TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 8, 2022, 5:00 P.M.

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05:05:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE EVENING
SESSION OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HELD ON THIS DATE, SEPTEMBER 8,
2022.
ROLL CALL.
05:05:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
05:05:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
05:05:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
05:05:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.
05:05:42PM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:05:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY.
05:05:47PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THIS IS THE SEPTEMBER 8, 2022 OF THE CITY
OF TAMPA HELD IN CITY TAMPA CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, HERE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING IN PERSON OR VIEW
IT BY CABLE TELEVISION ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640 OR FRONTIER
CHANNEL 15 OR BY INTERNET, VIA WWW.TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING EITHER
HERE IN PERSON, IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS OR VIRTUALLY BY WAY
OF COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR CMT.
USE OF CMT REQUIRES PREREGISTRATION WITH THE CITY CLERK'S
OFFICE.
DIRECTIONS ARE INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC NOTICE AND ON THE
AGENDA.
ALSO, IF THE MATTER IS QUASI-JUDICIAL, A ZONING, OR SPECIAL
USE PUBLIC HEARING, THE MEMBERS OF PUBLIC CAN STILL
PARTICIPATE REMOTELY BY CMT BUT SMARTPHONES ARE NOT
COMPATIBLE.
YOU MUST HAVE ACCESS TO A CMT DEVICE, A TABLET OR COMPUTER
EQUIPPED WITH A CAMERA AND MICROPHONE THAT WILL ENABLE YOU
TO BE SEEN AND HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL AND ALL OTHER
PARTICIPANTS IN A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:07:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS JOINED US
AND COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL BE JOINING US VIA INTERNET.
05:07:14PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
CAN I ALSO GET A MOTION ALLOWING COUNCILMAN
VIERA TO ATTEND BY CMT.
05:07:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS JOINED
US.
WE WILL BE TAKING ALL VOTES BY ROLL CALL.
OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM, WE ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING SOMETHING
THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WANTED TO HEAR.
MR. BAIRD.
05:07:54PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
GOOD EVENING, BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR
OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
IF I CAN GET THE PRESENTATION PULLED UP, PLEASE.
THANK YOU.
I'M HERE TO GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION ABOUT THE SOUTHEAST
SEMINOLE HEIGHTS FLOODING RELIEF WITH ACTION FROM LAST WEEK
WHEN WE BRIEFED YOU.
ONE OF FIVE MAJOR STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AS PART OF
THE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT APPROVED BY CITY
COUNCIL IN 2016.
CONSTRUCTION STARTED IN 2021 AND IS SCHEDULED FOR COMPLETION
IN NOVEMBER 2024.
THIS IS MAJOR CONSTRUCTION AND TAKES TIME.
A THREE-YEAR PROJECT.
I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE RESIDENTS' CONCERNS.
THEY HAD FIVE MAIN CONCERNS.
THE WORK ZONE LITTER HAS BEEN PROBABLY OUR NUMBER ONE
COMPLAINT AS MANY OF YOU KNOW.
STICKING UP AND WHAT WE WILL DO AROUND THE OUTFALL
STRUCTURE.
WEST CREST AVENUE RESTORATION.
COMMUNICATIONS IN GENERAL.
AND, OF COURSE, THE FLORIDA AVENUE CLOSURE THAT WE HAVE
RECENTLY -- RECENTLY CLOSED FLORIDA AVENUE.
FIRST, LET ME ADDRESS THE LITTER PICKUP.
WE HAVE INSTITUTED A TWICE-A-WEEK PICKUP.
ONCE AFTER LUNCH AND ONCE AT THE END OF EACH WORKDAY WITH A
FULL WORK AROUND IN ALL FOUR SITES THAT ARE ACTIVE RIGHT
NOW.
THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE MUST AND WILL DO BETTER.
I WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SECONDLY, THE OUTFALL STRUCTURE.
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
THIS OUTFALL STRUCTURE IS 27 FEET X 27 FEET X 13.5-FEET
DEEP.
A BAFFLE BOX AND HAS TRASH COLLECTOR SCREENS TO COLLECT THE
TRASH, BECAUSE THE BASIN IS RATHER LARGE.
IT GOES ALL THE WAY EAST OF THE INTERSTATE.
SO FOR STARTERS, WE WILL CERTAINLY PAINT IT GRASS GREEN TO
MATCH THE, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING AROUND IT.
AND BLEND IN.
WE ARE GOING TO -- YOU KNOW, IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO
STICK UP 12 INCHES TO PREVENT AUTOMOBILES FROM -- FROM
PULLING UP ON IT BECAUSE OF THE -- THE LIDS ARE NOT DESIGNED
FOR THAT KIND OF LOADING.
BUT WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THAT AND BRING IT UP ANOTHER SIX
INCHES.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FINISH IT OFF WITH LANDSCAPING.
AND SO THE LANDSCAPING, YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE OF -- OF
WHAT'S CALLED PINK MULEY GRASS AND INSIDE AS WELL THAT WE
WILL PUT AROUND THE STRUCTURE TO HELP SOFTEN IT.
AND THEN WE TALKED TO OUR ART FOLKS OF PUTTING SOME POSSIBLE
ARTWORK ON THE RIVER FACE TO ALSO, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT LOOK
NOR AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
THERE IS NOT A LOT OF CONCRETE BASE TO THAT STRUCTURE.
WE WILL SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING THERE.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE -- WE WILL ALSO HAVE BOLLARDS INSTALLED
IN FRONT OF THAT AT THE END OF THE DRIVE WITH A CHAIN
ACROSS.
SO THE WEST CREST RESTORATION, IN PARTICULAR THE 300 BLOCK,
ARE THOSE RESIDENTS WHO ENDURED THE MOST.
YOU CAN SEE WITH THE PICTURE THERE THAT WE HAD TO RELOCATE
TWO SANITARY SEWERS, A WATER LINE BEFORE WE COULD PUT IN THE
BOX CULVERT WHICH IS INCLUDING THE WALL IS ACTUALLY AN 8 X 5
BOX CULVERT.
LARGE SECTIONS OF CONCRETE CULVERT.
WE WERE WAITING -- WE WERE HOPING TO SAVE TWO GRAND TREES
THAT WERE LOCATED IN THIS SECTION OF CREST.
WE WERE NOT ABLE TO SAVE THEM.
SO WE HAD TO GET A PERMIT TO REMOVE THEM TO BUILD A CURB.
THAT IS WHY WE HAD DELAY WITH THAT CURB THERE.
WE DID GET THAT PERMIT LAST FRIDAY, I AM PLEASED TO SAY.
AND -- AND THE ARBORIST IS GOING TO REMOVE THE TREES AND WE
WILL START WORK TOMORROW, WEATHER PERMITTING BECAUSE WE GOT
A LOT OF RAIN IN THE FORECAST.
SO -- AND THEN COMPLETED ON PROBABLY THE FOLLOWING MONDAY.
TO WHERE THEY CAN -- AND THEN THEY CAN START -- OR GO BACK
IN INSTALLING THE CURB AND GUTTER ON THE 300 BLOCK WITH THE
FIRST LAYER OF ASPHALT INSTALLED FOR THAT WHOLE BLOCK BY THE
END OF THIS MONTH.
THAT IS A PLAN.
SO -- AND THIS IS BETWEEN HIGHLAND AND THE RIVER.
IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH -- WITH CREST IN THAT AREA.
AND THEN CREST IN THE TWO BLOCKS BETWEEN HIGHLAND AND
FLORIDA SCHEDULED FOR THE FIRST LAYER OF ASPHALT BY THE END
OF OCTOBER.
SO WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STEP THAT UP AND WE WILL HOLD THE
CONTRACTOR TO THAT.
THE FOURTH ISSUE WE HEARD WAS TO IMPROVE COMMUNICATIONS.
THE CITY WILL BE ADDING ITEMS TO THE SCOPE TO DO JUST THAT
WITH OUR PUBLIC RELATIONS FIRM.
THE NAME OF THE FIRM IS DIALOGUE.
SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR.
YESTERDAY, NELSON CONSTRUCTION AND DIALOGUE WENT DOOR TO
DOOR ON CREST AVENUE AND PROVIDED DOOR HANGER INFORMATION,
AS WELL AS WAS ABLE TO TALK TO OVER HALF OF THEM PERSONALLY
OF THEIR SITUATION AND WHAT WE CAN TO DO IMPROVE THEIR
SITUATION, AS WELL AS THE BUSINESSES ON FLORIDA AVENUE.
IT WAS TIME WELL SPENT.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT.
THEY APOLOGIZED, OF COURSE, FOR THE DELAYS.
GAVE RESIDENTS A PERSONAL UPDATE.
SO TO INCREASE THE OUTREACH, THE PROJECT TEAM IS GOING TO
INCREASE THE FREQUENCY OF DOOR HANGERS TO ALL AREAS UNDER
CONSTRUCTION.
THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE FOUR -- THE THREE ADDITIONAL AREAS TO
CREST.
THIS CAN BE WEEKLY OR BIWEEKLY DEPENDING ON THE STATUS
CHANGE OF THOSE AREAS.
WE ARE OFFERING TO MEET MONTHLY WITH THE THREE NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS.
SO FAR ONE OF THEM HAS ACCEPTED FOR SEPTEMBER 22, I BELIEVE.
SO TRY INFORMAL MEETINGS ONCE A MONTH WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS.
YOU KNOW HAVE A COFFEE MEETING, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND HOPEFULLY TRANSITION TO QUARTERLY 2023.
AND WE PLAY THAT BY YEAR.
NELSON AND DIALOGUE WILL CONTINUE WORKING WITH CITY STAFF ON
SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND MONTHLY VIDEOS WHICH WE HAVE BEEN --
I THINK WE HAVE DONE FIVE VIDEOS SO FAR.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ARE WORKING WITH HILLSBOROUGH HIGH
SCHOOL TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC MEETING FOR THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER
29 AT 6:00 IN THE SCHOOL'S AUDITORIUM.
WE DO HAVE A VERBAL COMMITMENT ON THAT DATE.
WE ARE I WAITING THE PAPERWORK.
THIS TOWN MEETING WILL BE FOR ALL THE PROJECT AREA, YOU
KNOW, WHETHER IT IS EXISTING CONSTRUCTION OR FUTURE
CONSTRUCTION, NORTH OF HILLSBOROUGH OR EAST OF THE
INTERSTATE.
THEY WILL ALSO PROVIDE FREQUENT UPDATES ON THE PROJECT WEB
SITE, AT LEAST TWO PROJECT UPDATES A WEEK.
THESE GO TO EVERYONE THAT IS ON THE PROJECT TEAM'S E-MAIL
SUBSCRIBE LIST.
SO PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE RESIDENTS CALLING IN, YOU KNOW, ASK
THEM TO PLEASE SIGN UP ON THE SUBSCRIBER LIST.
I THINK WE HAVE 161 PEOPLE SO FAR.
SO -- AND THEY ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF GETTING THAT
INFORMATION ON A REGULAR BASIS.
WE HAVE BEEN AVERAGE BEING FIVE POSTS.
THEY HAD BEEN AVERAGE BEING FIVE POSTS PER MONTH, SO WE ARE
GOING TO DOUBLE THAT TO ABOUT 10 POSTS AS MONTH.
AND WE WILL UPDATE THE PROJECT SCHEDULE ON THE WEB SITE
MONTHLY AND THEN FINALLY THE LAST ITEM IS THE FLORIDA AVENUE
CLOSURE.
THIS HAS BEEN EXTENDED UNTIL DECEMBER 23 TO TAKE CARE OF
ADDED WORK.
THAT TWO-WEEK CLOSURE IS TO TAKE -- THAT TWO-WEEK ADDITIONAL
TIME IS TO TAKE CARE OF AND REPLACE 1100 FEET OF A 12-INCH
WATER MAIN THAT WE DISCOVERED WAS LESS THAN TWO FEET DEEP --
TWO FEET OF COVER.
SO IT IS A 1960s-ERA WATER LINE.
AND THE AS-BUILT SHOWED IT AT THREE FEET DEEP.
IT WAS NOT.
WHEN WE POTHOLED IT AHEAD OF DOING THIS CONSTRUCTION.
WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
BETTER TO DO IT NOW THAN FINISH THE STORM CONSTRUCTION AND
COUPLE MONTHS FROM NOW HAVE A WATER MAIN BREAK.
THE BUSINESSES CLOSEST TO THE EXCAVATION HAVE EXPRESSED
CONCERNS FOR PARKING FOR THEIR PATRONS.
IT HAS BEEN BLOCKED BY PROJECT AND NONPROJECT-RELATED
VEHICLES.
SO NELSON DID PUT A PLACARD AT THE NORTH END TO BACK IN SOME
OF THE DELIVERY TRUCKS AND BE ABLE TO TAKE THE FRONT-END
LOADER WITH THE PIPE TO THE EXCAVATION AREA, BUT WHEN WE
WALKED THE JOB YESTERDAY, WITH THE BUSINESSES AT THE SOUTH
END, THEY ASKED FOR A FLAGGER AT THE SOUTH END.
SO WE ARE GOING TO START THATTOMORROW.
SO THEY ARE PRETTY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
AND THE PROJECT TEAM IS WORK CLOSELY, OF COURSE, WITH CITY
STAFF TO CONTINUE THE TRAFFIC ADVISORIES.
THEY WILL ISSUE A TRAFFIC ADVISORY FOR THE EXTENSION AND
WITH SOCIAL MEDIA POST.
WITH THAT, I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:18:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE.
I ALSO GOT AN UPDATE FROM THE PRESIDENTS OF THE AFFECTED
AREAS SAYING THAT -- AND THIS LITERALLY CAME LAST NIGHT.
THE ACCUMULATION OF DAILY LITTER HAS NOT STOPPED.
AND I GOT A TEXT JUST 30 MINUTES AGO FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO
SAID THAT THE -- THE LITTER HAVEN'T ABATED BUT THE SAFETY
ISSUES ARE ALARMING.
I HAVE A PHOTO OF APPARENTLY TODAY.
THEY STRAPPED A COMPROMISED POWER LINE POLE TO MACHINERY
RIGHT OUTSIDE OF HER HOUSE.
I WILL SHOW YOU THE PHOTO AFTER THIS.
BUT SHE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE TYPES OF SAFETY ISSUES.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THINGS YOU HAVE DONE.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT ADDING TWO WEEKS TO THE SCOPE MAKES
THINGS MORE DIFFICULT, SO BY ADDING THE FLAGGERS, THAT WAS A
GREAT IDEA.
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.
I ALSO APPRECIATE THE HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL PUBLIC
MEETING THAT IS GOING TO OCCUR.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE ALSO CONCERNED
ABOUT IS THE EXISTING STORM DRAINS BEING CLEANED.
THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT -- THAT THEY SPECIFIED
YESTERDAY -- OR LAST NIGHT IN THE E-MAIL.
IT SAID -- IT DOESN'T SAY WHO THIS WAS FROM, BUT SOMEONE
SENT AN E-MAIL COMPLAINING OF LITTER AND THE RESPONSE WAS WE
APOLOGIZE FOR THE LITTER.
WE HAVE A CREW MEMBER SWEEPING THE ENTIRE PROJECT, BUT WE
ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CLEANING OUT THE STORM DRAINS
THROUGHOUT ALL THE AREAS OF THE AND SET ON SEPTEMBER 3.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE IN THAT, BUT CONSIDERING WE ARE
HAVING THESE -- I HEAR FIVE DAYS OF RAIN --
05:20:49PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
YES.
05:20:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM HOPING THAT WAS DONE BEFORE THIS RAIN
STARTED OR IT CAN CONTINUE TO BE DONE SO THOSE AREAS
EXPERIENCE -- EXPERIENCE LESS FLOODING.
BUT I AM -- I AM STILL NOT -- APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE
AND I THINK MAYBE IF YOU COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS SO
WE CAN GET AN UPDATE FROM THE CITIZENS ON HOW EVERYTHING IS
GOING.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY FOLKS HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON
THIS ISSUE, BUT WE COULD --
05:21:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WAS GOING TO OPEN FOR IT.
05:21:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT I MAY HAVE MORE TO SAY, BUT I KNOW
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO WANTS TO.
05:21:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:21:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
AND THANK YOU MR. BAIRD.
YOU ARE ALWAYS VERY RESPONSIVE.
IN 2016, I WAS A PAIN IN THE YOU KNOW WHAT ON THE STORMWATER
VOTE AND ENDED UP BEING THE SWING VOTE ON THE CITYWIDE
STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WHICH NOW WE ARE AT THE
SEMINOLE HEIGHTS PART.
AND YOU KNOW SOMETIMES -- AND NOT YOU OR ANYBODY IN THE
CITY, BUT SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE A BABYSITTER.
AND I AM TALKING OF THE CONTRACTOR.
I AM TALKING ABOUT THE TRASH THAT IS LEFT BEHIND.
I UNDERSTAND THAT NOW WE HAVE SOMEBODY PICKING UP THE LITTER
AT THE END OF THE DAY AND WHATNOT, BUT I DON'T -- I DON'T
THROW A TOOTHPICK OUT MY CAR WINDOW.
I DON'T LEAVE TRASH ON THE GROUND.
I HAVE A PLASTIC BOTTLE OF WATER.
I EITHER REUSE IT OR RECYCLE IT.
YOU DON'T THROW STUFF AROUND AND SAY I WILL PICK IT UP
LATER.
JUST NOT IN MY NATURE.
THESE INDIVIDUALS -- THEY ARE LEARNING EARNING A LOT OF
MONEY, $250 MILLION PROJECT.
AT LEAST THEY CAN DO IS NOT THROW TRASH ON THE GROUND.
I UNDERSTAND A CONSTRUCTION SITE BUT THIS ARE PEOPLE'S
HOUSES AND CHILDREN ARE THERE AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
AT LEAST THEY CAN TO DO PICK UP THEIR TRASH.
TO HAVE SOMEONE AROUND TO PICK UP A LITTER.
CAN'T THEY HAVE A WASTEBASKET FOR A BAG TO PUT STUFF IN.
I HOPE THEY ARE BEING CLEANER.
I KNOW THAT THE BUSINESSES ARE AFFECTED ON FLORIDA AVENUE.
I HAVE GONE THROUGH THERE.
YOU HAVE TO EITHER WALK FROM ONE OF THE SIDE STREETS.
I USUALLY PARK AT MY FRIEND'S HOUSE IN FRIARSON AND I WALK
OVER.
BUT -- YOU KNOW, THEY ARE STRUGGLING BECAUSE THESE LARGE
TRUCKS ARE PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESS FOR THE LITTLE
PARKING THEY DO VIDEO.
THE OTHER DAY MR. SPATICHI WHO OWNS SPATTI'S COFFEE.
MASSIVE TRUCKS PARKED IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESS.
I REACHED OUT TO THE CONTRACTOR NELSON PERSONALLY.
AND THE RESPONSE WAS IT WAS TRUCKS FROM FRONTIER.
I KNOW THAT FRONTIER HAS A BUILDING RIGHT THERE.
BUT THEY WEREN'T FRONTIER VEHICLES.
THEY WERE UNMARKED SEMI TRUCKS ESSENTIALLY.
I HAVE THE PHOTO PROOF HERE.
TELL ME THE TRUTH, BUT, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT THERE IS
GOING TO BE TWO FLAGGERS NOW STARTING TOMORROW.
I KNOW IT WILL BE RAINING MISERABLY THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
SO THE FLAGGER ON THE SOUTH AND NORTH END WILL HELP IN
ALLEVIATING THE BLOCKAGE OF THE PARKING.
THE TREES.
CHARLENE FROM SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS HAD ASKED ABOUT THE
PERMITS AND EVERYTHING AND I SEE THAT, WEATHER PERMITTING,
THE 9th AND THE 10th.
THAT WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF.
YOU ALREADY CLEARED THAT UP.
SPADDY'S COFFEE HAD A FACEBOOK, BLOCK PARTY ON FLORIDA
AVENUE.
I AM NOT TRYING TO BE FUNNY BUT WE THERE ARE A LOT OF
BUSINESS THERE IS WE WANT TO KEEP MONEY FLOWING IN.
THEIR RENT DOESN'T STOP.
THEIR BILLS DON'T STOP.
AND THEY HAVE TO ENDURE IN MASSIVE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TALKED ABOUT COMING BACK IN A FEW WEEKS.
AND I TRY TO BE AS RESPONSIVE AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE MEDIA IS ASKING ABOUT THIS.
I WILL CALL A REPORTER BACK WHO ASKED FOR A QUOTE AFTER
THIS.
THEY CAN'T BE HERE TODAY, BUT THEY WANT TO KNOW.
I MEAN, THIS IS PRESSING.
AT THE END OF THE DAY ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE, THAT WE
WILL BE GRATEFUL AND THANK OF THIS WAS DONE.
I KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO LOOK NICER WITH THE
NEW ASPHALT AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE CURBS AND WHATNOT,
IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE TO DO THE BEST WE CAN AND THE BEST
POSSIBLE TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.
WHAT IF IT WAS YOU OR I.
IT WOULD BE MISERY FOR THE THREE-YEAR PERIOD OR HOWEVER LONG
IT TAKES.
CLOSING FLORIDA AVENUE AND EXTENSION TO DECEMBER 23 IS A
MAJOR INCONVENIENCE.
PEOPLE THINK, OKAY, IT WILL BE DONE HERE AND MOVE THE
GOALPOST.
MOVE THE GOALPOST.
WHILE THE BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS ARE SUFFERING.
AGAIN, THANK YOU.
YOU ARE ALWAYS VERY RESPONSIVE.
YOU HAVE YOU A GREAT TEAM WITH YOU.
NO CRITICISM TO YOU.
EVERY CONTRACTOR IS DIFFERENT.
YOU KNOW WHEN IT WAS KIMMONS, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY.
AND THAT WAS RIGHT ON WEST SHORE, VERY, VERY BUSY AREA.
WITH NELSON -- WITH THE AMOUNT OF TAX DOLLARS BEING SPENT ON
THIS, WE EXPECT BETTER.
BETTER QUALITY OF SERVICE AND RESPECT TO EVERYBODY THERE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:26:09PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THANK YOU.
05:26:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:26:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE OTHER THING THE -- THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD
PRESIDENTS ASKED FOR ME TO PASS ALONG TO YOU IS THEY GOT A
COPY OF THE CONTRACT AND THEY FEEL THERE ARE AREAS WHERE
NELSON IS NOT FOLLOWING THROUGH.
I CAN HAVE KELLY BRING YOU A COPY OF THAT E-MAIL OR SEND IT
TO YOU.
I DID SPEAK TO MISS DUNCAN YESTERDAY ABOUT REACHING OUT
TO FDOT AND SEEING WHAT HAS HAPPENED, HOW THEY ARE ABLE TO
MANAGE THEIR COMMUNICATION HONESTLY SO AS WELL.
DIFFERENCE OF THE TONE WITH THIS MEETING AND THE SOUTH
SEMINOLE HEIGHTSED INTO RELIEF AND BOTH OLD AND SOUTH
SEMINOLE HEIGHTS VERSUS THE FDOT MEET WAS NIGHT AND DAY.
I ASKED HER TO REACH OUT AND TO GET FEEDBACK IN THE NEXT
COUPLE OF WEEKS.
I WOULD LIKE -- I WOULD LIKE THIS TO COME BACK INCOME TWO
WEEKS.
THE WEEK BEFORE YOU HAVE THIS HILLSBOROUGH HIGH MEETING.
SINCE WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL COUNCIL MEETING THAT DAY, SO
WE CAN GET AN UPDATE ON THIS BEFORE GOING INTO THAT MEETING.
JUST TO SEE, TO GIVE -- TO GIVE NELSON APPEAR CHANCE TO GET
START WITH THIS.
BUT WE REALLY -- WE REALLY WANT TO HEAR POSITIVE THINGS
ABOUT LITTER AND POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT THE TRUCKS.
AGAIN I THINK THE FLAGGING SITUATION IS WONDERFUL -- IS A
GREAT IDEA.
BUT WE WILL BE REACHING OUT BOTH COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND I
ARE DIRECT CONDUITS.
SO WE WILL BE REACHING OUT WHEN WE HEAR OF OTHER CONCERNS.
BUT -- SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS COME BACK
TO US ON THE 22.
05:28:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HOW ABOUT 22 -- NOT IN THE EVENING
SESSION, BUT WE HAVE A WORKSHOP AT 9 A.M.
THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA SINCE THIS HAS TAKEN A FEW
MINUTES AND WE CAN GO RIGHT INTO OUR AGENDA AND START ON OUR
DAY.
BUT I WILL SECOND THAT.
YES, MA'AM.
OUR WORKSHOP.
05:28:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OUR WORKSHOP DAY.
05:28:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS IS, WHAT, MAYBE 15 MINUTES.
05:28:35PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
I THINK ABOUT THE SAME.
05:28:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
I KNOW THE CITIZENS WOULD AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW IF ONE WEEK IS ENOUGH TIME.
I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWERS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE BEEN
ABLE TO SEE DRASTIC CHANGE IN THIS TIME.
I WOULD REALLY LOVE IT IF THERE IS A HUGE LITTER CLEANUP
BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
05:28:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
BUT FIRST, SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, I WOULD LIKE TO
OPEN UP COMMENTS.
05:29:08PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
IT IS STAFF REPORT SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO
WAIVE THE RULES.
05:29:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SOMEBODY WAIVE THE RULES.
05:29:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.
05:29:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
05:29:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
NOW BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
TO THIS AGENDA ITEM ONLY.
ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA
ITEM?
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:29:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST ONE QUICK COMMENT RESPONDING TO
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS DOING COMMUNICATION BEFORE BUT THE FIRM
THEY MENTIONED JUST HIRED IS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE REGION.
HOPEFULLY --
05:30:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHO HAS BEEN ON THE JOB.
THAT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD.
05:30:05PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:30:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
CAN YOU SEND THIS PRESENTATION TO ME.
AND --
05:30:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SEND THIS PRESENTATION TO ALL OF US, PLEASE.
05:30:17PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THE WHOLE CITY COUNCIL.
05:30:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
I APPRECIATE IT.
I CAN FORWARD IT TO THE -- TO THE PRESIDENTS AND OTHER
STAKEHOLDERS, THANK YOU.
05:30:26PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THANK YOU.
05:30:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
05:30:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, BUT WE CAN'T SEE YOU.
WHERE ARE YOU AT?
THERE YOU ARE.
05:30:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THERE TIME.
JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW, THANK YOU.
05:30:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS BARNES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO THROUGH
THE AGENDA REVIEW?
05:30:56PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
SOME ITEMS TO CLEAN UP FOR YOU TONIGHT.
THE FIRST ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS ALSO RELATED TO
ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
ITEM NUMBER 2, IS TA/CPA 22-09.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO BE HEARD
SEPTEMBER 22, 2022 AT 5:01 P.M. IN ADDITION ITEM NUMBER 5
IS REZ 22-14.
THE PETITION WAS NOT PROPERLY NOTICED.
AND THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
05:31:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO CONTINUE
FILE NUMBER TA-CPA 22-09 TO SEPTEMBER 22 AT 5:01.
05:31:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
05:31:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS WELLS, COULD YOU PLEASE SPEAK TO
CHAPTER 27/150 SECTION D.
05:32:03PM >>CATE WELLS:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR THE RECORD.
I HAVE BEEN ASKED RECENTLY WITH RESPECT OF MISNOTICED THAT
CITY COUNCIL PUT ON THE AGENDA WHAT THE CITY CAN DO ABOUT
IT.
I WANT TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION A PROVISION ON
CHAPTER 27.
IT IS AS MR. CHAIRMAN MENTIONED 27-150, SUBSECTIONS D.
AND READ IT IN ITS ENTIRETY.
SAYS WHERE AN APPLICANT FILING AN APPLICATION FOR REZONING
PROPERTY FAILS TO NOT FILE THE APPLICATION ON TIME AND FAIL
FOR THE REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN THIS CHAPTER SO THAT THE
PETITIONER WILL NOT BE HEARD AT THE SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING
AND ANY OF THE FOREGOING ACTS OR ADMISSIONS OCCUR FOR THE
TWO CONSECUTIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED FOR THE SUBJECT
PETITION, THEN KNOW NEW AMENDED OF THE SAME PROPERTY WILL BE
HEARD FOR A MINIMUM PERIOD FOR SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF
THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING.
AND SPECIFICALLY SCHEDULED FOR THE PETITION AND OR PROPERTY.
SOME WHAT THIS MEANS.
AND YOU WILL BE HEARING THIS FROM STAFF MOVING FORWARD AS
YOU SEE A MISNOTICED ON THE AGENDA.
IN THE EVENT THE MISNOTICE IS A SECOND TIME THAT THE HEARING
FOR THAT ONE APPLICATION HAS MISNOTICED, WE WILL ADVISE
COUNCIL THAT UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION, THE
APPLICANT SHOULD BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE AGENDA UNDER THIS
SECTION, AND THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO WAIT SIX MONTHS TO
FILE A NEW APPLICATION IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD.
WITH REGARD TO MISNOTICES, STAFF IS WORKING WITH THE CLERK'S
OFFICE AND APPLICANTS TO ADVISE THEM CONSISTENTLY OF THE
CODE SO THEY UNDERSTAND THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE MISNOTICE,
AND WE ARE ALSO TAKING STEPS TO AVOID MISNOTICES TO THE
EXTENT POSSIBLE THAT THE PERSON WHO PREPARES THE NOTICE AND
HAS TO FILE THE AFFIDAVIT OF COMPLIANCE, THEIR ACTIONS ARE
OUT OF CONTROL.
WE ARE OFFERING TO APPLICANTS.
STAFF HAS BEEN IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHOW US THE AFFIDAVIT
AND THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION BEFORE THE FILING DEADLINE
WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO THE EXTENT IF THERE IS AN ERROR
THAT CAN BE CORRECTED AND AVOID A MISNOTICE, WE CAN WORK
WITH THE APPLICANTS TO ACHIEVE THAT.
SO I AM HOPING THAT WITH THOSE EFFORTS AND EVERYBODY
UNDERSTANDING THE CONSEQUENCES OF TWO MISNOTICES THAT WE
WON'T SEE AS MANY MISNOTICED APPLICATIONS AS WE HAVE
RECENTLY.
05:34:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:34:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MISS WELLS, I KNOW ONCE WE START TO
IMPLEMENT THIS, WE HAVE TO DO THIS IN A VERY CONSISTENT WAY
AND IN A FAIR WAY TO DO IT WITH EVERYBODY AND DON'T MAKE
EXCEPTIONS BECAUSE IT WOULD SEEM IT IS ARBITRARY.
MY QUESTION IS MORE ABOUT THE START DATE.
I HAVE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS SUBJECT BEFORE, BUT I DIDN'T
KNOW WE WERE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THIS TODAY.
I DON'T -- IF YOU THINK WE HAVE GIVEN SUFFICIENT NOTICE THAT
THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT THAT WE STARTED TODAY, WE COULD,
BUT THE OTHER OPTION IS TO MAKE A STATEMENT TODAY THAT AS OF
THE FIRST OCTOBER MEETING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SEPTEMBER
15, THAT WE ARE GOING TO START STRICTLY ENFORCE THIS.
05:35:34PM >>CATE WELLS:
I KNOW THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE
AND HE CAN ADDRESS THAT FOR YOU.
05:35:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO WE DON'T DO IT IN AN ARBITRARY WAY, WHAT
WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATION BE WHEN THE START DATE IS.
05:35:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IF I MAY, MISS WELLS.
THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN IN OUR BOOKS.
05:35:54PM >>CATE WELLS:
THIS SECTION OF THE CODE EXISTS.
AND NOT UNTIL RECENTLY THAT WE HAD THE ISSUE WITH -- THE
SAME APPLICATION, MISNOTICING MORE THAN ONCE.
SO STAFF HAS BEEN MONITORING THAT.
05:36:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT WHAT IS THE PROPER
START DATE.
IT HAS BEEN THERE AND WE HAVEN'T USED IT.
SO WHAT IS THE PROPER NOTICE TO GIVE TO APPLICANTS.
05:36:16PM >>CATE WELLS:
ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, THIS IS THE ONLY
APPLICATION THAT HAS MISNOTICED MORE THAN ONCE AND I KNOW
MR. BRICKLEMYER WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.
HE FEELS THERE ARE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES AND I WILL LET
HIM ADDRESS THAT.
05:36:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION THAT WE SHOULD START
TODAY OR PUBLICLY ANNOUNCE --
05:36:37PM >>CATE WELLS:
I DON'T THINK THE CITY WILL ANNOUNCE THAT THEY
HAVE TO ENFORCE THEIR BOOKS.
05:36:43PM >>BILL CARLSON:
A LOT OF FOLKS --
05:36:46PM >>CATE WELLS:
I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT IT HAVEN'T BEEN
IMPLEMENTED.
05:36:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THIS -- THIS
COUNCIL HAS -- HAS HAD A RULE.
WE HAVE 15 CASES IN A NIGHT.
AND I THINK THAT WAS BROUGHT ON BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
NOW WE ALSO HAVE DEVELOPERS AND OTHER PEOPLE AND CITIZENS
THAT WANT TO GET THEIR HEARINGS HEARD.
IF WE ONLY HAVE 15 CASES PER EVENING SESSION, AND WE HAVE
REPEATED MISNOTICES, MISNOTICES OR WITHDRAWN.
PEOPLE WAITING TO GET ON CAN'T GET ON.
I THINK IT IS -- I THINK IT IS UNFAIR TO THE PEOPLE WHO
REALLY WANT TO BE HEARD AND WANT THEIR CASES TO BE HEARD IN
A TIMELY MANNER.
05:37:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AGREE WITH ALL THAT.
AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT CAME UP WITH THE SOLUTION.
I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THE SAME THING.
WHEN DO WE START IT.
OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE START TODAY.
05:37:39PM >>CATE WELLS:
YES, SIR.
IF I MAY -- NO, SIR THAT WE ARE STARTING THIS.
THIS HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS.
IT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED.
NOT UNTIL WE -- THE FIRST MISNOTICE DOESN'T TRIGGER ANY
REPERCUSSIONS.
IT IS THE SECOND.
YOU ARE NOW STARTING TO SEE IS THE SECOND MISNOTICES.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE BRINGING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
SO I -- I AM -- I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE HAS TO BE A DELAY
IN IMPLEMENTATION FOR A SECTION OF THE CODE THAT HAS BEEN IN
EXISTENCE AND APPLICANTS AND THEIR CONSULTING TEAMS SHOULD
BE AWARE OF IT.
WITH REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 5, MR. BRICKLEMYER WOULD LIKE TO
ADDRESS COUNCIL.
HE FEELS THERE ARE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES.
05:38:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LET ME SAY THIS BEFORE WE START.
YOU ARE RIGHT.
BEEN HERE 10 AND 15 YEARS.
SOME COUNCILS BACK MADE THAT AND USED TO BE ENFORCED.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE CASES BUT WENT FROM SECOND TIME AND
WAIT SIX MONTHS OR REAPPLY NOT A HAND SLAP BUT YOU ARE
TAKING SOMEONE'S SPOT AND THAT SHOULDN'T BE.
I UNDERSTAND CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND SOMEONE'S CONTROL.
I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.
WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT GETTING IN JUST TO GET
A DATE WHEN YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO SHOW THE WHOLE PLAN TO
EVERYONE.
THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
NOT START IT.
AND REKINDLING IT.
05:39:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IF I MAY, MR. BRICKLEMYER.
WANT TO SPEAK TO ITEM ABOUT THE MISNOTICE.
THAT'S CORRECT?
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS YOU ARE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE
ON NUMBER TWO.
05:39:33PM >> YES, SIR.
05:39:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF ANYONE IN CHAMBERS
WHO WOULD WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT CONTINUANCE.
JUST FOR THE RECORD.
ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO A CONTINUANCE
ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, FILE NUMBER TA-CPA 22-09?
SEEING NONE.
MR. BRICKLEMYER.
05:39:53PM >> SO THE REASON THERE IS NO ONE IN CHAMBERS, MR. CHAIRMAN,
WE HAVE WORKED EXTENSIVELY.
I WAS READY TO GO TO HEARING ON THIS IN APRIL.
I WAS SET FOR HEARING IN MARCH.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAME BACK AND TOLD US WE HAD A
PROBLEM ON APRIL 7.
I HAVE ALL THESE DATES BURNED IN MY HEAD BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN
DEALING WITH THIS FOR THE PAST FEW DAYS NOW.
I REACHED OUT AND ASKED THE CITY WHAT I NEEDED TO DO.
CITY STAFF TOLD ME WHAT I NEEDED TO DO.
MR. MANISCALCO GOT A LETTER ON APRIL 12 ASKING FOR A
CONTINUANCE.
APARRENTLY -- AND I HAVE BEEN PRACTICING HERE FOR A
WHILE.
I WILL BLAME COVID, I DON'T KNOW, APPARENTLY THE SYSTEM YOU
HAVE IN PLACE IS -- I AM SET ON MARCH 28.
THE DEADLINE -- THAT IS FOR THE MAY 12 HEARING.
THE DEADLINE TO NOTICE THAT HEARING WAS APRIL 12.
I HAD MY NOTICE READY TO GO.
I WAS INSTRUCTED BY STAFF TO SEND A LETTER.
IF WE ARE TRYING TO NOTICE THE PUBLIC, AND THIS IS JUST ME
WORKING IN MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS, MAKES NO SENSE FOR ME TO
POST A SIGN AND SEND A LETTER TO SOMEBODY THAT WE WILL HAVE
A HEARING ON MAY 12 THAT I KNOW ON APRIL 12 WE ARE NOT
HAVING.
THAT IS MISLEADING.
I DIDN'T SEND LETTERS AND DIDN'T SEND A SIGN.
STAFF DIDN'T TELL ME TO DO THAT.
TWO DAYS LATER SENT A LET TO THEN CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
MISS WELLS TOLD ME I MISNOTICE.
SHE AND I HAD A CONVERSATION.
I DID NOT MISNOTICE.
I CONTINUED.
NOT UNDER OUR CODE.
FINE.
I SAID NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT NOW.
RIGHT.
I WON'T SEND YOUR CONFUSING, MISLEADING NOTICE THAT WOULD
HAVE HELPED NO ONE AS THE TIME.
BY THE WAY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHEN THEY CAME US TO ON
THE 7th OF APRIL AND SAID WE HAVE A PROBLEM, THE SOLUTION OF
THE PROBLEM WAS GOING TO COST TWO GRAND TREES.
WE WORKED VERY HARD TO GET NO OTHER THAN THE SOUTH OF GANDY
FOLKS TO SUPPORT OUR PROJECT.
WE SAID, HEY, THIS IS AN ISSUE.
IT IS GOING TO COST US TWO TREES TO GO HEARING IN APRIL.
THEY SAID WE WILL SEE YOU WITH PITCHFORBES.
YOU ARE SAVING THOSE TREES.
HELL OR HIGH WATER.
WE SAID DULY NOTED.
WE ARE GOING TO DO A SMALL COMP PLAN AMENDMENT ON OUR OWN
AND EAT FIVE MONTHS OF TIME AND A BUNCH OF MONEY AND EFFORT
JUST TO SAVE THOSE TWO TREES TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAPPY.
WE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS.
ME AND STAFF.
I SET UP A ZOOM MEETING WITH PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF AND
ZONING STAFF TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE GOING TO MARCH THESE
ITEMS TOGETHER TO IT BE HEARD TONIGHT.
WE WERE TRYING TO HEAR THEM IN AUGUST.
ENDED UP SEPTEMBER 8.
WHEN THE E-MAIL CAME OUT, THE E-MAIL FROM STAFF WAS 30
MEGABYTES.
I NEVER GOT IT.
IT WAS TOO BIG.
STAFF TELLS ME THEY DID NOT GET AN E-MAIL BOUNCE BACK THAT
TOLD THEM THAT HAD BEEN TOO LARGE.
I HAD CHECKED TODAY.
THE LAST FEW OF THE PEOPLE IN MY OFFICE WHO HAVE RECEIVED
THESE THINGS ARE NO MORE THAN 3 MB.
I DON'T KNOW WHY I GOT A 30 MB.
WE WENT BACK WHERE IT WAS QUARANTINED IN OUR SYSTEM AND HAD
EVERY SINGLE APPLICATION AND ALL THE BACKUP ATTACHED TO IT
WHICH IS WHY IT WAS 30 MBS.
I GOT NO INDICATION THAT THEY GOT IT.
I HAD MY WIFE SEND ME A 30 MB E-MAIL AND GOT AN E-MAIL BACK
THAT SAID IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH.
I TALKED TO PREVIOUS STAFFS WHO SAY WHEN WE SENT OUT THOSE
E-MAILS AND THEY WERE TOO LARGE, WE WOULD GET SOME
INDICATION.
I HAVE BEEN TOLD THEY GOT NO INDICATION.
I TAKE THEM AT THEIR WORD.
I LIKE EVERYBODY TO MY LEFT THAT I WORK WITH.
I AM NOT EXCITED HERE TELLING YOU ABOUT ANY OF THIS, BUT TO
BE TOLD -- I AM PROPERLY NOTICED FOR SEPTEMBER 22 TO BE
HEARD.
I WAS PROPERLY NOTICED TO BE HEARD TONIGHT ON THE COMP PLAN.
THEY TOLD ME I MISNOTICED BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET THE NOTICE
E-MAIL AND THAT IS THE WAY THE CITY WORKS.
IF I FILE SOMETHING IN THE COUNTY, I FILE BY MAY WHATEVER.
I KNOW MY HEARING IS NOVEMBER WHATEVER.
I KNOW MY NOTICE IS OCTOBER WHATEVER.
HERE YOU WAIT FOR AN E-MAIL.
CITY STAFF SENDS YOU AN E-MAIL.
I HAVE AN ITEM SUPPOSED TO BE HEARD IN OCTOBER, I HAD NOT
HAD THAT E-MAIL YET AND NOTICE DEADLINE IS 9:13.
DO YOU THINK AFTER THIS I AM SENDING TWO E-MAILS A DAY TO
STAFF.
I AM.
WHERE IS MY STUFF.
YOU HAVEN'T TOLD ME I CAN NOTICE YET.
PEOPLE ARE GETTING ONE AND TWO DAYS TO POST SIGNS AND
GETTING NOTICE OUT.
SOME OF THESE NOTICES ARE HUGE.
A LOT OF WORK.
THIS WAS -- I AM NOT SAYING IT IS ANYBODY'S FAULT.
IF THE E-MAIL WAS TOO BIG ON THE SECOND MISNOTICE, THE
SECOND MISNOTICE.
I DON'T CALL THAT A MISNOTICE.
MISS WELLS INDICATED THAT THE CITY CALLS THIS A MISNOTICE,
FINE.
FOR THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY TO HAVE MY CLIENTS WHO
SPECIFICALLY FOR FOUR MONTHS OF TIME TO MAKE SURE THEY
ACCOMMODATED A NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I WAS IN FRONT OF YOU
SEPTEMBER 22 I WAS HERE WITH THE SUPPORT OF THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS EXCEEDINGLY RARE, AS YOU ARE AWARE,
THAT WE WOULD BE ALL SET.
AND TO FIND OUT DAYS BEFORE THIS HEARING WHERE I WAS COMING
TO CONTINUE, THAT I HAD MULTIPLE MISNOTICED WHICH A RULE
THAT I WILL TELL YOU NEVER HEARD OF.
I UNDERSTAND IT IS ON THE BOOKS.
I GET IT.
I AM IMAGINING.
AND MR. MIRANDA WAS PROBABLY HERE WHEN THEY CREATED THE
RULE.
MY GUESS IS IT WASN'T INTENDED TO CATCH ME IN THIS
SITUATION.
IT WASN'T INTENDED TO BE PUT IN TO GET PEOPLE WHO DID THE
BEST THEY COULD AND SAID, I AM THE ONE BY THE WAY FOR
TONIGHT, I WROTE -- I SAID I HAVEN'T SEEN MY PACKAGE.
WHERE IS THE PACKAGE SETTING ME FOR NOTICE AND ALL OF A
SUDDEN, MUST HAVE BEEN TOO BIG.
I DIDN'T GET A CALL.
SO THOSE ARE THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT MISS WELLS
WAS TALKING ABOUT.
I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD DO WHATEVER TO WAIVE THE
SIX-MONTH BAN BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT IS WARRANTED IN THIS
CASE.
05:45:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AM NOT SPEAKING FOR THE CONTINUANCE AGENDA
ITEM TA/CPA 22-09.
THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE CONTINUING.
05:45:58PM >> I AM CONTINUING THAT, YES.
WE DON'T OPEN NUMBER 5, SO I HAVE NO ABILITY TO SPEAK TO IT.
05:46:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WAS ASKING --
05:46:06PM >> CORRECT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BOTH ITEMS HEARD SEPTEMBER
22.
05:46:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE ARE GOING ON THE CONTINUANCE FIRST.
05:46:14PM >> I UNDERSTAND.
05:46:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I HAVE RECEIVED WORD THAT WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE
WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO CONTINUANCE, EXCUSE ME THAT ARE WITH US
ONLINE.
MISS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
ARE YOU THERE?
05:46:26PM >> YES, I AM.
CAN YOU SEE ME.
05:46:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PLEASE PROCEED.
05:46:30PM >> HI, MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT, LIFE-LONG RESIDENT.
I ASK YOU TO PLEASE, PLEASE GRANT THIS CONTINUANCE.
THIS GROUP HAS ACTUALLY TRIED VERY HARD TO WORK WITH THE
NEIGHBORHOODS.
THEY ENCOUNTER A PROBLEM.
IT WAS A LAST -- SEEMED LIKE A LAST-MINUTE THING.
THEY WERE TOLD THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR SITE
PLAN ON A TECHNICAL.
I WON'T BORE YOU WITH.
AND THAT IS GOING TO CAUSED LOST OF OUR GRAND TREES.
AND YOU KNOW, I GOT INVOLVED.
WE TALKED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE GOT IT WORKED OUT.
WE FIGURED OUT HOW HE COULD SAVE THE GRAND TREES AND NOT
HAVE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY BIT THE BULLET AND SACRIFICED THE MONTHS
OF TIME IT WAS GOING TO TAKE TO SAVE THESE TREES.
I DON'T LIKE TO SPEAK TO OTHER PEOPLE, BUT IT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS IN THE
AREA SUPPORT THEM BECAUSE OF THE EXTRA EFFORTS THAT THEY
MADE TO COMMUNICATE WITH US AND SAVE THE TREES.
SO I AM ASKING TO YOU PLEASE, PLEASE GRANT THE CONTINUANCE
AND HEAR BOTH OF THESE ON THE 22nd.
AND I WOULD BE COMING IN PERSON TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THESE
ON THE 22nd EXCEPT I AM GOING TO BE IN SEATTLE.
SO I WILL BE WRITING YOU A LETTER SUPPORTING BOTH OF THESE
-- THESE ITEMS FOR THIS -- FOR THIS GROUP.
THANK YOU.
05:47:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
MISS STEPHANIE POYNOR, ARE YOU THERE?
05:47:54PM >> YES, SIR.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
05:47:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MA'AM.
05:47:57PM >> OKAY.
I HAVE NOTED ON MY DESK -- I HAVE MY GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICES
AND THIS HAS TAUGHT ME A LESSON.
I AM GOING TO WRITE THE POSTMARK DATE ON THIS AND FLAGGER
GASTED TODAY THAT IT SAID MISNOTICE ON THERE.
BECAUSE I KNOW I HAVE HAD THIS NOTICED FOR WEEKS.
AND JUST LIKE CARROLL ANNE SAID, THESE FOLKS HAVE WORKED
REALLY HARD WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET US A PROJECT THAT
WAS WORTHY.
THIS PLACE ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE AN ABANDONED HORROR MOVIE.
AND THEY WANT TO PUT SOMETHING NICE IN THERE.
AND IT IS BACKING UP TO SOMETHING THAT LOOKS VERY SIMILAR, A
TOWN HOUSE PROJECT.
AND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY HAD ANY
CONTROL OVER.
AND NORMALLY I AM ALL OVER PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTING LIKE
CIRCUS CLOWNS AND NOT DOING WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.
BUT I DON'T THINK THESE FOLKS DONE THIS PURPOSEFULLY IN ANY
WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
LIKE I SAID I WROTE A NOTE -- I SENT AN E-MAIL ON THE 19th,
BUT NOT SURE WHEN I RECEIVED THE NOTICE BUT I RECEIVED
MULTIPLE NOTICES ABOUT THIS PROPERTY AND FLOORED TO SEE
ANYTHING ABOUT A MISNOTICE.
PLEASE ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE IT UNTIL THAT DATE THEY ARE
REQUESTING.
05:49:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
05:49:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR SEPTEMBER 22, AND
GIVES US TIME TO HEAR EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
WE ARE HEARING TWO SIDES AND THEY ARE BOTH CORRECT AND WE
ARE HEARING DIFFERENT THINGS.
I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE PROBLEM IS SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT
DOESN'T HAPPEN.
WE STOP THE PROCESS, EVERYBODY IS HAPPY.
I WANT TO START THE PROCESS OF WHO DID AND WHO THAT.
AND THE RAMBLE STOPS.
YOU HAVE A LEAKY FAUCET, CALL THE PLUMBER.
05:49:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES AND THEN COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:49:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
05:49:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SUPPORTING WHAT YOU SAID, MR. MIRANDA.
MR. BRICKLEMYER SAYS THE COUNTY HAS A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING
BUSINESS.
IF THEY HAVE A WAY TO DO BUSINESS AND IT IS BETTER, MAYBE WE
NEED TO RESEARCH WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AS
WELL.
BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK AS WELL.
05:50:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
05:50:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
ASIDE FROM THE ISSUES THAT MISS BENNETT AND MISS POYNOR
TALKED ABOUT, THE ACTION OF THE APPLICANT, IT WOULD APPEAR
TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, THE -- THE PURPOSE OF THIS RULE, WHICH
I SUPPORT ENFORCING WITH NOTICE -- WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL
IT, MAY NOT BE APPLICABLE HERE, FROM WHAT I SEE.
JUST FOR WHATEVER THAT COUNTS, YOU KNOW FOR THE CONTINUANCE.
BUT -- BUT I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY, YOU KNOW, WASTING OF
TIME, ETC., ETC., FROM WHAT I SEE.
THIS IS NOTHING AGAINST YOU, STAFF.
MAYBE A MISTAKE WAS MADE.
MAYBE IT WASN'T.
I DON'T KNOW.
BUT IT WOULD JUST APPEAR IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS
APPLICABLE TO THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION AND WHATNOT.
MY OPINION.
THANK YOU.
05:51:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:51:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM READY TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE
THIS UNTIL SEPTEMBER 22.
AND WE WILL GET TO NUMBER 5 WHEN WE DO.
05:51:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:51:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NOT GOING TO --
05:51:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WAS GOING TO TAKE YOUR MOTION.
05:51:21PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MISS WELLS, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION PLEASE.
SO THE ISSUE OF LARGE FILES.
MAYBE WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THIS IN THE 22.
THE ISSUE OF LARGE FILES.
I NEVER USED ACELA.
BUT A PLACE IN ACELA WHERE ALL THIS IS POSTED.
A WEB SITE WHERE APPLICANT CAN GO IN AND THE PUBLIC CAN GO
IN AND LOOK AT WHERE THE FORMS ARE.
05:51:46PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
YES.
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
HE IS REFERRING TO THE CERTIFIED APPLICATION AND THEY ARE
ALL IN ACELA.
05:51:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AND --
05:51:56PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
GO AHEAD.
05:51:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY QUESTION TO MISS WELLS.
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT NUMBER 5 THAN NUMBER 2.
05:52:07PM >>CATE WELLS:
THAT'S CORRECT.
05:52:08PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHATEVER WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST WE WILL
MAKE SURE WE STRICTLY ENFORCE THIS RULE.
I WILL ASK YOU THE SAME THING FOR NUMBER 5 AS I DO FOR
NUMBER 2.
IF WE CONTINUE THIS, ARE WE SETTING ANY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT
OR IS THE FACT THAT THERE WAS -- THAT -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT
REASON WE USED THE MISCOMMUNICATION, IS THAT AN OKAY
PRECEDENTS TO SET?
HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE THIS.
05:52:32PM >>CATE WELLS:
CERTAINLY, WITH REGARD TO ITEM 5, NOT A
REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE BECAUSE OF THE TECHNICAL MISNOTICE.
IT HAS ALREADY BEEN SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 22.
WHAT YOU HEARD FROM MR. BRICKLEMYER IS THAT THEY HAVE SENT
THE NOTICE OUT, AND THAT MIGHT BE THE NOTICE THAT
STEPHANIE POYNOR MENTIONED.
I THINK YOU HAVE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES HERE TO ALLOW
COUNCIL TO NOT CONSIDER THIS A MISNOTICE THAT WOULD TRIGGER
THE LANGUAGE IN SECTION 27-150.
05:53:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FOR BOTH.
05:53:03PM >>CATE WELLS:
ITEM NUMBER 2, NO ISSUE.
JUST A SIMPLE REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE.
05:53:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
05:53:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS MALONE, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
05:53:14PM >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE FOR THE RECORD.
CATE WELLS JUST STATED IT.
JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE ITEM NUMBER 2 OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT WAS PROPERLY
NOTICED.
I TRIPLE CHECKED.
THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE.
THANK YOU.
05:53:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
AND THE -- THE COMMENTARIES THAT I HAD WAS THE MISNOTICES OR
COMING IN WITHOUT BEING READY TO HAVE THE CASE HEARD,
WHETHER WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE LINED UP BEHIND US AND THEY
ARE SAYING, I CAN'T GET HEARD.
I CAN'T GET HEARD.
I CAN'T GET MY PROPERTIES DONE.
BECAUSE WE HAVE 15 CASES A NIGHT.
AND LIKE TONIGHT, THERE ARE FIVE MISNOTICES.
THAT IS TAKING UP THE TIME OF COUNCIL.
TAKING UP THE TIME OF THE CITIZENS.
SO WE ARE JUST TALKING NOW OF THE CONTINUANCE ON ITEM NUMBER
2.
A MOTION WAS MADE.
05:54:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND --
05:54:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:54:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES
05:54:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
05:54:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
05:54:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
05:54:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
05:54:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
05:54:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
05:54:28PM >>Clerk:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:54:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS BARNES, WE CAN CONTINUE NOW.
WE CONTINUED NUMBER 2.
05:54:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE NUMBER 5.
WE DON'T NEED TO CONTINUE IT FIRST.
05:54:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA ITEM AND TALK OF
THE WITHDRAWALS AND THE MISNOTICES.
05:54:46PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 5, REZ 22-14.
CAN YOU PLEASE REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA.
05:54:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM 5.
05:55:02PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
CORRECT FOR 9/22.
05:55:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
FOR NUMBER 5, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THIS BEEN
MISNOTICED.
IS THIS THE FIRST TIME?
05:55:15PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
NO, THREE TIMES.
05:55:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE ARE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS THAT NOW, BUT I
WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
05:55:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.
MAYBE NOT UNTIL THE END OF THE AGENDA AND I MAY FORGET.
BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHATEVER MR. BRICKLEMYER SAID,
PUT IT IN A ONE LINE THING AND LET THE CITY ANSWER IT WHAT
WE DID.
AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AT, I AM NOT BLAMING ANYONE, BUT WHAT
HAPPENED -- WE GOT SO SMART WITH COMPUTERS THAT WE DON'T
SPEAK TO NOBODY.
NOBODY PICKS UP THE PHONE AND SAYS, HEY, YOU KNOW I DIDN'T
GET THIS.
YOU SENT ANOTHER MESSAGE.
I DIDN'T GET IT.
HOW THE HELL I DO KNOW I GOT IT.
05:55:50PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
JUST TO BRING CLOSURE TO THE ITEM.
IS COUNCIL -- AND I THINK HEARING FROM MISS WELLS IS THAT
NUMBER 5, EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES AND THIS WE WILL BE
HEARD ON THE 22nd WHEN THIS ITEM, ITEM 2 IS BEING CONTINUED.
THAT THE SENTIMENT OF COUNCIL?
05:56:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
CORRECT.
05:56:10PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
CONTINUING WITH THE AGENDA CLEANUP.
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:56:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAIT, WE DIDN'T VOTE.
05:56:20PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION AND VOTE ON IT IF YOU
WOULD LIKE.
05:56:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 5.
05:56:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
05:56:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:56:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
05:56:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
05:56:32PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
05:56:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
05:56:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
05:56:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
05:56:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
05:56:39PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:56:41PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, ITEM NUMBER 3, AB2 22-13.
APPLICATION IS RELATED TO ITEM NUMBER 15, 22-97.
CAN YOU MOVE THE ITEM TO BE HEARD AT THE ENDS OF THE AGENDA
ITEM NUMBER 15.
05:57:00PM >> MOVE ITEM 3 TO BE HEARD WITH ITEM 15.
05:57:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
THANK YOU.
05:57:10PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
REZ 22-01.
THE APPLICANT HAS ASKED TO WITHDRAW.
05:57:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 4.
05:57:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR.
05:57:24PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ITEM 6, REZ 22-21.
THE PETITION HAS NOT BEEN PROPERLY NOTICED.
GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM 6 CITIZENS.
05:57:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
05:57:38PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, REZ 22-58.
PETITION HAS NOT BEEN PROPERLY NOTICED.
REMOVE FROM THE AGENDA.
05:57:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
05:57:53PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
LAST ITEM 14, REZ-22-69.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO BE HEARD AT THE
DECEMBER 8, 2022 AT 5:01 P.M.
05:58:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO BE HEARD BY COUNCILMAN GUDES --
05:58:10PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ADDITIONALLY THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO
WAIVE THE 180-DAY REQUIREMENT.
05:58:15PM >> MOVE.
05:58:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
05:58:19PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
THE APPLICANT IS HERE, I BELIEVE, AS WELL.
05:58:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. HUDSON.
05:58:27PM >> TYLER HUDSON, 401 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
WE HAVE SOME THINGS TO WORK OUT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION
AND CSX USE FROM A VESTING DEED AND WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO
DECEMBER IF POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU.
WE ARE WILLING TO WAIVE THE 180-DAY PROTECTION.
05:58:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HEARING THAT, ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS THAT
WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS CONTINUANCE WHICH IS AGENDA ITEM
NUMBER 14, REZ 22-69?
SEEING NONE.
A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
MISS BARNES, DOES THAT CLEAR OUR AGENDA REVIEW.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 5:01.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
AT THIS TIME, MR. MASSEY.
AT THIS TIME ANYONE IN CHAMBER WHO WILL BE GIVING ANY
EVIDENCE DURING THESE PROCEEDINGS TONIGHT, PLEASE RISE AND
BE SWORN IN.
ANYONE GIVING ANY TYPE OF EVIDENCE?
[SWEARING IN]
05:59:56PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL, LaCHONE
DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
COUNCIL, ITEM NUMBER 7 AND 8 ARE ASSOCIATED.
ITEM 7 IS A VACATING VAC 22-10.
AND ITEM 8 IS A REZONING, WHICH IS REZ 22-42.
WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THESE TWO ITEMS BE OPENED TOGETHER
IF WE COULD AND HAVE THEM VOTED UPON SEPARATELY.
06:00:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
06:00:25PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
WE WILL HAVE ROSS START AND PRESENT THE
VACATING TO YOU AND I WILL COME UP WITH THE REZONING.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
06:00:31PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS --
[INAUDIBLE]
-- LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:00:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WERE YOU SWORN IN?
06:00:54PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
YES, ROSS SAMONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
PRESENTING VAC 22-10.
ASHLEY GLEN LAND HOLDINGS LCC.
ADAM HARDING.
911 WEST CYPRESS STREET.
TO VACATE PORTIONS OF NORTH BOULEVARD, CYPRESS STREET,
EDISON AVENUE AND AN ALLEY SOUTH OF NORTH-SOUTH OF ARCH
STREET, NORTH OF LEMON STREET, WEST OF NORTH BOULEVARD AND
EAST OF DELAWARE AVENUE.
FILED JANUARY 27, 2022
THE APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY ON THE NORTH AND WEST SIDE OF
CYPRESS STREET AND NORTH OF WEST BOULEVARD THAT IS RECENTLY
VACATED.
THE APPLICATION IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT AND CITY OF
TAMPA ACQUISITION.
THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY TO BE VACATED -- PROPOSED IS
13,673 SQUARE FEET.
THERE ARE NO CURRENT CODE VIOLATIONS.
THIS VACATING IS WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.
HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.
THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTIES IN RED.
AND PROPOSED VACATING ARE IN YELLOW.
FOUR SESSIONS.
A NORTH SECTION OF THE INTERSECTION OF CYPRESS AND NORTH
BOULEVARD HERE.
AND A SOUTH SECTION.
INTERSECTION ALSO AND A PORTION OF NORTH EDISON, NORTH OF
LEMON STREET.
AND EXISTING ALLEY.
IT'S ON THE EAST OF DELAWARE STREET.
SHOWING THE PROPERTY IN GRAY AND THE VACATING AREAS IN PINK.
HERE IS AN IMAGE OF THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST FROM MONROE
STREET.
AS YOU CAN SEE IT IS TOTALLY FENCED.
LOOKING EAST FROM EDISON AVENUE AND CYPRESS INTERSECTION
TOWARD NORTH BOULEVARD.
AND THIS IS THE SOUTHERN SECTION OF THE CYPRESS INTERSECTION
THAT NORTH BOULEVARD TO BE VACATED.
HERE IS ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING EAST OF CYPRESS AND NORTH
BOULEVARD.
THE SOUTHERN SECTION.
THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE ROAD PROPOSE TO BE VACATED.
THIS IS A VIEW OF CYPRESS STREET LOOKING WEST FROM NORTH
BOULEVARD AND, AGAIN, THIS IS THE SOUTHERN SECTION.
THIS IS LOOKING EAST AT THE INTERSECTION -- INTERSECTION OF
CYPRESS AND NORTH BOULEVARD.
AND THIS IS THE NORTHERN SECTION OF PROPOSED VACATING.
AGAIN, CYPRESS STREET LOOKING WEST, NORTH BOULEVARD AND
THIS, AGAIN, IS THE NORTHERN SECTION OF THE PROPOSED
VACATING REQUEST.
EDISON AVENUE LOOKING SOUTH FROM CYPRESS STREET.
THIS IS EDISON AVENUE LOOKING NORTH FROM LEMON STREET, THE
APPLICANT'S PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THIS.
RECOMMENDATION IS STAFF OBJECTS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST
BASED ON RESPONSE RECEIVED FROM STORMWATER DEPARTMENT.
EASEMENT RESERVATIONS OVERALL NEEDED FOR FRONTIER, MOBILITY
STORMWATER, TECO WATER AND WASTEWATER.
NATURAL RESOURCES COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27 WITH REGARD TO TREE
PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN, BRINGING IMPROVEMENTS TO TREES
ADJACENT TO THE VACATED AREA.
THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
06:04:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
06:04:58PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL, LaCHONE DOCK,
LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I WILL PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING THE REZONING REQUEST.
REZ 22-42.
THE APPLICANT IS ASHLEY GLEN LAND HOLDINGS LCC.
REPRESENTED BY CATHERINE COYLE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RM-24 AND RS-50
TO PD FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL USES ON
THE PROJECT.
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A SECOND BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO IT
THE PLANNING COMMISSION JUST TO REVIEW WITH YOU A FEW THINGS
WITH THE REQUEST.
SO, ONE, WHAT IS BEFORE IT YOU IS A PD REQUEST.
THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR YOU, YOU WILL NOTICE THE
DATE OF THE SITE PLAN ON THE STAFF REPORT.
THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED TO YOU HAVE ALREADY INCORPORATED SOME
OF THE CHANGES REQUESTED TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING ON IS THAT PLAN.
BUT WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A PD REQUEST.
AND IT IS -- IT SHOWS AND IDENTIFIES THE BOUNDARY OF THE
PROJECT AREA.
SO YOU DON'T SEE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT RIGHT NOW AT THIS
PHASE.
YOU DON'T SEE THE PARKING LAYOUT OR THE CURB CUTS.
WHAT IS PROVIDED IS AN OVERALL BOUNDARY FOR THE PROJECT AND
THEN ENTITLEMENTS ARE INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS PD PACKAGE.
AS PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS, THE APPLICANT, AS THEY COME
IN FOR PHASED DEVELOPMENT MUST APPLY FOR INCREMENTAL SITE
PLAN REVIEW.
AT THE TIME OF THE REVIEW, WE REVIEW THE INCREMENTAL
PLAN THAT THEN WILL INCLUDE THE DETAIL YOU WOULD NORMALLY
SEE IN YOUR PD SITE PLAN.
IN CASES WHERE YOU HAVE LARGER DEVELOPMENTS OR PHASED
DEVELOPMENT, WE WILL ALLOW -- YOU WILL SEE IT COME IN AS
INCREMENTAL AND YOUR OVERALL APPROVAL FOR THE PD IS FOR THE
PROJECT AND ENTITLEMENTS WITHIN.
EACH TIME IT IS SUBMITTED THE APPLICANT MUST SHOW THE
DRAWDOWNS FOR THAT ENTITLEMENTS.
06:06:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION?
06:07:04PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
NOT YET.
ROSS HAS PROVIDED YOU IMAGES OF THE MAP FOR THE VACATING --
VACATED AREA AND I WANT TO SHOW YOU ON THE REZONING MAP.
IT IS EASY TO SHOW YOU THE PARCELS INCLUDED IN THIS REZONING
INSTEAD OF GIVING YOU ALL THE PROPERTY ADDRESSES BECAUSE IT
INCLUDES A COUPLE OF BLOCKS OF DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY UNDER THIS REQUEST WHICH IS OUTLINED IN
RED.
THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY IS ARCH.
AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS NORTH BOULEVARD.
THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROJECT AREA.
TO ORIENT YOU ON THIS MAP, THIS IS I-275.
THIS IS CYPRESS.
THIS IS CASS.
SO THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY IS CASS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR WESTERN BOUNDARY, WHICH IS EITHER
MONROE AND IT JOGS ALONG THIS WESTERN LINE.
BUT THAT IS THE AREA UNDER THIS REQUEST.
AND THEN I WILL TURN IT OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION TO DO
THEIR REPORT, BUT YES, I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:08:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
06:08:07PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED HERE.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PD, BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING OF
VACATING FIRST.
06:08:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THEY ARE DOING THEM TOGETHER.
06:08:18PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YES, YOU ARE CORRECT.
WE WANTED TO OPEN THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE AS PART OF THIS
REZONING, THE OVERALL PROJECT AREA INCLUDES AREAS TO BE
VACATED.
SO WHAT ROSS HAS PRESENTED TO YOU ARE THE AREAS FOR VACATING
AND WHAT WILL BE INCLUDED -- BECAUSE YOU DON'T INCLUDE THAT
AS PART OF THE REZONING IS THE ACTUAL PROPERTY ITSELF.
IT IS ALL WITHIN THE OVERALL BOUNDARIES.
06:08:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WOULD HAVE SOME CONCERNS.
I KNOW THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY VERY WELL AND KNOW STREETS.
I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU CONSIDER VACATING
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TALK OF CYPRESS GOING ON TO BOULEVARD.
I AM KIND OF CONFUSED ON THAT.
06:08:58PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
I HAVE A LAYOUT I WILL BRING TO YOU IT AFTER
PLANNING COMMISSION DOES THEIR PRESENTATION AND I WILL SHOW
YOU THE EXACT ROADWAYS FOR THE VACATING.
06:09:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I BELIEVE, MR. CHAIRMAN, IT IS KNOWN AS A
--
[INAUDIBLE]
-- AND THEY ARE JUST NORTH -- NORTHWEST OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
TAMPA BASEBALL DIAMOND.
06:09:16PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
ABSOLUTELY.
JULIAN LANE ON THE EAST AND BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IS ON THE
EAST.
I HAVE PICTURES TO SHOW YOU THAT WILL ORIENT YOU TO THE SITE
WHEN I DO MY PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
06:09:32PM >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
COMMISSION.
AS LACHONE ALREADY STATED, REZ 22-42.
I'M JUST PRESENTING ON THE ZONING TONIGHT BECAUSE PLANNING
COMMISSION DOESN'T NECESSARILY REVIEW VACATING
IN THE CENTRAL PLANNING DISTRICT IN THE WEST TAMPA URBAN
VILLAGE.
ALSO IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL THIS WAS A PLAN AMENDMENT PACK IN
2016 TO HAVE THE FUTURE USE ON THIS PROPERTY.
HERE IS THE AERIAL.
WE HAVE THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA TO THE SOUTH.
JULIAN B. LANE TO THE EAST.
TAMPA PREPARATORY ACADEMY TO THE EAST.
AND APPEAR NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST OF THE SITE.
THIS IS THE PROXIMITY OF THE RIVER DOES PUT IT IN THE
COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
THE FEWER LAND USE IS URBAN MIXED USE-60 PART OF THAT
PLANNED AMOUNT GOING BACK TO 2016.
I REMEMBER IT VERY WELL BECAUSE ONE OF MY FIRST PLAN
AMENDMENTS EVER WHEN I STARTED HERE.
WE HAVE REGIONAL MIXED USE-100 ACROSS THE STREET.
THE PREPARATORY SCHOOL.
RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE TO THE NORTH.
JULIAN B. LANE.
AND RESIDENTIAL-20, IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST.
SO WHILE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD MIGHT BE DEVELOPED AS PRIMARILY
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, THERE IS MORE DENSITY HERE.
MORE DENSITY FOR TOWN HOME AND DUPLEX DEVELOPMENTS UNDER THE
FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL-20 THAT ALLOWS
FOR MORE USES THAN MIGHT BE EXISTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
TODAY.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT, BUT AS LAP
COMMON STATED, EARLIER REVIEWED THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN AS
SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING MIXED USE THROUGH A NOTE ON THE
SITE PLAN THAT WE REVIEWED AND THAT IS ENCOURAGED BY THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
NORTH BOULEVARD IS AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY AND WEST CASS STREET
IS A COLLECTOR.
DEFINITELY A CORRIDOR THAT WE WANT TO ACTIVATE WITH THE
MIXED USE.
THE COMMERCIAL USES ON THE CORRIDOR.
WE ALSO FOUND THE NOTES ABOUT THE HEIGHT CONSISTENT.
SOME COMMITMENTS THAT THE -- THAT THE APPLICANT IS MAKING TO
THE HEIGHT OF THE SITE AND STEPPING BACK FROM THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I AM SURE LACHONE WILL GO INTO MORE DETAIL WITH THAT.
BUT THAT WAS -- THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN UNDER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PROTECTION POLICY.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I AM ALWAYS AVAILABLE
FOR QUESTIONS.
06:11:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
06:12:02PM >>JENNIFER MALONE:
THANKS.
06:12:02PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I WANT TO PUT UP WITH THE QUESTION OF THE VACATING.
WHICH WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THE AREAS TO IT BE VACATED.
SO COUNCILMAN GUDES -- WELL, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT.
THIS AREA THAT IS SHADED, THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS FOR THE
VACATING PROPOSED.
SO THIS IS -- THE SITE PLAN ITSELF IS IDENTIFIED INTO TWO
PARCELS.
PARCEL 1 IS THE NORTHERN PARCEL.
AND THIS AREA IS PART OF THE VACATING THAT IS RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THIS AREA ALSO WHICH IS SHADED.
AND YOU HAVE THE AREAS UNDER PARCEL 2.
WHICH IS THE SHADED AREA HERE.
AND THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT ROSS HAS DEFINED.
06:12:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU HAVE QUESTIONS?
06:13:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NO.
06:13:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT SAME PICTURE YOU HAD AT THE OVERHEAD,
CAN YOU -- CAN YOU LAY THAT BACK DOWN?
06:13:08PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YES.
06:13:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AT THE CORNER OF NORTH BOULEVARD AND
CYPRESS, THERE IS A PORK CHOP ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
06:13:15PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YES.
06:13:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MA'AM.
THAT IS PART OF THE VACATING RIGHT THERE.
THAT IS THE ONLY PART OF CYPRESS.
06:13:28PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THE HATCHED.
06:13:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THE ONLY PART OF BOULEVARD THAT WILL BE
VACATED.
06:13:33PM >>THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE ELECTIONS.
06:13:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
JUST -- JUST INSIDE THE PORK CHOPS.
06:13:40PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
INSIDE THE PORK CHOPS.
06:13:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
06:13:43PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
COUNCIL, THANK YOU AGAIN AND I WILL GO OVER
THE PROJECT DETAIL FOR THE REZONING WHICH IS, AGAIN, REZ
22-42.
THE SITE IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AS COUNCILMAN HAS ALREADY
MENTIONED.
IT IS DEVELOPED WITH OAKHURST APARTMENTS AND THE SITE
CONTAINS APPROXIMATELY 9.3 ACRES.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE YOU THE SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU
IDENTIFIES TWO PARCELS.
PARCEL ONE IS THE NORTH PARCEL.
ARCH STREET IS THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY.
NORTH BOULEVARD TO THE EAST.
CYPRESS IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH BOUNDARY OF PARCEL ONE.
AND FOR PARCEL TWO, CYPRESS IS THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY AND
CASS STREET WHICH IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH.
THIS IS BOULEVARD THOSE ARE THE TWO PARCELS UNDER THE ASK.
THE SURROUNDING USES -- THIS IS THE AERIAL IMAGE AGAIN.
THE PROPERTY -- THE PROJECT AREA IS OUTLINED IN RED
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF PDs THAT ARE
LOCATED ALONG NORTH BOULEVARD.
YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING.
THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY WHICH IS JULIAN B. LANE.
TO THE EAST, THE GIRLS AND BOYS CLUB -- TO THE EAST.
AND SINGLE-FAMILY WHICH IS PREDOMINANTLY TO THE WEST OF THE
SITE.
SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IS THE PD
TO ALLOW FOR THAT MIXTURE OF THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE
COMMERCIAL MIXED USES.
WHAT HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT IS THE
DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENT CHART, WHICH EXPLAINS THE MAXIMUM
DEVELOPMENT ALLOWED.
AS JENNIFER HAS EXPLAINED, THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THIS
PROJECT AREA IS UMU-06.
URBAN MIXED USE-60.
ALLOW FOR MAXIMUM F.A.R. OF 2.75.
THIS REQUEST HAS AN ASSOCIATED ROADWAY AND PUBLIC
IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENT ALONG WITH DESIGN STANDARDS WITHIN THE
SITE PLAN PACKAGE.
THIS SITE IS ALSO LOCATED IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.
ALL OF THESE THINGS TOGETHER IS WHAT WOULD ACTUALLY
DETERMINE THE -- AND REGULATE THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE
PROJECT.
AND I HAVE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
SO WHAT WE WILL DO IS START ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY.
GO DOWN NORTH BOULEVARD.
THEN HIT THE SURROUNDING USES STARTING FROM THE SOUTH GOING
EAST, NORTH AND END UP IN THE WEST.
SO THIS IS A VIEW -- THIS IS THE EAST BOUNDARY OF THE SOUTH.
THAT IS NORTH BOULEVARD.
THAT IS LOOKING NORTH.
YOU CAN SEE THE INTERSTATE IN THE BACKGROUND.
THIS IS A VIEW OF THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE SITE.
THIS THE NORTH BOUNDARY OF THE SITE WHICH IS LOCATED TO IT
THE LEFT OF THIS PICTURE.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON ARCH.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE ITSELF.
THIS IS AT CYPRESS.
06:16:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BOULEVARD, RIGHT?
06:16:41PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
AND BOULEVARD.
YES.
THIS IS BOULEVARD AND CYPRESS IS OUR CROSS STREET.
THIS IS THE WEST PORTION OF THE SITE.
THIS IS ON CYPRESS.
SO THIS WOULD BE A PART OF WHAT IS PARCEL TWO, IDENTIFIED ON
THE SITE PLAN.
THIS IS THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE.
THAT VIEW.
THAT IS LOOKING SOUTH AND BOULEVARD.
THIS IS THE SOUTH BOUNDARY OF THE SITE.
THIS IS CASS STREET BOULEVARD IS TO THE RIGHT IN THIS
PICTURE.
AND THEN WE WILL GO TO THE SURROUNDING USES STARTING WITH
THE EAST AND WORK OUR WAY UP NORTH.
SO THIS IS THE EAST OF THE SITE.
THIS IS ON BOULEVARD.
THIS WORKING OUR WAY NORTHEAST OF THE SITE.
THIS IS THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB BUILDING.
THIS IS JULIAN B. LANE.
CIRCLE AROUND TO THE NORTH.
WEDU, WHICH IS LOCATE NORTH OF THE SITE.
AT THE CORNER OF ARCH.
THIS IS NORTHWEST OF THE SITE.
THAT IS ON LaSALLE.
AND THIS IS A VIEW WEST OF THE SITE.
AND THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH.
ON MONROE.
THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST.
IT FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
YOU CAN SEE THE FINDINGS WITHIN THE REPORT WHICH ARE FROM
TRANSPORTATION RELATED TO THE WAIVERS REQUESTED FOR
TRANSPORTATION REQUIREMENTS.
THERE ARE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED TO BE MADE
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
THE REVISION SHEET IS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT I
HAVE A REVISED REVISION SHEET TO PROVIDE FOR YOU COUNCIL.
SO IN THE READING OF THE MOTION IF YOU CAN READ INTO THAT
YOUR REQUEST -- INTO THE MOTION.
AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
06:18:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:18:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I ASK MISS WELLS A QUESTION REAL FAST.
SORRY TO KEEP JUMPING UP AND DOWN.
COULD YOU JUST REITERATE OR CONFIRM IF I AM CORRECT THAT
PROPERTY -- I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE USES ARE OF THESE
PROPERTIES.
I DON'T KNOW -- I DRIVE BY THEM ALL THE TIME.
LOW RENT OR HIGH RENT.
WHATEVER IT IS ZONED NOW.
CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THE -- WITH
-- WITH OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING, WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF THE
EXACT USE THAT SOMEBODY WOULD DO WITHIN THE ZONING
PARAMETERS AND DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL WHAT KIND OF RENT THIS
HE MIGHT CHARGE.
06:19:15PM >>CATE WELLS:
THE REQUEST FOR THIS APPLICATION IS
RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED USE COMMERCIAL.
THE MULTIFAMILY ALLOWS DIFFERENT TYPES OF STRUCTURES.
AND IF APPROVING THIS, WOULD YOU BE APPROVING THOSE
ENTITLEMENTS.
BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE RENT THAT WOULD BE CHARGED, THAT IS
NOT SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL COULD CONTROL AS A CONDITION
OF APPROVAL IN THE APPLICATION.
THAT GOES BEYOND -- -- OF YOUR PURVIEW IN A REZONING.
06:19:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONCE THIS IS APPROVED.
WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF RENT THEY CHARGE AND MEET THE
PARAMETERS -- AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE PARAMETERS.
06:19:57PM >>CATE WELLS:
CORRECT.
IF THIS IS APPROVED AS MISS DOCK MENTIONED COUNCIL WILL BE
APPROVING CERTAIN ENTITLEMENTS.
COMING DOWN ON INCREMENTAL PLAN REVIEW THEY WILL BE DRAWING
DOWN AND NOT BE ABLE TO EXCEED THOSE ENTITLEMENTS.
THE ONLY TIME IN A REZONING THAT COUNCIL ADDRESSES THE ISSUE
OF RENT OR OWNERSHIP IS WHEN THERE WILL BE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING PROVIDED.
AND THAT TYPICALLY OCCURS WHEN SOMEONE IS SEEKING AN
INCREASE IN DENSITY AND ONE OF THE AMENITIES THAT MAY BE
PROVIDED THROUGH A BONUS PROVISION IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THAT IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE LIMITS OF THE 80% AMI AND THE
120% AMI.
AND IN THIS CASE WE ARE NOT SEEKING AN INCREASE OF DENSITY
THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT.
WHICH IS WHY THE RENT CHARGED WILL NOT BE CONTROLLED.
06:20:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM ALSO THAT THE -- THAT
WE AS CITY COUNCIL CANNOT REQUIRE A DEVELOPER TO HAVE RENT
AT ANY -- ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING RENT LEVEL WITHOUT OFFERING
A SUBSIDY OF SOME KIND.
ISN'T THAT WHAT THE LAW SAYS?
06:21:10PM >>CATE WELLS:
THE -- GENERALLY, YES.
AND THAT'S NOT ANYTHING WE REALLY ADDRESSED IN OUR CODE TO
DATE.
SO THAT -- I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IN
THE FUTURE, BUT WITH RESPECT WHAT WE HAVE TONIGHT, IT WILL
BE -- YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE SCOPE OF THE REZONING, THE
ENTITLEMENTS AND THE PROCESS BY WHICH THEY WILL DRAW DOWN AS
THEY DEVELOP THE PARCEL.
06:21:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY POINT PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND
PUBLIC PROJECTS WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IF THERE HAPPENS TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, LOWER RENT
HOUSING.
WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL BECAUSE COMPLETELY PRIVATE.
06:21:53PM >>CATE WELLS:
THE CONTROL BECAUSE THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL
APPLICATION, WHAT YOU ARE RAISING GOES BEYOND THE SCOPE OF
COUNCIL'S REVIEW.
THANK YOU.
06:22:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PETITIONER.
06:22:11PM >> I APOLOGIZE.
THANK YOU.
FOR HEARING THE APPLICATION TONIGHT.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
MY NAME IS ADAM HARDEN, 220 WEST 7th AVENUE, TAMPA, 33602.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, ASHLEY GLEN LAND
HOLDINGS.
SAVE THE TIME FOR CATHERINE WHO IS FORTUNATE TO BE HERE TO
ASSIST US.
I WANTED TO TOUCH ON A THOUGHT AND GIVE YOU SOME -- A BRIEF
OVERVIEW HISTORY OF THIS SITE.
SO THE STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT -- THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IS
2.75, THE MAX.
ACTUALLY 3.25.
WE ARE REQUESTING 2.75.
AND I WILL CIRCLE BACK TO THAT THOUGHT WITH REGARD TO THIS
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DISCUSSION IN A MINUTE.
SO THE OAKHURST PROPERTY IS, AS WAS STATED.
NINE AND A HALF ACRES APPROXIMATELY THAT IS THE MAJORITY OF
THE FRONTAGE ALONG BOULEVARD, NORTH OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
TAMPA AND UP TO THE INTERSTATE.
HISTORICALLY, THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD HERE THAT CONTINUED
ACROSS BOULEVARD TO THE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS, WHICH LINE THE
RIVER.
DURING URBAN RENEWAL, THERE WAS -- YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF
TAMPA URBAN RENEWAL AGENCIES TOOK CONTROL OF THE PROPERTY
FROM THE RIVER TO THE BACK SIDE OF OAK HURST.
TURNED A PORTION OF IT INTO A PUBLIC WORK AND SUBSEQUENTLY
THESE TWO PARCELS ALONG WITH A THIRD PARCEL WHERE WEDU, THE
TV STATION, THE EDUCATIONAL TV STATION RESIDES IN THE CITY
CONSTRUCTION SERVICES BUILDING.
THESE PARCELS WERE RECONFIGURED AND MADE INTO MONOLITHIC
PARCELS WHICH ESSENTIALLY BLOCK THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFF TO THE
BACK.
SO YOU HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REZONING -- ABOUT THE
VACATION.
SO THERE ARE PUTS AND TAKES IN THE VACATION.
THE SOUTH PARCEL WITH THE ADDITIONAL TAKING FROM BOULEVARD
IS NARROW AND DIFFICULT TO ACCOMPLISH VERTICALLY IN AN
INTEGRATED MIXED USE.
WE PROPOSE TO CLOSE BOULEVARD.
I BELIEVE THAT WILL KEEP SOUTHBOUND BOULEVARD TRAFFIC FROM
TURNING RIGHT AND IMMEDIATELY ATTEMPTING TO TURN LEFT ON TO
THAT SECTION OF EDISON.
THE NORTH BLOCK IS DEEPER.
AND WE ARE PROPOSING ACTUALLY -- AND YOU CAN SEE -- I DON'T
KNOW WHAT YOU CAN SEE.
THE GREEN SECTION, WE ARE DEDICATING BACK SO THAT MONROE,
WHICH IS THE GREET BEHIND THE LARGER NORTHERN TRACK, WHICH
CONTINUES ALL THE WAY UP TO THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL THAT IS
CONTROLLED BY WEDU WILL BE OPEN UP TO CYPRESS.
SO THAT DOESN'T CREATE THAT PAGE TURN SITUATION.
SO LIKEWISE, THERE IS SOME GAPS THAT KEEP IT FROM ALIGNING
AND WE ARE DEDICATED TO KEEPING THAT BACK.
OF COURSE THE PORK CHOPS THAT COUNCILMAN CITRO MENTIONED IS
A PRODUCT OF THE OLD STREETCAR SYSTEM.
IN THIS CASE WE WORKED WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO COME
UP WITH A PLAN, YOU KNOW, FOR THE -- FOR THE TRANSFORMATION
OF A LANE ON BOULEVARD INTO ON-STREET PARKING FOR THE
CREATION OF A BIKE TRACT EXTENSION THAT WILL GO TO THE
COMPLETED CAST BIKE TRACK.
AND THE PORTION WILL TAKE IT TO THE ENDS OF OUR PROPERTY,
BUT WITH THE THOUGHT BEING IT WILL GET -- IT WILL GO BY THE
PUBLIX AT MAIN STREET.
AND OVER THE BOULEVARD BRIDGE.
THE BOULEVARD IS TWO LANES FROM THE BRIDGE NORTH.
IT WAS TRAFFIC CALMED BY PAINTING THE CENTER OF THE BRIDGE
OUT RATHER THAN LEAVING THE ADDITIONAL SPACE ON THE SIDE FOR
BIKES.
THEY JUST SHOVED THE LANES TO THE EDGE OF THE BRIDGE AND
PAINTED THE CENTER OF THE BRIDGE OUT.
WE KNOW ONCE WE GET TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, THAT IT IS
TWO LANES AGAIN.
SO THE FDOT IS COMMITTED TO NOT DUMP THE LANES TO BOULEVARD
IF THEY ARE EVER CONSTRUCTED.
SO WITH THAT, I THINK THIS TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECT WILL BE
APPROPRIATE.
SO I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE REALLY NOT AT THIS LEVEL OF
DETAIL YET.
THIS IS A LITTLE PICTURE OF HOW WE SEE THE SCALE OF THE
PROJECT.
THIS WILL BE STANDING AT THE CITY CONSTRUCTION SERVICE
CENTER LOOKING SOUTH.
YOU KNOW WE TRIED TO PULL IN THE BRICK ELEMENTS WHICH WE
FEEL LIKE GIVE IDENTITY TO WEST TAMPA THE -- SO THE PD
INCLUDES A PROVISION FOR US TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE --
WITH THE IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENT.
AS YOU SAW FROM LACHONE'S PICTURES, EACH OF THE TWO BLOCKS
SURROUNDED BY ABOVEGROUND UTILITIES.
BUT LIKEWISE, THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS ARE IN WHAT I CALL, THE
FROGGER ISLANDS OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, THE TRAFFIC
LIGHT POLES.
SO THE CURRENT CITY CODE HAS TWO -- BONUS AGREEMENT TO MOVE
THE F.A.R. FROM 2.57 TO 3.25.
ONE IS PROVIDING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THE OTHER IS A 10% THRESHOLD OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE -- YOU KNOW, WE -- I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY SHOULD LOOK AT
EXPANDING THE -- THE MONETARY PROVISION WHERE YOU CAN
CALCULATE A BONUS TO INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH WOULD
ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO LOOK HOLISTICALLY AT A PROJECT LIKE THIS
TO NOT ONLY DO THE NEEDED PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.
OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T COME IN AND BUILD THE DENSITY AND
INTENSITY THAT YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE FOR YOUR WESTERN GATEWAY
IF IT IS DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THREE CORNERS AT TWO LIGHTED
INTERSECTIONS WHICH IS THE WESTERN ENTRANCE OF THE DOWNTOWN.
YOU KNOW, I SERVED FOUR YEARS ON THE TRANSIT BOARD AND
THE MPO.
YOU KNOW, I THINK IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A VIABLE FAST
RAPID PREMIUM CONNECTION TO THE AIRPORT, HERE ARE THE TWO
CORNER WHERE IS THIS THING MAKES A DECISION HOW IT WILL
ENTER DOWNTOWN.
WHAT IS THIS GOING TO BE.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE GOT, YOU KNOW, 250 -- 253-YEAR-OLD
APARTMENTS, WOOD FRAME, FLAT ROOF THAT HAVE GOTTEN TO IT THE
END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE.
BUT WE HAVE PUT PROVISION IN THE PD WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO
COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENT AND
PROPOSAL TO DO WORKFORCE HOUSING AND WE INTEND TO THAT.
WE NEED TO FINALIZE THE PLANS WITH CAL'S GROUP.
AND GET BIDS AND PUT SOME MEAT BEHIND THIS.
WE ESSENTIALLY -- THE PD IS CONDITIONED TO ALLOW 120 DAYS TO
BRING THAT AGREEMENT BACK TO YOU.
I TOOK MORE THAN MY TWO MINUTES.
I WILL LET CATHERINE HAVE THE REST OF THE TIME AND I WILL BE
HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
06:29:36PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
CATHERINE COYLE, URBAN PLANNING AND INNOVATIONS, NORTH
SWAUNNEE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33603.
I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
I WILL GIVE YOU CONTEXT REALLY QUICKLY TO BRING IT BACK TO
THE VACATING ITSELF.
YOU HAVE SEEN DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THIS FROM EVERYBODY.
NORTH WILL BE THIS WAY OPPOSED TO NORMALLY WHAT WOULD BE UP.
JUST TO ITERATE WHAT ADAM SAID, THE VACATING I SHOW IN GRAY.
AND IT IS THE GRAY UNDER HERE WHICH IS EDISON.
THE GREEN PIECES ARE WHAT WE ARE DEDICATING BACK.
YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT JUTS OUT HERE AND HOW IT ACTUALLY STEPS
IN AND THE ROADWAY IS ACTUALLY JOSTLES ALONG ON THE NORTH
AND SOUTH.
SO THIS DEDICATION BACK TO THE CITY AND THE VACATING SQUARES
IT OFF TO MAKE IT A STRAIGHT RIGHT-OF-WAY.
AND AS ADAM MENTIONED WORK WITH MOBILITY, THESE NOTCHES ARE
BEING SET ASIDE FOR THE FUTURE TRANSIT ENHANCEMENT IN
SQUARING OFF THESE BLOCKS.
THESE -- THE CONNECTIONS HERE IN THE GREEN WHICH ARE ALSO ON
YOUR SITE PLAN IN GRAY, THOSE ARE THE PROPOSED CONNECTIONS
THROUGH THE PARCEL.
THEY CROSS-ACCESS CONNECTION SO AS YOU CAN GET FROM THE PACK
OF AN AREA THROUGH NORTH BOULEVARD AND HAVING TO WALK ALL
THE WAY AROUND.
SO A CONNECTION EITHER THROUGH THE BUILDINGS, UNDER THE
BUILDINGS.
IT COULD BE A ROADWAY, IT COULD BE A PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY BUT
TWO ON THIS BLOCK AND ONE ON THIS BLOCK.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, THE -- THESE ARE
THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
THIS IS THE PARCEL HERE.
YOU CAN SEE JULIAN B. LANE, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICTS.
THIS BLUE DASHED LINE THIS A CDB PERIPHERY.
YOU DON'T DEAL MUCH WITH IT BECAUSE A LOT OF IT IS BUILT
OUT.
BUT IN THE COMP PLAN IT IS THERE.
IF YOU ARE WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY YOU CAN REQUEST A REZONING
AND BONUS FOR 100% OF YOUR DENSITY AND INTENSITY.
SO IF YOU ARE RMU-100 AT 3.5.
YOU CAN ASK FOR MOST OF 7.
MOST OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICTS WAS BUILT OUT THAT WAY.
THIS IS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
IT IS ZOOMED IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.
THIS, AGAIN, SHOWS YOU THE PERIPHERY BOUNDARY WHERE YOU CAN
GET THAT BONUS UP TO 100% DOWNTOWN.
THIS IS BOULEVARD.
THAT INCLUDED THE ZONING DISTRICTS.
YOU CAN SEE OP-1 IS WHERE TAMPA PREP IS.
AS MISS MALONE MENTIONED THAT IS WHERE THE RMU-100 IS ON THE
COMP PLAN.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
OP-1 ZONING IS 200 FEET MAXIMUM HEIGHT.
EVEN THOUGH TAMPA PREP DOESN'T HAVE A 200-FOOT BUILDING,
THEY CAN BUILD ONE TOMORROW, GET A PERMIT WITHOUT HAVING TO
REZONE.
IT IS UNDER THE ZONING CATEGORY.
YOU WILL SEE THESE ARE THE MAIN EAST-WEST CONNECTIONS.
CASS BEING THE MAIN GATEWAY INTO THE MIDDLE SECTION OF
DOWNTOWN.
AND THEN CYPRESS BEING THAT OTHER MAIN GATEWAY COMING IN TO
THE PARK.
THE -- I NOTED ALSO THE DIMENSION HERE.
JUST TO GIVE YOU THE PROXIMATE.
THIS PROPERTY, ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT IN DOWNTOWN AND
TECHNICALLY NOT IN THE PERIPHERY, IT IS ON THIS EDGE.
IT IS LESS THAN A QUARTER OF A MILE TO THE ACTUAL LAND OF
DOWNTOWN.
SO YOU ARE WITHIN A TYPICAL TRANSITS BOUNDARY, A WALKABLE
BOUNDARY.
THE -- OOPS, WRONG ONE, SORRY.
THE -- THE MIXTURE OF USE THAT ARE PROPOSED THAT MISS DOCK
MENTIONED, THE LAND USE MADE TRICKS OF THE ENTITLEMENT CHART
THAT IS ON THE PLAN, IT DOES CALL FOR -- APPROXIMATELY 9.3,
9.4 ACRES, 1,127,264 SQUARE FEET.
SOUNDS LIKE A LOT.
THIS IS A FAIRLY LARGE PARCEL.
AS MENTIONED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE ZONING --
CITY PLANNING STAFF, 2.75 IS THE ACTUAL MAXIMUM F.A.R.
WITHOUT BEING BONUSED UNDER THE COMP PLAN.
THAT ACTUALLY EQUATES TO THAT NUMBER.
WE HAVE OUR TRIP COUNT FOR PMP WHICH WAS DONE THROUGH OUR
TRAFFIC STUDY.
WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL NOTE THAT WE ARE ADDING THAT PUTS AN
ADDITIONAL CAP JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, BECAUSE THERE IS A
MIXTURE OF USES ON THIS RANGES FROM RETAIL, HOTEL,
MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND OFFICE.
THERE IS AN OUTSIDE CAP ALSO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE
TRADE THINGS OFF.
AS THE MARKET CHANGES.
AS WE DO A LITTLE BIT MORE OFFICE, LITTLE BIT MORE
RESIDENTIAL, AND WE TRADE THESE THINGS OFF, THAT IT WILL
NEVER EXCEED 60,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, 100,000 OF OFFICE
AND 120 ROOMS OF HOTEL.
IS TYPICAL ON THESE TYPES OF REZONING WHERE YOU HAVE A LARGE
SUM OF ENTITLEMENT THAT THERE IS AN OUTSIDE LIMIT
ESSENTIALLY THAT THE PEOPLE KNOW IT IS NOT GOING TO TURN
INTO A BIG MALL, OR A BIG OFFICE COMPLEX.
IT IS INTENDED TO BE MIXED USE.
WE DID AN UPDATED EQUIVALENCY MATRIX AS MENTIONED.
WE ARE CONVERTING.
THIS IS HOW WE ARE CONVERTING THROUGH A TRADE-OFF,
MULTIFAMILY AND RETAIL.
THEN WE CAN TRADE TO MULTI FAMILY RETAIL, OFFICE, HOTEL, AND
MULTIFAMILY OTHER.
WHICH IS JUST A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT STYLE OF MULTIFAMILY.
THIS IS TYPICAL ON THESE TYPES OF TRAFFIC STUDIES FOR THOSE
TRADE-OFFS.
YOU WILL ALSO NOTICE UNDER ITS ENTITLEMENT CHART IS THE
BUILDING LAYOUT AND FORM.
THE BUILDINGS ARE SITTING BETWEEN EIGHT AND 20 FEET FROM THE
STREET SIDE, SO THESE ARE STREET FRONTING STREET WALLS.
THE PURPOSE IS TO THAT URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
AND THAT WALKABLE PUBLIC REALM.
THE.
AND THE PARKING RATES ARE HERE AT THE BOTTOM.
I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THERE IS ANOTHER PAGE IN THE SITE PLAN
THAT SHOWS YOU HOW THE STREETS WILL BE DESIGNED AND THE
PUBLIC REALM WILL BE LAID OUT.
YOU WILL SEE ON THE BOULEVARD CROSS SECTION, YOU HAVE A
8-PLUS WIDTH OF SIDEWALK AND THE PEDESTRIAN IN THE STREET
TREES AND BUILD-TO LINES.
YOU HAVE A PUBLIC REALM.
BUILD TWO LINE FOR A BUILDING AND THE SPACE IN BETWEEN THE
BUILD-TO LINE AND THE PRIVATE PROPERTY LINE IS ALSO PART OF
THAT PUBLIC REALM.
SO WHAT YOU WILL WIND UP WITH IN THE PLAN VIEW IS 16 TO 20
FEET POTENTIALLY WITH SIDEWALK.
AND SIDEWALK CAFES AND OTHER STREET FRONTING USE FROM THOSE
BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE BUILT.
ON THE BOULEVARD SECTION AS WELL, AN IMPROVED BIKE LANE ON
THE WEST SIDE.
THERE IS ONE ON THE EAST SIDE NOW AND ALSO THE INTRODUCTION
OF ON-STREET PARKING THAT WILL COMPLETE THE CORRIDOR WHERE
WE PUT IT ON.
FORMALLY WITH THE CITY -- THE CITY PUT IT ON THE EAST SIDE
IN FRONT OF THE PARK.
NOW THE PREMISE BEHIND THIS WAS TO DO THE ENTIRE SIDE ON THE
WEST IN FRONT OF THESE TWO BLOCKS SO IT WILL COMPLETE THAT
STREET SECTION.
AGAIN, WE ALSO INCLUDED THE STREET SECTIONS AND THE PLANNED
VIEW FOR LOCAL STREETS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE, WITH INTRODUCED
STREET TREES, ON-STREET PARKING AND WIDENED SIDEWALKS.
ALSO PART OF THE PLAN IS A TREE CONSULTING WITH DARK MOSS.
AND TO GIVE YOU PERSPECTIVE AND TO REITERATE, ALL OF THE
CITY STAFF FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
TRANSPORTATION.
THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY WITH LOADING RATES AND PARKING RATES
WHICH I WILL GET TO.
NATURAL REF SOURCES DID FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH SOME
ADDITIONAL NOTE CHANGES.
WE DID WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH ERIN -- MISS MAHER ON WHICH
GRAND TREES NEEDED TO BE SAVED.
THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES INTERNAL TO THE PROPERTY BECAUSE
LAID OUT AS A TWO-STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH SURFACE
PARKING.
A LOT OF THESE TREES WERE PLANTED AND GREW UP OVER TIME.
ON THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT, WHAT I HAVE DONE FOR EASE OF
PRESENTATION, ANYTHING IN GREEN IS WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY
PRESERVING IN PLACE.
ANYTHING MARKED IN THE PURPLE COLOR, THOSE ARE THE PALM
TREES.
WHAT WE HAVE ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN IS A NOTE THAT WE WILL
BE TRANSPLANTING THOSE.
A SIMILAR MECHANISM THAT WAS KNOWN AS THE HEIGHTS.
IT WAS SEVERAL HUNDRED TREES THAT WERE ACTUALLY TRANSPLANTED
BECAUSE -- BIG ONIONS, YOU PICK THEM UP, MOVE THEM AND
REPLANT THEM.
THE SOUTH PARCEL.
SAME THING.
YOU CAN SEE ALL THE PURPLE.
THOSE ARE THE PALMS THAT ARE VIABLE THAT WE WILL TRANSPLANT.
THE THREE LARGE GRAND TREES HERE AND THE PERIMETER TREES
ALONG THE SOUTHERN EDGE WHICH ARE MOSTLY OAKS, THAT WE WILL
BE PRESERVING IN PLACE.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE SPECIFICALLY JUST TO GO OVER A COUPLE
OF THE PLAN POLICIES AND COMPATIBILITY AND CONSISTENCY WITH
THE COMP PLAN.
THERE ARE SEVERAL LANDS USE POLICIES UNDER THE CENTRAL
PLANNING DISTRICTS.
CITY DESIGN, AS WELL AS THE URBAN VILLAGE POLICIES AND MIXED
USE CORRIDOR POLICIES THAT SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THIS TYPE OF
PROJECT.
SPECIFICALLY POLICY 1.1.1.
FOSTERING A VIBRANT URBAN LIFESTYLE THROUGH MIXED USE
DEVELOPMENT.
VERTICAL INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY, HOTEL.
POLICY 1.1.7.
CONTINUE TO CONSIDER DEVELOPMENT OF STRATEGICALLY MIXED USE
AREAS IN ALL DISTRICTS TO ACCOMMODATE LOCAL SERVING
COMMERCIAL AND ENTERTAINMENT USES.
THIS IS A MIXED USE PROJECT, OAKHURST.
LOCATED A QUARTER OF A MILE FROM DOWNTOWN WHICH IS WHERE THE
GROWTH IS REALLY SUPPOSED TO GO.
STRATEGICALLY LOCATED AT ONE OF THE MAIN IT SHALL ACTUALLY
OF TWO THE MAIN WESTERN GATEWAYS.
THE ONE MAIN WESTERN GATEWAY IS CASS INTO DOWNTOWN ON CASS
STREETS.
MIXTURE OF RETAIL AND HOTEL WILL PROVIDE LOCAL SERVING
GOODS, SERVICES AND EMPLOYMENT TO THAT COMMUNITY.
UNDER CITY DESIGN 1.2.24, PROVIDING DESIGN, NEIGHBORHOOD
STREET CENTER, PUBLIC SPACES, DISCOURAGE CRIME BY
STREET-FRONTING USES.
PUTTING EYES ON THE STREETS.
ADEQUATE SIDING AND SIGHT LINES.
WE HAVE DONE THAT BY HAVING THE REDUCED SETBACKS AND PLACING
THE BUILDINGS ALONG THE STREET FRONTAGE CREATING THE STREET
WALLS AND ADD THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS OR VEHICLE
CONNECTION SO AS YOU CAN GET FROM THE BACK TO THE FRONT WITH
THOSE THREE ADDED CONNECTIONS TO THE BLOCKS.
UNDER URBAN MIXED USE-60, THE CATEGORY DESCRIPTION ARE HIGH
INTENSITY RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, OPTION, RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT, UP TO 2.75 F.A.R.
BLOCKS ARE SMALL AND RECTANGULAR.
BUILDING HEIGHTS STEP DOWN AND LESS SEPARATED BY A ROADWAY.
SIDEWALKS, STREET TREES, INVITED AMENITIES.
WE TAKE OUT ALL THE BOXES AND PARAMETERS.
PARKING ON STREET IS ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS
ENCOURAGED.
URBAN VILLAGE.
5.1.2, 5.1.3 ALSO SPEAK TO DESIGNING MIXED USE DENSE
COMMERCIAL -- MIXED USE PROJECT FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.
FINALLY WEST TAMPA CRA STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN SPEAKS VERY
CLEARLY TO THE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, ATTRACTING
COMMERCIAL SUPPORT SERVICES TO THE GROWING RESIDENTIAL
POPULATION, LANE WIDTH REDUCTION ARE WIDE SIDEWALKS AND
LANDSCAPING THAT SERVE AND PROMOTE BUSINESS, PROVIDING
ADDITIONAL ON-STREET PARKING AND UNDER THE CODE SECTIONS
UNDER THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, DETERMINE THE TO HE TENSION
OF WEST TAMPA CRA DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND WORK ON
IMPROVING CURRENT POLICIES THAT HINDER SUCCESSFUL
REDEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH OF THE AREA AND UTILIZE ADJACENT
LAND USE TO COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL CORRIDORS TO THE
FULLEST POTENTIAL WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE DOING.
06:42:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
06:42:27PM >> I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:42:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. HARDEN.
06:42:37PM >> YES, SIR.
06:42:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CAN YOU PUT THAT PRETTY PICTURE OF THE
DEVELOPMENT BACK UP.
THE PRETTY PICTURE.
06:42:44PM >> LET'S SEE.
06:42:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GOING TO USE A COUPLE OF BUZZWORDS YOU USED
DURING YOUR PRESENTATION.
YOU TALKED ABOUT INCENTIVES.
YOU TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH I SAY ATTAINABLE
HOUSING.
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT 10%.
WILL YOU ELABORATE ON INCENTIVES.
10%.
YOU ARE TALKING OF CITY INCENTIVES.
HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER.
06:43:12PM >> THE CITY CODE HAS TWO PROVISION TO ENTER INTO A BONUS
AGREEMENT TO MOVE THE FLOOR AREA RATIO FROM THE BASE F.A. R.
TO THE MAXIMUM F.A.R. THOSE CATEGORIES ARE EITHER A STRAIGHT
10% AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR
PROVIDING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OR NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS THAT
CONNECT TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE ON THE CIP LIST.
CATE CAN PROBABLY GIVE YOU A --
06:43:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE
THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE AREA OF WHICH YOU ARE DEVELOPING --
AND I WOULDN'T BE A GOOD COUNCILMAN IN DISTRICT 5 IF I
DIDN'T ASK THOSE QUESTIONS ESPECIALLY WHAT IS ON THAT
PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
06:44:05PM >> YES, SIR.
06:44:06PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT IS MY CONCERN WHEN YOU TALKED OF
PERCENTAGES AND YOU TALKED ABOUT HOUSING.
BECAUSE THAT -- THAT PRETTY PICTURE IS WHAT YOU ARE PLANNING
ON DOING WHICH IS MIXED USE.
I AM JUST HOPING THAT WHEN IT COMES DOWN THE ROAD, WE -- WE
LOOK AT SOME OTHER INCENTIVES THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE TO HELP
WITH THAT PROJECT IF IT IS APPROVED.
06:44:26PM >> AND I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT AND CONDITIONED THE PD
FOR US TO COME BACK WITHIN 120 DAYS WITH AGREEMENT TO DO
THESE NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS.
WE SAW PHOTOS OF ALL FOUR SIDES OF TWO BLOCKS WHICH HAVE
WOODEN POWER POLES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SIDEWALK
AND THESE ISSUES.
WE HAVE THE UNSAFE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS WHICH IS THE MAIN
CONNECTION FROM WEST TAMPA TO THE PARK.
YOU KNOW THE FROGGER ISLANDS.
BUT ADDITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A WORK
COMPONENT AS WELL AND TEND TO COME BACK AND NEGOTIATE OUR
WAY FROM THE 2.75 TO THE 3.25 WITH YOU GUYS AND PROVIDING
ON-STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND WORK FORCE HOUSING COMPONENT.
06:45:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I AM HOPE WITH THAT
WORK FORCE -- WE TALK ABOUT ATTAINABLE AS WELL, ESPECIALLY
WHEN I LOOK AT THIS PHOTO HERE.
SO I AM GOING TO SIT BACK AND LISTEN A LITTLE BIT MORE BUT
LOOKING AT INCENTIVES.
06:45:29PM >> WHILE I AM UP HERE, TWO ADDITIONAL LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
ONE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND ONE FROM BRANDT
PETERSON, WHO IS CURRENTLY THE PRESIDENT OF THE NORTH HYDE
PARK ALLIANCE BUT THIS LETTER IS SENT IN HIS INDIVIDUAL
PERSONAL CAPACITY AS THEY HAVE NOT MET IN A WHILE.
06:45:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE NORTH HYDE PARK ASSOCIATION.
06:45:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOTION FILE THE LETTERS.
06:45:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I AM SURE NORTH HYDE PARK ASSOCIATION WILL
PROBABLY HAVE THINGS TO SAY LATER ON.
06:45:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:46:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT -- FROM -- ABOUT
TRANSPORTATION.
WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE.
06:46:16PM >>JONATHAN SCOTT:
THAN THAN, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
WE HAVE OBJECTIONS THAT THEY ASK FOR LOCAL STREET ACCESS.
TYPICAL OBJECTIONS.
06:46:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE CONCERNED WITH THEM CLOSING THE --
THE STREET?
06:46:37PM >>JONATHAN SCOTT:
NO, NOT FOR THAT PART OF IT.
FOR THE VACATING WE HAVE EASEMENTS THAT WE ARE PLACING ON
THESE THINGS AND THEY HAVE TO COME BACK WITHIN 120 DAYS AND
HAVE PLANS FOR -- WHAT THEY ARE WORKING ON.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS HURTAK THOSE ARE THE
OBJECTIONS.
I WANTED TO CLARIFY.
THANK YOU.
I HAVE MORE TRANSIT QUESTIONS -- TRANSPORTATION QUESTIONS
FOR MISS COYLE.
SORRY.
DIFFERENT -- IF YOU CAN PUT A PICTURE UP OF THE ROAD DESIGN
WHERE YOU HAVE THE TWO AND THE FOUR AND THE FOUR.
THE CARS AND THE TREES AND ALL THAT LOVELY STUFF.
FIRST OF ALL, I DO APPRECIATE THE IDEA OF CLOSING THAT,
BECAUSE IT IS INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS.
AS A CYCLIST, I HATE DOING THAT ON CYPRESS GETTING RID OF
PORK CHOPS IS GOOD FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT THE PICTURE ON THE FAR LEFT, WHERE YOU ARE SHOWING BIKE
LANES AND PARKING.
I DON'T KNOW IF IS A PLAN OR JUST AN IDEA, BUT I WOULD BE
REMISS AS A CYCLIST IF I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT MOVING THE CYCLE
TRACK INSIDE --
06:47:50PM >> TO THE OUTSIDE, YOU MEAN.
06:47:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HAVING PARKING ON THE OTHER SIDE.
IT IS INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS.
AND I -- I LOVE WHAT DOWNTOWN HAS DONE ON -- ON JACKSON,
CASS.
HAVING -- HAVING THE PARKING ON THE OUTSIDE --
06:48:06PM >> APOLOGIZE TO INTERRUPT, BUT THE FINAL PLAN WHICH WE WERE
SHOWING AND IT IS -- SUCH A SMALL SCALE.
ACTUALLY THE CYCLE TRACK IS ON THE INSIDE.
AND WE ARE WORKING WITH MOBILITY TO CONNECT THAT FROM THE
ROUNDABOUT AT THE HEIGHTS TO THE CASS STREET CYCLE TRACK.
SO THAT IS THE FINAL DESIGN THAT HAS BEEN -- YOU KNOW --
06:48:30PM >> WE CAN MAKE SURE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING THAT IS
ADJUSTED TO.
06:48:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT AS A CYCLIST AND
SOMEONE WHO IS ALWAYS FOCUSED ON THAT.
THAT IS BEST DESIGNED.
MY ONLY OTHER CONCERN THAT I AM HEARING FROM RESIDENTS, AND,
AGAIN, WE WOULD BE REMISS AS COUNCILMEMBERS, ESPECIALLY IN
THIS GIANT HOUSING CRISIS IF WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT -- I KNOW
THIS HAS NOTHING TO ABOUT WITH REZONING, BUT I AM TO ASK, IF
WE HAVE PLANS FOR THE PEOPLE CURRENTLY LIVING THERE.
06:49:00PM >> WE CAN EXPLAIN.
THE COMPLEX IS COVERED UNDER THE RULES FOR HUD.
THERE IS -- WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE RELOCATION PROCESS.
IT IS A MINIMUM OF 24 MONTHS.
06:49:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APPRECIATE THAT.
THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW.
06:49:13PM >> NOTICE.
ASSISTANCE WITH RELOCATION.
THE PROCESS WILL TAKE TWO TO THREE YEARS.
WE HAVE NOT STARTED THAT PROCESS.
WE HAVE BEEN A STEWARD, REALLY, NOT -- WE HAVE SPENT EVERY
MONEY, PLUS ADDITIONAL CAPITAL TO KEEP THE PLACE GOING.
AND WE DON'T INTEND TO, YOU KNOW, STOP -- WE REQUIRED IT IN
2014 AND CHANGE IN 2016.
SO -- BUT WE -- ADDITIONALLY, WE HOPE TO FINALIZE AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY SO THAT THE 84-UNIT
HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM GETS -- RELOCATED WITHIN A HALF A
MILE OF THE PROJECT.
YOU TAKE ARMATURE WORKS AND 600 NEW JOBS.
YOU KNOW IT IS BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYBODY IF EVERYONE CAN LIVE
NEAR THE PLACE WHERE THEY WORK.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT IS GREAT TO THINK THAT THEY
WILL BE RE-CREATED, BY I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE ON EAST
HILLSBOROUGH OR NORTH OF FOWLER OR SO.
AND WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR LOCAL CONGRESS LADY AND IN THE
JACKSONVILLE OFFICE TO MAKE THAT TRANSFER TO THE HOUSING
AUTHORITY SO THOSE UNITS CAN BE RE-CREATED.
AND THAT IS STILL ON THE PRELIMINARY PHASES.
AS WE GET FURTHER ALONG, WE WILL MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS AND
HAVE A PLAN IN THAT.
06:50:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THAT -- I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
06:50:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
06:50:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS LOCATION HAS HAD A LOT OF HISTORY, NOT ONLY THERE BUT
AROUND TAMPA PREP.
THAT USED TO BE OLD PHILLIPS FIELD FOOTBALL.
WHEN THE FIRST PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL GAME WAS PLAYED THERE
BY THE STEELERS AND I FORGET WHO ELSE.
NOT ONLY THAT, I SAW ONE OF THE BEST FOOTBALL GAMES AT THAT
STADIUM EVER FROM A MIAMI TEAM AND THE ROBINSON KNIGHTS FOR
THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP WHEN THE MIAMI TEAM HAD A SKINNY
