TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 6, 2022
9:00 A.M.
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09:01:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY
COUNCIL MEETING TODAY, OCTOBER 6, 2020 -- EXCUSE ME, 2022.
09:02:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT 2020.
09:02:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO GET IT OUT OF MY
MIND.
WHO HAS THE INVOCATION TODAY?
IS THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES?
COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS THE INVOCATION?
09:02:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
ONE SECOND.
09:02:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU HAVE INVOCATION?
09:03:11AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I I HAVE THE DISTINCT PLEASURE OF
INTRODUCING WHAT WE CALL MOTHER IN THE CHURCH.
MOTHER HAYES.
IF YOU WILL COME TO THE PODIUM FOR US, PLEASE.
MOTHER HAYES IS A MEMBER OF BROWN MEMORIAL CHURCH IN CHRIST.
CURRENTLY SERVING AS A SUNDAY SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT, MEMBER
OF THE MOTHERS BOARD, EVANGELIST, AND PRESIDENT OF THE HOME
MISSION.
SHE HAS BEEN APPOINTED THE DISTRICT MISSIONARY OF THE
GREATER SOUTH COAST DISTRICT.
SERVES AS A PINELLAS SUNDAY SCHOOL FIELD REPRESENTATIVE.
GREATER LOVE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE.
FIELD REPRESENTATIVE AND WAS APPOINTED INDUCTION SUNDAY
SCHOOL FIELD REPRESENTATIVE.
A BIG POST.
MARRIED TO EDDIE HAYES AND THE PROUD PARENTS OF THREE
CHILDREN.
HER SON BERNARD WORKS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
WELCOME MOTHER HAYES.
09:04:14AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:04:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PLEASE RISE FOR THE FOR THE PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE.
09:04:22AM >> FATHER, WE LOVE YOU, WE PRAISE YOU RIGHT NOW GOD.
THANK YOU FOR STANDING HERE AND GIVE YOU GLORY.
THANK YOU FOR EVERY COUNCILMEN AND WOMAN IN THE BUILDING.
AND THANK YOU THAT YOU WILL GIVE THE GLORY.
BLESS YOU THAT WE KEPT BODIES.
CAME THROUGH A HURRICANE AND WE ARE STILL FAMILY.
THE PRAYING FOR THE BEREAVED FAMILY OF THE OFFICER, GOD.
AND EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF TODAY YOU ASK
THAT WE HAVE IT DONE.
ALL THE GLORY AND THE PRAISE AND THE HONOR IN YOUR PRECIOUS
SON IN JESUS'S NAME, THANK GOD AND AMEN.
09:04:57AM >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE OF THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE
FOR ALL.
09:05:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
PLEASE BE SEATED.
ROLL CALL PLEASE.
09:05:19AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
09:05:23AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
09:05:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
09:05:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
09:05:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.
09:05:31AM >>CLERK:
YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:05:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. SHELBY.
09:05:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE
COUNCIL.
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
TODAY'S MEETING OCTOBER 6, 2022 BEING HELD HERE AT TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL LIVE WITH A FULL COUNCIL PRESENT.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND IN PERSON HERE IN CITY
COUNCIL CHAMBERS 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD OR VIRTUALLY
PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS THE
FLORIDA STATUTE AND RULES AND COMMUNICATION MEDIA
TECHNOLOGY.
TO SPEAK REMOTELY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE USE
OF CMT, THE PUBLIC SHOULD NOTE THAT CMT REQUIRES
PREREGISTRATION AND AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CITY'S WEB SITE
AT WWW.TAMPA.GOV/PUBLICCOMMENT.
DISCUSSIONS ARE ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AND THE
AGENDA AND THE NOTICE OF TODAY'S MEETING.
A REMINDER, COUNCIL, THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO USE EQUIPMENT
THAT HAS VIDEO AND AUDIO FOR THE PURPOSES OF QUASI-JUDICIAL
HEARINGS AND THAT, AGAIN, IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE
INSTRUCTIONS.
I ASK THAT CITY COUNCIL WAIVE ITS RULES TO ALLOW THE
CONTINUED USE OF CMT AT THIS TIME.
09:06:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO MOVED.
09:06:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
09:06:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
I KNOW OF ONE ITEM, NUMBER 4, I AM GOING TO ASK TO BE
CONTINUED UNTIL OCTOBER 20.
09:07:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CONTINUE UNTIL OCTOBER 20.
09:07:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:07:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST SO YOU KNOW IT IS SET AS
A PRESENTATION, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNCIL WILL
PROBABLY BE ASKED TO TAKE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AT THAT
TIME.
SO JUST SO COUNCIL IS AWARE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO ALLOW PUBLIC
COMMENT FOR THAT BEFORE YOU TAKE ACTION.
09:07:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WILL BE SENDING OUT A MEMO TO INFORM ALL
COUNCILMEMBERS.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
OKAY.
GO THROUGH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A REPORT BY, I BELIEVE, CHIEF OF STAFF
FOR -- WE WILL MAKE THAT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6.
IT IS GOING TO BE THE -- A REPORT FROM OUR HURRICANE THAT
JUST WENT BY US, HURRICANE IAN.
OKAY.
STAFF REPORTS, 7, YES?
8?
YES?
THANK YOU.
WE ARE GOING QUICKLY HERE.
MISS WELLS WILL BE PRESENTING ON 9.
09:08:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM REQUESTING THAT THE PUBLIC BE ALLOWED TO
COMMENT ON ITEM 9 AFTER THE STAFF REPORTS.
09:08:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
09:08:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE.
NUMBER 10.
AND I BELIEVE THAT IS ONLY GOING TO BE JUST FOR
INFORMATIONAL.
NO?
09:08:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOING TO BE CONTINUED.
09:08:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
CONTINUED UNTIL DECEMBER 1.
09:08:55AM >>CLERK:
THAT'S CORRECT.
09:08:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 CONTINUED UNTIL
NOVEMBER 1.
09:09:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
09:09:05AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HAVE IT AS THE NEXT UPDATE SCHEDULED RATHER
THAN A CONTINUATION.
HAVE THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED ONE FOR DECEMBER 1.
09:09:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
09:09:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
THANK YOU.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11.
09:09:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DON'T NEED -- I PROBABLY WILL MAKE SOME
REMARKS BUT I DON'T NEED ANYBODY FOR THAT.
09:09:31AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT OPEN FOR
DISCUSSION, BUT I DON'T NEED STAFF.
09:09:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU WANT TO SAY
SOMETHING?
09:09:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
09:09:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12 -- 12, 13 AND 15.
12 MOVED TO OCTOBER 20.
09:09:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
09:09:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13 WILL BE CONTINUED UNTIL OCTOBER 20.
09:09:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
09:10:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14.
09:10:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CONTINUE TO NOVEMBER 3.
09:10:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15 TO BE MOVED TO OCTOBER 20.
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16.
09:10:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I DON'T NEED ANYBODY HERE FOR THAT.
I WAS BRIEFED BY PHONE.
09:10:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
17 --
09:10:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO STAFF ON THAT ONE?
THANK YOU, SIR.
09:10:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
17.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
09:10:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T -- NO, I DON'T NEED STAFF FOR THAT.
09:10:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18.
OKAY, KEEP THAT THERE.
AND OUR ADDENDUM TO OUR FINAL AGENDA ITEMS.
51.
09:11:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
51?
09:11:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
09:11:25AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.
09:11:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A NOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT 12, 13 AND 15.
NUMBER 11?
09:11:43AM >> YES, SIR.
I DON'T -- FOR NUMBER 11 WITH MacDONALD, CLIFFORD MacDONALD,
I DON'T NEED ANYBODY THERE FOR THAT.
09:11:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OKAY, 27.
CERTAIN CHANGES.
WE HAVE GOT -- CORRECTION TO THE TITLE LISTED.
48.
AS WITH 49.
OKAY.
WE GOT THOSE TWO DONE.
AND 68.
TITLE OF THAT RESOLUTION IS ON THE AGENDA BELOW.
JUST A CHANGE IN THAT RESOLUTION.
09:12:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PARDON?
88?
AND -- SORRY, AND 27 IS A SUBSTITUTION, THAT'S CORRECT?
09:12:32AM >> 27 IS A CORRECTION.
09:12:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A CORRECTION.
09:12:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OKAY.
OH, TO THE TITLE ON THE AGENDA.
09:12:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:12:45AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE TALKED.THIS BEFORE BUT -- AS I UNDERSTAND
THE DEADLINE FOR PUTTING THINGS ON THE AGENDA IS, I THINK,
FRIDAY OF THE WEEK BEFORE.
AND LAST NIGHT AT 10:00, WE STILL HAD ITEMS LIKE NUMBER 51
THAT DID NOT HAVE BACK-UP.
I REQUESTED SOME BACK-UP FOR IT THAT WAS NOT SENT TO US OR
PUT ONLINE FOR A SEVEN PLUS MILLION DOLLAR ITEM -- I AM NOT
DISCUSSING IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK WE NEED BACK-UP FOR
THESE THINGS.
AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHERS AS WELL THAT WE NEED
BACK-UP FOR.
SOME -- THERE WAS ONE ITEM YESTERDAY WE RECEIVED A BACK-UP
BUT I THINK IT WAS -- ITEM NUMBER 11.
WE RECEIVED A BACK-UP BUT NOT ON SIRE YET.
BUT MY POINT IS A GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE THING, OUT OF
RESPECT FOR THE PUBLIC IN PARTICULAR, WE NEED TO HAVE -- I
THINK WE NEED TO SET A HARD RULE IF THE BACK-UP AND
DOCUMENTS ARE NOT BY A CERTAIN TIME, IT HAS TO BE CONTINUED.
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE DOCUMENTS ADDED THURSDAY MORNING.
09:13:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.
09:13:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. ROGERO.
09:13:55AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU, DENNIS ROGERO.
I CAN SPEAK TO ITEM 51, AS PART OF A PRESENTATION AND WE
PULLED IT FROM CONSENT.
THE BACK-UP REQUEST WAS MADE FOLLOWING THE ITEM AND DURING
THE WEEKLY BRIEFS FOR CITY COUNCIL.
ON THE OTHER ITEMS, AGAIN, I WILL REMIND COUNCIL THIS AGENDA
IS TAKING PLACE FOLLOWING A MAJOR EMERGENCY EVENT THAT YOU
WILL ABOUT TO GET BRIEFED ON IT.
SO SOME TIME FRAMES WILL NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE
FOLLOWING A MAJOR HURRICANE.
09:14:29AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS WEEK, EVERYONE WILL UNDERSTAND BUT IT
HAPPENS EVERY WEEK.
THE PUBLIC IS CONTACTING ME AND MY COLLEAGUES -- NOT JUST
TALKING ABOUT YOUR AREA.
09:14:39AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
UNDERSTOOD.
09:14:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CONSTANTLY THINGS THAT ARE MISSING.
HUNDREDS OF ITEMS IN A WEEK AND WE HAVE TO READ THE AGENDA
MULTIPLE TIMES AND CHANGES CONSTANTLY AND WE NEVER KNOW WHAT
THE BACK-UPS ARE.
MARTY CAN TELL US WHAT THE RULES ALREADY ARE, BUT IT SEEMS
TO ME IF THE AGENDA ITEMS THIS DUE ON FRIDAY, IF THE BACK-UP
ITEMS ARE NOT IN BY NOON ON MONDAY, WE WILL AUTOMATICALLY
CONTINUE THE ITEMS.
DO WE HAVE ANY RULE ON THAT?
09:15:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ACTUALLY WE DO AND I AM LOOKING AT THEM.
ONE OF THE RULES THAT ELECTRONIC MEDIA WILL BE RECEIVED AT
LEAST 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE AND ELECTRONIC MUST BE DELIVERED
TO CCTV 48 HOURS PRIOR TO BROADCAST.
RULE 5-D.
THERE IS A RULE -- AND I BELIEVE IT IS ACTUALLY -- BY
RECOLLECTION IS IT IS THE THURSDAY BEFORE.
THAT CERTAINLY HAS --
09:15:35AM >>BILL CARLSON:
A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND THE PUBLIC CAN'T HAVE TRANSPARENCY IF THEY CAN'T HAVE
THE DOCUMENT AS THE BACK-UPS AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
ITEMS ARE ABOUT.
COVER SHEET AND PLACE HOLDER.
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT A PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT AND HOLD UP
ANYTHING TODAY, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC
HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK AT THE BACK-UP DOCUMENTS -- AND
WE HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT THEM -- WE SHOULD NOT BE GETTING
PRESENTED WITH SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC DIDN'T HAVE HAVE A
CHANCE TO READ.
09:16:06AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
MR. CHAIRMAN --
09:16:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WAIT, PLEASE.
ARE YOU FINISH READING THE RULES OF PROCEDURES?
09:16:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
LET ME FIND IT IN THE MEANTIME --
09:16:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU WERE START IT AND YOU GOT CUT OFF.
I WANTED YOU TO FINISH ON THAT.
WHILE YOU ARE LOOKING --
09:16:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ACTUALLY, HERE IS WHAT IT SAYS, RULE 7-A,
ALL PETITIONS, COMMUNICATIONS, STAFF REPORTS, RESOLUTIONS,
ORDINANCES AND OTHER MATTERS INTENDED FOR THE CONSIDERATION
OF THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE FILED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY
CLERK ON OR BEFORE 2 P.M. ON THE THURSDAY PRIOR TO THE
MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL.
THE CITY CLERK SHALL ASSIGN -- THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ASSIGN
RESOLUTIONS, ORDINANCES AND OTHER MATTERS TO THE MOST
APPROPRIATE PLACEMENT ON THE AGENDA TAKING INTO
CONSIDERATION THE PLACEMENT ON THE AGENDA.
ORDINANCES UNDER FEES ARE PLACED UNDER STAFF REPORT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL ALSO REMIND COUNCIL THAT WITH REGARD TO
THE CONTINUANCES MADE TO 12, 13 AND 15 THAT WILL BE
DISCUSSED NEXT WEEK, AN E-MAIL FROM THE CHIEF OF STAFF SAYS
IT IS GOING TO BE PART OF A COMPREHENSIVE PROCESS HOW THESE
SORT OF THINGS ARE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND MIGHT BE AN
APPROPRIATE TIME TO BRING IT UP AS WELL AT THAT POINT.
CERTAINLY THE ISSUE OF HAVING THE ABILITY FOR YOU TO IT BE
ABLE TO SEE THE MATERIAL IN ADVANCE GIVES YOU THE TIME TO BE
ABLE TO FORMULATE QUESTIONS THAT MAKE YOUR TIME WITH STAFF
AT THE MEETING THAT MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE TO YOU.
09:17:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:17:44AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE HE READ IT IN ITS ENTIRETY.
I THINK THE ISSUE IS MR. CARLSON SAY WE GET IT LATE AND WE
HAVE A LOT TO RESEARCH BEFORE A THURSDAY MORNING COUNCIL
MEETING INSTEAD OF GETTING IT WEDNESDAY AND LATE NIGHT.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE TIME FRAME IS BECAUSE MORE TIME.
NOT TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE GENERAL AGENDA.
IF WE KNOW IT IS A BIG HEALTHY ITEM, SHOULD BE A COUPLE OF
WEEKS IN ADVANCE TO REVIEW THE MATERIALS.
MIGHT BE SOMETHING DURING THAT PERIOD THAT WE NEED TO LOOK
IF THE TIME NEEDS TO BE MOVED BACK SO STAFF CAN HAVE
ADEQUATE TIME TO PREPARE FOR THIS COUNCIL TO GET US
MATERIALS AND WE CAN UNDERSTAND AND MAKE A BASE DECISION FOR
THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
09:18:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
FOR INSTANCE, A POWERPOINT THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU.
IF YOU HAVE THAT POWERPOINT IN ADVANCE, YOU WILL AT LEAST
HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF DECISION POINTS YOU WILL HAVE
TO MAKE RATHER THAN DO IT HEARING THE PRESENTATION FOR THE
FIRST TIME AT A WORKSHOP AND GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK
QUESTIONS OF STAFF PRIOR TO A WORKSHOP TO MAYBE EXPEDITE THE
WORKSHOP ITSELF.
SO THANK YOU.
09:18:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:18:56AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CAN GET AN
AGREEMENT ON A GENERAL STATEMENT ON A NEW POLICY.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK STAFF TO -- TO
AUTOMATICALLY REQUEST A CONTINUANCE IF THEY ARE NOT READY TO
UPLOAD THE DOCUMENTS BY THE DEADLINE ON -- THAT WAS JUST --
THAT WAS CITED IN THE RULES -- WAS IT THURSDAY OR FRIDAY?
09:19:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE RULE -- THIS RULE HAS NOT BEEN VERY
STRICTLY ENFORCED FOR THURSDAY, BUT NORMALLY --
09:19:26AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT DOES THE DEADLINE SAY?
09:19:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IN YOUR CURRENT RULES 2 P.M., ON THE
THURSDAY PRIOR TO THE WEEK OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:19:35AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAKE A MOTION AND A GENERAL STATEMENT THAT
STAFF WILL AUTOMATICALLY ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE IF UNABLE TO
UPLOAD BY THURSDAY AT 2:00 FOLLOWING CITY COUNCIL'S RULES.
AND THAT DOCUMENTS WOULD BE ADDED AS AN EXEMPTION WITH
CONSENT OF COUNSEL IN AGENDA SETTING.
09:19:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I DON'T MEAN TO BELABOR THIS BECAUSE I DON'T
WANT TO.
AND WE ARE HAVING A LONG AGENDA IN FRONT OF US AND HAVING A
DISCUSSION NOW AT THE BEGINNING WHEN WE COULD BE DOING THAT
LATER.
YOU DO HAVE A SECOND ON YOUR MOTION.
AND I AM GOING TO TELL YOU THAT I AM GOING TO VOTE NO ON
THIS.
BECAUSE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE IT CAN'T BE PREPARED
THAT QUICKLY THAT WE HAVE TIME SENSITIVE THINGS THAT NEED TO
BE DONE IMMEDIATELY.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:20:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF -- IF YOU MIGHT CONSIDER CHANGING THAT TO
A DISCUSSION ON OCTOBER 20 WHEN -- WHEN WE ARE GOING TO BE
DISCUSSING THESE OTHER ISSUES ABOUT CLEANING UP THE AGENDA
AND MAKING THINGS A LITTLE CLEARER.
THIS -- THAT IS WHEN MY MOTION FOR THE BUDGET ITEMS TO
INCLUDE A ONE-PAGE REPORT IN SIRE AND, LIKE, TIGHTENING
THINGS UP IF WE CAN MOVE IT TO THAT DAY TO DISCUSS.
BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE TIME TO THINK OF HOW I --
BECAUSE THINK THURSDAY 2 P.M. IS A LITTLE TOO EARLY, BUT I
AGREE WITH YOU, MONDAY AT NOON.
09:21:18AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIR.
09:21:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:21:22AM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO THE POINT WE WILL HAVE TODAY.
A PRESENTATION OF $7 MILLION AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THE BACK-UP
AND THE PUBLIC HAVEN'T SEEN THE BACK-UP.
AN EXAMPLE OF MAYBE ONE OF 20.
TO DO THE WORK WE NEED TO DO, WE NEED TO READ THE DOCUMENTS
IN ADVANCE.
I WILL WITHDRAW MY OTHER MOTION AND MAKE A MOTION TO PUT
SPECIFICALLY ON THE AGENDA OCTOBER 20, THE DISCUSSION ON
MEETING DEADLINES TO PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY OF INFORMATION TO
THE PUBLIC PRIOR TO OUR MEETINGS.
09:21:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.
09:21:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNSELOR SHELBY.
09:22:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
JUST AS A REMINDER, COUNCIL, WITH ITEMS THAT ARE TIME
SENSITIVE, THE ADMINISTRATION BRINGS TO YOUR ATTENTION
THINGS THAT REQUIRE A WALK-ON, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC
HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE THERE, AND
CERTAINLY HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY OF COUNCIL KNOWING IN
ADVANCE SO PREPARE TO ASK QUESTION AND TRANSPARENCY AND THE
SUNSHINE LAW -- THE SPIRIT OF THE SUNSHINE LAW, JUST SO YOU
KNOW, ABSENT, EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES, A MOTION TO CONTINUE IS
ALWAYS IN ORDER.
REGARDING WHAT COUNCIL FEELS IT NEEDS TO KNOW BEFORE IT
MAKES ITS DECISION.
09:22:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:22:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU HEAR THE WORD WALK-ON.
WHAT IS THE EMERGENCY.
YOU HAVE ONE IN ONE DAY, NONE IN TWO WEEKS AND TEN IN ONE
DAY.
WHO IS GOING TO DETERMINE WHAT IS THE WALK-ON NECESSITY TO
HAVE OR NOT TO HAVE.
09:23:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. ROGERO.
09:23:11AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU.
WE WON'T SOLVE THIS TODAY, BUT SOME THAT THE COUNCIL MAY
CONSIDER IS THAT BACK-UP ITEMS IS SURFACED AFTER THE AGENDA
IS SUBMITTED AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL BRIEFS AND YOU MAY
DETERMINE THE TIME FRAMES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
THE AGENDA ITSELF HAS COME ON.
BUT QUESTIONS SURFACE FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND ITEMS.
THANK YOU.
09:23:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. MASSEY OR MISS TRAVIS, DID YOU WANT TO
SAY ANYTHING?
09:23:40AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I THINK TO MR. ROGERO'S POINT, A LOT OF THE
LAST MINUTE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE ARE IN RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS
OR REQUEST FROM COUNCIL FOR SPECIFIC RESOLUTIONS OR ITEMS
YOU WANT TO SEE ON A FAIRLY QUICK BASIS.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SURFACED AS WELL, BUT WE CAN
TALK ABOUT THIS IN MORE DETAILS ON THE 20th.
09:24:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS TRAVIS, LAST WORD.
09:24:04AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
SEVEN DAYS ,MOST OF US WERE SLEEPING ON COTS IN THE EOC
AND BRING AN AGENDA AND TURN IT AROUND AND WORKING THROUGH
SIRE WHILE DEALING WITH HURRICANE IAN AND PREPARING FOR
THAT, I AM ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FROM A STAFFING
DIDN'T NOT JUST ADMINISTRATOR BUT THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND ALL
THE STAFF THAT WORK BEHIND US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THESE
ITEMS TO YOU IN A THOUGHTFUL WAY.
AND ALSO WHEN YOU MAKE REQUESTS OF STAFF AND MOTIONS AT A
PREVIOUS MEETING FOR US TO RESPOND TO IT AT THE VERY NEXT
MEETING.
THOSE KIND OF ITEMS CAUSE FOR US SUBMITTING THINGS AT THE
LAST MINUTE.
BUT I WANT TO ENSURE YOU THAT WE ARE ALL OPERATING ON A
TRANSPARENT BASIS.
ALMOST SO MUCH SO THAT A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS COME FROM US
AS BEING AS TRANSPARENT AS YOU CAN.
I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE.
09:24:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. SHELBY.
09:25:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WILL ALSO STATE AND ECHO THAT COUNCIL AND
THE CLERK HAD THIS AGREEMENT AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, NO
ONE WEEK MOTIONS BECAUSE MISS LUCAS, YOU WOULD AGREE, THE
TURN-AROUND TIME FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS
DIFFICULT.
IN DEFENSE OF THE ADMINISTRATION, THE MEMOS YOU ARE GETTING
TO REDUCE THE STAFF REPORTS IS GETTING MORE EXTENSIVE AND
PROVIDING MORE INFORMATION AND MUCH MORE EFFORT TO PREPARE
THAT KIND OF INFORMATION IN ADVANCE.
AND COUNCIL SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF HOW IT WILL TAKE TO HAVE
STAFF TURN IT AROUND BEFORE THEY BRING IT BACK TO YOU IN A
TIMELY FASHION TO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED.
09:25:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT.
THE STAFF REPORTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE JUST THAT, STAFF
REPORTS, FIVE MINUTES.
IF WE WANT MORE INFORMATION OR DISCUSSION, TURN THOSE INTO
WORKSHOPS.
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:25:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I CAN AGREE WITH SOME OF THAT.
I CAN AGREE WITH SOME OF THAT.
EVERYTHING IS NOT A WORKSHOP ITEM.
EVERYTHING IS NOT A WORKSHOP ITEM.
SOME THINGS CAN BE DISCUSSED AND OUT OF THE WAY INSTEAD OF
KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD, BUT I DO AGREE IF THERE ARE HOT,
HEAVY ITEMS OR STAFF KNOWS OF A HOT, HEAVY ITEM.
STAFF WILL TELL US THAT IS HOT, HEAVY ITEM AND DELAYED
BEFORE YOU PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
WHY PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA IF IT IS NOT READY OR DON'T
HAVE THE BACK-UP MATERIALS.
WHY PUT IT ON THERE?
HOLD BACK UNTIL YOU ARE READY.
DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES WE CAN DEAL WITH.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MATERIALS AND NOT READY AND YOU KNOW
THIS COUNCIL WILL ASK A BARRAGE OF QUESTIONS.
WHY PUT YOURSELF THROUGH THAT AND COUNCIL THROUGH THAT.
DO THE RIGHT THING AND WAIT UNTIL IT IS READY TO GO OR PUT
YOUR CONTINUANCE AND SAY WE ARE NOT READY TO GO.
09:26:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:26:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WITHER GOING INTO A LONG DISCUSSION.
PLEASE, MR. SHELBY AND THEN FINAL COMMENTS AND I WILL MOVE
FORWARD.
09:26:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY IS COUNCIL,
CERTAINLY THIS IS YOUR AGENDA.
THIS IS YOUR MEETING.
CERTAINLY THE ADMINISTRATION PLAYS A VERY INTEGRAL ROLE.
BUT MY POINT IS THIS.
I THINK IT IS BEST DISCUSSED NOT NOW BUT AT A LATER DATE AND
WE WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES BECAUSE I WILL BE
REVISING THE RULES OF PROCEDURES AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
09:27:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AS I HAVE FOUND, WE TEND TO ASK STAFF TO
COME BACK AND GIVE US A REPORT AND DO IT IN A WEEK OR TWO
WEEKS.
WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ON HOW MANY AGENDA ITEMS -- OCTOBER
20, 18 STAFF REPORTS.
WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AND ALLOW STAFF ENOUGH TIME TO PREPARE
THEIR REPORTS TO US SO THAT WE AND, OF COURSE, THE RESIDENTS
HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT IS NECESSARY.
09:27:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
09:27:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND THE ADDENDUM?
09:27:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND THE ADDENDUM.
09:27:58AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.
09:27:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
EXCELLENT.
MR. VIERA.
09:28:03AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
I APPRECIATE IT.
I HAVE WITH ME MY GOOD FRIEND MR. TRAVIS COY WHO IS HERE TO
SPEAK ON BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH BECAUSE OF HIS LATE
WIFE, THERESA JEAN-PIERRE COY.
AND MR. SULLIVAN, IF YOU CAN PUT SOME PICTURES UP THERE WE
HAD OF THERESA, SIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE
THIS WONDERFUL, BEAUTIFUL WOMAN WHO WAS TAKEN FROM US TOO
SOON.
TRAVIS WHO WILL BE SPEAKING IS AN ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY
HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
WAS ADMITTED TO THE FLORIDA BAR IN 2003.
PAST PRESIDENT OF GEORGE EDGECOMB BAR ASSOCIATION AND
HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL OF THE GEORGE EDGECOMB SCHOLARSHIP.
WENT TO FSU AND STETSON COLLEGE OF LAW AND WILL BE SPEAKING
OF HIS LATE WIFE, THERESA JEAN-PIERRE COY, THAT I KNOW
COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS KIND ENOUGH TO GIVE A COMMENDATION FOR
AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT VERY MUCH SO.
THERESA WAS A VERY GOOD WOMAN WHO I KNEW.
IN FACT I THOUGHT SO HIGHLY OF HER I REMEMBER SOME TIME AGO
I ASKED HER TO CONSIDER JOINING US ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
UNTIL I FOUND OUT SHE DIDN'T LIVE IN THE CITY.
THAT IS HOW MUCH I LOVED HER.
SO TRAVIS, COME ON UP, BUDDY.
09:29:36AM >> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO FAMILY AND FRIENDS THAT
ARE PRESENT WITH US, PHYSICALLY AND ALSO THAT ARE WATCHING
VIRTUALLY.
AND A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN GUDES, I APPRECIATE
THE COMMENDATION THAT YOU IT PRESENTED MUCH EARLIER THIS
YEAR.
AND ALSO A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR
ALLOWING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL AS IT
RELATES TO MY WIFE AND ALSO AS IT RELATES TO BREAST CANCER
AWARENESS.
THERESA SHOWED US DURING THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF HER LIFE
THAT CANCER DOESN'T DEFINE WHO YOU ARE.
CANCER IS WHAT SHE HAD, BUT IT WASN'T WHO SHE WAS.
SHE LIVED HER LIFE TO THE FULLEST WITHOUT REGRETS AND ALWAYS
FOUND OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE OTHERS.
THERESA CONTINUED TO ADVOCATE FOR THOSE WHO HAD NO VOICE.
SHE CONTINUED TO POUR HER TIME, HER ENERGY AND EXPERTISE
INTO OUR COMMUNITIES.
THERESA CONTINUED TO LOVE AND SUPPORT HER FAMILY, HER
FRIENDS, REMEMBER COLLEAGUES AND HER MENTEES.
SHE NEVER STOPPED LAUGHING.
SHE NEVER STOPPED SMILING.
AND SHE DEFINITELY DIDN'T STOP BEING SASSY.
EVEN IN HER PAIN, IN HER DISCOMFORT, SHE ALWAYS FOUND TIME
TO LIFT UP OTHERS, TO ENCOURAGE OTHERS.
SHE HAD A LEGITIMATE EXCUSE TO ESSENTIALLY GIVE UP ON LIFE
BUT INSTEAD THE FIGHTING SPIRIT IN HER AROSE TO THE OCCASION
TIME AFTER TIME.
SO WHEN YOU ASK WHAT DOES BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH MEAN
TO ME?
WHAT IS MEANT TO THERESA?
THE ANSWER IS TWOFOLD.
FIRST, IT MEANS TO KEEP FIGHTING AND TO FIGHT SOME MORE.
BECAUSE AS SOON AS YOU STOP LIVING, AS SOON AS YOU STOP
ENJOYING LIFE, THAT IS WHEN THIS HORRIBLE DISEASE HAS
ALREADY WON.
THEN THE OTHER PART OF THAT ANSWER IS SIMPLE.
IT IS A CALL TO ACTION.
DON'T GET ME WRONG, NOTHING WRONG WITH WEARING A PINK RIBBON
BUT WAY MORE TO BE DONE.
THERESA UNDERSTOOD THAT AND MADE A POINT TO EDUCATE AND
BRING AWARENESS TO THIS TERRIBLE DISEASE ANY TIME SHE HAD A
CHANCE.
AND AS COUNCILMAN VIERA JUST MENTIONED, I REMEMBER SHE WAS
IN FRONT OF YOU ALL LAST YEAR DISCUSSING THE DISPARITIES
AMONG BLACK WOMEN AND BREAST CANCER.
SHE LEFT A LEGACY OF SERVITUDE THAT I NOW FIND MYSELF
CARRYING.
I NEVER IMAGINE MANY YEARS THAT I WOULD BE A WIDOW AND A
SINGLE PARENT AT THE AGE OF 45 YEARS.
I NEVER IMAGINED LOSING MY BEST FRIEND AND THE LOVE OF MY
LIFE JUST AT THE AGE OF 41.
I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE TO TELL A FIVE-YEAR-OLD THAT
HIS MOTHER IS NO LONGER HERE.
I NEVER CONSIDERED HAVING TO TELL A FIVE-YEAR-OLD THAT THE
WOMAN WHO KISSED AND CUDDLED HIM AT NIGHT IS GONE.
SHE WON'T BE BE THERE FOR ANY GRADUATION.
SHE WON'T BE THERE FOR HIS WEDDING.
AND SHE WON'T EXPERIENCE WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE A
GRANDPARENT.
MY LIFE'S GOAL HAS NOW TURNED TO HELP PREVENT PEOPLE FROM
SUFFERING FROM SUCH A LOSS THAT WE HAVE.
THAT IS WHY I DEDICATED MY LIFE TO HELP PROMOTE AND FUND
BREAST CANCER RESEARCH.
GIVING TO BREAST CANCER RESEARCH GOES BEYOND FINDING A CURE.
IT PROVIDES SUPPORT TO THE CAREGIVERS WHO ARE OFTEN
OVERLOOKED.
THEY NEED EMOTIONAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL SUPPORT AS WELL.
IT PROVIDES FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR PATIENTS WHO CAN'T RETURN
TO WORK OR DON'T HAVE A DISABILITY POLICY.
IT SUPPORTS FUNDING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH
THE RACIAL DISPARITY.
AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN HAVE A 31% BREAST CANCER MORTALITY
RATE, THE HIGHEST OF ANY U.S. RACIAL OR ETHNIC GROUP.
THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE EXAMPLES OF THE IMPACT A
PERSON'S DOLLARS, A PERSON'S MONIES CAN HAVE ON THE
ERADICATION OF THIS DISEASE.
SO MY PRAYER THIS MONTH AND THE MONTHS TO FOLLOW IS THAT ONE
DAY MY SON, THADDEUS COY WILL LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE THIS
DISEASE THAT TOOK HIS MOTHER NO LONGER EXISTS.
BUT TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, WE MUST BE WILLING TO ACTUALLY TAKE
ACTION AND NOT SPEAK ABOUT THAT ACTION.
THANK YOU.
09:34:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
09:34:38AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
AND IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I NEGLECTED FIRST -- I WANTED TO
INTRODUCE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TO SUPPORT TRAVIS AND THE
LATER ROW IS A.
THEY INCLUDE SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ ACTING INDIVIDUALLY,
CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE, WE HAVE VIEWING THE INTERNET,
THERESA'S FATHER, ERNEST JEAN PIERRE AND HER
STEPFATHER ERNEST THOMAS AND.
ANYA K. FRANCIS AND SONJA HILL WHO ARE HERE.
I WANTED TO MENTION THOSE NAMES.
09:35:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:35:26AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.
I TRULY BELIEVE THAT.
WORDS MEAN A LOT.
AND I BELIEVE PEOPLE HAVE HEARD YOUR WORDS THIS MORNING.
WHEN I MADE THAT COMMENDATION, MY BESTIE, MY BEST FRIEND IN
THE WORLD CALLED ME AND SAID YOU BETTER DO SOMETHING.
NO MORE SUNDAY DINNER FOR YOU.
SO I HAD TO MAKE SURE MISS DEIDRE UNDERSTOOD BECAUSE I FELT
HER PAIN, BECAUSE SHE FELT THE PAIN.
I REMEMBER THE NIGHTS UP LATE WORKING ON THE LINE.
THE POWERFUL LINE.
NUMBER 33 OR 34.
I KNOW WHAT THAT LINE -- WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH AND I
KNEW WHAT THEY HAD.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, TUESDAY -- THEY HAD THEIR ANNIVERSARY
ON TUESDAY.
GOT THAT CALL.
I WANT TO SAY WE ARE WITH YOU.
WE STAND WITH YOU.
HER SISTERS MISS HER.
EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW IT IS TO BE IN A BOND WHEN YOU ARE IN
THE LATE NIGHTS AND DOING THAT WORK CROSSING THOSE BURNING
SANDS.
YOU MISS YOUR PEOPLE.
SO I SAY THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SHARE WITH US.
I SAY THANK YOU.
09:36:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:36:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR, FOR BEING HERE
AND HONORING HER MEMORY AND THE WORDS AND THE MESSAGE
THAT YOU SHARED WITH EVERYONE TODAY.
YOU SAID IT.
YOU HOPE THAT YOUR SON ONE DAY LIVES IN A WORLD WHERE THAT
WORD "CANCER" IS ERADICATED.
EFFECTS SO MANY PEOPLE.
I HAD A CALL FROM A FRIEND OF MINE WHOSE SPOUSE WANTS TO
VISIT ME AND SAY GOODBYE BECAUSE SHE IS IN HER LAST DAYS.
YESTERDAY, I TALKED TO MY FRIEND, JOE, WHOSE BROTHER HAS TWO
MONTHS TO LIVE AND HE IS 52, 53.
YESTERDAY, I SAW A FRIEND OF MINE WHO IS A NURSE -- I KNOWN
HER ALL MY LIFE, LITERALLY SINCE I WAS BORN.
SHE SAID I HAVE A ROUGH WEEK BECAUSE I WAS WITH A PATIENT 14
WITH OVARIAN CANCER THAT HAS METASTASIZED.
14 YEARS OLD.
AND IT IS EXHAUSTING WHEN IT IS ONE AFTER ANOTHER A AFTER
ANOTHER.
SO I -- I CAN'T FOLLOW WHAT YOU SAID TODAY BECAUSE THE WORDS
WERE SO POWERFUL.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND WE WILL ALWAYS HONOR YOUR WIFE
AND REMEMBER HER.
THANK YOU, SIR.
09:37:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:37:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, I SAW THE TEAR IN YOUR EYE
LIKE YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW.
AND I SHARE THAT TEAR.
I SHARE THAT TEAR BECAUSE MY WIFE PASSED AWAY IN DECEMBER
13, '09 FROM LUNG CANCER.
AND I KNOW, BROTHER, WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH.
THANK YOU.
09:38:15AM >> THANK YOU.
09:38:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:38:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I REALLY DO WANT TO APPRECIATE -- SAY THANK
YOU FOR COMING AND BRINGING THIS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT ISSUE
TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION AGAIN.
AND JUST TAKE THE TIME TO ALSO MENTION THAT NOT ONLY CAN WE
HELP MONETARILY AND THROUGH FUNDS, BUT IN REMINDING WOMEN
THAT BREAST SELF-EXAMS ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO ONE, JUST GOOGLE IT.
THERE IS A TON OF THINGS ONLINE
JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU KEEP YOUR MAMMOGRAM APPOINTMENTS.
THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
THEY ARE NOT FUN.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
BUT THEY ARE VERY CRITICAL AND TO TAKE TIME TO REMIND THOSE
IN THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE LISTENING JUST ANOTHER WAY TO
HELP.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS TODAY.
I AM SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.
09:39:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:39:19AM >>BILL CARLSON:
USUALLY AFTER SOMEONE SPEAKS WE JUMP TO THE
MICROPHONE AND SPEAK QUICKLY AND YOU SAW US HESITATE BECAUSE
WE FELT WHAT YOU SAID SO CLOSE.
AND YOUR WORDS WERE SO PERFECT AND IMPOSSIBLE TO FOLLOW YOU.
THANK YOU FOR HONORING THERESA AND TALKING OF THIS IMPORTANT
TOPIC.
PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT WE -- THAT WE HAVE THE INFORMATION WE
NEED TO MAKE SURE WE BROADCAST IT.
WE ALL HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS AND OTHERS.
WHATEVER WE CAN TO DO SUPPORT.
I DON'T THINK YOUR SON IS HERE TODAY, BUT IF -- NOW -- NOW
WE NEED THE VILLAGE TO HELP YOU RAISE HIM.
AND SO LET US KNOW IN -- PERSONALLY IN AS A GROUP WE CAN DO
SOMETHING TO HELP KEEP HIS MOTHER'S NAME ALIVE AND INSPIRE
HIM TO DO GREAT THINGS.
THANK YOU.
09:40:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SHE IS SMILING DOWN ON YOU RIGHT NOW.
OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU.
THANK YOU, BROTHER.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:40:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOOD MORNING MY COLLEAGUES ON THE TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL.
THIS IS MY FRIEND ROBIN BETHUNE.
WE MET NOT TOO LONG AGO BECAUSE WE WERE CONTACTED TO -- AS
YOU KNOW, CITY HALL WILL LIGHT UP IN DIFFERENT COLORS FOR
DIFFERENT REASONS AND DIFFERENT OCCASIONS AND THIS WAS TO
HAVE CITY HALL LIT UP AND OTHER STRUCTURES FOR METASTATIC
BREAST CANCER AWARENESS.
AND ROBIN IS A MOTHER TO ERIKA GRIFFITHS WHO PASSED AWAY
AFTER A LONG AND COURAGEOUS BATTLE.
SHE HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY TO RAISE FUNDS TO BRING AWARENESS
TO KEEP ERICA'S MEMORY AND SPIRIT ALIVE EVERY TIME WE SPOKE
HER NAME AND EVERY TIME HER MOTHER SPEAKS HER NAME, SHE IS
ALIVE AND CONTINUES TO INSPIRE MANY.
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL'S HONOR TO PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION TO
ROBIN BETHUNE, MOTHER OF ERICA GRIFFITHS, WHO FOUGHT
METASTATIC BREAST CANCER.
HER FIVE-YEAR JOURNEY AND DEVOTION AND ADVOCACY OF THIS
HORRIFIC DISEASE DID NOT GO UNNOTICED.
HIGHLIGHTED IN VISUAL AND PRINT MEDIA AS AN ADVOCATE FOR
FUNDING FOR MBC RESEARCH AND AS WELL BEING AN AVID
FUNDRAISER.
ERIKA WAS AND IS AN INSPIRATION FOR SO MANY.
FORCED TO DEAL WITH END OF LIFE PLANS AND LEAVING BEHIND A
DEVOTED HUSBAND AND FAMILY.
WE THANK HER MOTHER ROBIN FOR CONTINUING HER DAUGHTER'S
LEGACY IN THE NECESSARY AND COURAGEOUS AND NECESSARY FIGHT
TO ENSURE AWARENESS AND A FIGHT FOR A CURE FOR METASTATIC
BREAST CANCER.
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL'S PROFOUND PRIVILEGE TO PRESENT THIS
COMMENDATION ON IN SIXTH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2022.
[APPLAUSE]
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
09:42:54AM >> I AM NOT VERY GOOD AT SPEAKING, BUT I PROMISED MY
DAUGHTER I WOULD CONTINUE THE FIGHT FOR HER.
SHE WAS DIAGNOSED DE NOVO, WHICH MEANS RIGHT FROM THE
BEGINNING WITH METASTATIC BREAST CANCER WHICH MEANS IT HAS
ALREADY LEFT THE BREAST.
PEOPLE DON'T DIE OF BREAST CANCER.
THE PINK RIBBONS IS FOR AWARENESS.
YOU DIE WHEN IT LEAVES YOUR BREAST.
SHE WAS BREASTFEEDING.
IMAGINE GETTING THAT PHONE CALL THAT I GOT.
THEY DID THE MAMMOGRAM AND THE ULTRA SOUND.
THEY DID THE BIOPSIES AND FOUND OUT IT WAS IN HER LIVER AND
BONES.
SHE FOUGHT FOR ALMOST FIVE YEARS, DIFFERENT TREATMENTS,
CHEMOS, RADIATION.
IT SPREAD THROUGHOUT HER BODY BY THE END AND SHE LEFT BEHIND
A SIX-YEAR-OLD LITTLE GIRL.
SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO BRING ATTENTION TO RIGHT NOW IS THE
MONTH OF OCTOBER IS DEDICATED TO PINK RIBBONS AND ALMOST AN
SENSATIONALISM OF SAVE THE TA-TAs AND ALL THE OF
THAT WHICH IS NOT WHAT PEOPLE WHO TRULY FROM METASTATIC
CANCER IS THINKING ABOUT.
THEY ARE TRYING TO SAVE THEIR LIVES.
KEEP IN MIND, TOO, THAT MEN GET METASTATIC BREAST CANCER AS
WELL.
115 PEOPLE ARE DYING EVERY DAY FROM THIS DISEASE.
AND PEOPLE AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE WE ARE BUYING THE
PINK RIBBONS AND COMING TO FIND OUT THAT ONLY 5% OF THAT
MONEY GOES TO RESEARCH.
SO LIKE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WITH THERESA WHO PASSED
AWAY I WITH, WE NEED RESEARCH.
AS I HAVE BEEN SCREAMING FROM THE TOP OF A MOUNTAINTOP AS MY
DAUGHTER DIED AND DIDN'T THINK ANYBODY WAS LISTENING,
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND HIS ASSISTANT, LISA, DID.
AND WE LIT UP TAMPA LAST YEAR.
WE ARE GETTING READY TO LIGHT IT UP AGAIN.
WE ACTUALLY GOT THE SKYWAY THIS YEAR, BUT A TRANSFORMER
BLEW, SO APPARENTLY WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT ON TIME.
BUT THE IDEA AND THE MEANING BEHIND ALL OF THIS, AGAIN, IS
JUST TO REALIZE THAT WE NEED PEOPLE TO DONATE FOR RESEARCH.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR.
WHEN ERICA WAS GOING THROUGH HER TREATMENTS DURING THAT
TIME, TWO OR THREE DRUGS THAT CAME ABOUT THAT KEPT HER ALIVE
A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
I AM OVERWHELMED AND VERY, VERY GRATEFUL AND I KNOW MY
DAUGHTER IS WATCHING DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND I HOPE SHE IS
PROUD.
09:45:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALSO YOU HAD MENTIONED IT BUT OCTOBER
13, WE WILL LIGHT CITY HALL UP.
09:45:31AM >> WE ARE AND ALSO THE AIRPORT.
WE GOT THE AIRPORT TOO.
SO THANK YOU.
09:45:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AWARENESS IS SO IMPORTANT AND YOU BEING
HERE AND THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE YOU TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW,
YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT PINK RIBBONS,
EVEN THOUGH IT IS GOOD TO SHOW THE SUPPORT.
BUT IT IS THE LACK OF FUNDING.
THE LACK OF AWARENESS.
THE LACK OF PEOPLE GOING TO GET TESTED.
TO CATCH THESE -- CATCH THIS EARLY, IF POSSIBLE.
AND INCREASE THEIR -- THEIR RATIO FOR SUCCESS AND HEALING.
BUT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR BEING AN INSPIRATION.
09:46:06AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
09:46:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SURE.
[APPLAUSE]
09:46:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS SULING, DO WE HAVE FDOT ON THE LINE?
WE WILL NOW HAVE AN UPDATE FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION -- THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
09:46:33AM >>VIK BHIDE:
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE ED ALBRITON WITH THE FLORIDA
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
ED IS A FRIEND, FORMER COLLEAGUE, WE WORKED TOGETHER AT
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
ED IS GOING TO PRESENT ON SIGNALIZATION PROJECT AND A COUPLE
OF OTHER INITIATIVES BY FDOT, SPECIFICALLY AT 22nd AND THE
SELMON EXPRESSWAY.
THIS IS A HAZARD.
THIS IS -- THE SIGNALIZATION WILL IMPROVE SAFETY IN THE
AREA.
IT WILL ALSO IMPROVE ACCESS FOR ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT
IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE YBOR CITY AREA FROM A SAFETY AND
MOBILITY DIDN'T.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO ED.
ED, TAKE IT AWAY.
09:47:30AM >> THANKS, VIK.
SO I WILL GET RIGHT INTO THIS.
I DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME.
THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTO OF THE AREA WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED SOME
OF THE SORT OF TRIP GENERATION AREAS OF INTEREST THAT WE
FEEL ARE IMPORTANT TO MAKE THIS PROJECT IMPORTANT.
THE FIRST IS TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROJECT IS THE PORT OF
TAMPA.
WE HAVE SOME JOINT FUNDING FROM OUR PARTNERS TO BRING THIS
SIGNALIZATION.
ALSO TO THE WEST AND TO THE NORTH, BOTH IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA
AND YBOR CITY, BOTH OF THOSE BOTH RETAIL AND HIGH DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL FOOTPRINTS ARE EXPANDING AND THIS IS ALSO A GOOD
PROJECT TO MARRY WITH SOME OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS JUST A CLOSER VIEW OF THE INTERCHANGE ITSELF.
THE STAR IS REPRESENTING WHERE THE ACTUAL SIGNALIZATION IS
INSTALLED.
HERE WE HAVE A LOOK AT THE EAST AND WESTBOUND APPROACHES AS
THEY CURRENTLY EXIST.
THEY ARE BOTH STOP CONTROL.
SIGNAL MET AND CRASH HISTORY WARRANT INSTALLATION AND THESE
APPROACHES GAVE US A TOTAL OF 39 LEFT-TURN CRASHES, 22 WITH
POSSIBLE INJURIES AND ONE FATALITY.
HERE IS THE CURRENT NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND APPROACHES AND
THEY HAD A TOTAL OF 23 LEFT-TURN CRASHES AND 13 POSSIBLE
INJURIES.
THE STUDY YEARS BY THE WAY WERE 2014 TO 2019.
SOME OF THE PROJECT DETAILS AND ITEMS WE FEEL LIKE WE WILL
REALLY IMPROVE.
THERE IS CURRENTLY A SHARED USE PATH ON THE EAST SIDE OF
22nd STREET THAT WILL ADD A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING TO AND JOIN
INTO THAT.
THERE IS AT-GRADE CSX RAIL CROSSING TO THE SOUTH OF THE
INTERCHANGE AND THIS WILL BE INTEGRATED WITH THE SIGNAL.
THAT WILL BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT.
TRAFFIC MOVEMENT THROUGH THE AREA AS IT PERTAINS TO RAIL
CROSSINGS.
THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT TYPES OF MEDIAN TREATMENTS THROUGH
THIS SEGMENT AND WE WILL GET THAT CONSISTENTLY CLEANED UP
AND HOPEFULLY TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE AMBIGUITY THAT IS
CURRENTLY OUT THERE.
CURRENTLY NO PEDESTRIAN FEATURES AT ALL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF
THE INTERCHANGE AND OBVIOUSLY WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THAT
WITH THIS DESIGN.
CROSSWALKS, LIGHTING, ALL THAT.
A QUICK AND DIRTY RENDITION OF WHAT THE DESIGN IS GOING TO
LOOK LIKE.
SHOWS THE SPECIAL EMPHASIS CROSSWALKS.
LIGHTING GOING TO BE UPGRADED.
SHOWS AT-GRADE CROSSING AS WELL.
AND PROTECTED LEFT TURNS ON TO THE CROSSTOWN.
THE NORTH INTERCHANGE INTERSECTION.
YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE DESIGNED A CROSSING WHICH WE FEEL REALLY
IMPROVES THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY THROUGH THIS SEGMENT AND
VISIBILITY AND ALSO SEE WHERE WE HAVE JOINED THE HIGH
EMPHASIS OR SPECIAL EMPHASIS CROSSWALK TO THE PEDESTRIAN
PATH ON 22nd STREET ON THE EAST SIDE.
THE COUNTERMEASURES WE ARE DOING, THE PROTECTED LEFT TURNS,
PROTECTED PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS INCLUDING THE TWO STAGE.
AND BE FEEL THAT THE MODIFICATION OF THE MEDIAN TREATMENT
CURRENTLY OUT THERE LIKE I SAID WILL TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE
AMBIGUITY AND HELP PREVENT THE LIKELIHOOD OF WRONG-WAY
DRIVING.
THE DELAWARE SIGN IS COMPLETE ALREADY.
CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO START IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF
2023 MOSTLY DUE TO SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.
WE ALREADY ANTICIPATED DEALING ON DISCUSSION AND THE LEAD
TIME FRAME HAS GONE THROUGH THE ROOF.
SO THAT ONE GOT PUSHED A BIT.
THE NEXT ONE IS ONE WE HAVE COMPLETED ALREADY A HIGHLAND AND
CHELSEA.
AN OVERVIEW OF THE AREA ITSELF TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE
IT IS AT.
A CLOSER REVIEW WILL POINT OUT THE PROXIMITY OF THE MIDDLE
SCHOOL WHICH IS A HUGE DRIVER IN THE NEED FOR THIS PROJECT
IN THE FIRST PLACE THIS IS THE DESIGN WE INSTALLED OUT
THERE, HIGH EMPHASIS, SPECIAL EMPHASIS CROSSWALKS.
BUTTON ACTIVATED RECTANGULAR FLASHING BEACONS TO GET ACROSS
HIGHLAND.
AND ALSO WE HAVE SOME ADVANCED DEVICES OF THE SAME TYPE.
ONCE THE BUTTONS ARE ACTIVATED, THE ADVANCE BEACONS WILL
ACTIVATE TO GIVE THE VEHICLES ADVANCED NOTIFICATION THAT
SOMEONE INTENDS TO CROSS THE STREET.
A VIEW OF THE ACTUAL FINISHED PRODUCT LOOKING FROM ONE OF
THE CORNERS.
YOU CAN SEE THE BUTTON-ACTIVATED BEACONS ON THE OPPOSITE
CORNER WE HAD TO BUILD THE RAMPS.
AND IMPROVED MARKINGS, TRUNCATED DOMES, SPECIAL EMPHASIS
CROSSWALKS AND ONCE AGAIN THE BEACONS.
AND OF COURSE I WANT TO CLOSE WITH A SAFETY MESSAGE.
STOP SPEEDING BEFORE IT STOPS YOU.
SLOW DOWN.
TWO DECADES, SPEED SOMETHING INVOLVED IN OVER ONE-THIRD OF
MOTOR VEHICLE FATALITIES.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
09:52:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:52:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS.
THE CHELSEA CROSSING IS GREAT.
I HAVE NOTICED THE IMPROVED PAINTING AND SIGNAGE.
A VERY NICE ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT I ALSO WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE SELMON RAMP.
I THINK THAT IS A GREAT PROJECT.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS.
THE PEDESTRIAN -- THE EAST SIDE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY THAT
BASICALLY CONNECTS PALMETTO BEACH TO THE REST OF THE CITY.
THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY WAY A LOT OF THOSE RESIDENTS
CONNECT.
I HAVE BIKED THAT MYSELF.
A, IT IS REALLY HARD TO FIND A WAY TO GET ACROSS THE STREET
EVEN AT ADAMO.
IT IS A DIFFICULT CROSSING.
ONCE YOU GET THERE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE CROSSINGS TO GET ON
AND OFF THE SELMON THAT AS A PEDESTRIAN OR CYCLIST IS VERY
DANGEROUS.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE DOING -- YOU ARE WORKING ON A COUPLE
OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
ARE YOU ACTUALLY GOING TO TACKLE ALL THE INTERSECTIONS?
THAT IS ONE QUESTION.
THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING
DURING CONSTRUCTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FOLKS WHO USE
THAT AS THEIR PRIMARY MEANS OF CONNECTING TO THE CITY -- TO
THE REST OF THE CITY CAN STILL DO THAT.
09:54:14AM >> THE WAY THIS PARTICULAR INTERCHANGE IS BUILT, THERE ARE
SOME OF THOSE ON RAMPS LIKE THE NORTHBOUND 22nd TO GO
EASTBOUND ON TO THE CROSSTOWN.
THAT HAPPENS SOUTH OF THE INTERCHANGE ITSELF.
SO THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS SIGNALIZATION PROJECT.
THE OTHER ONES, I BELIEVE, WE ARE COVERING.
AND I KNOW THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING
SIGNALIZATION FOR THE ADAMO AND 26 SIGNAL WHICH -- YOU KNOW,
IF YOU PUT 22nd UP AND OVER, IT WILL GIVE YOU ANOTHER
CROSSING TO GET ACROSS ADAMO.
AND I AM NOT SURE OF THE OVERALL TRAIL PLANS.
I KNOW A TRAIL ON THE NORTH SIDE OF ADAMO, A TRAIL ON 22nd.
I ASSUME THERE ARE PLANS TO MARRY THOSE UP BUT THAT IS A
LITTLE OUT OF MY PURVIEW.
09:55:14AM >>VIK BHIDE:
IF I MAY ADD TO THAT, ED.
AND COUNCILWOMAN, I THINK YOU MAKE A GREAT POINT.
GENERALLY THE PALMETTO AREA IS NOT AS WELL CONNECTED FROM
MULTIMODAL DIDN'T WITH YBOR OR THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AND
CERTAINLY DOWNTOWN.
THESE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE ARE HAVING WITH
SECRETARY GUINN AND STAKEHOLDERS.
WE ARE AWARE OF THE YBOR AND PALMETTO COMMUNITIES MAKING THE
REQUEST TO IMPROVE THE CONDITION.
SO AT THIS TIME, I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC UPDATE AND
CERTAINLY RELATIVE TO THIS PROJECT ED MAY NOT, BUT WE WILL
FOLLOW UP ON THE SAME SOON.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO PROVIDING A BRIEFING ON THAT.
09:56:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, BUT I -- I KNOW THAT COMMUNITY WILL NEED
A WAY TO GET THROUGH DURING THAT CONSTRUCTION.
SO THAT IS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR ME.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WILL DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.
09:56:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:56:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US AND MAKING
YOUR PRESENTATIONS.
SOME TIME BACK TALK ABOUT MALFUNCTION JUNCTION WITH ANOTHER
EXIT TO YBOR CITY BEFORE THE CURVE.
IS THAT STILL ON?
I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK?
09:56:37AM >> I HAVE NOT HEARD OF THAT.
09:56:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM NOT TRYING TO THROW YOU A CURVE OR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
NEVER HAD A GOOD ONE ANYWAY.
09:56:46AM >> WE WILL FOLLOW UP AND GET BACK WITH YOU.
09:56:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO PROBLEM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:56:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS, SIR.
ON YOUR KENNEDY PROJECT, STATE ROAD 60.
I AM SEEING BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS.
WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE RESIDENTIAL BEING BUILT ALONG
THAT CORRIDOR.
IS THERE ANY PLANS FOR A DIVIDED BIKE LANE AND MORE LIGHTED
CROSSINGS?
09:57:16AM >> ONCE AGAIN, I AM NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING THAT ENCOMPASSING,
ESPECIALLY ON KENNEDY.
09:57:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AM PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT AND I AM GOING
TO SAY THIS.
IF WE HAVE BIKE LANES AND MORE PEDESTRIANS AND MORE
RESIDENTIAL IN THERE, THAT SPEED LIMIT IS GOING TO HAVE TO
DROP.
SO I WILL GET BACK WITH YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU, SIR.
09:57:46AM >> YES.
09:57:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OKAY.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5.
A PRESENTATION.
FOR REAPPOINTMENT.
SEE, I THOUGHT MISS SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES IS HERE.
09:58:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
I'M HERE REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 5 REGARDING THE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
MR. SHAWN WILSON SENT US AN E-MAIL SAYING DEAR CITY COUNCIL,
GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CONSIDERING
REAPPOINTING ME TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY
COMMITTEE.
I WAS CALLED OUT OF MY HOMETOWN ON BUSINESS.
AND I AM NOT ABLE TO BE PRESENT WITH YOU TODAY.
I AM VERY INTERESTED IN CONTINUING IN THIS CAPACITY, AND I
WOULD SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
AGAIN, THAT IS FROM MR. SHAWN WILSON, WHO IS THE FOUNDER AND
PRESIDENT OF BLUE SKY COMMUNITIES LCC.
AND HE IS ASKING FOR REAPPOINTMENT.
09:59:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO REAPPOINT.
09:59:21AM >> SECOND.
09:59:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT BY COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
09:59:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
09:59:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:59:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MISS FOXX-KNOWLES MADE UP OF MAYOR OR CITY
COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS TO THAT BOARD?
09:59:43AM >> IT IS A COMBINATION.
THERE ARE -- PROBABLY HALF AND HALF.
HE WAS ALL CITY COUNCIL.
MR. SHAWN WILSON IS CITY COUNCIL.
AND THERE ARE SOME VACANCIES ON THE BOARD WITH MAYOR,
COUNCIL ARE OR CITY COUNCIL.
10:00:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
PLEASE GIVE ME THOSE UPDATES.
I WONDER OF THE VACANCY.
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO MAY LOOK TO GET ON THAT BOARD.
10:00:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. SHELBY.
10:00:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HOW MANY MESHES ARE THERE.
11.
SIX MINORAL AND FIVE COUNCIL?
10:00:21AM >> 11, YES.
10:00:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THERE ARE 11.
INTERESTINGLY, COUNCIL, THE -- THE ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS
THAT BOARD TO EXIST SAYS THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO SERVE
AFTER THEIR TERM EXPIRES UNTIL SOMEBODY ELSE IS REAPPOINTED.
SO THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE -- THEIR TERMS HAVE EXPIRED,
FOR INSTANCE, MR. WILSON.
HIS TERM HAS EXPIRED.
AND NOW HE GETS TO BE REAPPOINTED.
THE OTHER THING IS, ONLY ALLOWS FOR TWO THREE-YEAR TERMS.
THE TERM IS THREE YEARS AND THOSE ARE -- I TALKED TO MR.
MASSEY ABOUT IT -- VERY SPECIFIC CATEGORIES THAT YOU LOOK
FOR IN ORDER TO FILL THOSE SEATS.
SO YOU HAVE TO BE VERY SPECIFIC AS IT IS.
BUT WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS I BELIEVE WORK WITH THE -- WITH
THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF
THOSE CONCERNS BECAUSE ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE IS HOW
MUCH TIME HAS ELAPSED SINCE THEIR TERM HAS EXPIRED.
BUT I WILL ADDRESS THAT WITH THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT.
10:01:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:01:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:01:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
SPECIFIC BOARDS -- SOME HAVE SPECIFIC BOARDS AND CATEGORIES.
BUT WITH THESE BOARDS, YOU NEED TO HAVE REGULAR LAY CITIZENS
ON SOME OF THESE BOARDS TO GIVE OPINIONS AS WELL.
10:01:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COMES UP BECAUSE
IT IS SO SPECIFIC AND SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS MAY BE HARD TO
FILL, YOU MA IT NOT WANT TO HAVE A TERM LIMITATION.
AND THREE YEARS BEING SHORT, BUT SOMETHING TO AMEND BUT THAT
COULD BE DOWN THE ROAD WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE DEPARTMENT,
OF COURSE.
10:02:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILMAN VIERA, MISS
TRAVIS, YOU LOOK AS IF YOU WISH TO SAY SOMETHING.
10:02:12AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WE WILL BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT AND BRING IT
BACK TO YOU AND MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU.
WE WOULD APPRECIATE THE REAPPOINTMENT OF MR. WILSON.
THANK YOU.
10:02:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:02:24AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF ANYBODY WHO KNOWS MR. WILSON AND PUT WORDS
OUT THERE.
HE'S A GOOD DUDE.
HE IS AMAZING GUY.
WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MAKING SURE WE BUILD
HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO GET TO THE MIDDLE
CLASS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO STAY IN THE
WORKING-CLASS.
SHAWN -- MR. WILSON IS AWESOME.
10:02:44AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP HIM ON THE BOARD.
10:02:48AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HE IS AWESOME.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AS A WORD THAT HE IS A REALLY GOOD
GUY.
10:02:53AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THANK YOU.
10:02:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
YOU WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT?
10:03:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
GLAD ALL THIS CAME UP BECAUSE LAST
ELECTION, THE COUNCIL SERVED ONE MONTH MORE, WASN'T IT.
THE SAME THING.
SO -- BECAUSE WHATEVER REASON IT WAS --
10:03:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS.
10:03:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I MEAN, THAT'S HOW IT IS.
10:03:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:03:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:03:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:03:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:03:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:03:31AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
10:03:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
10:03:33AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:03:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DIRECTING THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY TO
PREPARE A RESOLUTION CONSISTENT WITH COUNCIL'S MOTION.
THANK YOU, IS THAT CORRECT?
THANK YOU.
10:03:47AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:03:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MISS SHIRLEY.
CHIEF BENNETT, ARE YOU WITH US?
I GUESS HE IS TAKING A SICK DAY.
CHIEF TRIPP.
10:04:03AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
CHIEF TRIPP, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
I AM NOT CHIEF OF STAFF BUT I WILL FILL IN WHEREVER I CAN.
I BELIEVE CFO WILL FILL IN AS WELL.
I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES.
IF NOT I HAVE THEM THAT I CAN PUT UP.
10:04:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN, PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:04:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ASKED BY CHIEF OF STAFF TO GIVE A REPORT ON
HURRICANE -- AND THEN WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU.
10:04:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT IS THE WAY YOU WISH TO DO IT, MR.
CHAIR?
10:04:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
10:04:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITHOUT OBJECTION AND UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
THAT NORMALLY GOES IN THE STAFF REPORT SECTION BUT THAT'S
FINE IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
10:05:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, ONCE AGAIN.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, GIVE MY PRAYERS TO THE COMMUNITY OUT IN
SOUTH FLORIDA WHO WERE PRESENTED WITH HURRICANE IAN THAT
PRESENTED A LOT OF DEVASTATION.
JUST KNOW THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA DEPLOYED SOME PERSONNEL TO
GO DOWN THERE AND ASSIST WITH SOME RELIEF.
SENT 41 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND 15 SWORN PERSONNEL AS
WELL AS ONE MECHANIC.
AND SO FAR, THEY HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE SATURDAY MORNING.
THEY HAVE DONE OVER 1,000 911 CALLS TO CLEAR OUT THEIR QUEUE
ON LOG.
AND I THINK THEY RESCUED AND AND ASSISTED OVER 1,000
FAMILIES.
THE LAST NUMBER I HAVE WHICH IS -- WHICH WAS 900.
SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK TSA FOR HOSTING A PUBLIC
SAFETY ASSETS WHEN WE HAD TO EVACUATE SOME OF THE STATIONS,
AS WELL AS SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT, HELICOPTERS AND STUFF.
TSA OPENED THEIR DOORS TO ASSIST US WITH THAT.
SO ONCE AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, TAMPA BAY -- BASICALLY WE WERE
FORTUNATE TO HAVE EXCELLENT COORDINATION AND COMMUNICATION
WITH OUR STATE, REGIONAL AND LOCAL AND FEDERAL PARTNERS.
WE STARTED THIS COMMUNICATION ABOUT TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THIS
EVENT ONCE WE KNEW THIS STORM WAS KIND OF HEADED THAT WAY.
AS WE PUT ON THE SCREEN, WE HAVE THE NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS
GOALLINE OF THINGS WE TRY TO DO.
WE TRY TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PREVENT.
WE CAN'T STOP MOTHER NATURE AND THE BIGGEST THING WE CAN DO
IS PREPARE FOR HER.
SO IF WE LOOK AT HOW WE ARE GOING TO PREVENT.
WE DEFINITELY WANT TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES
SNOB.
AS FAR AS SOME OF THE THREATS AND THINGS WE DID AS FAR AS
PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE DIFFERENT SERVICES WEB
IT COMES TO SANDBAGS AND I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE
DATA.
TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MITIGATE ANY KIND OF HAZARDS,
POTENTIAL HAZARDS.
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE ASSISTED WITH
EVACUATING SOME OF THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES THAT WERE
IN SOUTH TAMPA TO HIGHER GROUNDS.
WE EVACUATED 41 CRITICAL PATIENTS UP TO KINDRED NORTH --
KINDRED CENTRAL, I AM SORRY.
AND ALSO GRAND COURT.
WE ASSISTED WITH 31 SENIOR CITIZENS THERE.
SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE DO -- AND, OF COURSE, WE WANT
TO CONTINUE TO RESPOND -- TAMPA FIRE RESCUE TO RESPOND TO
CALLS UNTIL IT WAS UNSAFE FOR US TO RESPOND.
FORTUNATELY WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE QUEUE THAT HAD US
NOT TO RESPOND.
WE WANTED TO RESPOND TO THE COMMUNITIESND HELP PREVENT AND
PROVIDE AS MUCH SAFETY AS WE CAN.
WHEN THEY ARE IN NEED, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO RESPOND AND ALL
ABOUT RECOVERY AND DO IT IN A TIMELY FASHION.
I WILL GO OVER A TIMELINE OF SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT TOOK
PLACE.
ONCE WE -- ONCE TAMPA WAS TARGETED AS FAR AS IN THE CONE, WE
STARTED WITH COMMUNICATING WITH LOCAL AND COMMUNITY
PARTNERS.
WE STARTED HAVING PRESS CONFERENCES.
THE CITY OF TAMPA WENT TO A LEVEL 2 ON MONDAY AND ACTIVATED
LEVEL 1 TUESDAY MORNING AT 7:30 AND DID NOT END UNTIL
THURSDAY EVENING 2800, 8:00 AND WENT BACK TO A LEVEL 3 WHICH
IS JUST BASICALLY MONITORING.
THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE TIME WHEN WE WERE OVER THERE, WE HAD
PRESS CONFERENCES TWICE A DAY TO CONTINUE TO INFORM THE
COMMUNITY WHAT WAS GOING ON.
PRIOR TO THAT SOME OF THE THINGS WE DID AS FAR AS HELP
PREVENTING.
WE GOT THE INFORMATION OUT ABOUT SANDBAGS.
WE GOT THE INFORMATION OF MAKING SURE THEY WATCHED THE
WEATHER REPORTS AND STUFF.
WE WERE IN DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
TWICE A DAY TO GET INFORMATION AND INFORM THE COMMUNITIES
ON.
SO IF YOU CAN PUT THE NEXT SLIDE UP.
THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE.
BASICALLY I WILL GIVE YOU SOME MORE NUMBERS.
WE DISTRIBUTED OVER 1,000 -- I AM SORRY, 100,000 SANDBAGS
OVER A THREE-DAY PERIOD.
ONCE WE REALIZED THAT THIS WAS COMING AND, OF COURSE,
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY GAVE THE -- THE CLOSING OF THE SCHOOLS
AND STUFF -- YOU KNOW WE STARTED HELPING FAMILIES, SENIORS
AND, OF COURSE, OUR VULNERABLE POPULATION.
WE OPENED UP -- WE INITIALLY OPENED 16 OUT-OF-SCHOOL CAMPS
WHILE PEOPLE HAD TO WORK UNTIL THEIR JOB CLOSED THEM DOWN.
WE CLOSED THREE OF THEM THAT WAS IN ZONE A AND B AND OF
COURSE WE SERVED OVER 300 CHILDREN.
WITH THAT WE HAD SHELTERS.
WENT FULL ACTIVATION WITH THE SHELTERS.
MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL, PIZZO, LOCKHART AND WHARTON HIGH
SCHOOL.
THOSE WERE THE ONES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND ACTUALLY
STAFFED BY CITY OF TAMPA EMPLOYEES AROUND THE CLOCK.
1100 GUESTS THROUGHOUT THOSE SHELTERS AND OF COURSE WE WANT
TO GIVE THANKS TO PUT THIS ONE SLIDE UP THAT IS NOT UP THERE
AND I WANTED TO SHOW THIS ONE IF I COULD SO I KIND OF WANTED
TO SHOW THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF TIME WE DON'T GET CALL TAKE
ENOUGH.
WE HAVE A CALL TAKE SINCE THE RNC, THE CITY OF TAMPA
ACTUALLY -- WE ACTUALLY ESTABLISH A CALL CENTER THAT HAVE
HUMANS AND NOT JUST VOICE AUTO.
SO THESE INDIVIDUALS TAKE CALLS.
AS SOON AS THIS TOOK PLACE, WE ACTUALLY -- LET ME GET IT
STRAIGHT.
WE ACTIVATED THE CALL CENTER.
AND THEY ACTUALLY RECEIVED OVER 2500 CALLS THROUGHOUT THE
TIME FRAME THAT THEY WERE THERE.
INFORMATION WAS GIVEN OUT.
THESE CALL CENTERS REPRESENTATIVES ALSO ASSISTED WITH THE
COUNTY BECAUSE OUR NUMBERS ACTUALLY POLITICIZED WITH THE
COUNTY WITH INFORMATION.
ANYWHERE FROM DOWNED TREES, TRAFFIC LIGHT ISSUES, HOW CAN
THEY GET HELP, HOW CAN THEY GET TO SPECIAL NEEDS SHELTERS.
THESE CALL CENTER TAKERS WERE -- THEY WERE WONDERFUL AND
HELPED THE COMMUNITY OUT A LOT.
SO WE ALSO AS FAR AS CODE ENFORCEMENT, WE VISIT OVER 100 ALF
FACILITIES.
INSPECTED THEIR GENERATORS.
MAKE SURE THEY WERE OPERATIONAL.
AND BASICALLY WE REACHED OUT TO THE VULNERABLE POPULATION,
TAMPA HOPE RESIDENTS, PARKS AND REC STAFF PRESENTED OVER 100
RESIDENTS OF ONE OF THE SHELTERS OF MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL.
THROUGHOUT THE EVENING UP UNTIL THE AREA GOT TO THE.WHERE WE
WERE UNABLE, UNSAFE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY TO RESPOND, IT WAS
VERY MINIMUM.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CALLS IN THE QUEUE, BUT OVERNIGHT, WE
WILL 21 CALLS FOR POWER LINES DOWN.
SIX DOWNED TREE LIMBS.
AND ONE HOUSE FIRE THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO HAVE A TREE THAT
FALL ON IT.
ONE TRANSFORMER FIRE.
BASICALLY ONCE THE STORM WAS OVER, OUR ERCs, OUR EMERGENCY
RESPONSE CREWS WERE PUSHED OUT.
FULL ACTIVATION ON FRIDAY -- SORRY, FULL ACTIVATION 5 P.M.
ON TUESDAY.
AND WE HAD TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, FOREST
HILL AND OAK PARK.
ERC HAD 16.
ERC 3 HAD SEVEN PUSH CREWS.
AND ERC 3 HAD SEVEN PUSH CREWS AS WELL.
AS FAR AS MOBILITY, WE HAD 71 SIGNAL INTERSECTIONS THAT WENT
DARK.
AND ALL OF THEM WERE BACK UP RUNNING BY 1700 HOURS ON
FRIDAY.
AS FAR AS DAMAGE TO PARKS AND REC.
59 PARKS AFFECTED WITH TREE DAMAGE.
WE ACTUALLY -- AS FAR AS DEBRIS MANAGEMENT THE ROME YARD
DESIGNATED FOR CITY DEBRIS MANAGEMENT.
BOTH DEBRIS MANAGEMENT CONTRACTORS ARE THERE AND HAVE BEEN
ACTIVATED.
DEBRIS STARTED MONDAY OCTOBER 30 AS FAR AS PICKING IT UP.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I TRY TO GIVE YOU A SHORT REPORT.
10:13:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:13:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
CHIEF, THANK THE CITY STAFF AND THOSE OUT THERE SERVING AND
WORKING.
THANK THEM BECAUSE IT IS DIFFICULT TO BE AWARE FROM YOUR OWN
FAMILY WITH THINGS GOING ON ESPECIALLY SINCE THE POTENTIAL
STORM WE HAD.
I DID GO OUT AND VISIT A LOT OF THE SHELTERS.
ER WIN.
I WENT TO THE SECOND FLOOR.
GREAT JOB BY SOME OF THE FIRE GUYS THAT WERE THERE AND STAFF
THAT WERE THERE WORKING WITH OUR ELDERLY AND FOLKS THAT HAVE
MEDICAL NEEDS.
CRITICAL TO HAVE THAT OPEN.
I WENT BY MIDDLETON.
A LOT OF FOLKS THERE AT MIDDLETON.
GREAT JOB WITH THE STAFF THERE AS WELL BUT I DID NOTICE A
FEW THINGS THAT I WANT YOU TO ADD TO THE AFTER ACTION PLAN.
WHAT THOSE DON'T KNOW WITH THE AFTER ACTION, WHEN THERE IS
AN INCIDENT, AND AROUND A ROUNDTABLE TO THINGS THAT COULD
WORK OR COULD BE IMPROVED.
SANDBAGS.
18th STREET PARK AL BARNES, I WAS OVER THERE SEVERAL TIMES
HELP DO BAGS.
WE NEED ANOTHER LOCATION MY THING IS THIS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT TWO YEARS.
WE HAVE A COUNTY JAIL WITH NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS.
SAND CAN BE TAKEN OVER TO THE JAIL, THE SHERIFF AND SANDBAGS
CAN BE FILLED.
WE KNOW A STORM IS COMING.
PEOPLE WERE STAYING TWO AND THREE HOURS ONLINE GOING ALL THE
WAY BACK.
SOME WHO ARE LOW INCOME DON'T HAVE GAS AND HAD TO STAND ON
THE LINE TO GET SANDBAGS.
THAT A PROBLEM FOR ME.
WE CAN DO BETTER ON THE SANDBAG SITUATIONS.
WE KNOW SOMETHING IS COMING.
HAVE PREPARED BAGS.
GET WITH THE SHERIFF TO GET THOSE BAGS READY TO BE PREPARED.
THEN AGAIN SOME OF OUR WORKERS CAN HAVE SOME BAGS IN TRUCKS
TO GO TO SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES WHERE PEOPLE -- SOME OF OUR
SENIORS DON'T HAVE CARS.
THEY NEED SANDBAGS.
A LOT OF THAT HAPPENED.
I TOOK SOME SANDBAGS TO SOME FOLKS.
JUST OTHER WAYS OF TRYING TO IMPROVE, BUT DEFINITELY WITH
THE SANDBAG SITUATION.
THAT HAS GOT TO BE IMPROVED.
WE RAN OUT OF SAND.
WE THOUGHT IT WAS COMING.
COULD HAPPEN.
NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
BUT I THINK A BETTER EFFICIENCY OF DEALING WITH THE SANDBAG.
EVEN WITH SOME OF THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS -- WE COULD HAVE SOME
OF THE FOOTBALL TEAM TO COME OUT, TO DO BAGS.
AND HAVE THAT READY TO GO AND THEY COULD DROVE THEM IN AND
KEEP THE LINE MOVING.
TWO TO THREE HOURS IS A LONG TIME TO BE IN A LINE.
IT WAS CLOSED AND MY BROTHER WANTED TO GET BAGS.
WAS THERE AT 5:00.
THOUGHT IT WOULD OPEN AT 7.
DIDN'T OPEN UNTIL 9.
PEOPLE WERE WAITING.
SECOND THING TECO.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION LATER ON OF TECO REPRESENTATIVE COMING
TO COUNCIL.
I FIND THAT TECO -- I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THEIR
PREPAREDNESS AS IT RELATES TO MAKING SURE THOSE LINES ARE
CLEARED BEFORE A STORM -- OR DURING A YEAR.
BECAUSE I AM FINDING OUT WITH THE POWER OUTAGES THAT THEY
WON'T DO ANYTHING FOR THE LINES TO COME OUT BECAUSE SOME OF
THE POWER LINES HAVE GONE THROUGH THE TREES.
AND IT IS WET.
AND THEY CAN'T -- THEY WON'T WORK ON IT.
I HEAR SOME PEOPLE SAY -- I TALKED TO A TECO EMPLOYEE AND
SOME PEOPLE COME OUT AND SOME OF THE RESIDENTS SAY DON'T CUT
g10:17:16AM MY TREE AND YOU ARE HURTING OTHER PEOPLE IN THE AREA.
IF THAT IS THE CASE -- IF THAT IS A HINDRANCE, WE NEED TO
FIX THAT SO THE POWER OUTAGES WILL BE UP INSTEAD OF DOWN FOR
A AMOUNT OF TIME.
WHAT IS THE MAINTENANCE IN THE CITY OF THE TREES.
GOT TO KNOW THAT.
TALKED OF DISABLED FOLKS.
RIVER PINES AND A FEW OTHER PLACES.
TO HAVE THE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE
PREPARED BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS WERE CALLING WHEN THEY
WERE OUT.
INSULIN NOT BEING REFRIGERATED.
A LOT OF ISSUES LIKE THAT.
FOLKS ON DIALYSIS.
I THINK IF THEY ARE ON DIALYSIS AND THEY GO TO A PLACE EVERY
DAY WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO -- I KNOW WE CONTACTED THE
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERSON AT PIZZO, BUT COULDN'T GET THE
INFORMATION AT THE PLACE ON TIME.
THAT IS OKAY.
A RUSH TO DO IT.
BUT IN THE FUTURE WE NEED THE MEDICAL FACILITIES.
ALL THESE DIALYSIS PLACES TO HAVE A REGISTRY TO KNOW -- SO
YOU KNOW.
SO IT DOESN'T PUT US OF NOT BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES
WITHIN THESE SHELTERS.
THAT IS WHAT I WAS FINDING OUT BIG TIME ABOUT THAT.
AND LASTLY, I LOOK AT THE COMMUNICATION WITH THIS COUNCIL.
I NEVER HAVE BEEN OVER TO THE EOC.
I KNOW WHERE IT IS LOCATED.
I NEVER HAD A TOUR OF IT.
DON'T KNOW HOW IT IS OPERATED.
AS POLICE OFFICERS -- BUT THE OTHER CONCEPT.
IT IS GOOD TO KNOW FOR THIS COUNCIL -- FOR THIS COUNCIL, I
AM SHUT OUT WHEN WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY -- CHIEF OF STAFF DOES
A GOOD JOB OF GIVING LIMITED -- ALL THE INFORMATION IS WHAT
YOU ARE PUTTING TO THE PUBLIC.
I AM PUT IT OUT.
WHEN DO WE GET BRIEFED AND ABLE TO SAY.
THAT IS A PROBLEM WITH THE SYSTEM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY CALLING ME BECAUSE I AM THE ELECTED
OFFICIAL.
AND I SHOULD KNOW ANSWERS.
I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB WHEN WE CAN BE INFORMED
AND PART OF THE PROCESS TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS TO GET
INFORMATION TO OUR CONSTITUENTS.
THEY ARE CALLING US FIRST TO FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON.
MY LITTLE TIDBITS TO LOOK FOR THE AFTER ACTION.
THANK YOU.
10:19:20AM >> I REALLY DIDN'T -- CAN I COMMENT?
10:19:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
CHIEF, GO AHEAD.
10:19:24AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I WAS TRYING TO GO SHORT AND BRIEF AND I CAN
GO MORE IN DETAILS WITH SANDBAGS BECAUSE WE REALIZED LONG
LINES AND STUFF.
WE DID OVERCOME AND I WILL LET MISS WYNN TO GIVE MORE
DETAIL, IF YOU CARE, BUT BASICALLY WE STARTED BAGGING SOME
OF THE BAGS UP AND STARTED ASSISTING SOME OF THE RESIDENTS
WITH THE BAGS AS THEY CAME THROUGH SO WOULDN'T HAVE A LONG
LINE.
WE DID HAVE THREE SITES.
I CAN LET HER TALK MORE OF THE CHANGES WE DID ONCE WE SAW
THE LINES BEING LONG.
10:19:56AM >>OCEA WYNN:
OCEA WYNN, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
AS CHIEF TRIPP MENTIONED, YES, WE REALIZED WE WERE
CHALLENGED WITH LONG LINES WITH THE BAGS.
WE HAD STAFF COME IN AND START PREBAGGING FIRST THING IN THE
MORNING.
AND WHAT YOU WILL SEE THE BAGS WERE GIVEN OUT BY THE TIME
THEY GOT THERE.
THAT WAS TO MITIGATE LONG LINES.
ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IS LOOKING
FOR SITES SO WE CAN SET UP A FOURTH SANDBAGGING SITE.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INGRESS AND EGRESS OF THOSE SITES AND
A LOT OF OUR PARK CENTERS.
WE WERE CHALLENGED WITH THAT.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENT OF LOOKING OUTSIDE OF
THE CITY.
WE WILL SEE WHAT WE CAN TO DO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
WE HAD STAFF ON -- RIGHT ON THE SCENE MAKING THOSE
ON-THE-SPOT DECISIONS IF WE NEED TO, OKAY, DO WE NEED TO
REROUTE TRAFFIC PARTICULARLY AT MacFARLANE PARK.
WE KNEW ON THE FIRST DAY WE HAD A GAME THAT EVENING.
WE DETOURED AND REROUTED TRAFFIC SO THERE WOULD NOT BE A
CONFLICT WITH THE VISITORS OR PARTICIPANTS GOING TO THE
GAME.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE AFTER ACTIONS TO IDENTIFY
ADDITIONAL SITES NOW.
WE WERE DYNAMIC ON THE SPOT IN TERMS OF TRYING TO IDENTIFY
WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO NOW TO MITIGATE SOME OF
THIS TRAFFIC.
SO, YES.
10:21:35AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:21:37AM >>OCEA WYNN:
YOU ARE WELCOME.
10:21:40AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
TECO STAGED AT MULTIPLE FIRE STATIONS
AND ERCs THAT WERE ASSISTING WITH THE POWER LINES.
LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T GO INTO DETAIL.
TECO AS FAR AS THE CONTRACTOR, POWER LINES, CLEARED BY 1630.
OF COURSE THEY HAD TO GET THAT IN ORDER TO GET THE POWER
BACK UP.
EACH ONE OF THE ERCs GAVE A DETAILED REPORT AND I HAVE THAT
TO PUT IN THE AFTER APPLICATION THAT TALKS ABOUT TECO.
THE CONTRACTORS WORKED REQUEST THE PUSH CREWS.
ASSISTED WITH CUTTING THE TREES AND TRYING TO GET THE POWER
UP AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
ACCORDING TO THIS APPROXIMATELY 90 REQUESTS WERE SUBMITTED
TO TECO.
THIS WAS IN ERC 3.
AND 708 INCIDENTS FROM TECO WAS REPORTED.
THEY HAD THE FILL OUT 400 ERC EVENTS TOOK PLACE AND A LOT OF
THIS WAS CLEARED UP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
WE HAVE A TECO REPRESENTATIVE IN THE EOC AS WELL.
AND GAVE US CONSTANTLY UPDATE AND LET US KNOW WHAT POWER WAS
OUT AND THE DIFFERENT GRIDS AND STUFF.
10:22:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I APPRECIATE THAT, CHIEF.
BUT WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT TECO'S MAINTENANCE PLAN WAS.
BECAUSE LIKE I SAID A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS CLAIMED THEY
COULDN'T GET THE POWER BECAUSE THE LINES WERE THROUGH THEIR
TREES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
PEOPLE HAVE CALLED.
EVEN IN EAST TAMPA.
COUPLE OF STREETS THAT PEOPLE CALLED, I WENT OUT THERE AND
TAKES THEM FOREVER.
I SAID I GOT TO WAIT -- FOR THE CREW TO CUT THE TREE AND
WHATEVER.
WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT IS THE MAINTENANCE PLAN OF KNEES
TREES AND RESIDENTS TO SAY I HAVE LINES GOING THROUGH THIS
TREE TO FIND OUT TO GET THOSE CUT.
YOU HAVE A STORM, IT WILL BE A WHILE BECAUSE POWER WON'T BE
-- APPARENTLY THE GUY TOLD ME BECAUSE OF THE WETNESS OF THE
TREE GOING THROUGH THE LINES.
OTHER ISSUES AND TAKES SO LONG SOMETIMES.
10:23:27AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
THAT IS ONE OF THE REASON I WILL PUT A LOT OF
INFORMATION ABOUT GENERATORS AS WELL.
I KNOW SOME PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD IT AND WE OFFER THE SHELTERS
FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
I WILL MAKE SURE IT IS IN THE AFTER ACTION REPORT.
10:23:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:23:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:23:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT I WANT
TO TALK ABOUT.
I APPRECIATE IT.
VERY, VERY GOOD TOPIC, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SANDBAGS.
100,000 BAGS DISTRIBUTED BUT PEOPLE WERE SAYING WHY NOT A
DIFFERENT LOCATION AND WHATNOT AND I KNOW YOU WILL BE
ADDRESSING THAT AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNCILMEMBERS OUT
FILLING THOSE SANDBAGS.
SEVERAL WERE OUT THERE WHICH IS ALWAYS VERY GOOD.
MORE IMPORTANTLY I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
I KNOW THAT -- WHAT WAS IT LIKE 40 TPD OFFICERS WERE
DEPLOYED TO NORTH PORT IN PORT CHARLOTTE.
MY WIFE MOVED UP FROM NORTH PORT LAST YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HER NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS LIKE.
MY ELDEST STEPDAUGHTER LIVES DOWN THERE WITH HER FATHER AND
THEY HAVE BEEN WITHOUT POWER.
THEY ARE FINE, BUT NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR THEM TO EVACUATE TO
COME HERE BECAUSE AS THE STORM WAS TURNING QUICKLY, THEY ARE
OKAY, BUT THEY HAVE -- HE HAS SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO HIS
HOUSE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO RELAY ON THEIR BEHALF, THANK
YOU FOR TAMPA COMING IN AND STEPPING UP AND GOING DOWN
THERE.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE SEEN HOW HELPFUL OUR PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOWN
TO THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
AGAIN, COUNCILMAN GUDES, JUST TO KEEP MY COMMENTS BRIEF HAVE
MENTIONED EVERYTHING REGARDING GOING TO THE EOC.
I NEVER HAVE BEEN THERE.
MANY OF US HAVE NOT BEEN THERE.
JUST SO WE KNOW.
AND AN APPRECIATION TO CHIEF BENNETT.
HE WAS VERY QUICK WITH INFORMATION.
BUT WE GET INUNDATED WITH QUESTIONS.
AND AS CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES, PEOPLE REACH OUT TO US
ESPECIALLY WITH POWER LOSS.
I WOULD REPLAY EVERYTHING TO MR. JUICE AT TECO FOR THOSE
WITHOUT POWER FOR SEVERAL DAYS AND HE WAS VERY, VERY
RESPONSIVE.
TECO IS VERY, VERY GOOD WITH THAT, BUT, AGAIN, THIS IS A
VERY COMPLICATED EFFORT WHEN WE HAVE SUCH AN UNPREDICTABLE
STORM, BUT I APPRECIATE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT YOU
AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WORKED TIRELESSLY ON STANDBY THERE
TO KEEP THIS COMMUNITY SAFE.
THANK YOU.
10:25:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:25:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
YOU KNOW I ECHO THE PART ON APPRECIATION.
I WAS -- I WILL BE HONEST.
I WAS FLOORED JUST WATCHING WHAT OUR CITY OF TAMPA WORKERS
DID.
BEING OUT AT THE SANDBAG LOCATION.
MISS WYNN'S GROUP AND PARKS AND RECREATION.
I WAS FLOORED.
THAT IS REALLY HARD WORK.
A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS -- AND I AM OUT OF SHAPE, OKAY, I WAS
OUT THERE TWO, TWO AND A HALF HOURS WITH MY WIFE AND I WAS
EXHAUSTED AND FOLKS WERE OUT THERE ABOUT TEN HOURS, RIGHT.
IMFLOORED.
JUST BY ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS, PARKS AND RECREATION,
OBVIOUSLY FIRE, POLICE, ETC., ALL OF THE PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO
ARE HERE, THE CITY ATTORNEY, DEALING WITH EMERGENCY ORDERS.
IT WAS REALLY JUST SOMETHING TO SEE EVEN JUST FROM A
DISTANCE.
AND YOU KNOW THE ONLY THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY -- AND I WILL
PROBABLY -- I WILL MAKE MOTIONS ON THIS AT THE END.
NUMBER ONE, COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTION A GOOD POINT WITH
REGARDS TO THE SANDBAG ISSUES THAT WE PROBABLY NEED MORE
BODIES THERE AND, AGAIN, YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK AFTERWARDS AND
SAY, HEY, LISTEN, WE CAN DO THIS BETTER, ETC.
THANK GOD WE ULTIMATELY DIDN'T GET THE HURRICANE -- I SHOULD
SAY THANK GOODNESS, WE ULTIMATELY DIDN'T GET THE HURRICANE
FOR THAT.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- SO MANY DIFFERENT VOLUNTEER
GROUPS IN TAMPA THAT CAN BE AMASSED TO HELP OUT AT SANDBAG
LOCATIONS.
ROTARY CLUBS.
WE HAD SOMEBODY HERE WITH THE PAST PRESIDENT OF GEORGE
EDGECOMB BAR ASSOCIATION AND I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE A TAMPA
VOLUNTEER CORP.
TAMPA CORP, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT FOR ISSUES
LIKE THIS.
NOT FOR THINGS THAT WILL GET US SUED OR SOMEBODY GO AND PUT
THEMSELVES IN DANGER BUT COMMON THINGS LIKE SANDBAG
LOCATIONS, ETC., WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO HELP.
PEOPLE WANT TO WANT TO HELP, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW, ESPECIALLY
IN A TIME LIKE THIS.
WHEN I WENT OUT THERE, I WAS LOOKING AT THE STORM WE
PROBABLY POTENTIALLY WILL GET HIT.
I WAS IN A LOCATION THAT WAS ELEVATED.
I WANT TO HELP OUT MY FELLOW TAMPANOS IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT
COULD POTENTIALLY GET FLOODED, GOD BLESS THEM.
THE OTHER MOTION -- AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION AT THE END,
SHELTER WITH ANIMALS.
A LOT OF OUR CONSTITUENTS DON'T LEAVE THEIR HOMES IF THEIR
DOG OR CAT DON'T COME WITH THEM.
WITH THE COUNTY WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT ISSUE AND SOMETHING
VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
YOU KNOW THOUSAND TIMES BETTER THAN I DO, BUT WORKING WITH
OUR FRIENDS IN THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND DIFFERENT
ORGANIZATIONS TO START THREE OR FOUR MONTHS BEFORE HURRICANE
SEASON SOME SORT OF A PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN ON, YOU
KNOW, GETTING UP TO DATE WITH YOUR SHOTS, YOUR ANIMALS,
ETC., TO GET THEM OUT TO THE SHELTER, ETC.
I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT AT THE END, BUT, AGAIN, THE
CITY OF TAMPA STAFF WAS REALLY AMAZING.
LIKE REALLY, REALLY AMAZING.
EVERYBODY -- MY HAT IS OFF.
VERY INSPIRING TO SEE AND VERY LUCKY AS A CITY.
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:28:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:28:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU, CHIEF TRIPP AND ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES AND
VOLUNTEERS WHO DID DID WHAT THEY DID TO MAKE YOU SAFE IN A
FORM.
HOWEVER, I LOOK AT THINGS IN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
WHAT IF THAT HURRICANE DIDN'T GO THIS WAY AND THAT WAY.
WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING OF SANDBAGS.
WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT GENERATORS.
THEY WILL BE UNDER WATER.
THE GENERATORS WILL HAD BEEN UNDER WATER.
WHEN OFF STORM OF THAT SIZE THAT COME IN, THAT MOVES THE BAY
AND EACH GALLON OF WATER WEIGHS 8.77 POUNDS.
AND TAKE A TRILLION AND BILLIONS OF WATER OUT, WHAT DOES
THAT TELL YOU IF IT CAME THIS WAY AND IT WOULD HAVE COME
THIS WAY?
WHERE WE SIT AT TODAY, WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN UNDER WATER.
I AM SO SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT TOOK THIS.
THE DISASTER THERE.
THEY SAY 40 TO 50 BILLION, MAYBE MORE THAN THAT, 80 TO 100
BILLION.
IT WILL BE UNBELIEVABLE.
AND I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LOST EVERYTHING AND
SOME INCLUDING THE FAMILY MEMBERS' LIVES.
AND HEROICS OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE OUT THERE PICKING THEM UP
AND TRYING TO SAVE THEM, ALL OF THEM, FROM THE MILITARY,
FROM THE COAST GUARD, FROM EVERYONE WHO DID THE WORK.
FIRE FIGHTERS STATIONED, FIRE STATION UNDER WATER, SIX, SEVEN
FEET OF WATER IN THEM.
A TRAGEDY WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
WE LEARN BY WHAT HAPPENED.
NOW WE HAVE TO APPLY WHAT WE LEARNED INTO A REALITY.
YES, BACK UP FOR THE SANDBAGS.
YES I SAW THEM ON MacDILL AVENUE COMING ALL THE WAY NORTH TO
SPRUCE, SPRUCE, HEADED ALL THE WAY TO -- TO HIMES.
THEY WERE LINED UP.
I SAW A LOT OF CONGESTION THERE, BUT THE PEOPLE GOT ALONG
FINE.
THEY UNDERSTOOD THE EMERGENCY WHAT IS THERE.
YOU CAN PREPARE, BUT SOME PEOPLE EVEN WHEN YOU TELL THEM TO
EVACUATE, THAT YOU HAVE TO EVACUATE, THEY DO NOT LEAVE.
AND THAT HAPPENED IN THIS HURRICANE.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES BECAUSE OF THAT.
I AM NOT SAYING THEY ALL WOULD HAVE, BUT WE NEED TO
UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A -- AN ITEM LIKE THIS, WE ARE
NOT PRACTICING UP ON THIS.
YOU NEVER PRACTICE WHAT IS HAPPENING LIKE THIS.
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE THERE TO PROTECT YOUR
BELONGINGS.
BUT I THINK YOU BETTER START TALKING OF PROTECTING YOUR
LIFE.
WHEN THIS HAPPENS, WE DON'T REALIZE HOW POWERFUL THIS IS IF
YOU CAN DEVASTATE MILES AFTER MILES AND LEAVE IT FLAT.
