TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 6, 2022
5:01 P.M.
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05:06:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE EVENING SESSION FOR OCTOBER 6, 2022 IS
05:06:43PM IN SESSION.
05:06:43PM ROLL CALL.
05:06:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:06:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:06:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
05:06:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:06:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
05:06:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
05:06:57PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:07:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DOCK, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE ARE
05:07:03PM BRIEFLY GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE AGENDA REVIEW BUT LOOKS
05:07:07PM LIKE WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF CHANGES.
05:07:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:07:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:07:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BEFORE YOU DO THAT.
05:07:16PM IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND INTRODUCING OUR NEW CLERK.
05:07:18PM I CAN TELL YOU SHE WAS AMAZING YESTERDAY.
05:07:20PM WE HAD A SITUATION HERE.
05:07:21PM IT WAS LATE WITH SOME CONSTITUENTS AND WAS ABLE TO GET HELP, AND
05:07:27PM SHE SPEAKS SPANISH, AND WE NEEDED SOMEBODY LAST NIGHT AND SHE
05:07:31PM HELPED ME.
05:07:31PM MY AIDE WAS GONE.
05:07:35PM SULING, IF YOU WOULD GIVE AN INTRODUCTION.
05:07:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAD THAT ON MY AGENDA OVER HERE.
05:07:43PM BUT PLEASE, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
05:07:47PM >> THIS IS CHARLENE WHO -- SHE IS CURRENTLY WITHIN OUR
05:07:51PM OFFICE AND GOING TO TAKE OVER SOME OF DANIELLE'S DUTIES AND
05:07:55PM YOU WILL SEE MORE OF HER, AND SHE WILL BE WORKING ON OUR
05:07:58PM WORKSHOP AND CRA MEETING.
05:08:00PM DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT YOURSELF?
05:08:03PM SHE CAME FROM THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND ALREADY A CURRENT
05:08:06PM CITY EMPLOYEE.
05:08:07PM >> I AM HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY.
05:08:08PM >> WELCOME.
05:08:10PM >> I AM VERY HAPPY TO HAVE HER.
05:08:16PM [LAUGHTER]
05:08:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CLEAR OFF OUR AGENDA AND THEN GO THROUGH THE
05:08:20PM RULES AND PROCEDURES.
05:08:22PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: GOOD EVENING, LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT
05:08:25PM COORDINATION.
05:08:26PM FOR TONIGHT'S AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE ITEMS
05:08:28PM THAT WE HAVE LISTED.
05:08:30PM FOR ITEM NUMBER 1, WHICH IS REZ 22-33, THE APPLICANT HAS
05:08:35PM REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO DECEMBER 1.
05:08:38PM AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:08:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANYONE HERE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK --
05:08:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL GO THROUGH THAT.
05:08:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
05:08:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY MOTION IS TO CONTINUE ITEM 1 TO
05:08:56PM DECEMBER 1 AT 5:01 P.M.
05:08:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN THE ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK
05:09:01PM TO THE CONTINUANCE ONLY TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1, REZ-22-33.
05:09:07PM A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:09:09PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:09:11PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:09:12PM THANK YOU.
05:09:14PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: COUNCIL, ITEM NUMBER 2 IS REZ-22-41.
05:09:23PM THIS IS A MISNOTICE.
05:09:24PM THIS IS ONE OF THE CASES WITH A SECOND MISNOTICE FOR THIS
05:09:28PM PARTICULAR APPLICANT -- FOR THIS APPLICATION, AND PURSUANT
05:09:32PM TO THE CODE SECTION 27-150-D.
05:09:35PM IF THERE ARE TWO MISNOTICES, THE APPLICATION IS WITHDRAWN.
05:09:41PM I AM NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
05:09:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN WE ASK IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE JUST
05:09:48PM FOR THE RECORD?
05:09:48PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THE APPLICANT FOR REZ-22-41, 710 WEST PLATT
05:10:00PM STREET.
05:10:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:10:03PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:10:05PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:10:06PM NOW MISS DOCK, WOULD YOU PLEASE SAY WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
05:10:10PM WAS THIS MISNOTICE BY THE CITY STAFF OR BY THE APPLICANT?
05:10:16PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THIS WAS MISNOTICED BY THE APPLICANT.
05:10:19PM FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE APPLICANT WAS GOING THROUGH THE
05:10:22PM PROCESS ALSO WITH ARC.
05:10:25PM THEY HAD A HEARING AT THE ARC.
05:10:27PM IT WAS DENIED.
05:10:27PM OF COURSE NO APPLICANT ANTICIPATES A DENIAL.
05:10:30PM AND I THINK THEY WERE WORKING WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION TO
05:10:34PM TRY TO GET -- TO REDESIGN THE SITE AND COME BACK, BUT THEY
05:10:38PM HAVEN'T COMMUNICATED TO US AS FAR AS THE REZONING SIDE OF
05:10:42PM THINGS.
05:10:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FOR THE PUBLIC WATCHING AND THE PUBLIC
05:10:45PM HEARING, EXPLAIN.
05:10:46PM WHAT IS IF THERE ARE TWO MISNOTICES?
05:10:49PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THE CASE AT THAT TIME IS AUTOMATICALLY
05:10:52PM WITHDRAWN.
05:10:53PM YOU CAN NOT APPLY FOR SIX MONTHS FROM THE STATE OF THE
05:10:55PM HEARING THAT THE SECOND DATE WAS SCHEDULED.
05:10:57PM HAS TO BE SIX MONTHS FROM TODAY.
05:10:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS DOCK.
05:11:01PM PLEASE PROCEED.
05:11:02PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, ITEM NUMBER 2 IS REZ-22-43.
05:11:07PM THIS CANNOT BE HEARD.
05:11:08PM IT IS A MISNOTICE.
05:11:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO WITHDRAW.
05:11:12PM I MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 3, REZ-22-43 FROM THE AGENDA.
05:11:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:11:27PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:11:29PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:11:30PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ITEM NUMBER 4, REZ-22-48.
05:11:37PM IF THIS ITEM CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA, THIS IS A
05:11:41PM MISNOTICE.
05:11:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION.
05:11:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:11:46PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:11:48PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:11:49PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ITEM NUMBER 6 IS REZ-22-82.
05:11:56PM THE APPLICANT ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE TO NOVEMBER 10.
05:12:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO NOVEMBER 10, 2022.
05:12:04PM >> SECOND.
05:12:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND SECOND
05:12:09PM BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:12:10PM IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE
05:12:13PM CONTINUANCE ONLY OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, REZ-22-82.
05:12:20PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
05:12:21PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ITEM NUMBER 7 IS REZ-22-83.
05:12:30PM IF IT CAN BE REMOVED BECAUSE IT IS A MISNOTICE.
05:12:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:12:35PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:12:38PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:12:38PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ITEM NUMBER 9 IS REZ-22-89.
05:12:47PM THE APPLICANT SENT IN AN E-MAIL AND ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE
05:12:52PM UNTIL DECEMBER 1, 2022.
05:12:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CONTINUE.
05:12:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:13:00PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:13:02PM ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE ONLY OF AGENDA
05:13:05PM NUMBER 9, REZ-22-89.
05:13:10PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
05:13:12PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: NEXT COUNCIL, ITEM NUMBER 10, REZ-22-90.
05:13:17PM IF THIS CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
05:13:19PM THIS IS A MISNOTICE.
05:13:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:13:23PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:13:25PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:13:26PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LASTLY ITEM NUMBER 12 IS REZ-22-99.
05:13:33PM IF THAT CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
05:13:35PM THIS IS A MISNOTICE.
05:13:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE.
05:13:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
05:13:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
05:13:43PM MANISCALCO.
05:13:43PM AND THAT MOTION WAS SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:13:46PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:13:47PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: IF I COULD --
05:13:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:13:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:13:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: QUESTION FOR MISS DOCK, WHY DO WE HAVE SO
05:13:56PM MANY MISNOTICES ON THE AGENDA.
05:13:58PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ASKING THAT.
05:14:01PM WE NOTICED THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREASE IN MISNOTICES WITHIN
05:14:04PM THE LAST COUPLE OF HEARINGS, WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN ON THE
05:14:07PM AGENDA.
05:14:07PM VARIOUS REASONS THAT APPLICANTS DO NOT COMPLETE NOTICE.
05:14:13PM ONE THING WE DID DO ONCE WE NOTICED AN INCREASE IN
05:14:19PM MISNOTICES, REACHED OUT TO THE CLERK, MICHELLE AT THE TIME.
05:14:22PM THE CLERKS ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP US WHICH WE CERTAINLY
05:14:26PM ARE WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE.
05:14:28PM I TALKED TO SULING.
05:14:31PM WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THE MISNOTICES, WHAT IS SHE SEEING,
05:14:35PM THE SIGNS, NOTICES AND INSTRUCTIONS.
05:14:38PM THE NUMBER ONE THING.
05:14:39PM NOT COMPLETING NOTICE.
05:14:41PM NOT THAT IT IS NOT BEING DONE BUT BEING DONE INCORRECTLY.
05:14:45PM WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS INCREASE THE COMMUNICATIONS WITH
05:14:47PM THE APPLICANT AND ALSO JUST INCREASE AWARENESS TO LET THEM
05:14:50PM KNOW THIS IS THE CODE REQUIREMENT.
05:14:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY ARE MISSING, WHY ARE WE PUTTING IT ON
05:14:55PM THE AGENDA IF IT IS NOT GOING TO BE HEARD.
05:14:57PM IF WE KNOW THAT, WHY ARE WE PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA.
05:15:01PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THE WAY IT WORKS IS WE WILL SET A LIST OF
05:15:05PM CASES AND SEND NOTIFICATION TO THE APPLICANT TO DO NOTICE.
05:15:09PM THEY ARE ALREADY SET SO THE AGENDA IS READY OR DRAFTED AT
05:15:12PM THAT POINT.
05:15:12PM THEN THE APPLICANT HAS TO COMPLETE NOTICE.
05:15:16PM IF THE APPLICANT DOES NOT COMPLETE THEIR NOTICE BY DOING
05:15:19PM THEIR MAILINGS, POSTING THEIR SIGNS, THEN THEY ARE
05:15:22PM MISNOTICED.
05:15:22PM IF THEY DO NOTHING AT ALL, THEY ARE A MISNOTICE.
05:15:26PM SOME THINK IF THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING -- THEY MAY NOT BE
05:15:29PM READY FOR WHATEVER REASON TO MOVE FORWARD, WHETHER IT IS
05:15:32PM CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
05:15:36PM THEY DO NOT DO NOTICE.
05:15:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHY DON'T WE HAVE IT COMPLETED FIRST BEFORE
05:15:41PM WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
05:15:42PM I WANT -- I WANT YOU TO GO FORWARD TO EVEN GET TO COUNCIL
05:15:46PM FOR APPROVAL, I WANT EVERYTHING DONE FIRST TO KNOW THAT YOU
05:15:49PM HAVE COMPLETED IT.
05:15:49PM YOU ARE WASTING OUR TIME AND WASTING OUR STAFF'S TIME.
05:15:52PM THAT IS SOMETHING THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO LOOK INTO CHANGING OR
05:15:56PM YOUR DEPARTMENT LOOKING TO CHANGE AND MAKE DIFFERENT
05:15:59PM CHANGES.
05:15:59PM BECAUSE TO ME MAKES -- I GET THE AGENDA AND I HAVE ALL THIS
05:16:05PM STUFF AND COUNCIL IS SPINNING WHEELS AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE
05:16:09PM WASTING TIME.
05:16:10PM DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT OR IS YOUR DEPARTMENT
05:16:13PM DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THAT?
05:16:14PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: WHAT HAPPENS IS, IN ORDER TO BE SET FOR A
05:16:17PM CASE, YOU MUST SUBMIT REVISED PLANS, HAVE A LEGAL
05:16:22PM DESCRIPTION.
05:16:22PM CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU MUST HAVE BEFORE WE EVEN SCHEDULE
05:16:26PM YOU.
05:16:26PM IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, WE WON'T EVEN SCHEDULE YOU.
05:16:30PM ONCE WE SCHEDULE AND YOU MET THE CRITERIA.
05:16:35PM THEN THE APPLICANT IS DOING THE NOTICE AND DOING THE MAIL
05:16:38PM OUT AND DO THE SIGN POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.
05:16:44PM SOME WITHOUT REASON HAVE NOT POSTED NOTICE AT ALL.
