU MAY EVEN SEE HOW WE
ARE LOOKING IN THAT VAIN AS WELL.
I MEAN A SINCERE STABILIZED BUILDING.
IT HAS BEEN STABILIZED TWICE.
SO WE WON'T SEE A COMPLETE COLLAPSE OF THE BUILDING.
WE HAVE SEEN WHAT THE HOUSE LOOKS LIKE NOW.
WHAT WEATHER HAS DONE WITH IT.
WHAT TIME HAS DONE WITH IT.
YES, WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF FUNDING SUPPORT TO GET THE
EASEMENT AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOUSE IS REBUILT WHERE IT
IS AS THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:12:51AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY PERSONAL -- MAYBE YOU HEARD ME SAY THIS
BEFORE.
MY PERSONAL INTEREST IN KEEPING IT WHERE IT IS THAT --
BESIDES ALL THE OTHER GREAT STORIES, SELLS THE STORY OF
SEGREGATION BECAUSE IT IS ACROSS FROM THE TRAIN STATION.
WHEN YOU -- WHEN I TAKE MY KIDS -- MY KIDS ALL KNOW THE
WHOLE STORY ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE.
THEY TELL OTHERS.
BUT WHEN I TAKE THEM THERE, I SAY DO YOU REALIZE THAT PEOPLE
OF A CERTAIN COLOR COULDN'T STAY IN WHITE HOTELS.
THEY HAD TO STAY HERE OR ONE PLACE IN WEST TAMPA.
I THINK THAT STORY IS IMPORTANT TO TELL.
AND I HOPE ONE DAY PLEASE REMEMBER ME.
I WANT TO PERSONALLY SPONSOR THE PIANO BECAUSE I WANT TO
HEAR MUSIC PLAY THERE AGAIN.
THE THIRD ONE WAS TO BUY THE BUILDING.
IF YOU JUST HEAR ME OUT FOR A SECOND.
NOT TO -- ABSOLUTELY NOT TO MOVE IT.
I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR OF ANY FUNDING THAT WOULD ENABLE
ANYBODY TO MOVE IT.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO MENTION OTHER EXAMPLES DOCTOR BUT THERE
IS ANOTHER CASE WITH ANOTHER KIND OF ART HISTORY
ORGANIZATION RIGHT NOW WHERE THE CITY HAD TO BUY THE LAND
FROM THE FOUNDATION SO THAT THE CITY CAN FILE AN EMINENT
DOMAIN.
SO IF IT -- IT MAY BE POSSIBLE -- MR. MANISCALCO WAS TALKING
ABOUT EMINENT DOMAIN.
THIS BOARD CAN'T FILE EMINENT DOMAIN, BUT THE CITY CAN.
AND -- I WOULD ASK YOU JUST TO STAY CLOSE TO THE LAWYERS OF
THE CITY IN THE CASE THAT WE CAN'T PURCHASE THE LAND AND
MAKE A GOOD-FAITH EFFORT TO PURCHASE THE LAND AND NOBODY
WILL SELL IT, A CASE OF EMINENT DOMAIN.
BUT IF THE SITUATION AROSE THAT THE ONLY WAY TO FILE EMINENT
DOMAIN IS FOR THE CITY OR THE CRA TO OWN IT, THEN WITH THE
SUPPORT OF THE FOUNDATION, I WOULD -- I WOULD TRY TO GET THE
FUNDING FROM THIS BOARD TO -- TO PUT IT -- TO HAVE THE CITY
CONTROL IT JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF IMMINENT DOMAIN.
AS MR. MASSEY SAID, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE COULDN'T TRANSFER IT
BACK FOR TEN YEARS, BUT I ENCOURAGE TO YOU TALK TO YOUR
BOARD'S LAWYERS IN THE CASE THAT HAPPENS, WHAT COVENANTS YOU
WOULD WANT TO PUT IN AND TALK TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT OF THE
CRA AND THE CITY WHAT COVENANTS ARE POSSIBLE TO PROTECT THE
INTEREST OF THE FOUNDATION.
BUT WE WANT THINGS TO MOVE FORWARD MORE QUICKLY.
THE OTHER THING I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT THERE IS AN
ELECTION IN MARCH.
ALTHOUGH THE MAYOR HAS SAID SHE IS RUNNING AGAIN, BUT RUMORS
OTHER PEOPLE RUNNING AND AT LEAST ONE OF THEM TRIED TO TEAR
DOWN THE JACKSON HOUSE BEFORE.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY ON CITY COUNCIL IS RUNNING FOR
REELECTION AND NO GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL ALL BE SITTING
HERE.
I FEEL SOME URGENCY TO GET SOME THINGS DONE BEFORE MARCH.
THAT MIGHT NOT BE A TIMELINE THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT, BUT I
ENCOURAGE YOUR BOARD TO THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE I
THINK UNANIMOUS SUPPORT ON THIS BOARD.
AND YOU ALREADY SEEN THE MAYOR'S SUPPORT AND SEEN SUPPORT IN
THE COMMUNITY.
ENCOURAGE US TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO GET THINGS
DONE BEFORE THE MARCH ELECTION.
10:15:51AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE ARE
LOOKING ALSO AT THE FLORIDA TRUST FOR HISTORIC SITES AND
THEY HAVE SOME CONCERNS AND THE GRANT WE HAVE FROM THE STATE
OF FLORIDA.
THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY TOLD US TO LOOK AT AS WELL.
SO MY BOARD MEMBER SENT ME A NOTE AND SAID EMINENT DOMAIN
THIS WEEK OR LAST WEEK AND WE WERE ASKING QUESTIONS.
WE ARE WIDE OPEN TO LISTEN.
WE HAVE ATTORNEYS THAT HAVE BEEN KIND TO US AS PRO BONO AND
AN ATTORNEY ON OUR BOARD NOW TO HELP US ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE JACKSON HOUSE IS REBUILT.
THAT IT STAYS ON THAT PARCEL OF LAND WHERE IT IS FOR
HISTORICAL PURPOSES.
AND WE WILL LISTEN TO EVERYTHING, BUT CLEARLY WE HAVE TAKEN
A REAL HARD POSITION.
THAT IS WHY THAT SECOND AND THIRD PARAGRAPH IS IN THE LETTER
BUT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE WILL PUSH, MOVE, AND MANEUVER MAKE
ASSESSMENTS AND MODIFICATIONS AND ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN THE JACKSON HOUSE.
WE JUST HAVE A REAL STRONG POSITION OF HISTORY IN THIS CITY
WHERE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE OFFERED TO ASSIST WILLIE AND HIS
MOTHER AND IT JUST DIDN'T GO THAT WAY.
AND EVERY TIME I THINK OF ANYTHING DIFFERENT, I CAN HEAR
WILLY ON MY SHOULDER TELLING ME NO, NO, NO, DON'T DO THAT.
THAT IS WHY WE ARE SO STRONG ON IT.
WE MADE A CLEAR COMMITMENT AND I FEEL LIKE WHATEVER I DO
WITH THIS BOARD FOR THIS HOUSE, WE ARE DOING IT FOR WILLIE
ROBINSON AND HIS MOTHER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I DIDN'T SAY THIS BUT I NEED TO.
WE RECEIVED LONG SUMS OF MONEY WITH THE CONTINGENCY BASED ON
THE HOUSE BEING REBUILT TO CONTINUE GETTING MONEY.
AND I WANT TO THANK THE CITY, THE STATE, AND THE COUNTY.
WE HAVE GOTTEN EXCESSIVE MONEY.
MR. VINK AND I AM TALKING HALF A MILLION UP.
PEOPLE MAKE THE COMMITMENT THAT YOU GUYS JUST MADE WHEN YOU
INDICATED YOU WANTED TO SEE THE HOUSE BACK.
AND WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE WITHOUT CHRISTINE OVER
HERE AND SHE HAS BEEN A JEWEL.
AND TYLER.
WE ARE ALMOST LIKE IN THE FAMILY HOW OFTEN WE ARE GETTING
TOGETHER AND MEETING.
I THANK THEM FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS DONE.
WE ARE SERIOUS OPINION THANKS RON AND CJ HAS COME ON.
WE ACTUALLY -- THE JACKSON HOUSE WILL BE BUILT AND YOU ALL
WILL BE REELECTED COMING AGAIN BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT THE
JACKSON HOUSE.
BUT I AM JUST SIMPLY SAYING -- I AM SAYING THAT WE WILL BE
MOVING THIS YEAR AND MOVING EVEN BEFORE A NOVEMBER ELECTION.
BECAUSE WE ARE READY TO GO NOW.
WE HAVE BEEN HELD UP ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF TO TWO YEARS.
THINKING WE WERE DOING SOMETHING IN GOOD FAITH.
NEGLECT NEGOTIATING.
YES, WE HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING AND A MONTH OR SO AGO THE
NEGOTIATIONS FELL IN WHEN WE REALIZED THAT ALL THE WORK THAT
HAD GONE INTO WHAT WE CALL GOOD FAITH WAS NOT GOOD FAITH.
IT HAS HELD US UP AND WE SEE WHAT HAS DONE WITH THE HOUSE.
WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
WE SOLICIT YOUR SUPPORT AND ASK YOU TO SUPPORT US WITH IG
ANYTHING COMING OUT BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE A JACKSON HOUSE IN
TAMPA AND YOU WILL SEE SOME PROGRESS AND THE STATE TOLD US
TO DO THAT BECAUSE A LIMITATION ON THE GRANT MONEY AND OTHER
GRANT MONEY THAT IS AVAILABLE THAT THEY ALREADY TOLD ME
ABOUT.
THE NEXT PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
10:19:12AM >> GOOD MORNING, BOARD MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT AND
YOUR SUPPORT OF HISTORY.
I AM CJ ROBERTS, THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE TAMPA BAY
HISTORY CENTER.
JOINING ME IS RON FURTHER FROM OBT CONSULTING.
THE HISTORY CENTER GOT INVOLVED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TO
RESTORE THE JACKSON HOUSE.
AND WE ARE PROVIDING MOSTLY IN-KIND SUPPORT.
MOST OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS ARE INVOLVED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER
WHETHER CURATORIAL, IF A SILLS FOLKS.
WE ARE MANAGING THE VARIOUS PUBLIC GRANT FUNDS BECAUSE WE
HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO DO THAT.
QUITE A BIT OF EXPERIENCE DOING THAT.
DR. COLLINS TOUCHED ON SOME OF THIS ALREADY AND TAKE A
MOMENT AND UPDATE YOU WHERE THE PROJECT STANDS AT THIS POINT
AND THEN WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO RON WHO WILL TELL YOU WHAT
YOU ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, WHAT WE NEED.
SO IS THERE A POWERPOINT
HERE WE GO.
WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT PARTNERS.
GREAT PARTNERS INVOLVED.
I THINK THE KEY PEOPLE WHO NEED TO BE INVOLVED ARE INVOLVED.
THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN STABILIZED WITH THE INTERNAL BRACING.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ALREADY.
A SECURITY FENCE HAS BEEN INSTALLED AROUND THE HOUSE'S
PERIMETER.
BUILDING AND CONTENT HAVE BEEN DIGITALLY ARCHIVED BY THE
HERITAGE PROGRAM.
THEY DO A GREAT JOB.
THE WORK WILL BE CRITICAL FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION AND THE
HISTORICAL RECORD.
AND KEY BUILDING ELEMENTS AS WELL AS SOME OF THE CONTENTS
ARE REMOVED.
THEY ARE STORED OFFSITE.
AND TREATED AND READY TO INSTALL AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME BUT
AS WE POINTED OUT THE BUILDING IS VULNERABLE AND TIME IS
CERTAINLY NOT ON OUR SIDE.
HERE IS USF DOING THEIR GOOD WORK.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THEIR WEB SITE, INTERESTING TO TAKE
THE VIRTUAL TOUR OF THE STRUCTURE.
THE VISION -- THE VISION FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE IS TO RESTORE
IT AS A HISTORIC HOUSE OR A AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM.
TELLING THOSE STORIES OF THE HOUSE AND AS COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO POINTED OUT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ONE OF THE LAST VESTIGES OF WHAT WAS ONCE A VIBRANT
AFRICAN-AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOTHING LEFT.
TELLING THAT STORY IS KEY.
THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE LOCATION IS SO IMPORTANT
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS AROUND IT.
I REMEMBER STAND THE PARKING LOT WITH WILLIE ROBINSON ONE
DAY AND HE WAS TELLING ME WHO LIVED HERE AND WHO LIVED
THERE.
WHAT BUSINESS WAS HERE AND WHAT WAS THERE.
WE NEED TO DOCUMENT THAT AND SHARE THAT WITH THE PUBLIC.
WE WANT TO TELL THE BROADER AFRICAN-AMERICAN STORY AS WELL.
WE HAVE DONE SOME PRELIMINARY WORK WITH EXHIBIT DESIGN FOLKS
TO SEE HOW THE HOUSE MEET WORK.
I THINK IT LENDS ITSELF VERY WELL FOR TELLING THESE STORIES.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE RENDERINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE HERE.
WHERE ARE WE WITH REGARD TO COST ESTIMATES?
WE THINK IT WILL COST JUST OVER $4 MILLION TO DO THIS
PROJECT.
WE HAVE $3 MILLION IN FUNDING COMMITMENTS.
A MILLION FROM THE VINIK, MILLION AND A HALF FROM THE STATE
AND FIVE AND A HALF FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND I KNOW THE
CITY IS PREPARED TO MAKE COMMITMENT.
I DON'T HAVE THAT YET, BUT FINANCIALLY I THINK WE ARE IN
PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.
NOW FOR THE CHALLENGE.
RON, YOU WANT TO WALK US THROUGH THE.
10:22:40AM >> THANK YOU, CJ.
GOOD MORNING.
ONLY A FEW SLIDES.
WE ARE ALMOST THERE.
I WANT TO LAY OUT SOME OF THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS AND THE
CHALLENGE.
A QUESTION OF EASEMENT.
THE HOUSE STRUCTURE SITS APPROXIMATELY A FOOT INSIDE THE
PROPERTY LINE ON THE EAST PROPERTY AND THREE FEET ON THE
WEST SIDE.
THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOUSE IS SUCH THAT THE CHALLENGE
WITH THIS SITE AND THE ADJACENT SITES, IT IS A ZERO LOT
LINE.
SO THERE ARE NO SETBACKS.
SO THE CONSTRUCTION TYPE CURRENTLY AND WHAT WOULD BE
CONSTRUCTED TO MAINTAIN THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT WILL NOT MEET
FIRE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS.
THE WINDOW OPENINGS.
CHALLENGES THERE.
WE ARE TRYING TO GET FIRE SEPARATION A FOOT AND THREE FEET
AWAY FROM OUR PROPERTY LINE.
BASED ON THIS.
AND, AGAIN, HAVING TO RECONSTRUCT OR RENOVATE WITHIN
THE CONTEXT OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT IS RELATED TO
GRANT MONEY AND WHAT LEEWAY YOU HAVE WITH HOW YOU
RECONSTRUCT.
I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS IF IT FALLS DOWN AND
WE REBUILD.
TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, WE HAVE LOOKED AT IT.
AND WE HAVE DONE SOME PRELIMINARY EVALUATION.
AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME EASEMENT DIMENSIONS THROWN OUT HERE
ALREADY THIS MORNING.
A FEW DIFFERENT ONES.
WHERE WE LANDED IS ON THE EAST SIDE, WE IDENTIFIED A 14-FOOT
EASEMENT.
AGAIN, THIS IS BASED ON THE FIRE RATING SEPARATION
REQUIREMENTS NOT ONLY FOR THE MATERIAL, MATERIAL TYPES BUT,
AGAIN, THE OPENINGS IN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, MAINTAINING
VISION THROUGH THOSE OPENINGS.