LITTLE QUARTERBACK NAMED LARRY RANZ.
AND TAMPA TEAM HAD RANDY SMITH AND LARRY SMITH.
LARRY SMITH ENDED UP BEING ALL-PRO RUNNING BACK FOR THE
REDSKINS AND OTHER FOR THE FLORIDA GATORS WAY BACK WHEN I
HAD LONG HAIR.
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE THE TAMPA PREP AREA WAS
THE OLD HAWK PLYMOUTH LOCATION.
SO IT HAS HAD A LOT OF EVOLUTION, A LOT OF CHANGES.
IN THIS SAME LOCATION WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, THE
DEVELOPER, I BELIEVE THAT WAS OWNED BY A GUY NAMED "GREEN"
WAY BACK.
AND THAT IS WHY I AM BALD.
THAT GUY HAD MORE CODE ENFORCEMENTS -- THINGS WRONG WITH HIS
LOCATION -- AND CODE ENFORCEMENT ALMOST LIVED THERE AND I AM
TALKING ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.
AND I THINK HE LIVED IN NEW YORK, I AM NOT SURE.
BUT I THINK IT WAS GREEN -- I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THE NAME BUT
I REMEMBER HE HAD THE CITY DANCING FOR A LONG TIME.
AND EVERYTHING COMES TO A GOOD END.
AND I HOPE THAT EVERYONE THAT LIVES THERE IS RELOCATED TO A
NICE PLACE.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID, WE HAVE A CRISIS.
AND THE CRISIS IS TAKEN OVER LIKE A DISEASE.
EVERYWHERE YOU GO, WHEREVER THEY LIVE, IT BECOMES --
SOMEBODY SELLS AND SOMEBODY BUYS AND THE ONES THAT GET
SQUEEZED OUT IS THE ONES THAT NEED IT THE MOST.
AND WE ARE TRYING TO FIND SOME LOCATIONS FOR THEM AND WE ARE
WORKING ON IT.
I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION IS.
AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME TO SOME RESOLUTION IN THE NEAR
FUTURE.
BUT THIS IS WHAT IS ON THE BOOKS NOW.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO GO BY.
WE CAN'T GO AND SUPERSEDE.
MAYBE WE HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES TO OUR CODE SO WE CAN THE
LEAST BALANCE OUT THE SITUATION, THE PLAYING FIELD.
AND I LIKE THE PROJECT.
WHEN YOU GET THE APPROVAL OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, THAT
MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM.
BECAUSE THEY WERE REALLY -- REALLY TICKLED ABOUT PARKING
PROBLEMS.
AND IT AS LOCATION WHERE YOU CAN WALK DOWNTOWN IF YOU WORK
DOWNTOWN.
AND WHATEVER CAPACITY, MEDICINE, LEGAL, CLERK, WHATEVER.
AND IT'S -- IT IS A LOCATION THAT IS SUITED FOR
TRANSPORTATION.
WITHOUT DENSITY, YOU WILL HAVE NO TRANSPORTATION.
AND THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE ALSO HAVE.
WE HAVE THE IDEA OF TRANSPORTATION AND MOVING PEOPLE FROM
POINT A TO POINT B, BUT THE DENSITY IS NOT QUITE THERE.
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE LACK OF IT.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:53:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
ON BOTH AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 7, VAC 22-10.
AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, REZ 22-47.
06:54:10PM >> COME RIGHT UP?
06:54:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MA'AM.
06:54:19PM >> ALL RIGHT, CHARLIE.
DELPHINE JONES, LaSALLE STREET.
VICE PRESIDENT --
[INAUDIBLE]
-- GROUP.
ALSO CAC MEMBER, WEST TAMPA CAC.
WELL, OF COURSE, WE ARE THEA NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL BE
AFFECTED BY THE PROJECT AS YOU ALL KNOW.
BUT OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM IS -- TUESDAY IS WHEN MR. HARDEN
CONTACTED ME.
AND TO ME, THAT IS KIND OF, LIKE, DISRESPECTFUL.
BUT ON TOP OF THAT, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AS
A CAC BOARD FOR HIM TO COME IN FRONT OF THE CAC BOARD.
I ALREADY INVITED HIM FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS NEXT
WEEK.
AND HE DID SAY ACCORDING TO JESUS, OUR MANAGER, THAT HE
WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT.
THIS IS AN OLD COMPLEX.
I THINK IT WAS BUILT IN 1974.
I AM 63.
I HAVE BEEN IN THAT AREA ALL MY LIFE.
WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR 27 YEARS -- 20 YEARS I HAVEN'T HAD
ANY PEACE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOW THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS PROJECT IS THAT THE HEIGHT.
NOW THE PICTURE HE SHOWED YOU GUYS -- SORRY, SHOWED YOU ALL
-- DON'T WANT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL ABOUT THE HOTEL.
WE -- I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT UNTIL HE JUST PUT THAT UP THERE.
THAT IS HUGE AND MASSIVE.
SO THAT IS GOING TO BLOCK THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN.
EVEN THOUGH HIS SELLING POINTS ARE NICE, IT IS STILL A
NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IT IS GOING TO IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE WEST RIVERFRONT.
OF COURSE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS NAMED BEHIND
THAT.
BUT WE HAVE A PARK.
AND CAN YOU ALL IMAGINE WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC AND OVERFLOW
THAT COMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD -- WHEN I SAY WE DON'T HAVE
ANY PEACE.
SO THAT -- THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS.
THEN -- I SEE HERE THAT IT SAID IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE 7.5
ACRES WHEN WE LOOK IT UP.
28 GARDEN APARTMENTS.
BUT THEN I HEARD SOMEONE SAY 9.5 ACRES.
OKAY.
SO WHAT ARE THE APARTMENTS GOING TO BE?
TWO BEDROOMS, THREE BEDROOMS, ONE BEDROOMS.
HOW MANY CARS.
USUALLY IF YOU HAVE APARTMENTS, AT LEAST TWO CARS THERE.
WE ALL HAVE PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW WITH U.T. STUDENTS.
IT CAN'T BE THREE MINUTES ALREADY.
WE ALREADY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH U.T. STUDENTS THAT OVERFLOW.
AT THIS POINT WE NEED TO GET RESIDENT PERMIT PARKING BECAUSE
WE CAN'T GET INTO OUR OWN RESIDENCE WHEN SOMETHING IS GOING
ON.
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO OF THE IMPACT OF THAT.
HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING AND RELOCATING.
EVERYTHING HE SAYS SOUNDS GOOD.
I HOPE HE HOLDS UP TO THAT STANDARD.
HE SAYS TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
WHERE IS THE PROOF -- BACK TO THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT, THE
TALLEST BUILDING IN THE CRA OVERLAY IS BETHUNE HIGH RISE AND
THAT IS BECAUSE IT WAS GRANDFATHERED IN.
THAT PICTURE HE SHOWED, I COULDN'T TELL HOW MANY STORIES IT
WAS.
06:57:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
06:57:46PM >> I AM OVER?
THREE MINUTES -- YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.
OKAY.
WELL.
06:57:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANOTHER 30 SECONDS.
06:57:56PM >> THANK YOU.
OKAY.
SO IS IT GOING TO BE ON-SITE PARKING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT AFFORDABILITY.
WHAT IS AFFORDABILITY TO HIM, $1,000 A MONTH OR TWO $25,000.
AND SO FAR THE ST. LOUIS AND LEMON AND DELAWARE AND ALL
THAT, THAT IS IMPACTING PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN WHAT KIND OF BEN IT'S ARE YOU GOING TO PROVIDE.
YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
THE ROME YARD AGREEMENT, HAS HE LOOKED AT THAT?
SO I THINK HE NEEDS TO COME TO THE PUBLIC AND GIVE US AN
EXPLANATION AND EVERYTHING HE SAID HERE COME AND TELL THE
PEOPLE, ACCEPT IN OAK HURST.
THAT IS 120 UNITS.
HE IS PROPOSING AT LEAST 88 MORE UNITS.
THAT IS NOT EVEN ADDITIONAL TO WHAT IS ON THAT SITE.
SO I THINK THE PEOPLE DESERVE A -- A PRESENTATION AND TO SEE
THAT PICTURE THAT HE PUT UP WITH -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY
STORIES OF THE HOTEL THAT IS GOING TO BE THERE.
06:59:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
COMMENT?
ALL RIGHT, ONLINE WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE.
THAT WOULD LEAK TO GIVE COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 7 AND 8.
AND I SEE ALL FOUR OF THEM.
WOULD YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS TO BE SWORN IN.
MISS SANCHEZ.
[SWEARING IN]
THANK YOU.
06:59:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MISS BENNETT, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
06:59:54PM >> HI, I AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT, A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF
TAMPA DELPHINE JONES CONTACTED ME AND VERY CONCERNED THERE
HAS BEEN NO COMMUNITY MEETINGS ABOUT THIS WHATSOEVER.
I FIND THAT SO DISCOURAGING.
THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ASKING FOR THE CONTINUANCE, HE WENT OUT
OF THE WAY TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, TO TALK TO THE
COMMUNITY.
HE OFFERED TO WALK US THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
AND HIS PROJECT IS NOWHERE NEAR -- NOT EVEN THE FRACTION OF
THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS ONE.
I THINK IT IS SO DISRESPECTFUL.
THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE DID NOT GET A NOTICE.
BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO A NOTICE.
AND THAT IS JUST WRONG.
AND THAT NOTICE SHOULD INCLUDE A PHONE NUMBER OR E-MAIL
AADDRESS OR SOME WAY FOR THEM TO CONTACT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION OR CONTACT T.H.A.N. AND ASK QUESTIONS.
BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE DEVELOPER AND
SAY YOU HAVE GOT TO GIVE THESE PEOPLE A COMMUNITY MEETING.
THEY HAVE QUESTIONS.
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
THEY HAVE INPUT.
THEY KNOW THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BEST.
SOME OF THEM LIVED THERE FOR 60 YEARS.
THEY CAN PROBABLY GIVE INSIGHT TO MAKE THE PROJECT BETTER.
I NOTICE ON THE TRANSPORTATION, THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE
MANUEVERING REQUIREMENTS.
I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT ADDRESSED.
I DON'T LIKE THIS -- WELL, WE WILL APPROVE IT TODAY AND
SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE WE WILL START TALKING ABOUT THESE
OTHER THINGS.
I DON'T LIKE THAT AT ALL.
IF THEY MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY TELLS THEM
AND TALKS TO THEM.
WHAT THEY NEED AND WHAT THEY WANT, THE PROJECT WILL BE
BETTER.
AND EVEN IF THEY CAN'T STAY THERE OR THEY ARE NOT GOING TO
BE ABLE TO LIVE THERE AFTER THE PROJECT IS FINISHED, AT
LEAST HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE THEIR VOICE ITS HEARD AND
QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
I THINK THIS SHOULD BE CONTINUED UNTIL THE DEVELOPER CAN
MEET WITH THIS COMMUNITY AND ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS.
I ALSO AM NOT REALLY HAPPY AT ALL OF THE NUMBER OF TREES
THEY ARE REMOVING.
11% RETENTION OF TYPE ONE TREES.
ALL THE OTHER TREES, 52% THAT THEY ARE RETAINING PALM TREES
THEY ARE TRANSPLANTING.
PALM TREES ARE JUST BIG PIECES OF GRASS, PEOPLE.
THEY DON'T DO A THING.
11% RETENTION OF TREES OF ALL THOSE GRAND TREES, I WOULD
LIKE TO SEE CREATIVITY LIKE THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE YOU BEFORE
EXHIBITED.
I ASK YOU TO POSTPONE THIS.
AND ASK FOR THE DEVELOP TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU.
07:02:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. RAMIREZ.
07:02:29PM >> CARLOS RAMIREZ.
I WAS JUST SWORN.
AS YOU KNOW, I AM IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALWAYS HELPS WHEN
SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS ALIGN AND MAKES MY JOB A LITTLE
BIT EASIER, BUT TODAY REPRESENT THE NORTH HYDE PARK ALLIANCE
AND THE NORTH HYDE PARK CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND NEIGHBORHOOD
WATCH.
I ALREADY SENT A LETTER ON BEHALF OF THE WEST TAMPA CRA CAC
SAYING WE CAN NOT SUPPORT THE VACATING AND REZONING BECAUSE
A LACK OF DETAIL OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.
IN THE LETTER, I ALSO INCLUDED SOME OF THE POSITIVE
ATTRIBUTES OF THIS FILING, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE CONCERNS
THAT WE HAVE.
BUT FIRST, LET ME BEGIN BY SAYING WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT
REDEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.
THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOWARD.
IT IS INDEED TIME FOR WEST TAMPA.
WE ARE PASSIONATE MAKING SURE WE DO THINGS RIGHT BY OUR
COMMUNITY.
SO LET'S START WITH SOME POSITIVES.
THINGS WE LIKE.
WE LIKE THE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS GOING THROUGH THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY PARK.
WE LIKE THE COMPLETE STREET TYPICALS.
IT IS GOING TO PROVIDE SOME MULTIPLE MOBILITY OPTIONS THAT
WILL IMPROVE LIGHTING.
WE ALSO LIKE THE MIXED USE.
WE ALSO EVEN LIKE THE DENSITY, BECAUSE THIS WILL ACTIVATE
THIS AREA AND THE AREA IN FRONT OF JULIAN B. LANE PARK.
CONCERNS THAT WE DO HAVE.
WE DO HAVE A CONCERN REGARDING THE HEIGHT.
WE ARE ASKING FOR A STEP DOWN OF THE BUILDINGS FACING
RESIDENTIAL.
CURRENT PD CONDITIONS SAY IT CAN BE SET DOWN TO 26 FEET,
HOWEVER THAT IS EIGHT STORIES HIGH BY RIGHT.
WHILE THEY MAY DO LESS, AND THEY MAY ALSO BE ABLE TO DO A
PEDESTRIAN-SCALE STREETSCAPE AND BLEND WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
AND NOT GUARANTEED AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY DETAILS ON THAT.
VACATING, EDISON.
WE ARE NOT SURE HOW THIS WILL IMPACT THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN THERE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY DETAILS ON FUTURE BUILDING LAYOUTS,
INCREASED TRAFFIC VOLUMES THAT MAY CALL FROM THE
DEVELOPMENT.
ALSO, REMOVING THE RIGHT TURN FREE THROW LANES, WHILE IT MAY
CAUSE A SAFER CONDITION AND TRAFFIC CALMING EFFECT, IT MAY
HAVE THE OPPOSITE.
AS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, ANY TIME A FREE FLOW LANE, WE HAVE TO
DO A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT ANY TRAFFIC FROM THE DEVELOPMENT
OR GROWTH FROM THE AREA AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA
WILL NOT CAUSE AN UNSAFE CONDITION WITH BACK-UPS.
BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT YET.
THE DISPLACEMENT OF THE RESIDENTS AT OAK HURST.
I HAVE CONVERSATION WITH MR. HARDEN, AND HE SEEMS TO
UNDERSTAND THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY INTACT
AND HE HAS MENTIONED THAT HE IS WORK WITH LEROY MOORE WITH
THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR A SOLUTION, WHICH IS GREAT,
HOWEVER, WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS YET.
AND THEN THE REAL CONCERN, I GUESS, IS THE PROCESS.
AND THE LACK OF COMMUNITY INTERACTION ONCE IT PASS THIS
STAGE.
WE HAD A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE WITH A PROCESS WITH THE GROCERY
STORE ON MAIN AND NORTH BOULEVARD AND PUBLIX.
IT PASSED THE REZONING AND THEN THERE WERE INCREMENTAL.
WE SAW THAT THERE WAS ERRORS TO IT AND WE COULDN'T DO
ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND IT WAS TOO LATE.
WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE THIS AFTER THE DEVELOPER HAS MET
WITH THE WEST TAMPA INFRASTRUCTURE SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE 20th.
YOU ARE ALREADY ON THE AGENDA.
AND WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU INCLUDE A PD CONDITION WHERE THE
COMMUNITY GETS INPUT AT EACH PHASE OF THIS.
OR JUST GO WITH THE TRADITIONAL REZONING.
I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
07:06:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. RAMIREZ.
MISS SANCHEZ.
YOU ARE MUTED, MISS SANCHEZ.
07:06:10PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
MISS SANCHEZ, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
07:06:16PM >> OKAY.
OKAY.
GOOD EVENING.
SANDY SANCHEZ, 2705 -- GARDEN COMMUNITY.
CITY COUNCIL, I HAVE CONCERNS ON THIS REQUEST TO VACATE
STREET -- A STREET WHICH IS NOT AN ALLEY BUT A PD FOR
ZONING.
I WILL ASK THAT YOU DELAY APPROVING THIS VACANCY AND
REZONING TO PD.
APPROVING THE PD AT THIS TIME GIVES THE DEVELOPER CART
BLANCHE TO BUILD WHAT HE WANTS.
I SPOKE TO MR. HARDEN ON TUESDAY AND HE SAID NO PLANS FOR
COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
I HEAR HOW THIS THAT HE IS TALKING OF SOME BIGGER PLANS, BUT
WHAT THEY NEED IS DIRECT CONTACT WITH THIS COMMUNITY.
BUT MY CONCERN LIES MAINLY WITH THE DISPLACEMENT OF
FAMILIES.
COUNCILMAN GUDES, MAYBE THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE CONCERNED WITH,
NOT VACANCY BUT DISPLACEMENT OF FAMILIES.
ALL OF YOU SHOULD BE CONCERNED OF THIS.
I RECEIVED A CALL FOR HELP WEDNESDAY MORNING FROM A
NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER WITH CLOSE TIES WITHIN THE PROPOSED
COMMUNITY THAT IS TO BE LEVELED.
I WAS MADE AWARE OF THE PLACEMENT OF FAMILIES.
I REACTED AS A HUMAN BEING NOT AS A DEVELOPER WITH LITTLE
CONCERN OF HUMAN FRAILTY.
I AM A COMMUNITY ACTIVIST LAND IN TAMPA.
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT HAD THE DISTANCE IS.
THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN SUBSIDIZED HOUSING FOR YEARS.
IF YOU APPROVE THIS WITHOUT FURTHER CONVERSATION, YOU WOULD
BE APPROVING ANOTHER UNAFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPLEX.
BUT MY CONCERN IS 200-PLUS PEOPLE THAT RESIDE IN THESE
APARTMENTS AND WHAT IS THE PLANS FOR RELOCATION.
IN SPEAKING SO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS ON WEDNESDAY, THEY
APPEAR TO BE CONFUSED AND NOT KNOWING WHAT TO EXPECT.
COULD THIS POSSIBLY BE -- IF THIS GOES THROUGH, COULD THIS
POSSIBLY BE THE PROSPECT FOR THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
AGREEMENT?
THAT SHOULD BE TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE SOME INPUT FROM THIS
DEVELOPER, IF IT IS APPROVED, TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.
TO APPROVE THIS NOW IS LIKE PUTTING A CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE DENY OR POSTPONE THIS REQUEST AT THIS
TIME.
THANK YOU.
07:08:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
MISS POYNOR.
YOU ARE MUTED, MISS POYNOR.
YOU ARE STILL MUTED.
MISS POYNOR.
YOU ARE STILL MUTED.
07:08:55PM >>CLERK:
MISS POYNOR, YOU ARE MUTED ON THE PLATFORM.
IT MAY BE YOUR ACTUAL EQUIPMENT TO BE UNMUTED.
07:09:07PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
WE STILL CAN'T HEAR YOU.
07:09:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU ARE STILL MUTED.
WE HEARD THAT.
[LAUGHTER]
NOW?
07:09:27PM >> NOW YOU CAN HEAR ME.
OKAY.
THIS IS THE MOST PREMATURELY BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL PD THAT
I EVER HAVE SEEN.
MY MOUTH IS HANGING OPEN.
APPROVE THIS NOW AND WE WILL TELL YOU WHAT WE ARE GOING TO
DO LATER.
APPROVE THIS NOW, AND WE WILL PUT SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN
IT.
APPROVE THIS NOW BECAUSE GRANT PETERSON SAID IT IS A GREAT
IDEA.
BUT MR. RAMIREZ IS ALSO FROM NORTH HYDE PARK, SO WHO IS
TELLING THE STORY CORRECTLY.
I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT MR. PETERSON IS A COMMERCIAL REAL
ESTATE BROKER.
SO YOU DO THE MATH.
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS UNTIL YESTERDAY, SO I HAVEN'T HAD A
WHOLE LOT OF TIME TO DO MY HOMEWORK, BUT THE INCONSISTENCY
THAT I HEARD SPOKEN TO THIS COUNCIL THIS EVENING MAKES ME
WANT TO FALL OUT ON THE FLOOR BECAUSE I AM HAVING THE
VAPORS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN POSSIBLY EVEN CONSIDER APPROVING A
PROJECT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A SITE PLAN.
THAT DOESN'T HAVE ELEVATIONS.
THAT DOESN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THERE ARE 20
FAMILIES ALREADY LIVING THERE.
JUST -- MY MINDS IS BLOWN.
AND THIS GENTLEMAN, ADAM -- WHATEVER HIS LAST NAME IS.
HE SENDS ME AN E-MAIL THIS AFTERNOON KINDS OF POMPOUSLY
WONDERING WHY I WANT TO GET INVOLVED.
WELL, YOU HAVEN'T MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF YOU HAVEN'T MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THEN WHAT ARE YOU
DOING?
I AM SORRY, YOU HAVEN'T EVEN TOLD THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE
THAT YOU ARE PLANNING ON DESTROYING THE PLACE THEY LIVED.
THEY LIVED MOST OF THEIR LIVES.
AND YOU ARE GOING -- AND -- IT BEFUDDLES ME.
I AM JUST -- YOU KNOW, WE HAVE -- EVERYBODY WHO IS SITTING
TO THAN COUNCIL RIGHT NOW KNOWS THAT CARROLL ANN AND I HAVE
DEALT WITH MANY HUGE PROJECTS, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS ONE
IS A JOKE.
AND I AM NOT PLAYING.
AND I DON'T CARE WHO I OFFEND.
BECAUSE SERIOUSLY, Y'ALL CANNOT APPROVE THIS NONSENSE.
WE MIGHT GET AROUND IT TO LATER.
NO BROKERAGE WITH THE CITY.
NO BROKERAGE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
HE IS GIVING YOU 10% WORTH OF FLUFF.
PLEASE CONTINUE THIS.
THEY HAVE NOT ASKED -- NOT MET WITH THE WEST TAMPA CRA.
HAVE NOT SPOKE TO THE WEST TAMPA FOLKS.
REALLY?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
A 70-YEAR-OLD WOMAN COME TO ME YESTERDAY AND SAY, HEY, WE
NEED HELP WITH THIS.
NO, I DON'T KNOW ALL ABOUT IT, BUT, MAN, WHEN I WATCHED
THIS, MY MOUTH IS AGAPE.
Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
07:12:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MISS POYNOR.
ANYONE ELSE -- IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO GIVE ANY TYPE OF
COMMENTS, PUBLIC COMMENTS?
MR. HARDEN, REBUTTAL.
07:12:21PM >> THANK YOU, CATHERINE COYLE AND ADAM WILL SPEAK AS WELL.
I DO WANT TO ENTER INTO INTO THE RECORD IS THE INFORMATION I
SHOWED EARLIER.
FIRST -- FIRST THINGS FIRST.
WE PROVIDED NOTICE TO ALL SIX OR SEVEN ORGANIZATIONS NOTICED
30 DAYS PRIOR.
SINCE THAT TIME ADAM HAS REACHED OUT TO AS MANY OF THEM AS
HE COULD TO GET LETTERS AND DISCUSS THE PROJECT.
AS YOU HEARD MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN CONTACTED.
I HAD A VERY NICE CONVERSATION CAN KEELA McCASKILL WHOSE
MOTHER LIVES IN OAK HURST AND THE SECRETARY OF T.H.A.N. AND
VERY NICE DECISION.
SHE MADE THE DECISION NOT TO COME TONIGHT.
SHE HAD ANOTHER MEETING TO GO TO AND HER POINT TO ME ONCE
SHE FIGURED OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON, SHE IS LIKE, I GUESS I
DON'T REALLY NEED TO GO.
A VERY LOVELY CONVERSATION.
THE -- I CAN GO POINT BY POINT FOR EACH ONE THAT WAS MADE.
LAST SPEAKER --
07:13:27PM >> I HAVE ONE POINT THAT I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE.
VERY DISAPPOINTING TO ME BECAUSE I FEEL THIS T.H.A.N. HAS
BEEN HIJACKED AND A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND YOU GUYS KNOW ME.
SO YOU KNOW THAT WOULD BE ARMATURE WORKS, EXIGEN, INSURANCE
-- THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED AT THE HEIGHTS.
YOU KNOW, $0 MILLION PUBLIC PROJECT, EXTENSION.
THESE ARE COMMITMENTS WE MADE TO YOU AND THINGS THAT WE
FOLLOW THROUGH ON.
SO THE IDEA THAT -- THAT WE CAN GET ALL THIS COMMUNICATION
SENT IN HERE AS IF IT IS REPRESENTING A NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN
THERE WAS NO MEETING.
THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF ALL THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS
DID NOT GO TO A T.H.A.N. MEETING AND VOTE TO HAVE THIS
NONSENSE CENTS IN HERE AND PERSONAL ATTACKS MADE ON SOMEBODY
WHO HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS SITE NOW SINCE 2014.
THIS IS -- IT'S CONCERNING TO ME.
I DON'T KNOW HOW Y'ALL DEAL WITH IT.
BUT THE SAME FOUR PEOPLE.
I HAVE BEEN HERE LIKE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES RECENTLY.
AND I HEAR THIS RANT, AND IT IS JUST EMBARRASSING TO ME --
FOR THE CITY IN ALL HONESTY.
SO WITH THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, JUDGE US BY WHAT WE DO.
IT IS A GOOD PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T HAVE THE DENSITY WITHOUT THE HEIGHT.
YOU KNOW THE URBAN RENEWAL THAT CAPPED OFF THE BLACK
NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND WITH HUGE MONOLITHIC AND SOLD THEM TO
THE SHIMBERGS IN THE '70s TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
TURNED THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY INTO THE PARK IS WHAT WE
ARE TRYING TO REVERSE.
WE SHOWED YOU A PLAN.
WE MET ON-SITE.
I SPENT FOUR OR FIVE HOURS IN THE STREET WITH YOUR HEAD OF
MOBILITY, WITH THE URBAN PLANNER.
WE HAVE COME UP WITH THE CONCEPT TO PUT THESE CROSS
CONNECTIONS BACK.
ALL THESE THINGS ARE CONDITIONED IN THE ZONING.
IT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.
WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT -- WHAT THE STREETSCAPE WILL LOOK LIKE
BECAUSE TWO PAGES OF PICTURES WHAT IT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE
IN THE PLAN.
THIS COMES FORWARD AS A 1,250,000-SQUARE-FOOT DEVELOPMENT
AND LIKELY CONSTRUCTED IN FOUR PHASES.
YOU KNOW THE CITY CODE IS -- IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, YOU
HAVE A PERSONAL APPEARANCE, A MINOR MODIFICATION, MAJOR
MODIFICATION AND A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING.
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, YOU HAVE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING, DRIVEWAY, A PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT ZONING.
ONE OTHER TECHNICAL MATTER.
AND I AM DONE.
BUT THE -- THIS BACKING ISSUE IS ANOTHER -- IS ANOTHER
RAISED BY ONE OF THE FOLKS IS ANOTHER ISSUE, WHICH IS A
STANDARD WAIVER YOU HAVE GRANTED FOR THE LAST 16 OR SOME PDs
IN THE URBAN CORE.
YOU WERE CONCERNED WITH COST.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST THING WE CAN DO IS ADDRESS SUPPLY
AND DEMAND WITH THAT COST.
THEN WE CAN LOOK AT DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SUBSIDY BEYOND THAT.
BUT THE URBAN CODE THAT CREATED 915 FRANKLIN WHERE I DRIVE
UP FLORIDA AVENUE.
AND THERE IS JUST A BLANKED-OUT WALL AND HUGE TRANSFORMER
GRILLES IS BROKEN.
WE COME TO YOU WITH WAIVERS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO MAKE IT A
WALKABLE, LIVABLE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE COMMITTED IN ADVANCE TO RECONNECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD
BEHIND THE BARK, TO MAKE THE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AND
GIVEN OURSELVES 120 DAYS TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH A
COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
THOSE ARE ALL CONDITIONS.
07:17:07PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:17:10PM >> IF I COULD --
07:17:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OTHER PEOPLE AHEAD OF YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
MISS COYLE.
07:17:17PM >> WE HAVE A FEW SECONDS LEFT.
I WANTED TO REBUT A COUPLE OF COMMENCE.
MR. RAMIREZ NOTE THAT THERE WAS NO TRIP INFORMATION OR
TRANSPORTATION INFORMATION.
THERE WAS ALMOST 200-PAGE TRAFFIC STUDY AS DONE -- AS
REQUIRED TO GO ALONG WITH THIS.
THAT IS WHERE THE MATRIX CAME FROM.
THAT IS JUST THE STANDARD STANDARD PRACTICE --
07:17:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
30 SECONDS.
07:17:42PM >> OKAY.
I DO WANT TO ENTER THIS INTO THE RECORD AS -- JUST TO
REITERATE REALLY QUICKLY.
WE ARE ASKING FOR 2.75 FOR VERTICAL WALL MIXED USE WHICH IS WHAT
IS ALLOWED.
WE ARE NOT ACTUALLY SEEKING BONUS AT THIS TIME, ALL RIGHT.
SO WE ARE NOT ACTUALLY ASKING TO GET ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT
THE COMP PLAN ACTUALLY ALLOWS.
TO SAY YOU LIKE THE DENSITY AND INTENSITY IS WONDERFUL AND
MR. RAMIREZ SAID HE LIKES THE DENSITY AND INTENSITY.
THE ONLY WAY TO GET IT THROUGH THE HEIGHTS AND THE BLOCKS
ARE SMALL AND NARROW.
ONE GOES WITH THE OTHER.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
07:18:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
07:18:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
T.H.A.N. WASN'T HIJACKED.
I USED TO BE A PART OF IT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND IT WAS DYING.
A LOT OF PEOPLE PASSED AWAY SINCE, AND A POINT THERE WHERE
IT WAS VIRTUALLY NONEXISTENT.
NOW IT HAS JUST BEEN REENERGIZED AND REVITALIZED BECAUSE SO
MUCH GOING ON IN THE CITY.
TEN YEARS AGO, THE GREAT RECESSION AND THAT IS WHEN I GOT
INVOLVED IN THAT ERA.
SO NOW YOU HAVE NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN IT AND VERY
PASSIONATE NOT JUST ON THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS IS WHY WE
ARE SEEING THAT.
MY QUESTION IS SEVERAL PEOPLE I MENTIONED THAT THE
NEIGHBORHOOD JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.
ER IN FLABBERGASTED.
IF WE ARE TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL OCTOBER 6 AND 13 WHERE WE
HAVE EVENING SESSIONS.
WHAT IS 30 DAYS.
IT WOULDN'T STALL OR KILL THE PROJECT, JUST TO GIVE THE
COURTESY.
BECAUSE IT IS A BIG PROJECT.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE AMENABLE TO.
07:19:21PM >> WE ARE CURRENTLY SCHEDULED TO MEET WITH THE WEST TAMPA
CAC ON SEPTEMBER 20, WHICH IS BETWEEN OUR FIRST AND SECOND
READING.
SO I TAKE -- YOU KNOW -- THE COMMUNICATIONS HAVE BEEN GOING
ON WITH CARLOS FOR TWO MONTHS.
SO HE HAD INDICATED THAT HE WAS GOING TO TRANSMIT THESE
PLANS.
THE PLANS WERE, IN FACT, REVIEWED AT THE CAC MEETING.
YOU KNOW I HAVE COME TO YOU THREE TIMES TO REZONE THE
HEIGHTS WITH THREE WRITTEN LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THE JAY
SI SENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
I EVEN REACHED OUT TO SANDY SANCHEZ, WHO PUTS HER NAME IN TO
RECEIVE NOTICE FOR PROJECTS IN SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS,
BUT ARMORY GARDENS IS MILES FROM THE PROJECT.
BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HER AND GOTTEN ANY QUESTIONS.
I FUNDS HER PHONE NUMBER AND CALLED HER AND HAD A
CONVERSATION WITH HER ON TUESDAY.
SO, YOU KNOW THERE ARE IS THE EXTENT TO WHICH I HAVE GONE.
DID I -- I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY PURSUED WHEN I
COULDN'T GET A HOLD OF MISS McNAIR AND I WAS TRUSTING, YOU
KNOW, THAT CARLOS WAS DOING THIS COMMUNICATION BECAUSE HE
SAID HE WAS BASICALLY GETTING THE PLANS FOR ME, DISTRIBUTING
THEM TO -- TO THE WEST RIVER CRIME WATCH ASSOCIATION AND
THEN TAKING THEM TO THE CAC MEETING THAT HE CHAIRS, THAT
THAT IS WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE.
BUT WHEN I SPOKE WITH DELPHINE, I CALLED HER IN MY OWN
VOLITION BECAUSE I COULDN'T GET THROUGH TO RUTH.
THEN I WAS IMMEDIATELY FOUND OUT THAT SHE FELT LIKE SHE
DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.
THAT THE MEETING THAT THEY HAD TO DISCUSS IT WASN'T
ADEQUATE.
I HUNG UP THE PHONE.
CALLED JESUS AND ASKED IF I COULD BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
SO DO WE WANT TO DELAY THIS FURTHER, NO, SIR, WE DON'T.
07:21:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:21:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:21:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. HARDEN?
07:21:23PM >> YES, SIR.
07:21:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU GOT A LITTLE FRUSTRATED.
I UNDERSTAND.
YOU ARE A GREAT DEVELOPER.
YOU DO GREAT WORK IN THE COMMUNITY.
AMATEUR WORKS IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS AREA.
MIGRATES AUNT LIVED 206 WEST PARK AND THAT WHOLE COMMUNITY
JUST TRANSFORMED.
I DON'T ALMOST RECOGNIZE IT ANYMORE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
WHEN PEOPLE SEE NEIGHBORHOODS CHANGE, PEOPLE THAT ONCE
LOOKED LIKE THEM DON'T LOOK LIKE THEM ANYMORE, THEY RAISE
QUESTION.
YOU TALKED ABOUT T.H.A.N.
I AM GRATEFUL TO T.H.A.N., BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE
ENGAGED IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND I KNOW MISS McNAIR VERY PERSONALLY.
THEY ARE ENGAGED.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED OF THE WEST RIVER ASSOCIATION.
THE NORTH HYDE PARK ASSOCIATION.
THREE DIFFERENT ASSOCIATION THAT ARE VERY, VERY ACTIVE IN
THERE.
TOP ME, THEY ALWAYS COMMUNICATE AND GET BACK TO PEOPLE.
THAT THEY DIDN'T GET BACK McNAIR THAT LIVES RIGHT OFF OF
NASSAU.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THINGS DO HAPPEN THROUGH THE CRACKS.
BUT FOR ME, I DON'T THINK THE COMMUNICATION IS ALL BEEN
THERE.
I JUST -- I MEAN, THIS IS A MAJOR PROJECT FOR ME.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT COMMUNITY WELL.
I KNOW THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ON THERE RIGHT NOW WELL.
AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT SOME OF THE FOLKS FROM
T.H.A.N. ARE LEGITIMATE.
YOU KNOW YOU TALK ABOUT FAMILIES THAT LIVE THERE NOW.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROJECT.
NO WAY SOME OF THOSE FAMILIES THERE WILL BE LIVING THERE
ONCE THE PROJECT IS BUILT.
THEY DON'T SEE THAT.
SEE THE BEAUTIFUL PICTURE YOU SHOWED -- I DON'T SEE THOSE
FOLKS LIVING THERE.
I JUST DON'T.
I AM JUST GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
THAT IS PROBABLY A CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OF WHO IS
GOING TO BE LIVING THERE.
IT HAPPENED IS A VALID CONCERN.
A CONVERSATION.
YOU TALK OF A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT THAT I GOT TO
IMPLEMENT BACK IN 2019.
AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE CITIES -- THE CITY IS COMING UP
TOO.
THIS DOESN'T AFFECT THAT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, BUT A LOT
OF QUESTIONS THAT THEY NEED TO ASK AND THE CAC IS ONE PART
OF IT.
I THINK FOR ME RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS AND
THE COMMUNITY IS NOT REALLY INVOLVED IN IT.
SO I AM KIND OF HAVING A HARD TIME RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I AM
LOOKING AT THE OVERALL PICTURE OF THE PROJECT IN THE
COMMUNITY.
07:23:37PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I DO WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING OF COMMUNITY
BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENTS CANNOT BE REQUIRED IN
CONNECTION WITH A LAND USE APPROVAL.
ONLY IF THE DEVELOPER IS SEEKING SOMETHING FROM THE CITY OR
THE -- OR THE CRA, AND THAT'S WHEN THAT CAN POTENTIALLY BE
IMPLEMENTED.
07:23:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT, AGAIN, THANK YOU, MR. HARDEN.
07:24:00PM >> YES, AT OUR OWN PERIL, WE COMMITTED IN THE PD TO A PORTION
OF THE -- TO ALREADY PROVIDE THE CROSS-ACCESSES THROUGH THE
PRIVATE PROPERTY TO RECONNECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE PARK.
AND THE -- AND THE UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS AND STUFF THAT ARE
REQUIRED FROM THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO GIVEN OURSELVES 120-DAY WINDOW TO GET FINAL PLANS AND BID
THEM OUT AND COME BACK TO YOU WHAT THAT PROPOSALS IS.
SO -- YOU KNOW, UNDERSTOOD.
07:24:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:24:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. HARDEN, I KNOW YOU ALSO FOR A DECENT
AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND I KNOW THE WORK THAT YOU DO.
AND I KNOW HOW THOUGHTFUL YOU ARE.
YOU ARE A VISIONARY.
YOU COME WITH GREAT IDEAS.
YOU COME UP WITH IDEAS NOT EVEN RELATED TO YOUR PROJECT THAT
YOU SUGGEST TO THE CITY.
I THINK YOU ARE KIND OF A POLICY WANT, WHICH I APPRECIATE.
I ALSO KNOW THAT THE T.H.A.N. PEOPLE VERY WELL.
AND, WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID IS TRUE THAT -- THE LAST
ADMINISTRATION WAS ANTI-NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THAT -- AND SOME PEOPLE DIED OFF AND WHAT HAPPENED IS
THAT THIS NEW GROUP CAME TOGETHER.
AND THEY ARE VERY ACTIVE.
DO YOU REMEMBER -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DEALT WITH
MARGARET VIZZI AND NOW WE HAVE EIGHT OF THEM AND THEY REALLY
KNOW HOW TO ORGANIZE.
AND WHAT -- WHAT EASILY CAN HAPPEN IS THEY KNOW HOW TO PACK
A ROOM.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IF THIS PASSES AT FIRST READING, I
WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO FULLY ENGAGE IN WHATEVER TIME
YOU HAVE, BECAUSE -- AND DON'T UNDERSTATEMENT THEM, BECAUSE
THEY -- THEY HAVE SPENT TWO OR THREE YEARS WITH W THE WHOLE
LEGAL TEAM OF THE CITY AND THE PLANNING PEOPLE AND THE MAYOR
AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
THEY KNOW HOW TO COME ARMED WITH COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE.
BUT THEY SHOWED US EXAMPLES IF FOLKS WORK WITH THEM, WHICH I
KNOW YOU KNOW HOW TO DO, THEN THEY CAN -- THEN THEY CAN
EASILY SUPPORT THINGS.
SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO WORK WITH THEM IF THAT
PASSES WITH FIRST READING SO THAT SECOND READING THEY EITHER
SUPPORT IT OR DON'T SHOW UP.
07:26:23PM >> RESPECTFULLY, I THINK THAT MY COMMENTS WITH REGARDING TO
THE HIJACKING HERE ARE THAT THE -- IF YOU READ THE CHARTER
FOR T.H.A.N.
IT IS AN UMBRELLA GROUP FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION.
SO IT HAS OFFICERS THAT ARE ELECTED BY ONE -- ONE MEMBER
FROM EACH OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO WHEN DID THEY HAVE A MEETING.
AND DETERMINED THAT THEY SHOULD SEND THEIR EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OR THEIR SECRETARY, THEIR VICE PRESIDENT FORWARD TO
OPPOSE THAT PROJECT.
SO THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN AND THAT IS WHERE THIS THING HAS BEEN
HIJACKED.
IT IS NOT RIGHT WHAT IS GOING ON HERE.
AND I -- I AM JUST POINT IT OUT.
IN MY OPINION.
07:27:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE SIDE -- WE SAID IN OUR MEETINGS THAT
PEOPLE IDENTIFY THEMSELVES CORRECTLY.
GRANT PETERSON.
YOU IDENTIFIED THAT HE IS HEAD OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
AND NOT REPRESENTING THEM TONIGHT.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY REPRESENTED THEMSELVES.
07:27:22PM >> YET CARLOS INDICATED HE WAS REPRESENTING THE NORTH HYDE
PARK ALLIANCE, EXCEPT THEY ALSO HAVEN'T HAD A MEETING.
SO HOW -- BUT THE ACTUAL PRESIDENT MADE IT CLEAR THAT HE
WASN'T.
THESE WERE HIS PERSONAL OPINIONS.
07:27:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LET ME ASK IF I COULD REAL FAST -- ASK MISS
WELLS A QUESTION AND THEN YOU CAN RESPOND, MR. HARDEN.
A COMMENT MAIDS BY ONE OF THE SPEAKERS THAT SINCE THIS IS
A PD THERE WAS NOT -- THE NEXT ONE IS A PD, NOT SUFFICIENT
RENDERINGS FOR PLANS PUT IN THE FILE.
CAN YOU TESTIFY THAT THEY HAVE OR HAVEN'T PUT SUFFICIENT
RENDERING IN THE FILE.
07:28:01PM >>CATE WELLS:
IF I MAY REFER TO LaCHONE DOCK TO ADDRESS
THAT.
07:28:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
07:28:06PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YES, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THIS IS A PD WITH THE CONDITION TO PROVIDE -- TO SUBMIT FOR
APPROVAL THROUGH INCREMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS.
SO FOR THIS PD, THEY HAVE PROVIDED THE NECESSARY SITE PLAN
WHICH OUTLINES THE BOUNDARY WHICH WILL BE PROVIDED, BUT THEY
HAVE INCLUDED SOME DESIGN GUIDELINES AS PART OF THEIR PD.
THEY MET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED.
07:28:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FOR THE SAKE OF THE PUBLIC.
IF THIS PASSES IN FIRST AND SECOND READING, THEY STILL HAVE
TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL TO BUILD WHATEVER THEY ARE GOING TO
BUILD OR THIS IS THE FINAL APPROVAL.
07:28:45PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
AT THE FINAL APPROVAL AS THESE PHASES ARE
DEVELOPED, THE DEVELOPER SUBMITS FOR REVIEW, AND THAT IS
THROUGH INCREMENTAL REVIEW AND THAT IS ADMINISTRATIVE.
07:28:57PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST STAFF.
ANY FEEDBACK, MR. HARDEN?
07:29:03PM >> I'M SAME MIDTOWN AND ENCORE AND THE HEIGHTS WHICH IS A
LARGE PROJECT.
SO YOU KNOW, I AM SENSITIVE TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND I AM
ALSO FRUSTRATING AND FEELING LIKE I GOT SANDBAGGED BY
REACHING OUT TO SANDY SANCHEZ.
AND THAT SOME MISREPRESENTATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE BY THEFT
T.H.A.N. REPRESENTATIVES TODAY IN THEIR TESTIMONY.
I WOULD BE WILLING TO AGREE TO A CONTINUANCE TO 9/22 IF THAT
IS AMENABLE TO YOU AND HAVE OUR MEETING WHICH I SCHEDULED
FOR 9-20, AND WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU.
IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU.
07:29:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I, MR. CHAIR.
07:29:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HANG ON ONE SECOND, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:29:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I -- I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES.
YOU ARE KNOWN FOR GREATS WORK AND DESIGN YOU DO.
BUT I -- I ALSO LITERALLY JUST CAME FROM BEING A T.H.A.N.
MEMBER JUST FIVE MONTHS AGO.
AND I KNOW THE WORK THEY DO.
AND THE FACT THAT THEY WILL GO -- T.H.A.N. JUST GOES AND
BACKS UP A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS CONFUSED.
THAT ARE CONCERNS.
AND WHAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THIS, IS THEY ARE SAYING THEY
WEREN'T CONTACTED OR WORKED WITH.
SO I SUPPORT YOUR IDEA TO COME BACK ON SEPTEMBER 22 AFTER
HAVING HAD MORE COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE GROUPS, BECAUSE I
DO AGREE.
I THINK -- I THINK WITH -- WITH THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE IN
THE PAST, I HAVE FULL FAITH THAT THE GROUPS THAT -- WHEN
THINGS ARE EXPLAINED, IT WILL -- IT WILL BE A LITTLE MORE
CLEAR.
BUT WHAT IS HARD ABOUT THIS THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM
TRADITIONAL PDs IS WE ARE USED TO SEEING A FULL SITE PLAN.
THE COMMUNITY IS USED TO SEEING A FULL SITE PLAN.
THIS IS JUST SUCH AN UNUSUAL WAY OF DEALING WITH WHAT THE
COMMUNITY SEES AS -- IT IS.
IT IS A SMALL BUT LONG PROJECT.
IT IS A NARROW BUT RATHER LONG SPACE OF LAND.
THIS IS A BIGGER PROJECT, BUT ALSO, IT FEELS -- THE TWO
AREAS THAT IT CONNECTS THAT IS DIVIDES, THAT OAK HURST
DIVIDES, THE COMMUNITY HAS FELT DIVIDED FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND I AM HEARING WHAT YOU ARE SAYING OF WANTING TO BRING THE
CONNECTIVITY BACK.
AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY WILL EMBRACE THAT.
I THINK YOU NEED TO SHARE YOUR VISION A BIT MORE.
AND THE FACT THAT THIS WILL BE OUR ONLY BITE OF THIS AND WE
WON'T SEE THE INCREMENTAL PD WILL HELP ALLEVIATE ANY
CONCERNS WE HAVE AS WELL SO I THINK SEPTEMBER 22 IS A WISE
MOVE.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
07:31:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS DOCK AND THEN GOING TO COUNCILMAN
VIERA.
07:32:00PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YES, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
COUNCIL, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT SEPTEMBER 22 IN
ADDITION TO THE REZONING CASES WE HAVE ON SCHEDULE WHICH ARE
TEN CASES, WE HAVE FOUR CPAs, FOUR COMP PLAN AND ONE
VACATING, JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE FOR SEPTEMBER 22.
07:32:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:32:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
I APPRECIATE THE DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH, ETC.
I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF SPIRIT IN THE ROOM, ETC.
I THINK THE SPEAKER THAT I WANT TO POINT TO ESPECIALLY, MR.
RAMIREZ TALKED A LOT ABOUT SOME OF THE OBVIOUS AND OPEN
BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT.
AND I -- I THINK IT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE TO, SO TO
SPEAK, THROW OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATH WATER.
AND I THINK IT IS GOOD TO HAVE SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT,
ETC.
BECAUSE MR. HARDEN -- TO SAY HIS REPUTATION IS OPEN AND
OBVIOUS IN TAMPA IS A HECK OF AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AT THIS
PARTICULAR ONE, BUT, AGAIN, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE LOOK AT THIS WHOLE PICTURE.
BECAUSE THIS IS A -- A BIG PROJECT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO LET
GET AWAY WITH US WITHOUT THE PROPER SCRUTINY.
AGAIN, I WILL SUPPORT THE CONTINUANCE.
THANK YOU.
07:33:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND BACK TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:33:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU, SIR.
ONE OTHER QUICK THING.
I TALKED OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING
ADJACENT TO THIS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS THE PEOPLE THAT
ACTUALLY ARE LIVING IN THE FACILITY RIGHT NOW.
AND IT'S -- IT'S THE -- IT'S THE SAME -- SAME OR SIMILAR
ISSUE THAT ANOTHER PROJECT DOWN THE STREET HAD A YEAR OR TWO
AGO.
AND IT IS A PROBLEM THAT YOU -- YOU FACE AND WE FACE.
AND THAT IS WHY I ASKED MISS WELLS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS IN
THE BEGINNING.
CITY COUNCIL, FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY, IF CITY COUNCIL CAN'T
CONTROL WHETHER SOMEBODY IS PUTTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR
NOT UNLESS WE ARE SUBSIDIZING IT.
I WOULD ASK AS YOU ARE GOING OUT -- THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING
YOU TO TALK TO THE REST DENTS.
THAT IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE THAN DEALING WITH PEOPLE WHO
ARE LIVING ADJACENT TO IT.
AND I THINK THAT MAYBE AS OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAID, PLEASE.
WE HAVE HOUSING PEOPLE IN THE CITY TOO, BUT I WOULD JUST ASK
THAT YOU DO THAT IN A SENSITIVE WAY POSSIBLE.
BUT -- YOU OR SOMEBODY HAS TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE THE
REALITY THAT -- THAT THE CITY DOESN'T CONTROL THAT PROJECT.
IT IS NOT A CITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.
NOT A HOUSING AUTHORITY PROJECT.
AND IT IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN NORTH BOULEVARD HOMES.
AND SO -- SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU HELP US ALL IN TRYING
TO COMMUNICATE THAT EFFECTIVELY WITH THE -- WITH THE
RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO WITH THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE YOU -- YOU
PROBABLY HAVE SEEN OR HEARD THAT THE -- THE HUNDRED OF
PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME THROUGH HERE IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS TO
TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THANK YOU.
07:35:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:35:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I AM JUST TRYING TO LOOK OUT OF EVERYONE, YOU, THE
RESIDENTS, T.H.A.N., THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHATEVER.
I DON'T LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE FIGHTING AND A WONDERFUL PROJECT.
AND YOUR REPUTATION SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
WE KNOW THE QUALITY OF WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE HERE IN THIS
COMMUNITY.
IF WE DO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL SEPTEMBER 22, IT -- YES, AS
ALWAYS HAVE BEEN MENTIONED, COMP PLAN AND ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGE.
THEY USUALLY MOVE -- KNOCK ON WOOD, THEY MOVE FAIRLY QUICK.
SO GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET ON THE 20th.
HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING GETS ANSWERED AND THE 22 COULD GO
SMOOTHLY AND THAT'S IT.
BUT AT LEAST THE PEOPLE FEEL HEARD, WHATEVER.
HE SAID, SHE SAID.
BUT AT LEAST THERE IS A COMMUNICATION.
AND IT IS JUST A MATTER OF, WHAT, LESS THAN TWO WEEKS'
DIFFERENCE AND HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING WORKS OUT.
IF NOTHING ELSE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO
CONTINUE ITEM 7 AND 8 TO SEPTEMBER 22.
IF WE COULD PUT IT FIRST ON THE AGENDA AFTER THE TA/CPA AND
PLAN AMENDMENTS BEFORE THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES.
07:36:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LET ME GO TO MR. MASSEY.
SHOULD WE VOTE ON THEM SINGULARLY.
07:36:46PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I THINK YOU CAN MOVE THE TWO TOGETHER WITH
A ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:36:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE -- WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:36:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. HARDEN, DO YOU -- YOU WANT US TO
CONTINUE BOTH OR WANT US TO -- THE FIRST ONE IS A VACATION,
IT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PD, CONTINUE BOTH.
07:37:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ONE CAN'T BE DONE WITHOUT THE OTHER.
07:37:14PM >> WE CAN CONTINUE THEM BOTH.
07:37:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ONE CAN'T BE DONE WITHOUT THE OTHER.
THANK YOU MR. HARDEN.
07:37:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
07:37:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
07:37:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
07:37:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
07:37:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
07:37:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
07:37:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
07:37:29PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:37:32PM >> THANK YOU.
07:37:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER -- CAN WE HAVE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS
PLEASE.
[RECESS TAKEN]
07:38:01PM >>> WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.
ROLL CALL.
07:49:43PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
07:49:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
07:49:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
07:49:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.
07:49:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
07:49:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE WILL HEAR -- AND MR. VIERA IS HERE, CORRECT?
WE WILL -- WE WILL HEAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER -- FILE
NUMBER REZ 22-50.
07:50:03PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 9, REZ 22-50.
THE REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RS-50 TO RM-15 AT PROPERTY
LOCATED 1402 EAST 98th AVENUE.
I WILL TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
AND AFTER THAT I WILL PRESENT.
07:50:29PM >> GOOD EVENING, SAM THOMAS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF.
LOCATED IN THE UNIVERSITY DISTRICT AND NORTH TAMPA COMMUNITY
NEIGHBORHOOD.
CLOSEST TRANSIT POINT 19 MILES 14th STREET AND LINEBAUGH.
THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL DAVID E. WEST PARK 3/4 OF A MILE
EAST OF SITE AND WITHIN A LEVEL E EVACUATION.
I HAVE THAT UPSIDE DOWN.
GLAD YOU CAUGHT THAT.
I WAS WONDERING --
07:51:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT IS ALL GOOD BUT --
07:51:14PM >> DON'T EMBARRASS ME ANY MORE.
NOW THAT MY MAP IS FACING THE RIGHT WAY, LET'S MOVE ON.
OKAY.
SO HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE PREDOMINANT IS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND SMALL
MULTIFAMILY, QUADRIPLEXES AND DUPLEXES.
THEY FROM THE AERIAL IT ALL LOOKS LIKE SINGLE-FAMILY, BUT IT
IS MORE OF THE TWO SMALL-DUPLEXES AND QUADRIPLEXES.
MOVE ON TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE.
WITHIN THE FUTURE, SUPPORTS LOWER TO MEDIUM DENSITY.
THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY THE R-20 FUTURE LAND USE.
YOU GO TO THE EAST, YOU HAVE A SLIVER IN THE LOWER R-10
RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION AND OVERALL NO FUTURE LAND
USES OTHER THAN THE R-20 CLOSE TO THIS OTHER THAN THE R-10.
THIS PORTION OF EAST 978th BETWEEN NORTH BROOKS AVENUE AND
HACIENDA HAS AN AVERAGE OF 8.8 UNITS PER ACRE.
THE SUBJECT SITE HAS IT DEVELOPED 3.46 UNITS PER ACRE WELL
BELOW THE DENSITY WITH THE R-20 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION
DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF THE RM-18.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE
PROPOSED RM-18 IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN EAST 98th AVENUE.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
07:52:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
07:52:53PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
AGAIN.
THIS IS TO REFROM RS-
THE SUBJECT SITE IS.29 ACRES IN SIZE AND LOCATED NORTHEAST
OF THE INTERSECTION OF 98th AVENUE AND NORTH 14th STREET.
PROPERTY DIRECTLY NORTH, SOUTH, EAST-WEST OF THE SUBJECT
PART ZONED RS-50.
THOUGH THE IMMEDIATE AREA IS ZONED AND DEVELOPED PRIMARILY
WITH SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS, THEY ARE MORE INTENSE.
RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY ZONING IN THE GENERAL AREA.
MORE SPECIFICALLY, PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT
SITE THAT IS ZONED RM-18.
SHOW YOU AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
IN THE RED, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT.
SHOWN HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG EAST 98th AVENUE.
AND PROPERTY DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND FACING
EAST 99th STREET SOUTH DOWN NORTH 14th STREET.
SO HERE IS A AREA -- OR A STREET VIEW.
AND THIS IS PROPERTY DIRECTLY WEST OF THE SITE.
SO IT IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, BUT OBVIOUSLY
DEVELOPED WITH MULTIFAMILY USES.
THE -- IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 27-21, THE PROPOSED
REZONING OF RM-18 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE R-20 FUTURE LAND
USE AND A MAXIMUM OF FIVE DWELLING UNITS ON THE SUBJECT SITE
IF ALL OTHER LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ARE MET.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
07:54:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
07:55:17PM >> GOOD EVENING.
07:55:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GOOD EVENING.
07:55:19PM >> I AM JENNIFER FLEMISTER BARRIFFE.
AND I WANT TO REZONE MY PROPERTY MULTIFAMILY TO BUILD A
DUPLEX ON IT.
THAT'S IT.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
07:55:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:55:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WITH THIS DUPLEX, ARE YOU GOING TO LIVE
IN ONE AND RENT THE OTHER KIND OF THING OR YOUR OWN
SEPARATE.
07:55:41PM >> IT WILL BE FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSES.
CURRENTLY THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME THAT IS ON PROPERTY IS
SECTION 8.
I PLAN TO DO ADDITIONAL SECTION 8 PROPERTIES.
07:55:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.
07:55:52PM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
07:55:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA
ITEM?
FILE NUMBER REZ 22-50.
07:56:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
07:56:03PM >> SECOND.
07:56:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU MIND TAKE THIS.
07:56:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE, I LIKE CHANGING THINGS UP.
FILE NUMBER REZ 22-50, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
1402 EAST 98th AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO RM-18,
RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:56:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
07:56:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SAITH MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:56:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
07:56:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
07:56:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
07:56:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
07:56:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
07:56:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
07:56:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
07:56:56PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON OCTOBER 6, 2022 AT
9:30 A.M.
07:57:06PM >> THANK YOU.
07:57:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, REZ 22-06.
07:57:15PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
GOOD EVENING, ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 11, IS FILE NUMBER 22-06.
REQUEST REZONE PROPERTY 1515 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD FROM
OFFICE --OP-1, OFFICE PROFESSIONAL TO PD FOR RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY USES AND RESTAURANTS.
I WILL TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING
COMMISSION.
07:57:41PM >> SAM MOMS THAT WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
IN THE CARVER CITY LINCOLN GARDENS.
CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IN FRONT OF THE SITE ON WEST SHORE.
ALSO A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
CLOSEST RECREATIONAL LINCOLN PARK 1.A MILES NO THE TEES OF
THE SITE AND IN LEVEL A EVACUATION ZONE.
HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE SURROUNDING AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY LOW, MID AND HIGH-RISE
OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES.
TO THE EAST OF THE SITE YOU CAN SEE JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL
AND TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE IS INTERNATIONAL MALL.
TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE IS WEST SHORE MALL.
YOU CAN SEE SOME MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ALONG WEST SPRUCE
STREET THAT EXISTS NOW.
HERE IS A MAP OF THE FUTURE LAND USE.
UNDER THE RM-100.
THE DESIGNATION HAS THE HIGHEST INTENSITY AND DENSITY
OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
RMU-100 FROM WEST SHORE TO BOY SCOUT BOULEVARD.
TO THE WEST OF THE SITE, THE LIGHT GRAYISH COLOR IS M.A.P.
DESIGNATION.
MUNICIPAL FOR THE AIRPORT.
THE LIGHT BLUE COLOR IS PUBLIC, SEMI PUBLIC, TAMPA
INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AND LIGHT BLUE COLOR IS JEFFERSON HIGH
SCHOOL.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THAT LOW-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL-10 LAND USE
WHICH IS PART OF THE CARVER CITY, LINCOLN GARDEN
NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHILE IT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL KIND
OF SEPARATES THEM FROM EACH OTHER.
THE PROPOSED PD -- THE PD PROPOSES BELOW -- PLANNING
COMMISSION STAFF FIND THAT THE PROPOSED AUTO US AND
INTENSITY IS OF THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED IN
THE CITY.
THE PROPOSED REZONING SUPPORTS MANY POLICIES IN THE TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO
MAKE SURE ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF
TAMPA'S PRESENT AND FUTURE POPULATIONS.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN UNDER THE
RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE 100 LAND USE DESIGNATION AND
COMBATSABLE.
FURTHERMORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE AND PROMOTES WALKING,
TRANSIT AND HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.
THAT INCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
08:00:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
08:00:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS BARNES.
08:00:39PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, REZ 22-60, 1515 NORTH
WESTSHORE FROM OP-1, OFFICE PROFESSIONAL TO PD, RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY USES AND A RESTAURANT.
THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 2.99 ACRES IN SIZE AND LOCATED
NORTHEAST OF INTERSECTION OF WEST LAUREL STREET AND NORTH
WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
I WILL SHOW AN AERIAL LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID.
SHOWN HERE ON THE RED DOTTED LINES.
THE PD IS SEEKING TWO APPROVALS -- OR BUILDINGS -- EXCUSE
ME, SEEKING APPROVAL FOR TWO BUILDINGS IDENTIFIED ON THE
SITE PLAN AS TOWER ONE AND TOWER TWO.
TOWER ONE IS PROPOSED FOR 165 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY UNITS
WITH APPROXIMATELY 6,000-SQUARE-FOOT RESTAURANT
AND TOWER TWO IS PROPOSED FOR 195 UNITS.
PROPOSED MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 164 FEET.
14 STORIES.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SEVERAL WAIVERS REGARDING
TRANSPORTATION CODE REQUIREMENTS.
THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY -- BECAUSE IT IS 2.99 ACRES IN
SIZE, THE PROPOSED F.A.R. OF 3.49 IS CONSISTENT WITH
THE RMU-100 FUTURE LAND USE.
AND I JUST WANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT URBAN SIGN DID
FIND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH CHANGES.
AND I WAS INFORMED BY ONE OF THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE
VIA E-MAIL THAT ONE OF THE WAIVERS REGARDING TRANSPORTATION
LIVING SPACES.
IT WAS INDICATED ON THE SITE PLAN AS 12 X 57 FEET IN SIZE.
THEY ARE GOING TO MEET CODE.
12 X 60 FEET IN SIZE BEFORE BUT I WILL HAVE IS THE APPLICANT
CONFIRM ON THE RECORD AS WELL.
SO THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG WEST SHORE BOULEVARD.
AND THEN BEHIND FACING WEST FROM NORTH TRASK STREET.
HERE IS A PICTURE OF PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE.
AND A PICTURE OF SOME OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS DIRECTLY EAST OF THE SITE.
A SCHOOL.
AND THEN, AGAIN, ANOTHER ANGLE FROM WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
THE SUBJECT SITE HAS THE FENCING RIGHT THERE.
AND THIS IS PROPERTY SOUTHWEST OF THE SITE AND ALONG WEST
SHORE BOULEVARD.
OVERALL DEVELOPMENT REVIEW FOUND IT INCONSISTENT BASED ON
TRANSPORTATION AND COORDINATION FINDINGS.
MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE
APPLICANT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE
AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET IF APPROVING THE
APPLICATION.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
08:03:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU, MISS BARNES.
08:03:57PM >> I WAS WAITING TO BE RECOGNIZED.
SORRY.
08:04:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
08:04:11PM >> KAMI CORBETT.
WITH THE LAW FIRM OF HILL, WARD AND HENDERSON AND I HAVE THE
PLEASURE TO REPRESENT THE ALLIED CAPITAL GROUP WHO IS THE
OWNER-APPLICANT.
ALLIED CAPITAL LAID DOWN THEIR INVESTMENT IN WEST SHORE IN
2019 WHEN THEY BOUGHT WHAT WAS KNOWN AS THE AUSTIN CENTER.
ONE OF TAMPA'S ORIGINAL OFFICE PARKS.
SINCE THAT TIME, THEY HAVE FULFILLED THEIR PROMISE TO
MODERNIZE AND ACTIVATE THAT AREA AND IMPROVE CONSISTENT WITH
THE OVERLAY AND THE FIRST WATCH STAND-ALONE RESTAURANT, THE
FIRST OF ITS KIND IN THE WEST SHORE AREA AND BECOME A MORE
REVITALIZED AREA AND THIS IS THE NEXT STEP.
THE AAA -- THERE USED TO BE A AAA BUILDING ON THE SITE.
MOVED TO THE NORTH.
THE AUSTIN IS ONE BLOCK PARCEL OF HERE.
AND WE ANTICIPATE A LOT OF INTERPLAY AND PEOPLE LIVING IN
THESE UNITS THAT WILL BE WALKING IN THAT AREA.
THAT BRINGS US TO WHERE WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION WITH
YOUR STAFF ON THE STAFF REPORT.
WE DID, AS YOU HEARD, HAVE A FINDING OF CONSISTENCY AND
COMPATIBILITY WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND WE HAVE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
TRANSPORTATION.
WE ARE REMOVING THE LOADING BERTH.
JUST A MISTAKE IN THE PLAN LISTED AT 12 X 57 INSTEAD OF THE
CODE 12 X 60.
THAT LEADS US TO TWO TRANSPORTATION RELATED WAIVERS.
ASKING FOR A 13.7% REDUCTION AND WE ARE ASKING TO ACCESS BY
TRASK WHICH IS TECHNICALLY A LOCAL STREET.
THEY -- WE FEEL THAT THE ENTIRE TEAM IS OF THE OPINION THAT
THESE WAIVERS ARE JUSTIFIED BASED ON THE LOCATION AND BASED
ON THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING
NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I HAVE WITH ME RANDY HOE HEN, WHO IS BOTH
A TRANSPORTATION EXPERT AND EXPERT ON ALL THINGS WEST SHORE
ALLIANCE.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK HIM TO COME AND ADDRESS THOSE.
08:06:18PM >> GOOD EVENING.
RANDY COHEN, 4121 WEST CYPRESS STREET.
AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
TALK ABOUT TWO WAIVERS.
THE FIRST WAIVER IS A WAIVER FOR THE SECTION OF A DRIVEWAY
TO A LOCAL STREET.
THE CITY OF TAMPA DESIGNATED TRASK STREET AS A LOCAL STREET.
THERE ARE TEN COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAYS CURRENTLY.
THESE ARE THE ORANGE DOTS THAT ARE COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAY
CONNECTIONS TO A LOCAL STREET.
ALL OF THESE DRIVEWAYS OCCURRED BEFORE THE CODE CHANGED AND
REQUIRED THAT COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAY SHOULD NOT BE CONNECTED TO
A LOCAL STREET.
TRASK WILL VERY SHORTLY BE A COLLECTOR INSTEAD OF A LOCAL
STREET BECAUSE WILL HAVE A INTERCHANGE UNDER I-275 UNDER DOT
IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NOW FUNDED.
MOVING UNDER WAY AND, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY ARE ASKING
FOR PROPOSALS FROM CONTRACTORS FOR DESIGN-BUILD START THE
NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
SO MASSIVE CHANGES HERE.
EVEN MORE IRONIC, THIS ONE YELLOW DOT HERE WITH THE BLACK
DOT IN IT IS AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT SERVICED AAA'S SITE
FOR OVER 40 YEARS.
WE ARE SEEK -- SEEKING TO USE THAT DRIVEWAY THAT WAS
CONNECTED TO TRASK STREET FOR 30 YEARS.
THIS IS THE PURPOSE FOR THE WAIVER.
A CODE ISSUE.
WE HAVE LEVEL OF SERVICE A UP AND DOWN TRASK AT THE DRIVEWAY
SO I WON'T SPEND MORE TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT.
I THINK WE HAVE ADEQUATELY JUSTIFIED IT.
A PARKING WAIVER WE ARE REQUESTING.
13.4% AS KAMI TOLD YOU ALREADY.
LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MULTIFAMILY AND WHAT IS
HAPPENING WITH PARKING.
WE HAVE TO TALK OF IT IN TERMS OF PARKING RATIO BECAUSE THAT
IS HOW THE INDUSTRY DISCUSSES.
I REVIEWED NATIONAL PUBLICATIONS WHAT IS COMMON AND
CONSISTENT WITH PARKING AND PARKING RATIOS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
STARTING WITH REAL ESTATE JOURNAL, MID-RISE PARKING, RATIO
OF 1.31.
HIGH-RISE, 1.1.
WE ARE KIND OF IN BETWEEN DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DEFINE A
BUILDING, HIGH-RISE VERSUS MID-RISE.
LET'S CALL THIS PROJECT MID-RISE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
COMFORTABLE.
HOUSING WIRE, PUBLICATION.
OVERALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, 1.46 FOR MULTIFAMILY FOR
THE PARKING RATIO.
THE LOWEST PARKING RATIO SINCE 1960.
SHOWING HOW PARKING IS CHANGING BECAUSE VEHICLE OWNERSHIP IS
CHANGING.
WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING WHEN THEY LIVE IN MULTIFAMILY
PROJECTS.
DO THEY WOK PROXIMATE OR DRIVE TO WORK.
NEXT ONE IS THE NATIONAL APARTMENT ASSOCIATION, MID-RISE,
1.27.
HIGH-RISE 1.93.
NATIONAL APARTMENT BLOG, SUBURBAN, 1.25, URBAN, 1.1 FOR
PARKING RATIOS.
WHY AM I TALKING ABOUT THIS.
THESE ARE ALL NATIONAL THINGS.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE TREND AND WHAT IS GOING ON
WITH PARKING.
NOW LET'S SPEAK VERY SPECIFICALLY.
LAST YEAR ULTIS APARTMENTS WHICH IS ACROSS THE FEET
FROM MIS EN PLACE.
ASKED ME TO DO A PARKING STUDY AS PART OF THEIR REZONINGS.
WE DID THE STUDY.
SET UP THE METHODOLOGY WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA TRANSPORTATION
FOLKS.
WE DID 14 DAYS WORTH OF COUNTS.
283 HOURS OF PARKING COUNTS IN THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY.
THE CITY REVIEWED IT, APPROVED IT.
PARKING RATIO 1.39.
SIMILAR SIZE PROJECT.
SIMILAR SIZE MARKET AREA, ETC.
SO YOU COULDN'T ASK FOR A BETTER IDENTICAL PROJECT TO
ACTUALLY DO ACTUAL COUNTS ON.
WHAT ARE WE ASKING FOR HERE?
WELL, FIRST, UNDER CODE, THE PARKING RATIO FOR THIS PROJECT
WOULD BE 1.71.
ABOUT 30% HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE ACROSS THE NATION AND
WHAT YOU HAVE WITH THE ULTIS PROJECT WHICH IS LITERALLY
RIGHT ACROSS THE WAY FROM HERE AND IDENTICAL BUILDING OR
VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL.
WE ARE PROPOSING A 13.4% REDUCTION PARKING RAY SHY YO OF
1.44.
PRETTY CONSERVATIVE ON THE HIGH SIDE WHEN YOU LOOK AT
NATIONAL TRENDS.
PRETTY CONSERVATIVE WITH THE ULTIS, 1.39.
THE REDUCTION FOR ULTIS IS 30% HIGHER THAN THE REDUCTION
BEING ASKED FOR IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO ASK OF LOCAL
STREETS OR COMMERCIAL DRIVE ACCESS OR PARKING IN THIS
PARTICULAR CASE IN THE WAIVER.
08:11:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU.
08:11:07PM >> KAMI CORBETT AGAIN.
WE DO DON'T HAVE ANY MORE PRESENTATION.
OUR ENTIRE TEAM.
ALLIED CAPITAL AND KIMLEY-HORN WHICH IS OUR CIVIL ENGINEER
AND MR. COHEN AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
08:11:27PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I WANT TO ADD IF APPROVING THE APPLICATION WITH THE REVISION
SHEET, JUST FOR THE RECORD PLEASE STATE THAT ONE WAIVER
REGARDING THE LOADING SPACE WILL BE STRUCK.
08:11:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE SPEAK TO THIS.
AGENDA ITEM REZ 22-60.
08:11:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
08:11:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.
08:11:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
08:12:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
REZ 22-06, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
1515 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION ONE FROM
ZONING DISTRICT O P-1, OFFICE PROFESSIONAL TO PD,
RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY AND RESTAURANTS USINGS PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
08:12:31PM >> SECOND.
08:12:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WITH THE REVISION.
08:12:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AND CHANGE THE LOADING BERTH FROM 12 X 57
TO 12 EXAMINE 060.
08:12:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
ROLL CALL VOTE.
08:12:53PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
08:12:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
08:12:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
08:12:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
08:12:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
08:13:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
08:13:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
08:13:04PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SEPTEMBER 26, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
08:13:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA EYE NUMBER 12, REZ 22-66.
08:13:16PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
REZ 22-66, REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY 326
SOUTH PLANT TO RO-1 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO PD, MULTIFAMILY.
I WILL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
08:13:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
08:13:45PM >>SAM THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THIS IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
HYDE PARK URBAN VILLAGE, HYDE PARK LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT
AND SPANISH TOWN CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS 50 FEET SOUTH OF THE SITE.
CLOSEST A MEMORIAL PARK LOCATED 1,000 FEET TO THE NORTH OF
THE SITE AND WITHIN A LEVEL B EVACUATION ZONE.
HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
SURROUND AREA IS A MIX OF OFFICE, COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY
USES.
TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE -- YOU KIND OF GET A GLIMPSE OF
DAVIS ISLAND AND TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL.
A LARGE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT HERE.
THE COMMERCIAL IS MAINLY CLUSTERED ALONG WEST PLATT STREET.
YOU HAVE MULTIFAMILY OVER HERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SOUTH
HYDE PARK.
LARGE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT HERE.
ALONG WEST BEACH PLACE WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THREE SINGLE
FAMILY HOMES HERE, TWO OF THOSE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN CONVERTED
INTO A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS BEING PROPOSED RIGHT
NOW.
SO THERE IS ONLY I BELIEVE ONE MULTI-- ONE SINGLE-FAMILY IN
THE GENERAL AREA OF THIS PROJECT.
HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
APPEAR QUITE A COLLECTION.
YOU SEE THE SITE, SMALL RIGHTS THERE.
UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 50 LAND USE THAT IS FOR MEDIUM TO HIGH
DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE DARK REDDISH COLOR KIND OF SURROUNDS THE
AREA AND MAKES UP THE PREDOMINANT LAND USE AROUND IT.
TO THE SOUTH OF IT, AN EVEN HIGHER LAND USE CATEGORY,
THE R-83.
THIS LIGHT PINK COLOR CM I -65.
AND THE RMU-100.
AND YOU SEE THE OPEN SPACE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
IT HAS A EXISTING DENSITY OF 47.5 UNITS PER ACHE PER.
THE REQUEST IS FIVE MULTIDWELLING UNITS AT DENSITY OF 35.7
UNITS PER ACRE BELOW THE DENSITY UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 50
LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES MULTIFAMILY FOR
ORIENTATION TO THE FRONT DOOR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIDEWALK.
THE PROJECT HAS A FRONT DOOR FACING THE AVENUE AN COLLECTING
MRALT TO IT.
AND ADDITIONALLY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE PROPOSED
ADAPT I HAVE IT REUSE OF THE CONTRIBUTING HISTORIC
STRUCTURE.
ADAPT I HAVE IT REUSE IS SENSITIVE AND RESPECTABLE.
THE REQUEST IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE TO THIS PORTION OF
SPANISH TOWN CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONSISTENT WITH THE LONG
HIN RANGE OF THE RESIDENTIAL 50 LAND USE.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS.
08:16:35PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
REZ 22-66 TO REZONE FROM RO-1 TO PD FOR MULTIFAMILY USES.
THE DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSING FIVE DWELLING UNITS.
CURRENTLY IT WAS USED OR CURRENTLY IS USED AS AN OFFICE.
THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY.14 ACRES IN SIZE.
AND COMPRISED OF LOT 11 OF BEACH PLACE REVISED MAP PLAIDED
IN 1982.
ALTHOUGH OFFICE USES IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, THERE ARE
RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY USES AS WELL WHICH I WILL SHOW IN
THE PICTURES.
THIS PROPOSED PROJECT IS AN ADAPTIVE REUSE OF A HISTORIC
STRUCTURE THAT IS CONTRIBUTING IN BOTH LOCAL AND NATIONAL
HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
SO SETBACKS ARE BECAUSE THEY ARE EXISTING THEY WILL
BE THE SAME AS WHAT IS THERE NOW.
THE ARC DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED
WITH THIS REQUEST.
AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE R-50.
OVERALL DEVELOPMENT REVIEW FOUND IT INCONSISTENT BASED ON
TRANSPORTATION-RELATED WAIVERS.
HOWEVER, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION DID FIND THE REQUEST
CONSISTENT.
SO LET ME SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES.
SAM ALREADY SHOWED YOU AN AERIAL MAP, BUT TO SHOW YOU AGAIN,
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS A VIEW OF THE SITE ALONG PLANT.
AND THEN FURTHER SOUTH YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE THERE AS
WELL.
AND THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
THIS IS, I BELIEVE, EAST -- OR SOUTH.
SORRY.
THIS IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
AND THIS IS NORTH LOOKING TOWARD DOWNTOWN.
SO I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
08:18:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS BARNES?
08:19:07PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
KEVIN REALI WITH STEARNS, WEAVER, MILLER LAW FIRM.
HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
I AM GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO THE REQUEST HERE.
AND AS STAFF STATED, THIS IS AN ADAPTIVE REUSE.
THIS IS AN UNIQUE SCENARIO WHERE IF THE BUILDING WAS TO
BE RAZED.
WE ARE NOT SUGGESTING THAT.
THIS IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
THE ONLY REASON THIS CAN'T BE DONE BY RIGHT UNDER THE CODE
BECAUSE WE CAN'T SHIFT THE ACCESS TO PLANT WITHOUT
DESTROYING THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
YOU LOOK AT THE STAFF REPORT, ONE THING THAT JUMPS OUT THE
MOST A BUNCH OF WAIVERS ARE REQUIRED.
ALL OF THESE WAIVERS TO TRY TO SAVE THIS HISTORIC STRUCTURE
AND DEVELOP THE SITE SO IT CAN WORK WITH THAT.
SO THE CHALLENGE HERE -- THE REZONE FROM RO-1 TO PD.
REZONING IS BASICALLY A CHANGE OF USE APPROVAL ON STEROIDS,
BECAUSE OF COMBINING THE DETAILS OF THE CODE WITH THE DESIRE
TO MAINTAIN THIS STRUCTURE.
SO, AGAIN, THE CURRENT USE IS OFFICE.
THE PROPOSED USE IS MULTIFAMILY.
LOCATED IN A MIXED USE AREA.
WOULD BE PREVENTED BY RIGHT WITHOUT REDEVELOPMENT, BUT
WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO ADJUST WE ARE HERE FOR THE ADAPTIVE
REUSE.
IMPROVING THE PARKING, SCREENING THE SOLID WASTE AND ADDING
AN ENTRY WHICH THE ARC APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY WHEN WE WENT
BEFORE THEM.
STAFF TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SURROUNDING AREA.
I DID A LITTLE VISUAL HERE.
IT IS ACTUALLY EVEN MORE LIMITING THAN WHAT THE USE IT ON
THE PROPERTY APPRAISER WEB SITE SHOWS.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE STRUCTURES, IT WILL
LIST IT AS SINGLE-FAMILY.
WHEN YOU GO TO IT, MULTIPLE MAILBOXES AND NUMBERS ON THE
FRONT PORCH.
THIS IS UBIQITUS IN THE AREA.
ALL COMMERCIAL.
ALMOST ALL OFFICE AND YOU SEE THE BLUE USES OF DIFFERENT
SHADES.
AND SO THE SUBJECT SITE HERE OUTLINED IN GREEN THAT SHOWS UP
WELL ON MY PAPER AND NOT ON YOUR ELMO.
I SHOWED IT IN BLUE AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IF YOUR REQUEST
IS APPROVED.
THE DARKER BLUE LARGE MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
ALL OF THE SITES THAT ARE THE SAME COLOR ARE HISTORIC
STRUCTURE THAT ARE USED FOR MULTIFAMILY LESS THAN TEN UNITS
AND ONE DUPLEX IN HERE.
THE STAFF SHOWED YOU PICTURES FOCUSING ON PLANT, BUT I WANT
TO SHOW YOU PICTURES FOCUSING TO THE EAST OF PLANT AND THE
NEIGHBORING -- NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
SO -- SEE IF I CAN -- MAKE THIS A LITTLE BETTER.
SO IF YOU LOOK SOUTH OF THE SITE ACROSS BEACH PLACE, YOU
HAVE -- YOU HAVE FIVE STRUCTURE THAT ARE SHOWN HERE.
TWO OF THEM ARE OFFICE, ONE SINGLE-FAMILY, ONE MULTIFAMILY.
THEY LOOK SIMILAR.
YOU TALK ABOUT COMPATIBILITY, THE USES ARE COMPATIBLE AND
THE STRUCTURES THEMSELVES ARE COMPATIBLE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE OFFICE.
THIS ONE BEHIND THE TREE IS THE OFFICE.
THIS ONE IS THE ONE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED AND THE EXACT
SAME USE WE ARE PROPOSING HERE WHICH IS A HISTORIC STRUCTURE
USED FOR MULTIFAMILY.
THE SAME IS TRUE EXTENDING THE AREA.
THE ACTUAL BLOCK THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ON.
HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
IT IS THE ONE IN MOST NEED OF REPAIR ON THE BLOCK.
SO THIS REQUEST WOULD ALLOW THAT PROPERTY TO BE REINVESTED
IN AND IMPROVED.
AND YOU CAN SEE ONE, TWO, THREE STRUCTURE THAT ARE HISTORIC
STRUCTURES, MULTIPLE FAMILY, LESS THAN TEN UNITS.
AND LARGER MULTIFAMILY TO THE EAST.
THE BLOCK TO THE NORTH-SOUTH HYDE PARK PLACE.
YOU HAVE A DUPLEX.
EXACT SAME USES FOR THREE OF THE STRUCTURES AND THEN LARGER
MULTIFAMILY.
ON PLANT, YOU HAVE OFFICE USES WHICH VARY FROM MORE MODERN
BUILDINGS TO REPURPOSED HISTORIC STRUCTURES FOR OFFICE USES.
SO THE REQUEST ITSELF IS FOR SITE PLAN CHANGES AS I SAID TO
IMPROVE THE PARKING, SOLID WASTE, SCREENING AND THE ENTRY.
THEY ARE ALL FOCUSSED ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
WHAT WE DID HAVE THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS PARKING.
WE HAD OUR ENGINEER MEET WITH YOUR STAFF AND COME UP -- COME
TOGETHER WITH THE BEST WE CAN DO WITH WHAT IS THERE.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE MET WITH THE REST OF THE STAFF,
HISTORIC PRESERVATION, NATURAL RESOURCES AND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO HAVE THOSE WAIVERS.
SITE PLAN HAS UNDERGONE SIGNIFICANT TO HANDLE THAT.
THE TEEN ROWWAY ON THE BACK.
TOTALLY UNIMPROVED PARKING AREA AND WE ARE ASKING TO CHANGE
THOSE THINGS.
TO IMPROVE THE PARKING, WHAT IS REQUIRED UNDER THE CODE IS
11 PARKING SPACES.
WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING WILL REQUIRE NINE PARKING SPACES AND
DEMAND WILL BE REDUCE.
ADDITIONALLY, A PAVED ADA SPACE.
THE BACK-OUT WHICH IS A WAIVER TO PROTECT THIS MASSIVE GRAND
TREE THAT IS ACROSS THE ALLEYWAY.
AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION ASKED FOR SCREENING WITH
VEGETATION AND IMPERVIOUS PAVERS TO MAKE IT MORE COMPATIBLE
WITH THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE AREA.
ONE OF OTHER CHANGES FOR SOLID WASTE.
THIS IS JUST SCREENING.
I ONLY NOTE IT BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS ON THE SITE PLAN.
THE ENCLOSURE WILL BE UNDERNEATH THE WALKWAY.
AND LET ME ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT HERE.
THE ACCESS WILL CHANGE.
IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE ONE SIDE BEFORE, WE HAD THE ACCESS
GOING STRAIGHT -- STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BUILDING AS IT EXISTS
TODAY.
WHAT YOU SEE ON THE TOP IS THE PRIOR PLAN WHERE WE HAD
THE ADA GOING TO THE FRONT TO ACCESS ONE OF THE FRONT UNITS.
HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF SAYS WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE
THAT.
HE WANT YOU TO CONSOLIDATE THAT AND ADJUST THE THAT AND
MOVED THE ADA UNIT TO THE PACK.
MID-LEVEL LANDING AND YOU GET TO THE PROPERTY.
SO GOING TO THE WAIVERS.
THE WAIVERS ARE ALMOST ALL FOCUSED ON PARKING.
THE WAIVERS THEMSELVES ARE MITIGATED BY, ONE, THE CLOSE
PROXIMITY OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
THEY ARE CREATED BY THE -- SORRY, ADDING A BICYCLE RACK.
AND THE FACT THAT SOME COUNTY TO PRESERVE THE GRAND
TREE AND TO ESTABLISH HISTORIC PRESERVATION TO MAKE THE SITE
MORE VISIBLY COMPATIBLE.
THE WAIVER DISCUSSED FOR A 44% REDUCTION.
FOUR SPACES.
BECAUSE THESE UNITS ARE RELATIVELY BIG EVEN THOUGH A SINGLE
STRUCTURE.
THE WAY YOUR PARKING CODE IS A SUBURBAN RELATED PARKING
REQUIREMENT.
SO THOSE PARKING NUMBERS GO UP QUITE A BIT, BUT BECAUSE THIS
IS AN OLD BUILDING, IF WE WEREN'T BEFORE YOU ALL, WE COULD
GET THIS DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY.
THE CODE ALLOWS FOR REDUCTION OF 15% OR 15 SPACES, WHICHEVER
IS GREATER.
AND SO WE ARE PROVIDING FIVE PARKING SPACES TO THE NINE THAT
ARE REQUIRED, A FOUR-SPACE REDUCTION.
WE CAN DO THIS ADMINISTRATIVELY.
AGAIN, NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT ADAPTIVE USE THAT WE
CAN WORK THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVELY.
THE OTHER WAIVERS TO BUFFER IN GREEN SPACE.
THE WAIVER, NO CHANGES TO GREEN SPACE.
THE EXISTING OFFICE USE DOES NOT ARE HIGHER -- PROPOSING A
HIGHER GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.
NO CHANGE TO THE GREEN SPACE THAT IS THERE.
THE PUBLIC IS NOT LOSING ANYTHING WITH THAT.
THE LAST ONE IS THE BUFFER, TO THE NORTH.
WE PUT A FENCE -- A FENCE WITH CLIMBING VEGETATION.
I WOULD SUGGESTS THAT IS MORE COMPATIBLE BECAUSE A
TEN-FOOT BUFFER AND A MASONRY WALL IN THE AREA THAT MIXED
USES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE AND DENSE HOUSING.
DOESN'T HAVE THAT MUCH SENSE.
THESE USES ARE COMPATIBLE AND NO ISSUE.
BECAUSE OF AN ARC RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AND DISCUSSION
THAT THE WAIVERS IMPROVE WHAT IS THERE MOST IMPORTANTLY AND
CONSIDER THE LIFE OF A HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
NO CONCERNS OF THE CHANGES TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE
BECAUSE THIS USE WILL PHYSICALLY IMPROVE THE SITE FOR THE
FUTURE.
AS MISS BARNES STATED, ALL STAFF FOUND THIS CONSISTENT WITH
THE TRANSPORTATION, BUT WE DID WORK IMMENSELY WITH
TRANSPORTATION TO DO OUR BEST TO MAKE THAT PARKING FIT BUT
ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN DO ON THIS OLD SITE.
WITH THAT I REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
THANK YOU.
08:27:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
08:28:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHEN WILL THE STRUCTURE BUILT.
DO YOU KNOW THE YEAR?
08:28:05PM >> I BELIEVE IT WAS 1905.
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT YEAR, BUT WITHIN FIVE YEARS OF THAT.
08:28:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LIKELY THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE ON THAT
PROPERTY WAS PROBABLY VACANT BEFORE THAT CONSIDERING THE AGE
OF HIDE D HYDE PARK AND THE VICINITY.
08:28:20PM >> YES.
08:28:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT I LIKE IS YOU ARE PRESERVING THE
STRUCTURE.
SO MANY STRUCTURES SURROUNDING.
YOU HAVE SHOWN WHAT HAS BEEN PRESERVED OVER THE YEARS, BUT
SO MANY OTHERS STRUCTURES, FOR EXAMPLE -- THE FORMER HOME OF
FORMER CITY COUNCILMEMBER PETER O. KNIGHT WAS THERE.
I THINK IT IS AN APARTMENT OR CONDO NOW, WHATEVER.
BUT IT WAS ON THAT STREET.
THE FACT THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WENT THROUGH A TIME IN THE
'70s AND '80s NOT THE HYDE PARK WE KNOW TODAY AND THE
EXPRESSWAY CAME THROUGH AND ALL THAT AND DIVIDED THAT AREA
BUT THIS IS A VERY CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
YOU ARE PRESERVING IT.
ADAPT CITY OF REUSE AS YOU MENTIONED.
WAIVERS AND THE PARKING ARE MINIMAL.
JACKSON HOUSE.
ADA.
YOU ARE NOT EFFECTING THE INTEGRITY OF STRUCTURE EXCEPT FOR
THE ADA.
YOU ARE MAKING IT LOOK BETTER BY IMPROVING THE PARKING LO
THE AGAIN.
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE GRAND TREE ON THE PROPERTY THE
ONE THAT WAS BEHIND -- ARE YOU PRESERVING THAT?
08:29:39PM >> YES, SIR, THAT IS NOT ON OUR PROPERTY.
THERE IS AN ALLEY RIGHT HERE.
SO WHAT NATURAL RESOURCES --
08:29:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BUT THE TREE IS STAYING?
08:29:53PM >> THE TREE IS STAYING AND USING GRAVEL FOR THE BACK-UP
AISLE SO NOT INTERFERE WITH THE ROOTS OF THE TREE.
08:30:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS IS GREAT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO TEAR ANYTHING DOWN.
THESE HOUSES ARE BIG.
YOU CAN USE THEM FOR MULTIOFFICE SPACES AND RESIDENTIAL
UNITS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOCK IT DOWN BECAUSE IT IS OLD.
AND A GREAT EXAMPLE OF ADAPTIVE REUSE AND PRESERVING THE
HISTORIC NATURE AND INTEGRITIES OF THE NATURE.
I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
08:30:21PM >> HAPPY TO BE BEFORE YOU WITHOUT OPPOSITION.
WE DIDN'T HAVE OPPOSITION AT THE ARC HEARING DISCUSSING
MAINTAINING A STRUCTURE IN HYDE PARK.
THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL IN COMING BEFORE YOU WITH SO MANY
WAIVERS.
IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE APPLICATION IT DOESN'T PAINT A WHOLE
PICTURE.
IF YOU THINK WHAT WE SPEAK ABOUT IS REDUNDANT, BECAUSE THERE
IS MORE IN THE APPLICATION THAN WHAT IS IN BLACK AND WHITE.
08:30:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
FILE NUMBER REZ 22-66 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
08:31:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FILE NUMBER REZ 22-66, IN 326 SOUTH PLANT
AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN ZONING DISTRICT CLASS AT THIS OCCASION RO-1
TO PD, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THIS REVISION SHEET THAT IS SHOWN IS COMPATIBLE.
THE -- THE COMPATIBILITY WITH OBJECTIVE CODES AND POLICIES
OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SEE THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT PUMP.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH HOUSING 1.3 .4,
LAND USE 1.11.
AND 1.127.
WHICH ENCOURAGES HOUSING VACANT LAND AND TO MEET THE NEEDS
OF TAMPA'S PRESENT AND FUTURE POPULATION.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ADAPTIVE REUSE OF AN EXISTING
CONTRIBUTION -- I AM SO TIRED I AM SPEAKING GREEK -- AND
HISTORIC STRUCTURE THAT IS SENSITIVE AND RESPECTABLE TO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND COMPLIANCE OF LAND USE 1.2.10,
3.5.3, 16.1.2, 19.1.2.
AND 19.1.3.
I CAN GO FURTHER IF YOU WITH A WANT.
THE WAIVER IS UNIQUE AND REQUIRES THE NEED OF WAIVERS.
AND WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS WHOSE
PROPERTIES WILL BE EFFECTED.
08:32:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
08:33:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL.
08:33:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
08:33:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
08:33:07PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
08:33:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
08:33:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
08:33:15PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
08:33:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
08:33:18PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OCTOBER 6, 2022 AT 9:30.
08:33:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13, FILE NUMBER RE
Z-22-67.
MISS BARNES.
08:33:35PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES.
THE NEXT ITEM BEFORE YOU IS 22-67.
REQUEST IS REZONE 3002 ESPANOL LANE, 3015 WEST SANTIAGO
STREET, 3105 FWAI BAY OBSERVATION.
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND IN TERM
PARKING USES.
I WILL TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING
COMMISSION.
08:34:04PM >>SAM THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THIS IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT IN THE
BAYSHORE GARDENSES.
CLOSEST TRANSIT 1.2 MILES FROM SAYS BELLA AND BAY TO BAY
BOULEVARD.
AND THE RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS WITHIN A LEVEL B EVACUATION
ZONE.
HERE IS THE MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE SURROUNDING AREA PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL IN CHARACTER
WITH MULTIFAMILY AND ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL WITH SCATTERED
DETACHED RESIDENTIAL.
OFFICE AND LIGHT COMMERCIAL USES ARE LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF
SUBJECT SITE MAINLY CENTERED ALONG WEST BAY TO BAY
BOULEVARD.
HERE IS A MAP OF THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE.
LIKE OUR PREVIOUS CASE, THIS IS ALSO WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL
50 LAND USE DESIGNATION WHICH INTENDS FOR HIGH AND MEDIUM
DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES.
TO THE SOUTH OF IT IS MORE OF THE RESIDENTIAL 50, AND THE
LIKE PINKISH, PURPLE COLOR IS THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
DESIGNATION.
THE DARKER COLOR THAT YOU SEE AROUND HERE, DARKER BROWNISH
IS THE RESIDENTIAL 83 CATEGORY.
AND TO THE WEST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SELMON IS THE
COMMUNITY 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
YOU CAN SEE THE RECREATIONAL FOR FRED BALL PARK THAT I
MENTIONED AND TO THE SOUTH WHERE THE BLUE IS PUBLIC, SEMI
PUBLIC WHICH THE ACADEMY OF HOLY NAMES.
A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN
2020 UNDER A PD FOR 180 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS.
THE PROPOSED PD HAVE ACREAGE AND 20 DWELLING UNITS TO A
TOTAL OF 200 DWELLING UNITS.
THE PD -- THE DENSITY -- THE DENSITY -- THE INTENSITY OF THE
SITES IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF
RESIDENTIAL 50.
THE PROPOSED PD ONE 27-STORY TOWER AND ONE 30-STORY TOWER.
AND HOMES ALONG SANTIAGO STREET WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SIDEWALKS ON ALL JAY COLLINS SENT RIGHT-OF-WAYS AND SUBJECT
SITE.
OF THE RESIDENTIAL 50 LAND USE.
COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35 AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35.
R-50 AND R-83 AND IN THE PROMINENT LAND USE ALONG BAYSHORE.
PROPOSED 200 DWELLING UNITS OF 36 DWELLING UNITS PER ACHOR
IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LONG-TERM DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE R-50
LAND USE DESIGNATION AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS
FOR TAMPA'S GROWING POPULATION.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS.
08:37:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU.
08:37:04PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT TOWARD NATION.
REZ 22-6 FROM PD, FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY USES AND
INTERIM PARKING.
THERE ARE WAIVERS IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY
APPROVED, AS WELL AS SOME NEW WAIVERS.
THE -- AS SAM ALREADY SAID, THERE IS ADDITIONAL ACREAGE
BEING ADDED, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL UNITS THAT ARE BEING
ADDED FROM THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PD FOR THE RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY AND PARKING USES -- INTERIM PARKING USES.
I DO WANT TO MAKE A NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT THE -- IN
ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2721.
THE CONSISTENCY MATRIX, THE PROPOSAL OF 200 DWELLING UNITS
IS CONSISTENT WITH THE R-50 FUTURE LAND USE AND SOME
MODIFICATIONS TO THE WAIVERS.
SO I DO HAVE A REVISED WAIVER SHEET THAT I HAPPENED TO HAND
IN IF APPROVING THE APPLICATION.
ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO INCREASE THE
HEIGHT FRMS 328 FEET TO 349 FEET, SUBJECTS TO HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY AVIATION AUTHORITY SO I DID PRINT OUT ACTUALLY THE
AERIAL THAT WAS USED FOR THE REZONING FOR 2038.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE VERSUS NOW.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN -- SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT.
SO -- MAYBE I CAN GET BOTH ON HERE.
THIS IS WHAT IS THE PD BOUNDARIES UNDER 2038.
AND THESE ARE THE CURB RENT BOUNDARIES.
SO I WONDER IF I CAN -- SO YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A LITTLE --
THERE IS A PARCEL ADDED HERE TO THE NORTH.
CAN YOU SEE THAT?
OKAY.
HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE SUBJECT -- THE SUBJECT SITE FACING
EAST TOWARD BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
AND THEN THE -- ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON
ACTUALLY BAYSHORE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN THIS IS A PORTION OF THE SITE AND PROPERTY SOUTH OF
THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG SOUTH MacDILL AVENUE.
AND, AGAIN, STREET VERY CLOSE TO THE PARCEL, MASON STREET,
FACING EAST TOWARD BAYSHORE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE SOME SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED USES AS
WELL AS MULTIFAMILY.
OVERALL, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF FINDS THE
REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
PLEASE REFER TO NATURAL RESOURCES AND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION COMMENTS FOR OVERALL INCONSISTENCY AND
MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE
APPLICANT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE
AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET OF APPROVING THE
APPLICATION.
AND I WILL BE HANDLING THE REVISION SHEET.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS?
08:40:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU.
08:40:39PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS TYLER HUDSON.
400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
WITH ME HERE THIS EVENING ARE REPRESENTATIVES FROM RELATED.
THE PROJECT, MIKE HAMMOND.
NAJ RAHAJ AND SAM HORTON AND ALEX SCHALER FROM MY LAW FIRM.
A GROUP OF EXPERTS SOME ARE HERE WITH US OR VIRTUALLY.
KIMLEY-HORN.
FROM ARCHITECT, THE PROJECT DESIGNER PATRICK JANINI, HERE
VIRTUALLY AND RICKY PETERIKA, WHO IS THE PROJECT ARBORIST IS
AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY.
ANNIE DID A GREAT JOB SETTING THE TABLE WHAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT.
THE PROJECT APPROVED IN 2020 FOR A TWO TOWER CONDO
DEVELOPMENT WITH TOWN HOMES ALONG SANTIAGO.
THE PROJECT IS BUFFETED ON THE WEST BY THE CROSSTOWN.
RIGHT UP AGAINST IT.
TO THE EAST ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND WHAT CUTS BETWEEN IT,
BETWEEN THE TWO PHASES I AM TALKING ABOUT IS SANTIAGO AND
YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT POKING UP TO THE NORTH IS BAY TO
BAY.
OPPOSITE THE ON RAMP TO THE EXPRESSWAY AT BAY-TO-BAY,
IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE YELLOW LINE WHERE SANTIAGO IS,
EVERYTHING BELOW WHICH IS STILL SHADED IN RED IS THE PORTION
THAT WE ARE PROPOSING NO CHANGES TO AT ALL.
PHASE ONE.
CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW, FOR PURPOSES OF THIS
PROJECT -- SORRY, THIS APPLICATION, NO CHANGES ARE BEING
PROPOSED.
THIS MIGHT SHOW A LITTLE EASIER WHAT ANNIE IS TRYING TO SHOW
ON THE ELMO.
THE AREA IN BLUE WAS THE AREA ACQUIRED SUBJECT TO THE 2020
NOVEMBER ZONING APPROVAL.
AND GETTING THAT LAND -- AND I WILL SHOW THIS IN A SECOND --
GAVE US THE ABILITY TO REDESIGN SOME OF THE FEATURES IN A
WAY THAT WILL MAKE SANTIAGO AN EVEN BETTER EAST-WEST BETWEEN
BAYSHORE.
BAY TO BAY IS A LITTLE CRAMPED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BAY TO
BAY BECAUSE OF OFFICE THAT ARE PROTRUDING INTO THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY.
MAKING SANTIAGO A WALKABLE STREET IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
AND WITHOUT THAT BLUE AREA, A BIT OF A THIN SITE.
HAVING THAT BLUE WAS QUITE HELPFUL.
AS THIS COUNCIL KNOWS VERY, VERY WELL, PDs ARE VERY SPECIFIC
DOCUMENTS.
A LOT OF DETAIL IN PDs.
AND OFTENTIMES, THINGS CHANGE WHEN WE COME BEFORE YOU AND
GIVE THESE PRESENTATIONS.
THE CODE ALLOWS SOME THINGS TO CHANGE WITH ADMINISTRATIVE
APPROVAL.
YOU CAN MAKE MINOR INCREASES IN HEIGHT AND THE UNIT COUNT.
WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT BY ADDING A COUPLE OF FEET TO THE
HEIGHT.
OTHER THINGS THAT ARE DEEMED SUBSTANTIAL.
A LIST OF 14 OF THEM ON THE SCREEN RIGHT HERE.
IF YOU MAKE ANY OF THESE CHANGES, WE COME RIGHT BACK HERE.
SO WHILE THIS PRESENTS AS A NEW REZONING, WE HAVE A NEW
REZONING NUMBER.
THIS IS REALLY -- I THINK IT IS HELPFUL TO THINK OF IT AS A
MODIFICATION OF A SITE THAT IS ALREADY ENTITLED.
WE THINK IT IS A RELATIVELY MINOR CHANGE AS THINGS GO, BUT
AS YOU CAN SEE THERE NUMBER TWO, AN INCREASE OF LAND AREA IS
VERY MUCH AN AUTOMATIC COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL.
THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
JUST TO SHOW IS THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL, I THINK THIS GOES TO
SHOW HOW THE PORTION OF THE SITE NORTH OF SANTIAGO, A THIN
DIAGONAL WAS PRETTY MUCH ON THE THIN SIDE.
180 UNITS SPLIT BETWEEN THE TWO TOWERS.
YOU CAN SEE -- YOU CAN SEE MY MOUSE.
THESE ARE THE TOWN HOMES HERE AND ALSO TOWN HOMES HERE AS
WELL.
AFTER THIS WAS APPROVED, WE DID PROCESS A NONSUBSTANTIAL AM
CHANGE OF TERMINATION REQUEST TO LIKE I SAID INCREASE BY
FIVE UNITS THAT WAS AFFECTED BY CONVERTING ONE OF THE
MEZZANINE LEVELS TO LIVABLE DWELLING UNITS AND MADE MINOR
MODIFICATIONS TO THE HEIGHT.
I AM JUST GOING TO TOGGLE BACK AND FORTH FOR A SECOND TO SEE
A LITTLE BIT OF THE DIFFERENCE.
PRETTY THIN THERE.
KIND OF LIKE A BACKWARDS NUMBER 7.
BY ACQUIRING THE PARCEL THAT IS NORTH OF ANTING A GO BUT
EAST OF WHERE WE ORIGINALLY WERE, ALLOW US TO ROTATE THE
SITE TO RUN IN A LINEAR SENSE PARALLEL TO SANTIAGO INSTEAD
OF POINTING TO THE CROSSTOWN OFF RAMP.
WHAT WE WILL DO IS ALLOW US TO BRING THE -- YOU CAN SEE HERE
THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC FOR THE SECOND TOWER.
IT WAS ON SANTIAGO.
NOW IT IS GOING TO BE OFF YSABELLA.
WE ARE ALSO GOING TO PUT THREE TOWN HOMES FRONTING SANTIAGO
ALONG WITH THREE -- MULTIFAMILY TOWN HOUSE STYLE.
NOT A LAND USE YOU SEE VERY OFTEN.
THESE THREE UNITS WILL BE FRONTING BAY TO BAY AND A NICE
DESIGN UPGRADE.
UNDER THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL IT WAS A PARKING GARAGE THAT WAS
FACING BAY TO BAY AND THESE TOWN HOMES ARE A MUCH BETTER
FEATURE.
WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE -- AND I WILL TALK A
LITTLE BIT NATURAL RESOURCES IN A SECOND A GRAND TREE THAT
IS LOCATED RIGHT ABOUT HERE.
IN TERMS OF STAFF AS ANNIE WALKED THROUGH, WE ARE
INCONSISTENT WITH NATURAL RESOURCES; HOWEVER, WE ARE
CONSISTENT ON THE COMP PLAN, WHICH LEGALLY SPEAK SOMETHING
PRETTY IMPORTANT.
WE WERE CONSISTENT WITH TRANSPORTATION TOO WHICH THIS
COUNCIL HAS ALWAYS -- IT IS NOT EASY TO GET.
WE ARE CONSISTENT I THINK BY CODE WITH MOST OF THE
PROVISIONS THAT ARE APPLICABLE BUT COUPLE OF AREAS THAT WE
RUN AFOUL OF THE STRICT INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE AND I
WANT TO WALK THROUGH THESE NOW.
THE WAIVERS WE ARE REQUESTING AND TO CONVERT NEW WAIVERS
THAT WAS NOT APPROVED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PRIOR REZONING.
THE FIRST IS BUFFERING.
THE MULTISTORY.
THE BUILDINGS THAT SEEM LIKE THEY ARE GOING TO FALL INTO THE
STREET BECAUSE INTO SIDEWALK.
THEY ARE RIGHT AT BAY TO BAY.
BECAUSE THESE ARE TECHNICALLY DIFFERENT USES WOULD REQUIRE
US ORDINARILY TO HAVE A 15-FOOT SEPARATION WITH A MASONRY
WALL.
WE WANT TO TAKE THAT DOWN TO 7 AND WILL MAKE A LITTLE MORE
SENSE WHEN WE TALK OF THE GRAND TREE.
WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE FULL 15-FOOT WAIVER HERE, IT
WOULD PUSH THE BUILDING BACK IN A WAY THAT WILL SEVERELY
INTERRUPT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO WITH SAINTING A GO
STREET.
THE SECOND WAIVER THAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS -- NOT -- THIS
MIGHT BE A FIRST FOR THIS COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE A MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNIT THAT IS, QUOTE, TOWN
HOUSE STYLE.
A SEPARATE USE UNDER YOUR CODE.
YOU HAVE TO INTEGRATE PARKING UNDER THE BUILDING OR INSIDE
THE TOWN HOME STYLE UNIT WHICH YOU CAN IMAGINE MIGHT NOT
WORK OUT WELL BECAUSE CARS TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE.
WE ARE PROVIDING THREE PARKING SPACE THAT ARE SURFACE
SPACES.
FOR FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THE THREE TOWN HOMES, THEY WILL HAVE
TO TAKE AN UMBRELLA, BUT NOT FEASIBLE TO INTEGRATE THOSE
THREE PARKING SPACES INTO THE STRUCTURES THEMSELVES.
TALK ABOUT NATURAL RESOURCES.
SO THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE WAIVERS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING AND
TALKED ABOUT THEM SEPARATELY.
THE FIRST INVOLVES RETENTION AND THE SECOND IS ABOUT THE
GRAND TREE.
ORDINARILY, A SITE WILL HAVE TO RETAIN 50% OF THE TREES
ON-SITE.
NOT ABLE TO DO THAT.
THE NUMBER OF TREES TO RETAIN ON-SITE REPRESENT 4%.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THE PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT
EXISTED ON THIS SITE PRIOR TO THIS -- THE NOVEMBER 2020
REZONING WAS A -- WAS A 12-BUILDING, TWO- TO THREE-STORY
GARDEN-STYLE APARTMENT PROJECT WITH ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF
SURFACE PARKING LOT BUILT IN 1974.
176 UNITS.
WE ARE AT 200.
PROVIDING MORE DENSITY BUT STACKING THAT DENSITY IN THE FORM
OF TWO TOWERS AND TOWN HOMES WHICH WILL AFFORD US A LOT MORE
OPPORTUNITY FOR CANOPY REPLACEMENT, CON KNOW BEE
REPLENISHMENT WITH THE PROCESS AND DEAL WITH PERMITTING
WHICH IS NOT NOW.
WHAT I HAVE ON SCREEN IS WHAT WE HAVE IN MIND FROM A
LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE PERSPECTIVE TO BRING BACK A LOT OF
THE CANOPY THAT IS THERE NOW, BUT WE THINK WITH MORE
VIBRANT, HEALTHIER TREE THAT ARE BETTER LOCATED.
A GRAND TREE RIGHT HERE ALONG SANTIAGO THAT WE ARE GOING TO
KEEP.
THAT IS GOING TO BE A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THE PLACEMENT
ON SANTIAGO WHICH IS CRITICAL TO THIS PROJECT.
THIS IS A GRAND TREE ON YELLOW THAT WE CAN NOT KEEP.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHY.
BETWEEN THE TWO GRAND TREES, THEY HAVE SIMILAR RATINGS.
RICKY PETERIKA CAN GO THROUGH ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF DETAIL.
TO MAKE IT FAIRLY SHORT, THE TREE DOWN HERE HAS A C-6
RATING, 40 INCHES WIDE.
GRAND TREE WE ARE SEEKING REMOVAL OF HAS A MARGINAL WORSE
RATING AT 33 INCHES.
THE REASON THIS TREE HAS TO GO OUT -- I WOULD NOTE IN OUR
ORIGINAL APPLICATION OF REZONING NOT 2020, BUT THIS
SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE REZONING, WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THE GRAND
TREE AS BEING REMOVED.
WE DID NOT WANT TO REMOVE THIS TREE.
WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE COURSE OF FILING AND RIGHT BEFORE --
RIGHT BEFOREDRC FOUND OUT THERE THERE ARE CERTAIN OSHA
REQUIREMENTS WHEN YOU DIG DEEP HOLES.
WHEN YOU BUILD TALL BUILDINGS YOU HAVE TO DIG DEEP HOLES FOR
THE FOOTER EXCAVATION.
OSHA, THE REGULATOR WITHIN THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF LABOR
REQUIRE WHEN YOU DIG DEEP HOLES, CERTAIN REGULATIONS THAT
AFFECT THE SIDE WALLS.
THE EXCAVATION HOLES DON'T COLLAPSE IN ON THEMSELVES AND
RULES ABOUT SLOPE.
BECAUSE OF THE SLOPING OF THE SIDE WALLS FOR THE VERY LARGE
HOLE THAT WE HAVE TO DIG TO SUPPORT THE VERY LARGE FOOTERS,
WE HAVE TO PUT IN THE GROUND FOR THE FAIRLY TALL BUILDING
THAT WILL GO ON TOP.
THAT TREE CANNOT BE SAVED BECAUSE AT LEAST 25% OF THE ROOT
BASE WILL BE DESTROYED.
SO SAVE THAT WILL BE AT THE EXPENSE OF MOVING THE BUILDING
SOUTHWARD WHICH WILL BE PROBLEMATIC FOR THE LARGER MORE
APPROPRIATELY PLACED -- OR MORE FORTUNATELY PLACE GRAND TREE
ON SANTIAGO.
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE IN MIND FOR SANTIAGO.
GOING EASTBOUND FROM BAY TO BAY TO SOUTH TAMPA TO BAYSHORE
ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BAY TO BAY, NO SIDEWALKS.
PEOPLE WITH BIKES AND STROLLERS WEAVING ON BAY TO BAY.
SANTIAGO A NICE THROUGH INTO EAST BAYSHORE.
UP ON THE BAYSHORE SIDEWALKND THE SAFER PEDESTRIAN CROSSING
AT BAY TO BAY.
THIS HAS BEEN A FOCAL POINT OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS TO DEVELOP
SANTIAGO INTO A NICE REALLY WALKABLE, INTENTIONALLY DONE
PLACE AND A LOT OF TREE REPLANTING THERE AND ONE GRAND TREE
WE ARE ABLE TO PRESERVE THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
BUT IN TRANSPARENCY AT THE LOSS OF ONE GRAND TREE THAT WE
HAVE EXPLORED EVERY AVENUE TO SAVE INCLUDING CHANGING HOW
THE ON IF PILINGS WORKED THERE.
AND NOTHING WORKED.
A CONCEPT DESIGN OF SOME OTHER CANOPY RESTORATION.
NOT AT GROUND LEVEL, BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE
DEVELOPER BASED ON -- THESE ARE CONDOMINIUM.
BASED ON HOW THEY SELL TO THE PUBLIC HOUR IMPORTANT VERDANT
GREEN SPACE AND CANOPY RESTORATION.
THESE WILL GO INTO THE LANDSCAPING PERMIT DRAWINGS.
IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT.
WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT
HAVE.

