TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 20, 2022
9:00 A.M.
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09:01:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OCTOBER 20, 2022.
09:01:16AM I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS THE INVOCATION.
09:01:20AM [LAUGHTER]
09:01:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:01:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:01:49AM WE HAVE THE PLEASURE THIS MORNING OF HAVING REVEREND
09:01:52AM KENDRICK J. GARNER.
09:01:55AM SINCE THE AGE OF 17, HE HAS BEEN TEACHING AND PREACHING THE
09:01:58AM GOSPEL.
09:01:58AM TEACHING EDISON ELEMENTARY IN MY DISTRICTS WITH HILLSBOROUGH
09:02:02AM SCHOOL SYSTEM.
09:02:03AM HE HAS BEEN HONORED WITH A DOCTORATE OF DIVINITY IN JACKSON,
09:02:11AM FLORIDA.
09:02:12AM SELECTED BY WHO'S WHO OF THE CLERGY.
09:02:15AM HE SERVES AS A SENIOR LEAD PASTOR OF THE FRIENDSHIP
09:02:19AM MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH ON LAKE AVENUE.
09:02:21AM HE IS A PUBLISHED AUTHOR WITH THREE WIDELY BOOKS.
09:02:26AM KEEPER OF HOPE, VISION AND SALVATION.
09:02:30AM HE IS MARRIED TO HIS LOVELY WIFE.
09:02:32AM I GIVE YOU REVEREND KENDRICK GARNER.
09:02:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF EVERYBODY CAN PLEASE RISE AND REMAIN
09:02:42AM STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:02:44AM >> PLEASE BOW OUR HEADS.
09:02:46AM HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS PRIVILEGE, THIS
09:02:50AM MOMENT AND OPPORTUNITY.
09:02:51AM WE COME IN THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU GRACE AND WISDOM FOR
09:02:55AM THESE COUNCILMEN AND COUNCILWOMAN.
09:02:58AM WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE THEM KNOWLEDGE, GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION
09:03:02AM FOR THE WELL BEING OF THE CITY IN ALL SECTORS.
09:03:04AM WE PRAY YOU GIVE THEM WISDOM, UNDERSTANDING AND FORESIGHT
09:03:08AM ABOVE THEIR HUMAN UNDERSTANDING AND ACADEMIC MATRICULATION.
09:03:13AM WE ASK THAT YOU DIVINELY PUT YOUR HAND ON THE CITY, DIRECT
09:03:17AM THE CITY IN THE DIRECTION AND PLACE YOU WILL BE WHERE ALL OF
09:03:20AM THE CITIZENS ARE BEING BLESSED AND ALL OF THE CITIZENS ARE
09:03:22AM EXPERIENCING THE BEAUTY OF LIFE BY LIVING IN THIS GREAT
09:03:25AM CITY.
09:03:26AM WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
09:03:27AM WE THANK YOU FOR THE PROTECTION.
09:03:29AM WE SEE STORMS THAT COME AND YOU FAVOR TAMPA.
09:03:32AM AND WE GIVE YOU PRAISE, GLORY AND HONOR FOR THAT.
09:03:35AM WE ASK, GOD, EVEN FOR OUR SOCIAL STORMS, CIVIL STORMS, OUR
09:03:40AM ECONOMIC STORMS, WE THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR ALL LEVELS OF
09:03:45AM STORM THAT YOU SHOW US YOUR SAME GRACE AND YOUR HAND WILL
09:03:49AM TOUCH, CONTROL AND GUIDE THE HEARTS OF THESE MEMBERS.
09:03:51AM THIS IS WHAT QUESTION DO PRAY AND WE ASK THIS IN YOUR LOVING
09:03:56AM NAME JESUS.
09:03:57AM AMEN.
09:03:58AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:04:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, PLEASE BE SEATED.
09:04:13AM ROLL CALL.
09:04:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:04:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:04:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:04:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:04:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:04:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:04:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:04:29AM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:04:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
09:04:37AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:04:39AM GOOD MORNING MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF THE
09:04:43AM PUBLIC.
09:04:43AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNTY ATTORNEY.
09:04:46AM PUBLIC AND CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENTS CAN WATCH ON SPECTRUM
09:04:50AM 640, FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 AND ON THE INTERNET AT
09:04:57AM TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:04:57AM MEMBERS CAN ATTEND IN PERSON AT COUNCIL CHAMBERS 315 E.
09:05:03AM KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY WHAT IS REFERRED
09:05:05AM TO BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND RULES AS COMMUNICATION MEDIA
09:05:09AM TECHNOLOGY.
09:05:09AM THE WAY TO DO THAT IS THROUGH PREREGISTERING AND THE
09:05:14AM INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE IN THE AGENDA, ON THE NOTICE AND
09:05:17AM ON THE CITY'S WEB SITE TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.
09:05:22AM WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM ASKING YOU TO
09:05:25AM WAIVE THE RULES TO ALLOW THE CMT.
09:05:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:05:30AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:05:33AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:05:35AM THANK YOU.
09:05:36AM WE WILL NOW GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE
09:05:40AM ADDENDUMS OF THE AGENDA.
09:05:55AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, DID YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH
09:05:58AM THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AT THIS TIME WITH THE STAFF REPORTS.
09:06:00AM I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHIEF OF STAFF PREPARED SOMETHING TO
09:06:03AM ASSIST YOU OR DO YOU WISH TO --
09:06:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE CHIEF AND I HAVE ALREADY MADE EYE
09:06:10AM CONTACT AND I AM HOPING THAT CHIEF WILL STEP UP TO THE
09:06:13AM PODIUM AT THIS TIME.
09:06:14AM >>JOHN BENNETT: MORE THAN HAPPY TO.
09:06:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
09:06:18AM >>JOHN BENNETT: HERE IS HARD COPY THAT COUNCIL CAN FOLLOW
09:06:22AM ALONG AND PUT THAT ON THE OVERHEAD TO SEE IF THAT HELPS AS
09:06:27AM WELL.
09:06:28AM THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO SUPPORT COUNCIL IN A VERY BUSY,
09:06:32AM COMPLEX AGENDA TODAY.
09:06:33AM I WILL WAIT FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE A COPY.
09:06:36AM WHEN WE DID THE AGENDA VERY VIEW -- FIRST OF ALL, JOHN
09:06:43AM BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
09:06:44AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:06:45AM GOOD MORNING, PUBLIC.
09:06:46AM WE DID THE AGENDA REVIEW AND THE FINAL DRAFT CAME OUT, 26
09:06:52AM STAFF REPORTS WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY VOLUMINOUS.
09:06:57AM I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY AFTER HOURS TO THROW THE STAFF REPORT
09:07:02AM MATRIX AND IF COUNCIL'S PRESSURE WE WILL WALK THROUGH THIS
09:07:06AM AND MAY COMPRESS THE STAFF REPORT WITHOUT MOVING ANY OF THE
09:07:10AM CONTENT AND MOVING THE AGENDA ALONG.
09:07:11AM COUNCIL'S PRESSURE I WILL WALK THROUGH THIS AND SEE IF THERE
09:07:15AM ARE ANY CHANGES.
09:07:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ABSOLUTELY, PLEASE PROCEED.
09:07:18AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THE BEST THING TO DO IF YOU SEE WHAT IS ON
09:07:21AM THE OVERHEAD, I ADDED ROW NUMBERS.
09:07:24AM I APOLOGIZE.
09:07:25AM I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT WHEN I TYPED IT UP.
09:07:27AM IF YOU LOOK AT CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE.
09:07:31AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE FOOTNOTE, ITEM 3-10 ARE STAFF REPORTS
09:07:35AM BASED ON ACTION ITEMS THAT YOU TYPICALLY HAVE A DOLLAR
09:07:38AM AMOUNT WITH THEM.
09:07:39AM I WILL MOVE PAST THOSE FIRST 3-10.
09:07:42AM THE WAY THEY ARE BUNDLED ON THIS MATRIX IS BY THE STAFF
09:07:45AM LEAD.
09:07:45AM THAT WAY EVERYTHING COULD BE BUNDLED TOGETHER FOR THAT
09:07:48AM PARTICULAR STAFF MEMBER OF COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
09:07:51AM BUT ITEM 11, YOU CAN SEE DOWN IN ROW NUMBER 9, THAT BELONGS
09:07:57AM TO CITY COUNCIL.
09:07:58AM SO THAT COULD BE PRESENTED THERE.
09:08:01AM ITEM 12 -- I FURTHER THE MOTION MAKER THERE IN CASES THERE
09:08:05AM ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE MOTION MAKER.
09:08:07AM SO ITEM 12 ALSO IS A CITY COUNCIL ITEM IN ROW 9.
09:08:12AM ITEM 13 IS A TPD ITEM.
09:08:17AM AND, AGAIN, I THINK CITY -- CITY ATTORNEY MEGAN NEWCOMB IS
09:08:23AM HERE AS WELL AS DEPUTY CHIEF CALVIN JOHNSON.
09:08:27AM NO ACTION REQUIRED ON THAT.
09:08:28AM AND THERE IS A MEMORANDUM.
09:08:30AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CARRY THESE -- AS FAR AS WHAT
09:08:33AM YOU NORMALLY DO AND SAY, YES, YOU NEED THE PERSON THERE.
09:08:36AM I WILL ASSUME THE STAFF WILL NEED TO BE HERE UNTIL I HEAR
09:08:40AM OTHERWISE.
09:08:40AM ITEM 14 IS -- IT'S IN ROW 3, UNDER "ADMINISTRATOR WYNN."
09:08:51AM ITEM 15 IS IN ROW NUMBER 4 WITH DIRECTOR BHIDE.
09:08:57AM ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE.
09:08:59AM YOU CAN SEE THAT.
09:09:00AM AND ROW 8, I APOLOGIZE.
09:09:04AM ITEM 17, YOU CAN SEE ALSO IN ROW 8.
09:09:09AM 18, 19 AND 20 ARE ALSO IN ROW 8.
09:09:14AM MANY OF THOSE REQUIRE A CONTINUANCE SO I THINK THOSE COULD
09:09:18AM BE MOVED IN A BLOCK IF COUNCIL AND MR. SHELBY AGREE WITH
09:09:23AM THAT.
09:09:23AM WHEN WE GET TO ITEM 21, OBVIOUSLY THAT IS UP IN ROW 4 WITH
09:09:29AM DIRECTOR BHIDE.
09:09:31AM IF THOSE TWO ARE HANDLED TOGETHER THAT COULD MOVE THAT
09:09:34AM QUICKLY.
09:09:34AM ITEM 22 IS ALSO WITH ADMINISTRATOR WYNN IN ROW 3.
09:09:41AM IF MISS WYNN IS UP HANDLE 14 AND 22 TOGETHER, THAT CAN BE
09:09:47AM COMPRESSED.
09:09:47AM ITEM 23, AS YOU NOTE, IS ALSO A COUNCIL ITEM IN ROW 9.
09:09:52AM ITEM 24, 25, 26 AND 27, I ADOPTED THOSE TO BUNDLE THOSE
09:10:02AM TOGETHER PAUSE THEY HAVE LIKE CONTENT AND I WAS GOING TO
09:10:05AM SUGGEST PRESENTING THAT UNDER ADMINISTRATOR UPDATE ITEM 3
09:10:09AM BECAUSE MAY HAVE BENEFIT FOR COUNCIL FOR SOME OF THE REST OF
09:10:12AM THE ITEMS.
09:10:14AM FINALLY WHEN WE GET TO 28, THAT, AGAIN, IS A COUNCIL ITEM.
09:10:18AM SO IF IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE -- AND THIS DOESN'T
09:10:21AM NECESSARILY DESCRIBE THE ORDER FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, JUST
09:10:25AM SAYING THAT WHEN THOSE ITEMS COME UP IN A BUNDLE, YOU WILL
09:10:29AM HAVE IS THE ADMINISTRATOR'S ATTENTION FOR BOTH OF THOSE
09:10:31AM ITEMS.
09:10:32AM ON THE FAR RIGHT, I PUT THE FACT THAT THERE IS ACTION
09:10:35AM REQUIRED OR NOT.
09:10:36AM THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT COUNCIL MAY NOT TAKE ACTION ON IT.
09:10:40AM IT JUST MEANS THAT THE ONES THAT SAY YES REQUIRE SOME SORT
09:10:43AM OF A VOTE TODAY TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
09:10:46AM SO IF COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO FOLLOW THIS SEQUENCE EITHER BY
09:10:50AM NUMBER OR BY STAFF MEMBER, WE ARE PREPARED TO DO EITHER ONE.
09:10:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:10:57AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:10:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. BENNETT, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT YOU
09:11:02AM ALL WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE NUMBER 24.
09:11:06AM I KNOW YOU SAID YOU MIGHT ADDRESS IT.
09:11:09AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WILL ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE TOGETHER, IF
09:11:11AM THAT'S OKAY.
09:11:12AM >>BILL CARLSON: TALK ABOUT IT TODAY AND CONTINUE IT UNDER
09:11:17AM DISCUSSION.
09:11:18AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WANTED TO BRING IT UP TODAY.
09:11:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR BREVITY, CAN WE CONTINUE IT.
09:11:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT UP.
09:11:27AM >>JOHN BENNETT: LET'S MAKE --
09:11:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU CAN STILL TALK ABOUT IT IN THE ADMIN
09:11:35AM REPORT.
09:11:35AM >>JOHN BENNETT: ALL RIGHT, PERFECT.
09:11:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: I -- I ASKED I THINK BY MEMO TO CONTINUE 15
09:11:41AM AND 16.
09:11:42AM >>JOHN BENNETT: CORRECT.
09:11:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHEN WE RUN THROUGH THE AGENDA ITEMS, WE
09:11:47AM WILL DO SO AT THE TIME.
09:11:48AM >>JOHN BENNETT: ITEM 15 WAS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE AS WELL.
09:11:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: 15 IS TIDE TO 16.
09:11:57AM >>JOHN BENNETT: UNDERSTOOD.
09:11:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: RUNNING THROUGH THE AGENDA.
09:12:00AM I LIKE THE MATRIX.
09:12:02AM >>JOHN BENNETT: FAIR ENOUGH.
09:12:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
09:12:05AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH
09:12:08AM THESE BECAUSE EACH ONE HAS AN EXTENSIVE MEMORANDUM THAT MAY
09:12:12AM SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND NOT HAVE THE PRESENTATION.
09:12:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS WHAT I JUST SAID.
09:12:16AM WE WILL GO THROUGH IT.
09:12:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
09:12:18AM THANK YOU.
09:12:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM GOING TO ASK THE MAKER OF THE MOTIONS
09:12:23AM IF THE MEMOS THEY HAVE RECEIVED FROM STAFF ARE ADEQUATE FOR
09:12:26AM THEM ALSO.
09:12:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT ALSO A QUESTION FOR EVERY MEMBER OF
09:12:32AM COUNCIL BECAUSE ONCE IT IS A MOTION OF COUNCIL, IT REALLY IS
09:12:35AM -- IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS A QUESTION THAT COULD CERTAINLY
09:12:38AM RESOLVE IF THEY WANT TO HAVE STAFF PRESENT, THEY CAN
09:12:41AM CERTAINLY ARRANGE THAT.
09:12:44AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO START AT 11
09:12:47AM BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE BEFORE 11 REQUIRING A VOTE.
09:12:51AM MONETIZED.
09:12:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ARE ASKING IN YOUR STAFF REPORT FOR
09:12:55AM ADMINISTRATION UPDATE FOR 24, 25, 26 AND 27 TO BE HEARD AT
09:13:00AM THE SAME TIME?
09:13:00AM >>JOHN BENNETT: CORRECT.
09:13:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:13:02AM >>JOHN BENNETT: ITEM 4 WAS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE.
09:13:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO TIME CERTAIN ON THAT?
09:13:11AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT'S CORRECT.
09:13:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN ON ITEM 4 --
09:13:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAIT, WAIT.
09:13:16AM I AM SORRY.
09:13:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AM I RECOGNIZED SIR?
09:13:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
09:13:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
09:13:22AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:13:26AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 4, I RECOGNIZED REQUEST FOR
09:13:33AM CONTINUANCE AND REPRESENTATIVE HART IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT
09:13:36AM ITEM.
09:13:36AM I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF WANTS TO HEAR FROM HIS HART OR NOT,
09:13:39AM BUT SHE IS HERE.
09:13:40AM AND I GUESS SHE IS GIVING ITEMS TO COUNCILMEMBERS AS WELL.
09:13:44AM SOMETHING IS HAPPENING.
09:13:45AM I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CONTINUING, BUT MISS HART IS
09:13:49AM HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM.
09:13:51AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
09:13:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND ALSO 4 AND 5, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
09:13:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION
09:14:04AM THAT YOU KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA UNTIL YOU HEAR AT LEAST WHAT
09:14:07AM THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY.
09:14:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
09:14:09AM ITEMS 5, 6 AND 7 WILL BE HEARD TOGETHER.
09:14:14AM >>JOHN BENNETT: FIVE IS A STAND ALONE.
09:14:18AM 6, 7 AND 8 WILL BE HEARD TOGETHER.
09:14:21AM AND THAT'S UNDER CFO ROGERO.
09:14:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:14:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CARLSON.
09:14:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. BENNETT, YOU WILL TALK OF TRANSPARENCY
09:14:35AM TODAY.
09:14:35AM NUMBER 6 DOESN'T HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT.
09:14:38AM YOU PULL UP THE BACK UP AND A HIGHER NUMBER OF 312 MILLION
09:14:42AM AND SEEMS THAT SHOULD BE CONTINUED BECAUSE THE NUMBER WAS
09:14:45AM NOT THERE.
09:14:45AM NUMBER 7, ALSO $61 MILLION.
09:14:48AM I THINK IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE NUMBERS THAT BIG FOR
09:14:53AM WHATEVER, THAT THE NUMBER SHOULD BE IN THE DISCLOSURE AND
09:14:56AM THE SUMMARY SO THE PUBLIC CAN QUICKLY SEE IT.
09:14:59AM I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU.
09:15:01AM I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT I WILL LEAVE IT TO YOU.
09:15:04AM MY MOTION FOR TRANSPARENCY WILL BE TO CONTINUE IT FOR NEXT
09:15:10AM WEEK.
09:15:10AM >>JOHN BENNETT: CHIEF ROGERO.
09:15:13AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO THE ADMINISTRATOR
09:15:17AM HANDLING IT.
09:15:18AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: REAL QUICKLY ON THE ITEMS.
09:15:20AM REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS.
09:15:23AM WE HAVE MR. MILLER TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THESE RESOLUTIONS
09:15:28AM MEAN.
09:15:29AM IN THE RECITALS IT IND CATES THAT WE WILL HAVE A BOND UP TO
09:15:35AM THAT AMOUNT.
09:15:36AM THESE RESOLUTIONS DON'T APPROVE THE AMOUNT.
09:15:38AM JUST THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT STARTING CERTAIN PROJECTS IN
09:15:42AM ADVANCE TO THE BOND ISSUANCE.
09:15:44AM IF WE ISSUE THE BONDS.
09:15:47AM WE HAVE TO HAVE THE RESOLUTIONS PASS TO PAY FOR THOSE
09:15:51AM PROJECTS OUT OF THE BOND ISSUANCE SO THAT'S HOW --
09:15:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN WE GET TO IT, I WILL ASK QUESTIONS FOR
09:15:57AM THE.PUBLIC, BUT MY POINT IS THE PUBLIC -- WE HAVE A LOT OF
09:16:00AM PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC THAT READ THE AGENDA AND HAD THEY SEEN
09:16:04AM THE $312 MILLION OR $61 MILLION NUMBER.
09:16:07AM IT WOULD HAVE CAUGHT THEIR ATTENTION.
09:16:09AM LUCKILY I READ THE BACK-UP AND SAW IT, BUT WHATEVER IT IS
09:16:13AM FOR, I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE.
09:16:16AM SO MY -- AGAIN, I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU.
09:16:19AM MY SUGGESTION THAT WE CONTINUE IT UNTIL NEXT WEEK TO GIVE
09:16:22AM THE PUBLIC A CHANCE --
09:16:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU WANT TO MAKE IT A MOTION -- THEN LET'S
09:16:27AM MOVE FORWARD PLEASE.
09:16:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO THEM.
09:16:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE NOW AT NUMBER 9.
09:16:33AM >>JOHN BENNETT: CORRECT.
09:16:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:16:35AM NUMBER 9 IS REQUESTED TO MOVE FORWARD AND REQUIRES A VOTE.
09:16:40AM AND POLICE FEELEY IS HERE FOR THAT.
09:16:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NUMBER 10, CHIEF.
09:16:46AM >>JOHN BENNETT: NUMBER 10 REQUIRES A VOTE AND THE DIRECTOR
09:16:52AM IS HERE.
09:16:52AM NUMBER 11 IS COUNCIL'S ITEM.
09:16:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 12?
09:17:01AM >>JOHN BENNETT: 12, AGAIN, IS AN ITEM FOR COUNCIL TO
09:17:04AM DISCUSS.
09:17:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, THAT IS YOUR MOTION.
09:17:09AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: 12, YOU SAID?
09:17:13AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THE BUDGET ADVISORY --
09:17:16AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, YES.
09:17:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, 13.
09:17:19AM >>JOHN BENNETT: ITEM 13 IS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND
09:17:22AM THEY ARE PRESENT.
09:17:22AM RECOMMEND GOING FORWARD ON THAT.
09:17:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, 14.
09:17:26AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, THAT IS ALSO YOURS.
09:17:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO STAFF NEEDED.
09:17:31AM I WILL MAKE COMMENTS ON IT INCLUDING ON THE GROUNDBREAKING
09:17:35AM AND OTHER ISSUES, BUT, NO, NO STAFF NEEDED FOR THAT.
09:17:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:17:40AM 15, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:17:45AM >>JOHN BENNETT: REQUEST TO CONTINUE.
09:17:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: 15 AND 16 TO BE SEEN IN STAFF REPORTS ON
09:17:51AM MARCH 16.
09:17:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MARCH 16.
09:17:53AM I HAD DOWN HERE FEBRUARY 23.
09:17:55AM SO YOU ARE SAYING MARCH 16.
09:17:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, PLEASE.
09:18:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 15 AND 16.
09:18:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:18:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:18:06AM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:18:09AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:18:12AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:18:13AM ANY OPPOSED.
09:18:15AM THANK YOU 17, CHIEF.
09:18:19AM >>JOHN BENNETT: CHAIRMAN, 17-250 HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO
09:18:22AM CONTINUE, BUT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT DATES TIED TO THOSE AND I
09:18:26AM DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT ONE AT A TIME FOR
09:18:29AM CONTINUANCE.
09:18:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 17 TO OCTOBER 27 --
09:18:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME -- MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:18:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:18:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE BEEN KICKING 17 DOWN THE ROAD.
09:18:41AM IF WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS, I WANT RECOMMENDATIONS TO
09:18:47AM MOVE THIS FORWARD BEFORE THE FIRST OF THE YEAR WITH THE
09:18:50AM COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
09:18:51AM SO MR. SHELBY.
09:18:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL WAIT FOR THE CHAIR TO RECOGNIZE ME.
09:18:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONTINUED ONE WEEK TO THE 27th.
09:18:59AM IT IS ON THE AGENDA UNTIL THE 27th.
09:19:02AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT SOME RESOLVE ON THE 27th FOR THAT
09:19:05AM ITEM.
09:19:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:19:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW IT IS A WORKSHOP.
09:19:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL GUDES, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A
09:19:16AM RECOMMENDATION -- I CAN HOLDS THIS TO NEW BUSINESS.
09:19:19AM THE ORDER OF THE WORKSHOP, A LAND DEVELOPMENT AND A LOT OF
09:19:23AM CONTINUANCES.
09:19:23AM I ASK THAT THEY BE GROUPED TOGETHER AT THE START OF THE
09:19:27AM MEETING INCLUDING THIS MOTION TO TAKE CARE OF THEM EARLY AND
09:19:31AM GROUPED TOGETHER AS LAND DEVELOPMENT ITEMS AND TAKEN EARLY
09:19:34AM IN THE WORKSHOPS.
09:19:35AM BECAUSE THEY HAVE MAJOR SIGNIFICANCE.
09:19:39AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
09:19:41AM MR. DRUMGO IS COMING UP.
09:19:44AM >>JOHN BENNETT: HE SAID HE IS READY.
09:19:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL BE RIGHT SIDE.
09:19:48AM THANK YOU.
09:19:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:19:52AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:19:54AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:19:55AM ITEM 17 CONTINUED UNTIL FEBRUARY 23.
09:19:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:20:00AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:20:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:20:03AM AYE.
09:20:04AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19 CONTINUED THROUGH FEBRUARY 23.
09:20:08AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:20:10AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMANkt.
09:20:13AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:20:14AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20 IS TO THE 27th.
09:20:20AM MOVED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:20:21AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:20:23AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:20:25AM OPPOSED.
09:20:25AM >>JOHN BENNETT: ITEM 21 HAS A MEMORANDUM FROM
09:20:33AM DIRECTOR BHIDE.
09:20:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIR, I AM GOOD WITH THAT.
09:20:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD WITH THE MEMO FROM MR. BHIDE.
09:20:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
09:20:45AM I MAY TALK ABOUT IT IN THE FUTURE.
09:20:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL OKAY WITH THE MEMO BY
09:20:52AM MR. BHIDE.
09:20:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: INSTEAD OF STRIKE IT, A MOTION TO RECEIVE
09:20:59AM AND FILE.
09:21:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
09:21:02AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:21:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:21:04AM THANK YOU, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22.
09:21:06AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:21:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, WITH 22, I ASK THAT SOMEBODY
09:21:12AM BE PRESENT BUT ALSO ITEM 35 IF YOU NOTICE IS $100,000 ITEM
09:21:20AM TO A FIRM THAT IS OUT OF TOWN BUT TO STUDY THE -- THE TRASH
09:21:29AM FREE TAMPA BAY CASE STUDY.
09:21:31AM MY QUESTION WHY DO WE HAVE TO PAY SOMEBODY $100,000 TO STUDY
09:21:38AM OUR TRASH ISSUE THAT IS OUT OF TOWN.
09:21:39AM IF WE CAN HAVE 35 PULLED AND ADDED TO THE NUMBER 22
09:21:44AM DISCUSSION SINCE IT ALL FITS INTO THE LITTERING.
09:21:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SECOND THAT.
09:21:48AM BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION, SO, YES.
09:21:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:21:54AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:21:57AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:21:58AM AYE.
09:21:58AM ITEM 23, MR. MIRANDA.
09:22:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 23?
09:22:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
09:22:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH, YES.
09:22:07AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT CAME FROM THE CLERK.
09:22:09AM SO I TONIGHT KNOW IF IT IS A AND FILE OR A DISCUSSION.
09:22:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:22:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE TONIGHT HAVE TO DO IT TODAY BUT
09:22:20AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ASKED FOR THIS.
09:22:22AM AND SEVERAL OF US WERE ON THE BOARD, BUT I AM JUST CURIOUS
09:22:26AM AS HE REVIEWS IT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE WHAT HIS
09:22:30AM CONCLUSIONS ARE.
09:22:31AM IF HE GAINED ANY INSIGHTS.
09:22:33AM WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT ON THE CHARTER DAY AND I WILL BE
09:22:37AM CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHTS.
09:22:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: --
09:22:40AM [INAUDIBLE]
09:22:41AM -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS COPACETIC.
09:22:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: UNLESS HE IS READY TODAY, WE CAN RECEIVE AND
09:22:49AM FILE.
09:22:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE DOCUMENTS AS WELL TO DISTRIBUTE TO
09:22:52AM THE COUNCIL.
09:22:53AM I CAN DO IT TODAY OR ANOTHER DAY.
09:22:55AM BUT THE CLERK HAS PREPARED THEM AS WELL.
09:22:56AM SO I ASK THAT YOU KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA.
09:22:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS WAS FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, AS I
09:23:02AM RECALL.
09:23:03AM I HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT POINT YET.
09:23:07AM I DON'T MIND THIS BEING HELD FOR A WEEK TO ALL BE UP TO DATE
09:23:12AM ON IT AND DISCUSS -- WHOEVER THE MEMBERS WERE, 10 OR 12,
09:23:16AM WEREN'T THEY?
09:23:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAD NINE I THINK.
09:23:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:23:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: A CITY ATTORNEY MORE THAN A YEAR AGO GAVE ME
09:23:29AM AUDIO RECORDINGS.
09:23:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T NEED THE AUDIO.
09:23:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE TRANSCRIPT IS FINE.
09:23:34AM WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
09:23:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOLD IT FOR --
09:23:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OCTOBER 23.
09:23:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NEXT WEEK IS THE WORKSHOP MEETING AND THE
09:23:46AM TUESDAY AFTER THAT IS THE CHARTER WORKSHOP.
09:23:48AM I WILL ASK THAT YOU KEEP THAT ON THE AGENDA IF YOU CAN.
09:23:50AM IF HAS TO BE CONTINUED, THAT WILL BE FINE AND TAKEN UP VERY
09:23:55AM QUICKLY AT THE ENDS.
09:23:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:23:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FOR MY UNDERSTANDING PRESENTING THE MINUTES
09:24:01AM WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE.
09:24:02AM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I GOT A GIANT BINDER.
09:24:06AM YES, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
09:24:09AM WE ARE GETTING IT.
09:24:10AM FOR MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. SHELBY HAS SOMETHING TO ADD TO
09:24:14AM IT.
09:24:14AM ALL WE WILL BE DOING IS ACCEPTING WHAT HE HAS TO GIVE AND
09:24:17AM MOVE ON, RIGHT.
09:24:18AM OKAY.
09:24:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:24:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF YOU HAVE THAT AUDIO, I WOULD LIKE TO
09:24:27AM HAVE IT.
09:24:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY FOR MY AIDE TO GIVE HIM.
09:24:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MP3.
09:24:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: THUMB DRIVE.
09:24:37AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF THE CLERK MADE IT.
09:24:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I MIGHT HAVE A COPY AS WELL.
09:24:41AM I WILL GIVE IT TO YOU.
09:24:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WILL BE GREAT.
09:24:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT IT RUNS A LONG TIME.
09:24:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S OKAY.
09:24:49AM WE HAVE THE AUDIO.
09:24:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:24:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24, COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S.
09:24:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT ONE I WAS PROPOSING CONTINUING AND YOU
09:25:03AM SAID YOU WANTED TO LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA.
09:25:05AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT IS WHERE, CHAIRMAN, I WAS GOING TO TALK
09:25:10AM OF ALL FOUR OF THESE TOGETHER.
09:25:12AM TALK 25 AND 27 TOGETHER.
09:25:14AM AND RIGHT NEXT TO THAT, 24 AND 26.
09:25:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S GO TO 28, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:25:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:25:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:25:26AM THAT CLEARS UP EVERYTHING TO THE CONSENT.
09:25:29AM >> MOVE THE AGENDA.
09:25:37AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:25:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FOR 1:30 WHEN WE WILL OPEN ALL OF THOSE
09:25:43AM THINGS.
09:25:44AM >>JOHN BENNETT: MR. CHAIR, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
09:25:46AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO'S QUESTION ABOUT 32 AND 35.
09:25:50AM ADMINISTRATOR WYNN WILL BE HERE.
09:25:53AM AS FAR AS THE SOLID WASTE GO, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR ROGERO OR
09:26:00AM I NEED DIRECTOR LARRY -- TO JOIN HER.
09:26:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
09:26:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:26:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: SEVERAL HEARINGS IN THE DAY THAT WILL HAVE A
09:26:14AM LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:26:15AM 89 IS ONE OF THEM.
09:26:16AM SHOULD QUESTION TRY TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AND PARTICIPANTS SOME
09:26:21AM EXPECTATION.
09:26:21AM ONE OF THEM -- 84 MAY HAVE A LOT AND ONE THAT HAS TO DO WITH
09:26:27AM HYDE PARK HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
09:26:29AM ANYWAY TO GIVE GUIDANCE -- THAT IS 67.
09:26:33AM 67, 84 AND 89.
09:26:37AM ANY GUIDANCE TO PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WHEN WE WILL BRING THOSE
09:26:40AM BACK?
09:26:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH COUNCIL WANTS TO TALK OF
09:26:45AM EACH ITEM BEFOREHAND.
09:26:47AM I DON'T THINK WE CAN GIVE ANY TIME CERTAIN.
09:26:51AM AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH TIME THE COUNCIL WANTS TO TALK
09:26:59AM OF THE ITEMS BEFORE THEM.
09:27:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: NOT NOW.
09:27:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I I AGREE BY -- IF WE GO THROUGH THE
09:27:08AM AGENDA BY 11:30 OR 12, WE WILL HAVE AN EXPECTATION THEN.
09:27:13AM I AGREE WITH YOU.
09:27:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE THE ADDENDUM TO THE
09:27:17AM AGENDA.
09:27:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE
09:27:22AM AGENDA.
09:27:23AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:27:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:27:29AM THANK YOU.
09:27:30AM WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS AND CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES RIGHT NOW.
09:27:36AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:27:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:27:43AM GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:28:02AM THIS MORNING WE HAVE THE DISTINGUISHED PLEASURE OF
09:28:04AM RECOGNIZING, AGAIN, ONE OF OUR ATU EMPLOYEES.
09:28:09AM WE HAVE AMEN AT THAT OWENS WHO WORKS IN THE ARCHITECTURAL
09:28:13AM AND REVIEW HISTORIC PRESERVATION DIVISION.
09:28:16AM AND READING SOME OF THE THINGS HE THINKS THAT THEY ARE
09:28:19AM SAYING ABOUT HIM, YOU WILL FIND IT VERY INTERESTING.
09:28:21AM I WILL LET SIMON, OUR ATU PRESIDENT TALK.HIM.
09:28:26AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:28:28AM GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:28:30AM STEVE SIMON, PRESIDENT OF ATU LOCAL 1464, AND I AM HAPPY TO
09:28:36AM BE HERE THIS MORNING TO INTRODUCE .
09:28:48AM [APPLAUSE]
09:28:53AM >> AMEN AT THAT IS A SHOW UP AND GET IT DONE TEAM MEMBER.
09:28:56AM AS A SPECIALIST 3 TO OBTAINING CERTIFICATION FROM THE
09:29:00AM INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL TO SERVE AS THE CITY'S HISTORIC
09:29:04AM PRESERVATION CERTIFIED CODE OFFICER -- ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
09:29:08AM MOST RECENT AS A HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, SHE
09:29:15AM EXCELS IN HER PROFESSIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES OF MAINTAINING A
09:29:19AM POSITIVE ATTITUDE.
09:29:20AM AMINTA SUPPORTS THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE BARRIO LATINO
09:29:26AM COMMISSION, THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AND THE
09:29:29AM HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
09:29:31AM HER EFFORTS HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL
09:29:36AM CUSTOMERS.
09:29:36AM SHE IS THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE LATEST VERSION OF THE
09:29:39AM DESIGNATED LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARKS DISTRICTS AND MULTIPLE
09:29:44AM PROPERTIES CATALOGING HISTORIES IN A VISUAL, MEANINGFUL
09:29:48AM DOCUMENTATION THAT WILL SERVE AS A RESOURCE FOR GENERATIONS
09:29:51AM TO COME TO UNDERSTAND TAMPA'S PAST.
09:29:53AM AMEN AT THAT OWENS IS A DEDICATED PASSIONATE EMPLOYEE TO
09:30:00AM ASSIST A TEAM MEMBER WITH A COMPLICATED PROJECT AND TO HELP
09:30:04AM A CLIENT RESOLVE A PROBLEM.
09:30:05AM OVER TWO DECADES OF SERVICE TO THE ARCHITECTURAL VERY VIEW
09:30:09AM AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
09:30:11AM AMINTA EXEMPLIFIES THE IMPACT THAT ONE PERSON CAN MAKE OF
09:30:17AM TRANSFERRING TAMPA'S TOMORROW WHILE PRESERVING THE
09:30:20AM ACHIEVEMENTS OF ITS PAST.
09:30:21AM WE ATU LOCAL 1464 WOULD LIKE PRESENT YOU WITH A TOKEN OF OUR
09:30:31AM APPRECIATION OF WHAT YOU TO DO KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:30:33AM RUNNING, A $100 GIFT CARD.
09:30:36AM >> THANK YOU.
09:30:37AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:30:39AM >> YES, MA'AM.
09:30:39AM [APPLAUSE]
09:30:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, THIS MORNING THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
09:30:49AM COMMENDATION PRESENTED TO AMINTA OWENS, ATU LOCAL 1464
09:30:55AM EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH TO EXEMPLIFY THE TYPE OF EMPLOYEE
09:30:58AM THAT EVERYONE ADMIRES AND RESPECTS.
09:31:02AM YOU ARE A GREAT ASSET TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:31:04AM PRESENTED TODAY THE 19th DAY OF OCTOBER, 2022.
09:31:07AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:31:08AM THANK YOU, SIR.
09:31:09AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING?
09:31:17AM >>ABBYE FEELY: I WOULD JUST SAY -- ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR
09:31:21AM OF PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT I HAVE A LARGE TEAM CLOSE TO
09:31:25AM 200 AND GROWING.
09:31:26AM I WANT TO SAY THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL PERSON BRINGS TO THE
09:31:30AM TABLE THEIR OWN UNIQUE SKILLS AND TALENTS AND AMINTA, SHE
09:31:36AM SHOWS UP EVERY DAY TO GET IT DONE WEARING A SMILE NO MATTER
09:31:40AM WHERE YOU SEE HER.
09:31:41AM WHAT SHE HAS DONE IN OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND
09:31:45AM ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW TEAM IS A COMMITMENT TO HER TO THE
09:31:52AM CITY.
09:31:52AM AND WE ARE SO HAPPY TO HAVE HER HAVE THAT RECOGNITION.
09:31:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK WE HAVE SOME GOODIES TODAY.
09:31:59AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:32:02AM DONNA McBRIDE FROM THE STRAZ CENTER.
09:32:06AM MISS OWEN -- SORRY -- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND
09:32:11AM PARTICULARLY FOR PRESERVING OUR HISTORY.
09:32:13AM IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WHERE WE WERE AND WHERE WE
09:32:17AM ARE GOING.
09:32:17AM THANK YOU AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO ENJOY A SHOW.
09:32:21AM >> THANK YOU.
09:32:22AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:32:23AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:32:26AM GRACE GONZALEZ REPRESENTING THE GONZMART FAMILY AND 1905
09:32:32AM FAMILY RESTAURANTS.
09:32:33AM THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:32:35AM ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY PROVIDE YOU WITH A GIFT
09:32:41AM CARD.
09:32:41AM A UNIVERSAL GIVE CARD TO ANY RESTAURANTS, COLUMBIA
09:32:48AM RESTAURANT, ANY ONE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE.
09:32:53AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:32:54AM [APPLAUSE]
09:33:01AM GOOD MORNING.
09:33:01AM >> I HAVE KNOWN AMINTA FOR A LONG TIME.
09:33:05AM STEVE MICHELINI, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT SHE GETS THE JOB
09:33:10AM DONE, WHETHER IN THE FIELD SHE IS ALWAYS THERE TO ASSIST.
09:33:13AM THAT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.
09:33:15AM SOMEONE YOU CAN REALLY COUNT ON, ESPECIALLY LATE IN THE DAY
09:33:18AM WHEN YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR SOME PIECE OF PROPERTY YOU NEED
09:33:21AM TO GET RESOLVED RIGHT AWAY.
09:33:23AM SHE AND HER -- AND THE REST OF THE STAFF IS THERE TO HELP.
09:33:26AM SHE IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.
09:33:29AM ON BEHALF OF BELLA BRAVO RESTAURANT GROUP, PROVIDE YOU WITH
09:33:34AM GIFT CERTIFICATE TO ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE.
09:33:36AM ON BEHALF OF THE YMCA, GO AND ENJOY YOURSELF AT THE Y WITH A
09:33:44AM COMPLIMENTARY MEMBERSHIP.
09:33:46AM ON BEHALF OF THE YUMMY HOUSE BISTRO -- THEY DENNIS AND RON
09:33:52AM MAY TRY TO GET -- THEY MAY TRY TO TALK YOU OUT OF THIS ONE.
09:33:56AM YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, LUNCH AND DINNER.
09:33:59AM CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP AND GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR BREAKFAST,
09:34:07AM LUNCH AND DINNER AT OLD HYDE PARK.
09:34:09AM ENJOY YOURSELF FOR DINNER.
09:34:11AM HERE ARE THOSE GIFT CERTIFICATES TO GO ALONG WITH THAT.
09:34:15AM >> THANK YOU.
09:34:18AM DON'T LET THEM TALK YOU OUT OF THIS STUFF.
09:34:20AM >> YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THAT.
09:34:21AM >> CONGRATULATIONS.
09:34:21AM [APPLAUSE]
09:34:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE GAME BALL.
09:34:29AM THE GAME BALL.
09:34:30AM WE THANKS BRINGING THAT TO OUR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE YOU ARE
09:34:36AM SPECIAL LIKE OUR FIRE, POLICE.
09:34:39AM >> BRIAN FORD, TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
09:34:42AM AS COUNCILMAN REFERENCED, ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND
09:34:46AM OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION.
09:34:48AM WE HAVE A TRADITION AT ONE BUC.
09:34:50AM WHENEVER ANYBODY GOES OVER AND ABOVE THEY GET A GAME BALL.
09:34:54AM BASED ON YOUR STORY, WE HAVE A LITTLE GAME BALL FOR YOU.
09:34:57AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:34:58AM THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
09:35:01AM [APPLAUSE]
09:35:05AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:35:06AM >> I AM HUMBLED AND OVERWHELMED.
09:35:12AM THIS IS QUITE UNEXPECTED AND APPRECIATED.
09:35:14AM I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY WITH
09:35:19AM THE CITY TO GROW.
09:35:23AM THANK YOU ALL.
09:35:23AM ESPECIALLY MY TEAM.
09:35:24AM THEY ARE THE BEST.
09:35:25AM APPRECIATE IT.
09:35:26AM MY SISTER WHO HAPPENS TO BE HERE ALSO.
09:35:28AM THANK YOU
09:35:32AM [APPLAUSE]
09:35:40AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE BUCCANEERS HAVE OUTDONE THEMSELVES.
09:35:43AM I DIDN'T KNOW THE ATU EMBLEM ON THE BALL.
09:35:48AM BRIAN GLAZER.
09:35:51AM >> I AM SORRY, COUNCILMAN, ONE OTHER THING.
09:35:55AM AMINTA, I HAVE A LETTER FROM THE MAYOR.
09:36:00AM CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING SELECTED AS THE ATU EMPLOYEE
09:36:05AM OF THE MONTH FOR PROFESSIONALISM, WORK ETHICS AND GOING
09:36:09AM ABOVE AND BEYOND AS A HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
09:36:11AM YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED A FIRM COMMITMENT AND HIGH STANDARDS
09:36:14AM FROM YOUR HIRE DATE IN 2000 AS AN OFFICE SUPPORT SPECIALIST
09:36:18AM 3.
09:36:19AM AND YOU SOON THEREAFTER BECAME A MEMBER OF THE ARCHITECTURAL
09:36:23AM REVIEW AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION DIVISION WHERE YOUR
09:36:25AM DEDICATION HAVE ENSURED TAMPA'S UNIQUE HISTORIES IS
09:36:29AM SAFEGUARDED FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
09:36:30AM YOUR SPORTS INCLUDING SUPPORTING THE BARRIO LATINO,
09:36:35AM ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND
09:36:39AM CHARGED WITH THE DOCUMENTATION OF THE DIVISIONS LOCAL
09:36:41AM HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICTS AND YOUR EFFORTS WILL VISUALLY
09:36:47AM CONTACT OR CATALOG OUR CITY'S PAST.
09:36:50AM YOU HAVE EARNED THE RESPECT OF YOUR SUPERIORS, PEERS AND
09:36:56AM COMMUNITY AND WELL KNOWN AS SOMEONE DEDICATED, PASSIONATE
09:36:59AM AND RESULT ORIENTED.
09:37:01AM INTEGRAL PART OF PROVIDING SERVICE, AND YOUR POSITIVE
09:37:06AM ATTITUDE MAKE YOU HIGHLY DESERVING OF THE RECOGNITION.
09:37:09AM YOU ARE AN ASSET OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE DEVELOPMENT AND
09:37:12AM GROWTH OF THE DEPARTMENT AND OUR COMMUNITY.
09:37:15AM YOU ARE ADMIRED, WELL-RESPECTED AND SET A SHINING EXAMPLE TO
09:37:20AM TOLE.
09:37:21AM EMPLOYEES LIKE YOU AMINTA MAKE ME PROUD TO SERVE AS MAYOR.
09:37:25AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND SERVICE.
09:37:27AM SINCERELY, JANE CASTOR.
09:37:30AM [APPLAUSE]
09:37:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:37:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COUNCILMEMBERS LIKE TO MAKE --
09:37:38AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:37:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: M AND M, GO FIRST.
09:37:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MANISCALCO FIRST.
09:37:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAID IT THE WORDS OF THE MAYOR.
09:37:52AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
09:37:53AM YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FAMILY AND APPRECIATE
09:37:55AM HARD WORK AND DISEASE OCCASION.
09:37:58AM MENTIONED HISTORIC PRESERVATION, MY EARS PERKED UP AND
09:38:03AM APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO.
09:38:04AM PROTECTING THE CITY, THE HISTORY OF THE CITY, THE STORY OF
09:38:08AM THE CITY.
09:38:08AM PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF IT WHAT YOU AND YOUR
09:38:12AM OFFICE AND YOUR TEAM MEMBERS DO.
09:38:13AM APPRECIATE IT.
09:38:14AM A VERY, VERY WELL DESERVED HONOR.
09:38:16AM >> THANK YOU.
09:38:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MIRANDA.
09:38:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOLLOWING WHAT MR. MANISCALCO
09:38:21AM SAID.
09:38:22AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:38:23AM AS WE HEARD ALL THE DUTIES THAT YOU HAVE.
09:38:25AM YOU DO NOT JUST ONE THING BUT VARIOUS THINGS.
09:38:29AM MODEL OF 1464 IS WE KEEP TAMPA MOVING.
09:38:33AM I HOPE IT DOESN'T GO TOO FAR.
09:38:36AM YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
09:38:37AM AND IT IS UNBELIEVABLE THING.
09:38:39AM THE THINGS THAT YOU GUY DO IN THAT LOCAL ARE NOT TALKED
09:38:43AM ABOUT TOO OFTEN, BUT WITHOUT IT, WE WOULDN'T BE THE CITY
09:38:46AM THAT YOU ARE.
09:38:47AM ALL OF YOU IN 1464.
09:38:50AM CONGRATULATIONS NOT ONLY TO YOU BUT YOUR STAFF AND
09:38:53AM EVERYTHING THAT KEEPS YOU GOING IN THE DIRECTION YOU ARE
09:38:55AM DOING.
09:38:56AM BUENO SUARTE.
09:39:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:39:05AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO HONOR OUR ATU EMPLOYEES.
09:39:09AM OUR GOOD EXAMPLE WHAT YOU DO EVERY DAY ON CORE CITY
09:39:12AM ASSIGNMENTS.
09:39:13AM AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO AND I HOPE THIS DAY IS
09:39:16AM SPECIAL FOR YOU.
09:39:16AM >> YES, VERY MUCH SO.
09:39:18AM THANK YOU.
09:39:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:39:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:39:23AM I WANT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT I AM SUPER IMPRESSED THAT
09:39:26AM YOU STARTED JUST IN ONE SPOT AND YOU WORKED REALLY HARD TO
09:39:31AM GET THROUGH.
09:39:33AM I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT IS THE GROWTH THAT ANY EMPLOYEE
09:39:36AM CAN HAVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:39:38AM AND I THINK YOU EMPT FLY THAT AND FOR PEOPLE WHO JOIN THE
09:39:43AM CITY THAT SAYS I'M HERE AND I CAN ALWAYS KEEP GROWING AND I
09:39:46AM THINK THAT IS INCREDIBLY IMPRESSIVE.
09:39:48AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:39:49AM AND THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO GROW WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:39:52AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
09:39:53AM >> THANK YOU.
09:39:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND YOU.
09:39:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:39:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS FOR ANYBODY WATCHING.
09:40:01AM WHEN PEOPLE ARE CAN LOOKING TO VISIT A CITY FOR TOURISM OR
09:40:05AM INVEST IN A CITY OR RELOCATE IN THE CITY, THEY LOOK -- YEAH,
09:40:09AM MOSTLY WHAT THEY CARE.IS THE HISTORY AND CULTURE OF A
09:40:12AM COMMUNITY WHICH IS MEANS TIMES DEFINED IN PART BY THE -- BY
09:40:15AM THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND ARCHITECTURE.
09:40:18AM I AM EMBARRASSED I DIDN'T KNOW YOU AND I WANT TO GET TO KNOW
09:40:24AM YOU.
09:40:24AM YOU WORK IN AN AREA THAT I LOVE.
09:40:26AM WE NEED TO PROTECT AND TELL THE STORIES AND MAKE SURE ALL
09:40:29AM THE NEW FOLKS KNOW ABOUT TAMPA'S RICH HISTORY AND CULTURE,
09:40:33AM THANK YOU.
09:40:34AM >> THANK YOU.
09:40:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF THE CITY OF
09:40:39AM TAMPA FAMILY.
09:40:39AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DO.
09:40:42AM THANK YOU FOR KEEPING OUR RICH AND VIBRANT CITY ALIVE.
09:40:47AM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
09:40:48AM [APPLAUSE]
09:40:54AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:40:55AM [APPLAUSE]
09:40:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:41:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
09:41:01AM MR. CHAIRMAN, MY GREAT PLEASURE TO DO THE TAMPA POLICE
09:41:23AM OFFICER OF THE MONTH COMMENDATION TO CORPORAL MONTE.
09:41:28AM THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO EVERY SINGLE MONTH IN TAMPA CITY
09:41:32AM COUNCIL AND IT REFLECTS THE VALUES OF THE CONSTITUENTS AND
09:41:37AM THE COMMUNITIES WE SERVE.
09:41:37AM WE SERVE IN A CITY, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT IS VERY PRO FIRST
09:41:42AM RESPONDER AND THAT INCLUDES PRO POLICE OFFICER.
09:41:44AM GOOD TO SEE YOU -- PRO POLICE OFFICER.
09:41:46AM WE -- WE SALUTE THE WORK OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE
09:41:51AM PROTECTORS HERE IN OUR CITY OF TAMPA AND WHO DO SO MUCH IN
09:41:55AM RUNNING INTO SITUATIONS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE
09:41:59AM STARTING WITH MYSELF OF RUN AWAY FROM.
09:42:02AM WE SUPPORT THAT 110%.
09:42:04AM DEPUTY CHIEF JOHNSON WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOME WORDS.
09:42:07AM GO AHEAD.
09:42:08AM >> HOW ARE YOU DOING.
09:42:09AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:42:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
09:42:12AM >> POLICE WORK COVERS MANY ASPECTS FROM BEING A CRIME
09:42:15AM FIGHTER TO BEING A GUARDIAN, AND SOMEBODY WITH THE PASSION
09:42:20AM FOR THE COMMUNITY.
09:42:21AM I AM GOING TO READ SOME STUFF HERE TODAY THAT SHE EMBODIED
09:42:25AM ALL OF IT AND SHE GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND AND HAS A BIG HEART
09:42:29AM REALLY FOR THE COMMUNITY AND OUR JUVENILES.
09:42:34AM OFFICER MONTE IS COMMITTED TO REDUCING CRIME IN WORK IN
09:42:43AM DISTRICT 2.
09:42:43AM SHE BELIEVES LEADING FROM THE FRONT AS A SUPERVISOR.
09:42:48AM THAT PHILOSOPHY WAS EXEMPLIFIED IN A RECENT CARJACKING AND
09:42:52AM KIDNAPPING CASE.
09:42:52AM A WANTED SUSPECT WENT ON WHAT CAN ONLY BE DESCRIBED AS A
09:42:56AM CRIME SPREE.
09:42:57AM AFTER HOLDING A FIREARM TO A VICTIM'S HEAD AND DEMANDING HER
09:43:00AM CAR, THE SUSPECT WENT TO A SECOND LOCATION WHERE HE KICKED
09:43:03AM IN THE DOOR OF A RESIDENCE AND KIDNAPPED A DIFFERENT VICTIM
09:43:07AM WHO LATER ESCAPED.
09:43:09AM AT A THIRD LOCATION, HE STOLE A LARGE BOX TRUCK FROM A
09:43:18AM PERSON OUT MAKING DELIVERIES.
09:43:20AM THE SERIES OF EVENTS IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS WHERE
09:43:25AM CORPORAL MONTE WAS LISTENING TO RADIO AND WHAT SHE SAW WAS
09:43:32AM THE STOLEN BOX TRUCK.
09:43:34AM COORDINATED WITH AIR SERVICE ANDED SQUAD TO DISCREETLY GET
09:43:38AM BEHIND THE DRIVER.
09:43:39AM AS THE VEHICLE LEFT JURISDICTION, CORPORAL MONTE CONTINUED
09:43:46AM TO LOOK AT THE DRIVE I-75 TO GAINESVILLE.
09:43:51AM AFTER A LENGTHY PURSUIT, THE DEFENDER WAS ULTIMATELY STOPPED
09:43:55AM AND ARRESTED.
09:43:56AM CORPORAL MONTE WAS ON THE SCENE ASSISTING WITH THE SEARCH
09:44:01AM WARRANT.
09:44:02AM HER EFFORTS LED WITH THE DEFENDANT BEING CHARGED WITH
09:44:05AM NUMEROUS FELONIES ACROSS THE STATE.
09:44:08AM HER GREAT WORK DOESN'T STOP.
09:44:09AM THIS PAST MONTH, HER SQUAD OBTAINED PROBABLE CAUSE FOR
09:44:13AM ANOTHER ARMED CARJACKING CASE BY SHOWING A PHOTO ARRAY.
09:44:19AM THEY RECOVERED A CRUCIAL VIDEO ON A KIDNAPPING AND CHILD
09:44:24AM ABUSE INVESTIGATION AND THEY ASSISTED ON A RESIDENTIAL
09:44:27AM SEARCH WARRANT OF ANIMAL CRUELTY.
09:44:29AM THEIR EFFORTS LED TO THE ARREST IN EACH OF THESE CASES.
09:44:35AM LASTLY, CORPORAL MONTE IS A POLICE OFFICER.
09:44:40AM THIS SUMMER COORDINATED MULTIPLE FIELD DAY AT VARIOUS PARKS
09:44:45AM THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND ASSISTED WITH THE SUMMER STAY AND
09:44:49AM PLAY PROGRAM.
09:44:49AM THIS PROGRAM GAVE OVER 200 TAMPA JUVENILES AN OPPORTUNITY TO
09:44:54AM ENGAGE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PARTICIPATE IN BASKETBALL,
09:44:59AM KICKBALL, DODGEBALL, AND VARIOUS OTHER HEALTHY ACTIVITIES.
09:45:04AM SHE HAS DOUBLE THE PETITION IN THE SHOP WITH A COP PROGRAM.
09:45:09AM ONE THING ABOUT SHOP WITH THE COP PROGRAM, WE HAD IT AT, I
09:45:13AM THINK, WESTSHORE MALL.
09:45:15AM SOME OF THE KIDS DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR IT, BUT THEY SHOWED UP.
09:45:18AM SHE MADE SURE THAT THOSE KIDS WERE TAKEN CARE OF AT THE SPUR
09:45:23AM OF THE MOMENT.
09:45:24AM AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAW THAT AS A CHIEF, IT JUST TOUCHED
09:45:28AM MY HEART.
09:45:29AM IT REALLY MADE THOSE KIDS' DAY.
09:45:32AM THE SHOP WITH THE COP PROGRAM PROVIDED BACK-TO-SCHOOL
09:45:38AM CLOTHING FOR APPROXIMATELY 39 CHILDREN AND WORKED TO FORM
09:45:42AM TWO BOWLERS FOR THE BOWL FOR KIDS CHALLENGE.
09:45:47AM HER PASSION FOR THE YOUTH AND DEDICATING TO CREATING AND
09:45:51AM IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS WHY WE HAVE SELECTED
09:45:55AM CORPORAL JAMIE LYNN MONTEAS OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
09:45:55AM [APPLAUSE]
09:46:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: CORPORAL, ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL CITY AND
09:46:12AM CITY COUNCIL, OUR GREAT PLEASURE TO GIVE YOU THIS TAMPA CITY
09:46:16AM COUNCIL COMMENDATION FOR ALL THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE AND
09:46:18AM CONTINUE TO DO AND ALL THE SACRIFICES YOU TAKE FOR YOU AND
09:46:22AM YOUR FAMILY.
09:46:22AM GOD BLESS YOU.
09:46:23AM THANK YOU.
09:46:24AM [APPLAUSE]
09:46:30AM AND BEFORE YOU SPEAK, GIFTS FROM THE COMMUNITY WHICH IS A
09:46:33AM GOOD SYMBOL OF THE SUPPORT THAT YOU HAVE.
09:46:35AM >> HEY, CORPORAL, BRANDON, VICE PRESIDENT OF TAMPA PBA.
09:46:39AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THIS MORNING.
09:46:41AM TO PRESENT THIS PLAQUE TO CORPORAL MONTEFOR DOING AN
09:46:44AM EXCELLENT JOB AS ALWAYS.
09:46:46AM >> COUNCILMEMBERS, CORPORAL MONTE, I CAN'T EXPRESS ENOUGH
09:47:04AM THANKS FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE IT
09:47:07AM SAFER EVERY TE.
09:47:08AM AND YOUR DETERMINATION TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.
09:47:10AM YOU PUT YOUR LIFE ON THE LINE EVERY DAY.
09:47:13AM AND WE ARE GRATEFUL, EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE AS
09:47:17AM WE TRY TO RAISE OUR CHILDREN AND COMMUNITY AND HAVE A GOOD
09:47:24AM QUALITY OF LIFE.
09:47:24AM WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU.
09:47:26AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:47:28AM THE STRAZ CENTER WOULD LIKE YOU TO RELAX AND ENJOY A SHOW.
09:47:32AM >> THANK YOU.
09:47:33AM [APPLAUSE]
09:47:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, CORPORAL, BOB TURNER WITH THE
09:47:39AM MUSTANG CLUB OF TAMPA.
09:47:41AM GRACE THOMAS FROM BILL CURRIE FORD AND A FEW GOODIES FOR
09:47:46AM YOU.
09:47:46AM FOR YOUR CURRENT VEHICLE, FREE OIL CHANGE AT BILL CURRIE
09:47:53AM FORD.
09:47:54AM FOR YOUR NEXT VEHICLE, $500 COUPON FOR THE NEXT VEHICLE AT
09:47:58AM BILL CURRIE FORD.
09:47:59AM TO HELP YOU SELECT THAT, A FREE WEEKEND WITH A CAR OF YOUR
09:48:06AM CHOICE.
09:48:07AM I WILL GO WITH A FULL-SIZED BRONCO.
09:48:09AM GET IT NICE AND DIRTY -- AND FINALLY, FROM THE MUSTANG CLUB
09:48:16AM OF TAMPA, YOUR VERY OWN MUSTANG PATROL CAR.
09:48:20AM CELEBRATING YOUR RECOGNITION OF OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
09:48:24AM >> THANK YOU.
09:48:25AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:48:26AM [APPLAUSE]
09:48:36AM >> THANK YOU.
09:48:44AM >> CORPORAL MONTE, THE 1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS
09:48:49AM REPRESENTING THE GONZMART FAMILY.
09:48:51AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND ALL YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF
09:48:54AM TAMPA.
09:48:54AM A $100 GIFT STARRED TO THE 1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS ANY
09:48:59AM COLUMBIA RESTAURANT LOCATION IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
09:49:02AM CHA-CHA COCONUTS IN SARASOTA OR GOODY GOODY IN HYDE PARK.
09:49:08AM >> THANK YOU.
09:49:09AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:49:10AM [APPLAUSE]
09:49:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:49:16AM MIKE WITH STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
09:49:20AM THANK YOU FOR A JOB WELL-DONE.
09:49:22AM WHAT YOU ARE DOING FOR OUR YOUTH IS PRICELESS AND AS A
09:49:25AM COMMUNITY WE CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH.
09:49:28AM BEHALF STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE A GIFT CARD FOR A RESTAURANT
09:49:35AM OF YOUR CHOICE AND A LIMOUSINE RIDE.
09:49:39AM THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS.
09:49:42AM >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
09:49:43AM >> I ALSO WANT -- WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:49:47AM PETE BREVY IS MY OTHER HALF AND HE COULDN'T BE HERE AND HE
09:49:51AM ASKED ME SINCE JAMIE IS MY BEST FRIEND TO PRESENT THESE.
09:49:55AM AND FOUR COMPLIMENTARY TICKETS TO BUSCH GARDENS.
09:50:00AM >> THANK YOU.
09:50:00AM [APPLAUSE]
09:50:06AM >> GOOD MORNING, MARY LOU BAILEY.
09:50:08AM >> AND MARK WITH ZOO TAMPA.
09:50:10AM >> I'M HERE ON BEHALF THE VOLUNTEERS OF THE BOARD AT ZOO AT
09:50:14AM THAT POINT.
09:50:14AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT.
09:50:16AM AND WE VALUE THE COMMUNITY AND CONTRIBUTION AND THANK YOU
09:50:21AM FOR YOUR FAMILY FOR SHARING US WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND AN
09:50:25AM ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FOR ZOO TAMPA.
09:50:27AM ENJOY WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY.
09:50:30AM GO TO CREATURES OF THE NIGHT BECAUSE IT IS HALLOWEEN.
09:50:33AM IT IS A LOT OF FUN.
09:50:34AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TREMENDOUS SERVICE AND TREMENDOUS HEART.
09:50:37AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:50:38AM >> YOU ALREADY DEAL WITH A LOT OF CREATURES OF THE NIGHT IN
09:50:41AM YOUR JOB.
09:50:42AM A LITTLE LESS STRESSFUL AND MORE FUN.
09:50:44AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:50:45AM >> THANK YOU AGAIN.
09:50:45AM [APPLAUSE]
09:50:54AM >> COUNCIL, CHIEF.
09:50:56AM AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE
09:51:01AM ORGANIZATION, WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICE,
09:51:05AM YOUR FAMILY'S SACRIFICE AND ALL YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.
09:51:08AM WE HAVE A TRADITIONAL GAME BALL AND YOUR CREDENTIALS
09:51:12AM DEFINITELY WARRANT THIS.
09:51:14AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS.
09:51:16AM THANK YOU.
09:51:16AM >> THANK YOU.
09:51:16AM [APPLAUSE]
09:51:20AM >> WE NEED A BIGGER BASKET.
09:51:21AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK THIS CLEARLY DEMONSTRATES YOU
09:51:26AM DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH THE WOMEN AT TPD.
09:51:29AM ON BEHALF OF THE CHICO'S RESTAURANT GROUP A GIFT CERTIFICATE
09:51:36AM TO ENJOY BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND DINNER, BELLA BRAVA IN THE
09:51:41AM MIDTOWN, GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR LUNCH AND DINNER, MEAT MARKET
09:51:46AM IN OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE, YOUR ENJOYMENT.
09:51:50AM LUNCH AND DINNER.
09:51:51AM YUMMY HOUSE BISTRO, LUNCH AND DINNER.
09:51:54AM YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS.
09:51:56AM [LAUGHTER]
09:51:57AM AND YMCA IS PROVIDING YOU WITH A GIFT CERTIFICATE AS WELL.
09:52:01AM CONGRATULATIONS AND WE CAN'T TELL YOU HOW PROUD OF THE WOMEN
09:52:06AM AND THE MEN THAT PROVIDE SUPPORT, SAFETY IN THE PRIVATE
09:52:10AM SECTOR AND ALL THESE PLACES.
09:52:12AM I MEAN THEY SHOW UP IN UNIFORM, THEY WILL TREAT YOU RIGHT.
09:52:16AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:52:17AM THANK YOU.
09:52:17AM [APPLAUSE]
09:52:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: SO AS YOU CAN SEE, CORPORAL MONTE IS
09:52:28AM RESPECTED.
09:52:28AM SHE IS APPRECIATED.
09:52:29AM AND BY THE MANY PEOPLE HERE, IS LOVED.
09:52:33AM SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ARE YOU MAY.
09:52:35AM >> THANK YOU TO COUNCIL FOR RECOGNIZING ME AND FOR MY STAFF.
09:52:38AM I WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THIS IF MY STAFF DIDN'T ALLOW ME TO
09:52:42AM HAVE THE IDEAS WHEN IT COMES IT THE COMMUNITY AND HELPS ME
09:52:45AM EXECUTE IT.
09:52:46AM THEY SUPPORTED ME 100% SINCE I MOVED TO THE COMMUNITY SQUAD.
09:52:50AM ALSO MY SQUAD HERE, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING
09:52:53AM WITHOUT THEIR BACKING.
09:52:54AM THEY MAKE ME LOOK GREAT ON A DAILY BASIS.
09:52:54AM [APPLAUSE]
09:53:02AM AND TO MY HUSBAND WHO IS A FORMER TAMPA POLICE OFFICER BEING
09:53:05AM ABLE TO HAVE HIS SUPPORT BECAUSE HE HAS TO LISTEN TO ALL THE
09:53:09AM CRAZY STORIES WHEN I COME HOME.
09:53:11AM I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE HIM.
09:53:12AM I APPRECIATE -- TO EVERYBODY THAT GAVE ME SOMETHING, I ALSO
09:53:16AM APPRECIATE THAT.
09:53:16AM THANK YOU, GUYS, VERY MUCH
09:53:18AM [APPLAUSE]
09:53:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:53:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY.
09:53:29AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR CREATIVE -- CREATIVITY, YOUR DRIVE.
09:53:36AM EVERYBODY SHOWED UP MEANS YOU ARE A GREAT LEADER.
09:53:39AM THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US SAFE.
09:53:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:53:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR PUTTING ON THAT UNIFORM EACH AND
09:53:45AM EVERY DAY AND TO THE SACRIFICE YOU MAKE, AND YOUR FAMILY
09:53:50AM MAKES.
09:53:50AM YOUR HUSBAND UNDERSTANDS BECAUSE HERE WITH TPD.
09:53:53AM THANK YOU FOR THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX AND HELPING THE
09:53:56AM COMMUNITY AND INSPIRING NOT JUST OUR YOUNG PEOPLE BUT US IN
09:54:01AM GENERAL.
09:54:01AM YOU GO ABOVE AND BEYOND AND YOU DESERVE THIS RECOGNITION
09:54:04AM BECAUSE PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THE WORK YOU DO ON TOP OF
09:54:08AM EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
09:54:08AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
09:54:10AM THIS IS WELL DESERVED.
09:54:12AM KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND THANKS.
09:54:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:54:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALSO ECHO EVERYONE'S THANKS, BUT I REALLY
09:54:20AM AS A FORMER TEACHER, REALLY APPRECIATE AND CAN RELATE TO
09:54:25AM ANYBODY WHO HAS A SPECIAL FOCUS FOR CHILDREN.
09:54:26AM SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR FOCUS ON THE
09:54:30AM CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING THINGS BETTER AND
09:54:33AM PROVIDING THAT CONNECTION WITH AN OFFICER THAT HELPS THEM BE
09:54:38AM MORE COMFORTABLE IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND GET TO KNOW EVERYONE
09:54:42AM AND KEEP THEM SAFE.
09:54:43AM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:54:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:54:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:54:50AM I ALWAYS SAY COMMUNITY POLICE BOND WITH CITIZENS AND BOND
09:54:53AM WITH YOUNG PEOPLE.
09:54:56AM IT CURTAILS A LOT OF VIOLENCE.
09:54:58AM OFFICERS KNOW THE COMMUNITY.
09:55:00AM THE KIDS.
09:55:02AM AND CHIEF BENNETT WILL KNOW WE STARTED THE WEED AND SEED
09:55:06AM PROGRAM BACK IN '91 AND '92.
09:55:08AM I HAD ALL THE BASKETBALL PROGRAMS AND GET THE POLICE CAR AND
09:55:12AM GO IN ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND PIBB UP THE SKIDS FOR ALL
09:55:15AM THE TOURNAMENTS.
09:55:16AM ALL THE FOOTBALL PROGRAMS.
09:55:17AM PEOPLE ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
09:55:21AM NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE AT, THEY SEE YOU AT A RESTAURANT,
09:55:25AM HEY, COACH.
09:55:26AM OFFICER G.
09:55:28AM COACHING AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
09:55:29AM I ALWAYS SAY I WAS SADDENED WHEN P.A.L. WENT AWAY FROM
09:55:36AM THE COMMUNITY OPINION WHEN I WAS A BOY, P.A.L. WAS THERE.
09:55:44AM LARRY SIEGEL WAS THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE POLICE ATHLETIC
09:55:48AM LEAGUE.
09:55:48AM IT NEEDS TO COME BACK.
09:55:50AM THOSE TYPE OF ATMOSPHERES NEED TO COME BACK.
09:55:52AM COMMUNITIES.
09:55:53AM WE CAN CURTAIL A LOT OF VIOLENCE FROM THE YOUNG PEOPLE
09:55:56AM BECAUSE THEY WILL START TO BOND.
09:55:57AM EVERY YOUNG PERSON WANTS TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
09:56:00AM DON'T EVER THINK THEY TONIGHT.
09:56:02AM THEY NEED GOOD PEOPLE TO SHOW THEM AND TALK IN THE EAR OF
09:56:06AM HOW TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
09:56:07AM NOT JUST BLACK PEOPLE BUT ALL PEOPLE.
09:56:10AM BLACK PEOPLE, WHITE PEOPLE, HISPANIC PEOPLE, THEY NEED TO
09:56:15AM HAVE SOMEONE -- SEE, YOU CAN'T IT WILLY THEM SOMETHING AND
09:56:17AM NOT FULFILL THE COMMITMENT.
09:56:21AM BECAUSE THEY WILL THINK YOU ARE JUST A LIAR LIKE THEIR DAD
09:56:24AM OR ABSENT MOM THEY GOT.
09:56:26AM AND THEY GO AND THEY STEAL, ROB BECAUSE THEY ARE HUNGRY.
09:56:31AM BUT THEY ARE NOT HUNGRY WHEN PEOPLE SHOW THEIR COMMITMENT
09:56:35AM AND LOVE TO THEM.
09:56:36AM SO JAMIE, I KNOWN YOU WHEN YOU FIRST CAME ON.
09:56:40AM ASSISTANT CHIEF CALVIN FIRST CAME ON.
09:56:44AM PROUD OF YOU GUYS WHO HAVE RISEN AND DO THE THINGS YOU DO
09:56:49AM WITH YOUNG PEOPLE.
09:56:50AM CALVIN GOES OUT -- HE GETS THE KIDS -- APPRECIATE THAT, THEY
09:56:58AM NEED THAT.
09:56:59AM THANK YOU JAMIE FOR GIVING INITIATIVES AND PROGRAMS.
09:57:01AM GENTLE THE MAYOR, SOMEHOW WE NEED TO GET MORE OFFICERS TO
09:57:05AM GET PAL BACK AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS WITH OUR RECREATION
09:57:10AM DEPARTMENT IS SO VALUABLE.
09:57:11AM IT STARTS IN THE PARK.
09:57:12AM TO CURTAIL SOME OF THE VIOLENCE AND THEY WILL START TO BUILD
09:57:15AM AND BUILD IT THEMSELVES.
09:57:16AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO, JAMIE.
09:57:18AM >> THANK YOU.
09:57:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:57:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AN HONOR FOR YOU TO BE HERE TODAY NOT
09:57:24AM ONLY REPRESENTING YOURSELF, FAMILY BUT THE COMMUNITY AND
09:57:27AM SQUAD AND EVERYONE ELSE.
09:57:28AM I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES THAT PARKS -- AND KNOWING THE
09:57:32AM OTHER SIDE MEANS A LOT MORE.
09:57:33AM AND THE PUBLIC REALLY, IN GENERAL, DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT A
09:57:40AM POLICE OFFICER DOES.
09:57:40AM US CURSED AT.
09:57:42AM YOU ARE SPIT AT.
09:57:45AM A LOT OF STUFF THAT GO AROUND THAT SAYS HOW MUCH WILL I
09:57:48AM TAKE.
09:57:48AM A LOT OF REASONS FOR PEOPLE NOT TO BE A POLICE OFFICER.
09:57:50AM RIGHT NOW IS HAPPENING IN THE COUNTRY, HAPPENING IN THE
09:57:54AM WHOLE WORLD, THEY THINK IF YOU ARE FIRE A GUN YOU ARE NOT
09:57:58AM GOING TO KILL NO ONE.
09:58:00AM WRONG.
09:58:01AM HAPPENING MORE OFTEN ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY AND THE PARENTS,
09:58:08AM HOME AND PARKS NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND AND BE MINDFUL HOW THEY
09:58:13AM ARE TALKING TO.
09:58:13AM KIDS ARE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO GET BETTER, NOT WORSE.
09:58:16AM MY OPINION, ONCE A KID GETS 12 YEARS OLD AND YOU HAVEN'T
09:58:20AM GOTTEN TO THEM, YOU LOST THEM.
09:58:21AM I WILL TELL YOU WHY, BECAUSE THEY HANG AROUND WITH 14, 15
09:58:25AM AND 17-YEAR-OLDS THAT ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT HE OR SHE HAS
09:58:28AM NEVER SEEN AND THEY PULL THEM IN AND THEY CAN'T GET OUT.
09:58:34AM AND FROM EXPERIENCE, IT'S A THING THAT -- ONCE YOU ARE IN,
09:58:41AM YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
09:58:42AM I USED TO GO QUITE OFTEN TO SPEAK TO THE KIDS AT THE JAIL
09:58:47AM THERE IN FALL KENBURG ROAD AND FINALLY I GAVE UP, BECAUSE I
09:58:51AM KNEW WHEN THEY CAME OUT, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO
09:58:54AM GO BUT WHERE THEY CAME FROM.
