TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 27, 2022
5:01 P.M.
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05:07:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY
05:07:27PM COUNCIL EVENING AGENDA HELD THIS DAY OCTOBER 27, 2022.
05:07:33PM MR. SHELBY, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN, DO WE?
05:07:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE WILL DO IT VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
05:07:43PM I DON'T EVEN SEE IT ON THE AGENDA.
05:07:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T EITHER.
05:07:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I KNOW IT IS ON THE AGENDA AND IN THE
05:07:49PM INSTRUCTIONS.
05:07:50PM INSTRUCTIONS FOR COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, CMT.
05:07:55PM >> THE BROADCAST IS NOW ATTENDING.
05:07:57PM ALL ATTENDEES IN LISTEN-ONLY MODE.
05:08:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THOSE PEOPLE AT HOME PARTICIPATING ON
05:08:04PM A COMMUNICATION DEVICE.
05:08:05PM I AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY THIS EVENING,
05:08:09PM OCTOBER 27, 2022.
05:08:11PM AT THE 5:01 MEETING AND INSTRUCTIONS INCLUDING A CMT DEVICE
05:08:18PM IS ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB SITE AT TAMPA.GOV.
05:08:22PM AND ALSO IN THE NOTICE.
05:08:23PM AND TO ADOPT THE CMT RULES, I WILL ASK THAT YOU WAIVE THE
05:08:29PM RULES AND ADOPT THOSE.
05:08:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
05:08:33PM FIRST WE NEED ROLL CALL.
05:08:36PM I APOLOGIZE.
05:08:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:08:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:08:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:08:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
05:08:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:08:49PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:08:51PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:08:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOTION MOVE ITEM 1-9.
05:08:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:09:01PM AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:09:03PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:09:04PM YES, WE WILL HAVE HOUSEKEEPING.
05:09:06PM MISS BARNES.
05:09:08PM >>ANNIE BARNES: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:09:15PM ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:09:19PM SEVERAL ITEMS TO CLEAN UP TONIGHT ON THE AGENDA.
05:09:21PM THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM ITEM NUMBER 4, 22-09.
05:09:27PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO BE HEARD
05:09:31PM DECEMBER 8, 2022 AT 5:01.
05:09:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 4 FILE NUMBER
05:09:42PM AB2-22-09.
05:09:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE FIRST CONTINUANCE?
05:09:48PM >>ANNIE BARNES: YES.
05:09:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK
05:09:53PM TO THIS CONTINUANCE ONLY.
05:09:54PM A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:09:57PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:09:58PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:09:59PM ANY OPPOSED.
05:10:02PM >>ANNIE BARNES: NEXT ITEM ITEM NUMBER 9, REZ-22-101.
05:10:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM 9, REZ-22-101.
05:10:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEIR FIRST MISNOTICE.
05:10:20PM >>ANNIE BARNES: CORRECT.
05:10:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
05:10:24PM THANK YOU MISS BARNES.
05:10:26PM ITEM NUMBER 1, BF22-77365.
05:10:37PM >> McLANE EVANS.
05:10:40PM ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
05:10:42PM BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED 2101 WEST
05:10:47PM MAIN STREET.
05:10:47PM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS REQUESTING DESIGNATION OF THIS PROPERTY
05:10:50PM AS A BROWNFIELD AREA TO ASSIST IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS
05:10:55PM THAT MAY RESULT IN THE PROPERTY.
05:10:57PM EVIDENCE OF BENZOPYRENE AND ARSENIC HAVE BEEN FOUND AND
05:11:04PM DETAILS ARE PROVIDED IN THE SITE REPORT ENTITLED STAFF
05:11:07PM REPORT ON MAIN STREET PARK PROPOSED BROWNFIELD AREA
05:11:10PM DESIGNATION BOTH AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW FROM THE CITY
05:11:14PM CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE SIRE SITE.
05:11:17PM NO ACTION IS REQUIRED BY CITY COUNCIL TODAY EXCEPT TO HOLD
05:11:20PM THE HEARING AND ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:11:22PM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED
05:11:25PM NOVEMBER 17, COUNCIL WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADOPT
05:11:32PM RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE PARK SITE AS A BROWN FIELD AREA.
05:11:35PM ANY QUESTIONS?
05:11:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
05:11:39PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:11:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THIS THE PARCEL WE ACQUIRED RECENTLY,
05:11:43PM THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH PARK?
05:11:46PM >> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A TITLE.
05:11:49PM A PREVIOUSLY USED PARK ABOUT 2.3 ACRES.
05:11:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S THE ONE.
05:11:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
05:12:01PM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM 1,
05:12:07PM BF22-77365.
05:12:12PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:12:13PM >> SECOND.
05:12:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANYBODY ONLINE?
05:12:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
05:12:21PM NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR ANYTHING TONIGHT.
05:12:23PM NOTHING.
05:12:24PM NADA, NICO, ZIP, ZERO, ZILCH.
05:12:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MUST NOT LIKE YOU.
05:12:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:12:34PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, WAS IT?
05:12:36PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:12:37PM ANY OPPOSED.
05:12:39PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
05:12:41PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, FILE NUMBER CIP AND CIS 2023-2027.
05:12:55PM >>MELISSA DICKENS: GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, MELISSA DICKENS,
05:13:03PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:13:03PM ANNUAL UPDATE OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION SCHEDULE OF
05:13:09PM PROJECTS.
05:13:10PM IT COMES BEFORE YOU AND I AM FILLING IN FOR DIEGO GUERRA ON
05:13:16PM OUR TEAM.
05:13:17PM CHAPTER 163 REQUIRES THAT THOSE PROJECTS WITHIN THE
05:13:22PM CITY'S CIP THAT EFFECT AN ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE BE
05:13:26PM UPDATED ANNUALLY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:13:28PM THIS -- EXCUSE ME, THIS AMENDMENT WOULD REPLACE THE EXISTING
05:13:33PM SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS WITHIN THE PLAN.
05:13:35PM PROJECTS ARE CATEGORIZED IN TERMS OF HOW THEY EFFECT AN
05:13:38PM ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE AND THIS UPDATE IS ACCOMPLISHED BY
05:13:42PM ORDINANCE.
05:13:42PM THIS TABLE SHOWS THE LIST OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION
05:13:51PM SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE ADDED WITHIN
05:13:56PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:13:57PM THERE ARE TOTAL OF 122 PROJECTS AFFECTING A BROAD RANGE OF
05:14:03PM CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES PLANNING ACROSS THE
05:14:06PM CITY.
05:14:06PM FURTHER INFORMATION ON THESE PROJECTS IS ALSO AVAILABLE IN
05:14:09PM THE STAFF REPORT IN YOUR PACKET.
05:14:10PM THIS TABLE SHOWS HOW THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS ARE
05:14:17PM CATEGORIZED.
05:14:18PM YOU CAN SEE THE TWO LARGEST AREAS ARE TO ADDRESS AN EXISTING
05:14:25PM DEFICIENCY OR TO REPLACE AN EXISTING FACILITY.
05:14:28PM AND THIS BREAKS DOWN HOW CITY STAFF HAS CATEGORIZED THE
05:14:32PM VARIOUS PROJECTS.
05:14:33PM HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THE ELMO TONIGHT.
05:14:40PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE OF
05:14:45PM PROJECTS FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND
05:14:49PM POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:14:50PM STAFF FOUND THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS CONSISTENT
05:14:54PM WITH COASTAL MANAGEMENT POLICIES LIMITING EXPENDITURES IN
05:14:58PM THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE
05:15:01PM ADOPTED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES
05:15:05PM RELATED TO THE PRIORITIES FOR THE SCHEDULE AND FOUND THAT
05:15:09PM THE PROJECTS WITHIN THE SCHEDULE FURTHERED SPECIFIC
05:15:14PM INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED DIRECTION WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE
05:15:17PM PLAN FOR POTABLE WATER, STORMWATER, MOBILITY, RECREATION,
05:15:21PM OPEN SPACE, AND SOLID WASTE.
05:15:22PM AND YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE FY'23-'27 SCHEDULE
05:15:32PM OF PROJECTS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND
05:15:35PM POLICIES OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND RECOMMENDS
05:15:37PM ADOPTION THIS EVENING.
05:15:38PM I AM AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:15:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:15:45PM SEEING NONE, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
05:15:48PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, FILE NUMBER CIP AND CIS '23-'27.
05:15:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:16:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
05:16:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
05:16:03PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:16:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER CIP ANDCIS
05:16:15PM 2023-2027.
05:16:17PM ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING, AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040:
05:16:23PM TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION AND
05:16:25PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION BY WILL HE PLACING THE CAPITAL
05:16:28PM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE OF
05:16:31PM PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2027 --
05:16:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:16:37PM A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
05:16:39PM >> YEAH, THANK YOU.
05:16:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE DON'T HAVE IT --
05:16:45PM >> IT WAS ON --
05:16:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE DON'T HAVE IT ON OURS.
05:16:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT ONE.
05:16:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE DON'T HAVE IT ON OUR DRAFT -- I MEAN ON
05:16:58PM --
05:16:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST READ THIS?
05:17:01PM OKAY.
05:17:02PM I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE -- YEP, MOVE FILE NUMBER CIP AND CIS
05:17:12PM 2023-2027, ITEM NUMBER 2, SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
05:17:17PM MORE NANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
05:17:20PM PLAN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLACE BY REPLACING FISCAL YEAR
05:17:25PM 2022-2026 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS WITH THE
05:17:29PM FISCAL 2023 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2027 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
05:17:33PM SECTION SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS PROVIDE FOR APPEAL OF ALL
05:17:38PM ORDINANCES AND SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE STATE.
05:17:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED BY
05:17:44PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:17:45PM ARE WE USING -- NO, ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:17:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:18:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:18:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:18:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:18:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:18:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:18:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:18:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR MANICOTTI.
05:18:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SHE GOT THE FIRST ROUND.
05:18:20PM [LAUGHTER]
05:18:24PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:18:26PM SECOND READING AND ADOPT AT 9:30 A.M.
05:18:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAN-SCHOOL-CO.
05:18:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: VIERA AND MIRANDA TOGETHER IS VERANDA.
05:18:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE CANNOT MAKE A MOTION AND SECOND IT,
05:18:43PM OKAY.
05:18:43PM ALL RIGHT.
05:18:46PM ANYONE -- ANYONE WHO IS GOING TO BE GIVING ANY TESTIMONY OR
05:18:51PM WILL BE SPEAKING TO ANY OF THE OTHER QUASIJUDICIAL CASES,
05:18:55PM WILL YOU PLEASE RISE TO BE SWORN IN.
05:18:57PM [SWEARING IN]
05:19:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:19:10PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.
05:19:15PM FILE NUMBER REZ-22-124.
05:19:19PM POLICE WARNINGS.
05:19:21PM >>ANNIE BARNES: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:19:23PM LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:19:24PM ITEM NUMBER 3 IS REZ-22-124.
05:19:30PM REZONE PROPERTY 1701 EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD, REQUEST FROM IG TO CI.
05:19:38PM I WILL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO THE PLANNING
05:19:40PM COMMISSION.
05:19:40PM >>EMILY PHELAN: GOOD EVENING, EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING
05:19:49PM COMMISSION STAFF.
05:19:49PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING
05:19:53PM DISTRICT AND THE SULPHUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:19:56PM THE CLOSEST TRANSIT SHOT ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE
05:20:02PM SITE.
05:20:02PM ROWLETT PARK CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FOUR MILES SOUTHEAST AND
05:20:08PM THE SITE IS NOT WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE.
05:20:12PM SUBJECT SITE IS HERE AND OUTLINED IN PURPLE AND THE TRANSIT
05:20:17PM STOP PREVIOUSLY STATED IS ABOUT RIGHT HERE.
05:20:19PM THE SITE INTERFACES EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD AND CSX RAILROAD
05:20:28PM ARE HERE.
05:20:28PM EAST AND NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS A MIX OF COMMERCIAL,
05:20:32PM INDUSTRIAL AND GENERAL USES.
05:20:33PM TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE SITE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY USES, AS WELL
05:20:37PM AS MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX.
05:20:40PM THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE.
05:20:47PM THE SUBJECT IS HERE.
05:20:49PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COMMUNICATION.
05:20:52PM THE CMU-35 TO THE NORTH.
05:20:56PM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO THE EAST AND ALSO FOLLOWS BUSCH
05:20:59PM BOULEVARD ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
05:21:00PM AND THEN THE ORANGE COLOR IS RESIDENTIAL-10 THAT SURROUNDS
05:21:05PM THE SITE.
05:21:05PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND
05:21:09PM NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:21:11PM COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONE PARCEL TO THE NORTH AND EAST.
05:21:16PM TO THE NORTH OF EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD.
05:21:19PM WHERE THERE ARE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS
05:21:22PM AND MULTIFAMILY USES TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE,
05:21:25PM THE CSX RAILROAD PROVIDES AB BUFFER.
05:21:34PM THE ZONING WILL ALLOW BETTER UTILIZATION OF THE LAND THAT IS
05:21:37PM CONSISTENT WITH THE ANTICIPATED UNDER THE LI DESIGNATION AND
05:21:41PM ENSURES EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE
05:21:45PM CITY'S POPULATION.
05:21:46PM DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING IN
05:21:49PM THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING A AREA, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
05:21:51PM FINDS THE REQUEST COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
05:21:55PM SURROUNDING AREA AND CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
05:21:57PM UNDER THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DESIGNATION.
05:21:59PM THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:22:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:22:10PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:22:12PM JUST TO CONTINUE ON WHAT EMILY ALREADY STATED, THE REQUEST
05:22:17PM IS TO REZONE FROM IG TO CI FOR 1701 BUSCH BOULEVARD.