NOT A BLOCK OR TWO OR MILES AND MILES OF IT.
SO SORRY FOR THOSE PEOPLE AND I WISH I COULD DO SOMETHING TO
HELP THEM OUT.
AND I THINK WE HAVE TO DONATE.
A LOT OF TV STATIONS GIVE AN AMOUNT TO SEND TO THEM.
PUBLIC NEED AND NECESSITY AT THIS TIME TO HELP OUR FELLOW
CITIZENS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS
DONE TO MAKE US AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE.
10:31:48AM >> THANK YOU.
10:31:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:31:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A MOTION?
10:31:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I HAVE INFORMATION THAT CAME IN FROM
CITIZENS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CHIEF HAS IT.
SEVERAL CITIZENS ARE CALLING IN WHO ARE WATCHING SAYING WHY
HAVEN'T WE INVESTED IN POSSIBLY AUTOMATED SANDBAG MACHINES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY, BUT PEOPLE SAY WE
SHOULD BE INVESTING IN THOSE TYPE OF MATERIALS TO HELP OUT
WITH THIS SITUATION.
I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
THAT CITIZENS ARE WATCHING.
THEY ARE PAYING ATTENTION.
AND RECEIVED THREE CALLS ON THIS.
10:32:19AM >> ACTUALLY THAT IS ON OUR LIST ON AFTER ACTION TO GET AN
AMMIC -- FOR VOLUNTEERS.
WE HAVE OUR PROGRAM AND A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS ARE OUT THERE
WORKING AS WELL.
SOMETHING ELSE I DIDN'T TALK -- I WILL LET THE REST OF YOU
FINISH, BUT LAW ENFORCEMENT, CHIEF O'CONNOR HAD HER
PERSONNEL OUT THERE.
ALL THE EVACUATION WENT TO THEIR HOMES MULTIPLE TIMES AND
THEY DID, LIKE, CLOSE TO 100,000 PEOPLE -- RESIDENTS AS FAR
AS TELLING THEM YOU ARE IN AN EVACUATION ZONE.
10:32:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:32:52AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
TO THE -- TO THE POINTS THAT WERE JUST MENTIONED.
AS SOON AS WE SAW THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET HIT IN SOME WAY,
I STARTED GETTING E-MAILS AND CALLS SAYING ARE WE GOING TO
HAVE THE SLOW SANDBAG DISTRIBUTION THIS YEAR OR MACHINES.
PEOPLE SAID THEY HAVE BEEN ASKING EVERY TIMES TO GET THE
MACHINES TO SANDBAG.
AND PEOPLE WERE VERY FRUSTRATED.
YOU SAW THE NEWS OF THE LINES AND EVERYTHING.
THE -- I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE FOLKS INSIDE THE
CITY AND OUT WHO WORKED HARD AND DIDN'T SLEEP.
I SAW SOME OF THE PICTURES AND LOOKED LIKE PEOPLE WERE
TIRED.
AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR -- THANK YOU, NICOLE FOR
SLEEPING ON A COT.
SO THANKS TO EVERYBODY.
AND THE COMMENTS I HAVE ARE NOT GOING TO BE DIRECTED TO
ANYBODY WHO WORKED ON THAT AND TO YOU, CHIEF.
BUT I -- I THINK WE NEED TO IMPROVE COMMUNICATION WITH THE
PUBLIC.
MOST OF MY -- I REPRESENT SOUTH TAMPA.
MOST OF MY DISTRICT IS IN EVACUATION ZONE A.
MY HOUSE IS IN EVACUATION ZONE A.
I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE EVACUATION BY SOMEONE CONTACTING ME TO
THE COUNTY.
AND ONLY THREE OR FOUR HOURS LATE THEIR THE CITY SENT
ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
SURE, THE CITY CAN ONLY SEND THINGS OUT WHEN IT WAS
APPROVED, BUT A LACK OF COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC AND A
LACK OF COMMUNICATION WITH COUNCIL.
I TRACK SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS FOR SEVERAL CITIES.
ON THE MORNING AFTER THE -- THE EVENT, ST. PETERSBURG
STARTED POSTING 8 OR 9:00 IN THE MORNING WHAT TO DO AFTER
THE STORM.
HOW TO CLEAN UP WHEN YOUR TRASH -- IT WAS THREE OR FOUR
HOURS LATE THEIR TAMPA STARTED TO PUSH SOME THINGS OUT AND
IT WASN'T NEARLY ENOUGH.
I STARTED ASKING PEOPLE FOR INFORMATION SO WE CAN INFORM THE
PUBLIC.
THROUGH OUR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS, WE HAVE THE ABILITY
TO REACH OUT TO THOUSAND OF PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC.
AND WE ARE GETTING CALLS AND E-MAILS, SURE WE CAN DIRECT
THEM TO A HOTLINE.
AND THEY EXPECT US TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THESE THINGS.
NOW THAT WE -- A HURRICANE -- IF YOU LIVE IN FLORIDA,
UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS A REOCCURRING ISSUE.
WE KNOW THE TIMELINE OF WHAT HAPPENS IN A HURRICANE.
AND SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THE COMMUNICATION ASSETS
AND PUT IT IN A PLAN SO WE SAY 48 HOURS BEFORE, HERE IS THE
COMMUNICATION ASSETS WE SEND OUT.
TEN HOURS, FIVE HOURS, THE ASSETS WE SEND OUT.
THE QUESTION -- I LOOKED AT THE SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT AGAIN.
I CAN'T SEE IT IF I MISSED IT, I APOLOGIZE.
THE SANITATION PEOPLE WERE GREAT AT PICKING UP GARBAGE.
THEY PUT A SPECIAL DAY.
THEY WENT THROUGH AND COMMUNICATED THAT.
BUT THE TRASH ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD IS STILL THERE
THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS I HAVE BEEN THROUGH.
AND PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN IT IS GOING TO GET
PICKED UP.
AND NEEDS TO BE BETTER COMMUNICATION.
THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT AND SOME COMMUNICATION ALTHOUGH
THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT SLOW.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL PICK UP.
PROVIDING A HAZARD BECAUSE CARS ARE ALMOST HITTING EACH
OTHER DRIVING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS.
PEDESTRIANS ARE TRYING TO NAVIGATE IT.
THE OTHER THING -- THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT
A CRISIS LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY THE FACT THAT WE MIGHT HAVE
HAD A KATRINA OR SOMETHING IN TAMPA, MAYBE WHAT HAPPENED IN
FORT MYERS COULD HAVE HAPPENED IN TAMPA.
AND IN MY DISTRICT, IT -- IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SET
POLITICS ASIDE.
SHOULDN'T BE A TIME WHEN WE HAVE POLITICAL ISSUES.
WHAT I FELT LIKE -- SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES FELT
LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL SET ASIDE, WE WERE PROVIDED ALMOST NO
INFORMATION.
IF THE PRESIDENT AND THE GOVERNOR WHO DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER
CAN GET TOGETHER AND HAVE COMMUNICATION, HOW COME IN -- IT
IS MY DISTRICT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE HARDEST HIT.
I DIDN'T GET A SINGLE PHONE CALL FROM ANYONE.
TWO OR THREE TEXT FROM THE CHIEF OF STAFF WITH VERY LITTLE
INFORMATION.
I GOT THE DAILY UPDATES.
BESIDE THAT.
I NEVER HAVE BEEN IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FACILITY
EITHER.
NEVER HAVE BEEN INVITED.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT GOING THERE, ABOUT YOU WE NEED BETTER
COMMUNICATION, BECAUSE WE ARE HALF THE GOVERNMENT.
JUST BECAUSE WE GO UNDER AN EMERGENCY ORDER -- I AM NOT
DIRECTING THIS TO YOU -- I AM JUST LOOKING THAT WAY.
THERE HAS TO BE A PROTOCOL THAT JUST BECAUSE WE ARE IN AN
EMERGENCY SITUATION DOESN'T MEAN THAT CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T
EXIST.
WE STILL HAVE HALF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY.
AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THESE ISSUES.
I THINK WE NEED A COMMUNICATION PLAN.
IF WE CAN DO VIDEOS OF THE MAYOR AND HER DOG ON BAYSHORE, WE
CAN COMMUNICATE WITH CITY COUNCIL.
AND I WOULD LIKE -- IT IS A COMPLETELY FAIR SITUATION.
I DIDN'T GET A SINGLE PHONE CALL FROM ANYBODY.
YOU WERE INVITED TO THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CENTER.
10:37:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LET ME DIRECT CORRECT YOU.
I WAS NOT INVITED.
I MADE THE EFFORT TO CALL.
I MADE -- I WANTED TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERYTHING.
NO I WASN'T INVITED.
10:38:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ADMINISTRATION CHOOSE THEIR FAVORITES AND
THEY IGNORE EVERYBODY ELSE.
10:38:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, PLEASE.
YOUR FIVE MINUTES IS UP.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:38:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK THAT ALL OF OUR -- ALL OF MY
COLLEAGUES HAVE MADE INCREDIBLE POINTS.
SO I AM NOT GOING TO REITERATE THE POINTS EXCEPT TO SAY
THANK YOU FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE THERE AND FOR ALL OF OUR
FIRST VERY RESPONDERS WHO DID AN AMAZING JOB FROM EVERYTHING
THAT I CAN SEE.
COMMUNICATION COULD BE BETTER.
BUT WHAT I AM -- I AM INTERESTED IN MOST IS I KNOW THAT YOUR
TEAMS ARE GETTING TOGETHER AND ALL OF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT DIDN'T WORK.
WHAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED.
WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IS WHEN YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION,
MAYBE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL ON THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL
RECOGNIZED AND WHATS THAT BEEN MENTIONED TODAY AND HOW WE
SEE WE ARE GOING TO IMPROVE THAT.
THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LOVE.
THE OTHER THING I KNOW THAT WE WILL PROBABLY GET BUT
OBVIOUSLY NOT ANY TIME SOON.
I REALLY WANT THE DATA OF WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE WHEN IT HIT
FORT MYERS BECAUSE IT -- THAT AREA IS VERY SIMILAR.
WE HAVE THE BAY.
WE HAVE THE RIVERS GOING UP.
WHAT DID THE FLOOD LOOK LIKE.
WHERE DID IT ACTUALLY HIT.
THE HEIGHT AND HOW DEEP DID IT GO IN.
WHEN YOU SEE PICTURES ON MEDIA, ALWAYS THE COAST, LIKE THE
MOST DAMAGE THAT THEY CAN SHOW.
AND I KNOW SOME OF THAT IS SENSATIONALIZED BUT JUST TO SHOW
WHAT ABSOLUTELY HAVOC OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE COAST, BUT
THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE DON'T LIVE ON THE COAST EXACTLY.
SO WHAT DID -- WHAT DID THE STORM -- WHAT DID THE FLOODING
LOOK LIKE THERE?
AND HOW CAN WE USE IT HERE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT KIND OF
STORM WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE HERE.
I KNOW WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO DO THAT.
THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IN THE NEXT -- HOWEVER MUCH
TIME WE CAN DO IT.
AND I AM SURE FOLKS ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT I
WOULD LOVE A PRESENTATION TO THE COUNCIL ON JUST -- YOU
KNOW, HOW WE CAN TAKE WHAT UNFORTUNATELY HAPPENED IN THE
FORT MYERS AREA AND WHAT WE CAN LEARN FROM THAT TO MAKE SURE
-- OUR RESPONSE BETTER AS WE GO.
AND I WOULD LOVE -- I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA IF ALL OF US
GOT A TOUR OF THE AREA -- OF THE -- OF THE EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT CENTER JUST SO WE KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND
WHAT WE COULD DO IN THE FUTURE AND HOW WE CAN MAYBE LIKE A
QUICK WAY THAT ALL OF US CAN GET INFORMATION SO WE CAN SEND
IT OUT BECAUSE WE DID GET A LOT OF PHONE CALLS.
A LOT OF E-MAILS.
ALL THAT -- SOCIAL MEDIA WAS HUGE.
I TRIED -- I JUST RETWEETED AND RESHARED EVERYTHING 245 THAT
THE CITY PUT OUT.
THAT WAS ALL I COULD DO.
WHAT ELSE COULD WE DO.
I DIDN'T WANT TO BOTHER PEOPLE AT THE TEAM.
INFORMATION LIKE THAT WILL BE WONDERFULLY HELPFUL.
THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
I KNOW YOU ARE ALREADY DOING IT.
I KNOW YOU ARE THINKING HOW CAN WE IMPROVE.
BUT IF WE CAN KNOW THAT TOO, THAT WILL BE VERY WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU.
10:41:14AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I WILL SEND AN INVITE TO ALL OF YOU AND
ESCORT YOU TO THE EOC SO YOU CAN SEE IT.
JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO TRY -- BEFORE THE
CHAIR COMMENT.
WHEN WE TALK OF INFORMATION GETTING OUT, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY,
WE STARTED LIKE TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE.
I KNOW PEOPLE WILL CALL AND PEOPLE WILL SEND TEXTS AND SAY I
DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO.
LIKE I SAID, WHEN IT COMES TO EVACUATION, WE CAN'T FORCE
ANYONE TO LEAVE.
WE HAVE BEEN KNOCKING ON DOORS AND I KNOW FOR SURE WE HAD
MEDIA COVERAGE FROM SUNDAY ALL THE WAY UNTIL THURSDAY.
I MEAN TWICE A DAY, INFORMING THE COMMUNITY, BEGGING AND
PLEADING INDIVIDUALS TO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE LEAVE.
I KNOW ALREADY LESSONS LEARNED THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM THIS
AND THE DEVASTATION DOWN THERE WE NEVER WILL KNOW EXACTLY
THE NULL DETAILS.
WE CAN GO BY PICTURES AND STUFF, BUT THE BIGGEST THING I
BELIEVE THE COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN GOOD TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE CAN DO MORE AND AS FAR AS COMMUNICATION WITH YOU GUYS, AS
LONG AS I'M HERE, YOU WILL GET AN EMAIL AND PHONE CALL FOR
YOU MOVING FORWARD.
HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE ANYMORE BUT WE WILL LET YOU KNOW.
10:42:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. SHELBY, MAKE IT QUICK.
10:42:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
INVITATIONS AS AN INDIVIDUAL OR A GROUP.
10:42:33AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
HOVER YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO SEND IT.
10:42:37AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF IT IS A GROUP WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE
SUNSHINE LAW AND CONFINES.
A SPACE THAT YOU MAY NOT WANT TO NECESSARILY HAVE THE PUBLIC
THERE.
SO WE WILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
10:42:48AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I WILL TAKE THE NOTE.
10:42:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I AM ASKING THAT YOU INCLUDE ME IN THE
PROCESS TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS DONE ACCORDING --
10:42:57AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YES, SIR.
10:42:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, CHIEF.
10:42:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
CHIEF, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU TO FIRE.
THANK YOU TO POLICE WHO HAD TO WORK 12 HOURS ON, 12 HOURS
OUT.
THANK YOU TO EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD WHO COULD HAVE BEEN WITH
THEIR FAMILIES AND INSTEAD WERE DOWN AT THE EOC.
THANK YOU TO PARKS AND RECREATION FOR HELPING OUR CITIZENS.
THE SAND THAT WAS BROUGHT IN FOR THE SANDBAGS STILL HAD
BEACH GRASS IN IT.
WE COULDN'T FILL UP THOSE BAGS FAST ENOUGH.
I WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE WHO WERE OUT THERE VOLUNTEERING,
THE COMMON SENSE WHO ROLLED UP THEIR SLEEVES AND HELPED FILL
THOSE SANDBAGS.
I WANT TO THANK PEOPLE WHO TOOK WATER AND FOOD TO THEIR
NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THEIR ELECTRICITY WAS OUT.
I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY IN THIS CITY WHO HELPED EVERYBODY
ELSE OUT.
AND THANK YOU TO OUR FAMILY, THE CITY EMPLOYEES THAT WERE
THERE FOR THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA THANK YOU, CHIEF.
10:44:15AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
THANK YOU ALL.
10:44:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AT THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF YOU ARE WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE FORM A LINE ON MY LEFT,
YOUR RIGHT.
10:44:28AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE TO SAY -- I NEVER LIKE TO
PERSONALIZE ANYTHING BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY GROWING UP, MY
FATHER WAS AN OBNOXIOUS PIG.
MY FATHER WAS AN OBNOXIOUS PIG.
WHY IS THAT?
ALTHOUGH HE HAD A SCHEDULE -- WE HAD A SCHEDULE WHEN WE CAN
HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR MOTHER, HE USED TO BREAK
THE SCHEDULE.
THAT IS WHAT OBNOXIOUS PEOPLE DO.
SO ALTHOUGH IT IS A SCHEDULE HERE FOR WHEN THE PUBLIC CAN
SPEAK, SOMEBODY BREAKS THE SCHEDULE.
AND NOBODY HAVE THE COURAGE TO STAND UP AND CHALLENGE THEM.
BUT MY FATHER NEVER RESPECTED US BECAUSE HE WAS ON OBNOXIOUS
BIG.
AND SOMEBODY DON'T RESPECT THE PEOPLE.
PEOPLE GETTING UP AND WALKING OUT BECAUSE SAT HERE SINCE
9:00 THIS MORNING.
BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS -- IN THE OBNOXIOUS PIG CATEGORY AND NO
RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE, THE CITIZENS WHO PAY FOR PARKING, TO
GET PARKING TICKETS TO COME DOWN HERE AND SAY WHAT THEY GOT
TO SAY.
AND CLOWNS TALKING ABOUT SANDBAGS.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT NO SANDBAGS AND DON'T CARE ABOUT THE
HURRICANE.
WHITE PEOPLE HAVE MADE A PROFITABLE BUSINESS TALKING ABOUT
WHO WENT WHERE AND WHO WENT WHERE ALL OF THOSE WHITE FOLKS
GETTING PAID!
MAJOR PAY.
YOU HEARD WHAT THE PERSON SAY.
50% OF THE BREAST CANCER AWARENESS THINGS GOES TO RESEARCH,
THE OTHER 85% NOBODY KNOWS.
WHITE FOLKS GETTING PAID.
NOBODY CARE ABOUT THAT.
WHAT WE CARE ABOUT IN THIS CITY, WHAT WE CARE ABOUT AS
AFRICAN PEOPLE AND WHAT WE HAVE TO CARE ABOUT AND THE ONLY
THING WE CARE ABOUT IS REPARATIONS.
THAT IS THE ONLY THING WE CARE ABOUT.
WE HAVE HAD PERRY HARVEY.
WE HAD GWEN MILLER.
WE HAD KEVIN WHITE.
REVEREND THOMAS SCOTT.
FRANK REDDICK.
NOW ORLANDO GUDES AND NOT ONE WORD OF THESE BLACK CLOWNS,
THESE BLACK FOOLS EVER MENTIONED THE WORD "REPARATIONS."
THEY TALK ABOUT PARKS.
THEY TALK OF RECREATION.
THEY TALK OF SAY NO TO DRUG.
SAY NO TO GUN VIOLENCE.
BUT WHITE FOLKS OWE US FOR 400 YEARS OF FREE LABOR.
AND WE ARE GOING TO STOP CALLING IT FREE LABOR.
BECAUSE IT IS NOT FREE AND WE WANT TO GET PAID FOR IT.
PETITION WANT TO GET PAID FOR IT!
OBNOXIOUS.
SCARY.
COWARDS.
DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
NO RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE AND ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NO
RESPECT FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
NONE!
AFRICAN PEOPLE IN THIS CITY WHERE 26% OF THE POPULATION,
THEY ARE TRYING TO DEPOPULATE US, GIVE US VOUCHERS TO GO IN
LIVE IN OTHER PLACES THAT BLACK PEOPLE HAVE NEVER SEEN.
DOING ALL KIND OF IGNORANT STUFF TO AFRICAN PEOPLE AND WANT
US TO ACCEPT IT.
WE DON'T CARE OF YOUR HURRICANE AND SANDBAGS.
10:47:42AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN.
I WANTED MR. SHELBY TO READ THE RULES BECAUSE CERTAIN
COUNCILMEMBERS DID TALK ABOUT THAT.
PLEASE READ THE RULES BECAUSE I DON'T -- DON'T WANT THE --
THE CHAIRMAN SETS THE PACE OF THE COUNCIL AND I WILL MAKE --
SOME COUNCILMEMBERS ASKED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:48:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT WAS HEARD.
THE AGENDA ITEM THAT THE CHIEF OF STAFF WANTED TO BRING ON
DURING CEREMONIAL AND PRESENTATION.
AND I AGREED WITH HIM.
SO WE ALREADY HEARD HOW OBNOXIOUS I AM.
SO THAT -- THAT IS FINE, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:48:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT, I WANT THE PUBLIC
TO KNOW THERE IS A SCHEDULE AND YOU ARE THE CHAIRMAN.
10:48:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THE LONGER WE TALK ABOUT THIS, THE MORE TIME
WE ARE WASTING FOR THE PUBLIC.
10:48:31AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALSO MR. CHAIRMAN -- MR. DANIELS, I RECALL
BACK IN 2019 YOU BROUGHT UP REPARATIONS, I REMEMBER I HAD MY
AIDE COME WITH THE WEBSTER DICTIONARY AND SPOKE WITH
REPARATIONS.
REPARATIONS HAVE BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT, SIR.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:48:47AM >> SURE HARD TO FOLLOW THAT.
DO I HAVE -- MY NAME IS KEN WISE.
10:48:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, PLEASE, GAVE US YOUR NAME.
10:49:01AM >> I LIVE --
10:49:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT WAS YOUR NAME?
10:49:05AM >> KEN WISE.
10:49:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, SIR.
10:49:07AM >> YOU HAD THE PERSON TALKING ABOUT HOW THE HURRICANE WENT
AND ALL THAT.
A LOT ON SANDBAGS.
HE EVEN MENTIONED IT.
AND MY ISSUE IS TREES.
I LIKE TREES.
TREES ARE GOOD.
WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM.
YOU HAVE A TREE HUGGING DEPARTMENT.
AND YOU HAVE A HEAD TREE HUGGER WHO IS AN ARBORIST.
AND IF THE TREES THAT WE HAVE THAT MAKE UP THE CANOPY IN
THIS TOWN WERE BEING RUN BY A PRIVATE COMPANY TO HARVEST THE
LUMBER, ALL THE TREES HAVE LONG PAST THEIR HARVEST DATE.
WE DODGED A BULLET ON THIS ONE.
WE DODGED A BULLET FIVE YEARS AGO.
WE MIGHT NOT BE THAT LUCKY THE NEXT TIME.
IF WE GET A HURRICANE COME RIGHT UP TAMPA WITH
150-MILE-PER-HOUR SUSTAINED WINDS, IT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE
A TORNADO WENT THROUGH AN IDAHO CORNFIELD.
YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE TREES GOING OVER HOUSES,
POWER LINES.
IT WILL BE LIKE PUERTO RICO BEING OUT FOR MONTHS WITHOUT
POWER AND ALL THE HOUSES.
PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO BE WORRIED ABOUT WATER COMING
UNDERNEATH THE DOORJAMB WHEN THEIR WHOLE HOUSE HAS BEEN
TAKEN OUT BY A TREE THAT YOU WON'T LET THEM CUT DOWN.
I SUGGEST WHAT YOU DO IS YOU GET WITH THE TREE HUGGING
DEPARTMENT AND SAY, HEY, THESE ARE ALL WATER OAKS THAT ARE
PAST THEIR DUE DATE.
WATER OAKS ARE GOOD FOR 7000 YEARS, LONG PAST THAT.
SAY WE HAVE GOT TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NOT TO
KEEP THE TREES UP BUT TO CUT THEM DOWN.
YOU CAN ALWAYS PLANT NEW TREES.
BUT WE ARE LUCKY THE NEXT HURRICANE COMES THROUGH, IF IT
COMES THROUGH AND GOES RIGHT THROUGH TAMPA, IT WILL DESTROY
THIS CITY.
THAT'S IT.
10:51:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
10:51:13AM >> HI, MY NAME IS DAVE COLEMAN.
TOPIC IS ON TRAFFIC AND HURRICANES, ECO AND CLIMATE CHANGE IS
ALL MY THING.
BUT NOT WHAT I CAME TO TALK ABOUT.
I HAVE TO THANK YOU FOR SAYING PREPARATION, DISASTER
RESILIENCE IS ONE THING AFTER THE FACT.
BUT PREPARATION, WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR IS SOMETHING THAT
THE CITY NEEDS TO DO AND THOSE COAL ASH PILES AND GYPSUM
STACKS WITH A 15-FOOT SURGE WOULD HAVE INUNDATED PROGRESS
VILLAGE.
WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY FREAKING HORRIBLE.
WHAT I CAME TO TALK ABOUT -- I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS
ORGANIZING AROUND THE CAHOOTS PROGRAM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO
SEE BUT A SOCIAL RIDE-ALONG.
THE SOCIAL RIDE-ALONG WORKER PROGRAM THAT IS UP FOR
DISCUSSION I BELIEVE FOR TODAY.
IS THAT RIGHT?
YES.
SO IT SEEMS TO BE -- SEEMS TO BE CUT IN HALF.
I WROTE A THING, BUT I AM JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT.
I HAVE BEEN ATTENDING AS WELL AS SOME OF YOU HAVE, THE GUN
-- THE STOP GUN VIOLENCE LISTENING SESSIONS STARTED BY CHIEF
DELGADO AND CONTINUED BY MARY O'CONNOR.
AT HER FIRST ONE, SHE ANNOUNCED THAT -- THAT THE INCREASED
GUN VIOLENCE IN TAMPA WAS DUE TO TRAUMA.
THE TRAUMA OF TWO YEARS OF COVID AND TWO YEARS OF CIVIL
UNREST.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SENTENCE MEANS, BUT THAT IS EXACTLY
WHAT SHE SAYS.
BUT OBVIOUSLY THOSE WOULD BE SOCIAL ISSUES, NOT A LITIGATING
AND POLICE ISSUE.
THE CAHOOTS PROGRAM THAT WAS BEGUN IN EUGENE IS -- IS A
FORMAT THAT ALREADY EXISTS.
I ASKED AT THAT MEETING THAT CHIEF O'CONNOR WENT TO AT THE
FIRST MEETING SAYING ANYTHING LIKE A CAHOOTS PROGRAM GOING
ON I WASN'T AWARE AND APPARENTLY IT WAS GOING ON FOR SIX
MONTHS AND DEFERRED TO AN ASSISTANT CHIEF AND TO AN OFFICER
AND YES THE PROGRAM IS WORKING AND HE SAID I HAVE REALLY
GOOD RESULTS AND KNAVE ANECDOTES IN THE COMMUNITY.
HE SAID IT IS WORKING.
BUT SUBSEQUENTLY AT ANOTHER GUN VIOLENCE EVENT, I ASKED HOW
IS IT GOING.
HE SAID WE ARE NOT DOING MUCH.
WE ARE DESIGNING OUR OWN PROGRAM.
WE ARE NOT COPYING WHAT THEY ARE DO?
ST. PETE.
NOT COPYING WHAT THEY DID IN EUGENE THAT SAVING POLICE
DEPARTMENTS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND OBVIOUSLY
LIVES ALSO.
MY WHOLE IDEA IS -- THE REASON FOR BEING HERE IS THAT, YOU
KNOW, SOCIAL JUSTICE AND THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO IS --
HERE IS THE THING.
O'CONNOR KEEPS ASKING FOR THE COMMUNITY TO TRUST HER, TO
TRUST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IF WE SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.
WELL, SHE NEEDS TO NOT DEMAND TRUST FROM US BUT MAYBE TURN
IT AROUND AND -- AND SHOW US SOMETHING.
WHAT ABOUT -- ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED TO GIVE THE
CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD A LAWYER.
ONE THING WOULD BE NOT TAKE AWAY HALF THE MONEY OF THIS
CAHOOTS PROGRAM AND INCREASE THE MONEY FOR THE CAHOOTS
PROGRAM.
DOUBLE IT.
GET SOCIAL WORKERS OUT THERE.
THIS IS THE BEGINNING HAVING SOCIAL WORKERS RIDE WITH POLICE
OFFICERS.
WE IN MY COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOCIAL WORKERS GO OUT
ON THEIR OWN AS THE CAHOOTS PROGRAM WAS.
IF YOU DO A LITTLE RESEARCH AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS ABOUT,
IT --
10:54:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
10:54:44AM >> WE NEED TO NOT LITIGATE AGAINST SOCIAL AND MENTAL HEALTH
PROBLEMS.
10:54:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. COLEMAN.
WE ALL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:54:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS FRANK TRAINOR.
I AM A CURRENT RESIDENT OF WEST TAMPA, AND I COME FROM A
LONG LINE OF WEST TAMPA NATIVES ALL THE WAY THROUGH MY GREAT
GRANDPARENTS.
I AM ONE OF THE GUYS PROUD OF THE CULTURE AND CHARACTER AND
TRADITIONS OF WEST TAMPA.
ONE OF THOSE LONG-TIME TRADITIONS HAVE BEEN THREATENED AND I
AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY, AND WHY NOW.
THIS PAST SUNDAY BEFORE THE CHIEFS GAME -- I LIVE BY THE
STADIUM, THIS PAST SUNDAY BEFORE THE CHIEFS GAME,
REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PARKING DIVISION WERE GOING
THROUGHOUT THE STREETS AND GIVING OUT THESE PREPRINTED
WARNINGS FOR PARKING IN A CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY.
AND I WAS TOLD THAT FOUR CARS IN MY YARD, IN MY HOUSE
WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PARK THERE.
AND EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE CLEARLY IN MY DRIVEWAY FOUR FEET
FROM THE STREET, CLEARLY.
THEY ARE NOT EVEN IN THE STREET.
AND I WAS TOLD TO IMAGINE THAT THERE WAS A SIDEWALK THERE.
BUT THERE IS NO SIDEWALKS.
THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS ANYWHERE NEAR.
IF THERE WERE SIDEWALKS IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY.
IT WOULD BE OKAY.
I WOULD ABIDE.
NO PROBLEM.
AND SO WILL A LOT OF THE OTHER RESIDENTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO REFERENCE AN ARTICLE IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES
FROM 2021.
CALLED MY TAMPA, MY WEST TAMPA YARD IS YOUR PARKING SPACE.
IN THIS ARTICLE, IT SAYS FOR AS LONG AS THERE HAVE BEEN BUCS
IN A STADIUM FOR THEM TO PLAY IN, WEST TAMPA HAS BEEN A PART
OF A GRASS-ROOTS ENTREPRENEURIAL ENTERPRISE BLESSED LONG AGO
BY CITY OFFICIALS.
HOMES IN WEST TAMPA NEAR RAYMOND JAMES HAVE LONG AND LEGALLY
SOLD PARKING SPACES FOR BUCCANEER GAMES.
I LIVED ON AILEEN STREET FOR SEVEN YEARS AN ENJOYED THIS
PARKING TRADITION WITH MY NEIGHBORS.
MANY HAVE BEEN SINCE THE '60s AND SINCE THE BUCS.
THEY LIVE FOR THIS.
THEY PUT THEIR VESTS ON AND MAKE THEIR SIGNS WHICH ARE
TERRIBLE AN AMAZING AT THE SAME TIME.
THEY MAKE AND TAKE TURNS WAVING CARS IN AND THIS HE MAKE
THEIR MONEY.
THEY USE IT FOR BUYING CHRISTMAS GIFTS, BUYING MONEY FOR
THEIR GRANDKIDS, MEDICINE OR WHATEVER.
BUT A NICE CHUNK OF CHANGE THEY WILL LOSE BECAUSE OF THIS
POLICY.
AGAIN WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME WITH NO
PROBLEMS.
LET'S NOT FORGET THE SACRIFICES THESE RESIDENTS MAKE LIVING
ACROSS THE STADIUM WITH TRASH AND ALL THIS STUFF.
AGAIN WE HAD SUPER BOWLS, BIG EVENTS.
NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS.
THIS IS A LOCAL TRADITION THAT ADDS TO THE CHARACTER OF WEST
TAMPA AND ADDS TO THE GAME DAY EXPERIENCE.
WALKING TO THE GAME.
I HAVE MY FRIENDS OVER AND NOW I HAVE TO TELL FOUR CARS TO
PARK SOMEWHERE ELSE AND I AM DONE AT MY HOUSE WE WALK TO THE
GAME.
GO DOWN THE SIDEWALK AND WE SEE OTHER FRIENDS THAT WE KNOW
ALONG THE WAY.
THAT IS WHAT WEST TAMPA IS ABOUT.
THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE SAME SPOT FOR YEARS AND YEARS IN THE
SAME SPOT TAILGATING.
I AM ASKING YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS.
WHY WE ARE DOING THIS NOW.
WE NEVER HAVE PROBLEMS.
WE CAN GO ELSEWHERE AND SEE THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE
CITY.
PLEASE LET US DO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING.
IF YOU BUILD US SIDEWALKS, IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:58:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:58:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING THE FACTS.
LET ME GO BACK -- I AM NOT TRYING TO GO BACK A MILLION
YEARS, BUT I WILL GO BACK TO THE DICK GRECO ADMINISTRATION
AGAIN.
WHEN ALL THIS STARTED, THEY DIDN'T ALLOW ANYBODY TO PARK ON
YOUR HOUSE -- ON YOUR LAND.
AND WE LOOKED AT IT 25 YEARS AGO, AND AT THAT TIME, WE SAID
WHAT HAPPENS, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WHEN THERE IS AN
EVENT -- IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FOOTBALL GAME, WHEN THERE
IS AN EVENT, NO MATTER A CONCERT OR MONSTER -- WHATEVER YOU
WOULD LIKE TO CALL THEM.
ALL THAT STUFF IS THERE.
SO WE CAME UP THAT YOU COULD PARK ON YOUR LAND.
PARK ON YOUR LAND.
WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW, THEY ARE SAYING THAT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
PART OF THE CITY, NOT THE STREET, BUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WHICH
IS USUALLY THE POLE -- THIS IS -- AGAIN, A POLE -- ELECTRIC
POLE COMPANY THAT THAT PART BETWEEN THE POLE AND THE STREET
BELONGS TO THE CITY.
BUT THEY DON'T TELL YOU THE OTHER SIDE, THE CITY NEVER
CLEANS THAT.
YOU GUYS CLEAN THAT.
SO WE MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS -- AND I HAVE
BEEN ON THIS NOW FOR TWO DAYS.
PEOPLE ARE CALLING ME.
I WENT TO SEE PEOPLE YESTERDAY.
3303, 3305 AND TALKED TO THEM AT LENGTH.
I HAVE A COPY OF THAT, BUT I LEFT THAT AT THE HOUSE AND I
NEED A COPY OF THAT.
10:59:31AM >> OF THE VIOLATION?
YOU CAN HAVE IT.
10:59:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I NEED A COPY OF IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHO SENT THEM OUT THERE, BUT THEY ARE DEAD
WRONG.
WHAT THEY DO NOT ALLOW YOU TO DO IS PARK ON THE STREET
BECAUSE THE STREETS ARE SO NARROW THAT A FIRE TRUCK AND
AMBULANCE CANNOT GET BY.
THAT I UNDERSTAND.
BUT ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE ALL
OF YOU WHO LIVE THERE, INCLUDING MYSELF, ARE DEPRIVED OF
USING YOUR OWN CITY STREETS, YOUR OWN OPERATION, YOUR
DISCOMFORT.
WHEN I COME IN FROM OLDSMAR FROM NOVEMBER TO MAY, GUESS
WHAT, I CAN'T GO HOME.
I CAN'T TURN ON CARGO ROAD.
I CAN'T TURN ON HIMES.
BECAUSE THEY DON'T LET ME MAKE A LEFT-HAND TURN ON HIMES
AND MLK.
I NEED TO GO BACK TO DALE MABRY, ALL THE WAY TO SPRUCE, GO
ALL THE WAY AROUND, COME BACK THERE TO GET TO MY HOUSE.
OR GO ALL THE WAY TO ARMENIA TO COME AROUND -- YOU HAVE BEEN
TAKING CARE OF THAT FOR A LONG TIME.
ALL THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
AND NOW THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO USE IT.
THAT WAS DONE TO ELIMINATE THE STRESS THAT THE PEOPLE --
BECAUSE ANY TIME THERE IS AN EVENT OF SOME SORT THAT DRAWS
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, YOU ARE THE ONES THAT ARE DISCRIMINATED
ACROSS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET TO YOUR OWN HOUSE.
THAT IS WHY WE DID THAT.
AND I AM SURE GRECO WOULD COME HERE AND SAY EXACTLY WHAT
HAPPENED.
I DON'T KNOW WHO GAVE THAT ORDER.
I PROMISE YOU -- THEY DIDN'T DO IT ON THEIR OWN.
11:00:59AM >> HE TOLD ME IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ANOTHER 15 FEET IN.
11:01:03AM >> THAT IS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:01:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM TRYING TO TELL YOU I DON'T KNOW WHO
THE EINSTEIN WHO DID THAT BUT THE BRAIN THE SIZE OF AN ANT.
11:01:11AM >> I HEAR IT WAS A NONRESIDENT WHO COMPLAINED.
QUICKLY ONE ISSUE -- OF ALL THE TIMES I HAVE BEEN ON THE
BLOCK, ONE ISSUE WHERE A CAR WAS PARKED ON THE STREET AND WE
NEVER WOULD SEE THAT.
I CALLED THE CITY TO SEE -- I CALLED THE CITY BECAUSE --
THAT ONE CAR WAS IMPEDING WALKING TRAFFIC IN THE STREET.
AND THEY SAID THEY COULD DO NOTHING ABOUT IT.
11:01:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THIS IS AN UPROAR THAT STARTED OVER
NOTHING AND HAS BEEN LIKE THAT FOR 25 YEARS.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY WANT TO DO THAT BUT DON'T GO AFTER
THE AISLE LEGAL HOUSES -- FOUR APARTMENTS IN THEM.
YOU CAN'T GET IN YOUR HELP BECAUSE OF THAT.
BUT DON'T GO AFTER THOSE, GO AFTER THE LITTLE GUY WHO THEY
CAN PICK ON.
11:01:50AM >> I'M HERE FOR ALL THE OLDER RESIDENTS WHO COULDN'T BE
HERE.
THANK YOU.
11:01:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WANT COPIES OF THAT FOR THE COUNCIL.
11:01:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:02:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:02:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUST TO FOLLOW-UP ON WHAT COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA SAID.
I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS THROUGH MR. NOVEMBERO WHO WILL BE
COMING UP TO SPEAKS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. NOVO.
I HEARD THAT THE INDIVIDUAL GOING OUT ISSUING THE WARNING
SEVERAL WEEKS AGO SAID THIS IS YOUR CITY COUNCILMAN WHO DID
THIS.
I DIDN'T DO THIS.
I DO PAY ATTENTION.
I KNOW WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING UP HERE.
THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME WAS EDGAR, I COME TO FIND OUT.
I TALKED TO VIK UP IN PARKING AND WHAT HE SAID THIS WAS A --
A DEPARTMENTAL DECISION.
IT DIDN'T COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
WE DIDN'T MAKE THIS DECISION TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
THEY TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES AFTER RECEIVING SOME
COMPLAINTS, BUT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS BEEN IN THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD 60 YEARS.
YOU KNOW, NOBODY KNOWS IT BETTER THAN HIM.
YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO EARN A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY ON
THEIR PROPERTY.
AS HE SAID, ON PARCELS THAT ARE USED DURING GAMES AND
EVENTS.
NOT A DAILY OCCURRENCE THAT THE PEOPLE ARE TAKEN CARE OF.
NOT THE CITY COMING OUT AND MOWING THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
PEOPLE ARE TAKING CARE OF THAT AND EARNING MONEY ON
SATURDAYS AND SUNDAY WHATEVER THE GAME -- WHATEVER THE EVENT
AND A WEST TAMPA TRADITION IN MY OPINION AS FAR AS I KNOW.
ALWAYS HAVE BEEN ON THAT IN FEW DAYS.
NOT A CITY COUNCIL -- I CALL FOR CLARITY AND WE ARE GETTING
INUNDATED WITH PHONE CALLS BASED ON THIS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
LOSING FOUR, FIVE, SIX CARS.
$10 A CAR -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRICE IS.
A LOT OF MONEY AND IT ADDS UP.
I KNOW COUNCILMAN GUDES ASKED FOR A COPY OF THAT CITATION
AND MIRANDA AS WELL.
AND WE WILL CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT IT BECAUSE I DON'T
THINK IT IS RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
11:03:48AM >> HI, OMAR GARCIA.
1041 RURAL PASS.
I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW OF A SITUATION THAT HAPPENED TO
US DURING THE DISASTER RECOVERY.
I HAPPEN TO OWN A BOX TRUCK AND WE STARTED RECOVERY EFFORTS
ON THURSDAY.
AND I TOLD MY GUYS, LET'S MAKE SURE WE ARE IN LINE EARLY ON
McKAY BAY FRIDAY 6:00 AS SOON AS WE OPEN UP TO GO BACK AND
MAKE A COUPLE OF RUNS THAT DAY.
WE FOUND OUT THAT THE -- THAT THE -- THE McKAY BAY WEIGH
SCALE LOCATION WAS ACTUALLY CLOSED UNTIL MONDAY.
NORMALLY THEY HAVE OPERATION HOURS ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
AND THEY DIDN'T REOPEN AGAIN UNTIL MONDAY.
OBVIOUSLY OUR TRUCK WAS FULL WE COULDN'T CONTINUE WITH OUR
POST RECOVERY EFFORTS.
SO JUST -- I WANTED TO -- I KNOW THAT STAFF AND CITY STAFF
WAS PRETTY TAXED IN TERMS OF PERSONNEL DURING THESE TIMES,
BUT WHEN WE DO CLOSE McKAY BAY ON A POST EVENT LIKE THIS, IT
DOES SLOW DOWN RECOVERY EFFORTS AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
SHOULD JUST BE CONSIDERED TO KEEP THE -- THE DUMP OPEN
REGULAR HOURS IF NOT EVEN EXTENDED HOURS DURING THE TIME TO
SPEED THINGS UP.
THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
11:05:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:05:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SIR, I DO BELIEVE -- SOMEONE FROM STAFF CAN
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THEY SHUT DOWN McKAY BAY
BECAUSE IT IS -- IT IS RUN BY ELECTRICITY -- I DON'T KNOW,
SOME TYPE OF ENERGY.
A WASTE ENERGY PLANT.
I KNOW THEY SHUT DOWN AND TURBINES AND ENGINES TAKE TIME TO
START UP AGAIN, SO I KNOW PART OF IT WAS THAT.
BUT THAT IS A GOOD POINT.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE CAN SPEAK ON THAT, BUT -- BUT I AM
MAKING A NOTE OF THAT.
WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT DISASTER.
THANK YOU.
I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE
REASON.
11:05:52AM >> THEY DIDN'T GIVE US ANY KIND OF EXPLANATION AND I KNOW
TRUCKS BACKED UP FOR QUITE A BIT.
11:05:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
11:05:58AM >> SLOWED US DOWN.
11:06:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
APPRECIATE IT.
11:06:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MANUAL NOVO.
LONG-TIME RESIDENT 3314 WESTER LEROY STREET.
BORN AND RAISED THERE PARKING CARS MY WHOLE LIFE.
NOW WE ARE PART OF SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT.
SO I GOT A COUPLE OF PICTURES -- CAN I PUT PICTURES --
EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS RIGHT DOWN HERE.
WE HAVE PARKING EVERY SINGLE DAY ON SIDEWALKS AND EASEMENTS.
NO TICKETS.
THEY LET THEM DO IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
ANOTHER PICTURE, SAME THING, SELECTIVE PARKING.
WEST COMPANY SANDWICH SHOP.
ANOTHER ONE.
I CAN'T SEE COME OUT OF DOUGLAS STREET, I CAN'T SEE WHO IS
COMING TO THE LEFT.
EVERY CAR IS PARKED ON THE EASEMENT.
ALL THIS IS BROUGHT UP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
MEETING FOR THE LAST FOUR TO FIVE YEARS.
WE SPEAK WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE PARKING DEPARTMENT.
NOTHING EVER HAPPENS.
I GOT ANOTHER PICTURE HERE.
ANOTHER -- GLEN AVENUE.
LET'S USE THAT SIDEWALK.
DUMP THAT TRASH.
USE THAT SIDEWALK TO PARK OUR CARS.
ST. CONRAD -- SORRY, I WILL TURN IT AROUND FOR YOU ALL.
ST. CONRAD BETWEEN GLEN AND LINCOLN.
MY DAUGHTER CANNOT RIDE ON THE SIDEWALK SAFELY BECAUSE EVERY
SINGLE DAY CARS PARKED ON THE EASEMENT.
IT IS OKAY TO TICKET ME AND MY PERSONAL VEHICLE ON GAME DAY
WHEN I AM PARKED IN THE DRIVEWAY.
MY PERSONAL VEHICLE GETS TICKETED.
LIKE GUIDO MANISCALCO SAID, THEY TOLD ME IT WAS OUR
COUNCILMAN BEHIND ALL THIS.
NOT SAYING WHO THE COMPLAINT PERSON, BUT THE COUNCILMAN --
11:07:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DO YOU HAVE A NAME OF THAT PERSON?
11:07:42AM >> EDGAR.
I CALLED THE DIVISION AND ALL OF THEM.
THEY SAID THEY WILL KEEP DOING IT AND OUT THERE ON SUNDAY
AND THEY HAVE ALREADY GIVEN OUT TICKETS AND BEGUN ALL THAT.
HERE IS A PICTURE WITH NO CARS.
SO WE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE THIS BUSINESS USE THAT WHOLE
SIDEWALK FOR YOUR VEHICLES.
NO PARKING SIGNS.
WE ARE PARKING BEHIND THE NO PARKING SIGNS.
NO TICKETS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE HOMES.
I CALLED THE PARKING DIVISION, THEY TOLD ME PARK MY CAR
BEHIND THE MAILBOX, YOU ARE OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
THEY SAID PARK BEHIND THE NO PARKING SIGNS.
YOU ARE OKAY.
I GOT ANSWERS FROM EVERYBODY DIFFERENT.
NOW THEY ARE TELLING US YOU NEED TO KEEP OUR CARS BEHIND
THIS LINE.
NO CARS ON THIS GRASS THAT WE MAINTAIN AND TAKE CARE OF.
UNREAL.
UNREAL.
LITERALLY MY PERSONAL VEHICLE GOT A WARNING -- ON MY
PERSONAL VEHICLE IN MY DRIVEWAY.
I PARK THREE CARS.
THIS DOESN'T EFFECT ME.
I AM WORRY -- MY NEIGHBOR -- SHE IS 90 YEARS OLD AND USE IT
IS TO FIX HER CAR AND HOUSE.
NOT FOR ME, IT IS FOR THEM.
THAT'S IT.
THAT'S ALL I GOT.
20 SECONDS LEFT?
NO?
ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
YOU GUYS WANT THESE PHOTOS?
WOULD YOU LIKE ALL THIS RIGHT HERE?
11:09:12AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
ANY NAME IS ALBERT PACHECO.
I LIVED IN TAMPA FLORIDA SINCE 1969.
I AM A GRADUATE OF PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
AND ALL I WANTED TO SAY IS TO TALK ABOUT THE PARKING ISSUE
DURING RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM EVENTS.
WE DO A SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA BY PARKING THESE CARS
IN OUR -- IN OUR HOUSES.
WE ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC.
WE HOPE THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE KEEP OUR EYES OPEN FOR ANYTHING GOING ON DURING THESE
EVENTS.
AND THESE GENTLEMEN WERE TALKING OF THE PARKING SITUATION.
THEY SAY WE ARE GOING TO BE CITED IF WE PARK CARS IN THE
PARKING -- IN THE CITY -- WHATEVER THEY CALL THAT AREA 15
FEET FROM THE STREET.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW -- AND, YOU KNOW, JUST -- JUST TO LET
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE.
THEY HAVE THIS SIGN THAT SAYS WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK
THERE ANYMORE AND I WANTED TO SEE IF THAT WAS CORRECT.
OF ELIMINATING FIVE CAR SPACES, TALKING OF CAR SPACES.
THEY ARE OVER 200 HOUSES THAT PROVIDE PARKING FOR THIS --
THIS STADIUM EVENT AND OVER 1,000 CARS.
YOU CAN IMAGINE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR PARKING.
AND THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
11:10:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
CAN I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION?
11:10:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:10:57AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ARE YOU RELATED TO FELIPE PACHECO.
DID YOU KNOW A FELIPE?
11:11:07AM >> BUT A DISTANT COUSIN OF FREDDIE PACHECO.
11:11:11AM >>LUIS VIERA:
DISREGARD.
11:11:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU REMEMBER -- LA PACHECO.
11:11:20AM >> I DON'T KNOW.
BUT I HAVE BEEN TO YBOR CITY A LOT.
11:11:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
COLUMBUS DRIVE AND 16th I BELIEVE IT WAS.
WHERE FREDDIE GOT HIS -- LEARNING HOW TO BECOME A PHARMACIST
AND A DOCTOR.
11:11:30AM >> YES, MUHAMMED ALI'S FIGHT.
11:11:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT -- I JUST DON'T
KNOW HOW THIS HAPPENED.
I GOT A NAME.
BUT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS CALLED CS.
COMMON SENSE.
SOME PEOPLE OR SOME GOVERNMENT HAVE LOST IT -- I AM NOT
SAYING THIS ONE HAS, BUT I AM SURE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
THEMSELVES DIDN'T ORDER THIS.
THIS WAS DONE TO COMPENSATE WHAT IS HAPPENING -- WHAT YOU
GUYS HAVE -- YOUR ANXIETY LEVEL AND NOT ONLY THE GAMES OF
SPORTS -- BUT ALL SPORTING EVENTS THAT ARE THERE, YOU HAVE
THE ABILITY TO PARK.
REALLY NOT ABOUT THE MONEY.
TO COMPENSATE FOR THE LOSS THAT YOU GUYS GETTING IN AND OUT
OF YOUR HOUSE.
IF YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF YOUR HOUSE AND GO WEST TO HIMES AND
MAKE NO TURN.
NONE.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
YOU CAN'T ON MacDILL.
HOW DO YOU GET HOME, PARK YOUR CAR AND WALK.
11:12:36AM >> WE TRY TO GO AROUND AND TRY TO KEEP THE ROAD AS CLEAR AS
POSSIBLE.
11:12:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT WE DID AND THE GRECO ADMINISTRATION
SAID PARK ON YOUR STREET I DON'T THINK YOU DON'T PARK THE
CARS ON A PAVEMENT WHERE AN AMBULANCE OR FIRE TRUCK NEEDS TO
BE THERE FOR EMERGENCY CAN PASS.
THAT IS WHAT WE DID.
IT HAS BEEN WORKING BEAUTIFULLY AND EINSTEIN CAME IN AND DID
WHATEVER THEY DID.
I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT EINSTEIN IS BUT CERTAINLY DIDN'T HELP
THE CAUSE.
YOU CAN NOT LOOK AT IT IN A MONEYMAKING THING OF WHAT YOU
FELLAS LOST.
YOU DIDN'T HAVE A NORMAL LIFE WHEN YOU HAVE AN EVENT.
IF PEOPLE TELL ME OF PARKING PROBLEMS IN THE CITY, TELL THEM
ALL THE TIME.
GO TO WEST TAMPA AND DO AN EVENT.
I WILL SHOW YOU PARKING PROBLEM.
YOU CAN'T GO NOWHERE.
THEY DON'T LET YOU OUT.
YOU ARE CAPTURED IN YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN JAIL FOR A
CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOURS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:13:33AM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
11:13:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
11:13:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
BRIAN ROSELLO, AND I AM REPRESENTING THE NEIGHBORHOODS SOUTH
OF COLUMBUS DRIVE AND ONE BLOCK EAST OF HIMES.
AND IT IS ABOUT THIS PARKING ISSUE.
THAT IS GOING ON THROUGH THE GAMES.
US RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN PARKING OVER TWO DECADES.
WE DO PARK ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
WE -- DON'T LET A BUNCH OF BAD APPLES WHO PARK PARTIALLY IN
THE STREET RUIN IT FOR US.
WE KEEP IT THREE AND A HALF FEET OFF THE STREET.
A LOT OF -- LET ME SEE HERE.
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOING IT CORRECTLY.
WE CLEAN UP THE TRASH, AS WELL AS MAINTAIN THE TREES AND CUT
THE GRASS ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE FRONT YARDS.
WE HAVE FENCED IN FRONT YARDS AND FENCED IN BACKYARDS TO
PREVENT DEATH OR -- THEFT, EXCUSE ME.
THE RESIDENTS PARK THEMSELVES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN FRONT
OF THEIR OWN HOMES EVERY NIGHT, EVERY DAY, EVEN DURING
EVENTS.
WE ALSO HAVE VISITORS THAT COME.
AND WE ALSO DO PARK FOR THE EVENTS TO MAKE EXTRA MONEY.
PART OF IT TO PAY HOMEOWNER INSURANCE AND EVER-INCREASING
PROPERTY TAXES -- THE PROPERTY TAXES I HEAR FROM ELDERLY,
THEY PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAXES WITH IT AND PARTIALLY PAYING
THEIR EVER -INCREASING HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE.
ELDERLY CITIZENS I HAVE TELL ME ABOUT IT IS ESPECIALLY
CONCERNED ESPECIALLY WITH A BAD AS THE ECONOMY IS.
THE WARNINGS AND VIOLATIONS WENT OUT LAST WEEK.
THE FIRST TIME EVER -- I HAVE BEEN PERSONALLY PARKING.
21, 22 YEARS.
THIRD-GENERATION TAMPANIAN.
MY GRANDPARENTS SAID DALE MABRY WAS A DIRT ROAD COMING AND
GOING.
ALL I ASK AND PEOPLE ASK THAT THIS COMING WEEKEND TO PLEASE
PULL OUT THE ENFORCEMENT.
AND IT IS A TRADITION AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ON FIXED INCOME DO
DEPEND ON THIS MONDAY AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
98% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING PARK LEGAL.
WHY?
BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS AND THEY WANT THE
TRADITION TO KEEP GOING.
YOU HAVE A FEW BAD APPLES THAT DO PARK IN THE STREET -- HALF
ON THE STREET.
NOT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
AS LONG AS YOU ARE THREE AND A HALF FEET, PULLING IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC, AWAY FROM A STOP SIGN.
AWAY FROM A TELEPHONE POLE.
THESE ARE THE RULES THAT WERE TOLD TO ME BY A TRAFFIC
ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO.
WE JUST ASK THAT THIS WEEK TO PLEASE HOLD BACK.
GAMEGOERS AND HOMEOWNERS DON'T NEED TO BE GOING THROUGH
THIS.
IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY PARKED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AND
NOT PROPERLY IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
GIVE THEM A TICKET.
NO PROBLEM WITH THAT YOU ARE BLOCKING -- IF YOU WERE -- IF
YOUR WHEELS ARE ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET, YEAH YOU ARE IN
VIOLATION.
BUT IF YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PARKED -- OR YOUR OWN
PERSONAL PROPERTY.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I REALLY DO.
OKAY, COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:16:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
11:16:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:16:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ANOTHER THING WE DID -- NOT IN
ADMINISTRATION, BUT USED TO HAVE THE DITCHES IN FRONT OF
WEST TAMPA.
GUESS WHO CLEANED THEM, THE SAME NEIGHBORS CLEANED THEM.
WE GOT SO SMART WE MADE THEM INTO Vs.
YOU CAN'T GET IN, YOU CAN'T GET OUT.
THE CITY HAS GOT TO CLEAN THEM AND THEY ARE NOT DOING A
GREAT JOB.
THANK YOU.
11:17:20AM >> APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:17:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS STEPHANIE PO WHY,NOR, RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
I LIVE IN EVACUATION ZONE A, I HAVE FOUR MORE HOUSES IN
EVACUATION ZONE A.
WE ARE REALLY A SPECIAL BUNCH.
AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT -- I HAD NO INTENTION OF TALKING
ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS ONE OF MY FRIENDS.
SHE AND HER HUSBAND WERE BOTH DISABLED AND STANDING AT THE
HIMES COMPLEX WITH ABOUT 50 OTHER PEOPLE.
I DID CONTACT SOMEONE IN ADMINISTRATION AND THEY DID RESPOND
AND THEY OPENED IT UP EARLY, BUT A LOT TO BE CONSIDERED IN A
SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE THIS MANY PEOPLE STANDING OUT TO GET
SANDBAGS IN ONE OF THE HOTTEST PLACES IN THE COUNTRY.
IF THEY ARE IN THERE AT 5:30 IN THE MORNING.
THEY ARE NOT STANDING OUT IN THE BAKING SUN.
THEY ARE NOT -- THEY ARE NOT -- THE LONGER THEY STAND IN
LINE, THE LESS THEY CAN TO DO SECURE THEIR HOMES.
SO IF THOSE LINES ARE ABLE TO BE MOVING 5:30, 6:00 IN THE
MORNING WHEN THE SUN COMES UP, THEN THEY CAN BE BOARDING UP
THEIR HOMES AND DOING THE THINGS THEY NEED TO DO OUTSIDE.
AS SOMEBODY SAID OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, IF YOU CAN
PICK IT UP, PUT IT UP.
THOSE PEOPLE WERE STANDING IN LINE INSTEAD OF PUTTING THINGS
UP IN THEIR YARDS.
I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT I DID POINT OUT.
LIKE I SAID, I CONTACTED ADMINISTRATION.
THEY HELPED HER GET HER CAR -- HER SANDBAGS LOADED IN HER
CAR WITHIN 30 MINUTES AFTER THAT.
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT BUT A 9:00 START TIME IS GREAT
FOR CITY COUNCIL BUT REALLY NOT WHEN YOU ARE IN A STATE OF
EMERGENCY.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
AND I DO APPRECIATE OUR CITY STAFF.
I WILL BE THE FIRST ONE TO TIP MY GARBAGEMAN BECAUSE HE
SHOWED UP THE DAY BEFORE THE HURRICANE.
WE HAD A LOT OF CONCERNED NEIGHBORS WE WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE
GARBAGE PICK-UP AND THIS GUY BUSTED THROUGH THEIR
NEIGHBORHOOD AND DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.
THEY CAME BACK THROUGH ON FRIDAY AND TOO CAN STUFF.
I AM VERY, VERY HAPPY, BUT SOMETIMES IN THIS AFTER ACTION
REVIEW, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS I THINK SO LIKE -- DO WE
REALLY NEED TO WAIT UNTIL 9:00 TO OPEN THE DOORS?
THIS IS NOT NINTENDO SWITCH.
I LOVE MY TREE HUGGER FRIEND AND SHE WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT
TREES.
11:19:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
11:19:53AM >> HI, CARROLL ANN BENNETT, LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF THE CITY
OF TAMPA.
I WILL -- AS STEPHANIE SAID, I WILL TALK ABOUT THE TREE AS
LITTLE BIT.
I WILL SAY I WAS GLUED TO THE TV EVERY WAKING HOUR LEADING
UP TO IAN, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE SAID WAS THAT
THE BAY IS NOW AVERAGING THREE DEGREES WARMER THAN IT USED
TO.
AND THEIR EXACT WORDS IS, THIS IS JET FUEL TO HURRICANES.
SO THE RISE IN TEMPERATURE HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE SEVERITY
OF THE STORMS.
AND IF YOU LOOK ON THE INTERNET, ALL OVER THE WORLD, ONE OF
THE BIGGEST, BEST SOLUTIONS IS TREES.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THE TREES.
THEY HAVE A HUGE IMPACT IN A LOT OF WAYS.
THEY SAVE THE CITY SO MUCH MONEY.
PEOPLE -- ONE THING THAT IS A PROBLEM, PEOPLE CAN'T GO OUT
IN THEIR FRONT YARD AND SAY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THAT TREE
WASN'T THERE.
THEY CAN'T DO THAT..A LOT OF TIMES THIS HE DON'T VISUALIZE
HOW A TREE HELPS THEM.
IF THE TREE PREVENTS FLOODING, WHICH THEY DO.
THEY CAN'T SEE THE FLOODING THAT WAS PREVENTED.THIS HE CAN'T
SEE THE OXYGEN -- EXTRA OXYGEN AND THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND
EFFECT.
TECO DOES NEED TO TRIM THE TREES AROUND POWER LINES.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE THIS HE DO IT BUTCHER THE TREE WHERE THE
TREE IS GOING TO DIE.
AND THAT GETS THE COMPLAINTS BECAUSE NOT BEING DONE PROPERLY
OR ENOUGH.
I AGREE WITH THAT.
BUT WE MUST HAVE THE TREES.
YOU KNOW, THEY ARE A BIG PART OF THE SOLUTION TO THE
PROBLEM.
I CONSIDER MYSELF AN EXPERT.
MY FAMILY HAS BEEN IN THE TREE BUSINESS FOR GENERATIONS.
I AM SORRY THESE LITTLE MITIGATION TREES, I KNOW ON OUR
LAND, WHEN WE CUT 100 TO 150 TREES ON AN ACRE, WE ARE NOW
GOING TO HAVE FLOODING ON THAT LAND EVEN THOUGH WE ARE
PLANTING BACK 600 TREES PER ACRE.
WE ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE FLOODING ON THAT LAND FOR YEARS
WE DIDN'T HAVE PRIOR BECAUSE THOSE 600 BABY TREES DO NOT DO
THE SAME WORK AS 100 MATURE TREES.
IF YOU WANT THE DETAILS, I CAN TELL YOU.
BUT I AM AN EXPERT ON THAT.
THE OTHER THING TO TALK ABOUT REAL QUICK, THE EVACUATION.
A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE CITY DID WAS GREAT.
I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT.
I AM CONCERNED THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T EVACUATE.
I KNOW MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH MY NEIGHBORS.
I LIVE IN B.
MYA CULPA, I DIDN'T EVACUATE, BUT I DID IT BASED ON A LOT OF
INFORMATION.
WE ARE READY TO EVACUATE, BUT I SAW THAT THE WATER WAS GOING
OUT OF THE BAY.
I HAD A PLACE TO GO THAT WASN'T NEARBY.
IT WAS A VERY INFORMED DECISION, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
EVACUATED FOR IRMA SAID NEVER AGAIN.
THAT IS AN ISSUE.
PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW HARD IT IS TO EVACUATE.
HOW MUCH MONEY IN HOTELS.
HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND A PLACE.
AND THIS ALL FIGURES IN TO THE EVACUATION.
DALE MABRY WAS AN ABSOLUTELY PARKING LOT WHEN THEY MANDATED
MacDILL EVACUATE.
MOST OF SOUTH TAMPA IS IN A AND B.
AND NOT ANY AREA OF THE CITY THAT HAS HOMES IN A AND ,B AS
SOUTH TAMPA.
11:23:08AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS DEBRA WILSON AND I'M HERE TO REQUEST TO VACATE AN
ALLEY NEXT TO MY HOME.
I LIVE AT 2903 EAST 17th AVENUE --
11:23:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MA'AM, THAT IS COMING UP ON MY AGENDA, AN
AGENDA ITEM.
11:23:25AM >> DO I NEED TO SIT DOWN UNTIL IT COMES?
11:23:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NUMBER 99.
11:23:31AM >> DO I NEED TO HAVE A SEAT UNTIL THAT COMES UP?
11:23:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MA'AM, IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE AFTERNOON.
JUST MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT -- PUBLIC COMMENT, UNLESS --
11:23:49AM >> SHE IS THE APPLICANT.
11:23:50AM >> YES.
11:23:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT ITEM TO BE
CALLED.
I DIDN'T WANT HER TO STAY THERE ALL DAY LONG IF SHE WAS JUST
GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT.
11:23:59AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, ROBIN LOCKETT.
SO WE CAN TALK -- MAKE COMMENTS OF AGENDA ITEMS NOW?
11:24:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OH, YES, YOU CAN.
11:24:10AM >> OKAY.
SO ROBIN LOCKETT.
FIRST I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.
A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT TREES, PARKING AND SO FORTH.
THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO DO WITH REGARDS TO
TELLING PEOPLE WHO CAN PARK ON THEIR PROPERTY AND SO FORTH?
THAT IS AMAZING TO ME.
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 68.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WITH REGARDS TO THIS ITEM HOW
MANY TENANTS HAVE BEEN SERVICED, WHAT THE OUTCOMES WERE, AND
ALSO, HOW MANY TENANTS WERE APPLIED FOR IT.
THAT IS ONE THING.
I HAVE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF PHONE CALLS WITH REGARDS TO
PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN HOTELS.
AND THE INFORMATION AROUND THE TENANT BILL OF RIGHTS.
TENANT BILL OF RIGHTS WITH REGARDS TO THE ENFORCEMENT OF
THIS, WHEN A LANDLORD SAYS THAT THEY ARE NOT ACCEPTING
SECTION 8.
THEY ARE NOT ACCEPTING VOUCHERS.
THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A PENALTY FOR THEM TO DO THAT.
FOR ONE EVIDENTLY LANDLORDS DON'T KNOW THIS IS IN PLACE.
TWO, WHEN I LOOKED UP THE ENFORCEMENT, THE $75, $150, $300
AND $450.
TOO LOW.
RIGHT.
BECAUSE I WOULD PAY -- IF I AM A LANDLORD AND I DON'T WANT
TO ACCEPT THOSE THINGS, I WOULD PAY THAT AMOUNT TO KEEP
PEOPLE OUT.
WHAT HAPPENS -- WHAT IS THE PROCESS IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN?
OR IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN.
YOU HAVE TEN APPLICANTS COME AND THEY CONSISTENTLY DENY.
SO THAT IS ANOTHER -- THAT IS -- THAT IS TWO THINGS.
I AM SORRY -- I THINK THAT WAS IT.
OH, HOTELS -- A LOT MUCH PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD -- THEY ARE
LIVING IN HOTELS AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO GET AN APARTMENT
OR RENT.
WITH REGARDS TO ASSISTANCE AROUND THOSE INDIVIDUALS, WHAT IS
GOING ON?
AID COUPLE OF PEOPLE CONTACT ME BECAUSE THEY NEED HELP WITH
PAYING THEIR HOTEL BILL, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND ANYWHERE TO
ELEVEN.
SO IS THE R3 PROGRAM OR THE R-MAP PROGRAM, WILL THEY BE
ABLE TO GET ASSISTANCE WITH THAT?
THANK YOU.
11:26:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:27:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MISS LOCKETT, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW
NUMBER 68, WE ARE SIMPLY APPROVING FOR THE PILOT PROJECT TO
BEGIN.
IT HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED YET.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE APPROVING.
JUST -- BUT I KNOW THAT MISS TRAVIS WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT
THE OTHER, BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THIS IS JUST US
APPROVING THE FACT THAT IT IS GOING TO START.
11:27:22AM >> I WOULD REALLY WANT TO KNOW JUST THE REAL OUTCOMES OF
THAT.
11:27:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, YEAH, WE ARE ON IT.
11:27:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALREADY ASKED THAT QUESTION.
11:27:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
WE WILL GIVE YOU QUARTERLY UPDATES OF THE HOUSING.
AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO INCLUDE -- WE WILL BE REPORTING ON
THAT -- THE QUESTIONS THAT MISS LOCKETT IS ASKING, WE WILL
MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE THAT IN OUR QUARTERLY REPORT.
THEN FOR THE HOTEL -- FOR THE HOTEL.
FOR THE R-3, THE RECOVERY RESPONSE -- KIANA WILL TEXT ME
BECAUSE I AM MESS IT UP.
THE R-3 PROGRAM HELPS THOSE ARE HOTEL VOUCHERS UNTIL WE FIND
THEM PERMANENT HOUSING.
IF THEY ARE IN A HOTEL AND HAVEN'T FOUND PERMANENT HOUSING,
NEED TO CALL OUR OFFICE TO CONNECT WITH THE R-3 PROGRAM.
11:28:13AM >> STILL LIKE -- THEY HAVE TO DO A LOT OF SERVICE ON CALLING
ON MONDAY OR SOMETHING?
AND TRY TO GET IN?
11:28:21AM >> THE YES, THE CALLS ARE WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY.
AND WE TAKE 500 APPLICATIONS A WEEK.
E-MAIL.
11:28:29AM >> OKAY.
11:28:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IN
CHAMBERS?
DO WE HAVE EVERYBODY ONLINE?
MR. STROHMEYER, ARE YOU THERE?
SORRY?
11:29:01AM >>CLERK:
MISS STROHMEYER, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE
YOURSELF.
I KNOW SHE WAS HAVING SOME INTERNET ISSUES.
MISS SANCHEZ DID REGISTER AND NEVER LOGGED ON.
11:29:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IT IS A PARTY.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S MOVE FORWARD THEN.
MR. ROGERO, LET'S BRING UP AGENDA ITEM 51 PULLED FOR
DISCUSSION.
MR. ROGERO.
11:30:21AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND CITY COUNCIL.
CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER WITH A PRESENTATION ON ITEM NUMBER
51.
TO RECAP MOVING FUNDING FROM A HURRICANE IAN FEMA
REIMBURSEMENT ACCOUNT TO PAY ESTIMATED EXPENSES OVER $7
MILLION ASSOCIATE WITH THIS STORM.
FOR CLARIFICATION, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO PAY OUTSIDE OF
THE CITY ORGANIZATION YET.
THE EVENT WAS ONLY A WEEK AGO AND WE AWAIT INVOICES.
WE ARE CONCENTRATING ON PAYING THOUSANDS OF CITY EMPLOYEES
AS YOU HEARD WHO WORKED AROUND THE CLOCK TO PREPARE AND
RESPOND TO THIS EMERGENCY.
DURING INDIVIDUAL BRIEFS, COUNCIL HAS ASKED FOR SOME DETAIL
THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER AS TO WHAT THOSE ANTICIPATED
EXPENSES WILL BE.
AND I HAVE THAT HERE IF I CAN HAVE THE ELMO UP, PLEASE.
THIS INFORMATION IS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM OUR PRELIMINARY
DAMAGE UPDATE WHICH WE PROVIDE DAILY TO THE COUNTY AS A
REQUIREMENT FOR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT.
YOU CAN SEE THE EXPENSES ARE FIRST, PERSONNEL, DEBRIS
REMOVAL AND PREPARATIONS.
I WILL JUST GO DOWN THE LIST BRIEFLY, SALARY AND BENEFITS.
THAT IS THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE EXPENSE AS YOU
WOULD PROBABLY GUESS.
THAT IS WHAT RUNS OUR ORGANIZATION.
DEBRIS REMOVAL.
BUILDINGS AND EQUIPMENT.
UTILITIES.
FOOD FOR THE EOC, FOR OUR VARIOUS EMERGENCY RESPONSE CENTERS
AND OTHER STAGING AREAS.
PARK AND RECREATION, RENTALS.
AN EXAMPLE OF RENTALS WOULD BE THE SHOWER AND REST ROOM
FACILITIES THAT ARE BROUGHT IN AT THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE
CENTERS.
AND ROADS AND BRIDGES.
YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THE AGENDA BEFORE YOU IS JUST OVER $7
MILLION, BUT THE COSTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN REVISED UPWARDS OF
NEARLY $8 MILLION.
WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THAT DISPARITY RIGHT NOW
BECAUSE, AGAIN, THESE ARE ESTIMATES.
THE CLOCK IS STILL RUNNING.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO REFINE THIS -- THESE ESTIMATES AS WE GET
INFORMATION IN.
ON A POSITIVE NOTE, AS WE SHARE WITH YOU, WE OPEN WE WILL
GET OVER 85% OF THIS REIMBURSED FROM FEMA AND THE STATE OF
FLORIDA AT THIS POINT.
THAT IS OVER 6.5 MILLION.
ALSO DURING INDIVIDUAL BRIEFS, COUNCIL ASKED FOR DETAILS
REGARDING OUR CONTRACTS AND WHO WE ANTICIPATE PAYING FOR
FROM THIS FUNDING.
I ALSO HAVE THAT.
OF COURSE AT THE TOP, CITY OF TAMPA, OUR INTERNAL CUSTOMER
FOR PREP RATION AND STAFFING, THE EMPLOYEES.
MOVING DOWN TO THE DEBRIS REMOVAL THAT SOLID WASTE IS
UNDERTAKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THESE TWO VENDORS.
NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A VENDOR HAUL AWAY DEBRIS BUT
THE VENDOR MONITORED FOR TRACKING PURPOSES AND REIMBURSEMENT
GOING FORWARD.
THE SHOWERS AND REST ROOMS I TALKED ABOUT AND THE VARIOUS
VENDORS PROVIDING FOOD TO THE VARIOUS LOCATIONS.
WHAT WE DON'T KNOW YET ARE THE MYRIAD OF COMPANIES THAT WE
DID BUSINESS IN USING OUR PURCHASING CARDS IN THE RUN-UP TO
IT THE IMMEDIATE EMERGENCY.
WE HAVE PURCHASING CARDS THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION TO GET
THOSE SUPPLIES THAT EITHER IT DOESN'T MAKE LOGISTICAL OR
ECONOMIC SENSE TO HOLD ON TO OR THOSE WE FIND WE NEED AT THE
LAST MINUTE.
I WILL NOTE, THESE ARE ALL PREVIOUSLY APPROVED CONTRACTS,
AND NO CONTRACTS WERE SIGNED OR INCREASED DURING THE
EMERGENCY SESSION.
THAT IS BECAUSE AS PART OF OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
PROTOCOL, WE GET THESE COUNCIL APPROVED CONTRACTS SIGNED
AHEAD OF TIME AND HOLD THE FUNDING THAT WE MAY NEED IN
ABEYANCE, THAT IS OUR HURRICANE RESERVE FUNDS THAT WE ASK
YOU TO MOVE MONEY OUT OF TODAY.
ALSO, JUST TO GIVE COUNCIL SOME CONTEXT, IT HAS BEEN
RELATIVELY -- SORRY, IT HAS BEEN RELATIVELY RECENT BUT FIVE
YEARS SINCE HURRICANE IRMA.
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE COMPARISON OF HOW HURRICANE IRMA LANDED
AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
JUST ABOUT FIVE YEARS ON THE DOT.
TWO-DAY EVENTS.
IT LOOKS LIKE HURRICANE IAN WILL BE A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF
OF THE EXPENSE ASSOCIATED WITH HURRICANE IRMA I WOULD LIKE
TO GIVE YOU THE HURRICANE IRMA MATERIAL.
IT TOOK A YEAR TO GET A MERE 300,000 REIMBURSED AND THE LAST
SIGNIFICANT REIMBURSEMENT OCCURRED THREE YEARS AFTER THE
EVENT.
SO NOT A QUICK PROCESS AND NOT A QUICK PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS
VERY COMPLICATED.
THE ASSESSING OF THE DAMAGE.
THE INTAKE OF INFORMATION.
THE ANALYSIS OF INFORMATION.
THE DISCUSSION WITH THE REIMBURSEMENT AGENCIES.
AND THIS MAY SHOCK YOU, BUT OFTEN FOR EXAMPLE, FEMA AUDITOR
ALSO COME IN AND WON'T AGREE WITH THE INITIAL ACTIONS THAT
FEMA WOULD INDICATE IN THE FIRST PLACE AND I AM NOT PICKING
ON FEMA.
THAT IS JUST PART OF THE PROCESS.
IT SEEMS VERY LIKELY WE WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
CASH TIED UP FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IS
ANOTHER REASON WHY WE WANT THIS FUNDING MOVED FROM THE
HURRICANE RESERVE FUND.
FINALLY, COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY SOME STATEMENTS
AND INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED EARLIER.
THIS AGENDA, AS YOU MAY KNOW, INCLUDING THIS ITEM WAS
APPROVED FRIDAY EVENING IN THE CLERK SYSTEM.
WE BRIEFED EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, AS YOU KNOW.
BUT THIS ITEM WAS LATE.
THE AGENDA WAS LATE FOR THE REASONS WE ALREADY MENTIONED.
NEARLY THE ENTIRE CITY WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TO PREPARE
-- PARDON ME -- AND DEAL WITH AN EMERGENCY.
LET ME ALSO SHARE WITH YOU THIS EVENT HAVEN'T ENDED AS YOU
ARE SEEING RIGHT HERE.
NOT ONLY DO WE RESPOND TO THE EVENT DURING, BUT SOLID WASTE
IS OUT THERE DOING EVENT-RELATED ACTIVITIES.
HUMAN RESOURCES -- WHAT YOU DON'T SEE, THE REVENUE AND
FINANCE, TRYING TO PAY THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES ACCURATELY IN
A WAY THAT WE CAN TRACK FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
OPERATIONALLY, WE ARE STILL IN AN EMERGENCY.
AND WE BRIEFED EACH OF YOU AS I SAID.
AND TUESDAY COUNCILMEMBER ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ITEM.
TWO DAYS AGO, OKAY.
MOREOVER, THE COUNCILMEMBER ASK THIS INFORMATION BE
PROVIDED, I QUOTE, WHEN THIS IS PRESENTED.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
COUNCIL, I SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, YOU ARE
MY CUSTOMERS.
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT I PROVIDE GOOD SERVICE TO MY CUSTOMERS.
I THINK WITH THE INFORMATION WE PROVIDED AND THE BRIEFS WE
HELD AND THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WHICH WE PROVIDED WHEN
IT WAS ASKED FOR, IT IS PROVIDING EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE
ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE TIME FRAMES AND RESTRICTIONS ASSOCIATE
WITH THIS EMERGENCY.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERS ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
AND I CAN ANSWER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
11:37:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:37:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE ASKED FOR DETAILED
INFORMATION.
11:38:03AM >> NO ONE.
11:38:06AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO ONE.
11:38:11AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
NO SIR.
SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU WERE ASKING ME A QUESTION.
11:38:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO, IT APPEARS THAT -- NEVER MIND.
YOU KNOW, EACH OF US IS ELECTED BY THE PUBLIC.
AND WE REPRESENT OUR CONSTITUENTS IN THE PUBLIC, AND I WOULD
APPRECIATE IF WE GET RESPECT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.
MY QUESTION IS, THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU JUST SHOWN.
I ASKED THE QUESTION THE OTHER DAY -- I EVEN ASKED FOR IT
YESTERDAY IN E-MAIL.
YESTERDAY I HAD SUBMITTED BY E-MAIL MY CONCERN TO YOU AND
CHIEF OF STAFF THIS WAS NOT DISCLOSED TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE
I FEEL LIKE THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE -- NEEDS TO SEE THE
INFORMATION.
IT IS NOT SUFFICIENT JUST FOR US TO SEE IT.
AND NOW WE ARE TALKING OF $8 MILLION.
WE HAVE SEEN THIS ADMINISTRATION PLAYS LOOSE WITH NUMBERS.
11:39:06AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I DISAGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT.
11:39:08AM >>BILL CARLSON:
IN THE HANNA AVENUE PROJECT, TOILET TO TAP
AND OTHERS.
I WON'T GO THROUGH THE DETAILS AGAIN.
BUT JUST BECAUSE YOU GET A LEGAL OPINION SAYING SOMETHING IS
OKAY DOESN'T MEAN IT IS.
THE FACT IS THAT WE NEED TO RESPECT THE PUBLIC'S NEED TO
HAVE TRANSPARENCY.
AND YOU SAID THAT THESE DOCUMENTS ARE PROVIDED EVERY DAY TO
THE COUNTY.
MY FIRST QUESTION IS WHY DIDN'T YOU GIVE US WHAT WAS GIVEN
TO THE COUNTY YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE.
PUT A COPY AND SAY THIS IS AS OF TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY.
BUT YOU HAD SOME VERSION OF THE DOCUMENTS.
WHY WOULDN'T YOU PROVIDE IT TO THE PUBLIC FOR TRANSPARENCY
PURPOSES.
11:39:50AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I CAN GOING FORWARD, BUT YOU ASKED FOR THIS
TO BE PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
11:39:56AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NOT JUST WHAT I ASKED FOR BUT TALKING OF $8
MILLION AND THE PUBLIC -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE
ADMINISTRATION WOULDN'T WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.
THE MAYOR HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE OF TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY.
A BASIC QUESTION.
HANNA AVENUE I ASKED A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE WHAT IS THE
RENTAL EQUIVALENCY AND YOU DECIDED NOT TO DO IT.
11:40:17AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THAT IS NOT TRUE, SIR.
WE PROVIDED THAT.
11:40:21AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NOT THAT I ASKED A QUESTION BUT A BASIC PART
OF POLICY ANALYSIS THAT ANYBODY WOULD DO.
MY SECOND QUESTION -- THE FIRST POINT I WOULD APPRECIATE IF
THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE TRANSPARENT WITH INFORMATION
LIKE THIS ESPECIALLY WITH BIG TICKET ITEMS WITH THE
PURCHASING CARDS -- WHAT IS THE LIMIT -- WHAT IS THE DOLLAR
LIMIT ON IT AND THE MOST -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT AUTHORITIES
ARE OUT THERE.
CAN SOMEBODY SPEND MILLION DOLLARS ON PURCHASING CARD.
11:40:48AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I DON'T KNOW, I WILL REFER THAT TO
PROCUREMENT WHICH IS PURCHASING CARDS AND I CAN PROVIDE THAT
ANSWER TO YOU.
11:40:56AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ARE WE GOING TO GET A SUMMARY LIST OF WHAT
WAS SPENT AND SOMEBODY PRESENT BACK TO US WHAT WAS SPENT ON
IT AND DO WE HAVE ANY APPROVAL AFTER THE FACT.
CAN ANYBODY -- IF THEY HAVE A PURCHASING LIMIT CAN THEY
SPEND WHATEVER THEY WANT ON THE PURCHASING CARD.
11:41:10AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THE LIMITS ARE INCREASED AND FIB FROM
PURCHASING -- THE LIMITS ARE INCREASED FOLLOWING AN
EMERGENCY AND FOLLOWING THE EMERGENCY EVENT THEY ARE REDUCED
BACK TO NORMAL LIMITS.
11:41:21AM >>BILL CARLSON:
AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS.
YOU SAID WE PREAPPROVED SOME OF THESE CONTRACTS.
WILL ANY OF THESE EXPENDITURES COME BACK TO US FOR APPROVAL
FOR ANY MONEY TO BE SPENT?
11:41:32AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
AGAIN, A TWO-PRONGED QUESTION.
THE FIRST QUESTION I BELIEVE YOU ASKED A RECONCILIATION AND
ACCOUNTING, MY WORDS.
THERE ABSOLUTELY WILL.
THERE HAS TO BE FOR FEDERAL AND STATE PURPOSES AND
HISTORICALLY WE HAVE PROVIDE THAT TO CITY COUNCIL.
IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL APPROVALS WITH EXPENDITURES
ASSOCIATED WITH THE EMERGENCY, I DON'T KNOW THE PARTICULAR
NUANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT I CAN FIND OUT.
AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE PREEMERGENCY, THE DECLARATION OF THE
EMERGENCY AND POST EMERGENCY AND THE RULES AND RESTRICTIONS
AND TRACKING NEEDS CHANGE BETWEEN THOSE THREE PERIODS.
11:42:05AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE TO JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE I HAVE
TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE BY CHARTER WE ARE REQUIRED TO
OVERSEE THE BUDGET AND CONTRACTS.
IF WE DON'T ASK THESE QUESTIONS WE ARE NOT DOING THE DUTY TO
HELP THE TAXPAYERS.
WE DESPERATELY NEED MONEY FOR POTHOLE REPAIRS AND TO APPROVE
$8 MILLION WITHOUT ANY INFORMATION UNTIL JUST NOW WITHOUT
DETAILED INFORMATION AND WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO APPROVE
CONTRACTS IS WORRY SOME TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY WONDER
WHY STREETS CAN'T BE REPAIRED AND SIDEWALKS.
YOU SAID THAT NO NEW CONTRACTS WERE APPROVED LAST WEEK.
WERE ANY CONTRACTS CANCELLED LAST WEEK?
11:42:51AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THAT I DON'T KNOW.
11:42:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
RELATED TO DISASTER RECOVERY?
11:42:55AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I DON'T KNOW.
I WILL RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION WHEN I CAN TALK TO THE
PROCUREMENT --
11:43:00AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SEND A MEMO FOR ALL COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY -- IF YOU SEND IT TO ALL CITY
COUNCILMEMBERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE IT PUBLIC FOR THE
PUBLIC.
THE LAST QUESTION IS, IF YOU GET 85% BACK FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT MONEY.
DO WE APPROVE WHERE THAT GOES AND IN A SLUSH FUND.
11:43:20AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
EXCELLENT QUESTION.
AGAIN, AS I SAID BEFORE, I FIND THE TERM "SLUSH FUND"
MISLEADING BUT I WILL USE THAT WORD IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO.
AND I WILL GIVE AN EXAMPLE, FOLLOWING HURRICANE IRMA, WE
DEPLETED OUR HURRICANE FUND AND TOOK A YEAR OR TWO TO
REPLENISH THAT.
DIRECT ANSWER WHEN THAT FUNDING IS REIMBURSED, WE WILL BE
PLACED IN THE HURRICANE RESERVE FUND.
11:43:46AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE PUT IT BACK IN
THERE.
11:43:49AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
WE WILL COME TO YOU TO APPROVE THAT, YES,
SIR.
IT IS A BUDGET TRANSACTION.
11:43:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:43:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THERE HE-WAY TRIFECTA: THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THE ITEM 7.234,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OF WHICH ONE
PARTIES COMING UP WITH $5.2 MILLION WHICH IS THE FEDS OR
FEMA.
THE OTHER IS PROVIDED BY 12.5% FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA OR
875,000 AND TWO AND A HALF PERCENT.
THE SUMS OF THE TOTAL EQUAL 7,234,000 OR SOMETHING OF THAT
DEGREE.
THIS IS ESTIMATE.
THESE ARE GUESSTIMATES WENT UP 850,000.
THESE ARE ESTIMATES.
WHEN YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY, YOU HAVE TO TAKE ACTION.
EITHER WAY YOU WILL BE CRITICIZED AUDITED BY FEMA.
HOW MANY YEARS DID IT GET BACK.
11:45:18AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
TOOK THREE YEARS.
AFTER THE HURRICANE, A LENGTHY PROCESS.
11:45:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU BORROWED THE DAY FROM THE RAINY DAY
FUND.
AND TO PASS IT OR NOT TO PASS IT OR TO CLEAN THE STREETS.
AND TO PAY WHAT IS ALREADY USED TO PAY OVERTIME PAY AND
CLEAN UP DEBRIS OFF THIS DONE, THE FOOD, THE TRUCKS AND
ENERGY AND WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU ARE PUTTING IN THERE OR
ANY CITY AND COUNTY.
CORRECT?
11:45:53AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IF I CAN ADD ON TO -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA,
YOU MADE A GOOD POINT.
WE INCUR THESE EXPENSES CONTRACTORS, PAYROLL OR SUPPLIES.
WE WILL PAY IT FROM SOME PLACE.
WE ARE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO DO THAT.
11:46:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. ROGERO?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, HANG ON ONE SECOND PLEASE.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, THIS IS ONE OF YOUR AGENDA ITEMS UNDER
FINANCE 37.
DO YOU WANT TO -- THROUGH THE CONSENT OR YOU WANT TO GO
AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION --
11:46:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
UP TO YOU.
NOT MINE.
YOU ARE THE CHAIRMAN.
I AM CHAIRMAN OF THE FINANCE.
IF THE COUNCIL WISHES FOR ME TO DO IT NOW, I WILL DO IT NOW.
11:46:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WILL YOU MIND GOING AHEAD BECAUSE WE WILL
HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT.
11:46:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 51 MAKING CERTAIN CHANGES IN THE
BUDGET AND FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30,
PROVIDING THE TRANSFER, LOCATION AND PREAPPROPRIATION
7,034,000 IN THE GENERAL FUND, SOLID WASTE OPERATION FUND
AND FEMA REIMBURSEMENT TO PROVIDE FOR EXPENSES RELATED TO
HURRICANE IAN.
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:47:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
11:47:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:47:18AM >>BILL CARLSON:
AS I STATED EARLIER, I HAVE DEEP CONCERNS
ABOUT THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY.
I HAVE CONCERNS OF THE ATTITUDE OF STAFF REGARDING MY
REQUEST FOR TRANSPARENCY.
IN LOOKING THROUGH THE INFORMATION THAT WE JUST GOT, MORE
THAN HALF OF THE MONEY IS GOING TOWARD STAFF.
I HAVE CONCERNS WHERE THE REST OF IT WILL GO AND HOW IT WILL
BE SPENT; HOWEVER, STAFF HAS PROMISE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
TRANSPARENCY AND GIVE US ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
IN GREAT HESITANCY AND WORRY I WILL GO AHEAD AND WORK FOR
THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP STAFF BEING PAID BUT
APPRECIATE IN THE FUTURE THAT STAFF WILL PROVIDE
TRANSPARENCY WITHOUT US ASKING AND WILL ALSO BE
COLLABORATIVE WITH TRANSPARENCY WHEN WE ASK FOR IT.
11:48:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:48:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. ROGERO, HOW MUCH IS IN THE FUND NOW?
11:48:15AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
7.24 MILLION.
11:48:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BASICALLY CLEAN IT UP WITH WHAT WE ARE
DOING TODAY.
11:48:22AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF THE EXPENSES AND
HOW MUCH THEY BECOME.
IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS ITEM, WE TAG THAT BOTH FOR
EXPENDITURES AND TRACKING.
A LONG WAY OF SAYING I DON'T KNOW YET.
11:48:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
COULD BE LESS OR MORE.
11:48:37AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, SIR.
11:48:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. ROGERO, I NEED TO ASK A QUESTION.
I THINK I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER.
ONE OF THE COUNCILMEN SAID HALF WAS GOING TO STAFF.
WE HAVE POLICE AND FIRE WORKING 24 HOURS -- EXCUSE ME 12
HOURS OFF, 12 HOURS ON THAT WENT INTO OVERTIME
CAN WE SAFELY SAY THAT THE MAJORITY OF THAT WENT TO OVERTIME
PAY BECAUSE OF THE EMERGENCY TO OUR CITY STAFF?
11:49:02AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I JUST DON'T -- I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO
THAT QUESTION AT THIS TIME.
AGAIN, THESE ARE ESTIMATES.
AND IN FACT I BELIEVE WE PAID PEOPLE TODAY AS WE ARE GOING
THROUGH THE INFORMATION.
WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT WAS PAID IN SERVICE OF THE EMERGENCY
AND WHAT IS PAID DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS.
THE CITY DOESN'T SIMPLY STOP BECAUSE THERE IS AN EMERGENCY.
AGAIN A RELATIVELY LONG-WINDED ANSWER I DON'T KNOW.
11:49:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I THINK I CAN SAFELY SAY BECAUSE OF OVERTIME
BECAUSE OF THE STATE OF EMERGENCY IS THE REASON WE HAVE TO
PAY STAFF MORE.
A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:49:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:49:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:49:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:49:45AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:49:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
11:49:48AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:49:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
11:49:50AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:49:54AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:49:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WANT TO RUN UP TO THAT
PODIUM RIGHT NOW.
11:50:05AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I WILL GET OUT OF YOUR WAY.
11:50:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK US TO ABOUT AGENDA
ITEM NUMBER 7.
11:50:16AM >>BRAD BAIRD:
BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF
INFRASTRUCTURE.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM 7, WHICH IS PALMA
CEIA WASTEWATER REHABILITATION PROJECT FOR 3.1 WITH
INSTITUFORM TECHNOLOGIES.
AND AIL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:50:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BAIRD.
11:50:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION.
11:50:39AM >> SECOND.
11:50:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION BY COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
EXCUSE ME ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:50:49AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:50:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
11:50:54AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:50:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:50:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:50:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:50:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
11:50:59AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:51:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.
11:51:04AM >>BRAD BAIRD:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8 IS FOR FOREST HILLS
WASTEWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM REHABILITATION IN THE AMOUNT OF
$5.6 MILLION AGAIN WITH INSTITUFORM TECHNOLOGIES.
AND I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:51:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COMMENT OR QUESTIONS?
ORLANDO GUDES.
11:51:23AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WON'T GO INTO THE DEEP WEEDS.
WE HAD A CONVERSATION TODAY.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WITH THE NUMBERS.
11:51:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WILL YOU GIVE US THE EVO ON THAT.
11:51:36AM >> PROUD OF THAT.
TOTALS 20.9% ON THIS ONE WHICH IS I BELIEVE HIGH FOR ONE OF
THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS OF WHICH BBE PARTICIPATION IS 4.6%
AND HBE IS 16.3%.
ASSOCIATED WITH MANHOLE REHABILITATION AND CLEANING, TVING
AND GROUNDING LINES.
11:52:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:52:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
AGAINST THE NUMBERS ARE GOING UP FOR THOSE
-- THOSE CLASSES.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE -- WE DON'T HAVE A LEVEL OF
SERVICE LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, BRAD.
WE INDICATED WHY.
BECAUSE PEOPLE GO TO QUESTION.
I GOT THIS HIGH NUMBER HERE.
ARE WE STILL TRYING TO PLAY A NUMBER GAME HERE.
AND WE NEED TO MAKE IT BOUND.
AND TRYING TO GET WHAT WE NEED TO GET FOR THOSE DIFFERENT
CLASSES.
I DO KNOW IT IS GOOD THAT WE FINALLY GOT THERE.
AND THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THAT PRODUCT AND SERVICE.
11:52:34AM >>BRAD BAIRD:
GOING FORWARD, WE WILL COMMUNICATE WHEN THEY
DON'T ACHIEVE LEVELS LIKE THIS.
WE WILL COMMUNICATE THAT.
THANK YOU.
11:52:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:52:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
11:52:50AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:52:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:52:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:52:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:52:55AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:52:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES
11:52:56AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:52:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9.
408.
11:53:07AM >> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
NOR THE RECORD CATE WELLS WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
ITEM 9, THESE ARE AMENDMENTS TO THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE
REQUIREMENT IN CHAPTER 27.
ALSO BEEN REFERRED TO I THINK INITIALLY AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD
TEXT AMENDMENT PROPOSAL AND THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE
PROPOSAL.
JULY 21, COUNCIL MADE A MOTION DIRECTING STAFF TO PROVIDE AN
UPDATE AND STATUS REPORT ON THIS ITEM.
SIMPLY STATED, THERE HAS BEEN NO FURTHER ACTION SUBJECT TO
THE FEBRUARY 24 CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP.
GIVEN THE PASSAGE OF TIME, I THOUGHT IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO
DO A BRIEF PRESENTATION WITH YOUR INDULGENCE WHAT WAS
DISCUSSED ON FEBRUARY 24.
I SEE NODDING HEADS, SO THANK YOU.
11:53:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PLEASE PROCEED.
11:53:54AM >>CATE WELLS:
THE PROCESS STARTED AS A CITY INITIATED TEXT
AMENDMENT.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WAS TO HAVE INCREASED AWARENESS OF
PUBLIC HEARINGS.
I DID FILE A MEMO.
WITH THE MEMO THERE IS ATTACHED A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL
PROPOSAL, AND IF IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL, I MADE THIS SUMMARY
WHICH IS ON THE OVERHEAD.
AND AS SUBMITTED, THE PROPOSAL REQUESTED CHANGES THAT WILL
REQUIRE NOTICE TO BE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS AT THE
PHYSICAL AND MAILING ADDRESS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE
EVENT THE TWO WERE DIFFERENT.
NOTICE TO BE MADE TO RENTERS, INCREASING THE NOTICE AREA FOR
ALL APPLICATIONS FROM 250 FEET TO 500 FEET.
AND FOR APPLICATIONS REQUESTING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL,
COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL USES, THE NOTICE AREA WILL BE
INCREASED TO A QUARTER MILE AND A COMMUNITY MEETING WILL BE
REQUIRED 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THE CITY COUNCIL HEARING.
THEY ALSO REQUESTED THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION -- CONTACT
INFORMATION BE ADDED FOR THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD
ORGANIZATIONS.
AND IN THE EVENT THERE IS NOT A REGISTERED ORGANIZATION FOR
A CERTAIN PROJECT, THAT YOU THEN START TO LOOK AT THE
ABUTTING REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS FOR NOTICE.
AND LASTLY, INCLUDE A FULL-SIZED HARD COPY OF THE MOST
RECENTLY FILED PD SITE PLAN WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT EITHER A
SPECIAL REQUEST OR REZONING TO PD.
WHEN THE REQUESTED -- SINCE THE -- SINCE MANY OF THE
REQUESTED CHANGES DEAL WITH THE NOTICE AREA, WANTED TO TAKE
A MOMENT TO SUMMARIZE THE CURRENT NOTICE REQUIREMENTS IN OUR
CODE AS WELL AS THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.
HERE IS ANOTHER OVERHEAD JUST TO BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE.