ON THE WEST SIDE, WHAT WE HAVE DONE -- AND, AGAIN, THERE ARE
IS -- THIS IS OUR THE IDEA SITUATION FOR THE RESTORATION IS
WE LOOKED AT A 36-FOOT-WIDE EASEMENT ON THAT SIDE.
WHAT THAT ACCOMMODATES IS AN ADA ACCESSIBLE RAMP THAT WILL
BE ON THE WEST SIDE.
AGAIN THE HOUSE WILL NEED IT.
WE CAN'T DO IT IN THE FRONT.
IT WILL TOTALLY DESTROY THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF THE
BUILDING.
ONE-WAY DRIVE LANE FROM ZACK STREET AND ADDITIONAL PARKING
FOR ON-SITE PARKING.
MINIMAL BUT SOME ACCOMMODATION FOR THAT.
AND THAN -- THAT IS THE BROAD VIEW OF THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS
AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE EASEMENT.
A COUPLE OF IMAGES.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THIS ALREADY.
AND FLOATED AROUND.
COUPLE OF PRELIMINARY IMAGES DEVELOPED BY THE ARCHITECT OF
THE FACILITY AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A GLASS, A NEW GLASS
ENTRY POINT AT THE REAR TO BRING PEOPLE IN THE REAR,ND THAT
IS FOR GATHERING SPACE IN THE LOBBY.
SO THAT'S IT.
10:26:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:26:11AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CJ, THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP ON THIS AND
WORKING ON THIS.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE ALL THE EXPERTISE OF THE
HISTORY CENTER AND I KNOW RODNEY -- ONE OF YOUR KEY
HISTORIANS -- HAS BEEN GATHERING ALL THE DATA HE CAN FIND
ABOUT THIS.
AND HOPEFULLY ANYBODY WATCHING.
ONE OF THE THINGS MISS SOMETHING THE REGISTRY BOOK AND ALL
THE NAMES.
THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING CALL CJ AND RODNEY AND GIVE IT TO
THEM.
WE NEED DOCUMENTATION OF WHO STAYED THERE.
LETTERHEAD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
TWO THINGS.
WITH THE BUDGET YOU SHOWED $4 MILLION AND TWO AND A HALF FOR
RENOVATION.
JUST SO YOU KNOW IN 2013, WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THIS, THE
BUDGET WAS ONLY $1.4 MILLION.
IT HAS DETERIORATED MORE.
WE LOST MORE OF THE NATURAL, ORIGINAL STRUCTURE AND
MATERIALS, BUT WE ALSO -- NOW IT WILL COST $1 MILLION
BECAUSE IT WAS STOPPED ALMOST TEN YEARS AGO.
THE SECOND THING TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE CITY HAVEN'T OFFERED
ANY MONEY, BUT THE CRA HAS.
AND BECAUSE IT IS A SEPARATE ENTITY AND YOU MAY HAVE HEARD
ME SAY EARLIER THAT PEOPLE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY WITH
THE CRAs WONDER HOW THEY SUBSIDIZED THE CRA.
WANT TO KNOW THAT THE MONEY IS SPENT WISELY.
WE WANT TO MAKE A BETTER EFFORT TO SHOW PEOPLE WHAT THE CRA
IS BEING SPENT ON.
IN OUR BRANDING.
WE ARE TRYING TO BRAND EVERYTHING TAMPA CRA OR SOMETHING.
NICOLE CAN GIVE THAT YOU INFORMATION.
BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE INVOLVEMENT -- IF THERE IS AN
INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CITY.
IF THE CITY IS HELPING SOMETHING AND WE SIT AT CITY
COUNCILMEMBERS, BUT IF IT IS THE CRA, PLEASE, EVERYBODY,
MAKE SURE YOU BRAND IT CRA WITH WHATEVER MATERIALS THAT
NICOLE GIVES YOU BECAUSE WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THE
MONEY IS BEING SPENT WISELY.
THANK YOU.
10:28:06AM >> WE WILL DO THAT.
10:28:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
10:28:10AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU FOR THE POLITICALLY CORRECT VERSION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FUNNY WITH THE DISCUSSION ON CRAs.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS UNIQUELY TAILORED FOR WHAT THE CRA
SHOULD DO.
I SUPPORT THE CONCEPT OF CRA AND LIVE IN THE AREA THAT
SUBSIDIZES CRAs AND TELL PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN AREAS THAT
SUBSIDIZE CRAs THAT PHILOSOPHICALLY I DON'T MIND PAYING A
LITTLE MORE IF IT GOES TO A GOOD PURPOSE AND GO TO THE
COMMUNITIES LEFT BEHIND AND THAT'S ALL -- AND, AGAIN,
CONTROVERSY IN SOME CRAs VERSUS OTHERS.
BUT AS A GENERAL PURPOSE AND ALL SEVEN OF US AGREE WITH THE
CONCEPT OF CRAs.
I DON'T MIND PAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE AND SOME OF OUR
CONSTITUENT DON'T AS WELL IF IT GOES TO PEOPLE WHO WERE LEFT
BEHIND.
IN MY OPINION, THAT IS WHAT GOVERNMENT IS FOR.
THAT IS WHAT GOVERNMENT IS FOR.
WE ALL AGREE THAT AN APPLICATION THAT WE CAN GET IN THE
WEEDS AND WHAT NOT AND OBVIOUSLY NOT FOR TODAY, BUT GOING
BACK TO THE CRITICAL ISSUE OF THE EASEMENT.
TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
IS AS A GENERAL PURPOSE, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
JUST LOOK AT THE HOUSE.
RIGHT.
TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
I LITTLE TO NO INTEREST IN EMINENT DOMAIN.
I HAVE NO INTERESTED IN DOING THAT BY THE WAY.
I KNOW IT TAKES TIME.
IF A GOVERNMENT MAKES AN ACTION, THEN THAT PROPERTY OWNER
HAS REDRESS AND THERE ARE CERTAIN RIGHTS THAT THEY HAVE,
ETC.
THAT CAN TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
THAT CAN TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
LITIGATION TAKES A LOT OF TIME.
VERY STRESSFUL.
ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
I WANT TO LOOK FOR THE FASTEST SOLUTION.
MAY NOT BE THE CHEAPEST SOLUTION, BUT FOR ME WHEN IT COMES
TO THIS HOUSE, MONEY -- WITHIN REASON, OF COURSE, IS NOT THE
ISSUE.
TIME IS THE ISSUE.
I WANT TO LOOK FOR THE FASTEST -- DON'T GET ME WRONG, WE
SHOULD EXPLORE ALL OPTIONS.
THAT IS INCUMBENT ON THE CITY AND STAFF, ETC.
THE WAY I SEE IT THE MOST REASONABLE OPTION THAT WE HAVE
THAT MANAGES COST AND TIME AND THEN REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS
IS TO HAVE MONETARY DISCUSSIONS ON THE EASEMENT TO GET THAT
DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AGAIN, WE CAN LOOK AT ISSUES LIKE EMINENT DOMAIN.
NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT AND THAT WILL TAKE A WHILE.
THERE IS NO LIKELIHOOD.
NO ASSURANCES OF SUCCESS ON THIS ISSUE FROM MY KNOWLEDGE,
ETC., ETC.
BUT, AGAIN, GOOD REPORT.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
10:30:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:30:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I NEVER HAVE SEEN RENDERING OF WHAT THIS JACKSON HOUSE
RESTORED COULD LOOK LIKE.
I LIKE, FIRST, THAT IT LOOKS ORIGINAL.
I KNOW THE WINDOWS ARE UP TO AS THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE TO
CODE AND WHATNOT.
AND THE BACK PART WHICH IS A MESHED SCREENED-IN AREA.
FROM WHAT I SEE IS STEEL AND GLASS.
SOME CELESTE GIBBONS-PEOPLES SAY, IT MAKES IT NOT LOOK
TOTALLY ORIGINAL, BUT IN OTHER BUILDINGS -- FOR EXAMPLE, THE
OFFICERMAN-AMERICAN CENTER IN NEBRASKA.
THEY HAVE GOING LIKE THIS MODERN WITHIN THE ORIGINAL AND
LOOKS GREAT.
EVEN TEXAS AT THE DEPOSITORY WHICH IS A MUSEUM NOW, THEY
ADDED A STRUCTURE LIKE THIS WHILE MAINTAINING THE
ORIGINALITY OF IT.
BUT THIS LOOKS GREAT.
EVEN -- WHAT WILL IT LOOK LIKE.
WE HAVE SEEN IT IN THE STATE OF DETERIORATION, BUT -- YOU
KNOW, THIS WOULD BE -- THIS IS SUCH AN ASSET AND CONTINUED
TO BE SUCH AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY, IT IS A SHAME THAT IT
HAS GOTTEN TO THIS POINT.
AGAIN, TO PRESERVE THE LITTLE BIT OF PHYSICAL HISTORY WE
HAVE LEFT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE SO MUCH IS GONE.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I AM REALLY HAPPY TO SEE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OF WHAT IT
WOULD LOOK LIKE.
10:32:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
10:32:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GENTLEMEN, IF YOU HAD A CASH REGISTER FULL OF MONEY, IF YOU
HAD JUST FLOWING OUT OF YOUR POCKETS, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE
INVESTMENT WOULD BE TO REBUILD THIS BUILDING?
10:32:31AM >> WELL, I THINK -- I THINK THE RESOURCES WE HAVE IDENTIFIED
ARE ADEQUATE FOR NOW.
IF WE CAN NOT GET THE EASEMENT AND BUILD THE BUILDING
DIFFERENTLY, THE BUDGET GOES WAY UP.
AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT --
10:32:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GIVE ME SOME FORM OF BALLPARK, $4 MILLION,
$5 MILLION?
10:32:51AM >> MAYBE DEFER TO CAROLYN ON THAT.
10:32:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DOCTOR, I SHOULD HAVE ASKED YOU WHILE YOU
WERE UP HERE.
I APOLOGIZE.
10:32:59AM >> I AM GOING TO GO BY THE EXPERTS.
IF IT HAS GONE UP THIS MUCH WHEN I HAVE BEEN SAYING 2.3, 2.5
AND 4.5, I WILL SAY DOUBLE IT.
IF I HAVE MONEY FLOWING I WOULD SAY DOUBLE IT.
I SAT IN MEET WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.
I SAT IN MEET WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THEY HAVE COME IN.
MET AT CITY HALL WITH CITY OFFICIALS AND ALL THEY ARE
SELLING US THE MATERIAL THAT IS NEEDED TO MAINTAIN THE
HISTORICAL DESIGNATION.
WE WENT TO THE STATE AND I MADE THE PRESENTATION FEBRUARY 24
BEFORE THE STATE, THEY CLEARLY TOLD ME WE DO NOT WANT THE
KIND OF WINDOWS THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT ON THE
SIDE.
CHRISTINE AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT -- WE WILL PUT IN
DUMMY WINDOWS.
YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO LOOK OUT.
YOU WILL SEE HISTORY OF JACKSON HOUSE IN THE WINDOWS THAT WE
MAY BE -- WHEN I SAID THAT BEFORE THE STATE, THEY SAID GO
BACK.
NO.
WE WANT THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS IF WE HAVE TO GO IN THERE AND
OVERRIDE YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
THIS IS A HISTORICAL PROJECT AND WE WANT THE HOUSE TO STAY
THAT WAY.
SO THE COST THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO INVEST IN ORDER TO USE THE
MATERIALS AND TO STILL MAINTAIN CODE ENFORCEMENT LITERALLY I
SAID TO SOME PEOPLE, THAT KIND OF COST WILL TRIPLE.
SO I WILL DO THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT AND IF THE CASH IS
RUNNING OUT GIVE IT TO ME DOUBLE WHAT WE ARE SAYING NOW.
10:34:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MA'AM, I -- I UNDERSTAND THE ITALIAN
CLUB THROUGH HISTORIC STUFF DID THE SAME THING AND WOUND UP
COSTING THEM ALMOST TWICE AND MUCH.
WE ARE JUST -- BALL PARK FIGURE.
GO AHEAD, I AM SORRY, DOCTOR.
10:34:38AM >> I WAS GOING TO SAY -- THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE BACK,
INDICATED HOW THAT LOOKS GREAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE STATE HAS OKAYED WITH US AND WE
TALKED.THE BACK PORTION OF THE HOUSE WAS ADDED ON BY
WILLIE'S FATHER.
IT WAS NOT PART OF THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION WHICH GIVES US
THE FEASIBILITY AND FLEXIBILITY IN ORDER TO DO SOMETHING
DIFFERENT IN THE BACK PART.
THAT IS WHY WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.
THE STATE WAS TELLING US YOU CAN DO THE RAMP, BUT MAKE SURE
IT DON'T TOUCH THE HOUSE.
10:35:05AM >> COULD I ADD ONE THING.
10:35:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, SIR.
10:35:09AM >> YOU PROBABLY ARE NOT GETTING A COST BECAUSE FRANKLY WE
HAVEN'T GONE DOWN THAT PATH.
AND THE OTHER UNDERLYING FACTOR IS THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT.
AND AS DR. COLLINS SAID.
WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS.
THE STATE HAS PUSHED BACK.
WE TALKED OF BUILDING A WALL TO MEET FIRE RATING FOR A ZERO
LOT LINE BUT TOTALLY DESTROYS THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF THE
BUILDING AND STARTS TO EFFECT GRANT MONEY.
SO THERE'S -- THERE IS DIFFERENT CONSTRAINTS.
IN AN IDEAL WORLD, WE HAVE OUR SPACE ON EITHER SIDE AND
BUILD IT PACK THE WAY IT IS.
10:35:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AM NOT TRYING TO GO DOWN A RABBIT HOLE OR
SET ANYTHING IN STONE.
I AM GOING SOMEWHERE WITH THIS.
10:35:50AM >> I JUST WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT PIECE THAT IS
DRIVING THE DECISION RIGHT NOW AS WELL TOO.
10:35:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THIS BUILDING NEEDS TO BE SAVED AND
RESTORED.
MISS TRAVIS.
10:36:00AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
HELLO.
10:36:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS.
THIS IS STILL PART OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
10:36:16AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YES, SIR.
10:36:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
BEFORE THE DOWNTOWN CRA SUNSETS AND LOSES
THE VALUE FOR THE CRA.
THIS PROJECT NEEDS TO BE FUNDED IN MY OPINION.
10:36:26AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YES.
10:36:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE ARE ASKING AS A BOARD FOR THE DOWNTOWN
CRA TO PUT 30% OF ITS MONEY INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AFTER THAT 30%, HOW MUCH MONEY IS LEFT IN THAT DOWNTOWN CRA?
TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE?
10:36:44AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
SURE.
I HAVE NOT DONE THAT 30% ALLOCATION YET BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN
DOING THE WORK I MENTIONED TO YOU.
AND THE DAYS ARE RUNNING TOGETHER.
ONE OF OUR MEETINGS.
10:36:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR BANK
ACCOUNT.
10:36:59AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
FOR FISCAL YEAR '23, ABOUT $23 MILLION TO
BE PROGRAMMED IN THE BUDGET.
10:37:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
30% WOULD BE $7 MILLION.
10:37:10AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YEP.
10:37:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LOOKING AT $14 MILLION THAT DOWNTOWN CRA
STILL HAS?
10:37:18AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I CAN'T CONFIRM THAT BECAUSE --
10:37:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SOMEONE OUT THERE SHAKING THEIR HEAD NO.
10:37:24AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
BECAUSE SEVERAL COMMITMENTS MADE.
AND YOU HAVE -- DEBT OBLIGATIONS, PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY
BEEN PROGRAMMED IN THE BUDGET.
AND SO -- SO --
10:37:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
EVEN WITH ALL THAT STUFF.
EVEN IF IT WAS HALF OF THAT ABOUT $7 MILLION.
10:37:40AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YOU -- YOU ARE ASKING FOR A -- IF YOU ARE
ASKING TO MEET THE 30% SET ASIDE WOULD BE $ MILLION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE DOWNTOWN CRA CAN MEET THAT 30%.