05:16:48PM WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO ON THE OTHER END IS, ONE, NOTIFY
05:16:51PM THE APPLICANTS IF YOU DON'T DO NOTICE, IT IS IN FACT A
05:16:55PM MISNOTICE.
05:16:55PM A MISNOTICE IF YOU DO IT INCORRECTLY IS IF YOU DON'T DO IT
05:17:01PM AT ALL STILL COUNTS AS A MISNOTICE.
05:17:04PM THE OTHER APPLICATION MOST RECENTLY WITH THE LAST SET OF
05:17:07PM CASES THAT WE SET, WE ARE CONTACTING EACH APPLICANT AND
05:17:11PM SAYING WE ARE GOING TO SET YOU.
05:17:12PM ARE YOU READY?
05:17:15PM THAT WAY THAT CONFIRMS WITH THE APPLICANT YOU GOT TO GET
05:17:18PM NOTICE.
05:17:18PM YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PUBLIC NOTICE, YOUR MAILOUTS.
05:17:21PM AT THAT TIME, THEY CAN COMMUNICATE WITH US AND TELL US
05:17:24PM WHETHER THEY THINK THEY NEED ADDITIONAL TIME.
05:17:26PM THEY ARE WORKING WITH THEIR CLIENT.
05:17:28PM WHAT HAVE YOU.
05:17:29PM AND THEY WILL LET US KNOW AT THAT TIME.
05:17:32PM I THINK TOO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD IN
05:17:36PM THE LAST HEARING THAT SAID WE COMMUNICATE DIFFERENTLY NOW BY
05:17:39PM E-MAIL, NOT THE PHONE.
05:17:40PM WE DON'T PICK UP THE PHONE ANYMORE.
05:17:43PM SO I AM SORRY BUT APPLICANTS, CALLING YOU.
05:17:46PM WE ARE CALLING YOU TO SEE.
05:17:48PM LET'S HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
05:17:49PM WHERE ARE YOU IN THE PROCESS?
05:17:52PM ARE YOU READY TO MOVE FORWARD?
05:17:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND BUT I LOOK AT IT BEING
05:17:57PM COMPLETED BEFORE YOU PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA.
05:18:00PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ABSOLUTELY, IT HAS TO BE.
05:18:02PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WAITING TO SEE IT IS WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED
05:18:06PM TO DO AND THAT TIME AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT.
05:18:07PM I THINK THAT IS A PROBLEM AND WE NEED TO REVERSE THAT.
05:18:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:18:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK A LOT OF THE PROBLEM IS YOU CAN SEND
05:18:14PM THEM SO FAR AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU HAVE TO NOTICE WITHIN A
05:18:21PM CERTAIN WINDOW.
05:18:22PM WE CAN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE NOTICE AND THEN YOU GET ON THE
05:18:25PM AGENDA BECAUSE THE TIMING.
05:18:27PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THE TIMING.
05:18:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A TIMING ISSUE.
05:18:31PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: EVERYTHING IS CODIFIED.
05:18:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM CURIOUS WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO
05:18:38PM ABOUT THESE THINGS.
05:18:39PM ARE THERE ANY OF THEM -- I AM THROWING IT OUT HERE.
05:18:42PM I KNOW A LOT MORE WORK AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A LEGAL
05:18:45PM THING THAT WE CAN OR CANNOT DO.
05:18:47PM CAN WE TAKE OVER THE NOTICE AND CHARGE A RIDICULOUS FEE LIKE
05:18:52PM $1,000 TO NOTICE FOR THEM.
05:18:53PM CAN WE DO SOMETHING IN THAT REGARD THAT WILL HELP GET
05:18:58PM FURTHER ALONG SO IF YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE NOTICING YOURSELF,
05:19:01PM YOU KNOW, WE CAN CHARGE A STUPID FEE AND DO IT FOR YOU.
05:19:05PM I AM JUST CURIOUS.
05:19:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
05:19:08PM IF I CAN ANSWER BEFORE MISS DOCK DOES.
05:19:11PM STATE LAW DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO REQUIRE -- DOESN'T ALLOW YOU
05:19:15PM TO COLLECT A RIDICULOUS FEE.
05:19:18PM IT HAS TO REFLECT ITS ACTUAL COST.
05:19:20PM JUST -- JUST TO BURST THAT BUBBLE.
05:19:24PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THE OTHER ITEM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS WE
05:19:28PM HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT WILL BE IN TOWN FOR THE
05:19:31PM HEARING.
05:19:31PM ARE THEY HERE.
05:19:32PM YES, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO NOTICE.
05:19:35PM ARE YOU ABLE TO ATTEND PHYSICALLY.
05:19:37PM IF YOU CAN'T -- OR EVEN VIRTUALLY NOW.
05:19:39PM IF YOU CAN'T, IT WILL DO NO GOOD TO SET A DATE.
05:19:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, BUT SUCH AN INTERESTING CONUNDRUM
05:19:47PM BECAUSE -- IS IT -- JUST LIKE WHAT COUNCILMEMBER GUDES SAYS.
05:19:54PM NEW PEOPLE WHO JUST DON'T KNOW.
05:19:55PM OR FOLKS THAT -- ARE THINGS TAKING LONGER AND PEOPLE ARE
05:19:59PM USING THIS MISNOTICE AS A CHANCE TO GET THINGS DONE BEFORE
05:20:03PM THEY GET THINGS ON THE AGENDA.
05:20:05PM JUST INTERESTING.
05:20:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S WHAT I THINK.
05:20:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU.
05:20:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:20:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MEMORIZE MY COLLEAGUES.
05:20:15PM YOU SAID HISTORY.
05:20:17PM IN MY YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE I NEVER SEEN SIX IN ONE
05:20:20PM CALENDAR THAT WERE MISNOTICED, EVER.
05:20:24PM WHAT YOU MENTIONED MISS HURTAK IS THAT WAY BACK, THEY WOULD
05:20:29PM HAVE FIVE AND SIX CONTINUANCES.
05:20:31PM NOW YOU HAVE TWO.
05:20:32PM AFTER THAT YOU ARE WIPED OFF.
05:20:33PM YOU HAVE TO START AGAIN.
05:20:36PM THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES OVER TIME AND FOR THE BETTER
05:20:40PM REALLY BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO COME IN AND SO MANY
05:20:44PM AND YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN.
05:20:45PM BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:20:48PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ABSOLUTELY.
05:20:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:20:50PM MISS DOCK, YOU AND I -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:20:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHAIR SPEAKS LAST.
05:20:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO QUESTIONS.
05:21:00PM ONE IS -- IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN BEING PENALIZED OF THE
05:21:09PM SIX-MONTH WAIT HAVING THE SECOND MISNOTICE VERSUS
05:21:13PM WITHDRAWING THE APPLICATION.
05:21:14PM WHICH ONE IS BETTER FOR THE APPLICANT?
05:21:18PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: WOULD DEPEND ON THE APPLICANT'S SITUATION.
05:21:20PM SOMETIMES AN APPLICANT KNOWS THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO MOVE
05:21:24PM FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION.
05:21:25PM AND SOMETIMES THEY APPLY AND MAY NOT BE IN THE CORRECT
05:21:28PM PROCESS AND THEY WILL WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION.
05:21:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE SECOND THING IS, THEORIES CIRCULATING
05:21:37PM WHY THIS MAY BE HAPPENING NOW.
05:21:38PM ONE IS THAT OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE THROWN OUT THE WORD
05:21:43PM MORATORIUM AND A BIG RUSH TO GET IN THE SYSTEM BEFORE A
05:21:48PM CHANGE LIKE THAT WAS MADE.
05:21:49PM NO CHANGES LIKE THAT ON THE TABLE NOW.
05:21:52PM COULD BE -- ONE THEORY THERE WAS A RUSH JUST IN CASE THAT
05:21:55PM HAPPENED TO GET IN THE TIMELINE.
05:21:56PM THE SECOND THEORY IS THAT THEIR BUDGET TEXT AMENDMENTS IN
05:22:01PM FRONT OF US THAT MAY CHANGE THE SITUATION.
05:22:02PM AND SO IF SOMEBODY COULD DELAY UNTIL AFTER THOSE TEXT
05:22:06PM AMENDMENTS COME BACK WILL CHANGE THEIR SITUATION.
05:22:08PM I WOULD IS SULING OR WHOMEVER IS WORKING ON THIS TO HELP US
05:22:14PM UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE NUANCES OF IT.
05:22:16PM BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE A COINCIDENCE THIS MANY ARE HAPPENING.
05:22:20PM SOMETHING UNDERLYING IT.
05:22:21PM NOT THAT THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE MAKING MISTAKES.
05:22:24PM IF SOMETHING SYSTEMIC IS GOING ON WE BE AWARE OF IT AND
05:22:30PM UNDERSTAND WHAT TO DO.
05:22:31PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ABSOLUTELY.
05:22:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DOCK, WE NEED A TIGHTER GRIP ON IT AND
05:22:38PM STAFF AND US AND PETITIONERS.
05:22:41PM THIS IS AFFECTING EVERYBODY.
05:22:42PM AND AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, FOREWARNED IS FAIR WARN.
05:22:47PM ONE TIME WE WILL LET YOU SLIDE.
05:22:49PM SECOND TIME, YOU HAVE TO WAIT SIX MONTHS.
05:22:52PM AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE EVEN LONGER.
05:22:54PM THANK YOU, MISS DOCK.
05:22:56PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5 REZ-22-58.
05:23:04PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, THIS IS THE FIRST ITEM FOR THE EVENING.
05:23:08PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:23:10PM THIS THE APPLICATION FOR RAMIK WILSON WHO BEING REPRESENTED
05:23:15PM BY MISS WILSON HERE THIS EVENING.
05:23:17PM 2806 EAST ELLICOTT STREET.
05:23:20PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS-50,
05:23:25PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO IG, INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.
05:23:29PM I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE THE
05:23:31PM PRESENTATION.
05:23:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, HAVE IS YOU OPENED THE
05:23:34PM HEARINGS.
05:23:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE HEARINGS.
05:23:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WHISPERED.
05:23:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:23:42PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:23:44PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:23:45PM AYE.
05:23:47PM THANK YOU.
05:23:48PM ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY GIVING -- HOW WE WENT THROUGH THE
05:24:12PM AGENDA FORWARD, BACKWARDS, UPSIDE DOWN AND LEFT, ANYONE
05:24:16PM GIVING ANY TYPE OF TESTIMONY TODAY, PLEASE STAND UP TO BE
05:24:19PM SWORN IN.
05:24:20PM SIDEWAYS, WHATEVER WAYS.
05:24:23PM [SWEARING IN]
05:24:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
05:24:43PM MR. SHELBY, WILL YOU GO THROUGH THE GUIDELINES.
05:24:45PM AND IF I MAY ASK, CAN WE DO THIS ONE TIME THE REST OF THE
05:24:52PM COUNCIL THE YEAR.
05:24:54PM CAN WE DO IT ONE TIME AND GET IT DONE AND OVER WITH.
05:24:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE CAN DO IT NO TIMES.
05:25:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE DO THIS EVERY MEETING.
05:25:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE DON'T HAVE TO.
05:25:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO IT ONE TIME AND CLEAR IT OUT FOR THE REST
05:25:07PM OF THE YEAR.
05:25:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE SHORT ANSWER OF THAT IS YES.
05:25:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:25:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK BRING IT UP AT THE END.
05:25:15PM I WILL DO THIS VERY QUICKLY.
05:25:16PM THE CITIZENS AND THE PUBLIC OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO
05:25:20PM WATCH THIS MEETING ON SPECTRUM 640, FRONTIER CHANNEL 15, AND
05:25:26PM ON THE INTERNET AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
05:25:29PM AND MEMBERS MAY PARTICIPATE IN TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
05:25:33PM PRESENTLY HERE AT 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD BY ATTENDING IN
05:25:37PM PERSON OR THROUGH VIDEO TELECONFERENCING REFERRED TO BY
05:25:42PM FLORIDA STATUTE AND RULES AS CMT.
05:25:46PM VIRTUALLY.
05:25:48PM PREREGISTRATION IS REQUIRED.
05:25:50PM THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEB SITE,
05:25:53PM TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL IN THE AGENDA AND IN THE NOTICE OF
05:25:58PM THIS HEARING.
