CRA SPECIAL CALL MEETING
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 19, 2022
9:00 A.M.
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9:07:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD MORNING.
9:07:48AM I CALL THIS CRA SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO ORDER.
9:07:56AM LET'S SEE, DO WE HAVE AN INVOCATION THIS MORNING?
9:08:02AM NO.
9:08:03AM OKAY.
9:08:03AM MOVING ALONG.
9:08:06AM LET'S SEE, COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
9:08:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:08:14AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
9:08:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:08:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:08:17AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:08:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA
9:08:23AM WILL BE HERE AT 9:30.
9:08:25AM TRAFFIC IS THICK TODAY.
9:08:26AM SO, MR. MASSEY, DO YOU WANT TO REVIEW THE RULES PERTAINING
9:08:35AM TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND PARTICIPATION IN THE MEETING TODAY?
9:08:39AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THIS IS A SPECIAL CALL MEETING OF THE CITY
9:08:41AM OF TAMPA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OR THE CRA, AT
9:08:45AM 9:00 A.M. ON OCTOBER 19, 2022 AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER
9:08:48AM ROOMS 107 THROUGH 109, 333 SOUTH FRANKLIN STREET HERE IN
9:08:54AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTERVIEWING THE FINAL
9:08:56AM CANDIDATES FOR THE POSITION OF CRA DIRECTOR.
9:08:59AM THIS PUBLIC MEETING PERTAINS SOLELY TO THE PUBLIC INTERVIEWS
9:09:02AM OF THE FINAL FOUR CANDIDATES.
9:09:04AM THE SELECTION OF THE
9:09:04AM CRA DIRECTOR WILL OCCUR ONE WEEK FROM TODAY ON WEDNESDAY,
9:09:07AM OCTOBER 26, 2022, AT ANOTHER SPECIAL CALL ME OF THE CRA AT
9:09:13AM THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
9:09:14AM THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING IN PERSON OR VIEW
9:09:18AM IT BY CABLE TELEVISION ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640 OR FRONTIER
9:09:20AM CHANNEL 15 OR VIA INTERNET, WWW.TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
9:09:25AM THE PUBLIC IS ALSO ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING
9:09:28AM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER
9:09:31AM SPEAKER, EITHER HERE IN PERSON AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION
9:09:33AM CENTER OR VIRTUALLY BY WAY OF COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY
9:09:37AM OR CMT.
9:09:38AM HOWEVER, THE USE OF CMT DOES REQUIRE PREREGISTRATION WITH
9:09:42AM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
9:09:43AM DIRECTIONS FOR PREREGISTRATION ARE INCLUDED IN THE NOTICE OF
9:09:45AM THE MEETING AND ON THE AGENDA.
9:09:47AM CAN I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION WAIVING THE CRA STANDARD RULES OF
9:09:50AM PROCEDURES TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT FOR PARTICIPATION BY CMT.
9:09:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION BY GUDES AND SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
9:10:01AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:10:02AM OKAY.
9:10:02AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:10:03AM MS. TRAVIS.
9:10:03AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD MORNING, BOARD MEMBERS.
9:10:10AM NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND DOMESTIC
9:10:13AM OPPORTUNITY AND INTERIM CRA DIRECTOR.
9:10:15AM THANK YOU FOR SCHEDULING THIS SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO DO THE
9:10:19AM PUBLIC INTERVIEW OF THE CANDIDATES.
9:10:21AM WE DO HAVE A MEET AND GREET SOCIAL.
9:10:25AM THERE IS NO INTERVIEWING OF THE CANDIDATES THAT WILL TAKE
9:10:28AM PLACE THIS EVENING.
9:10:29AM THE SOCIAL WILL BE HERE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, NEXT DOOR
9:10:32AM IN ROOMS 105 AND 106 THAT WILL TAKE PLACE AT 6:00 P.M.
9:10:37AM THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO GET TO KNOW THE
9:10:39AM CANDIDATES IN A SOCIAL SETTING. THERE WILL BE REFRESHMENTS
9:10:43AM PROVIDED THIS EVENING.
9:10:45AM ALSO, IF THERE'S ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT PARKED IN THE
9:10:48AM PARKING GARAGE, WE DO HAVE A CODE THAT WE CAN PAY FOR THEIR
9:10:52AM PARKING IF THEY CAME FOR THE MEETING TODAY.
9:10:56AM AND SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD FOR THE
9:11:00AM INTERVIEWS TODAY.
9:11:01AM IF YOU WANT THE CANDIDATES TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES PRIOR TO,
9:11:05AM OR WE CAN TAKE THEM IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER, TAKE EACH
9:11:09AM CANDIDATE.
9:11:10AM IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING.
9:11:11AM THE CANDIDATES ARE FREE TO SAY IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO, BUT WE
9:11:15AM WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK IF THEY WOULD LEAVE THE ROOM SO WE
9:11:18AM CAN INTERVIEW, YOU CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW THE
9:11:22AM CANDIDATES.
9:11:23AM THEY CAN THEN COME BACK, MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION, A LITTLE
9:11:27AM BACKGROUND, THEIR WORK EXPERIENCE, AND THEN OPEN IT UP TO
9:11:32AM ARE QUESTIONS FROM THE CRA BOARD.
9:11:35AM AT THAT TIME, WHEN THE CANDIDATES ARE FINISHED WITH THE
9:11:38AM QUESTIONS, THEY ARE FREE TO GO UNTIL THE SOCIAL THIS
9:11:42AM AFTERNOON AT 6:00 P.M.
9:11:44AM SO IF YOU LIKE THAT ORDER, THAT'S HOW I SUGGEST.
9:11:49AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT IN
9:11:51AM ADVANCE OF THE PUBLIC CANDIDATES AS THEY INTERVIEW THE
9:11:54AM CANDIDATES.
9:11:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN ASK A QUESTION?
9:12:02AM MS. TRAVIS, TONIGHT'S SOCIAL, HAVE ALL CAC BOARDS AND
9:12:08AM SUBCOMMITTEES BEEN NOTIFIED OF THIS MEET AN GREET?
9:12:12AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE INVITATION WAS
9:12:15AM SENT TO THE SUBCOMMITTEES BUT WAS A PUBLICLY NOTICED
9:12:18AM MEETING, AND WE DID SEND IT TO ALL THE CAC BOARD MEMBERS.
9:12:21AM BUT IF ANYONE FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE WANTED TO ATTEND, IT'S
9:12:26AM OPEN.
9:12:27AM ABSOLUTELY.
9:12:29AM GOOD?
9:12:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:12:32AM SO WE WILL BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:12:35AM ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TODAY?
9:12:43AM DO WE HAVE ONLINE?
9:12:45AM NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
9:12:46AM WELL, THEN, OKAY.
9:12:51AM WELCOME BACK.
9:12:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU RODE A BICYCLE.
9:12:57AM >> MY NAME IS NATHAN HAGAN.
9:13:01AM I'M NOT SUPER ENGAGED IN THE CRA PROCESS, BUT I JUST WANT TO
9:13:04AM EMPHASIZE AT THE INTERVIEW TODAY, THERE IS A ROLE THAT THE
9:13:08AM CRA HAS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THIS IS A MONUMENTAL
9:13:16AM CRISIS WE ARE FACING NOW THAT REQUIRES A GOVERNMENT RESPONSE
9:13:19AM AND THE ATTITUDE THAT ANY DIRECTOR WOULD HAVE TOWARDS
9:13:27AM ADDRESSING THIS CRISIS I WOULD BE VERY GRATEFUL.
9:13:32AM THANK YOU.
9:13:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:13:33AM >> GOOD MORNING. {}
9:13:39AM I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE.
9:13:40AM AT THIS POINT IN TIME, GETTING THE PLACEMENT OF A CRA
9:13:46AM DIRECTOR, AND FOR ME, IT'S A BIG DEAL BECAUSE IN THIS ROLE,
9:13:52AM SEEING WHERE TAMPA IS TODAY, AND WE KNOW WHAT IT IS, IN
9:13:55AM TERMS OF A CRA, BUT BEING IN THE TIME THAT WE ARE IN, SOME
9:14:01AM OF THE CRA BOARD MEMBERS LEARN THAT CRA AND IN FLORIDA, ALL
9:14:07AM OF THEM, HAVE ABOUT TEN YEARS, SO THERE'S A SENSE OF URGENCY
9:14:11AM WITH THIS NEW DIRECTOR, NOT JUST BECAUSE TAMPA IS A -- OF
9:14:18AM OUR COMMUNITY BUT BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE TEN YEARS TO DO
9:14:21AM WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE.
9:14:23AM SO WE HAVE SEEN A LACK OF EXPERIENCE, LACK OF CONFIDENCE,
9:14:25AM LACK OF POLITICAL WILL, LACK OF WILLINGNESS, WHAT THAT LOOKS
9:14:30AM LIKE, BUT THIS MUCH LAST DIRECTOR AND THE LAST STAFF, WHAT
9:14:35AM HAVE YOU, SO THIS NEW HIRE IS SO IMPORTANT THAT THEY HAVE
9:14:38AM THE WILL, THEY HAVE THE DESIRE, THEY HAVE THE COMPASSION,
9:14:41AM THEY HAVE PASSION, TO SEE TAMPA GROW AND HAVE AN ECONOMIC
9:14:45AM DEVELOPMENT ENGINE AND HOUSING AND APPROPRIATE, AFFORDABLE,
9:14:51AM NOT AFFORDABLE, MIXED, RETAIL, JUST A MIX OF COMMUNITY SO
9:14:56AM ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE WON'T BE ANY MORE CRA INVOLVEMENT.
9:14:59AM SO JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE CANDIDATES I KNOW THEY CAN DO
9:15:02AM IT.
9:15:03AM IT'S TOUGH BECAUSE WHICH ONE IS THE RIGHT ONE? BUT SOMEBODY
9:15:06AM THAT HAS ALL OF THAT IN ADDITION TO THE EXPERIENCE.
9:15:08AM AND THAT WOULD BE A COMPLEMENT TO THE LEADERSHIP, OF THE
9:15:13AM LEADERSHIP THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE, THAT YOU HAVE NICOLE
9:15:16AM TRAVIS, THAT BRINGS SUCCESSION OF LEADERSHIP TO TAMPA AS A
9:15:21AM WHOLE, BUT PARTICULARLY THE EAST TAMPA, AND WE WOULD HOPE
9:15:25AM THAT THE PERSON WOULD ALSO COMPLEMENT THAT STYLE OF
9:15:29AM LEADERSHIP SO THAT WE CAN BE, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO
9:15:33AM COMPLEMENT THAT WHERE WE ARE ALREADY.
9:15:35AM SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE STAFF.
9:15:39AM AND HAVE THE SKILLS THAT'S NECESSARY SO THEY ARE NOT OVER
9:15:42AM WORKED TRYING TO DEVELOP A NEW HIRE DIRECTOR AND BUILD UP
9:15:46AM THE STAFF.
9:15:47AM IT'S JUST SO IMPORTANT THAT THERE'S A SUPER URGENCY AND A
9:15:50AM LOT OF COURSE CORRECTION TO BRING US UP TO SPEED, LIKE ALL
9:15:53AM THE CRAs ARE MORE, BUT THIS ONE IS LIKE A SPECIAL NEEDS
9:15:56AM CHILD BECAUSE IT HAS SO MANY DIFFERENT FACETS OF DEVELOPMENT
9:16:00AM THAT IT NEEDS.
9:16:01AM SO WE JUST NEED SOMEBODY WITH THAT LEVEL AND THE RIGHT
9:16:05AM AMOUNT OF WILLINGNESS.
9:16:09AM SO I DON'T ENVY YOU FOR THIS TOUGH SELECTION BUT THAT'S ALL
9:16:14AM I HAVE TO SAME FOR THE CANDIDATE.
9:16:16AM THANK YOU.
9:16:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:16:19AM DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:16:21AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:16:28AM ALLISON HEWITT, RESIDENT OF EAST TAMPA, THIRD GENERATION.
9:16:33AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR MOVING ON THIS POSITION.
9:16:35AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE THIS.
9:16:37AM I AM ASKING THAT YOU CONSIDER WHEN YOU ARE CONSIDERING THE
9:16:40AM CANDIDATES, ONE, AS I LEARNED AT THE FRA CONFERENCE, WHEN
9:16:44AM THE EAST TAMPA, IF YOU VOTE TO EXTEND IT, ONLY HAS TEN MORE
9:16:49AM YEARS FOR THEIR LIFETIME TO BE A CRA.
9:16:52AM SO WE ARE HOPING THAT YOU SELECT SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS
9:16:56AM THAT THAT'S NOT A LONG TIME, TEN YEARS.
9:17:01AM IN POINT OF FACT IT HAS TAKEN US TWO YEARS TO GET TO THE
9:17:03AM POINT THAT WE CAN HAVE A HOMEOWNER OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM SO
9:17:08AM THAT'S TWO YEARS BEHIND.
9:17:09AM SO WE ARE ASKING THAT YOU CONSIDER FOR EAST TAMPA CRA
9:17:13AM SOMEONE WHO HAS THE TALENT AND THE KNOW-HOW TO BE ABLE TO
9:17:17AM IMPLEMENT PROJECTS, FOR THE OTHER CRA, CENTRAL PARK, AS THE
9:17:24AM STAFF'S WORKS COMES ALONG, IT IS A WONDERFUL PROJECT FOR THE
9:17:27AM AREA BUT SOMEONE WHO ALSO CAN COMMIT TO REMEMBERING THE
9:17:30AM OTHER DIVERSE ENTITIES THAT HELP MAKE THAT AREA THE HAITIAN
9:17:37AM COMMUNITY, ITALIAN COMMUNITY, AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, SO
9:17:41AM WE CAN MAKE SURE WE ARE DEVELOPING ALL AREAS OF THAT ARENA.
9:17:45AM AND FOR THOSE WHO DON'T -- THE POSTER CHILD OF WHY AND HOW A
9:17:52AM CRA WORKS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TRANSITION, THAT
9:17:57AM THEY DO IT IN A FAIR WAY AND COMPASSIONATE WAY FOR THOSE WHO
9:18:00AM ARE STILL IN THOSE AREAS WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE ENJOYED THE
9:18:03AM ROBUST AND EXTENSIVE BERTH OF DOWNTOWN AND CHANNELSIDE.
9:18:10AM SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN EASY DECISION.
9:18:13AM I HAVE SEEN SOME OF YOUR CHOICES, AND THEY HAVE A
9:18:16AM SIGNIFICANT SKILL SET, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN
9:18:22AM CHALLENGES IS HOW TO NAVIGATE THE CITY POLITICS AND THE CITY
9:18:28AM PROCESSES.
9:18:29AM SO SOMEONE TO UNDERSTAND AND TACTFULLY PUSH THINGS THROUGH,
9:18:38AM BECAUSE HOME OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB, IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS.
9:18:41AM IT'S BEEN JUST DRAGGING ALONG.
9:18:43AM SO SOMEONE WHO ALSO KNOWS HOW TO BALANCE THE PASSION FOR THE
9:18:46AM COMMUNITY AND EXPERTISE TO GO THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT
9:18:49AM PROCESS.
9:18:50AM SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR MOVING ON THIS.
9:18:54AM WE HAVE JUST A LIMITED TIME IN THE EAST TAMPA CRA
9:18:57AM ESPECIALLY, AND WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT YOU IN MOVING
9:19:00AM THE PROJECT FORWARD.
9:19:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:19:04AM ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?
9:19:08AM ANYBODY?
9:19:09AM AND NO ONE ELSE ONLINE.
9:19:10AM OKAY.
9:19:11AM >> I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT BOARD MEMBER CARLSON HAS
9:19:22AM JOINED US.
9:19:22AM THANK YOU.
9:19:24AM SO WITH THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT, I WOULD LIKE
9:19:28AM THE CANDIDATES IF THEY ARE WILLING TO EXCUSE THEMSELVES FROM
9:19:31AM THE ROOM, WE'LL START WITH JEFFREY BURTON, THEN GOING IN
9:19:35AM ALPHABETICAL ORDER BY LAST NAME.
9:19:37AM THE OTHER CANDIDATES CAN GO TO THE AREA THAT THEY WERE IN OR
9:19:41AM TO THE ROOM NEXT DOOR, OUT HERE, AND ESCORT THEM OUT IF THEY
9:19:47AM ARE WILLING TO GO.
9:19:48AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IT'S TRULY VOLUNTARY SO IF YOU WANT TO
9:19:53AM REMAIN, YOU CAN.
9:19:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CHAIR?
9:19:58AM THANK YOU.
9:19:59AM MS. TRAVIS, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER ON SHORT
9:20:02AM NOTICE.
9:20:02AM I KNOW IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING WITH ALL THE DUTIES YOU
9:20:05AM HAVE, AND SOME OF THE OTHER STAFF THAT YOU PULLED FROM THE
9:20:08AM ADMINISTRATORS, SOME OF THE EXECUTIVE AIDS TO DO THE
9:20:12AM INTERVIEWS, AND PUBLICLY SAY THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS
9:20:14AM TOGETHER IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
9:20:16AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ABSOLUTELY.
9:20:18AM IT'S OUR PLEASURE.
9:20:18AM WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS YOUR PROCESS TO HIRE A
9:20:23AM CRA DIRECTOR THAT IS THE RIGHT FIT.
9:20:26AM IT IS YOUR PROCESS.
9:20:28AM AND AT THE END OF WHATEVER THAT SELECTION IS, NEXT WEEK
9:20:32AM WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, AND WE CAN TALK THROUGH THAT.
9:20:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
9:20:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: BEFORE YOU START TO THAT, THE ACTUAL WORK,
9:20:43AM YOU KNOW, WE GAVE YOU THE GENERAL DIRECTION ON THE PROCESS,
9:20:46AM BUT YOU AND YOUR TEAM PUT TOGETHER AN INCREDIBLY
9:20:49AM PROFESSIONAL THOROUGH PROCESS.
9:20:51AM SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY, BECAUSE ALIS AND SOME OF YOUR
9:20:58AM OTHER STAFF MEMBERS SAT THROUGH EVERY INTERVIEW AND THAT WAS
9:21:01AM ALL VERY HELPFUL.
9:21:02AM THANK YOU TO YOUR WHOLE TEAM.
9:21:04AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:21:05AM AGAIN JUST A REMINDER FOR ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT DID PARK
9:21:09AM IN THE PARKING GARAGE IF YOU NEED A VOUCHER, THE VOUCHER
9:21:13AM CODE, COME SEE ME SO WE CAN WAIVE YOUR PARKING REQUIREMENT.
9:21:18AM JEFFREY?
9:21:20AM AND YOU CAN START BY INTRODUCING YOURSELF GIVING US SOME
9:21:23AM MORE HISTORY AND THEN OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
9:21:30AM >>JEFFREY BURTON: MY NAME IS THE JEFF BURTON.
9:21:32AM I HAVE BEEN A CRA DIRECTOR FOR OVER TEN YEARS, WITH TEN
9:21:35AM YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS A DIRECTOR.
9:21:38AM ALSO, FOUR YEARS AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OVER A CRA, AND THEN
9:21:43AM ALSO JUST ABOUT A YEAR WORKING HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:21:47AM WITH FOUR OF YOUR EIGHT CRAs.
9:21:49AM MY BACKGROUND, I WAS BORN IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA, IN MANATEE
9:21:52AM COUNTY.
9:21:55AM I ATTENDED SCHOOL LOCALLY, AND WENT TO USF FOR MY BACHELORS
9:21:59AM IN ECONOMICS, MASTERS IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, MY PH.D. AND
9:22:04AM SUSTAINABLE REDEVELOPMENT.
9:22:07AM OTHER THAN THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WILL BE HAPPY TO
9:22:09AM ANSWER.
9:22:10AM ALSO, JUST RECENTLY BECAME THE PAST PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA
9:22:14AM REDEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION, AND I AM CERTIFIED AS A
9:22:17AM REDEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATOR WITH THEM.
9:22:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
9:22:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:22:25AM AND I WILL SAY THIS TO ALL THE CANDIDATES.
9:22:27AM THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND APPLYING.
9:22:30AM EVERYONE IS UNIQUELY QUALIFIED WITH EQUALLY IMPRESSIVE
9:22:34AM RESUMÉS.
9:22:37AM I LOOKED AT YOUR RESUMÉ.
9:22:39AM I MET WITH YOU YESTERDAY.
9:22:41AM WE SPOKE AT LENGTH.
9:22:43AM YOU HAVE A PH.D. IN PHILOSOPHY, CORRECT?
9:22:48AM >> YES.
9:22:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT SPECIFICALLY IN STUDYING EVERYTHING
9:22:52AM FROM THE URBAN CORES TO URBAN RENEWAL TO -- I LOOK AT HOW
9:23:01AM CITIES HAVE CHANGED ACROSS AMERICA, POST WORLD WAR II.
9:23:04AM WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
9:23:05AM YOU HAVE YOUR DISSERTATION THERE.
9:23:08AM WHAT WAS INTERESTING IS, YOU MADE MENTION OF THE CHANGES IN
9:23:13AM TAMPA THROUGH THE 1950s AND 1970s WHERE THERE WAS A LOT
9:23:19AM OF CHANGE, WHERE WE SAW A LOT OF HISTORIC COMMUNITIES COME
9:23:23AM APART EITHER DUE TO THE INTERNET, URBAN RENEWAL,
9:23:26AM REDEVELOPMENT, TO BEING CONSIDERED BLIGHTED AREAS AND
9:23:29AM WHATNOT.
9:23:30AM I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK TO THE BUILD
9:23:36AM TOWARD THE FUTURE AND UNDERSTAND THE GOOD AND THE BAD, THE
9:23:39AM MISTAKES, THE DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE MADE IN THE PAST,
9:23:42AM BEFORE MANY OF US WERE BORN, AND LEARNING FROM THOSE, AND
9:23:46AM THE CONSEQUENCES THAT WE FACE.
9:23:48AM COMMUNITIES HAVE CHANGED.
9:23:49AM TAMPA HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST HALF CENTURY-PLUS.
9:23:52AM WHAT I APPRECIATED YESTERDAY WAS SEEING THAT YOU HAVE MADE
9:23:56AM THIS PART OF YOUR LIFE AND YOUR CAREER IN STUDYING TAMPA.
9:24:00AM I DON'T FEEL THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY AND CRITICAL
9:24:05AM THAT THE PERSON NEEDS TO BE FROM TAMPA, BUT THE PERSON
9:24:07AM SHOULD HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF OUR CITY, OR BE WILLING AND
9:24:11AM OPEN TO LEARNING OUR CITY.
9:24:13AM AS NOW, WE HAVE MULTIPLE CRAs, EAST TAMPA IS THE BIGGEST
9:24:17AM ONE, AND EAST TAMPA IN MY OPINION IS THE ONE THAT NEEDS THE
9:24:20AM MOST HELP.
9:24:22AM WE HAVE SEEN THE CRA SUCCESS IN DOWNTOWN AND THE CHANNEL
9:24:26AM DISTRICT, WEST TAMPA BEING A NEWER CRA.
9:24:29AM WE SEE THE SUCCESSES THERE.
9:24:31AM BUT EAST TAMPA HISTORICALLY BEING IN MY OPINION FORGOTTEN,
9:24:35AM AND WHICH NEEDS THE MOST HELP, BEING THAT IT IS THE LARGEST
9:24:40AM BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU GO EAST OF THE INTERSTATE, NOT THE
9:24:46AM INTERNET, TO THE CITY LIMITS.
9:24:48AM IT'S SUCH -- I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY
9:24:53AM THERE.
9:24:53AM AND WHAT WE SEE FROM PUBLIC COMMENT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT
9:24:55AM LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY ARE ASKING FOR HELP.
9:24:57AM WHY IS IT THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE SUCCEEDING?
9:25:02AM WHY DO WE HAVE STRONGER MIDDLE CLASS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE
9:25:05AM CITY BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT EQUITY ALL THROUGHOUT, WHERE
9:25:08AM EAST TAMPA DESERVES.
9:25:10AM AND THE BIGGEST CRA, EAST TAMPA DESERVE IT IS SAME RESPECT
9:25:14AM AND INVESTMENT THAT OTHER CRAs THAT HAVE SUCCEEDED AND
9:25:18AM FLOURISHED SO MUCH.
9:25:19AM SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION, IT'S A STATEMENT.
9:25:22AM BUT AGAIN, AN APPRECIATION, YOU KNOW, YOU STUDIED THIS, YOU
9:25:27AM HAVE STUDIED COMMUNITIES, NOT JUST TAMPA BUT ALL THROUGHOUT
9:25:30AM FLORIDA, AND YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONSEQUENCES OF DECISIONS
9:25:33AM THAT WERE MADE IN THE PAST, BUT ALSO HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD
9:25:36AM TOGETHER AND MAKE BETTER DECISIONS IN LIFTING EVERYONE UP.
9:25:39AM SO WE HAVE EQUITY ACROSS THE BOARD FOR EVERYONE IN OUR CITY.
9:25:42AM THANK YOU.
9:25:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
9:25:45AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. BURTON, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
9:25:51AM AS YOU KNOW -- I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
9:25:56AM WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, WHAT'S WRONG WITH TAMPA'S CRA?
9:26:02AM THAT'S THE QUESTION WE WANT TO KNOW, THRIVING OR NOT.
9:26:07AM IN MY MIND -- I KNOW THAT BECAUSE IT NEVER MOVES.
9:26:15AM SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM YOU SEE, WITH OUR CRA AS A WHOLE, AND
9:26:20AM MOVING EAST TAMPA?
9:26:23AM >>JEFFREY BURTON: FOR THE LAST ALMOST YEAR, I HAD THE
9:26:25AM PRIVILEGE TO WORK IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND LISTEN, LISTEN A
9:26:30AM LOT, LISTEN TO ALL THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS FROM THE BORED
9:26:35AM ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:26:38AM AND I WILL ECHO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO'S STATEMENT ABOUT
9:26:44AM KNOWING THE HISTORY, BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, WHERE I COMB
9:26:49AM FROM, WE HAVE EAST PALMETTO WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO EAST
9:26:52AM TAMPA, AND THE ONE THING I KNOW ABOUT EAST PALMETTO IS THAT
9:26:56AM I HAVE NEVADA LIVED ON THE EAST SIDE OF PALMETTO, I NEVER
9:26:59AM LIVED ON THE EAST SIDE OF TAMPA.
9:27:01AM I CANNOT CLAIM TO HAVE A FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE
9:27:05AM CULTURE, THE HISTORY.
9:27:07AM BUT WHAT I CAN DO IS RESPECT THAT CULTURE AND HISTORY.
