TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 27, 2022
5:01 P.M.

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05:07:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY
COUNCIL EVENING AGENDA HELD THIS DAY OCTOBER 27, 2022.
MR. SHELBY, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN, DO WE?
05:07:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE WILL DO IT VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
I DON'T EVEN SEE IT ON THE AGENDA.
05:07:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I DON'T EITHER.
05:07:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I KNOW IT IS ON THE AGENDA AND IN THE
INSTRUCTIONS.
INSTRUCTIONS FOR COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, CMT.
05:07:55PM >> THE BROADCAST IS NOW ATTENDING.
ALL ATTENDEES IN LISTEN-ONLY MODE.
05:08:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THOSE PEOPLE AT HOME PARTICIPATING ON
A COMMUNICATION DEVICE.
I AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY THIS EVENING,
OCTOBER 27, 2022.
AT THE 5:01 MEETING AND INSTRUCTIONS INCLUDING A CMT DEVICE
IS ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB SITE AT TAMPA.GOV.
AND ALSO IN THE NOTICE.
AND TO ADOPT THE CMT RULES, I WILL ASK THAT YOU WAIVE THE
RULES AND ADOPT THOSE.
05:08:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
FIRST WE NEED ROLL CALL.
I APOLOGIZE.
05:08:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
05:08:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
05:08:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
05:08:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.
05:08:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
05:08:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOTION MOVE ITEM 1-9.
05:08:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
YES, WE WILL HAVE HOUSEKEEPING.
MISS BARNES.
05:09:08PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
SEVERAL ITEMS TO CLEAN UP TONIGHT ON THE AGENDA.
THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM ITEM NUMBER 4, 22-09.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO BE HEARD
DECEMBER 8, 2022 AT 5:01.
05:09:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 4 FILE NUMBER
AB2-22-09.
05:09:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THE FIRST CONTINUANCE?
05:09:48PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
YES.
05:09:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK
TO THIS CONTINUANCE ONLY.
A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED.
05:10:02PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
NEXT ITEM ITEM NUMBER 9, REZ-22-101.
05:10:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM 9, REZ-22-101.
05:10:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THEIR FIRST MISNOTICE.
05:10:20PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
CORRECT.
05:10:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
THANK YOU MISS BARNES.
ITEM NUMBER 1, BF22-77365.
05:10:37PM >> McLANE EVANS.
ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED 2101 WEST
MAIN STREET.
THE CITY OF TAMPA IS REQUESTING DESIGNATION OF THIS PROPERTY
AS A BROWNFIELD AREA TO ASSIST IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS
THAT MAY RESULT IN THE PROPERTY.
EVIDENCE OF BENZOPYRENE AND ARSENIC HAVE BEEN FOUND AND
DETAILS ARE PROVIDED IN THE SITE REPORT ENTITLED STAFF
REPORT ON MAIN STREET PARK PROPOSED BROWNFIELD AREA
DESIGNATION BOTH AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW FROM THE CITY
CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE SIRE SITE.
NO ACTION IS REQUIRED BY CITY COUNCIL TODAY EXCEPT TO HOLD
THE HEARING AND ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED
NOVEMBER 17, COUNCIL WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADOPT
RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE PARK SITE AS A BROWN FIELD AREA.
ANY QUESTIONS?
05:11:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:11:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THIS THE PARCEL WE ACQUIRED RECENTLY,
THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH PARK?
05:11:46PM >> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A TITLE.
A PREVIOUSLY USED PARK ABOUT 2.3 ACRES.
05:11:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT'S THE ONE.
05:11:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM 1,
BF22-77365.
05:12:12PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:12:13PM >> SECOND.
05:12:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ANYBODY ONLINE?
05:12:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR ANYTHING TONIGHT.
NOTHING.
NADA, NICO, ZIP, ZERO, ZILCH.
05:12:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MUST NOT LIKE YOU.
05:12:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, WAS IT?
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED.
05:12:39PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, FILE NUMBER CIP AND CIS 2023-2027.
05:12:55PM >>MELISSA DICKENS:
GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, MELISSA DICKENS,
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
ANNUAL UPDATE OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION SCHEDULE OF
PROJECTS.
IT COMES BEFORE YOU AND I AM FILLING IN FOR DIEGO GUERRA ON
OUR TEAM.
CHAPTER 163 REQUIRES THAT THOSE PROJECTS WITHIN THE
CITY'S CIP THAT EFFECT AN ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE BE
UPDATED ANNUALLY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THIS -- EXCUSE ME, THIS AMENDMENT WOULD REPLACE THE EXISTING
SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS WITHIN THE PLAN.
PROJECTS ARE CATEGORIZED IN TERMS OF HOW THEY EFFECT AN
ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE AND THIS UPDATE IS ACCOMPLISHED BY
ORDINANCE.
THIS TABLE SHOWS THE LIST OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION
SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE ADDED WITHIN
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THERE ARE TOTAL OF 122 PROJECTS AFFECTING A BROAD RANGE OF
CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES PLANNING ACROSS THE
CITY.
FURTHER INFORMATION ON THESE PROJECTS IS ALSO AVAILABLE IN
THE STAFF REPORT IN YOUR PACKET.
THIS TABLE SHOWS HOW THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS ARE
CATEGORIZED.
YOU CAN SEE THE TWO LARGEST AREAS ARE TO ADDRESS AN EXISTING
DEFICIENCY OR TO REPLACE AN EXISTING FACILITY.
AND THIS BREAKS DOWN HOW CITY STAFF HAS CATEGORIZED THE
VARIOUS PROJECTS.
HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THE ELMO TONIGHT.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE OF
PROJECTS FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND
POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
STAFF FOUND THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS CONSISTENT
WITH COASTAL MANAGEMENT POLICIES LIMITING EXPENDITURES IN
THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE
ADOPTED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES
RELATED TO THE PRIORITIES FOR THE SCHEDULE AND FOUND THAT
THE PROJECTS WITHIN THE SCHEDULE FURTHERED SPECIFIC
INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED DIRECTION WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN FOR POTABLE WATER, STORMWATER, MOBILITY, RECREATION,
OPEN SPACE, AND SOLID WASTE.
AND YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE FY'23-'27 SCHEDULE
OF PROJECTS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND
POLICIES OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND RECOMMENDS
ADOPTION THIS EVENING.
I AM AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:15:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
SEEING NONE, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, FILE NUMBER CIP AND CIS '23-'27.
05:15:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:16:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
05:16:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:16:05PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER CIP ANDCIS
2023-2027.
ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING, AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040:
TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION AND
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION BY WILL HE PLACING THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE OF
PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2027 --
05:16:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
05:16:39PM >> YEAH, THANK YOU.
05:16:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE DON'T HAVE IT --
05:16:45PM >> IT WAS ON --
05:16:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE DON'T HAVE IT ON OURS.
05:16:48PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT ONE.
05:16:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE DON'T HAVE IT ON OUR DRAFT -- I MEAN ON
--
05:16:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST READ THIS?
OKAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE -- YEP, MOVE FILE NUMBER CIP AND CIS
2023-2027, ITEM NUMBER 2, SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
MORE NANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLACE BY REPLACING FISCAL YEAR
2022-2026 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS WITH THE
FISCAL 2023 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2027 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
SECTION SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS PROVIDE FOR APPEAL OF ALL
ORDINANCES AND SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE STATE.
05:17:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ARE WE USING -- NO, ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:17:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
05:18:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
05:18:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
05:18:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
05:18:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
05:18:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
05:18:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
05:18:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FOR MANICOTTI.
05:18:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SHE GOT THE FIRST ROUND.
[LAUGHTER]
05:18:24PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPT AT 9:30 A.M.
05:18:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAN-SCHOOL-CO.
05:18:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
VIERA AND MIRANDA TOGETHER IS VERANDA.
05:18:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ONE CANNOT MAKE A MOTION AND SECOND IT,
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
ANYONE -- ANYONE WHO IS GOING TO BE GIVING ANY TESTIMONY OR
WILL BE SPEAKING TO ANY OF THE OTHER QUASIJUDICIAL CASES,
WILL YOU PLEASE RISE TO BE SWORN IN.
[SWEARING IN]
05:19:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.
FILE NUMBER REZ-22-124.
POLICE WARNINGS.
05:19:21PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 3 IS REZ-22-124.
REZONE PROPERTY 1701 EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD, REQUEST FROM IG TO CI.
I WILL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO THE PLANNING
COMMISSION.
05:19:40PM >>EMILY PHELAN:
GOOD EVENING, EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING
COMMISSION STAFF.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING
DISTRICT AND THE SULPHUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE CLOSEST TRANSIT SHOT ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE
SITE.
ROWLETT PARK CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FOUR MILES SOUTHEAST AND
THE SITE IS NOT WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE.
SUBJECT SITE IS HERE AND OUTLINED IN PURPLE AND THE TRANSIT
STOP PREVIOUSLY STATED IS ABOUT RIGHT HERE.
THE SITE INTERFACES EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD AND CSX RAILROAD
ARE HERE.
EAST AND NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS A MIX OF COMMERCIAL,
INDUSTRIAL AND GENERAL USES.
TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE SITE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY USES, AS WELL
AS MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX.
THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE.
THE SUBJECT IS HERE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COMMUNICATION.
THE CMU-35 TO THE NORTH.
LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO THE EAST AND ALSO FOLLOWS BUSCH
BOULEVARD ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
AND THEN THE ORANGE COLOR IS RESIDENTIAL-10 THAT SURROUNDS
THE SITE.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND
NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONE PARCEL TO THE NORTH AND EAST.
TO THE NORTH OF EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD.
WHERE THERE ARE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS
AND MULTIFAMILY USES TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE,
THE CSX RAILROAD PROVIDES AB BUFFER.
THE ZONING WILL ALLOW BETTER UTILIZATION OF THE LAND THAT IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE ANTICIPATED UNDER THE LI DESIGNATION AND
ENSURES EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE
CITY'S POPULATION.
DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING IN
THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING A AREA, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
FINDS THE REQUEST COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
SURROUNDING AREA AND CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
UNDER THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DESIGNATION.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:22:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:22:10PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
JUST TO CONTINUE ON WHAT EMILY ALREADY STATED, THE REQUEST
IS TO REZONE FROM IG TO CI FOR 1701 BUSCH BOULEVARD.
I WILL SHOW THE SITE AGAIN ON THE ELMO.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE AREA,
BUT RAILROAD BREAKS UP THE INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 7.15 ACRES IN SIZE.
SO IT IS QUITE LARGE AND CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.
THERE ARE A MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND
RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
THE PROPOSED REZONING OF CI WILL ACT AS A BUFFER AND
TRANSITIONAL ZONING BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING TO THE
WEST AND SOUTH AND MORE INTENSE INDUSTRIAL USE TO THE EAST.
SO THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SITE SOUTH OF BUSCH BOULEVARD.