09:58:56AM ONCE YOU DO THAT, YOU ARE NOT SOLVING ANY PROBLEMS AT ALL.
09:58:59AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
09:59:00AM YOU HAVE THE INTUITION TO FOLLOW, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THOSE
09:59:05AM WHO GIVE A PERSON A HAND UP INSTEAD OF A PUSH DOWN.
09:59:08AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:59:09AM >> THANK YOU.
09:59:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WANT TO
09:59:13AM EXPERIENCE WHAT THESE PEOPLE GO THROUGH, I SUGGEST YOU
09:59:19AM ENLIST IN THE CITIZENS ACADEMY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OF
09:59:23AM TAMPA EVEN AFTER THE EXHAUSTING THINGS YOU GO THROUGH WILL
09:59:31AM BE ONLY SCRATCHING THE SURFACE OF WHAT ALL THESE OFFICERS GO
09:59:35AM THROUGH.
09:59:35AM CORPORAL, I THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT EXTRA STEP.
09:59:39AM THANK YOU FOR BEING THAT STRONG, TALL PERSON THAT KNEELS
09:59:47AM DOWN TO A CHILD AND TALKS TO THEM STRAIGHT IN THE EYES.
09:59:50AM NO ONE HAS EVER STOOD TALLER WHEN THEY KNEEL DOWN TO SPEAK
09:59:55AM TO A CHILD.
09:59:56AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
09:59:58AM CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOUR DAY.
10:00:00AM >> THANK YOU.
10:00:00AM [APPLAUSE]
10:00:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM ASSUMING THAT WE ARE AT RECESS.
10:00:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
10:04:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:04:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
10:04:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
10:04:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
10:04:57AM >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
10:04:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AT THIS TIME WE WILL BE TAKING PUBLIC
10:05:14AM COMMENT.
10:05:14AM MR. SHELBY.
10:05:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:05:18AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
10:05:20AM JUST TO REMIND COUNCIL AS TO YOUR PROCEDURE.
10:05:24AM I AM GOING TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION AND THE PUBLIC'S
10:05:26AM ATTENTION RULE 4-D THAT STATES THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL BE
10:05:34AM REFRAIN FROM HAVING DIALOGUE WITH SPEAKERS IN PUBLIC
10:05:40AM COMMENT.
10:05:40AM THOSE ARE YOUR STANDING RULES.
10:05:42AM THANK YOU.
10:05:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:05:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: TO DIFFERENTIATE OF LAND USE IF PEOPLE ARE
10:05:50AM THERE FOR THEM.
10:05:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN TERMS OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT?
10:05:54AM VERY GOOD POINT.
10:05:54AM THANK YOU.
10:05:55AM PUBLIC ITEMS -- THE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK FIRST WILL BE ON AGENDA
10:05:59AM ITEMS BUT YOU CAN SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEMS OR OFF-AGENDA ITEMS
10:06:03AM UNLESS YOUR MATTER IS SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
10:06:07AM 9:30 PUBLIC HEARING, THE 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS OR THE 1:30
10:06:14AM PUBLIC HEARING.
10:06:14AM DO NOT TALK ABOUT THOSE ITEMS UNTIL THEY ARE CALLED UP
10:06:17AM SEPARATELY.
10:06:18AM THANK YOU.
10:06:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:06:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR?
10:06:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE A REQUEST.
10:06:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE REQUEST IS WHEN WE GET TO STAFF REPORTS
10:06:33AM FOR ITEM NUMBER 4, REPRESENTIVE HART IS HERE FOR THE ISSUE ON
10:06:44AM ITEM NUMBER 4.
10:06:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I APOLOGIZE.
10:06:46AM I WAS MISINFORMED.
10:06:48AM I THOUGHT TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:06:50AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO WHEN ITEM 4 COMES UP.
10:06:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: UNDERSTOOD.
10:06:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AFTER OR BEFORE ITEM 4 IS DISCUSSED.
10:06:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOES IT MATTER?
10:07:01AM IT DOESN'T MATTER.
10:07:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF YOU WERE GOING TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC
10:07:18AM COMMENT --
10:07:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL LET YOU SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 4,
10:07:24AM REPRESENTATIVE HART.
10:07:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF YOU WERE GOING TO BE MAKING PUBLIC
10:07:28AM COMMENT, PLEASE FORM A LINE ON MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT.
10:07:32AM >> I WANT TO SAY GOOD MORNING TO ALL OF YOU ALL AND MY
10:08:02AM PRAYER TO BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US.
10:08:07AM I SUFFER WITH OLD-TIMER.
10:08:15AM I DON'T GET AROUND LIKE I USED TO, BUT I THANK GOD FOR AN
10:08:19AM OLD-TIMER, I AM STILL HERE.
10:08:21AM YOU KNOW, I COME UP HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK, WEEK AFTER WEEK,
10:08:28AM NOBODY GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ME AND MY CHURCH.
10:08:33AM THEY BLOCK MY CHURCH IN.
10:08:36AM WE DON'T HAVE NOWHERE TO PARK.
10:08:38AM I HAD A LAWYER OVER THERE YESTERDAY.
10:08:41AM HE SAID WHERE ARE YOU PARKING BEFORE THEY BUILT UP ALL THAT.
10:08:46AM I SAID WE WERE WORKING ON THE STREET.
10:08:48AM PUT THAT LINE OUT THERE -- DEVIL ORANGE LINE ACROSS THE
10:08:54AM STREET SO I CAN'T EVEN PARK IN THE FRONT OF MY CHURCH.
10:08:57AM NOWHERE ELSE TO PARK.
10:08:59AM POLICE COME BY THERE ONE DAY AND TOLD ME HE WILL GIVE ME A
10:09:03AM TICKET IF I DIDN'T MOVE.
10:09:04AM I TOLD HIM TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE ME A TICKET BECAUSE I AM NOT
10:09:08AM GOING TO MOVE.
10:09:09AM HE SAID WELL YOU CAN PARK OVER THERE.
10:09:11AM I SAY NO I CAN'T PARK OVER THERE.
10:09:13AM THEY DON'T WANT ME TO PARK OVER THERE.
10:09:15AM THAT IS OVER THERE AT THE APARTMENT BUILDING.
10:09:17AM I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE SEEM TO HATE SO BAD AND SO HEAVY.
10:09:24AM I AM GOING TO WORK HERE, GOD ALMIGHTY BECAUSE HE IS THE
10:09:37AM REASON I'M HERE THIS MORNING.
10:09:38AM AND I THANK HIM FOR IT TO.
10:09:43AM YOU KNOW WHAT, TAMPA FLORIDA IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE WORST
10:09:47AM CITIES TO STAY AND LIVE IN AND TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
10:09:52AM WE TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING WE ARE FEEDING THE HUNGRY.
10:09:57AM FEEDING THE POOR PEOPLE.
10:09:59AM BUT THEY DON'T WANT US -- TO SEEM FOR US TO WANT TO DO THAT
10:10:05AM NO MORE.
10:10:05AM THEY TAKE OUR FREEDOM AWAY FROM US.
10:10:07AM SO WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, WE STILL HAVE FREEDOM IN JESUS
10:10:12AM CHRIST.
10:10:12AM AND THAT'S WHAT I AM ALL ABOUT.
10:10:13AM YOU GIVE EVERYBODY ELSE A PLAQUE.
10:10:17AM BUT WHY DON'T YOU GIVE ME A PLAQUE.
10:10:19AM LET ME KNOW HOW MUCH YOU APPRECIATE ME FOR WHAT I AM DOING
10:10:24AM AND I AM TRYING TO DO THINGS THAT ARE RIGHT.
10:10:26AM I AM NOT GOING TO THE SCHOOL OF -- KILLING NO ELEMENTARY
10:10:32AM SCHOOL.
10:10:32AM I AIN'T GOING TO DO NOTHING LIKE THAT.
10:10:34AM I AM NOT GOING TO SHOOT UP NOBODY BECAUSE I WANT TO GET THE
10:10:37AM GLORY.
10:10:38AM I WANT TO GET TO HEAVEN.
10:10:40AM THAT IS WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT.
10:10:42AM FOR US TO GET TO HEAVEN.
10:10:43AM I AM NOT STRIVING TO BE HERE ALWAYS.
10:10:48AM MY TIME IS SHORT, BUT I THANK GOD FOR THE DAYS THAT I'M
10:10:51AM HERE.
10:10:51AM WE MUST UNDERSTAND ALSO.
10:10:57AM BROTHER GUDES, I HAVE GOT SOMETHING TO GIVE YOU.
10:11:00AM IT LOOKS LIKE THE DEVIL FOLLOWS ME WHEREVER I GO.
10:11:03AM AND I GOT SOME PROPERTY -- I HAVE PROPERTY -- AND I HEARD IT
10:11:09AM THE FIRST TIME.
10:11:09AM [BEEPING]
10:11:11AM I GOT SOME PROPERTY WHEN MY DADDY LEFT ME HERE.
10:11:14AM AND THEY DONE RED TAGGED MY PROPERTY.
10:11:17AM I WANT TO KNOW THIS HERE, WHY ARE OUR TAXES -- HOMEOWNER
10:11:24AM TAXES GONE UP SO MUCH?
10:11:26AM DOUBLE, TRIPLE -- MAYBE TRIPLE, AND THAT IS NOT RIGHT.
10:11:32AM WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
10:11:33AM THE CITY COUNCIL RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT?
10:11:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:11:38AM >> THANK YOU.
10:11:39AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:11:42AM MR. DRUMGO.
10:11:45AM AM I RECOGNIZED.
10:11:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:11:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU FOLLOW PASTOR OUT.
10:11:51AM GET HIS INFORMATION AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AS IT RELATES --
10:11:54AM BECAUSE I MADE SEVERAL INQUIRIES ABOUT THAT CHURCH.
10:12:00AM WILL YOU DO THAT FOR ME, SIR?
10:12:02AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:12:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, ROD HATCH, 810 EAST PATTERSON
10:12:22AM STREET.
10:12:22AM I CAME TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA BUT BEFORE I GET TO THAT, I
10:12:26AM SENT A VIDEO TO ALL OF YOU ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO ABOUT A
10:12:30AM CONSTRUCTION SITE 1001 AND 1003 ROBSON STREET.
10:12:36AM STREWN WITH LITTER.
10:12:37AM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, THEY ARE CONSTANTLY GOING TO INSPECT
10:12:41AM IT.
10:12:41AM I DON'T KNOW WHY THE CITY DOESN'T RED TAG AND ISSUE A STOP
10:12:46AM WORK PERMIT.
10:12:46AM ONE CONSTRUCTION SITE.
10:12:48AM THOUSANDS OF IT THROUGHOUT THE CITY STREWN WITH LITTER.
10:12:51AM THE OWNER, A NICE YOUNG MAN BUT HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO
10:12:55AM MANAGE HIS PEOPLE.
10:12:56AM THE STORM SEWER IS SUPPOSED TO BE BLOCKED.
10:12:58AM IT IS NOT BLOCKED.
10:13:00AM FENCING HAS BEEN KNOCKED DOWN FOR THREE WEEKS.
10:13:03AM WHAT DOES CONSTRUCTION SERVICES DO IF THEY CAN'T ADDRESS
10:13:06AM THIS.
10:13:06AM HE FINALLY GETS A DUMPSTER MONDAY.
10:13:09AM AND THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN THIS MORNING.
10:13:10AM THERE IS A DUMPSTER THERE.
10:13:12AM ON THE OPPOSITE CORNER YOU CAN SEE A GARBAGE CAN HERE.
10:13:16AM THERE IS THE BLOCKING FOR THE STORM SEWER STILL LAYING
10:13:20AM THERE.
10:13:21AM THIS IS JUST THIS MORNING ABOUT 150 YARDS FROM THE
10:13:27AM HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
10:13:28AM IT GOES RIGHT INTO THE STORM SEWER.
10:13:31AM BLOCKS THE STORM SEWER AND ENDS UP IN THE RIVER AND THE BAY.
10:13:35AM BACK IN JULY, YOU ASKED US OF FINES OF LITTERING AND I KNOW
10:13:39AM THAT IS COMING UP AGAIN TODAY.
10:13:41AM SINCE NOTIFYING YOU A BEAK AND A HALF AGO AND THE MAYOR'S
10:13:44AM OFFICE AND I ALSO FILED A COMPLAINT WITH NEIGHBORHOOD
10:13:47AM ENHANCEMENT.
10:13:48AM CURIOUS TO SIGH HOW MANY FINES WERE GIVEN TO THIS PROPERTY
10:13:52AM OWNER.
10:13:52AM I BET ZERO.
10:13:53AM THIS IS THE CORNER.
10:13:55AM THIS IS JUST ABOUT EVERY EXIT RAMP AND ON RAMP IN THE CITY
10:14:00AM OF TAMPA.
10:14:00AM ALL THIS GOES IN THE RIVER.
10:14:02AM WHAT DOES THE CITY DO?
10:14:04AM SIT ON OUR HAND, COMPLACENT WITH IT.
10:14:06AM $100,000 FOR A FIRM IN OCALA TO TELL YOU WHERE THE LITTERING
10:14:13AM HOT SPOTS.
10:14:14AM I WILL TELL YOU WHERE YOU ARE AND SAVE THAT THE $100,000.
10:14:18AM AN AGGRESSIVE SIGN CAMPAIGN.
10:14:20AM KEEP A CLEAN TAMPA WHY PEOPLE LITTER.
10:14:25AM THEY ARE STUPID, THEY ARE LAZY, IGNORANT OR ALL OF THE
10:14:29AM ABOVE.
10:14:30AM ALL FOUR OR THAT SIMPLE.
10:14:32AM SIGN CAMPAIGN.
10:14:33AM TAKE $100,000 AND PUT IT IN A SIGN CAMPAIGN AND REALLY MAKE
10:14:37AM A DIFFERENCE.
10:14:38AM FROM STORM SEWERS TOOK A PICTURE OF NEBRASKA.
10:14:42AM THIS WAS LAST SATURDAY ON THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
10:14:45AM WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL RIVER.
10:14:46AM WE ALL TALK ABOUT THE RIVERWALK, BUT THE RIVER IS THE HEART
10:14:51AM OF THE CITY.
10:14:51AM NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
10:14:52AM RIGHT HERE ON THE CORNER, THAT IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
10:14:56AM THAT IS RIGHT AT -- COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:15:00AM YOU SAID HOW MANY TRASH CANS I PUT THERE.
10:15:04AM TRASH CANS DON'T FIX STUPID, IGNORANT OR LAZY.
10:15:08AM WON'T DO IT.
10:15:09AM SUNDAY MORNING DAVIS ISLAND.
10:15:13AM 7 A.M. OR 7:30 AFTER SUNRISE, GARBAGE CANS RIGHTS THERE.
10:15:18AM SIGNS AT DAVIS ISLAND.
10:15:20AM NOT ONE OF THOSE SIGNS TALK.LITTER.
10:15:23AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:15:24AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:15:39AM I WANT TO SAY WE NEED BETTER LEADERSHIP.
10:15:42AM WE NEED LEADERSHIP NATIONALLY, LOCALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY
10:15:47AM THAT ADDRESSES REAL ISSUES AND REAL SITUATION AND STOP
10:15:51AM HOODWINKING THE PEOPLE.
10:15:53AM TWO 16-YEAR-OLDS.
10:15:54AM ONE MURDERED.
10:15:55AM ONE IN CRITICAL CONDITION JUST WITHIN THE LAST WEEK.
10:15:59AM AND YOU GOT THE LEADERSHIP RUNNING AROUND HERE TALKING OF
10:16:02AM GUN BUY-BACK AND ALL THIS OTHER STUPIDITY.
10:16:06AM NOBODY PUTS THE BLAME ON WHERE THE BLAME BELONGS ON THE GUN
10:16:10AM MANUFACTURERS.
10:16:11AM ANYWAY, WHAT WE NEED NOW IN THIS CITY, REPARATION, TAX.
10:16:15AM ON THE BALLOT.
10:16:18AM BEFORE WE CAN GET THE REPARATION ON THE BALLOT, WE NEED OUR
10:16:22AM CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE A LEADERSHIP ROLE IN THE NEED FOR
10:16:25AM REPARATION.
10:16:26AM WE NEED A REPARATION TAX ITEM ON THIS CITY COUNCIL AGENDA.
10:16:30AM AFRICAN PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF
10:16:32AM REPARATION.
10:16:33AM AFRICAN PEOPLE THAT REPARATIONS ALSO CURE 98% OF ALL OF OUR
10:16:38AM PROBLEMS.
10:16:38AM WE NEED NOT A LOT OF CRAZY WHITE PEOPLE WITH GOOD WHITE
10:16:42AM NATIONALIST SENSE, TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THE REPARATION.
10:16:47AM WE NEED NOT TO LET WHITE AMERICA TO PUT BLACK ENTERTAINERS
10:16:53AM AND ATHLETES.
10:16:55AM NOT SAYING THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE A VOICE, BUT MEGAN STALLION,
10:16:59AM NIKKI MINAJ, DEION SANDERS AND MANY OTHER ATHLETES,
10:17:05AM ENTERTAINERS, COMMUNITIES LEADERS AND BLACK PREACHERS FEEL
10:17:08AM ABOUT THE WORLD'S ECONOMY, NUCLEAR WEAPONS, SPACE STATION,
10:17:11AM AND WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PREPARE FOR THE NEXT HURRICANE.
10:17:13AM NO ONE SHOULD EXPECT THAT WE AS AFRICANS MAKE PERFORMANCE
10:17:18AM SACRIFICES WITH FREE LABOR, COINCIDENTALLY OF AFRICA,
10:17:22AM AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND AND OTHER PLACES AND NOT GET ANY FORM
10:17:27AM OF COMPENSATION.
10:17:28AM REPARATION ALSO SOLVE CHILD SUPPORT, CRIME, HEALTH CARE,
10:17:32AM EVERY AREA IMAGINABLE.
10:17:33AM WHITE AMERICA KNOWS FOR A FACT THAT THEY OWE AFRICAN PEOPLE
10:17:38AM REPARATIONS.
10:17:38AM INSTEAD OF FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH THE REPARATION PROMISE,
10:17:41AM WHITE AMERICA MOVED IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION BY TAKING OVER
10:17:45AM TWO MILLION ACRES OF LAND FROM PLAQUE FARMERS IN THE 40
10:17:48AM ACRES AND THE MULE.
10:17:49AM INSTEAD OF COMPENSATING AFRICANS FOR OUR WORK, SLAVERY,
10:17:54AM UNEMPLOYMENT AND UNDEREMPLOYMENT, WHITE AMERICA SLAPPED US
10:17:57AM IN THE FACE WITH POLICE BRUTALITY, HOUSING DISCRIMINATION,
10:18:00AM CONVICT LEASING, DISPROPORTIONATELY INCARCERATING AFRICAN
10:18:07AM PEOPLE FOR CRIMES AND TO KEEP THE AFRICAN MAN, WOMAN AND
10:18:11AM CHILD IN SUBROGATION.
10:18:14AM WE AS ADULTS HAVE TO SHOW LEADERSHIP.
10:18:18AM NOT ONLY TO OUR FAMILIES, NOT ONLY TO OURSELVES, NOT ONLY TO
10:18:22AM THE HOMELESS PEOPLE OUT HERE, NOT ONLY TO THE PEOPLE THAT
10:18:25AM EXPERIENCED HOUSING CRISIS AND EMPLOYMENT CRISIS, OTHER
10:18:30AM CRISIS, GAS CRISIS, EVERYTHING HIGH.
10:18:33AM WE NEED TO SHOW LEADERSHIP AND SPEAKING TRUTH TO REAL
10:18:37AM ISSUES.
10:18:38AM PERIOD.
10:18:39AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:18:51AM WALTER DUNN.
10:18:53AM A HOMELESS ADVOCATE.
10:18:54AM MY QUESTION FOR THE COUNCIL TODAY.
10:18:57AM RETURNING CITIZENS COMING BACK TO OUR CITY FROM PRISONS ALL
10:19:00AM OVER THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WHAT JOB ASSISTANCE AND HOUSING
10:19:04AM OPPORTUNITIES DO WE HAVE TO OFFER THEM?
10:19:06AM THERE ARE MANY GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE FROM THE
10:19:08AM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO HELP WITH OUR GREAT CITY.
10:19:11AM WHY AREN'T WE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS.
10:19:14AM WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO FURTHER OUR OUTREACH PROGRAM WHILE
10:19:17AM REDUCING RECIDIVISM AT THE SAME TIME.
10:19:19AM IF THERE IS A PROGRAM OR PROCESS THAT IS AVAILABLE I WILL BE
10:19:26AM HERE UNTIL THE END OF THE SESSION.
10:19:28AM I HAVE GREAT IDEAS AND WOULD LOVE TO DISCUSS IT WITH THE
10:19:31AM COUNCIL.
10:19:31AM THANK YOU.
10:19:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:19:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, MAY I ASK -- MAY I ASK --
10:19:37AM >> YES, SIR.
10:19:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU WANT TO MEET OUTSIDE.
10:19:39AM I DON'T WANT TO TAKE -- WE ARE WORKING ON SOMETHING.
10:19:42AM IF YOU WANT TO MEET OUTSIDE, I WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO YOU.
10:19:45AM >> SURE.
10:19:46AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:19:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:19:48AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, COUNCILMEN, COUNCILWOMAN, ALISON
10:19:57AM HEWITT, 32nd STREET, EAST TAMPA.
10:20:00AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5.
10:20:04AM WE ARE IN EAST TAMPA.
10:20:06AM WE ARE ABSOLUTELY THRILLED OF THE EAST TAMPA RECREATIONAL
10:20:10AM COMPLEX.
10:20:10AM AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INVESTMENTS IN EAST TAMPA.
10:20:12AM BUT WE WANT TO ALSO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT OUR
10:20:17AM COMMUNITY WILL BE WATCHING THIS CLOSELY AS IT MOVES FORWARD.
10:20:19AM WE HAD A -- THE AGENDA ITEM ON THE DESIGN-BUILD.
10:20:25AM AND DURING IMPLEMENTATION FOR THEIR PROJECT, THE COMMUNITY
10:20:29AM WAS THRILLED WHEN THEY SAID THEY HAD A 71% COMMITMENT TO
10:20:33AM MINORITY SMALL BUSINESS INVESTMENT.
10:20:36AM LOOKING AT THIS, THIS IS THE DESIGN-BUILD, AND THAT IS THE
10:20:40AM 71%.
10:20:41AM AND THEY SAID THAT THE REST WILL BE A GOAL ONCE WE HAVE THE
10:20:46AM CONSTRUCTION DESIGN.
10:20:46AM SO WE ARE ENCOURAGING THEM TO STAY AS AGGRESSIVE TO THEIR
10:20:51AM COMMITMENTS WHEN IT GETS DOWN TO THE CONSTRUCTION TO MAKE
10:20:54AM SURE SMALL, MINORITY BUSINESSES ARE INCLUDED.
10:20:56AM AND WE OFFER AT THE EAST TAMPA CRA ECONOMIC SUBCOMMITTEE.
10:21:02AM IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH US TO DO OUTREACH FOR
10:21:05AM SPECIFIC EAST TAMPA BUSINESSES WHO WILL QUALIFY TO BE BONDED
10:21:08AM AND INSURED THAT WE WORK WITH THEM AS THEY MOVE FORWARD.
10:21:14AM THE 71% FOR THE DESIGN-BUILD AND JUST AS COMMITTED DURING
10:21:18AM THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE FOR THEIR INCLUSION OF MINORITY-OWNED
10:21:22AM BUSINESSES AND SPECIFICALLY INCLUSION OF MINORITY BUSINESSES
10:21:25AM LOCATED IN EAST TAMPA.
10:21:27AM THANK YOU.
10:21:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:21:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:21:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:21:33AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. GREG IN THE BACK.
10:21:36AM MAKE SURE YOU TAKE NOTES AND GET INFORMATION AND PARTSER
10:21:40AM INNING WITH THE CAC TO MONITOR FOR THAT CLOSELY.
10:21:44AM I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE WHEN WE GET TO 5, BUT MAKE SURE
10:21:48AM WE PASS THAT ALONG.
10:21:49AM THANK YOU.
10:21:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, KEELA McCASKILL, TAMPA RESIDENT, NATIVE.
10:21:55AM I AM ALSO HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 5, WHILE WE ARE EAGER TO HAVE
10:21:59AM THIS PROJECT AS SHE MENTIONED, WE ARE EXCITED OF THE ACTUAL
10:22:03AM PROJECT.
10:22:03AM BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I MEAN, WE ARE SUPER EXCITED AND
10:22:07AM THANKFUL FOR THE COMMITMENT, THE HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO
10:22:12AM YOU COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR ALL YOU ENCOUNTERED THIS PAST YEAR
10:22:16AM AND MAKING THIS HAPPEN, WORDS OF ONE OF MY FAVORITE SENIORS
10:22:20AM MISS BETTY BELL.
10:22:21AM SHE SAID YOU KEPT YOUR WORD, AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:22:24AM EVEN AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE WANTED TO ALSO -- AND THE STAFF
10:22:27AM PARTICIPATED -- NICOLE IN 30 DAYS TURNED IT AROUND ALONG
10:22:32AM WITH HER ASSISTANT AND THANK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THAT.
10:22:35AM LIKE I SAID, WE ARE EXCITED.
10:22:37AM PUT ON NOTICE THAT WE ARE WATCHING.
10:22:39AM WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
10:22:42AM WE WANT THE PROJECT BUT WANT QUALITY AND AT A FAIR PRICE AND
10:22:46AM WE WANT LOTS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
10:22:49AM I WILL GET TO THAT TOWARD THE END.
10:22:51AM WE HAVE SEEN OUR WOUNDS HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:22:55AM WE HAVE SEEN A LOT.
10:22:56AM FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE TRUSTED, WE ELECTED.
10:23:00AM IN PAST YEAR WE WATCHED THEM FOR DOING THEIR JOB.
10:23:03AM OF SUPPORTING THE CONSTITUENTS.
10:23:06AM PEOPLE WHO COME TO THEM OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
10:23:08AM WE LOST ONE -- THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE.
10:23:10AM WE LOST ONE.
10:23:11AM AND TWO OF THEM WERE UNDER ATTACK.
10:23:13AM AND AFTER ALL THAT -- AFTER ALL OF THAT PROTECTING OUR
10:23:16AM INTEREST ON A PROJECT WHERE WE RAISED REQUEST HE IS, HANNA
10:23:19AM STREET, WE HAD QUESTIONS FOR THEM TRYING TO DO WHAT IS BEST
10:23:22AM FOR THE CONSTITUENTS.
10:23:25AM THEY CAME UNDER ATTACK -- FOR OTHER REASONS AS WELL -- THEY
10:23:29AM CAME UNDER ATTACK AND OUR WOUNDS ARE FRESH.
10:23:31AM WE LEARNED WE CAN'T TAKE WHAT THE STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION
10:23:36AM SAY AT FACE VALUE, WE NEED TO DO OUR OWN DUE DILIGENCE AND
10:23:41AM OWN RESEARCH.
10:23:42AM SEEING THE INFORMATION HERE, WE ARE STILL -- YOU KNOW, WE
10:23:44AM ARE LOOKING AT IT.
10:23:45AM WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING IN HERE THAT WILL CONTRADICT WHAT
10:23:50AM WE WANT.
10:23:50AM WE WANT MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
10:23:52AM LIKE I SAID, WE NEED TO SEE IT AND ASKING THAT IF YOU STAFF,
10:23:57AM TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
10:23:58AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
10:24:00AM BECAUSE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS SO IMPORTANT, INDICATED IT
10:24:03AM HAS TWO MEETINGS DURING THE DESIGN PHASE.
10:24:06AM I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE PLAN DURING THE CONSTRUCTION
10:24:09AM PHASE.
10:24:09AM DURING THE DESIGN PHASE.
10:24:10AM YOU ARE SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT A
10:24:14AM RESIDENTIAL AREA PREDOMINANTLY AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO
10:24:17AM LIVE THERE ARE SENIORS.
10:24:18AM PLAN TO ADDRESS THOSE SENIORS.
10:24:20AM I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE PRESENTATION AT THE REGAN PARK AND I
10:24:25AM DIDN'T SEE IT HERE AT THIS PLAN.
10:24:26AM UNTIL YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A DECISION WHAT IS
10:24:29AM BEST FROM THE COMMUNITY, UNTIL YOU ARE CONFIDENT OF WHAT
10:24:32AM THEY PRESENTED, I AM ASKING YOU THAT DELAY IT AND THEN COME
10:24:35AM BACK WITH THE MORE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT SHOWS US WHAT
10:24:38AM THEY ARE ASKING FOR AND WHAT THEY PRESENTED.
10:24:41AM I DIDN'T SEE WHAT THEY PRESENTED AT REGAN PARK IN TERMS OF
10:24:45AM WHAT THEY PRESENTED.
10:24:46AM I WANT TO SEE AS -- I WANT TO SEE MORE FOR COMMUNITY
10:24:49AM ENGAGEMENT, PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE SENIOR WHO SEEM LIKE
10:24:53AM THEIR VOICES.
10:24:56AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:24:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:24:58AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:25:15AM MY NAME IS VICTOR DeMAYO, 512 N. FRANKLIN STREET.
10:25:20AM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF SEVERAL BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS
10:25:24AM WHO LIVE IN THE N. FRANKLIN STREET AREA JUST NORTH OF HERE.
10:25:28AM I MET -- AFTER THE TWO INCIDENTS AND SOME OPEN GUN FIRE AT
10:25:35AM N. FRANKLIN STREET, MORE PEOPLE BECAME CONCERNED, MORE
10:25:39AM PEOPLE WHO HAVE BUSINESSES AND LIVE DOWNTOWN WITH A COUPLE
10:25:43AM OF ESTABLISHMENTS DOWN THERE, LED AND EDEN.
10:25:48AM WE COME UP WITH A COUPLE OF PROPOSALS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE
10:25:51AM CITY COUNCIL.
10:25:52AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SINCE THIS IS
10:25:56AM LOCALIZED TO ONE OR TWO ESTABLISHMENTS, IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO
10:26:02AM INITIATE THE EXISTING NUISANCE ABATENESS ORDINANCE AND DO
10:26:08AM INVESTIGATION ON THEM.
10:26:08AM AND RATHER TO HAVE THEM IN TOWN, REDUCE THEIR PARTICULAR
10:26:12AM HOURS TO 12 OR 1:00 AT NIGHT WHERE MOST OF THE INCIDENTS
10:26:16AM HAVE OCCURRED.
10:26:17AM THE OTHER SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO REQUIRE THOSE RESTAURANTS
10:26:22AM OR -- EXCUSE ME, NOT RESTAURANTS, BUT THESE ARE LIQUOR-ONLY
10:26:28AM ESTABLISHMENTS, SOME OF THEM.
10:26:29AM REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE OFFICERS AT THE DOOR.
10:26:31AM AN EXISTING ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS THAT REQUIRE CERTAIN
10:26:37AM ESTABLISHMENTS TO HAVE OFFICERS AT THE DOORS BUT OVER A
10:26:40AM CERTAIN AMOUNT OF OCCUPANCY.
10:26:42AM THIS IS SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE FOR THESE
10:26:44AM PARTICULAR COUPLE OF INSTANCES.
10:26:46AM THERE HAS BEEN AN INSTANCE, OPEN AUTOMATIC GUNFIRE ACROSS
10:26:51AM FROM CONDO ASSOCIATION, NORTH OF 7th STREET.
10:26:57AM WE ARE TALKING OF THE NORTH FRANKLIN -- A COUPLE OF DAYS
10:27:01AM NEAR MY HOUSE WEST ARMENIA, THERE WAS A KILLING AT A
10:27:05AM McDONALD'S.
10:27:05AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH TAMPA AT THE MOMENT, BUT
10:27:08AM SEEMS TO BE A LOT -- A LOT OF SHOOTING WITH GUNS.
10:27:11AM AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T CONTROL EVERYTHING, BUT I -- AND THE
10:27:25AM PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP LUKE FRIEDA AND
10:27:33AM MYSELF CAME UP WITH THE SUGGESTIONS THAT COUNCIL TO LOOK AT
10:27:37AM AND HAVE A DISCUSSION AT LEAST WHAT CAN BE DONE BECAUSE IT
10:27:40AM IS HURTING.
10:27:41AM I REPRESENT THE STRAZ CENTER.
10:27:43AM YOU KNOW, ONLY -- THIS INCIDENT HAPPENED JUST A COUPLE OF
10:27:45AM BLOCKS AWAY.
10:27:46AM AND NOW THAT WE ARE KICKING UP OUR SHOWS AGAIN, THERE ARE
10:27:49AM PEOPLE WHO USE PARKING LOTS ALONG TAMPA STREET JUST A COUPLE
10:27:53AM OF BLOCKS AWAY BETWEEN WHERE THIS INCIDENT HAPPENED AND THE
10:27:56AM STRAZ CENTER.
10:27:57AM WE ARE VERY CONCERNED.
10:27:58AM A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF INVESTMENTS IN IT.
10:28:00AM AROUND THE AIRPORT TO BE DOWNTOWN TO BE CLOSER NEAR MY MOM
10:28:05AM WHO IS GETTING A LITTLE ELDERLY.
10:28:07AM SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT UNNERVING TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN.
10:28:10AM IF YOU CAN AT LEAST DISCUSS THIS.
10:28:12AM THANK YOU.
10:28:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:28:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE ASSISTANT CHIEF JOHNSON BACK THERE.
10:28:20AM I MET WITH A BUNCH OF RESIDENTS LAST FRIDAY IN THE DOWNTOWN
10:28:25AM AREA AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD ANOTHER SHOOTING THIS MORNING.
10:28:29AM AND I TALKED ABOUT SOME IDEAS THAT I AM GOING TO BRING FORTH
10:28:34AM TO THE CHIEF.
10:28:34AM MY OFFICE WILL BE SCHEDULING A MEETING WITH YOUR OFFICE,
10:28:38AM CHIEF.
10:28:38AM ONE BEING THATCH WHEN I DO THE CIRCUIT -- YOU KNOW I AM OUT
10:28:44AM THERE.
10:28:44AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BARS.
10:28:47AM I LOOK AT THE TRAINING OF THE SECURITY.
10:28:50AM A LOT OF THEM ARE HIRING GUYS OFF THE STREET WITH NO
10:28:53AM TRAINING.
10:28:53AM COME UP WITH A PROGRAM FOR THESE BARS AND HAVE A LIQUOR
10:28:56AM ESTABLISHMENT, OF THE SECURITY STAFF OF HOW TO -- VERSUS
10:29:00AM BEATING THE HELL OUT OF SOMEBODY ESCORTING THEM OUT OF THE
10:29:04AM DOOR.
10:29:04AM LIKE WHAT YOU ARE TRAINED TO DO.
10:29:06AM YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE AN ISSUE -- WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE
10:29:09AM ABOUT POLICE OFFICERS BEING AT LIQUOR ESTABLISHMENTS.
10:29:12AM THAT IS NOT HAPPENING, BECAUSE SOME OFFICERS DON'T WANT TO
10:29:17AM WORK -- I DON'T KNOW MAYBE A MUNICIPAL AID AGREEMENT AND
10:29:22AM HAVE AN IDEA AS FAR AS SECURITY, LOOKING AT -- WHEN I WAS A
10:29:26AM YOUNG OFFICER WITH A WORKING THE BARS, AT THE END OF THE
10:29:29AM NIGHT, THE OWNERS MADE SURE -- I KNOW WAS A GOOD OWNER AND
10:29:33AM EMPLOYEES WENT AND CLEANED THE PARKING LOT, THE TRASH.
10:29:36AM I GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME ALL OVER THE
10:29:38AM PARKING LOT.
10:29:39AM I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE -- I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A
10:29:47AM TRAINING FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH ALL THE BAR OWNERS.
10:29:50AM AND DOs AND DON'Ts AND THINGS THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED.
10:29:53AM I AM GOING TO SET UP WITH YOU AND THE CHIEF TO SEE WHAT WE
10:29:58AM CAN DO.
10:29:58AM I WON'T MAKE A MOTION TODAY BECAUSE I WANT TO MEET WITH YOU
10:30:02AM TO SEE WHAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT.
10:30:03AM ALSO ZONING WHEN YOU TALK OF FRANKLIN STREET.
10:30:06AM IT IS BECOMING MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND LOOK AT THE
10:30:09AM ZONING AND HAVING BARS MOVE OUT OF THERE.
10:30:11AM SOMETHING.
10:30:12AM SOME CAN'T GET OUT RIGHT NOW PAUSE THEY ARE GRANDFATHERED.
10:30:17AM BUT THOSE THAT ARE COMING FORWARD NOW, MAYBE WE CAN CHANGE
10:30:19AM THAT.
10:30:20AM WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION, CHIEF.
10:30:23AM >> I APPRECIATE THAT ALSO.
10:30:24AM I KNOW IT A CONCERN FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE
10:30:27AM COMMUNITY.
10:30:27AM WE HAVE HAD THOSE TALKS WITH SOME OF THE BARS ON HOW TO
10:30:32AM PROVIDE THAT BETTER SECURITY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
10:30:35AM FRANKLIN STREET IS SOMETHING NEW.
10:30:38AM AND KIND OF LIKE THE BARS THAT OPEN ON FRANKLIN STREET, THEY
10:30:43AM DON'T HAVE THAT SECURITY ASPECT.
10:30:44AM THEY LIKE THE BUSINESS SIDE OF IT, BUT THEY DON'T D -- NOT
10:30:51AM THAT THEY DON'T LIKE THE SECURITY ASPECT, THEY DON'T FOCUS
10:30:54AM ON IT.
10:30:54AM THEY DON'T KNOW WHO IS COMING IN THEIR BARS AND CLUBS.
10:30:57AM ONE HOMICIDE WE HAD, WE HAD GANG MEMBERS IN THERE.
10:31:02AM THEY DON'T KNOW WHO IS INSIDE THE CLUBS AT THE TIME.
10:31:05AM THE SECURITY CAN BE LAX.
10:31:07AM I TALKED TO AN OWNER AFTER THE INCIDENT OCCURRED AND ASSURED
10:31:12AM THEM THAT WE WILL LOOK INTO IT.
10:31:13AM THE TRAINING THEY NEED TO REALLY TRY TO BE AWARE OF WHO IS
10:31:18AM COMING INTO THEIR CLUB.
10:31:19AM WHERE THE PATRONS ARE PARKING AT WHEN THEY GO IN THEIR CLUBS
10:31:24AM WILL ALL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE HAVE THOSE
10:31:26AM TALKS.
10:31:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I LIKE YOU AND THE CHIEF AND WHOEVER WITH
10:31:30AM COMMUNITY AFFAIRS TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT ALL THE BARS WE
10:31:35AM HAVE.
10:31:35AM MEETING WITH THOSE BARS AND MAYBE SOMEHOW PUT TOGETHER SOME
10:31:38AM TYPE OF TRAINING PROGRAM FOR THE BARS OPINION IF THEY KNOW
10:31:41AM WHAT TO DO, THEY MAYBE CAN PREVENT SOME OF THESE THINGS FROM
10:31:46AM HAPPENING.
10:31:46AM WHO IS IN THE CLUB.
10:31:48AM MAYBE SOMETHING TO PAY FOR IF WE OFFER THAT.
10:31:51AM WHEN I GO TO YBOR CITY, I SEE GUYS TO BE SECURITY FOR THE
10:31:56AM NIGHT.
10:31:56AM I THINK -- MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE AN ORDINANCE INCORPORATED
10:32:01AM LIKE THAT, BUT I AM LOOKING FOR THE IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS TO
10:32:05AM COME BACK WITH SOMETHING.
10:32:06AM >> SURE WILL.
10:32:07AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL WAIT BUT DO NOT WANT TO -- I WANT TO
10:32:12AM YOU GO AHEAD AND BRING SOMETHING TO US.
10:32:13AM >> I WILL BE IN TOUCH.
10:32:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:32:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:32:18AM REAL QUICK, GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS UP AND I APPRECIATE THE
10:32:21AM SPEAKER.
10:32:21AM I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AT THE ENDS OF THE MEETING.
10:32:24AM I AM NOT.
10:32:24AM IT IS YOUR DISTRICT.
10:32:25AM YOU TAKE THE LEAD.
10:32:27AM I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT YOU.
10:32:28AM I MET TWO OF THE COMMUNITY THERE.
10:32:31AM A MAN SHOT IN THE HEAD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET IN
10:32:35AM FRANKLIN STREET, YOU KNOW.
10:32:36AM THAT IS JUST ONE OF OTHER INSTANCES.
10:32:39AM BUT SEND A MESSAGE THAT WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM I DON'T
10:32:43AM KNOW WHAT WILL.
10:32:44AM THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE LEADERSHIP ON THIS.
10:32:46AM AND I HOPE WE FIND A SOLUTION.
10:32:48AM THANK YOU.
10:32:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: JUST ONE MORE THING IF YOU DON'T MIND.
10:32:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:32:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR BEING RECOGNIZED.
10:32:55AM WE ARE NOT ADVOCATING -- BECAUSE IT IS FRANKLIN STREET.
10:32:58AM I HAVE BEEN TALKING THIS A WHILE ALL OVER THE CITY IN
10:33:02AM REFERENCE TO GUN VIOLENCE, YBOR AND SO FORTH.
10:33:04AM NOW I THINK IT HAS COME TO A HEAD.
10:33:07AM WE WILL LOOK AT THE WHOLE CITY AS A WHOLE.
10:33:10AM SOME TYPE OF PROGRAM OR TRAINING FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS CITY
10:33:13AM SO THEY WILL KNOW WHAT TO DO NOT JUST BECAUSE IT IS FRANKLIN
10:33:17AM STREET.
10:33:17AM I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC.
10:33:24AM >> ANYTHING ELSE?
10:33:26AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S IT.
10:33:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
10:33:28AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:33:31AM CONNIE BURTON.
10:33:33AM OCTOBER IS SPECIAL FOR PEOPLE WHO IS ENGAGED FOR FIGHTING
10:33:40AM FOR LIBERATION AND FREEDOM BECAUSE WE HAVE A CHANCE TO
10:33:42AM RECOGNIZE OUR BELOVED SISTER FANNY LOU HAMER AND WORK OF THE
10:33:49AM BLACK PANTHER PARTY.
10:33:50AM THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY FORMED IN 1966.
10:33:54AM PUT TOGETHER A TEN-POINT PLATFORM.
10:33:57AM SPOKE TO THE NEEDS THAT AFRICAN PEOPLE NEEDED IN AMERICA.
10:34:01AM AND POINT NUMBER FIVE WAS BETTER HOUSING.
10:34:03AM SO IN 1966 THROUGH THE JOURNEY OF THE CIVIL ARE RIGHTS
10:34:09AM MOVEMENT, WE ARE STILL TALKING OF BETTER HOUSING.
10:34:11AM HOUSING FOR PEOPLE TO JUST BE ABLE TO FIND DIGNITY IN
10:34:18AM LIVING.
10:34:18AM THE OTHER NIGHT, THE CITY HAD, I THOUGHT, A MEETING OF AN
10:34:24AM ACCESSORY DWELLING TO FIND OUT IT WAS ON VIRTUAL.
10:34:27AM COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT TO BE LEFT OUT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
10:34:30AM IT WAS ADVERTISED ON BAY NEWS 9.
10:34:36AM BUT UNFORTUNATELY, INFORMATION CAME TO US A LITTLE TOO LATE.
10:34:41AM POINT NUMBER -- AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5 MAY BE LIKE AGENDA
10:34:46AM NUMBER 26.
10:34:47AM THE HANNA STREET PARKING IS ALMOST COMPLETED.
10:34:50AM YOU GO DOWN ONE DAY TO GARAGES BUILT.
10:34:54AM BUT WHEN WE GO TO ASK PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHAT IS THE
10:34:58AM ECONOMIC IMPACT IS COMING TO THE COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE THAT
10:35:01AM LIVE THERE IN TERMS OF JOBS.
10:35:03AM WE DON'T SEE IT.
10:35:04AM SO HOPEFULLY WHEN YOU ARE BUILDING YOUR EAST TAMPA
10:35:07AM DEVELOPMENT AND IN JACKSON HEIGHTS, IT DON'T BE BECAUSE WE
10:35:14AM GOT A PRETTY DESIGN.
10:35:16AM TWO OR THREE PEOPLE END UP GETTING JOBS AND THE REST OF US
10:35:20AM ARE SPECTATORS.
10:35:21AM ITEM NUMBER 58 IS $60,000 THAT THE EAST TAMPA GROUP HAD TO
10:35:26AM END UP FOR THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
10:35:30AM HOPEFULLY THAT ACTION PLAN WILL BECOME OF USE TO THE
10:35:34AM COMMUNITY.
10:35:36AM NUMBER 18, I AM CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW THAT IS GOING TO BENEFIT
10:35:42AM PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:35:43AM THE BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
10:35:46AM OF COURSE WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AS
10:35:49AM WELL.
10:35:49AM AND I AM NOT GOING TO SPEAK ILL ON ITEM NUMBER 4.
10:35:53AM BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT SENDING RESOURCES TO ANY
10:36:02AM NONPROFIT AND ESPECIALLY IN EAST TAMPA, WE WANT IT TO BE FOR
10:36:04AM THE BETTER GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.
10:36:06AM WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE THAT PEOPLE INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITIES
10:36:09AM ARE SEEING REDEVELOPMENT AND REHAB.
10:36:11AM WE HAVE TOO MANY BLUE TARPS.
10:36:15AM TOO MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO SIMPLY DON'T KNOW HOW
10:36:18AM TO GO AND OBTAIN THE INFORMATION.
10:36:21AM SO WHEN THE CITY IS DOING ALL THESE WONDERFUL THINGS PRIOR
10:36:24AM TO ELECTION CAMPAIGNS, WE WANT TO SEE ACTUAL WORK.
10:36:27AM THANK YOU.
10:36:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:36:31AM ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:36:36AM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
10:36:42AM >>CLERK: JEAN STROHMEYER, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, YOU HAVE THREE
10:36:49AM MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:36:50AM >> HELLO.
10:36:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HELLO.
10:36:52AM >> HELLO.
10:36:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HELLO.
10:36:53AM >> HELLO?
10:36:57AM OH, PEPPERONI.
10:36:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE CAN HEAR YOU.
10:37:00AM >>CLERK: YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
10:37:04AM >> HELLO?
10:37:11AM HOLY MOTHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING.
10:37:12AM HELLO.
10:37:13AM CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME?
10:37:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:37:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:37:18AM >> LET ME KNOW -- BECAUSE I CAN'T HEAR YOU ALL ACKNOWLEDGE.
10:37:22AM ANYWAY, JEAN STROHMEYER.
10:37:26AM I WAS JUST ON THE PHONE AND I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS ALREADY MY
10:37:29AM TURN.
10:37:29AM HOW ARE YOU DOING.
10:37:30AM HOPE EVERYBODY IS GO.
10:37:32AM GO THROUGH THE AGENDA REAL QUICK.
10:37:33AM TRANSPARENCY.
10:37:35AM YES, WE LOVE TRANSPARENCY.
10:37:39AM THANK YOU FOR COUNCILMAN CARLSON BRINGING THAT UP OFTEN.
10:37:42AM I DID NOT KNOW OF THE $21 MILLION.
10:37:45AM IT NEEDS TO BE ON THE AGENDA EVERY TIME, ALL THE TIME.
10:37:47AM WE DO SCAN FOR BIG NUMBERS.
10:37:50AM WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH EVERYTHING IS.
10:37:52AM SO ON -- AND THEN I JUST -- SOMEBODY MENTIONED SOMETHING
10:37:56AM ABOUT -- SOMETHING ABOUT JUSTICE, SOCIAL JUSTICE, CRIMINAL
10:38:00AM JUSTICE, THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT JUSTICE BUT NEVER SAYS
10:38:02AM ANYTHING ABOUT -- ANYTHING IN FRONT OF THE WORD "JUSTICE."
10:38:05AM BECAUSE "JUSTICE" ACTUALLY IS GETTING WHAT YOU DESERVE
10:38:09AM WITHOUT FAVOR.
10:38:10AM SOCIAL JUSTICE IS GETTING WHAT WITH YOU DON'T DESERVE
10:38:13AM BECAUSE YOU ARE -- WHETHER YOU ARE POOR.
10:38:15AM WHETHER YOU ARE RICH.
10:38:17AM IT DOESN'T MATTER.
10:38:18AM SO JUST KEEP IN MIND WHAT JUSTICE REALLY IS.
10:38:21AM THERE IS NO SOCIAL JUSTICE.
10:38:22AM THAT IS INJUSTICE.
10:38:24AM ON THE AGENDA, LET'S SEE -- A FEW THINGS.
10:38:29AM WE ARE TALKING OF ALL OF THE LITTER AND ALL THAT, TAMPA HAS
10:38:33AM A CONTRACT WITH KEEP TAMPA BAY BEAUTIFUL.
10:38:36AM WE HAVE GIRL SCOUTS.
10:38:37AM WE HAVE CUB SCOUTS.
10:38:39AM WE HAVE GROUPS ALL OVER THAT ASSOCIATE -- IN FACT TO DO ANY
10:38:43AM KINDS OF GROUP PROJECT TO CLEAN UP ANYTHING, WE HAVE TO GO
10:38:46AM THROUGH KEEP TAMPA BEAUTIFUL OR WHATEVER -- LIKE KEEP TAMPA
10:38:50AM BAY BEAUTIFUL.
10:38:51AM AND THAT'S IMPORTANT.
10:38:53AM SO WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON LITTER CAMPAIGNS.
10:38:57AM BECAUSE THAT KIND OF THING IS FREE.
10:38:59AM JUST ADD SOME MORE -- WE CLEAN UP THE RIVER BY BOAT, BY
10:39:04AM CANOE, WHATEVER.
10:39:05AM THERE ARE A LOT OF THOSE DAYS.
10:39:07AM SO JUST ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO CLEAN UP THE LITTER.
10:39:11AM YES, IT IS STUPID PEOPLE WHO DO THAT AND RUDE PEOPLE.
10:39:14AM YOU GO TO IRELAND, NOT ONE STICK OF LITTER ANYWHERE ON THE
10:39:18AM GROUND.
10:39:18AM BEAUTIFUL AND GREEN JUST SO YOU KNOW.
10:39:20AM BUDGET ITEMS.
10:39:22AM NUMBER 25, Y'ALL MENTIONED SHOULD INCLUDE THE DETAILS
10:39:27AM IN SIRE.
10:39:27AM I AGREE.
10:39:28AM YES, YOU CAN DO THAT.
10:39:29AM ANYWAY, A FEW OTHER ITEMS THAT I -- OH, NUMBER 12, CITIZEN
10:39:35AM ADVISORY BUDGET.
10:39:36AM I DON'T REALLY BELIEVE PEOPLE THAT ARE APPOINTED AND
10:39:42AM NONELECTED SHOULD HAVE CONTROL OVER OUR BUDGET.
10:39:43AM WE VOTE FOR YOU PEOPLE TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
10:39:47AM WE DON'T VOTE FOR PEOPLE ON ALL THESE LITTLE ADVISORY
10:39:52AM COMMITTEES.
10:39:52AM I AM A LITTLE WORRY ABOUT THAT.
10:39:53AM GETTING OUT OF CONTROL ALL THESE COMMITTEES AND SUCH.
10:39:57AM UNDER ADMINISTRATION.
10:40:00AM AND THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR TODAY.
10:40:02AM HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:40:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:40:04AM ANYONE ELSE WISH TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:40:11AM CHIEF BENNETT.
10:40:11AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
10:40:22AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF AND GOOD MORNING TO THE PUBLIC.
10:40:26AM EARLIER DURING THE AGENDA APPROVAL, THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL
10:40:30AM TO TAKE STAFF REPORTS IN A CERTAIN SEQUENCE.
10:40:34AM SO IF IT IS OKAY WITH COUNCIL, I WILL USE ITEM NUMBER 3 TO
10:40:40AM TALK ABOUT ITEMS 24, 25, 26 AND 28.
10:40:44AM IS THAT OKAY WITH COUNCIL?
10:40:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OBJECTION TO THAT?
10:40:48AM PLEASE PROCEED.
10:40:49AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU.
10:40:50AM SO I AM GOING TO START WITH THE -- WITH THE ODD NUMBERS.
10:40:56AM SO LET'S GET THOSE OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT -- BECAUSE WHEN I
10:41:02AM WROTE THE MEMO TO COUNCIL, THE FINAL DRAFT WASN'T THERE YET.
10:41:05AM ITEM 25, WHICH JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE I WANT TO MAKE
10:41:11AM SURE.
10:41:12AM BUDGET ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TO INCLUDE A ONE-PAGE REPORT
10:41:15AM IN SIRE WITH THE FOLLOWING, THE ADDRESS OF THE PROJECT, THE
10:41:18AM NUMBER OF BIDDERS, THE NAME OF THE BIDDERS, THE DOLLARS AND
10:41:22AM WHY THE WINNING BID WAS SELECTED OVER OTHER BIDS.
10:41:25AM AND FIRST I WANT TO SAY IN THE SPIRIT OF CONTINUOUS
10:41:29AM IMPROVEMENT.
10:41:29AM TRANSPARENCY AND VISIBILITY IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS A
10:41:35AM WORK IN PROGRESS.
10:41:36AM WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS BOTH IN COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.
10:41:39AM THE TIME WE GET FEEDBACK AND A CLASSIC EXAMPLE WHAT IS
10:41:44AM HAPPENED IN THIS ADMINISTRATION THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
10:41:47AM WHO HAD A PROCUREMENT BACKGROUND -- IF YOU PUT IN THE ACTUAL
10:41:52AM ITEM, WHETHER IT WAS A COST INCREASE, A BAROMETRIC FOR
10:41:58AM COUNCIL MEMBER TO GO IN DEEPER, 10%, 3%.
10:42:02AM SO OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT ADAPTED TO THAT AND PUT THAT
10:42:05AM RIGHT IN THE LINE.
10:42:07AM TO MR. CARLSON AGENCIES POINT THIS MORNING, WHAT DO WE MAKE
10:42:11AM MORE VISIBILITY AS OPPOSED TO DEEPER INSIDE THE SIRE SYSTEM
10:42:16AM THAT ALLOW PEOPLE TO LOOK DEEPER IN THIS.
10:42:18AM IN THIS JOURNEY OF TRANSPARENCY, PART OF THAT IS WORKING ON
10:42:22AM THE VISIBILITY OF THE INFORMATION.
10:42:24AM AND SO COUNCIL WAS MOVING THE PLATFORM FOR TWO PARTS.
10:42:37AM ONE TO ENHANCE THE BUDGET AWARENESS AND THE ABILITY TO GO
10:42:40AM DEEP DIVE INTO THE BUDGET.
10:42:42AM AND I KNOW THERE IS A TRAINING CURVE TO THAT.
10:42:44AM AND THAT IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT ALSO THE
10:42:48AM PERFORMANCE METRICS OF THE CITY, NO MATTER WHAT WE ARE DOING
10:42:51AM FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE AND COMMUNITY SERVICE.
10:42:53AM BRINGING THOSE DATA POINTS, WHETHER THEY ARE ENTERPRISE
10:42:57AM DRIVEN OR GENERAL FUND DRIVEN TO BRING THAT FORWARD TO THE
10:43:01AM PUBLIC AND MAKE THAT AS TRANSFORMING AS POSSIBLE TO SUPPORT
10:43:05AM FURTHER ANALYSIS AND, AGAIN, CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT FOR
10:43:09AM EFFICIENCY, EQUITY AND OPENNESS.
10:43:13AM SO GOING BACK TO THIS MOTION WHICH I APPRECIATE ASKING FOR
10:43:17AM THOSE THINGS TO BE ELEVATED, I CALLED IT TNI DIVISION
10:43:24AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BACK END OF SIRE AND THEY INSTANTLY
10:43:28AM UPDATED THE FRAMEWORK OF THAT STAFF REPORT TO INCLUDE THOSE
10:43:31AM ITEMS.
10:43:32AM GAVE A PROTOTYPE TO SHOW THEY ARE RIGHT THERE ON THE FRONT
10:43:36AM PAGE.
10:43:36AM AND MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AS SOON AS NOVEMBER 3, YOU WILL
10:43:40AM SEE REPORTS THAT INCLUDE THOSE FIVE ELEMENTS.
10:43:42AM SO IF THAT IS OKAY WITH COUNCIL -- AND THERE MAY BE ANOTHER
10:43:46AM ITERATION THAT HITS US OVER THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE TOGETHER.
10:43:49AM WE CAN MAKE THOSE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT EFFORTS.
10:43:52AM SO IF STAFF HAS ANY -- I WOULD LIKE TO GO ONE BY ONE TO MAKE
10:43:58AM SURE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.
10:43:59AM BUT IT MAY TAKE A COUPLE COUNCIL ITERATIONS TO GET ALL THAT
10:44:03AM FILLED OUT, BUT THE FRAMEWORK IS THERE TO FULFILL WHAT
10:44:06AM COUNCIL HAS ASKED FOR.
10:44:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:44:10AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:44:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS.
10:44:13AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN ASKING FOR FOR
10:44:16AM QUITE SOME TIME.
10:44:17AM IT DOES HELP US.
10:44:17AM IT HELPS OUR -- HELPS THE PUBLIC WHICH IS THE WHOLE POINT OF
10:44:24AM WHY WE ARE HERE.
10:44:25AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
10:44:26AM APPRECIATE THAT.
10:44:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:44:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR ANYTHING YOU CAN TO DO PROVIDE
10:44:33AM THE TRANSPARENCY AND VISIBILITY.
10:44:35AM STARTED THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, A GREAT CONCERN OF
10:44:40AM THE RFP PROCESS AND YOU HAVE BEEN PERSONALLY WORKING ON IT
10:44:43AM TO MAKE IT TRANSPARENT.
10:44:45AM A LOT OF ALLEGATIONS BACK AT THAT TIME, BUT THAT -- THAT
10:44:48AM NEGATIVITY HAS -- HAS CROSSED OVER US TO AND BECAUSE PEOPLE
10:44:54AM WERE SUSPICIOUS OF THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, THEY ARE
10:44:56AM SUSPICIOUS OF THIS.
10:44:57AM SO THE MORE INFORMATION WE CAN GIVE THAT IS EASILY
10:45:00AM ACCESSIBLE BY THE PUBLIC, THE EASIER IT IS TO ANSWER THE
10:45:03AM QUESTIONS FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY CAN TRUST
10:45:06AM THE SYSTEM.
10:45:06AM THANK YOU.
10:45:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
10:45:11AM CHIEF, ANY ACTION WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE?
10:45:14AM >>JOHN BENNETT: NO.
10:45:14AM IF COUNCIL IS SATISFIED AND YOU WILL SEE THE PROTOTYPE.
10:45:17AM FOR SOME REASON -- NOW, OF COURSE, BECAUSE THERE IS A
10:45:21AM FRAMEWORK, THERE IS CONTENT.
10:45:22AM SO LET'S LOOK AT THE CONTENT TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE THAT THE
10:45:25AM CONTENT MEETS THE SPECS.
10:45:29AM WE HAVE CONSTANT MEETING AT THE STAFF LEVEL WORKSHOPS
10:45:33AM COACHING THE CONTENTS AS WE GO ALONG.
10:45:35AM THANK YOU.
10:45:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH
10:45:38AM THIS REPORT?
10:45:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM.
10:45:40AM ACTUALLY, THOUGH, I AM GOING TO ASK THAT THIS COME BACK JUST
10:45:44AM TO HAVE IT ON OUR CALENDAR IN JANUARY JUST TO KIND OF, YOU
10:45:49AM KNOW, SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING.
10:45:51AM SEE IF THERE ARE ANY UPDATES OR CHANGES THAT WE WANT MADE.
10:45:55AM >> SECOND.
10:45:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: LET'S DO THAT JANUARY 5 DURING STAFF REPORTS,
10:46:04AM PLEASE.
10:46:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF, DOES THAT GIVE YOU AND STAFF ENOUGH
10:46:07AM TIME?
10:46:07AM >>JOHN BENNETT: IT DOES.
10:46:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:46:11AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:46:13AM ALL IN FAVOR.
10:46:14AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:46:15AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:46:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: ALSO, IF YOU WERE GOING TO EXPLAIN THE
10:46:21AM REASON WHY A BID WAS AWARDED.
10:46:26AM I HAVE MANY CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE IS I ASK STAFF WHY YOU CHOSE
10:46:31AM THIS BIDDER OVER ANOTHER AND THEY SAID WE LIKE THEM BETTER
10:46:35AM AND GOOD FOR EAST TAMPA.
10:46:36AM VERY VAGUE OPINION I WILL JUST ASK YOU, THERE MUST BE SOME
10:46:41AM OBJECTIVE CRITERIA IN DECIDING WHICH FIRM AND IT WILL BE
10:46:45AM GOOD TO KNOW WHAT THAT WAS.
10:46:46AM THANK YOU.
10:46:47AM >>JOHN BENNETT: WILL LOOK FOR THAT CONTENT POINTER, THANK
10:46:51AM YOU.
10:46:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF, MOVE ON TO 27.
10:46:54AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I DO IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
10:46:56AM I WROTE A SEPARATE MEMO TO BREAK IT OUTS OF THE MASTER
10:47:05AM MEMO ON SEPTEMBER 12.
10:47:06AM THE REASON I DID THAT I WANT TO REITERATE THE WORK IN
10:47:09AM PROGRESS AGAIN ON CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT ON -- BETWEEN THE
10:47:13AM TRANSPAREN AND MOBILITY, THERE IS ALSO THE TIMELINESS.
10:47:17AM I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT STAFF HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB OF
10:47:21AM TRYING TO GET EITHER STAFF REPORTS AND THE AGENDA ITEMS IN
10:47:26AM PRIOR TO THE WEEKEND, WORKING WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE WHO
10:47:30AM DOES A TREMENDOUS JOB.
10:47:32AM AND WE LOOK FOR IT AND BRIEFS LEADING UP INTO THE AGENDA
10:47:38AM ITEM HOWEVER, THERE ARE CERTAIN UNIQUE THINGS, OF COURSE,
10:47:43AM NOTED IN MY MEMO.
10:47:44AM I TALKED ABOUT THE CHALLENGES WE HAD OVER THE LAST 30 MONTHS
10:47:47AM OF HAVING A BUSY CITY, A GROWING CITY, AND BEING CHALLENGED
10:47:50AM BY THINGS LIKE THE PANDEMIC.
10:47:52AM OF COURSE, THE STORM WE JUST HAD, ETC.
10:47:55AM EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THERE WILL BE SOMETHING.
10:47:57AM AND IT REALLY FALLS ON MY SHOULDERS.
10:48:00AM I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT IF SOMETHING IS GETTING
10:48:03AM COMPRESSED AGAINST THE DEAD LIEN, THAT I TRY TO MAKE A
10:48:05AM BUSINESS DECISION TO MOVE THIS CITY FORWARD.
10:48:08AM AND REALLY THE BURDEN IS KIND ON ME TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA.
10:48:12AM ONE COMMITMENT I MADE TO STAFF AND COUNCIL IS THAT WE ARE
10:48:15AM GOING TO WORK HARD TO MAKE SURE ALL THE BACK-UP MATERIAL AND
10:48:18AM EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE THE WEEK AHEAD OF THE COUNCIL
10:48:22AM MEETING.
10:48:23AM AND IF FOR SOME REASON SOMETHING HAS TO GO FORWARD AND
10:48:28AM AMENDED.
10:48:29AM WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AS A WALK-ON OR SOME INDEPENDENT
10:48:33AM ACTION.
10:48:33AM YOU SEE THE MEMO 18 MONTHS AGO AND THE MEMO I UPDATED FROM
10:48:40AM MY OFFICE TO STAFF AND COUNCIL TO TRY TO MAKE SURE ALL THE
10:48:43AM BACK-UP MATERIALS IN A TIMELY MANNER TO MAKE SURE THE
10:48:46AM PRESENTATIONS ARE IN A TIMELY MANNER SO WE ALL HAVE THE BEST
10:48:50AM DECISION SUPPORT GOING FORWARD.
10:48:51AM SO, AGAIN, THE HOUSEKEEPING, QUALITY ASSURANCES, THE QUALITY
10:48:56AM CONTROLS ARE TRYING TO BE FORTIFIED, AND IN PLACE.
10:48:59AM I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE WITH SOME OF THE AGENDA
10:49:03AM ITEMS UNDER UNIQUE SCENARIOS AND I TRY TO ILLUSTRATE THAT.
10:49:06AM SO ANY QUESTIONS.
10:49:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:49:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:49:13AM APPEAR HANNA PROJECT.
10:49:15AM THAT WILL BE DUE TO COME BACK WITH A FULL REPORT.
10:49:19AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WILL TALK ABOUT HANNA, IF THAT IS OKAY.
10:49:22AM THE FOURTH THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ON THE LIST.
10:49:25AM THIS IS JUST THE GENERAL LIST THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO
10:49:28AM UNDERSTAND WE LOOK INTERNALLY AND COUNCIL'S BENEFIT TO MAKE
10:49:33AM SURE EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE PRIOR TO AGENDA WEEK, IF YOU
10:49:36AM WILL.
10:49:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:49:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:49:44AM ONE THING IS WE TALKED ABOUT A SECOND AGO AND THE OTHER ITEM
10:49:47AM IS THE -- IS THE SUMMARY, MAKING SURE ALL THE WORDS ARE IN
10:49:51AM THERE AND ANY GUIDANCE THAT THE COUNCIL SET UP ARE FOLLOWED.
10:49:55AM IF IT INVOLVES PURE, IT CAN'T BE LABELED AS SOMETHING ELSE.
10:49:59AM NEEDS TO CLEARLY SAY PURE.
10:50:01AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A VISUAL RULE, BUT IF IT DEALS WITH A
10:50:05AM NUMBER, THE NUMBER SHOULD BE IN THERE AND OTHER THINGS THAT
10:50:09AM WE WANT TO PUT IN.
10:50:10AM THERE IS THAT.
10:50:11AM AND THIS ITEM IS MORE ABOUT WHAT IS IN THE BACK-UP.
10:50:16AM AND WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK AND THE WEEK BEFORE, A LOT OF
10:50:20AM BACK-UP THE LAST TIME.
10:50:21AM AND THIS WAS JUST AFTER THE HURRICANE AND IT HAPPENS A LOT.
10:50:24AM AND I GOT TO THE POINT WHERE -- INSTEAD OF READING --
10:50:28AM SUPPOSED TO HAVE EVERYTHING.
10:50:29AM AND INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO READ THE AGENDA OVER WEEKEND I
10:50:33AM READ IT IN WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON SO MUCH CHANGES AND SO MUCH
10:50:36AM GETS PUT IN THE LAST MINUTE.
10:50:37AM NOT FAIR TO US, BUT IN PARTICULAR, NOT FAIR TO THE PUBLIC.
10:50:41AM 88 ITEMS OR 89 ITEMS TODAY, THE PUBLIC HAVE A RIGHT TO SEE
10:50:47AM THAT AND THE BACK-UPS AND SUMMARIES ARE NOT SUFFICIENT
10:50:50AM BECAUSE YOU NEED THE BACK-UP TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ITEM IS.
10:50:55AM AND IN YOUR REVIEW, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU HAVE A HARD
10:50:59AM STOP DATE TO SAY AFTER THIS POINT, WE ARE NOT GOING TO PUT
10:51:03AM ANYTHING IN.
10:51:04AM ON THE WALK-ON, I HAVE SEEN -- I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO
10:51:08AM EXAMPLES, BUT I HAVE SEEN BAD THINGS COME IN WITH WALK-INs.
10:51:13AM I KNOW I AM VERY SUSPICIOUS OF THEM AND THE WALK-ONES.
10:51:18AM I AM VERY SUSPICIOUS OF THEM AND THE PUBLIC IS ESPECIALLY
10:51:23AM SUSPICIOUS OF THEM WITH BIG NUMBERS.
10:51:26AM A HURRICANE AND YOU NEED TO SIGN A SPECIAL CONTRACT FOR A
10:51:31AM VENDOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT IS ONE THING.
10:51:33AM SOME OF THOSE THINGS CAUSE THE PUBLIC NOT TO TRUST
10:51:40AM ADMINISTRATION.
10:51:41AM WE SUPPORT IT, THE PUBLIC DOESN'T TRUST US.
10:51:44AM I SUGGEST THAT WE NOT USE WALK-ONES AT ALL UNLESS WE
10:51:48AM ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO AND EXPLAIN WHAT THE URGENCY IS AND BE AS
10:51:54AM TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE.
10:51:55AM >>JOHN BENNETT: FEEDBACK REAL QUICK ON THAT.
10:51:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO AHEAD, CHIEF.
10:52:01AM >>JOHN BENNETT: WE HAVE A HARD DATE.
10:52:03AM MEMOS ON THE TUESDAY THE WEEK BEFORE.
10:52:06AM THE BACK-UP MATERIAL SETTLING LIKE YOU DISCUSSED.
10:52:09AM PRESENTATIONS IN THE WEEK BEFORE TO COMPARE THE BACK-UP TO
10:52:12AM IT THE PRESENTATIONS.
10:52:13AM AND SO, OF COURSE, THE POWERPOINTS BUT WILL -- I AM NOT AN
10:52:18AM EXCUSE MAKER.
10:52:21AM THAT IS NOT MY NATURE.
10:52:23AM THE VOLUME OF THE SKILL THAT THIS CITY, THE COUNCIL,
10:52:26AM ADMINISTRATION AND ALL THE LEADERSHIP AND PUBLIC SUPPORT SR.
10:52:29AM DOING THINGS EXPONENTIALLY UNDER UNIQUE CONDITIONS SO THOSE
10:52:37AM WALK-ONES ARE ON ME.
10:52:39AM THE MATERIAL AND THE TIMING AND SO YOU KNOW AGAIN, THAT WAS
10:52:46AM PART OF THE MEMO WE TRY TO AVOID WALK-ONES AT ALL COST.
10:52:51AM A HOUSING THING MAY COME UP OR SOMETHING THAT IS CRITICAL TO
10:52:54AM THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD, BUT I WILL USE
10:52:58AM MORE JUDGMENT OFTEN THAT TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS THE STANDARD
10:53:02AM OF WHAT YOU ARE ASKING REALLY THAT FALLS ALL ON MY
10:53:11AM SHOULDERS.
10:53:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:53:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE FOLLOW-UP.
10:53:16AM YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY IS THE
10:53:19AM PREEMPTIVE ANSWERING OF QUESTIONS THAT ARE OBVIOUS THAT THE
10:53:22AM PUBLIC WILL ASK AND WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS OWNERS IN
10:53:28AM TAMPA, THANK GOODNESS WHICH IS DRIVING OUR ECONOMY.
10:53:31AM AND CERTAIN EXPECTATIONS THAT BUSINESS OWNER ALSO HAVE.
10:53:34AM EQUIVALENT TO HANNA STREET OR HANNA AVENUE.
10:53:40AM WHERE YOU PUT $7.5 MILLION.
10:53:43AM AND SO YOU CALL IT THE BUSINESS CASE.
10:53:46AM ANYTHING THAT WE CAN TO DO ANTICIPATE THE BUSINESS CASE.
10:53:52AM WHAT HAPPENS IS ON THE PERSPECTIVE FOR GOVERNMENT PROJECT
10:53:58AM MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE ARE SOFTBALL QUESTIONS AND THE
10:54:01AM ANSWERS AREN'T GIVEN.
10:54:03AM AND THEN AFTER THE FACT, PEOPLE TELL ME THEY ARE THERE.
10:54:07AM YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR TWO AGO, I ASKED THE WATER HE DEPARTMENT
10:54:11AM WHAT IS YOUR OPERATING COST FOR YOUR LARGEST ASSETS OF THE
10:54:16AM WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND EVERYBODY AROUND THE TABLE DIDN'T
10:54:19AM KNOW THE ANSWER AND AFTERWARDS, SOMEBODY TOLD ME WE KNEW WE
10:54:22AM DIDN'T WANT TO -- THAT KIND OF INFORMATION IS SOMETHING THAT
10:54:26AM WOULD BE REASONABLY EXPECTED TO BE ASKED.
10:54:29AM YOU KNOW THE 30-YEAR COST OF A PLANT, THAT IS A REASONABLE
10:54:33AM QUESTION THAT SOMEBODY WOULD ASK.
10:54:35AM THE MORE YOU CAN ANTICIPATE THE BUSINESS CASE, THE
10:54:37AM REASONABLE QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE ASK, PUT THOSE IN THERE
10:54:40AM BECAUSE SHOWS WE ARE THOROUGH AND TRANSPARENT AND MAKES IT
10:54:43AM EASIER FOR US TO SAY YES.
10:54:45AM THANK YOU.
10:54:45AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU AND -- I AM SORRY.
10:54:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF.
10:54:49AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO EVERYBODY'S
10:54:52AM QUESTIONS AND THOUGHTS.
10:54:53AM ONE THING THAT HELPS STAFF AND I TRY TO ALLUDE THAT IN THE
10:55:00AM SAME MEMO AND OFFERING A CHANCE WHEN A MOTION IS MADE FOR
10:55:06AM STAFF TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT CAPACITY TO GET IT DONE IN A
10:55:09AM TIMELY MANNER AND MAKE SURE AT THIS TIMING OF THE MOTION IS
10:55:13AM ACTIONABLE PART OF THE REASON WE HAVE SET UP.
10:55:19AM START WITH COVID IN THAT CONFERENCE ROOM AND AFTER COVID OF
10:55:24AM A VIRTUAL -- THE FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL OF THE SPECIAL BRIEFS
10:55:29AM ON THE BIGGER ITEMS OR THE WEEKLY BRIEFING BEFORE HELPS US
10:55:35AM FIVE THAT FEEDBOOK LOOP.
10:55:38AM AND SOMETHING WE GET ON THOSE BRIEFS TELL US THAT WE NEED TO
10:55:42AM PAUSE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER.
10:55:43AM THAT WILL BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
10:55:47AM AND I WOULD LIKE TO HOPE AND I BELIEVE IT IS TRUE THAT STAFF
10:55:50AM HAS IN ALL PORTFOLIOS HIGHLY RESPONSIVE TO THESE QUESTIONS.