05:22:23PM I WILL SHOW THE SITE AGAIN ON THE ELMO.
05:22:25PM AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE AREA,
05:22:29PM BUT RAILROAD BREAKS UP THE INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
05:22:36PM THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 7.15 ACRES IN SIZE.
05:22:40PM SO IT IS QUITE LARGE AND CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.
05:22:45PM THERE ARE A MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND
05:22:48PM RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
05:22:50PM THE PROPOSED REZONING OF CI WILL ACT AS A BUFFER AND
05:22:59PM TRANSITIONAL ZONING BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING TO THE
05:23:01PM WEST AND SOUTH AND MORE INTENSE INDUSTRIAL USE TO THE EAST.
05:23:04PM SO THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SITE SOUTH OF BUSCH BOULEVARD.
05:23:11PM AND THEN DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE SITE IS ALSO ZONED CI.
05:23:19PM AND THEN DIRECTLY EAST OF THE SITE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE SITE
05:23:25PM -- PART OF THE SITE RIGHT IN THE PICTURE HERE.
05:23:27PM HERE IS THAT INDUSTRIAL USE.
05:23:30PM AND FURTHER ALONG EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD.
05:23:35PM BASED UPON THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, STAFF FINDS THE
05:23:42PM REQUEST CONSISTENT.
05:23:43PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
05:23:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:23:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THAT THE OLD HOTEL SITE?
05:23:52PM >>ANNIE BARNES: I AM NOT SURE.
05:23:53PM I KNOW IT IS VACANT NOW.
05:23:55PM I AM NOT SURE YEARS PRIOR IF IT WAS A HOTEL.
05:23:57PM I DO KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT --
05:24:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YEAH --
05:24:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHERE CLOSE TO THAT.
05:24:08PM >>ANNIE BARNES: MY UNDERSTANDING WILL BUILD ALY TELL AND
05:24:10PM RESTAURANT.
05:24:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT WAS THAT LOT.
05:24:12PM IT IS WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.
05:24:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:24:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WHERE WAS THE OLD
05:24:21PM SEA WOLF?
05:24:22PM BASS IT FURTHER DOWN?
05:24:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RIGHT NEXT TO THE NEW ONE.
05:24:25PM [LAUGHTER]
05:24:30PM ON 48th STREET AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PARKING LOT
05:24:33PM FROM BUSCH GARDENS.
05:24:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
05:24:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
05:24:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:24:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO RELEVANCY BUT THE SEA WOLF -- THAT BUILDING
05:24:46PM IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT A PAWN SHOP.
05:24:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE BACK SIDE WAS A VERY LARGE PIECE OF
05:24:52PM PROPERTY.
05:24:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WENT WITH MY PARENTS WHEN I WAS TOO YOUNG.
05:24:56PM MAYBE TOO YOUNG, WHO KNOWS.
05:24:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MRS. JEAN HOLLOWAY.
05:25:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EUGENE HUDSON HOLLOWAY.
05:25:09PM ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:25:12PM THANK YOU, MISS BARNES.
05:25:13PM PETITIONER.
05:25:14PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:25:21PM JERICE BARBEE WITH ABBOTT GROUP.
05:25:27PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33626.
05:25:31PM THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE TODAY AND GETTING US ON
05:25:34PM THE AGENDA SO QUICKLY.
05:25:35PM STAFF, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
05:25:38PM I JUST LIKE TO SAY I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT STAFF HAS
05:25:42PM PRESENTED AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THE
05:25:45PM DEVELOPMENT OF THIS VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
05:25:47PM AS THE COMMISSIONER DID ASK EARLIER, THIS SITE WAS
05:25:51PM PREVIOUSLY A HOTEL USE.
05:25:53PM SO SEVERAL MONTHS BACK, WE CAME BACK AND ATTENDED A
05:25:58PM PREAPPLICATION MEETING FOR A CONCEPT PLAN WE PUT TOGETHER
05:26:02PM FOR A HOTEL USE AND RESTAURANT OUT FRONT AND THIS WAS THE
05:26:06PM METHOD THAT WAS TOLD TO COME FORWARD WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
05:26:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD PLACE FOR IT.
05:26:12PM >> WITH THE REZONING.
05:26:13PM SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, OR IF NOT, I WILL RESERVE MY
05:26:18PM TIME.
05:26:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
05:26:19PM SEEING NONE, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
05:26:24PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE NUMBER REZ-22-124.
05:26:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:26:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
05:26:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:26:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
05:26:37PM MOVE ITEM NUMBER 3, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
05:26:44PM READING CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
05:26:47PM GENERAL VICINITY OF 1701 EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD PRESCRIBED
05:26:54PM IN IG, INDUSTRIAL GENERAL, TO CI, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE,
05:26:57PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:26:59PM I FIND THAT THE APPLICANT HAS MET HIS BURDEN OF PROOF TO
05:27:02PM PROVIDE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE OF THE
05:27:06PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY TOAD CODE AND FURTHER ADOPT THE
05:27:10PM FINDINGS AND REASONING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY
05:27:12PM STAFF REPORTS, ALL OF WHICH I INCORPORATE HERE IN MY
05:27:16PM REMARKS.
05:27:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:27:20PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:27:21PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:27:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:27:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:27:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:27:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:27:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:27:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:27:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:27:34PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:27:37PM SECOND READING ADOPTION WILL BE HELD NOVEMBER 17, 2022 AT
05:27:47PM 9:30 A.M.
05:27:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:27:49PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, FILE NUMBER AB2-22-17.
05:28:01PM THANK YOU, MISS BARNES.
05:28:03PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:28:06PM ITEM IS 8217 AT 951, EAST 7th AVENUE.
05:28:15PM THE REQUEST FOR A RESTAURANT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.
05:28:18PM CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISE ONLY.
05:28:22PM THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A MIXED USE CORRIDOR ZONED YC-5
05:28:28PM WHICH IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
05:28:29PM THE DISTANCE FOR SEPARATION IS 250 FEET FROM OTHER AB SALES
05:28:35PM ESTABLISHMENTS AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
05:28:36PM THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR SEVERAL WAIVERS.
05:28:38PM ONE TO THE DISTANCE SEPARATION WAIVER.
05:28:41PM THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL USE WITHIN THREE FEET.
05:28:43PM AND THEN TO REDUCE SOME TRANSPORTATION-RELATED CODE ITEMS.
05:28:51PM TOP REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACE FROM 15 TO 3.
05:28:56PM AND TO REDUCE -- 15 TO 3, SORRY.
05:28:58PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, TRANSPORTATION AND SOLID WASTE
05:29:02PM FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT; HOWEVER, IT IS MY
05:29:05PM UNDERSTANDING THAT THE APPLICANT, IF APPROVED, PLANS TO COME
05:29:10PM INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOLID WASTE-RELATED ITEMS.
05:29:13PM THAT CONCLUDES -- OH, YOU NEED SOME PICTURES.
05:29:16PM SHOWN HERE IS THE SITE.
05:29:23PM AND YOU CAN SEE, THIS WAS LILY WHITE COURT.
05:29:29PM THE AREA AROUND HERE.
05:29:30PM SO THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
05:29:37PM DIRECTLY NORTHEAST LOOKING TOWARD HISTORIC YBOR.
05:29:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:29:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:29:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANNIE, GO BACK TO THE FIRST SO I CAN SEE
05:29:50PM THE SITE AGAIN.
05:29:51PM THAT THE OLD CLEANERS THERE?
05:29:54PM YEAH.
05:29:54PM >>ANNIE BARNES: A LAUNDROMAT IN THE SAME BUILDING.
05:29:57PM THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE.
05:30:09PM AND DIRECTLY SOUTH AND EAST.
05:30:12PM SO I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:30:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS?
05:30:19PM THANK YOU, MISS BARNES.
05:30:21PM PETITIONER.
05:30:26PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, JANE GRAHAM, FOUNDER OF
05:30:45PM SUNSHINE CITY LAW, SUITE 100, SAFETY HARBOR.
05:30:48PM I REPRESENT NIKOLE THOMPSON IN HER APPLICATION FOR AN
05:30:52PM ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR
05:30:57PM AT LOS CHAPO'S TACOS LOCATED 5951 7th AVENUE IN YBOR CITY.
05:31:03PM LOS CHAPO'S TACOS IS A WELL-LOVED TACO RESTAURANT IN YBOR
05:31:13PM CITY.
05:31:13PM A WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESS KNOWN FOR BAARIA TACOS AND
05:31:21PM MEXICAN-STYLE FOOD.
05:31:22PM ALLOWING A WET ZONING FOR LOS CHAPO'S IS COMPLEMENTARY AND
05:31:29PM COMPATIBLE TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
05:31:30PM IT IS ZONED YC-5 FOR COMMERCIAL AND SERVICE OPERATIONS TO
05:31:36PM SERVE RESIDENTS OF THE IMMEDIATE AREA AND ACTUALLY RIGHT BY
05:31:39PM AND WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE RECENTLY APPROVED GAS WORX
05:31:45PM DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS HEARD BY THIS COUNCIL IN AUGUST, A
05:31:47PM TRANSIT-ORIENTED MULTIFAMILY RETAIL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
05:31:52PM A PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.
05:31:54PM A HISTORY OF ALCOHOL SALES IN THIS SHOPPING CENTER.
05:31:57PM IN 2007, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED ORDINANCE 2007-195 TO
05:32:03PM ALLOW SALES OF BEER AND WINE OFF-PREMISE AT THE CONVENIENCE
05:32:08PM STORE IN SUITE D.
05:32:10PM THIS CONVENIENCE STORE HAS SINCE CLOSED.
05:32:12PM YOU HAVE SEVERAL LETTER FROM INDIVIDUALS IN THE CITY
05:32:15PM SUPPORTING THIS APPLICATION.
05:32:16PM AND I HAVE SOME MORE TO ENTER INTO THE RECORD TONIGHT IF I
05:32:19PM MAY.
05:32:20PM MADAM CLERK.
05:32:24PM THANK YOU.
05:32:25PM MY CLIENT IS ASKING FOR A PARKING WAIVER AND RESIDENTIAL USE
05:32:30PM WAIVER.
05:32:30PM THIS APPLICATION MEETS THE GENERAL STANDARDS AS REQUIRED
05:32:33PM UNDER SECTION 27-129A FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
05:32:38PM I ALSO HAVE A PHOTO OF THE ENCLOSURE AROUND THE EXISTING
05:32:42PM DUMPSTER TO COMPLY WITH THE SOLID WASTE ISSUE THAT HAD BEEN
05:32:46PM BROUGHT UP BY STAFF.
05:32:46PM I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:32:49PM AND BEFORE WE CLOSE, I WOULD LIKE TO -- I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU
05:32:53PM TO HEAR FROM NIKOLE THOMPSON HERSELF WHO HAS A FEW WORDS.
05:32:58PM >> HELLO, MY NAME IS NIKOLE THOMPSON, AND I STAND BEFORE YOU
05:33:04PM ASKING FOR THE AB-2 TO IMPROVE MY BUSINESS AND THE REQUEST OF
05:33:08PM OUR CUSTOMERS.
05:33:08PM I HAVE BEEN COMING TO YBOR SINCE HE WAS 18 AND MY LOVE FOR
05:33:12PM YBOR HAS NEVER STOPPED.
05:33:14PM I KNEW I WOULD HAVE A BUSINESS HERE ONE DAY.
05:33:17PM I OPENED LOS CHAPO'S, I HAD NO IDEA HOW WE WOULD GROW AND
05:33:23PM PEOPLE CLOSE TO TAMPA AND HOURS AWAY WOULD LOVE OUR TACOS.
05:33:27PM 250,000 FOLLOWERS IN TWO YEARS.
05:33:30PM I AM WORKING TO OPEN MY THIRD LOS CHAPO'S IN BRANDON.
05:33:37PM I STOOD IN FAVOR OF THE GAS WORX AND A PLACE TO GO FOR PEOPLE
05:33:43PM WHO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:33:46PM I WANT TO GROW IN YBOR AND I AM ASKING FOR THIS LICENSE TO
05:33:49PM OFFER THE SAME THING AS THE OTHER RESTAURANTS HAVE.
05:33:52PM THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO ME.
05:33:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:33:59PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:34:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:34:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE PARKING ISSUES, TO REDUCE TO THREE
05:34:08PM PARKING SPACES.
05:34:09PM >> YES, SIR.
05:34:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY ARE THERE NOW?
05:34:13PM >> THREE -- THERE ARE THREE.
05:34:14PM RIGHT NOW.
05:34:17PM JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THAT, MISS THOMPSON
05:34:21PM HAS TRIED TO WORK THIS OUT WITH OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE
05:34:27PM AREA AS FAR AS TALKING TO A PARKING GARAGE, TALKING A THE A
05:34:32PM SCHOOL.
05:34:32PM HAD DISCUSSIONS BUT HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO WORK ANYTHING OUT.
05:34:35PM SHE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH DARYL SHAW WHO SAID ONCE
05:34:41PM GAS WORX COMES ON LINE THEY MAY BE ABLE TO WORK SOMETHING
05:34:43PM OUT, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, SHE WOULD LIKE TO GET THINGS
05:34:47PM MOVING.
05:34:47PM AND THE LAUNDROMAT HAS CLOSED.
05:34:49PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OH, IT HAS.
05:34:52PM >> YES.
05:34:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:34:59PM IS THE LAUNDROMAT PART OF THE SAME COMPLEX?
05:35:04PM >> YES, IT IS IN THE SAME SHOPPING CENTER.
05:35:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAS SHE WORKED OUT A DEAL WITH THE LANDLORD
05:35:10PM OF THE SAME COMPLEX PARK IN THOSE PLACES THERE?
