TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 15, 2022
5:01 P.M.
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05:05:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:05:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:05:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:05:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
05:05:23PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:05:25PM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE WILL BE TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS
05:05:28PM FIRST.
05:05:28PM PRELIMINARY STUFF AND THEN PROCEED WITH THE HEARINGS.
05:05:31PM MR. SHELBY.
05:05:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME DO THIS FIRST, IF I CAN.
05:05:36PM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
05:05:39PM VERY BRIEFLY.
05:05:40PM THIS MEETING IS ABLE TO BE VIEWED AND LISTENED TO ON
05:05:44PM SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640, ON FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 AND
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05:05:59PM BY THE USE OF COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, CMT.
05:06:02PM PREREGISTRATION IF YOU PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY --
05:06:06PM PREREGISTRATION IS NECESSARY, AND FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT
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05:06:17PM AND A REMINDER, IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE VIA CMT, YOU MUST
05:06:25PM HAVE ACCESS OF A COMMUNICATION MEDIA DEVICE WITH VIDEO AND
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05:06:33PM CELL PHONES AND SMARTPHONES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE.
05:06:36PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, WAIVE THE RULES TO CONTINUE THE USE
05:06:40PM OF CMT OF TONIGHT'S HEARING.
05:06:42PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
05:06:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:06:46PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:06:48PM MISS DOCK, ARE WE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA AT THIS
05:06:54PM TIME.
05:06:54PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, CHAIRMAN CITRO.
05:06:58PM LaCHONE DOCK.
05:06:58PM IF I CAN CLEAR THE AGENDA.
05:07:00PM COUNCIL, NUMBER ONE ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE NOT ON THE AGENDA ITEM
05:07:03PM NUMBER SEVEN.
05:07:04PM THIS IS FILE NUMBER FILE NO. REZ-22-126.
05:07:10PM THE APPLICANT IS STEVE MICHELINI.
05:07:14PM HE IS HERE THIS EVENING.
05:07:15PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:07:21PM I APOLOGIZE FOR A LATE NOTICE ON A REQUEST.
05:07:25PM HOWEVER, WE DO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT ITEM 7 BE CONTINUED
05:07:29PM TO A DATE IN THE FUTURE TO BE DETERMINED BY STAFF.
05:07:33PM THEY ADVISED ME THAT THE OTHER AGENDAS ARE FAIRLY FULL, SO
05:07:37PM YOUR MOTION MAY NEED TO INCLUDE A WAIVER OF THE 180 DAYS
05:07:40PM WHICH WE WOULD ALSO BE REQUESTING.
05:07:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT DATE DO I HAVE --
05:07:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I MAY.
05:07:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
05:07:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 180 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THE FILING.
05:07:54PM IF COUNCIL CAN HEAR FROM MISS DOCK WITH REGARDS TO
05:07:58PM AVAILABLE DATES.
05:07:59PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, COUNCIL, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT
05:08:03PM COORDINATION.
05:08:03PM FOR YOUR AGENDA, THE FEBRUARY DATE IS FULL WHICH IS FEBRUARY
05:08:07PM 19.
05:08:08PM MARCH 9 IS FULL.
05:08:10PM WE HAD A FEW CONTINUANCES FROM THE LAST HEARING TO MARCH.
05:08:14PM THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE IS APRIL 13.
05:08:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO THE PETITIONER?
05:08:23PM >> YES, I'M HERE BEGGING THE INDULGENCE OF COUNCIL, SO YES.
05:08:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION IS --
05:08:29PM >> YES.
05:08:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
05:08:30PM THAT WILL BE APRIL --
05:08:34PM >> APRIL 13.
05:08:35PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: APRIL 13 AT 5:01 P.M.
05:08:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
05:08:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 7.
05:08:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED -- SECOND.
05:08:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITH 180-DAY WAIVER.
05:08:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: FILE NO. REZ-22-126.
05:08:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY QUESTION IS, ANYONE IN THE ROOM WISHING
05:08:53PM TO SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE ONLY ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7.
05:08:57PM FILE NO. REZ-22-126.
05:09:00PM ANYONE IN THE ROOM THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE
05:09:03PM ONLY?
05:09:06PM >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, COUNCIL, WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS
05:09:08PM FROM ANYONE REGARDING THE NOTICE.
05:09:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE THAT WANTED TO
05:09:15PM SPEAK TO THAT?
05:09:17PM >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
05:09:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:09:19PM AGAIN, WE HAVE A MOTION THAT WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:09:23PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:09:25PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
05:09:28PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:09:30PM MOTION CARRESTS.
05:09:31PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
05:09:32PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND
05:09:36PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND CONTINUE WITH THE ITEMS.
05:09:37PM ITEM NUMBER 8 WAS WITHDRAWN FROM THE APPLICANT.
05:09:40PM IF WE CAN REMOVE FROM THE AGENDA.
05:09:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO WITHDRAW.
05:09:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND SECONDED
05:09:48PM BY COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR FILE NO. REZ-22-30 .
05:09:50PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
05:09:53PM OPPOSED?
05:09:55PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU.
05:09:55PM AND ITEM --
05:09:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION PASSES.
05:09:59PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ITEM NUMBER 9, FILE NO. REZ-22-106 .
05:10:03PM THE APPLICANT HAS WITHDRAWN THIS REQUEST.
05:10:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THEY --
05:10:10PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: TO THEY HAVE WITHDRAWN.
05:10:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE SECOND TIME WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HEAR
05:10:15PM THIS.
05:10:16PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THEY HAVE WITHDRAWN THE APPLICATION.
05:10:18PM THIS NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
05:10:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:10:21PM I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:10:23PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO WITHDRAW FILE NO. REZ-22-106.
05:10:30PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:10:33PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:10:35PM MOTION PASSES.
05:10:36PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THAT CLEARS THE AGENDA THIS EVENING,
05:10:39PM COUNCIL.
05:10:39PM AND THE FIRST ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:10:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION.
05:10:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
05:10:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
05:10:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:10:50PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:10:52PM MOTION PASSES.
05:10:52PM ANYONE GIVING ANY EVIDENCE THIS EVENING, MAKING ANY COMMENTS
05:10:59PM THIS EVENING IN THIS CHAMBER OR DOWN ON THE SECOND FLOOR,
05:11:03PM WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE TO BE SWORN IN.
05:11:08PM ANYONE WHO IS GIVING ANY TESTIMONY.
05:11:10PM [SWEARING IN]
05:11:20PM >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
05:11:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM WE WILL HEAR IS AGENDA
05:11:33PM ITEM NUMBER 1, FILE NO. AB2-22-09.
05:11:36PM MISS COYLE.
05:11:40PM UNLESS WE ARE GOING TO HEAR STAFF.
05:11:47PM MR. SHELBY.
05:11:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
05:11:50PM COUNCIL, THIS ITEM, FILE NO. AB2-22-09 IS HERE BECAUSE OF A
05:11:58PM TIE VOTE ON DECEMBER 8.
05:12:00PM PURSUANT TO RULE 6H OF CITY COUNCIL'S RULES OF PROCEDURES.
05:12:06PM NOW THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS AS FOLLOWS: THAT COUNCIL
05:12:11PM MOVES TO CONTINUE SAILED PUBLIC HEARING TO MARCH 23, 2023 AT
05:12:16PM 5:01 P.M. PER THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT.
05:12:19PM AGAIN THE MOTION FAILED DUE TO LACK OF A 2/3 WITH GUDES,
05:12:25PM MIRANDA AND CARLSON VOTING NO AND COUNCILMAN VIERA BEING
05:12:30PM ABSENT.
05:12:30PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, ARE YOU PROPOSED TO VOTE TONIGHT.
05:12:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, YES, I REVIEWED THE
05:12:38PM REQUISITE INFORMATION.
05:12:39PM I WAS OUT FOR A FUNERAL OF A CHILDHOOD FRIEND, AND I AM
05:12:43PM PREPARED TO VOTE.
05:12:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
05:12:45PM AND ALSO, I BELIEVE THERE IS AN ISSUE WHETHER THIS
05:12:48PM APPLICATION IS AT -- OR WOULD BE PAST 180 DAYS AS OF MARCH
05:12:54PM 23.
05:12:55PM AND I BELIEVE MISS COYLE OR MISS DOCK.
05:12:58PM WHO WOULD BE ADDRESSING THAT, THAT ISSUE?
05:13:03PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, COUNCIL, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT
05:13:06PM COORDINATION.
05:13:06PM IT WOULD BE BEYOND THAT 180-DAY TIME FRAME, AND I BELIEVE THE
05:13:11PM APPLICANT IS WILLING TO WAIVE.
05:13:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH THAT BEING SAID AND THE MOTION ON THE
05:13:14PM FLOOR, IF WE CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT WITH REGARD TO THE
05:13:18PM WAIVER OF THE 180 DAYS.
05:13:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY ASK ONE TIME, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE
05:13:23PM THIS CASE BEEN CONTINUED?
05:13:29PM I THINK YOU CAN ANSWER THAT.
05:13:30PM MISS DOCK --
05:13:33PM >> TWICE.
05:13:34PM ORIGINALLY SEPTEMBER TO OCTOBER, ONE MONTH.
05:13:36PM AND THEN OCTOBER TO LAST WEEK.
05:13:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT WERE THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES?
05:13:46PM >> AND OUR MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
05:13:48PM WE HAD A MEETING LAST NIGHT WITH THEM WHICH WENT VERY WELL
05:13:51PM AND TRYING TO GET ON THEIR FEBRUARY 23 MEETING FOR THE
05:13:54PM GENERAL MEETING.
05:13:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE OF THAT
05:13:57PM TIME PLUS THE WAIVER OF 180 DAYS AND YOU ARE -- AND YOUR
05:14:02PM CIRCUMSTANCES ARE --
05:14:03PM >> OUT OF OUR CONTROL UNDER FORCE MAJEURE OR EXTENUATING
05:14:10PM CIRCUMSTANCES.
05:14:11PM WE DO NOT CONTROL THE CALENDARS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
05:14:15PM ASSOCIATIONS OR COUNCIL'S CALENDARS.
05:14:17PM WE WANT TO TALK TO THEM AND COME BACK WHEN WE COORDINATED
05:14:22PM WITH THEM.
05:14:22PM AS FAR AS THE WAIVER I DISCUSSED THIS WITH MR. SHELBY
05:14:27PM EARLIER IN THE WEEK AND OUR FIRM STANCE THAT IT IS NOT
05:14:30PM TECHNICALLY A WAIVER WE ARE REQUESTING FROM YOU.
05:14:33PM BUT AN AGREEMENT FROM BOTH PARTIES THE TIME CAN EXTEND.
05:14:36PM WE ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THE TIME CAN EXTEND.
05:14:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS.
05:14:42PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WAS THIS THE CASE FROM LAST WEEK.
05:14:44PM TAMPA HEIGHTS WITH BRIAN.
05:14:48PM >> HE GOT UP AND HE WANTED THE CONTINUANCE AND T.H.A.N. AND
05:14:55PM THEY WOULD LIKE THE CONTINUANCE.
05:14:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
05:15:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
05:15:01PM I AM INCLINED TO SUPPORT THE CONTINUANCE.
05:15:04PM I THINK IT IS REASONABLE AND WHATNOT.
05:15:06PM I KNOW THERE WERE CONCERNS RAISED ON ANOTHER CASE THAT I
05:15:09PM WASN'T HERE FOR.
05:15:10PM SO IT DOESN'T APPLICABLE FOR ME.
05:15:17PM AND FINE REASONS GIVEN AND I AM FINE FOR THAT.
05:15:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:15:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT OPPOSED, BUT THE LEGAL
05:15:27PM DEPARTMENT GIVE US -- 180 DAYS THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE WITHIN
05:15:30PM THAT TIME OR BRING IN -- AND YOU GOT TO WAIT SIX MONTHS.
05:15:35PM SOMETHING THAT WAS WRITTEN WAY BACK.
05:15:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MIRANDA, MAYBE WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT
05:15:42PM UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
05:15:43PM I HAVE DONE RESEARCH.
05:15:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE --
05:15:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT CONCERNING THIS CASE.
05:15:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND
05:15:53PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:15:54PM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE
05:15:58PM ONLY OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1, FILE NO. AB2-22-09.
05:16:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I
05:16:06PM BELIEVE THAT OPPORTUNITY WAS AT THE LAST MEETING TO DO THAT.
05:16:09PM THIS WAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF HAVING MR. VIERA TO BE ABLE
05:16:14PM TO CATCH UP AND VOTE.
05:16:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I STAND CORRECTED.
05:16:20PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:16:23PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:16:25PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:16:26PM TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:16:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:16:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:16:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL SAY YES BUT ONLY DOING IT BECAUSE
05:16:40PM THEY DID MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
05:16:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:16:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:16:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:16:48PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
05:16:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE DATE AND TIME IF WE CAN ANNOUNCE IT FOR
05:16:59PM PURPOSES OF THE RECORD.
05:17:00PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
05:17:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST SO WE ARE CLEAR, MISS COYLE, NO OTHER
05:17:07PM NOTICE OF THAT CONTINUANCE.
05:17:08PM NO POSTING, NO MAILING.
05:17:09PM THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE PEOPLE TO KNOW WHEN THIS
05:17:12PM ITEM IS BEING CONTINUED TO AND THAT AGAIN IS THE -- FOR THE
05:17:16PM CLERK, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT IS MARCH 23, 2023 AT 5:01
05:17:20PM P.M., IS THAT CORRECT?
05:17:22PM >>CLERK: THAT IS CORRECT.
05:17:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MISS COYLE.
05:17:26PM >> THANK YOU.
05:17:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS WELLS, IT LOOKS AS IF YOU ARE STEP
05:17:33PM SOMETHING UP TO THE PODIUM.
05:17:34PM >>CATE WELLS: WITH ITEM 1 CONTINUED, THEN WE ARE PREPARED TO
05:17:40PM MOVE ON WITH ITEM NUMBER 2.
05:17:42PM AND I WOULD ASK THAT BOTH THE REZONING APPLICATION AND THE
05:17:49PM AMENDMENT TO THE DRI BE OPENED TOGETHER.
05:17:51PM IT HAS BEEN NOTICED THAT SAME WAY ON YOUR AGENDA, ALL UNDER
05:17:55PM ITEM NUMBER 2.
05:17:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY ARE OPEN.
05:17:58PM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, CATE WELLS, DEPUTY CITY
05:18:05PM ATTORNEY AND WITH ME IS URSULA RICHARDSON, SENIOR ATTORNEY
05:18:09PM FOR THE LITIGATION PRACTICE GROUP.
05:18:11PM THIS ITEM IS BEFORE COUNCIL BASED ON A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
05:18:14PM REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION FROM A REQUEST FOR RELIEF FILED BY
05:18:18PM LIBERTY HOSPITALITY MANAGEMENT LCC PURSUANT TO 70.51 FLORIDA
05:18:25PM STATUTES OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE FLORIDA LAND USE AND
05:18:29PM ENVIRONMENTAL DISPUTE RESOLUTION ACT.
05:18:32PM IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE CITY COUNCIL HAS RESULTED IN A
05:18:35PM SETTLEMENT FROM A 70.51 PROCEEDING AND I WANT TO MAKE A FEW
05:18:41PM COMMENTS OF THE PROCESS OF TONIGHT'S HEARING BEFORE
05:18:43PM PROVIDING THE HISTORY OF THE APPLICATION AND THE DETAILS OF
05:18:47PM THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT.
05:18:48PM UNLIKE THE STANDARD REZONING APPLICATIONS SCHEDULED FOR YOUR
05:18:52PM REZONING THIS EVENING, ANY TIME CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERS A
05:18:55PM SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL, YOUR ROLE IS LEGISLATIVE AND ALLOW
05:18:59PM COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ITEMS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S LAND
05:19:02PM DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, INCLUDING BUT
05:19:05PM NOT LIMITED TO THE IMPACT AND PUBLIC INTEREST RESULTING FROM
05:19:08PM THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT.
05:19:10PM AFTER I CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION, YOU WILL HEAR FROM SCOTT
05:19:13PM STEADY, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE RETAINED BY THE CITY AND
05:19:16PM LIBERTY.
05:19:17PM ONCE MR. STEADY MAKES HIS PRESENTATION ON THE MEDIATION
05:19:20PM PROCESS AND EXPLAINS HIS RECOMMENDATION, YOU WILL HEAR FROM
05:19:24PM CITY STAFF, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, THE APPLICANT, THE
05:19:28PM PUBLIC, AND I RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONCLUDE THE HEARING ONCE
05:19:32PM YOU PROVIDE THE APPLICANT WITH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL.
05:19:34PM AND FINALLY, AS YOU CONSIDER THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE
05:19:38PM ENTERED INTO THE RECORD OF TONIGHT'S HEARING, PLEASE
05:19:41PM REMEMBER THAT ALTHOUGH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S REPORT AND
05:19:44PM RECOMMENDATION IS A PUBLIC RECORD, ACTIONS OR STATEMENTS OF
05:19:48PM REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE CITY AND FOR LIBERTY ARE EVIDENCE OF
05:19:53PM AN OFFER OF COMPROMISE AND INADMISSIBLE IN ANY PROCEEDING.
05:19:57PM I MENTION THIS IN THE EVENT CITY COUNCIL IS CONCERNED OF THE
05:19:59PM POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING PRECEDENT.
05:20:03PM IF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED.
05:20:06PM AT YOUR MAY 12, 2022 MEETING, CITY COUNCIL DENIED THE
05:20:12PM REQUESTED AMENDMENT TO THE HARBOUR ISLAND DRI FROM THE
05:20:15PM REZONING FROM PD TO pD WHICH WOULD ALLOWED THE DEVELOPMENT
05:20:19PM OF A 150-ROOM, 12-STORY HOTEL WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 145
05:20:24PM FEET.
05:20:25PM CITY COUNCIL DENIED BOTH APPLICATIONS BY A 4-2 VOTE, AND THE
05:20:29PM MOTION TO DENY FOCUSED ON TWO KEY AREAS.
05:20:31PM FIRST, THE FAILURE TO ESTABLISH COMPATIBILITY WITH THE
05:20:35PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:20:36PM ALTHOUGH THE RMU-100 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY ALLOWED
05:20:41PM CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATIONS, COUNCIL FOUND THAT THE
05:20:43PM PROPOSED USE AND INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT WAS NOT COMPATIBLE
05:20:47PM WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN SOUTH OF KNIGHTS RUN
05:20:52PM AVENUE AND THE APPLICANT'S FAILURE TO COMPLY 27-136 OF THE
05:20:57PM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ENTITLED "THE PURPOSE OF A SITE PLAN
05:21:00PM CONTROL DISTRICT."
05:21:02PM COUNCIL FOUND THAT THE HOTEL PROJECT DID NOT PROMOTE OR
05:21:05PM ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION,
05:21:08PM CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING
05:21:10PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:21:10PM COUNCIL CITED THE INCOMPATIBILITY OF THE SURROUNDING
05:21:19PM ENVIRONMENT AND THE ANTICIPATED HOTEL TRAFFIC WITH THE
05:21:21PM EXISTING RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC.
05:21:23PM ON JUNE 14 OF THIS YEAR, LIBERTY FILED THIS REQUEST FOR
05:21:26PM RELIEF PURSUANT TO 77.51.
05:21:30PM TWO DAYS LATER LIBERTY FILED A PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI
05:21:36PM AND 42 USC 1983 WHICH ALLEGES THAT COUNCIL'S DECISION
05:21:42PM VIOLATED LIBERTY'S CONSTITUTIONAL GUARANTEE OF EQUAL
05:21:45PM PROTECTION AND WAS A VIOLATION OF PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS.
05:21:50PM MISS RICHARDSON IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
05:21:53PM REGARDING THE LITIGATION WHICH BY THE WAY IS STAYED PENDING
05:21:57PM THE OUTCOME OF TONIGHT'S PROCEEDINGS.
05:21:59PM TURNING YOUR ATTENTION BACK TO THE PROCEDURAL HISTORY OF
05:22:03PM THIS APPLICATION, WHEN THE REQUEST FOR RELIEF WAS ORIGINALLY
05:22:06PM FILED WITH THE CITY, MY OFFICE PROVIDED CITY COUNCIL WITH
05:22:10PM MEMORANDUM OF ADMINISTRATIVE UNDER 70.
05:22:12PM 51 THAT INVOLVES A TWO-STEP PROCESS.
05:22:15PM THE FIRST OF WHICH REQUIRES A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO CONDUCT
05:22:19PM AN INFORMAL MEDIATION OF WHICH THE CITY AND LIBERTY CONSIDER
05:22:22PM ALTERNATIVE DEVELOPMENTS RESPONSIVE TO COUNCIL'S DECISION ON
05:22:27PM THE APPLICATION.
05:22:28PM IN THIS CASE, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE CONDUCTED A MEDIATION
05:22:33PM AUGUST 31 AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
05:22:35PM LIBERTY PROVIDED A REVISED SITE PLAN INTENDED TO ADDRESS THE
05:22:39PM BASIS FOR COUNCIL'S DENIAL.
05:22:40PM COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, AS WELL
05:22:44PM AS CITY REPRESENTATIVES AND AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE
05:22:46PM MEDIATION, THE CITY AGREED TO PRESENT THE REVISED PLANS TO
05:22:49PM CITY COUNCIL.
05:22:52PM TONIGHT 'S HEARING IS PART OF THAT FIRST STEP OF THE
05:22:55PM ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS AND REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER
05:22:58PM THE REVISED SITE PLAN AS A PROPOSED SETTLEMENT.
05:23:01PM IF THE CITY REJECTS THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT, THE SECOND STEP
05:23:05PM IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS IS TRIGGERED THAT ALLOWS A
05:23:09PM HEARING FOR THE SPECIAL MOTHER OF CITY COUNCIL'S ACTION BACK
05:23:13PM IN MAY OF THIS YEAR WAS UNREASONABLE OR UNFAIRLY BURDENS THE
05:23:19PM PROPERTY.
05:23:19PM THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS
05:23:22PM DENIED EARLIER THIS YEAR.
05:23:23PM THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN PROPOSED A 12 MACHINE STORY HOTEL
05:23:27PM WITH 150 ROOMS AT A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 145 FEET.
05:23:33PM PRESIDENT REDESIGNED PROJECT REDUCES FAR FROM 3.2 TO 2.95.
05:23:39PM LOWERS THE HEIGHT OF THE HOTEL FROM 12 STORIES TO 10 STORIES
05:23:43PM AT A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 109 FEET AND 3 INCHES.
05:23:47PM IT REDUCES THE NUMBER OF HOTEL ROOMS FROM 150 TO 145.
05:23:52PM AND REQUESTS A WAIVER TO ALLOW REDUCTION IN PARKING FROM 153
05:23:57PM SPACES TO 116 SPACES.
05:24:00PM THERE IS A DISCREPANCY IN THE NUMBER OF SPACES IN THE
05:24:05PM REZONING STAFF REPORT FROM THE DRI ORDINANCE.
05:24:08PM I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY RIGHT NOW.
05:24:10PM IT IS 116 SPACE THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED, NOT 115, WHICH WAS
05:24:15PM IDENTIFIED ELSEWHERE IN SOME DOCUMENTS.
05:24:17PM DURING THE MEDIATION, CITY REPRESENTATIVES MADE IT CLEAR TO
05:24:21PM LIBERTY THAT THE CITY'S WILLINGNESS TO PRESENT AND SUPPORT
05:24:24PM THE REDESIGN PROJECT SHOULD NOT BE INTERPRETED AS EVIDENCE
05:24:28PM OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE CRITERIA FOR THE REQUESTED
05:24:32PM WAIVER.
05:24:32PM THIS IS LIBERTY'S BURDEN AND ONE THEY MUST ESTABLISH DURING
05:24:36PM TONIGHT'S HEARING.
05:24:37PM A REGULAR REZONING OR QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING, CITY COUNCIL
05:24:41PM LOOKS SOLELY TO WHETHER THE APPLICANT HAS DEMONSTRATED BY
05:24:45PM COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE PROJECT MEETS THE
05:24:47PM CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND CONSISTENT WITH THE
05:24:51PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:24:51PM BUT BECAUSE THIS IS A SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL OTHER FACTORS THAT
05:24:55PM CITY COUNCIL MUST TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION INCLUDING THE FACT
05:24:57PM THAT IF THE SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL IS APPROVED, ALL PENDING
05:25:01PM ACTION AND LITIGATION WILL BE DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE, WITH
05:25:04PM EACH PARTY BEARING ITS OWN ATTORNEY FEES AND COSTS.
05:25:07PM PURR SUPERINTENDENT TO 70.51, SUBSECTIONS 21, CITY COUNCIL
05:25:12PM HAS THREE OPTIONS THIS EVENING: APPROVE THE SPECIAL
05:25:17PM MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION, REJECT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
05:25:20PM RECOMMENDATION, OR MODIFY THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
05:25:24PM RECOMMENDATION.
05:25:25PM IF YOU APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION, YOU THEN HAVE TO GO ON
05:25:28PM AND IMPLEMENT IT.
05:25:29PM AND YOU IMPLEMENT IT BY PLACING THE REZONING ORDINANCE ON
05:25:32PM FIRST READING.
05:25:33PM AND THEN PLACING THE ORDINANCE ON THE DRI AMENDMENT ON FIRST
05:25:37PM READING AND HAVE SECOND READING ON BOTH ORDINANCES NEXT
05:25:42PM YEAR.
05:25:42PM WITH RESPECT TO THE ABILITY TO MODIFY, THE SPECIAL
05:25:46PM MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION, YOU CAN DO SO ONLY IF LIBERTY
05:25:49PM IS WILLING TO ACCEPT THE MODIFICATIONS.
05:25:52PM SO UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR MISS RICHARDSON,
05:25:57PM I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO MR. STEADY.
05:26:00PM THANK YOU.
05:26:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:26:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK YOU AND MISS RICHARDSON A QUESTION
05:26:13PM AND YOU CAN CUT ME OFF IF I COULDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION.
05:26:17PM COULD YOU TELL ME THE DECISION THAT CITY COUNCIL MADE, NOT
05:26:22PM THE LITIGATION BUT THE DECISION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DID
05:26:25PM NOT TAKE AWAY ANY ENTITLEMENTS.
05:26:28PM A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ENTITLEMENT AND REQUEST TO CHANGE
05:26:34PM THE ENTITLEMENT IS NOT AN ENTITLEMENT, CORRECT.
05:26:38PM CITY COUNCIL DECIDED NOT TO GIVE A NEW ENTITLEMENT.
05:26:43PM >> IF YOU DON'T MIND, I THINK ANNIE BARNES IN HER
05:26:47PM PRESENTATION WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT.
05:26:49PM IF SHE DOESN'T, I AM HAPPY TO COME BACK UP TO THE PODIUM AND
05:26:52PM ANSWER THAT.
05:26:53PM I THINK BEFORE WE GET THERE, IF WE CAN JUST ALLOW MR. STEAD
05:26:56PM TOW MAKE HIS PRESENTATION AND GO THROUGH -- STEADY TO MAKE
05:27:00PM HIS PRESENTATION AND GO THROUGHOUT TYPICAL HEARING PROCESS.
05:27:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS WELLS, WOULD YOU WILL STEADY TO SPEAK
05:27:07PM FIRST OR CAN I MAKE THE INQUIRY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION.
05:27:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME ASK COUNCIL IF ANY OF YOU HAD
05:27:19PM EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION -- SPECIFICALLY VERBAL EX-PARTE
05:27:24PM COMMUNICATION OF ANYBODY RELATED TO THIS CASE, THE QUASI
05:27:28PM JUDICIAL MATTERS AND ANYTHING RELATING TO THAT MATTER,
05:27:35PM DISCLOSE THEM THE SUM AND SUBSTANCE AND WITH WHOM IT
05:27:40PM OCCURRED.
05:27:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM A CALLER.
05:27:47PM I CALLED BACK.
05:27:48PM MR. DOUG BELDEN WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS CASE.
05:27:51PM I TOLD HIM I COULD NOT TALK ABOUT THIS CASE.
05:27:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:27:55PM THANK YOU.
05:27:56PM ANYBODY ELSE.
05:27:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: MISS WELLS SUGGESTED THAT AT LEAST I SAW
05:28:01PM NEWS ARTICLES THAT WERE WRITTEN ABOUT THIS.
05:28:03PM THAT WAS IN ADDITION OF HUNDREDS OF E-MAILS WE GOT.
05:28:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO VERBAL COMMUNICATION AT THIS POINT.
05:28:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:28:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DIDN'T HAVE ANY VERBAL COMMUNICATION BUT I
05:28:19PM HAD PEOPLE@ME ON TWITTER AND I SCREEN SHOT AND PUT IT IN THE
05:28:24PM QUASI BOX.
05:28:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
05:28:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I RECEIVED THE SAME CALL.
05:28:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I RECEIVED THE SAME CALL AS MR. BELDEN AND I
05:28:36PM SAID I CANNOT SPEAK OF IT.
05:28:37PM ALSO TWO PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAD APPROACHED ME AND I
05:28:41PM SAID, NO, I CANNOT SPEAK ABOUT IT.
05:28:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR CITRO.
05:28:46PM YES, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:28:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SAME CALL THAT OTHERS RECEIVED FROM
05:28:50PM BELDEN, BUT THIS IS IT THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN BACK IN MAY.
05:28:56PM I DISCLOSED IT THEN.
05:28:57PM SAME THING.
05:28:58PM CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT.
05:28:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: I FEEL LEFT OUT, I DIDN'T GET A CALL FROM DOUG
05:29:03PM BELDEN.
05:29:03PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
05:29:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM LEFT OUT WITH YOU.
05:29:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARDS TO THE WRITTEN COMMUNICATION
05:29:10PM AND WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE QUASI BOX.
05:29:13PM WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS THAT COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE BEEN
05:29:17PM RECEIVED THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC
05:29:20PM INSPECTION.
05:29:20PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
05:29:25PM FILE OF THOSE INTO THE RECORD AT THIS TIME.
05:29:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
05:29:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
05:29:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
05:29:33PM ANY OPPOSED.
05:29:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
05:29:38PM >> CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, SCOTT STEADY, ONE
05:29:43PM TAMPA CITY CENTER.
05:29:44PM AS CATE SAID, I WAS THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE THAT HANDLED THE
05:29:50PM MEDIATION PART OF THIS PROJECT.
05:29:53PM I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS.
05:29:56PM THE PROCESS IS CREATED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE AS AN
05:29:59PM ALTERNATIVE TO LITIGATION, HOPEFULLY TO AVOID LITIGATION.
05:30:02PM THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE ONCE THE PETITION IS
05:30:08PM FILED.
05:30:08PM AND STAFF, ON YOUR BEHALF, IS REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE IN
05:30:13PM GOOD FAITH TO TRY TO SEEK SOME RESOLUTION IN THIS MATTER.
05:30:16PM IN FACT, THE STATUTE SAYS THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEONE WHO
05:30:19PM ATTENDS THE HEARING OR THE MEETING, THE MEDIATION, THAT HAS
05:30:23PM THE AUTHORITY TO BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL
05:30:26PM WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS REACHED AT THE MEDIATION.
05:30:29PM AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR TODAY.
05:30:31PM I THINK BOTTOM LINE IS BOTH THE STAFF, YOUR STAFF, AND THE
05:30:35PM -- THE DEVELOPER IN GOOD FAITH TRIED TO MAKE CHANGES TO
05:30:38PM ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL'S CONCERNS IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THIS IS
05:30:43PM UNDER THE RMU-100 LAND USE CATEGORY, THE MOST INTENSE LAND
05:30:49PM USE CATEGORY THAT THE CITY HAS.
05:30:51PM I THINK THEY MADE THAT EFFORT.
05:30:52PM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PROCESS, WE ARE -- WHERE THEY SAID
05:30:59PM AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY, THERE WAS
05:31:02PM A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO STILL HAD CONCERNS AND TO ACTIONS,
05:31:05PM AND I BELIEVE THEY ARE ALL HERE THIS EVENING.
05:31:06PM SO THEY HAD THAT RIGHT CERTAINLY.
05:31:10PM BUT WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, I STILL THINK THAT THE PLAN IS
05:31:15PM WORTHY OF YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
05:31:18PM AND UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:31:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:31:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SPECIAL MASTER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
05:31:28PM YOU SAY THE CITY HAS TO ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT TO MEDIATE,
05:31:33PM CORRECT, SIR?
05:31:35PM >> THEY HAVE TO PARTICIPATE.
05:31:36PM IN OTHER WORDS, OFTENTIMES RESIDENTS -- WHY IS THE CITY
05:31:40PM HERE, WHY IS STAFF TALKING ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE THE
05:31:42PM LEGISLATURE SAYS THEY NEED TO BE THERE AND PARTICIPATE IN
05:31:44PM THE MEDIATION.
05:31:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAIN, WERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOLKS ABLE TO
05:31:51PM SEND LETTERS AND TALK IN REFERENCE WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING
05:31:53PM FOR TO BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS?
05:31:55PM >> WELL, OKAY, THAT IS ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT OF A -- LET ME
05:31:59PM EXPLAIN.
05:31:59PM THE MEDIATION -- TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE -- THIS
05:32:03PM COMES UP A LOT.
05:32:04PM THE MEDIATION IS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER.
05:32:07PM SO THE -- THE MAJORITY OF THE DISCUSSION, I AM MEDIATING
05:32:13PM BETWEEN THOSE TWO PARTIES.
05:32:14PM THE PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATE UNDER THE STATUTE ONLY GET TO
05:32:18PM PARTICIPATE IF THERE IS A PRO TO HE ISSED SOLUTION THAT WILL
05:32:21PM COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL.
05:32:23PM I KNOW THAT FRUSTRATES A LOT OF PEOPLE.
05:32:25PM SO WHAT HAPPENED AT THIS MEDIA IGS THAT HAPPENS AT OTHER
05:32:28PM MEDIATIONS THAT I AM IN.
05:32:31PM ONCE THERE IS A PLAN THAT COULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO CITY
05:32:38PM COUNCIL THEN THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DISCUSS IT AND VOICE THEIR
05:32:40PM CONCERNS.
05:32:40PM SO IT IS LIMITED UNDER THAT PROCESS.
05:32:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION.
05:32:47PM >> PAURD PARDEN ME?
05:32:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION.
05:32:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY ELSE.
05:32:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WILL YOU BE STAYING IN THE ROOM?
05:33:01PM >> YES.
05:33:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:33:03PM MISS BARNES.
05:33:04PM >>ANNIE BARNES: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:33:06PM ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:33:08PM I AM GOING TO BRIEFLY INTRODUCE THIS CASE, FILE NO. REZ
05:33:15PM 21-52-C & NPC 22-01-C.
05:33:15PM A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM PD, FOR A BANK, BUSINESS
05:33:20PM PROFESSIONAL OFFICE TO A HOTEL WITH ANCILLARY USES.
05:33:25PM FOR 800 SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD.
05:33:29PM I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND
05:33:32PM AFTER THEIR PRESENTATION, I WILL CONCLUDE MINE.
05:33:34PM >>SAM THOMAS: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, SAM THOMAS WITH YOUR PLANNING
05:33:55PM COMMISSION STAFF.
05:33:55PM AS NOTED ON HARBOUR ISLAND WITHIN THE TAMPA CENTRAL PLANNING
05:34:00PM DISTRICT AND WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
05:34:03PM TRANSIT SERVICE IS PROVIDED BY THE STOP WITH THE TROLLEY 0.4
05:34:08PM MILES AWAY ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND THE SITE IN THE LEVEL A
05:34:13PM EVACUATION ROUTE.
05:34:14PM HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON THE CORNER OF
05:34:17PM SOUTH HARBOR BOULEVARD AND KNIGHTS RUN AVENUE.
05:34:20PM AS YOU CAN SEE IT IS URBAN IN CHARACTER --
05:34:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME.
05:34:25PM I APOLOGIZE.
05:34:26PM I.T., CAN WE HAVE THE ELMO UP -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:34:31PM PLEASE PROCEED.
05:34:34PM >> URBAN IN CHARACTER AND A MIXTURE OF IT MID-RISE AND
05:34:38PM LOW-RISE DEVELOPMENT WITH A MIXTURE OF ALSO SINGLE FAMILY
05:34:41PM DETACHED AND ATTACHED UNITS AND MULTIFAMILY LOW-RISE UNITS.
05:34:45PM A MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL USES ALONG JACKSON AND HARPER PLACE
05:34:51PM DRIVE AND CHANNELSIDE WAY AND NORTH OF THE ISLAND IS THE
05:34:55PM CONVENTION CENTER THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
05:34:57PM HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
05:35:01PM SUBJECT SITE IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE REGIONAL MIXED USE-100
05:35:06PM DESIGNATION AS THE ENTIRE ISLAND.
05:35:09PM THE WHOLE ISLAND FOR HIGH-INTENSITY MIXED USE.
05:35:15PM NOT THAT THE WHOLE ISLAND IS, BUT IT IS PLANNED FOR A
05:35:18PM MIXTURE OF USES.
05:35:19PM THE ONLY LAND DESIGNATION IN HARBOUR ISLAND AND HAS BEEN
05:35:23PM FEBRUARY 5, 1989 PER PLANNING COMMISSION ARCHIVES.
05:35:27PM THE HIGHEST LAND USE DESIGNATION OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRAL
05:35:31PM BUSINESS DISTRICT.
05:35:32PM THE DARK MAROON COLOR THAT REPRESENTS THE BUSINESS
05:35:36PM DISTRICTS.
05:35:36PM PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
05:35:39PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:35:39PM DOES NOT WREG LATE MIGHT, BUT PROVIDES A GUIDELINES -- IT
05:35:43PM DOES PROVIDE A GUIDELINE FOR THE REGIONAL MIXED USE-100, THE
05:35:47PM GUIDELINES IS AROUND 24 STORIES.
05:35:49PM FOUND THAT THE PROPOSED TEN-STORY BUILDING IS SIMILAR WITH
05:35:53PM THE PLAN, SIMILAR AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA
05:35:56PM AND BUILDINGS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:35:57PM WE ALSO FOUND THAT THE PROP POSED DEVELOPMENT IS FURTHERING
05:36:02PM THE MIXED USE POLICY BY PROVIDING A PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE
05:36:05PM ALONG KNIGHTS RUN THAT CONNECTS TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK.
05:36:09PM THE INTEGRATED AND SCREEN PARKING GAR A RAJ SUPPORTS MANY
05:36:14PM POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WITHIN THE COASTAL
05:36:16PM HIGH HAZARD AND COMMERCIAL AND IT YOU NOT INCREASE THE
05:36:19PM NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS, THE PROPOSED REZONING IS NOT
05:36:22PM SUBJECT TO 1.2.2.
05:36:24PM OVERALL, THE PROPOSE REZONING IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE
05:36:28PM AND CONSISTENT WITH THE UNDERLYING LAND USE OF REGIONAL
05:36:32PM MIXED 100.
05:36:34PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY
05:36:36PM QUESTIONS.
05:36:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:36:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NEED TO CLEAR MY HEAD A LITTLE BIT.
05:36:41PM WHERE THIS REZONING IS AT, ARE THERE ANY BUILDINGS OF THAT
05:36:46PM SIZE ON THE WEST SIDE -- SOUTH OF KNIGHTS RUN -- ON THE
05:36:50PM WEST SIDE OF THE ISLAND?
05:36:52PM >> I DO BELIEVE --
05:36:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BY KNIGHTS RUN ROAD AUTO I AM TALKING
05:37:00PM ABOUT.
05:37:00PM >> THE ONLY BUILDING ABOVE --
05:37:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BELIEVE --
05:37:05PM >> ON THE NORTH SIDE OF KNIGHTS RUN AVENUE.
05:37:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE SOUTH SIDE.
05:37:10PM >> THE SOUTH SIDE FRONTING KNIGHTS RUN NO BUILDINGS OVER
05:37:14PM TEN STORIES.
05:37:15PM SOUTH, THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE MID-RISES.
05:37:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME.
05:37:21PM ANY OVER 35 FOOT?
05:37:23PM >> OVER 35 FOOT?
05:37:25PM I CANNOT GUARANTEE YOU THE ANSWER OF THAT.
05:37:27PM I AM NOT --
05:37:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 35 FOOT BEING A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.
05:37:32PM >> THESE TWO BUILDINGS RIGHT HERE ARE OVER 35 FEET.
05:37:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:37:44PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:37:55PM I AM GOING TO CONTINUE -- DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE
05:38:00PM PROJECT.
05:38:00PM SO THE CURRENT BUILDING ON-SITE IS A ONE-STORY BUILDING
05:38:05PM CONSTRUCTED IN 1987.
05:38:07PM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE
05:38:11PM INTERSECTION OF KNIGHTS RUN AVENUE AND SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND
05:38:16PM BOULEVARD THAT I WILL SHOW OVERHEAD.
05:38:17PM THE PROPERTY SR. SURROUNDED BY PDA AND PDZ ZONING DISTRICTS.
05:38:33PM TO THE EAST CONTAINS A FITNESS CENTER KNOWN AS THE HARBOUR
05:38:38PM ISLAND ATHLETIC CLUB.
05:38:39PM TO THE NORTH BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, TWO HARBOUR
05:38:45PM PLACE.
05:38:45PM A RETENTION POND WEST OF THE SITE SHOWN HERE.
05:38:48PM AND THIS SITE IS LOCATED -- ALL OF HARBOUR ISLAND IS LOCATED
05:38:52PM IN THE HARBOUR ISLAND DRI, DRI 270.
05:38:58PM AS MISS WELLS ALREADY STATED MAY 12, 2022, CITY COUNCIL
05:39:05PM DENIED THE INITIAL REZONING APPLICATION.
05:39:07PM THE INITIAL REQUEST WAS FOR APPROVAL OF A HOTEL WITH
05:39:12PM ANCILLARY USES THAT INCLUDED 150 ROOMS, 12 STORIES IN
05:39:17PM HEIGHT, WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 129 FEET AND 6 INCHES.
05:39:21PM AND HOTEL SPACE OCCUPYING SIX STORIES.
05:39:26PM GARAGE SPACE OCCUPYING FOUR STORIES.
05:39:29PM LOBBY, BAR AND AMENITIES.
05:39:31PM THE SETBACKS WERE AS FOLLOWING.
05:39:34PM NORTH FOUR FEET.
05:39:35PM SOUTH FOUR FEET.
05:39:36PM EAST 50 FEET AND WEST THREE FEET.
05:39:39PM 168 PARKING SPACES WERE REQUIRED AND 160 SPACES WERE
05:39:44PM PROVIDED.
05:39:45PM AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 70.A 51 SOUTH FLORIDA STATUTE
05:39:51PM A DEMAND FOR RELIEF WAS FILED.
05:39:52PM OP AUGUST 31, 2022 THE CITY AND APPLICANT EXPLORED REVISE
05:39:59PM TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT DURING THIS MEDIATION.
05:40:01PM THE CURRENT SITE PLAN PROVIDED TO YOU IS THIS ALTERNATE SITE
05:40:06PM PLAN FOR HOTEL IN ANCILLARY USE WITH 145 ROOMS, TEN-STORY
05:40:14PM BUILDING WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 109 FEET, 3 INCHES.
05:40:17PM HOTEL SPACE OCCUPYING FIVE STORIES.
05:40:21PM A LOBBY, BAR AND AMENITIES.
05:40:23PM AND WITH REDUCED SETBACKS.
05:40:25PM A TOTAL OF 153 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED.
05:40:29PM AND 116 PARKING SPACES ARE BEING PROVIDED.
05:40:34PM JUST A LITTLE BRIEF HISTORY, IN 1982, HARBOUR ISLAND WAS
05:40:40PM INITIALLY APPROVED AS A DRI, A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL
05:40:44PM IMPACT WITH EXTENSIVE ENTITLEMENT APPROVAL.
05:40:47PM CURRENTLY SURPLUS, UNCONSTRUCTED DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS
05:40:53PM WITH THE HARBOUR ISLAND DRI.
05:40:55PM THIS DRI WAS IMPLEMENTED OVER TIME THROUGH A SERIES OF
05:40:59PM APPLICATIONS SEEKING PD-A AND PD REZONINGS.
05:41:04PM ADDITIONALLY, THIS DRI -- REGIONAL PLAN PROVIDED FLEXIBILITY
05:41:10PM WITH RESPECT TO THE LOCATION OF BUILDINGS AND LAND USES
05:41:13PM BASED ON DESIGN AND FUTURE MARKET CONDITIONS.
05:41:16PM AND I AM JUST GOING TO GO OVER SOME PICTURES OF THE SUBJECT
05:41:24PM SITE AND SURROUNDING USES.
05:41:25PM SHOWN HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING NORTH.
05:41:31PM AGAIN, LOOKING NORTHEAST.
05:41:37PM AND NORTHWEST.
05:41:44PM AS WELL AS SOUTH.
05:41:49PM NORTH AGAIN.
05:41:50PM IF APPROVING THIS APPLICATION, MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED
05:42:00PM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
05:42:02PM AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR
05:42:05PM ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
05:42:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:42:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS BARNES, THE BUILDINGS ON THAT ITEM ARE
05:42:13PM ALL, WHAT, TEN FEET?
05:42:16PM -- TEN STORIES?
05:42:18PM >>ANNIE BARNES: VARYING HEIGHTS.
05:42:20PM I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC HEIGHTS OF EACH BUILDING.
05:42:22PM HISTORICALLY IN THE DESIGN STANDARDS THROUGH THE -- AFTER
05:42:26PM THE DRI PROCESS AND THROUGH PD-As DESIGN STANDARDS WITH A
05:42:32PM MAXIMUM OF 158 FEET IN HEIGHT.
05:42:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
05:42:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:42:38PM POLICE BARNES, WHEN WAS THIS AREA MADE INTO A REGIONAL MIXED
05:42:46PM USE-100?
05:42:46PM >>ANNIE BARNES: I THINK THAT IS MORE FOR -- I BELIEVE SAM
05:42:51PM THOMAS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF STAYED IT WAS
05:42:54PM 1989.
05:42:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 1989 ALL BECAME A REGIONAL MIXED USE-100.
05:43:00PM >>ANNIE BARNES: LET ME HAVE SAM THOMAS OF THE PLANNING
05:43:04PM COMMISSION.
05:43:04PM >>SAM THOMAS: LET'S SEE HERE.
05:43:09PM I GRABBED THE WRONG ONE.
05:43:10PM YES, PER THE ARCHIVES, 1989 IS WHEN IT WAS ESTABLISHED.
05:43:20PM AND I DO HAVE THE ORIGINAL MAPS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE
05:43:23PM THEM.
05:43:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAS IT THE WHOLE ISLAND OR JUST -- THANK YOU
05:43:27PM VERY MUCH.
05:43:27PM >>ANNIE BARNES: NO OTHER QUESTIONS?
05:43:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:43:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST NEED TO KNOW VERY QUICKLY THE
05:43:47PM NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED AND WHAT IS PROVIDED.
05:43:50PM >>ANNIE BARNES: THE ALTERNATIVE SITE PLAN, THE NUMBER OF
05:43:52PM REQUIRED SPACES 160.
05:43:54PM -- SORRY, I APOLOGIZE.
05:43:57PM 153 AND 116 ARE BEING PROVIDED.
05:44:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
05:44:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PETITIONER.
05:44:25PM >> COUNCIL, JAKE CREMER WITH STEARNS, WEAVER, MILLER, EAST
05:44:41PM JACKSON STREET.
05:44:42PM I HAVE A COUPLE POINTS OF ORDER.