8:52:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
JUST FOR MITIGATION OF TREES, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MITIGATE
THE TREE LOSS?
HOW IS RITZ-CARLTON GOING TO HANDLE THAT?
8:52:50PM >> SURE.
I'M GOING TO ASK RICKY TO STEP IN IF I'M SAYING ANYTHING
WRONG, BUT TO START, I KNOW THAT WE'RE COMMITTED ON THE SITE
PLAN TO REPLACING WITH 68 TREES.
I BELIEVE THERE IS A TOTAL LOSS OF 51 TREES, SO WE ARE
REPLACING MORE THAN WE ARE TAKING OUT, AND THAT'S CANDIDLY
NOT OUT OF SOME MEASURE OF GENEROSITY.
THAT'S WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES, WE ADD UP THE VUA, VEHICULAR
USE AREA, AKA PARKING LOT TREES, PLUS THE OTHER TREES BASED
ON THE CREDIT/DEBIT SYSTEM THAT WERE IN RICKY'S
PRESENTATION, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT -- THIS IS A
RITZ-CARLTON BRANDED CONDOMINIUM.
GREENSPACE IS SOMETHING THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN ALL
OF THEIR PRODUCTS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
AGAIN, THIS ISN'T A RENTAL PRODUCT.
WE ARE SELLING -- MIKE AND HIS TEAM ARE SELLING UNITS BASED
ON DEPICTIONS AND RENDERINGS OF GREENSPACE THAT WE'RE
ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED TO.
IF IT'S NOT THERE, WE'LL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE FOLKS WE'RE
SELLING THE UNITS TO.
8:53:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. PETERIKA, HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
8:53:57PM >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO
GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
8:54:02PM >> YES.
8:54:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. PETERIKA, DID YOU HEAR MY QUESTION?
HOW IS THE RITZ-CARLTON GOING TO MITIGATE THE TREES THAT
WILL BE TAKEN OUT?
8:54:13PM >> BACK UP A MOMENT, COUNCILMAN.
MITIGATION CALCULATIONS CAME OUT TO BE 35 TYPE ONE TREES,
OAK-SIZE TREES, AND 30 PALM TREES.
MY ROLE ON THIS PROJECT IS CURRENTLY PROJECT ARBORIST ONLY.
I'M NOT FUNCTIONING -- TO SPEAK TO THAT.
ON THE PHASE ONE PROJECT WHERE I WAS ASSISTING IN THE L.A.
DESIGN, THERE WERE LARGER TREES PROPOSED TO OFFSET THE
MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS, MAINLY FOR THE TYPE OF FIT AND
FINISH THAT THE RITZ-CARLTON WAS REQUESTING OF RELATED.
I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF WHAT THAT MITIGATION IS,
UNFORTUNATELY, BUT WHATEVER REMAINDER OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE
COVERED, IF ANY REMAINDER EXISTS ON THE MITIGATION
REQUIREMENTS.
THERE WILL BE MITIGATION.
8:55:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
I DIDN'T QUITE GET THAT, MR. PETERIKA, BUT I'M SURE THAT THE
RITZ-CARLTON WILL HOLD TRUE ON ITS PROMISE FOR GREENSPACE.

THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
AGENDA ITEM 13, REZ-22-67?
PLEASE COME FORWARD.
8:55:47PM >> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JILL CORCORAN.
I LIVE AT 2913 WEST SANTIAGO STREET.
I CAN'T HELP BUT NOTICE IN THE PICTURES SHOWN JUST A FEW
MINUTES AGO WITH THE STRUCTURE THAT THEY ARE BUILDING, WHICH
IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOME IN WHICH I'VE
LIVED FOR 19 YEARS, THEY DID NOT BOTHER TO SHOW THE PICTURE
OF MY HOME DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN
TRASHING MY YARD, WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN TRASHING MY CAR,
WHERE THEY HAVE DESTROYED PART OF THE OTHER END OF OUR
UNITS, AND THEY CONTINUE TO USE THAT STREET AS IF IT WERE
THEIR OWN PRIVATE DRIVEWAY AND HAVE MADE IT VERY DIFFICULT
FOR ME TO GET IN OR OUT OF MY HOME.
ASIDE FROM WHICH, YOU WERE JUST SPEAKING ABOUT THE TREES
THAT THEY WERE SELLING.
THE TREES THAT THEY USED IN THEIR ADVERTISEMENT ARE THE
TREES ON MY PROPERTY, ACTUALLY.
I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I'M VERY CLOSE TO THEM AND I KEEP VERY
GOOD CARE OF THEM.
I THINK THAT WITH THEM PURCHASING THIS SET OF TOWN HOUSES
THAT YOU'RE SEEING AT THE END OF THE BLOCK THERE, THESE ARE

DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOME AS WELL ON THE OTHER
END OF OUR DRIVEWAY, THAT THEY HAVE BEGUN TO PARK ALONG THE
STREETS, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO PARKING, MAKING IT ALMOST
IMPOSSIBLE TO GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY WITHOUT BEING
BLINDSIDED BY THE VEHICLES THAT THEY HAVE COMING AND GOING
AT ALL HOURS, AND THEY CONTINUE TO DO THEIR CONSTRUCTION
BETWEEN 4:30 IN THE MORNING AND 9:30 AT NIGHT.
8:57:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THEY CAN'T START AT 4:30 IN THE MORNING.
8:57:11PM >> THEY DO.
I KNOW THEY CAN'T.
I'VE CALLED THE CITY A NUMBER OF TIMES AND THEY IGNORE IT.
THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE AT 9:30 AT NIGHT EITHER.
I HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS AND VIDEO.
8:57:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
-- START AT 7 IN THE MORNING.
IF I RECALL THE ORDINANCE, I'M NOT SURE, MAYBE THE STAFF CAN
TELL, I THINK THE EARLIEST THEY CAN START IS 7 IN THE
MORNING MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
I THINK IT CHANGES --
8:57:34PM >> 8 A.M. SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
YES, SIR, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I LIVED THROUGH THE POORLY BUILT
HIGH-RISE BEHIND MY HOME AS WELL WHERE I RECEIVED A LOT OF
BUILDING SUPPLIES AND TOOLS AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS DROPPING
ONTO MY DRIVEWAY AND ONTO MY PROPERTY WHERE I CLEANED UP
AFTER THEM FOR FIVE YEARS WHILE THEY BUILT THAT ONE.