9:27:11AM I CAN LEARN ABOUT IT, WHICH I HAVE DONE THROUGH MY STUDIES,
9:27:17AM LEARNING ABOUT URBAN RENEWAL IN THE 1950s, LEARNING ABOUT
9:27:20AM PROGRESS, VILLAGE PARK, AND THE MOVEMENT OUT, LEARNING ABOUT
9:27:25AM CENTRAL AVENUE, AND WHAT CENTRAL AVENUE WAS, WHY IT EXISTED
9:27:29AM BECAUSE OF JIM CROW LAWS, HOW IT WAS BUILT, WHY IT WAS
9:27:33AM BASICALLY DESTROYED.
9:27:36AM I WILL TELL YOU THIS, THAT GROWING UP IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA,
9:27:40AM I LOOK AT CHANNEL DISTRICT, AND IT IS THE POSTER CHILD FOR
9:27:44AM REDEVELOPMENT.
9:27:44AM IT'S THE FINISHED PRODUCT.
9:27:46AM MY GRANDFATHER WAS A SEA-GOING TUG, SHIP CAPTAIN, AND WE
9:27:52AM WOULD DELIVER HIM TO THE PORT WHEN I WAS A CHILD.
9:27:55AM AND YOU COULD SEE -- AND YOU ALL KNOW WHAT CHANNEL DISTRICT
9:27:59AM WAS.
9:27:59AM IT WAS A MARITIME INDUSTRIAL PLANT.
9:28:02AM AND NOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
9:28:05AM AND IT'S BEEN REDEVELOPED.
9:28:07AM SPEAKING DIRECTLY ABOUT EAST TAMPA, FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE
9:28:12AM LOOKED AT THE LONGEVITY OF ALL THE CRAs, ALL EIGHT OF
9:28:16AM THEM.
9:28:17AM WE SHARED ALL OF THAT YESTERDAY, AND EAST TAMPA IS TO THE
9:28:23AM 2014 AGREEMENT WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, DUE TO WIND DOWN IN
9:28:29AM 2024.
9:28:30AM IT WAS CREATED IN 2000 AFTER THE 2000 TO AMEND IT TO THE
9:28:34AM STATUTE WHICH GIVES IT 40 YEARS IF YOU FOLLOW THE STATUTE.
9:28:37AM BUT THIS IS A CHARTER COUNTY, SO YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT
9:28:40AM BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.
9:28:43AM I HAVE ALSO STATED THAT OUT OF ALL THE CRAs, OUT OF ALL
9:28:47AM EIGHT OF THOSE, THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE NEED TO START WORKING
9:28:51AM ON NOW, IF WE WANT TO, AND THE BOARD CHOOSES TO, ON AN
9:28:55AM EXTENSION.
9:28:55AM WE CAN GO TO 2044.
9:29:01AM WE SIT AND TALK WITH THE ATTORNEY ABOUT THAT 2014 AMENDMENT,
9:29:04AM GO BACK IN AND ADJUST THAT.
9:29:06AM I BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE IT'S EAST TAMPA, AND IT'S IN THE
9:29:10AM CURRENT STATE THAT IT'S IN, THAT THAT WOULD BE THE EASIEST
9:29:13AM OF ALL TO EXTEND.
9:29:16AM I THINK THAT HAS THE STRONGEST CASE.
9:29:22AM WHY ISN'T EAST TAMPA MOVING FORWARD?
9:29:40AM (NO AUDIO)
9:30:37AM
9:33:50AM AND LOOK AT THEIR PLANS.
9:38:37AM AND DETERMINE IF IN THE PLAN THAT WE CAN DO ANY TYPE OF
9:38:42AM HOUSING.
9:38:42AM AND TWO OF THE PLANS WERE YES, AND TWO OF THE PLANS WERE NO.
9:38:45AM SO THE FIRST THING I WOULD DO IS, IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT,
9:38:49AM IS MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANS ARE ALL IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE
9:38:53AM THINGS THE BOARD WANTS TO DO.
9:38:55AM BUT THE PLANS ARE NOT THERE TO BE RESTRICTIVE.
9:38:57AM THEY ARE THERE TO EXPAND ON WHAT THE BOARD WANTS.
9:39:01AM WE TAUGHT IN A CLASS ABOUT THE WORD "MAY."
9:39:04AM USE THE WORD "MAY" A LOT IN THOSE PLANS.
9:39:07AM THAT WAY THE BOARD CAN DECIDE WHETHER IT WANTS TO DO IT OR
9:39:10AM NOT DO IT.
9:39:10AM YOU NEVER WANT TO USE THE WORD NEVER BUT YOU SHOULDN'T USE
9:39:14AM THE WORD SHOULD OR COULD OR WOULD UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING YOU
9:39:17AM REALLY HAVE TO DO.
9:39:18AM WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT THE BOARD DESIRES.
9:39:22AM I WAS ASKED TO SAY NO TO BOARD AND I SAID YES, ESPECIALLY TO
9:39:27AM SOMETHING THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
9:39:29AM BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M THE PERSON YOU CAN COME TO, TO SEE
9:39:34AM IF WE CAN DO IT, AND IF WE CAN'T DO IT WE NEED TO MAKE
9:39:40AM ADJUSTMENTS IN THE POLICIES.
9:39:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW WOULD YOU ACTUALLY GET IT DONE?
9:39:44AM AND MAYBE SOME INCITES AS TO WHY IT DIDN'T HAPPEN BUT THESE
9:39:47AM ARE THINGS WE VOTED ON, BUT WE VOTE ON THEM AND SAID WE WANT
9:39:51AM THEM BUT IT JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN.
9:39:53AM >>JEFFREY BURTON: MAKE SURE I HAVE A POLICY WITH MY STAFF
9:39:58AM AND WHENEVER THE BOARD MAKES A MOTION ACCORDING TO THE
9:40:00AM STATUTE OF THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE THOSE COMMITTED
9:40:04AM ELECTRONICALLY, OR USING OUTLOOK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
9:40:09AM DOCUMENT THESE THINGS AND WE SET A DATE FOR THEM TO BE
9:40:12AM BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD EVEN THOUGH THE BOARD USUALLY
9:40:14AM GIVES US A DATE TO BRING THEM BACK AND MAKE SURE WE MEET
9:40:18AM THOSE CALENDAR ITEMS.
9:40:19AM WHEN IT COMES TO A 30%, YOU KNOW, THE INTERESTING THING IS
9:40:25AM IT'S BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, AND WHEN IT'S BROUGHT TO MY
9:40:28AM ATTENTION I FEEDBACK TO THE DIRECTOR AND ALIS ON DIFFERENT
9:40:33AM WAYS THAT WE COULD LEGALLY MOVE THOSE THINGS FORWARD TO GET
9:40:37AM BACK TO THE BOARD SO YOU KNOW IT WAS BEING WORKED ON.
9:40:40AM SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS LISTEN INTENTLY TO WHAT THE BOARD'S
9:40:45AM MOTION IS, THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD, WE WOULD DOCUMENT
9:40:47AM THAT, WE COULD KEEP IT ON A TIMELINE, WE WOULD USE EITHER
9:40:54AM MICROSOFT OR ANOTHER PRODUCT TO DO THAT AND THEN KEEP A
9:40:57AM CALENDAR OF IT AND MAKE SHUSH IT GETS BACK AT THE PROPER
9:41:03AM TIME.
9:41:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE SECOND QUESTION, BOARD MEMBER
9:41:05AM MANISCALCO WENT THROUGH YOUR EDUCATION, AND YOU OBVIOUSLY
9:41:07AM HAVE A LOT OF GREAT EDUCATION, ECONOMICS, PUBLIC
9:41:10AM ADMINISTRATION, AND THEN YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE.
9:41:15AM CAN YOU GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES, THOUGH, OF YOUR LEADERSHIP?
9:41:18AM WERE YOU ABLE TO DECISIVELY PUSH THROUGH WHATEVER THE
9:41:23AM ORDINANCE WAS TO GET THINGS DONE?
9:41:25AM >>JEFFREY BURTON: THE FIRST EXAMPLE I AM GIVE YOU IS WHEN I
9:41:27AM FIRST CAME TO THE CITY OF PALMETTO THEY WERE IN A SIMILAR
9:41:31AM SITUATION.
9:41:31AM THEY HAD A PLAN FROM 1993 FOR THEIR CRA.
9:41:33AM THE PLAN NEEDED TO BE UPDATED.
9:41:36AM I WROTE IT MYSELF.
9:41:38AM BECAUSE IT WOULD JUST BE EASIER TO DO IT IN-HOUSE.
9:41:42AM IT'S ONLY A $5 MILLION CRA SO IT'S NOT LIKE DOWNTOWN OR
9:41:45AM CHANNEL DISTRICT.
9:41:47AM AND IT'S NOT 8 CRAs, IT'S JUST ONE CRA.
9:41:52AM SO GETTING THE PLAN THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
9:41:54AM AND THIS WAS IN AN UNCHARTERED COUNTY WHICH MAKES IT A LOT
9:41:59AM EASIER.
9:41:59AM IT WAS HARDER TO GET MY BOARD TO APPROVE THE NEW PLAN, BUT
9:42:07AM IN THE END, WE BROUGHT FORWARD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CITIES
9:42:09AM LIKE SATELLITE BEACH, FLORIDA, DAYTONA BEACH, FLORIDA,
9:42:14AM BRADENTON, FLORIDA, THAT HAD BEEN AUDITED BY THE STATE, AND
9:42:18AM SHOWED THEM THAT ONE OF THE AUDITED ITEMS WAS TO HAVE A PLAN
9:42:22AM UPDATED AND SHOW WHAT IT COST THOSE CITIES TO DO IT.
9:42:25AM JUST BY PROVIDING THE BOARD THE TRUTH, EXPLAINING TO THEM
9:42:29AM WHY THEY NEED TO DO IT AND WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DON'T DO
9:42:32AM SOMETHING.
9:42:33AM THAT SEEMED TO PUSH IT ALONG QUITE WELL ALONG WITH WORKING
9:42:36AM WITH THE ATTORNEY.
9:42:37AM OTHER ITEMS, I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE PROJECTS, REDOING A
9:42:44AM COMPLETE WATERFRONT.
9:42:46AM I HAVE A PROJECT THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE, WHEN I LEFT,
9:42:51AM WE REMEDIATED A CITY BROWNFIELD SITE AND TURNED IT INTO A
9:42:55AM PARK THAT ALSO PRETREATS STORMWATER.
9:42:57AM IT'S DOWN THE STREET FROM ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS'
9:43:00AM HOMES.
9:43:01AM HE FOUGHT US THE ENTIRE WAY ON THE PROJECT, BUT LUCKILY FOR
9:43:04AM ME, I UNDERSTAND BOARDS, I HAVE SAT ON BOARDS, AND HE WAS
9:43:09AM ONE VOICE, AND HE WAS A SINGLE VOICE.
9:43:12AM SO, YES, WE WERE DEFINITELY CHASTISED BY THAT BOARD MEMBER
9:43:20AM FOR DOING THIS PROJECT, SO CLOSE TO HIS HOME, ABOUT YOU THE
9:43:24AM REST OF THE BOARD WANTED THE PROJECT DONE.
9:43:26AM ONE OF THE WAYS WE GOT IT DONE WAS THE FDEP CAME DOWN TO THE
9:43:30AM CITY, THEY HAD BEEN WORKING ON, ADDRESSING THAT SITE, SINCE
9:43:34AM THEY BOUGHT IT IN 1998, THEY NEVER DID ANYTHING WITH IT.
9:43:37AM THE CRA HAD EXPERIENCE WITH BROWNFIELDS.
9:43:40AM WE TOLD THEM WE WOULD TAKE IT ON.
9:43:42AM WE WOULD PAY FOR THE REMEDIATION.
9:43:43AM WE GOT 75 PERCENT GAP IN TAX CREDIT WHEN WE SOLD.
9:43:47AM WE GOT A $200,000 EPA GRANT WHICH WE GOT TAX CREDITS FOR,
9:43:52AM MADE $150,000 ON.
9:43:54AM SO WE JUST WORK HARD.
9:43:57AM BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S ABOUT AUTHORITY, AND THIS BOARD
9:44:00AM IS THE AUTHORITY.
9:44:01AM AND IF THE BOARD SAYS WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, AS LONG
9:44:05AM AS IT'S STATUTORILY CORRECT, AND IN THE PLAN, AND I AM GOING
9:44:08AM TO LOOK OVER HERE TO THE ATTORNEY AND SAY, IF WE WANT TO DO
9:44:12AM THIS, AND WE ARE GOING TO AGREE ON THIS OR NOT GOING TO
9:44:15AM AGREE ON IT, AND HE'S THE LEGAL AUTHORITY, THEN WE MOVE
9:44:19AM FORWARD, AND WE MOVE FORWARD ARE WITH ALL EXPEDIENCE, AND WE
9:44:25AM ALSO TRY TO LAYER SO WE ARE NOT JUST GETTING ONE ITEM FOR
9:44:28AM OUR DOLLAR.
9:44:29AM WE CAN FIND GRANTS, IF WE CAN APPLY OTHER FUNDS THAT WE CAN
9:44:33AM GO AFTER, LIKE STATE REVOLVING LOAN FUNDS, THEN WE WILL DO
9:44:38AM BE THAT SO WE CAN GET THE MOST OUT OF OUR REDEVELOPMENTS.
9:44:41AM THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT'S BEEN DONE AND WHAT WE
9:44:44AM ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
9:44:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY.
9:44:50AM DO I HAVE TIME --
9:44:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE.
9:44:53AM I DON'T BELIEVE IN -- TIME.
9:44:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION, BOARD MEMBER
9:44:57AM MANISCALCO ASKED BEFORE YOUR PHILOSOPHY STUDIES, BUT A LOT
9:45:00AM OF PEOPLE THAT WORK IN CRAs HAVE A REAL ESTATE BACKGROUND
9:45:03AM OR BUT YOUR UNDERGRAD IS IN ECONOMICS, AND MY MINOR WAS IN
9:45:08AM ECONOMICS.
9:45:08AM SO I WONDER WHAT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE WOULD YOU BRING TO
9:45:14AM THE TABLE BY HAVING AN ECONOMICS DEGREE VERSUS ONE OF THE
9:45:17AM OTHERS?
9:45:18AM >>JEFFREY BURTON: OKAY, SO IT'S SIMPLE.
9:45:20AM IN FACT ALL OF MY EXPERIENCE, EVEN THE FOUR YEARS WHEN I WAS
9:45:24AM 22 YEARS OF AGE ON A CITY COUNCIL, THAT EXPERIENCE FOLLOW
9:45:32AM THROUGHOUT MY ENTIRE CAREER.
9:45:33AM THE ECONOMICS DEGREE, I HAVE USED THAT IN PALMETTO, AND
9:45:38AM MAINLY IN FORT MYERS PRIOR TO THE STORM.
9:45:42AM I CONSULTED WITH THEM WHILE I WAS WORKING IN PALMETTO, AND
9:45:46AM THE WHOLE IDEA WAS TO WORK ON THEIR INCENTIVES, THAT THEY
9:45:51AM WOULD BRING IN FOR BUSINESSES.
9:45:53AM AND WHEN I GOT THERE, THEY WERE HANDING OVER 85% OF THE
9:45:59AM INCREMENT CREATED FROM THE CONSTRUCTION DO IT BUSINESSES
9:46:02AM WHICH I DISAGREED WITH.
9:46:03AM WE CREATED BASICALLY A SCORE BASED ON TAP RATES WHICH
9:46:13AM DETERMINED WHETHER THE CITY ACTUALLY NEEDED TO GIVE AN
9:46:16AM INCENTIVE ENOUGH.
9:46:18AM WAS THE PUMP PRIMED OR DID THEY NEED TO PRIME THAT PUMP FOR
9:46:21AM THE INCENTIVES?
9:46:22AM WHEN I GOT THERE, THEY WERE JUST MAYBE IN THE BEGINNING OF
9:46:25AM THE UPTURN IN THE ECONOMY, AND ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH, WE
9:46:29AM EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT, NO, YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAVE
9:46:32AM INCENTIVES, TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT COME IN.
9:46:35AM IN TAMPA, DOWNTOWN, CHANNEL DISTRICT, YOU DO NOT NEED THOSE
9:46:39AM INCENTIVES TO BRING TO THE DEVELOPERS.
9:46:41AM I CAN TOLL YOU THAT FIRSTHAND.
9:46:42AM DON'T NEED THEM.
9:46:43AM AND I HAVE GOT SPREADSHEETS THAT SHOWED EXACTLY HOW TO DO
9:46:48AM THEM. IN EAST TAMPA, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
9:46:51AM IN EAST TAMPA.
9:46:53AM BUT YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT IT IS YOU WANT TO GO IN
9:46:56AM THERE, WHAT IT IS THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO GO IN THERE, HOW
9:47:00AM ARE WE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT COMMUNITY ATMOSPHERE, AND NOT
9:47:04AM BRING IN THE FACT AND WE ARE GOING TO GET BACK TO THE
9:47:10AM COMMUNITY WHILE HERE DOING THAT.
9:47:12AM AND I WILL TELL YOU ALL YOUR CRAs, AN IT'S NOT A SUBSIDY
9:47:17AM BECAUSE THAT WAS MENTIONED YESTERDAY.
9:47:19AM SOMETHING IS -- SUBSIDY IS WHEN YOU GIVE SOMETHING FOR
9:47:23AM NOTICING IN RETURN.
9:47:24AM YES, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR BUT IN RETURN
9:47:27AM THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE SEWING WHETHER IT'S JOBS, WHETHER
9:47:29AM IT'S INCREASED MITIGATION FOR HIGH WINDS, YOU NAME IT, AND
9:47:37AM IN FRAMES, IT WAS MBE/WBE, WE HAD A 15% REQUIREMENT THAT THE
9:47:43AM DEVELOPER HAD TO BRING IN IF THEY WANTED THE INCENTIVES.
9:47:46AM AND THEY ALSO HAD A NONPROFIT INVESTMENT.
9:47:49AM 5% OF THE MONEY THEY RECEIVED EVERY YEAR, THE DEVELOPER
9:47:52AM WORKED WITH THE NONPROFIT, WHETHER IT WAS BOYS CLUB AND
9:47:56AM GIRLS CLUB OR THE BUTTERFLY GARDEN WHICH WAS ONE OF THEM,
9:48:00AM THEY HAD TO DO AN INVESTMENT WITH THAT NONPROFIT.
9:48:04AM BUT THE CRAs REALLY SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT.
9:48:07AM BUT THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN.
9:48:08AM SO WE INCENTIVIZED THEM TO DO THAT.
9:48:12AM SO I WOULD TELL YOU THAT MY ECONOMICS DEGREE HELPS ME TO
9:48:17AM DETERMINE A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS FOR THE BOARD, IF WE DO
9:48:20AM SOMETHING LIKE THAT, HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE GOING TO BE ASKED
9:48:23AM TO INVEST IN THIS, NUMBER ONE.
9:48:26AM HOW LONG WILL IT BE BEFORE WE GET OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT
9:48:29AM IN YEARS?
9:48:30AM AND REMEMBER, RIGHT NOW, ELEVEN YEARS, WE ARE GOING TO TALK
9:48:35AM ABOUT EAST TAMPA, IS NOT A LONG TIME IN REDEVELOPMENT, OKAY.
9:48:39AM IT IS NOT.
9:48:41AM YOU CAN'T GO OUT AND BOND MONEY.
9:48:43AM WELL, YOU CAN BUT IT WILL BE A SHORT-TERM BOND.
9:48:47AM WE NEED THAT EXTENSION AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT OHIO TO
9:48:50AM INCENTIVIZE THE RIGHT USES, THE RIGHT INCENTIVES TO GET
9:48:55AM THINGS ROLLING THAT THE COMMUNITY WILL AGREE WITH, AND THEN
9:48:58AM WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
9:48:59AM ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THAT -- AND I PREACH THIS ALL THE
9:49:04AM TIME -- CRAs DO NOT SPEND TAXES, THEY SPEND INCREMENT
9:49:11AM REVENUE.
9:49:11AM THERE ARE TWO LAWSUITS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AT THE STATE
9:49:14AM SUPREME COURT LEVEL, ONE IN 1980, ONE IN 2007, STRAND CASE
9:49:18AM THAT SAYS THAT.
9:49:19AM SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REACH OUT PAST THE FLORIDA
9:49:22AM CONSTITUTION AND WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
9:49:25AM AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY CRAs ARE SO UNIQUE.
9:49:29AM WHEN I GOT HERE.
9:49:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DIDN'T QUITE SEE THAT IN TAMPA.
9:49:33AM I REALIZED IT WASN'T NECESSARY IN PARTS OF TAMPA BECAUSE
9:49:36AM TAMPA HAS A STRONG ECONOMY, BUT THEN I REALIZED IN OTHER
9:49:40AM PARTS OF TAMPA, THAT'S A STRONG TOOL THAT WE CAN USE.
9:49:45AM BUT THE BOARD HAS TO -- AND THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO APPROVE
9:49:50AM IT AND WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT IT.
9:49:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOING TO ASK A QUESTION.
9:50:00AM WE HAD THE CAC MEMBERS COME HERE AND TALK ABOUT PUSHING
9:50:05AM THINGS THROUGH.
9:50:06AM AND HISTORICALLY, AT LEAST WHEN I CAME ALONG, THE BIGGEST
9:50:10AM PROBLEM WE HAD IS COMMUNICATION WITH OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS,
9:50:16AM CACs, THE BOARD, THE STAFF, AND THEN YESTERDAY, THOUGH,
9:50:21AM ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED WAS HOW YOU HANDLED
9:50:24AM DISAGREEMENTS.
9:50:25AM AND YOU MENTIONED ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE A DIFFERENCE IN
9:50:30AM OPINION ON SUBJECT MATTER OR APPROACH, YOU TALK ABOUT WHITE
9:50:35AM PAPERS AND E-MAILS.
9:50:37AM CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE?
9:50:39AM >>JEFFREY BURTON: SO IN MY PAST, I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF
9:50:43AM WORKING FOR A BOARD, THAT AT SOME POINT, ONE IS TO DO
9:50:49AM SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT IN THE PLAN, OR AN OPPOSITE ACTION TO
9:50:55AM THE PLAN.
9:50:57AM AND BEING A FORMER BOARD MEMBER MYSELF, YOU KNOW, SO THINGS
9:51:02AM NEED TO BE COMMUNICATED BUT THEY DON'T NEED TO BE BROADCAST
9:51:06AM WIDELY.
9:51:06AM WE JUST NEED TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT
9:51:09AM WHEN THE BOARD MAKES A DECISION THEY HAVE ALL THE
9:51:11AM INFORMATION THEY NEED, AND MOST TIMES, WHEN I DO SOMETHING
9:51:18AM LIKE THAT, IT'S NOT AN OPINION, IT IS BASED ON VERBIAGE ON
9:51:23AM THE PLAN, OUT OF THE STATUTE, I WILL TALK TO THE CITY
9:51:26AM ATTORNEY BEFORE WE GO NIP FURTHER.
9:51:28AM YOU KNOW, HERE IN TAMPA I HAVE LEARNED THAT THIS CITY
9:51:32AM ATTORNEY, YOU GIVE HIM A VERY THOUGHTFUL ONE-PAGE OPINION OF
9:51:36AM WHAT YOU FEEL, HE WILL READ IT AND HE WILL SEND IT BACK TO
9:51:40AM YOU AND HE WILL EVEN SAY, NO, I DISAGREE ARCHED HERE IS WHY.
9:51:44AM USUALLY IT DOESN'T GO PAST THAT, BECAUSE ONCE THE ATTORNEY
9:51:47AM HAS MADE THE DECISION, THAT'S IT.
9:51:52AM BUT I WAS IN A SITUATION WHERE THE CRA ATTORNEY WAS ALSO THE
9:51:55AM CITY ATTORNEY, APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR, AND MY ATTORNEY WAS
9:51:59AM SITTING ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE TABLE LITERALLY.
9:52:04AM AND I WROTE A ONE-PAGE OPINION EXPRESSING WHY I FELT THE
9:52:07AM BOARD SHOULD NOT -- IF THEY DID MAKE THE DECISION, WHY IT
9:52:11AM WAS NOT THE PROPER DECISION TO MAKE.
9:52:13AM I SUBMITTED IT TO EACH BOARD MEMBER THREW E-MAIL AND
9:52:16AM SUBMITTED IT FOR THE RECORD.
9:52:18AM THAT'S ALL I DID.
9:52:19AM WHAT THAT DID WAS, THAT PUT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE
9:52:22AM DECISION ON THE BOARD, IN THE EVENT, AT SOME LATER DATE IF
9:52:29AM IT WAS DETERMINED IT WAS NOT APPROPRIATE, I WAS TRYING TO
9:52:32AM PROTECT THE BOARD WHILE I WAS TRYING TO PROTECT MYSELF, AND
9:52:36AM I HAVE FOUND WHEN I DO THAT, THAT USUALLY THAT DECISION
9:52:40AM DOESN'T GET MADE.
9:52:42AM BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS BROUGHT OUT, IT
9:52:47AM JUST NEEDS TO BE COMMUNICATED, EDUCATED, AND LIKE I SAID, I
9:52:50AM HAVE NOT HAD THAT EXPERIENCE HERE.
9:52:52AM I HAVE FOUND IN TAMPA, IF I HAVE AN ISSUE, AND I COMMUNICATE
9:52:56AM WITH THE ATTORNEY, AND I GIVE HIM ALL THE INFORMATION HE
9:52:59AM NEEDS, HE WILL RESPOND BACK WITH, YOU KNOW, HE WILL READ IT
9:53:04AM AND COME BACK AND SAY, I SEE WHERE YOU ARE GOING WITH THIS.
9:53:06AM IN FACT THE ONE TIME I HAVE DONE IT HE TOLD ME I WAS WRONG.
9:53:10AM AND HE TAUGHT ME SOMETHING I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT 2019.
9:53:16AM AND IT STOPPED RIGHT THERE.
9:53:21AM THAT'S THE ATTORNEY.
9:53:22AM HE'S THE LEGAL EXPERT, NOT ME.
9:53:24AM I'M NOTE AN ATTORNEY.
9:53:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT HOW DO YOU -- HOW DO YOU PUSH THINGS
9:53:31AM THROUGH?
9:53:32AM WHEN YOU HAVE A DISAGREEMENT, YOU ARE GOING TO DISAGREE WITH
9:53:34AM US, YOU ARE GOING TO DISAGREE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
9:53:37AM HOW -- HOW DO YOU -- HOW DO YOU GET US ALL TO WORK TOGETHER?