IT IS ASPIRATIONAL, BUT BASED ON THE COMMITMENTS AND
PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN -- THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE BY
THIS BOARD.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS LEFT YET.
I PLAN TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU IN NOVEMBER.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT -- THAT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WITH
YOUR BUDGET.
YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE ALLOCATIONS AT A DIFFERENT TIME.
IF YOU HAVE SET ASIDE MONEY.
IF YOU SET ASIDE THE $7 MILLION AS REQUESTED FOR THE -- FOR
THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY PIECE.
IF THAT MONEY IS SITTING THERE AND WE ARE DOING IT THROUGH
-- WE ARE INCENTIVIZING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
INSTEAD OF CASH, YOU CAN GO BACK AND REALLOCATE FOR
SOMETHING ELSE.
IN THIS IS STANCE, SOMEWHERE -- I AM WEARING MY
ARCHITECTURAL HAT RIGHT NOW, $4 MILLION IS NOT ENOUGH TO
REBUILD IT.
I CAN JUST GOING TO TELL YOU.
THE COST OF MATERIALS AS STATED RIGHT BEFORE US IS -- IT IS
GOING UP SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND IF YOU ARE DOING -- TO MAINTAIN THE HISTORICAL INTEGRITY
OF A BUILDING.
IT JUST COSTS MORE TO DO THAT.
AND SO IN BUDGETING -- IF YOU WANT TO SET ASIDE -- ONCE THIS
GOES UNDER CONSTRUCTION, YOU CAN PUT THAT -- YOU CAN STATE
YOUR INTENT, AND WE CAN REALLOCATE FUNDS, BUT WE NEED TO GO
AND LOOK AT THIS BASED ON COMMITMENTS.
IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE FOR ME TO STAND HERE AND SUGGEST
TO YOU TO CALL OFF A LINE ITEM RIGHT NOW WITHOUT LOOKING AT
THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT YOU HAVE COMMITTED TO AT A
PREVIOUS BUDGET.
SO IF YOU ALLOW ME SINCE MY -- IN MY ITEM NUMBER 12, I AM
COMING BACK TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT BUDGET.
AND I AM REQUESTING THAT THIS BOARD ALLOW ME TO COME BACK TO
YOU IN NOVEMBER WITH THOSE HOUSING ALLOCATIONS BECAUSE ALIS
HAS BEEN GOING TO ALL THE CRAS MAKING -- HAVING THOSE
CONVERSATIONS.
I CAN SEE WHAT MONEY IS AVAILABLE DOWNTOWN OUTSIDE OF THE
COMMITMENTS THAT CAN PRESUMABLY BE USED TO FURTHER SUPPORT
THE JACKSON HOUSE.
I DO KNOW THAT YOU GUYS MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO
NEGOTIATE OUR REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS.
I AM JUST TELLING YOU THAT BECAUSE HARD TO DO NEGOTIATIONS
ON REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS IN A PUBLIC FORUM.
BUT THE BOARD, IF I AM CORRECT, MADE A DECISION TO ALLOCATE
$1 MILLION TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
AND I WOULD -- I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR TO YOU GIVE ALIS AND
I THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND COME BACK AND
REPORT TO YOU BACK IN THE NOVEMBER MEETING.
AND I WILL ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT THE BUDGET TO YOUR
QUESTIONING, SIR, AND YOU CAN DIRECTLY OF HOW TO REALLOCATE
AT THAT POINT.
10:40:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS TRAVIS, AGAIN, YOU ARE A SUPERHERO.
I WASN'T TRYING TO PIN ANYTHING DOWN.
10:40:35AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I KNOW.
10:40:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
TO AN AMOUNT, BUT, AGAIN, THERE IS TALK OF
SUNSETTING CRAS.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE FUNDS, THAT WE CAN HAVE IT.
THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE ARE BRICKING IT UP NOW.
10:40:48AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
A GOOD POINT BECAUSE A CONVERSATION YOU HAD
THIS MORNING ABOUT WHERE THERE IS NO BLIGHT.
AND ONCE THIS -- THE WORK OF THE CRA IS DONE.
BUT IT PARTICULARLY IN DOWNTOWN, THERE ARE FINANCIAL
COMMITMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.
SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE EXPIRATION OF THE CRA, WHAT THOSE
FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS ARE, HOW MUCH IS LEFT OVER, AND WHAT
WORK IS LEFT TO BE DONE.
10:41:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MISS TRAVIS.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
10:41:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WELL -- THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
MISS TRAVIS, YOU TOOK A LOT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK AT
THE END, THE LAST SENTENCE.
SQUARE FOOT.
THAT MEANS SOMETHING THAT COSTS TODAY NOT DOWN THE ROAD WHAT
IT WILL BE.
THAT IS NUMBER ONE, THE CRA SAYS $20 MILLION IN THERE.
AND WOULD YOU IMAGINE THE ANTICIPATED REVENUE YEAR AFTER
YEAR.
I AM FORGETTING WHEN NRA WAS SUPPOSED TO END.
10:41:41AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
'43.
2043.
IT WAS EXTENDED.
10:41:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
'43.
I WILL STILL BE HERE AT 103.
10:41:51AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS
COUNCIL THEN
10:41:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LET ME GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
WHAT THE COST IS TODAY IS ONLY ON TODAY.
TOMORROW'S COST AND THE FUTURE COST IS MUCH DIFFERENT.
THEY MENTIONED THE WINDOWS.
ARE THE WINDOWS GOING TO BE WOOD, ALL THE WAY WOOD OR
OUTSIDE ALUMINIUM BECAUSE --
10:42:11AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WILL NOT BE ALUMINIUM.
I AM NOT EVEN ON THEIR PROJECT TEAM AND I AM TELLING YOU IT
WON'T BE ALUMINIUM.
[LAUGHTER]
10:42:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
GOT TO BE MAINTAINED -- WHAT YOU PUT THIS
IS GOING TO STAY THE WAY IT IS.
AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT SOMEONE DOWN THE ROAD WHEN THERE MAY
NOT BE A CRA AND THE WINDOW AND OTHER THINGS THAT YOU PUT ON
TODAY WILL COST AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY TO PUT I AM USE
THIS BUILDING AS AN EXAMPLE.
THINGS YOU WILL FACE NOT ONLY TODAY BUT 20 YEARS FROM NOW
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT WHEN THERE IS NO CRA.
THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS I WANTED TO ASK AND YOU HAVE TO BE
COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT TIMES HAVE CHANGED.
AND PRICES CHANGE.
AND PEOPLE CHANGE.
AND OPERATIONAL MONIES CHANGE.
YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHAT WE PLAN FOR.
SOMETHING THAT HAS GOT TO BE STABLE AND LASTS FOR A LONG,
LONG TIME.
THANK YOU.
10:43:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:43:14AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ARE THERE ANY MORE PRESENTATIONS OR IS THAT
IS IT?
10:43:19AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I THINK THAT IS IT FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:43:21AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TO WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID, I REMEMBER
THE LAST PRESENTATION WE HAD ON ALL THE PROJECTS GOING
THROUGH.
YOU KNOW ONE IS -- THERE WAS A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT TO A BIG
DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, AND I THINK THAT IS REDUCING OR GOING
TO SUNSET AT SOME POINT SOON.
AS THAT TAPER ITS OFF, $5 MILLION TO $10 MILLION.
AND WE HAVE ADDED IN SEVERAL ARTS ORGANIZATIONS AND HISTORIC
ORGANIZATIONS.
AND NOT ALL OF THOSE TO MY COLLEAGUES -- NOT ALL OF THEM ARE
NAMED AND SOME ARE SENSITIVE PAUSE OF LEGAL ISSUES
ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
I URGE YOU IF YOU HAVEN'T TALKED TO NICOLE PRIVATELY OF ALL
THE DIFFERENT LINE ATERMING THAT ARE THERE.
AND TO -- AND TO -- TO BOARD MEMBER VIERA AND BOARD MEMBER
CITRO'S POINTS, I THINK THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF PROJECT
THAT A CRA SHOULD FUND.
AND BEFORE WE SUNSET AND PUT SOME KIND OF CAP ON THE
DOWNTOWN CRA, ABSOLUTELY WE SHOULD TO THAT.
MY ORIGINAL THOUGHT TEN YEARS AGO WAS THAT WE SHOULD REBUILD
SOME OF THE IMPORTANT BUILDINGS THAT WERE IN CENTRAL AVENUE.
TALKED TO CHLOE CONEY AND.THEIR FAMILIES' BUILDINGS.
BUT NOW IT IS NOT POSSIBLE WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE
PROPERTY AROUND, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE RETAIN THE
HISTORY OF CENTRAL AVENUE IN ADDITION TO THE JACKSON HOUSE.
LAST THING I WILL SAY.
IS DR. COLLINS STILL HERE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET UP.
BUT JUST TO LET'S YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS -- WHEN LINDA
SAUL-SENA AND I WERE PARTNERING WITH WILLIE TEN YEARS AGO,
HE LET A FRIEND OF MINE, AMY MARTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE EVER MET HER.
SHE IS IN ARCHITECTURE AND A FINE ARTS PHOTOGRAPHER.
HE LET HER WALK IN AT THE TIME.
USF -- SHE WALKED IN AT THAT TIME AND I DON'T THINK WILLIE
WALKED IN WITH HER.
BUT ANYWAY, HE KINDS OF TOLD HER -- SHE WENT IN AND
DOCUMENTED THE WHOLE THING.
IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN HER PICTURES, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND WE
WILL GET THEM TO YOU.
I WILL CONNECT YOU TO HER.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS WE NOW HAVE IN OUR CITY COUNCIL
HALLWAY ONE OF THE PICTURES THAT AMY TOOK.
AND I THINK WILLIE TOLD HER ABOUT IT.
THAT'S HOW SHE KNEW ABOUT IT.
I THINK IT WAS THREE HAND PRINTS ON THE WALL.
WILLIE AS A CHILD AND HIS PARENTS.
SHE TOOK A PHOTOGRAPH OF THAT AND CREATED AN ABSTRACT BIG
PHOTO.
AND THAT PHOTO IS JUST INSIDE THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER
DOORS.
IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT OR ANYBODY IN WILLIE'S FAMILY HAVEN'T
SEEN.
MAKE SURE YOU ALL SEE THAT.
BUT WE HAVE -- WE ALL HAVE A LOVE FOR THE BUILDING AND THE
HISTORY OF TAMPA AND THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY OF TAMPA.
AND WE WANT TO HELP YOU AND PARTNER WITH YOU.
10:46:16AM >> MAY I, JUST TWO POINTS.
A COMMENT AND I AGREE WHAT IT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.
THAT IS WHY WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION
IN THE RECONSTRUCTION NOW SO WE WILL GO BACK AND GET
REOCCURRING HISTORICAL GRANTS AND THAT IS IT WHAT THE STATE
ESSENTIAL URGE ASKING US TO DO.
THAT IS WHY THAT IS IMPORTANT.
THAT HAND PRINT ON ONE WALL WAS WILLIE'S GRANDFATHER.
HE ACTUALLY PLASTERED IT AND PUT HIS HANDS THERE AS A
DESIGN.
YEARS LATER WILLIE'S FATHER DID THE OTHER WALL AND WANTED TO
MATCH WHAT WILLIE'S GRANDFATHER AND HE HAND PRINT THIS.
AND WILLIE DID IN ON BOTH WALLS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:46:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO DO WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS REGARDING THIS?
DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION?
10:47:05AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK IT IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.
AND WE ASKED FOR A MONTHLY UPDATE ON THIS, RIGHT.
PLEASE DR. COLLINS AND EVERYONE ELSE KEEP US POSTED ON WHAT
YOU THINK WE SHOULD TO DO HELP.
10:47:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
10:47:18AM >> THANK YOU.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS AN UPDATE FROM THE TAMPA
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
MAJOR DeFELICE WILL BE PROVIDING THAT STAFF REPORT.
10:47:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:47:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOOD MORNING.
10:47:39AM >> MAJOR ERIC DeFELICE, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, DISTRICT
3.
TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE FROM THE LAST MEETING YOU REQUESTED.
WE ARE DISCUSSING HOW THE CRA AND TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT
ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO COMBAT VIOLENT CRIME IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
SO WE HAVE CONTINUED CREATING PARTNERSHIPS WITHIN THE EAST
TAMPA COMMUNITY THAT WILL ASSIST WITH THE REDUCTION OF
VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
PARTICIPATING IN THE YOUNG VOICES, YOUNG CHOICES PROGRAM
CREATED BY THE TAMPA BAY CENTER FOR COMMUNITY TRANSFORMATION
HOSTED BY PASTOR WALKER AS ONE OF THOSE INITIATIVES.
AND IN ITS INFANCY.
BRINGING FORWARD A PROGRAM THAT IS INVOLVED IN TAKING YOUTH
FROM EAST TAMPA AREA AND PUTTING THEM IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT.
GETTING SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS, SOME CLERGY, AS WELL AS
POLICE OFFICERS TO SIT DOWN, HAVE JUST A DISCUSSION ON HOW
YOUTH VIEW THE STATE OF AFFAIRS, THE VIOLENCE IN THEIR
COMMUNITY.
WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER, AND JUST SET THE COURSE AND GIVE THEM
A VOICE.
THAT PROGRAM IS IN THE INFANCY, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT DATES
AND SUCH TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL VERY MUCH LIKE TO BE A
PART OF.
TODAY, OUR OFFICERS HAVE REMOVED 501 GUN FROM DISTRICT 3,
WITH I IS UP APPROXIMATELY 85 GUNS FROM THE SAME TIME PERIOD
LAST YEAR.
THAT IS SIGNIFICANT.
TAMPA SHOWS THE COMMITMENT THAT WE HAVE TO ERADICATING
VIOLENT CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITY.
OUR OFFICERS ARE WELL AWARE OF THE VIOLENCE AND THE CRIMES
THAT ARE COMMITTED, NOT ONLY WITH THE GUNS BUT THE CRIMES
LEADING UP TO GUNS.
OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN ON CRIME IN GENERAL.
WE TAKE SOMETHING LIKE AN AUTO BURGLARY WHERE THESE GUNS ARE
COMING FROM AND IF WE MAINLY FOCUS ON GUNS AND VIOLENT
CRIME, WE ARE MISSING A BIG PART OF THIS PICTURE.
CRIME IN GENERAL, A LOT OF THESE GUNS ARE TAKEN FROM
UNLOCKED AUTO BURGLARIES AND FOCUSED ON THAT TOO.
BY HAVING THAT APPROACH, THAT HOLISTIC APPROACH, WE ARE
SEEING A GREATER NUMBER OF GUNS TAKEN OFF THE STREET AND
GOOD TO REDUCE THE VIOLENT CRIME IN THE COMMUNITY.
OUR STAY AND PLAY PROGRAM HAS ENDED SINCE SCHOOL IS NOW BACK
IN SESSION.
BUT THE FEEDBACK WAS FREIGHT.
IT WAS POSITIVE.
ATTENDANCE RATES WERE HIGH.
AND CONTINUOUS INTERACTION BETWEEN THE OFFICERS AND THE
PARTICIPANTS WAS GREAT AND STRENGTHENS THAT BOND BETWEEN THE
YOUTH AND OUR OFFICERS.
WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
OUR STRATEGIC ENFORCEMENT ORSE UNITS.
AND PLANS ARE IN PLACE FOR TRUNK OR TREAT EVENT THAT WE ARE
PUTTING ON WHICH IS A GREAT.
A GREAT IDEA AND HAS A SAFE LOCATION FOR CHILDREN TO ENJOY
THE HALLOWEEN HOLIDAY.
OFFICERS PARTICIPATING AS WELL.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITIES.
