TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 6, 2022
5:01 P.M.
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05:06:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THE EVENING SESSION FOR OCTOBER 6, 2022 IS
IN SESSION.
ROLL CALL.
05:06:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
05:06:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
05:06:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.
05:06:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
05:06:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
05:06:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.
05:06:57PM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:07:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS DOCK, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE ARE
BRIEFLY GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE AGENDA REVIEW BUT LOOKS
LIKE WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF CHANGES.
05:07:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:07:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:07:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BEFORE YOU DO THAT.
IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND INTRODUCING OUR NEW CLERK.
I CAN TELL YOU SHE WAS AMAZING YESTERDAY.
WE HAD A SITUATION HERE.
IT WAS LATE WITH SOME CONSTITUENTS AND WAS ABLE TO GET HELP, AND
SHE SPEAKS SPANISH, AND WE NEEDED SOMEBODY LAST NIGHT AND SHE
HELPED ME.
MY AIDE WAS GONE.
SULING, IF YOU WOULD GIVE AN INTRODUCTION.
05:07:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I HAD THAT ON MY AGENDA OVER HERE.
BUT PLEASE, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
05:07:47PM >> THIS IS CHARLENE WHO -- SHE IS CURRENTLY WITHIN OUR
OFFICE AND GOING TO TAKE OVER SOME OF DANIELLE'S DUTIES AND
YOU WILL SEE MORE OF HER, AND SHE WILL BE WORKING ON OUR
WORKSHOP AND CRA MEETING.
DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT YOURSELF?
SHE CAME FROM THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND ALREADY A CURRENT
CITY EMPLOYEE.
05:08:07PM >> I AM HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY.
05:08:08PM >> WELCOME.
05:08:10PM >> I AM VERY HAPPY TO HAVE HER.
[LAUGHTER]
05:08:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
CLEAR OFF OUR AGENDA AND THEN GO THROUGH THE
RULES AND PROCEDURES.
05:08:22PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
GOOD EVENING, LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
FOR TONIGHT'S AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE ITEMS
THAT WE HAVE LISTED.
FOR ITEM NUMBER 1, WHICH IS REZ 22-33, THE APPLICANT HAS
REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO DECEMBER 1.
AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:08:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ANYONE HERE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK --
05:08:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WILL GO THROUGH THAT.
05:08:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, SIR.
05:08:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MY MOTION IS TO CONTINUE ITEM 1 TO
DECEMBER 1 AT 5:01 P.M.
05:08:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE IN THE ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK
TO THE CONTINUANCE ONLY TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1, REZ-22-33.
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
THANK YOU.
05:09:14PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
COUNCIL, ITEM NUMBER 2 IS REZ-22-41.
THIS IS A MISNOTICE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE CASES WITH A SECOND MISNOTICE FOR THIS
PARTICULAR APPLICANT -- FOR THIS APPLICATION, AND PURSUANT
TO THE CODE SECTION 27-150-D.
IF THERE ARE TWO MISNOTICES, THE APPLICATION IS WITHDRAWN.
I AM NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
05:09:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CAN WE ASK IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE JUST
FOR THE RECORD?
05:09:48PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THE APPLICANT FOR REZ-22-41, 710 WEST PLATT
STREET.
05:10:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
NOW MISS DOCK, WOULD YOU PLEASE SAY WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
WAS THIS MISNOTICE BY THE CITY STAFF OR BY THE APPLICANT?
05:10:16PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THIS WAS MISNOTICED BY THE APPLICANT.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE APPLICANT WAS GOING THROUGH THE
PROCESS ALSO WITH ARC.
THEY HAD A HEARING AT THE ARC.
IT WAS DENIED.
OF COURSE NO APPLICANT ANTICIPATES A DENIAL.
AND I THINK THEY WERE WORKING WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION TO
TRY TO GET -- TO REDESIGN THE SITE AND COME BACK, BUT THEY
HAVEN'T COMMUNICATED TO US AS FAR AS THE REZONING SIDE OF
THINGS.
05:10:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
FOR THE PUBLIC WATCHING AND THE PUBLIC
HEARING, EXPLAIN.
WHAT IS IF THERE ARE TWO MISNOTICES?
05:10:49PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THE CASE AT THAT TIME IS AUTOMATICALLY
WITHDRAWN.
YOU CAN NOT APPLY FOR SIX MONTHS FROM THE STATE OF THE
HEARING THAT THE SECOND DATE WAS SCHEDULED.
HAS TO BE SIX MONTHS FROM TODAY.
05:10:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MISS DOCK.
PLEASE PROCEED.
05:11:02PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, ITEM NUMBER 2 IS REZ-22-43.
THIS CANNOT BE HEARD.
IT IS A MISNOTICE.
05:11:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO WITHDRAW.
I MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 3, REZ-22-43 FROM THE AGENDA.
05:11:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
05:11:30PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
ITEM NUMBER 4, REZ-22-48.
IF THIS ITEM CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA, THIS IS A
MISNOTICE.
05:11:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION.
05:11:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
05:11:49PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
ITEM NUMBER 6 IS REZ-22-82.
THE APPLICANT ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE TO NOVEMBER 10.
05:12:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO NOVEMBER 10, 2022.
05:12:04PM >> SECOND.
05:12:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND SECOND
BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE
CONTINUANCE ONLY OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, REZ-22-82.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
05:12:21PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
ITEM NUMBER 7 IS REZ-22-83.
IF IT CAN BE REMOVED BECAUSE IT IS A MISNOTICE.
05:12:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
05:12:38PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
ITEM NUMBER 9 IS REZ-22-89.
THE APPLICANT SENT IN AN E-MAIL AND ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE
UNTIL DECEMBER 1, 2022.
05:12:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CONTINUE.
05:12:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE ONLY OF AGENDA
NUMBER 9, REZ-22-89.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
05:13:12PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
NEXT COUNCIL, ITEM NUMBER 10, REZ-22-90.
IF THIS CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
THIS IS A MISNOTICE.
05:13:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
05:13:26PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LASTLY ITEM NUMBER 12 IS REZ-22-99.
IF THAT CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
THIS IS A MISNOTICE.
05:13:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE.
05:13:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO MOVED.
05:13:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
AND THAT MOTION WAS SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
05:13:47PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
IF I COULD --
05:13:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:13:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:13:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
QUESTION FOR MISS DOCK, WHY DO WE HAVE SO
MANY MISNOTICES ON THE AGENDA.
05:13:58PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ASKING THAT.
WE NOTICED THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREASE IN MISNOTICES WITHIN
THE LAST COUPLE OF HEARINGS, WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN ON THE
AGENDA.
VARIOUS REASONS THAT APPLICANTS DO NOT COMPLETE NOTICE.
ONE THING WE DID DO ONCE WE NOTICED AN INCREASE IN
MISNOTICES, REACHED OUT TO THE CLERK, MICHELLE AT THE TIME.
THE CLERKS ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP US WHICH WE CERTAINLY
ARE WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE.
I TALKED TO SULING.
WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THE MISNOTICES, WHAT IS SHE SEEING,
THE SIGNS, NOTICES AND INSTRUCTIONS.
THE NUMBER ONE THING.
NOT COMPLETING NOTICE.
NOT THAT IT IS NOT BEING DONE BUT BEING DONE INCORRECTLY.
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS INCREASE THE COMMUNICATIONS WITH
THE APPLICANT AND ALSO JUST INCREASE AWARENESS TO LET THEM
KNOW THIS IS THE CODE REQUIREMENT.
05:14:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THEY ARE MISSING, WHY ARE WE PUTTING IT ON
THE AGENDA IF IT IS NOT GOING TO BE HEARD.
IF WE KNOW THAT, WHY ARE WE PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA.
05:15:01PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THE WAY IT WORKS IS WE WILL SET A LIST OF
CASES AND SEND NOTIFICATION TO THE APPLICANT TO DO NOTICE.
THEY ARE ALREADY SET SO THE AGENDA IS READY OR DRAFTED AT
THAT POINT.
THEN THE APPLICANT HAS TO COMPLETE NOTICE.
IF THE APPLICANT DOES NOT COMPLETE THEIR NOTICE BY DOING
THEIR MAILINGS, POSTING THEIR SIGNS, THEN THEY ARE
MISNOTICED.
IF THEY DO NOTHING AT ALL, THEY ARE A MISNOTICE.
SOME THINK IF THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING -- THEY MAY NOT BE
READY FOR WHATEVER REASON TO MOVE FORWARD, WHETHER IT IS
CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
THEY DO NOT DO NOTICE.
05:15:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WHY DON'T WE HAVE IT COMPLETED FIRST BEFORE
WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
I WANT -- I WANT YOU TO GO FORWARD TO EVEN GET TO COUNCIL
FOR APPROVAL, I WANT EVERYTHING DONE FIRST TO KNOW THAT YOU
HAVE COMPLETED IT.
YOU ARE WASTING OUR TIME AND WASTING OUR STAFF'S TIME.
THAT IS SOMETHING THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO LOOK INTO CHANGING OR
YOUR DEPARTMENT LOOKING TO CHANGE AND MAKE DIFFERENT
CHANGES.
BECAUSE TO ME MAKES -- I GET THE AGENDA AND I HAVE ALL THIS
STUFF AND COUNCIL IS SPINNING WHEELS AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE
WASTING TIME.
DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT OR IS YOUR DEPARTMENT
DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THAT?
05:16:14PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
WHAT HAPPENS IS, IN ORDER TO BE SET FOR A
CASE, YOU MUST SUBMIT REVISED PLANS, HAVE A LEGAL
DESCRIPTION.
CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU MUST HAVE BEFORE WE EVEN SCHEDULE
YOU.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, WE WON'T EVEN SCHEDULE YOU.