10:55:55AM WHETHER THEY ARE SEEN EARLY, MIDSTREAM OR RATES.
10:55:58AM THOSE BRIEFS ARE REALLY A BIG ADVANTAGE TO US TO MAKE SURE
10:56:03AM WE DO VERY WELL ON TEAM DAY LIKE TODAY THAT THE PUBLIC IS
10:56:07AM HEARING EVERYTHING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
10:56:10AM ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL CAN TO DO SUPPORT THAT JOURNEY IS
10:56:13AM APPRECIATED.
10:56:13AM THANK YOU.
10:56:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:56:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.
10:56:20AM I GENERALLY LIKE TO SIT DOWN OVER THE WEEKEND AND READ
10:56:23AM THROUGH NOT ONLY THE AGENDA BUT ALL THE DOCUMENTATION AND I
10:56:28AM KEEP NOTES FOR QUESTIONS FOR MY -- FOR MY WEEKLY BRIEFING OR
10:56:33AM MY STANDING MEETING.
10:56:34AM AND MY STANDING MEETING IS TUESDAY.
10:56:39AM THIS WEEK -- I OFTEN HAVE NOTES -- AND IT SAYS NO REPORT, NO
10:56:44AM REPORT, NO REPORT.
10:56:45AM IF YOU SAY YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE US A REPORT, I WANT TO READ
10:56:48AM THE REPORT A AHEAD OF TIME.
10:56:51AM I AM DOING THIS, AND DOING THAT.
10:56:53AM IT COMES TO ME -- LIKE I REQUESTED DURING -- DURING MY
10:56:57AM MEETING THIS WEEK THAT RFQs BE ADDED BECAUSE NUMBER FIVE,
10:57:02AM THE DESIGN-BUILD.
10:57:03AM WE GET ALL THE INFORMATION FOR OUR NORMAL PURCHASES SO I GOT
10:57:12AM IT YESTERDAY AND IT IS THIS THICK.
10:57:13AM I DID ANY BEST TO SCAN IT AND I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO READ IT
10:57:17AM LIKE I WANTED TO.
10:57:18AM MR. BAIRD WAS WONDERFUL AND HE SAID THEY HAVE TALKED ABOUT
10:57:24AM ADDING THESE IN THE FUTURE WHICH IS GREAT.
10:57:26AM BUT THAT IS AN EXAMPLE.
10:57:28AM AND OF COURSE THE LITTERING.
10:57:30AM I HAVE GOTTEN FOUR E-MAILS OVER THE LAST OVERNIGHT ABOUT THE
10:57:35AM VIDEO THAT WASN'T AVAILABLE.
10:57:37AM THAT KIND OF STUFF THAT WE NEED IT AHEAD OF TIME.
10:57:43AM IF IT IS NOT IN TIME FOR OUR MEETING, WE -- MAYBE IT
10:57:47AM SHOULDN'T BE ON THE AGENDA.
10:57:52AM IT'S A FRUSTRATION ESPECIALLY WITH THINGS THAT I KNOW WILL
10:57:56AM BE HOT BUTTON ISSUES THAT THE ADMINISTRATION SHOULD KNOW ARE
10:57:59AM HOT BUTTON ISSUES.
10:58:00AM I KNOW IT IS ALWAYS A CONSTANT IMPROVEMENT, BUT I WILL
10:58:04AM ABSOLUTELY SAY --
10:58:08AM [INAUDIBLE]
10:58:08AM -- SO IT DOESN'T GIVE US TIME, IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T GIVE THE
10:58:16AM PUBLIC TIME.
10:58:17AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK.
10:58:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU NEED ANY ACTION TAKEN TODAY ON AGENDA
10:58:26AM ITEM NUMBER 27?
10:58:29AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:58:30AM IN IS WHY YOU ARE MOTION.
10:58:31AM DOES THIS SATISFY YOUR MOTION.
10:58:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF, TALK OF 24.
10:58:39AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24.
10:58:41AM >>JOHN BENNETT: CORRECT.
10:58:42AM I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN CARLSON SUPPORTING THE IDEA OF
10:58:47AM BRINGING THIS BACK.
10:58:48AM AND I THINK THE PRESENTATION WILL HELP.
10:58:55AM I THINK TO COUNCILMAN GUDES' POINT ABOUT HANNA.
10:58:59AM I WANT TO CONJOIN WHAT I WILL SHOW BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY
10:59:03AM WHAT STAFF HAS WORKED ON AND THE MAYOR HAS ENCOURAGED IN
10:59:07AM THIS CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT PROCESS THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
10:59:11AM JUST TALKED ABOUT IS MAKING SURE IT EVERYTHING IS IN THE --
10:59:15AM IN THE SPACE WHEN WE COME FORWARD TO COUNCIL.
10:59:18AM AND SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT KIND OF HOW WE ENTER THE
10:59:22AM ADMINISTRATION AND ALL THE GOOD WORK THAT IS DONE.
10:59:25AM AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO BUILD ON THAT.
10:59:27AM I WILL THROW SOMETHING ON THE OVERHEAD.
10:59:29AM IN THE SPIRIT OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT JOURNEYS THAT ARE THOSE
10:59:39AM BIGGER TICKET ITEMS THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TALKED ABOUT
10:59:43AM AND COUNCILMAN GUDES TALKED ABOUT AS WELL AS COUNCILMAN
10:59:47AM CARLSON.
10:59:47AM THERE WE GO.
10:59:48AM SO PRIOR TO THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THE MIDYEAR HAPPENS OUT OF
10:59:52AM THE CFO'S OFFICE AND ISN'T THAT RIGHT THAT PLANNING CYCLE,
10:59:58AM MARCH, APRIL SPACE.
10:59:59AM A LOT OF PLANNING DISCUSSIONS AND WORKSHOPS THAT ARE GOING
11:00:03AM ON AND WE HAVE DONE WELL CREATE THE INCREASE OF THOSE AND
11:00:08AM THE INFORMATION SHOWING ONE-OFF BRIEFS OR IN THE SUNSHINE IN
11:00:13AM ROOM AND AGAIN ON THE AGENDA TO IMPROVE OUR RELATIONSHIP AND
11:00:19AM WORKING MODEL WITH THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY GROUP WHICH
11:00:23AM ANOTHER CHECKPOINT LEADING INTO THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS TO
11:00:28AM ADOPT THE BUDGET.
11:00:30AM THE ADMINISTRATION WHEN THEY COMES FORWARD LIKE ON THE EAST
11:00:34AM TAMPA REC CENTER, THAT IS THE ISOLATED SPECIFIC PRESENTATION
11:00:38AM FOR THAT SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM AND NOW IN THE CONTRACT PHASE
11:00:42AM AND KIND OF IN THE HISTORICAL RUN.
11:00:44AM WHAT I WANT TO DO IS TALK WHAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN THE
11:00:48AM WORKSHOPS.
11:00:48AM AGAIN WITH ALL THE LISTENING SESSIONS AND I LIKE TO SIT
11:00:53AM THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT AND HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY.
11:00:55AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WORKSHOPED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL
11:00:59AM WEEKS WHICH IS WHY I WANTED TO CONSIDER A CONTINUANCE ON
11:01:03AM ITEMS 24 AND 26.
11:01:05AM AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY BUT GOING BACK TO
11:01:12AM THIS GRAPHIC ON THE LEFT SIDE AND WE CAN PICK ANY PROJECT,
11:01:15AM THERE WILL BE A CITY OWNER OF THAT PROJECT, AND TIED TO THE
11:01:18AM ADDRESS.
11:01:18AM FOR EXAMPLE, THE EAST TAMPA CENTER OCEA WYNN THE
11:01:24AM ADMINISTRATOR.
11:01:25AM SHERISHA WILL BE THE OWNER OF THAT PROJECT, THE FACE OF THE
11:01:30AM PROJECT.
11:01:30AM BECAUSE IN THE END, IT IS A PARK.
11:01:31AM BUT EQUALLY IMPORTANT IS WHERE THE CFO FITS IN FOR THE
11:01:36AM FINANCING PART.
11:01:37AM AND WHERE LEGAL FITS IN TO MAKE SURE WE ARE WITHIN THE
11:01:41AM BOUNDARIES OF THE CODE, THE LAW AND ALL THE REGULATIONS.
11:01:44AM THE REASON I CAUGHT IT THE GREAT EIGHT, THE THREE IN THE
11:01:49AM PYRAMID.
11:01:50AM AND YOU MOVE TO THE RIGHT OF THE GRAPHIC, THE ENHANCEMENTS
11:01:53AM -- BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE HAVE BEEN MORE OF A REACTIONARY
11:01:56AM PHASE.
11:01:56AM AND WE BRING THESE FOLKS TO THE TABLE WHEN WE MAKE THE
11:01:59AM BUSINESS CASE GO WITH THE RFP AND RFQ THROUGH THE PROJECT
11:02:08AM MANAGEMENT PHASE.
11:02:09AM THE SUPPORT NUMBER ONE IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
11:02:12AM COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT HAS TO BE THREADED THROUGH THE ENTIRE
11:02:16AM THING AND THEY HAVE REALLY GIVEN GREAT FEEDBACK OF HOW TO
11:02:20AM BOLSTER THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN ALL THE THREE PHASES,
11:02:24AM MAKING THE BUSINESS CASE, MAKING SURE THE PHASE GOES WELL,
11:02:28AM AND EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT
11:02:31AM MANAGEMENT AND THE TIMING OF THE PROJECT IS ON POINT FOR
11:02:34AM PUBLIC AND, OF COURSE, FOR THE FINANCIAL ASPECTS.
11:02:37AM THE DESIGN-BUILD AND WHAT WAS JUST SAID IN SOME PUBLIC
11:02:41AM COMMENT A FEW MINUTES AGO IS ABOUT THE PLACEMAKER.
11:02:44AM AND ADMINISTRATOR DUNCAN HAS TALKED ABOUT THAT.
11:02:50AM NOT JUST FAIR OAKS BUT THE MOBILITY AROUND FAIR OAKS.
11:02:52AM ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AROUND FAIR OAKS.
11:02:55AM I HAVE BEEN AT MEETINGS WITH NICOLE TRAVIS WHERE WE ARE
11:02:58AM TALKING OF THE BIG PROJECTS AND WHAT IT WILL DO IN BOTH A
11:03:01AM POSITIVE AND, OF COURSE, THERE ARE SOME OTHER WAY IN THE
11:03:04AM COMMUNITY.
11:03:04AM AND NOT JUST THE DESIGN FOOTPRINT BUT WHAT DOES IT MAKE TO
11:03:11AM PUT PLACE MAKING THROUGH IT.
11:03:12AM AND THAT WILL BE THREADED THROUGH ALL THREE OF THE PHASES.
11:03:16AM NEXT SOMETHING WE WILL SEE AND CELEBRATED WITH US, THE
11:03:22AM PROJECT.
11:03:22AM IT HAS BEEN A LOT OF GOOD FRONT END WORK OF READY, WILLING
11:03:30AM AND ABLE OF BUSINESSES INVOLVED NOT ONLY AS SUBS BY AS
11:03:33AM PRIMES.
11:03:34AM THAT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW, BUT THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS IS
11:03:37AM TO, AGAIN, HAVE ALL THESE FOLKS AT THE TABLE THROUGH ALL
11:03:43AM THREE PHASES OF THE PROJECT.
11:03:44AM FOURTH IS APPRENTICESHIPSHIP.
11:03:47AM WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE COUNCIL MAKE SURE WE HAVE CODE AND
11:03:51AM ACCOUNTABILITY THAT ALL THE WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT THROUGH
11:03:53AM APPRENTICESHIP AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THREADED THROUGH
11:03:56AM PROJECTS.
11:03:59AM JUST DELIVERING THE PROJECT.
11:04:01AM ONGOING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE CITY.
11:04:06AM AND RESILIENCE IN EVERY SINGLE THING THAT WE DO.
11:04:11AM THE ONLY WAY WE WILL MAKE SURE WE HAVE A RESILIENT TAMPA
11:04:16AM GOING FORWARD IS PROJECT BY PROJECT.
11:04:18AM AROUND THE TABLE LONG BEFORE THE BUSINESS CASE IS MADE AND A
11:04:23AM TOOLKIT THAT WE BOUGHT INTO THAT WITH THE ROI AND DOES IT IN
11:04:32AM A FORMULAIC WAY BEFORE WE KNOW THE ROI BEFORE IT COMES TO
11:04:36AM COUNCIL AND ALL OF THOSE DEEP QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED OVER
11:04:38AM THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND ENSURE THAT THESE GRADE A FOLKS
11:04:44AM MOVE THROUGH THIS ENTIRE THING.
11:04:46AM AS THE BUSINESS CASE IS MADE.
11:04:48AM AS THE BUSINESS CASE IS PRESENTED.
11:04:50AM AS THE CONTRACT IS PUT OUT TO BID.
11:04:52AM AS THE IS ACCEPTED AND NEGOTIATED.
11:04:54AM AND THE ENTIRE PROJECT MANAGEMENT PHASE.
11:04:57AM WE THINK THAT THIS WILL SERVE THOSE FOUR CATEGORIES THAT HI
11:05:02AM TALK ABOUT CONSTANTLY AND WHY THIS PROJECT IS IMPORTANT TO
11:05:04AM THEM.
11:05:05AM OUR PERSONNEL AND HOW THAT IMPACTS OUR PERSONNEL SERVICING
11:05:09AM THE PROJECT.
11:05:10AM HOW IT WORKS WITH OUR PARTNERS BECAUSE THEY ARE INVOLVED IN
11:05:16AM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT WITH THE CITY AND, OF
11:05:18AM COURSE, THE POLICYMAKERS WHICH ARE THE EIGHT ELECTED
11:05:21AM OFFICIALS.
11:05:24AM SO I FEEL THIS COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH IS TWO THINGS WHICH IS
11:05:27AM WHERE MY ASK COMES IN.
11:05:29AM AS FAR AS THE HANNA PROJECT GOES, WE APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S
11:05:33AM SUPPORT ON THAT THROUGH WHERE WE ARE NOW.
11:05:35AM AND QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED AND MY REQUEST OF COUNCIL IS TO
11:05:44AM HAVE TWO-TIME-A-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
11:05:49AM THE REASON I AM PICKING THESE.
11:05:50AM ONE WILL BE FROM OCTOBER AND ONE WILL BE IN APRIL.
11:05:53AM I WILL TELL YOU WHY.
11:05:54AM FIRST OF ALL, THERE IS TYPICALLY NO WORKSHOPS ELIGIBLE IN
11:05:58AM NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.
11:05:59AM THANKSGIVING AND THEN THE HOLIDAYS IN LATE DECEMBER.
11:06:01AM SO OCTOBER IS TYPICALLY THE LAST OPPORTUNITY FOR A WORKSHOP.
11:06:05AM IF WE ANCHOR OCTOBER AS THE FIRST POINT IN CAPITAL
11:06:10AM IMPROVEMENT UPDATES FOR COUNCIL.
11:06:12AM AND THEN APRIL COMES RIGHT AFTER THE MIDYEAR WHICH IS MARCH
11:06:16AM AND THIS DOES TWO THING.
11:06:17AM AND SEE ALL OF THE METRICS ASSOCIATED AND THE QUALITY
11:06:23AM CONTROL IN THESE EIGHT AIR GRASS AND ALSO A SPRINGBOARD FOR
11:06:27AM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND
11:06:30AM THAT GIVES A GREAT FEEDBACK LOOP BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION,
11:06:34AM COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE BRING IT
11:06:37AM FORWARD, WE ARE ALL SINGING OFF THE SAME SHEET MUSIC ABOUT
11:06:40AM THESE CATEGORIES.
11:06:41AM AND THEN SO THE REQUEST TODAY SPECIFICALLY THAT THE HANNA
11:06:51AM UPDATE BE MOVED TO NEXT THURSDAY AND WHAT IS ALREADY
11:06:53AM EXISTING FOR HANNA'S -- AND SOME OTHER THINGS AND GIVE A
11:06:57AM CHANCE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO TALK THROUGH THIS
11:07:00AM HOLISTICALLY.
11:07:01AM THE SECOND THING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP REGARDING THE $20
11:07:05AM MILLION IN DOUBLE PUBLIC HEARING IS THE IDEA THAT IF WE GO
11:07:10AM THROUGH THIS NEXT SIX MONTHS TOGETHER AND USE OCTOBER AS THE
11:07:14AM ANCHOR POINT FOR UPDATES AND THEN COME BACK IN APRIL, I AM
11:07:17AM NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THE MOTION OR STOP THE MOTION, BUT WE
11:07:20AM THINK THAT THERE IS A LOT OF PROJECTS OF 20 MILLION THAT
11:07:24AM REQUIRE THIS LEVEL OF ENERGY.
11:07:25AM SO THE METHODOLOGY TO HIT 20 MILLION, WHILE THAT IS KINDS OF
11:07:30AM A RARE NUMBER TO HIT IN THE CITY FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
11:07:33AM PROJECT, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THINGS $3 MILLION, $5
11:07:38AM MILLION, $7 MILLION.
11:07:39AM OUR REQUEST FOR COUNCIL WILL BE, LET'S TPD THAT MOTION IN
11:07:43AM PLACE UNTIL THE APRIL WORKSHOP.
11:07:47AM IF WE DON'T SATISFY THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THE PUBLIC
11:07:52AM INTERFACE ON ALL THESE AREAS WE TALK ABOUT, THEN WE CAN
11:07:55AM REVISITED THE MOTION.
11:07:57AM THOSE ARE THE TWO POINTS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ON THE TWO
11:08:00AM AGENDA ITEMS.
11:08:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:08:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: I APPRECIATE THE SUGGESTION ON THE
11:08:05AM WORKSHOPS.
11:08:06AM I THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.
11:08:07AM BUT I THINK IT IS -- LOOKING AT THE CAPITAL BUDGET WILL GIVE
11:08:12AM THE PUBLIC A LONGER CHANCE TO REVIEW BUT I THINK EVEN ON
11:08:20AM SMALL LAND USE ISSUES WE HAVE TO HEAR THEM TWICE.
11:08:23AM AND SOMETIMES WE GET INFORMATION IN BETWEEN THE DISCUSSIONS
11:08:28AM THAT IS VALUABLE TO THE SECOND HEARING.
11:08:30AM ON -- ON HANNA AVENUE, WE APPROVED IT.
11:08:34AM AND THEN EITHER THE TIME AFTER IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:08:38AM SOMEONE CAME BEFORE US AND SAID IT DIDN'T HIT MBE GUIDELINES
11:08:43AM AND DIDN'T HIT APPRENTICESHIP GUIDELINES AND WASN'T PUT OUT
11:08:48AM FOR BID AND LED FOR LONGER DISCUSSIONS.
11:08:50AM HAD WE HAD A SECOND HEARING WE WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO ANSWER
11:08:57AM THOSE QUESTIONS AND HAD TO DO WITH MEDIA AND OTHER KINDS OF
11:09:01AM SCRUTINY.
11:09:01AM I PICKED $20 MILLION AS AN ARBITRARY NUMBER.
11:09:04AM BUT APRIL IS AFTER THE ELECTION.
11:09:06AM AND I THINK WHEN WE PUT THINGS OUT TO THE ELECTION, THE
11:09:09AM PUBLIC ASKS US A QUESTION WHY WE ARE PUTTING THINGS OUT TO
11:09:13AM ELECTION.
11:09:13AM THE OTHER THING IS A SIMPLE PROCESS.
11:09:20AM MAKE YOU AND I CAN TALK AND LET'S TALK EARLY TO SEE IF WE
11:09:30AM CAN GET A PROCESS.
11:09:31AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I APOLOGIZE.
11:09:33AM I THINK OF THE SEQUENCE AND I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT.
11:09:36AM IF COUNCIL WANTED IT AHEAD OF THAT THE WORKSHOP IN FEBRUARY
11:09:41AM AND JANUARY PUT IT PAST MARCH AND RUNOFF IN MAY.
11:09:49AM PUT IT PAST MARCH, PEOPLE WILL SAY ARE YOU TRYING TO NOT BE
11:09:54AM TRANSPARENT.
11:09:55AM WHEN DO YOU REMEDIES OR JANUARY.
11:09:57AM >> DURING THE PROCESS, A HOUSING UPDATE WHICH IS CRITICALLY
11:10:02AM IMPORTANT.
11:10:02AM AND I THINK A GOOD -- YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF COUNCIL IS WILLING
11:10:07AM TO ACCOMMODATE MY REQUEST TO HAVE TWO ANCHOR POINTS AND
11:10:11AM ADAPTING TO THE ELECTION CYCLE BY MOVING IT TO JANUARY, I
11:10:15AM THINK WE CAN SHOW A GREAT EFFORT TOWARD UPDATING THIS
11:10:18AM INFORMATION FROM THE BEGINNING IN JANUARY.
11:10:21AM SO I -- I REQUESTED TO COME BACK IN JANUARY'S WORKSHOP.
11:10:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: JANUARY WORKSHOP.
11:10:28AM I DON'T SEE ONE TAMPA 26 -- OKAY.
11:10:31AM SO I WILL MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 24 FILE NUMBER CM 22-7692 TO
11:10:39AM THE WORKSHOP ON JANUARY 26.
11:10:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:10:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
11:10:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:10:46AM THE JANUARY 26 WORKSHOP.
11:10:51AM IS IT SPECIFICALLY FOR THEN -- NOT ONLY THIS ITEM BUT THE
11:10:55AM PROCESS.
11:10:55AM HOW WOULD YOU WANT TO FRAME FOR -- FOR THE CAPITAL
11:10:58AM IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
11:10:59AM I THINK YOUR DISCUSSION --
11:11:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: A SEPARATE.
11:11:02AM I AM JUST ASKING TO MOVE ITEM 24.
11:11:05AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK MY REQUEST WHICH I APPRECIATE THE
11:11:09AM COMMENDATION -- IS KEEP THE MOTION INTACT, AND OUR
11:11:15AM CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WILL ENGULF THAT IN A
11:11:18AM DIFFERENT MANNER AS WE GO FORWARD.
11:11:20AM AS WE GIVE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT UPDATE, COUNCIL WILL
11:11:24AM DECIDE TO KEEP THE THRESHOLD AS A GOOD JUMPING OFF POINT.
11:11:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: DID I GET A SECOND?
11:11:32AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY POINT IN RAISING THIS THAT MR. ROGERO IS
11:11:37AM HERE AND MR. MASSEY IS ALSO HERE.
11:11:39AM THE CONCEPT OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THE
11:11:43AM DISCUSSION CAME UP AT THE BUDGET AND FINANCE ADVISORY
11:11:48AM COMMITTEE AND THE PLANNING FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN
11:11:51AM ALSO TAKES PLACE DURING THE YEAR AND CHANGES BETWEEN ONE
11:11:54AM FIVE-YEAR PLAN DEPENDING ON THE ECONOMY AND THE SITUATION
11:11:57AM AND THE FOLLOWING.
11:11:58AM AND I THINK FOR EDIFICATION WITH REGARDS TO HAVING IT IN
11:12:07AM APRIL.
11:12:07AM AND I DON'T THINK -- AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT IS WHAT IS
11:12:19AM GOING TO BE FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN
11:12:23AM AND EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE OR ECONOMY AND WHAT
11:12:27AM CONSTRUCTION COST WILL FORWARD CHANGES IN THE CAPITAL
11:12:30AM IMPROVEMENT PLAN WHEN THE MAYOR PRESENTS IT.
11:12:33AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I AM NOT SUGGESTING TO UNDO APRIL, BUT THAT
11:12:37AM WE WILL DO ONE IN JANUARY TO MEET THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL TO
11:12:40AM BE AHEAD OF THE ELECTION CYCLE.
11:12:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: MY MOTION -- MY MOTION IS ONLY FOR 24.
11:12:46AM IF WE NEED TO MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION ON THAT.
11:12:48AM I AM HAPPY TO.
11:12:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR
11:12:53AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:12:54AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:12:56AM DO WE WANT A ROLL CALL WITH THAT.
11:13:03AM ANY OPPOSED.
11:13:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE ONE MORE.
11:13:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:13:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: ITEM NUMBER 26.
11:13:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY, DOES -- DOES THAT SATISFY YOUR MOTION
11:13:17AM ON ITEM 24?
11:13:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW IF MR. BENNETT NEEDS A SEPARATE
11:13:25AM MOTION ON HIS ITEM.
11:13:26AM YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
11:13:28AM >>JOHN BENNETT: AS WE GET TO 26, MY MOTION REQUEST WOULD BE
11:13:32AM TO MOVE IT TO OCTOBER 27 AND MATCH UP THE MOTIONS AT THE
11:13:35AM WORKSHOP.
11:13:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A COMMENT WITH THE WHOLE DISCUSSION YOU
11:13:44AM JUST HAD.
11:13:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I REPEATED ON HANNA PROJECT AND
11:13:52AM FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC.
11:13:53AM I THINK COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND COUNCILMAN CITRO SAID WHY
11:13:59AM DON'T YOU GET OUTSIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT OR LAWSUIT AND THAT.
11:14:03AM AND YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY, WE ARE HERE TO PROTECT THE CITY
11:14:07AM AND THE TAXPAYER MONEY.
11:14:10AM BUT I ASKED MY ATTORNEYS HOW DO WE ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS
11:14:13AM ABOUT THINGS LIKE HANNA AVENUE.
11:14:15AM I AM ASKED ABOUT HANNA AVENUE ALMOST EVERY DAY.
11:14:18AM I HEAR FROM EAST TAMPA THEY DON'T WANT IT.
11:14:21AM THEY DON'T SEE A BENEFIT.
11:14:22AM I HEAR FROM SOUTH TAMPA, THAT THEY THINK THE PROCESS WAS NOT
11:14:25AM FAIR.
11:14:25AM THE CITY ATTORNEY CAME UP WITH A CCNA REVIEW THAT SAID IT
11:14:30AM WAS HANDLED CORRECTLY, BUT WE -- I AM JUST GOING TO GIVE A
11:14:37AM SUGGESTION.
11:14:37AM AND NOT MAKE A MOTION.
11:14:38AM WE NEED TO GET FROM UNDERNEATH THE CLOUD OF THIS.
11:14:41AM SEVERAL WAYS WE CAN DO IT.
11:14:42AM ONE THAT HAS BEEN HANDLED IN THE PAST THAT THE CITY EASTERN
11:14:45AM TO HIRES AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY TO REVIEW.
11:14:48AM BUT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T TRUST IT, BECAUSE SOMEBODY TOO CLOSE
11:14:51AM TO THE CITY.
11:14:51AM ANOTHER WAY IS TO GET A JUDGE TO REVIEW IT.
11:14:54AM BUT TO GET A JUDGE, WE WOULD HAVE TO FILE A LAWSUIT AND THAT
11:14:57AM WOULD TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
11:14:58AM THE THIRD OPTION THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THE ATTORNEY
11:15:04AM GENERAL GIVES OPINIONS ON ISSUES LIKE THIS.
11:15:06AM I CANNOT AS AN INDIVIDUAL ASK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR AN
11:15:13AM OPINION.
11:15:13AM THE CITY COUNCIL CAN ASK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR AN OPINION
11:15:17AM OR THE ADMINISTRATION CAN ASK A ATTORNEY GENERAL.
11:15:19AM BUT OST JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY AND CONFIDENCE OF THE PUBLIC,
11:15:23AM IF THE VIEWS OF THE IF THE VIEWS OF THE CITY ATTORNEY ARE
11:15:27AM CORRECT, THEN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WILL COME BACK AFTER A
11:15:30AM REVIEW AND SAY, YES, WE AGREE WITH THE CCNA PROCESS AND I
11:15:36AM CAN -- ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CRITICIZE IT AND SAY, YES,
11:15:41AM EVEN FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO IS SEPARATE IN TALLAHASSEE
11:15:44AM NOT FROM HERE REVIEWED IT AND SHE SAYS IT IS FINE.
11:15:47AM IF SHE SAYS IT IS NOT FINE, WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE
11:15:50AM FINDS ARE.
11:15:51AM SEEMS LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY IS VERY CONFIDENT THAT IT IS
11:15:56AM BUT JUST RECOMMEND THAT THE ADMINISTRATION PROACTIVELY LOOK
11:15:59AM AT THAT AS THE OFFICIAL REVIEW TO GET FROM UNDERNEATH THE
11:16:03AM CLOUD.
11:16:03AM THANK YOU.
11:16:03AM >>JOHN BENNETT: UNDERSTOOD.
11:16:06AM MY FEEDBACK IT TWO PARTS.
11:16:09AM MY GRAPHIC -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN BRING IT UP ON THE
11:16:13AM OVERHEAD.
11:16:13AM IMPORTANT TO GET THE GRADE A AROUND THE TABLE FOR ALL THREE
11:16:17AM PHASES.
11:16:17AM SOLIDIFY THE BUSINESS CASE IN THE ROI.
11:16:21AM TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT IS UP THERE IN THE HOLISTIC
11:16:24AM MANNER AS WE GO TO CONTRACT AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT.
11:16:28AM SECOND PART OF MY COMMENT IS TO ADDRESS THAT.
11:16:33AM I APPRECIATE MOVING THIS TO POTENTIALLY TO NEXT THURSDAY'S
11:16:36AM DISCUSSION TO HAVE A HOLISTIC WORKSHOP DISCUSSION ABOUT A
11:16:39AM MAJOR PROJECT.
11:16:40AM BUT APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK AS WELL.
11:16:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GETTING BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 24, ARE YOU
11:16:48AM REQUESTING THAT THIS COUNCIL STILL MAKE MOTION TO HAVE TWO
11:16:53AM MEETINGS A YEAR, ONE IN OCTOBER AND NOW ONE IN FEBRUARY?
11:16:57AM >>JOHN BENNETT: MY UNDERSTANDING THAT -- AS IT SITS, IT HAS
11:17:00AM BEEN CONTINUED TO JANUARY WHERE WE WILL GIVE OUR FIRST
11:17:04AM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT UPDATE TO SHOW THAT WHETHER WE NEED A
11:17:08AM METHODOLOGY, KEEP THE METHODOLOGY OR ALL BAKED INTO THE
11:17:13AM PROCESS WHICH IS MY RECOMMENDATION AND HOPE IS THAT IT WILL
11:17:17AM SATISFY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT AND ANOTHER STANDARD.
11:17:21AM SING IT STAYS AS IT IS AND ADDRESS THAT IN JANUARY.
11:17:28AM WE WANT TO HAVE SETTLE ON OCTOBER AND APRIL, SIX-MONTH SEMI
11:17:33AM ANNUAL CIP UPDATE AND ALSO I APPRECIATE SOME OF THE
11:17:38AM CONVERSATIONS DURING THE BRIEFS THAT SAY THINGS COME UP
11:17:41AM DURING THAT SIX-MONTH PERIOD FROM CONSTITUENTS.
11:17:44AM IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO GET IT INTO THE WORKSHOP.
11:17:48AM WE CAN EITHER HAVE A MEETING WITH THE SPECIAL INTEREST
11:17:51AM GROUP, WHATEVER THE CASE IS, OR IF THE MOTION CAN BE HANDLED
11:17:57AM BASICALLY IN ISOLATION, WE CAN HANDLE THE MOTION.
11:18:00AM WE GET THE CIP ANCHOR POINTS DOWN, IT WILL SMOOTH OUT
11:18:03AM EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING.
11:18:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DOES THAT SATISFY YOUR
11:18:08AM MOTION.
11:18:09AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVING 24.
11:18:10AM THE ONLY QUESTION THOUGH, YOU ASKED FOR THESE TWO MEETINGS.
11:18:13AM DO WE NEED --
11:18:15AM >>JOHN BENNETT: MOTION FOR A CIP UPDATE IN JANUARY.
11:18:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL MOVE TO -- SEPARATE FROM 24, BUT --
11:18:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SEPARATE MOTION?
11:18:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: SEPARATE MOTION.
11:18:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS WHERE HE WAS I WAS GOING.
11:18:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU WANT TO HELP ME WITH A MOTION.
11:18:37AM MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TWO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS UPDATES WITH
11:18:40AM THE ADMINISTRATION TWICE A YEAR JANUARY --
11:18:47AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JANUARY 26 AND WHATEVER THE WORKSHOP IN
11:18:49AM APRIL.
11:18:49AM IF IT EXISTS ALREADY.
11:18:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: JANUARY 6 AND THE WORKSHOP IN APRIL.
11:18:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: APRIL 27.
11:18:58AM THANK YOU.
11:18:58AM A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:19:00AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:19:02AM ALL IN FAVOR.
11:19:03AM >>JOHN BENNETT: LASTLY JUST A FORMATION TO TAKE HANNA AND
11:19:12AM MOVE IT TO THE WORKSHOP NEXT THURSDAY.
11:19:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:19:16AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:19:18AM ALL IN FAVOR.
11:19:19AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOING BACK TO THE REPORT MATRIX.
11:19:42AM THE NEXT BUNDLE WILL COME FROM THE CFO ON ITEM --
11:19:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I BELIEVE THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES WANTED TO
11:19:52AM TALK OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 BECAUSE HE HAS A SPEAKER TO
11:19:56AM SPEAK TO THAT ALSO.
11:19:58AM >>JOHN BENNETT: OH, YEAH, THAT IS FINE.
11:20:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:20:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. BENNETT, ONE MORE QUESTION.
11:20:07AM YOU DID THIS MATRIX -- DO IT HOWEVER YOU THINK IS BEST, BUT
11:20:14AM I THINK IT IS EASIER IF YOU WENT AND CHANGE THE ORDER OF THE
11:20:18AM AGENDA IF THAT IS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE -- SO WHEN WE COME
11:20:21AM BACK IN WE DON'T HAVE TO FLIP BACK AND FORTH TO THE MATRIX.
11:20:24AM WE CAN DESIGN IT WHATEVER FORMAT.
11:20:27AM PUT THE OWNER NEXT TO IT.
11:20:30AM BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE CHART, BUT ORGANIZE THE AGENDA.
11:20:34AM >>JOHN BENNETT: WE AGREE AND WE WILL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
11:20:37AM MR. SHELBY AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE THE MEETING.
11:20:41AM THIS WAS A LAST-MINUTE RESPONSE AFTER AGENDA REVIEW.
11:20:45AM I STAYED LATE AND SAID LET'S HELP WITH 26 STAFF REPORTS.
11:20:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:20:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ENCOURAGED FOR OUR BENEFIT AND ALSO THE
11:20:54AM PUBLIC IF YOU ARE GOING TO GROUP THEM THAT WAY PUT THEM
11:20:58AM UNDER THE HEADING OF WHICH DEPARTMENT THEY MIGHT GO FOR AND
11:21:01AM FOLKS WILL EASILY SEE -- OH, EVEN ME, I AM TRYING TO LEARN
11:21:06AM WHAT GOES UNDER WHAT AND I THINK THAT WILL BE HELPFUL FOR
11:21:09AM THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
11:21:09AM SO THANK YOU.
11:21:11AM >>JOHN BENNETT: OUR GOAL IS GET THE AGENDA ALIGNED TO WE
11:21:15AM DON'T NEED THE MATRIX.
11:21:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE CHAIR'S
11:21:19AM REVIEW.
11:21:19AM CHIEF SAID LET ME TRY THIS OUT.
11:21:21AM NOTHING SET IN STONE, BUT THE CHIEF SAID HEY, THIS GREAT
11:21:27AM CONCEPT AND FOSTER THEM TOGETHER MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAVE TIME.
11:21:30AM >>JOHN BENNETT: ON THE RECORD, I DON'T KNOW IT WAS GREAT.
11:21:33AM BUT JUST AN IDEA TO HELP US GET THROUGH THE MORNING.
11:21:36AM SO ITEM NUMBER 4, I BELIEVE.
11:21:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM NUMBER 4.
11:21:39AM WHICH.
11:21:43AM >>JOHN BENNETT: STILL REQUESTED FOR A CONTINUANCE.
11:21:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BUT COUNCILMAN GUDES WANTS TO HAVE A
11:21:50AM DISCUSSION.
11:21:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, DIANE HART, 2912 NORTH 26th STREET.
11:21:59AM THIS IS MY HOUSING DIRECTOR, MISS VIRGIL.
11:22:03AM GIVE YOUR ADDRESS.
11:22:05AM >> EAST 32nd AVENUE.
11:22:07AM >> I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON THIS
11:22:10AM ITEM THIS MORNING.
11:22:11AM I THINK WE NEED TO BRING SOME CLARITY, BECAUSE EVERYBODY
11:22:15AM SEES EAST TAMPA BUSINESS AND CIVIC.
11:22:17AM THEY AUTOMATICALLY BELIEVE THAT EVERY DIME THAT COMES INTO
11:22:22AM EAST TAMPA BUSINESS AND CIVIC IS SPENT IN EAST TAMPA.
11:22:26AM SO I WANT PEOPLE UNDER STAND THAT WE ARE RUNNING A CITYWIDE
11:22:33AM PROGRAM AND I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU THE NUMBERS SO YOU CAN
11:22:36AM SEE THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT HAVE BEEN SPENT INSIDE OF
11:22:41AM OUR CRA.
11:22:41AM MOST PEOPLE DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT CITY MEANS THE
11:22:45AM ENTIRE CITY AND THOSE ARE THE DOLLARS THAT I RECEIVED.
11:22:52AM NOT ONLY TO DO WORK IN EAST TAMPA AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY, I
11:22:56AM REQUESTED -- FROM MISS HOWELL THAT PROVIDED IT FROM THE
11:23:02AM COUNTY, SOMETHING THAT WAS NEVER DONE AND THOSE DOLLARS WERE
11:23:05AM ONLY SPENT IN THE CRA AREA.
11:23:08AM THERE ARE OVER 200,000 HOMES IN EAST TAMPA.
11:23:11AM WHEN PEOPLE THINK NOTHING IS BEING DONE IN EAST TAMPA.
11:23:14AM TODAY I WANTED TO BRING YOU ALL THE NUMBERS SO YOU CAN SEE
11:23:19AM EXACTLY HOW MANY RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN TOUCHED.
11:23:21AM HOW MANY PEOPLE STEPPED AWAY AND CHANGED THEIR MINDS.
11:23:25AM HOW MANY PEOPLE HOUSES WERE OVER THE LIMIT AND WE COULD NOT
11:23:29AM TOUCH THOSE RESIDENTS.
11:23:30AM SO THAT IS THE REASON I ASK -- I HOPE YOU ALL GOT THE
11:23:36AM SPREADSHEET SHOWING YOU ALL THE HOUSES AND THE DOLLARS THAT
11:23:38AM HAVE BEEN SPENT BY EACH ONE OF THESE AREAS.
11:23:41AM SO LET ME START WITH THIS.
11:23:43AM 39 WERE COMPLETED IN THE CRA.
11:23:48AM FROM 2018 TOO CURRENT.
11:23:52AM 111 HAVE BEEN COMPLETED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY.
11:23:58AM THOSE ARE REHABS.
11:23:59AM THAT IS USING APPROXIMATELY $3.6 MILLION.
11:24:03AM $1.5 MILLION OF THOSE DOLLARS WERE SPENT IN JUST EAST TAMPA.
11:24:08AM AND I KNOW WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT IT, THEY THINK IT IS NOT, BUT
11:24:13AM WE HAVE ALL THE NAMES, THE ADDRESSES, PEOPLE WHO WILL BE
11:24:17AM ABLE TO SEE WHAT HOUSE HAVE BEEN TOUCHED.
11:24:20AM WE CAN PROVIDES YOU EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY WAS SPENT ON EACH
11:24:24AM ONE OF THE HOUSES.
11:24:25AM BECAUSE I JUST THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND
11:24:28AM THE MAGNITUDE OF THE NUMBER OF HOUSES THAT NEED MONEY.
11:24:33AM THERE IS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH MONEY IN OUR CITY HONESTLY OR
11:24:38AM ENOUGH IS NOT BEING PROVIDED.
11:24:40AM LET'S SAY THAT TO REPAIR ALL OF THE HOUSES THAT NEED OVER IN
11:24:45AM THE EAST TAMPA ONLY.
11:24:46AM SO WE HAVE TO CONSIDER WHEN WE ARE USING CITY MONEY, I CAN'T
11:24:51AM JUST SPEND ALL OF THE MONEY IN EAST TAMPA.
11:24:54AM BECAUSE I KNOW THE NEED; HOWEVER, OUR ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN
11:24:58AM CHOSEN TO SPEND THESE DOLLARS THROUGHOUT YOUR ENTIRE CITY.
11:25:02AM AND IT IS NOTHING WHEN YOU CONSIDER WE ARE PUTTING $50,000
11:25:08AM INTO EACH HOME TO TRY TO MAKE THAT -- BRING THAT HOUSE UP TO
11:25:12AM CODE.
11:25:12AM AND THAT HAS BEEN A MAJOR PROBLEM.
11:25:17AM SOME IF YOU LOOK AT THE SHEET, YOU WILL SEE THAT 19
11:25:24AM HOMEOWNERS CANCELLED APPLICATIONS.
11:25:26AM AND SOME OF THOSE EXCEEDED THE LIMIT.
11:25:28AM THOSE WERE OUTSIDE OF EAST TAMPA.
11:25:31AM AND THEN 810 WERE INSIDE OF EAST TAMPA.
11:25:35AM EIGHT CANCELLED AND DECIDED THEY DID NOT WANT TO MOVE
11:25:39AM FORWARD.
11:25:39AM EXCEEDED THE $50,000 LIMIT.
11:25:42AM SO THAT WAS 39 PLUS THESE 10 WHICH REALLY WOULD HAVE GIVEN
11:25:47AM US 49 IN TAMPA BUT YOU ALL HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT SOMETIMES
11:25:51AM WHEN PEOPLE REALIZE THERE IS A LIEN.
11:25:55AM WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT LIEN, WE USED TO DIDN'T HAVE IT.
11:25:59AM AS SOON AS WE WOULD REHAB A HOUSE, THEY WOULD SELL THE HOME.
11:26:02AM SO THE CITY CAME UP WITH A PROGRAM AND SAID WE MUST HAVE
11:26:06AM A LIEN.
11:26:07AM SO MANY PEOPLE SAY, NO, HOW CAN I LEAVE IT TO MY CHILD IF
11:26:12AM THERE IS A LIEN ON IT.
11:26:13AM SO THEY WILL BALK AWAY FROM THAT PROGRAM RATHER THAN HAVE
11:26:19AM THAT LIEN ON THE HOUSE.
11:26:21AM SOMETIMES THEY ARE WALKING AWAY AND LEAVING IT.
11:26:23AM WE UNDERSTAND IT.
11:26:25AM SO THE OTHER ADDRESS IS.
11:26:27AM I KEEP BEING TOLD THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING TO MY OFFICE AND WE
11:26:30AM ARE TURNING THEM AWAY.
11:26:31AM UNDERSTAND, EAST TAMPA DOES NOT TAKE APPLICATIONS.
11:26:35AM ALL APPLICATIONS ARE MADE THROUGH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:26:38AM THEY GO OVER TO THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
11:26:41AM THAT IS WHERE ALL APPLICATIONS COME FROM.
11:26:43AM ALL IS A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE
11:26:49AM HOUSING DEPARTMENT THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR REPAIRS.
11:26:51AM WE HAVE NO PART IN CHOOSING ANY HOUSES TO BE REHABBED.
11:26:57AM WE NEVER HAVE.
11:26:58AM WELL MAYBE IN THE '90S WE DID, BUT THAT HAS LONG BEEN GONE.
11:27:05AM EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH THE CITY.
11:27:07AM AND I KNOW MANY PEOPLE THINK IT IS US THAT ARE TURNING THEM
11:27:10AM DOWN.
11:27:10AM SO, YOU KNOW, I CAME TODAY BECAUSE I NEED TO BETTER
11:27:14AM UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROGRAM REALLY WORKS.
11:27:16AM WE ACTUALLY -- WHEN THE CITY SENDS ME THE LIST FROM THE
11:27:20AM HOUSING DEPARTMENT TO A BID FOR THEIR PARTICULAR ADDRESS, WE
11:27:27AM HAVE APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY CONTRACTORS WORKING IN THE
11:27:31AM PROGRAM.
11:27:32AM >> TEN.
11:27:32AM >> TEN CONTRACTORS WORKING THROUGH THE PROGRAM.
11:27:35AM WE GO TO THE HOUSE AND PREPARE A SCOPE WHAT WE BELIEVE -- MY
11:27:39AM STAFF AND A CONTRACTOR ON OUR STAFF WITH US, THEY GO TO THE
11:27:42AM HOUSE TO TRY TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH WORK NEEDS TO DONE BE.
11:27:45AM AFTER WE DO THAT, WE PUT TOGETHER A SCOPE OF WORK.
11:27:48AM ONCE THAT SCOPE IS PUT TO THE TEST AND WE ARE READY TO GO
11:27:51AM BACK TO THAT HOMEOWNER HOME, WE TAKE ALL TEN OF THOSE
11:27:55AM CONTRACTORS.
11:27:55AM AND AT THAT TIME, WE ASK THEM.
11:27:58AM WHAT HAVE WE MISSED.
11:28:00AM BECAUSE IF WE MISS SOMETHING, WE WANT TO ADD IT THEN AND
11:28:05AM THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
11:28:06AM ADD WHATEVER WE MISS.
11:28:07AM MOST OF THE TIME WE HAVE NOT MISSED ANYTHING.
11:28:10AM REMEMBER ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, ROOFS AND AC UNITS ARE THE
11:28:15AM ONLY THING THAT YOUR CITY DOLLARS CARE FOR.
11:28:18AM CANNOT PAINT THE OUTSIDE.
11:28:20AM YOU CAN NOT CLEAN UP THE OUTSIDE.
11:28:22AM AND WE CAN NOT DO ANYTHING BUT THOSE FOUR MAJOR COMPONENTS.
11:28:26AM SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT EITHER.
11:28:30AM ONCE A CONTRACTOR BIDS, WE DECENT NECESSARILY TAKE THE
11:28:36AM LOWEST BID BUT THAT IS THE BID WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
11:28:38AM WE KNOW IF YOU WERE NOT WITHIN 15%, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO
11:28:42AM COMPLETE THAT PROPERTY.
11:28:42AM SO WE DON'T ASK YOU TO TRY TO COME IN AT THE BARE MINIMUM.
11:28:47AM WE KNOW THAT EVERYBODY HAS GOT TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF THE
11:28:50AM PROJECT.
11:28:50AM WE GET THAT.
11:28:50AM SO WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BEAT DOWN OUR CONTRACTORS, BUT WHAT
11:28:54AM WE DO AND THEY WILL TELL YOU I AM VERY DIFFICULT ON CHANGE
11:28:58AM ORDERS.
11:28:59AM I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD BID FAIRLY SO IS YOU DON'T KEEP COME
11:29:08AM PACK TO ME FOR THE CHANGE ORDER.
11:29:09AM IF YOU PULL OFF THE ROOF AND ALL THE WOOD IS BAD.
11:29:12AM WE HAVE 1,000 EXTRA FROM THE BEGINNING ON WOOD.
11:29:17AM OR IN A WALL AND WORSE THAN WE ANTICIPATE, DON'T SEE INSIDE
11:29:24AM OUR OLDER HOMES.
11:29:26AM THEN I WILL ALLOW YOU TO HAVE A CHANGE ORDER.
11:29:29AM CONTRACTORS PART OF THE PROGRAM.
11:29:32AM ARE THEY COMPLAINING, SURE HER.
11:29:34AM I AM NOT GIVING YOU CART BLANCHE TO BRING ME BACK CHANGE
11:29:40AM ORDERS.
11:29:40AM YOU KNOW AS A CONTRACTOR BASED ON YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, YEARS
11:29:44AM OF A EXPERIENCE PERIODS, IT WHAT IT TAKES TO DO THAT JOB AND
11:29:48AM THAT'S WHERE I EXPECT YOU TO COME IN.
11:29:51AM LESS THAN 15%, YOUR BID IS NO GOOD.
11:29:54AM OVER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WHICH IS $50,000 PER HOME AND
11:29:57AM EVERYBODY KNOWS THERE IS $50,000 YOUR BY IS TOSSED OUT.
11:30:03AM TO SOME PEOPLE NOT LIKE OUR BID PROCESS.
11:30:05AM SURE.
11:30:06AM I HAVE TO BID BECAUSE I WANT TO ENSURE THAT WHOEVER GETS
11:30:09AM THAT WILL HAVE CHANGE ORDERS.
11:30:14AM WHAT ELSE?
11:30:17AM >> THAT'S IT.
11:30:18AM >> SO TOTAL REHABS IN THE CRA AREA, THE TOTAL NUMBER SINCE
11:30:23AM 2018 HAS BEEN 55.
11:30:26AM OUT OF MY 111.
11:30:28AM SO -- YOU KNOW, I KIND OF WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BETTER
11:30:32AM UNDERSTAND, WE ARE WORKING WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
11:30:35AM AND YOU CANNOT COME TO ME AND EXPECT ME TO PUT MONEY
11:30:39AM INTO CRA IF THEIR APPLICATIONS WERE NOT IN LINE AND WE GO
11:30:44AM FIRST-COME, FIRST-SERVE BASE ON THE LIST THAT YOUR CITY
11:30:48AM PROVIDES ME.
11:30:49AM I DO NOTHING TO APPROVE THEM OR DENY THEM.
11:30:52AM AND I KEEP BEING TOLD I AM DENYING MY SENIORS.
11:30:55AM NOT TRUE.
11:30:56AM I ALSO UNDERSTAND -- WE HAD A COMPLAINT OF A HOME
11:31:03AM ON CARACAS.
11:31:03AM UNDERSTAND THAT EAST TAMPA AND CIVIC DID NOT TOUCH THE
11:31:07AM HOUSE.
11:31:07AM ME WITH MY WANT TO BE INTO IS TO EVERYBODY WENT OVER TO BE A
11:31:12AM MEDIATOR OF THE PROPERTY BETWEEN A PRIVATE HOMEOWNER AND A
11:31:16AM CONTRACTOR.
11:31:17AM PEOPLE THOUGHT WE HAD A PART IN IT.
11:31:18AM NOTHING.
11:31:19AM WE DO NO NEW CONSTRUCTION OR OTHER PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF OUR
11:31:24AM PROXIMATE.
11:31:24AM SO JUST KIND OF WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOU ALL TO ASK ME
11:31:30AM QUESTIONS AND BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS WORKING.
11:31:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:31:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL DEFER FOR MR. MIRANDA FIRST.
11:31:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
11:31:43AM IT IS VERY THOROUGH AND CORRECT.
11:31:44AM YOU ARE RIGHT IN MOST INSTANCE WHEN YOU SAY SOMETIMES THE
11:31:48AM LOWEST BID IS NOT THE BEST BID.
11:31:50AM THREE BIDS AND THE LAST BIDS ARE WITHIN 4 AND 5% AND BETWEEN
11:31:55AM FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD IS 25%.
11:31:57AM GOT A PROBLEM.
11:31:59AM THEY MAY FINISH IT BUT NOT WITH THE SAME MATERIAL.
11:32:02AM >> RIGHT.
11:32:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THINGS AND AN EYE
11:32:06AM IN THE SKY.
11:32:07AM YOU HAVE TO TRUST AND VERIFY.
11:32:09AM SO WHEN I SEE THESE THINGS GOING ON AND I SEE THAT YOU ARE
11:32:18AM SPENDING THE MONEY.
11:32:19AM TALK TO US ABOUT THE LIEN SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE LIEN
11:32:25AM COULD GO AWAY WITH CERTAIN THING.
11:32:27AM >> YES, SIR, I WILL.
11:32:28AM THE LIEN IS BASED ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, DEFENDING ON THE
11:32:32AM AMOUNT WE SPEND ON.THE HOUSE.
11:32:33AM I THINK IT IS $10,000.
11:32:35AM HOW MANY YEARS --
11:32:37AM >> 14,999 ONLY FIVE YEARS AND ANYTHING OVER THAN THAT ARE
11:32:42AM TEN YEARS.
11:32:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE PUBLIC UNDER STANDS THAT THE LIEN FOR
11:32:48AM NOT 30 YEARS BECAUSE THINGS CHANGE AND NOT LIVE FOR 400
11:32:52AM YEARS.
11:32:53AM >> I WILL LIKE TO ASK YOU FOR DOLLARS SO PEOPLE WITH THE
11:32:56AM TRUST PROBLEM ON THEIR HOMES, EVERYBODY DIED.
11:32:58AM ONE PERSON IS LEFT.
11:32:59AM STILL NOT IN YOUR NAME.
11:33:00AM TO BE ABLE TO DO SUIT TO QUIET TITLE.
11:33:04AM THOSE ARE THINGS WE CAN HELP PEOPLE WITH, BECAUSE MANY TIMES
11:33:07AM WE HAVE TO WALK AWAY.
11:33:08AM CITY NOT TELL YOU WE BUY YOUR INSURANCE IF YOU DON'T HAVE
11:33:13AM ANY.
11:33:13AM WE CAN DO THAT BY VERIFYING TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY, I AM
11:33:17AM PUTTING ROOF ON.
11:33:18AM AND THEY WILL ACCEPT OUR WORD FOR IT.
11:33:20AM THEN WITHIN A 30-DAY WINDOW, I HAVE TO SHOW THEM PROOF THAT
11:33:24AM I PUT THAT ROOF ON IT.
11:33:26AM BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE DON'T HAVE HOMEOWNER INSURANCE.
11:33:29AM AND THAT USED TO BE ONE OF THE -- NO INSURANCE, WE COULD NOT
11:33:32AM DO IT.
11:33:33AM BUT NOW WE BUY FIRST YEAR.
11:33:35AM BUT YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT AFTER THAT.
11:33:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I CONTINUE ONE MORE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:33:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, PLEASE.
11:33:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR EXPLANATION OF THE
11:33:46AM INSURANCE.
11:33:46AM TODAY NOT ONLY THE PURCHASE THE HOUSE BUT GET IT WHEN YOU
11:33:51AM LIVE IN THE HOUSE.
11:33:51AM INSURANCE IS VERY HIGH.
11:33:52AM YOU LIVE CLOSER TO THE WATER, BUY ANOTHER INSURANCE.
11:33:56AM FORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN THE AREA WE ARE TALKING
11:34:00AM ABOUT TODAY, BUT THING THAT HOMEOWNER HAVE TO UNDERSTAND,
11:34:03AM INSURANCE AND REPAIRS EVEN WHEN YOU REPAIR SOMETHING, YOU
11:34:07AM TONIGHT KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
11:34:09AM YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS.
11:34:10AM AND HOMEOWNERSHIP IS VERY HARD TO ATTAIN NOT ONLY FOR, THE
11:34:16AM INTEREST RATES AT 7% FOR HOMEOWNERS AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
11:34:21AM A VERY DIFFICULT THING.
11:34:23AM AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WILL WORK IT OUT BUT ALL OF US
11:34:25AM TOGETHER OR THE SHIP WILL SINK.
11:34:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:34:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I ALWAYS WANT TO HEAR FROM THE HORSE.
11:34:32AM BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE ASSUME THINGS AND DON'T
11:34:36AM UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.
11:34:37AM I AM GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO COME.
11:34:39AM TO GIVE YOU TIME TO REVIEW ON TV SO WE CAN REVIEW THE FILM
11:34:44AM WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
11:34:45AM MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
11:34:47AM EVEN TO RIGHT NOW SOME OF THE THINGS I WAS THINKING WITH
11:34:51AM REHAB IS NOT THERE.
11:34:52AM I AM QUESTIONING WHY IS IT NOT THERE.
11:34:54AM IF I WILL DO A REHAB OF A COMMUNITY.
11:34:56AM SEE A BRAND-NEW HOUSE BUILT ON THE STREET AND A RAGGEDY
11:35:00AM HOUSE AND GOING THROUGH A PROGRAMS AND I WANT TO FIX A ROOF,
11:35:03AM WHY DON'T I HAVE SOME KIND OF PAINTING IN THERE BECAUSE IT
11:35:06AM IS STILL MAKING THE COMMUNITY PLIGHT.
11:35:08AM LOOKING AT CRA.
11:35:09AM IF I HAVE A CRA REHAB PROGRAM, THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE
11:35:13AM INCLUDED IN THE REHAB PROGRAM.
11:35:15AM THOSE DOLLARS CAN BE UTILIZED HOWEVER WE WANT.
11:35:20AM SOME FEDERAL DOLLARS WE ARE USING AS FAR AS THE CITY
11:35:24AM PROGRAM.
11:35:24AM A DIFFERENT PROGRAM.
11:35:25AM I AM LOOKING AT AT CRA DOLLARS, REHAB PROGRAM THAT IS
11:35:31AM COMPLETE.
11:35:32AM I HEAR THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THE TITLE SITUATION.
11:35:36AM I LEARNED THAT RECENTLY.
11:35:37AM A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE HER FATHER DIED.
11:35:39AM COULD NOT GET THE LIGHT BILL CHANGED BECAUSE OF THE TITLE OF
11:35:43AM THE HOUSE.
11:35:43AM THAT IS WHY WE TALK ABOUT OUR DEPTH LOOKING AT PROBATING
11:35:47AM THESE ISSUES.
11:35:48AM THAT IS HAPPENING SOMETIMES.
11:35:49AM PEOPLE CAN'T GET LOANS AND CAN'T DO THINGS WHEN PARENTS DIE
11:35:53AM OR RELATIVES TO DIE.
11:35:54AM WE HAVE TO HAVE A PROGRAM IN THIS CITY SOMETHING TO BE
11:35:57AM GEARED TO THAT.
11:35:59AM I AM GLAD YOU TALKED OF THAT PROCESS AS WELL AND PEOPLE
11:36:01AM UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR PROGRAM IS NOT JUST FOR EAST TAMPA.
11:36:04AM YOU HAVE A NAME TAG OF EAST TAMPA AND CIRCULATE THE WHOLE
11:36:09AM CITY.
11:36:09AM AGAIN, YOU DON'T GENERATE THE LIST APPARENTLY.
11:36:13AM WE GENERATE THE LIST WHICH I DID NOT KNOW THAT HOW THAT
11:36:17AM WORKS.
11:36:17AM THEY DON'T COME TO YOU FOR AN APPLICATION.
11:36:19AM WE GET THE APPLICATION.
11:36:20AM SO I THINKING NOW THE PUBLIC CAN KNOW HOW TO WORK.
11:36:23AM TO ME SENIORS ARE PRIORITY BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM CAN'T DO --
11:36:28AM MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE A GENERATED LIST OR SPECIALIST.
11:36:31AM I DON'T KNOW HOW LEGALLY WE CAN DO THAT AND I HEAR ALL THE
11:36:34AM TIME SENIOR WHO CAN'T WORK ANYMORE ARE FALLING AND CRUMBLING
11:36:38AM DOWN TO THE GROUND.
11:36:39AM LOOK WITH OUR CRA AND THE CITY PROGRAM HOW DO WE HELP OUT A
11:36:43AM CERTAIN CATEGORY OF -- OF PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP THE FASTEST.
11:36:46AM BECAUSE IF YOU WERE ELDERLY, YOU CAN'T -- YOU CAN'T DO IT.
11:36:50AM I DON'T WANT ANYBODY GETTING TAKEN BECAUSE COULDN'T FIND
11:36:53AM SOME -- MR. MIRANDA AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE THINGS BEFORE
11:36:59AM IT COLLAPSES ON THEM.
11:37:00AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:37:02AM >> LET ME SAY THE ONE THING WE RUN INTO WITH A LOT OF OUR
11:37:05AM SENIORS.
11:37:06AM IF IT IS A HUSBAND WIFE.
11:37:08AM THE HUSBAND DIED AND THE WIFE DIED AND THE HOUSE WAS ONLY IN
11:37:11AM THEIR NAME.
11:37:12AM AT THIS POINT, NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM.
11:37:15AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE OLD TIME TRADITIONAL WAY OF LIVING BACK
11:37:21AM IN THOSE DAYS.
11:37:22AM >> NO WAY TO HELP THEM WITH A HOUSE IN ONE PERSON'S NAME.
11:37:25AM YOU CAN'T GO I HAVE IT IN A PERSON WHO IS LIVING, THEIR
11:37:30AM NAME.
11:37:30AM WHICH HAVE A LADY -- RIGHT OUTSIDE OF CRA ON ROBLES STREET.
11:37:35AM AND HER HOUSE IS DEPLORABLE, BUT WE CAN NOT HELP HER.
11:37:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S WHY I ASKED OF PROBATE AND THESE
11:37:44AM TYPE OF TITLE ISSUES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HELP OUR AGING
11:37:48AM POPULATION.
11:37:48AM SAME THING WITH MY PARENTS.
11:37:50AM MY DAD'S NAME HAS EVERYTHING ON IT.
11:37:52AM I CHANGE IT OVER TO MY MOTHER'S NAME AND MY NAME AND
11:37:55AM BROTHERS AND SISTERS SO YOU CAN HAVE SOMETHING THAT CAN KEEP
11:37:58AM IT MOVING.
11:37:58AM AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE ANSWERS.
11:38:02AM YOU GAVE A LOT OF INSIGHT TO A LOT OF THINGS I DIDN'T KNOW
11:38:05AM MYSELF ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
11:38:06AM YOU DON'T RUN IT.
11:38:07AM IT IS RUN BY THE CITY.
11:38:08AM THE CITY GIVES YOU NAMES.
11:38:11AM YOU GOT TEN BIDDERS AND GO AND MOVE ON THE PROJECT AND MOVE
11:38:16AM FORWARD.
11:38:16AM I APPRECIATE THE CHAIRMAN TO GET THE TIME IN AND EXPLAIN TO
11:38:19AM THE PUBLIC BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU COME UNDER SCRUTINY.
11:38:23AM AND WEARING DIFFERENT HATS.
11:38:25AM I WANT THEM TO UNDER STAND WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
11:38:28AM SO IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, THEY CAN CONTACT THE CITY FOR
11:38:30AM CERTAIN CONDITIONS AND FOR YOU FOR CERTAIN.
11:38:32AM YIELD BACK, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:38:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:38:39AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU TO REPRESENTATIVE HART AND WHAT
11:38:42AM YOU ARE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY.
11:38:44AM MISS TRAVIS IS NOT HERE, BUT I UNDERSTAND SHE HAD QUESTIONS
11:38:48AM FROM THE PUBLIC AND SHE WANTED TO CONTINUE IT SO THE
11:38:51AM QUESTIONS TO THE PUBLIC COULD GET ANSWERED.
11:38:53AM I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW THE DATE WE ARE GOING TO
11:38:55AM CONTINUE IT TO, BUT I SUGGEST THAT WE ASK REPRESENTATIVE
11:38:59AM HART TO COME BACK WITH THE -- WITH THE QUESTIONS HAVING BEEN
11:39:03AM ASKED IN PRIVATE, THEN CAN ANSWERED IN PUBLIC SO WE CAN HAVE
11:39:08AM -- MAKE SURE WE HAVE --
11:39:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ABBYE RUNS THE PROGRAM.
11:39:15AM APOLOGIZE, SIR.
11:39:18AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY,.DEVELOPMENT MANAGEMENT.
11:39:22AM I ASK THAT WE CONTINUE IT TO NOVEMBER 3.
11:39:25AM I THINK THAT WILL GIVE US ADEQUATE TIME TO MAKE THOSE
11:39:28AM CONNECTIONS AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME IN
11:39:30AM FROM THE PUBLIC.
11:39:31AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
11:39:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:39:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME.
11:39:44AM REPRESENT HART.
11:39:45AM REPRESENT HART --
11:39:46AM >> I AM DIANE HART TODAY.
11:39:48AM STRICTLY THE --
11:39:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ARE ASKING FOR HELP WITH CITY DOLLARS,
11:39:52AM CORRECT?
11:39:53AM >> YES, SIR.
11:39:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU ASKING FOR CRA DOLLARS.
11:39:56AM >> I CANNOT ASK YOU FOR CRA DOLLARS.
11:39:59AM IT IS A COMBINATION.
11:40:00AM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL WOULD FUND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:40:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE REASON WHY I AM ASKING THIS.
11:40:05AM AND SOMEBODY CAN HELP ME IF YOU WANT TO.
11:40:07AM CRA DOLLARS HAVE TO BE SPENT WITHIN THE CRA.
11:40:10AM NOT OUTSIDE OF THE CRA.
11:40:13AM I THINK WE ARE MENTIONING SOME HOUSES OUTSIDE THE CRA THAT
11:40:18AM NEEDED REHABBING.
11:40:19AM WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING.
11:40:24AM >> LET ME CLEAR THAT UP, EVERY DIME THAT COMES OUT OF
11:40:28AM THE CRA.
11:40:28AM I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO FORMED THE EAST TAMPA CRA MUST
11:40:32AM BE SPENT IN THE COMMUNITY.
11:40:33AM THE OTHER DOLLARS GET TO BE SPENT ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF
11:40:38AM TAMPA.
11:40:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WHO ARE
11:40:41AM LISTENING TO THAT LISTEN TO OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS ALL THE
11:40:44AM TIME AND OUR CRA BOARD MEETINGS.
11:40:47AM OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.
11:40:49AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:40:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU,
11:40:53AM REPRESENTATIVE FOR THAT THOROUGH EXPLANATION.
11:40:55AM YOU OFFERED A LOT OF CLARITY AND WE LOOK FORWARD FOR WORKING
11:40:59AM WITH YOU TO BRING MUCH-NEEDED HELP TO EAST TAMPA AND THE
11:41:05AM CITY AS A WHOLE.
11:41:06AM THANK YOU.
11:41:07AM >> THANK YOU.
11:41:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON
11:41:11AM -- DID YOU MAKE THE MOTION?
11:41:13AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:41:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SECONDED IT.
11:41:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I NEED A MOTION.
11:41:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION.
11:41:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:41:21AM ALL IN FAVOR.
11:41:24AM >> CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING FOR SOMETHING.
11:41:26AM MANY YEARS AGO -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS.
11:41:29AM WHEN PEOPLE HAD CODE LIENS AGAINST THEIR HOME.
11:41:32AM THEY WERE PUT ON A SEPARATE LIST THAT GOT PRIORITY TO GET
11:41:36AM THEM OFF OF THAT LIST SO FINE ALSO NOT CONTINUE TO ACCRUE
11:41:40AM AND THEY WOULD LOSE THEIR PROPERTIES.
11:41:41AM WELL, AS TIME MASS PASSED, WE GOT RID OF THAT.
11:41:45AM IF YOU ALL WILL TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE MIGHT GO BACK TO
11:41:49AM HELPING FOLKS ON THAT LIST OF CODE ENFORCEMENT, ESPECIALLY
11:41:56AM SENIORS BECAUSE THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO GET TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.
11:42:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE WILL GET BACK WITH LEGAL AND GET BACK
11:42:06AM TO YOU.
11:42:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN I BE RECOGNIZED.
11:42:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:42:09AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT LIENS AS WELL.
11:42:13AM I REMEMBER A MOTION ABOUT THAT.
11:42:14AM BUT IF NOT, MR. MIRANDA, YOU CAN MAKE THAT MOTION.
11:42:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WILL MAKE THAT AFTER.
11:42:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
11:42:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T RECALL THAT CONVERSATION.
11:42:25AM BUT WHAT I DO KNOW THAT THE WAY LIENS ARE NOW BEING HANDLED
11:42:31AM BY THE ADMINISTRATION THROUGH EXECUTIVE ORDER.
11:42:33AM SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNCIL HAS PLANNED WITH REGARD TO
11:42:37AM THAT, BUT I KNOW THE PROCESS OF HOW A LIEN IS RESOLVED IS
11:42:41AM COVERED AS I SAID BY EXECUTIVE ORDER.
11:42:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:42:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:42:50AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I STAND CORRECTED.
11:42:52AM A REPRESENTATIVE AND I BELIEVE THE CITY HAS A CONTRACT WITH
11:42:55AM THE GENTLEMAN IN REFERENCE WITH THE CODE LIENS.
11:42:58AM I BELIEVE I HAVE A SCHEDULE -- MEETING SCHEDULED WITH MISS
11:43:02AM -- WITH MISS TRAVIS AND THE GENTLEMAN -- NEXT WEEK WITH THE
11:43:06AM GENTLEMAN BECAUSE I MET HIM OVER AT THE CONFERENCE.
11:43:09AM HE SAID I HAVE A CONTRACT TO HELP YOU DEAL WITH YOUR LIENS,
11:43:13AM ST. PETERSBURG IMPLEMENTED IT.
11:43:14AM I HAVE THE CONTRACT BUT I GUESS I HAVE NOT BEEN ALLOWED TO
11:43:17AM GO AHEAD AND GO FORWARD TAMPA STAFF IS STILL DISCUSS
11:43:22AM SOMETHING.
11:43:22AM AND -- I BELIEVE NEXT WEEK MEETING WITH MISS TRAVIS WITH
11:43:28AM REFERENCE TO THAT GENTLEMAN AND THAT -- HE SAID HE HAD A
11:43:31AM CONTRACT WITH THE CITY.
11:43:32AM MR. BENNETT IS NODDING HIS HEAD AND HE KNOWS WHAT I AM
11:43:36AM TALKING ABOUT.
11:43:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
11:43:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:43:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: WITH WE MAKE THE MOTION OR WAIT UNTIL NEW
11:43:43AM BUSINESS.
11:43:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE BEEN MAKING MOTIONS.
11:43:46AM DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:43:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A MEETING -- I SEE MR. BENNETT IS UP
11:43:52AM -- WE HAVE A CONTRACT ABOUT THIS KIND OF SITUATION.
11:43:54AM MR. BENNETT?
11:44:01AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WOULD DEFER TO LEGAL FOR ELEMENTS OF THE
11:44:03AM CONTRACT, BUT I WANT TO SUPPORT THE PHILOSOPHY IS WE HAVE
11:44:06AM BEEN TALKING ABOUT LOOKING AT THE CODE AS REPRESENTATIVE
11:44:12AM HART TALKED ABOUT.
11:44:13AM THAT IS WHERE IT NEEDS TO START AND OBVIOUSLY THE MOST
11:44:16AM VULNERABLE OPPORTUNITY TO FIX.
11:44:17AM SO, YOU KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATION IS IN FULL SUPPORT OF USING
11:44:22AM THAT LIST AS THE OPPORTUNITY.
11:44:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT I DIDN'T WANT.
11:44:25AM I DON'T WANT US TAKING HOUSES.
11:44:27AM I TOLD THE GENTLEMEN IF WE ARE INVOLVED IN THIS PROGRAM, I
11:44:30AM WANT A MECHANISM WE HELP THOSE PEOPLE.
11:44:33AM NOT JUST TAKE THEIR HOMES.
11:44:35AM AND REMOVE AND BECAUSE THEY ARE LIENS AND PUT ANOTHER LIEN
11:44:40AM AS FAR AS THE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN THERE
11:44:44AM AND HAVE A CHANCE TO REHAB THEIR HOME.
11:44:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:44:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE IT TO THE FEBRUARY WORKSHOP.
11:44:53AM BUT PUT A DISCUSSION OF PRIORITIZATION OF -- OF LIENS FOR
11:44:58AM INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS, A DISCUSSION ON THAT ON THE FEBRUARY
11:45:03AM 23 --
11:45:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET'S HEAR FROM HIM.
11:45:08AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THIS MAY BE THE HELPFUL WITH REGARD TO CODE
11:45:11AM ENFORCEMENT LIENS.
11:45:12AM YES, WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER IN PLACE.
11:45:15AM ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER PROVIDES FOR, IF A
11:45:19AM PROPERTY OWNER BRINGS IT INTO COMPLIANCE AND RESOLVES THE
11:45:24AM CODE ISSUE, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT CAN THEN COMPROMISE AND
11:45:27AM BASICALLY WRITE OFF A HUGE AMOUNT OF THE LIENS -- WHEN A
11:45:34AM CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN IS PLACED ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, THE
11:45:37AM LIEN AMOUNT INCREASES ON A DAILY -- EVERY DAY THE CODE
11:45:41AM VIOLATION EXISTS IS A SEPARATE VIOLATION IN ESSENCE.
11:45:45AM THE CODE VIOLATION.
11:45:46AM IF YOU EVER A MOWING LIEN AGAINST YOUR PROPERTY IS AND DON'T
11:45:52AM GET IT CORRECTED.
11:45:53AM EVERY DAY A $50 OR $100 ADDED TO THAT AMOUNT.
11:45:58AM YOU DON'T CORRECT YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN, CAN BE A LARGE
11:46:04AM SUM OF DOLLARS, A LIEN AGAINST YOUR PROPERTY.
11:46:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE CONTRACT -- EXPLAINED IN THE MEETING I
11:46:12AM HAVE AND IN DAYTONA THAT THIS COMPANY GOES OUT AND FINES THE
11:46:15AM PROPERTY OWNER -- GOES AND FIND THEM -- AND WE CAN'T FINE
11:46:19AM ANYBODY.
11:46:20AM THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS.
11:46:21AM THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS COMPANY DOES.
11:46:24AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I BELIEVE WHO YOU SPOKEN TO AND I MAY BE
11:46:27AM INCORRECT, BUT WE HAVE.AN WITH AN OUTSIDE LAW FIRM FOR
11:46:32AM COLLECTING AND CLOSING LIENS.
11:46:33AM WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE DO THAT.
11:46:35AM BECAUSE WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST WHEN WE HAVE HIRED
11:46:38AM OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO BE THE COLLECTOR OR ENFORCER OF CITY CODE
11:46:46AM ENFORCEMENT LIENS THAT SOMETIMES IT BECOMES A BURDEN ON THE
11:46:51AM HOMEOWNERS.
11:46:52AM THERE IS SOME -- WE HAVE INCIDENTS IN THE PAST WHERE A CODE
11:46:56AM ENFORCEMENT LIEN HAS BEEN IN EFFECT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
11:47:00AM THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FOR THAT LIEN NOW IS $50,000 OR
11:47:05AM $100,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:47:06AM THE ATTORNEY THAT IS REPRESENTING THE CITY SOMETIMES IN
11:47:11AM INNOCENT SLIDE TO COLLECT AS MUCH OF THAT AS THEY CAN.