THE STATUTORY NOTICE REQUIREMENT FOR REZONING IS ANOTHER
LAND USE DECISION ARE SET OUT IN SECTION 156.041 OF THE
FLORIDA STATUTES.
THESE REQUIRE TO BE READ ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS AND NOTICE TO
BE PUBLISHED IN A NEWSPAPER TEN DAYS PRIOR TO ADOPTION OF
THE ORDINANCE SO THAT WOULD BE TEN DAYS PRIOR TO SECOND
READING ON THE APPLICATION.
SUPPLEMENTAL NOTICE REQUIREMENTS ARE ESTABLISHED IN SECTION
27-149 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THESE REQUIRE MAILING NOTICE TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 250
FEET.
SUBJECT PROPERTY, POSTING NOTICE ON THE PROPERTY AT LEAST 30
DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THE HEARING, AND THEN FILING AN AFFIDAVIT
WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE CONFIRMING COMPLIANCE WITH
THESE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.
UNDER THE STATUTORY AND SUPPLEMENTAL NOTICE REQUIREMENTS ARE
INTENDED TO PROVIDE INTERESTED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH
INFORMATION ABOUT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION OR

ORDINANCE.
TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT TIME TO DETERMINE HOW THE APPLICATION
OR ORDINANCE MAY OR MAY NOT IMPACT THEIR INTEREST, AND
LASTLY BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE OFFICIAL ACTION IS
TAKEN.
STAFF RESEARCHED THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS OF OTHER
JURISDICTIONS AND A SUMMARY OF THAT RESEARCH IS ATTACH TO
THE MEMORANDUM FILED WITH COUNCIL.
YOU WILL FIND THAT THE NOTICE AREAS THAT WE LOOKED AT RANGE
GENERALLY BETWEEN 200 FEET ARCHED 500 FEET.
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY RECOGNIZING THAT YOU HAVE GOT AN URBAN
OR AN URBAN SERVICE AREA WHERE THERE IS MORE DENSITY THAN A
MORE RURAL AREA, IN THE URBAN SERVICE AREA THE REQUIREMENT
IS 300 FEET NOTICE, AND IN THE COUNTY IT'S 500 FEET.
STAFF FOUND THAT WHILE NOTICE AREAS MAY NOT BE CONSISTENT
ACROSS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, THEY ARE GENERALLY CONSISTENT
WITHIN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE APPLICATION AND DON'T
GENERALLY DIFFER BASED UPON THE REQUESTED USE.
WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPOSAL, THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY
DISCUSSION, AND I THINK IT'S WARRANTED IF COUNCIL WANTS TO
MOVE FORWARD WITH IT TO DISCUSS THE BASIS FOR EXPANDING THE
NOTICE AREA IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S DESIRE.
IN ADDITION TO THE LEGAL ISSUES THAT WE HAD RAISED
PREVIOUSLY DURING THE WORKSHOP IN FEBRUARY, THERE WERE MORE