AND THEN DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE SITE IS ALSO ZONED CI.
AND THEN DIRECTLY EAST OF THE SITE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE SITE
-- PART OF THE SITE RIGHT IN THE PICTURE HERE.
HERE IS THAT INDUSTRIAL USE.
AND FURTHER ALONG EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD.
BASED UPON THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, STAFF FINDS THE
REQUEST CONSISTENT.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
05:23:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:23:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IS THAT THE OLD HOTEL SITE?
05:23:52PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
I AM NOT SURE.
I KNOW IT IS VACANT NOW.
I AM NOT SURE YEARS PRIOR IF IT WAS A HOTEL.
I DO KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT --
05:24:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YEAH --
05:24:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHERE CLOSE TO THAT.
05:24:08PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
MY UNDERSTANDING WILL BUILD ALY TELL AND
RESTAURANT.
05:24:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IT WAS THAT LOT.
IT IS WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.
05:24:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:24:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WHERE WAS THE OLD
SEA WOLF?
BASS IT FURTHER DOWN?
05:24:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
RIGHT NEXT TO THE NEW ONE.
[LAUGHTER]
ON 48th STREET AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PARKING LOT
FROM BUSCH GARDENS.
05:24:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
05:24:36PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
05:24:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:24:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO RELEVANCY BUT THE SEA WOLF -- THAT BUILDING
IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT A PAWN SHOP.
05:24:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE BACK SIDE WAS A VERY LARGE PIECE OF
PROPERTY.
05:24:52PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WENT WITH MY PARENTS WHEN I WAS TOO YOUNG.
MAYBE TOO YOUNG, WHO KNOWS.
05:24:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MRS. JEAN HOLLOWAY.
05:25:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
EUGENE HUDSON HOLLOWAY.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU, MISS BARNES.
PETITIONER.
05:25:14PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
JERICE BARBEE WITH ABBOTT GROUP.
TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33626.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE TODAY AND GETTING US ON
THE AGENDA SO QUICKLY.
STAFF, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
I JUST LIKE TO SAY I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT STAFF HAS
PRESENTED AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AS THE COMMISSIONER DID ASK EARLIER, THIS SITE WAS
PREVIOUSLY A HOTEL USE.
SO SEVERAL MONTHS BACK, WE CAME BACK AND ATTENDED A
PREAPPLICATION MEETING FOR A CONCEPT PLAN WE PUT TOGETHER
FOR A HOTEL USE AND RESTAURANT OUT FRONT AND THIS WAS THE
METHOD THAT WAS TOLD TO COME FORWARD WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
05:26:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GOOD PLACE FOR IT.
05:26:12PM >> WITH THE REZONING.
SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, OR IF NOT, I WILL RESERVE MY
TIME.
05:26:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
SEEING NONE, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE NUMBER REZ-22-124.
05:26:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:26:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
05:26:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:26:36PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
MOVE ITEM NUMBER 3, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 1701 EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD PRESCRIBED
IN IG, INDUSTRIAL GENERAL, TO CI, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I FIND THAT THE APPLICANT HAS MET HIS BURDEN OF PROOF TO
PROVIDE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY TOAD CODE AND FURTHER ADOPT THE
FINDINGS AND REASONING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY
STAFF REPORTS, ALL OF WHICH I INCORPORATE HERE IN MY
REMARKS.
05:27:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:27:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
05:27:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
05:27:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
05:27:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
05:27:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
05:27:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
05:27:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
05:27:34PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING ADOPTION WILL BE HELD NOVEMBER 17, 2022 AT
9:30 A.M.
05:27:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, FILE NUMBER AB2-22-17.
THANK YOU, MISS BARNES.
05:28:03PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM IS 8217 AT 951, EAST 7th AVENUE.
THE REQUEST FOR A RESTAURANT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.
CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISE ONLY.
THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A MIXED USE CORRIDOR ZONED YC-5
WHICH IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
THE DISTANCE FOR SEPARATION IS 250 FEET FROM OTHER AB SALES
ESTABLISHMENTS AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR SEVERAL WAIVERS.
ONE TO THE DISTANCE SEPARATION WAIVER.
THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL USE WITHIN THREE FEET.
AND THEN TO REDUCE SOME TRANSPORTATION-RELATED CODE ITEMS.
TOP REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACE FROM 15 TO 3.
AND TO REDUCE -- 15 TO 3, SORRY.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, TRANSPORTATION AND SOLID WASTE
FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT; HOWEVER, IT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT THE APPLICANT, IF APPROVED, PLANS TO COME
INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOLID WASTE-RELATED ITEMS.
THAT CONCLUDES -- OH, YOU NEED SOME PICTURES.
SHOWN HERE IS THE SITE.
AND YOU CAN SEE, THIS WAS LILY WHITE COURT.
THE AREA AROUND HERE.
SO THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
DIRECTLY NORTHEAST LOOKING TOWARD HISTORIC YBOR.
05:29:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:29:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:29:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANNIE, GO BACK TO THE FIRST SO I CAN SEE
THE SITE AGAIN.
THAT THE OLD CLEANERS THERE?
YEAH.
05:29:54PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
A LAUNDROMAT IN THE SAME BUILDING.
THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE.
AND DIRECTLY SOUTH AND EAST.
SO I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:30:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU, MISS BARNES.
PETITIONER.
05:30:26PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, JANE GRAHAM, FOUNDER OF
SUNSHINE CITY LAW, SUITE 100, SAFETY HARBOR.
I REPRESENT NIKOLE THOMPSON IN HER APPLICATION FOR AN
ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR
AT LOS CHAPO'S TACOS LOCATED 5951 7th AVENUE IN YBOR CITY.
LOS CHAPO'S TACOS IS A WELL-LOVED TACO RESTAURANT IN YBOR
CITY.
A WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESS KNOWN FOR BAARIA TACOS AND
MEXICAN-STYLE FOOD.
ALLOWING A WET ZONING FOR LOS CHAPO'S IS COMPLEMENTARY AND
COMPATIBLE TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
IT IS ZONED YC-5 FOR COMMERCIAL AND SERVICE OPERATIONS TO
SERVE RESIDENTS OF THE IMMEDIATE AREA AND ACTUALLY RIGHT BY
AND WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE RECENTLY APPROVED GAS WORX
DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS HEARD BY THIS COUNCIL IN AUGUST, A
TRANSIT-ORIENTED MULTIFAMILY RETAIL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
A PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.
A HISTORY OF ALCOHOL SALES IN THIS SHOPPING CENTER.
IN 2007, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED ORDINANCE 2007-195 TO
ALLOW SALES OF BEER AND WINE OFF-PREMISE AT THE CONVENIENCE
STORE IN SUITE D.
THIS CONVENIENCE STORE HAS SINCE CLOSED.
YOU HAVE SEVERAL LETTER FROM INDIVIDUALS IN THE CITY
SUPPORTING THIS APPLICATION.
AND I HAVE SOME MORE TO ENTER INTO THE RECORD TONIGHT IF I
MAY.
MADAM CLERK.
THANK YOU.
MY CLIENT IS ASKING FOR A PARKING WAIVER AND RESIDENTIAL USE
WAIVER.
THIS APPLICATION MEETS THE GENERAL STANDARDS AS REQUIRED
UNDER SECTION 27-129A FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
I ALSO HAVE A PHOTO OF THE ENCLOSURE AROUND THE EXISTING
DUMPSTER TO COMPLY WITH THE SOLID WASTE ISSUE THAT HAD BEEN
BROUGHT UP BY STAFF.
I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND BEFORE WE CLOSE, I WOULD LIKE TO -- I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU
TO HEAR FROM NIKOLE THOMPSON HERSELF WHO HAS A FEW WORDS.
05:32:58PM >> HELLO, MY NAME IS NIKOLE THOMPSON, AND I STAND BEFORE YOU
ASKING FOR THE AB-2 TO IMPROVE MY BUSINESS AND THE REQUEST OF
OUR CUSTOMERS.
I HAVE BEEN COMING TO YBOR SINCE HE WAS 18 AND MY LOVE FOR
YBOR HAS NEVER STOPPED.
I KNEW I WOULD HAVE A BUSINESS HERE ONE DAY.
I OPENED LOS CHAPO'S, I HAD NO IDEA HOW WE WOULD GROW AND
PEOPLE CLOSE TO TAMPA AND HOURS AWAY WOULD LOVE OUR TACOS.
250,000 FOLLOWERS IN TWO YEARS.
I AM WORKING TO OPEN MY THIRD LOS CHAPO'S IN BRANDON.
I STOOD IN FAVOR OF THE GAS WORX AND A PLACE TO GO FOR PEOPLE
WHO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WANT TO GROW IN YBOR AND I AM ASKING FOR THIS LICENSE TO
OFFER THE SAME THING AS THE OTHER RESTAURANTS HAVE.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO ME.
05:33:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:33:59PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:34:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:34:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE PARKING ISSUES, TO REDUCE TO THREE
PARKING SPACES.
05:34:09PM >> YES, SIR.
05:34:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HOW MANY ARE THERE NOW?
05:34:13PM >> THREE -- THERE ARE THREE.
RIGHT NOW.
JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THAT, MISS THOMPSON
HAS TRIED TO WORK THIS OUT WITH OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE
AREA AS FAR AS TALKING TO A PARKING GARAGE, TALKING A THE A
SCHOOL.
HAD DISCUSSIONS BUT HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO WORK ANYTHING OUT.
SHE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH DARYL SHAW WHO SAID ONCE
GAS WORX COMES ON LINE THEY MAY BE ABLE TO WORK SOMETHING
OUT, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, SHE WOULD LIKE TO GET THINGS
MOVING.
AND THE LAUNDROMAT HAS CLOSED.
05:34:49PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
OH, IT HAS.
05:34:52PM >> YES.
05:34:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
IS THE LAUNDROMAT PART OF THE SAME COMPLEX?
05:35:04PM >> YES, IT IS IN THE SAME SHOPPING CENTER.
05:35:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HAS SHE WORKED OUT A DEAL WITH THE LANDLORD
OF THE SAME COMPLEX PARK IN THOSE PLACES THERE?
05:35:14PM >> ABSOLUTELY, YES.
05:35:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WORKED OUT THE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT.
05:35:19PM >> IS IT A CONTRACT THAT IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN --
05:35:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HOW MANY SEATS ARE IN THE RESTAURANT?
05:35:26PM >> I THINK IT'S, LIKE, 40.
05:35:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LIKE 40 OR ARE 40.
05:35:32PM >> A LITTLE OVER 40.
05:35:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PEOPLE GOT TOGETHER IN ONE CAR, THERE WOULD
BE TEN CARS.
05:35:38PM >> TYPICALLY PEOPLE WALK FROM YBOR.
05:35:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:35:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW LONG HAS YOUR BUSINESS BEEN OPEN?
05:35:46PM >> TWO YEARS.