ONCE WE SCHEDULE AND YOU MET THE CRITERIA.
THEN THE APPLICANT IS DOING THE NOTICE AND DOING THE MAIL
OUT AND DO THE SIGN POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.
SOME WITHOUT REASON HAVE NOT POSTED NOTICE AT ALL.
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO ON THE OTHER END IS, ONE, NOTIFY
THE APPLICANTS IF YOU DON'T DO NOTICE, IT IS IN FACT A
MISNOTICE.
A MISNOTICE IF YOU DO IT INCORRECTLY IS IF YOU DON'T DO IT
AT ALL STILL COUNTS AS A MISNOTICE.
THE OTHER APPLICATION MOST RECENTLY WITH THE LAST SET OF
CASES THAT WE SET, WE ARE CONTACTING EACH APPLICANT AND
SAYING WE ARE GOING TO SET YOU.
ARE YOU READY?
THAT WAY THAT CONFIRMS WITH THE APPLICANT YOU GOT TO GET
NOTICE.
YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PUBLIC NOTICE, YOUR MAILOUTS.
AT THAT TIME, THEY CAN COMMUNICATE WITH US AND TELL US
WHETHER THEY THINK THEY NEED ADDITIONAL TIME.
THEY ARE WORKING WITH THEIR CLIENT.
WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND THEY WILL LET US KNOW AT THAT TIME.
I THINK TOO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD IN
THE LAST HEARING THAT SAID WE COMMUNICATE DIFFERENTLY NOW BY
E-MAIL, NOT THE PHONE.
WE DON'T PICK UP THE PHONE ANYMORE.
SO I AM SORRY BUT APPLICANTS, CALLING YOU.
WE ARE CALLING YOU TO SEE.
LET'S HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
WHERE ARE YOU IN THE PROCESS?
ARE YOU READY TO MOVE FORWARD?
05:17:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I UNDERSTAND BUT I LOOK AT IT BEING
COMPLETED BEFORE YOU PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA.
05:18:00PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
ABSOLUTELY, IT HAS TO BE.
05:18:02PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WAITING TO SEE IT IS WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED
TO DO AND THAT TIME AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT.
I THINK THAT IS A PROBLEM AND WE NEED TO REVERSE THAT.
05:18:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:18:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK A LOT OF THE PROBLEM IS YOU CAN SEND
THEM SO FAR AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU HAVE TO NOTICE WITHIN A
CERTAIN WINDOW.
WE CAN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE NOTICE AND THEN YOU GET ON THE
AGENDA BECAUSE THE TIMING.
05:18:27PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THE TIMING.
05:18:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A TIMING ISSUE.
05:18:31PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
EVERYTHING IS CODIFIED.
05:18:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM CURIOUS WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO
ABOUT THESE THINGS.
ARE THERE ANY OF THEM -- I AM THROWING IT OUT HERE.
I KNOW A LOT MORE WORK AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A LEGAL
THING THAT WE CAN OR CANNOT DO.
CAN WE TAKE OVER THE NOTICE AND CHARGE A RIDICULOUS FEE LIKE
$1,000 TO NOTICE FOR THEM.
CAN WE DO SOMETHING IN THAT REGARD THAT WILL HELP GET
FURTHER ALONG SO IF YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE NOTICING YOURSELF,
YOU KNOW, WE CAN CHARGE A STUPID FEE AND DO IT FOR YOU.
I AM JUST CURIOUS.
05:19:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN.
IF I CAN ANSWER BEFORE MISS DOCK DOES.
STATE LAW DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO REQUIRE -- DOESN'T ALLOW YOU
TO COLLECT A RIDICULOUS FEE.
IT HAS TO REFLECT ITS ACTUAL COST.
JUST -- JUST TO BURST THAT BUBBLE.
05:19:24PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THE OTHER ITEM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS WE
HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT WILL BE IN TOWN FOR THE
HEARING.
ARE THEY HERE.
YES, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO NOTICE.
ARE YOU ABLE TO ATTEND PHYSICALLY.
IF YOU CAN'T -- OR EVEN VIRTUALLY NOW.
IF YOU CAN'T, IT WILL DO NO GOOD TO SET A DATE.
05:19:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, BUT SUCH AN INTERESTING CONUNDRUM
BECAUSE -- IS IT -- JUST LIKE WHAT COUNCILMEMBER GUDES SAYS.
NEW PEOPLE WHO JUST DON'T KNOW.
OR FOLKS THAT -- ARE THINGS TAKING LONGER AND PEOPLE ARE
USING THIS MISNOTICE AS A CHANCE TO GET THINGS DONE BEFORE
THEY GET THINGS ON THE AGENDA.
JUST INTERESTING.
05:20:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT'S WHAT I THINK.
05:20:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU.
05:20:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:20:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO MEMORIZE MY COLLEAGUES.
YOU SAID HISTORY.
IN MY YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE I NEVER SEEN SIX IN ONE
CALENDAR THAT WERE MISNOTICED, EVER.
WHAT YOU MENTIONED MISS HURTAK IS THAT WAY BACK, THEY WOULD
HAVE FIVE AND SIX CONTINUANCES.
NOW YOU HAVE TWO.
AFTER THAT YOU ARE WIPED OFF.
YOU HAVE TO START AGAIN.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES OVER TIME AND FOR THE BETTER
REALLY BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO COME IN AND SO MANY
AND YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN.
BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:20:48PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
ABSOLUTELY.
05:20:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
MISS DOCK, YOU AND I -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:20:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
CHAIR SPEAKS LAST.
05:20:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TWO QUESTIONS.
ONE IS -- IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN BEING PENALIZED OF THE
SIX-MONTH WAIT HAVING THE SECOND MISNOTICE VERSUS
WITHDRAWING THE APPLICATION.
WHICH ONE IS BETTER FOR THE APPLICANT?
05:21:18PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
WOULD DEPEND ON THE APPLICANT'S SITUATION.
SOMETIMES AN APPLICANT KNOWS THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO MOVE
FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION.
AND SOMETIMES THEY APPLY AND MAY NOT BE IN THE CORRECT
PROCESS AND THEY WILL WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION.
05:21:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE SECOND THING IS, THEORIES CIRCULATING
WHY THIS MAY BE HAPPENING NOW.
ONE IS THAT OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE THROWN OUT THE WORD
MORATORIUM AND A BIG RUSH TO GET IN THE SYSTEM BEFORE A
CHANGE LIKE THAT WAS MADE.
NO CHANGES LIKE THAT ON THE TABLE NOW.
COULD BE -- ONE THEORY THERE WAS A RUSH JUST IN CASE THAT
HAPPENED TO GET IN THE TIMELINE.
THE SECOND THEORY IS THAT THEIR BUDGET TEXT AMENDMENTS IN
FRONT OF US THAT MAY CHANGE THE SITUATION.
AND SO IF SOMEBODY COULD DELAY UNTIL AFTER THOSE TEXT
AMENDMENTS COME BACK WILL CHANGE THEIR SITUATION.
I WOULD IS SULING OR WHOMEVER IS WORKING ON THIS TO HELP US
UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE NUANCES OF IT.
BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE A COINCIDENCE THIS MANY ARE HAPPENING.
SOMETHING UNDERLYING IT.
NOT THAT THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE MAKING MISTAKES.
IF SOMETHING SYSTEMIC IS GOING ON WE BE AWARE OF IT AND
UNDERSTAND WHAT TO DO.
05:22:31PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
ABSOLUTELY.
05:22:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS DOCK, WE NEED A TIGHTER GRIP ON IT AND
STAFF AND US AND PETITIONERS.
THIS IS AFFECTING EVERYBODY.
AND AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, FOREWARNED IS FAIR WARN.
ONE TIME WE WILL LET YOU SLIDE.
SECOND TIME, YOU HAVE TO WAIT SIX MONTHS.
AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE EVEN LONGER.
THANK YOU, MISS DOCK.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5 REZ-22-58.
05:23:04PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YES, THIS IS THE FIRST ITEM FOR THE EVENING.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THIS THE APPLICATION FOR RAMIK WILSON WHO BEING REPRESENTED
BY MISS WILSON HERE THIS EVENING.
2806 EAST ELLICOTT STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS-50,
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO IG, INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE THE
PRESENTATION.
05:23:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN, HAVE IS YOU OPENED THE
HEARINGS.
05:23:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE HEARINGS.
05:23:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST WHISPERED.
05:23:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE.
THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY GIVING -- HOW WE WENT THROUGH THE
AGENDA FORWARD, BACKWARDS, UPSIDE DOWN AND LEFT, ANYONE
GIVING ANY TYPE OF TESTIMONY TODAY, PLEASE STAND UP TO BE
SWORN IN.
SIDEWAYS, WHATEVER WAYS.
[SWEARING IN]
05:24:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
MR. SHELBY, WILL YOU GO THROUGH THE GUIDELINES.
AND IF I MAY ASK, CAN WE DO THIS ONE TIME THE REST OF THE
COUNCIL THE YEAR.
CAN WE DO IT ONE TIME AND GET IT DONE AND OVER WITH.
05:24:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE CAN DO IT NO TIMES.
05:25:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE DO THIS EVERY MEETING.
05:25:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE DON'T HAVE TO.
05:25:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DO IT ONE TIME AND CLEAR IT OUT FOR THE REST
OF THE YEAR.
05:25:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE SHORT ANSWER OF THAT IS YES.
05:25:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
05:25:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I THINK BRING IT UP AT THE END.
I WILL DO THIS VERY QUICKLY.
THE CITIZENS AND THE PUBLIC OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO
WATCH THIS MEETING ON SPECTRUM 640, FRONTIER CHANNEL 15, AND
ON THE INTERNET AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
AND MEMBERS MAY PARTICIPATE IN TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
PRESENTLY HERE AT 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD BY ATTENDING IN
PERSON OR THROUGH VIDEO TELECONFERENCING REFERRED TO BY
FLORIDA STATUTE AND RULES AS CMT.