11:47:15AM THE CITY IS MORE CONCERNED OF GETTING THE PROBLEM CORRECTED
11:47:18AM AND MAKING SURE THE PROPERTY REMAINS IN PRIVATE HANDS.
11:47:21AM WE HAD THIS ISSUE BEFORE.
11:47:23AM WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE -- HOW WE DO THAT THAT IS
11:47:26AM REALLY --
11:47:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK A WORKSHOP MIGHT BE IN ORDER SO
11:47:30AM THIS COUNCIL UNDERSTAND THAT IS WE ARE DOING.
11:47:32AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK
11:47:35AM IN THAT PROPERTY OR BE ABLE TO FIND THE OWNERS TO GO ET IT
11:47:39AM TRANSFERRED WHO MAYBE NOT WANT IT AND DO IT WITH CRA
11:47:44AM DOLLARS.
11:47:44AM >> COULD BE A TOOL BUT HAS TO BE CAREFULLY USED.
11:47:47AM THAT'S --
11:47:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MASSEY, AS BEING A FORMER MAGISTRATE FOR
11:47:53AM CODE ENFORCEMENT.
11:47:54AM I KNOW MANY, MANY CASES WHERE THE FINE HAVE BEEN
11:47:57AM REINVESTIGATED AND REFUSED OR ELIMINATED ALL TOGETHER BY A
11:48:01AM PERSON WHO WANTED TO COME AND.
11:48:03AM I WOULD A HOUSE AND UNAFFAIR THEY WERE BEING CHARGED A
11:48:08AM FINE.
11:48:08AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: CORRECT.
11:48:10AM WHAT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER ALLOWS THE CITY TO DO BEFORE COMING
11:48:14AM BEFORE THE MAGISTRATE, IF A CODE IS RESOLVED COMPROMISE AND
11:48:20AM WRITE OFF MOST OF THE LIEN AMOUNTS.
11:48:24AM THE PURPOSE OF THE EXECUTIVE ORDER.
11:48:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO FORWARD THEM AND GIVE
11:48:32AM THEM A COPY OF THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER SO THEY ARE FAMILIAR
11:48:35AM WITH THAT PROCESS.
11:48:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WILL MAKE THE MOTION.
11:48:38AM MR. CARLSON, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE IT -- OR ME.
11:48:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE NEED FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE THE MOTION AND
11:48:46AM SECOND IT.
11:48:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL MAKE A MOTION FEBRUARY 23 TO DEAL
11:48:50AM WITH THE LIEN DISCUSSION, TIME DISCUSSIONS AND THE COMPANY
11:48:55AM INVOLVED WITH IN CONTRACT.
11:48:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:48:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:48:59AM THANK YOU.
11:49:00AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:49:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO AHEAD.
11:49:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, I CAN'T.
11:49:11AM I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE AUDIENCE.
11:49:14AM YOU SAY THESE THINGS MAY NOT MEAN A LOT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE,
11:49:17AM BUT ALONG THE LINE IT MEANS AN AWFUL LOT.
11:49:23AM WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
11:49:26AM THE LOOPY IS NOT FOR A PENALTY BUT TO GET THE ROOF AND
11:49:29AM WHATEVER DONE.
11:49:30AM THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PUT UP THE
11:49:33AM ROOF AND LEAKS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT COMING AND CITE YOU, YOU
11:49:38AM DON'T HAVE A ROOF AND DON'T HAVE A LIEN.
11:49:40AM WITHER TRYING WORK IT OUT SO EVERYBODY IS AMICABLE AND THE
11:49:46AM PARTY GETS WHAT THEY WANT AND THE CITY GETS WHAT THEY WANT
11:49:49AM AND WE TONIGHT HAVE TO SPEND EXTRA MONEY.
11:49:52AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.
11:49:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF, I KNOW YOU WANT MR. ROGERO TO COME UP
11:49:59AM REQUEST I BELIEVE IT IS 6, 7 AND 8 TOGETHER.
11:50:03AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
11:50:07AM JOHN DINGFELDER, CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:50:11AM TO HAVE MR. ROGERO TO COME UP AND HOW HE WILL SHOW HOW IT
11:50:16AM RELATES POTENTIALLY TO ITEM NUMBER 5.
11:50:19AM I SUGGEST HEARING HIM OUT.
11:50:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S HEAR 5, 6, 7 AND 8 TOGETHER AS THEY
11:50:27AM ARE ALL RELATED.
11:50:27AM 6, 7 AND 8.
11:50:31AM >>JOHN BENNETT: 6, 7 AND 8 AND THEN 5.
11:50:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. ROGERO, LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN AGENDA
11:50:49AM ITEM NUMBER 6.
11:50:51AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND GOOD MORNING,
11:50:53AM COUNCIL.
11:50:54AM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
11:50:57AM BEGIN WITH 6, 7 AND 8 AS WE JUST DISCUSSED.
11:51:02AM REIMBURSEMENT FOR WATER, WASTEWATER, STORMWATER AND VARIOUS
11:51:07AM CAPITAL FUND IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
11:51:08AM WE PROVIDED STAFF REPORTS, OF COURSE, BUT A BRIEF
11:51:12AM INTRODUCTION BEFORE WE BRING UP OUR BOND COUNSEL, MR. STEVE
11:51:16AM MILLER, WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY HAS MET TO GO OVER WHY WE
11:51:19AM THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA AND HOW WE HAVE HAD A GREAT DEAL
11:51:24AM OF SUCCESS WITH THESE TYPE OF RESOLUTIONS IN THE PAST.
11:51:26AM FIRST COUNCIL APPROVED THESE PROJECTS LAST MONTH AS PART OF
11:51:31AM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
11:51:32AM AND WE ARE NOT ASKING COUNCIL TO APPROVE ANY DEBT AT THIS
11:51:36AM TIME.
11:51:36AM THAT WILL COME LATER AS WE EXPLAINED WITH THE TYPICAL
11:51:39AM IN-DEPTH PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICABLE DEPARTMENTS, MY TEAM
11:51:45AM INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL.
11:51:46AM WE ARE ASKING COUNCIL TO CONSIDER DEBT SERVICE AS PART OF
11:51:50AM THE FUNDING STRATEGY FOR THESE ITEMS.
11:51:53AM A RECENT EXAMPLE OF THIS AS SOME OF THIS HAS DISCUSSED A
11:51:56AM COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
11:51:57AM COUNCIL APPROVED A $55 MILLION STORMWATER ITEM.
11:52:01AM PREDICATED ON ONE OF THESE REIMBURSEMENTS, PARTICULARLY AND
11:52:07AM GENERALLY PREDICATED ON THE EVENTUAL ISSUANCE OF DEBT
11:52:11AM SERVICE.
11:52:11AM WE HAVE BRIEFED MOST OF YOU.
11:52:13AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND INTEREST.
11:52:16AM HAVING SAID THAT IF I MAY, TURN IT OVER TO MR. MILLER.
11:52:19AM >> THANK YOU, DENNIS.
11:52:27AM STEVE MILLER WITH NABOR GIBLIN AND NICKERSON, THE CITY'S
11:52:35AM BOND COUNSEL.
11:52:35AM I HERE TO BRIEFLY SPEAK OF THE RESOLUTIONS AND CLARIFY SOME
11:52:42AM THINGS.
11:52:42AM WHAT MR. ROGERO JUST MENTIONED THAT PASSING THESE
11:52:45AM RESOLUTIONS TODAY DOES NOT GIVE THE CITY ANY ABILITY OR
11:52:49AM AUTHORITY TO ISSUE DEBT FOR ANY ONE OF THESE PARTICULAR
11:52:51AM PROJECTS.
11:52:52AM THAT WILL HAVE TO COME FROM SUBSEQUENT APPLICATION BY THE
11:52:56AM CITY COUNCIL.
11:52:56AM WHAT THIS ALLOWS THE CITY IT DO IS IF THE CITY IN
11:53:00AM UNDERTAKING THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY PART OF THE CIP
11:53:03AM SPENDS SOME OF ITS OWN MONEY IN ANTICIPATION OF POSSIBLY
11:53:08AM DOING A FINANCING DOWN THE ROAD GIVES THE CITY THE ULTIMATE
11:53:13AM FLEXIBILITY IN COVERING BASES TO REPLENISH THOSE FUNDS OR
11:53:16AM REIMBURSE THOSE FUNDS THAT YOU SPENT FOR THE PROJECT.
11:53:19AM ALL REQUIRED BY THE FEDERAL TAX LAWS, A RULE OUT THERE THAT
11:53:24AM SAYS IF YOU DO WANT TO REIMBURSE YOURSELF FOR ANY MONIES YOU
11:53:28AM SPENT FOR A PROJECT FROM TAX EXEMPT BOND PROCEEDS YOU HAVE
11:53:32AM TO ADOPT ONE OF THESE THINGS AND SHOWS YOUR OFFICIAL INTENT
11:53:35AM THERE.
11:53:36AM THIS IS REALLY JUST AN INSURANCE POLICY GIVING YOU GUYS
11:53:39AM ULTIMATE FLEXIBILITY IN HOW YOU WANT TO PAY FOR THESE
11:53:44AM PROJECTS.
11:53:44AM FINANCING SOME.
11:53:45AM PAYING AS YOU GO WITH SOME.
11:53:47AM FINANCING ALL.
11:53:48AM THOSE ARE DECISIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE DOWN THE
11:53:51AM ROAD.
11:53:51AM IF ADMINISTRATION SUBSEQUENTLY DECIDES A PROJECT TWO OR
11:53:59AM THREE THAT THEY WANT TO FINANCE WITH TAX EXEMPT BOND
11:54:02AM PROCEEDS, THEY WILL COME BACK TO YOU.
11:54:03AM ANOTHER RESOLUTION. SPECIFICS, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT,
11:54:07AM THE FUNDING SOURCE, THE STRUCTURE, ETC., ETC.
11:54:10AM I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT ADOPTS THESE TODAY DOES NOT
11:54:16AM COMMIT YOU IN ADOPTING DEBT IN THE FUTURE.
11:54:18AM I WANT TO POINT OUT THE CITY HAS BEEN GREAT DOING THIS OVER
11:54:22AM THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
11:54:23AM VERY PROACTIVE AND SO THEY DON'T GET IN A BIND.
11:54:30AM I HAVE SEVERAL CLIENTS THAT ARE NOT AS PROACTIVE AS THE
11:54:32AM CITY.
11:54:33AM ONE THAT PURCHASE A PIECE OF LAND WITH THEIR OWN MONEY, $5
11:54:36AM MILLION.
11:54:36AM THEY ALWAYS INTENDED TO DO BONDS.
11:54:39AM DIDN'T TALK TO US OR OTHER FINANCING PROFESSIONALS AND THEY
11:54:43AM WANTED TO ISSUE THE BOND AND PAY THE $5 MILLION BACK.
11:54:46AM THEY HAVEN'T ADOPTED ONE OF THESE, THEY COULDN'T DO IT.
11:54:49AM OUR RECOMMENDATION TO DO THESE WHENEVER YOU ARE ABLE TO
11:54:53AM UNDERTAKE THE LARGE PROJECTS.
11:54:55AM IF THAT, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:54:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE YOUR CONVERSATION THIS
11:54:59AM MORNING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND ALL THE CITIZENS OF THE
11:55:02AM CITY OF TAMPA.
11:55:03AM SO IN ESSENCE, NO BURDEN.
11:55:05AM NO ADDITIONAL BURDEN AT THE TAXPAYER.
11:55:08AM >> CORRECTS, NOT AT THIS POINT.
11:55:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
11:55:11AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:55:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:55:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: LET'S SAY A $10 MILLION PROJECT AND CITY
11:55:17AM REIMBURSES ITSELF FROM THIS FUND.
11:55:20AM WHEN THE MONEY GOES BACK IN THE OTHER ACCOUNT, HAVE TO GO
11:55:24AM BACK IN THE SAME ACCOUNT IT CAME FROM ORIGINALLY?
11:55:27AM OR ANY RESTRICTIONS HOW THAT MONEY IS TO BE SPENT.
11:55:31AM DOES THE CITY HAVE TO GET APPROVAL OF THE $10 MILLION TO BE
11:55:36AM PUT BACK.
11:55:36AM >> LET ME ANSWER THAT WITH AN EXAMPLE.
11:55:38AM YOU HAVE SOME PROJECT -- THIS RESOLUTION REQUIRES YOU TO --
11:55:42AM DOESN'T HOLD YOU TOO AND COULD BE REASONABLE DEVELOP NATION.
11:55:45AM YOU INTEND TO PAY SOME OF THESE PROJECTS LET'S SAY OUT OF
11:55:49AM THE STORMWATER CAPITAL FUND AND SPEND $10 MILLION FOR
11:55:54AM STORMWATER PROJECTS.
11:55:54AM AND DOWN THE ROAD BOND ISSUE FOR THE STORMWATER.
11:55:58AM PUT $10 MILLION BACK IN THAT STORMWATER CAPITAL FUND.
11:56:02AM CAN BE USED FOR WHATEVER THE STORMWATER CAPITAL FUND CAN BE
11:56:05AM USED FOR.
11:56:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE CITY -- THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TO COME
11:56:09AM BACK BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
11:56:11AM MORRIS DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN?
11:56:14AM ARE YOU AGREEING WITH EVERYTHING -- YOU SAID YES?
11:56:17AM >> YES, SIR.
11:56:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:56:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HIS QUESTION IS DO YOU HAVE TO.
11:56:23AM YOU SAY THEY MAY PUT IT BACK.
11:56:26AM DO YOU HAVE TO PUT IT BACK IN STORMWATER?
11:56:29AM >> THAT IS THE IDEA.
11:56:30AM THE STORMWATER BOND ISSUE.
11:56:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT A MAY, A MUST.
11:56:37AM JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.
11:56:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:56:41AM PROCEED.
11:56:41AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
11:56:42AM THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
11:56:44AM ANY QUESTIONS.
11:56:45AM >>JOHN BENNETT: MR. MILLER IS TOO HUMBLE TO STATE THIS, BUT
11:56:49AM HE IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE ARE SO SUCCESSFUL.
11:56:51AM WITH THE PRO ACTIVITY, THE DISCLOSURE AND THE DETAIL.
11:56:55AM I DO WANT TO POINT OUT -- PARDON ME, I HAVE A PRIVILEGE OF
11:57:04AM REPRESENTING THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND TAKE A WHOLE TEAM
11:57:07AM INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL AND MR. MILLER OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS,
11:57:13AM ETC.
11:57:13AM IF I CAN SPEAK TO -- I SAW COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S REQUEST AND
11:57:17AM PERHAPS RECOMMENDATION FOR IMPROVEMENT IN THE PROCESS
11:57:20AM EARLIER ON ITEMS NUMBER 6 AND 7.
11:57:23AM AND I CAN SPEAK TO THAT IN DETAIL.
11:57:25AM BUT I WILL START WITH, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY, AND OBVIOUSLY IF
11:57:30AM COUNCIL FEELS THE PUBLIC HAVEN'T BEEN WELL INFORMED FOR ANY
11:57:34AM APPLICATION, COUNCIL CAN ALWAYS CONTINUE IT.
11:57:36AM BUT I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THIS IS REALLY THE SECOND, THIRD,
11:57:40AM MAYBE FOURTH PHASE OF THESE PROJECT ITEMS.
11:57:43AM THE FIRST BEING PRESENTATION OF THE BUDGET BACK IN AUGUST BY
11:57:47AM THE MAYOR WHERE WILL NOT ONLY WERE THESE PROJECTS REFERENCED
11:57:51AM BUT THE POTENTIAL DEBTS SERVICE ISSUANCE TO FUND THE
11:57:56AM PROJECT.
11:57:56AM THIS PRESENTATION REMAINS ON THE WEB SITE AND AGAIN ON THE
11:57:59AM FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, WE REPEATED IT.
11:58:01AM AGAIN IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY AND ALL PART OF US
11:58:05AM ADVERTISING, IF YOU WILL, OUR INTENT, COUNCIL'S INTENT TO
11:58:09AM FUND THESE PROJECTS.
11:58:10AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE CAPITAL
11:58:14AM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, THE THIRD PHASE, WHEREIN EACH PROJECT
11:58:18AM IS INDIVIDUALLY REFERENCED WITH THE POTENTIALITY OF DEBT
11:58:22AM SERVICE BEING ISSUED TO FUNDS IT.
11:58:25AM THIS WOULD BE THE FOURTH PHASE RIGHT HERE.
11:58:27AM WHEREIN WE COME FORWARD FOR THE REASONS THAT MR. MILLER HAS
11:58:31AM ALREADY EXPLAINED.
11:58:33AM WE THINK IT IS PRUDENT.
11:58:34AM WE DO THINK IT IS TRANSPARENT.
11:58:37AM AND GOOD PLANNING.
11:58:38AM GOOD PLANNING ON OUR PART.
11:58:40AM IT IS GOOD PLANNING ON THE COUNCIL'S PART TO GET THE BIG
11:58:43AM PICTURE WHAT WE INTEND TO DO FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE FUNDED
11:58:46AM FROM DEBT SERVICE.
11:58:47AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, AS YOU HEARD MR. MILLER STATE, THERE IS
11:58:52AM ANOTHER PHASE.
11:58:53AM IF WE DECIDE TO GO FORWARD WITH DEBT SERVICE, WE WILL COME
11:58:56AM TO COUNCIL AGAIN WITH EVEN MORE DETAILED INFORMATION BECAUSE
11:58:59AM BY THEN, THIS IS A VERY VOLATILE ENVIRONMENT AS EVERYBODY
11:59:04AM KNOWS BUT BY THEN WE WILL KNOW THE RATE STRUCTURE AND THE
11:59:06AM RATES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
11:59:07AM AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THIS, WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
11:59:08AM COUNCIL AND PUBLIC WHERE WE LET THE CONTRACTS.
11:59:12AM AGAIN, WHERE -- WE WILL BE COMPELLED TO REITERATE THAT THIS
11:59:17AM IS THE CASE, YOU KNOW, AND REASONS WE THINK THESE PROJECTS
11:59:19AM WERE A GOOD IDEA PREVIOUSLY, AND THEN PROBABLY THE FINAL
11:59:23AM PHASE UNTIL PROJECT CLOSE-OUT, THE PERIODIC UPDATES, AN
11:59:28AM EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF THAT, I THINK, ARE MS. JEAN DUNCAN'S
11:59:32AM STORMWATER UPDATE THAT SHE GIVES YOU, AND FORTUNATELY WE HAD
11:59:36AM A GREAT DEAL OF SUCCESS IN THOSE UPDATED PROJECT REPORTS ARE
11:59:40AM ALWAYS VERY POSITIVE.
11:59:43AM SPEAKING TO THE INCLUSION OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IN THE
11:59:46AM RESOLUTION TITLE, THAT IS TYPICAL FOR A REIMBURSEMENT
11:59:51AM RESOLUTION IN LOCALITIES BECAUSE PARTICULARLY WE ARE NOT
11:59:55AM ASKING FOR DEBT SERVICE OR ANY EXPENDITURE.
11:59:58AM HOWEVER, I CAN CERTAINLY SEE HOW THAT MIGHT BE AN
12:00:02PM OPPORTUNITY FOR CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT IF COUNCIL AND THE
12:00:06PM ADMINISTRATION FEELS THAT THAT IS ANOTHER MECHANISM TO
12:00:10PM INFORM THE PUBLIC OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
12:00:12PM SO FROM THE REVENUE AND FINANCE, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER
12:00:15PM PERSPECTIVE, THAT SEEMS LIKE A VERY REASONABLE ADDITION AS
12:00:20PM LONG AS THERE'S NO LEGAL PROHIBITION AGAINST INCLUDING THE
12:00:24PM DOLLAR AMOUNT.
12:00:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
12:00:38PM WE HAVE A MADE BY COUNCILMAN --
12:00:42PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE CAN ALWAYS INCLUDE IT.
12:00:44PM THERE ARE THINGS WE WANT TO MAKE CLEAR IN THE TITLE BECAUSE
12:00:46PM THESE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED IN THE
12:00:49PM ISSUANCE OF DEBT THAT WE MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE CONTEMPLATED
12:00:55PM IN THE FUTURE ACTION, THAT POTENTIALLY MAY HAPPEN, AND HOW
12:01:00PM THE MONEY WILL BE PAID.
12:01:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MAKER OF THE MOTION WAS TO MOVE NUMBER
12:01:07PM 6, IS THAT CORRECT?
12:01:10PM TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 6.
12:01:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
12:01:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:01:18PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:01:20PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
12:01:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:01:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:01:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES 69 YES.
12:01:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:01:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:01:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:01:33PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:01:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
12:01:36PM WITHOUT OBJECTION, COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT IS 12:00.
12:01:39PM WE WILL BE HAVING A HARD STOP AT 12:30.
12:01:43PM DO WE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT, MR. SHELBY?
12:01:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THAT'S FINE, SIR.
12:01:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:01:51PM PLEASE CONTINUE, MR. ROGERO.
12:01:53PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:01:55PM AGAIN I AM AVAILABLE.
12:01:56PM BOND COUNSEL IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
12:01:59PM AND I THINK YOU ALSO WANTED TO INCORPORATE 55, 7 AND 8 INTO
12:02:04PM THIS DISCUSSION.
12:02:05PM IF I CAN QUICKLY SUMMARIZE NUMBER 5, AGAIN, IT IS A CONTRACT
12:02:09PM THAT WE ANTICIPATE WILL BE FUNDED FROM DEBT SERVICE AT SOME
12:02:13PM POINT, SO IT HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS AGENDA ITEM, AND
12:02:18PM EXHIBIT 8, THE LIST OF POTENTIAL PROJECTS.
12:02:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:02:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE PARTS HEADED BY COUNCILMAN MEMBER
12:02:35PM GUDES?
12:02:39PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THE TAMPA RECREATION COMPLEX.
12:02:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:02:44PM >> SECOND.
12:02:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:02:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BEFORE READING ITEM NUMBER 50 I DEFINITELY
12:02:50PM HAVE A FEW THINGS SAY ABOUT IT.
12:02:52PM THE PARK IS EXCITING.
12:02:55PM WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
12:02:56PM BUT MY CONCERN WHEN I READ THIS, AND THESE WHAT I AM HEARING
12:02:59PM FROM THE PUBLIC AS WELL THIS MORNING, IS THAT WE DIDN'T GET
12:03:03PM THE RFPs, THERE WAS NOTHING, THERE WAS NO INFORMATION IN
12:03:08PM SIRE.
12:03:09PM WE DO NOT GO TO ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS.
12:03:12PM I HAVE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC THAT DURING THE MEETINGS, THE
12:03:18PM CONTRACTOR, THAT PUBLIC COMMENT WAS NOT ALLOWED.
12:03:20PM THEY WERE ALLOWED TO SIT AND LISTEN BUT THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED
12:03:22PM TO COMMENT ON IT.
12:03:24PM AND THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU
12:03:27PM KNOW, WHY DO WE INVITE THE PUBLIC?
12:03:30PM EVEN IF THEY ARE JUST GIVING COMMENTS IN THE BEGINNING, JUST
12:03:33PM SAYING WE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS THIS MORNING THAT THEIR
12:03:39PM CONCERNS ARE THAT CONTRACTUALLY THERE ARE ONLY TWO PUBLIC
12:03:42PM ENGAGEMENTS PORTIONS.
12:03:44PM SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE EAST TAMPA, THEY HAVE
12:03:49PM BEEN WANTING THIS PARK FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY HAVE VERY
12:03:53PM SPECIFIC THINGS THEY WANT TO BE SEE IN IT.
12:03:55PM SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT TWO MEETINGS IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH.
12:03:58PM I AM CONCERNED THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS AGREEMENT THAT THERE
12:04:04PM AREN'T OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE THAN TWO.
12:04:08PM I'M ALSO CONCERNED BECAUSE THIS IS THE INITIAL DESIGN AND
12:04:12PM BUILD, AND WE DON'T HAVE A MAX AMOUNT, HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE
12:04:17PM SPENDING ON THIS?
12:04:18PM THE COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED.
12:04:19PM I DO UNDERSTAND FROM COMMENTS FROM MY PLANNING MEETING FOR
12:04:25PM THIS MEETING THAT WE WILL KNOW THAT 90% IN THIS PARTICULAR
12:04:30PM PROCESS WHAT THE TOTAL COST WILL BE AND THAT THEY SAID THAT
12:04:34PM THEY'LL STICK WITHIN $40 MILLION, BUT HOW DO WE KNOW THAT?
12:04:38PM I KNOW IT STILL HAS TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF US BEFORE
12:04:41PM THAT'S APPROVED.
12:04:42PM BUT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT THAT.
12:04:44PM THEY ARE ALSO VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PERCENTAGES, AND
12:04:48PM WHILE WE HAVE THAT WITH THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE DESIGN
12:04:53PM PORTION, WHAT ABOUT THE BUILD PORTION?
12:04:55PM SO THE COMMUNITY STILL HAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, AS
12:04:59PM DO I.
12:05:00PM I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS DO.
12:05:02PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
12:05:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
12:05:07PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT HAS BEEN COMING
12:05:10PM FROM.
12:05:11PM I NEVER TALKED ABOUT THAT.
12:05:12PM I HAVE ALWAYS SAID EAST TAMPA REGIONAL COMPLEX. I DON'T
12:05:15PM KNOW WHERE THAT COMES INTO PLAY.
12:05:17PM BUT WE CAN ASK THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU HAVE SEVERAL
12:05:20PM COMMUNITIES THAT WERE THERE.
12:05:21PM AND I DON'T WANT ONE PORTION HAVING SOLE CONTROL OF AN AREA.
12:05:26PM THAT AREA IS NOT -- MAKE THAT CLEAR.
12:05:33PM THAT IS NOT CALLED FAIR OAKS AND THAT ISN'T CALLED FAIR OAKS
12:05:37PM SO I DON'T KNOW WHO HAD THE IDEA OF FAIR OAKS BECAUSE I HAD
12:05:40PM MORE COMMUNITY DATA THAN ANYBODY.
12:05:42PM WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE IS A COMPANY COME IN AND DRAG A
12:05:47PM PROGRAM OUT FOR A YEAR.
12:05:48PM I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BUT WE HAVE
12:05:51PM BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME AND THE PERSPECTIVE
12:05:55PM OF WHAT YOU DO ON THAT PA PARK, PERIOD.
12:05:58PM SO INSTEAD OF DRAGGING THAT OUT, I AM NOT FOR THAT AT ALL.
12:06:02PM IT SHOULD TAKE US NO MORE THAN MAYBE A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS
12:06:07PM FOR TO GET COMMUNICATION FROM THOSE FOUR OR FIVE
12:06:10PM ASSOCIATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY AND GET THIS PROJECT MOVING.
12:06:13PM AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO UNDERSTAND.
12:06:15PM NOT THREE OR FOUR YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, HOW FAST CAN WE BUILD
12:06:19PM IT.
12:06:20PM COST EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT.
12:06:22PM THERE'S NO POOL GOING INSIDE THAT PROJECT.
12:06:27PM WE HAVE A POOL DOWN THE STREET.
12:06:28PM THAT'S MORE MONEY THAN PUTTING A POOL IN THAT AREA BECAUSE
12:06:31PM WE GOT A POOL DOWN THE STREET.
12:06:33PM I SAID FROM DAY ONE, WE TALKED ABOUT A GREAT GYMNASTIC
12:06:38PM CENTER FOR OUR KIDS.
12:06:39PM I TALKED ABOUT ALSO MAKING SURE YOU HAVE THE BEST SENIOR
12:06:42PM CENTER WE CAN HAVE OVER THERE.
12:06:43PM WE TALKED ABOUT THE PLAN, THAT BUILDING WHICH SHOULD BE
12:06:49PM DEMOLISHED, BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT RATS AND RODENTS IN THAT
12:06:53PM BUILDING, BEING DEMOLISHED, AND SOMETHING WHERE THOSE KIDS
12:07:01PM CAN BE STAY THERE, NOT BEING TRANSFERRED OUT.
12:07:06PM SO WE TALKED ABOUT A SPLASH PAD, THE LITTLE WATER THING THAT
12:07:12PM KIDS CAN GO UP.
12:07:14PM BUT WE TALKED ABOUT THE ADA SYSTEM FOR PEOPLE, ACCESSIBLE
12:07:21PM KIDS, WHEELCHAIRS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
12:07:26PM WE TALK ABOUT POSSIBLY REBUILD.
12:07:29PM THAT COMMUNITY HAS A LOT OF -- YBOR CITY, SMALL LIKE
12:07:35PM KITCHEN, SO WE CAN HAVE TRAINING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
12:07:37PM THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE OVER THERE.
12:07:40PM SO FOR ME, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE AS-BUILD CAME IN BECAUSE
12:07:46PM AGAIN THAT COMMUNITY IS NOT CALLED FAIR OAKS, BUT THAT
12:07:49PM BUILDING IS.
12:07:50PM AND YOU HAVE FIVE TO SEVEN DIFFERENT ASSOCIATIONS OVER
12:07:53PM THERE, YOU HAVE JACKSON HEIGHTS, YOU HAVE RAINBOW HEIGHTS.
12:07:57PM I DON'T WANTS ANYBODY -- I WANT THAT AN EAST TAMPA FACILITY.
12:08:02PM I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR AND ON THE RECORD.
12:08:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO RESPOND AND SAY, NO, I AM NOT
12:08:11PM SAYING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A BUNCH OF MEETINGS.
12:08:13PM I'M SAYING THE COMMUNITIES HAVE MENTIONED TODAY THAT, YES,
12:08:16PM THEY WANT TO BE PART OF THE MEETING, BUT REALLY MORE
12:08:19PM IMPORTANTLY THEY JUST WANT TO BE KEPT UPDATED.
12:08:22PM THAT'S WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
12:08:25PM I MEAN, TWO MEETINGS IS NOT ENOUGH.
12:08:27PM BUT IN THE GRAND SCHEME, YOU AND I KNOW THAT EVERYONE
12:08:31PM WATCHING WHAT'S GOING TO GO INTO THAT PROJECT, BUT THEY WANT
12:08:35PM AN UPDATE.
12:08:36PM I'M THINKING OF IT TO BE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, OR SOUTHEAST
12:08:40PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS STORMWATER PROJECT WHERE THEY CAN JUST HAVE
12:08:44PM UPDATES, SO THAT'S WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF --
12:08:48PM BUT, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH.
12:08:51PM HOWEVER, WE GOT THIS DESIGN CRITERIA, AND I REALLY THINK
12:08:53PM THAT EVERY MEMBER OF COUNCIL IS PASSIONATE.
12:08:57PM I ASKED FOR IT BUT I DON'T THINK IT WAS GIVEN TO ANYONE
12:09:01PM ELSE.
12:09:01PM AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE.
12:09:08PM WE CAN'T GO TO EVERY SINGLE MEETING.
12:09:10PM WE CAN'T KNOW -- WE CAN'T GO IT -- I UNDERSTAND A FAIR
12:09:15PM AMOUNT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE IN THE COMMUNITY ALREADY ABOUT
12:09:19PM THIS.
12:09:20PM BUT WE DIDN'T GET ANY BACKGROUND IN THIS ITEM NUMBER THAT I
12:09:28PM WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE HAD.
12:09:30PM AND SO I AM JUST SAYING IN THE FUTURE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE
12:09:33PM THESE DESIGN CRITERIAS INCLUDED, THAT WE HAVE THIS
12:09:36PM BACKGROUND INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME.
12:09:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:09:41PM WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY, AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT
12:09:44PM LAST NIGHT.
12:09:45PM AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE, THE DESIGN BUILD STANDARD, 71% ON
12:09:53PM THIS PROJECT, AND WHEN WE GO TO CONSTRUCTION MAKING SURE
12:09:56PM THOSE NUMBERS ARE THERE BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HEAR WE
12:09:58PM ARE BUILDING A MAJOR, MAJOR PROJECT LIKE THIS IN THE
12:10:01PM COMMUNITY AND YET THOSE NUMBERS DWINDLE.
12:10:04PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE NUMBERS STAY THE WAY THEY OUGHT TO
12:10:07PM BE, AND MINORITY CONTRACTORS AT THE TABLE, AND DO THE PUBLIC
12:10:17PM ENGAGEMENT AND WE CAN HAVE THE PROJECT BUILT MUCH FASTER AND
12:10:20PM JUST GET THE MATERIALS FASTER THAN SOME WHO ARE BIDDING FOR
12:10:25PM THE JOB.
12:10:26PM THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
12:10:31PM SO I WILL SIT BACK.
12:10:32PM I SEE MS. WYNN IS THERE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE NOW WHERE
12:10:39PM THIS COUNCILMAN IS COMING FROM. FROM DAY ONE I TALKED ABOUT
12:10:42PM WHAT NEEDED TO BE, WHAT SHOULD BE, WHAT I ASKED TO DO.
12:10:45PM AND NOW GO THROUGH MEDIATION IN THE MIDDLE FOR WHAT THE GOAL
12:10:50PM IS.
12:10:50PM THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THE BEST PROJECT IN TAMPA WITH THE
12:10:54PM NUMBERS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW NAMES, AND THE SECOND
12:11:03PM LONGEST IN THE CITY, MARY BRYANT IS NUMBER ONE, AND OVER AT
12:11:11PM PARKS AND REC ALMOST 40, 50 YEARS, AND MR. MANISCALCO TALKED
12:11:16PM ABOUT MR. WHITE, A LOT OF HISTORICAL THINGS.
12:11:19PM I AM HOPING WE TALK ABOUT HISTORICAL FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY,
12:11:21PM ALSO, AND THE NAMES ON THE BENCHES OR WHATEVER.
12:11:26PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT ALL TOGETHER WITH
12:11:29PM ENGAGEMENT BUT MAKING SURE WE CAN MOVE THIS PROJECT FASTER.
12:11:32PM WHAT PEOPLE ALWAYS SEE IS, WE MOVE AHEAD, AND HOW FAST WE
12:11:37PM ARE GOING TO GET THIS BUILT.
12:11:40PM MS. WYNN?
12:11:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. WYNN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
12:11:46PM >>OCEA WYNN: ADMINISTRATOR, NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
12:11:50PM AFFAIRS.
12:11:51PM COUNCIL, I COME BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING AS THE EXECUTIVE
12:11:56PM SPONSOR FOR THE EAST TAMPA REC CENTER AND I HAVE THE HONOR
12:12:00PM OF THE PROJECT, AND WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
12:12:05PM WE HAVE HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
12:12:06PM AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT THIS PROJECT OCCURS
12:12:14PM EXPEDIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.
12:12:16PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I HEARD YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT MEMBERS OF
12:12:19PM THE PUBLIC NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS
12:12:24PM THEIR CONCERNS OR HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THE BIDDING,
12:12:32PM THAT PROCESS.
12:12:34PM WHAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO KNOW IS THAT, YES, THE PUBLIC WAS
12:12:38PM THERE, BUT NO ONE FROM THE PUBLIC STAYED PRIOR TO THE
12:12:44PM SCORING WHERE WE OFFERED THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC
12:12:47PM COMMENT.
12:12:48PM SO IT WAS NOT AS IF THEY WERE NOT AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY.
12:12:51PM THEY DID NOT STAY LONG ENOUGH TO PARTICIPATE IN THE
12:12:55PM OPPORTUNITY.
12:12:55PM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PART IS CLEAR.
12:12:58PM THE SECOND PART OF IT IS, COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE HEAR YOU IN
12:13:02PM TERMS OF THE LENGTH OF TIME.
12:13:06PM THE TWO MONTHS, LIMITED TO TWO MONTHS TIME PERIOD IN TERMS
12:13:10PM OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, TO GET THAT STRAIGHT THAT WAS AN
12:13:14PM EXAMPLE DURING THE COMMENTS AT THE HEARINGS OF THE VENDORS
12:13:21PM THAT, OH, WE CAN'T DO THIS, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DO IT IN TWO
12:13:26PM MONTHS.
12:13:26PM IT'S NOT SET IN STONE, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.
12:13:29PM IT WAS AN EXAMPLE THAT THEY SAID DURING THE PROCESS THAT IF
12:13:33PM NEEDED WE COULD DO THAT.
12:13:36PM WE HAD SOME VERY SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS IN 2019 EARLY ON WHERE
12:13:42PM WE HEARD A LOT OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED.
12:13:44PM WE TOOK THAT BACK.
12:13:46PM WE DEVELOPED A PLAN, SO THE BEAUTY OF THAT IS THAT WE ARE
12:13:50PM NOT STARTING FROM A BLANK CANVAS.
12:13:53PM WE KIND NOVEMBER WHAT'S NEEDED ALREADY.
12:13:55PM HOWEVER, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT GOING FORWARD, WE STILL
12:14:00PM LISTEN TO COMMUNITY INPUT.
12:14:04PM WE HAVE ONBOARDED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
12:14:12PM SO I JUST OFFER TO YOU, GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY.
12:14:14PM WE HEAR YOU.
12:14:16PM GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS WORK AND COME BACK AND
12:14:21PM PRESENT BEFORE YOU INFORMATION, UPDATE YOU, SO AS YOU ARE
12:14:27PM HEARING THINGS FROM THE PUBLIC -- YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE YOU
12:14:36PM CAN DIRECT YOUR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS TO, AND WE CAN GET YOU
12:14:39PM THE INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED SO THAT YOU CAN SATISFY YOUR
12:14:44PM CONSTITUENTS.
12:14:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THIS?
12:14:52PM I CAN SEE YOU JUMPED UP.
12:14:53PM >> BECAUSE WE ARE A DUO.
12:14:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU GOT THE POWER HOUSE.
12:15:00PM >> DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, SHERISHA HILLS.
12:15:06PM SO --
12:15:08PM >> A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
12:15:13PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T.
12:15:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
12:15:20PM MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:15:23PM ANY FURTHER AND FINAL DISCUSSION?
12:15:26PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:15:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THAT, AND I
12:15:30PM AM NOTING THAT, AND WE WILL ABSOLUTELY STAY IN TOUCH ON THIS
12:15:33PM PROJECT.
12:15:33PM BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:15:34PM >>OCEA WYNN: THANK YOU.
12:15:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT I DO WANT YOU TO HAVE A QUICK
12:15:40PM CONVERSATION WITH MS. HEWITT AS SHE LEAVES BECAUSE SHE
12:15:47PM INDICATES THAT THERE WAS NO CHANCE, OR SHE DID NOT KNOW
12:15:50PM ABOUT THE CHANCE TO COMMENT.
12:15:51PM SO LET'S CORRECT THAT FOR FUTURE PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS.
12:15:55PM >>OCEA WYNN: ABSOLUTELY.
12:15:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO APPRECIATE IT.
12:15:59PM WE ARE ALL LEARNING AND ALWAYS IMPROVING SO THANK YOU VERY
12:16:02PM MUCH.
12:16:02PM >>OCEA WYNN: AND CHAIRMAN CITRO, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY
12:16:06PM FOR ME TO INTRODUCE THE TWO OF OUR -- THAT WILL BE ON THE
12:16:13PM PROJECT OR NOT?
12:16:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
12:16:15PM BECAUSE YOU ASKED SO NICELY, YES.
12:16:17PM >>OCEA WYNN: THANK YOU.
12:16:18PM >> GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.
12:16:20PM I'M KIM JACKSON WITH KPJIMPTR.
12:16:25PM I'LL BE HANDLING ALL THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND PUBLIC
12:16:28PM RELATIONS.
12:16:28PM AND WE HAVE MARY HALLIS WHO WILL BE OUR ARCHITECT AND LEAD
12:16:33PM POINT ON THE PROJECT.
12:16:35PM I HEARD QUITE A FEW THINGS.
12:16:38PM WE HAVE NEVER HAD -- IN THE PRESENTATION I DID JULIAN B.
12:16:41PM LANE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND WE DID HAVE PUBLIC PEOPLE THERE.
12:16:45PM AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DID FIND DURING OUR PROJECT, WE HAD
12:16:48PM PEOPLE WALKING IN.
12:16:50PM PEOPLE THEY DIDN'T KNOW AND IT'S VERY DISTRACTING WHEN YOU
12:16:53PM ARE DOING A PRESENTATION.
12:16:54PM AND A LARGE PORTION OF THE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO
12:16:57PM SPOKE CAME AFTER OUR PRESENTATION AND AFTER WE SPOKE ABOUT
12:17:00PM WHERE IT CAME TOWARD THE END OF QUESTION AND ANSWER.
12:17:03PM SO I KNOW THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
12:17:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
12:17:11PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:17:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUNG LADY.
12:17:17PM YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE MAJOR PLAYERS OVER THERE.
12:17:21PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW WHO THEY REALLY ARE.
12:17:24PM I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE NAMES OF THE MAJOR PLAYERS BECAUSE
12:17:26PM THOSE MAJOR PLAYERS CALL ME ALL THE TIME.
12:17:29PM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE SO YOU CAN BE
12:17:32PM ENGAGED WITH THOSE FOLKS.
12:17:33PM >> WE DID A SAMPLING WHERE WE INTERVIEWED THE JAZZY SENIORS,
12:17:40PM WE INTERVIEWED AS OUR SECOND GROUP THE EMPLOYEES OF THE
12:17:43PM PARK, AND THEN AS OUR THIRD GROUP WE INTERVIEWED THE YOUNG
12:17:47PM KIDS 11 TO 14, THEY ACTUALLY USE THE PARK EVERY DAY.
12:17:52PM SO THE CITY HAD A LIST OF WHAT THEY WANTED, AND WE GOT A
12:17:55PM LIST OF WHAT THEY WANTED, AND IN OUR PRESENTATION WE HAD TO
12:17:59PM CIRCLE WHERE EVERYBODY IMPRESSION, AND THEN WE HAD PARTS OF
12:18:04PM THOSE THINGS THEY WANTED. NOW THE CITY SAYS THEY DON'T WANT
12:18:06PM A POOL, BUT ALL THOSE GROUPS SAID THEY WANT A POOL BECAUSE
12:18:09PM THE YOUNG PEOPLE SAID THEY HAVE A TWO-WEEK SWIMMING PROGRAM
12:18:13PM THAT THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO FINISH BECAUSE BY THE TIME THEY
12:18:16PM WALK DOWN TO THE POOL, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING RAIN OR IT'S
12:18:20PM THUNDER AND LIGHTNING, THEY HAVE TO WALK BACK.
12:18:22PM SO THEY HAVE YET TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY COMPLETE A TWO-WEEK
12:18:27PM SWIMMING PROGRAM.
12:18:28PM SO THEN THE SENIORS AND THE PARK STAFF WERE SAYING ABOUT
12:18:32PM HAVING A POOL.
12:18:33PM THEY ALL AGREED THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE SEPARATE BUILDINGS.
12:18:36PM THE SENIORS SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE RUN OVER BY
12:18:39PM CHILDREN.
12:18:39PM AND THEN THE ADULTS WANT TO USE THE GYM THAT ARE IN THE AREA
12:18:42PM BUT THEY CAN'T USE IT DURING THE TIMES WHEN THE CHILDREN ARE
12:18:45PM IN THERE.
12:18:47PM THEY ALL SAID THEY WANTED A NEW BUILDING.
12:18:50PM THEY WERE TIRED OF THE BARS ON THE WINDOW.
12:18:52PM THE KIDS HAD REALLY GOOD THINGS THAT THEY WANTED ALL OF
12:18:55PM THEM, AND THE COMMUNITY SAID THEY WANTED A COOKING AREA
12:18:58PM WHERE THEY CAN TAKE COOKING CLASSES AND LEARN.
12:19:00PM KIDS SAID THEY WANTED A GAMING ROOM.
12:19:04PM THEY WANTED TO DO FAIR OAKS MERCHANDISE BECAUSE THEY CALL IT
12:19:07PM FAIR OAKS PARK.
12:19:08PM THEY WANTED -- THEY HAVE MORE THAN ENTREPRENEURIAL
12:19:12PM EXPERIENCE THAN WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER.
12:19:14PM SO THEY HAD SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS.
12:19:16PM THEY HAD SOME IDEAS THAT CHILDREN WOULD COME OUT WITH LIKE
12:19:18PM THEY WANTED A RACETRACK AROUND THE PARK, AND THEY WANTED
12:19:24PM THEY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND SEE WHAT WAS IN THE
12:19:27PM MIDDLE.
12:19:27PM BUT I DID DO THAT AS A SAMPLING SO THAT WE CAN SHOW AS A
12:19:31PM PRESENTATION THAT WE DO HAVE AN UNDERSTAND OF COMMUNITY
12:19:34PM ENGAGEMENT.
12:19:35PM AND TAKING SOME OF THE TECHNIQUES WITH JULIAN B. LANE WHERE
12:19:39PM WE HIRED PEOPLE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE GO ACTUALLY
12:19:43PM DOOR TO DOOR, SO THAT THEY CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE
12:19:46PM WE NOTICED PEOPLE THROW IT OUT IN THE GARBAGE CAN, WE WILL
12:19:50PM BE USING EVENT SOFTWARE WHERE WE HAVE 1300 RESIDENTS
12:19:55PM DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE PUBLIC FORUM THAT WE WILL BE
12:19:57PM USING.
12:19:58PM THERE WAS 500 AND THEN THE OTHER 800 VIRTUALLY THROUGH THE
12:20:04PM APP.
12:20:05PM WE DID CREATE A DESIGN ALREADY TO START, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN
12:20:12PM SEE, WELL, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO SHOW WHEN THEY LOOK IN
12:20:16PM THE APPLE OR IN THE GOOGLE STORE, THE DESIGN WILL POP UP.
12:20:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:20:25PM I DO APPRECIATE IT.
12:20:26PM MR. ROGERO, ON ITEMS NUMBER 7 AND 8, HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO
12:20:30PM YOU NEED?
12:20:33PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I NEED NO MORE TIME, MR. CHAIR.
12:20:36PM MY PRESENTATION, MR. MILLER HAS MADE HIS STATEMENTS.
12:20:39PM WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
12:20:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 7.
12:20:47PM OKAY. WHO MADE THE MOTION FOR NUMBER 5?
12:20:51PM CARLSON.
12:20:51PM ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT, PLEASE.
12:20:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:20:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:20:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:20:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:20:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:20:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:20:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:21:00PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:21:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 7.
12:21:03PM >> SECOND.
12:21:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO
12:21:06PM MOVE ITEM NUMBER 7.
12:21:07PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:21:09PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:21:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:21:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:21:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:21:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:21:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:21:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:21:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:21:18PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:21:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 8.
12:21:21PM >> SECOND.
12:21:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO MOVE AGENDA NUMBER 8 BY
12:21:24PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:21:26PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:21:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:21:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:21:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:21:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:21:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:21:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:21:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:21:34PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:21:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM
12:21:41PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TPO/MPO THAT HAS BEEN SITTING HERE
12:21:46PM WAITING PATIENTLY FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11.
12:21:50PM DO WE HAVE THE TIME TO HEAR HER PRESENTATION?
12:21:56PM I WOULD RATHER HER STATE NOW, BUT IF IT'S GOING TO RUN LONG,
12:22:00PM WE HAVE TO BREAK AT 12:30.
12:22:04PM WE HAVE TO BE BACK AT 1:30.
12:22:06PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:22:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:22:09PM WE CAN HEAR MS. ALDEN, WHO IS A WONDERFUL PERSON, BUT WE
12:22:13PM WOULD HAVE TO LIMIT COMMENTS, ET CETERA AND EXPEDITE IT.
12:22:16PM I THINK WE CAN GET IT DONE IN TEN MINUTES, FRANKLY.
12:22:19PM BUT I NEED TO LEAVE HERE BY 4:50 TODAY.
12:22:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE
12:22:30PM EARLIER.
12:22:30PM THERE'S A TIME CERTAIN.
12:22:36PM IF WE ARE LEAVING THE ROOM, COULD WE LEAVE THE ROOM QUIETLY,
12:22:39PM PLEASE?
12:22:49PM MS. ALDEN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
12:22:52PM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
12:22:55PM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR BRINGING UP THIS ITEM THIS MORNING.
12:22:59PM I AM THE DIRECTOR OF THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING
12:23:01PM ORGANIZATION OF WHICH THE CITY OF TAMPA IS A MEMBER.
12:23:07PM THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
12:23:10PM SETTING PRIORITY TO GUIDE HOW FEDERAL DOLLARS ARE SPENT IN
12:23:15PM THIS AREA ON TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
12:23:19PM WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR REVIEW OF THE
12:23:26PM MEMBERSHIP OF THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, AND
12:23:29PM ELIZABETH WALKER, OUR PRINCIPAL PLANNER, HAS A VERY SHORT
12:23:33PM PRESENTATION FOR YOU GOING OVER HOW THAT REVIEW IS
12:23:38PM CONDUCTED.
12:23:39PM WE ARE SEEKING YOUR SUPPORT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A
12:23:42PM MEMBERSHIP REAPPORTIONMENT PLAN.
12:23:44PM >> ELIZABETH, CPO STAFF.
12:23:50PM I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK, VERY CLEARLY OUTLINE WHAT THE MPO IS,
12:23:54PM WHAT THE PLAN IS, AND WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY IS TO SEEK YOUR
12:23:58PM SUPPORT ON THIS PLAN.
12:24:00PM SO A KEY PART OF THE PLAN IS FEDERAL STATUTES OH TO LOOK
12:24:08PM EVERY TEN YEARS.
12:24:09PM WHAT THAT POPULATION DATA SHOWS IS THAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
12:24:12PM AND AREA HAS 69% OF THE POPULATION WHILE CITY OF TAMPA HAS
12:24:18PM 26 AND THE REST SPRIT BETWEEN TEMPLE TERRACE AND PLANT CITY.
12:24:24PM ON AUGUST 10th, THE BOARD VOTED TO CHANGE THEIR VOTING
12:24:27PM MEMBERSHIP TO INCREASE THE VOTING MEMBERSHIP FOR
12:24:30PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FOR TWO ADDITIONAL SEATS.
12:24:33PM AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS CHART, WITH THIS CHANGE, THAT WOULD
12:24:37PM MAKE ALL SEVEN MEMBERS ALSO MEMBERS OF THE MPO, MAKE ABOUT
12:24:42PM 40% OF THE REPRESENTATION OF MPO, ALTHOUGH THAT'S 69% OF THE
12:24:48PM POPULATION REPRESENTATION IN THE COUNTY.
12:24:50PM THE REMAINDER MEMBERSHIP WOULD NOT CHANGE AS PROPOSED BY THE
12:24:55PM TPO, CITY OF TAMPA HAVING THREE MEMBERS AND ALL THE OTHER
12:24:58PM JURISDICTIONS AND TRANSPORTATION AGENCIES HAVE ONE SEAT.
12:25:04PM SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS.
12:25:06PM AND WITH THIS PLAN WE WILL ALSO BE GOING TO THE OTHER
12:25:12PM JURISDICTIONS TO SEEK THEIR SUPPORT AND SUBMIT TO THEM FOR
12:25:15PM THEIR APPROVAL.
12:25:17PM WITH THAT STATED WE WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER IF YOU WOULD TAKE
12:25:20PM INTO CONSIDERATION THE PLAN.
12:25:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
12:25:33PM SEEING NONE, IT'S BASED ON POPULATION.
12:25:37PM HOWEVER, IF THAT POPULATION STAYED IN ONE PLACE, 24/7, THAT
12:25:41PM WOULD MAKE SENSE.
12:25:44PM MY CONCERN IS THIS, THAT THE POPULATION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
12:25:50PM DOUBLES EACH AND EVERY DAY.
12:25:54PM WE HAVE MORE TRANSPORTATION, IN MY OPINION, MORE
12:25:58PM TRANSPORTATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, THAT AGAIN IN MY
12:26:02PM OPINION ARE NOT BEING MET.
12:26:04PM THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THROUGH UNINCORPORATED HILLSBOROUGH
12:26:08PM COUNTY COME INTO THE CITY TO WORK.
12:26:10PM NOW, WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE COME FROM PINELLAS, POLK, PASCO
12:26:15PM COUNTY, MANATEE, HERNANDO, COMING IN AND USING THE CITY OF
12:26:20PM TAMPA'S ROADWAYS TO WORK.
12:26:23PM WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM ALL PLACES COMING IN FOR SPORTING
12:26:27PM EVENTS, COMING IN -- WE HAVE TWO MAJOR, MAJOR COMPANIES, I
12:26:35PM WOULD LIKE TO SAY NUMBER ONE IN THE UNITED STATES BUT IT'S
12:26:37PM THE NUMBER TWO AIRPORT, PEOPLE FROM POLK, PINELLAS, PASCO,
12:26:44PM SARASOTA, COME IN TO FLY IN AND OUT OF.
12:26:47PM WE HAVE THE TENTH LARGEST DEEP WATER PORT WHERE MAJOR
12:26:52PM TRAFFIC COMES IN TO MOVE GOODS HEATH TO THE WORLD OR FROM
12:26:55PM THE WORLD.
12:26:58PM I FEEL THE TV NEEDS MORE REPRESENTATION
12:27:07PM I HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD SAY ONE MORE PERSON FROM THE
12:27:10PM BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND --
12:27:19PM NOW I AM NOT ASKING FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL RIGHT NOW BUT ALSO
12:27:21PM ASKING FOR THE FUTURE OF THE NEED OF THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA
12:27:23PM AND THE TRANSPORTATION AND THE TRAFFIC AND THE ROADS THAT WE
12:27:29PM HAVE HERE IN TAMPA.
12:27:30PM ONLY 19 PERCENT OF THE ROADS ARE CITY OF TAMPA ROADS.
12:27:35PM THE OTHERS ARE STATE AND COUNTY.
12:27:42PM WE ARE ASKED TO BE CUSTODIANS OF THOSE ROADS.
12:27:47PM SO WHAT MS. ALDEN IS ASKING TODAY, THAT WE ADOPT ONE OF
12:27:53PM THESE RESOLUTIONS, THAT WE PASS ONE OF THESE RESOLUTIONS,
12:27:58PM WHETHER IT BE THE RESOLUTION WHERE TWO BOARD OF COUNTY
12:28:01PM COMMISSIONERS ARE PUT ON, OR I WOULD ASK FOR TWO MORE CITY
12:28:07PM COUNCIL, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I HAVE IN MY RESOLUTION, WHICH
12:28:10PM IS ONE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION, ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
12:28:22PM THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE CAN HAVE.
12:28:24PM I KNOW THE WAY I WANT TO GO.
12:28:27PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:28:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION OR ARE YOU GOING TO
12:28:41PM WAIT?
12:28:42PM >> IS THAT A MOTION?
12:28:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM WAITING FOR ANY MORE COMMENTS OR
12:28:52PM QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION.
12:28:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK YOU MADE A PRESENTATION OF THE
12:28:59PM CASE BASED ON THE HISTORICAL FACTORS, AND WHETHER YOU LIKE
12:29:04PM IT OR NOT LIKE IT, WHETHER I WANT IT OR DON'T WANT IT, THERE
12:29:09PM ARE PEOPLE WHO COME INTO THE METROPOLITAN AREA NO MATTER
12:29:12PM WHAT IT IS AND THEY COME IN AND THEY USE THE TRAFFIC, THEY
12:29:15PM USE THE LANE, THEY USE THE AMENITIES, WHATEVER CITY IT IS
12:29:18PM AND THEY GO BARK HOME.
12:29:19PM SO MAYBE ON BOTH SIDES THERE SHOULD BE A CONSIDERATION ON,
12:29:30PM AND CERTAINLY THAT HAPPENS IN EVERY CITY THROUGHOUT THE
12:29:32PM UNITED STATES OF AMERICA OF ANY SUBSTANCE.
12:29:34PM THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY, EVEN ON EVENTS, TO SPORTING
12:29:39PM EVENTS TO OPERA EVENTS TO MUSIC AT THE PARK, THEY COME IN TO
12:29:44PM WHEREVER THAT EVENT IS.
12:29:52PM WE END UP IN A BIG METROPOLITAN AREA AND THE COUNTY HAS A
12:29:54PM LOT OF LAND, YOU WILL FIND 400,000 PEOPLE IN ONE AREA AND
12:30:00PM THAT'S WHAT HE'S TRYING TO EXPLAIN IN A NICE WAY.
12:30:02PM BUT I AM NOT A NICE GUY.
12:30:05PM SO THAT'S HOW IT IS.
12:30:07PM SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS, LET'S COME TOGETHER AND LET'S COME
12:30:10PM TO SOME AMICABLE AGREEMENT SO WE CAN ALL AND SERVE THE
12:30:16PM PUBLIC TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
12:30:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT FEEDBACK BEFORE WE
12:30:22PM VOTE BUT I WOULD RELY ON YOUR EXPERIENCE ON THE BOARD TO
12:30:26PM GIVE THIS RECOMMENDATION.
12:30:27PM IF YOU MAKE THE MOTION I'LL SUPPORT IT.
12:30:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:30:30PM ANYBODY ELSE?
12:30:31PM YES, SIR?
12:30:33PM THIS IS THE RESOLUTION.
12:30:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE CLARIFIED THAT
12:30:39PM THE RESOLUTION DOES NOT CHANGE.
12:30:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S JUST A LETTER.
12:30:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S A RESOLUTION OF CITY COUNCIL.
12:30:47PM BUT, I MEAN, MAYBE MR. CHAIRMAN FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY YOU
12:30:50PM MIGHT WANT TO READ THE TITLE OF THE RESOLUTION, AND THAT
12:30:53PM MIGHT JUST MAKE IT CLEAR.
12:30:54PM AND IF THERE IS A RESPONSE OR A COMMENT EITHER WAY, BUT BE
12:30:59PM PREPARED TO VOTE.
12:31:01PM THAT WILL BE FINE.
12:31:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE DON'T HAVE A NUMBER ON IT BUT A
12:31:04PM RESOLUTION SUPPORTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE HILLSBOROUGH
12:31:08PM MPO/TPO 2022 -- LET ME REPHRASE THAT.
12:31:14PM WE ARE CALLING IT THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION
12:31:16PM BUT IT IS STILL LISTED LEGALLY AS THE MPO.
12:31:19PM RESOLUTION TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
12:31:22PM MPO 2022 MEMBERSHIP APPOINTMENT PLAN FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
12:31:26PM IS JURISDICTION SCHOOL BOARD, PLANNING COMMISSION AND
12:31:30PM TRANSPORTATION OPERATING, BY INCREASING VOTING MEMBERSHIP TO
12:31:35PM EIGHT VOTING MEMBERS -- EXCUSE ME -- 18 VOTING MEMBERS
12:31:42PM THROUGH THE ADDITION OF ONE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMISSIONER
12:31:45PM AND ONE CITY OF TAMPA MEMBER, TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE,
12:31:54PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:31:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BELIEVE MR. CARLSON SECONDED THE
12:32:00PM MOTION.
12:32:00PM SOMEBODY DID.
12:32:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I BELIEVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK DID BUT I DID
12:32:06PM WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING.
12:32:07PM THIS WILL BE SENT TO THE MPO.
12:32:11PM THIS DOESN'T MEAN THIS IS GOING INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
12:32:15PM THIS IS THE CITY COUNCIL, ALL SEVEN OF US, RECOMMENDATION TO
12:32:21PM THE MPO.
12:32:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND IT MAY NEVER GET APPROVED.
12:32:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, AS FAR AS WE KNOW.
12:32:27PM BUT I JUST WANT OUR VOICE TO BE HEARD ABOUT OUR
12:32:31PM TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT WE, THE CITY OF
12:32:34PM TAMPA, FACE EVERY DAY.
12:32:37PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:32:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:32:39PM ALTHOUGH I TAKE OFFENSE WE HAVE A MOTION.
12:32:54PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:32:57PM DO WE NEED A ROLE CALL?
12:32:59PM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.
12:33:03PM (ROLL CALL VOTE)
12:33:05PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH GUDES BEING
12:33:11PM ABSENT.
12:33:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: JOE LOPANO IN 2010 OUR AIRPORT DROPPED
12:33:19PM BELOW THE TOP 10 DOMESTICALLY SO IT'S BEEN A BIG TURNAROUND.
12:33:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: KUDOS TO HIM.
12:33:27PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:33:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH ONLY AN HOUR.
12:33:31PM I HAD PLANNED SOMETHING FOR WORK FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF
12:33:33PM BECAUSE IF I HAD KNOWN THAT, I WOULD NOT HAVE APPROVED
12:33:37PM 12:30.
12:33:39PM IS THAT OKAY?
12:33:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. ALDEN, BEFORE YOU WENT AWAY, I WANT TO
12:33:46PM THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS HERE.
12:33:47PM AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY ISSUES.
12:33:54PM WE HAVE YOU A TIME CERTAIN 1:30.
12:33:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN SETTLE ON 1:45.
12:34:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S DO 2:00.
12:34:12PM (RECESS)
1:51:50PM (TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECONVENES)
2:02:13PM (ROLL CALL)
2:02:15PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
2:02:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:02:20PM WE WILL START BACK WITH THE STAFF REPORTS.
2:02:22PM AGENDA ITEM 9.
2:02:24PM ITEM NUMBER 9.
2:02:25PM MS. FEELEY.
2:02:26PM >> ITEM NUMBER 9 IS AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING FUNDING
2:02:35PM AGREEMENT FOR HOPWA FUND.
2:02:48PM IT IS A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT EACH YEAR WITH A MILLION DOLLAR
2:02:52PM AND BY GIVING TO THIS 3.25 MILLION MARK, SO.
2:03:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:03:10PM MS. FEELEY.
2:03:12PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE.
2:03:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:03:19PM AND IN THIS THREE YEAR PLAN HAVE WE PAID ANYTHING INTO IT?
2:03:24PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ALL OF OUR FUNDS ARE ALWAYS REIMBURSABLE
2:03:27PM FUNDS SO THIS WAS ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT CAME DOWN, AND
2:03:31PM THEY DO A GOOD JOB, TO GIVE ADDITIONAL MONEY, WHICH THEN
2:03:35PM OBVIOUSLY NEEDS MORE WORK BUT THIS IS THE THIRD YEAR OF THE
2:03:40PM AGREEMENT.
2:03:41PM SO WE HAVE ALREADY ALLOCATED THE FIRST TWO YEARS AND THIS
2:03:45PM WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 30,000.
2:03:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PERFECT.
2:03:49PM S MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:03:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:03:56PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:03:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:04:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:04:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:04:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:04:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:04:06PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA AND
2:04:08PM GUDES BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:04:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, 22-7774.
2:04:17PM >> COUNCIL CHAIR, GOOD AFTERNOON.
2:04:23PM CHUCK CONKLIN, DIRECTOR OF WEST MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.
2:04:30PM WITH ITEM NUMBER 10, SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, WASTE ENERGY
2:04:33PM FACILITY, IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR A THREE YEAR CONTRACT
2:04:37PM WITH PUBLIC SERVICES TRASH DISPOSAL AT THE REPUBLIC SERVICES
2:04:41PM LANDFILL LOCATED IN BARTOW, FLORIDA.
2:04:45PM WE GENERATE ABOUT 70 TO 80,000 TONS OF ASH PER YEAR, SO THIS
2:04:52PM IS A THREE YEAR CONTRACT, $1,412,000 PER YEAR FOR THREE
2:05:02PM YEARS, OR $4,238,400.
2:05:13PM A PLACE TO DISPOSE OF THE ASH AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING
2:05:17PM FOR.
2:05:17PM I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
2:05:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED
2:05:27PM BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:05:28PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:05:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:05:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:05:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:05:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:05:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:05:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:05:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:05:37PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:05:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NUMBER 12.
2:05:41PM FILE F-22-76699.
2:05:49PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
2:05:51PM MR. SHELBY AND I ATTENDED A MEETING OF THE CITIZENS BUDGET
2:05:57PM FINANCE COMMITTEE LAST FRIDAY, AND WE DISCUSSED THE CURRENT
2:06:00PM RULES THAT PERTAIN TO THEM BY CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION, AND
2:06:07PM MR. SHELBY AND I WORKED ON A DRAFT RESOLUTION TO INCORPORATE
2:06:12PM YOUR COMMENTS AND HAVE IT FOR YOUR REVIEW.
2:06:15PM WE ARE NOT ASKING THAT YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TODAY BUT
2:06:18PM JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE ANY
2:06:21PM COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS WE ARE BOTH AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THEM
2:06:23PM OR MAKE CHANGES TO THE RESOLUTION, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME
2:06:28PM CHANGES.
2:06:29PM THERE IS A BLANK THERE FOR COUNCILMAN GUDES' APPOINTEE TO
2:06:33PM THE COMMITTEE SINCE MR. DOBSON RESIGNED.
2:06:36PM SO WE WILL BE NO POSITION AFTER QUESTIONS AN COMMENTS AND
2:06:40PM GET THOSE INCORPORATED INTO THIS TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR
2:06:44PM ADOPTION.
2:06:44PM THIS IS TO READOPT IN TOTO, SO RULES WOULD BE APPLICABLE FOR
2:06:49PM THIS COMMITTEE.
2:06:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:06:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOULD YOU WANT TO COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS FOR
2:06:57PM THIS?
2:06:57PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT'S FINE.
2:06:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS.
2:07:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
2:07:03PM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
2:07:05PM I WANT TO THANK MR. MASSEY FOR ALL THE WORK THAT HE PUT IN
2:07:08PM ON THIS, AND I APPRECIATE ALL HIS EFFORTS.
2:07:14PM I DID ATTEND MR. MASSEY A MEETING THIS PAST FRIDAY, AND I
2:07:21PM THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING BASED ON -- HIS
2:07:24PM COMMITTEE IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH MR. PERRY, THE BUDGET
2:07:28PM OFFICER, WORKING OUT A WORK PLAN FOR THE COME YEAR.
2:07:31PM THEY ARE GOING TO BE MEETING ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
2:07:34PM AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE IT.
2:07:40PM THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE, AND ALSO
2:07:44PM CERTAINLY ON TRACK.
2:07:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHEN DID YOU WANT TO BRING THIS BACK?
2:07:50PM >> TWO WEEKS.
2:07:52PM WOULD TWO WEEKS BE ENOUGH FOR YOU, MR. MASSEY?
2:07:55PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: ABSOLUTELY.
2:07:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TWO WEEKS.
2:08:02PM I DON'T REALLY THINK THIS IS GOING TO TAKE ANY DISCUSSION.
2:08:04PM THINK IT WILL BE JUST BE PRESENTING IT TO YOU ALL AND FOR
2:08:07PM YOU ALL TO ADOPT IT.
2:08:08PM IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS WE ARE AVAILABLE AND
2:08:12PM JUST FINALIZE IT.
2:08:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SHOULD ALSO POINT OUT, THEY DID ACTUALLY
2:08:18PM REVIEW THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMITTEE, AND THE COMMITTEE'S
2:08:20PM DECISION.
2:08:21PM IF YOU WISH TO SEE THE MINUTES, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN PREPARED
2:08:24PM YET, BUT THE PURPOSE IS UNCHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS
2:08:27PM ORDINANCE.
2:08:28PM IS THAT CORRECT?
2:08:29PM >> THAT IS CORRECT.
2:08:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO BRING IT BACK IN TWO WEEKS.
2:08:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:08:36PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:08:38PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:08:40PM THANK YOU.
2:08:44PM WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12?
2:08:47PM NO, I'M SORRY, 13.
2:08:49PM FILE CM 22-74052.
2:08:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
2:09:01PM WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD PEOPLE COMING UP TO SPEAK ON SOME
2:09:07PM THINGS THAT IS A REALLY BIG DEAL FOR OUR CITY OF TAMPA.
2:09:10PM IT'S GOING TO BE 50 YEARS SINCE WE HIRED OUR FIRST TAMPA
2:09:15PM POLICE OFFICER WHO WAS A WOMAN, AND THAT WAS THE LATE LENORA
2:09:21PM BOOTH, AND I HAVE MR. RYAN SULLIVAN PUTTING UP A COUPLE OF
2:09:26PM PICTURES.
2:09:27PM THERE'S LENORA BOOTH WHEN SHE WAS SWORN IN.
2:09:30PM THERE'S A PICTURE OF HER ALSO IN ABOUT 73 OR 74, SO
2:09:35PM SOMETHING THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TODAY, AND CLARA REYNOLDS OF
2:09:40PM THE CRISIS CENTER IS THE PROUD DAUGHTER OF LENORA BOOTH
2:09:43PM PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT HER MOM AND SOMETHING THAT IS SO
2:09:46PM IMPORTANT.
2:09:46PM WE KNOW THAT ABOUT ONE IN SEVEN NATIONALLY OF POLICE
2:09:51PM OFFICERS ARE WOMEN.
2:09:52PM IT WASN'T ALWAYS LIKE THAT, AS FAR BACK AS 1987 THE NUMBER
2:09:56PM WAS ABOUT 7.6%.
2:09:58PM IT CONTINUES TO GO UP, LITTLE BY LITTLE BY LITTLE, BUT HERE
2:10:03PM IN TAMPA WE HAVE OUR PIONEER OF OFFICER BOOTH, AND FOR ME,
2:10:08PM WHEN I SAW THIS, THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THE 50 YEAR
2:10:12PM MARK, I WANTED TO USE A MEMORIAL CENTERING ON NOT JUST
2:10:18PM LENORA BOOTH BUT OTHERS WHO WILL COME AFTER HER IN DIFFERENT
2:10:21PM AREAS.
2:10:23PM AN AFRICAN FEMALE OFFICER, A FEMALE OFFICER, ET CETERA,
2:10:27PM ET CETERA.
2:10:28PM FOR ME THIS IS ABOUT RESPECT FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT
2:10:32PM OFFICERS, THIS IS ABOUT RESPECT FOR THE JOURNEY THAT MANY
2:10:36PM WOMEN HAVE TAKEN INCLUDING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND IN BEING
2:10:39PM FIRST RESPONDERS.
2:10:40PM NOW, I DID SOME RESEARCH, AND CLARA AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS
2:10:45PM FOR LENORA BOOTH, WHO BECOMES THE FIRST WOMAN TO SERVE AS A
2:10:49PM TAMPA POLICE OFFICER AT THE AGE OF 24.
2:10:51PM SHE'S A USF GRADUATE, WOULD MAJOR IN PSYCHOLOGY.
2:10:56PM SHE WOULD SERVE FOR 12 YEARS AS A TAMPA POLICE OFFICER, AND
2:11:00PM INVESTIGATE SEX CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN, BECOME A DETECTIVE,
2:11:03PM AND WAS PROMOTED TO A SERGEANT IN APRIL OF 1982.
2:11:08PM SHE WAS ADAMANT THAT SHE DID NOT APPLY TO BECOME A PIONEER
2:11:12PM BUT SHE HAPPENED TO BE A PIONEER BY VIRTUE OF WHAT SHE DID.
2:11:17PM SHE TOOK ON MANY HIGH PROFILE ARRESTING CASES ALL OF WHICH
2:11:22PM SHE WAS A PROTECTOR FOR PEOPLE WHO NEEDED PROTECTING,
2:11:26PM PROTECTED THE COMMUNITY FROM DRUGS, PROTECTED THE COMMUNITY
2:11:29PM FROM SEX OFFENDERS AND OTHER PEOPLE, RAPISTS, ET CETERA.
2:11:33PM SOME OF THEM MORE HIGH PROFILE CASES INCLUDED 1974 WHEN SHE
2:11:37PM ARRESTED A 17-YEAR-OLD NEAR BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL FOR RANGE A
2:11:42PM 14-YEAR-OLD.
2:11:43PM A VERY DIFFICULT CASE TO TAKE ON. IN 1978 I WAS TALKING TO
2:11:47PM CLARA ABOUT THIS.
2:11:49PM SHE HAD A VERY INTERESTING CASE WHERE SHE AND ANOTHER
2:11:51PM OFFICER DODGED AN AMBUSH, IT APPEARED, BY FRANCISCO JUNIOR
2:11:58PM ALVAREZ.
2:12:00PM THEY HAD GONE UNDERCOVER AND PURCHASED 1978, $360,000 WORTH
2:12:05PM OF COCAINE.
2:12:06PM THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
2:12:07PM THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
2:12:09PM AND AS APPARENTLY THEY WERE LEAVING THE SCENE, I GUESS THE
2:12:12PM DRUG DEALERS SAID, HEY, THESE ARE COPS, AND STARTED SHOOTING
2:12:15PM AT THEIR CAR AND I'M SURE MR. MIRANDA REMEMBERS THAT, I'M
2:12:20PM SURE.
2:12:21PM I'M SURE HE REMEMBERS THAT AS WELL.
2:12:24PM MANY OTHER FIRSTS INCLUDING POLICE MAJOR WAS THE TAMPA
2:12:31PM FEMALE COMMANDER AT TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
2:12:33PM SHE WOULD CHALLENGE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT'S 5-FOOT 8
2:12:37PM RESTRICTION AS A MINIMUM ON BEING HIRED.
2:12:41PM THAT DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS WOMEN, OBVIOUSLY.
2:12:45PM SHE WAS ALSO A PIONEER, IN 1993 SHE TOLD REPORTERS SHE
2:12:51PM SUFFERED FROM SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND SHE WAS PUBLIC ABOUT THE
2:12:54PM JOURNEY THAT SHE WOULD TAKE WHICH MANY WOMEN TOOK, OCTOBER
2:12:58PM OF 2009, JANE CASTOR WOULD BECOME TAMPA'S FIRST FEMALE CHIEF
2:13:04PM OF POLICE.
2:13:05PM SO WHAT I WANT TO SEE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, IS A
2:13:08PM MEMORIAL TO THOSE WOMEN POLICE OFFICERS WHO SERVED OVER THE
2:13:12PM LAST FIFTY YEARS, MANY OF THE FIRST WITH A REAL SEXUAL --
2:13:18PM ESSENTIAL EMPHASIS ON LENORA BOOTH WHO IS A TRUE PIONEER AND
2:13:23PM TAMPA HERO, AND WE LOVE HER MEMORY SO THANK YOU THANK YOU,
2:13:31PM MR. CHAIR.
