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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 6, 2022
9:00 A.M.
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09:01:55AM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
09:01:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY
09:02:00AM COUNCIL MEETING TODAY, OCTOBER 6, 2020 -- EXCUSE ME, 2022.
09:02:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DON'T TALK ABOUT 2020.
09:02:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO GET IT OUT OF MY
09:02:18AM MIND.
09:02:18AM WHO HAS THE INVOCATION TODAY?
09:02:23AM IS THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES?
09:02:34AM COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS THE INVOCATION?
09:02:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:02:38AM ONE SECOND.
09:02:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU HAVE INVOCATION?
09:03:11AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I I HAVE THE DISTINCT PLEASURE OF
09:03:14AM INTRODUCING WHAT WE CALL MOTHER IN THE CHURCH.
09:03:17AM MOTHER HAYES.
09:03:19AM IF YOU WILL COME TO THE PODIUM FOR US, PLEASE.
09:03:24AM MOTHER HAYES IS A MEMBER OF BROWN MEMORIAL CHURCH IN CHRIST.
09:03:32AM CURRENTLY SERVING AS A SUNDAY SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT, MEMBER
09:03:36AM OF THE MOTHERS BOARD, EVANGELIST, AND PRESIDENT OF THE HOME
09:03:41AM MISSION.
09:03:41AM SHE HAS BEEN APPOINTED THE DISTRICT MISSIONARY OF THE
09:03:44AM GREATER SOUTH COAST DISTRICT.
09:03:46AM SERVES AS A PINELLAS SUNDAY SCHOOL FIELD REPRESENTATIVE.
09:03:49AM GREATER LOVE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE.
09:03:53AM FIELD REPRESENTATIVE AND WAS APPOINTED INDUCTION SUNDAY
09:03:59AM SCHOOL FIELD REPRESENTATIVE.
09:04:01AM A BIG POST.
09:04:02AM MARRIED TO EDDIE HAYES AND THE PROUD PARENTS OF THREE
09:04:08AM CHILDREN.
09:04:08AM HER SON BERNARD WORKS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:04:11AM WELCOME MOTHER HAYES.
09:04:14AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:04:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE RISE FOR THE FOR THE PLEDGE OF
09:04:22AM ALLEGIANCE.
09:04:22AM >> FATHER, WE LOVE YOU, WE PRAISE YOU RIGHT NOW GOD.
09:04:26AM THANK YOU FOR STANDING HERE AND GIVE YOU GLORY.
09:04:29AM THANK YOU FOR EVERY COUNCILMEN AND WOMAN IN THE BUILDING.
09:04:33AM AND THANK YOU THAT YOU WILL GIVE THE GLORY.
09:04:36AM BLESS YOU THAT WE KEPT BODIES.
09:04:39AM CAME THROUGH A HURRICANE AND WE ARE STILL FAMILY.
09:04:41AM THE PRAYING FOR THE BEREAVED FAMILY OF THE OFFICER, GOD.
09:04:46AM AND EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF TODAY YOU ASK
09:04:49AM THAT WE HAVE IT DONE.
09:04:50AM ALL THE GLORY AND THE PRAISE AND THE HONOR IN YOUR PRECIOUS
09:04:54AM SON IN JESUS'S NAME, THANK GOD AND AMEN.
09:04:57AM >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE OF THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF
09:05:02AM AMERICA.
09:05:02AM AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
09:05:04AM ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE
09:05:11AM FOR ALL.
09:05:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:05:14AM PLEASE BE SEATED.
09:05:15AM ROLL CALL PLEASE.
09:05:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:05:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:05:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:05:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:05:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:05:31AM >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:05:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
09:05:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE
09:05:38AM COUNCIL.
09:05:39AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:05:41AM TODAY'S MEETING OCTOBER 6, 2022 BEING HELD HERE AT TAMPA
09:05:45AM CITY COUNCIL LIVE WITH A FULL COUNCIL PRESENT.
09:05:48AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND IN PERSON HERE IN CITY
09:05:52AM COUNCIL CHAMBERS 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD OR VIRTUALLY
09:05:55AM PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS THE
09:05:58AM FLORIDA STATUTE AND RULES AND COMMUNICATION MEDIA
09:06:01AM TECHNOLOGY.
09:06:02AM TO SPEAK REMOTELY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE USE
09:06:07AM OF CMT, THE PUBLIC SHOULD NOTE THAT CMT REQUIRES
09:06:11AM PREREGISTRATION AND AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CITY'S WEB SITE
09:06:16AM AT WWW.TAMPA.GOV/PUBLICCOMMENT.
09:06:20AM DISCUSSIONS ARE ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AND THE
09:06:23AM AGENDA AND THE NOTICE OF TODAY'S MEETING.
09:06:25AM A REMINDER, COUNCIL, THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO USE EQUIPMENT
09:06:32AM THAT HAS VIDEO AND AUDIO FOR THE PURPOSES OF QUASI-JUDICIAL
09:06:38AM HEARINGS AND THAT, AGAIN, IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE
09:06:41AM INSTRUCTIONS.
09:06:42AM I ASK THAT CITY COUNCIL WAIVE ITS RULES TO ALLOW THE
09:06:46AM CONTINUED USE OF CMT AT THIS TIME.
09:06:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
09:06:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
09:06:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:06:52AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:06:54AM LET'S GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
09:06:58AM I KNOW OF ONE ITEM, NUMBER 4, I AM GOING TO ASK TO BE
09:07:05AM CONTINUED UNTIL OCTOBER 20.
09:07:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE UNTIL OCTOBER 20.
09:07:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:07:15AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:07:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST SO YOU KNOW IT IS SET AS
09:07:20AM A PRESENTATION, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNCIL WILL
09:07:22AM PROBABLY BE ASKED TO TAKE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AT THAT
09:07:25AM TIME.
09:07:26AM SO JUST SO COUNCIL IS AWARE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO ALLOW PUBLIC
09:07:30AM COMMENT FOR THAT BEFORE YOU TAKE ACTION.
09:07:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL BE SENDING OUT A MEMO TO INFORM ALL
09:07:37AM COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:07:38AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:07:40AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:07:41AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:07:42AM OKAY.
09:07:43AM GO THROUGH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.
09:07:47AM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A REPORT BY, I BELIEVE, CHIEF OF STAFF
09:07:54AM FOR -- WE WILL MAKE THAT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6.
09:07:57AM IT IS GOING TO BE THE -- A REPORT FROM OUR HURRICANE THAT
09:08:02AM JUST WENT BY US, HURRICANE IAN.
09:08:05AM OKAY.
09:08:07AM STAFF REPORTS, 7, YES?
09:08:12AM 8?
09:08:14AM YES?
09:08:16AM THANK YOU.
09:08:16AM WE ARE GOING QUICKLY HERE.
09:08:18AM MISS WELLS WILL BE PRESENTING ON 9.
09:08:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM REQUESTING THAT THE PUBLIC BE ALLOWED TO
09:08:24AM COMMENT ON ITEM 9 AFTER THE STAFF REPORTS.
09:08:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
09:08:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:08:32AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:08:34AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:08:35AM AYE.
09:08:37AM NUMBER 10.
09:08:43AM AND I BELIEVE THAT IS ONLY GOING TO BE JUST FOR
09:08:47AM INFORMATIONAL.
09:08:48AM NO?
09:08:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOING TO BE CONTINUED.
09:08:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONTINUED UNTIL DECEMBER 1.
09:08:55AM >>CLERK: THAT'S CORRECT.
09:08:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 CONTINUED UNTIL
09:09:02AM NOVEMBER 1.
09:09:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:09:05AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAVE IT AS THE NEXT UPDATE SCHEDULED RATHER
09:09:10AM THAN A CONTINUATION.
09:09:12AM HAVE THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED ONE FOR DECEMBER 1.
09:09:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:09:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:09:19AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:09:21AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:09:21AM THANK YOU.
09:09:22AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11.
09:09:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T NEED -- I PROBABLY WILL MAKE SOME
09:09:28AM REMARKS BUT I DON'T NEED ANYBODY FOR THAT.
09:09:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT OPEN FOR
09:09:34AM DISCUSSION, BUT I DON'T NEED STAFF.
09:09:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU WANT TO SAY
09:09:39AM SOMETHING?
09:09:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
09:09:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12 -- 12, 13 AND 15.
09:09:45AM 12 MOVED TO OCTOBER 20.
09:09:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:09:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:09:51AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:09:53AM ALL IN FAVOR?
09:09:56AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13 WILL BE CONTINUED UNTIL OCTOBER 20.
09:09:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:10:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:10:02AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:10:04AM ALL IN FAVOR?
09:10:08AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14.
09:10:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE TO NOVEMBER 3.
09:10:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:10:16AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:10:18AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:10:19AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15 TO BE MOVED TO OCTOBER 20.
09:10:23AM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:10:25AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:10:27AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:10:29AM AYE.
09:10:30AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16.
09:10:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T NEED ANYBODY HERE FOR THAT.
09:10:35AM I WAS BRIEFED BY PHONE.
09:10:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 17 --
09:10:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO STAFF ON THAT ONE?
09:10:46AM THANK YOU, SIR.
09:10:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 17.
09:10:48AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
09:10:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T -- NO, I DON'T NEED STAFF FOR THAT.
09:10:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18.
09:11:05AM OKAY, KEEP THAT THERE.
09:11:11AM AND OUR ADDENDUM TO OUR FINAL AGENDA ITEMS.
09:11:16AM 51.
09:11:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 51?
09:11:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
09:11:25AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:11:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A NOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:11:29AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:11:30AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:11:31AM WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT 12, 13 AND 15.
09:11:36AM NUMBER 11?
09:11:43AM >> YES, SIR.
09:11:44AM I DON'T -- FOR NUMBER 11 WITH MacDONALD, CLIFFORD MacDONALD,
09:11:50AM I DON'T NEED ANYBODY THERE FOR THAT.
09:11:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY, 27.
09:11:55AM CERTAIN CHANGES.
09:11:56AM WE HAVE GOT -- CORRECTION TO THE TITLE LISTED.
09:12:03AM 48.
09:12:04AM AS WITH 49.
09:12:06AM OKAY.
09:12:09AM WE GOT THOSE TWO DONE.
09:12:11AM AND 68.
09:12:13AM TITLE OF THAT RESOLUTION IS ON THE AGENDA BELOW.
09:12:19AM JUST A CHANGE IN THAT RESOLUTION.
09:12:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PARDON?
09:12:25AM 88?
09:12:26AM AND -- SORRY, AND 27 IS A SUBSTITUTION, THAT'S CORRECT?
09:12:32AM >> 27 IS A CORRECTION.
09:12:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A CORRECTION.
09:12:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
09:12:37AM OH, TO THE TITLE ON THE AGENDA.
09:12:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:12:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE TALKED.THIS BEFORE BUT -- AS I UNDERSTAND
09:12:48AM THE DEADLINE FOR PUTTING THINGS ON THE AGENDA IS, I THINK,
09:12:52AM FRIDAY OF THE WEEK BEFORE.
09:12:53AM AND LAST NIGHT AT 10:00, WE STILL HAD ITEMS LIKE NUMBER 51
09:13:00AM THAT DID NOT HAVE BACK-UP.
09:13:01AM I REQUESTED SOME BACK-UP FOR IT THAT WAS NOT SENT TO US OR
09:13:07AM PUT ONLINE FOR A SEVEN PLUS MILLION DOLLAR ITEM -- I AM NOT
09:13:12AM DISCUSSING IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK WE NEED BACK-UP FOR
09:13:16AM THESE THINGS.
09:13:16AM AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHERS AS WELL THAT WE NEED
09:13:20AM BACK-UP FOR.
09:13:20AM SOME -- THERE WAS ONE ITEM YESTERDAY WE RECEIVED A BACK-UP
09:13:25AM BUT I THINK IT WAS -- ITEM NUMBER 11.
09:13:27AM WE RECEIVED A BACK-UP BUT NOT ON SIRE YET.
09:13:30AM BUT MY POINT IS A GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE THING, OUT OF
09:13:35AM RESPECT FOR THE PUBLIC IN PARTICULAR, WE NEED TO HAVE -- I
09:13:39AM THINK WE NEED TO SET A HARD RULE IF THE BACK-UP AND
09:13:42AM DOCUMENTS ARE NOT BY A CERTAIN TIME, IT HAS TO BE CONTINUED.
09:13:45AM WE SHOULDN'T HAVE DOCUMENTS ADDED THURSDAY MORNING.
09:13:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
09:13:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. ROGERO.
09:13:55AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, DENNIS ROGERO.
09:14:01AM I CAN SPEAK TO ITEM 51, AS PART OF A PRESENTATION AND WE
09:14:06AM PULLED IT FROM CONSENT.
09:14:07AM THE BACK-UP REQUEST WAS MADE FOLLOWING THE ITEM AND DURING
09:14:10AM THE WEEKLY BRIEFS FOR CITY COUNCIL.
09:14:13AM ON THE OTHER ITEMS, AGAIN, I WILL REMIND COUNCIL THIS AGENDA
09:14:18AM IS TAKING PLACE FOLLOWING A MAJOR EMERGENCY EVENT THAT YOU
09:14:22AM WILL ABOUT TO GET BRIEFED ON IT.
09:14:24AM SO SOME TIME FRAMES WILL NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE
09:14:28AM FOLLOWING A MAJOR HURRICANE.
09:14:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS WEEK, EVERYONE WILL UNDERSTAND BUT IT
09:14:33AM HAPPENS EVERY WEEK.
09:14:34AM THE PUBLIC IS CONTACTING ME AND MY COLLEAGUES -- NOT JUST
09:14:38AM TALKING ABOUT YOUR AREA.
09:14:39AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
09:14:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: CONSTANTLY THINGS THAT ARE MISSING.
09:14:44AM HUNDREDS OF ITEMS IN A WEEK AND WE HAVE TO READ THE AGENDA
09:14:48AM MULTIPLE TIMES AND CHANGES CONSTANTLY AND WE NEVER KNOW WHAT
09:14:51AM THE BACK-UPS ARE.
09:14:52AM MARTY CAN TELL US WHAT THE RULES ALREADY ARE, BUT IT SEEMS
09:14:56AM TO ME IF THE AGENDA ITEMS THIS DUE ON FRIDAY, IF THE BACK-UP
09:15:01AM ITEMS ARE NOT IN BY NOON ON MONDAY, WE WILL AUTOMATICALLY
09:15:05AM CONTINUE THE ITEMS.
09:15:05AM DO WE HAVE ANY RULE ON THAT?
09:15:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY WE DO AND I AM LOOKING AT THEM.
09:15:13AM ONE OF THE RULES THAT ELECTRONIC MEDIA WILL BE RECEIVED AT
09:15:16AM LEAST 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE AND ELECTRONIC MUST BE DELIVERED
09:15:19AM TO CCTV 48 HOURS PRIOR TO BROADCAST.
09:15:24AM RULE 5-D.
09:15:25AM THERE IS A RULE -- AND I BELIEVE IT IS ACTUALLY -- BY
09:15:29AM RECOLLECTION IS IT IS THE THURSDAY BEFORE.
09:15:32AM THAT CERTAINLY HAS --
09:15:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND
09:15:38AM ACCOUNTABILITY.
09:15:38AM AND THE PUBLIC CAN'T HAVE TRANSPARENCY IF THEY CAN'T HAVE
09:15:41AM THE DOCUMENT AS THE BACK-UPS AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
09:15:45AM ITEMS ARE ABOUT.
09:15:46AM COVER SHEET AND PLACE HOLDER.
09:15:48AM I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT A PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT AND HOLD UP
09:15:51AM ANYTHING TODAY, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC
09:15:53AM HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK AT THE BACK-UP DOCUMENTS -- AND
09:15:58AM WE HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT THEM -- WE SHOULD NOT BE GETTING
09:16:02AM PRESENTED WITH SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC DIDN'T HAVE HAVE A
09:16:05AM CHANCE TO READ.
09:16:06AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MR. CHAIRMAN --
09:16:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAIT, PLEASE.
09:16:09AM ARE YOU FINISH READING THE RULES OF PROCEDURES?
09:16:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME FIND IT IN THE MEANTIME --
09:16:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU WERE START IT AND YOU GOT CUT OFF.
09:16:20AM I WANTED YOU TO FINISH ON THAT.
09:16:22AM WHILE YOU ARE LOOKING --
09:16:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY, HERE IS WHAT IT SAYS, RULE 7-A,
09:16:33AM ALL PETITIONS, COMMUNICATIONS, STAFF REPORTS, RESOLUTIONS,
09:16:37AM ORDINANCES AND OTHER MATTERS INTENDED FOR THE CONSIDERATION
09:16:40AM OF THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE FILED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY
09:16:43AM CLERK ON OR BEFORE 2 P.M. ON THE THURSDAY PRIOR TO THE
09:16:47AM MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL.
09:16:48AM THE CITY CLERK SHALL ASSIGN -- THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ASSIGN
09:16:53AM RESOLUTIONS, ORDINANCES AND OTHER MATTERS TO THE MOST
09:16:56AM APPROPRIATE PLACEMENT ON THE AGENDA TAKING INTO
09:17:01AM CONSIDERATION THE PLACEMENT ON THE AGENDA.
09:17:04AM ORDINANCES UNDER FEES ARE PLACED UNDER STAFF REPORT.
09:17:07AM MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL ALSO REMIND COUNCIL THAT WITH REGARD TO
09:17:11AM THE CONTINUANCES MADE TO 12, 13 AND 15 THAT WILL BE
09:17:15AM DISCUSSED NEXT WEEK, AN E-MAIL FROM THE CHIEF OF STAFF SAYS
09:17:18AM IT IS GOING TO BE PART OF A COMPREHENSIVE PROCESS HOW THESE
09:17:22AM SORT OF THINGS ARE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND MIGHT BE AN
09:17:24AM APPROPRIATE TIME TO BRING IT UP AS WELL AT THAT POINT.
09:17:27AM CERTAINLY THE ISSUE OF HAVING THE ABILITY FOR YOU TO IT BE
09:17:33AM ABLE TO SEE THE MATERIAL IN ADVANCE GIVES YOU THE TIME TO BE
09:17:36AM ABLE TO FORMULATE QUESTIONS THAT MAKE YOUR TIME WITH STAFF
09:17:39AM AT THE MEETING THAT MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE TO YOU.
09:17:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:17:44AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
09:17:46AM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE HE READ IT IN ITS ENTIRETY.
09:17:49AM I THINK THE ISSUE IS MR. CARLSON SAY WE GET IT LATE AND WE
09:17:55AM HAVE A LOT TO RESEARCH BEFORE A THURSDAY MORNING COUNCIL
09:17:58AM MEETING INSTEAD OF GETTING IT WEDNESDAY AND LATE NIGHT.
09:18:01AM I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE TIME FRAME IS BECAUSE MORE TIME.
09:18:04AM NOT TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE GENERAL AGENDA.
09:18:06AM IF WE KNOW IT IS A BIG HEALTHY ITEM, SHOULD BE A COUPLE OF
09:18:10AM WEEKS IN ADVANCE TO REVIEW THE MATERIALS.
09:18:12AM MIGHT BE SOMETHING DURING THAT PERIOD THAT WE NEED TO LOOK
09:18:15AM IF THE TIME NEEDS TO BE MOVED BACK SO STAFF CAN HAVE
09:18:19AM ADEQUATE TIME TO PREPARE FOR THIS COUNCIL TO GET US
09:18:23AM MATERIALS AND WE CAN UNDERSTAND AND MAKE A BASE DECISION FOR
09:18:27AM THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
09:18:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
09:18:31AM FOR INSTANCE, A POWERPOINT THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU.
09:18:34AM IF YOU HAVE THAT POWERPOINT IN ADVANCE, YOU WILL AT LEAST
09:18:38AM HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF DECISION POINTS YOU WILL HAVE
09:18:41AM TO MAKE RATHER THAN DO IT HEARING THE PRESENTATION FOR THE
09:18:44AM FIRST TIME AT A WORKSHOP AND GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK
09:18:47AM QUESTIONS OF STAFF PRIOR TO A WORKSHOP TO MAYBE EXPEDITE THE
09:18:52AM WORKSHOP ITSELF.
09:18:53AM SO THANK YOU.
09:18:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:18:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CAN GET AN
09:18:58AM AGREEMENT ON A GENERAL STATEMENT ON A NEW POLICY.
09:19:01AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK STAFF TO -- TO
09:19:06AM AUTOMATICALLY REQUEST A CONTINUANCE IF THEY ARE NOT READY TO
09:19:10AM UPLOAD THE DOCUMENTS BY THE DEADLINE ON -- THAT WAS JUST --
09:19:15AM THAT WAS CITED IN THE RULES -- WAS IT THURSDAY OR FRIDAY?
09:19:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE RULE -- THIS RULE HAS NOT BEEN VERY
09:19:22AM STRICTLY ENFORCED FOR THURSDAY, BUT NORMALLY --
09:19:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT DOES THE DEADLINE SAY?
09:19:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN YOUR CURRENT RULES 2 P.M., ON THE
09:19:33AM THURSDAY PRIOR TO THE WEEK OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:19:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: MAKE A MOTION AND A GENERAL STATEMENT THAT
09:19:38AM STAFF WILL AUTOMATICALLY ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE IF UNABLE TO
09:19:43AM UPLOAD BY THURSDAY AT 2:00 FOLLOWING CITY COUNCIL'S RULES.
09:19:47AM AND THAT DOCUMENTS WOULD BE ADDED AS AN EXEMPTION WITH
09:19:52AM CONSENT OF COUNSEL IN AGENDA SETTING.
09:19:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T MEAN TO BELABOR THIS BECAUSE I DON'T
09:20:09AM WANT TO.
09:20:09AM AND WE ARE HAVING A LONG AGENDA IN FRONT OF US AND HAVING A
09:20:12AM DISCUSSION NOW AT THE BEGINNING WHEN WE COULD BE DOING THAT
09:20:14AM LATER.
09:20:15AM YOU DO HAVE A SECOND ON YOUR MOTION.
09:20:16AM AND I AM GOING TO TELL YOU THAT I AM GOING TO VOTE NO ON
09:20:19AM THIS.
09:20:19AM BECAUSE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE IT CAN'T BE PREPARED
09:20:23AM THAT QUICKLY THAT WE HAVE TIME SENSITIVE THINGS THAT NEED TO
09:20:25AM BE DONE IMMEDIATELY.
09:20:26AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION?
09:20:31AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:20:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF -- IF YOU MIGHT CONSIDER CHANGING THAT TO
09:20:39AM A DISCUSSION ON OCTOBER 20 WHEN -- WHEN WE ARE GOING TO BE
09:20:43AM DISCUSSING THESE OTHER ISSUES ABOUT CLEANING UP THE AGENDA
09:20:49AM AND MAKING THINGS A LITTLE CLEARER.
09:20:53AM THIS -- THAT IS WHEN MY MOTION FOR THE BUDGET ITEMS TO
09:20:59AM INCLUDE A ONE-PAGE REPORT IN SIRE AND, LIKE, TIGHTENING
09:21:03AM THINGS UP IF WE CAN MOVE IT TO THAT DAY TO DISCUSS.
09:21:07AM BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE TIME TO THINK OF HOW I --
09:21:11AM BECAUSE THINK THURSDAY 2 P.M. IS A LITTLE TOO EARLY, BUT I
09:21:15AM AGREE WITH YOU, MONDAY AT NOON.
09:21:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
09:21:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:21:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: TO THE POINT WE WILL HAVE TODAY.
09:21:24AM A PRESENTATION OF $7 MILLION AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THE BACK-UP
09:21:29AM AND THE PUBLIC HAVEN'T SEEN THE BACK-UP.
09:21:31AM AN EXAMPLE OF MAYBE ONE OF 20.
09:21:34AM TO DO THE WORK WE NEED TO DO, WE NEED TO READ THE DOCUMENTS
09:21:37AM IN ADVANCE.
09:21:38AM I WILL WITHDRAW MY OTHER MOTION AND MAKE A MOTION TO PUT
09:21:41AM SPECIFICALLY ON THE AGENDA OCTOBER 20, THE DISCUSSION ON
09:21:45AM MEETING DEADLINES TO PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY OF INFORMATION TO
09:21:51AM THE PUBLIC PRIOR TO OUR MEETINGS.
09:21:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
09:21:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:21:59AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:22:00AM ALL IN FAVOR?
09:22:03AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:22:08AM COUNSELOR SHELBY.
09:22:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
09:22:10AM JUST AS A REMINDER, COUNCIL, WITH ITEMS THAT ARE TIME
09:22:13AM SENSITIVE, THE ADMINISTRATION BRINGS TO YOUR ATTENTION
09:22:16AM THINGS THAT REQUIRE A WALK-ON, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC
09:22:20AM HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE THERE, AND
09:22:23AM CERTAINLY HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY OF COUNCIL KNOWING IN
09:22:27AM ADVANCE SO PREPARE TO ASK QUESTION AND TRANSPARENCY AND THE
09:22:32AM SUNSHINE LAW -- THE SPIRIT OF THE SUNSHINE LAW, JUST SO YOU
09:22:35AM KNOW, ABSENT, EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES, A MOTION TO CONTINUE IS
09:22:41AM ALWAYS IN ORDER.
09:22:42AM REGARDING WHAT COUNCIL FEELS IT NEEDS TO KNOW BEFORE IT
09:22:46AM MAKES ITS DECISION.
09:22:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:22:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU HEAR THE WORD WALK-ON.
09:22:55AM WHAT IS THE EMERGENCY.
09:22:57AM YOU HAVE ONE IN ONE DAY, NONE IN TWO WEEKS AND TEN IN ONE
09:23:02AM DAY.
09:23:02AM WHO IS GOING TO DETERMINE WHAT IS THE WALK-ON NECESSITY TO
09:23:05AM HAVE OR NOT TO HAVE.
09:23:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. ROGERO.
09:23:11AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
09:23:12AM WE WON'T SOLVE THIS TODAY, BUT SOME THAT THE COUNCIL MAY
09:23:16AM CONSIDER IS THAT BACK-UP ITEMS IS SURFACED AFTER THE AGENDA
09:23:21AM IS SUBMITTED AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL BRIEFS AND YOU MAY
09:23:24AM DETERMINE THE TIME FRAMES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
09:23:27AM THE AGENDA ITSELF HAS COME ON.
09:23:30AM BUT QUESTIONS SURFACE FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND ITEMS.
09:23:33AM THANK YOU.
09:23:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MASSEY OR MISS TRAVIS, DID YOU WANT TO
09:23:38AM SAY ANYTHING?
09:23:40AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK TO MR. ROGERO'S POINT, A LOT OF THE
09:23:45AM LAST MINUTE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE ARE IN RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS
09:23:47AM OR REQUEST FROM COUNCIL FOR SPECIFIC RESOLUTIONS OR ITEMS
09:23:51AM YOU WANT TO SEE ON A FAIRLY QUICK BASIS.
09:23:53AM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SURFACED AS WELL, BUT WE CAN
09:23:57AM TALK ABOUT THIS IN MORE DETAILS ON THE 20th.
09:24:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS TRAVIS, LAST WORD.
09:24:04AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:24:06AM FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
09:24:06AM SEVEN DAYS ,MOST OF US WERE SLEEPING ON COTS IN THE EOC
09:24:12AM AND BRING AN AGENDA AND TURN IT AROUND AND WORKING THROUGH
09:24:15AM SIRE WHILE DEALING WITH HURRICANE IAN AND PREPARING FOR
09:24:18AM THAT, I AM ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FROM A STAFFING
09:24:21AM DIDN'T NOT JUST ADMINISTRATOR BUT THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND ALL
09:24:24AM THE STAFF THAT WORK BEHIND US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THESE
09:24:27AM ITEMS TO YOU IN A THOUGHTFUL WAY.
09:24:30AM AND ALSO WHEN YOU MAKE REQUESTS OF STAFF AND MOTIONS AT A
09:24:33AM PREVIOUS MEETING FOR US TO RESPOND TO IT AT THE VERY NEXT
09:24:37AM MEETING.
09:24:37AM THOSE KIND OF ITEMS CAUSE FOR US SUBMITTING THINGS AT THE
09:24:41AM LAST MINUTE.
09:24:41AM BUT I WANT TO ENSURE YOU THAT WE ARE ALL OPERATING ON A
09:24:45AM TRANSPARENT BASIS.
09:24:46AM ALMOST SO MUCH SO THAT A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS COME FROM US
09:24:50AM AS BEING AS TRANSPARENT AS YOU CAN.
09:24:54AM I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE.
09:24:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
09:25:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL ALSO STATE AND ECHO THAT COUNCIL AND
09:25:04AM THE CLERK HAD THIS AGREEMENT AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, NO
09:25:09AM ONE WEEK MOTIONS BECAUSE MISS LUCAS, YOU WOULD AGREE, THE
09:25:13AM TURN-AROUND TIME FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS
09:25:17AM DIFFICULT.
09:25:17AM IN DEFENSE OF THE ADMINISTRATION, THE MEMOS YOU ARE GETTING
09:25:22AM TO REDUCE THE STAFF REPORTS IS GETTING MORE EXTENSIVE AND
09:25:25AM PROVIDING MORE INFORMATION AND MUCH MORE EFFORT TO PREPARE
09:25:28AM THAT KIND OF INFORMATION IN ADVANCE.
09:25:30AM AND COUNCIL SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF HOW IT WILL TAKE TO HAVE
09:25:35AM STAFF TURN IT AROUND BEFORE THEY BRING IT BACK TO YOU IN A
09:25:39AM TIMELY FASHION TO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED.
09:25:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT.
09:25:44AM THE STAFF REPORTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE JUST THAT, STAFF
09:25:47AM REPORTS, FIVE MINUTES.
09:25:47AM IF WE WANT MORE INFORMATION OR DISCUSSION, TURN THOSE INTO
09:25:52AM WORKSHOPS.
09:25:53AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:25:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN AGREE WITH SOME OF THAT.
09:25:56AM I CAN AGREE WITH SOME OF THAT.
09:25:58AM EVERYTHING IS NOT A WORKSHOP ITEM.
09:26:00AM EVERYTHING IS NOT A WORKSHOP ITEM.
09:26:01AM SOME THINGS CAN BE DISCUSSED AND OUT OF THE WAY INSTEAD OF
09:26:04AM KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD, BUT I DO AGREE IF THERE ARE HOT,
09:26:08AM HEAVY ITEMS OR STAFF KNOWS OF A HOT, HEAVY ITEM.
09:26:12AM STAFF WILL TELL US THAT IS HOT, HEAVY ITEM AND DELAYED
09:26:16AM BEFORE YOU PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
09:26:18AM WHY PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA IF IT IS NOT READY OR DON'T
09:26:21AM HAVE THE BACK-UP MATERIALS.
09:26:22AM WHY PUT IT ON THERE?
09:26:24AM HOLD BACK UNTIL YOU ARE READY.
09:26:26AM DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES WE CAN DEAL WITH.
09:26:29AM IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MATERIALS AND NOT READY AND YOU KNOW
09:26:32AM THIS COUNCIL WILL ASK A BARRAGE OF QUESTIONS.
09:26:34AM WHY PUT YOURSELF THROUGH THAT AND COUNCIL THROUGH THAT.
09:26:37AM DO THE RIGHT THING AND WAIT UNTIL IT IS READY TO GO OR PUT
09:26:40AM YOUR CONTINUANCE AND SAY WE ARE NOT READY TO GO.
09:26:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:26:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITHER GOING INTO A LONG DISCUSSION.
09:26:47AM PLEASE, MR. SHELBY AND THEN FINAL COMMENTS AND I WILL MOVE
09:26:50AM FORWARD.
09:26:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY IS COUNCIL,
09:26:54AM CERTAINLY THIS IS YOUR AGENDA.
09:26:56AM THIS IS YOUR MEETING.
09:26:57AM CERTAINLY THE ADMINISTRATION PLAYS A VERY INTEGRAL ROLE.
09:27:03AM BUT MY POINT IS THIS.
09:27:05AM I THINK IT IS BEST DISCUSSED NOT NOW BUT AT A LATER DATE AND
09:27:10AM WE WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES BECAUSE I WILL BE
09:27:13AM REVISING THE RULES OF PROCEDURES AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
09:27:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AS I HAVE FOUND, WE TEND TO ASK STAFF TO
09:27:20AM COME BACK AND GIVE US A REPORT AND DO IT IN A WEEK OR TWO
09:27:25AM WEEKS.
09:27:27AM WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ON HOW MANY AGENDA ITEMS -- OCTOBER
09:27:34AM 20, 18 STAFF REPORTS.
09:27:35AM WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AND ALLOW STAFF ENOUGH TIME TO PREPARE
09:27:43AM THEIR REPORTS TO US SO THAT WE AND, OF COURSE, THE RESIDENTS
09:27:48AM HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT IS NECESSARY.
09:27:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
09:27:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THE ADDENDUM?
09:27:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THE ADDENDUM.
09:27:58AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:27:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:28:00AM EXCELLENT.
09:28:03AM MR. VIERA.
09:28:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:28:05AM THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
09:28:24AM I APPRECIATE IT.
09:28:25AM I HAVE WITH ME MY GOOD FRIEND MR. TRAVIS COY WHO IS HERE TO
09:28:29AM SPEAK ON BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH BECAUSE OF HIS LATE
09:28:33AM WIFE, THERESA JEAN-PIERRE COY.
09:28:36AM AND MR. SULLIVAN, IF YOU CAN PUT SOME PICTURES UP THERE WE
09:28:40AM HAD OF THERESA, SIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE
09:28:44AM THIS WONDERFUL, BEAUTIFUL WOMAN WHO WAS TAKEN FROM US TOO
09:28:48AM SOON.
09:28:49AM TRAVIS WHO WILL BE SPEAKING IS AN ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY
09:28:53AM HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
09:28:53AM WAS ADMITTED TO THE FLORIDA BAR IN 2003.
09:28:57AM PAST PRESIDENT OF GEORGE EDGECOMB BAR ASSOCIATION AND
09:29:01AM HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL OF THE GEORGE EDGECOMB SCHOLARSHIP.
09:29:06AM WENT TO FSU AND STETSON COLLEGE OF LAW AND WILL BE SPEAKING
09:29:11AM OF HIS LATE WIFE, THERESA JEAN-PIERRE COY, THAT I KNOW
09:29:15AM COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS KIND ENOUGH TO GIVE A COMMENDATION FOR
09:29:18AM AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT VERY MUCH SO.
09:29:19AM THERESA WAS A VERY GOOD WOMAN WHO I KNEW.
09:29:23AM IN FACT I THOUGHT SO HIGHLY OF HER I REMEMBER SOME TIME AGO
09:29:27AM I ASKED HER TO CONSIDER JOINING US ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
09:29:30AM UNTIL I FOUND OUT SHE DIDN'T LIVE IN THE CITY.
09:29:32AM THAT IS HOW MUCH I LOVED HER.
09:29:34AM SO TRAVIS, COME ON UP, BUDDY.
09:29:36AM >> THANK YOU.
09:29:37AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:29:47AM GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
09:29:49AM I WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO FAMILY AND FRIENDS THAT
09:29:53AM ARE PRESENT WITH US, PHYSICALLY AND ALSO THAT ARE WATCHING
09:29:56AM VIRTUALLY.
09:29:58AM AND A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN GUDES, I APPRECIATE
09:30:02AM THE COMMENDATION THAT YOU IT PRESENTED MUCH EARLIER THIS
09:30:06AM YEAR.
09:30:07AM AND ALSO A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR
09:30:10AM ALLOWING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL AS IT
09:30:14AM RELATES TO MY WIFE AND ALSO AS IT RELATES TO BREAST CANCER
09:30:19AM AWARENESS.
09:30:19AM THERESA SHOWED US DURING THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF HER LIFE
09:30:24AM THAT CANCER DOESN'T DEFINE WHO YOU ARE.
09:30:26AM CANCER IS WHAT SHE HAD, BUT IT WASN'T WHO SHE WAS.
09:30:31AM SHE LIVED HER LIFE TO THE FULLEST WITHOUT REGRETS AND ALWAYS
09:30:35AM FOUND OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE OTHERS.
09:30:37AM THERESA CONTINUED TO ADVOCATE FOR THOSE WHO HAD NO VOICE.
09:30:43AM SHE CONTINUED TO POUR HER TIME, HER ENERGY AND EXPERTISE
09:30:48AM INTO OUR COMMUNITIES.
09:30:50AM THERESA CONTINUED TO LOVE AND SUPPORT HER FAMILY, HER
09:30:54AM FRIENDS, REMEMBER COLLEAGUES AND HER MENTEES.
09:30:59AM SHE NEVER STOPPED LAUGHING.
09:31:01AM SHE NEVER STOPPED SMILING.
09:31:04AM AND SHE DEFINITELY DIDN'T STOP BEING SASSY.
09:31:07AM EVEN IN HER PAIN, IN HER DISCOMFORT, SHE ALWAYS FOUND TIME
09:31:13AM TO LIFT UP OTHERS, TO ENCOURAGE OTHERS.
09:31:16AM SHE HAD A LEGITIMATE EXCUSE TO ESSENTIALLY GIVE UP ON LIFE
09:31:22AM BUT INSTEAD THE FIGHTING SPIRIT IN HER AROSE TO THE OCCASION
09:31:26AM TIME AFTER TIME.
09:31:27AM SO WHEN YOU ASK WHAT DOES BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH MEAN
09:31:31AM TO ME?
09:31:32AM WHAT IS MEANT TO THERESA?
09:31:35AM THE ANSWER IS TWOFOLD.
09:31:36AM FIRST, IT MEANS TO KEEP FIGHTING AND TO FIGHT SOME MORE.
09:31:40AM BECAUSE AS SOON AS YOU STOP LIVING, AS SOON AS YOU STOP
09:31:44AM ENJOYING LIFE, THAT IS WHEN THIS HORRIBLE DISEASE HAS
09:31:47AM ALREADY WON.
09:31:47AM THEN THE OTHER PART OF THAT ANSWER IS SIMPLE.
09:31:53AM IT IS A CALL TO ACTION.
09:31:54AM DON'T GET ME WRONG, NOTHING WRONG WITH WEARING A PINK RIBBON
09:31:59AM BUT WAY MORE TO BE DONE.
09:32:00AM THERESA UNDERSTOOD THAT AND MADE A POINT TO EDUCATE AND
09:32:07AM BRING AWARENESS TO THIS TERRIBLE DISEASE ANY TIME SHE HAD A
09:32:10AM CHANCE.
09:32:10AM AND AS COUNCILMAN VIERA JUST MENTIONED, I REMEMBER SHE WAS
09:32:14AM IN FRONT OF YOU ALL LAST YEAR DISCUSSING THE DISPARITIES
09:32:18AM AMONG BLACK WOMEN AND BREAST CANCER.
09:32:21AM SHE LEFT A LEGACY OF SERVITUDE THAT I NOW FIND MYSELF
09:32:25AM CARRYING.
09:32:26AM I NEVER IMAGINE MANY YEARS THAT I WOULD BE A WIDOW AND A
09:32:30AM SINGLE PARENT AT THE AGE OF 45 YEARS.
09:32:34AM I NEVER IMAGINED LOSING MY BEST FRIEND AND THE LOVE OF MY
09:32:38AM LIFE JUST AT THE AGE OF 41.
09:32:40AM I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE TO TELL A FIVE-YEAR-OLD THAT
09:32:46AM HIS MOTHER IS NO LONGER HERE.
09:32:48AM I NEVER CONSIDERED HAVING TO TELL A FIVE-YEAR-OLD THAT THE
09:32:51AM WOMAN WHO KISSED AND CUDDLED HIM AT NIGHT IS GONE.
09:32:56AM SHE WON'T BE BE THERE FOR ANY GRADUATION.
09:32:59AM SHE WON'T BE THERE FOR HIS WEDDING.
09:33:01AM AND SHE WON'T EXPERIENCE WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE A
09:33:05AM GRANDPARENT.
09:33:05AM MY LIFE'S GOAL HAS NOW TURNED TO HELP PREVENT PEOPLE FROM
09:33:11AM SUFFERING FROM SUCH A LOSS THAT WE HAVE.
09:33:13AM THAT IS WHY I DEDICATED MY LIFE TO HELP PROMOTE AND FUND
09:33:18AM BREAST CANCER RESEARCH.
09:33:18AM GIVING TO BREAST CANCER RESEARCH GOES BEYOND FINDING A CURE.
09:33:22AM IT PROVIDES SUPPORT TO THE CAREGIVERS WHO ARE OFTEN
09:33:25AM OVERLOOKED.
09:33:26AM THEY NEED EMOTIONAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL SUPPORT AS WELL.
09:33:30AM IT PROVIDES FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR PATIENTS WHO CAN'T RETURN
09:33:34AM TO WORK OR DON'T HAVE A DISABILITY POLICY.
09:33:37AM IT SUPPORTS FUNDING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH
09:33:41AM THE RACIAL DISPARITY.
09:33:48AM AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN HAVE A 31% BREAST CANCER MORTALITY
09:33:53AM RATE, THE HIGHEST OF ANY U.S. RACIAL OR ETHNIC GROUP.
09:33:59AM THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE EXAMPLES OF THE IMPACT A
09:34:02AM PERSON'S DOLLARS, A PERSON'S MONIES CAN HAVE ON THE
09:34:06AM ERADICATION OF THIS DISEASE.
09:34:08AM SO MY PRAYER THIS MONTH AND THE MONTHS TO FOLLOW IS THAT ONE
09:34:13AM DAY MY SON, THADDEUS COY WILL LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE THIS
09:34:18AM DISEASE THAT TOOK HIS MOTHER NO LONGER EXISTS.
09:34:20AM BUT TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, WE MUST BE WILLING TO ACTUALLY TAKE
09:34:25AM ACTION AND NOT SPEAK ABOUT THAT ACTION.
09:34:26AM THANK YOU.
09:34:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:34:30AM [APPLAUSE]
09:34:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
09:34:38AM AND IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I NEGLECTED FIRST -- I WANTED TO
09:34:42AM INTRODUCE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TO SUPPORT TRAVIS AND THE
09:34:45AM LATER ROW IS A.
09:34:46AM THEY INCLUDE SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ ACTING INDIVIDUALLY,
09:34:55AM CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE, WE HAVE VIEWING THE INTERNET,
09:34:59AM THERESA'S FATHER, ERNEST JEAN PIERRE AND HER
09:35:08AM STEPFATHER ERNEST THOMAS AND.
09:35:11AM ANYA K. FRANCIS AND SONJA HILL WHO ARE HERE.
09:35:16AM I WANTED TO MENTION THOSE NAMES.
09:35:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:35:26AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.
09:35:28AM I TRULY BELIEVE THAT.
09:35:29AM WORDS MEAN A LOT.
09:35:31AM AND I BELIEVE PEOPLE HAVE HEARD YOUR WORDS THIS MORNING.
09:35:34AM WHEN I MADE THAT COMMENDATION, MY BESTIE, MY BEST FRIEND IN
09:35:43AM THE WORLD CALLED ME AND SAID YOU BETTER DO SOMETHING.
09:35:50AM NO MORE SUNDAY DINNER FOR YOU.
09:35:52AM SO I HAD TO MAKE SURE MISS DEIDRE UNDERSTOOD BECAUSE I FELT
09:35:57AM HER PAIN, BECAUSE SHE FELT THE PAIN.
09:35:59AM I REMEMBER THE NIGHTS UP LATE WORKING ON THE LINE.
09:36:04AM THE POWERFUL LINE.
09:36:07AM NUMBER 33 OR 34.
09:36:12AM I KNOW WHAT THAT LINE -- WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH AND I
09:36:14AM KNEW WHAT THEY HAD.
09:36:16AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, TUESDAY -- THEY HAD THEIR ANNIVERSARY
09:36:19AM ON TUESDAY.
09:36:20AM GOT THAT CALL.
09:36:20AM I WANT TO SAY WE ARE WITH YOU.
09:36:22AM WE STAND WITH YOU.
09:36:23AM HER SISTERS MISS HER.
09:36:25AM EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW IT IS TO BE IN A BOND WHEN YOU ARE IN
09:36:28AM THE LATE NIGHTS AND DOING THAT WORK CROSSING THOSE BURNING
09:36:34AM SANDS.
09:36:34AM YOU MISS YOUR PEOPLE.
09:36:35AM SO I SAY THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SHARE WITH US.
09:36:39AM I SAY THANK YOU.
09:36:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:36:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR, FOR BEING HERE
09:36:47AM AND HONORING HER MEMORY AND THE WORDS AND THE MESSAGE
09:36:50AM THAT YOU SHARED WITH EVERYONE TODAY.
09:36:55AM YOU SAID IT.
09:36:56AM YOU HOPE THAT YOUR SON ONE DAY LIVES IN A WORLD WHERE THAT
09:37:01AM WORD "CANCER" IS ERADICATED.
09:37:07AM EFFECTS SO MANY PEOPLE.
09:37:09AM I HAD A CALL FROM A FRIEND OF MINE WHOSE SPOUSE WANTS TO
09:37:13AM VISIT ME AND SAY GOODBYE BECAUSE SHE IS IN HER LAST DAYS.
09:37:16AM YESTERDAY, I TALKED TO MY FRIEND, JOE, WHOSE BROTHER HAS TWO
09:37:19AM MONTHS TO LIVE AND HE IS 52, 53.
09:37:21AM YESTERDAY, I SAW A FRIEND OF MINE WHO IS A NURSE -- I KNOWN
09:37:25AM HER ALL MY LIFE, LITERALLY SINCE I WAS BORN.
09:37:27AM SHE SAID I HAVE A ROUGH WEEK BECAUSE I WAS WITH A PATIENT 14
09:37:32AM WITH OVARIAN CANCER THAT HAS METASTASIZED.
09:37:37AM 14 YEARS OLD.
09:37:39AM AND IT IS EXHAUSTING WHEN IT IS ONE AFTER ANOTHER A AFTER
09:37:43AM ANOTHER.
09:37:43AM SO I -- I CAN'T FOLLOW WHAT YOU SAID TODAY BECAUSE THE WORDS
09:37:50AM WERE SO POWERFUL.
09:37:52AM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND WE WILL ALWAYS HONOR YOUR WIFE
09:37:55AM AND REMEMBER HER.
09:37:56AM THANK YOU, SIR.
09:37:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:37:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, I SAW THE TEAR IN YOUR EYE
09:38:02AM LIKE YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW.
09:38:03AM AND I SHARE THAT TEAR.
09:38:04AM I SHARE THAT TEAR BECAUSE MY WIFE PASSED AWAY IN DECEMBER
09:38:09AM 13, '09 FROM LUNG CANCER.
09:38:11AM AND I KNOW, BROTHER, WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH.
09:38:14AM THANK YOU.
09:38:15AM >> THANK YOU.
09:38:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:38:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I REALLY DO WANT TO APPRECIATE -- SAY THANK
09:38:24AM YOU FOR COMING AND BRINGING THIS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT ISSUE
09:38:29AM TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION AGAIN.
09:38:31AM AND JUST TAKE THE TIME TO ALSO MENTION THAT NOT ONLY CAN WE
09:38:36AM HELP MONETARILY AND THROUGH FUNDS, BUT IN REMINDING WOMEN
09:38:42AM THAT BREAST SELF-EXAMS ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
09:38:47AM IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO ONE, JUST GOOGLE IT.
09:38:50AM THERE IS A TON OF THINGS ONLINE
09:38:55AM JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU KEEP YOUR MAMMOGRAM APPOINTMENTS.
09:39:00AM THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
09:39:01AM THEY ARE NOT FUN.
09:39:02AM I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
09:39:03AM BUT THEY ARE VERY CRITICAL AND TO TAKE TIME TO REMIND THOSE
09:39:09AM IN THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE LISTENING JUST ANOTHER WAY TO
09:39:13AM HELP.
09:39:13AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS TODAY.
09:39:15AM I AM SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.
09:39:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:39:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: USUALLY AFTER SOMEONE SPEAKS WE JUMP TO THE
09:39:22AM MICROPHONE AND SPEAK QUICKLY AND YOU SAW US HESITATE BECAUSE
09:39:27AM WE FELT WHAT YOU SAID SO CLOSE.
09:39:29AM AND YOUR WORDS WERE SO PERFECT AND IMPOSSIBLE TO FOLLOW YOU.
09:39:32AM THANK YOU FOR HONORING THERESA AND TALKING OF THIS IMPORTANT
09:39:35AM TOPIC.
09:39:37AM PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT WE -- THAT WE HAVE THE INFORMATION WE
09:39:40AM NEED TO MAKE SURE WE BROADCAST IT.
09:39:42AM WE ALL HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS AND OTHERS.
09:39:44AM WHATEVER WE CAN TO DO SUPPORT.
09:39:45AM I DON'T THINK YOUR SON IS HERE TODAY, BUT IF -- NOW -- NOW
09:39:49AM WE NEED THE VILLAGE TO HELP YOU RAISE HIM.
09:39:51AM AND SO LET US KNOW IN -- PERSONALLY IN AS A GROUP WE CAN DO
09:39:58AM SOMETHING TO HELP KEEP HIS MOTHER'S NAME ALIVE AND INSPIRE
09:40:01AM HIM TO DO GREAT THINGS.
09:40:02AM THANK YOU.
09:40:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SHE IS SMILING DOWN ON YOU RIGHT NOW.
09:40:08AM OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU.
09:40:11AM THANK YOU, BROTHER.
09:40:12AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:40:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING MY COLLEAGUES ON THE TAMPA
09:40:57AM CITY COUNCIL.
09:40:57AM THIS IS MY FRIEND ROBIN BETHUNE.
09:41:00AM WE MET NOT TOO LONG AGO BECAUSE WE WERE CONTACTED TO -- AS
09:41:08AM YOU KNOW, CITY HALL WILL LIGHT UP IN DIFFERENT COLORS FOR
09:41:11AM DIFFERENT REASONS AND DIFFERENT OCCASIONS AND THIS WAS TO
09:41:16AM HAVE CITY HALL LIT UP AND OTHER STRUCTURES FOR METASTATIC
09:41:21AM BREAST CANCER AWARENESS.
09:41:22AM AND ROBIN IS A MOTHER TO ERIKA GRIFFITHS WHO PASSED AWAY
09:41:28AM AFTER A LONG AND COURAGEOUS BATTLE.
09:41:30AM SHE HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY TO RAISE FUNDS TO BRING AWARENESS
09:41:35AM TO KEEP ERICA'S MEMORY AND SPIRIT ALIVE EVERY TIME WE SPOKE
09:41:41AM HER NAME AND EVERY TIME HER MOTHER SPEAKS HER NAME, SHE IS
09:41:45AM ALIVE AND CONTINUES TO INSPIRE MANY.
09:41:47AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL'S HONOR TO PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION TO
09:41:53AM ROBIN BETHUNE, MOTHER OF ERICA GRIFFITHS, WHO FOUGHT
09:41:59AM METASTATIC BREAST CANCER.
09:42:01AM HER FIVE-YEAR JOURNEY AND DEVOTION AND ADVOCACY OF THIS
09:42:05AM HORRIFIC DISEASE DID NOT GO UNNOTICED.
09:42:08AM HIGHLIGHTED IN VISUAL AND PRINT MEDIA AS AN ADVOCATE FOR
09:42:13AM FUNDING FOR MBC RESEARCH AND AS WELL BEING AN AVID
09:42:17AM FUNDRAISER.
09:42:18AM ERIKA WAS AND IS AN INSPIRATION FOR SO MANY.
09:42:22AM FORCED TO DEAL WITH END OF LIFE PLANS AND LEAVING BEHIND A
09:42:28AM DEVOTED HUSBAND AND FAMILY.
09:42:29AM WE THANK HER MOTHER ROBIN FOR CONTINUING HER DAUGHTER'S
09:42:33AM LEGACY IN THE NECESSARY AND COURAGEOUS AND NECESSARY FIGHT
09:42:36AM TO ENSURE AWARENESS AND A FIGHT FOR A CURE FOR METASTATIC
09:42:41AM BREAST CANCER.
09:42:41AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL'S PROFOUND PRIVILEGE TO PRESENT THIS
09:42:47AM COMMENDATION ON IN SIXTH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2022.
09:42:50AM [APPLAUSE]
09:42:52AM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
09:42:54AM >> I AM NOT VERY GOOD AT SPEAKING, BUT I PROMISED MY
09:43:00AM DAUGHTER I WOULD CONTINUE THE FIGHT FOR HER.
09:43:02AM SHE WAS DIAGNOSED DE NOVO, WHICH MEANS RIGHT FROM THE
09:43:08AM BEGINNING WITH METASTATIC BREAST CANCER WHICH MEANS IT HAS
09:43:13AM ALREADY LEFT THE BREAST.
09:43:15AM PEOPLE DON'T DIE OF BREAST CANCER.
09:43:18AM THE PINK RIBBONS IS FOR AWARENESS.
09:43:21AM YOU DIE WHEN IT LEAVES YOUR BREAST.
09:43:23AM SHE WAS BREASTFEEDING.
09:43:25AM IMAGINE GETTING THAT PHONE CALL THAT I GOT.
09:43:27AM THEY DID THE MAMMOGRAM AND THE ULTRA SOUND.
09:43:30AM THEY DID THE BIOPSIES AND FOUND OUT IT WAS IN HER LIVER AND
09:43:35AM BONES.
09:43:35AM SHE FOUGHT FOR ALMOST FIVE YEARS, DIFFERENT TREATMENTS,
09:43:38AM CHEMOS, RADIATION.
09:43:39AM IT SPREAD THROUGHOUT HER BODY BY THE END AND SHE LEFT BEHIND
09:43:43AM A SIX-YEAR-OLD LITTLE GIRL.
09:43:46AM SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO BRING ATTENTION TO RIGHT NOW IS THE
09:43:49AM MONTH OF OCTOBER IS DEDICATED TO PINK RIBBONS AND ALMOST AN
09:43:56AM SENSATIONALISM OF SAVE THE TA-TAs AND ALL THE OF
09:44:02AM THAT WHICH IS NOT WHAT PEOPLE WHO TRULY FROM METASTATIC
09:44:06AM CANCER IS THINKING ABOUT.
09:44:07AM THEY ARE TRYING TO SAVE THEIR LIVES.
09:44:08AM KEEP IN MIND, TOO, THAT MEN GET METASTATIC BREAST CANCER AS
09:44:13AM WELL.
09:44:13AM 115 PEOPLE ARE DYING EVERY DAY FROM THIS DISEASE.
09:44:17AM AND PEOPLE AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE WE ARE BUYING THE
09:44:20AM PINK RIBBONS AND COMING TO FIND OUT THAT ONLY 5% OF THAT
09:44:24AM MONEY GOES TO RESEARCH.
09:44:25AM SO LIKE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WITH THERESA WHO PASSED
09:44:30AM AWAY I WITH, WE NEED RESEARCH.
09:44:32AM AS I HAVE BEEN SCREAMING FROM THE TOP OF A MOUNTAINTOP AS MY
09:44:36AM DAUGHTER DIED AND DIDN'T THINK ANYBODY WAS LISTENING,
09:44:39AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND HIS ASSISTANT, LISA, DID.
09:44:43AM AND WE LIT UP TAMPA LAST YEAR.
09:44:45AM WE ARE GETTING READY TO LIGHT IT UP AGAIN.
09:44:47AM WE ACTUALLY GOT THE SKYWAY THIS YEAR, BUT A TRANSFORMER
09:44:51AM BLEW, SO APPARENTLY WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT ON TIME.
09:44:54AM BUT THE IDEA AND THE MEANING BEHIND ALL OF THIS, AGAIN, IS
09:44:58AM JUST TO REALIZE THAT WE NEED PEOPLE TO DONATE FOR RESEARCH.
09:45:04AM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR.
09:45:06AM WHEN ERICA WAS GOING THROUGH HER TREATMENTS DURING THAT
09:45:11AM TIME, TWO OR THREE DRUGS THAT CAME ABOUT THAT KEPT HER ALIVE
09:45:15AM A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
09:45:16AM ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
09:45:18AM I AM OVERWHELMED AND VERY, VERY GRATEFUL AND I KNOW MY
09:45:23AM DAUGHTER IS WATCHING DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND I HOPE SHE IS
09:45:26AM PROUD.
09:45:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALSO YOU HAD MENTIONED IT BUT OCTOBER
09:45:30AM 13, WE WILL LIGHT CITY HALL UP.
09:45:31AM >> WE ARE AND ALSO THE AIRPORT.
09:45:34AM WE GOT THE AIRPORT TOO.
09:45:35AM SO THANK YOU.
09:45:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AWARENESS IS SO IMPORTANT AND YOU BEING
09:45:38AM HERE AND THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE YOU TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW,
09:45:42AM YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT PINK RIBBONS,
09:45:46AM EVEN THOUGH IT IS GOOD TO SHOW THE SUPPORT.
09:45:47AM BUT IT IS THE LACK OF FUNDING.
09:45:49AM THE LACK OF AWARENESS.
09:45:50AM THE LACK OF PEOPLE GOING TO GET TESTED.
09:45:53AM TO CATCH THESE -- CATCH THIS EARLY, IF POSSIBLE.
09:45:57AM AND INCREASE THEIR -- THEIR RATIO FOR SUCCESS AND HEALING.
09:46:02AM BUT THANK YOU.
09:46:03AM THANK YOU FOR BEING AN INSPIRATION.
09:46:06AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:46:07AM THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
09:46:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
09:46:10AM [APPLAUSE]
09:46:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS SULING, DO WE HAVE FDOT ON THE LINE?
09:46:26AM WE WILL NOW HAVE AN UPDATE FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
09:46:30AM TRANSPORTATION -- THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
09:46:33AM >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
09:46:36AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
09:46:41AM I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE ED ALBRITON WITH THE FLORIDA
09:46:47AM DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
09:46:48AM ED IS A FRIEND, FORMER COLLEAGUE, WE WORKED TOGETHER AT
09:46:53AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
09:46:53AM ED IS GOING TO PRESENT ON SIGNALIZATION PROJECT AND A COUPLE
09:46:58AM OF OTHER INITIATIVES BY FDOT, SPECIFICALLY AT 22nd AND THE
09:47:05AM SELMON EXPRESSWAY.
09:47:06AM THIS IS A HAZARD.
09:47:09AM THIS IS -- THE SIGNALIZATION WILL IMPROVE SAFETY IN THE
09:47:13AM AREA.
09:47:13AM IT WILL ALSO IMPROVE ACCESS FOR ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT
09:47:20AM IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE YBOR CITY AREA FROM A SAFETY AND
09:47:24AM MOBILITY DIDN'T.
09:47:26AM AT THIS TIME, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO ED.
09:47:28AM ED, TAKE IT AWAY.
09:47:30AM >> THANKS, VIK.
09:47:33AM SO I WILL GET RIGHT INTO THIS.
09:47:38AM I DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME.
09:47:39AM THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTO OF THE AREA WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED SOME
09:47:47AM OF THE SORT OF TRIP GENERATION AREAS OF INTEREST THAT WE
09:47:49AM FEEL ARE IMPORTANT TO MAKE THIS PROJECT IMPORTANT.
09:47:53AM THE FIRST IS TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROJECT IS THE PORT OF
09:47:57AM TAMPA.
09:47:57AM WE HAVE SOME JOINT FUNDING FROM OUR PARTNERS TO BRING THIS
09:48:04AM SIGNALIZATION.
09:48:06AM ALSO TO THE WEST AND TO THE NORTH, BOTH IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA
09:48:09AM AND YBOR CITY, BOTH OF THOSE BOTH RETAIL AND HIGH DENSITY
09:48:16AM RESIDENTIAL FOOTPRINTS ARE EXPANDING AND THIS IS ALSO A GOOD
09:48:20AM PROJECT TO MARRY WITH SOME OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
09:48:22AM THIS IS JUST A CLOSER VIEW OF THE INTERCHANGE ITSELF.
09:48:27AM THE STAR IS REPRESENTING WHERE THE ACTUAL SIGNALIZATION IS
09:48:31AM INSTALLED.
09:48:32AM HERE WE HAVE A LOOK AT THE EAST AND WESTBOUND APPROACHES AS
09:48:36AM THEY CURRENTLY EXIST.
09:48:38AM THEY ARE BOTH STOP CONTROL.
09:48:40AM SIGNAL MET AND CRASH HISTORY WARRANT INSTALLATION AND THESE
09:48:46AM APPROACHES GAVE US A TOTAL OF 39 LEFT-TURN CRASHES, 22 WITH
09:48:50AM POSSIBLE INJURIES AND ONE FATALITY.
09:48:52AM HERE IS THE CURRENT NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND APPROACHES AND
09:48:56AM THEY HAD A TOTAL OF 23 LEFT-TURN CRASHES AND 13 POSSIBLE
09:49:00AM INJURIES.
09:49:00AM THE STUDY YEARS BY THE WAY WERE 2014 TO 2019.
09:49:05AM SOME OF THE PROJECT DETAILS AND ITEMS WE FEEL LIKE WE WILL
09:49:11AM REALLY IMPROVE.
09:49:11AM THERE IS CURRENTLY A SHARED USE PATH ON THE EAST SIDE OF
09:49:15AM 22nd STREET THAT WILL ADD A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING TO AND JOIN
09:49:20AM INTO THAT.
09:49:20AM THERE IS AT-GRADE CSX RAIL CROSSING TO THE SOUTH OF THE
09:49:25AM INTERCHANGE AND THIS WILL BE INTEGRATED WITH THE SIGNAL.
09:49:28AM THAT WILL BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT.
09:49:30AM TRAFFIC MOVEMENT THROUGH THE AREA AS IT PERTAINS TO RAIL
09:49:35AM CROSSINGS.
09:49:35AM THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT TYPES OF MEDIAN TREATMENTS THROUGH
09:49:39AM THIS SEGMENT AND WE WILL GET THAT CONSISTENTLY CLEANED UP
09:49:42AM AND HOPEFULLY TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE AMBIGUITY THAT IS
09:49:46AM CURRENTLY OUT THERE.
09:49:47AM CURRENTLY NO PEDESTRIAN FEATURES AT ALL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF
09:49:51AM THE INTERCHANGE AND OBVIOUSLY WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THAT
09:49:54AM WITH THIS DESIGN.
09:49:55AM CROSSWALKS, LIGHTING, ALL THAT.
09:50:00AM A QUICK AND DIRTY RENDITION OF WHAT THE DESIGN IS GOING TO
09:50:03AM LOOK LIKE.
09:50:04AM SHOWS THE SPECIAL EMPHASIS CROSSWALKS.
09:50:08AM LIGHTING GOING TO BE UPGRADED.
09:50:10AM SHOWS AT-GRADE CROSSING AS WELL.
09:50:13AM AND PROTECTED LEFT TURNS ON TO THE CROSSTOWN.
09:50:17AM THE NORTH INTERCHANGE INTERSECTION.
09:50:19AM YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE DESIGNED A CROSSING WHICH WE FEEL REALLY
09:50:24AM IMPROVES THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY THROUGH THIS SEGMENT AND
09:50:28AM VISIBILITY AND ALSO SEE WHERE WE HAVE JOINED THE HIGH
09:50:32AM EMPHASIS OR SPECIAL EMPHASIS CROSSWALK TO THE PEDESTRIAN
09:50:36AM PATH ON 22nd STREET ON THE EAST SIDE.
09:50:39AM THE COUNTERMEASURES WE ARE DOING, THE PROTECTED LEFT TURNS,
09:50:47AM PROTECTED PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS INCLUDING THE TWO STAGE.
09:50:49AM AND BE FEEL THAT THE MODIFICATION OF THE MEDIAN TREATMENT
09:50:52AM CURRENTLY OUT THERE LIKE I SAID WILL TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE
09:50:55AM AMBIGUITY AND HELP PREVENT THE LIKELIHOOD OF WRONG-WAY
09:51:00AM DRIVING.
09:51:00AM THE DELAWARE SIGN IS COMPLETE ALREADY.
09:51:03AM CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO START IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF
09:51:07AM 2023 MOSTLY DUE TO SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.
09:51:10AM WE ALREADY ANTICIPATED DEALING ON DISCUSSION AND THE LEAD
09:51:14AM TIME FRAME HAS GONE THROUGH THE ROOF.
09:51:16AM SO THAT ONE GOT PUSHED A BIT.
09:51:18AM THE NEXT ONE IS ONE WE HAVE COMPLETED ALREADY A HIGHLAND AND
09:51:24AM CHELSEA.
09:51:25AM AN OVERVIEW OF THE AREA ITSELF TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE
09:51:30AM IT IS AT.
09:51:30AM A CLOSER REVIEW WILL POINT OUT THE PROXIMITY OF THE MIDDLE
09:51:35AM SCHOOL WHICH IS A HUGE DRIVER IN THE NEED FOR THIS PROJECT
09:51:37AM IN THE FIRST PLACE THIS IS THE DESIGN WE INSTALLED OUT
09:51:46AM THERE, HIGH EMPHASIS, SPECIAL EMPHASIS CROSSWALKS.
09:51:52AM BUTTON ACTIVATED RECTANGULAR FLASHING BEACONS TO GET ACROSS
09:51:57AM HIGHLAND.
09:51:59AM AND ALSO WE HAVE SOME ADVANCED DEVICES OF THE SAME TYPE.
09:52:02AM ONCE THE BUTTONS ARE ACTIVATED, THE ADVANCE BEACONS WILL
09:52:09AM ACTIVATE TO GIVE THE VEHICLES ADVANCED NOTIFICATION THAT
09:52:14AM SOMEONE INTENDS TO CROSS THE STREET.
09:52:15AM A VIEW OF THE ACTUAL FINISHED PRODUCT LOOKING FROM ONE OF
09:52:18AM THE CORNERS.
09:52:19AM YOU CAN SEE THE BUTTON-ACTIVATED BEACONS ON THE OPPOSITE
09:52:23AM CORNER WE HAD TO BUILD THE RAMPS.
09:52:27AM AND IMPROVED MARKINGS, TRUNCATED DOMES, SPECIAL EMPHASIS
09:52:32AM CROSSWALKS AND ONCE AGAIN THE BEACONS.
09:52:34AM AND OF COURSE I WANT TO CLOSE WITH A SAFETY MESSAGE.
09:52:40AM STOP SPEEDING BEFORE IT STOPS YOU.
09:52:43AM SLOW DOWN.
09:52:43AM TWO DECADES, SPEED SOMETHING INVOLVED IN OVER ONE-THIRD OF
09:52:48AM MOTOR VEHICLE FATALITIES.
09:52:50AM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
09:52:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:52:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS.
09:52:57AM THE CHELSEA CROSSING IS GREAT.
09:52:59AM I HAVE NOTICED THE IMPROVED PAINTING AND SIGNAGE.
09:53:03AM A VERY NICE ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:53:08AM BUT I ALSO WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE SELMON RAMP.
09:53:13AM I THINK THAT IS A GREAT PROJECT.
09:53:16AM I HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS.
09:53:18AM THE PEDESTRIAN -- THE EAST SIDE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY THAT
09:53:23AM BASICALLY CONNECTS PALMETTO BEACH TO THE REST OF THE CITY.
09:53:27AM THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY WAY A LOT OF THOSE RESIDENTS
09:53:31AM CONNECT.
09:53:31AM I HAVE BIKED THAT MYSELF.
09:53:33AM A, IT IS REALLY HARD TO FIND A WAY TO GET ACROSS THE STREET
09:53:37AM EVEN AT ADAMO.
09:53:40AM IT IS A DIFFICULT CROSSING.
09:53:42AM ONCE YOU GET THERE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE CROSSINGS TO GET ON
09:53:45AM AND OFF THE SELMON THAT AS A PEDESTRIAN OR CYCLIST IS VERY
09:53:51AM DANGEROUS.
09:53:51AM IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE DOING -- YOU ARE WORKING ON A COUPLE
09:53:54AM OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
09:53:55AM ARE YOU ACTUALLY GOING TO TACKLE ALL THE INTERSECTIONS?
09:53:59AM THAT IS ONE QUESTION.
09:54:00AM THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING
09:54:03AM DURING CONSTRUCTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FOLKS WHO USE
09:54:07AM THAT AS THEIR PRIMARY MEANS OF CONNECTING TO THE CITY -- TO
09:54:12AM THE REST OF THE CITY CAN STILL DO THAT.
09:54:14AM >> THE WAY THIS PARTICULAR INTERCHANGE IS BUILT, THERE ARE
09:54:21AM SOME OF THOSE ON RAMPS LIKE THE NORTHBOUND 22nd TO GO
09:54:26AM EASTBOUND ON TO THE CROSSTOWN.
09:54:29AM THAT HAPPENS SOUTH OF THE INTERCHANGE ITSELF.
09:54:32AM SO THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS SIGNALIZATION PROJECT.
09:54:36AM THE OTHER ONES, I BELIEVE, WE ARE COVERING.
09:54:42AM AND I KNOW THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING
09:54:46AM SIGNALIZATION FOR THE ADAMO AND 26 SIGNAL WHICH -- YOU KNOW,
09:54:54AM IF YOU PUT 22nd UP AND OVER, IT WILL GIVE YOU ANOTHER
09:54:58AM CROSSING TO GET ACROSS ADAMO.
09:55:00AM AND I AM NOT SURE OF THE OVERALL TRAIL PLANS.
09:55:04AM I KNOW A TRAIL ON THE NORTH SIDE OF ADAMO, A TRAIL ON 22nd.
09:55:09AM I ASSUME THERE ARE PLANS TO MARRY THOSE UP BUT THAT IS A
09:55:13AM LITTLE OUT OF MY PURVIEW.
09:55:14AM >>VIK BHIDE: IF I MAY ADD TO THAT, ED.
09:55:19AM AND COUNCILWOMAN, I THINK YOU MAKE A GREAT POINT.
09:55:22AM GENERALLY THE PALMETTO AREA IS NOT AS WELL CONNECTED FROM
09:55:26AM MULTIMODAL DIDN'T WITH YBOR OR THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AND
09:55:31AM CERTAINLY DOWNTOWN.
09:55:32AM THESE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE ARE HAVING WITH
09:55:37AM SECRETARY GUINN AND STAKEHOLDERS.
09:55:39AM WE ARE AWARE OF THE YBOR AND PALMETTO COMMUNITIES MAKING THE
09:55:45AM REQUEST TO IMPROVE THE CONDITION.
09:55:46AM SO AT THIS TIME, I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC UPDATE AND
09:55:50AM CERTAINLY RELATIVE TO THIS PROJECT ED MAY NOT, BUT WE WILL
09:55:55AM FOLLOW UP ON THE SAME SOON.
09:55:59AM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO PROVIDING A BRIEFING ON THAT.
09:56:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
09:56:04AM THANK YOU FOR THAT, BUT I -- I KNOW THAT COMMUNITY WILL NEED
09:56:09AM A WAY TO GET THROUGH DURING THAT CONSTRUCTION.
09:56:11AM SO THAT IS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR ME.
09:56:14AM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:56:15AM I WILL DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.
09:56:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:56:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US AND MAKING
09:56:23AM YOUR PRESENTATIONS.
09:56:24AM SOME TIME BACK TALK ABOUT MALFUNCTION JUNCTION WITH ANOTHER
09:56:30AM EXIT TO YBOR CITY BEFORE THE CURVE.
09:56:33AM IS THAT STILL ON?
09:56:34AM I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK?
09:56:37AM >> I HAVE NOT HEARD OF THAT.
09:56:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT TRYING TO THROW YOU A CURVE OR
09:56:43AM ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
09:56:44AM NEVER HAD A GOOD ONE ANYWAY.
09:56:46AM >> WE WILL FOLLOW UP AND GET BACK WITH YOU.
09:56:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO PROBLEM.
09:56:49AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:56:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
09:56:52AM I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS, SIR.
09:56:55AM ON YOUR KENNEDY PROJECT, STATE ROAD 60.
09:56:59AM I AM SEEING BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS.
09:57:02AM WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE RESIDENTIAL BEING BUILT ALONG
09:57:06AM THAT CORRIDOR.
09:57:07AM IS THERE ANY PLANS FOR A DIVIDED BIKE LANE AND MORE LIGHTED
09:57:12AM CROSSINGS?
09:57:16AM >> ONCE AGAIN, I AM NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING THAT ENCOMPASSING,
09:57:22AM ESPECIALLY ON KENNEDY.
09:57:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT AND I AM GOING
09:57:31AM TO SAY THIS.
09:57:32AM IF WE HAVE BIKE LANES AND MORE PEDESTRIANS AND MORE
09:57:36AM RESIDENTIAL IN THERE, THAT SPEED LIMIT IS GOING TO HAVE TO
09:57:38AM DROP.
09:57:39AM SO I WILL GET BACK WITH YOU.
09:57:40AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:57:41AM ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
09:57:44AM THANK YOU, SIR.
09:57:46AM >> YES.
09:57:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
09:57:55AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5.
09:57:56AM A PRESENTATION.
09:57:57AM FOR REAPPOINTMENT.
09:58:09AM SEE, I THOUGHT MISS SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES IS HERE.
09:58:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
09:58:25AM I'M HERE REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 5 REGARDING THE AFFORDABLE
09:58:31AM HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
09:58:33AM MR. SHAWN WILSON SENT US AN E-MAIL SAYING DEAR CITY COUNCIL,
09:58:43AM GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CONSIDERING
09:58:46AM REAPPOINTING ME TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY
09:58:52AM COMMITTEE.
09:58:52AM I WAS CALLED OUT OF MY HOMETOWN ON BUSINESS.
09:58:55AM AND I AM NOT ABLE TO BE PRESENT WITH YOU TODAY.
09:58:58AM I AM VERY INTERESTED IN CONTINUING IN THIS CAPACITY, AND I
09:59:04AM WOULD SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
09:59:07AM AGAIN, THAT IS FROM MR. SHAWN WILSON, WHO IS THE FOUNDER AND
09:59:13AM PRESIDENT OF BLUE SKY COMMUNITIES LCC.
09:59:17AM AND HE IS ASKING FOR REAPPOINTMENT.
09:59:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REAPPOINT.
09:59:21AM >> SECOND.
09:59:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT BY COUNCILMAN
09:59:27AM MANISCALCO.
09:59:27AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:59:29AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
09:59:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:59:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:59:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS FOXX-KNOWLES MADE UP OF MAYOR OR CITY
09:59:41AM COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS TO THAT BOARD?
09:59:43AM >> IT IS A COMBINATION.
09:59:44AM THERE ARE -- PROBABLY HALF AND HALF.
09:59:49AM HE WAS ALL CITY COUNCIL.
09:59:52AM MR. SHAWN WILSON IS CITY COUNCIL.
09:59:53AM AND THERE ARE SOME VACANCIES ON THE BOARD WITH MAYOR,
10:00:01AM COUNCIL ARE OR CITY COUNCIL.
10:00:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:00:04AM PLEASE GIVE ME THOSE UPDATES.
10:00:06AM I WONDER OF THE VACANCY.
10:00:09AM THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO MAY LOOK TO GET ON THAT BOARD.
10:00:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
10:00:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW MANY MESHES ARE THERE.
10:00:15AM 11.
10:00:16AM SIX MINORAL AND FIVE COUNCIL?
10:00:21AM >> 11, YES.
10:00:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE ARE 11.
10:00:24AM INTERESTINGLY, COUNCIL, THE -- THE ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS
10:00:30AM THAT BOARD TO EXIST SAYS THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO SERVE
10:00:36AM AFTER THEIR TERM EXPIRES UNTIL SOMEBODY ELSE IS REAPPOINTED.
10:00:40AM SO THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE -- THEIR TERMS HAVE EXPIRED,
10:00:45AM FOR INSTANCE, MR. WILSON.
10:00:47AM HIS TERM HAS EXPIRED.
10:00:50AM AND NOW HE GETS TO BE REAPPOINTED.
10:00:53AM THE OTHER THING IS, ONLY ALLOWS FOR TWO THREE-YEAR TERMS.
10:00:58AM THE TERM IS THREE YEARS AND THOSE ARE -- I TALKED TO MR.
10:01:01AM MASSEY ABOUT IT -- VERY SPECIFIC CATEGORIES THAT YOU LOOK
10:01:04AM FOR IN ORDER TO FILL THOSE SEATS.
10:01:07AM SO YOU HAVE TO BE VERY SPECIFIC AS IT IS.
10:01:10AM BUT WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS I BELIEVE WORK WITH THE -- WITH
10:01:15AM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF
10:01:19AM THOSE CONCERNS BECAUSE ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE IS HOW
10:01:22AM MUCH TIME HAS ELAPSED SINCE THEIR TERM HAS EXPIRED.
10:01:25AM BUT I WILL ADDRESS THAT WITH THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT.
10:01:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:01:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:01:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:01:36AM SPECIFIC BOARDS -- SOME HAVE SPECIFIC BOARDS AND CATEGORIES.
10:01:40AM BUT WITH THESE BOARDS, YOU NEED TO HAVE REGULAR LAY CITIZENS
10:01:43AM ON SOME OF THESE BOARDS TO GIVE OPINIONS AS WELL.
10:01:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COMES UP BECAUSE
10:01:50AM IT IS SO SPECIFIC AND SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS MAY BE HARD TO
10:01:54AM FILL, YOU MA IT NOT WANT TO HAVE A TERM LIMITATION.
10:01:58AM AND THREE YEARS BEING SHORT, BUT SOMETHING TO AMEND BUT THAT
10:02:03AM COULD BE DOWN THE ROAD WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE DEPARTMENT,
10:02:05AM OF COURSE.
10:02:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILMAN VIERA, MISS
10:02:09AM TRAVIS, YOU LOOK AS IF YOU WISH TO SAY SOMETHING.
10:02:12AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE WILL BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT AND BRING IT
10:02:16AM BACK TO YOU AND MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU.
10:02:18AM WE WOULD APPRECIATE THE REAPPOINTMENT OF MR. WILSON.
10:02:22AM THANK YOU.
10:02:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:02:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF ANYBODY WHO KNOWS MR. WILSON AND PUT WORDS
10:02:28AM OUT THERE.
10:02:29AM HE'S A GOOD DUDE.
10:02:30AM HE IS AMAZING GUY.
10:02:32AM WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MAKING SURE WE BUILD
10:02:36AM HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO GET TO THE MIDDLE
10:02:39AM CLASS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO STAY IN THE
10:02:41AM WORKING-CLASS.
10:02:41AM SHAWN -- MR. WILSON IS AWESOME.
10:02:44AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP HIM ON THE BOARD.
10:02:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: HE IS AWESOME.
10:02:49AM I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AS A WORD THAT HE IS A REALLY GOOD
10:02:52AM GUY.
10:02:53AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
10:02:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
10:02:57AM MANISCALCO AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:02:59AM YOU WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT?
10:03:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GLAD ALL THIS CAME UP BECAUSE LAST
10:03:04AM ELECTION, THE COUNCIL SERVED ONE MONTH MORE, WASN'T IT.
10:03:09AM THE SAME THING.
10:03:10AM SO -- BECAUSE WHATEVER REASON IT WAS --
10:03:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS.
10:03:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MEAN, THAT'S HOW IT IS.
10:03:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:03:22AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:03:24AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:03:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:03:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:03:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:03:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:03:31AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:03:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:03:33AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
10:03:38AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:03:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DIRECTING THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY TO
10:03:42AM PREPARE A RESOLUTION CONSISTENT WITH COUNCIL'S MOTION.
10:03:45AM THANK YOU, IS THAT CORRECT?
10:03:47AM THANK YOU.
10:03:47AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:03:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS SHIRLEY.
10:03:51AM CHIEF BENNETT, ARE YOU WITH US?
10:03:59AM I GUESS HE IS TAKING A SICK DAY.
10:04:01AM CHIEF TRIPP.
10:04:03AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:04:05AM CHIEF TRIPP, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
10:04:10AM I AM NOT CHIEF OF STAFF BUT I WILL FILL IN WHEREVER I CAN.
10:04:13AM I BELIEVE CFO WILL FILL IN AS WELL.
10:04:17AM I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES.
10:04:19AM IF NOT I HAVE THEM THAT I CAN PUT UP.
10:04:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:04:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ASKED BY CHIEF OF STAFF TO GIVE A REPORT ON
10:04:35AM HURRICANE -- AND THEN WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:04:38AM THANK YOU.
10:04:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS THE WAY YOU WISH TO DO IT, MR.
10:04:46AM CHAIR?
10:04:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:04:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITHOUT OBJECTION AND UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
10:04:52AM THAT NORMALLY GOES IN THE STAFF REPORT SECTION BUT THAT'S
10:04:57AM FINE IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
10:05:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, ONCE AGAIN.
10:05:04AM FIRST AND FOREMOST, GIVE MY PRAYERS TO THE COMMUNITY OUT IN
10:05:10AM SOUTH FLORIDA WHO WERE PRESENTED WITH HURRICANE IAN THAT
10:05:13AM PRESENTED A LOT OF DEVASTATION.
10:05:16AM JUST KNOW THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA DEPLOYED SOME PERSONNEL TO
10:05:20AM GO DOWN THERE AND ASSIST WITH SOME RELIEF.
10:05:23AM SENT 41 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND 15 SWORN PERSONNEL AS
10:05:27AM WELL AS ONE MECHANIC.
10:05:28AM AND SO FAR, THEY HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE SATURDAY MORNING.
10:05:31AM THEY HAVE DONE OVER 1,000 911 CALLS TO CLEAR OUT THEIR QUEUE
10:05:38AM ON LOG.
10:05:39AM AND I THINK THEY RESCUED AND AND ASSISTED OVER 1,000
10:05:43AM FAMILIES.
10:05:44AM THE LAST NUMBER I HAVE WHICH IS -- WHICH WAS 900.
10:05:48AM SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK TSA FOR HOSTING A PUBLIC
10:05:54AM SAFETY ASSETS WHEN WE HAD TO EVACUATE SOME OF THE STATIONS,
10:05:58AM AS WELL AS SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT, HELICOPTERS AND STUFF.
10:06:00AM TSA OPENED THEIR DOORS TO ASSIST US WITH THAT.
10:06:04AM SO ONCE AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, TAMPA BAY -- BASICALLY WE WERE
10:06:09AM FORTUNATE TO HAVE EXCELLENT COORDINATION AND COMMUNICATION
10:06:11AM WITH OUR STATE, REGIONAL AND LOCAL AND FEDERAL PARTNERS.
10:06:15AM WE STARTED THIS COMMUNICATION ABOUT TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THIS
10:06:18AM EVENT ONCE WE KNEW THIS STORM WAS KIND OF HEADED THAT WAY.
10:06:22AM AS WE PUT ON THE SCREEN, WE HAVE THE NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS
10:06:27AM GOALLINE OF THINGS WE TRY TO DO.
10:06:29AM WE TRY TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PREVENT.
10:06:31AM WE CAN'T STOP MOTHER NATURE AND THE BIGGEST THING WE CAN DO
10:06:35AM IS PREPARE FOR HER.
10:06:36AM SO IF WE LOOK AT HOW WE ARE GOING TO PREVENT.
10:06:39AM WE DEFINITELY WANT TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES
10:06:45AM SNOB.
10:06:45AM AS FAR AS SOME OF THE THREATS AND THINGS WE DID AS FAR AS
10:06:49AM PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE DIFFERENT SERVICES WEB
10:06:52AM IT COMES TO SANDBAGS AND I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE
10:06:56AM DATA.
10:06:56AM TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MITIGATE ANY KIND OF HAZARDS,
10:06:59AM POTENTIAL HAZARDS.
10:07:00AM JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE ASSISTED WITH
10:07:04AM EVACUATING SOME OF THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES THAT WERE
10:07:08AM IN SOUTH TAMPA TO HIGHER GROUNDS.
10:07:12AM WE EVACUATED 41 CRITICAL PATIENTS UP TO KINDRED NORTH --
10:07:18AM KINDRED CENTRAL, I AM SORRY.
10:07:20AM AND ALSO GRAND COURT.
10:07:21AM WE ASSISTED WITH 31 SENIOR CITIZENS THERE.
10:07:25AM SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE DO -- AND, OF COURSE, WE WANT
10:07:31AM TO CONTINUE TO RESPOND -- TAMPA FIRE RESCUE TO RESPOND TO
10:07:35AM CALLS UNTIL IT WAS UNSAFE FOR US TO RESPOND.
10:07:39AM FORTUNATELY WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE QUEUE THAT HAD US
10:07:44AM NOT TO RESPOND.
10:07:45AM WE WANTED TO RESPOND TO THE COMMUNITIESND HELP PREVENT AND
10:07:48AM PROVIDE AS MUCH SAFETY AS WE CAN.
10:07:50AM WHEN THEY ARE IN NEED, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO RESPOND AND ALL
10:07:54AM ABOUT RECOVERY AND DO IT IN A TIMELY FASHION.
10:07:57AM I WILL GO OVER A TIMELINE OF SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT TOOK
10:08:00AM PLACE.
10:08:01AM ONCE WE -- ONCE TAMPA WAS TARGETED AS FAR AS IN THE CONE, WE
10:08:06AM STARTED WITH COMMUNICATING WITH LOCAL AND COMMUNITY
10:08:08AM PARTNERS.
10:08:09AM WE STARTED HAVING PRESS CONFERENCES.
10:08:11AM THE CITY OF TAMPA WENT TO A LEVEL 2 ON MONDAY AND ACTIVATED
10:08:17AM LEVEL 1 TUESDAY MORNING AT 7:30 AND DID NOT END UNTIL
10:08:22AM THURSDAY EVENING 2800, 8:00 AND WENT BACK TO A LEVEL 3 WHICH
10:08:26AM IS JUST BASICALLY MONITORING.
10:08:28AM THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE TIME WHEN WE WERE OVER THERE, WE HAD
10:08:32AM PRESS CONFERENCES TWICE A DAY TO CONTINUE TO INFORM THE
10:08:35AM COMMUNITY WHAT WAS GOING ON.
10:08:38AM PRIOR TO THAT SOME OF THE THINGS WE DID AS FAR AS HELP
10:08:41AM PREVENTING.
10:08:42AM WE GOT THE INFORMATION OUT ABOUT SANDBAGS.
10:08:44AM WE GOT THE INFORMATION OF MAKING SURE THEY WATCHED THE
10:08:48AM WEATHER REPORTS AND STUFF.
10:08:50AM WE WERE IN DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER
10:08:53AM SERVICE.
10:08:53AM WE HAVE MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
10:08:57AM TWICE A DAY TO GET INFORMATION AND INFORM THE COMMUNITIES
10:08:59AM ON.
10:08:59AM SO IF YOU CAN PUT THE NEXT SLIDE UP.
10:09:01AM THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE.
10:09:07AM BASICALLY I WILL GIVE YOU SOME MORE NUMBERS.
10:09:09AM WE DISTRIBUTED OVER 1,000 -- I AM SORRY, 100,000 SANDBAGS
10:09:14AM OVER A THREE-DAY PERIOD.
10:09:15AM ONCE WE REALIZED THAT THIS WAS COMING AND, OF COURSE,
10:09:19AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY GAVE THE -- THE CLOSING OF THE SCHOOLS
10:09:22AM AND STUFF -- YOU KNOW WE STARTED HELPING FAMILIES, SENIORS
10:09:26AM AND, OF COURSE, OUR VULNERABLE POPULATION.
10:09:30AM WE OPENED UP -- WE INITIALLY OPENED 16 OUT-OF-SCHOOL CAMPS
10:09:38AM WHILE PEOPLE HAD TO WORK UNTIL THEIR JOB CLOSED THEM DOWN.
10:09:41AM WE CLOSED THREE OF THEM THAT WAS IN ZONE A AND B AND OF
10:09:46AM COURSE WE SERVED OVER 300 CHILDREN.
10:09:50AM WITH THAT WE HAD SHELTERS.
10:09:51AM WENT FULL ACTIVATION WITH THE SHELTERS.
10:09:55AM MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL, PIZZO, LOCKHART AND WHARTON HIGH
10:10:02AM SCHOOL.
10:10:02AM THOSE WERE THE ONES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND ACTUALLY
10:10:10AM STAFFED BY CITY OF TAMPA EMPLOYEES AROUND THE CLOCK.
10:10:13AM 1100 GUESTS THROUGHOUT THOSE SHELTERS AND OF COURSE WE WANT
10:10:17AM TO GIVE THANKS TO PUT THIS ONE SLIDE UP THAT IS NOT UP THERE
10:10:23AM AND I WANTED TO SHOW THIS ONE IF I COULD SO I KIND OF WANTED
10:10:44AM TO SHOW THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF TIME WE DON'T GET CALL TAKE
10:10:48AM ENOUGH.
10:10:48AM WE HAVE A CALL TAKE SINCE THE RNC, THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:10:52AM ACTUALLY -- WE ACTUALLY ESTABLISH A CALL CENTER THAT HAVE
10:10:56AM HUMANS AND NOT JUST VOICE AUTO.
10:10:59AM SO THESE INDIVIDUALS TAKE CALLS.
10:11:02AM AS SOON AS THIS TOOK PLACE, WE ACTUALLY -- LET ME GET IT
10:11:06AM STRAIGHT.
10:11:06AM WE ACTIVATED THE CALL CENTER.
10:11:09AM AND THEY ACTUALLY RECEIVED OVER 2500 CALLS THROUGHOUT THE
10:11:12AM TIME FRAME THAT THEY WERE THERE.
10:11:14AM INFORMATION WAS GIVEN OUT.
10:11:16AM THESE CALL CENTERS REPRESENTATIVES ALSO ASSISTED WITH THE
10:11:21AM COUNTY BECAUSE OUR NUMBERS ACTUALLY POLITICIZED WITH THE
10:11:25AM COUNTY WITH INFORMATION.
10:11:26AM ANYWHERE FROM DOWNED TREES, TRAFFIC LIGHT ISSUES, HOW CAN
10:11:30AM THEY GET HELP, HOW CAN THEY GET TO SPECIAL NEEDS SHELTERS.
10:11:33AM THESE CALL CENTER TAKERS WERE -- THEY WERE WONDERFUL AND
10:11:37AM HELPED THE COMMUNITY OUT A LOT.
10:11:39AM SO WE ALSO AS FAR AS CODE ENFORCEMENT, WE VISIT OVER 100 ALF
10:11:46AM FACILITIES.
10:11:46AM INSPECTED THEIR GENERATORS.
10:11:48AM MAKE SURE THEY WERE OPERATIONAL.
10:11:50AM AND BASICALLY WE REACHED OUT TO THE VULNERABLE POPULATION,
10:11:54AM TAMPA HOPE RESIDENTS, PARKS AND REC STAFF PRESENTED OVER 100
10:11:59AM RESIDENTS OF ONE OF THE SHELTERS OF MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL.
10:12:03AM THROUGHOUT THE EVENING UP UNTIL THE AREA GOT TO THE.WHERE WE
10:12:07AM WERE UNABLE, UNSAFE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY TO RESPOND, IT WAS
10:12:12AM VERY MINIMUM.
10:12:12AM WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CALLS IN THE QUEUE, BUT OVERNIGHT, WE
10:12:21AM WILL 21 CALLS FOR POWER LINES DOWN.
10:12:23AM SIX DOWNED TREE LIMBS.
10:12:27AM AND ONE HOUSE FIRE THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO HAVE A TREE THAT
10:12:30AM FALL ON IT.
10:12:31AM ONE TRANSFORMER FIRE.
10:12:32AM BASICALLY ONCE THE STORM WAS OVER, OUR ERCs, OUR EMERGENCY
10:12:39AM RESPONSE CREWS WERE PUSHED OUT.
10:12:40AM FULL ACTIVATION ON FRIDAY -- SORRY, FULL ACTIVATION 5 P.M.
10:12:48AM ON TUESDAY.
10:12:48AM AND WE HAD TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, FOREST
10:12:54AM HILL AND OAK PARK.
10:12:55AM ERC HAD 16.
10:12:57AM ERC 3 HAD SEVEN PUSH CREWS.
10:13:01AM AND ERC 3 HAD SEVEN PUSH CREWS AS WELL.
10:13:06AM AS FAR AS MOBILITY, WE HAD 71 SIGNAL INTERSECTIONS THAT WENT
10:13:10AM DARK.
10:13:11AM AND ALL OF THEM WERE BACK UP RUNNING BY 1700 HOURS ON
10:13:15AM FRIDAY.
10:13:15AM AS FAR AS DAMAGE TO PARKS AND REC.
10:13:18AM 59 PARKS AFFECTED WITH TREE DAMAGE.
10:13:21AM WE ACTUALLY -- AS FAR AS DEBRIS MANAGEMENT THE ROME YARD
10:13:29AM DESIGNATED FOR CITY DEBRIS MANAGEMENT.
10:13:32AM BOTH DEBRIS MANAGEMENT CONTRACTORS ARE THERE AND HAVE BEEN
10:13:38AM ACTIVATED.
10:13:38AM DEBRIS STARTED MONDAY OCTOBER 30 AS FAR AS PICKING IT UP.
10:13:47AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:13:48AM I TRY TO GIVE YOU A SHORT REPORT.
10:13:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:13:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:13:55AM CHIEF, THANK THE CITY STAFF AND THOSE OUT THERE SERVING AND
10:14:00AM WORKING.
10:14:01AM THANK THEM BECAUSE IT IS DIFFICULT TO BE AWARE FROM YOUR OWN
10:14:05AM FAMILY WITH THINGS GOING ON ESPECIALLY SINCE THE POTENTIAL
10:14:10AM STORM WE HAD.
10:14:11AM I DID GO OUT AND VISIT A LOT OF THE SHELTERS.
10:14:14AM ER WIN.
10:14:14AM I WENT TO THE SECOND FLOOR.
10:14:17AM GREAT JOB BY SOME OF THE FIRE GUYS THAT WERE THERE AND STAFF
10:14:21AM THAT WERE THERE WORKING WITH OUR ELDERLY AND FOLKS THAT HAVE
10:14:26AM MEDICAL NEEDS.
10:14:26AM CRITICAL TO HAVE THAT OPEN.
10:14:28AM I WENT BY MIDDLETON.
10:14:30AM A LOT OF FOLKS THERE AT MIDDLETON.
10:14:32AM GREAT JOB WITH THE STAFF THERE AS WELL BUT I DID NOTICE A
10:14:39AM FEW THINGS THAT I WANT YOU TO ADD TO THE AFTER ACTION PLAN.
10:14:41AM WHAT THOSE DON'T KNOW WITH THE AFTER ACTION, WHEN THERE IS
10:14:45AM AN INCIDENT, AND AROUND A ROUNDTABLE TO THINGS THAT COULD
10:14:53AM WORK OR COULD BE IMPROVED.
10:14:54AM SANDBAGS.
10:14:55AM 18th STREET PARK AL BARNES, I WAS OVER THERE SEVERAL TIMES
10:14:59AM HELP DO BAGS.
10:15:00AM WE NEED ANOTHER LOCATION MY THING IS THIS.
10:15:06AM WE TALKED ABOUT THAT TWO YEARS.
10:15:07AM WE HAVE A COUNTY JAIL WITH NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS.
10:15:11AM SAND CAN BE TAKEN OVER TO THE JAIL, THE SHERIFF AND SANDBAGS
10:15:16AM CAN BE FILLED.
10:15:17AM WE KNOW A STORM IS COMING.
10:15:18AM PEOPLE WERE STAYING TWO AND THREE HOURS ONLINE GOING ALL THE
10:15:22AM WAY BACK.
10:15:23AM SOME WHO ARE LOW INCOME DON'T HAVE GAS AND HAD TO STAND ON
10:15:27AM THE LINE TO GET SANDBAGS.
10:15:28AM THAT A PROBLEM FOR ME.
10:15:30AM WE CAN DO BETTER ON THE SANDBAG SITUATIONS.
10:15:33AM WE KNOW SOMETHING IS COMING.
10:15:34AM HAVE PREPARED BAGS.
10:15:35AM GET WITH THE SHERIFF TO GET THOSE BAGS READY TO BE PREPARED.
10:15:38AM THEN AGAIN SOME OF OUR WORKERS CAN HAVE SOME BAGS IN TRUCKS
10:15:43AM TO GO TO SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES WHERE PEOPLE -- SOME OF OUR
10:15:46AM SENIORS DON'T HAVE CARS.
10:15:47AM THEY NEED SANDBAGS.
10:15:50AM A LOT OF THAT HAPPENED.
10:15:51AM I TOOK SOME SANDBAGS TO SOME FOLKS.
10:15:53AM JUST OTHER WAYS OF TRYING TO IMPROVE, BUT DEFINITELY WITH
10:15:57AM THE SANDBAG SITUATION.
10:15:58AM THAT HAS GOT TO BE IMPROVED.
10:16:00AM WE RAN OUT OF SAND.
10:16:01AM WE THOUGHT IT WAS COMING.
10:16:03AM COULD HAPPEN.
10:16:04AM NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
10:16:05AM BUT I THINK A BETTER EFFICIENCY OF DEALING WITH THE SANDBAG.
10:16:10AM EVEN WITH SOME OF THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS -- WE COULD HAVE SOME
10:16:13AM OF THE FOOTBALL TEAM TO COME OUT, TO DO BAGS.
10:16:16AM AND HAVE THAT READY TO GO AND THEY COULD DROVE THEM IN AND
10:16:21AM KEEP THE LINE MOVING.
10:16:22AM TWO TO THREE HOURS IS A LONG TIME TO BE IN A LINE.
10:16:25AM IT WAS CLOSED AND MY BROTHER WANTED TO GET BAGS.
10:16:28AM WAS THERE AT 5:00.
10:16:30AM THOUGHT IT WOULD OPEN AT 7.
10:16:32AM DIDN'T OPEN UNTIL 9.
10:16:35AM PEOPLE WERE WAITING.
10:16:36AM SECOND THING TECO.
10:16:38AM I WILL MAKE A MOTION LATER ON OF TECO REPRESENTATIVE COMING
10:16:42AM TO COUNCIL.
10:16:43AM I FIND THAT TECO -- I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THEIR
10:16:47AM PREPAREDNESS AS IT RELATES TO MAKING SURE THOSE LINES ARE
10:16:50AM CLEARED BEFORE A STORM -- OR DURING A YEAR.
10:16:54AM BECAUSE I AM FINDING OUT WITH THE POWER OUTAGES THAT THEY
10:16:58AM WON'T DO ANYTHING FOR THE LINES TO COME OUT BECAUSE SOME OF
10:17:01AM THE POWER LINES HAVE GONE THROUGH THE TREES.
10:17:04AM AND IT IS WET.
10:17:06AM AND THEY CAN'T -- THEY WON'T WORK ON IT.
10:17:08AM I HEAR SOME PEOPLE SAY -- I TALKED TO A TECO EMPLOYEE AND
10:17:12AM SOME PEOPLE COME OUT AND SOME OF THE RESIDENTS SAY DON'T CUT
g10:17:16AM MY TREE AND YOU ARE HURTING OTHER PEOPLE IN THE AREA.
10:17:18AM IF THAT IS THE CASE -- IF THAT IS A HINDRANCE, WE NEED TO
10:17:22AM FIX THAT SO THE POWER OUTAGES WILL BE UP INSTEAD OF DOWN FOR
10:17:25AM A AMOUNT OF TIME.
10:17:26AM WHAT IS THE MAINTENANCE IN THE CITY OF THE TREES.
10:17:29AM GOT TO KNOW THAT.
10:17:32AM TALKED OF DISABLED FOLKS.
10:17:34AM RIVER PINES AND A FEW OTHER PLACES.
10:17:38AM TO HAVE THE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE
10:17:40AM PREPARED BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS WERE CALLING WHEN THEY
10:17:43AM WERE OUT.
10:17:43AM INSULIN NOT BEING REFRIGERATED.
10:17:46AM A LOT OF ISSUES LIKE THAT.
10:17:47AM FOLKS ON DIALYSIS.
10:17:48AM I THINK IF THEY ARE ON DIALYSIS AND THEY GO TO A PLACE EVERY
10:17:53AM DAY WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO -- I KNOW WE CONTACTED THE
10:17:56AM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERSON AT PIZZO, BUT COULDN'T GET THE
10:18:01AM INFORMATION AT THE PLACE ON TIME.
10:18:02AM THAT IS OKAY.
10:18:02AM A RUSH TO DO IT.
10:18:03AM BUT IN THE FUTURE WE NEED THE MEDICAL FACILITIES.
10:18:07AM ALL THESE DIALYSIS PLACES TO HAVE A REGISTRY TO KNOW -- SO
10:18:11AM YOU KNOW.
10:18:12AM SO IT DOESN'T PUT US OF NOT BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES
10:18:18AM WITHIN THESE SHELTERS.
10:18:19AM THAT IS WHAT I WAS FINDING OUT BIG TIME ABOUT THAT.
10:18:21AM AND LASTLY, I LOOK AT THE COMMUNICATION WITH THIS COUNCIL.
10:18:24AM I NEVER HAVE BEEN OVER TO THE EOC.
10:18:27AM I KNOW WHERE IT IS LOCATED.
10:18:30AM I NEVER HAD A TOUR OF IT.
10:18:31AM DON'T KNOW HOW IT IS OPERATED.
10:18:33AM AS POLICE OFFICERS -- BUT THE OTHER CONCEPT.
10:18:36AM IT IS GOOD TO KNOW FOR THIS COUNCIL -- FOR THIS COUNCIL, I
10:18:41AM AM SHUT OUT WHEN WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY -- CHIEF OF STAFF DOES
10:18:43AM A GOOD JOB OF GIVING LIMITED -- ALL THE INFORMATION IS WHAT
10:18:47AM YOU ARE PUTTING TO THE PUBLIC.
10:18:48AM I AM PUT IT OUT.
10:18:49AM WHEN DO WE GET BRIEFED AND ABLE TO SAY.
10:18:54AM THAT IS A PROBLEM WITH THE SYSTEM.
10:18:56AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
10:18:58AM PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY CALLING ME BECAUSE I AM THE ELECTED
10:19:00AM OFFICIAL.
10:19:01AM AND I SHOULD KNOW ANSWERS.
10:19:03AM I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB WHEN WE CAN BE INFORMED
10:19:07AM AND PART OF THE PROCESS TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS TO GET
10:19:10AM INFORMATION TO OUR CONSTITUENTS.
10:19:12AM THEY ARE CALLING US FIRST TO FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON.
10:19:15AM MY LITTLE TIDBITS TO LOOK FOR THE AFTER ACTION.
10:19:19AM THANK YOU.
10:19:20AM >> I REALLY DIDN'T -- CAN I COMMENT?
10:19:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF, GO AHEAD.
10:19:24AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I WAS TRYING TO GO SHORT AND BRIEF AND I CAN
10:19:28AM GO MORE IN DETAILS WITH SANDBAGS BECAUSE WE REALIZED LONG
10:19:33AM LINES AND STUFF.
10:19:33AM WE DID OVERCOME AND I WILL LET MISS WYNN TO GIVE MORE
10:19:38AM DETAIL, IF YOU CARE, BUT BASICALLY WE STARTED BAGGING SOME
10:19:41AM OF THE BAGS UP AND STARTED ASSISTING SOME OF THE RESIDENTS
10:19:47AM WITH THE BAGS AS THEY CAME THROUGH SO WOULDN'T HAVE A LONG
10:19:50AM LINE.
10:19:50AM WE DID HAVE THREE SITES.
10:19:51AM I CAN LET HER TALK MORE OF THE CHANGES WE DID ONCE WE SAW
10:19:55AM THE LINES BEING LONG.
10:19:56AM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
10:20:00AM AS CHIEF TRIPP MENTIONED, YES, WE REALIZED WE WERE
10:20:06AM CHALLENGED WITH LONG LINES WITH THE BAGS.
10:20:08AM WE HAD STAFF COME IN AND START PREBAGGING FIRST THING IN THE
10:20:11AM MORNING.
10:20:11AM AND WHAT YOU WILL SEE THE BAGS WERE GIVEN OUT BY THE TIME
10:20:18AM THEY GOT THERE.
10:20:19AM THAT WAS TO MITIGATE LONG LINES.
10:20:21AM ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IS LOOKING
10:20:24AM FOR SITES SO WE CAN SET UP A FOURTH SANDBAGGING SITE.
10:20:30AM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INGRESS AND EGRESS OF THOSE SITES AND
10:20:34AM A LOT OF OUR PARK CENTERS.
10:20:37AM WE WERE CHALLENGED WITH THAT.
10:20:39AM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENT OF LOOKING OUTSIDE OF
10:20:42AM THE CITY.
10:20:42AM WE WILL SEE WHAT WE CAN TO DO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
10:20:45AM WE HAD STAFF ON -- RIGHT ON THE SCENE MAKING THOSE
10:20:57AM ON-THE-SPOT DECISIONS IF WE NEED TO, OKAY, DO WE NEED TO
10:21:02AM REROUTE TRAFFIC PARTICULARLY AT MacFARLANE PARK.
10:21:05AM WE KNEW ON THE FIRST DAY WE HAD A GAME THAT EVENING.
10:21:08AM WE DETOURED AND REROUTED TRAFFIC SO THERE WOULD NOT BE A
10:21:12AM CONFLICT WITH THE VISITORS OR PARTICIPANTS GOING TO THE
10:21:16AM GAME.
10:21:16AM SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE AFTER ACTIONS TO IDENTIFY
10:21:20AM ADDITIONAL SITES NOW.
10:21:21AM WE WERE DYNAMIC ON THE SPOT IN TERMS OF TRYING TO IDENTIFY
10:21:28AM WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO NOW TO MITIGATE SOME OF
10:21:31AM THIS TRAFFIC.
10:21:32AM SO, YES.
10:21:35AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:21:37AM >>OCEA WYNN: YOU ARE WELCOME.
10:21:40AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: TECO STAGED AT MULTIPLE FIRE STATIONS
10:21:45AM AND ERCs THAT WERE ASSISTING WITH THE POWER LINES.
10:21:46AM LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T GO INTO DETAIL.
10:21:49AM TECO AS FAR AS THE CONTRACTOR, POWER LINES, CLEARED BY 1630.
10:21:53AM OF COURSE THEY HAD TO GET THAT IN ORDER TO GET THE POWER
10:21:56AM BACK UP.
10:21:56AM EACH ONE OF THE ERCs GAVE A DETAILED REPORT AND I HAVE THAT
10:22:02AM TO PUT IN THE AFTER APPLICATION THAT TALKS ABOUT TECO.
10:22:05AM THE CONTRACTORS WORKED REQUEST THE PUSH CREWS.
10:22:09AM ASSISTED WITH CUTTING THE TREES AND TRYING TO GET THE POWER
10:22:13AM UP AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
10:22:14AM ACCORDING TO THIS APPROXIMATELY 90 REQUESTS WERE SUBMITTED
10:22:18AM TO TECO.
10:22:19AM THIS WAS IN ERC 3.
10:22:22AM AND 708 INCIDENTS FROM TECO WAS REPORTED.
10:22:26AM THEY HAD THE FILL OUT 400 ERC EVENTS TOOK PLACE AND A LOT OF
10:22:33AM THIS WAS CLEARED UP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
10:22:34AM WE HAVE A TECO REPRESENTATIVE IN THE EOC AS WELL.
10:22:38AM AND GAVE US CONSTANTLY UPDATE AND LET US KNOW WHAT POWER WAS
10:22:41AM OUT AND THE DIFFERENT GRIDS AND STUFF.
10:22:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I APPRECIATE THAT, CHIEF.
10:22:45AM BUT WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT TECO'S MAINTENANCE PLAN WAS.
10:22:49AM BECAUSE LIKE I SAID A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS CLAIMED THEY
10:22:52AM COULDN'T GET THE POWER BECAUSE THE LINES WERE THROUGH THEIR
10:22:54AM TREES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
10:22:55AM PEOPLE HAVE CALLED.
10:22:56AM EVEN IN EAST TAMPA.
10:22:58AM COUPLE OF STREETS THAT PEOPLE CALLED, I WENT OUT THERE AND
10:23:01AM TAKES THEM FOREVER.
10:23:02AM I SAID I GOT TO WAIT -- FOR THE CREW TO CUT THE TREE AND
10:23:05AM WHATEVER.
10:23:06AM WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT IS THE MAINTENANCE PLAN OF KNEES
10:23:10AM TREES AND RESIDENTS TO SAY I HAVE LINES GOING THROUGH THIS
10:23:13AM TREE TO FIND OUT TO GET THOSE CUT.
10:23:15AM YOU HAVE A STORM, IT WILL BE A WHILE BECAUSE POWER WON'T BE
10:23:19AM -- APPARENTLY THE GUY TOLD ME BECAUSE OF THE WETNESS OF THE
10:23:22AM TREE GOING THROUGH THE LINES.
10:23:24AM OTHER ISSUES AND TAKES SO LONG SOMETIMES.
10:23:27AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THAT IS ONE OF THE REASON I WILL PUT A LOT OF
10:23:30AM INFORMATION ABOUT GENERATORS AS WELL.
10:23:32AM I KNOW SOME PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD IT AND WE OFFER THE SHELTERS
10:23:36AM FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
10:23:37AM I WILL MAKE SURE IT IS IN THE AFTER ACTION REPORT.
10:23:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:23:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:23:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:46AM COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT I WANT
10:23:48AM TO TALK ABOUT.
10:23:49AM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:23:50AM VERY, VERY GOOD TOPIC, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SANDBAGS.
10:23:53AM 100,000 BAGS DISTRIBUTED BUT PEOPLE WERE SAYING WHY NOT A
10:23:57AM DIFFERENT LOCATION AND WHATNOT AND I KNOW YOU WILL BE
10:24:00AM ADDRESSING THAT AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNCILMEMBERS OUT
10:24:03AM FILLING THOSE SANDBAGS.
10:24:05AM SEVERAL WERE OUT THERE WHICH IS ALWAYS VERY GOOD.
10:24:08AM MORE IMPORTANTLY I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
10:24:10AM I KNOW THAT -- WHAT WAS IT LIKE 40 TPD OFFICERS WERE
10:24:14AM DEPLOYED TO NORTH PORT IN PORT CHARLOTTE.
10:24:17AM MY WIFE MOVED UP FROM NORTH PORT LAST YEAR.
10:24:19AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HER NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS LIKE.
10:24:21AM MY ELDEST STEPDAUGHTER LIVES DOWN THERE WITH HER FATHER AND
10:24:28AM THEY HAVE BEEN WITHOUT POWER.
10:24:29AM THEY ARE FINE, BUT NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR THEM TO EVACUATE TO
10:24:32AM COME HERE BECAUSE AS THE STORM WAS TURNING QUICKLY, THEY ARE
10:24:36AM OKAY, BUT THEY HAVE -- HE HAS SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO HIS
10:24:38AM HOUSE.
10:24:39AM BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO RELAY ON THEIR BEHALF, THANK
10:24:43AM YOU FOR TAMPA COMING IN AND STEPPING UP AND GOING DOWN
10:24:46AM THERE.
10:24:46AM BECAUSE THEY HAVE SEEN HOW HELPFUL OUR PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOWN
10:24:50AM TO THEIR COMMUNITY.
10:24:51AM AND WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
10:24:53AM AGAIN, COUNCILMAN GUDES, JUST TO KEEP MY COMMENTS BRIEF HAVE
10:24:57AM MENTIONED EVERYTHING REGARDING GOING TO THE EOC.
10:25:00AM I NEVER HAVE BEEN THERE.
10:25:02AM MANY OF US HAVE NOT BEEN THERE.
10:25:03AM JUST SO WE KNOW.
10:25:05AM AND AN APPRECIATION TO CHIEF BENNETT.
10:25:07AM HE WAS VERY QUICK WITH INFORMATION.
10:25:10AM BUT WE GET INUNDATED WITH QUESTIONS.
10:25:14AM AND AS CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES, PEOPLE REACH OUT TO US
10:25:17AM ESPECIALLY WITH POWER LOSS.
10:25:19AM I WOULD REPLAY EVERYTHING TO MR. JUICE AT TECO FOR THOSE
10:25:27AM WITHOUT POWER FOR SEVERAL DAYS AND HE WAS VERY, VERY
10:25:29AM RESPONSIVE.
10:25:30AM TECO IS VERY, VERY GOOD WITH THAT, BUT, AGAIN, THIS IS A
10:25:34AM VERY COMPLICATED EFFORT WHEN WE HAVE SUCH AN UNPREDICTABLE
10:25:38AM STORM, BUT I APPRECIATE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT YOU
10:25:41AM AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WORKED TIRELESSLY ON STANDBY THERE
10:25:45AM TO KEEP THIS COMMUNITY SAFE.
10:25:46AM THANK YOU.
10:25:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:25:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:25:51AM YOU KNOW I ECHO THE PART ON APPRECIATION.
10:25:54AM I WAS -- I WILL BE HONEST.
10:25:55AM I WAS FLOORED JUST WATCHING WHAT OUR CITY OF TAMPA WORKERS
10:25:58AM DID.
10:25:59AM BEING OUT AT THE SANDBAG LOCATION.
10:26:03AM MISS WYNN'S GROUP AND PARKS AND RECREATION.
10:26:08AM I WAS FLOORED.
10:26:08AM THAT IS REALLY HARD WORK.
10:26:10AM A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS -- AND I AM OUT OF SHAPE, OKAY, I WAS
10:26:13AM OUT THERE TWO, TWO AND A HALF HOURS WITH MY WIFE AND I WAS
10:26:16AM EXHAUSTED AND FOLKS WERE OUT THERE ABOUT TEN HOURS, RIGHT.
10:26:20AM IMFLOORED.
10:26:22AM JUST BY ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS, PARKS AND RECREATION,
10:26:26AM OBVIOUSLY FIRE, POLICE, ETC., ALL OF THE PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO
10:26:29AM ARE HERE, THE CITY ATTORNEY, DEALING WITH EMERGENCY ORDERS.
10:26:33AM IT WAS REALLY JUST SOMETHING TO SEE EVEN JUST FROM A
10:26:36AM DISTANCE.
10:26:37AM AND YOU KNOW THE ONLY THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY -- AND I WILL
10:26:40AM PROBABLY -- I WILL MAKE MOTIONS ON THIS AT THE END.
10:26:43AM NUMBER ONE, COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTION A GOOD POINT WITH
10:26:46AM REGARDS TO THE SANDBAG ISSUES THAT WE PROBABLY NEED MORE
10:26:50AM BODIES THERE AND, AGAIN, YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK AFTERWARDS AND
10:26:55AM SAY, HEY, LISTEN, WE CAN DO THIS BETTER, ETC.
10:26:59AM THANK GOD WE ULTIMATELY DIDN'T GET THE HURRICANE -- I SHOULD
10:27:03AM SAY THANK GOODNESS, WE ULTIMATELY DIDN'T GET THE HURRICANE
10:27:07AM FOR THAT.
10:27:07AM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- SO MANY DIFFERENT VOLUNTEER
10:27:11AM GROUPS IN TAMPA THAT CAN BE AMASSED TO HELP OUT AT SANDBAG
10:27:14AM LOCATIONS.
10:27:15AM ROTARY CLUBS.
10:27:16AM WE HAD SOMEBODY HERE WITH THE PAST PRESIDENT OF GEORGE
10:27:20AM EDGECOMB BAR ASSOCIATION AND I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE A TAMPA
10:27:25AM VOLUNTEER CORP.
10:27:27AM TAMPA CORP, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT FOR ISSUES
10:27:31AM LIKE THIS.
10:27:31AM NOT FOR THINGS THAT WILL GET US SUED OR SOMEBODY GO AND PUT
10:27:34AM THEMSELVES IN DANGER BUT COMMON THINGS LIKE SANDBAG
10:27:38AM LOCATIONS, ETC., WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO HELP.
10:27:40AM PEOPLE WANT TO WANT TO HELP, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW, ESPECIALLY
10:27:44AM IN A TIME LIKE THIS.
10:27:46AM WHEN I WENT OUT THERE, I WAS LOOKING AT THE STORM WE
10:27:51AM PROBABLY POTENTIALLY WILL GET HIT.
10:27:53AM I WAS IN A LOCATION THAT WAS ELEVATED.
10:27:55AM I WANT TO HELP OUT MY FELLOW TAMPANOS IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT
10:28:00AM COULD POTENTIALLY GET FLOODED, GOD BLESS THEM.
10:28:04AM THE OTHER MOTION -- AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION AT THE END,
10:28:07AM SHELTER WITH ANIMALS.
10:28:08AM A LOT OF OUR CONSTITUENTS DON'T LEAVE THEIR HOMES IF THEIR
10:28:13AM DOG OR CAT DON'T COME WITH THEM.
10:28:15AM WITH THE COUNTY WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT ISSUE AND SOMETHING
10:28:18AM VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
10:28:19AM YOU KNOW THOUSAND TIMES BETTER THAN I DO, BUT WORKING WITH
10:28:22AM OUR FRIENDS IN THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND DIFFERENT
10:28:24AM ORGANIZATIONS TO START THREE OR FOUR MONTHS BEFORE HURRICANE
10:28:29AM SEASON SOME SORT OF A PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN ON, YOU
10:28:33AM KNOW, GETTING UP TO DATE WITH YOUR SHOTS, YOUR ANIMALS,
10:28:37AM ETC., TO GET THEM OUT TO THE SHELTER, ETC.
10:28:39AM I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT AT THE END, BUT, AGAIN, THE
10:28:43AM CITY OF TAMPA STAFF WAS REALLY AMAZING.
10:28:45AM LIKE REALLY, REALLY AMAZING.
10:28:48AM EVERYBODY -- MY HAT IS OFF.
10:28:50AM VERY INSPIRING TO SEE AND VERY LUCKY AS A CITY.
10:28:53AM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:28:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:28:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:28:58AM THANK YOU, CHIEF TRIPP AND ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES AND
10:29:02AM VOLUNTEERS WHO DID DID WHAT THEY DID TO MAKE YOU SAFE IN A
10:29:06AM FORM.
10:29:06AM HOWEVER, I LOOK AT THINGS IN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
10:29:09AM WHAT IF THAT HURRICANE DIDN'T GO THIS WAY AND THAT WAY.
10:29:12AM WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING OF SANDBAGS.
10:29:15AM WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT GENERATORS.
10:29:17AM THEY WILL BE UNDER WATER.
10:29:20AM THE GENERATORS WILL HAD BEEN UNDER WATER.
10:29:22AM WHEN OFF STORM OF THAT SIZE THAT COME IN, THAT MOVES THE BAY
10:29:26AM AND EACH GALLON OF WATER WEIGHS 8.77 POUNDS.
10:29:30AM AND TAKE A TRILLION AND BILLIONS OF WATER OUT, WHAT DOES
10:29:34AM THAT TELL YOU IF IT CAME THIS WAY AND IT WOULD HAVE COME
10:29:37AM THIS WAY?
10:29:38AM WHERE WE SIT AT TODAY, WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN UNDER WATER.
10:29:41AM I AM SO SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT TOOK THIS.
10:29:46AM THE DISASTER THERE.
10:29:47AM THEY SAY 40 TO 50 BILLION, MAYBE MORE THAN THAT, 80 TO 100
10:29:52AM BILLION.
10:29:53AM IT WILL BE UNBELIEVABLE.
10:29:54AM AND I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LOST EVERYTHING AND
10:29:59AM SOME INCLUDING THE FAMILY MEMBERS' LIVES.
10:30:01AM AND HEROICS OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE OUT THERE PICKING THEM UP
10:30:05AM AND TRYING TO SAVE THEM, ALL OF THEM, FROM THE MILITARY,
10:30:07AM FROM THE COAST GUARD, FROM EVERYONE WHO DID THE WORK.
10:30:10AM FIRE FIGHTERS STATIONED, FIRE STATION UNDER WATER, SIX, SEVEN
10:30:15AM FEET OF WATER IN THEM.
10:30:16AM A TRAGEDY WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
10:30:18AM WE LEARN BY WHAT HAPPENED.
10:30:21AM NOW WE HAVE TO APPLY WHAT WE LEARNED INTO A REALITY.
10:30:24AM YES, BACK UP FOR THE SANDBAGS.
10:30:27AM YES I SAW THEM ON MacDILL AVENUE COMING ALL THE WAY NORTH TO
10:30:31AM SPRUCE, SPRUCE, HEADED ALL THE WAY TO -- TO HIMES.
10:30:35AM THEY WERE LINED UP.
10:30:36AM I SAW A LOT OF CONGESTION THERE, BUT THE PEOPLE GOT ALONG
10:30:41AM FINE.
10:30:41AM THEY UNDERSTOOD THE EMERGENCY WHAT IS THERE.
10:30:46AM YOU CAN PREPARE, BUT SOME PEOPLE EVEN WHEN YOU TELL THEM TO
10:30:49AM EVACUATE, THAT YOU HAVE TO EVACUATE, THEY DO NOT LEAVE.
10:30:52AM AND THAT HAPPENED IN THIS HURRICANE.
10:30:55AM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES BECAUSE OF THAT.
10:30:57AM I AM NOT SAYING THEY ALL WOULD HAVE, BUT WE NEED TO
10:31:00AM UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A -- AN ITEM LIKE THIS, WE ARE
10:31:04AM NOT PRACTICING UP ON THIS.
10:31:05AM YOU NEVER PRACTICE WHAT IS HAPPENING LIKE THIS.
10:31:08AM BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE THERE TO PROTECT YOUR
10:31:12AM BELONGINGS.
10:31:12AM BUT I THINK YOU BETTER START TALKING OF PROTECTING YOUR
10:31:16AM LIFE.
10:31:16AM WHEN THIS HAPPENS, WE DON'T REALIZE HOW POWERFUL THIS IS IF
10:31:21AM YOU CAN DEVASTATE MILES AFTER MILES AND LEAVE IT FLAT.
10:31:24AM NOT A BLOCK OR TWO OR MILES AND MILES OF IT.
10:31:27AM SO SORRY FOR THOSE PEOPLE AND I WISH I COULD DO SOMETHING TO
10:31:33AM HELP THEM OUT.
10:31:33AM AND I THINK WE HAVE TO DONATE.
10:31:35AM A LOT OF TV STATIONS GIVE AN AMOUNT TO SEND TO THEM.
10:31:39AM PUBLIC NEED AND NECESSITY AT THIS TIME TO HELP OUR FELLOW
10:31:43AM CITIZENS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
10:31:44AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS
10:31:46AM DONE TO MAKE US AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE.
10:31:48AM >> THANK YOU.
10:31:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:31:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A MOTION?
10:31:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE INFORMATION THAT CAME IN FROM
10:31:57AM CITIZENS.
10:31:57AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CHIEF HAS IT.
10:32:00AM SEVERAL CITIZENS ARE CALLING IN WHO ARE WATCHING SAYING WHY
10:32:03AM HAVEN'T WE INVESTED IN POSSIBLY AUTOMATED SANDBAG MACHINES.
10:32:07AM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY, BUT PEOPLE SAY WE
10:32:09AM SHOULD BE INVESTING IN THOSE TYPE OF MATERIALS TO HELP OUT
10:32:12AM WITH THIS SITUATION.
10:32:13AM I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
10:32:14AM THAT CITIZENS ARE WATCHING.
10:32:16AM THEY ARE PAYING ATTENTION.
10:32:17AM AND RECEIVED THREE CALLS ON THIS.
10:32:19AM >> ACTUALLY THAT IS ON OUR LIST ON AFTER ACTION TO GET AN
10:32:23AM AMMIC -- FOR VOLUNTEERS.
10:32:26AM WE HAVE OUR PROGRAM AND A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS ARE OUT THERE
10:32:30AM WORKING AS WELL.
10:32:30AM SOMETHING ELSE I DIDN'T TALK -- I WILL LET THE REST OF YOU
10:32:33AM FINISH, BUT LAW ENFORCEMENT, CHIEF O'CONNOR HAD HER
10:32:37AM PERSONNEL OUT THERE.
10:32:38AM ALL THE EVACUATION WENT TO THEIR HOMES MULTIPLE TIMES AND
10:32:41AM THEY DID, LIKE, CLOSE TO 100,000 PEOPLE -- RESIDENTS AS FAR
10:32:46AM AS TELLING THEM YOU ARE IN AN EVACUATION ZONE.
10:32:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:32:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:32:53AM TO THE -- TO THE POINTS THAT WERE JUST MENTIONED.
10:32:57AM AS SOON AS WE SAW THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET HIT IN SOME WAY,
10:33:01AM I STARTED GETTING E-MAILS AND CALLS SAYING ARE WE GOING TO
10:33:04AM HAVE THE SLOW SANDBAG DISTRIBUTION THIS YEAR OR MACHINES.
10:33:09AM PEOPLE SAID THEY HAVE BEEN ASKING EVERY TIMES TO GET THE
10:33:12AM MACHINES TO SANDBAG.
10:33:13AM AND PEOPLE WERE VERY FRUSTRATED.
10:33:17AM YOU SAW THE NEWS OF THE LINES AND EVERYTHING.
10:33:19AM THE -- I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE FOLKS INSIDE THE
10:33:26AM CITY AND OUT WHO WORKED HARD AND DIDN'T SLEEP.
10:33:29AM I SAW SOME OF THE PICTURES AND LOOKED LIKE PEOPLE WERE
10:33:32AM TIRED.
10:33:32AM AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR -- THANK YOU, NICOLE FOR
10:33:36AM SLEEPING ON A COT.
10:33:38AM SO THANKS TO EVERYBODY.
10:33:40AM AND THE COMMENTS I HAVE ARE NOT GOING TO BE DIRECTED TO
10:33:44AM ANYBODY WHO WORKED ON THAT AND TO YOU, CHIEF.
10:33:47AM BUT I -- I THINK WE NEED TO IMPROVE COMMUNICATION WITH THE
10:33:51AM PUBLIC.
10:33:54AM MOST OF MY -- I REPRESENT SOUTH TAMPA.
10:33:56AM MOST OF MY DISTRICT IS IN EVACUATION ZONE A.
10:33:59AM MY HOUSE IS IN EVACUATION ZONE A.
10:34:03AM I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE EVACUATION BY SOMEONE CONTACTING ME TO
10:34:07AM THE COUNTY.
10:34:08AM AND ONLY THREE OR FOUR HOURS LATE THEIR THE CITY SENT
10:34:12AM ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
10:34:12AM SURE, THE CITY CAN ONLY SEND THINGS OUT WHEN IT WAS
10:34:18AM APPROVED, BUT A LACK OF COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC AND A
10:34:20AM LACK OF COMMUNICATION WITH COUNCIL.
10:34:22AM I TRACK SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS FOR SEVERAL CITIES.
10:34:26AM ON THE MORNING AFTER THE -- THE EVENT, ST. PETERSBURG
10:34:30AM STARTED POSTING 8 OR 9:00 IN THE MORNING WHAT TO DO AFTER
10:34:34AM THE STORM.
10:34:34AM HOW TO CLEAN UP WHEN YOUR TRASH -- IT WAS THREE OR FOUR
10:34:37AM HOURS LATE THEIR TAMPA STARTED TO PUSH SOME THINGS OUT AND
10:34:40AM IT WASN'T NEARLY ENOUGH.
10:34:42AM I STARTED ASKING PEOPLE FOR INFORMATION SO WE CAN INFORM THE
10:34:45AM PUBLIC.
10:34:46AM THROUGH OUR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS, WE HAVE THE ABILITY
10:34:50AM TO REACH OUT TO THOUSAND OF PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC.
10:34:52AM AND WE ARE GETTING CALLS AND E-MAILS, SURE WE CAN DIRECT
10:34:55AM THEM TO A HOTLINE.
10:34:56AM AND THEY EXPECT US TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THESE THINGS.
10:35:00AM NOW THAT WE -- A HURRICANE -- IF YOU LIVE IN FLORIDA,
10:35:05AM UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS A REOCCURRING ISSUE.
10:35:08AM WE KNOW THE TIMELINE OF WHAT HAPPENS IN A HURRICANE.
10:35:11AM AND SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THE COMMUNICATION ASSETS
10:35:15AM AND PUT IT IN A PLAN SO WE SAY 48 HOURS BEFORE, HERE IS THE
10:35:21AM COMMUNICATION ASSETS WE SEND OUT.
10:35:23AM TEN HOURS, FIVE HOURS, THE ASSETS WE SEND OUT.
10:35:27AM THE QUESTION -- I LOOKED AT THE SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT AGAIN.
10:35:30AM I CAN'T SEE IT IF I MISSED IT, I APOLOGIZE.
10:35:34AM THE SANITATION PEOPLE WERE GREAT AT PICKING UP GARBAGE.
10:35:37AM THEY PUT A SPECIAL DAY.
10:35:39AM THEY WENT THROUGH AND COMMUNICATED THAT.
10:35:41AM BUT THE TRASH ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD IS STILL THERE
10:35:46AM THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS I HAVE BEEN THROUGH.
10:35:47AM AND PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN IT IS GOING TO GET
10:35:51AM PICKED UP.
10:35:51AM AND NEEDS TO BE BETTER COMMUNICATION.
10:35:53AM THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT AND SOME COMMUNICATION ALTHOUGH
10:35:57AM THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT SLOW.
10:35:59AM THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL PICK UP.
10:36:01AM PROVIDING A HAZARD BECAUSE CARS ARE ALMOST HITTING EACH
10:36:05AM OTHER DRIVING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:36:07AM PEDESTRIANS ARE TRYING TO NAVIGATE IT.
10:36:09AM THE OTHER THING -- THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT
10:36:14AM A CRISIS LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY THE FACT THAT WE MIGHT HAVE
10:36:17AM HAD A KATRINA OR SOMETHING IN TAMPA, MAYBE WHAT HAPPENED IN
10:36:20AM FORT MYERS COULD HAVE HAPPENED IN TAMPA.
10:36:22AM AND IN MY DISTRICT, IT -- IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SET
10:36:28AM POLITICS ASIDE.
10:36:29AM SHOULDN'T BE A TIME WHEN WE HAVE POLITICAL ISSUES.
10:36:31AM WHAT I FELT LIKE -- SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES FELT
10:36:36AM LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL SET ASIDE, WE WERE PROVIDED ALMOST NO
10:36:41AM INFORMATION.
10:36:41AM IF THE PRESIDENT AND THE GOVERNOR WHO DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER
10:36:43AM CAN GET TOGETHER AND HAVE COMMUNICATION, HOW COME IN -- IT
10:36:47AM IS MY DISTRICT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE HARDEST HIT.
10:36:50AM I DIDN'T GET A SINGLE PHONE CALL FROM ANYONE.
10:36:53AM TWO OR THREE TEXT FROM THE CHIEF OF STAFF WITH VERY LITTLE
10:36:56AM INFORMATION.
10:36:56AM I GOT THE DAILY UPDATES.
10:36:57AM BESIDE THAT.
10:36:58AM I NEVER HAVE BEEN IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FACILITY
10:37:01AM EITHER.
10:37:01AM NEVER HAVE BEEN INVITED.
10:37:03AM I DON'T CARE ABOUT GOING THERE, ABOUT YOU WE NEED BETTER
10:37:06AM COMMUNICATION, BECAUSE WE ARE HALF THE GOVERNMENT.
10:37:09AM JUST BECAUSE WE GO UNDER AN EMERGENCY ORDER -- I AM NOT
10:37:13AM DIRECTING THIS TO YOU -- I AM JUST LOOKING THAT WAY.
10:37:16AM THERE HAS TO BE A PROTOCOL THAT JUST BECAUSE WE ARE IN AN
10:37:20AM EMERGENCY SITUATION DOESN'T MEAN THAT CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T
10:37:23AM EXIST.
10:37:23AM WE STILL HAVE HALF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY.
10:37:25AM AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THESE ISSUES.
10:37:28AM I THINK WE NEED A COMMUNICATION PLAN.
10:37:31AM IF WE CAN DO VIDEOS OF THE MAYOR AND HER DOG ON BAYSHORE, WE
10:37:36AM CAN COMMUNICATE WITH CITY COUNCIL.
10:37:37AM AND I WOULD LIKE -- IT IS A COMPLETELY FAIR SITUATION.
10:37:43AM I DIDN'T GET A SINGLE PHONE CALL FROM ANYBODY.
10:37:46AM YOU WERE INVITED TO THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CENTER.
10:37:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET ME DIRECT CORRECT YOU.
10:37:53AM I WAS NOT INVITED.
10:37:55AM I MADE THE EFFORT TO CALL.
10:37:56AM I MADE -- I WANTED TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERYTHING.
10:37:59AM NO I WASN'T INVITED.
10:38:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ADMINISTRATION CHOOSE THEIR FAVORITES AND
10:38:05AM THEY IGNORE EVERYBODY ELSE.
10:38:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, PLEASE.
10:38:09AM YOUR FIVE MINUTES IS UP.
10:38:11AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:38:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT ALL OF OUR -- ALL OF MY
10:38:23AM COLLEAGUES HAVE MADE INCREDIBLE POINTS.
10:38:25AM SO I AM NOT GOING TO REITERATE THE POINTS EXCEPT TO SAY
10:38:29AM THANK YOU FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE THERE AND FOR ALL OF OUR
10:38:32AM FIRST VERY RESPONDERS WHO DID AN AMAZING JOB FROM EVERYTHING
10:38:35AM THAT I CAN SEE.
10:38:36AM COMMUNICATION COULD BE BETTER.
10:38:39AM BUT WHAT I AM -- I AM INTERESTED IN MOST IS I KNOW THAT YOUR
10:38:44AM TEAMS ARE GETTING TOGETHER AND ALL OF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
10:38:47AM WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT DIDN'T WORK.
10:38:49AM WHAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED.
10:38:50AM WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IS WHEN YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION,
10:38:54AM MAYBE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL ON THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL
10:38:58AM RECOGNIZED AND WHATS THAT BEEN MENTIONED TODAY AND HOW WE
10:39:03AM SEE WE ARE GOING TO IMPROVE THAT.
10:39:05AM THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LOVE.
10:39:06AM THE OTHER THING I KNOW THAT WE WILL PROBABLY GET BUT
10:39:10AM OBVIOUSLY NOT ANY TIME SOON.
10:39:12AM I REALLY WANT THE DATA OF WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE WHEN IT HIT
10:39:17AM FORT MYERS BECAUSE IT -- THAT AREA IS VERY SIMILAR.
10:39:20AM WE HAVE THE BAY.
10:39:21AM WE HAVE THE RIVERS GOING UP.
10:39:22AM WHAT DID THE FLOOD LOOK LIKE.
10:39:24AM WHERE DID IT ACTUALLY HIT.
10:39:25AM THE HEIGHT AND HOW DEEP DID IT GO IN.
10:39:28AM WHEN YOU SEE PICTURES ON MEDIA, ALWAYS THE COAST, LIKE THE
10:39:32AM MOST DAMAGE THAT THEY CAN SHOW.
10:39:34AM AND I KNOW SOME OF THAT IS SENSATIONALIZED BUT JUST TO SHOW
10:39:38AM WHAT ABSOLUTELY HAVOC OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE COAST, BUT
10:39:42AM THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE DON'T LIVE ON THE COAST EXACTLY.
10:39:45AM SO WHAT DID -- WHAT DID THE STORM -- WHAT DID THE FLOODING
10:39:50AM LOOK LIKE THERE?
10:39:51AM AND HOW CAN WE USE IT HERE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT KIND OF
10:39:54AM STORM WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE HERE.
10:39:56AM I KNOW WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO DO THAT.
10:39:58AM THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IN THE NEXT -- HOWEVER MUCH
10:40:01AM TIME WE CAN DO IT.
10:40:02AM AND I AM SURE FOLKS ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT I
10:40:05AM WOULD LOVE A PRESENTATION TO THE COUNCIL ON JUST -- YOU
10:40:09AM KNOW, HOW WE CAN TAKE WHAT UNFORTUNATELY HAPPENED IN THE
10:40:14AM FORT MYERS AREA AND WHAT WE CAN LEARN FROM THAT TO MAKE SURE
10:40:19AM -- OUR RESPONSE BETTER AS WE GO.
10:40:23AM AND I WOULD LOVE -- I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA IF ALL OF US
10:40:26AM GOT A TOUR OF THE AREA -- OF THE -- OF THE EMERGENCY
10:40:31AM MANAGEMENT CENTER JUST SO WE KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND
10:40:34AM WHAT WE COULD DO IN THE FUTURE AND HOW WE CAN MAYBE LIKE A
10:40:38AM QUICK WAY THAT ALL OF US CAN GET INFORMATION SO WE CAN SEND
10:40:44AM IT OUT BECAUSE WE DID GET A LOT OF PHONE CALLS.
10:40:46AM A LOT OF E-MAILS.
10:40:47AM ALL THAT -- SOCIAL MEDIA WAS HUGE.
10:40:49AM I TRIED -- I JUST RETWEETED AND RESHARED EVERYTHING 245 THAT
10:40:54AM THE CITY PUT OUT.
10:40:56AM THAT WAS ALL I COULD DO.
10:40:57AM WHAT ELSE COULD WE DO.
10:40:59AM I DIDN'T WANT TO BOTHER PEOPLE AT THE TEAM.
10:41:01AM INFORMATION LIKE THAT WILL BE WONDERFULLY HELPFUL.
10:41:04AM THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
10:41:06AM I KNOW YOU ARE ALREADY DOING IT.
10:41:07AM I KNOW YOU ARE THINKING HOW CAN WE IMPROVE.
10:41:10AM BUT IF WE CAN KNOW THAT TOO, THAT WILL BE VERY WONDERFUL.
10:41:13AM THANK YOU.
10:41:14AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I WILL SEND AN INVITE TO ALL OF YOU AND
10:41:18AM ESCORT YOU TO THE EOC SO YOU CAN SEE IT.
10:41:21AM JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO TRY -- BEFORE THE
10:41:25AM CHAIR COMMENT.
10:41:26AM WHEN WE TALK OF INFORMATION GETTING OUT, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY,
10:41:29AM WE STARTED LIKE TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE.
10:41:31AM I KNOW PEOPLE WILL CALL AND PEOPLE WILL SEND TEXTS AND SAY I
10:41:34AM DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS.
10:41:35AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO.
10:41:37AM LIKE I SAID, WHEN IT COMES TO EVACUATION, WE CAN'T FORCE
10:41:42AM ANYONE TO LEAVE.
10:41:43AM WE HAVE BEEN KNOCKING ON DOORS AND I KNOW FOR SURE WE HAD
10:41:46AM MEDIA COVERAGE FROM SUNDAY ALL THE WAY UNTIL THURSDAY.
10:41:49AM I MEAN TWICE A DAY, INFORMING THE COMMUNITY, BEGGING AND
10:41:53AM PLEADING INDIVIDUALS TO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE LEAVE.
10:41:56AM I KNOW ALREADY LESSONS LEARNED THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM THIS
10:41:59AM AND THE DEVASTATION DOWN THERE WE NEVER WILL KNOW EXACTLY
10:42:03AM THE NULL DETAILS.
10:42:04AM WE CAN GO BY PICTURES AND STUFF, BUT THE BIGGEST THING I
10:42:09AM BELIEVE THE COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN GOOD TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:42:11AM WE CAN DO MORE AND AS FAR AS COMMUNICATION WITH YOU GUYS, AS
10:42:15AM LONG AS I'M HERE, YOU WILL GET AN EMAIL AND PHONE CALL FOR
10:42:18AM YOU MOVING FORWARD.
10:42:19AM HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE ANYMORE BUT WE WILL LET YOU KNOW.
10:42:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY, MAKE IT QUICK.
10:42:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:42:29AM INVITATIONS AS AN INDIVIDUAL OR A GROUP.
10:42:33AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: HOVER YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO SEND IT.
10:42:37AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF IT IS A GROUP WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE
10:42:41AM SUNSHINE LAW AND CONFINES.
10:42:43AM A SPACE THAT YOU MAY NOT WANT TO NECESSARILY HAVE THE PUBLIC
10:42:45AM THERE.
10:42:46AM SO WE WILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
10:42:48AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I WILL TAKE THE NOTE.
10:42:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM ASKING THAT YOU INCLUDE ME IN THE
10:42:53AM PROCESS TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS DONE ACCORDING --
10:42:57AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES, SIR.
10:42:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
10:42:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
10:43:01AM CHIEF, THANK YOU.
10:43:02AM THANK YOU.
10:43:04AM THANK YOU TO FIRE.
10:43:06AM THANK YOU TO POLICE WHO HAD TO WORK 12 HOURS ON, 12 HOURS
10:43:10AM OUT.
10:43:10AM THANK YOU TO EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD WHO COULD HAVE BEEN WITH
10:43:13AM THEIR FAMILIES AND INSTEAD WERE DOWN AT THE EOC.
10:43:16AM THANK YOU TO PARKS AND RECREATION FOR HELPING OUR CITIZENS.
10:43:21AM THE SAND THAT WAS BROUGHT IN FOR THE SANDBAGS STILL HAD
10:43:27AM BEACH GRASS IN IT.
10:43:28AM WE COULDN'T FILL UP THOSE BAGS FAST ENOUGH.
10:43:33AM I WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE WHO WERE OUT THERE VOLUNTEERING,
10:43:37AM THE COMMON SENSE WHO ROLLED UP THEIR SLEEVES AND HELPED FILL
10:43:41AM THOSE SANDBAGS.
10:43:43AM I WANT TO THANK PEOPLE WHO TOOK WATER AND FOOD TO THEIR
10:43:50AM NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THEIR ELECTRICITY WAS OUT.
10:43:54AM I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY IN THIS CITY WHO HELPED EVERYBODY
10:44:02AM ELSE OUT.
10:44:03AM AND THANK YOU TO OUR FAMILY, THE CITY EMPLOYEES THAT WERE
10:44:10AM THERE FOR THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA THANK YOU, CHIEF.
10:44:15AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THANK YOU ALL.
10:44:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AT THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:44:22AM IF YOU ARE WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE FORM A LINE ON MY LEFT,
10:44:27AM YOUR RIGHT.
10:44:28AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:44:36AM ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE TO SAY -- I NEVER LIKE TO
10:44:39AM PERSONALIZE ANYTHING BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY GROWING UP, MY
10:44:42AM FATHER WAS AN OBNOXIOUS PIG.
10:44:46AM MY FATHER WAS AN OBNOXIOUS PIG.
10:44:50AM WHY IS THAT?
10:44:51AM ALTHOUGH HE HAD A SCHEDULE -- WE HAD A SCHEDULE WHEN WE CAN
10:44:55AM HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR MOTHER, HE USED TO BREAK
10:45:00AM THE SCHEDULE.
10:45:00AM THAT IS WHAT OBNOXIOUS PEOPLE DO.
10:45:03AM SO ALTHOUGH IT IS A SCHEDULE HERE FOR WHEN THE PUBLIC CAN
10:45:08AM SPEAK, SOMEBODY BREAKS THE SCHEDULE.
10:45:10AM AND NOBODY HAVE THE COURAGE TO STAND UP AND CHALLENGE THEM.
10:45:18AM BUT MY FATHER NEVER RESPECTED US BECAUSE HE WAS ON OBNOXIOUS
10:45:24AM BIG.
10:45:24AM AND SOMEBODY DON'T RESPECT THE PEOPLE.
10:45:26AM PEOPLE GETTING UP AND WALKING OUT BECAUSE SAT HERE SINCE
10:45:30AM 9:00 THIS MORNING.
10:45:32AM BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS -- IN THE OBNOXIOUS PIG CATEGORY AND NO
10:45:39AM RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE, THE CITIZENS WHO PAY FOR PARKING, TO
10:45:41AM GET PARKING TICKETS TO COME DOWN HERE AND SAY WHAT THEY GOT
10:45:44AM TO SAY.
10:45:45AM AND CLOWNS TALKING ABOUT SANDBAGS.
10:45:51AM I DON'T CARE ABOUT NO SANDBAGS AND DON'T CARE ABOUT THE
10:45:55AM HURRICANE.
10:45:55AM WHITE PEOPLE HAVE MADE A PROFITABLE BUSINESS TALKING ABOUT
10:45:58AM WHO WENT WHERE AND WHO WENT WHERE ALL OF THOSE WHITE FOLKS
10:46:02AM GETTING PAID!
10:46:03AM MAJOR PAY.
10:46:04AM YOU HEARD WHAT THE PERSON SAY.
10:46:05AM 50% OF THE BREAST CANCER AWARENESS THINGS GOES TO RESEARCH,
10:46:10AM THE OTHER 85% NOBODY KNOWS.
10:46:14AM WHITE FOLKS GETTING PAID.
10:46:16AM NOBODY CARE ABOUT THAT.
10:46:17AM WHAT WE CARE ABOUT IN THIS CITY, WHAT WE CARE ABOUT AS
10:46:21AM AFRICAN PEOPLE AND WHAT WE HAVE TO CARE ABOUT AND THE ONLY
10:46:25AM THING WE CARE ABOUT IS REPARATIONS.
10:46:27AM THAT IS THE ONLY THING WE CARE ABOUT.
10:46:30AM WE HAVE HAD PERRY HARVEY.
10:46:33AM WE HAD GWEN MILLER.
10:46:35AM WE HAD KEVIN WHITE.
10:46:36AM REVEREND THOMAS SCOTT.
10:46:37AM FRANK REDDICK.
10:46:39AM NOW ORLANDO GUDES AND NOT ONE WORD OF THESE BLACK CLOWNS,
10:46:44AM THESE BLACK FOOLS EVER MENTIONED THE WORD "REPARATIONS."
10:46:49AM THEY TALK ABOUT PARKS.
10:46:50AM THEY TALK OF RECREATION.
10:46:51AM THEY TALK OF SAY NO TO DRUG.
10:46:53AM SAY NO TO GUN VIOLENCE.
10:46:55AM BUT WHITE FOLKS OWE US FOR 400 YEARS OF FREE LABOR.
10:47:00AM AND WE ARE GOING TO STOP CALLING IT FREE LABOR.
10:47:03AM BECAUSE IT IS NOT FREE AND WE WANT TO GET PAID FOR IT.
10:47:06AM PETITION WANT TO GET PAID FOR IT!
10:47:10AM OBNOXIOUS.
10:47:11AM SCARY.
10:47:12AM COWARDS.
10:47:13AM DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
10:47:16AM NO RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE AND ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NO
10:47:19AM RESPECT FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
10:47:20AM NONE!
10:47:23AM AFRICAN PEOPLE IN THIS CITY WHERE 26% OF THE POPULATION,
10:47:26AM THEY ARE TRYING TO DEPOPULATE US, GIVE US VOUCHERS TO GO IN
10:47:31AM LIVE IN OTHER PLACES THAT BLACK PEOPLE HAVE NEVER SEEN.
10:47:34AM DOING ALL KIND OF IGNORANT STUFF TO AFRICAN PEOPLE AND WANT
10:47:38AM US TO ACCEPT IT.
10:47:39AM WE DON'T CARE OF YOUR HURRICANE AND SANDBAGS.
10:47:42AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:47:43AM I WANTED MR. SHELBY TO READ THE RULES BECAUSE CERTAIN
10:47:47AM COUNCILMEMBERS DID TALK ABOUT THAT.
10:47:49AM PLEASE READ THE RULES BECAUSE I DON'T -- DON'T WANT THE --
10:47:56AM THE CHAIRMAN SETS THE PACE OF THE COUNCIL AND I WILL MAKE --
10:48:00AM SOME COUNCILMEMBERS ASKED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:48:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT WAS HEARD.
10:48:05AM THE AGENDA ITEM THAT THE CHIEF OF STAFF WANTED TO BRING ON
10:48:08AM DURING CEREMONIAL AND PRESENTATION.
10:48:11AM AND I AGREED WITH HIM.
10:48:12AM SO WE ALREADY HEARD HOW OBNOXIOUS I AM.
10:48:17AM SO THAT -- THAT IS FINE, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:48:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT, I WANT THE PUBLIC
10:48:23AM TO KNOW THERE IS A SCHEDULE AND YOU ARE THE CHAIRMAN.
10:48:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE LONGER WE TALK ABOUT THIS, THE MORE TIME
10:48:29AM WE ARE WASTING FOR THE PUBLIC.
10:48:31AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALSO MR. CHAIRMAN -- MR. DANIELS, I RECALL
10:48:35AM BACK IN 2019 YOU BROUGHT UP REPARATIONS, I REMEMBER I HAD MY
10:48:38AM AIDE COME WITH THE WEBSTER DICTIONARY AND SPOKE WITH
10:48:43AM REPARATIONS.
10:48:43AM REPARATIONS HAVE BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT, SIR.
10:48:46AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:48:47AM >> SURE HARD TO FOLLOW THAT.
10:48:53AM DO I HAVE -- MY NAME IS KEN WISE.
10:48:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, PLEASE, GAVE US YOUR NAME.
10:49:01AM >> I LIVE --
10:49:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WAS YOUR NAME?
10:49:05AM >> KEN WISE.
10:49:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:49:07AM >> YOU HAD THE PERSON TALKING ABOUT HOW THE HURRICANE WENT
10:49:10AM AND ALL THAT.
10:49:11AM A LOT ON SANDBAGS.
10:49:13AM HE EVEN MENTIONED IT.
10:49:15AM AND MY ISSUE IS TREES.
10:49:17AM I LIKE TREES.
10:49:19AM TREES ARE GOOD.
10:49:20AM WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM.
10:49:22AM YOU HAVE A TREE HUGGING DEPARTMENT.
10:49:26AM AND YOU HAVE A HEAD TREE HUGGER WHO IS AN ARBORIST.
10:49:32AM AND IF THE TREES THAT WE HAVE THAT MAKE UP THE CANOPY IN
10:49:36AM THIS TOWN WERE BEING RUN BY A PRIVATE COMPANY TO HARVEST THE
10:49:42AM LUMBER, ALL THE TREES HAVE LONG PAST THEIR HARVEST DATE.
10:49:47AM WE DODGED A BULLET ON THIS ONE.
10:49:49AM WE DODGED A BULLET FIVE YEARS AGO.
10:49:51AM WE MIGHT NOT BE THAT LUCKY THE NEXT TIME.
10:49:54AM IF WE GET A HURRICANE COME RIGHT UP TAMPA WITH
10:49:59AM 150-MILE-PER-HOUR SUSTAINED WINDS, IT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE
10:50:03AM A TORNADO WENT THROUGH AN IDAHO CORNFIELD.
10:50:09AM YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE TREES GOING OVER HOUSES,
10:50:13AM POWER LINES.
10:50:13AM IT WILL BE LIKE PUERTO RICO BEING OUT FOR MONTHS WITHOUT
10:50:19AM POWER AND ALL THE HOUSES.
10:50:21AM PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO BE WORRIED ABOUT WATER COMING
10:50:24AM UNDERNEATH THE DOORJAMB WHEN THEIR WHOLE HOUSE HAS BEEN
10:50:28AM TAKEN OUT BY A TREE THAT YOU WON'T LET THEM CUT DOWN.
10:50:31AM I SUGGEST WHAT YOU DO IS YOU GET WITH THE TREE HUGGING
10:50:38AM DEPARTMENT AND SAY, HEY, THESE ARE ALL WATER OAKS THAT ARE
10:50:41AM PAST THEIR DUE DATE.
10:50:42AM WATER OAKS ARE GOOD FOR 7000 YEARS, LONG PAST THAT.
10:50:48AM SAY WE HAVE GOT TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NOT TO
10:50:51AM KEEP THE TREES UP BUT TO CUT THEM DOWN.
10:50:53AM YOU CAN ALWAYS PLANT NEW TREES.
10:50:58AM BUT WE ARE LUCKY THE NEXT HURRICANE COMES THROUGH, IF IT
10:51:01AM COMES THROUGH AND GOES RIGHT THROUGH TAMPA, IT WILL DESTROY
10:51:05AM THIS CITY.
10:51:08AM THAT'S IT.
10:51:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:51:13AM >> HI, MY NAME IS DAVE COLEMAN.
10:51:22AM TOPIC IS ON TRAFFIC AND HURRICANES, ECO AND CLIMATE CHANGE IS
10:51:28AM ALL MY THING.
10:51:28AM BUT NOT WHAT I CAME TO TALK ABOUT.
10:51:30AM I HAVE TO THANK YOU FOR SAYING PREPARATION, DISASTER
10:51:34AM RESILIENCE IS ONE THING AFTER THE FACT.
10:51:37AM BUT PREPARATION, WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR IS SOMETHING THAT
10:51:40AM THE CITY NEEDS TO DO AND THOSE COAL ASH PILES AND GYPSUM
10:51:45AM STACKS WITH A 15-FOOT SURGE WOULD HAVE INUNDATED PROGRESS
10:51:50AM VILLAGE.
10:51:50AM WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY FREAKING HORRIBLE.
10:51:52AM WHAT I CAME TO TALK ABOUT -- I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS
10:51:56AM ORGANIZING AROUND THE CAHOOTS PROGRAM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO
10:51:58AM SEE BUT A SOCIAL RIDE-ALONG.
10:52:01AM THE SOCIAL RIDE-ALONG WORKER PROGRAM THAT IS UP FOR
10:52:04AM DISCUSSION I BELIEVE FOR TODAY.
10:52:05AM IS THAT RIGHT?
10:52:09AM YES.
10:52:09AM SO IT SEEMS TO BE -- SEEMS TO BE CUT IN HALF.
10:52:12AM I WROTE A THING, BUT I AM JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT.
10:52:15AM I HAVE BEEN ATTENDING AS WELL AS SOME OF YOU HAVE, THE GUN
10:52:18AM -- THE STOP GUN VIOLENCE LISTENING SESSIONS STARTED BY CHIEF
10:52:23AM DELGADO AND CONTINUED BY MARY O'CONNOR.
10:52:26AM AT HER FIRST ONE, SHE ANNOUNCED THAT -- THAT THE INCREASED
10:52:32AM GUN VIOLENCE IN TAMPA WAS DUE TO TRAUMA.
10:52:35AM THE TRAUMA OF TWO YEARS OF COVID AND TWO YEARS OF CIVIL
10:52:40AM UNREST.
10:52:42AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SENTENCE MEANS, BUT THAT IS EXACTLY
10:52:45AM WHAT SHE SAYS.
10:52:46AM BUT OBVIOUSLY THOSE WOULD BE SOCIAL ISSUES, NOT A LITIGATING
10:52:51AM AND POLICE ISSUE.
10:52:52AM THE CAHOOTS PROGRAM THAT WAS BEGUN IN EUGENE IS -- IS A
10:52:57AM FORMAT THAT ALREADY EXISTS.
10:52:59AM I ASKED AT THAT MEETING THAT CHIEF O'CONNOR WENT TO AT THE
10:53:05AM FIRST MEETING SAYING ANYTHING LIKE A CAHOOTS PROGRAM GOING
10:53:09AM ON I WASN'T AWARE AND APPARENTLY IT WAS GOING ON FOR SIX
10:53:13AM MONTHS AND DEFERRED TO AN ASSISTANT CHIEF AND TO AN OFFICER
10:53:17AM AND YES THE PROGRAM IS WORKING AND HE SAID I HAVE REALLY
10:53:20AM GOOD RESULTS AND KNAVE ANECDOTES IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:53:23AM HE SAID IT IS WORKING.
10:53:25AM BUT SUBSEQUENTLY AT ANOTHER GUN VIOLENCE EVENT, I ASKED HOW
10:53:30AM IS IT GOING.
10:53:31AM HE SAID WE ARE NOT DOING MUCH.
10:53:33AM WE ARE DESIGNING OUR OWN PROGRAM.
10:53:34AM WE ARE NOT COPYING WHAT THEY ARE DO?
10:53:37AM ST. PETE.
10:53:37AM NOT COPYING WHAT THEY DID IN EUGENE THAT SAVING POLICE
10:53:44AM DEPARTMENTS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND OBVIOUSLY
10:53:46AM LIVES ALSO.
10:53:47AM MY WHOLE IDEA IS -- THE REASON FOR BEING HERE IS THAT, YOU
10:53:50AM KNOW, SOCIAL JUSTICE AND THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO IS --
10:53:56AM HERE IS THE THING.
10:53:56AM O'CONNOR KEEPS ASKING FOR THE COMMUNITY TO TRUST HER, TO
10:54:00AM TRUST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:54:01AM IF WE SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.
10:54:04AM WELL, SHE NEEDS TO NOT DEMAND TRUST FROM US BUT MAYBE TURN
10:54:08AM IT AROUND AND -- AND SHOW US SOMETHING.
10:54:13AM WHAT ABOUT -- ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED TO GIVE THE
10:54:16AM CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD A LAWYER.
10:54:18AM ONE THING WOULD BE NOT TAKE AWAY HALF THE MONEY OF THIS
10:54:22AM CAHOOTS PROGRAM AND INCREASE THE MONEY FOR THE CAHOOTS
10:54:25AM PROGRAM.
10:54:25AM DOUBLE IT.
10:54:26AM GET SOCIAL WORKERS OUT THERE.
10:54:28AM THIS IS THE BEGINNING HAVING SOCIAL WORKERS RIDE WITH POLICE
10:54:33AM OFFICERS.
10:54:33AM WE IN MY COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOCIAL WORKERS GO OUT
10:54:37AM ON THEIR OWN AS THE CAHOOTS PROGRAM WAS.
10:54:39AM IF YOU DO A LITTLE RESEARCH AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS ABOUT,
10:54:43AM IT --
10:54:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:54:44AM >> WE NEED TO NOT LITIGATE AGAINST SOCIAL AND MENTAL HEALTH
10:54:48AM PROBLEMS.
10:54:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. COLEMAN.
10:54:50AM WE ALL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:54:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:54:57AM MY NAME IS FRANK TRAINOR.
10:54:59AM I AM A CURRENT RESIDENT OF WEST TAMPA, AND I COME FROM A
10:55:03AM LONG LINE OF WEST TAMPA NATIVES ALL THE WAY THROUGH MY GREAT
10:55:08AM GRANDPARENTS.
10:55:08AM I AM ONE OF THE GUYS PROUD OF THE CULTURE AND CHARACTER AND
10:55:11AM TRADITIONS OF WEST TAMPA.
10:55:14AM ONE OF THOSE LONG-TIME TRADITIONS HAVE BEEN THREATENED AND I
10:55:18AM AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY, AND WHY NOW.
10:55:20AM THIS PAST SUNDAY BEFORE THE CHIEFS GAME -- I LIVE BY THE
10:55:25AM STADIUM, THIS PAST SUNDAY BEFORE THE CHIEFS GAME,
10:55:28AM REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PARKING DIVISION WERE GOING
10:55:30AM THROUGHOUT THE STREETS AND GIVING OUT THESE PREPRINTED
10:55:34AM WARNINGS FOR PARKING IN A CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:55:36AM AND I WAS TOLD THAT FOUR CARS IN MY YARD, IN MY HOUSE
10:55:44AM WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PARK THERE.
10:55:45AM AND EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE CLEARLY IN MY DRIVEWAY FOUR FEET
10:55:49AM FROM THE STREET, CLEARLY.
10:55:50AM THEY ARE NOT EVEN IN THE STREET.
10:55:52AM AND I WAS TOLD TO IMAGINE THAT THERE WAS A SIDEWALK THERE.
10:55:57AM BUT THERE IS NO SIDEWALKS.
10:55:58AM THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS ANYWHERE NEAR.
10:56:01AM IF THERE WERE SIDEWALKS IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY.
10:56:03AM IT WOULD BE OKAY.
10:56:04AM I WOULD ABIDE.
10:56:05AM NO PROBLEM.
10:56:06AM AND SO WILL A LOT OF THE OTHER RESIDENTS.
10:56:08AM I WOULD LIKE TO REFERENCE AN ARTICLE IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES
10:56:12AM FROM 2021.
10:56:13AM CALLED MY TAMPA, MY WEST TAMPA YARD IS YOUR PARKING SPACE.
10:56:18AM IN THIS ARTICLE, IT SAYS FOR AS LONG AS THERE HAVE BEEN BUCS
10:56:21AM IN A STADIUM FOR THEM TO PLAY IN, WEST TAMPA HAS BEEN A PART
10:56:25AM OF A GRASS-ROOTS ENTREPRENEURIAL ENTERPRISE BLESSED LONG AGO
10:56:30AM BY CITY OFFICIALS.
10:56:31AM HOMES IN WEST TAMPA NEAR RAYMOND JAMES HAVE LONG AND LEGALLY
10:56:35AM SOLD PARKING SPACES FOR BUCCANEER GAMES.
10:56:37AM I LIVED ON AILEEN STREET FOR SEVEN YEARS AN ENJOYED THIS
10:56:41AM PARKING TRADITION WITH MY NEIGHBORS.
10:56:45AM MANY HAVE BEEN SINCE THE '60s AND SINCE THE BUCS.
10:56:49AM THEY LIVE FOR THIS.
10:56:50AM THEY PUT THEIR VESTS ON AND MAKE THEIR SIGNS WHICH ARE
10:56:54AM TERRIBLE AN AMAZING AT THE SAME TIME.
10:56:56AM THEY MAKE AND TAKE TURNS WAVING CARS IN AND THIS HE MAKE
10:56:59AM THEIR MONEY.
10:57:00AM THEY USE IT FOR BUYING CHRISTMAS GIFTS, BUYING MONEY FOR
10:57:03AM THEIR GRANDKIDS, MEDICINE OR WHATEVER.
10:57:05AM BUT A NICE CHUNK OF CHANGE THEY WILL LOSE BECAUSE OF THIS
10:57:08AM POLICY.
10:57:09AM AGAIN WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME WITH NO
10:57:11AM PROBLEMS.
10:57:12AM LET'S NOT FORGET THE SACRIFICES THESE RESIDENTS MAKE LIVING
10:57:16AM ACROSS THE STADIUM WITH TRASH AND ALL THIS STUFF.
10:57:19AM AGAIN WE HAD SUPER BOWLS, BIG EVENTS.
10:57:22AM NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS.
10:57:23AM THIS IS A LOCAL TRADITION THAT ADDS TO THE CHARACTER OF WEST
10:57:26AM TAMPA AND ADDS TO THE GAME DAY EXPERIENCE.
10:57:28AM WALKING TO THE GAME.
10:57:30AM I HAVE MY FRIENDS OVER AND NOW I HAVE TO TELL FOUR CARS TO
10:57:33AM PARK SOMEWHERE ELSE AND I AM DONE AT MY HOUSE WE WALK TO THE
10:57:36AM GAME.
10:57:36AM GO DOWN THE SIDEWALK AND WE SEE OTHER FRIENDS THAT WE KNOW
10:57:40AM ALONG THE WAY.
10:57:41AM THAT IS WHAT WEST TAMPA IS ABOUT.
10:57:43AM THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE SAME SPOT FOR YEARS AND YEARS IN THE
10:57:46AM SAME SPOT TAILGATING.
10:57:48AM I AM ASKING YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS.
10:57:50AM WHY WE ARE DOING THIS NOW.
10:57:51AM WE NEVER HAVE PROBLEMS.
10:57:52AM WE CAN GO ELSEWHERE AND SEE THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE
10:57:55AM CITY.
10:57:55AM PLEASE LET US DO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING.
10:57:58AM IF YOU BUILD US SIDEWALKS, IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY.
10:58:00AM THANK YOU.
10:58:01AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:58:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:58:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND
10:58:06AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING THE FACTS.
10:58:08AM LET ME GO BACK -- I AM NOT TRYING TO GO BACK A MILLION
10:58:12AM YEARS, BUT I WILL GO BACK TO THE DICK GRECO ADMINISTRATION
10:58:16AM AGAIN.
10:58:16AM WHEN ALL THIS STARTED, THEY DIDN'T ALLOW ANYBODY TO PARK ON
10:58:20AM YOUR HOUSE -- ON YOUR LAND.
10:58:22AM AND WE LOOKED AT IT 25 YEARS AGO, AND AT THAT TIME, WE SAID
10:58:28AM WHAT HAPPENS, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WHEN THERE IS AN
10:58:32AM EVENT -- IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FOOTBALL GAME, WHEN THERE
10:58:35AM IS AN EVENT, NO MATTER A CONCERT OR MONSTER -- WHATEVER YOU
10:58:40AM WOULD LIKE TO CALL THEM.
10:58:41AM ALL THAT STUFF IS THERE.
10:58:42AM SO WE CAME UP THAT YOU COULD PARK ON YOUR LAND.
10:58:46AM PARK ON YOUR LAND.
10:58:48AM WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW, THEY ARE SAYING THAT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
10:58:51AM PART OF THE CITY, NOT THE STREET, BUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WHICH
10:58:54AM IS USUALLY THE POLE -- THIS IS -- AGAIN, A POLE -- ELECTRIC
10:59:00AM POLE COMPANY THAT THAT PART BETWEEN THE POLE AND THE STREET
10:59:03AM BELONGS TO THE CITY.
10:59:04AM BUT THEY DON'T TELL YOU THE OTHER SIDE, THE CITY NEVER
10:59:09AM CLEANS THAT.
10:59:09AM YOU GUYS CLEAN THAT.
10:59:11AM SO WE MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS -- AND I HAVE
10:59:15AM BEEN ON THIS NOW FOR TWO DAYS.
10:59:17AM PEOPLE ARE CALLING ME.
10:59:19AM I WENT TO SEE PEOPLE YESTERDAY.
10:59:22AM 3303, 3305 AND TALKED TO THEM AT LENGTH.
10:59:27AM I HAVE A COPY OF THAT, BUT I LEFT THAT AT THE HOUSE AND I
10:59:30AM NEED A COPY OF THAT.
10:59:31AM >> OF THE VIOLATION?
10:59:32AM YOU CAN HAVE IT.
10:59:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NEED A COPY OF IT.
10:59:35AM I DON'T KNOW WHO SENT THEM OUT THERE, BUT THEY ARE DEAD
10:59:38AM WRONG.
10:59:39AM WHAT THEY DO NOT ALLOW YOU TO DO IS PARK ON THE STREET
10:59:43AM BECAUSE THE STREETS ARE SO NARROW THAT A FIRE TRUCK AND
10:59:47AM AMBULANCE CANNOT GET BY.
10:59:48AM THAT I UNDERSTAND.
10:59:49AM BUT ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE ALL
10:59:54AM OF YOU WHO LIVE THERE, INCLUDING MYSELF, ARE DEPRIVED OF
10:59:58AM USING YOUR OWN CITY STREETS, YOUR OWN OPERATION, YOUR
11:00:01AM DISCOMFORT.
11:00:02AM WHEN I COME IN FROM OLDSMAR FROM NOVEMBER TO MAY, GUESS
11:00:07AM WHAT, I CAN'T GO HOME.
11:00:08AM I CAN'T TURN ON CARGO ROAD.
11:00:12AM I CAN'T TURN ON HIMES.
11:00:13AM BECAUSE THEY DON'T LET ME MAKE A LEFT-HAND TURN ON HIMES
11:00:17AM AND MLK.
11:00:18AM I NEED TO GO BACK TO DALE MABRY, ALL THE WAY TO SPRUCE, GO
11:00:22AM ALL THE WAY AROUND, COME BACK THERE TO GET TO MY HOUSE.
11:00:25AM OR GO ALL THE WAY TO ARMENIA TO COME AROUND -- YOU HAVE BEEN
11:00:29AM TAKING CARE OF THAT FOR A LONG TIME.
11:00:31AM ALL THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:00:33AM AND NOW THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO USE IT.
11:00:35AM THAT WAS DONE TO ELIMINATE THE STRESS THAT THE PEOPLE --
11:00:39AM BECAUSE ANY TIME THERE IS AN EVENT OF SOME SORT THAT DRAWS
11:00:42AM THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, YOU ARE THE ONES THAT ARE DISCRIMINATED
11:00:46AM ACROSS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET TO YOUR OWN HOUSE.
11:00:48AM THAT IS WHY WE DID THAT.
11:00:50AM AND I AM SURE GRECO WOULD COME HERE AND SAY EXACTLY WHAT
11:00:54AM HAPPENED.
11:00:54AM I DON'T KNOW WHO GAVE THAT ORDER.
11:00:57AM I PROMISE YOU -- THEY DIDN'T DO IT ON THEIR OWN.
11:00:59AM >> HE TOLD ME IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ANOTHER 15 FEET IN.
11:01:03AM >> THAT IS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:01:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM TRYING TO TELL YOU I DON'T KNOW WHO
11:01:07AM THE EINSTEIN WHO DID THAT BUT THE BRAIN THE SIZE OF AN ANT.
11:01:11AM >> I HEAR IT WAS A NONRESIDENT WHO COMPLAINED.
11:01:14AM QUICKLY ONE ISSUE -- OF ALL THE TIMES I HAVE BEEN ON THE
11:01:17AM BLOCK, ONE ISSUE WHERE A CAR WAS PARKED ON THE STREET AND WE
11:01:21AM NEVER WOULD SEE THAT.
11:01:23AM I CALLED THE CITY TO SEE -- I CALLED THE CITY BECAUSE --
11:01:26AM THAT ONE CAR WAS IMPEDING WALKING TRAFFIC IN THE STREET.
11:01:29AM AND THEY SAID THEY COULD DO NOTHING ABOUT IT.
11:01:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS AN UPROAR THAT STARTED OVER
11:01:34AM NOTHING AND HAS BEEN LIKE THAT FOR 25 YEARS.
11:01:36AM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY WANT TO DO THAT BUT DON'T GO AFTER
11:01:40AM THE AISLE LEGAL HOUSES -- FOUR APARTMENTS IN THEM.
11:01:43AM YOU CAN'T GET IN YOUR HELP BECAUSE OF THAT.
11:01:45AM BUT DON'T GO AFTER THOSE, GO AFTER THE LITTLE GUY WHO THEY
11:01:49AM CAN PICK ON.
11:01:50AM >> I'M HERE FOR ALL THE OLDER RESIDENTS WHO COULDN'T BE
11:01:53AM HERE.
11:01:54AM THANK YOU.
11:01:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT COPIES OF THAT FOR THE COUNCIL.
11:01:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:02:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:02:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST TO FOLLOW-UP ON WHAT COUNCILMAN
11:02:06AM MIRANDA SAID.
11:02:07AM I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS THROUGH MR. NOVEMBERO WHO WILL BE
11:02:12AM COMING UP TO SPEAKS.
11:02:14AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:02:15AM MR. NOVO.
11:02:17AM I HEARD THAT THE INDIVIDUAL GOING OUT ISSUING THE WARNING
11:02:21AM SEVERAL WEEKS AGO SAID THIS IS YOUR CITY COUNCILMAN WHO DID
11:02:26AM THIS.
11:02:26AM I DIDN'T DO THIS.
11:02:27AM I DO PAY ATTENTION.
11:02:29AM I KNOW WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING UP HERE.
11:02:31AM THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME WAS EDGAR, I COME TO FIND OUT.
11:02:34AM I TALKED TO VIK UP IN PARKING AND WHAT HE SAID THIS WAS A --
11:02:38AM A DEPARTMENTAL DECISION.
11:02:40AM IT DIDN'T COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
11:02:41AM WE DIDN'T MAKE THIS DECISION TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
11:02:44AM THEY TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES AFTER RECEIVING SOME
11:02:47AM COMPLAINTS, BUT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS BEEN IN THAT
11:02:50AM NEIGHBORHOOD 60 YEARS.
11:02:51AM YOU KNOW, NOBODY KNOWS IT BETTER THAN HIM.
11:02:55AM YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO EARN A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY ON
11:02:58AM THEIR PROPERTY.
11:02:58AM AS HE SAID, ON PARCELS THAT ARE USED DURING GAMES AND
11:03:02AM EVENTS.
11:03:02AM NOT A DAILY OCCURRENCE THAT THE PEOPLE ARE TAKEN CARE OF.
11:03:06AM NOT THE CITY COMING OUT AND MOWING THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
11:03:11AM PEOPLE ARE TAKING CARE OF THAT AND EARNING MONEY ON
11:03:15AM SATURDAYS AND SUNDAY WHATEVER THE GAME -- WHATEVER THE EVENT
11:03:19AM AND A WEST TAMPA TRADITION IN MY OPINION AS FAR AS I KNOW.
11:03:21AM ALWAYS HAVE BEEN ON THAT IN FEW DAYS.
11:03:24AM NOT A CITY COUNCIL -- I CALL FOR CLARITY AND WE ARE GETTING
11:03:28AM INUNDATED WITH PHONE CALLS BASED ON THIS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
11:03:32AM LOSING FOUR, FIVE, SIX CARS.
11:03:33AM $10 A CAR -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRICE IS.
11:03:37AM A LOT OF MONEY AND IT ADDS UP.
11:03:39AM I KNOW COUNCILMAN GUDES ASKED FOR A COPY OF THAT CITATION
11:03:43AM AND MIRANDA AS WELL.
11:03:44AM AND WE WILL CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT IT BECAUSE I DON'T
11:03:47AM THINK IT IS RIGHT.
11:03:48AM THANK YOU.
11:03:48AM >> HI, OMAR GARCIA.
11:03:52AM 1041 RURAL PASS.
11:03:56AM I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW OF A SITUATION THAT HAPPENED TO
11:04:01AM US DURING THE DISASTER RECOVERY.
11:04:02AM I HAPPEN TO OWN A BOX TRUCK AND WE STARTED RECOVERY EFFORTS
11:04:06AM ON THURSDAY.
11:04:07AM AND I TOLD MY GUYS, LET'S MAKE SURE WE ARE IN LINE EARLY ON
11:04:11AM McKAY BAY FRIDAY 6:00 AS SOON AS WE OPEN UP TO GO BACK AND
11:04:15AM MAKE A COUPLE OF RUNS THAT DAY.
11:04:17AM WE FOUND OUT THAT THE -- THAT THE -- THE McKAY BAY WEIGH
11:04:22AM SCALE LOCATION WAS ACTUALLY CLOSED UNTIL MONDAY.
11:04:27AM NORMALLY THEY HAVE OPERATION HOURS ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
11:04:31AM AND THEY DIDN'T REOPEN AGAIN UNTIL MONDAY.
11:04:34AM OBVIOUSLY OUR TRUCK WAS FULL WE COULDN'T CONTINUE WITH OUR
11:04:37AM POST RECOVERY EFFORTS.
11:04:39AM SO JUST -- I WANTED TO -- I KNOW THAT STAFF AND CITY STAFF
11:04:46AM WAS PRETTY TAXED IN TERMS OF PERSONNEL DURING THESE TIMES,
11:04:50AM BUT WHEN WE DO CLOSE McKAY BAY ON A POST EVENT LIKE THIS, IT
11:04:54AM DOES SLOW DOWN RECOVERY EFFORTS AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
11:04:57AM SHOULD JUST BE CONSIDERED TO KEEP THE -- THE DUMP OPEN
11:05:02AM REGULAR HOURS IF NOT EVEN EXTENDED HOURS DURING THE TIME TO
11:05:06AM SPEED THINGS UP.
11:05:07AM THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
11:05:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:05:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SIR, I DO BELIEVE -- SOMEONE FROM STAFF CAN
11:05:15AM CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THEY SHUT DOWN McKAY BAY
11:05:18AM BECAUSE IT IS -- IT IS RUN BY ELECTRICITY -- I DON'T KNOW,
11:05:24AM SOME TYPE OF ENERGY.
11:05:25AM A WASTE ENERGY PLANT.
11:05:27AM I KNOW THEY SHUT DOWN AND TURBINES AND ENGINES TAKE TIME TO
11:05:32AM START UP AGAIN, SO I KNOW PART OF IT WAS THAT.
11:05:36AM BUT THAT IS A GOOD POINT.
11:05:38AM I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE CAN SPEAK ON THAT, BUT -- BUT I AM
11:05:44AM MAKING A NOTE OF THAT.
11:05:45AM WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT DISASTER.
11:05:48AM THANK YOU.
11:05:48AM I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE
11:05:52AM REASON.
11:05:52AM >> THEY DIDN'T GIVE US ANY KIND OF EXPLANATION AND I KNOW
11:05:55AM TRUCKS BACKED UP FOR QUITE A BIT.
11:05:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:05:58AM >> SLOWED US DOWN.
11:06:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: APPRECIATE IT.
11:06:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:06:07AM MANUAL NOVO.
11:06:10AM LONG-TIME RESIDENT 3314 WESTER LEROY STREET.
11:06:14AM BORN AND RAISED THERE PARKING CARS MY WHOLE LIFE.
11:06:16AM NOW WE ARE PART OF SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT.
11:06:18AM SO I GOT A COUPLE OF PICTURES -- CAN I PUT PICTURES --
11:06:23AM EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS RIGHT DOWN HERE.
11:06:25AM WE HAVE PARKING EVERY SINGLE DAY ON SIDEWALKS AND EASEMENTS.
11:06:29AM NO TICKETS.
11:06:30AM THEY LET THEM DO IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
11:06:32AM ANOTHER PICTURE, SAME THING, SELECTIVE PARKING.
11:06:37AM WEST COMPANY SANDWICH SHOP.
11:06:39AM ANOTHER ONE.
11:06:40AM I CAN'T SEE COME OUT OF DOUGLAS STREET, I CAN'T SEE WHO IS
11:06:44AM COMING TO THE LEFT.
11:06:45AM EVERY CAR IS PARKED ON THE EASEMENT.
11:06:47AM ALL THIS IS BROUGHT UP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
11:06:49AM MEETING FOR THE LAST FOUR TO FIVE YEARS.
11:06:51AM WE SPEAK WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE PARKING DEPARTMENT.
11:06:54AM NOTHING EVER HAPPENS.
11:06:55AM I GOT ANOTHER PICTURE HERE.
11:06:58AM ANOTHER -- GLEN AVENUE.
11:06:59AM LET'S USE THAT SIDEWALK.
11:07:00AM DUMP THAT TRASH.
11:07:02AM USE THAT SIDEWALK TO PARK OUR CARS.
11:07:05AM ST. CONRAD -- SORRY, I WILL TURN IT AROUND FOR YOU ALL.
11:07:09AM ST. CONRAD BETWEEN GLEN AND LINCOLN.
11:07:12AM MY DAUGHTER CANNOT RIDE ON THE SIDEWALK SAFELY BECAUSE EVERY
11:07:16AM SINGLE DAY CARS PARKED ON THE EASEMENT.
11:07:19AM IT IS OKAY TO TICKET ME AND MY PERSONAL VEHICLE ON GAME DAY
11:07:23AM WHEN I AM PARKED IN THE DRIVEWAY.
11:07:25AM MY PERSONAL VEHICLE GETS TICKETED.
11:07:27AM LIKE GUIDO MANISCALCO SAID, THEY TOLD ME IT WAS OUR
11:07:34AM COUNCILMAN BEHIND ALL THIS.
11:07:35AM NOT SAYING WHO THE COMPLAINT PERSON, BUT THE COUNCILMAN --
11:07:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DO YOU HAVE A NAME OF THAT PERSON?
11:07:42AM >> EDGAR.
11:07:42AM I CALLED THE DIVISION AND ALL OF THEM.
11:07:45AM THEY SAID THEY WILL KEEP DOING IT AND OUT THERE ON SUNDAY
11:07:48AM AND THEY HAVE ALREADY GIVEN OUT TICKETS AND BEGUN ALL THAT.
11:07:51AM HERE IS A PICTURE WITH NO CARS.
11:07:52AM SO WE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE THIS BUSINESS USE THAT WHOLE
11:07:55AM SIDEWALK FOR YOUR VEHICLES.
11:07:57AM NO PARKING SIGNS.
11:07:59AM WE ARE PARKING BEHIND THE NO PARKING SIGNS.
11:08:03AM NO TICKETS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
11:08:04AM HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE HOMES.
11:08:06AM I CALLED THE PARKING DIVISION, THEY TOLD ME PARK MY CAR
11:08:11AM BEHIND THE MAILBOX, YOU ARE OKAY.
11:08:13AM ALL RIGHT.
11:08:14AM THEY SAID PARK BEHIND THE NO PARKING SIGNS.
11:08:16AM YOU ARE OKAY.
11:08:17AM I GOT ANSWERS FROM EVERYBODY DIFFERENT.
11:08:19AM NOW THEY ARE TELLING US YOU NEED TO KEEP OUR CARS BEHIND
11:08:23AM THIS LINE.
11:08:24AM NO CARS ON THIS GRASS THAT WE MAINTAIN AND TAKE CARE OF.
11:08:28AM UNREAL.
11:08:28AM UNREAL.
11:08:29AM LITERALLY MY PERSONAL VEHICLE GOT A WARNING -- ON MY
11:08:33AM PERSONAL VEHICLE IN MY DRIVEWAY.
11:08:35AM I PARK THREE CARS.
11:08:36AM THIS DOESN'T EFFECT ME.
11:08:37AM I AM WORRY -- MY NEIGHBOR -- SHE IS 90 YEARS OLD AND USE IT
11:08:41AM IS TO FIX HER CAR AND HOUSE.
11:08:43AM NOT FOR ME, IT IS FOR THEM.
11:08:45AM THAT'S IT.
11:08:45AM THAT'S ALL I GOT.
11:08:47AM 20 SECONDS LEFT?
11:08:50AM NO?
11:08:51AM ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU.
11:08:52AM AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
11:08:54AM YOU GUYS WANT THESE PHOTOS?
11:08:57AM WOULD YOU LIKE ALL THIS RIGHT HERE?
11:09:12AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
11:09:14AM ANY NAME IS ALBERT PACHECO.
11:09:16AM I LIVED IN TAMPA FLORIDA SINCE 1969.
11:09:19AM I AM A GRADUATE OF PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
11:09:21AM AND ALL I WANTED TO SAY IS TO TALK ABOUT THE PARKING ISSUE
11:09:27AM DURING RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM EVENTS.
11:09:30AM WE DO A SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA BY PARKING THESE CARS
11:09:36AM IN OUR -- IN OUR HOUSES.
11:09:39AM WE ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC.
11:09:41AM WE HOPE THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
11:09:45AM WE KEEP OUR EYES OPEN FOR ANYTHING GOING ON DURING THESE
11:09:49AM EVENTS.
11:09:49AM AND THESE GENTLEMEN WERE TALKING OF THE PARKING SITUATION.
11:09:56AM THEY SAY WE ARE GOING TO BE CITED IF WE PARK CARS IN THE
11:10:02AM PARKING -- IN THE CITY -- WHATEVER THEY CALL THAT AREA 15
11:10:07AM FEET FROM THE STREET.
11:10:08AM I JUST WANTED TO KNOW -- AND, YOU KNOW, JUST -- JUST TO LET
11:10:15AM YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE.
11:10:17AM THEY HAVE THIS SIGN THAT SAYS WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK
11:10:21AM THERE ANYMORE AND I WANTED TO SEE IF THAT WAS CORRECT.
11:10:25AM OF ELIMINATING FIVE CAR SPACES, TALKING OF CAR SPACES.
11:10:33AM THEY ARE OVER 200 HOUSES THAT PROVIDE PARKING FOR THIS --
11:10:38AM THIS STADIUM EVENT AND OVER 1,000 CARS.
11:10:45AM YOU CAN IMAGINE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR PARKING.
11:10:47AM AND THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
11:10:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: CAN I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION?
11:10:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:10:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: ARE YOU RELATED TO FELIPE PACHECO.
11:11:02AM DID YOU KNOW A FELIPE?
11:11:07AM >> BUT A DISTANT COUSIN OF FREDDIE PACHECO.
11:11:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: DISREGARD.
11:11:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU REMEMBER -- LA PACHECO.
11:11:20AM >> I DON'T KNOW.
11:11:20AM BUT I HAVE BEEN TO YBOR CITY A LOT.
11:11:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COLUMBUS DRIVE AND 16th I BELIEVE IT WAS.
11:11:25AM WHERE FREDDIE GOT HIS -- LEARNING HOW TO BECOME A PHARMACIST
11:11:29AM AND A DOCTOR.
11:11:30AM >> YES, MUHAMMED ALI'S FIGHT.
11:11:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT -- I JUST DON'T
11:11:37AM KNOW HOW THIS HAPPENED.
11:11:38AM I GOT A NAME.
11:11:39AM BUT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS CALLED CS.
11:11:43AM COMMON SENSE.
11:11:44AM SOME PEOPLE OR SOME GOVERNMENT HAVE LOST IT -- I AM NOT
11:11:47AM SAYING THIS ONE HAS, BUT I AM SURE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
11:11:51AM THEMSELVES DIDN'T ORDER THIS.
11:11:52AM THIS WAS DONE TO COMPENSATE WHAT IS HAPPENING -- WHAT YOU
11:11:56AM GUYS HAVE -- YOUR ANXIETY LEVEL AND NOT ONLY THE GAMES OF
11:12:02AM SPORTS -- BUT ALL SPORTING EVENTS THAT ARE THERE, YOU HAVE
11:12:04AM THE ABILITY TO PARK.
11:12:05AM REALLY NOT ABOUT THE MONEY.
11:12:06AM TO COMPENSATE FOR THE LOSS THAT YOU GUYS GETTING IN AND OUT
11:12:11AM OF YOUR HOUSE.
11:12:11AM IF YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF YOUR HOUSE AND GO WEST TO HIMES AND
11:12:17AM MAKE NO TURN.
11:12:20AM NONE.
11:12:20AM YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
11:12:21AM YOU CAN'T ON MacDILL.
11:12:32AM HOW DO YOU GET HOME, PARK YOUR CAR AND WALK.
11:12:36AM >> WE TRY TO GO AROUND AND TRY TO KEEP THE ROAD AS CLEAR AS
11:12:39AM POSSIBLE.
11:12:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT WE DID AND THE GRECO ADMINISTRATION
11:12:43AM SAID PARK ON YOUR STREET I DON'T THINK YOU DON'T PARK THE
11:12:46AM CARS ON A PAVEMENT WHERE AN AMBULANCE OR FIRE TRUCK NEEDS TO
11:12:50AM BE THERE FOR EMERGENCY CAN PASS.
11:12:52AM THAT IS WHAT WE DID.
11:12:54AM IT HAS BEEN WORKING BEAUTIFULLY AND EINSTEIN CAME IN AND DID
11:12:59AM WHATEVER THEY DID.
11:12:59AM I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT EINSTEIN IS BUT CERTAINLY DIDN'T HELP
11:13:02AM THE CAUSE.
11:13:03AM YOU CAN NOT LOOK AT IT IN A MONEYMAKING THING OF WHAT YOU
11:13:13AM FELLAS LOST.
11:13:14AM YOU DIDN'T HAVE A NORMAL LIFE WHEN YOU HAVE AN EVENT.
11:13:17AM IF PEOPLE TELL ME OF PARKING PROBLEMS IN THE CITY, TELL THEM
11:13:20AM ALL THE TIME.
11:13:21AM GO TO WEST TAMPA AND DO AN EVENT.
11:13:23AM I WILL SHOW YOU PARKING PROBLEM.
11:13:26AM YOU CAN'T GO NOWHERE.
11:13:27AM THEY DON'T LET YOU OUT.
11:13:28AM YOU ARE CAPTURED IN YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN JAIL FOR A
11:13:31AM CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOURS.
11:13:33AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:13:33AM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
11:13:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:13:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:13:42AM BRIAN ROSELLO, AND I AM REPRESENTING THE NEIGHBORHOODS SOUTH
11:13:47AM OF COLUMBUS DRIVE AND ONE BLOCK EAST OF HIMES.
11:13:52AM AND IT IS ABOUT THIS PARKING ISSUE.
11:13:54AM THAT IS GOING ON THROUGH THE GAMES.
11:13:58AM US RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN PARKING OVER TWO DECADES.
11:14:02AM WE DO PARK ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:14:05AM WE -- DON'T LET A BUNCH OF BAD APPLES WHO PARK PARTIALLY IN
11:14:14AM THE STREET RUIN IT FOR US.
11:14:15AM WE KEEP IT THREE AND A HALF FEET OFF THE STREET.
11:14:18AM A LOT OF -- LET ME SEE HERE.
11:14:19AM PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOING IT CORRECTLY.
11:14:21AM WE CLEAN UP THE TRASH, AS WELL AS MAINTAIN THE TREES AND CUT
11:14:25AM THE GRASS ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:14:27AM A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE FRONT YARDS.
11:14:30AM WE HAVE FENCED IN FRONT YARDS AND FENCED IN BACKYARDS TO
11:14:34AM PREVENT DEATH OR -- THEFT, EXCUSE ME.
11:14:37AM THE RESIDENTS PARK THEMSELVES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN FRONT
11:14:43AM OF THEIR OWN HOMES EVERY NIGHT, EVERY DAY, EVEN DURING
11:14:46AM EVENTS.
11:14:47AM WE ALSO HAVE VISITORS THAT COME.
11:14:49AM AND WE ALSO DO PARK FOR THE EVENTS TO MAKE EXTRA MONEY.
11:14:52AM PART OF IT TO PAY HOMEOWNER INSURANCE AND EVER-INCREASING
11:14:58AM PROPERTY TAXES -- THE PROPERTY TAXES I HEAR FROM ELDERLY,
11:15:04AM THEY PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAXES WITH IT AND PARTIALLY PAYING
11:15:07AM THEIR EVER -INCREASING HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE.
11:15:10AM ELDERLY CITIZENS I HAVE TELL ME ABOUT IT IS ESPECIALLY
11:15:18AM CONCERNED ESPECIALLY WITH A BAD AS THE ECONOMY IS.
11:15:22AM THE WARNINGS AND VIOLATIONS WENT OUT LAST WEEK.
11:15:24AM THE FIRST TIME EVER -- I HAVE BEEN PERSONALLY PARKING.
11:15:28AM 21, 22 YEARS.
11:15:30AM THIRD-GENERATION TAMPANIAN.
11:15:34AM MY GRANDPARENTS SAID DALE MABRY WAS A DIRT ROAD COMING AND
11:15:41AM GOING.
11:15:41AM ALL I ASK AND PEOPLE ASK THAT THIS COMING WEEKEND TO PLEASE
11:15:47AM PULL OUT THE ENFORCEMENT.
11:15:48AM AND IT IS A TRADITION AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ON FIXED INCOME DO
11:15:54AM DEPEND ON THIS MONDAY AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
11:15:56AM 98% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING PARK LEGAL.
11:15:59AM WHY?
11:16:00AM BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS AND THEY WANT THE
11:16:02AM TRADITION TO KEEP GOING.
11:16:03AM YOU HAVE A FEW BAD APPLES THAT DO PARK IN THE STREET -- HALF
11:16:08AM ON THE STREET.
11:16:09AM NOT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:16:10AM AS LONG AS YOU ARE THREE AND A HALF FEET, PULLING IN THE
11:16:13AM RIGHT DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC, AWAY FROM A STOP SIGN.
11:16:16AM AWAY FROM A TELEPHONE POLE.
11:16:18AM THESE ARE THE RULES THAT WERE TOLD TO ME BY A TRAFFIC
11:16:21AM ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO.
11:16:24AM WE JUST ASK THAT THIS WEEK TO PLEASE HOLD BACK.
11:16:29AM GAMEGOERS AND HOMEOWNERS DON'T NEED TO BE GOING THROUGH
11:16:33AM THIS.
11:16:33AM IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY PARKED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AND
11:16:36AM NOT PROPERLY IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:16:37AM GIVE THEM A TICKET.
11:16:38AM NO PROBLEM WITH THAT YOU ARE BLOCKING -- IF YOU WERE -- IF
11:16:42AM YOUR WHEELS ARE ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET, YEAH YOU ARE IN
11:16:45AM VIOLATION.
11:16:45AM BUT IF YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PARKED -- OR YOUR OWN
11:16:48AM PERSONAL PROPERTY.
11:16:49AM I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
11:16:50AM I REALLY DO.
11:16:51AM OKAY, COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:16:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
11:16:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:16:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANOTHER THING WE DID -- NOT IN
11:16:59AM ADMINISTRATION, BUT USED TO HAVE THE DITCHES IN FRONT OF
11:17:03AM WEST TAMPA.
11:17:04AM GUESS WHO CLEANED THEM, THE SAME NEIGHBORS CLEANED THEM.
11:17:07AM WE GOT SO SMART WE MADE THEM INTO Vs.
11:17:10AM YOU CAN'T GET IN, YOU CAN'T GET OUT.
11:17:13AM THE CITY HAS GOT TO CLEAN THEM AND THEY ARE NOT DOING A
11:17:17AM GREAT JOB.
11:17:19AM THANK YOU.
11:17:20AM >> APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:17:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:17:31AM MY NAME IS STEPHANIE PO WHY,NOR, RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
11:17:35AM I LIVE IN EVACUATION ZONE A, I HAVE FOUR MORE HOUSES IN
11:17:39AM EVACUATION ZONE A.
11:17:41AM WE ARE REALLY A SPECIAL BUNCH.
11:17:43AM AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT -- I HAD NO INTENTION OF TALKING
11:17:47AM ABOUT THIS.
11:17:47AM THIS IS ONE OF MY FRIENDS.
11:17:49AM SHE AND HER HUSBAND WERE BOTH DISABLED AND STANDING AT THE
11:17:54AM HIMES COMPLEX WITH ABOUT 50 OTHER PEOPLE.
11:17:56AM I DID CONTACT SOMEONE IN ADMINISTRATION AND THEY DID RESPOND
11:18:00AM AND THEY OPENED IT UP EARLY, BUT A LOT TO BE CONSIDERED IN A
11:18:04AM SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE THIS MANY PEOPLE STANDING OUT TO GET
11:18:09AM SANDBAGS IN ONE OF THE HOTTEST PLACES IN THE COUNTRY.
11:18:11AM IF THEY ARE IN THERE AT 5:30 IN THE MORNING.
11:18:15AM THEY ARE NOT STANDING OUT IN THE BAKING SUN.
11:18:17AM THEY ARE NOT -- THEY ARE NOT -- THE LONGER THEY STAND IN
11:18:23AM LINE, THE LESS THEY CAN TO DO SECURE THEIR HOMES.
11:18:26AM SO IF THOSE LINES ARE ABLE TO BE MOVING 5:30, 6:00 IN THE
11:18:31AM MORNING WHEN THE SUN COMES UP, THEN THEY CAN BE BOARDING UP
11:18:35AM THEIR HOMES AND DOING THE THINGS THEY NEED TO DO OUTSIDE.
11:18:38AM AS SOMEBODY SAID OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, IF YOU CAN
11:18:42AM PICK IT UP, PUT IT UP.
11:18:43AM THOSE PEOPLE WERE STANDING IN LINE INSTEAD OF PUTTING THINGS
11:18:46AM UP IN THEIR YARDS.
11:18:48AM I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT I DID POINT OUT.
11:18:51AM LIKE I SAID, I CONTACTED ADMINISTRATION.
11:18:54AM THEY HELPED HER GET HER CAR -- HER SANDBAGS LOADED IN HER
11:18:59AM CAR WITHIN 30 MINUTES AFTER THAT.
11:19:01AM I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT BUT A 9:00 START TIME IS GREAT
11:19:05AM FOR CITY COUNCIL BUT REALLY NOT WHEN YOU ARE IN A STATE OF
11:19:08AM EMERGENCY.
11:19:08AM SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
11:19:10AM AND I DO APPRECIATE OUR CITY STAFF.
11:19:15AM I WILL BE THE FIRST ONE TO TIP MY GARBAGEMAN BECAUSE HE
11:19:18AM SHOWED UP THE DAY BEFORE THE HURRICANE.
11:19:20AM WE HAD A LOT OF CONCERNED NEIGHBORS WE WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE
11:19:24AM GARBAGE PICK-UP AND THIS GUY BUSTED THROUGH THEIR
11:19:28AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.
11:19:29AM THEY CAME BACK THROUGH ON FRIDAY AND TOO CAN STUFF.
11:19:32AM I AM VERY, VERY HAPPY, BUT SOMETIMES IN THIS AFTER ACTION
11:19:35AM REVIEW, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS I THINK SO LIKE -- DO WE
11:19:38AM REALLY NEED TO WAIT UNTIL 9:00 TO OPEN THE DOORS?
11:19:42AM THIS IS NOT NINTENDO SWITCH.
11:19:47AM I LOVE MY TREE HUGGER FRIEND AND SHE WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT
11:19:51AM TREES.
11:19:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:19:53AM >> HI, CARROLL ANN BENNETT, LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF THE CITY
11:20:01AM OF TAMPA.
11:20:01AM I WILL -- AS STEPHANIE SAID, I WILL TALK ABOUT THE TREE AS
11:20:05AM LITTLE BIT.
11:20:05AM I WILL SAY I WAS GLUED TO THE TV EVERY WAKING HOUR LEADING
11:20:08AM UP TO IAN, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE SAID WAS THAT
11:20:14AM THE BAY IS NOW AVERAGING THREE DEGREES WARMER THAN IT USED
11:20:18AM TO.
11:20:18AM AND THEIR EXACT WORDS IS, THIS IS JET FUEL TO HURRICANES.
11:20:23AM SO THE RISE IN TEMPERATURE HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE SEVERITY
11:20:29AM OF THE STORMS.
11:20:30AM AND IF YOU LOOK ON THE INTERNET, ALL OVER THE WORLD, ONE OF
11:20:33AM THE BIGGEST, BEST SOLUTIONS IS TREES.
11:20:36AM WE HAVE TO HAVE THE TREES.
11:20:38AM THEY HAVE A HUGE IMPACT IN A LOT OF WAYS.
11:20:41AM THEY SAVE THE CITY SO MUCH MONEY.
11:20:42AM PEOPLE -- ONE THING THAT IS A PROBLEM, PEOPLE CAN'T GO OUT
11:20:48AM IN THEIR FRONT YARD AND SAY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THAT TREE
11:20:52AM WASN'T THERE.
11:20:52AM THEY CAN'T DO THAT..A LOT OF TIMES THIS HE DON'T VISUALIZE
11:20:56AM HOW A TREE HELPS THEM.
11:20:57AM IF THE TREE PREVENTS FLOODING, WHICH THEY DO.
11:21:00AM THEY CAN'T SEE THE FLOODING THAT WAS PREVENTED.THIS HE CAN'T
11:21:03AM SEE THE OXYGEN -- EXTRA OXYGEN AND THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND
11:21:09AM EFFECT.
11:21:09AM TECO DOES NEED TO TRIM THE TREES AROUND POWER LINES.
11:21:15AM SOME OF THE PEOPLE THIS HE DO IT BUTCHER THE TREE WHERE THE
11:21:19AM TREE IS GOING TO DIE.
11:21:20AM AND THAT GETS THE COMPLAINTS BECAUSE NOT BEING DONE PROPERLY
11:21:23AM OR ENOUGH.
11:21:23AM I AGREE WITH THAT.
11:21:24AM BUT WE MUST HAVE THE TREES.
11:21:27AM YOU KNOW, THEY ARE A BIG PART OF THE SOLUTION TO THE
11:21:29AM PROBLEM.
11:21:30AM I CONSIDER MYSELF AN EXPERT.
11:21:33AM MY FAMILY HAS BEEN IN THE TREE BUSINESS FOR GENERATIONS.
11:21:36AM I AM SORRY THESE LITTLE MITIGATION TREES, I KNOW ON OUR
11:21:41AM LAND, WHEN WE CUT 100 TO 150 TREES ON AN ACRE, WE ARE NOW
11:21:45AM GOING TO HAVE FLOODING ON THAT LAND EVEN THOUGH WE ARE
11:21:48AM PLANTING BACK 600 TREES PER ACRE.
11:21:51AM WE ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE FLOODING ON THAT LAND FOR YEARS
11:21:54AM WE DIDN'T HAVE PRIOR BECAUSE THOSE 600 BABY TREES DO NOT DO
11:21:58AM THE SAME WORK AS 100 MATURE TREES.
11:22:01AM IF YOU WANT THE DETAILS, I CAN TELL YOU.
11:22:03AM BUT I AM AN EXPERT ON THAT.
11:22:06AM THE OTHER THING TO TALK ABOUT REAL QUICK, THE EVACUATION.
11:22:09AM A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE CITY DID WAS GREAT.
11:22:12AM I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT.
11:22:14AM I AM CONCERNED THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T EVACUATE.
11:22:16AM I KNOW MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH MY NEIGHBORS.
11:22:19AM I LIVE IN B.
11:22:20AM MYA CULPA, I DIDN'T EVACUATE, BUT I DID IT BASED ON A LOT OF
11:22:25AM INFORMATION.
11:22:26AM WE ARE READY TO EVACUATE, BUT I SAW THAT THE WATER WAS GOING
11:22:29AM OUT OF THE BAY.
11:22:30AM I HAD A PLACE TO GO THAT WASN'T NEARBY.
11:22:32AM IT WAS A VERY INFORMED DECISION, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
11:22:35AM EVACUATED FOR IRMA SAID NEVER AGAIN.
11:22:37AM THAT IS AN ISSUE.
11:22:39AM PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW HARD IT IS TO EVACUATE.
11:22:41AM HOW MUCH MONEY IN HOTELS.
11:22:43AM HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND A PLACE.
11:22:44AM AND THIS ALL FIGURES IN TO THE EVACUATION.
11:22:47AM DALE MABRY WAS AN ABSOLUTELY PARKING LOT WHEN THEY MANDATED
11:22:53AM MacDILL EVACUATE.
11:22:54AM MOST OF SOUTH TAMPA IS IN A AND B.
11:22:58AM AND NOT ANY AREA OF THE CITY THAT HAS HOMES IN A AND ,B AS
11:23:07AM SOUTH TAMPA.
11:23:08AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:23:08AM MY NAME IS DEBRA WILSON AND I'M HERE TO REQUEST TO VACATE AN
11:23:12AM ALLEY NEXT TO MY HOME.
11:23:13AM I LIVE AT 2903 EAST 17th AVENUE --
11:23:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MA'AM, THAT IS COMING UP ON MY AGENDA, AN
11:23:24AM AGENDA ITEM.
11:23:25AM >> DO I NEED TO SIT DOWN UNTIL IT COMES?
11:23:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NUMBER 99.
11:23:31AM >> DO I NEED TO HAVE A SEAT UNTIL THAT COMES UP?
11:23:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MA'AM, IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE AFTERNOON.
11:23:40AM JUST MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT -- PUBLIC COMMENT, UNLESS --
11:23:49AM >> SHE IS THE APPLICANT.
11:23:50AM >> YES.
11:23:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT ITEM TO BE
11:23:54AM CALLED.
11:23:54AM I DIDN'T WANT HER TO STAY THERE ALL DAY LONG IF SHE WAS JUST
11:23:58AM GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT.
11:23:59AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, ROBIN LOCKETT.
11:24:05AM SO WE CAN TALK -- MAKE COMMENTS OF AGENDA ITEMS NOW?
11:24:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OH, YES, YOU CAN.
11:24:10AM >> OKAY.
11:24:16AM SO ROBIN LOCKETT.
11:24:21AM FIRST I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.
11:24:23AM A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT TREES, PARKING AND SO FORTH.
11:24:26AM THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO DO WITH REGARDS TO
11:24:32AM TELLING PEOPLE WHO CAN PARK ON THEIR PROPERTY AND SO FORTH?
11:24:37AM THAT IS AMAZING TO ME.
11:24:38AM DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
11:24:39AM FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 68.
11:24:47AM I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WITH REGARDS TO THIS ITEM HOW
11:24:59AM MANY TENANTS HAVE BEEN SERVICED, WHAT THE OUTCOMES WERE, AND
11:25:04AM ALSO, HOW MANY TENANTS WERE APPLIED FOR IT.
11:25:11AM THAT IS ONE THING.
11:25:12AM I HAVE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF PHONE CALLS WITH REGARDS TO
11:25:18AM PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN HOTELS.
11:25:20AM AND THE INFORMATION AROUND THE TENANT BILL OF RIGHTS.
11:25:24AM TENANT BILL OF RIGHTS WITH REGARDS TO THE ENFORCEMENT OF
11:25:28AM THIS, WHEN A LANDLORD SAYS THAT THEY ARE NOT ACCEPTING
11:25:32AM SECTION 8.
11:25:33AM THEY ARE NOT ACCEPTING VOUCHERS.
11:25:35AM THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A PENALTY FOR THEM TO DO THAT.
11:25:38AM FOR ONE EVIDENTLY LANDLORDS DON'T KNOW THIS IS IN PLACE.
11:25:42AM TWO, WHEN I LOOKED UP THE ENFORCEMENT, THE $75, $150, $300
11:25:48AM AND $450.
11:25:50AM TOO LOW.
11:25:51AM RIGHT.
11:25:52AM BECAUSE I WOULD PAY -- IF I AM A LANDLORD AND I DON'T WANT
11:25:57AM TO ACCEPT THOSE THINGS, I WOULD PAY THAT AMOUNT TO KEEP
11:26:01AM PEOPLE OUT.
11:26:02AM WHAT HAPPENS -- WHAT IS THE PROCESS IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN?
11:26:07AM OR IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN.
11:26:08AM YOU HAVE TEN APPLICANTS COME AND THEY CONSISTENTLY DENY.
11:26:11AM SO THAT IS ANOTHER -- THAT IS -- THAT IS TWO THINGS.
11:26:14AM I AM SORRY -- I THINK THAT WAS IT.
11:26:26AM OH, HOTELS -- A LOT MUCH PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD -- THEY ARE
11:26:32AM LIVING IN HOTELS AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO GET AN APARTMENT
11:26:36AM OR RENT.
11:26:36AM WITH REGARDS TO ASSISTANCE AROUND THOSE INDIVIDUALS, WHAT IS
11:26:40AM GOING ON?
11:26:41AM AID COUPLE OF PEOPLE CONTACT ME BECAUSE THEY NEED HELP WITH
11:26:44AM PAYING THEIR HOTEL BILL, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND ANYWHERE TO
11:26:47AM ELEVEN.
11:26:47AM SO IS THE R3 PROGRAM OR THE R-MAP PROGRAM, WILL THEY BE
11:26:55AM ABLE TO GET ASSISTANCE WITH THAT?
11:26:57AM THANK YOU.
11:26:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:27:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MISS LOCKETT, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW
11:27:05AM NUMBER 68, WE ARE SIMPLY APPROVING FOR THE PILOT PROJECT TO
11:27:09AM BEGIN.
11:27:09AM IT HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED YET.
11:27:11AM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE APPROVING.
11:27:12AM JUST -- BUT I KNOW THAT MISS TRAVIS WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT
11:27:16AM THE OTHER, BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THIS IS JUST US
11:27:20AM APPROVING THE FACT THAT IT IS GOING TO START.
11:27:22AM >> I WOULD REALLY WANT TO KNOW JUST THE REAL OUTCOMES OF
11:27:25AM THAT.
11:27:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, YEAH, WE ARE ON IT.
11:27:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALREADY ASKED THAT QUESTION.
11:27:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT
11:27:34AM ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
11:27:35AM WE WILL GIVE YOU QUARTERLY UPDATES OF THE HOUSING.
11:27:38AM AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO INCLUDE -- WE WILL BE REPORTING ON
11:27:42AM THAT -- THE QUESTIONS THAT MISS LOCKETT IS ASKING, WE WILL
11:27:46AM MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE THAT IN OUR QUARTERLY REPORT.
11:27:49AM THEN FOR THE HOTEL -- FOR THE HOTEL.
11:27:51AM FOR THE R-3, THE RECOVERY RESPONSE -- KIANA WILL TEXT ME
11:27:58AM BECAUSE I AM MESS IT UP.
11:27:59AM THE R-3 PROGRAM HELPS THOSE ARE HOTEL VOUCHERS UNTIL WE FIND
11:28:05AM THEM PERMANENT HOUSING.
11:28:06AM IF THEY ARE IN A HOTEL AND HAVEN'T FOUND PERMANENT HOUSING,
11:28:10AM NEED TO CALL OUR OFFICE TO CONNECT WITH THE R-3 PROGRAM.
11:28:13AM >> STILL LIKE -- THEY HAVE TO DO A LOT OF SERVICE ON CALLING
11:28:17AM ON MONDAY OR SOMETHING?
11:28:19AM AND TRY TO GET IN?
11:28:21AM >> THE YES, THE CALLS ARE WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY.
11:28:24AM AND WE TAKE 500 APPLICATIONS A WEEK.
11:28:27AM E-MAIL.
11:28:29AM >> OKAY.
11:28:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IN
11:28:38AM CHAMBERS?
11:28:44AM DO WE HAVE EVERYBODY ONLINE?
11:28:50AM MR. STROHMEYER, ARE YOU THERE?
11:28:55AM SORRY?
11:29:01AM >>CLERK: MISS STROHMEYER, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE
11:29:06AM YOURSELF.
11:29:07AM I KNOW SHE WAS HAVING SOME INTERNET ISSUES.
11:29:11AM MISS SANCHEZ DID REGISTER AND NEVER LOGGED ON.
11:29:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT IS A PARTY.
11:29:32AM ALL RIGHT.
11:29:33AM LET'S MOVE FORWARD THEN.
11:29:35AM MR. ROGERO, LET'S BRING UP AGENDA ITEM 51 PULLED FOR
11:29:41AM DISCUSSION.
11:29:41AM MR. ROGERO.
11:30:21AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND CITY COUNCIL.
11:30:23AM CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER WITH A PRESENTATION ON ITEM NUMBER
11:30:29AM 51.
11:30:29AM TO RECAP MOVING FUNDING FROM A HURRICANE IAN FEMA
11:30:33AM REIMBURSEMENT ACCOUNT TO PAY ESTIMATED EXPENSES OVER $7
11:30:38AM MILLION ASSOCIATE WITH THIS STORM.
11:30:39AM FOR CLARIFICATION, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO PAY OUTSIDE OF
11:30:43AM THE CITY ORGANIZATION YET.
11:30:45AM THE EVENT WAS ONLY A WEEK AGO AND WE AWAIT INVOICES.
11:30:51AM WE ARE CONCENTRATING ON PAYING THOUSANDS OF CITY EMPLOYEES
11:30:55AM AS YOU HEARD WHO WORKED AROUND THE CLOCK TO PREPARE AND
11:30:57AM RESPOND TO THIS EMERGENCY.
11:31:00AM DURING INDIVIDUAL BRIEFS, COUNCIL HAS ASKED FOR SOME DETAIL
11:31:04AM THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER AS TO WHAT THOSE ANTICIPATED
11:31:07AM EXPENSES WILL BE.
11:31:08AM AND I HAVE THAT HERE IF I CAN HAVE THE ELMO UP, PLEASE.
11:31:15AM THIS INFORMATION IS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM OUR PRELIMINARY
11:31:26AM DAMAGE UPDATE WHICH WE PROVIDE DAILY TO THE COUNTY AS A
11:31:30AM REQUIREMENT FOR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT.
11:31:32AM YOU CAN SEE THE EXPENSES ARE FIRST, PERSONNEL, DEBRIS
11:31:35AM REMOVAL AND PREPARATIONS.
11:31:37AM I WILL JUST GO DOWN THE LIST BRIEFLY, SALARY AND BENEFITS.
11:31:41AM THAT IS THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE EXPENSE AS YOU
11:31:45AM WOULD PROBABLY GUESS.
11:31:46AM THAT IS WHAT RUNS OUR ORGANIZATION.
11:31:48AM DEBRIS REMOVAL.
11:31:49AM BUILDINGS AND EQUIPMENT.
11:31:52AM UTILITIES.
11:31:53AM FOOD FOR THE EOC, FOR OUR VARIOUS EMERGENCY RESPONSE CENTERS
11:31:57AM AND OTHER STAGING AREAS.
11:31:59AM PARK AND RECREATION, RENTALS.
11:32:01AM AN EXAMPLE OF RENTALS WOULD BE THE SHOWER AND REST ROOM
11:32:06AM FACILITIES THAT ARE BROUGHT IN AT THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE
11:32:11AM CENTERS.
11:32:12AM AND ROADS AND BRIDGES.
11:32:14AM YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THE AGENDA BEFORE YOU IS JUST OVER $7
11:32:17AM MILLION, BUT THE COSTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN REVISED UPWARDS OF
11:32:20AM NEARLY $8 MILLION.
11:32:21AM WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THAT DISPARITY RIGHT NOW
11:32:25AM BECAUSE, AGAIN, THESE ARE ESTIMATES.
11:32:26AM THE CLOCK IS STILL RUNNING.
11:32:30AM WE WILL CONTINUE TO REFINE THIS -- THESE ESTIMATES AS WE GET
11:32:33AM INFORMATION IN.
11:32:34AM ON A POSITIVE NOTE, AS WE SHARE WITH YOU, WE OPEN WE WILL
11:32:38AM GET OVER 85% OF THIS REIMBURSED FROM FEMA AND THE STATE OF
11:32:44AM FLORIDA AT THIS POINT.
11:32:45AM THAT IS OVER 6.5 MILLION.
11:32:47AM ALSO DURING INDIVIDUAL BRIEFS, COUNCIL ASKED FOR DETAILS
11:32:55AM REGARDING OUR CONTRACTS AND WHO WE ANTICIPATE PAYING FOR
11:32:58AM FROM THIS FUNDING.
11:32:59AM I ALSO HAVE THAT.
11:33:00AM OF COURSE AT THE TOP, CITY OF TAMPA, OUR INTERNAL CUSTOMER
11:33:11AM FOR PREP RATION AND STAFFING, THE EMPLOYEES.
11:33:13AM MOVING DOWN TO THE DEBRIS REMOVAL THAT SOLID WASTE IS
11:33:21AM UNDERTAKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THESE TWO VENDORS.
11:33:23AM NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A VENDOR HAUL AWAY DEBRIS BUT
11:33:28AM THE VENDOR MONITORED FOR TRACKING PURPOSES AND REIMBURSEMENT
11:33:33AM GOING FORWARD.
11:33:34AM THE SHOWERS AND REST ROOMS I TALKED ABOUT AND THE VARIOUS
11:33:37AM VENDORS PROVIDING FOOD TO THE VARIOUS LOCATIONS.
11:33:40AM WHAT WE DON'T KNOW YET ARE THE MYRIAD OF COMPANIES THAT WE
11:33:43AM DID BUSINESS IN USING OUR PURCHASING CARDS IN THE RUN-UP TO
11:33:48AM IT THE IMMEDIATE EMERGENCY.
11:33:49AM WE HAVE PURCHASING CARDS THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION TO GET
11:33:52AM THOSE SUPPLIES THAT EITHER IT DOESN'T MAKE LOGISTICAL OR
11:33:57AM ECONOMIC SENSE TO HOLD ON TO OR THOSE WE FIND WE NEED AT THE
11:34:01AM LAST MINUTE.
11:34:01AM I WILL NOTE, THESE ARE ALL PREVIOUSLY APPROVED CONTRACTS,
11:34:07AM AND NO CONTRACTS WERE SIGNED OR INCREASED DURING THE
11:34:09AM EMERGENCY SESSION.
11:34:10AM THAT IS BECAUSE AS PART OF OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
11:34:14AM PROTOCOL, WE GET THESE COUNCIL APPROVED CONTRACTS SIGNED
11:34:18AM AHEAD OF TIME AND HOLD THE FUNDING THAT WE MAY NEED IN
11:34:21AM ABEYANCE, THAT IS OUR HURRICANE RESERVE FUNDS THAT WE ASK
11:34:24AM YOU TO MOVE MONEY OUT OF TODAY.
11:34:26AM ALSO, JUST TO GIVE COUNCIL SOME CONTEXT, IT HAS BEEN
11:34:39AM RELATIVELY -- SORRY, IT HAS BEEN RELATIVELY RECENT BUT FIVE
11:34:44AM YEARS SINCE HURRICANE IRMA.
11:34:46AM AND YOU CAN SEE HERE COMPARISON OF HOW HURRICANE IRMA LANDED
11:34:51AM AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
11:34:53AM JUST ABOUT FIVE YEARS ON THE DOT.
11:34:55AM TWO-DAY EVENTS.
11:34:57AM IT LOOKS LIKE HURRICANE IAN WILL BE A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF
11:35:00AM OF THE EXPENSE ASSOCIATED WITH HURRICANE IRMA I WOULD LIKE
11:35:10AM TO GIVE YOU THE HURRICANE IRMA MATERIAL.
11:35:15AM IT TOOK A YEAR TO GET A MERE 300,000 REIMBURSED AND THE LAST
11:35:21AM SIGNIFICANT REIMBURSEMENT OCCURRED THREE YEARS AFTER THE
11:35:24AM EVENT.
11:35:25AM SO NOT A QUICK PROCESS AND NOT A QUICK PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS
11:35:30AM VERY COMPLICATED.
11:35:32AM THE ASSESSING OF THE DAMAGE.
11:35:34AM THE INTAKE OF INFORMATION.
11:35:36AM THE ANALYSIS OF INFORMATION.
11:35:38AM THE DISCUSSION WITH THE REIMBURSEMENT AGENCIES.
11:35:41AM AND THIS MAY SHOCK YOU, BUT OFTEN FOR EXAMPLE, FEMA AUDITOR
11:35:46AM ALSO COME IN AND WON'T AGREE WITH THE INITIAL ACTIONS THAT
11:35:49AM FEMA WOULD INDICATE IN THE FIRST PLACE AND I AM NOT PICKING
11:35:52AM ON FEMA.
11:35:52AM THAT IS JUST PART OF THE PROCESS.
11:35:54AM IT SEEMS VERY LIKELY WE WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
11:35:59AM CASH TIED UP FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IS
11:36:04AM ANOTHER REASON WHY WE WANT THIS FUNDING MOVED FROM THE
11:36:08AM HURRICANE RESERVE FUND.
11:36:09AM FINALLY, COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY SOME STATEMENTS
11:36:14AM AND INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED EARLIER.
11:36:16AM THIS AGENDA, AS YOU MAY KNOW, INCLUDING THIS ITEM WAS
11:36:20AM APPROVED FRIDAY EVENING IN THE CLERK SYSTEM.
11:36:22AM WE BRIEFED EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, AS YOU KNOW.
11:36:26AM BUT THIS ITEM WAS LATE.
11:36:27AM THE AGENDA WAS LATE FOR THE REASONS WE ALREADY MENTIONED.
11:36:30AM NEARLY THE ENTIRE CITY WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TO PREPARE
11:36:34AM -- PARDON ME -- AND DEAL WITH AN EMERGENCY.
11:36:39AM LET ME ALSO SHARE WITH YOU THIS EVENT HAVEN'T ENDED AS YOU
11:36:42AM ARE SEEING RIGHT HERE.
11:36:43AM NOT ONLY DO WE RESPOND TO THE EVENT DURING, BUT SOLID WASTE
11:36:47AM IS OUT THERE DOING EVENT-RELATED ACTIVITIES.
11:36:49AM HUMAN RESOURCES -- WHAT YOU DON'T SEE, THE REVENUE AND
11:36:53AM FINANCE, TRYING TO PAY THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES ACCURATELY IN
11:36:57AM A WAY THAT WE CAN TRACK FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
11:36:59AM OPERATIONALLY, WE ARE STILL IN AN EMERGENCY.
11:37:03AM AND WE BRIEFED EACH OF YOU AS I SAID.
11:37:08AM AND TUESDAY COUNCILMEMBER ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
11:37:14AM ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ITEM.
11:37:15AM TWO DAYS AGO, OKAY.
11:37:17AM MOREOVER, THE COUNCILMEMBER ASK THIS INFORMATION BE
11:37:21AM PROVIDED, I QUOTE, WHEN THIS IS PRESENTED.
11:37:23AM THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
11:37:26AM COUNCIL, I SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, YOU ARE
11:37:31AM MY CUSTOMERS.
11:37:31AM IT IS IMPORTANT THAT I PROVIDE GOOD SERVICE TO MY CUSTOMERS.
11:37:35AM I THINK WITH THE INFORMATION WE PROVIDED AND THE BRIEFS WE
11:37:38AM HELD AND THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WHICH WE PROVIDED WHEN
11:37:41AM IT WAS ASKED FOR, IT IS PROVIDING EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE
11:37:46AM ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE TIME FRAMES AND RESTRICTIONS ASSOCIATE
11:37:49AM WITH THIS EMERGENCY.
11:37:50AM I HOPE THAT ANSWERS ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
11:37:52AM AND I CAN ANSWER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
11:37:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:37:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE ASKED FOR DETAILED
11:38:03AM INFORMATION.
11:38:03AM >> NO ONE.
11:38:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO ONE.
11:38:11AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO SIR.
11:38:14AM SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU WERE ASKING ME A QUESTION.
11:38:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO, IT APPEARS THAT -- NEVER MIND.
11:38:19AM YOU KNOW, EACH OF US IS ELECTED BY THE PUBLIC.
11:38:27AM AND WE REPRESENT OUR CONSTITUENTS IN THE PUBLIC, AND I WOULD
11:38:31AM APPRECIATE IF WE GET RESPECT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:38:34AM MY QUESTION IS, THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU JUST SHOWN.
11:38:40AM I ASKED THE QUESTION THE OTHER DAY -- I EVEN ASKED FOR IT
11:38:44AM YESTERDAY IN E-MAIL.
11:38:47AM YESTERDAY I HAD SUBMITTED BY E-MAIL MY CONCERN TO YOU AND
11:38:50AM CHIEF OF STAFF THIS WAS NOT DISCLOSED TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE
11:38:54AM I FEEL LIKE THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE -- NEEDS TO SEE THE
11:38:57AM INFORMATION.
11:38:57AM IT IS NOT SUFFICIENT JUST FOR US TO SEE IT.
11:39:00AM AND NOW WE ARE TALKING OF $8 MILLION.
11:39:02AM WE HAVE SEEN THIS ADMINISTRATION PLAYS LOOSE WITH NUMBERS.
11:39:06AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DISAGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT.
11:39:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: IN THE HANNA AVENUE PROJECT, TOILET TO TAP
11:39:14AM AND OTHERS.
11:39:15AM I WON'T GO THROUGH THE DETAILS AGAIN.
11:39:17AM BUT JUST BECAUSE YOU GET A LEGAL OPINION SAYING SOMETHING IS
11:39:21AM OKAY DOESN'T MEAN IT IS.
11:39:22AM THE FACT IS THAT WE NEED TO RESPECT THE PUBLIC'S NEED TO
11:39:26AM HAVE TRANSPARENCY.
11:39:27AM AND YOU SAID THAT THESE DOCUMENTS ARE PROVIDED EVERY DAY TO
11:39:31AM THE COUNTY.
11:39:32AM MY FIRST QUESTION IS WHY DIDN'T YOU GIVE US WHAT WAS GIVEN
11:39:36AM TO THE COUNTY YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE.
11:39:38AM PUT A COPY AND SAY THIS IS AS OF TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY.
11:39:43AM BUT YOU HAD SOME VERSION OF THE DOCUMENTS.
11:39:45AM WHY WOULDN'T YOU PROVIDE IT TO THE PUBLIC FOR TRANSPARENCY
11:39:50AM PURPOSES.
11:39:50AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I CAN GOING FORWARD, BUT YOU ASKED FOR THIS
11:39:54AM TO BE PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
11:39:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: NOT JUST WHAT I ASKED FOR BUT TALKING OF $8
11:39:59AM MILLION AND THE PUBLIC -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE
11:40:02AM ADMINISTRATION WOULDN'T WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.
11:40:04AM THE MAYOR HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE OF TRANSPARENCY AND
11:40:08AM ACCOUNTABILITY.
11:40:09AM A BASIC QUESTION.
11:40:09AM HANNA AVENUE I ASKED A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE WHAT IS THE
11:40:13AM RENTAL EQUIVALENCY AND YOU DECIDED NOT TO DO IT.
11:40:17AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT IS NOT TRUE, SIR.
11:40:19AM WE PROVIDED THAT.
11:40:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: NOT THAT I ASKED A QUESTION BUT A BASIC PART
11:40:23AM OF POLICY ANALYSIS THAT ANYBODY WOULD DO.
11:40:27AM MY SECOND QUESTION -- THE FIRST POINT I WOULD APPRECIATE IF
11:40:30AM THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE TRANSPARENT WITH INFORMATION
11:40:33AM LIKE THIS ESPECIALLY WITH BIG TICKET ITEMS WITH THE
11:40:35AM PURCHASING CARDS -- WHAT IS THE LIMIT -- WHAT IS THE DOLLAR
11:40:41AM LIMIT ON IT AND THE MOST -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT AUTHORITIES
11:40:44AM ARE OUT THERE.
11:40:45AM CAN SOMEBODY SPEND MILLION DOLLARS ON PURCHASING CARD.
11:40:48AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T KNOW, I WILL REFER THAT TO
11:40:52AM PROCUREMENT WHICH IS PURCHASING CARDS AND I CAN PROVIDE THAT
11:40:56AM ANSWER TO YOU.
11:40:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: ARE WE GOING TO GET A SUMMARY LIST OF WHAT
11:40:59AM WAS SPENT AND SOMEBODY PRESENT BACK TO US WHAT WAS SPENT ON
11:41:02AM IT AND DO WE HAVE ANY APPROVAL AFTER THE FACT.
11:41:04AM CAN ANYBODY -- IF THEY HAVE A PURCHASING LIMIT CAN THEY
11:41:07AM SPEND WHATEVER THEY WANT ON THE PURCHASING CARD.
11:41:10AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THE LIMITS ARE INCREASED AND FIB FROM
11:41:14AM PURCHASING -- THE LIMITS ARE INCREASED FOLLOWING AN
11:41:18AM EMERGENCY AND FOLLOWING THE EMERGENCY EVENT THEY ARE REDUCED
11:41:20AM BACK TO NORMAL LIMITS.
11:41:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS.
11:41:23AM YOU SAID WE PREAPPROVED SOME OF THESE CONTRACTS.
11:41:26AM WILL ANY OF THESE EXPENDITURES COME BACK TO US FOR APPROVAL
11:41:30AM FOR ANY MONEY TO BE SPENT?
11:41:32AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AGAIN, A TWO-PRONGED QUESTION.
11:41:34AM THE FIRST QUESTION I BELIEVE YOU ASKED A RECONCILIATION AND
11:41:37AM ACCOUNTING, MY WORDS.
11:41:38AM THERE ABSOLUTELY WILL.
11:41:39AM THERE HAS TO BE FOR FEDERAL AND STATE PURPOSES AND
11:41:42AM HISTORICALLY WE HAVE PROVIDE THAT TO CITY COUNCIL.
11:41:44AM IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL APPROVALS WITH EXPENDITURES
11:41:48AM ASSOCIATED WITH THE EMERGENCY, I DON'T KNOW THE PARTICULAR
11:41:50AM NUANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT I CAN FIND OUT.
11:41:54AM AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE PREEMERGENCY, THE DECLARATION OF THE
11:41:57AM EMERGENCY AND POST EMERGENCY AND THE RULES AND RESTRICTIONS
11:42:01AM AND TRACKING NEEDS CHANGE BETWEEN THOSE THREE PERIODS.
11:42:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE TO JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE I HAVE
11:42:08AM TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE BY CHARTER WE ARE REQUIRED TO
11:42:10AM OVERSEE THE BUDGET AND CONTRACTS.
11:42:17AM IF WE DON'T ASK THESE QUESTIONS WE ARE NOT DOING THE DUTY TO
11:42:22AM HELP THE TAXPAYERS.
11:42:23AM WE DESPERATELY NEED MONEY FOR POTHOLE REPAIRS AND TO APPROVE
11:42:28AM $8 MILLION WITHOUT ANY INFORMATION UNTIL JUST NOW WITHOUT
11:42:31AM DETAILED INFORMATION AND WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO APPROVE
11:42:38AM CONTRACTS IS WORRY SOME TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY WONDER
11:42:41AM WHY STREETS CAN'T BE REPAIRED AND SIDEWALKS.
11:42:43AM YOU SAID THAT NO NEW CONTRACTS WERE APPROVED LAST WEEK.
11:42:47AM WERE ANY CONTRACTS CANCELLED LAST WEEK?
11:42:51AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT I DON'T KNOW.
11:42:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: RELATED TO DISASTER RECOVERY?
11:42:55AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T KNOW.
11:42:56AM I WILL RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION WHEN I CAN TALK TO THE
11:42:59AM PROCUREMENT --
11:43:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: SEND A MEMO FOR ALL COUNCIL.
11:43:03AM IF YOU HAVE ANY -- IF YOU SEND IT TO ALL CITY
11:43:07AM COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:43:07AM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE IT PUBLIC FOR THE
11:43:10AM PUBLIC.
11:43:10AM THE LAST QUESTION IS, IF YOU GET 85% BACK FROM THE FEDERAL
11:43:15AM GOVERNMENT, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT MONEY.
11:43:16AM DO WE APPROVE WHERE THAT GOES AND IN A SLUSH FUND.
11:43:20AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: EXCELLENT QUESTION.
11:43:21AM AGAIN, AS I SAID BEFORE, I FIND THE TERM "SLUSH FUND"
11:43:27AM MISLEADING BUT I WILL USE THAT WORD IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO.
11:43:30AM AND I WILL GIVE AN EXAMPLE, FOLLOWING HURRICANE IRMA, WE
11:43:34AM DEPLETED OUR HURRICANE FUND AND TOOK A YEAR OR TWO TO
11:43:39AM REPLENISH THAT.
11:43:40AM DIRECT ANSWER WHEN THAT FUNDING IS REIMBURSED, WE WILL BE
11:43:44AM PLACED IN THE HURRICANE RESERVE FUND.
11:43:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE PUT IT BACK IN
11:43:49AM THERE.
11:43:49AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE WILL COME TO YOU TO APPROVE THAT, YES,
11:43:52AM SIR.
11:43:52AM IT IS A BUDGET TRANSACTION.
11:43:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:43:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE HE-WAY TRIFECTA: THE FEDERAL
11:44:01AM GOVERNMENT, THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:44:05AM THE ITEM 7.234,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OF WHICH ONE
11:44:13AM PARTIES COMING UP WITH $5.2 MILLION WHICH IS THE FEDS OR
11:44:21AM FEMA.
11:44:22AM THE OTHER IS PROVIDED BY 12.5% FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA OR
11:44:27AM 875,000 AND TWO AND A HALF PERCENT.
11:44:33AM THE SUMS OF THE TOTAL EQUAL 7,234,000 OR SOMETHING OF THAT
11:44:39AM DEGREE.
11:44:40AM THIS IS ESTIMATE.
11:44:42AM THESE ARE GUESSTIMATES WENT UP 850,000.
11:44:53AM THESE ARE ESTIMATES.
11:44:59AM WHEN YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY, YOU HAVE TO TAKE ACTION.
11:45:02AM EITHER WAY YOU WILL BE CRITICIZED AUDITED BY FEMA.
11:45:15AM HOW MANY YEARS DID IT GET BACK.
11:45:18AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: TOOK THREE YEARS.
11:45:19AM AFTER THE HURRICANE, A LENGTHY PROCESS.
11:45:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU BORROWED THE DAY FROM THE RAINY DAY
11:45:26AM FUND.
11:45:26AM AND TO PASS IT OR NOT TO PASS IT OR TO CLEAN THE STREETS.
11:45:32AM AND TO PAY WHAT IS ALREADY USED TO PAY OVERTIME PAY AND
11:45:37AM CLEAN UP DEBRIS OFF THIS DONE, THE FOOD, THE TRUCKS AND
11:45:40AM ENERGY AND WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU ARE PUTTING IN THERE OR
11:45:50AM ANY CITY AND COUNTY.
11:45:52AM CORRECT?
11:45:53AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I CAN ADD ON TO -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA,
11:45:56AM YOU MADE A GOOD POINT.
11:45:58AM WE INCUR THESE EXPENSES CONTRACTORS, PAYROLL OR SUPPLIES.
11:46:02AM WE WILL PAY IT FROM SOME PLACE.
11:46:04AM WE ARE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO DO THAT.
11:46:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. ROGERO?
11:46:19AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, HANG ON ONE SECOND PLEASE.
11:46:21AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, THIS IS ONE OF YOUR AGENDA ITEMS UNDER
11:46:24AM FINANCE 37.
11:46:25AM DO YOU WANT TO -- THROUGH THE CONSENT OR YOU WANT TO GO
11:46:28AM AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION --
11:46:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: UP TO YOU.
11:46:31AM NOT MINE.
11:46:32AM YOU ARE THE CHAIRMAN.
11:46:33AM I AM CHAIRMAN OF THE FINANCE.
11:46:34AM IF THE COUNCIL WISHES FOR ME TO DO IT NOW, I WILL DO IT NOW.
11:46:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WILL YOU MIND GOING AHEAD BECAUSE WE WILL
11:46:41AM HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT.
11:46:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 51 MAKING CERTAIN CHANGES IN THE
11:46:45AM BUDGET AND FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30,
11:46:49AM PROVIDING THE TRANSFER, LOCATION AND PREAPPROPRIATION
11:46:57AM 7,034,000 IN THE GENERAL FUND, SOLID WASTE OPERATION FUND
11:47:00AM AND FEMA REIMBURSEMENT TO PROVIDE FOR EXPENSES RELATED TO
11:47:06AM HURRICANE IAN.
11:47:06AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:47:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:47:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:47:11AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:47:16AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:47:17AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:47:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: AS I STATED EARLIER, I HAVE DEEP CONCERNS
11:47:21AM ABOUT THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY.
11:47:23AM I HAVE CONCERNS OF THE ATTITUDE OF STAFF REGARDING MY
11:47:27AM REQUEST FOR TRANSPARENCY.
11:47:29AM IN LOOKING THROUGH THE INFORMATION THAT WE JUST GOT, MORE
11:47:32AM THAN HALF OF THE MONEY IS GOING TOWARD STAFF.
11:47:38AM I HAVE CONCERNS WHERE THE REST OF IT WILL GO AND HOW IT WILL
11:47:41AM BE SPENT; HOWEVER, STAFF HAS PROMISE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
11:47:45AM TRANSPARENCY AND GIVE US ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
11:47:49AM IN GREAT HESITANCY AND WORRY I WILL GO AHEAD AND WORK FOR
11:47:53AM THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP STAFF BEING PAID BUT
11:47:56AM APPRECIATE IN THE FUTURE THAT STAFF WILL PROVIDE
11:47:58AM TRANSPARENCY WITHOUT US ASKING AND WILL ALSO BE
11:48:05AM COLLABORATIVE WITH TRANSPARENCY WHEN WE ASK FOR IT.
11:48:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:48:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. ROGERO, HOW MUCH IS IN THE FUND NOW?
11:48:15AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: 7.24 MILLION.
11:48:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BASICALLY CLEAN IT UP WITH WHAT WE ARE
11:48:21AM DOING TODAY.
11:48:22AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF THE EXPENSES AND
11:48:25AM HOW MUCH THEY BECOME.
11:48:26AM IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS ITEM, WE TAG THAT BOTH FOR
11:48:30AM EXPENDITURES AND TRACKING.
11:48:31AM A LONG WAY OF SAYING I DON'T KNOW YET.
11:48:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: COULD BE LESS OR MORE.
11:48:37AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
11:48:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. ROGERO, I NEED TO ASK A QUESTION.
11:48:40AM I THINK I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER.
11:48:42AM ONE OF THE COUNCILMEN SAID HALF WAS GOING TO STAFF.
11:48:47AM WE HAVE POLICE AND FIRE WORKING 24 HOURS -- EXCUSE ME 12
11:48:51AM HOURS OFF, 12 HOURS ON THAT WENT INTO OVERTIME
11:48:55AM CAN WE SAFELY SAY THAT THE MAJORITY OF THAT WENT TO OVERTIME
11:48:59AM PAY BECAUSE OF THE EMERGENCY TO OUR CITY STAFF?
11:49:02AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I JUST DON'T -- I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO
11:49:05AM THAT QUESTION AT THIS TIME.
11:49:07AM AGAIN, THESE ARE ESTIMATES.
11:49:08AM AND IN FACT I BELIEVE WE PAID PEOPLE TODAY AS WE ARE GOING
11:49:12AM THROUGH THE INFORMATION.
11:49:13AM WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT WAS PAID IN SERVICE OF THE EMERGENCY
11:49:19AM AND WHAT IS PAID DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS.
11:49:21AM THE CITY DOESN'T SIMPLY STOP BECAUSE THERE IS AN EMERGENCY.
11:49:25AM AGAIN A RELATIVELY LONG-WINDED ANSWER I DON'T KNOW.
11:49:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THINK I CAN SAFELY SAY BECAUSE OF OVERTIME
11:49:33AM BECAUSE OF THE STATE OF EMERGENCY IS THE REASON WE HAVE TO
11:49:35AM PAY STAFF MORE.
11:49:35AM A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:49:37AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:49:39AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:49:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:49:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:49:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:49:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:49:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:49:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:49:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:49:50AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:49:54AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:49:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WANT TO RUN UP TO THAT
11:50:03AM PODIUM RIGHT NOW.
11:50:05AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WILL GET OUT OF YOUR WAY.
11:50:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK US TO ABOUT AGENDA
11:50:15AM ITEM NUMBER 7.
11:50:16AM >>BRAD BAIRD: BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF
11:50:19AM INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:50:20AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM 7, WHICH IS PALMA
11:50:25AM CEIA WASTEWATER REHABILITATION PROJECT FOR 3.1 WITH
11:50:29AM INSTITUFORM TECHNOLOGIES.
11:50:30AM AND AIL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:50:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BAIRD.
11:50:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION.
11:50:39AM >> SECOND.
11:50:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION BY COUNCILMAN
11:50:44AM MANISCALCO.
11:50:44AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:50:46AM ALL IN FAVOR.
11:50:46AM EXCUSE ME ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:50:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:50:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:50:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:50:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:50:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:50:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:50:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:50:59AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:51:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.
11:51:04AM >>BRAD BAIRD: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8 IS FOR FOREST HILLS
11:51:07AM WASTEWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM REHABILITATION IN THE AMOUNT OF
11:51:11AM $5.6 MILLION AGAIN WITH INSTITUFORM TECHNOLOGIES.
11:51:14AM AND I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:51:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENT OR QUESTIONS?
11:51:23AM ORLANDO GUDES.
11:51:23AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WON'T GO INTO THE DEEP WEEDS.
11:51:28AM WE HAD A CONVERSATION TODAY.
11:51:30AM YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WITH THE NUMBERS.
11:51:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WILL YOU GIVE US THE EVO ON THAT.
11:51:36AM >> PROUD OF THAT.
11:51:37AM TOTALS 20.9% ON THIS ONE WHICH IS I BELIEVE HIGH FOR ONE OF
11:51:43AM THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS OF WHICH BBE PARTICIPATION IS 4.6%
11:51:48AM AND HBE IS 16.3%.
11:51:51AM ASSOCIATED WITH MANHOLE REHABILITATION AND CLEANING, TVING
11:51:58AM AND GROUNDING LINES.
11:52:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTIONS?
11:52:04AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:52:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAINST THE NUMBERS ARE GOING UP FOR THOSE
11:52:08AM -- THOSE CLASSES.
11:52:09AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE -- WE DON'T HAVE A LEVEL OF
11:52:12AM SERVICE LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, BRAD.
11:52:14AM WE INDICATED WHY.
11:52:15AM BECAUSE PEOPLE GO TO QUESTION.
11:52:16AM I GOT THIS HIGH NUMBER HERE.
11:52:18AM ARE WE STILL TRYING TO PLAY A NUMBER GAME HERE.
11:52:21AM AND WE NEED TO MAKE IT BOUND.
11:52:23AM AND TRYING TO GET WHAT WE NEED TO GET FOR THOSE DIFFERENT
11:52:26AM CLASSES.
11:52:27AM I DO KNOW IT IS GOOD THAT WE FINALLY GOT THERE.
11:52:30AM AND THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THAT PRODUCT AND SERVICE.
11:52:34AM >>BRAD BAIRD: GOING FORWARD, WE WILL COMMUNICATE WHEN THEY
11:52:37AM DON'T ACHIEVE LEVELS LIKE THIS.
11:52:39AM WE WILL COMMUNICATE THAT.
11:52:40AM THANK YOU.
11:52:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:52:47AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:52:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:52:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:52:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:52:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:52:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:52:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:52:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES
11:52:56AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:52:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9.
11:53:03AM 408.
11:53:07AM >> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:53:10AM NOR THE RECORD CATE WELLS WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:53:14AM ITEM 9, THESE ARE AMENDMENTS TO THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE
11:53:18AM REQUIREMENT IN CHAPTER 27.
11:53:19AM ALSO BEEN REFERRED TO I THINK INITIALLY AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:53:23AM TEXT AMENDMENT PROPOSAL AND THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE
11:53:26AM PROPOSAL.
11:53:26AM JULY 21, COUNCIL MADE A MOTION DIRECTING STAFF TO PROVIDE AN
11:53:30AM UPDATE AND STATUS REPORT ON THIS ITEM.
11:53:32AM SIMPLY STATED, THERE HAS BEEN NO FURTHER ACTION SUBJECT TO
11:53:37AM THE FEBRUARY 24 CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP.
11:53:39AM GIVEN THE PASSAGE OF TIME, I THOUGHT IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO
11:53:42AM DO A BRIEF PRESENTATION WITH YOUR INDULGENCE WHAT WAS
11:53:46AM DISCUSSED ON FEBRUARY 24.
11:53:48AM I SEE NODDING HEADS, SO THANK YOU.
11:53:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE PROCEED.
11:53:54AM >>CATE WELLS: THE PROCESS STARTED AS A CITY INITIATED TEXT
11:53:57AM AMENDMENT.
11:53:58AM THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WAS TO HAVE INCREASED AWARENESS OF
11:54:02AM PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:54:02AM I DID FILE A MEMO.
11:54:04AM WITH THE MEMO THERE IS ATTACHED A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL
11:54:08AM PROPOSAL, AND IF IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL, I MADE THIS SUMMARY
11:54:12AM WHICH IS ON THE OVERHEAD.
11:54:13AM AND AS SUBMITTED, THE PROPOSAL REQUESTED CHANGES THAT WILL
11:54:25AM REQUIRE NOTICE TO BE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS AT THE
11:54:28AM PHYSICAL AND MAILING ADDRESS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE
11:54:30AM EVENT THE TWO WERE DIFFERENT.
11:54:32AM NOTICE TO BE MADE TO RENTERS, INCREASING THE NOTICE AREA FOR
11:54:36AM ALL APPLICATIONS FROM 250 FEET TO 500 FEET.
11:54:39AM AND FOR APPLICATIONS REQUESTING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL,
11:54:43AM COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL USES, THE NOTICE AREA WILL BE
11:54:46AM INCREASED TO A QUARTER MILE AND A COMMUNITY MEETING WILL BE
11:54:49AM REQUIRED 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THE CITY COUNCIL HEARING.
11:54:52AM THEY ALSO REQUESTED THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION -- CONTACT
11:54:57AM INFORMATION BE ADDED FOR THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD
11:55:01AM ORGANIZATIONS.
11:55:01AM AND IN THE EVENT THERE IS NOT A REGISTERED ORGANIZATION FOR
11:55:04AM A CERTAIN PROJECT, THAT YOU THEN START TO LOOK AT THE
11:55:08AM ABUTTING REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS FOR NOTICE.
11:55:11AM AND LASTLY, INCLUDE A FULL-SIZED HARD COPY OF THE MOST
11:55:16AM RECENTLY FILED PD SITE PLAN WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT EITHER A
11:55:21AM SPECIAL REQUEST OR REZONING TO PD.
11:55:23AM WHEN THE REQUESTED -- SINCE THE -- SINCE MANY OF THE
11:55:28AM REQUESTED CHANGES DEAL WITH THE NOTICE AREA, WANTED TO TAKE
11:55:31AM A MOMENT TO SUMMARIZE THE CURRENT NOTICE REQUIREMENTS IN OUR
11:55:35AM CODE AS WELL AS THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.
11:55:37AM HERE IS ANOTHER OVERHEAD JUST TO BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE.