9:53:43AM >>JEFFREY BURTON: THAT COMES FROM COMMUNICATION, AND IT
9:53:45AM COMES FROM COMPROMISE.
9:53:47AM WHEN I LOOK AT THE BOARD, I SEE VOTES, I DON'T SEE
9:53:50AM PERSONALITIES.
9:53:52AM I SEE HOW MANY VOTES ARE SUPPORTIVE.
9:53:55AM IT'S NOT HARD TO READ THE BOARD DURING A MEETING.
9:53:58AM YOU COMMUNICATE VERY WELL YOUR POSITIONS.
9:54:01AM IF THE BOARD -- FOR INSTANCE, I BROUGHT UP AT ONE MEETING --
9:54:06AM DON'T GET ADD AT ME, COUNSEL -- THE WORD PACE.
9:54:10AM IT TOOK ME ABOUT TWO SECONDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS A
9:54:14AM PLACE THAT I DO NOT GO, WHETHER I AGREE WITH IT OR NOT,
9:54:17AM DOESN'T MATTER.
9:54:19AM THE BOARD IS THE ULTIMATE DECISION.
9:54:23AM AND LATER ON, IF I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, AND YOU HAVE TIME TO
9:54:27AM SIT DOWN AND GO OVER PACE AND OTHER TYPES OF PRODUCTS TO
9:54:31AM BRING ALL SORTS OF ENERGY TO THE CITY, I WOULD LOVE TO DO
9:54:34AM THAT.
9:54:34AM BUT IT'S NOT MY OPINION THAT MATTERS.
9:54:36AM IT'S THE BOARD'S DECISION THAT MATTERS.
9:54:38AM MY JOB IS TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
9:54:42AM THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S WHERE THE CACs COME IN.
9:54:46AM AND THE MANAGERS WORK WITH THE CACs.
9:54:49AM I WORK WITH THE MANAGERS AND THE COMMUNITY AND THEN WE TURN
9:54:51AM AROUND AND PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD.
9:54:53AM DOES THE BOARD ALWAYS SIDE WITH THE CACs?
9:54:57AM NO.
9:54:57AM I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER CASE WHERE WE BROUGHT FORWARD A
9:55:01AM $3.6 MILLION PURCHASE OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
9:55:04AM OF THE WAS OBVIOUS THAT THE BOARD WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR IT
9:55:09AM THIS LAST TIME.
9:55:10AM THAT'S EXACTLY THE MESSAGE WE GOT, WENT BACK TO THE CAC AND
9:55:14AM SAID THEY WANT TO BUY ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY.
9:55:17AM I SAID YOU CAN TRY IT.
9:55:18AM I'LL SEND IT FORWARD.
9:55:19AM THAT'S MY JOB.
9:55:20AM BUT I GUARANTEE YOU, THAT BOARD IS PROBABLY GOING TO VOTE
9:55:24AM AGAINST IT, BECAUSE THEY TOLD US AT THE LAST MEETING THAT
9:55:27AM THIS WAS THE ONE TIME THEY WOULD DO IT.
9:55:30AM THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE PURCHASING PROPERTY AT THAT
9:55:32AM LEVEL.
9:55:33AM SO IT'S ALL ABOUT COMMUNICATION.
9:55:36AM IT'S ALSO ABOUT EDUCATION.
9:55:39AM I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT CRAs.
9:55:42AM I KNOW A LOT.
9:55:43AM BUT IF I KNOW SOMETHING, I NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE AWARE
9:55:45AM OF IT, THAT THE COMMUNITY -- AND BY THE TIME IT GETS TO ME
9:55:50AM TO COME TO THE BOARD THAT IT'S BEEN VETTED IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:55:52AM FOR INSTANCE, THE JACKSON HOUSE.
9:55:57AM YES.
9:56:00AM I HAVE MULTIPLE IDEAS ON HOW TO HELP RESOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
9:56:04AM BUT AFTER TALKING WITH THE OWNERS OF THE JACKSON HOUSE, THEY
9:56:08AM DO NOT WANT TO MOVE THE HOUSE.
9:56:09AM MOST OF THOSE IDEAS WERE ALLAYED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO STAY
9:56:14AM WITH THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY SO WE CONTINUED TO WORK WITH THE
9:56:16AM FOLKS AT JACKSON HOUSE, KEEP THE BOARD INFORMED, WE MOVED A
9:56:19AM MILLION DOLLARS INTO THE BUDGET AND IT WILL STAY THERE.
9:56:22AM AND WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP WORKING IT.
9:56:25AM AND AT THE SAME TIME WE INFORM THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE HOUSE
9:56:29AM AT SOME POINT YOU ARE GOING TO NEED TO MAKE A DECISION
9:56:31AM WHETHER TO SACRIFICE THE HOUSE.
9:56:36AM OR WE NEED TO CONSIDER MAYBE MOVING IT.
9:56:38AM AND THEY SAID THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED IN THAT AND WE RESPECT
9:56:41AM THAT.
9:56:41AM BUT AT SOME POINT, IF YOU WANT TO SAVE THAT HOUSE, YOU MIGHT
9:56:45AM HAVE TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO DO, THAT WE
9:56:48AM WOULD NOT REALLY WANT TO MOVE FROM THE ORIGINAL LOCATION BUT
9:56:53AM IN ORDER TO SAVE THE HERITAGE AND CULTURE OF THAT HOUSE WE
9:56:57AM MIGHT HAVE TO HELP THEM MAKE THAT DECISION.
9:56:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, THIS IS DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY
9:57:03AM BUT I AM A THOUSAND PERCENT AGAINST MOVING IT BECAUSE AT
9:57:08AM LEAST HALF THE STORY IS THAT AFRICAN AMERICANS COULD NOT
9:57:11AM STAY IN WHITE HOTELS WHEN THOUGH WALKED ACROSS THE STREET,
9:57:14AM AND SO THE EXAMPLE THE MOTIONS THAT WE MADE, THERE WERE
9:57:21AM THREE OR FOUR ALTERNATIVES AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A CRA MEETING
9:57:25AM IN A MONTH, BUT I EXPECT AT SOME POINT TOON WE ARE GOING TO
9:57:27AM GET SOME MORE ANSWERS AS TO WHAT OUR OFFERS WERE.
9:57:31AM WE OFFERED TO BUY IT.
9:57:32AM WE OFFERED TO BUY THE LAND NEXT TO IT.
9:57:34AM AND I FORGOT WHAT THE OTHER ONE WAS.
9:57:37AM OH, WE OFFERED THE PROCESS TO START THE PROCESS IN PLACE,
9:57:41AM ALL REQUIRES KEEPING IT THERE, AND I THINK ULTIMATELY THE
9:57:43AM DECISION IS THE FOUNDATION THAT OWNS IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO
9:57:46AM EITHER -- IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO SELL IT TO US OR IT'S GOING
9:57:49AM TO FALL DOWN, BECAUSE ONLY THE CITY CAN DO THE THINGS WE
9:57:52AM NEED TO DO TO SAVE IT.
9:57:54AM THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY.
9:57:56AM >>JEFFREY BURTON: BUT TO ANSWER YOUR PREVIOUS QUESTION
9:57:59AM ABOUT WHAT I WOULD DO TO GET THINGS MOVING FORWARD, THOSE
9:58:03AM MOTIONS WERE BEAUTIFUL MOTIONS, BY THE WAY, BECAUSE IT GAVE
9:58:06AM US THE ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD AND TALK TO. THEY WHAT DID
9:58:09AM WE DO?
9:58:10AM WE SAT DOWN.
9:58:10AM WE HAD THE MEETING.
9:58:11AM WE TALKED TO THEM.
9:58:12AM WE ASKED THEM ALL THE QUESTIONS.
9:58:13AM WE EVEN PUT IN SOME ALTERNATIVES, DID YOU THINK OF THIS,
9:58:18AM WOULD YOU CONSIDER THAT?
9:58:19AM AND WE LISTENED TO WHAT THE GROUP SAID AND WE SAID, OKAY, WE
9:58:23AM HAVE THE INFORMATION WE NEED, WE WILL GO BACK TO THE BOARD
9:58:26AM AND COMMUNICATE IT, AND AT OUR NEXT MEETING, I'M SURE WE
9:58:29AM WILL COMMUNICATE IT.
9:58:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY?
9:58:37AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:58:37AM >> THANK YOU.
9:58:41AM THANK YOU.
9:58:42AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GIVE US A QUICK MINUTE.
9:58:56AM WE'LL BRING DAVID IN.
9:58:57AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A QUICK RECESS.
9:58:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'LL DO A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
9:59:08AM (RECESS)
10:08:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. TRAVIS?
10:09:02AM OH, I'M SORRY, ROLL CALL.
10:09:03AM THANK YOU.
10:09:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
10:09:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
10:09:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:09:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
10:09:09AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
10:09:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
10:09:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
10:09:12AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
10:09:15AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: HI THERE.
10:09:17AM I AM GOING TO BRING TO YOU DAVID BARILLA.
10:09:20AM HE'S GOING TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND THEN OPEN IT UP FOR
10:09:23AM QUESTIONS FROM YOU GUYS.
10:09:24AM THANK YOU.
10:09:24AM >>DAVID BARILLA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:30AM GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
10:09:33AM MY NAME IS DAVID BARILLA, AND I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE
10:09:37AM ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF BOTH THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT BOARD
10:09:40AM AND COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA.
10:09:43AM SO I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH THAT GROUP FOR JUST
10:09:48AM OVER 12 YEARS.
10:09:49AM TEN OF THOSE SERVING AS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WHERE
10:09:53AM HOLISTICALLY WE HAVE OVER FIVE CRAs THAT COME UNDER MY
10:09:58AM PURVIEW AND FUNCTION AS THREE, TWO OF WHICH WE WORK ON AUTO
10:10:02AM PILOT, BUT OUR DOWNTOWN IS A COMPROMISE OF THREE DIFFERENT
10:10:06AM CRAs WHICH WE OVERALL MANAGE ON FOCUS ON ALL THINGS, FROM
10:10:11AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TO MAKE SURE IT IS PRESENTABLE TO ALL
10:10:15AM ISSUES OF BUSINESS.
10:10:16AM SO AS I MENTIONED, WHEN I ORIGINALLY STARTED THERE, I WAS
10:10:21AM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
10:10:24AM TO GROW, TO A LARGE EXTENT PART OF THAT, MY INITIAL OUTTAKE
10:10:28AM WHEN I GOT TO THAT POSITION WAS THAT OF ENERGY, AND GETTING
10:10:32AM THINGS DONE.
10:10:32AM I THINK THAT WAS NOTED WHEN THAT POSITION BECAME AVAILABLE
10:10:35AM SO I WAS FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND HAVE
10:10:37AM CONTINUED IN THAT.
10:10:39AM PRIOR TO THAT, MY BACKGROUND HAS BEEN IN COMMERCIAL REAL
10:10:42AM ESTATE.
10:10:42AM SO I WORKED WITH AN INTERNATIONAL INVESTMENT FIRM, A LITTLE
10:10:47AM BIT MORE NATURAL, WORKING ON RETAIL IMPROVEMENT AS WELL AS
10:10:53AM SALES WHICH LED ME ACTUALLY TO WHAT I DO NOW.
10:10:56AM I ORIGINALLY CAME IN AND JOINED THE CRA TO HELP THEM WITH
10:10:59AM THEIR RETAIL IMPROVEMENT AND HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN
10:11:02AM BRINGING IN PROPERTIES TO DOWNTOWN, AS WELL AS GROCERS TO
10:11:08AM THE AREA AS WELL.
10:11:10AM I AM HAPPY -- HOW I CAN BE A GREAT ASSET TO THE TAMPA
10:11:19AM COMMUNITY.
10:11:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
10:11:21AM BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:11:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING AGAIN, SIR.
10:11:30AM I DID MAKE THAT CALL TO COMMISSIONER HILL IN ORLANDO.
10:11:35AM >>DAVID BARILLA: GOOD, GOOD.
10:11:37AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WAITING FOR HIM TO CALL ME BACK.
10:11:39AM BUT I LOOK AT YOUR EXPERIENCE AS A REALTOR.
10:11:44AM I HAVE ALWAYS SAID FROM DAY ONE WE NEED TO BUY PROPERTY, TO
10:11:52AM CONTROL THE NARRATIVE THAT WE DON'T DO.
10:11:54AM AS THE CRA DIRECTOR, HOW WOULD YOU COME IN AND DEAL WITH OUR
10:11:59AM CRA DOLLARS AS RELATES TO REAL ESTATE?
10:12:02AM BECAUSE I FEEL THAT IF YOU DON'T BUY PROPERTY, OR CONTRACT
10:12:09AM NOT PUT ON THE TABLE IN SOME OF OUR AREAS, BUT COME IN AND
10:12:15AM PUT DOWN CONTRACTS.
10:12:16AM I THINK THAT'S KIND OF BACKWARDS.
10:12:17AM SO HOW WOULD YOU AS A CRA DIRECTOR HANDLE THAT OR WHAT WOULD
10:12:21AM BE YOUR PHILOSOPHY ON IT?
10:12:22AM >>DAVID BARILLA: MY FIRST COMPONENT, COUNCILMAN, APPROACH
10:12:27AM THAT FROM A CRA PIECE, AND WE PURCHASE A LOT OF PROPERTY AND
10:12:32AM TO A LARGE EXTENT FOCUSED ON BOTH AFFORDABLE HOUSING
10:12:35AM DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS ASSEMBLAGE TO OPENLY ALLOW FOR MORE
10:12:40AM INTENSE DEVELOPMENT.
10:12:43AM I'M NOT SURE THE CRA IS NIMBLE ENOUGH FOR THOSE COMPONENTS.
10:12:47AM WHEN WE WORK IN THE FAST MARKET WE HAVE SEEN THE PAST YEARS,
10:12:53AM DECADE AT THIS POINT, PRIVATE SECTOR CAN MOVE FASTER THAN
10:12:56AM THE GOVERNMENT CAN, SO TO MAKE SURE EVERY YEAR WHEN PUTTING
10:13:00AM THE BUDGETS TOGETHER THAT WE HAVE A LINE ITEM THAT'S NOTED
10:13:03AM FOR REAL ESTATE ACQUISITION OR REAL ESTATE TYPE LINE ITEMS,
10:13:07AM AND THEN BEYOND THE CONSISTENT BOTH WHAT I CONSIDER
10:13:09AM PROACTIVE SEARCH FOR IDENTIFYING WHAT ARE THOSE STRATEGIC
10:13:13AM SITES THAT WE NEED TO BE PURSUING.
10:13:15AM MAYBE THEY ARE ON THE MARKETS.
10:13:17AM MAYBE THEY ARE NOT.
10:13:18AM BUT IF THEY ARE MAKE SURE WE HAVE OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO
10:13:21AM ANALYZE THEM, DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE, MAKING SURE THERE ARE
10:13:24AM NOT ISSUES THAT WE ARE UNAWARE OF AND THEN BRING FORWARD
10:13:28AM APPROPRIATE PURCHASES, WHETHER THAT IS TO ASSEMBLE THE SITE
10:13:32AM AND LOOKING AT ACQUIRING MORE TO GET LARGER DEVELOPMENTS, OR
10:13:36AM VICE VERSA IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC TARGETED DEVELOPMENT IN
10:13:40AM MIND, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CULTIVATED AND BROUGHT ALONG
10:13:43AM IN THAT PROCESS BUT I THIS I THEY NEED TO BE CONSISTENTLY
10:13:46AM VETTED AND NOT JUST NECESSARILY WAITING FOR THE
10:13:49AM OPPORTUNITIES TO COME TO PLAY, AN ACTIVE PROCESS AND
10:13:53AM CONTINUAL PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THOSE OPPORTUNITIES
10:13:56AM COME UP WE ARE EITHER CREATING THEM A PERSON AT THE TABLE.
10:14:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND, THE CRA DOES HAVE CAPITAL, BUT WE
10:14:06AM DON'T LEVERAGE THAT CAPITAL WITH PUBLIC BANKS OR
10:14:09AM INSTITUTIONS TO BE ABLE TO GET MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK.
10:14:14AM ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH ANY INSTITUTION OR THE PHILOSOPHY OF
10:14:18AM TRYING TO DEAL WITH OTHER OUTSIDE SOURCES BESIDES OUR CRA AS
10:14:22AM A FUNDING SOURCE TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUR SMALL MINORITIES AND
10:14:30AM MINORITY COMMUNITIES WHERE BANKS DON'T TALK TO THEM.
10:14:33AM I IMAGINE WE COULD HAVE A GRANT, BUT HAVE THE DOLLARS ON
10:14:36AM HAND.
10:14:39AM SO DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS OF CREATING THINGS OF THAT
10:14:43AM MAGNITUDE?
10:14:45AM >>DAVID BARILLA: YES, I HAVE.
10:14:46AM SPECIFICALLY I CAN SPEAK TO -- WE SPOKE A LITTLE BIT
10:14:50AM YESTERDAY WHERE WE ARE WORKING ON SINGLE-FAMILY AFFORDABLE
10:14:53AM HOUSING ULTIMATELY, AND OUR HISTORICALLY AFRICAN AMERICAN
10:15:00AM COMMUNITIES, THE ON SET TO DO THAT.
10:15:01AM THERE HAVE NOT BEEN SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES BUILT IN THAT
10:15:04AM NEIGHBORHOOD IN OVER A DECADE.
10:15:06AM IT'S NOT FOR LACK OF EFFORT.
10:15:08AM BUT IT JUST WOULD NOT BE SUCCESSFUL.
10:15:10AM ULTIMATELY, I LED A PROGRAM TO DELIVER THE FIRST HOMES THAT
10:15:14AM HAD EVER BEEN DELIVERED THERE, AND THEN ENSURE THAT THEY
10:15:17AM WERE DELIVERED TO AFFORDABLE HOMEBUYERS AS WELL AS --
10:15:22AM HOMEBUYERS.
10:15:22AM THE WAY WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT WAS THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS LIKE
10:15:25AM YOU MENTIONED.
10:15:26AM WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO BRING THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS TO THE
10:15:29AM TABLE SO THAT AN APPLICANT, HOME BUYER, CAN PURCHASE ONE OF
10:15:35AM THESE HOMES FOR AS LITTLE AS $1,000 DOWN.
10:15:38AM HOW WE DID THAT IS WE PARTNERED WITH BOTH A NEW CRA PROGRAM
10:15:42AM THAT OFFERED DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
10:15:44AM WE MADE SURE WORKING WITH THOSE DIFFERENT INSTITUTIONS
10:15:46AM FIGURING OUT WHAT POSITIONS THEY WERE WILLING TO BE FROM A
10:15:50AM MORTGAGE PERSPECTIVE.
10:15:51AM SOME WERE ONLY WILLING TO GO TO SECOND.
10:15:53AM WE HAD TO CONVINCE SOME TO GO THIRD.
10:15:55AM WE KNEW WE HAD TO MAKE THE COMMITMENT TO THE AREA SO WE NOT
10:16:00AM ONLY LAYERED OUR OWN DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, WE BROUGHT IN
10:16:04AM COUNTY FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, ALSO LOOKED TO A PROGRAM AT THE
10:16:07AM WELLS FARGO WHICH WAS AVAILABLE ESSENTIALLY AT THE TIME TO
10:16:10AM BRING IN ADDITIONAL AS WELL.
10:16:13AM SO WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE IN AND IS A PROGRAM THAT'S STILL
10:16:17AM MANAGED TODAY AND HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR THAT
10:16:20AM COMMUNITY.
10:16:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MENTIONED ABOUT INTERNATIONAL BANK OR
10:16:25AM SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND AN IDEA EVEN AT THE CRA CONFERENCE,
10:16:30AM THEY TALKED ABOUT OPEN LENDING INSTITUTIONS.
10:16:34AM I WANT A DIRECTOR WHO CAN NOTICE OR HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE OF
10:16:37AM THESE INSTITUTIONS TO HELP THOSE WHO CANNOT GET MONEY, TO
10:16:41AM GET MONEY, TO START A BUSINESS, BE ABLE TO WORK ON THEIR
10:16:45AM BUSINESS, AND THAT'S WHAT THE CONFERENCE SAID ABOUT BANKING
10:16:51AM INSTITUTIONS.
10:16:52AM SO ANY EXPERIENCE THERE OR KNOWLEDGE OF THAT?
10:16:56AM >>DAVID BARILLA: YES, SIR.
10:16:57AM THIS IS A PROJECT THAT I SPOKE TO YESTERDAY, WITH AN
10:16:59AM INTERNATIONAL BANKING THAT HAD FORECLOSED ON A MIXED USE
10:17:04AM DEVELOPMENT IN OUR DOWNTOWN AND WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY FIRST
10:17:08AM ASSIGNED PROJECTS WHEN I CAME ONTO THE CRA.
10:17:10AM AS YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT A LOT OF THINGS WERE NOT BEING
10:17:15AM FINISHED.
10:17:17AM I WAS SUCCESSFUL IN WORKING WITH THEM, AND THAT PROJECT DID
10:17:21AM GET FINISHED.
10:17:22AM WE HAD TO RENEGOTIATE A VERY COMPLICATED AMENDED AND
10:17:25AM RESTATED EXTENDED AGREEMENT THAT WENT TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT
10:17:30AM BANKS BUT ULTIMATELY GOT THE PROJECT DONE.
10:17:33AM AS FAR AS LEVERAGING RELATIONSHIPS AND BEING KNOWLEDGEABLE
10:17:36AM ABOUT COMPONENTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN WHATEVER AREA IT MAY
10:17:41AM BE, WHETHER RESIDENTIAL, WHETHER SMALL BUSINESSES LOOKING TO
10:17:44AM START UP, YES.
10:17:45AM SO I ALSO AM ON THE BOARD FOR WHAT WE CALL MIBO, WHICH IS A
10:17:50AM MINORITY AND WOMEN INITIATIVE PROGRAM, BUT WE OFFER A
10:17:53AM $44,000 GRANT FOR START-UP COSTS, AND TO A LARGE EXTENT OF
10:17:58AM THAT, I WORKED WITH OBVIOUSLY NOT REVAMPING THAT PROGRAM,
10:18:03AM WHATS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAD THE APPROACH TO PAIR THOSE
10:18:10AM BUSINESSES WITH A FINANCIAL CONSULTANT THAT WOULD GUIDE THEM
10:18:13AM AND HELP THEM PUTT A PLAN TOGETHER SO WE COULD BRIDGE THEM,
10:18:18AM BRING THEM TO BANKS, NOW WITH MUCH MORE INFORMATION THAT A
10:18:23AM TRADITIONAL SMALL BUSINESS START-UP WOULD HAVE, TO LEVERAGE
10:18:25AM THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND REALLY GET THE FUNDING THEY NEED AND
10:18:28AM LEVERAGE THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THINGS EVEN MORE OF
10:18:31AM AN IMPACT.
10:18:31AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LAST QUESTION.
10:18:38AM MS. TRAVIS AND MR. DRUMGO, AND -- I'M LOOKING FOR A DIRECTOR
10:18:48AM TO COME IN AND MOVE FAST.
10:18:51AM WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT.
10:18:53AM THE FIRST 90 DAYS, HOW DO WE GET THIS TRAIN MOVING?
10:19:00AM >>DAVID BARILLA: SURE.
10:19:01AM ABSOLUTELY.
10:19:01AM I THINK TO THAT EXTENT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THRIVE ON, I
10:19:04AM THINK I HAVE A LOT OF ENERGY, AND I AM HOPEFUL THAT BECOMES
10:19:08AM APPARENT TO PEOPLE.
10:19:10AM HOW DO I APPROACH THAT, OR WOULD APPROACH THAT COMING INTO
10:19:13AM THIS ORGANIZATION?
10:19:14AM AS I MENTIONED YESTERDAY, I WAS A MEMBER, FIRST I WOULD WANT
10:19:19AM TO SIT DOWN WITH ALL OF YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE BACKGROUND
10:19:21AM THAT YOU HAVE IN THE EXPERIENCE OF, A, I COULD BE
10:19:24AM KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THAT.
10:19:25AM SECOND OF WHICH ULTIMATELY WORKING WITH THE STAFF AND
10:19:27AM DETERMINING, IS THE STAFF APPROPRIATE FROM SO ALL ARE
10:19:35AM CAPABLE OF EXECUTING ON THE PATHS THAT ARE BEFORE US AND
10:19:38AM WHAT CHANGES POTENTIALLY NEED TO BE MADE, AND MAKING
10:19:41AM APPROPRIATE STRATEGIC PLAN AND FIGURING OUT, OKAY, HERE IS
10:19:45AM WHAT OUR GUIDING LIGHT IS GOING TO BE, FIRST ORDER OF
10:19:48AM BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE ADDRESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR
10:19:50AM WHATEVER THAT COMPONENT MAY BE AND MAKING SURE ALL THE
10:19:53AM PIECES ARE ALIGNED TO DO THAT.
10:19:55AM THAT COULD BE CREATING NEW PROGRAMS, THAT COULD BE LOOKING
10:19:58AM AT PIECES OF REAL ESTATE.
10:19:59AM I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS TODAY, BUT I THINK ALL OF THOSE
10:20:02AM THINGS COME INTO PLAY AND MAKE SURE THAT GROUNDWORK AND THAT
10:20:05AM FOUNDATION IS SOLID, THAT HOPEFULLY THE BOARD CAN UNIFY ON A
10:20:09AM VISION THAT WE ALL AGREE ON, SO THAT AS THINGS COME UP WITH
10:20:13AM APPROPRIATE APPROVALS WE ARE UNIFIED IN THAT NEXT STEP AND
10:20:16AM CAN MAKE THAT SWIFT AND POSITIVE PROGRESS.
10:20:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:20:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:20:25AM AND THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO TALK YESTERDAY.
10:20:29AM THE FUNNY THING, BOARD MEMBER GUDES MENTIONED THE BANKS.
10:20:33AM THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS I HAVE SPOKEN TO SEVERAL BANKS AND
10:20:36AM THEY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY THAT THEY WANT TO PUT IN BUT
10:20:39AM BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET THE BASIC THINGS PUT IN DIDN'T EACH
10:20:42AM PROPOSE IT.
10:20:42AM UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T TALK OUTSIDE THESE MEETINGS, BUT
10:20:45AM THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT BANKS WANT TO DO.
10:20:47AM THEY HAVE MONEY THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PUT IN, EITHER
10:20:51AM PHILANTHROPIC MONEY OR LOAN MONEY AND THERE WAS NOBODY FOR
10:20:55AM THEM TO WORK WITH.
10:20:56AM YOU MENTIONED TO ME ABOUT -- WE TRIED TO CREATE A PROGRAM
10:20:59AM LIKE THAT THREE YEARS AGO AND WERE TOLD WE COULDN'T.