VIRTUALLY.
PREREGISTRATION IS REQUIRED.
THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEB SITE,
TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL IN THE AGENDA AND IN THE NOTICE OF
THIS HEARING.
NOW PARTICULARLY IN QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS DEVICE WITH VIDEO
AND AUDIO.
SMARTPHONE ALSO NOT WORK.
I WILL ASK COUNCIL TO CONTINUE TO WAIVE THE USE OF CMT UNTIL
WE MAKE IT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT ANYMORE.
05:26:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
NOW THAT WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING LEGAL, DISCUSS EVERYTHING
THE WAY WE ARE DOING THINGS THE WAY WE ARE DOING, PLEASE
PROCEED.
05:26:28PM >>EMILY PHALEN:
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
EMILY PHALEN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THE SUBJECT SITE IN THE CENTRAL PLANNING DISTRICT AND EAST
TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP LOCATED 0.3 MILE SOUTH OF THE
SUBJECT SITE OF CORNER OF 22nd STREET AND OSBOURNE AVENUE.
FREEDOM TRAIL IS THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY 0.1 MILE
SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN LEVEL E
EVACUATION ZONE.
HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
IT IS OUTLINED HERE IN PURPLE.
IT IS GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF EAST OSBOURNE AVENUE IN
EAST OF MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL WHICH IS OVER HERE.
THE SURROUNDING AREA IS CHARACTERIZED BY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL,
LIGHT AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND A FEW RESIDENTIALLY ZONED
PROPERTIES.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE IN PURPLE.
AND THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
AND THE ORANGISH COLOR IS THE TRANSITIONAL USE-24
DESIGNATION.
THIS SUBJECT SITE IS SURROUNDED BY TRANSITIONAL USE-24.
THIS IS MIDDLETON HIGH.
AND THIS IS RESIDENTIAL-10.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND
NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
PARCEL SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT SITE ARE ZONED INDUSTRIAL
GENERAL.
WHILE THERE IS AN EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNIT TO
THE WEST, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REQUIRES COMMERCIAL USES TO
BE BUFFERED FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT AND
REDEVELOPMENT TO SUSTAIN STABLE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ENSURE THE
SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC HEALTH OF THE CITY AND DISCOURAGES
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT NEAR INDUSTRIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES.
GIVEN THE PRESENCE OF INDUSTRIAL GENERAL ZONING TO THE EAST
AND SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THE PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL
GENERAL ZONING SUPPORTS POLICY DIRECTION BY DISCOURAGING THE
POTENTIAL OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
DUE TO THE INDUSTRIAL GENERAL PARCELS IN THE IMMEDIATE
SURROUNDING AREA, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE
REQUEST COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA
AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED
UNDER THE TRANSITIONAL USE-24 DESIGNATION.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:28:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
05:29:00PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 5, REZ-22-58.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
THE SIZE IS 6600 SQUARE FEET, THAT IS THE LOT AREA.
AND I HAVE AN AERIAL MAP WITH THE ZONING TO SHOW YOU THE
PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT IS IDENTIFIED HERE IN THE RED
DOTTED AREA.
AND THIS IS ELLICOTT.
THIS IS 29th STREET JUST TO ORIENT YOU ON THE MAP.
THIS IS OSBOURNE, TO IT IS NORTH OF OSBOURNE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THIS AREA RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY IS THIS
PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
AND THE PROPERTY WEST OF IT THAT HAS THE RS-50 ZONING.
SURROUNDING IT IS IG ZONING, EVEN TO THE EAST.
YOU HAVE A POCKET OF RS-50 THAT IS HERE AND YOU WILL FIND A
MIXTURE OF THE ZONING DESIGNATIONS HERE WITHIN THIS AREA.
AND RESIDENTIAL USES ALONG WITH COMMERCIAL AND OPEN STORAGE
USES IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA.
AND THEN I HAVE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
SO THIS IS THE SITE.
YOU CAN SEE IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
THIS IS EAST OF THE SITE.
29th STREET IS TO THE RIGHT OF THIS PICTURE.
THIS IS A PICTURE SOUTHEAST OF THE SITE.
THIS IS AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF 29th AND ELLICOTT.
THIS IS SOUTH OF THE SITE.
THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE.
WHICH IS VACANT.
THE LARGER VACANT LOT THAT IS TO THE WEST.
THAT IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SAME LOT.
AND THIS IS IMMEDIATELY WEST OF THE SITE.
THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION AND PROVIDES THE CASE AS CONSISTENT.
05:31:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES?
05:31:06PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE PROPERTY BEHIND MIDDLETON, THE RAILROAD
TRACKS?
05:31:11PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THIS IS A LITTLE FURTHER.
BECAUSE HERE IS OSBOURNE -- OH, ON THIS SIDE.
05:31:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE FOOTBALL FIELD.
IT IS.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THE BRUSH BACK THERE.
05:31:22PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YES.
ON THIS IT IS HARD TO SEE.
29th STREET ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH, BUT THE --
05:31:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY THOUGH.
05:31:31PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THE TREE CANOPY, BUT IT ACTUALLY GOES
THROUGH.
YES.
05:31:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
05:31:42PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS.
THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT.
YOU CAN COME AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
05:31:51PM >> GOOD EVENING.
EUGENA WILSON, AND I AM THE AGENT FOR MY SON, RAMIK WILSON.
05:31:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD, THE REASON
YOU ARE ASKING FOR THIS?
05:32:03PM >> WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT ONE
SIDE WAS INDUSTRIAL.
AND THE OTHER SIDE WAS RESIDENTIAL.
WE DIDN'T FIND THAT OUT UNTIL LATER.
UNTIL WE TRIED TO SELL THE PROPERTY AND IT WAS A CONFLICT OF
INTEREST.
05:32:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE
PETITIONER?
THANK YOU.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
05:32:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:32:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
05:32:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:32:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL
FILE NUMBER REZ-22-58, ORDINANCE OF FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
VICINITY OF 2806 EAST ELLICOTT STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM
ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50, RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY TO IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:33:06PM >> SECOND.
05:33:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT
THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT WOULD ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT
THAT IS COMPARABLE TO THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING USES
AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE WIDE RANGE OF USES ALLOWED UNDER
THE TRANSITIONAL 24 DESIGNATION.
AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN
THE SURROUNDING AREA.
05:33:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED
BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOLT.
05:33:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
05:33:36PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
05:33:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
05:33:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
05:33:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
05:33:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
05:33:44PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT.
SECOND READING NOVEMBER 24, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
05:34:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, REZ-22-85.
05:34:08PM >> LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THIS NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 8 AT 1242 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE AND 629
AND 635 NORTH 12th STREET.
THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED BY ALEX SCHALER AND THE REQUEST
IS TO REZONE FROM TO PD FROM CD-2 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY STORE FRONT.
I WILL GIVE IT OVER TO EMILY AND THEN I WILL COME BACK TO
GIVE MY REPORT.
THANK YOU.
05:34:45PM >>EMILY PHALEN:
EMILY PHALEN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN THE PLANNING DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SIGNIFICANT TRANSPORTATION RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE IS PRESENT
WITHIN PROXIMITY OF THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG CHANNELSIDE
DRIVE.
THIS SITE IS SERVED BY TWO HART BUS ROUTES AND A TECO STREET
CAR RUNS ADJACENT TO THE SITE ALONG CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
MEMORIAL DOG PARK IS THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY
LOCATED A QUARTER MILE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE SITE
IS LOCATED WITHIN LEVEL "A" EVACUATION ZONE AND COMPLETELY
WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
IT IS RIGHT HERE IN PURPLE.
THE HART ROUTES RUN HERE AND THE STREET CAR IS RUN ALONG
THIS SIDE OF CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
THE SURROUNDING AREA IS URBAN IN CHARACTER AND IS TRENDING
TOWARD A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
TO THE NORTH AND EAST OF THE PARCEL ARE LIGHT COMMERCIAL,
LIGHT AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, AND PUBLIC, SEMI PUBLIC USES.
TO THE WEST ARE MULTIFAMILY USES WHICH IS THE APARTMENT
COMPLEX.
THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE.
AND IT IS REPRESENTED BY THE MAGENTA COLOR, WHICH IS
REGIONAL MIXED USE-100 DESIGNATION.
IN JULY 2002 -- 2022, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED ORDINANCE
NUMBER 2022-118, A PLAN AMENDMENT RECOGNIZING THE SUBJECT
SITE UNDER THE REGIONAL MIXED USE-100 DESIGNATION.
THE APPLICANT IS UTILIZING THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT
PERIPHERY BONUS TO CONTAIN ADDITIONAL INTENSITY ON THE
SUBJECT SITE.
THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES A 7.0 F.A.R. WHICH IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE RMU-100 DESIGNATION THROUGH THE
PERIPHERY BONUS.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES RESIDENTIAL, MIXED USE,
RETAIL, SERVICE COMMERCIAL AND OTHER PEDESTRIAN-ORIENTED
USES ALONG MIXED USE CORRIDORS TO BE ORIENTED TOWARD THE
STREET BY PLACING THEM TOWARD THE FRONT OF PROPERTIES WITH
ENTRIES FRONTING THE STREET.
THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED MULTIPLE ENTRANCES OF NORTH 12th
STREET AND CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
SIDEWALKS ARE PRESENTED ALONG THE ADJACENT RIGHT-OF-WAYS
THAT WILL MAKE SURE SIDEWALKS INTERCONNECT WITH THE EXISTING
AND FUTURE SIDEWALKS ON ADJACENT PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
THE REPORT SUGGESTS MANY POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
OF HOUSING THE CITY'S POPULATION.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON VACANT AND
UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO ENSURE AN ADEQUATE HOUSING SUPPLY IS
REQUIRED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S POPULATION.