OFFICERS WILL BE ABLE TO DECORATE THEIR TRUNKS AND HAND OUT
CANDY TO A LARGE NUMBER OF CHILDREN AND PROVIDE THAT SAFE
PLACE, THAT SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE KIDS.
AND THIS EVENT IS BEING CORDINATED BY OUR SC UNITS.
WE ARE ALSO INVOLVED IN HOSTING A THANKSGIVING CELEBRATION
AT OUR DISTRICT 3 STATION.
THIS EVENT IS PUT ON AND COORDINATED BY MISS TONYA LEWIS WHO
WAS HONORED HERE A FEW DAYS AGO.
SHE PARTICIPANTER INS WITH US, AGAIN, TO CREATE THAT BOND IN
OUR COMMUNITY.
HELD AT OUR DISTRICT LOCATION.
LAST YEAR SERVED 500 TO 600 PEOPLE, NOT ONLY POLICE OFFICERS
BUT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
A GREAT PROGRAM AND A GREAT PROGRAM AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
MAKE THAT AN ANNUAL EVENT.
DETECTIVE CURTIS WILLIAMS, HE ALSO RECEIVED AN AWARD FOR HIS
ACTIONS.
HE CONTINUES TO BE A HUGE ASSET COMBATING QUALITY OF LIFE
ISSUES.
EFFORTS HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT OF REDUCING VIOLENT CRIME IN
EAST TAMPA.
AS WE STATED OR AS I STATED BEFORE ADDRESSING ALL CRIME THAT
LEADS TO VIOLENT CRIME.
HE DOES THAT.
HE ADDRESSES SLUM AND BRIGHT MAKING SURE THAT PROBLEM AREAS
ARE ADDRESSED OR HANDLED.
THE BOARD.
THE TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF AND ADDRESS THAT ARE VACANT LOTS
ARE BEING ADDRESSED SO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY
CALL IN KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A VOICE FOR THESE
QUALITY-OF-LIFE ISSUES AND SOMEBODY WILL GO OUT THERE AND
TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
HE DOES A GREAT JOB AND HE IS A GREAT ASSET AND HELPS --
MAYBE NOT SO MUCH DIRECTLY WITH THE VIOLENT CRIME, BUT ALL
THE ANCILLARY CRIMES THAT WOULD LEAD TO IT.
HE IS WONDERFUL.
THE DEPARTMENT IS STILL WORK WITH OUR FEDERAL DEPARTMENTS
CREATING WORKFORCE SYNERGY TO ENGAGE VIOLENT CRIME IN THE
COMMUNITY.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE ARE TAKING CASES FEDERAL WITH OUR
PARTNERS.
WE ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO ENHANCE CRIMES FOR THOSE
RECIDIVISTS.
WHAT WE SEE IS A FALSE SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION WHO IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR A VERY LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE CRIME.
WE ARE LOOKING FOR ANY OR ALL ALTERNATIVES TO NOT ONLY HOLD
THOSE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE, GET APPROPRIATE SENTENCES.
ON THE FLIPSIDE, IF OUR DIVERSIONARY PROGRAMS ARE
APPROPRIATE, WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT TOO.
RECENTLY WE HAD A CASE WHERE JUVENILES WERE INVOLVED AND
MULTIPLE JUVENILE OFFENDER.
ONE JUVENILE OFFENDER SCORED OUTS BECAUSE OF THE CRIMES HE
WAS INVOLVED IN THE PAST.
HE WAS TRANSPORTED TO WT EDWARDS IN SECURED DETENTION.
ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE HE WAS RELATIVELY NEW AND DIDN'T HAVE A
HISTORY WAS OFFERED OUR DIVERSIONARY PROGRAM.
GOES ON TO SHOW THAT YOU WE ARE NOT JUST HEAVY HANDED ON OUR
APPROACH.
WE ARE LENIENT WHEN DICTATED OR WHEN THE NECESSITY IS THERE.
MOVING ON TO YBOR.
CAPTAIN THEO AND I PARTICIPATED IN REGULAR STAKEHOLDER
MEETINGS TO ADDRESS CONCERNS AND CURRENT CONDITIONS.
CAPTAIN THEO HAS BEEN WONDERFUL MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE
STAKEHOLDERS IN THAT AREA AND WE ARE HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS
OF THOSE MEETINGS.
THEY INVOLVE MANY PEOPLE, THE PLAYERS, AND ALLOW US TO TALK
ABOUT WHAT IS WORKING WITH WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN THE FUTURE
AND SET AND MANAGE EXPECTATIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
THE COLLABORATION IN THESE MEETINGS IS GREAT.
IT FOSTERS TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNICATION WHICH IS KEY TO
HAVE SUCCESS IN THAT AREA.
OUR YBOR LIAISON POSITION.
WE REINSTITUTED THAT.
OFFICER BRYE BRANDON GAIN, HIS NAME WAS BROUGHT UP AS AN
OFFICER THAT TOOK A VESTED INTEREST IN THE AREA.
EVERYONE THAT WE SPOKE HOW THAT BRANDON OR RICHIE MACADO AND
OBTAINED BRANDON TO PUT HIM IN THE POSITION AND SO FAR HE IS
DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
AMAZE WHAT ONE PERSON COMMITTED TO THE CAUSE CAN DO IN THAT
AREA.
WE ARE SEEING GREAT RESULTS.
HE IS BENEFICIAL TO OUR MISSION AND PROVED TO BE A VALUABLE
ASSET EVERY DAY TO OUR YBOR AREA.
IN ADDITION, THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM IS COMING ONLINE.
WE READ ABOUT IT AND SEE IT.
THEY HAVE THAT AMBASSADOR PROGRAM AND I SAW IT,
UNFORTUNATELY, WORK RIGHT IN FRONT.
ME HANDLE THE SITUATION WITHOUT POLICE INVOLVEMENT.
AND QUIETED DOWN THE SITUATION AND GOT IT MO MOVE ON AND
EXACTLY WHAT TO EXPECT HERE.
LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THAT COMING ONLINE.
THE CCDC PROGRAM HAS RESUMED.
PUT MORE OFFICERS IN OUR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT TO DEAL WITH
THE PROBLEMS WE ARE HAVING.
THE YBOR CAMERA PROJECT IS MOVING ALONG.
CAMERAS TO BE ADDED TO THE SYSTEM TO BOLSTER THAT.
WE ARE UPDATING THE CAMERAS BECAUSE OUR DEPARTMENT, THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE PUT IT IN, HAVE IDENTIFIED AN ISSUE OF THE
CAMERA AND THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE COMPATIBLE WITH
THE WIRELESS SYSTEM IN THE FUTURE WILL REDUCE COST AND
PREVENT ISSUES OF TAKING THEM DOWN AND PUTTING THEM UP
LATER.
JUGGLING THE PROJECT WITH THE LIGHTING ARCHWAY PROJECTS
SCHEDULED TO COMMENCE IN NOVEMBER.
WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT TO PUT UP CAMERASES THAT MAY OR MAY
NOT ARE PUT UP BY THE ARCHWAY PROJECT IN THE FUTURE.
WORKING HAND IN HAND TO MAKE THAT PROJECT A SUCCESS.
FINALLY RECENTLY CONTACTED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
OR THE CITY OF ORLANDO POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND THEY REACHED OUT BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY HEARD WE WERE
DOING GREAT THINGS IN OUR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT,
SPECIFICALLY THE YBOR AREA.
WE NOW HAVE A MEETING -- RIGHT NOW A VIRTUAL MEETING WITH
MEMBERS OF THEIR COMMUNITY AND STAFF, THE MAYORAL STAFF, TO
DISCUSS THE POLICIES, PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED
IN YBOR TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT A SAFER ENVIRONMENT.
AND WHAT WE WILL DO IS EXCHANGE INFORMATION AND FOSTER A
PEER REVIEW WHERE THEY CAN COME AND SEE IT.
YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT ALL DAY AND I CAN EXPLAIN IT..BUT YOU
ARE OUT THERE AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING AND YOU SEE HOW WE
CLEAR THE STREETS IN A MATTER OF MINUTES.
FROM HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE TO STRAGGLERS, QUITE IMPRESSIVE.
WE ARE HOPING THAT THEY WILL TAKE THE TIME TO COME HERE AND
WE CAN GO THERE TO LEARN THEIR BEST PRACTICES AS WELL.
THAT IS THE UPDATE I HAVE FOR YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS?
10:57:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:57:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SINCE YOU MENTIONED ORLANDO, I WAS THERE A
COUPLE OF WEEKENDS AGO.
WHAT THEY HAVE DONE WITH THEIR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS.
A GREAT CIGAR BAR.
THEY HAVE BLOCKED IT OFF BECAUSE THEY HAD SEVERAL SHOOTINGS
IN THAT MAIN STRIP.
SEVEN, EIGHT PEOPLE SHOT, YOU KNOW.
THEY PUT UP METAL DETECTORS.
AND YOU -- THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN COME THROUGH THERE IS TO BE
SCREENED AND CHECKED.
AND MOST OF THE BARS HAVE THEM THERE.
HAS GOT TO BE KIND OF EXPENSIVE, BUT SINCE YOU MENTIONED
THAT, I KIND OF WANTED TO TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE DOING OVER
THERE.
AS IT RELATES TO YBOR.
I FREQUENT IT A LOT.
THAT IS MY DISTRICT.
I AT THAT YOU CAN TO THE OWNERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE IS AN UPTICK BECAUSE STUDENTS HAVE RETURNED --
RETURNED TO SCHOOL.
A LOT -- ALWAYS A LOT OF UNDERAGED DRINKING IN YBOR.
I THINK WE NEED SOMEBODY TO COVER PEOPLE WHO GO IN THERE AND
PUT TO A HALT OF A LITTLE BIT OF IT.
I HAVE SEEN YOUNG KIDS THERE SINCE SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN BACK
THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKENDS.
10:58:09AM >> SO WE HAVE -- WE DID THAT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER.
I SEE THE NEED OF IT NOW SINCE THE KIDS ARE BACK TO SCHOOL
THAT WE WORKED WITH.
THE TOBACCO -- OR ATF -- THEY PUT UNDERCOVERS IN TO
MAKE SURE NO UNDERAGED DRINKERS.
SOMETHING WE DO AND TO KEEP THEM HONEST.
10:58:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SOME OF THE BAR OWNERS ASKED ME ABOUT THAT.
I GUESS THE BIGGEST PART IS THE EAST -- THE MIDDLE PORTION.
YOU MENTION A LOT OF PROGRAMS.
I LIKE PROGRAMS.
BUT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS I SEE AREN'T HITTING THE TARGET
PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO HIT.
I GO TO A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS, I SEE A LOT OF OUR SMALLER
KIDS.
THAT IS GREAT AND WE WANT TO EDUCATE THE SMALLER KIDS, BUT
THE KIDS WE NEED TO BE TOUCHING ARE THE ONE THAT ARE DOING
THINGS AND GETTING READY TO DO THINGS.
AND WE ARE NOT TOUCHING THOSE.
FREDDIE IS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AND I SAY THE SAME THING
WHEN I GO TO SOME OF THESE MEETINGS.
I SEE KIDS -- WHY IS THAT KID HERE?
I NEED PROGRAMS THAT WILL TARGET THOSE ARE RIGHT IN THE FIRE
RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THAT IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING.
WE GOT TO FIND SOME MONEY TO HAVE SOME -- TO GET PEOPLE OFF
OUR THE STREET.
I KNOW THE CONGREGATION OF LAKE AVENUE AND 29th.
IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.
I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN HAVE MISS TRAVIS AND THE CAC LOOK AT
SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES TO START REDEVELOPING THAT.
THAT WILL BE A KEY TO THAT.
BUT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I GET.
I SEE MISS TATE IS HERE AND OTHERS.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE HAVE IS THE LOITERING ON LAKE AVENUE.
JUST BEHOOVES ME THAT WE HAVE A HOUSING AUTHORITY -- I DON'T
KNOW THE COOPERATION YOU ARE GETTING OR NOT, BUT TO HAVE A
HOUSING AUTHORITY.
I HAVE PEOPLE OUT ACTUALLY GAMBLING RIGHT THERE ON THE
PROPERTY ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY ON LAKE AVENUE IN FRONT OF
THE POLICE STATION.
THAT JUST BOTHERS ME.
JUST BOTHERS ME.
THE CONSTITUENT SEE THAT AND KING STREET FOR YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COMBAT THAT, NUISANCE ABATEMENT.
WE HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND HOLD SOME OF THESE PEOPLE
ACCOUNTABLE WHAT THEY ARE ALLOWING ON THEIR PROPERTIES.
I HOPE WE CAN STEP THAT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE THAT
THE MAJOR PART OF COMPLAINTS THE AREAS WITH PEOPLE JUST
HANGING OUT.
I KNOW WE HAVE THE OTHER KINGS HOUSE RIGHT ACROSS, AND THE
LIQUOR STORE.
A PRIVATE PROPERTY AS WELL, BUT THE MULTITUDE OF PEOPLE THAT
ARE OUT THERE.
THE RESIDENTS -- THEY ARE STARTING TO WAKE UP NOW.
CRIME WATCHES IN THE AREA NOW.
WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE AND NOW THEY ARE SAYING, WHAT ARE WE
GOING TO DO.
YOU BEING THE NEW GUY, I HOPE YOU FIND A NEW STRATEGY.
SOMETIMES OTHER PEOPLE HAVE A DIFFERENT STRATEGY.
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT STRATEGY TO HELP SOME OF
THAT.
BUT I WANT TO FIND A PROGRAM THAT WE CAN TOUCH THE HOT KIDS.
THAT IS WHAT I NEED THE HOT KIDS.
AND THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM, I HAVE SEEN IT IN MIAMI AND
OTHER PLACES.
THAT COULD WORK, BUT YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME AMBASSADORS --
WHAT I CALL THE DIRTY, DIRTY, TALK THAT LONG TO HELP THAT.
A PROGRAM GEARED TO GET THOSE GUYS.
BECAUSE WHAT I CAN SAY TO THEM -- MAYBE IMPACT MAYBE SOMEONE
ELSE SAY HE DON'T KNOW MY STRUGGLE OR PLIGHT.
TO HAVE THOSE GUYS THAT CAN DEAL WITH THOSE YOUNG MEN AND
SOME WOMEN TOO.
THAT IS WHAT I AM HOPING TO SEE IN THE FUTURE, THOSE TYPE OF
PROGRAMS.
AND US FINDING SOME OF THIS MONEY OR SOME OF MONEY WE GET
FROM COMPLICATED STUFF TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND FIND
THOSE U-HAULS COMING IN SELLING THESE GUNS.
BECAUSE THERE -- THAT IS TRUE.
HOPEFULLY YOU WILL LOOK AT SOME STRATEGIES.
THANK YOU.
11:02:01AM >> SO THE -- IF I MAY.
THE PROGRAM I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IS A PROGRAM THAT IS
ADDRESSING JUST THAT.
BECAUSE THE TARGET AUDIENCE FROM 14 TO 24.
TYPICALLY WE SEE IT STOP AT 18 YEARS OLD WHEN SOMEBODY IS AN
ADULT.
AND THE AMBASSADORS THEY ARE USING FOR THIS PROGRAM ARE FROM
THE CITY.
MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH IT.
THAT LIVE THERE.
THAT KNOW.
PARTICULARLY, WE ARE WORKING ON AN AREA PROBABLY BELMONT
HEIGHTS TO GET A VESTED INTEREST IN THAT AREA AND HAVE
PEOPLE AND MEMBERS FROM BELMONT HEIGHT AS WELL AS STUDENTS
THAT ARE IDENTIFIED FROM THESE AMBASSADORS THAT ARE HAND
SELECTED FROM THE COMMUNITY TO -- NOT THE KIDS THAT ARE
ALREADY DOING WELL, BUT THE KIDS WHO MIGHT BE IFFY OR THEIR
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE POLICE MIGHT NOT BE WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
SOME THAT PROGRAM SPOKES TO WHAT YOU ARE -- SPEAKS TO WHAT
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT GREAT.