05:25:59PM NOW PARTICULARLY IN QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS DEVICE WITH VIDEO
05:26:05PM AND AUDIO.
05:26:06PM SMARTPHONE ALSO NOT WORK.
05:26:08PM I WILL ASK COUNCIL TO CONTINUE TO WAIVE THE USE OF CMT UNTIL
05:26:12PM WE MAKE IT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT ANYMORE.
05:26:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:26:18PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:26:19PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:26:21PM NOW THAT WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING LEGAL, DISCUSS EVERYTHING
05:26:25PM THE WAY WE ARE DOING THINGS THE WAY WE ARE DOING, PLEASE
05:26:28PM PROCEED.
05:26:28PM >>EMILY PHALEN: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:26:30PM EMILY PHALEN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:26:34PM THE SUBJECT SITE IN THE CENTRAL PLANNING DISTRICT AND EAST
05:26:37PM TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:26:38PM THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP LOCATED 0.3 MILE SOUTH OF THE
05:26:43PM SUBJECT SITE OF CORNER OF 22nd STREET AND OSBOURNE AVENUE.
05:26:47PM FREEDOM TRAIL IS THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY 0.1 MILE
05:26:52PM SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN LEVEL E
05:26:55PM EVACUATION ZONE.
05:26:56PM HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:27:00PM IT IS OUTLINED HERE IN PURPLE.
05:27:02PM IT IS GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF EAST OSBOURNE AVENUE IN
05:27:07PM EAST OF MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL WHICH IS OVER HERE.
05:27:10PM THE SURROUNDING AREA IS CHARACTERIZED BY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL,
05:27:14PM LIGHT AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND A FEW RESIDENTIALLY ZONED
05:27:18PM PROPERTIES.
05:27:18PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE IN PURPLE.
05:27:23PM AND THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
05:27:28PM AND THE ORANGISH COLOR IS THE TRANSITIONAL USE-24
05:27:33PM DESIGNATION.
05:27:34PM THIS SUBJECT SITE IS SURROUNDED BY TRANSITIONAL USE-24.
05:27:38PM THIS IS MIDDLETON HIGH.
05:27:40PM AND THIS IS RESIDENTIAL-10.
05:27:42PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND
05:27:47PM NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:27:50PM PARCEL SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT SITE ARE ZONED INDUSTRIAL
05:27:53PM GENERAL.
05:27:54PM WHILE THERE IS AN EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNIT TO
05:27:57PM THE WEST, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REQUIRES COMMERCIAL USES TO
05:28:02PM BE BUFFERED FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
05:28:06PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT AND
05:28:10PM REDEVELOPMENT TO SUSTAIN STABLE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ENSURE THE
05:28:13PM SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC HEALTH OF THE CITY AND DISCOURAGES
05:28:17PM RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT NEAR INDUSTRIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES.
05:28:19PM GIVEN THE PRESENCE OF INDUSTRIAL GENERAL ZONING TO THE EAST
05:28:23PM AND SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THE PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL
05:28:26PM GENERAL ZONING SUPPORTS POLICY DIRECTION BY DISCOURAGING THE
05:28:31PM POTENTIAL OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
05:28:33PM DUE TO THE INDUSTRIAL GENERAL PARCELS IN THE IMMEDIATE
05:28:37PM SURROUNDING AREA, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE
05:28:39PM REQUEST COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA
05:28:42PM AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED
05:28:45PM UNDER THE TRANSITIONAL USE-24 DESIGNATION.
05:28:49PM THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
05:28:50PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:28:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
05:29:00PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
05:29:02PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:29:05PM ITEM NUMBER 5, REZ-22-58.
05:29:11PM THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
05:29:13PM THE SIZE IS 6600 SQUARE FEET, THAT IS THE LOT AREA.
05:29:18PM AND I HAVE AN AERIAL MAP WITH THE ZONING TO SHOW YOU THE
05:29:22PM PROPERTY.
05:29:25PM THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT IS IDENTIFIED HERE IN THE RED
05:29:28PM DOTTED AREA.
05:29:29PM AND THIS IS ELLICOTT.
05:29:31PM THIS IS 29th STREET JUST TO ORIENT YOU ON THE MAP.
05:29:35PM THIS IS OSBOURNE, TO IT IS NORTH OF OSBOURNE.
05:29:39PM AND YOU CAN SEE THIS AREA RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY IS THIS
05:29:42PM PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
05:29:44PM AND THE PROPERTY WEST OF IT THAT HAS THE RS-50 ZONING.
05:29:48PM SURROUNDING IT IS IG ZONING, EVEN TO THE EAST.
05:29:51PM YOU HAVE A POCKET OF RS-50 THAT IS HERE AND YOU WILL FIND A
05:29:56PM MIXTURE OF THE ZONING DESIGNATIONS HERE WITHIN THIS AREA.
05:30:01PM AND RESIDENTIAL USES ALONG WITH COMMERCIAL AND OPEN STORAGE
05:30:05PM USES IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA.
05:30:06PM AND THEN I HAVE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
05:30:13PM SO THIS IS THE SITE.
05:30:18PM YOU CAN SEE IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
05:30:20PM THIS IS EAST OF THE SITE.
05:30:22PM 29th STREET IS TO THE RIGHT OF THIS PICTURE.
05:30:25PM THIS IS A PICTURE SOUTHEAST OF THE SITE.
05:30:30PM THIS IS AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF 29th AND ELLICOTT.
05:30:34PM THIS IS SOUTH OF THE SITE.
05:30:36PM THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE.
05:30:39PM WHICH IS VACANT.
05:30:42PM THE LARGER VACANT LOT THAT IS TO THE WEST.
05:30:45PM THAT IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SAME LOT.
05:30:47PM AND THIS IS IMMEDIATELY WEST OF THE SITE.
05:30:51PM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
05:30:57PM APPLICATION AND PROVIDES THE CASE AS CONSISTENT.
05:31:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES?
05:31:06PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE PROPERTY BEHIND MIDDLETON, THE RAILROAD
05:31:10PM TRACKS?
05:31:11PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THIS IS A LITTLE FURTHER.
05:31:12PM BECAUSE HERE IS OSBOURNE -- OH, ON THIS SIDE.
05:31:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE FOOTBALL FIELD.
05:31:19PM IT IS.
05:31:20PM BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THE BRUSH BACK THERE.
05:31:22PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES.
05:31:23PM ON THIS IT IS HARD TO SEE.
05:31:24PM 29th STREET ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH, BUT THE --
05:31:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY THOUGH.
05:31:31PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THE TREE CANOPY, BUT IT ACTUALLY GOES
05:31:38PM THROUGH.
05:31:39PM YES.
05:31:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
05:31:42PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY
05:31:44PM QUESTIONS.
05:31:45PM THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT.
05:31:46PM YOU CAN COME AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
05:31:51PM >> GOOD EVENING.
05:31:51PM EUGENA WILSON, AND I AM THE AGENT FOR MY SON, RAMIK WILSON.
05:31:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD, THE REASON
05:32:01PM YOU ARE ASKING FOR THIS?
05:32:03PM >> WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT ONE
05:32:05PM SIDE WAS INDUSTRIAL.
05:32:07PM AND THE OTHER SIDE WAS RESIDENTIAL.
05:32:09PM WE DIDN'T FIND THAT OUT UNTIL LATER.
05:32:11PM UNTIL WE TRIED TO SELL THE PROPERTY AND IT WAS A CONFLICT OF
05:32:15PM INTEREST.
05:32:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE
05:32:20PM PETITIONER?
05:32:22PM THANK YOU.
05:32:22PM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
05:32:26PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
05:32:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:32:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
05:32:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
05:32:35PM THANK YOU.
05:32:37PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:32:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL
05:32:43PM FILE NUMBER REZ-22-58, ORDINANCE OF FIRST READING
05:32:49PM CONSIDERATION ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
05:32:52PM VICINITY OF 2806 EAST ELLICOTT STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
05:32:56PM FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM
05:32:59PM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50, RESIDENTIAL
05:33:02PM SINGLE-FAMILY TO IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL, PROVIDING AN
05:33:06PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:33:06PM >> SECOND.
05:33:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT
05:33:10PM THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT WOULD ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT
05:33:13PM THAT IS COMPARABLE TO THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING USES
05:33:16PM AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE WIDE RANGE OF USES ALLOWED UNDER
05:33:20PM THE TRANSITIONAL 24 DESIGNATION.
05:33:25PM AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN
05:33:28PM THE SURROUNDING AREA.
05:33:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED
05:33:32PM BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:33:34PM ROLL CALL VOLT.
05:33:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:33:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:33:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:33:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:33:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:33:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:33:44PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT.
05:33:48PM SECOND READING NOVEMBER 24, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
05:34:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, REZ-22-85.
05:34:08PM >> LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:34:11PM THIS NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 8 AT 1242 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE AND 629
05:34:18PM AND 635 NORTH 12th STREET.
05:34:20PM THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED BY ALEX SCHALER AND THE REQUEST
05:34:25PM IS TO REZONE FROM TO PD FROM CD-2 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
05:34:36PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY STORE FRONT.
05:34:40PM I WILL GIVE IT OVER TO EMILY AND THEN I WILL COME BACK TO
05:34:44PM GIVE MY REPORT.
05:34:45PM THANK YOU.
05:34:45PM >>EMILY PHALEN: EMILY PHALEN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:34:59PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN THE PLANNING DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:35:04PM SIGNIFICANT TRANSPORTATION RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE IS PRESENT
05:35:07PM WITHIN PROXIMITY OF THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG CHANNELSIDE
05:35:10PM DRIVE.
05:35:11PM THIS SITE IS SERVED BY TWO HART BUS ROUTES AND A TECO STREET
05:35:15PM CAR RUNS ADJACENT TO THE SITE ALONG CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
05:35:18PM MEMORIAL DOG PARK IS THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY
05:35:22PM LOCATED A QUARTER MILE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE SITE
05:35:25PM IS LOCATED WITHIN LEVEL "A" EVACUATION ZONE AND COMPLETELY
05:35:29PM WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
05:35:32PM THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:35:38PM IT IS RIGHT HERE IN PURPLE.
05:35:40PM THE HART ROUTES RUN HERE AND THE STREET CAR IS RUN ALONG
05:35:43PM THIS SIDE OF CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
05:35:45PM THE SURROUNDING AREA IS URBAN IN CHARACTER AND IS TRENDING
05:35:51PM TOWARD A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
05:35:53PM TO THE NORTH AND EAST OF THE PARCEL ARE LIGHT COMMERCIAL,
05:35:57PM LIGHT AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, AND PUBLIC, SEMI PUBLIC USES.
05:36:01PM TO THE WEST ARE MULTIFAMILY USES WHICH IS THE APARTMENT
05:36:05PM COMPLEX.
05:36:05PM THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE.
05:36:12PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE.
05:36:14PM AND IT IS REPRESENTED BY THE MAGENTA COLOR, WHICH IS
05:36:17PM REGIONAL MIXED USE-100 DESIGNATION.
05:36:20PM IN JULY 2002 -- 2022, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED ORDINANCE
05:36:27PM NUMBER 2022-118, A PLAN AMENDMENT RECOGNIZING THE SUBJECT
05:36:32PM SITE UNDER THE REGIONAL MIXED USE-100 DESIGNATION.
05:36:36PM THE APPLICANT IS UTILIZING THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT
05:36:40PM PERIPHERY BONUS TO CONTAIN ADDITIONAL INTENSITY ON THE
05:36:44PM SUBJECT SITE.
05:36:44PM THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES A 7.0 F.A.R. WHICH IS
05:36:49PM CONSISTENT WITH THE RMU-100 DESIGNATION THROUGH THE
05:36:53PM PERIPHERY BONUS.
05:36:55PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES RESIDENTIAL, MIXED USE,
05:36:59PM RETAIL, SERVICE COMMERCIAL AND OTHER PEDESTRIAN-ORIENTED
05:37:02PM USES ALONG MIXED USE CORRIDORS TO BE ORIENTED TOWARD THE
05:37:07PM STREET BY PLACING THEM TOWARD THE FRONT OF PROPERTIES WITH
05:37:10PM ENTRIES FRONTING THE STREET.