05:35:14PM >> ABSOLUTELY, YES.
05:35:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WORKED OUT THE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT.
05:35:19PM >> IS IT A CONTRACT THAT IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN --
05:35:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOW MANY SEATS ARE IN THE RESTAURANT?
05:35:26PM >> I THINK IT'S, LIKE, 40.
05:35:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LIKE 40 OR ARE 40.
05:35:32PM >> A LITTLE OVER 40.
05:35:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PEOPLE GOT TOGETHER IN ONE CAR, THERE WOULD
05:35:37PM BE TEN CARS.
05:35:38PM >> TYPICALLY PEOPLE WALK FROM YBOR.
05:35:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:35:41PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:35:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW LONG HAS YOUR BUSINESS BEEN OPEN?
05:35:46PM >> TWO YEARS.
05:35:47PM BUT I OWNED THE CONVENIENCE STORE PRIOR TO THAT.
05:35:49PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OH, OKAY.
05:35:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
05:35:54PM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
05:35:56PM ITEM NUMBER 5, FILE NUMBER AB2-22-17.
05:36:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:36:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
05:36:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
05:36:07PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:36:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I READ THE ORDINANCE, HOW LATE
05:36:12PM ARE YOU OPEN?
05:36:13PM >> 11:00.
05:36:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 11:00.
05:36:16PM YOU WILL GET A LATER NIGHT CROWD WALKING DOWN 7th AVENUE.
05:36:19PM ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
05:36:22PM APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS TO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
05:36:26PM SALES RESTAURANT.
05:36:26PM CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
05:36:31PM BEVERAGE OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT
05:36:35PM OR TRACT OF LAND EAST 7th AVENUE.
05:36:38PM TAMPA FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 AND
05:36:42PM ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICTS ARE REPEALED.
05:36:44PM REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2007-195, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
05:36:50PM DATE AND WITH THE WAIVERS THAT WERE REQUESTED.
05:36:54PM SPECIFICALLY THE DISTANCE SEPARATION, I BELIEVE, AND THE
05:36:57PM PARKING.
05:36:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:37:02PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:37:04PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:37:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:37:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:37:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:37:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:37:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:37:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:37:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:37:21PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:37:25PM SECOND READING ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 17, 2022 AT
05:37:31PM 9:30 A.M.
05:37:33PM >> THANK YOU.
05:37:34PM >> THANK YOU.
05:37:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE NUMBER AB
05:37:43PM 2-22-18.
05:37:43PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:37:56PM THE NEXT CASE IS AB 2-22-18, ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES FOR
05:38:02PM LARGE VENUE, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.
05:38:05PM AND ON-PREMISE AND OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.
05:38:10PM 3924 WEST SPRUCE STREET.
05:38:14PM IT PREVIOUSLY DID HAVE AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES LICENSE
05:38:18PM FOR A LARGE VENUE FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND PACKAGE
05:38:23PM SALES; HOWEVER, THIS IS ADDING LIQUOR.
05:38:25PM THE AB SALES AREA IS 49,660 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS THE SAME
05:38:34PM SIZE AS IT WAS PREVIOUSLY.
05:38:36PM IT'S LOCATED WITHIN A MIXED USE CORRIDOR AND THE DISTANCE
05:38:40PM SEPARATION IS 250 FEET FROM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS
05:38:45PM AND USES.
05:38:46PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A DISTANCE SEPARATION WAIVER TO
05:38:49PM A RESIDENTIAL USE THAT IS 91 FEET AWAY.
05:38:52PM THIS REQUEST WAS PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED AS WELL.
05:38:56PM AND I AM JUST GOING TO SHOW YOU THE SITE.
05:39:01PM AND STAFF IS INCONSISTENT BASED ON THAT WAIVER.
05:39:06PM SO THIS IS THE SITE HERE.
05:39:09PM SOUTH OF SPRUCE STREET.
05:39:13PM THIS IS OUT ON THE CORNER.
05:39:18PM AND THEN FURTHER ALONG.
05:39:28PM SORRY, AND THEN -- THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE.
05:39:35PM AND EAST OF THE SITE.
05:39:38PM AND SOUTH OF THE SITE, WITH PARTIALLY HAVING THE SITE IN THE
05:39:45PM PHOTO.
05:39:46PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
05:39:48PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
05:39:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
05:39:58PM PETITIONER.
05:39:58PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:40:04PM CHRIS BIRD WITH THE LAW OFFICES OF GRAY ROBINSON, EAST
05:40:09PM JACKSON.
05:40:10PM I'M HERE WITH JULIA MANDEL WITH THE APPLICANT.
05:40:16PM THE APPLICATION REQUESTS AB SALES PERMIT UNDER THE 4-COP
05:40:22PM FOR THE SALE OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FOR CONSUMPTION ON
05:40:25PM PREMISES AND PACKAGED SALE OFF PREMISES.
05:40:29PM IN ADDITION, THEY PLAN TO OPERATE A CRAFT DIDISTILLERY THAT
05:40:34PM IS CONSISTENT WITH THE MICROBREWERY THAT CURRENTLY OPERATES
05:40:38PM THERE.
05:40:38PM AS YOU SEE IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE APPLICANT IS NOT SEEKING
05:40:44PM ALTERATION OF THE SALES AREA AND OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED
05:40:47PM PLANS.
05:40:47PM THIS INCLUDES THE WAIVER PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.
05:40:49PM THE ONLY CHANGE THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO ALLOW THE
05:40:53PM SALE OF LIQUOR FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION AND PACKAGE SALES.
05:40:56PM THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING THE 4-COP PERMIT TO ALTER OPERATION
05:41:01PM OF CRAFT FACILITY.
05:41:02PM THE SITE IS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND THE CRAFT DISTILLERY
05:41:08PM WITHIN THE CI ZONE.
05:41:10PM THE APPLICATION ONLY NEEDS MINOR CORRECTIONS OF THE SITE
05:41:14PM PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND PLAN TO MAKE
05:41:17PM CORRECTIONS.
05:41:17PM WE SPOKE WITH STAFF AND WILL BE ADDING THE CRAFT DISTILLERY
05:41:21PM USE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
05:41:24PM THE APPLICANT MR. ESPINOSA HAS MADE HIMSELF AVAILABLE TO
05:41:29PM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SALE OR OPERATION OF THE
05:41:31PM BUSINESS AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
05:41:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:41:38PM MR. BIRD, YOU ANSWERED ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
05:41:41PM I WAS -- UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THIS IS A MICROBREWERY.
05:41:46PM AND MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, WHY DOES A MICROBREWERY NEED
05:41:51PM TO SELL ALCOHOL, BUT NOW YOU ARE TELLING ME THEY HAVE NOW
05:41:55PM BECOME A MICROBREWERY/DISTILLER.
05:42:00PM >> THEY PLAN ON IT.
05:42:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
05:42:03PM BECAUSE YOU REALIZE WE GRANT THIS, IT GOES WITH THE
05:42:06PM PROPERTY, NOT WITH THE OWNER.
05:42:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS BARNES.
05:42:12PM >>ANNIE BARNES: LAND DEVELOPMENT.
05:42:14PM I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL USE FOR CRAFT
05:42:19PM DISTILLERY IN THE CI ZONING DISTRICT.
05:42:22PM THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDED IF APPROVING THE APPLICATION
05:42:25PM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
05:42:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:42:29PM SEEING NONE, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
05:42:34PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE NUMBER AB-22-18.
05:42:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:42:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
05:42:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
05:42:45PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:42:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:42:49PM IF I CAN INQUIRE.
05:42:50PM DOES THAT CHANGE THE TITLE?
05:42:55PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:42:58PM YES, LET'S CHANGE THE TITLE IN THE USE TABLE AS WELL.
05:43:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN WE REOPEN THE HEARING.
05:43:04PM >> REOPEN TO MAKE CLEAR --
05:43:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: REOPEN THE HEARING BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:43:11PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:43:13PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:43:14PM >> ULTIMATELY UP TO THE CITY -- JULIA MANDEL WITH THE LAW
05:43:19PM FIRM OF GRAY ROBINSON, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
05:43:23PM I WANT TO CLARIFY AND UP TO THE CITY ATTORNEY WHETHER THE
05:43:27PM TITLE NEEDS TO CHANGE.
05:43:28PM WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU FROM A ALCOHOL PERSPECTIVE IS THE
05:43:31PM SALE OF ALCOHOL WHICH IS NOW ACCORDING TO THIS APPLICATION
05:43:34PM TO INCLUDE THE SALE OF LIQUOR.
05:43:36PM THE CURRENT USE OF THE PROPERTY AS A MICROBREWERY AND THE
05:43:41PM PERSPECTIVE USE OF THE PROPERTY AS A CRAFT DISTILLERY IS NOT
05:43:45PM REQUIRED FROM A LIQUOR LICENSE PERSPECTIVE, BUT IT IS BEING
05:43:50PM ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN SO THERE IS NO CONFUSION DOWN THE
05:43:53PM LINE AS TO WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.
05:43:55PM I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IT NEEDS TO CHANGE THE TITLE.
05:43:59PM WE CAN LEAVE IT UP TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO OPINE
05:44:03PM ON, BUT BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, THIS IS -- THIS IS -- THING IS
05:44:07PM THE THIRD TIME THIS HAS COME BACK BECAUSE IT HAS CHANGED
05:44:10PM ITERATIONS OF BEING JUST A MICRO BREWERY WHERE YOU DIDN'T
05:44:14PM HAVE THE SAME THINGS -- YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME PROVISIONS
05:44:17PM IN THE CODE AND HAS MOVED INTO A RESTAURANT.
05:44:19PM AND NOW HAS MOVED INTO THE RESTAURANT WHICH THE INCLUSION OF
05:44:24PM DISTILLERY AS PART OF THE ACTIVITIES, BUT ALSO THE SALE OF
05:44:28PM WHATEVER COMES OUT OF THE DISTILLERY WHICH IS LIQUOR OVER A
05:44:33PM CERTAIN PERCENT.
05:44:34PM I DON'T THINK IT GETS TO CHANGE THE TITLE.
05:44:38PM THAT IS ULTIMATELY UP TO THE CITY ATTORNEY BUT I WANTED TO
05:44:41PM GIVE THE BACKGROUND OF THOSE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN A WHILE.
05:44:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I INQUIRE.
05:44:49PM EITHER THIS QUESTION FOR MISS MANDEL OR MISS BARNES.
05:44:54PM DID THE STAFF REPORT CONTEMPLATE REVIEW BY THE LDC?
05:45:00PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:45:03PM YES, IT DID INCLUDE LIQUOR.
05:45:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, FOR THE RECORD.
05:45:07PM MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:45:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ME PERSONALLY IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE
05:45:10PM TO ME THAT -- THAT THIS IS BECOMING A CANE DISTILLERY OR
05:45:15PM NOT.
05:45:15PM MY QUESTION WAS WHY DOES A MICROBREWERY SERVE ALCOHOL.
05:45:20PM AND IT WAS ANSWERED BECAUSE IT IS PROBABLY BECOMING A CANE
05:45:24PM DISTILLERY; HOWEVER, THIS GOES WITH THE LAND, NOT THE OWNER.
05:45:28PM FOR SOME REASON THE OWNER DECIDES TO SELL, THIS COULD BECOME
05:45:32PM SOME MEGA LIQUOR STORE.
05:45:35PM AND STILL HAVE TO CHANGE -- STILL HAS TO COME BEFORE US, BUT
05:45:40PM IT IS POSSIBLE IT COULD HAPPEN AND THAT IS A CONCERN OF
05:45:43PM MINE.
05:45:44PM THANK YOU, MISS MANDEL.
05:45:46PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:45:48PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:45:49PM GOING BACK TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:45:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER AB 2-22-18, ORDINANCE BEING
05:45:57PM PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
05:45:59PM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR
05:46:04PM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE
05:46:09PM AND PACKAGE SALES OFF PREMISE AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
05:46:13PM BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOL CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND
05:46:17PM LIQUOR AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND
05:46:21PM LOCATED AT 3924 WEST SPRUCE STREET AS MORE PARTICULARLY
05:46:25PM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCE OR PART OF
05:46:30PM ORDINANCE AND CONFLICT ARE REPEALED.
05:46:32PM REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2019-92, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
05:46:37PM DATE.
05:46:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
05:46:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:46:41PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:46:42PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:46:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:46:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:46:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:46:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:46:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:46:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:46:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:46:56PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:47:02PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 17,
05:47:07PM 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
05:47:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, FILE
05:47:13PM NUMBER AB2-22-19.
05:47:15PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES.
05:47:17PM ITEM NUMBER 7 IS AB2-22-19.
05:47:23PM REQUEST FOR A LARGE VENUE BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON-PREMISE
05:47:29PM AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISE ON 450 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
05:47:35PM THE AB SALES IS 8879 SQUARE FEET WITH INDOOR AND OUTDOOR
05:47:42PM USES.
05:47:42PM IT IS ALREADY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR A LARGE VENUE BEER,
05:47:46PM WINE AND LIQUOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION ONLY.
05:47:49PM BACK IN 2014, BUT IT WAS A SMALLER AB SALES AREA AS WELL.
05:47:55PM THE TOTAL OCCUPANCY IS 735 PEOPLE.
05:47:59PM AND THE PROPOSED SPECIAL USE REQUIRES A DISTANCE SEPARATION
05:48:04PM OF 1,000 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL USES, INSTITUTIONAL USES AND
05:48:09PM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENT.
05:48:11PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THREE WAIVERS TO THESE DISTANT
05:48:16PM SEPARATIONS, THE RESIDENTIAL USE IS 65 FEET AS WELL AS
05:48:19PM THE AB SALES AND INSTITUTIONAL USE IS 378 SQUARE FEET.