THE REQUEST IS ALSO COMPACT WITH THE CITY STRATEGY OF
PROMOTING WALKING AND NEAR EMPLOYMENT, CONCENTRATION,
RESIDENTIAL SERVICES AND AMENITIES.
THE PROPOSED PD IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
ANTICIPATED UNDER THE RMU-100 DESIGNATION AND COMPARABLE AND
COMPATIBLE TO THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:38:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:38:24PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THIS IS FOR REZ-22-85 WHICH, AGAIN, IS ITEM NUMBER 8 ON THE
AGENDA.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM CD-2 TO PD WITH THE
RESIDENTIAL MULTI FAMILY USE AND STOREFRONT, OFFICE AND
COMMERCIAL USES.
SO EMILY HAS FAMILIARIZED YOU WITH THE SITE AND THE
LOCATION.
SO THE SITE IS COMPRISED OF THREE PARCELS.
TWO PARCELS LOCATED HERE ON 12th STREET.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
TO ORIENT YOU, THIS IS 12th STREET.
THIS IS CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
SO TWO SITES THAT ARE LOCATED HERE.
TWO PARCELS AND THEN ONE PARCEL LOCATED HERE ON CHANNELSIDE.
AND THE TOTAL FOR THOSE THREE PARCELS IS 1.5 ACRES.
SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT TWO TOWERS
ON-SITE AND IDENTIFIED ON THE SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU AS TOWER
ONE AND TOWER TWO.
AND TOWER ONE PROPOSES A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 365 FEET
AND PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT 532 UNITS.
AND TOWER TWO HAS A HEIGHT -- A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF
175 FEET, AND THAT IS WHERE THE STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL
OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USE WILL BE LOCATED AND THAT WILL
CONSISTENT OF 8,000 SQUARE FEET OF THOSE USES.
TOTAL BUILDING AREA IS 457,380 SQUARE FEET AND PUTS YOU AT
THE PROPOSED F.A.R. AT THE 6.98 OR 7.0.
SO ACCESS TO THE SITE AS EMILY MENTIONED IS ON 12th STREET.
YOU CAN SEE AN ENTRY ONLY ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE
SITE.
AND AN ENTRY AND EXIT THAT IS LOCATED HERE ON THIS SITE ON
12th STREET.
TRAFFIC WILL FLOW IN AND THEN A GARAGE THAT CONNECTS THE TWO
TOWERS -- THE TWO TOWER SPACES.
AS WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU, THE FUTURE LAND USE
DESIGNATION IS RMU-100, RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE WHICH WILL
ALLOW MAXIMUM F.A.R. AT 3.5 BY RIGHT, BUT THE APPLICANT CAN
REQUEST UP TO 7.0 WHICH IS WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED.
THEY HAVE ENTERED INTO A BONUS AGREEMENT.
ALLOWS THEM TO ACHIEVE THAT 7.0.
AS A BONUS THEY ARE PROVIDING PURSUANT TO 27-140-F-1.
AGREEING TO PAY 10% -- TO PROVIDE 10% OF THEIR RENTAL UNITS
AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
AND THIS IS THEIR BONUS TO ACHIEVE THAT 7.0.
05:41:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
REPEAT THAT AGAIN -- MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:41:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES IS RECOGNIZED.
05:41:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
PIQUED MY INTEREST.
05:41:14PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
ABSOLUTELY, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
THAT IS THE BONUS THEY WILL ACHIEVE.
A LIST OF AMENITIES THAT THE APPLICANT CAN SELECT FROM UNDER
27 AND ONE OF THEM THAT CAN ALLOW TO ACHIEVE A BONUS IS 10%
AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHAT THE APPLICANT IS DOING THERE IS AN
ASSOCIATED BONUS AGREEMENT AND YOU WILL SEE A SEPARATE ITEM
ON IT.
THIS IS THE ZONING MAP THIS IS THE PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY
IDENTIFIED HERE.
THIS IS THE OTHER END, IT IS NOT HIGHLIGHTED IN RED AND THIS
IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ON 12th STREET.
YOU CAN SEE THE CD-2 ZONING.
CD-2.
THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE HERE THE SOUTH END OF THE
GAS WORX PROJECT THAT CAME BEFORE COUNCIL A LONG TIME AGO.
TWIGG STREET IS LOCATED HERE.
I WILL SHOW YOU PICTURES OF THE SITE OF THE EAST SIDE AND TO
THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST.
THE SITE ON THE EAST SIDE IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
LET ME ZOOM IN.
SORRY.
THIS IS THE SITE HERE BEHIND THIS FENCE.
THAT IS ANOTHER VIEW.
THAT IS A CLOSE-UP OF THE SITE.
THE EASTERN SIDE ON CHANNELSIDE.
THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE AND THAT IS ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING
NORTH.
ANOTHER PARCEL.
THIS IS FURTHER NORTH.
THIS IS EAST.
ANOTHER VIEW TO THE EAST OF THE SITE.
AND WE WILL CIRCLE BACK.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH.
SO THIS IS ON CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
AND IF YOU ARE LOOKING SOUTH, THIS IS THE WEST END OF THE
SITE.
THIS IS ON 12th STREET.
AND THIS IS THE SITE TO THE LEFT IN THIS PICTURE.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW.
THE SAME -- THIS IS 12th STREET DOWN TO THE RIGHT AT THE
BOTTOM OF THE PICTURE AND THE SITE ON THE WEST.
SORRY.
WEST OF THE SITE OF 12th STREET AND THIS IS THE VIEW -- THIS
IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE.
TO THE RIGHT OF THE PICTURE AND LOOKING NORTH ON 12th
STREET.
THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FOUND
THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
ORDINANCES AND JUST SEE THE FINDING FROM TRANSPORTATION
RELATED TO THE WAIVER REQUESTED FROM TRANSPORTATION.
THERE IS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ON
THE WAIVER REQUESTED.
THERE IS A WAIVER NUMBER ONE ON THE SITE PLAN WHICH IS TO
REDUCE THE REQUIRED PARKING.
YOU MAY RECALL RECENTLY, COUNCIL, A PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT
AMENDMENT FROM THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP REPRESENTED BY
KAREN KRESS AND BROUGHT FORTH TO REDUCE THE PARKING IN THE
CENTRAL DISTRICT AND CHANNEL DISTRICT.
THAT HAS ADOPTED AND CHANGES THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR
THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
SO THAT WAIVER WILL BE REMOVED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING AND I PROVIDED A REVISED REVISION SHEET FOR YOU AND
IT HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
AFTER THE CODE AMENDMENT, THE REQUIRED PARKING WILL BE 403
SPARESES WHICH IS A DIFFERENCE OF 145 SPACES SO THAT WAIVER
WILL NOT BE REQUIRED.
YES.
YOU HAVE THE REVISED REVISION SHEET.
THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
YES.
05:45:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:45:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE QUICK QUESTION AND PART OF MY MEMORY
AFTER A LONG DAY.
CAN YOU PUT THAT AERIAL MAP BACK UP AND JUST TELL US -- I
FORGOT THE NAME OF THE DOWNTOWN EXCEPTION AREA STOPS.
YEARS AGO, COUNCIL KIND OF GAVE UP AUTHORITY FOR DOWNTOWN SO
STAFF CAN APPROVE DOWNTOWN PROJECTS.
IS THIS ANYWHERE NEAR CLOSE TO THAT BOUNDARY?
05:45:37PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
IS THAT THE PERIPHERY YOU ARE REFERRING TO?
THE CDB PERIPHERY.
05:45:43PM >>BILL CARLSON:
STAFF CAN DO IT WITHOUT COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
HOW FAR AWAY IS THIS FROM THE PROJECT BOUNDARY.
05:45:50PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
IT IS WITHIN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
IT IS -- BECAUSE AS YOU -- THIS INTERSTATE IS ALMOST A
DIVIDING AND ON THE EAST.
FARTHER NORTH.
05:45:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST ADJACENT TO IT.
05:46:01PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YOU ARE TALKING OF THE DDR PROCESS TO APPLY
FOR THE CDB, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
05:46:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FURTHER AWAY, STAFF COULD HAVE APPROVED IT.
05:46:17PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
HERE IS MERIDIAN AVENUE AND CHANNEL DISTRICT
ON THE RIGHT.
IT IS TWO, THREE BLOCKS OVER.
05:46:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
OKAY, THANK YOU.
05:46:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
THANK YOU.
PETITIONER?
05:47:00PM >> TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
AN HONOR TO BE HERE WHAT WE HOPE TO BE A HISTORICALLY SHORT
MEETING.
WE WILL GET THIS POWERPOINT UP.
05:47:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU SAY THAT WITH SUCH A STRAIGHT FACE.
05:47:15PM >> WE'LL SEE.
IT IS NOT OVER YET.
ALL RIGHT.
VeLa DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS THE DEVELOPER.
RICK BENJAMIN HERE.
WITH US IN THE ROOM IS ALEX SCHALER ALONG WITH EXPERTS FROM
KIMLEY-HORN, THE CIVIL ENGINEER.
AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS.
DARK MOSS WHO IS THE ARBORIST.
SMALL WOOD THE ARCHITECT AND THE PROJECT DESIGNER.
I THINK EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT LOCATION.
ONE THING TO NOTE IS 2 STRETCHES BETWEEN 12th STREET AND
CHANNELSIDE.
12th STREET -- SHOCKING WHAT 12th STREET LOOKS LIKE A COUPLE
OF YEARS AGO AND NOW.