05:37:12PM THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED MULTIPLE ENTRANCES OF NORTH 12th
05:37:19PM STREET AND CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
05:37:20PM SIDEWALKS ARE PRESENTED ALONG THE ADJACENT RIGHT-OF-WAYS
05:37:24PM THAT WILL MAKE SURE SIDEWALKS INTERCONNECT WITH THE EXISTING
05:37:28PM AND FUTURE SIDEWALKS ON ADJACENT PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
05:37:32PM THE REPORT SUGGESTS MANY POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
05:37:36PM OF HOUSING THE CITY'S POPULATION.
05:37:38PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON VACANT AND
05:37:42PM UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO ENSURE AN ADEQUATE HOUSING SUPPLY IS
05:37:47PM REQUIRED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S POPULATION.
05:37:50PM THE REQUEST IS ALSO COMPACT WITH THE CITY STRATEGY OF
05:37:57PM PROMOTING WALKING AND NEAR EMPLOYMENT, CONCENTRATION,
05:38:00PM RESIDENTIAL SERVICES AND AMENITIES.
05:38:01PM THE PROPOSED PD IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
05:38:05PM ANTICIPATED UNDER THE RMU-100 DESIGNATION AND COMPARABLE AND
05:38:10PM COMPATIBLE TO THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
05:38:12PM THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:38:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:38:24PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
05:38:26PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:38:28PM THIS IS FOR REZ-22-85 WHICH, AGAIN, IS ITEM NUMBER 8 ON THE
05:38:35PM AGENDA.
05:38:35PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM CD-2 TO PD WITH THE
05:38:41PM RESIDENTIAL MULTI FAMILY USE AND STOREFRONT, OFFICE AND
05:38:46PM COMMERCIAL USES.
05:38:46PM SO EMILY HAS FAMILIARIZED YOU WITH THE SITE AND THE
05:38:50PM LOCATION.
05:38:51PM SO THE SITE IS COMPRISED OF THREE PARCELS.
05:38:55PM TWO PARCELS LOCATED HERE ON 12th STREET.
05:38:57PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
05:39:00PM TO ORIENT YOU, THIS IS 12th STREET.
05:39:03PM THIS IS CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
05:39:04PM SO TWO SITES THAT ARE LOCATED HERE.
05:39:07PM TWO PARCELS AND THEN ONE PARCEL LOCATED HERE ON CHANNELSIDE.
05:39:11PM AND THE TOTAL FOR THOSE THREE PARCELS IS 1.5 ACRES.
05:39:17PM SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT TWO TOWERS
05:39:21PM ON-SITE AND IDENTIFIED ON THE SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU AS TOWER
05:39:24PM ONE AND TOWER TWO.
05:39:25PM AND TOWER ONE PROPOSES A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 365 FEET
05:39:30PM AND PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT 532 UNITS.
05:39:34PM AND TOWER TWO HAS A HEIGHT -- A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF
05:39:38PM 175 FEET, AND THAT IS WHERE THE STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL
05:39:43PM OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USE WILL BE LOCATED AND THAT WILL
05:39:45PM CONSISTENT OF 8,000 SQUARE FEET OF THOSE USES.
05:39:50PM TOTAL BUILDING AREA IS 457,380 SQUARE FEET AND PUTS YOU AT
05:39:56PM THE PROPOSED F.A.R. AT THE 6.98 OR 7.0.
05:40:01PM SO ACCESS TO THE SITE AS EMILY MENTIONED IS ON 12th STREET.
05:40:07PM YOU CAN SEE AN ENTRY ONLY ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE
05:40:10PM SITE.
05:40:11PM AND AN ENTRY AND EXIT THAT IS LOCATED HERE ON THIS SITE ON
05:40:16PM 12th STREET.
05:40:17PM TRAFFIC WILL FLOW IN AND THEN A GARAGE THAT CONNECTS THE TWO
05:40:20PM TOWERS -- THE TWO TOWER SPACES.
05:40:23PM AS WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU, THE FUTURE LAND USE
05:40:27PM DESIGNATION IS RMU-100, RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE WHICH WILL
05:40:31PM ALLOW MAXIMUM F.A.R. AT 3.5 BY RIGHT, BUT THE APPLICANT CAN
05:40:40PM REQUEST UP TO 7.0 WHICH IS WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED.
05:40:43PM THEY HAVE ENTERED INTO A BONUS AGREEMENT.
05:40:46PM ALLOWS THEM TO ACHIEVE THAT 7.0.
05:40:50PM AS A BONUS THEY ARE PROVIDING PURSUANT TO 27-140-F-1.
05:40:55PM AGREEING TO PAY 10% -- TO PROVIDE 10% OF THEIR RENTAL UNITS
05:40:59PM AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
05:41:01PM AND THIS IS THEIR BONUS TO ACHIEVE THAT 7.0.
05:41:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: REPEAT THAT AGAIN -- MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:41:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES IS RECOGNIZED.
05:41:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: PIQUED MY INTEREST.
05:41:14PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ABSOLUTELY, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:41:18PM THAT IS THE BONUS THEY WILL ACHIEVE.
05:41:19PM A LIST OF AMENITIES THAT THE APPLICANT CAN SELECT FROM UNDER
05:41:24PM 27 AND ONE OF THEM THAT CAN ALLOW TO ACHIEVE A BONUS IS 10%
05:41:32PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHAT THE APPLICANT IS DOING THERE IS AN
05:41:39PM ASSOCIATED BONUS AGREEMENT AND YOU WILL SEE A SEPARATE ITEM
05:41:42PM ON IT.
05:41:43PM THIS IS THE ZONING MAP THIS IS THE PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY
05:41:50PM IDENTIFIED HERE.
05:41:50PM THIS IS THE OTHER END, IT IS NOT HIGHLIGHTED IN RED AND THIS
05:41:54PM IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ON 12th STREET.
05:41:57PM YOU CAN SEE THE CD-2 ZONING.
05:42:01PM CD-2.
05:42:03PM THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE HERE THE SOUTH END OF THE
05:42:08PM GAS WORX PROJECT THAT CAME BEFORE COUNCIL A LONG TIME AGO.
05:42:13PM TWIGG STREET IS LOCATED HERE.
05:42:18PM I WILL SHOW YOU PICTURES OF THE SITE OF THE EAST SIDE AND TO
05:42:22PM THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST.
05:42:23PM THE SITE ON THE EAST SIDE IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
05:42:30PM LET ME ZOOM IN.
05:42:32PM SORRY.
05:42:32PM THIS IS THE SITE HERE BEHIND THIS FENCE.
05:42:41PM THAT IS ANOTHER VIEW.
05:42:44PM THAT IS A CLOSE-UP OF THE SITE.
05:42:46PM THE EASTERN SIDE ON CHANNELSIDE.
05:42:48PM THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE AND THAT IS ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING
05:42:56PM NORTH.
05:42:57PM ANOTHER PARCEL.
05:42:58PM THIS IS FURTHER NORTH.
05:43:03PM THIS IS EAST.
05:43:04PM ANOTHER VIEW TO THE EAST OF THE SITE.
05:43:09PM AND WE WILL CIRCLE BACK.
05:43:14PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH.
05:43:15PM SO THIS IS ON CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
05:43:17PM AND IF YOU ARE LOOKING SOUTH, THIS IS THE WEST END OF THE
05:43:26PM SITE.
05:43:26PM THIS IS ON 12th STREET.
05:43:27PM AND THIS IS THE SITE TO THE LEFT IN THIS PICTURE.
05:43:30PM THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW.
05:43:36PM THE SAME -- THIS IS 12th STREET DOWN TO THE RIGHT AT THE
05:43:40PM BOTTOM OF THE PICTURE AND THE SITE ON THE WEST.
05:43:43PM SORRY.
05:43:44PM WEST OF THE SITE OF 12th STREET AND THIS IS THE VIEW -- THIS
05:43:51PM IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE.
05:43:53PM TO THE RIGHT OF THE PICTURE AND LOOKING NORTH ON 12th
05:43:58PM STREET.
05:43:58PM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FOUND
05:44:03PM THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
05:44:07PM ORDINANCES AND JUST SEE THE FINDING FROM TRANSPORTATION
05:44:09PM RELATED TO THE WAIVER REQUESTED FROM TRANSPORTATION.
05:44:12PM THERE IS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ON
05:44:15PM THE WAIVER REQUESTED.
05:44:17PM THERE IS A WAIVER NUMBER ONE ON THE SITE PLAN WHICH IS TO
05:44:21PM REDUCE THE REQUIRED PARKING.
05:44:23PM YOU MAY RECALL RECENTLY, COUNCIL, A PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT
05:44:29PM AMENDMENT FROM THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP REPRESENTED BY
05:44:32PM KAREN KRESS AND BROUGHT FORTH TO REDUCE THE PARKING IN THE
05:44:36PM CENTRAL DISTRICT AND CHANNEL DISTRICT.
05:44:39PM THAT HAS ADOPTED AND CHANGES THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR
05:44:42PM THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
05:44:43PM SO THAT WAIVER WILL BE REMOVED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
05:44:46PM READING AND I PROVIDED A REVISED REVISION SHEET FOR YOU AND
05:44:49PM IT HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
05:44:51PM AFTER THE CODE AMENDMENT, THE REQUIRED PARKING WILL BE 403
05:44:55PM SPARESES WHICH IS A DIFFERENCE OF 145 SPACES SO THAT WAIVER
05:45:00PM WILL NOT BE REQUIRED.
05:45:03PM YES.
05:45:04PM YOU HAVE THE REVISED REVISION SHEET.
05:45:08PM THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
05:45:10PM YES.
05:45:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:45:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE QUICK QUESTION AND PART OF MY MEMORY
05:45:16PM AFTER A LONG DAY.
05:45:17PM CAN YOU PUT THAT AERIAL MAP BACK UP AND JUST TELL US -- I
05:45:22PM FORGOT THE NAME OF THE DOWNTOWN EXCEPTION AREA STOPS.
05:45:26PM YEARS AGO, COUNCIL KIND OF GAVE UP AUTHORITY FOR DOWNTOWN SO
05:45:31PM STAFF CAN APPROVE DOWNTOWN PROJECTS.
05:45:33PM IS THIS ANYWHERE NEAR CLOSE TO THAT BOUNDARY?
05:45:37PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: IS THAT THE PERIPHERY YOU ARE REFERRING TO?
05:45:39PM THE CDB PERIPHERY.
05:45:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: STAFF CAN DO IT WITHOUT COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
05:45:45PM HOW FAR AWAY IS THIS FROM THE PROJECT BOUNDARY.
05:45:50PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: IT IS WITHIN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
05:45:52PM IT IS -- BECAUSE AS YOU -- THIS INTERSTATE IS ALMOST A
05:45:56PM DIVIDING AND ON THE EAST.
05:45:57PM FARTHER NORTH.
05:45:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ADJACENT TO IT.
05:46:01PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YOU ARE TALKING OF THE DDR PROCESS TO APPLY
05:46:06PM FOR THE CDB, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
05:46:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: FURTHER AWAY, STAFF COULD HAVE APPROVED IT.
05:46:17PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: HERE IS MERIDIAN AVENUE AND CHANNEL DISTRICT
05:46:21PM ON THE RIGHT.
05:46:21PM IT IS TWO, THREE BLOCKS OVER.
05:46:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY, THANK YOU.
05:46:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
05:46:29PM THANK YOU.
05:46:30PM PETITIONER?
05:47:00PM >> TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
05:47:03PM AN HONOR TO BE HERE WHAT WE HOPE TO BE A HISTORICALLY SHORT
05:47:08PM MEETING.
05:47:09PM WE WILL GET THIS POWERPOINT UP.
05:47:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAY THAT WITH SUCH A STRAIGHT FACE.
05:47:15PM >> WE'LL SEE.
05:47:16PM IT IS NOT OVER YET.
05:47:18PM ALL RIGHT.
05:47:20PM VeLa DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS THE DEVELOPER.
05:47:29PM RICK BENJAMIN HERE.
05:47:33PM WITH US IN THE ROOM IS ALEX SCHALER ALONG WITH EXPERTS FROM
05:47:37PM KIMLEY-HORN, THE CIVIL ENGINEER.
05:47:39PM AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS.
05:47:41PM DARK MOSS WHO IS THE ARBORIST.
05:47:43PM SMALL WOOD THE ARCHITECT AND THE PROJECT DESIGNER.
05:47:48PM I THINK EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT LOCATION.