BUT I OWNED THE CONVENIENCE STORE PRIOR TO THAT.
05:35:49PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
OH, OKAY.
05:35:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
ITEM NUMBER 5, FILE NUMBER AB2-22-17.
05:36:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:36:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
05:36:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:36:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BEFORE I READ THE ORDINANCE, HOW LATE
ARE YOU OPEN?
05:36:13PM >> 11:
00.
05:36:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
11:00.
YOU WILL GET A LATER NIGHT CROWD WALKING DOWN 7th AVENUE.
ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS TO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SALES RESTAURANT.
CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
BEVERAGE OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT
OR TRACT OF LAND EAST 7th AVENUE.
TAMPA FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 AND
ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICTS ARE REPEALED.
REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2007-195, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE AND WITH THE WAIVERS THAT WERE REQUESTED.
SPECIFICALLY THE DISTANCE SEPARATION, I BELIEVE, AND THE
PARKING.
05:36:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:37:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
05:37:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
05:37:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
05:37:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
05:37:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
05:37:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
05:37:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
05:37:21PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 17, 2022 AT
9:30 A.M.
05:37:33PM >> THANK YOU.
05:37:34PM >> THANK YOU.
05:37:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE NUMBER AB
2-22-18.
05:37:43PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THE NEXT CASE IS AB 2-22-18, ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES FOR
LARGE VENUE, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.
AND ON-PREMISE AND OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.
3924 WEST SPRUCE STREET.
IT PREVIOUSLY DID HAVE AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES LICENSE
FOR A LARGE VENUE FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND PACKAGE
SALES; HOWEVER, THIS IS ADDING LIQUOR.
THE AB SALES AREA IS 49,660 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS THE SAME
SIZE AS IT WAS PREVIOUSLY.
IT'S LOCATED WITHIN A MIXED USE CORRIDOR AND THE DISTANCE
SEPARATION IS 250 FEET FROM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS
AND USES.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A DISTANCE SEPARATION WAIVER TO
A RESIDENTIAL USE THAT IS 91 FEET AWAY.
THIS REQUEST WAS PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED AS WELL.
AND I AM JUST GOING TO SHOW YOU THE SITE.
AND STAFF IS INCONSISTENT BASED ON THAT WAIVER.
SO THIS IS THE SITE HERE.
SOUTH OF SPRUCE STREET.
THIS IS OUT ON THE CORNER.
AND THEN FURTHER ALONG.
SORRY, AND THEN -- THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE.
AND EAST OF THE SITE.
AND SOUTH OF THE SITE, WITH PARTIALLY HAVING THE SITE IN THE
PHOTO.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
05:39:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
PETITIONER.
05:39:58PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
CHRIS BIRD WITH THE LAW OFFICES OF GRAY ROBINSON, EAST
JACKSON.
I'M HERE WITH JULIA MANDEL WITH THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICATION REQUESTS AB SALES PERMIT UNDER THE 4-COP
FOR THE SALE OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FOR CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES AND PACKAGED SALE OFF PREMISES.
IN ADDITION, THEY PLAN TO OPERATE A CRAFT DIDISTILLERY THAT
IS CONSISTENT WITH THE MICROBREWERY THAT CURRENTLY OPERATES
THERE.
AS YOU SEE IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE APPLICANT IS NOT SEEKING
ALTERATION OF THE SALES AREA AND OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED
PLANS.
THIS INCLUDES THE WAIVER PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.
THE ONLY CHANGE THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO ALLOW THE
SALE OF LIQUOR FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION AND PACKAGE SALES.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING THE 4-COP PERMIT TO ALTER OPERATION
OF CRAFT FACILITY.
THE SITE IS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND THE CRAFT DISTILLERY
WITHIN THE CI ZONE.
THE APPLICATION ONLY NEEDS MINOR CORRECTIONS OF THE SITE
PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND PLAN TO MAKE
CORRECTIONS.
WE SPOKE WITH STAFF AND WILL BE ADDING THE CRAFT DISTILLERY
USE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
THE APPLICANT MR. ESPINOSA HAS MADE HIMSELF AVAILABLE TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SALE OR OPERATION OF THE
BUSINESS AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
05:41:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
MR. BIRD, YOU ANSWERED ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
I WAS -- UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THIS IS A MICROBREWERY.
AND MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, WHY DOES A MICROBREWERY NEED
TO SELL ALCOHOL, BUT NOW YOU ARE TELLING ME THEY HAVE NOW
BECOME A MICROBREWERY/DISTILLER.
05:42:00PM >> THEY PLAN ON IT.
05:42:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OKAY.
BECAUSE YOU REALIZE WE GRANT THIS, IT GOES WITH THE
PROPERTY, NOT WITH THE OWNER.
05:42:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MISS BARNES.
05:42:12PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
LAND DEVELOPMENT.
I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL USE FOR CRAFT
DISTILLERY IN THE CI ZONING DISTRICT.
THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDED IF APPROVING THE APPLICATION
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
05:42:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
SEEING NONE, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE NUMBER AB-22-18.
05:42:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:42:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
05:42:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:42:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
IF I CAN INQUIRE.
DOES THAT CHANGE THE TITLE?
05:42:55PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
YES, LET'S CHANGE THE TITLE IN THE USE TABLE AS WELL.
05:43:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CAN WE REOPEN THE HEARING.
05:43:04PM >> REOPEN TO MAKE CLEAR --
05:43:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
REOPEN THE HEARING BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
05:43:14PM >> ULTIMATELY UP TO THE CITY -- JULIA MANDEL WITH THE LAW
FIRM OF GRAY ROBINSON, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
I WANT TO CLARIFY AND UP TO THE CITY ATTORNEY WHETHER THE
TITLE NEEDS TO CHANGE.
WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU FROM A ALCOHOL PERSPECTIVE IS THE
SALE OF ALCOHOL WHICH IS NOW ACCORDING TO THIS APPLICATION
TO INCLUDE THE SALE OF LIQUOR.
THE CURRENT USE OF THE PROPERTY AS A MICROBREWERY AND THE
PERSPECTIVE USE OF THE PROPERTY AS A CRAFT DISTILLERY IS NOT
REQUIRED FROM A LIQUOR LICENSE PERSPECTIVE, BUT IT IS BEING
ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN SO THERE IS NO CONFUSION DOWN THE
LINE AS TO WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.
I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IT NEEDS TO CHANGE THE TITLE.
WE CAN LEAVE IT UP TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO OPINE
ON, BUT BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, THIS IS -- THIS IS -- THING IS
THE THIRD TIME THIS HAS COME BACK BECAUSE IT HAS CHANGED
ITERATIONS OF BEING JUST A MICRO BREWERY WHERE YOU DIDN'T
HAVE THE SAME THINGS -- YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME PROVISIONS
IN THE CODE AND HAS MOVED INTO A RESTAURANT.
AND NOW HAS MOVED INTO THE RESTAURANT WHICH THE INCLUSION OF
DISTILLERY AS PART OF THE ACTIVITIES, BUT ALSO THE SALE OF
WHATEVER COMES OUT OF THE DISTILLERY WHICH IS LIQUOR OVER A
CERTAIN PERCENT.
I DON'T THINK IT GETS TO CHANGE THE TITLE.
THAT IS ULTIMATELY UP TO THE CITY ATTORNEY BUT I WANTED TO
GIVE THE BACKGROUND OF THOSE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN A WHILE.
05:44:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I INQUIRE.
EITHER THIS QUESTION FOR MISS MANDEL OR MISS BARNES.
DID THE STAFF REPORT CONTEMPLATE REVIEW BY THE LDC?
05:45:00PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
YES, IT DID INCLUDE LIQUOR.
05:45:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, FOR THE RECORD.
MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:45:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ME PERSONALLY IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE
TO ME THAT -- THAT THIS IS BECOMING A CANE DISTILLERY OR
NOT.
MY QUESTION WAS WHY DOES A MICROBREWERY SERVE ALCOHOL.
AND IT WAS ANSWERED BECAUSE IT IS PROBABLY BECOMING A CANE
DISTILLERY; HOWEVER, THIS GOES WITH THE LAND, NOT THE OWNER.
FOR SOME REASON THE OWNER DECIDES TO SELL, THIS COULD BECOME
SOME MEGA LIQUOR STORE.
AND STILL HAVE TO CHANGE -- STILL HAS TO COME BEFORE US, BUT
IT IS POSSIBLE IT COULD HAPPEN AND THAT IS A CONCERN OF
MINE.
THANK YOU, MISS MANDEL.
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
GOING BACK TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:45:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE NUMBER AB 2-22-18, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE
AND PACKAGE SALES OFF PREMISE AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOL CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND
LIQUOR AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND
LOCATED AT 3924 WEST SPRUCE STREET AS MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCE OR PART OF
ORDINANCE AND CONFLICT ARE REPEALED.
REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2019-92, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
05:46:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
05:46:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:46:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
05:46:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
05:46:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
05:46:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
05:46:52PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
05:46:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
05:46:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
05:46:56PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 17,
2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
05:47:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, FILE
NUMBER AB2-22-19.
05:47:15PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES.
ITEM NUMBER 7 IS AB2-22-19.
REQUEST FOR A LARGE VENUE BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON-PREMISE
AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISE ON 450 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
THE AB SALES IS 8879 SQUARE FEET WITH INDOOR AND OUTDOOR
USES.
IT IS ALREADY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR A LARGE VENUE BEER,
WINE AND LIQUOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION ONLY.
BACK IN 2014, BUT IT WAS A SMALLER AB SALES AREA AS WELL.
THE TOTAL OCCUPANCY IS 735 PEOPLE.
AND THE PROPOSED SPECIAL USE REQUIRES A DISTANCE SEPARATION
OF 1,000 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL USES, INSTITUTIONAL USES AND
OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THREE WAIVERS TO THESE DISTANT
SEPARATIONS, THE RESIDENTIAL USE IS 65 FEET AS WELL AS
THE AB SALES AND INSTITUTIONAL USE IS 378 SQUARE FEET.
LAND DEVELOPMENT FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
SHOWN MERE IS THE SITE DIRECTLY NORTH OF AMALIE ARENA.
SHOWN HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND LOOKING NORTH AND SOUTH AND WEST AND EAST OF THE SITE.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
05:49:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
SEEING NONE, PETITIONER.
PETITIONER?
05:49:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DIDN'T GET SWORN IN.
PETITIONER, ARE YOU THERE?
05:49:24PM >>CLERK:
PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
05:49:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
BRETT MASHCHAK.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[SWEARING IN]
05:49:45PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
BRETT MASHCHAK.
LONGWOOD, FLORIDA, 33279.
HERE REPRESENTING YARD HOUSE THIS EVENING.
WE ARE HERE PROPOSING NEW YARD HOUSE LOCATION VENUE FOR GOOD
FOOD, GOOD ATMOSPHERE, MUSIC AND BEER.
WE ARE WELL KNOWN FOR OUR OVER 100 TAPS ON FILE.