2:13:32PM [ APPLAUSE ]
2:13:35PM >> IF I MAY, THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH.
2:13:41PM I AM SO GRATEFUL AND SO APPRECIATIVE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
2:13:46PM ON BEHALF OF MY MOTHER, WHO NEVER SAW HERSELF AS A PIONEER,
2:13:51PM BUT AS SOMEONE WHO ALWAYS WANTED TO PAVE THE WAY.
2:13:56PM I BELIEVE SHE WOULD BE PROUD, INCREDIBLY PROUD OF THIS HONOR
2:14:00PM TODAY.
2:14:00PM AND WHEN I THINK BACK ON THE SUCCESSES THE CITY OF TAMPA HAD
2:14:05PM IN PROMOTING FEMALES TO THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF LEADERSHIP, AS
2:14:08PM WE SAID, WITH CHIEF CASTOR WHO IS NOW MAYOR, CHIEF O'CONNOR,
2:14:13PM WE THINK ABOUT CHIEF TRIPP, AND ALSO OUR OFFICER OF THE
2:14:15PM MONTH, OUR CORPORAL.
2:14:18PM IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY,
2:14:23PM TRULY, AND I KNOW IF MY MOTHER WAS HERE SHE WOULD BE AS
2:14:27PM HONORED AS I AM TODAY TO STAND BEFORE YOU AND SAY THANK YOU.
2:14:30PM [ APPLAUSE ]
2:14:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL MEMBERS.
2:14:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
2:14:43PM WERE YOU GOING TO SPEAK ON THE PLANS?
2:14:46PM >> I CAN.
2:14:52PM MEGAN NEWCOMB WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I'M HERE ON
2:14:53PM BEHALF OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
2:14:56PM I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MS. REYNOLDS AS WELL AS OTHER
2:14:59PM MEMBERS OF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE
2:15:02PM ARE GOING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS APPROPRIATE, TO
2:15:04PM MEMORIALIZE OFFICER BOOTH AS WELL AS EVERY SINGLE TAMPA
2:15:08PM POLICE OFFICER WHO HAS BEEN AN OUTSTANDING OFFICER AND A
2:15:11PM WOMAN OVER THE LAST FIFTY YEARS, AND GOT PLENTY AS YOU SAW
2:15:14PM THIS MORNING.
2:15:16PM A DATE IN MARCH IS WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, AND I CAN IF YOU
2:15:19PM WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK BEFORE THEN TO GIVE YOU SOME MORE
2:15:22PM DETAILS.
2:15:24PM ESSENTIALLY WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT A SUITABLE MEMORIAL.
2:15:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
2:15:33PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:15:34PM YES, I WILL MOTION FOR IT TO COME BACK AS A STAFF REPORT.
2:15:40PM PROBABLY IN LIKE JANUARY OR SO.
2:15:42PM >>MEGAN NEWCOMB: GREAT.
2:15:48PM THANK YOU.
2:15:48PM >> CAPTAIN KIMBERLY, HERE ON BEHALF OF CHIEF O'CONNOR, WHO
2:15:53PM IS SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.
2:15:55PM THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU.
2:15:56PM IT'S SUCH AN HONOR AND WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT, SO
2:15:59PM THANK YOU.
2:15:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, ONE LAST THING, I ALSO WANT TO
2:16:05PM CONDITIONAL, WE HAVE SOME FOLKS HERE, YOU ARE THE EXECUTIVE
2:16:08PM DIRECTOR OF THE CRISIS CENTER, AND WE HAVE TWO OTHER FOLKS
2:16:12PM FROM THE CRISIS CENTER, AND IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND
2:16:15PM INTRODUCE YOURSELVES, PLEASE, IF YOU WANT.
2:16:17PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
2:16:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, MAY I MOTION TO COME BACK IN,
2:16:40PM LET'S SEE, JANUARY 5th OF 2023.
2:16:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA,
2:16:50PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:16:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:16:55PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14, FILE CM 22-72720.
2:17:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT ON THAT.
2:17:18PM I'M FINE WITH THAT.
2:17:19PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:17:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE OR DID YOU WANT
2:17:24PM TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT?
2:17:26PM NO?
2:17:26PM YOU ARE GOOD?
2:17:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE NEED TO MOVE A RECEIVE AND FILE?
2:17:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE, PLEASE.
2:17:35PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:17:36PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:17:38PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:17:39PM THANK YOU.
2:17:43PM WHERE ARE WE AT NOW?
2:17:46PM THANK YOU.
2:17:46PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22, FILE NUMBER E-2022 CHAPTER 8, 19 AND
2:17:56PM 26.
2:17:56PM AND I BELIEVE THAT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO WANTED TO BRING
2:18:00PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 35 IN WITH THIS CONVERSATION.
2:18:03PM >>OCEA WYNN: ADMINISTRATOR COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
2:18:16PM COUNCIL, YOU ASKED I COME BEFORE YOU TO PRESENT AN
2:18:19PM ANTI-LITTERING CAMPAIGN, AND I WANTED TO -- BEFORE I SHOW
2:18:26PM YOU WHAT I HAVE TO SHOW YOU IS THAT OVER A YEAR AGO YOU
2:18:29PM ASKED US QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO SIGNAGE OF LITTER, THEN WE
2:18:37PM HAVE A 450, A $550 FINE FOR LITTERING, THEN FROM THERE WE
2:18:44PM MOVED FORWARD TO SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHERE YOU ASKED FOR US
2:18:46PM TO HAVE EDUCATION AND AWARENESS CAMPAIGN FOR LITTERING AS
2:18:51PM WELL.
2:18:52PM SO WHAT I PRESENTED BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A PRESENTATION, A
2:18:58PM VIDEO THAT WE HAVE FOR AN ANT LITTERING CAMPAIGN THAT I
2:19:03PM WOULD LIKE TO SHARE, AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 35.
2:19:05PM SO IF YOU CAN QUEUE UP THAT --
2:19:09PM >> EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS OPT ANTI-LITTERING CAMPAIGN AT
2:19:15PM TAMPA.GOV/KEEP IT CLEAN.
2:19:19PM THIS IS FULL OF INFORMATION, FUN FACTS AND VIDEOS.
2:19:24PM >> NO ONE LIKES LITTER.
2:19:27PM IT MAKES US LOOK TRASHY.
2:19:29PM SO WE NEED YOUR HELP TO KEEP IT CLEAN, TAMPA.
2:19:32PM >> KEEP IT CLEAN IN OUR BAY.
2:19:35PM >> KEEP IT CLEAN IN OUR BUSINESSES.
2:19:37PM >> KEEP IT CLEAN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
2:19:39PM >> KEEP IT CLEAN FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
2:19:41PM >> KEEP IT CLEAN FOR OUR KIDS.
2:19:46PM >> KEEP IT CLEAN, TAMPA.
2:19:50PM >> IT INCLUDES INFORMATION ON HOW RESIDENTS CAN GET
2:19:55PM INVOLVED, OPTIONS FOR REPORTING A COUPLE ULTIMATED TRASH AND
2:19:58PM OTHER RELATED CONCERNS, AS WELL AS INFORMATION ON THE CITY
2:20:02PM OF TAMPA'S LITTER ORDINANCE.
2:20:04PM VIDEOS HAVE ALSO BEEN CREATED TO HELP RAISE AWARENESS OF THE
2:20:08PM CITY'S LITTER FINES.
2:20:10PM >> I CAN'T BELIEVE SOMEONE WOULD LITTER IN OUR BEAUTIFUL
2:20:19PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:20:19PM >> I KNOW.
2:20:19PM WE WORK SO HARD TO KEEP IT CLEAN.
2:20:21PM >> LITTERING ISN'T JUST TRASH.
2:20:25PM IT'S ALSO BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND CAN BE HARMFUL TO WILD
2:20:29PM LIVE.
2:20:29PM >> YOU CAN GET A $450 FINE FOR LITTERING.
2:20:32PM >> OH, MAN!
2:20:34PM >> KEEP IT CLEAN, TAMPA.
2:20:35PM >> USE YOUR PART AND PUT LITTER IN ITS PLACE.
2:20:38PM LEARN MORE AND SEE OHIO YOU CAN GET INVOLVED AT
2:20:40PM TAMPA.GOV/KEEP IT CLEAN.
2:20:44PM >> IT ALSO HIGHLIGHTS WHAT CITY DEVELOPMENTS ARE DOING TO
2:20:46PM KEEP TAMPA CLEAN.
2:20:50PM UPCOME CLEANING EVENTS WILL BE POSTED TO THE WEB PAGE AS
2:20:53PM THEY BECOME AVAILABLE.
2:20:55PM VIDEOS LIKE THE ONE SHOWN AS WELL AS HAVE ALSO BEEN SHARED
2:21:00PM ON THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS AS PART OF THE CITY'S
2:21:03PM ANTI-LITTERING EDUCATION CAMPAIGN.
2:21:05PM >> HEY, LET'S KEEP IT CLEAN AROUND HERE.
2:21:19PM >> IT ALSO COMES WITH UP TO A $450 FINE.
2:21:23PM >> PLUS IT'S BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND HARMFUL TO ALL
2:21:26PM WILDLIFE.
2:21:26PM >> PUT LITTER IN ITS PLACE.
2:21:28PM LEARN MORE AND SEE HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED AT
2:21:30PM TAMPA.GOV/KEEP IT CLEAN.
2:21:33PM >> SO WITH THE HELP OF OUR KEEP IT CLEAN TEAM WE ARE ABLE TO
2:21:41PM COLLECT ALL OF THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER TO PROVIDE A
2:21:43PM FUN-FILLED AVENUE FOR THE PUBLIC TO BRING AWARENESS AND
2:21:51PM EDUCATION TO OUR LITTERING ISSUES, AND FINES ASSOCIATED WITH
2:21:57PM LITTERING.
2:21:58PM IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE AND
2:22:03PM CONTINUE TO HAVE WITH KEEP TAMPA BAY BEAUTIFUL, OVER THE
2:22:09PM LAST YEAR.
2:22:12PM WE HAVE REMOVED ALMOST 250,000 POUNDS OF LITTER AND DEBRIS.
2:22:17PM WE REMOVED ALMOST 1500 POUNDS OF INVASIVE SPECIES, AS WELL
2:22:24PM AS ADMINISTERED 52 ADOPTION CONTRACTS.
2:22:30PM THESE ARE THE CONTRACTS WITH GROUPS ADOPTING AN AREA.
2:22:34PM SO THESE GROUPS COMMIT TO FOUR CLEAN-UPS A YEAR IN THE
2:22:39PM SPECIFIC AREAS THAT THEY HAVE ADOPTED.
2:22:43PM DIMLY, THE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS THAT WE HAVE REMOVED FROM OUR
2:22:48PM WATERWAYS HAS BEEN OVER THE LAST -- FROM JULY TO THE
2:22:55PM BEGINNING OF OCTOBER, THE LAST QUARTER, HAS BEEN 16,000
2:22:58PM POUNDS.
2:22:59PM SO WE WILL CONTINUE THE CAMPAIGN, BUT WE ARE MOVING IT MORE
2:23:05PM FROM JUST CITY FOCUSED, EDUCATION AND CLEAN-UP PROCESS, AND
2:23:13PM MOVING MORE INTO THE COMMUNITIES.
2:23:16PM AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WE WILL BE USING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
2:23:19PM ASSOCIATIONS TO FORM A LITTERING TASK FORCE.
2:23:24PM SO THROUGH DIRECTOR MIGUEL, WE WILL HAVE THOSE GOING IN
2:23:33PM THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND GETTING THE
2:23:36PM NEIGHBORHOODS, GETTING THE PUBLIC INVOLVED IN THE CAMPAIGN
2:23:39PM AS WELL.
2:23:43PM ANY QUESTIONS?
2:23:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:23:46PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:23:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT INFORMATION
2:23:50PM AND FOR THE VIDEO.
2:23:53PM EVERYBODY GOT INVOLVED MAKING PART OF THAT.
2:23:56PM VERY, VERY GOOD.
2:23:57PM AND WHAT I DO LIKE IT LINKS TO A WEBSITE THAT SHOWS YOU PER
2:24:02PM STATUTE OR PER THE CODE HOW THE FINES ACCRUE OR WHAT HAPPENS
2:24:09PM FIRST, SECOND, THIRD-TIME OFFENSE.
2:24:11PM I THINK IT'S GREAT.
2:24:13PM I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, GET PEOPLE
2:24:17PM MORE INVOLVED.
2:24:18PM I DON'T WANT TO TAKE CREDIT FOR IT.
2:24:22PM I KNOW IT MY MOTION.
2:24:24PM BECAUSE I COULD MAKE THE MOTION, EVERYBODY ELSE DID THE
2:24:27PM WORK.
2:24:27PM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT OUT THERE THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
2:24:30PM INITIATED THIS, AND REALLY IT WAS INSPIRED BY SEVERAL
2:24:33PM COMMUNITY LEADERS, ONE WHO WAS HERE THIS MORNING, WHO GOES
2:24:37PM UP AND DOWN THE RIVER PICKING UP TRASH IN HIS KAYAK OR GOES
2:24:42PM OUT WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, PICKING UP TRASH, OR WHEREVER
2:24:46PM THEY ARE AT.
2:24:46PM BUT THEY ARE VERY PROACTIVE IN DOING THAT.
2:24:50PM SO AGAIN, I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND
2:24:53PM I APPRECIATE MAKING THIS HAPPEN BECAUSE WE HAVE A SERIOUS
2:24:59PM LITTERING SITUATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
2:25:02PM AND I AM SURE YOU ARE GOING TO GO INTO THIS BUT ITEM NUMBER
2:25:05PM 35 WHICH IS WHY WE ARE ASKED TO SPEND $100,000, WITH AN
2:25:10PM OUTSIDE FIRM.
2:25:11PM AND THE REASON I SAID BEFORE YOU BEGIN IS, I AM FULLY
2:25:15PM CONFIDENT, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE BEST AND THE
2:25:17PM BRIGHTEST IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND WHY DO WE NEED TO GO
2:25:20PM OUTSIDE WHEN THE BEST PEOPLE ARE ALREADY HERE?
2:25:24PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
2:25:25PM WHILE WE ARE STILL ON NUMBER 24, I WOULD LIKE TO -- ITEM
2:25:42PM NUMBER 35 IS PART OF AN ETA GRANT, $500,000 GRANT.
2:25:51PM AND PART OF THE GRANT IS A CARVE-OUT THAT WILL PROVIDE THE
2:25:56PM EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM FOR THE TAX-FREE BASE CASE STUDY.
2:26:06PM SO EPA HAS TASKED THE AWARDEES WITH IDENTIFYING THOSE AREAS
2:26:13PM IN THE CITY THAT ARE COLLECTION AREAS.
2:26:20PM ONCE THOSE AREAS ARE IDENTIFIED, THEN THE NEXT STEP IS TO DO
2:26:23PM AN EDUCATION CAMPAIGN AROUND THOSE AREAS.
2:26:28PM SO THIS IS PART OF A GRANT, FUNDS THAT ARE USED.
2:26:39PM THERE WAS A QUESTION THIS MORNING ABOUT THE PERSON THAT IS
2:26:44PM PROVIDING THE WORK NOT BEING PART OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, NOT
2:26:48PM BEING PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
2:26:51PM THE WOMAN WHO WON THE GRANT IS WOMEN OWNED CERTIFIED AND IS
2:27:00PM A LOCAL WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
2:27:03PM SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.
2:27:05PM DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS?
2:27:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABOUT WHAT ABOUT THIS --
2:27:13PM >>OCEA WYNN: THAT'S ODESSA.
2:27:14PM AND SHE ACTUALLY HAS THE LOCAL AREA HERE OFFICE HERE ON
2:27:20PM KENNEDY.
2:27:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
2:27:22PM SO IT'S NOT THE COUNTY.
2:27:28PM >>OCEA WYNN: NO, SIR.
2:27:29PM IT'S ODESSA ON KENNEDY.
2:27:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:27:33PM I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THIS WITH THE PUBLIC ON SOCIAL
2:27:36PM MEDIA.
2:27:36PM I KNOW THE COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE, WELL, AT LEAST WE ARE
2:27:42PM MOVING FORWARD WITH SOMETHING, I THINK.
2:27:45PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MENTIONED, WHILE WE ARE MAKING THESE
2:27:50PM MOTIONS, AN EDUCATION CAMPAIGN, BEFORE WE WENT STRAIGHT TO
2:27:54PM ENFORCEMENT SO THAT WAS A WONDERFUL SUGGESTION BY HER THAT
2:27:57PM WE ARE DOING, AND OUR STAR, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IN THE
2:28:05PM VIDEO.
2:28:09PM THAT'S GREAT.
2:28:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I LOVE THE IDEA OF A CAMPAIGN.
2:28:14PM I LOVE THAT.
2:28:15PM BUT THIS ISN'T VERY MEMORABLE.
2:28:18PM LIKE HOW MANY OF YOU WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA?
2:28:21PM ANYBODY?
2:28:22PM OKAY.
2:28:23PM KEEP IT IN THE CAN.
2:28:26PM I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER.
2:28:29PM AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE SLOGAN ALREADY.
2:28:36PM IT NEED TO BE CATCHY.
2:28:37PM IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO REMEMBER.
2:28:39PM AND I HATE TO SAY MAKE IT RHYME, BUT REALLY MAKE IT RHYME.
2:28:44PM NO, SERIOUSLY.
2:28:46PM PUT IT IN THE CAN.
2:28:47PM AND NOW RECYCLE IS PUT IT IN THE CAN, BE A GATOR FAN.
2:28:52PM SO THEY CAN FEED ON THAT AND IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS
2:28:54PM IF YOU WANT TO GET PEOPLE REALLY INVOLVED YOU HAVE TO MAKE
2:28:57PM IT MORE TECHY.
2:28:59PM SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT.
2:29:01PM I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE NUMBER 35 BEFORE WE DO THAT TO START
2:29:05PM YOUR GROUP, TO START YOUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THE
2:29:07PM NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE AS MR. HATCH MENTIONED THIS MORNING WE
2:29:12PM CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE IT IS.
2:29:14PM SO BEFORE WE SPEND $100,000, SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO
2:29:18PM SAY.
2:29:18PM I WOULD HAVE RECOMMENDED THE SAME THING BEFORE REALLY
2:29:20PM ROLLING OUT THIS ENTIRE THING, JUST TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY
2:29:23PM AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS KIND OF -- I MEAN, ACTUALLY LOVE --
2:29:31PM CAN WE COME UP WITH A SLOGAN THAT CENTERS AROUND THAT?
2:29:34PM THE FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MIND IS TAMPA ISN'T TRASHY BUT
2:29:38PM THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A GOOD ONE.
2:29:45PM THAT CAN BE INTERPRETED MANY WAYS.
2:29:47PM BUT SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE, I DON'T KNOW --
2:29:53PM >>OCEA WYNN: AND WE CAN GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED.
2:29:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY HELP BECAUSE ONCE
2:29:58PM THIS GOT OUT I GOT MULTIPLE E-MAILS SAYING THAT NO, WE CAN
2:30:03PM DO THIS AND WE CAN DO THAT.
2:30:05PM I THINK THE COMMUNITY CAN DO AN AWESOME JOB WITH THAT.
2:30:08PM AND I LOVE THE ENERGY BEHIND IT.
2:30:10PM I JUST THINK WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TO MAKE IT REALLY
2:30:18PM SING.
2:30:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:30:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU KNOW, MY OTHER JOB IS MARKETING,
2:30:28PM COMMUNICATION.
2:30:33PM YOU DIDN'T GO THROUGH IT BUT THE SAME THING WITH THE CRA
2:30:37PM LOGO.
2:30:38PM ANY CREATIVE SHOULD HAVE A BRIEF THAT'S BASED ON THE
2:30:43PM STRATEGY THAT'S BEING USED.
2:30:44PM AND IN THIS CASE, IT COMES WITH A LOT OF HEADACHES, BUT ONE
2:30:48PM OF THEM IS SOCIAL MARKETING OR BEHAVIORAL CHANGE IN
2:30:51PM COMMUNICATION.
2:30:52PM AND THERE'S A LOT OF SCIENCE BEHIND IT.
2:30:54PM I'M SURE THAT I HAVEN'T RESEARCHED THIS TOPIC BUT THERE'S
2:30:58PM GOT TO BE A LOT OF SCIENCE BEHIND GETTING PEOPLE TO
2:31:02PM UNDERSTAND THAT THEY NEED -- IF SOMETHING REMEMBERS IT
2:31:07PM WHETHER THEY ACTUALLY PUT THE GARBAGE IN THE TRASH CAN OR
2:31:10PM WHATEVER.
2:31:12PM WHATEVER THE CREATIVE IS, IF YOU ALL COME BACK, IT WOULD BE
2:31:16PM GOOD TO KNOW WHAT THE BEHAVIORAL SCIENCE WAS BEHIND IT.
2:31:20PM FOR EXAMPLE, THE LOGO, I ASSUME THAT'S BASED ON SOME
2:31:28PM BEHAVIORAL SCIENCE THAT SAYS YOU WANT TO CREATE TRASH WITH
2:31:35PM SOMETHING THAT'S DANGEROUS.
2:31:36PM SO IF IT'S SOMEBODY TRYING TO CREATE IT WITH SOME KIND OF
2:31:40PM TAMPA PIRATE THING.
2:31:43PM IF WE NEED THE SCIENCE BEHIND IT THEN IT WOULD MAKE REVIEW
2:31:50PM OF IT SUBJECTIVE AND ULTIMATELY SEE WHETHER PEOPLE ACTED ON
2:31:54PM IT OR NOT.
2:31:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
2:31:59PM THANK YOU.
2:31:59PM >>MCLANE EVANS: ITEM NUMBER 35, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT
2:32:09PM THAT A $1,000 GRANT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN MARCH.
2:32:14PM IT WAS A THREE YEAR TIMELINE MUCH IF NOT SPENT BY THE END OF
2:32:18PM 2024 WE LOSE IT.
2:32:19PM IT HAS SPECIFIC DELIVERABLES THAT HAVE TO BE MET BECAUSE OF
2:32:25PM NEEDING COUNCIL APPROVAL.
2:32:26PM THE BID PROCESS, LOOKING AT VENDORS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU
2:32:30PM AWARE THERE'S A TIMELINE, AND IF WE DON'T MEET IT WE ARE
2:32:33PM POTENTIALLY IN BREACH OF OUR AGREEMENT.
2:32:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:32:47PM DOES STAFF NEED A MOTION?
2:32:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, IT DOES.
2:32:51PM [OFF MICROPHONE]
2:32:52PM NUMBER 35.
2:32:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SINCE THAT'S COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S
2:32:59PM COMMITTEE I WAS GOING TO ASK IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE
2:33:02PM MOTION OR SAVE IT WITH HER ITEMS SHE WILL BE MOVING LATER
2:33:08PM ON.
2:33:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN DO IT NOW.
2:33:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO
2:33:15PM PAY THE FINE, DON'T MAKE TRASH FINE.
2:33:24PM [ LAUGHTER ]
2:33:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
2:33:32PM WHICHEVER YOU PREFER, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:33:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, I WOULD REALLY LOVE FOR YOU TO GET IT
2:33:40PM STARTED WITH NEIGHBORHOOD INVOLVEMENT BEFORE COMING UP WITH
2:33:44PM A PLAN, BECAUSE IF WE COME UP WITH A PLAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER
2:33:47PM WHEN THE DEADLINE IS.
2:33:49PM WE ARE JUST SPENDING MONEY TO SPEND MONEY.
2:33:51PM AND I WOULD REALLY PREFER THAT THE COMMUNITY BE A PART OF
2:33:55PM THAT, BECAUSE $500,000 FOR A TRASH CAMPAIGN -- BUT IF WE
2:34:00PM DON'T HAVE THE COMMUNITY I AM PUT.
2:34:03PM SO IF WE COULD POSSIBLY BRING THAT BACK IN FEBRUARY?
2:34:10PM IS THAT ENOUGH TIME TO PROBABLY GET SOMETHING STARTED?
2:34:13PM >> THE GRANT HAS QUARTERLY REPORTING TO THE FEDERAL
2:34:23PM GOVERNMENT, AND SO FORTH FIRST THREE QUARTERINGS AT THIS
2:34:28PM POINT IT'S BEEN NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING, AND THERE WAS
2:34:31PM SUPPOSED TO BE DELIVERABLES.
2:34:33PM AND THIS FIRST $100,000 IS FOR THE ASSESSMENT, MY
2:34:38PM UNDERSTANDING IS -- I AM NOT THE EXPERT IN THIS.
2:34:41PM I JUST HAPPEN TO BE THE ONLY ONE AVAILABLE -- IT'S FOR
2:34:44PM ASSESSMENT OF EXISTING DATA FROM D.O.T. AND KEEP THE RIVER
2:34:49PM BEAUTIFUL AND OTHER SOURCES THAT ALREADY HAVE DATA ON THE
2:34:55PM ORIGINAL NATION OF TRASH, SO THAT THEY CAN TARGET THE
2:34:58PM SOURCES.
2:35:01PM AND THEN I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LEAVE -- READ THE DETAILS
2:35:06PM OF THE RESOLUTION FROM MARCH 3rd, ALSO INCLUDED AS
2:35:09PM BACKUP, BUT IT HAS OUTREACH, FOR EXAMPLE, I BELIEVE LIKE 600
2:35:13PM CONTACTS OR SOMETHING BY THE CLOSE OF THE GRANT.
2:35:16PM SO THIS IS FOR THE FIRST TASK.
2:35:19PM AND THEN THE NEXT TASK IS REALLY WHAT WAS LIKE THE BURDEN OF
2:35:23PM THE WORK SO YOU ARE REALLY BURNING UP A LOT OF TIME TO GO
2:35:26PM TILL FEBRUARY.
2:35:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO YOU ARE BASICALLY SAYING THAT THIS MONEY
2:35:31PM HAS TO BE SPENT OR TRASHED.
2:35:36PM >> WE HAVE A CONTRACT OBLIGATION.
2:35:43PM IF WE BREECH THE CONTRACT WE RETURN THE MONEY TO THE EPA OR
2:35:46PM WE COMPLY WITH WHAT WE AGREED TO DO.
2:35:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WE HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY.
2:35:54PM SO THEN MOVED --
2:35:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I AM NOT AN
2:35:59PM EXPERT ON NONE OF THIS STUFF, AND I AM NOT CRITICIZING
2:36:02PM WHAT'S HERE NOW, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO THROW A CAN IN A
2:36:08PM PAPER AND IMAGE OF A MOUSE THAT SAYS WHATEVER YOU WANT IT TO
2:36:15PM SAY BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT RELATED TO SOMETHING.
2:36:18PM AND AMERICA, EVERYTHING IS FREE INCLUDING THROWING YOUR
2:36:22PM TRASH AWAY.
2:36:25PM NO MATTER WHAT ROUTE YOU TAKE IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY YOU ARE
2:36:28PM GOING TO FIND THAT ALL OVER.
2:36:29PM AND THE HIGHWAY.
2:36:31PM ONLY DRIVE A LITTLE BIT FROM ARMENIA TO DOWNTOWN AND EVERY
2:36:34PM OTHER DAY SWEEPERS PICKING UP THINGS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD
2:36:39PM BECAUSE PEOPLE THROW EVERYTHING OUT THE WINDOW.
2:36:41PM IT'S A HABIT.
2:36:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION OR SAVE IT FOR
2:36:54PM LATER?
2:36:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT DOESN'T MATTER.
2:36:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S SAVE IT TILL LATER WITH YOUR OTHER
2:37:00PM MOTIONS.
2:37:01PM MS. WYNN, WHO REALLY NODES TO BE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE, FDOT.
2:37:08PM SOME OF THE PLACES IN THIS TOWN THAT HAS THE LARGEST
2:37:12PM ACCUMULATION OF TRASH ALONG ENTRANCE AND EXIT RAMPS.
2:37:16PM I DON'T KNOW WHETHER PEOPLE ARE THROWING IT OUT THE WINDOW
2:37:19PM ORB JUST DRIVING DOWN THE INTERSTATE OR PEOPLE WALKING BY.
2:37:25PM I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT MUCH GARBAGE IN ONE SPOT THAN ALONG OUR
2:37:29PM ENTRANCES AND EXITS.
2:37:31PM I KNOW THAT THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT THE FDOT CONTRACTS, BUT
2:37:36PM IN MY OPINION, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THEM GO TO THE WASTE
2:37:45PM TREATMENT, THOUSANDS OF TONS OF GARBAGE WE ARE BURNING OUT
2:37:49PM THERE?
2:37:50PM IT'S AMAZING.
2:37:51PM THANK YOU, MS. WYNN, FOR YOUR REPORT.
2:37:53PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES.
2:37:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28, I
2:37:59PM BELIEVE, IS THAT CORRECT?
2:38:03PM 23.
2:38:04PM ALL RIGHT.
2:38:08PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23.
2:38:10PM CM 22-77617.
2:38:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK WE CONTINUED THAT TILL 10-27.
2:38:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TAKE IT NOW, PLEASE.
2:38:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS MORNING, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ASKED FOR
2:38:52PM THE DISCUSSION TO BE DELAYED AND MARTY SAID HE HAD SOMETHING
2:38:56PM HE WANTED TO PRESENT.
2:38:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE NOW.
2:39:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS WAS A REAL EFFORT ON THE PART OF THE
2:39:03PM CLERK AND I WANT TO THANK THE CITY CLERK SHIRLEY
2:39:08PM FOXX-KNOWLES FOR THE EFFORT THEY PUT IN.
2:39:10PM EVERY COUNCILMEMBER SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A BINDER THAT GIVES
2:39:12PM YOU THE INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO YOU.
2:39:14PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
2:39:17PM THEY ALSO DID SOMETHING THAT I ASKED THEM TO DO ON THE BASIS
2:39:21PM OF SOMETHING THAT I PULLED FROM MY FILE WHICH IS 18 YEARS
2:39:24PM OLD.
2:39:26PM I AM GOING TO SHOW IT TO YOU RIGHT NOW.
2:39:28PM YOU CAN SEE PAM IORIO IS THE MAYOR, DATED AUGUST 26 OF 2004.
2:39:33PM PER YOUR REQUEST I RESEARCHED MY RECORDS FROM SHIRLEY
2:39:36PM FOXX-KNOWLES, THE CITY CLERK AT THE TIME, CITY CLERK TODAY,
2:39:39PM REGARDING AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE CHARTER OF
2:39:42PM THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR THE PERIOD FROM JANUARY 26, 1989 TO
2:39:47PM SEPTEMBER 12, 2002 AND ALSO ATTACHED EACH ORDINANCE TO THAT.
2:39:52PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PASS THAT OUT.
2:39:58PM THERE WAS TALK ABOUT RELYING SOLELY ON THE CHARTER REVIEW
2:40:24PM COMMISSION, WHICH WAS NOT CREATED UNTIL THE VOTERS ACCEPTED
2:40:27PM THAT ON THE BALLOT WHICH WAS PLACED THERE BY THE CITY
2:40:33PM COUNCIL AT THE TIME FOR THEM TO ADOPT WHETHER TO ADOPT THE
2:40:35PM CONCEPT OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, AND ONE OF THE
2:40:39PM MAJOR GOALS OF HAVING THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION WAS TO
2:40:43PM PUT WITHIN THE CHARTER A PROVISION THAT ALLOWS THE PERIODIC
2:40:46PM ROW VIEWS, BUT THAT DOESN'T BAR YOU UNDER THE CHARTER OR
2:40:50PM STATE STATUTE FROM PASSING ORDINANCES AT ANY TIME DURING AN
2:40:57PM ELECTION OR SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE ABLE TO PUT BEFORE THE
2:41:03PM VOTERS A QUESTION TO AMEND THE CHARTER.
2:41:05PM PARTICULARLY SOMETHING THAT IS PRESSING, SOMETHING THAT IS
2:41:09PM NEEDED, AND SOMETHING THAT YOU AS CITY COUNCIL WANT TO BE
2:41:13PM ABLE TO PUT IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS TO AMEND THE CHARTER.
2:41:16PM SO IT'S A FASCINATING DISCUSSION.
2:41:19PM IT SHOWS THE ORDINANCE NUMBER, THE DESCRIPTION, WHETHER
2:41:21PM ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL, THE DATE THE ELECTION WAS HELD, AND
2:41:25PM THE VOTE.
2:41:26PM AND ACTUALLY, COUNCIL, WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH IT, SOME OF
2:41:30PM THEM WERE DEFEATED, AND FRANKLY I BELIEVE THERE WAS AT LEAST
2:41:36PM ONE OF THEM THAT WAS VETOED BY THE MAYOR.
2:41:38PM SO THE FACT IS THERE ARE A LOT OF CHECKS AND BALANCES IN THE
2:41:41PM SYSTEM, BUT EVERY CHARTER AMENDMENT UP UNTIL THIS POINT TO
2:41:47PM THE CREATION OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION WENT BEFORE
2:41:52PM THE VOTERS BY ORDINANCE OF THIS BOARD.
2:41:55PM SO I JUST WANTED THAT TO BE MADE CLEAR, AND SO YOU CAN HAVE
2:41:59PM THE BENEFIT OF SEEING WHAT PREVIOUS CITY COUNCILS HAVE DONE,
2:42:02PM WHAT THEY BROUGHT BEFORE THE VOTERS AND WHAT THE RESULT WAS.
2:42:08PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:42:09PM BY THE WAY, I DID FORWARD A COPY OF THIS TO THE CITY
2:42:11PM ATTORNEY AS WELL.
2:42:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:42:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: MARTY, CAN YOU PLEASE E-MAIL IT TO US SO WE
2:42:19PM HAVE IT ELECTRONICALLY?
2:42:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S ON MY DESKTOP READY TO SEND.
2:42:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN WE WERE TALKING
2:42:28PM ABOUT THE CHARTER THE LAST TIME WHEN WE WERE SUPPOSED TO
2:42:31PM MODIFY THE CHARTER, THERE WAS SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE
2:42:34PM COMMUNITY, I THINK SOMEBODY MESSED WITH US, SAID YOU NEED TO
2:42:38PM FOLLOW THE PROCESS AND THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
2:42:42PM CHARTER REVIEW SAYS THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS TO MODIFY THE
2:42:45PM CHARTER.
2:42:45PM CITY COUNCIL CAN DO IT AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF
2:42:47PM EXPERIENCE FROM CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION ON HERE, AND THE
2:42:50PM OTHER IS THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, WHICH WE AS THE
2:42:53PM CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION PUT IN THE CHARTER FOR THE VOTERS.
2:42:56PM BUT IN EITHER OF THOSE CHOICES EACH WHEN WE MEET IN OUR
2:43:01PM WORKSHOP, EVEN IF WE SUGGEST FOLLOWING THE CHARTER EVEN IF
2:43:05PM CITY COUNCIL SUGGESTS MODIFYING THE CHARTER, IT STILL HAS TO
2:43:08PM GO TO THE VOTERS.
2:43:09PM THE VOTERS ULTIMATELY HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO.
2:43:12PM BUT THERE'S A THIRD WAY THAT THE CHARTER HAS BEEN MODIFIED,
2:43:15PM AND I WOULD JUST ASK ALL OF YOU TO BE AWARE OF IT, AND IT IS
2:43:18PM THROUGH THE OPINIONS OF CITY ATTORNEYS.
2:43:22PM CITY COUNCIL CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION HAVE TO GO TO THE
2:43:24PM VOTERS TO GET THE CHARTER CHANGED.
2:43:26PM BUT WE HAVE SEEN OPINIONS BY FORMER CITY ATTORNEYS THAT
2:43:32PM RADICALLY CHANGE THE CHARTER.
2:43:33PM ONE OF THEM IS THE ONE THAT SAYS THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
2:43:37PM HAS THE RIGHT TO SETTLE LAWSUITS, APPROVE THE CONTRACT OF
2:43:42PM LAWSUIT, AND THEN WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
2:43:46PM CLEARLY THAT'S NOT ACCURATE.
2:43:47PM IT'S NOT WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS.
2:43:48PM ANOTHER ONE IS THAT ONLY THE MAYOR HAS THE RIGHT TO NAME
2:43:52PM BUILDINGS.
2:43:52PM AND THERE ARE OTHERS.
2:43:53PM AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS RELYING ON THOSE OPINIONS AS IF
2:43:56PM THEY WERE FROM A JUDGE.
2:43:58PM AS I SAID THIS MORNING, IF WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT WITH THE
2:44:03PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT'S LEGAL TEAM AND IF YOU OR I HIRE A LAWYER
2:44:08PM ON OUR OWN YOU CAN CHALLENGE IT AND YOU CAN ASK THEM
2:44:11PM QUESTIONS.
2:44:12PM THIS CITY IS ACTING A LOT LIKE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS THE
2:44:16PM JUDICIAL BRANCH OF THE CITY AND IT ISN'T.
2:44:19PM THEY ARE LEGAL ADVISORS.
2:44:20PM YOUR ONLY CHOICES TORE GO TO OUTSIDE ATTORNEY WHICH NOBODY
2:44:24PM TRUSTS BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S HANDLED.
2:44:26PM WHEN YOU GO TO A JUDGE, WHICH REALLY REQUIRES A LAWSUIT.
2:44:29PM OR YOU COULD GO TO AN ATTORNEY GENERAL OR SOME THIRD PARTY.
2:44:33PM SO MY POINT IS NOT TO REVIEW ALL THE CASES RIGHT NOW AND I
2:44:37PM DON'T WANT TO REVIEW THAT CASE, BUT THE POINT IS FROM MY
2:44:40PM COLLEAGUES TO PLEASE PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE WE NOT ONLY HAVE
2:44:42PM TO WORK AT POTENTIALLY MODIFYING THE CHARTER, WE HAVE GOT TO
2:44:46PM CLEAN UP SOME OF THESE OPINIONS THAT ARE SILTING OUT HERE
2:44:48PM THAT CHANGE THE CHARTER WITHOUT VOTER APPROVAL AND CHANGE
2:44:50PM THE CHARTER WITH ONE OR TWO PARAGRAPHS BY A CITY ATTORNEY.
2:44:54PM THANK YOU.
2:44:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SHIRLEY.
2:45:00PM ABSOLUTELY.
2:45:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
2:45:03PM I HAVE TO PHILOSOPHICALLY NO PROBLEM WITH CITY COUNCIL
2:45:06PM SEEKING TO AMEND THE CHARTER THROUGH VOTERS.
2:45:10PM YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
2:45:13PM I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, DO IT
2:45:17PM WITHOUT -- IN A WAY THAT IS REACTIVE AND CONTEMPLATION, ET.
2:45:24PM THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO SAY NO CHARTER AMENDMENTS OUTSIDE
2:45:27PM OF THE EVERY TEN YEAR PROCESS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
2:45:29PM I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE
2:45:32PM REASONABLE WAY TO GO FORWARD.
2:45:34PM THINK THERE ARE SOME PROPOSED ONES THAT MERIT SERIOUS
2:45:37PM CONSIDERATION OR THAT I WOULD SUPPORT.
2:45:39PM I TALKED ABOUT ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, PATTERNED AFTER THE
2:45:42PM 27th AMENDMENT, BUT WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN TERMS
2:45:46PM OF FINDING ONE SITUATION THAT MAY BE INTERPRETED ONE WAY OR
2:45:51PM THE OTHER, AND USING IT TO FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE A CHARTER
2:45:55PM PROVISION THAN WITHIN OUR CHARTER.
2:45:57PM I DON'T -- A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY OUR CITY OF TAMPA CHARTER
2:46:01PM ACTS LIKE THE CONSTITUTION.
2:46:03PM NO, I NOT.
2:46:04PM IT IS A CONSTITUTION BUT IT'S NOT TO BE GIVEN DEFERENCE LIKE
2:46:08PM THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
2:46:11PM WE CAN AMEND IT, RIGHT?
2:46:13PM THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.
2:46:14PM WE CAN LIBERALLY AMEND IT IF WE WANT THROUGH SPECIFIC
2:46:18PM PROVISIONS.
2:46:18PM HOWEVER, IT'S SOMETHING WITH SOME CONSIDERATION, ET CETERA.
2:46:28PM I WOULD FAVOR GOING FORWARD BUT I AM NOT FOR SPECIFIC
2:46:36PM AMENDMENT WITHOUT GIVING IT DUE THOUGHT AND CONSIDERATION.
2:46:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS
2:46:41PM INFORMATION, MR. SHELBY, BECAUSE IT'S FASCINATING TO SEE THE
2:46:45PM HISTORY GOING BACK TO I THINK 1989, 1990 OR SO, AND THE
2:46:50PM CHANGES THAT WERE INTENDED AND THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE
2:46:55PM PASSED OR NOT PASSED OR VETOED.
2:46:57PM JUST FOR MY OWN PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE, I APPRECIATE IT.
2:47:00PM IT'S SOMETHING THAT I NEVER THOUGHT OF BECAUSE WE LOOKED AT
2:47:03PM THE 1970 CHARTER AND THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION THAT CAME
2:47:10PM FORWARD AND CHANGES THAT WERE MADE.
2:47:12PM BUT I NEVADA REALLY STUDIED THIS MUCH INFORMATION.
2:47:16PM THANK YOU.
2:47:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:47:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
2:47:19PM YOU KNOW, POWER HAS A WAY OF CHANGING PEOPLE.
2:47:24PM POWER HAS A WAY OF CHANGE.
2:47:30PM THIS COUNCIL IS EMPOWERED TO DO A JOB.
2:47:33PM YOU ARE A LEGISLATIVE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.
2:47:36PM AS A PERSON WHO SAT ON THE CHARTER REVIEW, WE DIDN'T AGREE
2:47:41PM ON EVERYTHING BUT IT CAME TO COMPROMISE.
2:47:44PM WHEN I LOOK BACK ON THOSE DAYS THAT I SAT UP THERE, AND WHEN
2:47:56PM ONE WAS READ I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT.
2:47:58PM DO YOU REMEMBER THAT?
2:48:05PM AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE DID, MAYBE WE DID NOT.
2:48:11PM BUT NOW ACTUALLY SITTING IN THIS POSITION, NOW YOU HAVE THAT
2:48:18PM EXPERIENCE, AND I HAVE HAD THE EXPERIENCE AND SEEING SOME OF
2:48:24PM THE THINGS THAT COME BEFORE US AND SOME OF THE OPINIONS, AND
2:48:30PM SOME CLARITY SOMETIMES, AND, WELL, I HAVE A PROBLEM, OHIO DO
2:48:37PM WE GET FACTS TO FIND OUT WHAT IT SHOULD BE INTERPRETED AS?
2:48:43PM BECAUSE ONE WORN ONE INTERPRETATION CAN BE FORMED.
2:48:46PM AND THOSE WHAT I SEE SOMETIMES WHEN WE GO FOR A CHARTER
2:48:49PM AMENDMENT, SOMEONE'S INTERPRETATION.
2:48:51PM AND THE BALANCE OF POWER SHIFTS.
2:48:56PM THAT'S WHEN THE INVITE COMES IN.
2:48:58PM WE DON'T HAVE A TRUE BALANCE OF THE HOUSE.
2:49:01PM IT'S TWO FORMS OF GOVERNMENT.
2:49:03PM SO I'M IN FAVOR OF LOOKING AT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON
2:49:09PM THAT I BELIEVE NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AND TWEAKED BECAUSE THE
2:49:12PM VOTERS QUESTION IT AS WELL.
2:49:14PM SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS, MR. SHELBY, TWO OR THREE
2:49:17PM THINGS NOW THAT I AM SERIOUS ABOUT LOOKING, TALK WITH THIS
2:49:22PM COUNCIL WHEN IT COMES TO THE WORKSHOP MAKING SURE BECAUSE WE
2:49:26PM HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WHAT WE SAY IS
2:49:31PM RIGHT AND WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS IS RIGHT, AND NOT AN OPINION
2:49:36PM OR INTERPRETATION.
2:49:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:49:47PM COUNCIL MEMBERS SUBMITTED TO YOU OR TO LEGAL ON WHAT CHARTER
2:49:50PM CHANGES THEY ARE LOOKING AT?
2:49:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: INDIVIDUALLY, NO, BUT AS THEY COME UP ON
2:49:57PM THE DAIS THEY HAVE MADE COMMENTS THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO
2:50:00PM DISCUSS THIS WHEN IT COMES UP, AND I MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.
2:50:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IN RELATION TO ANY REQUESTS THAT MAY BE
2:50:07PM MADE, CAN YOU CHECK AND SEE WHICH ONES WERE VOTED UP OR DOWN
2:50:11PM THAT THEY MAY CORRELATE WITH WHAT IS BEING ASKED UP HERE AND
2:50:14PM WHAT WAS ASKED OF CHARTER REVIEW?
2:50:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OH, WHAT'S COMING UP NOW IS NOT
2:50:19PM NECESSARILY ANYTHING THAT WAS RAISED AT THE CHARTER REVIEW.
2:50:25PM IT IT'S ALL NEW INTERPRETATIONS OR INTERPRETATIONS OF THE
2:50:30PM NEW LANGUAGE AND SEEING ULTIMATELY WHAT EFFECT IT MIGHT
2:50:32PM HAVE.
2:50:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:50:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN.
2:50:37PM MR. SHELBY, IN REFERENCE TO THE WORKSHOP, HAVE YOU EMPLOYED
2:50:40PM THAT INDIVIDUAL STILL OR THAT PERSON -- HOW IS THAT GOING?
2:50:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE TIME NOW, WE CAN
2:50:47PM TALK ABOUT IT OR HOLD IT TILL NEW BUSINESS.
2:50:50PM I DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP THE MEETING.
2:50:52PM BUT I CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY.
2:50:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN TELL US.
2:50:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT PERSON WAS ORIGINALLY CONTRACTED FROM
2:51:01PM NINE TO NOON.
2:51:01PM IF YOU WANT THAT PERSON TO STAY THE ENTIRE DAY IT WOULD COST
2:51:05PM AN ADDITIONAL $1650.
2:51:07PM THEY ARE READY FOR COUNCIL TO SAY HOW THEY WANT TO GO,
2:51:09PM WHETHER THEY WANT THEM FOR THE MORNING, WHETHER THEY WANT
2:51:12PM THEM FOR THE WHOLE DAY, OR IF IT'S COUNCIL'S DECISION NOT TO
2:51:15PM HAVE IT.
2:51:16PM I WOULD HAVE TO FROM THEM AND WE WOULD HAVE TO NEGOTIATE HOW
2:51:18PM MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT THUS FAR ON PREPARATIONS FOR THE
2:51:21PM WORKSHOP.
2:51:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
2:51:30PM IF YOU HAVE THIS INFORMATION YOU NEED TO GET THAT TO US SO
2:51:33PM WE CAN ACT UPON IT.
2:51:39PM IF IT NEED TO BE DONE, YOU NEED TO LET US KNOW THIS IS YOUR
2:51:42PM RECOMMENDATION SO WE CAN VOTE UP OR DOWN.
2:51:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, SIR, I HAVE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT I
2:51:47PM JUST LITERALLY FOUND THIS OUT YESTERDAY AND I TOLD THEM THAT
2:51:49PM I WOULD HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THEM BY THE END OF THIS MEETING
2:51:52PM TODAY.
2:51:52PM AND I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
2:51:55PM YOU CAN EITHER DECIDE IT NOW OR DECIDE IT LATER AND MOVE
2:51:58PM ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING.
2:52:00PM YOUR CALL.
2:52:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION?
2:52:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY RECOMMENDATION IS FOR YOU TO DECIDE
2:52:06PM WHETHER YOU WANT IT FROM NINE TO NOON AND IF SO YOU CAN HAVE
2:52:08PM THE FACILITATOR FOR THE PRICE THAT'S ALREADY NEGOTIATED.
2:52:12PM IF YOU WANT THAT PERSON AVAILABLE FOR THE WHOLE DAY THAT
2:52:15PM PERSON WILL COST AN EXTRA $1650.
2:52:17PM IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
2:52:18PM AND THE REASON, ONE OF THE REASONS, COUNCILMAN GUDES, ONE OF
2:52:23PM THE REASONS THAT I WAS IN FAVOR OF A FACILITATOR IS BECAUSE
2:52:29PM UNLESS YOU SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR MY RECOMMENDATION, I DON'T
2:52:31PM WANT TO PLAY A ROLE, BUT I AM HAPPY TO OFFER IT.
2:52:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: COMMON SENSE TO ME, IF WE ARE GOING TO DO
2:52:46PM A JOB, I AM GOING TO PREPARE FOR THE WHOLE DAY.
2:52:49PM I AM GOING TO CLEAR FOR THE WHOLE DAY.
2:52:51PM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CHARTER REVIEW.
2:52:53PM SO MY RECOMMENDATION, MY MOTION WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND
2:52:56PM HAVE IT SECURED FOR A WHOLE DAY.
2:52:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, IS THAT A MOTION?
2:53:01PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY
2:53:03PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:53:05PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
2:53:07PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:53:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, I SUPPORT THAT.
2:53:11PM I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT TO BE HERE -- WE WANT TO HAVE A
2:53:15PM MEETING ON THIS VERY PASSIONATE SUBJECT THAT IS RUN AS
2:53:20PM EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE AND NOT HAVE IT ON OUR CHAIR WHO
2:53:24PM DOES A FINE JOB, BY THE WAY, BUT PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON
2:53:28PM ANY CHAIR.
2:53:30PM I THINK TO GIVE TO THE ANOTHER PERSON BEING PAID BY THE
2:53:32PM HOUR, I THINK, IS A SMART IDEA.
2:53:36PM THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
2:53:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:53:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS I
2:53:43PM PROPOSED A PROCESS WHICH I THINK WE VOTED INTO BEING PART OF
2:53:46PM THAT.
2:53:47PM I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE GIVE THAT PROCESS TO THE
2:53:50PM FACILITATOR, AND I DON'T KNOW THIS FACILITY FAITH OR BUT
2:53:53PM SOME FACILITATORS TRY TO UTILIZE FANCY THINGS TO DO TEAM
2:53:58PM BUILDING AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
2:53:59PM THIS NEEDS TO BE A VERY EFFICIENT PROCESS WHERE I THINK WHAT
2:54:03PM WE AGREED WAS THAT EACH OF US WILL PRESENT AN IDEA, WE'LL
2:54:07PM DISCUSS IT BRIEFLY, AND THEN WE'LL VOTE IT UP OR DOWN.
2:54:10PM AND WE ALSO SAY IN THIS CASE IT WOULD NEED SUPER MAJORITY
2:54:13PM BECAUSE IT WOULD NEED APPROVAL AND THAT'S THE SAME THING
2:54:16PM THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL DID LAST TIME.
2:54:17PM SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE GIVE THAT PROCESS TO THE
2:54:20PM FACILITATOR, AND LET'S SAY, WE WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY A
2:54:24PM CHANCE TO TALK BUT IT SHOULD GO FAST.
2:54:26PM IT SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF STRENUOUS STUFF.
2:54:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:54:32PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:54:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE WITH THAT.
2:54:36PM THE ONLY THING THAT I PUT MY MIND ON IS THE VETO, BECAUSE I
2:54:41PM THINK 4 TO 3, COUNTY STILL GO TO THE MAYOR AT THAT POINT.
2:54:45PM AND THEN IF IT DOESN'T PASS, THAT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, SAYS
2:54:52PM SOMETHING.
2:54:52PM SO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER -- WELL, IF IT COMES BACK TO US,
2:54:56PM THEN WE CAN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
2:54:57PM BUT I STILL THINK 4 TO 3 IS A PRETTY GOOD MEASURE.
2:55:03PM IT STILL SHOWS A MAJORITY SUPPORT FROM THE COUNCIL.
2:55:07PM BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD MAKE.
2:55:10PM BUT I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE, LET'S HAVE HER ALL DAY.
2:55:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I A ADDRESS THAT VERY BRIEFLY?
2:55:19PM ACTION OF COUNCIL REQUIRES FOUR VOTES.
2:55:21PM SIMPLE MAJORITY SENDS A MESSAGE TO THE MAYOR NOT TO VETO.
2:55:26PM BUT A VOTE OF 4 CAN STILL GO TO THE MAYOR AND AGAIN THE
2:55:29PM REMEDY FOR THE MAYOR IS PROVIDED FOR IN THE CHARTER, AND
2:55:32PM IT'S CALLED A VETO.
2:55:33PM AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY THAT I PROVIDED YOU, THERE
2:55:36PM WAS A CASE WHERE IT WAS VETOED AND THAT VETO WAS NOT
2:55:41PM OVERRIDDEN.
2:55:42PM SO THERE IS A PROCESS OF A VOTE OF 4 BUT IF THAT'S THE CASE
2:55:47PM I WOULD ASK YOU TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THAT NOW SO YOU
2:55:50PM CAN INFORM THE FACILITATOR ABOUT HOW TO DO IT.
2:55:53PM WHETHER YOU WANT FIVE VOTES OR FOUR.
2:55:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: AND WE CAN STILL OVERRIDE.
2:55:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ALREADY HAVE ONE MOTION NOT VOTED ON, A
2:56:01PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN
2:56:03PM HURTAK.
2:56:05PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:56:08PM WOULD SOMEONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE THE VOTE ON FOUR OR FIVE?
2:56:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
2:56:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
2:56:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAS THAT CLEAR TO YOU, MADAM CLERK?
2:56:25PM >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE]
2:56:33PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
2:56:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: REALLY YOU ARE SAYING FOUR VOTES.
2:56:36PM >> FOUR VOTES.
2:56:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES,
2:56:44PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:56:46PM ANYTIME FURTHER DISCUSSION?
2:56:48PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:56:50PM THANK YOU.
2:56:50PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
2:56:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:56:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ONE MORE THING REAL QUICKLY.
2:56:57PM I MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO A SPECIFIC CASE ABOUT THE
2:57:01PM FORMER CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION ON CITY ATTORNEY SIGNING
2:57:08PM SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS AND THEN PAYING THEM.
2:57:11PM AND IN THAT CASE, I WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW I TALKED TO MARTY
2:57:15PM AND MS. ZELMAN ABOUT THAT THE OTHER DAY AND I THINK THAT'S
2:57:19PM AN EXAMPLE WHERE WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HANDLE THAT IN
2:57:23PM CHARTER CHANGE.
2:57:23PM INSTEAD WHAT I PROPOSED IS WE GET AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL
2:57:26PM SUPERSEDE THE ATTORNEY'S OPINION, AND THAT IT WILL BE OUT
2:57:32PM LINED THERE.
2:57:32PM I THINK THERE HAS TO BE REASONABLE -- THERE HAS TO BE SOME
2:57:36PM DOLLAR LIMIT, MAYBE 50,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UNDER
2:57:39PM WHICH THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN NEGOTIATE A PAYOUT, BUT ABOVE A
2:57:42PM CERTAIN AMOUNT, THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD MAINTAIN ITS POWER.
2:57:46PM WHAT THAT CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION DOES IS IT USURPS THE
2:57:51PM POWER OF CITY COUNCIL.
2:57:52PM I THINK THERE'S A WAY OF FIGURING THIS OUT WITHOUT GOING TO
2:57:55PM THE CHARTER JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.
2:57:56PM THANK YOU.
2:57:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA NUMBER 28.
2:58:10PM CM 22-7749.
2:58:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS A RESOLUTION I JUST WANTED TO BE
2:58:20PM ABLE TO READ IT PUBLICLY BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY TIME WE HAVE
2:58:23PM DONE IT WAS AT THE END OF THE MECHANIC WHEN NO ONE WAS HERE.
2:58:26PM SO BEFORE WE VOTE, THIS IS A RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING OCTOBER
2:58:32PM 2022 AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE MONTH IN THE CITY OF TAMPA URGING
2:58:35PM ALL PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS AND ALL CITIZENS IN THE
2:58:38PM CITY OF TAMPA AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO SUPPORT DOMESTIC
2:58:41PM VIOLENCE SURVIVORS AND TAKE A STAND AGAINST ALL FORM OF
2:58:45PM VIOLENCE AND ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS, SUPPORTING EDUCATION,
2:58:50PM PROVIDING INTERVENTION AND LAW ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS AROUND
2:58:53PM DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AND SUPPORT FOR AGENCIES, ORGANIZATIONS
2:58:57PM OR INDIVIDUALS TO PROVIDE ADVOCACY EFFORTS, SERVICES, AND
2:59:01PM ASSISTANCE TO VICTIMS.
2:59:04PM >> SECOND.
2:59:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
2:59:07PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN -- SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:59:18PM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS, PLEASE.
2:59:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:59:22PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:59:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:59:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:59:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:59:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:59:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:59:31PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:59:32PM >> COUNCILMAN VIERA, PUBLIC SAFETY.
2:59:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:59:37PM LET'S DO -- I HEREBY MOVE ITEMS 28 THROUGH 33.
2:59:51PM >> SECOND.
2:59:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:59:54PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:59:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:59:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:59:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:59:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:59:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
3:00:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:00:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
3:00:02PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:00:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, PUBLIC WORKS.
3:00:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 34 THROUGH 42.
3:00:12PM >> SECOND.
3:00:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:00:15PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:00:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
3:00:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
3:00:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
3:00:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
3:00:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:00:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
3:00:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
3:00:24PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:00:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
3:00:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, FINANCE COMMITTEE.
3:00:31PM >> MOVE 43 TO 36.
3:00:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:00:37PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:00:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
3:00:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
3:00:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:00:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
3:00:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
3:00:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
3:00:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
3:00:46PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:00:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:00:49PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUILDING, ZONING, PRESERVATION.
3:00:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE ITEMS 47 THROUGH 60.
3:00:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:00:58PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:00:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
3:01:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
3:01:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:01:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
3:01:08PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE] 57 AND 58.
3:01:14PM I WAS AT THE CONFERENCE LAST WEEK.
3:01:16PM AND CRAs IS ABIDING BY LAWS VERSUS S.A.T.
3:01:28PM SO WE JUST WASTED A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY SAP THAT WE SHOULD
3:01:33PM HAVE NEVER WRITTEN FROM WHAT I LEARNED FROM THE CONFERENCE.
3:01:36PM WE HAD $60,000.
3:01:39PM IT'S A LOT OF MONEY WE COULD HAVE USED TO UPDATE THE CMP,
3:01:43PM THE PLAN, THE BYLAWS OF THE CRA.
3:01:49PM I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT TO GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY.
3:01:51PM BUT IN THE FUTURE, SAP.
3:01:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY --
3:02:04PM YOU ARE A YES?
3:02:07PM MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:02:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:02:09PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:02:10PM YOU HAVE TRANSPORTATION.
3:02:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE 61 THROUGH 66.
3:02:15PM >> SECOND.
3:02:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:02:17PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:02:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
3:02:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:02:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
3:02:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
3:02:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
3:02:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
3:02:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
3:02:25PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:02:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:02:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR 67 AND SET THE
3:02:31PM PUBLIC HEARING FOR DECEMBER 8, 2022 AT 5:01 P.M., CHAPTER
3:02:36PM 27.
3:02:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:02:39PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:02:40PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:02:48PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 68.
3:02:50PM FILE CDD 22-77670.
3:03:00PM MRS. JOHNSON-VELEZ.
3:03:01PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
3:03:04PM COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND THERE ARE
3:03:07PM SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS SO IF I COULD ASK YOU TO OPEN.
3:03:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
3:03:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS FROM
3:03:19PM MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY MIRANDA.
3:03:20PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:03:22PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: COUNCIL, THIS ITEM NUMBER 68 IS
3:03:24PM BEFORE YOU UPON THE FILING OF AN AMENDED AND RESTATED
3:03:30PM PETITION TO ESTABLISH THE K-BAR RANCH 3 COMMUNITY
3:03:33PM DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
3:03:35PM IT WAS FILED BY CREWS AND DOUGLAS LLC.
3:03:38PM SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
3:03:41PM DISTRICTS.
3:03:41PM THEY ARE LOCAL PURPOSE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND FOR THE
3:03:50PM OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN
3:03:53PM THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT.
3:03:54PM SO THIS IS A PETITION TO ESTABLISH A NEW DISTRICT IN THE
3:03:57PM EASTERN PORTION OF THE K-BAR RANCH DEVELOPMENT, AND I WILL
3:04:01PM ASK HUNTER MCKEE, THE APPLICANT TO MAKE A BRIEF PRESENTATION
3:04:07PM AFTER WHICH I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT
3:04:09PM AND THEN CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU THAT'S PRESENTED
3:04:11PM FOR FIRST READING.
3:04:12PM >> MY NAME IS TUCKER MASSEY WITH THE LAW FIRM REPRESENTING
3:04:23PM CREWS AND DOUGLAS LLC.
3:04:25PM WITH ME ON THE PHONE ARE ALSO SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
3:04:27PM PETITIONER, MAHONEY AND TIM KLETE WITH DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
3:04:34PM EXCELLENT JOB REVIEWING THE NATURE OF CDDs.
3:04:37PM ALSO BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, COUNCIL MAY REMEMBER IN THE
3:04:42PM SUMMER YOU REMANDED THE BOUNDARIES OF THE K-BAR RANCH TO CDD
3:04:46PM TO REMOVE PROPERTY FROM THAT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
3:04:50PM THAT PROPERTY IS NOW PROPOSED TO BE INCLUDED WITHIN K-BAR
3:04:54PM RANCH 3 CDD.
3:04:57PM OVERALL THEY ARE REQUESTING A TOTAL OF 56 MILLION-DOLLAR IN
3:05:01PM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT'S BOUNDARY, CONSISTS
3:05:04PM OF APPROXIMATELY $372 ACRES.
3:05:06PM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY HAVE, AND
3:05:10PM CERTAINLY HERE TO ANSWER AND RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENT IF
3:05:13PM THIS PROCEEDS.
3:05:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
3:05:17PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUN THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?
3:05:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
3:05:24PM >> SECOND.
3:05:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
3:05:29PM MIRANDA.
3:05:29PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:05:31PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:05:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 68.
3:05:34PM FILE CDD 22-77670.
3:05:38PM SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
3:05:41PM CONSIDERATION.
3:05:41PM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
3:05:46PM FLORIDA ESTABLISHING THE K-BAR RANCH III COMMUNITY
3:05:50PM DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH AND EAST OF
3:05:53PM MEADOW POINTE BOULEVARD, EXTENSION, WEST OF MORRIS BRIDGE
3:05:56PM ROAD AND SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH PASCO COUNTY LINE COMPRISING
3:06:01PM OF 372.204 ACRES OF LAND MORE OR LESS FOR THE PURPOSE OF
3:06:05PM MANAGING AND DELIVERING BASIC COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE
3:06:08PM IMPROVEMENTS, SAID DISTRICT TO BE LOCATED ENTIRELY WITHIN
3:06:12PM THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE SAME BEING MORE
3:06:15PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF PURSUANT TO
3:06:19PM CHAPTER 190 FLORIDA STATUTES, NAME THE DISTRICT AND THE
3:06:23PM INITIAL MEMBERS OF THE DISTRICT'S BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
3:06:27PM CONSENTING TO THE EXERCISE OF CERTAIN SPECIAL POWERS BY THE
3:06:30PM DISTRICT BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PURSUANT TO SECTION 190.012
3:06:36PM (2) FLORIDA STATUTES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING
3:06:40PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:06:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
3:06:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:06:44PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:06:46PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:06:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
3:06:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: (NO AUDIBLE RESPONSE)
3:06:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
3:06:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
3:06:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
3:06:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:06:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
3:06:54PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH GUDES BEING
3:06:56PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
3:06:58PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
3:07:00PM 17th, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
3:07:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:07:05PM MADAM CLERK, ARE OUR PADS UP HERE WORKING?
3:07:13PM THEY ARE.
3:07:13PM THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO TOUCH PAD VOTING.
3:07:16PM THANK YOU.
3:07:19PM JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
3:07:22PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 69, FILE TA/CPA 22-03.
3:07:30PM >> SAM THOMAS: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
3:07:34PM ITEM NUMBER 69 IS TA/CPA 22-03 LOCATED WEST OF NORTH ALBANY
3:07:40PM AVENUE, SOUTH OF WEST NORTH E STREET.
3:07:45PM FROM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 TO URBAN MIXED USE 60.
3:07:49PM YOU APPROVED THIS AMENDMENT AT FEBRUARY THE 22ND.
3:07:55PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
3:07:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
3:08:07PM >> DAVID SINGER, 101 EAST KENNEDY, TAMPA, SUITE 2800.
3:08:17PM WE REST ON OUR HEARING FROM SEPTEMBER 22ND ON THE PLANNING
3:08:20PM COMMISSION AMENDMENT AND ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
3:08:23PM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
3:08:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
3:08:28PM MR. SINGER, I DO HAVE ONE.
3:08:35PM WHAT IS TO GUARANTEE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE
3:08:38PM DEVELOPED?
3:08:41PM ONCE WE REZONE THIS.
3:08:45PM >> SO WE WILL BE BACK IN A FEW ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT ZONING
3:08:48PM BUT --
3:08:50PM >> YOU ARE RIGHT, YOU ARE RIGHT.
3:08:52PM YOU ARE RIGHT.
3:08:52PM I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF.
3:08:55PM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
3:08:57PM >> YES, SIR.
3:08:58PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
3:09:00PM YES, THIS IS THE PLAN AMENDMENT WHICH --
3:09:02PM >> YES, THAT SAME QUESTION WHEN IT COMES BACK UP.
3:09:05PM I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF.
3:09:09PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE
3:09:11PM LEVEL OF AMENDMENT THAT'S ALLOWABLE, THE MAXIMUM DENSITY AND
3:09:14PM SO FORTH.
3:09:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:09:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THIS RELATED THEN TO A PARTICULAR ITEM
3:09:21PM ON TODAY'S AGENDA?
3:09:22PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THERE IS A RELATED REZONING.
3:09:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT NUMBER IS THAT, IF YOU RECALL?
3:09:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN, NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT
3:09:30PM RIGHT NOW IF I DIDN'T GO TO MY LINE OF QUESTIONING.
3:09:35PM I'LL BRING IT UP LATER.
3:09:36PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: NUMBER 81.
3:09:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 81.
3:09:40PM THANK YOU.
3:09:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES
3:09:42PM TO SPEAK TO THIS?
3:09:44PM SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE?
3:09:46PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
3:09:53PM >> SECOND.
3:09:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
3:09:56PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:09:58PM COUNCIL HURTAK.
3:09:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 22-03, ORDINANCE BEING
3:10:08PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
3:10:11PM AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE
3:10:15PM LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY
3:10:18PM LOCATED AT 2110 WEST NORTH A STREET, 105 AND 107 NORTH
3:10:25PM WESTLAND AVENUE, 108 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE NUMBER 1 AND NUMBER
3:10:31PM 2, AND 110 AND 112 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE, FROM COMMUNITY MIXED
3:10:37PM USE 35 CMU-35 TO URBAN MIXED USE 60, UMU-60, PROVIDING FOR
3:10:44PM REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR
3:10:49PM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:10:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
3:10:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
3:10:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:10:57PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
3:11:05PM AND IT WORKED!
3:11:12PM THANK YOU.
3:11:14PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 70, FILE TA/CPA 22-07.
3:11:21PM >>SAM THOMAS: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, 22-09, LOCATED
3:11:26PM NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF WEST FARM AVENUE AND
3:11:32PM MacDILL AVENUE, TO RESIDENTIAL 10.
3:11:35PM YOU APPROVED THIS AT YOUR HEARING SEPTEMBER 22ND.
3:11:39PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
3:11:40PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
3:11:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS?
3:11:44PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
3:11:46PM THIS?
3:11:48PM SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
3:11:50PM >>THE CLERK: NO.
3:11:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON -- THANK YOU.
3:11:59PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
3:12:02PM I'M JUST AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
3:12:03PM I APPRECIATE YOUR APPROVAL.
3:12:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS?
3:12:10PM THANK YOU.
3:12:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
3:12:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:12:19PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:12:20PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:12:22PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:12:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
3:12:28PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AMENDING IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
3:12:33PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT FUTURE LAND USE
3:12:36PM MAP FOR PROPERTY 6522, 6524 AND 6526 SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE
3:12:42PM AND FOLIO NUMBERS 136391.0000 AND 136392.000 FROM
3:12:51PM RESIDENTIAL 20 AND RESIDENTIAL 10 TO RESIDENTIAL 10
3:12:56PM PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING
3:13:00PM FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:13:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
3:13:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLACE YOUR VOTE AND RECORD.
3:13:05PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:13:10PM >> 71, FILE TA/CPA 22-10.
3:13:14PM >>SAM THOMAS: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, 71, TA/CPA 22-10,
3:13:21PM MAP AMENDMENT FOR PROPERTY LOCATE AT 3204 AND 3210 WEST
3:13:25PM CYPRESS STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL 20 TO MIXED USE 35, YOU
3:13:30PM APPROVED THIS AT YOUR SEPTEMBER 22ND MEETING.
3:13:34PM I AM HERE FOR SECOND READING.
3:13:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
3:13:37PM THANK YOU.
3:13:37PM PETITIONER?
3:13:42PM OKAY.
3:13:42PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
3:13:45PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 71?
3:13:49PM ANYONE ONLINE?
3:13:50PM THANK YOU.
3:13:51PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:13:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:13:55PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:13:58PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:13:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED ON SECOND
3:14:00PM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040
3:14:03PM TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE
3:14:06PM LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3204 AND 3210 WEST
3:14:11PM CYPRESS STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL 20 TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
3:14:18PM PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
3:14:21PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:14:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
3:14:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED
3:14:26PM BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:14:29PM PLACE YOUR VOTE AND RECORD.
3:14:30PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:14:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:14:38PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 72.
3:14:40PM FILE TPA 22-11.
3:14:44PM >>SAM THOMAS: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
3:14:45PM ITEM 72 IS TA/CPA 22-11 MAP AMENDMENT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED
3:14:50PM AT 2502 AND 2504 NORTH BOULEVARD FROM RESIDENTIAL 20
3:14:55PM RESIDENTIAL 10 TO RESIDENTIAL 35 AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
3:15:00PM AND RESIDENTIAL 10.
3:15:01PM YOU APPROVED THIS AMENDMENT AT YOUR HEARING ON SEPTEMBER
3:15:03PM 22ND AND IT'S BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
3:15:06PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
3:15:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
3:15:10PM PETITIONER?
3:15:16PM NO PETITIONER. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES
3:15:18PM TO SPEAK TO THIS?
3:15:23PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:15:25PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES OR MIRANDA?
3:15:29PM BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:15:30PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:15:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE TA/CPA 22-11
3:15:37PM ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
3:15:40PM AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE
3:15:43PM LAND USE ELEMENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT
3:15:46PM 2502 AND 2504 NORTH BOULEVARD FROM RESIDENTIAL 20 AND
3:15:52PM RESIDENTIAL 10 TO RESIDENTIAL 35 AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
3:15:57PM PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING
3:15:59PM FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:16:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:16:04PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:16:06PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
3:16:07PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:16:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:16:19PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 73.
3:16:31PM THESE ARE ALL QUASI-JUDICIAL.
3:16:32PM ANYONE WHO IS GOING TO BE GIVING ANY TYPE OF ESTIMATE --
3:16:36PM ESTIMATE? -- TESTIMONY OR COMMENTS IN THE REMAINING AGENDA
3:16:44PM ITEMS, PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN IN.
3:16:47PM ANYONE GIVING ANY TESTIMONY.
3:16:49PM >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
3:16:52PM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
3:16:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 73, FILE VAC 22-10.
3:17:02PM >> ROSS SAMMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. PRESENTING FILE
3:17:06PM VAC 22-10.
3:17:08PM THIS IS THE VACATING REQUEST PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
3:17:10PM AND ADOPTION.
3:17:11PM AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
3:17:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
3:17:21PM PETITIONER?
3:17:32PM >>CATHERINE COYLE: URBAN PLANNING INNOVATIONS, 5312 NORTH
3:17:37PM SUWANNEE.
3:17:38PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
3:17:40PM YOUR APPROVAL.
3:17:40PM THANK YOU.
3:17:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
3:17:43PM IN IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
3:17:46PM THIS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 73?
3:17:49PM IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE?
3:17:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
3:17:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:17:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:17:55PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:17:57PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:18:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 73, VAC 20-22, AN ORDINANCE BEING
3:18:02PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
3:18:02PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING
3:18:08PM THAT ALLEYWAY, CERTAIN PARTS OF CYPRESS STREET, NORTH
3:18:12PM BOULEVARD AND EDISON AVENUE RIGHTS-OF-WAY ALL OF WHICH ARE
3:18:16PM LOCATED SOUTH OF ARCH STREET, NORTH OF LEMON STREET, WEST OF
3:18:20PM NORTH BOULEVARD AND EAST OF DELAWARE AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT
3:18:23PM OF KNOWLES SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
3:18:27PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA IN THE CITY -- I ALREADY READ
3:18:33PM THAT, DIDN'T I -- AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2
3:18:37PM HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND
3:18:39PM RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING
3:18:42PM FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR
3:18:45PM DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICTS,
3:18:49PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:18:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
3:18:52PM >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
3:18:55PM MANISCALCO.
3:18:57PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
3:18:58PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:19:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 74.
3:19:06PM FILE REZ-22-42.
3:19:09PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
3:19:16PM THIS ITEM ALSO GOES WITH THE VACATING ITEM, 73, WHICH WAS
3:19:21PM JUST VOTED UPON, BUT THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR
3:19:24PM SECOND READING.
3:19:25PM THE APPLICANT IS ASHLEY HOLDINGS.
3:19:28PM THERE AGAIN BY CATHERINE COYLE.
3:19:31PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
3:19:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
3:19:35PM PETITIONER.
3:19:43PM >>CATHERINE COYLE: URBAN PLANNING INNOVATIONS, 5312 NORTH
3:19:45PM SUWANNEE, AGAIN AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
3:19:47PM I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
3:19:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
3:19:51PM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA
3:19:54PM ITEM NUMBER 74?
3:19:56PM SEEING NONE, ANYONE ONLINE?