THIS ENTIRE BLOCK IS FILLED OUT WITH DEVELOPMENT.
YOU HAVE ONE SITE THAT HAS TOPPED OUT.
THE DANIEL SITE AND THIS PROJECT IS ADDING AN ADDITIONAL
AMOUNT OF DENSITY OVER 530 UNITS AND 12th STREET WILL WALK
UP INTO WHERE THE QUOTE FOUR GREEN FIELDS AS PART OF THE
GAS WORX PROJECT THAT THIS COUNCIL IS FAMILIAR WITH AT THAT
TIME THIS POINT.
TO WORK THROUGH HOW THE DEVELOPMENT WILL WORK.
THE VEHICULAR INGRESS, EGRESS, AND FRONTAGE OF THE SITE WILL
FEEL LIKE ON 12th STREET NOT ON CHANNELSIDE DRIVE DESPITE
BEING A BUSIER STREET.
AN ENTRANCE ON CHANNELSIDE SIDE TO THE EAST THAT YOU CAN
SEE.
THE RETAIL, THE MAIN ENTRANCE, THE LOBBY, WILL BE GEARED UP
ON THE WESTERN SIDE.
ON 12th STREET, 8,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND-FLOOR RETAIL.
AND SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FRONTAL SPACE.
THEY PUT LEASING OFFICE TO THE FRONT.
LEAGUING OFFICE IS NOT THE MOST DYNAMIC OFFICE.
IT IS SET BACK AND THE FRONTAGE USABLE SPACE WILL BE
ALLOCATED TO RETAIL.
LACHONE MENTIONED THE 10% AFFORDABLE.
54 SET-ASIDE UNITS WHICH IS THE SECOND LARGEST SET-ASIDE
THAT HAS BEEN UP TO CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE, SECOND ONLY TO
GASWORX.
27 OF THOSE WILL WILL BE 80% AMI.
AND OTHER 27 WILL BE AT 120% REPRESENT LIMITS WHICH, AGAIN,
MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE FOR THE HOUSING NEEDS OF THIS
COMMUNITY.
WITH THAT PICTURE, I AM GOING TO LEAVE THINGS TO MY
COLLEAGUE, ALEX.
05:49:36PM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE FOR THE RECORD.
AS TYLER SHOWED THE 2-D LAYOUT OF THE SITE IMPORTANT TO SHOW
THESE RENDERINGS.
TOWER TWO FRONTING CHANNELSIDE.
TOWER ONE ALONG NORTH 12th STREET.
YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING GARAGE IS VERY WELL SCREENED AS
SHOWN IN THIS RENDERING.
THE AMENITY DECK IS SHOWN THERE AS WELL.
WE ARE GRATEFUL TO HAVE STAFF'S REPORT ON THIS APPLICATION.
PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THIS CONSISTENT AS WELL AS ALL OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA REVIEWING DEPTHS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
TRANSPORTATION AND WE WILL GO INTO THAT INTO THE COUPLE OF
SLIDES AS WE RUN THROUGH THE WAIVERS.
LACHONE MENTIONED THE PARKING WAIVER BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING.
WE HAVE THREE REMAINING WAIVERS, LOADING WAIVER AND
SETBACKS.
THE LOADING WAIVER WE USUALLY COME BEFORE TWO WAIVERS WITH
RESPECT TO LOADING AND TO ALLOW LOADING TO OCCUR IN ONE
CONTINUOUS MANEUVER.
THE TRUCK WILL PULL IN THE PROPERTY SIDE AND PULL BACK INTO
THE LOADING ZONE.
WE REQUEST A WAIVER INTO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AS WELL, THAT IS
NOT IN THIS APPLICATION.
THE RED DASHED LINE IS CIRCULATION AND ALL WILL BE ON-SITE
FOR LOADING.
GREEN SPACE FOR MULTIFAMILY TO PROVIDE 30%.
WE ARE PROPOSING TO REDUCE THAT TO 11.
MOST HIGH-DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS HAVE CIRCULATION INTERNAL TO
THE BUILDING INTO THE PARKING GARAGE AND DOES NOT REQUIRE
GREEN SPACE.
AND AS YOU SEE WE HAVE A NORTHERN LOOP EXTERNAL AND REQUIRES
GREEN SPACE.
ALTHOUGH THAT ISN'T COUNTED IN THE 11% WE ARE PROVIDING,
THAT IS 1400 SQUARE FEET WITH THE -- WITH APPROXIMATELY 3100
OR 3200 SQUARE FEET OF MULTIFAMILY GREEN SPACE AND BRINGS
THE TOTAL TO 4600 WHICH IS JUST BELOWED THAT REQUIRED
APPROXIMATELY 5,000 SQUARE FEET WE WOULD NEED FOR THE SITE.
I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE IN DISCUSSING THIS AND LOOKING THROUGH
THE GREEN SPACE.
AS YOU KNOW, CHANNELSIDE IS INHERENTLY IMPERVIOUS AND THE
CHANNELSIDE CRA HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF TAKING THESE PUBLIC
SPACES AND CREATING GREEN SPACE SO THE COMMUNITY HAS
GATHERING AREAS OF GREEN SPACE EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT
INDIVIDUALLY ON -- INDIVIDUALLY ON INDIVIDUAL PARCELS.
THIS IS A DESIGN FOR RENOVATIONS AND THE PROPOSED PARK, THE
RV LOT, THE WAY THE CRA IS REFERRING TO IT.
THE PLANNING WILL BE UNDER WAY SOON WITH CONSTRUCTION NEXT
YEAR.
THE LAST WAIVER IS THE SETBACK WAIVER.
THE CHANNEL DISTRICT IS UNIQUE THAT THE FRONT YARDS ARE
BASED OFF OF THE STREET OF WHICH THEY ARE LOCATED.
FRONTAGE ALONG 12th STREET AND CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THEY ARE RELATIVELY LOW SETBACKS
AND GIVEN THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF OUR BUILDING, I WILL NOT
BORE YOU WITH THE CALCULATIONS AND WE HAVE THEM LISTED ON
THE SCREEN.
REQUIRED TO HAVE 24.3 TO 29.3 SETBACK AND NORTH 12th STREET
REDUCING FROM 39 FEET TO 25.5 FEET SHOWING THERE.
AND URBAN DESIGN SUPPORTS THE REQUEST.
WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE IS A DIRECT
APPLICATION OF THE CODE RESULTS IN A DESIGN THAT ISN'T
NECESSARILY THE BEST PLANNING PRINCIPLES.
STRICT ADHERENCE THE EASTERN AND WESTERN SETBACKS WITH TALL
BUILDING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND GOOD PRINCIPLES ARE REDUCED SETBACKS AND MOVING THE
BUILDING CLOSER TO THE ROAD NORTH 12th STREET AND
CHANNELSIDE DRIVE THAT WE CAN ACTIVATE THOSE CORRIDORS AND
FOSTER PEDESTRIAN ENGAGEMENT ALONG THE GROUND LEVEL.
WITH THAT TO RICK BENJAMIN, VeLa PARTNERS AND WHY THEY ARE
INTERESTED IN TAMPA.
05:53:29PM >> I AM NICK BENJAMIN WITH VeLa DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN TALK QUITE AS FAST AS ALEX AND TYLER
BUT I WILL DO MY BEST.
EXCITED TO TALK OF THIS PROCESS.
OUR PHILOSOPHY AT VeLa IS THAT YOU CAN BUILD LUXURY HOUSING
THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS AND MAKE IT ATTAINABLE.
DEVELOP BEST-IN-CLASS AMENITIES AND MAKE ADDITION TO
SKYLINES THAT WE ARE PROUD OF THAT THE COMMUNITY IS PROUD OF
AND YOU CAN PROVIDE WORK FORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TO IT
IN TAMPA.
SO MUCH ENERGY FROM A DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE.
A GROWTH PERSPECTIVE.
THE INVESTMENTS THAT ALREADY HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE WATER
STREET PROJECT BY SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE HERE TODAY
AND THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, THE POTENTIAL OF THE GAS WORX
PROJECT TO THE NORTH.
WE ARE VERY EAGER TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF THE
COMMUNITY AND INVEST IN IT.
AND HAPPY -- WE HAVE SOME OTHER SPEAKERS HERE, BUT HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ONCE THEY ARE DONE AND THANKS AGAIN FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY.
05:54:38PM >> I FORGOT TO MENTION WE HAVE FIVE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT
LETTERS THAT CAME IN A BIT AFTER THE DEADLINE.
SO I HAVE TEN COPIES FOR YOU, MARTY.
THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
05:54:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
I JUST HAVE ONE.
FRONTING CHANNELSIDE, TOWER TWO.
ONLY NINE FOOT TO THE SIDEWALK.
WHAT IS THE WIDEST WIDTH ON THE SIDEWALK OR THE FRONTAGE TO
THE SIDEWALK.
05:55:16PM >> 15 FEET.
IN CASES THERE FOLLOW-UP HAVE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER TO COME AND
DISCUSS THE FOOTPRINT.
05:55:24PM >> ARI CENTRON.
200 FRANKLIN.
WE MOVED OFFICES.
05:55:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
TOWER TWO, FRONTING ON CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
I SEE DOWN THERE THE VERY SOUTH END, NINE FOOT.
THE FRONT IS TO THE SIDEWALK.
WHERE IS THE REST OF THE --
05:55:49PM >> I HAVE A -- BEAR WITH ME FOR TWO SECONDS.
SO PER CODE, A STREETSCAPE MINIMUM.
AT ITS WIDEST 15-FEET ACTIVATION ALONG CHANNELSIDE AND NINE
FEET AT ITS MINIMUM.
05:56:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I SEE THAT -- I DIDN'T MEAN -- I SAW THAT.