AND WE ARE LOOKING HERE TO EXPAND THIS AND BUILD INTO THE
WATER DISTRICT AND BE A PART OF THAT VENUE.
WE FEEL LIKE WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS IN THIS AREA SINCE IT
IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS -- YOU KNOW, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME AREAS WHERE
YOU ARE CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL AND OTHER USES.
BUT THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT A VIBRANT LOCATION FOR PEOPLE TO
MILL ABOUT AND BE A PART OF.
SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE WITH
REGARDS TO THIS SITE.
05:50:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS?
SEEING NONE.
IS THIS A RESTAURANT?
05:51:03PM >> YES, IT IS A PRIMARY RESTAURANT.
LIQUOR SALES AT YARD HOUSE LOCATIONS GENERALLY ARE ONLY IN
THE 30%, 35% RANGE DEPENDING ON LOCATION.
05:51:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SO YOU CRAFT YOUR OWN BEER AND DISTILL YOUR
OWN LIQUOR?
05:51:18PM >> WE DO NOT DISTILL OUR OWN LIQUOR.
WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH COMPANIES TO HAVE BEER MADE FOR US.
WE DO NOT MAKE ANYTHING ON-SITE.
BUT WE DO HAVE LOCAL BEERS, NATIONAL BEERS, INTERNATIONAL
BEERS ON TAP WITH REVOLVING CHALK BOARD SELECTION THAT, YOU
KNOW, IS GENERALLY LOCAL AREAS AND SOMETHING TO TRY.
WE PRIDE OURSELVES OF HAVING ALL VARIETIES FOR ANYBODY WHO
LIKES THEM.
05:51:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE A PACKAGE STORE?
05:51:55PM >> WE ARE PACKAGE PER SE IS ESSENTIALLY THE ABILITY TO BE
ABLE TO SELL DRINKS WITH -- TO-GO ORDERS, DELIVERY ORDERS,
SUCH AS THAT.
AS THE GOVERNOR HAS STARTED ALLOWING WITH RESTAURANT SALES.
THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS.
IT IS NOT FOR BUYING BOTTLES OF ALCOHOL OR SUCH LIKE THAT.
05:52:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I DON'T KNOW, MISS SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, WAS
THAT JUST DURING THE PANDEMIC?
IS IT PERMANENT NOW?
OKAY.
MY CONFUSION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO
THIS?
05:52:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:52:43PM >> SECOND.
05:52:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OH, I AM -- I AM SORRY.
I CAN'T ACTUALLY -- YEAH, I CAN.
OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION.
05:52:53PM >> YES.
THERE ARE SPEAKERS OUTSIDE FOR THE MUSIC AND FOR CERTAIN
SPORTING EVENTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE ON THE TV.
05:53:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OKAY.
AND WHAT HOURS OF OPERATIONS ARE YOU GOING -- ARE THEY --
05:53:12PM >> THEY HAVE NOT OFFICIALLY SAID, BUT USUALLY THE HOURS OF
OPERATION ARE SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, 11 A.M. TO 11:30 P.M.
AND FRIDAY AND SATURDAY FROM 11 A.M. TO 1 A.M.
05:53:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS BARNES.
05:53:29PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, THE APPLICANT STATED
CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14 WHICH IS HOURS OF OPERATION.
05:53:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WHICH IS.
05:53:37PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
I HAVE THE SHEET HERE.
05:53:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
7:00 TO 3:00 IN THE MORNING.
05:53:45PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
SO RESTAURANTS ENDING AT 3 A.M. SEVEN DAYS A
WEEK.
05:53:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ENDING AT 3 A.M.
SIR?
05:53:55PM >> YES.
05:53:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU LEFT.
I CAN'T SEE YOU ANY LONGER.
THANK YOU.
ARE YOU ADDING A STIPULATION INTO THE HOURS YOU MENTIONED?
05:54:04PM >> WE WILL NOT BE -- YES, THOSE HOURS ARE FINE FOR US.
WE WILL MEET THOSE REQUIRED HOURS.
05:54:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MAY I ASK, WHICH HOURS ARE FINE FOR US,
THE ONES YOU MENTIONED OR THE ONE THAT WERE READ.
05:54:21PM >> THE ONES THAT WERE READ.
05:54:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU THOUGHT I WAS SLEEPING.
05:54:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, 22-19.
05:54:35PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
DEPARTMENT.
I AM NOT A MEMBER OF PUBLIC BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY TO ALLOW
LIQUOR SALES TO GO WITH EXECUTIVE ORDER DURING THE PANDEMIC
AND CODIFIED IN STATE LAW.
WE DETERMINED PREVIOUSLY THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE PRESIDENT
OFF-SITE CONSUMPTION OR PACKAGE SALES APPROVED IN ORDER TO
EXERCISE, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO SELL OR HAVE TO-GO SALES
UNDER STATE LAW.
AS LONG AS YOU COMPLY WITH THE STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS, THERE
ARE A NUMBER OF REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF WHERE THE ALCOHOL
HAS TO BE WHEN YOU TAKE IT OUT OF THE RESTAURANT AND WHAT
KIND OF CONTAINER IT HAS TO BE IN AND SO FORTH.
AS LONG AS YOU COMPLY WITH THOSE, IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO
HAVE THE PACKAGE SALE ABILITY IN ORDER TO DO -- IF WHAT THEY
ARE INTENDING TO DO IS WHAT IS PRESCRIBED.
05:55:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ.
05:55:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
05:55:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
05:55:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:55:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
AB 2-22-19, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION.
A ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOL
BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND
PACKAGE SALES OFF PREMISE CONSUMPTION.
MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOL
CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR AT OR THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT
AND LAND LOCATED 450 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE AS DESCRIBED IN
EXCEPTION 3 PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT OR REPEAL
ORDINANCE NUMBER 22-1491 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:56:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSS.
SEEING NONE?
05:56:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE MUSIC PART WILL BE THE SAME AS THE
LIQUOR PART OR STAY OPEN --
05:56:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU WANT TO REOPEN?
05:56:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT REOPENED.
05:56:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO OPEN THE AMERICA BY COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
YOU HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:56:52PM >> MUSIC WILL PLAY WHEN WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
THE SOUNDTRACK DURING THE COURSE OF THE DAY AND PUT TOGETHER
BY THE MANAGER AND TEAM SPECIFIC TO EACH RESTAURANT.
I WOULD ONLY ANTICIPATE US BEING OPEN PAST OUR NORMAL
BUSINESS HOURS IF THERE WAS SOME KIND OF SPECIAL EVENT THAT
WOULD BRING THAT ABOUT.
05:57:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:57:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT OUTSIDE AMPLIFIED
NOISE WILL GO ON UNTIL 1 A.M.?
05:57:34PM >> WE GENERALLY HAVE OUR MUSIC ON WHILE WE ARE OPEN, YES.
05:57:38PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I JUST WANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD CHAPTER 14, HOURS OPEN
UNTIL 3:00.
IF YOU LIKE TO ADD A CONDITION REGARDING AMPLIFIED SOUND,
THAT CAN BE ADDED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
05:57:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:58:06PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IS THIS A SPORTS BAR, SIR?
05:58:10PM >> YES, THERE ARE SPORTS ON TV.
05:58:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ARE WE PLAYING LIKE A LOT -- TOP 40 MUSIC
OR JUST LITTLE SMALL MUSIC FOR THE SPORTS FAN.
WHAT ARE WE SAYING HERE?
05:58:23PM >> GENERALLY IT'S CLASSIC ROCK AND MODERN ROCK.
SO IT'S -- IT IS A FULL GENRE OF MUSIC FROM TIMES GONE TO
CURRENT.
05:58:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I AM TRYING TO GET A GRASP.
I KNOW WHAT SPORTS BAR DO AND TIMES YOU ARE DOWN IN
CHANNELSIDE -- I AM TRYING TO VISUALIZE WHAT YOU GOT GOING
ON.
05:58:46PM >> WE OPPONENT TO CONSIDER OURSELVES A SPORTS BAR.
WE CONSIDER OURSELVES A RESTAURANT, GATHERING PLACE THAT
SERVING BEER AND HAVE SPORTS ON TV.
05:58:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
05:58:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LET'S -- LET ME GO TO MR. SHELBY.
05:59:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, IF THAT -- IF THAT IS A CONCERN, AND I
DON'T RECALL SPECIFICALLY MISS BARNES PRESENTATION, BUT YOU
LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREAS IN TERMS OF WHAT IS AROUND
THEM IN ORDER TO MAKE A RECORD.
JUST IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS.
05:59:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MAY I ASK --
05:59:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LET ME GO TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:59:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TYPICALLY IN THESE SITUATIONS, MR. CHAIR,
YOU ARE THE ONES TO MAKE THE MOTION TO LIMIT THE OUTDOOR
AMPLIFIED SOUND TO 10 AND 11:00.
YOU DIDN'T DO THAT.
DID YOU GET LEGAL COUNSEL NOT TO DO THAT.
ARE WE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT?
05:59:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AM WAITING IF YOU BEEN AT MY OPINION IF WE
GO TO THE MOTION AND DISCUSSION.
THEN I WILL GIVE MY OPINION.
05:59:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DIDN'T PROPOSE IT BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU
WERE.
TYPICALLY IN THESE CASES.
CHANNEL DISTRICT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE KNOW THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T LIKE LATE NIGHT SOUND OUTSIDE.
06:00:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WILL BE GIVING MY OPINION THEN.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:00:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE GENTLEMAN SAID HE IS A RESTAURANT.
I WOULD IMAGINE THEN THE RESTAURANT IS OPEN AS LONG AS THE
BAR IS OPEN?
FOR DINNER OR TAKEOUT?
06:00:16PM >> YES.
06:00:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
PARDON ME?
06:00:19PM >> THE RESTAURANT -- FOOD WILL BE SERVED UNTIL THE
RESTAURANT IS CLOSED.
06:00:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DIDN'T SAY THAT -- NOT THE RESTAURANT
IS CLOSED.
YOU ARE TRYING TO PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH.
YOU ARE NOT TRYING BUT IT IS COMING OUT THAT WAY.
IF YOU ARE SELLING ALCOHOL PAST 1:00 IN THE MORNING, 1 UNTIL
3:00, THE BAR WILL CLOSE AT 1:00 OR 3:00?
06:00:42PM >> IF WE ARE SELLING ALCOHOL PAST 1, THE BAR WILL STILL BE
OPEN.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE BAR IS OPEN, THE FOOD SERVICE WILL
BE OPEN.
06:00:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I GOT THE ANSWER.
06:00:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:00:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN WE SEE THE SITE PLAN OF THIS.
WELL, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT -- I WANTED TO SEE THE SITE MAN
BECAUSE I REMEMBER SEEING THIS WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, BUT I
WAS HOPING TO SEE THE SITE PLAN AGAIN TODAY BECAUSE MY
QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH HOW MUCH OUTDOOR AREA THERE IS AND
IN WHAT DIRECTION IT FACES.
WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE.
DO WE HAVE LIKE A TERRACE OR PATIO.
06:01:24PM >> ELEVATIONS AS WELL.
THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE
APPLICANT.
THIS IS THE EAST AND WEST AND THIS IS THE NORTH AND SOUTH
AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY -- I DON'T THINK THE ELMO BACKS --
THAT ONE DOES NOT BACK OUT ENOUGH FOR ME TO SHOW YOU THE
SITE PLAN, BUT THERE SHOULD BE A COPY AND I HAVE A COPY AS
WELL.
06:01:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A COPY.
I GUESS MY QUESTION AS I AM LOOKING AT THIS, IS IT LOOKS
LIKE A COVERED BAR PATIO AND AN OPEN AND ALSO CALLED A
CARPORT.
COVERED OR NOT COVERED.
06:02:16PM >> THE TOTAL INDOOR AREA IS 11,830 SQUARE FEET AND OUTDOOR
AREA IS 4,000.
I DO BELIEVE THERE IS SOMEONE HERE FROM THE -- THE
RESTAURANT AS WELL AND OTHER REPRESENT FIVE.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE AN AUTHORIZED AGENT FORM BUT AS PUBLIC
COMMENT.
06:02:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ARE YOU OKAY?
06:02:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, IF COUNCILMAN CARLSON DOESN'T MAKE THE
MOTION, I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO LIMIT AUDITORY -- SORRY.
06:03:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
06:03:08PM >> RICHARD RENNINGER.
I LIVE IN TAMPA FLORIDA AND THE CHIEF DEVELOPMENT OFFICER OF
DARDEN RESTAURANTS WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE YARD HOUSE.
SO I COULD ADD -- I WAS NOT PLANNING TO SPEAK, BUT I -- YOU
KNOW, SINCE SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS, I CAN TELL THAT YOU WE
HAVE 80 RESTAURANTS.
THIS WILL BE SIMILAR TO THE 80 RESTAURANTS.
THE ONLY TIME WE ARE OPEN LATER THAN OUR TYPICAL HOURS IS
IF AMALIE OR SOMETHING ADJACENT HAS AN EVENT.
WE TONIGHT DRIVE EVENTS.
WE DON'T HAVE LIVE MUSIC.
WE ARE GENERALLY A RESTAURANT LIKE WE DESCRIBED, THAT
PARTICULAR PIECE THAT MAKES IT A BAR.
WE HAVE 100 ON AVERAGE TAPS, SO YOU CAN GET LOCAL BEERS.
LOTS OF THINGS LIKE THAT BUT OUR CHEF-DRIVEN FOOD IS MUCH
THE DRIVER OF THE BUSINESS.
WE HAVE SPORTING EVENTS BUT NOT SPORTS BAR.
THE CULINARY PIECE IS WHAT DRIVES OUR BUSINESS.
WE ARE ADJACENT TO MANY LARGE SPORTING EVENTS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY, LA LIVE WOULD BE ONE.
THE BRAVES STADIUM WILL BE ANOTHER.
AND WE WORK IN HARMONY WITH THOSE.
OUR LANDLORD THERE.
WE WORK IN GREAT HARMONY.
WE ARE NOT LOUDER OR LARGER OR OUTSIDE OF THOSE EVENTS.
WE DON'T DRIVE THAT.
WE ARE A PARTICIPANT, I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY -- MUCH THE
WAY THE CIGAR IS ACROSS THE ATRIUM AT THE AMILIE ARENA.
06:04:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:04:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
OUR DARDEN RESTAURANT CHAIN.
AND YARD HOUSE OWNED.
06:04:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
A GOOD CHAIN.
06:04:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:04:57PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE BEEN IN THE ONE IN ORLANDO.
I WON'T TESTIFY ANYTHING BUT I HAVE BEEN ON THE ONE IN
ORLANDO.
MY QUESTION IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN, IT IS BIG ON THE
INSIDE, BUT THE OUTSIDE SPACE IS SMALLER.
CAN YOU TELL US HOW OFTEN YOU ACTIVATE THE OUTSIDE SPACE AND
WHAT IT IS USED FOR.
06:05:13PM >> THE SMALLER OUTSIDE SPACE WILL BE A PATIO WHEN THE
WEATHER IS APPROPRIATE FOR THAT.
AND THE LARGER -- WHEN YOU HAVE LARGE EVENTS IS THE ONLY
TIME WE WOULD USE ALL OF THE OUTSIDE SPACE.
SO IT IS MEANT TO BE INDOOR-OUTDOOR -- NOT INDOOR-OUTDOOR,
BUT KIND OF LIKE A PARK AREA TUESDAY MORNING AT 10:00.
AND THEN WHEN THERE IS AN EVENT AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER
THE PLACE YOU USE THE LARGER AREA.
06:05:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
06:05:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
06:05:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DOESN'T ANSWER THE HOURS OF OPERATION
VERSUS THE MUSIC.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
THEY NEVER GAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER.
I CAN'T MAKE A MOTION.
THEY HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.
06:05:59PM >> I COULD SPEAK TO MUSIC IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.
INTERNALLY FOCUSED THE SPEAKERS.
THEY ARE NOT FOR OUTSIDE.
LOUD ENOUGH FOR OUR GUESTS.
WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DRIVE MUSIC OR DRIVE PEOPLE TO THE
PLACE WITH OUR SPEAKER SYSTEM.
IT IS APPROPRIATELY SIZED SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE EITHER A GAME
OR MUSIC WHILE YOU ARE IN OUR FACILITY.
06:06:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LET ME CLARIFY THAT THE AMPLIFIED MUSIC
DOES NOT GO OUTSIDE, JUST INSIDE?
06:06:31PM >> IT WOULD GO TO THE SIDEWALK OUTSIDE AND TWO BLOCKS AWAY,
YOU WOULDN'T HEAR.
06:06:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DEPENDS ON THE WIND AND WHAT KIND OF
WEATHER.
06:06:38PM >> IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE HEARD MORE THAN ON OUR PROPERTY.
IT'S -- THAT IS NOT THE GOAL.
THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT IS SET UP.
06:06:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ.
06:06:51PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
DEPARTMENT.
I KNOW WE ARE TALKING OF A SPECIFIC BRAND AND RESTAURANT,
COMPANY, BUT, AGAIN, THIS WET ZONES ZONING -- THIS AB PERMIT
WILL TRAVEL WITH THE PROPERTY.
WHATEVER LIMITATION YOU IMPOSE OR FAIL TO IMPOSE WILL TRAVEL
WITH THIS PROPERTY REGARDLESS OF WHO THE OPERATOR IS IN THE
FUTURE.
06:07:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
APPLICANT, I AM NOT FACING YOU, BUT YOU CAN
STILL HEAR ME, CAN'T YOU?
06:07:24PM >> YES, SIR IN IROFULVEN MIRANDA WHAT DID YOU SAY ANY DIDN'T
HEAR YOU.
[LAUGHTER]
06:07:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:07:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DO YOU -- TYPICALLY IN SITUATIONS WHERE
FACILITIES LIKE THIS ARE IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY WILL BE WILLING TO LIMIT THE
OUTDOOR -- JUST OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND TO 10 OR 11:00.
IS THAT -- IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU ALL OR BURDENSOME?
06:07:53PM >> IF OUR HOCKEY TEAM IS PLAYING ON THE WEST COAST PAST
11:00, THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD BE -- I THINK THERE IS A
DECIBEL LEVEL WE CAN AGREE TO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THAT
THE NOISE IS NOT THAT LOUD.
WE DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS OR COMMENTS ABOUT NOISE.
IT HAS NEVER BEEN OUR CHALLENGE.
06:08:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
06:08:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:08:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
06:08:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
YOU STILL HAVE YOUR MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
06:08:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVED.
06:08:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
06:08:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ROLL CALL VOTE.
EXCUSE ME, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.
I APOLOGIZE.
NO, I DON'T.
I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.
THE MAJOR HALL ACROSS THE STREET.
NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN CLOSES AT 12:00 AND USUALLY -- I AM
NOT GIVING EVIDENCE, BUT I SUPPOSE THEY WANE OFF THEIR
ALCOHOL, LIQUOR AND BEER SALES AT A CERTAIN TIME WHEN I WAS
THERE.
I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.
WE ARE HAVING ENOUGH PROBLEMS DOWN IN CHANNELSIDE WITH
AMPLIFIED MUSIC.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ADD TO THIS.
AND I PERMANENTLY DON'T THINK THEY ARE ANOTHER PACKAGE STORE
THAT NEEDS TO BE DOWN THERE.
THAT IS JUST MY OPINION ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
06:09:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ.
CAN WE -- SORRY I AM CONFUSED IF WE CHANGED SOMETHING, BUT
ARE WE ALLOWED TO ADD THAT -- THE LIMITATION ON OUTDOOR
AMPLIFIED SOUND.
DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE TO REQUEST IT, OR CAN I PUT IT ON
HERE OR STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN ON HERE.
06:09:51PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
RIGHT NOW THERE IS -- THE NOISE
ORDINANCE.
WE HAVE GOT -- KIND OF IN LIMBO.
SO TYPICALLY YOU ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY ARE WILLING TO
AGREE TO IT.
06:10:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA DID THAT.
06:10:02PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
REMIND COUNCIL SEEKING THREE WAIVERS.
THE DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM 1,000 FEET DOWN TO 65 FEET FROM
THIS ESTABLISHMENT TO RESIDENTIAL USES.
SO CERTAINLY COUNCIL IS ENTITLEDED TO CONSIDER WHETHER THAT
IS COMPATIBLE OR IF THE WAIVER HAS BEEN JUSTIFIED.
06:10:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED, IS THAT
CORRECT?
06:10:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, IT HAS.
06:10:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF THAT IS A SUBJECT THAT THE COUNCIL
WISHES TO EXPLORE YOU NEED TO REOPEN THE HEARING.
06:10:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A REQUEST TO REOPEN THE HEARING.
I DIDN'T MAKE THE MOTION.
I SAID A REQUEST TO REOPEN THE HEARING.
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR --
06:10:47PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
DEPARTMENT.
MY ANSWER WAS TYPICALLY -- BECAUSE THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS
STILL IN FLUX, NO LIMITATIONS ON OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND IN
THE CODE AND TYPICALLY YOU WOULD ASK A APPLICANT TO AGREE TO
LIMIT OUTSIDE AMPLIFIED SOUND.
I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL REQUESTING THREE WAIVERS ONE OF
WHICH IS TO REDUCE THE DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM RESIDENTIAL
USES WHICH IS REQUESTING TO GO FROM 1,000 FEET DOWN TO 65
FEET.
I AM SORRY, COUNCIL, IF I COULD JUST -- THIS IS ALSO -- THIS
AREA ALTHOUGH IT IS KIND OF NEAR THE EDGE OF THE TWO
DISTRICTS, THIS IS WITHIN THE ARENA DISTRICT WHERE SOUND IS
MEASURED ON A DECIBEL STANDARD.