11:55:39AM THE STATUTORY NOTICE REQUIREMENT FOR REZONING IS ANOTHER
11:55:43AM LAND USE DECISION ARE SET OUT IN SECTION 156.041 OF THE
11:55:47AM FLORIDA STATUTES.
11:55:48AM THESE REQUIRE TO BE READ ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS AND NOTICE TO
11:55:52AM BE PUBLISHED IN A NEWSPAPER TEN DAYS PRIOR TO ADOPTION OF
11:55:55AM THE ORDINANCE SO THAT WOULD BE TEN DAYS PRIOR TO SECOND
11:55:57AM READING ON THE APPLICATION.
11:56:00AM SUPPLEMENTAL NOTICE REQUIREMENTS ARE ESTABLISHED IN SECTION
11:56:02AM 27-149 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
11:56:06AM THESE REQUIRE MAILING NOTICE TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 250
11:56:10AM FEET.
11:56:10AM SUBJECT PROPERTY, POSTING NOTICE ON THE PROPERTY AT LEAST 30
11:56:15AM DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THE HEARING, AND THEN FILING AN AFFIDAVIT
11:56:18AM WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE CONFIRMING COMPLIANCE WITH
11:56:21AM THESE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.
11:56:24AM UNDER THE STATUTORY AND SUPPLEMENTAL NOTICE REQUIREMENTS ARE
11:56:26AM INTENDED TO PROVIDE INTERESTED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH
11:56:31AM INFORMATION ABOUT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION OR