05:44:44PM A COMPLICATED MATTER WITH TWO DEVELOPMENT ORDERS AND A
05:44:47PM SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
05:44:48PM I WOULD SUGGEST RATHER THAN HAVING THE FULL AMOUNT OF TIME
05:44:52PM FOR TWO DEVELOPMENT ORDERS, 25 MINUTES FOR INITIAL
05:44:56PM PRESENTATION AND 20 MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
05:44:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
05:45:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
05:45:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
05:45:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
05:45:08PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:45:09PM MOTION PASSES.
05:45:10PM >> THANK YOU.
05:45:12PM SECOND POINT OF ORDER, I HAVE SEVERAL BINDERS WITH YOU FOR
05:45:18PM EVIDENCE TO PRESENT INTO THE RECORD.
05:45:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU HAVE ONE FOR OUR CITY CLERK?
05:45:24PM THANK YOU.
05:45:24PM >> COUNCIL, THESE BINDERS HAVE MATERIAL THAT FOR THE MOST
05:45:32PM PART IS ALREADY IN THE RECORD.
05:45:34PM MUCH OF THIS YOU SAW AT THE LAST HEARING.
05:45:36PM SOME OF THE REPORTS HAVE BEEN UPDATED SO SI WANTED YOU TO
05:45:40PM HAVE THESE FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE.
05:45:41PM COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
05:45:45PM AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE PROPOSING A HOTEL BY MARRIOTT,
05:45:50PM WHICH IS AN UPSCALE LIFESTYLE HOTEL BRAND.
05:45:53PM THE STAKES ARE HIGH FOR ALL OF US IN THIS CASE.
05:45:56PM AND THE QUESTION I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE ASKING TONIGHT IS,
05:46:00PM ARE YOU COMFORTABLE SINGLING OUT THIS ONE PROPERTY AND NOT
05:46:04PM APPLYING THE RULES OF THE GAME THAT EXISTED FOR 35 YEARS ON
05:46:11PM HARBOUR ISLAND.
05:46:12PM THAT IS THE QUESTION THAT THIS APPLICATION BRINGS TO YOU
05:46:16PM TONIGHT.
05:46:16PM YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT
05:46:20PM TWICE, AS THE INDEPENDENT SPECIAL MASTER.
05:46:23PM WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL AS WELL.
05:46:26PM AND LIBERTY, THE APPLICANT AND LANDOWNER WILL SPEAK FOR A
05:46:31PM FEW MOMENTS FIRST.
05:46:32PM THANK YOU.
05:46:33PM >> GOOD EVENING HONORABLE COUNCILMEN AND COUNCILWOMAN
05:46:47PM HURTAK.
05:46:47PM I AM CHIEF OFFICER OF LIBERTY GROUP.
05:46:49PM LIBERTY GROUP WAS FOUND BY MY FATHER 40 YEARS AGO AND WE
05:46:55PM HAVE BEEN IN NUMBER FOR 20 YEARS.
05:46:58PM WE INVESTED IN REAL ESTATE IN TAMPA AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY
05:47:02PM INCLUDING 60 HOTELS AND SIGNIFICANT REAL ESTATE HOLDINGS ON
05:47:07PM HARBOUR ISLAND.
05:47:08PM YOU HEAR OF JACKSON AND AMERICAN SOCIAL.
05:47:10PM WE ARE PART OF THE GROUP THAT OWNS THE ENTIRE COMPLEX.
05:47:12PM MY FAMILY LIVED HERE FOR 20 YEARS AND MORE THAN HALF THAT
05:47:15PM TIME HAS BEEN ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
05:47:17PM IN THAT TIME, I REALLY ENJOYED WATCHING THE DYNAMIC GROWTH
05:47:21PM OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND HARBOUR ISLAND.
05:47:23PM I REMEMBERED WHEN I MOVED TO HARBOUR ISLAND THOSE THREE
05:47:29PM 21-FOOT TOWERS DIDN'T EXIST AND IT WAS THREE YEARS AGO.
05:47:33PM WE ARE WATCHING INCREDIBLE GROWTH FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR
05:47:36PM COMMUNITY.
05:47:37PM THESE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT WITHIN THE PAST TEN YEARS AND THE
05:47:39PM SAME ZONING OF OUR PROPERTY AND ON THE STAPLE STREET
05:47:43PM KNIGHTS RUN.
05:47:45PM OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO POSITIVELY IMPACT THE COMMUNITY.
05:47:49PM WE WORKED COLLABORATIVELY WITH STAFF FOR THE LOFT KENNEDY
05:47:58PM AND ASHLEY AND HILTON ON KENNEDY AND SEVERAL STARBUCK
05:48:03PM STORES.
05:48:03PM THOSE BUSINESS INTERESTS ALLOW US TO CONTRIBUTE
05:48:08PM SIGNIFICANTLY TO OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY AND CHARITABLE
05:48:11PM ORGANIZATIONS, IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, DONATED $3 MILLION
05:48:15PM FOR ROTARY, CRISIS CENTER, METROPOLITAN MINISTRIES, UCF, USF
05:48:21PM AND HILLSBOROUGH COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
05:48:23PM WE OWNED THIS PROPERTY SINCE 2016 AND WAITED PATIENTLY FOR
05:48:28PM DOWNTOWN TO TRANSFORM THE WAY THAT IT HAS.
05:48:30PM WE THINK THIS IS THE TIME FOR TAMPA TO SUPPORT A HOTEL OF
05:48:33PM THIS CALIBER.
05:48:34PM WE WILL INVEST AN ADDITIONAL $40 MILLION INTO THE
05:48:38PM DEVELOPMENT.
05:48:38PM THAT MONEY WILL GO TO LOCAL TRADES.
05:48:40PM LOCAL CONTRACTORS AND GENERATE MORE THAN $40 MILLION IN
05:48:45PM TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAXES AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
05:48:48PM DOLLARS EVERY MONTH, EVERY YEAR IN PROPERTY TAXES, ALL OF
05:48:51PM WHICH ARE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN WHAT IS WITH THE EXISTING
05:48:54PM BUILDING.
05:48:54PM THIS PARTICULAR HOTEL IS A VERY PERSONAL PROJECT FOR ME AND
05:48:58PM I AM CONFIDENT IT WILL RESULT IN THE SAME POSITIVE OUTCOME
05:49:01PM OF MY PRIOR PROJECTS.
05:49:02PM THE PRIORITY IS TO ENSURE THAT IT MAKES HARBOR ISLANDS A
05:49:06PM MORE DESIRABLE OF PLACE TO LIVE AND INCREASES PROPERTY
05:49:10PM VALUES FOR THE ENTIRE ISLAND.
05:49:12PM THE FIRST AC HOTEL IN MADRID AND MARRIOTT'S BOUTIQUE BRAND
05:49:18PM WITH EMPHASIS ON SUSTAINABILITY, DESIGN AND LIFESTYLE THAT
05:49:23PM COMPLEMENT SOME OF THE HOTELS, THE EPICURIAN AND HYATT AND
05:49:30PM THE LE INU MERIDIAN.
05:49:32PM AMALIE ARENA, USF HELP.
05:49:39PM DOWNTOWN TAMPA IS IN DIRE NEED OF HOTELS ROOM.
05:49:42PM ILLUSTRATED THAT AT THE MEETING IN MAY.
05:49:45PM WE ARE THE NUMBER ONE MARKET IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES FOR
05:49:48PM OCCUPANCY.
05:49:49PM SO WE DESPERATELY NEED HOTEL ROOMS.
05:49:52PM MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS HOTEL WILL CREATE 50 NEW FULL-TIME
05:49:56PM JOBS.
05:49:57PM AND THEY ARE WELL PAYING JOB.
05:49:58PM MINIMUM OF $18 TO $20.
05:50:00PM WE ASSEMBLED A TEAM OF SEASONED LOCAL EXPERTS THAT WORKED
05:50:06PM EXTENSIVELY ON HARBOUR ISLAND AND PROJECTS IT THE SO OUR
05:50:10PM HOTEL IS COHESIVE WITH ITS NATURAL SURROUNDINGS.
05:50:13PM OUR PROPOSED HOTEL HAS BEEN FOUND TWICE BY CITY STAFF TO BE
05:50:18PM COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT OPPOSED BY ANY OF
05:50:22PM THE IMMEDIATE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS IN HARBOUR ISLAND.
05:50:25PM IN FACT IT IS SUPPORTED BY EVERY BUSINESS ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
05:50:28PM AND NUMEROUS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS THROUGHOUT TAMPA IN
05:50:33PM FACT MANY NORTH AND SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND RESIDENTS HAVE SENT
05:50:37PM YOU E-MAILS OF SUPPORT.
05:50:38PM OUR INTENTION CONTINUENESS TO BE COLLABORATING WITH THE CITY
05:50:41PM TO DEVELOP THE MOST IMPACTFUL PROJECTS POSSIBLE.
05:50:44PM JUST AS WE HAVE DONE SO MANY TIMES IN THE PAST.
05:50:47PM FOR THIS HOTEL, WE REDUCED THE SCALE TWICE.
05:50:49PM REDESIGNED OUR PLANS FOUR TIMES BASED JUST ON NEIGHBORHOOD
05:50:53PM AND COUNCIL FEEDBACK.
05:50:54PM I THINK THIS DEMONSTRATES OUR COMMITMENT TO COLLABORATION.
05:50:57PM AGAIN, WITH YOUR APPROVAL TODAY, IT WILL RESULT IN THE
05:51:00PM CREATION OF 50 NEW WELL-PAYING JOBS.
05:51:03PM AN IMMEDIATE $40 MILLION INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
05:51:06PM AND MORE THAN $25 MILLION NEXT POE NEXTAL INCREASE OF
05:51:11PM PROPERTY TAX TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, PUBLIC SCHOOLS
05:51:15PM POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PARK SYSTEM.
05:51:16PM ON BEHALF OF ME, MY FAMILY AND THIS AMAZING TEAM WE HAVE
05:51:20PM ASSEMBLED, RERESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE OUR
05:51:25PM APPLICATION SO WE CAN SUPPORT YOU IN BUILDING A BETTER TAMPA
05:51:28PM THANK YOU.
05:51:28PM >> THANK YOU.
05:51:30PM JAKE CREMER, COUNCIL.
05:51:38PM WE HAVE AN APPLICANT TEAM.
05:51:40PM WE ASSEMBLED THIS TEAM BECAUSE WE HAVE EXPERIENCE WORKING ON
05:51:45PM DOWNTOWN HOTELS.
05:51:46PM OUR ARCHITECT ALSO LIVES IN HARBOUR ISLAND.
05:51:51PM A BRIEF TIMELINE SINCE STAFF DESCRIBED THE DENIAL ON MAY 12
05:51:57PM AND HOW WE GOT HERE AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
05:51:59PM WE FILED LAWSUITS AND FILED $6.6 MILLION BERT HARRIS ACT REQUEST FOR
05:52:05PM RELIEF AND IT HE MAN AND.
05:52:06PM WE PUT ALL OF THAT ON HOLD AND SPENT THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS
05:52:11PM REDESIGNING THE HOTEL, MEDIATING AND WORKING WITH STAFF
05:52:14PM BECAUSE AT THE ENDS OF THE DAY WE ARE ALL BETTER OFF IF WE
05:52:17PM CAN COME TO A RESOLUTION OF THIS.
05:52:18PM WE FEEL LIKE WE WERE NOT FAIRLY TREATED AT THE LAST CITY
05:52:22PM COUNCIL MEETING, BUT WE ARE HERE TO RESOLVE THAT.
05:52:26PM AN OVERVIEW OF -- THIS IS A PHOTO OF WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING
05:52:30PM TO YOU TODAY, 145-ROOM LIFESTYLE UPSCALE HOTEL WITH
05:52:38PM ANCILLARY SUPPORT USES AND REDESIGNED FROM THE GROUND UP AND
05:52:42PM REDUCED FROM 12 LEVELS TO 10.
05:52:45PM SIGNAGE ON-SITE AND OFF-SITE FOR PRIMARY ACTION FROM
05:52:49PM KNIGHTS RUN AND PROPOSING OFFSITE MOBILITY TO ENHANCE
05:52:54PM SAFETY AND WALKABILITY.
05:52:55PM NOW I KNOW YOU WILL HEAR FROM THE OPPOSITION BECAUSE I HAVE
05:52:58PM THAT THERE IS NOTHING NEW ABOUT THAT CONCEPT.
05:53:00PM BUT, AGAIN, THIS CHART HIGHLIGHTS THE MANY CHANGES WE MADE.
05:53:07PM WE COMPLETELY REDESIGNED THE SITE.
05:53:10PM THE FIRST TIME AFTER A COMMUNITY MEETING WE STARTED AT
05:53:14PM GROUND ZERO.
05:53:14PM REDESIGNED THE SITE.
05:53:16PM AFTER WE CAME TO SEE YOU IN MAY, WE LISTENED AND REDESIGNED
05:53:20PM THE SITE.
05:53:21PM SINCE THEN WE ADDED A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T
05:53:24PM CONSIDERED THAT WEREN'T ON THE TABLE BACK THEN IN MAY.
05:53:26PM WE ADDED BIKE AND MOTORCYCLE PARKING.
05:53:29PM ON-SITE AND OFF-SITE SIGNAGE, MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE
05:53:34PM DISCUSSED AND LIMITED PRIVATE TRUCK DELIVERY.
05:53:37PM AS STAFF MENTIONED THE PLANNING CONTEXT IS OUTSIDE OF YOU
05:53:42PM ARE IN CBD, YOU ARE IN THE MOST DENSE PLANNING CATEGORY THAT
05:53:48PM THIS CITY HAS.
05:53:48PM THE CITY HAS BEEN PLANNING FOR THIS SINCE 1989.
05:53:52PM WE ARE WITHIN THE CDB PERIPHERY.
05:53:58PM AND A MIXED USE THAT REQUIRE INTENSITY AND DENSITY BECAUSE
05:54:02PM OF OUR PROXIMITY OF TRANSIT.
05:54:05PM WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT OF THIS DRI AND HARBOUR ISLAND WAS
05:54:11PM PLANNED FROM THE BEGINNING AS AN EXTENSION OF DOWNTOWN.
05:54:14PM THERE ARE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS, HOWEVER, ON HARBOR ISLANDS.
05:54:22PM YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.
05:54:24PM THERE IS A NORTH NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS A PRY HAVEN'T MIXED
05:54:28PM USE COMMUNITY SOUTH OF THE GATES, THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD
05:54:36PM DESCRIBES ITSELF.
05:54:38PM SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DEFINES ITSELF --
5:58:26PM [ENCODER DISCONNECT]
5:58:51PM AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU IS THAT THE ONLY THING
5:58:54PM INCOMPATIBLE ON THE ISLAND AT THIS TIME IS RESTRICTING THE
5:58:58PM SITE AS THE ONE AND ONLY SITE ON THE ENTIRE ISLAND THAT IS
5:59:01PM ONLY ALLOWED TO BE BUILT ONE STORY TALL.
5:59:07PM THE ONLY STRUCTURE.
5:59:09PM THIS CANYON EFFECT THAT YOU SEE WAS NOT PLANNED.
5:59:15PM THIS IS A HISTORIC RELIC BECAUSE THE ONE-STORY BUILDING WAS
5:59:22PM THE FIRST STRUCTURE CONSTRUCTED ON THE ISLAND TO SELL THE
5:59:25PM REST OF THE LAND AND THE HOMES ON THE ISLAND.
5:59:28PM WHAT YOU SEE TO THE NORTH IS THE ISLAND BUILDING OUT AS HAS
5:59:35PM BEEN THE PLAN FOR OVER 35 YEARS.
5:59:41PM NOW, COUNCIL, YOU ALL INVEST A LOT OF MONEY IN THE CITY IN
5:59:45PM TOURIST INFRASTRUCTURE, TRANSIT INFRASTRUCTURE, SIDEWALKS,
5:59:49PM ROADS, THE WAY YOU GET THE RETURN ON THOSE INVESTMENTS IS BY
5:59:55PM GROWING THE CITY.
5:59:58PM THIS HOTEL IS CLOSER TO THE CONVENTION CENTER, IT'S CLOSER
6:00:01PM TO AMALIE, THAN MANY OF THE EXISTING HOTELS IN DOWNTOWN.
6:00:07PM THIS IS AS WALKABLE AS IT GETS.
6:00:09PM IF WE WANT TO GROW AS A CITY, AND WE TRULY WANT WALKABLE
6:00:14PM TOURIST INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR GUESTS, FOR OUR RESIDENTS,
6:00:20PM THIS IS THE WAY WE DO IT.
6:00:28PM NOW, IN LAND USE, EVERYTHING IS A GIVE AND TAKE.
6:00:29PM WE AGREED WITH STAFF IN DISCUSSION AFTER HEARING YOUR
6:00:32PM COMMENT AND PUBLIC COMMENTS TO DECREASE THE HEIGHT OF THIS
6:00:36PM BUILDING FROM 12 LEVELS TO 10.
6:00:39PM THE GIVE AND TAKE THERE IS THAT WE NEED A PARKING WAIVER
6:00:42PM JUSTIFICATION.
6:00:43PM WE NEED A PARKING WAIVER TO GET THERE.
6:00:45PM WE PROVIDED 116 SPACES, WHICH EQUATES TO A WAIVER OF 24.2%
6:00:56PM WHICH IS IN THE RANGE OF OTHER HOTEL WAIVERS THAT YOU HAVE
6:00:59PM APPROVED RECENTLY IN THE PAST OF 18 AND 21%.
6:01:03PM THE CITY CODE PARKING STANDARDS THAT WE ARE HELD TO ON
6:01:07PM HARBOUR ISLAND WERE DEVELOPED 32 YEARS AGO, AND THEY REQUIRE
6:01:10PM US TO PROVIDE ONE SPACE PER ROOM.
6:01:13PM COUNCIL, I KNOW YOU REMEMBER JUST RECENTLY YOU UPDATED YOUR
6:01:17PM DOWNTOWN PARKING STANDARDS.
6:01:19PM DOWNTOWN IS 1200 FEET AWAY FROM OUR SITE.
6:01:22PM AND YOUR NEW STANDARDS REQUIRE ONE SPACE -- EXCUSE ME, ONE
6:01:27PM SPACE PER EIGHT ROOMS.
6:01:29PM SO WE ARE BEING HELD TO THIS ANTIQUATED THREE DECADE OLD
6:01:33PM STANDARD, AND BEING PENALIZED BECAUSE WE ARE SIMPLY 1200
6:01:37PM FEET AWAY FROM THAT ARBITRARY BOUNDARY LINE.
6:01:39PM IF WE WERE IN DOWNTOWN, THIS HOTEL WOULD BE OVER PARKED BY
6:01:44PM 100 SPACES.
6:01:53PM LET ME GIVE YOU EXAMPLES OF THIS SCALE.
6:01:55PM IF ANY OF THE HOTELS, JW, HYATT, ADDITION, IF ANY OF THEM
6:02:02PM WERE TO BE BUILT ON HARBOUR ISLAND RATHER THAN IN DOWNTOWN,
6:02:05PM THIS IS THE TYPE OF WAIVER THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE
6:02:08PM REQUESTED.
6:02:09PM 81.6%.
6:02:11PM 40.2%%.
6:02:13PM 72.5%.
6:02:15PM THESE STANDARDS ARE NOT WHAT THE MARKET IS DRIVING TO.
6:02:24PM IT'S NOT EVEN WHERE YOUR REGULATORY STANDARDS ARE HEADED.
6:02:28PM NOW, WE HAVE PROPOSED SOME MULTIMODAL IMPROVEMENTS.
6:02:33PM WE HAVE PROVIDED LANGUAGE TO STAFF AND CITY ATTORNEY'S
6:02:40PM OFFICE ABOUT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, AND MY UNDERSTANDING WE
6:02:43PM DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS.
6:02:44PM THAT LANGUAGE IS INCLUDED, I BELIEVE, IN THE BACK OF YOUR
6:02:46PM BINDER.
6:02:46PM ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THAT THE CITY RECENTLY
6:02:49PM DID A STUDY OF THE HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD CORRIDOR.
6:02:54PM THERE WERE A NUMBER OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED.
6:02:56PM THEY WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE STUDY.
6:02:58PM UNFORTUNATELY, THEY ARE AMONG THE MANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE
6:03:01PM CITY DOES NOT -- THAT ARE NOT FUNDED.
6:03:06PM WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IF THIS IS APPROVED IS THAT WE WOULD
6:03:09PM UNDERTAKE ON OUR OWN UP TO A CAP SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
6:03:13PM AND THOSE ARE ENHANCED PAVING MARKERS, BASICALLY RESTRIPING
6:03:17PM THE INTERSECTION, AND, IF APPROVED BY MOBILITY, IF THERE'S
6:03:21PM ENOUGH RIGHT-OF-WAY, TO CREATE THE BIKE LANES GOING NORTH.
6:03:27PM YOU CAN SEE THOSE IN GREEN ON THIS GRAPHIC.
6:03:32PM THE BLUE ON THE GRAPHIC ARE WAYFINDING SIGNS.
6:03:35PM YOU WILL SEE WE HAVE ONE.
6:03:36PM THESE ARE NOT BRANDED.
6:03:37PM THESE ARE WAYFINDING ONLY TO INSTRUCT MOTORISTS AND GUESTS
6:03:41PM TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE ENTRANCE TO THE HOTEL
6:03:44PM IS ON KNIGHTS RUN. THERE WOULD BE TWO OFF-SITE AND FOUR
6:03:48PM ON-SITE.
6:03:49PM WE ALSO CONFIRMED WITH STAFF THAT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION
6:03:53PM PROCESS WE WOULD BE ABLE TO READDRESS THIS SITE TO HAVE A
6:03:56PM KNIGHT'S RUN ADDRESS FOR GPS PURPOSES.
6:04:00PM WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MR. RANDY COEN SPEAK FOR A
6:04:04PM MINUTE.
6:04:05PM >>RANDY COEN: GOOD EVENING.
6:04:06PM RANDY COEN.
6:04:08PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
6:04:10PM 4121 WEST CYPRESS STREET.
6:04:12PM I WANTED TO TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GATE OPERATION AND
6:04:15PM WHAT HAPPENS THERE.
6:04:16PM THIS DRI WAS ACTUALLY DONE BY MY MENTOR, AND I TOOK OVER THE
6:04:20PM DRI IN THE EARLY TO MID 1990s.
6:04:23PM I HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THE DRI WORK TECHNICALLY,
6:04:27PM ALL OF THE TRANSPORTATION WORK ON LARGE-SCALE ISSUES ON THE
6:04:30PM ISLAND SINCE THEN.
6:04:31PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS FACED WITH EARLY ON BY THE
6:04:34PM DEVELOPER WAS CHANGING THIS PROJECT SO THAT SOUTH PORTION OF
6:04:38PM THE ISLAND BECAME RESIDENTIAL AS OPPOSED TO OFFICE.
6:04:42PM THIS WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED FOR MILLIONS OF SQUARE FEET OF
6:04:45PM OFFICE AND HOTEL.
6:04:47PM IN LOOKING AT THAT, AND EVALUATING WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH
6:04:51PM RESIDENTIAL SOUTH, IF YOU WILL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME
6:04:54PM BACK IS WE NEEDED TO MOVE THE GATES, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT
6:04:57PM WE DID.
6:04:58PM IF YOU LOOK AGAIN YOU CAN SEE UP NEAR THE INTERSECTION WHERE
6:05:02PM THE GATES USED TO BE.
6:05:03PM THEY ARE NOW MOVED TO THE SOUTH BOTH THE WEST GATE AND EAST
6:05:09PM GATE TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS AN ADDED DISTANCE FOR QUEUING OF
6:05:13PM RESIDENTS COMING IN AND COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY GOING ON.
6:05:16PM IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
6:05:19PM THERE HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GATE, AND I WANT TO
6:05:22PM MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS EXACTLY WHAT WE DID WHEN WE
6:05:25PM MOVED THIS GATE BACK.
6:05:27PM LONG AGO, WE HAD ALL SORTS OF TIE-UPS AT THE INTERSECTION OF
6:05:31PM HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD AND KNIGHT'S RUN.
6:05:33PM WE MOVED THE GATES BACK.
6:05:35PM IF YOU WILL SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT, THAT IS AN AUTOMATED GATE
6:05:39PM FOR RESIDENTS OF THE ISLAND TO DRIVE THROUGH, AN AUTOMATED
6:05:43PM PROCESS.
6:05:43PM THE CENTER LANE IS FOR FOLKS THAT DON'T HAVE AUTOMATED
6:05:46PM CREDENTIALS TO GET ON THE ISLAND FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH A
6:05:50PM SECURITY CHECK.
6:05:51PM SOUTHBOUND THERE IS ONE LANE COMING OUT AND IT IMMEDIATELY
6:05:54PM COMES INTO TWO LANES ALONG HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD GOING
6:05:57PM BACK TO THE NORTH.
6:05:58PM SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE GATE COMPARED TO WHAT
6:06:03PM WE USED TO HAVE IN THE EARLY 1990s BEFORE WE MOVED IT BACK
6:06:06PM AND CHANGED IT.
6:06:09PM THANK YOU.
6:06:09PM >> JAKE CREMER AGAIN. I WANT TO REMIND YOU, YOU SAW THESE
6:06:14PM BACK IN MAY.
6:06:15PM I WANT TO REMIND YOU THE CONCEPT WE ARE PROPOSING.
6:06:17PM THESE ARE GRAPHICS FROM OTHER AC HOTELS.
6:06:20PM AC IS A BRAND THAT ENCOURAGES DIFFERENCES AMONG ITS
6:06:25PM LOCATIONS TO FIT IN WITH THE COMMUNITY.
6:06:31PM NOW, THIS GRAPHIC IS LOOKING SOUTHWEST TOWARD THE PORT.
6:06:34PM THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL.
6:06:37PM THIS IS WHAT WE ORIGINALLY FILED.
6:06:42PM THIS IS WHAT WE CAME TO YOU IN MAY WITH, AND THIS IS WHAT WE
6:06:49PM ARE PROPOSING TODAY.
6:06:50PM WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS THAT WE ARE TAKING A STEP DOWN
6:06:54PM APPROACH FROM THE 12 LEVELS THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO
6:06:57PM OUR NORTH, OUR 10 LEVELS TO THE EIGHT LEVEL STRUCTURES THAT
6:07:02PM ARE WITHIN THE GATES.
6:07:03PM AGAIN, THIS IS NORTHEAST LOOKING TOWARD DOWNTOWN.
6:07:11PM THIS IS OUR ORIGINAL DESIGN.
6:07:13PM THIS IS THE DESIGN THAT CAME BEFORE YOU IN MAY.
6:07:16PM AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE HERE WITH YOU, HERE BEFORE YOU
6:07:19PM TODAY.
6:07:20PM AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE QUITE A BIT SHORTER THAN A 12-STORY
6:07:24PM BUILDING THAT WE ARE ADJACENT TO.
6:07:26PM AND THIS IS NORTHWEST LOOKING TOWARDS TAMPA GENERAL.
6:07:28PM THIS HELPS YOU RELATE VISUALIZE, I THINK, THE SCALE AND
6:07:32PM MASSING OF THIS HOTEL COMPARED TO THE EIGHT-LEVEL STRUCTURES
6:07:36PM THAT ARE WITHIN THE GATES.
6:07:41PM AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BULK OF OUR BUILDING IS ACTUALLY LESS
6:07:44PM THAN THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEHIND THE GATES.
6:07:46PM AND AGAIN WE HAVE THAT STEP-DOWN FROM 12 TO 10 TO 8.
6:07:56PM COUNCIL, WITH THAT WE HAVE WORKED HARD TO ADDRESS THE
6:07:59PM CONCERNS YOU HAD IN MAY.
6:08:00PM THAT'S WHAT WE SPENT THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS DOING.
6:08:02PM WE THREW OUT OUR PLANS.
6:08:05PM WE COMPLETELY REDESIGNED THE BUILDING AND HAVE BEEN WORKING
6:08:07PM WITH YOUR STAFF.
6:08:08PM SINCE THAT TIME, WE PROVIDED A TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE OF GOOD
6:08:12PM PLANNING, AND THAT WE HAVE THIS STEP-DOWN OF DENSITY AND
6:08:16PM INTENSITY FROM 12 LEVELS TO 10 TO 8.
6:08:21PM WE PROPOSED A HOTEL THAT IS PROPOSED ON ANY OTHER PROPERTY
6:08:25PM ON THE ISLAND.
6:08:25PM WE WOULD NOT NEED TO COME BEFORE YOU TO ASK FOR REZONING
6:08:29PM APPROVAL.
6:08:30PM AND IT WILL NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT AS YOU HEARD FROM OUR
6:08:34PM TRANSPORTATION EXPERT ON THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD GATES.
06:08:38PM BECAUSE -- BECAUSE THOSE HAD BEEN PLANNED.
06:08:41PM THIS HAS BEEN PLANNED FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND THE GATES WERE
06:08:44PM ACTUALLY MOVED GO THROUGH THIS TYPE OF SCENARIO.
06:08:51PM THE STAFF AND SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HAVE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
06:08:54PM WITH THAT WE WILL ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
06:08:56PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I WOULD LIKE TO RESERVE ANY I
06:09:00PM HAVE LEFT FOR REBUTTAL.
06:09:01PM THANK YOU.
06:09:02PM AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
06:09:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
06:09:07PM THANK YOU.
06:09:08PM >> THANK YOU.
06:09:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AT THIS TIME, WE WILL
06:09:17PM BE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT.
06:09:21PM BEFORE EVERYONE JUMPS UP QUICKLY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WHEN
06:09:29PM YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, I ASK YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME
06:09:33PM FOR THE RECORD.
06:09:35PM TELL US WHETHER YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN OR NOT.
06:09:37PM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE A LOT OF
06:09:41PM PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT.
06:09:42PM AND WE WANT TO HEAR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY.
06:09:45PM [LAUGHTER]
06:09:48PM BUT PLEASE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BE MINDFUL OF THE PERSON
06:09:52PM WHO SPOKE BEFORE YOU.
06:09:55PM IF WE CAN CUT DOWN THE REDUNDANCY AND NOT REPEAT WHAT THE
06:10:00PM PERSON IN FRONT OF YOU SAID.
06:10:02PM WE WILL ALL BE HAPPIER.
06:10:05PM ANYONE WANTING TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, IF WE COULD START A
06:10:11PM LINE ON MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT.
06:10:18PM AND, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
06:10:22PM COOPERATION.
06:10:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SIR, PLEASE PROCEED.
06:11:01PM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
06:11:05PM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY MY NAME
06:11:10PM IS DAVE SMOKER.
06:11:11PM I AM WITH THE SMOKER MATTHEWS LAW FIRM.
06:11:13PM ADDRESS IS 100 SOUTH ASHLEY DRIVE, SUITE 1490, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
06:11:18PM 33602.
06:11:20PM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
06:11:24PM AND WE ARE HERE IN STRENUOUS OBJECTION TO APPROVAL OF THIS
06:11:29PM PARTICULAR SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL AND ANY -- ANY ZONING
06:11:33PM APPLICATIONS, NOTICE OF PROPOSED CHANGE AND PARKING WAIVER
06:11:37PM THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED.
06:11:38PM THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS APPROXIMATELY 800
06:11:42PM INDIVIDUALS WHO OWN HOMES WITHIN THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD
06:11:46PM ASSOCIATION AREA.
06:11:47PM AND AS A POINT OF ORDER, WE HAVE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY 25
06:11:53PM MINUTES' WORTH OF WAIVERS OF TIME FROM OTHER INDIVIDUALS.
06:11:56PM WE WOULD REQUEST THE ABILITY TO SPEAK FOR 25 MINUTES, IF
06:12:00PM POSSIBLE.
06:12:01PM AND WE WOULD --
06:12:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY -- I DO APOLOGIZE.
06:12:06PM WILL YOU LOOK AT THE WAIVERS AND ASK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT
06:12:10PM HAVE SIGNED THIS -- THESE WAIVERS, ASK THEM -- WHEN YOU CALL
06:12:14PM OUT THE NAME FOR THEM TO RAISE THEIR HANDS TO GET AN
06:12:18PM ADDITIONAL ONE MINUTE PER PERSON; HOWEVER, WE HOPE THAT YOU
06:12:22PM DO NOT NEED TO TAKE THE FULL TIME.
06:12:24PM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, WE TIMED IT SEVERAL TIMES AND WE THINK WE
06:12:29PM CAN GET IT IN TO 20.
06:12:30PM WE WILL DO OUR BEST.
06:12:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE LET COUNSEL READ OUT THE NAMES TO
06:12:36PM MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN CHAMBERS.
06:12:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
06:12:39PM I WAS JUST ABOUT TO STEP OUT AND I -- VERY BRIEFLY.
06:12:43PM I MISSED THE BEGINNING OF THE DISCUSSION.
06:12:46PM MR. SMOKER, YOU HAVE -- I HAVE THREE SHEETS PROVIDED TO ME
06:12:50PM BY MISS MANDEL.
06:12:51PM YOUR SHEET HAS FIVE NAMES ON IT.
06:12:53PM A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF BILL OLIVER HAVE SIX NAMES ON
06:12:57PM THAT.
06:12:58PM AND A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF TIM POWELL HAS SEVEN NAMES.
06:13:02PM I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR HOW IT IS WITH THE SPEAKER WAIVER
06:13:06PM FORMS THAT YOU WISH TO PROCEED.
06:13:11PM YOU WANT THEM COMBINED OR IN AND OF ITSELF.
06:13:15PM >> I THINK IT IS BEST TO COMBINE BECAUSE I CAN GET THROUGH
06:13:18PM MINE QUICKER.
06:13:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION IS DOES MR. OLIVER AND MR.
06:13:25PM POWELL WILL SPEAK AND WILL BE TIMED AGAINST YOUR TOTAL?
06:13:29PM I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, FORGIVE ME.
06:13:31PM >> TO THE EXTENT I DON'T USE MY TOTAL TIME, I AM YIELDING IT
06:13:35PM TO EITHER OR BOTH OF THEM DEPENDING.
06:13:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD -- I WOULD PREFER THAT ALL THREE DO
06:13:43PM SEPARATE TIMING.
06:13:44PM WE DON'T -- WE DON'T HAVE TIME CLOCKS HERE.
06:13:47PM I WOULD PREFER TO KEEP THIS EASY FOR EVERYONE.
06:13:50PM PLEASE AND THANK YOU.
06:13:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE I AM PRESENTED
06:13:55PM WITH THREE DIFFERENT SHEETS WITH THREE DIFFERENT NAMES.
06:13:57PM I WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PROCESS AND THE
06:14:03PM RECORD HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED.
06:14:05PM AND CERTAINLY, I DON'T -- I DON'T KNOW WHERE MR. CREMER IS
06:14:12PM IN THIS ROOM.
06:14:13PM OH, RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.
06:14:15PM >> I HAVE COMMENTS, BUT I WILL LET THEM SPEAK.
06:14:18PM >> FOR THE RECORD, JULIA MANDEL, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
06:14:23PM I WANT TO FROM A PROCEDURAL PERSPECTIVE WHAT THE INTENT IS
06:14:28PM AND UP TO THE COUNCIL HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED
06:14:31PM FORWARD.
06:14:31PM THERE ARE THREE PRINCIPALS ON THE PRESENTATION FROM AN
06:14:35PM EXPERT PERSPECTIVE.
06:14:37PM SO THE OPTIONS ARE, WE CAN CONSOLIDATE ALL THAT TIME OR
06:14:41PM DIVIDE IT UP OF THE THREE.
06:14:43PM THAT IS WHY IT HAS THREE DIFFERENT NAMES.
06:14:45PM WHATEVER IS EASIER.
06:14:47PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CONSOLIDATE THAT INTO ONE
06:14:50PM PRESENTATION WHICH WILL LEAD UP TO 25 MINUTES OR EACH ONE
06:14:53PM TAKES THEIR TIME.
06:14:54PM NO MATTER TO US, BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT EASY FOR YOU.
06:14:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT WILL BE EASY IF THIS GENTLEMAN TOOK ALL
06:15:00PM THE NAMES, AND HE IS THE ONLY SPOKESPERSON.
06:15:02PM HE IS THE ONLY ONE SPEAKING.
06:15:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT.
06:15:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOT FOR EVERYBODY, FOR THE NAMES ON THIS
06:15:10PM LIST.
06:15:11PM >> THE PROBLEM IS, THAT IS LIMITED ONLY TO TEN MINUTES.
06:15:14PM YOU KNOW WHAT, WHY DON'T WE DO IT THE NORMAL WAY.
06:15:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BREAK IT DOWN INTO THREE.
06:15:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEN WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS DO IT THE
06:15:23PM WAY IT IS SET FORTH ON EACH SHEET.
06:15:25PM AND MR. SMOKER, YOU HAVE FIVE NAMES, PLUS YOU HAVE THREE
06:15:29PM MINUTES.
06:15:29PM THAT WOULD GIVE YOU A TOTAL OF EIGHT MINUTES.
06:15:32PM DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, SIR?
06:15:34PM >> YES, SIR.
06:15:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEN -- THEN IF YOU ARE PRESENT -- NOW
06:15:39PM SUPPOSEDLY -- HOPEFULLY ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE ON THE FIRST
06:15:43PM FLOOR -- ON THE THIRD FLOOR, SORRY.
06:15:45PM BARB SMITH.
06:15:47PM THANK YOU.
06:15:48PM MATT BORFIELD.
06:15:52PM THANK YOU.
06:15:52PM THERE IS BARB SMITH AND BOB SMITH.
06:15:57PM WHO -- THANK YOU.
06:15:58PM ELDRIS SOLOMON.
06:16:01PM THANK YOU.
06:16:02PM AND DR. AL BROAD.
06:16:04PM THANK YOU.
06:16:04PM FIVE, PLUS THREE IS EIGHT MINUTES.
06:16:07PM MR. SMOKER.
06:16:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CREMER, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
06:16:15PM >> I DON'T OBJECT TO THE PROPOSED PROCEDURE EXCEPT THAT THEY
06:16:20PM HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS WHO REPRESENT THE SAME ASSOCIATION,
06:16:22PM AND I WOULD OBJECT IF COLLECTIVELY THEY HAVE MORE THAN 25
06:16:26PM MINUTES THAN WE DID FOR OUR INITIAL PRESENTATION.
06:16:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL A LOT PEOPLE TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
06:16:32PM PLEASE PROCEED, SIR.
06:16:38PM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:16:40PM DAVE SMOKER, SMOKER, MATTHEWS LAW FIRM.
06:16:43PM ON BEHALF OF THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
06:16:45PM AS I SAID, WE STRENUOUSLY OPPOSE THE CHANGES THAT ARE
06:16:56PM PROPOSED BEFORE YOU TODAY.
06:16:57PM REALLY THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THAT THE CHANGES THAT THEY
06:17:01PM HAVE MADE ARE NOT MATERIAL TO THE ULTIMATE ISSUES OF
06:17:07PM INCOMPATIBILITY THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY FOUND.
06:17:10PM IN OTHER WORDS, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, A HOTEL OF TEN STORIES IS
06:17:14PM JUST AS OBJECTIONABLE FROM A COMPATIBLY THAN TO THE REST
06:17:20PM DENTS OF THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS WAS A
06:17:22PM 12-STORY.
06:17:23PM AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PRUNE AROUND THE EDGES BUT IN THE
06:17:27PM FINAL ANALYSIS, THIS IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE USE AT THIS
06:17:31PM PARTICULAR LOCATION.
06:17:32PM THE EXISTING BUILDING IS ONE STORY.
06:17:35PM WE ARE TALKING OF TEN STORIES NOW.
06:17:37PM THAT IS A FACTOR OF TEN JUST IN TERMS OF THE HEIGHT, NOT TO
06:17:41PM MENTION THE BULK.
06:17:42PM NOT TO MENTION THE SETBACK ISSUES.
06:17:44PM NOT TO MENTION THE SCALE.
06:17:46PM I MEAN, ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT RELATE TO COMPATIBILITY AS
06:17:51PM OUR EXPERTS WILL TESTIFY HAVE NOT MATERIALLY CHANGED ONE
06:17:55PM IOTA FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DENIED BY THIS BOARD.
06:17:58PM NOW WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT THE TESTIMONY OF MR. TIM POWELL.
06:18:01PM HE IS AN EXPERT LAND USE PLANNER AND HE WILL TESTIFY TO THE
06:18:06PM GROSS INCOMPATIBILITY OF THIS PARTICULAR HOTEL USE AT THIS
06:18:09PM PARTICULAR LOCATION.
06:18:10PM WE WILL ALSO PRESENT THE TESTIMONY OF MR. WILLIAM OLIVER, A
06:18:15PM WELL RECOGNIZED TRAFFIC EXPERT AND HE WILL BE TESTIFYING TO
06:18:18PM THE IS RADICALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC THAT WAS
06:18:27PM PREVIOUSLY GENERATED BY THE EXISTING ALLOWABLE ENTITLEMENTS
06:18:32PM FOR OFFICE AND BANK TYPE USE.
06:18:34PM NOT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT TO SAY THAT YOU ARE RESTRICTING
06:18:39PM THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY TO ONE STORY.
06:18:41PM THAT IS SIMPLY NOT FACTUALLY ACCURATE.
06:18:44PM THE EXISTING LAND USE APPROVALS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL
06:18:48PM ALLOW FOR A WIDE ARRAY OF -- OF USES.
06:18:51PM THE KEY POINT HERE IS THAT THE ORIGINAL MIXED USE
06:18:56PM ENTITLEMENT FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, AND I DEALT WITH
06:19:00PM THESE MANY TIMES BEFORE ARE USES THAT CONTEMPLATE INDIVIDUAL
06:19:06PM SITE PLAN REZONINGS OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS TO FLESH OUT THE
06:19:11PM ISSUES OF COMPATIBILITY.
06:19:12PM IN OTHER WORDS, OVER -- YOU CAN'T GO BACK 35 YEARS AND SAY,
06:19:16PM OH, WELL, WE HAVE INTENSE MIXED USE ENTITLEMENTS.
06:19:21PM THEREFORE WE SHOULD GET THEM TODAY.
06:19:23PM THE AREA HAS EVOLVED.
06:19:25PM THERE ARE DISCREET NEIGHBORHOODS.
06:19:27PM THERE ARE ISSUES OF COMPATIBILITY THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED
06:19:30PM ON A SITE SPECIFIC BASIS.
06:19:32PM YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM HERE IS THAT THE
06:19:39PM LIBERTY FILED A $6.6 MILLION BERT HARRIS CLAIM.
06:19:45PM AND I THINK THEY FILED IS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO
06:19:48PM LEVERAGE THE SITUATION.
06:19:50PM I NORMALLY REPRESENT DEVELOPERS.
06:19:52PM I FILED MY SHARE OF THESE.
06:19:53PM I KNOW HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED.
06:19:55PM AND THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS, YOU SHOULDN'T BE CONCERNED
06:19:59PM ABOUT THAT, IN MY OPINION.
06:20:00PM I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE BERT HARRIS CLAIM AND I
06:20:05PM DON'T BELIEVE IT IS MERITORIOUS.
06:20:09PM I DON'T THINK THEY CAN SHOW THE BASIC EVIDENCE OF THE BERT
06:20:14PM HARRIS CLAIM AND THAT THE USE OF THE PROPERTY IS
06:20:16PM INORDINATELY BURDENED BY REFUSAL FOR A HOTEL.
06:20:20PM SECOND, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY USABLE FOR OFFICE
06:20:25PM PURPOSES.
06:20:25PM THE HOTEL USE IS REALLY SPECULATIVE.
06:20:28PM YOU ALREADY DENIED IT ONCE.
06:20:30PM AND THE PRACTICAL REALITY IS THAT THERE WAS NO -- NO PRIOR
06:20:33PM APPROVAL OF A HOTEL ON THIS SITE.
06:20:35PM THERE WAS AN APPROVAL OF A -- OF A -- OF A SALE CENTER AND A
06:20:42PM BANK BUILDING.
06:20:42PM IF YOU HAVE AN EXPECTATION AS FAR AS WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH
06:20:45PM THE PROPERTY, THE EXPECTATION IS WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT IF
06:20:49PM YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY WHICH WAS OFFICE USE.
06:20:51PM NOW I THINK IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS, WE DON'T THINK THAT THEY
06:20:58PM CAN PROVE UP A BERT HARRIS CLAIM.
06:21:01PM THIS $6.6 MILLION ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS EXACTLY THAT, AN
06:21:06PM ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM BUT DOESN'T ARE HAVE ANY TEETH IN OUR
06:21:09PM OPINION.
06:21:09PM NOW THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WANTS TO YOU KNOW
06:21:13PM THAT WE THINK THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS GROSSLY INCOMPATIBLE
06:21:17PM WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO THE SOUTH.
06:21:19PM AND WE WILL STAND BEHIND OUR POSITION AND WE WILL STAND
06:21:23PM SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH THIS COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL
06:21:27PM TO PROTECT THE LAND USE INTEGRITY OF THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
06:21:30PM SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MR. TIM POWELL COME UP
06:21:35PM AND TESTIFY.
06:21:36PM HE WILL TALK ABOUT THE LAND USE PLANNING PROBLEMS WITH THIS
06:21:39PM PROPOSAL.
06:21:40PM THEREAFTER, WE WILL HAVE MR. WILLIAM OLIVER STEP UP.
06:21:45PM AND IF I AM LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL TIME, I WILL
06:21:49PM COME UP FOR CLOSING STATEMENTS.
06:21:51PM OTHERWISE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
06:21:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE SHEET WITH SIX NAMES AND MR. POWELL HAS
06:22:14PM HIS OWN SHEET WITH SEVEN NAMES.
06:22:16PM I HAVE ADDED UP THE EIGHT MINUTES FROM MR. SMOKER, NINE
06:22:19PM MINUTES FROM MR. OLIVER AND TEN MINUTES FROM MR. POWELL THAT
06:22:24PM TOTALS 27 MINUTES.
06:22:25PM MR. SMOKER I BELIEVE HAD THREE MINUTES REMAINING, BUT
06:22:28PM NORMALLY WE DON'T WAIVE TIME -- EXCUSE ME SUCCEED TIME TO
06:22:33PM THE ANOTHER SPEAKER IF WE HAVE REMAINING MINUTES.
06:22:36PM WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, GENTLEMEN, YOU HAVE TWO SPEAKER
06:22:41PM WAIVER FORMS IN FRONT OF ME AND THE QUESTION IS WHO WISHES
06:22:43PM TO SPEAK FIRST.
06:22:44PM I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE EVER COMBINED SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS.
06:22:49PM >> NOW I AM MR. POWELL.
06:22:50PM AND --
06:22:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT?
06:22:54PM >> YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF TSP
06:22:58PM COMPANIES, DAVID WRIGHT SHARE PART OF MY TIME.
06:23:00PM I THINK I HAVE TEN MINUTES.
06:23:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, SIR.
06:23:05PM THE TWO OF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK UNDER YOUR SPEAKER WAIVER
06:23:08PM FORM.
06:23:08PM >> WHICH I AM TOLD IS TEN MINUTES BUT I CAN PRETTY MUCH TELL
06:23:14PM YOU IT WILL NOT BE TEN MINUTES.
06:23:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND YOU ARE MR. POWELL?
06:23:18PM >> YES.
06:23:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. POWELL, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, IF YOU WERE
06:23:21PM PRESENT SAY SOMETHING, I CAN'T SEE YOU WITH THIS BOARD IN
06:23:24PM FRONT OF ME.
06:23:25PM BETH ROTHBART.