SO THAT MAXIMUM DECIBEL LEVEL IS 87 DECIBELS.
06:11:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. SHELBY.
06:11:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WILL DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE STAFF
REPORTS.
PARTICULARLY THE STAFF REPORT OF THIS CASE.
AND DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION AND YOU 27-129 WITH REGARD TO
THIS, AS WELL AS MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ STATED THE REQUIREMENT
OF MEETING THE NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS FOR GRANTING OF A
WAIVER.
SO I WOULD DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT IN YOUR
DETERMINATION AND TO APPLY THE CODE ON YOUR DECISIONS BASED
ON THAT AND NOT ON ANY NECESSARILY OUTSIDE EVIDENCE AND
EVIDENCE THAT YOU MAY HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE YOURSELF AND
IF YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS SURROUNDING --
REGARDING THE SURROUNDING AREA.
YOU HAVE THE HEARING OPEN NOW AND THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY
TO ASK MISS BARNES AND ANY QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT,
YOU CAN ASK MISS BARNES.
CITRO.
06:12:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:12:32PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU SAID THIS LAND IS IN THE ARENA
DISTRICT?
06:12:37PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
THAT'S CORRECT.
06:12:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NOT IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
06:12:43PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
THE ARENA DISTRICT.
06:12:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALLOWS FOR DIFFERENT SOUNDS IN THE ARENA
DISTRICT.
06:12:51PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
ALLOWS ON A DECIBEL RATHER THAN
PLAINLY AUDIBLE.
06:12:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NOT A NIGHT CLUB, A RESTAURANT.
06:12:59PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
MY UNDERSTANDING IT IS A RESTAURANT.
06:13:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, WE ASKED THE QUESTION INDIRECTLY.
BUT ASK THE APPLICANT WHO IS ON SCREEN.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO ACCEPT ENDING AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR
SOUND AT 11:00?
06:13:25PM >> IF THAT IS THE COUNCIL'S REQUEST, WE CAN DEFINITELY ABIDE
BY THAT.
06:13:33PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
THAT WOULD BE A CONDITION ADDED.
06:13:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ, DISTANCE SEPARATION
BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
06:13:51PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
RESIDENTIAL BETWEEN INSTITUTIONAL
USES AND FROM OTHER AB ESTABLISHMENTS.
06:13:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
EVEN THOUGH THIS IS THE ARENA DISTRICT,
THERE ARE STILL RESIDENTS LIVING WITHIN THAT AREA, DISTANCE
SEPARATION.
06:14:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION
ANSWERED BY STAFF EITHER BY PICTURES.
06:14:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NOT ONLY AB SALES BUT RESIDENTIAL.
06:14:17PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
CORRECT, AB AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
06:14:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
POINT I AM TOO IG TO GET TO IS RESIDENTIAL.
06:14:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I AM SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:14:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
JUST BECAUSE IT IS THE ARENA DISTRICT HE
DOESN'T MEAN IT IS JUST A WILD WEST SHOW.
THERE ARE RESIDENTS?
06:14:35PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
CORRECT.
06:14:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU CAN.
SHE DIDN'T SPECIFY SPECIFICALLY THE DIFFERENCES OF THE
DISTANCE OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF DISTANCE SEPARATION.
06:14:46PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THE REQUEST IS TO REDUCE THE DISTANCE FROM OTHER INAB SALES
ESTABLISHMENTS FROM 1,000 FEET TO 65 FEET.
RESIDENTIAL USES 1,000 TO 65 FEET.
AS WELL AS INSTITUTIONAL USES 1,000 TO 378.
HOWEVER, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE INSTITUTION --
SORRY, THE RESIDENTIAL USE AND OTHER AB SALES
ESTABLISHMENTS.
THE AB SALES ESTABLISHMENT IS IN THE SAME BUILDING AS THE
RESIDENTIAL USE IT MY UNDERSTANDING.
SO IT MIGHT BE A CONVENIENCE STORE OR WHAT NOT THAT HAD AB
SALES.
06:15:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
JUST RESIDENTIAL.
06:15:25PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
YES.
06:15:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
06:15:29PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:15:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. CARLSON, DID YOU GET YOUR QUESTION
ANSWERED ABOUT AMPLIFIED SOUND?
06:15:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LIKE YOU SAID, NO CLEAR YES.
SO I --
06:15:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SO UNLESS YOU WANT TO PURSUE IT A LITTLE BIT
MORE, WE WILL GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:15:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WILL BE MY QUESTION.
DO -- DO WE HAVE THEM SAYING THAT OUTSIDE NO AM POLICE TIDE
SOUND AFTER 11:00.
IF NOT, IT WILL BE HARD FOR ME TO SUPPORT THIS.
06:16:05PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THAT IS CURRENTLY NOT ON THE SITE PLAN AND WILL NEED TO BE
ADDED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
06:16:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:16:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BRETT, WILL YOU ACCEPT PUTTING ON THE
SITE PLAN THAT YOU WILL END THE AMPLIFIED MUSIC AT 11 P.M.?
OR ANY AMPLIFIED SOUND, OUTDOOR?
06:16:32PM >> YES.
06:16:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THERE YOU GO.
THANK YOU.
06:16:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:16:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I AM A LITTLE SYMPATHETIC RIGHT NOW.
I GUESS I AM A LITTLE SYMPATHETIC RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE
RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE HOCKEY ARENA.
I LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER BUSINESSES AROUND THERE AND I WOULD
HATE THAT HE IS RIGHT -- IF ON THE WEST COAST A GAME
PLAYING, THAT WILL BE A LITTLE LATER THAN 10 OR 11:00.
THAT WOULD BE UNFAIR FOR THAT BUSINESS THERE.
AND I DON'T THINK WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS GOING TO BE A LOT,
LOT -- A PROBLEM THAT WE WILL BE HAVING AND I WOULD HATE FOR
THEIR BUSINESS TO BE HURT GIVING RESTRICTIONS AND RIGHT
ACROSS FROM THE ARENA.
THAT IS A PROBLEM.
06:17:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:17:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I NOTICED IN THE IMAGES OF THE -- WHERE
THIS PROPERTY WILL GO, NO ONE MENTION THAT THERE IS THE
ADDITION HOTEL WITH A ROOFTOP SWIMMING POOL THAT HAS A
DEEJAY THAT PLAYS MUSIC AND ALL OUTDOORS.
NOBODY MENTIONED THAT.
I AM JUST SAYING IT IS THERE.
I THINK THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION IS OVERLY COMPLICATED.
06:17:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGAIN, I AM -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND -- I
WILL TELL YOU MY REAL REASON.
06:17:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU KNOW, I WISH WE COULD -- I WISH WE COULD
DIVIDE BETWEEN MUSIC AND A GAME ON.
AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN.
AND SO I -- I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU.
THIS IS LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE STADIUM WHICH
IS WHY I WANTED TO SEE THE SITE PLAN, BECAUSE I WANTED TO
SEE THAT THE NOISE IF AMPLIFIED IS FACING OUT.
I KNOW -- -- YEAH, IT IS GRAY, BUT -- I AM NOT -- I AM --
WELL, YES.
I -- I WILL SUPPORT THIS WITHOUT THE TIME LIMITATIONS JUST
BECAUSE I FEEL THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES MADE GOOD POINTS.
06:18:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WELL, I CANNOT SUPPORT IT.
PACKAGE SALES.
I WILL BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU ABOUT THAT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
06:18:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
06:18:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.
06:18:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOUR MOTION STANDS.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, DOES THAT STILL STAND.
06:19:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
06:19:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
06:19:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
06:19:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
06:19:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
06:19:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
06:19:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
06:19:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SHE WILL GET IT RIGHT.
06:19:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NO.
06:19:24PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA, CARLSON, CITRO VOTING
NO.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 17,
2022 AT 9:30 A.M.
06:19:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, AB2-22-24.
06:19:56PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AB 2-22-24.
REQUEST FOR 1602 WEST SNOW AVENUE.
FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON PREMISE AND OFF-PREMISE
PACKAGE CONSUMPTION.
TOTAL AB SALES AREA IS 3324 SQUARE FEET.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A CORRECTION ON -- FOR THE RECORD.
BASED UPON THE STAFF REPORT, THE STAFF REPORT INDICATES 2287
SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR AREA.
I TRANSPOSED TWO NUMBERS AND SHOULD BE 2827 SQUARE FEET.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM
OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS FOR 250 FEET TO ZERO FEET.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE HYDE PARK URBAN VILLAGE.
AND THE SUITE IS ABOUT RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CURRENTLY RIGHT HERE ON THE
CORNER.
DIRECTLY WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
AND NORTHEAST.
AND SOUTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT BASED ON THE DISTANCE
SEPARATION REQUESTED.
AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:21:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:21:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I THOUGHT THIS WAS -- THAT WE HEARD THIS
YEARS AGO.
06:21:40PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
CORRECT.
06:21:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AN EXPANSION OF THE ORIGINAL SQUARE
FOOTAGE?
06:21:45PM >>ANNIE BARNES:
CORRECT.
ON THE STAFF REPORT, IT WAS PREVIOUS ME -- AB-21-08.
AND THEY ARE ADDING ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE.
06:21:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
06:21:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PETITIONER.
06:22:04PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
COLIN RICE FOR THE APPLICANT, BOUZY LCC WITH LIZ KELLER WITH
OUR LAW FIRM, 101 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD, SUITE 2800, TAMPA,
FLORIDA, 33602.
YOU ARE CORRECT.
THIS SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR.
WE WERE BACK BEFORE YOU FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE -- THIS IS REALLY JUST A CORRECTION TO A
NEW AND INCREASED INTERIOR SPACE.
SO I WILL DETAIL THE CHANGES AND WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.
BUT THIS IS A RESTAURANT.
THE APPROVED USE EXISTING BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON PREMISE.
PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.
NONE OF THAT IS CHANGING.
ALL OF THIS IS REMAINING THE SAME.
NEXT.
JUST TO ORIENT YOU AGAIN, WE ARE IN HYDE PARK VILLAGE KIND
OF ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CORNER OF SOUTH ROME AND WEST
SNOW.
NEXT.
AND TO DETAIL THE CHANGES, THIS IS THE APPROVED SITE PLAN IN
EXISTENCE.
THIS ESTABLISHMENT IS GOING IN AND APPROVED.
BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT FOR YOU THE AREA IN QUESTION HERE.
WE HAVE GOT THE EXISTING APPROVED SPACE HERE.
AND THE NEXT SLIDE, WE WILL SHOW YOU HIGHLIGHT IN YELLOW
WHERE WE HAVE EXPANDED.
AND SO THE NEXT SLIDE WE ARE GOING TO ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT
AND SHOW YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED LIFE SAFETY PLAN WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT.
THIS IS THIS SPACE HERE.