ISSUES THAT WERE DISCUSSED.
SECTION 27-149 ESTABLISHES THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL
TYPES OF LAND USE DECISIONS, KNOW IT JUST REZONING.
SO IT DEALS WITH CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS WITH BLC OR
ARC, REVIEW HEARINGS BEFORE THIS COUNCIL, DEALS WITH
VARIANCES THAT GO TO THE VRB, BUT IN THE EVENT COUNCIL IS
INTERESTED IN CHANGING THE NOTICE REQUIREMENT, I WOULD ASK
THAT THEY BE LIMITED TO THE REZONING IN THE LAND USE
APPLICATIONS THAT COME BEFORE YOU, AND THAT IMPACTS THE
APPLICATIONS THAT GO BEFORE THE OTHER BOARDS.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S CERTAINLY SUBJECT TO DISCUSSION.
I WANT TO -- WHEN THIS ADMINISTRATION CAME INTO PLAY, THERE
WAS A DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY TEAM THAT WAS CREATED,
AND LOOKED AT MANY ISSUES, INCLUDING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
CODE, AND ONE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF THAT TEAM WAS
TO HAVE PREDICTABILITY AND UNIFORMITY IN THE CODE TO THE
EXTENT POSSIBLE, AND IN DECEMBER OF 2020, THE COUNCIL
APPROVED AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 27 WHERE WE HAD UNIFORM
NOTICE PROCEDURES.
IN THE EVENT COUNCIL WISHES TO REVISIT THAT WE WILL BE
MOVING AWAY FROM HAVING THAT UNIFORM APPROACH TO NOTICE.
WITH THAT IS A CONCERN, WILL THERE BE AN THAN CREASE IN THE
NOTICES?
NO MATTER WHAT TYPE OF APPLICATION, THE NOTICE AREA IS 250
FEET.