BUT THAT IS THE REASON WHY.
I AM GOING TO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
SO LET'S HOPE IT STAYS THAT WAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:56:31PM >> THAT IS OUR INTENT.
THANK YOU.
05:56:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:56:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LEGAL CAN CUT ME OFF IF I CAN'T ASK THIS
QUESTION.
THE WAY IT LOOKS ONE TOWER IS SHORTER THAN THE OTHER.
I WONDER WHY.
IS IT BECAUSE OF CODE OR FAA OR WHAT THAT BOTH OF THEM ARE
NOT HIGH.
AND HOW FAR ARE YOU FROM THE FAA GUIDELINES?
WOULD FAA ALLOWED YOU TO GO HIGHER?
05:56:58PM >> THE SECOND TOWER COULD BE HIGHER, BUT THIS PROGRAM IS
WHAT ALLOWS THE TWO BUILDINGS TO COEXIST BEST FROM A VIEW
AND DESIGN PERSPECTIVE AND ALLOWS US TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT
AMENITY SPACE BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM.
AND ALSO WHAT MATCHES THE BUILDABLE F.A.R.
THE SHORTER TOWER VERSUS THE LARGER TOWER MAXES OUT WHAT WE
CAN BUILD ON THE SITE.
05:57:19PM >>BILL CARLSON:
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
05:57:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM
COUNCIL?
ANYONE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO THIS?
ALL YOURS.
05:57:39PM >> HELLO, KEN SALTENBERG, E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
TWO BLOCKS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT HERE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS IS A WONDERFUL PROJECT FOR THE
CHANNEL DISTRICT IN A LOT OF WAYS AND THE FIRST ONE THAT I
KNOW OF THAT HAS BEEN BUILT IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT THAT
ADDRESSES THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUE AND RESERVES A SUBSTANTIAL
AMOUNT OF UNITS FOR WORK FORCE HOUSING.
SOMETHING TO BE ENCOURAGED -- I HAVE IDEA TO FURTHER
ENCOURAGE THAT WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT LATER BUT HERE TO
TALK OF THIS PROJECT.
THE DESIGN ELEMENTS AND WHAT THESE FOLKS WANT TO DO IS
SOMETHING WE CERTAINLY WANT IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
THANK YOU.
05:58:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:58:19PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE, BUT FOR THE RECORD TELL
THE PUBLIC A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR EXPERIENCE.
05:58:24PM >> MY COMPANY IS KATIE KELLER.
WE HAVE A SISTER COMPANY MERCURY ADVISORS AND WE HAVE BEEN
DEVELOPING IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FOR NOW THE PAST 20
YEARS.
05:58:36PM >> HI, MY NAME IS MADISON BAPTISTE.
I AM CURRENTLY A STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
THIS YEAR I AM A JUNIOR AND MY FIRST YEAR HAVING TO LIVE OFF
CAMPUS.
EACH YEAR SINCE I STARTED AT THE SCHOOL, MORE AND MORE
FRESHMEN HAVE BEEN COMING EACH YEAR SO MAKES THE HOUSING
EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE ON CAMPUS FORCING MOST UPPERCLASSMEN
MOVE OFF IN MY CASE HAPPENED.
UNFORTUNATELY MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE CLOSE TO THE
SCHOOL AND IN DOWNTOWN ARE JUST WAY OVERPRICED FOR MOST
PEOPLE MY AGE.
AND I AM FORCED TO HAVE TO COMMUTE TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY
MULTIPLE TIMES, WHETHER IT BE MY WORK COURSES OR MY
PART-TIME JOB OR IN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ON CAMPUS THAT I
HAVE TO COMMUTE TO SCHOOL VERY LATE AT NIGHT MULTIPLE TIMES
A WEEK FOR MEETINGS.
I THINK THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE A GREAT OPTION FOR STUDENTS
BEING MORE AFFORDABLE AND BEING CLOSE TO THE CAMPUS BECAUSE
GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO POSSIBLY WORK OR -- WALK OR
TAKE PUBLIC TRANSIT AND A MUCH BETTER OPTION AND RELIEVE
SOME STUDENTS AND FAMILY OF FINANCIAL STRESS.
THANK YOU.
05:59:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WHAT YEAR ARE YOU.
05:59:43PM >> I AM A JUNIOR THIS YEAR.
05:59:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
TOO BAD THIS WON'T BE AROUND WHEN YOU
GRADUATE.
05:59:48PM >> I WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO BENEFIT FROM IT.
05:59:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WHILE YOU ARE STILL IN SCHOOL.
05:59:52PM >> THANK YOU.
05:59:55PM >> HOW IS IT GOING.
MY NAME IS ROBERT EVANS.
I WORK AT THE CRUNCH DOWN IN THE CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT.
WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED TO ME, I THINK THIS WILL BE AN
AWESOME OPPORTUNITY OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF THE LARGE
MULTIFAMILY HOMES BEING IN THIS UNIT AND INFLUX OF
BUSINESSES AROUND THE SURROUNDING AREA SUCH AS MY OWN
BUSINESS AND I WORK BASED OFF OF THE PEOPLE THAT SIGN UP FOR
A GYM.
SO OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING ELSE IN THAT AREA WILL BENEFIT FROM
IT.
I THINK OBVIOUSLY BRINGING MORE PEOPLE TO THAT AREA IS GREAT
JUST FOR EVERYBODY IN THAT AREA.
I KNOW A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES INCLUDING POKE COMPANIES.
A COUPLE OF BARS IN THE AREA.
MANY GROCERY STORES.
SO OBVIOUSLY JUST ANOTHER UNIT COMING THAT IS ALONG THE
POINT OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I MOVED OUT TO TAMPA HAVING GARAGE WAIT FROM COLLEGE MYSELF.
AND -- GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE MYSELF.
AND THE PRICE OF LIVING WENT UP AND PIGGYBACKING ON HER
POINT.
COLLEGE STUDENTS TOO IG TO LIVE IN THIS AREA.
YOUNG PROFESSIONALS ARE MOVING TO THIS AREA.
AND I THINK IT IS GREAT.
THE DENSITY OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND
EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK THAT IS AWESOME.
06:01:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
ANYONE ONLINE?
06:01:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
06:01:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
10%.
TRUST AND VERIFY.
EVERYBODY KNOWS I AM A BIG PROPONENT OF HOUSING.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM CLEAR THAT IT IS GOING TO BE THE
SECOND TIME WE POSSIBLY HAVE DONE THIS, CORRECT?
06:02:00PM >> CORRECT.
06:02:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HOW ARE WE SECURING AND MAKING SURE THA
PERSON IS IN COMPLIANCE.
I WANT TO KNOW.
MISS WELLS?
06:02:15PM >>CATE WELLS:
IF I MAY, CATE WELLS FOR THE RECORD.
THE BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT IF YOU APPROVE THE REZONING
TONIGHT, THE BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT WILL BE ON YOUR
AGENDA FOR APPROVAL AT SECOND READING.
IT SETS OUT ALL THE CONDITIONS THAT ENSURE THAT THE 54 UNITS
THAT ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT
THEY REMAIN AFFORDABLE FOR A PERIOD OF 30 YEARS.
CERTAIN DOCUMENTS THAT WILL BE RECORDED AND BE OF TITLE.
IF THE OWNERSHIP OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE TO CHANGE, THEY
WILL BE ON NOTICE OF THAT REQUIREMENT.
THERE ARE ANNUAL REPORTING REQUIREMENTS BACK TO HOUSING AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF WITH HCD TO ALSO INSPECT
AND ENSURE THAT THE UNITS ARE COMPLYING WITH THE TERMS OF
THE BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT.
SO A PRETTY LENGTHY AGREEMENT.
IT IS ONE THAT WE WORKED ON OVER THE YEARS AND CONTINUED TO
IMPROVE UPON BASICALLY TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE GOT COMPLIANCE
WITH THOSE TERMS.
06:03:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
I WILL ASK BECAUSE THE PUBLIC IS LISTENING.
A SITUATION HERE IN TAMPA.
A LOT OF UNITS OVER THERE, BUT WE ARE AT A STARTING POINT
AND I AM HAPPY THAT THE DEVELOPER IS TRYING TO SEE WHAT
TAMPA IS TRYING TO DO.
I AM GRACIOUS TO THAT.
I WISH THERE WERE MORE, BUT IT IS A START.
06:03:34PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
ABSOLUTELY, COUNCIL.
IN ADDITION, THERE IS AN ADDITION ON THE SITE PLAN, A NOTE
ON THE SITE PLAN AND MAKES THE NOTATION OF THE BONUS
AGREEMENT AND THE REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE IT.
06:03:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
YOU ARE WELCOME.
WE HAVE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:04:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT ON ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
VICINITY OF 1242 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE AND 629 AND 635 NORTH
12th STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, CD CHANNEL DISTRICT 2
TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL,
STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE.
STAFF REPORTS FINDS IT CONSISTENT.
I FIND IT IN COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE GOALS, OBJECTIVES
AND POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SPECIFICALLY LAND
USE POLICIES 8.14.1 AND 8.14.2, AS WELL AS NEW HOUSING ON
VACANT AND UNDER UTILIZED LAND AND THAT IS CONTRIBUTE WITH
LAND USE POLICY 9.2.1 AND HOUSING POLICIES 1.3.1, 1.3.3 AND
1.3.4.
COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 27-136 AS
WELL AS THE REVISED OR THE REVISION SHEET THAT WE HAVE
ATTACHED TO THIS.
ALSO AS MENTIONED BY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS, THE 10% AND WHAT
WE ARE NOW CALLING ATTAINABLE HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING
WHERE WE KNOW THE DEMAND.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY ALL OVER
THE CITY AND IN THE PLACES THAT ARE PROSPERING SO THIS GIVES
THAT OPPORTUNITY.