11:56:33AM ORDINANCE.
11:56:34AM TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT TIME TO DETERMINE HOW THE APPLICATION
11:56:37AM OR ORDINANCE MAY OR MAY NOT IMPACT THEIR INTEREST, AND
11:56:41AM LASTLY BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
11:56:45AM PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE OFFICIAL ACTION IS
11:56:48AM TAKEN.
11:56:50AM STAFF RESEARCHED THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS OF OTHER
11:56:52AM JURISDICTIONS AND A SUMMARY OF THAT RESEARCH IS ATTACH TO
11:56:56AM THE MEMORANDUM FILED WITH COUNCIL.
11:56:57AM YOU WILL FIND THAT THE NOTICE AREAS THAT WE LOOKED AT RANGE
11:57:01AM GENERALLY BETWEEN 200 FEET ARCHED 500 FEET.
11:57:04AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY RECOGNIZING THAT YOU HAVE GOT AN URBAN
11:57:08AM OR AN URBAN SERVICE AREA WHERE THERE IS MORE DENSITY THAN A
11:57:14AM MORE RURAL AREA, IN THE URBAN SERVICE AREA THE REQUIREMENT
11:57:17AM IS 300 FEET NOTICE, AND IN THE COUNTY IT'S 500 FEET.
11:57:23AM STAFF FOUND THAT WHILE NOTICE AREAS MAY NOT BE CONSISTENT
11:57:26AM ACROSS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, THEY ARE GENERALLY CONSISTENT
11:57:30AM WITHIN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE APPLICATION AND DON'T
11:57:34AM GENERALLY DIFFER BASED UPON THE REQUESTED USE.
11:57:37AM WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPOSAL, THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY
11:57:40AM DISCUSSION, AND I THINK IT'S WARRANTED IF COUNCIL WANTS TO
11:57:44AM MOVE FORWARD WITH IT TO DISCUSS THE BASIS FOR EXPANDING THE
11:57:48AM NOTICE AREA IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S DESIRE.
11:57:52AM IN ADDITION TO THE LEGAL ISSUES THAT WE HAD RAISED
11:57:54AM PREVIOUSLY DURING THE WORKSHOP IN FEBRUARY, THERE WERE MORE