05:48:26PM LAND DEVELOPMENT FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
05:48:28PM SHOWN MERE IS THE SITE DIRECTLY NORTH OF AMALIE ARENA.
05:48:33PM SHOWN HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:48:40PM CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
05:48:43PM AND LOOKING NORTH AND SOUTH AND WEST AND EAST OF THE SITE.
05:48:58PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
05:49:05PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
05:49:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:49:09PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER.
05:49:11PM PETITIONER?
05:49:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DIDN'T GET SWORN IN.
05:49:21PM PETITIONER, ARE YOU THERE?
05:49:24PM >>CLERK: PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
05:49:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BRETT MASHCHAK.
05:49:36PM PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
05:49:40PM [SWEARING IN]
05:49:45PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:49:46PM BRETT MASHCHAK.
05:49:53PM LONGWOOD, FLORIDA, 33279.
05:49:57PM HERE REPRESENTING YARD HOUSE THIS EVENING.
05:50:00PM WE ARE HERE PROPOSING NEW YARD HOUSE LOCATION VENUE FOR GOOD
05:50:06PM FOOD, GOOD ATMOSPHERE, MUSIC AND BEER.
05:50:11PM WE ARE WELL KNOWN FOR OUR OVER 100 TAPS ON FILE.
05:50:18PM AND WE ARE LOOKING HERE TO EXPAND THIS AND BUILD INTO THE
05:50:22PM WATER DISTRICT AND BE A PART OF THAT VENUE.
05:50:30PM WE FEEL LIKE WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS IN THIS AREA SINCE IT
05:50:33PM IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
05:50:34PM IT IS -- YOU KNOW, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME AREAS WHERE
05:50:38PM YOU ARE CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL AND OTHER USES.
05:50:41PM BUT THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT A VIBRANT LOCATION FOR PEOPLE TO
05:50:46PM MILL ABOUT AND BE A PART OF.
05:50:47PM SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE WITH
05:50:53PM REGARDS TO THIS SITE.
05:50:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS?
05:50:59PM SEEING NONE.
05:51:00PM IS THIS A RESTAURANT?
05:51:03PM >> YES, IT IS A PRIMARY RESTAURANT.
05:51:06PM LIQUOR SALES AT YARD HOUSE LOCATIONS GENERALLY ARE ONLY IN
05:51:10PM THE 30%, 35% RANGE DEPENDING ON LOCATION.
05:51:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO YOU CRAFT YOUR OWN BEER AND DISTILL YOUR
05:51:17PM OWN LIQUOR?
05:51:18PM >> WE DO NOT DISTILL OUR OWN LIQUOR.
05:51:20PM WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH COMPANIES TO HAVE BEER MADE FOR US.
05:51:25PM WE DO NOT MAKE ANYTHING ON-SITE.
05:51:28PM BUT WE DO HAVE LOCAL BEERS, NATIONAL BEERS, INTERNATIONAL
05:51:33PM BEERS ON TAP WITH REVOLVING CHALK BOARD SELECTION THAT, YOU
05:51:40PM KNOW, IS GENERALLY LOCAL AREAS AND SOMETHING TO TRY.
05:51:45PM WE PRIDE OURSELVES OF HAVING ALL VARIETIES FOR ANYBODY WHO
05:51:48PM LIKES THEM.
05:51:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE A PACKAGE STORE?
05:51:55PM >> WE ARE PACKAGE PER SE IS ESSENTIALLY THE ABILITY TO BE
05:52:00PM ABLE TO SELL DRINKS WITH -- TO-GO ORDERS, DELIVERY ORDERS,
05:52:09PM SUCH AS THAT.
05:52:10PM AS THE GOVERNOR HAS STARTED ALLOWING WITH RESTAURANT SALES.
05:52:16PM THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS.
05:52:17PM IT IS NOT FOR BUYING BOTTLES OF ALCOHOL OR SUCH LIKE THAT.
05:52:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T KNOW, MISS SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, WAS
05:52:26PM THAT JUST DURING THE PANDEMIC?
05:52:30PM IS IT PERMANENT NOW?
05:52:31PM OKAY.
05:52:32PM MY CONFUSION.
05:52:32PM ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:52:36PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO
05:52:39PM THIS?
05:52:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:52:43PM >> SECOND.
05:52:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OH, I AM -- I AM SORRY.
05:52:47PM I CAN'T ACTUALLY -- YEAH, I CAN.
05:52:49PM OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION.
05:52:53PM >> YES.
05:52:55PM THERE ARE SPEAKERS OUTSIDE FOR THE MUSIC AND FOR CERTAIN
05:53:01PM SPORTING EVENTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE ON THE TV.
05:53:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
05:53:06PM AND WHAT HOURS OF OPERATIONS ARE YOU GOING -- ARE THEY --
05:53:12PM >> THEY HAVE NOT OFFICIALLY SAID, BUT USUALLY THE HOURS OF
05:53:17PM OPERATION ARE SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, 11 A.M. TO 11:30 P.M.
05:53:21PM AND FRIDAY AND SATURDAY FROM 11 A.M. TO 1 A.M.
05:53:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS BARNES.
05:53:29PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, THE APPLICANT STATED
05:53:33PM CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14 WHICH IS HOURS OF OPERATION.
05:53:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHICH IS.
05:53:37PM >>ANNIE BARNES: I HAVE THE SHEET HERE.
05:53:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 7:00 TO 3:00 IN THE MORNING.
05:53:45PM >>ANNIE BARNES: SO RESTAURANTS ENDING AT 3 A.M. SEVEN DAYS A
05:53:51PM WEEK.
05:53:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ENDING AT 3 A.M.
05:53:54PM SIR?
05:53:55PM >> YES.
05:53:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU LEFT.
05:53:57PM I CAN'T SEE YOU ANY LONGER.
05:53:58PM THANK YOU.
05:53:59PM ARE YOU ADDING A STIPULATION INTO THE HOURS YOU MENTIONED?
05:54:04PM >> WE WILL NOT BE -- YES, THOSE HOURS ARE FINE FOR US.
05:54:07PM WE WILL MEET THOSE REQUIRED HOURS.
05:54:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I ASK, WHICH HOURS ARE FINE FOR US,
05:54:16PM THE ONES YOU MENTIONED OR THE ONE THAT WERE READ.
05:54:21PM >> THE ONES THAT WERE READ.
05:54:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU THOUGHT I WAS SLEEPING.
05:54:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
05:54:28PM TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, 22-19.
05:54:35PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
05:54:37PM DEPARTMENT.
05:54:37PM I AM NOT A MEMBER OF PUBLIC BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY TO ALLOW
05:54:42PM LIQUOR SALES TO GO WITH EXECUTIVE ORDER DURING THE PANDEMIC
05:54:47PM AND CODIFIED IN STATE LAW.
05:54:48PM WE DETERMINED PREVIOUSLY THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE PRESIDENT
05:54:53PM OFF-SITE CONSUMPTION OR PACKAGE SALES APPROVED IN ORDER TO
05:54:57PM EXERCISE, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO SELL OR HAVE TO-GO SALES
05:55:02PM UNDER STATE LAW.
05:55:03PM AS LONG AS YOU COMPLY WITH THE STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS, THERE
05:55:05PM ARE A NUMBER OF REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF WHERE THE ALCOHOL
05:55:07PM HAS TO BE WHEN YOU TAKE IT OUT OF THE RESTAURANT AND WHAT
05:55:10PM KIND OF CONTAINER IT HAS TO BE IN AND SO FORTH.
05:55:14PM AS LONG AS YOU COMPLY WITH THOSE, IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO
05:55:19PM HAVE THE PACKAGE SALE ABILITY IN ORDER TO DO -- IF WHAT THEY
05:55:22PM ARE INTENDING TO DO IS WHAT IS PRESCRIBED.
05:55:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:55:28PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ.
05:55:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE.
05:55:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
05:55:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
05:55:35PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:55:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AB 2-22-19, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST
05:55:42PM READING CONSIDERATION.
05:55:43PM A ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOL
05:55:48PM BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND
05:55:51PM PACKAGE SALES OFF PREMISE CONSUMPTION.
05:55:53PM MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOL
05:55:58PM CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR AT OR THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT
05:56:02PM AND LAND LOCATED 450 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE AS DESCRIBED IN
05:56:07PM EXCEPTION 3 PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT OR REPEAL
05:56:10PM ORDINANCE NUMBER 22-1491 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:56:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:56:21PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:56:22PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSS.
05:56:24PM SEEING NONE?
05:56:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE MUSIC PART WILL BE THE SAME AS THE
05:56:28PM LIQUOR PART OR STAY OPEN --
05:56:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU WANT TO REOPEN?
05:56:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT REOPENED.
05:56:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO OPEN THE AMERICA BY COUNCILMAN
05:56:42PM MIRANDA AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:56:44PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:56:45PM YOU HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:56:52PM >> MUSIC WILL PLAY WHEN WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
05:56:56PM THE SOUNDTRACK DURING THE COURSE OF THE DAY AND PUT TOGETHER
05:57:00PM BY THE MANAGER AND TEAM SPECIFIC TO EACH RESTAURANT.
05:57:03PM I WOULD ONLY ANTICIPATE US BEING OPEN PAST OUR NORMAL
05:57:07PM BUSINESS HOURS IF THERE WAS SOME KIND OF SPECIAL EVENT THAT
05:57:10PM WOULD BRING THAT ABOUT.
05:57:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:57:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT OUTSIDE AMPLIFIED
05:57:24PM NOISE WILL GO ON UNTIL 1 A.M.?
05:57:34PM >> WE GENERALLY HAVE OUR MUSIC ON WHILE WE ARE OPEN, YES.
05:57:38PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:57:43PM I JUST WANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD CHAPTER 14, HOURS OPEN
05:57:50PM UNTIL 3:00.
05:57:51PM IF YOU LIKE TO ADD A CONDITION REGARDING AMPLIFIED SOUND,
05:57:55PM THAT CAN BE ADDED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
05:57:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:58:06PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THIS A SPORTS BAR, SIR?
05:58:10PM >> YES, THERE ARE SPORTS ON TV.
05:58:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE WE PLAYING LIKE A LOT -- TOP 40 MUSIC
05:58:18PM OR JUST LITTLE SMALL MUSIC FOR THE SPORTS FAN.
05:58:21PM WHAT ARE WE SAYING HERE?
05:58:23PM >> GENERALLY IT'S CLASSIC ROCK AND MODERN ROCK.
05:58:29PM SO IT'S -- IT IS A FULL GENRE OF MUSIC FROM TIMES GONE TO
05:58:36PM CURRENT.
05:58:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM TRYING TO GET A GRASP.
05:58:38PM I KNOW WHAT SPORTS BAR DO AND TIMES YOU ARE DOWN IN
05:58:42PM CHANNELSIDE -- I AM TRYING TO VISUALIZE WHAT YOU GOT GOING
05:58:45PM ON.
05:58:46PM >> WE OPPONENT TO CONSIDER OURSELVES A SPORTS BAR.
05:58:48PM WE CONSIDER OURSELVES A RESTAURANT, GATHERING PLACE THAT
05:58:53PM SERVING BEER AND HAVE SPORTS ON TV.
05:58:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
05:58:56PM ALL RIGHT.
05:58:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S -- LET ME GO TO MR. SHELBY.
05:59:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, IF THAT -- IF THAT IS A CONCERN, AND I
05:59:04PM DON'T RECALL SPECIFICALLY MISS BARNES PRESENTATION, BUT YOU
05:59:08PM LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREAS IN TERMS OF WHAT IS AROUND
05:59:11PM THEM IN ORDER TO MAKE A RECORD.
05:59:13PM JUST IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS.
05:59:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I ASK --
05:59:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET ME GO TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:59:22PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:59:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: TYPICALLY IN THESE SITUATIONS, MR. CHAIR,
05:59:29PM YOU ARE THE ONES TO MAKE THE MOTION TO LIMIT THE OUTDOOR
05:59:33PM AMPLIFIED SOUND TO 10 AND 11:00.
05:59:35PM YOU DIDN'T DO THAT.
05:59:36PM DID YOU GET LEGAL COUNSEL NOT TO DO THAT.
05:59:39PM ARE WE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT?
05:59:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM WAITING IF YOU BEEN AT MY OPINION IF WE
05:59:46PM GO TO THE MOTION AND DISCUSSION.
05:59:48PM THEN I WILL GIVE MY OPINION.
05:59:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DIDN'T PROPOSE IT BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU
05:59:53PM WERE.
05:59:53PM TYPICALLY IN THESE CASES.
05:59:55PM CHANNEL DISTRICT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE KNOW THAT
05:59:58PM NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T LIKE LATE NIGHT SOUND OUTSIDE.
06:00:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL BE GIVING MY OPINION THEN.
06:00:05PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:00:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE GENTLEMAN SAID HE IS A RESTAURANT.
06:00:08PM I WOULD IMAGINE THEN THE RESTAURANT IS OPEN AS LONG AS THE
06:00:11PM BAR IS OPEN?
06:00:13PM FOR DINNER OR TAKEOUT?
06:00:16PM >> YES.
06:00:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PARDON ME?
06:00:19PM >> THE RESTAURANT -- FOOD WILL BE SERVED UNTIL THE
06:00:21PM RESTAURANT IS CLOSED.
06:00:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T SAY THAT -- NOT THE RESTAURANT
06:00:24PM IS CLOSED.
06:00:25PM YOU ARE TRYING TO PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH.
06:00:27PM YOU ARE NOT TRYING BUT IT IS COMING OUT THAT WAY.