06:23:27PM >> HERE.
06:23:28PM >> BRENT ANDERSON.
06:23:30PM PETER KELLY.
06:23:31PM TREVOR BISWAS.
06:23:33PM >> HERE.
06:23:35PM >> ESTENOV.
06:23:37PM SOMEBODY ON 328 IS THE STREET ADDRESS --
06:23:42PM >> THAT IS ME.
06:23:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: RAISE YOUR HANDS.
06:23:44PM >> ELEANOR.
06:23:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS WHAT IT SAYS.
06:23:47PM [LAUGHTER]
06:23:48PM JOLENE FARQUANT CLOSE ENOUGH, I HOPE YOU FORGIVE ME AND
06:23:57PM MICHELLE BAUER.
06:23:58PM THANK YOU, SEVEN NAMES AT ONE MINUTE A PIECE WITH ONE MINUTE
06:24:03PM FOR THE SPEAKER AND TEN MINUTES TOTAL.
06:24:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EVERYBODY IN THE LINE YOU DON'T MIND IF
06:24:10PM THESE GENTLEMAN GO BEFORE YOU.
06:24:12PM >> COUNCIL, I DO HAVE A COMMENT.
06:24:15PM I NEED SOME CLARITY WHETHER MR. SMOKER WILL GET THREE
06:24:19PM ADDITIONAL MINUTES AFTER ALL OF THESE FOLKS SPEAK.
06:24:22PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS NOT HOW WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.
06:24:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT -- AND WITH A
06:24:30PM SPEAKER WAIVER FORM, WE DON'T HAVE SPEAKERS GIVE TIME --
06:24:36PM REMAINING TIME NECESSARILY TO THE NEXT SPEAKER.
06:24:38PM MR. IS MR. SMOKER.
06:24:40PM >> I AM RIGHT HERE, SIR.
06:24:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT.
06:24:43PM DID YOU COMPLETE YOUR PRESENTATION?
06:24:45PM >> WELL, YOU KNOW, LAWYERS NEVER REALLY COMPLETE THEIR
06:24:48PM PRESENTATION, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT I AM GOOD WITH NOT
06:24:50PM COMING BACK UP HERE UNLESS THERE IS SOME NEW MATTER THAT IS
06:24:54PM RAISED THAT IS TOTALLY OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS.
06:24:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST SO YOU KNOW.
06:24:58PM ACCORDING TO MY QUICK LOOK, YOU HAD THREE MINUTES SOME ODD
06:25:02PM SECONDS.
06:25:02PM WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS -- AT THIS POINT IN TIME, YOU ARE
06:25:05PM COMPLETING YOUR PRESENTATION, IS THAT CORRECT?
06:25:07PM >> YES, SIR.
06:25:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
06:25:09PM >> MR. CHAIR, ONE MORE COMMENT.
06:25:11PM I FEEL LIKE WE ARE GETTING A LITTLE FAR AFIELD OF COUNCIL'S
06:25:15PM PROCEDURES OF ALLOWING TWO PEOPLE TO PRESENT --
06:25:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN --
06:25:24PM >> MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOUR PROCEDURES ALLOW PEOPLE TO
06:25:27PM WAIVE TIME A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL AND PEOPLE HAVE WAIVED TIME
06:25:29PM FOR MR. POWELL.
06:25:30PM NOT FOR TWO PEOPLE.
06:25:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE OBJECTING THEN TO THE TWO OF THEM
06:25:35PM SPEAKING TOGETHER?
06:25:37PM >> YES, I AM.
06:25:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE A WAY WE CAN RESOLVE THIS?
06:25:42PM >> I SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ALSO.
06:25:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WOULD GET THREE MINUTES.
06:25:48PM >> I SIGNED UP TO SPEAK SEPARATELY.
06:25:50PM I ONLY -- I ONLY NEED THREE MINUTES.
06:25:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN OTHER WORDS, BY YOU SPEAKING NOW, YOU
06:25:57PM WILL BE GIVING UP THOSE THREE MINUTES?
06:25:59PM >> YES.
06:26:00PM >> THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
06:26:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
06:26:06PM >> ARE WE GOOD TO GO.
06:26:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CERTAINLY.
06:26:10PM >> OKAY.
06:26:11PM FOR THE RECORD.
06:26:12PM MY NAME IS TIMOTHY H. POWELL, POST OFFICE BOX 2173, TAMPA,
06:26:22PM MR., 33608.
06:26:24PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
06:26:25PM THE THREE BEFORE AND AFTER PORTRAYAL OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY
06:26:29PM THAT YOU SEE ON THE EASELS AND THEIR IMMEDIATE VICINITY
06:26:34PM FAIRLY AND ACCURATELY DEPICT THE EXISTING GROUND LEVEL
06:26:37PM CONDITIONS BOTH WITHOUT THE PROPOSED HOTEL AND WITH THE
06:26:40PM PROPOSED HOTEL ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT SUBMITTED PLAN.
06:26:46PM USE OF PLANNING AND LAND USE CRITERIA THAT THIS REZONING TO
06:26:53PM COMPLY WITH AS WELL AS MY CV WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL
06:26:57PM PRIOR TO MY HEARING SUMMARIZING MY FINDINGS WITH THESE THREE
06:27:03PM PLANNING ISSUES.
06:27:04PM FIRST HARBOUR ISLAND'S PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
06:27:07PM HARBOUR ISLAND CONSISTENCY OF TWO EXISTING DISTINCTLY
06:27:13PM DIFFERENT PHYSICALLY DEFINED LAND USE COMMUNITIES OR
06:27:16PM DISTRICTS BOTH UNDER THE SAME COMP PLAN DESIGNATION
06:27:20PM OF RMU-100.
06:27:21PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS FAILED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE
06:27:25PM VALIDITY OF THE SOUTHERN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT BY JUSTIFYING
06:27:30PM THEIR FINDS OF CONSISTENT AS THE COMP PLAN STATED IN THE MAY
06:27:33PM 12, 2022 PUBLIC HEARING AND I AM QUOTING FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
06:27:38PM FROM THAT HEARING.
06:27:39PM THE WHOLE -- THEY SAID THE WHOLE ISLAND IS PLANNED FOR HIGH
06:27:43PM INTENSITY MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
06:27:44PM I GO ON WITH THEIR STATEMENT THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION
06:27:48PM DID FIND THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING IS COMPARABLE AND
06:27:51PM COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING -- SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD
06:27:56PM AND CONSISTENT WITH THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE
06:27:59PM DESIGNATION.
06:27:59PM SO IT BEGAN AND ENDED CONSISTENT DETERMINATION WITH THE FACT
06:28:06PM THAT THE ENTIRE ISLAND IS ZONED RMU-100.
06:28:10PM THE CITY AND PLANNING COMMISSION PLANNERS RELY ON THE COMP
06:28:13PM PLANS GENERALIZED DESIGNATION OF RMU-100.
06:28:17PM FAILING TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOW THE HARBOUR ISLAND PLANNED
06:28:21PM DEVELOPMENT HAS EVOLVED SINCE 1987 AND THE RMU-100 PROVIDES
06:28:27PM A CEILING DENSITY FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY OF KNIGHT'S
06:28:31PM RUN AVENUE.
06:28:32PM SO MANY TIMES OVER MY 50 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE I HAVE BEEN
06:28:35PM TOLD BY THE PLANNERS, WELL, THAT IS THE CEILING, THE MAXIMUM
06:28:39PM YOU CAN GO.
06:28:40PM VERY RARELY DO YOU GET TO GO TO THE MAXIMUM.
06:28:43PM BUT THAT'S HOW THEY JUSTIFIED IT BEING CONSISTENT.
06:28:45PM THE SECOND ISSUE WAS KNIGHT'S RUN AVENUE REFERRING TO THE
06:28:49PM BEFORE PHOTOS, SINCE 1987, KNIGHT'S RUN AVENUE WAS AT THE
06:28:53PM SIGNED AND UTILIZED AS A PHYSICAL DEMARCATION OF LAND USES
06:28:58PM AND I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH MR. CREMER.
06:29:03PM IT IS A SIGNIFICANT PHYSICAL BARRIER.
06:29:05PM YOU HAVE THOSE SIGNIFICANT PHYSICAL BARRIERS THROUGHOUT THE
06:29:10PM CITY WHERE YOU HAVE OFFICE ON ONE SIDE AND RESIDENTIAL ON
06:29:12PM THE OTHER SIDE.
06:29:13PM SO A WELCOME CENTER WAS CONSTRUCTED ON SUBJECT PROPERTY IN
06:29:17PM THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES IT PROMOTED, HAD LIMITED ACCESS
06:29:21PM AND ENTRY WAY GATES WERE INSTALLED SOUTH OF KNIGHT'S RUN
06:29:26PM AVENUE.
06:29:26PM THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IS INCOMPATIBILITY.
06:29:29PM HERE I AM GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT I EMPHASIZE THAT REFERRING
06:29:32PM TO THE -- AGAIN, TO THE GROUND LEVEL BEFORE AND AFTER
06:29:37PM PHOTOGRAPHIC PORTRAYALS, THE TAMPA COMP PLAN FURTHER DEFINES
06:29:43PM COMPATIBILITY AND FROM YOUR CITY COMP PLAN.
06:29:45PM YOU NOTICE THAT DIDN'T QUOTED EARLIER AND I QUOTE,
06:29:49PM COMPATIBILITY IS DEFINED AS THE CHARACTERISTICS OF DIFFERENT
06:29:54PM USES AND ACTIVITIES OR DESIGN THAT ALLOWED THEM TO BE
06:29:57PM LOCATED NEAR OR ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER IN HARMONY.
06:30:00PM SOME ELEMENTS -- IS MOST IMPORTANT, SOME ELEMENTS AFFECTING
06:30:07PM COMPATIBILITY INCLUDE, AND I QUOTE, HEIGHT, SCALE, MASS, AND
06:30:12PM BULK OF STRUCTURES, PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR TRAFFIC,
06:30:17PM CIRCULATION, ACCESS AND PARKING IMPACTS.
06:30:19PM IT REFERS TO THE SENSITIVITY OF DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS IN
06:30:25PM MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER -- I EMPHASIZE, THE CHARACTER OF
06:30:30PM EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.
06:30:31PM BASED ON BASIC PLANNING PRINCIPLES, AS WELL AS THE CITY'S
06:30:36PM COMP PLAN'S COMPATIBILITY DEFINITION, AND AS A COURT
06:30:42PM QUALIFIED EXPERT WITNESS IN URBAN PLANNING AND LAND USE WITH
06:30:46PM OVER 50 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:30:49PM I STARTED HERE IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN 1972.
06:30:51PM I AM STATING FOR THE RECORD THAT THE PROPOSED BUILDING AT
06:30:56PM THIS LOCATION IS NOT COMPATIBLE DUE TO -- AND I AM GOING TO
06:31:00PM USE THE SAME WORDS AS IN YOUR COMP PLAN DEFINITION OF
06:31:04PM COMPATIBILITY -- DUE TO ITS HEIGHT, ITS SCALE, MASS, AND
06:31:10PM BULK OF STRUCTURE, PEDESTRIAN OR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC
06:31:14PM CIRCULATION, ACCESS AND PARKING IMPACTS.
06:31:16PM AND ONE THING THAT WAS FAILED TO MENTION IS HE REFERRED TO
06:31:22PM SOME OTHER MULTISTORY BUILDING SOUTH OF KNIGHTS RUN AVENUE.
06:31:26PM TELL ME WHICH ONE IS COMMERCIAL LAND USE.
06:31:30PM THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE.
06:31:31PM ALL OF THE MULTISTORY BUILDINGS SOUTH OF KNIGHTS RUN IS
06:31:39PM RESIDENTIAL.
06:31:39PM THIS IS THE FIRST COMMERCIAL MULTISTORY AND IN FACT HIGH
06:31:43PM RISE SOUTH OF KNIGHTS RUN AVENUE.
06:31:46PM THAT IS THE BIG DIFFERENCE AND THAT IS WHY IT IS
06:31:48PM INCOMPATIBLE.
06:31:49PM I WILL TURN OVER MY TIME TO MR. WRIGHT.
06:31:52PM >> GOOD EVENING, DAVID WRIGHT, PRESIDENT OF TSP COMPANIES.
06:31:56PM TAMPA, FLORIDA.
06:31:57PM 33688.
06:31:59PM I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THE REVISED PROPOSAL STILL DOES
06:32:02PM NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF DIVISION 6, SITE PLAN ZONING
06:32:06PM PROCEDURES, CHAPTER 27, SECTION 136, ITEMS 1, 2 AND 6.
06:32:10PM ITEM 1 STATES, PROMOTE THE EFFICIENT AND SUSTAINABLE USE OF
06:32:14PM LAND WITH CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS
06:32:18PM TO SURROUNDING IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOODS.
06:32:20PM OUR OPINION IS THAT THIS REZONING WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE LAND
06:32:24PM USE AND COMPATIBILITY IMPACT BASED ON THE PROPOSED
06:32:28PM NONRESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL LAND USE, STRUCTURAL MASSING,
06:32:31PM STRUCTURAL HEIGHT AND COMMERCIAL TRANSPORTATION
06:32:35PM CHARACTERISTICS.
06:32:35PM ITEM 2, ALLOW THE INTEGRATION OF DIFFERENT LAND USES AND
06:32:39PM DENSITY IN ONE DEVELOPMENT WHICH ENCOURAGE COMPATIBLE OF
06:32:43PM OVERALL SITE DESIGN, SCALE AND INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL TO THE
06:32:47PM PROJECT SITE.
06:32:48PM THE APPLICANT'S NARRATIVE SAY THAT THE HOTEL IS COMPATIBLE
06:32:52PM WITH THE SURROUNDING HIGH-RISE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN; HOWEVER,
06:32:55PM ALL OF THE APPLICANTS REFERENCES LAND USE ARE TO THE EAST,
06:33:00PM WEST, NORTH OF KNIGHTS RUN.
06:33:04PM THE APPLICANT'S NARRATIVE OF ALL OF HARBOR ISLANDS AS THIS
06:33:08PM COMMUNITIES.
06:33:09PM THE DIFFERENTIATION OF THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND HIGH
06:33:15PM RISE NORTH OF KNIGHTS RUN AVENUE.
06:33:18PM IN OUR OPINION, THE COMMERCIAL LAND USE IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH
06:33:21PM THE DEFINED COMMUNITY SOUTH OF KNIGHTS RUN.
06:33:24PM ITEM 6, PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT WHERE APPROPRIATE
06:33:28PM AND LOCATION, CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE
06:33:31PM SURROUNDING IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOODS, BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND
06:33:33PM EXISTING GEOGRAPHY.
06:33:35PM THE REZONING IS NOT APPROPRIATELY LOCATED, NOT IN CHARACTER
06:33:40PM AND NOT COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING RESIDENTIAL SCALE
06:33:43PM NEIGHBORHOOD LOCATED SOUTH OF KNIGHTS RUN.
06:33:45PM THANK YOU.
06:33:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:33:48PM HOP IS THIS GENTLEMAN?
06:33:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU MR. OLIVER.
06:33:56PM >> YES, I AM.
06:33:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BILL OLIVER HAS SIX NAMES.
06:34:01PM PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE WHY YOU ARE PRESENCE JENNIFER BENNING.
06:34:04PM >> HERE.
06:34:05PM >> PATTY CAMSEN.
06:34:07PM >> HERE.
06:34:08PM >> JAMES CAPEL.
06:34:10PM >> PRESENT.
06:34:11PM >> GARY HALECAT.
06:34:16PM -- HALBEAT.
06:34:22PM ARE YOU PRESENT?
06:34:24PM I DON'T SEE THAT.
06:34:25PM I DON'T SEE GARY RESPONDING.
06:34:27PM ROSEMARY CURTIS.
06:34:29PM AND KENDALL ATRINELLA.
06:34:32PM THANK YOU.
06:34:33PM THAT IS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE NAMES PLUS THREE MAKE
06:34:37PM EIGHT.
06:34:37PM LAST CALL FOR GARY HALBRETACK.
06:34:42PM >> IF I CAN GO ON THE RECORD FOR A SECOND.
06:34:45PM JULIA MANDEL.
06:34:46PM ONE OF THE NAMES ON YOUR LIST SHOULD NOT BE ON THE LIST.
06:34:49PM >> I CONSOLIDATED IT TO MAKE IT EASIER AND AFAILED AT THAT
06:34:59PM THE.
06:34:59PM IF YOU CAN REMOVE THOSE NAMES.
06:35:02PM CAN YOU --
06:35:05PM >> SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO BE DISRUPTIVE.
06:35:07PM >> I MISUNDERSTOOD.
06:35:10PM >> I THINK MY TIME WAS YIELDED TO MR. SMOKER.
06:35:13PM I AM DR. HEIDI.
06:35:14PM I DID INTEND TO SPEAK AND DR. SOLOMON GAVE ME A MINUTE OF
06:35:18PM HER TIME AND DR. SOLOMON.
06:35:20PM I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION.
06:35:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DID YOU COMPLETE A FORM?
06:35:25PM >> SHE GAVE IT TO ME AND I DIDN'T MEAN SHE WAS TRYING TO
06:35:29PM SUBMIT IT --
06:35:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS MANDEL, PLEASE STRAIGHTen it OUT.
06:35:32PM >> I MISTAKENLY COLLECTED A FORM THAT I THOUGHT WERE FOR
06:35:36PM THESE PRESENTATIONS AND APPARENTLY SHE INTEND TO BE FOR HER
06:35:41PM OWN PRESENTATION AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WHEN I COLLECTED
06:35:44PM THE FORM.
06:35:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHICH FORM.
06:35:46PM >> THE SPEAKER WAIVER.
06:35:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. SMOKER, MR. OLIVER OR MR. POWELL.
06:35:51PM >> THE OTHER -- AM I -- EXCUSE ME, SIR.
06:35:55PM I AM SORRY.
06:35:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL FIGURE THIS OUT.
06:35:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:36:01PM EXCUSE ME.
06:36:31PM I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
06:36:33PM MISS MANDELL.
06:36:34PM >> JULIA MANDELL --
06:36:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM SORRY, FORGIVE ME, MA'AM.
06:36:40PM THAT PERSON TO THE LEFT.
06:36:41PM IS THAT PERSON'S NAME BEEN CALLED?
06:36:43PM >> IT HAS BEEN.
06:36:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO WHAT THAT MEANS SHE HAS YIELDED HER
06:36:49PM TIME.
06:36:49PM >> SHE UNDERSTANDS THAT AND WE ARE FINE MOVING FORWARD AS WE
06:36:54PM PREVIOUSLY DETERMINED.
06:36:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE WE PREPARED TO GIVE MR. OLIVER NINE
06:36:59PM MINUTES NOW.
06:37:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW THAT WE HAVE THAT STRAIGHT, MISS MANDELL
06:37:03PM -- MISS MANDEL, WILL YOU MIND FOR ME, THIS -- THIS PHOTO ON
06:37:07PM THE EASEL, CAN WE -- PLEASE AND THANK YOU.
06:37:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
06:37:11PM ACTUALLY NO RESPONSE FROM GARY.
06:37:16PM SO THAT WILL BE EIGHT MINUTES, MR. OLIVER.
06:37:18PM THANK YOU.
06:37:18PM AND THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP FOR THE RECORD.
06:37:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
06:37:25PM PLEASE PROCEED.
06:37:26PM >> BILL OLIVER.
06:37:27PM I AM A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WITH 44 YEARS OF
06:37:30PM EXPERIENCE BOTH DOING AND REVIEWING LAND DEVELOPMENT TRAFFIC
06:37:35PM STUDIES AND CREATING TRAFFIC DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCEDURES
06:37:38PM FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES LIKE YOU GUYS ARE.
06:37:41PM I HAVE BEEN RETAINED BY HARBOUR ISLAND SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD
06:37:45PM ASSOCIATION TO REVIEW THE PROPOSED HOTEL DEVELOPMENT.
06:37:48PM MR. POWELL INDICATED COMPATIBILITY IS THE KEY ISSUE.
06:37:52PM HE READ THE CITY'S COMPATIBILITY.
06:37:55PM PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR, CIRCULAR ACCESS AND PARKING
06:37:59PM IMPACTS AS KEY ISSUES.
06:38:01PM THE APPLICANT'S TRAFFIC STUDY MERELY SHOWED THAT THE
06:38:08PM INTERSECTION CAN ACCOMMODATE THE PEAK HOUR OF TRAFFIC AND HAS
06:38:12PM NOT ADDRESSED COMPATIBILITY ISSUES.
06:38:15PM TRAFFIC COMPATIBILITY CAN BE ASSESSED IN FOUR DIVISIONS
06:38:19PM INCLUDING THE ONES YOU SEE HERE, THE QUANTITY, THE TYPE, THE
06:38:22PM TIME OF DAY AND THE DAYS OF THE WEEK THAT TRAFFIC IS
06:38:26PM GENERATED.
06:38:26PM IN TERMS OF THE QUANTITY OF TRAFFIC.
06:38:28PM MY FINGERS ARE TOO DRY.
06:38:31PM THE APPLICANT'S TRAFFIC STUDY AND THE PRESENTATION THEY MADE
06:38:35PM DURING APPEAR PRIOR HEARING SAID THAT THE A.M. AND P.M.
06:38:39PM PEAK-HOUR TRIPS ARE COMPARABLE.
06:38:41PM TABLE 4 IN HIS OWN REPORT INDICATES THAT IN THE A.M., THE
06:38:45PM PROPOSED HOTEL GENERATES 12.6 TIMES THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT
06:38:49PM THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING DOES.
06:38:51PM AND IN P.M., 7.4 TIMES AS MUCH.
06:38:55PM TO ME, THAT IS NOT COMPARABLE.
06:38:57PM I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE.
06:38:59PM SECONDLY, THE TYPES OF TRAFFIC THAT ARE GENERATED.
06:39:02PM AT A HOTEL, SERVICE VEHICLES, SHUTTLES, UBER, LYFT, TAXI,
06:39:08PM RENTAL CARS, STAFF VEHICLES AND SO FORTH.
06:39:10PM OFFICE BUILDING, WELL, YOU DO REQUIRE SOME OF THOSE SERVICES
06:39:13PM BUT CERTAINLY NOT AT THE LEVEL AND FREQUENCY OF A HOTEL.
06:39:17PM AND A HOTEL GENERATES MUCH MORE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THAN AN
06:39:23PM OFFICE BUILDING WOULD.
06:39:24PM THE HOTEL WOULD GENERATE MORE TRANSIENT TRAFFIC THAT IS LESS
06:39:28PM FAMILIAR THAN AN OFFICE.
06:39:30PM THE OFFICE WOULD ATTRACT THE SAME PEOPLE DAY IN AND DAY OUT
06:39:34PM AND THEY WILL BECOME VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE ROAD NETWORK.
06:39:37PM THE TIME OF DAY THAT TRAFFIC IS GENERATED.
06:39:40PM THIS GRAPH ILLUSTRATES THE TRIP GENERATING CHARACTERISTICS.
06:39:48PM BY INDICATING THE PERCENTAGE OF THE DAILY TRAFFIC THAT
06:39:51PM OCCURS IN EACH HOUR OF THE DAY.
06:39:53PM FOR RESIDENTIAL, OFFICE AND BUSINESS HOTEL USE.
06:39:56PM AND IN THE EVENING HOURS, WHEN RESIDENTIAL USES ARE QUIETING
06:40:00PM DOWN, THE PLAQUE LINE IS THE RESIDENTIAL LAND USE.
06:40:04PM AN OFFICE IS VIRTUALLY SILENT.
06:40:07PM THAT IS THE GREEN LINE.
06:40:08PM THE HOTEL, ON THE OTHER HAND, IS INDICATED BY THE RED LINES.
06:40:13PM AND THE HOTEL GENERATED THE HIGHEST HOURLY TRAFFIC VOLUMES
06:40:17PM IN THE EVENING THAT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:40:19PM THE DAYS OF THE WEEK.
06:40:23PM SIMILAR GRAPH.
06:40:25PM THE RESIDENTIAL IS THE BLACK.
06:40:26PM THE OFFICE IS THE GREEN AND THE HOTEL IS IN RED.
06:40:29PM ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, AN OFFICE BUILDING IS DORMANT.
06:40:33PM COMPARED TO WEEKDAY TRAFFIC.
06:40:37PM A BUSINESS HOTEL ON THE OTHER HAND GENERATES MORE TRAFFIC ON
06:40:41PM A SATURDAY AND A SUNDAY THAN ON THE WEEKDAYS.
06:40:44PM GUEST TRAFFIC COMES IN FOR WEDDINGS, HOCKEY GAMES,
06:40:48PM CONVENTIONS THAT YOU DON'T SEE AT AN OFFICE BUILDING.
06:40:50PM IN ADDITION, A WAIVER TO THE PARKING REQUIREMENT IS BEING
06:40:54PM SOUGHT THAT FACILITATES THE REDUCTION IN BUILDING HEIGHT.
06:40:57PM I REVIEWED THE TECHNICAL JUSTIFICATION STATEMENT PROVIDED BY
06:41:01PM THE APPLICANT, AND THE CITED SUPPORT INFORMATION, THE
06:41:06PM STATEMENT CONTAINS A LOT OF RHETORIC BUT NO TECHNICAL
06:41:09PM JUSTIFICATION THAT IS REQUIRED BY YOUR CODES.
06:41:11PM THERE WAS NO QUANTITATIVE DATA THAT WOULD SUPPORT A 25%
06:41:17PM REDUCTION IN PARKING.
06:41:18PM ONE OF THE ARTICLES THAT THE APPLICANT CITES INCLUDES THIS
06:41:22PM CONCLUDE BE STATEMENT.
06:41:23PM WHICH SAYS A LOT OF WORDS BUT IT OUTLINES 11 DIFFERENT
06:41:29PM ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED WHEN LOOKING AT A PARKING
06:41:32PM REDUCTION.
06:41:33PM THIS IS A LOT OF WORDS THAT BASICALLY SAYS, DON'T USE THIS
06:41:37PM ARTICLE TO SUPPORT ANY PARTICULAR PARKING VARIANCE REQUEST.
06:41:42PM THE APPLICANT HAS NOT PROVIDED ANY LOCAL, TECHNICAL SUPPORT
06:41:47PM ADDRESSING THE 11 ISSUES THAT THIS ARTICLE CITES THAT WOULD
06:41:51PM JUSTIFY TO WHAT EXTEND PARKING COULD BE WAIVED.
06:41:54PM THE ITE PARKING RATE THAT THEY REFERENCED IN THEIR
06:41:58PM JUSTIFICATION WOULD REPRESENT AN AVERAGE OBSERVED PARKING
06:42:01PM RATE OF PARKING SPACES PER ROOM, AND IT IS NOT DESIGN
06:42:06PM GUIDANCE TO ACCOMMODATE PEAK DEMANDS.
06:42:10PM I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT ANY PUBLIC PARKING GARAGES WHICH
06:42:14PM SUPPORT OTHER HOTELS, AND THEIR COMMITMENTS THERE THAT MIGHT
06:42:18PM HELP TO ACCOMMODATE A PEAK PARKING OVERLOAD ARE FAIRLY
06:42:22PM DISTANT FROM THIS HOTEL WITH GUESTS WITH LUGGAGE.
06:42:30PM ACCESS TO THE SITE.
06:42:31PM TRANSIENT HOTEL GUESTS WON'T BE FAMILIAR WITH THE ROADS AS
06:42:36PM THOSE WHO WOULD REGULARLY DRIVE TO AN OFFICE BUILDING.
06:42:39PM THOSE ARRIVING FROM THE EAST WILL HAVE TO MAKE A U-TURN IN
06:42:44PM THE FOUR-WAY STOP INTERSECTION.
06:42:47PM AND THIS IS THE UNUSUAL CONDITION.
06:42:49PM YOU DON'T ENCOUNTER A FOUR-WAY STOP AT THE INTERSECTION OF
06:42:53PM TWO FOUR-LANE ROADS VERY OFTEN.
06:42:55PM ROADWAY SAFETY IS BASED ON CONSISTENCY AND PREDICTABILITY OF
06:43:01PM ENVIRONMENT.
06:43:01PM AND AN UNUSUAL ROAD CONFIGURATION FOR UNFAMILIAR DRIVERS
06:43:06PM CONTRIBUTES TO POTENTIAL CONFUSION, WHICH DETRACTS FROM
06:43:10PM SAFETY.
06:43:10PM SO ON THE FOUR DIMENSIONS OF COMPATIBILITY, THIS HOTEL
06:43:17PM FAILS.
06:43:17PM THERE IS NO TECHNICAL JUSTIFICATION OF A 25% REDUCTION IN
06:43:23PM PARKING SUPPLY AND LESS SAFE TRAFFIC PATTERN CREATED.
06:43:26PM THIS HOTEL WILL BRING THESE TRAFFIC ISSUES TO THE DOORSTEP
06:43:30PM OF THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
06:43:32PM AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
06:43:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION.
06:43:47PM THE LAST -- I BELIEVE IT WAS THE LAST AERIAL VIEW YOU HAD UP
06:43:51PM THERE.
06:43:59PM THE BOTTOM YELLOW LINE, I SEE THAT IT IS GOING SOUTHBOUND TO
06:44:05PM AN ENTRANCE ON THE PROPOSED SITE.
06:44:07PM IS THAT CORRECT?
06:44:09PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
06:44:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF THAT WERE CUT OFF, IF THAT WERE STOPPED,
06:44:12PM THAT ENTRANCE FROM THE SOUTH SIDE, WOULD THAT MAKE ANY
06:44:17PM DIFFERENCE?
06:44:20PM >> IT WOULD PUT MORE PEOPLE INTO THE LEFT TURN OBVIOUSLY
06:44:25PM INTO THIS LEFT TURN HERE.
06:44:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
06:44:28PM >> BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T COME OUT THERE AND WOULD PREVENT
06:44:31PM TRAFFIC CAN FROM EXITING.
06:44:32PM IT WOULD PROVIDE SOME DEGREE OF SEPARATION AND WOULD PROVIDE
06:44:37PM DIFFICULTY FOR THE HOTEL CIRCULATION IT.
06:44:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: USING THAT NORTHBOUND AS AN EXIT ONLY, THAT
06:44:43PM WOULD BE CUTTING OUT ANY TRAFFIC COMING SOUTHBOUND INTO THE
06:44:46PM HOTEL.
06:44:47PM THANK YOU, SIR.
06:44:50PM >> I AM NOT SURE I FOLLOW THAT, BUT -- IF I ANSWERED YOUR
06:44:56PM QUESTION.
06:44:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:44:58PM IT WE WILL PUT IT BACK UP FOR YOU.
06:45:09PM >> I JUST NEED TO SHOW THIS ONE.
06:45:13PM SO IF WE CAN PERHAPS HOLD IT.
06:45:16PM ALL THE WAY UP THERE AND I CAN POINT TO IT.
06:45:26PM DO I GET IT AT MINUTE 48 OR START AT 3.
06:45:43PM GOOD EVENING, VERNON ALINGER.
06:45:47PM AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
06:45:49PM FOR DISCLOSURE A HARBOUR ISLAND RESIDENT AND A MEMBER
06:45:53PM OF TWO HOA BOARDS.
06:45:55PM IT IS VERY UNFORTUNATE THAT WE ARE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU.
06:45:57PM I THINK IF THE APPLICANT TRULY BUILT A BOUTIQUE HOTEL WHICH
06:46:01PM IS 50 ROOMS, THERE PROBABLY WOULDN'T ANYONE HERE TONIGHT.
06:46:08PM BUT WE ARE HERE.
06:46:08PM COUNCIL MADE THE CORRECT DECISION OF BALANCING THE RIGHTS OF
06:46:12PM THE DEVELOPER AND THE REST OF THE CITY LAST TIME.
06:46:17PM YOU GOT IT RIGHT.
06:46:18PM THERE IS NO REASON TO CHANGE.
06:46:19PM VERY LITTLE CHANGE.
06:46:20PM SOME TWEAKING, BUT STILL NOT AT ALL COMPATIBLE WITH HARBOUR
06:46:25PM ISLAND AS A WHOLE.
06:46:27PM IT'S REALLY TIME TO DRAW THE LINE, AGAIN, AT KNIGHTS RUN
06:46:36PM ROAD AND I WOULD EXPECT BASED ON EXPERT TESTIMONY AND
06:46:41PM RESIDENTIAL TESTIMONY THAT THIS TIME, WE CAN HOPE TO SEE AN
06:46:46PM UNANIMOUS VOTE AGAINST.
06:46:47PM THE DEVELOPER FILED A SUIT AGAINST THE CITY AND ALLEGES THAT
06:46:51PM CITY COUNCIL WAS SWAYED BY NEGATIVE OPINION DENYING THE
06:46:55PM REZONING RATHER THAN CONSIDERING COMPETENT EVIDENCE, BUT I
06:46:59PM AM TOLD IN REALITY, THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT IS QUITE
06:47:03PM DIFFERENT FROM ARE THE ORIGINAL PLAN.
06:47:05PM AND THIS THIS HOTEL STILL DOESN'T FIT THAT CHANGE -- THAT
06:47:13PM PLAN AS IMPLEMENTED.
06:47:14PM AND THAT THERE IS A DOCTRINE CALLED CHANGE CONDITIONS
06:47:18PM DOCTRINE THAT GIVES THE CITY COUNCIL THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO
06:47:21PM RECOGNIZE THIS REALITY AND DENY THIS REQUEST.
06:47:25PM AND ANOTHER POINT, IN MEDIATION, IT WAS POINTED OUT THERE IS
06:47:30PM NO WAY FOR EASTBOUND HOTEL TRAFFIC TO TURN LEFT INTO THE
06:47:34PM HOTEL FORCING A U-TURN.
06:47:37PM THAT WAS JUST DESCRIBED AND I WILL POINT OUT HERE, LOOK
06:47:40PM WHERE THAT U-TURN WOULD BE RIGHT OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT
06:47:44PM INTERSECTION AND THAT IS TRULY UNACCEPTABLE.
06:47:46PM RIGHT NOW WE ARE ALMOST A FACEOFF FOR THE LIGHTNING.
06:47:49PM IMAGINE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC HAS GONE THROUGH THE INTERSECTION
06:47:53PM BY THE CONVENTION CENTER.
06:47:55PM EVERY CAR THAT HAS A GPS IS GOING TO BE DIRECTED AROUND THAT
06:48:01PM TO THE EAST GATE.
06:48:02PM IF THEY ARE GOING TO THIS HOTEL, THE EAST GATE AND THEY WILL
06:48:05PM HAVE TOO DO THAT U-TURN AND THAT IS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE.
06:48:09PM IN AT THE MEDIATION, THE DEVELOPER SAID, WELL, THAT'S NOT
06:48:14PM OUR PROBLEM.
06:48:15PM I DO AGREE WITH THE DEVELOPER, IT IS NOT HIS PROBLEM BUT
06:48:20PM YOUR PROBLEM AND MY PROBLEM AND ALL OF OUR PROBLEM.
06:48:22PM AND WE JUST CAN'T ALLOW THAT DANGEROUS YOU ACTIVITY THROUGH
06:48:28PM THAT INTERSECTION.
06:48:29PM YOU KNOW, I SAW THE PLAINTIFF CITED IN THEIR FILING -- OR
06:48:34PM THE LEGAL BRIEF, HE CITES AND QUOTES MEMBERS OF THE.PUBLIC
06:48:39PM IN SUPPORT OF THE FILING.
06:48:40PM I HAVE DISCLOSED MY CONNECTIONS TO THE HOAs.
06:48:45PM IN REALITY, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SPEAKING WERE KNOWN OR
06:48:49PM SUSPECTED TO HAVE DIRECT FINANCIAL TIES TO THE DEVELOPER.
06:48:51PM SO ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS IN FAVOR SHOULD BE DISCOUNTED UNLESS
06:48:58PM THEY SAY THEY HAVE NO TIES TO THE DEVELOPER.
06:49:00PM THANK YOU.
06:49:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:49:01PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE YOUR PHOTO BACK.
06:49:04PM >> UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE TO KEEP LOOKING, I WILL TAKE IT.
06:49:07PM >> HELLO, CITY COUNCIL.
06:49:15PM CHARLIE TOBIN.
06:49:18PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
06:49:19PM I LIVED ON ABBY'S WAY MY ENTIRE LIFE, AND THE SECOND TIME I
06:49:23PM WILL BE SPEAKING AGAINST THE LIBERTY GROUP AND THE PROJECT
06:49:25PM THAT HE HAS PROPOSED.
06:49:27PM I WANT TO SAY I AM A MILLENNIAL AND QUITE CONCERNING THIS
06:49:32PM WAS DENIED AT THE BEGINNING AND SINCE THERE IS A LARGE
06:49:35PM ENOUGH SUM OF MONEY INVOLVED AND A LAWSUIT THAT WE ARE BACK
06:49:38PM HERE.
06:49:38PM I AM BEGINNING TO WONDER SINCE THIS HAS HAPPENED ONCE AGAIN
06:49:42PM AND WE ARE BACK HERE, HOW MANY MORE TIMES WE WILL BE BACK
06:49:45PM HERE UNTIL THE LIBERTY GROUP GETS THEIR WAY.
06:49:48PM IF THIS IS NOT APPROVED THEY WILL NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER
06:49:53PM AND A MONETARY AMOUNT AGAIN.
06:49:56PM THE MAJORITY OF RESIDENCES ARE AGAINST THE BUILDING OF THIS
06:50:00PM HOTEL AND ANY TIME THERE IS A CITY COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING
06:50:03PM THIS HOTEL WE WILL BE HERE UNTIL THIS PROJECT IS SHUT DOWN
06:50:06PM FOR GOOD.
06:50:06PM IT IS DANGEROUS FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON
06:50:10PM HARBOUR ISLAND AND COMPLETELY IMPACT AND SLOW TRAFFIC
06:50:13PM PATTERN IN THE HEART OF HARBOR ISLAND.
06:50:16PM CITY COUNCIL, I URGE YOU TO SHUT TOWN THE PROJECT ONCE AGAIN
06:50:20PM AND HOW MANY TIMES THEY COME TO YOU WITH ANOTHER ANGLE OR
06:50:24PM REMOVE FIVE HOTEL ROOMS.
06:50:25PM A MEASLY AMOUNT.
06:50:27PM THE NUMBER OF ROOMS PREVIOUSLY WAS 150.
06:50:29PM NOW BEING PROPOSED TO 145.
06:50:31PM I GUARANTEE YOU IF IT GETS DENIED AGAIN, THEY WILL COME WITH
06:50:36PM YOU 140 AND SO ON AND SO ON.
06:50:38PM I WANTED TO APOLOGIZE FOR US HAVING TO BE HERE AGAIN BECAUSE
06:50:42PM SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN THE FIRST TIME FOR GOOD AND
06:50:44PM LIBERTY GROUP SHOULD ACCEPT NO AS AN ANSWER.
06:50:47PM THANK YOU.
06:50:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:50:48PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, JESSICA SCHWARTZKOPF.
06:50:58PM I WAS SWORN IN.
06:50:59PM I AM HARBOR WALK ROAD ON HARBOUR ISLAND AND ALSO
06:51:02PM REPRESENTING MY MOM, BRENDA SCHWARTZKOPF ON ANCHORAGE ROAD
06:51:06PM IN HARBOUR ISLAND.
06:51:07PM I AM SPEAKING ON BOTH OF OUR BEHALVES AS RESIDENTS.
06:51:12PM I WAS HERE PREVIOUSLY AND SPOKE AND SPOKE OF MY CONCERN --
06:51:17PM OUR CONCERNS REALLY ABOUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES GETTING
06:51:20PM THROUGH.
06:51:20PM WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING ON.
06:51:23PM IT'S PRETTY CRAZY DOWN THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE
06:51:26PM GAMES, CONVENTIONS, ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
06:51:29PM AND ALL THIS HAPPENING AT WITH UNTIME.
06:51:31PM WE HAVE BEEN VERY CONCERNED ABOUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES BEING
06:51:35PM ABLE TO ACCESS, THE TIME IT WILL TAKE.
06:51:37PM WE DID MOVE TO HARBOUR ISLAND FOR THE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO
06:51:41PM TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL FOR MY PARENTS, AS WELL AS THE
06:51:45PM SECURITY THERE.
06:51:45PM SO THAT IS A BIG CONCERN OF OURS.
06:51:48PM I HAVE SPOKEN TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE THE EMERGENCY
06:51:51PM RESPONDERS FOR OUR AREA.
06:51:53PM AND THEY SAID THEY HAVE REQUESTED RESOURCES -- MORE
06:51:57PM RESOURCES TO TAKE CARE OF THE AREA DOWN THERE WITH THE
06:52:00PM TREMENDOUS GROWTH THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON.
06:52:02PM SO JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
06:52:05PM AND THEN, ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE FELT LIKE THE -- THE PEOPLE IN
06:52:09PM HARBOUR ISLAND WERE ELATED AFTER THE LAST DECISION WAS MADE
06:52:19PM WE THOUGHT THEY WERE HEARD AND EXCITED AND LIKE A PUNCH IN
06:52:23PM THE GUT WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP HERE
06:52:27PM AGAIN AND DO THIS.
06:52:27PM MY MOM MENTIONED SOMETHING THE OTHER DAY, AND WE WERE
06:52:31PM DRIVING OVER THE BRIDGE.
06:52:32PM COMING BACK FROM BAYSHORE AND FIGHTING ALL THE TRAFFIC.
06:52:35PM AND YOU COME UP OVER THE BRIDGE AND THERE ARE PEOPLE
06:52:38PM CROSSING AND SCOOTERS AND BICYCLES.
06:52:41PM IT IS CHAOTIC AT TIMES.
06:52:43PM VERY EXCITING BUT CHAOTIC.
06:52:45PM YOU COME UP TO JACKSON'S AND TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT OF
06:52:49PM THERE.
06:52:49PM PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE GOING AND YOU PASS
06:52:52PM JACKSON'S AND COME TO THE STOP SIGN AT KNIGHTS RUN AND YOU
06:52:56PM ARE LIKE -- [SIGHING]
06:52:58PM -- WE ARE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN.
06:53:00PM HERE WE ARE.
06:53:00PM YOU CAN SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN FRONT OF US.
06:53:02PM THE GATES ARE RIGHT THERE.
06:53:04PM YES, NOT RIGHT ON KNIGHTS RUN, BUT IT WAS ALREADY MENTIONED
06:53:07PM THEY ARE NOT THERE BECAUSE OTHERWISE THE TRAFFIC GOING
06:53:10PM THROUGH THE SELF KURT GATE WILL RUN INTO KNIGHTS RUN AND THE
06:53:13PM ROAD.
06:53:13PM THAT IS OUR COMMUNITY.
06:53:14PM THAT IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THAT POINT ON.
06:53:16PM YOU LOOK AND SEE THE ATHLETIC CLUB.
06:53:19PM TWO MARQUEES.
06:53:20PM ONE ON EACH SIDE.
06:53:22PM WELCOME TO HARBOUR ISLAND.
06:53:24PM HARBOUR ISLAND.
06:53:26PM YOU ARE IN THE COMMUNITY OF HARBOUR ISLAND NOW AND REASON IS
06:53:29PM TO SOME BIG EXTENDED STAY HOTEL.
06:53:32PM MY MOM SAY I CAN'T IMAGINE SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEING HERE AT
06:53:36PM THIS SPOT.
06:53:36PM SO OUT OF PLACE.
06:53:38PM I SAY I FEEL THE SAME WAY.
06:53:39PM I FEEL THE SAME WAY I COME OVER THAT BRIDGE ENTERING THE
06:53:43PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:53:43PM IT IS A RELIEF TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE.
06:53:47PM TO THINK WE WOULD DEAL WITH THE CHAOTICNESS WITH
06:53:51PM CONSTRUCTION, FIRST OF ALL, AROUND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE
06:53:54PM ACTUAL HOTEL, IT IS VERY DISCONCERTING AND THAT IS WHY I
06:53:58PM WANTED TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
06:53:59PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
06:54:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:54:01PM >> HI, TREVOR BISWAS.
06:54:07PM I LIVE ON HARBOUR ISLAND, AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
06:54:09PM SO WE HAVE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE.
06:54:11PM TRAFFIC ISSUES.
06:54:13PM LIBERTY GROUP OWNERS LIVING ON HARBOUR ISLAND AND DOESN'T HAVE
06:54:18PM TO DEAL WITH HARBOUR ISLAND TRAFFIC.
06:54:21PM NOT A TRUE BU CREEK HOTEL.
06:54:23PM HE KNEW WHAT IT WAS ZONED FOR WHEN HE BROUGHT IT.
06:54:27PM BRAND IN NEW HOTELS LIKE THE JW OR THE PENDRY LITERALLY NEXT
06:54:35PM TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.
06:54:36PM THEY HAVE EMPTY LOTS ALL OVER DOWNTOWN THAT ARE JUST BEGGING
06:54:39PM FOR DEVELOPMENT.
06:54:40PM YOU CAN PUT GOD KNOWS HOW MANY HOTELS AND FIVE STEPS
06:54:46PM FROM AMALIE AND THE CONVENTION CENTER.
06:54:48PM NOBODY HAS MENTIONED AIRBNB AS AN OPTION.
06:54:51PM GOD KNOWS HOW MANY THOSE ARE.
06:54:54PM GOD KNOW IT IS WE GET TAX FOR IT.
06:54:58PM ORLANDO HAS DISNEY.
06:54:59PM ST. PETE HAS THE SUNSHINE SKYWAY.
06:55:04PM WHAT DO WE HAVE, THE MINURETS IN FRONT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
06:55:10PM TAMPA, SYKES BUILDING.
06:55:11PM A LOT OF RIVER WALKS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
06:55:15PM ARMATURE WORKS.
06:55:16PM WE HAVE HARBOUR ISLAND.
06:55:18PM IT MAKES OUR BOAT PARADES WORLD FAMOUS AND OUR GASPARILLA
06:55:22PM PARADES AMAZING AND BRINGS TOURISTS INTO TAMPA.
06:55:25PM AND IT IS OUR SKYLINE.
06:55:26PM IT IS BECOMING OUR IDENTITY.
06:55:28PM TAMPA IS NOT WHAT IT WAS WHEN I MOVED HERE 20 YEARS AGO.
06:55:31PM IT HAS BECOME AMAZING.
06:55:32PM I LEFT SEATTLE.
06:55:34PM AND IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A BOAT PARADE AROUND A BUNCH OF
06:55:37PM BUILDINGS, THAT IS MANHATTAN.
06:55:39PM THAT IS SEATTLE.
06:55:40PM THAT IS NOT TAMPA.
06:55:41PM ONE LAST THING.
06:55:43PM THE DEVELOPER -- WE HEARD OF THE DEVELOPER IN THE PAST.
06:55:47PM THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE BEST CITY'S INTEREST IN THEIR
06:55:50PM HEART.
06:55:50PM SPARKMAN'S WHARF COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED IF A CERTAIN
06:55:56PM DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE WON THEIR LAWSUIT.
06:55:57PM GOD KNOW WHAT IS THAT WOULD HAVE DONE WITH OUR CITY AND TAKE
06:56:00PM AWAY SOMETHING THAT IS GREAT AND HELPING OUR CITY AS WELL.
06:56:03PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
06:56:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:56:05PM >> SAM HALLENBACK.
06:56:09PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
06:56:11PM AND I AM A RESIDENT OF 23 YEARS.
06:56:13PM NOW LIBERTY HAS SAID THAT HARBOUR ISLAND IS A COMPARABLE
06:56:17PM DENSITY AND INTENSITY TO CHANNELSIDE AND, QUOTE, THAT THE
06:56:22PM PLAN WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.