11:57:59AM ISSUES THAT WERE DISCUSSED.
11:58:01AM SECTION 27-149 ESTABLISHES THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL
11:58:04AM TYPES OF LAND USE DECISIONS, KNOW IT JUST REZONING.
11:58:07AM SO IT DEALS WITH CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS WITH BLC OR
11:58:14AM ARC, REVIEW HEARINGS BEFORE THIS COUNCIL, DEALS WITH
11:58:17AM VARIANCES THAT GO TO THE VRB, BUT IN THE EVENT COUNCIL IS
11:58:20AM INTERESTED IN CHANGING THE NOTICE REQUIREMENT, I WOULD ASK
11:58:24AM THAT THEY BE LIMITED TO THE REZONING IN THE LAND USE
11:58:28AM APPLICATIONS THAT COME BEFORE YOU, AND THAT IMPACTS THE
11:58:31AM APPLICATIONS THAT GO BEFORE THE OTHER BOARDS.
11:58:33AM BUT AGAIN, THAT'S CERTAINLY SUBJECT TO DISCUSSION.
11:58:37AM I WANT TO -- WHEN THIS ADMINISTRATION CAME INTO PLAY, THERE
11:58:43AM WAS A DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY TEAM THAT WAS CREATED,
11:58:46AM AND LOOKED AT MANY ISSUES, INCLUDING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
11:58:49AM CODE, AND ONE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF THAT TEAM WAS
11:58:54AM TO HAVE PREDICTABILITY AND UNIFORMITY IN THE CODE TO THE
11:58:58AM EXTENT POSSIBLE, AND IN DECEMBER OF 2020, THE COUNCIL
11:59:01AM APPROVED AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 27 WHERE WE HAD UNIFORM
11:59:05AM NOTICE PROCEDURES.
11:59:06AM IN THE EVENT COUNCIL WISHES TO REVISIT THAT WE WILL BE
11:59:10AM MOVING AWAY FROM HAVING THAT UNIFORM APPROACH TO NOTICE.
11:59:13AM WITH THAT IS A CONCERN, WILL THERE BE AN THAN CREASE IN THE
11:59:18AM NOTICES?
11:59:20AM NO MATTER WHAT TYPE OF APPLICATION, THE NOTICE AREA IS 250
11:59:23AM FEET.