06:00:30PM IF YOU ARE SELLING ALCOHOL PAST 1:00 IN THE MORNING, 1 UNTIL
06:00:35PM 3:00, THE BAR WILL CLOSE AT 1:00 OR 3:00?
06:00:42PM >> IF WE ARE SELLING ALCOHOL PAST 1, THE BAR WILL STILL BE
06:00:46PM OPEN.
06:00:46PM BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE BAR IS OPEN, THE FOOD SERVICE WILL
06:00:50PM BE OPEN.
06:00:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:00:52PM I GOT THE ANSWER.
06:00:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:00:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE SEE THE SITE PLAN OF THIS.
06:00:57PM WELL, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT -- I WANTED TO SEE THE SITE MAN
06:01:05PM BECAUSE I REMEMBER SEEING THIS WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, BUT I
06:01:09PM WAS HOPING TO SEE THE SITE PLAN AGAIN TODAY BECAUSE MY
06:01:11PM QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH HOW MUCH OUTDOOR AREA THERE IS AND
06:01:16PM IN WHAT DIRECTION IT FACES.
06:01:18PM WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE.
06:01:21PM DO WE HAVE LIKE A TERRACE OR PATIO.
06:01:24PM >> ELEVATIONS AS WELL.
06:01:26PM THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE
06:01:28PM APPLICANT.
06:01:28PM THIS IS THE EAST AND WEST AND THIS IS THE NORTH AND SOUTH
06:01:46PM AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY -- I DON'T THINK THE ELMO BACKS --
06:01:50PM THAT ONE DOES NOT BACK OUT ENOUGH FOR ME TO SHOW YOU THE
06:01:53PM SITE PLAN, BUT THERE SHOULD BE A COPY AND I HAVE A COPY AS
06:01:56PM WELL.
06:01:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A COPY.
06:01:59PM I GUESS MY QUESTION AS I AM LOOKING AT THIS, IS IT LOOKS
06:02:03PM LIKE A COVERED BAR PATIO AND AN OPEN AND ALSO CALLED A
06:02:14PM CARPORT.
06:02:14PM COVERED OR NOT COVERED.
06:02:16PM >> THE TOTAL INDOOR AREA IS 11,830 SQUARE FEET AND OUTDOOR
06:02:22PM AREA IS 4,000.
06:02:24PM I DO BELIEVE THERE IS SOMEONE HERE FROM THE -- THE
06:02:29PM RESTAURANT AS WELL AND OTHER REPRESENT FIVE.
06:02:32PM I DON'T THINK WE HAVE AN AUTHORIZED AGENT FORM BUT AS PUBLIC
06:02:43PM COMMENT.
06:02:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU OKAY?
06:02:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, IF COUNCILMAN CARLSON DOESN'T MAKE THE
06:02:51PM MOTION, I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO LIMIT AUDITORY -- SORRY.
06:03:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
06:03:08PM >> RICHARD RENNINGER.
06:03:10PM I LIVE IN TAMPA FLORIDA AND THE CHIEF DEVELOPMENT OFFICER OF
06:03:15PM DARDEN RESTAURANTS WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE YARD HOUSE.
06:03:18PM SO I COULD ADD -- I WAS NOT PLANNING TO SPEAK, BUT I -- YOU
06:03:23PM KNOW, SINCE SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS, I CAN TELL THAT YOU WE
06:03:27PM HAVE 80 RESTAURANTS.
06:03:28PM THIS WILL BE SIMILAR TO THE 80 RESTAURANTS.
06:03:31PM THE ONLY TIME WE ARE OPEN LATER THAN OUR TYPICAL HOURS IS
06:03:36PM IF AMALIE OR SOMETHING ADJACENT HAS AN EVENT.
06:03:42PM WE TONIGHT DRIVE EVENTS.
06:03:44PM WE DON'T HAVE LIVE MUSIC.
06:03:45PM WE ARE GENERALLY A RESTAURANT LIKE WE DESCRIBED, THAT
06:03:49PM PARTICULAR PIECE THAT MAKES IT A BAR.
06:03:50PM WE HAVE 100 ON AVERAGE TAPS, SO YOU CAN GET LOCAL BEERS.
06:03:55PM LOTS OF THINGS LIKE THAT BUT OUR CHEF-DRIVEN FOOD IS MUCH
06:04:02PM THE DRIVER OF THE BUSINESS.
06:04:04PM WE HAVE SPORTING EVENTS BUT NOT SPORTS BAR.
06:04:07PM THE CULINARY PIECE IS WHAT DRIVES OUR BUSINESS.
06:04:10PM WE ARE ADJACENT TO MANY LARGE SPORTING EVENTS ACROSS THE
06:04:13PM COUNTRY, LA LIVE WOULD BE ONE.
06:04:15PM THE BRAVES STADIUM WILL BE ANOTHER.
06:04:18PM AND WE WORK IN HARMONY WITH THOSE.
06:04:20PM OUR LANDLORD THERE.
06:04:22PM WE WORK IN GREAT HARMONY.
06:04:24PM WE ARE NOT LOUDER OR LARGER OR OUTSIDE OF THOSE EVENTS.
06:04:27PM WE DON'T DRIVE THAT.
06:04:28PM WE ARE A PARTICIPANT, I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY -- MUCH THE
06:04:33PM WAY THE CIGAR IS ACROSS THE ATRIUM AT THE AMILIE ARENA.
06:04:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:04:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OUR DARDEN RESTAURANT CHAIN.
06:04:48PM AND YARD HOUSE OWNED.
06:04:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: A GOOD CHAIN.
06:04:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
06:04:56PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:04:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE BEEN IN THE ONE IN ORLANDO.
06:04:59PM I WON'T TESTIFY ANYTHING BUT I HAVE BEEN ON THE ONE IN
06:05:02PM ORLANDO.
06:05:02PM MY QUESTION IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN, IT IS BIG ON THE
06:05:06PM INSIDE, BUT THE OUTSIDE SPACE IS SMALLER.
06:05:09PM CAN YOU TELL US HOW OFTEN YOU ACTIVATE THE OUTSIDE SPACE AND
06:05:12PM WHAT IT IS USED FOR.
06:05:13PM >> THE SMALLER OUTSIDE SPACE WILL BE A PATIO WHEN THE
06:05:17PM WEATHER IS APPROPRIATE FOR THAT.
06:05:18PM AND THE LARGER -- WHEN YOU HAVE LARGE EVENTS IS THE ONLY
06:05:21PM TIME WE WOULD USE ALL OF THE OUTSIDE SPACE.
06:05:24PM SO IT IS MEANT TO BE INDOOR-OUTDOOR -- NOT INDOOR-OUTDOOR,
06:05:30PM BUT KIND OF LIKE A PARK AREA TUESDAY MORNING AT 10:00.
06:05:33PM AND THEN WHEN THERE IS AN EVENT AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER
06:05:36PM THE PLACE YOU USE THE LARGER AREA.
06:05:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
06:05:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
06:05:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOESN'T ANSWER THE HOURS OF OPERATION
06:05:50PM VERSUS THE MUSIC.
06:05:51PM WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
06:05:53PM THEY NEVER GAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER.
06:05:56PM I CAN'T MAKE A MOTION.
06:05:57PM THEY HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION.
06:05:58PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.
06:05:59PM >> I COULD SPEAK TO MUSIC IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.
06:06:03PM INTERNALLY FOCUSED THE SPEAKERS.
06:06:05PM THEY ARE NOT FOR OUTSIDE.
06:06:06PM LOUD ENOUGH FOR OUR GUESTS.
06:06:08PM WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DRIVE MUSIC OR DRIVE PEOPLE TO THE
06:06:12PM PLACE WITH OUR SPEAKER SYSTEM.
06:06:14PM IT IS APPROPRIATELY SIZED SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE EITHER A GAME
06:06:18PM OR MUSIC WHILE YOU ARE IN OUR FACILITY.
06:06:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME CLARIFY THAT THE AMPLIFIED MUSIC
06:06:27PM DOES NOT GO OUTSIDE, JUST INSIDE?
06:06:31PM >> IT WOULD GO TO THE SIDEWALK OUTSIDE AND TWO BLOCKS AWAY,
06:06:34PM YOU WOULDN'T HEAR.
06:06:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DEPENDS ON THE WIND AND WHAT KIND OF
06:06:38PM WEATHER.
06:06:38PM >> IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE HEARD MORE THAN ON OUR PROPERTY.
06:06:43PM IT'S -- THAT IS NOT THE GOAL.
06:06:44PM THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT IS SET UP.
06:06:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ.
06:06:51PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
06:06:54PM DEPARTMENT.
06:06:54PM I KNOW WE ARE TALKING OF A SPECIFIC BRAND AND RESTAURANT,
06:06:59PM COMPANY, BUT, AGAIN, THIS WET ZONES ZONING -- THIS AB PERMIT
06:07:04PM WILL TRAVEL WITH THE PROPERTY.
06:07:05PM WHATEVER LIMITATION YOU IMPOSE OR FAIL TO IMPOSE WILL TRAVEL
06:07:09PM WITH THIS PROPERTY REGARDLESS OF WHO THE OPERATOR IS IN THE
06:07:12PM FUTURE.
06:07:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: APPLICANT, I AM NOT FACING YOU, BUT YOU CAN
06:07:19PM STILL HEAR ME, CAN'T YOU?
06:07:24PM >> YES, SIR IN IROFULVEN MIRANDA WHAT DID YOU SAY ANY DIDN'T
06:07:27PM HEAR YOU.
06:07:27PM [LAUGHTER]
06:07:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
06:07:30PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:07:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU -- TYPICALLY IN SITUATIONS WHERE
06:07:35PM FACILITIES LIKE THIS ARE IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
06:07:37PM WE ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY WILL BE WILLING TO LIMIT THE
06:07:40PM OUTDOOR -- JUST OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND TO 10 OR 11:00.
06:07:46PM IS THAT -- IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU ALL OR BURDENSOME?
06:07:53PM >> IF OUR HOCKEY TEAM IS PLAYING ON THE WEST COAST PAST
06:07:56PM 11:00, THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM.
06:07:58PM BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD BE -- I THINK THERE IS A
06:08:02PM DECIBEL LEVEL WE CAN AGREE TO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THAT
06:08:06PM THE NOISE IS NOT THAT LOUD.
06:08:07PM WE DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS OR COMMENTS ABOUT NOISE.
06:08:20PM IT HAS NEVER BEEN OUR CHALLENGE.
06:08:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
06:08:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:08:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
06:08:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
06:08:31PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:08:34PM YOU STILL HAVE YOUR MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
06:08:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVED.
06:08:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
06:08:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:08:43PM EXCUSE ME, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
06:08:47PM I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.
06:08:48PM I APOLOGIZE.
06:08:50PM NO, I DON'T.
06:08:51PM I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.
06:08:52PM THE MAJOR HALL ACROSS THE STREET.
06:08:57PM NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN CLOSES AT 12:00 AND USUALLY -- I AM
06:09:01PM NOT GIVING EVIDENCE, BUT I SUPPOSE THEY WANE OFF THEIR
06:09:06PM ALCOHOL, LIQUOR AND BEER SALES AT A CERTAIN TIME WHEN I WAS
06:09:10PM THERE.
06:09:10PM I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.
06:09:11PM WE ARE HAVING ENOUGH PROBLEMS DOWN IN CHANNELSIDE WITH
06:09:15PM AMPLIFIED MUSIC.
06:09:16PM I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ADD TO THIS.
06:09:18PM AND I PERMANENTLY DON'T THINK THEY ARE ANOTHER PACKAGE STORE
06:09:22PM THAT NEEDS TO BE DOWN THERE.
06:09:24PM THAT IS JUST MY OPINION ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
06:09:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ.
06:09:34PM CAN WE -- SORRY I AM CONFUSED IF WE CHANGED SOMETHING, BUT
06:09:38PM ARE WE ALLOWED TO ADD THAT -- THE LIMITATION ON OUTDOOR
06:09:42PM AMPLIFIED SOUND.
06:09:44PM DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE TO REQUEST IT, OR CAN I PUT IT ON
06:09:48PM HERE OR STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN ON HERE.
06:09:51PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: RIGHT NOW THERE IS -- THE NOISE
06:09:52PM ORDINANCE.
06:09:53PM WE HAVE GOT -- KIND OF IN LIMBO.
06:09:55PM SO TYPICALLY YOU ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY ARE WILLING TO
06:09:59PM AGREE TO IT.
06:10:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA DID THAT.
06:10:02PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: REMIND COUNCIL SEEKING THREE WAIVERS.
06:10:06PM THE DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM 1,000 FEET DOWN TO 65 FEET FROM
06:10:13PM THIS ESTABLISHMENT TO RESIDENTIAL USES.
06:10:15PM SO CERTAINLY COUNCIL IS ENTITLEDED TO CONSIDER WHETHER THAT
06:10:21PM IS COMPATIBLE OR IF THE WAIVER HAS BEEN JUSTIFIED.
06:10:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED, IS THAT
06:10:27PM CORRECT?
06:10:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, IT HAS.
06:10:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT IS A SUBJECT THAT THE COUNCIL
06:10:32PM WISHES TO EXPLORE YOU NEED TO REOPEN THE HEARING.
06:10:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A REQUEST TO REOPEN THE HEARING.
06:10:37PM I DIDN'T MAKE THE MOTION.
06:10:38PM I SAID A REQUEST TO REOPEN THE HEARING.
06:10:41PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
06:10:46PM CARLSON.
06:10:46PM ALL IN FAVOR --
06:10:47PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
06:10:50PM DEPARTMENT.