NEXT SLIDE.
AND SO OUR PROPOSED LIFE SAFETY PLAN, WHAT HAD HAPPENED
HERE, THERE WAS A CEILING HEIGHT ISSUE WITH THE BEAM.
IT WAS TOO SHORT.
SO WHAT HAD HAPPENED ALONG -- WHERE LIZ IS POINTING, THAT IS
UNION USABLE SPACE AND TOO SHORT.
SO COME IN FROM THE TOP LEFT.
AND IN RECONFIGURING THE SPACE, THERE WAS OPPORTUNITY TO GO
TOWARD THE GARAGE PREDOMINANTLY FOR AUGMENTED KITCHEN SPACE.
THE MAJORITY OF THE EXPANSION NOT FOR OCCUPANT USE BUT A
MORE ROBUST KITCHEN AND TAKE AWAY FROM THE BAR TOP AREA THAT
PREVIOUSLY WAS APPROVED.
NEXT SLIDE.
THE SAME BUSINESS PLAN.
SAME DESIGN AESTHETIC.
SAME TENANT.
WE WANT TO CALL OUT AND EXPLAIN WHY THE INCREASE IS THERE,
THE OPERATIONAL ADVANTAGES INHERENT WITH THIS.
MISS BARNES DID POINT OUT THE SEPARATION WAIVER.
THE SAME WAIVER THAT WAS APPROVED PREVIOUSLY.
THE SAME BUILDING OF MEAT MARKET AND NOTHING ON THE GROUND
THAT CHANGED.
SUFFICIENTLY PARKED.
SURPLUS OF PARKING WITHIN THE OVERALL SITE.
WITH THAT, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
06:24:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:24:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ANY OUTDOOR
AMPLIFIED SOUND OR MUSIC?
06:24:56PM >> NO.
AN OUTDOOR SPACE AND JUST DINING TABLES AND NOT INTENDED FOR
THAT.
06:25:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AWESOME, THANKS.
06:25:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?
DID YOU HAVE PACKAGE SALES BEFORE?
06:25:10PM >> YES, SIR.
06:25:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU DID?
06:25:12PM >> WE DID.
06:25:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
OKAY, THANK YOU.
06:25:15PM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
06:25:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
TO THIS?
SEEING NONE.
06:25:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:25:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
06:25:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:25:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, ITEM NUMBER 8,
FILE NUMBER AB2-22-24, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION.
ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND
PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION AND MAKING LAWFUL THE
SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR AT
OREGON FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OF LAND LOCATED 600 SNOW
AVENUE AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXCEPTION 3
PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCES ARE REPEALED.
PROVIDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021-43, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
06:26:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
06:26:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:26:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
06:26:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
06:26:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
06:26:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
06:26:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
[APPLAUSE]
06:26:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
06:26:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
06:26:37PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD NOVEMBER 17, 25022
AT 9:30 A.M.
06:26:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
BEFORE WE GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS, MR.
SHELBY, HANDED US THIS PAPER.
I AM SURE IT IS FOR --
06:26:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TUESDAY.
06:27:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A DISCUSSION YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING
CONCERNING.
06:27:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, MAY I.
I WANT TO MAKE THIS VERY BRIEF BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO TAKE
UP THE TUESDAY SPECIAL CALL WITH THIS HOUSEKEEPING.
PASSED OUT PROVIDED BY THE FACILITATOR REVISED AS OF
ACTUALLY TODAY THE AGREED UPON PROCESS THAT I WANTED TO
SHARE WITH YOU, CITY COUNCIL, SO YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN
ADVANCE.
SHE IS AWARE OF THE PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY COUNCIL
AS PROPOSED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THANK YOU.
AND THAT IS THE FORMAT THAT THIS WILL TAKE PLACE.
I AM GOING TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION FOR CLARIFICATION.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CALENDAR FOR NOVEMBER 1, YOU WILL SEE
THERE ARE THREE PREVIOUS MOTIONS THAT WERE MADE FOR THAT
DATE.
AND THAT WAS BEFORE WE HAD THE FACILITATOR SIGNED ON.
AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO CAUSE ANY CONFUSION ON TUESDAY, SO
WE CAN JUST ROLL THAT IN ALL TOGETHER OR SOME OF THEM CAN BE
STRUCK, FOR INSTANCE, COUNCIL, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT
TO MAKE IT A CHARTER QUESTION WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A CITY
COUNCIL ATTORNEY IS NOT AVAILABLE.
WE CAN CHANGE THAT TO ANOTHER DATE AND NOT HAVE THAT ON THE
DISCUSSION ON TUESDAY.
AND UNLESS YOU THINK THAT IS RELATIVE TO THE CHARTER.
THE SAME FOR THE OTHER TWO ITEMS THERE.
SO WE CAN HAVE THAT ALL APPEAR ON THE CHARTER -- ON THE
AGENDA, I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT EVERYTHING WILL BE
ROLLED INTO THE FACILITATED DISCUSSION UNLESS YOU FEEL
DIFFERENTLY.
AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE OFF.
ONE OF THEM I WOULD RECOMMEND IS DISCUSSION OF GOING OUT ON
A TANGENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY AND AT THE END OF THE
MEETING AND SAVE TIME ON THAT.
BUT YOUR CALL.
06:28:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:28:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS TO
US NOW SO WE KNOW IN ADVANCE A PLAN TO FOLLOW.
I THINK THIS IS VERY WELL ORGANIZED.
AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE ARE THREE ITEMS THERE ON THE
CALENDAR.
AND SHOULD WE -- I THINK WE WILL GET TO IT ON TUESDAY.
IF WE FEEL IT NOT NECESSARY TO DISCUSS A CERTAIN TOPIC AS
YOU MENTIONED, WE CAN PUT IT TOWARD A STAFF REPORT SO WE
DON'T SPEND -- WE FOCUS ON THE ISSUE OF THE CHARTER AND THAT
IS WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR, WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM THE COUNCIL
ATTORNEY DISCUSSION.
SURE WE HAVE THIS.
AND THESE GUIDELINES AND TIME ALLOTMENT THAT WE CAN GO ON OR
OFF THAT WITH THE FACILITATOR.
I THINK IT IS VERY GOOD.
A STRUCTURE FOR TUESDAY AND NOT WALKING INTO THIS BLINDLY
WHERE WE DON'T KNOW THE PROTOCOLS.
I THINK THIS IS VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
06:29:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS AND THE WAY IT WAS
NOTICED THAT THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS TAKEN UP FRONT.
OF COURSE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK QUESTIONS OF ANYBODY
PRESENT AT THE WORKSHOP AS YOUR RULES WILL ALLOW AND YOU CAN
CERTAINLY AMEND YOUR RULES AS YOU ARE FINDING THEM IF THIS
HE NEED TO BE, BUT I WANTED TO BE CLEAR TO GET THAT OUT OF
THE WAY TONIGHT.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR ALLOWING ME TO DO THAT TONIGHT
SO WE DON'T TAKE UP TIME CONTINUE TO TUESDAY.
06:30:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:30:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT MOTION WAS MINE IF THE CITY ATTORNEY OR
OTHERS IN THE CITY SHOULD BE AVAILABLE -- OH, NO, I AM
SORRY.
06:30:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THEY ALL ROLLED IN AT ONE POINT IN TIME
WITH THE CONTINUANCES.
06:30:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE REASONING I HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENS WHEN OUR COUNCIL ATTORNEY IS ABSENT BECAUSE THAT
GOES TO STAFFING.
AND RIGHT -- THAT IS IN THE CHARTER THAT WE CAN HAVE AN
ATTORNEY AND I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS MORE THAN ONE AND
TALKED ABOUT GETTING AN ASSISTANT.
TO ME THAT IS A CHARTER ISSUE, BUT THE DISCUSSION -- THE
DISCUSSION OF STAFF FOR CITY COUNCIL AND THAT WAS THE REASON
THAT I ADD IT TO THIS PARTICULAR, THAT I WANT IT FOR THIS
PARTICULAR MEETING.
06:30:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT COMPLETELY.
06:30:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
THANK YOU.
06:30:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THREE THINGS REAL FAST.
MARTY, I THINK WE OUGHT TO ADD THE GUIDELINES THAT WE --
THAT WE APPROVED A FEW -- A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHICH
SHOULD SAY EACH COUNCILMEMBER WILL PRESENT THEIR IDEAS AND
THEN THERE WILL BE AN UP AND DOWN -- SHORT DISCUSSION, UP
AND DOWN VOTE, AND KEEP MOVING THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE
HOUR-LONG CONVERSATIONS.
BUT SECOND CONVERSATIONS.
SECONDLY, THREE SPECIFIC THINGS LISTED HERE BUT KEEP IN MIND
THE BEGINNING OF NUMBER TWO IS THE BROAD DISCUSSION OF
CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
SO THEN MENTIONS A SPECIFIC ONE AFTERWARDS, BUT IT IS NOT --
THE PROPOSAL -- EVERYBODY WILL BRING THEIR OWN IDEAS.
AND I IMAGINE MOST OF THE IDEAS WILL GET SHOT DOWN.
THE ONLY THING I WILL SAY IS THAT THERE IS A LOT OF LOBBYING
GOING ON AND MISINFORMATION OUT THERE.
I WOULD JUST ASK MY COLLEAGUES, THE.PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION.
NOBODY WILL APPROVE SOMETHING THAT WILL HURT THE CITY.
LET'S ALL BE OPEN TO EACH OTHER'S IDEAS AND HEAR WHAT THEY
ARE.
IF THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE NEED TO CLEAN UP.
NOT INFRINGING ON EVERYBODY'S TURF AND THREATENING ANYBODY
OR POWER PLAY THAT IF THESE GET APPROVED THAT IT HURTS
SOMEBODY AND SOMEBODY WON.
LET'S HAVE THE MIND SET TO HELP THE PUBLIC AND MAKE SURE
THIS GOVERNMENT RUNS AS WELL.
IF WE THINK WE CAN HELP IT RUN EVEN BETTER WE SHOULD APPROVE
SOME OF THESE THINGS.
EVEN IF WE DO APPROVE THEM, WE HAVE ONE OR TWO MORE CHANCES
TO CHANGE THEM.
THANK YOU.
06:32:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:32:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MR. CARLSON.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR THAT RENDITION.
YOU ARE RIGHT.
A FEW OF US SAT ON THE CHARTER REVIEW.
AND, BOY, WE -- WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE KNOW NOW, GOING TO BE
HONEST WITH YOU.
WITH ANYTHING, AS TIME GOES ON.
THINGS CHANGE AND YOU FIND OUT THINGS THAT NEED TO BE
CHANGED.
LET'S NOT BE SO NERVOUS BECAUSE OF THE TIME OR OFFEND
SOMEBODY OR HURT A CERTAIN BODY.
BUT AGAIN LOOK WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY.
THINGS DO CHANGE AND MR. SHELBY.
I KNOW YOU HAVE A FEW OF MY QUESTIONS.