11:59:23AM ONCE YOU START CHANGING IT, THERE'S THAT POTENTIAL.
11:59:27AM OTHER CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED, INCLUDING RENTERS IN THE
11:59:34AM NOTICE AREA.
11:59:35AM IT'S BEEN A BIG TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.
11:59:38AM WHEN PROPERTY OWNERS ARE REQUIRED TO BE NOTICED, THERE IS A
11:59:41AM LIST AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED BY THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
11:59:43AM PROPERTY APPRAISER THAT WILL IDENTIFY ALL OWNERS OF PROPERTY
11:59:47AM WITHIN THAT RADIUS.
11:59:50AM THAT SIMILAR LIST, I AM NOT AWARE THAT IT EXISTS FOR
11:59:53AM RENTERS, AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WITH HAVING IDENTIFYING A
11:59:58AM WAY TO IDENTIFY WHO THE RENTERS OR THE TENANTS ARE WITHIN
12:00:01PM THE NOTICE AREA OF THE AND THERE WAS ONE APPLICATION THAT
12:00:03PM COUNCIL SAW RECENTLY, AND THE TENANTS WITHIN THE REZONED
12:00:09PM AREA, THE PROPOSED REZONED AREA, EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT NOT
12:00:12PM EFFING RECEIVING WRITTEN NOTICE.
12:00:14PM AND WHEN I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE APPLICATION, YOU HAD
12:00:19PM CERTAIN FOLIO NUMBERS.
12:00:20PM SO WITH THE FOLLOW WHY NUMBERS, YOU CAN IDENTIFY THE OWN OR
12:00:23PM OF THE PROPERTY.
12:00:23PM WHAT WE DON'T GET FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER ARE THE
12:00:26PM TENANTS WITHIN THAT FOLIO NUMBER, AND THE EXTENT TO WHICH
12:00:29PM THE ADDRESSES DIFFER FROM THE GENERAL PHYSICAL ADDRESS FOR
12:00:33PM THE FOLIO NUMBER.
12:00:35PM THAT'S JUST AN OBJECTIVE CONCERN THAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED, IF
12:00:38PM WE WERE TO INCLUDE RENTERS OR TENANTS, AS REQUIRED FOR THE

12:00:42PM NOTICE.
12:00:44PM THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL REQUESTED AMENDING THE DEFINITION OF
12:00:48PM AGGRIEVED PERSON TO INCLUDE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE
12:00:51PM PARROT PROPOSED EXPANDED NOTICE AREA.
12:00:53PM CARROLL ANN BENNETT REACHED OUT TO ME THIS WEEK AND LET ME
12:00:56PM KNOW THAT THEY ACTUALLY -- THEY AGREE AFTER FURTHER
12:01:00PM DISCUSSION, THERE IS AGREEMENT AND SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED
12:01:03PM DEFINITIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED IN FEBRUARY, AND THEY ARE
12:01:08PM REMOVING THAT PART OF THE REQUEST.
12:01:11PM SO CURRENTLY IN OUR CODE IS TO INCLUDE AN APPLICANT OR OWNER
12:01:18PM OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE 250-FOOT NOTICE AREA FROM THE SUBJECT
12:01:22PM PARCEL.
12:01:24PM SO WITH WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED IN FEBRUARY IS THAT WE CHANGE
12:01:28PM THE DEFINITION OF AGGRIEVED PERSON SO THAT IT ALIGNS WITH
12:01:33PM THE COMMON LAW DEFINITION AND HOW THE COURT INTERPRETS
12:01:36PM ITSELF WHEN THEY LOOK AT ISSUES OF STANDING.
12:01:38PM AND ONE EXAMPLE, AND IT'S THE DEFINITION ADOPTED BY THE CITY
12:01:41PM OF ORLANDO, TO BRIEFLY SHOW, THEY DEFINE AN AGGRIEVED PERSON
12:01:47PM A AS PERSON WHO WILL SUFFER A NEGATIVE EFFECT TO A PROTECTED
12:01:51PM INTEREST AS A RESULT OF THE QUASI JUDICIAL ACTION SOUGHT BY
12:01:55PM THE APPLICANT.
12:01:56PM THE ALD ADVERSELY AFFECTED INTEREST MAY BE SHARED IN COMMON
12:01:59PM WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE BUT SHALL
12:02:02PM EXCEED THE GENERAL INTEREST AND COMMUNITY GOOD SHARED BY ALL
12:02:07PM PERSONS.

12:02:07PM IT GOES ON TO CLARIFY THAT IN ASSOCIATION -- A ASSOCIATION
12:02:11PM SHALL NOT BE DEEMED TO BE AN ADVERSELY AFFECTED PERSON.
12:02:14PM SO KEEPING IN MIND WITH THE INITIAL GOAL AND WITH THE
12:02:19PM PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, THAT WAS INCREASING AWARENESS OF THE
12:02:23PM HEARING IN FEBRUARY BUT WAS RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL, IS THAT
12:02:26PM WE, THE CITY, KEEP NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AS CURRENTLY CODIFIED
12:02:30PM IN SECTION 27-149, WE AMEND THE DEFINITION OF AGGRIEVED
12:02:35PM PERSON, AND THAT I WOULD LIKE THE IDEA AND I STAFF LIKES THE
12:02:40PM IDEA OF REQUIRING A COMMUNITY MEETING FOR THE REZONING
12:02:45PM BEFORE YOU AND WHETHER THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO PUT IN
12:02:48PM REZONING, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING FOR COUNCIL TO
12:02:52PM DISCUSS, TO THE EXTENT YOU ARE INTERESTED AND SUPPORTIVE,
12:02:56PM SHOULD IT APPLY TO ALL REZONINGS OR JUST CERTAIN TYPES OF
12:03:00PM REZONINGS.
12:03:01PM I KNOW I COVERED A LOT, AND IT'S VERY CONDENSED FROM
12:03:05PM FEBRUARY, I DIDN'T WANT TO DO AN ENTIRE PRESENTATION AS WE
12:03:08PM DID BEFORE.
12:03:09PM THANK YOU.
12:03:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:03:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I SEE WITH ALL OF THIS
12:03:19PM IS PEOPLE ARE VISUAL PEOPLE.
12:03:21PM AND IF THEY DON'T SEE SOMETHING, THEY DON'T KNOW SOMETHING.
12:03:24PM I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DON'T CHANGE OR DO WHAT THE COUNTY DOES.
12:03:35PM WE NEED TO CHANGE, THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, BUT DECIDE TO
12:03:42PM CHANGE, SO ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY, I CAN GO, FOR EXAMPLE,

12:03:48PM 50th, THEY HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING, THEY HAVE AN ISSUE,
12:03:54PM THE DATE, TIME, WHATEVER, PEOPLE STOP, THEY LOOK, THEY SEE
12:03:57PM WHAT'S GOING ON.
12:03:58PM YOU CAN'T SEE THOSE LITTLE SIGNS.
12:04:05PM IT'S RIDICULOUS.
12:04:05PM SO WE NEED TO ADD THE SIGNAGE, NUMBER ONE.
12:04:08PM AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE NOTICE, MAYBE 300 FEET.
12:04:11PM OKAY.
12:04:11PM I CAN LIVE WITH 300.
12:04:12PM I CAN LIVE WITH THE SIGNAGE.
12:04:15PM RENTERS ARE TRANSIENT PEOPLE.
12:04:18PM BUT THE NOTICE GOING TO THAT HOUSE, THEY MAY -- THE NOTICE
12:04:28PM GOES TO THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND THE OWNER, CURRENT RESIDENT,
12:04:37PM SO THE THREE OPTIONS YOU CAN USE, I THINK YOU CAN SEE HOW
12:04:44PM THAT WORKS.
12:04:45PM THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
12:04:46PM CHANGE THE SIGNAGE, AT THE NOTICE.
12:04:53PM I THINK GO TO THEM AND YOU WILL BE ALL RIGHT.
12:04:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:05:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:05:01PM EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILMAN MEMBER GUDES, I WAS GOING TO SAY,
12:05:04PM LARGER SIGNS, BECAUSE WITHOUT MY GLASSES ON, I CAN'T SEE
12:05:08PM WHAT'S ON THE SIGNS ESPECIALLY THE MARKER, IT STAYS IN THE
12:05:15PM SUN, AND IF IT'S COMING TO COUNCIL, GOING TO ANOTHER BOARD,
12:05:18PM I DON'T KNOW, AND I AM HERE, IT'S VERY HARD TO SEE.

12:05:21PM SO A BIGGER SIGN WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, AND MORE COST
12:05:28PM EFFECTIVE I THINK FOR THE APPLICANT.
12:05:29PM I KNOW MAILING IS NOT A FORTUNE, BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE
12:05:33PM MANPOWER AND WHATNOT, BUT EXPANDING THAT NOTICE FROM 250 TO
12:05:37PM 300 I THINK IS REASONABLE.
12:05:38PM 500 FEET IS, WHAT, ONE TENTH OF A MILE GIVE OR TAKE.
12:05:42PM BUT NOT IN THE MIDDLE BUT A MORE REASONABLE ANXIOUS I THINK
12:05:49PM 300 FEET IS HELPFUL.
12:05:50PM BUT THE SIGNS RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAMPAIGN, WE PUT OUR
12:05:55PM CAMPAIGNS SIGNS, WE WANT PEOPLE TO SEE IT.
12:05:58PM THESE SIGNS THAT WE USE THE WHITE SIGNS ARE NEARLY
12:06:01PM IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE.
12:06:02PM EVEN SQUINTING AND PULLING OVER, AND I JUST KNOW IT'S GOING
12:06:06PM TO BE A BIG HEARING, BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN MEMBER
12:06:10PM GUDES SAID.
12:06:11PM THANK YOU.
12:06:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:06:14PM YEAH, AND FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, MS. WELLS, FOR YOUR
12:06:18PM PRESENTATION.
12:06:19PM IT WAS VERY IN-DEPTH, PROFESSIONAL, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF
12:06:23PM HOMEWORK INTO THAT.
12:06:24PM WE ALL APPRECIATE THAT.
12:06:25PM THE SUGGESTION, THE ONLY CONCERN I HAD MUCH IT, THE WAY THAT
12:06:31PM I SEE THIS, AND I AGREE WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
12:06:34PM SAID, IS THIS IS A GOOD GOVERNMENT MEASURE WHERE WE WANT

12:06:37PM PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT
12:06:39PM BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T RESULT IN
12:06:42PM SOMETHING BEING OVERLY BROAD OR BURDENSOME TO SOME
12:06:46PM INDIVIDUAL WHO CAN'T AFFORD AN ATTORNEY, ET CETERA,
12:06:48PM ET CETERA, AND I THINK BY GOING TO REZONINGS THAT ARE GOING
12:06:52PM TO OCCUR IN COUNCIL, FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN PREVENT SOME OF
12:06:56PM THAT.
12:06:57PM SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING.
12:06:59PM BUT AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY WELL-INTENTIONED,
12:07:02PM IT CAN DO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS, AND I THINK IT CAN HAVE SOME
12:07:06PM POSITIVE EFFECT.
12:07:07PM I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU,.
12:07:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:07:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
12:07:15PM AND I WILL ECHO THAT.
12:07:16PM THANKS, MS. WELLS, FOR THE BRIEFING TODAY BUT ALSO THE
12:07:19PM BRIEFING BEFORE THE MEETING.
12:07:23PM I THINK WE NEED TO EXPAND IT -- YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PUBLIC
12:07:26PM SAYS, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT 300 IS A REASONABLE ADDITION, THAT
12:07:33PM WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, AND WE HAVE TO
12:07:37PM BE REASONABLE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
12:07:41PM THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED ARE NOTIFIED.
12:07:46PM THE SIGNS, I AGREE WITH THAT, ALSO, CAN'T READ THE SIPES,
12:07:50PM BUT ALSO TRASHY.
12:07:52PM SOMETIMES THEY END UP BEING TRASHED.

12:07:55PM AND IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHAT EXACTLY THEY SAY.
12:07:59PM YOU SAID COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
12:08:01PM I'M SORRY IF YOU SAID THIS, BUT DID YOU SAY TO INCLUDE
12:08:03PM SPECIFICALLY NOTIFYING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS?
12:08:07PM >>CATE WELLS: THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE CURRENTLY
12:08:10PM NOTIFIED.
12:08:10PM WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED THROUGH THE AMENDMENT WAS TO INCLUDE
12:08:14PM ADDITIONAL CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD
12:08:16PM ASSOCIATION AND IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT'S
12:08:20PM COMING BEFORE YOU, WHERE IT'S NOT A REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD
12:08:23PM ORGANIZATION, TO THEN LOOK AT THE ABUTTING NEIGHBORHOOD
12:08:26PM ORGANIZATION.
12:08:27PM AND THE ONE CONCERN I RECALL FROM STAFF IS THE WAY OUR
12:08:32PM REGISTRATION PROCESS IS.
12:08:34PM IT'S NOT SET UP BASED ON THE PROPERTY ADDRESS.
12:08:41PM IT WILL PULL UP THAT WAY, BUT THE LIST OF NEIGHBORHOOD
12:08:45PM ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE THEN REQUIRED TO BE NOTIFIED IS BASED
12:08:48PM ON THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT REQUEST TO BE OPTED IN FOR THAT
12:08:51PM AREA.
12:08:52PM SO WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT HOW THE MANNER IN WHICH WE ARE
12:09:00PM CAPTURING THE ORGANIZATION IN OUR DATABASE, HOW THAT WOULD
12:09:06PM TRANSLATE TO WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED, AND IF THERE'S A WAY
12:09:09PM TO ADDRESS THAT.
12:09:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO WHAT ABOUT COUNCILMEMBER GUDES IDEA ALSO
12:09:14PM ABOUT NOT ONLY SENDING IT TO IT OWNERS BUT THE CURRENT

12:09:17PM RESIDENT?
12:09:18PM IS THAT POSSIBLE?
12:09:20PM >>CATE WELLS: I BELIEVE THAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER MAY
12:09:22PM GENERATE A SEPARATE LIST.
12:09:24PM IT'S NOT JUST BY TENANT.
12:09:25PM SO WE CAN -- I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT TO SEE WHAT
12:09:30PM EXACTLY CAN BE GENERATED AND THE REASON WE RELY ON THAT
12:09:33PM LIST, THAT HAS BEEN THE LIST THAT THE POST OFFICE GOES BY
12:09:35PM AND STAMPS EVERY PAGE TO ENSURE THAT.
12:09:38PM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN OBJECTIVE WAY TO CREATE
12:09:40PM THOSE LISTS.
12:09:41PM SO IF I CAN LOOK AT THAT, I THINK THAT'S AN EASY ADDITION.
12:09:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: AND THE OTHER WAY OF SAYING IT, NOT ONLY TO
12:09:48PM THE PROPERTY OWNERS BUT TO THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
12:09:51PM >>CATE WELLS: UNDERSTOOD.
12:09:53PM IF I MAY MAKE ONE COMMENT.
12:09:54PM THE DISCUSSION ABOUT 300 FEET, IF THAT IS WHAT COUNCIL
12:09:57PM DECIDES, I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO STAFF, WITH
12:10:01PM THAT 300-FOOT RADIUS, WOULD WE THEN BE SUPPORTIVE OF PERHAPS
12:10:06PM ALL APPLICATIONS.
12:10:07PM IT'S NOT A TREMENDOUS INCREASE.
12:10:09PM AND THEN AGAIN WE HAVE UNIFORMITY IN OUR CODE.
12:10:12PM IT WAS THE CONCERN INITIALLY WHERE WE ARE EXPANDING TO 500
12:10:15PM FEET AND POSSIBLY A QUARTER MILE.
12:10:17PM IT WAS A CONCERN OF HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT DIFFERENT TYPES OF

12:10:20PM APPLICATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE THE SAME IMPACT AS A REZONING.
12:10:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:10:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:10:28PM I BELIEVE THE SIGNS WE PUT UP NOW ARE PAPER BOARD?
12:10:32PM THEY ARE NOT PLASTIC VINYL, ARE THEY?
12:10:35PM ARE THEY VINYL?
12:10:40PM THEY SHOULD LAST A LONG TIME.
12:10:41PM I AM JUST SAYING THINKING ABOUT IF YOU DO THIS FOR SIGNS,
12:10:45PM WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO, DOES THIS MEAN THAT THE SIGN CODES
12:10:48PM HAVE TO CHANGE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA?
12:10:50PM BECAUSE ONCE THEY SEE THESE SIGNS THEY ARE GOING TO SAY THE
12:10:53PM CITY CAN DO IT, I WANT TO DO IT.
12:10:54PM >>CATE WELLS: I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO RECOMMEND --
12:10:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, YOU ARE THE ATTORNEY.
12:11:00PM >>CATE WELLS: THE SIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR REZONINGS ARE SET
12:11:04PM OUT IN CHAPTER 27, AND IT'S SPECIFIC TO NOTICES OF PUBLIC
12:11:08PM HEARINGS.
12:11:09PM SO I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO DISTINGUISH IT FROM OTHERS.
12:11:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF THAT.
12:11:15PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:11:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:11:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AGAIN.
12:11:20PM AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY ABOUT
12:11:23PM THIS AS WELL.
12:11:25PM IN ADDITION TO THE SIGNS, YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED DIFFERENT

12:11:30PM COLORS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS, A REZONING MIGHT BE GREEN, A
12:11:34PM VARIANCE MIGHT BE BLUE, WHATEVER.
12:11:36PM SO AGAIN, AND A BIG CITY OF TAMPA SEAL.
12:11:40PM THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT WHEN YOU DRIVE BY AND YOU SEE OUR
12:11:43PM CURRENT SIGNS, YOU CAN'T TELL JUST VISUALLY THAT IT'S THE
12:11:50PM CITY OF TAMPA, AND NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
12:11:53PM SIGNS, THAT SEAL IS THE FIRST THING YOU SEE.
12:11:55PM SO I WANT TO BRING THIS BACK.
12:12:01PM WE ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT ALL SORTS OF REZONING
12:12:07PM HOUSING ISSUES AT THE WORKSHOP AT THE END OF THIS MONTH,
12:12:11PM OCTOBER 27th, AND YOU AND I HAVE HAD TALKED ABOUT WHEN
12:12:14PM WE GET THESE IDEAS, AND WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, AND I KNOW
12:12:17PM THAT RIGHT NOW T.H.A.N. IS TRYING TO HAVE A MEETING WITH, I
12:12:24PM BELIEVE, THE TAMPA BAY BUSINESS -- BUILDERS ASSOCIATION?
12:12:29PM IS THAT IT?
12:12:31PM YES?
12:12:31PM NO?
12:12:32PM WELL, THEY WILL LET ME KNOW.
12:12:35PM BUT, ANYWAY, THEY ARE WORKING ON MEETINGS WITH APPLICANT,
12:12:42PM BASICALLY, SO THAT THEY COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT
12:12:44PM THEY COULD AGREE ON.
12:12:45PM SO I LOOK FORWARD TO -- THAT WILL BE MY MOTION AT THE END OF
12:12:49PM THIS DISCUSSION, IS TO BRING BACK SOME OF THESE IDEAS, AND
12:12:52PM WHAT A SIGN WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT WOULD BE THE COST IF WE
12:12:56PM MADE SIGNS BIGGER, WOULD WE HAVE TO DO A -- INSTALLING THE

12:13:02PM SIGNS?
12:13:02PM I MEAN, WHAT KINDS OF THINGS ARE WE LOOKING AT?
12:13:05PM SO THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT WE COULD COME BACK ON THE
12:13:07PM 27th WITH JUST A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.
12:13:11PM BUT SO FAR I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS REGARDING IT.
12:13:16PM AND DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY, I KNOW YOU AND I ALSO TALKED
12:13:19PM ABOUT HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THE TENANT, BUT NOT JUST THE
12:13:25PM TENANTS, BUT APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND THE PROPERTY APPRAISER
12:13:30PM KNOWING THE ADDRESS BUT NOT EVERY SINGLE APARTMENT NUMBER IN
12:13:35PM EACH AREA.
12:13:37PM SO WHAT COULD WE DO ABOUT THAT?
12:13:39PM THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT.
12:13:41PM >>CATE WELLS: QUICKLY, IF I MAY RESPOND TO THAT, IF THERE
12:13:45PM IS SUPPORT TO CHANGE THE SIGNS, AND THE ONE THING WE WILL
12:13:47PM WANT TO DO IS LOOK AT THE COST AND THE INSTALLATION AND
12:13:51PM THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT A COST THAT AT THIS POINT OUR FEES
12:13:54PM WOULD COVER, BUT IF THE SIGNS ARE MUCH LARGER, AND REALLY
12:14:02PM BRING ATTENTION TO THE REQUEST THAT'S BEING MADE, IF I MAY
12:14:05PM SUGGEST, OR IN THE SITUATION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THE TENANTS
12:14:10PM ON THE PROPERTY THAT ARE BEING IMPACTED BY THE PROPOSED
12:14:13PM REZONING, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY, YOU KNOW, GREAT
12:14:17PM WAY TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON YOUR PROPERTY, AND THEN OF
12:14:19PM COURSE THERE'S ALWAYS CONTACT INFORMATION IF YOU NEED MORE
12:14:22PM INFORMATION.
12:14:24PM BUT, YES, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY AN OBJECTIVE

12:14:29PM METHODOLOGY TO IDENTIFY TENANTS OR RENTERS, WE'LL LOOK INTO
12:14:33PM THAT.
12:14:33PM BUT IT HAS TO BE EFFECTIVE, TO THE EXTENT THAT IT REQUIRES
12:14:37PM SOMEONE TO MANUALLY LOOK AT THE NOTICED AREA AND GENERATE
12:14:40PM IT.
12:14:41PM THAT RIGHT THERE HAS THE ELEMENT FOR ERROR, AND THEN YOU
12:14:45PM HAVE A MISNOTICE, AND WE WANT TO AVOID THAT TYPE OF
12:14:48PM SITUATION.
12:14:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE -- COUNSEL?
12:14:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DO HAVE A QUESTION JUST FOR
12:14:58PM CLARIFICATION, IF YOUR MOTION IS GOING TO BE BRINGING IT
12:15:01PM BACK ON THE 27th.
12:15:02PM YOU HAD MENTIONED REZONING.
12:15:03PM BUT COUNCIL DOES OTHER THINGS OTHER THAN REZONINGS,
12:15:08PM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, SPECIAL USE APPLICATIONS OR REVIEW
12:15:12PM HEARINGS AS WELL.
12:15:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: EVERYTHING.
12:15:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EVERYTHING.
12:15:16PM THANK YOU.
12:15:16PM >>JOSPEH CITRON: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:15:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF COUNCIL WAS ABOUT TO WRAP IT UP, BRING
12:15:23PM IT BACK ON THE 27th.
12:15:24PM I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR IT LONG DOWN THE ROAD AFTER THE
12:15:27PM 27th.
12:15:27PM PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WAITING AND WAITING AND WAITING. I WANT TO

12:15:30PM MAKE SURE WHEN WE COME BACK ON THE 27th THAT WE ALREADY
12:15:33PM HAVE SOME OF COUNCIL'S IDEAS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, LAID OUT.
12:15:42PM OR WE CAN COME BACK BEFORE THAT AND HAVE THEIR PLAN LAID
12:15:46PM OUT.
12:15:50PM AND WE NEED TO COME BACK AND GET SOMETHING GOING AND MOVE
12:15:53PM DOWN THE ROAD.
12:15:54PM IT'S GONE ON LONG ENOUGH.
12:15:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE WITH IT COME BACK ON THE
12:16:02PM 27th IT'S A CERTAIN CYCLE BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE PART OF
12:16:07PM A CODE CHANGE?
12:16:08PM OR BECAUSE IT'S PROCEDURALLY IT COULD BE DONE OUTSIDE OF THE
12:16:12PM CYCLE?
12:16:13PM >>CATE WELLS: I WOULD RECOMMEND THIS BE INCLUDED IN THE
12:16:14PM JANUARY CYCLE WITH ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS, AND THERE ALSO
12:16:17PM WOULD BE ISSUES WITH REGARD TO REVIEW HEARINGS AT COUNCIL'S
12:16:21PM REQUEST, IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING
12:16:24PM TOGETHER, AND IT WILL GIVE STAFF TIME TO WORK THROUGH THE
12:16:28PM AMENDMENT AS WELL AS THE IMPLICATIONS ON THE COST OF THE
12:16:32PM SIGNS AND HOW WE WOULD ADDRESS THAT.
12:16:35PM BUT THERE ARE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO
12:16:38PM ADDRESS IT AND WE MIGHT HEAR SOME OTHER IDEAS.
12:16:42PM THANK YOU.
12:16:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WOULD
12:16:46PM LIKE TO SPEAK TO CM 21-69408, WHICH IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9?
12:16:56PM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT, LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.

12:17:02PM I JUST WANT TO SHOW RIGHT HERE THAT IF YOU NOTICE HERE, YOU
12:17:07PM WILL SEE THAT JACKSONVILLE IS 350 FEET, MIAMI IS 500 FEET
12:17:14PM BROWARD IS 500 FEET, TALLAHASSEE IS 1,000 FEET, AND I ALSO
12:17:19PM WANT TO NOTICE THEY DO HAVE SOME OTHER DISTANCES FOR CERTAIN
12:17:24PM USES.
12:17:25PM FOR INSTANCE, IN BROWARD COUNTY, IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO A
12:17:29PM BIG BOX STORE IT'S 4 MILES AND IN ORLANDO BIG BOX IS 2,000
12:17:33PM FEET.
12:17:33PM I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE ORIGINAL THAT MS. WELLS WAS
12:17:37PM REFERRING TO, HER PRESENTATION WAS EXTREMELY ACCURATE.
12:17:43PM THE DISCUSSION WITH VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND AMONGST
12:17:45PM OURSELVES, WE HAVE CHANGED IT TO TRY TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THE
12:17:49PM CONCERNS THAT CAME UP.
12:17:51PM AND WE LIKE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO THE AGGRIEVED
12:17:57PM PERSON AND WE LIKE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO THE
12:18:00PM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
12:18:03PM WE WITHDREW OURS AND SUBSTITUTED THERE IS, ALSO TWEAKED A
12:18:08PM LOT OF THINGS BASED ON FEEDBACK WE GOT ABOUT CONCERNS.
12:18:11PM WE ARE MEETING SOON WITH THREE DIFFERENT LAND USE ATTORNEYS
12:18:13PM TO DISCUSS WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT WE CAN COME TO AGREE ON.
12:18:16PM WE PLAN TO MEET WITH, AGAIN WITH CITY STAFF AND THE LEGAL
12:18:22PM DEPARTMENT, AND TRY TO WORK OUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
12:18:26PM I WANT TO SAY THAT THE RENTER ISSUE, OUR SOLUTION TO THE
12:18:29PM OBJECTIONS WAS, AS YOU ALL ALLUDED TO, GOES TO THE PROPERTY
12:18:34PM ADDRESS IF AND ONLY THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS DIFFERENT.

12:18:38PM THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
12:18:40PM IT CAN BE DONE.
12:18:41PM I HAVE A MAN WHO LIVES ON MY STREET, HAS LIVED THERE RENTING
12:18:44PM FOR SEVEN YEARS, HE'S A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
12:18:46PM THE PERSON WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY LIVES IN OHIO.
12:18:50PM AND THE OTHER RENTER SITUATION WE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS IS
12:18:54PM ONLY IF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS MULTIFAMILY.
12:18:59PM BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THE DIFFICULTY OF DOING IT MORE THAN
12:19:02PM THAT.
12:19:03PM HALF OF THE CITIZENRY IN THIS CITY ARE RENTERS, AND RIGHT
12:19:08PM NOW, NONE OF THEM HAVE THE RIGHT TO ANY NOTICE ABOUT
12:19:12PM ANYTHING, NOT A SINGLE ONE.
12:19:14PM AND SO WE CAN'T SOLVE THE ENTIRE PROBLEM BUT WE FEEL IF THE
12:19:20PM SUBJECT PROPERTY, SOMEONE'S HOME, THEY HAVE BEEN LIVING IN
12:19:23PM THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, THE KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL THERE, IF
12:19:25PM THEIR HOMES ARE GOING TO BE DESTROYED, AT LEAST THE COURTESY
12:19:28PM OF A NOTICE.
12:19:29PM THE BIGGER SIGNS ARE EXCELLENT.
12:19:30PM WE ARE ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.
12:19:31PM RIGHT NOW THE COUNTY WILL HAVE THE BIG SIGNS WITHIN THE CITY
12:19:35PM SOMETIMES, AND I NEVER HEARD THAT, SPEAKING TO MR. MIRANDA'S
12:19:38PM CONCERN, I SEE IT ON BAY TO BAY AND DALE MABRY, SO WE WOULD
12:19:43PM LOVE THE BIGGER SIGNS.
12:19:45PM AND WE DO WANT TO DISCUSS THIS.
12:19:48PM WE WOULD LIKE BIGGER THAN 300 FEET AND WE WOULD LIKE TO

12:19:51PM EXPLAIN FURTHER IF SOMEONE IS ASKING FOR A VARIANCE FOR THE
12:19:54PM SHED TO BE 6 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE INSTEAD OF 7 FEET,
12:19:58PM THAT'S A LOT DIFFERENCE THAN A 1200 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX
12:20:02PM OR BIG BOX STORE.
12:20:03PM [BELL SOUNDS]
12:20:04PM SO WE WANT TO ADDRESS ALL OF THAT.
12:20:06PM THANK YOU.
12:20:07PM >> GOOD MORNING.
12:20:14PM IS IT STILL MORNING?
12:20:15PM MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR, AND THIS LITTLE PowerPoint
12:20:19PM SLIDE YOU GUYS SAW TWO YEARS AGO ON MY BIRTHDAY, YOU MIGHT
12:20:23PM REMEMBER IT, WE WERE IN THE CONVENTION CENTER AND MR.
12:20:25PM DANIELS TOOK HIS SHIRT OFF.
12:20:27PM OKAY.
12:20:28PM BUT IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS THAT.
12:20:30PM SO THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:20:31PM THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT OF 216 UNITS.
12:20:36PM THESE BLUE SPOTS WERE NOTIFIED.
12:20:40PM THIS ORANGE ONE IS THE ONLY ENTRANCE TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:20:44PM OKAY?
12:20:45PM WE WILL BE MEETING THOSE FOLKS EVERY SINGLE DAY IN MY
12:20:49PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:20:50PM THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I CAME HERE.
12:20:51PM I WANT TO SHOW UP ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
12:20:56PM LET'S LOOK AT THIS FOR JUST A SECOND.

12:20:58PM SO THIS SLIDE HERE -- AND I AM SORRY FOR MY PRETTY
12:21:03PM COLORING -- BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE 250-FOOT LINE IS
12:21:07PM RIGHT THERE, OKAY?
12:21:08PM EVERYBODY WITHIN THAT LINE DOESN'T KNOW.
12:21:15PM THESE ARE 205 APARTMENTS.
12:21:17PM THIS IS A SECONDARY STREET RIGHT HERE.
12:21:19PM OKAY?
12:21:21PM AND IF YOU GO OUT TO BID, THE CITY STAFF CREATED A DIFFERENT
12:21:26PM DRAWING THAT GOES OUT TO A THOUSAND FEET.
12:21:29PM I PERSONALLY HANDED OUT A FLYER TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO
12:21:34PM LIVED ON THOSE STREETS.
12:21:36PM I BELIEVE THAT'S THE TIME PEOPLE COULDN'T CALL ANYMORE, IF I
12:21:42PM REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
12:21:43PM BUT ALL THOSE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE IMPACTED BY THIS, EVERY
12:21:48PM SINGLE DAY, HAVE NO NOTIFICATION.
12:21:50PM THAT'S NOT FAIR.
12:21:52PM AND THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE LONG-TIME HOMEOWNERS.
12:21:55PM AND I ALSO WANT TO SHOW YOU FOR THAT EXACT SAME PROJECT,
12:22:00PM HERE IS WHAT IT COST THEM TO SEND IT OUT.
12:22:04PM 12.47, 11.18.
12:22:08PM THAT'S $23. IT ROUGHLY COSTS 55-CENT FOR A STAMP, DOUBLE
12:22:13PM THAT, $46.
12:22:16PM THAT'S WHAT THAT DEVELOPER HAD TO SEND OUT FOR NOTIFICATION.
12:22:18PM IS IT GOING TO MAKE THAT BIG A DEAL?
12:22:21PM I'M SORRY, YOU SPENT MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

12:22:24PM BUILDING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND THIS NOT GOING TO PUT A
12:22:27PM BURDEN ON YOU.
12:22:28PM SORRY.
12:22:28PM AND WE LEARNED THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT CAN BE GIVEN.
12:22:36PM THE REASON WHY WE WANT THIS CHANGE HAS NOTHING TO DO
12:22:38PM WITH LEGAL STANDING. IT REALLY DOESN'T.
12:22:41PM IT MAKES SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE KNOW WHAT'S
12:22:43PM GOING ON.
12:22:44PM WE HAVE ALSO ASKED IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS NOT
12:22:48PM SPLIT UP THAT THEY CONTACT T.H.A.N.
12:22:52PM THAT WAS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S IDEA AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT
12:22:57PM IDEA.
12:22:57PM TWO DAYS AGO WE GOT A CALL ABOUT THE AGENDA TONIGHT, THE
12:23:01PM SECOND READING.
12:23:01PM THE THING ABOUT IT IS WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT SO WE CAN'T
12:23:05PM HELP THOSE FOLKS.
12:23:06PM SO BOTTOM LINE IS, WE ARE WILL TO TAKE ON SOME OF THAT,
12:23:09PM BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE PICK UP THEIR PHONE
12:23:11PM AND THEY CALL THE DEVELOPER WHO TELLS THEM, OH, WE ARE NOT
12:23:15PM GOING TO DO ANYTHING.
12:23:16PM AND THAT HAPPENED TO ME PERSONALLY BEFORE I EVER WALKED
12:23:19PM THROUGH THE DOORS OF CITY COUNCIL.
12:23:20PM [BELL SOUNDS]
12:23:25PM OH, WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING
12:23:27PM ABOUT IT. THAT'S THE STORY AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT.

12:23:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:23:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. POYNOR, CAN YOU PUT THAT BACK UP?
12:23:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
12:23:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THOUGHT I WAS, SIR.
12:23:43PM THANK YOU FOR THE PERMISSION.
12:23:44PM >> THIS ONE?
12:23:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MA'AM.
12:23:48PM SO YOUR BIG RED SCHEMATIC IN THE MIDDLE, IS THAT A PROPERTY
12:23:52PM THAT IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED?
12:23:54PM >> IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED.
12:23:56PM I THINK THEY HAVE ALREADY GOT THE PO ON IT.
12:23:59PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO YOU SAID --
12:24:00PM >> THE RED IS THE NOTICE LINE.
12:24:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND YOUR PERMIT GOES OUT TO 500?
12:24:08PM >> NO, THAT'S A THOUSAND.
12:24:09PM AT SO POINT CITY COUNCIL ASKED FOR THE THOUSAND-FOOT MARK TO
12:24:13PM BE PUT ON ALL OF THEIR REZONINGS AND THAT WAS BACK WHEN MARY
12:24:18PM SANTIAGO WAS STILL HERE.
12:24:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GLAD I SAW THAT, BECAUSE SOMETIMES
12:24:25PM SEEING A VISUAL MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
12:24:29PM PEOPLE ARE VISUAL LEARNERS AT TIMES.
12:24:31PM AND WITH YOU SHOWING THAT DESIGN RIGHT THERE, MAYBE THIS
12:24:37PM DISCUSSION FOR A WORKSHOP BECAUSE I AM LOOKING AT A BIGGER
12:24:39PM PICTURE NOW THAN WHAT I WAS IMAGINING AS, YOU KNOW.
12:24:43PM AND IT'S A DIFFERENT SCHEMATIC WITH A DIFFERENT KIND -- SO

12:24:48PM THANK YOU FOR THE DRAWING.
12:24:49PM >> THIS HERE, I OWN IT AND YOU SHOULD SEE THE INCREASE IN
12:24:53PM TRAFFIC.
12:24:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:24:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU PUT THAT UP?
12:24:59PM AND THIS IS WHY, I MEAN, THE NUMBERS SOUND GOOD, BUT WHEN
12:25:03PM YOU SEE THAT MOST OF THAT IS TREES AND ROAD, AND HART, SO I
12:25:09PM KNOW THAT THE OTHER THING I THREW OUT THERE WAS MAIN JUST
12:25:14PM THE NUMBER OF HOMES BUT I THINK THAT BECOMES TOO CONFUSING.
12:25:17PM SO I THINK 500.
12:25:19PM SO WHEN STAFF COMES BACK WITH IT, IF THEY COULD HAVE A
12:25:24PM SCHEMATIC FOR US THAT SHOWS 250 VERSUS 500 VERSUS 1,000,
12:25:30PM JUST SO WE ARE ABLE TO SEE THAT -- I'M SORRY --
12:25:36PM >> NO, I HAVE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE
12:25:38PM TO SHOW YOU.
12:25:39PM THESE HOUSES ARE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:25:43PM SO THE REST OF THIS PROPERTY, ALL THE WAY TO INTERBAY,
12:25:47PM BELONGS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:25:50PM IT DOES NOT BELONG TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:25:52PM WE ARE HOA.
12:25:53PM THAT BELONGS TO THE CITY.
12:25:56PM SO WHO ARE YOU NOTIFYING?
12:25:58PM YOU ARE NOTIFYING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY?
12:26:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXACTLY.
12:26:02PM AND THAT WAS THE POINT, THAT MAP THAT YOU HAD EARLIER IT

12:26:08PM DEMONSTRATES THE NEED FOR AN EXPANSION OF THIS SPACE.
12:26:13PM SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
12:26:14PM >> THANK YOU.
12:26:18PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD MORNING.
12:26:24PM STEVE MICHELINI, 2407 SUNSET DRIVE.
12:26:27PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE
12:26:29PM AFFECTING ALL OF THE PETITIONS, AND I KNOW THAT WE PROVIDED
12:26:36PM YOU WITH A DEMONSTRATION AND A DIAGRAM SHOWING YOU THE
12:26:40PM IMPACT WHERE THE RADIUS BE INCREASED, TRIPLED OR QUADRUPLED
12:26:48PM THE COST.
12:26:49PM IT'S NOT $24.
12:26:50PM YOU HAVE TO ADD THE STAFF TIME AND THE COPIES AND THE
12:26:53PM WHATEVER.
12:26:53PM BUT YOU ARE CHANGING THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS FOR 1350 FEET,
12:26:59PM AND YOU ARE CHANGING THE COST FROM 2 OR $300 PER NOTICE TO
12:27:04PM SOMETHING LIKE $900 TO $1,000 FOR THE NOTICE.
12:27:08PM AND THAT DIDN'T INCLUDE TIME AND LABOR.
12:27:11PM FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.
12:27:13PM GENERALLY, I THINK THAT 300 FEET INCREASING IT IS NOT A BIG
12:27:17PM ISSUE.
12:27:18PM AND I DON'T THINK THAT INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE SIGN IS A
12:27:21PM BIG ISSUE.
12:27:24PM ADD $50 OR WHATEVER TO THE PETITION FEE FOR YOU PAY FOR THE
12:27:28PM ADDITIONAL SIZE OF THE SIGN, BUT PROVIDE THE METAL STEAKS SO
12:27:31PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO AND BUY METAL STAKES SEPARATELY SO WHEN

12:27:35PM YOU ARE GETTING YOUR SIGNS YOU GET THE METAL HANGERS THAT
12:27:40PM SUPPORT THOSE SIGNS.
12:27:42PM I THINK THAT THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION SHOULD BE INCLUDED
12:27:46PM ON -- CARROLL ANN BENNETT MENTIONED SHE WAS MEETING WITH
12:27:49PM THREE LAND USE ATTORNEYS.
12:27:50PM SHE DID NOT MENTION THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH I THINK
12:27:53PM IS IMPORTANT.
12:27:56PM THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT AFFECTED, INCLUDING
12:27:58PM SMALL PROPERTY OWNERS, THAT APPLY FOR VARIANCES, AND ALL
12:28:03PM KIND OF DIFFERENT THINGS, ARC AND BLC, AND YOU ARE PUTTING
12:28:10PM THOSE PEOPLE INTO THE SAME CATEGORY AS SOME OF THE LARGER
12:28:14PM PROJECTS.
12:28:14PM AND I KNOW THAT STEPHANIE POYNOR SHOWED YOU A MAP.
12:28:19PM THOSE ARE UNIQUE PROPERTIES WHERE YOU HAVE IN THE SOUTH
12:28:23PM GANDY AREA, WHERE YOU HAVE LARGE TRACKS OF LAND WHERE YOU
12:28:26PM DON'T AFFECT MANY PEOPLE.
12:28:27PM BUT THE REST OF THE CITY IS NOT DEVELOPED THAT WAY.
12:28:31PM IT IS A VERY INTENSE AND DENSELY POPULATED CITY.
12:28:36PM AND WHEN YOU INCREASE THAT SIGN THAT ALSO HAVE TO SHOW THAT
12:28:41PM THOSE PEOPLE ARE IMPACTED IN SOME WAY.
12:28:43PM THE STATE LAW SAYS THAT IF YOU INCREASE THE NOTICE AREA, YOU
12:28:46PM HAVE TO SHOW HOW THEY ARE IMPACTED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
12:28:51PM THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE SHOWING UP ATERS THIS HEARINGS WHETHER
12:28:53PM THEY GOT THE NOTICE OR NOT.
12:28:54PM THEY CAN'T CLAIM THEY DIDN'T GET NOTICE WHEN THEY SHOW UP

12:28:57PM AND SAY THEY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THESE PETITIONS, WHETHER
12:29:00PM THEY ARE RENTERS OR NOT.
12:29:02PM AND IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO TRACK.
12:29:06PM I THINK THE STAFF TOLD YOU AND LEGAL DEPARTMENT TOLD YOU
12:29:08PM THERE'S NO WAY OF IDENTIFYING THEM.
12:29:11PM BUT RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE THAT COME IN TRY TO MAKE
12:29:15PM SURE THAT THERE'S AN ADVERSE IMPACT, WOULD ALWAYS RESPOND TO
12:29:19PM THE PHONE CALLS, WE ALWAYS RESPOND TO E-MAILS, WE ARE
12:29:23PM ACCEPTING THEIR CRITICISM OR NOT.
12:29:25PM BUT WE DO RESPOND.
12:29:26PM SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
12:29:27PM [BELL SOUNDS]
12:29:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:29:30PM >> KAMI CORBETT WITH LAW FIRM OF HILL WARD HENDERSON, 101
12:29:37PM EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, SUITE 3700.
12:29:39PM THAT WAS MY BABY.
12:29:40PM I THOUGHT IT WOULD TELL COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WHO WAS NOT HERE
12:29:45PM FOR THAT REZONING CASE.
12:29:47PM THAT PROPERTY IS AN ANOMALY.
12:29:48PM IT HAS THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
12:29:50PM BUT WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEFORE WE FILED THAT
12:29:53PM APPLICATION.
12:29:53PM WE ACTUALLY CONTINUED THAT CASE ONE TIME, TO CONTINUE TO
12:29:56PM MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY.
12:29:58PM OUR ASSOCIATION WITH THE PORT OF TAMPA, WE INCLUDED THE

12:30:04PM PEOPLE, WE INCLUDED THEIR NAMES.
12:30:06PM SO AS THERE IS NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN, MOST APPLICANTS DO MEET
12:30:10PM WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE DO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE
12:30:12PM INFORMED.
12:30:13PM DEFINITELY SUPPORT THE LARGER SIGNS, AND ANY EFFORTS, ANY
12:30:17PM EFFORTS WE CAN DO TO HELP COMMUNICATION.
12:30:19PM THAT'S GREAT.
12:30:20PM I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT A LARGE NOTICE AREA LIKE 1320, BUT
12:30:24PM I AM SCHEDULED TO TRY TO GET A MEETING WITH STEPHANIE AND
12:30:28PM CARROLL ANN, AND HOPEFULLY WITH PROBABLY JAKE CRAMER AND
12:30:34PM HAVE ONGOING DIALOGUES.
12:30:36PM SO HOPEFULLY WHEN IT COMES BACK EVERYBODY IS ALL IN
12:30:38PM AGREEMENT.
12:30:38PM THANK YOU.
12:30:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
12:30:47PM WHAT WOULD BE YOUR SUGGESTION AS RELATES TO THE SIGN?
12:30:53PM >> THE SIGNS?
12:30:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE DISTANCE.
12:30:55PM >> THE DISTANCE?
12:30:57PM I'M FINE WITH THE 300 FEET.
12:30:58PM I THINK WHEN YOU GO BEYOND 500 FEET, NOT WITH THESE ANOMALY
12:31:03PM PROPERTIES BUT WITHIN THE URBAN AREA OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
12:31:06PM SMALLER LOTS, SMALLER PARCELS, YOU RUN THE RISK OF DILUTING
12:31:10PM THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE SO NOTICE.
12:31:12PM IF YOU SEND TOO MANY NOTICES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY ARE

12:31:14PM GOING TO LOSE TRACK OF, IS THIS REALLY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD,
12:31:18PM IS THIS NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD?
12:31:22PM BEFORE, I HAD A FRIEND WHO LIVES IN A UNIT THAT WAS OWNED BY
12:31:25PM A NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
12:31:27PM PRESIDENT.
12:31:28PM HE SAYS HE GET SO MANY NOTICES HE DOESN'T EVEN LOOK AT THEM
12:31:31PM ANYMORE.
12:31:31PM SO YOU DO DILUTE THE EFFECTIVENESS AND I THINK THAT'S WHY
12:31:35PM THE LARGER SIGNS, THAT'S WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING AROUND YOUR
12:31:37PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAY, OH, SOMETHING IS HAPPENING ON THAT
12:31:39PM PROPERTY.
12:31:40PM HE GETS A NOTICE I UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM GETTING WHEN I
12:31:45PM RECEIVE ONE OF THOSE.
12:31:46PM A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE.
12:31:48PM SO I THINK THE LARGER SIGNS IS A BETTER ALTERNATIVE TO
12:31:51PM EXPANDING.
12:31:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH STAFF TO DO AN AREA
12:31:58PM OF THE AREAS THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED, AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT
12:32:02PM THAT WOULD BE.
12:32:07PM 3, 5, I KNOW I HEARD A THOUSAND.
12:32:10PM LET'S LOOK AT WHAT IS THE MEDIAN AREA FOR COMPROMISE FOR THE
12:32:14PM DEVELOPERS AND THE CITIZENS.
12:32:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, MS. CORBETT.
12:32:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:32:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO AGAIN, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO

12:32:26PM HAVE A DISCUSSION TO TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES, BUT WITH
12:32:32PM YOUR RECOMMENDATION, THEY INCLUDE, SAY, 300 FEET FOR A
12:32:37PM REGULAR PROPERTY, BUT TO MR. MICHELINI'S POINT AS WELL WHEN
12:32:46PM YOU HAVE THESE LARGER MORE ANOMALIES, THAT'S WHEN SOMETHING
12:32:48PM MAY BE LARGER COULD GO INTO EFFECT, MAYBE 500 FEET.
12:32:52PM >> I THINK THAT'S DIFFICULT TO TELL, AND YOU GET INTO
12:32:56PM PARSING ANY NUMBER YOU PICK IS ARBITRARY, SO IF YOU SAY TWO
12:33:00PM ACRES, IT'S TWO ACRES, IF IT'S THREE ACRES.
12:33:03PM WHATEVER YOU DECIDE.
12:33:04PM I THINK IT'S BETTER TO HAVE THE UNIFORMITY, AND THEN ALSO
12:33:07PM AGAIN FOCUS ON THE LARGER SIGNS SO PEOPLE IN THE
12:33:09PM NEIGHBORHOOD CAN NO WHAT IS GOING ON.
12:33:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND FOR STAFF ANOTHER THING THAT MS. CORBETT
12:33:18PM BROUGHT UP, IT'S VERY RELEVANT, AS A FORMER NEIGHBORHOOD
12:33:21PM LEADER WHO USED TO GET THESE, THEY AREN'T VERY CLEAR.
12:33:24PM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN CHANGE THE LANGUAGE
12:33:28PM TO BETTER EXPLAIN WHAT IS ACTUALLY OCCURRING IN LAY PERSON'S
12:33:36PM TERMS.
12:33:36PM I KNOW THAT LEGALLY WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A CERTAIN
12:33:39PM DEFINITION, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO
12:33:44PM LOOK AT A NOTICE THAT A LAY PERSON MIGHT UNDERSTAND AND IT
12:33:50PM LOOKS LIKE MRS. TRAVIS, I SEE YOU COMING UP.
12:33:54PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU IN JANUARY, WE
12:33:57PM HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, WHAT DOES THE NOTICE
12:34:00PM LOOK LIKE, CAN WE HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING, SOME LEGAL

12:34:03PM REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE ARE INCLUDED IN THE
12:34:05PM NOTICE.
12:34:06PM BUT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT, SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE SEE THE
12:34:10PM SAME THING OVER AND OVER, MAYBE CHANGE THE LOOK, THE COLOR
12:34:12PM OR SOMETHING MAY HELP.
12:34:13PM BUT ONE THING TO REMEMBER IS WE ALSO HAVE AN INTERACTIVE
12:34:17PM MAP.
12:34:17PM PEOPLE CAN GO TO THE SITE, IF YOU PUT IN YOUR ADDRESS YOU
12:34:20PM CAN SEE WHAT APPLICATIONS ARE AROUND THE PROPERTY.
12:34:24PM SO WE ARE GOING TO START COMMUNICATING THAT TOOL A LOT MORE
12:34:28PM SO THAT OUR CITIZENS KNOW HOW TO ENGAGE AND BE A PART OF THE
12:34:33PM PROCESS.
12:34:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALSO THEN, MAYBE THINKING ABOUT THE LETTER,
12:34:36PM BEING ABLE TO INCLUDE THAT AT THE BOTTOM OF IT, SOMETHING
12:34:39PM LIKE THAT.
12:34:39PM SO I DEFINITELY SEE THIS AS BEING PART OF RETOOL IT AND I
12:34:47PM THINK THAT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR THE JANUARY --
12:34:50PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE VERY HELPFUL.
12:34:51PM WHEN YOU ARE DOING THIS WORK FOR A LONG TIME IT'S JUST THE
12:34:55PM WAY WE HAVE ENGAGED CITIZENS, AND IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT
12:34:59PM REFRESH AND LOOK AT LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, BUT HOW CAN WE
12:35:03PM IMPROVE.
12:35:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT'S PERFECT.
12:35:05PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:35:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.