AND WE ARE HOPING THAT KNEES FIRST TWO CLASSES OR PROGRAMS
THAT THIS WILL CATAPULT US FORWARD AND GO THROUGH IT AND
MAKE CHANGES TO THIS AND THIS IS A SUCCESSFUL ENDEAVOR.
BUT IN REGARDS TO LAKE AVENUE, I THINK THAT BEING THE NEW
GUY, YES, I WAS THERE AS A LIEUTENANT.
AND I THINK THAT THE BIGGEST THING WE NEED IS THE COMMUNITY
SUPPORT.
BECAUSE I HEAR WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT THE LOITERING AND HOW BAD
IT LOOKS.
I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN THERE AND RUN THE PEOPLE OFF.
I HAD A CONVERSATION.
WHY DO YOU HAVE TO SIT HERE.
WHY CAN'T YOU GO THERE.
IT IS WELL -- I GET ALL KIND OF REASONS.
AND WE KEEP DOING THE SAME THING.
GROUNDHOG DAY AND DO IT OVER AND OVER.
WE DO THAT THAT SAME COMMUNITY WILL NOT SUPPORT US IN THE
CAUSE THAT WE HAVE.
COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
KNOWING THAT WE ARE THERE NOT BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO BE
OVERBEARING, BUT BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING US TO BE
THERE FOR THEM.
YOU KNOW, THAT SUPPORT WILL BE GREAT.
IF WE CAN GARNER THAT SUPPORT WILL HELP US IN THE MISSION.
11:03:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THEY HEAR YOU.
THEY ARE HERE.
THREE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN THAT AREA WHO ARE STRONG
AND VOCAL ABOUT IT.
MEET WITH THEM AND GETTING THEIR FOLKS OUT THERE.
THAT WAY THEY GOT YOUR BACK.
I THINK THAT WILL TAKE A LOT OF STRAIN YOU.
WE DON'T WANT -- BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO
DO SOMETIMES TO ERADICATE A PROBLEM.
AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE SOUTH SIDE THE STREET ON LAKE, THAT
AIN'T NOBODY'S PROPERTY.
THEY JUST HANG OUT THERE.
I JUST LOOK -- I SUPPORT IT AND I AM ALWAYS VOCAL ABOUT
THAT.
YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT BLACK OR WHATEVER -- I CARE OF CLEANING
THAT AREA UP SO THE RESIDENTS CAN BE SAFE BECAUSE THEY ARE
COMPLAINING.
THEY WOKEN -- THEY ARE WOKEN AND COMPLAINING NOW.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO.
YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT ON THAT.
11:04:40AM >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
11:04:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:04:43AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THREE QUICK QUESTIONS.
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT IN
YBOR ARE PEOPLE HANGING OUT IN PARKING LOTS.
AND I THINK YOU MAYBE ANSWERED THIS BEFORE, BUT COULD YOU
JUST CONFIRM.
YOU ALL ARE SHUTTING THEM DOWN AT 3:00 OR SHOOING PEOPLE ON.
11:05:04AM >> AT 3 A.M. WHEN WE CONDUCT OUR SWEEP, WE DIRECT THE
TRAFFIC TO ONE DIRECTION AND USUALLY TOWARD 15th AND WE SEE
A INFLUX OF PEOPLE GOING ON 15TH, 7th, 8th AND 5th.
YES, WE HAVE OUR OFFICERS THERE AND THEY WILL BE IN THE
PARKING LOT WITH THEIR LIGHTS ON SO YOU SEE THE VISIBILITY
VEHICLE THERE HAVE AS WELL AS A LARGE NUMBER OF OFFICERS.
WE MOVE THEM WHEN WE SHIFT DOWN WITH THE PEOPLE.
WE TAKE THOSE OFFICERS THAT ARE ON 7th AVENUE AND FLOW WITH
THEM ON TO THE PARKING LOT AREAS AND GET CLEARED OUT QUICKLY
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE CONGREGATING AND LOUD MUSIC, ETC.
11:05:39AM >>BILL CARLSON:
AND HONEST QUESTION -- WHAT IS THIS CALLED.
SHOT STOPPER.
11:05:44AM >> SHOT SPOTTER.
11:05:49AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE PAY $250,000 A YEAR FOR IT.
HAVE YOU SEEN -- I KNOW YOU ARE JUST TALKING OF TWO AREAS OF
THE CITY, BUT HAVE YOU SEEN SPECIFIC CRIMES THAT WERE
PREVENTED OR SOLVED BECAUSE OF THAT?
AND OR DO YOU THINK WE CAN APPLY THAT $250,000 IN A
DIFFERENT WAY LIKE HIRING TWO OR THREE MORE OFFICERS OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:06:11AM >> MY BELIEF THAT THIS PROGRAM IS BENEFICIAL, BECAUSE THE
VAST MAJORITY OF THE SHOTS THAT GO ON ARE UNREPORTED.
SOMETHING RIDICULOUS LIKE 80% OF THESE CALLS ARE UNREPORTED.
IF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE EXPERIENCING THIS
VIOLENCE DO NOT REPORT THE CRIME, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT
IT BEFORE WE HAVE THIS SYSTEM.
NOW THAT WE HAVE THE SYSTEM, ALLOW FOR BETTER RESPONSE
TIMES.
BETTER RECOVERY OF EVIDENCE ON SCENE THAT CAN LEAD TO
HELPING TO SOLVE CRIMES THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PERPETRATED.
MAYBE A MURDER OR SOMETHING WASN'T DONE THERE --
11:06:45AM >>BILL CARLSON:
DO YOU KNOW OF ANY -- SORRY TO PUT YOU ON
THE SPOT.
SPECIFIC CRIMES THAT HAVE BEEN PREVENTED OR SOLVED BECAUSE
OF THAT.
11:06:54AM >> YES.
I HAVE STATS RIGHTS HERE.
NOTABLE CASES I CAN PROVIDE IT TO YOU.
11:06:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAYBE E-MAIL IT TO ALL OF US.
AND LAST QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN TO DO SUPPORT
YOU AND YOUR TEAM?
FOR EXAMPLE, PARKING LOTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS POSSIBLE, BUT IF WE PUT A CURFEW ON
PARKING LOTS IN YBOR.
IS THERE ANYTHING -- I THREW THAT OUT AS AN EXAMPLE.
ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO AS CITY COUNCIL OR CRA TO SUPPORT
YOU?
11:07:22AM >> I THINK AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE OF SOMETHING OF THE FACT
THERE HAS TO BE A PARKING LOT ATTENDANT AT A PRIVATE LOT.
WE AT THE CITY WE HAVE -- I DON'T KNOW, LIKE NINE SECURITY
OFFICERS THAT PATROL OURS.
I AM NOT SURE IF WE ARE SEEING THAT SAME LEVEL OF SECURITY
FROM THE PRIVATE LOTS.
THAT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE FACED.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IF YOU ARE GOING TO REVISIT THAT, WE
COULD TALK ABOUT THAT OR DISCUSS IT THAT SOMEBODY WOULD BE
THERE AND VISIBLE ON THE PROPERTY ARIZONA A DETERRENT
BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT GOES ON.
PEOPLE LEAVE THE CLUB EARLY.
HANGING IN THE PARKING LOT.
SMOKING MARIJUANA.
DRINKING IN THEIR VEHICLES.
PLAYING LOUD MUSIC BECAUSE A BARREN LANDS WITH EMPTY CARS.
HAVING A VISIBLE DETERRENT, EVEN IF IT WAS A SECURITY GUARD.
AND THERE ARE OPTIONS THAT WE CAN DISCUSS -- WOULD BE GREAT
TO HELP US IN THE CRIME FIGHT.
11:08:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF YOU HAVE IDEAS, LET US KNOW CITY THING A
CITY COUNCIL, WE WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT YOU.
MULTIPLE EFFORTS TO TURN YBOR BACK INTO A COMMUNITY AND
PEOPLE WILL ONLY DO THAT IF THEY FEEL SAFE.
11:08:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
11:08:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THAT UP.
EVEN BACK WHEN I WAS ON THE -- EAST TAMPA CAC, THERE WAS
ALWAYS TALK OF THAT.
MOST OF THESE PARKING LOT ATTEND DANTS.
ONCE THE PARKING LOT GETS FULL, THEY ARE GONE.
AND I THINK OUR CITY NEEDS TO ENFORCE THAT RULE THAT A
PARKING LOT ATTENDANT MUST BE THERE THE WHOLE TIME.
ALSO DURING MY TIMES ON THE YBOR CITY CAC, WHAT TIME IS
SHIFT CHANGE FOR TPD AT NIGHT?
OR EARLY MORNING?
11:09:05AM >> WE HAVE MULTIPLE.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE DAY.
11:09:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
EVEN THOUGH THE BARS CLOSE AT 3:00, THERE
ARE THOSE WORKERS.
AND A LOT OF THEM HAPPEN TO BE FEMALE WALKING TO THEIR CAR.
AND I AM HOPING THAT THE AMOUNT OF POLICE OFFICERS DOWN IN
YBOR CITY DOESN'T DECREASE SO THAT THOSE EMPLOYEES CAN FEEL
SAFE WALKING TO THEIR CARS.
11:09:25AM >> THERE ARE -- THE SHIFT THAT WOULD HANDLE THAT LEAVES
BETWEEN 3:30 AND 4:00 IN THE MORNING.
SO TYPICALLY BY THAT TIME, IT IS REALLY CLEARED OUT IN YBOR
CITY BUT THOSE WORKERS DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THE AMOUNT OF
OFFICERS WILL DECREASE BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE WOULD GO HOME.
BUT THE PEOPLE LEFT IN YBOR CITY IS VIRTUALLY NOTHING AT
THOSE SHOWERS.
BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE -- WE HAVE OUR MIDNIGHT SHIFT UNITS
THAT DON'T GET OFF UNTIL 7:00 IN THE MORNING AND ZONE UNITS
-- POSSIBLY TWO ZONE UNITS ASSIGNED TO THAT AREA THAT WILL
BE THERE IF NEEDED.
I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY INSTANCES.
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY REVISIT TO MAKE SURE
THOSE WORKERS ARE TAKEN CARE OF WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO AND
FROM.
11:10:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
11:10:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:10:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR THE
FINE WORK YOU ARE DOING AND THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT IS DOING.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
THE 501 GUNS THAT WERE BROUGHT IN THROUGH YOUR EFFORTS, A
LARGE AMOUNT AND MORE THAN LIKELY 5,000 NOR THAT CAN BE
GIVEN AT ANY GIVEN PLACE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
ALONG THOSE LINES WHEN YOU SEE A YOUNG KID THREE YEARS OLD
WITH A GUN IN HIS HANDS SHOOTING A FIVE-YEAR-OLD FAMILY
MEMBER -- A THREE-YEAR-OLD DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING AND
LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT THE GUN WAS EVIDENTLY LEFT
SOMEWHERE REAL LOW LOADED FOR A THREE-YEAR-OLD TO CARRY A
GUN AND SHOOT THE GUN, IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE UNLES
SOMEBODY JUST LEFT IT THERE.
11:10:51AM >> YES, SIR.
11:10:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AT A VERY LOW -- NOT HIGH -- WHERE A
THREE-YEAR-OLD COULDN'T REACH IT.
HAVE WE EVER DONE -- I AM SURE YOU HAVE.
BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY STATISTICS WHY PEOPLE SHOOT PEOPLE
WITHOUT KNOWING WHO THEY ARE.
AND NOTHING -- NO MODUS OF OPERATION OF WHAT THE THOUGHT
PROCESS ARE.
MOST OF THEM ARE YOUNG PEOPLE.
THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE MUCH OLD THEIR DO THAT.
BUT A HOBBY?
A SPORTSMANSHIP?
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR.
YOU ARE TALKING REGULAR SHOT THATTINGS IN GENERAL?
11:11:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES, SIR.
I AM BOTHERED FOR.
11:11:25AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THEY ARE MAD.
11:11:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM BOTHERED BY -- THE GUN DID THE
THING.
DON'T GET ME WRONG.
THE GUN SHOULD NOT BE THERE.
MENTAL CAPACITY OF SOMEBODY TO SHOOT SOMEBODY AT THAT TIME
SHOW THEY HAVE NO FEELING OF LIFE FOR THEMSELVES.
BECAUSE THE REPERCUSSION IS A LONG LIFE SENTENCE AT LEAST
FOR LIFE.
SO WHAT IS THE -- DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHY THESE KIDS ARE DOING
THESE THINGS?
IS IT SOMETHING THAT IS A HOBBY?
THEY SEE SOMETHING HAPPENING SOMEWHERE AND THEY WANT TO DO
HERE.
THEY SEE IT HERE AND THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS HUNTING SEASON ON HUMANS BECAUSE
EVIDENTLY WE ARE HEADED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION AS A SOCIETY.
WE HAVE MORE KILLINGS IN THIS COUNTRY THAN THE NEXT 15
COUNTRIES THAT HAVE SAME TYPE OF GOVERNMENTS THAT WE HAVE
COMBINED.
MORE PEOPLE GET KILLED BY GUNS AND IN TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS OF
YOUTH.
AND ALL THOSE STATISTICS IS JUST OVERBEARING THERE HAS GOT
TO BE A PSYCHOLOGICAL REASON WHY THESE KIDS DO THAT.
WATCHING VIOLENCE AT THE HOME.
WATCHING VIOLENCE ON TV.
WATCHING VIOLENCE ON THE COMPUTER?
I DON'T REALLY KNOW.
BUT GOT TO BE SOME MIX OF SOMETHING THAT IS TRIGGERING ALL
THESE YOUNG KIDS TO DO WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
I AM NOT A PSYCHIATRIST OR ANYTHING NEAR THAT, BUT GOT TO BE
A REASON, MIND SET AT THE TIME THAT THAT THEY DO IT.
GIVEN UP HOPE ON LIFE.
DO THEY WANT TO BECOME FAMOUS.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW.
11:12:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MUSE, INC.
11:12:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE JUST VIOLENT.
AND I THINK IT IS DONE IN THE SPIRIT OF A MOMENT.
THEY CAN DO SOMETHING.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN EVER FIND OUT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY CAPACITY OF WHAT IS HAPPENING.
LIKE YOU SAID, WE ARE NOT PSYCHOLOGISTS EITHER AND A
MULTITUDE OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU MENTIONED FEED INTO IT.
THIS VIOLENT SOCIETY THAT WE HAVE GOT.
IT IS NOT GOOD AND WE DEFINITELY NEED TO TURN IT AROUND.
11:13:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
11:13:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:13:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS I ALWAYS SAY IS THAT FOR ME,
VIOLENT CRIME AND WHERE IT POPS UP IN COMMUNITIES IS ALSO A
JUSTICE EVERYBODY EWE.
AND THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WILL DISAGREE WITH ME ON
THAT.
BUT IT IS VERY EASY FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE -- I SEE THIS
A REPORT ON EAST TAMPA AND YBOR CITY.
WE CAN TALK OF AREAS IN WEST TAMPA, SULPHUR SPRINGS.
WE DON'T SHOOTINGS IN HUNTER GREENS, TAMPA PALM, BAYSHORE
AND PALMA CEIA.
IT IS REALLY EASY FOR PEOPLE NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT WHO
HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE SUFFERING LIKE THIS TO PUT YOUR HEAD
IN THE SAND AND NOT SEE THAT SUFFERING, RIGHT.
IT IS SUFFERING THAT IS DONE BY COMMUNITIES THAT IS LEFT
BEHIND.
A JUSTICE ISSUE.
THAT IS WHERE I STAND.
A JUSTICE AND EQUITY ISSUE.