ONCE YOU START CHANGING IT, THERE'S THAT POTENTIAL.
OTHER CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED, INCLUDING RENTERS IN THE
NOTICE AREA.
IT'S BEEN A BIG TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.
WHEN PROPERTY OWNERS ARE REQUIRED TO BE NOTICED, THERE IS A
LIST AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED BY THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
PROPERTY APPRAISER THAT WILL IDENTIFY ALL OWNERS OF PROPERTY
WITHIN THAT RADIUS.
THAT SIMILAR LIST, I AM NOT AWARE THAT IT EXISTS FOR
RENTERS, AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WITH HAVING IDENTIFYING A
WAY TO IDENTIFY WHO THE RENTERS OR THE TENANTS ARE WITHIN
THE NOTICE AREA OF THE AND THERE WAS ONE APPLICATION THAT
COUNCIL SAW RECENTLY, AND THE TENANTS WITHIN THE REZONED
AREA, THE PROPOSED REZONED AREA, EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT NOT
EFFING RECEIVING WRITTEN NOTICE.
AND WHEN I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE APPLICATION, YOU HAD
CERTAIN FOLIO NUMBERS.
SO WITH THE FOLLOW WHY NUMBERS, YOU CAN IDENTIFY THE OWN OR
OF THE PROPERTY.
WHAT WE DON'T GET FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER ARE THE
TENANTS WITHIN THAT FOLIO NUMBER, AND THE EXTENT TO WHICH
THE ADDRESSES DIFFER FROM THE GENERAL PHYSICAL ADDRESS FOR
THE FOLIO NUMBER.
THAT'S JUST AN OBJECTIVE CONCERN THAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED, IF
WE WERE TO INCLUDE RENTERS OR TENANTS, AS REQUIRED FOR THE

NOTICE.
THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL REQUESTED AMENDING THE DEFINITION OF
AGGRIEVED PERSON TO INCLUDE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE
PARROT PROPOSED EXPANDED NOTICE AREA.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT REACHED OUT TO ME THIS WEEK AND LET ME
KNOW THAT THEY ACTUALLY -- THEY AGREE AFTER FURTHER
DISCUSSION, THERE IS AGREEMENT AND SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED
DEFINITIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED IN FEBRUARY, AND THEY ARE
REMOVING THAT PART OF THE REQUEST.
SO CURRENTLY IN OUR CODE IS TO INCLUDE AN APPLICANT OR OWNER
OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE 250-FOOT NOTICE AREA FROM THE SUBJECT
PARCEL.
SO WITH WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED IN FEBRUARY IS THAT WE CHANGE
THE DEFINITION OF AGGRIEVED PERSON SO THAT IT ALIGNS WITH
THE COMMON LAW DEFINITION AND HOW THE COURT INTERPRETS
ITSELF WHEN THEY LOOK AT ISSUES OF STANDING.
AND ONE EXAMPLE, AND IT'S THE DEFINITION ADOPTED BY THE CITY
OF ORLANDO, TO BRIEFLY SHOW, THEY DEFINE AN AGGRIEVED PERSON
A AS PERSON WHO WILL SUFFER A NEGATIVE EFFECT TO A PROTECTED
INTEREST AS A RESULT OF THE QUASI JUDICIAL ACTION SOUGHT BY
THE APPLICANT.
THE ALD ADVERSELY AFFECTED INTEREST MAY BE SHARED IN COMMON
WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE BUT SHALL
EXCEED THE GENERAL INTEREST AND COMMUNITY GOOD SHARED BY ALL
PERSONS.

IT GOES ON TO CLARIFY THAT IN ASSOCIATION -- A ASSOCIATION
SHALL NOT BE DEEMED TO BE AN ADVERSELY AFFECTED PERSON.
SO KEEPING IN MIND WITH THE INITIAL GOAL AND WITH THE
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, THAT WAS INCREASING AWARENESS OF THE
HEARING IN FEBRUARY BUT WAS RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL, IS THAT
WE, THE CITY, KEEP NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AS CURRENTLY CODIFIED
IN SECTION 27-149, WE AMEND THE DEFINITION OF AGGRIEVED
PERSON, AND THAT I WOULD LIKE THE IDEA AND I STAFF LIKES THE
IDEA OF REQUIRING A COMMUNITY MEETING FOR THE REZONING
BEFORE YOU AND WHETHER THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO PUT IN
REZONING, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING FOR COUNCIL TO
DISCUSS, TO THE EXTENT YOU ARE INTERESTED AND SUPPORTIVE,
SHOULD IT APPLY TO ALL REZONINGS OR JUST CERTAIN TYPES OF
REZONINGS.
I KNOW I COVERED A LOT, AND IT'S VERY CONDENSED FROM
FEBRUARY, I DIDN'T WANT TO DO AN ENTIRE PRESENTATION AS WE
DID BEFORE.
THANK YOU.
12:03:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:03:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I SEE WITH ALL OF THIS
IS PEOPLE ARE VISUAL PEOPLE.
AND IF THEY DON'T SEE SOMETHING, THEY DON'T KNOW SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DON'T CHANGE OR DO WHAT THE COUNTY DOES.
WE NEED TO CHANGE, THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, BUT DECIDE TO
CHANGE, SO ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY, I CAN GO, FOR EXAMPLE,

50th, THEY HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING, THEY HAVE AN ISSUE,
THE DATE, TIME, WHATEVER, PEOPLE STOP, THEY LOOK, THEY SEE
WHAT'S GOING ON.
YOU CAN'T SEE THOSE LITTLE SIGNS.
IT'S RIDICULOUS.
SO WE NEED TO ADD THE SIGNAGE, NUMBER ONE.
AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE NOTICE, MAYBE 300 FEET.
OKAY.
I CAN LIVE WITH 300.
I CAN LIVE WITH THE SIGNAGE.
RENTERS ARE TRANSIENT PEOPLE.
BUT THE NOTICE GOING TO THAT HOUSE, THEY MAY -- THE NOTICE
GOES TO THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND THE OWNER, CURRENT RESIDENT,
SO THE THREE OPTIONS YOU CAN USE, I THINK YOU CAN SEE HOW
THAT WORKS.
THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
CHANGE THE SIGNAGE, AT THE NOTICE.
I THINK GO TO THEM AND YOU WILL BE ALL RIGHT.
12:04:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:05:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILMAN MEMBER GUDES, I WAS GOING TO SAY,
LARGER SIGNS, BECAUSE WITHOUT MY GLASSES ON, I CAN'T SEE
WHAT'S ON THE SIGNS ESPECIALLY THE MARKER, IT STAYS IN THE
SUN, AND IF IT'S COMING TO COUNCIL, GOING TO ANOTHER BOARD,
I DON'T KNOW, AND I AM HERE, IT'S VERY HARD TO SEE.

SO A BIGGER SIGN WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, AND MORE COST
EFFECTIVE I THINK FOR THE APPLICANT.
I KNOW MAILING IS NOT A FORTUNE, BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE
MANPOWER AND WHATNOT, BUT EXPANDING THAT NOTICE FROM 250 TO
300 I THINK IS REASONABLE.
500 FEET IS, WHAT, ONE TENTH OF A MILE GIVE OR TAKE.
BUT NOT IN THE MIDDLE BUT A MORE REASONABLE ANXIOUS I THINK
300 FEET IS HELPFUL.
BUT THE SIGNS RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAMPAIGN, WE PUT OUR
CAMPAIGNS SIGNS, WE WANT PEOPLE TO SEE IT.
THESE SIGNS THAT WE USE THE WHITE SIGNS ARE NEARLY
IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE.
EVEN SQUINTING AND PULLING OVER, AND I JUST KNOW IT'S GOING
TO BE A BIG HEARING, BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN MEMBER
GUDES SAID.
THANK YOU.
12:06:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
YEAH, AND FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, MS. WELLS, FOR YOUR
PRESENTATION.
IT WAS VERY IN-DEPTH, PROFESSIONAL, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF
HOMEWORK INTO THAT.
WE ALL APPRECIATE THAT.
THE SUGGESTION, THE ONLY CONCERN I HAD MUCH IT, THE WAY THAT
I SEE THIS, AND I AGREE WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
SAID, IS THIS IS A GOOD GOVERNMENT MEASURE WHERE WE WANT

PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT
BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T RESULT IN
SOMETHING BEING OVERLY BROAD OR BURDENSOME TO SOME
INDIVIDUAL WHO CAN'T AFFORD AN ATTORNEY, ET CETERA,
ET CETERA, AND I THINK BY GOING TO REZONINGS THAT ARE GOING
TO OCCUR IN COUNCIL, FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN PREVENT SOME OF
THAT.
SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY WELL-INTENTIONED,
IT CAN DO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS, AND I THINK IT CAN HAVE SOME
POSITIVE EFFECT.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU,.
12:07:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:07:14PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
AND I WILL ECHO THAT.
THANKS, MS. WELLS, FOR THE BRIEFING TODAY BUT ALSO THE
BRIEFING BEFORE THE MEETING.
I THINK WE NEED TO EXPAND IT -- YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PUBLIC
SAYS, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT 300 IS A REASONABLE ADDITION, THAT
WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, AND WE HAVE TO
BE REASONABLE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED ARE NOTIFIED.
THE SIGNS, I AGREE WITH THAT, ALSO, CAN'T READ THE SIPES,
BUT ALSO TRASHY.
SOMETIMES THEY END UP BEING TRASHED.

AND IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHAT EXACTLY THEY SAY.
YOU SAID COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
I'M SORRY IF YOU SAID THIS, BUT DID YOU SAY TO INCLUDE
SPECIFICALLY NOTIFYING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS?
12:08:07PM >>CATE WELLS:
THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE CURRENTLY
NOTIFIED.
WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED THROUGH THE AMENDMENT WAS TO INCLUDE
ADDITIONAL CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION AND IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT'S
COMING BEFORE YOU, WHERE IT'S NOT A REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD
ORGANIZATION, TO THEN LOOK AT THE ABUTTING NEIGHBORHOOD
ORGANIZATION.
AND THE ONE CONCERN I RECALL FROM STAFF IS THE WAY OUR
REGISTRATION PROCESS IS.
IT'S NOT SET UP BASED ON THE PROPERTY ADDRESS.
IT WILL PULL UP THAT WAY, BUT THE LIST OF NEIGHBORHOOD
ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE THEN REQUIRED TO BE NOTIFIED IS BASED
ON THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT REQUEST TO BE OPTED IN FOR THAT
AREA.
SO WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT HOW THE MANNER IN WHICH WE ARE
CAPTURING THE ORGANIZATION IN OUR DATABASE, HOW THAT WOULD
TRANSLATE TO WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED, AND IF THERE'S A WAY
TO ADDRESS THAT.
12:09:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO WHAT ABOUT COUNCILMEMBER GUDES IDEA ALSO
ABOUT NOT ONLY SENDING IT TO IT OWNERS BUT THE CURRENT

RESIDENT?
IS THAT POSSIBLE?
12:09:20PM >>CATE WELLS:
I BELIEVE THAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER MAY
GENERATE A SEPARATE LIST.
IT'S NOT JUST BY TENANT.
SO WE CAN -- I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT TO SEE WHAT
EXACTLY CAN BE GENERATED AND THE REASON WE RELY ON THAT
LIST, THAT HAS BEEN THE LIST THAT THE POST OFFICE GOES BY
AND STAMPS EVERY PAGE TO ENSURE THAT.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN OBJECTIVE WAY TO CREATE
THOSE LISTS.
SO IF I CAN LOOK AT THAT, I THINK THAT'S AN EASY ADDITION.
12:09:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AND THE OTHER WAY OF SAYING IT, NOT ONLY TO
THE PROPERTY OWNERS BUT TO THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
12:09:51PM >>CATE WELLS:
UNDERSTOOD.
IF I MAY MAKE ONE COMMENT.
THE DISCUSSION ABOUT 300 FEET, IF THAT IS WHAT COUNCIL
DECIDES, I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO STAFF, WITH
THAT 300-FOOT RADIUS, WOULD WE THEN BE SUPPORTIVE OF PERHAPS
ALL APPLICATIONS.
IT'S NOT A TREMENDOUS INCREASE.
AND THEN AGAIN WE HAVE UNIFORMITY IN OUR CODE.
IT WAS THE CONCERN INITIALLY WHERE WE ARE EXPANDING TO 500
FEET AND POSSIBLY A QUARTER MILE.
IT WAS A CONCERN OF HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT DIFFERENT TYPES OF

APPLICATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE THE SAME IMPACT AS A REZONING.
12:10:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:10:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I BELIEVE THE SIGNS WE PUT UP NOW ARE PAPER BOARD?
THEY ARE NOT PLASTIC VINYL, ARE THEY?
ARE THEY VINYL?
THEY SHOULD LAST A LONG TIME.
I AM JUST SAYING THINKING ABOUT IF YOU DO THIS FOR SIGNS,
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO, DOES THIS MEAN THAT THE SIGN CODES
HAVE TO CHANGE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA?
BECAUSE ONCE THEY SEE THESE SIGNS THEY ARE GOING TO SAY THE
CITY CAN DO IT, I WANT TO DO IT.
12:10:54PM >>CATE WELLS:
I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO RECOMMEND --
12:10:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WELL, YOU ARE THE ATTORNEY.
12:11:00PM >>CATE WELLS:
THE SIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR REZONINGS ARE SET
OUT IN CHAPTER 27, AND IT'S SPECIFIC TO NOTICES OF PUBLIC
HEARINGS.
SO I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO DISTINGUISH IT FROM OTHERS.
12:11:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:11:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:11:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AGAIN.
AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY ABOUT
THIS AS WELL.
IN ADDITION TO THE SIGNS, YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED DIFFERENT

COLORS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS, A REZONING MIGHT BE GREEN, A
VARIANCE MIGHT BE BLUE, WHATEVER.
SO AGAIN, AND A BIG CITY OF TAMPA SEAL.
THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT WHEN YOU DRIVE BY AND YOU SEE OUR
CURRENT SIGNS, YOU CAN'T TELL JUST VISUALLY THAT IT'S THE
CITY OF TAMPA, AND NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
SIGNS, THAT SEAL IS THE FIRST THING YOU SEE.
SO I WANT TO BRING THIS BACK.
WE ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT ALL SORTS OF REZONING
HOUSING ISSUES AT THE WORKSHOP AT THE END OF THIS MONTH,
OCTOBER 27th, AND YOU AND I HAVE HAD TALKED ABOUT WHEN
WE GET THESE IDEAS, AND WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, AND I KNOW
THAT RIGHT NOW T.H.A.N. IS TRYING TO HAVE A MEETING WITH, I
BELIEVE, THE TAMPA BAY BUSINESS -- BUILDERS ASSOCIATION?
IS THAT IT?
YES?
NO?
WELL, THEY WILL LET ME KNOW.
BUT, ANYWAY, THEY ARE WORKING ON MEETINGS WITH APPLICANT,
BASICALLY, SO THAT THEY COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT
THEY COULD AGREE ON.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO -- THAT WILL BE MY MOTION AT THE END OF
THIS DISCUSSION, IS TO BRING BACK SOME OF THESE IDEAS, AND
WHAT A SIGN WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT WOULD BE THE COST IF WE
MADE SIGNS BIGGER, WOULD WE HAVE TO DO A -- INSTALLING THE

SIGNS?
I MEAN, WHAT KINDS OF THINGS ARE WE LOOKING AT?
SO THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT WE COULD COME BACK ON THE
27th WITH JUST A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.
BUT SO FAR I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS REGARDING IT.
AND DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY, I KNOW YOU AND I ALSO TALKED
ABOUT HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THE TENANT, BUT NOT JUST THE
TENANTS, BUT APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND THE PROPERTY APPRAISER
KNOWING THE ADDRESS BUT NOT EVERY SINGLE APARTMENT NUMBER IN
EACH AREA.
SO WHAT COULD WE DO ABOUT THAT?
THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT.
12:13:41PM >>CATE WELLS:
QUICKLY, IF I MAY RESPOND TO THAT, IF THERE
IS SUPPORT TO CHANGE THE SIGNS, AND THE ONE THING WE WILL
WANT TO DO IS LOOK AT THE COST AND THE INSTALLATION AND
THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT A COST THAT AT THIS POINT OUR FEES
WOULD COVER, BUT IF THE SIGNS ARE MUCH LARGER, AND REALLY
BRING ATTENTION TO THE REQUEST THAT'S BEING MADE, IF I MAY
SUGGEST, OR IN THE SITUATION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THE TENANTS
ON THE PROPERTY THAT ARE BEING IMPACTED BY THE PROPOSED
REZONING, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY, YOU KNOW, GREAT
WAY TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON YOUR PROPERTY, AND THEN OF
COURSE THERE'S ALWAYS CONTACT INFORMATION IF YOU NEED MORE
INFORMATION.
BUT, YES, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY AN OBJECTIVE

METHODOLOGY TO IDENTIFY TENANTS OR RENTERS, WE'LL LOOK INTO
THAT.
BUT IT HAS TO BE EFFECTIVE, TO THE EXTENT THAT IT REQUIRES
SOMEONE TO MANUALLY LOOK AT THE NOTICED AREA AND GENERATE
IT.
THAT RIGHT THERE HAS THE ELEMENT FOR ERROR, AND THEN YOU
HAVE A MISNOTICE, AND WE WANT TO AVOID THAT TYPE OF
SITUATION.
12:14:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE -- COUNSEL?
12:14:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DO HAVE A QUESTION JUST FOR
CLARIFICATION, IF YOUR MOTION IS GOING TO BE BRINGING IT
BACK ON THE 27th.
YOU HAD MENTIONED REZONING.
BUT COUNCIL DOES OTHER THINGS OTHER THAN REZONINGS,
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, SPECIAL USE APPLICATIONS OR REVIEW
HEARINGS AS WELL.
12:15:14PM >>BILL CARLSON:
EVERYTHING.
12:15:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
EVERYTHING.
THANK YOU.
12:15:16PM >>JOSPEH CITRON:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:15:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IF COUNCIL WAS ABOUT TO WRAP IT UP, BRING
IT BACK ON THE 27th.
I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR IT LONG DOWN THE ROAD AFTER THE
27th.
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WAITING AND WAITING AND WAITING. I WANT TO

MAKE SURE WHEN WE COME BACK ON THE 27th THAT WE ALREADY
HAVE SOME OF COUNCIL'S IDEAS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, LAID OUT.
OR WE CAN COME BACK BEFORE THAT AND HAVE THEIR PLAN LAID
OUT.
AND WE NEED TO COME BACK AND GET SOMETHING GOING AND MOVE
DOWN THE ROAD.
IT'S GONE ON LONG ENOUGH.
12:15:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I BELIEVE WITH IT COME BACK ON THE
27th IT'S A CERTAIN CYCLE BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE PART OF
A CODE CHANGE?
OR BECAUSE IT'S PROCEDURALLY IT COULD BE DONE OUTSIDE OF THE
CYCLE?
12:16:13PM >>CATE WELLS:
I WOULD RECOMMEND THIS BE INCLUDED IN THE
JANUARY CYCLE WITH ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS, AND THERE ALSO
WOULD BE ISSUES WITH REGARD TO REVIEW HEARINGS AT COUNCIL'S
REQUEST, IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING
TOGETHER, AND IT WILL GIVE STAFF TIME TO WORK THROUGH THE
AMENDMENT AS WELL AS THE IMPLICATIONS ON THE COST OF THE
SIGNS AND HOW WE WOULD ADDRESS THAT.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO
ADDRESS IT AND WE MIGHT HEAR SOME OTHER IDEAS.
THANK YOU.
12:16:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK TO CM 21-69408, WHICH IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9?
12:16:56PM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT, LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.

I JUST WANT TO SHOW RIGHT HERE THAT IF YOU NOTICE HERE, YOU
WILL SEE THAT JACKSONVILLE IS 350 FEET, MIAMI IS 500 FEET
BROWARD IS 500 FEET, TALLAHASSEE IS 1,000 FEET, AND I ALSO
WANT TO NOTICE THEY DO HAVE SOME OTHER DISTANCES FOR CERTAIN
USES.
FOR INSTANCE, IN BROWARD COUNTY, IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO A
BIG BOX STORE IT'S 4 MILES AND IN ORLANDO BIG BOX IS 2,000
FEET.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE ORIGINAL THAT MS. WELLS WAS
REFERRING TO, HER PRESENTATION WAS EXTREMELY ACCURATE.
THE DISCUSSION WITH VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND AMONGST
OURSELVES, WE HAVE CHANGED IT TO TRY TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THE
CONCERNS THAT CAME UP.
AND WE LIKE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO THE AGGRIEVED
PERSON AND WE LIKE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
WE WITHDREW OURS AND SUBSTITUTED THERE IS, ALSO TWEAKED A
LOT OF THINGS BASED ON FEEDBACK WE GOT ABOUT CONCERNS.
WE ARE MEETING SOON WITH THREE DIFFERENT LAND USE ATTORNEYS
TO DISCUSS WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT WE CAN COME TO AGREE ON.
WE PLAN TO MEET WITH, AGAIN WITH CITY STAFF AND THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT, AND TRY TO WORK OUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
I WANT TO SAY THAT THE RENTER ISSUE, OUR SOLUTION TO THE
OBJECTIONS WAS, AS YOU ALL ALLUDED TO, GOES TO THE PROPERTY
ADDRESS IF AND ONLY THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS DIFFERENT.

THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
IT CAN BE DONE.
I HAVE A MAN WHO LIVES ON MY STREET, HAS LIVED THERE RENTING
FOR SEVEN YEARS, HE'S A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
THE PERSON WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY LIVES IN OHIO.
AND THE OTHER RENTER SITUATION WE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS IS
ONLY IF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS MULTIFAMILY.
BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THE DIFFICULTY OF DOING IT MORE THAN
THAT.
HALF OF THE CITIZENRY IN THIS CITY ARE RENTERS, AND RIGHT
NOW, NONE OF THEM HAVE THE RIGHT TO ANY NOTICE ABOUT
ANYTHING, NOT A SINGLE ONE.
AND SO WE CAN'T SOLVE THE ENTIRE PROBLEM BUT WE FEEL IF THE
SUBJECT PROPERTY, SOMEONE'S HOME, THEY HAVE BEEN LIVING IN
THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, THE KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL THERE, IF
THEIR HOMES ARE GOING TO BE DESTROYED, AT LEAST THE COURTESY
OF A NOTICE.
THE BIGGER SIGNS ARE EXCELLENT.
WE ARE ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.
RIGHT NOW THE COUNTY WILL HAVE THE BIG SIGNS WITHIN THE CITY
SOMETIMES, AND I NEVER HEARD THAT, SPEAKING TO MR. MIRANDA'S
CONCERN, I SEE IT ON BAY TO BAY AND DALE MABRY, SO WE WOULD
LOVE THE BIGGER SIGNS.
AND WE DO WANT TO DISCUSS THIS.
WE WOULD LIKE BIGGER THAN 300 FEET AND WE WOULD LIKE TO

EXPLAIN FURTHER IF SOMEONE IS ASKING FOR A VARIANCE FOR THE
SHED TO BE 6 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE INSTEAD OF 7 FEET,
THAT'S A LOT DIFFERENCE THAN A 1200 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX
OR BIG BOX STORE.
[BELL SOUNDS]
SO WE WANT TO ADDRESS ALL OF THAT.
THANK YOU.
12:20:07PM >> GOOD MORNING.
IS IT STILL MORNING?
MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR, AND THIS LITTLE PowerPoint
SLIDE YOU GUYS SAW TWO YEARS AGO ON MY BIRTHDAY, YOU MIGHT
REMEMBER IT, WE WERE IN THE CONVENTION CENTER AND MR.
DANIELS TOOK HIS SHIRT OFF.
OKAY.
BUT IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS THAT.
SO THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT OF 216 UNITS.
THESE BLUE SPOTS WERE NOTIFIED.
THIS ORANGE ONE IS THE ONLY ENTRANCE TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
OKAY?
WE WILL BE MEETING THOSE FOLKS EVERY SINGLE DAY IN MY
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I CAME HERE.
I WANT TO SHOW UP ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
LET'S LOOK AT THIS FOR JUST A SECOND.

SO THIS SLIDE HERE -- AND I AM SORRY FOR MY PRETTY
COLORING -- BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE 250-FOOT LINE IS
RIGHT THERE, OKAY?
EVERYBODY WITHIN THAT LINE DOESN'T KNOW.
THESE ARE 205 APARTMENTS.
THIS IS A SECONDARY STREET RIGHT HERE.
OKAY?
AND IF YOU GO OUT TO BID, THE CITY STAFF CREATED A DIFFERENT
DRAWING THAT GOES OUT TO A THOUSAND FEET.
I PERSONALLY HANDED OUT A FLYER TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO
LIVED ON THOSE STREETS.
I BELIEVE THAT'S THE TIME PEOPLE COULDN'T CALL ANYMORE, IF I
REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
BUT ALL THOSE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE IMPACTED BY THIS, EVERY
SINGLE DAY, HAVE NO NOTIFICATION.
THAT'S NOT FAIR.
AND THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE LONG-TIME HOMEOWNERS.
AND I ALSO WANT TO SHOW YOU FOR THAT EXACT SAME PROJECT,
HERE IS WHAT IT COST THEM TO SEND IT OUT.
12.47, 11.18.
THAT'S $23. IT ROUGHLY COSTS 55-CENT FOR A STAMP, DOUBLE
THAT, $46.
THAT'S WHAT THAT DEVELOPER HAD TO SEND OUT FOR NOTIFICATION.
IS IT GOING TO MAKE THAT BIG A DEAL?
I'M SORRY, YOU SPENT MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

BUILDING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND THIS NOT GOING TO PUT A
BURDEN ON YOU.
SORRY.
AND WE LEARNED THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT CAN BE GIVEN.
THE REASON WHY WE WANT THIS CHANGE HAS NOTHING TO DO
WITH LEGAL STANDING. IT REALLY DOESN'T.
IT MAKES SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE KNOW WHAT'S
GOING ON.
WE HAVE ALSO ASKED IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS NOT
SPLIT UP THAT THEY CONTACT T.H.A.N.
THAT WAS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S IDEA AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT
IDEA.
TWO DAYS AGO WE GOT A CALL ABOUT THE AGENDA TONIGHT, THE
SECOND READING.
THE THING ABOUT IT IS WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT SO WE CAN'T
HELP THOSE FOLKS.
SO BOTTOM LINE IS, WE ARE WILL TO TAKE ON SOME OF THAT,
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE PICK UP THEIR PHONE
AND THEY CALL THE DEVELOPER WHO TELLS THEM, OH, WE ARE NOT
GOING TO DO ANYTHING.
AND THAT HAPPENED TO ME PERSONALLY BEFORE I EVER WALKED
THROUGH THE DOORS OF CITY COUNCIL.
[BELL SOUNDS]
OH, WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING
ABOUT IT. THAT'S THE STORY AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT.

12:23:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
12:23:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MS. POYNOR, CAN YOU PUT THAT BACK UP?
12:23:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
12:23:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THOUGHT I WAS, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR THE PERMISSION.
12:23:44PM >> THIS ONE?
12:23:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, MA'AM.
SO YOUR BIG RED SCHEMATIC IN THE MIDDLE, IS THAT A PROPERTY
THAT IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED?
12:23:54PM >> IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED.
I THINK THEY HAVE ALREADY GOT THE PO ON IT.
12:23:59PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO YOU SAID --
12:24:00PM >> THE RED IS THE NOTICE LINE.
12:24:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
AND YOUR PERMIT GOES OUT TO 500?
12:24:08PM >> NO, THAT'S A THOUSAND.
AT SO POINT CITY COUNCIL ASKED FOR THE THOUSAND-FOOT MARK TO
BE PUT ON ALL OF THEIR REZONINGS AND THAT WAS BACK WHEN MARY
SANTIAGO WAS STILL HERE.
12:24:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I AM GLAD I SAW THAT, BECAUSE SOMETIMES
SEEING A VISUAL MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
PEOPLE ARE VISUAL LEARNERS AT TIMES.
AND WITH YOU SHOWING THAT DESIGN RIGHT THERE, MAYBE THIS
DISCUSSION FOR A WORKSHOP BECAUSE I AM LOOKING AT A BIGGER
PICTURE NOW THAN WHAT I WAS IMAGINING AS, YOU KNOW.
AND IT'S A DIFFERENT SCHEMATIC WITH A DIFFERENT KIND -- SO

THANK YOU FOR THE DRAWING.
12:24:49PM >> THIS HERE, I OWN IT AND YOU SHOULD SEE THE INCREASE IN
TRAFFIC.
12:24:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:24:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU PUT THAT UP?
AND THIS IS WHY, I MEAN, THE NUMBERS SOUND GOOD, BUT WHEN
YOU SEE THAT MOST OF THAT IS TREES AND ROAD, AND HART, SO I
KNOW THAT THE OTHER THING I THREW OUT THERE WAS MAIN JUST
THE NUMBER OF HOMES BUT I THINK THAT BECOMES TOO CONFUSING.
SO I THINK 500.
SO WHEN STAFF COMES BACK WITH IT, IF THEY COULD HAVE A
SCHEMATIC FOR US THAT SHOWS 250 VERSUS 500 VERSUS 1,000,
JUST SO WE ARE ABLE TO SEE THAT -- I'M SORRY --
12:25:36PM >> NO, I HAVE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE
TO SHOW YOU.
THESE HOUSES ARE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
SO THE REST OF THIS PROPERTY, ALL THE WAY TO INTERBAY,
BELONGS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
IT DOES NOT BELONG TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ARE HOA.
THAT BELONGS TO THE CITY.
SO WHO ARE YOU NOTIFYING?
YOU ARE NOTIFYING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY?
12:26:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXACTLY.
AND THAT WAS THE POINT, THAT MAP THAT YOU HAD EARLIER IT

DEMONSTRATES THE NEED FOR AN EXPANSION OF THIS SPACE.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
12:26:14PM >> THANK YOU.
12:26:18PM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
GOOD MORNING.
STEVE MICHELINI, 2407 SUNSET DRIVE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE
AFFECTING ALL OF THE PETITIONS, AND I KNOW THAT WE PROVIDED
YOU WITH A DEMONSTRATION AND A DIAGRAM SHOWING YOU THE
IMPACT WHERE THE RADIUS BE INCREASED, TRIPLED OR QUADRUPLED
THE COST.
IT'S NOT $24.
YOU HAVE TO ADD THE STAFF TIME AND THE COPIES AND THE
WHATEVER.
BUT YOU ARE CHANGING THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS FOR 1350 FEET,
AND YOU ARE CHANGING THE COST FROM 2 OR $300 PER NOTICE TO
SOMETHING LIKE $900 TO $1,000 FOR THE NOTICE.
AND THAT DIDN'T INCLUDE TIME AND LABOR.
FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.
GENERALLY, I THINK THAT 300 FEET INCREASING IT IS NOT A BIG
ISSUE.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE SIGN IS A
BIG ISSUE.
ADD $50 OR WHATEVER TO THE PETITION FEE FOR YOU PAY FOR THE
ADDITIONAL SIZE OF THE SIGN, BUT PROVIDE THE METAL STEAKS SO
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO AND BUY METAL STAKES SEPARATELY SO WHEN

YOU ARE GETTING YOUR SIGNS YOU GET THE METAL HANGERS THAT
SUPPORT THOSE SIGNS.
I THINK THAT THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION SHOULD BE INCLUDED
ON -- CARROLL ANN BENNETT MENTIONED SHE WAS MEETING WITH
THREE LAND USE ATTORNEYS.
SHE DID NOT MENTION THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH I THINK
IS IMPORTANT.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT AFFECTED, INCLUDING
SMALL PROPERTY OWNERS, THAT APPLY FOR VARIANCES, AND ALL
KIND OF DIFFERENT THINGS, ARC AND BLC, AND YOU ARE PUTTING
THOSE PEOPLE INTO THE SAME CATEGORY AS SOME OF THE LARGER
PROJECTS.
AND I KNOW THAT STEPHANIE POYNOR SHOWED YOU A MAP.
THOSE ARE UNIQUE PROPERTIES WHERE YOU HAVE IN THE SOUTH
GANDY AREA, WHERE YOU HAVE LARGE TRACKS OF LAND WHERE YOU
DON'T AFFECT MANY PEOPLE.
BUT THE REST OF THE CITY IS NOT DEVELOPED THAT WAY.
IT IS A VERY INTENSE AND DENSELY POPULATED CITY.
AND WHEN YOU INCREASE THAT SIGN THAT ALSO HAVE TO SHOW THAT
THOSE PEOPLE ARE IMPACTED IN SOME WAY.
THE STATE LAW SAYS THAT IF YOU INCREASE THE NOTICE AREA, YOU
HAVE TO SHOW HOW THEY ARE IMPACTED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE SHOWING UP ATERS THIS HEARINGS WHETHER
THEY GOT THE NOTICE OR NOT.
THEY CAN'T CLAIM THEY DIDN'T GET NOTICE WHEN THEY SHOW UP

AND SAY THEY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THESE PETITIONS, WHETHER
THEY ARE RENTERS OR NOT.
AND IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO TRACK.
I THINK THE STAFF TOLD YOU AND LEGAL DEPARTMENT TOLD YOU
THERE'S NO WAY OF IDENTIFYING THEM.
BUT RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE THAT COME IN TRY TO MAKE
SURE THAT THERE'S AN ADVERSE IMPACT, WOULD ALWAYS RESPOND TO
THE PHONE CALLS, WE ALWAYS RESPOND TO E-MAILS, WE ARE
ACCEPTING THEIR CRITICISM OR NOT.
BUT WE DO RESPOND.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
[BELL SOUNDS]
12:29:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
12:29:30PM >> KAMI CORBETT WITH LAW FIRM OF HILL WARD HENDERSON, 101
EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, SUITE 3700.
THAT WAS MY BABY.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD TELL COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WHO WAS NOT HERE
FOR THAT REZONING CASE.
THAT PROPERTY IS AN ANOMALY.
IT HAS THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
BUT WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEFORE WE FILED THAT
APPLICATION.
WE ACTUALLY CONTINUED THAT CASE ONE TIME, TO CONTINUE TO
MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY.
OUR ASSOCIATION WITH THE PORT OF TAMPA, WE INCLUDED THE

PEOPLE, WE INCLUDED THEIR NAMES.
SO AS THERE IS NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN, MOST APPLICANTS DO MEET
WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE DO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE
INFORMED.
DEFINITELY SUPPORT THE LARGER SIGNS, AND ANY EFFORTS, ANY
EFFORTS WE CAN DO TO HELP COMMUNICATION.
THAT'S GREAT.
I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT A LARGE NOTICE AREA LIKE 1320, BUT
I AM SCHEDULED TO TRY TO GET A MEETING WITH STEPHANIE AND
CARROLL ANN, AND HOPEFULLY WITH PROBABLY JAKE CRAMER AND
HAVE ONGOING DIALOGUES.
SO HOPEFULLY WHEN IT COMES BACK EVERYBODY IS ALL IN
AGREEMENT.
THANK YOU.
12:30:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
[OFF MICROPHONE]
WHAT WOULD BE YOUR SUGGESTION AS RELATES TO THE SIGN?
12:30:53PM >> THE SIGNS?
12:30:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE DISTANCE.
12:30:55PM >> THE DISTANCE?
I'M FINE WITH THE 300 FEET.
I THINK WHEN YOU GO BEYOND 500 FEET, NOT WITH THESE ANOMALY
PROPERTIES BUT WITHIN THE URBAN AREA OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
SMALLER LOTS, SMALLER PARCELS, YOU RUN THE RISK OF DILUTING
THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE SO NOTICE.
IF YOU SEND TOO MANY NOTICES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY ARE

GOING TO LOSE TRACK OF, IS THIS REALLY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD,
IS THIS NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD?
BEFORE, I HAD A FRIEND WHO LIVES IN A UNIT THAT WAS OWNED BY
A NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
PRESIDENT.
HE SAYS HE GET SO MANY NOTICES HE DOESN'T EVEN LOOK AT THEM
ANYMORE.
SO YOU DO DILUTE THE EFFECTIVENESS AND I THINK THAT'S WHY
THE LARGER SIGNS, THAT'S WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING AROUND YOUR
NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAY, OH, SOMETHING IS HAPPENING ON THAT
PROPERTY.
HE GETS A NOTICE I UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM GETTING WHEN I
RECEIVE ONE OF THOSE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE.
SO I THINK THE LARGER SIGNS IS A BETTER ALTERNATIVE TO
EXPANDING.
12:31:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH STAFF TO DO AN AREA
OF THE AREAS THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED, AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT
THAT WOULD BE.
3, 5, I KNOW I HEARD A THOUSAND.
LET'S LOOK AT WHAT IS THE MEDIAN AREA FOR COMPROMISE FOR THE
DEVELOPERS AND THE CITIZENS.
12:32:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, MS. CORBETT.
12:32:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:32:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO AGAIN, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO

HAVE A DISCUSSION TO TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES, BUT WITH
YOUR RECOMMENDATION, THEY INCLUDE, SAY, 300 FEET FOR A
REGULAR PROPERTY, BUT TO MR. MICHELINI'S POINT AS WELL WHEN
YOU HAVE THESE LARGER MORE ANOMALIES, THAT'S WHEN SOMETHING
MAY BE LARGER COULD GO INTO EFFECT, MAYBE 500 FEET.
12:32:52PM >> I THINK THAT'S DIFFICULT TO TELL, AND YOU GET INTO
PARSING ANY NUMBER YOU PICK IS ARBITRARY, SO IF YOU SAY TWO
ACRES, IT'S TWO ACRES, IF IT'S THREE ACRES.
WHATEVER YOU DECIDE.
I THINK IT'S BETTER TO HAVE THE UNIFORMITY, AND THEN ALSO
AGAIN FOCUS ON THE LARGER SIGNS SO PEOPLE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD CAN NO WHAT IS GOING ON.
12:33:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND FOR STAFF ANOTHER THING THAT MS. CORBETT
BROUGHT UP, IT'S VERY RELEVANT, AS A FORMER NEIGHBORHOOD
LEADER WHO USED TO GET THESE, THEY AREN'T VERY CLEAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN CHANGE THE LANGUAGE
TO BETTER EXPLAIN WHAT IS ACTUALLY OCCURRING IN LAY PERSON'S
TERMS.
I KNOW THAT LEGALLY WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A CERTAIN
DEFINITION, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO
LOOK AT A NOTICE THAT A LAY PERSON MIGHT UNDERSTAND AND IT
LOOKS LIKE MRS. TRAVIS, I SEE YOU COMING UP.
12:33:54PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU IN JANUARY, WE
HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, WHAT DOES THE NOTICE
LOOK LIKE, CAN WE HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING, SOME LEGAL

REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE ARE INCLUDED IN THE
NOTICE.
BUT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT, SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE SEE THE
SAME THING OVER AND OVER, MAYBE CHANGE THE LOOK, THE COLOR
OR SOMETHING MAY HELP.
BUT ONE THING TO REMEMBER IS WE ALSO HAVE AN INTERACTIVE
MAP.
PEOPLE CAN GO TO THE SITE, IF YOU PUT IN YOUR ADDRESS YOU
CAN SEE WHAT APPLICATIONS ARE AROUND THE PROPERTY.
SO WE ARE GOING TO START COMMUNICATING THAT TOOL A LOT MORE
SO THAT OUR CITIZENS KNOW HOW TO ENGAGE AND BE A PART OF THE
PROCESS.
12:34:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ALSO THEN, MAYBE THINKING ABOUT THE LETTER,
BEING ABLE TO INCLUDE THAT AT THE BOTTOM OF IT, SOMETHING
LIKE THAT.
SO I DEFINITELY SEE THIS AS BEING PART OF RETOOL IT AND I
THINK THAT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR THE JANUARY --
12:34:50PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE VERY HELPFUL.
WHEN YOU ARE DOING THIS WORK FOR A LONG TIME IT'S JUST THE
WAY WE HAVE ENGAGED CITIZENS, AND IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT
REFRESH AND LOOK AT LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, BUT HOW CAN WE
IMPROVE.
12:35:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK THAT'S PERFECT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:35:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. SHELBY.