10:21:02AM IS THAT PART OF THE CRA OR IS IT A CITY THING THAT THE --
10:21:06AM >>DAVID BARILLA: IT'S A CRA PROGRAM.
10:21:08AM WE SIGNED UP TO $40,000 FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE STARTING UP
10:21:11AM SPECIFICALLY IN OUR PARAMOUR COMMUNITY, FOUND IN THE EAST
10:21:16AM TAMPA COMMUNITY, AND HELPING THEM BOTH IN THEIR START-UP OR
10:21:19AM EXPANSION COSTS.
10:21:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT'S THE TOTAL BUDGET OF IT.
10:21:22AM >>DAVID BARILLA: WHAT IS THE TOTAL BUDGET?
10:21:24AM APPROXIMATELY A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
10:21:25AM WE ACTUALLY NEVER USED THAT MUCH.
10:21:28AM WE ALWAYS HAD ENOUGH TO FUND THE APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE.
10:21:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: GREAT, THANK YOU.
10:21:32AM AND TO KIND OF ASK A NEW AUDIENCE QUESTION OR SLIGHTLY
10:21:36AM DIFFERENT QUESTION THAN BOARD MEMBER GUDES SAID, YOU KNOW,
10:21:40AM WE TALKED YESTERDAY ABOUT SOME -- MY BACKGROUND IS ECONOMICS
10:21:44AM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:21:46AM I HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT CRA, BECAUSE MOST CITIES CENTER
10:21:52AM EVERYTHING AROUND REAL ESTATE AND THE WAY THEY MEASURE
10:21:55AM SUCCESS IS THEY LOOK AT HOW MUCH YEAR THE TIF MONEY IS GOING
10:21:59AM UP AND THE WAY YOU GET MONEY TO GO UP BECAUSE OF PROPERTY
10:22:01AM TAXES, IS THAT THEY HAVE TO BRING MORE REAL ESTATE IN,
10:22:04AM ESPECIALLY BIG REAL ESTATE, AND THE WAY YOU GET BIG REAL
10:22:07AM ESTATE TRADITIONALLY IS THEY GIVE OUT -- THE LAST MAYOR GAVE
10:22:14AM OUT TENS OF MILLIONS OF SUBSIDIES TO PRIVATE SECTOR TO
10:22:17AM INCENTIVIZE THEM, AND IN 20 YEARS WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A
10:22:22AM RETURN INVESTMENT BECAUSE THE PROPERTY TAX MONEY WILL
10:22:24AM OUTPACE THAT.
10:22:26AM MY PHILOSOPHY IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
10:22:28AM IT IS THAT FIRST OF ALL CRAs ARE ALLOWED TO USE THIS MONEY
10:22:36AM BY OTHER PART OF THE CITY.
10:22:37AM IT'S AN INVESTMENT OR SUBSIDY BY OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY SO
10:22:40AM WE HAVE TO BE CUSTODIANS OF THE MONEY, AND THE WHOLE CITY
10:22:43AM HAS TO SEE THE BENEFIT OF IT.
10:22:45AM AND IT CAN'T JUST BE WHAT I CALL THE EDIFICE COMPLEX, IT
10:22:49AM CAN'T BE SHINY NEW BUILDINGS OR -- IF YOU LOOK AT THE BEST
10:22:53AM CITIES IN THE WORLD THEY DON'T MEASURE THE NEW CONDOS THEY
10:22:56AM HAVE, THE NEW BUILDINGS THAT THEY HAVE.
10:22:58AM INSTEAD THEY LOOK AT ECONOMIC NUMBERS, LIKE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD
10:23:02AM INCOME.
10:23:03AM AN ARTICLE CAME OUT YESTERDAY THAT SAID OUR REGIONAL MEDIAN
10:23:06AM HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS DOWN, AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE TAMPA
10:23:08AM NUMBERS BUT THE TAMPA NUMBERS HAVE BEEN HORRIBLE.
10:23:10AM TAMPA OUT OF THE SIX LEADING CITIES IN THE STATE HAS BEEN
10:23:13AM NUMBER 5 REGULARLY AND NOT ONLY MEDIAN HOUSE INCOME BUT HOME
10:23:16AM OWNERSHIP RATE, DISPARITY OF BLACKS AND WHITES AND MEN AND
10:23:21AM WOMEN.
10:23:21AM IF WE ARE GOING TO INVEST THIS MONEY, REAL ESTATE IS FINE,
10:23:25AM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET OUT OF THE CYCLE OF SUBSIDIZING REAL
10:23:27AM ESTATE SO WE CAN HOPE TO GET MONEY INTO USING THAT MONEY AND
10:23:31AM SUBSIDIZE MOWER REAL ESTATE.
10:23:32AM YOUR BACKGROUND IS HEAVY, HEAVY REAL ESTATE ESPECIALLY
10:23:36AM INCENTIVIZING PRIVATE SECTOR REAL ESTATE.
10:23:40AM MEMBER GUDES WAS MORE LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR
10:23:42AM INCENTIVIZING NEW BUSINESS OR THINGS LIKE THAT WHICH I WOULD
10:23:46AM BE IN FAVOR OF.
10:23:47AM BUT ARE THERE OTHER THINGS IN YOUR EXPERIENCE OR YOUR
10:23:50AM ASPIRATIONS THAT YOU COULD FOCUS ON SIDES SUBSIDIZING
10:23:53AM PRIVATE SECTOR REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT?
10:23:55AM >>DAVID BARILLA: ABSOLUTELY.
10:23:56AM THE OTHER HAT THAT I WEAR IS DOWNTOWN -- AND CONTRARY TO THE
10:24:04AM NAME OF THAT GROUP, THE WAY IT FUNCTIONS, WHEN YOU THINK
10:24:08AM ABOUT IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS, THOSE ARE BASED ON, YESTERDAY,
10:24:14AM THE SOFTWARE IF YOU WILL OF THE DOWNTOWN ACTIVITIES, THOSE
10:24:18AM SPECIAL COMPONENTS OF PRICE MAKING CONCEPTS THAT REALLY MAKE
10:24:21AM THE GREAT CITIES POTENTIALLY THAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO.
10:24:24AM SO IN THAT WORK THAT WE DO, AND ALSO I KIND OF OVERSEE, WE
10:24:29AM HAVE DONE A -- DONE OF HOST OF COMPONENTS TO ACTIVATE OUR
10:24:34AM DOWNTOWN, IF ANYONE HAS BEEN THERE INFORM A NUMBER OF OUR
10:24:37AM EVENTS, WE JUST HAD A BIG ONE GOING ON NOW CALLED MEMOIR
10:24:43AM AGENCY HOE WE WERE ONE OF THE INITIAL FOUNDERS OF TEN YEARS
10:24:46AM AGO, A VERY SMALL EVENT WITH A $5,000 GRANT AND THAT HAS
10:24:50AM GALLON TO A VERY LARGE ANNUAL BUDGET, AND THAT BRINGS ALL
10:24:54AM INDIVIDUALS TO OUR AREA.
10:24:56AM SO THAT COMPONENT, THE MARKETING, THE BRAND, DOWNTOWN, A
10:25:01AM PLACE YOU WANT TO BE FOR A BUSINESS, BUT ALSO FOR LEISURE.
10:25:05AM IT'S ABSOLUTELY THINGS THAT I DO.
10:25:09AM ON CRA, I THINK IT'S BROAD SCALE.
10:25:12AM I THINK THE CONTEXT OF MY BACKGROUND IS REAL ESTATE IS
10:25:15AM COMPLETELY ACCURATE.
10:25:17AM THE CONTACT AS WELL OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SOMETHING THAT
10:25:20AM I PERSONALLY DO FOR OUR ORGANIZATION.
10:25:22AM SO BOTH ON IN-FILL COMPONENT AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE INFILL
10:25:27AM COMPONENT OPPORTUNITIES TO ALLOW FAMILIES TO BUILD NEST
10:25:30AM QUESTIONS EGGS AND HAVE RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS, WORKING WITH
10:25:34AM TAX CREDIT DEVELOPERS AND ENSURING THAT WE HAVE IN ONE
10:25:38AM SPECIFIC SITUATION WE WORKED WITH A LAND TRUST, IN ORDER TO
10:25:42AM DO THAT, WORK WITH A DEVELOPER AND OTHERS WORKING MORE
10:25:47AM LOCALLY.
10:25:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF.
10:25:50AM I COULD LISTEN TO YOUR ANSWER FOR A LONG TIME AND MY
10:25:53AM COLLEAGUES WILL ASK.
10:25:55AM COULD I ASK ALSO, COULD YOU GIVE US ONE OR TWO SHORT
10:25:58AM EXAMPLES OF WHERE YOU DEMONSTRATED LEADERSHIP, WHERE YOU
10:26:01AM FACED ADVERSITY, WHERE IT LOOKED IMPOSSIBLE OR DIFFICULT TO
10:26:05AM ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING AND YOU WERE ABLE TO LEAD AND
10:26:08AM ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL?
10:26:09AM >>DAVID BARILLA: SURE, HAPPY TO.
10:26:11AM SO IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE, AND IN 2016, ORLANDO WAS THE
10:26:17AM VICTIM OF --
10:26:21AM IN THAT TIME, GOT TOGETHER A TASK FORCE TO GALVANIZE
10:26:28AM INTERNAL CITY RESOURCES TO REALLY ADDRESS THAT COMPONENT
10:26:31AM THAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:26:34AM I WAS ASKED TO CHAIR THAT, WHICH I GLADLY ACCEPTED, BUT IT
10:26:39AM PUT ME IN A POSITION WRITE WAS ASKED TO LEAD BOTH MEMBERS OF
10:26:42AM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, DEPUTY CHIEFS, AND THE POLICE
10:26:45AM DEPARTMENT, AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND THE CODE
10:26:48AM ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:26:50AM SO WE HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES OF PEOPLE IN THE
10:26:53AM ROOM, ALL OF WHICH ARE GREAT PEOPLE.
10:26:55AM THE CHARGE THAT I THAT I WAS GIVEN WAS TO BRING ORLANDO TO
10:26:59AM THE FOREFRONT OF WHAT WE NOW CALL A SOCIAL ECONOMY
10:27:04AM MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE AND I HAD TO DO THAT IN ABOUT SIX
10:27:08AM MONTHS.
10:27:11AM SO GALVANIZING THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, ALL WITH VERY WELL
10:27:15AM INTENTION, AND I CALL ALL OF THEM MY FRIENDS TODAY.
10:27:19AM AS YOU CAN IMAGINE GETTING ALL THEIR INDIVIDUAL INPUTS, AND
10:27:24AM A VERY NEW COMPONENT, WHERE THE WORLD'S EYES WERE ON
10:27:30AM ORLANDO, IT WAS VERY UNIQUE, VERY CHALLENGING, I WOUND UP
10:27:34AM GALVANIZING THE A GROUP OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS WELL AND
10:27:37AM WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT THAT I PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.
10:27:40AM LATER ON THAT YEAR, AND IT WAS SUCCESSFUL IN BOTH
10:27:45AM RECOMMENDING A STRUCTURE THAT WE NOW HAVE, WHERE WE HAVE A
10:27:49AM PERMANENT POSITION THAT WORKS WITH THE SOCIAL ECONOMY, THAT
10:27:53AM PERSON WORKS DIRECTLY UNDER ME, ALSO HAVE A COMMUNITY OF
10:27:57AM COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BE A SOUNDING BOARD AND BROUGHT ORLANDO
10:27:59AM AT THAT TIME TO BE ONE OF THE -- I THINK WE WERE THE SIXTH
10:28:03AM IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE, AND
10:28:08AM HAVE GOTTEN THE APPROPRIATE ATTENTION IN BEING NOW A LEADER
10:28:10AM IN THAT REALM AND APPROPRIATE SPECIAL ECONOMY MANAGEMENT.
10:28:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO MORE QUICK QUESTIONS.
10:28:20AM SORRY, SENSITIVE QUESTION.
10:28:22AM BUT CREATED TWO PROGRAMS THAT RESULTED IN INVESTIGATIVE
10:28:29AM REPORTS BY THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES," ONE CALLED BIKING WHILE
10:28:34AM BLACK, ANOTHER CALLED RENTING WHILE BLACK.
10:28:36AM THEY BOTH RESULTED IN U.S. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CIVIL RIGHTS
10:28:41AM INVESTIGATIONS, RIGHT NOW SINCE DECEMBER THERE'S A CURRENT
10:28:43AM CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATION NOT CREATED BY US BUT CREATED BY
10:28:47AM THE LAST MAYOR.
10:28:48AM WHEN BIKING WHILE BLACK CAME OUT, I ASKED ONE OF THE
10:28:52AM REPORTERS WHO WAS THEN GOING TO ST. LOUIS TO COVER CIVIL
10:28:57AM RIGHTS, I THINK OF WHAT IS YOUR OBSERVATION OF THE BLACK
10:29:01AM COMMUNITY IN TAMPA?
10:29:02AM AND SHE WAS AFRICAN AMERICAN AND SHE SAID, UNLIKE
10:29:05AM ST. PETERSBURG THAT HAS A DIALOGUE WHERE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE
10:29:09AM THEY HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE, IN TAMPA PEOPLE FEEL
10:29:12AM OPPRESSED AND THEY FEEL THAT PEOPLE AREN'T LISTENING, THEY
10:29:15AM AREN'T HEARING, AND DURING THAT SAME TIME IT WAS THE BIGGEST
10:29:18AM ECONOMIC BOOM IN THE AMERICAN HISTORY AND AFRICAN AMERICAN
10:29:22AM EITHER WENT SIDEWAYS OR REDUCED IN THE IMPORTANT ECONOMIC
10:29:28AM METRICS.
10:29:29AM SO WE NOW ARE GOING INTO RECESSION, THERE ARE GREAT
10:29:33AM SENSITIVITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:29:34AM HOW ARE YOU THE BEST PERSON TO REACH ACROSS ALL DIFFERENT
10:29:39AM KINDS OF DIVERSITY TO HELP US MANAGE THAT DIFFICULT
10:29:41AM SITUATION?
10:29:43AM >>DAVID BARILLA: SO I AM BECAUSE IT'S WHAT I DO NOW.
10:29:47AM SO IN THE CONTEXT OF THE WORK THAT I DO, AND I AM TALKING
10:29:51AM ABOUT DOWNTOWN, OUR DOWNTOWN IS FOCUSED PRETTY MUCH OF TWO
10:29:56AM VERY HISTORICALLY DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:29:58AM WE ALREADY MENTIONED PARAMOUR, AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY,
10:30:02AM AND THEN THE CBD, AND SERVES DIFFERENTLY.
10:30:08AM THE PURPOSE MUCH BREAKING THAT GAP AND MAKING SURE, THE
10:30:12AM QUESTION I ALWAYS ASK MYSELF, IN ANY PROGRAM WE DO, HOW ARE
10:30:16AM WE MAKING SURE THIS IS ACCESSIBLE FOR ALL?
10:30:19AM IT'S ALSO IN YOU HEARD ME IN MY EARLIER ANSWER, I SAID A LOT
10:30:22AM OF OUR PROGRAMS ARE ONLY AVAILABLE FOR VERY SPECIFIC
10:30:25AM NEEDS-BASED COMPONENTS IN OUR PARAMOUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE
10:30:29AM NEEDS ARE DIFFERENT.
10:30:30AM SO I'M THE RIGHT PERSON BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT CONTEXT,
10:30:33AM THAT YOU HAVE TO APPROACH EACH INDIVIDUAL SITUATION WITH THE
10:30:36AM UNIQUE CONTEXT, MAKING SURE ALL PEOPLE ARE AT THE TABLE.
10:30:41AM I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE COMPETENT IN WHAT THEY ALL KNOW BUT
10:30:46AM HAVING A SEAT AT THE TABLE, PRIVATE DOWNTOWN ORLANDO, THE
10:30:53AM CONSULTANTS PROPOSED TO ME WENT UP THERE THE PROCESS WITH
10:30:55AM THEM AND WORKED WITH THEM TO RESHAPE THAT PROPOSAL TO ENSURE
10:30:59AM THAT WE WERE USING THE JEDI PRINCIPAL, JUSTICE, EQUITY AND
10:31:03AM INCLUSION AND DIVERSITY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS, SO AS
10:31:07AM I MENTIONED BEFORE THROUGH EVERY STEP THEY WERE TAKING THAT
10:31:09AM THEY WERE ENSURING THAT EVERYONE WAS ACCOUNTED FOR ALONG THE
10:31:13AM WAY.
10:31:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION.
10:31:15AM AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, YESTERDAY, YOU HAD THREE BIG
10:31:19AM BLOCKS, KIND OF DOWNTOWN, WHICH INCLUDES A LOT OF DIFFERENT
10:31:21AM AREAS, AND IT'S ABOUT $54 MILLION A YEAR AND THEN YOU HAD
10:31:26AM TWO OTHERS, UNIVERSAL AND THE MALL WHICH ARE KIND OF PASS
10:31:30AM THROUGH TO PAY BONDS.
10:31:31AM THE BOTTOM LINE IS OURS IS LIKE 45 MILLION.
10:31:34AM YOURS IS A LOT BIGGER.
10:31:36AM WHY WOULD YOU COME TO TAMPA INSTEAD OF WORKING ON A BIGGER
10:31:38AM ONE?
10:31:40AM >>DAVID BARILLA: SURE.
10:31:41AM I THINK THE CONTEXT, OBVIOUSLY, I'M ASSISTANT DIRECTOR NOW.
10:31:45AM IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO.
10:31:49AM THE OTHER IS THE AREAS THAT YOU HAVE.
10:31:51AM SO YOU HAVE EIGHT DIFFERENT VERY DISTINCT AREAS, ALL WITH
10:31:55AM VARIOUS NEEDS.
10:31:56AM I THINK I PROVIDE A VERY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY TO SEE CHANGE
10:32:01AM AND BE IMPACTFUL IN THAT PROCESS AND REALLY HAVE THE
10:32:05AM COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY SUPPORTIVE BUT ECSTATIC WITH THE
10:32:10AM OUTCOME.
10:32:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: QUICKLY IF I MAY.
10:32:12AM YOU REPORT TO THE MAYOR, AND IN THIS CASE YOU ARE GOING TO
10:32:15AM BE REPORTING TO THE CRA BOARD, NOT CITY COUNCIL.
10:32:19AM WE TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
10:32:21AM DO YOU THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A HARD TRANSITION?
10:32:23AM HOW WILL YOU ADJUST DO THAT?
10:32:25AM >>DAVID BARILLA: SURE.
10:32:26AM I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE A HARD TRANSITION.
10:32:28AM I THINK THERE WILL OBVIOUSLY BE A CONTEXTUAL LEARNING
10:32:31AM PROCESS BOTH STAFF AND THE REST.
10:32:35AM I DON'T THINK IT'S A HARD TRANSITION.
10:32:37AM AND WE ARE REPORTING TO SOMEONE WHETHER THAT BE A BORED OR
10:32:42AM PERSON TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM ULTIMATELY WORKING TOWARDS
10:32:45AM THAT, THE ULTIMATE GOAL AND VISION OF THOSE THAT ARE THERE
10:32:50AM THAT I REPRESENT.
10:32:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:32:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DIDN'T WANT TO GO THERE TODAY, BUT WE
10:33:01AM HAVE TO, YOU KNOW.
10:33:05AM WE THE CITY OF TAMPA HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A STRONG FORM OF
10:33:09AM MAYOR OF GOVERNMENT.
10:33:15AM AT TIMES, WE HAVE DISPUTES, DISAGREEMENTS, SOME GOOD, SOME
10:33:25AM BAD.
10:33:26AM I'M A COMPROMISE KIND OF PERSON.
10:33:28AM AND I WANT A DIRECTOR, TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU ARE THE CRA
10:33:34AM DIRECTOR, YOU ANSWER TO THE CRA BOARD IT.
10:33:38AM BUT SAYING THAT, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ALSO WORK WITH MS.
10:33:43AM TRAVIS AND DRUMGO AND WORK FOR THE MAYOR.
10:33:46AM BUT WHAT I CAN SAY ABOUT, TOO, IS THEY HAVE BEEN HERE, THEY
10:33:52AM HAVE BEEN FAIR AND HONOR AND TRANSPARENT TO THIS BOARD, AND
10:33:56AM THE BOARD TRUSTS WHAT SHE HAS BEEN DOING.
10:33:58AM SO, AGAIN, TO MR. CARLSON'S QUESTION, I'M A CANDID PERSON,
10:34:05AM YOU ANSWER TO THIS BOARD AND NOT ANSWER TO THE
10:34:08AM ADMINISTRATION.
10:34:09AM THE WAY THE CONTRACT IS WRITTEN, YOU ARE WORKING WITH THE
10:34:18AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.
10:34:19AM DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?
10:34:20AM >>DAVID BARILLA: I DO.
10:34:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
10:34:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST HAVE ONE.
10:34:25AM WHEN YOU MENTIONED, SIR, THE RESPONSIBILITY OF DIFFERENT
10:34:28AM ORGANIZATIONS, YOU SAID OF KIND OF OVERSEE.
10:34:31AM I FORGOT WHICH ONE IT WAS.
10:34:33AM WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
10:34:35AM >>DAVID BARILLA: I AM NOT SURE, AND I APOLOGIZE.
10:34:37AM I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF BOTH THE CRA AS WELL AS THE
10:34:41AM CBD SO I OVERSEE THEM BOTH.
10:34:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OKAY, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
10:34:46AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:34:47AM >>DAVID BARILLA: YES.
10:34:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT TECHNIQUES HAVE YOU USED TO MOTIVATE
10:34:55AM AND DRIVE YOUR TEAM TO SUCCEED?
10:34:58AM >>DAVID BARILLA: THE FIRST OF WHICH, PEOPLE ARE IMPORTANT
10:35:02AM TO ME, AND MY TEAM ARE ULTIMATELY IMPORTANT TO ME.
10:35:06AM I WAS FORTUNATE TO HAVE AFFORDED THE CITY OF ORLANDO
10:35:12AM EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR IN 2020.
10:35:16AM I VALUE MY PEOPLE.
10:35:18AM WHAT I DO ULTIMATELY TO MOTIVATE THEM, MY FIRST STEP IS
10:35:22AM UNDERSTANDING.
10:35:23AM I THINK IT'S HARD TO MOTIVATE SOMEBODY UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND
10:35:26AM WHAT MAKES THEM TICK, AND THAT'S A PROCESS, BY BUILDING THAT
10:35:29AM RELATIONSHIP.
10:35:30AM IDEALLY, BY MOTIVATING THEM, I WANT TO SET THE VISION.
10:35:33AM I NEVER ASK PEOPLE TO DO SOMETHING THAT I AM NOT WILLING TO
10:35:36AM DO AND I THINK ULTIMATELY MY STAFF, WHEN I SEE SOMETHING
10:35:41AM THAT'S EXCITED TO COME TO WORK IN THE MORNING AND WORKING
10:35:44AM THROUGHOUT THE DAY, AND STRIVING TOWARD THAT ULTIMATE GOAL.
10:35:47AM IT'S INSPIRING, AT LEAST KIND OF SETS THE STAGE OF WHAT'S
10:35:51AM EXPECTED.
10:35:51AM THE SECOND COMPONENT IS MAKING SURE THEY ARE APPROPRIATELY
10:35:54AM TRAINED IN WHAT THEY ARE DOING, SO THAT THEY HAVE ALL THE
10:35:58AM CAPABILITIES.
10:35:58AM IN ADDITION TO THAT THE TOOLS AT THEIR DISPOSAL, ULTIMATELY
10:36:03AM LEAD TO EXPECTATIONS, AND THE LAST IS HOLDING PEOPLE
10:36:09AM ACCOUNTABLE.
10:36:11AM I HAVE TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE EXPECTATIONS THAT
10:36:13AM WE ALL PUT FORTH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING CONTINUAL
10:36:17AM PROGRESS.
10:36:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
10:36:21AM CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE PROCESS AND ROLE YOU HAVE PLAYED IN
10:36:24AM RECRUITING BUSINESSES TO THE CRA?
10:36:29AM >>DAVID BARILLA: SO.
10:36:30AM SO I LEAD THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ARM FOR THE CRA, AND I
10:36:35AM WAS ECONOMIC COORDINATOR, IT WAS A -- I HAVE SOMEONE THAT
10:36:40AM DOES THAT NOW FOR ME BUT SO THE MOST SPECIFIC COMPONENT IS
10:36:45AM IDENTIFYING WHAT CORPORATIONS OFTENTIMES, LARGE AND SMALL,
10:36:50AM MAY BE A FIT FOR DOWNTOWN ORLANDO.
10:36:53AM WE WORK SPECIFICALLY WITH A LARGER ORGANIZATION, THE ORLANDO
10:36:57AM PARTNERSHIP, AND LIAISONS FOR OTHER RELOCATIONS, BUT
10:37:01AM IDENTIFYING, WORKING WITH THOSE INDIVIDUAL COMPANIES, I
10:37:04AM DEVELOPED A SPECIFIC INCENTIVE PROGRAM.
10:37:07AM AT THE TIME TO TARGET COMPANIES THAT WERE LOOKING TO MOVE
10:37:09AM INTO THE AREA.
10:37:11AM THE UNIQUE COMPONENT TO WHICH I HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE TO DO
10:37:15AM HAVE IS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO RELOCATE COMPANIES OUTSIDE OF
10:37:20AM THE CRA BOUNDARY TO THE CRA, AND THAT CAN ULTIMATELY BE
10:37:23AM POSSIBLE WHEN IT ULTIMATELY COMES TO TRYING TO DENOTE WHAT'S
10:37:27AM GOING TO MAKE SOMEONE MAKE THE DIFFERENCE IN SIGNING A LEASE
10:37:29AM WITHIN THE CRA OR OUTSIDE OF IT.
10:37:32AM AND DETERMINING WHAT THOSE SPECIFIC NEEDS ARE, COULD BE
10:37:36AM PARKING, IT QUO BE ACCESS TO TALENT, MAYBE THEY NEED TO BE
10:37:39AM CONNECTED WITH THE APPROPRIATE RESOURCES.
10:37:41AM BUT ALL OF THOSE, I THINK SUCCESSFUL IN BEING PART OF THE
10:37:44AM PROCESS THAT LEAD TO BRING THE HEADQUARTERS TO DOWNTOWN
10:37:48AM ORLANDO, WHICH IS A CRA, WHICH IS A PROCESS THAT THE CITY
10:37:52AM HAS BEEN THROUGH THREE PREVIOUS TIMES, THIS IS THE FOURTH
10:37:56AM ROUND AT THE TABLE WITH THEM, BUT WE ARE HAPPY AND
10:37:59AM SUCCESSFUL AND WORKED WITH TAX INCREMENT FINANCING COMPONENT
10:38:02AM TO DO THAT.