06:56:23PM THAT IS THE PLAN WE STUCK WITH.
06:56:25PM THIS IS WHAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
06:56:28PM DESPITE WHAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED DECADES AGO WHEN HARBOUR
06:56:32PM ISLAND WAS A DREDGE FLAT, IT IS WHAT IT IS IN 2022, A WHOLLY
06:56:37PM UNIQUE SUBURBAN OASIS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF A DOWNTOWN
06:56:43PM CORRIDOR.
06:56:43PM THE MEDIAN THAT SITSLE OF KNIGHTS RUN AVENUE.
06:56:48PM NORTH OF THAT IS CONCRETE AND STEEL AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES
06:56:51PM WITH IT.
06:56:52PM SOUTH OF THAT AN OASIS OF TREES, GREEN SPACES AND CRIME-FREE
06:56:57PM ZONES.
06:56:58PM OVER THERE IS THE CITY.
06:56:59PM HERE IS SUBURBIA.
06:57:01PM WORKS GREAT AS IS.
06:57:02PM THE LOT IN QUESTION IS SOUTH OF THAT MEDIA BE.
06:57:06PM WHY ON EARTH WOULD WE WANT THIS HOTEL ON OUR SUBURBAN
06:57:10PM DOORSTEP?
06:57:10PM THE RESIDENTS WILL INHERIT ABSOLUTELY ZERO UPSIDE.
06:57:15PM A GIANT PARTY PACKAGE OF INCONVENIENCE, NOISE, LIGHT,
06:57:19PM STENCH, CONSTRUCTION AND TRAFFIC.
06:57:20PM TOO MUCH ON TOO SMALL A LOT.
06:57:23PM OUT OF PLACE AND AESTHETICALLY IT DOESN'T FIT.
06:57:26PM STANDING A CRUISE SHIP VERTICALLY ON A FAMILY HOME LOT.
06:57:31PM THEY HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY.
06:57:33PM PLENTY OF SPACE DOWNTOWN.
06:57:35PM PUT THIS THING SOMEWHERE ELSE BUT NOT ON OUR DOORSTEP.
06:57:38PM HARBOUR ISLAND IS NOT DOWNTOWN AND NOT CHANNELSIDE NO MORE
06:57:42PM THAN DAVIS ISLAND OR HYDE PARK.
06:57:44PM A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND A BEAUTIFUL ONE AT THAT.
06:57:46PM LIBERTY ALSO ARGUED THAT HIGH-END LOW-RISES EXIST ON
06:57:52PM BAYSHORE AND BIG DIFFERENCE.
06:57:53PM THE PEOPLE IN THOSE HIGH RISES ARE PERMANENT RESIDENTS IN
06:57:57PM TOP-DOLLAR CONDOMINIUMS, THE PEOPLE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE
06:58:01PM TRANSIENT TRAVELERS IN A LOW-BUDGET HOTEL.
06:58:04PM THEY WON'T CARE ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEVER WOULD.
06:58:07PM BAYSHORE WOULDN'T WANT THIS NOR WILL DAVIS.
06:58:11PM IF THE RULING GOES LIBERTY'S WAY, SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE
06:58:14PM UNDONE.
06:58:15PM A GROWING EXAMPLE OF THROWING THE WISHES OF THOUSANDS OF TAX
06:58:18PM PAYING RESIDENTS UNDER THE TRUCK FOR WHAT AMOUNTS TO BE
06:58:22PM NOTHING MORE THAN ONE SMALL COMPANY AND ONE MAN'S 12-STORY
06:58:25PM CASH MACHINE.
06:58:28PM THANK YOU.
06:58:31PM [APPLAUSE]
06:58:35PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
06:58:36PM LAUREN TOBIN, AND I AM CURRENTLY THE PRESIDENT OF SAN
06:58:41PM TROPEI'S HOA, A NEIGHBORHOOD IN HARPER HIGHLAND.
06:58:47PM i LIVED ON THE ISLAND FOR 30 YEARS.
06:58:50PM SINCE 1994.
06:58:52PM MY SON IS 20-YEAR-OLD CHARLIE TOBIN THAT YOU HEARD FROM
06:58:56PM BEFORE.
06:58:56PM WE BOTH SPOKE AT THE LAST HEARING.
06:58:59PM HERE IS WHAT WHAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND.
06:59:01PM THERE WAS A HEARING.
06:59:02PM BOTH SIDES WERE HEARD.
06:59:03PM A DECISION WAS MADE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND BECAUSE MR. SHAW
06:59:07PM AND THE LIBERTY GROUP DIDN'T LIKE THE DECISION, THEY
06:59:10PM THREATENED TO SUE THE CITY, AND WE ARE PACK HERE TODAY
06:59:14PM WASTING YOUR TIME AND TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
06:59:17PM WHY?
06:59:19PM THE DECISION THE CITY COUNCIL MADE ON VOTING DOWN THE
06:59:21PM REZONING OF THE PROPERTY WAS MADE BECAUSE OF A CLEAR
06:59:24PM DEMARCATION LINE THAT STILL EXISTS.
06:59:28PM BESIDES THE TWO-STORY HARBOUR ISLAND ATHLETIC CLUB, NOTHING
06:59:34PM SOUTH OF KNIGHTS RUN THAT IS COMMERCIAL AND AN AC MARRIOTT
06:59:39PM PROPERTY HAS NO BUSINESS BEING THERE.
06:59:40PM THESE FACTS ARE UNDISPUTED AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
06:59:46PM WHERE IS THE CITY COUNCIL -- WHAT IS THE CITY COUNCIL'S
06:59:49PM PURPOSE?
06:59:50PM IF YOUR DECISIONS CAN BE ALTERED IF YOU HAVE DEEP ENOUGH
06:59:54PM POCKETS.
06:59:54PM WHAT MESSAGE DOES IT SEND MY SON AND HIS GENERATION?
07:00:00PM WHAT MESSAGE DOES IT SEND OTHER DEVELOPERS?
07:00:03PM IF YOU HAVE DEEP ENOUGH POCKETS, YOU CAN SUE AND GET WHAT
07:00:06PM YOU WANT?
07:00:08PM THE CITY COUNCIL EXISTS FOR A REASON, AND IT PAID FOR BY
07:00:12PM TAXPAYERS.
07:00:13PM I AM A TAXPAYER, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, SO IS SON.
07:00:18PM SO I ASK YOU, WHAT IS YOUR PURPOSE WHEN YOU VOTE ON
07:00:21PM SOMETHING AND SOMEBODY WITH DEEP POCKETS CAN CHANGE YOUR
07:00:24PM DECISION?
07:00:25PM PLEASE STAND BY YOUR ORIGINAL DECISION AND DO NOT CAVE
07:00:28PM BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS A LOT OF MONEY AND THREATENS TO SUE .
07:00:31PM [APPLAUSE]
07:00:36PM MY NAME IS FRAN WEDERA, AND I AM 30-YEAR RESIDENT AND
07:00:45PM PRESIDENT OF HARBOR COURT CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION.
07:00:47PM WE HEAR A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF THE SALES CENTER AND THE BANK
07:00:50PM THERE -- THE BUILDING THAT IS STILL THERE.
07:00:52PM THAT IS THE FOOTPRINT THEY WANT TO BUILD THIS TEN-STORY
07:00:56PM HOTEL ON.
07:00:56PM A SMALL SALES CENTER.
07:00:58PM AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION BY THE
07:01:01PM PETITIONER ABOUT THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY MORE TRAFFIC THAN
07:01:04PM THE BANK HAD.
07:01:05PM AS SOMEBODY WHO LIVED THERE ALMOST SINCE ITS INCEPTION, THE
07:01:09PM MOST TRAFFIC THAT BANK EVER HAD WAS WHEN IT WAS ROBBED 20
07:01:13PM YEARS AGO.
07:01:13PM I KID YOU NOT.
07:01:15PM I HOPE THAT YOU WILL RATIFY YOUR PREVIOUS DECISION.
07:01:21PM THAT IS -- YOU KNOW, PEOPLE -- THE ARTICLES SAY BEHIND THE
07:01:25PM GATES AND EVERYBODY SPEAKS DE-ROGGE FORLY BEHIND THE GA ITS.
07:01:29PM MY HUSBAND WAS A FORMER PROSECUTOR AND YOU GOT TO BELIEVE WE
07:01:33PM WERE BEHIND THE GATES.
07:01:34PM THAT WAS OUR PROTECTION.
07:01:35PM THAT WAS OUR SECURITY.
07:01:37PM AND STILL IS.
07:01:38PM I HOPE THAT YOU PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND RATIFY YOUR
07:01:43PM PRIOR DECISION.
07:01:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, COULD WE NOT HAVE THE
07:01:47PM APPLAUSE.
07:01:47PM THANK YOU.
07:01:48PM WE ADMIRE YOUR ZEAL.
07:01:51PM THANK YOU.
07:01:51PM >> CITY COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING.
07:01:53PM APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND INDULGENCE.
07:01:56PM LEO ROTHBARTH.
07:01:58PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:02:00PM I AM A RELATIVE NEWBIE.
07:02:03PM BEEN HERE SEVEN YEARS.
07:02:04PM WHAT IS UNDENIABLE AND WE ALL AGREE IN SEVEN YEARS THE
07:02:09PM TRAFFIC HAS GOTTEN OUT OF HAND AND CONGESTION HAS GOTTEN OUT
07:02:13PM OF HAND.
07:02:13PM WE CAN DEBATE THE WHYS AND WHEREFORs.
07:02:17PM I AM A ASKING, COMMONPLACE TO WORK 30 MINUTES FREQUENTLY
07:02:22PM LONGER IF ANY EVENT IF MUCH LESS TWO TO GET OFF THE ISLAND
07:02:27PM AND ON THE ISLAND.
07:02:28PM A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE THE ISLAND.
07:02:31PM KIDS THAT LIVE ON ISLAND.
07:02:33PM NO GUARANTEE FOR TOMORROW.
07:02:34PM WE CAN EXPECT PEOPLE WILL GET ILL, POTENTIALLY SERIOUSLY
07:02:38PM ILL.
07:02:39PM ACCIDENTS TO BEFALL THE CHILDREN.
07:02:41PM HOW WILL THE EMS GET THERE IN A REASONABLE TIME AND GET --
07:02:45PM INTO THE ISLAND MUCH LESS EGRESS AND GET THE PATIENT TO THE
07:02:49PM HOSPITAL IN TIME FOR CARE.
07:02:51PM I WOULD ALSO SUBMIT THAT GIVEN THE DISCUSSION OF THE LEGAL
07:02:56PM MATTERS, YOU KNOW, A WRONGFUL DEATH SUIT.
07:03:01PM FLORIDA IS RATHER WILL HE TINGIOUS.
07:03:04PM IT IS UGLY.
07:03:05PM WE ALL HATE IT.
07:03:06PM SOMETHING WE LIVE WITH.
07:03:07PM AND I THINK THAT WILL BE TRAGIC THAT SOMEBODY WOULD PURSUE
07:03:10PM THAT, BUT IT WOULD HAPPEN.
07:03:12PM I JUST THINK IT WOULD.
07:03:13PM IT IS A SAFETY CONCERN, ABOVE AND BEYOND EVERYTHING ELSE.
07:03:18PM I AM A SEPARATE TRAFFIC QUOTE, SCOOTERING ARE A BIG PROBLEM.
07:03:24PM YOU CAN'T RIDE YOUR BIKE ON THE SIDEWALK AND SCOOTERS ARE
07:03:27PM EVERYWHERE, THE APPLICANT HAS FAILED TO ADDRESS THAT MUCH
07:03:31PM LESS THE PARKING ISSUE.
07:03:32PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:03:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:03:36PM >> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN CITRO AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
07:03:42PM I AM BEA BEAR.
07:03:45PM I RESIDE 1000 HARBOUR ISLAND BEAUTIFUL, NUMBER 2512.
07:03:50PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:03:51PM IF THIS HOTEL WOULD BE BUILT, IT WOULD ESTABLISH A PRECEDENT
07:03:57PM THAT WOULD RUIN HARBOUR ISLAND'S AMBIENCE AND RESIDENTIAL
07:04:01PM APPEAL BY OPENING THE DOOR FOR DEVELOPERS TO CREATE A
07:04:04PM CONCRETE CANYON ON KNIGHTS RUN AVENUE.
07:04:09PM I SAY NO TO CREATING A CONCRETE IAN I DON'T KNOW AND NO TO
07:04:14PM THIS TOTALLY INCOMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT.
07:04:16PM I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
07:04:18PM I AM NOT ENTIRELY OPPOSED TO HAVING LIBERTY GROUP BUILD A
07:04:22PM HOTEL AT THAT SITE.
07:04:23PM I AM OPPOSED WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.
07:04:26PM TODAY, I AM SPEAKING TO YOU FROM THE HEART.
07:04:31PM I LOVE TAMPA.
07:04:32PM FOR OVER 30 YEARS, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE AS AN ECONOMIC
07:04:38PM DEVELOPER TO MARKET TAMPA AS AN OUTSTANDING BUSINESS
07:04:42PM DESTINATION.
07:04:42PM SO I KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT WHAT COMPANIES LOOK FOR WHEN
07:04:47PM GOING THROUGH THE HIGHLY COMPLEX AND COMPETITIVE SITE
07:04:53PM SELECTION PROCESS.
07:04:54PM TALENT CONSISTENTLY TOPS THE CRITERIA LIST.
07:04:57PM MANY FACTORS CONTRIBUTE TO THE MARKETABILITY OF A CITY TO
07:05:01PM ATTRACT AND RETAIN TOP TALENT, BUT THE ONES THAT STAND OUT
07:05:06PM ARE THE ONES THAT DISTINGUISH A COMMUNITY FROM THE
07:05:09PM COMPETITION.
07:05:10PM LIBERTY GROUP'S PROPOSED HOTEL WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
07:05:15PM EXCEPT ADD TO TRAFFIC WOES TO ENHANCE TAMPA'S UNIQUENESS.
07:05:20PM IF LIBERTY GROUP HAD APPROACHED THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
07:05:24PM ADD A PROPERTY TO TAMPA'S COLLECTION OF ICONIC HOTELS AND
07:05:29PM HAD DESIGNED SOMETHING CREATIVE THAT LOCATION, AS WELL AS
07:05:32PM VISITORS WOULD RAVE ABOUT, I BELIEVE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH
07:05:36PM BETTER RECEIVED BY HARBOUR ISLAND'S RESIDENTS.
07:05:39PM LOOK THROUGH ANY PICTORIAL BOOK OF TAMPA'S ASSETS AND ASK
07:05:45PM YOURSELF, WOULD THIS BUILDING BE FEATURED IN THE BOOK?
07:05:49PM HELL NO.
07:05:50PM IT COULD BE ANYWHERE USA.
07:05:53PM WHY SHOULD YOU OR LIBERTY GROUP CARE ABOUT THAT?
07:05:56PM BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY, THE POWER TO ADD TO, NOT
07:06:00PM DETRACT FROM OUR CITY'S CHARMING PERSONALITY.
07:06:06PM I LOOK AT LIBERTY GROUP AND ITS TEAM OF IMPRESSIVE AND
07:06:09PM KNOWLEDGEABLE PROFESSIONALS INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT AND
07:06:12PM WONDER, HOW CAN SUCH AN ACCOMPLISHED GROUP AND MARRIOTT
07:06:17PM CORPORATION SETTLE FOR MEDIOCRITY FOR OUR BELOVED CITY.
07:06:22PM THE BUILDING'S DESIGN DOES NOT REFLECT A SCINTILLA OF
07:06:27PM HARBOUR ISLAND'S LIFESTYLE.
07:06:29PM IF ANYTHING, IT WILL NEGATIVELY EFFECT HARBOUR ISLAND'S
07:06:34PM LIFESTYLE.
07:06:35PM THESE PLANS SHOULD BE SCRAPPED AND REPLACED WITH SOMETHING
07:06:38PM THAT IS OF SCALE, LESS OF AN IMPACT ON TRAFFIC THAT IS
07:06:41PM ELEGANT, ICONIC, CHARMING AND ATTRACTIVE.
07:06:47PM MR. SHAW, TAMPA DESERVES BETTER.
07:06:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:06:50PM >> DONOVAN PULLIAM.
07:06:55PM I OWN EIGHT PROPERTIES ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
07:06:58PM I SPECIALIZE RENTING TO YOUNG FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN
07:07:01PM WHO WANT TO HAVE THEIR CHILDREN WALK TO THE SCHOOL BUS,
07:07:05PM ATTEND GOOD SCHOOLS AND THE KIDS RUN AROUND IN AN AREA THAT
07:07:09PM IS SAFE.
07:07:09PM WILL SHAW, FULL LOOK AT ME, YOU ARE --
07:07:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, SIR, YOU SPEAK TO US --
07:07:16PM >> MR. SHAW IS STEALING THE VALUE OF THESE PEOPLE BY BUYING
07:07:20PM A PROPERTY IN 2016 THEN USING STRONG-ARM TO HAVE IT REZONED
07:07:26PM TO TAKE AWAY THE VALUE OF THE OTHER PROPERTY PEOPLE OWNERS
07:07:29PM ON THAT SAME AREA SO THAT THEY CAN LINE THEIR POCKETS WITH
07:07:33PM CORPORATE GREED.
07:07:34PM THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
07:07:35PM IT IS ABOUT MONEY.
07:07:37PM STUFFING THE POCKETS FULL OF MONEY AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHER
07:07:42PM PEOPLE.
07:07:42PM NOT TO MAKE IT BETTER.
07:07:43PM SO THE KIDS WALKING TO THE SCHOOL BUSES HAVE TO WALK BY THAT
07:07:47PM BLOODY HOTEL -- SORRY, NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THAT WORD.
07:07:50PM WALK BY THAT HOTEL EVERY DAY.
07:07:52PM ALL THE ASSOCIATIONS AND PROPERTIES AND ALL OF THEM SCREEN
07:07:55PM THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE TO MAKE SURE IT THERE ARE NOT
07:07:59PM WEIRD PEOPLE, PEDOPHILES AND SO FORTH.
07:08:01PM THE HOTEL DOESN'T SCREEN PEOPLE.
07:08:03PM KIDS HAVE TO WALK BY THAT WITH TRAFFIC.
07:08:05PM TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE COMING BACK FROM AMALIE ARENA
07:08:09PM COMING BACK 11:00, 12:00, DRUNK, WALKING ON THE STREET
07:08:14PM SCREAMING AND MAKING LOUD NOISE.
07:08:16PM I LIVE IN THE PLAZA.
07:08:18PM I LIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 450.
07:08:20PM I OWN PROPERTIES ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
07:08:22PM A CLEAR DEMARCATION FOR THAT PROPERTY TO BE GREEN ZONED.
07:08:25PM IMAGINE IF NEW YORK CENTRAL PARK IF THE DEVELOPERS HAD THE
07:08:29PM WAY, THE LINES THAT DEFINE THE BORDERS, ON ONE SIDE, LET'S
07:08:34PM PUT ANOTHER TALL BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE.
07:08:36PM LET'S PUT ONE MORE BECAUSE THE ONE NEXT TO IT IS THE SAME.
07:08:39PM ABSOLUTE BS.
07:08:41PM YOU GUYS HAVE THE POWER TO STOP THAT.
07:08:43PM I AM NOT AGAINST SHAWS TO DO WITH THE SILOS THEY ARE TRYING
07:08:47PM TO DO WITH THE WHARF.
07:08:49PM THAT MAKES SENSE.
07:08:51PM AN EASY ROAD FOR AN AREA THEY BOUGHT IN 2016 THEY KNEW
07:08:55PM WASN'T ZONED FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE AND THEY ARE TOO TOYING
07:08:59PM STRONG-ARM YOU GUYS AND THE CITIZENS BY GIVING THEM MORE
07:09:01PM MONEY AT OUR EXPENSE.
07:09:03PM TOTAL BS.
07:09:04PM SORRY.
07:09:05PM >> CHRISTIE WINSTON.
07:09:11PM I LIVE AT 316 INNER HARBOR CIRCLE ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
07:09:17PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:09:19PM I SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING.
07:09:21PM I AM NOT AGAINST HOTELS.
07:09:22PM TAMPA MAY NEED HOTELS.
07:09:24PM THIS PLOT OF LAND IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THE HOTEL.
07:09:27PM I MOVED TO HARBOUR ISLAND 20 YEARS AGO FOR THE SERENE SET,
07:09:32PM TO BE SO CLOSE TO THE URBAN CORE OF DOWNTOWN.
07:09:34PM IT HAS GOTTEN SO BUSY, I MISS THE DAYS OF MORE QUIET, BUT I
07:09:39PM AM HAPPY FOR OUR GROWTH.
07:09:41PM BUT A HOTEL IS JUST LIKE WE SAID BEFORE, IT IS NOT
07:09:45PM COMPATIBLE.
07:09:45PM OUR SIDE OF KNIGHTS RUN IS NOT HIGH-RISE.
07:09:49PM THE OTHER SIDE IS HIGH-RISE.
07:09:52PM PLAZA AND ALL THE OTHER HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS ARE CREATING A
07:09:56PM LOT OF TRAFFIC AND THE HOTEL WILL MAKE IT WORSE FOR PEOPLE
07:09:58PM WHO ARE IN THOSE BUILDINGS.
07:10:00PM WE HAVE AT LEAST 12 HOTELS AND PROBABLY IN A ONE-MILE RADIUS
07:10:06PM FROM AMALIE, CONVENTION CENTER, ETC.
07:10:10PM AND MULTIPLE OF THEM ARE MARRIOTTS.
07:10:13PM THE MARRIOTT THEY WANT TO BUILD IS A SELECT MARRIOTT,
07:10:16PM WHEREAS THE JW AND WATERSIDE ARE ALL PREMIUM AND LUXURY.
07:10:23PM AND WE WERE INITIALLY ON LUXURY AND BOUTIQUE WHICH WE ARE
07:10:28PM NOT GETTING AND THAT IT WOULD BE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
07:10:30PM NO AMENITIES IN THAT HOTEL THAT CONCERN OUR RESIDENTS.
07:10:37PM THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME.
07:10:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:10:39PM >> COUNCILMEMBERS, DR. ROBERT MADALON.
07:10:47PM MARION WAY ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
07:10:50PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:10:51PM I ASK YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THE ZONING WHY CHANGE BY LIBERTY
07:10:55PM GROUP FOR THIS HOTEL.
07:10:56PM I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND FOUR OTHER FAMILY
07:11:00PM MEMBERS WHO ARE ALL REGISTERED VOTERS AT THIS ADDRESS.
07:11:03PM THIS HOTEL IT -- SOME OF THIS IS REDUNDANT.
07:11:06PM I APOLOGIZE.
07:11:07PM THIS HOTEL WILL STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB ONCE YOU CROSS
07:11:12PM THE BRIDGE TO HARBOUR ISLAND.
07:11:13PM TEN-STORY BUILDING ON A POSTAGE STAMP LOT ON MAIN ENTRY WAY
07:11:18PM TO HUNDREDS OF CONDOS AND HOMES.
07:11:20PM I HAVE ATTENDED EVERY MEETING AND WEBINAR ON THIS HOTEL.
07:11:24PM THERE ARE PAID STAFFER SAID IT WOULD NOT INCREASE TRAFFIC
07:11:28PM MORE THAN A RARELY USED BANK BUILDING THAT WAS THERE
07:11:32PM PREVIOUSLY.
07:11:33PM I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
07:11:33PM TO COMPARE THAT BANK TO 145-ROOM, 24-HOUR HOTEL WITH A
07:11:38PM RESTAURANT, MEETINGS, SUPPLIERS, WASTE MANAGEMENT AND ETC.
07:11:43PM IS INCORRECT.
07:11:44PM I FIRST BOUGHT A CONDO ON HARBOR ISLANDS IN 1987.
07:11:49PM MY WIFE AND I BUILT ONE OF THE FIRST HOMES THERE IN 1992 AND
07:11:53PM RAISED OUR FAMILY THERE.
07:11:55PM WE HAVE SEEN MANY CHANGES IN AND AROUND THE AREA, BUT WE
07:11:59PM FEEL THAT NONE WILL BE MORE DETRIMENTAL TO LIFE ON HARBOUR
07:12:04PM ISLAND THAN CONTINUE HOTEL.
07:12:05PM IT WILL NOT BENEFIT THE THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS OF HARBOUR
07:12:09PM ISLAND.
07:12:09PM IT WILL BE HARMFUL TO THEM.
07:12:11PM THE DEVELOPER HAVE PURCHASED A SMALL LOT AND WANTS TO
07:12:14PM MAXIMIZE HIS INVESTMENT; HOWEVER, THE HUNDREDS OF HOMES AND
07:12:18PM CONDO OWNERS BEHIND THE GATES ALSO WANT TO MAINTAIN THEIR
07:12:22PM CURRENT ENTRY WAY AND VISTA AND MAXIMIZE THEIR INVESTMENT.
07:12:26PM THESE TWO THINGS ARE NOT COMPATIBLE.
07:12:28PM THANK YOU.
07:12:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:12:30PM >> GOOD EVENING.
07:12:37PM TIM SPONSIER, THE VICE PRESIDENT OF LODGING DEVELOPMENT FOR
07:12:43PM MARRIOTT INTERNATIONAL.
07:12:45PM I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS TONIGHT.
07:12:47PM I WATCHED AND LISTENED TO THE FIRST HEARING AS WELL AS BEING
07:12:50PM HERE TONIGHT.
07:12:51PM WITH HAVING 30 BRANDS WITHIN MARRIOTT, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY
07:12:54PM IT GETS A BIT CONFUSING ABOUT WHAT THIS AC HOTEL BRAND IS
07:12:58PM ALL ABOUT.
07:12:59PM LET ME JUST SAY AND START WITH WHAT IT IS NOT.
07:13:01PM IT IS NOT THE BIG CONVENTION HOTEL LIKE YOU HAVE WITH THE JW
07:13:06PM MARRIOTT.
07:13:06PM IT IS NOT A SELECT SERVICE HOTEL LIKE THE RESIDENCE INN OR
07:13:10PM THE COURTYARD IT DOWNTOWN.
07:13:12PM NOT THE FULL SERVICE LUXURY HOE FELL LIKE THE ADDITION.
07:13:15PM IT IS A LIFESTYLE HOTEL THAT IS FOCUSED ON EUROPEAN MODERN
07:13:20PM DESIGN.
07:13:20PM EVERY AC IS UNIQUE IN ITS EXTERIOR AND PUBLIC SPACE IN ORDER
07:13:27PM TO FIT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:13:28PM INTO THE COMMUNITY.
07:13:29PM AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAVE 200 OPEN AROUND THE WORLD.
07:13:32PM 65% OF THEIR COMPETITORS ARE BOUTIQUE OR LUXURY HOTELS.
07:13:36PM SO IT SORT OF FITS THAT HYBRID IN THE MIDDLE.
07:13:39PM NOW THE BRANDING OF THIS HOTEL IS NOT JUST SOMETHING -- NOT
07:13:44PM JUST A HIM WITH.
07:13:45PM IT IS NOT SPECULATIVE.
07:13:46PM MARRIOTT IS FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE A STRONG PRESENCE.
07:13:52PM WITH 30 BRANDS, WE HAVE A LOT OF CHOICES AND A LOT OF
07:13:55PM FANTASTIC OWNERS INCLUDING LIBERTY.
07:13:57PM WE WORKED WITH THEM.
07:13:59PM THEY COLLABORATED WITH US TO CREATE AN UNIQUE HOTEL THAT CAN
07:14:04PM FIT IN -- WHAT WE BELIEVE THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY.
07:14:06PM YES, IT IS DESIGNED FOR THOSE WHO ARE LOCAL FOR THEIR
07:14:09PM FRIENDS AND FAMILY TO STAY.
07:14:11PM COME OVER, HAVE A DRINK, IT HAVE A BITE TO EAT.
07:14:14PM AND NOT THE BIG CONVENTION HOTEL.
07:14:16PM THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
07:14:17PM AND LASTLY I WILL SAY THIS, IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO MOVE
07:14:21PM FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, LIBERTY IS PREPARED TO MOVE
07:14:23PM FORWARD AND BUILD THIS HOTEL.
07:14:25PM IT WILL NOT JUST SIT THERE.
07:14:27PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:14:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:14:28PM >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS SUSAN DOYLE.
07:14:37PM I LIVE AT 948 HEMINGWAY CIRCLE.
07:14:41PM AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:14:43PM I AM TRYING TO LIMIT MY TIME SO I WROTE EVERYTHING DOWN.
07:14:47PM I ALSO SPOKE AT THE MAY 12 MEETING.
07:14:49PM AND ANYWAY, I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MY HUSBAND AND DAUGHTER WHO
07:14:54PM ARE ALSO REGISTERED VOTERS.
07:14:55PM I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED TO ACTUALLY BE HERE.
07:14:59PM LIKE OTHERS WHO HAVE SAID TONIGHT.
07:15:03PM YOU KNOW, IT -- I AM WONDER BEING THE MESSAGE IT SENDS NOT
07:15:07PM JUST THE CHARLIE TOBINS, BUT TO OTHER DEVELOPERS AND OTHER
07:15:11PM RESIDENTS OF HARBOUR ISLAND WHEN SOMEONE CAN MANEUVER A
07:15:16PM MEDIATION AND THREATEN A LAWSUIT AND GET ANOTHER HEARING SIX
07:15:19PM MONTHS LATER.
07:15:20PM I AM NOT A POLITICALLY NAIVE PERSON EITHER.
07:15:25PM I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE --
07:15:42PM [INAUDIBLE]
07:15:43PM -- SUBSTANTIAL CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY AND THREATENS THE
07:15:46PM SAFETY AND LIVABILITY OF THE NEARBY 2,000 RESIDENTS.
07:15:50PM OUR COMMUNITY SERVES SEVERAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN THE AREA AND
07:15:53PM SCHOOL BUSES ARRIVE AT THE GATE AT LEAST FOUR TIMES A DAY
07:15:58PM AND THOSE CHILDREN AND THE PARENTS WHO WAIT FOR THEM IN
07:16:01PM CARS, OKAY.
07:16:02PM THEIR SAFETY WILL BE AT RISK IF THIS -- IF THIS TRANSIENT
07:16:07PM TYPE HOTEL IS ALLOWED.
07:16:08PM LESS THAN A BLOCK AWAY.
07:16:10PM APPROXIMATELY 40 YEARS AGO, HARBOUR ISLAND WAS FORMED AND
07:16:15PM DESPITE THE PLANS AT THAT TIME TO CREATE A LARGELY
07:16:18PM COMMERCIAL HUB, THESE PLANS WERE UNREALIZED.
07:16:21PM AND THE CITY, NEEDING TAX REVENUES, ALLOWED DEVELOPERS TO
07:16:26PM BUILD THE LITTLE HOAs THAT EXIST WITHIN HARBOUR ISLAND.
07:16:31PM WE SUPPORTED THE DOWNTOWN WHEN THERE WAS EMPTY STOREFRONTS
07:16:38PM AND VACANT LOTS.
07:16:39PM IT WAS OUR REVENUES.
07:16:40PM IN ESSENCE, WE CREATED THE ZONING ORGANICALLY FOR SOUTH OF
07:16:48PM KNIGHTS RUN AVENUE.
07:16:49PM WE WELCOME THE RIVERWALK.
07:16:53PM WE WELCOME WATER STREET.
07:16:54PM AND WE WELCOME THE COMPLETE OVERHAUL OF AMALIE AND NOW THE
07:17:00PM CONVENTION CENTER.
07:17:01PM AND EVEN MORE PROBABLY COMING.
07:17:03PM YOU ARE OUR OMBUDSMAN, SERVE TO PROTECT THE CITY RESIDENTS
07:17:12PM AND OUR COMMUNITIES AND DID YOU SO ON MAY 12.
07:17:14PM YOU PROTECTED US.
07:17:16PM AND YOU PROTECTED FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS INCOMPATIBLE.
07:17:19PM ONCE AGAIN, I ASK YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
07:17:22PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:17:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:17:26PM >> HI, EVERYONE, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
07:17:32PM OLIVER SANDRY.
07:17:35PM I LIVE ON HARBOUR ISLAND, AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:17:39PM MY FIANCEE AND I HAVE BEEN SAVING UP TO LIVE IN HARBOUR
07:17:44PM ISLAND.
07:17:44PM THE NEXT FUTURE IS TO HAVE CHILDREN.
07:17:47PM WE SEE HOW SAFE IT IS FOR ALL THE CHILDREN, IT REMINDS US
07:17:51PM THIS IS WHERE WE SHOULD STAY AND RAISE OUR FAMILY.
07:17:53PM WHEN I LOOK TO SEE KIDS BEING DROPPED OFF SOMEWHERE --
07:17:57PM APOLOGIZE THIS IS REDUNDANT.
07:17:59PM KIDS BEING DROPPED OFF OUTSIDE WAITING AT THE STOP SIGN, I
07:18:03PM WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE AROUND THEM ARE SAFE AND OUR
07:18:06PM FUTURE KIDS ARE SAFE.
07:18:07PM I AM VERY YOUNG -- A VERY YOUNG HOMEOWNER.
07:18:11PM PLEASE DO NOT TAINT THE DREAM I HAVE THAT WORKED SO HARD
07:18:15PM FOR.
07:18:15PM I SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND MY FIANCEE.
07:18:18PM THANK YOU.
07:18:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:18:23PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:18:29PM MY NAME IS MATT GONZALEZ AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:18:32PM I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT WITH 717 PARKING.
07:18:35PM AND I'M HERE IN REPRESENT STATION OF 717 PARKING, A CARDI
07:18:41PM REAL ESTATE COMPANY AND JASON AND JOHN ACARDI.
07:18:46PM AS A LARGE PROPERTY OWNER IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND PARKING
07:18:50PM SERVICE PROVIDER FOR OVER 30 YEARS, WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS
07:18:53PM OUR SUPPORT FOR LIBERTY GROUP AND THEIR AC HOTEL DEVELOPMENT
07:18:57PM IN HARBOUR ISLAND.
07:18:58PM WE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH LIBERTY GROUP FOR MANY
07:19:01PM YEARS ON SEVERAL OF THEIR LOCAL PROJECTS.
07:19:03PM MOST RECENT LEAP THE DUAL BRAND AND HILTON AND CHANDSIDE,
07:19:08PM MIND YOU ANOTHER DENSELY POPULATED RESIDENTIAL AREA.
07:19:12PM LIBERTY GROUP IS NOBODY FOR HIGH-QUALITY DEVELOPMENTS WITH A
07:19:20PM EMESIS ON COMMUNITY AND LIFESTYLE.
07:19:23PM THEY CONSIDERED THE COMMUNITY WITHIN EACH DEVELOPMENT
07:19:26PM DESIGN.
07:19:26PM OUR ORGANIZATION HAS SUCCESSFULLY PROVIDED THEM WITH
07:19:29PM PARKING, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, AND SERVICES TO ACHIEVE
07:19:32PM OPTIMAL MOBILITY FOR EACH PROJECT.
07:19:35PM OUR INTENT WOULD BE THE SAME WITH THE A C HOTEL.
07:19:38PM NOT ONLY WILL THIS DEVELOPMENT STIMULATE THE LOCAL ECONOMY
07:19:43PM IN MANY WAYS, LET'S BE VERY CLEAR ON THE DESIGN.
07:19:47PM THIS IS NOT A MOTEL SIX.
07:19:49PM NOR IS IT AN EXPANSIVE CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL, PREDICATED
07:19:54PM ON HIGH VOLUME.
07:19:55PM THIS IS A HOTEL OF BOUTIQUE IN NATURE.
07:20:01PM WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THIS DESIGN IS EXACTLY WHAT THE AREA
07:20:06PM NEEDS TO SUPPORT, NOT ONLY THE CURRENT BUT FUTURE GROWTH.
07:20:11PM WITH THE HOTEL'S BOUTIQUE NATURE ALIGNING WITH THE
07:20:15PM SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
07:20:16PM TO DENY THIS TYPE OF PROJECT WOULD NOT ONLY STUNT OUR CITY'S
07:20:22PM GROWTH BUT WILL ALSO DISCOURAGE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
07:20:26PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.
07:20:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:20:30PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEN.
07:20:38PM MY NAME IS DR. NARAJA, AND I AM A PRACTICING PHYSICIAN OF
07:20:46PM DIFFERENT HOSPITALS IN TAMPA INCLUDING TAMPA GENERAL
07:20:48PM HOSPITAL.
07:20:48PM I WAS NOT SWORN IN SO -- CAN I STILL --
07:20:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE IN THIS CHAMBER THAT IS GOING TO
07:20:55PM SPEAK AND HAVEN'T BEEN SWORN IN, WILL YOU PLEASE RISE AND
07:21:00PM RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
07:21:01PM [SWEARING IN]
07:21:12PM >> I SWEAR THIS IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
07:21:16PM >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
07:21:17PM >> COUNCILMEN, I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT MYSELF, BUT YOU HEARD
07:21:20PM FROM ALL THE RESIDENTS.
07:21:21PM I THINK THE MAJOR CONCERN I HAVE ALONG WITH OTHERS IS
07:21:24PM TRAFFIC AND SAFETY.
07:21:25PM AS A PRACTICING PHYSICIAN, I MOVED TO TAMPA ABOUT TEN YEARS
07:21:30PM AGO.
07:21:31PM AND I CHOSE HARBOUR ISLAND AS A SINGLE MOTHER WITH A
07:21:35PM NINE-YEAR-OLD MAINLY FOR SAFETY REASONS.
07:21:37PM I WOULD GET CALLED INTO THE HOSPITAL AND I FELT SAFE THAT I
07:21:41PM WAS LEAVING MY SON IN A VERY SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:21:44PM AND WE WAIT FOR THE BUS OUTSIDE LIKE THE OTHER RESIDENTS
07:21:47PM SAID, AND, OF COURSE, HE HAS GROWN AND HE IS IN COLLEGE NOW.
07:21:52PM AND IT WAS A VERY HAPPY LIFESTYLE WE HAD.
07:21:55PM AS A PHYSICIAN, I AM REALLY CONCERNED COMING FROM HOSPITAL
07:22:01PM TO MY HOME.
07:22:02PM IT HAS TAKEN ME LATELY ABOUT 30 MINUTES WITH THE NEW
07:22:06PM DEVELOPMENT OF THE AMERICAN SOCIAL AND MANY TIMES ON FRIDAY
07:22:11PM EVENING WHEN I AM ON CALL, I CAN'T EVEN LEAVE FROM MY HOME
07:22:15PM TO THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC CONDITION.
07:22:17PM WHEN COMING TODAY, I WAS 30 MINUTES LATE BECAUSE OF THE
07:22:21PM LIGHTNING GAME.
07:22:22PM AND I HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH CHANNEL DRIVE AND COME
07:22:25PM AROUND TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, 30 MINUTES LATE.
07:22:28PM SO AS YOU CAN SEE, EVEN WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT, THERE
07:22:32PM IS SO MUCH TRAFFIC.
07:22:32PM AND THIS IS REALLY IMPACTING OUR LIFESTYLE.
07:22:36PM AND I HAVE MANY COLLEAGUES WHO ARE VERY HESITANT TO MOVE TO
07:22:40PM HARBOUR ISLAND AND THE MAIN CONCERN THEY SAY IS JUST TOO
07:22:43PM MUCH TRAFFIC AND IT IS BECOMING VERY DOWNTOWN NATURE.
07:22:47PM AND LIKE THE OTHER RESIDENTS SAID, WHEN I CROSS AND COME TO
07:22:52PM THE GATES, IT IS A RELIEF.
07:22:53PM I AM IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT AND THIS IS OUR HOME.
07:22:56PM AND I HUMBLY REQUEST AND -- FOR MY PROFESSION AND OTHER
07:23:02PM PHYSICIANS WHO ARE LIVING IN HARBOUR ISLAND THAT THE TRAFFIC
07:23:08PM WILL PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN HOW WE DO OUR DAY-TO-DAY WORK AT
07:23:14PM THE HOSPITAL AND BEING ON CALL AND SO FORTH AND FOR THE
07:23:16PM SAFETY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I WOULD HUMBLY ASK THAT YOU TURN
07:23:21PM THIS REQUEST TO BUILD THIS HOTEL DENIED AND -- AND GO ALONG
07:23:30PM WELL RESIDENTS OF HARBOUR ISLAND TO KEEP THIS -- TO KEEP OUR
07:23:36PM NEIGHBORHOOD SAFE AND ENJOYABLE LIKE WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD.
07:23:41PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:23:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:23:44PM >> GOOD EVENING.
07:23:49PM MY NAME IS MIKE GRATS.
07:23:53PM 935 HARBOR BAY DRIVE, AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:23:58PM FOR THE RECORD RECORDS, RECENTLY THE ASSOCIATION WITH
07:24:01PM MEMBERS FROM THE NORTH, SOUTH AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES
07:24:05PM VOTED UNANIMOUSLY AGAINST THIS PROJECT.
07:24:07PM IT IS ON RECORD.
07:24:08PM AS I PRESENTED LAST TIME, THE AREA THAT USES KNIGHTS RUN IS
07:24:16PM 90% RESIDENTIAL.
07:24:18PM MADE UP TEN NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE NORTH AND 11 NEIGHBORHOODS
07:24:20PM TO THE SOUTH.
07:24:21PM IN MY DUTY OF HIXA, I WAS A HOTEL DEVELOPER.
07:24:26PM I WAS HERE TWO WEEKS BEFORE WHEN WE RECEIVED UNANIMOUS
07:24:29PM APPROVAL FOR A HOTEL OUTSIDE MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
07:24:34PM THE NEIGHBORS WERE FOR THIS HOTEL.
07:24:36PM AND I CAN SAY MORE TO THIS HOTEL.
07:24:40PM IN 2001, OUR MARRIOTT BRAND HOTEL WAS NAMED NATIONWIDE
07:24:45PM OPENING HOTEL OF THE YEAR FOR THAT BRAND.
07:24:47PM WITH RESPECT TO THIS HOTEL, IT IS NOT A BOUTIQUE HOTEL.
07:24:52PM IT IS AN AC HOTEL IN AN URBAN AREA WITH ROOMS PROBABLY LEN
07:24:57PM THAN 300 SQUARE FEET.
07:24:59PM IT IS NOT A PLACE WHERE WE WOULD EVER PLACE A HOTEL.
07:25:02PM IT IS TOO CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL AND DOESN'T FIT THE
07:25:06PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:25:06PM IN ADDITION TO THE JOBS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT, THESE ARE
07:25:10PM PEOPLE WHO WILL HAVE TO COMMUTE ON TO HARBOUR ISLAND ADDING
07:25:15PM TO THE TRAFFIC.
07:25:15PM NOT PROVIDING JOBS FOR HARBOUR ISLAND RESIDENTS.
07:25:18PM I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME FOR A SECOND TIME THIS EVENING AS YOU
07:25:21PM DID LAST TIME AND HOPE YOU VOTE AGAINST THE PROJECT.
07:25:24PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:25:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:25:26PM >> HELLO.
07:25:31PM CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?
07:25:33PM I AM DEBRA ELINGER.
07:25:35PM I LIVE AT ABBYS WAY ON HARBOUR ISLAND, AND I ACTUALLY WANT
07:25:41PM TO REPEAT A I WILL WILL BIT WHAT THE PROCEEDING SPEAKER
07:25:44PM SAID.
07:25:45PM I AM IN PRIVATE EQUITY AND I DO I A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT WORK.
07:25:49PM I WORK WITH FOLKS LIKE THE APPLICANT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT
07:25:52PM THEIR OBJECTIVE, OF COURSE, IS TO GET A MAXIMIZE RETURN ON
07:25:57PM INVESTMENT.
07:25:57PM SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES THAT
07:26:01PM COULD BE CONSIDERED INSTEAD OF THIS RATHER UGLY HOTEL THAT
07:26:05PM AS EVERYBODY SAID DOES NOT FIT IN.
07:26:07PM THEY COULD HAVE DONE A 50-ROOM BOUTIQUE HOTEL AND STILL GOT
07:26:12PM A VERY NICE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
07:26:14PM WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW IS AN OVERSIZED RETURN
07:26:18PM ON INVESTMENT.
07:26:19PM I DO THINK THERE ARE OPTIONS THAT THE CITY SHOULD CONSIDER.
07:26:23PM I KNOW THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR MORE HOTEL ROOMS, BUT THIS IS
07:26:29PM THE WRONG PLACE FOR IT.
07:26:30PM ON CHANNELSIDE WHICH IS ACTUALLY CLOSER, EASIER, HAVE MORE
07:26:34PM RESTAURANTS, IS MORE CONNECTED TO AMALIE AND THE CONVENTION
07:26:40PM CENTER.
07:26:40PM THAT IS WHERE A HOTEL LIKE THIS SHOULD BE.
07:26:42PM IT IS NOT A BOUTIQUE HOTEL.
07:26:44PM IT IS NOT IN CHANNELSIDE.
07:26:46PM IT IS BEING PROPOSED IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
07:26:48PM SO I DO WANT TO JUST TALK OF THE MISCHARACTERIZATION.
07:26:52PM I HAVE BEEN A LITTLE CONCERNED HERE.
07:26:54PM FIRST IS THE GATES WERE NOT MOVED IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE
07:26:59PM COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS.
07:27:00PM THE GATES WERE MOVED IN ORDER TO ENABLE RESIDENTS TO GET IN
07:27:04PM AND OUT AND NOT BACK UP INTO THE REST OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
07:27:09PM SO TO SAY IT WAS DONE IN ORDER FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IS
07:27:14PM ABSOLUTE RUBBISH IN MY VIEW.
07:27:16PM I DON'T THIS I THAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT WAS PROPERLY
07:27:19PM ASSESSED.
07:27:20PM AND I DO THINK THE FACT IT WAS PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPER IS
07:27:24PM A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
07:27:25PM I UNDERSTAND THAT IS A NORMAL PROCEDURE, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A
07:27:30PM DEVELOPER PAYING FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY, YOU ARE GOING TO GET
07:27:33PM WHAT YOU GET.
07:27:33PM I DON'T THINK IT IS CONSIDERED APPROPRIATELY UBER AND LYFT
07:27:37PM AND ALL THE SHARED CAR THAT FLOAT AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
07:27:40PM NOW.
07:27:41PM I SUSPECT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DONE DURING COVID-19, IT WAS
07:27:44PM CERTAINLY DONE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN TRAFFIC COUNTS
07:27:47PM WERE DOWN.
07:27:47PM AND NOW WE ARE EXPERIENCING SOME VERY BAD TRAFFIC AS MY
07:27:51PM NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID.
07:27:52PM I WOULD ADD THAT THE AC HOTEL LABEL IS A LITTLE BIT OF A RED
07:27:57PM HERRING BECAUSE NOT WHAT YOU ARE APPROVING HERE.
07:27:59PM YOU ARE A I PROVING OVER 100 ROOMS IN A HOTEL.
07:28:03PM AND THEY COULD CHANGE THE LABEL LATER IF THEY WANTED TO.
07:28:07PM SO LAST, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT STILL A PROPOSED HOTEL THAT
07:28:12PM IS UGLY, OVERSIZED, MISPLACED ON A SMALL LOT, AND BASICALLY
07:28:17PM IT IS TEN POUNDS OF SHIT IN A FIVE POUND BAG.
07:28:22PM [LAUGHTER]
07:28:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT -- THAT WAS UNCALLED FOR, MA'AM.
07:28:30PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEN, COUNCILWOMAN, MY NAME IS BRUCE
07:28:42PM WITH McGIBBON HOSPITALITY AND I'M HERE TO TALK IN SUPPORT OF
07:28:47PM THE PROJECT WE ARE DISCUSSING.