3:19:58PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:19:59PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:20:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
3:20:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
3:20:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:20:10PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:20:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: REZ 22-42, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
3:20:15PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
3:20:18PM IN THE GENERAL VICINITY MUCH 904 AND 1120 NORTH BOULEVARD,
3:20:22PM 909, 911, 913 AND 1002 WEST CYPRESS STREET AND 902, 906 AND
3:20:30PM 912 AND 914 NORTH EDISON AVENUE IN CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AS
3:20:35PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
3:20:37PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND
3:20:42PM RM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
3:20:45PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED USE COMMERCIAL PROVIDING
3:20:48PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:20:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:20:51PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
3:20:52PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:20:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 75.
3:21:02PM VAC 22-16.
3:21:04PM >>ROSS SAMMONS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
3:21:10PM VAC 22-16 IS A VACATING REQUEST PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
3:21:14PM AND ADOPTION.
3:21:15PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
3:21:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
3:21:18PM PETITIONER.
3:21:19PM >> THIS IS THE SECOND OF THREE.
3:21:25PM STILL NOT ZONING YET.
3:21:26PM THIS IS J JUST VACATING.
3:21:28PM WE REST AGAIN ON OUR PRESENTATION, HERE TO ANSWER ANY
3:21:33PM QUESTIONS.
3:21:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
3:21:35PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
3:21:37PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 75?
3:21:40PM SEEING NONE, ANYONE ONLINE?
3:21:43PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:21:45PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:21:48PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:21:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE VAC 22-16, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
3:21:53PM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
3:21:55PM TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND
3:21:58PM ABANDONING THAT ALLEYWAY, RIGHT-OF-WAY, LOCATED NORTH OF
3:22:02PM KENNEDY BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF NORTH A STREET, EAST OF WESTLAND
3:22:06PM AVENUE, AND WEST OF ALBANY AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF
3:22:09PM WEST LAND SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH
3:22:13PM COUNTY FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF
3:22:17PM SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS,
3:22:20PM AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR
3:22:24PM ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR
3:22:27PM DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS, AND REPEALING CONFLICTS,
3:22:30PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:22:32PM >> SECOND.
3:22:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:22:36PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:22:38PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
3:22:39PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO.
3:22:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 76, FILE AB 2-22-04.
3:22:54PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
3:23:00PM THIS IS PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AT A
3:23:03PM LOCATION 1724 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE.
3:23:06PM PROPOSED SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES FOR RESTAURANT,
3:23:11PM CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY, FOR SALE OF BEER AND WINE.
3:23:15PM SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
3:23:17PM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
3:23:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
3:23:21PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
3:23:22PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
3:23:27PM MIKE DIMAIO, 4301 WEST BOY SCOUT BOULEVARD, WE REST ON OUR
3:23:35PM SEPTEMBER 22ND HEARING, REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
3:23:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
3:23:41PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?
3:23:46PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 76.
3:23:50PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:23:52PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:23:53PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:23:58PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:23:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 76.
3:24:05PM FILE AB 2-22-04.
3:24:07PM AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
3:24:10PM ADOPTION.
3:24:10PM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR
3:24:13PM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, RESTAURANT, CONSUMPTION ON
3:24:16PM PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT
3:24:19PM OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT
3:24:23PM 1724 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE
3:24:27PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 PROVIDING THAT ALL
3:24:29PM ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED,
3:24:32PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:24:32PM >> SECOND.
3:24:34PM >> MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
3:24:37PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:24:38PM PLACE YOUR VOTE AND RECORD.
3:24:40PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:24:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:24:45PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 77, FAIL AB 2-22-16.
3:24:50PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
3:24:54PM THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT
3:24:57PM THE LOCATION 10802 AND 1804 EAST 4th AVENUE.
3:25:02PM THIS IS PROPOSED SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES SALES, SMALL
3:25:07PM VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY, FOR BEER, WINE AND
3:25:10PM LIQUOR.
3:25:11PM SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
3:25:13PM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
3:25:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
3:25:18PM PETITIONER.
3:25:28PM NO PETITIONER.
3:25:29PM OKAY.
3:25:29PM >> I NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
3:25:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
3:25:49PM IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE GIVING TESTIMONY.
3:25:51PM BE SWORN IN, PLEASE.
3:25:52PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
3:25:55PM YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
3:25:57PM TRUTH?
3:25:59PM >> I DO.
3:26:00PM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
3:26:03PM >> MEGAN SMITH.
3:26:11PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
3:26:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OF PETITIONER?
3:26:19PM SEEING NONE IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE
3:26:20PM TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 77?
3:26:24PM WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
3:26:26PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:26:29PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:26:30PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:26:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:26:33PM THANK YOU.
3:26:33PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:26:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
3:26:36PM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
3:26:39PM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR
3:26:42PM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES
3:26:45PM ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF
3:26:47PM ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN LOT,
3:26:51PM PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 18023 AND 1804 EAST 4th
3:26:56PM AVENUE TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
3:26:59PM SECTION 2 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
3:27:01PM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICTS ARE REPEALED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
3:27:03PM DATE.
3:27:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA --
3:27:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHO?
3:27:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LUIS, I AM SO SORRY.
3:27:16PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:27:18PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:27:21PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:27:27PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
3:27:28PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:27:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DON'T SECOND A MOTION
3:27:41PM MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, OKAY?
3:27:44PM [ LAUGHTER ]
3:27:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE 100% CORRECT.
3:27:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I AM SORRY.
3:27:53PM OKAY.
3:27:54PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 78.
3:27:56PM FILE REZ 22-14.
3:27:59PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
3:28:02PM THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AT
3:28:06PM A LOCATION 6522, 6524, AND 6526 SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE AND
3:28:13PM FOLIO NUMBERS 136391.0000 AND 136392.0000.
3:28:23PM PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD
3:28:27PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
3:28:30PM SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED IN TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
3:28:34PM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
3:28:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
3:28:37PM PETITIONER?
3:28:38PM >> CLAY BRICKLEMYER, HILL, WARD, HENDERSON.
3:28:47PM WE HAVE SUBMITTED CHANGES AND WOULD ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
3:28:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES
3:28:51PM TO SPEAK TO THIS?
3:28:54PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 78.
3:28:56PM SEEING NONE, I THINK MS. STROHMEYER IS ON THE LINE.
3:29:00PM >>THE CLERK: MS. STROHMEYER, PLEASE ENABLE YOUR VIDEO AND
3:29:09PM UNMUTE YOURSELF.
3:29:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. STROHMEYER, ARE YOU THERE?
3:29:38PM ALL RIGHT, LET'S PROCEED.
3:29:40PM IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK?
3:29:46PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:29:48PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:29:49PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:29:51PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:29:53PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:29:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE REZ 22-14,
3:29:58PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
3:30:00PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
3:30:02PM 6522, 6524 AND 6526 SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE AND FOLIO NUMBERS
3:30:08PM 136391.0000 AND 136392.0000 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
3:30:17PM AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
3:30:19PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO
3:30:23PM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED,
3:30:26PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:30:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:30:30PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:30:32PM PLACE YOUR VOTE AND RECORD.
3:30:34PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:30:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 79, FILE REZ 22-47.
3:30:46PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
3:30:49PM THIS CASE IS BEING PRESENT FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
3:30:53PM AT THE LOCATIONS 1401, 1409, 1411, 1413 AND 1415 EAST
3:31:00PM 29th AVENUE AND 3510 NORTH 15th STREET.
3:31:07PM THE PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
3:31:10PM AND CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
3:31:15PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI-DETACHED AND DETACHED.
3:31:18PM SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED IN.
3:31:20PM I AM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
3:31:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
3:31:24PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
3:31:25PM >> CATHERINE COYLE, DOMAIN HOMES, 5703 SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE.
3:31:36PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
3:31:39PM YOUR APPROVAL.
3:31:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. COLE?
3:31:44PM THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE
3:31:45PM TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 79?
3:31:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
3:31:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO ONE ONLINE.
3:31:52PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:31:53PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
3:32:00PM MIRANDA.
3:32:00PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:32:04PM YES, YOU ARE CORRECT.
3:32:05PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:32:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: REZ 22-47 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
3:32:13PM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE JESS GENERAL VICINITY OF
3:32:17PM 1401, 1409, 1411, 1413 AND 1415 EAST 29th AVENUE AND
3:32:23PM 3510 NORTH 15th STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AS
3:32:26PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
3:32:29PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND
3:32:31PM CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
3:32:34PM RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI-DETACHED AND DETACHED,
3:32:38PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:32:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED
3:32:41PM BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:32:42PM PLACE YOUR VOTE AND RECORD.
3:32:47PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA AND HURTAK VOTING
3:32:51PM NO.
3:32:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 80, REZ 22-51.
3:32:58PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
3:33:00PM THIS CASE IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
3:33:03PM AT A LOCATION 6202 INTERBAY BOULEVARD AND 6001 SOUTH
3:33:09PM MARTINDALE AVENUE.
3:33:11PM THIS PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
3:33:14PM AND CN COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
3:33:18PM RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
3:33:21PM SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED IN.
3:33:23PM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
3:33:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
3:33:30PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
3:33:34PM OKAY.
3:33:56PM PETITIONER, COULD YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE
3:33:59PM SWORN IN?
3:34:00PM OKAY, YOU ARE STILL MUTED.
3:34:01PM YOU ARE STILL MUTED.
3:34:02PM >>THE CLERK: CLICK ON THE ICON MIKE ON THE CONTROL PANEL TO
3:34:16PM UNMUTE YOURSELF.
3:34:17PM >> I'M READY.
3:34:25PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
3:34:27PM YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
3:34:29PM TRUTH?
3:34:30PM >> I DO.
3:34:31PM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
3:34:32PM >> THIS IS JD, ENGINEERING, I AM REPRESENTING THE OWNER OF
3:34:38PM THE PROPERTY HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
3:34:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:34:47PM ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS?
3:34:50PM SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE?
3:34:52PM I BELIEVE MS. STROHMEYER IS ONLINE?
3:34:56PM MS. STROHMEYER, ARE YOU THERE?
3:35:03PM THANK YOU.
3:35:04PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
3:35:07PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 80?
3:35:10PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
3:35:13PM MANISCALCO.
3:35:14PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:35:16PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:35:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: REZ 22-51.
3:35:22PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
3:35:25PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
3:35:27PM 6202 INTERBAY BOULEVARD AND 6001 SOUTH MARTINDALE AVENUE IN
3:35:33PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
3:35:35PM IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60
3:35:38PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND CN COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO
3:35:41PM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED,
3:35:44PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:35:44PM >> SECOND.
3:35:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:35:47PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:35:49PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
3:35:50PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:35:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 81.
3:36:01PM FILE NUMBER REZ 22-71.
3:36:04PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
3:36:07PM THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AT
3:36:10PM A LOCATION 2110 WEST NORTH A STREET, 105 AND 107 NORTH
3:36:16PM WESTLAND AVENUE, 106, 110 AND 112 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE, 108
3:36:24PM NORTH ALBANY AVENUE NUMBER 1 AND NUMBER 2, UNIT 2, AND 2101,
3:36:31PM 2117 AND 2121 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
3:36:36PM THIS PROPOSED REZONING FROM CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND RM-16
3:36:42PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
3:36:45PM RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, RETAIL SALES, RESTAURANT AND
3:36:48PM PERSONAL SERVICES.
3:36:50PM SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED IN TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
3:36:53PM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
3:36:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
3:37:03PM I SEE THIS FLOOD OF ATTORNEYS WALKING TOWARD ME.
3:37:10PM >> SINGER, 101 EAST KENNEDY.
3:37:13PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
3:37:14PM NOW WE ARE AT THE THIRD OF THE THREE.
3:37:16PM NOW WE HAVE THE REZONING PORTION.
3:37:18PM AND AGAIN WE INCORPORATE ALL THE TESTIMONY AT PRESENTATION
3:37:23PM GIVEN ON SEPTEMBER 22ND.
3:37:26PM AND I AM HERE TO REPORT JUST A FEW THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED
3:37:29PM SINCE THEN THAT HOPEFULLY WILL ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS IF
3:37:32PM ANYONE STILL HAS THEM.
3:37:33PM THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT LOADING AND DELIVERIES.
3:37:36PM WE BELIEVE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PROCESS HAS BEEN MADE.
3:37:40PM MR. CITRO, YOU HAD ASKED IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY FOR
3:37:42PM ADDITIONAL AREAS.
3:37:44PM WE HAVE REPURPOSED THAT ADDITIONAL AREA DIRECTLY BEHIND THE
3:37:47PM JERSEY MIKES INTO ADDITIONAL LOADING OPPORTUNITY.
3:37:50PM WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THE CITY ON THE PARKING SPOTS ON
3:37:54PM NORTH A STREET.
3:37:56PM TO BE 30-MINUTE SPOTS, DEDICATED TO DELIVERIES AND DEDICATED
3:38:01PM TO RIDE SHARE.
3:38:04PM SO THAT WILL TAKE SOME OF THE BURDEN OFF THAT OTHERWISE
3:38:07PM WOULD BE A GARAGE.
3:38:08PM BUT THOSE DELIVERIES WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO BE MADE RIGHT
3:38:11PM BEHIND WHERE THAT JERSEY MIKE'S IS NOW.
3:38:14PM SECOND, YOU WILL RECALL THERE WAS PRETTY ROBUST DISCUSSION
3:38:20PM ABOUT RELOCATION OF TENANTS AND NEW LANDLORDS COMING IN AND
3:38:26PM DISCUSSION WITH YOUR ATTORNEYS AND WITH US ABOUT HOW PERHAPS
3:38:28PM THAT WAS NOT APPROPRIATE TO BE CONSIDERED, AND AGAIN I DO
3:38:31PM NOT WANT TO SUGGEST THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE TO BE CONSIDERED.
3:38:35PM HOWEVER, THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT TESTIMONY, SO I DO FEEL IT'S
3:38:39PM APPROPRIATE TO TELL YOU THAT THE HOUSE OF SHADOWS, WHO HAD A
3:38:43PM GOOD NUMBER OF CORRESPONDENCE WITH YOU, IN YOUR JUDICIAL IN
3:38:48PM BOX, QUASI-JUDICIAL IN BOX, HAS WITHDRAWN THEIR OPPOSITION,
3:38:52PM AFTER DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT.
3:38:56PM AND THAT WAS ABLE TO BE DONE, AS YOU RECALL, WE WERE NOT
3:39:02PM ALLOWED TO SPEAK WITH THE TENANTS WITHOUT LANDLORD
3:39:06PM PERMISSION.
3:39:07PM AFTER THE HEARING WE GOT THE LANDLORDS PERMISSION.
3:39:11PM WE SPOKE WITH THE HOUSE OF SHADOWS.
3:39:13PM AND THE HOUSE OF SHADOWS OWNERS HAVE WITHDRAWN THEIR
3:39:18PM RESISTANCE TO THIS REZONING.
3:39:20PM THIRD QUESTION, WILL IT BE BUILT, MR. CITRO?
3:39:23PM THERE IS STRONG ECONOMIC INCENTIVE FOR THIS TO BE REBUILT.
3:39:26PM THERE'S BEEN A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN
3:39:29PM POURED INTO THIS, NUMBER ONE.
3:39:31PM NUMBER TWO, AS YOU KNOW, PD REZONINGS, IF THEY ARE NOT BUILT
3:39:34PM WITHIN FIVE YEARS, THEY REVERT BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL ZONING
3:39:38PM ASSOCIATION THERE IS THAT PROTECTION THAT THE CODE BUILD IN.
3:39:43PM AND THIRD, THIS IS NOT A NEW DEVELOPER.
3:39:45PM THESE ARE FOLKS WITH A TRACK RECORD.
3:39:47PM THEY HAVE DONE THIS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
3:39:49PM THEY HAVE INVESTED TIME AND MONEY AND FULLY INTEND TO BUILD.
3:39:53PM AND HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION ON THAT ISSUE.
3:39:57PM THE LAST THING I WILL BRING UP, YOU RECOGNIZE THAT MS.
3:40:00PM MANDELL IS HERE WITH US IN COUNCIL TODAY, SIMILAR TO THE
3:40:03PM DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD ON THE 22ND OF SEPTEMBER, THERE IS
3:40:09PM CONCERN ABOUT PARKING, AND PARKING FOR JERSEY MIKES, AND
3:40:13PM WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO PARK.
3:40:15PM AGAIN, I WILL REMIND YOU THAT PARKING REMAINS UNCHANGED OUT
3:40:19PM FRONT OF THE BUILDING, AND ALSO I WOULD POINT YOU TO THE
3:40:21PM SITE PLAN THAT SPECIFICALLY CALLS FOR THEIR USE, THEIR
3:40:24PM RESTAURANT AND RETAIL USE TO ADD 28 SPACES.
3:40:28PM IN THE SITE PLAN, IT CAN'T BE CHANGED.
3:40:30PM SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
3:40:32PM I WILL ALSO REMIND YOU BEFORE I STEP ASIDE THAT THIS
3:40:37PM APPLICATION HAS SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
3:40:40PM THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH WAS SIGNIFICANT.
3:40:43PM OVER 2,000 CONTACTS MADE BY THIS APPLICANT.
3:40:48PM AND THEY REMAIN ENDORSED BY THE NORTH HYDE PARK CIVIC
3:40:51PM ASSOCIATION AND THE NORTH HYDE PARK BUSINESS ALLIANCE, EVEN
3:40:55PM AFTER THE LAST HEARING.
3:40:56PM SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR APPROVAL
3:40:59PM OF THE ZONING.
3:41:00PM I AM SURE THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO
3:41:02PM SPEAK BEINGS AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
3:41:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:41:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I RECALL THE ISSUES ABOUT
3:41:11PM THE LANDLORD SITUATION.
3:41:12PM THERE ARE THREE TENANTS, CORRECT?
3:41:15PM >> HOUSE OF BEAUTY, HOUSE OF SHADOWS, AND THE POWERSTORIES
3:41:22PM THEATER.
3:41:23PM I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO HOUSE OF BEAUTY AND HOUSE OF SHADOWS.
3:41:28PM THEY HAVE WITHDRAWN THEIR OPPOSITION.
3:41:29PM AS TO THE POWERSTORIES THEATER, THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION
3:41:33PM BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE THEATER.
3:41:35PM I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IT HAS RESULTED IN ANY SORT OF
3:41:40PM AGREEMENT OTHER THAN THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED THAT THE POWER
3:41:45PM STORAGE THEATER CAN REMAIN THROUGHOUT THEIR ENTIRE LEASE
3:41:50PM TERM.
3:41:50PM THE LEASE TERM ENDS IN MID 2023.
3:41:53PM THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED THEY CAN STAY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE
3:41:57PM LEASE SO THAT IS THE SAME THING THEY WOULD GET WITH THEIR
3:42:00PM CURRENT LANDLORD, OR THIS APPLICANT, OR ANYONE THAT WOULD
3:42:03PM COME AFTER TO POTENTIALLY PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY.
3:42:06PM YOU CAN ONLY GET WHAT YOU AGREE TO.
3:42:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM
3:42:16PM NUMBER 81?
3:42:20PM MS. MANDELL?
3:42:22PM >>JULIA MANDELL: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
3:42:26PM FOR THE RECORD, JULIA MANDELL, GRAY ROBINSON, 401 EAST
3:42:30PM JACKSON STREET.
3:42:32PM I'M HERE REPRESENTING JM FOOD INCORPORATED.
3:42:36PM WITH ME IS THE PRIORITIES OF JERSEY MIKE'S, A TENANT IN THE
3:42:40PM BUILDING WHERE THE JERSEY MIKE'S CURRENTLY RESIDES.
3:42:44PM I AM GOING TO TRY TO USE THIS.
3:42:48PM BEFORE I GET STARTED AS IT RELATES TO THE ZONING, I FEEL I
3:42:51PM NEED TO CLARIFY AN ISSUE THAT'S COME UP IN THE PREVIOUS
3:42:54PM HEARING AND THAT'S RELATED TO THE APPROVAL OF THE JERSEY
3:42:57PM MIKE'S AND WHAT THEY WERE PLANNED AS PART OF THEIR ORIGINAL
3:43:00PM APPROVAL.
3:43:01PM THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT THEY WERE APPROVED FOR WHEN
3:43:03PM THEY CAME IN FOR CHANGE OF USE IN 2012.
3:43:08PM THEY WERE GRANTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN THIS LOCATION AS
3:43:12PM A RESTAURANT WITH 28 PARKING SPACES.
3:43:14PM AND SO SINCE IT WAS A QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THEREIN WAS AN
3:43:18PM ACTUAL APPROVAL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, I ACTUALLY HAVE STAFF
3:43:23PM PLANS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THEY WERE TO HAVE THAT
3:43:25PM CONVERSATION.
3:43:25PM I CAN SHOW IT.
3:43:26PM BUT THAT WAS AN ACTUAL APPROVAL DURING THAT PROCESS DURING
3:43:29PM THEIR ZONING REVIEW.
3:43:30PM SO THIS IS HOW THE SITE CURRENTLY IS CONFIGURED.
3:43:34PM AND IT SHOWS THE PARKING IN THE CENTER, THE FURNITURE STORE,
3:43:38PM AND THIS IS THE JERSEY MIKE'S WITH PARKING IN THE FRONT, AND
3:43:41PM ALL OF THE PARKING SPOTS WERE AVAILABLE FOR THE JERSEY
3:43:44PM MIKE'S FOR PARKING AS WELL AS A DUMPSTER LOCATION, THE USE
3:43:48PM OF THE ALLEY FOR THEIR DELIVERIES.
3:43:52PM OUR CONCERN IS THE CHANGE TO THAT CONFIGURATION.
3:43:54PM JERSEY MIKE'S HAD A LEASE ON THIS PROPERTY SINCE 2012.
3:44:01PM THERE IS FIVE MORE YEARS ON THIS LEASE.
3:44:03PM AND SO THEY ARE NOT IN THE SAME POSITION MAYBE AS SOME OF
3:44:06PM THE OTHER TENANTS BUT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN IN THIS
3:44:10PM LOCATION.
3:44:10PM THIS IS THE CURRENT PROPOSED SITE PLAN, AND I AM GOING TO
3:44:13PM ADDRESS WHAT MR. SINGER HAD SAID IN TERMS OF RIGHTS GRANTED
3:44:17PM IN HERE BECAUSE I AM NOT SURE I EITHER AGAIN WITH THAT OR WE
3:44:21PM MAY NEED SOME CLARIFICATION.
3:44:22PM THE WAY THIS SITE PLAN IS SET UP, IT IS IN ESSENCE CUTS OFF
3:44:26PM THE ALLEY ACCESS FORTUNATE PURPOSES OF DELIVERY, HAS NO
3:44:30PM LOCATION FOR DUMPSTER FOR THIS OUTPARCEL.
3:44:33PM WHETHER OR NOT THIS REMAINS A JERSEY MIKE'S OR GOES INTO
3:44:36PM SOME OTHER USE, THERE'S AN OUTPARCEL HERE THAT IN ESSENCE
3:44:40PM THROUGH THE SITE PLAN HAS ABOUT 11 SPACES IN THE FRONT, NO
3:44:44PM ACCESS ON THE SITE PLAN FOR DELIVERY, AND NO LOCATION THAT I
3:44:49PM CAN SEE FOR DUMPSTER ACCESS.
3:44:52PM IT IS ALSO DESIGNATED AS --
3:44:56PM EVEN IF JERSEY MIKE'S GOES AWAY THAT REMAINS.
3:45:00PM TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OR TO SPEAK TO WHAT MR. SINGER SAID,
3:45:04PM WE NEED SOME CLARIFICATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, ONE, THE
3:45:06PM SITE PLAN AS MR. SINGER SUGGESTS DOES PROVIDE FOR THE ACCESS
3:45:11PM HERE FOR DELIVERIES, AND ALSO THE SITE PLAN PARKING.
3:45:19PM I AM NOT SURE IT'S ACCURATE TO SAY THAT JERSEY MIKE'S HAS
3:45:23PM BEEN GRANTED 28 SPACES.
3:45:25PM I WOULD SAY THEY HAVEN'T AND THERE'S NOTHING ON THE SITE
3:45:27PM PLAN THAT SPECIFICALLY GRANTS IT.
3:45:29PM SO I WOULD ASK FOR CLARIFICATION OF THAT.
3:45:30PM YOU HAVE THE LETTER.
3:45:31PM I WOULD REITERATE THAT COMMENT.
3:45:33PM AND WE ARE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO IN
3:45:36PM THE FUTURE.
3:45:37PM THANK YOU.
3:45:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:45:40PM IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO
3:45:43PM SPEAK TO AGENDA NUMBER 81, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 81?
3:45:55PM >> HELLO, COUNCIL.
3:45:56PM I HAVEN'T BEEN SWORN IN.
3:46:05PM >>THE CLERK:
3:46:08PM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
3:46:09PM >> YES.
3:46:09PM AND THANK YOU.
3:46:11PM LAST MONTH I WAS THERE, AND I SPOKE ON BEHALF OF --
3:46:18PM >> PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
3:46:20PM >> MY NAME IS LEWIS SIMMONS, 1507 NORTH B STREET, TAMPA.
3:46:27PM LAST MONTH, I CAME HERE AND SPOKE ON BEHALF OF THE
3:46:31PM DEVELOPER.
3:46:32PM AND MY CONCERN WAS WHEN IT RAINS, KENNEDY BOULEVARD FLOODS
3:46:39PM UP IN THAT AREA.
3:46:41PM AND ALL THE TRAFFIC FROM KENNEDY, GOES ON NORTH B STREET, SO
3:46:48PM NOW ON NORTH B IS ALMOST LIKE A SUPERHIGHWAY BECAUSE ALL THE
3:46:52PM TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING COME THROUGH.
3:46:58PM WE HAD MEETINGS AND HYDE PARK ASSOCIATION AND MEETINGS WITH
3:47:00PM THE DEVELOPER THEY SAID THEY WOULD PUT A DRAINAGE DITCH,
3:47:04PM SOME TYPE OF DRAINAGE SYSTEM ON KENNEDY, AND PROCEED IN
3:47:10PM BUILDING A NEW FACILITY THERE.
3:47:13PM SO THOSE ARE ACTUALLY MY MAIN CONCERNS.
3:47:16PM THEN I STARTED GOING AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND DECIDED,
3:47:23PM YES, NEED HOUSING IN THE AREA, BUT YET BECAUSE EVERYONE IS
3:47:30PM ACTUALLY COMING INTO THAT MAIN AREA, BECAUSE THEY CALL IT
3:47:34PM THE YUPPIE AREA, BECAUSE IT'S SO CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN, CLOSE TO
3:47:38PM THE AIRPORT, CLOSE TO HYDE PARK, TOWARDS THE HIGHWAY, AND
3:47:48PM THESE ARE ALL AROUND, SO THEY COME AND GO.
3:47:56PM AND I DON'T HAVE NO ANIMOSITY OR NO BAD FEELINGS ABOUT THE
3:48:02PM BUILDINGS COMING THERE.
3:48:04PM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE RESIDENTS COME IN AND REDO THE
3:48:09PM STREETS, REDO THE STORM DRAINS AND THE SEWAGE AREA IN THAT
3:48:14PM AREA.
3:48:14PM SO FROM MY PROPOSAL, IF IT'S WORTH ANYTHING, THAT I WOULD
3:48:19PM LIKE TO SEE THE T FACILITY MOVE FORWARD AND THRIVE
3:48:27PM THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
3:48:28PM AND SO FAR ALL MY NEIGHBORS, THEY AGREE WITH ME THAT WE NEED
3:48:33PM TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ROAD SITUATION, AND ELIMINATE THE
3:48:37PM ROAD SITUATION, AND THEY CAN HAVE MORE SPACE FOR PARKING.
3:48:42PM THANK YOU.
3:48:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:48:43PM >> NATHAN HAGAN.
3:48:54PM I LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
3:48:56PM YOU MOVED THERE THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.
3:48:58PM AND THE MARKET VALUE OF MY RENT PERSONALLY HAS GONE UP ABOUT
3:49:04PM 50% IN THAT TIME.
3:49:06PM I STARTED COMING TO THE COUNCIL WITH LAND USE ISSUES BECAUSE
3:49:11PM THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH OPTIONS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I
3:49:13PM LIVE IN NOW FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME, IF I HAD TO RENEW MY LEASE
3:49:20PM AND I COULD STAY WHERE I AM.
3:49:22PM WHEREVER I GO THERE'S JUST NOT OPTIONS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
3:49:24PM AND OTHER TYPE OF HOUSING BESIDES APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
3:49:27PM BUT I WILL JUST SAY, I AM EXCITED TO HAVE THIS PROJECT HERE
3:49:30PM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
3:49:32PM I THINK THAT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT MODEL FOR KENNEDY
3:49:35PM BOULEVARD, THE FIRST PROJECT LIKE THAT THAT I AM AWARE OF,
3:49:42PM KENNEDY, AND IT'S A GOOD MODEL FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT
3:49:45PM HOPEFULLY CREATING A LOT MORE HOUSING WHICH IS OUR AGENDA IN
3:49:49PM THE COMP PLAN.
3:49:51PM SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
3:49:55PM THANK YOU.
3:49:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
3:50:00PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE MR. VICTOR HUGGINS.
3:50:07PM HE NEEDS TO TURN ON VIDEO AND AUDIO.
3:50:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
3:50:23PM BOTH ARE ENGINEERS?
3:50:25PM MR. HUSAIN.
3:50:26PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
3:50:30PM SPEAKING ON THE PARKING, I KNOW THAT IT WAS MENTIONED THAT
3:50:34PM THE SITE PLAN STATES THAT THERE'S PARKING DESIGNATED FOR
3:50:37PM JERSEY MIKE'S.
3:50:39PM THE SITE PLAN SHOWS WHAT'S REQUIRED, BUT THERE'S NO ACTUAL
3:50:44PM CONCRETE CLARIFICATION ON WHAT IS BEING PROVIDED JUST FOR
3:50:47PM THAT JERSEY MIKE'S.
3:50:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
3:50:55PM THANK YOU.
3:51:01PM REBUTTAL, PLEASE.
3:51:03PM >>DAVID SINGER: WE WOULD LIKE TO CLEAR UP ANY CONFUSION.
3:51:06PM MY COLLEAGUE MR. RICE TO SHOW THE PARKING CHART.
3:51:14PM SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
3:51:21PM THE EXISTING RESTAURANT, THE EXISTING RETAIL.
3:51:24PM YOU WILL SEE THAT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE WHERE IT SAYS RETAIL
3:51:27PM PARKING REQUIRED, RESTAURANT, EXISTING, 2505, RETAIL
3:51:32PM EXISTING 2500.
3:51:33PM GO AHEAD OVER TO THE RIGHT WHERE IT SAYS REQUIRED PARKING,
3:51:37PM YOU WILL SEE THE NUMBER 20.
3:51:39PM AND YOU WILL SEE THE NUMBER 8.
3:51:41PM 20 AND 8 EQUAL 28.
3:51:43PM THAT IS REQUIRED PARKING FOR THIS RETAIL AND RESTAURANT.
3:51:47PM AND WHAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO AND WHAT WE NEVER DO IN A
3:51:50PM ZONING HEARING IS TALK ABOUT WHERE SPECIFICALLY A RETAIL
3:51:54PM TENANT'S PARKING IS GOING TO BE DESIGNATED IN THE PARKING
3:51:57PM LOT.
3:51:57PM THAT'S A PRIVATE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE LANDLORD AND THE
3:52:00PM TENANT.
3:52:01PM THEY HAVE TO HAVE 28 SPACES.
3:52:02PM WE WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
3:52:04PM OF DOORS COURSE WE WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
3:52:07PM REMEMBER FROM THAT ON SEPTEMBER 22ND WHEN WE SHOWED THE SITE
3:52:09PM PLAN, WHERE THE DOOR FROM THAT PARKING GARAGE EXITS IS ABOUT
3:52:14PM 10 FEET TO THE FRONT DOOR OF THE JERSEY MIKE'S.
3:52:18PM SO 28 SPACES ARE REQUIRED, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE.
3:52:27PM RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE DOOR FROM THE PARKING GARAGE.
3:52:30PM AND THIS IS THE ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING.
3:52:33PM IT'S RIGHT THERE.
3:52:33PM SO THERE IS ENOUGH PARKING PROVIDED.
3:52:35PM IT'S REQUIRED UNDER THE SITE PLAN.
3:52:37PM OF COURSE WE WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
3:52:39PM IT'S IN EVERYONE'S INTEREST FOR THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
3:52:42PM AND I'M HAPPY TO.
3:52:44PM Answer: QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT.
3:52:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:52:48PM CAN YOU LEAVE THAT THERE, PLEASE, SIR?
3:52:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
3:52:55PM I ONLY HAVE AN 8th GRADE EDUCATION SO I AM TRYING TO
3:52:58PM FIGURE THIS OUT, YOU KNOW.
3:52:59PM MS. MANDELL CAME UP WITH HER ARGUMENT, AND I THINK IT'S A
3:53:07PM PLAY ON WORDS TO SAY, BUT I SEE WHERE YOU INDICATED 28 PLUS
3:53:12PM 8 IS 8.
3:53:15PM I THINK THE PETITIONER, THE OBJECTIONER WAS THINKING THAT
3:53:19PM THERE'S SPACE FOR THEM AT A CERTAIN LOCATION.
3:53:23PM YOU CONTEND THAT YOU ARE SAYING YOU ARE GIVING THEM 28, NO
3:53:26PM MATTER WHERE THE LOCATION IS, YOU ARE SAYING THE LOCATION IS
3:53:29PM CLOSE ENOUGH TO ENTER THEIR BUSINESS, CORRECT?
3:53:32PM >>DAVID SINGER: YES.
3:53:33PM YES.
3:53:33PM SO WHEN YOU REZONE THE SITE, OF COURSE THE ENTIRE SITE, AND
3:53:37PM LET ME PUT THIS UP HERE.
3:53:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT SING SUNG
3:53:43PM LISTEN, THIS IS ALL NUANCE STUFF.
3:53:48PM THIS IS PARKING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING NOW.
3:53:50PM THIS IS THE ALLEY.
3:53:54PM THE SIDE WHERE THEY ARE PARKING NOW.
3:53:56PM AND REPLACING THIS IS GOING TO BE THE GARAGE.
3:54:00PM THIS GOES A WAY UNDER THE REZONE.
3:54:03PM THE PARKING SPACES WILL BE IN THE DRIVE THAT'S LITERALLY
3:54:09PM ADJACENT.
3:54:09PM I COULDN'T TELL YOU AND THE APPLICANT COULDN'T TELL YOU
3:54:12PM RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T LAID OUT THE ENTIRE GARAGE
3:54:15PM EXACTLY WHERE THE PARKING SPACES ARE GOING TO BE BUT THEY DO
3:54:18PM RETAIL LEASE AS CROSS THE COUNTRY.
3:54:20PM AND SO THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE THAT ANYONE IS SUGGESTING
3:54:26PM THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET SPACE THAT IS GOING TO BE
3:54:29PM COMPLETELY INCONVENIENT TO THEM.
3:54:31PM NO ONE IS SUGGESTING THAT.
3:54:33PM MS. MANDELL CAN'T TELL YOU THAT.
3:54:34PM NO ONE CAN TELL YOU THAT.
3:54:36PM WHAT WE CAN TELL YOU IS THERE'S GOING TO BE PARKING
3:54:38PM AVAILABLE FOR THEM AND WE WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
3:54:41PM AND WE WANT THEM TO HAVE THAT PARKING ON THE SITE.
3:54:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY THEN.
3:54:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
3:54:48PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
3:54:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PUT YOUR SHEET BACK DOWN THERE, IF YOU
3:54:57PM DON'T MIND.
3:54:58PM NOT THAT I AM GOING TO GIVE TESTIMONY.
3:55:00PM BUT IS THERE ANOTHER RETAIL NEXT TO JERSEY MIKE'S?
3:55:04PM >> THERE'S A NAIL SALON.
3:55:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND COMBINED, THEY ARE ENTITLED TO 28
3:55:09PM PARKING SPACES?
3:55:11PM >>DAVID SINGER: YES.
3:55:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE SECTION THAT IS EXISTING IN FRONT, HOW
3:55:18PM MANY SPACES ARE THERE NOW?
3:55:21PM SING SUNG I BELIEVE THERE'S 11.
3:55:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 11.
3:55:25PM SO THAT AND 28, YOU SAY, THAT WOULD BE 18 MORE SPACES, IF
3:55:33PM SOMEONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE BOUND BY THAT ENTITLEMENT.
3:55:36PM >>DAVID SINGER: AND IT WAS ALL INCORPORATED INTO THE
3:55:39PM CALCULATION THAT WE SUBMITTED AND TALKED ABOUT.
3:55:41PM >> CAN YOU BRING BACK UP THE iPad THAT HAS THE PROPOSED
3:55:44PM BUILDING?
3:55:45PM I KNOW THIS IS PROPOSED AND HYPOTHETICAL AND IT'S NOT
3:55:48PM DEFINITE.
3:55:49PM >>DAVID SINGER: YES.
3:55:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THIS WERE, WOULD YOUR
3:55:55PM COMPANY BE KIND ENOUGH TO PUT THAT FIRST ROW CLOSEST TO THE
3:55:59PM DOOR?
3:56:03PM AGAIN THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL.
3:56:04PM >>DAVID SINGER: I MEAN, HYPOTHETICALLY, OF COURSE.
3:56:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE'S NO KIND OF AGREEMENT THAT YOU CAN
3:56:14PM GIVE THEM THAT THESE ARE THE PARKING SPOTS?
3:56:21PM >>DAVID SINGER: LET ME ANSWER IT THIS WAY.
3:56:22PM I THINK THAT PEOPLE, WHEN THEY PARK, WANT TO BE AS CLOSE TO
3:56:27PM THEIR HOME AS THEY CAN.
3:56:29PM FOR THE RESIDENTS.
3:56:31PM AND IF YOU LOOK AT THESE SPACES THAT ARE HERE, THESE ARE THE
3:56:36PM FARTHEST AWAY FROM PEOPLE'S HOLMES HOMES.
3:56:39PM THEY ARE THE CLOSEST TO THE RETAIL.
3:56:40PM SO WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO ACTUALLY COMMIT TO YOU TODAY THAT
3:56:45PM THOSE ARE GOING TO BE RETAIL SPOTS, I THINK COMMON SENSE AND
3:56:49PM SENSIBILITY WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD DO EVERYTHING IN OUR
3:56:52PM POWER TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE RETAIL SPOTS.
3:56:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OF COURSE, FOR THE RECORD, YOU CANNOT AND
3:57:03PM THE CITY COUNCIL CANNOT BIND YOU TO THAT AGREEMENT.
3:57:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT'S ALL HYPOTHETICAL.
3:57:10PM >> I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
3:57:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND AS LONG AS THEY UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER.
3:57:14PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
3:57:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND WHICH MR. SINGER WAS LEADING ME TO MY
3:57:20PM QUESTION WHICH I ASKED AT THE WRONG TIME, THIS WHOLE LAYOUT
3:57:24PM IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL.
3:57:27PM AND CANNOT GUARANTEE THIS WHOLE LAYOUT IS GOING TO BE HERE.
3:57:30PM >>DAVID SINGER: WELL, WHEN YOU SUBMIT A SITE PLAN FOR A PD
3:57:33PM REVIEW, WE ARE LOCKED INTO THAT SITE PLAN.
3:57:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SIZE AND HEIGHT.
3:57:39PM >>DAVID SINGER: AND LAYOUT.
3:57:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND LAYOUT.
3:57:43PM BUT YOU CAN'T SEE THE PARKING SPACES IN THERE EITHER.
3:57:46PM >>DAVID SINGER: I CAN SAY THE SPACES ARE GOING TO BE THERE.
3:57:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M TRYING TO GET SOMEWHERE WITH THIS.
3:57:54PM I AM HAVING NO LUCK AT ALL.
3:57:55PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
3:57:56PM >>DAVID SINGER: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
3:58:00PM >>JULIA MANDELL: IF I CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY A
3:58:06PM QUESTION ON RECORD.
3:58:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SINGER?
3:58:09PM >>DAVID SINGER: YES.
3:58:10PM >>JULIA MANDELL: SO I UNDERSTAND, JULIA MANDELL
3:58:13PM REPRESENTING JERSEY MIKE'S.
3:58:15PM SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY STAFF, MR. SINGER, ARE SAYING,
3:58:21PM IS THAT WHEN YOU APPORTION THE PARKING, I WOULD AGREE THAT'S
3:58:26PM A SECONDARY ISSUE.
3:58:28PM WHEN YOU APPORTION THE PARKING, THE OUTPARCEL WILL HAVE THE
3:58:33PM ALLOTMENT, NOT DESIGNATION BUT THE ALLOTMENT OF 28 SPACES,
3:58:38PM AND THEREFORE THE WAIVER THAT IS BEING REQUESTED FOR PARKING
3:58:42PM IS NOT GOING TOWARD THAT OUTPARCEL, AND THE NUMBERS FOR THE
3:58:45PM OUTPARCEL IS GOING WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE SITE. IF THAT
3:58:50PM IS WHAT MR. SINGER IS SAYING AND THE CITY AGREES THAT IS
3:58:53PM ACTUALLY WHAT'S ON THE SITE PLAN THEN I THINK AT LEAST THAT
3:58:56PM ISSUE HAS BEEN DISCUSSED -- I CAN'T SAY IT'S BEEN COMPLETELY
3:59:00PM RESOLVED WITH MY CLIENT BUT I THINK THAT'S -- IF THAT'S WHAT
3:59:04PM THE INTERPRETATION OF WHAT WE ALL AGREE ON THE RECORD IS
3:59:08PM WHAT HAS BEEN SAID, THEN WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
3:59:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN?
3:59:17PM INSTEAD OF COUNCILMAN, I WOULD LIKE MR. SINGER TO RESPOND SO
3:59:23PM HE HAS THE LAST WORD FOR REBUTTAL IF THERE'S ANY.
3:59:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HE WILL HAVE HIS TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
3:59:30PM >>DAVID SINGER: I THINK MS. MANDELL SAID THE FIRST PART
3:59:33PM EXACTLY RIGHT, THAT THE 28 SPACES ARE APPORTIONED AND
3:59:36PM ALLOTTED TO THE RETAIL AND RESTAURANT OUTPARCEL.
3:59:40PM THE SECOND PART IS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED IN THAT THOSE
3:59:45PM 28 SPACES, WHICH ARE ADDED TO THE TOTAL OF THE PD,
3:59:51PM ENCAPSULATE THE ENTIRETY OF THE PARKING ON-SITE.
3:59:55PM SO THERE'S 343 SPARKLING SPACES ON-SITE.
3:59:59PM 28 OF THEM GO TO RETAIL RESTAURANT.
4:00:01PM BUT IT'S NOT 343 PLUS 28.
4:00:04PM IT'S 343.
4:00:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. MANDELL, THANK YOU.
4:00:09PM YOU GOT THERE QUICKER THAN I DID.
4:00:13PM THANK YOU.
4:00:14PM HOW MANY STORIES?
4:00:17PM THREE?
4:00:18PM >>DAVID SINGER: THREE.
4:00:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAS THAT IT?
4:00:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAS THAT YOUR REBUTTAL?
4:00:27PM ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR REBUTTAL?
4:00:29PM >>DAVID SINGER: WITH THAT, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
4:00:31PM YOUR APPROVAL.
4:00:32PM THANK YOU.
4:00:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:00:35PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:00:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:00:40PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:00:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER REZ 22-71, ORDINANCE BEING
4:00:47PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
4:00:50PM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2110 WEST NORTH
4:00:53PM A STREET, 105 AND 107 NORTH WESTLAND AVENUE, 106, 110 AND
4:01:00PM 112 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE, 10 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE NUMBER 1 AND
4:01:05PM NUMBER 2, AND 2101, 2117 AND 2121 BEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD IN
4:01:13PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
4:01:16PM IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING CLASSIFICATION CG COMMERCIAL
4:01:20PM GENERAL AND RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD, PLANNED
4:01:26PM DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, RETAIL SALES,
4:01:30PM RESTAURANT, PERSONAL SERVICES, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
4:01:33PM >> SECOND.
4:01:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:01:36PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:01:38PM PLEASE VOTE AND RECORD.
4:01:39PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND MIRANDA VOTING
4:01:45PM NO.
4:01:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
4:01:48PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 82.
4:01:49PM FILE REZ 22-78.
4:01:53PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: 22-72.
4:01:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME.
4:02:00PM 22-72.
4:02:02PM DYSLEXIA.
4:02:03PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
4:02:04PM THIS CASE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT THE
4:02:07PM LOCATION 2907 WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD AND FOLIO NUMBER
4:02:12PM 127083.0000 PROPOSED REZONING FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO
4:02:19PM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL,
4:02:28PM RETAIL SALES RESTAURANT BAR LOUNGE AND RESIDENTIAL
4:02:32PM MULTIFAMILY.
4:02:35PM SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
4:02:38PM >> FOR THE RECORD, ABBYE, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
4:02:46PM I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND REQUEST YOUR
4:02:49PM APPROVAL.
4:02:50PM THANK YOU.
4:02:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
4:02:54PM SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO
4:02:58PM SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 82?
4:03:03PM SEEING NONE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE.
4:03:12PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY
4:03:15PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:03:16PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:03:20PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:03:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND
4:03:24PM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
4:03:26PM GENERAL VICINITY OF THE 2907 WEST BECAME TO BAY BOULEVARD
4:03:30PM AND FOLIO NUMBER 127083.0000 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
4:03:36PM AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
4:03:39PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
4:03:42PM DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, RETAIL SALES,
4:03:45PM RESTAURANT, BAR LOUNGE, AND RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY,
4:03:48PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
4:03:48PM >> SECOND.
4:03:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:03:51PM PLACE YOUR VOTE AND RECORD.
4:03:53PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO ABSENT AT VOTE.
4:04:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
4:04:15PM GENERAL TEND NUMBER 83, FILE VAC 22-12.
4:04:24PM SORRY, IT WAS WITHDRAWN.
4:04:27PM MOTION TO WITHDRAW AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 83.
4:04:33PM BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:04:35PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:04:36PM THANK YOU.
4:04:42PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 84.
4:04:44PM >>RON WIGGINTON: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
4:04:46PM MR. SHELBY HAS REQUESTED THAT I PASS OUT THE -- [OFF
4:04:53PM MICROPHONE] AND GIVE CREDIT TO THE AUTHOR WHO JUST LEFT,
4:04:59PM JULIA MANDELL, TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE MAIN POINTS OF THAT
4:05:03PM MEMO.
4:05:03PM I WILL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO PASS IT OUT FIRST.
4:05:28PM THANK YOU.
4:05:29PM SO AGAIN TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE MAIN POINTS OF THE MEMO,
4:05:32PM FIRST, THE APPLICANT HAS THE BURDEN OF ESTABLISHING THAT THE
4:05:36PM VACATING REQUEST SERVES A PUBLIC PURPOSE, AND SERVES IN THE
4:05:40PM BEST INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC.
4:05:41PM NEXT, CITY COUNCIL HAS BROAD DISCRETION IN MAKING THE
4:05:44PM DECISION TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THE VACATING REQUEST, AND
4:05:48PM THE SAME WILL NOT BE DISTURBED EXCEPT IN THE CASE OF CLEAR
4:05:52PM ABUSE OF DISCRETION OR UNLESS THERE IS AN INVASION OF
4:05:55PM PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.
4:05:56PM AND FINALLY SOME OF THE FACTORS TO CONSIDER DURING YOUR
4:06:00PM DELIBERATIONS INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO WILL THE
4:06:03PM VACATING ALLEVIATE OR RELIEF THE PUBLIC FROM THE COST OF
4:06:06PM MAINTAINING THE SUBJECT ALLEYWAY, WILL THE VACATING
4:06:09PM ALLEVIATE A PUBLIC NUISANCE SUCH AS DUMPING OR CURTAIL
4:06:13PM CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, WILL IT FOSTER REDEVELOPMENT OF THE
4:06:17PM ABUTTING PROPERTIES, WILL ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS ACCESS TO
4:06:20PM THE PROPERTY BE COMPLETELY CUT OFF OR SUBSTANTIALLY
4:06:23PM DIMINISHED AS A RESULT OF THE VAPOR INDICATING?
4:06:25PM NOW, THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS WERE NOT MENTIONED OR DISCUSSED
4:06:28PM IN THE MEMO, BUT SINCE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION
4:06:30PM LATELY ABOUT MISNOTICE I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE
4:06:33PM WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR VACATING.
4:06:35PM FIRST, THERE IS THE POSTED NOTICE WHICH IS THE SAME AS FOR
4:06:39PM ALL LAND USE DECISIONS.
4:06:41PM THAT INCLUDES POSTING A SIGN AT EITHER END OF THE ALLEYWAY,
4:06:45PM THAT SIGN MUST BE PLACED WITHIN -- EXCUSE ME, NO LATER THAN
4:06:51PM 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THE HEARING AND NO LATER THAN 60 DAYS PRIOR
4:06:55PM TO THE HEARING AND MUST BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.
4:06:58PM NEXT IS A GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE.
4:07:00PM NOW, THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE ONLY REQUIRES NOTICE TO
4:07:03PM PARTICIPATING ORGANIZATIONS WHICH IS THE HOA NEIGHBORHOOD
4:07:06PM AND CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS.
4:07:08PM IT DOES NOT INCLUDE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE TO THE
4:07:11PM PARTICIPATING NEIGHBORS WHICH THAT'S A 250 FAT LAID USE THAT
4:07:14PM YOU PROBABLY HEARD ABOUT BEFORE.
4:07:17PM THAT'S THE SECOND NOTICE THAT'S REQUIRED.
4:07:19PM AND THE THIRD NOTICE IS THE PROPERTY OWNER NOTICE, WHICH
4:07:23PM INCLUDES ALL ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE ABUTTING THE
4:07:26PM SUBJECT ALLEYWAY.
4:07:28PM AND THIS IS IN LIEU OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THE
4:07:32PM PARTICIPATING NEIGHBORS.
4:07:33PM SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTION OTHER THAN I JUST MENTIONED I
4:07:38PM WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO MR. SAMMONS TO PROVIDE HIS
4:07:41PM PRESENTATION.
4:07:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS?
4:07:43PM >>ROSS SAMMONS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
4:07:53PM PRESENTING FILE NUMBER VAC 20-14.
4:07:58PM THE APPLICANT IS TAMPA BAY DEVELOPERS LLC, REPRESENTED NAME
4:08:03PM IS STEVEN LANEY, THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 2409 WEST STROUD
4:08:11PM AVENUE.
4:08:14PM BOTH VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE LINE NORTH OF STROUD
4:08:19PM AVENUE, SOUTH OF CHICAGO AVENUE, EAST OF CAROLINA AVENUE AND
4:08:22PM WEST OF MOODY AVENUE.
4:08:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BRING UP THE SCREEN.
4:08:34PM >> THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA ON MARCH
4:08:39PM 16, 2022.
4:08:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MONITORS, PLEASE?
4:08:43PM THANK YOU.
4:08:46PM >> THE APPLICANT OWNS THE PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF THE
4:08:50PM ALLEY THAT IS TO BE VACATED.
4:08:53PM APPLICANT'S REASON IS TO CLEAN UP THE ALLEY.
4:08:57PM THIS WAS CREATED BY A SUBDIVISION PLAT.
4:08:59PM THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 7300 SQUARE FEET.
4:09:11PM HERE IS AN AERIAL SHOWING THE PROPERTY IN RED, AND THE
4:09:17PM PROPOSED VACATING IN YELLOW.
4:09:19PM HERE IS CAROLINA AVENUE.
4:09:22PM HERE, AND SOUTH STROUD AVENUE.
4:09:27PM HEAR IS A CITY OF TAMPA ATLAS MAP SHOWING THE AREA, AGAIN IN
4:09:39PM RED HERE.
4:09:41PM THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.
4:09:43PM AND PREVIOUS VACATING IN THE VICINITY.
4:09:49PM THAT'S HERE.
4:09:55PM WE HAVE AN IMAGE OF CB SHAW'S SUBDIVISION PLAT.
4:10:00PM THIS IS A PLAT THAT DID DEDICATE THIS ALLEY, THE ORIGINATING
4:10:05PM ALLEY.
4:10:06PM IN BLOCK 2 HERE.
4:10:08PM NOW CAROLINA AVENUE OVER AND DOWN TO NOW STROUD AVENUE.
4:10:24PM HERE IS CHICAGO AVENUE SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH OF THE
4:10:27PM ALLEY, HERE IS THE EXISTING ALLEY, AND THIS IS THE TOWN HOME
4:10:33PM SUBDIVISION, HERE IS CHICAGO AVENUE.
4:10:42PM THIS IS THE IMAGE OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.
4:10:46PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH FROM STROUD AVENUE.
4:10:55PM THIS IS THE MOST EASTERN SECTION OF THE ALLEY TO BE VACATED.
4:11:01PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH FROM STROUD AVENUE, THE NORTH AND
4:11:05PM SOUTH SECTIONS.
4:11:12PM AND THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST FROM CAROLINA AVENUE, IN
4:11:18PM THIS GENERAL VICINITY HERE.
4:11:24PM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST, EASEMENT
4:11:27PM RESERVATIONS ARE NEEDED FOR WASTEWATER, STORMWATER, TECO,
4:11:31PM FRONTIER, AND SPECTRUM.
4:11:32PM NATURAL RESOURCES MUST COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27 IN REGARD TO
4:11:37PM TREE PRESERVATION, AND SITE DESIGN FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS
4:11:39PM PLACED ADJACENT TO TREES IN A VACATED AREA.
4:11:42PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE
4:11:45PM ANY QUESTIONS.
4:11:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
4:11:50PM THANK YOU.
4:11:50PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU FOR HEARING THIS PETITION LATE
4:12:09PM IN THE DAY.
4:12:10PM I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE HERE.
4:12:15PM LET MET GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF --
4:12:17PM >> MR. MICHELINI, WE ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE BUT FOR THE
4:12:20PM RECORD.
4:12:21PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING PETITIONER
4:12:23PM AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
4:12:32PM IS THAT SHOWING UP WELL?
4:12:35PM AS THE CITY STAFF HAS POINTED OUT, THIS IS A RIGHT ANGLE
4:12:40PM ALLEYWAY THAT RUNS BEHIND THESE HOMES ON STROUD AND BEHIND
4:12:45PM THE TOWNHOUSES IN THE CHICAGO SUBDIVISION.
4:12:52PM THIS IS A DETAIL OF THAT AREA ON THE EAST SIDE.
4:13:04PM AND A LITTLE BETTER VIEW SHOWING YOU HOW IT EXTEND FURTHER
4:13:08PM TO THE WEST.
4:13:17PM ROSS HAS ALREADY SHOWED YOU THAT THE ACCESSES TO THE ALLEY
4:13:21PM IS OBSTRUCTED.
4:13:22PM THIS IS ON THE EAST SIDE WHERE THERE'S NO ACCESS.
4:13:26PM THIS IS ON THE WEST SIDE WHERE THERE'S NO ACCESS.
4:13:36PM THIS IS ON THE EAST SIDE.
4:13:39PM EVERYTHING YOU SEE THERE IN PINK IS AN OBSTRUCTION BUILT IN
4:13:43PM THE ALLEY.
4:13:48PM THIS IS THE MIDDLE SECTION SHOWING PART OF THE EAST, PART OF
4:13:53PM THE MIDDLE, WHERE SOMETHING HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED IN THAT
4:13:56PM ALLEY.
4:13:58PM THIS IS THE DETAIL OF THE MIDDLE SECTION IN PINK.
4:14:03PM SHOWING YOU THE OBSTRUCTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED, AND
4:14:09PM MORE HERE.
4:14:10PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT, AND I HAVE
4:14:13PM READ THE LETTER OF CONCERN FROM THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH,
4:14:20PM AND I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS SHEET.
4:14:27PM AND THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS ARE GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND DESIGN
4:14:30PM AND ZONING, AND THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE,
4:14:35PM GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND DESIGN, TRANSPORTATION, AND SOLID
4:14:38PM WASTE, NONE OF WHICH HAD ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS REGARDING
4:14:44PM VACATING THIS PORTION OF THIS ALLEY.
4:14:50PM THE BIGGEST ISSUE -- AND I HAVE TALKED TO SOME OF THE
4:14:53PM NEIGHBORS BRIEFLY BEFORE THE HEARING STARTED -- AND IT SEEMS
4:14:57PM TO ME THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED REGARDING THE VACATING, WHAT
4:15:00PM WOULD HAPPEN POST VACATING, AND GENERALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS
4:15:05PM THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS ON EITHER SIDE ARE ENTITLED TO
4:15:09PM ONE HALF OF THE VACATED PORTION.
4:15:11PM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ALSO HAPPEN IN THIS AREA ARE IT'S
4:15:16PM COMPLETELY DENSE.
4:15:19PM I WILL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF THAT.
4:15:41PM THE HOMEOWNERS IN THE TOWNHOUSES HAVE BASICALLY A 6-FOOT
4:15:49PM HIGH VINYL FENCE WITH APPROXIMATELY A TWO-FOOT MASONRY WALL
4:15:56PM THAT IT SITS ON TOP OF.
4:15:58PM THIS IS THE VIEW FROM THE CAROLINA, AS I SAID, WEST LOOKING
4:16:03PM EAST.
4:16:03PM THERE'S NO ACCESS WHATSOEVER.
4:16:06PM THIS ALLEY EFFECTIVELY HAS BEEN COMPLETELY OBLITERATED IN
4:16:11PM TERMS OF USAGE.
4:16:13PM THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET TO THAT IS EITHER THROUGH THE REAR
4:16:17PM YARD OF THE ABUTTING TOWNHOUSES ON THE NORTH SIDE, OR THE
4:16:23PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOME ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
4:16:28PM ONE THING THAT I GUESS THE CONCERNS ARE, IF THIS PROPERTY --
4:16:33PM AND I'M SORRY, THE ALLEY IS NOT VACATED, THEN ALL OF THOSE
4:16:38PM AREAS THAT I SHOWED YOU IN PINK ARE IN VIOLATION, EVERY ONE
4:16:42PM OF THEM.
4:16:45PM IN THE PETITION, THERE IS A REQUEST FROM THE CITY TO RESERVE
4:16:49PM EASEMENTS OVER THE ENTIRE LENGTH AND WIDTH OF THE ALLEY,
4:16:53PM WHICH MEANS YOU CANNOT BUILD ON IT.
4:16:57PM IT ESSENTIALLY BECOMES A GREEN SPACE.
4:17:00PM IN ADDITION TO THAT, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ALLEY, IS A
4:17:03PM PERMANENT 20-FOOT STORMWATER EASEMENT.
4:17:06PM THAT ALSO CAN'T BE BUILT ON.
4:17:09PM SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE, I THINK I HAVE ADDRESSED ALL OF THE
4:17:14PM CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE RAISED, REGARDING THAT DMS, NEVER
4:17:21PM WANT TO USE THE ALLEY.
4:17:22PM THEY ARE NOT -- THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO PAVE THAT AND
4:17:26PM REOPEN THE ALLEY.
4:17:27PM THEY WOULD BE LOCKED UP IN LITIGATION FOR YEARS TRYING TO
4:17:29PM STRAIGHTEN OUT AND HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT OBSTRUCTIONS
4:17:32PM REMOVED.
4:17:33PM I COUNTED MORE THAN 15 DIFFERENT OBSTRUCTIONS FROM DIFFERENT
4:17:39PM PROPERTIES.
4:17:39PM IT'S NOT WIDE ENOUGH.
4:17:40PM IT MAKES A 90-DEGREE TURN.
4:17:43PM IT'S OBSTRUCTED.
4:17:46PM BASICALLY, IT'S UNUSED.
4:17:48PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I CAN TELL YOU EXCEPT THAT IT'S IN
4:17:51PM THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY, THE BEST INTEREST OF PUBLIC
4:17:56PM PURPOSE, TO VACATE THIS.
4:17:58PM IT'S NOT BEEN MAINTAINED.
4:18:01PM AND IT WOULD SERVE A PUBLIC PURPOSE TO VACATE THIS AND
4:18:06PM RETURN IT.
4:18:07PM AND I THINK MOST IF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS REMEMBER, AN ALLEY
4:18:12PM IS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAT FOR THE ADJACENT
4:18:14PM PROPERTY OWNERS.
4:18:15PM IT'S CONTROLLED AND OWNED UNDERLYING IN FEE BY THOSE
4:18:20PM INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS.
4:18:21PM IT'S HELD IN TRUST BY THE CITY.
4:18:24PM AND THAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO RELEASE THE "IN TRUST" PORTION
4:18:29PM AND RETURN IT BACK TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THEIR CONTROL.
4:18:32PM AGAIN, NOTHING CAN BE BUILT IN THERE WITH THOSE EASEMENTS.
4:18:37PM AND THE EASEMENTS HAVE BEEN RESERVED FOR UTILITIES INCLUDING
4:18:39PM TECO AND PEOPLE'S GAS, AND TELEPHONE, VERIZON, WHATEVER,
4:18:47PM CABLE TV.
4:18:48PM I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
4:18:50PM I THINK IT'S THE GENERAL INTENT OF THE CODE IS THAT WHEN AN
4:18:54PM ALLEY IS NOT BEING USED FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSE, AND IT
4:18:58PM CANNOT BE USED NOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSE, THEN IT SHOULD BE
4:19:01PM RETURNED TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AS WAS PROVIDED FOR
4:19:05PM IN THE CODE.
4:19:07PM I THINK WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT WITH THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT
4:19:10PM I HAVE SHOWN YOU.
4:19:10PM THE SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA SURVEY CREW,
4:19:15PM NOT AS AN INDEPENDENT SURVEY CREW, NOT ONE COMMISSIONED BY
4:19:18PM US ON THE ADJACENT -- OR THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
4:19:23PM SO I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
4:19:25PM AND I'M SURE THAT SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS WOULD LIKE TO
4:19:28PM SPEAK ABOUT IT.
4:19:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:19:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU PLEASE PUT UP THE PINK MAP AGAIN?
4:19:37PM >> ALL THREE OF THEM?
4:19:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST THE ONE THAT SHOWS THE WHOLE ALLEY.
4:19:42PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THIS IS THE WESTERN PORTION.
4:20:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
4:20:04PM BECAUSE JUST LOOKING AT THIS, IF I AM CORRECT, PRETTY MUCH
4:20:07PM EVERYBODY ON THE SOUTH SIDE HAS ENCROACHED INTO THE ENTIRE
4:20:11PM ALLEY, RIGHT?
4:20:12PM THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
4:20:13PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THAT'S THE EAST SIDE.
4:20:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, NO, NO, I AM LOOKING NORTH WHERE ALL
4:20:22PM THOSE PINK BOXES ARE.
4:20:24PM IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS, THOSE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO MOVE
4:20:27PM STUFF ANYWAY BECAUSE THE FOLKS TO THE NORTH WOULD HAVE THAT
4:20:30PM SPACE, CORRECT?
4:20:33PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THEY WOULD BE ENTITLED TO HALF THE
4:20:35PM SPACE, CORRECT.
4:20:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THEY ARE MOVING IT EITHER WAY.
4:20:41PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I AM NOT SURE WHO BUILT THESE DIFFERENT
4:20:43PM ENCROACHMENTS.
4:20:44PM I MEAN, I CAN'T TELL YOU UNDER OATH THAT THAT BELONGS TO THE
4:20:48PM PEOPLE -- BUT YES, SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN HERE, AND
4:20:53PM REGARDING THESE ENCROACHMENTS.
4:20:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MEAN, EITHER WAY IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE
4:20:57PM MOVED, IF WE APPROVE IT, IT WILL HAVE TO BE MOVED BECAUSE
4:21:01PM THEY WILL HAVE TO MOVE IT OFF PEOPLE'S PROPERTY, AND IF WE
4:21:04PM DENY IT --
4:21:06PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: IF YOU DENY IT, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE
4:21:09PM CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
4:21:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S A -- SO ALSO THE SAME THING ON THE
4:21:15PM EAST SIDE.
4:21:16PM SO, OKAY, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.
4:21:20PM THANK YOU.
4:21:20PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY COMPLICATED
4:21:23PM UNRAVELING.
4:21:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLICATED EITHER WAY
4:21:27PM IS MY POINT.
4:21:29PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: EITHER WAY.
4:21:30PM ONE WAY IS GOING TO BE MORE LITIGIOUS THAN THE OTHER.
4:21:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
4:21:37PM I HAVE A QUESTION.
4:21:43PM IF WE DO APPROVE THIS AND IT GETS DIVIDED AMONGST THE
4:21:47PM HOMEOWNERS, IS THERE A LEGAL WAY THAT SOMEONE COULD BUY OUT
4:21:52PM THE OTHER HOMEOWNERS?
4:21:55PM >> CERTAINLY THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO ACQUIRE
4:21:58PM OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES.
4:21:59PM HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT GENERALLY SPEAKING
4:22:02PM WHEN YOU VACATE AN ALLEYWAY, THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS ON
4:22:06PM BOTH SIDES, IT GOES DOWN THE CENTER LINE, GETS DIVIDED, BOTH
4:22:09PM SIDE.
4:22:10PM HOWEVER, THERE IS CASE LAW THAT SAYS THAT IF A SUBDIVISION
4:22:13PM HAS THE ALLEYWAY TO ITSELF, AND THEN THE SUBDIVISION TO THE
4:22:18PM NORTH OF THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ALLEYWAY, THEN THERE
4:22:21PM COULD BE SOME ARGUMENT THAT ONE SIDE GETS IT AND NOT THE
4:22:24PM OTHER.
4:22:24PM BUT AGAIN IT'S NOT THE CITY'S POSITION TO GIVE -- TO ANY
4:22:31PM PRIVATE PROPERTY INTEREST.
4:22:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MICHELINI, DID THAT FINISH YOUR -- WE
4:22:37PM ARE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.
4:22:38PM ARE YOU FINISHED NOW?
4:22:41PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, AND I WILL RESERVE FOR REBUTTAL BUT
4:22:43PM I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL.
4:22:46PM >> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
4:22:48PM I AM NOT SEEING ANY. IS THERE ANYBODY IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS
4:22:51PM THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE SPEAK TO THIS?
4:22:52PM >> KIM HEIGHTS, 2410 WEST CHICAGO AVENUE.
4:22:59PM WE ARE ON THE NORTH END OF THAT APARTMENT THAT WE ARE
4:23:01PM TALKING ABOUT.
4:23:02PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY OF THIS INFORMATION.
4:23:05PM I HAVE EIGHT COPIES FOR YOU IF YOU LIKE.
4:23:08PM ONE IS MY OBJECTION.
4:23:09PM THE SECOND IS A BLOW BY BLOW ACCOUNT OF ALL OF THE
4:23:13PM CONVERSATIONS I HAVE HAD WITH ALL OF THE CITY OFFICIALS IN
4:23:16PM THE LAST TWO YEARS COMING JANUARY TRYING TO REINSTATE THAT
4:23:21PM ALLEYWAY.
4:23:21PM >> MA'AM, ARE WE GOING -- WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO BE RECEIVED
4:23:29PM AND FILED?
4:23:31PM >> I WOULD.
4:23:31PM YES, PLEASE.
4:23:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IN EVIDENCE.
4:23:34PM THANK YOU.
4:23:34PM >> TWO PAGES.
4:23:38PM ONE IS MY OBJECTION.
4:23:41PM THE SECOND ONE IS THE CONVERSATION.
4:23:43PM WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ARENA STATE THIS ALLEYWAY SINCE
4:23:46PM PRETTY MUCH FEBRUARY OF 2021.
4:23:49PM WE ARE COMING UP ON ALMOST TWO YEARS.
4:23:51PM YES, IT IS TRUE, THEY HAVE ALL BEEN ENCROACHING ON IT.
4:23:54PM WE WANT IT BACK BECAUSE WE ARE FEE SIMPLE TOWNHOMES BUT WE
4:23:58PM ARE JOINED.
4:23:59PM SO ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WAS MADE WAS THAT ACCESS WOULD
4:24:03PM CUT OFF COMPLETELY.
4:24:04PM MORE THAN HALF OF US WILL HAVE NO ACCESS TO THE BACK OF OUR
4:24:07PM PROPERTY.
4:24:07PM AND WHILE 12 FEET DOESN'T SEEM LIKE MUCH TO ANYBODY ELSE, WE
4:24:11PM HAVE GOT A DEAD TREE THAT CANNOT BE GROUND OUT.
4:24:14PM WE HAVE GOT PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BUILD, AND CONTRARY TO
4:24:17PM WHAT THE ATTORNEY EARLIER HAD SAID, THERE IS ROOM FOR AN
4:24:23PM AREA TO BE BUILT UP.
4:24:24PM I PERSONALLY HAVE DONE THAT.
4:24:25PM CITY GAVE ME A PERMIT.
4:24:27PM I HAVE A FOOTER.
4:24:28PM I ADDED 250 SQUARE FEET TO MY TOWNHOUSE, DID NOT ENCROACH ON
4:24:32PM ANY OF THE EASEMENT.
4:24:33PM BUT THERE ARE SECTIONS WHERE WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO GET TO
4:24:36PM THAT.
4:24:37PM THAT'S WHERE OUR UTILITIES ARE.
4:24:39PM THAT'S WHERE OUR ELECTRIC -- OUR AC UNITS ARE, AND AGAIN,
4:24:44PM THIS IS AS HE MENTIONED, THIS IS WHERE SPECTRUM AND ALL THAT
4:24:49PM IS.
4:24:49PM I SPOKE OF WITH ELLEN VIA WHO SENT ME TO KEVIN AMOS WHO SENT
4:24:55PM ME TO ERIC COTTON, SPOKE WITH LUCKY WADE.
4:24:59PM ALL THOSE SURVEYS THAT WERE DONE WERE DONE AT MY REQUEST.
4:25:02PM THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE CITY JUST DID.
4:25:03PM THIS IS NOT 20IERS GOING UP WITH LOTS OF LITIGATION.
4:25:07PM LITIGATION IS -- IF YOU VACATE THIS ALLEY AND THEY SAY YOU
4:25:12PM EACH GOT HALF, THE CITY WASHES ITS HAND OF THAT ALLEYWAY AND
4:25:16PM WE GET TO LITIGATION FOR OUR 6 FEET BECAUSE YOU AREN'T GOING
4:25:20PM TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.
4:25:21PM BUT WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR IT.
4:25:22PM SO THE LITIGATION COMES TO US.
4:25:24PM YOU HAVE THE RIGHT AS A CITY COUNCIL, I DON'T CARE IF
4:25:28PM STORMWATER AND EMS AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID, OH, WE DON'T
4:25:31PM CARE IF THIS THING GETS VACATED.
4:25:33PM YOU HAVE THE POWER.
4:25:34PM YOU HAVE THE RIGHT.
4:25:35PM AND I FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ALLOW US
4:25:38PM ACCESS TO THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY.
4:25:40PM I HAVE SENT LETTERS TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON BACK IN JANUARY,
4:25:47PM AND TWICE, AS DID OTHER PEOPLE WITHIN MY AREA.
4:25:54PM I AM GIVING YOU THE BACKGROUND OF WHY THIS HAS EVEN COME UP.
4:25:57PM AND I HAVE A NEIGHBOR WHO HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON
4:26:01PM IT.
4:26:01PM BUT WE TRULY NEED YOU TO DENY.
4:26:06PM THANK YOU.
4:26:08PM DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
4:26:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
4:26:09PM ANY QUESTIONS?
4:26:10PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:26:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, FOR THE ATTORNEY.
4:26:13PM >> I'M SORRY?
4:26:15PM FOR THE ATTORNEY?
4:26:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: RON OR ROSS, EITHER ONE.
4:26:24PM KIND OF CONFUSED HERE.
4:26:29PM THE OBJECTION IS THAT SHE SPENT -- THE COMMUNITY SENT
4:26:33PM SEVERAL LETTERS TO NOT CLOSE THIS ALLEY.
4:26:37PM SO I AM KIND OF CONFUSED.
4:26:38PM >> THE TERM REINSTATE.
4:26:46PM AND I CAN'T SPEAK ON -- I WILL HAVE RON SPEAK ON.
4:26:50PM THAT BUT FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN THE HISTORY OF IT, IT'S
4:26:52PM NEVER BEEN USED TECHNICALLY AS AN ALLEY, DOESN'T LOOK TO BE
4:26:57PM THAT WAY, AND THAT'S JUST THE FACTS THAT I HAVE.
4:27:01PM BUT TO REINSTATE IT, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CLEARING THAT
4:27:05PM BUILDING, TRANSPORTATION HAS TO BE INVOLVED WITH THAT.
4:27:09PM THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.
4:27:10PM FOR ANOTHER TIME.
4:27:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SHE SAYS THAT COMMUNITY THERE, YOU CAN
4:27:15PM SEE, WHATEVER THEY HAVE DONE THEY HAVE DONE, AND THEY ARE
4:27:17PM SAYING THEY ASKED THE CITY IN REFERENCE TO LEAVE IT THE WAY
4:27:23PM IT WAS VERSUS VACATING IT.
4:27:25PM I AM JUST WONDERING, WHY WE DIDN'T RESPOND TO THAT.
4:27:30PM THEN WE BUILT A ROAD IN THERE, GOT TO FERRET THAT OUT.
4:27:36PM >>ROSS SAMMONS: I CAN'T SPEAK AS FAR AS OTHER DEPARTMENTS,
4:27:39PM AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, TALKED WITH THEM OR WHO THEY ACTUALLY
4:27:44PM SPOKE WITH.
4:27:44PM BUT WHEN SOMEONE CONTACTED US TO VACATE IT, THAT'S WHY WE
4:27:49PM ARE HERE.
4:27:49PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M KIND OF CONFUSED BECAUSE THAT WHOLE
4:27:59PM COMMUNITY IS SAYING THEY WANT IT.
4:28:01PM >> RON WIGGINTON: AGAIN JUST LIKE ROSS, I AM NOT ABLE TO
4:28:06PM SPEAK WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WHAT COMMUNICATIONS THEY HAVE
4:28:08PM HAD.