THAT IS MY MOTION.
AND ALSO REMEMBER, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION AFTER THIS.
06:05:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
06:05:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I ADDED THE REVISION SHEET.
06:05:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WILL COME BACK FOR ADOPTION SECOND READING.
06:05:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:05:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
06:05:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
06:05:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
06:05:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
06:05:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
06:05:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
06:06:00PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION NOVEMBER 3, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
06:06:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION AS WELL.
AT SECOND READING.
OKAY.
SORRY.
06:06:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, REZ-22-94.
06:06:20PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
COUNCIL, ITEM NUMBER 11 IS REZ-22-94 FOR THE PROPERTY
LOCATED 2211 NORTH 65th STREET.
THE APPLICANT IS JOSE SAAVEDRA, AND THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE
THE PROPERTY FROM RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO IG,
INDUSTRIAL GENERAL AND TURN IT OVER TO EMILY AND GIVE HER
PRESENTATION.
AND THEN I WILL COME BACK AND GIVE MY PRESENTATION.
06:07:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, PLEASE.
06:07:08PM >>EMILY PHALEN:
EMILY PHALEN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL PLANNING
DISTRICT AND EAST SIDE COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS LOCATED 1.18 MILES WEST OF THE
SUBJECT SITE AT EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE AND NORTH 50th STREET.
THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY 0.33 MILES NORTHEAST OF
THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN LEVEL D
EVACUATION ZONE.
THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT HERE.
OUTLINED IN PURPLE.
LOCATED SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF EAST BROADWAY AVENUE
AND NORTH 65th STREET.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS ALSO SOUTH OF EAST COLUMBUS AVENUE,
WHICH IS A TRANSIT CORRIDOR.
THE SURROUNDING AREA HAS COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES
ALONG EAST BROADWAY AND EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
TO THE SOUTH AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ARE RESIDENTIAL
USES AND VACANT LAND.
THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE OUTLINED IN THE REDDISH COLOR THAT
IS TRANSITIONAL USE-24 DESIGNATION AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS
SURROUNDED BY TRANSITIONAL USE-24.
FURTHER TO THE EAST AND ALSO OVER HERE IN THE WEST THAT
IS HI, LAND USE DESIGNATION.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND
NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
PARCELS TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ARE ZONED FOR
COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES.
WHILE THERE ARE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNITS TO THE
NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE PARCEL, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
REQUIRES COMMERCIAL USES TO BE BUFFERED FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROMOTES COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND
REDEVELOPMENT TO SUSTAIN STABLE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ENCOURAGE
THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC HEALTH OF THE CITY AND DISCOURAGES
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT NEAR INDUSTRIALLY ZONED PARCELS.
GIVEN THE PRESENCE.
INDUSTRIAL GENERAL AND COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING TO THE
EAST AND NORTH OF THE CAN SUBJECT SITE, THE PROPOSED
INDUSTRIAL GENERAL ZONING SUPPORTS POLICY DIRECTION BY
DISCOURAGING THE POTENTIAL OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THE REQUEST WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT IS
ECONOMICALLY SOUND BY ENCOURAGING INFILL DEVELOPMENT ON
VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED PARCELS.
DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF INDUSTRIAL GENERAL PARCELS IN THE
IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING AREA, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS
THE REQUEST COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING
AREA AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
ANTICIPATED UNDER TRANSITIONAL USE-24.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
06:09:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
06:10:02PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AND I HAVE THE ZONING AERIAL FOR THERE ARE PROPERTY.
SO IS THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED HERE IN RED.
THIS IS 65th STREET.
AND JUST TO ORIENT YOU ON THIS MAP, THIS IS BROADWAY IN 66th
STREET AND THE SITE THAT IS LOCATED HERE IN THE RED.
AND THAT SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
IT HAS A LOT AREA 5163 SQUARE FEET.
AS YOU ARE AWARE, THIS AREA, WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS
PART OF -- OF THE CITY, WHEN YOU ARE ALONG BROADWAY AND
COLUMBUS EAST, YOU HAVE THAT MIXTURE OF INDUSTRIAL USES.
YOU HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL THAT IS THERE.
AND YOU EVEN HAVE SOME INDUSTRIAL USES THAT HAVE
HISTORICALLY BEEN USED ON RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY.
SO IN THE CASE OF WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
YOU SEE THE MAJORITY OF THE AREA IS ZONED RS-50.
AS YOU ARE ALONG THE CORRIDOR ALONG BROADWAY.
YOUR COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND INDUSTRIAL GENERAL ZONING
DISTRICTS.
AND THEN HERE ARE PICTURE CAN OF THE SITE.
THAT IS THE SITE CURRENTLY.
THIS IS ALSO ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE THAT I WENT OUT THE
OTHER DAY AND TOOK IT.
THIS IS SOUTH OF THE SITE.
SO THIS IS ADJACENT.
ONE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE THAT IS ON THAT BLOCK.
THIS IS THE VIEW.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH.
AND THAT IS ON 65th STREET.
THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE, SO THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET.
THIS IS NORTHWEST, SO IS THE PICTURE I JUST SHOWED YOU WAS
HERE AND THIS IS THE SITE THAT IS ON THE RIGHT OF THE
PICTURE OFF THE SCREEN.
AND THEN THIS IS FURTHER NORTH AS YOU ARE HEADED UP TOWARD
BROADWAY.
THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
REQUEST AND FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT.
AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL.
06:12:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK?
THANK YOU.
06:12:21PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU.
06:12:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PETITIONER.
06:12:24PM >> I AM JOSE SAAVEDRA.
I BUY THE PROPERTY FOR PARKING THE TRUCK -- I HAVE A SMALL
BUSINESS THAT DOES INSTALLATIONS.
WE CAN'T PARK TRUCKS AT MY HOUSE WITH THE SIGN JOSE
APPLIANCES.
SO WE USE IT JUST FOR PARKING.
AND WHATEVER I HAVE TO DO THERE.
06:12:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR --
06:12:58PM >> YEAH, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY.
SHE SAID EVERYTHING.
06:13:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE
PETITIONER?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:13:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT ABOUT THE AUDIENCE?
ARE THEY FOR --
06:13:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WAS GOING TO GET US FIRST.
06:13:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE AUDIENCE.
06:13:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOMENTO.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO --
06:13:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:13:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:13:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
06:13:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
WHO DO WE HAVE?
WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:13:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
FILE NUMBER REZ-22-94, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
2211 NORTH 65th STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RS-50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY TO IG,
INDUSTRIAL GENERAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:14:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
06:14:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT WILL ALLOW FOR
DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMPARABLE TO THE SURROUNDING USES AND
IS CONSISTENT WITH THE WIDE RANGE OF USES ALLOWED UNDER THE
TRANSITIONAL USE-24 DESIGNATION.
THE PROPOSED ZONING CATEGORY IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE
WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE SURROUNDING
AREA.
06:14:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
06:14:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:14:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
06:14:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
06:14:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
06:14:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
06:14:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
06:14:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
06:14:43PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY SECOND READING -- WITH
VIERA BEING ABSENT.
SECOND A READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD NOVEMBER 3, 2022
AT 9:30 A.M.
06:14:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
06:14:55PM >> THANK YOU.
06:14:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR A LONG NIGHT.
LET'S GO TO COMMISSIONERS' REPORTS.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:15:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NONE, THANK YOU.
06:15:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, SIR, THANK YOU.
06:15:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN
2020, 106,515 CRIMES OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WERE REPORTED TO
FLORIDA LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES RESULTING IN -- IN 63,217
ARRESTS.
ADVOCATES CREATED 150,799 TAILORED SAFETY PLANS AND PROVIDED
TO HE TALL OF 191,451 HOURS OF ADVOCACY AND COUNSELING
SERVICES AND RECEIVED 73,221 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOTLINE OF
INDIVIDUALS SEEKING EMERGENCY SERVICES, INFORMATION AND
EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE.
MANY MORE SURVIVORS ARE NOT REPORTING THEIR ABUSERS TO THE
POLICE OR ACCESSING SERVICES AT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SERVICES
DUE TO REASONS SUCH AS SHAME, FEAR OR BEING PREVENTED DOING
SO BY THEIR ABUSERS.
FOR THIS REASON, WE MAY NEVER KNOW THE TRUE EXTENT OF ABUSE
IN OUR COUNTRY AND STATE.
OCTOBER IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH AND I WOULD
LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRING A DRAFT RESOLUTION REGARDING
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ON OCTOBER 20, 2022.
06:16:23PM >> SECOND.
06:16:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
THANK YOU.
06:16:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S IT.
06:16:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:16:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NOTHING.
06:16:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:16:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
06:16:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. SHELBY.
06:16:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU RAISED EARLIER THE
QUESTION OF RULES OF PROCEDURE.
I AM WONDERING, COUNCIL IN THE PAST HAD MEETINGS IN THE
MASCOT AND ASSIST CITY IN THE CONVENIENT TIME EITHER BEFORE
A MEETING OR ON A SEPARATE DAY.
REALLY HARD TO PLAN THESE THINGS.
THE QUESTION IS -- OR DOING IT DURING A MEETING.
BUT THE ADVANTAGE OF DOING IT THE OTHER WAY IT IS MORE
INFORMAL.
THROUGH A NOTICED PUBLIC MEETING BUT JUST NOT TELEVISED AND
COUNCIL CAN TALK WITHOUT FACING FORWARD.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE CHAIR'S DIRECTION OR WHAT IS
COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IN HOW WE ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT MR.
CHAIRMAN WISHES TO HAVE ADDRESSED AND THE CHANGES THAT NEED
TO BE MADE?