NOW I'VE STARTED CLEANING UP AFTER THE RITZ-CARLTON.
I'M CONCERNED THAT YOU'RE ADDING 20 UNITS AND THE PEOPLE
NEXT DOOR WHO DID KIND OF THE SAME THING SAID THAT THEY
WOULD HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH PARKING, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO
ARE PARKING UNDER THE NO PARKING SIGNS.
I CAN'T EVEN GET A POLICE OFFICER OUT THERE TO DO ANYTHING
ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE CITY HAS GONE DOWN TO ONE PERSON WHO
HANDLES PARKING.
SO I HAVE THE ONLY OPTION OF CREEPING OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY AND
HOPING THAT I DON'T GET HIT BY ONE OF THE TRUCKS.
THAT'S ALL I CAN DO, BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE.
THE STREET IS SO SMALL, NOT EVEN AS WIDE AS THIS ROOM.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU NOT GRANT THEM THE EXTRA 20 UNITS.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU MAKE THEM KEEP THE TREES.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ASK THEM TO JUST ABIDE BY THE RULES
THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW AND NOT START THEIR CONSTRUCTION AT
4:30 IN THE MORNING OR KEEP IT GOING UNTIL 9:30 AT NIGHT.
8:58:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
DON'T HAVE ANYONE ONLINE, MADAM CLERK?
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:59:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO WE HEARD THE SPEAKER BEFORE US AND
HER CONCERNS AND COINCIDENTALLY AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S
MEETING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A BIG STORMWATER PROJECT IN
SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.