AND YOU POLICE OFFICERS ARE ALWAYS ON THE FRONT LINE PUTTING
YOUR LIVES AND BODIES AT RISK TO PROTECT THOSE VULNERABLE
COMMUNITIES.
RIGHT.
AND WE ARE VERY, VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.
VERY, VERY THANKFUL.
I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
I ALWAYS SAYS IT EASY TO PUT YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND WHEN YOU
ARE IN A GATED COMMUNITY IN PARTS OF EAST TAMPA, BORCHELLER
OR SULFUR SPRINGS.
GOT TO BE AN OBLIGATION THAT WE ALL SHARE BY SUPPORTING THE
POLICE.
SUPPORTING VICTIMS RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS AND GOING TO RALLIES
AND BEING OUR BROTHER AND SISTER'S KEEPER.
PEOPLE ARE DYING AND WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE IN VIOLENT
CRIME AND NOT HAPPENING IN GATED COMMUNITIES.
BUT IT IS INCUMBENT ALL OF US TO HAVE EACH OTHER'S PACK JUST
AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
JUST THANK YOU.
11:15:23AM >> THANK YOU.
11:15:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
11:15:26AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. VIERA, YOU MADE A GOOD POINT, BUT THE
KICKER IS, YOU TALKED OF THOSE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
LET'S LOOK AT THOSE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
THEY HAVE RESOURCES THEY HAVE NICE THINGS.
SO ONE WOULD SAY IF I WANT TO CHANGE THE WHOLE PARADIGM
OVERALL, THAT'S WHERE MONEY NEEDS TO GO TO THOSE PLACE THAT
ARE UNDERSERVED.
IF I FEEL BETTER.
I DO BETTER.
IF I LOOK GOOD.
AND NOW I HAVE THE BETTER STANDARD OF LIVES.
IF WE CAN JUST -- JUST RESET AND PUT THOSE THINGS IN REAL
PRACTICALITIES.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE A LOT OF GUN VIOLENCE.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE A LOT OF THIS -- THE CHILDREN THAT HAVE TO
FEED THEMSELVES.
CHILDREN OR PARENTS WHO -- WHO -- SINGLE HOUSE HOLD FAMILIES
AND THINGS LIKE THAT IF WE CAN JUST SHIFT SOME RESOURCES.
AND WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY AND EQUALITY.
SOMETIMES DON'T HAVE BALANCE -- YOU HAVE TO BALANCE TO GET
THE SAME AMOUNT FROM HERE OVER HERE.
I TAKE YOUR POINT.
BUT WHAT YOU SAID PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR THAT AND PUT THE
DOLLARS WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO AND WE WON'T HAVE A LOT OF
PROBLEMS IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
11:16:44AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY?
11:16:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:16:48AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OBVIOUSLY I AGREE WITH THAT.
YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THINGS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS PASSED.
THINGS LIKE THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.
TO ME NOT JUST A MATTER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TRAINING
BUT ANTI-CRIME IDEA.
YOU HAVE KIDS FROM SCHOOLS, WHETHER KING, MIDDLETON,
JEFFERSON, WHO KNOW THEY HAVE A FUTURE THAT THE MIDDLE-CLASS
LIFESTYLE CAN BE WITHIN THEIR REACH AND A WORKING-CLASS
LIFESTYLE THROUGH THE SKILL TRADES.
THAT WILL FIGHT HOPELESSNESS.
RETURNING CITIZENS.
YOU KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YEARS IN
CITY COUNCIL.
THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT GOES TO THAT.
I THINK WE ARE ALL UNITED AND I AGREE 110%.
CRIME IS NOT JUST ABOUT.
A CRIME HAS MANY DIFFERENT FEATURES AND TOUGH ON VIOLENT
CRIME AND TOUGH ON THE CAUSES OF VIOLENT CRIME.
I GO BACK TO THE STATEMENT I MADE EARLIER.
THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE IN GOVERNMENT, POLITICALLY,
PHILOSOPHICALLY.
GOVERNMENT CAN BE A RESOURCE OF PROMOTING JUSTICE.
AND I COME FROM THE IDEA I DON'T MIND PAYING MORE.
I SUPPORT PAYING MORE IF IT MEANS INSTITUTING JUSTICE AND
EQUITY IN OUR CITY, STATE AND COUNTRY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:17:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:17:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MY SECOND BITE OF THE APPLE.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING AGAIN.
IN FACT, MR. VIERA, WHEN HE MENTIONED SOME THINGS.
MOST OF THE CRIMES THAT HAPPEN IN CERTAIN AREAS OF HIGHER
INCOME, THE HOMEOWNER IS LIABLE FOR SOME OF THE FAULT.
70% OF THOSE CRIMES, THE DOOR TO THE CAR IS NOT LOCKED.
THE WINDOWS ARE DOWN.
AND THE KEYS OR THE CLICKER TO THE GARAGE IS IN THE CAR.
70% FROM THE LATEST STATISTICS THAT I SAW SOME YEARS BACK.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVE TO TRAIN THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE
THERE ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CAR IS LOCKED.
NOT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BREAK INTO THE WINDOW OR
SOMETHING.
BUT AT LEAST THE ALARM WILL GO OFF.
THE ALARM WILL NOT GO YOU HAVE WHEN THE DOOR IS NOT LOCKED.
WE HAVE TO TRAIN NOT ONLY THE ONE WHO ARE DOING IT.
BUT THE ONES WHO ARE BECOMING THE VICTIMS BECAUSE GOT TO BE
TOLD THE STORY TO THEM DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
YOU HAVE TO YOU DO IT THREE TIMES, SEE IT, READ IT AND
UNDERSTAND IT.
THAT IS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND I APPRECIATE IT VERY
MUCH.
11:19:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM GOING TO HAVE THE LAST WORD AND SAYS IT
ALL ABOUT THE HOUSING, FOLKS.
ALL ABOUT THE HOUSING.
THAT DOES A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE COMMUNITIES SAFER.
I WANT TO SAY --
11:19:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY --
11:19:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ABSOLUTELY -- I AM FINE WITH WHATEVER.
BUT I DO JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE INCREDIBLY
DETAILED REPORT WHAT YOU ARE DOING IN AN AREA THAT REALLY
NEEDS A LOT OF ATTENTION AND I APPRECIATE HOW NOT ONLY WERE
YOU ABLE TO GIVE SUCH A DETAILED PRESENTATION BUT ABLE TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS WITH STATISTICS.
AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
IT SHOWS JUST THE GREAT WORK YOU ARE DOING.
AND IN THE NEW JOB YOU HAVE.
CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER GUDES, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO
MOVE FORWARD?
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.
11:19:58AM >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
11:19:59AM >> UP NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS CHAIRWOMAN FRAN TATE WITH A
REPORT FROM THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
WE HAVE A POWERPOINT WE NEED TO PULL UP.
11:20:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S UP.
11:20:27AM >>FRAN TATE:
GOOD MORNING, CRA CHAIRWOMAN LYNN HURTAK AND
BOARD MEMBERS.
I AM TATE TATE, THE -- FRAN TATE, THE CRA SHARE OF EAST
TAMPA.
GLAD TO BE HERE THIS MORNING, AND I WILL PROVIDE OUR EAST
TAMPA CRA UPDATES.
THE UPDATE WILL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING LISTED ITEMS -- PLEASE
FORGIVE ME.
I WANT TO FIRST COMMEND ALL OF YOU FOR THE PREVIOUS
DISCUSSION.
IT IS SO MUCH NEEDED.
GUN VIOLENCE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA.
PLEASE KEEP UP THE DISCUSSION AND ALLOW US TO DISCUSS IT
WITH YOU.
WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT DIALOGUE GOING.
BECAUSE IT IS REAL.
IT IS HAPPENING.
AND IT NEEDS TO END.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THE UPDATES WILL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING LISTED ITEMS -- AS
CHAIR OF THE EAST TAMPA CAC, I HAVE COME BEFORE YOU TWICE.
ONCE AT THE JANUARY 20 CRA MEETING AND THEN AGAIN IN APRIL
19 AT A JOINT COMMITTEE OF THE CRA AND THE CAC BOARD.
AT BOTH MEETINGS, A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN WAS EXPRESSED.
ABOUT THE INABILITY OF THE EAST TAMPA CAC BOARD, THE EAST
TAMPA CRA TO MOVE ANY PROJECTS FORWARD IN EAST TAMPA.
I WAS VERY PROUD TO STAND WITH THE TWO FORMER CHAIRS AND THE
CAC MEMBERS AS WELL AS THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.
WE CAME UNITED IN OUR COMMENTS AND REQUESTS.
NOT SO AS MUCH COMPLAINTS, BUT COMMENTS, REQUESTS.
BRINGING ON WEARINESS.
ASKING YOU TO ASSIST US IN MOVING OUR PROJECTS FORWARD.
WE HAD AN EVENTFUL YEAR, AND IN THIS PRESENTATION I WILL
SHARE THE HIGHLIGHTS AND FUTURE EVENTS.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I HAVE ONE OF THE CAC
CHAIRMEMBERS -- COMMITTEE MEMBERS -- EXCUSE ME, COMMITTEE
MEMBERS WITH ME TODAY AND I WOULD LIKE HER TO STAND.
NATASHA GOODLEY IS IN THE AUDIENCE.
NEXT.
WALT DISNEY ONCE SAID THE WAY TO GET STARTED IS TO QUIT
TALKING AND BEGIN DOING.
WITH THIS QUOTE IN MIND, WHEN I WAS ELECTED CHAIR,
ACTIVELY RECRUITED CHAIRS TO THE EAST TAMPA SUBCOMMITTEE.
EACH SUBCOMMITTEE HAS SUCCESSFULLY PROPOSED DEVELOPED,
DEBATED EXCELLENT PROGRAMS FOR THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
NEXT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SUBCOMMITTEES ARE VERY ENGAGED.
AESTHETICS AND BEAUTIFICATION IS CHAIRED BY MISS DENISE
JAMES.
THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION IS CHAIRED BY CURRENT
CHAIRWOMAN RHONDA ELLIS.
THE FORMER CHAIR WAS CHRIS GALLAGHER.
CHRIS HAD TO STEP DOWN DUE TO WORK CONFLICTS.
OUR CURRENT HOUSING IS MY VICE-CHAIR DOMINIQUE COBB.
THE FORMER CHAIR WAS PLEASES VANESSA McCLEARY AND WE THANK
HER FOR HER SERVICE.
NEXT.
THE CHAIR OF HEALTH EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES IS MR.
HAROLD JACKSON.
AND I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A PREVIOUS EVENT THAT HAROLD
AND HIS SUBCOMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER.
IT WAS THE FIRST ANNUAL EAST TAMPA HEALTH AND COMMUNITY
FAIR.
IT WAS WELL ATTENDED BY THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAD A PLETHORA OF MEDICAL AND SOCIAL SERVICES PROVIDERS
THAT CAME OUT AND OFFERED FREE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
HAVING THE SECOND HEALTH FAIR AND WE INVITE YOU ALL TO
ATTEND WHEN IT IS DEVELOPED.
THE CHAIR OF LAND USE IS MISS KIMBERLY HEADLAND.
OUR ATTORNEY IS CLINTON PAN IRS.
HE SITS ON THE CAC BOARD.
THE CHAIR OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS NO STRANGER
TO ANY OF YOU MISS ALISON HEWITT.
AND THE CHAIR OF THE MEMBERSHIP AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS
MISS KEELA McCASKILL.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT MISS KEELA McCASKILL'S
DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY UNSUNG HERO AWARD.
THIS AWARD IS GIVEN TO A COMMUNITY MEMBER OR MEMBERS WHO GO
ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY TO SHOW THE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMUNITY.
THE EAST TAMPA CRA HAS A PLETHORA OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE
COMMITTED TO COMPLETE SUCCESS.
AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE INFORMATION PROVIDED, I AM PLEASED TO
REPORT THE EAST TAMPA CRA IS NOW MOVING FORWARD.
SPECIAL THANK YOU TO OUR DISTRICTS 5 COUNCILMAN ORLANDO
GUDES WHO LED THE CHARGE IN THE SENIOR CENTER PROJECT.
ANOTHER SPECIAL THANK YOU MRS. NICOLE TRAVIS AND
MR. ALIS DRUMGO FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK TO FINALLY GET THIS
PROJECT MOVING.
THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FORWARD IN PARTICIPATING IN THE
PLANNING AND THE DESIGN OF THE MULTICULTURE AND THE SENIOR
CENTERS.
STAY TUNED.
WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE CONTINUED REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN
EAST TAMPA.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS.
THE CHARGE -- SORRY, THE CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP HAS HELPED
BEGIN -- BEGIN TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD IN EAST TAMPA.
THE EAST TAMPA CRA CAC REQUESTS THAT AS YOU SELECT THE NEW
CRA DIRECT REMEMBER, PLEASE MAINTAIN THE FOCUSED ASSISTANCE
TO THE -- DIRECTOR, PLEASE MAINTAIN THE FOCUSED ASSISTANCE
TO THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
THE EAST TAMPA CRA CAC WANT STRONG CONTRACT MANAGEMENT OF
THE EAST TAMPA CRA CRP UPDATE.
WE HAD A ROCKY START, BUT ONCE AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK
THE CRA BOARD, YOU ALL.
THE NEW CRA LEADERSHIP.
THE EAST TAMPA CRA STAFF.
MR. McCRAY, AND THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF THE
EAST TAMPA CRA AND THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.
THIS CONCLUDES MY REPORT THIS MORNING.
THANK YOU.
11:28:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:28:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MISS TATE, YOUR REPUTATION SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
YOU ARE A LEADER IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE WITH YOU.
THAT DASH IS THAT, ALISON AND KEELA ARE ALL LEADERS IN THE
COMMUNITY.
I OFTEN SAID THAT EAST TAMPA IS THE LAND THAT TIME FORGOT.
11:28:44AM >> YES.
11:28:45AM >> BECAUSE ON DECADES THEY WERE ON THE BACK BURNER IF EVEN
ON THIS BURNER.
AND THE REST OF THE CITY WAS PROSPERING AND EAST TAMPA WAS
STAYING BEHIND.
A GREAT COUNCIL MEMBER WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES AND PRESS SES
ER COUNCILMEMBER REDDICK.
A LOT HATCHING IN EAST TAMPA AND MOW MOAN TUM AND THIS IS
JUST THE BEGINNING.
THESE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO TRICKLE DOWN INTO INSPIRING MORE
TO HAPPEN TO THIS COMMUNITY WHERE EAST TAMPA NO LONGER IS
THAT LAND THAT TIME FORGOT.
THE CITY LIMITS DON'T STOP AT THE INTERSECTION.
THEY GO ALL THE WAY TO THE END.
AND WHAT WAS IT, THE HEALTH FAIR.
THE FIRST ANNUAL.
11:29:34AM >>FRAN TATE:
YES.
11:29:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE THEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF
TAMPA OR EVENTS SIMILAR TO IT.
WEST TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA.
WHATEVER IT IS.
BUT THE FIRST ANNUAL IN EAST TAMPA.
BASIC THINGS THAT BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER THAT CONNECT
PEOPLE TO THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED.
STUFF LIKE THIS IS WHAT WORKS AND WHAT INSPIRES FOR OTHER
PROGRAMS AND EVENTS TO TAKE PLACE LIKE THIS.
SO EAST TAMPA HAS THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND TOGETHERNESS
KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER AND WE ARE
ALL GOING TO LIFT EACH OTHER UP.
THE PRESENTATION -- YOU KNOW, IT SPOKES TO ITSELF BECAUSE
YOU HIGHLIGHTED SO MANY THINGS.
WHEN PEOPLE SAY NOTHING IS HAPPENING IN EAST TAMPA, YOU
SHOWED -- THIS IS JUST A SAMPLE.
BECAUSE A LOT GOING ON.
THESE ARE BIG THINGS.
COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS A LEADER FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND A
HUGE WIN AND I CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT TO COME TO FRUITION.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE BIG AND SMALL THAT IS HAPPENING THERE,
THE CATALYST THAT IS GOING TO MOVE EAST TAMPA FORWARD IN
WAYS THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN IN THE PAST AND NEW DAY FOR THE
COMMUNITY AND THE BEST IS YET TO COME.
WE ARE ON THE APPETIZER.
WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE MAIN COURSE.
THANK YOU AND EVERYONE INVOLVED IN YOUR LEADERSHIP.
11:30:56AM >>FRAN TATE:
THANK YOU, SIR.
11:30:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOOD MEMBER GUDES.
11:31:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
LIKE I SAID AND I SAID IT ALL THE TIME, YOU
HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THINGS TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING TO MAKE
THINGS MOVE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE IN POSITION WHO KNOW THE SUBJECT
MATTER.
AS YOU CAN SEE YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA ON THE BOARD
SUBJECT MATTER PEOPLE WHO CAN'T KNOW -- THEY CAN'T BE BSED
NO MORE.
WHEN SOMEONE TELLS THEM KNOW, THEY ASK WHY.
AND BRING UP FACTS SAYING YES, WE CAN.
BECAUSE RULES IN PLACE THAT SAY WE CAN DO IT.
NOT THAT WE EXPECT DO IT.
I AM GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE IN POSITION WHO HAVE THE
INTELLIGENCE TO QUESTION WHY AND WHY NOT AND WE ARE MOVING.
I AM THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE A BOARD WHO UNDERSTANDS AND WE
HAVE VOTES TO GET THINGS MOVING.
YOU THANK THEM FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP FOR UNDERSTANDING AND ME
ASKING TO GO EXPERIENCE AND LOOK AND SEE FOR THEMSELVES THE
-- KID MASON WHEN WE GOT THAT APPROVED BECAUSE THAT PLACE IS
HORRIBLE.
TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON AND TO HAVE LEADERSHIP TO
MOVE.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD -- MISS GOODLEY.
MISS BURTON.
WE HAVE YOU MISS FRAN THAT YOU QUESTION.
BEFORE THEY WANTED TO GO ALONG TO GET ALONG.
TO BE ON A BOARD SAYING I AM SERVING WHICH IS GOOD.
BUT TO SERVE, YOU HAVE TO SERVE WITH A PURPOSE.
YOU HAVE TO SERVE WITH A PURPOSE AND GOALS AND ACHIEVEMENTS
IN MIND.
LIKE I TELL PEOPLE IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I AM REELECTED OR
NOT.
I CAN WALK AWAY WITH MY HEAD JUST HIGH SAYING I SERVED MY
COMMUNITY NO MATTER WHAT.
IF THOSE WHO DON'T LIKE ME, FINE.
THOSE WHO DO, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SERVE.
BY DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE SMALL THINGS BUT THE BIG THINGS
THAT WILL GET THE COMMUNITY MOVING.
WE HAVE MR. DRUMGO AND MISS TRAVIS HERE.
I TELL PEOPLE, THEY GET IT BECAUSE I AM SURE THEY HAVE LIVED
IT BEFORE AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF MAKING
SOMETHING MOVE.
THEY UNDERSTAND IT.
AND THEY ARE NOT AFRAID, BECAUSE LIKE I TOLD A PERSON THE
OTHER DAY.
I SAID, IF MISS TRAVIS WAS TO EVER PUSH BACK ON THE
ADMINISTRATION, THERE WOULD BE 20 OR 30 PHONE CALLS SAYING
WE WILL TAKE YOU.
20 TO 30 CALLS, WE WILL TAKE YOU BECAUSE WE KNOW SHE CAN GET
THE JOB DONE.
AND THAT'S ALL WE ASK.
IF IT DOESN'T FIT, IT DON'T FIT.
SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
AND, AGAIN, FOR YOUR BOARD.
I KNOW YOU ARE NOW COMING TOGETHER.
CHANGES COMING AROUND WITH THE RECREATE COMING UP.
AND NOW MORE AND BETTER COMING.
AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
11:33:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:33:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MUCH HAPPIER TO SEE YOU SMILING THIS MORNING
THAN BEFORE.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
THANK YOU TO MISS GOODLEY FOR HER LEADERSHIP.
MISS BURTON AND ALL YOUR BOARD MEMBERS.
ALSO KEELA AND ALISON AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO IS HERE TODAY.
YOU HAVE THE -- YOUR EAST TAMPA -- YOUR -- YOUR CRA
DISTRICT.
YOU HAVE 100% SUPPORT ON THIS BOARD.
AND I AM SORRY THAT IT TOOK SO LONG FOR US TO BE ABLE TO
DELIVER THE SERVICES WE NEED.
WE WERE ALL UNITED AND TRYING TO DELIVER IT.
AND IT -- AND UNFORTUNATELY IT TOOK -- TOOK THE VOICE OF
THREE CHAIRS TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
BUT THAT VOICE WAS LOUD AND CLEAR.
AND WE ARE GETTING THINGS DONE.
BUT PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO CONTINUE TO
SUPPORT YOU.
AS MY COLLEAGUES SAID, THIS AREA HAS BEEN NEGLECTED FOR TOO
LONG.
THIS AREA HAS AN IMPORTANT RICH CULTURE AND WE NEED TO BE
SUPPORTIVE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY IN DETERMINING
THEIR OWN DESTINY GOING FORWARD.
THANK YOU.
11:35:03AM >> ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU.
11:35:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANT TO SAY -- TO ECHO WHAT MISS
GOODLEY SAID EARLIER THE FACT THAT THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU ALL
HAVE INSTITUTED IN THE EAST TAMPA CAC, A LOT OF THEM ARE NOW
BEING LOOKED AT AND POSSIBLY REPLICATED IN THEIR OWN WAY BY
OTHER CRAs IN THE CITY AND YOU SHOULD BE INCREDIBLY PROUD OF
THAT.
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT ENOUGH.
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING -- WE ARE HAVING THIS
DISCUSSION ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND YOU ALONG WITH THE WEST TAMPA CRA HAS PUT MONEY TOWARD
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SOMETHING YOU HAVE DONE AS PART OF WHAT YOU DO.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
OTHERS HAVE PUT SOME MONEY IN, BUT IT HAS BEEN A FOCUS OF
YOUR COMMUNITY AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
11:35:55AM >>FRAN TATE:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:35:58AM >> BEFORE WE MOVE ON, MADAM CHAIR, MISS GOODLEY HAS BEEN
ASKED TO MAKE A COMMENT.
WE TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE COMMENTS DURING STAFF REPORT, BUT IF
YOU WOULD ALLOW.
11:36:16AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.
11:36:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED.
OKAY.
11:36:34AM >> I KIND OF WANTED TO TIE IN TO THE JACKSON HOUSE AS I WAS
MENTIONED DURING THAT TIME AS WELL AS WHAT IS HAPPENING IN
EAST TAMPA.
AND I KNOW I AM PREACHING TO THE CHOIR BECAUSE EVERYONE SAYS
EAST TAMPA HAS BEEN NEGLECTED AND WE NEED -- WE NEED TO DO
MORE TO MOVE THE COMMUNITY FORWARD BUT BLACK HISTORY HAS
BEEN ERASED IN EAST TAMPA.
AND PRETTY MUCH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
AND SO I WOULD REALLY, REALLY HOPE THAT NOT JUST YOU --
BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE SAID YOU SUPPORT IT -- BUT THAT WE CAN
GET THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY TO MOVE THINGS IN A BETTER
DIRECTION FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
OUR CEMETERIES HAVE BEEN BUILT OVER.
MARKERS AND MANY OF THESE CEMETERIES HAVE BEEN TORN DOWN.
30th STREET AND SLY HAS A MARK THEIR SAYS IT WAS A HISTORIC
BLACK CEMETERY.
THE COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY WHICH LITERALLY ABUTS THE END OF
MY STREET AND THE ITALIAN CLUB CEMETERY USED AS THEIR
PARKING LOT FOR YEARS.
KING HIGH SCHOOL BEING BUILT OVER A CEMETERY.
ROBLES PARK BEING BUILT OVER A CEMETERY.
AND RECENTLY I WAS APPROACHED BY SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE
TRYING TO DISCOVER MR. MIDDLETON'S GRAVE IN MEMORIAL PARK
AND HOW WE CAN HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL NAMED AFTER SOMEONE AND WE
DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE HIS GRAVE IS.
WE JUST KNOW IT IS LOCATED IN THE CEMETERY.
WE HAD BUILDINGS TORN DOWN.
WE HAD OUR NEIGHBORHOODS DISMANTLED AND DESTROYED.
THE INTERSTATE CHOKED US FROM THE REST OF THE CITY AND KIND
OF CHOKED THE LIFELINE OUT OF US.
EAST TAMPA HAS NEVER BEEN PLACED ON THE CITY BUDGET AND I
UNDERSTAND BECAUSE ONCE IT IS PLACED ON THE BUDGET, THE CRAS
CAN'T SPEND THE MONEY IN THE DOLLARS.
IF YOU LEAVE US OFF THE BUDGET, IT LEAVES THE CRA TO TAKE
CARE OF THOSE ITEMS.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO SOME OF THE MOST BASIC WORK THAT
TYPICALLY COMES FROM A CITY ANYWAY.
AND WHEN I SAY THE MOST BASIC WORK, I MEAN, WE LEVERAGED
FUNDS TO RESURFACE STREETS, SIDEWALKS, CURBS.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO DO, NOT
THE CRA.
THE CRA IS TO SUPPLEMENT AND ELIMINATE SLUM AND BLIGHT, BUT
WE ARE INSTITUTING ACTUAL ITEMS FROM THE CITY.
AND THE PROOF IS IN THE CITY.
AND WE STOP LEVERAGED THOSE FUNDS WHEN I WAS CHAIR.
AND ONCE WE STOPPED LEVERAGING THE FUNDS, NO STREETS HAVE
BEEN RESURFACED.
NO SIDEWALKS HAVE BEEN PUT DOWN.
NO CURB HAVE BEEN PLACED.
IF DON'T PAY FOR THE UPKEEP OF OUR COMMUNITY, IT DOES NOT
HAPPEN.
WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FINALLY DO THE RIGHT THING AND
SAVE A PART OF BLACK HISTORY IN THIS CITY.
AND THAT IS WITH THE JACKSON HOUSE.
I ALWAYS SUPPORTED IT.
I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN A FIRM BELIEVER IN IT.
BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
BECAUSE AS COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID, CENTRAL PARK, GONE.
YOU GO THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY.
EVERYTHING IS GONE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
WE HAVE LITTLE BITS AND PIECES.
AND THAT IS, LIKE, THE LAST PIECE THAT WE HAVE.
AND WE REALLY NEED TO SAVE IT.
WE CAN'T -- WE CAN -- WE CAN PLACE MARKERS FOR THE CEMETERY
BUT NOBODY EVEN HAS REALLY ANY CLUE WHO IS UNDER THAT.
WE TONIGHT KNOW.
ANY TIME I SEE A FUNERAL AND CARS PARKED THERE, IT JUST
HURTS ME, BECAUSE HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF WE PARKED OVER YOUR
GRANDMOTHER'S GRAVE.
DOWN THE ROAD WE PARK OVER YOUR GRAVE AND WE JUST DON'T
CARE.
SO, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, HELP US SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE.
BUT ALSO HELP US WITH THE EAST TAMPA CRA BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE
ARE PAYING FOR THINGS THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE PAYING FOR.
WE SHOULD BE SUPPLEMENTING.
WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO RESURFACE OUR STREETS AND PAVE ROADS
AND DO THOSE TYPE OF THINGS AND FIX PLUMBING ISSUES.
SO THANK YOU.
11:40:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
MANISCALCO YOU JUST MENTIONED THE GRAVE OF MR. MIDDLETON.
WHAT WAS THE NAME.
11:40:39AM >> GEORGE S. MIDDLETON.
MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL.
11:40:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THEY CAN'T FIND A GRAVE.
11:40:47AM >> A TEAM OF US THAT WILL START LOOKING FOR HIS GRAVE.
I BELIEVE IT STARTED IN 1933.
AND THE SCHOOL -- I WILL LOOK FOR IT.
I KNOW IT IS WEIRD.
I AM GOOD AT FINDING GRAVES.
I ACTUALLY FOUND AN UNMARKED GRAVE OF -- OF A HISTORIC --
NOT A POSITIVE HISTORICAL FIGURE IN TAMPA, BUT -- BUT LET'S
SEE, IF THERE IS A MARKER.
EVEN IF IT IS OVERGROWN OR SUNKEN, I WILL LOOK.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE.
BY THE CEMETERY, THE ITALIAN CLUB.
THE ARMWOOD FAMILY IS THERE.
ANOTHER SCHOOL, BLANCHE ARMWOOD WITH A BUST ON THE
RIVERWALK.
WE KNOW WHERE SHE IS AT, BUT MIDDLETON, WHICH -- I MEAN HOW
MANY ALUM DO WE HAVE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT ATTENDED THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD KNOW WHERE THE GENTLEMAN IS BURIED.
I WILL GO OUT AND LOOK FOR IT.
I KNOW YOU ALL ARE, BUT IF I FIND IT FIRST, I WILL LET YOU
KNOW.
11:41:43AM >> THANK YOU.
11:41:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANKS.
11:41:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:41:48AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE POINT YOU MENTIONED A BUNCH OF GOOD
POINTS.
BUT ONE WAS THAT -- THAT SHOULD SUPPLEMENT CITY BUDGET AND
NOT REPLACE IT.
I JUST HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH MISS TRAVIS YESTERDAY.
AND I ASSUME MY COLLEAGUES HAVE AND WE HEARD IT FROM LOTS OF
PEOPLE AND IT IS AN IMPORTANT THING.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THE BUDGET IS ALLOCATED FOR ROADS ARE
NOTHING THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY.
I THINK THE WHOLE CITY SIDEWALK BUDGET IS $600,000.
WE ARE HEARING COMPLAINTS EVERYWHERE ON THAT.
ALL OF OUR TRANSPORTATION GOES THROUGH, WE NEED TO PLEASE
MAKE SURE WE SIT DOWN AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERY PART OF THE
CITY IS AT LEAST TREATED EQUALLY.
BUT THAT WE -- WE FIX THE LONG NEGLECT THAT IS IN SOME
AREAS.
BUT THE OTHER THING THAT YOU MENTIONED IS BLACK HISTORY.
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT JACKSON HOUSE WHICH IS
EVEN ONE SMALL PART.
I CAN MAKE A MOTION OR MR. GUDES CAN MAKE A MOTION.
IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HAVE YOU COME BACK OR SOMEBODY TO
COME BACK AND MAKE ADDITIONAL SUGGESTIONS TO THE CRA BOARD
OR CITY COUNCIL BOARD IN WORKSHOP WHAT THE CRA BOARD OR CITY
COUNCIL CAN TO DO HELP SUPPORT BLACK HISTORY.
I KNOW THERE IS AN EFFORT -- COMMISSIONER MEYERS HAVE AN
EFFORT TO CREATE A MUSEUM.
AND THERE ARE EFFORTS TO SET UP GALLERIES AND OTHER SPACES
FOR BLACK ARTISTS.
A LOT OF DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS GOING ON.
BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE THE HISTORY THAT IS OUT
THERE.
AND JUST ONE IDEA THAT DIDN'T COST VERY MUCH.
I WORKED SEVERAL YEARS WITH THE FLORIDA HUMANITIES.
AND I PUT A JOSE MARTI TRAIL IN YBOR.
WE GOT GARY MORMINO, A HISTORIAN OF EFOR AND A CUBAN HAND
AMERICAN ACTOR WHO PORTRAYED JOSE MARTI.
IT WAS ONLY $5,000.