05:47:51PM ONE THING TO NOTE IS 2 STRETCHES BETWEEN 12th STREET AND
05:47:55PM CHANNELSIDE.
05:47:56PM 12th STREET -- SHOCKING WHAT 12th STREET LOOKS LIKE A COUPLE
05:48:00PM OF YEARS AGO AND NOW.
05:48:01PM THIS ENTIRE BLOCK IS FILLED OUT WITH DEVELOPMENT.
05:48:03PM YOU HAVE ONE SITE THAT HAS TOPPED OUT.
05:48:06PM THE DANIEL SITE AND THIS PROJECT IS ADDING AN ADDITIONAL
05:48:09PM AMOUNT OF DENSITY OVER 530 UNITS AND 12th STREET WILL WALK
05:48:13PM UP INTO WHERE THE QUOTE FOUR GREEN FIELDS AS PART OF THE
05:48:21PM GAS WORX PROJECT THAT THIS COUNCIL IS FAMILIAR WITH AT THAT
05:48:24PM TIME THIS POINT.
05:48:24PM TO WORK THROUGH HOW THE DEVELOPMENT WILL WORK.
05:48:26PM THE VEHICULAR INGRESS, EGRESS, AND FRONTAGE OF THE SITE WILL
05:48:32PM FEEL LIKE ON 12th STREET NOT ON CHANNELSIDE DRIVE DESPITE
05:48:35PM BEING A BUSIER STREET.
05:48:36PM AN ENTRANCE ON CHANNELSIDE SIDE TO THE EAST THAT YOU CAN
05:48:40PM SEE.
05:48:40PM THE RETAIL, THE MAIN ENTRANCE, THE LOBBY, WILL BE GEARED UP
05:48:44PM ON THE WESTERN SIDE.
05:48:45PM ON 12th STREET, 8,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND-FLOOR RETAIL.
05:48:51PM AND SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FRONTAL SPACE.
05:48:53PM THEY PUT LEASING OFFICE TO THE FRONT.
05:48:57PM LEAGUING OFFICE IS NOT THE MOST DYNAMIC OFFICE.
05:49:00PM IT IS SET BACK AND THE FRONTAGE USABLE SPACE WILL BE
05:49:05PM ALLOCATED TO RETAIL.
05:49:06PM LACHONE MENTIONED THE 10% AFFORDABLE.
05:49:10PM 54 SET-ASIDE UNITS WHICH IS THE SECOND LARGEST SET-ASIDE
05:49:15PM THAT HAS BEEN UP TO CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE, SECOND ONLY TO
05:49:18PM GASWORX.
05:49:19PM 27 OF THOSE WILL WILL BE 80% AMI.
05:49:22PM AND OTHER 27 WILL BE AT 120% REPRESENT LIMITS WHICH, AGAIN,
05:49:27PM MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE FOR THE HOUSING NEEDS OF THIS
05:49:29PM COMMUNITY.
05:49:30PM WITH THAT PICTURE, I AM GOING TO LEAVE THINGS TO MY
05:49:35PM COLLEAGUE, ALEX.
05:49:36PM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE FOR THE RECORD.
05:49:40PM AS TYLER SHOWED THE 2-D LAYOUT OF THE SITE IMPORTANT TO SHOW
05:49:46PM THESE RENDERINGS.
05:49:48PM TOWER TWO FRONTING CHANNELSIDE.
05:49:51PM TOWER ONE ALONG NORTH 12th STREET.
05:49:53PM YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING GARAGE IS VERY WELL SCREENED AS
05:49:56PM SHOWN IN THIS RENDERING.
05:49:59PM THE AMENITY DECK IS SHOWN THERE AS WELL.
05:50:02PM WE ARE GRATEFUL TO HAVE STAFF'S REPORT ON THIS APPLICATION.
05:50:07PM PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THIS CONSISTENT AS WELL AS ALL OF
05:50:10PM THE CITY OF TAMPA REVIEWING DEPTHS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
05:50:13PM TRANSPORTATION AND WE WILL GO INTO THAT INTO THE COUPLE OF
05:50:17PM SLIDES AS WE RUN THROUGH THE WAIVERS.
05:50:20PM LACHONE MENTIONED THE PARKING WAIVER BETWEEN FIRST AND
05:50:24PM SECOND READING.
05:50:25PM WE HAVE THREE REMAINING WAIVERS, LOADING WAIVER AND
05:50:29PM SETBACKS.
05:50:29PM THE LOADING WAIVER WE USUALLY COME BEFORE TWO WAIVERS WITH
05:50:32PM RESPECT TO LOADING AND TO ALLOW LOADING TO OCCUR IN ONE
05:50:38PM CONTINUOUS MANEUVER.
05:50:40PM THE TRUCK WILL PULL IN THE PROPERTY SIDE AND PULL BACK INTO
05:50:45PM THE LOADING ZONE.
05:50:46PM WE REQUEST A WAIVER INTO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AS WELL, THAT IS
05:50:50PM NOT IN THIS APPLICATION.
05:50:51PM THE RED DASHED LINE IS CIRCULATION AND ALL WILL BE ON-SITE
05:50:56PM FOR LOADING.
05:50:57PM GREEN SPACE FOR MULTIFAMILY TO PROVIDE 30%.
05:51:00PM WE ARE PROPOSING TO REDUCE THAT TO 11.
05:51:02PM MOST HIGH-DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS HAVE CIRCULATION INTERNAL TO
05:51:05PM THE BUILDING INTO THE PARKING GARAGE AND DOES NOT REQUIRE
05:51:09PM GREEN SPACE.
05:51:10PM AND AS YOU SEE WE HAVE A NORTHERN LOOP EXTERNAL AND REQUIRES
05:51:14PM GREEN SPACE.
05:51:15PM ALTHOUGH THAT ISN'T COUNTED IN THE 11% WE ARE PROVIDING,
05:51:19PM THAT IS 1400 SQUARE FEET WITH THE -- WITH APPROXIMATELY 3100
05:51:23PM OR 3200 SQUARE FEET OF MULTIFAMILY GREEN SPACE AND BRINGS
05:51:26PM THE TOTAL TO 4600 WHICH IS JUST BELOWED THAT REQUIRED
05:51:30PM APPROXIMATELY 5,000 SQUARE FEET WE WOULD NEED FOR THE SITE.
05:51:33PM I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE IN DISCUSSING THIS AND LOOKING THROUGH
05:51:36PM THE GREEN SPACE.
05:51:36PM AS YOU KNOW, CHANNELSIDE IS INHERENTLY IMPERVIOUS AND THE
05:51:41PM CHANNELSIDE CRA HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF TAKING THESE PUBLIC
05:51:45PM SPACES AND CREATING GREEN SPACE SO THE COMMUNITY HAS
05:51:47PM GATHERING AREAS OF GREEN SPACE EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT
05:51:50PM INDIVIDUALLY ON -- INDIVIDUALLY ON INDIVIDUAL PARCELS.
05:51:54PM THIS IS A DESIGN FOR RENOVATIONS AND THE PROPOSED PARK, THE
05:51:59PM RV LOT, THE WAY THE CRA IS REFERRING TO IT.
05:52:03PM THE PLANNING WILL BE UNDER WAY SOON WITH CONSTRUCTION NEXT
05:52:07PM YEAR.
05:52:07PM THE LAST WAIVER IS THE SETBACK WAIVER.
05:52:09PM THE CHANNEL DISTRICT IS UNIQUE THAT THE FRONT YARDS ARE
05:52:12PM BASED OFF OF THE STREET OF WHICH THEY ARE LOCATED.
05:52:15PM FRONTAGE ALONG 12th STREET AND CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
05:52:20PM AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THEY ARE RELATIVELY LOW SETBACKS
05:52:26PM AND GIVEN THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF OUR BUILDING, I WILL NOT
05:52:28PM BORE YOU WITH THE CALCULATIONS AND WE HAVE THEM LISTED ON
05:52:31PM THE SCREEN.
05:52:31PM REQUIRED TO HAVE 24.3 TO 29.3 SETBACK AND NORTH 12th STREET
05:52:39PM REDUCING FROM 39 FEET TO 25.5 FEET SHOWING THERE.
05:52:43PM AND URBAN DESIGN SUPPORTS THE REQUEST.
05:52:45PM WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE IS A DIRECT
05:52:48PM APPLICATION OF THE CODE RESULTS IN A DESIGN THAT ISN'T
05:52:51PM NECESSARILY THE BEST PLANNING PRINCIPLES.
05:52:54PM STRICT ADHERENCE THE EASTERN AND WESTERN SETBACKS WITH TALL
05:53:01PM BUILDING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:53:02PM AND GOOD PRINCIPLES ARE REDUCED SETBACKS AND MOVING THE
05:53:06PM BUILDING CLOSER TO THE ROAD NORTH 12th STREET AND
05:53:09PM CHANNELSIDE DRIVE THAT WE CAN ACTIVATE THOSE CORRIDORS AND
05:53:12PM FOSTER PEDESTRIAN ENGAGEMENT ALONG THE GROUND LEVEL.
05:53:15PM WITH THAT TO RICK BENJAMIN, VeLa PARTNERS AND WHY THEY ARE
05:53:26PM INTERESTED IN TAMPA.
05:53:29PM >> I AM NICK BENJAMIN WITH VeLa DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS.
05:53:34PM I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN TALK QUITE AS FAST AS ALEX AND TYLER
05:53:39PM BUT I WILL DO MY BEST.
05:53:40PM EXCITED TO TALK OF THIS PROCESS.
05:53:42PM OUR PHILOSOPHY AT VeLa IS THAT YOU CAN BUILD LUXURY HOUSING
05:53:46PM THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS AND MAKE IT ATTAINABLE.
05:53:49PM DEVELOP BEST-IN-CLASS AMENITIES AND MAKE ADDITION TO
05:53:54PM SKYLINES THAT WE ARE PROUD OF THAT THE COMMUNITY IS PROUD OF
05:54:01PM AND YOU CAN PROVIDE WORK FORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TO IT
05:54:05PM IN TAMPA.
05:54:06PM SO MUCH ENERGY FROM A DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE.
05:54:08PM A GROWTH PERSPECTIVE.
05:54:09PM THE INVESTMENTS THAT ALREADY HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE WATER
05:54:12PM STREET PROJECT BY SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE HERE TODAY
05:54:15PM AND THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, THE POTENTIAL OF THE GAS WORX
05:54:21PM PROJECT TO THE NORTH.
05:54:22PM WE ARE VERY EAGER TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF THE
05:54:25PM COMMUNITY AND INVEST IN IT.
05:54:26PM AND HAPPY -- WE HAVE SOME OTHER SPEAKERS HERE, BUT HAPPY TO
05:54:29PM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ONCE THEY ARE DONE AND THANKS AGAIN FOR
05:54:32PM THE OPPORTUNITY.
05:54:38PM >> I FORGOT TO MENTION WE HAVE FIVE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT
05:54:40PM LETTERS THAT CAME IN A BIT AFTER THE DEADLINE.
05:54:43PM SO I HAVE TEN COPIES FOR YOU, MARTY.
05:54:46PM THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.
05:54:46PM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
05:54:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:54:56PM I JUST HAVE ONE.
05:54:59PM FRONTING CHANNELSIDE, TOWER TWO.
05:55:04PM ONLY NINE FOOT TO THE SIDEWALK.
05:55:09PM WHAT IS THE WIDEST WIDTH ON THE SIDEWALK OR THE FRONTAGE TO
05:55:15PM THE SIDEWALK.
05:55:16PM >> 15 FEET.
05:55:17PM IN CASES THERE FOLLOW-UP HAVE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER TO COME AND
05:55:22PM DISCUSS THE FOOTPRINT.
05:55:24PM >> ARI CENTRON.
05:55:34PM 200 FRANKLIN.
05:55:36PM WE MOVED OFFICES.
05:55:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TOWER TWO, FRONTING ON CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
05:55:40PM I SEE DOWN THERE THE VERY SOUTH END, NINE FOOT.
05:55:44PM THE FRONT IS TO THE SIDEWALK.
05:55:46PM WHERE IS THE REST OF THE --
05:55:49PM >> I HAVE A -- BEAR WITH ME FOR TWO SECONDS.
05:55:58PM SO PER CODE, A STREETSCAPE MINIMUM.
05:56:07PM AT ITS WIDEST 15-FEET ACTIVATION ALONG CHANNELSIDE AND NINE
05:56:14PM FEET AT ITS MINIMUM.