10:38:03AM BUT ALSO BRINGING THEM ALONG, AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS
10:38:08AM MENTIONING, ENSURING THAT THEY HAVE A PIECE IN THAT, THAT
10:38:12AM THEY ARE INTEGRATED IN THE COMMUNITY SO THEY HAVE A PROGRAM
10:38:17AM SHOWING HOW THEY ARE IMPACTING THE COMMUNITY AROUND THEM,
10:38:20AM HOW THEY ARE BRINGING PEOPLE IN, SHOWING THEM THE THINGS
10:38:22AM THAT THEY DO AND DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES AND GIVING THEM THE
10:38:25AM OPPORTUNITY TO ESSENTIALLY SEE THEMSELVES IN THAT SEAT AS
10:38:29AM THEY MOVE FORWARD.
10:38:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY LAST QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE
10:38:33AM COMMUNITY.
10:38:33AM AS YOU HEARD FROM PUBLIC COMMENT, EAST TAMPA IS READY TO
10:38:39AM PUSH THINGS THROUGH.
10:38:42AM I CAN FEEL YOUR ENERGY, BUT HOW DO YOU HELP EAST TAMPA --
10:38:51AM HOW DO YOU HELP BRIDGE THE COMMUNITY, AND WHAT THE BOARD
10:38:54AM WANTS, WITH STAFF, AND PUSH THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS
10:38:59AM ASKING FOR?
10:39:00AM >>DAVID BARILLA: SURE.
10:39:01AM SO I THINK THE INITIAL CONTEXT, WHAT I MENTIONED A LITTLE
10:39:05AM BIT EARLIER, WHICH IS GALVANIZING EVERYONE ON A UNIFIED
10:39:11AM DECISION.
10:39:11AM THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT'S ANYONE'S SOLE
10:39:15AM INDIVIDUAL VISION, OKAY, I WANT THIS.
10:39:18AM WHAT CAN WE ALL AGREE THAT NEEDS TO GET ADDRESSED, TO
10:39:22AM DETERMINE THAT IS OUR ULTIMATE PRIORITY, BRIDGING THOSE
10:39:25AM GAPS?
10:39:26AM AND AGAIN, ON RELATIONSHIPS, PEOPLE REALIZE THAT YOU HAVE
10:39:31AM THEIR BEST INTEREST AT HEART.
10:39:33AM THEY WILL AT LEAST GIVE YOU A SHOT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE
10:39:36AM ABLE TO DO THAT.
10:39:37AM SO I THINK I WOULD HANDLE THAT, ONE, BY LEARNING WHAT THE
10:39:41AM VISIONS OF THE BOARD WERE, LEARNING WHAT THE VISIONS OF THE
10:39:44AM COMMUNITY ARE, FINDING WHAT NEXUS THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT
10:39:47AM NEEDS TO BE HANDLED AND NEEDS TO BE HANDLED QUICKLY, AND
10:39:50AM ENSURING THAT THE PROGRAM, THE PRO AND THE FUNDS ARE ALL
10:39:55AM ALIGNED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN MAKE IT MOVE FORWARD.
10:40:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:40:02AM ANYONE ELSE?
10:40:03AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:40:03AM >>DAVID BARILLA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:40:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE ARE GOOD FOR A TWO-MINUTE BREAK
10:40:12AM TO BRING IN OUR NEXT CANDIDATE.
10:40:16AM (RECESS)
10:40:17AM
10:48:21AM (ROLL CALL)
10:48:35AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCIL.
10:48:41AM I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE ALLISON JUSTICE AND TELL YOU A
10:48:45AM LITTLE BIT ABOUT HERSELF.
10:48:46AM >>ALLISON JUSTICE: GOOD MORNING, BOARD MEMBERS, BOARD
10:48:50AM CHAIR.
10:48:50AM MY NAME IS ALLISON JUSTICE.
10:48:53AM I AM CURRENTLY RESIDING IN PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA.
10:49:01AM I WAS WITH THE WEST PALM BEACH CRA FOR EIGHT YEARS AS A
10:49:04AM DEPUTY INTERIM DIRECTOR, AND ACTUALLY JUST TO BACK UP A
10:49:07AM LITTLE, I KNOW YOU HAVE SEEN MY RESUMÉ, BUT I WORKED FOR A
10:49:11AM REDEVELOPMENT CONSULTING COMPANY FOR TEN YEARS SO WE
10:49:15AM CONSULTED FOR VARIOUS CRAs THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
10:49:17AM SO ALTHOUGH ORIGINALLY MY TIME WAS IN WEST PALM BEACH I DID
10:49:21AM SPEND A LOT OF TIME MAINLY ACROSS FLORIDA, A LITTLE BIT IN
10:49:25AM CENTRAL FLORIDA, BUT IN THE CONSULTING FIELD.
10:49:29AM I AM ORIGINALLY FROM THE MIDWEST, FROM KANSAS CITY AREA, IN
10:49:35AM KANSAS, AND CAME TO FLORIDA ABOUT 26 OR 7 YEARS AGO.
10:49:43AM I AGE MYSELF WITH THAT.
10:49:45AM SO I HAVE BEEN IN FLORIDA MOST OF MY ADULT LIFE.
10:49:49AM AS YOU WILL SEE, AND AS WE WILL DISCUSS, ONE OF THE UNIQUE
10:49:52AM PARTS ABOUT ME, THE OTHER CANDIDATES, I AM NOTE THAT
10:49:56AM FAMILIAR WITH THE TAMPA AREA.
10:49:57AM I AM OF A VERY QUICK STUDY.
10:49:59AM I WAS COMMITTED TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND REALLY LEARN
10:50:02AM ABOUT THIS CITY AND THE CRA.
10:50:04AM WHAT MY EXPERTISE REALLY IS REDEVELOPMENT, AND I KNOW THAT I
10:50:08AM CAN HELP YOU MOVE PROJECTS FORWARD AND GET ON THE RIGHT PATH
10:50:13AM WITH MOVING A PROJECT.
10:50:20AM WITH MS. TRAVIS AND MR. GRUM GO, AND RECENTLY HAVE DONE A
10:50:26AM LOT OF WORK AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM IN
10:50:29AM COMPLETING THESE GOALS.
10:50:30AM WITH THAT I WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS.
10:50:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:50:37AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, MS. JUSTICE.
10:50:41AM YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS YESTERDAY.
10:50:48AM BUT I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS IN THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE WE
10:50:54AM HAVE EIGHT CRAs, AND IN MY DISTRICT, EAST TAMPA, OUR
10:51:10AM EASTERN PORTION, AND WEST TAMPA IS COMING ALONG, BUT YOU
10:51:24AM HAVE EXTENSIVE BARK GROUND IN DEVELOPMENT.
10:51:26AM I'M HUNGRY, MS. TRAVIS, AND HOW WILL YOU CONTINUE THAT
10:51:32AM HUNGER FOR ME?
10:51:35AM THEY ARE HUNGRY FOR ACTION NOW.
10:51:36AM SO COMING IN AS DIRECTOR, WHAT WILL BE THE GOALS IN MOVING
10:51:40AM THE TRAIN?
10:51:42AM >>ALLISON JUSTICE: THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION,
10:51:45AM COUNCILMEMBER.
10:51:45AM I REALIZE THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY.
10:51:48AM I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE STARTED GETTING THE TRAIN MOVING AND I
10:51:51AM APPRECIATE THAT.
10:51:52AM MY INTENT WOULD CERTAINLY NOT BE TO STOP ANY MOMENTUM MOVING
10:51:57AM FORWARD.
10:51:58AM SO MY FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WOULD BE WORKING WITH THE TEAM
10:52:03AM TO ENSURE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD CONTINUE TO
10:52:05AM MOVE FORWARD.
10:52:06AM I AM A "GET IT DONE" KIND OF PERSON SO I DON'T LIKE A LOT OF
10:52:12AM RED TAPE.
10:52:13AM I UNDERSTAND WE WORK IN A GOVERNMENT ENVIRONMENT.
10:52:15AM SO GETTING THROUGH CITY PROCESS IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF
10:52:18AM STARTING WITHIN GOVERNMENT.
10:52:20AM I HAVE WORKED IN GOVERNMENT INTIMATELY AT CITY HALL FOR
10:52:24AM EIGHT YEARS SO I UNDERSTAND HOW TO GET THROUGH THE
10:52:27AM PROCESSES.
10:52:29AM SO IMMEDIATELY IT WOULD BE TO CONTINUE THE MOMENTUM MOVING
10:52:32AM FORWARD.
10:52:33AM AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S ESTABLISHING RELATIONSHIPS AND
10:52:35AM UNDERSTANDING REALLY MOVING CRA, WHERE THEIR ASSETS ARE, HOW
10:52:43AM WE CAN AGAIN IMPROVE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THOSE AREAS, AND
10:52:48AM MOVE PROJECTS FORWARD.
10:52:49AM SO CERTAINLY WOULD MOVE EVERYTHING FORWARD THAT'S MOVING
10:52:54AM FORWARD NOW CURRENTLY AND KEEP THEM ON THE BOOKS, AND THEN
10:52:57AM ALSO TAKE A REAL DEEP ANALYSIS OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITHIN ALL
10:53:00AM THE CRAs AND HOPEFULLY BRING NEW IDEAS AND NEW PROJECTS
10:53:04AM FORWARD AS WELL FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
10:53:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND QUESTION.
10:53:10AM WE TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE STATE THAT HAS
10:53:15AM CHALLENGES, A LONG TIME.
10:53:22AM THIS PARTICULAR CRA IS BASICALLY -- YOU HAVE -- MINORITY.
10:53:32AM WE HAVE OTHER RACES THAT PARTICIPATE BUT MAINLY WHAT I CALL
10:53:35AM BLACK FOLKS.
10:53:36AM AND I MUST MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CRA DIRECTOR THAT HAS THICK
10:53:39AM SKIN, AND CAN HANDLE -- DEAL WITH THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE
10:53:46AM ANGRY FOR, NOT ANGRY BUT THE PASSION OF WONDER WHY HAVEN'T
10:53:53AM WE ARRIVED OR WHY HAVEN'T WE GOTTEN TO WHERE EVERYONE ELSE
10:53:55AM HAS GOTTEN.
10:53:56AM SO HOW THICK IS YOUR SKIN?
10:54:00AM >>ALLISON JUSTICE: VERY THICK.
10:54:01AM I WILL ANSWER THAT DIRECTLY BUT VERY THICK.
10:54:03AM I WORKED FOR A CRA IN WEST PALM BEACH, HAS A $50 MILLION
10:54:09AM BUDGET.
10:54:09AM WE HAD ABOUT $20 MILLION GOING TOWARDS THE BLACK COMMUNITY
10:54:13AM THAT HASN'T SEEN REDEVELOPMENT IN FIFTY YEARS.
10:54:17AM THEY HAVEN'T SEEN REDEVELOPMENT EVER IN THEIR LIFETIME, IN
10:54:20AM THIS AREA.
10:54:21AM IT'S ADJACENT TO DOWNTOWN.
10:54:22AM WE WERE LUCKY THAT WE HAD FUNDING THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN CRA
10:54:26AM FOR THIS AREA, BUT IT'S ESTABLISHING THAT LEVEL OF TRUST.
10:54:29AM YOU DON'T WALK INTO A CRA, YOU DON'T WALK INTO A
10:54:32AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT HAVE THE CITIZENS TRUST THAT YOU ARE
10:54:36AM WORKING FOR THEM AND DOING WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
10:54:39AM SO IT'S GETTING TO KNOW THE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND, GETTING
10:54:42AM THEM TO TRUST YOU, GETTING THEM TO UNDERSTAND YOU ARE THERE
10:54:44AM TO ACTUALLY MAKE PROJECTS HAPPEN, MAKE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE
10:54:48AM BETTER.
10:54:48AM THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE TO DO.
10:54:50AM SO I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE.
10:54:53AM I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN WORKING WITH DIVERSE
10:54:55AM COMMUNITIES, AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
10:54:58AM YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION, GETTING TO KNOW
10:55:05AM PEOPLE, AND HAVING BOOTS ON THE GROUND IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
10:55:08AM THING THAT I CAN DO.
10:55:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:55:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:55:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN REGARDS TO COUNCILMAN MEMBER GUDES
10:55:21AM SAID IT, ALMOST ALL THE CRAs EXCEPT DREW PARK ARE IN HIS
10:55:25AM DISTRICT.
10:55:25AM I HAVE DREW PARK.
10:55:26AM SO HE HAS A VERY ACTIVE DISTRICT, AND ALSO A DEMANDING
10:55:30AM DISTRICT, AND FOR VERY GOOD REASON.
10:55:32AM WE TALK ABOUT CENTRAL PARK, FOR EXAMPLE.
10:55:38AM THE LAST BUSINESS THAT CLOSED IN, WHAT WAS IT, CENTRAL
10:55:40AM AVENUE BEFORE WAS 1974, 48 YEARS AGO, AND THERE HAVE BEEN
10:55:45AM SOME IMPROVEMENTS AS OF LATELY THROUGH THE AREA, BUT IT'S
10:55:49AM ALMOST HALF A CENTURY, INFORM THAT AREA TO START COMING
10:55:53AM BACK.
10:55:53AM EAST TAMPA BEING ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE STATE, THE WORD
10:55:59AM GENTRIFICATION WAS MENTIONED EARLIER.
10:56:00AM IT'S NOT ABOUT GENTRIFICATION.
10:56:02AM IT'S ABOUT EQUITY.
10:56:03AM WHAT I WANT TO SEE, MY GOAL IS THAT WE REALLY FOCUS ON EAST
10:56:08AM TAMPA, AND PEOPLE HAVE IN THE PAST, BUT I THINK TIME IS OF
10:56:13AM THE ESSENCE AS THE REST OF THE CITY IS FLOURISHING.
10:56:16AM EAST TAMPA DESERVES NOT GENTRIFICATION BUT EQUITY.
10:56:20AM EQUITY IN THE SENSE THAT I WANT TO SEE THAT CRA DISTRICT
10:56:24AM SUCCEED LIKE THE OTHERS.
10:56:25AM MAYBE IT WON'T BE LIKE A DOWNTOWN.
10:56:27AM YOU CAN'T COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES, BUT I WANT EAST TAMPA TO
10:56:31AM HAVE THE SAME THAT WEST TAMPA HAS.
10:56:33AM I WANT TO SEE A STRONG MIDDLE CLASS.
10:56:35AM I WANT PEOPLE LIVING, GROWING, INVESTING, AND CONTINUING
10:56:39AM THAT MULTI-GENERATIONAL -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD IS,
10:56:46AM INVESTMENT OR CONTINUATION OF THAT.
10:56:47AM I WANT PEOPLE TO BUILD UPON THAT WHERE THE AREA CONTINUES TO
10:56:52AM FLOURISH LONG AFTER WE ARE GONE.
10:56:55AM PARTS OF THE CITY HAVE BEEN IGNORED.
10:56:57AM THERE HAS BEEN TOO MUCH FOCUS AND EMPHASIS ON OTHER PARTS OF
10:57:00AM THE CITY, AND OTHERS ARE LEFT BEHIND, AND I THINK -- AND NOT
10:57:05AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT PEOPLE AREN'T GOING
10:57:08AM TO WAIT ANYMORE.
10:57:09AM WE HAVE SEEN THAT IN THE LENGTH OF OUR MEETINGS.
10:57:11AM WE HAVE SEEN IT IN THE HEAVY DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.
10:57:15AM THE INVOLVEMENT.
10:57:16AM CAY MEMBERS WHICH YOU WILL SEE THIS EVENING AT OUR MEET AND
10:57:20AM GREET, YOU WILL SEE THE PASSION THAT THEY HAVE, AND
10:57:22AM RIGHTFULLY SO.
10:57:23AM THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME TO SERVE
10:57:26AM THEIR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THEY WANT THE BEST, NOT JUST FOR
10:57:29AM THEMSELVES BUS FOR EVERYONE, BECAUSE ALSO THEY SEE HOW,
10:57:32AM AGAIN, THE REST OF THE CITY IS ADVANCING AND FLOURISHING AND
10:57:36AM ENJOYING THIS RENAISSANCE THAT WE.
10:57:38AM SEEN IN GENERATIONS PROBABLY, BUT THEY WANT A PIECE OF THAT
10:57:43AM ACTION, TOO, AND THEY DESERVE THAT.
10:57:45AM AND WHEN YOU HAVE A CRA THAT BIG, YOU KNOW, IT DESERVES THAT
10:57:49AM BIG OF AN INVESTMENT AND THOUGHT TO IT.
10:57:53AM WE TALKED ABOUT STRATEGIC ACTION PLANS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
10:57:56AM UPDATED SINCE I WAS IN COLLEGE.
10:57:59AM WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE WHICH WAS LESS THAN 20 YEARS AGO TAMPA
10:58:03AM WAS A DIFFERENT PLACE.
10:58:04AM EVEN TEN YEARS AGO TAMPA WAS A DIFFERENT PLACE.
10:58:06AM CRA MEETINGS WERE DIFFERENT FIVE YEARS AGO.
10:58:09AM WE WERE DONE AT 10:00.
10:58:10AM BUT THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO, AND TIMES HAVE CHANGED, AND TIMES
10:58:16AM HAVE CHANGED QUICKLY BECAUSE TAMPA IS GROWING RAPIDLY, BUT
10:58:21AM AT THE SAME TIME RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL BOATS, I WANT THAT
10:58:27AM RISING TIDE ECONOMIC RISING TIDE THAT AFFECTS EVERYBODY SO
10:58:30AM WE HAVE EQUITY ACROSS THE BOARD AND EVERYBODY WINS AND
10:58:33AM EVERYBODY IS PROUD NO MATTER WHERE THEY LIVE IN THE CITY
10:58:36AM BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING THE SAME BENEFITS AS EVERYBODY
10:58:38AM ELSE.
10:58:38AM THANK YOU.
10:58:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:58:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: YESTERDAY WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT -- I WILL
10:58:48AM REPEAT IT AGAIN FOR THE PUBLIC.
10:58:50AM PEOPLE WHO WATCH HEARINGS, I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH CRAs AS A
10:58:55AM TOOL, IT'S KIND OF FOR LAZY POLICYMAKERS BECAUSE IF YOU JUST
10:58:58AM KEPT THE MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND YOU CAN MOVE IT AROUND
10:59:01AM WHEREVER YOU WANT AND GET THE COUNTY MATCHING MONEY TO
10:59:04AM CREATE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BUT WE HAVE EIGHT OF THEM.
10:59:08AM ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IS THE WAY THEY ARE SET UP, YOU
10:59:10AM ARE LIMITED AS TO OHIO YOU CAN SPEND THE MONEY, BUT ALSO
10:59:13AM THERE'S KIND OF A PERVERSE INCENTIVE, AND THE MONEY COMES
10:59:16AM FROM PROPERTY TAT TAXES.
10:59:18AM SO IT'S FUNDED BY BIG REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
10:59:24AM IT INCENTIVIZES BIG REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
10:59:27AM AND WHEN MANY CITIES LOOK AT CRAs, THEY MEASURE BY THE
10:59:33AM AMOUNT OF TIF MONEY THAT COMES IN OR THEY DO A FORMULA WHERE
10:59:36AM THEY SUBSIDIZE THE PRIVATE SECTOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT,
10:59:39AM AND THEN THEY TRY TO DO A FORMULA WHERE THEY SAY IN TEN
10:59:42AM YEARS WE'LL MAKE MONEY.
10:59:44AM THE COUNTY, THEY DIDN'T USE A CRA, BUT SPENT 6.2 MILLION
10:59:50AM SUBSIDIZING AND THEIR JUSTIFICATION WAS IN TEN YEARS WE'LL
10:59:53AM MAKE THE MONEY BACK.
10:59:54AM THE LAST MAYOR HERE DID THE SAME THING, SPENT TENS OF
10:59:57AM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF CRA MONEY, SUBSIDIZING PRIVATE SECTOR
11:00:01AM COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
11:00:02AM I THINK IT'S ANTI-COMPETITIVE BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR TO
11:00:06AM SUBSIDIZE ONE VERSUS THE OTHER.
11:00:07AM ALSO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BROADER CITY PERSPECTIVE, WE NEED --
11:00:12AM THE BEST CITIES IN THE WORLD DON'T MEASURE HOW MUCH CONDOS
11:00:15AM THEY GET, THEY DON'T MEASURE HOW MUCH NEW HIGH-RISE
11:00:18AM BUILDINGS THAT COME IN, THEY DON'T MEASURE THE NEW OFFICE
11:00:21AM SPACES COMING IN, UNLESS IT'S SOME SPECIALIZED.
11:00:27AM WHAT THEY DO IS MEASURE THE ECONOMIC NUMBERS.
11:00:29AM AND OUR ECONOMIC NUMBERS DURING THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC BOON IN
11:00:34AM AMERICAN THINKS TRY MOSTLY SHRANK, BETWEEN RICH AND POOR,
11:00:39AM BLAND ACT WHITE AND WOMEN GOT WORSE COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES
11:00:41AM AND COMPARED TO THE BIGGEST SIX CITIES IN FLORIDA WE CAME IN
11:00:45AM FIFTH OUT OF SIX.
11:00:47AM THE REGIONAL NUMBERS, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE LOCAL NUMBERS,
11:00:50AM BUT THE REGIONAL NUMBERS FOR HOUSEHOLD INCOME CAME IN BELOW
11:00:55AM MOST CITIES.
11:00:56AM AND WE KNOW IN LOOKING AT THE PAST THAT TAMPA WAS DRAGGING
11:00:59AM DOWN ST. PETE THAT ST. PETE NUMBERS WERE BETTER.
11:01:02AM SO I ANYWAY HAVE BEEN DESPERATELY LOOKING FOR WAYS TO
11:01:08AM CORRECT THAT AND MOVE IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
11:01:10AM AND CRAS TAKING MONEY FROM ONE PART OF THE CITY TO OTHERS,
11:01:15AM AND WE HAVE TO BE GOOD CUSTODIANS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
11:01:19AM INTENDING THE RIGHT WAY AND WE CAN TALK WITH HONESTY ABOUT
11:01:24AM THE SUCCESSES WE ARE HAVING, NOT WHAT I CALL THE EDIFICE
11:01:27AM COMPLEX OF BUILDINGS TO TRY TO DISTRACT ATTENTION.
11:01:31AM INSTEAD THEY SAY OUR ECONOMIC NUMBERS ARE BETTER THAN ANYONE
11:01:34AM ELSE'S, COMPARED TO CITIES LIKE CHARLOTTE, AUSTIN AND
11:01:37AM ATLANTA, WE WENT SIDEWAYS AND THEY WENT UP.
11:01:40AM WE DIDN'T MOVE IN THE SAME DIRECTION AS THEY DID.
11:01:43AM SO SINCE CRAs IN MANY CITIES ARE VERY COMMERCIAL REAL
11:01:47AM ESTATE FOCUSED ABOUT INCENTIVES, WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU FOCUS
11:01:50AM ON?
11:01:51AM >>ALLISON JUSTICE: SURE.
11:01:52AM THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
11:01:53AM AND AS THE PREVIOUS COUNCILMEMBER POINTED OUT, IT'S ABOUT
11:01:57AM EQUITY, AND IT'S EQUITY IN YOUR OTHER CRAS AND YOUR OTHER
11:02:02AM COMMUNITIES.
11:02:02AM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CRAS SO I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY FOCUS ON
11:02:05AM THE CRA.
11:02:06AM BUT IT'S BUILDING THE EQUITY, BUILDING THE QUALITY OF LIFE
11:02:10AM IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:02:11AM AND YOU CAN DO THAT.
11:02:13AM I MEAN, IT'S NOT -- YOU ARE NOT STRUGGLING FOR, YOU KNOW,
11:02:22AM FOR CASH, AS FAR AS MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT'S A
11:02:25AM LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT.
11:02:26AM BUT AS FAR AS A TIF AND A CRA, THAT HAS A DECENT CRA.
11:02:33AM SO IT'S ABOUT BUILDING THAT MIDDLE CLASS UP, ABOUT GIVING
11:02:37AM BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY.
11:02:38AM SO WHETHER THAT'S CREATING SENSE OF PLACE.
11:02:42AM I TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY WITH A FEW OF YOU ABOUT FINDING THE
11:02:45AM ACCESS IN THESE COMMUNITIES.
11:02:47AM WHAT IS IT THAT THE CRA HAS TO OFFER?
11:02:50AM IS IT THE ARTS AND CULTURE?
11:02:52AM WHAT IS IT THAT WE FOCUS OUR REDEVELOPMENT ON IN THESE
11:02:55AM SPECIFIC AREAS AND YOU BUILD AROUND THAT?
11:02:57AM AND YOU HAVE TO -- REDEVELOPMENT DOESN'T OCCUR WIDESPREAD.
11:03:01AM IT'S VERY LOCALIZED.
11:03:05AM DOWNTOWN SUCCEEDED BECAUSE IT WAS CONCENTRATED IN THE
11:03:08AM DOWNTOWN.
11:03:08AM THE SAME AREA APPLIES FOR OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY.
11:03:12AM IF YOU CONCENTRATE YOUR REDEVELOPMENT, IT SPREADS, AND THE
11:03:18AM RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL SHIPS.
11:03:20AM ONCE YOU GET AN AREA AND START BUILDING IT, BUT THAT WOULD
11:03:23AM BE MY ANSWER FOR THESE OTHER AREAS.
11:03:25AM YOU HAVE TO FIND WHAT THOSE ASSETS ARE, FOCUS ON THEM, BUILD
11:03:28AM UP WITH THAT, AND THE SURROUNDING AREA WILL THRIVE.
11:03:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY FOR THE TOUGH QUESTIONS.
11:03:37AM ANOTHER TOUGH QUESTION, CITY OF TAMPA CURRENTLY IS UNDER A
11:03:43AM U.S. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATION, AND WE
11:03:48AM CREATED A PROGRAM, PROGRAMS CREATED BY THE LAST MAYOR.
11:03:52AM THERE WAS A -- THE LAST ADMINISTRATION ALSO HAD A CIVIL
11:03:55AM RIGHTS INVESTIGATION BY THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IN 2015,
11:03:58AM 2016.