12:35:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A CLARIFICATION, IF I CAN.
12:35:12PM THE FORM OF THE NOTICE IS NOT REALLY SET OUT IN THE CODE,
12:35:15PM BUT I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY, DID YOU SAY YOU ARE GOING TO
12:35:21PM BE BRINGING IT TO THE JANUARY?
12:35:24PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE MADE THAT ARE NOT
12:35:27PM DICTATED BY CODE, I WOULD LET COUNCIL KNOW WHAT THAT CHANGE
12:35:33PM WOULD BE.
12:35:34PM SO IT'S NOT DICTATED IN CODE, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT BEING
12:35:39PM RESPONSIVE TO WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE SAYING, SO THAT THEY
12:35:42PM UNDERSTAND, SO THAT COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS WHAT CHANGES NEED TO
12:35:45PM BE MADE, WE ARE GOING TO BRING THAT BACK.
12:35:47PM IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ASKING?
12:35:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
12:35:50PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: OKAY.
12:35:51PM >> KEN REALI, EAST JACKSON STREET.
12:36:01PM I WOULD SUGGEST TO COUNCIL THAT IN CONSIDERING THIS, I THINK
12:36:04PM THAT THE NOTICE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WILL HAVE A
12:36:09PM MUCH GREATER EFFECT IN DICTATING THE SIZE OF THIS BOUNDARY
12:36:13PM FOR ALL THE REASONS STATED BEFORE.
12:36:15PM FOR EXAMPLE I AM HERE FOR TWO ITEMS TODAY.
12:36:17PM ONE IS AFFECTING A RELATIVELY LARGE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT,
12:36:22PM THAT HAS ALMOST NO IMPACT ON THAT BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION.
12:36:27PM I AM ALSO HERE FOR READAPTIVE REUSE OF A VERY SMALL PROJECT
12:36:30PM NEAR AN URBAN AREA WHERE THAT WOULD PROBABLY QUADRUPLE THE
12:36:34PM NOTICE REQUIREMENT.

12:36:34PM SO THOSE ARE GOING TO BE CIRCUMSTANTIAL BUT WITH THE
12:36:41PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, IN NOTIFYING THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND
12:36:45PM NOTIFY CONSISTENTLY, AND I THINK WE WILL HAVE MORE OF AN
12:36:48PM IMPACT THAN GOING VERY, VERY BROAD WITH THE NOTICE MAILINGS.
12:36:51PM THANK YOU.
12:36:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO
12:36:57PM THIS?
12:37:04PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
12:37:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
12:37:08PM I AM NOT SURE OF THE DATE OF THAT WE WOULD COME BACK IN
12:37:10PM JANUARY.
12:37:11PM DO WE HAVE A DATE FOR THAT?
12:37:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE OCTOBER
12:37:20PM WORKSHOP?
12:37:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:37:22PM YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN HERE.
12:37:24PM THEY ASKED FOR JANUARY.
12:37:25PM >>CATE WELLS: IF IT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE JANUARY
12:37:29PM AMENDMENT CYCLE AND WE DON'T HAVE A DATE CERTAIN AT THIS
12:37:32PM POINT BUT JANUARY 15th IS THE CUT-OFF FOR ALL AMENDMENT
12:37:35PM THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT CYCLE.
12:37:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT JANUARY 2nd?
12:37:51PM I AM LOOKING FOR A DATE.
12:37:53PM >> THE DEADLINE IS JANUARY 15th AND THAT WOULD DICTATE
12:37:56PM THE SCHEDULE COMING BEFORE COUNCIL.

12:37:58PM BUT YOUR MOTION COULD BE TO INCLUDE THESE AMENDMENT FOR
12:38:01PM DISCUSSION IN THE JANUARY 2023 CYCLE.
12:38:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN I AM GOING TO TAKE THE WORDS OUT OF HER
12:38:07PM MOUTH.
12:38:07PM >> SECOND.
12:38:09PM >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU.
12:38:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECONDED BY
12:38:13PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:38:15PM FURTHER DISCUSSION?
12:38:16PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:38:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:38:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:38:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:38:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:38:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:38:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:38:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:38:31PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:38:32PM >> WE ARE IN RECESS TILL 1:30.
12:38:39PM [ RECESS ]
12:38:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: (NO AUDIBLE RESPONSE)
1:34:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
1:34:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: (NO AUDIBLE RESPONSE)
1:34:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
1:34:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

1:34:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
1:34:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
1:34:59PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:35:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NUMBER 18.
1:35:29PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: NUMBER 17, I DID PREPARE A RESOLUTION, IF
1:35:35PM COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE THAT NUMBER 17 BEFORE YOU OPEN 18,
1:35:39PM SIR.
1:35:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DID WE DO ITEM 16?
1:35:51PM 18.
1:35:51PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I BELIEVE THAT WAS CONTINUED.
1:35:54PM >> SO THE NEXT ITEM IS TO HAVE A RESOLUTION JUST BY TITLE?
1:36:15PM AND DID WE ALSO MOVE 16?
1:36:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SINCE WE HAVE THE OFFICER HERE LET'S GO TO
1:36:38PM 18 AND THEN BACK TO 17 WHICH WAS OKAYED EARLIER.
1:36:41PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
1:36:44PM HOW ARE YOU?
1:36:45PM SO SPEAKING TO ITEM NUMBER 18, REGARDING NOTIFICATIONS FOR
1:36:51PM PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND DAYCARES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, WE WERE
1:36:57PM TASKED WITH FINDING A SOLUTION TO SEE HOW WE COULD BETTER
1:37:00PM NOTIFY THESE INSTITUTIONS WHEN WE HAD INCIDENTS THAT TOOK
1:37:03PM PLACE WITHIN THEIR AREA.
1:37:06PM SO WHAT WE CAME UP WITH LOOKING INTO IT IS THAT WE HAVE A
1:37:09PM COUPLE SYSTEMS.
1:37:11PM ONE OF THEM WAS ALERT TAMPA, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR EVERGRID
1:37:19PM SYSTEMS, THE PRIMARY METHOD OF NOTIFYING CITIZENS OF THOSE

1:37:20PM TYPES OF SITUATIONS, SIMILAR TO LIKE A REVERSE 911.
1:37:24PM IF SOMETHING GOES OUT WE CAN USE THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA
1:37:28PM BOUNDARY AND WE CAN CALL THOSE PEOPLE WITHIN THAT AREA THAT
1:37:32PM PEOPLE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT WHATEVER INCIDENT TAKES
1:37:35PM PLACE AND GET INSTRUCTIONS.
1:37:37PM WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE FEEL IS THE BEST SOLUTION WHICH IS A
1:37:40PM TPD COMMUNICATIONS CENTER THAT MAINTAINS A LIST OF PRIVATE
1:37:43PM SCHOOLS AND DAYCARES, AND WHAT WE FEEL WE CAN DO WITH THAT,
1:37:46PM THAT LIST IS ALREADY CREATED, BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS NEED
1:37:50PM TO GO BACK INTO THAT LIST AND SEE IF WE CAN'T FIRST BOLSTER
1:37:54PM THAT LIST AND INCREASE IT.
1:37:56PM SO I'M SURE IT NEEDS TO BE GONE OVER AND ASSESSED FOR
1:37:59PM INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE NO LONGER IN EXISTENCE, AS WELL AS
1:38:02PM ONES THAT HAVE THOUGHT RECEIVED THE INFORMATION AND PROVIDED
1:38:05PM IT.
1:38:05PM THEY CAN PROVIDE THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION, AND WE CAN GROW
1:38:09PM THAT LIST.
1:38:10PM WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR BUSINESS TAX TEAM, PARTNERING WITH
1:38:13PM THEM, TO GO AHEAD AND USE INFORMATION FROM THEIR DATABASE TO
1:38:17PM GO AHEAD AND ALSO POPULATE THAT LIST.
1:38:19PM AND EVEN TODAY, WORKING WITH THE SEVA LIST, TWO LISTS AS A
1:38:26PM MATTER OF FACT WE ARE ABLE TO ASSESS THAT LIST AND MAKE IT
1:38:29PM BETTER.
1:38:30PM WE ALSO HAVE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS A VERY ROBUST SYSTEM OF
1:38:35PM ALERT SYSTEM NOTIFICATION WHERE THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND ALERT

1:38:39PM ALL OF THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE ON THEIR LIST FOR, FOR LEGAL
1:38:45PM REASONS WE CAN'T AND THEY WILL NOT ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR
1:38:48PM DOING THAT FOR PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS
1:38:51PM MIRROR THAT SAME SYSTEM.
1:38:52PM IF AN ALERT SHOULD GO OUT FROM THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, IT
1:38:56PM WILL BE TRANSMITTED OVER TO OUR COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION,
1:39:01PM THEN THEY CAN USE THE LIST THAT WE HAVE FOR THE PRIVATE
1:39:04PM INSTITUTIONS IN SCHOOLS AND DAYCARES, AND WE COULD TAKE THAT
1:39:07PM SAME MESSAGE AND USE THAT SYSTEM TO PUMP OUT THAT SAME
1:39:10PM MESSAGE TO THOSE INSTITUTIONS AS WELL.
1:39:13PM SO IT IS NOT THE SAME SYSTEM BUT WE CAN USE THAT SAME METHOD
1:39:18PM ALONG WITH OUR LIST TO DO THAT.
1:39:21PM AND IF THERE IS A DYNAMIC INCIDENT WHERE SOMETHING
1:39:25PM EGREGIOUS, SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS IN NATURE, THEN WE WOULD
1:39:29PM DO THAT ANYTIME THAT OFFICERS WOULD GO OUT AND IF THEY
1:39:32PM IDENTIFY THE SCHOOL IN CLOSE PROXIMITY THEY COULD JUST MAKE
1:39:35PM CONTACT WITH THAT SCHOOL IF THE DIRE NEED IS THERE.
1:39:38PM THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND DO THAT AND LET THEM KNOW
1:39:41PM TO EITHER SHELTER IN PLACE, GO INTO A MODIFIED LOCKDOWN,
1:39:45PM ET CETERA.
1:39:46PM SO THIS SYSTEM DOES EXIST, AND I THINK WHERE WE CAN GET
1:39:50PM BETTER AT IT IS JUST TO ADD THE LIST AND GET IT UPDATED.
1:39:54PM AND WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR PARTNERS TO DO THAT TO
1:39:58PM GET IT UPDATED.
1:39:59PM WE ALSO HAVE POLICIES FROM OUR CIB, OUR CRIMINAL

1:40:03PM INVESTIGATIONS BUREAUS, SO THEY RESPOND TO SAFETY
1:40:06PM ASSESSMENTS AND RESPONSE TO THREATS AT SCHOOLS, AND THAT
1:40:09PM PROCESS, WHAT THEY WOULD DO WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT
1:40:12PM THEY WOULD DO FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL OR A PUBLIC SCHOOL.
1:40:15PM SO IF THERE'S AN INCIDENCE WHERE A CALL OR THREAT COMES INTO
1:40:18PM A PRIVATE OR PUBLIC SCHOOL WE WOULD INVESTIGATE THOSE THE
1:40:21PM SAME.
1:40:22PM WE ALSO HAVE HAYSTACKS WHICH IS A DIGITAL SANDBOX PROGRAM
1:40:26PM WITH CRITICAL STRUCTURE USES.
1:40:29PM MOSTLY RIGHT NOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT USES THAT, AND WE SHARE
1:40:33PM AMONGST THE AGENCIES, AND THEY ARE ABLE TO DO ASSESSMENTS OF
1:40:37PM SCHOOLS AND COMMUNICATE WITH THEM.
1:40:39PM SO WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PROGRAMS VARIABLE OF THAT WE DO USE,
1:40:43PM AND WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON THE ONE CONTROL BY OUR
1:40:48PM COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION TO GET THAT ONE JUST UPDATED SO WE
1:40:52PM CAN BETTER SERVES THE CITIZENS WHEN SOMETHING DOES GO ON IN
1:40:57PM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:41:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:41:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DID MAJOR BENNETT OR CITY ATTORNEY NEWCOMB
1:41:06PM BRIEF YOU ON OUR DISCUSSIONS YESTERDAY?
1:41:08PM >> YES.
1:41:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH IT BUT I
1:41:12PM THINK CHIEF BENNETT IS ABLE -- ME BEING RETIRED, I KNOW WHAT
1:41:17PM WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T, AND FILL IN THAT PARTICULAR GAP WHEN
1:41:23PM WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY, I THINK WE'LL SOLVE THE PROBLEM

1:41:26PM OF PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND DAYCARES BEING NOTIFIED.
1:41:33PM ASSISTANT ATTORNEY NEWCOMB WASN'T EVEN AWARE OF THAT.
1:41:36PM CHIEF BENNETT JUMPED IN AND SAID HE UNDERSTOOD WRITE WAS
1:41:40PM GOING, AND I AM HOPING TO BUILD ON THAT GAP, PHONE CALLS TO
1:41:44PM GET THAT PARTICULAR GAP FILLED.
1:41:46PM >> YES, SIR.
1:41:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THAT WILL BE GREAT, AND I WON'T
1:41:50PM GET CALLS FROM DAYCARES AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN THE AREA WHEN
1:41:53PM SOMETHING HAPPENS AND A GUY COMES AND KNOCKS ON THEIR DOOR.
1:41:58PM THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THE MOTION UP.
1:42:03PM SOMETIMES WE CAN -- HOPEFULLY WE'LL BRING THE SYSTEM UP, AND
1:42:11PM MAKE SURE THE LIST IS UPDATED.
1:42:13PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
1:42:15PM THANKS.
1:42:15PM >> TO SPEAK TO THAT, I WOULD SAY THAT OFTENTIMES THE
1:42:19PM OFFICERS ARE TASKED WITH HANDLING THE SITUATION, BY BRINGING
1:42:22PM COMMUNICATIONS INTO IT, IT ALLOWS THE OFFICERS TO HANDLE THE
1:42:25PM SITUATION AND/OR THREAT AND LET COMMUNICATIONS DO THE
1:42:28PM NOTIFICATIONS.
1:42:29PM IN THE EVENT THAT A SCHOOL, A PUBLIC SCHOOL ALERT DIDN'T GO
1:42:32PM OUT, WHICH IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY, BUT IF IT DID HAPPEN, THEN
1:42:36PM OFFICERS ON SCENE OUR SHIFT COMMANDER CAN STILL CALL
1:42:38PM COMMUNICATIONS, DEAL WITH THE THREAT AT HAND BUT ALSO MAKE
1:42:41PM THAT CALL IF YOU NEED COMMUNICATIONS TO GET THAT BALL
1:42:43PM ROLLING, SO THE INFORMATION DOES GET PASSED OUT.

1:42:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
1:42:50PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:42:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, BECAUSE I AM JUST
1:42:53PM CURIOUS.
1:42:54PM YOU MENTIONED THE ALERT SYSTEM, THE REVERSE CALL.
1:42:58PM DOES THAT WORK FOR CELL PHONES?
1:43:01PM OR -- BECAUSE NO ONE HAS A LANDLINE ANYMORE.
1:43:05PM WHEN YOU SAID THAT I AM CURIOUS HOW IT WORKERS.
1:43:08PM >> SO PEOPLE HAVE TO REGISTER FOR THAT PROGRAM.
1:43:10PM SO WHATEVER PHONE NUMBER THEY PROVIDED, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY
1:43:13PM RIGHT.
1:43:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
1:43:15PM I WAS JUST -- THANKS.
1:43:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:43:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND SCHOOLS SHOULD HAVE A LANDLINE.
1:43:27PM THOSE PRIVATE SCHOOLS WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
1:43:29PM >> YES.
1:43:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
1:43:34PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:43:35PM DO WE HAVE STAFF HERE FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17, FILE CM
1:43:39PM 22-77570?
1:43:42PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THERE IS A RESOLUTION IN RESPONSE TO THE
1:43:58PM BUDGET HEARING FOR ITEM 17.
1:44:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
1:44:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

1:44:08PM SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
1:44:09PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
1:44:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
1:44:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
1:44:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
1:44:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
1:44:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
1:44:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
1:44:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
1:44:19PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:44:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 19, FILE HL-22-76263.
1:44:26PM >>ELAINE LUND: ELAINE LUND, WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION
1:44:34PM STAFF, FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER -- DID YOU SAY 18 OR 19?
1:44:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 19.
1:44:42PM >>ELAINE LUND: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
1:44:43PM THE ITEM BEFORE YOU, I HAVE A PowerPoint PRESENTATION THAT
1:44:46PM WAS TRANSMITTED.
1:44:48PM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THAT AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW, BUT IF
1:44:51PM NOT I WILL GO AHEAD AND GET THIS ON THE OVERHEAD.
1:44:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT'S UP.
1:44:55PM >>ELAINE LUND: IT'S UP?
1:44:57PM OKAY. WONDERFUL.
1:44:57PM THIS ITEM IS FOR THE LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION AT
1:45:00PM THE BUSTILLO BROTHERS AND DIAZ CIGAR AT 2111 NORTH ALBANY
1:45:08PM AVENUE IN WEST TAMPA.

1:45:11PM THE WEST TAMPA DEVELOPMENT GROUP SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION
1:45:14PM FOR LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
1:45:17PM AND THESE APPLICATIONS ARE REVIEWED BY THE HISTORIC
1:45:19PM PRESERVATION COMMISSION TO ENSURE THAT THEY MEET THE
1:45:22PM CRITERIA LISTED IN SECTION 27-257 OF THE CITY'S CODE OF
1:45:26PM ORDINANCES.
1:45:28PM HERE YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE OF THE FACTORY FROM ABOUT 1902
1:45:34PM WHICH IS THE YEAR THAT THE FACTORY WAS CONSTRUCTED.
1:45:38PM LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROVIDES MULTIPLE BENEFITS, BUT
1:45:42PM IN THIS CASE I BELIEVE IT PARTICULARLY SAFEGUARDS THE
1:45:47PM HERITAGE OF THE CITY BY PRESERVING AND REGULATING ITS
1:45:51PM HISTORIC BUILDINGS.
1:45:52PM THE CIGAR INDUSTRY IN TAMPA AS MOST OF US ARE WELL AWARE WAS
1:45:57PM PRETTY MUCH WHAT BUILT THIS CITY, SO WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO
1:46:01PM BE ABLE TO DESIGNATE AND RETAIN THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE
1:46:06PM TODAY THAT REPRESENT THAT HISTORY.
1:46:10PM HERE YOU SEE THE 1915 SANBORN FIRE INSURANCE COMPANY MAP,
1:46:16PM THIS PORTION OF WEST TAMPA.
1:46:18PM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED ON BOTH THAT MAP AND
1:46:21PM THE PRESENT DAY AERIAL MAP.
1:46:23PM IT'S AT THE CORNER OF 1915 ALBANY WAS FRANCIS AVENUE, AND
1:46:29PM PINE STREET.
1:46:35PM THE BUSTILLO BROTHERS AND DIAZ COMPANY WAS ESTABLISHED IN
1:46:39PM WEST TAMPA AROUND 1895 AND IT WAS FIRST LOCATED AT 13th
1:46:43PM STREET, WHICH IS NOW DELAWARE AVENUE AND GRAY STREET.

1:46:48PM AND THEN THESE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES OF THAT ORIGINAL
1:46:52PM FACTORY AND THE BUSTILLO BROTHERS AND DIAZ THERE.
1:46:59PM AS I STATED, THE BUILDING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY WAS
1:47:04PM BUILT AROUND 1902, DESIGNED BY LOCAL ARCHITECTS MILLER AND
1:47:10PM KINNARD, TYPICAL CIGAR FACTORY FORM, THREE AND A HALF
1:47:14PM STORIES HIGH WITH A HECK TANG LAR EAST-WEST PLAN.
1:47:18PM THE WINDOWS ARE TALL, REGULARLY SPACED, TO ALLOW THE AMOUNT
1:47:21PM OF LIGHT AND AIR THAT WAS NEEDED BY THE CIGAR WORKERS.
1:47:25PM THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING RENAISSANCE REVIVAL DETAILS.
1:47:33PM THE BUSTILLO BROTHERS AND DIAZ COMPANY WAS KNOWN FOR THEIR
1:47:37PM HENRY 4th, ALEXANDER HUMBOLDT AND CIGAR BRANDS AS WELL
1:47:43PM AS MULTIPLE OTHERS AND THIS IS KNOWN AS THE BUSTILLO
1:47:49PM BROTHERS AND CIGAR FACTORY AND WAS KNOWN AT THAT, THROUGH
1:47:52PM THE 1950s WHEN IT WAS OCCUPIED BY THE ANTONIO CIGAR
1:48:00PM COMPANY AND OTHER LIGHT MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIES.
1:48:02PM THE BUILDING IS LOCATED IN THE WEST TAMPA HISTORIC DISTRICT
1:48:06PM AS LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.
1:48:09PM THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE FOR THAT NATIONAL HISTORIC
1:48:12PM DISTRICT IS 1893 TO 1933.
1:48:16PM THEREFORE, THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT DURING THAT PERIOD OF
1:48:19PM SIGNIFICANCE, AND IT IS CONSIDERED A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE
1:48:22PM IN THE NATIONAL REGISTRY DISTRICT.
1:48:28PM THE APPLICANT MADE THEIR APPLICATION ON JANUARY 27th OF
1:48:31PM THIS YEAR, AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION HEARD
1:48:36PM THE APPLICATION AND MADE ITS RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL ON

1:48:39PM MAY 17th.
1:48:40PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THIS APPLICATION TO BE
1:48:43PM CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
1:48:46PM NOTICE FOR THIS HEARING WAS PROVIDED TO THE OWNER, NEARBY
1:48:49PM PROPERTY OWNERS AND REGISTERED ORGANIZATIONS.
1:48:53PM WHEN LOOKING AT THE CITY'S CODE, WE SEE THAT THE BUILDING
1:48:58PM WAS CONSTRUCTED OR ACHIEVED SIGNIFICANCE DURING THE PERIOD
1:49:01PM OF SIGNIFICANCE.
1:49:03PM IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH EVENTS THAT MADE A SIGNIFICANT
1:49:07PM CONTRIBUTION TO THE BROAD PATTERNS OF OUR HISTORY, AND THE
1:49:09PM AREAS OF COMMUNITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, AND IT EMBODIES
1:49:14PM DISTINCT TIER CHAIR STICKS OF THE TIME PERIOD OR METHOD OF
1:49:18PM CONSTRUCTION IN THE AREA OF ARCHITECTURE.
1:49:27PM SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL APPROVE
1:49:30PM THE DESIGNATION OF THE BUSTILLO BROTHERS AND DIAZ CIGAR
1:49:35PM FACTORY AT 2111 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE AS A LOCAL LANDMARK,
1:49:42PM 27-257.
1:49:44PM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE OWNER FOR COMING FORTH WITH THIS
1:49:47PM APPLICATION.
1:49:48PM WE ARE ALWAYS VERY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS TO
1:49:51PM YOU.
1:49:51PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
1:49:53PM THANK YOU.
1:49:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
1:49:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT YOU JUST SAID, THANKS TO THE OWNER

1:50:00PM THAT HAS WANTED TO MAKE THIS A HISTORIC LANDMARK.
1:50:04PM I KNOW THIS IS SOMETIMES A TOPIC, EVERYBODY WANTS TO
1:50:09PM DESIGNATE IT AS HISTORIC, THERE ARE A LOT OF RULES THAT GO
1:50:13PM BEHIND THAT, BUT WE KNOW HOW SIGNIFICANT THESE ARE TO OUR
1:50:17PM HISTORY.
1:50:18PM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:50:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
1:50:35PM DO WE TAKE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?
1:50:38PM >>ELAINE LUND: THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF --
1:50:44PM >> COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING TIME TO
1:50:50PM LISTEN TO THIS, OUR APPLICATION.
1:50:53PM JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.
1:50:55PM THE HURRICANE CAME THROUGH, OR WHAT HAPPENED WITH IT,
1:50:58PM FORTUNATELY FOR US, IT ALREADY CHANGED THE WINDOWS TO IMPACT
1:51:03PM RATED.
1:51:05PM OH, I'M SORRY.
1:51:06PM I'M MARGO DIAZ, IN THIS CASE WEST TAMPA DEVELOPMENT.
1:51:14PM SO WE ACTUALLY MADE IT PRETTY MUCH UNSCATHED AS I WILL SHOW
1:51:18PM YOU.
1:51:20PM YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE PHOTOS THAT WERE
1:51:23PM PREVIOUSLY SHOWN DIDN'T HAVE ANY WINDOWS WE PUT IN.
1:51:26PM WE WORKED WITH THE HISTORIC DEPARTMENT TO IDENTIFY THE EXACT
1:51:32PM TYPE OF WINDOWS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, THE CONFIGURATION,
1:51:36PM SO THEY LOOK THE SAME.
1:51:37PM THESE ARE ALL NEW IMPACT RATED WINDOWS.

1:51:40PM I WILL SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF THE INSIDE TO SHOW YOU A LITTLE
1:51:42PM BIT ABOUT HOW IT LOOKS INSIDE.
1:51:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU ZOOM IN?
1:51:48PM >> YES.
1:51:49PM SO YOU SEE WE REALLY KIND OF REALLY STARTED THE RESTORATION
1:51:53PM PROCESS.
1:51:53PM OUR PLAN IS TO EVENTUALLY LEAVE ALL THE EXPOSED BRICK WALLS,
1:51:59PM AS ONE OF THE ASPECTS OF IT.
1:52:02PM I GUESS WHAT HAPPENED WAS, MY DAD HAD AN ANTIQUE RESTORATION
1:52:07PM BUSINESS IN DREW PARK AND I GOT USED TO LIKE FIXING UP OLD
1:52:11PM STUFF AND NEVER GOT OVER IT.
1:52:13PM SO EVEN THOUGH WE DO OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, I DO LIKE ADAPTIVE
1:52:17PM REUSE OF THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS.
1:52:20PM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:52:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
1:52:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: SINCE STEPHANIE STOOD UP, I ALWAYS LIKE TO
1:52:37PM HEAR YOUR WISE COMMENTS IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT
1:52:40PM IT.
1:52:40PM >> STEPHANIE FERRELL, HISTORIC PRESERVATION ARCHITECT AND
1:52:45PM CONSULTANT TO GARCIA AND HIS PARTNER ON THIS PROJECT AND I
1:52:50PM AM PLEASED TO BE STANDING IN THE BACKGROUND MOSTLY IN
1:52:54PM SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT.
1:52:57PM I WANT TO MENTION THIS USE FOR THE BUILDING WILL BE
1:52:59PM RESIDENTIAL, SORTED OF LOFT STYLE APARTMENTS SO I THINK IT
1:53:04PM WILL BE A REAL BENEFIT TO THE BUILDING ITSELF AND TO THE

1:53:06PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO OUR OVERALL HOUSING SHORTAGE.
1:53:09PM SO THANK YOU.
1:53:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ
1:53:16PM THIS, PLEASE?
1:53:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE NUMBER 19, FILE HL
1:53:21PM 22-76263, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READ
1:53:25PM CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
1:53:28PM DESIGNATING BUSTILLO BROTHERS AND DIAZ CIGAR TOOK TRY
1:53:32PM LOCATED AT 2111 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE
1:53:37PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 HEREOF, AS A LOCAL
1:53:41PM HISTORIC LANDMARK, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
1:53:44PM CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
1:53:46PM DATE.
1:53:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:53:50PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
1:53:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
1:53:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
1:53:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
1:53:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
1:53:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
1:53:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
1:53:59PM >> YES.
1:54:00PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:54:01PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
1:54:03PM 3rd, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.

1:54:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:54:07PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20.
1:54:13PM >>ELAINE LUND: THIS APPLICATION IS FOR AN AD VALOREM
1:54:23PM HISTORIC TAX EXEMPTION FOR PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE HYDE PARK
1:54:26PM HISTORIC DISTRICT AT 818 SOUTH ORLEANS AVENUE, PRESENTLY
1:54:31PM OWNED BY KEVIN AND WHITNEY WOODS.
1:54:35PM THE PROPERTY AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE AERIAL MAP HERE SHOWN
1:54:39PM OUTLINED IN GREEN ON THE EAST SIDE OF ORLEANS AVENUE BETWEEN
1:54:43PM INMAN AND MORRISON AVENUE.
1:54:57PM THE PROPERTY IS SHOWN IN GREEN AS IT WAS AT THAT TIME.
1:55:03PM AND THIS IS THE HOUSE, CONSTRUCTED CIRCA 1917, AND IT'S
1:55:10PM LISTED AS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IN BOTH THE LOCAL AND
1:55:14PM NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
1:55:15PM THIS IS THE BEFORE PHOTO OF THE FRONT FACADE.
1:55:19PM YOU CAN LOOK AT THE AFTER PHOTO.
1:55:22PM YOU NOTICE THAT ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE WORK IN
1:55:25PM ADDITION TO THE REHABILITATION OF THE STRUCTURE WAS AN
1:55:28PM ADDITION OVER THE PORTE-COCHERE.
1:55:34PM PART OF THE REHABILITATION WORK WAS ON THE COLUMNS.
1:55:44PM YOU CAN SEE THE COLUMNS ON THE PORTE-COCHERE AND HOW THEY
1:55:48PM NOW MATCH THE ONES ON THE FRONT PORCH.
1:55:51PM THIS IS JUST A VIEW LOOKING MORE DIRECTLY AT THAT COMPONENT
1:55:54PM OF THE BUILDING.
1:55:58PM AND THE REAR SIDE OF IT.
1:55:59PM AND THE WINDOWS WERE ALSO REHABILITATED AND NEW WINDOWS ARE

1:56:04PM HISTORICALLY ACCURATE OR INSTALLED.
1:56:10PM THIS IS THE PICTURE OF THE BEFORE PICTURE OF THE BACK OF THE
1:56:13PM BUILDING.
1:56:17PM AND THE AFTER PICTURE OF THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE OF THIS
1:56:22PM VERY NICE SCREENED PORCH.
1:56:24PM ONE OF THE OLD TRICKS OF SCREENING IN PORCHES IN THE
1:56:28PM HISTORIC DISTRICT IS TO AVOID THE ALUMINUM METALS SCREENING
1:56:35PM THAT YOU SEE IN A LOT OF PROJECTS.
1:56:37PM THIS TURNS OUT VERY NICELY.
1:56:42PM ON THE INTERIOR, WE HAVE A PHOTO OF ONE OF THE NEWER POSTS
1:56:49PM IN THE STAIRWAY THAT WAS USED TO RECREATE SOME OF THE OTHER
1:56:52PM POSTS THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE INCLUDING THESE AT THE TOP OF THE
1:56:58PM STAIRS.
1:57:04PM THE HISTORIC TREND WAS RETAINED IN PLACE AND WAS RE-CREATED
1:57:08PM AND IN THE ADDITION.
1:57:11PM YOU CAN SEE HERE A PICTURE OF ONE OF THE NEW DOORS THAT WAS
1:57:14PM FABRICATED TO MATCH THE EXISTING DOORS IN THE HOUSE.
1:57:22PM AGAIN THE DOORS.
1:57:24PM AND THE POCKET DOORS WERE ALSO RESTORED.
1:57:31PM AS WAS THE FIREPLACE AND THE FLOORING.
1:57:34PM THIS IS A PICTURE OF BEFORE THE FIREPLACE AREA, AND AN AFTER
1:57:39PM PHOTO.
1:57:43PM FINALLY, THE OWNERS WERE GOOD ENOUGH TO EVEN MATCH SOME OF
1:57:49PM THE ORIGINAL HARDWARE AND RESTORE IT THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE.
1:57:56PM THIS IS BEFORE AND AFTER.

1:58:00PM SO THE APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SECRETARY OF THE
1:58:04PM INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION AND GUIDELINES FOR
1:58:08PM REHABILITATING HISTORIC BUILDINGS, WHICH ARE THE STANDARDS
1:58:11PM THAT WE USE FOR THE AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTIONS.
1:58:16PM IN REVIEWING THE PROJECT IT MEETS THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED
1:58:19PM BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE.
1:58:20PM THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT CAN BE ENACTED STATE WIDE.
1:58:26PM THE IMPROVEMENTS MUST EQUAL OR EXCEED $10,000.
1:58:29PM AND OUR RECOMMENDATION, STAFF, THE WORK IS CONSISTENT WITH
1:58:34PM THE CITY OF TAMPA AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION
1:58:37PM ORDINANCE AS SUBMITTED.
1:58:39PM AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
1:58:41PM THANK YOU.
1:58:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
1:58:45PM COUNCILMAN VIERA?
1:58:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
1:58:57PM CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A HISTORIC
1:58:59PM PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO
1:59:02PM THE RESTORATION, RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN
1:59:05PM PROPERTY OWNED BY KEVIN B. AND WHITNEY M. WOODS, 818 SOUTH
1:59:10PM ORLEANS AVENUE IN THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT BASED UPON
1:59:14PM CERTAIN FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY
1:59:17PM APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA PROVIDING FOR
1:59:19PM SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
1:59:22PM CONFLICT PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

1:59:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA,
1:59:28PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:59:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:59:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ROLL CALL.
1:59:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
1:59:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
1:59:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
1:59:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
1:59:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
1:59:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
1:59:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
1:59:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
1:59:48PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:59:49PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
1:59:52PM 3rd, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
1:59:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD YOU READ --
2:00:03PM >> THANK YOU.
2:00:04PM OKAY.
2:00:06PM ITEM NUMBER 21.
2:00:09PM HTX 22-77593.
2:00:16PM EXCUSE ME.
2:00:16PM >>ELAINE LUND: AS MY LAST PRESENTATION FOR THIS MORNING, OR
2:00:22PM THIS AFTERNOON NOW, THIS IS ANOTHER AD VALOREM HISTORIC TAX
2:00:26PM EXEMPTION APPLICATION, THIS TIME AT 4521 WEST DALE AVENUE.
2:00:30PM THIS IS NOT LOCATED IN ONE OF OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

2:00:33PM INSTEAD THIS IS IN THE BEACH PARK AREA.
2:00:39PM THE BEACH PARK HOUSES THAT ARE LISTED LOCALLY AS HISTORIC
2:00:45PM BUILDINGS ARE DONE SO THROUGH STRICTLY VOLUNTARY PROGRAM.
2:00:48PM THE OWNERS COME FORWARD AND REQUEST THE DESIGNATION.
2:00:54PM THEY ARE PART OF THE 1920s DEVELOPMENT, ORIGINAL
2:00:57PM DEVELOPMENT OF THE BEACH PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WAS
2:00:59PM PRIMARILY MEDITERRANEAN THEMED HOUSES.
2:01:03PM SO HERE YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF DALE AVENUE, OFF
2:01:06PM OF ROYAL PALM WAY.
2:01:11PM THIS IS THE 1920s SANBORN MAP OF THE AREA, SHOWING NORTH
2:01:18PM DALE.
2:01:19PM YOU CAN SEE THAT THE COLORS IS OF INTEREST BEING A YELLOW
2:01:29PM WOOD FRAME STRUCTURE, SHOWN IN RED WHICH INDICATES PROBABLY
2:01:34PM A CLAY TILE CONSTRUCTION.
2:01:41PM THIS IS THE BEFORE PICTURE, LOOKING AT THE FRONT OF THE
2:01:45PM BUILDING.
2:01:53PM THIS IS AN AFTER PICTURE.
2:01:55PM THE PROJECT INCLUDED FIXING THE MEDALLIONS ON THE FRONT OF
2:02:02PM THE BUILDING, WORKING ON THE TEXTURED EXTERIOR, REPAIRING
2:02:07PM THE WINDOWS AND REPLACING WINDOWS TO MORE HISTORICALLY
2:02:12PM APPROPRIATE WINDOWS.
2:02:12PM THERE WAS ALSO SOME WORK DONE ON THE DRIVEWAY AND
2:02:17PM PORTE-COCHERE.
2:02:19PM THIS IS THE BEFORE PICTURE.
2:02:21PM AND THE AFTER PHOTO.

2:02:30PM I BELIEVE THE WROUGHT IRON WORK WAS ALSO PART OF IT.
2:02:35PM THIS IS THE PHOTO OF THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY BEFORE THE
2:02:37PM PROJECT WAS INITIATED.
2:02:42PM AND THIS IS AFTER.
2:02:44PM THIS DOES INCLUDE AN ADDITION AND THE CONSTRUCTION AFTER NEW
2:02:47PM REAR PORCH.
2:02:52PM ON THE INTERIOR, WE ARE LOOKING THROUGH THE MUD ROOM TO
2:02:57PM WHERE THE ADDITION AREA IS HERE.
2:02:58PM YOU CAN SEE THAT THE FLOORING WAS REPLACED WITH SOMETHING
2:03:04PM THAT WAS MORE HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATE.
2:03:06PM DOWN THE VIEW DOWN THE CORRIDOR WHEREAS MAINTAINED.
2:03:09PM THE ARCH OPENING WAS MAINTAINED.
2:03:13PM THE TRIM AROUND THE WINDOWS AND DOORS WAS RESTORED TO ITS
2:03:18PM ORIGINAL.
2:03:19PM THE FLOORING, I BELIEVE, IS ALSO PART OF THE RENOVATION
2:03:22PM PROGRAM.
2:03:24PM THE SUN ROOM, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ON THE FRONT FACADE, MADE A
2:03:34PM SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE STREET, THE APPEARANCE OF THE
2:03:38PM BUILDING.
2:03:39PM THE FLOORING WAS REFINISHED AND THE TRIM ON THE INTERIOR
2:03:42PM WINDOWS WAS CHANGED, AS WELL AS OF COURSE THE WINDOWS
2:03:47PM THEMSELVES TO BE REPLACED TO BE HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATE.
2:03:50PM AND THE LIVING ROOM, THE FLOORING WAS RESTORED AS WELL, AS
2:03:54PM WAS THE SUN ROOM AND THE FIREPLACE.
2:04:01PM AGAIN, JUST MORE PICTURES OF THE INTERIOR.

2:04:06PM FLOORING ON THE STAIRS.
2:04:07PM AND THEN FINALLY JUST A LOVELY SHOT OF THE HOUSE FROM AROUND
2:04:13PM ITS TIME OF CONSTRUCTION IN 1925.
2:04:15PM AND WITH THAT I WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS.
2:04:19PM >> COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:04:22PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:04:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST
2:04:29PM READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC
2:04:31PM PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO
2:04:34PM THE RESTORATION, RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN
2:04:37PM PROPERTY OWNED BY RICARDO REAMERS AND SHAIDA JOHNSON LOCATED
2:04:45PM AT 4521 WEST DALE AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA IN THE BEACH PARK
2:04:51PM MULTIPLE PROPERTIES DESIGNATION LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT
2:04:54PM BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO PROPERTY
2:04:58PM APPRAISER HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY
2:05:02PM PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
2:05:04PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:05:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:05:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:05:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:05:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:05:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:05:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:05:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:05:15PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

2:05:16PM SECOND READING WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 3rd, 2022 AT
2:05:23PM 9:30 A.M.
2:05:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: ONE THAT WE GOT PASSED I WILL DEAL WITH THAT
2:05:28PM LATER.
2:05:29PM I MOVE ITEMS 22 THROUGH 25.
2:05:32PM >> SECOND.
2:05:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:05:35PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:05:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:05:39PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU HAVE PARKS AND RECREATION.
2:05:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE ITEMS 26 THROUGH 35.
2:05:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
2:05:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:05:48PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:05:49PM THANK YOU.
2:05:50PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:05:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 36 THROUGH 46.
2:05:58PM >> SECOND.
2:05:59PM >> MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECONDED BY
2:06:01PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:06:02PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:06:04PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU HAVE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
2:06:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 47 THROUGH 50, AND 52 TO 54.
2:06:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:06:17PM ALL IN FAVOR?

2:06:20PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUILDING AND ZONING.
2:06:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM NUMBER 66 BECAUSE MY
2:06:27PM FIRM WORKS WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
2:06:30PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 55 THROUGH -- MY BRAIN IS SLOW OR
2:06:42PM NOT WORKING.
2:06:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 55 THROUGH 65 AND 67 THROUGH --
2:06:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: 67 THROUGH 79.
2:06:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:07:00PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:07:01PM THANK YOU.
2:07:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, VICE CHAIR OF BUILDING
2:07:15PM AND ZONING.
2:07:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE 66.
2:07:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED.
2:07:23PM THANK YOU.
2:07:24PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, TRANSPORTATION.
2:07:26PM I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU HAVE TRANSPORTATION.
2:07:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:07:30PM I MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION FOR 80 AND 81.
2:07:37PM I MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR 82.
2:07:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:07:42PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:07:44PM THANK YOU.
2:07:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARINGS
2:07:47PM FOR 83, 4, 5 AND 6.

2:07:50PM >> SECOND.
2:07:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED
2:07:57PM BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:07:58PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:08:00PM THANK YOU.
2:08:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO OPEN ALL THE
2:08:03PM PUBLIC HEARINGS.
2:08:04PM >> SECOND.
2:08:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT EXCELLENT.
2:08:06PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:08:07PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:08:08PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:08:14PM THANK YOU.
2:08:15PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:08:16PM THANK YOU.
2:08:16PM I GUESS WE GO TO 87.
2:08:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I REALLY FAST, THERE'S SOMETHING I
2:08:20PM FORGOT.
2:08:22PM ON NUMBER 11, I KNOW I NEEDED A STAFF REPORT.
2:08:25PM IF I MAY, SIR, IT SAYS HERE THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT, AND
2:08:28PM FOR BACKGROUND THIS IS ON THE HONORARY STREET NAMING OF
2:08:37PM CLIFFORD MACDONALD, THE MACDONALD TRAINING CENTER, SAYS THE
2:08:40PM REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT HAS SUBMITTED SUMMARY REPORTS IN
2:08:42PM THEIR CONSIDERATION.
2:08:44PM I HAVE THIS COME BACK IN THE FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY 2023 JUST

2:08:49PM FOR A STATUS.
2:08:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURE.
2:08:53PM DO YOU WANT A TIME CERTAIN?
2:08:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
2:08:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY THAT BE A WRITTEN REPORT THEN?
2:09:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:09:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
2:09:15PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:09:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
2:09:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:09:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF IT'S NOT -- TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT
2:09:26PM CASE, BUT I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO, NO, IT IS IN THIS
2:09:31PM PARTICULAR CASE, WHAT WE NEED TO DO, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD
2:09:33PM BE THAT COUNCILMEMBER VIERA PROPOSE A RESOLUTION OR
2:09:40PM ORDINANCE RATHER THAN.
2:09:43PM THE LINE THAT YOU JUST READ OFF IS THE SAME ONE THAT I
2:09:46PM HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS MEMO THAT WAS I THINK POSTED TO SIRE
2:09:49PM LATE LAST NIGHT.
2:09:50PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE HIGHLIGHTED LINE IT SAYS THE REAL ESTATE
2:09:52PM DEPARTMENT HAS SUBMITTED THE SUMMARY REPORT TO THE MAYOR FOR
2:09:55PM CONSIDERATION.
2:09:56PM YOU ALL REMEMBER, I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR, THERE WAS AN
2:09:59PM EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT OUTLINED THE NEW PROCESS BASED ON THE
2:10:02PM COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION OF HOW FACILITIES WOULD BE NAMED,
2:10:07PM IN THAT DOCUMENT, I POINTED OUT THE TIME IN THE WHEREAS

2:10:11PM CLAUSES THAT STATED THAT THE MAYOR HAS THE RIGHT TO NAME
2:10:15PM BUILDINGS.
2:10:16PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHARTER, WHICH IS THE SECOND PAGE I HAVE,
2:10:19PM THE ONLY THING CLOSE TO SAYING THAT IS NUMBER 5, WHICH IS
2:10:22PM THE GENERAL CHARGE CONTROL AND SUPERVISION OF PROPERTY
2:10:25PM WITHIN THE CITY.
2:10:26PM THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CHARTER THAT GIVES THE MONEY
2:10:28PM EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO NAME BUILDINGS.
2:10:30PM AND SO IF WE SIMPLY ASK FOR THE MAYOR BY EXECUTIVE ORDER
2:10:35PM NAME SOMETHING, WE ARE GIVING AWAY ONE OF THE POWERS OF CITY
2:10:38PM COUNCIL.
2:10:39PM IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY DEFINED IN THE CHARTER FOR EITHER ONE
2:10:43PM OF US.
2:10:43PM BUT MY SUGGESTION IS THAT IN THE ABSENCE OF CREATING A
2:10:47PM LONGER PROCESS LATER THAT WE PROPOSE THAT AN ORDINANCE COME
2:10:51PM BACK THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE, AND THEN THE MAYOR CAN ALSO PASS
2:10:53PM AN EXECUTIVE ORDER IF SHE WANTS.
2:10:55PM BUT SIMPLY ASKING THE MAYOR TO CONSIDER IT IS GIVING UP ONE
2:11:00PM OF THE POWERS THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS.
2:11:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND MAY I?
2:11:08PM I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A LOT.
2:11:10PM VERY WELL TAKEN.
2:11:11PM WHAT I CAN DO IS I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND RETURN -- WE
2:11:15PM HAVE COUNCIL NEXT WEEK.
2:11:16PM WE HAVE A HOLIDAY IN THE EVENING.

2:11:19PM I CAN LOOK AT THIS, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, AND COME BACK WITH
2:11:22PM IT NEXT THURSDAY EVENING AND WHATNOT.
2:11:26PM I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
2:11:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM SORRY TO BRING THIS UP, SPECIFICALLY
2:11:30PM ABOUT YOURS, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
2:11:32PM THIS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT'S COME UP I THINK SINCE THAT
2:11:34PM MEMO, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T
2:11:36PM INADVERTENTLY GIVE UP ONE OF OUR POWERS F.WE HAD SUGGESTED
2:11:41PM TAKING THIS AUTHORITY AWAY FROM THE MAYOR LEGAL DEPARTMENT
2:11:43PM WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL OVER TO US STOP US BUT IN THIS CASE THE
2:11:47PM WHEREAS CLAUSES THERE IT'S TRYING TO CLAIM GROUND WHICH
2:11:49PM DOESN'T EXIST IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHARTER.
2:11:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, YES, SO I WILL COME BACK WITH
2:11:55PM THAT.
2:11:55PM I AM NOT GOING TO BE HERE THIS EVENING BECAUSE OF SCHOOL FOR
2:11:58PM MY SON BUT NEXT THURSDAY I CAN RETURN WITH THIS AND LOOK AT
2:12:01PM IT.
2:12:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM NOT GOING TO SPLIT HAIRS, BUT SINCE
2:12:07PM THERE IS NO GENERAL DIRECTION ON WHO HAS CONTROL OF WHAT, NO
2:12:10PM BUN IS TAKING CONTROL AWAY FROM ANYBODY.
2:12:14PM YOU ARE JUST ASKING TO DEFINE IT.
2:12:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF IT BECAUSE IT
2:12:18PM WOULD TAKE A WHILE TO LOOK IT UP BUT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER
2:12:20PM THAT CAME OUT ABOUT THE PROCESS FOR NAMING, WHICH I THINK
2:12:23PM THE PROCESS IS GOOD, WAS RECOMMENDED BY COMMITTEE, BUT THE

2:12:26PM WHEREAS CLAUSES IN IT FRONT SAY BECAUSE, AND IT CITES THIS
2:12:29PM NUMBER 5 HERE, BECAUSE THE MAYOR HAS CONTROL OF THE
2:12:31PM FACILITIES AND WHEREAS THE MAYOR ALSO HAS AUTHORITY OVER
2:12:34PM NAMING RIGHTS, WHICH THAT IS NOT, I POINTED OUT AT THE TIME,
2:12:37PM THAT IS NOT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT, AND AS FAR AS I KNOW WE
2:12:41PM DID NOT COLD IF I THAT BY VOTING ON THAT STAFF ORDER.
2:12:44PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING IN WHAT
2:12:47PM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA PROPOSED TODAY THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY ANY
2:12:50PM POWERS.
2:12:51PM MY POINT IS BECAUSE OF THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER UNLESS WE PUT UP
2:12:54PM EITHER AN ORDINANCE OR A RESOLUTION, THEN THIS DECISION ON
2:12:59PM THIS NAME WOULD ONLY BE MADE BY EXECUTIVE ORDER, AND WE
2:13:02PM WOULD BE GIVING UP WHAT OTHERWISE IS AN UNDEFINED POWER
2:13:06PM WHICH THEN WOULD DEFAULT TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL
2:13:08PM AGREEING ON SOMETHING.
2:13:09PM SO LET'S LOOK AT IT FROM --
2:13:15PM >> YOU WANT TO THE DEFINE THE POWER.
2:13:18PM YES.
2:13:19PM MR. MASSEY.
2:13:19PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: A COUPLE THINGS.
2:13:24PM THE TERM THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON CITED, WE HAVE INTERPRETED
2:13:27PM AS INCLUDING THE RIGHT TO NAME, THE MANAGEMENT CONTROL FOR
2:13:31PM THOSE NAMING.
2:13:32PM >>COLIN RICE:
2:13:33PM MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CLARIFIED WHEN WE GO

2:13:35PM THROUGH THE CHARTER WORKSHOP.
2:13:37PM THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE DISCUSS.
2:13:38PM BUT THE LEGAL INTERPRETATION OF THAT CHARTER, THAT'S WHY IT
2:13:41PM WAS DONE BY EXECUTIVE ORDER.
2:13:43PM WE CAN ALSO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT NAMING RIGHTS IN
2:13:46PM GENERAL PERHAPS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION HERE AND HOW WE CAN
2:13:49PM WORK COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER.
2:13:51PM I AM NOTE SAYING THAT WE CAN DO THAT.
2:13:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIRMAN.
2:13:56PM I HAVE I HAD A COUPLE OF ATTORNEYS LOOK AT THIS, TOO, AND
2:13:59PM THINGS IN THE PAST WERE INTERPRETED IN DIFFERENT WAYS, AND
2:14:06PM LOOKED AT THE INTERPRETATION THAT THE LEGAL OFFICE HAS THE
2:14:11PM EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO AGREE TO, NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENTS AND TO
2:14:15PM PAY THEM.
2:14:16PM THAT'S NOT AT ALL IN THE CHARTER EITHER AND I HAD ATTORNEYS
2:14:19PM OUTSIDE LOOK AT THAT.
2:14:20PM WHAT I WOULD HOPE IS WITH THE NEW CITY ATTORNEY, WHO READ
2:14:25PM OFF THE CHARTER AND SAID CITY COUNCIL IS ALSO ONE OF HER
2:14:27PM CLIENTS, I HOPE THE NEW LEGAL DEPARTMENT DIRECTION WOULD TO
2:14:30PM BE LOOK AT ALL THE CLIENTS AND TREAT ALL THE CLIENTS FAIRLY
2:14:35PM AND INTERPRET THESE THINGS.
2:14:38PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: FOR THE RECORD, MORRIS MASSEY, CITY
2:14:40PM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
2:14:41PM IT IS OUR JOB TO REPRESENT THE CITY AS A WHOLE AND NOT JUST
2:14:44PM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, NOT JUST CITY COUNCIL, NOT JUST THE

2:14:47PM STAFF.
2:14:48PM AND SO WE DO TRY TO TAKE EVERYONE'S -- WE DO TRY TO
2:14:52PM INTERPRET THINGS NOT FAVORING ONE DEPARTMENT OR ONE BRANCH
2:14:57PM OF GOVERNMENT OVER THE OTHER.
2:14:59PM WE DO REPRESENT THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
2:15:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: WITH RESPECT TO REAL ESTATE, AND I WON'T
2:15:05PM BELABOR THAT, IF THE MAYOR DOES TRY TO SELL PROPERTY THAT
2:15:10PM WOULD COME BEFORE COUNCIL SO THE MANAGEMENT OF PROPERTY IS
2:15:12PM DIFFERENT THAN THE OVERALL CONTROL OF IT.
2:15:15PM SO I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT IN THE CHARTER
2:15:19PM DISCUSSION, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK WE OUGHT TO PUT UP
2:15:22PM AN ORDINANCE AND MAYOR THE MAYOR --
2:15:25PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: INTERPRETATION IS STILL THE CHARTER, THAT
2:15:28PM FALLS TO THE MAYOR'S AUTHORITY AT THIS JUNCTURE, JUST
2:15:33PM TELLING YOU THAT'S THE POSITION OF OUR OFFICE.
2:15:35PM BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS FURTHER AND WE CAN CLARIFY IT.
2:15:39PM AND AS FAR AS THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS CONCERNED, I DON'T
2:15:41PM THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE.
2:15:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST FOR 30 MORE SECONDS, IF
2:15:46PM I CAN HAND ONE OTHER DOCUMENT.
2:15:49PM THIS IS THE LOCATION IN THE CHATTER -- CHARTER THAT'S 5.01,
2:15:54PM AND IT DEFINES, A, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, AND YOU ALL CAN
2:15:57PM LOOK UP ABOVE, THE AREA ABOUT WHO THE CLIENT OF THE LEGAL
2:16:00PM DEPARTMENT IS, BUT I HIGHLIGHTED THIS POINT WHICH IS THE
2:16:04PM CITY ATTORNEY SHALL BE THE FINAL OFFICIAL LEGAL

2:16:06PM REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CITY, BUT PLEASE TAKE NOTE THAT --
2:16:10PM AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN CHARTER REVIEW -- THE LEGAL
2:16:13PM DEPARTMENT IS UNDER DEPARTMENTS, NOT A BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT,
2:16:18PM NOT JUDICIAL BARGE OF GOVERNMENT.
2:16:20PM THERE ARE ONLY TWO BRANCHES OF THIS GOVERNMENT, THE MAYOR
2:16:22PM AND CITY COUNCIL.
2:16:23PM AND WHEN WE GET OPINIONS THAT LOOK LIKE THE RULING OF A
2:16:31PM JUDGE, ESPECIALLY FROM OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS, IT DOESN'T
2:16:36PM ACCURATELY REPRESENT OR REFLECT WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS.
2:16:39PM I WOULD SAY JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS AN OPINION BY ONE SET OF
2:16:42PM ATTORNEYS, YOU HIRED, YOU HIRE ONE SET OF ATTORNEYS, THE
2:16:47PM NEXT DAY YOU GET A DIFFERENT OPINION.
2:16:48PM NOW THERE'S A NEW CITY ATTORNEY WHO I THINK WILL LOOK AT
2:16:51PM THIS IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIGURE THIS
2:16:54PM OUT.
2:16:54PM OTHERWISE WITH THE ABSENCE OF ANY SPECIFIC DEFINITION, YES,
2:16:57PM WE SHOULD LOOK AT PUTTING IT IN THE CHARTER.
2:17:00PM THANK YOU.
2:17:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HAVING A NEW ATTORNEY OR OLD ATTORNEY OR
2:17:04PM WHAT ATTORNEY HASN'T BEEN BORN OR AN ATTORNEY THAT'S DIED
2:17:07PM AND GIVING AN OPINION, IT STILL REPRESENTS BOTH SIDES OF THE
2:17:10PM GOVERNMENT.
2:17:10PM AND YOU CAN TAKE THE OPINION OR NOT TAKE IT AND IF I DON'T
2:17:15PM LIKE IT, FILE A LAWSUIT.
2:17:16PM THAT'S ALL.