07:28:48PM ONE POINT OF CLARITY TO MAKE IS THIS IS AN UPSCALE HOTEL.
07:28:54PM NOT AN EXTENDED STAY ALREADY IT IS A MOTEL.
07:28:57PM IT WILL CHARGE RATES THAT WILL ATTRACT QUALITY, QUALITY
07:29:01PM GUESTS THAT WILL PARTAKE IN THE GREAT AMENITIES THAT THE
07:29:04PM CITY OF TAMPA HAVE PUT AVAILABLE TO ALL OF US.
07:29:06PM IT WAS AVAILABLE TO THE RESIDENTS OF HARBOUR ISLAND.
07:29:09PM THAT IS ONE OF THE GREAT PARTS OF AC IS WE BUILD AMENITIES
07:29:13PM THAT CAN BE PARTAKEN FROM THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA.
07:29:17PM WE WANT THAT.
07:29:17PM MOST HOTELS WANT TO HAVE A MIX OF WHERE THE LOCALS ARE.
07:29:22PM THEY WANT TOP HAVE A MIX OF LOCALS AND VISITORS.
07:29:25PM IT IS WHAT MAKES HOTELS GREAT.
07:29:27PM I WANT TO ATTEST TO ONE THING.
07:29:30PM WE DO MANAGE A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS FOR LIBERTY TODAY.
07:29:33PM THAT WAS ACTUALLY A CHOICE BY THE FAMILY.
07:29:37PM THE SHAW FAMILY.
07:29:38PM JUST ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
07:29:39PM THEY USED TO MANAGE THEIR OWN HOTELS.
07:29:41PM THEY CHOSE -- THEY WANTED GREAT EXPERIENCES FOR GUESTS.
07:29:44PM GREAT EXPERIENCES FOR THEIR ASSOCIATES.
07:29:46PM SO THEY ASKED McGIBBON TO PARTNER WITH THEM AND TODAY WE DO
07:29:53PM THAT.
07:29:53PM I CAN TELL THAT YOU SHAW AND HIS FAMILY DO GIVE BACK TO THE
07:29:56PM COMMUNITY.
07:29:57PM THEY DO CARE ABOUT THEIR ASSOCIATES.
07:29:59PM McKIBBON IS THE NAME DOING BUSINESS IN THE TAMPA AREA FOR
07:30:05PM 30 YEARS.
07:30:06PM WE ARE DEVELOPERS.
07:30:06PM WE ARE OWNERS.
07:30:07PM TODAY WE MANAGE OVER 13 HOTELS IN THE GREATER TAMPA BAY
07:30:11PM AREA.
07:30:11PM THE SERVICE THAT WE DO, WE GIVE HUNDREDS OF HOURS.
07:30:15PM AND LITERALLY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO COMMUNITY
07:30:18PM SERVICE BECAUSE WE CARE.
07:30:19PM WE EVEN HAVE SOMETHING WE DO FOR OUR ASSOCIATES WHERE IF
07:30:22PM THEY GIVE THEIR OWN TIME AND REGISTER WITH THIS PARTICULAR
07:30:26PM THIRD-PARTY INDEPENDENT GROUP, WE DONATE DOLLARS OF OUR
07:30:30PM FOUNDATION MONEY FOR THE HOURS THAT THEY SERVE.
07:30:33PM I CAN SPEAK FIRST HAND THE JOBS THAT WILL BE CREATED IN A
07:30:39PM HOTEL ARE UNIQUE.
07:30:40PM AND HERE IS WHY.
07:30:41PM IT GIVES ACCESS TO INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY NOT EVEN HAVE A
07:30:46PM COLLEGE DEGREE OR A HIGH SCHOOL DEGREE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A
07:30:49PM CAREER THAT CAN PAY AS WELL AND THEY CAN BE PROUD OF.
07:30:53PM I HAVE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS NOW FOR 32 YEARS AND I AM A
07:30:57PM PRODUCT OF THAT.
07:30:58PM CAME OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND FOUND MYSELF IN A SITUATION
07:31:01PM WHERE I NEEDED TO GET A JOB.
07:31:03PM I GOT A JOB AT A MARRIOTT HOTEL.
07:31:05PM WORKING AT THE TIME FOR MARRIOTT.
07:31:08PM AND HERE I AM TODAY PRESIDENT OF McKIBBON HOSPITALITY.
07:31:15PM SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF THIS BECAUSE OF THE
07:31:17PM BENEFITS IT WOULD BE FOR THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE
07:31:20PM SPEAKING -- YOU WOULD BE SHOWING THAT AN INDIVIDUAL
07:31:25PM LIKE PUNET SHAW THAT GIVES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WILL TAKE
07:31:28PM THE TIME TO GIVE BACK TO ALL PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT
07:31:33PM WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF IT.
07:31:34PM THANK YOU.
07:31:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:31:36PM >> GOOD EVENING, LADY AND GENTLEMEN OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
07:31:47PM i'M BRIAN TAUB.
07:31:49PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:31:50PM RESIDE 921 ANCHORAGE ROAD.
07:31:53PM I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY SEVERAL RESIDENTS TO APPEAR HERE THIS
07:31:57PM EVENING BECAUSE I AM IN AN UNIQUE QUALIFIED POSITION IN THAT
07:32:02PM I HAVE DEVELOPED TWO COMMUNITIES ON HARBOUR ISLAND AND LIVE
07:32:05PM ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
07:32:08PM SO I AM SENSE I HAVE TO BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE AND THE
07:32:12PM RESIDENTIAL SIDE.
07:32:12PM ONE OF THE COMMUNITIES SAN TROPEI, THE OTHER ONE THE KEYS.
07:32:18PM I BOUGHT THE KEYS PROPERTY FROM A PREVIOUS DEVELOPER WHO HAD
07:32:21PM IT APPROVED FOR A HIGH-RISE CONDOMINIUM.
07:32:23PM FOR MORE THAN DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT I WOUND UP
07:32:28PM PUTTING ON IT.
07:32:28PM I HAVE 35 TOWN HOMES ON THAT SAME SITE.
07:32:31PM PART OF THE REASON WHY I HAVE DONE THAT IS BECAUSE I
07:32:34PM LISTENED TO THE NEIGHBORS AND THE SENSITIVITY TO IT THE
07:32:37PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:32:38PM I -- MY MOST RECENT PROJECT THAT I COMPLETED WAS ON BAYSHORE
07:32:43PM BOULEVARD CALLED "THE SANCTUARY."
07:32:46PM THAT PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY ZONED FOR 43 RESIDENCES AND I
07:32:50PM PUT ON 15 CONDOMINIUMS, AGAIN, BECAUSE I LISTENED TO THE
07:32:56PM NEIGHBORS AND THE RESIDENTS AND THEIR SENSITIVITY.
07:32:59PM IT IS UNUSUAL FOR ME TO BE HERE THIS EVENING IN THE CAPACITY
07:33:02PM I'M HERE SPEAKING OUT AGAINST A DEVELOPMENT.
07:33:06PM I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE APPLICANT FOR MY OWN DEVELOPMENTS.
07:33:09PM I HAVE AND BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IN TAMPA, ST. PETE AND
07:33:18PM CLEARWATER.
07:33:18PM I AM PROUD TO SAY I RECEIVED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL EACH AND
07:33:22PM EVERY TIME FOR ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS.
07:33:24PM I WAS THE APPLICANT AND I DID NOT HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO DO SO.
07:33:27PM I FEEL THAT I WAS SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT BECAUSE I DID
07:33:32PM RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS COMPATIBLE WITH THE
07:33:34PM SURROUNDING AREA.
07:33:35PM THE APPLICANTS INDICATED COMPATIBILITY WAS DEALING WITH
07:33:41PM MOSTLY HEIGHT.
07:33:43PM OUR LAND USE PERSON INDICATED COMPATIBILITY CONSISTENT OF
07:33:49PM MANY OTHER AREAS.
07:33:50PM AND THE ONE THAT I THINK THE RESIDENTS ARE MOST CONCERNED
07:33:54PM ABOUT IS INTENSITY OF THAT MUCH SPACE ON THAT SIZE PROPERTY,
07:34:00PM SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO TRAFFIC.
07:34:02PM THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO
07:34:06PM GENERATE BOTH VEHICULAR, PEDESTRIAN, CREATE CONCERNS FOR
07:34:12PM SAFETY AND WELFARE.
07:34:14PM I CAN TELL YOU THAT IF THERE IS 145 ROOMS.
07:34:18PM AND THERE ARE 145 PEOPLE IN THAT, THIS TIME OF YEAR WHEN THE
07:34:25PM WEATHER IS NICE, ROUGHLY EIGHT MONTHS A YEAR WHEN THE
07:34:29PM WEATHER IS NICE, THERE WILL BE 145 PEDESTRIANS GOING FROM
07:34:33PM THERE TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.
07:34:35PM AND IT WAS POINTED OUT, THIS IS GOING TO BE PEDESTRIAN
07:34:39PM FRIENDLY.
07:34:40PM IT IS ALL WONDERFUL.
07:34:41PM BUT THE AMOUNT OF PEDESTRIANS THAT WILL BE CONFLICTED WITH
07:34:48PM THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC COMING ON AND OFF THE ISLAND WILL BE
07:34:51PM VERY DANGEROUS.
07:34:51PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:34:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:34:53PM MADAM, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, IF I SEE NO ONE ELSE GETTING UP TO
07:35:03PM SPEAK AND GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT, THIS GENTLEMAN HERE WILL BE
07:35:06PM THE LAST PERSON IN CHAMBERS.
07:35:08PM I KNOW WE HAVE OTHERS ONLINE.
07:35:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAVE THEY CHECKED DOWNSTAIRS?
07:35:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TIM TOLD ME NONE DOWNSTAIRS.
07:35:20PM I DO REALIZE WE HAVE SPEAKERS ONLINE, BUT THIS GENTLEMAN
07:35:23PM WILL BE THE LAST ONE TO SPEAK IN CHAMBERS.
07:35:26PM THANK YOU.
07:35:27PM PLEASE PROCEED, MA'AM.
07:35:28PM >> HELLO, I AM KATHY BRANHALT, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF
07:35:35PM SALES AND RETENTION FOR CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATES.
07:35:39PM I'M HERE OF BEHALF THE OWNERS OF OUR COMPANY ANAT SHAW AND
07:35:45PM NO RELATION TO PUNETT.
07:35:48PM WE MANAGED ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
07:35:53PM THE FIRST CONTRACT WE SIGNED ON 1999.
07:35:56PM WE WATCHED THE ISLAND GROW.
07:35:59PM I HAVE BEEN ON THE ISLAND 20 YEARS MYSELF MANAGING AND
07:36:03PM WATCHED THE ISLAND GROW FROM NOTHING IN CERTAIN AREAS TO
07:36:07PM WHAT IT IS TODAY, A BEAUTIFUL, UNIQUE ISLAND THAT IS
07:36:10PM CHERISHED BY THE OWNERS AND.RESIDENTS THAT LIVE AND WORK ON
07:36:14PM THAT ISLAND.
07:36:15PM WE ALSO HAVE OFFICE SPACE.
07:36:16PM WE LEASE OFFICE SPACE AND HAVE FOR 20 YEARS ON HARBOUR
07:36:20PM ISLAND.
07:36:20PM ACTUALLY OVER 20 YEARS.
07:36:22PM OUR OFFICE BUILDING WE CURRENTLY HAVE WEREN'T THERE WHEN WE
07:36:26PM FIRST STARTED WHEN I GOT TO HARBOUR ISLAND OVER 20 YEARS
07:36:29PM AGO.
07:36:31PM IN LOOKING AT THE PLANS AND DRAWING FOR THE HOTEL, IT
07:36:35PM DOESN'T APPEAR TO ME, IN MY OPINION, THAT IT IS IN KEEPING
07:36:38PM WITH WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN HARBOUR ISLAND AESTHETICALLY.
07:36:41PM IT IS MORE OF A COMMERCIAL, NONHARBOUR ISLAND HOMEOWNER
07:36:46PM ASSOCIATION FEEL.
07:36:47PM WE MANAGE HIXSA, SOUTH PIAZZA AND THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD
07:36:54PM ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS INDIVIDUAL BEYOND THE SOUTH
07:36:57PM NEIGHBORHOOD GATES.
07:36:58PM THE RESIDENTS WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH ARE ALL IN OPPOSITION WITH
07:37:02PM US ON THIS PROJECT.
07:37:04PM AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO US AND TAKING THIS
07:37:09PM INTO CONSIDERATION TO DENY THIS PROJECT.
07:37:10PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:37:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:37:13PM >> HOW DO I PUT A PICTURE ON THIS THING?
07:37:23PM >> ON THE ELMO.
07:37:24PM >> THIS WAY?
07:37:26PM >> NO.
07:37:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE ELMO TO YOUR RIGHT.
07:37:28PM >> DOWN OR UP?
07:37:32PM >> SHOWS HERE.
07:37:32PM >> UPSIDE DOWN.
07:37:34PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:37:35PM GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS GUY VAN BALEN.
07:37:39PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:37:41PM I AM PRESIDENT OF HARBORSIDE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION ON
07:37:44PM HARBOUR ISLAND AND THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE SNA, THE BIGGER
07:37:49PM HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION.
07:37:50PM I SPOKE HERE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WITH ALL OF YOU IN
07:37:53PM OPPOSITION, SO I AM NOT GOING TO REPEAT MYSELF.
07:37:55PM I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS PICTURE TODAY BECAUSE WE ARE
07:37:59PM FAMILIAR WITH PHOTO SHOPPING AND SOCIAL NETWORKING HOW
07:38:03PM THINGS CAN LOOK DIFFERENTLY.
07:38:04PM YOU HAVE SEEN PICTURES BY THE APPLICANT AND BIER THAT MAKES
07:38:08PM A VIEW OF STRICTLY THE NORTH SIDE AND NOT THE SOUTH SIDE AND
07:38:11PM EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE IT IS RIGHT THERE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER
07:38:13PM AND THINGS.
07:38:14PM HERE IS A PICTURE THAT CLEARLY SHOWS HARBOUR ISLAND COMING
07:38:18PM FROM THE RESPIRATORY TIP PART OF THE ISLAND OVER AND YOU CAN
07:38:21PM SEE THAT EVERYTHING IS LOW UNTIL YOU GET TO THE OTHER SIDE
07:38:24PM OF KNIGHTS RUN.
07:38:27PM I THINK YOU ARE MISLED WITH SOME OF THE PICTURES PROVIDED BY
07:38:31PM THE PETITIONER AND IN SOME REGARDS BY THE CITY ATTORNEYS
07:38:35PM WHEN THEY PRESENTED THE ORIGINAL THING TO YOU.
07:38:37PM I ALSO HAVE -- IF -- IF THIS WILL SHOW UP.
07:38:42PM THIS IS -- THIS IS TRAFFIC COMING OFF THE ISLAND AT
07:38:46PM APPROXIMATELY 6:42 ON OCTOBER 21.
07:38:50PM A NONLIGHTNING DAY GAME.
07:38:54PM THIS IS EVERYTHING.
07:38:55PM IMAGINE ON A LIGHTNING GAME DAY LIKE TODAY, AS WELL AS
07:39:01PM PUTTING ANOTHER HOTEL AND THINGS OF THAT SORT HOW BAD
07:39:05PM TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE.
07:39:06PM SOMETHING THAT HAVEN'T BEEN BROUGHT UP TONIGHT WHICH I DID
07:39:09PM LAST TIME WAS THE CONSTRUCTION.
07:39:11PM AT THE LAST HEARING, THE PETITIONER INDICATE THAT THEY COULD
07:39:15PM TRY TO KEEP THE CONSTRUCTION ALL WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT.
07:39:18PM THAT IS TO OBVIOUSLY PRETTY MUCH IMPOSSIBLE.
07:39:21PM WE HAVE SEEN CONSTRUCTION THAT TAKE UP THE ROADS.
07:39:24PM THEY SAID THAT THE CONSTRUCTION TIME WOULD BE ABOUT A YEAR
07:39:27PM AND A HALF.
07:39:27PM JUST IMAGINE WHAT WE ARE LEARN ABOUT AFTER THE HOTEL BUILT.
07:39:33PM HOW ABOUT THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.
07:39:35PM THE PARKING ISSUE IS HUGE.
07:39:37PM WE ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PARKING ON THE ISLAND OUTSIDE
07:39:41PM THE GATES.
07:39:42PM PEOPLE FROM THE GAMES TRY TO SNEAK IN THERE AND PARK.
07:39:46PM IMAGINE COMING UP FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THOSE SHORT
07:39:50PM STAFFED BY THE LACK OF PARKING AND A DEFICIT OF ALMOST 25%
07:39:55PM BY THE HOTEL.
07:39:56PM WE KNOW THIS HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON RESIDENTS AND NOT
07:40:00PM COMPATIBLE WITH THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
07:40:02PM PLANNED CHAIRMAN, YOU INDICATED WHEN DEALING WITH THAT
07:40:05PM PICTURE EARLIER TODAY WITH THE YELLOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU
07:40:08PM COULD CUT OFF THIS ONE EGRESS AND INGRESS AREA BY THE HOTEL.
07:40:13PM THAT IS ALSO THE ENTRANCE OF THE ATHLETIC CLUB NOT ONLY USED
07:40:17PM BY PEOPLE OF HASH ISLAND AND DAVIS ISLAND.
07:40:23PM AND YOU WOULD HURT WHAT IS A CORNERSTONE OF THAT AREA
07:40:27PM BECAUSE A TENNIS AND HEALTH CLUB WITH REGARD TO THAT ISSUE.
07:40:31PM FINALLY, THE MEDIATOR.
07:40:33PM I TAKE EXCEPTION TO WHAT THE PETITIONER SAID.
07:40:35PM THE MEDIATOR HAD -- BECAUSE THE CITY AND THE APPLICANT
07:40:38PM WANTED TO GO FORWARD WITH THE -- WITH THE SETTLEMENT
07:40:42PM AGREEMENT BASICALLY PUSH IT ALONG.
07:40:43PM I DON'T BELIEVE HE SAID HE FULLY SUPPORTS THE HOTEL IN
07:40:48PM PLACE.
07:40:48PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:40:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:40:53PM LAST CALL.
07:40:54PM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?
07:41:02PM ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE FIVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ONLINE.
07:41:04PM THAT ARE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
07:41:09PM >>CLERK: CHAIR, WE ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE LOGGED ON PETER
07:41:15PM AND LAWRENCE.
07:41:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
07:41:20PM PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS TO BE SWORN IN.
07:41:23PM [SWEARING IN]
07:41:28PM >> I DO.
07:41:29PM >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
07:41:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHO WISHES TO SPEAK FIRST.
07:41:35PM MR. PRIMACK.
07:41:38PM I WILL LET YOU SPEAK FIRST PLEASE.
07:41:40PM >> I AM FINE WITH THAT.
07:41:41PM MY NAME IS PRIMACK, I AM THE PRESIDENTOF THE SOUTH ASSOCIATION.
07:41:46PM I WILL GIVE THE BRIEFEST COMMENTS.
07:41:50PM I THANK THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
07:41:53PM I THINK THE RESIDENTS HAVE SPOKE WAY BETTER THAN I EVER
07:41:58PM COULD.
07:41:59PM THANK YOU.
07:41:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:42:00PM MR. BRUNDI.
07:42:06PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:42:07PM COUNSELORS, CITRO, MANISCALCO, VIERA, GUDES, MIRANDA,
07:42:21PM HURTAK.
07:42:21PM FORGIVE ME.
07:42:23PM I AM SO PASSIONATE WHAT IS GOING ON NOW.
07:42:25PM MY WIFE AND I MOVED ON TO HARBOUR ISLAND WHEN OUR SON WAS
07:42:30PM BORN SOME 20, SORRY, 30 YEARS AGO.
07:42:35PM WE -- WE WERE ASSURED AT THE TIME THAT THIS WOULD BE A
07:42:40PM RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY NOT A COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY.
07:42:43PM I THINK IF ANYONE HAS TO LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON, ALL THEY
07:42:49PM HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT THE FALSE RENDERINGS OF WHAT HAS BEEN
07:42:56PM PRESENTED BY LIBERTY HOTEL, LIBERTY, YOU KNOW, MANAGEMENT.
07:43:02PM NONE OF THE RENDERING SHOW THE SOUTHGATE, WHICH IS ONLY FEET
07:43:08PM FROM THE -- FROM THE DRIVEWAY THAT GOES IN TO THE HOTEL.
07:43:16PM NONE OF THEM SHOW WHERE -- WHERE THE -- WHERE THE STREET IS
07:43:22PM THAT GOES INTO THE HARBOUR ISLAND ATHLETIC CLUB THAT IS
07:43:26PM SHARED BY THE HOTEL.
07:43:28PM THESE ARE ISSUE THAT ARE GOING TO BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO
07:43:33PM OVERCOME OVER TIME.
07:43:35PM WE HAVE -- YOU KNOW, THE DEFENSE REPRESENTING -- OR THE
07:43:43PM PLAINTIFFS, WHATEVER, REPRESENTING THAT THIS IS A BOUTIQUE
07:43:47PM HOTEL.
07:43:48PM WELL, IT IS A BOUTIQUE HOTEL GOING UP IN HARBOUR ISLAND --
07:43:54PM SORRY, IN -- IN THE -- -- EXCUSE ME.
07:44:02PM IN -- IN ANOTHER AREA OF TAMPA WHERE WE HAVE BOUTIQUE HOTELS
07:44:08PM GOING UP AND, LIKE, 36 UNITS.
07:44:11PM THE HYDE PARK AREA.
07:44:14PM THEY HAVE A BOUTIQUE HOTEL GOING UP THAT WILL BE 36 UNITS ON
07:44:20PM TOP OF THE SWANN HOTEL.
07:44:25PM THAT IS A BOUTIQUE HOTEL.
07:44:27PM 36 UNITS.
07:44:28PM WHERE THEY CAN GET PROFIT.
07:44:31PM THEY CAN HAVE PEOPLE STAY.
07:44:33PM THEY CAN ENJOY THE FACILITIES.
07:44:35PM AND IT WON'T OVERRETURN THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF PARKING
07:44:40PM AND INGRESS AND EGRESS.
07:44:42PM ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IS THE FALSE -- THE
07:44:50PM APPARENTLY FALSE REPRESENTATION MADE BY THE -- THE -- YOU
07:44:57PM KNOW, LIBERTY HOTEL IN THIS CASE.
07:44:59PM WHAT HAVE THEY DONE?
07:45:01PM THEY HAVE SHOWN A HOTEL WITH NO SOUTH GATE.
07:45:06PM WITH NO ACCESS TO THE HARBOUR ISLAND ATHLETIC CLUB.
07:45:14PM EVERY SINGLE RENDITION THEY HAVE GIVEN US HAVE EXCLUDED THAT
07:45:18PM COMPLETELY.
07:45:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:45:20PM THANK YOU.
07:45:21PM >> THANK YOU.
07:45:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CREMER, YOUR TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
07:45:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CREMER, CAN WE FOR THE RECORD HOW MUCH
07:45:47PM TIME YOU REQUESTED FOR REBUTTAL?
07:45:49PM >> 20 MINUTES.
07:45:50PM I DON'T BELIEVE I NEED IT ALL.
07:45:53PM CAN I HAVE I.T. ASSIST ME?
07:45:56PM I NEED MY PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
07:45:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIR, JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU
07:46:02PM CONFIRMED WITH YOUR LEGISLATIVE AIDE NO ONE IS ON THE SECOND
07:46:06PM FLOOR TO SPEAK.
07:46:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS WHAT MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE
07:46:17PM TIM HEBERLIN SAID.
07:46:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN WE POSSIBLY TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK --
07:46:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU REQUESTING A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK?
07:46:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
07:46:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FIVE-MINUTE BREAK.
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8:01:18PM
8:01:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITY COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.
8:01:57PM ROLL CALL.
8:01:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
8:02:01PM >> VIERA?
8:02:01PM MANISCALCO?
8:02:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
8:02:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
8:02:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
8:02:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
8:02:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
8:02:08PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
8:02:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:02:12PM AGAIN, MR. CREMER, YOU'VE GOT 20 MINUTES.
8:02:15PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:02:16PM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
8:02:17PM JAKE CREMER.
8:02:18PM I'LL TURN IT OVER DIRECTLY TO MY EXPERTS AND THEY'LL
8:02:20PM INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
8:02:21PM THANK YOU.
8:02:26PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
8:02:27PM MY NAME IS MICKEY JACOB.
8:02:28PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
8:02:30PM I AM THE ARCHITECT ON THIS PROJECT, AND I RESIDE AT 450
8:02:36PM KNIGHTS RUN AVENUE ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
8:02:39PM AS A LICENSED ARCHITECT FOR 42 YEARS IN THIS COMMUNITY,
8:02:45PM PROJECTS ARE NEVER EASY, AND THIS ONE IS NOT.
8:02:48PM WE HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO LOOK AT HOW THIS BUILDING FITS
8:02:52PM ON THIS SITE, HOW THE SCALE OF THIS BUILDING RESPONDS TO THE
8:02:57PM NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW THE ARCHITECTURE FITS WITH THE BRANDING.
8:03:00PM AND WE'VE CREATED SOME GRAPHICS, ONE OF THEM IN FRONT OF YOU
8:03:05PM TO TRY AND ACCURATELY ILLUSTRATE WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO
8:03:08PM REPRESENT IN OUR DESIGN AND WHAT OUR BUILDING IS.
8:03:11PM WHEN WE DO THESE GRAPHICS AND WE DROP THEM IN ON GOOGLE
8:03:15PM EARTH, WE HAVE TO TAKE DATA POINTS OFF OF GOOGLE EARTH AND
8:03:19PM WE TAKE THOSE DATA POINTS THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THAT FOR THE
8:03:22PM SCALE AND THE SIZE OF WHAT THE STREETS ARE AND THE SITE, AND
8:03:26PM WE DROP THAT INTO OUR THREE-DIMENSIONAL MIDDLE.
8:03:31PM SO EVERYTHING WE DO IS COMPLETELY 100% ACCURATE OF HOW THE
8:03:34PM BUILDING SITS ON THE SITE.
8:03:35PM YOU'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH GRAPHICS THIS EVENING AND IN THE
8:03:38PM PACKAGE THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM THE OPPOSITION THAT HAVE
8:03:45PM TAKEN IMAGES OF MY BUILDING, OUR BUILDING THAT WE'VE DONE
8:03:47PM WITH OUR GROUP, AND IT'S CUT AND PASTED THIS INTO STATIC
8:03:52PM IMAGES OF GOOGLE EARTH.
8:03:53PM THE IMAGES YOU WERE GIVEN ARE OUT OF SCALE, MISLEADING AND
8:03:59PM COMPLETELY INACCURATE AND THEY DON'T REPRESENT WHAT WE'RE
8:04:01PM REALLY DOING.
8:04:02PM I HAVE TO MAINTAIN A STANDARD OF CARE WITH MY LICENSE.
8:04:05PM I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT I GIVE YOU IS ACCURATE AND IT
8:04:11PM REPRESENTS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
8:04:12PM THE GRAPHICS YOU HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE OPPOSITION HAVE NOT
8:04:16PM -- HAVE FAILED TO RECOGNIZE THE STREETSCAPE, THE SIDEWALKS,
8:04:22PM HOW THIS BUILDING SITS ON THE SITE.
8:04:25PM WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THIS BUILDING CAN FIT ON
8:04:29PM THIS SITE AND IT WORKS FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AT THE
8:04:31PM SCALE THAT IT IS.
8:04:32PM WE'VE ALSO WORKED VERY HARD ON THE ARRIVAL AND THE
8:04:35PM DEPARTURE.
8:04:35PM WE WORKED HARD ON HOW TO MAKE THE CURB CUT OFF OF KNIGHTS
8:04:40PM RUN AVENUE THE MAIN FOCUS OF THIS SITE WHERE THE VEHICLES
8:04:44PM COME IN AND COME OUT ON THAT PARTICULAR ACCESS ITSELF.
8:04:47PM WE ALSO WORKED VERY HARD ON MAKING KNIGHTS RUN AVENUE THE
8:04:51PM FRONT DOOR OF THIS BUILDING, AND IT'S BECOME THAT.
8:04:55PM WE'VE CREATED ANOTHER ELEVATED ENTRY THERE THAT REALLY
8:04:58PM INVITES THE PUBLIC IN.
8:04:59PM ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO DO IS MAKE THIS
8:05:03PM BUILDING SOMETHING DIFFERENT, SOMETHING UNIQUE, AND
8:05:05PM SOMETHING WE CAN BE PROUD OF.
8:05:08PM AND THE EXPERTS PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY AND THE MATERIALS
8:05:16PM THEY SUBMITTED TO YOU FOR REVIEW HAVE TAKEN MY GRAPHICS AND
8:05:20PM CUT AND PASTED THEM INTO A STATIC PRINT OF GOOGLE EARTH.
8:05:26PM TO BE BRUTALLY HONEST, IT'S SLOPPY AND INCOMPETENT.
8:05:30PM SO WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD, AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK HARD,
8:05:33PM AND WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN BECAUSE HARBOUR ISLAND IS
8:05:37PM MY NEIGHBORHOOD, TOO.
8:05:38PM THANK YOU.
8:05:40PM >> GOOD EVENING.
8:05:41PM RANDY COEN.
8:05:42PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
8:05:44PM I'M GOING TO BE USING THE ELMO, BUT FOR A MOMENT, LET'S TALK
8:05:49PM ABOUT WHAT WE HEARD.
8:05:50PM WE HAD AN EXPERT TESTIFY FOR THE OPPOSITION THAT BROUGHT UP
8:05:52PM NO LEVEL OF SERVICE ISSUES, NO MITIGATION BEING REQUIRED IN
8:05:56PM THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS.
8:05:59PM ACTUALLY IN A SIDEWAYS MANNER COMMENTED THAT THE LEVELS OF
8:06:02PM SERVICE WERE ACCEPTABLE AT ALL OF THE STUDIED INTERSECTIONS.
8:06:06PM FOR THE RECORD, EACH OF THE DRIVEWAYS, THE ONE ON HARBOUR
8:06:08PM ISLAND THAT ALSO SERVES THE ATHLETIC CLUB, THE ONE ON
8:06:12PM KNIGHTS RUN OPERATE AT LEVEL OF SERVICE A IN THE MORNING,
8:06:15PM LEVEL OF SERVICE B IN THE AFTERNOON WITH THIS HOTEL.
8:06:19PM HARBOUR ISLAND AND KNIGHTS RUN OPERATES AT LEVEL OF SERVICE
8:06:21PM B IN THE MORNING, LEVEL OF SERVICE C IN THE AFTERNOON.
8:06:24PM WE HAVE NO TECHNICAL INFORMATION THAT THERE'S AN ADVERSE
8:06:28PM TRANSPORTATION IMPACT RELATED TO THIS PROJECT BASED UPON THE
8:06:31PM CRITERIA REQUIRED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE TRAFFIC
8:06:34PM STUDY.
8:06:34PM WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT LATER.
8:06:37PM I WANT TO GO TO THE ELMO.
8:06:39PM THIS IS ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT WAS PREPARED BY THEIR EXPERT
8:06:44PM WITNESS.
8:06:45PM TAKE A LOOK AT A COUPLE OF THINGS FOR ME, IF YOU WILL.
8:06:48PM THE MOST IMPORTANT BEING AUGUST 2021.
8:06:51PM THAT WAS THE INITIAL TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS DONE FOR THIS
8:06:54PM HOTEL WHEN IT WAS 180 ROOMS, NOT THE 150-ROOM HOTEL THAT WAS
8:06:59PM BROUGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.
8:07:01PM PAGE 314 MEANS THIS WAS THE APPENDIX, WHICH MEANS THIS IS A
8:07:06PM VERY PRELIMINARY TRIP GENERATION TABLE THAT WAS PRODUCED
8:07:10PM BEFORE THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS ACTUALLY EVEN COMPLETED.
8:07:13PM SO WE HAVE SOME INTERESTING NUMBERS THERE.
8:07:17PM LET'S GO TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED
8:07:21PM BY THE CITY FOR THE 150-ROOM HOTEL WITH THE EXISTING
8:07:26PM DEVELOPMENT CLARIFIED AS WHAT'S ACTUALLY APPROVED IN THE
8:07:29PM ZONING, WHICH IS A DRIVE-IN BANK.
8:07:32PM YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCES.
8:07:34PM 26 ADDITIONAL CARS IN THE MORNING, A FEW LESS CARS IN THE
8:07:38PM AFTERNOON.
8:07:38PM THAT'S COMPARING A DRIVE-IN BANK, WHICH IS APPROVED ON THE
8:07:41PM PROPERTY, AS OPPOSED TO THE HOTEL THAT'S PROPOSED ON THE
8:07:44PM PROPERTY.
8:07:45PM THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL SUN BANK WALK-UP
8:07:50PM FACILITY THAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY WHEN IT WAS CONVERTED FROM
8:07:54PM A SALES CENTER.
8:07:55PM MOVE TO ONE MORE.
8:08:01PM SLIGHTLY REDUCED VOLUMES YET BECAUSE WE WENT TO 145 ROOMS
8:08:05PM THROUGH THE MEDIATION PROCESS.
8:08:07PM SO I CANNOT TELL YOU OR EXPLAIN WHY THEIR EXPERT CHOSE TO
8:08:13PM USE A PRELIMINARY TABLE OUT OF AN OUTDATED TRAFFIC STUDY,
8:08:16PM BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
8:08:18PM LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE EXPERT DECIDED TO SPEND
8:08:27PM AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT TRIP GENERATION.
8:08:30PM THAT'S GREAT.
8:08:31PM I.T. DOES A WONDERFUL JOB OF TRIP GENERATION.
8:08:34PM HAS 177 LAND USES IN IT THAT ARE EXAMINED.
8:08:38PM VIRTUALLY EVERY ONE OF THOSE LAND USES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
8:08:41PM A FEW RESIDENTIAL AND A COUPLE OF OFFICE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT
8:08:45PM SETS OF PEAK HOURS.
8:08:46PM THEY HAVE THE PEAK HOUR OF THE GENERATOR, WHICH IS WHAT'S
8:08:50PM TALKED ABOUT HERE, AND THE ADJACENT STREET PEAK HOUR.
8:08:55PM CITY REQUIREMENTS ARE WE DO A TRAFFIC STUDY BASED UPON
8:08:57PM THE A.M. ADJACENT STREET PEAK HOUR BETWEEN 7 AND 9, AND THE
8:09:02PM SAME IN THE AFTERNOON 4 TO 6.
8:09:04PM WHY DO WE DO IT THAT WAY?
8:09:06PM THAT IS WHEN YOU HAVE THE HIGHEST CUMULATIVE TOTAL OF
8:09:10PM TRAFFIC ON A ROADWAY OR AT AN INTERSECTION.
8:09:14PM DO A STUDY AT 9:00 IN THE EVENING I THINK WE WOULD GET A
8:09:17PM PRETTY DAMN GOOD LEVEL OF SERVICE OUT OF AN INTERSECTION.
8:09:20PM MORE IMPORTANTLY, SAYS THIS IS NOT COMPATIBLE.
8:09:24PM THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MINUTE.
8:09:26PM THIS IS THE BLOCK LINE OF RESIDENTIAL.
8:09:30PM THIS IS THE ULTIMATE PEAK OF THE HOTEL.
8:09:32PM THEY DON'T OCCUR AT THE SAME TIME.
8:09:34PM THEY OCCUR ALMOST TWO HOURS DIFFERENT.
8:09:36PM I'D SAY THAT'S PRETTY DARN COMPATIBLE WHEN YOU'VE GOT ONE
8:09:39PM USE THAT HAS A HIGH HERE AND ANOTHER USE THAT HAS A HIGH
8:09:43PM HERE, SO THEY DON'T ADD TOGETHER.
8:09:45PM I WOULD SAY THAT'S COMPATIBLE.
8:09:46PM LET'S GO TO THE FINAL ONE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT FOR RIGHT
8:09:54PM NOW.
8:09:55PM PARKING WAIVER.
8:09:59PM GREAT ARTICLE.
8:10:01PM BEEN BEFORE YOU BEFORE TALKING ABOUT PARKING WAIVERS FOR
8:10:04PM HOTELS.
8:10:04PM EXPERT INDICATED THERE WAS NO TECHNICAL INFORMATION PROVIDED
8:10:08PM TO YOU.
8:10:09PM DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE DOUBLETREE
8:10:13PM REZONING, 1881 WAS BEFORE YOU AND APPROVED WITH A WAIVER OF
8:10:16PM RIGHT AROUND 20%.
8:10:18PM VERY COMPATIBLE TO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE.
8:10:21PM THAT IS A BUSINESS HOTEL IN WESTSHORE.
8:10:23PM EMBASSY SUITES SAME THING.
8:10:26PM REZ 20-35, BUSINESS HOTEL ON WESTSHORE COMPARABLE WAIVER.
8:10:31PM EVIDENCE.
8:10:36PM THIS IS THE EMBASSY SUITES WITH THE EXPANDED NUMBER OF
8:10:40PM ROOMS, PICTURE OF THE TOP DECK OF THE PARKING, SUN RISE, IF
8:10:44PM I HAD TO WAIT UNTIL, IN FACT, THE SUN CAME UP ENOUGH SO I
8:10:47PM COULD TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH, THAT IS THE PEAK PERIOD OF PARKING
8:10:50PM AT A HOTEL IS FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.
8:10:53PM THEY ARE NOT EVEN USING THE TOP DECK OF THEIR GARAGE.
8:10:56PM I WOULD SAY THEIR WAIVER IS APPROPRIATE.
8:10:58PM DOUBLETREE ROCKY POINT, HOTEL ROOMS HAVE BEEN CONVERTED.
8:11:07PM WAIVER IS IN PLACE.
8:11:08PM AGAIN, SUNRISE, UNFORTUNATELY, WISH IT WAS SUNSET, BUT AS
8:11:14PM YOU CAN SEE, AMPLE PARKING LEFT AND THEY HAVE A SIMILAR
8:11:16PM WAIVER.
8:11:17PM BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS WAIVE OVER 60 PARKING SPACES,
8:11:20PM SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN WHAT'S WAIVED HERE.
8:11:22PM SO I BELIEVE THERE IS TECHNICAL INFORMATION PROVIDED TO YOU
8:11:25PM TO JUSTIFY THOSE PARKING WAIVERS.
8:11:28PM WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
8:11:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
8:11:32PM THANK YOU.
8:11:37PM >> IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
8:11:46PM >> GOOD EVENING.
8:11:47PM MY NAME IS CYNTHIA SPIDELL WITH STEARNS WEAVER, 401 EAST
8:11:51PM JACKSON STREET IN TAMPA.
8:11:52PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
8:11:53PM AICP PLANNER 17 YEARS IN PLANNING EXPERIENCE IN BOTH PUBLIC
8:11:58PM AND PRIVATE SECTORS.
8:12:00PM OF PARTICULAR REVELS TO THIS ITEM, I WAS DRI COORDINATOR AT
8:12:03PM PASCO COUNTY AND I HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH AT LEAST 25
8:12:05PM DEVELOPMENTS OF REGIONAL IMPACT. THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE,
8:12:09PM I REALLY FOCUSED ON THE PROJECT'S CONSISTENCY AND
8:12:12PM COMPATIBILITY IN THE OVERALL PLANNING ENVIRONMENT, LOOKED AT
8:12:14PM THE DRI.
8:12:16PM I'M NOT GOING TO REHASH ANY OF THAT UNLESS THERE ARE
8:12:19PM SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
8:12:22PM I KNOW YOU READ MY PLANNING REPORT THOROUGHLY, THE ONE FROM
8:12:25PM MAY.
8:12:26PM MY FOCUS AND REVIEW CONSISTED OF THE 40 YEARS OF ZONING
8:12:29PM APPROVALS ON ALL OF HARBOUR ISLAND.
8:12:31PM THIS SLIDE IS 2004 VERSUS 2020.
8:12:35PM IN 2004, THIS SITE WAS REZONED FROM PDA MIXED USE COMMERCIAL
8:12:41PM RESIDENTIAL TO PD DRIVE-IN WINDOW BANK.
8:12:45PM SO THIS IS VERY RELEVANT BECAUSE IN 2004, THAT PRIOR
8:12:49PM APPROVAL ALLOWED FOR A HOTEL UP TO 158 FEET.
8:12:52PM AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SLIDES, WHAT HAS REALLY CHANGED FROM
8:12:56PM 2004, IF ANYTHING, HAS BECOME MORE URBAN AND DEVELOPED.
8:13:00PM THEREFORE ONE REALLY CANNOT CLAIM THAT A PERMITTED HOTEL UP
8:13:03PM TO 158 FEET WAS COMPATIBLE IN 2004, BUT IT ISN'T ANYMORE IN
8:13:09PM 2020 OR 2022.
8:13:10PM SO NEXT SLIDE.
8:13:15PM SLIDE -- AS A RESULT OF THE 2004 DOWN-ZONING, THE PROPERTY
8:13:18PM BECAME AN ISLAND ON AN ISLAND.
8:13:21PM IT IS COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY ZONING APPROVALS THAT ALLOW
8:13:24PM HOTELS UP TO 158 FEET.
8:13:26PM THIS IS WHAT WE CALL IN PLANNING AS REVERSE SPOT ZONING.
8:13:29PM REVERSE SPOT ZONING IS A PLANNING TERM WHERE A PROPERTY
8:13:33PM SUBJECT TO A ZONING APPLICATION IS TREATED DIFFERENTLY BY
8:13:36PM THE LOCAL JURISDICTION THAN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
8:13:39PM IT IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE IT VIOLATES A LANDOWNER'S PROPERTY
8:13:43PM RIGHTS BY GIVING SUCH LANDOWNER, FEWER OR LESSER RIGHTS THAN
8:13:47PM EVERYONE AROUND IT.
8:13:48PM AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM OUR GRAPHIC, OUR PROPERTY IS
8:13:50PM SURROUNDED BY APPROVALS FOR MORE DENSITY AND INTENSITY.
8:13:54PM THERE IS LEGAL PRECEDENCE THAT SUPPORTS THAT REVERSE SPOT
8:13:58PM ZONING IS ILLEGAL.
8:14:00PM THE OVERALL PLANNING TAKEAWAY HERE IS THAT THE CURRENT AND
8:14:03PM HISTORIC REZONINGS DATING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL FOR HARBOUR
8:14:06PM ISLAND HAS ALWAYS ALLOWED HOTELS AS A PERMITTED USE.
8:14:10PM SO -- AND THEN I WANT TO GO TO REBUT THE SPECIFIC EXPERT
8:14:14PM TESTIMONY.
8:14:14PM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT COMPATIBILITY, AND IT IS MY
8:14:17PM PLANNING OPINION THAT THAT COMPATIBILITY DETERMINATION WAS
8:14:20PM ALREADY MADE BY CITY COUNCIL WHEN THEY APPROVED THE DRI AND
8:14:23PM THE ZONING FOR THE HARBOUR ISLAND THEY CLEARLY ALLOW
8:14:28PM RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL TO COEXIST ANYWHERE ON THE
8:14:33PM ISLAND.
8:14:33PM MR. SMOLKER SAID HOTEL HAS NEVER BEEN APPROVED.
8:14:37PM THAT'S NOT TRUE.
8:14:37PM AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MR. POWELL WHO IS A FELLOW
8:14:40PM PLANNING COLLEAGUE, HIS REPORT IS JUST WRONG.
8:14:44PM IT DOES NOT TELL YOU THE WHOLE STORY, AND IT SELECTIVELY
8:14:49PM PICKS ONLY ONE PERSPECTIVE AND CONVENIENTLY IGNORES ALL
8:14:53PM REGULATORY APPROVALS THAT APPLY TO HARBOUR ISLAND.
8:14:55PM IN CONCLUSION, MY PLANNING OPINION CONTINUES TO REMAIN AS IT
8:14:58PM WAS THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE AND THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT OF
8:15:01PM THE PROPERTY AS A HOTEL IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING
8:15:04PM AND BUILT AND REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT.
8:15:06PM AND FURTHER, AFTER HAVING REVIEWED THE DRI AND ALL OF THE
8:15:09PM CURRENT HISTORIC REZONINGS ON HARBOUR ISLAND, THE PLANNING
8:15:12PM DOCUMENTS DO NOT SUPPORT A LINE OF DEMARCATION AT KNIGHTS
8:15:15PM RUN.
8:15:15PM INSTEAD, THEY REINFORCE THAT THIS PROPERTY IS BEING TREATED
8:15:19PM DIFFERENTLY.
8:15:20PM WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
8:15:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
8:15:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU TALK ABOUT THE -- THAT THIS PROPERTY
8:15:27PM BEING TREATED DIFFERENTLY, BUT WOULDN'T THE PROPERTY OWNER
8:15:31PM IN 2004 HAVE REQUESTED THAT DOWNZONING?
8:15:34PM >> SO THAT IS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
8:15:37PM I SPENT MONTHS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY ANYBODY WOULD GO
8:15:39PM FROM PDA TO PD, AND I THINK WE TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT IT
8:15:43PM EXTENSIVELY AS WELL.
8:15:45PM I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DID THAT.
8:15:47PM THEY COULD HAVE COME IN WITH AN INCREMENTAL SITE PLAN AT
8:15:51PM THAT TIME.
8:15:51PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN 2004.
8:15:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: INSTEAD OF THE CITY TAKING IT AWAY, THE
8:15:56PM PRIOR OWNER TOOK IT AWAY.
8:15:58PM >> NO, I THINK IT WAS THE CITY BECAUSE THERE IS A NUANCE IN
8:16:01PM CHAPTER 27 THAT REQUIRES ANY SITE UNDER 20 TO BE PD.
8:16:04PM IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE ZONINGS THROUGH THE '80s AND '90s
8:16:07PM THEY WERE CONSISTENT.
8:16:08PM YOU HAD A DRI.
8:16:08PM YOU HAD A MASTER PLAN AND YOU HAD A REZONING THAT HAD
8:16:11PM DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS FOR ALL OF HARBOUR ISLAND.
8:16:13PM THE ORDINANCES SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT ANY ZONING HAS TO
8:16:17PM COMPLY WITH THESE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS.
8:16:19PM THAT WAS CONSISTENT IN ALL OF YOUR ORDINANCES THROUGH THE
8:16:22PM '90s.
8:16:23PM ALL OF A SUDDEN IN 2004 THAT LANGUAGE IS DROPPED, THE
8:16:26PM STANDARD ORDINANCE LANGUAGE IS CHANGED, AND NOW ALL OF A
8:16:28PM SUDDEN WE HAVE A PD SITE PLAN.
8:16:31PM AND I THINK IT'S A NUANCE OF YOUR CODE THAT REQUIRES
8:16:34PM ENGINEERED SITE PLANS AT THE TIME OF ZONING IF YOU'RE PD.
8:16:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE WANT TO GET A STAFF OPINION ON THAT OR
8:16:46PM JUST ALLOW REBUTTAL THEN?
8:16:48PM STAFF, IS THERE ANY RESPONSE TO THAT?
8:17:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PUBLIC COMMENT IS FINISHED.
8:17:15PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:17:18PM SO THE '04 REZONING DID REZONE TO PD.
8:17:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: BUT IT WAS SOMEBODY APPLIED TO HAVE IT
8:17:25PM DOWNZONED THEN, RIGHT?
8:17:26PM THE APPLICANT AT THE TIME, DO YOU KNOW ANY HISTORY?
8:17:29PM >>ANNIE BARNES: I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF WHY THEY REZONED
8:17:31PM IT SPECIFICALLY TO THAT.