06:33:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
EVERYBODY.
06:33:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BUT I KNOW YOU HAVE A FEW OF MINE.
I THINK THERE ARE ABOUT TWO OR THREE.
BUT, AGAIN, I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE IN A RESPECTFUL PLACE AND
LISTEN TO EVERYBODY AND HAVE AN OPEN MIND TO WHAT SOME
PEOPLE MAY BE PROPOSING.
06:33:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:33:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ONE THING I WILL ASK COUNCILMEMBERS TO DO,
THIS MAY BE FOR A MALL MY SNORT OF THEM, BUT THE CHARTER
IDEAS IF THEY CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED BY ORDINANCE I HAVE ONE
THAT I SUBMITTED FORWARD THAT I THOUGHT WAS UNIQUELY FOR THE
CHARTER.
AND APPARENTLY I WAS WRONG.
SO JUST DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT BECAUSE MAKE WE CAN ACCOMPLISH
SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE CHARTER MAKING IT A LOT EASIER IF
THE BODY WANTS TO PROCEED.
MY THOUGHT.
06:34:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ONE FINAL THING FOR MR. CARLSON.
YOUR PROPOSAL WAS PROPOSED EARLIER -- SEVERAL WEEKS AGO AND
YOU SAID IT WAS ORIGINALLY TO COME BACK ON NOVEMBER 3.
I SENT OUT A MEMO RECENTLY TALKING OF THE TIME LINE IT WOULD
TAKE TO BE ADOPTED.
A SHORT TURN-AROUND TIME BUT PROBABLY THE BEST TIME FOR
FIRST READING AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS ON TUESDAY ON THAT
AGENDA WILL BE DECEMBER 1 FOR FIRST READING IF ANYTHING THAT
COUNCIL CHOOSES TO GO FORWARD WITH.
06:34:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DO WE NEED TO SCHEDULE THAT?
06:34:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT IS TUESDAY IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO IT.
06:34:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
INFORMATION REPORT.
06:34:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NONE.
06:34:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:34:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GIVING POSTHUMOUSLY TO SENIOR PASTOR
ROBERT FUSTER FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND COMMITMENT TO THIS
COMMUNITY AND IMPACT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
HE WAS TRAGICALLY KILLED IN A CAR ACCIDENT, MY
UNDERSTANDING.
HE GAVE IN THE NORTH TAMPA AREA, HE USED TO GIVE OUT ALL THE
TURKEYS AND FOOD AT THE BIG AT UNIVERSITY SQUARE MALL.
06:35:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
06:35:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
IS THAT ALL, COUNCILMAN GUDES?
06:35:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT'S ALL.
06:35:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NONE.
06:35:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I WAS AT THE SONS OF ITALY HALL THE OTHER DAY AND THEY ASKED
ME IF I KNEW ANYBODY IN THE CITY THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE
THEM A COMMENDATION.
AND I SAID I KNOW A GUY.
AND THE COMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR COLUMBUS DAY TO BE
PRESENTED TO THE SONS OF ITALY.
THEY HAVE THEIR CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS SECTION INSIDE.
AND TO PRESENT THEM A COMMENDATION FOR THAT.
ALSO, I BELIEVE THE LODGE HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 1962 AND THEY
ARE CELEBRATING 60 YEARS THIS AND THE 100 ANNIVERSARY COMING
UP.
IT IS A COMMENDATION I WILL PROVIDE ON-SITE THEM AT A FUTURE
DATE.
06:36:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
06:36:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
06:36:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A COUPLE OF MOTIONS HERE.
NUMBER ONE A REQUEST FROM THE WELCOME TO REMOVE 22-12 FROM
THE ADOPTION PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED ON JANUARY 26, 2023 AT
5:01 P.M.
06:36:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
06:36:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE AND ALL IN FAVOR.
06:36:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THEN A MOTION THAT STEVEN BENSON PROVIDE
A STAFF REPORT AT THE REGULAR SESSION MEETING DECEMBER 1 ON
THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY CODE CHANGES BY THE WEST
TAMPA CRA-CAC.
06:36:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
06:37:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
06:37:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AM I WRONG.
A BIRTHDAY COMING UP HERE NEXT WEEK?
ARE YOU SURE, NO?
CHARLIE, BIRTHDAY?
06:37:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO BIRTHDAYS?
06:37:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM GOING TO BE 28.
06:37:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HAPPY 28th BIRTHDAY TO COUNCILMEMBER
MIRANDA.
[APPLAUSE]
AND THAT'S IT, THANK YOU.
06:37:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:37:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, REALLY FAST.
I MOTIONED IT JANUARY 10.
CITY OF TAMPA TO ANDREW CARTER AND DARLA PORTMAN SEPARATELY
FOR PBA.
THEY ARE BOTH LEAVING THEIR POSITIONS.
06:37:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA --
06:37:53PM >>LUIS VIERA:
JANUARY 10.
06:37:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
06:37:57PM >>LUIS VIERA:
REALLY FAST.
I MOTION FOR A REPORT OF BETTER UTILIZING EXISTING
CONTRACTING AND POTENTIAL SERVICES FOR SMALLER CONSTRUCTION
PROJECTS THAT HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING BIDS FOR
DECEMBER 15 OF THIS YEAR.
STAFF REPORT, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
A LOT OF TIMES WE GET THESE SMALL BIDS, LIKE I HAVE THIS --
THIS PROJECT OUT ON -- WHAT IS IT OUT ON NINTH STREET FOR A
SIDEWALK THAT IS 60,000, 70,000.
WE CAN'T GET A BID.
IT APPEARS FROM THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE.
TO SEE WHAT AVAILABLE SERVICES AND I KNOW I MENTIONED THIS
BEFORE AND COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED SOMETHING TO THAT
EFFECT.
A REPORT IF I MAY.
06:38:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
06:38:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THEN ON MONDAY, I WILL BE COMMENTING ON A
COMMENDATION TO THE TAMPA BAY YOUNG MARINES FOR RED RIBBON
WEEK, IF I MAY.
06:38:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER VERANDA BARB
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
06:38:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LASTLY IF I MAY -- AND I BRIEFLY MENTIONED
THIS -- WHICH IS WITH THE CHARTER REVIEW.
I WAS TALKING -- I HAD TALKED ABOUT HAVING A DISCUSSION ON A
CITY COUNCIL CHARTER AMENDMENT PATTERNED AFTER THE 27th
AMENDMENT WHICH ESSENTIALLY SAYS CONGRESS IS -- IS REQUIRED
THAT IF IT PASSES, A PAY INCREASE FOR ITSELF IT DOESN'T TAKE
EFFECT UNTIL AFTER AN ELECTION.
I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT WITH REGARDS TO THE CHARTER, BUT
IT APPEARS WE CAN DO THAT BY ORDINANCE.
I AM NOT ASKING FOR AN ORDINANCE BLAH-BLAH-BLAH.
BUT JUST TO TALK ABOUT THAT IF I MAY ON DECEMBER 15, 2022 TO
HAVE LEGAL HERE.
06:39:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:39:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL EXPLAIN IT, IF I MAY, SIR.
LONG STORY SHORT, I WAS LOOKING TO AMEND THE CHARTER TO SAY
IF CITY OF TAMPA COUNCIL EVER VOTES FOR ITSELF TO HAVE A PAY
INCREASE OUTSIDE OF INFLATION, NOT COLAS OR ALL THAT STUFF
WILL TAKE PLACE AFTER AN ELECTION IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT.
I WAS LOOKING AT DOING THAT UNDER THE CHARTER THAT WE CAN
ACTUALLY DO THAT BY SIMPLE ORDINANCE.
SO I AM ASKING FOR A REPORT TO COME BACK IN DISCUSSION FOR
THAT.
NOT FOR AN ORDINANCE BY VOTING FOR THIS.
YOU ARE NOT SUPPORTING THIS.
06:40:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
JUST A DISCUSSION.
06:40:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN -- MARTIN SHELBY -- FROM THE CITY
ATTORNEY?
06:40:20PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BECAUSE I INQUIRED ON THAT.
06:40:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A VERY INTERESTING THING AND I WILL TALK TO
THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THAT.
AND -- BECAUSE IT IS VERY INTERESTING THAT SOME THINGS CAN
BE DONE BY ORDINANCE AND MAY BE A SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION.
06:40:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, THAT IS WHY I SAID THAT TO INQUIRE
ANY IDEAS THAT YOU HAVE.
I ASSUME -- I MADE AN ASSUMPTION THAT WOULD NEED A CHARTER
AMENDMENT, BUT APPARENTLY NOT.
SO THAT'S IT.
06:40:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAVE BEEN
WANTING TO DO THINGS BY ORDINANCE AND TOLD YOU COULDN'T DO
IT UNLESS YOU HAD A CHARTER AMENDMENT.
06:40:52PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAYBE I AM TIRED, WHO KNOWS.
06:40:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:41:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, SIR, JUST ONE.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I DON'T
THINK WE HAVE GIVEN A COMMENDATION FOR LA GACETA FOR THEIR
100th ANNIVERSARY.
TOMORROW NIGHT IS THE FILM BY LYNN DINGFELDER.
MY OTHER JOB I AM -- I PROBABLY CAN'T GIVE IT TO YOU GUYS.
YOU GUYS SHOULD GO IF YOU CAN.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS -- I WOULD LIKE TO DELIVER A
COMMENDATION TO THEM TOMORROW NIGHT FOR THEIR 100th
ANNIVERSARY.
IF ANY OF YOU ARE THERE, PLEASE JOIN ME.
06:41:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN YOU DO IT AT 8:00?
I AM GOING TO THE EQUALITY FLORIDA EVENT AND THEN HOP OVER.
IF YOU WANT TO DO IT TOGETHER.
06:41:47PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK THE MOVIE STARTS --
06:41:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE MOVIE STARTS AT 7:00.
06:41:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THOUGHT IT STARTED AT 8:00.
06:41:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THOUGHT IT STARTED AT 7.
06:42:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
8:00.
WHATEVER, I WILL BE THERE AS QUICK AS I CAN.
06:42:04PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF YOU WERE THERE BEFORE THE MOVIE STARTS.
06:42:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I THOUGHT THERE WAS A COCKTAIL HOUR.
I DON'T KNOW.
I WILL DOUBLE CHECK.
06:42:12PM >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
06:42:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I HAVE A MOUTHFUL.
WISH TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO MR. -- EXCUSE ME, BROTHER
ROBERT LAMBERT, WHO IS THE MOST WORSHIPABLE GRAND MASTER OF
THE MOST WORSHIPABLE GRAND LODGE OF FLORIDA OF FREE AND
ACCEPTED MASONS OFFSITE NOVEMBER 12.
06:42:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS HE A DEACON AS WELL BY ANY CHANCE?
A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.
CHAIRMAN CITRO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
06:43:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT'S IT.
06:43:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
06:43:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
THANK YOU, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.


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