AND EVERYBODY CAN GO TO YBOR CITY AND GET A FREE WALKING
TOUR OF THE HUMANITIES COUNCIL AND AMONG 30 OF THE WALKING
TOURS.
AND LISTEN OF JOSE MARTI OF THE PLACES HE VISITED AND WORKED
IN YBOR.
JUST A SMALL IDEA OF BRINGING HISTORY TO LIFE.
WE NEED -- I KNOW THERE ARE SOME GREAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE GIVEN
ME TOURS OF EAST TAMPA.
AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT ANGLES TO
MAINTAIN IT.
11:44:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?
11:44:11AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PUT ON THE
NOVEMBER CRA -- IF YOU WERE WILLING --
11:44:17AM >> I AM WILLING.
11:44:18AM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO HAVE MISS GOODLEY COME BACK AND GIVE US
SUGGESTIONS ON HOW THE CRA BOARD COULD SUPPORT TEACHING AND
REMEMBERING BLACK HISTORY.
11:44:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON AND A
SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THAT IS NOVEMBER 10.
11:44:44AM >> WE ARE ASKING TO HEAR ITEMS 9 AND 10 TOGETHER, MADAM
CHAIR.
BOTH ARE -- ITEM NUMBER 9 IS A REPORT FROM ROBIN.
BUT TO REPORT ON THE FEASIBILITY OF THE CRA PARTICIPATION.
I THINK WE CAN COVER THOSE COLLECTIVELY AND SHE WILL PROVIDE
THE INITIAL REPORT AND HAVE INITIAL DISCUSSION.
11:45:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WONDERFUL.
START WITH THE REPORT AND THEN HAVE A DISCUSSION.
11:45:17AM >> TURN IT OVER TO MISS NYE.
11:45:22AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHEN SHE IS DONE, CAN I ASK A QUESTION.
11:45:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE WILL HEAR THE REPORT AND THEN HAVE
DISCUSSION.
11:45:30AM >> WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS ONE AS WELL.
IF THEY CAN PULL THAT UP.
11:45:34AM >> GOOD MORNING.
A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
AND I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT ITEMS NUMBER 8 AND
9.
AND EVEN THOUGH I KNOW YOU HAVE SEEN SOME TIME AGO THIS
PRESENTATION, IT IS UPDATED AND I HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE
INFORMATION ABOUT IT TO SHARE WITH YOU AND EXPLAIN ABOUT OUR
EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT TO IT.
SOUL WALK IS IN DEVELOPMENT.
IT WILL BE TAMPA AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL AND HERITAGE
TRAIL.
IT IS REALLY UNLIKE ANYTHING THAT I HAVE SEEN WITH REGARDS
TO LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS HERE.
SORRY.
AND I ALSO WANT TO STRESS WHY THE TERM SOUL.
IT COMES OUT OF THE UPMOST DEEPEST RESPECT FOR CULTURAL
TRADITIONS.
IT IS INTENDED TO HONOR OUR ANCESTORS.
THE ANCESTORS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND BEYOND AND TO
OPEN THE DOOR WITH DIALOGUE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.
THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT AS I AM SURE
YOU ARE AWARE OF FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
SLOW AND METHODICAL BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH AND WE TAKE IT
SERIOUSLY AS A HEAVY LOAD OF RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HEAR
EVERYTHING THAT WE SHOULD HEAR.
TALK TO EVERYBODY.
THAT WE BRING IN THE TALENT THAT WE KNOW IS HERE TO HELP US
SHAPE IT.
TELL THE STORY AND WE TRY TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE.
WE HAVE LOOKED AT A LOT OF BENCHMARKS IN TERMS OF DIFFERENT
TYPES OF TRAILS.
THE ONES THAT WE THINK IS -- THAT REALLY HAVE A LOT TO
OFFER.
THERE ARE TWO HERE THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IF YOU ARE
INTERESTED IN TAKING A DEEPER LOOK AT.
ONE IS WASHINGTON D.C.'S AFRICAN-AMERICAN HERITAGE TRAIL.
BEAUTIFULLY DONE.
IT IS THEMED.
A WONDERFUL WEB SITE THAT GOES TO IT.
IT IS TIED IN TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHICH I THINK IS
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO GET INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SUCH.
IT IS -- JUST VERY, VERY THOUGHTFULLY DONE.
IT INCLUDES THE MUSEUMS AND SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING
AT.
MUSCLE SHOALS IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE AND CULTURAL HERITAGE
AREA.
AND LOOKS BROADLY AT CULTURAL HERITAGE OF HOW TO EXPERIENCE
AND IT MOVE FORWARD WITH CULTURAL HERITAGE TOURISM.
WE LOOK AT A NUMBER OF PROCESSES AND EXAMPLE AND SO ON AND
REALLY WHAT WE WANT THE PROGRAM TO DO.
WE WANT THE COMMUNITIES AND WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO TOUCH
EVERY -- AS MANY NEIGHBORHOODS AS POSSIBLE WE ARE -- WE WANT
TO CREATE A FEELING OF RECONNECTION, RESILIENCY,
RECOGNITION.
I KNOW I DON'T NEED TO READ THIS, BUT SO IMPORTANT THAT WE
MOVE -- DO IT RIGHT AND DO IT THROUGH THE ARTS AND PROVIDE
ACCESS FOR PEOPLE TO CONNECT.
SOME OF RECENT ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE DONE.
I BELIEVE AS I REPORTED TO YOU LAST, I AM NOT SURE THAT WE
RECEIVED WORD YET OF THE NEA GRANTS THAT WE HAD APPLIED FOR.
WE HAVE RECEIVED BOTH NEA GRANTS THAT I AM PROUD TO SAY.
A TEMPORARY MEMORIAL AT ZION CEMETERY.
THE ARTIST -- WE HAVE AN ARTIST THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNATED.
SHE WILL BE IN TOWN IN NOVEMBER AND MEETING WITH THE HOUSING
AUTHORITY AND THE ZION CEMETERY NONPROFIT BOARD.
WE ARE SLOWLY MAKING PROGRESS AND OUR OBJECTIVE THERE IS TO
HAVE SOME TYPE OF A PROPOSAL OR CONCEPT WE ALSO HAVE A
LARGER GRANT TO CONNECT WITH THE BROADER ASPECTS OF SOUL
WALK.
WE DID AN OPEN CALL TO ARTISTS SO WE HAVE A PREQUALIFIED
POOL.
WE ARE ALSO VERY MUCH DIGGING INTO AND VERY CONSCIOUS OF THE
CITY'S DEI INITIATIVES.
SO WE ARE VERY COGNIZANT IN REACHING OUT TO REGIONAL
ARTISTS, PARTICULARLY ARTISTS OF COCHLEAR.
IT HAS BEEN -- BEEN A SLOW PROCESS AS I MENTIONED BUT
EXTREMELY REWARDING TO DATE AND I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT
CONTINUES.
WE WILL HAVE PERIODIC ACTIVES THAT CONTINUE THROUGH THE
YEARS COMING UP THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE THE
COMMUNITY AND TALK TO THE PUBLIC AND SEE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS
ARE, OF WHAT WE CAN DO AND BRING SOME OF THEIR VISIONS AND
STORIES TO LIFE.
AND TO KEEP IT IN -- FOR LONGEVITY.
SO -- THE MAP RIGHT NOW -- THE MAP IS -- I WILL SHOW YOU
WHERE WE ARE ON THAT IN A MOMENT.
IT IS COMING ALONG.
THIS SAYS 130, BUT REALLY MORE LIKE 149, NOT TO BE PRECISE,
DATA POINTS RIGHT NOW.
AND ALL OF IT, THAT INCLUDES ARTWORK THAT IS PLANNED AND
WHAT IS EXISTING OUT THERE.
YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED LOCATIONS,
HISTORIC MARKERS AND THE OTHER SITES OF INTEREST WHICH
INCLUDE, OF COURSE, THE CEMETERIES AND MUSEUMS AND OTHER
AREAS AS WELL.
SIGNATURE PROJECTS WITH THE CITY IN TERMS OF ART AT THE
PUBLIC REALM AND PUBLIC ART COMPONENT OF IT.
SOME OF THOSE ARE ALREADY UNDER WAY.
I MENTIONED ZION ALREADY AND ALSO HANNA AVENUE AND THE --
THE UNDERPASS AS WELL AND THE CONVENTION CENTER.
THIS IS TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE MAP.HOW IT IS
BREAKING OUT.
THE EAST AND THE WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER AND LOOKING AT
CREATING GUIDE BOOKS WHERE WE WILL HAVE THAT AND WOULD LIKE
TO HAVE A GOOD PORTION DOCTOR THE FIRST GUIDE BOOK DONE
IDEALLY IN JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR BECAUSE IN WORKING WITH
VISIT TAMPA BAY, QUITE A FEW CONVENTIONS, AFRICAN-AMERICAN
CONVENTIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS MATERIAL
AVAILABLE TO THEM AS WELL.
AND SO THE CURATORIAL APPROACH.
THIS HAS NOT CHANGED.
THIS IS THE SAME IMAGE THAT I PRESENT A COUPLE OF MONTHS
AGO.
BECAUSE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE LISTEN BEFORE ANY
ACTION.
THAT WE HEAR THE TYPE OF ART.
BECAUSE COULD BE SOMETHING VERY, VERY DIFFERENT.
AND SOMETIMES ART MAKE SOMETHING MORE COMMUNITY BUILDING AND
IT IS ABOUT CONNECTING AND HEARING STORIES.
SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PULL THAT IN AND TO USE IT AND TO
KEEP IT AND TO SHARE IT MOST IMPORTANTLY.
THERE IS, AGAIN, WE ARE IN OUR OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT.
WE ARE -- WE DON'T WANT -- WE DON'T -- OUR EGOS AREN'T -- IT
IS NOT ONE PERSON.
IT IS A LOT OF US THAT ARE PULLING TOGETHER WITH THIS.
AND I HAVE A LIST OF THE SPONSORS MOMENTARILY OR PARTNERS AT
THE END.
BECAUSE MICK IS INVOLVED.
WE TALK TO EVERYBODY.
EGOS AREN'T AT THE TABLE.
WE ALL WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
PART OF IT IS WHEN WE -- FOR INSTANCE, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
LIBRARIES, THEY HAVE A WONDERFUL ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM.
WE DON'T NEED TO KEEP THOSE ORAL HISTORIES.
WE CAN TAKE THOSE ORAL HISTORIES.
LET THE LIBRARY HAVE THOSE ORAL REQUIREMENTS AND LET'S SHARE
THAT THE SCHOLARS OF USF HAVE THOSE AND THEY ARE AWARE OF
IT.
A CROSS FERT LITTLIZATION.
AND WHAT WE CAN GETS AND THEY CAN HAVE, IT IS NOT ABOUT
POWER HERE.
IT'S -- OR A DIFFERENT KIND OF POWER.
MAYBE IT IS ABOUT EMPOWERING.
THE EDUCATION COMPONENT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
AND, AGAIN, WE ARE WORKING -- A TRUE PARTNER WITH THE TAMPA
BAY HISTORY CENTER AND WITH THAT, IT OPENS UP A LOT WHERE WE
WILL APPLYING.
WE RECEIVED A FLORIDA HUMANITIES COUNCIL GRANT WHAT WE DID
AT PERRY HARVEY PARK AND WE ARE LOOKING TO DUPLICATE THAT
SUCCESS.
IN ADDITION WITH WORK WITH OTHERS.
THE SMITHSONIAN.
WE ARE HOPING TO BRING THEM IN AS A PARTNER.
THEY ARE PARTNERS WITH THE HISTORY CENTER AND IT MAKES A LOT
OF SENSE AND DIRECTOR OF THE SMITHSONIAN KEVIN YOUNG IS A
POET.
HE UNDERSTANDS THE SPIRIT OF THE ART OF HOW THAT CAN TEACH,
INSPIRE AND CONNECT WITH HISTORY.
WE ARE IN DISCUSSION WITH -- WE ARE LOOKING AT PHONE APPS
AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
TNI HAS BEEN AMAZING IN BUILDING THE MAPS THAT WE HAVE IN
THOSE DATA POINTS.
BLOOMBERG.
WE PROBABLY PULL UP THEIR APP SO THIS WILL GO NATIONAL.
AND CERTAINLY OFFER A LOT OF -- OF OPPORTUNITIES TO CONNECT
WITH IT AT LEAST.
NOW ONE OF THESE ALSO VERY MUCH IS GROUNDED IN ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE
COMMUNITY TO DO PROJECTS TO CONNECT TO IT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, NOT BEING -- NOT THE EGO TO
DRIVE IT AND TO OWN IT, BUT TO CONNECT IT.
AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO -- YOU KNOW, THE OLD BUSINESSES.
HISTORIC BARBECUES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THEY SHOULD BE INCLUDED AND ENCOURAGED TO GO AND EXPERIENCE
THAT.
IF WE CAN HELP WITH THAT, THAT IS VERY MUCH WHAT WE WANT TO
DO.
WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN OURSELVES SPIN OFF
IN TERMS OF OUR PROGRAMMING THAT COULD INCLUDE MENTORING
PROGRAMS WHERE OUR -- TALKING TO AN ARTIST HOW SHE IS
MENTORED OR CAN MENTOR.
AND LOTS OF WAYS TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO STRENGTH.
AND -- AND WANT TO DO THAT.
AND TO FEEL PROUD AND THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE WHY ON THE
MOMENT.
IT IS ON THE MOMENT.
AND I HAVE TO SAY ONE OF MY FAVORITE QUOTES IS MARTIN LUTHER
KING, JR.'S QUOTE HERE ABOUT SOUL FORCE, BECAUSE TALKS ABOUT
THE SPIRIT CAN REALLY PUSH IT THROUGH AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.
AND THAT SO MUCH WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
WE ARE -- THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE OF COLOR CITY.
WE OUGHT TO EMBRACE IT.
CELEBRATE IT.
ENJOY IT.
ROLL AROUND IN IT.
JUST LOVE IT.
BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES US STRONGER AND MAKES US BETTER.
SO WE ARE VERY MUCH CONNECTED.
AND TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING IN THAT SENSE.
WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE?
WELL, PEOPLE WHO GET CONNECTED WITH THE ARTS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF -- WE HAVE OUR CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS
THERE DOING SOME SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL PROJECTS DOWNTOWN, BUT
THAT IS NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND IT DOESN'T GET TO THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO WHY CAN'T WE DO SOME TYPE OF CREATIVE AND INNOVATIVE
PROGRAMMING THAT BRINGS IT TO THEM IN A WAY THAT IT IS PART
OF THEIR HOME AND PART OF THEIR LIFE.
FIGURING OUT WAYS TO DO THAT FOR VISITORS AND RESIDENTS
ALIKE.
AND, OF COURSE, IT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A
GOOD DIALOGUE ABOUT RACE.
IT IS ON THE MOMENT.
IT HAS BEEN GREAT ACTUALLY SITTING IN HERE TODAY.
BECAUSE THE CONVERSATIONS, EVERY ONE OF THEM HAVE REINFORCED
WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE AND GIVES ME STRENGTH TO MOVE FORWARD
BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU HAVE THOSE MOMENTS OF DOUBT.
AND, AGAIN, JUST TO STRESS, IT IS ABOUT THE ECONOMY.
IT IS ABOUT PRESERVING OUR HISTORY.
DEI, STRENGTH IN INCLUSION AND NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS.
SO IN SUMMARY, I THINK I PRETTY MUCH HAVE REPEATED MYSELF A
BIT HERE, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO JUST CELEBRATE TAMPA STORY,
PARTICULARLY OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY TO ME IS WHAT
EVERY CITY'S STORY IS IN THE SENSE THAT HOW IT IS
MARGINALIZATION AND ERASURE AND JUST TIMELY INITIATIVE AND
PROJECT TO DO.
LASTLY -- I WILL SHOW YOU A LIST OF PARTNERS.

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