8:17:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. GUDES IS LOOKING AT ME, JUST FOR THE
8:17:40PM RECORD, THOSE ARE THE FOUR YEARS I MISSED.
8:17:42PM [ LAUGHTER ]
8:17:42PM FROM 2003 TO 2007.
8:17:46PM IN FACT, I WAS IN MICHIGAN JUDGING HORSE RACING FOR THE
8:17:48PM STATE OF MICHIGAN.
8:17:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
8:18:00PM >> MR. CHAIR, I WAS NOT QUITE FINISHED WITH MY PRESENTATION.
8:18:04PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
8:18:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS JUST ASKING ANY MORE COMMENTS OR
8:18:08PM QUESTIONS FOR HER.
8:18:09PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:18:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. BARNES, BASICALLY, WE DON'T HAVE AN
8:18:12PM ANSWER BASICALLY, RIGHT?
8:18:17PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, NO.
8:18:19PM I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE AS TO WHY THE ZONING WAS
8:18:22PM SPECIFICALLY CHANGED, BUT IT WAS SPECIFICALLY CHANGED FOR
8:18:28PM THE BANK DRIVE-IN.
8:18:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
8:18:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK A FOLLOW-UP?
8:18:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
8:18:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: TO THE OTHER COMMENT, AND SHE CAN REPEAT IT,
8:18:39PM SORRY, IN CASE I DON'T GET IT EXACTLY RIGHT, BUT THERE'S
8:18:43PM SOMETHING, MS. BARNES, COULD YOU RESPOND TO THIS PART OF IT
8:18:46PM THAT SHE SAID SOMETHING LIKE THERE'S A PECULIAR LANGUAGE IN
8:18:52PM OUR CODE THAT FORCES SOMEONE TO DO A PD AND SO THEREFORE
8:18:58PM IT'S THE CITY'S FAULT NOT THE PRIOR APPLICANT'S FAULT THAT
8:19:01PM THIS IS DOWN ZONED LIKE THIS.
8:19:03PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:19:04PM SO WHEN YOU DO A PD REZONING, IT'S SITE PLAN SPECIFIC.
8:19:10PM SO THAT HAS TO BE PROVIDED AT THE TIME.
8:19:11PM I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT NECESSARILY IS THE CITY'S FAULT.
8:19:14PM MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN EXPLAIN FURTHER.
8:19:18PM >> NO, MY ONLY POINT THERE, GO TO SECTION 27, I'M NOT SURE
8:19:22PM EXACTLY WHEN THAT CAME IN PLACE, SAID THAT YOU CAN'T BE PDA
8:19:26PM IF YOU'RE MORE THAN 20 ACRES.
8:19:28PM SO AS I WAS TRYING TO FIND A REASON WHY ANYBODY WOULD GO
8:19:31PM FROM PDA TO PD, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS BECAUSE A BANK, THE
8:19:40PM DRIVE WINDOW.
8:19:41PM I'M SPECULATING.
8:19:41PM I DON'T KNOW.
8:19:43PM I DO KNOW YOUR CODE SAYS LESS THAN 20 ACRES, YOU HAVE TO BE
8:19:46PM PD, NOT PDA.
8:19:47PM PERHAPS THAT WAS ONE OF THE FACTORS.
8:19:49PM BUT I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I WASN'T THERE EITHER.
8:19:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
8:19:56PM MR. CREMER.
8:20:02PM >> COUNCIL, JAKE CREMER AGAIN FOR THE RECORD.
8:20:05PM I HAVE GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT THAT PRIOR REZONING, ALL THE
8:20:09PM RECORDS.
8:20:09PM IT WAS CONTINUED SEVERAL TIMES.
8:20:11PM IT APPEARS WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT THERE WERE MEMBERS OF THE
8:20:15PM PUBLIC, PERHAPS MEMBERS OF SOME OF THE ASSOCIATIONS ON THE
8:20:17PM ISLAND THAT DIDN'T LIKE THE IDEA OF A DRIVE-THROUGH ON THE
8:20:20PM BANK.
8:20:21PM THAT'S ALL I CAN GLEAN FROM THE RECORD.
8:20:23PM BUT THAT SEEMS TO SUGGEST TO ME THAT THE REASON THAT THEY
8:20:25PM WERE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REZONING WAS SIMPLY TO
8:20:29PM VALIDATE THAT DRIVE-THROUGH.
8:20:33PM AND TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I DON'T THINK WE'RE
8:20:37PM SUGGESTING THAT IT'S THE CITY'S FAULT, PER SE.
8:20:40PM WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING IS THAT THIS EXACT USE AT A TALLER
8:20:45PM HEIGHT WAS CONSISTENT AS A MATTER OF LAW ON HARBOUR ISLAND
8:20:50PM IN 2004.
8:20:51PM AND THE ONLY THING THAT'S HAPPENED SINCE THEN IS THAT THE
8:20:54PM ISLAND HAS GROWN DENSER AND MORE INTENSE.
8:20:56PM AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY PLANNING REASON THAT IT CAN
8:21:00PM BE JUSTIFIED THAT IT COULD BE CONSISTENT BACK AT THAT TIME
8:21:03PM PERIOD BUT NOT NOW.
8:21:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME
8:21:08PM TO DO YOUR REBUTTAL.
8:21:10PM JUST ONE MORE QUESTION.
8:21:11PM MR. COHEN WAS TALKING ABOUT TRAVEL AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS
8:21:14PM FROM THE PUBLIC WAS ABOUT THE U TURN COMING FROM THE EAST.
8:21:20PM COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THAT FROM A TRAFFIC PLANNER POINT OF
8:21:23PM VIEW, PLEASE?
8:21:24PM >> YES.
8:21:25PM AN IMPORTANT KEY IS THE FACT THAT THE ADDRESS OF THIS
8:21:28PM BUILDING WILL BE ON KNIGHTS RUN RATHER THAN HARBOUR ISLAND
8:21:31PM BOULEVARD.
8:21:31PM HOWEVER, IF YOU GO TO ANY OF THE WAY FINDING APPS, YOU WILL
8:21:36PM FIND THEY WILL DIRECT YOU ON THE MOST DIRECT ROUTE TO AN
8:21:39PM ADDRESS.
8:21:40PM THIS IS A PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER.
8:21:43PM THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A NUMBER OF MAJOR TRAFFIC ISSUES IN THE
8:21:47PM PAST WHEN THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS SOMETHING GOING ON,
8:21:50PM AMALIE ARENA HAS SOMETHING GOING ON, THEY BRING THEM DOWN
8:21:54PM TAMPA STREET, DOWN HARBOUR ISLAND AND ONTO THE ISLAND.
8:21:57PM SO THE LIKELIHOOD OF SOME PERSON NOT FAMILIAR WITH TAMPA
8:22:03PM FIGURING OUT THAT THEY COULD USE BENEFICIAL BRIDGE TO COME
8:22:07PM OVER INTO HARBOUR ISLAND, COME ACROSS KNIGHTS RUN, MAKE A
8:22:10PM U-TURN TO COME BACK TO THE HOTEL I FIND TO BE RATHER
8:22:13PM FAR-FETCHED.
8:22:14PM TO BE VERY BLUNT ABOUT IT.
8:22:18PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
8:22:18PM ANYONE WHO IS KNOWLEDGEABLE MAY ATTEMPT TO DO THAT, BUT
8:22:23PM THEY'LL REALIZE THE U TURN IS NOT, IN FACT, SOMETHING THAT
8:22:26PM IS VERY COMFORTABLE TO DO, SO THEY WOULD USE HARBOUR ISLAND
8:22:29PM AS WELL.
8:22:29PM I FIND IT HIGHLY UNLIKELY YOU WOULD HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT
8:22:34PM PERCENTAGE OF MOTORISTS THAT WOULD ATTEMPT THAT PARTICULAR
8:22:36PM ROUTE TO COME TO A HOTEL, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT DO NOT KNOW
8:22:39PM THE LOCATION OF THE HOTEL AND ARE RELYING UPON ANY SORT OF
8:22:43PM GPS.
8:22:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: PART OF THE TESTIMONY FROM THE PUBLIC IS
8:22:46PM THAT CONFIGURATION OF FOUR WAY STOP MAKING U-TURN IS
8:22:51PM UNUSUAL.
8:22:51PM IN YOUR EXPERIENCE --
8:22:52PM >> FOUR-LANE, FOUR-WAY STOP IS UNUSUAL, YES.
8:22:57PM IT'S UNUSUAL, PERIOD.
8:22:58PM IT'S UNUSUAL IN THE WAY IT OPERATES.
8:23:01PM IT'S UNUSUAL IN THE FACT THAT IF A U-TURN IS MADE THERE, ONE
8:23:05PM MUST BE VERY CAUTIOUS.
8:23:06PM NO IFS, ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT THAT.
8:23:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAKE IT A ROUNDABOUT.
8:23:14PM I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
8:23:14PM I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
8:23:16PM I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
8:23:19PM I HAVE USED WAZE.
8:23:21PM I DO USE WAZE.
8:23:23PM BUT I NOTICE WHEN THERE ARE SIGNS THAT MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO
8:23:26PM MAKE A U-TURN OR A LEFT-HAND TURN, WAZE DOES NOT ALLOW YOU
8:23:31PM TO DO THAT.
8:23:33PM I'M JUST ASKING THIS QUESTION.
8:23:35PM BY PUTTING A NO U-TURN SIGN THERE AND MAKING IT KNOWN TO
8:23:41PM WAZE THAT THAT CANNOT BE DONE.
8:23:44PM >> THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD THING TO DO.
8:23:46PM I'D AGREE WITH IT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
8:23:48PM AND I WILL SAY SINCE I'VE DONE ALL THE DRI WORK ON THE
8:23:51PM ISLAND, IT WAS ALWAYS ENVISIONED THAT THIS INTERSECTION, IF
8:23:54PM IT REACHED THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC THAT WARRANTED A TRAFFIC
8:23:58PM SIGNAL, THERE WOULD BE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE.
8:24:00PM UNFORTUNATELY, IT DOES NOT HAVE THE VOLUME TO WARRANT A
8:24:03PM TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THIS POINT NOR WITH THIS PROJECT.
8:24:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
8:24:07PM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
8:24:08PM THERE WAS SOME GOING BACK AND FORTH HERE.
8:24:15PM DO YOU NEED EXTRA TIME?
8:24:17PM >> I'LL DO MY BEST TO WRAP IT UP IN FIVE MINUTES.
8:24:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
8:24:21PM >> THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCIL.
8:24:23PM JAKE CREMER.
8:24:24PM A COUPLE OF CLEANUP ITEMS.
8:24:25PM CONSTRUCTION CAME UP.
8:24:26PM CONSTRUCTION IS NOT A ZONING ITEM.
8:24:28PM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS DEALT WITH LATER AT THE PERMITTING
8:24:30PM PROCESS, AS YOU ALL KNOW.
8:24:32PM I WOULD QUESTION THE MOTIVES OF MR. TALB, THE DEVELOPER WHO
8:24:37PM SO HELPFULLY CAME AND SPOKE TONIGHT.
8:24:39PM MR. TALB ACTUALLY MADE AN OFFER TO MY CLIENT OF $5 MILLION
8:24:41PM CASH TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY IF WE WOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD
8:24:45PM WITH THE HEARING.
8:24:45PM WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU ALL
8:24:49PM TONIGHT.
8:24:50PM THE QUESTION TONIGHT THAT I POSED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
8:24:52PM HEARING IS ARE YOU COMFORTABLE SINGLING OUT THIS ONE
8:24:55PM PROPERTY AND NOT APPLYING THE RULES OF THE GAME THAT HAVE
8:24:58PM EXISTED FOR 35 YEARS ON HARBOUR ISLAND?
8:25:00PM WE HAVE TO REMEMBER WE CAN'T JUST TAKE COUNT OF THE NUMBER
8:25:06PM OF PEOPLE HERE EITHER FOR OR AGAINST.
8:25:10PM HAVE TO RELY ON THE FACTS AND YOUR REGULATIONS THAT HAVE
8:25:13PM BEEN ON THE ISLAND SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY FOR OVER 35
8:25:16PM YEARS.
8:25:17PM THE SMALL BUILDING THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS THE ONLY THING
8:25:19PM THAT CAN BE BUILT ON THIS PROPERTY TODAY, BUT I WOULD ASK
8:25:24PM YOU, DOES THIS ONE-STORY BUILDING AT THE END OF ITS USEFUL
8:25:28PM LIFE LOOK TO YOU LIKE A REASONABLE USE OF LAND IN YOUR URBAN
8:25:33PM CORE SITTING IN THE SHADOWS OF A 21-STORY BUILDING?
8:25:37PM WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT A LINE OF DEMARCATION AT KNIGHTS RUN,
8:25:43PM WHAT THEY ARE REALLY ASKING YOU TO DO IS SINGLE OUT THIS ONE
8:25:46PM PROPERTY.
8:25:48PM THAT'S BECAUSE THE ONLY OTHER UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY SOUTH OF
8:25:52PM KNIGHTS RUN AND OUTSIDE OF THE GATES IS THE ATHLETIC CLUB.
8:26:01PM SO WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT COULD BE BUILT ON THE
8:26:04PM ATHLETIC CLUB TODAY WITHOUT COMING FOR YOUR APPROVAL,
8:26:09PM COUNCIL.
8:26:09PM THIS IS WHAT COULD SURROUND THIS ONE-STORY BUILDING WITHOUT
8:26:15PM COMING TO YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
8:26:18PM ALMOST 1500 UNITS THAT ARE ENTITLED TODAY UNDER THE DRI AND
8:26:25PM THIS SITE COULD UTILIZE THEM IN THE FUTURE.
8:26:29PM CAN YOU IMAGINE THIS AS A ONE-STORY BUILDING, THIS IS WHAT
8:26:32PM YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY.
8:26:37PM FROM SOME PERSPECTIVES YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THE TEN-STORY
8:26:40PM HOTEL, COUNCIL.
8:26:42PM I ALSO WANT TO UNDERSTAND IF YOU'RE A LANDOWNER ON THE
8:26:46PM ISLAND, WHAT SHOULD YOU HAVE KNOWN?
8:26:48PM WHAT WOULD BE ON YOUR TITLE?
8:26:50PM UNLIKE A PD, WHICH, AS WE KNOW, WERE NOT RECORDED.
8:26:56PM SOMETIMES CITIZENS COME BEFORE YOU ALL AND THEY ARE CONFUSED
8:26:58PM BY THAT.
8:26:59PM THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND ZONING.
8:27:01PM DRIs ARE RECORDED.
8:27:02PM THIS WAS ON TITLE.
8:27:03PM EVERYONE WHO PURCHASED PROPERTY WITHIN THE DRI IS ON NOTICE
8:27:06PM THAT THERE IS THIS OVERARCHING DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
8:27:13PM THERE'S ALSO A MASTER DECLARATION.
8:27:15PM THE MASTER DECLARATION WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THINGS CAN AND
8:27:19PM WILL CHANGE OVER TIME.
8:27:20PM THIS IS ON EVERYONE'S TITLE WHO LIVES ON THE ISLAND WHO OWNS
8:27:24PM PROPERTY ON THE ISLAND, COUNCIL.
8:27:49PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU READ SECTION 8?
8:27:54PM >> SECTION 8 SAYS DEVELOPER'S RIGHT TO DEVIATE FROM
8:27:57PM DEVELOPMENT PLAN, NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING CONTAINED IN THIS
8:27:59PM DECLARATION TO THE CONTRARY, DEVELOPER SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT
8:28:02PM IN ITS SOLE DISCRETION TO CHANGE THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT
8:28:05PM PLAN OF THE ISLAND AND MAKES NO PROMISES REGARDING THE
8:28:07PM COMPLETION OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ISLAND WHETHER SET
8:28:09PM FORTH IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR ANY OTHER MANNER.
8:28:12PM DEVELOPER MAY IN THE SOLE DISCRETION CEASE TO ADD PROPERTIES
8:28:14PM TO THIS DECLARATION AND MAY DETERMINE IN SOLE DISCRETION TO
8:28:18PM CHANGE THE USE TO WHICH THE PROPERTY SHALL BE PUT.
8:28:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU'RE SAYING EVERYONE ON THE ISLAND WHO
8:28:29PM OWNS PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE THIS DECLARATION?
8:28:31PM >> YES, SIR.
8:28:34PM THE MASTER ASSOCIATION OF HARBOUR ISLAND.
8:28:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
8:28:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I'LL ALLOW YOU EXTRA
8:28:45PM TIME.
8:28:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT LOOKED LIKE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A
8:28:53PM COVENANT OF BENEFICIAL OR SOMEONE LIKE THAT, RIGHT?
8:28:54PM >> YES, SIR.
8:28:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU'RE SAYING THAT H.I.C.S.A. ADOPTED THAT?
8:28:58PM >> THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE DOCUMENT THAT ESTABLISHES
8:29:01PM H.I.C.S.A.
8:29:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT H.I.C.S.A. WOULD
8:29:05PM USE NOW.
8:29:06PM YOU'RE SAYING IT IS ON THE TITLE, IF SOMEBODY NEW GOES IN
8:29:09PM AND BUYS A HOUSE, THAT THEY HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THAT AS IT
8:29:14PM IS.
8:29:15PM BUT THE DEVELOPER THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IS BENEFICIAL, NOT
8:29:19PM THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS.
8:29:20PM >> THIS IS ON THE DECLARATION OF EVERY TITLE ON THE PROPERTY
8:29:24PM ON THE ISLAND.
8:29:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: BENEFICIAL, WHATEVER THE SUCCESSOR, THEY OWN
8:29:30PM ANY PROPERTY STILL ON HARBOUR ISLAND?
8:29:32PM >> THE SUCCESSOR DOES NOT.
8:29:35PM THERE IS STILL A SUCCESSOR --
8:29:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD ASK LEGAL OR MS. BARNES TO VALIDATE
8:29:42PM OR DISPROVE WHAT MR. CREMER IS SAYING.
8:29:49PM DO WE KNOW ABOUT THIS?
8:29:49PM I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS BEFORE.
8:29:50PM MAYBE SOME PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE DON'T KNOW EITHER.
8:30:10PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:30:11PM SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, ARE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT WHETHER
8:30:19PM OR NOT IT'S ON THE TITLE?
8:30:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE PROPERTY.
8:30:21PM HE JUST READ ME A SECTION.
8:30:24PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY.
8:30:26PM SO I'M ASKING, DO YOU KNOW IF WE KNOW ABOUT THAT?
8:30:29PM IS THAT VALID?
8:30:31PM >>ANNIE BARNES: I KNOW ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT.
8:30:35PM I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT -- I AM UNAWARE THAT IT'S GIVEN
8:30:39PM ON EACH TITLE FOR EACH PROPERTY OWNER.
8:30:41PM IT MAY.
8:30:42PM I'M UNAWARE OF THAT.
8:30:44PM HOWEVER, I AM AWARE OF THE DRI, HARBOUR ISLAND DRI AND WHAT
8:30:48PM ENTITLEMENTS WERE ALLOWED UNDERNEATH THAT DRI.
8:30:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THAT THE ENTITLEMENT?
8:30:56PM >>ANNIE BARNES: LET ME CLARIFY REAL QUICK.
8:30:59PM SO THIS IS WHAT IN YELLOW WAS CUMULATIVE AMOUNT OF WHAT WAS
8:31:10PM DEVELOPED UNDER THE DRI.
8:31:11PM AND THEN WHAT WAS APPROVED UNDER THIS DRI.
8:31:14PM THESE ARE THE ENTITLEMENTS FOR THE WHOLE ISLAND.
8:31:19PM THERE IS THE NOPC TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL 145 UNITS FOR THE
8:31:26PM HOTEL ON TOP OF THAT BLUE HIGHLIGHTED SECTION OF THE HOTEL.
8:31:30PM SO THE ENTITLEMENTS ARE FOR THE WHOLE ISLAND AND THE DRI,
8:31:35PM AND THEN THERE ARE SPECIFIC USES ALLOCATED UNDER EACH
8:31:39PM ZONING.
8:31:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M LEARNING LIKE YOU.
8:31:48PM THAT'S WHY I ASK QUESTIONS.
8:31:49PM >>ANNIE BARNES: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I ANSWERED YOUR
8:31:51PM QUESTION.
8:31:52PM I'M NOT AWARE IF SOMEONE PURCHASES A HOME THAT IT'S ON THEIR
8:31:56PM TITLE.
8:31:56PM IT MIGHT BE.
8:31:57PM I'M NOT SURE.
8:31:57PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
8:31:59PM THANK YOU.
8:32:05PM >> IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
8:32:07PM COUNCIL, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
8:32:16PM YOU KNOW EVERY MEMBER OF OUR TEAM.
8:32:18PM AGAIN, ALL OF US HAVE WORKED ON HOTELS DOWNTOWN.
8:32:21PM ALL OF US HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY.
8:32:24PM PLEASE DON'T LET A HANDFUL OF VOCAL SUPPORTERS WHO ARE
8:32:29PM TRYING TO EXTEND THE BOUNDARIES OF THEIR EXCLUSIVE GATED
8:32:35PM COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF THEIR GATES INTO ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:32:39PM THEY ARE TRYING TO EXTEND THEIR GATES INTO THE NORTH
8:32:44PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:32:49PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
8:32:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE.
8:32:50PM THANK YOU.
8:32:51PM >> IN THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF, I CHECKED THE RECORD THIS
8:32:54PM MORNING, YOU HAD RECEIVED 54 LETTERS OF SUPPORT IN THE LAST
8:32:57PM MONTH AND A HALF.
8:32:58PM THAT WAS OVER 60% OF THE PUBLIC CORRESPONDENCE IN THAT SAME
8:33:01PM AMOUNT OF TIME.
8:33:02PM I THINK WHAT THAT TELLS YOU IS THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING
8:33:06PM RIGHT.
8:33:06PM IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS TO GET HERE, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE
8:33:10PM LOOKING AT THESE DESIGN CHANGES OVER TIME, AND THEY HAVE
8:33:13PM TAKEN THE TIME TO REACH OUT TO YOU ALL, COUNCIL.
8:33:16PM YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS
8:33:18PM PROJECT TWICE.
8:33:19PM AN INDEPENDENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HAS PROPOSED MOVING THIS
8:33:23PM PROJECT FORWARD TO YOU ALL TO CONSIDER TONIGHT.
8:33:25PM SO WITH THAT, I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
8:33:28PM TIME TONIGHT.
8:33:29PM I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.
8:33:31PM THANK YOU.
8:33:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW I RESPECT YOU TREMENDOUSLY.
8:33:36PM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
8:33:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GREAT ATTORNEY.
8:33:38PM DO A GREAT JOB.
8:33:40PM SOMETIMES WE WIN.
8:33:41PM SOMETIMES WE LOSE.
8:33:42PM I WILL SAY IN YOUR ARGUMENTS THINGS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW,
8:33:47PM ASKED LEGAL ABOUT.
8:33:49PM ONE THING I WOULD SAY, ALWAYS BE MINDFUL OF THE PUBLIC.
8:33:54PM ALWAYS BE MINDFUL OF THE PUBLIC.
8:33:56PM [ APPLAUSE ]
8:33:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE.
8:33:58PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
8:33:59PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOWEVER WE DECIDE, YOUR FAVOR OR THEIR
8:34:02PM FAVOR, I'M REMINDED I'M ALWAYS RESPECTFUL OF THE PEOPLE.
8:34:07PM IT'S THEIR COMMUNITY.
8:34:08PM THEY LIVE THERE.
8:34:10PM WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO MOVED IN THAT WANTS TO DO SOMETHING
8:34:13PM THERE AS WELL.
8:34:13PM BY THE SAME TOKEN, YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL.
8:34:15PM ALWAYS BE PROFESSIONAL.
8:34:16PM AGAIN, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK AND SAY AND THEY ARE HERE
8:34:19PM BECAUSE THEY LIVE THERE EVERY DAY.
8:34:21PM SOMETHING NEW COMING IN, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE
8:34:23PM IT'S GOING TO FIT IN WITH THE CHILDREN, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
8:34:25PM EVERYTHING.
8:34:26PM SO HOWEVER THE OUTCOME IS AND I TELL THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM,
8:34:30PM HOWEVER THE OUTCOME, WE STILL HAVE TO GET ALONG AND LIVE.
8:34:33PM SO WE HAVE TO MAKE IT THE BEST WAY WE CAN.
8:34:37PM AGAIN, THERE'S ALWAYS COMPROMISE TILL THE END.
8:34:39PM THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT COUNCILMEN ASK TO LOOK AT, MR.
8:34:43PM SHAW IN REFERENCE TO ANOTHER COMPROMISE ABOUT THINGS.
8:34:45PM WHAT I WANT TO SAY, YOU ARE A GREAT GUY.
8:34:48PM THE LAST COMMENT -- I JUST THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE WENT AHEAD
8:34:52PM AND MADE YOUR POINT AND DRIVE IT HOME.
8:34:54PM ALL RIGHT.
8:34:55PM AGAIN, THANK YOU, SIR.
8:34:56PM >> YES, SIR.
8:34:56PM THANK YOU.
8:34:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
8:35:00PM NO, SIR.
8:35:01PM PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.
8:35:03PM THANK YOU.
8:35:08PM >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
8:35:09PM >> SECOND.
8:35:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:35:13PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
8:35:16PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:35:17PM ANY OPPOSED?
8:35:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND MAYBE
8:35:21PM MS. WELLS WANTS TO GUIDE COUNCIL THROUGH THE PROCESS.
8:35:26PM I BELIEVE YOUR FIRST STEP IS TO ADDRESS THE MAGISTRATE'S
8:35:31PM RECOMMENDATION.
8:35:32PM IS THAT CORRECT, MS. WELLS?
8:35:33PM IT I'M SORRY, I WAS JUST ASKING TO GUIDE COUNCIL THROUGH THE
8:35:40PM PROCESS THAT THE THRESHOLD QUESTION IS TO ADDRESS THE
8:35:43PM MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION BEFORE MOVING FORWARD WITH
8:35:46PM WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
8:35:49PM >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
8:35:51PM CATE WELLS FOR THE RECORD.
8:35:52PM YES, THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS, UNLESS COUNCIL HAS ANY
8:35:55PM OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU CLOSE THE HEARING, WOULD BE TO
8:35:59PM DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO ACCEPT OR REJECT THE SPECIAL
8:36:02PM MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION, REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION, OR
8:36:06PM IF COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING MODIFYING IT, THEN LIBERTY WOULD
8:36:10PM HAVE TO CONSENT TO THOSE MODIFICATIONS.
8:36:13PM IF COUNCIL IS INCLINED TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION, THAT
8:36:18PM WILL THEN TAKE ADDITIONAL STEPS, BECAUSE ONCE YOU ACCEPT THE
8:36:23PM RECOMMENDATION, YOU THEN HAVE TO IMPLEMENT IT.
8:36:25PM AND THE IMPLEMENTATION WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL OF THE
8:36:29PM REZONING ORDINANCE BY PLACING IT ON FIRST READING, FOLLOWED
8:36:33PM BY APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE DRI AND PLACING
8:36:38PM THAT ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING.
8:36:40PM I WILL POINT OUT THAT WITH RESPECT TO YOUR AGENDA, THE
8:36:44PM ORDINANCES ARE SHOWN IN THE REVERSE ORDER.
8:36:47PM BUT IF COUNCIL IS INCLINED TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL
8:36:52PM MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU START WITH
8:36:54PM THE REZONING AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER.
8:36:59PM THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THE AMENDMENT TO THE DRI
8:37:02PM DEVELOPMENT ORDER IS SIMPLY ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT IS BEING
8:37:07PM APPROVED THROUGH THE REZONING.
8:37:09PM IT'S ACKNOWLEDGING THAT MAP H IS AMENDED TO INCREASE THE
8:37:13PM HOTEL ROOMS FROM 550 UP BY ANOTHER 145 UNITS I BELIEVE TO
8:37:20PM 695.
8:37:21PM AND THEN THERE'S SOME OTHER TECHNICAL MODIFICATIONS TO THE
8:37:24PM DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER.
8:37:28PM BY THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER, CERTAIN NATURAL DISASTERS
8:37:32PM ALLOW ALL DEVELOPMENT ORDERS -- ALL DEVELOPMENT PERMITS,
8:37:35PM INCLUDING DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDERS, TO BE EXTENDED FOR A
8:37:40PM PERIOD OF TIME.
8:37:40PM SO THE BUILD-OUT DATE WOULD BE EXTENDED AND THAT DATE IS
8:37:43PM REFLECTED IN THE ORDINANCE.
8:37:44PM SO THIS MODIFICATION IS TAKING CARE OF SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES
8:37:48PM THAT FRANKLY ARE UNRELATED TO THE REZONING, BUT THEY WERE
8:37:52PM TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THEM ALL.
8:37:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
8:37:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK BECAUSE THE FIRST PART OF IT IS
8:38:01PM LEGISLATIVE WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH COMPETENT
8:38:03PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AS TO WHY WE MADE A CERTAIN MOTION,
8:38:06PM CORRECT?
8:38:07PM >>CATE WELLS: WITH RESPECT TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
8:38:10PM RECOMMENDATION, COUNCIL CAN APPROVE IT OR DENY IT.
8:38:14PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY.
8:38:15PM IT IS A LEGISLATIVE DECISION.
8:38:16PM YOU JUST KNOW IN MAKING THAT DECISION YOU'RE NOT LIMITED.
8:38:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD WE NOT EXPLAIN WHY OR WE JUST DON'T
8:38:22PM HAVE TO?
8:38:24PM >>CATE WELLS: I DEFER TO COUNCIL.
8:38:25PM AS LEGISLATIVE DECISION YOU DON'T HAVE TO CITE COMPETENT
8:38:31PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN ACCEPTING OR REJECTING THE
8:38:34PM RECOMMENDATION.
8:38:34PM IF YOU WERE TO ACCEPT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
8:38:37PM RECOMMENDATION, THEN WHEN YOU APPROVE THE ORDINANCE ON THE
8:38:42PM REZONING, YOU CAN GO THROUGH THAT CRITERIA.
8:38:45PM YOU CAN JUST READ THE TITLE IF YOU WISH.
8:38:47PM AGAIN, TONIGHT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE REMAINDER OF
8:38:51PM THE REZONING HEARINGS ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING.
8:38:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL ASK THIS.
8:38:58PM BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, ANYBODY HAS ANY MORE QUESTIONS, IF
8:39:02PM ANY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS ANY MORE QUESTIONS, SAY IT NOW SO WE
8:39:05PM DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TO REOPEN.
8:39:08PM ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
8:39:10PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
8:39:13PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
8:39:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL TAKE A STAB AT IT.
8:39:24PM IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, GIVE SOME THOUGHTS ON THIS ISSUE.
8:39:29PM I VOTED FOR THIS THE FIRST TIME.
8:39:31PM I WAS ONE OF TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO VOTED FOR THIS.
8:39:34PM WHAT I SAID ORIGINALLY AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.
8:39:36PM IT'S SIMPLISTIC BUT TRUE IN THESE THINGS.
8:39:40PM WHENEVER WE HAVE A DENIAL ON SOMETHING, IT IS LIKE A STOOL
8:39:43PM AND YOU'VE GOT TO FIND LEGS ON IT.
8:39:45PM I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, I DON'T SEE THE LEGS HERE TO SUPPORT, AS
8:39:48PM FOR ME IN MY HOUSE, SO TO SPEAK, A STOOL OF DENIAL FROM A
8:39:52PM LEGAL PERSPECTIVE.
8:39:53PM I GET IT 110% WITH REGARDS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:39:57PM IF I LIVED THERE, I WOULD GO, WHAT'S GOING ON?
8:39:59PM WHAT'S THIS ABOUT, ET CETERA.
8:40:01PM BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN LEGAL STANDARDS THAT ARE BINDING IN AN
8:40:06PM ISSUE LIKE THIS.
8:40:07PM WHEN I TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, ESPECIALLY WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT
8:40:10PM NOW AFTER HEARING FROM THE MAGISTRATE, THIS IS THE LAST
8:40:14PM CHANCE WE HAVE BEFORE THIS TRAIN LEAVES THE STATION, RIGHT?
8:40:20PM AND WHEN IT LEAVES, THERE'S NO COMING BACK, BY AND LARGE,
8:40:24PM THERE'S NO COMING BACK.
8:40:25PM AND WHEN I TAKE A LOOK AT THE STAFF REPORTS THAT ARE VERY,
8:40:30PM VERY RELEVANT IN A CASE LIKE THIS, AGAIN, I SPEAK FOR MYSELF
8:40:35PM AND I DON'T QUESTION ANYBODY ELSE'S MOTIVES OR ANYTHING.
8:40:38PM AS FOR MYSELF, IF I WAS TO VOTE NO AND TELL THE NEIGHBORHOOD
8:40:42PM HERE, WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS, IN MY OPINION I
8:40:47PM WOULD BE WRITING A POLITICAL CHECHNYA CASH THAT'S GOING TO
8:40:50PM BOUNCE.
8:40:50PM IT'S GOING TO BOUNCE RELATIVELY SOONER OR LATER.
8:40:53PM AS FOR ME IN TERMS OF HOW I SEE THINGS, I DON'T LIKE TO DO
8:40:56PM THAT.
8:40:57PM SO IF I MAY, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO ACCEPT THE SPECIAL
8:41:00PM MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION.
8:41:04PM IS THAT ALL I HAVE TO SAY IN TERMS OF THE MOTION?
8:41:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S A LEGISLATIVE MATTER.
8:41:16PM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
8:41:19PM I HAVE TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
8:41:20PM I'M IN A VERY WEIRD POSITION.
8:41:23PM IF YOU WISH TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE RECORD, IF IT WOULD
8:41:29PM SUPPORT YOUR POSITION, THE STANDARD FOR LEGISLATIVE MATTER
8:41:34PM IS IT'S FAIRLY DEBATABLE.
8:41:36PM CALLED A FAIRLY DEBATABLE STANDARD IF REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN
8:41:39PM DISAGREE.
8:41:40PM AS LONG AS THERE IS SOMETHING THAT THE COURT CAN LOOK AT IF
8:41:43PM THIS IS EVER CHALLENGED WITHIN THE RECORD IN THE COURSE OF
8:41:45PM THIS HEARING THAT REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE TO SUPPORT
8:41:47PM THAT DECISION, IT SHOULD BE UPHELD UNDER THAT STANDARD.
8:41:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL SAY AGAIN, FINESSE IT IF NEED BE.
8:41:54PM WE HAVE POSITIVE STAFF REPORTS ON THIS DISCUSSED AND ALREADY
8:41:56PM PUT IN THE RECORD PREVIOUSLY DURING THE HEARINGS.
8:41:58PM WE HAVE THE MAGISTRATE'S FINDINGS, I'LL CITE THAT BASICALLY
8:42:03PM AND THOSE CAN BE MOVED TO AMEND IF I GET FURTHER SUPPORT.
8:42:06PM THERE YOU GO.
8:42:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
8:42:14PM IS THERE A SECOND?
8:42:15PM IS THERE A SECOND?
8:42:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, I'M GOING TO SECOND THE MOTION
8:42:27PM AND SEE WHERE IT GOES.
8:42:34PM I ALWAYS DEAL WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND I ALWAYS FEEL FOR
8:42:39PM THEM, BUT IN THE END, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO WIN.
8:42:44PM IN THE END, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAND
8:42:48PM THE CHALLENGE BECAUSE THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO SUE AND
8:42:52PM WE'RE GOING TO LOSE.
8:42:55PM THAT'S WHY I ASKED COUNCIL IN REFERENCE TO THE DRI PORTION
8:43:02PM THAT CONCERNS ME, READING THOSE DOCUMENTS.
8:43:07PM AND WHAT THE MAGISTRATE HAS RULED, WE'VE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD
8:43:13PM BEFORE, AND THIS IS A HARD BATTLE FOR COUNCILMEN WHEN WE'VE
8:43:18PM GOT A MAGISTRATE WHO'S RULED.
8:43:21PM I'LL GIVE YOU THE SECOND.
8:43:24PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING, SIR, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU THE
8:43:25PM SECOND.
8:43:25PM YES, MR. SHELBY.
8:43:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, JUST SO THAT THE RECORD IS CLEAR,
8:43:30PM THE MAGISTRATE, THIS IS THE FIRST PART OF THE 70.51 PROCESS,
8:43:37PM THE FLUEDRA PROCESS.
8:43:38PM WHAT'S COMING TO YOU IS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE MAGISTRATE.
8:43:42PM IT'S NOT A RULING, DEPENDING ON WHAT COUNCIL DOES, IT WOULD
8:43:45PM GO BACK TO A SECOND PART WHERE HE WOULD PUT ON A DIFFERENT
8:43:49PM HAT.
8:43:49PM CLEAR FOR THE RECORD.
8:43:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HE GAVE THE RECOMMENDATION.
8:43:52PM THANK YOU, SIR.
8:43:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
8:43:55PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:43:57PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
8:43:57PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
8:44:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
8:44:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
8:44:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
8:44:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
8:44:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
8:44:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
8:44:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
8:44:24PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION FAILED --
8:44:35PM [ APPLAUSE ]
8:44:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
8:44:36PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
8:44:36PM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, FURTHER ACTION HAS TO BE TAKEN.
8:44:38PM >>THE CLERK: WITH HURTAK VOTING NO, CARLSON, NO, MANISCALCO,
8:44:42PM NO, MIRANDA, NO.
8:44:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
8:44:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL MAKE ANOTHER MOTION.
8:44:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, MAKE YOUR MOTION.
8:44:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: I FIND THE OPPOSITE OF MY COLLEAGUE HERE.
8:44:58PM THE PURPOSE OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY IS TO DEFEND
8:45:00PM THE LEGAL RIGHTS OF PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE CITY, AND THAT
8:45:06PM INCLUDES THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND PEOPLE WHO BUY
8:45:08PM PROPERTY WITH AN EXPECTATION OF WHAT'S ALREADY ENTITLED.
8:45:13PM THIS PROPERTY, AS TOLD TO US BY THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
8:45:21PM APPLICANT, WAS REZONED IN 2004 AND THE OWNER AT THAT TIME
8:45:26PM DOWNZONED IT.
8:45:28PM THE CURRENT OWNER BOUGHT THE PROPERTY WITH THAT DOWN ZONING
8:45:32PM ON IT.
8:45:32PM ANY INFORMATION OR CLAIM THAT THE CITY IS TAKING SOMETHING
8:45:37PM AWAY IS COMPLETELY FALSE BECAUSE THERE IS AN EXISTING
8:45:42PM ENTITLEMENT THAT WAS PUT -- THAT THE PERSON OWNED IT DECIDED
8:45:45PM TO DOWNZONE IT AND ASK FOR THAT AND THE CURRENT OWNER BOUGHT
8:45:50PM IT WITH THAT.
8:45:51PM AND THERE'S PLENTY OF COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT'S
8:45:53PM BEEN PRESENTED TONIGHT.
8:45:57PM WE CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THE THREAT OF LITIGATION.
8:46:01PM WE HAVE TO MAKE IT BASED ON WHAT'S ENTITLED, WHAT'S RIGHT
8:46:04PM AND WHAT'S FAIR.
8:46:05PM WHAT'S FAIR IS THAT THE CURRENT OWNER BOUGHT IT WITH THE
8:46:08PM CURRENT ENTITLEMENT THAT WAS PUT IN THERE IN 2004.
8:46:10PM THE EXPECTATION OF ENTITLEMENT IS NOT AN ENTITLEMENT.
8:46:14PM AND SO WE HAVE TO BE FAIR IN LOOKING AT THESE THINGS, BUT
8:46:19PM ULTIMATELY BECAUSE THE ENTITLEMENT IS THE WAY IT IS, I WOULD
8:46:26PM EXPECT THAT THERE WOULD BE A DIFFERENT PROCESS THAT WOULD
8:46:29PM COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT SOLUTION.
8:46:31PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REJECT THE SPECIAL
8:46:34PM MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION.
8:46:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
8:46:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
8:46:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SPEAK IF I MAY.
8:46:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO RIGHT AHEAD.
8:46:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: REDUCTION OF PARKING OF 37 SPACES, AND I
8:46:49PM UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TRAFFIC COUNT SAYS AND I ALSO REALIZE
8:46:52PM THAT EVEN JUST RECENTLY WE HAD ANOTHER ONE ALMOST LIKE THIS
8:46:57PM BUT WASN'T A HOTEL.
8:46:58PM I ADMIT THAT.
8:46:58PM ON CLEVELAND AND NORTH BOULEVARD, THEY WANTED IT REQUIRED
8:47:01PM .004 AND HAD .002 AND I ALSO VOTED AGAINST IT FOR THAT SAME
8:47:07PM REASON.
8:47:07PM I UNDERSTAND THAT -- SAYS NO, WE DON'T NEED CARS.
8:47:13PM WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING.
8:47:14PM I GOT NEWS FOR ALL OF US, WE DON'T HAVE A TRANSPORTATION
8:47:17PM SYSTEM.
8:47:17PM THAT'S WHY EVERYBODY NEEDS A CAR.
8:47:19PM THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
8:47:23PM I'M LOOKING AT PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT OF HOTELS THE SAME
8:47:26PM WAY IN A CAR.
8:47:27PM THEY DON'T WANT TO A HOTEL.
8:47:29PM IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, WHEN YOU'RE GOING DOWN AT THE
8:47:32PM CONVENTION CENTER, TRY TO CROSS THAT STREET TO GO TO THE
8:47:35PM MARRIOTT HOTEL AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
8:47:37PM THAT'S ALL.
8:47:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET ME DO THIS FIRST.
8:47:46PM WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
8:47:48PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:47:50PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
8:47:52PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:47:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
8:47:57PM THE REASON I'M VOTING NOT TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION IS
8:48:04PM BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE SAME AS WHAT WE APPROVED, AND I -- I
8:48:11PM DON'T KNOW.
8:48:12PM I DIDN'T CARE FOR -- NO, THAT'S IT.
8:48:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
8:48:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
8:48:20PM I WANT TO BE CLEAR, AGAIN, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR REASONS,
8:48:23PM ET CETERA, ET CETERA, THE MERE THREAT OF LITIGATION IS NOT
8:48:28PM RELEVANT.
8:48:30PM THAT'S WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING IN MY OTHER JOB.
8:48:34PM LITIGATION IS NOTHING -- THAT'S NOTHING NEW.
8:48:37PM BUT LITIGATION THAT IS VERY LIKELY GOING TO RESULT IN A RAW
8:48:42PM DEAL FOR TAXPAYERS AND THE CITY, THAT IS SOMETHING TO TAKE
8:48:46PM SERIOUSLY, AND THAT'S WHY I VOTE WHY I DO.
8:48:48PM IT'S NOT EASY.
8:48:49PM AGAIN, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IT'S NOT EASY, BUT THAT'S
8:48:53PM WHY I TAKE IT, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT.
8:48:56PM BUT THANK YOU.
8:48:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER COMMENT?
8:48:59PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
8:49:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
8:49:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:49:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
8:49:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:49:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
8:49:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
8:49:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
8:49:22PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSED WITH VIERA VOTING NO, GUDES
8:49:26PM VOTING NO, CITRO VOTING NO.
8:49:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY, OUR SECOND IS NULL AND VOID NOW.
8:49:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO CONFIRM THAT WITH THE LEGAL
8:49:38PM DEPARTMENT.
8:49:39PM MS. WELLS.
8:49:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO ACTION NECESSARY ON THE SECOND PART.
8:49:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ACTION NOW REQUIRED -- NO FURTHER
8:49:46PM ACTION IS REQUIRED OF COUNCIL AT THIS POINT.
8:49:54PM >>CATE WELLS: WITH REJECTING THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
8:49:57PM RECOMMENDATION, THAT'S IT.
8:50:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. WELLS, CAN YOU TELL US THE NEXT PROCESS
8:50:09PM SINCE IT'S BEEN REJECTED?
8:50:11PM >>CATE WELLS: THERE IS A HEARING THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE
8:50:14PM SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WHERE THEY WILL TAKE -- IT'S A FACTUAL
8:50:20PM HEARING, SO IT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE MEDIATION WE JUST WENT
8:50:22PM THROUGH.
8:50:23PM AND THE DECISION AT THAT POINT IS WHETHER OR NOT YOUR
8:50:26PM DECISION IN MAY OF 2022 UNFAIRLY OR -- UNREASONABLY OR
8:50:33PM INORDINATELY BURDENS THE PROPERTY.
8:50:36PM SO WE GO BACK TO THAT.
8:50:37PM IT'S NOT ANOTHER MEDIATION.
8:50:40PM WE WOULDN'T BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL WITH ANOTHER
8:50:42PM MEDIATION.
8:50:43PM IT'S THAT TYPE OF HEARING.
8:50:44PM THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE PRESENTED
8:50:47PM TO CITY COUNCIL.
8:50:49PM BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO THE SEPARATE LITIGATION THAT I WOULD
8:50:54PM -- THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO KEEP IT IN A
8:50:58PM PENDING STATUS WHILE WE GO THROUGH THAT SECOND PART OF THE
8:51:02PM 7051 OR IF THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT LITIGATION.
8:51:06PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER.
8:51:08PM >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU.
8:51:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
8:51:09PM AT THIS TIME, LET'S TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK AS WE CHANGE
8:51:13PM OVER PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING INTO THE CHAMBERS.
8:51:15PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
8:51:18PM [RECESS]
9:02:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITY COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.
9:02:39PM ROLL CALL.
9:02:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:02:42PM >> VIERA?
9:02:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:02:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:02:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:02:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
9:02:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:02:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
9:02:51PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:02:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY
9:02:59PM COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:02:59PM I KNOW THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING IS OVER, SO I'M GOING TO
9:03:02PM SPEAK IN GENERALITIES AND PLEASE LET'S NOT GET INTO A
9:03:06PM DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
9:03:07PM I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THE CASE WHEN YOU DO
9:03:11PM SOMETHING AS, FOR INSTANCE, DENYING A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
9:03:15PM FLUEDRA RECOMMENDATION, THE CASE IS -- WOULD STILL BE IN
9:03:19PM LITIGATION POSTURE.
9:03:20PM THIS IS A VERY OBVIOUSLY GREAT INTEREST TO THE PUBLIC.
9:03:26PM YOU MAY BE ASKED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON IT.
9:03:28PM PLEASE REMAIN MINDFUL OF THE STATE OF THE CASE AND THAT YOU
9:03:34PM PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT PUBLICLY REGARDING THIS MATTER, WHICH
9:03:38PM IS STILL PENDING.
9:03:39PM THANK YOU.
9:03:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE NUMBER REZ-22-82.
9:03:50PM >>ANNIE BARNES: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, ANNIE BARNES,
9:03:53PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
9:03:54PM THE NEXT ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS REZ-22-82 FOR
9:03:58PM 6204 INTERBAY BOULEVARD REQUESTING TO REZONE FROM RS 60 TO
9:04:03PM PD FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DAY CARE CENTER,
9:04:10PM STRIP SHOPPING CENTER, MEDICAL OFFICE, RESTAURANT, AND ALL
9:04:14PM CNU USES.
9:04:17PM I'LL TURN OVER MY PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
9:04:31PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
9:04:33PM STAFF.
9:04:33PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING
9:04:36PM DISTRICT AND INTERBAY SOUTH OF GANDY NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:04:39PM THE SITE IS ALSO WITHIN THE MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE FLIGHT
9:04:42PM PATH.