11:04:01AM THESE ALSO RESULTED IN INVESTIGATIVE STORIES BY THE "TAMPA
11:04:05AM BAY TIMES," IN 2015 WAS CALLED BIKING WHILE BLACK, RECENT
11:04:09AM ONE CALLED RENTING WHILE BLACK, AND SO THE CURRENT JUSTICE
11:04:13AM DEPARTMENT STARTED IN DECEMBER AND STILL HANGING OVER US BUT
11:04:20AM IN 2018 I ASKED ONE OF THE TWO REPORTERS, SHE HAPPENED TO BE
11:04:24AM AFRICAN AMERICAN, I SAID, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT EAST TAMPA
11:04:27AM AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY VERSUS ST. PETE OR OTHER CITIES?
11:04:30AM AND ST. PETE IN '96 THEY HAD ISSUES THAT RESULTED IN THE
11:04:34AM CREATION OF A DIALOGUE, AND SHE TALKED ABOUT HOW AFRICAN
11:04:37AM AMERICAN FEELS THEY HAVEN'T GOT A SEAT AT THE TABLE, IT'S
11:04:41AM NOT PERFECT, IT'S NOT GREAT BUT AT LEAST CONVERSATION IS
11:04:43AM HAPPENING.
11:04:44AM I SAID WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT TAMPA?
11:04:46AM SHE SAID IN TAMPA, THEY FEEL OPPRESSED, THEY FEEL THEY DON'T
11:04:51AM HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE, THEY FEEL THERE ARE PROGRAMS
11:04:53AM HOLDING THEM BACK, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY AREN'T BEING LISTENED
11:04:56AM TO.
11:04:57AM YOU ARE STEPPING IN TO THAT ENVIRONMENT, AND ALSO IF YOU
11:05:00AM LOOK AT ECONOMICALLY, AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY NUMBERS,
11:05:05AM ECONOMIC NUMBERS WENT EITHER SIDEWAYS OR DOWN.
11:05:08AM HUGE DISPARITY IN INCOME, HUGE DISPARITIES IN HOME
11:05:10AM OWNERSHIP, LACK OF ABILITY TO START NEW BUSINESSES, TO STEP
11:05:15AM INTO THAT ENVIRONMENT.
11:05:17AM HOW ARE YOU -- TELL US HOW YOU ARE THE BEST PERSON TO
11:05:21AM NAVIGATE THAT.
11:05:22AM >>ALLISON JUSTICE: SURE.
11:05:23AM AND THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS THERE MUST BE INVESTMENT IN THESE
11:05:26AM COMMUNITIES, BUT IT'S NOT THAT EASY.
11:05:27AM IT'S NOT THAT EASY IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
11:05:30AM AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IT'S A TRUST ISSUE.
11:05:34AM NOBODY WANTS TO SEE A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL WALK IN AND TELL
11:05:36AM THEM THEY ARE GOING TO SAVE THE DAY AND THEY ARE GOING TO
11:05:39AM MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER.
11:05:41AM WHATEVER NEIGHBORHOOD YOU ARE IN.
11:05:42AM AND ESPECIALLY IN LOWER SOCIOECONOMIC NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU
11:05:47AM KNOW.
11:05:47AM BUT YOU WANT IT BETTER.
11:05:48AM SO THEY HAVE TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS.
11:05:50AM I WENT THERE YOU THIS IN WEST PALM BEACH.
11:05:53AM THE COMMUNITY HELPED DESIGN THEIR OWN PARK, THEY HELPED
11:05:57AM REALLY COME UP WITH THE PROGRAMS THAT WE WERE GOING TO PUT
11:06:01AM INTO PLACE IN THIS COMMUNITY, BECAUSE IT WAS NOTHING
11:06:05AM GOVERNMENT COMING IN AND DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
11:06:07AM IT WAS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
11:06:08AM AND IN THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU ARE DOING IT WITH THEM, YOU
11:06:12AM ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANYWHERE.
11:06:13AM I THINK THAT'S BEEN A MISTAKE THAT GOVERNMENT HAS MADE FOR A
11:06:16AM LONG TIME.
11:06:17AM THEY WILL ALL SAVE THE DAY OVER HERE.
11:06:19AM I AM NOT GOING TO SAVE THE DAY.
11:06:21AM IT WILL BE A PROCESS WITH THEM, NOT ME COME IN AND SAYING
11:06:25AM THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO.
11:06:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: MY LAST QUESTION REAL FAST.
11:06:30AM I THINK IN YOUR POSITION IN WEST PALM YOU REPORTED TO THE
11:06:33AM MAYOR.
11:06:34AM SOME CITIES THE POSITIONS REPORT TO THE MAYOR. IN THIS CASE
11:06:37AM YOU REPORT TO NOT CITY COUNCIL BUT CRA BOARD WHICH HAPPENS
11:06:40AM TO ALSO BE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THERE ARE SEVEN OF US,
11:06:43AM TOTALLY DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND EXPERIENCES.
11:06:46AM HOW WILL YOU MAKE THAT TRANSITION AND HOW WILL YOU MAKE IT
11:06:49AM SUCCESSFUL?
11:06:50AM >>ALLISON JUSTICE: I PREFER REPORTING TO A BOARD, AND IN
11:06:54AM WEST PALM BEACH YOU DO TECHNICALLY REPORT TO THE BOARD BUT
11:06:57AM THE MAYOR HAD A LOT OF INFLUENCE OVER PROJECTS AND OVER
11:07:01AM THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING.
11:07:02AM I WOULD PREFER, YOU KNOW, YOU VOTE AS A BOARD WHEN YOU VOTE
11:07:06AM ON YOUR BUDGET MEANING YOU ARE VOTING ON THE PROJECTS THAT
11:07:08AM YOU ARE GOING TO UNDERTAKE.
11:07:10AM THAT'S THE WAY, I BELIEVE, THAT IT'S BEST SERVED THE CRA,
11:07:14AM AND IF THE BOARD COLLECTIVELY MAKES A DECISION, YOU HIRE
11:07:18AM EXPERTS LIKE YOUR TEAM TO COME IN AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS
11:07:21AM BASED ON OUR PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, AND YOU AS A BOARD
11:07:26AM COLLECTIVELY DECIDE WHICH PROJECTS ARE MOVING FORWARD AND
11:07:28AM WHERE YOU ARE PUTTING FUNDING.
11:07:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:07:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ARE YOU DOING, ALL RIGHT?
11:07:41AM GOOD, GOOD.
11:07:42AM AND MINE IS NOT SO MUCH OF A QUESTION.
11:07:44AM I GUESS MY VIEW OF CRAs, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID
11:07:48AM SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS VERY TRUE, BUT I ACTUALLY AGREE
11:07:51AM WITH THE IDEA THAT WAS PUT FORWARD MAYBE ON THE OTHER SIDE,
11:07:55AM WHICH IS THAT CRAs DO FORCE GOVERNMENTS TO SPEND MONEY IN
11:08:00AM A CERTAIN PLACE.
11:08:01AM I ACTUALLY SUPPORT THAT COMPEL TOOL BECAUSE I DON'T THINK
11:08:06AM GOVERNMENTS TYPICALLY DO THAT.
11:08:07AM IF YOU LEAVE LEAD MOST GOVERNMENTS THEY ARE GOING TO SPEND
11:08:11AM MONEY WHERE THE MONEY IS, WHERE THE VOTES ARE.
11:08:14AM SO ACTUALLY SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT MAKES GOVERNMENT SPEND
11:08:18AM MONEY IN A CERTAIN PLACE.
11:08:20AM I REPRESENT A DISTRICT WHERE WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE NO CRAs,
11:08:24AM RIGHT?
11:08:25AM I THINK THERE'S A GOOD ARGUMENT THAT MAYBE SOME PARTS OF
11:08:27AM DISTRICT 7 SIT, SULPHUR SPRINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, USF, FOR
11:08:31AM EXAMPLE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME AREAS IN NEW TAMPA, HUNTER'S
11:08:38AM GREEN, TAMPA PALMS.
11:08:40AM AND IF SOMEONE WOULD ASK ME, CRAs, WHICH SHOULD BE FOR
11:08:47AM BLIGHTED COMMUNITIES, CAUSE SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES SUCH
11:08:48AM AS IT OUT IS, BAYSHORE, TAMPA PALMS, HUNTER'S GREEN, TO
11:08:52AM SUBSIDIZE AREAS THAT MAYBE ARE MORE MARGINALIZED, TO AN
11:08:56AM EXTENT, I WOULD GO YES, THAT IS TRUE, AND I SUPPORT THAT,
11:09:00AM BECAUSE I'M AN FDR GUY, RIGHT?
11:09:03AM THAT'S HOW I THINK.
11:09:05AM BUT I THINK FOR ALL OF US, WE TAKE OUR PHILOSOPHY, OUR
11:09:10AM THEOLOGY ON CRAs AND WE VOTE ACCORDING TO THAT.
11:09:13AM FOR THE MOST PART THAT'S KIND OF HOW I SEE CRAs, WHICH IS
11:09:17AM AS A TOOL TO HELP MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES, AS A TOOL TO
11:09:21AM HELP BLIGHTED COMMUNITIES.
11:09:22AM BUT ALSO LIKE I SAID, AS A COMPEL TOOL WHERE GOVERNMENT HAS
11:09:25AM TO DO THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF LEFT ON THEIR OWN A LOT
11:09:29AM OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WILL NOT DO THAT, RIGHT?
11:09:32AM AND WHAT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID IS TRUE, WHICH IS A
11:09:36AM COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, OUR CRA MEETINGS WERE VERY SHORT.
11:09:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAD BEEN ON THAT BOARD FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS
11:09:41AM OR SO AND WE HAD PEOPLE WHO PUSHED A LOT OF BIG IDEAS ON
11:09:46AM CRAs.
11:09:47AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I KNOW DID, COUNCILMAN CARLSON A LOT,
11:09:51AM AND THEY CHANGED THE DISCUSSION AND I GIVE FOLKS CREDIT FOR
11:09:55AM THAT IN TERMS OF CRA AND MY HAT IS OFF TO PEOPLE LIKE THAT
11:09:57AM BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE HAVING MORE ROBUST DISCUSSIONS WHICH
11:10:00AM PUSHED THE IMAGINATION OF WHAT CRAS SHOULD DO.
11:10:03AM BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY THAT I SEE CRAs, WHICH IS TO
11:10:06AM HELP BLIGHTED COMMUNITIES AND TO COMPEL GOVERNMENTS TO
11:10:09AM SUBSIDIZE AND SUPPORT EXTRA, COMMUNITIES THAT GIVEN THE
11:10:13AM POLITICAL INCENTIVES THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T SUPPORT.
11:10:16AM SO THAT'S KIND OF MY THING FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH.
11:10:19AM THANK YOU.
11:10:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
11:10:23AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. JUSTICE, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE FOCUS
11:10:31AM ON A DIRECTOR BUT ALSO FOCUSING ON A SPECIFIC CRA, ONE THAT
11:10:36AM HAS A LOT OF MONEY TO BE SPENT, A LOT OF MONEY.
11:10:45AM EAST TAMPA CRA HAS A LOT OF MONEY.
11:10:51AM WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY.
11:10:55AM YOU CAN'T TELL ME SOMETHING I KNOW.
11:10:57AM I LIVED THERE, WORKED THERE, PLAYED THERE.
11:11:01AM IT'S NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE LIKING YOU
11:11:08AM AS A PERSON.
11:11:09AM AS MR. MANISCALCO SAID, EQUITY.
11:11:16AM EQUITY.
11:11:20AM QUALITY IS ONE THING BUT EQUITY IS ANOTHER.
11:11:24AM BUT ON SPENDING MONEY ON THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE NEED AND
11:11:30AM WANT.
11:11:32AM I NEED A DIRECTOR WITH A VISION.
11:11:41AM YOU CAN TALK ALL DAY TILL YOU ARE BLUE IN THE FACE OF THE
11:11:44AM COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE HAD THOSE.
11:11:46AM BUT IF YOU AIN'T SPENDING NO MONEY YOU DO ME NO GOOD.
11:11:51AM I NEED A DIRECTOR THAT WILL COME IN WITH IDEAS TO BE ABLE TO
11:11:54AM GIVE OUR COMMUNITY RESIDENTS.
11:11:58AM THE EAST TAMPA GROUP HAS REIMAGINED, REFOCUSED BECAUSE NOW
11:12:01AM THEY DON'T HAVE MS. JONES OR MISS SALLY WHO HAVE BEEN GOOD
11:12:09AM STEWARDS OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW
11:12:11AM INFRASTRUCTURE, THEY DON'T KNOW REDEVELOPMENT.
11:12:14AM WE HAVE FOLKS OVER THERE NOW WHO ARE EXPERIENCED, HAVE
11:12:18AM EXPERTISE, SO YOU CAN'T JUST TELL THEM LIKE IN THE OLDER
11:12:21AM DAYS, OTHER MANAGERS, AND THEY WOULD TELL THEM, AND THEY
11:12:25AM WOULD BELIEVE THAT.
11:12:26AM YOU HAVE PEOPLE NOW WHO WILL VET, WHICH HAVE ALREADY VETTED
11:12:30AM YOUR BACKGROUND, WHO WILL ALSO VET -- WHO HAVE ANSWERS TO A
11:12:37AM QUESTION THAT YOU MAY HAVE, THEY ALREADY KNOW BECAUSE THEY
11:12:40AM DO IT EVERY DAY THEMSELVES.
11:12:42AM YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON THAT BOARD NOW, TWO ATTORNEYS ON THAT
11:12:46AM BOARD NOW, YOU HAVE GOT REDEVELOPMENT ON THAT BOARD NOW, SO
11:12:50AM IT'S NOT LIKE YOU SAY, WELL, I'M COMING IN, AND YOU HAVE GOT
11:12:56AM PEOPLE THAT REALLY KNOW.
11:12:58AM SO MY THING AGAIN, WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY.
11:13:04AM HOW DO YOU SPEND THAT MONEY?
11:13:06AM HOW DO YOU SPEND IT?
11:13:08AM >>ALLISON JUSTICE: RESPECTFULLY, COUNCILMEMBER, I CAN WALK
11:13:12AM AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME SO I CAN DO BOTH.
11:13:15AM AND I CERTAINLY CAN SPEND MONEY.
11:13:17AM I HAD A $50 MILLION IN PALM BEACH.
11:13:19AM I SPENT EVERY YEAR ON GOOD PROJECTS, AND OWN PROJECTS FOR
11:13:23AM THE COMMUNITY.
11:13:24AM BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE IS GOING TO BE -- I DON'T KNOW THE
11:13:30AM PROJECTS NOW.
11:13:30AM I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW I AM GOING TO COME IN AND SPEND THE
11:13:33AM MONEY.
11:13:34AM I WE LOVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
11:13:35AM THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A PLACE THAT I HAVE.
11:13:37AM I HAVE SOME STUDYING, BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND RESEARCH TO DO
11:13:41AM BEFORE I KNOW WHAT PROJECT MAKES SENSE FOR THAT COMMUNITY,
11:13:46AM AND THAT'S WHY I KIND OF GO BACK, IT STARTS WITH TALKING TO
11:13:51AM PEOPLE, AND I UPPER WE NEED PROJECTS MOVING.
11:13:56AM LIKE YOU SAID, YOU SAW MY BACKGROUND.
11:13:58AM I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, LOTS
11:14:01AM OF EXPERIENCE IN INCENTIVES.
11:14:02AM INCENTIVES FOR BOTH DEVELOPERS AND FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES
11:14:06AM AND FOR SMALL BUSINESSES.
11:14:09AM SO I HAVE WORKED THE GAMUT FROM THE SMALLEST TO THE LARGEST.
11:14:15AM AND AS YOU MENTIONED, I KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
11:14:18AM I CAN'T TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN THAT
11:14:20AM NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT I WILL
11:14:25AM IDENTIFY IT.
11:14:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
11:14:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:14:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO ELABORATE WHAT BOARD MEMBER GUDES
11:14:34AM SAID, HE'S TALKING ABOUT -- HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT NEW
11:14:37AM MONEY.
11:14:37AM WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT MONEY IN A CRA THAT'S ALREADY SET
11:14:41AM UP, MONEY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN COLLECTED, AND THE MONEY HAS
11:14:45AM BEEN DESIGNATED BECAUSE OF CERTAIN PROJECTS, TO HELP THE
11:14:49AM COMMUNITY.
11:14:50AM SOME OF THE MONEY IS STILL SITTING IN THE BANK ACCOUNT AND
11:14:52AM STAFF DIDN'T MOVE THE PROJECTS FORWARD.
11:14:54AM SO IT'S NOT ABOUT SPENDING NEW MONEY OR FORGIVE USUALLY
11:14:59AM SPENDING MONEY.
11:14:59AM IT'S ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THE PROJECTS ALREADY APPROVED.
11:15:01AM THANK YOU.
11:15:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I THINK WE ARE ALL KIND OF DANCING AROUND
11:15:14AM WHAT EAST TAMPA HAS STRUGGLED WITH IN PUSHING THINGS
11:15:22AM THROUGH.
11:15:22AM WITH THAT BE COMMUNITY DISAGREEMENTS AMONGST EACH OTHER ON
11:15:26AM PROJECTS, OR WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CARLSON SAID ABOUT STAFF NOT
11:15:31AM GETTING THINGS DONE.
11:15:32AM SO HOW DO YOU COME IN AND BRIDGE THAT GAP, AND PUSH THESE
11:15:38AM PROJECTS THAT THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY NEEDS AND MAKE SURE
11:15:42AM THAT -- YEAH, HOW DO YOU PUSH ALL THAT THROUGH?
11:15:46AM >>ALLISON JUSTICE: MY EXPERIENCE WITH GETTING PROJECTS
11:15:49AM DONE, IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH, ON SOME LEVELS, OF BUILDING
11:15:55AM RELATIONSHIPS.
11:15:56AM I MEAN, AGAIN, KIND OF GOING BACK, IF YOU CAN'T BE TRUSTED
11:16:00AM INTERNALLY, IT'S WITH YOUR STAFF, IT'S WITH YOUR STAFF THAT
11:16:04AM MAY BE COMPLETING SOME OF THESE PROJECTS FROM OTHER
11:16:07AM DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY.
11:16:08AM SO WHAT I DO IS, I FIRST OF ALL GET TO NOTICE IMMEDIATELY
11:16:14AM EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE
11:16:16AM THE KEY.
11:16:17AM IT'S NOT ONE PERSON PUSHING AN ITEM THROUGH.
11:16:19AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TEAM.
11:16:21AM YOU HAVE THE RIGHT CONSULTANT.
11:16:23AM MAKING SURE I AM WORKING WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S TO
11:16:25AM EXPEDITE AND QUICKLY GET IF WE NEED A CONSULTANT FOR A
11:16:29AM PROJECT GET THEM ONBOARD.
11:16:31AM THAT'S ONE OF THE PROCESSES THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT AS -- A
11:16:37AM PROCUREMENT PROCESS, THERE'S RULES, BUT THERE'S ALSO A CRA,
11:16:42AM YOU NEED TO DO THESE THINGS QUICKLY.
11:16:45AM SO I HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH MOVING THESE PROJECTS FORWARD.
11:16:49AM I HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH WORKING WITH ENGINEERS, PLANNERS,
11:16:53AM BUILDING DEPARTMENTS, LEGAL TEAMS, PROCUREMENT TEAMS, YOU
11:16:57AM KNOW, EVERYBODY DOWN THE FLEET AND FACILITY OPERATIONS IN
11:17:03AM ORDER TO SEE THINGS MOVE FORWARD.
11:17:05AM AND I AM CERTAINLY NOT AFRAID TO GET INVOLVED WITH ALL OF
11:17:09AM THOSE DEPARTMENTS, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECTS THAT THIS
11:17:12AM BOARD ARE MOVING FORWARD.
11:17:14AM AND I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THE CLARIFICATION ON
11:17:19AM THESE DOLLARS BEING SPENT.
11:17:20AM IT'S IMPORTANT TO MOVE THESE PROJECTS FORWARD.
11:17:24AM THAT'S HAVE.
11:17:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S VERY CRITICAL.
11:17:28AM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:17:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE, MS.
11:17:33AM JUSTICE YOU SAID SOME WORDS VERY WELL INTENDED.
11:17:37AM YOU SAID THE WORD TRUST.
11:17:38AM WITHOUT TRUST, NO ONE SUCCEEDS.
11:17:40AM HERE THERE'S A BIG OPPORTUNITY FOR WHOEVER BECOMES THIS ROLE
11:17:44AM AND GETS ELECTED TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY HAS AT LEAST ONE
11:17:48AM THING THAT A LOT OF PLACES YOU DON'T HAVE.
11:17:53AM SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE, THERE'S NO MONEY.
11:17:55AM AT LEAST HERE YOU HAVE.
11:17:59AM SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE YOU HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO
11:18:01AM SOME DEGREE.
11:18:02AM SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS HOW YOU SPEND THE MONEY, AND THE WORD
11:18:05AM TRUST IS NOT ONLY DOUGH YOU HAVE TO BE WITH THEM BUT THEY
11:18:11AM HAVE TO BE WITH YOU.
11:18:12AM IT'S A TWO-WAY STREET.
11:18:13AM THESE ARE THINGS IN MANAGEMENT YOU HAVE TO ATTAIN AND I KNOW
11:18:17AM THAT YOU AND THE OTHERS CERTAINLY HAVE THAT RECOGNITION.
11:18:19AM HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT WITHOUT KNOWING IT, AND THERE'S
11:18:22AM A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, LIKE IN TEN YEARS, SEEMS LIKE A LONG
11:18:25AM TIME.
11:18:27AM YOU HAVE TO CROSS YOUR IS TWICE.
11:18:31AM SO EAST TAMPA IN PARTICULAR, YOU NEED SOMEONE WITH A LOT OF
11:18:35AM LEADERSHIP, BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDING THE TRUST OF THE PEOPLE
11:18:38AM AND THE PEOPLE HAVE TO TRUST YOU, OR WHOEVER GETS THE JOB.
11:18:41AM >>ALLISON JUSTICE: I'M SORRY, THE QUESTION AGAIN?
11:18:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I REALLY WAS SAYING WHAT YOU WERE
11:18:51AM TALKING ABOUT.
11:18:52AM I WASN'T POSING A QUESTION.
11:18:53AM BUT YOU MENTIONED THOSE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WERE WELL
11:18:55AM SAID.
11:18:55AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE TRUST.
11:18:56AM IT'S JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, LIKE A MARRIAGE, REALLY.
11:18:59AM >>ALLISON JUSTICE: AND TO KIND OF ANSWER A BIT OF THE
11:19:04AM QUESTION WAS, I AM NOT CLAIMING AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU
11:19:08AM KNOW I AM NOT FROM TAMPA, SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING, I CAN'T
11:19:13AM FAKE THAT.
11:19:14AM THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I AM SAYING.
11:19:18AM I HAVE LEADERSHIP SKILLS.
11:19:19AM I CAN GUILD BUILD THE RIGHT TEAM.
11:19:21AM THE TEAM I BUILD ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT, YOU
11:19:23AM KNOW.
11:19:24AM YOU CAN TEACH SOMEBODY SKILLS AND PASSION FOR REDEVELOPMENT
11:19:27AM AND CRAs IS SOMETHING, AND USUALLY YOU HAVE SOME
11:19:34AM EXPERIENCE IN IT BECAUSE SOMEBODY TAUGHT YOU THAT THIS IS
11:19:39AM THE WAY YOU THINK, VERY, VERY SPECIFIC WAY AND YOU GET
11:19:44AM THINGS DONE NOW.
11:19:46AM THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND MAYBE SOMEBODY THAT'S JUST
11:19:49AM PASSIONATE ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT IS THAT I ALSO AM A
11:19:52AM SUCCESSFUL PROJECT MANAGER, AND THAT'S WHAT I BILL MYSELF
11:19:56AM AS, AS A PROJECT MANAGER, GETTING THINGS DONE.
11:19:58AM I LIKE BEING A LEADER AND A MENTOR TOWARDS OTHERS BUT I
11:20:02AM DON'T MIND TAKING PROJECTS ON MYSELF.
11:20:04AM IF NEED BE.
11:20:06AM THAT IS -- YOU WANT A LEADER THAT HAS A TEAM THAT CAN DO IT,
11:20:10AM BUT I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH BEING THAT PERSON THAT'S LEADING A
11:20:13AM PROJECT MYSELF.
11:20:14AM IF IT'S SOMETHING CRITICAL THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE.
11:20:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
11:20:19AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: TWO THINGS THAT INTRIGUE ME THAT YOU
11:20:22AM TALKED ABOUT TODAY.
11:20:23AM YOU TALKED ABOUT TEAM.
11:20:24AM YOU TALKED ABOUT PROJECT MANAGEMENT.
11:20:29AM I AM A FIRM BELIEVER, GOING BACK TO MRS. TRAVIS, AS A TEAM,
11:20:39AM AND HAVING EXPERIENCE, BUT I GUESS MORE ME IF I WERE A
11:20:43AM DIRECTOR, AND I HAVE A NON-DRIVING COMPONENT, I WANT ALL THE
11:20:51AM RESOURCES TO GO TO THAT TEAM, ALL THE TEAM GO TO THAT
11:20:54AM PARTICULAR AREA THAT THRIVES, EVEN IF I HAVE TO OUTSOURCE
11:20:59AM SOMEONE TO MAKE THOSE PROJECTS RUN.
11:21:01AM I THINK -- YOU NEED TO GO OUTSIDE TO MAKE THINGS RUN AND
11:21:09AM MOVE AND THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE.
11:21:11AM WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON IT?
11:21:12AM YOU TALK ABOUT TEAM AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT.
11:21:14AM >>ALLISON JUSTICE: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:21:15AM AND I AM A FIRM BELIEVER IN THE USE OF CONSULTANTS.
11:21:20AM NOT EVERYBODY THAT HAS THE SKILL SETS ARE GOING TO BE ON
11:21:22AM STAFF.
11:21:23AM YOU NEED A FEW KEY PEOPLE THAT REALLY KNOW HOW TO MOVE
11:21:26AM PROJECTS FORWARD AND BE THE LEADERS OF PROJECTS.
11:21:30AM BUT YOUR SUPPORT STAFF CERTAINLY CAN BE CONSULTANTS.
11:21:35AM BEING IN THE BUSINESS FOR OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS, I AM
11:21:38AM FAMILIAR WITH MANY, MANY CONSULTANTS FROM DESIGNERS TO
11:21:41AM ENGINEERING FIRMS TO SAFETY ANALYSIS, YOU KNOW.
11:21:45AM WE HAVE WORKED WITH CONSULTANTS THAT ARE REALLY EXPERTS IN
11:21:48AM THEIR FIELD.
11:21:49AM SO I WOULD BRING THAT KNOWLEDGE TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN
11:21:55AM CONSULTANTS, AS WELL.