05:56:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I SEE THAT -- I DIDN'T MEAN -- I SAW THAT.
05:56:19PM BUT THAT IS THE REASON WHY.
05:56:21PM I AM GOING TO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
05:56:26PM SO LET'S HOPE IT STAYS THAT WAY.
05:56:29PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:56:31PM >> THAT IS OUR INTENT.
05:56:32PM THANK YOU.
05:56:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
05:56:36PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:56:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: LEGAL CAN CUT ME OFF IF I CAN'T ASK THIS
05:56:40PM QUESTION.
05:56:41PM THE WAY IT LOOKS ONE TOWER IS SHORTER THAN THE OTHER.
05:56:43PM I WONDER WHY.
05:56:44PM IS IT BECAUSE OF CODE OR FAA OR WHAT THAT BOTH OF THEM ARE
05:56:48PM NOT HIGH.
05:56:49PM AND HOW FAR ARE YOU FROM THE FAA GUIDELINES?
05:56:54PM WOULD FAA ALLOWED YOU TO GO HIGHER?
05:56:58PM >> THE SECOND TOWER COULD BE HIGHER, BUT THIS PROGRAM IS
05:57:01PM WHAT ALLOWS THE TWO BUILDINGS TO COEXIST BEST FROM A VIEW
05:57:05PM AND DESIGN PERSPECTIVE AND ALLOWS US TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT
05:57:08PM AMENITY SPACE BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM.
05:57:09PM AND ALSO WHAT MATCHES THE BUILDABLE F.A.R.
05:57:14PM THE SHORTER TOWER VERSUS THE LARGER TOWER MAXES OUT WHAT WE
05:57:18PM CAN BUILD ON THE SITE.
05:57:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
05:57:20PM THANK YOU.
05:57:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM
05:57:25PM COUNCIL?
05:57:26PM ANYONE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO THIS?
05:57:39PM ALL YOURS.
05:57:39PM >> HELLO, KEN SALTENBERG, E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
05:57:44PM TWO BLOCKS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT HERE.
05:57:46PM WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS IS A WONDERFUL PROJECT FOR THE
05:57:48PM CHANNEL DISTRICT IN A LOT OF WAYS AND THE FIRST ONE THAT I
05:57:52PM KNOW OF THAT HAS BEEN BUILT IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT THAT
05:57:55PM ADDRESSES THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUE AND RESERVES A SUBSTANTIAL
05:58:00PM AMOUNT OF UNITS FOR WORK FORCE HOUSING.
05:58:02PM SOMETHING TO BE ENCOURAGED -- I HAVE IDEA TO FURTHER
05:58:06PM ENCOURAGE THAT WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT LATER BUT HERE TO
05:58:09PM TALK OF THIS PROJECT.
05:58:10PM THE DESIGN ELEMENTS AND WHAT THESE FOLKS WANT TO DO IS
05:58:15PM SOMETHING WE CERTAINLY WANT IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
05:58:17PM THANK YOU.
05:58:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:58:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE, BUT FOR THE RECORD TELL
05:58:22PM THE PUBLIC A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR EXPERIENCE.
05:58:24PM >> MY COMPANY IS KATIE KELLER.
05:58:27PM WE HAVE A SISTER COMPANY MERCURY ADVISORS AND WE HAVE BEEN
05:58:33PM DEVELOPING IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FOR NOW THE PAST 20
05:58:36PM YEARS.
05:58:36PM >> HI, MY NAME IS MADISON BAPTISTE.
05:58:40PM I AM CURRENTLY A STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
05:58:42PM THIS YEAR I AM A JUNIOR AND MY FIRST YEAR HAVING TO LIVE OFF
05:58:46PM CAMPUS.
05:58:46PM EACH YEAR SINCE I STARTED AT THE SCHOOL, MORE AND MORE
05:58:49PM FRESHMEN HAVE BEEN COMING EACH YEAR SO MAKES THE HOUSING
05:58:52PM EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE ON CAMPUS FORCING MOST UPPERCLASSMEN
05:58:59PM MOVE OFF IN MY CASE HAPPENED.
05:59:00PM UNFORTUNATELY MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE CLOSE TO THE
05:59:03PM SCHOOL AND IN DOWNTOWN ARE JUST WAY OVERPRICED FOR MOST
05:59:06PM PEOPLE MY AGE.
05:59:07PM AND I AM FORCED TO HAVE TO COMMUTE TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY
05:59:10PM MULTIPLE TIMES, WHETHER IT BE MY WORK COURSES OR MY
05:59:15PM PART-TIME JOB OR IN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ON CAMPUS THAT I
05:59:18PM HAVE TO COMMUTE TO SCHOOL VERY LATE AT NIGHT MULTIPLE TIMES
05:59:21PM A WEEK FOR MEETINGS.
05:59:23PM I THINK THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE A GREAT OPTION FOR STUDENTS
05:59:26PM BEING MORE AFFORDABLE AND BEING CLOSE TO THE CAMPUS BECAUSE
05:59:29PM GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO POSSIBLY WORK OR -- WALK OR
05:59:33PM TAKE PUBLIC TRANSIT AND A MUCH BETTER OPTION AND RELIEVE
05:59:38PM SOME STUDENTS AND FAMILY OF FINANCIAL STRESS.
05:59:41PM THANK YOU.
05:59:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT YEAR ARE YOU.
05:59:43PM >> I AM A JUNIOR THIS YEAR.
05:59:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TOO BAD THIS WON'T BE AROUND WHEN YOU
05:59:47PM GRADUATE.
05:59:48PM >> I WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO BENEFIT FROM IT.
05:59:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHILE YOU ARE STILL IN SCHOOL.
05:59:52PM >> THANK YOU.
05:59:55PM >> HOW IS IT GOING.
05:59:57PM MY NAME IS ROBERT EVANS.
05:59:59PM I WORK AT THE CRUNCH DOWN IN THE CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT.
06:00:02PM WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED TO ME, I THINK THIS WILL BE AN
06:00:05PM AWESOME OPPORTUNITY OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF THE LARGE
06:00:10PM MULTIFAMILY HOMES BEING IN THIS UNIT AND INFLUX OF
06:00:15PM BUSINESSES AROUND THE SURROUNDING AREA SUCH AS MY OWN
06:00:17PM BUSINESS AND I WORK BASED OFF OF THE PEOPLE THAT SIGN UP FOR
06:00:20PM A GYM.
06:00:20PM SO OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING ELSE IN THAT AREA WILL BENEFIT FROM
06:00:24PM IT.
06:00:24PM I THINK OBVIOUSLY BRINGING MORE PEOPLE TO THAT AREA IS GREAT
06:00:31PM JUST FOR EVERYBODY IN THAT AREA.
06:00:33PM I KNOW A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES INCLUDING POKE COMPANIES.
06:00:36PM A COUPLE OF BARS IN THE AREA.
06:00:38PM MANY GROCERY STORES.
06:00:40PM SO OBVIOUSLY JUST ANOTHER UNIT COMING THAT IS ALONG THE
06:00:47PM POINT OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
06:00:49PM I MOVED OUT TO TAMPA HAVING GARAGE WAIT FROM COLLEGE MYSELF.
06:00:52PM AND -- GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE MYSELF.
06:00:56PM AND THE PRICE OF LIVING WENT UP AND PIGGYBACKING ON HER
06:00:59PM POINT.
06:01:00PM COLLEGE STUDENTS TOO IG TO LIVE IN THIS AREA.
06:01:02PM YOUNG PROFESSIONALS ARE MOVING TO THIS AREA.
06:01:05PM AND I THINK IT IS GREAT.
06:01:07PM THE DENSITY OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND
06:01:12PM EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
06:01:12PM I THINK THAT IS AWESOME.
06:01:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:01:22PM ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
06:01:27PM ANYONE ONLINE?
06:01:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
06:01:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: 10%.
06:01:39PM TRUST AND VERIFY.
06:01:46PM EVERYBODY KNOWS I AM A BIG PROPONENT OF HOUSING.
06:01:49PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM CLEAR THAT IT IS GOING TO BE THE
06:01:55PM SECOND TIME WE POSSIBLY HAVE DONE THIS, CORRECT?
06:02:00PM >> CORRECT.
06:02:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW ARE WE SECURING AND MAKING SURE THA
06:02:05PM PERSON IS IN COMPLIANCE.
06:02:06PM I WANT TO KNOW.
06:02:08PM MISS WELLS?
06:02:15PM >>CATE WELLS: IF I MAY, CATE WELLS FOR THE RECORD.
06:02:17PM THE BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT IF YOU APPROVE THE REZONING
06:02:21PM TONIGHT, THE BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT WILL BE ON YOUR
06:02:24PM AGENDA FOR APPROVAL AT SECOND READING.
06:02:26PM IT SETS OUT ALL THE CONDITIONS THAT ENSURE THAT THE 54 UNITS
06:02:31PM THAT ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT
06:02:34PM THEY REMAIN AFFORDABLE FOR A PERIOD OF 30 YEARS.
06:02:39PM CERTAIN DOCUMENTS THAT WILL BE RECORDED AND BE OF TITLE.
06:02:43PM IF THE OWNERSHIP OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE TO CHANGE, THEY
06:02:46PM WILL BE ON NOTICE OF THAT REQUIREMENT.
06:02:47PM THERE ARE ANNUAL REPORTING REQUIREMENTS BACK TO HOUSING AND
06:02:51PM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
06:02:51PM THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF WITH HCD TO ALSO INSPECT
06:02:56PM AND ENSURE THAT THE UNITS ARE COMPLYING WITH THE TERMS OF
06:03:00PM THE BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT.
06:03:01PM SO A PRETTY LENGTHY AGREEMENT.
06:03:04PM IT IS ONE THAT WE WORKED ON OVER THE YEARS AND CONTINUED TO
06:03:08PM IMPROVE UPON BASICALLY TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE GOT COMPLIANCE
06:03:11PM WITH THOSE TERMS.
06:03:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
06:03:17PM I WILL ASK BECAUSE THE PUBLIC IS LISTENING.
06:03:21PM A SITUATION HERE IN TAMPA.
06:03:22PM A LOT OF UNITS OVER THERE, BUT WE ARE AT A STARTING POINT
06:03:25PM AND I AM HAPPY THAT THE DEVELOPER IS TRYING TO SEE WHAT
06:03:28PM TAMPA IS TRYING TO DO.
06:03:29PM I AM GRACIOUS TO THAT.
06:03:31PM I WISH THERE WERE MORE, BUT IT IS A START.
06:03:34PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ABSOLUTELY, COUNCIL.
06:03:38PM IN ADDITION, THERE IS AN ADDITION ON THE SITE PLAN, A NOTE
06:03:44PM ON THE SITE PLAN AND MAKES THE NOTATION OF THE BONUS
06:03:47PM AGREEMENT AND THE REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE IT.
06:03:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:03:52PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:03:54PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:03:55PM YOU ARE WELCOME.
06:04:00PM WE HAVE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:04:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:04:04PM I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT ON ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
06:04:10PM CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
06:04:14PM VICINITY OF 1242 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE AND 629 AND 635 NORTH
06:04:18PM 12th STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, CD CHANNEL DISTRICT 2
06:04:25PM TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL,
06:04:31PM STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE.
06:04:33PM STAFF REPORTS FINDS IT CONSISTENT.
06:04:36PM I FIND IT IN COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE GOALS, OBJECTIVES
06:04:41PM AND POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SPECIFICALLY LAND
06:04:44PM USE POLICIES 8.14.1 AND 8.14.2, AS WELL AS NEW HOUSING ON
06:04:50PM VACANT AND UNDER UTILIZED LAND AND THAT IS CONTRIBUTE WITH
06:04:54PM LAND USE POLICY 9.2.1 AND HOUSING POLICIES 1.3.1, 1.3.3 AND
06:05:01PM 1.3.4.
06:05:02PM COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 27-136 AS
06:05:09PM WELL AS THE REVISED OR THE REVISION SHEET THAT WE HAVE
06:05:12PM ATTACHED TO THIS.
06:05:13PM ALSO AS MENTIONED BY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS, THE 10% AND WHAT
06:05:20PM WE ARE NOW CALLING ATTAINABLE HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING
06:05:24PM WHERE WE KNOW THE DEMAND.
06:05:25PM WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY ALL OVER
06:05:28PM THE CITY AND IN THE PLACES THAT ARE PROSPERING SO THIS GIVES
06:05:32PM THAT OPPORTUNITY.