12:35:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST A CLARIFICATION, IF I CAN.
THE FORM OF THE NOTICE IS NOT REALLY SET OUT IN THE CODE,
BUT I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY, DID YOU SAY YOU ARE GOING TO
BE BRINGING IT TO THE JANUARY?
12:35:24PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE MADE THAT ARE NOT
DICTATED BY CODE, I WOULD LET COUNCIL KNOW WHAT THAT CHANGE
WOULD BE.
SO IT'S NOT DICTATED IN CODE, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT BEING
RESPONSIVE TO WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE SAYING, SO THAT THEY
UNDERSTAND, SO THAT COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS WHAT CHANGES NEED TO
BE MADE, WE ARE GOING TO BRING THAT BACK.
IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ASKING?
12:35:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
12:35:50PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
OKAY.
12:35:51PM >> KEN REALI, EAST JACKSON STREET.
I WOULD SUGGEST TO COUNCIL THAT IN CONSIDERING THIS, I THINK
THAT THE NOTICE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WILL HAVE A
MUCH GREATER EFFECT IN DICTATING THE SIZE OF THIS BOUNDARY
FOR ALL THE REASONS STATED BEFORE.
FOR EXAMPLE I AM HERE FOR TWO ITEMS TODAY.
ONE IS AFFECTING A RELATIVELY LARGE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT,
THAT HAS ALMOST NO IMPACT ON THAT BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION.
I AM ALSO HERE FOR READAPTIVE REUSE OF A VERY SMALL PROJECT
NEAR AN URBAN AREA WHERE THAT WOULD PROBABLY QUADRUPLE THE
NOTICE REQUIREMENT.

SO THOSE ARE GOING TO BE CIRCUMSTANTIAL BUT WITH THE
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, IN NOTIFYING THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND
NOTIFY CONSISTENTLY, AND I THINK WE WILL HAVE MORE OF AN
IMPACT THAN GOING VERY, VERY BROAD WITH THE NOTICE MAILINGS.
THANK YOU.
12:36:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO
THIS?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
12:37:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I AM NOT SURE OF THE DATE OF THAT WE WOULD COME BACK IN
JANUARY.
DO WE HAVE A DATE FOR THAT?
12:37:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DID YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE OCTOBER
WORKSHOP?
12:37:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN HERE.
THEY ASKED FOR JANUARY.
12:37:25PM >>CATE WELLS:
IF IT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE JANUARY
AMENDMENT CYCLE AND WE DON'T HAVE A DATE CERTAIN AT THIS
POINT BUT JANUARY 15th IS THE CUT-OFF FOR ALL AMENDMENT
THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT CYCLE.
12:37:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOT JANUARY 2nd?
I AM LOOKING FOR A DATE.
12:37:53PM >> THE DEADLINE IS JANUARY 15th AND THAT WOULD DICTATE
THE SCHEDULE COMING BEFORE COUNCIL.

BUT YOUR MOTION COULD BE TO INCLUDE THESE AMENDMENT FOR
DISCUSSION IN THE JANUARY 2023 CYCLE.
12:38:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEN I AM GOING TO TAKE THE WORDS OUT OF HER
MOUTH.
12:38:07PM >> SECOND.
12:38:09PM >>CATE WELLS:
THANK YOU.
12:38:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
FURTHER DISCUSSION?
ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:38:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:38:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:38:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:38:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:38:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
12:38:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:38:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
12:38:31PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:38:32PM >> WE ARE IN RECESS TILL 1:
30.
[ RECESS ]
12:38:52PM >>BILL CARLSON:
(NO AUDIBLE RESPONSE)
1:34:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
1:34:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
(NO AUDIBLE RESPONSE)
1:34:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
1:34:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.

1:34:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
1:34:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.
1:34:59PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:35:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NUMBER 18.
1:35:29PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
NUMBER 17, I DID PREPARE A RESOLUTION, IF
COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE THAT NUMBER 17 BEFORE YOU OPEN 18,
SIR.
1:35:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
DID WE DO ITEM 16?
18.
1:35:51PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I BELIEVE THAT WAS CONTINUED.
1:35:54PM >> SO THE NEXT ITEM IS TO HAVE A RESOLUTION JUST BY TITLE?
AND DID WE ALSO MOVE 16?
1:36:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SINCE WE HAVE THE OFFICER HERE LET'S GO TO
18 AND THEN BACK TO 17 WHICH WAS OKAYED EARLIER.
1:36:41PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
HOW ARE YOU?
SO SPEAKING TO ITEM NUMBER 18, REGARDING NOTIFICATIONS FOR
PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND DAYCARES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, WE WERE
TASKED WITH FINDING A SOLUTION TO SEE HOW WE COULD BETTER
NOTIFY THESE INSTITUTIONS WHEN WE HAD INCIDENTS THAT TOOK
PLACE WITHIN THEIR AREA.
SO WHAT WE CAME UP WITH LOOKING INTO IT IS THAT WE HAVE A
COUPLE SYSTEMS.
ONE OF THEM WAS ALERT TAMPA, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR EVERGRID
SYSTEMS, THE PRIMARY METHOD OF NOTIFYING CITIZENS OF THOSE

TYPES OF SITUATIONS, SIMILAR TO LIKE A REVERSE 911.
IF SOMETHING GOES OUT WE CAN USE THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA
BOUNDARY AND WE CAN CALL THOSE PEOPLE WITHIN THAT AREA THAT
PEOPLE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT WHATEVER INCIDENT TAKES
PLACE AND GET INSTRUCTIONS.
WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE FEEL IS THE BEST SOLUTION WHICH IS A
TPD COMMUNICATIONS CENTER THAT MAINTAINS A LIST OF PRIVATE
SCHOOLS AND DAYCARES, AND WHAT WE FEEL WE CAN DO WITH THAT,
THAT LIST IS ALREADY CREATED, BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS NEED
TO GO BACK INTO THAT LIST AND SEE IF WE CAN'T FIRST BOLSTER
THAT LIST AND INCREASE IT.
SO I'M SURE IT NEEDS TO BE GONE OVER AND ASSESSED FOR
INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE NO LONGER IN EXISTENCE, AS WELL AS
ONES THAT HAVE THOUGHT RECEIVED THE INFORMATION AND PROVIDED
IT.
THEY CAN PROVIDE THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION, AND WE CAN GROW
THAT LIST.
WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR BUSINESS TAX TEAM, PARTNERING WITH
THEM, TO GO AHEAD AND USE INFORMATION FROM THEIR DATABASE TO
GO AHEAD AND ALSO POPULATE THAT LIST.
AND EVEN TODAY, WORKING WITH THE SEVA LIST, TWO LISTS AS A
MATTER OF FACT WE ARE ABLE TO ASSESS THAT LIST AND MAKE IT
BETTER.
WE ALSO HAVE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS A VERY ROBUST SYSTEM OF
ALERT SYSTEM NOTIFICATION WHERE THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND ALERT

ALL OF THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE ON THEIR LIST FOR, FOR LEGAL
REASONS WE CAN'T AND THEY WILL NOT ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR
DOING THAT FOR PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS
MIRROR THAT SAME SYSTEM.
IF AN ALERT SHOULD GO OUT FROM THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, IT
WILL BE TRANSMITTED OVER TO OUR COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION,
THEN THEY CAN USE THE LIST THAT WE HAVE FOR THE PRIVATE
INSTITUTIONS IN SCHOOLS AND DAYCARES, AND WE COULD TAKE THAT
SAME MESSAGE AND USE THAT SYSTEM TO PUMP OUT THAT SAME
MESSAGE TO THOSE INSTITUTIONS AS WELL.
SO IT IS NOT THE SAME SYSTEM BUT WE CAN USE THAT SAME METHOD
ALONG WITH OUR LIST TO DO THAT.
AND IF THERE IS A DYNAMIC INCIDENT WHERE SOMETHING
EGREGIOUS, SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS IN NATURE, THEN WE WOULD
DO THAT ANYTIME THAT OFFICERS WOULD GO OUT AND IF THEY
IDENTIFY THE SCHOOL IN CLOSE PROXIMITY THEY COULD JUST MAKE
CONTACT WITH THAT SCHOOL IF THE DIRE NEED IS THERE.
THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND DO THAT AND LET THEM KNOW
TO EITHER SHELTER IN PLACE, GO INTO A MODIFIED LOCKDOWN,
ET CETERA.
SO THIS SYSTEM DOES EXIST, AND I THINK WHERE WE CAN GET
BETTER AT IT IS JUST TO ADD THE LIST AND GET IT UPDATED.
AND WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR PARTNERS TO DO THAT TO
GET IT UPDATED.
WE ALSO HAVE POLICIES FROM OUR CIB, OUR CRIMINAL

INVESTIGATIONS BUREAUS, SO THEY RESPOND TO SAFETY
ASSESSMENTS AND RESPONSE TO THREATS AT SCHOOLS, AND THAT
PROCESS, WHAT THEY WOULD DO WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT
THEY WOULD DO FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL OR A PUBLIC SCHOOL.
SO IF THERE'S AN INCIDENCE WHERE A CALL OR THREAT COMES INTO
A PRIVATE OR PUBLIC SCHOOL WE WOULD INVESTIGATE THOSE THE
SAME.
WE ALSO HAVE HAYSTACKS WHICH IS A DIGITAL SANDBOX PROGRAM
WITH CRITICAL STRUCTURE USES.
MOSTLY RIGHT NOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT USES THAT, AND WE SHARE
AMONGST THE AGENCIES, AND THEY ARE ABLE TO DO ASSESSMENTS OF
SCHOOLS AND COMMUNICATE WITH THEM.
SO WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PROGRAMS VARIABLE OF THAT WE DO USE,
AND WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON THE ONE CONTROL BY OUR
COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION TO GET THAT ONE JUST UPDATED SO WE
CAN BETTER SERVES THE CITIZENS WHEN SOMETHING DOES GO ON IN
THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:41:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:41:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
DID MAJOR BENNETT OR CITY ATTORNEY NEWCOMB
BRIEF YOU ON OUR DISCUSSIONS YESTERDAY?
1:41:08PM >> YES.
1:41:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH IT BUT I
THINK CHIEF BENNETT IS ABLE -- ME BEING RETIRED, I KNOW WHAT
WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T, AND FILL IN THAT PARTICULAR GAP WHEN
WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY, I THINK WE'LL SOLVE THE PROBLEM

OF PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND DAYCARES BEING NOTIFIED.
ASSISTANT ATTORNEY NEWCOMB WASN'T EVEN AWARE OF THAT.
CHIEF BENNETT JUMPED IN AND SAID HE UNDERSTOOD WRITE WAS
GOING, AND I AM HOPING TO BUILD ON THAT GAP, PHONE CALLS TO
GET THAT PARTICULAR GAP FILLED.
1:41:46PM >> YES, SIR.
1:41:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK THAT WILL BE GREAT, AND I WON'T
GET CALLS FROM DAYCARES AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN THE AREA WHEN
SOMETHING HAPPENS AND A GUY COMES AND KNOCKS ON THEIR DOOR.
THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THE MOTION UP.
SOMETIMES WE CAN -- HOPEFULLY WE'LL BRING THE SYSTEM UP, AND
MAKE SURE THE LIST IS UPDATED.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
THANKS.
1:42:15PM >> TO SPEAK TO THAT, I WOULD SAY THAT OFTENTIMES THE
OFFICERS ARE TASKED WITH HANDLING THE SITUATION, BY BRINGING
COMMUNICATIONS INTO IT, IT ALLOWS THE OFFICERS TO HANDLE THE
SITUATION AND/OR THREAT AND LET COMMUNICATIONS DO THE
NOTIFICATIONS.
IN THE EVENT THAT A SCHOOL, A PUBLIC SCHOOL ALERT DIDN'T GO
OUT, WHICH IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY, BUT IF IT DID HAPPEN, THEN
OFFICERS ON SCENE OUR SHIFT COMMANDER CAN STILL CALL
COMMUNICATIONS, DEAL WITH THE THREAT AT HAND BUT ALSO MAKE
THAT CALL IF YOU NEED COMMUNICATIONS TO GET THAT BALL
ROLLING, SO THE INFORMATION DOES GET PASSED OUT.

1:42:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:42:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, BECAUSE I AM JUST
CURIOUS.
YOU MENTIONED THE ALERT SYSTEM, THE REVERSE CALL.
DOES THAT WORK FOR CELL PHONES?
OR -- BECAUSE NO ONE HAS A LANDLINE ANYMORE.
WHEN YOU SAID THAT I AM CURIOUS HOW IT WORKERS.
1:43:08PM >> SO PEOPLE HAVE TO REGISTER FOR THAT PROGRAM.
SO WHATEVER PHONE NUMBER THEY PROVIDED, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY
RIGHT.
1:43:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I WAS JUST -- THANKS.
1:43:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:43:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
AND SCHOOLS SHOULD HAVE A LANDLINE.
THOSE PRIVATE SCHOOLS WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
1:43:29PM >> YES.
1:43:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DO WE HAVE STAFF HERE FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17, FILE CM
22-77570?
1:43:42PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THERE IS A RESOLUTION IN RESPONSE TO THE
BUDGET HEARING FOR ITEM 17.
1:44:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANT TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
1:44:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
1:44:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
1:44:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
1:44:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
1:44:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
1:44:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
1:44:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
1:44:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
1:44:19PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:44:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM 19, FILE HL-22-76263.
1:44:26PM >>ELAINE LUND:
ELAINE LUND, WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION
STAFF, FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER -- DID YOU SAY 18 OR 19?
1:44:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
19.
1:44:42PM >>ELAINE LUND:
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
THE ITEM BEFORE YOU, I HAVE A PowerPoint PRESENTATION THAT
WAS TRANSMITTED.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THAT AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW, BUT IF
NOT I WILL GO AHEAD AND GET THIS ON THE OVERHEAD.
1:44:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IT'S UP.
1:44:55PM >>ELAINE LUND:
IT'S UP?
OKAY. WONDERFUL.
THIS ITEM IS FOR THE LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION AT
THE BUSTILLO BROTHERS AND DIAZ CIGAR AT 2111 NORTH ALBANY
AVENUE IN WEST TAMPA.

THE WEST TAMPA DEVELOPMENT GROUP SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION
FOR LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
AND THESE APPLICATIONS ARE REVIEWED BY THE HISTORIC
PRESERVATION COMMISSION TO ENSURE THAT THEY MEET THE
CRITERIA LISTED IN SECTION 27-257 OF THE CITY'S CODE OF
ORDINANCES.
HERE YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE OF THE FACTORY FROM ABOUT 1902
WHICH IS THE YEAR THAT THE FACTORY WAS CONSTRUCTED.
LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROVIDES MULTIPLE BENEFITS, BUT
IN THIS CASE I BELIEVE IT PARTICULARLY SAFEGUARDS THE
HERITAGE OF THE CITY BY PRESERVING AND REGULATING ITS
HISTORIC BUILDINGS.
THE CIGAR INDUSTRY IN TAMPA AS MOST OF US ARE WELL AWARE WAS
PRETTY MUCH WHAT BUILT THIS CITY, SO WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO
BE ABLE TO DESIGNATE AND RETAIN THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE
TODAY THAT REPRESENT THAT HISTORY.
HERE YOU SEE THE 1915 SANBORN FIRE INSURANCE COMPANY MAP,
THIS PORTION OF WEST TAMPA.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED ON BOTH THAT MAP AND
THE PRESENT DAY AERIAL MAP.
IT'S AT THE CORNER OF 1915 ALBANY WAS FRANCIS AVENUE, AND
PINE STREET.
THE BUSTILLO BROTHERS AND DIAZ COMPANY WAS ESTABLISHED IN
WEST TAMPA AROUND 1895 AND IT WAS FIRST LOCATED AT 13th
STREET, WHICH IS NOW DELAWARE AVENUE AND GRAY STREET.

AND THEN THESE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES OF THAT ORIGINAL
FACTORY AND THE BUSTILLO BROTHERS AND DIAZ THERE.
AS I STATED, THE BUILDING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY WAS
BUILT AROUND 1902, DESIGNED BY LOCAL ARCHITECTS MILLER AND
KINNARD, TYPICAL CIGAR FACTORY FORM, THREE AND A HALF
STORIES HIGH WITH A HECK TANG LAR EAST-WEST PLAN.
THE WINDOWS ARE TALL, REGULARLY SPACED, TO ALLOW THE AMOUNT
OF LIGHT AND AIR THAT WAS NEEDED BY THE CIGAR WORKERS.
THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING RENAISSANCE REVIVAL DETAILS.
THE BUSTILLO BROTHERS AND DIAZ COMPANY WAS KNOWN FOR THEIR
HENRY 4th, ALEXANDER HUMBOLDT AND CIGAR BRANDS AS WELL
AS MULTIPLE OTHERS AND THIS IS KNOWN AS THE BUSTILLO
BROTHERS AND CIGAR FACTORY AND WAS KNOWN AT THAT, THROUGH
THE 1950s WHEN IT WAS OCCUPIED BY THE ANTONIO CIGAR
COMPANY AND OTHER LIGHT MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIES.
THE BUILDING IS LOCATED IN THE WEST TAMPA HISTORIC DISTRICT
AS LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.
THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE FOR THAT NATIONAL HISTORIC
DISTRICT IS 1893 TO 1933.
THEREFORE, THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT DURING THAT PERIOD OF
SIGNIFICANCE, AND IT IS CONSIDERED A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE
IN THE NATIONAL REGISTRY DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT MADE THEIR APPLICATION ON JANUARY 27th OF
THIS YEAR, AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION HEARD
THE APPLICATION AND MADE ITS RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL ON

MAY 17th.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THIS APPLICATION TO BE
CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
NOTICE FOR THIS HEARING WAS PROVIDED TO THE OWNER, NEARBY
PROPERTY OWNERS AND REGISTERED ORGANIZATIONS.
WHEN LOOKING AT THE CITY'S CODE, WE SEE THAT THE BUILDING
WAS CONSTRUCTED OR ACHIEVED SIGNIFICANCE DURING THE PERIOD
OF SIGNIFICANCE.
IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH EVENTS THAT MADE A SIGNIFICANT
CONTRIBUTION TO THE BROAD PATTERNS OF OUR HISTORY, AND THE
AREAS OF COMMUNITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, AND IT EMBODIES
DISTINCT TIER CHAIR STICKS OF THE TIME PERIOD OR METHOD OF
CONSTRUCTION IN THE AREA OF ARCHITECTURE.
SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL APPROVE
THE DESIGNATION OF THE BUSTILLO BROTHERS AND DIAZ CIGAR
FACTORY AT 2111 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE AS A LOCAL LANDMARK,
27-257.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE OWNER FOR COMING FORTH WITH THIS
APPLICATION.
WE ARE ALWAYS VERY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS TO
YOU.
I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
1:49:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
1:49:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT YOU JUST SAID, THANKS TO THE OWNER

THAT HAS WANTED TO MAKE THIS A HISTORIC LANDMARK.
I KNOW THIS IS SOMETIMES A TOPIC, EVERYBODY WANTS TO
DESIGNATE IT AS HISTORIC, THERE ARE A LOT OF RULES THAT GO
BEHIND THAT, BUT WE KNOW HOW SIGNIFICANT THESE ARE TO OUR
HISTORY.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:50:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
DO WE TAKE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?
1:50:38PM >>ELAINE LUND:
THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF --
1:50:44PM >> COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING TIME TO
LISTEN TO THIS, OUR APPLICATION.
JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.
THE HURRICANE CAME THROUGH, OR WHAT HAPPENED WITH IT,
FORTUNATELY FOR US, IT ALREADY CHANGED THE WINDOWS TO IMPACT
RATED.
OH, I'M SORRY.
I'M MARGO DIAZ, IN THIS CASE WEST TAMPA DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE ACTUALLY MADE IT PRETTY MUCH UNSCATHED AS I WILL SHOW
YOU.
YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE PHOTOS THAT WERE
PREVIOUSLY SHOWN DIDN'T HAVE ANY WINDOWS WE PUT IN.
WE WORKED WITH THE HISTORIC DEPARTMENT TO IDENTIFY THE EXACT
TYPE OF WINDOWS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, THE CONFIGURATION,
SO THEY LOOK THE SAME.
THESE ARE ALL NEW IMPACT RATED WINDOWS.

I WILL SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF THE INSIDE TO SHOW YOU A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT HOW IT LOOKS INSIDE.
1:51:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN YOU ZOOM IN?
1:51:48PM >> YES.
SO YOU SEE WE REALLY KIND OF REALLY STARTED THE RESTORATION
PROCESS.
OUR PLAN IS TO EVENTUALLY LEAVE ALL THE EXPOSED BRICK WALLS,
AS ONE OF THE ASPECTS OF IT.
I GUESS WHAT HAPPENED WAS, MY DAD HAD AN ANTIQUE RESTORATION
BUSINESS IN DREW PARK AND I GOT USED TO LIKE FIXING UP OLD
STUFF AND NEVER GOT OVER IT.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE DO OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, I DO LIKE ADAPTIVE
REUSE OF THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:52:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
1:52:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SINCE STEPHANIE STOOD UP, I ALWAYS LIKE TO
HEAR YOUR WISE COMMENTS IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT
IT.
1:52:40PM >> STEPHANIE FERRELL, HISTORIC PRESERVATION ARCHITECT AND
CONSULTANT TO GARCIA AND HIS PARTNER ON THIS PROJECT AND I
AM PLEASED TO BE STANDING IN THE BACKGROUND MOSTLY IN
SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT.
I WANT TO MENTION THIS USE FOR THE BUILDING WILL BE
RESIDENTIAL, SORTED OF LOFT STYLE APARTMENTS SO I THINK IT
WILL BE A REAL BENEFIT TO THE BUILDING ITSELF AND TO THE

NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO OUR OVERALL HOUSING SHORTAGE.
SO THANK YOU.
1:53:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ
THIS, PLEASE?
1:53:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE NUMBER 19, FILE HL
22-76263, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READ
CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
DESIGNATING BUSTILLO BROTHERS AND DIAZ CIGAR TOOK TRY
LOCATED AT 2111 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 HEREOF, AS A LOCAL
HISTORIC LANDMARK, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
1:53:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
1:53:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
1:53:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
1:53:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
1:53:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
1:53:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
1:53:57PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
1:53:59PM >> YES.
1:54:00PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
3rd, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.

1:54:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20.
1:54:13PM >>ELAINE LUND:
THIS APPLICATION IS FOR AN AD VALOREM
HISTORIC TAX EXEMPTION FOR PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE HYDE PARK
HISTORIC DISTRICT AT 818 SOUTH ORLEANS AVENUE, PRESENTLY
OWNED BY KEVIN AND WHITNEY WOODS.
THE PROPERTY AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE AERIAL MAP HERE SHOWN
OUTLINED IN GREEN ON THE EAST SIDE OF ORLEANS AVENUE BETWEEN
INMAN AND MORRISON AVENUE.
THE PROPERTY IS SHOWN IN GREEN AS IT WAS AT THAT TIME.
AND THIS IS THE HOUSE, CONSTRUCTED CIRCA 1917, AND IT'S
LISTED AS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IN BOTH THE LOCAL AND
NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
THIS IS THE BEFORE PHOTO OF THE FRONT FACADE.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE AFTER PHOTO.
YOU NOTICE THAT ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE WORK IN
ADDITION TO THE REHABILITATION OF THE STRUCTURE WAS AN
ADDITION OVER THE PORTE-COCHERE.
PART OF THE REHABILITATION WORK WAS ON THE COLUMNS.
YOU CAN SEE THE COLUMNS ON THE PORTE-COCHERE AND HOW THEY
NOW MATCH THE ONES ON THE FRONT PORCH.
THIS IS JUST A VIEW LOOKING MORE DIRECTLY AT THAT COMPONENT
OF THE BUILDING.
AND THE REAR SIDE OF IT.
AND THE WINDOWS WERE ALSO REHABILITATED AND NEW WINDOWS ARE

HISTORICALLY ACCURATE OR INSTALLED.
THIS IS THE PICTURE OF THE BEFORE PICTURE OF THE BACK OF THE
BUILDING.
AND THE AFTER PICTURE OF THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE OF THIS
VERY NICE SCREENED PORCH.
ONE OF THE OLD TRICKS OF SCREENING IN PORCHES IN THE
HISTORIC DISTRICT IS TO AVOID THE ALUMINUM METALS SCREENING
THAT YOU SEE IN A LOT OF PROJECTS.
THIS TURNS OUT VERY NICELY.
ON THE INTERIOR, WE HAVE A PHOTO OF ONE OF THE NEWER POSTS
IN THE STAIRWAY THAT WAS USED TO RECREATE SOME OF THE OTHER
POSTS THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE INCLUDING THESE AT THE TOP OF THE
STAIRS.
THE HISTORIC TREND WAS RETAINED IN PLACE AND WAS RE-CREATED
AND IN THE ADDITION.
YOU CAN SEE HERE A PICTURE OF ONE OF THE NEW DOORS THAT WAS
FABRICATED TO MATCH THE EXISTING DOORS IN THE HOUSE.
AGAIN THE DOORS.
AND THE POCKET DOORS WERE ALSO RESTORED.
AS WAS THE FIREPLACE AND THE FLOORING.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF BEFORE THE FIREPLACE AREA, AND AN AFTER
PHOTO.
FINALLY, THE OWNERS WERE GOOD ENOUGH TO EVEN MATCH SOME OF
THE ORIGINAL HARDWARE AND RESTORE IT THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE.
THIS IS BEFORE AND AFTER.

SO THE APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SECRETARY OF THE
INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION AND GUIDELINES FOR
REHABILITATING HISTORIC BUILDINGS, WHICH ARE THE STANDARDS
THAT WE USE FOR THE AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTIONS.
IN REVIEWING THE PROJECT IT MEETS THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED
BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE.
THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT CAN BE ENACTED STATE WIDE.
THE IMPROVEMENTS MUST EQUAL OR EXCEED $10,000.
AND OUR RECOMMENDATION, STAFF, THE WORK IS CONSISTENT WITH
THE CITY OF TAMPA AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION
ORDINANCE AS SUBMITTED.
AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
1:58:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMAN VIERA?
1:58:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A HISTORIC
PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO
THE RESTORATION, RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN
PROPERTY OWNED BY KEVIN B. AND WHITNEY M. WOODS, 818 SOUTH
ORLEANS AVENUE IN THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT BASED UPON
CERTAIN FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY
APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
CONFLICT PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

1:59:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
1:59:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ROLL CALL.
1:59:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
1:59:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
1:59:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
1:59:43PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
1:59:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
1:59:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
1:59:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
1:59:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
1:59:48PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
3rd, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
1:59:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WOULD YOU READ --
2:00:03PM >> THANK YOU.
OKAY.
ITEM NUMBER 21.
HTX 22-77593.
EXCUSE ME.
2:00:16PM >>ELAINE LUND:
AS MY LAST PRESENTATION FOR THIS MORNING, OR
THIS AFTERNOON NOW, THIS IS ANOTHER AD VALOREM HISTORIC TAX
EXEMPTION APPLICATION, THIS TIME AT 4521 WEST DALE AVENUE.
THIS IS NOT LOCATED IN ONE OF OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

INSTEAD THIS IS IN THE BEACH PARK AREA.
THE BEACH PARK HOUSES THAT ARE LISTED LOCALLY AS HISTORIC
BUILDINGS ARE DONE SO THROUGH STRICTLY VOLUNTARY PROGRAM.
THE OWNERS COME FORWARD AND REQUEST THE DESIGNATION.
THEY ARE PART OF THE 1920s DEVELOPMENT, ORIGINAL
DEVELOPMENT OF THE BEACH PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WAS
PRIMARILY MEDITERRANEAN THEMED HOUSES.
SO HERE YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF DALE AVENUE, OFF
OF ROYAL PALM WAY.
THIS IS THE 1920s SANBORN MAP OF THE AREA, SHOWING NORTH
DALE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE COLORS IS OF INTEREST BEING A YELLOW
WOOD FRAME STRUCTURE, SHOWN IN RED WHICH INDICATES PROBABLY
A CLAY TILE CONSTRUCTION.
THIS IS THE BEFORE PICTURE, LOOKING AT THE FRONT OF THE
BUILDING.
THIS IS AN AFTER PICTURE.
THE PROJECT INCLUDED FIXING THE MEDALLIONS ON THE FRONT OF
THE BUILDING, WORKING ON THE TEXTURED EXTERIOR, REPAIRING
THE WINDOWS AND REPLACING WINDOWS TO MORE HISTORICALLY
APPROPRIATE WINDOWS.
THERE WAS ALSO SOME WORK DONE ON THE DRIVEWAY AND
PORTE-COCHERE.
THIS IS THE BEFORE PICTURE.
AND THE AFTER PHOTO.

I BELIEVE THE WROUGHT IRON WORK WAS ALSO PART OF IT.
THIS IS THE PHOTO OF THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY BEFORE THE
PROJECT WAS INITIATED.
AND THIS IS AFTER.
THIS DOES INCLUDE AN ADDITION AND THE CONSTRUCTION AFTER NEW
REAR PORCH.
ON THE INTERIOR, WE ARE LOOKING THROUGH THE MUD ROOM TO
WHERE THE ADDITION AREA IS HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE FLOORING WAS REPLACED WITH SOMETHING
THAT WAS MORE HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATE.
DOWN THE VIEW DOWN THE CORRIDOR WHEREAS MAINTAINED.
THE ARCH OPENING WAS MAINTAINED.
THE TRIM AROUND THE WINDOWS AND DOORS WAS RESTORED TO ITS
ORIGINAL.
THE FLOORING, I BELIEVE, IS ALSO PART OF THE RENOVATION
PROGRAM.
THE SUN ROOM, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ON THE FRONT FACADE, MADE A
SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE STREET, THE APPEARANCE OF THE
BUILDING.
THE FLOORING WAS REFINISHED AND THE TRIM ON THE INTERIOR
WINDOWS WAS CHANGED, AS WELL AS OF COURSE THE WINDOWS
THEMSELVES TO BE REPLACED TO BE HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATE.
AND THE LIVING ROOM, THE FLOORING WAS RESTORED AS WELL, AS
WAS THE SUN ROOM AND THE FIREPLACE.
AGAIN, JUST MORE PICTURES OF THE INTERIOR.

FLOORING ON THE STAIRS.
AND THEN FINALLY JUST A LOVELY SHOT OF THE HOUSE FROM AROUND
ITS TIME OF CONSTRUCTION IN 1925.
AND WITH THAT I WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS.
2:04:19PM >> COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:04:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC
PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO
THE RESTORATION, RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN
PROPERTY OWNED BY RICARDO REAMERS AND SHAIDA JOHNSON LOCATED
AT 4521 WEST DALE AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA IN THE BEACH PARK
MULTIPLE PROPERTIES DESIGNATION LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT
BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO PROPERTY
APPRAISER HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY
PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:05:05PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
2:05:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:05:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
2:05:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
2:05:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
2:05:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
2:05:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
2:05:15PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

SECOND READING WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 3rd, 2022 AT
9:30 A.M.
2:05:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ONE THAT WE GOT PASSED I WILL DEAL WITH THAT
LATER.
I MOVE ITEMS 22 THROUGH 25.
2:05:32PM >> SECOND.
2:05:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU HAVE PARKS AND RECREATION.
2:05:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE ITEMS 26 THROUGH 35.
2:05:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
2:05:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:05:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEMS 36 THROUGH 46.
2:05:58PM >> SECOND.
2:05:59PM >> MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU HAVE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
2:06:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE ITEMS 47 THROUGH 50, AND 52 TO 54.
2:06:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?

COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUILDING AND ZONING.
2:06:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM NUMBER 66 BECAUSE MY
FIRM WORKS WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 55 THROUGH -- MY BRAIN IS SLOW OR
NOT WORKING.
2:06:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
55 THROUGH 65 AND 67 THROUGH --
2:06:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
67 THROUGH 79.
2:06:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
THANK YOU.
2:07:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, VICE CHAIR OF BUILDING
AND ZONING.
2:07:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE 66.
2:07:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN GUDES, TRANSPORTATION.
I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU HAVE TRANSPORTATION.
2:07:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION FOR 80 AND 81.
I MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR 82.
2:07:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
THANK YOU.
2:07:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARINGS
FOR 83, 4, 5 AND 6.

2:07:50PM >> SECOND.
2:07:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED
BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
THANK YOU.
2:08:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO OPEN ALL THE
PUBLIC HEARINGS.
2:08:04PM >> SECOND.
2:08:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
THANK YOU.
ALL IN FAVOR?
THANK YOU.
I GUESS WE GO TO 87.
2:08:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I REALLY FAST, THERE'S SOMETHING I
FORGOT.
ON NUMBER 11, I KNOW I NEEDED A STAFF REPORT.
IF I MAY, SIR, IT SAYS HERE THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT, AND
FOR BACKGROUND THIS IS ON THE HONORARY STREET NAMING OF
CLIFFORD MACDONALD, THE MACDONALD TRAINING CENTER, SAYS THE
REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT HAS SUBMITTED SUMMARY REPORTS IN
THEIR CONSIDERATION.
I HAVE THIS COME BACK IN THE FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY 2023 JUST

FOR A STATUS.
2:08:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SURE.
DO YOU WANT A TIME CERTAIN?
2:08:54PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
2:08:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAY THAT BE A WRITTEN REPORT THEN?
2:09:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
2:09:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
2:09:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIR.
2:09:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:09:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF IT'S NOT -- TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT
CASE, BUT I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO, NO, IT IS IN THIS
PARTICULAR CASE, WHAT WE NEED TO DO, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD
BE THAT COUNCILMEMBER VIERA PROPOSE A RESOLUTION OR
ORDINANCE RATHER THAN.
THE LINE THAT YOU JUST READ OFF IS THE SAME ONE THAT I
HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS MEMO THAT WAS I THINK POSTED TO SIRE
LATE LAST NIGHT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE HIGHLIGHTED LINE IT SAYS THE REAL ESTATE
DEPARTMENT HAS SUBMITTED THE SUMMARY REPORT TO THE MAYOR FOR
CONSIDERATION.
YOU ALL REMEMBER, I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR, THERE WAS AN
EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT OUTLINED THE NEW PROCESS BASED ON THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION OF HOW FACILITIES WOULD BE NAMED,
IN THAT DOCUMENT, I POINTED OUT THE TIME IN THE WHEREAS

CLAUSES THAT STATED THAT THE MAYOR HAS THE RIGHT TO NAME
BUILDINGS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHARTER, WHICH IS THE SECOND PAGE I HAVE,
THE ONLY THING CLOSE TO SAYING THAT IS NUMBER 5, WHICH IS
THE GENERAL CHARGE CONTROL AND SUPERVISION OF PROPERTY
WITHIN THE CITY.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CHARTER THAT GIVES THE MONEY
EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO NAME BUILDINGS.
AND SO IF WE SIMPLY ASK FOR THE MAYOR BY EXECUTIVE ORDER
NAME SOMETHING, WE ARE GIVING AWAY ONE OF THE POWERS OF CITY
COUNCIL.
IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY DEFINED IN THE CHARTER FOR EITHER ONE
OF US.
BUT MY SUGGESTION IS THAT IN THE ABSENCE OF CREATING A
LONGER PROCESS LATER THAT WE PROPOSE THAT AN ORDINANCE COME
BACK THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE, AND THEN THE MAYOR CAN ALSO PASS
AN EXECUTIVE ORDER IF SHE WANTS.
BUT SIMPLY ASKING THE MAYOR TO CONSIDER IT IS GIVING UP ONE
OF THE POWERS THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS.
2:11:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AND MAY I?
I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A LOT.
VERY WELL TAKEN.
WHAT I CAN DO IS I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND RETURN -- WE
HAVE COUNCIL NEXT WEEK.
WE HAVE A HOLIDAY IN THE EVENING.

I CAN LOOK AT THIS, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, AND COME BACK WITH
IT NEXT THURSDAY EVENING AND WHATNOT.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
2:11:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AM SORRY TO BRING THIS UP, SPECIFICALLY
ABOUT YOURS, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
THIS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT'S COME UP I THINK SINCE THAT
MEMO, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T
INADVERTENTLY GIVE UP ONE OF OUR POWERS F.WE HAD SUGGESTED
TAKING THIS AUTHORITY AWAY FROM THE MAYOR LEGAL DEPARTMENT
WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL OVER TO US STOP US BUT IN THIS CASE THE
WHEREAS CLAUSES THERE IT'S TRYING TO CLAIM GROUND WHICH
DOESN'T EXIST IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHARTER.
2:11:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AND IF I MAY, YES, SO I WILL COME BACK WITH
THAT.
I AM NOT GOING TO BE HERE THIS EVENING BECAUSE OF SCHOOL FOR
MY SON BUT NEXT THURSDAY I CAN RETURN WITH THIS AND LOOK AT
IT.
2:12:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AM NOT GOING TO SPLIT HAIRS, BUT SINCE
THERE IS NO GENERAL DIRECTION ON WHO HAS CONTROL OF WHAT, NO
BUN IS TAKING CONTROL AWAY FROM ANYBODY.
YOU ARE JUST ASKING TO DEFINE IT.
2:12:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SORRY I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF IT BECAUSE IT
WOULD TAKE A WHILE TO LOOK IT UP BUT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER
THAT CAME OUT ABOUT THE PROCESS FOR NAMING, WHICH I THINK
THE PROCESS IS GOOD, WAS RECOMMENDED BY COMMITTEE, BUT THE

WHEREAS CLAUSES IN IT FRONT SAY BECAUSE, AND IT CITES THIS
NUMBER 5 HERE, BECAUSE THE MAYOR HAS CONTROL OF THE
FACILITIES AND WHEREAS THE MAYOR ALSO HAS AUTHORITY OVER
NAMING RIGHTS, WHICH THAT IS NOT, I POINTED OUT AT THE TIME,
THAT IS NOT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT, AND AS FAR AS I KNOW WE
DID NOT COLD IF I THAT BY VOTING ON THAT STAFF ORDER.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING IN WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER VIERA PROPOSED TODAY THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY ANY
POWERS.
MY POINT IS BECAUSE OF THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER UNLESS WE PUT UP
EITHER AN ORDINANCE OR A RESOLUTION, THEN THIS DECISION ON
THIS NAME WOULD ONLY BE MADE BY EXECUTIVE ORDER, AND WE
WOULD BE GIVING UP WHAT OTHERWISE IS AN UNDEFINED POWER
WHICH THEN WOULD DEFAULT TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL
AGREEING ON SOMETHING.
SO LET'S LOOK AT IT FROM --
2:13:15PM >> YOU WANT TO THE DEFINE THE POWER.
YES.
MR. MASSEY.
2:13:19PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
A COUPLE THINGS.
THE TERM THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON CITED, WE HAVE INTERPRETED
AS INCLUDING THE RIGHT TO NAME, THE MANAGEMENT CONTROL FOR
THOSE NAMING.
2:13:32PM >>COLIN RICE:

MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CLARIFIED WHEN WE GO

THROUGH THE CHARTER WORKSHOP.
THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE DISCUSS.
BUT THE LEGAL INTERPRETATION OF THAT CHARTER, THAT'S WHY IT
WAS DONE BY EXECUTIVE ORDER.
WE CAN ALSO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT NAMING RIGHTS IN
GENERAL PERHAPS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION HERE AND HOW WE CAN
WORK COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER.
I AM NOTE SAYING THAT WE CAN DO THAT.
2:13:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIRMAN.
I HAVE I HAD A COUPLE OF ATTORNEYS LOOK AT THIS, TOO, AND
THINGS IN THE PAST WERE INTERPRETED IN DIFFERENT WAYS, AND
LOOKED AT THE INTERPRETATION THAT THE LEGAL OFFICE HAS THE
EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO AGREE TO, NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENTS AND TO
PAY THEM.
THAT'S NOT AT ALL IN THE CHARTER EITHER AND I HAD ATTORNEYS
OUTSIDE LOOK AT THAT.
WHAT I WOULD HOPE IS WITH THE NEW CITY ATTORNEY, WHO READ
OFF THE CHARTER AND SAID CITY COUNCIL IS ALSO ONE OF HER
CLIENTS, I HOPE THE NEW LEGAL DEPARTMENT DIRECTION WOULD TO
BE LOOK AT ALL THE CLIENTS AND TREAT ALL THE CLIENTS FAIRLY
AND INTERPRET THESE THINGS.
2:14:38PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
FOR THE RECORD, MORRIS MASSEY, CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
IT IS OUR JOB TO REPRESENT THE CITY AS A WHOLE AND NOT JUST
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, NOT JUST CITY COUNCIL, NOT JUST THE

STAFF.
AND SO WE DO TRY TO TAKE EVERYONE'S -- WE DO TRY TO
INTERPRET THINGS NOT FAVORING ONE DEPARTMENT OR ONE BRANCH
OF GOVERNMENT OVER THE OTHER.
WE DO REPRESENT THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
2:15:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WITH RESPECT TO REAL ESTATE, AND I WON'T
BELABOR THAT, IF THE MAYOR DOES TRY TO SELL PROPERTY THAT
WOULD COME BEFORE COUNCIL SO THE MANAGEMENT OF PROPERTY IS
DIFFERENT THAN THE OVERALL CONTROL OF IT.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT IN THE CHARTER
DISCUSSION, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK WE OUGHT TO PUT UP
AN ORDINANCE AND MAYOR THE MAYOR --
2:15:25PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
INTERPRETATION IS STILL THE CHARTER, THAT
FALLS TO THE MAYOR'S AUTHORITY AT THIS JUNCTURE, JUST
TELLING YOU THAT'S THE POSITION OF OUR OFFICE.
BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS FURTHER AND WE CAN CLARIFY IT.
AND AS FAR AS THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS CONCERNED, I DON'T
THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE.
2:15:43PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST FOR 30 MORE SECONDS, IF
I CAN HAND ONE OTHER DOCUMENT.
THIS IS THE LOCATION IN THE CHATTER -- CHARTER THAT'S 5.01,
AND IT DEFINES, A, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, AND YOU ALL CAN
LOOK UP ABOVE, THE AREA ABOUT WHO THE CLIENT OF THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT IS, BUT I HIGHLIGHTED THIS POINT WHICH IS THE
CITY ATTORNEY SHALL BE THE FINAL OFFICIAL LEGAL

REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CITY, BUT PLEASE TAKE NOTE THAT --
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN CHARTER REVIEW -- THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT IS UNDER DEPARTMENTS, NOT A BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT,
NOT JUDICIAL BARGE OF GOVERNMENT.
THERE ARE ONLY TWO BRANCHES OF THIS GOVERNMENT, THE MAYOR
AND CITY COUNCIL.
AND WHEN WE GET OPINIONS THAT LOOK LIKE THE RULING OF A
JUDGE, ESPECIALLY FROM OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS, IT DOESN'T
ACCURATELY REPRESENT OR REFLECT WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS.
I WOULD SAY JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS AN OPINION BY ONE SET OF
ATTORNEYS, YOU HIRED, YOU HIRE ONE SET OF ATTORNEYS, THE
NEXT DAY YOU GET A DIFFERENT OPINION.
NOW THERE'S A NEW CITY ATTORNEY WHO I THINK WILL LOOK AT
THIS IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIGURE THIS
OUT.
OTHERWISE WITH THE ABSENCE OF ANY SPECIFIC DEFINITION, YES,
WE SHOULD LOOK AT PUTTING IT IN THE CHARTER.
THANK YOU.
2:17:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HAVING A NEW ATTORNEY OR OLD ATTORNEY OR
WHAT ATTORNEY HASN'T BEEN BORN OR AN ATTORNEY THAT'S DIED
AND GIVING AN OPINION, IT STILL REPRESENTS BOTH SIDES OF THE
GOVERNMENT.
AND YOU CAN TAKE THE OPINION OR NOT TAKE IT AND IF I DON'T
LIKE IT, FILE A LAWSUIT.
THAT'S ALL.