06:17:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:17:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD SUGGEST -- I DON'T THINK A LONG
DISCUSSION BUT 8:30 BEFORE OUR NEXT 9 A.M. MEETING OR NEXT
REGULAR MEETING.
AND PERHAPS WE DO IT DOWNSTAIRS IN THE -- IN THE MASCOT
ROOM.
AND JUST DISCUSS THE -- THE ORDER OF BUSINESS SO WE CAN
SPEED THINGS ALONG.
I KNOW WE SPENT THREE AND A HALF HOURS THIS MORNING BEFORE
WE REALLY GOT INTO THE AGENDA.
AND I MEAN, THAT -- THAT IS FAIR ENOUGH.
WE DON'T HAVE TO SET A SPECIAL CALL AND COME IN ON A SPECIAL
DAY.
WE ARE ALREADY HERE OR 8:15 IF IT IS NECESSARY.
IT SHOULDN'T BE A LENGTHY DISCUSSION.
I AM UP AT 5:00 IN THE MORNING.
WE CAN DO 5:30.
06:18:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE LUCKY I'M HERE AT 9:00.
[LAUGHTER]
06:18:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
FORGIVE ME IF I AM WRONG, I THOUGHT THIS WAS
OUR HOUSE.
I THOUGHT -- THOUGHT THIS WAS OUR HOUSE.
I FEEL WE HAVE FAR TOO LONG OF DISCUSSIONS ON THINGS THAT
SHOULD ONLY TAKE 15 MINUTES.
BUT THAT IS JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION.
06:18:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
8:30 IN THE MASCOT BEFORE THE REGULAR
COUNCIL MEETING.
WE WILL BE HERE ALREADY.
06:18:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HALF HOUR WITH THIS COUNCIL?
I GUESS WE CAN DO IT.
I WILL DO WHATEVER -- WHATEVER COUNCIL WISHES.
THING IS, CLEARLY, THERE ARE THINGS THAT I AM SURE
COUNCILMEMBERS WANT TO ADDRESS AND CERTAINLY THE CHAIR WANTS
TO BE ABLE TO HAVE EFFICIENTLY RUN MEETINGS AND THERE ARE
CHANGES -- FOR INSTANCE, INTO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE WILL GO
WITH GUIDELINES.
AND THERE IS A DETERMINATION OF WHETHER YOU WANT TO KEEP
EVEN REMOTELY WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE IT LOOKS
LIKE AND THE SAME PEOPLE LATELY.
AND THERE IS A RETURN TO NORMALCY.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE STAFFED TO RUN THESE MEETINGS
VIRTUALLY AND COUNCIL'S PLEASURE HOW YOU WANT TO CONTINUE.
BUT THAT -- TOOK ME MORE THAN A HALF HOUR TO SAY THAT.
06:19:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:19:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
WHY ARE WE MEETING?
I AM CONFUSED.
06:19:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T KNOW EITHER.
06:19:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ME EITHER.
06:19:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LET'S SEND THIS CONVERSATION -- WE ARE
SPENDING TOO MUCH DAMN TIME ON IT NOW.
LET'S HAVE THIS CONVERSATION NOW.
INSTEAD OF HAVING MEETING AFTER A MEETING.
06:19:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING TO ADDRESS
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
PRESENTLY, WE SCHEDULE HEARINGS AT 9:30 IN THE MORNING AND
PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER AND ON THE AGENDA.
FOR YEARS, WE HAVE TAKEN THOSE SOME TIME AFTER 9:30.
THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN GETTING THEM NOT ONLY PAST LUNCH BUT
3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON AND I HAVE BEEN HEARING FEEDBACK.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO TALK TO COUNCILMEMBERS.
THEY TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE, ME BEING ONE OF THEM.
06:20:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. SHELBY, SINCE YOU ADDRESSED ME ON THAT.
IF YOU RECALL WE CHANGE IT TO HAVE ALL THESE COMMENDATION ON
A SPECIAL DAY AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THESE FOUR OR FIVE
COMMENDATIONS ARE COMING BACK DURING REGULAR COUNCIL SEATING
THAT IS TAKING TWO HOURS TO DO VERSUS WHEN WE CHANGED IT
ORIGINALLY.
WHEN I WAS A CHAIRMAN.
MR. MANISCALCO CHANGED IT.
ALL THAT STUFF.
ON THAT OFF DAY OF TUESDAY AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THAT.
NOW, YEAH, BRING IN ALL THE SPECIAL TURKEYS AND BRING ALL
THIS OTHER STUFF BACK AND THESE OTHER THINGS.
YEAH, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A LONG COUNCIL MEETING AND
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SIT THERE AND WAIT WHICH I DON'T KNOW
WHY YOU SCHEDULE A 9:30 MEETING OPENING HEARINGS WHEN YOU
KNOW DARN WELL WE NEVER OPEN THINGS AT 9:30 EVER.
LIKE REALLY -- WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
IT NEEDS TO BE TWO DAYS BECAUSE NO WAY IN THE WORLD CAN WE
DO HEARINGS AT 9:30.
IT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN UNLESS YOU GO BACK THEWAY IT WAS
AND WE HAVE NOTHING AND YOU START THOSE HEARINGS AT 9:30.
06:21:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I THINK ONCE YOU REALIZE THE PROBLEM, THE
PROBLEM WILL GET BETTER.
I BELIEVE THAT.
BY THE TIME WE GET TO -- WE SPEND HALF A DAY DISCUSSING
SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING WHAT ARE THEY TALKING
ABOUT.
NOT NOBODY'S FAULT.
DON'T -- I AM AS GUILTY AS ANYBODY ELSE, BUT I DON'T THINK I
WANT TO COME IN FOR HALF AN HOUR OR AN HOUR ON A WEDNESDAY
OR BEFORE TO COME BACK TO THIS SAME MEETING.
WE ARE -- IF SOMEBODY BRINGS A QUESTION, GOING TO DISCUSS
WHAT WE DISCUSSED BACK UPSTAIRS AGAIN.
GUARANTEE THAT.
JUST HUMAN NATURE.
06:22:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.
THIS MORNING LISTENING TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE FELT LIKE WE HAD TO RESPOND.
AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO HAVE ONE OF
OUR AIDES TO GRAB THOSE PEOPLE SO WE ARE NOT HAVING TO
RESPOND TO THE DAIS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO.
06:22:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT'S EXACTLY IT.
WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO.
06:22:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE WALK AWAY FROM THAT.
AN AIDE -- MAYBE THEY ROTATED TO GRAB THAT PERSON AND
ADDRESS IT SO WE DIDN'T DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT FROM HERE.
06:22:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE PROBLEM IS SOMEBODY WILL SPEAK AND
WANT TO SEE ON TELEVISION BECAUSE SOMEBODY ASKED THEM TO
COME AND DO SOMETHING.
YOU WEREN'T THERE.
I WAS.
THEY PULLED ME ASIDE.
06:22:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I JUST SAY IF THE CHAIR FEELS THAT WE --
THAT HE HAS ITEMS THAT WE SHOULD DISCUSS, I AM HAPPY TO MEET
WHENEVER HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT.
I WOULD ASK THAT AN AGENDA BE PRESENTED IN ADVANCE SO WE
KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
06:22:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PICK A DATE AND A TIME.
06:23:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LET'S TABLE THIS THING.
[INAUDIBLE]
06:23:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THEY BELIEVE YOU ARE AN AIRLINE AND
ALWAYS LATE, THAT'S ALL.
06:23:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I DON'T KNOW, IS EVERYBODY LEAVING?
ALL I NEED IS THREE HERE.
THE REST CAN GO.
06:23:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
06:23:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OCTOBER IS ITALIAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH AND WE HONOR THE
ACHIEVEMENTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF ITALIAN IMMIGRANTS.
THIS WEEKEND, THE ITALIAN CLUB WILL CELEBRATE WITH FOOD,
MUSIC AND MARKET AND WILL OFFER THE CLUB -- TOURS OF CLUB
BUILT IN 1918 BY THE SAME ARCHITECTS THAT BUILT CITY HALL
THREE YEARS EARLIER.
SO, PLEASE, COME AND SEE THE EVENTS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE
PUBLIC STARTING TOMORROW AT WWW.ITALIAN/CLUB.ORG.
I MOTION TO PRESENT COMMENDATION TO THE ITALIAN CLUB IN
CELEBRATION --
06:24:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.
06:24:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
06:24:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THE ITALIAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH TO BE
PRESENTED OFF-SITE THIS WEEKEND -- THIS WEEKEND'S
CELEBRATION.
06:24:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN SIT ROW AND
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
06:24:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT TIME IS THE CELEBRATION?
06:24:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THREE DIFFERENT DAYS.
06:24:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOW I KNOW IT IS ITALIAN.
06:24:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SICILIAN.
FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
06:24:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN CITRO AND SECOND BY
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED.
06:24:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
I HAVE A REQUEST.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE TWO COUNCILMEMBERS GOING TO THE FRA
NEXT THURSDAY, AND IT IS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION.
FLORIDA REDEVELOPMENT -- THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PHYSICAL
QUORUM HERE THURSDAY.
06:25:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WILL BE HERE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I AM NOT GOING TO DRIVE BACK --
06:25:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AM NOT ASKING YOU TOO.
I AM ASKING THE OTHER FIVE.
THE OTHER FIVE.
AT LEAST I CAN HAVE FOUR HERE.
06:25:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM COMING BACK.
06:25:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM GLAD YOU MENTIONED IT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS FLORIDA RETIREMENT ASSOCIATION.
06:25:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AM JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE WILL HAVE
A PHYSICAL QUORUM HERE.
06:25:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL BE HERE.
TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE.
06:25:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
06:25:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.


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