2:17:17PM I'M JUST TALKING TO MYSELF.
2:17:18PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
2:17:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 87, FILE CDD 22-77670.
2:17:31PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
2:17:47PM 87.
2:17:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE WE ALL TOGETHER ON THIS?
2:17:51PM EVERYBODY GOOD?
2:17:52PM COUNSEL SHELBY, ARE YOU GOOD ON THIS?
2:17:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
2:17:55PM THANK YOU.
2:17:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE, PROCEED.
2:17:56PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
2:17:58PM I DID FILE A MEMO REQUESTING THAT THIS ITEM, THIS PUBLIC
2:18:02PM HEARING BE CONTINUED TO OCTOBER 20th, AND IF COUNCIL
2:18:05PM WOULD LIKE TO, WE PUT 9 A.M. SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT WAS THE
2:18:09PM TIME THAT WAS NOTED ON THE PUBLISHED NOTICE OF THE
2:18:12PM PETITIONER PROVIDED, BUT COUNCIL, IF YOU WOULD JUST SPECIFY
2:18:16PM THE TIME.
2:18:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY
2:18:22PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:18:23PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
2:18:24PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:18:24PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I'M SORRY, IF YOU COULD SPECIFY
2:18:28PM OCTOBER 20th AND THE SPECIFIC TIME.
2:18:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 9 A.M. OCTOBER 20th.

2:18:33PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: IF YOU COULD OPEN AND CONTINUE THIS
2:18:35PM HEARING UNTIL THAT DATE.
2:18:36PM >> IT IS OPEN.
2:18:37PM >> NUMBER 87.
2:18:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE JUST CONTINUE IT.
2:18:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED TO HAVE THIS CONTINUED UNTIL
2:18:49PM OCTOBER 20, 2022 AT 9 A.M., ITEM NUMBER 87.
2:18:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
2:18:57PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:18:58PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:18:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:19:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:19:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:19:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:19:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:19:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:19:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:19:06PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:19:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:19:08PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 88.
2:19:10PM FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 24.
2:19:19PM >>MCLANE EVANS: ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, ITEM 88 IS THE
2:19:23PM HISTORIC DOWNTOWN YBOR, TAMPA TOURISM MARKETING DISTRICT,
2:19:24PM NON AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL.
2:19:28PM IF I CAN REMIND YOU TO PLEASE VOTE WHILE THE HEARING IS

2:19:31PM STILL OPEN.
2:19:32PM WE ALSO HAVE TOM CLOUD FROM GRAY ROBINSON WHO REPRESENTS
2:19:40PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HOTEL MOTEL ASSOCIATION IF YOU HAVE ANY
2:19:43PM QUESTIONS.
2:19:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS?
2:19:57PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO BE SPEAK TO THIS,
2:20:00PM E-2022-8 CHAPTER 24?
2:20:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
2:20:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OH, IT HAS TO BE OPENED.
2:20:07PM EXCUSE ME.
2:20:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:20:10PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:20:12PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:20:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:20:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:20:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:20:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:20:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:20:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:20:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:20:22PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:20:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:20:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
2:20:32PM >> SECOND.
2:20:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED

2:20:35PM BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:20:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:20:37PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:20:39PM THANK YOU.
2:20:42PM YES, MA'AM.
2:20:44PM I HAVE BEEN ASKED THAT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 104 --
2:20:52PM >>> MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 104 TO 1:30 P.M. OCTOBER 20th.
2:20:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:21:01PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:21:02PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:21:03PM THANK YOU.
2:21:08PM AGENDA ITEM 89.
2:21:10PM FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 21.
2:21:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS ABSENT FOR SEVERAL OF THESE AND I
2:21:22PM REVIEWED THE FILES.
2:21:23PM JUST WANT TO SAY THAT.
2:21:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:21:25PM >> McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
2:21:32PM NUMBER 89 SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER
2:21:36PM 21, ARTICLE 3, AND ARTICLE 4 RELATING TO CONFLICTING
2:21:43PM REFERENCES TO THE STORMWATER TECHNICAL STANDARDS MANUAL.
2:21:48PM DURING THE FIRST READING OF THIS ITEM, COUNCILMAN HAD A
2:21:55PM REQUEST ABOUT THE ACT TO TRACK IMPERVIOUS AREA, SO EDIE IS
2:22:03PM ON THE LINE IF YOU STILL HAVE THAT QUESTION AND WOULD LIKE
2:22:05PM TO HAVE IT ANSWERED.

2:22:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TELL ME THAT AGAIN NOW?
2:22:10PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: YOU HAD A QUESTION
2:22:13PM >> EVANS: EVEN THOUGH THEY COMPLETED PERMANENT REQUIREMENTS
2:22:18PM AND GOTTEN THEIR --
2:22:20PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
2:22:21PM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU FOR BEING ON.
2:22:24PM SOMETIMES WHEN YOU APPLY FOR A PERMIT, IT GOES TO A CERTAIN
2:22:28PM AREA.
2:22:29PM I SEE PAVERS OR CONCRETE AND YOU DO IT UP TO THE PROPERTY
2:22:32PM LINE.
2:22:33PM THAT INCLUDED RIGHT-OF-WAY.
2:22:35PM NOW, SOMEBODY ELSE GETS THE PAPERS AND HE OR SHE OR THEY PUT
2:22:43PM IT ALL THE WAY TO THE STREET, AND IF THEY GET A PERMIT DO WE
2:22:50PM KNOW THAT THE PARTIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN IT UNDERSTAND,
2:22:54PM ONE WAS ALREADY DONE, AND IF YOU DON'T GET A PERMIT -- AND
2:22:57PM THE REASON I SAY THAT, THERE'S AN ADDRESS AT 4000 BLOCK OF
2:23:02PM GRAY THAT I REMEMBER YEARS BACK, HAD PAVERS ALL THE WAY TO
2:23:05PM THE STREET, AND THEY WANTED TO PUT A SIDEWALK.
2:23:08PM SHE HAD TO TAKE OUT ALL HER PAVERS TO DO THAT.
2:23:10PM NOW SHE CALLED THE OTHER DAY, THERE'S TWO HOUSES ACROSS THE
2:23:14PM STREET THAT GOT PAVERS ALL THE WAY TO THE STREET.
2:23:16PM HOW COME THEY CAN DO IT THE WAY SHE WANTED IT DONE AND SHE
2:23:19PM CAN'T DO IT?
2:23:20PM AND IF WE ARE PUTTING SIDEWALKS EVERYWHERE, THEN I GOT A
2:23:23PM PROBLEM.

2:23:24PM I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, THE SYSTEM HAS A PROBLEM, IN AS MUCH
2:23:27PM AS HOW DO YOU CONTAIN IT?
2:23:29PM HOW DO YOU DO IT?
2:23:30PM AND WHAT WE FOUND, LET'S SAY THIS COUNCIL PASSES SOMETHING
2:23:33PM AND APPROVES IT AND IT'S FILED AWAY.
2:23:35PM WHEN YOU COME BACK AND YOU SELL THAT PROPERTY AND IF IT'S
2:23:39PM GOT SWALES ON THE SIDE, I DON'T BELIEVE THE SWALES ARE PART
2:23:43PM OF THE RECORD, JUSTIFIABLE SENT OVER TO THE CLERK'S
2:23:48PM OFFICIAL, A DIVISION OF THE COUNTY WHERE YOU CAN'T FILL THEM
2:23:52PM IN BECAUSE HERE AGAIN I BUY FROM SOMEBODY ELSE, THE SWALES
2:23:56PM ARE THERE, I COME ALONG, EITHER MYSELF OR MY WIFE OR MY
2:24:00PM GIRLFRIEND OR WHATEVER, WE WANT TO ENCLOSE THAT, PUT PLANTS
2:24:03PM UP, THEY DON'T KNOW.
2:24:06PM THERE'S A SWALE THERE.
2:24:07PM WE ARE GOING TO FILL IT UP.
2:24:09PM AND WE START GETTING COMPLICATION FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
2:24:16PM HOW DO WE SOLVE THAT PROBLEM WHERE AT THE TIME YOU CAN
2:24:18PM NOTIFY ANOTHER PARTY THAT IF THEY EVER SELL THE HOUSE THEY
2:24:20PM CAN AT LEAST BE NOTIFIED, BUT WE CAN'T NOTIFY THEM?
2:24:29PM >>VIK BHIDE: MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
2:24:32PM THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
2:24:34PM WE HAD TOUCHED UPON THAT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE ALLEY
2:24:37PM DISCUSSION AS WELL, AND SO IN CERTAIN CONDITIONS, OUR
2:24:44PM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES TEAM DOES REQUIRE MITIGATION FOR
2:24:49PM STORMWATER ON-SITE, SWALE, OR SOME OTHER MECHANISM.

2:24:55PM AND THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE KEEP TRACK THAT THOSE ARE
2:25:00PM STILL FUNCTIONING THE WAY THEY ARE INTENDED WHEN THE CO WAS
2:25:06PM ISSUED AND HOW DO WE TRACK IT WHEN PROPERTY CHANGES HANDS?
2:25:11PM AND THE HONEST ANSWER IS, NOT VERY WELL IN THAT WE TYPICALLY
2:25:17PM ADDRESS THESE KINDS OF ISSUES WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT COMPLAINTS
2:25:21PM FROM NEIGHBORS, WHERE WATER FROM SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY,
2:25:26PM AND SWALES OR POND WERE NOT VERY WELL MAINTAINED.
2:25:33PM SO IT'S PRIMARILY IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF INFECTION
2:25:38PM PROGRAM WE WOULD NEED SIGNIFICANTLY MORE RESOURCES, AS A
2:25:43PM CITY, NOT ANY ONE DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT'S I BELIEVE A COUPLE
2:25:50PM OF DECADES BACK, THERE WERE POLICIES THAT WERE CHANGED WHERE
2:25:55PM THE ONUS WAS A LITTLE MORE ON THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAKE
2:25:59PM SURE THAT CERTAIN MEASURES WERE TAKING PLACE.
2:26:04PM SO IN LOOKING AT THESE POLICIES, IT IS PRIMARILY COMPLAINT
2:26:08PM DRIVEN, BUT CHALLENGES IS A CONCERN.
2:26:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I AM NOT TRYING TO DO IS NOT MANGE
2:26:18PM IT COMPLAINT DRIVEN BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FOLLOW THE SAME
2:26:20PM PROCESS ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND CERTAIN THINGS HAPPEN WHERE
2:26:23PM YOU BUY A HOUSE AND IT'S GOT 14 ADDITIONS TO IT AND ALL OF A
2:26:26PM SUDDEN FIVE YEARS LATER SOMEBODY ELSE BUYS IT AND WE GO
2:26:30PM AFTER THE GUY WHO BOUGHT IT, NOT GUY WHO DID IT.
2:26:32PM SO IT GETS COMPLICATED.
2:26:37PM A GUY, IT COULD BE ANYONE, A WOMAN.
2:26:40PM I DON'T WANT TO MAKE GENDER INVOLVED THERE.
2:26:43PM SO I HOPE WE CAN WORK TOWARDS SOMETHING AND GET SOME TYPE OF

2:26:46PM AGREEMENT WHERE WE CAN FIND THESE THINGS.
2:26:48PM AND WORK WITH THE STAFF OR WHATEVER SO WE CAN COME TO SOME
2:26:54PM AGREEMENT WHERE THESE THINGS ARE CODIFIED SO WE CAN CATCH
2:26:57PM THEM RIGHT AWAY.
2:26:58PM THAT'S ALL I NEED.
2:26:59PM >>VIK BHIDE: AND I AGREE THAT IT SHOULD BE A POLICY OR
2:27:05PM CHANGE THAT WILL MAKE IT EASIER TO MAINTAIN THESE SORT OF
2:27:10PM FACILITIES.
2:27:11PM AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, OCTOBER 20th, THERE WILL BE
2:27:15PM AN ITEM WHERE WE INITIATE THE WATERSHED MANAGEMENT OF THE
2:27:21PM STUDY.
2:27:21PM THIS IS JUST THE FIRST OF MANY STEPS.
2:27:23PM ONE OF THE STEPS AS PART OF THAT INITIATIVE, AGAIN, GOING TO
2:27:29PM BE LOOKING AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALSO CITY RELATIVE
2:27:34PM TO STORMWATER TREATMENTS ON PROPERTIES.
2:27:36PM THAT WILL BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO ADDRESS THIS.
2:27:39PM BUT IT IS A CHALLENGE THAT WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS SOONER
2:27:43PM RATHER THAN LATER.
2:27:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
2:27:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:27:52PM WOULD ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA
2:27:54PM ITEM NUMBER 89, FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 21?
2:28:00PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:28:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:28:06PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

2:28:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:28:10PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:28:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
2:28:12PM FILE NUMBER 89.
2:28:14PM FILE E 2022-8-21, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
2:28:21PM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
2:28:23PM AMENDING CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 21 ARTICLE
2:28:26PM 3 CERTIFICATES 21-116 AND ARTICLE 4 SECTION 21-116.1
2:28:32PM ELIMINATING CONFLICTING STORMWATER TECHNICAL STANDARDS
2:28:35PM MANUAL EDITION REFERENCES CORRECTING DEPARTMENT NAME,
2:28:38PM REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
2:28:41PM THEREWITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
2:28:44PM DATE.
2:28:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:28:47PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:28:52PM OH, WE CAN VOTE BY -- PLACE YOUR VOTE AND RECORD.
2:29:12PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK ABSENT
2:29:15PM AT VOTE --
2:29:18PM >> WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO ROLL CALL.
2:29:22PM THIS IS STILL AGENDA NUMBER 89.
2:29:24PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:29:25PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:29:27PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:29:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:29:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

2:29:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:29:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:29:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:29:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:29:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:29:37PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:29:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:29:40PM AGENDA ITEM 90.
2:29:41PM FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
2:29:44PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:29:53PM COUNCIL, ITEM 90 IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT.
2:29:57PM THE APPLICANT IS RICKY PETERIKA.
2:29:59PM THIS IS PART OF THE JANUARY 2022 AMENDMENT CYCLE.
2:30:03PM THIS ITEM WAS BEFORE YOU FOR FIRST READING LAST MONTH IN
2:30:07PM SEPTEMBER 15th AND IT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND
2:30:10PM READING.
2:30:11PM AND ADOPTION.
2:30:12PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
2:30:13PM AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE ALSO IF NEEDED.
2:30:16PM >> RICKY PETERIKA, DARK MOSS, CENTRAL AVENUE.
2:30:26PM KNIFE PRESENTATION AND LOOK FORWARD TO IMPROVE MY PARKING IN
2:30:31PM THE NEAR FUTURE.
2:30:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES
2:30:35PM TORE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
2:30:38PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?

2:30:42PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:30:44PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:30:45PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:30:47PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CAN YOU READ THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE?
2:30:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 90, E 2022-8-CHAPTER 2, SECOND
2:30:56PM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
2:30:59PM FLORIDA RELATING TO LANDSCAPING AND GRAND TREES MAKING
2:31:02PM REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27
2:31:05PM ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING SECTION 27-43,
2:31:09PM DEFINITIONS, AMENDING SECTION 27-211-13, LAND MEASUREMENT
2:31:17PM METHODS, AMENDING SECTION 27-284.3.1, LANDSCAPING AND TREE
2:31:23PM PLANTING STANDARDS, TREE PRESERVATION, RETENTION, STANDARD,
2:31:27PM AMENDING SECTION 27-284.3.3, LANDSCAPING AREA AND TREE
2:31:33PM PLANTING REQUIREMENTS AND CREATING SECTIONS 27-283.16,
2:31:39PM BICYCLE PARKING, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
2:31:42PM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR
2:31:45PM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:31:48PM IS THE.
2:31:48PM >> SECOND.
2:31:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:31:52PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:31:55PM I'M SORRY?
2:31:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS SARASOTA SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE THAT
2:31:58PM I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
2:31:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

2:32:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:32:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:32:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:32:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:32:08PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES HIT.
2:32:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:32:10PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
2:32:12PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:32:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:32:16PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 91.
2:32:17PM FILE NUMBER E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
2:32:23PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:32:29PM COUNCIL, NUMBER '1 IS ANOTHER PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT
2:32:32PM AMENDMENT.
2:32:33PM THE APPLICANT IS ANGELA ROBER.
2:32:36PM SHE IS PART OF THE JANUARY 2022 AMENDMENT CYCLE ALSO.
2:32:40PM THIS REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE CBD, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT
2:32:44PM SIGNAGE CODE, AND IT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING
2:32:48PM AND ADOPTION.
2:32:49PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
2:32:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:32:52PM ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
2:32:53PM APPLICANT?
2:33:01PM APPLICANT IS NOT HERE ST. APPLICANT ONLINE?
2:33:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.

2:33:07PM >> SECOND.
2:33:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO
2:33:09PM WISHES -- THANK YOU.
2:33:15PM >> HELLO?
2:33:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE CANNOT SEE YOU.
2:33:30PM YES, THERE YOU ARE.
2:33:30PM >> I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS BUT HAVE NO FURTHER
2:33:37PM PRESENTATION AT THIS TIME.
2:33:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:33:40PM IS ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS?
2:33:45PM SEEING NONE.
2:33:53PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:33:55PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:33:57PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:33:58PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:33:59PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:34:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE FILE NUMBER 91, FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER
2:34:09PM 27.
2:34:09PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
2:34:11PM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO
2:34:13PM BUILDING SIGNS MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
2:34:16PM ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27 ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING
2:34:20PM SECTION 27-183, GENERAL DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT STANDARD,
2:34:24PM REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
2:34:26PM THEREWITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

2:34:28PM DATE.
2:34:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
2:34:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:34:33PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:34:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:34:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:34:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:34:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:34:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:34:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:34:40PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
2:34:42PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:34:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:34:45PM AGENDA ITEM 92.
2:34:47PM FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
2:34:50PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:34:56PM THIS IS THE LAST PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT FOR
2:34:59PM TODAY.
2:35:00PM ITEM NUMBER 92, THE APPLICANT IS BEING REPRESENTED BY COLIN
2:35:04PM RICE.
2:35:05PM THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT THAT'S A PART OF THE
2:35:08PM JANUARY 2022 AMENDMENT CYCLE, AND THIS REQUEST IS TO AMEND
2:35:12PM THE BONUS PROVISIONS AS THEY WOULD BE APPLY TO THE CHANNEL
2:35:15PM DISTRICT.
2:35:17PM AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

2:35:20PM THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
2:35:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:35:24PM MR. RICE, ARE YOU THE PETITIONER?
2:35:26PM >> COLIN RICE: CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME?
2:35:34PM TERRIFIC.
2:35:34PM NO FURTHER PRESENTATIONS TODAY.
2:35:36PM JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
2:35:38PM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:35:39PM THANK YOU.
2:35:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS?
2:35:42PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
2:35:44PM THIS?
2:35:48PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:35:50PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:35:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:35:52PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:35:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
2:35:55PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
2:35:57PM TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO BONUS PROVISIONS IN THE CHANNEL
2:35:59PM DISTRICT MAKING REVISIONS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
2:36:02PM ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27 ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT AMENDING
2:36:04PM SECTION 27-140, BONUS PROVISIONS, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES
2:36:08PM OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR
2:36:12PM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:36:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

2:36:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:36:16PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:36:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:36:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEP.
2:36:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:36:20PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:36:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:36:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:36:24PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
2:36:27PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:36:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:36:30PM >>LACHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
2:36:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. DOCK.
2:36:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: NUMBER 93 AND 9 , I DON'T KNOW FITS
2:36:38PM POSSIBLE TO, BUT MY FIRM DOES BUSINESS WITH THAN AN
2:36:44PM INDIVIDUAL HOE HAS AN INTEREST IN THIS.
2:36:46PM MY FIRM DOES NOT WORK ON ANY CITY RELATED PROJECTS, AND WE
2:36:50PM ALSO ARE NOT WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, BUT ON THE ADVICE OF
2:36:55PM MS. CATE AND CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY IN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION I
2:36:58PM AM GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF ON BOTH OF THOSE.
2:37:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:37:10PM CITY COUNCIL, 93 AND 98, CAN WE DO 98 AFTER 93?
2:37:17PM OKAY.
2:37:20PM ANYONE WHO IS GIVING ANY TESTIMONY.
2:37:24PM >>CATE WELLS: FOR THE RECORD.

2:37:27PM REALIZING THAT 93 AND 98 ARE RELATED, I THINK THE REZONING
2:37:30PM SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN ADVANCE OF THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
2:37:33PM APPLICATION.
2:37:33PM SO IF 98 CAN BE HEARD PRIOR TO 93.
2:37:38PM THANK YOU.
2:37:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:37:39PM ALL RIGHT.
2:37:46PM WE ARE NOW IN QUASI-JUDICIAL.
2:37:48PM ANYBODY GIVING ANY EVIDENCE FOR ANY OF THE REMAINING
2:37:53PM HEARINGS, AGENDA ITEMS, ANYONE GIVING ANY EVIDENCE OR
2:38:02PM COMMENTS, PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN IN.
2:38:03PM >>THE CLERK: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
2:38:07PM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
2:38:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:38:23PM PER REQUEST WE WILL HEAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 98, WHICH IS
2:38:28PM FILE NUMBER REZ 22-97.
2:38:34PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:38:38PM ITEM NUMBER 98 IS REZ 22-97 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
2:38:43PM READING AND ADOPTION FOR 4004 HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
2:38:47PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM CG COMMERCIAL
2:38:51PM GENERAL TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESTAURANT AND ALL
2:38:56PM COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES.
2:39:02PM DOCUMENTS WERE DROPPED OFF THIS WEEK AT CITY HALL.
2:39:06PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
2:39:07PM >>RYAN MANASSE: WE ARE HERE

2:39:20PM RYAN MANASSE, JOHNSON POPE, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, SUITE
2:39:20PM 3100. WE ARE HERE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. WE HAVE
2:39:20PM MADE ALL CORRECTIONS.
2:39:22PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:39:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE,
2:39:23PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
2:39:26PM AGENDA ITEM 98?
2:39:31PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:39:32PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:39:34PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:39:35PM THANK YOU.
2:39:36PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:39:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND
2:39:42PM READING AND ADOPTION, REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
2:39:45PM VICINITY OF 4004 HENDERSON BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
2:39:49PM FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
2:39:52PM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD
2:39:55PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESTAURANT, AND ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL
2:39:57PM USES, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:39:58PM >> SECOND.
2:40:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY
2:40:02PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:40:03PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:40:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:40:07PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

2:40:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:40:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:40:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:40:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:40:13PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
2:40:15PM ABSTAINING.
2:40:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:40:19PM NOW AGENDA ITEM 93, FILE AB-2-22-13.
2:40:29PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:40:31PM ITEM NUMBER 936 IS AB 2-22-13 FOR SECOND READING AND
2:40:36PM ADOPTION FOR SPECIAL USE 2.
2:40:38PM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES FOR SMALL VENUE FOR CONSUMPTION OFF
2:40:42PM PREMISES OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, AT 4004 HENDERSON
2:40:46PM BOULEVARD.
2:40:47PM SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AT CITY HALL EARLIER THIS WEEK.
2:40:50PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:40:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
2:40:55PM MR. MANASSE.
2:40:56PM >> RYAN MANASSE, JOHNSON POPE. 401 EAST JACKSON STREET,
2:41:01PM SUITE 3100.
2:41:04PM WE MADE CORRECTIONS TO HOURS OF OPERATION AND REQUEST YOUR
2:41:09PM APPROVAL.
2:41:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS
2:41:13PM IN CHAMBERS?
2:41:14PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?

2:41:16PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:41:18PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:41:20PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:41:22PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:41:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER AB 2-22-13.
2:41:27PM AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
2:41:29PM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2
2:41:33PM FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
2:41:37PM PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
2:41:40PM REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON
2:41:44PM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 4004
2:41:49PM HENDERSON BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY
2:41:52PM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR
2:41:55PM PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN
2:41:58PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:41:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
2:42:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECONDED BY
2:42:04PM MANISCALCO.
2:42:05PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:42:06PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:42:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:42:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:42:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:42:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:42:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

2:42:13PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
2:42:14PM ABSTAINING.
2:42:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:42:17PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 94.
2:42:19PM FILE REZ 22-50.
2:42:21PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:42:26PM ITEM NUMBER 94 IS REZ 22-50 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
2:42:30PM READING AND ADOPTION FOR LOCATED AT 1402 EAST 98th
2:42:36PM AVENUE.
2:42:36PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS 350
2:42:39PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
2:42:44PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:42:46PM AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS ON THE LINE AS WELL.
2:42:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
2:42:52PM APPLICANT, YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN, HAVEN'T YOU?
2:42:56PM YOU ARE MUTED.
2:42:57PM >> GOOD DAY.
2:43:01PM THIS IS JENNIFER BARRITTE FOR FILE NUMBER 94.
2:43:07PM I AM STILL REQUESTING TO RM-18, NOTHING HAS CHANGED AND I
2:43:12PM RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
2:43:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN?
2:43:16PM >> YES, THANK YOU.
2:43:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY, I AM NOT DOUBTING YOU ABOUT YOU
2:43:24PM LET'S JUST SWEAR YOU IN TO MAKE SURE WE COVER ALL OUR BASES.
2:43:28PM >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

2:43:30PM DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU JUST
2:43:32PM PROVIDED IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
2:43:34PM >> YES.
2:43:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:43:40PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
2:43:41PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO
2:43:43PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 94?
2:43:46PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:43:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONTO ON LINE?
2:43:50PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:43:51PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
2:43:54PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:43:55PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:43:56PM THANK YOU.
2:43:57PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:43:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE REZ 22-50.
2:44:02PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
2:44:04PM IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1402 EAST 98th AVENUE IN THE
2:44:14PM CITY OF TAMPA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
2:44:18PM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
2:44:20PM SINGLE-FAMILY TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN
2:44:23PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:44:23PM >> SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:44:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:44:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

2:44:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:44:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:44:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:44:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:44:32PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
2:44:35PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:44:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:44:37PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 95.
2:44:42PM REZ 22-60.
2:44:43PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:44:45PM ITEM NUMBER 95 IS REZ 22-60 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
2:44:50PM READING AND ADOPTION FOR 1515 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
2:44:54PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM OP 1 OFFICE
2:44:59PM PROFESSIONAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
2:45:02PM MULTIFAMILY AND RESTAURANT USES. SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED
2:45:05PM OFF AT CITY HALL EARLIER THIS WEEK.
2:45:09PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:45:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES? PETITIONER?
2:45:13PM >> KAMI CORBETT, HILL, WARD, HENDERSON, JUST HERE TO ANSWER
2:45:16PM ANY QUESTIONS AND I BELIEVE RANDY COEN OUR EXPERT
2:45:20PM TRANSPORTATION IS ONLINE WITH AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
2:45:23PM YOUR APPROVAL.
2:45:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
2:45:27PM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
2:45:29PM THIS?

2:45:31PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE?
2:45:35PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:45:37PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:45:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:45:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 95, FILE REZ 22-60.
2:45:48PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
2:45:51PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
2:45:53PM 1515 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
2:45:57PM AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
2:46:00PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION OP-1 OFFICE PROFESSIONAL TO PD
2:46:05PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, AND
2:46:07PM RESTAURANT USES, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:46:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
2:46:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:46:14PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:46:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:46:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:46:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:46:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:46:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:46:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:46:22PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:46:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 96 FILE REZ 22-66.
2:46:30PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:46:34PM ITEM NUMBER 96 IS REZ 22-66.

2:46:38PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READ BEING AND ADOPTION.
2:46:41PM 326 SOUTH PLANT AVENUE.
2:46:45PM FROM RO-1 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
2:46:48PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY USES.
2:46:50PM SITE PLANS WERE TURNED IN TO CITY HALL EARLIER THIS WEEK.
2:46:53PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:46:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
2:46:58PM APPLICANT?
2:47:02PM KEN REALI, EAST JACKSON STREET, HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:47:07PM REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
2:47:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:47:12PM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT?
2:47:15PM WE HAVE NO ONE ONLINE?
2:47:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO --
2:47:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:47:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED BY GUDES.
2:47:24PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:47:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE NUMBER 96, FILE REZ 22-66, ORDINANCE
2:47:30PM BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
2:47:33PM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 326
2:47:35PM SOUTH PLANT AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
2:47:38PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
2:47:41PM CLASSIFICATION RO-1 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO PD PLANNED
2:47:44PM DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN
2:47:46PM EFFECTIVE DATE.

2:47:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
2:47:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:47:52PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:47:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:47:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:47:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:47:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:47:57PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:47:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:47:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:48:00PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:48:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:48:03PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 97.
2:48:04PM FILE REZ 22-67.
2:48:09PM MS. BARNES.
2:48:09PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:48:13PM ITEM NUMBER 97 IS REZ 22-67 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
2:48:18PM ADOPTION, WITH 3002 ESPANOL LANE, 3015 WEST SANTIAGO STREET,
2:48:25PM 3105 BAY OAKS COURT, 3015 SOUTH YSABELLA AVENUE, FROM RM-35
2:48:34PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND PD TO PD FOR RESIDENTIAL
2:48:38PM MULTIFAMILY USES INCLUDING INTERIM PARKING USES.
2:48:43PM SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF EARLIER AT CITY HALL THIS WEEK.
2:48:45PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:48:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
2:48:55PM >>TYLER HUDSON: 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE HERE TO ANSWER ANY

2:48:59PM QUESTIONS.
2:48:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:49:02PM ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE?
2:49:03PM >> I HAVE PROPERTY AT -- OH, SORRY.
2:49:08PM AND THE RESIDENTS -- OH, MY NAME IS JOLENE NELL.
2:49:19PM SOME I HAVE THE PROPERTY ON SANTIAGO, 2927, AND WE WOULD
2:49:23PM LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE PARKING RESTRICTIONS FOR THAT STREET
2:49:27PM BASED ON THE REZONING.
2:49:31PM WOULD RESIDENTS BE ALLOWED TO PARK ON THIS STREET WITH THE
2:49:35PM CURRENT ZONING, THE PROPOSED ZONING?
2:49:41PM THIS IS A QUESTION THAT WE HAVE.
2:49:43PM AND WOULD PARKING BE ALLOWED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET OR
2:49:47PM PARKING ONLY ON THE SIDE THAT MY STRUCTURE IS LOCATED ON?
2:49:51PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
2:50:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: REBUTTAL?
2:50:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PRESENTATION?
2:50:11PM >>TYLER HUDSON: JUST TO ANSWER A QUESTION THAT COUNCIL
2:50:13PM MIGHT ASK ME, THERE IS NO PARKING ON SANTIAGO STREET.
2:50:16PM WE ALREADY HAVE PERMITTED PLANS FOR SANTIAGO STREET.
2:50:20PM RECALL THIS IS A REZONING THAT COUNCIL APPROVED IN 2020.
2:50:24PM WE ARE HERE MODIFYING IT.
2:50:25PM SO OUR VIEW IS THAT SANTIAGO IS GOING TO BE MUCH IMPROVED
2:50:29PM WITH SIDEWALKS.
2:50:30PM WE TALKED TO SEVERAL MEMBERS, SEVERAL RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN
2:50:33PM HOME COMMUNITY OF SANTIAGO REFERENCE THE MAJORITY WAS THAT

2:50:37PM THERE NOT BE ON-STREET PARKING INSTEAD OF SIDEWALKS, AND
2:50:41PM THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO.
2:50:44PM WE WILL CERTAINLY BE DISCUSSING THIS PLAN WITH THE SPECIFIC
2:50:48PM RESIDENTS YOU SPOKE OF BUT THE PLAN IS NO ON-STREET PARKING,
2:50:53PM SIDEWALKS WHICH I THINK IS GOING TO BETTER CONNECT
2:50:56PM MacDILL, BAYSHORE, PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS.
2:51:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OTHER QUESTIONS?
2:51:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:51:06PM >> DIANE VERSAGGI, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE
2:51:18PM YOURSELF AND TURN ON YOUR VIDEO.
2:51:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ARE MUTED.
2:51:31PM >> SORRY.
2:51:38PM CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN TO SHOW A COUPLE OF IMAGES?
2:51:41PM >>THE CLERK: YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN FIRST.
2:51:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:51:49PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
2:51:51PM YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
2:51:53PM TRUTH?
2:51:54PM >> I DO.
2:51:57PM AM I ABLE TO SHOW IMAGES ON HERE?
2:51:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU SHARE YOUR SCREEN?
2:52:01PM >> OKAY.
2:52:03PM ALL RIGHT.
2:52:11PM ALL RIGHT.
2:52:11PM ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE PowerPoint?

2:52:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, WE ARE.
2:52:16PM >> PERFECT.
2:52:17PM ALL RIGHT.
2:52:17PM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CITY COUNCIL, FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
2:52:20PM I AM DIANE VERSAGGI, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
2:52:27PM HERE IS A PICTURE OF US MOVING IN IN 1978.
2:52:30PM JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE ARE LOCATED, LOOKING
2:52:33PM FROM DAY BAR TO SANTIAGO, WE ARE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE,
2:52:39PM 2917 SANTIAGO.
2:52:41PM AND WE ARE ON THE LEFT FROM YSABELLA. AND JUST AN AERIAL
2:52:45PM VIEW.
2:52:50PM THIS IS BAYSHORE.
2:52:51PM THIS IS OUR DRIVEWAY OFF OF YSABELLA.
2:52:54PM SO IT WAS RELATED THAT THE TREES WILL BE PROTECTED WITH
2:52:59PM ALTERNATIVE CONSTRUCTION METHODS WHICH IS FANTASTIC.
2:53:04PM REQUESTED IN THE PLANS GOING FORWARD, SO THERE ISN'T ANY
2:53:07PM CONFUSION IN THE FUTURE AND NO ONE TRIES TO TAKE DOWN A TREE
2:53:11PM AND APOLOGIZE LATER.
2:53:14PM AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE THREE FROM THE TOP PICTURE IN THE
2:53:17PM PROGRAM.
2:53:18PM THE INTERSECTION WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE THE STREET REALLY LOOK
2:53:22PM OLD TAMPA BUT WOULD ALSO LET THAT TREE LIVE AND THE TREE
2:53:25PM COVERAGE WAS A MASSIVE SELLING POINT FOR US SO I WOULD
2:53:28PM IMAGINE WE WOULD WANT TO KEEP THAT CANOPY.
2:53:31PM THE PROJECT HAS ALREADY TAKEN TREE COVERAGE FROM 52% TO 4 SO

2:53:35PM WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP AS MANY TREES AS WE CAN.
2:53:38PM AND JUST TO SHOW YOU ON THAT TO IMAGE WE TALKED LAST MONTH
2:53:41PM ABOUT PEOPLE ILLEGALLY PARKING ON THAT INTERSECTION.
2:53:45PM THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE DO ILLEGAL PARKING.
2:53:49PM AND THE TRAFFIC I WANTED TO ALSO MENTION, WITHIN THREE CITY
2:53:52PM BLOCKS BORDERED MOST BY TWO LANE ROADS WE HAVE ALLOWED 333
2:53:58PM UNITS BETWEEN TWO AND FOUR BEDROOMS TO BE BUILT, AND JUST TO
2:54:02PM GIVE YOU AN IDEA ON YSABELLA, THIS IS A LOT MORE BEDROOMS
2:54:09PM PER STREET, AND WE JUST REQUEST EVEN FOR US, EVEN FOR THE
2:54:12PM RICH PEOPLE THAT GOING TO MOVE IN, THAT THE CITY DO A
2:54:15PM TRAFFIC STUDY ON MacDILL, BAY TO BAY AND BAYSHORE IN
2:54:18PM RELATION TO YSABELLA.
2:54:20PM I KNOW RIGHT NOW EVEN WITH NO ONE LIVING THERE, TO MAKE A
2:54:24PM LEFT ONTO BAY TO BAY FROM YSABELLA ESPECIALLY DURING BUSY
2:54:27PM TIMES IT'S VERY DANGEROUS, AND MENTIONING A LEFT ON
2:54:30PM MacDILL FROM SANTIAGO. AND RESIDENTS KNOW HOW HORRIBLE
2:54:35PM IT IS.
2:54:36PM ALSO AS FOR GUEST PARKING, I KNOW THERE -- HAS THE CITY
2:54:42PM CONSIDERED ALLOWING RESIDENTS OR EVEN GUESTS TO PARK UNDER
2:54:47PM THE LEE ROY SELMON EXPRESSWAY?
2:54:52PM IF YOU LOOK THERE'S NO PUBLIC PARKING WHATSOEVER IN THIS
2:54:57PM ENTIRE AREA.
2:54:58PM IF ANYBODY WANTED TO PUBLIC PARK THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO OVER
2:55:01PM TO THE OTHER SIDE OF MacDILL WHICH IS ALSO DANGEROUS.
2:55:04PM I JUST WANT TO ALSO MENTION, I KNOW THAT ANNIE HAS BEEN

2:55:08PM PRESENTING A STAFF REPORT IN SEPTEMBER SO I KNOW WAIVERS ARE
2:55:11PM NEAR DURING CONSTRUCTION.
2:55:12PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE CITY COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING THE
2:55:15PM REZONING FACTOR FOR IT IN THE FUTURE.
2:55:20PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
2:55:21PM [BELL SOUNDS]
2:55:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:55:24PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:55:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM NOT 100% POSITIVE ON THIS ONE BUT
2:55:28PM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT WOULDN'T THE CITY OF TAMPA, IT TWO
2:55:30PM EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY, SO UNDERNEATH THE EXPRESSWAY AS YOU
2:55:33PM MENTION, YES?
2:55:38PM >> I THOUGHT YOU WERE ASKING ME A QUESTION.
2:55:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, I WAS RESPONDING TO MS. VERSAGGI.
2:55:45PM I THINK THEY ARE LOOKING AT UTILIZING OR ACTIVATING THAT
2:55:48PM BOTTOM PART TO MAKE IT MORE, I DON'T KNOW, WHETHER A DOG
2:55:52PM PARK, WHETHER SOMETHING THAT IS MORE SO THAN WHAT IT IS, YOU
2:55:55PM KNOW, JUST PLAIN.
2:55:57PM SO THAT MAYBE COMING IN THE FUTURE.
2:55:58PM I AM NOT 100% POSITIVE, BUT I THINK THERE MAY BE SOMETHING
2:56:02PM IN THE WORKS, OR BEING TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE
2:56:05PM THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY, NOT THE CITY.
2:56:07PM BUT I THINK SOMETHING IS COMING IN THE FUTURE.
2:56:09PM THANK YOU.
2:56:09PM >> THANK YOU.

2:56:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. HUDSON, DID YOU WANT REBUTTAL?
2:56:15PM I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOMETHING IN YOUR PLANS ABOUT THAT AREA.
2:56:17PM >>TYLER HUDSON: SURE.
2:56:20PM ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ONLINE?
2:56:22PM OKAY.
2:56:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:56:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST SO-DOESN'T HAVE TO DO IT BACKWARDS.
2:56:28PM SINCE YOU ARE ALSO THE TRANSPORTATION GUY, CAN YOU LET US
2:56:30PM KNOW THE PLANS YOU HAVE FOR THAT PARK?
2:56:32PM THEY WON'T BE PRECLUDE PUTTING A TRAIN STATION THERE,
2:56:35PM CORRECT?
2:56:39PM >> I'LL ADDRESS THAT.
2:56:41PM TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE. IN TERMS MUCH
2:56:44PM PROTECTING THE TREES, THE SIDEWALK, WE SHALL OBLIGATED TO RE
2:56:48PM RYAN CERTAIN TREES.
2:56:49PM WE ARE CONFIDENT WE CAN DO BOTH.
2:56:51PM AS RICKY RELATED I CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT.
2:56:54PM THERE'S ALTERNATIVE CONSTRUCTION METHODS TO DO.
2:56:59PM BOARD WALKS.
2:56:59PM KEEPING THE TREES.
2:57:01PM THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE 100% ALIGNED.
2:57:07PM ON THAT PARKING WE ARE ACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO PUT NO PARKING
2:57:11PM SIGNS AT 45-DEGREE ANGLES IN PARTICULAR, AND WE ARE GOING TO
2:57:14PM DO THAT.
2:57:15PM SO THESE HAPPENING.

2:57:16PM TRAFFIC STUDY, WE DID DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.
2:57:19PM 200 UNITS ON THIS PIECE OF LAND FOUR YEARS AGO, 40 YEARS AGO
2:57:23PM THERE WERE 200 UNITS ON THIS AREA OF LAND.
2:57:26PM OUR TRAFFIC EXPERT IS HERE AS WELL IN THE BACK.
2:57:30PM THAT TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS THAT WOULD GENERATE FEWER TRIPS
2:57:32PM BECAUSE IT'S A HIGH-RISE AS OPPOSED TO A GARDEN STYLE
2:57:35PM APARTMENT.
2:57:37PM FOR GUEST PARKING WE ARE MEETING CODE IN TERMS OF GUEST
2:57:39PM PARKING.
2:57:40PM WE ARE NOT SEEKING A PARKING WAIVER.
2:57:42PM FINALLY WE HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY FOR YEARS
2:57:45PM NOW, CONVERSATIONS RECENTLY WITH DOUG SLATER THE NEW
2:57:50PM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR HOW TO DEVELOP THIS PARK.
2:57:53PM IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT PUBLIC ART COMPONENT THAT WILL BE
2:57:56PM CONTRIBUTING TO, AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME PARKING, BUT WE ARE
2:58:02PM GOING TO FOLLOW THEIR LEAD ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S THEIR
2:58:04PM PROPERTY, BUT WE CERTAINLY THINK IT WILL ENHANCE THAT FROM
2:58:09PM AN ART PERSPECTIVE I.HONESTLY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I
2:58:13PM KNOW THERE IS A TRAIN LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THERE SO WE'LL
2:58:16PM HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
2:58:18PM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
2:58:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:58:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:58:22PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
2:58:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,

2:58:25PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:58:27PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:58:28PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:58:33PM I AM SO SORRY.
2:58:36PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:58:36PM TRYING TO GET THE BEST OF BOTH WORLD HERE.
2:58:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND
2:58:42PM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IT?
2:58:46PM VERY GENERAL VICINITY OF 3002 ESPANOL LANE, 3015 WEST
2:58:53PM SANTIAGO STREET, 3105 BAY OAKS COURT AND 3015 SOUTH YSABELLA
2:59:01PM FROM ZONING CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND RM
2:59:05PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
2:59:08PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, INTERIM PARKING PROVIDING AN
2:59:10PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:59:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
2:59:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:59:14PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:59:16PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:59:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:59:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:59:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: I VOTE AGAINST THIS LAST TIME AND I STATED
2:59:23PM MY REASONS LAST TIME.
2:59:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:59:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:59:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

2:59:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:59:31PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
2:59:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 99, FILE VAC 22-20.
2:59:39PM >>ROSS SAMMONS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, FILE VAC 22-20.
2:59:47PM FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
2:59:49PM IT'S PROPOSED VACATING.
2:59:55PM CAN COUNCIL SEE MY SCREEN?
2:59:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:59:59PM >>ROSS SAMMONS: THANK YOU.
3:00:00PM THE APPLICANT'S NAME IS DEBORAH WILSON, PROPERTY ADDRESS IS
3:00:04PM 2903 EAST 17th AVENUE, TO VACATE APPORTION OF THE ALLEY
3:00:11PM LYING SOUTH OF 17th AVENUE, NORTH OF COLUMBUS DRIVE,
3:00:14PM EAST OF 29th STREET, WEST OF 30th STREET.
3:00:18PM THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED WITH CITY OF TAMPA ON MAY 1st
3:00:21PM OF 2022.
3:00:22PM THE APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY ON EACH SIDE OF THE ALLEY THAT
3:00:24PM IS PROPOSED TO BE VACATED.
3:00:31PM THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN THAT PORTION OF THE
3:00:33PM PROPERTY.
3:00:34PM THE SUBDIVISION PLAT, THE EXISTING ALLEYWAY REQUESTED TO BE
3:00:37PM VACATED IS APPROXIMATELY 1030 SQUARE FEET.
3:00:42PM HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IN RED AND THE
3:00:48PM PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN YELLOW.
3:00:51PM AGAIN, IT'S THE LOWEST PORTION OF THE ALLEY.
3:00:58PM HERE IS THE CITY OF TAMPA ATLAS PAGE SHOWING PREVIOUS

3:01:01PM VACATINGS IN THE VICINITY.
3:01:03PM AGAIN THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS IN PINK.
3:01:07PM AGAIN, THE PROPOSED TAKING IN RED, IN THE PLAT.
3:01:16PM THE IMAGE OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH FROM
3:01:19PM 17th AVENUE.
3:01:23PM THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING SOUTH FROM 17th AVENUE.
3:01:29PM THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING NORTH FROM COLUMBUS DRIVE.
3:01:32PM AS YOU CAN SEE, THE REST OF THE ALLEY LOCATED WITHIN THAT
3:01:35PM BLOCK IS BEING USED.
3:01:41PM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS VACATING Q.SPECIAL
3:01:44PM CONDITIONS, NATURAL RESOURCES MUST COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27,
3:01:49PM TREE PRESERVATION, DESIRE FOR IMPROVEMENTS, ADJACENT TO
3:01:53PM TREES IN ANY VACATED AREAS.
3:02:03PM MUST MEET ALL NFPA CODES DURING ANY PERMITTING.
3:02:07PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
3:02:07PM THANK YOU.
3:02:10PM TFR MUST MEET ALL NFPA CODES DURING ANY PERMITTING.
3:02:15PM >> DEBORAH WILSON, 2903 EAST 17th AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA
3:02:21PM 33605.
3:02:24PM THE ALLEY IS BEING USED NOW FOR DIFFERENT SITUATIONS, DRUGS,
3:02:36PM USE AND SALES, HIDING FROM THE POLICE.
3:02:38PM SO FIVE FEET OF THAT WILL BE ENCLOSED, WITH MY PROPERTY, SO
3:02:45PM IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET IN OR I WOULDN'T HAVE TO CLEAN
3:02:51PM THE WHOLE ENTIRE ALLEY.
3:02:53PM I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 13 YEARS, AND FOR 13 YEARS I HAVE

3:02:57PM CLEANED THAT WHOLE ALLEY INCLUDING MY PROPERTY.
3:02:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
3:03:08PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUTOPSIES WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
3:03:11PM THIS?
3:03:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
3:03:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:03:18PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:03:19PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:03:21PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:03:26PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:03:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE VAC 22-120, AN ORDINANCE BEING
3:03:31PM PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF
3:03:34PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING,
3:03:38PM AND ABANDONING THAT ALLEYWAY LOCATED NORTH OF COLUMBUS
3:03:41PM DRIVE, SOUTH OF 17th AVENUE, EAST OF 29th STREET AND
3:03:46PM WEST OF THE CSX RAILROAD WITHIN THE CORRECTED MAP OF THE
3:03:50PM GREENVILLE SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH
3:03:53PM COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2
3:03:57PM HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND
3:04:00PM RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN,
3:04:04PM PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
3:04:07PM PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS, AND REPEALING
3:04:10PM CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
3:04:12PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:04:12PM >> SECOND.

3:04:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
3:04:19PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:04:22PM ROLE CALL VOTE.
3:04:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES BE.
3:04:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
3:04:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:04:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
3:04:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
3:04:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
3:04:29PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
3:04:33PM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
3:04:34PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
3:04:37PM 3rd, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
3:04:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:04:42PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 100, FILE VAC 22-21.
3:04:46PM >>ROSS SAMMONS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION PRESENTING ITEM
3:04:52PM NUMBER 100, FILE VAC 22-21.
3:04:58PM THE APPLICANT'S NAME IS JESSICA JEAN.
3:05:01PM PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 3008 EAST 23rd AVENUE.
3:05:05PM THIS IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE ALLEY
3:05:09PM LYING NORTH OF 23rd AVENUE, SOUTH OF 24th AVENUE,
3:05:13PM EAST OF THE CSX RAILROAD AND WEST OF 31st STREET.
3:05:20PM THIS BY THE CITY OF TAMPA ON MAY 3rd, 2022, PROPERTY ON
3:05:26PM THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ALLEY PA IS ASKED TO BE VACATED.
3:05:30PM THE APPLICATION IS TO VACATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN ORDER TO

3:05:32PM ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY OF MAINTENANCE AND PRESERVATION,
3:05:37PM RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ALLEY WILL BE VESTED IN RESIDENTIAL
3:05:40PM PROPERTY.
3:05:41PM DOING SO WILL REDUCE DRAIN, TRESPASSING, CRIME, NEIGHBORHOOD
3:05:47PM WILL ALSO BENEFIT, AS THIS WILL DETER AND THE NEED FOR LAW
3:05:52PM ENFORCEMENT AREA TO SECURE THE AREA.
3:05:55PM THIS ALLEY WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT, EXISTING WHICH
3:06:00PM IS PROPOSED VACATED IS APPROXIMATELY 2,000 SQUARE FEET.
3:06:05PM THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY AGAIN IN RED.
3:06:07PM IN THE AERIAL.
3:06:09PM AND THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS THE ALLEY IN YELLOW.
3:06:23PM THIS IS THE CITY OF TAMPA ATLAS MAP.
3:06:27PM AGAIN THE AREA TO BE VACATED IS IN PINK.
3:06:30PM THIS IS THE PLAT WHERE THE ALLEY WAS DEDICATED, AND LOCATED
3:06:37PM ON BLOCK 3.
3:06:40PM APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING WEST FROM 31st STREET.
3:06:45PM THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST FROM 31st STREET.
3:06:51PM THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST FROM CSXR.
3:06:57PM YOU CAN SEE IT'S VERY OVERGROWN.
3:07:01PM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS VACATING REQUEST, EASEMENT
3:07:04PM RESERVATIONS ARE NEEDED FOR STORMWATER AND WASTEWATER.
3:07:07PM NATURAL RESOURCE, TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN FOR ANY
3:07:12PM IMPROVEMENTS ADJACENT TO THE TREES IN THE VACATED AREA.
3:07:15PM TFR MUST MEET ALL CODES DURING ANY PERMITTING.
3:07:24PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

3:07:27PM I STAND FOR QUESTIONS.
3:07:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SAMMONS? BE OKAY,
3:07:31PM NONE.
3:07:32PM APPLICANT.
3:07:35PM MS. JEAN?
3:07:37PM YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN?
3:07:39PM YOU NEED TO UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.
3:07:41PM >> I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
3:07:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:07:47PM >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
3:07:50PM DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT
3:07:52PM TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
3:07:56PM >> YES.
3:07:57PM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
3:07:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU MAY PROCEED.
3:08:04PM DO YOU HAVE ANY STATEMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE?
3:08:05PM >> OH, YES, MY NAME IS JESSICA JEAN, THE PROPERTY OWNER AT
3:08:10PM 3008 EAST 23rd EAVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33605 AND REQUESTING
3:08:16PM FOR MY ALLEY NEXT TO ME TO BE VACATED, AND.
3:08:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT YOUR PRESENTATION?
3:08:31PM >> YES.
3:08:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES
3:08:34PM TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE, THIS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 100, VAC
3:08:39PM 22-21?
3:08:43PM THERE IS NO ONE ONLINE.

3:08:44PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:08:47PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
3:08:50PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:08:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:08:52PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:08:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE VAC 22-21, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
3:08:58PM FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
3:09:02PM TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING
3:09:05PM THAT ALLEYWAY LOCATED 23rd AVENUE, SOUTH OF 24th
3:09:09PM AVENUE, EAST OF THE CSX RAILROAD AND WEST OF 31st STREET
3:09:14PM WITHIN THE PLAT OF LITTLE CUBA SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF
3:09:17PM TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED
3:09:20PM IN SECTION 2 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS
3:09:24PM AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN
3:09:28PM PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS
3:09:30PM PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING
3:09:33PM CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
3:09:35PM DATE.
3:09:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MAID MADE BID COUNCILMAN GUDES,
3:09:40PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:09:41PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:09:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
3:09:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
3:09:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:09:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

3:09:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
3:09:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
3:09:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
3:09:48PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:09:50PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
3:09:53PM 3rd, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
3:09:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:10:00PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 101.
3:10:01PM FILE VAC 22-23.
3:10:04PM >>ROSS SAMMONS: PRESENTING FILE VAC 22-23.
3:10:13PM THE APPLICANT IS HEATHER LEE.
3:10:15PM PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 2807 EAST NEVADA AVENUE.
3:10:20PM PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS VACATE THE ALLEY NORTH OF
3:10:26PM GLADYS STREET, SOUTH OF WARREN AVENUE, EAST OF NEVADA AVENUE
3:10:29PM AND WEST OF OLA AVENUE.
3:10:32PM APPLICANT APPLICATION WAS FILED ON JUNE 13, 2022, PROPERTY
3:10:37PM ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ALLEY REQUESTED TO BE VACATED.
3:10:40PM THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS OWNER
3:10:43PM MAINTENANCE, CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT, EXISTING ALLEY
3:10:46PM THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE VACATED IS APPROXIMATELY 3040 SQUARE
3:10:51PM NEAT.
3:10:52PM THE OWNER'S PROPERTY AGAIN IN RED, AND THE PROPOSED ALLEY
3:10:58PM VACATING IN YELLOW.
3:11:03PM AGAIN, CITY OF TAMPA ATLAS MAP SHOWING PREVIOUSLY VACATED
3:11:07PM ALLEYS, AND AGAIN THE PROPOSED VACATING IN PINK.

3:11:16PM AGAIN THE ALLEY SUPPOSED TO BE VACATED WITHIN THE ALLEY
3:11:19PM SUBDIVISION PLAT IN RED.
3:11:23PM THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING EAST FROM NORTH NEVADA
3:11:27PM AVENUE.
3:11:29PM THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST
3:11:32PM FROM NEVADA AVENUE.
3:11:37PM AND THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST OF NORTH
3:11:41PM OLA AVENUE.
3:11:42PM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
3:11:46PM EASEMENT RESERVATIONS ARE NEEDED FOR FRONTIER AND TECO.
3:11:50PM NATURAL RESOURCES MUST COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27 IN REGARD TO
3:11:53PM TREE PRESERVATION, SITE DESIGN, FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS,
3:11:55PM ADJACENT TO TREES IN THE VACATED AREA.
3:11:59PM TFA MUST MEET ALL NFPA CODES DURING ANY PERMITTING.
3:12:08PM THAT'S ALL.
3:12:09PM THANK YOU.
3:12:09PM >> HEATHER LEE.
3:12:11PM I WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT THE ADDRESS. IT'S 2807 NORTH NEVADA
3:12:17PM AVENUE. NOT EAST NEVADA AVENUE.
3:12:18PM OTHER THAN THAT, NOTHING TO SAY REGARDING THE APPLICATION
3:12:23PM REQUEST.
3:12:31PM I'M SORRY, THE APPLICATION IS MISSING A NUMBER?
3:12:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, IT DOESN'T HAVE ONE.
3:12:35PM SO NORTH PLATTED STREET AND NORTH --
3:12:40PM >> THE GENTLEMAN ON THE SCREEN HAS THE APPLICANT'S ADDRESS.