I'M JUST TALKING TO MYSELF.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
2:17:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 87, FILE CDD 22-77670.
2:17:31PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
87.
2:17:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ARE WE ALL TOGETHER ON THIS?
EVERYBODY GOOD?
COUNSEL SHELBY, ARE YOU GOOD ON THIS?
2:17:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU.
2:17:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PLEASE, PROCEED.
2:17:56PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I DID FILE A MEMO REQUESTING THAT THIS ITEM, THIS PUBLIC
HEARING BE CONTINUED TO OCTOBER 20th, AND IF COUNCIL
WOULD LIKE TO, WE PUT 9 A.M. SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT WAS THE
TIME THAT WAS NOTED ON THE PUBLISHED NOTICE OF THE
PETITIONER PROVIDED, BUT COUNCIL, IF YOU WOULD JUST SPECIFY
THE TIME.
2:18:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:18:24PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
I'M SORRY, IF YOU COULD SPECIFY
OCTOBER 20th AND THE SPECIFIC TIME.
2:18:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
9 A.M. OCTOBER 20th.

2:18:33PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
IF YOU COULD OPEN AND CONTINUE THIS
HEARING UNTIL THAT DATE.
2:18:36PM >> IT IS OPEN.
2:18:37PM >> NUMBER 87.
2:18:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE JUST CONTINUE IT.
2:18:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED TO HAVE THIS CONTINUED UNTIL
OCTOBER 20, 2022 AT 9 A.M., ITEM NUMBER 87.
2:18:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:18:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
2:19:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
2:19:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
2:19:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
2:19:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
2:19:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:19:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
2:19:06PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:19:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 88.
FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 24.
2:19:19PM >>MCLANE EVANS:
ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, ITEM 88 IS THE
HISTORIC DOWNTOWN YBOR, TAMPA TOURISM MARKETING DISTRICT,
NON AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL.
IF I CAN REMIND YOU TO PLEASE VOTE WHILE THE HEARING IS

STILL OPEN.
WE ALSO HAVE TOM CLOUD FROM GRAY ROBINSON WHO REPRESENTS
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HOTEL MOTEL ASSOCIATION IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS.
2:19:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO BE SPEAK TO THIS,
E-2022-8 CHAPTER 24?
2:20:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
2:20:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OH, IT HAS TO BE OPENED.
EXCUSE ME.
2:20:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:20:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
2:20:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
2:20:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
2:20:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
2:20:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:20:20PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
2:20:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
2:20:22PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:20:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
2:20:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
2:20:32PM >> SECOND.
2:20:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED

BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
YES, MA'AM.
I HAVE BEEN ASKED THAT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 104 --
2:20:52PM >>> MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 104 TO 1:
30 P.M. OCTOBER 20th.
2:20:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
AGENDA ITEM 89.
FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 21.
2:21:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WAS ABSENT FOR SEVERAL OF THESE AND I
REVIEWED THE FILES.
JUST WANT TO SAY THAT.
2:21:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
2:21:25PM >> McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
NUMBER 89 SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER
21, ARTICLE 3, AND ARTICLE 4 RELATING TO CONFLICTING
REFERENCES TO THE STORMWATER TECHNICAL STANDARDS MANUAL.
DURING THE FIRST READING OF THIS ITEM, COUNCILMAN HAD A
REQUEST ABOUT THE ACT TO TRACK IMPERVIOUS AREA, SO EDIE IS
ON THE LINE IF YOU STILL HAVE THAT QUESTION AND WOULD LIKE
TO HAVE IT ANSWERED.

2:22:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
TELL ME THAT AGAIN NOW?
2:22:10PM >>ADRIANA COLINA:
YOU HAD A QUESTION
2:22:13PM >> EVANS:
EVEN THOUGH THEY COMPLETED PERMANENT REQUIREMENTS
AND GOTTEN THEIR --
2:22:20PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:

2:22:21PM >>THE CLERK:
THANK YOU FOR BEING ON.
SOMETIMES WHEN YOU APPLY FOR A PERMIT, IT GOES TO A CERTAIN
AREA.
I SEE PAVERS OR CONCRETE AND YOU DO IT UP TO THE PROPERTY
LINE.
THAT INCLUDED RIGHT-OF-WAY.
NOW, SOMEBODY ELSE GETS THE PAPERS AND HE OR SHE OR THEY PUT
IT ALL THE WAY TO THE STREET, AND IF THEY GET A PERMIT DO WE
KNOW THAT THE PARTIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN IT UNDERSTAND,
ONE WAS ALREADY DONE, AND IF YOU DON'T GET A PERMIT -- AND
THE REASON I SAY THAT, THERE'S AN ADDRESS AT 4000 BLOCK OF
GRAY THAT I REMEMBER YEARS BACK, HAD PAVERS ALL THE WAY TO
THE STREET, AND THEY WANTED TO PUT A SIDEWALK.
SHE HAD TO TAKE OUT ALL HER PAVERS TO DO THAT.
NOW SHE CALLED THE OTHER DAY, THERE'S TWO HOUSES ACROSS THE
STREET THAT GOT PAVERS ALL THE WAY TO THE STREET.
HOW COME THEY CAN DO IT THE WAY SHE WANTED IT DONE AND SHE
CAN'T DO IT?
AND IF WE ARE PUTTING SIDEWALKS EVERYWHERE, THEN I GOT A
PROBLEM.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, THE SYSTEM HAS A PROBLEM, IN AS MUCH
AS HOW DO YOU CONTAIN IT?
HOW DO YOU DO IT?
AND WHAT WE FOUND, LET'S SAY THIS COUNCIL PASSES SOMETHING
AND APPROVES IT AND IT'S FILED AWAY.
WHEN YOU COME BACK AND YOU SELL THAT PROPERTY AND IF IT'S
GOT SWALES ON THE SIDE, I DON'T BELIEVE THE SWALES ARE PART
OF THE RECORD, JUSTIFIABLE SENT OVER TO THE CLERK'S
OFFICIAL, A DIVISION OF THE COUNTY WHERE YOU CAN'T FILL THEM
IN BECAUSE HERE AGAIN I BUY FROM SOMEBODY ELSE, THE SWALES
ARE THERE, I COME ALONG, EITHER MYSELF OR MY WIFE OR MY
GIRLFRIEND OR WHATEVER, WE WANT TO ENCLOSE THAT, PUT PLANTS
UP, THEY DON'T KNOW.
THERE'S A SWALE THERE.
WE ARE GOING TO FILL IT UP.
AND WE START GETTING COMPLICATION FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
HOW DO WE SOLVE THAT PROBLEM WHERE AT THE TIME YOU CAN
NOTIFY ANOTHER PARTY THAT IF THEY EVER SELL THE HOUSE THEY
CAN AT LEAST BE NOTIFIED, BUT WE CAN'T NOTIFY THEM?
2:24:29PM >>VIK BHIDE:
MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
WE HAD TOUCHED UPON THAT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE ALLEY
DISCUSSION AS WELL, AND SO IN CERTAIN CONDITIONS, OUR
CONSTRUCTION SERVICES TEAM DOES REQUIRE MITIGATION FOR
STORMWATER ON-SITE, SWALE, OR SOME OTHER MECHANISM.

AND THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE KEEP TRACK THAT THOSE ARE
STILL FUNCTIONING THE WAY THEY ARE INTENDED WHEN THE CO WAS
ISSUED AND HOW DO WE TRACK IT WHEN PROPERTY CHANGES HANDS?
AND THE HONEST ANSWER IS, NOT VERY WELL IN THAT WE TYPICALLY
ADDRESS THESE KINDS OF ISSUES WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT COMPLAINTS
FROM NEIGHBORS, WHERE WATER FROM SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY,
AND SWALES OR POND WERE NOT VERY WELL MAINTAINED.
SO IT'S PRIMARILY IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF INFECTION
PROGRAM WE WOULD NEED SIGNIFICANTLY MORE RESOURCES, AS A
CITY, NOT ANY ONE DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT'S I BELIEVE A COUPLE
OF DECADES BACK, THERE WERE POLICIES THAT WERE CHANGED WHERE
THE ONUS WAS A LITTLE MORE ON THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAKE
SURE THAT CERTAIN MEASURES WERE TAKING PLACE.
SO IN LOOKING AT THESE POLICIES, IT IS PRIMARILY COMPLAINT
DRIVEN, BUT CHALLENGES IS A CONCERN.
2:26:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT I AM NOT TRYING TO DO IS NOT MANGE
IT COMPLAINT DRIVEN BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FOLLOW THE SAME
PROCESS ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND CERTAIN THINGS HAPPEN WHERE
YOU BUY A HOUSE AND IT'S GOT 14 ADDITIONS TO IT AND ALL OF A
SUDDEN FIVE YEARS LATER SOMEBODY ELSE BUYS IT AND WE GO
AFTER THE GUY WHO BOUGHT IT, NOT GUY WHO DID IT.
SO IT GETS COMPLICATED.
A GUY, IT COULD BE ANYONE, A WOMAN.
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE GENDER INVOLVED THERE.
SO I HOPE WE CAN WORK TOWARDS SOMETHING AND GET SOME TYPE OF

AGREEMENT WHERE WE CAN FIND THESE THINGS.
AND WORK WITH THE STAFF OR WHATEVER SO WE CAN COME TO SOME
AGREEMENT WHERE THESE THINGS ARE CODIFIED SO WE CAN CATCH
THEM RIGHT AWAY.
THAT'S ALL I NEED.
2:26:59PM >>VIK BHIDE:
AND I AGREE THAT IT SHOULD BE A POLICY OR
CHANGE THAT WILL MAKE IT EASIER TO MAINTAIN THESE SORT OF
FACILITIES.
AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, OCTOBER 20th, THERE WILL BE
AN ITEM WHERE WE INITIATE THE WATERSHED MANAGEMENT OF THE
STUDY.
THIS IS JUST THE FIRST OF MANY STEPS.
ONE OF THE STEPS AS PART OF THAT INITIATIVE, AGAIN, GOING TO
BE LOOKING AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALSO CITY RELATIVE
TO STORMWATER TREATMENTS ON PROPERTIES.
THAT WILL BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO ADDRESS THIS.
BUT IT IS A CHALLENGE THAT WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS SOONER
RATHER THAN LATER.
2:27:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
2:27:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
WOULD ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA
ITEM NUMBER 89, FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 21?
2:28:00PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:28:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

ALL IN FAVOR?
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:28:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
FILE NUMBER 89.
FILE E 2022-8-21, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
AMENDING CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 21 ARTICLE
3 CERTIFICATES 21-116 AND ARTICLE 4 SECTION 21-116.1
ELIMINATING CONFLICTING STORMWATER TECHNICAL STANDARDS
MANUAL EDITION REFERENCES CORRECTING DEPARTMENT NAME,
REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
THEREWITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
2:28:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
OH, WE CAN VOTE BY -- PLACE YOUR VOTE AND RECORD.
2:29:12PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK ABSENT
AT VOTE --
2:29:18PM >> WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO ROLL CALL.
THIS IS STILL AGENDA NUMBER 89.
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:29:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
2:29:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

2:29:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
2:29:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
2:29:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:29:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
2:29:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
2:29:37PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:29:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AGENDA ITEM 90.
FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
2:29:44PM >>LACHONE DOCK:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
COUNCIL, ITEM 90 IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS RICKY PETERIKA.
THIS IS PART OF THE JANUARY 2022 AMENDMENT CYCLE.
THIS ITEM WAS BEFORE YOU FOR FIRST READING LAST MONTH IN
SEPTEMBER 15th AND IT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND
READING.
AND ADOPTION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE ALSO IF NEEDED.
2:30:16PM >> RICKY PETERIKA, DARK MOSS, CENTRAL AVENUE.
KNIFE PRESENTATION AND LOOK FORWARD TO IMPROVE MY PARKING IN
THE NEAR FUTURE.
2:30:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES
TORE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?

MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CAN YOU READ THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE?
2:30:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 90, E 2022-8-CHAPTER 2, SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA RELATING TO LANDSCAPING AND GRAND TREES MAKING
REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27
ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING SECTION 27-43,
DEFINITIONS, AMENDING SECTION 27-211-13, LAND MEASUREMENT
METHODS, AMENDING SECTION 27-284.3.1, LANDSCAPING AND TREE
PLANTING STANDARDS, TREE PRESERVATION, RETENTION, STANDARD,
AMENDING SECTION 27-284.3.3, LANDSCAPING AREA AND TREE
PLANTING REQUIREMENTS AND CREATING SECTIONS 27-283.16,
BICYCLE PARKING, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
IS THE.
2:31:48PM >> SECOND.
2:31:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
I'M SORRY?
2:31:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THIS SARASOTA SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE THAT
I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
2:31:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

2:32:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
2:32:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
2:32:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:32:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
2:32:08PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES HIT.
2:32:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
2:32:10PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:32:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 91.
FILE NUMBER E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
2:32:23PM >>LACHONE DOCK:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
COUNCIL, NUMBER '1 IS ANOTHER PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT
AMENDMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS ANGELA ROBER.
SHE IS PART OF THE JANUARY 2022 AMENDMENT CYCLE ALSO.
THIS REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE CBD, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT
SIGNAGE CODE, AND IT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING
AND ADOPTION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
2:32:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
APPLICANT?
APPLICANT IS NOT HERE ST. APPLICANT ONLINE?
2:33:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE TO CLOSE.

2:33:07PM >> SECOND.
2:33:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO
WISHES -- THANK YOU.
2:33:15PM >> HELLO?
2:33:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE CANNOT SEE YOU.
YES, THERE YOU ARE.
2:33:30PM >> I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS BUT HAVE NO FURTHER
PRESENTATION AT THIS TIME.
2:33:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS?
SEEING NONE.
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:34:00PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE FILE NUMBER 91, FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER
27.
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO
BUILDING SIGNS MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27 ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING
SECTION 27-183, GENERAL DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT STANDARD,
REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
THEREWITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

DATE.
2:34:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
2:34:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:34:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
2:34:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
2:34:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:34:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
2:34:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
2:34:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
2:34:40PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:34:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AGENDA ITEM 92.
FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27.
2:34:50PM >>LACHONE DOCK:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THIS IS THE LAST PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT FOR
TODAY.
ITEM NUMBER 92, THE APPLICANT IS BEING REPRESENTED BY COLIN
RICE.
THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT THAT'S A PART OF THE
JANUARY 2022 AMENDMENT CYCLE, AND THIS REQUEST IS TO AMEND
THE BONUS PROVISIONS AS THEY WOULD BE APPLY TO THE CHANNEL
DISTRICT.
AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
2:35:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
MR. RICE, ARE YOU THE PETITIONER?
2:35:26PM >> COLIN RICE:
CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME?
TERRIFIC.
NO FURTHER PRESENTATIONS TODAY.
JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
2:35:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
THIS?
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR?
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:35:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO BONUS PROVISIONS IN THE CHANNEL
DISTRICT MAKING REVISIONS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27 ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT AMENDING
SECTION 27-140, BONUS PROVISIONS, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES
OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:36:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

2:36:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:36:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
2:36:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEP.
2:36:19PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
2:36:20PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
2:36:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
2:36:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
2:36:24PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:36:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:36:30PM >>LACHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
2:36:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MS. DOCK.
2:36:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NUMBER 93 AND 9 , I DON'T KNOW FITS
POSSIBLE TO, BUT MY FIRM DOES BUSINESS WITH THAN AN
INDIVIDUAL HOE HAS AN INTEREST IN THIS.
MY FIRM DOES NOT WORK ON ANY CITY RELATED PROJECTS, AND WE
ALSO ARE NOT WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, BUT ON THE ADVICE OF
MS. CATE AND CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY IN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION I
AM GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF ON BOTH OF THOSE.
2:37:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
CITY COUNCIL, 93 AND 98, CAN WE DO 98 AFTER 93?
OKAY.
ANYONE WHO IS GIVING ANY TESTIMONY.
2:37:24PM >>CATE WELLS:
FOR THE RECORD.

REALIZING THAT 93 AND 98 ARE RELATED, I THINK THE REZONING
SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN ADVANCE OF THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
APPLICATION.
SO IF 98 CAN BE HEARD PRIOR TO 93.
THANK YOU.
2:37:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT.
WE ARE NOW IN QUASI-JUDICIAL.
ANYBODY GIVING ANY EVIDENCE FOR ANY OF THE REMAINING
HEARINGS, AGENDA ITEMS, ANYONE GIVING ANY EVIDENCE OR
COMMENTS, PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN IN.
2:38:03PM >>THE CLERK:
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
(OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
2:38:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
PER REQUEST WE WILL HEAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 98, WHICH IS
FILE NUMBER REZ 22-97.
2:38:34PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 98 IS REZ 22-97 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION FOR 4004 HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM CG COMMERCIAL
GENERAL TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESTAURANT AND ALL
COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES.
DOCUMENTS WERE DROPPED OFF THIS WEEK AT CITY HALL.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
2:39:07PM >>RYAN MANASSE:
WE ARE HERE

RYAN MANASSE, JOHNSON POPE, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, SUITE
3100. WE ARE HERE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. WE HAVE
MADE ALL CORRECTIONS.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:39:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE,
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
AGENDA ITEM 98?
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR?
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:39:37PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
VICINITY OF 4004 HENDERSON BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESTAURANT, AND ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL
USES, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:39:58PM >> SECOND.
2:40:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:40:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:40:07PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

2:40:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
2:40:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
2:40:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
2:40:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
2:40:13PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
ABSTAINING.
2:40:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
NOW AGENDA ITEM 93, FILE AB-2-22-13.
2:40:29PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 936 IS AB 2-22-13 FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION FOR SPECIAL USE 2.
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES FOR SMALL VENUE FOR CONSUMPTION OFF
PREMISES OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, AT 4004 HENDERSON
BOULEVARD.
SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF AT CITY HALL EARLIER THIS WEEK.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:40:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
MR. MANASSE.
2:40:56PM >> RYAN MANASSE, JOHNSON POPE. 401 EAST JACKSON STREET,
SUITE 3100.
WE MADE CORRECTIONS TO HOURS OF OPERATION AND REQUEST YOUR
APPROVAL.
2:41:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS
IN CHAMBERS?
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?

MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:41:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE NUMBER AB 2-22-13.
AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2
FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON
THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 4004
HENDERSON BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR
PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:41:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
2:42:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECONDED BY
MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:42:06PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
2:42:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
2:42:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
2:42:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
2:42:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:42:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.

2:42:13PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
ABSTAINING.
2:42:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 94.
FILE REZ 22-50.
2:42:21PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 94 IS REZ 22-50 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION FOR LOCATED AT 1402 EAST 98th
AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS 350
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS ON THE LINE AS WELL.
2:42:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
APPLICANT, YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN, HAVEN'T YOU?
YOU ARE MUTED.
2:42:57PM >> GOOD DAY.
THIS IS JENNIFER BARRITTE FOR FILE NUMBER 94.
I AM STILL REQUESTING TO RM-18, NOTHING HAS CHANGED AND I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
2:43:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AND YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN?
2:43:16PM >> YES, THANK YOU.
2:43:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I'M SORRY, I AM NOT DOUBTING YOU ABOUT YOU
LET'S JUST SWEAR YOU IN TO MAKE SURE WE COVER ALL OUR BASES.
2:43:28PM >>THE CLERK:
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU JUST
PROVIDED IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
2:43:34PM >> YES.
2:43:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 94?
2:43:46PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:43:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONTO ON LINE?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR?
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:43:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
FILE REZ 22-50.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1402 EAST 98th AVENUE IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:44:23PM >> SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:44:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
2:44:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.

2:44:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
2:44:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
2:44:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:44:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
2:44:32PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:44:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 95.
REZ 22-60.
2:44:43PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 95 IS REZ 22-60 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION FOR 1515 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM OP 1 OFFICE
PROFESSIONAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
MULTIFAMILY AND RESTAURANT USES. SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED
OFF AT CITY HALL EARLIER THIS WEEK.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:45:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES? PETITIONER?
2:45:13PM >> KAMI CORBETT, HILL, WARD, HENDERSON, JUST HERE TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS AND I BELIEVE RANDY COEN OUR EXPERT
TRANSPORTATION IS ONLINE WITH AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
YOUR APPROVAL.
2:45:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
THIS?

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE?
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
2:45:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM NUMBER 95, FILE REZ 22-60.
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
1515 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION OP-1 OFFICE PROFESSIONAL TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, AND
RESTAURANT USES, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:46:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.
2:46:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:46:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
2:46:18PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
2:46:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
2:46:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:46:20PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
2:46:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
2:46:22PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:46:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 96 FILE REZ 22-66.
2:46:30PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 96 IS REZ 22-66.

PRESENTED FOR SECOND READ BEING AND ADOPTION.
326 SOUTH PLANT AVENUE.
FROM RO-1 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY USES.
SITE PLANS WERE TURNED IN TO CITY HALL EARLIER THIS WEEK.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:46:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
APPLICANT?
KEN REALI, EAST JACKSON STREET, HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
2:47:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT?
WE HAVE NO ONE ONLINE?
2:47:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE TO --
2:47:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:47:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED BY GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR?
2:47:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE NUMBER 96, FILE REZ 22-66, ORDINANCE
BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 326
SOUTH PLANT AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RO-1 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.

2:47:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.
2:47:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:47:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
2:47:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
2:47:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:47:56PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
2:47:57PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
2:47:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
2:47:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
2:48:00PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:48:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 97.
FILE REZ 22-67.
MS. BARNES.
2:48:09PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 97 IS REZ 22-67 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION, WITH 3002 ESPANOL LANE, 3015 WEST SANTIAGO STREET,
3105 BAY OAKS COURT, 3015 SOUTH YSABELLA AVENUE, FROM RM-35
RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND PD TO PD FOR RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY USES INCLUDING INTERIM PARKING USES.
SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF EARLIER AT CITY HALL THIS WEEK.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:48:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
2:48:55PM >>TYLER HUDSON:
400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE HERE TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS.
2:48:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE?
2:49:03PM >> I HAVE PROPERTY AT -- OH, SORRY.
AND THE RESIDENTS -- OH, MY NAME IS JOLENE NELL.
SOME I HAVE THE PROPERTY ON SANTIAGO, 2927, AND WE WOULD
LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE PARKING RESTRICTIONS FOR THAT STREET
BASED ON THE REZONING.
WOULD RESIDENTS BE ALLOWED TO PARK ON THIS STREET WITH THE
CURRENT ZONING, THE PROPOSED ZONING?
THIS IS A QUESTION THAT WE HAVE.
AND WOULD PARKING BE ALLOWED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET OR
PARKING ONLY ON THE SIDE THAT MY STRUCTURE IS LOCATED ON?
2:49:51PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
2:50:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
REBUTTAL?
2:50:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PRESENTATION?
2:50:11PM >>TYLER HUDSON:
JUST TO ANSWER A QUESTION THAT COUNCIL
MIGHT ASK ME, THERE IS NO PARKING ON SANTIAGO STREET.
WE ALREADY HAVE PERMITTED PLANS FOR SANTIAGO STREET.
RECALL THIS IS A REZONING THAT COUNCIL APPROVED IN 2020.
WE ARE HERE MODIFYING IT.
SO OUR VIEW IS THAT SANTIAGO IS GOING TO BE MUCH IMPROVED
WITH SIDEWALKS.
WE TALKED TO SEVERAL MEMBERS, SEVERAL RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN
HOME COMMUNITY OF SANTIAGO REFERENCE THE MAJORITY WAS THAT

THERE NOT BE ON-STREET PARKING INSTEAD OF SIDEWALKS, AND
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO.
WE WILL CERTAINLY BE DISCUSSING THIS PLAN WITH THE SPECIFIC
RESIDENTS YOU SPOKE OF BUT THE PLAN IS NO ON-STREET PARKING,
SIDEWALKS WHICH I THINK IS GOING TO BETTER CONNECT
MacDILL, BAYSHORE, PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS.
2:51:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OTHER QUESTIONS?
2:51:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:51:06PM >> DIANE VERSAGGI, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE
YOURSELF AND TURN ON YOUR VIDEO.
2:51:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU ARE MUTED.
2:51:31PM >> SORRY.
CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN TO SHOW A COUPLE OF IMAGES?
2:51:41PM >>THE CLERK:
YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN FIRST.
2:51:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
2:51:49PM >>THE CLERK:
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
TRUTH?
2:51:54PM >> I DO.
AM I ABLE TO SHOW IMAGES ON HERE?
2:51:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
CAN YOU SHARE YOUR SCREEN?
2:52:01PM >> OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT.
ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE PowerPoint?

2:52:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, WE ARE.
2:52:16PM >> PERFECT.
ALL RIGHT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CITY COUNCIL, FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
I AM DIANE VERSAGGI, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
HERE IS A PICTURE OF US MOVING IN IN 1978.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE ARE LOCATED, LOOKING
FROM DAY BAR TO SANTIAGO, WE ARE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE,
2917 SANTIAGO.
AND WE ARE ON THE LEFT FROM YSABELLA. AND JUST AN AERIAL
VIEW.
THIS IS BAYSHORE.
THIS IS OUR DRIVEWAY OFF OF YSABELLA.
SO IT WAS RELATED THAT THE TREES WILL BE PROTECTED WITH
ALTERNATIVE CONSTRUCTION METHODS WHICH IS FANTASTIC.
REQUESTED IN THE PLANS GOING FORWARD, SO THERE ISN'T ANY
CONFUSION IN THE FUTURE AND NO ONE TRIES TO TAKE DOWN A TREE
AND APOLOGIZE LATER.
AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE THREE FROM THE TOP PICTURE IN THE
PROGRAM.
THE INTERSECTION WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE THE STREET REALLY LOOK
OLD TAMPA BUT WOULD ALSO LET THAT TREE LIVE AND THE TREE
COVERAGE WAS A MASSIVE SELLING POINT FOR US SO I WOULD
IMAGINE WE WOULD WANT TO KEEP THAT CANOPY.
THE PROJECT HAS ALREADY TAKEN TREE COVERAGE FROM 52% TO 4 SO

WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP AS MANY TREES AS WE CAN.
AND JUST TO SHOW YOU ON THAT TO IMAGE WE TALKED LAST MONTH
ABOUT PEOPLE ILLEGALLY PARKING ON THAT INTERSECTION.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE DO ILLEGAL PARKING.
AND THE TRAFFIC I WANTED TO ALSO MENTION, WITHIN THREE CITY
BLOCKS BORDERED MOST BY TWO LANE ROADS WE HAVE ALLOWED 333
UNITS BETWEEN TWO AND FOUR BEDROOMS TO BE BUILT, AND JUST TO
GIVE YOU AN IDEA ON YSABELLA, THIS IS A LOT MORE BEDROOMS
PER STREET, AND WE JUST REQUEST EVEN FOR US, EVEN FOR THE
RICH PEOPLE THAT GOING TO MOVE IN, THAT THE CITY DO A
TRAFFIC STUDY ON MacDILL, BAY TO BAY AND BAYSHORE IN
RELATION TO YSABELLA.
I KNOW RIGHT NOW EVEN WITH NO ONE LIVING THERE, TO MAKE A
LEFT ONTO BAY TO BAY FROM YSABELLA ESPECIALLY DURING BUSY
TIMES IT'S VERY DANGEROUS, AND MENTIONING A LEFT ON
MacDILL FROM SANTIAGO. AND RESIDENTS KNOW HOW HORRIBLE
IT IS.
ALSO AS FOR GUEST PARKING, I KNOW THERE -- HAS THE CITY
CONSIDERED ALLOWING RESIDENTS OR EVEN GUESTS TO PARK UNDER
THE LEE ROY SELMON EXPRESSWAY?
IF YOU LOOK THERE'S NO PUBLIC PARKING WHATSOEVER IN THIS
ENTIRE AREA.
IF ANYBODY WANTED TO PUBLIC PARK THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO OVER
TO THE OTHER SIDE OF MacDILL WHICH IS ALSO DANGEROUS.
I JUST WANT TO ALSO MENTION, I KNOW THAT ANNIE HAS BEEN

PRESENTING A STAFF REPORT IN SEPTEMBER SO I KNOW WAIVERS ARE
NEAR DURING CONSTRUCTION.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE CITY COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING THE
REZONING FACTOR FOR IT IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
[BELL SOUNDS]
2:55:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:55:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM NOT 100% POSITIVE ON THIS ONE BUT
MY UNDERSTANDING, IT WOULDN'T THE CITY OF TAMPA, IT TWO
EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY, SO UNDERNEATH THE EXPRESSWAY AS YOU
MENTION, YES?
2:55:38PM >> I THOUGHT YOU WERE ASKING ME A QUESTION.
2:55:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, I WAS RESPONDING TO MS. VERSAGGI.
I THINK THEY ARE LOOKING AT UTILIZING OR ACTIVATING THAT
BOTTOM PART TO MAKE IT MORE, I DON'T KNOW, WHETHER A DOG
PARK, WHETHER SOMETHING THAT IS MORE SO THAN WHAT IT IS, YOU
KNOW, JUST PLAIN.
SO THAT MAYBE COMING IN THE FUTURE.
I AM NOT 100% POSITIVE, BUT I THINK THERE MAY BE SOMETHING
IN THE WORKS, OR BEING TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE
THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY, NOT THE CITY.
BUT I THINK SOMETHING IS COMING IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU.
2:56:09PM >> THANK YOU.

2:56:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. HUDSON, DID YOU WANT REBUTTAL?
I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOMETHING IN YOUR PLANS ABOUT THAT AREA.
2:56:17PM >>TYLER HUDSON:
SURE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ONLINE?
OKAY.
2:56:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:56:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST SO-DOESN'T HAVE TO DO IT BACKWARDS.
SINCE YOU ARE ALSO THE TRANSPORTATION GUY, CAN YOU LET US
KNOW THE PLANS YOU HAVE FOR THAT PARK?
THEY WON'T BE PRECLUDE PUTTING A TRAIN STATION THERE,
CORRECT?
2:56:39PM >> I'LL ADDRESS THAT.
TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE. IN TERMS MUCH
PROTECTING THE TREES, THE SIDEWALK, WE SHALL OBLIGATED TO RE
RYAN CERTAIN TREES.
WE ARE CONFIDENT WE CAN DO BOTH.
AS RICKY RELATED I CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT.
THERE'S ALTERNATIVE CONSTRUCTION METHODS TO DO.
BOARD WALKS.
KEEPING THE TREES.
THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE 100% ALIGNED.
ON THAT PARKING WE ARE ACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO PUT NO PARKING
SIGNS AT 45-DEGREE ANGLES IN PARTICULAR, AND WE ARE GOING TO
DO THAT.
SO THESE HAPPENING.

TRAFFIC STUDY, WE DID DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.
200 UNITS ON THIS PIECE OF LAND FOUR YEARS AGO, 40 YEARS AGO
THERE WERE 200 UNITS ON THIS AREA OF LAND.
OUR TRAFFIC EXPERT IS HERE AS WELL IN THE BACK.
THAT TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS THAT WOULD GENERATE FEWER TRIPS
BECAUSE IT'S A HIGH-RISE AS OPPOSED TO A GARDEN STYLE
APARTMENT.
FOR GUEST PARKING WE ARE MEETING CODE IN TERMS OF GUEST
PARKING.
WE ARE NOT SEEKING A PARKING WAIVER.
FINALLY WE HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY FOR YEARS
NOW, CONVERSATIONS RECENTLY WITH DOUG SLATER THE NEW
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR HOW TO DEVELOP THIS PARK.
IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT PUBLIC ART COMPONENT THAT WILL BE
CONTRIBUTING TO, AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME PARKING, BUT WE ARE
GOING TO FOLLOW THEIR LEAD ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S THEIR
PROPERTY, BUT WE CERTAINLY THINK IT WILL ENHANCE THAT FROM
AN ART PERSPECTIVE I.HONESTLY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I
KNOW THERE IS A TRAIN LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THERE SO WE'LL
HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
2:58:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:58:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:58:22PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.
2:58:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
I AM SO SORRY.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
TRYING TO GET THE BEST OF BOTH WORLD HERE.
2:58:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IT?
VERY GENERAL VICINITY OF 3002 ESPANOL LANE, 3015 WEST
SANTIAGO STREET, 3105 BAY OAKS COURT AND 3015 SOUTH YSABELLA
FROM ZONING CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND RM
RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, INTERIM PARKING PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:59:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
2:59:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:59:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
2:59:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:59:19PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I VOTE AGAINST THIS LAST TIME AND I STATED
MY REASONS LAST TIME.
2:59:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
2:59:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
2:59:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

2:59:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
2:59:31PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
2:59:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM 99, FILE VAC 22-20.
2:59:39PM >>ROSS SAMMONS:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, FILE VAC 22-20.
FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
IT'S PROPOSED VACATING.
CAN COUNCIL SEE MY SCREEN?
2:59:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
2:59:59PM >>ROSS SAMMONS:
THANK YOU.
THE APPLICANT'S NAME IS DEBORAH WILSON, PROPERTY ADDRESS IS
2903 EAST 17th AVENUE, TO VACATE APPORTION OF THE ALLEY
LYING SOUTH OF 17th AVENUE, NORTH OF COLUMBUS DRIVE,
EAST OF 29th STREET, WEST OF 30th STREET.
THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED WITH CITY OF TAMPA ON MAY 1st
OF 2022.
THE APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY ON EACH SIDE OF THE ALLEY THAT
IS PROPOSED TO BE VACATED.
THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN THAT PORTION OF THE
PROPERTY.
THE SUBDIVISION PLAT, THE EXISTING ALLEYWAY REQUESTED TO BE
VACATED IS APPROXIMATELY 1030 SQUARE FEET.
HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IN RED AND THE
PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN YELLOW.
AGAIN, IT'S THE LOWEST PORTION OF THE ALLEY.
HERE IS THE CITY OF TAMPA ATLAS PAGE SHOWING PREVIOUS

VACATINGS IN THE VICINITY.
AGAIN THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS IN PINK.
AGAIN, THE PROPOSED TAKING IN RED, IN THE PLAT.
THE IMAGE OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH FROM
17th AVENUE.
THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING SOUTH FROM 17th AVENUE.
THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING NORTH FROM COLUMBUS DRIVE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE REST OF THE ALLEY LOCATED WITHIN THAT
BLOCK IS BEING USED.
STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS VACATING Q.SPECIAL
CONDITIONS, NATURAL RESOURCES MUST COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27,
TREE PRESERVATION, DESIRE FOR IMPROVEMENTS, ADJACENT TO
TREES IN ANY VACATED AREAS.
MUST MEET ALL NFPA CODES DURING ANY PERMITTING.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
THANK YOU.
TFR MUST MEET ALL NFPA CODES DURING ANY PERMITTING.
3:02:15PM >> DEBORAH WILSON, 2903 EAST 17th AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA
33605.
THE ALLEY IS BEING USED NOW FOR DIFFERENT SITUATIONS, DRUGS,
USE AND SALES, HIDING FROM THE POLICE.
SO FIVE FEET OF THAT WILL BE ENCLOSED, WITH MY PROPERTY, SO
IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET IN OR I WOULDN'T HAVE TO CLEAN
THE WHOLE ENTIRE ALLEY.
I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 13 YEARS, AND FOR 13 YEARS I HAVE

CLEANED THAT WHOLE ALLEY INCLUDING MY PROPERTY.
3:02:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUTOPSIES WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
THIS?
3:03:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
3:03:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:03:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE VAC 22-120, AN ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING,
AND ABANDONING THAT ALLEYWAY LOCATED NORTH OF COLUMBUS
DRIVE, SOUTH OF 17th AVENUE, EAST OF 29th STREET AND
WEST OF THE CSX RAILROAD WITHIN THE CORRECTED MAP OF THE
GREENVILLE SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2
HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND
RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN,
PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS, AND REPEALING
CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:04:12PM >> SECOND.

3:04:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ROLE CALL VOTE.
3:04:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES BE.
3:04:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
3:04:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
3:04:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
3:04:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
3:04:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
3:04:29PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
3rd, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
3:04:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 100, FILE VAC 22-21.
3:04:46PM >>ROSS SAMMONS:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION PRESENTING ITEM
NUMBER 100, FILE VAC 22-21.
THE APPLICANT'S NAME IS JESSICA JEAN.
PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 3008 EAST 23rd AVENUE.
THIS IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE ALLEY
LYING NORTH OF 23rd AVENUE, SOUTH OF 24th AVENUE,
EAST OF THE CSX RAILROAD AND WEST OF 31st STREET.
THIS BY THE CITY OF TAMPA ON MAY 3rd, 2022, PROPERTY ON
THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ALLEY PA IS ASKED TO BE VACATED.
THE APPLICATION IS TO VACATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN ORDER TO

ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY OF MAINTENANCE AND PRESERVATION,
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ALLEY WILL BE VESTED IN RESIDENTIAL
PROPERTY.
DOING SO WILL REDUCE DRAIN, TRESPASSING, CRIME, NEIGHBORHOOD
WILL ALSO BENEFIT, AS THIS WILL DETER AND THE NEED FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT AREA TO SECURE THE AREA.
THIS ALLEY WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT, EXISTING WHICH
IS PROPOSED VACATED IS APPROXIMATELY 2,000 SQUARE FEET.
THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY AGAIN IN RED.
IN THE AERIAL.
AND THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS THE ALLEY IN YELLOW.
THIS IS THE CITY OF TAMPA ATLAS MAP.
AGAIN THE AREA TO BE VACATED IS IN PINK.
THIS IS THE PLAT WHERE THE ALLEY WAS DEDICATED, AND LOCATED
ON BLOCK 3.
APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING WEST FROM 31st STREET.
THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST FROM 31st STREET.
THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST FROM CSXR.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S VERY OVERGROWN.
STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS VACATING REQUEST, EASEMENT
RESERVATIONS ARE NEEDED FOR STORMWATER AND WASTEWATER.
NATURAL RESOURCE, TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN FOR ANY
IMPROVEMENTS ADJACENT TO THE TREES IN THE VACATED AREA.
TFR MUST MEET ALL CODES DURING ANY PERMITTING.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I STAND FOR QUESTIONS.
3:07:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SAMMONS? BE OKAY,
NONE.
APPLICANT.
MS. JEAN?
YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN?
YOU NEED TO UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.
3:07:41PM >> I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
3:07:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
3:07:47PM >>THE CLERK:
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT
TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
3:07:56PM >> YES.
3:07:57PM >>THE CLERK:
THANK YOU.
3:07:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU MAY PROCEED.
DO YOU HAVE ANY STATEMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE?
3:08:05PM >> OH, YES, MY NAME IS JESSICA JEAN, THE PROPERTY OWNER AT
3008 EAST 23rd EAVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33605 AND REQUESTING
FOR MY ALLEY NEXT TO ME TO BE VACATED, AND.
3:08:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THAT YOUR PRESENTATION?
3:08:31PM >> YES.
3:08:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES
TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE, THIS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 100, VAC
22-21?
THERE IS NO ONE ONLINE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR?
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:08:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
FILE VAC 22-21, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING
THAT ALLEYWAY LOCATED 23rd AVENUE, SOUTH OF 24th
AVENUE, EAST OF THE CSX RAILROAD AND WEST OF 31st STREET
WITHIN THE PLAT OF LITTLE CUBA SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED
IN SECTION 2 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS
AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN
PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS
PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING
CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
3:09:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MAID MADE BID COUNCILMAN GUDES,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:09:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
3:09:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
3:09:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
3:09:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

3:09:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
3:09:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
3:09:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
3:09:48PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
3rd, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
3:09:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 101.
FILE VAC 22-23.
3:10:04PM >>ROSS SAMMONS:
PRESENTING FILE VAC 22-23.
THE APPLICANT IS HEATHER LEE.
PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 2807 EAST NEVADA AVENUE.
PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS VACATE THE ALLEY NORTH OF
GLADYS STREET, SOUTH OF WARREN AVENUE, EAST OF NEVADA AVENUE
AND WEST OF OLA AVENUE.
APPLICANT APPLICATION WAS FILED ON JUNE 13, 2022, PROPERTY
ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ALLEY REQUESTED TO BE VACATED.
THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS OWNER
MAINTENANCE, CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT, EXISTING ALLEY
THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE VACATED IS APPROXIMATELY 3040 SQUARE
NEAT.
THE OWNER'S PROPERTY AGAIN IN RED, AND THE PROPOSED ALLEY
VACATING IN YELLOW.
AGAIN, CITY OF TAMPA ATLAS MAP SHOWING PREVIOUSLY VACATED
ALLEYS, AND AGAIN THE PROPOSED VACATING IN PINK.

AGAIN THE ALLEY SUPPOSED TO BE VACATED WITHIN THE ALLEY
SUBDIVISION PLAT IN RED.
THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING EAST FROM NORTH NEVADA
AVENUE.
THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST
FROM NEVADA AVENUE.
AND THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST OF NORTH
OLA AVENUE.
STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
EASEMENT RESERVATIONS ARE NEEDED FOR FRONTIER AND TECO.
NATURAL RESOURCES MUST COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27 IN REGARD TO
TREE PRESERVATION, SITE DESIGN, FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS,
ADJACENT TO TREES IN THE VACATED AREA.
TFA MUST MEET ALL NFPA CODES DURING ANY PERMITTING.
THAT'S ALL.
THANK YOU.
3:12:09PM >> HEATHER LEE.
I WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT THE ADDRESS. IT'S 2807 NORTH NEVADA
AVENUE. NOT EAST NEVADA AVENUE.
OTHER THAN THAT, NOTHING TO SAY REGARDING THE APPLICATION
REQUEST.
I'M SORRY, THE APPLICATION IS MISSING A NUMBER?
3:12:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NO, IT DOESN'T HAVE ONE.
SO NORTH PLATTED STREET AND NORTH --
3:12:40PM >> THE GENTLEMAN ON THE SCREEN HAS THE APPLICANT'S ADDRESS.

IT'S 2807.
3:12:47PM >> MY APOLOGIES.
3:12:50PM >> NO WORRIES.
3:12:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
3:13:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK TO THIS?
3:13:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
3:13:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:13:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LIKE TO MOVE 101, FILE VAC 22-23, ORDINANCE
BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING,
DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING THE ALLEYWAY LOCATED NORTH OF
GLADYS STREET, SOUTH OF WARREN AVENUE, EAST OF NEVADA
AVENUE, AND WEST OF OLA AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF BEN HUR
SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HA HEREOF
SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS
MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT
AND PENALTIES, FOR VIOLATIONS FOR INTERPRETATIONS, REPEALING
FOR CONFLICT, DEFINITIONS INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING

CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
3:14:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
3:14:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
3:14:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
3:14:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
3:14:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
3:14:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
3:14:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
3:14:15PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
3rd, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
3:14:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I'M SORRY, I JUST REMEMBERED AN OLD RED
BUTTONS JOKE.
SORRY.
[ LAUGHTER ]
BEN HUR HAD A SISTER.
BEN HIM.
I GUESS IT WAS AN OLD RED BUTTONS JOKE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 102.
ASKING TO BE RESCHEDULED TO NOVEMBER 17th.
3:14:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.
3:15:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?