4:28:08PM I AM NOT PRIVY TO THAT.
4:28:11PM SO UNFORTUNATELY I AM UNABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN THAT
4:28:14PM REGARD.
4:28:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
4:28:20PM ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
4:28:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY. I DO HAVE A
4:28:26PM QUESTION THAT MIGHT BE RELEVANT, SOMETHING THAT I AM LOOKING
4:28:28PM AT.
4:28:29PM WHEN WAS THIS APPLICATION FILED, DO YOU KNOW?
4:28:32PM >> IN MARCH.
4:28:39PM MARCH 16th OF 2022.
4:28:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, THANK YOU.
4:28:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
4:28:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY JUST POINTED OUT TO
4:28:52PM ME IN THIS CORRESPONDENCE WE JUST GOT, THAT I HEARD BACK
4:28:56PM FROM BILL CARLSON, MY INITIAL E-MAIL.
4:29:00PM I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL IN JANUARY.
4:29:02PM I THINK YOU SAID THEY FILED IN MARCH.
4:29:07PM BUT JUST TO READ IT OUT FOR THE RECORD, MY RESPONSE IS
4:29:11PM THANKS FOR REACHING OUT, THIS IS SOMETHING LIKELY HANDLED BY
4:29:13PM CODE ENFORCEMENT.
4:29:14PM AT THE TIME I WAS NOT AWARE OF ANY -- I AM COPYING MY
4:29:18PM LEGISLATIVE AIDE FOR YOU TO GET IN TOUCH WITH HER.
4:29:20PM CITY COUNCIL MOSTLY DEALS WITH LAND USE ISSUES, THE BUDGET,
4:29:24PM CREATING NEW LAW, CITY STAFF DON'T REPORT TO US BUT ARE
4:29:28PM USUALLY GOOD ABOUT FOLLOWING UP.
4:29:29PM THEN THE OTHER DAY THERE WAS A COPY IN THE QUASI BOX SAYING
4:29:34PM THANK YOU TO YOUR E-MAIL, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE NOT
4:29:37PM ALLOWED TO DISCUSS ABOUT LAND USE ISSUES BUT I WANT YOU TO
4:29:40PM KNOW THAT WE RECEIVED YOUR E-MAIL FOR THE RECORD.
4:29:43PM I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE THEY FILED.
4:29:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, JUST FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU
4:29:51PM FOR THAT DISCLOSURE.
4:29:52PM AND JUST A REMINDER OF COUNCIL FOR TODAY, FOR THIS HEARING
4:29:55PM OR ANY OTHER HEARINGS COMING FORTH, IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY
4:29:58PM EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS, ANY VERBAL COMMUNICATIONS, THAT
4:30:00PM BEFORE GOING FORWARD YOU DISCLOSE THE SUM AND SUBSTANCE OF
4:30:03PM THAT.
4:30:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED
4:30:07PM BECAUSE THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING, WE ARE REQUIRED TO
4:30:09PM DISCLOSE ANY CONVERSATIONS WE HAD WITH ANYONE.
4:30:12PM THE INITIAL E-MAIL THAT YOU AND I EXCHANGED DIDN'T TALK
4:30:16PM ABOUT ANY CONTENT.
4:30:17PM I JUST READ IT OUT.
4:30:19PM IT WAS BEFORE THEY FILED.
4:30:20PM BUT THE SECOND ONE I DID COPY THE QUASI BOX.
4:30:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CARLSON, BECAUSE YOU ARE
4:30:26PM SUBMITTING THIS NOW INTO EVIDENCE, IT'S PUBLIC RECORD.
4:30:29PM AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT --
4:30:33PM >> I ALSO --
4:30:35PM >> FOR TRANSPARENCY, I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE OF
4:30:38PM IT SINCE IT IS NOW PUBLIC RECORD.
4:30:40PM >> OKAY.
4:30:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BRIEFLY.
4:30:43PM >> BRIEFLY, IF YOU WILL NOTICE EVERYTHING I COPIED SAYS ON
4:30:46PM THE BOTTOM THIS IS PUBLIC RECORD BECAUSE IT'S ALL
4:30:48PM CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH THE VARIOUS LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT WE
4:30:50PM WERE ALSO NOTIFIED JULY OF LAST YEAR THAT NOTICES WERE
4:30:53PM GETTING READY TO BE SENT BY INSPECTOR SEGORA TO ALL THE
4:30:59PM PEOPLE WHO WERE ENCROACHING ON THE ALLEYWAY, AND THEY WERE
4:31:04PM REQUIRING THEM, THEY HAD GIVEN THEM A PERIOD OF TIME.
4:31:07PM NEVER HEARD ANYTHING AFTER THAT, AND THE CITY DECIDED THEY
4:31:10PM WERE GOING TO LEGALITY IT GO.
4:31:11PM AND I WAS NEVER TOLD WHY.
4:31:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
4:31:14PM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
4:31:15PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
4:31:18PM THANKS FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.
4:31:20PM BRIDGET LAKES, 2420 WEST CHICAGO AVENUE.
4:31:24PM I JUST WANT TO SHOW A FEW PICTURES JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE
4:31:28PM WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THESE DOCUMENTS IT REALLY DOESN'T
4:31:30PM TELL THE STORY --
4:31:31PM >> CAN YOU PULL IT DOWN OR ENLARGE IT, PLEASE?
4:31:37PM OR THE WAY YOU HAD IT.
4:31:39PM JUST PULL IT DOWN SO WE CAN SEE.
4:31:41PM THERE YOU GO.
4:31:41PM >> SORRY.
4:31:44PM THANK YOU.
4:31:44PM SO JUST TO SHARE WITH YOU, SO THE COMMENT ABOUT UNUSED ALLEY
4:31:49PM OR THOSE COMMENTS ABOUT OVERGROWN OR GRASS, AND THIS IS
4:31:52PM ACTUALLY A PICTURE OF THE ALLEY ON THE STROUD SIDE.
4:31:56PM AS YOU CAN SEE, 2409, THE PETITIONER OWNER AND DEVELOPER,
4:32:02PM THAT IS THE BACKYARD, WHICH IS THE ALLEY.
4:32:05PM SO THE PROBLEM POSED FOR US IS THAT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
4:32:08PM STREET HAS TAKEN OVER THE 12-FOOT ALLEY AND EXTENDED THEIR
4:32:11PM BACKYARD.
4:32:12PM AND I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER PICTURES THAT DEMONSTRATE THAT TO
4:32:15PM YOU.
4:32:15PM BUT THESE COMMENTS ABOUT IT'S UNUSED OR WE DON'T WANT ACCESS
4:32:19PM IS INCORRECT.
4:32:20PM AND WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO ROGAINE
4:32:23PM ACCESS, WHETHER WE WENT ABOUT IT CORRECTLY OR APPROPRIATELY
4:32:27PM IS TO BE DEBATED BUT WE WERE TRYING TO WORK THE WAY WE WERE
4:32:31PM GIVEN A PATH IN ORDER TO GET SOME KIND OF DUE PROCESS
4:32:34PM BECAUSE WE HAVE NO ACCESS TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
4:32:37PM SO IF YOU LOOK AT A COUPLE OF THE PHOTOS, WHAT YOU SEE IS
4:32:41PM THE ENCROACHMENT THAT YOU ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE MAP, YOU
4:32:43PM ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THIS PICTURE OF ENCROACHMENT IN THE
4:32:48PM ALLEY.
4:32:48PM AND THEN I THINK THE BIGGEST POINT THAT I WOULD MAKE HERE
4:32:52PM TODAY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU SEE IT, IMAGINE THIS PHOTO SHOWS
4:32:57PM MULTIPLE PHOTOS OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE HAD IN THEIR
4:33:00PM BACKYARD, AND AGAIN WE ARE FEE SIMPLE.
4:33:02PM THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO GET TO THE BACK SO YOU HAVE TO WALK
4:33:05PM THROUGH THE INSIDE OF YOUR TOWNHOUSE AND OUT THE FRONT DOOR
4:33:08PM AND VICE VERSA TO TAKE CONSTRUCTION OR YARD DEBRIS AND
4:33:12PM THINGS OF THAT NATURE OUT.
4:33:13PM AND AS WELL AS PEOPLE ARE BUILDING SUN ROOMS AND DIFFERENT
4:33:18PM THINGS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ENCROACH ON THE EASEMENT.
4:33:21PM PART OF THE REASON THAT WE HAVE A DISSENT IS BECAUSE STROUD
4:33:25PM HAD ALREADY TAKEN OVER THE ALLEY.
4:33:27PM SO LIKE I COULD PUT A GATE UP.
4:33:29PM I CAN SWAP OUT MY FENCE AND PUT A GATE UP BUT WHAT WOULD BE
4:33:32PM THE POINT IN PUTTING UP A GATE IF YOU ARE OPENING UP TO
4:33:35PM SOMEBODY'S YARD?
4:33:36PM I MEAN THAT REALLY WOULDN'T BODE WELL FOR PRIVACY.
4:33:40PM SO AGAIN JUST A PICTURE OF SOME OF THOSE ENCROACHMENTS.
4:33:44PM AND THEN IF YOU CAN SHOW THAT BOTTOM.
4:33:48PM WHAT YOU SEE HERE AGAIN IS SOME RENDERINGS, AND THE PICTURES
4:33:52PM IN THE MIDDLE SHOWING THE TOWN HOMES, WHAT THAT SHOWS YOU IS
4:33:55PM THAT WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE BACKYARD, AND THAT'S REALLY
4:33:58PM WHAT WE WANT.
4:33:59PM AND WE ARE JUST ASKING YOU, WHATEVER THAT SOLUTION IS, TO
4:34:02PM WORK WITH US, BECAUSE WE JUST NEED ACCESS TO THE BACK OF OUR
4:34:06PM PROPERTY.
4:34:08PM ANY QUESTIONS?
4:34:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS?
4:34:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS A QUESTION FOR LEGAL OR STAFF,
4:34:24PM WHILE THE LADY IS STILL STANDING THERE.
4:34:28PM BUT IF THE NEIGHBORS THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE APPLYING FOR A
4:34:31PM PROCESS TO REOPEN, COULD YOU TELL BECAUSE THAT PROBLEM SEES
4:34:35PM WAS, AND HOW DID THIS ONE SUPERSEDE THAT, AND CAN YOU JUST
4:34:39PM TELL US, KIND OF DUAL PROCESSES SOMEHOW.
4:34:43PM >>RON WIGGINTON: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
4:34:45PM AS FAR AS REOPENING THE ALLEYWAY, TO USE IT AS A
4:34:48PM TRANSPORTATION --
4:34:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK BASED ON WHAT THE TESTIMONY THEY
4:34:52PM JUST GAVE, THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO
4:34:55PM REOPEN THE ALLEY.
4:34:59PM WHAT WAS THE STATUS OF THAT PROCESS?
4:35:01PM DID IT START BEFORE OR AFTER?
4:35:02PM >>RON WIGGINTON: UNFORTUNATELY I WAS NOT PRIVY TO THOSE
4:35:05PM NEGOTIATIONS SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT EFFORTS WERE MADE TO
4:35:08PM REOPEN THE ALLEY OR WHAT REQUESTS HAVE BEEN MADE.
4:35:10PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT ACTION WAS TAKEN BY THE CITY. WHETHER IT
4:35:12PM BE THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT OR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
4:35:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
4:35:17PM >> I WONDER IF ANY OF THE PEOPLE THEY COMMUNICATED WITH ARE
4:35:20PM HERE.
4:35:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ARE YOU FINISHED?
4:35:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
4:35:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN CAN WE REQUEST TO HAVE STAFF COME DOWN,
4:35:30PM AND SOMEONE WHO WAS INVOLVED, SO WE COULD GET SOME ANSWERS?
4:35:36PM WE NEED THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED.
4:35:37PM >>RON WIGGINTON: CERTAINLY.
4:35:39PM IN THAT CASE, IF THAT WOULD BE THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, THEN
4:35:42PM I RECOMMEND YOU CONTINUE THE FIRST READING.
4:35:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COULD I ASK A QUESTION?
4:35:48PM IS IT ALL RIGHT?
4:35:50PM THANK YOU.
4:35:50PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:35:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN ALL OF MY YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE I
4:35:55PM NEVER HEARD OF THIS ONE IN MY LIFE.
4:35:57PM BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE TWO PARTIES -- ONE IS ALREADY CLOSED.
4:36:04PM BOTH SIDE.
4:36:05PM AND SOMEBODY IS USING SOME PARTS OF THE ALLEY.
4:36:07PM SOMEBODY WANTS THAT PART OF THE ALLEY.
4:36:09PM SO I THINK IT'S BETWEEN THE HOMEOWNERS, NOT US.
4:36:14PM >>RON WIGGINTON: I WOULD CONCUR.
4:36:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND SOMEBODY TAKE IT OVER.
4:36:23PM THAT'S FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO DECIDE.
4:36:25PM >>RON WIGGINTON: I'M SORRY, IT IS NOT CITY LAND.
4:36:27PM THE ONLY INTEREST THE CITY MAY HAVE IS AN EASEMENT.
4:36:30PM WHETHER IT BE RIGHT-OF-WAY, UTILITY, OR OTHERWISE.
4:36:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BY BEING AN EASEMENT NOBODY IS PAYING
4:36:40PM TAX ON AN EASEMENT.
4:36:42PM I'M NOT ARGUING WITH THE ATTORNEY.
4:36:44PM I WILL LOSE.
4:36:44PM >>RON WIGGINTON: AND I AM NOT A, TAKE EXPERT BUT I KNOW
4:36:49PM ENOUGH TO GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE.
4:36:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MA'AM, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION, PLEASE?
4:36:54PM CAN YOU PUT BACK THAT PHOTO THAT HAS THE BLUE LAWN CHAIRS
4:36:59PM THAT SOMEBODY HAS TAKEN OVER, THE EASEMENT?
4:37:04PM THANK YOU.
4:37:05PM THAT VINYL FENCE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THAT PICTURE, IS
4:37:09PM NO YOUR FENCE?
4:37:10PM >> WE OWN THE FENCE, AND WE INSTALLED IT, AND IT IS FLEXIBLE
4:37:16PM WHERE WE CAN ADD GATES, BUT WE CAN'T --
4:37:19PM >> YOU DON'T HAVE A GATE NOW?
4:37:20PM >> SOME OF US DO AND SOME OF US DON'T.
4:37:23PM AND THE REASON --
4:37:24PM >> WHEN WAS THAT FENCE PUT IN?
4:37:26PM >> I DON'T -- I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK.
4:37:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GIVE ME A ROUGH ESTIMATE.
4:37:32PM FIVE YEARS, TEN YEARS?
4:37:34PM >> 2015.
4:37:35PM IN THE PAST SEVEN YEARS.
4:37:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITHIN SEVEN YEARS.
4:37:39PM OKAY.
4:37:39PM AND YOU PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A FENCE -- IN SEVEN YEARS YOU
4:37:43PM HAVEN'T ACTUALLY HAD ACCESS TO THAT?
4:37:46PM >> YES, RIGHT.
4:37:47PM THAT'S CORRECT.
4:37:47PM SO WE HAVEN'T HAD ACCESS, AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THIS IS AN
4:37:52PM ALLEY.
4:37:55PM I NEGLECTED TO MENTION WE HAVE DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH THE
4:37:59PM NEIGHBORS BECAUSE WE OWN THAT ENTIRE BLOCK, BECAUSE WE HAVE
4:38:03PM A 21-UNIT --
4:38:05PM >> I'M SORRY, I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.
4:38:08PM I AM TRYING TO GET SOME QUICK ANSWERS.
4:38:11PM >> CERTAINLY.
4:38:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OF ALL THE CONDOMINIUM OWNERS, OR TOWN
4:38:15PM HOMEOWNERS, HOW MANY HAVE FENCES?
4:38:19PM >> IT'S A PERIMETER FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY.
4:38:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ON THIS ALLEYWAY, HOW MANY UNITS OWN
4:38:25PM FENCES?
4:38:26PM >> THERE WOULD BE 12.
4:38:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND HOW MANY HAVE GATES?
4:38:32PM >> ONE?
4:38:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, ONLY ONE PERSON
4:38:37PM HAS BEEN ABLE TO GET INTO THE ALLEYWAY --
4:38:41PM >> WELL, AND TECHNICALLY, THAT'S CORRECT, BUT TECHNICALLY,
4:38:46PM THE PARKING LOT OF A CONDO BUILDING TO GET THERE.
4:38:51PM SO TECHNICALLY FOR US TO GET TO OUR BACK, WHICH HAS
4:38:54PM HAPPENED, A CITY TREE IN THE BACK OF ONE OF THE PROPERTY,
4:38:59PM HAD TO GET PERMISSION FROM A STROUD HOME OWNER TO GET
4:39:02PM THROUGH THEIR YARD IN ORDER TO GET TO THE PROPERTY BUT IF IT
4:39:07PM WAS THERE THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO DO THAT.
4:39:09PM AND THEN THEY DID DAMAGE TO THEIR YARD.
4:39:11PM THE OWNER HAD TO PAY FOR IT AS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE
4:39:14PM THEY HAD TO GAIN ACCESS TO STROUD.
4:39:16PM THAT'S ALSO WHEN THE ISSUE, THE PARTICULAR PROPERTY THAT'S
4:39:19PM SHOWN, THERE WAS A DOG BITE BECAUSE A FOSTER DOG WAS IN THE
4:39:23PM BACK ON OUR SIDE, AND A CHILD REACHED UNDER THE FENCE, AND
4:39:27PM THE DOG BIT THEIR HAND.
4:39:30PM IF THE ALLEY WAS THERE, THAT WOULD HAVE CREATED SPACE FOR
4:39:33PM THAT INCIDENT NOT TO HAPPEN.
4:39:35PM SO WE ARE LIKE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT, RIGHT?
4:39:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
4:39:39PM DOES ANYBODY HAVE A GARAGE, IN THE TOWNHOMES, ANYBODY HAVE A
4:39:42PM GARAGE IN THE BACK?
4:39:43PM >> NOT IN THE BACK.
4:39:44PM ONLY IN THE FRONT.
4:39:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:39:45PM YES, MA'AM?
4:39:46PM >>CHAIRMAN: I SAID I NEED TO LEAVE HERE AT FIVE.
4:39:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR BEING ABLE TO BE AROUND.
4:39:57PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:40:03PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:40:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE NEED MORE INFORMATION.
4:40:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS JUST ASKING MY QUESTION.
4:40:16PM I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS.
4:40:17PM I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO GET MY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE WENT TO
4:40:21PM CONTINUE.
4:40:21PM WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, COUNCILMAN, YOU ALL HAVE ALL THIS
4:40:26PM UNLIMITED TIME TO TALK, BUT BEFORE WE GO MAKE A MOVEMENT I
4:40:30PM WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MY SAY.
4:40:33PM OKAY.
4:40:34PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE.
4:40:35PM PROCEED.
4:40:36PM >> DR. REESE GARDNER, 2403 WEST STROUD ONE OF THE STROUD
4:40:44PM MISFITS THAT THE CONDO IS REFERRING TO.
4:40:46PM WE ARE ON THE FAR EAST SIDE OF STROUD AND GLEN, WHICH IS --
4:40:59PM I AM NOT SURE HOW THIS WORKS.
4:41:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE IT CORRECT.
4:41:03PM >> OKAY.
4:41:04PM SO WE ARE, WHERE, HERE?
4:41:09PM ON STROUD.
4:41:10PM OKAY.
4:41:10PM WE ARE HERE.
4:41:12PM THIS IS THE SIDE HERE.
4:41:13PM FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S NOTHING BUILT HERE.
4:41:16PM THESE ARE BRICKS IN SAND THAT THE CITY GAVE US PERMISSION TO
4:41:19PM PUT.
4:41:20PM IT WAS A DIRT DRIVEWAY, SO BASICALLY WE DIDN'T CLAIM IT.
4:41:23PM WE JUST PUT THE BRICKS THERE AND WERE GIVEN PERMISSION TO DO
4:41:27PM SO.
4:41:28PM I HAVE BEEN IN THE HOUSE SINCE 1989, WHEN I BOUGHT THE
4:41:32PM HOUSE, THE FENCE WAS UP.
4:41:34PM IT WASN'T THE PLASTIC ONE.
4:41:36PM IT WAS A WOODEN FENCE WAS UP.
4:41:38PM OKAY.
4:41:39PM AND LONG STORY SHORT, WHEN THEY DID CHANGE THE FENCE, WITH
4:41:43PM REFERENCE TO THE DOG BITE, THE FENCE HAS A GAP THIS BIG.
4:41:48PM THE PEOPLE THAT PUT THE FENCE WITH RUSTED REBAR AND WIRES
4:41:52PM STICKING OUT, OKAY.
4:41:54PM SO ANYBODY PUTTING THEIR HAND THROUGH THE FENCE, NUMBER ONE,
4:41:59PM COULD HAVE GOTTEN CUT, OKAY, AND IF IT WAS AN ALLEY, ANYBODY
4:42:05PM COULD WALK BACK THERE, STICK THEIR HAND, AND THERE WOULD BE
4:42:08PM MORE PEOPLE STICKING THEIR HANDS UNDERNEATH THE FENCE, OKAY,
4:42:12PM THAT YOU COULD CHECK IT RUSTY REBAR WIRE AND BROKEN GLASS
4:42:17PM ALL ALONG THE BOTTOM.
4:42:19PM SO THE FENCE HAS BEEN THERE SINCE BEFORE 1989.
4:42:23PM THE ONLY WAY FOR THESE PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE BACK OF
4:42:26PM THEIR PROPERTY WOULD BE TO OPEN UP A SPACE, OKAY.
4:42:31PM IF THEY GIVE US SIX FEET AND WE GET SIX FEET, GUESS WHAT,
4:42:35PM THERE IS STILL NO SPACE.
4:42:36PM SO FOR THEM TO GET OUT THE BACK, WHICH THEY BOUGHT THE
4:42:40PM CONDOS, THERE WAS NO ACCESS TO THE BACK, OKAY.
4:42:44PM IT WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE AN ALLEY, AN OPEN ALLEY, WHERE YOU
4:42:49PM CLEAR CUT, TAKE DOWN GOOD 200-YEAR-OLD OAK TREES TO DO SO.
4:42:57PM I AM GOING TO MAKE A REFERENCE TO THIS BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL
4:43:00PM THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN THE CONDOS THAT ARE
4:43:04PM MISLEADING, MAKING MISLEADING STATEMENT.
4:43:07PM THERE WAS A LETTER DISCUSSING --
4:43:10PM [BELL SOUNDS]
4:43:10PM HOW DANGEROUS IT WAS NOT TO HAVE BACK ACCESS.
4:43:13PM THERE WAS A FIRE, THEY MENTIONED, WHERE A GENTLEMAN DIED
4:43:16PM BECAUSE THEY, QUOTE, COULDN'T HAVE ACCESS.
4:43:20PM THE FIRE WAS ON THE NORTH SIDE.
4:43:22PM IT DID NOT ABUT UP TO THE NEIGHBORS ON STROUD.
4:43:25PM IT WAS ON THE NORTH SIDE.
4:43:27PM AND IF YOU NOTICED, CHICAGO IS A BIG STREET FOR THEM TO GET
4:43:33PM DOWN.
4:43:34PM THE GENTLEMAN, A FRIEND OF MINE'S SISTER WAS STAYING WITH
4:43:38PM THIS GENTLEMAN.
4:43:39PM HE WAS DISABLED AND COULDN'T GET OUT OF THE CONDO. IT HAD
4:43:42PM NOTHING TO DO WITH ACCESS.
4:43:44PM THE FIRE TRUCKS WERE THERE INSTANTLY.
4:43:46PM I HEARD THEM AND I WENT AROUND AND I SAW WHAT HAPPENED.
4:43:51PM [BELL SOUNDS]
4:43:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
4:43:52PM >> THERE'S ONE OTHER THING.
4:43:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOUR TIME IS UP.
4:43:55PM WE ARE ALL ONLY ALLOWED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
4:43:58PM I THANK YOU.
4:44:01PM >> ALL RIGHT.
4:44:01PM I APPRECIATE YOU.
4:44:02PM I BELIEVE IT'S OUT OF SPITE THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING.
4:44:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
4:44:09PM THERE WAS A MOTION YOU WANTED TO MAKE?
4:44:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
4:44:12PM I MAKE A MOTION --
4:44:15PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M SORRY, I HAVE REBUTTAL TIME HERE.
4:44:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU WILL HAVE REBUTTAL TIME.
4:44:20PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I JUST THINK WE HAVE GONE FAR AFIELD OF
4:44:23PM THIS ISSUE.
4:44:25PM THEIR DESIGN ISSUES REGARDING THEIR TOWNHOUSES HAVE NOTHING
4:44:28PM TO DO WITH VACATING THE ALLEY.
4:44:31PM EVERY ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES IS DESIGNED EXACTLY THE SAME
4:44:34PM WAY.
4:44:35PM THEY ARE ALL FENCED OFF.
4:44:37PM AND I HAVE LOOKED AT THAT ALLEY.
4:44:38PM I HAVEN'T SEEN A SINGLE GATE THAT ACCESSES IT OFF OF THE
4:44:43PM CHICAGO SIDE, NONE.
4:44:45PM I MEAN, FITS THE COUNCIL'S WISHES TO CONTINUE THIS FOR
4:44:48PM ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION FOR MOBILITY, I SHOWED YOU THE
4:44:51PM CHECKLIST.
4:44:52PM THEY SIGNED OFF ON IT.
4:44:53PM THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE BEEN THE MONEY TO REINSTATE, TO
4:44:57PM REOPEN AND PAVE THIS ALLEY.
4:44:58PM THEY DON'T HAVE IT.
4:44:59PM THEY BARELY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO MAINTAIN THE ALLEYS THAT WE
4:45:02PM HAVE.
4:45:03PM AND THAT'S WHY THEY SIGNED OFF ON IT.
4:45:05PM EMS AND EMERGENCY SERVICES, THEY SIGNED OFF ON IT.
4:45:09PM THEY DON'T ACCESS IT VIA THE REAR.
4:45:13PM THEY HAVE A VERY WIDE STREET ON THE FRONT ON THE CHICAGO
4:45:15PM SIDE WHICH THEY ACCESS FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS.
4:45:18PM IF SOMEBODY HAS A HARDSHIP REGARDING ACCESSING THEIR REAR
4:45:21PM PART OF THEIR HOME, BECAUSE THEY BOUGHT THAT, I DON'T HAVE
4:45:25PM ANY CONTROL OVER THAT, AND THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN.
4:45:28PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY EXCEPT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S
4:45:31PM THE COUNCIL'S WISHES TO CONTINUE, FINE, WE'LL CONTINUE AND
4:45:36PM MOVE ON.
4:45:37PM BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO BE THIS PETITIONER TO BE HELD
4:45:39PM RESPONSIBLE FOR DESIGN ISSUES.
4:45:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
4:45:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
4:45:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DOES THE PETITIONER HAVE TO AGREE TO A
4:45:49PM REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE BY COUNCIL?
4:45:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE IT HEARD.
4:45:59PM IF HE OBJECTS TO THE CONTINUANCE, THEN CERTAINLY HE GOES
4:46:03PM FORWARD WITH WHATEVER COUNCIL'S DECISION IS.
4:46:06PM IF COUNCIL BELIEVES THAT THEY NEED A CONTINUANCE --
4:46:12PM >> THANK YOU.
4:46:13PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, OFF MOTION YOU WANT TO MAKE?
4:46:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?
4:46:27PM WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS WE WANT TO ASK STAFF.
4:46:29PM SO I -- I WANT TO HEAR FROM STAFF.
4:46:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S ONE OF THE RELEVANT QUESTIONS YOU
4:46:36PM WOULD ASK STAFF.
4:46:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT STAFF HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER
4:46:40PM QUESTIONS I WANT TO ASK, MR. SHELBY.
4:46:42PM SO IF COUNCIL IS ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE BECAUSE SHE HAS
4:46:47PM OTHER QUESTIONS AS WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T GO ON THE
4:46:49PM ADVICE OF THE ATTORNEY, AND HE WAS SUGGESTING WE GO DO A
4:46:56PM CONTINUANCE.
4:46:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
4:46:59PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO I DON'T KNOW WHY --
4:47:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MICHELINI INDICATED HE DIDN'T OBJECT.
4:47:03PM IS THAT CORRECT?
4:47:04PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I AM NOT OBJECTING.
4:47:07PM I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY TESTIFIED.
4:47:08PM I THINK THAT TESTIMONY OUGHT TO BE ENOUGH AND SUFFICIENT FOR
4:47:12PM THIS HEARING.
4:47:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, IT TURNS OUT THAT PEOPLE HAVE
4:47:15PM REGISTERED --
4:47:18PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: UM TALKING ABOUT THE ONES WHO HAVE
4:47:20PM ALREADY SPOKEN.
4:47:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ONES THAT HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN DON'T
4:47:25PM GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK A SECOND TIME NOW. WHAT HAPPENS TO
4:47:27PM THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING ONLINE?
4:47:29PM ALSO I SHOULD POINT OUT, COUNCIL, THAT THERE ARE OTHER
4:47:31PM HEARINGS TO BE HEARD TODAY, AND THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE TO
4:47:34PM TESTIFY, AND I HEAR THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOSING ANOTHER
4:47:36PM COUNCILMEMBER SHORTLY.
4:47:39PM SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
4:47:41PM SO LET'S JUST -- WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE WITH REGARD TO
4:47:45PM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WAITING TO TESTIFY?
4:47:50PM THEY ARE ALL ONLINE.
4:47:51PM THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING.
4:47:52PM IT IS NOW, WHAT, 4:50 IN THE AFTERNOON.
4:47:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF IT'S CONTINUED THEY CAN
4:47:56PM TESTIFY THE NEXT TIME WHEN THIS COMES BACK.
4:47:59PM BUT I'M JUST SAYING, IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, AND MR. MICHELINI
4:48:06PM CAN'T ANSWER THEM AND EITHER CAN ROSS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND
4:48:08PM WHY WE ARE STILL GOING DOWN THIS ROAD AND IT'S AFTER 5:00
4:48:11PM AND YOU KNOW STAFF ISN'T HERE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
4:48:13PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: WHICH MEN'S MEMBERS OF THE STAFF DO YOU
4:48:18PM WANT TO BE PRESENT?
4:48:19PM MOBILITY?
4:48:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY CAN ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS.
4:48:27PM >> BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE.
4:48:29PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, ROSS IS HERE.
4:48:31PM HE WEE DO DON'T KNOW WHY IT WAS FILED PREVIOUSLY.
4:48:36PM WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON AND WE DON'T KNOW.
4:48:41PM >>ROSS SAMMONS: AS FAR AS RESTATEMENT, PETITIONERS DON'T
4:48:47PM COME OR MY DEPARTMENT TO REINSTATE AN ALLEY.
4:48:50PM ONLY THE VACATE.
4:48:50PM WE ONLY DO ENCROACHMENTS, RELEASE OF EASEMENTS.
4:48:54PM THAT'S ALL WE DEAL WITH.
4:48:55PM AS FAR AS CODE ENFORCEMENT, I CAN'T SPEAK ON THAT AND I
4:48:58PM DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY FILED THE CODE VIOLATION, OR WHEN A
4:49:02PM CITATION WAS IN PLACE.
4:49:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK WE NEED MORE RESEARCH, ROSS.
4:49:08PM AND I DON'T CARE ABOUT WANTING TO PAVE AN ALLEY.
4:49:11PM WE HAVE PLENTY OF ALLEYS THAT ARE NOT CLOSED THAT ARE NOT
4:49:14PM PAVED, AND TO ME, ABOUT A ROAD BEING PAVED, I DON'T CARE
4:49:18PM ABOUT THAT.
4:49:19PM I JUST WANT THE INFORMATION TO FIND OUT WHAT THESE FOLKS
4:49:22PM WERE SAYING FIRST SO THESE FOLKS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET
4:49:25PM THEIR CASE HEARD, AND I WANT THE FACTS.
4:49:31PM SO I WANT TO CONTINUE IT.
4:49:32PM >>ROSS SAMMONS: AND I FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO MAKE YOUR CLEAR
4:49:37PM QUESTIONS NOW SO LEGAL DEPARTMENT CAN AND MYSELF CAN REACH
4:49:41PM OUT TO SEE WHO NEEDS TO PROPERLY ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
4:49:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE A QUESTION.
4:49:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, IS YOUR LINE OF
4:49:51PM QUESTIONING FINISHED FOR NOW?
4:49:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF YOU ARE ASKING --
4:49:55PM >> OTHERWISE I WILL HAVE COUNCILMAN --
4:49:59PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF YOU ARE SAYING MOBILITY, YOU NEED CODE
4:50:01PM OR LAND DEVELOPMENT OR WHATEVER, TO BE ABLE TO BE SAY, WHAT
4:50:05PM HAPPENED WITH THESE FOLKS, WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO AND GIVE
4:50:08PM US ANSWERS ABOUT THIS ALLEYWAY.
4:50:10PM IT'S SIMPLE.
4:50:10PM >> YES, SIR.
4:50:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:50:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MEAN, WE CAN FOLLOW THIS E-MAIL THREAD,
4:50:22PM AND AGAIN I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO READ IT BECAUSE I JUST GOT
4:50:25PM IT.
4:50:25PM BUT IT LOOKS, IF I AM JUST LOOKING THROUGH IT, IT LOOKS LIKE
4:50:30PM CODE ENFORCEMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT WAS INVOLVED,
4:50:33PM LOOKS LIKE DEVELOPMENT GROWTH AND MANAGEMENT WAS INVOLVED,
4:50:35PM LOOKS LIKE THE CITY SURVEYOR WAS INVOLVED, SOME SO WE JUST
4:50:40PM HAVE A LOT OF THINGS.
4:50:42PM I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME, CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR, AND
4:50:47PM THEN BILL CARLSON WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.
4:50:51PM AND NOW WE ARE BACK TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD
4:50:53PM ENHANCEMENT.
4:50:56PM SO THOSE FOLKS.
4:50:58PM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THIS E-MAIL, IT WOULD BE HANDY SO THAT
4:51:01PM THEY COULD HELP PROVIDE THE TIMELINE.
4:51:04PM BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR A TIMELINE OF HOW THIS ALL STARTED.
4:51:08PM LIKE HOW DID IT ALL START?
4:51:10PM HOW DID WE GET THIS NICE SURVEY?
4:51:12PM WHY DID WE HAVE THE NICE SURVEY?
4:51:14PM IF IT WAS A NICE SURVEY, WHY?
4:51:16PM SO IT SEEMS LIKE ALL THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN
4:51:19PM THIS.
4:51:20PM >>RON WIGGINTON: UNDERSTAND, CAN COUNCILWOMAN.
4:51:24PM YES, I UNDERSTAND WHO NEEDS TO BE PRESENT FOR THE NEXT
4:51:26PM HEARING IF YOU WILL.
4:51:27PM HOWEVER I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT AS TO THE PEOPLE WHO
4:51:29PM HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
4:51:32PM I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY BE HEARD BECAUSE NUMBER ONE THEY
4:51:34PM COULD HAVE AN IMPACT AS TO WHETHER YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THIS
4:51:38PM CASE OR NOT AND THEY MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR WHEN YOU DO
4:51:42PM THE FIRST READING.
4:51:44PM IT SEEMS IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
4:51:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:51:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SEE IF I CAN PUT ALL OF THIS
4:51:50PM TOGETHER.
4:51:51PM THIS IS AN ALLEY THAT'S NOT CLOSED, PERIOD.
4:51:54PM RIGHT?
4:51:55PM BUT YET ON BOTH SIDE, THERE'S A FENCE ON IT.
4:51:58PM >> TECHNICALLY THE ALLEYWAY IS CLOSED, NOT BY ANY ACTION OF
4:52:05PM THE CITY.
4:52:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHATEVER THE EASEMENT.
4:52:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHATEVER THE EASEMENT WAS NORTH OR SOUTH.
4:52:11PM THEN I WOULD IMAGINE THAT SOMEBODY EXPANDS THAT YOU ARE
4:52:15PM PROPERTY, AND NOW THE ALLEY IS NOT CLOSED, BUT IT'S CLOSED,
4:52:20PM IN THEORY, BECAUSE SOMEBODY WENT IN AND DID THEIR SIX FEET.
4:52:26PM MAYBE AT THIS TIME WHOLE ALLEY, YOU DON'T KNOW.
4:52:29PM NOW THE PETITIONER, THEY WANT TO MOVE INTO THE ALLEY AND
4:52:34PM THEY CAN'T.
4:52:34PM IS THAT WHAT IT IS?
4:52:35PM >>RON WIGGINTON: IT'S REALLY A PROPERTY QUESTION HERE,
4:52:41PM BECAUSE REALLY THAT'S WHERE IT GETS REALLY TRICKY ABOUT WHO
4:52:48PM IS ENCROACHING ON WHO.
4:52:49PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YOU CAN'T BUILD IN THAT ALLEY.
4:52:54PM WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BUILD.
4:52:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE.
4:52:57PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THIS PETITION IS
4:52:59PM DESIGNED TO BE TRY TO STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT.
4:53:01PM AND THAT'S FINE, A CONTINUANCE IS FINE IF YOU WANT IT.
4:53:05PM BUT GET THE OTHER PARTIES OUT HERE AND GET THEM TO EXPLAIN
4:53:07PM TO YOU WHY THAT ALLEY CANNOT BE REOPENED.
4:53:10PM THAT'S FINE.
4:53:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF I LISTENED TO JUDGE WAPNER, HE HAD A
4:53:17PM CASE LIKE THIS BEFORE.
4:53:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
4:53:19PM MADAM CLERK, WE HAVE PEOPLE ONLINE?
4:53:25PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
4:53:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF I COULD ASK MS. PRICE.
4:53:30PM I JUST SCANNED THE E-MAILS, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT STARTED
4:53:34PM WITH MY OFFICE WHERE WE DIAGNOSED IT AS A CODE ENFORCEMENT
4:53:37PM ISSUE AND YOU WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH KEVIN AMOS,
4:53:40PM CODE ENFORCEMENT, BUT WHEN YOU AND YOUR NEIGHBORS SPOKE, YOU
4:53:45PM SAID THAT SOMEBODY GAVE YOU THE INDICATION, YOU OR SHE SAID
4:53:49PM THAT SOMEBODY GAVE YOU THE INDICATION THAT YOU WERE IN SOME
4:53:51PM KIND OF PROCESS TO REESTABLISH THE ALLEY.
4:53:55PM >> 729, WHICH WAS AT PAGE 4 AT THE VERY BOTTOM YOU WILL SEE
4:54:00PM THE KEVIN AMOS SENT A NOTICE THAT THEY WERE QUIETLY STARTING
4:54:04PM TO PROVIDE NOTICES TO THE PEOPLE ON STROUD, ABOUT
4:54:09PM ENCROACHMENT, AND THEY WOULD BE GIVEN AN AMPLE AMOUNT OF
4:54:12PM TIME TO REMEDY IT AND GET EVERYTHING OUT OF THERE.
4:54:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY QUESTION IS THIS.
4:54:16PM WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO TO BRING BACK FOR THE NEXT
4:54:20PM MEETING.
4:54:21PM >> CLARENCE WADE, KEVIN AMOS, ERIC COTTON, NICOLE SEGORA WHO
4:54:27PM IS THE INSPECTOR.
4:54:27PM ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE DEALT WITH.
4:54:30PM BARBARA LYNCH IS THE ONE WHO TOLD ME WHERE DO GO.
4:54:33PM BUT I HAVE JUST BEEN CHASING MY TAIL.
4:54:35PM IT'S BEEN ALMOST TWO YEARS.
4:54:36PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY UNDER 1IN A CIRCUMSTANCES IS
4:54:40PM ANYTHING PUNITIVE, OR THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THIS EXCEPT FOR
4:54:43PM THE FACT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD ON THE BACK OF OUR
4:54:46PM PROPERTY.
4:54:46PM WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD ON THE ALLEYWAY.
4:54:49PM WE HAVE ROOM TO BUILD.
4:54:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF BECAUSE YOU ALREADY
4:54:54PM TOOK YOUR THREE MINUTES.
4:54:55PM BUT JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION.
4:54:56PM YOU RATTLED OFF A WHOLE BUNCH OF NAMES.
4:54:58PM I WOULD JUST ASK STAFF TO REPLAY THIS AND GET THAT LIST, AND
4:55:02PM INVITE THOSE FOLKS TO THE NEXT MEETING.
4:55:05PM THANK YOU.
4:55:05PM >> THANK YOU.
4:55:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
4:55:11PM ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ONLINE THAT ARE GOING TO BE GIVING
4:55:14PM ANY KIND OF TESTIMONY, WOULD YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND TO
4:55:17PM BE SWORN IN?
4:55:18PM ARE THESE THE ONLY 2001 PEOPLE WE HAVE?
4:55:20PM >>THE CLERK: FELICIA LIVINGOOD.
4:55:26PM SHE NEEDS TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO.
4:55:29PM STEPHANIE POYNOR, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE SHE HAS VIDEO
4:55:33PM CAPABILITY SO SHE HAS TO LOG IN OUT AND LOG BACK IN.
4:55:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND THESE TWO GENTLEMEN THAT ARE ON CAMERA
4:55:44PM NOW.
4:55:45PM GENTLEMEN, COULD YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE
4:55:47PM SWORN IN?
4:55:48PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
4:55:50PM YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
4:55:52PM TRUTH?
4:55:53PM >> YES.
4:55:55PM >>THE CLERK: YES.
4:55:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROBERT, LET'S GO WITH YOU FIRST.
4:55:58PM >> MY NAME IS ROBERT MONTAGRINNO.
4:56:06PM A HOMEOWNER SINCE 2018 AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE SAY I AM
4:56:09PM AGAINST THE ABOLISHMENT OF THE ALLEYWAY.
4:56:12PM THE ATTORNEY EARLIER SAID THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO USE OF THE
4:56:15PM ALLEYWAY, AND MISREPRESENTATION BECAUSE THE OWNERS ON STROUD
4:56:21PM AVENUE HAVE ILLEGALLY ENCROACHED ON 126 FEET, THAT'S THE
4:56:24PM ALLEYWAY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT UPON.
4:56:27PM BECAUSE OF THIS, AND THE FACT THAT OUR HOUSES ARE NOT FREE
4:56:31PM STANDING HOMES, IT IS DIFFICULT TO ACCESS THE BACK OF THE
4:56:35PM HOUSE TO HAVE EITHER PEOPLE COME WORK ON IT, DO RENOVATIONS
4:56:38PM TO THE HOUSE, ACCESS, PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, SUCH AS AC UNIT,
4:56:43PM AND BECAUSE OF THIS WE ARE DENIED THE ACCESS THAT THE PEOPLE
4:56:49PM ON WEST STROUD ARE ENTITLED TO, BECAUSE EARLIER THE USE OF
4:56:52PM THE ALLEYWAY OF 12 FEET THAT THEY BUILT UPON, THAT IS
4:56:56PM SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR THE PUBLIC, RESTAURANT, WEST CHICAGO
4:57:02PM AVENUE RESIDENTS.
4:57:04PM WE HAVE NOT HAD THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE THIS.
4:57:06PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ALLEYWAY REOPENED IN THE
4:57:09PM FUTURE.
4:57:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT YOUR TESTIMONY?
4:57:14PM >> YES, SIR.
4:57:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.
4:57:19PM WE'LL TAKE YOU NEXT, PATRICK.
4:57:25PM UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.
4:57:35PM >> MY NAME IS PATRICK MONTAGRINNO.
4:57:38PM I AGREE WITH THE PRIOR OWNER ABOUT THE ABOLISHMENT OF THE
4:57:41PM ALLEYWAY.
4:57:43PM THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO KNOCK US IN ON, THAT'S THE
4:57:46PM FENCE THAT WAS BUILT FOR THE WEST CHICAGO TOWNHOMES, HAS S
4:57:52PM NOT IN THE ALLEYWAY.
4:57:53PM AND BASICALLY THE HOMEOWNERS OR WEST STROUD HAVE ENCROACHED
4:57:59PM 12 FEET, THE ENTIRE ALLEYWAY.
4:58:05PM SO THAT'S THE FENCE ON THE WEST CHICAGO SIDE.
4:58:08PM AND IT'S NOT IN THE ALLEYWAY.
4:58:10PM AND I GUESS THERE'S NO FENCE ON THE OTHER SIDE ON WEST
4:58:15PM STROUD.
4:58:16PM IT'S JUST THEIR BACK YARDS ESSENTIALLY.
4:58:19PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
4:58:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:58:25PM MRS. LIVINGOOD, CAN YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE
4:58:28PM SWORN IN?
4:58:29PM >>THE CLERK:
4:58:31PM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
4:58:32PM >> FELICIA LIVINGOOD: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TIME AND
4:58:40PM YOUR PATIENCE.
4:58:41PM I KNOW WE ARE AT 5:00.
4:58:44PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
4:58:45PM I JUST WANT TO SAY AS A NEW HOMEOWNER IN THIS TOWN HOME THAT
4:58:49PM I BELIEVE THERE WAS A STATEMENT ABOUT HOW THE FENCE WAS
4:58:54PM BUILT, AND ACCESS WAS KIND OF BLOCKED OFF, AND I DON'T THINK
4:59:02PM IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO BUILD A FENCE TO
4:59:06PM SOMEONE'S BACKYARD, AND JUST TO REITERATE ON THE ACCESS
4:59:09PM PORTION, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS OUR BACK YARDS.
4:59:13PM WITH THE RECENT HURRICANE THERE HAS BEEN A HURRICANE AND A
4:59:15PM LOT OF PICTURES WITH THAT.
4:59:17PM SO JUST TO HAVE THE ABILITY AND STROUD TO HAVE THE ABILITY
4:59:21PM AS WELL.
4:59:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FOR THE RECORD CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR
4:59:24PM NAME?
4:59:25PM >> FELICIA LIVINGOOD.
4:59:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:59:29PM MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE ONLINE?
4:59:33PM >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE]
4:59:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE YOUR
4:59:47PM MOTION?
4:59:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THIS UNTIL
4:59:54PM WE CAN HAVE THE STAFF INVOLVED IN THIS E-MAIL CHAIN
5:00:01PM AVAILABLE.
5:00:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THE DATE AND TIME CERTAIN, PLEASE.
5:00:07PM THAT'S REQUIRED.
5:00:08PM THAT'S REQUIRED --
5:00:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN DO WE HAVE TIME FOR THAT?
5:00:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, DO YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO
5:00:18PM SPEAK FOR STAFF?
5:00:22PM >>RON WIGGINTON: THERE WOULD BE SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS THAT
5:00:24PM NEED TO BE NOTIFIED AND PREPARED.
5:00:25PM I WOULD REQUEST AT LEAST 45 DAYS UNLESS THE APPLICANT HAS
5:00:28PM ANY OBJECTION.
5:00:29PM 45 DAYS.
5:00:34PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: AS MR. MIRANDA SAID, THIS IS A UNIQUE
5:00:38PM SITUATION.
5:00:39PM SO I THINK IF STAFF NEEDS 45 DAYS, THAT'S FINE.
5:00:43PM I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE HAVE IT ON A DAY WHEN YOU HAVE --
5:00:46PM NOT HAVE SO MANY HEARINGS SIGNED UP.
5:00:48PM [ LAUGHTER ]
5:00:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU THINK --
5:00:58PM >> I AM HERE FOR THE DURATION.
5:01:00PM HOWEVER, WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE.
5:01:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. POYNOR, CAN YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT
5:01:07PM HAND TO BE SWORN IN?
5:01:10PM YOU ARE MUTED, MS. POYNOR.
5:01:12PM >> HI.
5:01:13PM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
5:01:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN, MS.
5:01:17PM POYNOR.
5:01:17PM >>THE CLERK:
5:01:19PM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
5:01:19PM >> I DO.
5:01:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE IT, COULD YOU
5:01:28PM PLEASE TAKE THE SIGN DOWN BEHIND YOU?
5:01:30PM >> OH, I'M SORRY.
5:01:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S AN OLD SIGN
5:01:38PM FROM FOUR YEARS AGO.
5:01:40PM >> I JUST SET IT UP.
5:01:44PM I HAD NO IDEA.
5:01:46PM OKAY.
5:01:47PM SO HERE IS WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT.
5:01:49PM THERE ARE SEVEN LETTERS AGAINST THIS, IN OPPOSITION TO THIS,
5:01:55PM THAT HAVE BEEN IN THERE SINCE AUGUST.
5:01:57PM THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR THIS STUFF COMING UP LAST MINUTE AT
5:02:01PM THIS HEARING.
5:02:02PM THIS WAS MISNOTICED.
5:02:04PM PEOPLE -- AND, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY, BUT PEOPLE DO THINGS
5:02:08PM THAT THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO WITHOUT PERMISSION.
5:02:12PM BUT THAT DOESN'T EXCUSE THEM DOING THAT.
5:02:16PM SO I'M REALLY, REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT HOW IF YOU VACATE THIS
5:02:23PM ALLEYWAY IT'S ACTUALLY NEEDED.
5:02:26PM IF THOSE FOLKS WANT TO CUT DOWN A TREE, THEY WILL EITHER
5:02:28PM HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM ONE OF THE PEOPLE ON THE SOUTH
5:02:31PM SIDE, OR DRAG IT THROUGH THEIR HOUSE.
5:02:35PM THERE'S NO WAY AROUND.
5:02:36PM THEY DON'T HAVE -- BUT SEVEN LETTERS ON ACCELA AND WE ARE
5:02:43PM SHOWING UP HERE?
5:02:44PM AND HOW MANY TIMES DID THEY CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND THEY
5:02:50PM ASKED FOR ASSISTANCE FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT BEFORE THIS MUCH
5:02:53PM VACATION WAS EVER FILED?
5:02:56PM IT DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE TO ME.
5:02:59PM AND ACTUALLY THERE'S A WHOLE LOT INFORMATION AND
5:03:02PM PowerPoint THAT WILL MAKE THE HAIR STAND UP ON THE BACK OF
5:03:04PM YOUR NECK.
5:03:06PM THIS TO ME --
5:03:10PM IT NEED TO BE POSTPONED, BUT IT ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE WHAT IT
5:03:14PM SHOULD BE WHICH IS AN ALLEYWAY AND THESE FOLKS ON CHICAGO
5:03:19PM DON'T MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF BECAUSE THEY ARE NICE PEOPLE.
5:03:27PM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
5:03:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
5:03:33PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO FINAL MAKE THE
5:03:36PM MOTION?
5:03:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DID.
5:03:37PM BUT THE DATE, WHAT'S 45 DAYS FROM NOW?
5:03:42PM SOUND LIKE DECEMBER.
5:03:44PM >> I APOLOGIZE BUT I HAVE JUST BEEN TOLD BY STAFF AND OTHERS
5:03:48PM THAT 30 DAYS IS SUFFICIENT TIME.
5:03:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
5:03:52PM SO THAT ONE BRING US TO THE 17th?
5:03:56PM AND IF WE COULD MAKE THAT TIME CERTAIN AT 1:30 SINCE
5:04:02PM THAT'S --
5:04:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU COULD MAKE IT WHATEVER TIME CERTAIN
5:04:06PM YOU WANT.
5:04:07PM BUT WHEN YOU MAKE IT TIME CERTAIN, WHATEVER IS HAPPENING HAS
5:04:10PM TO BE WRAPPED UP, AND THEN YOU GO --
5:04:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN I WOULD JUST PUT IT FIRST.
5:04:20PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN DO WE GET TO THE REST OF THEM?
5:04:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS.
5:04:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, WHAT IS YOUR SUGGESTION?
5:04:30PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
5:04:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 10:30 A.M. AS THE FIRST ITEM UNDER THAT
5:04:37PM SECTION.
5:04:37PM THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
5:04:39PM TIME UNDER THAT.
5:04:39PM THANK YOU.
5:04:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
5:04:49PM HURTAK, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:04:54PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
5:04:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. SHELBY, CAN YOU JUST MAKE IT CLEAR?
5:04:59PM I THINK YOU ALL SAID A LITTLE WHILE AGO WHEN IT COMES BACK,
5:05:02PM THE PEOPLE WHO SHOW AT PUBLIC COMMENT NOW CANNOT SPEAK
5:05:04PM AGAIN.
5:05:05PM CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY THAT?
5:05:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I CAN CLARIFY IT BECAUSE THE ANSWER IS
5:05:10PM BARRING ANY CHANGES THAT THEY CAN'T SPEAK GREN, BUT IF THERE
5:05:15PM IS SOMETHING THAT DOES SUB TAN UNFORTUNATELY THE CHANGE, AND
5:05:19PM I DON'T THINK IT IS BECAUSE TO VACATE THEY NORMALLY WOULD
5:05:22PM NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AGAIN.
5:05:23PM SO THE ANSWER IS, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING SUBSTANTIVE THAT
5:05:28PM IS PRODUCED PRIOR TO THE HEARING, NO, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE AN
5:05:32PM OPPORTUNITY SPEAK AGAIN.
5:05:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:05:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT DISAGREEING WITH OUR CITY
5:05:40PM COUNCIL ATTORNEY, BUT WHATEVER IS COMING, NEW PEOPLE ARE
5:05:42PM COMING, AND THERE WILL BE NEW TESTIMONY, SO YOU ARE GOING TO
5:05:45PM AVOID THESE INDIVIDUALS FROM QUESTIONING PEOPLE THAT ARE
5:05:48PM COMING IN THAT MAY PRESENT TESTIMONY, THAT'S WHAT I HEAR.
5:05:51PM IT'S NOT FAIR TO THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HEARD THE
5:05:53PM TESTIMONY OR WHATEVER.
5:05:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION.
5:06:01PM IT SOUND LIKE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK BECAUSE THERE WILL
5:06:03PM BE NEW TESTIMONY.
5:06:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WON'T BE NEW TESTIMONY FROM THE
5:06:07PM PETITIONER MR. MICHELINI, AND THE THING IS WE HAVE HAD
5:06:10PM ISSUES WHERE THE FIRST PERSON WHO SPEAKS, THE LAST PERSON
5:06:13PM WHO SPEAKS WANTS TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED BEFORE
5:06:16PM AND WE DON'T ALLOW THAT DURING THE SAME HEARING.
5:06:18PM SO IT WILL BE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S
5:06:20PM NOT LIKE -- IT'S NOT LIKE A NEW SITE PLAN COMING IN WHERE
5:06:25PM THERE ARE CHANGES BY THE PETITIONER TO A PLAN, AND THEY HAVE
5:06:29PM THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ONLY THE CHANGES.
5:06:32PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
5:06:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FINISH YOURS.
5:06:38PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
5:06:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY.
5:06:43PM I ONLY HAVE AN 8th GRADE EDUCATION.
5:06:45PM BUT WHEN YOU ARE ASKING PEOPLE TO COME IN AND GIVE TESTIMONY
5:06:48PM AND TV TO WHAT THEY DID OR DIDN'T DO, IF THOSE FOLKS -- THAT
5:06:53PM WOULD BE CONTESTABLE, WOULDN'T IT SIR?
5:07:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE ARE HEARD ABOUT PEOPLE YOU HEARD FROM
5:07:02PM TODAY, WHETHER THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK
5:07:04PM AND TAKE ANOTHER THREE MINUTES.
5:07:06PM AND NORMALLY, NORMALLY DURING REGULAR REZONINGS, WE DO NOT
5:07:10PM ALLOW THAT.
5:07:11PM IF YOU FEEL AND THEY ARE PRESENT IF YOU WANT TO ASK THEM
5:07:14PM QUESTIONS, THAT'S ONE THING.
5:07:15PM BUT TO GIVE EVERYBODY ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO REHASH WHAT
5:07:18PM THEY HAVE ALREADY PREVIOUSLY SAID WOULD BE REDUNDANT.
5:07:22PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS WE'LL PLAY THAT BY EAR WHEN WE GET
5:07:29PM THERE.
5:07:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE AGAIN, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS
5:07:36PM IS NOT A ZONING HEARING.
5:07:39PM HOW WOULD ANYONE HERE FEEL IF YOU GAVE TESTIMONY TODAY, AND
5:07:43PM THERE'S SOME PEOPLE COMING IN AND YOU CAN'T SPEAK BECAUSE
5:07:45PM YOU ALREADY GAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES. TO ME THAT'S
5:07:47PM UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
5:07:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE --
5:07:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES, NO I AM JUST SAYING --
5:07:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND MR. MIRANDA'S POINT AND AS
5:07:58PM LONG AS PEOPLE ARE ON NOTICE THAT COUNCIL IS READY WILLING
5:08:01PM TO DO THAT, THEN ON NOTICE THAT THEY CAN DO IT AND THAT'S
5:08:03PM FINE, TOO.
5:08:04PM YOU CAN MAKE THAT PART OF YOUR MOTION IF YOU WISH, OR JUST
5:08:06PM BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, EITHER WAY.
5:08:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO I NEED TO ADD THAT IN MY MOTION?
5:08:14PM AND I MIGHT AS WELL.
5:08:16PM THAT WAY EVERYBODY KNOWS, THAT THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO
5:08:19PM SPEAK AGAIN ON THIS ITEM.
5:08:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
5:08:27PM HURTAK.
5:08:28PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
5:08:29PM YOU ARE AMENABLE TO THE CONTINUANCE.
5:08:33PM MR. MICHELINI?
5:08:34PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
5:08:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:08:36PM IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE
5:08:38PM CONTINUANCE REQUEST ONLY?
5:08:44PM IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE THAT WOULD STILL LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE
5:08:47PM CONTINUANCE REQUEST ONLY?
5:08:51PM THANK YOU.
5:08:52PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL ON THIS MOTION.
5:08:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
5:08:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
5:09:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
5:09:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
5:09:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
5:09:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
5:09:03PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
5:09:06PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
5:09:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, THE SCHEDULING THING, I HAVE TO
5:09:14PM PICK UP MY KIDS BEFORE 6:00.
5:09:16PM SO I CAN EITHER HAVE A HARD STOP AT 5:30.
5:09:21PM THERE'S A BIG CASE COMING UP AND TWO OR THREE CASES.
5:09:24PM I CAN EITHER LEAVE AT 5:30 AND IF WE HAVEN'T HIT THAT ONE
5:09:28PM THEN I WON'T BE HERE.
5:09:29PM THE ALTERNATIVE IS WE CAN MOVE THAT ONE FORWARD, OR ANOTHER
5:09:32PM ALTERNATIVE IS I CAN GO GET MY KIDS AND HOPE THAT I MAKE IT
5:09:35PM BACK IN TIME FOR THAT CASE.
5:09:37PM WHICH WOULD YOU PREFER?
5:09:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WELL, WE HAVE SPENT THE GREATER PART OF THE
5:09:40PM DAY TALKING ABOUT 84 CASES, THAT IN MY OPINION COULD HAVE
5:09:46PM BEEN HEARD BY 2:00 IN THE AFTERNOON.
5:09:48PM SO IF YOU WISH TO LOOK AT THE AUDIENCE RIGHT THERE AND ASK
5:09:52PM THEM, CAN WE MOVE THE CASE THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED OR YOU
5:09:55PM FEEL IS THE MOST IMPORTANT, PLEASE BY ALL MEANS BE DO AND
5:09:58PM MAKE A MOTION.
5:10:02PM MAKE A MOTION.
5:10:05PM MR. SHELBY?
5:10:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT WILL BE ONE SHORT FOR THE PUBLIC.
5:10:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST ASK THE AUDIENCE HOW MANY OF YOU
5:10:20PM ARE HERE FOR NUMBER 89?
5:10:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE A REQUEST FROM ANYONE THAT WANTS
5:10:31PM TO HAVE THEIR CASE HEARD, TOO?
5:10:33PM SO MAKE A MOTION.
5:10:35PM PLEASE MAKE A MOTION.
5:10:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE NUMBER 89 TO THE NEXT
5:10:40PM ITEM.
5:10:41PM >> IF I COULD.
5:10:42PM I'M NUMBER 86, WHICH IS A COMPLEMENTARY ITEM TO A PREVIOUS
5:10:47PM ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
5:10:48PM AND I HAD A 5:00 APPOINTMENT WITH MY CHILDREN, AND I AM
5:10:52PM MISSING THEIR MEGA NIGHT.
5:10:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE A SECOND TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S
5:11:02PM MOTION?
5:11:03PM MOTION MADE BY CARLSON, SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
5:11:07PM LET'S CALL FOR A VOTE.
5:11:10PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
5:11:18PM THANK YOU.
5:11:18PM I HAVE GILL YOU YOUR FIVE MINUTES.
5:11:20PM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
5:11:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE I FEEL WE JUST GO,
5:11:26PM AND MR. CARLSON HAS TO LEAVE, LEAVE AND COME BACK.
5:11:34PM I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GO.
5:11:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
5:11:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
5:11:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE, YES.
5:11:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO MOVE NUMBER 89 TO BE THE NEXT ITEM.
5:11:53PM OH, BECAUSE MY CHOICE IS LEAF AT 5:30 OR ELSE GO GET MY KID
5:12:00PM AND COME BACK HERE SO THE SOLUTION WE TALKED ABOUT IS MOVING
5:12:03PM NUMBER 89 NEXT.
5:12:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OUT OF ORDER.
5:12:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S PUTTING WORD IN MY MOUTH.
5:12:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHY ARE WE HEARING THAT FIRST?
5:12:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I DID WAS I GAVE YOU A CHOICE, WHICH
5:12:17PM WOULD YOU PREFER.
5:12:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND I AM NOT THE --
5:12:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM WE CAN'T VOTE ON
5:12:26PM THE ISSUES.
5:12:27PM I WAS TRYING TO BE POLITE AND NOT JUST LEAVE.
5:12:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN LET'S FINISH THE LEAVE.
5:12:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE VOTE IS FOR YOU TO GO AND GET YOUR KIDS
5:12:36PM AND COME BACK?
5:12:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE VOTE WAS --
5:12:42PM >> TO MOVE IT UP.
5:12:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
5:12:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
5:12:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S PLEASE MOVE FORWARD.
5:12:52PM MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO VOTING NO.
5:12:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO WHICH ARE WE GOING TO HEAR, 89?
5:13:01PM AGENDA NUMBER 89.
5:13:03PM FILE FDN 21-125-C.
5:13:10PM IS THIS AN ACTUAL HEARING OR ARE WE JUST HEARING
5:13:13PM RECOMMENDATIONS?
5:13:14PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: CITY ATTORNEY ASSISTANT.
5:13:17PM THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
5:13:22PM AND IF I COULD ASK FOR THE PowerPoint TO BE BROUGHT UP,
5:13:26PM PLEASE.
5:13:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, JUST TO ENSURE THAT EVERYBODY
5:13:30PM GETS SWORN IN.
5:13:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
5:13:32PM HAS EVERYBODY BEEN SWORN IN? CAN YOU PLEASE STAND TO BE
5:13:36PM SWORN IN?
5:13:39PM IF YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE ANY TESTIMONY TODAY, WOULD YOU
5:13:41PM PLEASE BE SWORN IN?
5:13:42PM >>THE CLERK:
5:13:44PM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
5:13:45PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THE PowerPoint SHOULD BE UP NOW.
5:14:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
5:14:19PM GO AHEAD.
5:14:20PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:14:20PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I AM JUST WAITING ON MY PowerPoint
5:14:23PM TO POP UP ON THE SCREEN.
5:14:25PM THERE IT IS.
5:14:26PM SO COUNCIL, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON CONSIDERATION OF A
5:14:30PM RECOMMENDED ORDER ON PETITION FOR REVIEW OF FORMAL DECISION
5:14:35PM NUMBER 21-125.
5:14:39PM REVIEW HEARINGS OR FORMAL DECISIONS ARE GOVERNED BY SECTION
5:14:42PM 27-616-J-1 OF YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
5:14:46PM IN THIS CASE, THE AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER IS
5:14:50PM MR. JASON McCARDY, THE AGGRIEVED PARTY, THE PETITIONER WHO
5:14:54PM FILED THE REQUEST FOR REVIEW IN THIS CASE IS JOSEPH
5:14:58PM CALDWELL, WHO AT ONE TIME WAS REPRESENTED BY JUSTIN BEES,
5:15:04PM AND THE HEARING OFFICER RECOMMENDATION AFTER THE CONDUCT OF
5:15:06PM THE HEARING WAS AT CITY COUNCIL DENYING MR. CALDWELL'S
5:15:09PM REQUEST TO REVERSE THE AUGUST 21st, 2021 FORMAL
5:15:15PM DECISION.
5:15:15PM SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES WERE TWO PROPERTIES LOCATED IN
5:15:18PM YBOR CITY AT 1916 AND 1918 EAST 5th AVENUE.
5:15:23PM PRIOR TO 2000, THESE PROPERTIES WERE ZONED YC-6.
5:15:28PM AND IN 2000 THE CITY INITIATED AN AREA WIDE REZONING BUT
5:15:33PM PROPERTY OWNERS COULD AT A TIME OPT OUT OF THAT AREA WIDE
5:15:37PM REZONING BY SUBMITTING A LETTER TO THE CITY REQUESTING THAT
5:15:41PM THEY BE EXCLUDED FROM THE REZONING.
5:15:46PM THE CITY WAS PROVIDED A LETTER THAT WAS DATED MARCH 8th
5:15:49PM OF 2000 FOR BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES, ASKING TO BE EXCLUDED
5:15:52PM FROM THIS AREA WADE REZONING, AND FOR THE PROPERTIES TO
5:15:56PM RETAIN THEIR YC-6 ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
5:16:00PM FOR REASONS THAT WERE NOT CLEAR OF AT THIS POINT, THE
5:16:03PM PROPERTIES WERE INADVERTENTLY REZONED FROM YC-6 TO YC-7.
5:16:11PM SO THE AUTHORIZED AGENT MR. ACCARDI LAST YEAR FILED A FORMAL
5:16:20PM DETERMINATION FOR THESE TWO PROPERTIES BECAUSE HIS DESIRE
5:16:24PM WAS TO USE THESE TWO PROPERTIES AS PARKING LOTS, AND SO THE
5:16:28PM ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE YC-6
5:16:31PM CLASSIFICATION THAT THE PROPERTIES WERE ORIGINALLY ALLOWS
5:16:35PM PARKING AS A PRINCIPAL USE.
5:16:38PM THE YC-7 CLASSIFICATION DOES NOT ALLOW PARKING AS A
5:16:42PM PRINCIPAL USE.
5:16:43PM SO THIS INADVERTENT REZONING RESULTED IN MR. ACCARDI NOT
5:16:47PM BEING ABLE TO USE THE TWO LOTS AS A PARKING LOT.
5:16:52PM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR ISSUED A DECISION LETTER ON AUGUST
5:16:55PM 30th OF 2021, DETERMINING THAT THE PROPERTIES WERE IN
5:16:59PM FACT INADVERTENTLY REZONED, OR RECLASSIFIED TO YC-7, AND
5:17:06PM BASED ON THE LETTER THAT THE CITY RECEIVED FROM 2000
5:17:10PM REQUESTING EXCLUSION OF THESE PROPERTIES, THE PROPERTIES
5:17:12PM SHOULD HAVE RETAINED THEIR YC-6 CLASSIFICATION.
5:17:19PM SO MR. CALDWELL, IN RESPONSE TO THE FORMAL DECISION LETTER
5:17:22PM FILED A PETITION FOR REVIEW.
5:17:25PM UNDER THE CODE, BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF DECISION IT IS, IT
5:17:30PM UNDERGOES A REVIEW HEARING BEFORE A HEARING OFFICER, AND
5:17:34PM THAT HEARING OFFICER IS THE ONE WHO CONDUCTS A DE NOVO
5:17:37PM HEARING WHERE HE DOES FACT FINDING AND EVALUATES THE
5:17:40PM EVIDENCE AND THE TESTIMONY, AND THEN ISSUES A RECOMMENDED
5:17:43PM ORDER.
5:17:44PM AND THAT IS THE ORDER THAT'S BEFORE COUNCIL FOR
5:17:47PM CONSIDERATION TODAY.
5:17:48PM SO BASED UPON THE FINDINGS OF FACT, CONCLUSIONS OF LAW AND
5:17:53PM THE EVIDENCE THAT THE HEARING OFFICER HEARD AND TESTIMONY
5:17:55PM THAT HE RECEIVED DURING THE HEARING, THE HEARING OFFICER
5:17:58PM RECOMMENDED UP HOLDING THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION
5:18:02PM THAT DETERMINED THAT THE PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE RETAINED THEIR
5:18:05PM YC-6 CLASSIFICATION THAT AGAIN ALLOWS PARKING AS A PRINCIPAL
5:18:09PM USE OF THESE TWO LOTS.
5:18:11PM THE HEARING OFFICER ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY TAKE
5:18:14PM CORRECTIVE ACTION TO RECLASSIFY BOTH OF THESE LOTS TO THE
5:18:18PM YC-6 CLASSIFICATION.
5:18:21PM SO, AGAIN, COUNCIL, THE PURPOSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS
5:18:27PM FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE HEARING
5:18:29PM OFFICER, AND AGAIN THAT WAS TO DENY THE PETITION FOR REVIEW,
5:18:32PM AND AFFIRM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S FORMAL DECISION.
5:18:36PM SO FOLLOWING THIS PUBLIC HEARING, COUNCIL HAS A NUMBER OF
5:18:38PM POSSIBLE ACTIONS THAT IT CAN TAKE, EITHER ADOPT THE
5:18:41PM RECOMMENDED ORDER AS THE FINAL ORDER, IT COULD MODIFY THE
5:18:45PM RECOMMENDED ORDER, IT COULD REJECT THE RECOMMENDED ORDER, OR
5:18:48PM IT COULD REMAND THE MATTER BACK TO THE HEARING OFFICER FOR
5:18:51PM FURTHER FACT FINDING IF YOU DETERMINE THAT THAT IS
5:18:54PM NECESSARY.
5:18:54PM SO IN A MOMENT I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT EXCEPTIONS, AND ORAL
5:18:58PM ARGUMENT THAT ARE ALSO PROVIDED FOR UNDER THE CODE, BUT WE
5:19:04PM HAVE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF EXCEPTIONS, AND WE HAVE RECEIVED A
5:19:08PM NUMBER OF REQUESTS FOR ORAL ARGUMENTS.
5:19:11PM SO UNDER THE CODE, ALL PARTIES ARE ENTITLED TO OR HAVE TEN
5:19:17PM WORKING DAYS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF COUNCIL HEARING TO FILE
5:19:19PM EXCEPTIONS TO THE RECOMMENDED ORDER WITH THE CITY CLERK.
5:19:22PM SO THOSE EXCEPTIONS HAVE TO CONSIST OF OBJECTIONS TO THE
5:19:25PM FINDINGS OF FACT, OR CONCLUSIONS OF LAW THAT ARE CONTAINED
5:19:29PM IN THE HEARING OFFICER'S RECOMMENDED ORDER.
5:19:32PM THE EXCEPTIONS HAVE TO IDENTIFY WHAT PORTION OF THE
5:19:35PM RECOMMENDED ORDER THEY ARE DISPUTING AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO
5:19:38PM PROVIDE A BASIS FOR THE EXCEPTION.
5:19:42PM ONCE THE CLERK RECEIVES ALL THOSE EXCEPTIONS, FORWARD THE
5:19:48PM HEARING OFFICER'S RECOMMENDED ORDER AND EXCEPTIONS TO CITY
5:19:50PM COUNCIL ALONG WITH ALL OF THE EVIDENCE, THE DOCUMENTARY
5:19:53PM EVIDENCE THAT WAS RECEIVED DURING THE HEARING, AND FOR THIS
5:19:56PM PARTICULAR HEARING, THE CLERK DID FORWARD THOSE TO CITY
5:19:59PM COUNCIL VIA E-MAIL ON OCTOBER 12th OF 2022.
5:20:04PM SO, AGAIN, CITY COUNCIL CAN BE ALSO ALLOW ORAL ARGUMENT UPON
5:20:07PM THE REQUEST, UPON ITS OWN MOTION, OR UPON A REQUEST BEING
5:20:13PM FAILED BY A PARTY.
5:20:15PM SO IF A PARTY IS GOING TO REQUEST ORAL ARGUMENT THE PARTY
5:20:18PM MUST DO SO BY FILING -- THE QUALIFY FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
5:20:26PM CONCURRENT WITH EXCEPTIONS TO THE RECOMMENDED ORDER, AND
5:20:28PM CITY COUNCIL UNDER THE CODE MAY ONLY ALLOW FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
5:20:32PM IF THEY FIND THAT THE HEARING OFFICER DID NOT ADDRESS A
5:20:35PM MATTER THAT WAS INTRODUCED INTO THE RECORD AT THE HEARING
5:20:39PM OFFICER HEARING, OR THE RECOMMENDED ORDER CONTAINS AN
5:20:43PM AMBIGUITY.
5:20:44PM CITY COUNCIL MAY ALSO LIMIT THE SCOPE OF ORAL ARGUMENT AND
5:20:49PM IT IS YOUR CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY'S DUTY UNDER THE CODE TO
5:20:53PM REVIEW THE REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT AND THE EXCEPTIONS AND
5:20:57PM MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHETHER THEY MEET THE CRITERIA
5:21:01PM UNDER THE CODE.
5:21:03PM SO IF COUNCIL ALLOWS ORAL ARGUMENT, I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE
5:21:07PM THAT UNDER THE CODE, THE CONTENT OF TESTIMONY HAS TO BE THE
5:21:11PM SAME AS THE TESTIMONY THAT WAS OFFERED AT THE HEARING
5:21:13PM OFFICER HEARING.
5:21:14PM STAFF AND EACH PARTY ARE ALLOWED UP TO TEN MINUTES TO SPEAK
5:21:17PM UNDER ORAL ARGUMENT.
5:21:19PM NONPARTY PARTICIPANTS HAVE BEEN THREE MINUTES TO BE SPEAK.
5:21:23PM AND NO PERSON MAY SUBMIT ANY NEW EVIDENCE TO CITY COUNCIL.