11:21:57AM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
11:21:58AM YOU HAVE TO -- IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE BY ONE OR TWO
11:22:01AM PEOPLE.
11:22:02AM AND I AM VERY COMFORTABLE WORKING WITH AND LEADING VENDORS
11:22:06AM AND CONSULTANTS.
11:22:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:22:13AM I THINK THAT'S THE KENNEDY OF OUR QUESTIONS.
11:22:15AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:22:16AM >>ALLISON JUSTICE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:22:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: TWO-MINUTE RECESS.
11:22:22AM (RECESS)
11:22:23AM
11:30:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ROLL CALL.
11:30:34AM >> HERE.
11:30:34AM >> HERE.
11:30:34AM >> HERE.
11:30:40AM >> HERE.
11:30:42AM >> HERE.
11:30:45AM >> HERE.
11:30:46AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
11:30:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:30:49AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCIL, OR CRA BOARD.
11:30:53AM WE HAVE OUR LAST CANDIDATE BEFORE YOU, AND I WANT TO
11:30:56AM INTRODUCE YOU TO JESUS NIÑO WHO IS NO STRANGER TO YOU, AND
11:31:02AM AFTER A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TELL YOU ABOUT HIS BACKGROUND,
11:31:07AM AND THEN WHEN YOU ARE FINISHED.
11:31:15AM THANK YOU.
11:31:16AM >>JESUS NINO: GOOD MORNING, BOARD MEMBERS.
11:31:22AM THIS IS MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY OUT THERE THAT'S WATCHING
11:31:26AM THIS.
11:31:27AM JESUS NIÑO.
11:31:30AM I CURRENTLY WORK FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND I AM APPLYING FOR
11:31:32AM THE CRA DIRECTOR POSITION.
11:31:34AM TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND, MY DEGREE IS
11:31:40AM IN URBAN AND REGIONAL PLANNING, CONCENTRATION IN ECONOMIC
11:31:45AM DEVELOPMENT AND URBAN POLICY.
11:31:48AM EVERY SINCE I GOT OUT OF GRADUATE SCHOOL MY FIRST POSITION
11:31:51AM WAS AS A SENIOR PLANNER.
11:31:54AM FOR THE CITY OF LARGO.
11:31:58AM THEY HAD AGGRESSIVE ANNEXATIONS, BY THE WAY, ON THE STREET,
11:32:01AM ANNEXING COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY,
11:32:04AM NEGOTIATING AGREEMENTS.
11:32:06AM AFTER THAT, I SWITCHED OVER AND BECAME THE FIRST MEMBER OF
11:32:09AM THE LARGO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
11:32:13AM ONE-MAN SHOW FOR A WHILE.
11:32:15AM BUT CITY OF LARGO NEEDED HELP IN THEIR PLANNING DIVISION.
11:32:20AM SHORT STAFF, I STEPPED UP, STARTED HELPING THEM, DEVELOPMENT
11:32:26AM REVIEW, LONG-RANGE PLANNING BUT UNDER THE CONDITION I WOULD
11:32:30AM TAKE ON THE MOST COMPLICATED PROJECT, NOT LITTLE PROJECTS,
11:32:35AM THAT NEED THE HELP, AND TAKE ON THE BIGGEST, MOST COMPLEX
11:32:39AM SPECIAL AREA PLAN, COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW PLANS, DEVELOPMENT.
11:32:46AM IT WAS SUCH A GREAT JOB THE CITY ASKED ME TO TAKE OVER THE
11:32:49AM PLANNING DIVISION SO I BECAME THEIR PRINCIPAL PLANNER.
11:32:52AM THEY HAD NO PLANNING MANAGER, JUST A DIRECTOR.
11:32:55AM SO ALSO WAS THEIR PART TIME ADMINISTRATOR INFORM A YEAR.
11:33:03AM AFTER THAT MOVED TO BRADENTON, BECAME THE CENTRAL COMMUNITY
11:33:05AM REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MANAGER, THERE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT,
11:33:12AM SOMEWHAT OF A UNICORN AT THE TIME, THE AGENCY BOARD WAS NOT
11:33:15AM CITY COUNCIL.
11:33:16AM IT WAS ACTUALLY COMPOSED OF OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
11:33:22AM A SEPARATE, JUST LIKE HERE, CRA IS A SEPARATE ENTITY FROM
11:33:25AM THE CITY WHICH CONFUSED A LOT OF INDIVIDUAL IN THE CITY
11:33:27AM INCLUDING THE STAFF.
11:33:32AM SEPARATE COMPLETE ENTITY.
11:33:34AM CITY COUNCIL, WHEN YOU ARE DOING YOUR CITY STUFF, AND WHEN
11:33:36AM YOU COME TO CRA, YOU ARE WEARING THAT HAT FOR THE AGENCY.
11:33:40AM SO I DID THAT FOR A FEW YEARS.
11:33:43AM BUT THEN CITY COUNCIL, CITY OF BRADENTON DECLARED THEMSELVES
11:33:46AM AS THE AGENCY.
11:33:48AM SO INSTEAD OF ME LEAVING, THE CITY ADMINISTRATION SAID,
11:33:53AM JESUS, COME OVER TO CITY HALL AND BECOME THE ECONOMIC
11:33:56AM DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE ENTIRE CITY BUT ALSO DO CRAs,
11:34:01AM THEN A POSITION OPENED UP IN TAMPA AND I CAME OVER.
11:34:04AM I HAVE BEEN HAPPY EVER SINCE.
11:34:06AM SO I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN URBAN AND REGIONAL
11:34:09AM PLANNING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, URBAN POLICY,
11:34:12AM ADMINISTRATION, AT THE MANAGEMENT DEVELOP AND REDEVELOPMENT.
11:34:16AM ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I CHOSE REDEVELOPMENT IS BECAUSE WHEN
11:34:19AM I WAS IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND DOING PLANNING, WE WERE
11:34:24AM USUALLY DOING -- I WAS DOING CORPORATE WELFARE.
11:34:29AM WE WERE DOING THE QUALIFIED TARGETED INDUSTRIES.
11:34:32AM WE WERE GOING OUT THERE, SITTING DOWN WITH THE BIG
11:34:34AM CORPORATIONS, ABOUT 500 CORPORATIONS AND SO FORTH TRYING TO
11:34:39AM GIVE THEM INCENTIVE TO COME IN.
11:34:41AM BUT THEN I STARRED HELPING OUT WITH REDEVELOPMENT ONE DAY.
11:34:44AM WE WERE MORE GRASSROOTS.
11:34:46AM WE WERE DOWN THERE ON THE STREET LEVEL, HELPING OUT THE
11:34:48AM NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS, HELPING THEM -- HELPING THOSE
11:34:52AM UNDERCAPITALIZED COMMUNITY GET ACCESS TO THAT PIECE OF THE
11:34:56AM PIE.
11:34:59AM AND I'M HERE NOW.
11:35:01AM I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.
11:35:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:35:04AM BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
11:35:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:35:09AM SAW YOU AT THE CONFERENCE WITH FOLKS THERE WITH THE WEST
11:35:11AM TAMPA CRA, AND GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN THIS MORNING.
11:35:18AM I DOESN'T HAVE ANY OBVIOUS QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
11:35:21AM I HAVE TOUGH QUESTIONS BECAUSE YOU ARE ALREADY HERE IN
11:35:22AM TAMPA.
11:35:23AM AND THREE QUESTIONS.
11:35:25AM FIRST ONE, TELL ME WHAT OUR PROBLEM IS WITH OUR CRAs FROM
11:35:29AM TOP DOWN.
11:35:33AM SECONDLY, HOW WOULD YOU CORRECT THEM AND FIX THEM NOW?
11:35:36AM WE KNOW MS. TRAVIS HAS BEEN HERE A WHILE, AND HAS BEEN
11:35:42AM TOWING THIS TRAIN AROUND ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
11:35:44AM HOW DO YOU CONTINUE TO LEAD THAT?
11:35:46AM WHAT ARE OUR PROBLEMS AND HOW CAN YOU FIX THEM?
11:35:49AM >>JESUS NINO: FIRST, ALIS AND NICOLE, THEY ARE A GODSEND.
11:35:53AM THEY HAVE TURNED THAT TRAIN.
11:35:55AM THEY HAVE STEERED US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND WE ARE
11:35:57AM GETTING THERE.
11:35:58AM THE PROBLEMS THAT I SEE IS ORGANIZATIONAL.
11:36:01AM IT'S A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE CRA ACTUALLY IS.
11:36:05AM THE CONFUSION THE CITY WITH THE CRA.
11:36:08AM YES, YOU ARE CITY COUNCIL, BUT YOU ARE ALSO CRA BOARD OF
11:36:11AM DIRECTORS.
11:36:12AM CITY HALF STAFF, AND NOT CRA STAFF, CITY STAFF NEEDS TO
11:36:16AM UNDERSTAND THAT THE AGENCY IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE.
11:36:19AM IT IS A SEPARATE ENTITY.
11:36:20AM IT'S AN AGENCY.
11:36:21AM COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
11:36:24AM YOU NEED TO REALIZE THAT WHENEVER WE UNDERTAKE PROJECTS,
11:36:27AM INITIATIVES OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT
11:36:32AM WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING WORK FOR THE CRA.
11:36:35AM YOU HAVE YOUR FUNDS.
11:36:36AM THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE USED.
11:36:39AM I DON'T THINK THERE'S EDUCATION OUT THERE AS FAR AS THE CITY
11:36:44AM BEING EDUCATED ON WHAT CRAS CAN AND CAN'T DO.
11:36:48AM THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE ARE ABLE TO USE OUR FUNDS,
11:36:51AM UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE CRP PLANS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
11:36:55AM IT HAS TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, HAS TO BE
11:36:58AM STATUTORILY CORRECT, HAS TO BE IN YOUR BUDGET.
11:37:03AM IF IT'S NOT IN THERE WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT.
11:37:05AM NOW, WE HAVE THAT, WE HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY CREATIVE WITH IT.
11:37:09AM WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SAY NO.
11:37:11AM WE NEED TO BE CREATIVE WITH WHAT WE HAVE GOT.
11:37:13AM CITY STAFF NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND WE ARE SEPARATE.
11:37:16AM I'M CITY STAFF, BY THE WAY.
11:37:18AM AS A DIRECTOR I WILL BE CITY STAFF.
11:37:20AM BUT WE WILL BE CONTRACTED FOR THE CRA.
11:37:23AM THAT'S THE CLIENT.
11:37:24AM THAT'S WHO TELLS US WHAT TO DO, WHAT IS OUR PLAN, AND OUR
11:37:29AM STATUTES.
11:37:30AM BASICALLY RIGHT NOW WHAT I SEE IS THAT STAFF IS -- NOT
11:37:34AM SAYING ANYTHING BAD THE WAY IT'S COMPOSED, THE STRUCTURE,
11:37:36AM BUT IF I WAS TO BECOME THE DIRECTOR, I WOULD CLEAR THAT
11:37:40AM TABLE, AND I WOULD RESET THAT TABLE.
11:37:42AM THE WAY IT'S SET UP RIGHT NOW, THE STRUCTURE AND THE
11:37:45AM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS 15 YEARS AGO.
11:37:50AM WE NEED TO EVALUATE OURSELVES, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS NOW, AND
11:37:55AM RESTRUCTURE OUR DEPARTMENT.
11:37:57AM IT NEEDS TO HAVE A HARD RESET BIG TIME.
11:38:03AM NICOLE AND ALIS HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT.
11:38:05AM THEY HAVEN'T REALLY LAID OUT ANY PLANS THEY MIGHT HAVE TO
11:38:08AM THAT ON ME BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMPLETE RESET.
11:38:12AM THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMPLETE RESET HOW WE ENGAGE THAT
11:38:16AM COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND COMING
11:38:18AM BACK BEAT UP.
11:38:19AM WHY DO WE KEEP GETTING BEAT UP?
11:38:22AM HOW ABOUT WE SIT DOWN AND FIGURE THAT OUT, BRING THEM TO THE
11:38:25AM TABLE, FIX IT.
11:38:27AM HAVE A HARD RESET COMPLETELY.
11:38:29AM SAME THING WITH THE BOARD HERE.
11:38:31AM MR. CARLSON IS PASSIONATE TO BRING UP THE PAST, HE HAS
11:38:36AM LEGITIMATE CONCERNS, AND I RESPECT HIM A LOT BIG TIME.
11:38:39AM I HAVE NEVER SEEN SOMEONE DIG INTO DATA THE WAY HE DOES.
11:38:43AM I SAW HIM AT BUDGET MEETINGS.
11:38:45AM GREAT JOB, BY THE WAY.
11:38:46AM BUT THERE'S LEGITIMATE CONCERNS AND WE NEED TO PUT THAT
11:38:49AM BEHIND US, LEARN FROM IT, AND JUST MOVE FORWARD.
11:38:53AM GROW A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY, WITH THE COMMUNITY, SIT
11:38:55AM WITH THEM HAD, DON'T BE AFRAID TO GET OUT THERE.
11:38:57AM AND THAT'S WHAT I DO.
11:38:59AM I GET OUT THERE.
11:38:59AM I WALK THE STREET.
11:39:00AM I WILL SIT DOWN WITH A HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL AND CONVERSATION,
11:39:04AM AND SIT DOWN WITH A DEVELOPER WITH A MILLION DOLLARS AND
11:39:09AM CONVERSE.
11:39:10AM I FEEL COMFORTABLE NO MATTER WHERE I AM AT.
11:39:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHEN YOU TALK
11:39:16AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT RESET THE DEPARTMENT,
11:39:19AM HOW DO YOU RESET THE DEPARTMENT?
11:39:21AM TALKING ABOUT PROGRAMS?
11:39:22AM TALKING ABOUT CRA?
11:39:25AM HOW DO WE DO RESET?
11:39:27AM >>JESUS NINO: WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS NOT LETTING GO OF
11:39:30AM ANYBODY.
11:39:30AM WE HAVE A TALENTED STAFF.
11:39:32AM RIGHT NOW THE STAFF IS VERY SILENT, THE YBOR CITY STAFF,
11:39:41AM TAKE POSITIONS ELSEWHERE FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO STEP IN FROM
11:39:46AM ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, ANOTHER CRA AREA, IT'S ALMOST LIKE
11:39:49AM STARTING A NEW JOB.
11:39:52AM WE ARE SO SILOED.
11:39:54AM WE DON'T WORK TOGETHER THAT WELL AND THESE ARE TALENTED
11:39:57AM INDIVIDUALS.
11:39:57AM THAT TALENT NEEDS TO BE TAPPED INTO.
11:39:59AM AND WHENEVER YOU DO THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING A STAFF MEETING
11:40:02AM WHERE THEY ARE SITTING THERE, THIS IS WHAT I AM DOING NOW, A
11:40:11AM LIST, NO REAL FEEDBACK.
11:40:13AM OTHER PERSON NOT PAYING ATTENTION.
11:40:15AM INSTEAD OF WORK SHOPPING WHAT WE DO TOGETHER.
11:40:20AM IF WE ORGANIZE OUR BUDGETS, TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF EACH AREA
11:40:23AM AND PUT IT IN EVERYBODY'S SALARY, SO THAT WHENEVER WE DO
11:40:27AM HAVE PROBLEMS IN EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, WE CAN IMMEDIATELY
11:40:31AM PUT TOGETHER A PROJECT TEAM OF TALENTED INDIVIDUALS.
11:40:34AM WE NEED TO TAP INTO THOSE TALENTS.
11:40:37AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL DAY LONG --
11:40:44AM >>JESUS NINO: I SIT DOWN WITH INDIVIDUALS.
11:40:47AM SAME THING WITH YBOR CITY.
11:40:50AM YOU KNOW HOW TO DO ALL THIS.
11:40:52AM FOR INSTANCE, I'M SHORT OF STAFF.
11:40:54AM IT'S JUST THE WAY THE SET-UP IS.
11:40:56AM I'M A WORKAHOLIC.
11:40:57AM I WORK AND WORK AND WORK.
11:40:59AM I TRY TO WORK SMART SMARTER AND I REACH OUT TO OTHER CITY
11:41:02AM INDIVIDUALS TO HELP ME OUT BUT AT THE SAME TIME THE
11:41:04AM STRUCTURE WAS DIFFERENT, SOMEONE ELSE FROM A DIFFERENT SILO,
11:41:10AM ELIMINATE THE STEP IN IMMEDIATELY TO HELP, QUICKLY.
11:41:13AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU THINK WE NEED PROJECT MANAGERS?
11:41:17AM I DON'T THINK WE HAVE PROJECT MANAGERS.
11:41:20AM >>JESUS NINO: THEY ARE THE PROJECT MANAGERS.
11:41:24AM WE NEED TO GET THEM WELL EDUCATED, WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO
11:41:28AM BE, MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS A SUPERSTAR, EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE
11:41:31AM THAT LEADER.
11:41:33AM IF A DIRECTOR LEFT ANYONE COULD STEP IN QUICKLY, MAKE SURE
11:41:36AM THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING, UNDERSTAND THE
11:41:38AM STATUTE WELL, UNDERSTANDS THE PLANS WELL, UNDERSTANDS THE
11:41:43AM POLICIES THAT THE BOARD HAS IN PLACE WELL, AND UNDERSTANDS
11:41:47AM THAT PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING THE CRA RELATED.
11:41:50AM ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND ALL THAT YOU CAN COMMUNICATE BETTER TO
11:41:52AM THE COMMUNITY, YOU CAN GET TO THAT QUICKER WITH THE
11:41:55AM COMMUNITY, AND YOU CAN BE MORE CREATIVE, BIG TIME WITH THE
11:42:00AM COMMUNITY.
11:42:01AM I HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS.
11:42:03AM AS FAR AS THOSE MANAGERS, THEY SUPPORT THE PROJECT MANAGERS.
11:42:07AM I THINK OTHER POSITIONS SHOULD BE RESTRUCTURED A LITTLE BIT
11:42:09AM AS FAR AS MARKETING, COMMUNICATION.
11:42:10AM WE HAVE A SUPERSTAR THERE, NEEDS TO BE LET LOOSE.
11:42:14AM JUST MARKET WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE.
11:42:15AM MARKET OUR PROGRAMS.
11:42:17AM HAVE OUR DASHBOARD PER NORM ANSWER ON OUR WEBSITE.
11:42:22AM ALL OUR PROGRESS IN THE COMMUNITY RIGHT THERE, SOCIAL MEDIA,
11:42:27AM YOU NAME IT, WEBSITE, DATA.
11:42:29AM GIVE THEM ALL THE DATA THEY GOT.
11:42:31AM BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE.
11:42:33AM HAVE THE BUDGETS RIGHT THERE ON THE WEBSITE.
11:42:35AM WHERE ARE WE AT WITH OUR GOALS FOR THAT BUDGET, HOW MUCH
11:42:39AM HAVE WE SPENT SO FAR?
11:42:41AM JUST BE VERY TRANSPARENT.
11:42:43AM JUST GIVE IT TO THEM AND WORK WITH THEM, CONSTANT FEEDBACK.
11:42:47AM ONE OF THE THINGS I DO KNOW, WHENEVER WE DO STUDIES OUT
11:42:50AM THERE, THESE CONSULTANTS, THEY COME IN WITH EXTRAORDINARY
11:42:54AM IDEAS ON HOW TO ENGAGE THAT COMMUNITY.
11:42:57AM AND THEY DO ENGAGE.
11:42:59AM SAP FOR EAST TAMPA, THEY HAD ALL THESE -- I AM NOT SAYING
11:43:03AM ANYTHING GOOD OR BAD ABOUT THAT SAP.
11:43:06AM SOME OF THE MENTALITIES WE USE TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.
11:43:09AM ONCE YOU TAKE THOSE METHODOLOGIES INSTEAD OF JUST BEING
11:43:12AM STUCK IN THAT PLAN THEY ARE SHOULD HAVE HAD AWAY.
11:43:15AM AND STAFF COMES BACK, AND IT'S THE SAME OL' SAME OL'.
11:43:20AM WE NEED TO DO OUR OWN PERSONAL SWAT, OUR TEAM SWAT, AND JUST
11:43:27AM BE ORGANIC.
11:43:29AM AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHAT I MEAN BY RESET, IS JUST
11:43:32AM THE ORGANIC, DO OUR OWN NEEDS ASSESSMENT, WORKING WITH THAT
11:43:36AM COMMUNITY AND CRA BOARD WHICH IS MOST IMPORTANT, BECAUSE CRA
11:43:39AM BOARD, WE ARE IN CHARGE OF THE AGENCY.
11:43:45AM WORK COLOR CLOSE BY WHEN WE DO WORK WITH YOU, THAT THERE ARE
11:43:50AM CONVERSATIONS, NOT JUST TELL THEM WHAT WE ARE DOING.
11:43:54AM SHARE THAT FEEDBACK WITH EACH OTHER.
11:43:56AM AT LARGO, I CHANGED THAT STAFF, AND I TOOK OVER THAT
11:43:59AM PLANNING DIVISION, IT CHANGED.
11:44:00AM AND I WAS -- THE STAFF MAY HAVE HATED ME AT FIRST BUT ONCE
11:44:05AM THEY SAW IT, I BROUGHT UP THEIR CAPACITY, THEIR TALENT,
11:44:09AM ADDED TO THEIR TALENTS.
11:44:11AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GLAD YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE I HAVE SAID
11:44:14AM THAT A LONG TIME.
11:44:15AM I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD BE CROSS TRAINED.
11:44:17AM I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE A SILO.
11:44:19AM I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT MYSELF.
11:44:21AM EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW WHAT OTHER CRAs ARE DOING.
11:44:24AM YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AREA BUT IT SHOULD
11:44:27AM BE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.
11:44:30AM AND AGAIN, IF I HAVE GOT EAST TAMPA, I KNOW IT HAS ISSUES, I
11:44:35AM WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW SOME R TO PUT THEIR OWN IDEAS.
11:44:38AM SO I APPRECIATE YOUR CANDOR, AND YOU HIT ON TWO OBJECTIVES.
11:44:47AM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:44:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:44:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:44:52AM YOU ANSWERED A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. I
11:44:54AM APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION, AND ALSO KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE
11:44:58AM TIME NOR DO WE HAVE ROOM FOR ERROR.
11:45:00AM WE ARE TOO BUSY, AS YOU KNOW, AS A CITY, YOU SEE HOW WEST
11:45:04AM TAMPA HAS BEEN, HOW DREW PARK HAS BEEN, ALL THAT AREA.
11:45:07AM BUT I THINK WE ARE EXPERIENCING A RENAISSANCE.
11:45:11AM I MENTIONED BE THIS TO OTHER CANDIDATES.
11:45:14AM BUTT I WANT EVERYBODY TO ENJOY THOSE, AND AGAIN EAST TAMPA
11:45:18AM BEING THE LARGEST CRA, WE HAVE SEEN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT
11:45:22AM THRIVE AND CHANGE AND CONTINUE TO GROW IN DOWNTOWN, BUT
11:45:26AM EQUITY.
11:45:27AM EQUITY ACROSS THE BOARD.
11:45:29AM SO WE ALL WIN.
11:45:31AM ALL CITIZENS OF TAMPA WIN.
11:45:32AM ALL COMMUNITY WINS.
11:45:33AM AND I PLEASURE YOU NOT LOOKING JUST OUTSIDE THE BOX,
11:45:37AM THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, BUT KNOW HOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO
11:45:39AM UTILIZE ALL TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US, AS WELL AS THE
11:45:43AM CAC, THE COMMUNITY'S VOICE.
11:45:46AM IT'S NOT JUST WE ARE THE BOARD AND WE OVERSEE THE AGENCY.
11:45:50AM THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE PEOPLE.
11:45:53AM AND THOSE CACs AS YOU KNOW BECAUSE YOU WORK WITH THE WEST
11:45:56AM TAMPA ONE, VERY PASSIONATE, VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE, GIVING THEIR
11:46:01AM TIME FOR FREE AS VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE SEE THIS
11:46:04AM COMMUNITY -- WHEN I SAY COMMUNITY, ENTIRE CITY SUCCEED,
11:46:08AM ESPECIALLY THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT BEHIND, AND NOW
11:46:11AM IS THE TIME TO DO IT.
11:46:13AM THERE IS NO REASON THAT WE DON'T LOOK BACK FIVE, TEN, 20
11:46:17AM YEARS FROM NOW AND SAY THAT WE FAILED.
11:46:20AM YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE.
11:46:24AM AGAIN, YOU KNOW, NOW I BELIEVE THE IRON IS HAUTE.
11:46:28AM IT'S TIME TO STRIKE.
11:46:29AM AND NOT LEAVE ANY STONE UNTURNED.
11:46:33AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PASSION.
11:46:35AM YOU SAID A LOT OF GOOD THINGS.
11:46:38AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU RANG THAT BELL AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:46:43AM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:46:43AM >>JESUS NINO: IF I COULD MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.
11:46:51AM ALISON HEWITT --
11:47:07AM BACK HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.
11:47:08AM MR. HAGAN.
11:47:10AM INDIVIDUALS LIKE THAT THAT ARE PASSIONATE.
11:47:17AM (NO AUDIO)
11:47:19AM TO GIVE THEIR FREE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:47:27AM WE NEED TO BRING THEM TO THE TABLE.
11:47:29AM I DID SIT DOWN WITH MS. HEWITT.
11:47:34AM SHE HAS LIMITLESS KNOWLEDGE THAT SHE CAN BE SHARING WITH US.
11:47:45AM BRING THEM TO THE TABLE.
11:47:46AM SEE WHAT THEY GOT.
11:47:47AM LET'S WORK IT OUT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN PUT DIAGNOSE TO
11:47:50AM BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.
11:47:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:47:52AM YOU KNOW, WE CAN ONLY DO AND SAY SO MUCH AS A BOARD OR STAFF
11:47:55AM OR WE ARE WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF OUR JOB AND OUR ELECTED
11:48:01AM POSITION, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT VOICE HEAR, THE MOST
11:48:04AM IMPORTANT PEOPLE, THE CACs. THOSE ARE MEMBERS OF THE
11:48:07AM COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE -- WE GET A CERTAIN PERSPECTIVE.
11:48:11AM AND WE LIVE IN A COMMUNITY AND WHATNOT.
11:48:13AM BUT THEY SEE THE DAY-TO-DAY -- THEY HEAR THE VOICES OF THE
11:48:18AM PEOPLE.
11:48:18AM THEY SEE WHERE WE ARE --
11:48:25AM THAT IS THE MOST VALUABLE AND IMPORTANT, AND AGAIN THEIR
11:48:28AM LIMITLESS KNOWLEDGE, BECAUSE IN ONE SEES BETTER THAN THEY
11:48:31AM DO.