3:15:11PM >>THE CLERK:
JUST TO SET A TIME NOVEMBER 17th.
3:15:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
1:30 P.M. ON NOVEMBER 17th, 2022.
3:15:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NOW AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 103.
3:15:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FOR THAT ONE, I HAVE GOT TO LEAVE THE
ROOM.
I MANAGE A TRUST THAT HAS A PROPERTY IN THE VICINITY OF THAT
HOUSE AND WAS NOTIFIED.
3:15:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
1023.
FILE VRB 22-24-C.
3:15:42PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, REGARDING VRB
22-24 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4917 NORTH ARRAWANA
AVENUE.
THIS WAS FILED ON BEHALF OF THE AUTHORIZED AGENT MR. CARLOS
CASTILLOS FOR THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED ADDRESS.
HE FILED A REQUEST TO HAVE THE VRB --
THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD HEARD THIS ON JULY 12TH, 2022 AND
DENIED THE REQUEST BASED UPON THE APPLICANT NOT MEETING THE
HARDSHIP CRITERIA AS SET FORTH IN CODE SECTION 27-80.
CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN PROVIDED THE CODE SECTIONS 27-80 AND
CODE SECTION 27-61.
SAMPLE MOTIONS AS WELL AS SAMPLE MOTIONS AND RULES OF
PROCEDURE.
THE STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THIS REVIEW HEARING IS FOUND IN

CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBSECTION J, SUBSECTION 2, AND IT
PROVIDES THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN CONDUCT A DE NOVO REVIEW
HEARING WHICH MEANS THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN ACCEPT NEW
EVIDENCE, TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY, AND MAKE A DECISION TO
DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICANT OR THE PETITIONER HAS
MET THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA AS SET FORTH IN CODE SECTION
27-80.
STAFF JAYNE NMADU IS ONLINE TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE
APPLICATION THAT WAS REQUESTED AND THE DECISION FROM THE
VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
UNLIKE THE OTHER REVIEW HEARINGS WHERE CITY COUNCIL
CONSIDERS DECISIONS FROM STAFF, CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THIS
APPLICATION CAN TAKE THREE ACTIONS:
CITY COUNCIL AFTER REVIEWING THE EVIDENCE IN THIS CASE CAN
AFFIRM THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD DECISION AND DENY THE
VARIANCE REQUESTED.
CITY COUNCIL CAN REMAND OR CITY COUNCIL CAN REMAND THE
MATTER BACK TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD WITH SPECIFIC
INSTRUCTIONS.
FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD
DECISION AND GRANT THE VARIANCE REQUEST.
AND WITH THAT I WILL TURN -- YES?
TURN -- OKAY.
3:18:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M SORRY, FORGIVE ME FOR INTERRUPTING.
I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RECEIVE ANY

EX PARTE WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS AND ANY OTHER THINGS AT THIS
TIME, AND A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE WRITTEN EX PARTE
COMMUNICATIONS.
OKAY, JUST A MOTION, PLEASE.
3:18:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:18:36PM >> MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR?
3:18:41PM >> I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MS. NMADU FOR HER PRESENTATION.
3:18:48PM >>JAYNE NMADU:
PERMISSION TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
3:18:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PLEASE, SHARE YOUR SCREEN, PLEASE.
WE SEE IT.
IT'S NOW BEING ENLARGED.
CAN YOU PLEASE BRING UP THE PRESENTATION?
3:19:06PM >>JAYNE NMADU:
HAS THE PRESENTATION COME UP?
3:19:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO BE CLEAR FOR THE
RECORD, HAS SHE BEEN SWORN?
DEPRIVE ME.
3:19:27PM >> HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN?
3:19:31PM >> NO, I HAVEN'T.
3:19:32PM >>THE CLERK:
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT
TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
3:19:40PM >>JAYNE NMADU:
YES, I DO.
DO YOU SEE MY SCREEN?

3:19:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE SEE IT BUT IT IS NOT IN PRESENTATION
MODE.
THERE YOU GO.
3:19:50PM >>JAYNE NMADU:
ALL RIGHT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS JAYNE NMADU WITH DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 103, VRB 22-24-C, AND THIS IS BEING
PRESENTED TO YOU FOR A REVIEW HEARING REGARDING THE DECISION
OF THE VRB BOARD FOR THE PROPERTY ADDRESS AT 4917 NORTH
ARRAWANA AVENUE.
PETITIONER IS CARLOS CASTILE.
THE PROPERTY OWNER IS YSAMAN MARRERO GACITA, 4917 NORTH
ARRAWANA AVENUE, ZONED RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
THE VARIANCE REQUEST. TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM 7
FEET TO 3 FEET, AND THIS IS FOR AN EXISTING ADDITION TO A
SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING.
IT'S SECTION 27-156-C THAT HAS THE SCHEDULE OF AREA HEIGHT
AND PLACEMENT, 20 FEET FRONT, 20 FEET REAR, 7 FEET SIDES.
IN DETERMINATION OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST. THE BOARD
CONSIDERED SECTION 27-80 THAT HAS THE CRITERIA FOR THE
APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST. AND LEGAL ALREADY WENT
THROUGH WHAT THAT CRITERIA IS AND THAT WAS THE DETERMINATION
THAT THE BOARD USED IN THE DECISION FOR THIS VARIANCE
REQUEST.
THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD HAD THE CASE ON JULY 12, 2022,

AFTER TESTIMONY DENIED THE REQUEST 5-0 TO REDUCE SIDE YARD
SET BACK FROM 7 FEET TO 3 FEET.
THIS IS THE AERIAL SHOWING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED
IN ORANGE DASH.
IT'S AN ANTERIOR IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED
SHOWING US THE FAMILY DWELLING AND HERE IN THE REAR IS WHERE
WE HAVE THE ADDITION TO THAT SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING.
THE ATTACH IN THE BACK, THAT IS THE NEW ADDITION, EXISTING
ADDITION, AND ON THE NORTH SIDE IS WHERE YOU HAVE THAT 7
FEET.
THIS THE APPLICANT PROVIDED SHOWING WHAT WHATS THE EXISTING
SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING.
ON THE LEFT AND ON THE RIGHT, YOU HAVE WHAT IS NOW THE NEW
CONDITION TO THAT SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
ELEVATION SHOWING EXISTING -- THE NEW ADDITION AS WELL.
THIS WAS REVIEWED BY OUR STAFF AND FOUND CONSISTENT AND
LETTERS OF SUPPORT OR OBJECTION TO THIS APPLICATION, AND I
AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
3:23:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
ARE YOU SAYING THAT THIS WASN'T PERMITTED?
3:23:10PM >>JAYNE NMADU:
CORRECT.
THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR BUILDING PERMIT THAT IS PENDING, THE
VARIANCE APPROVAL.
3:23:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HOW LONG AGO WAS IT BUILT?

3:23:26PM >>JAYNE NMADU:
I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
I'M SORRY.
YOU CAN RESEARCH THAT TO YOU.
3:23:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PETITIONER.
OH, I'M SORRY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
PETITIONER.
3:23:39PM >> MY NAME IS CARLOS CASTILLA, 9136 WEST MARTIN LUTHER KING,
SUITE 205.
BUILT THAT LAST YEAR, NOVEMBER.
AND START TO BUILD BECAUSE HIS FAMILY WAS COMING, SO HE GOT
THE HOUSE, TWO BEDROOM ONE BATHROOM.
AND WHEN THEY MOVED, HIS FAMILY IS COMING, THEY START TO
BUILD, AND BRING TWO BEDROOMS, THEY ARE ALREADY LIVING IN
THERE.
SHE'S A SISTER, THEY ARE ALREADY THERE.
SO IT'S SIX -- BEDROOM HOUSE, SO NOW, THE FAMILY IS IN THE
HOUSE, WITHOUT ASKING ME FIRST.
SO WHEN I WAS AT THE OTHER MEETING I DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY
WHAT WAS COMING, SO I TRIED TO GET THE PERMIT AND I KNEW --
THE OTHER IS BECAUSE ON THE BACK, YOU CAN SEE, LATERAL, OR
ALONG LIKE THE BACK OR SOMETHING, WELL, LIKE THE LAN PHI FOR
THE PEOPLE TO PLAY, TORE CHILDREN.
SO ON THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE, THE BATHROOM ON THAT SIDE, SO
LEAVE ROOM FOR THE LANAI.

SO THAT'S WHY.
THE LAST TIME, I DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE
GOING TO BE THERE.
SHE TOLD ME LATER.
NOW I KNOW THE SISTER WITH HER CHILDREN.
3:26:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DOES THAT FINISH YOUR PRESENTATION?
3:26:57PM >> YES.
THANK YOU.
3:26:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE THAT THOSE
ARE HIS PARENTS AND SISTER?
3:27:04PM >> YES.
I WENT THERE, I TALKED TO THEM, WE SIT DOWN OUTSIDE.
BECAUSE 14 IN THE WHOLE FAMILY.
3:27:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
THAT'S HIS PRIMARY RESIDENCE?
HE LIVES THERE AND THEY ARE LIVING THERE YOU ALREADY SAID.
OKAY, THANK YOU.
3:27:25PM >> THANK YOU.
3:27:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:27:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.
ARE YOU THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY?
3:27:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:

3:27:31PM >> NO, NO, I AM REPRESENTING HIM BECAUSE HE SPEAKS SPANISH
ONLY.
ONLY SPEAKS SPANISH.

3:27:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
OH, YOU ARE REPRESENTING THEM.
3:27:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE.
THANK YOU, SIR.
3:27:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:27:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM NOT HEARING A HARDSHIP HERE, THOUGH.
IS THERE A REASON THAT THEY -- THAT PHYSICALLY, IS THERE AN
ABSOLUTE REASON YOU CANNOT BUILD IT IN THAT 7-FOOT SETBACK?
OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, IS THERE A
REASON THAT YOU CAN'T DO THAT?
3:28:12PM >> OH, BECAUSE THE SHAPE OF THE HOUSE, THE KITCHEN, SO THE
CARPORT, THE OTHER BEDROOM.
SO TO GET IT CLOSE.
ON THE LANAI, WE TORE DOWN AN EXISTING ALUMINUM SOMETHING
THERE, THE LANAI.
THEY CALL AT LANAI.
BUT --
3:28:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT THERE'S NOT A TREE THERE.
3:28:52PM >> NO.
3:28:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE WASN'T AN ACTUAL HARDSHIP REASON YOU
HAD TO PUT THERETO?
3:28:57PM >> THE ONLY THING THAT I TELL YOU BECAUSE THEY NEED THE
HOUSE, BECAUSE ALREADY DID IT.
3:29:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LEGAL, CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS?
I AM GOING BACK TO MY VRB DAYS.
THE APPLICANT WOULD STILL HAVE TO PAY DOUBLE PERMITTING

FEES?
3:29:32PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW --
3:29:36PM >> THAT'S WHY --
3:29:39PM >> I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.
IT WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH INSPECTION?
3:29:44PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
YES.
STAFF CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
AGAIN I DON'T KNOW.
3:29:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THEN LET'S GO TO STAFF.
IS THE APPLICANT STILL HAVE TO PAY DOUBLE PERMITTING FEES?
THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING STAFF, OKAY?
I AM GOING TO RELY ON MY OWN MEMORY HERE.
YES, PERMITTING FEES AND THE BUILDING WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE
INSPECTED.
SO AGAIN I AM GOING BACK TO MY VRB DAYS.
AND HOW MANY FEET OVER THE SETBACK IS IT?
SIR, COME BACK UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.
HOW MANY FEET OVER THE SETBACK IS IT?
3:30:33PM >> IT'S THREE AND A HALF.
3:30:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS IT WOOD FRAME OR BLOCK?
3:30:40PM >> BLOCK.
3:30:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HOW DID ALL THIS GET DONE?
I ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION.

3:30:44PM >> IT WASN'T --
3:30:49PM >> IT'S IRRELEVANT SO THANK YOU, SIR.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:30:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU ASKED THE QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO ASK.
THE HOUSE HAS NOT BEEN INSPECTED YET, OH, WILL BE INSPECTED.
AND THEN THE SECOND THING, AND SORRY IF I MISSED THIS, DID
THE APPLICANT COME HERE VOLUNTARILY, OR DID THEY GET A CODE
VIOLATION AND THEN PASS FOR THE VARIANCE?
AND ARE WE ALLOWED TO CONSIDER THAT?
3:31:22PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
MS. NMADU CAN ANSWER THAT
QUESTION.
3:31:27PM >>JAYNE NMADU:
THERE ARE TWO OPEN CODE VIOLATIONS.
3:31:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:

3:31:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO THE VARIANCE QUARTERBACK CAME AFTER THE
CODE VIOLATION?
3:31:36PM >>JAYNE NMADU:
YES.
3:31:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
OKAY, THANK YOU.
3:31:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?
AGAIN, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:31:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO YOU SAID THE ACTUAL OWNERS ONLY SPEAKS
SPANISH, CORRECT?
3:31:57PM >> YES.
3:32:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE DO HAVE INTERPRETERS.
MR. MANISCALCO, WE HAVE INTERPRETERS, DON'T WE?
3:32:08PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICIAL.

3:32:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
INTERPRETERS ARE PROVIDED, CORRECT?
3:32:16PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
YES.
BUT I BELIEVE THIS GENTLEMAN REPRESENTED THE PROPERTY OWNER
AT THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
3:32:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
OH, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO GET.
SO HE WASN'T REPRESENTED AT THE VRB.
3:32:28PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
YES, SIR.
3:32:38PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
3:32:40PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
3:32:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NO ONE REGISTERED.
3:32:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
3:32:49PM >> NATURE REBUTTAL?
3:32:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OR CLOSING COMMENTS?
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY?
3:33:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY CLOSING COMMENTS, SIR?
3:33:03PM >> NO.
ASKING THE PEOPLE CALLED ME AND ASKED ME, SO I EXPLAINED TO
HIM, OH, NO PROBLEM.
AND ONLY ONE PERSON, HE SAID IT'S OKAY, NO PROBLEM.
3:33:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
3:33:28PM >> SECOND.
3:33:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
COUNCILMAN.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:33:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HAVING HEARD THIS AND WHAT THE
GENTLEMAN HAS SAID, CONSIDERING A COUPLE OF FACTORS.
ONE, WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS SITUATION IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, BUT IT DOES NOT MAKE THIS OKAY.
SECOND, CONSIDERING THE FAMILY IS HERE FROM CUBA, I KNOW
PERSONALLY, BECAUSE MY FAMILY, SOME OF MY FAMILY, MY MOTHER
LEFT CUBA AND CAME HERE.
THEY ARE NOT WORKING, HE SAID.
SO CONSIDERING THE HOUSING CRISIS WE HAVE, THE COST OF RENT,
THE COST OF REAL ESTATE, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE NOT WORKING
RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW THEIR RESIDENCE SITUATION, BUT I
WOULD MAKE A MOTION CONSIDERING THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN BUILT,
AND THERE WAS NOBODY HERE AGAINST IT, REGARDING WHAT THE
GENTLEMAN SAID THAT ONLY ONE PERSON RESPONDED AND THEY
RESPONDED, WE DIDN'T HAVE BEEN ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC, I
DON'T RECALL ANY E-MAILS AGAINST THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW
BOARD AND GRANT THE VARIANCE REQUESTED.
3:35:02PM >> SECOND.
3:35:04PM >> DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
3:35:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I CITED MY REASONS FOR IT.
AND I WILL JUST STICK WITH THAT.

3:35:09PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
3:35:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IN THE PACKET THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US BY
MS. PETTIS-MACKLE AND WHICH YOU CITE TO ON HER SAMPLE
MOTIONS, THAT IS THE APPLICATION OF THE VARIANCE -- WHAT I
AM SAYING TO YOU IS, IF YOU ALSO NOTICE ON HER MOTIONS, IT
ALSO SAYS THAT YOU SHOULD STATE ANY FACTS THAT YOU FEEL ARE
APPROPRIATE, AND AGAIN, AND THIS GOES TO NOT THIS HEARING,
ALTHOUGH BUT EVERY HEARING, YOU SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE IN FRONT
OF YOU WHAT THE CRITERIA IS SO WHEN YOU DO MAKE THE MOTIONS
YOU APPLY IT TO THE CRITERIA.
3:35:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND I WILL CLARIFY THAT.
IN MY MOTION TO OVERTURN THE VRB'S DECISION AND APPROVE THE
VARIANCE REQUEST, TO BE REDUCE THE SITE YARD SET BACK FROM 7
FEET TO 3 FEET IN VRB 22-24 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4917
NORTH ARRAWANA AVENUE BECAUSE THE PETITION DOES MEET THE
HARDSHIP CRITERIA AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT I MENTIONED IN
WITH REGARD TO THE HOUSING CRISIS, HOUSING AVAILABILITY,
COST OF RENT AND REAL ESTATE, AND THE FACT THAT THIS HAS
ALREADY BEEN BUILT, AND THIS IS SEPARATE BUT OUT OF
COMPASSION, CONSIDERING THAT IT IS A FAMILY HERE, WHERE
WOULD THEY GO, IS MY QUESTION.
THEY ARE NOT WORKING.
WHETHER THEY ARE WORKING OR NOT, HOUSING IS NOT AN EASY
SITUATION RIGHT NOW.
THEREFORE, THAT IS MY MOTION.

3:36:42PM >> COUNCILMAN VIERA, ARE YOU STILL SECONDING THAT?
3:36:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
I WILL DISCUSS THAT ACTUALLY.
3:36:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AND WE WILL DO THAT.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO MADE A MOTION.
COUNCILMAN VIERA SECONDED IT.
ANY DISCUSSION?
I AM GOING TO GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FIRST.
3:37:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHILE I DO APPRECIATE THE FACTORS, I WILL
RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THE ACTUAL
HARDSHIPS THAT ARE LISTED.
THIS IS NOT UNIQUE AND SINGULAR WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPERTY
BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABOUT FAMILY.
THIS IS ABOUT PROPERTY.
AND WHILE I REALLY FEEL FOR THE FAMILY, WE CANNOT MAKE
DECISIONS AND ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON HOW WE FEEL ABOUT PEOPLE.
WE HAVE TO MAKE -- A VARIANCE REVIEW IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT
THE LAND, AND WHAT'S DIFFERENT IN PARTICULAR ABOUT THIS
LAND, THERE IS NOTHING UNIQUE AND SINGULAR.
I ASKED IF THERE WAS A TREE.
I ASKED IF THERE WERE OTHER IRONS: THERE IS NOTHING
PARTICULAR ABOUT THIS LAND THAT MAKES THIS AN ACCEPTABLE --
TO OVERTURN.
SO I NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS.
3:37:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

3:37:53PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
JUST A QUESTION FOR LEGAL TO CLEAR THE RECORD.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN CONSIDER NATIONAL ORIGIN, IMMIGRATION
STATUS OR JOB STATUS IN THIS, CORRECT?
3:38:07PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CITY ATTORNEY'S' OFFICE.
27-08 CODE SECTION 27-08 DOES NOT CREW THAT THAT AS A
FACTOR, CRITERIAS IN THE CODE.
3:38:18PM >> I THINK SOMEONE LIKE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID WE HAVE TO
BE CONSISTENT.
THERE ARE A BUNCH OF THESE BEING BUILT ALL OVER THE CITY AND
WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT, AND OUTSIDE OF THESE HEARINGS WE
HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOME SOLUTION FOR THEM.
3:38:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:38:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THIS IS ONE OF THESE HARD ONES BECAUSE YOU
WANT TO FEEL COMPASSION.
MY COLLEAGUE IS RIGHT, WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS.
A FAMILY HERE OR POSSIBLY COMING.
BUT THE REAL PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT THE HARDSHIP, I LOOK FOR
THE ACTUAL OWNER TO BE HERE WITH HIS REPRESENTATIVE, TO GIVE
ME MORE EXPLANATION OF THE HARDSHIP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT SOME OTHER THINGS IN REFERENCE TO THE PROPERTY.
WHY IT WAS BUILT, WHY IT HAPPENED.
AND THAT'S WHY I ASK THE QUESTIONS, MR. MANISCALCO, AND SHE
SAID THE REPRESENTATIVE WAS SPEAKING TO THE VRB, AND WHY WE
ARE COMING HERE TO A HEARING TO ASK FOR PERMISSION NOW, BUT

I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL OWNER HERE SO I CAN ASK SOME
PERTINENT QUESTIONS.
SO I'M SYMPATHETIC.
I CAN'T GO ALONG, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE BODY HERE TO ASK
THE QUESTION I NEED TO BE SYMPATHETIC SO I CAN'T SUPPORT IT
AT THIS TIME.
3:39:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:39:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
AND IT'S FUNNY WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, I WROTE DOWN
CUBA WITH AN X ON IT AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO DIDN'T
MEAN THAT, BUT NATIONAL ORIGIN, ET CETERA, HAS NO RELEVANCY
IN MY DECISION, ET CETERA, NOR IN ANYBODY ELSE'S, BUT I AM
GLAD THAT WAS MENTIONED.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE 50-51, 50.1.
I THINK IT'S VERY GRAY.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MAKES A LOT OF VERY FINE POINTS, AND SHE
ALWAYS DOES A GREAT JOB ON HER TIME ON COUNCIL ON BRINGING
OUT A LOT OF THE ISSUES FROM YOUR TIME ON VRB.
YOU WERE VRB, CORRECT?
AND IT SHOWS OBVIOUSLY.
AND I SALUTE THAT.
FOR ME, THOUGH, I LOOK AT THIS 51-49 AS SOMETHING WRITE
THINK A LEVEL OF PRACTICAL MERCY IS INVOLVED HERE FOR ME.
AND WHATNOT.
AND THAT'S WHY I LOOK AT IT.

I THINK SOME PRACTICAL MERCY IS INVOLVED FOR THIS.
BUT A LOT OF GOOD POINTS BUT I THINK IT TAKES IT OVER THE
EDGE FOR MERCY, IN MY OPINION.
THANK YOU.
3:40:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?
I HAVE JUST A QUESTION FOR LEGAL.
WE HAVE SIX UP HERE.
WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE A SPLIT DECISION?
3:41:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.
3:41:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
LET'S SEE WHERE IT GOES.
3:41:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AS A FOREMAN MEMBER OF THE VRB THESE CASES
ARE, SOMEBODY BUILDS SOMETHING, HOWEVER, IF WE HAVE 10%, IF
WE HAVE 10%, THAT'S FINE.
BUT HOW SOMEONE COULD BUILD A BLOCK CONSTRUCTION AND NOT GET
NOTICES.
I'M SORRY.
ANY GREAT MASON.
BUT, SURE, WE HAVE COMPASSION.
BUT IF WE KEEP LETTING THIS TYPE OF THING HAPPEN OVER AND
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WHICH IT HAS, FROM MY YEARS ON
VRB, IT HAS, IT DOES.
THEN WHY DO WE HAVE DESIGN STANDARDS AT ALL?
THIS COULD HAVE GONE TO PLANNING, WHICH IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN,
PERMITTING, AND IF IT WASN'T ACCEPTED THERE, THEN IT COULD
HAVE GONE TO VRB.

I TRULY FEEL FOR THE FAMILY.
I UNDERSTAND.
BUT AT ONE POINT DO WE STOP AND SAY, NO?
IF THIS WERE A MULTIFAMILY DWELLING WITH 400 UNITS, WE WOULD
KNOW THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME PEOPLE.
NO, SORRY, IT'S TWO INCHES OVER, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:42:53PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
3:43:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NO.
3:43:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
3:43:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
3:43:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
3:43:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NO.
3:43:09PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION FAILED WITH CARLSON, GUDES, HURTAK AND
CITRO VOTING NO.
3:43:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE NEED ANOTHER MOTION.
3:43:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE TO AFFIRM THE VRB'S DECISION TO DENY
THE VARIANCE REQUESTED TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM
7-FOOT TO 3-FOOT IN VRB 22-24 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
4917 ARRAWANA AVENUE BECAUSE THE PETITION DOES NOT MEET THE
HARDSHIP CRITERIA IN CITY OF TAMPA CODE SECTION 27-80,
SPECIFICALLY THAT NO HARDSHIPS WERE PRESENTED THAT ARE MORE
UNIQUE AND SINGULAR WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPERTY.
3:43:55PM >> SECOND.

3:43:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:44:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
3:44:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
3:44:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
3:44:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
3:44:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
3:44:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
3:44:13PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA AND MANISCALCO
VOTING NO.
MIRANDA ABSTAINING.
3:44:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FOR THE RECORD, HE FILED THE APPROPRIATE
PAPERWORK FOR THE ABSTENTION, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
3:44:35PM >>THE CLERK:
YES.
3:44:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OKAY.
INFORMATION REPORTS.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:44:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION AND COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA MISSED IT, BUT WE HAVE THESE CASES COME UP ALL THE
TIME.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE HAD A LONGER DISCUSSION
ABOUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT THESE.
3:44:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COULD I JUST STOP FOR A MINUTE?
JUST BE CAUTIOUS OF WHAT YOU SAY.

3:45:08PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AND SAY
IS THAT JANUARY 26th COUNCIL WORKSHOP, WE HAD A
DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT UNPERMITTED STRUCTURES
THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
3:45:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.
3:45:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED
BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
3:45:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE SECOND ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
MOTION FOR THE JANUARY 26th WORKSHOP TO HAVE A
DISCUSSION ON THE PROTOCOL AND COMMUNICATION WITH COUNCIL
DURING AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.
3:45:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY CARLSON, SECONDED
BY MANISCALCO.
HOW ARE WE LOOKING ON THAT DATE WORKSHOP?
3:45:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE HAD TWO AND I JUST ADDED.
THIS WILL BE THE FOURTH ONE.
3:46:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
JUST CHECKING.
ALL IN FAVOR?
3:46:08PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE LAST THING, THIS MORNING WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT LAST WEEK, AND THE HEAD OF COMMUNICATIONS SENT
A MEMO OUT, LONG MEMO, AND I AM NOT ALLOWED TO E-MAIL YOU
ALL BACK SO I WILL JUST SAY THERE WERE TWO BIG COMMENTS.
ONE WAS ABOUT THE NOTICE FOR EVACUATION ON THAT MONDAY.
THE POINT I WAS MAKING ON THAT NOTICE OF EVACUATION IS THAT

I DIDN'T HEAR FROM THE CITY, AND THAT GETS TO -- THE
COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND CITY COUNCIL.
MY DISTRICT WAS BEING VACATED, AND I PERSONALLY WAS BEING
EVACUATED, AND I HEARD IT FROM SOMEONE IN THE COUNTY, THIS
IS BEFORE THE OFFICIAL MESSAGE WENT OUT, AND MY POINT IS NOT
ABOUT HOW FAST THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT SENT OUT, THEY
SAID THEY SENT IT OUT WITHIN A FEW MINUTES OF THE TIME THE
COUNTY DECIDED IT, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD SOME KIND OF
COMMUNICATION EARLIER IN THE MORNING THAT WAS COMING.
THAT'S MY DISTRICT.
I HAD LOTS OF PEOPLE ASKING ME WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND SURE
IT WAS NOT OFFICIALLY NOTICED YET, BUT PEOPLE HAD KIDS IN
SCHOOL, SOME OF THEM ARE THINKING ABOUT EVACUATING, THEY
DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, AND IT TURNS OUT THEY ARE NOT JUST
EVACUATED THAT TIME BUT THEY HAD SOME TIME TO EVACUATE.
SO MY POINT IS NOT ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT, IT'S
ABOUT WE NEED A PROTOCOL, AND THAT WAS MY LAST MOTION, WE
NEED A PROTOCOL TO ENFORCE CITY COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S
IN THAT CITY COUNCIL'S MEMBER'S DISTRICT AND CERTAINLY THE
CITY-WIDE ONES AS WELL.
SO THAT JUST CLEARS UP THAT.
THE SECOND THING WAS JUST ABOUT IF COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL,
AND -- SORRY, THE COMMUNICATION TONE AND CONTENT, LIKE I
THINK COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK MENTIONED, I WAS RETWEETING WHAT
THE CITY TWEETED AND I WAS REPOSTING ON FACEBOOK WHAT THE

CITY POSTED.
SO YES, WHAT THEY DID WAS VERY HELPFUL, AND THE
COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT SENT A WHOLE LIST OF ALL THE THINGS
THAT THEY DID, OR A SUMMARY OF IT WHICH LOOKS LIKE IT WAS A
LOT.
MY POINT IS, IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY TIME, GO TO SEPTEMBER
29th AND LOOK AT JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, I LOOKED AT A BUNCH
OF CITIES BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING
ON.
AGAIN, I WAS NOT GETTING ANY INFORMATION FROM THE
ADMINISTRATION SO I HAD TO LOOK AT WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON
TWITTER.
AND LOOK AT ST. PETERSBURG.
THEIR FIRST TWEET ON THAT MORNING WAS 1:40 IN THE MORNING.
THE SECOND TWEET WAS 5:40.
BY THE TIME PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP THAT MORNING TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO, THE INFORMATION THEY NEEDED ABOUT
WHAT TO DO WAS ALREADY THERE.
MOST OF THE INFORMATION FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA HIT AROUND
10:00.
SOME OF IT HIT AROUND 9 SOMETHING.
SOME HIT AROUND NOON.
BUT ALSO LOOK AT THE CONTENT AND THE TONE OF IT.
IT'S PART OF THE STYLISTIC VIDEOS VERSUS BIG SHEETS, BUT THE
POINT IS THAT IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT, WHAT ST. PETERSBURG

WAS DOING WAS PROVIDING INFORMATION TO ITS CONSTITUENTS SO
THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND WHAT THEY NEEDED TO
DO.
AND TAMPA DID SOME OF THAT, BUT I THINK OTHER CITIES GOT
INFORMATION OUT QUICKER.
AS A RESULT WE GOT A LOT OF CALLS BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T
KNOW, WHAT DO I DO?
SO I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT WE ALL LOOK AT THAT PROCESS,
AND NOW THAT THIS TEAM HAS BEEN THROUGH IT, SET IT UP AS A
PLAN.
ALL OF THAT IS IN THE CAN.
I WOULDN'T EXPECT ANYBODY TO GET UP AT 5:40 IN THE MORNING
AFTER WORKING 24 HOURS BUT YOU CAN PROGRAM TWITTER TO POST
SOMETHING AT 5:40 IN THE MORNING OR WHATEVER.
AND THE LAST THING I WILL SAY, I MENTIONED EARLIER THIS
MORNING, DESPITE THE FACT THEY DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER AND
THEY MIGHT RUN AGAINST EACH OTHER, THE PRESIDENT AND
GOVERNOR GOT TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT ON THIS, AND AN EMERGENCY
IS NOT A TIME TO PLAY POLITICS. IT'S A TIME TO COME
TOGETHER.
AND I HAVE BEEN ASKING OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION WORK WITH ME AND WORK WITH COUNCIL INSTEAD OF
BEING DEFENSIVE ABOUT FEEDBACK, CALL ME AND LET'S FIGURE OUT
HOW TO WORK TOGETHER.
THIS CITY NEEDS US TO WORK TOGETHER, ESPECIALLY DURING

EMERGENCIES.
AND I WOULD ASK THE ADMINISTRATION AGAIN, LET'S FIGURE OUT
HOW TO WORK TOGETHER.
IT DIDN'T WORK WELL LAST WEEK.
HAD WE HAD THE CATASTROPHIC EVENT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN BIG
TROUBLE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCE TO COMMUNICATE
THE WAY WE DO AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER TO DO IT.
THANK YOU.
3:50:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:50:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
A COUPLE REALLY QUICK, IF I MAY.
FOR OCTOBER 11th, I WANT TO GIVE A COMMENDATION TO
STEPP'S TOWING. WE OFTEN SEE --.
DON'T WE HAVE COMMENDATION THAT DAY?
STEPPS TOWING FOR ALL THE WORK THEY DO FOR OUR FIRST
RESPONDERS AND VETERANS.
3:50:40PM >>THE CLERK:
WE DON'T HAVE.
3:50:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHEN IS OUR NEXT COMMENDATION?
IF I MAY THEN MAKE IT FOR NOVEMBER 8th, AND IF YOU ARE
WATCHING MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THERE'S NOTHING ON OCTOBER
11th.
3:51:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I HAVE A QUESTION. IS TOWING GOING TO GIVE
A LITTLE TOKEN OF APPRECIATION TO TOWING?
THEY ARE USUALLY GIVING TO ATU, POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY GIVE A LIMOUSINE RIDE.

3:51:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OH, YEAH, I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
YEAH, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW BUT WE'LL SEE.
3:51:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
3:51:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
REALLY FAST, IF I MAY, VISIT TAMPA BAY TO
GIVE THEM A COMMENDATION FOR THEIR ANNUAL EVENT NEXT
THURSDAY.
I'M WRITING IT UP.
3:51:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HOW MANY COMMENDATIONS DO YOU HAVE?
3:51:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT'S OFF PREMISES. IF IT WAS ON PREMISES I
WOULD HAVE SAID.
3:52:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND BY CHAIRMAN CITRO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
3:52:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY TO RATIFY, I SENT YOU ALL A BREAST
CANCER RESOLUTION, I WANT THAT AS A COMPANION TO COUNCILMAN
GUDES' THOUGHTFUL COMMENDATION.
3:52:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
3:52:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AND THEN LASTLY, I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE IN
DISCUSSIONS, I WANTED THIS TO COME BACK ON NOVEMBER 17th
OF THIS YEAR, NUMBER ONE, TALKING ABOUT YOU CAN CALL IT A
VOLUNTEER CORPS, TAMPA COURT.
WHEN I WAS OUT AT THE SANDBAG LOCATION WITH COUNCILMAN

MANISCALCO, THERE WAS MOSTLY ONLY CITY WORKERS THERE, AND I
THOUGHT TO MYSELF, MAN, THERE WOULD BE SO MANY VOLUNTEERS
WHO WOULD LOVE TO ROLL UP THEIR SLEEVES AND GO OUT THERE AND
HELP OUT WITH THAT, AND WE HAVE CITY WORKERS WHO WORK NINE,
TEN, ELEVEN HOURS, ET CETERA.
AND IF YOU GO TO YOUR AVERAGE ROTARY CLUB, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY
WOULD LOVE TO HELP.
THEY WOULD LOVE TO HELP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO LOOK AT CREATING
YOU COULD CALL IT A TAMPA CORPS, A VOLUNTEER CORP, NOTHING
THAT'S GOING TO GET THE CITY SUED, NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO
DEAL WITH INJURIES, ET CETERA.
IT'S JUST FOR THINGS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, SANDBAGS AND THERE
COULD BE OTHER ISSUES THAT COME UP.
NUMBER TWO IS A FRIEND OF MINE WHO ASKED NOT TO BE CITED BUT
SHE'S A GOOD LADY, GOD BLESS HER, TALKED ABOUT SHELTERS WITH
THE COUNTY AND HOW MANY OF THEM WERE NOT PET FRIENDLY
ACCESSIBLE, AND HOW THAT PRECLUDES MANY PEOPLE FOR WHOM PETS
ARE PART OF THE FAMILY FROM GOING AND SEEKING SHELTER DURING
THE STORM.
SO TO HAVE THE CITY SPEAK WITH THE COUNTY, COULD BE
CORRESPONDENCE, HOWEVER THEY WANT TO DO THAT, ON HAVING MORE
PET FRIENDLY SHELTERS AND POTENTIALLY HAVING ALL SHELTERS TO
BE PET FRIENDLY POTENTIALLY, AND INCLUDING NOVEMBER 17th
MAYBE BEGINNING TO HAVE A CAMPAIGN BY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE

HUMANE SOCIETY, ET CETERA, FOR THE MONTHS LEADING UP TO
STORM SEASON, SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE NECESSITY TO
HAVE VACCINATIONS, ET CETERA, FOR PET FRIENDLY SHELTERS.
THAT'S MY MOTION FOR NOVEMBER 17th.
3:54:26PM >> SECOND.
3:54:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY --
3:54:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IN ONE MOTION?
3:54:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
3:54:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
3:54:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FIRST, YESTERDAY I TOOK A TOUR OF THE WASTE TO ENERGY PLANT
WHICH I KNOW ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OR MANY HAVE TAKEN A
TOUR, SCHEDULED TO TAKE TOURS.
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT, I HAVE NEVER TAKEN THE TOUR OF THE
ENTIRE FACILITY.
WHAT AN IMPRESSIVE FACILITY.
I DON'T WANT TO ASK, BUT IT'S AMAZING, THE TRASH THAT END UP
AT THE CURB AND YOU DON'T SEE IT AGAIN.
THERE'S A LOT TO IT.
AND IF YOU LOOK, IT'S NOT STACKS THAT ARE SPEWING COAL, IT'S
NOT LIKE OTHER PLACES AROUND THE AREA, BUT AGAIN TAKING THE
TOUR, LIKE I SAID, I KNOW MOST OF YOU HAVEN'T BUT YOU HAVE
TO GO.

VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE.
NUMBER TWO, I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS.
COUNCILMAN GUDES, I MET WITH THE GRANDSON OF A GENTLEMAN --
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, 1984, I NEVER MET HIM, BUT WAS A WELL
RESPECTED COMMUNITY LEADER AND BUSINESS OWNER IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, THE ORIGINAL CENTRO AVENUE, MOVING HIS BUSINESS DOWN
MAIN STREET, ON MAIN STREET, THERE'S A SECTION THAT IS NAMED
FOR MOSES WHITE, ON THE RIVERWALK THERE'S A BUS, AND I HAVE
BEEN FRIENDS WITH HIS GRANDSON FOR A WHILE, AND IT TURNED
INTO A FOUR HOUR CONVERSATION, AND HE SHOWED ME PICTURES
THAT -- IT'S NOT THAT THEY ARE RELEASING THEM YET BUT THE
MUSIC HISTORY, PEOPLE THAT VISITED TAMPA THAT I NEVER KNEW
BEFORE, MARVIN GAY, JAMES BROWN, THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE,
RAY CHARLES IS ANOTHER ONE.
THE POINT THAT I AM MAKING IS, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, COUNCILMAN
GUDES WAS ON THE PLANNING FOR FAIROAKS, CORRECT? KID MASON,
BUT FAIROAKS WAS A HUGE PROJECT, AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE
SEVERAL YEARS AGO I MADE A MOTION, AND MANY ON THIS COUNCIL
SUPPORTED RENAMING LAUREL STREET BRIDGE, IT USED TO BE
FORTUNE STREET BRIDGE, NOW IT'S KNOWN AS THE FORTUNE TAYLOR
BRIDGE.
VERY RESPECTED AFRICAN AMERICAN, FORMER SLAVE, OWNER OF LIKE
30 ACRES IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA, NEVER ABLE TO RESTORE THAT NAME.
FAIROAKS, THERE'S A LAKE NEXT CALLED THE -- BUT FAIROAKS
DOESN'T HAVE A NAME.

I MENTIONED MOSES WHITE BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL MOSES WHITE
HOUSE IS OVER ON 36th RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
BUT I WAS WONDERING, SINCE FAIROAKS --
3:57:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
FAIROAKS IS NOT THE COMMUNITY. FAIROAKS
IS A PARK.
BUT THE REASON I MADE A MOTION, THE LONGEST CITY EMPLOYEE
FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS WHO RAN MOST OF THE EAST SIDE PARKS, AND
THAT WHOLE AREA BE NAMED.
NOW IF YOU ARE GOING TO LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING, SEPARATE
BUILDINGS. THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE.
3:58:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, AND
I AM GOING TO PUT A "TO BE DETERMINED" DATE BECAUSE I WAS
THINKING THIS THE LAST FEW DAYS, THAT WE NAME SOMETHING
THERE FOR MOSES WHITE, WHETHER IT'S A COMMUNITY MEETING
ROOM, OR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
AGAIN, THIS HOUSE IS BASICALLY AROUND THE CORNER THERE.
IT'S NOT HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED BUT IT IS SOMETHING TO
HONOR AN INDIVIDUAL THAT DID SO MUCH FOR THIS COMMUNITY, AND
WAS VERY WELL RESPECTED, AND I BELIEVE PROMOTING MORE
AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY, WHICH HASN'T BEEN TO THE CALIBER
OF YBOR CITY, AND CENTRAL AVENUE IS GONE, DEMOLISHED, AND I
WANT TO PRESERVE AND KEEP THOSE NAMES ALIVE.
THAT'S A MOTION WITHOUT A DATE, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD
CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE.
3:58:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.

3:58:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED
BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
3:59:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU.
3:59:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE GOOD NEWS TODAY AFTER THIS LONG DAY,
AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY IT PUBLICLY.
NELSON CONSTRUCTION IS CURRENTLY PAYING FLORIDA AVENUE. IF
EVERYTHING GOES AS PLANNED, FLORIDA AVENUE SHOULD BE OPENED
BEFORE MORNING RUSH HOUR TOMORROW.
3:59:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND AND SECOND AND SECOND.
3:59:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST MAKING AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
AND I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW, BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO
STAY ON SCHEDULE EVEN WITH THE HURRICANE LAST WEEK, AND WE
HAD SOME DRAMA, BUT GIVE CREDIT WHERE IT'S DUE.
SO THANKS TO THEM, EVERYBODY IN THAT AREA -- ACTUALLY
EVERYBODY, BECAUSE NOW DON'T HAVE TO TAKE 275 INSTEAD.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
3:59:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:59:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO MS.
SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES. SHE HAD A BIRTHDAY AND WE WERE NOT
HERE.
I WANT TO SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
SECONDLY, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A COMMENDATION TO THE CLASS
OF 1982 OF THE TAMPA BAY TECH FOR THEIR 40TH CLASS REUNION

CELEBRATION THIS FRIDAY, OCTOBER 7TH.
4:00:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
AND THIS REMINDS ME OF SOMETHING ELSE.
4:00:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM.
4:00:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
4:00:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE LAST ONE, COMMENDATION TO NANCY
HERNANDEZ FOR DEDICATION TO THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR DOMESTIC
AWARENESS AND A FOOD PANTRY, ON NOVEMBER 8th.
YOU ARE GOING TO BE VERY INSPIRED.
4:01:08PM >> SECOND.
4:01:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GOOD STORY.
4:01:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
YES, SIR?
4:01:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ON NOVEMBER 8th WOULD BE THE FOURTH
COMMENDATION AFTER THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH, ROBIN --
4:01:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IT'S ON A TUESDAY, RIGHT?
THOSE ARE COMMENDATION DAYS.
4:01:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THAT IT?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:01:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I HAVE A COUPLE.
4:01:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE A COUPLE.

TOM BRANT WHO I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH YEARS AGO,
SERVED ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FROM OCTOBER 1978 TO NOVEMBER
1988.
HE IS MOVING FROM TAMPA TO TENNESSEE TO BE WITH HIS FAMILY
ON OCTOBER 19, 2022, AND INASMUCH AS WE DO NOT HAVE A
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING PRIOR TO HIS DEPARTURE, HE
CAN'T MAKE IT HERE UNTIL THE TIME HE LEAVES, I WOULD LIKE TO
MAKE THIS PRESENTATION WITH YOUR PERMISSION ON THE EVENING
OF OCTOBER 13, 2022.
4:02:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A
SECOND BY CHAIRMAN CITRO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT.
4:02:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE SECOND ONE IS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A MOTION TO RECOGNIZE THE FINE GROUP OF WATER DEPARTMENT
TECHNICIANS WHO NOT ONLY SUCCESSFULLY RECERTIFIED THEIR
SKILLS BUT ALSO TOOK PART IN THE BACKFLOW PREVENTION
ASSEMBLY TESTER RECERTIFICATION PROCESS AND PROVED UP TO
THEIR TASKS.
THESE EMPLOYEES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING OUR WATER
SYSTEM FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE PUBLIC THAT WE SERVE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION, AND AGAIN THIS IS ON
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 3rd, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WATERWISE DAY
THAT WE HAVE THE COMMENDATION.

4:03:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
4:03:14PM >> MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
4:03:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:03:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING.
COUNCILMAN GUDES INSPIRED ME.
YOU MADE A COMMENDATION TO YOUR CLASS, THE 40th
ANNIVERSARY?
4:03:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IT WASN'T MY CLASS.
4:03:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE MY 20th REUNION NEXT
SATURDAY.
WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE --
4:03:49PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MAKE A MOTION FOR IT.
TAMPA CATHOLIC, RIGHT?
4:03:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
PRESENT THE TAMPA CATHOLIC CLASS OF 2022 FOR THEIR 20th
HIGH SCHOOL REUNION, 2002, PRESENTED OFF-SITE ON SATURDAY.
4:04:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR?
4:04:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ONE LAST THING REGARDING THE WASTE TO
ENERGY FACILITY.
ALL YOUR NAMES ARE ON THE PLAQUE.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, THIS GOES BACK TO 2020.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S IS ON TWO FROM THE DICK GRECO

ADMINISTRATION.
AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND EVERYBODY VISIT IT AND TAKE A TOUR.
THANK YOU.
4:04:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. SHELBY.
4:04:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I HAVE A REQUEST OF COUNCIL.
YOU ADDED A LOT OF THINGS TO THE OCTOBER 20th STAFF
REPORTS, AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO MS. ZELMAN
ABOUT THIS SUBJECT, AND SCHEDULED TO REPORT ON THE ORDINANCE
TO PROTECT ELECTED OFFICIALS, CHAPTER 119, ON NOVEMBER
1st YOU HAVE THAT SPECIAL CALLED MEETING ON THE CHARTER,
ON NOVEMBER 3rd YOU HAVE A REPORT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY
ON HER OPINION -- EXCUSE ME, PREVIOUS CITY ATTORNEY'S
OPINION THAT COUNCILMEMBER CARLSON HAD REFERENCED.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY
ASK YOU TO CONTINUE THE OCTOBER 20 STAFF REPORT TO THE
NOVEMBER 17th MEETING.
4:05:17PM >> SO MOVED.
4:05:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
4:05:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND I WILL WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HER AND I WAS NOT HERE THAT
DAY.
4:05:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

4:05:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
4:05:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
WE ARE ADJOURNED TILL 5:01.
[MEETING ADJOURNED]


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