9:04:42PM THE CLOSET TRANSIT STOP IS LOCATED 0.3 MILES WEST OF THE
9:04:46PM SUBJECT SITE.
9:04:46PM SKY VIEW PARK IS THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
9:04:49PM THE SITE IS WITHIN A LEVEL A EVACUATION ZONE.
9:04:52PM HERE'S AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
9:04:57PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS JUST WEST OF SOUTH MacDILL AVENUE.
9:04:59PM IT'S AT THE INTERSECTION OF INTERBAY BOULEVARD AND SOUTH
9:05:01PM 6th STREET.
9:05:02PM THE SURROUNDING AREA IS MAINLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
9:05:05PM RESIDENTIAL IN CHARACTER.
9:05:06PM THERE IS A MIX OF SOME MULTIFAMILY DOWN TO THE SOUTH AND
9:05:10PM SOME ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY, BUT OVERALL THE AREA IS LARGELY
9:05:13PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
9:05:14PM THERE IS SOME COMMERCIAL USES AT THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH
9:05:18PM MacDILL AND INTERBAY BOULEVARD.
9:05:20PM HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
9:05:23PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 10
9:05:26PM FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
9:05:28PM TO THE EAST YOU HAVE THIS GREEN COLOR IS THE RECREATIONAL
9:05:31PM OPEN SPACE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, THE R20 IN THE BROWN
9:05:36PM AND THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 ALONG SOUTH MacDILL AND
9:05:40PM THE INTERSECTION OF INTERBAY.
9:05:41PM SO AS MENTIONED, THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE OF THE SITE IS
9:05:45PM RESIDENTIAL 10.
9:05:46PM THE RESIDENTIAL 10 DESIGNATION ALLOWS FOR LIMITED
9:05:48PM NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL USES IF LOCATIONAL CRITERIA
9:05:51PM IS MET.
9:05:52PM LOCATIONAL CRITERIA IS INTENDED TO CONTROL THE LOCATION OF
9:05:55PM COMMERCIAL USES IN AREAS PLANNED FOR RESIDENTIAL
9:05:57PM DEVELOPMENT.
9:05:58PM IF A SUBJECT SITE HAS EXISTING COMMERCIAL ZONING IT IS NOT
9:06:01PM SUBJECT TO MEETING LOCATIONAL CRITERIA FOR ANY NEW
9:06:04PM COMMERCIAL USES.
9:06:04PM WHILE THE DAY CARE CURRENTLY EXISTS ON THE SUBJECT SITE, THE
9:06:07PM ZONING IS RS 60, THUS THE SITE MUST MEET LOCATIONAL CRITERIA
9:06:11PM FOR ANY PROPOSED COMMERCIAL USES.
9:06:13PM IN THE R-10 DESIGNATION, THE LOCATIONAL CRITERIA STATES THAT
9:06:16PM THE BLOCK FACE OF THE SUBJECT SITE MUST HAVE 50% COMMERCIAL
9:06:19PM ZONING.
9:06:21PM THE BLOCK FACE FOR THIS PORTION OF INTERBAY BOULEVARD FROM
9:06:22PM SOUTH SELBORNE AVENUE TO SOUTH 6th STREET IS ZONED
9:06:25PM RESIDENTIAL.
9:06:26PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE LOCATIONAL
9:06:28PM CRITERIA HAS NOT BEEN MET.
9:06:30PM FURTHER, STAFF FINDS THAT THE APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST WOULD
9:06:32PM BE THE FIRST INTRODUCTION OF COMMERCIAL USES ON THIS SEGMENT
9:06:35PM OF INTERBAY BOULEVARD BETWEEN SOUTH SELBORNE AVENUE AND
9:06:40PM SOUTH 6th STREET.
9:06:41PM IF APPROVED, IT WOULD CHANGE THE ZONING PATTERN ON THE BLOCK
9:06:41PM FACE OF 50% COMMERCIAL ZONING AND PROPERTY SOUTH WOULD THEN
9:06:44PM MEET LOCATIONAL CRITERIA FOR ANY PROPOSED COMMERCIAL USES.
9:06:47PM ADDITIONALLY, THE R-10 ALLOWS FOR LIMITED TOWNHOMES IN THE
9:06:52PM LAND USE MATRIX CATEGORY WHICH IS SUPPORTED BY LU POLICY
9:06:55PM 9.3.5 WHICH ENCOURAGES LIMITING SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED
9:06:58PM DEVELOPMENT TO THE PERIPHERY OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:07:00PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF ADVISED THE APPLICANT THAT
9:07:02PM SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED USES WOULD LIKELY BE SUPPORTED IN THE
9:07:04PM NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SUBJECT SITE SINCE IT IS ADJACENT TO
9:07:07PM THE RESIDENTIAL 20 DESIGNATION.
9:07:09PM AS PROPOSED SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED EXTENDS THROUGHOUT THE
9:07:12PM SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE.
9:07:13PM WHILE THE SITE DOES PROPOSE INTERNAL PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY
9:07:18PM TO THE FRONT DOORS OF THE UNITS WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
9:07:21PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALSO PROVIDES SAFE PEDESTRIAN
9:07:23PM PATHWAYS FROM INTERBAY BOULEVARD IN THE PARKING LOTS TO THE
9:07:28PM COMMERCIAL USES ON THE SITE.
9:07:30PM AND WHILE IT'S ULTIMATELY INCONSISTENT WITH THE LOCATIONAL
9:07:33PM CRITERIA, THE PD -- THE PROPOSED PD IS PROVIDING A RANGE OF
9:07:37PM USES NEAR HOUSING AND WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO A DIVERSE HOUSING
9:07:39PM OPTION FOR THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
9:07:41PM OVERALL, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED PD
9:07:44PM WOULD BE AN ENCROACHMENT OF COMMERCIAL USES IN THE
9:07:47PM RESIDENTIAL AREA DUE TO THE FACT IT DOES NOT MEET LOCATIONAL
9:07:49PM CRITERIA AND IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY DIRECTION OF
9:07:52PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
9:07:53PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
9:07:55PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
9:07:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
9:08:02PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
9:08:04PM AGAIN, THIS IS REZONING TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6204
9:08:11PM INTERBAY BOULEVARD FROM RS 60 TO PD TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT
9:08:16PM OF 30 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS.
9:08:19PM 6600 SQUARE FEET -- SQUARE FOOT DAY CARE CENTER.
9:08:24PM 8400 SQUARE FEET OF STRIP SHOPPING CENTER TO INCLUDE MEDICAL
9:08:27PM OFFICE RESTAURANT AND ALL COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD USES.
9:08:30PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 4.3 ACRES OUTLINED IN RED
9:08:40PM ON THE AERIAL MAP.
9:08:41PM AND IS LOCATED IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF SOUTH HIMES AVENUE
9:08:46PM AND WEST OF SOUTH MacDILL AVENUE ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER
9:08:50PM OF INTERBAY BOULEVARD AND SOUTH 6th STREET.
9:08:53PM THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED IDENTIFIES SEVEN BUILDINGS ON THE
9:08:57PM SITE WITH TWO STRUCTURES, INDICATED ON THE SITE PLAN IS
9:09:02PM BUILDING ONE AND TWO, LOCATED ON THE NORTH END OF THE SITE
9:09:05PM CONTAINING THE COMMERCIAL USES.
9:09:06PM FIVE STRUCTURES LOCATED BEHIND BUILDINGS ONE AND TWO WITH
9:09:10PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED USES.
9:09:13PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT.
9:09:22PM HOWEVER, OVERALL, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF
9:09:27PM HAS FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT BASED ON TRANSPORTATION,
9:09:31PM SOLID WASTE, AND NATURAL RESOURCES REQUIREMENTS.
9:09:34PM THERE WILL NEED TO BE A MODIFICATION BETWEEN FIRST AND
9:09:37PM SECOND READING THAT IS INCLUDED ON THE REVISION SHEET
9:09:40PM REGARDING THE SOLID WASTE LOCATION AND IT WILL HAVE TO BE
9:09:44PM DEPICTED ON THE SITE PLAN.
9:09:46PM I WILL SHOW YOU AN EXCERPT FROM THE STAFF REPORT.
9:09:55PM THIS IS THE DUMPSTER LOCATION WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGED TO
9:09:58PM THIS AREA AS WELL, JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD.
9:10:04PM SHOWN HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE SOUTH OF INTERBAY.
9:10:15PM AND THE EXIT ON THE EAST END TO BE IMPROVED AS WELL AS SOME
9:10:20PM VACANT LAND, AS YOU CAN SEE ADJACENT, AS WELL AS LOOKING
9:10:26PM WEST FROM THE SUBJECT SITE TO 6th.
9:10:32PM AGAIN, WEST OF THE SITE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY.
9:10:41PM AND FARTHER WEST, THERE ARE SOME SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
9:10:44PM HOMES AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
9:10:49PM HOMES ALONG INTERBAY AND SELBORNE AVENUE.
9:10:54PM THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
9:10:55PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
9:10:57PM AND AFTER ERIN MAEHR FROM NATURAL RESOURCES WILL PROVIDE A
9:11:04PM REPORT AS WELL.
9:11:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
9:11:06PM THANK YOU.
9:11:18PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
9:11:20PM ERIN MAEHR, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
9:11:22PM I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW SOME OF MY COMMENTS OF WHICH WERE
9:11:25PM PROVIDED TO YOU IN THE STAFF REPORT.
9:11:27PM I'M GOING TO POINT OUT SOME OF THE WOODED ASPECTS OF THE
9:11:30PM SITE AND WHAT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED.
9:11:33PM NATURAL RESOURCES INCONSISTENT DUE TO THE ONLY NATURAL
9:11:37PM RESOURCES WAIVER ON THE PLAN FOR TREE RETENTION, AS THIS IS
9:11:43PM A HEAVILY WOODED SITE.
9:11:44PM SO THIS SITE IS OVER FOUR ACRES, AS ANNIE SAID.
9:11:51PM AND I MADE THIS LITTLE VISUAL SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE
9:11:57PM 165 ON-SITE JURISDICTIONAL TREES OF WHICH 107 ARE RATED FAIR
9:12:03PM OR BETTER, AND THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING TO REMOVE 92 OF THE
9:12:07PM TREES ON-SITE.
9:12:08PM SO ALL THE TREES WITH THE RED Xs ARE TREES THAT ARE
9:12:12PM PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL.
9:12:17PM WITH THE --
9:12:18PM [ENCODER DROP]
9:12:20PM -- HAZARDOUS GRAND TREES ON-SITE.
9:12:49PM THERE ARE ONLY TWO GRAND TREES ON THE SITE.
9:12:51PM RIGHT HERE IS TREE 232.
9:12:54PM IT'S A 40-INCH LIVE OAK.
9:12:56PM IT'S RATED C-5 AND WORTH 25 MITIGATION TREES.
9:13:00PM AND DOWN HERE IS TREE NUMBER 117, A 35-INCH LIVE OAK RATED
9:13:07PM C-7, WORTH 21 CREDITS.
9:13:09PM BOTH OF THOSE TREES HAVE BEEN PRESERVED BY THE APPLICANT.
9:13:14PM SO THE PROJECT HAS PROPOSED A WAIVER OF TREE RETENTION DOWN
9:13:18PM TO 10% FROM THE REQUIRED 50% PER 27-2843.1.
9:13:24PM AND IF THE PROJECT WERE TO PRESERVE ALL 17 OF THESE GOOD
9:13:29PM CONDITION TREES SHOWN IN THE GREEN, THAT WOULD STILL REQUIRE
9:13:33PM A WAIVER, AND THE WAIVER WOULD BE 30% TREE RETENTION.
9:13:38PM AS THIS IS HEAVILY WOODED.
9:13:40PM I'M JUST GOING TO SHOW, THIS IS A PHOTO FROM THE CENTER OF
9:13:44PM THE SITE LOOKING NORTH TOWARDS INTERBAY.
9:13:47PM AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS VERY HEAVILY WOODED.
9:13:50PM THERE ARE 80% OF THE TREES ARE LIVE OAKS ON THE SITE.
9:13:56PM AND THAT SAID, I JUST WOULD, SO IF THE PROJECT WERE TO
9:14:00PM REQUIRE ADDITIONAL TREES TO BE PRESERVED, THIS WOULD REQUIRE
9:14:04PM A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS ON THE SITE AND
9:14:07PM POTENTIALLY AN ALTERNATE PLACEMENT OF THE DAY CARE AS THERE
9:14:11PM ARE MANY GOOD CONDITION TREES SHOWN THERE.
9:14:14PM I'M JUST GOING TO SHOW A COUPLE OF THESE GOOD CONDITION
9:14:18PM TREES.
9:14:20PM I'LL SHOW HERE ON THE PLAN.
9:14:22PM TREE 41.
9:14:23PM IT'S LOCATED RIGHT WHERE THE DAY CARE IS PROPOSED TO BE, AND
9:14:27PM THIS IS TREE 41 HERE.
9:14:30PM BUT IT'S A 31-INCH LIVE OAK.
9:14:35PM IT IS A B-RATED TREE.
9:14:37PM HERE WE'LL GO BACK AND TREE 122 RIGHT HERE IS A 29-INCH LIVE
9:14:43PM OAK, ALSO B-RATED.
9:14:46PM AND THIS IS THAT TREE RIGHT HERE.
9:14:50PM IT'S CLOSE TO THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.
9:14:53PM SO IF IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT IN
9:14:57PM ITS CURRENT FORM, 221 TYPE 1 TREES ARE REQUIRED FOR
9:15:02PM MITIGATION.
9:15:03PM HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH NATURAL RESOURCES TO
9:15:06PM PROVIDE WHERE POSSIBLE FOUR-INCH CALIPER TREES ON-SITE,
9:15:11PM REQUIRED GREENSPACE IS 27,619 SQUARE FEET, AND THE APPLICANT
9:15:16PM IS PROVIDING 74,157 SQUARE FEET.
9:15:22PM HAS PRESERVED ALL GRAND TREES ON-SITE AND PROVIDED THE FULL
9:15:25PM PROTECTIVE RADII FOR OFF-SITE TREES, LIKE THIS GRAND TREE
9:15:29PM AND ANY OTHER OFF-SITE TREES.
9:15:32PM AND I DO JUST WANT TO REITERATE IF ALL THE GOOD CONDITION
9:15:36PM TREES WERE TO BE PRESERVED, IT STILL WOULD REQUIRE A 30%
9:15:40PM TREE RETENTION WAIVER AS THIS IS A VERY HEAVILY WOODED SITE
9:15:44PM AND ANY DEVELOPMENT WOULD REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT TREE REMOVAL.
9:15:48PM THAT'S IT.
9:15:50PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.
9:15:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: QUESTIONS?
9:15:53PM THANK YOU.
9:15:59PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:16:01PM MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK.
9:16:03PM MY OFFICE IS AT 305 SOUTH BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:16:07PM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
9:16:13PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND OUR
9:16:17PM CONSULTANTS.
9:16:18PM WITH ME ARE DAVID SCHER, JENNIFER SCHER, AND JERROD BRAY OF
9:16:24PM SCHER INVESTMENTS.
9:16:27PM AND ALSO WITH ME IS OMAR GARCIA WITH URBAN CORE HOLDINGS.
9:16:33PM I HAVE WITH ME AND WHO WILL SPEAK IN A FEW MOMENTS, RICKY
9:16:38PM PETERIKA WHO IS OUR ARBORIST, AND I WILL ASK HIM TO BRIEFLY
9:16:43PM DESCRIBE HIS QUALIFICATIONS FOR THIS POSITION.
9:16:47PM AND RICKY WILL ADDRESS THE TREE ISSUES IN DETAIL IN JUST A
9:16:55PM FEW MINUTES.
9:16:56PM AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CLERK TO RECOGNIZE
9:17:06PM AMBER TOMICELLO, OUR ENGINEER WHO IS REGISTERED VIRTUALLY SO
9:17:13PM WE CAN PUT UP THE SITE PLAN ON THE OVERHEAD.
9:17:16PM IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THAT, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
9:17:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AMBER, ARE YOU GOING TO BE GIVING ANY TYPE
9:17:24PM OF TESTIMONY AT THIS TIME?
9:17:27PM >> NOT AT THIS TIME.
9:17:28PM I'LL JUST BE SHARING MY SCREEN.
9:17:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
9:17:33PM HAS EVERYBODY BEEN SWORN IN?
9:17:37PM I SEE HEADS SHAKING NO.
9:17:40PM AT THIS TIME, WOULD ANYBODY WHO IS GOING TO BE GIVING ANY
9:17:42PM TYPE OF TESTIMONY, INCLUDING MS. TOM CELLO, WOULD YOU PLEASE
9:17:46PM RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
9:17:49PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
9:17:52PM YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
9:17:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:18:01PM >> AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE MR. SCHER TO COME AND GIVE YOU AN
9:18:04PM OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT.
9:18:05PM THANK YOU.
9:18:07PM >> MY NAME IS DAVID SCHER.
9:18:08PM 503 ERIE AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33606.
9:18:13PM AT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF, THANK YOU FOR
9:18:16PM TAKING THE TIME TO CONSIDER THE REQUEST OF OUR PLANNED
9:18:20PM DEVELOPMENT OF OUR INTERBAY COMMONS COMMUNITY.
9:18:22PM AS SPONSORS OF THE PROJECT, SSG COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS
9:18:26PM REPRESENTED BY MYSELF, JENNIFER, AND JERROD BRAY, OUR
9:18:30PM COMPANY MAINLY DEVELOPS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS AND URBAN
9:18:33PM INFILL.
9:18:35PM IT'S LOCAL AND BEEN AROUND SINCE THE 1970s.
9:18:38PM OUR PARTNER SPONSOR IS URBAN CORE REPRESENTED BY OMAR GARCIA
9:18:43PM AND GIL SIMOSE.
9:18:45PM THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME, A LOCAL COMPANY AND
9:18:48PM DEVELOP MAINLY RESIDENTIAL.
9:18:49PM SO RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL.
9:18:50PM I INITIALLY BROUGHT THIS PARCEL UNDER CONTRACT TO
9:18:55PM POTENTIALLY RELOCATE THE JCC JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER SCHOOL
9:19:00PM FROM BAYSHORE WHERE THEY WILL BE DISPLACED IN 2024 AND BY A
9:19:07PM RELATED PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO SHARE THE SITE WITH THE
9:19:14PM SHALOM SYNAGOGUE.
9:19:16PM WE ARE IN SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE JCC FOR THEM TO
9:19:19PM RELOCATE TO THIS SITE IF ECONOMICS ALLOW.
9:19:21PM WE DO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE SITE AS A BACKUP,
9:19:27PM BUT WE ARE IN SERIOUS NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE JCC.
9:19:30PM A PRESCHOOL IN THIS LOCATION WHICH THERE ALREADY IS, WILL
9:19:34PM CREATE REPLACEMENT EMPLOYMENT FOR A NUMBER OF THE STAFF AT
9:19:38PM CIRCLE C.
9:19:39PM SALLY HARRIS, THE CURRENT OWNER, HAS WRITTEN A LETTER OF
9:19:43PM SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT AND IS PRESENT HERE IN PERSON TODAY.
9:19:46PM AND I'D LIKE TO CALL ON OMAR GARCIA TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
9:19:50PM OMAR?
9:19:52PM >> OMAR GARCIA, 1041 ROW PASS, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS,
9:19:56PM THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO CONSIDER THIS REQUEST FOR
9:20:02PM OUR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
9:20:03PM IT IS A MIXED USE PROPERTY FOR SOUTH TAMPA.
9:20:05PM WHEN WE FIRST DISCUSSED DEVELOPING THE CONCEPT OF THE
9:20:09PM EXISTING CIRCLE C DAY CARE PROPERTY, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE
9:20:12PM WE HAD COMMUNITY BUY-IN.
9:20:14PM SINCE THEN, WE'VE HAD OVER TEN COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
9:20:16PM SOME OF THEM VIRTUAL.
9:20:18PM SOME OF THEM ON-SITE.
9:20:19PM SOME WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND CONSERVATION GROUPS
9:20:23PM LIKE THE TAMPA ADVOCACY GROUP THAT'S HERE, AND WE'VE EVEN
9:20:27PM MET WITH NEIGHBORS IN PERSON AND IN THEIR HOMES.
9:20:30PM WE HAVE GONE OUT OF OUR WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT THE
9:20:35PM COMMUNITY INVOLVED.
9:20:35PM THE KEY MESSAGES THAT WE HEARD FROM THOSE MEETINGS WERE THEY
9:20:38PM WANTED ANOTHER DAY CARE TO REPLACE CIRCLE C.
9:20:40PM THAT IS WHY THIS PLAN INCLUDES A NEW DAY CARE FOR THE
9:20:46PM COMMUNITY IN ADDITION TO CONTINUING EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES
9:20:49PM FOR THE LONG SERVING CIRCLE C STAFF MEMBERS.
9:20:51PM THE COMMUNITY ALSO WANTED MORE WALKABLE RETAIL OPTIONS IN
9:20:56PM THIS AREA.
9:20:57PM THIS PLAN INCLUDES WALKABLE RETAIL OPTIONS AND CONSTRUCTION
9:21:01PM OF SIDEWALKS.
9:21:03PM WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING A PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK WITH TWO SPEED
9:21:06PM TABLES ON INTERBAY TO INCREASE BOTH THE SAFETY OF THOSE
9:21:09PM WALKING TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON
9:21:12PM INTERBAY WANTING TO WALK TO THE ADJACENT SKY VIEW PARK.
9:21:16PM TREE ADVOCATES WANTED TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING TREES.
9:21:19PM WE WORKED WITH ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED ARBORISTS IN TAMPA
9:21:22PM TO HELP US BEST FOCUS OUR PRESERVATION EFFORTS.
9:21:25PM I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT OUR PLAN PRESERVES ALL THE GRAND
9:21:29PM OAKS ON THE SITE.
9:21:30PM IN ADDITION, OUR PLANS PROACTIVE LANDSCAPE DESIGN WILL
9:21:34PM INCREASE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TREES FROM CURRENT 165 ON-SITE
9:21:38PM TO 183.
9:21:40PM THIS IS 18 MORE TREES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON-SITE.
9:21:42PM THIS PROJECT WILL ALSO HAVE MORE AND HEALTHIER TREES THAT IS
9:21:48PM CURRENTLY THERE.
9:21:49PM OUR ARBORIST WILL SPEAK MORE ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE
9:21:52PM CURRENT TREES.
9:21:52PM WE ALSO HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT MULTIFAMILY
9:21:57PM PROPERTIES TO RENT.
9:21:58PM THEY WANT PROPERTIES THAT RESIDENTS CAN BUY, INCREASING
9:22:01PM LONG-TERM VESTED MEMBERS TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:22:03PM THIS PLAN INCLUDES THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW WALKABLE
9:22:06PM NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS WITHIN REACH OF THOSE ALREADY IN THE
9:22:08PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND THOSE SERVING AT MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
9:22:12PM TOWN HOUSES THE MOST EFFICIENT WAYS TO LOWER COST OF
9:22:15PM CONSTRUCTION AND ENCOURAGE MORE COMMUNITY FEEL THAN SIMPLY
9:22:19PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOME PARCELS.
9:22:21PM WE ALSO HEARD THE COMMUNITY WANTED TO HAVE CONNECTIVITY TO
9:22:23PM THE ADJACENT PARK AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING PARK.
9:22:26PM WE HOPE TO CONNECT OUR DEVELOPMENT TO SKY VIEW PARK WITH A
9:22:29PM PEDESTRIAN GATE THAT WILL INCREASE THE PARK'S USAGE BY THE
9:22:32PM COMMUNITY WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY.
9:22:34PM THEY ALSO TOLD US THAT FLOODING IS AN ISSUE IN SOUTH TAMPA
9:22:38PM AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COMMUNITY DID NOT ADD
9:22:41PM TO THE PROBLEM.
9:22:42PM OUR ARCHITECTS, CIVIL ENGINEERS WORKED WITH THE CITY OF
9:22:45PM TAMPA STAFF TO ENSURE ADEQUATE ON-SITE WATER RETENTION.
9:22:49PM ALTHOUGH WE MAY NOT HAVE EVERY SINGLE PERSON'S BUY-IN ON THE
9:22:52PM DESIGN, I WILL CERTAINLY TELL YOU THAT BASED ON OUR
9:22:54PM INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE ISSUES
9:22:56PM ADDRESSED ABOVE WERE THEIR MAIN CONCERNS TO US.
9:23:00PM THE PLAN ADDS MORE HOUSING FOR PURCHASE, INCREASES
9:23:03PM WALKABILITY, PRESERVES MUCH-NEEDED CHILD CARE RESOURCES,
9:23:06PM ADDRESSES STORMWATER CONCERNS WHILE ADDING HEALTHY TREES AND
9:23:10PM PRESERVING OUR PRECIOUS GRAND OAKS.
9:23:13PM IF THIS PLAN IS NOT APPROVED AND FUTURE LAND USE FOR
9:23:15PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOME REMAINS, I'M SURE A TRACK BUILDER --
9:23:20PM TRACT BUILDER WILL BE HAPPY TO SIMPLY BUILD SINGLE-FAMILY
9:23:23PM HOMES NO REZONING REQUIRED.
9:23:25PM I BELIEVE THAT IS NOT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
9:23:27PM WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF OUR PD APPLICATION
9:23:30PM FOR INTERBAY COMMONS.
9:23:31PM THANK YOU.
9:23:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:23:34PM ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
9:23:36PM >> DAVID MECHANIK.
9:23:38PM AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR ARBORIST, RICKY PETERIKA
9:23:42PM TO ADDRESS THE TREE WAIVER.
9:23:44PM THANK YOU.
9:23:47PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:23:48PM RICKY PETERIKA, 308 EAST 7th AVENUE.
9:23:51PM I'M A BOARD CERTIFIED MASTER ARBORIST, REGISTERED CONSULTING
9:23:56PM ARBORIST, PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, CERTIFIED
9:23:59PM PLANNER BUT I'M PRACTICING IN ARBORICULTURE AND SHAPE
9:24:04PM ARCHITECTURE SINCE 2009.
9:24:05PM WHEN I CONDUCTED MY SITE REVIEW FEBRUARY OF 2022, I THOUGHT
9:24:08PM THE OVERALL CONDITION OF THE TREES ON THE SITE, FOREST
9:24:13PM HEALTH, WAS GENERALLY WORSE THAN I EXPECTED.
9:24:16PM THE OAKS SEEMED TO HAVE MORE SYSTEMIC HEALTH ISSUES ACROSS
9:24:19PM THE POPULATION, SUCH AS CROWN THINNING, LOW LIVE CROWN
9:24:22PM RATIO, WHICH IS HOW MUCH TRUNK TO LEAVES THERE ARE AND SMALL
9:24:27PM LEAF SIZE.
9:24:28PM THIS OBSERVATION SHOOK OUT IN MY INVENTORY METRICS WHERE I
9:24:31PM FOUND THAT 11% OF THE ON-SITE TREES WERE GOOD OR BETTER.
9:24:36PM COMPARE THAT WITH 75% AS THE CITY AVERAGE OF GOOD OR BETTER
9:24:42PM TREES IN A TYPICAL PARK-LIKE SETTING.
9:24:45PM ACCORDING TO THE 2016 CITY OF TAMPA CANOPY STUDY.
9:24:50PM THE FOREST HEALTH ON-SITE WAS BELOW AVERAGE FOR PARK-LIKE
9:24:56PM SETTING.
9:24:57PM IT WAS SO PECULIAR THAT I ASKED ANOTHER ARBORIST TO CONDUCT
9:25:00PM SOIL TESTS.
9:25:01PM THE TESTS REVEALED THE SITE WAS CRITICALLY DEFICIENT IN TWO
9:25:05PM MACRO ELEMENTS AND THE pH WAS LOWER THAN EXPECTED.
9:25:10PM MOST ABUNDANT TREES ON-SITE ARE LIVE OAKS AND MAKING UP 81%
9:25:13PM OF THE POPULATION AND THE MAJORITY OF THE DECLINING TREES
9:25:16PM WERE SMALLER, MORE COMPACTLY GROUPED OAKS.
9:25:22PM DUE TO THIS OVERABUNDANCE OF ONE SPECIES, OVERALL FOREST
9:25:26PM HEALTH AND REQUEST FROM A CONCERNED MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, I
9:25:30PM TRIED TO RESPOND TO THIS FOREST CONDITION WITH AN ECOLOGICAL
9:25:36PM APPROPRIATE MITIGATION PLAN TO PLANT A RESILIENT URBAN
9:25:40PM FOREST IN THE BUILT CONDITION THAT DOES NOT EXIST IN THE
9:25:43PM UNBUILT CONDITION.
9:25:45PM SO I OFFER THAT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES NOT -- IS NOT
9:25:50PM YET TUNED TO ALL THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT GOALS SUCH AS
9:25:54PM DIVERSITY AND RESILIENCE, SPECIFICALLY TO TREES.
9:25:58PM SO WHILE WE NEED RELIEF FROM THE RETENTION PERCENTAGE FOR A
9:26:03PM SITE THAT'S DENSELY WOODED WITH TREES IN FAIR OR WORSE
9:26:07PM CONDITION, WE CAN STILL PROMOTE DIVERSITY AND IMPROVE FOREST
9:26:11PM HEALTH WITH CAREFUL CONSIDERED LANDSCAPING.
9:26:19PM >> DAVID MECHANIK AGAIN FOR THE RECORD.
9:26:21PM I WILL SPEAK QUICKLY BECAUSE I'M RAPIDLY RUNNING OUT OF
9:26:26PM TIME.
9:26:26PM I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE OTHER WAIVERS THAT WE'VE REQUESTED,
9:26:33PM AND I WANT TO SAY OVERALL, THESE WAIVERS ARE EXTREMELY
9:26:38PM MINOR.
9:26:39PM WE ARE ASKING TO RELOCATE A MONUMENT SIGN TO THE INTERIOR OF
9:26:44PM THE SITE, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY CAUSED BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING
9:26:48PM TO AVOID AN IMPACT TO ONE OF THE PRESERVED TREES.
9:26:53PM ON THE SITE, WE ARE ASKING FOR A SMALL INCREASE IN ONE PYLON
9:26:58PM SIGN AND TO REPLACE TWO DIRECTIONAL SIGNS, ONE SLIGHTLY
9:27:04PM LARGER DIRECTIONAL SIGN.
9:27:06PM THE SIGN WAIVERS ARE REQUESTED BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE
9:27:11PM DIFFERENT USES ON THE SITE, SO THERE'S A LOT OF DEMAND FOR
9:27:15PM SIGNAGE SPACE, BUT WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR A SIGNIFICANT
9:27:19PM INCREASE.
9:27:23PM WE ARE ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO ALLOW FOR ONE LOADING SPACE
9:27:29PM WITH A REDUCED SIZE OF THAT LOADING SPACE.
9:27:33PM IT IS A VERY COMMON WAIVER THAT COUNCIL HAS GRANTED IN THE
9:27:36PM PAST.
9:27:36PM WE ARE ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC
9:27:43PM TO ACCESS A LOCAL STREET.
9:27:45PM YOU HAVE A PENDING CODE AMENDMENT WHICH WOULD ELIMINATE THIS
9:27:49PM REQUIREMENT AND ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR THIS PARTICULAR
9:27:53PM WAIVER, AND I BELIEVE THAT IS, ALONG WITH THE MINOR PARKING
9:27:58PM WAIVER, THE RATIONALE FOR THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S
9:28:03PM FINDING OF INCONSISTENCY.
9:28:07PM WITH THAT, I WILL SPEAK TO THE PARKING WAIVER.
9:28:14PM THE WAIVER IS ONLY A REDUCTION OF 1.4%.
9:28:17PM SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A VERY MINOR REQUEST.
9:28:22PM AND ALL OF THESE WAIVERS ARE DUE TO THE FACT THAT CODE
9:28:26PM REQUIREMENTS PUT A LOT OF DEMANDS ON USAGE OF A PIECE OF
9:28:31PM PROPERTY.
9:28:33PM SO SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE IN THE BALANCE.
9:28:37PM AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE HAVE EXCESS GREENSPACE AND
9:28:43PM MEET OTHER REQUIREMENTS WHICH THEREFORE NECESSITATED SOME OF
9:28:47PM THESE WAIVERS.
9:28:49PM I'D LIKE TO CONCLUDE MY REMARKS BY ADDRESSING THE COMMERCIAL
9:28:53PM LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
9:28:56PM THE STAFF REPORT WOULD LEAD YOU TO INDICATE OR BELIEVE THAT
9:29:03PM THE COMMERCIAL LOCATIONAL CRITERIA ARE MANDATORY, BUT THESE
9:29:08PM ARE MERELY CRITERIA THAT YOU CONSIDER AMONG ALL THE VARIOUS
9:29:13PM OTHER FACTORS THAT YOU CONSIDER IN WHETHER OR NOT TO APPROVE
9:29:18PM OR NOT APPROVE A REZONING APPLICATION.
9:29:22PM SO IT IS TOTALLY WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF CITY COUNCIL TO
9:29:27PM DECIDE WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ALLOW THIS COMMERCIAL USE
9:29:33PM ON THE PROPERTY, AND I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE DAY CARE,
9:29:37PM IT'S BEEN SORT OF REFERRED TO AS A COMMERCIAL USE.
9:29:41PM DAY CARE IS NOT A COMMERCIAL USE.
9:29:43PM ONLY THE SHOPPING CENTER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY
9:29:49PM IS A COMMERCIAL USE.
9:29:51PM AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT TO REMIND YOU OF WHAT MR.
9:29:56PM GARCIA JUST SAID, THE COMMERCIAL WAS ADDED AT THE REQUEST OF
9:30:00PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN ALL OF THE MEETINGS THAT THE DEVELOPERS
9:30:07PM HAVE HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:30:09PM SO WITH THAT, I'LL CONCLUDE OUR PRESENTATION AND BE HAPPY TO
9:30:13PM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
9:30:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
9:30:16PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS
9:30:23PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE NUMBER REZ-22-82?
9:31:02PM >> HI.
9:31:02PM CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
9:31:04PM LIFELONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
9:31:05PM HE'S CORRECT.
9:31:07PM THEY DID THE RIGHT THING.
9:31:08PM THEY REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:31:10PM THEY MET WITH US.
9:31:10PM THEY TALKED WITH US.
9:31:11PM I APPLAUD THEM FOR THAT.
9:31:13PM THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
9:31:15PM THAT IS HOW WE MAKE PROJECTS BETTER.
9:31:17PM BUT EVEN IF THEY MAKE IT BETTER IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT
9:31:22PM EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD OR WE COME TO A COMPLETE AGREEMENT ON
9:31:25PM THINGS.
9:31:25PM AS A LOT OF THE SOG PEOPLE TOLD YOU OVER AND OVER AGAIN,
9:31:30PM WE'RE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT IN SOUTH TAMPA.
9:31:33PM WE JUST FEEL LIKE WE CANNOT HANDLE MORE RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE
9:31:36PM OF OUR UNIQUE GEOGRAPHY.
9:31:38PM COMMERCIAL, ON THE OTHER HAND, EVERYBODY WANTS COMMERCIAL.
9:31:41PM WE WANT AMENITIES.
9:31:44PM SO THAT PART OF IT IS GOOD.
9:31:46PM THE PROBLEM IS, WHAT YOU SEE SO MUCH OF THE TIME IS THAT
9:31:51PM THEY TRY TO DO TOO MUCH, JUST A LITTLE TOO MUCH, A LOT TOO
9:31:56PM MUCH, BUT JUST TOO MUCH.
9:31:57PM AND THAT'S WHAT I FEEL WE HAVE A SITUATION HERE NOW.
9:32:01PM IF THEY ELIMINATED ONE OR TWO, OR THREE UNITS, I DON'T KNOW
9:32:04PM HOW MANY, OR MAYBE THEY MADE SOME OF THE UNITS SMALLER,
9:32:07PM WHICH WOULD MAKE THEM MORE AFFORDABLE, YOU COULD SAVE MORE
9:32:11PM OF THESE TREES.
9:32:12PM HE TALKED ABOUT THE GRAND OAKS AND, YES, THERE ARE TWO GRAND
9:32:16PM OAKS AND THEY ARE SAVING THEM, BUT THERE ARE SIX OTHER OAK
9:32:20PM TREES THAT ARE THIS CLOSE TO BEING GRAND OAKS.
9:32:23PM THEY ARE 31 INCHES, 30 INCHES, AND HALF OF THEM ARE B RATED.
9:32:27PM THESE ARE GOOD, HEALTHY TREES.
9:32:31PM MY FAMILY GROWS TREES.
9:32:34PM THEY HAVE DONE IT FOR GENERATIONS.
9:32:35PM I KNOW ABOUT TREES.
9:32:37PM THEY SAY WE'RE PUTTING MORE TREES ON, BUT BABY TREES AREN'T
9:32:41PM THE SAME AS ADULT TREES.
9:32:42PM THESE FULL GROWN TREES, WHAT THEY DO FOR FLOODING IS
9:32:46PM AMAZING.
9:32:48PM THEY KEEP HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF GALLONS OF WATER IN THE
9:32:53PM LEAFS AND BRANCHES WHICH MITIGATES THE FLOODING.
9:32:55PM WHEN I'M CRUISING THE LAND AND WE SEE FLOODING IN THE
9:32:58PM WINTERTIME BECAUSE IT'S IN AN AREA THAT'S COLDER THAN HERE,
9:33:01PM THE FORESTER SAYS DON'T WORRY, DON'T WORRY.
9:33:04PM AS SOON AS THE TREES WAKE UP, THEY SUCK IT RIGHT UP.
9:33:06PM THE OTHER THING I SEE IS WHEN WE CLEAR CUT ONE OF THE
9:33:10PM STANDS, WE PLANT 600 TREES PER ACRE.
9:33:13PM 600.
9:33:14PM WE HAVE FLOODING.
9:33:15PM WHEN THOSE TREES ARE MATURE, WHEN THEY ARE TIME TO HARVEST
9:33:18PM THEM, WE ONLY HAVE ONE TO 150 TREES PER ACRE.
9:33:21PM WE DON'T HAVE FLOODING.
9:33:22PM BABY TREES ARE NOT THE SAME AS GROWN TREES.
9:33:25PM AND THERE'S NOTHING IN THE WORLD MORE VALUABLE THAN TIME.
9:33:28PM NOTHING IS MORE VALUABLE THAN TIME.
9:33:30PM AND WHEN YOU TAKE 30-INCH, 29-INCH, 28-INCH B RATED TREES
9:33:37PM AND YOU CUT THEM DOWN AND YOU REPLACE THEM WITH A 4-INCH
9:33:41PM TREE, YOU HAVE WASTED TIME BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM
9:33:45PM 80 YEARS, 60 YEARS, WHATEVER.
9:33:47PM THE STAFF IS -- HAS RECOMMENDED THAT THEY TRY TO SAVE SOME
9:33:50PM OF THE B RATED TREES, SOME OF THE C RATED TREES, SOME OF THE
9:33:54PM CLUMPS.
9:33:55PM THEY CAN TELL YOU WHICH ONES.
9:33:57PM SHE CAN WORK WITH THEM AND SAY WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE?
9:33:59PM I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF EFFORT MADE TO SAVE MORE OF THE
9:34:02PM TREES BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE NEED.
9:34:04PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE REPLACED.
9:34:07PM THANK YOU.
9:34:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:34:13PM >> I HAVE A SPEAKER'S WAIVER FORM.
9:34:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE NAMES ARE ON THERE.
9:34:19PM JUST ONE.
9:34:20PM OKAY.
9:34:20PM MS. JACKSON HAS ONE NAME, CLAIRE HANEY.
9:34:25PM THANK YOU.
9:34:26PM ONE EXTRA MINUTE, TOTAL OF FOUR, PLEASE.
9:34:36PM >> HI.
9:34:37PM MY NAME IS PAMELA JACKSON.
9:34:40PM I AM HERE AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN OF SOUTH TAMPA AND AS A
9:34:45PM MEMBER OF TAMPA'S TREE ADVOCACY GROUP TO ASK YOU TO OPPOSE
9:34:48PM THIS REZONING TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
9:34:51PM THE CIRCLE C PROPERTY IS OFFICIALLY CONSIDERED A WOODED
9:34:55PM SITE.
9:34:55PM THIS PROPERTY IS UNIQUE IN THAT IT'S A RELATIVELY UNTOUCHED
9:34:59PM FOUR AND A HALF ACRES.
9:35:01PM IT'S A GEM.
9:35:03PM IT'S GORGEOUS IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF ITS TREES, EXTREMELY
9:35:08PM RARE FIND IN SOUTH TAMPA.
9:35:09PM TREE ORDINANCES ARE IN PLACE FOR A REASON, AND THE NATURAL
9:35:12PM RESOURCES DEPARTMENT FINDS THE REZONING SITE PLAN
9:35:15PM INCONSISTENT FOR A REASON.
9:35:18PM TO DISCOUNT THEIR PROFESSIONAL OPINION WOULD BE A SHAME.
9:35:20PM THE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS IN TAMPA'S CODE STATE THAT 50%
9:35:25PM OF THE TREES ON THE PROPERTY SHOULD REMAIN.
9:35:27PM AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, THIS PROPERTY HAS 166 TOTAL TREES.
9:35:31PM AT LEAST 107 OF THEM ARE RATED A, B OR C, AND OUT OF THAT
9:35:36PM 107, THE DEVELOPER IS SADLY PLANNING ON SAVING ONLY 15.
9:35:40PM THE PROFESSIONALS AT THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PLANNING
9:35:42PM COMMISSION ALSO DO NOT SUPPORT THE REZONING.
9:35:47PM HERE ARE JUST TWO OF THE REASONS WHY.
9:35:49PM LU POLICY 9.2.6 ENCOURAGES ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY USES TO BE
9:35:54PM DESIGNED TO INCLUDE ORIENTATION OF THE FRONT DOOR TO A
9:35:58PM NEIGHBORHOOD SIDEWALK AND STREET.
9:36:00PM AND THE STAFF ALSO DETERMINED THAT THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
9:36:03PM DOES NOT MEET LOCATIONAL CRITERIA BECAUSE OF THE BLOCK FACE
9:36:07PM REQUIREMENT TO BE 50% COMMERCIAL.
9:36:09PM THE BLOCK FACE BETWEEN SOUTH 6th STREET AND SOUTH SELBORNE
9:36:15PM AVENUE IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
9:36:16PM AS SHOWN IN YOUR FILE, THE RESIDENTS OF INTERBAY BOULEVARD
9:36:18PM ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THIS PLANNED
9:36:21PM DEVELOPMENT WOULD BRING.
9:36:22PM WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEIR PROPERTY VALUES.
9:36:25PM AT THE VERY LEAST, THE PARKING FOR THIS PROPOSED STRIP MALL
9:36:29PM AND DAY CARE SHOULD BE IN THE BACK TO HELP EASE THE TRAFFIC
9:36:33PM NIGHTMARE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF INTERBAY BOULEVARD.
9:36:36PM AND THIS PLANNED STRIP MALL IS PERPLEXING TO ME.
9:36:39PM IT WOULD HAVE A COFFEE SHOP, A RESTAURANT, A MEDICAL OFFICE
9:36:43PM AND A NAIL SALON.
9:36:44PM JUST OVER 1,000 FEET AWAY, A FOUR-MINUTE WALK IS A STRIP
9:36:48PM MALL LOCATED APPROPRIATELY AT THE INTERSECTION OF
9:36:51PM MacDILL AND INTERBAY THAT HAS THE SAME BUSINESSES AS
9:36:55PM THIS NEW PROPOSED STRIP MALL.
9:36:57PM WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THOSE BUSINESSES, STRIP MALLS LOSE
9:37:01PM THEIR SHINE OVER TIME AND THAT ONE IS NO EXCEPTION.
9:37:04PM IF THIS ZONING IS GRANTED, THE COUNCIL IS OPENING A CAN OF
9:37:10PM WORMS BY ALLOWING THIS COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT ON A
9:37:13PM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:37:14PM AS YOU KNOW, THE LAW STATES IN ORDER TO CHANGE THIS TO
9:37:17PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, THERE MUST BE A UNIQUE CONDITION OR
9:37:21PM SITUATION WHICH OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS CANNOT ACCOMMODATE,
9:37:24PM INCLUDING, BUT SPECIFICALLY NOT LIMITED TO, UNUSUAL PHYSICAL
9:37:27PM OR ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES.
9:37:29PM HOW WOULD THAT APPLY TO THIS TREE COVERED PIECE OF PROPERTY?
9:37:32PM I WOULD SAY RATHER CLEARLY IT DOES JUST THE OPPOSITE.
9:37:35PM MY GREAT WISH IS FOR THE CITY TO STRONGLY CONSIDER THIS
9:37:39PM PIECE OF PROPERTY AS A NATURAL EXTENSION OF THE BEAUTIFUL
9:37:43PM SKY VIEW PARK THAT IS DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO THE EAST.
9:37:46PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL LANDS MANAGEMENT ALSO
9:37:50PM AGREES AND SAID IT WOULD, QUOTE, WORK WELL AS AN ADDITION TO
9:37:53PM SKY VIEW PARK TO THE EAST, BUT THAT WOULD BE A DECISION FOR
9:37:56PM THE CITY OF TAMPA SINCE THEY ARE THE GOVERNING BODY FOR THAT
9:37:59PM AREA, END QUOTE.
9:38:01PM 90% OF THE TREES COULD BE SAVED FOR A PARK.
9:38:06PM MOST LIKELY PRUNED, FERTILIZED, CARED FOR, AND REHABBED BACK
9:38:12PM TO WHAT THEY NEED TO BE.
9:38:14PM WOULD THE CITY BE WILLING TO CONFER WITH THE SELLER ABOUT
9:38:18PM THE POSSIBILITY?
9:38:19PM OTHER PARKS IN THE AREA ARE ALREADY OVERCROWDED.
9:38:22PM IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO RESERVE A PICNIC PAVILION AT THE
9:38:25PM NEARBY PARKS AND YET WE HAVE MORE AND MORE NEW HOUSING
9:38:28PM POPPING UP EVERYWHERE ON MacDILL, NORTH AND SOUTH OF
9:38:32PM GANDY.
9:38:32PM WON'T YOU PLEASE SLOW THIS DOWN TO ALLOW THE DIFFERENT
9:38:35PM DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER
9:38:37PM AND MAKE CERTAIN WE DON'T WASTE THIS GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY.
9:38:41PM PLEASE DENY THE REZONING TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
9:38:43PM THANK YOU.
9:38:51PM >> PAM SAID THE PARK WORD.
9:38:55PM I'M GOING TO BUILD A PARK.
9:38:57PM IT'S EXPENSIVE LAND, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A PARK ON IT?
9:39:00PM WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?
9:39:01PM PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PLAY THERE?
9:39:03PM MAYBE -- MAYBE WE CAN PUT TREES ON THIS PARK WITH THE
9:39:08PM MYTHICAL MITIGATION FUND THAT HAS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN IT,
9:39:13PM AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR PLACES TO PLANT TREES.
9:39:15PM MAYBE WE COULD DO THAT.
9:39:17PM IF THIS WAS A MOVIE, IF THIS WAS A MOVIE, THIS ROOM WOULD BE
9:39:20PM FILLED WITH ALL THE PEOPLE WHO RODE HORSES AT THE CIRCLE C
9:39:24PM RANCH, RIGHT?
9:39:24PM THEY WOULD BE LIKE, IT WOULD BE PACKED AND SOMEBODY ON THE
9:39:28PM BOARD ALSO RODE HORSES AT THE CIRCLE C RANCH AND HE TALKED
9:39:33PM TO HIS COUNCILMEN AND WOMEN AND SAID, LET'S SAVE CIRCLE C.