06:10:50PM MY ANSWER WAS TYPICALLY -- BECAUSE THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS
06:10:54PM STILL IN FLUX, NO LIMITATIONS ON OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND IN
06:11:00PM THE CODE AND TYPICALLY YOU WOULD ASK A APPLICANT TO AGREE TO
06:11:05PM LIMIT OUTSIDE AMPLIFIED SOUND.
06:11:08PM I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL REQUESTING THREE WAIVERS ONE OF
06:11:11PM WHICH IS TO REDUCE THE DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM RESIDENTIAL
06:11:14PM USES WHICH IS REQUESTING TO GO FROM 1,000 FEET DOWN TO 65
06:11:18PM FEET.
06:11:18PM I AM SORRY, COUNCIL, IF I COULD JUST -- THIS IS ALSO -- THIS
06:11:24PM AREA ALTHOUGH IT IS KIND OF NEAR THE EDGE OF THE TWO
06:11:28PM DISTRICTS, THIS IS WITHIN THE ARENA DISTRICT WHERE SOUND IS
06:11:32PM MEASURED ON A DECIBEL STANDARD.
06:11:34PM SO THAT MAXIMUM DECIBEL LEVEL IS 87 DECIBELS.
06:11:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
06:11:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE STAFF
06:11:45PM REPORTS.
06:11:45PM PARTICULARLY THE STAFF REPORT OF THIS CASE.
06:11:47PM AND DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION AND YOU 27-129 WITH REGARD TO
06:11:54PM THIS, AS WELL AS MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ STATED THE REQUIREMENT
06:11:59PM OF MEETING THE NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS FOR GRANTING OF A
06:12:02PM WAIVER.
06:12:02PM SO I WOULD DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT IN YOUR
06:12:06PM DETERMINATION AND TO APPLY THE CODE ON YOUR DECISIONS BASED
06:12:10PM ON THAT AND NOT ON ANY NECESSARILY OUTSIDE EVIDENCE AND
06:12:14PM EVIDENCE THAT YOU MAY HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE YOURSELF AND
06:12:16PM IF YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS SURROUNDING --
06:12:19PM REGARDING THE SURROUNDING AREA.
06:12:20PM YOU HAVE THE HEARING OPEN NOW AND THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY
06:12:24PM TO ASK MISS BARNES AND ANY QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT,
06:12:27PM YOU CAN ASK MISS BARNES.
06:12:30PM CITRO.
06:12:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:12:32PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU SAID THIS LAND IS IN THE ARENA
06:12:37PM DISTRICT?
06:12:37PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THAT'S CORRECT.
06:12:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOT IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
06:12:43PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THE ARENA DISTRICT.
06:12:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALLOWS FOR DIFFERENT SOUNDS IN THE ARENA
06:12:50PM DISTRICT.
06:12:51PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: ALLOWS ON A DECIBEL RATHER THAN
06:12:54PM PLAINLY AUDIBLE.
06:12:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOT A NIGHT CLUB, A RESTAURANT.
06:12:59PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: MY UNDERSTANDING IT IS A RESTAURANT.
06:13:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, WE ASKED THE QUESTION INDIRECTLY.
06:13:08PM BUT ASK THE APPLICANT WHO IS ON SCREEN.
06:13:10PM WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO ACCEPT ENDING AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR
06:13:15PM SOUND AT 11:00?
06:13:25PM >> IF THAT IS THE COUNCIL'S REQUEST, WE CAN DEFINITELY ABIDE
06:13:33PM BY THAT.
06:13:33PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THAT WOULD BE A CONDITION ADDED.
06:13:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ, DISTANCE SEPARATION
06:13:50PM BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
06:13:51PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: RESIDENTIAL BETWEEN INSTITUTIONAL
06:13:53PM USES AND FROM OTHER AB ESTABLISHMENTS.
06:13:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EVEN THOUGH THIS IS THE ARENA DISTRICT,
06:13:59PM THERE ARE STILL RESIDENTS LIVING WITHIN THAT AREA, DISTANCE
06:14:02PM SEPARATION.
06:14:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION
06:14:08PM ANSWERED BY STAFF EITHER BY PICTURES.
06:14:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOT ONLY AB SALES BUT RESIDENTIAL.
06:14:17PM >>ANNIE BARNES: CORRECT, AB AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
06:14:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: POINT I AM TOO IG TO GET TO IS RESIDENTIAL.
06:14:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:14:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST BECAUSE IT IS THE ARENA DISTRICT HE
06:14:31PM DOESN'T MEAN IT IS JUST A WILD WEST SHOW.
06:14:33PM THERE ARE RESIDENTS?
06:14:35PM >>ANNIE BARNES: CORRECT.
06:14:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU CAN.
06:14:38PM SHE DIDN'T SPECIFY SPECIFICALLY THE DIFFERENCES OF THE
06:14:43PM DISTANCE OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF DISTANCE SEPARATION.
06:14:46PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:14:49PM THE REQUEST IS TO REDUCE THE DISTANCE FROM OTHER INAB SALES
06:14:54PM ESTABLISHMENTS FROM 1,000 FEET TO 65 FEET.
06:14:56PM RESIDENTIAL USES 1,000 TO 65 FEET.
06:14:59PM AS WELL AS INSTITUTIONAL USES 1,000 TO 378.
06:15:03PM HOWEVER, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE INSTITUTION --
06:15:08PM SORRY, THE RESIDENTIAL USE AND OTHER AB SALES
06:15:11PM ESTABLISHMENTS.
06:15:11PM THE AB SALES ESTABLISHMENT IS IN THE SAME BUILDING AS THE
06:15:15PM RESIDENTIAL USE IT MY UNDERSTANDING.
06:15:16PM SO IT MIGHT BE A CONVENIENCE STORE OR WHAT NOT THAT HAD AB
06:15:21PM SALES.
06:15:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST RESIDENTIAL.
06:15:25PM >>ANNIE BARNES: YES.
06:15:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
06:15:29PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:15:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CARLSON, DID YOU GET YOUR QUESTION
06:15:36PM ANSWERED ABOUT AMPLIFIED SOUND?
06:15:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE YOU SAID, NO CLEAR YES.
06:15:41PM SO I --
06:15:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO UNLESS YOU WANT TO PURSUE IT A LITTLE BIT
06:15:46PM MORE, WE WILL GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:15:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WILL BE MY QUESTION.
06:15:50PM DO -- DO WE HAVE THEM SAYING THAT OUTSIDE NO AM POLICE TIDE
06:15:58PM SOUND AFTER 11:00.
06:16:02PM IF NOT, IT WILL BE HARD FOR ME TO SUPPORT THIS.
06:16:05PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:16:09PM THAT IS CURRENTLY NOT ON THE SITE PLAN AND WILL NEED TO BE
06:16:12PM ADDED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
06:16:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:16:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BRETT, WILL YOU ACCEPT PUTTING ON THE
06:16:18PM SITE PLAN THAT YOU WILL END THE AMPLIFIED MUSIC AT 11 P.M.?
06:16:26PM OR ANY AMPLIFIED SOUND, OUTDOOR?
06:16:32PM >> YES.
06:16:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE YOU GO.
06:16:34PM THANK YOU.
06:16:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:16:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM A LITTLE SYMPATHETIC RIGHT NOW.
06:16:46PM I GUESS I AM A LITTLE SYMPATHETIC RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE
06:16:50PM RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE HOCKEY ARENA.
06:16:52PM I LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER BUSINESSES AROUND THERE AND I WOULD
06:16:55PM HATE THAT HE IS RIGHT -- IF ON THE WEST COAST A GAME
06:16:58PM PLAYING, THAT WILL BE A LITTLE LATER THAN 10 OR 11:00.
06:17:02PM THAT WOULD BE UNFAIR FOR THAT BUSINESS THERE.
06:17:04PM AND I DON'T THINK WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS GOING TO BE A LOT,
06:17:11PM LOT -- A PROBLEM THAT WE WILL BE HAVING AND I WOULD HATE FOR
06:17:15PM THEIR BUSINESS TO BE HURT GIVING RESTRICTIONS AND RIGHT
06:17:18PM ACROSS FROM THE ARENA.
06:17:19PM THAT IS A PROBLEM.
06:17:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:17:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I NOTICED IN THE IMAGES OF THE -- WHERE
06:17:25PM THIS PROPERTY WILL GO, NO ONE MENTION THAT THERE IS THE
06:17:28PM ADDITION HOTEL WITH A ROOFTOP SWIMMING POOL THAT HAS A
06:17:33PM DEEJAY THAT PLAYS MUSIC AND ALL OUTDOORS.
06:17:36PM NOBODY MENTIONED THAT.
06:17:38PM I AM JUST SAYING IT IS THERE.
06:17:39PM I THINK THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION IS OVERLY COMPLICATED.
06:17:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN, I AM -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND -- I
06:17:49PM WILL TELL YOU MY REAL REASON.
06:17:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU KNOW, I WISH WE COULD -- I WISH WE COULD
06:17:53PM DIVIDE BETWEEN MUSIC AND A GAME ON.
06:17:56PM AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN.
06:17:58PM AND SO I -- I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU.
06:18:01PM THIS IS LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE STADIUM WHICH
06:18:05PM IS WHY I WANTED TO SEE THE SITE PLAN, BECAUSE I WANTED TO
06:18:08PM SEE THAT THE NOISE IF AMPLIFIED IS FACING OUT.
06:18:11PM I KNOW -- -- YEAH, IT IS GRAY, BUT -- I AM NOT -- I AM --
06:18:23PM WELL, YES.
06:18:24PM I -- I WILL SUPPORT THIS WITHOUT THE TIME LIMITATIONS JUST
06:18:31PM BECAUSE I FEEL THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES MADE GOOD POINTS.
06:18:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WELL, I CANNOT SUPPORT IT.
06:18:41PM PACKAGE SALES.
06:18:45PM I WILL BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU ABOUT THAT.
06:18:47PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
06:18:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
06:18:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
06:18:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:18:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:18:55PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOUR MOTION STANDS.
06:19:00PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, DOES THAT STILL STAND.
06:19:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:19:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
06:19:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
06:19:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
06:19:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:19:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:19:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:19:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SHE WILL GET IT RIGHT.
06:19:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
06:19:24PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA, CARLSON, CITRO VOTING
06:19:37PM NO.
06:19:37PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 17,
06:19:44PM 2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
06:19:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, AB2-22-24.
06:19:56PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:20:00PM AB 2-22-24.
06:20:03PM REQUEST FOR 1602 WEST SNOW AVENUE.
06:20:06PM FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON PREMISE AND OFF-PREMISE
06:20:13PM PACKAGE CONSUMPTION.
06:20:14PM TOTAL AB SALES AREA IS 3324 SQUARE FEET.
06:20:19PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A CORRECTION ON -- FOR THE RECORD.
06:20:23PM BASED UPON THE STAFF REPORT, THE STAFF REPORT INDICATES 2287
06:20:31PM SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR AREA.
06:20:33PM I TRANSPOSED TWO NUMBERS AND SHOULD BE 2827 SQUARE FEET.
06:20:39PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM
06:20:43PM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS FOR 250 FEET TO ZERO FEET.
06:20:47PM THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE HYDE PARK URBAN VILLAGE.
06:20:53PM AND THE SUITE IS ABOUT RIGHT HERE.
06:20:57PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CURRENTLY RIGHT HERE ON THE
06:21:07PM CORNER.
06:21:08PM DIRECTLY WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:21:12PM AND NORTHEAST.
06:21:19PM AND SOUTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:21:23PM STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT BASED ON THE DISTANCE
06:21:29PM SEPARATION REQUESTED.
06:21:30PM AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:21:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:21:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THOUGHT THIS WAS -- THAT WE HEARD THIS
06:21:39PM YEARS AGO.
06:21:40PM >>ANNIE BARNES: CORRECT.
06:21:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AN EXPANSION OF THE ORIGINAL SQUARE
06:21:44PM FOOTAGE?
06:21:45PM >>ANNIE BARNES: CORRECT.
06:21:46PM ON THE STAFF REPORT, IT WAS PREVIOUS ME -- AB-21-08.
06:21:51PM AND THEY ARE ADDING ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE.
06:21:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
06:21:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PETITIONER.
06:22:04PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:22:09PM COLIN RICE FOR THE APPLICANT, BOUZY LCC WITH LIZ KELLER WITH
06:22:15PM OUR LAW FIRM, 101 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD, SUITE 2800, TAMPA,
06:22:21PM FLORIDA, 33602.
06:22:23PM YOU ARE CORRECT.
06:22:24PM THIS SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR.
06:22:25PM WE WERE BACK BEFORE YOU FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR.
06:22:28PM AND THAT IS BECAUSE -- THIS IS REALLY JUST A CORRECTION TO A
06:22:31PM NEW AND INCREASED INTERIOR SPACE.
06:22:36PM SO I WILL DETAIL THE CHANGES AND WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
06:22:39PM QUESTIONS.
06:22:39PM BUT THIS IS A RESTAURANT.
06:22:41PM THE APPROVED USE EXISTING BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON PREMISE.
06:22:47PM PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.
06:22:50PM NONE OF THAT IS CHANGING.
06:22:51PM ALL OF THIS IS REMAINING THE SAME.
06:22:53PM NEXT.
06:22:54PM JUST TO ORIENT YOU AGAIN, WE ARE IN HYDE PARK VILLAGE KIND
06:22:58PM OF ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CORNER OF SOUTH ROME AND WEST
06:23:02PM SNOW.
06:23:03PM NEXT.
06:23:03PM AND TO DETAIL THE CHANGES, THIS IS THE APPROVED SITE PLAN IN
06:23:08PM EXISTENCE.
06:23:09PM THIS ESTABLISHMENT IS GOING IN AND APPROVED.
06:23:11PM BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT FOR YOU THE AREA IN QUESTION HERE.