11:48:32AM AND WHEN WE BUILD THIS COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP AND BRING THEM
11:48:35AM TO THE TABLE, WHERE THEY ARE NOT WASTING THEIR TIME, THEIR
11:48:39AM VOICES ARE HEARD AND THE IDEAS ARE IMPLEMENTED IN WHATEVER
11:48:41AM CAPACITY WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT
11:48:44AM THING.
11:48:44AM AND THAT'S WHAT WILL ALLOW US TO SUCCEED.
11:48:47AM AND AGAIN THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE FAIL AT THIS POINT.
11:48:50AM WE CAN'T MAKE EXCUSES FOR THE PAST AND WHATNOT.
11:48:53AM OUR TIME IS NOW.
11:48:55AM AND WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD ...
11:49:01AM (NO AUDIO)
11:49:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE NEED TO SEE HOW IT'S ACTUALLY SUPPOSED
11:50:40AM TO WORK.
11:50:40AM AND I AM GLAD THAT TO ACTUALLY SEE, AND COME BACK TALKING
11:50:49AM ABOUT THINGS WE NEED TO DEAL WITH.
11:50:51AM SO THANK YOU.
11:50:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA?
11:50:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
11:51:00AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU NEED TO GO TO THAT TO SEE HOW IT'S
11:51:03AM SUPPOSED TO WORK AND I AM GLAD THAT WE HAD OUR PEOPLE, OUR
11:51:06AM CRAs TO ACTUALLY SEE.
11:51:08AM I THINK THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WENT ARE GOING TO COME
11:51:12AM BACK TALKING ABOUT THINGS, SO THANK YOU.
11:51:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA?
11:51:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
11:51:23AM [~MUSIC~]
11:51:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.
11:59:25AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE CONCENTRATION.
11:59:26AM YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE THINGS THAT COME TO THE EYE, FOR
11:59:32AM WHATEVER CHANGE HAND HERE.
11:59:33AM SO WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS TO GET THAT DONE?
11:59:37AM >>JESUS NINO: AS FAR AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT'S AN
11:59:40AM EXTREMELY COMPLICATED ISSUE.
11:59:41AM OBVIOUSLY ALL THESE THINK TANKS ALL OVER THE PLACE THAT ARE
11:59:44AM GETTING TOGETHER TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, DENSITY
11:59:48AM BONUSES, LAND TRUSTS, ALL OF THOSE ARE TOOLS.
11:59:51AM AS A CRA ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO THAT TAMPA DOESN'T DO
11:59:54AM CRA IS TIF REBATES FOR A HOTEL.
11:59:59AM WE DON'T NEED TO DO TIF BASED FOR A HOTEL BUT MAYBE FOR AN
12:00:02PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.
12:00:05PM A PORTION FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF YEARS IF THEY ENTER INTO A
12:00:08PM LAND USE RESTRICTION AGREEMENT OR SET-ASIDE UNIT.
12:00:12PM THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS.
12:00:13PM ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT I SEE WITH MUNICIPALITIES IS
12:00:17PM ALSO THEIR REGULATION.
12:00:19PM THEY SLOW DOWN THINGS.
12:00:20PM AND I SEE THE CITY, AND VERY TALENTED PLANNERS, A SUPERSTAR,
12:00:26PM BY THE WAY.
12:00:26PM WE HAVE A LOT OF SUPERSTARS IN THE CITY.
12:00:28PM NEED TO BE TAPPED INTO.
12:00:30PM IF WE CAN GET THOSE REGULATIONS A LITTLE BIT MORE
12:00:33PM STREAMLINED, THEY TAKE AWAY SOME OF THAT COST AND TIME.
12:00:36PM THERE'S JUST SO MANY TECHNIQUES OBVIOUSLY THE CITY HAS,
12:00:40PM DENSITY BONUSES, THEY USE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, CRA,
12:00:45PM AGAIN, WHATEVER WE DO, CAPITAL PROJECTS, ALL THAT OTHER GOOD
12:00:50PM STUFF, WE NEED TO BE -- IF IT'S ALREADY IN THE CIP WE CAN'T
12:00:56PM DO IT.
12:00:57PM IF IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY THEY NEED TO BE DO.
12:01:00PM WE CAN GO OUT AND INTENSIFY AS FAR AS PROJECTS WE DO TO
12:01:02PM MINIMIZE A LITTLE BIT OF COST FOR THOSE DEVELOPERS.
12:01:05PM AT THE END.
12:01:06PM DAY THEY ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY.
12:01:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH YOU TO A POINT BUT I HAVE A
12:01:12PM LITTLE DOUBT, THE REGULATION, SOMETIMES REGULATION NEEDS TO
12:01:16PM DO IT THE RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.
12:01:18PM I AM NOT QUESTIONING YOU.
12:01:20PM I AM JUST SAYING THAT'S MY OPINION.
12:01:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: COMPLICATED ISSUE.
12:01:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
12:01:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS,
12:01:35PM PHONE CALLS, WHEN THEY ASK THE QUESTION, A LOT OF BOARD
12:01:38PM MEMBERS HAVE NEVER HAD AN ACTUAL SEAT.
12:01:41PM DON'T NOTICE HOW IT REALLY WORKS.
12:01:47PM MY FRIEND THE POLICEMAN OVER THERE KNOWS HOW IT IS TO BE A
12:01:51PM SENIOR EMPLOYEE.
12:01:52PM IT'S A DIFFERENT MIND-SET.
12:01:59PM THERE ARE RULES TO THE ORGANIZATION.
12:02:02PM THERE ARE A LOT OF RULES THAT YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
12:02:06PM AND YOU DEFEND SOMETIMES AND DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE
12:02:12PM DEFENDING.
12:02:13PM NEED A CITY EMPLOYEE SOMETIMES WHAT THEY GO THROUGH, CHAIN
12:02:17PM OF COMMAND OR SAYING CERTAIN THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T BE SAID
12:02:19PM OR TOLD.
12:02:33PM YOU COULDN'T SAY IT BUT I CAN SAY IT BECAUSE I KNOW HOW IT
12:02:38PM WORKS.
12:02:38PM THEY WERE TOLD IT NEEDS TO GET DONE.
12:02:43PM WASN'T A TIME FRAME.
12:02:45PM WE WEREN'T READY FOR THAT YET.
12:02:47PM HOLD THEM AT BAY RIGHT NOW.
12:02:50PM THE LAST MANAGER DIRECTOR WAS OVERWHELMED AND KEPT SAYING WE
12:02:55PM NEED TO HIRE.
12:02:56PM OVERWHELMED.
12:02:57PM AT CRA, YOU CAN'T BE A ONE-MAN CRA.
12:03:01PM IT MAKES NO SENSE.
12:03:03PM LIKE MS. TRAVIS HAS FOUR JOBS.
12:03:05PM HOW IS SHE GOING TO RUN A CRA WITH ALL THE RESPONSIBILITIES?
12:03:10PM YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
12:03:18PM SO I KNOW YOU STATED THE QUESTION, MR. CARLSON ANSWERED, I
12:03:26PM KNOW THE PROCESS.
12:03:27PM I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN THERE.
12:03:36PM YOU WERE CANDID.
12:03:38PM HOW DO WE FIX THAT?
12:03:41PM MR. MIRANDA TALKED THE REHAB.
12:03:43PM HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?
12:03:46PM WE HAVE A LOT OF BUILDINGS ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN, OLD
12:03:49PM CHURCHES, AND HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT OUTSOURCING?
12:03:57PM HOW DO YOU GET IT DONE? YOU TALK ABOUT COMING IN AND DOING
12:03:59PM A CONCENTRATION WITH STAFF, BUT I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU,
12:04:03PM IF I WAS A CRA DIRECTOR, I WAS A DIRECTOR, PLAN FOR A JOB,
12:04:09PM AND I KNOW THAT THIS BOARD, ONE OR TWO SPECIFIC AREAS, MY
12:04:14PM MIND-SET WILL BE, I GOT TO DEAL WITH THAT.
12:04:17PM SO HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM AT HAND?
12:04:21PM YOU HAVE BEEN HERE.
12:04:22PM TELL US THE PROBLEM AT HAND FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND HOW
12:04:27PM YOU CAN GO IN AND FIX OR BE ABLE TO START WITH MR. DRUMGO
12:04:35PM AND MS. TRAVIS WILL START IT, TELL ME HOW YOU DO IT.
12:04:39PM >>JESUS NINO: THAT BALL IS ROLLING HARD DO I KNOW THAT
12:04:44PM HILL.
12:04:45PM SO THEY GOT THAT STARTED.
12:04:47PM BUT AS FAR AS ME, I WOULD TRY TO -- THIS IS WHAT I ALREADY
12:04:51PM DO.
12:04:52PM I TRY TO FIND THE QUICKEST WAY TO GET IT, AND I TRY TO
12:04:57PM OPERATE ON SPEED BUT ALSO DOING THINGS CORRECTLY AND
12:05:00PM LEGALLY.
12:05:05PM LET'S SAY FOR EAST TAMPA.
12:05:06PM I AM NOT SURE WHY THEY AREN'T MOVING AS QUICKLY AS THEY ARE.
12:05:09PM BUT IF I DID GET IN THERE, I WOULD FIND OUT QUICKLY, TRY TO
12:05:13PM FIX THOSE.
12:05:14PM AS FAR AS WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE, IF WE NEED TO HIRE A
12:05:17PM CONSULTANT TO BRING IN TO HELP TO BUY THOSE PROPERTIES,
12:05:21PM LET'S DO IT. IF THE CRA BEING THE OWNER OF THOSE
12:05:23PM PROPERTIES, LET'S DO IT.
12:05:27PM I AM NOT USED TO HAVING A CITY -- I JUST CAME FROM A
12:05:33PM DIFFERENT WORLD WHERE IF CRA HAD A TIF FUND THEY GOT BOUGHT,
12:05:39PM UNDER THE OWNERSHIP OF THAT CRA, AND THAT MIGHT SPEED UP THE
12:05:42PM PROCESS AS WELL.
12:05:44PM AND AT THE END OF THE DAY ONCE THESE SUNSET IT'S GOING TO
12:05:48PM TRANSFER TO THE CITY, SELL IT TO A PROPERTY OWNER FOR SOME
12:05:51PM REASON.
12:05:55PM I WOULD JUST TRY TO FIND THOSE INEFFICIENCIES, FIX THEM AS
12:05:58PM QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
12:05:59PM I AM KIND OF LOOKING AT OTHER MODELS.
12:06:01PM I DID WORK FOR LARGO AND I KNOW THEY STARTED SHIFTING OVER
12:06:04PM TO HEY PERFORMANCE TYPE ORGANIZATIONS THERE AS FAR AS WHERE
12:06:09PM EVERYBODY BECOMES A LEADER, EVERYBODY IS EFFICIENT IN SKILLS
12:06:12PM AND EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU FIND SOME KIND OF IMPEDIMENT YOU
12:06:15PM FIX THAT QUICKLY.
12:06:16PM DON'T LET IT LINGER ON.
12:06:19PM SO I AM LOOKING AT THOSE TYPE MODELS TO BRING HERE, AS FAR
12:06:22PM AS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ORGANIZATION IS MOVING PROJECTS
12:06:26PM QUICKLY, CORRECTLY, IN THE RIGHT WAY, AND WHATEVER IMPACT IT
12:06:32PM HAS FOR THE FUTURE ARE EXTREMELY MINIMAL BUT FOR THE MOST
12:06:36PM PART MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE OUT THERE.
12:06:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
12:06:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M SORRY, I JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW UP.
12:06:46PM JESUS, YOU ANSWERED VERY DIPLOMATICALLY YOU CAN SAY
12:06:51PM SOMETHING ELSE.
12:06:52PM MEMBER GUDES, YOU SAID THAT STAFF WERE TOLD NOT TO IMPLEMENT
12:06:55PM CERTAIN PROJECTS.
12:06:56PM DO YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT?
12:06:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T NEED EVIDENCE TO KNOW HOW THE
12:07:01PM ORGANIZATION WORKS.
12:07:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE I WOULD JUST SAY --
12:07:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ASKED THE QUESTION.
12:07:07PM I DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT.
12:07:09PM I JUST KNOW BEING A LONG-TIME EMPLOYEE HOW THE PROCESS
12:07:13PM WORKS.
12:07:13PM AND THEY KNOW WHERE I AM GOING AND KNOW HOW IT WORKS.
12:07:18PM IT'S JUST A PROCESS WITHIN THE CITY, WHAT THEY CALL FORM OF
12:07:23PM GOVERNMENT.
12:07:25PM SO YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GO AGAINST THE BALL.
12:07:29PM WE DON'T TELL COUNCILWOMAN THAT.
12:07:32PM NOW, WE WERE TOLD NOT TO TELL COUNCIL.
12:07:36PM THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
12:07:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: AND I WILL JUST SAY -- AND I KNOW IT'S
12:07:41PM SLIGHTLY OFF SUBJECT -- BUT THERE'S A LOT OF EVIDENCE OR
12:07:45PM INFORMATION, WE HEARD RUMORS FOR THREE YEARS, THERE'S A LOT
12:07:47PM OF EVIDENCE AND INFORMATION THAT STARTED CIRCULATING ABOUT
12:07:50PM HOW STAFF LOOKS AT CITY COUNCIL, AND HOW THEY TREAT CITY
12:07:55PM COUNCIL, AND IT'S VERY DISTURBING, AND EVEN I WILL TELL MY
12:08:01PM COLLEAGUES IF YOU START TO SEE ANY OF IT EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT
12:08:04PM A TARGET OF IT, I HOPE YOU WILL BE DISTURBED BY IT BECAUSE
12:08:07PM IT'S NOT THE PROFESSIONAL COLLABORATIVE WAY WE SHOULD BE
12:08:10PM WORKING AND IF THERE IS ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT OCCURRING IN
12:08:11PM THE CRA, WE SHOULD FIND OUT ABOUT IT.
12:08:16PM AND JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, I'M A COLLABORATIVE PERSON
12:08:19PM UNTIL NOBODY LISTENS.
12:08:20PM I HAVE HAD IN THE LAST THREE DAYS TWO CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
12:08:23PM CHIEF OF STAFF AND ONE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE I AM
12:08:25PM CONCERNED THIS IS NOT HOW A CITY SHOULD OPERATE.
12:08:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. TRAVIS SAYS THE MAYOR HANDLES ALL
12:08:35PM EMPLOYEE -- TO GET US BACK ON TRACK HERE, FIRST OF ALL, I
12:08:42PM WAS NEVER PRIVY TO WHATEVER HAPPENED BECAUSE I WAS ALWAYS
12:08:47PM FOCUSED ON THE BALL, DOING WHAT I HAD TO DO IN DREW PARK AND
12:08:51PM WEST TAMPA, WORKING WITH YOUR DIRECTION, WORKING WITH THE
12:08:53PM COMMUNITY AND SO FORTH.
12:08:55PM IT MY FOCUS IS THE CRAs.
12:08:58PM WHATEVER HAPPENED.
12:08:59PM AND I RESPECTFULLY WOULD ASK MR. CARLSON, LET'S MOVE THIS
12:09:07PM TRAIN FORWARD MORE.
12:09:09PM LET'S CONTINUE THAT BALL ROLLING, THAT MOMENTUM HAS ALREADY
12:09:13PM BEEN CREATED.
12:09:15PM THERE ARE SUPERSTAR STAFF MEMBERS THERE.
12:09:16PM THEY ARE LIKE ME.
12:09:17PM THEY ARE FOCUSED ON WHAT THEY GOT TO DO.
12:09:22PM YES, WE ARE AWARE OF THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT I WAS NEVER IN
12:09:25PM ANY OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
12:09:27PM I WAS JUST FOCUSED ON WHAT I HAVE GOT TO DO AND THAT'S WHAT
12:09:30PM I WOULD DO, FOCUS, HOW TO WORK, MAKE ANY RELATIONS I HAVE
12:09:36PM TO.
12:09:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK JUST TO END THAT, WE HAVE TO
12:09:38PM UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENED SINCE SEW THAT WE CAN TRY TO
12:09:41PM NEGOTIATE NOT HAVING IT HAPPEN AGAIN AND I HOPE WHOEVER THE
12:09:44PM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS THEY DON'T FACE THAT, AND HEAR ARE TWO
12:09:49PM QUICK EXAMPLES.
12:09:50PM WHEN WE HAD STRAZ CENTER ON THE BUDGET FOR SIX MONTHS AND
12:09:52PM SUDDENLY AT THE END A WRENCH GOT THROWN IN IT, AND THE
12:09:56PM RESULT WAS THAT AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS HIGHLY EXPECTED AND
12:10:00PM GIVES A LOT TO THE COMMUNITY, FELT HUMILIATED AND ALMOST
12:10:06PM DESTROYED THEIR CAPITAL CAMPAIGN.
12:10:08PM WE WERE PUTTING 75 MILLION TO IMPROVE A CITY FACILITY.
12:10:11PM THE OTHER ONE WAS JACKSON HOUSE WHERE WE PUT IN A MILLION
12:10:14PM DOLLARS AND THERE WAS A PREFERENCE CONFERENCE WE WEREN'T
12:10:16PM TOLD ABOUT IT AND BEE WEREN'T INVITED SO I THINK THERE'S A
12:10:20PM LOT OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE GOING FORWARD AND
12:10:22PM HOPEFULLY EVERYONE WILL APPROACH THIS FROM A DIFFERENT
12:10:25PM PERSPECTIVE.
12:10:26PM THANK YOU.
12:10:27PM >>JESUS NINO: LEARN FROM IT AND MOVE FORWARD.
12:10:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO COUNCILMAN
12:10:37PM CARLSON'S QUESTION ABOUT WEST TAMPA A LITTLE BIT AND WHAT
12:10:40PM HAPPENED WITH THE -- WITH THAT BASICALLY EDICT THAT WE WANT
12:10:48PM TO SPEND 30%.
12:10:51PM THIS IS AN EXAMPLE WHERE YOU GOT PUSHBACK FROM THE
12:10:54PM COMMUNITY.
12:10:54PM HOW WERE YOU ABLE TO STILL COMMUNICATE THAT AND PUSH THINGS
12:10:59PM FORWARD AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS WAS AN EDICT THAT WAS
12:11:05PM COMING DOWN? HOW WERE YOU ABLE TO DO THAT AND BASICALLY
12:11:09PM JUST LET THEM KNOW THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO BE DIFFERENT?
12:11:15PM >>JESUS NINO: FIRST OF ALL, KNOWING SOME OF THOSE
12:11:24PM INDIVIDUALS, IF THEY HAD A TRUE ISSUE, THEY WOULD HAVE SHOWN
12:11:27PM UP AT THE CRA MEETING AND SAID WHATEVER THEY WERE GOING TO
12:11:30PM SAY.
12:11:31PM THEY MADE THEIR POINT, AND THEIR POINT WAS CONVERSE WITH
12:11:36PM THEM AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN JUST KIND OF
12:11:41PM THROWING IT AT THEM.
12:11:42PM IF THEY ARE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION, AT THE END OF THE
12:11:44PM DAY, THEY UNDERSTAND THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE OUT THERE, THEY
12:11:48PM UNDERSTAND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A BIG ISSUE, UNDERSTAND
12:11:52PM IT'S A BIG ISSUE THERE IN WEST TAMPA.
12:11:54PM MOST LIKELY THEY WOULD HAVE TAKEN SIMILAR ACTIONS WHATEVER
12:11:58PM BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT DOWN PAYMENT
12:11:59PM ASSISTANCE, ALREADY TALKING ABOUT HOW TO HELP INDIVIDUALS IN
12:12:03PM THEIR HOMES.
12:12:04PM THEY ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT THAT.
12:12:06PM GET TO THEM A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
12:12:08PM AND I KIND OF AGREED WITH SOME OF THEM, MOST OF THEM AS FAR
12:12:12PM AS WHAT THE ISSUES WERE.
12:12:13PM THEY NEED TO BE APPROACHED.
12:12:14PM THEY NEED TO BE PART OF THAT TABLE TO DISCUSS THINGS.
12:12:17PM AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHATEVER DIRECTION THE CRA BOARD
12:12:20PM MAKES, THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE RECOMMENDING ARE AT LEAST
12:12:24PM PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.
12:12:25PM AND THEY DO.
12:12:27PM BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN AT YOUR CRA BOARD.
12:12:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE A DISAGREEMENT
12:12:33PM WITH THEM?
12:12:35PM >>JESUS NINO: I HAVE A DISAGREEMENT.
12:12:37PM IT DEPENDS WHAT THAT DISAGREEMENT IS GOING TO BE ABOUT.
12:12:39PM IF I THINK IT'S SOMETHING, CRA, OR OUR BUDGET, AND I AM
12:12:46PM GOING TO LET YOU KNOW.
12:12:47PM AND IF I AM NOT SURE, WE HAVE GOT LEGAL COUNSEL TO STEP IN.
12:12:51PM IF IT'S MORE OF A POLICY ISSUE OR OTHER DIRECTIONS, WHATEVER
12:12:54PM YOU MAY HAVE, THEN I AM GOING TO DO WHATEVER YOU TELL ME TO
12:12:57PM DO.
12:12:58PM IF I SEE SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS NOT CORRECT I WILL BRING
12:13:01PM IT UP.
12:13:01PM OR IF I WANT TO GIVE YOU ADVICE, TAKE IT BACK TO THE CAC TO
12:13:06PM AVOID ANY ISSUES AS FAR AS THEM BEING NOT PART OF THIS
12:13:12PM CONVERSATION.
12:13:12PM I WILL DOUGH THAT, TOO.
12:13:14PM I CAN'T GIVE YOU ANY SPECIFIC EXAMPLES, BUT I WILL TELL YOU
12:13:19PM WHATEVER I NEED TO TELL YOU.
12:13:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:13:22PM ANYONE ELSE?
12:13:23PM OKAY.
12:13:23PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:13:24PM WE APPRECIATE IT.
12:13:24PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
12:13:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE HAVE --
12:13:36PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I KNOW YOU ARE HUNGRY AND READY TO GET
12:13:39PM OUT.
12:13:39PM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING INTERVIEWS THIS MORNING.
12:13:45PM WE HAVE THE MEET AND GREET THIS AFTERNOON HERE AT THE
12:13:48PM CONVENTION CENTER, 6:00 P.M. TO 7:30.
12:13:52PM THERE IS THE PARKING CODE FOR ANYONE FOR THE PUBLIC THAT
12:13:55PM WANTS TO COME THAT WON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.
12:13:57PM THERE WILL BE REFRESHMENTS.
12:14:01PM IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS LIKE TO PROVIDE OFFLINE, WOULD
12:14:04PM LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT, YOU CAN DO THAT IF YOU NEED
12:14:07PM ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
12:14:08PM I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT YOU WITH THAT.
12:14:10PM NEXT WEEK, WEDNESDAY ON OCTOBER 26 AT 9:00 A.M., HERE AT THE
12:14:13PM CONVENTION CENTER IN THIS ROOM, WE WILL HAVE THE FINAL
12:14:17PM DECISION AND DISCUSSION ON YOUR CRA DIRECTOR AND HOW YOU
12:14:22PM WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED.
12:14:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
12:14:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S FINE, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE FOR YOU
12:14:30PM TO -- YOU HEARD THE CANDIDATES TODAY AS WELL.
12:14:34PM YOU WILL SEE THEM TONIGHT WHEN THEY MEET WITH COMMUNITY
12:14:38PM MEMBERS.
12:14:38PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU BRING BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AS
12:14:41PM WELL TO THE BOARD SO WE AREN'T GOING BACK AND FORTH, AND YOU
12:14:45PM CAN TELL US HOW YOU KIND OF FEEL OR WHAT DIRECTION.
12:14:49PM SO I WOULD LIKE SOME DIRECTION AS WELL, RECOMMENDATION FROM
12:14:52PM YOU.
12:14:54PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YOU PUT ME ON THE SPOT.
12:14:58PM OKAY.
12:14:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
12:15:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST FOR THE SAKE OF DISCLOSURE, ON THE
12:15:06PM 26th, THAT APPARENTLY WASN'T PUT ON MY CALENDAR AND THEN
12:15:10PM I SET A MEDIATION THAT IS NOW COURT ORDERED THAT DAY.
12:15:15PM SO LET ME ASK YOU, ON THE 26th ARE WE GOING TO BE VOTING
12:15:18PM ON THAT DAY?
12:15:20PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S CORRECT.
12:15:21PM THE BOARD WILL VOTE ON WHATEVER DIRECTION, WHETHER IT'S A
12:15:23PM SPECIFIC CANDIDATE, WHETHER YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD OR REDO
12:15:30PM A RECRUITMENT PROCESS, WHATEVER YOUR DIRECTION IS.
12:15:32PM I JUST NEED FEEDBACK FROM YOU.
12:15:34PM I AM HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU OFFLINE.
12:15:36PM I KNOW ABOUT YOUR CONFLICT AND I AM HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU
12:15:39PM OFFLINE AND BRING YOU THAT FEEDBACK TO THE COUNCIL.
12:15:43PM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HEARD IN THE DISCUSSIONS TODAY,
12:15:46PM I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT NOVEMBER WE ARE BRINGING BACK THE
12:15:49PM 30% RECOMMENDATION FROM EACH OF THE CRA DISTRICTS ON HOW
12:15:55PM THEY ARE GOING TO BE USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
12:15:59PM IN DECEMBER I AM BRINGING BACK TO YOU A RECOMMENDATION ON
12:16:01PM STAFFING.
12:16:02PM SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT KEEP THAT IN YOUR MIND THAT THAT'S
12:16:06PM COMING, AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON
12:16:08PM YOUR CRA DIRECTOR SPECIFIC TO STAFFING LEVELS BECAUSE WE
12:16:12PM WILL HAVE A BROADER DISCUSSION.
12:16:14PM STAFFING, DIRECTION, AND SOME OF THAT CROSS COLLABORATION
12:16:17PM THAT WAS MENTIONED TODAY.
12:16:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
12:16:21PM AND I WILL TALK TO YOU ON TWO ISSUES WHICH IS NUMBER ONE THE
12:16:24PM CANDIDATE THAT I THINK IS THE BEST, AS WELL AS MY THOUGHTS
12:16:26PM ON SEEKING MORE CANDIDATES, WHICH I WOULD LIKELY DISAPPROVE
12:16:34PM OF.
12:16:34PM THERE WE GO.
12:16:35PM THANK YOU.
12:16:35PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
12:16:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO, SECONDED
12:16:45PM BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:16:46PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:16:49PM AYE.
12:16:49PM OKAY, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
12:16:50PM [MEETING ADJOURNED]
12:17:01PM
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