5:21:29PM AGAIN, WE DID RECEIVE A NUMBER OF EXCEPTIONS AND REQUESTS
5:21:32PM FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
5:21:33PM NO MOMENT I WILL HAVE MR. SHELBY PROVIDE YOUR
5:21:37PM RECOMMENDATION -- OR HIS RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHETHER THOSE
5:21:40PM MEET THE CRITERIA UNDER THE CODE.
5:21:41PM BUT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS REVIEWED THE VARIOUS EXCEPTIONS
5:21:45PM THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED, AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT THERE MAY BE
5:21:49PM ADDITIONAL FACT FINDINGS THAT MAY BE REQUIRED, AND WARRANTED
5:21:52PM IN THIS CASE.
5:21:53PM AND SO CERTAINLY, COUNCIL, IT WILL BE YOUR PLEASURE AS TO
5:21:57PM WHETHER OR NOT YOU OPEN IT FOR ORAL ARGUMENT, BUT AT THE
5:21:59PM CONCLUSION OF THE HEARING WE WILL BE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU
5:22:01PM REMAND BACK TO THE HEARING OFFICER FOR FURTHER FACT FINDING.
5:22:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM GOING TO GO --
5:22:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I ADDRESS SOMETHING? STATUTORILY IS
5:22:12PM THAT CALLED FOR IN THE STATUTE -- IN THE CODE, TO REMAND
5:22:15PM WITHOUT SPECIFIC DISCUSSION?
5:22:17PM BECAUSE YOU AND I HAVE NOT HAD THAT DISCUSSION AS TO A
5:22:20PM RECOMMENDATION.
5:22:20PM >> IT'S ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE TO REMAND IF THEY FIND THERE
5:22:26PM IS FURTHER FACT FINDING THAT IS REQUIRED.
5:22:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THEY HAVE TO STATE SPECIFICALLY AND
5:22:30PM FACT TO BE BROUGHT TO THE HEARING OFFICER; R, IS THAT
5:22:33PM CORRECT?
5:22:34PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WE WOULD CERTAINLY VASE THEM TO THAT
5:22:37PM FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
5:22:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S THE QUESTION, BUT WE'LL DISCUSS
5:22:41PM THAT.
5:22:41PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
5:22:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM GOING TO GO FIRST TO COUNCILWOMAN
5:22:46PM HURTAK, THEN CARLSON AND GUDES.
5:22:50PM I HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.
5:22:51PM YOU GO BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT REHEARING
5:22:54PM TESTIMONY, BUT IT HAS TO BE THE SAME TESTIMONY THAT YOU HAVE
5:22:57PM GIVEN.
5:22:57PM IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID?
5:22:59PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT.
5:23:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF WE DO NOT HAVE MINUTES OR RECORDS OF
5:23:05PM WHAT WAS SAID, TO WHAT CONTEXT IS IT THAT IT HAS TO BE THE
5:23:10PM SAME TESTIMONY?
5:23:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I, SIR?
5:23:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
5:23:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
5:23:16PM COUNCIL, ON THE SUGGESTION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE,
5:23:18PM WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A VERY GOOD SUGGESTION, I EMAILED YOU
5:23:21PM THE LINK THIS PAST WEEK TO THE HEARING ON YOUTUBE, WHICH RAN
5:23:27PM 1 HOUR 15 MINUTES AND YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR --
5:23:31PM >> I WATCHED IT.
5:23:37PM PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT IN THE AUDIENCE.
5:23:39PM EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE THE PHYSICAL RECORD, WITHOUT THE
5:23:49PM RECORD OF IT, HOW DO WE KNOW WHETHER IT WAS THE SAME OR NOT?
5:23:52PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
5:23:55PM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, WE DO HAVE A RECORD OF STATEMENTS THAT
5:23:59PM WERE MADE DURING THE HEARING SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO CONFIRM
5:24:01PM WITH EACH SPEAKER WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE CONFINING THEIR
5:24:04PM COMMENTS TO THOSE THAT WERE MADE FROM THE HEARING OFFICER.
5:24:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:24:10PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:24:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO, YES, LIKE CHAIRMAN CITRO, I ALSO WATCHED
5:24:15PM THE HOUR 15 MINUTE VIDEO, AND I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS
5:24:25PM BEFORE YOU EVEN GET STARTED.
5:24:29PM ONCE A FORMAL DECISION IS ISSUED, HOW LONG DOES SOMEONE HAVE
5:24:35PM TO REBUT THAT?
5:24:36PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YOU HAVE TEN WORKING DAYS, I
5:24:41PM BELIEVE.
5:24:42PM 14 WORKING DAYS.
5:24:43PM AND WORKING DAYS, NOT CALENDAR DAYS.
5:24:46PM SO ALMOST THREE WEEKS.
5:24:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
5:24:49PM THEN THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.
5:24:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
5:24:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: I ALSO WATCHED THE VIDEO AND READ THE
5:24:58PM DOCUMENTS.
5:24:59PM IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE CASE CENTERED AROUND THE DOCUMENT
5:25:04PM THAT WAS PROVIDED FROM 2000.
5:25:07PM AND YOU PRESENTED IT AS FACT.
5:25:11PM HALF OR SO OF THE DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT THE CUSTODY OF THE
5:25:13PM DOCUMENT.
5:25:15PM AND THE PETITIONER TESTIFIED THAT THEY HAD SUBMITTED IT, AND
5:25:20PM THAT THEY FOUND IT IN A BOX, BUT THE CITY DID NOT PRESENT
5:25:24PM ANY TESTIMONY AS TO HAVING FOUND IT IN THEIR FAILS.
5:25:27PM SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY NEW TESTIMONY, EVIDENCE?
5:25:33PM HAS THE CITY DONE ANY KIND OF FORENSIC LOOK TO BE SEE -- I
5:25:37PM DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S KEPT IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE OR REAL
5:25:39PM ESTATE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT IS THERE ANY CITY TESTIMONY
5:25:45PM THAT THAT DOCUMENT EXISTED?
5:25:49PM AND IF NOT WHAT'S THE POLICY OF THE CITY REGARDING CLAIMS BY
5:25:53PM ANY KIND OF PETITIONER IF A DOCUMENT -- IF THERE'S NO RECORD
5:25:57PM OF THE DOCUMENT BY THE CITY?
5:25:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIR.
5:26:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
5:26:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE ASKING QUESTIONS BASED ON YOUR
5:26:07PM REVIEW OF THE HEARING.
5:26:09PM I GUESS MY QUESTION, I GUESS IT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR
5:26:11PM LEGAL.
5:26:12PM YOU ARE STATING RATHER THAN HAVING YOU RESPOND TO THESE, IS
5:26:17PM IT NOT BEST TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND HAVE THE
5:26:20PM EXCEPTIONS HEARD?
5:26:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM ASKING FOR A QUESTION -- A QUESTION
5:26:24PM FROM THE CITY WHICH WAS NOT DISCUSSED BASED ON WHAT I SAW IN
5:26:28PM THE VIDEO.
5:26:29PM HAS THE CITY DONE ANY FORENSIC ANALYSIS OF WHETHER THAT
5:26:32PM DOCUMENT EXISTED?
5:26:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CARLSON, I THINK THAT'S OUTSIDE THE
5:26:39PM SCOPE OF THIS HEARING RIGHT NOW AT THIS TIME BY PRESENTATION
5:26:42PM BY MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ.
5:26:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY QUESTION, WE COULD SEND IT BACK --
5:26:48PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WE COULD REMAND IT.
5:26:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
5:26:51PM AND THE -- IT SEEMS LIKE BETWEEN THAT HEARING AND THIS,
5:26:54PM SOMEBODY IN THE CITY WOULD HAVE DONE A FORENSIC ANALYSIS TO
5:26:58PM SEE IF THE DOCUMENT EVER EXISTED.
5:27:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WOULD BE NEW EVIDENCE IF THAT'S THE
5:27:03PM CASE AND IT'S NOT REALLY APPROPRIATE TO BRING IT UP THAT THE
5:27:05PM POINT IN TIME.
5:27:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REMAND IT.
5:27:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAVE YOU HEARD THE ENTIRE CASE FOR A
5:27:12PM REMAND?
5:27:13PM YOU HAVE TO DO IT WITH SPECIFICITY.
5:27:14PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THERE MAY BE OTHER MATTERS RELATED
5:27:22PM TO THIS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO REMAND FOR.
5:27:24PM SO IT MAY BE WORTHWHILE TO HEAR FROM -- IF IT'S COUNCIL'S
5:27:29PM PLEASURE.
5:27:30PM I MEAN, MR. SHELBY COULD PROVIDE YOU WITH HIS RECOMMENDATION
5:27:32PM ON WHETHER OR NOT SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS AND REQUESTS FOR ORAL
5:27:36PM ARGUMENT SATISFY THE CODE, AND THEN COUNCIL COULD DETERMINE
5:27:39PM WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ORAL ARGUMENT, AND THEN WE
5:27:41PM COULD TAKE ACTION AFTER THAT.
5:27:43PM I AM CERTAINLY HAPPY TO --
5:27:45PM >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.
5:27:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMETIMES IT'S BETTER TO BE SIMPLISTIC.
5:27:57PM CITY ATTORNEY HAS ALREADY SAID THEY RECOMMEND THE REMAND
5:28:01PM BECAUSE THEY FOUND SOME AMBIGUITIES.
5:28:08PM WE ARE WASTING A WHOLE BUNCH OF TIME ON ORAL ARGUMENT WHEN
5:28:11PM YOU ALREADY STATED THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON
5:28:14PM THAN, AND MORE FACT FINDING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
5:28:18PM IT'S CLEAR.
5:28:20PM I HAVE LOOKED AT IT.
5:28:23PM WE TALKED ABOUT Y 6, Y 7.
5:28:26PM TO ME, YC-7 SUPERSEDES YC-6.
5:28:33PM THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS TO ASK.
5:28:34PM AND I DON'T WANT TO WASTE A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, HOW TO
5:28:39PM CRAFT LANGUAGE TO GO TO THEM. IN MY OPINION I AM GOING TO
5:28:42PM SUPPORT IT BE REMANDED BACK TO THE MAGISTRATE TO ASK THOSE
5:28:46PM KIND OF QUESTIONS ABOUT Y 6, Y 7, AND THOSE DOCUMENTS, AND
5:28:51PM THE FACT FINDER ABOUT THE DOCUMENT.
5:28:53PM I MEAN, THAT'S THE BASIS OF THIS WHOLE CASE RIGHT NOW, THE
5:28:57PM IS THE DOCUMENTS.
5:28:59PM ASK THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
5:29:02PM >> COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:29:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I FORGOT MY -- MY LINE IS SIMILAR, MY LINE
5:29:12PM OF QUESTIONING IS SIMILAR TO COUNCIL CARLSON'S IN THAT THIS
5:29:16PM SAYS HERE THAT NO PERSON MAY SUBMIT NEW EVIDENCE.
5:29:19PM I HAVE WATCHED THE VIDEO.
5:29:20PM SO IF YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT YOU CAN'T SUBMIT ANY NEW
5:29:22PM EVIDENCE TONIGHT, THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY FOR THAT LETTER IS
5:29:27PM CRITICAL.
5:29:29PM I NEED TO KNOW IF THE CITY HAS IT.
5:29:31PM AND IF NOT, I MEAN, YOU CAN GO THROUGH IT ALL BUT IT'S NOT
5:29:41PM GOING TO CHANGE THE FACTS.
5:29:42PM IF YOU CAN'T GIVE ME NEW EVIDENCE WE ARE JUST WASTING TIME.
5:29:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING --
5:29:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT WE ARE SAYING, WHAT MR. CARLSON ASKED
5:29:53PM FOR.
5:29:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT ALL?
5:30:01PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
5:30:03PM SO AGAIN, I WOULD ASK IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO REMAND IT
5:30:08PM BACK WITH SPECIFIC INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD -- THAT YOU
5:30:12PM ARE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL FACT FINDING ON SO THAT WE CAN
5:30:15PM DIRECT THE HEARING OFFICER AND DIRECT STAFF IN TERMS OF
5:30:18PM BRINGING THIS BACK TO THE HEARING MASTER FOR FURTHER FACT
5:30:21PM FINDING.
5:30:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:30:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HAS ANYONE TALKED TO GLORIA MOREDA?
5:30:36PM ANYONE?
5:30:37PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SIR, AGAIN --
5:30:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DO WE HAVE CASE OF THE YEAR 2000?
5:30:45PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE
5:30:46PM APPROPRIATE -- I UNDERSTAND, AND I AM WRITING DOWN YOUR
5:30:51PM QUESTIONS.
5:30:51PM THIS IS HELPFUL.
5:30:52PM BUT AGAIN, THE CODE PROHIBITS ANY PERSON INCLUDING ME FROM
5:30:57PM INTRODUCING ANY NEW EVIDENCE INTO THE RECORD AT THIS
5:31:01PM HEARING.
5:31:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS HERE IN 2000.
5:31:10PM I REMEMBER Y 6 AND Y 7 AND I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE
5:31:14PM CONTENTS.
5:31:15PM I WASN'T THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.
5:31:17PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I UNDERSTAND BUT THOSE WERE NOT
5:31:19PM ISSUES RAISED AT THE HEARING OFFICER --
5:31:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU IT.
5:31:25PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: IF YOU WANT US TO EXPLORE, WE
5:31:27PM CERTAINLY CAN.
5:31:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL COMPLAINS WHEN WE
5:31:31PM SPEND A LOT OF TIME ASKING QUESTIONS WHEN WE CAN GET TO THE
5:31:34PM MEAT OF THE MATTER.
5:31:36PM THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE FILING AND FOLLOW THE
5:31:39PM PROCEDURE AND WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR EXCEPTIONS
5:31:41PM HEARD.
5:31:42PM MR. MICHELINI IS ALSO REQUESTED ORAL ARGUMENT WHICH.
5:31:46PM THESE ARE ALL QUESTIONS THAT COULD BE ANSWERED WITH
5:31:49PM SPECIFICITY.
5:31:50PM IF YOU IN FACT FIND, AFTER MY RECOMMENDATION, WHATEVER IT
5:31:54PM IS, THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE ORAL ARGUMENT, AND HEAR WHAT THE
5:31:58PM EXCEPTIONS ARE, AND RATHER THAN RELY ON THE CITY ATTORNEY
5:32:03PM AND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON TESTIMONY THAT YOU HAVE
5:32:06PM NOT YET HEARD, AND CANNOT HEAR BECAUSE YOU CAN'T INTRODUCE
5:32:10PM ANY NEW FINDINGS OF FACT, YOU CAN ONLY GO WHAT THE FINDINGS
5:32:15PM OF FACT ARE IN THE RECORD, WHICH BY THE WAY FOR THE RECORD I
5:32:18PM WANT TO STATE YOU EACH HAVE A PHYSICAL COPY OF THIS ORDER
5:32:21PM NOW WE CAN THE FINDINGS OF FACT, AND YOU ALSO HAVE WHAT WAS
5:32:25PM PROVIDED TO YOU PREVIOUSLY BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE,
5:32:28PM THE RELEVANT SECTIONS OF 27-61, THAT STATES SPECIFICALLY, IN
5:32:33PM THE FINAL ORDER, WHAT YOU MUST DO, AND IT HAS TO BE VERY,
5:32:37PM VERY SPECIFIC.
5:32:38PM AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE VERY SPECIFIC FINDINGS.
5:32:41PM SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO PERHAPS AT PREVIOUS TIMES HAD AN
5:32:47PM OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF
5:32:49PM DOING THAT, THEY ARE HERE NOW AT 5:30 ON A THURSDAY
5:32:54PM AFTERNOON, AFTER A LONG DAY, AND THERE'S QUESTIONS NOW AS TO
5:32:58PM WHETHER THEY WANT TO BE HEARD OR NOT.
5:33:00PM MY SUGGESTION IS, YOU CAN HAVE ALL YOUR QUESTIONS FORMULATED
5:33:04PM AT THE END OF THE PROCESS, AND YOU WILL HAVE A RECORD TO BE
5:33:07PM ABLE TO BRING BACK TO THE HEARING OFFICER TO BE ABLE TO
5:33:09PM ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS.
5:33:11PM THAT'S MY POSITION, AND I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A
5:33:13PM RECOMMENDATION IF YOU WISH TO HEAR IT.
5:33:17PM THANK YOU.
5:33:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO NEW EVIDENCE, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
5:33:25PM ALREADY SAID THERE'S NO NEW EVIDENCE, WE ALL WATCHED THE
5:33:28PM VIDEO, THERE SEEMS TO BE CONSENSUS THAT THE CENTRAL
5:33:30PM DOCUMENT, THAT ONE DOCUMENT, THE CUSTODY OF THAT DOCUMENT,
5:33:33PM AND WHETHER IT EVER EXISTED ON THE CITY SIDE IS THE CENTRAL
5:33:40PM QUESTION TO IT, SO I THINK WE SHOULD REMAND IT.
5:33:43PM WHY GO THROUGH -- AND SAY THE SAME THING THEY SAID AT THE
5:33:48PM OTHER HEARING WHEN WE KNOW THAT DOCUMENT IS CENTRAL TO IT.
5:33:51PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE HEARING MASTER DIDN'T ASK MORE
5:33:55PM QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
5:33:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FINDINGS OF FACT,
5:34:02PM IT'S NOT IN THE FINDINGS OF FACT.
5:34:04PM SO YES, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND, BECAUSE THE WHOLE -- THE
5:34:08PM ENTIRE THING, THE LETTER WASN'T EVEN MENTIONED IN THE
5:34:13PM FINDINGS OF FACT.
5:34:15PM SO BY REMANDING THIS, THE LETTER MENTIONING CONCLUSIONS OF
5:34:21PM NOT AND NOT FINDINGS OF FACT.
5:34:23PM SO THIS IS FRUSTRATING.
5:34:30PM WE CAN'T INTRODUCE NEW EVIDENCE.
5:34:38PM AND, IF YOU WANT TO ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I WOULD
5:34:42PM SPECIFICALLY ASK THEY MENTION THE LETTER IN THE FINDINGS OF
5:34:45PM FACT.
5:34:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
5:34:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST REMAND IT BACK AND ASK THAT THEY
5:34:55PM REVIEW THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY AND GET EVIDENCE AS TO WHETHER
5:35:01PM IT EXISTED IN THE CITY, AND I WOULD SUGGEST, IN ADDITION TO
5:35:05PM THAT, EVIDENCE OF THE OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT
5:35:09PM TESTIFIED WERE MADE, AND THE RESPONSE THAT WAS GIVEN BY THE
5:35:13PM CITY CONFIRMING THAT THOSE WERE MADE AND THAT CHANGES WERE
5:35:16PM MADE, WHICH THEY TESTIFIED TO, AND THAT THE CITY ALSO
5:35:22PM PROVIDE TESTIMONY AS TO WHAT HAPPENS IN A CASE, IF THE CITY
5:35:28PM CANNOT PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THE DOCUMENT EXISTED ON THE
5:35:33PM CITY SIDE, WHAT IS THE PROTOCOL OF THE CITY REGARDING THAT?
5:35:38PM AN EXAMPLE, IF SOMEBODY SAID, I GOT MARRIED TEN YEARS AGO,
5:35:41PM AND YOU LOOK AT THE CLERK OF COURTS AND IT DOESN'T SAY THAT,
5:35:46PM BUT YOU SAY, I SENT THEM A LETTER, DOES THAT COUNT? I DON'T
5:35:49PM KNOW.
5:35:50PM I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
5:35:51PM THAT'S THE QUESTION.
5:35:52PM SO THERE ARE THREE QUESTIONS.
5:35:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING.
5:36:01PM NOT ONLY DO I WANT THE LETTER, BUT I WANT THE SUBSEQUENT
5:36:06PM PROPERTIES THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT THE
5:36:12PM OTHER LETTERS THAT ALSO ASKED FOR THIS SAME REQUEST.
5:36:20PM BECAUSE WE HAVE GOTTEN THAT DOCUMENTATION, BUT THERE ARE
5:36:24PM QUESTIONS SURROUNDING THAT.
5:36:25PM SO I ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT NOT ONLY DO WE WANT
5:36:29PM THE COPIES OF THE LETTERS AND WHEN THEY WERE RECEIVED, BUT
5:36:32PM WHAT TYPE OF RESPONSE DID THE CITY GIVE TO THOSE -- I'M
5:36:40PM SORRY.
5:36:40PM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
5:36:42PM AT WHAT POINT IN TIME IN THE YEAR 2000 WHEN THIS WAS
5:36:46PM INITIALLY CONSIDERED OR WHETHER THIS WAS CONSIDERED IN THE
5:36:49PM APPLICATION PROCESS?
5:36:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN WAS INITIALLY REQUESTED IN 2000,
5:36:55PM SEVERAL LETTERS WERE SENT.
5:36:57PM WE WERE GIVEN TESTIMONY THAT SEVERAL LETTERS WERE SENT.
5:37:03PM BUT I BELIEVE MAYBE SOME OF THOSE, I THINK SOME OF THOSE
5:37:06PM CAME FROM THE CITY AND SOME OF THEM DIDN'T.
5:37:08PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET ALL OF THOSE LETTERS THAT WENT TO
5:37:11PM DIFFERENT FOLLOW OWES.
5:37:12PM ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR?
5:37:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
5:37:15PM THE APPLICANT, AS I REMEMBER, TESTIFIED IN THE HEARING THAT
5:37:20PM HE SENT SIMILAR LETTERS ON OTHER PROPERTIES, AND THE
5:37:26PM EXISTING ZONING WAS RETAINED.
5:37:28PM SO THE CITY MUST HAVE SENT SOME KIND OF RESPONSE TO THAT.
5:37:31PM SO VERIFICATION THAT THOSE OTHER LETTERS EXIST IN THE FILES,
5:37:36PM AND THEN -- AND THIS IS IN 2000, NOT LATER ON --
5:37:40PM VERIFICATION OF THOSE DOCUMENT EXIST IN THE FILE AND THAT
5:37:43PM THE ZONING WASN'T CHANGED.
5:37:44PM THAT'S NOT FROM THE PETITIONER.
5:37:46PM THEY ALREADY TESTIFIED TO THAT.
5:37:47PM THIS IS FROM THE CITY.
5:37:48PM AND THEN THE SAME THING ABOUT THIS LETTER.
5:37:52PM DID THIS LETTER EXIST?
5:37:53PM WAS THERE -- WHATEVER THE CORRESPONDENCE BACK TO THE
5:37:56PM PETITIONER WAS ON THE OTHER CASES THAT THEY REPLIED
5:38:02PM SIMULTANEOUSLY WAS THE RESPONSE BACK TO THE PETITIONER ON
5:38:03PM THIS ONE?
5:38:04PM BECAUSE IF THERE WAS A RESPONSE BUT THE LETTER DOESN'T EXIST
5:38:07PM IN THE FILE, THAT'S WRITTEN EVIDENCE.
5:38:09PM BUT RIGHT NOW, IT SOUNDED LIKE FROM THE HEARING, THE HEARING
5:38:13PM OFFICER ACCEPTED THE LETTER AS FACT, EVEN THOUGH IT ONLY
5:38:19PM EXISTS FROM THE PETITIONER.
5:38:21PM AND SO WE WANT TO LOOK AT EVIDENCE AROUND, OR THE HEARING
5:38:27PM MASTER LOOK AT EVIDENCE AROUND THAT.
5:38:29PM AND THEN THE THIRD THING THAT I SUGGESTED WAS, WHAT IS THE
5:38:34PM POLICY OF THE CITY IF SOMEONE CLAIMS THAT A DOCUMENT EXISTS
5:38:39PM AND TAMPA CITY CAN'T FIND IT?
5:38:41PM DOES THE CITY TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT?
5:38:44PM DO THEY -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESPONSE IS.
5:38:46PM BUT I USE THE EXAMPLE IF SOMEBODY GOT MARRIED, IF SOMEBODY
5:38:49PM SAYS THEY GOT MARRIED AND IT DOESN'T EXIST IN THE CLERK'S
5:38:51PM FILING, BUT SOMEBODY SAYS THEY HAVE A LETTER, DOES THAT
5:38:55PM HELP?
5:38:56PM DOES THE CLERK PUT IT IN THE FILE OR NOT?
5:38:58PM I DON'T KNOW.
5:38:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
5:39:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT POINT UP.
5:39:05PM I CAN'T MAKE ANY NAMES BUT A SAME TYPE OF SITUATION, WE
5:39:11PM CAN'T FIND THINGS, AND SO I SEE THE POINT YOU ARE MAKING.
5:39:15PM BUT I GUESS WITH ME IS, DOES 7 SUPERSEDE 6?
5:39:20PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WELL, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ZONING
5:39:29PM CLASSIFICATIONS.
5:39:30PM AN AREA WIDE REZONING CHANGED SOME PROPERTIES FROM YC-6 TO
5:39:34PM YC-7.
5:39:37PM SO IF THE PROPERTY RETAINED ITS ORIGINAL YC-6 ZONING, THEN
5:39:42PM THEY CAN BE USED TODAY BY RIGHT AS A PARKING LOT.
5:39:47PM HAVING BEEN REZONED TO YC-7, WHICH DID NOT PERMIT PARKS AS A
5:39:54PM PRINCIPAL USE, IT CANNOT BE USED -- IT CANNOT BE USED AS
5:39:58PM PARKING.
5:39:58PM SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
5:40:00PM THEY WOULD ACTUALLY -- AREA WIDE REZONING, AND ADOPTED AN
5:40:05PM ORDINANCE, REZONING.
5:40:10PM OKAY.
5:40:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
5:40:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK, MR. CHAIR, I HEARD THE HEARING
5:40:34PM OFFICER SAY IN THE TESTIMONY THAT, IN SOME OF THE
5:40:37PM QUESTIONING, THAT HE COULD JUST BASED ON VERBAL TESTIMONY,
5:40:40PM MAKE A JUDGMENT ABOUT WHETHER A DOCUMENT EXISTS OR NOT.
5:40:44PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE THAT YOU CAN DO THAT BUT OUR
5:40:47PM SPECIFIC QUESTION IS WE WANT TO SEE THE WRITTEN EVIDENCE, WE
5:40:50PM WANT TO BE SEE THE EVIDENCE AS EXISTED AT THE CITY, NOT THAT
5:40:53PM HE MADE A JUDGMENT AS TO SOMEBODY'S VERBAL TESTIMONY.
5:40:59PM UNDERSTOOD.
5:41:00PM THANK YOU.
5:41:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
5:41:02PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ALREADY MADE.
5:41:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE THAT MOTION STILL ON THE FLOOR.
5:41:14PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
5:41:19PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
5:41:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
5:41:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
5:41:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
5:41:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
5:41:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
5:41:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
5:41:30PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
5:41:34PM ABSENT.
5:41:52PM >> DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT NEGOTIATION AND WE ARE HERE TO
5:41:54PM SPEAK TO THE DECISION OF THE MAGISTRATE AND TO HEAR WHETHER
5:41:58PM OR NOT WE WERE GOING TO HEAR --
5:42:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING POINT.
5:42:01PM ARE YOU THE PETITIONER?
5:42:03PM >> NO, SIR.
5:42:04PM THE PETITIONER IS RIGHT HERE.
5:42:05PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
5:42:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
5:42:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: STUDY WHETHER OR NOT --
5:42:21PM >> BASED ON WHAT RECORD?
5:42:23PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
5:42:29PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
5:42:32PM IT'S COUNCIL'S DISCRETION TO OPEN FOR ORAL ARGUMENT AT THIS
5:42:35PM HEARING OR NOT.
5:42:37PM IT APPEARS THAT COUNCIL -- I ADVISE YOU THAT IN MY INITIAL
5:42:40PM PRESENTATION, IF COUNCIL DECIDED WITHOUT ORAL ARGUMENT TO
5:42:45PM REMAND THE HEARING BACK TO THE HEARING OFFICER SOME HE
5:42:47PM THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT.
5:42:49PM THERE WILL BE AFTER ADDITIONAL FACT FINDING BY THE HEARING
5:42:52PM OFFICER THERE WILL BE A NEW RECOMMENDED ORDER.
5:42:58PM THERE WILL BE A NEW CONSIDERATION FOR THE RECOMMENDED ORDER
5:43:00PM AND ALL THE SAME THINGS, ABILITY TO FILE FOR EXCEPTIONS FROM
5:43:03PM THE RECOMMENDED ORDER AND REQUEST ORAL ARGUMENT AT THAT TIME
5:43:05PM WILL BE AVAILABLE AS THEY WERE TODAY.
5:43:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
5:43:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE CITY ATTORNEY WHO IS
5:43:16PM REPRESENTING CASE TO THIS COUNCIL GAVE THE OPTION OF NOT
5:43:23PM OPENING ORAL ARGUMENT ORB WE DECIDED NOT TO OPEN UP AND
5:43:27PM REMAND?
5:43:30PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: COUNCIL MAY OPEN FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
5:43:33PM IF IT WISHES.
5:43:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
5:43:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I BE HEARD?
5:43:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
5:43:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
5:43:46PM IT SAYS IN HERE, READING FROM 27-61-J-E-2, IT SAYS, THAT THE
5:44:03PM CITY COUNCIL MAY ONLY OPEN PUBLIC DISCUSSION UPON A REQUEST
5:44:05PM FOR ORAL ARGUMENT FILED BY A PARTY OR UPON ITS OWN MOTION.
5:44:13PM NOW THERE, WAS NO MOTION TO OPEN -- I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON
5:44:16PM THAT.
5:44:17PM THERE WAS NO MOTION TO OPEN ORAL ARGUMENT.
5:44:20PM THEREFORE IT WHATS NOT NECESSARY THEN TO REVIEW THE REQUEST
5:44:22PM FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
5:44:23PM IT SAYS THE REQUEST SHALL BE BASED UPON THE CRITERIA
5:44:27PM DESCRIBED IN SUBSECTION 1 ABOVE, THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY
5:44:30PM SHALL REVIEW THE REQUEST ARE FOR ORAL ARGUMENT AND MAKE A
5:44:34PM RECOMMENDATION WHETHER IT MEETS THE CRITERIA.
5:44:37PM THAT WAS DONE BUT I DID NOT MAKE MY REQUEST -- I MEAN, MY
5:44:41PM RECOMMENDATION.
5:44:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
5:44:44PM FOR THE REST OF THE CASES THAT ARE BEING HEARD, THIS
5:44:48PM EVENING, WE HAVE FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS LEFT.
5:44:59PM HERE THIS EVENING.
5:45:01PM AS YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD NEED FOUR VOTES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
5:45:09PM IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBT, PLEASE ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE NOW.
5:45:27PM WE WILL NOW HEAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 85, FILE VAC 22-19.
5:45:33PM >>ROSS SAMMONS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
5:45:42PM PRESENTING FILE VAC 22-19, THE APPLICANT'S NAME IS JAMES AND
5:45:52PM CHRISTINA HENESSEY, 81212 INDIANA AVENUE.
5:45:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SAMMONS, I'M SORRY.
5:46:03PM TO THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT JUST WALKED IN THE DOOR, THE
5:46:08PM REPRESENTATIVE WHO JUST WALKED INTO THIS DOOR, YOU DID HEAR
5:46:11PM MY STATEMENT, THAT WE ONLY HAVE FIVE.
5:46:16PM THERE HAS TO BE FOUR VOTES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
5:46:20PM IF ANYBODY WISHES FOR A CONTINUANCE, ASK IT NOW.
5:46:25PM THANK YOU.
5:46:26PM MR. SAMMONS, PLEASE PROCEED.
5:46:34PM >>SAM THOMAS: NORTH OF OHIO AVENUE, SOUTH OF INDIANA
5:46:40PM AVENUE, EAST OF POPLAR AVENUE, WEST OF MYRTLE AVENUE.
5:46:45PM APPLICATION WAS FILED WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA SEPTEMBER 28,
5:46:48PM 2022, APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE
5:46:51PM ALLEY.
5:46:52PM THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS TO REPAIR,
5:46:57PM CLEAN, OUTGROWTH AND THE ALLEY WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION
5:47:01PM PLAT, EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY, APPROXIMATELY 6,000 SQUARE
5:47:04PM FEET.
5:47:08PM HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE ALLEY.
5:47:12PM THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IN RED AND THE REQUEST TO VACATE IN
5:47:16PM YELLOW.
5:47:26PM CITY OF TAMPA ATLAS MAP SHOWING, AGAIN SHOWN IN RED HERE,
5:47:32PM APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IN GRAY, BLOCK 19, AND SHOWING NO
5:47:40PM PREVIOUS VACATINGS.
5:47:48PM NORTH RIVERSIDE SUBDIVISION PLAT CREATED THE ALLEY, IN RED.
5:48:02PM OF THE APPLICANT APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH ON
5:48:05PM INDIANA AVENUE.
5:48:12PM THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST FROM POPLAR AVENUE.
5:48:21PM AND THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST FROM MYRTLE AVENUE.
5:48:25PM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THE VACATING REQUEST.
5:48:33PM EASEMENT RESERVATION IS NEEDED, MUST COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27
5:48:38PM REGARDING TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN FOR ANY
5:48:41PM IMPROVEMENTS PLACED ADJACENT TO TREES IN THE VACATED AREA.
5:48:45PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
5:48:46PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
5:48:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
5:48:51PM HUSAIN.
5:48:54PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
5:48:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
5:49:00PM PUT THE PICTURE UP OF THE ALLEY AGAIN.
5:49:07PM >> THE ALLEY FROM MYRTLE AVENUE.
5:49:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
5:49:21PM PETITIONER.
5:49:22PM >> JAMES ACCARDI, 812 WEST -- HENESSEY.
5:49:34PM I THINK WE ARE RUNNING INTO A PRETTY SIMILAR SITUATION AS
5:49:37PM THE CASE 84.
5:49:40PM I HAVE ON INSTRUCTIONS ON BOTH SIDES OF MY PROPERTY.
5:49:42PM AND THE INTENT WAS TO GET THE VACATED PROPERTY BEHIND.
5:49:48PM IT SEEMS THAT MOST NEIGHBORS IN THAT TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT
5:49:52PM OF ME HAVE DONE THAT IN SOME WAY SHAPE AND FORM BUT I THINK
5:49:55PM WE ARE RUNNING INTO A SIMILAR CONTINUANCE SITUATION WHERE WE
5:49:58PM WOULD HAVE ALL PARTIES INVOLVED, PROBABLY ON THE SAME CASE
5:50:01PM DATE, THAT 11-17.
5:50:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
5:50:10PM >> SO THE INTENT IS TO GET THE PROPERTY BEHIND THE ALLEYWAY
5:50:15PM THAT'S OBSTRUCTED ON BOTH SIDE.
5:50:17PM THAT IS NOT AN ALLEYWAY ANYMORE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT GO EAST
5:50:21PM AND WEST.
5:50:24PM BUT WE DO RUN INTO A SIMILAR SITUATION.
5:50:27PM IT WOULD BE 12 FEET, OBSTRUCTIONS ON ALL SIDES, WHOSE
5:50:32PM PROPERTY IS IT, UP TO ME AND THE PERSON BEHIND US?
5:50:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF WE VACATED THE ALLEY WE WOULD SIMPLY GET
5:50:40PM THE 6 FEET BEHIND YOUR PROPERTY.
5:50:43PM >> OKAY.
5:50:44PM JUST THE 6 FEET BEHIND 812.
5:50:47PM GREAT.
5:50:47PM THERE WAS NO OBJECTION TO THE STAFF REPORT.
5:50:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM YOUR
5:50:56PM NEIGHBORS?
5:50:57PM >> ACTUALLY, THEY WERE ALL POSITIVE.
5:50:59PM SO IT WAS BASICALLY TURNED INTO GREEN SPACE SO THERE WERE NO
5:51:05PM OBJECTIONS TO CLEANING IT UP.
5:51:06PM >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
5:51:09PM >> MYRTLE IS RIGHT OFF OF COLUMBUS DRIVE SOMEWHERE?
5:51:17PM >> YES.
5:51:17PM WOULD RUN YOU ALL THE WAY TO MLK.
5:51:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NORTH AND SOUTH.
5:51:24PM >> CORRECT.
5:51:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES
5:51:27PM TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 85?
5:51:30PM IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE?
5:51:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
5:51:33PM >> SECOND.
5:51:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:51:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:51:39PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
5:51:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
5:51:45PM VAC 22-19.
5:51:47PM ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERS, AN
5:51:51PM ORDINANCE.
5:51:51PM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING,
5:51:54PM ABANDONING THAT ALLEYWAY LOCATED NORTH OF OHIO AVENUE, SOUTH
5:51:58PM OF INDIANA AVENUE, EAST OF POPLAR AVENUE AND WEST OF MYRTLE
5:52:03PM AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF NORTH RIVERSIDE IN THE CITY OF
5:52:07PM TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED
5:52:11PM IN SECTION 2 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS
5:52:14PM AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN
5:52:17PM PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS
5:52:20PM PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING
5:52:23PM CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
5:52:25PM DATE.
5:52:25PM >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN
5:52:27PM HURTAK. ROLL CALL VOTE.
5:52:30PM (ROLL CALL)
5:52:32PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA AND
5:52:34PM CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
5:52:36PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
5:52:38PM 17th, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
5:52:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:52:43PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 86, FILE VAC 22-24.
5:52:47PM >>ROSS SAMMONS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
5:52:54PM FILE VAC 22-24.
5:53:02PM ASHLEY GLEN LAND HOLDINGS LLC.
5:53:06PM THE GENERAL LOCATION IS 911 WEST CYPRESS STREET.
5:53:13PM THIS IS THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE ALLEY
5:53:16PM NORTH OF CASS STREET, SOUTH OF LASALLE STREET, NORTH OF CASS
5:53:21PM STREET, EAST OF DELAWARE AVENUE AND WEST OF NORTH BOULEVARD.
5:53:25PM THE APPLICATION WAS FILED ON JULY 14, 2022.
5:53:31PM REASONS FOR THE APPLICATION IS THE ADDITIONAL AREA IN THE
5:53:34PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR AREA 22-42.
5:53:37PM EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 4,900 SQUARE FEET.
5:53:47PM THE PROPERTY, THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IN RED, AND THE
5:53:52PM PORTION OF ARCH STREET HERE IN YELLOW.
5:53:57PM AND A PORTION OF NORTH EDISON AVENUE IN YELLOW HERE.
5:54:01PM SOUTH OF LEMON STREET. TO THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST CASS.
5:54:18PM AGAIN, CITY OF TAMPA SHEET PROPOSED VACATING, IN PINK HERE,
5:54:24PM PORTION OF ARCH STREET, IN BETWEEN MUNRO AND NORTH
5:54:28PM BOULEVARD.
5:54:31PM AND THIS SECTION OF EDISON, SOUTH OF LEMON STREET AND NORTH
5:54:37PM OF CASS.
5:54:48PM HERE IS A PICTURE OF EDISON AVENUE LOOKING NORTH ON CASS
5:54:51PM STREET.
5:54:52PM THIS IS THE GENERAL AREA OF THE REQUESTED VACATING.
5:55:07PM EDISON AVENUE LOOKING SOUTH FROM LEMON STREET.
5:55:10PM AGAIN HERE.
5:55:12PM THE GENERAL AREA OF THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST AND THE
5:55:15PM APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS HERE.
5:55:24PM ARCH STREET LOOKING EAST FROM MUNRO STREET.
5:55:28PM A PORTION OF THIS PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS HERE AND
5:55:33PM APPLICANT'S PROPERTY FROM MUNRO STREET TO NORTH BOULEVARD.
5:55:46PM THIS IS ARCH STREET LOOKING WEST TO NORTH BOULEVARD.
5:55:51PM AGAIN A PORTION OF THE AREA, THE PROPOSED VACATING FROM
5:55:54PM NORTH BOULEVARD TO MUNRO.
5:55:56PM STAFF DOES OBJECT TO THIS VACATING REQUEST. EASEMENT
5:56:09PM RESERVATIONS ARE NEEDED OVERALL FOR TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY,
5:56:11PM STORMWATER, TECO, PEOPLE'S GAS, SPECTRUM AND FRONTIER.
5:56:16PM NATURAL RESOURCES, COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27, TREE
5:56:21PM PRESERVATION, SITE DESIGN FOR ANY IMPROVEMENT PLACED
5:56:23PM ADJACENT TO TREES IN THE VACATED AREA.
5:56:25PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
5:56:27PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
5:56:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
5:56:32PM PETITIONER.
5:56:39PM >>CATHERINE COYLE: URBAN PLANNING INNOVATIONS, 5312 NORTH
5:56:43PM SUWANNEE.
5:56:44PM JUST FOR CONTEXT, THE REZONING THAT YOU APPROVED ON THE
5:56:48PM SECOND READING EARLIER TODAY, THE OAKHURST DEVELOPMENT, THIS
5:56:53PM IS THE PORTION ALONG ARCH, AND THIS IS THE PORTION ALONG
5:56:56PM EDISON.
5:56:57PM GRAPHICALLY ON THE REZONINGS, ON THE REZONING, THE PLAN
5:57:01PM ITSELF THAT YOU JUST APPROVED, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY SHOWN AND
5:57:04PM THERE WAS A NOTED THAT WE AGREED TO ON THE PLAN THAT
5:57:07PM RECOGNIZED THAT WHEN THE VACATING GOES THROUGH, WE ALSO
5:57:13PM INCLUDED IN THE ROADWAY AGREEMENT THAT WE AGREED TO
5:57:16PM GENERATED WITHIN 120 DAYS.
5:57:20PM THAT WAS A CONDITION ON THE REZONING AS WELL.
5:57:22PM THE STRIPS OF LAND ARE APPROXIMATELY 4.95 FEET IN WIDTH, AND
5:57:27PM WE HAVE AGREED TO RESERVE ALL THE EASEMENT AS WE DID WITH
5:57:31PM THE OTHER PORTIONS THAT WERE VACATED TO SQUARE OFF THE
5:57:34PM BLOCKS.
5:57:34PM FULL EASEMENTS FOR MOBILITY, ROADWAY, TRANSPORTATION,
5:57:38PM STORMWATER.
5:57:40PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
5:57:44PM THIS IS REALLY JUST TO CLEAN UP THE PIECE THAT WAS LEFT OVER
5:57:47PM FROM THE REZONING.
5:57:48PM >> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
5:57:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I JUST SAY SOMETHING?
5:57:59PM IT WILL BE THE SAME THING IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION?
5:58:02PM >>CATHERINE COYLE: CORRECT.
5:58:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
5:58:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK TO
5:58:07PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 86?
5:58:09PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
5:58:12PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:58:14PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:58:15PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:58:18PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:58:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE VAC 22-24, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
5:58:23PM FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
5:58:26PM TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND
5:58:29PM ABANDONING THOSE PORTIONS OF ARCH STREET AND EDISON AVENUE
5:58:33PM RIGHTS-OF-WAY LOCATED NORTH OF CASS STREET, SOUTH OF LASALLE
5:58:39PM STREET, NORTH OF CASS STREET, WITHIN THE PERHAPS OF MUNRO
5:58:46PM AND KNOWLES SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH
5:58:50PM COUNTY FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF
5:58:53PM SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS,
5:58:57PM AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR
5:59:00PM ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR
5:59:03PM DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICTS,
5:59:06PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
5:59:07PM >> SECOND.
5:59:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
5:59:12PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:59:14PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
5:59:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
5:59:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
5:59:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
5:59:20PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
5:59:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
5:59:23PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON AND
5:59:26PM VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
5:59:27PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
5:59:29PM 17th, 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
5:59:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:59:34PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 87.
5:59:37PM FILE SUB-22-10-C.
5:59:42PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: FILE SUB 22-10 IS REGARDING THE
5:59:51PM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1280 EAST HARRISON STREET.
5:59:56PM THIS IS REGARDING THE PETITION FOR REVIEW THAT WAS FILED BY
5:59:59PM THE AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.
6:00:02PM THE AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR THE PROPERTY HAS REQUESTED STAFF TO
6:00:07PM ALLOW FOR HEIGHT FOR LOTS 5 AND 12 LOCATED WITHIN THE ENCORE
6:00:13PM DEVELOPMENT TO BE DEVELOPED PURSUANT TO FA AND CA HEIGHT
6:00:19PM LIMITATIONS AND UPDATE THE PROJECT DECISION IN ZONING SITE
6:00:23PM PLAN NOTES TO REFLECT THIS ALLOWANCE.
6:00:25PM STAFF DETERMINED THAT THE REQUEST MEATS THE CRITERIA FOR
6:00:29PM SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE AND DENIED THE REQUEST.
6:00:34PM WE HAVE PROVIDED CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROVIDED THE
6:00:37PM RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS WHICH IS 27-138 SUBSECTION 7 AND
6:00:42PM 27-61, ALONG WITH SAMPLE MOTIONS AND THE RULES OF PROCEDURE
6:00:47PM FOR CITY COUNCIL TO CONDUCT THIS HEARING.
6:00:51PM THE STANDARD REVIEW REGARDING THIS PETITION FOR REVIEW IS
6:00:54PM ACCORDING TO FOUND IN SECTION 27-61, SUBSECTION J,
6:01:00PM SUBSECTION 3, WHICH STATES THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN CONDUCT A
6:01:04PM DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW, WHICH MEANS CITY COUNCIL CAN
6:01:08PM ACCEPT NEW EVIDENCE, TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY, AND MAKE A
6:01:11PM DECISION TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE PETITION DOES MEAT
6:01:16PM THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE CRITERIA OUTLINED IN CODE SECTION
6:01:20PM 27-130 SUBSECTION 7.
6:01:23PM THE STAFF MEMBER PRESENT TO EXPLAIN THE REQUEST FOUND THE
6:01:27PM PROPERTY OWNER, LACHONE DOCK, SHE IS PRESENT.
6:01:31PM SHE WILL GO OVER THE APPLICATION, AND HER DECISION REGARDING
6:01:34PM THIS ITEM.
6:01:35PM AFTER CITY COUNCIL HEARS ALL OF THE EVIDENCE REGARDING THIS
6:01:39PM ITEM, CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION BY STAFF AND
6:01:43PM THEREBY DENY THE REQUEST FOR THE PROPOSED CHANGE IN SUB
6:01:48PM 22-10, OR CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION BY STAFF
6:01:52PM AND THEREBY GRANT THE REQUEST FOR THE PROPOSED CHANGE IN
6:01:56PM SUB-22-10.
6:01:58PM AND THE PROPOSED CHANGES ARE REGARDING REZ 14-020.
6:02:04PM AND WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MS. DOCK.
6:02:07PM >>LACHONE DOCK: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
6:02:13PM LACHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
6:02:16PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU THE PRESENTATION FOR THIS
6:02:22PM ITEM.
6:02:23PM SO AS CAMARIA MENTIONED, THIS IS AN APPEAL HEARING OF A
6:02:28PM SUBSTANTIAL REVIEW CHANGE DECISION.
6:02:30PM THE APPLICANT IS JAKE CREMER, AND THE REQUEST IS A REVIEW OF
6:02:38PM SECTION 27-138.
6:02:40PM THIS IS FOR THE ENCORE PROPERTY WHICH I WILL SHOW YOU
6:02:44PM SHORTLY.
6:02:45PM I HAVE AN AERIAL OF THE PROJECT AREA.
6:02:47PM AND THIS IS TO ALLOW THE HEIGHT TO BE DETERMINED PURSUANT TO
6:02:52PM FAA AND HCAA LIMITATIONS, AND THAT IS FOR THE TWO LOTS, LOTS
6:02:57PM 5 AND 12 WHICH I WILL SHOW YOU NOW.
6:03:02PM AND ALSO TO UPDATE THE ASSOCIATED VISION GROWTH SITE PLAN
6:03:05PM WHICH RUNS ALONG WITH THE CURRENT PD.
6:03:09PM SO THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SITE.
6:03:13PM AND THIS IS THE LOTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN RED, ARE A PART
6:03:19PM OF THE PROJECT AREA.
6:03:23PM THIS IS NUCCIO AVENUE ON THE SOUTH.
6:03:25PM CENTRAL ON THE WEST.
6:03:26PM THIS IS NEBRASKA AVENUE WHICH BORDERS ON THE EAST.
6:03:28PM AND I HAVE IDENTIFIED EACH LOT THAT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE
6:03:33PM PROJECT AREA.
6:03:35PM THOSE ARE TWO LOTS WHICH ARE UNDER THIS REQUEST, LOTS 5 AND
6:03:38PM LOT 12.
6:03:39PM AND THEN ALSO YOU CAN SEE THAT BE THIS IS BOUNDED BY THE
6:03:43PM CBD, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
6:03:45PM YOU CAN SEE THE CBD2 AND CBD1 DESIGNATION, BUT AS A MATTER
6:03:51PM OF FACT LOT 10 HAS A DUAL ZONING WITH THE SOUTHERN END BEING
6:03:56PM LOCATED IN THE CDB 2 SPECIAL DISTRICT.
6:04:01PM WHAT I PROVIDED NEXT FOR YOU, COUNCIL, IS A CHART JUST TO
6:04:04PM SHOW YOU THE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE PROJECT.
6:04:07PM SO THE REQUESTED HEIGHT JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE, IT WOULD
6:04:10PM APPLY ONLY TO THOSE TWO LOTS 5 AND 12.
6:04:14PM THOSE ARE THE TWO VACANT LOTS WITHIN THE PROJECT AREA.
6:04:17PM THE OTHER LOTS BEING DEVELOPED, THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR
6:04:22PM DEVELOPMENT.
6:04:24PM LOT 8 HAS ITS ENTITLEMENT, IMPLEMENTAL REVIEW.
6:04:29PM LOT 10 IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS SEEKING PERMITS.
6:04:34PM SO IF GRANTED, IT WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THOSE VACANT LOTS.
6:04:40PM AND I HAVE SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE.
6:04:46PM IN THE UPPER LEFT, YOU CAN SEE URBAN FARM, THAT'S LOT 1.
6:04:51PM AND THEN IN THE UPPER RIGHT IS LOT 2 AND 3.
6:04:55PM IN THE LOWER LEFT CORNER WE HAVE LOTS 7 AND 9 RESPECTIVELY.
6:05:00PM AND LOT 6 IS THE MIDDLE PORTION OF THE PROJECT.
6:05:05PM AND THEN WE HAVE LOT 4 AND 11.
6:05:08PM THAT'S LOT 4 AND THAT'S LOT 11.
6:05:11PM SO THE LOTS THAT ARE IN QUESTION ARE BEHIND THESE LOTS.
6:05:18PM NEXT FOR YOU I HAVE BLOWN UP THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN, THE
6:05:21PM APPROVED PD PLAN.
6:05:23PM SO THE ENCORE DEVELOPMENT CONTAINS 28 ACRES.
6:05:27PM WHAT I PROVIDED FOR YOU IS THE DETAIL OF THE LOTS THAT ARE
6:05:31PM INCLUDED WITHIN THE -- THE LOTS WHICH ARE IDENTIFIED IN
6:05:35PM GREEN HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED.
6:05:37PM THE LOTS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW 5 AND 12 ON
6:05:42PM NEBRASKA.
6:05:42PM THOSE ARE THE VACANT LOTS IN THE LOTS THAT ARE UNDER THIS
6:05:45PM REQUEST.
6:05:46PM THIS IS THE LOT 150, THE ONE THAT I MENTIONED THAT HAS THE
6:05:49PM DUAL ZONING ON IT.
6:05:50PM LOT 8 AND 10 ARE ALREADY IN PROBLEM SEES FOR PERMITTING.
6:05:56PM HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED APPROVAL.
6:06:01PM UNDER CONSIDERATION STAFF REVIEWED THE HISTORY OF THE
6:06:04PM APPROVALS WITH THE REZONINGS ON THE ENCORE DEVELOPMENT SITE.
6:06:08PM WE LOOKED AT THE SITE PLAN NOTE AS IT WAS INITIALLY APPROVED
6:06:12PM WITH THE FIRST APPROVAL FOR THE REZONING.
6:06:15PM THE NOTE ORIGINALLY MENTIONED A BUILDING HIGHLIGHT FOR LOTS
6:06:18PM 9 AND 10 WOULD BE GOVERNED BY THE FAA AND THE HCAA, AND THEN
6:06:23PM IT ALSO REFERENCES AS FAR AS THE HEIGHT WITHIN THE SITE PLAN
6:06:27PM ITSELF EACH LOT LISTS THE HEIGHT.
6:06:31PM SO YOU CAN SEE JUST TO GO BACK JUST A SECOND, YOU CAN SEE ON
6:06:35PM THE SITE PLAN EACH LOT ON SOME OF THE LOT SIZE, SO THAT WAS
6:06:42PM THE 13.
6:06:47PM SO IN 2007, THERE WAS A SITE PLAN NOTE THAT MENTIONED THE
6:06:51PM MAXIMUM HEIGHT AS GOVERNED BY THE FAA, AND THE HCAA, AND
6:06:55PM THEN THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS ALSO SHOWN BY LOT ON THE SITE
6:06:59PM PLAN.
6:07:00PM THERE WAS JUST IN TWO PLACES ON THE CURRENT APPROVAL AND 14,
6:07:04PM AND STAFF FELT THAT WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT IS
6:07:08PM CLARIFIED, THAT THEY CANNOT DO THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY.
6:07:13PM JUST TO SUMMARIZE ON THE SITE PLAN, THE REMAINING
6:07:15PM UNDEVELOPED LOTS WITHIN THE PROJECT, JUST LOT 5 AND 12 ARE
6:07:21PM THE TWO VACANT LOTS, BUT CURRENTLY ON THE PLAN.
6:07:24PM THEY HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 80 FEET AND THEN 100 FEET FOR
6:07:28PM LOT 12.
6:07:37PM SO WHEN THE REQUEST WAS NOTICED, PUBLIC NOTICE WAS PROVIDED,
6:07:43PM STAFF RECEIVED NO OBJECTIONS, ARC REVIEW RECEIVED NO
6:07:46PM OBJECTIONS.
6:07:48PM WE REVIEWED THE PRIOR APPROVALS MENTIONED EARLIER.
6:07:51PM THE ONLY OPTION WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THOSE TWO LOTS FOR THE
6:07:55PM DEVELOPER, THE APPLICANT TO COME IN, AND REZONE TO ANOTHER
6:07:58PM PD, WHICH WOULD HAVE SPLIT THE PROJECT.
6:08:01PM AND STAFF DID NOT FEEL THAT THOSE TWO LOTS SHOULD HAVE ITS
6:08:06PM OWN PD DESIGNATION.
6:08:08PM IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO KEEP THE PROJECT WHOLE IN ONE.
6:08:13PM SO WE TOOK ALL OF THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT STAFF
6:08:17PM HAS NO OBJECTIONS.
6:08:19PM WE ARE IN SUPPORT.
6:08:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU THAT, IF I MAY,
6:08:23PM MR. CHAIRMAN.
6:08:24PM SO YOU LOOK STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THEIR REQUEST?
6:08:29PM >> WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THEIR MODIFICATION, YES.
6:08:32PM AND THAT CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION, COUNCIL.
6:08:35PM I KNOW IT'S LATE BUT I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY
6:08:37PM QUESTIONS.
6:08:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, IT'S EARLY.
6:08:39PM [ LAUGHTER ]
6:08:46PM WE HAVE ALL NIGHT.
6:08:47PM >> I'M SORRY.
6:08:51PM ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
6:08:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CREMER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
6:09:07PM >> JAKE CREMER, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET HERE REPRESENTING
6:09:14PM DEVELOPMENT AND PATEL FAMILY OFFICE, THEY ARE THE
6:09:16PM DEVELOPERS.
6:09:17PM THE BAD NEWS IS YOU AREN'T GOING TO TALK TO LEE ROY MARCH
6:09:21PM FROM HOUSING AUTHORITY TONIGHT.
6:09:22PM HE HAD TO LEAVE FOR A BOARD MEETING.
6:09:24PM HE WAS HERE IN SUPPORT.
6:09:25PM THE GOOD NEWS IS I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A FULL
6:09:28PM PRESENTATION BECAUSE OF THE LATE HOUR.
6:09:31PM THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE DEVELOPER
6:09:35PM THAT IS VERY, VERY EXCITING.
6:09:37PM WE ARE COMPLETING THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE ENCORE PROJECT.
6:09:40PM WE ARE BRINGING MIXED USE, MIXED INCOME, AND A GROCERY
6:09:45PM STORE.
6:09:47PM SO I JUST WANT HIM TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE PROJECT.
6:09:50PM HE WORKED REALLY HARD ON IT.
6:09:51PM >> MY NAME IS -- FROM THE PATEL FAMILY OFFICE.
6:09:55PM I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT JAKE IS SAYING IN ALIGNMENT WITH
6:09:59PM DR. PATEL.
6:10:01PM AND HIS ACCESS IN SO MANY WAYS AND A LOT OF WHAT WE SEE,
6:10:08PM MEDICAL EDUCATION, CREATES ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, AND THEN
6:10:12PM IN THIS KIND OF PROJECT, IT'S ACCESS TO HOME OWNERSHIP IN
6:10:17PM THE FORM OF MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
6:10:20PM IT IS A GROCERY STORE, SO IT'S AN INDEPENDENT CONCEPT.
6:10:25PM IT'S TAILORED TO THE AREA.
6:10:27PM HE FEELS PRETTY STRONGLY THAT THE DOWNTOWN GROWTH WILL BE
6:10:30PM THE CENTRAL PART AND KIND OF FUTURE AND HE WILL MARRY THE
6:10:35PM ENTIRE KIND OF TAMPA DOWNTOWN AREA.
6:10:37PM WHAT WE SEE NOW IS IT IS EXTENDING NORTH, AND REALLY
6:10:41PM CONTRIBUTES DO THAT.
6:10:42PM AND THEN THERE'S ABOUT 80,000 SQUARE FEET OF MEDICAL OFFICE
6:10:46PM BUILDING.
6:10:47PM IN EVERY WAY IT'S A CENTRAL ACCESS FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED,
6:10:50PM KIND OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY TO BE CATERED TO AND TO HAVE
6:10:53PM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE EQUAL, IN HOW THEY LIVE AND HOW THEY
6:10:58PM ARE PROVIDED CARE.
6:10:59PM THE OTHER THING, AS WE SEE WITH A LARGE EXODUS OF WORKFORCE,
6:11:06PM TEACHERS, HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS, CAN'T AFFORD, SO THEIR
6:11:10PM INTENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS ALSO THAT THE OWNERSHIP
6:11:14PM OPPORTUNITY AT A LOWER ENTRY RATE.
6:11:16PM THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AT.
6:11:18PM AND I WILL STOP.
6:11:22PM >> JAKE: SO WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT.
6:11:26PM THE VOTE WOULD BE TO OVERTURN THE STAFF DECISION WITH STAFF
6:11:32PM SUPPORT.
6:11:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:11:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OBJECTION IN
6:11:39PM THE AUDIENCE, IS THERE?
6:11:41PM >> NO.
6:11:42PM AND WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE PUBLIC.
6:11:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS THE MOST UNIQUE EVER, BECAUSE
6:11:50PM OVERTURN THE CITY STAFF AND THE CITY IS STAFF IS SAYING THEY
6:11:54PM ARE FOR IT.
6:11:55PM SO I FEEL LIKE I AM JUGGLING IN A CIRCUS.
6:11:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST A COMMENT.
6:12:03PM GLAD TO SEE THIS.
6:12:04PM WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS.
6:12:07PM ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.
6:12:08PM YOU MENTIONED SEA CHANGE FROM MEDICAL, TO AFFORDABLE ISSUE
6:12:14PM EVERYWHERE.
6:12:15PM AND OF COURSE YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL
6:12:19PM NEIGHBORHOOD WITH GROCERY AND FRESH FOOD.
6:12:24PM THE CHANNELSIDE PUBLIX NEARBY, BE PEOPLE CAN WALK A FEW
6:12:30PM STEPS TO A GROCERY STORE.
6:12:31PM SO GREAT.
6:12:32PM GREAT PROJECT.
6:12:33PM THANK YOU.
6:12:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
6:12:35PM COUNCILMAN GUDES?
6:12:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT'S THE GROCERY STORE?
6:12:42PM >> ON THE MIXED USE, TALKING ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE?
6:12:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RANGE.
6:12:49PM >> RANGE.
6:12:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU SAID MIXED USE.
6:12:57PM >> THE WAY IT HAS BEEN SOCIALIZED IN OUR CONVERSATION, IT
6:13:02PM CAN'T BE SOMETHING LIKE A WALMART OR GREEN.
6:13:05PM JUST IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING, SO WE
6:13:09PM DID DUE DILIGENCE OF GETTING AN INDEPENDENT GROCER THAT WILL
6:13:12PM SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN A BROAD WAY AND DR. PATEL HAS TAKEN
6:13:17PM IT UPON HIMSELF TO SAY, HEY, WORST-CASE SCENARIO IS I WILL
6:13:20PM DO IT MYSELF.
6:13:21PM SO WE DO HAVE -- NOT GOING TO BE THERE AS THE CASHIER.
6:13:26PM JUST PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
6:13:27PM SO IT WILL BE AN INDEPENDENT GROCER.
6:13:29PM IT WILL BE ABOUT 24,000 SQUARE FEET ON THE GROUND FLOOR,
6:13:32PM ABOUT EIGHT STORIES.
6:13:34PM THAT'S THE PODIUM.
6:13:36PM AND THEN RESIDENTIAL ABOVE IT.
6:13:37PM THE TOP TWO FLOORS AS IT'S MAPPED OUT OF THE PODIUM WILL BE
6:13:42PM MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AND IT WILL ALL BE MEDICAL ACCESS.
6:13:47PM SO WE HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN QUITE A BIT -- WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW
6:13:51PM WE ARE GOING TO ALLOCATE THAT.
6:13:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE REASON I ASKED THAT, ALL THE PROPERTY
6:13:56PM OF ENCORE, SO PEOPLE ARE ASKING, I MEAN, SAY 120?
6:14:05PM TALKING ABOUT THIS LEVEL OF MIXED USE.
6:14:07PM I'M JUST CURIOUS.
6:14:10PM >> SO I THINK RIGHT NOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONVEYANCE OF
6:14:17PM REAL PROPERTY IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA, IT'S LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS
6:14:21PM FOR A CONDO, A SQUARE FOOT.
6:14:24PM SO THAT'S ABOUT WHAT IT IS FOR THE NEW BUILD?
6:14:29PM RITZ CARLTON, THINGS LIKE THAT.
6:14:30PM BUT OUR GOAL IS TO GET VERY LOW ENTRY POINT BY REDUCING THE
6:14:39PM SIZE.
6:14:40PM IT'S NOT -- THERE'S A PROJECT IN MIAMI THAT WE MODELED IT
6:14:47PM OFF OF CALLED LEGACY, INCREDIBLY EFFICIENT.
6:14:50PM HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH YOU.
6:14:52PM THERE'S NO WASTED SPACE IN THE UNITS.
6:14:55PM THERE'S ABOUT 220 UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE -- THEY ARE NOT
6:14:59PM MICRO BUT IT'S SMALLER IN SIZE, VERY CLOSE, BUT IT'S 600
6:15:02PM SQUARE FEET.
6:15:04PM AND SOME OF THE UNITS, THEY DID A REALLY GREAT JOB BUT THEY
6:15:10PM ARE LIKE $4 A SQUARE FOOT FOR RENT AND PEOPLE NEVER OWN THE
6:15:14PM PROPERTY.
6:15:15PM IN BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS WE FOUND A LOT OF ENERGY.
6:15:21PM >> WE HAVE A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION ON LOT 5 TO PROVIDE AT
6:15:25PM LEAST 20% OF THOSE UNITS TO BE BETWEEN 60 AND 20% AMI.
6:15:32PM SO THAT'S A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION.
6:15:35PM AND WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO BETTER THAN THAT.
6:15:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOW MANY FLOORS?
6:15:41PM EIGHT FLOORS?
6:15:42PM APARTMENTS OR SIX FLOORS OF APARTMENTS?
6:15:43PM >> NO, THE PODIUM, SO IT WILL BE CLOSE TO 220, PROBABLY 19,
6:15:50PM 20 FLOORS TO THE INCLUDING THE PODIUM.
6:15:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
6:15:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CAN'T GO MUCH HIGHER THEN.
6:15:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL DEAL WITH THAT NEXT WEEK.
6:16:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
6:16:11PM QUICK QUESTION.
6:16:12PM FAA WAS INVOLVED IN TAMPA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT?
6:16:20PM >> I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
6:16:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FAA, WHY WERE THEY INVOLVED?
6:16:28PM >> WHAT WAS THE FAA INVOLVED?
6:16:30PM BECAUSE HCCA HAS AIRPORT ZONING.
6:16:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE QUESTION WAS 90 EAST.
6:16:36PM WAS IT IN THE FLIGHT PATH FOR 90 EAST?
6:16:39PM EAST-WEST RUNWAY?
6:16:42PM THEY ARE IN THAT FLIGHT PATH, AREN'T THEY?
6:16:46PM >> LAND PLANNER.
6:16:47PM HE HAS BEEN INVOLVED SING SINCE THE BEGINNING.
6:16:50PM I THINK HE CAN ANSWER THAT.
6:16:51PM >> DAVID SMITH, SO IF YOU DO ANY APPLICATION THAT INVOLVES
6:16:58PM ANY HEIGHT, THE AVIATION AUTHORITY GETS INVOLVED.
6:17:00PM THEY BASICALLY JUST IDENTIFY WHAT THE RUNWAY PATH IS THAT
6:17:05PM THEY ARE CONCERNED WITH.
6:17:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 90 EAST IS WHAT I WAS CONCERNED WITH.
6:17:09PM >> THERE'S BASICALLY A HEIGHT NOTICE ZONE, SO EVERYTHING
6:17:13PM LIKE ANYTHING OVER 130 FEET THEY GET NOTICED, THEN YOU MAKE
6:17:17PM AN APPLICATION, AND THEN THEY DETERMINE WITH FAA THE HEIGHT.
6:17:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.
6:17:22PM THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT.
6:17:24PM 90 EAST.
6:17:25PM THANK YOU.
6:17:25PM ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
6:17:26PM IS THERE ANYBODY?
6:17:28PM YOU STAY RATE WHERE YOU ARE AT.
6:17:30PM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HAS COMMENTS OR
6:17:33PM QUESTIONS?
6:17:34PM IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE?
6:17:36PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
6:17:38PM >> SECOND.
6:17:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:17:41PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
6:17:42PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:17:45PM IS IT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
6:17:50PM YES.
6:17:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
6:17:57PM THERE'S A MOTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO OVERTURN THE
6:17:59PM DENIAL, THEREFORE GRANTING THIS, WHICH IS FAIL SUB-22-10-C.
6:18:08PM I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF THE
6:18:11PM PROPOSED CHANGE REQUEST IN 22-10 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
6:18:15PM 1280 EAST HARRISON STREET BECAUSE THE PETITIONER HAS
6:18:18PM DEMONSTRATED THAT THE APPLICATION IS NOT A SUBSTANTIAL
6:18:22PM CHANGE ACCORDING TO THE STANDARD SET FORTH HEREIN IN SECTION
6:18:26PM 27-138-7 BUT ALSO HEARING FROM THE CITY THERE WERE NO
6:18:32PM OBJECTIONS, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC OBJECTION, AND I
6:18:35PM BELIEVE THAT THEY MEET THE MAKEUP AND CHARACTER OF THE
6:18:39PM ENCORE DISTRICT AS WELL AS MEET THE GOALS OF THE ENCORE
6:18:42PM DISTRICT IN THE SENSE THAT IT WILL BE PROVIDING COMMUNITY
6:18:48PM AMENITIES, MUCH NEEDED HOUSING, AND A HEY QUALITY PRODUCT
6:18:56PM THAT WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF.
6:18:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:18:59PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:19:02PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
6:19:03PM SORRY.
6:19:04PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
6:19:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
6:19:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
6:19:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
6:19:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
6:19:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
6:19:14PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON AND
6:19:17PM VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
6:19:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: INFORMATION AND REPORT.
6:19:22PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:19:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE 88 TO -- 88 CANNOT BE HEARD.
6:19:36PM GOT A RENOTICE OR REMOVE.
6:19:40PM >> SECOND.
6:19:43PM >> MOTION BUT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:19:45PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:19:47PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:19:48PM THANK YOU.
6:19:48PM INFORMATION REPORTS.
6:19:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO INVITE
6:19:54PM REPRESENTATIVE TO COUNCIL US THE TUESDAY, OF A ZOO AND
6:20:00PM MASTER VISION AND ALSO BRING A SURPRISE FROM THE ZOO.
6:20:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT BETTER A GIRAFFE.
6:20:07PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT MIGHT BE A TIGER.
6:20:10PM IF I CAN HAVE THIS, I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE IN
6:20:14PM PLACING THEM FIRST ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE THEY HAVE GOT TO
6:20:16PM TAKE THE GUEST BACK.
6:20:18PM >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO -- EXCUSE ME, MIRANDA,
6:20:21PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:20:29PM SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION --
6:20:32PM >> MAKE A VOTE ON THE FIRST.
6:20:34PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:20:35PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:20:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:20:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A
6:20:43PM COMMENDATION TO AMATEUR RADIO CLUB WHO WILL BE CELEBRATING
6:20:47PM ITS 100th ANNIVERSARY, OCTOBER 22ND, 2-022 AT 6 P.M. AND
6:20:56PM I WILL BE PRESENTING TO THEM AT THE E.
6:20:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:21:00PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:21:05PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
6:21:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, SIR.
6:21:08PM WE HAD TWO YEARS AGO I ASKED ABOUT FENCING BE PUT AROUND A
6:21:13PM PLACE THAT WAS TORN OUT OVER THERE, AND IT HASN'T BEEN DONE.
6:21:18PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE PARK AND RECREATION
6:21:21PM INSTALL FENCING, WITH RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CRA WITH
6:21:28PM FUNDING AS WELL, AND BRING A REPORT NOVEMBER 3rd.
6:21:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
6:21:46PM THE 17th IS FINE.
6:21:48PM >> SECOND.
6:21:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:21:50PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:21:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAD ONE OF OUR GREAT SOLID WASTE
6:21:57PM WORKERS DO A GREAT JOB, THE SOLID WASTE CONVENTION THEY HAD.
6:22:06PM I WANT TO RECOGNIZE JOHN BILLINGSLEY COMPETING IN EL PASO
6:22:15PM FROM THE NATIONAL SWANA ROAD-E-O.
6:22:18PM HE'S ONLY THE SECOND EMPLOYEE TO COMPETE IN A NATIONAL RODEO
6:22:25PM HISTORY FOR SOLID WASTE FROM TAMPA.
6:22:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:22:30PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:22:37PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
6:22:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SO I AM
6:22:43PM MOVING THE STAFF UPDATE WITH THE FEEDBACK FROM THE FLORIDA
6:22:46PM DEP WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 3rd UNDER STAFF
6:22:49PM REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS REGARDING THE BENEFICIAL USE
6:22:53PM QUESTION ABOUT THE CITY'S DISCHARGE BE CONTINUED TO DECEMBER
6:22:57PM 1st, 2022.
6:23:00PM >> SECOND.
6:23:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN SECOND --
6:23:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, THE VOTE.
6:23:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS ONE MOTION.
6:23:13PM MOVING THE UPDATE FOR THE BENEFICIAL USE QUESTION, WE ARE
6:23:15PM MOVING IT FROM NOVEMBER 3rd, WHICH IS NEXT WEEK, TO --
6:23:20PM I'M SORRY, DECEMBER 1st.
6:23:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW A MOTION AND A SECOND.
6:23:25PM >> SECOND.
6:23:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
6:23:30PM HURTAK.
6:23:31PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:23:33PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:23:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
6:23:37PM AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REQUIRE THE DESIGN
6:23:41PM CRITERIA PACKAGES BE ADDED TO THE REQUIRED SIRE
6:23:45PM DOCUMENTATION FOR ALL DESIGN BUILD CONTRACT APPROVAL
6:23:49PM REQUESTS.
6:23:49PM >> SECOND.
6:23:51PM >> MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
6:23:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:23:56PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:23:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S IT.
6:24:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
6:24:02PM EXCELLENT.
6:24:02PM >> JANUARY 26th WORKSHOP.
6:24:07PM I MOVE I.T. STAFF, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, AND LEGAL TO DISCUSS
6:24:14PM THE COST, DOLLAR WISE AND IN STAFFING, AND THE FEASIBILITY
6:24:21PM IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO HAVE STAFF REPORTS HELD ON A SEPARATE
6:24:25PM DAY OTHER THAN THURSDAY.
6:24:28PM AGAIN, THAT IS JANUARY 26th, 9:00 A.M.
6:24:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
6:24:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN CITRO
6:24:36PM WITH A SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
6:24:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:24:40PM ANY OPPOSED?
6:24:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
6:24:44PM >> I'M SORRY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I APOLOGIZE.
6:24:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A MOTION BUT NOT PREPARED TO
6:24:56PM MAKE IT.
6:24:56PM I NEED CLARIFICATION.
6:24:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM GOING TOTALLY GOING TO THAT SIDE.
6:25:01PM WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?
6:25:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, I AM NOT READY TO DO IT.
6:25:05PM I WILL WAIT TILL THE NEXT MEETING.
6:25:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
6:25:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A REQUEST AND I TALKED TO ABBYE
6:25:09PM FEELEY AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
6:25:12PM IT CAN BE DONE FOR NEXT WEEK'S WORKSHOP.
6:25:14PM IT'S TO GROUP ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT ITEMS TOGETHER ON THE
6:25:20PM WORKSHOP AND PUT THEM FIRST BECAUSE THEY USUALLY, FOR
6:25:23PM WHATEVER REASON, VERY IMPORTANT AND I APPRECIATE COUNCIL
6:25:29PM GIVING CONSIDERATION TO HAVING THEM FIRST ON THE AGENDA.
6:25:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
6:25:40PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
6:25:41PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:25:43PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:25:45PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:25:47PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:25:48PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
6:25:49PM [MEETING ADJOURNED]
6:25:51PM
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