I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT, MR. HUDSON.
IT'S BEEN IN THE NEWS AND WHATNOT.
AND THE HAVOC THAT IT HAS CAUSED TO THE RESIDENTS THERE AND
THE BUSINESSES, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, BUT THIS INDIVIDUAL,
SHE LIVES THERE FOR 19 YEARS.
SHE'S ALREADY HAD TO DEAL WITH THE PREVIOUS CONSTRUCTION,
TALKING ABOUT MATERIALS FALLING IN THE DRIVEWAY AND WHATNOT.
IS IT TRUE THAT THEY ARE STARTING BEFORE THEY ARE SUPPOSED
TO START, 7:00 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY CODE, ARE THEY
VIOLATING THESE RULES?
ARE THEY PARKING EVERYWHERE?
WHAT ABOUT IF SO MANY CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS AND OTHER
VEHICLES, AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE CAN'T GET THROUGH THERE.
THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT COULD HAPPEN.
SHE IS UNABLE TO GET OUT OF HER DRIVEWAY BECAUSE OF POOR OR
ZERO VISIBILITY.
IT'S AN ACCIDENT AND A LIABILITY ISSUE RIGHT THERE WAITING
TO HAPPEN.
WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME IN RESPONSE TO THIS?
9:00:26PM >> A COUPLE OF THINGS.
IN TERMS OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FACTS, I'M NOT SURE.
CONSTRUCTION IS DISRUPTIVE.
AS WE SAW IN THE FIRST ITEM YOU HAD, COMMUNICATION IS REALLY
KEY TO THAT.
I THINK RELATED PRIDES ITSELF ON BEING A VERY GOOD

NEIGHBOR.
YOU MAY RECALL THIS WAS A VERY CONTROVERSIAL REZONING BACK
IN NOVEMBER OF 2020.
SINCE THEN, MIKE AND THE RELATED TEAM HAVE DONE A LOT TO
WORK WITH PARTICULARLY THE TOWER, THE TWO TOWERS THAT THE
SITE IS BETWEEN.
WE'RE PROUD THAT THERE ISN'T A LOT OF OPPOSITION, BUT IT
SOUNDS LIKE WE COULD STILL DO MORE.
SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE MIKE ADDRESS SOME OF THE SPECIFIC
CONCERNS THAT JILL -- RAISED AND HOW THEY HANDLED COMPLAINTS
THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINTS
IN CANDOR.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DEAL WITH A LOT OF THEM
EFFECTIVELY.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
9:01:21PM >> GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS MIKE HAMMOND.
SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT WITH THE RELATED GROUP.
MY ADDRESS IS 2850 TIGER TAIL AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
I THINK ONE OF MENTIONED IT EARLIER ABOUT IT'S LOT OF
BABYSITTING AND IT IS AND WE KNOW THAT.
WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD WITH THE STOVALL AND WITH THE
AQUATICA CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATIONS.
WE HAVE DIRECT COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM.
IF THERE'S A PROBLEM, THEY HAVE NUMBERS THEY CAN CALL

IMMEDIATELY.
SO WE'VE ADDRESSED SOME ISSUES AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME
ISSUES.
I DON'T DENY THAT.
I THINK FOR THE MOST PART WE'VE ADDRESSED IT.
FIRST IT WAS NOISE.
THEN IT WAS LIGHT BECAUSE OF SAFETY ISSUES, THERE ARE LIGHTS
AND STUFF, AND WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT DIRECTED AT
THE EXISTING CONDOMINIUMS.
REGARDING THE SPEAKER BEFORE US, SHE LIVES ON SANTIAGO.
WE ACTUALLY ARE IMPROVING SANTIAGO, BUT IT'S IN THE PROCESS.
RIGHT NOW, THE ROAD IS ONE WAY OUT TO BAYSHORE FOR SAFETY
REASONS, AND WE PLAN TO REPAVE THE ROAD, BEAUTIFY THE ROAD.
WE'LL ADD A SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SANTIAGO, WHICH
DOESN'T EXIST TODAY.
AND TODAY, THOSE TOWNHOMES ACTUALLY DON'T ENTER SANTIAGO.
THEIR DRIVEWAY IS ON YSABELLA, AND THEY EXIT OFF YSABELLA.
AND WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING A LOT, ANY CONSTRUCTION ON
YSABELLA AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
SO SOMEONE IS PARKING THERE, THEY ARE PARKING THERE
ILLEGALLY.
WE STILL HAVE A CELL CENTER IN SANTIAGO.
WE HAVE VALET PARKING THERE.
NOBODY SHOULD BE PARKING THERE CREATING A HAZARD OR BLOCKING
VIEWS.

WE TRY TO BE THE BEST NEIGHBOR WE CAN.
OF THE TOWN HOUSES THERE, THEY ARE NOT AN ASSOCIATION.
SO THERE'S NOT LIKE A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT.
I'LL TAKE HER INFORMATION AND WE'LL WORK WITH HER AND MAKE
SURE THAT SHE HAS A POINT OF CONTACT ON OUR SIDE.
I KNOW PROBABLY THREE OF THE OTHER OWNERS IN THOSE
TOWNHOMES, AND WE ACTUALLY OWN ONE OF THOSE TOWNHOMES IN
THERE.
WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH HOW THEY ARE SET UP AND HOW THEY
OPERATE.
AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO
WORK TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN.
9:03:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
RELATED HAS A GREAT REPUTATION ON MANY PROJECTS ALL OVER THE
PLACE.
HOWEVER, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SPEAKER BEFORE US AND I
THINK THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE DIRECT CONTACT WITH YOU.
9:03:37PM >> DEFINITELY.
9:03:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MEAN, JUST LIKE WHEN PEOPLE CONTACT
US, WE CONTACT THE CONTRACTOR.
THEY LOOK TO US TO HELP THEM.
THEY ARE LIVING THERE AND DEALING WITH THIS 24/7, EVEN
THOUGH THERE'S NOT CONSTRUCTION AT MIDNIGHT, WHATEVER.
BUT IF IT'S STARTING AT 4:30 IN THE MORNING WHEN IT SHOULD

BE STARTING AT 7:00, EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR,
BUT THIS IS HER HOME.
YOUR HOME IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SAFE HAVEN.
YOU CAN'T GO FROM A LONG WORK DAY TO MISERY.
IT'S NOT FAIR.
9:04:06PM >> I AGREE 100% WITH YOU.
9:04:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I ASK YOU PLEASE SPEAK WITH HER, GIVE
HER DIRECT CONTACT.
9:04:15PM >> I WILL GIVE HER MY BUSINESS CARD.
SAM HORTON, OUR CONSTRUCTION MANNER WHO IS ON THE SITE EVERY
DAY WILL MAKE SURE SHE HAS HIS CONTACT.
AGAIN, SAM AND I ARE IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THE STOVALL
AND THE AQUATICA.
ISSUES DO COME UP.
WE TRY TO ADDRESS THEM, AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
THERE'S NO POINT IN NOT BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
9:04:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LASTLY, THE SIDEWALK.
DOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOW ABOUT THE SIDEWALK YOU SAID YOU
WOULD BE BUILDING ON SANTIAGO?
9:04:41PM >> IT'S PART OF THE APPROVED PLANS.
9:04:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:04:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:04:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I GUESS THE MOST CONCERNING OF IT ALL,
MIKE?
NOT SO FAST, MIKE.

[ LAUGHTER ]
I GUESS THE MOST CONCERNING, IF PEOPLE HAVE TO GO TO WORK
AND 4:30 IN THE MORNING IS A LITTLE BIT EARLY.
I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR OR SOMETIMES
THOSE CONCRETE TRUCKS DO COME KIND OF EARLY.
PROBABLY WHAT IT IS.
MAYBE YOU HAVE TO PULL THEM BACK.
9:05:23PM >> WE'VE BEEN VERY, VERY CLEAR WITH THE CONTRACTOR.
YOU CANNOT START BEFORE 7 A.M., VERY CLEAR.
9:05:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WELL, YOU SAID THIS, MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE
YOUR MAIN MAN KIND OF SPY AND MAKE SURE THERE AIN'T --
9:05:38PM >> WE DO.
WE'VE BEEN REALLY -- NO, WE'VE REALLY BEEN ON TOP OF IT.
AND I THINK, AGAIN, THERE WILL STILL BE SOME ISSUES.
WE KNOW THAT, BUT WE TRY TO ADDRESS IT.
AND AGAIN, I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY START AT 4:30, BUT MAYBE
SOMEBODY DID ONE DAY.
WHO KNOWS.
I DON'T KNOW.
I NEVER DID GET THAT COMPLAINT, BUT I DO KNOW ONE TIME THEY
DID START EARLY AND ONE TIME ENDED LATE BECAUSE OF A
CONCRETE POUR.
9:06:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I ALREADY KNOW WHAT IT IS.
9:06:08PM >> JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CLOSE, CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE
NEIGHBORING CONDOMINIUMS AND SOME OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORING

HOMEOWNERS.
VERY CLOSE CONTACT.
THEY KNOW WHO TO REACH OUT IF THERE IS A PROBLEM.
9:06:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:06:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK I SPEAK FOR ALL OF US WHEN I SAY OUR
RESIDENTS ARE FRUSTRATED BY THE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION
THAT'S GOING ON.
AS WE TRY TO IMPROVE THINGS WITH STORMWATER, AS DEVELOPMENTS
COME, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY IF WE APPROVE THIS ON FIRST
READING, I'M GOING TO WONDER IF SHE COMES BACK AND SAYS THAT
THINGS ARE BETTER BECAUSE WE SIMPLY CAN'T KEEP DOING THIS.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT'S GONE ON THAT NOW THE POLICING OF
SUBCONTRACTORS IS SO DIFFICULT, BUT YOU HAVE TO REIN IT IN.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO BRING THIS UP AT ANOTHER COUNCIL
MEETING AND TALK ABOUT PUNISHMENT, FINES, WHATEVER WE NEED
TO DO TO IMPROVE IT, BUT WE ABSOLUTELY -- 4:30 IN THE
MORNING, I WOULD BE APOCALYPTIC, TOO.
I'M SORRY, BUT I WOULD BE.
9:07:20PM >> I WOULD BE, TOO.
9:07:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M GOING TO EXPECT TO HEAR FROM JILL MIDTERM
TO FIND OUT IF ANYTHING IS IMPROVED.
AND I'M HAPPY TO GIVE YOU MY NUMBER, TOO, SO YOU CAN CALL ME
AT 4:30 IN THE MORNING JUST BECAUSE IF SHE'S HAVING THAT
PROBLEM, SHE CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE.
YOU AREN'T THE ONLY ONE HAVING THIS PROBLEM, BUT WE OWE IT

TO EVERYONE TO NIP IT IN THE BUD TO SAVE EVERYONE.
9:07:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. WELLS.
9:08:00PM >>CATE WELLS:
IF I MAY RESPOND, THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL
HEARING.
I UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE.
JC HUTCHINSON, OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL, DEALS WITH ISSUES
RELATED TO EARLY START TIMES ON CONSTRUCTION AND LATE.
THEY NOW HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT UNIT.
I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO JC AND LET HIM KNOW WHAT WE HEARD
TONIGHT.
I WOULD NOT ENCOURAGE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO CONTACT OUR
COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH REGARD TO THOSE ISSUES GIVEN THAT THIS
IS STILL PENDING BEFORE COUNCIL.
AND I WOULDN'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY POTENTIAL COMMUNICATIONS
THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD CONSIDER TO BE PREJUDICIAL.
I'D LIKE TO HANDLE IT THROUGH CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, IF YOU
DON'T MIND.
9:08:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
POINT TAKEN.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SHARING HIS NUMBER WITH HER, THOUGH,
THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
9:08:50PM >> I ALREADY HAVE THAT.
MENTION MY NAME.
HE'LL KNOW ME.
9:08:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN

MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR?
THANK YOU.
WHO AM I GOING TO NOW?
I BELIEVE I'M GOING TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:09:08PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M GOING TO PASS, PLEASE.
9:09:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
9:09:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL TAKE IT.
I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
VICINITY OF 3002 ESPANOL LANE, 3015 WEST SANTIAGO STREET,
3105 BAY OAKS COURT AND 3015 SOUTH YSABELLA AVENUE IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD (PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT) AND RM-35 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY) TO PD
(PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY AND INTERIM
PARKING); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND INCLUDING THE
WAIVERS AS LISTED IN REGARDS TO THE TREES.
THE REQUIRED 15-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER REGARDING PART THREE,
SECTION 27-284.2.5 F-1.
THAT IS A REQUEST TO REMOVE ONE NON-HAZARD GRAND LIVE OAK.
AND SECTION 27-289.10 C-2, REQUEST TO ALLOW PARKING OUTSIDE
OF EACH RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TOWN HOUSE STYLE BUILDING.
9:10:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN

MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
9:10:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
9:10:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
9:10:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
9:10:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
9:10:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
9:10:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
9:10:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
9:10:43PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 6th,
2022, AT 9:30 A.M.
9:10:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
WE'LL OPEN UP AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 15 AND 3.
15 NEEDS TO BE HEARD BEFORE 3.
9:11:07PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS REZ 22-97.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE PROPERTY AT 4004 HENDERSON
BOULEVARD FROM CG (COMMERCIAL GENERAL) TO PD FOR RESTAURANT
AND ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES.
I'LL TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
9:11:38PM >> ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE ELMO YET?
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO BEGIN WITHOUT IT?
9:11:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SURELY.