06:05:33PM THAT IS MY MOTION.
06:05:34PM AND ALSO REMEMBER, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION AFTER THIS.
06:05:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
06:05:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I ADDED THE REVISION SHEET.
06:05:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WILL COME BACK FOR ADOPTION SECOND READING.
06:05:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:05:50PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:05:51PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:05:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:05:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:05:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:05:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
06:05:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:05:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:06:00PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT.
06:06:03PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION NOVEMBER 3, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
06:06:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION AS WELL.
06:06:10PM AT SECOND READING.
06:06:11PM OKAY.
06:06:12PM SORRY.
06:06:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:06:14PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, REZ-22-94.
06:06:20PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
06:06:27PM COUNCIL, ITEM NUMBER 11 IS REZ-22-94 FOR THE PROPERTY
06:06:35PM LOCATED 2211 NORTH 65th STREET.
06:06:38PM THE APPLICANT IS JOSE SAAVEDRA, AND THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE
06:06:43PM THE PROPERTY FROM RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO IG,
06:06:50PM INDUSTRIAL GENERAL AND TURN IT OVER TO EMILY AND GIVE HER
06:06:52PM PRESENTATION.
06:06:53PM AND THEN I WILL COME BACK AND GIVE MY PRESENTATION.
06:07:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, PLEASE.
06:07:08PM >>EMILY PHALEN: EMILY PHALEN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
06:07:11PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL PLANNING
06:07:14PM DISTRICT AND EAST SIDE COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:07:16PM THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS LOCATED 1.18 MILES WEST OF THE
06:07:21PM SUBJECT SITE AT EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE AND NORTH 50th STREET.
06:07:25PM THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY 0.33 MILES NORTHEAST OF
06:07:32PM THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN LEVEL D
06:07:35PM EVACUATION ZONE.
06:07:36PM THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT HERE.
06:07:41PM OUTLINED IN PURPLE.
06:07:43PM LOCATED SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF EAST BROADWAY AVENUE
06:07:47PM AND NORTH 65th STREET.
06:07:50PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS ALSO SOUTH OF EAST COLUMBUS AVENUE,
06:07:53PM WHICH IS A TRANSIT CORRIDOR.
06:07:56PM THE SURROUNDING AREA HAS COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES
06:08:00PM ALONG EAST BROADWAY AND EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
06:08:03PM TO THE SOUTH AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ARE RESIDENTIAL
06:08:06PM USES AND VACANT LAND.
06:08:07PM THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
06:08:14PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE OUTLINED IN THE REDDISH COLOR THAT
06:08:18PM IS TRANSITIONAL USE-24 DESIGNATION AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS
06:08:24PM SURROUNDED BY TRANSITIONAL USE-24.
06:08:27PM FURTHER TO THE EAST AND ALSO OVER HERE IN THE WEST THAT
06:08:33PM IS HI, LAND USE DESIGNATION.
06:08:36PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND
06:08:40PM NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:08:42PM PARCELS TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ARE ZONED FOR
06:08:45PM COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES.
06:08:47PM WHILE THERE ARE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNITS TO THE
06:08:51PM NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE PARCEL, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
06:08:55PM REQUIRES COMMERCIAL USES TO BE BUFFERED FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL
06:08:58PM DEVELOPMENT.
06:08:59PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROMOTES COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND
06:09:03PM REDEVELOPMENT TO SUSTAIN STABLE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ENCOURAGE
06:09:06PM THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC HEALTH OF THE CITY AND DISCOURAGES
06:09:10PM RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT NEAR INDUSTRIALLY ZONED PARCELS.
06:09:13PM GIVEN THE PRESENCE.
06:09:16PM INDUSTRIAL GENERAL AND COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING TO THE
06:09:19PM EAST AND NORTH OF THE CAN SUBJECT SITE, THE PROPOSED
06:09:23PM INDUSTRIAL GENERAL ZONING SUPPORTS POLICY DIRECTION BY
06:09:26PM DISCOURAGING THE POTENTIAL OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
06:09:29PM THE REQUEST WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT IS
06:09:33PM ECONOMICALLY SOUND BY ENCOURAGING INFILL DEVELOPMENT ON
06:09:36PM VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED PARCELS.
06:09:39PM DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF INDUSTRIAL GENERAL PARCELS IN THE
06:09:42PM IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING AREA, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS
06:09:45PM THE REQUEST COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING
06:09:48PM AREA AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
06:09:52PM ANTICIPATED UNDER TRANSITIONAL USE-24.
06:09:54PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
06:09:55PM DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
06:09:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
06:10:02PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
06:10:04PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:10:07PM AND I HAVE THE ZONING AERIAL FOR THERE ARE PROPERTY.
06:10:10PM SO IS THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED HERE IN RED.
06:10:17PM THIS IS 65th STREET.
06:10:20PM AND JUST TO ORIENT YOU ON THIS MAP, THIS IS BROADWAY IN 66th
06:10:24PM STREET AND THE SITE THAT IS LOCATED HERE IN THE RED.
06:10:27PM AND THAT SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
06:10:30PM IT HAS A LOT AREA 5163 SQUARE FEET.
06:10:35PM AS YOU ARE AWARE, THIS AREA, WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS
06:10:38PM PART OF -- OF THE CITY, WHEN YOU ARE ALONG BROADWAY AND
06:10:43PM COLUMBUS EAST, YOU HAVE THAT MIXTURE OF INDUSTRIAL USES.
06:10:47PM YOU HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL THAT IS THERE.
06:10:49PM AND YOU EVEN HAVE SOME INDUSTRIAL USES THAT HAVE
06:10:53PM HISTORICALLY BEEN USED ON RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY.
06:10:56PM SO IN THE CASE OF WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
06:11:00PM YOU SEE THE MAJORITY OF THE AREA IS ZONED RS-50.
06:11:04PM AS YOU ARE ALONG THE CORRIDOR ALONG BROADWAY.
06:11:07PM YOUR COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND INDUSTRIAL GENERAL ZONING
06:11:10PM DISTRICTS.
06:11:11PM AND THEN HERE ARE PICTURE CAN OF THE SITE.
06:11:15PM THAT IS THE SITE CURRENTLY.
06:11:21PM THIS IS ALSO ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE THAT I WENT OUT THE
06:11:26PM OTHER DAY AND TOOK IT.
06:11:28PM THIS IS SOUTH OF THE SITE.
06:11:31PM SO THIS IS ADJACENT.
06:11:33PM ONE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE THAT IS ON THAT BLOCK.
06:11:35PM THIS IS THE VIEW.
06:11:39PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH.
06:11:42PM AND THAT IS ON 65th STREET.
06:11:46PM THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE, SO THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET.
06:11:50PM THIS IS NORTHWEST, SO IS THE PICTURE I JUST SHOWED YOU WAS
06:11:56PM HERE AND THIS IS THE SITE THAT IS ON THE RIGHT OF THE
06:11:59PM PICTURE OFF THE SCREEN.
06:12:00PM AND THEN THIS IS FURTHER NORTH AS YOU ARE HEADED UP TOWARD
06:12:05PM BROADWAY.
06:12:06PM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
06:12:12PM REQUEST AND FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT.
06:12:14PM AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL.
06:12:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK?
06:12:21PM THANK YOU.
06:12:21PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU.
06:12:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PETITIONER.
06:12:24PM >> I AM JOSE SAAVEDRA.
06:12:34PM I BUY THE PROPERTY FOR PARKING THE TRUCK -- I HAVE A SMALL
06:12:39PM BUSINESS THAT DOES INSTALLATIONS.
06:12:42PM WE CAN'T PARK TRUCKS AT MY HOUSE WITH THE SIGN JOSE
06:12:46PM APPLIANCES.
06:12:47PM SO WE USE IT JUST FOR PARKING.
06:12:49PM AND WHATEVER I HAVE TO DO THERE.
06:12:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR --
06:12:58PM >> YEAH, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY.
06:12:59PM SHE SAID EVERYTHING.
06:13:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE
06:13:04PM PETITIONER?
06:13:05PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:13:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT ABOUT THE AUDIENCE?
06:13:08PM ARE THEY FOR --
06:13:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS GOING TO GET US FIRST.
06:13:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE AUDIENCE.
06:13:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOMENTO.
06:13:16PM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO --
06:13:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:13:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:13:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
06:13:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
06:13:27PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:13:29PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:13:31PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:13:32PM WHO DO WE HAVE?
06:13:33PM WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:13:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
06:13:36PM FILE NUMBER REZ-22-94, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
06:13:41PM READING CONSIDERATION.
06:13:42PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
06:13:47PM 2211 NORTH 65th STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
06:13:51PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
06:13:54PM CLASSIFICATION RS-50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY TO IG,
06:13:59PM INDUSTRIAL GENERAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:14:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
06:14:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT WILL ALLOW FOR
06:14:09PM DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMPARABLE TO THE SURROUNDING USES AND
06:14:12PM IS CONSISTENT WITH THE WIDE RANGE OF USES ALLOWED UNDER THE
06:14:15PM TRANSITIONAL USE-24 DESIGNATION.
06:14:18PM THE PROPOSED ZONING CATEGORY IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE
06:14:21PM WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE SURROUNDING
06:14:24PM AREA.
06:14:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
06:14:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:14:29PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:14:31PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:14:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:14:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:14:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
06:14:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:14:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:14:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:14:43PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY SECOND READING -- WITH
06:14:48PM VIERA BEING ABSENT.
06:14:49PM SECOND A READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD NOVEMBER 3, 2022
06:14:53PM AT 9:30 A.M.
06:14:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:14:55PM >> THANK YOU.
06:14:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR A LONG NIGHT.
06:15:01PM LET'S GO TO COMMISSIONERS' REPORTS.
06:15:08PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:15:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: NONE, THANK YOU.
06:15:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, SIR, THANK YOU.
06:15:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
06:15:14PM ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN
06:15:18PM 2020, 106,515 CRIMES OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WERE REPORTED TO
06:15:25PM FLORIDA LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES RESULTING IN -- IN 63,217
06:15:29PM ARRESTS.
06:15:30PM ADVOCATES CREATED 150,799 TAILORED SAFETY PLANS AND PROVIDED
06:15:40PM TO HE TALL OF 191,451 HOURS OF ADVOCACY AND COUNSELING
06:15:46PM SERVICES AND RECEIVED 73,221 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOTLINE OF
06:15:51PM INDIVIDUALS SEEKING EMERGENCY SERVICES, INFORMATION AND
06:15:55PM EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE.
06:15:56PM MANY MORE SURVIVORS ARE NOT REPORTING THEIR ABUSERS TO THE
06:15:59PM POLICE OR ACCESSING SERVICES AT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SERVICES
06:16:03PM DUE TO REASONS SUCH AS SHAME, FEAR OR BEING PREVENTED DOING
06:16:07PM SO BY THEIR ABUSERS.
06:16:09PM FOR THIS REASON, WE MAY NEVER KNOW THE TRUE EXTENT OF ABUSE
06:16:12PM IN OUR COUNTRY AND STATE.
06:16:13PM OCTOBER IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH AND I WOULD
06:16:17PM LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRING A DRAFT RESOLUTION REGARDING
06:16:20PM DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ON OCTOBER 20, 2022.
06:16:23PM >> SECOND.
06:16:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:16:27PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:16:29PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:16:31PM THANK YOU.
06:16:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S IT.
06:16:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:16:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOTHING.
06:16:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:16:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
06:16:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
06:16:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU RAISED EARLIER THE
06:16:53PM QUESTION OF RULES OF PROCEDURE.
06:16:55PM I AM WONDERING, COUNCIL IN THE PAST HAD MEETINGS IN THE
06:16:58PM MASCOT AND ASSIST CITY IN THE CONVENIENT TIME EITHER BEFORE
06:17:02PM A MEETING OR ON A SEPARATE DAY.
06:17:04PM REALLY HARD TO PLAN THESE THINGS.
06:17:06PM THE QUESTION IS -- OR DOING IT DURING A MEETING.
06:17:09PM BUT THE ADVANTAGE OF DOING IT THE OTHER WAY IT IS MORE
06:17:11PM INFORMAL.