06:23:14PM WE HAVE GOT THE EXISTING APPROVED SPACE HERE.
06:23:21PM AND THE NEXT SLIDE, WE WILL SHOW YOU HIGHLIGHT IN YELLOW
06:23:25PM WHERE WE HAVE EXPANDED.
06:23:27PM AND SO THE NEXT SLIDE WE ARE GOING TO ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT
06:23:31PM AND SHOW YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED LIFE SAFETY PLAN WE ARE
06:23:35PM TALKING ABOUT.
06:23:35PM THIS IS THIS SPACE HERE.
06:23:37PM NEXT SLIDE.
06:23:38PM AND SO OUR PROPOSED LIFE SAFETY PLAN, WHAT HAD HAPPENED
06:23:42PM HERE, THERE WAS A CEILING HEIGHT ISSUE WITH THE BEAM.
06:23:45PM IT WAS TOO SHORT.
06:23:46PM SO WHAT HAD HAPPENED ALONG -- WHERE LIZ IS POINTING, THAT IS
06:23:50PM UNION USABLE SPACE AND TOO SHORT.
06:23:52PM SO COME IN FROM THE TOP LEFT.
06:23:55PM AND IN RECONFIGURING THE SPACE, THERE WAS OPPORTUNITY TO GO
06:23:58PM TOWARD THE GARAGE PREDOMINANTLY FOR AUGMENTED KITCHEN SPACE.
06:24:04PM THE MAJORITY OF THE EXPANSION NOT FOR OCCUPANT USE BUT A
06:24:08PM MORE ROBUST KITCHEN AND TAKE AWAY FROM THE BAR TOP AREA THAT
06:24:13PM PREVIOUSLY WAS APPROVED.
06:24:15PM NEXT SLIDE.
06:24:16PM THE SAME BUSINESS PLAN.
06:24:18PM SAME DESIGN AESTHETIC.
06:24:20PM SAME TENANT.
06:24:22PM WE WANT TO CALL OUT AND EXPLAIN WHY THE INCREASE IS THERE,
06:24:25PM THE OPERATIONAL ADVANTAGES INHERENT WITH THIS.
06:24:28PM MISS BARNES DID POINT OUT THE SEPARATION WAIVER.
06:24:32PM THE SAME WAIVER THAT WAS APPROVED PREVIOUSLY.
06:24:36PM THE SAME BUILDING OF MEAT MARKET AND NOTHING ON THE GROUND
06:24:39PM THAT CHANGED.
06:24:40PM SUFFICIENTLY PARKED.
06:24:42PM SURPLUS OF PARKING WITHIN THE OVERALL SITE.
06:24:45PM WITH THAT, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND HAPPY TO
06:24:49PM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
06:24:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:24:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ANY OUTDOOR
06:24:53PM AMPLIFIED SOUND OR MUSIC?
06:24:56PM >> NO.
06:24:56PM AN OUTDOOR SPACE AND JUST DINING TABLES AND NOT INTENDED FOR
06:25:00PM THAT.
06:25:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AWESOME, THANKS.
06:25:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
06:25:06PM DID YOU HAVE PACKAGE SALES BEFORE?
06:25:10PM >> YES, SIR.
06:25:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU DID?
06:25:12PM >> WE DID.
06:25:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY, THANK YOU.
06:25:15PM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
06:25:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
06:25:22PM TO THIS?
06:25:23PM SEEING NONE.
06:25:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:25:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
06:25:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
06:25:30PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:25:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, ITEM NUMBER 8,
06:25:34PM FILE NUMBER AB2-22-24, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
06:25:38PM READING CONSIDERATION.
06:25:39PM ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC
06:25:45PM BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND
06:25:48PM PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION AND MAKING LAWFUL THE
06:25:52PM SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR AT
06:25:55PM OREGON FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OF LAND LOCATED 600 SNOW
06:26:01PM AVENUE AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXCEPTION 3
06:26:04PM PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCES ARE REPEALED.
06:26:06PM PROVIDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021-43, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
06:26:13PM DATE.
06:26:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
06:26:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:26:17PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:26:20PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:26:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
06:26:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:26:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:26:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:26:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:26:31PM [APPLAUSE]
06:26:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:26:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:26:37PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:26:40PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD NOVEMBER 17, 25022
06:26:45PM AT 9:30 A.M.
06:26:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE WE GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS, MR.
06:26:53PM SHELBY, HANDED US THIS PAPER.
06:26:56PM I AM SURE IT IS FOR --
06:26:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TUESDAY.
06:27:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A DISCUSSION YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING
06:27:02PM CONCERNING.
06:27:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MAY I.
06:27:04PM I WANT TO MAKE THIS VERY BRIEF BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO TAKE
06:27:08PM UP THE TUESDAY SPECIAL CALL WITH THIS HOUSEKEEPING.
06:27:13PM PASSED OUT PROVIDED BY THE FACILITATOR REVISED AS OF
06:27:17PM ACTUALLY TODAY THE AGREED UPON PROCESS THAT I WANTED TO
06:27:20PM SHARE WITH YOU, CITY COUNCIL, SO YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN
06:27:24PM ADVANCE.
06:27:25PM SHE IS AWARE OF THE PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY COUNCIL
06:27:29PM AS PROPOSED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THANK YOU.
06:27:36PM AND THAT IS THE FORMAT THAT THIS WILL TAKE PLACE.
06:27:40PM I AM GOING TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION FOR CLARIFICATION.
06:27:45PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE CALENDAR FOR NOVEMBER 1, YOU WILL SEE
06:27:48PM THERE ARE THREE PREVIOUS MOTIONS THAT WERE MADE FOR THAT
06:27:51PM DATE.
06:27:51PM AND THAT WAS BEFORE WE HAD THE FACILITATOR SIGNED ON.
06:27:55PM AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO CAUSE ANY CONFUSION ON TUESDAY, SO
06:27:59PM WE CAN JUST ROLL THAT IN ALL TOGETHER OR SOME OF THEM CAN BE
06:28:02PM STRUCK, FOR INSTANCE, COUNCIL, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT
06:28:06PM TO MAKE IT A CHARTER QUESTION WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A CITY
06:28:09PM COUNCIL ATTORNEY IS NOT AVAILABLE.
06:28:10PM WE CAN CHANGE THAT TO ANOTHER DATE AND NOT HAVE THAT ON THE
06:28:14PM DISCUSSION ON TUESDAY.
06:28:14PM AND UNLESS YOU THINK THAT IS RELATIVE TO THE CHARTER.
06:28:18PM THE SAME FOR THE OTHER TWO ITEMS THERE.
06:28:20PM SO WE CAN HAVE THAT ALL APPEAR ON THE CHARTER -- ON THE
06:28:24PM AGENDA, I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT EVERYTHING WILL BE
06:28:27PM ROLLED INTO THE FACILITATED DISCUSSION UNLESS YOU FEEL
06:28:30PM DIFFERENTLY.
06:28:31PM AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE OFF.
06:28:35PM ONE OF THEM I WOULD RECOMMEND IS DISCUSSION OF GOING OUT ON
06:28:38PM A TANGENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY AND AT THE END OF THE
06:28:42PM MEETING AND SAVE TIME ON THAT.
06:28:44PM BUT YOUR CALL.
06:28:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:28:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS TO
06:28:50PM US NOW SO WE KNOW IN ADVANCE A PLAN TO FOLLOW.
06:28:53PM I THINK THIS IS VERY WELL ORGANIZED.
06:28:55PM AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE ARE THREE ITEMS THERE ON THE
06:28:58PM CALENDAR.
06:28:59PM AND SHOULD WE -- I THINK WE WILL GET TO IT ON TUESDAY.
06:29:02PM IF WE FEEL IT NOT NECESSARY TO DISCUSS A CERTAIN TOPIC AS
06:29:05PM YOU MENTIONED, WE CAN PUT IT TOWARD A STAFF REPORT SO WE
06:29:09PM DON'T SPEND -- WE FOCUS ON THE ISSUE OF THE CHARTER AND THAT
06:29:13PM IS WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR, WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM THE COUNCIL
06:29:18PM ATTORNEY DISCUSSION.
06:29:18PM SURE WE HAVE THIS.
06:29:21PM AND THESE GUIDELINES AND TIME ALLOTMENT THAT WE CAN GO ON OR
06:29:27PM OFF THAT WITH THE FACILITATOR.
06:29:29PM I THINK IT IS VERY GOOD.
06:29:30PM A STRUCTURE FOR TUESDAY AND NOT WALKING INTO THIS BLINDLY
06:29:33PM WHERE WE DON'T KNOW THE PROTOCOLS.
06:29:34PM I THINK THIS IS VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
06:29:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS AND THE WAY IT WAS
06:29:40PM NOTICED THAT THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS TAKEN UP FRONT.
06:29:42PM OF COURSE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK QUESTIONS OF ANYBODY
06:29:45PM PRESENT AT THE WORKSHOP AS YOUR RULES WILL ALLOW AND YOU CAN
06:29:48PM CERTAINLY AMEND YOUR RULES AS YOU ARE FINDING THEM IF THIS
06:29:52PM HE NEED TO BE, BUT I WANTED TO BE CLEAR TO GET THAT OUT OF
06:29:55PM THE WAY TONIGHT.
06:29:55PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR ALLOWING ME TO DO THAT TONIGHT
06:29:59PM SO WE DON'T TAKE UP TIME CONTINUE TO TUESDAY.
06:30:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:30:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT MOTION WAS MINE IF THE CITY ATTORNEY OR
06:30:08PM OTHERS IN THE CITY SHOULD BE AVAILABLE -- OH, NO, I AM
06:30:11PM SORRY.
06:30:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY ALL ROLLED IN AT ONE POINT IN TIME
06:30:15PM WITH THE CONTINUANCES.
06:30:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE REASONING I HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT
06:30:19PM HAPPENS WHEN OUR COUNCIL ATTORNEY IS ABSENT BECAUSE THAT
06:30:25PM GOES TO STAFFING.
06:30:26PM AND RIGHT -- THAT IS IN THE CHARTER THAT WE CAN HAVE AN
06:30:33PM ATTORNEY AND I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS MORE THAN ONE AND
06:30:37PM TALKED ABOUT GETTING AN ASSISTANT.
06:30:38PM TO ME THAT IS A CHARTER ISSUE, BUT THE DISCUSSION -- THE
06:30:41PM DISCUSSION OF STAFF FOR CITY COUNCIL AND THAT WAS THE REASON
06:30:44PM THAT I ADD IT TO THIS PARTICULAR, THAT I WANT IT FOR THIS
06:30:53PM PARTICULAR MEETING.
06:30:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
06:30:55PM I UNDERSTAND THAT COMPLETELY.
06:30:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:30:58PM THANK YOU.
06:30:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: THREE THINGS REAL FAST.
06:31:02PM MARTY, I THINK WE OUGHT TO ADD THE GUIDELINES THAT WE --
06:31:07PM THAT WE APPROVED A FEW -- A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHICH
06:31:11PM SHOULD SAY EACH COUNCILMEMBER WILL PRESENT THEIR IDEAS AND
06:31:15PM THEN THERE WILL BE AN UP AND DOWN -- SHORT DISCUSSION, UP
06:31:18PM AND DOWN VOTE, AND KEEP MOVING THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE
06:31:25PM HOUR-LONG CONVERSATIONS.
06:31:25PM BUT SECOND CONVERSATIONS.
06:31:29PM SECONDLY, THREE SPECIFIC THINGS LISTED HERE BUT KEEP IN MIND
06:31:33PM THE BEGINNING OF NUMBER TWO IS THE BROAD DISCUSSION OF
06:31:36PM CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
06:31:37PM SO THEN MENTIONS A SPECIFIC ONE AFTERWARDS, BUT IT IS NOT --
06:31:42PM THE PROPOSAL -- EVERYBODY WILL BRING THEIR OWN IDEAS.
06:31:44PM AND I IMAGINE MOST OF THE IDEAS WILL GET SHOT DOWN.
06:31:47PM THE ONLY THING I WILL SAY IS THAT THERE IS A LOT OF LOBBYING
06:31:52PM GOING ON AND MISINFORMATION OUT THERE.
06:31:54PM I WOULD JUST ASK MY COLLEAGUES, THE.PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION.
06:32:00PM NOBODY WILL APPROVE SOMETHING THAT WILL HURT THE CITY.
06:32:03PM LET'S ALL BE OPEN TO EACH OTHER'S IDEAS AND HEAR WHAT THEY
06:32:07PM ARE.
06:32:07PM IF THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE NEED TO CLEAN UP.
06:32:10PM NOT INFRINGING ON EVERYBODY'S TURF AND THREATENING ANYBODY
06:32:15PM OR POWER PLAY THAT IF THESE GET APPROVED THAT IT HURTS
06:32:19PM SOMEBODY AND SOMEBODY WON.
06:32:20PM LET'S HAVE THE MIND SET TO HELP THE PUBLIC AND MAKE SURE
06:32:23PM THIS GOVERNMENT RUNS AS WELL.
06:32:25PM IF WE THINK WE CAN HELP IT RUN EVEN BETTER WE SHOULD APPROVE
06:32:28PM SOME OF THESE THINGS.
06:32:29PM EVEN IF WE DO APPROVE THEM, WE HAVE ONE OR TWO MORE CHANCES
06:32:33PM TO CHANGE THEM.
06:32:34PM THANK YOU.
06:32:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:32:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CARLSON.
06:32:38PM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR THAT RENDITION.
06:32:42PM YOU ARE RIGHT.
06:32:43PM A FEW OF US SAT ON THE CHARTER REVIEW.
06:32:45PM AND, BOY, WE -- WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE KNOW NOW, GOING TO BE
06:32:51PM HONEST WITH YOU.