I THINK IT SHOULD COME UP.
JUST ABOUT THE TIME YOU'RE FINISHED.
GO AHEAD.
9:11:57PM >> SAM THOMAS WITH PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THIS IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT IN THE
PALMA CEIA WEST NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS 0.3 MILES AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT
SITE AT SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY AND WEST NEPTUNE STREET.
THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS CAL DICKSON TENNIS
COMPLEX, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 0.2 MILES TO THE NORTHWEST.
THE SITE IS WITHIN A LEVEL C EVACUATION ZONE.
HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE SURROUNDING AREA ON HENDERSON BOULEVARD
IS MAINLY ON COMMERCIAL USES.
ONCE YOU GO NORTH AND SOUTH OF HENDERSON BOULEVARD YOU
TRANSITION TO PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE CMU 35 FUTURE LAND
USE DESIGNATION.
TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE IN THE ORANGISH COLOR IS THE
RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE IN THE LIGHT YELLOW IS THE
EVEN LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL 6 FUTURE LAND USE
DESIGNATION.

I DID FORGET TO MENTION THAT THERE IS -- THE LIGHT ORANGE --
OR THE ORANGE AND LIGHT YELLOW IS PREDOMINANTLY
SINGLE-FAMILY.
THERE IS I THINK A FEW OR MAYBE ONE MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX
DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE SITE.
THE APPLICANT IS, AND I DO NEED TO MAKE A CORRECTION TO OUR
STAFF REPORT.
OUR STAFF REPORT INCORRECTLY LIFTED F.A.R. AS 0.24.
THE F.A.R. IS 0.17.
SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 0.17 F.A.R. WHICH IS BELOW THE
INTENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE CMU 35 DESIGNATION.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND
FOUND NO ADVERSE IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE REZONING WILL ALLOW FOR BETTER UTILIZATION OF THE LAND
THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE
CMU 35 DESIGNATION.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROMOTES PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND
ENCOURAGING COMMERCIAL ALONG DEVELOPMENT TO ENHANCE THE CITY
OF TAMPA CHARACTER AND AMBIENCE.
DOING SO, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO CONNECT
THE BUILDING INTEREST TO PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
THE PROPOSED PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS PROVIDING FIVE FOOT
SIDEWALK ALONG GRADY AVENUE WHICH WILL CONNECT THE EXISTING
SIDEWALK ALONG HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
THE PROPOSED SIDEWALKS ALONG ALL ADJACENT RIGHT-OF-WAYS WILL

HELP ENSURE THE SIDEWALKS INTERCONNECT WITH FUTURE
DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA.
IN CONCLUSION, THE PROPOSED PD ZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR
DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMPATIBLE AND COMPARABLE WITH THE
CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND IS CONSISTENT
WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED UNDER THE CMU 35
FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
9:14:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU.
9:14:32PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
REZ 22-97 IS FOR US TO REZONE -- REQUEST TO REZONE FROM CG
TO PD FOR RESTAURANT, FOR 4004 HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY .3 ACRES IN SIZE LOCATED
SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF WEST NEPTUNE STREET AND SOUTH
GANDY AVENUE.
SHOWN IN THE RED OUTLINE.
THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING SUBJECT SITE ARE DEVELOPED WITH
VARIOUS COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USE TYPES.
PROPERTY DIRECTLY NORTH AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS
ZONED CG.
PROPERTY SOUTH AND EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ARE EITHER ZONED
CG OR RS 75.
A TOTAL -- THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SEVERAL WAIVERS, AND

ONE OF THE WAIVERS REGARDING TRANSPORTATION IS TO REDUCE THE
NUMBER OF TOTAL PARKING SPACES IN 25 TO 21.
THE FUTURE LAND USE IS CMU 35.
THE REQUESTED F.A.R. OF .17 IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT FUTURE
LAND USE.
OVERALL, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF FOUND THE
REQUEST INCONSISTENT BASED ON TRANSPORTATION COMMENTS.
HOWEVER, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION FOUND THE REQUEST
CONSISTENT.
APPLICATION MODIFICATION TO THE SITE PLAN MUST BE COMPLETED
BY THE APPLICANT IN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING OF THE
ORDINANCE AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET.
I'M GOING TO POINT OUT SOME PICTURES.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG GRADY AVENUE.
AS WELL AS THE SITE ALONG HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
ANOTHER VIEW ALONG HENDERSON, ALONG GRADY, AND THEN AT THE
INTERSECTION OF NEPTUNE AND HENDERSON NORTHWEST OF THE SITE.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
9:16:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
THANK YOU.
9:17:06PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.
RYAN MASSEY WITH JOHNSON POPE LAW FIRM.
I'M THEIR DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT.
TAMPA, 33602.

WE'RE HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING STREETLIGHT TACOS FOR THE
PROPOSED REZONING REQUESTED FROM CG TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
FOR THE RESTAURANT USE AND ALL CG USES.
IN OUR REVIEW OF THIS, KIND OF A TEXTBOOK REDEVELOPMENT CASE
WHERE PLATTING AND CONSTRUCTION OCCURRED PRIOR TO THE CODE
WHICH MAKES THE SITE UNIQUE WITH ANY KIND OF REDEVELOPMENT.
I'LL FURTHER EXPLAIN THAT AS WELL.
ON SCREEN RIGHT HERE IS -- WELL, IT IS THE LAST PLAT WHICH
IS FROM 1924 BUT ORIGINALLY PLATTED IN 1915 AND CONSTRUCTION
OF THE SITE ACTUALLY OCCURRED ON THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IN
1957.
I'LL ORIENTATE THIS A LITTLE BIT JUST SO YOU KNOW WHERE
WE'RE AT.
HERE IS HENDERSON AND THEN THERE IS GRADY AVENUE.
ADDITIONALLY ON THE SURVEY I HIGHLIGHTED SOME GREEN AREAS.
YOU'LL SEE THAT THROUGHOUT SOME OF MY SLIDE PRESENTATIONS
FOR EASE OF UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE SIDEWALKS ARE LOCATED
AND GREENSPACE, ET CETERA.
AGAIN, THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY, IF YOU'LL SEE HERE, IT'S NOT
AS YOU MAY LOOK AT THIS AND THINK OUT HERE.
THIS IS THE ACTUAL PROPERTY BOUNDARY.
ALMOST A TRIANGLE SHAPED PROPERTY AND THEN IT RUNS UP HERE
AND HERE.
SO THIS IS A VERY UNIQUELY SHAPED LOT.
AGAIN, A PLATTED LOT OF RECORD AND THIS IS AN EXISTING

STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING TO OR THROUGH THIS
PROPOSAL.
CURRENTLY, THERE IS PARKING LOCATED OFF THE HENDERSON.
YOU HAVE YOUR ACCESS HERE AND THESE DIAGONAL SPACES.
THEN IT WRAPS AROUND INTO AN EXISTING DRIVE-THROUGH AS WELL
AS THERE'S PARKING LOCATED HERE THAT'S WITHIN THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THERE'S MANEUVERING IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
AND THEN YOU HAVE EXIT AND I'LL SHOW YOU IN AN AERIAL SLIDE.
ACTUALLY, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE TWO EXITS FOR THAT
DRIVE-IN WINDOW AS WELL AS CARS BACKING UP AND EXITING ON TO
HENDERSON.
ONE THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT HERE WOULD BE THE MASSIVE
AMOUNT OF ASPHALT THAT YOU SEE HERE.
THERE'S NO CURBS.
THERE'S REALLY NO DIRECTION.
ADDITIONALLY, THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, IF YOU CALCULATE THE
OUTLINE, WHICH WOULD BE -- I'LL TRY TO POINT IT OUT FOR YOU
HERE, IS RIGHT HERE, THIS WHITE AREA.
THAT IS THE EXISTING BUILDING.
THEN YOU HAVE THESE TWO LARGE OUTDOOR PATIO AREAS AND THE
OUTDOOR PATIO DECK HERE.
AND THAT COMBINED AREA IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 23, 2400 SQUARE
FEET, AND THAT, AGAIN, INCLUDES THAT INDOOR AND OUTDOOR
AREA.
AGAIN, THERE IS AN EXISTING DRIVE-THROUGH, AND THEN WHAT

WE'RE GOING TO SHOW NEXT IS JUST THE AERIAL WHERE I JUST
SHOWED YOU SOME ARROWS, REEXPLAINING HOW THAT CIRCULATION
MAY WORK.
I'M NOT CONDONING THIS, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE BACK NEAR
GRADY, THERE IS NOTHING BUT ASPHALT AND OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN
COME IN AND OFF GRADY AVENUE AND GO IN THIS WAY POSSIBLY
DOWN THE WRONG WAY AND THEN THERE'S DOUBLE EXITS ONTO
HENDERSON.
SO FAST FORWARDING TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO YOU.
WE'RE PROPOSING THIS REZONE -- REZONING AND REESTABLISHING
SOME PROPER INGRESS AND EGRESS POINTS.
AS YOU'LL SEE, WE HAVE PARKING LOCATED HERE, WHICH IS PRETTY
MUCH THE EXISTING AREA, BUT THESE ARE COMPACT SPACES, WHICH
DOES RELATE TO ONE OF OUR WAIVERS WE'RE ASKING FROM
TRANSPORTATION.
THAT EQUATES TO ONE ADDITIONAL COMPACT SPACE WE'RE
REQUESTING.
AGAIN, THAT IS TO FACILITATE AS MANY PARKING SPACES AS WE
CAN ON THE SITE TO HELP TRAFFIC, PATRONS, AND THE
NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY.
ADDITIONALLY, SOMETHING YOU'LL NOTICE IS, AGAIN, I
HIGHLIGHTED THE GREEN AREAS.
THE HATCHED GREEN AREAS WOULD BE THE ON PROPERTY GREENSPACE
AND THEN THE OTHER GREEN AREAS JUST HELP ILLUMINATE WHERE
WE'RE GOING TO ADD GREENSPACE AND SIDEWALK TO THE EXISTING

SIDEWALK ALONG HENDERSON.
SO YOU HAVE HENDERSON HERE AND THEN THERE WAS NO SIDEWALK
HERE, WE WOULD BE ADDING THAT TO COMPLETE THAT CONNECTION.
AND THEN COMING OFF OF HENDERSON, GOING DOWN GRADY AVENUE,
PROVIDING THE SIDEWALK WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PER CODE AND
THESE PROPER INGRESS AND EGRESS POINTS.
AGAIN, THIS DIRECTIONAL CIRCULATION PROVIDES FOR SAFETY THAT
MAY NOT BE CURRENTLY HAPPENING BECAUSE THIS IS BASICALLY ALL
ASPHALT AND ANOTHER BIG POINT TO POINT OUT HERE IS THAT
WE'RE REMOVING THE EXISTING DRIVE-IN WINDOW.
THROUGH OUR DRC REVIEW WITH STAFF, WE WERE TRYING TO RETAIN
THAT, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY ORIGINALLY A SPECIAL USE 2.
IT HAD TO GET CONVERTED TO A PD DUE TO THE ADDITIONAL
WAIVERS, BUT WE DID NIX THE DRIVE-IN WINDOW DUE TO SAFETY
CONCERNS.
JONATHAN SCOTT I BELIEVE POINTED OUT SOME OF THE SAFETY
CONCERNS.
AND WE COULD HAVE CAME AND ASKED FOR THE WAIVER AND GONE
WITH THAT.
BUT INSTEAD, WE DECIDED, YOU KNOW WHAT?
IF THIS HELPS BUFFER THE REAR OF THE BUILDING THAT HAS NEVER
HAD THAT TYPE OF BUFFER, AT LEAST IN MY REVIEW OF THE
PROPERTY AND IT PROVIDES MORE SAFETY FOR CIRCULATION.
AGAIN, THE SIDEWALK HERE CONNECTS THE GRADY AVENUE AND
ANDERSON AVENUE TO THE STRUCTURE AND WE'RE PROVIDING BICYCLE

PARKING AS WELL.
AGAIN, ON-SITE, WE'RE PROVIDING 21 PARKING SPACES, THERE IS
A MINOR REDUCTION THAT WE ARE REQUESTING WITH THAT, BUT WE
BELIEVE WITH THE ALTERNATE MEANS THAT YOU USE BICYCLES AND
BIKE RACK THAT'S LOCATED HERE.
IN ADDITION TO THE WALKABILITY AND MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY
DESIGN, WE THINK THAT'S JUSTIFIED WITH THAT.
ADDITIONALLY, WE ADD GREENSPACE, AS I STATED, AND JUST THIS
AREA ALONE ADDS THIS ADDITIONAL BUFFER THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT
EVEN IN EXISTENCE WITH THIS ESTABLISHMENT.
THIS SLIDE, THIS IS JUST COMBINING THE TWO SLIDES THAT I
BRIEFLY WENT OVER.
THE EXISTING IS ON THE RIGHT AND THE PROPOSED IS ON THE
LEFT.
AND THIS IS BETTER TO OUTLINE THE CONFIGURATION.
AGAIN, JUST TO FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THE SITE, SO YOU
HAVE THIS DASHED LINE IS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
THIS DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE EXISTING PATIO AREA, BUT
WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO IS ENCLOSE THAT AREA AND EXTEND THAT
TOWARDS HENDERSON MORE AND LEAVE AN OUTDOOR AREA HERE AS
WELL AS AN OUTDOOR AREA OVER HERE.
SO WITH THAT, ALL OTHER REVIEWERS WITH STAFF WERE CONSISTENT
EXCEPT FOR TRANSPORTATION AS ANNIE POINTED OUT, AND WE WOULD
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

9:23:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MANASSE ON 15 FIRST?
WE'RE GOING TO HEAR BOTH AND THEN WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
NO QUESTIONS OF MR. MANASSE.
WILL YOU TAKE NUMBER 3 NOW?
9:23:54PM >> DID YOU WANT STAFF TO PRESENT FIRST?
9:23:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
THANK YOU.
9:24:05PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THE AB 2 ASSOCIATED IS AB 2-22-13 FOR 4004 HENDERSON
BOULEVARD.
THE REQUEST IS A SMALL VENUE, BEER WINE AND LIQUOR
CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
THE PROPOSED USE, AS YOU ALREADY SAW IS A RESTAURANT.
IT DOES CURRENTLY HAVE AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES AS A
SPECIAL RESTAURANT.
THERE ARE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR AB SALES AREA AS LISTED ON THE
SITE PLAN.
THERE IS ALREADY CLARIFIED THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING
SEVERAL WAIVERS THROUGH THE REZONING INCLUDING REDUCTION IN
PARKING AND THE SITE PLAN DOES STATE THAT THE PROPOSED HOURS
ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN A MIXED USE CORRIDOR
AND THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT IS 250 FEET FROM ALL
OTHER AB ESTABLISHMENTS AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
THEREFORE, THERE IS A WAIVER TO REDUCE SEPARATION FROM A

RESIDENTIAL USE FROM 250 FEET TO 61 FEET.
AND OTHER AB ESTABLISHMENTS FROM 3914 WEST NEPTUNE STREET.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
9:25:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
SEEING NONE, MR. MANASSE.
9:25:46PM >> THANK YOU.
RYAN MANASSE WITH JOHNSON POPE LAW FIRM, THEIR DIRECTOR OF
DEVELOPMENT, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
FOR THIS REQUEST, WE'RE, AGAIN, THE APPLICANT STREETLIGHT
TACOS, PROPOSING SPECIAL USE 2 REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGES FOR A SMALL VENUE.
THE PROPOSED USE BEING THE RESTAURANT.
THIS IS GOING TO LOOK VERY FAMILIAR.
OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T GO OVER THE REZONING DETAILS AGAIN WITH
THE ALCOHOL.
STICK TO THE ALCOHOL.
THE SMALL VENUE IS FOR BEER, WINE, LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES ONLY.
THERE'S THREE AB AREAS AND THE LARGE AREA WOULD BE THE
INDOOR AREA AT 2193 SQUARE FEET.
THE IMMEDIATE ADJACENT OUTDOOR AREA IS 287 SQUARE FEET ALONG
HENDERSON.
AND THEN IN THIS CORNER WHERE HENDERSON AND GRADY COLLIDE --
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S COLLIDE, I'LL USE THAT TERM UNLESS

JONATHAN CORRECTS ME.
768 SQUARE FEET FOR OUTDOOR AREA.
COMBINED AB AREA THAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS 3,248 SQUARE FEET.
AGAIN, THESE ARE THE THREE AB AREAS, AND WE'RE PROVIDING THE
21 PARKING SPACES.
ANY LAND USE WAIVERS ARE REQUESTED ON THE REZONING, SO THE
ONE WAIVER WE ARE REQUESTING HERE IS FROM THE DISTANCE TO
RESIDENTIAL USES.
AGAIN, THIS IS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT WE ARE ADDING ON
TO.
THAT EXISTING FOOTPRINT IS ALMOST THE SAME, EXCEPT FOR WE'RE
ENCLOSING A LOT OF THAT AREA TO TRY TO MAKE MORE AREA FOR
THE RESTAURANT.
AGAIN, THIS RETAINS THE SAME DETAILS THAT THE REZONING WOULD
WITH THE INGRESS AND EGRESS ACCESS FROM HENDERSON AND
DIRECTIONAL TRAFFIC AND THEN THESE PROPER VUA AREAS WITH
LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING FOR THE REAR TO INCLUDE ADA SPACES
AND THESE THREE PARALLEL PARKING SPACES.
IT DOES HAVE THE SIDEWALK AGAIN THAT CONNECTS FOR OUR SITE
TO HENDERSON.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
I'M SORRY.
I COULD JUST GO OVER THE FLOOR PLAN REALLY FAST.
JUST TO SHOW YOU, SO THE FLOOR PLAN THAT WAS SUPPLIED WITH

THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SPECIAL USE, THIS IS THE OUTDOOR
AREA, THIS IS REMINISCENT OF MOST RESTAURANTS, BECAUSE
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.
THERE'S A SMALL BAR TOP AREA, BUT FOR ALL INTENTS AND
PURPOSES, THIS IS A RESTAURANT.
STATED AS THAT THROUGH THE SPECIAL USE.
SO FOOD CONSUMPTION WILL ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE DURING ALCOHOL
CONSUMPTION.
AND JUST BRIEFLY TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS
OF THE STRUCTURE, SO, AGAIN, KEEPING MAINLY THAT AREA THAT
THE BUILDING AND THE OUTDOOR PATIO ALREADY IS IN AND
UPDATING THE STRUCTURE TO MAKE IT -- PROJECT COME TO LIFE.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
9:28:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:28:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY OUTDOOR MUSIC, OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED?
I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE CITRO.
9:28:39PM >> WE COULD PROPOSE -- I KNOW ANNIE STATED THE HOURS OF
OPERATION ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN PROPOSE 9 A.M. TO 9 P.M.,
SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
AND THEN THE 9 A.M. TO 10 P.M. FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY,
WHICH TYPICALLY WOULD TAKE CARE OF ANY KIND OF OUTDOOR
AMPLIFIED SOUND BECAUSE THE ESTABLISHMENT WOULD BE CLOSED.
9:28:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT WILL BE ON THE SITE PLAN AND
EVERYTHING AND --

9:29:02PM >> WE CAN AGREE TO THAT.
FOR THE RECORD, I'LL STATE IT AGAIN.
STATE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING THAT THE HOURS OF
OPERATION WILL BE 9 A.M. TO 9 P.M. SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY
AND THEN 9 A.M. TO 10 P.M. FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
9:29:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:29:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DOES THAT FINISH WITH YOUR PRESENTATION?
9:29:20PM >> YES, SIR.
9:29:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TO ITEMS NUMBER
3 AND 15?
9:29:26PM >> YES.
HI THERE.
I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
MY NAME IS RICH LOVINGER.
I AM THE OWNER OF 4016 HENDERSON BOULEVARD, WHICH IS RIGHT
NEXT DOOR TO WHERE THE SITE IS.
I ACTUALLY WALKED THE PARKING TODAY.
THERE IS NOT 25 PARKING SPOTS.
THERE'S 11 ON ONE SIDE.
THERE'S 4 ON ONE SIDE.
THERE'S ANOTHER 4 WITH THE HANDICAP.
THAT IS A TOTAL OF 19 RIGHT NOW.
WHEN THEY EXPAND THE BUILDING, THERE'S GOING TO BE FOUR
LESS, SO THAT WOULD BE 15.
AND THE PROBLEM IS WHEN THEY HAD HOLY HOG THERE IN THE PAST,

A LOT OF PEOPLE KEPT PARKING IN MY SPOT, WHICH IS MY
PROFESSIONAL BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE.
WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IS NOT REALLY COMPATIBLE TO THE
SURROUNDING AREA AS THEY USE IT.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO INVEST IN PUTTING CAMERAS UP THERE,
HAVING A TOW SERVICE TO TOW CARS DURING THE DAY BECAUSE THEY
CONSISTENTLY OVERFLOW PARKING.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THEY HAVE FOUR EMPLOYEES WORKING
THERE, IF THERE'S 15 SPOTS, FOUR SPOTS LEFT, MAKE IT 11
SPOTS.
WHERE IS THE OVERFLOW PARKING GOING TO GO?
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A DRIVE-THROUGH ANYMORE.
WHERE IS IT GOING TO GO?
THEY ARE GOING TO START PARKING IN MY SPOTS ALL THE TIME,
AND I CAN'T HAVE THAT.
I KNOW YOU SAID YES A LOT TONIGHT, AND I HOPE YOU RECONSIDER
AND SAY NO.
I'VE BEEN THERE IN THE BUILDING SINCE 2008.
9:31:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IS THAT THE OLD CASTELLANO PIZZA
BUILDING?
9:31:13PM >> NO, NO.
IT'S FARTHER DOWN.
I'M NOT SURE HOW CAME UP WITH 25 BUT THERE'S NOT 25 THERE
NOW, NOT EVEN 21.
IT'S SUCH A SMALL AREA, YOU CAN'T FIT MORE THAN WHAT THEY

ARE LOOKING TO PROPOSE, AGAIN, I'LL SAY THIS AGAIN, MORE
THAN 11 PARKING SPOTS THERE.
I WOULD LIKE MAYBE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS LIVE AROUND THERE,
MAYBE COME WALK THERE AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
9:31:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
9:31:56PM >> JUST TO BE CLEAR AND STAFF CAN CONFIRM, THIS IS THE
PROPOSED PLAN, AND WE ARE PROVIDING 21 PARKING SPACES.
WE CANNOT DEVIATE, AS YOU KNOW, WITH A PD AND I THINK TYLER
ALLUDED TO SOME OF THAT BEFORE WITH SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE
CRITERIA, ONCE YOU HAVE AN APPROVED PD THAT'S WHAT YOU MUST
DEVELOP TO.
THE SETBACKS ARE LAID OUT HERE AS WELL AS THE PARKING,
INGRESS, EGRESS POINTS AND THIS IS 21 SPACES.
I BELIEVE THE GENTLEMAN IS CORRECT, THERE'S PROBABLY I THINK
PER THE SURVEY 18 SPACES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON-SITE.
AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS NOT THE EXISTING.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING THROUGH THIS REZONING IS WHAT YOU SEE
RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DEVELOP TO.
WE WOULD BE ADDING ADDITIONAL VUA AREAS TO PROPERLY KEEP
VEHICLES AND PEDESTRIANS FROM RIDING ON THE STREETS OR
RIDING IN THAT AREA THAT IS A DRIVE-THROUGH NOW AND REMOVING
A DRIVE-THROUGH WHICH I THINK FROM A TRANSPORTATION
STANDPOINT WOULD BE AN INCREASE IN INTENSITY, ADDING QUEUING

LANES AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, AND STAFF, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO
CONFIRM.
THIS IS WHAT WAS REVIEWED, PROVIDING 21 PARKING SPACES.
THAT IS THE PARKING THAT WILL BE SUPPLIED FOR THE USE.
9:33:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ARE YOU COUNTING THREE PARALLEL PARKING
SPACES NEXT TO THE BUILDING?
OKAY.
I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE UNCLEAR IN THIS DRAWING.
I WAS TRYING TO COUNT AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN COME TO
IT.
9:33:29PM >> BECAUSE THEY ARE TAKING THE DRIVE-THROUGH.
9:33:32PM >> RIGHT.
WHEN WE DID THE PLANS AND WENT THROUGH THE REVIEWS, WE WERE
TRYING TO AT FIRST KEEPING IT MINIMAL AND KEEPING THAT
EXISTING DRIVE-THROUGH WHICH, AGAIN, FROM THE EXISTING SITE
-- I COULD UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORS' CONCERNS.
THERE'S NO DIRECTION FOR ANYBODY BACK HERE AND THERE IS A
DRIVE-THROUGH ON TOP OF THAT.
WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING IS MORE DIRECTION MORE SAFETY, BUT YES,
THREE SPACES THERE, ADA SPACE, ADDITIONAL DIAGONAL SPACES
AND COMPACT SPACES ON THIS SIDE.
9:34:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MIGHT I SUGGEST WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBOR ON
PARKING SIGNS.
I LIVE IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS WHERE THIS IS A HUGE CONCERN.

SO THEY DO A LOT OF GIANT SIGNS.
IF YOU PARK IN THIS AREA, YOU WILL BE TOWED.
9:34:22PM >> ON THE SUBJECT SITE THAT WE ARE HERE?
9:34:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M JUST SAYING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBOR ON
THAT.
9:34:27PM >> WE WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
OF COURSE.
9:34:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN
EFFECTIVE IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, IF -- IF IT IS A NICE BIG
SIGN, PROFESSIONAL, IT'S ATTACHED TO YOUR STRUCTURE, YOUR
WALLS, YOUR EVERYTHING.
9:34:43PM >> I'M SURE THE CLIENT WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT.
9:34:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN TOW A CAR WITHOUT A
SIGN.
9:34:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
JUST WARNING PEOPLE THAT -- I THINK THAT WOULD HELP IN
WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THIS.
9:35:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS THERE IS A PLACE
CALLED THE SEA HOUSE.
I'M TERRIFIED TO VISIT THERE BECAUSE AM I GOING TO GET
TOWED?
IF YOU DON'T PARK IN THE LOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE SIGNS
THROUGHOUT THAT SAY ACTIVE TOWING THROUGHOUT THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEY ACTIVELY TOW.

AND THEY ARE VERY GOOD AND VERY QUICK AT TOWING TO THE POINT
THAT I'M SCARED TO GO THERE SOMETIMES.
THERE'S ALSO ELLA'S AND ELLA'S IS NEXT TO A VALUE PAWN AND
THEY HAVE A SIGN THERE SAYING ELLA'S PARKING AFTER 6 OR
WHENEVER THE PAWNSHOP CLOSES IF THERE'S ANY OVERFLOW.
THE GENTLEMAN HAS HIS BUSINESS ASSUMING HE HAS X AMOUNT OF
SPACES, ASSUMING HE HAS CLIENTS, ASSUMING IF A CLIENT NEEDS
TO VISIT AND THEY ARE ABUSING THE NEIGHBORS, THE TACO PLACE,
HIS PARKING, HE'S GOING TO LOSE BUSINESS.
IT WILL AFFECT HIM FINANCIALLY AND THE VERY LEAST SHOULD BE
CLEAR SIGNS SAYING YOU WILL BE TOWED OR THE GENTLEMAN COULD
ALSO CONTACT A TOWING COMPANY, WHICH HE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.
I MEAN, HE'S A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
HE SHOULD BE NEXT DOOR TO FOLKS THAT RESPECT AND TAKE IT
SERIOUSLY.
HE COULD CONTACT A TOWING COMPANY.
BRING A SIGN AND HE'LL JUST START TOWING PEOPLE LEFT AND
RIGHT.
BUT I WOULD ASK, PLEASE, AND I KNOW YOU.
YOU KNOW HOW THIS WORKS, BUT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE
GENTLEMAN'S PARKING NEXT DOOR.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE ADDING, YOU'RE REMOVING THE
DRIVE-THROUGH, ADDING THE THREE PARALLEL SPACES, SO THERE IS
THE TOTAL NUMBER YOU'RE SHOWING PLUS BICYCLE PARKING AND
WHATNOT.

BUT HE'S GOT A BUSINESS TO RUN AND HE'S NOT GOING TO BE
LOSING MONEY BECAUSE OF THIS.
IT'S JUST WRONG.
THANK YOU.
9:36:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?
9:36:56PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
9:36:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE 15 FIRST?
9:37:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE REZ-22-97, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
4004 HENDERSON BOULEVARD, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CG (COMMERCIAL GENERAL) TO PD
(PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESTAURANT, AND ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL
USES); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:37:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
9:37:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
9:37:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
9:37:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

9:37:51PM >> CARLSON?
GUDES?
9:37:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
9:37:54PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
9:37:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
9:37:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
9:37:58PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 6th,
2022, AT 9:30 A.M.
9:38:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE
NUMBER 3?
9:38:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN, AB 2-22-13, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT (S-2) FOR
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON
THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 4004
HENDERSON BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR
PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:38:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:38:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

9:38:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
9:38:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
9:38:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
9:38:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
9:38:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
9:38:54PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 6th,
2022, AT 9:30 A.M.
9:39:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S HAVE INFORMATION REPORTS.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:39:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
JUST ONE, IF I MAY.
I WANTED TO GIVE A COMMENDATION, RADIANT HANDS, A WONDERFUL
REFUGEE ASSISTANCE GROUP IS HAVING THEIR GALA.
I WANTED TO PRESENT ONE IF I MAY.
9:39:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
9:39:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
9:39:29PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
NOTHING ELSE.
9:39:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
CAN YOU PLEASE SAY THAT AGAIN?
YOUR MOTION.
THE DATE.

9:39:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M SORRY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT DATE THAT IS.
IT'S GOING TO BE OFF-PREMISES.
I CAN GET YOU ALL THE DATE.
I JUST SAW IT COME IN AN E-MAIL TO US.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT DATE THAT IS.
I CAN GET IT FOR YOU GUYS.
9:39:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:39:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BECAUSE IT'S -- WE MEET NEXT THURSDAY, I
WANT TO WISH OUR FORMER MAYOR DICK GRECO A HAPPY BIRTHDAY,
WHICH IS WEDNESDAY, AND HE WILL BE 89 YEARS OLD THIS YEAR.
WE LOVE YOU, MAYOR.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
HAPPY EARLY BIRTHDAY.
9:40:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:40:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TODAY.
9:40:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:40:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BETWEEN GRECO AND I, IT'S 170 YEARS.
THAT'S IT.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BIG MAYOR.
TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF.
9:40:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION RECOGNIZING

CHILDHOOD CANCER AWARENESS MONTH AND THE AMAZING CHILDREN
WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THE DISEASE.
28 CHILDREN A DAY OR ABOUT 10 AND A HALF THOUSAND CHILDREN
WILL BE DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER THIS YEAR.
IT REMAINS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH BY DISEASE FOR
AMERICAN CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 15.
SURVIVORS FACE MANY PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL, AND COGNITIVE
CHANGES.
MY OFFICE, MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE KNOWS THE CHALLENGES OF
CHILDHOOD CANCER ALL TOO WELL.
BUT THOSE WHO FIGHT THE DISEASE AND THEIR FAMILIES ARE NOT
WITHOUT HOPE BECAUSE OF ADVANCES IN RECENT DECADES.
85 PERCENT OF CHILDREN WITH CANCER NOW SURVIVE FIVE YEARS OR
MORE COMPARED TO 50 YEARS AGO WITH LESS THAN 60 PERCENT.
JUST LIKE LITTLE REMY, HE IS ALIVE BECAUSE OF AMAZING FUNDED
RESEARCH BY DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS THAT SAVED HIS LIFE.
AND NOT ONLY OUR CHILDREN LIVING TOGETHER, BUT THEY WILL
ALSO HAVE SUPPORT AND A NETWORK OF INCREDIBLE HEALTH CARE
PROFESSIONALS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO SUPPORT THEM.
WE RECOGNIZE THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE DONE A GREAT WORK
TO SUPPORT THESE FAMILIES, LIKE THE CHILDREN'S CANCER
CENTER.
ONE VOICE FOUNDATION.
FIN'S FIGHTERS.
THE KID'S CONNECTION AND LEUKEMIA LYMPHOMA SOCIETY.

THIS COMMENDATION WILL BE PRESENTED OFF-SITE AT A LATER
DATE.
9:42:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN CITRO.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
9:42:22PM >> MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
9:42:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LET'S REMEMBER THE FAMOUS WORDS OF JOHNNY
LYDON, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.
9:42:32PM >> MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
9:42:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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