06:17:12PM THROUGH A NOTICED PUBLIC MEETING BUT JUST NOT TELEVISED AND
06:17:16PM COUNCIL CAN TALK WITHOUT FACING FORWARD.
06:17:20PM SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE CHAIR'S DIRECTION OR WHAT IS
06:17:25PM COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IN HOW WE ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT MR.
06:17:28PM CHAIRMAN WISHES TO HAVE ADDRESSED AND THE CHANGES THAT NEED
06:17:31PM TO BE MADE?
06:17:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:17:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD SUGGEST -- I DON'T THINK A LONG
06:17:37PM DISCUSSION BUT 8:30 BEFORE OUR NEXT 9 A.M. MEETING OR NEXT
06:17:41PM REGULAR MEETING.
06:17:42PM AND PERHAPS WE DO IT DOWNSTAIRS IN THE -- IN THE MASCOT
06:17:46PM ROOM.
06:17:48PM AND JUST DISCUSS THE -- THE ORDER OF BUSINESS SO WE CAN
06:17:52PM SPEED THINGS ALONG.
06:17:53PM I KNOW WE SPENT THREE AND A HALF HOURS THIS MORNING BEFORE
06:17:57PM WE REALLY GOT INTO THE AGENDA.
06:17:58PM AND I MEAN, THAT -- THAT IS FAIR ENOUGH.
06:18:03PM WE DON'T HAVE TO SET A SPECIAL CALL AND COME IN ON A SPECIAL
06:18:07PM DAY.
06:18:07PM WE ARE ALREADY HERE OR 8:15 IF IT IS NECESSARY.
06:18:10PM IT SHOULDN'T BE A LENGTHY DISCUSSION.
06:18:12PM I AM UP AT 5:00 IN THE MORNING.
06:18:16PM WE CAN DO 5:30.
06:18:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE LUCKY I'M HERE AT 9:00.
06:18:20PM [LAUGHTER]
06:18:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FORGIVE ME IF I AM WRONG, I THOUGHT THIS WAS
06:18:25PM OUR HOUSE.
06:18:26PM I THOUGHT -- THOUGHT THIS WAS OUR HOUSE.
06:18:29PM I FEEL WE HAVE FAR TOO LONG OF DISCUSSIONS ON THINGS THAT
06:18:33PM SHOULD ONLY TAKE 15 MINUTES.
06:18:34PM BUT THAT IS JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION.
06:18:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 8:30 IN THE MASCOT BEFORE THE REGULAR
06:18:40PM COUNCIL MEETING.
06:18:42PM WE WILL BE HERE ALREADY.
06:18:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HALF HOUR WITH THIS COUNCIL?
06:18:46PM I GUESS WE CAN DO IT.
06:18:47PM I WILL DO WHATEVER -- WHATEVER COUNCIL WISHES.
06:18:51PM THING IS, CLEARLY, THERE ARE THINGS THAT I AM SURE
06:18:58PM COUNCILMEMBERS WANT TO ADDRESS AND CERTAINLY THE CHAIR WANTS
06:19:00PM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE EFFICIENTLY RUN MEETINGS AND THERE ARE
06:19:05PM CHANGES -- FOR INSTANCE, INTO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE WILL GO
06:19:09PM WITH GUIDELINES.
06:19:10PM AND THERE IS A DETERMINATION OF WHETHER YOU WANT TO KEEP
06:19:14PM EVEN REMOTELY WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
06:19:17PM BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE IT LOOKS
06:19:22PM LIKE AND THE SAME PEOPLE LATELY.
06:19:24PM AND THERE IS A RETURN TO NORMALCY.
06:19:27PM SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE STAFFED TO RUN THESE MEETINGS
06:19:31PM VIRTUALLY AND COUNCIL'S PLEASURE HOW YOU WANT TO CONTINUE.
06:19:34PM BUT THAT -- TOOK ME MORE THAN A HALF HOUR TO SAY THAT.
06:19:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:19:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
06:19:43PM WHY ARE WE MEETING?
06:19:44PM I AM CONFUSED.
06:19:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW EITHER.
06:19:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ME EITHER.
06:19:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S SEND THIS CONVERSATION -- WE ARE
06:19:52PM SPENDING TOO MUCH DAMN TIME ON IT NOW.
06:19:54PM LET'S HAVE THIS CONVERSATION NOW.
06:19:56PM INSTEAD OF HAVING MEETING AFTER A MEETING.
06:19:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING TO ADDRESS
06:20:03PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:20:03PM PRESENTLY, WE SCHEDULE HEARINGS AT 9:30 IN THE MORNING AND
06:20:07PM PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER AND ON THE AGENDA.
06:20:11PM FOR YEARS, WE HAVE TAKEN THOSE SOME TIME AFTER 9:30.
06:20:15PM THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN GETTING THEM NOT ONLY PAST LUNCH BUT
06:20:19PM 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON AND I HAVE BEEN HEARING FEEDBACK.
06:20:22PM A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO TALK TO COUNCILMEMBERS.
06:20:25PM THEY TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE, ME BEING ONE OF THEM.
06:20:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, SINCE YOU ADDRESSED ME ON THAT.
06:20:30PM IF YOU RECALL WE CHANGE IT TO HAVE ALL THESE COMMENDATION ON
06:20:35PM A SPECIAL DAY AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THESE FOUR OR FIVE
06:20:38PM COMMENDATIONS ARE COMING BACK DURING REGULAR COUNCIL SEATING
06:20:42PM THAT IS TAKING TWO HOURS TO DO VERSUS WHEN WE CHANGED IT
06:20:46PM ORIGINALLY.
06:20:46PM WHEN I WAS A CHAIRMAN.
06:20:47PM MR. MANISCALCO CHANGED IT.
06:20:48PM ALL THAT STUFF.
06:20:49PM ON THAT OFF DAY OF TUESDAY AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THAT.
06:20:53PM NOW, YEAH, BRING IN ALL THE SPECIAL TURKEYS AND BRING ALL
06:20:57PM THIS OTHER STUFF BACK AND THESE OTHER THINGS.
06:20:59PM YEAH, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A LONG COUNCIL MEETING AND
06:21:02PM PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SIT THERE AND WAIT WHICH I DON'T KNOW
06:21:05PM WHY YOU SCHEDULE A 9:30 MEETING OPENING HEARINGS WHEN YOU
06:21:08PM KNOW DARN WELL WE NEVER OPEN THINGS AT 9:30 EVER.
06:21:11PM LIKE REALLY -- WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
06:21:14PM IT NEEDS TO BE TWO DAYS BECAUSE NO WAY IN THE WORLD CAN WE
06:21:18PM DO HEARINGS AT 9:30.
06:21:19PM IT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN UNLESS YOU GO BACK THEWAY IT WAS
06:21:22PM AND WE HAVE NOTHING AND YOU START THOSE HEARINGS AT 9:30.
06:21:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK ONCE YOU REALIZE THE PROBLEM, THE
06:21:29PM PROBLEM WILL GET BETTER.
06:21:30PM I BELIEVE THAT.
06:21:32PM BY THE TIME WE GET TO -- WE SPEND HALF A DAY DISCUSSING
06:21:37PM SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING WHAT ARE THEY TALKING
06:21:39PM ABOUT.
06:21:39PM NOT NOBODY'S FAULT.
06:21:41PM DON'T -- I AM AS GUILTY AS ANYBODY ELSE, BUT I DON'T THINK I
06:21:44PM WANT TO COME IN FOR HALF AN HOUR OR AN HOUR ON A WEDNESDAY
06:21:47PM OR BEFORE TO COME BACK TO THIS SAME MEETING.
06:21:50PM WE ARE -- IF SOMEBODY BRINGS A QUESTION, GOING TO DISCUSS
06:21:54PM WHAT WE DISCUSSED BACK UPSTAIRS AGAIN.
06:21:56PM GUARANTEE THAT.
06:21:58PM JUST HUMAN NATURE.
06:22:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.
06:22:02PM THIS MORNING LISTENING TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
06:22:05PM WE FELT LIKE WE HAD TO RESPOND.
06:22:06PM AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO HAVE ONE OF
06:22:10PM OUR AIDES TO GRAB THOSE PEOPLE SO WE ARE NOT HAVING TO
06:22:14PM RESPOND TO THE DAIS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO.
06:22:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S EXACTLY IT.
06:22:19PM WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO.
06:22:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE WALK AWAY FROM THAT.
06:22:25PM AN AIDE -- MAYBE THEY ROTATED TO GRAB THAT PERSON AND
06:22:29PM ADDRESS IT SO WE DIDN'T DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT FROM HERE.
06:22:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE PROBLEM IS SOMEBODY WILL SPEAK AND
06:22:36PM WANT TO SEE ON TELEVISION BECAUSE SOMEBODY ASKED THEM TO
06:22:39PM COME AND DO SOMETHING.
06:22:40PM YOU WEREN'T THERE.
06:22:42PM I WAS.
06:22:43PM THEY PULLED ME ASIDE.
06:22:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST SAY IF THE CHAIR FEELS THAT WE --
06:22:48PM THAT HE HAS ITEMS THAT WE SHOULD DISCUSS, I AM HAPPY TO MEET
06:22:51PM WHENEVER HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT.
06:22:53PM I WOULD ASK THAT AN AGENDA BE PRESENTED IN ADVANCE SO WE
06:22:58PM KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
06:22:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PICK A DATE AND A TIME.
06:23:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET'S TABLE THIS THING.
06:23:06PM [INAUDIBLE]
06:23:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY BELIEVE YOU ARE AN AIRLINE AND
06:23:18PM ALWAYS LATE, THAT'S ALL.
06:23:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T KNOW, IS EVERYBODY LEAVING?
06:23:26PM ALL I NEED IS THREE HERE.
06:23:28PM THE REST CAN GO.
06:23:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
06:23:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:23:33PM OCTOBER IS ITALIAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH AND WE HONOR THE
06:23:38PM ACHIEVEMENTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF ITALIAN IMMIGRANTS.
06:23:42PM THIS WEEKEND, THE ITALIAN CLUB WILL CELEBRATE WITH FOOD,
06:23:47PM MUSIC AND MARKET AND WILL OFFER THE CLUB -- TOURS OF CLUB
06:23:52PM BUILT IN 1918 BY THE SAME ARCHITECTS THAT BUILT CITY HALL
06:23:55PM THREE YEARS EARLIER.
06:23:56PM SO, PLEASE, COME AND SEE THE EVENTS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE
06:24:01PM PUBLIC STARTING TOMORROW AT WWW.ITALIAN/CLUB.ORG.
06:24:08PM I MOTION TO PRESENT COMMENDATION TO THE ITALIAN CLUB IN
06:24:13PM CELEBRATION --
06:24:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
06:24:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
06:24:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE ITALIAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH TO BE
06:24:19PM PRESENTED OFF-SITE THIS WEEKEND -- THIS WEEKEND'S
06:24:22PM CELEBRATION.
06:24:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN SIT ROW AND
06:24:27PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:24:28PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:24:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT TIME IS THE CELEBRATION?
06:24:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THREE DIFFERENT DAYS.
06:24:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOW I KNOW IT IS ITALIAN.
06:24:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SICILIAN.
06:24:41PM FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
06:24:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN CITRO AND SECOND BY
06:24:48PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:24:49PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:24:50PM OPPOSED.
06:24:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:24:52PM I HAVE A REQUEST.
06:24:54PM I KNOW THAT THERE ARE TWO COUNCILMEMBERS GOING TO THE FRA
06:24:59PM NEXT THURSDAY, AND IT IS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION.
06:25:03PM FLORIDA REDEVELOPMENT -- THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
06:25:15PM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PHYSICAL
06:25:20PM QUORUM HERE THURSDAY.
06:25:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL BE HERE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:25:24PM I AM NOT GOING TO DRIVE BACK --
06:25:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM NOT ASKING YOU TOO.
06:25:28PM I AM ASKING THE OTHER FIVE.
06:25:29PM THE OTHER FIVE.
06:25:30PM AT LEAST I CAN HAVE FOUR HERE.
06:25:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM COMING BACK.
06:25:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GLAD YOU MENTIONED IT.
06:25:38PM I THOUGHT IT WAS FLORIDA RETIREMENT ASSOCIATION.
06:25:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE WILL HAVE
06:25:44PM A PHYSICAL QUORUM HERE.
06:25:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL BE HERE.
06:25:48PM TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE.
06:25:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
06:25:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
06:25:54PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:25:56PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:25:57PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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