06:32:52PM WITH ANYTHING, AS TIME GOES ON.
06:32:59PM THINGS CHANGE AND YOU FIND OUT THINGS THAT NEED TO BE
06:33:01PM CHANGED.
06:33:01PM LET'S NOT BE SO NERVOUS BECAUSE OF THE TIME OR OFFEND
06:33:05PM SOMEBODY OR HURT A CERTAIN BODY.
06:33:07PM BUT AGAIN LOOK WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY.
06:33:13PM THINGS DO CHANGE AND MR. SHELBY.
06:33:18PM I KNOW YOU HAVE A FEW OF MY QUESTIONS.
06:33:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EVERYBODY.
06:33:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BUT I KNOW YOU HAVE A FEW OF MINE.
06:33:24PM I THINK THERE ARE ABOUT TWO OR THREE.
06:33:26PM BUT, AGAIN, I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE IN A RESPECTFUL PLACE AND
06:33:30PM LISTEN TO EVERYBODY AND HAVE AN OPEN MIND TO WHAT SOME
06:33:33PM PEOPLE MAY BE PROPOSING.
06:33:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:33:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: ONE THING I WILL ASK COUNCILMEMBERS TO DO,
06:33:43PM THIS MAY BE FOR A MALL MY SNORT OF THEM, BUT THE CHARTER
06:33:48PM IDEAS IF THEY CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED BY ORDINANCE I HAVE ONE
06:33:51PM THAT I SUBMITTED FORWARD THAT I THOUGHT WAS UNIQUELY FOR THE
06:33:54PM CHARTER.
06:33:55PM AND APPARENTLY I WAS WRONG.
06:33:57PM SO JUST DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT BECAUSE MAKE WE CAN ACCOMPLISH
06:34:01PM SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE CHARTER MAKING IT A LOT EASIER IF
06:34:05PM THE BODY WANTS TO PROCEED.
06:34:08PM MY THOUGHT.
06:34:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE FINAL THING FOR MR. CARLSON.
06:34:16PM YOUR PROPOSAL WAS PROPOSED EARLIER -- SEVERAL WEEKS AGO AND
06:34:20PM YOU SAID IT WAS ORIGINALLY TO COME BACK ON NOVEMBER 3.
06:34:23PM I SENT OUT A MEMO RECENTLY TALKING OF THE TIME LINE IT WOULD
06:34:26PM TAKE TO BE ADOPTED.
06:34:27PM A SHORT TURN-AROUND TIME BUT PROBABLY THE BEST TIME FOR
06:34:31PM FIRST READING AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS ON TUESDAY ON THAT
06:34:34PM AGENDA WILL BE DECEMBER 1 FOR FIRST READING IF ANYTHING THAT
06:34:37PM COUNCIL CHOOSES TO GO FORWARD WITH.
06:34:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE NEED TO SCHEDULE THAT?
06:34:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS TUESDAY IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO IT.
06:34:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: INFORMATION REPORT.
06:34:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE.
06:34:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:34:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GIVING POSTHUMOUSLY TO SENIOR PASTOR
06:34:59PM ROBERT FUSTER FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND COMMITMENT TO THIS
06:35:03PM COMMUNITY AND IMPACT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:35:04PM HE WAS TRAGICALLY KILLED IN A CAR ACCIDENT, MY
06:35:07PM UNDERSTANDING.
06:35:08PM HE GAVE IN THE NORTH TAMPA AREA, HE USED TO GIVE OUT ALL THE
06:35:13PM TURKEYS AND FOOD AT THE BIG AT UNIVERSITY SQUARE MALL.
06:35:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
06:35:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:35:21PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:35:22PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:35:23PM IS THAT ALL, COUNCILMAN GUDES?
06:35:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S ALL.
06:35:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NONE.
06:35:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:35:34PM I WAS AT THE SONS OF ITALY HALL THE OTHER DAY AND THEY ASKED
06:35:38PM ME IF I KNEW ANYBODY IN THE CITY THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE
06:35:41PM THEM A COMMENDATION.
06:35:42PM AND I SAID I KNOW A GUY.
06:35:44PM AND THE COMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR COLUMBUS DAY TO BE
06:35:50PM PRESENTED TO THE SONS OF ITALY.
06:35:52PM THEY HAVE THEIR CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS SECTION INSIDE.
06:35:56PM AND TO PRESENT THEM A COMMENDATION FOR THAT.
06:36:00PM ALSO, I BELIEVE THE LODGE HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 1962 AND THEY
06:36:10PM ARE CELEBRATING 60 YEARS THIS AND THE 100 ANNIVERSARY COMING
06:36:14PM UP.
06:36:14PM IT IS A COMMENDATION I WILL PROVIDE ON-SITE THEM AT A FUTURE
06:36:19PM DATE.
06:36:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
06:36:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
06:36:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A COUPLE OF MOTIONS HERE.
06:36:27PM NUMBER ONE A REQUEST FROM THE WELCOME TO REMOVE 22-12 FROM
06:36:33PM THE ADOPTION PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED ON JANUARY 26, 2023 AT
06:36:38PM 5:01 P.M.
06:36:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
06:36:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE AND ALL IN FAVOR.
06:36:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN A MOTION THAT STEVEN BENSON PROVIDE
06:36:49PM A STAFF REPORT AT THE REGULAR SESSION MEETING DECEMBER 1 ON
06:36:53PM THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY CODE CHANGES BY THE WEST
06:36:59PM TAMPA CRA-CAC.
06:36:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
06:37:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
06:37:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AM I WRONG.
06:37:10PM A BIRTHDAY COMING UP HERE NEXT WEEK?
06:37:13PM ARE YOU SURE, NO?
06:37:15PM CHARLIE, BIRTHDAY?
06:37:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO BIRTHDAYS?
06:37:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GOING TO BE 28.
06:37:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HAPPY 28th BIRTHDAY TO COUNCILMEMBER
06:37:26PM MIRANDA.
06:37:26PM [APPLAUSE]
06:37:29PM AND THAT'S IT, THANK YOU.
06:37:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:37:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, REALLY FAST.
06:37:36PM I MOTIONED IT JANUARY 10.
06:37:38PM CITY OF TAMPA TO ANDREW CARTER AND DARLA PORTMAN SEPARATELY
06:37:46PM FOR PBA.
06:37:47PM THEY ARE BOTH LEAVING THEIR POSITIONS.
06:37:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA --
06:37:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: JANUARY 10.
06:37:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:37:57PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:37:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: REALLY FAST.
06:38:00PM I MOTION FOR A REPORT OF BETTER UTILIZING EXISTING
06:38:04PM CONTRACTING AND POTENTIAL SERVICES FOR SMALLER CONSTRUCTION
06:38:07PM PROJECTS THAT HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING BIDS FOR
06:38:10PM DECEMBER 15 OF THIS YEAR.
06:38:11PM STAFF REPORT, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
06:38:13PM A LOT OF TIMES WE GET THESE SMALL BIDS, LIKE I HAVE THIS --
06:38:18PM THIS PROJECT OUT ON -- WHAT IS IT OUT ON NINTH STREET FOR A
06:38:22PM SIDEWALK THAT IS 60,000, 70,000.
06:38:25PM WE CAN'T GET A BID.
06:38:27PM IT APPEARS FROM THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE.
06:38:29PM TO SEE WHAT AVAILABLE SERVICES AND I KNOW I MENTIONED THIS
06:38:33PM BEFORE AND COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED SOMETHING TO THAT
06:38:37PM EFFECT.
06:38:37PM A REPORT IF I MAY.
06:38:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:38:40PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:38:42PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:38:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: THEN ON MONDAY, I WILL BE COMMENTING ON A
06:38:45PM COMMENDATION TO THE TAMPA BAY YOUNG MARINES FOR RED RIBBON
06:38:49PM WEEK, IF I MAY.
06:38:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER VERANDA BARB
06:38:56PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:38:57PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:38:58PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:38:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY IF I MAY -- AND I BRIEFLY MENTIONED
06:39:04PM THIS -- WHICH IS WITH THE CHARTER REVIEW.
06:39:06PM I WAS TALKING -- I HAD TALKED ABOUT HAVING A DISCUSSION ON A
06:39:11PM CITY COUNCIL CHARTER AMENDMENT PATTERNED AFTER THE 27th
06:39:15PM AMENDMENT WHICH ESSENTIALLY SAYS CONGRESS IS -- IS REQUIRED
06:39:18PM THAT IF IT PASSES, A PAY INCREASE FOR ITSELF IT DOESN'T TAKE
06:39:22PM EFFECT UNTIL AFTER AN ELECTION.
06:39:24PM I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT WITH REGARDS TO THE CHARTER, BUT
06:39:28PM IT APPEARS WE CAN DO THAT BY ORDINANCE.
06:39:30PM I AM NOT ASKING FOR AN ORDINANCE BLAH-BLAH-BLAH.
06:39:32PM BUT JUST TO TALK ABOUT THAT IF I MAY ON DECEMBER 15, 2022 TO
06:39:37PM HAVE LEGAL HERE.
06:39:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:39:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL EXPLAIN IT, IF I MAY, SIR.
06:39:44PM LONG STORY SHORT, I WAS LOOKING TO AMEND THE CHARTER TO SAY
06:39:48PM IF CITY OF TAMPA COUNCIL EVER VOTES FOR ITSELF TO HAVE A PAY
06:39:51PM INCREASE OUTSIDE OF INFLATION, NOT COLAS OR ALL THAT STUFF
06:39:55PM WILL TAKE PLACE AFTER AN ELECTION IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT.
06:39:59PM I WAS LOOKING AT DOING THAT UNDER THE CHARTER THAT WE CAN
06:40:02PM ACTUALLY DO THAT BY SIMPLE ORDINANCE.
06:40:03PM SO I AM ASKING FOR A REPORT TO COME BACK IN DISCUSSION FOR
06:40:06PM THAT.
06:40:07PM NOT FOR AN ORDINANCE BY VOTING FOR THIS.
06:40:09PM YOU ARE NOT SUPPORTING THIS.
06:40:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST A DISCUSSION.
06:40:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN -- MARTIN SHELBY -- FROM THE CITY
06:40:19PM ATTORNEY?
06:40:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: BECAUSE I INQUIRED ON THAT.
06:40:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A VERY INTERESTING THING AND I WILL TALK TO
06:40:26PM THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THAT.
06:40:27PM AND -- BECAUSE IT IS VERY INTERESTING THAT SOME THINGS CAN
06:40:31PM BE DONE BY ORDINANCE AND MAY BE A SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION.
06:40:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, THAT IS WHY I SAID THAT TO INQUIRE
06:40:37PM ANY IDEAS THAT YOU HAVE.
06:40:38PM I ASSUME -- I MADE AN ASSUMPTION THAT WOULD NEED A CHARTER
06:40:43PM AMENDMENT, BUT APPARENTLY NOT.
06:40:45PM SO THAT'S IT.
06:40:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAVE BEEN
06:40:48PM WANTING TO DO THINGS BY ORDINANCE AND TOLD YOU COULDN'T DO
06:40:50PM IT UNLESS YOU HAD A CHARTER AMENDMENT.
06:40:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAYBE I AM TIRED, WHO KNOWS.
06:40:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:40:59PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:41:01PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:41:01PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:41:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR, JUST ONE.
06:41:05PM I DON'T THINK THAT WE -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I DON'T
06:41:10PM THINK WE HAVE GIVEN A COMMENDATION FOR LA GACETA FOR THEIR
06:41:15PM 100th ANNIVERSARY.
06:41:17PM TOMORROW NIGHT IS THE FILM BY LYNN DINGFELDER.
06:41:23PM MY OTHER JOB I AM -- I PROBABLY CAN'T GIVE IT TO YOU GUYS.
06:41:27PM YOU GUYS SHOULD GO IF YOU CAN.
06:41:29PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS -- I WOULD LIKE TO DELIVER A
06:41:32PM COMMENDATION TO THEM TOMORROW NIGHT FOR THEIR 100th
06:41:36PM ANNIVERSARY.
06:41:36PM IF ANY OF YOU ARE THERE, PLEASE JOIN ME.
06:41:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU DO IT AT 8:00?
06:41:40PM I AM GOING TO THE EQUALITY FLORIDA EVENT AND THEN HOP OVER.
06:41:44PM IF YOU WANT TO DO IT TOGETHER.
06:41:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THE MOVIE STARTS --
06:41:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MOVIE STARTS AT 7:00.
06:41:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THOUGHT IT STARTED AT 8:00.
06:41:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THOUGHT IT STARTED AT 7.
06:42:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 8:00.
06:42:01PM WHATEVER, I WILL BE THERE AS QUICK AS I CAN.
06:42:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU WERE THERE BEFORE THE MOVIE STARTS.
06:42:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THOUGHT THERE WAS A COCKTAIL HOUR.
06:42:11PM I DON'T KNOW.
06:42:11PM I WILL DOUBLE CHECK.
06:42:12PM >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:42:15PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:42:17PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:42:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE A MOUTHFUL.
06:42:23PM WISH TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO MR. -- EXCUSE ME, BROTHER
06:42:31PM ROBERT LAMBERT, WHO IS THE MOST WORSHIPABLE GRAND MASTER OF
06:42:36PM THE MOST WORSHIPABLE GRAND LODGE OF FLORIDA OF FREE AND
06:42:41PM ACCEPTED MASONS OFFSITE NOVEMBER 12.
06:42:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS HE A DEACON AS WELL BY ANY CHANCE?
06:42:51PM A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.
06:42:53PM CHAIRMAN CITRO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:42:57PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
06:43:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S IT.
06:43:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
06:43:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:43:07PM THANK YOU, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:43:09PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:43:10PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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