3:12:45PM IT'S 2807.
3:12:47PM >> MY APOLOGIES.
3:12:50PM >> NO WORRIES.
3:12:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
3:12:53PM THANK YOU.
3:12:59PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
3:13:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO
3:13:02PM SPEAK TO THIS?
3:13:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
3:13:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
3:13:09PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:13:10PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:13:13PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:13:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE TO MOVE 101, FILE VAC 22-23, ORDINANCE
3:13:27PM BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
3:13:29PM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING,
3:13:30PM DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING THE ALLEYWAY LOCATED NORTH OF
3:13:35PM GLADYS STREET, SOUTH OF WARREN AVENUE, EAST OF NEVADA
3:13:39PM AVENUE, AND WEST OF OLA AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF BEN HUR
3:13:45PM SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
3:13:47PM FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HA HEREOF
3:13:50PM SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS
3:13:53PM MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT
3:13:57PM AND PENALTIES, FOR VIOLATIONS FOR INTERPRETATIONS, REPEALING
3:14:01PM FOR CONFLICT, DEFINITIONS INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING

3:14:06PM CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
3:14:07PM DATE.
3:14:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
3:14:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:14:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
3:14:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
3:14:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
3:14:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
3:14:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
3:14:15PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:14:16PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
3:14:18PM 3rd, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
3:14:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY, I JUST REMEMBERED AN OLD RED
3:14:34PM BUTTONS JOKE.
3:14:35PM SORRY.
3:14:35PM [ LAUGHTER ]
3:14:40PM BEN HUR HAD A SISTER.
3:14:44PM BEN HIM.
3:14:46PM I GUESS IT WAS AN OLD RED BUTTONS JOKE.
3:14:50PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 102.
3:14:53PM ASKING TO BE RESCHEDULED TO NOVEMBER 17th.
3:14:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
3:15:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
3:15:09PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:15:10PM ALL IN FAVOR?

3:15:11PM >>THE CLERK: JUST TO SET A TIME NOVEMBER 17th.
3:15:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 1:30 P.M. ON NOVEMBER 17th, 2022.
3:15:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 103.
3:15:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOR THAT ONE, I HAVE GOT TO LEAVE THE
3:15:28PM ROOM.
3:15:29PM I MANAGE A TRUST THAT HAS A PROPERTY IN THE VICINITY OF THAT
3:15:32PM HOUSE AND WAS NOTIFIED.
3:15:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:15:38PM 1023.
3:15:39PM FILE VRB 22-24-C.
3:15:42PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
3:15:48PM CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, REGARDING VRB
3:15:53PM 22-24 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4917 NORTH ARRAWANA
3:16:00PM AVENUE.
3:16:00PM THIS WAS FILED ON BEHALF OF THE AUTHORIZED AGENT MR. CARLOS
3:16:05PM CASTILLOS FOR THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED ADDRESS.
3:16:11PM HE FILED A REQUEST TO HAVE THE VRB --
3:16:21PM THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD HEARD THIS ON JULY 12TH, 2022 AND
3:16:25PM DENIED THE REQUEST BASED UPON THE APPLICANT NOT MEETING THE
3:16:30PM HARDSHIP CRITERIA AS SET FORTH IN CODE SECTION 27-80.
3:16:36PM CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN PROVIDED THE CODE SECTIONS 27-80 AND
3:16:40PM CODE SECTION 27-61.
3:16:43PM SAMPLE MOTIONS AS WELL AS SAMPLE MOTIONS AND RULES OF
3:16:47PM PROCEDURE.
3:16:50PM THE STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THIS REVIEW HEARING IS FOUND IN

3:16:53PM CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBSECTION J, SUBSECTION 2, AND IT
3:17:00PM PROVIDES THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN CONDUCT A DE NOVO REVIEW
3:17:03PM HEARING WHICH MEANS THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN ACCEPT NEW
3:17:06PM EVIDENCE, TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY, AND MAKE A DECISION TO
3:17:10PM DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICANT OR THE PETITIONER HAS
3:17:12PM MET THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA AS SET FORTH IN CODE SECTION
3:17:15PM 27-80.
3:17:17PM STAFF JAYNE NMADU IS ONLINE TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE
3:17:24PM APPLICATION THAT WAS REQUESTED AND THE DECISION FROM THE
3:17:27PM VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
3:17:29PM UNLIKE THE OTHER REVIEW HEARINGS WHERE CITY COUNCIL
3:17:32PM CONSIDERS DECISIONS FROM STAFF, CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THIS
3:17:38PM APPLICATION CAN TAKE THREE ACTIONS:
3:17:41PM CITY COUNCIL AFTER REVIEWING THE EVIDENCE IN THIS CASE CAN
3:17:44PM AFFIRM THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD DECISION AND DENY THE
3:17:48PM VARIANCE REQUESTED.
3:17:51PM CITY COUNCIL CAN REMAND OR CITY COUNCIL CAN REMAND THE
3:17:53PM MATTER BACK TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD WITH SPECIFIC
3:17:57PM INSTRUCTIONS.
3:17:57PM FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD
3:18:01PM DECISION AND GRANT THE VARIANCE REQUEST.
3:18:04PM AND WITH THAT I WILL TURN -- YES?
3:18:09PM TURN -- OKAY.
3:18:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, FORGIVE ME FOR INTERRUPTING.
3:18:16PM I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RECEIVE ANY

3:18:18PM EX PARTE WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS AND ANY OTHER THINGS AT THIS
3:18:22PM TIME, AND A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE WRITTEN EX PARTE
3:18:28PM COMMUNICATIONS.
3:18:33PM OKAY, JUST A MOTION, PLEASE.
3:18:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:18:36PM >> MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
3:18:39PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:18:40PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:18:41PM >> I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MS. NMADU FOR HER PRESENTATION.
3:18:48PM >>JAYNE NMADU: PERMISSION TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
3:18:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE, SHARE YOUR SCREEN, PLEASE.
3:19:01PM WE SEE IT.
3:19:02PM IT'S NOW BEING ENLARGED.
3:19:04PM CAN YOU PLEASE BRING UP THE PRESENTATION?
3:19:06PM >>JAYNE NMADU: HAS THE PRESENTATION COME UP?
3:19:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO BE CLEAR FOR THE
3:19:23PM RECORD, HAS SHE BEEN SWORN?
3:19:26PM DEPRIVE ME.
3:19:27PM >> HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN?
3:19:31PM >> NO, I HAVEN'T.
3:19:32PM >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
3:19:34PM DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT
3:19:37PM TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
3:19:40PM >>JAYNE NMADU: YES, I DO.
3:19:44PM DO YOU SEE MY SCREEN?

3:19:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE SEE IT BUT IT IS NOT IN PRESENTATION
3:19:49PM MODE.
3:19:49PM THERE YOU GO.
3:19:50PM >>JAYNE NMADU: ALL RIGHT.
3:19:54PM GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS JAYNE NMADU WITH DEVELOPMENT
3:19:58PM COORDINATION.
3:19:59PM THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 103, VRB 22-24-C, AND THIS IS BEING
3:20:06PM PRESENTED TO YOU FOR A REVIEW HEARING REGARDING THE DECISION
3:20:10PM OF THE VRB BOARD FOR THE PROPERTY ADDRESS AT 4917 NORTH
3:20:16PM ARRAWANA AVENUE.
3:20:22PM PETITIONER IS CARLOS CASTILE.
3:20:25PM THE PROPERTY OWNER IS YSAMAN MARRERO GACITA, 4917 NORTH
3:20:33PM ARRAWANA AVENUE, ZONED RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
3:20:37PM THE VARIANCE REQUEST. TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM 7
3:20:41PM FEET TO 3 FEET, AND THIS IS FOR AN EXISTING ADDITION TO A
3:20:45PM SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING.
3:20:57PM IT'S SECTION 27-156-C THAT HAS THE SCHEDULE OF AREA HEIGHT
3:21:03PM AND PLACEMENT, 20 FEET FRONT, 20 FEET REAR, 7 FEET SIDES.
3:21:11PM IN DETERMINATION OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST. THE BOARD
3:21:14PM CONSIDERED SECTION 27-80 THAT HAS THE CRITERIA FOR THE
3:21:17PM APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST. AND LEGAL ALREADY WENT
3:21:22PM THROUGH WHAT THAT CRITERIA IS AND THAT WAS THE DETERMINATION
3:21:25PM THAT THE BOARD USED IN THE DECISION FOR THIS VARIANCE
3:21:27PM REQUEST.
3:21:31PM THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD HAD THE CASE ON JULY 12, 2022,

3:21:36PM AFTER TESTIMONY DENIED THE REQUEST 5-0 TO REDUCE SIDE YARD
3:21:40PM SET BACK FROM 7 FEET TO 3 FEET.
3:21:43PM THIS IS THE AERIAL SHOWING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED
3:21:46PM IN ORANGE DASH.
3:21:49PM IT'S AN ANTERIOR IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
3:21:54PM AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED
3:21:57PM SHOWING US THE FAMILY DWELLING AND HERE IN THE REAR IS WHERE
3:22:02PM WE HAVE THE ADDITION TO THAT SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING.
3:22:07PM THE ATTACH IN THE BACK, THAT IS THE NEW ADDITION, EXISTING
3:22:11PM ADDITION, AND ON THE NORTH SIDE IS WHERE YOU HAVE THAT 7
3:22:23PM FEET.
3:22:24PM THIS THE APPLICANT PROVIDED SHOWING WHAT WHATS THE EXISTING
3:22:29PM SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING.
3:22:30PM ON THE LEFT AND ON THE RIGHT, YOU HAVE WHAT IS NOW THE NEW
3:22:36PM CONDITION TO THAT SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
3:22:41PM ELEVATION SHOWING EXISTING -- THE NEW ADDITION AS WELL.
3:22:50PM THIS WAS REVIEWED BY OUR STAFF AND FOUND CONSISTENT AND
3:22:58PM LETTERS OF SUPPORT OR OBJECTION TO THIS APPLICATION, AND I
3:23:01PM AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
3:23:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
3:23:07PM ARE YOU SAYING THAT THIS WASN'T PERMITTED?
3:23:10PM >>JAYNE NMADU: CORRECT.
3:23:15PM THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR BUILDING PERMIT THAT IS PENDING, THE
3:23:19PM VARIANCE APPROVAL.
3:23:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOW LONG AGO WAS IT BUILT?

3:23:26PM >>JAYNE NMADU: I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
3:23:30PM I'M SORRY.
3:23:31PM YOU CAN RESEARCH THAT TO YOU.
3:23:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:23:34PM PETITIONER.
3:23:35PM OH, I'M SORRY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
3:23:38PM PETITIONER.
3:23:39PM >> MY NAME IS CARLOS CASTILLA, 9136 WEST MARTIN LUTHER KING,
3:24:04PM SUITE 205.
3:24:14PM BUILT THAT LAST YEAR, NOVEMBER.
3:24:18PM AND START TO BUILD BECAUSE HIS FAMILY WAS COMING, SO HE GOT
3:24:26PM THE HOUSE, TWO BEDROOM ONE BATHROOM.
3:24:31PM AND WHEN THEY MOVED, HIS FAMILY IS COMING, THEY START TO
3:24:34PM BUILD, AND BRING TWO BEDROOMS, THEY ARE ALREADY LIVING IN
3:24:50PM THERE.
3:24:53PM SHE'S A SISTER, THEY ARE ALREADY THERE.
3:24:57PM SO IT'S SIX -- BEDROOM HOUSE, SO NOW, THE FAMILY IS IN THE
3:25:11PM HOUSE, WITHOUT ASKING ME FIRST.
3:25:20PM SO WHEN I WAS AT THE OTHER MEETING I DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY
3:25:26PM WHAT WAS COMING, SO I TRIED TO GET THE PERMIT AND I KNEW --
3:25:43PM THE OTHER IS BECAUSE ON THE BACK, YOU CAN SEE, LATERAL, OR
3:25:51PM ALONG LIKE THE BACK OR SOMETHING, WELL, LIKE THE LAN PHI FOR
3:26:01PM THE PEOPLE TO PLAY, TORE CHILDREN.
3:26:04PM SO ON THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE, THE BATHROOM ON THAT SIDE, SO
3:26:13PM LEAVE ROOM FOR THE LANAI.

3:26:17PM SO THAT'S WHY.
3:26:20PM THE LAST TIME, I DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE
3:26:23PM GOING TO BE THERE.
3:26:25PM SHE TOLD ME LATER.
3:26:38PM NOW I KNOW THE SISTER WITH HER CHILDREN.
3:26:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DOES THAT FINISH YOUR PRESENTATION?
3:26:57PM >> YES.
3:26:58PM THANK YOU.
3:26:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE THAT THOSE
3:27:01PM ARE HIS PARENTS AND SISTER?
3:27:04PM >> YES.
3:27:05PM I WENT THERE, I TALKED TO THEM, WE SIT DOWN OUTSIDE.
3:27:12PM BECAUSE 14 IN THE WHOLE FAMILY.
3:27:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
3:27:17PM THAT'S HIS PRIMARY RESIDENCE?
3:27:18PM HE LIVES THERE AND THEY ARE LIVING THERE YOU ALREADY SAID.
3:27:24PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
3:27:25PM >> THANK YOU.
3:27:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:27:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.
3:27:29PM ARE YOU THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY?
3:27:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
3:27:31PM >> NO, NO, I AM REPRESENTING HIM BECAUSE HE SPEAKS SPANISH
3:27:34PM ONLY.
3:27:35PM ONLY SPEAKS SPANISH.

3:27:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OH, YOU ARE REPRESENTING THEM.
3:27:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE.
3:27:43PM THANK YOU, SIR.
3:27:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:27:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM NOT HEARING A HARDSHIP HERE, THOUGH.
3:27:52PM IS THERE A REASON THAT THEY -- THAT PHYSICALLY, IS THERE AN
3:27:57PM ABSOLUTE REASON YOU CANNOT BUILD IT IN THAT 7-FOOT SETBACK?
3:28:04PM OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, IS THERE A
3:28:06PM REASON THAT YOU CAN'T DO THAT?
3:28:12PM >> OH, BECAUSE THE SHAPE OF THE HOUSE, THE KITCHEN, SO THE
3:28:25PM CARPORT, THE OTHER BEDROOM.
3:28:27PM SO TO GET IT CLOSE.
3:28:34PM ON THE LANAI, WE TORE DOWN AN EXISTING ALUMINUM SOMETHING
3:28:42PM THERE, THE LANAI.
3:28:45PM THEY CALL AT LANAI.
3:28:47PM BUT --
3:28:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT THERE'S NOT A TREE THERE.
3:28:52PM >> NO.
3:28:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE WASN'T AN ACTUAL HARDSHIP REASON YOU
3:28:56PM HAD TO PUT THERETO?
3:28:57PM >> THE ONLY THING THAT I TELL YOU BECAUSE THEY NEED THE
3:29:03PM HOUSE, BECAUSE ALREADY DID IT.
3:29:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LEGAL, CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS?
3:29:20PM I AM GOING BACK TO MY VRB DAYS.
3:29:25PM THE APPLICANT WOULD STILL HAVE TO PAY DOUBLE PERMITTING

3:29:29PM FEES?
3:29:32PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
3:29:33PM I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
3:29:35PM I DON'T KNOW --
3:29:36PM >> THAT'S WHY --
3:29:39PM >> I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.
3:29:42PM IT WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH INSPECTION?
3:29:44PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: YES.
3:29:45PM STAFF CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
3:29:47PM AGAIN I DON'T KNOW.
3:29:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEN LET'S GO TO STAFF.
3:29:50PM IS THE APPLICANT STILL HAVE TO PAY DOUBLE PERMITTING FEES?
3:30:01PM THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING STAFF, OKAY?
3:30:04PM I AM GOING TO RELY ON MY OWN MEMORY HERE.
3:30:07PM YES, PERMITTING FEES AND THE BUILDING WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE
3:30:10PM INSPECTED.
3:30:13PM SO AGAIN I AM GOING BACK TO MY VRB DAYS.
3:30:20PM AND HOW MANY FEET OVER THE SETBACK IS IT?
3:30:25PM SIR, COME BACK UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.
3:30:28PM HOW MANY FEET OVER THE SETBACK IS IT?
3:30:33PM >> IT'S THREE AND A HALF.
3:30:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS IT WOOD FRAME OR BLOCK?
3:30:40PM >> BLOCK.
3:30:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOW DID ALL THIS GET DONE?
3:30:43PM I ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION.

3:30:44PM >> IT WASN'T --
3:30:49PM >> IT'S IRRELEVANT SO THANK YOU, SIR.
3:30:54PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:30:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ASKED THE QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO ASK.
3:31:00PM THE HOUSE HAS NOT BEEN INSPECTED YET, OH, WILL BE INSPECTED.
3:31:04PM AND THEN THE SECOND THING, AND SORRY IF I MISSED THIS, DID
3:31:10PM THE APPLICANT COME HERE VOLUNTARILY, OR DID THEY GET A CODE
3:31:14PM VIOLATION AND THEN PASS FOR THE VARIANCE?
3:31:19PM AND ARE WE ALLOWED TO CONSIDER THAT?
3:31:22PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MS. NMADU CAN ANSWER THAT
3:31:26PM QUESTION.
3:31:27PM >>JAYNE NMADU: THERE ARE TWO OPEN CODE VIOLATIONS.
3:31:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
3:31:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO THE VARIANCE QUARTERBACK CAME AFTER THE
3:31:35PM CODE VIOLATION?
3:31:36PM >>JAYNE NMADU: YES.
3:31:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY, THANK YOU.
3:31:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
3:31:44PM AGAIN, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:31:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO YOU SAID THE ACTUAL OWNERS ONLY SPEAKS
3:31:56PM SPANISH, CORRECT?
3:31:57PM >> YES.
3:32:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE DO HAVE INTERPRETERS.
3:32:05PM MR. MANISCALCO, WE HAVE INTERPRETERS, DON'T WE?
3:32:08PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICIAL.

3:32:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: INTERPRETERS ARE PROVIDED, CORRECT?
3:32:16PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: YES.
3:32:17PM BUT I BELIEVE THIS GENTLEMAN REPRESENTED THE PROPERTY OWNER
3:32:20PM AT THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
3:32:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OH, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO GET.
3:32:23PM SO HE WASN'T REPRESENTED AT THE VRB.
3:32:28PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: YES, SIR.
3:32:38PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
3:32:40PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
3:32:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO ONE REGISTERED.
3:32:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
3:32:49PM >> NATURE REBUTTAL?
3:32:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OR CLOSING COMMENTS?
3:32:59PM ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY?
3:33:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY CLOSING COMMENTS, SIR?
3:33:03PM >> NO.
3:33:08PM ASKING THE PEOPLE CALLED ME AND ASKED ME, SO I EXPLAINED TO
3:33:13PM HIM, OH, NO PROBLEM.
3:33:15PM AND ONLY ONE PERSON, HE SAID IT'S OKAY, NO PROBLEM.
3:33:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
3:33:28PM >> SECOND.
3:33:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:33:31PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:33:33PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
3:33:36PM COUNCILMAN.

3:33:43PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:33:45PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
3:33:47PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:33:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HAVING HEARD THIS AND WHAT THE
3:33:51PM GENTLEMAN HAS SAID, CONSIDERING A COUPLE OF FACTORS.
3:33:56PM ONE, WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS SITUATION IN THE CITY OF
3:34:00PM TAMPA, BUT IT DOES NOT MAKE THIS OKAY.
3:34:04PM SECOND, CONSIDERING THE FAMILY IS HERE FROM CUBA, I KNOW
3:34:11PM PERSONALLY, BECAUSE MY FAMILY, SOME OF MY FAMILY, MY MOTHER
3:34:16PM LEFT CUBA AND CAME HERE.
3:34:19PM THEY ARE NOT WORKING, HE SAID.
3:34:21PM SO CONSIDERING THE HOUSING CRISIS WE HAVE, THE COST OF RENT,
3:34:25PM THE COST OF REAL ESTATE, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE NOT WORKING
3:34:27PM RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW THEIR RESIDENCE SITUATION, BUT I
3:34:31PM WOULD MAKE A MOTION CONSIDERING THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN BUILT,
3:34:37PM AND THERE WAS NOBODY HERE AGAINST IT, REGARDING WHAT THE
3:34:40PM GENTLEMAN SAID THAT ONLY ONE PERSON RESPONDED AND THEY
3:34:42PM RESPONDED, WE DIDN'T HAVE BEEN ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC, I
3:34:47PM DON'T RECALL ANY E-MAILS AGAINST THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
3:34:49PM A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW
3:34:51PM BOARD AND GRANT THE VARIANCE REQUESTED.
3:35:02PM >> SECOND.
3:35:04PM >> DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
3:35:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CITED MY REASONS FOR IT.
3:35:07PM AND I WILL JUST STICK WITH THAT.

3:35:09PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
3:35:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IN THE PACKET THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US BY
3:35:26PM MS. PETTIS-MACKLE AND WHICH YOU CITE TO ON HER SAMPLE
3:35:29PM MOTIONS, THAT IS THE APPLICATION OF THE VARIANCE -- WHAT I
3:35:33PM AM SAYING TO YOU IS, IF YOU ALSO NOTICE ON HER MOTIONS, IT
3:35:38PM ALSO SAYS THAT YOU SHOULD STATE ANY FACTS THAT YOU FEEL ARE
3:35:43PM APPROPRIATE, AND AGAIN, AND THIS GOES TO NOT THIS HEARING,
3:35:47PM ALTHOUGH BUT EVERY HEARING, YOU SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE IN FRONT
3:35:50PM OF YOU WHAT THE CRITERIA IS SO WHEN YOU DO MAKE THE MOTIONS
3:35:54PM YOU APPLY IT TO THE CRITERIA.
3:35:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND I WILL CLARIFY THAT.
3:35:57PM IN MY MOTION TO OVERTURN THE VRB'S DECISION AND APPROVE THE
3:36:01PM VARIANCE REQUEST, TO BE REDUCE THE SITE YARD SET BACK FROM 7
3:36:05PM FEET TO 3 FEET IN VRB 22-24 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4917
3:36:11PM NORTH ARRAWANA AVENUE BECAUSE THE PETITION DOES MEET THE
3:36:15PM HARDSHIP CRITERIA AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT I MENTIONED IN
3:36:17PM WITH REGARD TO THE HOUSING CRISIS, HOUSING AVAILABILITY,
3:36:20PM COST OF RENT AND REAL ESTATE, AND THE FACT THAT THIS HAS
3:36:25PM ALREADY BEEN BUILT, AND THIS IS SEPARATE BUT OUT OF
3:36:29PM COMPASSION, CONSIDERING THAT IT IS A FAMILY HERE, WHERE
3:36:33PM WOULD THEY GO, IS MY QUESTION.
3:36:37PM THEY ARE NOT WORKING.
3:36:38PM WHETHER THEY ARE WORKING OR NOT, HOUSING IS NOT AN EASY
3:36:41PM SITUATION RIGHT NOW.
3:36:42PM THEREFORE, THAT IS MY MOTION.

3:36:42PM >> COUNCILMAN VIERA, ARE YOU STILL SECONDING THAT?
3:36:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
3:36:52PM I WILL DISCUSS THAT ACTUALLY.
3:36:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND WE WILL DO THAT.
3:36:55PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO MADE A MOTION.
3:36:59PM COUNCILMAN VIERA SECONDED IT.
3:37:01PM ANY DISCUSSION?
3:37:02PM I AM GOING TO GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FIRST.
3:37:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHILE I DO APPRECIATE THE FACTORS, I WILL
3:37:07PM RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THE ACTUAL
3:37:10PM HARDSHIPS THAT ARE LISTED.
3:37:12PM THIS IS NOT UNIQUE AND SINGULAR WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPERTY
3:37:15PM BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABOUT FAMILY.
3:37:16PM THIS IS ABOUT PROPERTY.
3:37:18PM AND WHILE I REALLY FEEL FOR THE FAMILY, WE CANNOT MAKE
3:37:25PM DECISIONS AND ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON HOW WE FEEL ABOUT PEOPLE.
3:37:28PM WE HAVE TO MAKE -- A VARIANCE REVIEW IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT
3:37:31PM THE LAND, AND WHAT'S DIFFERENT IN PARTICULAR ABOUT THIS
3:37:35PM LAND, THERE IS NOTHING UNIQUE AND SINGULAR.
3:37:38PM I ASKED IF THERE WAS A TREE.
3:37:39PM I ASKED IF THERE WERE OTHER IRONS: THERE IS NOTHING
3:37:43PM PARTICULAR ABOUT THIS LAND THAT MAKES THIS AN ACCEPTABLE --
3:37:49PM TO OVERTURN.
3:37:50PM SO I NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS.
3:37:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

3:37:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
3:37:55PM JUST A QUESTION FOR LEGAL TO CLEAR THE RECORD.
3:37:59PM I DON'T THINK WE CAN CONSIDER NATIONAL ORIGIN, IMMIGRATION
3:38:04PM STATUS OR JOB STATUS IN THIS, CORRECT?
3:38:07PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S' OFFICE.
3:38:11PM 27-08 CODE SECTION 27-08 DOES NOT CREW THAT THAT AS A
3:38:16PM FACTOR, CRITERIAS IN THE CODE.
3:38:18PM >> I THINK SOMEONE LIKE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID WE HAVE TO
3:38:22PM BE CONSISTENT.
3:38:28PM THERE ARE A BUNCH OF THESE BEING BUILT ALL OVER THE CITY AND
3:38:30PM WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT, AND OUTSIDE OF THESE HEARINGS WE
3:38:35PM HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOME SOLUTION FOR THEM.
3:38:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:38:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS ONE OF THESE HARD ONES BECAUSE YOU
3:38:43PM WANT TO FEEL COMPASSION.
3:38:45PM MY COLLEAGUE IS RIGHT, WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS.
3:38:48PM A FAMILY HERE OR POSSIBLY COMING.
3:38:50PM BUT THE REAL PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT THE HARDSHIP, I LOOK FOR
3:38:59PM THE ACTUAL OWNER TO BE HERE WITH HIS REPRESENTATIVE, TO GIVE
3:39:03PM ME MORE EXPLANATION OF THE HARDSHIP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT
3:39:06PM ABOUT SOME OTHER THINGS IN REFERENCE TO THE PROPERTY.
3:39:10PM WHY IT WAS BUILT, WHY IT HAPPENED.
3:39:12PM AND THAT'S WHY I ASK THE QUESTIONS, MR. MANISCALCO, AND SHE
3:39:18PM SAID THE REPRESENTATIVE WAS SPEAKING TO THE VRB, AND WHY WE
3:39:22PM ARE COMING HERE TO A HEARING TO ASK FOR PERMISSION NOW, BUT

3:39:29PM I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL OWNER HERE SO I CAN ASK SOME
3:39:34PM PERTINENT QUESTIONS.
3:39:36PM SO I'M SYMPATHETIC.
3:39:40PM I CAN'T GO ALONG, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE BODY HERE TO ASK
3:39:44PM THE QUESTION I NEED TO BE SYMPATHETIC SO I CAN'T SUPPORT IT
3:39:49PM AT THIS TIME.
3:39:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:39:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
3:39:52PM AND IT'S FUNNY WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, I WROTE DOWN
3:39:58PM CUBA WITH AN X ON IT AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO DIDN'T
3:40:01PM MEAN THAT, BUT NATIONAL ORIGIN, ET CETERA, HAS NO RELEVANCY
3:40:05PM IN MY DECISION, ET CETERA, NOR IN ANYBODY ELSE'S, BUT I AM
3:40:09PM GLAD THAT WAS MENTIONED.
3:40:09PM THIS IS ONE OF THOSE 50-51, 50.1.
3:40:16PM I THINK IT'S VERY GRAY.
3:40:18PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MAKES A LOT OF VERY FINE POINTS, AND SHE
3:40:22PM ALWAYS DOES A GREAT JOB ON HER TIME ON COUNCIL ON BRINGING
3:40:25PM OUT A LOT OF THE ISSUES FROM YOUR TIME ON VRB.
3:40:32PM YOU WERE VRB, CORRECT?
3:40:33PM AND IT SHOWS OBVIOUSLY.
3:40:35PM AND I SALUTE THAT.
3:40:37PM FOR ME, THOUGH, I LOOK AT THIS 51-49 AS SOMETHING WRITE
3:40:43PM THINK A LEVEL OF PRACTICAL MERCY IS INVOLVED HERE FOR ME.
3:40:48PM AND WHATNOT.
3:40:49PM AND THAT'S WHY I LOOK AT IT.

3:40:51PM I THINK SOME PRACTICAL MERCY IS INVOLVED FOR THIS.
3:40:54PM BUT A LOT OF GOOD POINTS BUT I THINK IT TAKES IT OVER THE
3:40:57PM EDGE FOR MERCY, IN MY OPINION.
3:40:59PM THANK YOU.
3:40:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
3:41:03PM I HAVE JUST A QUESTION FOR LEGAL.
3:41:05PM WE HAVE SIX UP HERE.
3:41:09PM WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE A SPLIT DECISION?
3:41:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.
3:41:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET'S SEE WHERE IT GOES.
3:41:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AS A FOREMAN MEMBER OF THE VRB THESE CASES
3:41:27PM ARE, SOMEBODY BUILDS SOMETHING, HOWEVER, IF WE HAVE 10%, IF
3:41:34PM WE HAVE 10%, THAT'S FINE.
3:41:36PM BUT HOW SOMEONE COULD BUILD A BLOCK CONSTRUCTION AND NOT GET
3:41:42PM NOTICES.
3:41:48PM I'M SORRY.
3:41:48PM ANY GREAT MASON.
3:41:56PM BUT, SURE, WE HAVE COMPASSION.
3:41:58PM BUT IF WE KEEP LETTING THIS TYPE OF THING HAPPEN OVER AND
3:42:02PM OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WHICH IT HAS, FROM MY YEARS ON
3:42:08PM VRB, IT HAS, IT DOES.
3:42:11PM THEN WHY DO WE HAVE DESIGN STANDARDS AT ALL?
3:42:16PM THIS COULD HAVE GONE TO PLANNING, WHICH IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN,
3:42:21PM PERMITTING, AND IF IT WASN'T ACCEPTED THERE, THEN IT COULD
3:42:25PM HAVE GONE TO VRB.

3:42:27PM I TRULY FEEL FOR THE FAMILY.
3:42:28PM I UNDERSTAND.
3:42:29PM BUT AT ONE POINT DO WE STOP AND SAY, NO?
3:42:35PM IF THIS WERE A MULTIFAMILY DWELLING WITH 400 UNITS, WE WOULD
3:42:41PM KNOW THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME PEOPLE.
3:42:46PM NO, SORRY, IT'S TWO INCHES OVER, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
3:42:51PM WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
3:42:53PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:42:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
3:43:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
3:43:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
3:43:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
3:43:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
3:43:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
3:43:09PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH CARLSON, GUDES, HURTAK AND
3:43:12PM CITRO VOTING NO.
3:43:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE NEED ANOTHER MOTION.
3:43:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO AFFIRM THE VRB'S DECISION TO DENY
3:43:28PM THE VARIANCE REQUESTED TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM
3:43:31PM 7-FOOT TO 3-FOOT IN VRB 22-24 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
3:43:35PM 4917 ARRAWANA AVENUE BECAUSE THE PETITION DOES NOT MEET THE
3:43:40PM HARDSHIP CRITERIA IN CITY OF TAMPA CODE SECTION 27-80,
3:43:45PM SPECIFICALLY THAT NO HARDSHIPS WERE PRESENTED THAT ARE MORE
3:43:53PM UNIQUE AND SINGULAR WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPERTY.
3:43:55PM >> SECOND.

3:43:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
3:44:01PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:44:03PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:44:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
3:44:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:44:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
3:44:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
3:44:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
3:44:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
3:44:13PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA AND MANISCALCO
3:44:16PM VOTING NO.
3:44:17PM MIRANDA ABSTAINING.
3:44:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE RECORD, HE FILED THE APPROPRIATE
3:44:30PM PAPERWORK FOR THE ABSTENTION, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
3:44:35PM >>THE CLERK: YES.
3:44:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
3:44:37PM INFORMATION REPORTS.
3:44:37PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:44:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION AND COUNCILMAN
3:44:45PM MIRANDA MISSED IT, BUT WE HAVE THESE CASES COME UP ALL THE
3:44:49PM TIME.
3:44:50PM I DON'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE HAD A LONGER DISCUSSION
3:44:54PM ABOUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT THESE.
3:44:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD I JUST STOP FOR A MINUTE?
3:45:01PM JUST BE CAUTIOUS OF WHAT YOU SAY.

3:45:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AND SAY
3:45:10PM IS THAT JANUARY 26th COUNCIL WORKSHOP, WE HAD A
3:45:16PM DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT UNPERMITTED STRUCTURES
3:45:21PM THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
3:45:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
3:45:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED
3:45:29PM BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:45:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:45:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE SECOND ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
3:45:36PM MOTION FOR THE JANUARY 26th WORKSHOP TO HAVE A
3:45:39PM DISCUSSION ON THE PROTOCOL AND COMMUNICATION WITH COUNCIL
3:45:46PM DURING AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.
3:45:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY CARLSON, SECONDED
3:45:55PM BY MANISCALCO.
3:45:56PM HOW ARE WE LOOKING ON THAT DATE WORKSHOP?
3:45:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAD TWO AND I JUST ADDED.
3:46:02PM THIS WILL BE THE FOURTH ONE.
3:46:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST CHECKING.
3:46:05PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:46:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE LAST THING, THIS MORNING WE WERE
3:46:10PM TALKING ABOUT LAST WEEK, AND THE HEAD OF COMMUNICATIONS SENT
3:46:14PM A MEMO OUT, LONG MEMO, AND I AM NOT ALLOWED TO E-MAIL YOU
3:46:18PM ALL BACK SO I WILL JUST SAY THERE WERE TWO BIG COMMENTS.
3:46:25PM ONE WAS ABOUT THE NOTICE FOR EVACUATION ON THAT MONDAY.
3:46:31PM THE POINT I WAS MAKING ON THAT NOTICE OF EVACUATION IS THAT

3:46:37PM I DIDN'T HEAR FROM THE CITY, AND THAT GETS TO -- THE
3:46:41PM COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND CITY COUNCIL.
3:46:43PM MY DISTRICT WAS BEING VACATED, AND I PERSONALLY WAS BEING
3:46:48PM EVACUATED, AND I HEARD IT FROM SOMEONE IN THE COUNTY, THIS
3:46:51PM IS BEFORE THE OFFICIAL MESSAGE WENT OUT, AND MY POINT IS NOT
3:46:55PM ABOUT HOW FAST THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT SENT OUT, THEY
3:46:57PM SAID THEY SENT IT OUT WITHIN A FEW MINUTES OF THE TIME THE
3:47:01PM COUNTY DECIDED IT, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD SOME KIND OF
3:47:04PM COMMUNICATION EARLIER IN THE MORNING THAT WAS COMING.
3:47:06PM THAT'S MY DISTRICT.
3:47:07PM I HAD LOTS OF PEOPLE ASKING ME WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND SURE
3:47:11PM IT WAS NOT OFFICIALLY NOTICED YET, BUT PEOPLE HAD KIDS IN
3:47:14PM SCHOOL, SOME OF THEM ARE THINKING ABOUT EVACUATING, THEY
3:47:18PM DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, AND IT TURNS OUT THEY ARE NOT JUST
3:47:23PM EVACUATED THAT TIME BUT THEY HAD SOME TIME TO EVACUATE.
3:47:26PM SO MY POINT IS NOT ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT, IT'S
3:47:28PM ABOUT WE NEED A PROTOCOL, AND THAT WAS MY LAST MOTION, WE
3:47:31PM NEED A PROTOCOL TO ENFORCE CITY COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S
3:47:35PM IN THAT CITY COUNCIL'S MEMBER'S DISTRICT AND CERTAINLY THE
3:47:37PM CITY-WIDE ONES AS WELL.
3:47:39PM SO THAT JUST CLEARS UP THAT.
3:47:41PM THE SECOND THING WAS JUST ABOUT IF COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL,
3:47:44PM AND -- SORRY, THE COMMUNICATION TONE AND CONTENT, LIKE I
3:47:50PM THINK COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK MENTIONED, I WAS RETWEETING WHAT
3:47:54PM THE CITY TWEETED AND I WAS REPOSTING ON FACEBOOK WHAT THE

3:47:58PM CITY POSTED.
3:47:59PM SO YES, WHAT THEY DID WAS VERY HELPFUL, AND THE
3:48:01PM COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT SENT A WHOLE LIST OF ALL THE THINGS
3:48:04PM THAT THEY DID, OR A SUMMARY OF IT WHICH LOOKS LIKE IT WAS A
3:48:07PM LOT.
3:48:07PM MY POINT IS, IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY TIME, GO TO SEPTEMBER
3:48:12PM 29th AND LOOK AT JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, I LOOKED AT A BUNCH
3:48:18PM OF CITIES BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING
3:48:21PM ON.
3:48:22PM AGAIN, I WAS NOT GETTING ANY INFORMATION FROM THE
3:48:24PM ADMINISTRATION SO I HAD TO LOOK AT WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON
3:48:26PM TWITTER.
3:48:27PM AND LOOK AT ST. PETERSBURG.
3:48:28PM THEIR FIRST TWEET ON THAT MORNING WAS 1:40 IN THE MORNING.
3:48:31PM THE SECOND TWEET WAS 5:40.
3:48:34PM BY THE TIME PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP THAT MORNING TRYING TO
3:48:36PM FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO, THE INFORMATION THEY NEEDED ABOUT
3:48:39PM WHAT TO DO WAS ALREADY THERE.
3:48:41PM MOST OF THE INFORMATION FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA HIT AROUND
3:48:43PM 10:00.
3:48:44PM SOME OF IT HIT AROUND 9 SOMETHING.
3:48:46PM SOME HIT AROUND NOON.
3:48:47PM BUT ALSO LOOK AT THE CONTENT AND THE TONE OF IT.
3:48:51PM IT'S PART OF THE STYLISTIC VIDEOS VERSUS BIG SHEETS, BUT THE
3:48:57PM POINT IS THAT IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT, WHAT ST. PETERSBURG

3:48:59PM WAS DOING WAS PROVIDING INFORMATION TO ITS CONSTITUENTS SO
3:49:03PM THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND WHAT THEY NEEDED TO
3:49:05PM DO.
3:49:05PM AND TAMPA DID SOME OF THAT, BUT I THINK OTHER CITIES GOT
3:49:09PM INFORMATION OUT QUICKER.
3:49:10PM AS A RESULT WE GOT A LOT OF CALLS BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T
3:49:12PM KNOW, WHAT DO I DO?
3:49:16PM SO I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT WE ALL LOOK AT THAT PROCESS,
3:49:20PM AND NOW THAT THIS TEAM HAS BEEN THROUGH IT, SET IT UP AS A
3:49:24PM PLAN.
3:49:24PM ALL OF THAT IS IN THE CAN.
3:49:27PM I WOULDN'T EXPECT ANYBODY TO GET UP AT 5:40 IN THE MORNING
3:49:30PM AFTER WORKING 24 HOURS BUT YOU CAN PROGRAM TWITTER TO POST
3:49:33PM SOMETHING AT 5:40 IN THE MORNING OR WHATEVER.
3:49:35PM AND THE LAST THING I WILL SAY, I MENTIONED EARLIER THIS
3:49:38PM MORNING, DESPITE THE FACT THEY DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER AND
3:49:41PM THEY MIGHT RUN AGAINST EACH OTHER, THE PRESIDENT AND
3:49:44PM GOVERNOR GOT TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT ON THIS, AND AN EMERGENCY
3:49:47PM IS NOT A TIME TO PLAY POLITICS. IT'S A TIME TO COME
3:49:48PM TOGETHER.
3:49:49PM AND I HAVE BEEN ASKING OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THE
3:49:51PM ADMINISTRATION WORK WITH ME AND WORK WITH COUNCIL INSTEAD OF
3:49:56PM BEING DEFENSIVE ABOUT FEEDBACK, CALL ME AND LET'S FIGURE OUT
3:50:00PM HOW TO WORK TOGETHER.
3:50:02PM THIS CITY NEEDS US TO WORK TOGETHER, ESPECIALLY DURING

3:50:05PM EMERGENCIES.
3:50:05PM AND I WOULD ASK THE ADMINISTRATION AGAIN, LET'S FIGURE OUT
3:50:09PM HOW TO WORK TOGETHER.
3:50:10PM IT DIDN'T WORK WELL LAST WEEK.
3:50:12PM HAD WE HAD THE CATASTROPHIC EVENT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN BIG
3:50:15PM TROUBLE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCE TO COMMUNICATE
3:50:17PM THE WAY WE DO AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER TO DO IT.
3:50:21PM THANK YOU.
3:50:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:50:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:50:25PM A COUPLE REALLY QUICK, IF I MAY.
3:50:26PM FOR OCTOBER 11th, I WANT TO GIVE A COMMENDATION TO
3:50:31PM STEPP'S TOWING. WE OFTEN SEE --.
3:50:32PM DON'T WE HAVE COMMENDATION THAT DAY?
3:50:36PM STEPPS TOWING FOR ALL THE WORK THEY DO FOR OUR FIRST
3:50:39PM RESPONDERS AND VETERANS.
3:50:40PM >>THE CLERK: WE DON'T HAVE.
3:50:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN IS OUR NEXT COMMENDATION?
3:50:54PM IF I MAY THEN MAKE IT FOR NOVEMBER 8th, AND IF YOU ARE
3:50:57PM WATCHING MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THERE'S NOTHING ON OCTOBER
3:51:03PM 11th.
3:51:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE A QUESTION. IS TOWING GOING TO GIVE
3:51:10PM A LITTLE TOKEN OF APPRECIATION TO TOWING?
3:51:14PM THEY ARE USUALLY GIVING TO ATU, POLICE DEPARTMENT.
3:51:22PM THEY GIVE A LIMOUSINE RIDE.

3:51:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, YEAH, I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
3:51:26PM YEAH, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW BUT WE'LL SEE.
3:51:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:51:34PM SECONDED BY CARLSON.
3:51:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:51:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: REALLY FAST, IF I MAY, VISIT TAMPA BAY TO
3:51:43PM GIVE THEM A COMMENDATION FOR THEIR ANNUAL EVENT NEXT
3:51:47PM THURSDAY.
3:51:51PM I'M WRITING IT UP.
3:51:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW MANY COMMENDATIONS DO YOU HAVE?
3:51:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S OFF PREMISES. IF IT WAS ON PREMISES I
3:52:02PM WOULD HAVE SAID.
3:52:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY CHAIRMAN CITRO.
3:52:07PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:52:08PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:52:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY TO RATIFY, I SENT YOU ALL A BREAST
3:52:13PM CANCER RESOLUTION, I WANT THAT AS A COMPANION TO COUNCILMAN
3:52:18PM GUDES' THOUGHTFUL COMMENDATION.
3:52:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:52:23PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:52:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THEN LASTLY, I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE IN
3:52:27PM DISCUSSIONS, I WANTED THIS TO COME BACK ON NOVEMBER 17th
3:52:31PM OF THIS YEAR, NUMBER ONE, TALKING ABOUT YOU CAN CALL IT A
3:52:39PM VOLUNTEER CORPS, TAMPA COURT.
3:52:41PM WHEN I WAS OUT AT THE SANDBAG LOCATION WITH COUNCILMAN

3:52:47PM MANISCALCO, THERE WAS MOSTLY ONLY CITY WORKERS THERE, AND I
3:52:51PM THOUGHT TO MYSELF, MAN, THERE WOULD BE SO MANY VOLUNTEERS
3:52:54PM WHO WOULD LOVE TO ROLL UP THEIR SLEEVES AND GO OUT THERE AND
3:52:57PM HELP OUT WITH THAT, AND WE HAVE CITY WORKERS WHO WORK NINE,
3:53:01PM TEN, ELEVEN HOURS, ET CETERA.
3:53:03PM AND IF YOU GO TO YOUR AVERAGE ROTARY CLUB, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY
3:53:06PM WOULD LOVE TO HELP.
3:53:07PM THEY WOULD LOVE TO HELP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
3:53:10PM SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO LOOK AT CREATING
3:53:14PM YOU COULD CALL IT A TAMPA CORPS, A VOLUNTEER CORP, NOTHING
3:53:20PM THAT'S GOING TO GET THE CITY SUED, NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO
3:53:23PM DEAL WITH INJURIES, ET CETERA.
3:53:25PM IT'S JUST FOR THINGS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, SANDBAGS AND THERE
3:53:28PM COULD BE OTHER ISSUES THAT COME UP.
3:53:29PM NUMBER TWO IS A FRIEND OF MINE WHO ASKED NOT TO BE CITED BUT
3:53:34PM SHE'S A GOOD LADY, GOD BLESS HER, TALKED ABOUT SHELTERS WITH
3:53:38PM THE COUNTY AND HOW MANY OF THEM WERE NOT PET FRIENDLY
3:53:42PM ACCESSIBLE, AND HOW THAT PRECLUDES MANY PEOPLE FOR WHOM PETS
3:53:48PM ARE PART OF THE FAMILY FROM GOING AND SEEKING SHELTER DURING
3:53:50PM THE STORM.
3:53:51PM SO TO HAVE THE CITY SPEAK WITH THE COUNTY, COULD BE
3:53:58PM CORRESPONDENCE, HOWEVER THEY WANT TO DO THAT, ON HAVING MORE
3:54:00PM PET FRIENDLY SHELTERS AND POTENTIALLY HAVING ALL SHELTERS TO
3:54:04PM BE PET FRIENDLY POTENTIALLY, AND INCLUDING NOVEMBER 17th
3:54:10PM MAYBE BEGINNING TO HAVE A CAMPAIGN BY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE

3:54:14PM HUMANE SOCIETY, ET CETERA, FOR THE MONTHS LEADING UP TO
3:54:17PM STORM SEASON, SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE NECESSITY TO
3:54:20PM HAVE VACCINATIONS, ET CETERA, FOR PET FRIENDLY SHELTERS.
3:54:25PM THAT'S MY MOTION FOR NOVEMBER 17th.
3:54:26PM >> SECOND.
3:54:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY --
3:54:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN ONE MOTION?
3:54:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
3:54:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY
3:54:38PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:54:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:54:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
3:54:47PM FIRST, YESTERDAY I TOOK A TOUR OF THE WASTE TO ENERGY PLANT
3:54:52PM WHICH I KNOW ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OR MANY HAVE TAKEN A
3:54:55PM TOUR, SCHEDULED TO TAKE TOURS.
3:54:57PM LET ME TELL YOU WHAT, I HAVE NEVER TAKEN THE TOUR OF THE
3:55:00PM ENTIRE FACILITY.
3:55:02PM WHAT AN IMPRESSIVE FACILITY.
3:55:09PM I DON'T WANT TO ASK, BUT IT'S AMAZING, THE TRASH THAT END UP
3:55:15PM AT THE CURB AND YOU DON'T SEE IT AGAIN.
3:55:17PM THERE'S A LOT TO IT.
3:55:18PM AND IF YOU LOOK, IT'S NOT STACKS THAT ARE SPEWING COAL, IT'S
3:55:26PM NOT LIKE OTHER PLACES AROUND THE AREA, BUT AGAIN TAKING THE
3:55:30PM TOUR, LIKE I SAID, I KNOW MOST OF YOU HAVEN'T BUT YOU HAVE
3:55:34PM TO GO.

3:55:34PM VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE.
3:55:36PM NUMBER TWO, I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS.
3:55:41PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, I MET WITH THE GRANDSON OF A GENTLEMAN --
3:55:50PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, 1984, I NEVER MET HIM, BUT WAS A WELL
3:55:56PM RESPECTED COMMUNITY LEADER AND BUSINESS OWNER IN THE CITY OF
3:55:59PM TAMPA, THE ORIGINAL CENTRO AVENUE, MOVING HIS BUSINESS DOWN
3:56:05PM MAIN STREET, ON MAIN STREET, THERE'S A SECTION THAT IS NAMED
3:56:08PM FOR MOSES WHITE, ON THE RIVERWALK THERE'S A BUS, AND I HAVE
3:56:12PM BEEN FRIENDS WITH HIS GRANDSON FOR A WHILE, AND IT TURNED
3:56:17PM INTO A FOUR HOUR CONVERSATION, AND HE SHOWED ME PICTURES
3:56:20PM THAT -- IT'S NOT THAT THEY ARE RELEASING THEM YET BUT THE
3:56:26PM MUSIC HISTORY, PEOPLE THAT VISITED TAMPA THAT I NEVER KNEW
3:56:29PM BEFORE, MARVIN GAY, JAMES BROWN, THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE,
3:56:33PM RAY CHARLES IS ANOTHER ONE.
3:56:36PM THE POINT THAT I AM MAKING IS, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, COUNCILMAN
3:56:40PM GUDES WAS ON THE PLANNING FOR FAIROAKS, CORRECT? KID MASON,
3:56:47PM BUT FAIROAKS WAS A HUGE PROJECT, AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE
3:56:52PM SEVERAL YEARS AGO I MADE A MOTION, AND MANY ON THIS COUNCIL
3:56:56PM SUPPORTED RENAMING LAUREL STREET BRIDGE, IT USED TO BE
3:57:00PM FORTUNE STREET BRIDGE, NOW IT'S KNOWN AS THE FORTUNE TAYLOR
3:57:03PM BRIDGE.
3:57:05PM VERY RESPECTED AFRICAN AMERICAN, FORMER SLAVE, OWNER OF LIKE
3:57:10PM 30 ACRES IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA, NEVER ABLE TO RESTORE THAT NAME.
3:57:16PM FAIROAKS, THERE'S A LAKE NEXT CALLED THE -- BUT FAIROAKS
3:57:21PM DOESN'T HAVE A NAME.

3:57:23PM I MENTIONED MOSES WHITE BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL MOSES WHITE
3:57:26PM HOUSE IS OVER ON 36th RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
3:57:33PM BUT I WAS WONDERING, SINCE FAIROAKS --
3:57:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FAIROAKS IS NOT THE COMMUNITY. FAIROAKS
3:57:43PM IS A PARK.
3:57:44PM BUT THE REASON I MADE A MOTION, THE LONGEST CITY EMPLOYEE
3:57:51PM FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS WHO RAN MOST OF THE EAST SIDE PARKS, AND
3:57:56PM THAT WHOLE AREA BE NAMED.
3:58:01PM NOW IF YOU ARE GOING TO LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING, SEPARATE
3:58:06PM BUILDINGS. THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE.
3:58:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, AND
3:58:10PM I AM GOING TO PUT A "TO BE DETERMINED" DATE BECAUSE I WAS
3:58:14PM THINKING THIS THE LAST FEW DAYS, THAT WE NAME SOMETHING
3:58:16PM THERE FOR MOSES WHITE, WHETHER IT'S A COMMUNITY MEETING
3:58:19PM ROOM, OR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
3:58:23PM AGAIN, THIS HOUSE IS BASICALLY AROUND THE CORNER THERE.
3:58:27PM IT'S NOT HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED BUT IT IS SOMETHING TO
3:58:31PM HONOR AN INDIVIDUAL THAT DID SO MUCH FOR THIS COMMUNITY, AND
3:58:34PM WAS VERY WELL RESPECTED, AND I BELIEVE PROMOTING MORE
3:58:38PM AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY, WHICH HASN'T BEEN TO THE CALIBER
3:58:42PM OF YBOR CITY, AND CENTRAL AVENUE IS GONE, DEMOLISHED, AND I
3:58:47PM WANT TO PRESERVE AND KEEP THOSE NAMES ALIVE.
3:58:50PM THAT'S A MOTION WITHOUT A DATE, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD
3:58:53PM CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE.
3:58:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

3:58:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED
3:59:00PM BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:59:01PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:59:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT.
3:59:04PM THANK YOU.
3:59:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE GOOD NEWS TODAY AFTER THIS LONG DAY,
3:59:09PM AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY IT PUBLICLY.
3:59:12PM NELSON CONSTRUCTION IS CURRENTLY PAYING FLORIDA AVENUE. IF
3:59:19PM EVERYTHING GOES AS PLANNED, FLORIDA AVENUE SHOULD BE OPENED
3:59:21PM BEFORE MORNING RUSH HOUR TOMORROW.
3:59:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND AND SECOND AND SECOND.
3:59:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST MAKING AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
3:59:30PM AND I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW, BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO
3:59:34PM STAY ON SCHEDULE EVEN WITH THE HURRICANE LAST WEEK, AND WE
3:59:37PM HAD SOME DRAMA, BUT GIVE CREDIT WHERE IT'S DUE.
3:59:41PM SO THANKS TO THEM, EVERYBODY IN THAT AREA -- ACTUALLY
3:59:47PM EVERYBODY, BECAUSE NOW DON'T HAVE TO TAKE 275 INSTEAD.
3:59:52PM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
3:59:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:59:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO MS.
4:00:01PM SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES. SHE HAD A BIRTHDAY AND WE WERE NOT
4:00:01PM HERE.
4:00:04PM I WANT TO SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
4:00:08PM SECONDLY, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A COMMENDATION TO THE CLASS
4:00:12PM OF 1982 OF THE TAMPA BAY TECH FOR THEIR 40TH CLASS REUNION

4:00:17PM CELEBRATION THIS FRIDAY, OCTOBER 7TH.
4:00:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
4:00:21PM AND THIS REMINDS ME OF SOMETHING ELSE.
4:00:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM.
4:00:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:00:37PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:00:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:00:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE LAST ONE, COMMENDATION TO NANCY
4:00:47PM HERNANDEZ FOR DEDICATION TO THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR DOMESTIC
4:00:52PM AWARENESS AND A FOOD PANTRY, ON NOVEMBER 8th.
4:01:04PM YOU ARE GOING TO BE VERY INSPIRED.
4:01:08PM >> SECOND.
4:01:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD STORY.
4:01:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:01:15PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:01:16PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:01:21PM YES, SIR?
4:01:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON NOVEMBER 8th WOULD BE THE FOURTH
4:01:24PM COMMENDATION AFTER THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH, ROBIN --
4:01:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S ON A TUESDAY, RIGHT?
4:01:36PM THOSE ARE COMMENDATION DAYS.
4:01:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT IT?
4:01:50PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:01:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A COUPLE.
4:01:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE A COUPLE.

4:01:58PM TOM BRANT WHO I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH YEARS AGO,
4:02:01PM SERVED ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FROM OCTOBER 1978 TO NOVEMBER
4:02:05PM 1988.
4:02:07PM HE IS MOVING FROM TAMPA TO TENNESSEE TO BE WITH HIS FAMILY
4:02:10PM ON OCTOBER 19, 2022, AND INASMUCH AS WE DO NOT HAVE A
4:02:16PM REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING PRIOR TO HIS DEPARTURE, HE
4:02:19PM CAN'T MAKE IT HERE UNTIL THE TIME HE LEAVES, I WOULD LIKE TO
4:02:23PM MAKE THIS PRESENTATION WITH YOUR PERMISSION ON THE EVENING
4:02:27PM OF OCTOBER 13, 2022.
4:02:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A
4:02:31PM SECOND BY CHAIRMAN CITRO.
4:02:32PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:02:33PM OPPOSED?
4:02:34PM ALL RIGHT.
4:02:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE SECOND ONE IS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
4:02:37PM A MOTION TO RECOGNIZE THE FINE GROUP OF WATER DEPARTMENT
4:02:40PM TECHNICIANS WHO NOT ONLY SUCCESSFULLY RECERTIFIED THEIR
4:02:44PM SKILLS BUT ALSO TOOK PART IN THE BACKFLOW PREVENTION
4:02:48PM ASSEMBLY TESTER RECERTIFICATION PROCESS AND PROVED UP TO
4:02:53PM THEIR TASKS.
4:02:54PM THESE EMPLOYEES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING OUR WATER
4:02:57PM SYSTEM FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE PUBLIC THAT WE SERVE.
4:03:00PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION, AND AGAIN THIS IS ON
4:03:03PM THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 3rd, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WATERWISE DAY
4:03:06PM THAT WE HAVE THE COMMENDATION.

4:03:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
4:03:14PM >> MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:03:16PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:03:19PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:03:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:03:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING.
4:03:29PM COUNCILMAN GUDES INSPIRED ME.
4:03:30PM YOU MADE A COMMENDATION TO YOUR CLASS, THE 40th
4:03:35PM ANNIVERSARY?
4:03:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT WASN'T MY CLASS.
4:03:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE MY 20th REUNION NEXT
4:03:44PM SATURDAY.
4:03:47PM WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE --
4:03:49PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAKE A MOTION FOR IT.
4:03:52PM TAMPA CATHOLIC, RIGHT?
4:03:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
4:03:56PM PRESENT THE TAMPA CATHOLIC CLASS OF 2022 FOR THEIR 20th
4:04:00PM HIGH SCHOOL REUNION, 2002, PRESENTED OFF-SITE ON SATURDAY.
4:04:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:04:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:04:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE LAST THING REGARDING THE WASTE TO
4:04:13PM ENERGY FACILITY.
4:04:14PM ALL YOUR NAMES ARE ON THE PLAQUE.
4:04:18PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, THIS GOES BACK TO 2020.
4:04:21PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S IS ON TWO FROM THE DICK GRECO

4:04:25PM ADMINISTRATION.
4:04:26PM AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND EVERYBODY VISIT IT AND TAKE A TOUR.
4:04:31PM THANK YOU.
4:04:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
4:04:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A REQUEST OF COUNCIL.
4:04:38PM YOU ADDED A LOT OF THINGS TO THE OCTOBER 20th STAFF
4:04:41PM REPORTS, AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO MS. ZELMAN
4:04:44PM ABOUT THIS SUBJECT, AND SCHEDULED TO REPORT ON THE ORDINANCE
4:04:49PM TO PROTECT ELECTED OFFICIALS, CHAPTER 119, ON NOVEMBER
4:04:54PM 1st YOU HAVE THAT SPECIAL CALLED MEETING ON THE CHARTER,
4:04:57PM ON NOVEMBER 3rd YOU HAVE A REPORT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY
4:04:59PM ON HER OPINION -- EXCUSE ME, PREVIOUS CITY ATTORNEY'S
4:05:05PM OPINION THAT COUNCILMEMBER CARLSON HAD REFERENCED.
4:05:09PM SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY
4:05:13PM ASK YOU TO CONTINUE THE OCTOBER 20 STAFF REPORT TO THE
4:05:16PM NOVEMBER 17th MEETING.
4:05:17PM >> SO MOVED.
4:05:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
4:05:22PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:05:23PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:05:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND I WILL WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
4:05:28PM ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
4:05:30PM I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HER AND I WAS NOT HERE THAT
4:05:37PM DAY.
4:05:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

4:05:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
4:05:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN
4:05:41PM MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:05:43PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:05:45PM WE ARE ADJOURNED TILL 5:01.
4:05:58PM [MEETING ADJOURNED]
4:06:01PM

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