9:39:37PM WELL, THIS ISN'T A MOVIE.
9:39:38PM YOU CAN'T SAVE DREAMS.
9:39:40PM I CAN'T SAVE TREES SOMETIMES AND THEY DO A LOT FOR THE
9:39:43PM COMMUNITY BY SUCKING WATER UP AND SAVING US FROM GLOBAL
9:39:46PM WARMING AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE NEED.
9:39:49PM SO I CAN'T DEFEND DREAMS, BUT I CAN DEFEND THESE TREES AND
9:39:54PM I'LL GIVE YOU REASONS WHY.
9:39:56PM YOU JUST WENT THROUGH A MARATHON MEETING ABOUT A HOTEL THAT
9:39:59PM MIGHT ACTUALLY SORT OF KIND OF WORK THERE.
9:40:02PM IT'S ALL REALLY A MATTER OF OPINION.
9:40:05PM THIS THING DOESN'T FIT AT ALL.
9:40:07PM THIS IS JUST BLACK TOP GOING DOWN, NOBODY IS TRYING TO WIND
9:40:14PM THROUGH THE TREES.
9:40:15PM OH, THEY ARE DEAD.
9:40:16PM THEY ARE Bs.
9:40:17PM THEY ARE Cs.
9:40:18PM WHEN I HAD MY HEART CONDITION, I HOPE NOBODY THOUGHT OF ME
9:40:21PM AS A C, AND I THOUGHT THEY COULD BRING ME BACK TO A B PRETTY
9:40:24PM QUICK, AND THEY DID, THANK GOD.
9:40:25PM THERE ARE Bs AND Cs IN THAT PROPERTY THAT NEED TO BE
9:40:29PM PRUNED AND FIXED.
9:40:30PM MAYBE THE APPLICANT'S ARBORIST MIGHT NOT THINK SO,
9:40:34PM SURPRISINGLY, BUT IT CAN HAPPEN, RIGHT?
9:40:37PM YOU CAN GO IN AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET THESE TREES BACK TO
9:40:41PM SNUFF.
9:40:42PM I'M NOT ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO SAY NO TO THESE GUYS PUTTING
9:40:45PM APARTMENTS OR CONDOS.
9:40:47PM WE TALK ALL THE TIME ABOUT LOW-COST HOUSING.
9:40:50PM IS THAT JUST, WE'RE JUST TALKING.
9:40:53PM WE'RE GOING TO BUILD CONDOS THERE THAT WILL GO 300 GRAND A
9:40:57PM POP AND MAKE A LOT OF MONEY AND EVERYBODY WILL MAKE A LOT OF
9:40:59PM MONEY AND ALL THE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T COME TO
9:41:02PM THE MEETING BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GET UP TOMORROW TO GO TO
9:41:05PM WORK, THEY ARE GOING TO SIT IN THEIR HOUSES AND THEY ARE
9:41:07PM GOING TO WATCH ALL THESE PEOPLE PULL OUT EXPENSIVE CONDOS
9:41:11PM AND SAY, WELL, THERE GOES SOME MORE TREES.
9:41:14PM HERE GO SOME MORE TREES.
9:41:17PM WE DON'T DO PARKS IN TAMPA.
9:41:20PM BENNETT SPRINGS IN LAKELAND, THAT IS AMAZING.
9:41:22PM IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, YOU SHOULD GO.
9:41:25PM THEY ARE REAL GOOD AT TAKING BLIGHTED LAND TO TURN IT INTO
9:41:29PM PARKS, BUT WE TAKE REALLY NICE PLACES AND BLIGHT THEM.
9:41:33PM WE TAKE REALLY BEAUTIFUL PLACES WITH THE TREES, CUT THEM
9:41:37PM DOWN AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUT UP ANOTHER CONDO AND ANOTHER
9:41:40PM STRIP MALL.
9:41:41PM LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
9:41:42PM I'M A REASONABLE MAN.
9:41:47PM THEY ARE COMING HERE TO LOOK FOR 10%.
9:41:49PM THEY ARE LOOKING TO SAVE 10% OF THESE TREES.
9:41:53PM IT SAYS YOU'VE GOT TO SAVE 50, YOU GOT TO SAVE 50.
9:41:57PM NO, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO SAVE 50.
9:42:00PM WE'VE GOT A BIG OLD GRAND ON THE ONE SIDE.
9:42:02PM WE'VE GOT A BIG OLD GRAND OVER THERE, AND WE MIGHT SAVE
9:42:04PM THEM.
9:42:05PM WE DID SAVE THEM, RIGHT?
9:42:06PM WELL, NO, LET'S SAVE 2 GRANDS, 13 PROTECTED, AND 46 A, B, OR
9:42:15PM C TREES.
9:42:16PM AND GO AHEAD AND BUILD YOUR CONDOS.
9:42:20PM SAVE 50%, AND THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND MITIGATE WITH SOME
9:42:24PM REALLY BEAUTIFUL TREES THAT WILL GROW UP TO BE FANTASTIC
9:42:28PM TREES BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN THIS INTO PARK.
9:42:31PM YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUY THIS FROM THE GUYS.
9:42:35PM WE WON'T AS A CITY.
9:42:36PM WE SHOULD.
9:42:36PM WE SHOULD START THINKING ABOUT MICROPARKS.
9:42:38PM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE SOME STAYING POWER.
9:42:41PM NOBODY IS GOING TO REMEMBER THESE CONDOS WHEN THEY TURN INTO
9:42:44PM 30-YEAR CONDOS IN 30 YEARS BUT THEY'LL REMEMBER A MICROPARK.
9:42:48PM REMEMBER THE TREES WE PLANTED AND THIS IS A CRIME THAT THIS
9:42:53PM CIRCLE C RANCH IS GOING AWAY.
9:42:55PM IT IS A UNIQUE PLACE OF TREES THAT WILL NEVER, EVER BE BACK.
9:43:01PM IT WILL NEVER EVER BE BACK.
9:43:03PM AND WE'RE GOING TO LET THEM TAKE IT AWAY.
9:43:05PM I HOPE YOU DON'T.
9:43:06PM THANK YOU.
9:43:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
9:43:11PM WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
9:43:13PM >> BOB WHITMORE.
9:43:15PM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CITY TREE.
9:43:18PM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:43:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:43:26PM >> GOOD EVENING.
9:43:27PM MY NAME IS SHANIQUE.
9:43:29PM I CURRENTLY RESIDE 220 EAST MADISON HERE IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
9:43:32PM I SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE AS A RENTER IN
9:43:38PM DOWNTOWN TAMPA I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A SEVERE PROBLEM IN
9:43:40PM THE HOUSING MARKET IN THE AREA.
9:43:42PM NOT ONLY DO I LIVE IN THE AREA, BUT I ALSO HAPPEN TO BE PART
9:43:45PM OF THE WORKFORCE THAT HAS TO WAKE UP TOMORROW MORNING TO GO
9:43:48PM TO WORK.
9:43:49PM I AM A HEALTH CARE WORKER AT A CLINIC IN SOUTH TAMPA.
9:43:53PM COINCIDENTALLY TODAY I WAS SPEAKING WITH A COWORKER ABOUT
9:43:58PM HOW DIFFICULT IT IS AND HAS BEEN TO FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING
9:44:01PM CLOSE TO OUR OFFICE.
9:44:02PM I AM LUCKY ENOUGH TO RESIDE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I DO, BUT
9:44:05PM MOST OF MY COWORKERS COMMUTE UPWARDS OF 35 MINUTES JUST TO
9:44:09PM GET TO WORK ON TIME.
9:44:10PM THAT IS WITHOUT TRAFFIC.
9:44:11PM LOOKING FOR AFFORDABLE PLACES TO LIVE HAS BEEN A NIGHTMARE
9:44:16PM NOT ONLY FOR ME BUT MOST OF MY FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES IN THE
9:44:19PM TAMPA BAY AREA.
9:44:19PM MOST OF US HOPE TO EVENTUALLY BUY OUR HOMES AND WE'RE FORCED
9:44:24PM TO RENT ALL WHILE COMPETING WITH THE FAST INCREASING PRICES
9:44:26PM IN THE AREA.
9:44:28PM THIS PROJECT WOULD GIVE PEOPLE LIKE US THE CHANCE TO NOT
9:44:30PM ONLY DECREASE OUR COMMUTE SIGNIFICANTLY BUT TO BE ABLE TO
9:44:33PM ENJOY ALL OF THE CITY THAT WE SPEND MOST OF OUR TIME AND HAS
9:44:37PM TO OFFER.
9:44:38PM THE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT IS IN A WALKABLE COMMUNITY IS NOT
9:44:40PM ONLY A DESIRE BUT A NECESSITY.
9:44:43PM I HUMBLY AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THIS
9:44:46PM PROJECT.
9:44:46PM THANK YOU.
9:44:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:44:53PM >> GOOD EVENING.
9:44:54PM MY NAME IS ASHLEY RAMIREZ.
9:44:56PM I CURRENTLY LIVE AT 808 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET HERE IN
9:44:59PM DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
9:45:00PM FOR 23 YEARS I HAVE BEEN A LOCAL TO SOUTH OF GANDY.
9:45:03PM I AM AN ALUMNI FROM ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL, MADISON MIDDLE
9:45:06PM SCHOOL, AND BALLAST POINT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
9:45:09PM I HAVE SEEN SOUTH OF GANDY GO THROUGH MANY PHASES THROUGHOUT
9:45:12PM MY LIFE, AND THE MASS MAJORITY OF THESE CHANGES HAVE BEEN
9:45:13PM FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.
9:45:15PM WITH THE MANY CHANGES THAT HAVE COME, COST OF LIVING HAS
9:45:18PM RISEN.
9:45:18PM WITH THE INFLUX OF NEW ARRIVALS TO THE AREA AND MINIMAL
9:45:22PM RESIDENCES THAT SOUTH TAMPA HAS TO OFFER FINDING A PLACE TO
9:45:25PM LIVE IS VERY DIFFICULT.
9:45:26PM IT IS ACTUALLY THE REASON WHY I LEFT.
9:45:27PM AFTER LIVING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, I
9:45:30PM HAVE GROWN INTO LOVING THE URBAN LIFESTYLE THAT'S WITHIN
9:45:34PM WALKING DISTANCE FROM MY HOME.
9:45:35PM WALKING TO AREAS SUCH AS THE RIVERWALK REMINDS ME OF BEING
9:45:39PM HOME SOUTH OF GANDY AT BALLAST POINT AND PICNIC ISLAND.
9:45:43PM I BELIEVE IN SUPPORT IN THE INTERBAY COMMONS PROJECT BECAUSE
9:45:45PM ADDING MORE HOUSES FOR PURCHASE THAT'S AFFORDABLE WILL MAKE
9:45:48PM LOCALS LIKE MYSELF MOVE BACK HOME.
9:45:50PM I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
9:45:54PM THANK YOU.
9:45:56PM >> GOOD EVENING.
9:45:58PM MY NAME IS KRISTEN HELLIS.
9:46:00PM I CURRENTLY RESIDE AT 808 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET.
9:46:03PM I BELIEVE THAT TAMPA IS IN A HOUSING CRISIS.
9:46:06PM THERE'S JUST SIMPLY MORE DEMAND MOVING THERE THAN SUPPLY.
9:46:09PM I'VE BEEN LOOKING TO PURCHASE MY OWN HOME HERE THE LAST
9:46:12PM SEVERAL YEARS BUT UNFORTUNATELY PRICES IN SOUTH TAMPA HAVE
9:46:16PM SKYROCKETED YET I CONTINUE TO SEE MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES
9:46:19PM BEING BUILT, BEING PROPERTY MANAGEMENT MYSELF, THIS IS WHAT
9:46:22PM I DO SOLE FOCUS ON.
9:46:24PM WE JUST NEED MORE SUPPLY OF HOMES TO PURCHASE.
9:46:26PM WHAT I LIKE MOST ABOUT THE INTERBAY COMMONS PROJECT IS THAT
9:46:29PM IT IS A MULTIUSE.
9:46:30PM I ALSO LIKE THE FACT THAT I COULD WALK TO AND FROM MARKET,
9:46:33PM NEARBY RESTAURANTS, ET CETERA.
9:46:35PM AS I DO NOT OWN A VEHICLE, THIS WOULD BE THE PERFECT TYPE OF
9:46:38PM PROPERTY THAT I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR AND MYSELF INTERESTED
9:46:40PM IN PURCHASING.
9:46:41PM I BELIEVE THERE IS A HUGE DEMAND FOR THIS TYPE OF MULTIUSE
9:46:44PM PROPERTY ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA.
9:46:45PM I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND HUMBLY ASK THAT YOU GUYS APPROVE
9:46:48PM THIS PROJECT AND OTHERS LIKE THIS NOT ONLY THROUGH SOUTH
9:46:51PM TAMPA BUT IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
9:46:53PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.
9:46:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:47:01PM >> GOOD EVENING.
9:47:02PM MY NAME IS JOHNNY McCRAY.
9:47:04PM I AM AN AIR FORCE VETERAN THAT SERVED OUR GREAT NATION AT
9:47:09PM MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
9:47:10PM EVIDENCE OVERWHELMINGLY SHOWS THIS FINE CITY HAS A VERY
9:47:16PM SERIOUS HOUSING CRISIS.
9:47:17PM AND THIS IS NOT A HOUSING CRISIS FOR POOR PEOPLE NOR IS IT A
9:47:21PM HOUSING CRISIS FOR A PARTICULAR DEMOGRAPHIC.
9:47:25PM IT IS A HOUSING CRISIS FOR EVERYBODY, AND THAT INCLUDES
9:47:28PM DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM THAT ARE SERVING THIS
9:47:32PM GREAT NATION VIA THEIR TAMPA MILITARY BASE ASSIGNMENT.
9:47:35PM DESPERATELY NEEDED IN SOUTH TAMPA, I KNEW OF MANY MILITARY
9:47:39PM FAMILIES THAT RESIDE AS FAR AWAY AS ORLANDO BECAUSE HOUSING
9:47:45PM WAS MORE AFFORDABLE.
9:47:46PM HAVING SERVED FOR TWO DECADES, I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR
9:47:49PM EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT HAVING MILITARY MEMBERS RESIDE AS
9:47:53PM CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THEIR BASE OF ASSIGNMENT IS AS CRUCIAL
9:47:57PM TO MILITARY READINESS AS HIGH-QUALITY TRAINING.
9:48:01PM MILITARY BASES OFFERS A LOT OF SUPPORT TO MILITARY MEMBERS,
9:48:04PM CHAPLAINS, COUNSELORS, FINANCIAL HELP.
9:48:09PM ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE ON BASE AND FOR AN ARMED FORCE
9:48:12PM MEMBER, THE GREAT THING ABOUT LIVING NEAR A MILITARY BASE IS
9:48:15PM HAVING IMMEDIATE AND CLOSE ACCESS TO ALL OF THESE BENEFITS.
9:48:19PM DEMAND FOR HOUSING IS GREATER THAN SUPPLY, AND THAT NUMBER
9:48:23PM WILL CONTINUE TO RISE UNLESS A CHANGE OCCURS.
9:48:27PM I SUPPORT THE INTERBAY COMMONS PROJECT BECAUSE IT WILL
9:48:32PM PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN SOUTH TAMPA AND IT IS A PART
9:48:34PM OF THE CHANGE THAT IS NEEDED TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING SHORTAGE
9:48:37PM PROBLEM IN TAMPA.
9:48:39PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
9:48:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:48:49PM >> HELLO.
9:48:50PM I'M SALLY HARRIS.
9:48:51PM I RESIDE AT 4504 SOUTH FERNCROFT CIRCLE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:48:57PM AND I AM THE OWNER OF CIRCLE C RANCH.
9:49:01PM 41 YEARS THE OWNER OF CIRCLE C RANCH AND, YES, WE DO HAVE
9:49:06PM SOME TREES THAT ARE READY TO FALL DOWN, BUT WE HAVE SOME
9:49:09PM BEAUTIFUL TREES.
9:49:11PM CIRCLE C HAS BEEN AN ICON IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME.
9:49:15PM DURING THAT TIME, I'VE HAD PROBABLY A HUNDRED OFFERS TO BUY
9:49:21PM CIRCLE C.
9:49:22PM MANY OF THEM I WOULDN'T EVEN TALK TO.
9:49:24PM SOME OF THEM I HUNG UP ON, BUT I ENDED UP WORKING DILIGENTLY
9:49:28PM WITH ABOUT NINE OF THEM.
9:49:30PM CITY OF TAMPA WAS ALSO ONE OF THOSE INTERESTED.
9:49:34PM PUBLIX SUPERMARKET WAS ALSO ONE OF THOSE INTERESTED.
9:49:36PM I CAN GO ON TO NAME ALL THE HOUSING DEVELOPERS THAT WANTED
9:49:43PM IT.
9:49:44PM DURING COVID, I HAVE THIS ASKED BY THE BASE TO STAY OPEN SO
9:49:49PM THAT THEY COULD GO TO WORK AT CENTCOM.
9:49:52PM JUST MYSELF AND A SKELETON CREW TOOK CARE OF THE KIDS SO WE
9:49:55PM COULD DO THAT DURING COVID.
9:49:57PM WHAT I REALIZED IS CIRCLE C HAS BECOME VERY CRITICAL TO THE
9:50:01PM COMMUNITY AND THAT AREA BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY
9:50:04PM CHILD CARE CENTERS IN THAT AREA.
9:50:06PM SO WHEN DAVID CAME AND APPROACHED ME ABOUT HIS IDEA OF
9:50:12PM HAVING IT, I HAVE TO BACK STEP A MINUTE.
9:50:14PM DURING COVID, THE JCC USED OUR FACILITIES FOR THEIR YOUTH
9:50:20PM DEPARTMENT ON SUNDAYS AND WAS ABLE TO REALIZE THAT THE
9:50:23PM QUALITY OF WHAT THAT LAND IT WAS VALUE AND HOW IT WAS.
9:50:28PM WE REALLY LOVED WHAT THEY DID.
9:50:30PM SO THROUGH THAT I MET DAVID, AND DAVID SAID, SALLY, I WANT
9:50:34PM TO BRING THE JCC CHILD CARE CENTER HERE.
9:50:38PM I WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF RETAIL, AND ALSO BUILD A
9:50:42PM COMMUNITY.
9:50:43PM AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE BEST OF ALL OF IT.
9:50:45PM I RECENTLY GOT MARRIED.
9:50:48PM I'M 73.
9:50:50PM I WANT TO RETIRE.
9:50:53PM AND MY CHILDREN, GROWN CHILDREN DON'T WANT TO RUN CIRCLE C.
9:50:57PM SO WHEN I LEAVE, THE HORSES LEAVE BECAUSE IT WAS
9:51:00PM GRANDFATHERED IN WITH ME, SO THE ONLY THING IT CAN BE IS
9:51:04PM EITHER A CHILD CARE CENTER OR A DEVELOPMENT.
9:51:06PM SO I THINK THIS PROJECT WAS THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS.
9:51:11PM IT DOES IT ALL.
9:51:12PM IT LETS THE MacDILL STILL HAVE THE CHILD CARE.
9:51:15PM IT LETS THE TREES STAY IN MOST CASES, AND THE ONES HE'S
9:51:19PM GOING TO PUT BACK ARE AWESOME.
9:51:21PM AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
9:51:23PM SO I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS SO THAT I CAN RETIRE.
9:51:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
9:51:38PM >> YES.
9:51:39PM JACK ROSS HERE.
9:51:40PM I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN.
9:51:42PM >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
9:51:44PM DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT
9:51:46PM TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
9:51:49PM >> I DO.
9:51:50PM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
9:51:52PM >> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
9:51:53PM THANK YOU FOR HEARING THIS VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT.
9:51:58PM I'M JACK ROSS, CHIEF IMPACT OFFICER FOR THE TAMPA JCCs AND
9:52:02PM FEDERATION, 522 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE, TAMPA, 33606.
9:52:07PM I AM SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF INTERBAY COMMONS.
9:52:10PM YOU'VE HEARD FROM BOTH DAVID SCHER, FROM SALLY THAT WE WILL
9:52:15PM SOON BE DISPLACED AFTER OVER TWO DECADES OF PROVIDING
9:52:19PM PREMIER EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION AT THE SHALOM PROPERTY.
9:52:26PM WE WILL BE DISPLACED AS PART OF THE NATURAL GROWTH OF THE
9:52:29PM AREA, BUT WE FULLY INTEND TO CONTINUE TO SERVICE THE SOUTH
9:52:33PM TAMPA FAMILIES WITH EARLY -- PREMIER EARLY CHILDHOOD
9:52:38PM EDUCATION AND HAVE BEEN IN SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE
9:52:41PM SCHER DEVELOPMENT GROUP REGARDING CHILD LICENSING AND OTHER
9:52:46PM ASPECTS.
9:52:48PM BY WAY OF FULL DISCLOSURE, WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER SITES AND
9:52:52PM EVERYTHING WILL DEPEND ON COST, OF COURSE, AND TIMELINES.
9:52:56PM THERE'S A LOT INVOLVED WITH REGISTRATION, ET CETERA.
9:52:59PM BUT WE AT THE JCC AT FEDERATION ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS
9:53:03PM PROJECT.
9:53:03PM THANK YOU.
9:53:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE?
9:53:14PM >>THE CLERK: NO, CHAIR THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENT
9:53:17PM SECTION.
9:53:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:53:18PM MS. BARNES.
9:53:19PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
9:53:22PM THERE WERE A FEW COMMENTS REGARDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:53:26PM THERE IS NOT A NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN OR ANY FORMAL AGREEMENT
9:53:30PM REGARDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT
9:53:32PM ON THE RECORD.
9:53:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:53:35PM COUNCIL, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
9:53:40PM REBUTTAL, MR. MECHANIK.
9:53:46PM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS, DAVID MECHANIK AGAIN FOR
9:53:49PM THE RECORD.
9:53:52PM I WILL BE BRIEF, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF
9:53:56PM COMMENTS.
9:53:57PM I MEAN, YOU'VE HEARD FROM MS. HARRIS.
9:54:02PM I NEEDN'T REMIND CITY COUNCIL THAT YOU CAN'T DECLARE
9:54:08PM SOMEBODY'S PRIVATELY OWNED LAND AS A PARK, AND WHILE THAT
9:54:12PM MIGHT BE A NICE THING FOR THE CITY TO CONSIDER DOING, SHE IS
9:54:16PM ENTITLED TO REASONABLE USE OF HER PROPERTY AND ENTITLED TO
9:54:22PM SELL THAT PROPERTY FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO MAKE REASONABLE USE
9:54:25PM OF THAT PROPERTY.
9:54:26PM AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I THINK THAT IS THE PRIMARY
9:54:34PM CONSIDERATION FOR CITY COUNCIL THIS EVENING.
9:54:39PM I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. PETERIKA TO JUST COMMENT A LITTLE
9:54:43PM BIT MORE ON THE TREE WAIVER AND WE'LL BE BRIEF.
9:54:48PM >> RICKY PETERIKA.
9:54:50PM DARK MOSS.
9:54:51PM I APOLOGIZE.
9:54:58PM THIS ISN'T AS CLEAR AS I'D LIKE, BUT I WANT TO GO THROUGH,
9:55:03PM AGAIN, THIS IS A GRAPHIC STAFF SHOWED YOU OF THE TREES,
9:55:09PM WHICH THE B RATED TREES, WHICH STAFF DISCUSSED, ARE THESE
9:55:14PM GREEN DOTS HERE, HERE, HERE.
9:55:16PM THE EXCELLENT TREES ARE THESE DARKER GREEN DOTS, BUT THEY
9:55:19PM ARE USUALLY JUST CABBAGE PALMS -- OR ARE CABBAGE PALMS.
9:55:24PM ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH PRESERVING THESE GOOD TREES, AS
9:55:28PM STAFF MENTIONED IS THEY FALL AND MANY TIMES DIRECTLY IN
9:55:33PM PROPOSED BUILDINGS.
9:55:34PM SO PRESERVATION OF ONE TREE IN MANY CASES RESULTS IN THE
9:55:38PM LOSS OF TWO UNITS.
9:55:46PM I DID AN ANALYSIS.
9:55:47PM IF WE ATTEMPTED TO PROVIDE THE 50%, THEN IT WOULD RESULT IN
9:55:53PM A LOSS OF 13 TOWNHOMES OR A BUILDING, A COMMERCIAL BUILDING
9:55:59PM OR SOME COMBINATION THEREOF, WHICH IS ROUGHLY HALF THE
9:56:04PM ENTITLEMENTS WE'RE PROPOSING.
9:56:06PM AND BASED ON THAT LEVEL OF IMPACT TO THE REQUEST, WE'RE
9:56:12PM RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THE RELIEF FROM THE 50%.
9:56:16PM THERE'S NO CONSIDERATION GIVEN IN THE CODE CURRENTLY FOR THE
9:56:19PM FACT THAT THERE'S A LOWER RETENTION PERCENTAGE REQUIRED FOR
9:56:23PM THE COMMERCIAL PORTION, 25%.
9:56:27PM ALL SINGLE-FAMILY STYLE UNITS IN THE CITY FROM THE BASE TO
9:56:36PM K-BAR RANCH ARE SUBJECT TO THIS 50% PROVISION INDEPENDENT OF
9:56:40PM THEIR DENSITY.
9:56:41PM SO WITH THAT NUANCE, I REQUEST YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS
9:56:47PM WAIVER REQUEST.
9:56:51PM >> THANK YOU, RICKY.
9:56:52PM DAVID MECHANIK.
9:56:54PM WE WILL WRAP UP.
9:56:56PM MR. GARCIA WILL SPEAK FOR JUST A MOMENT.
9:56:59PM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO RESPOND TO MS. BARNES' COMMENT.
9:57:04PM WE NEVER SUGGESTED THAT THIS IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING
9:57:07PM PROJECT, BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT INCREASING HOUSING INVENTORY
9:57:17PM TENDS TO BRING THE VALUES DOWN OR MAKE HOUSING AVAILABLE FOR
9:57:24PM A LARGER GROUP OF PEOPLE, WHICH IS TO THE BENEFIT BECAUSE
9:57:29PM RIGHT NOW THERE IS A SHORTAGE.
9:57:31PM IN ANY CASE, WE DID NOT PROPOSE TO SUGGEST IN ANY WAY THAT
9:57:37PM THE PROJECT IS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:57:42PM I WOULD JUST ASK MR. GARCIA TO WRAP UP OUR PRESENTATION.
9:57:50PM >> JUST VERY QUICKLY, ONE OF OUR TARGET MARKETS FOR THIS
9:57:56PM CLEARLY IS MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE SERVICE MEMBERS.
9:58:01PM AS SOME OF THE COMMENTS WERE MADE, THE DAY CARE AND THE LACK
9:58:06PM OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A BIG ISSUE FOR SERVICE MEMBERS IN
9:58:10PM MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
9:58:11PM SO WE JUST THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT, GOOD FIT IN THE AREA.
9:58:15PM ALSO HAS THE POTENTIAL OF DECREASING TRAFFIC AS COMMUTES GO
9:58:20PM DOWN.
9:58:20PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:58:21PM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR ALL'S CONSIDERATION.
9:58:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:58:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WONDER IF THE PETITIONER EVER THOUGHT
9:58:30PM ABOUT INSTEAD OF REPLACING TWO INCH TREES, REPLACE WITH FOUR
9:58:34PM INCH TREES.
9:58:37PM >> RICKY PETERIKA.
9:58:40PM WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT WITH STAFF AND AGREED TO INCREASE THE
9:58:43PM TREE CANOPY, OR THE CALIPER SIZE.
9:58:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOW MANY TREES WOULD YOU BE PLANTING
9:58:50PM THEN?
9:58:50PM WHAT IS THE CALCULATION FOR HOW MANY FOUR INCH TREES WE'RE
9:58:53PM GOING TO HAVE TO PLANT?
9:58:56PM >> WHAT WE DISCUSSED WITH STAFF AS MANY THAT WILL
9:59:03PM ACCOMMODATE TYPE ONE OR TWO TREES.
9:59:06PM IT'S NOT A CERTAIN NUMBER YET, BUT IT'S -- WE'RE AT A
9:59:11PM HUNDRED TREES APPROXIMATELY.
9:59:13PM BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON THE FINAL SITE PLAN DESIGN,
9:59:22PM COUNCILMAN.
9:59:23PM >> INCH PER INCH?
9:59:25PM >> TREE PER TREE I GUESS.
9:59:28PM SO WE GENERATED 230 TOTAL -- 230 TOTAL TREES AS PART OF THE
9:59:34PM MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS GENERATED FROM THE CURRENT SITE.
9:59:37PM WE'RE PROPOSING APPROXIMATELY 180 BACK.
9:59:42PM 100 OF THEM APPROXIMATELY WILL BE TWICE THE SIZE RESULTING
9:59:47PM IN DOUBLE THE TREE CREDIT.
9:59:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MIRANDA, MAYBE YOU WANT TO INQUIRE OF
9:59:57PM STAFF BECAUSE THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE IT MIGHT CHANGE THE TREE
10:00:00PM TABLE OR DOES IT?
10:00:01PM DOES IT AFFECT THE SITE PLAN IN TERMS OF REPLACEMENTS?
10:00:06PM HOW WOULD THAT BE NOTATED IS MY QUESTION?
10:00:11PM >> ERIN MAEHR, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:00:13PM THEY DO HAVE A NOTE UNDER NATURAL RESOURCES ALREADY ON THE
10:00:16PM SITE PLAN STATING THAT ALL TYPE ONE REPLACEMENT TREES SHALL
10:00:19PM BE A MINIMUM OF FOUR INCH CALIPER.
10:00:22PM THAT'S JUST THE TYPE ONE TREES, AND THAT'S DUE TO
10:00:30PM AVAILABILITY IN NURSERIES.
10:00:32PM SO WHEREVER POSSIBLE THEY WERE GOING TO DO FOUR INCH
10:00:35PM CALIPER.
10:00:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:00:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA ASKED THAT QUESTION.
10:00:41PM I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE B TREES.
10:00:42PM WE GOT THAT ANSWERED.
10:00:43PM MR. MECHANIK, YOU SAID NOT AFFORDABLE.
10:00:46PM MR. GARCIA SAYS AFFORDABLE.
10:00:47PM I'M KIND OF CONFUSED.
10:00:49PM IS IT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR NOT?
10:00:50PM IT'S JUST HOUSING.
10:00:52PM >> IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE IN THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF THAT WORD.
10:00:58PM WE NEVER INTENDED TO CONVEY THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
10:01:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:01:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION OF RICKY PLEASE,
10:01:10PM MR. PETERIKA.
10:01:10PM THE PUBLIC IN PUBLIC COMMENT THEY REQUESTED THAT SOMEONE TRY
10:01:22PM TO BRING THESE FAILING TREES BACK TO GOOD HEALTH.
10:01:29PM SO PART A, IS THAT POSSIBLE?
10:01:32PM WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO DO THAT?
10:01:34PM PART B IS, YOU'RE BRINGING, YOU SAID, A DIVERSITY OF TREES,
10:01:38PM BUT THERE STILL IS THAT MAYBE pH PROBLEM, SO HOW WILL THAT
10:01:45PM AFFECT THE TREES YOU PUT IN AND ALSO THE GRAND OAKS THAT
10:01:48PM YOU'RE SAVING?
10:01:50PM >> COUNCIL, PART ONE, YES, THERE IS A POTENTIAL TO IMPROVE
10:01:54PM THE HEALTH OF PRESERVED TREES, AND WE WILL NEED TO BECAUSE
10:01:59PM WE ARE PRESERVING SOME.
10:02:03PM IN THIS CASE OR IN THE CASE WHERE THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENT
10:02:06PM SITE PLAN.
10:02:07PM THE STEPS THAT I STARTED TAKING, WHICH WAS A SOIL TEST, ARE
10:02:11PM BEGINNING TO START THAT PROCESS.
10:02:12PM SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED NUTRIENTS THAT COULD BE -- THAT NEED TO
10:02:17PM BE INCLUDED IN A FERTILIZATION SPEC, AND WE IDENTIFIED MAYBE
10:02:23PM NOT TOO LOW BUT LOWER THAN I EXPECTED pH.
10:02:28PM ANY DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED WOULD LIKELY INCREASE THE pH
10:02:32PM ANYWAYS BECAUSE WE WOULD BE INCORPORATING CONCRETE AND THAT
10:02:36PM WOULD RAISE THE pH.
10:02:38PM SO THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE PROPOSED TREES BEING MORE
10:02:46PM ACCLIMATED TO A LESS ACID SOIL.
10:02:50PM STILL PROBABLY BE SOMEWHAT ACID, BUT WITHIN A TOLERABLE
10:02:53PM RANGE.
10:02:53PM SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO EXACTLY WHAT THAT WILL BE WITHOUT GOING
10:02:56PM THROUGH A FERTILIZATION SPECIFICATION, BUT WE'RE GOING IN
10:03:00PM THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
10:03:01PM WE'RE NOT ALREADY TOO ALKALINE THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO
10:03:05PM BRING THAT DOWN.
10:03:06PM THAT WOULD BE A MORE CHALLENGING SCENARIO.
10:03:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: QUESTION OF MR. MECHANIK, PLEASE.
10:03:15PM MS. HARRIS TESTIFIED THAT SHE WAS GRANDFATHERED IN TO HAVING
10:03:26PM HORSE STABLES THERE.
10:03:27PM CAN YOU JUST TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS?
10:03:32PM >> I'M SORRY, I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T
10:03:36PM REPRESENTED HER.
10:03:37PM I'M REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER GROUP.
10:03:40PM ALTHOUGH IT IS COMMONLY UNDERSTOOD THAT IF YOU ESTABLISH A
10:03:45PM USE THAT IS LEGAL AT THE TIME AND THE CODE CHANGES SO THAT
10:03:52PM IT NO LONGER ALLOWS HORSES TO BE ON THE PROPERTY, YOU WOULD
10:03:55PM BE GRANDFATHERED IN.
10:03:56PM BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE PARTICULARS THERE.
10:03:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN SOMEBODY FROM LEGAL MAYBE JUST CONFIRM
10:04:02PM THAT IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO KEEP IT IN THE CURRENT --
10:04:07PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:04:09PM SO I'M UNAWARE OF FORMAL DECISION.
10:04:14PM ADDITIONAL RESEARCH WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE ESTABLISHING THAT
10:04:17PM USE IS LEGAL NONCONFORMING.
10:04:20PM I'M UNAWARE IF IT'S LEGAL CONFORMING OR NONCONFORMING.
10:04:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:04:29PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:04:30PM >> SECOND.
10:04:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
10:04:33PM MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:04:35PM ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED.
10:04:39PM MOTION PASSES.
10:04:39PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
10:04:41PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:04:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:04:44PM I WOULD LIKE TO READ THE ORDINANCE HERE.
10:04:48PM AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
10:04:50PM CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
10:04:52PM VICINITY OF 624 INTERBAY BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:04:57PM FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
10:04:59PM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 60 RESIDENTIAL, AS MUCH TO
10:05:02PM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED,
10:05:05PM DAY CARE CENTER, STRIP SHOPPING CENTER, INCLUDING CN USES,
10:05:09PM MEDICAL OFFICE AND RESTAURANT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:05:12PM ALSO, I FIND THAT THERE COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE GOALS,
10:05:15PM OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
10:05:21PM SPECIFICALLY, ALTHOUGH THE PROPOSED REZONING WOULD BE AN
10:05:23PM ENCROACHMENT OF COMMERCIAL USES IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA DUE TO
10:05:26PM THE FACT THAT IT DOES NOT MEET LOCATIONAL CRITERIA, THE
10:05:30PM PROPOSED PD DOES PROVIDE A RANGE OF USES NEAR HOUSING AND
10:05:34PM WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE DIVERSE HOUSING OPTIONS IN THE SOUTH
10:05:37PM TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAND USE POLICIES
10:05:40PM 1.1.8 AND 1.2.8.
10:05:44PM ALSO COMPLIANCE WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 27-136
10:05:50PM PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN PROMOTES OR
10:05:53PM ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION,
10:05:57PM CHARACTER, AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING
10:05:59PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:06:00PM PROPOSED USES PROMOTES THE EFFICIENT AND SUSTAINABLE USE OF
10:06:02PM LAND AND INFRASTRUCTURE, ALSO REGARDING ANY WAIVERS,
10:06:06PM COMPLIANCE WITH 27-1394.
10:06:09PM THE DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS UNIQUE AND
10:06:12PM THEREFORE IN NEED OF WAIVERS.
10:06:13PM THE REQUESTED WAIVERS WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE WITH
10:06:16PM OR INJURE THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS.
10:06:18PM THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE WAIVERS.
10:06:21PM THAT IS MY MOTION.
10:06:23PM >> SECOND.
10:06:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
10:06:25PM MANISCALCO.
10:06:26PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:06:29PM ANY COMMENT?
10:06:30PM I'LL GO WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:06:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OVERALL, I THINK THE PROJECT IS INCREDIBLY
10:06:37PM COOL, BUT 10% OF TREES JUST GETS ME.
10:06:42PM AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE COULDN'T JUST HAVE FEWER TOWNHOMES.
10:06:46PM AND SAVE JUST A FEW MORE TREES.
10:06:48PM IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE PRETTY SHOEHORNED ON THE LOT.
10:06:52PM SO THERE WAS ROOM FOR SPACE.
10:06:59PM THIS IS A DIFFICULT ONE, BUT I CAN'T SUPPORT 10%.
10:07:02PM I JUST CAN'T DO IT.
10:07:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:07:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE TREES EITHER.
10:07:10PM THE SITUATION WITH THIS, THOUGH, IS THAT BASED ON TESTIMONY
10:07:14PM WE GOT ANYWAY IT CAN'T STAY AS IT IS.
10:07:17PM THE CITY HAS NO MONEY TO BUY PARKS, UNFORTUNATELY.
10:07:19PM I WISH WE DID, BUT I PRESUME THAT THE CITY REFUSED IT OR
10:07:25PM COULDN'T AFFORD TO BUY IT.
10:07:27PM THERE IS AN OWNER WHO IS LOOKING TO PLANT DIVERSITY OF TREES
10:07:33PM AND TRY TO SAVE WHAT TREES THEY CAN INCLUDING THE GRAND
10:07:35PM OAKS.
10:07:36PM AND ALSO BRING A SCHOOL THERE THAT'S NEEDED BY MacDILL.
10:07:40PM IT COULD GO TO A DEVELOPER JUST BUILDS HOUSING AND DOESN'T
10:07:45PM BUILD -- DIDN'T BUILD A SCHOOL.
10:07:48PM THERE ARE THINGS I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT WITH, BUT IT COULD
10:07:57PM ALSO BE A LOT WORSE.
10:08:01PM I'D RATHER APPROVE SOMETHING INSTEAD OF GETTING SOMETHING
10:08:04PM WORSE BACK.
10:08:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
10:08:06PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:08:12PM >> IS THERE A SECOND?
10:08:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:08:15PM >> CARLSON?
10:08:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:08:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:08:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:08:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:08:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:08:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
10:08:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:08:28PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
10:08:35PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JANUARY 19th,
10:08:39PM 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
10:08:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:04:38PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.
10:08:48PM FILE REZ 22-75.
10:08:51PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT
10:08:53PM COORDINATION.
10:08:54PM THE NEXT CASE BEFORE YOU IS REZ 22-75.
10:09:01PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RM-24 AND PD TO PD FOR AN
10:09:06PM EMERGENCY SHELTER FACILITY, COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING,
10:09:10PM AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
10:09:11PM I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER THE PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING
10:09:19PM STAFF.
10:09:19PM >> SAM THOMAS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
10:09:48PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
10:09:48PM DISTRICT, THE TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE TAMPA
10:09:50PM HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
10:09:51PM THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT SITE AND
10:09:54PM THE SITE IS NOT LISTED IN AN EVACUATION ZONE.
10:09:59PM HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE, BOUND BY 7TH
10:10:01PM AVENUE, NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE, AND NORTH MORGAN STREET.
10:10:06PM THE SURROUNDING AREA IS A AREA OF COMMERCIAL USES WITH SOME
10:10:10PM MULTIFAMILY, MULTIFAMILY OVER HERE ASSOCIATION SINGLE-FAMILY
10:10:13PM ATTACHED DEVELOPMENT DOWN HERE, BUT ALMOST EVERYTHING ON THE
10:10:16PM OTHER WEST OF MORGAN STREET IS COMMERCIAL IN CHARACTER, THE
10:10:22PM BAPTIST TOWER UP HERE.
10:10:25PM HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE.
10:10:27PM THE SITE HAS TWO FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, IN THE RED IS
10:10:33PM THE COMMUNITY PARTIAL 35 AND THE DARK BROWN COLOR IS THE
10:10:36PM RESIDENTIAL 83 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, THE HIGH
10:10:40PM INTENSITY DENSITY MULTIFAMILY CATEGORY THAT YOU SEE WITH THE
10:10:43PM HIGH-RISES.
10:10:46PM SO THIS REQUEST IS A LITTLE BIT A LONG WINDED ONE FOR THE
10:10:51PM PLANNING COMMISSION ON THIS.
10:10:53PM THE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND EMERGENCY SHELTERS WERE
10:10:56PM APPROVED PREVIOUSLY ON THIS REZONING, WERE APPROVED
10:10:59PM PREVIOUSLY ON THIS SITE, IN 2019, AND PLANNING COMMISSION'S
10:11:04PM FINDING WAS INCONSISTENT DUE TO EMERGENCY SHELTER IS DEFINED
10:11:09PM IN THE DEFINITIONS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BUT IT IS
10:11:11PM NOT LISTED AS A USE IN CABLE 4-1.
10:11:15PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF PLANNED
10:11:19PM ZONING DISTRICTS, PDS CAN BE UTILIZED TO REFLECT THE
10:11:23PM STANDARD DEVELOPMENT THAT DIFFERS FROM THE STANDARD
10:11:25PM EUCLIDEAN DISTRICTS.
10:11:27PM HOWEVER, SINCE THE USE ON THE PD EMERGENCY SHELTER IS NOT
10:11:30PM LISTED ON THE LAND USE TABLE OR ON THE TABLE 4-1, THERE IS
10:11:34PM NO DIRECTION ON WHICH ZONING DISTRICT UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND
10:11:37PM USE DESIGNATIONS THIS USE BELONGS TO.
10:11:41PM SO THE PROPOSED REZONING STILL HAS EMERGENCY SHELTER LISTED
10:11:43PM ON THE SITE PLAN, PLANNING STAFF FOUND THAT THE
10:11:47PM INCONSISTENCY STILL APPLIES.
10:11:49PM ALTHOUGH THE USE OF AN EMERGENCY SHELTER IS INCONSISTENT
10:11:51PM WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE PROPOSED PARKING LOT IS
10:11:54PM CONSIDERED WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL 83 LAND USE DESIGNATION
10:11:57PM AND THE RM-24 ZONED PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
10:12:00PM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ALLOWS FOR CONSIDERATION OF
10:12:03PM OFF-STREET PARKING FOR COMMERCIAL USES IN THE RM-24 ZONING
10:12:06PM DISTRICT WITH APPROVAL OF THE REZONING.
10:12:08PM THE PROPOSED PD IS ALSO ELIGIBLE TO UTILIZE 5.1.6 WHICH
10:12:13PM ALLOWS TO SPREAD THE ALLOWABLE USES ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE
10:12:17PM WITH THE APPROVAL OF PD ZONING AND PARKING LOTS ARE ALLOWED
10:12:21PM IN THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
10:12:23PM THE PD PROPOSING REMOVING EXISTING DRIVEWAY APRONS ON THE
10:12:26PM SITE THAT CURRENTLY INTERFACE WITH MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT
10:12:29PM AND THE DESIGNATED 83 FUTURE LAND USE ON MORGAN STREET AND
10:12:35PM VEHICULAR ACCESS WILL BE FROM EAST HENDERSON AVENUE AND
10:12:39PM DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL 35.
10:12:40PM THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY DIRECTION OF THE
10:12:42PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH ENCOURAGES MINIMAL CURB CUTS, TO
10:12:45PM CUT MINIMAL CURB CUTS NEGATIVE THE IMPACT TO ADJACENT
10:12:51PM RESIDENTIAL USES.
10:12:52PM THE PD IS ALSO NOT REQUESTING ANY WAIVERS TO BUFFER OR
10:12:54PM SCREENING AND THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING THE APPROPRIATE
10:12:56PM VEHICLE USE BUFFERING ADJACENT TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN THE
10:13:00PM PROPOSED MARKING LOT.
10:13:01PM OVERALL THE REQUEST IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
10:13:03PM PLAN DUE TO THE USE ON THE SITE PLAN THAT IS NOT LISTED IN
10:13:06PM TABLE 4-1 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
10:13:09PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
10:13:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:13:11PM I HAVE A COUPLE.
10:13:12PM PLEASE AND THANK YOU.
10:13:13PM I SEE HERE THAT THIS IS THE APPLICANT OF THE SALVATION ARMY.
10:13:17PM WHEN I THINK OF EMERGENCY SHELTERS, I THINK OF SHELTERS
10:13:21PM DURING HURRICANES.
10:13:23PM IS THAT THE TYPE OF EMERGENCY SHELTERS THIS IS?
10:13:26PM >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS, NO, THAT IS TYPE OF EMERGENCY
10:13:30PM SHELTER.
10:13:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM JUST GOING BY THE NAME SALVATION ARMY.
10:13:33PM IT IS A REHABILITATION -- MAYBE I SHOULDN'T BE ASKING YOU
10:13:37PM THIS.
10:13:37PM I WILL ASK MY NEXT QUESTION.
10:13:40PM I BELIEVE WE HAVE SEEN THIS PROPERTY OR ADJACENT PROPERTIES
10:13:46PM BEFORE.
10:13:50PM >> REZONED IN 2019 FOR REZ 19-24.
10:13:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL ASK THE APPLICANT.
10:14:01PM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
10:14:02PM THANK YOU.
10:14:02PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:14:06PM SO THERE WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVERS THROUGH 19-24 THAT
10:14:14PM INCLUDES SITE PLANS, I'M SORRY, THE STAFF REPORT, TO REDUCE
10:14:20PM THE ALLOWABLE PARKING SPACES TO ALLOW LOCAL STREET DIRECT
10:14:28PM ACCESS, AN ARTERIAL COLLECTOR, ALLOW LOADING TO MORE THAN
10:14:35PM ONE CONTINUOUS MANEUVER AND REDUCE THE VUA ALONG THE NORTH.
10:14:42PM AND I AM GOING TO GO INTO MY PRESENTATION.
10:14:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.
10:14:47PM >>ANNIE BARNES: SO AGAIN REZ 22-75 IS TO REZONE FROM RM-24
10:14:53PM AND PD TO PD FOR COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING AND THIS IS
10:14:57PM FOR COMMERCIAL OFFICE.
10:14:58PM THE PROPERTY HAS THE USE OF EMERGENCY SHELTER AND
10:15:03PM PROFESSIONAL OFFICE IF THIS IS APPROVED IN SUMMER 2019.
10:15:07PM THIS NEW PROPOSED PD IS TO ADD LAND TO THE EAST AT HENDERSON
10:15:15PM AVENUE FOR ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL PARKING.
10:15:17PM THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 1.6 ACRES, AND 40 PARKING SPACES
10:15:24PM ARE REQUIRED, AND NOW 69 PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED.
10:15:30PM PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH HAVE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE
10:15:33PM USES, ZONED RM-24, TO THE EAST IS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL
10:15:40PM MULTIFAMILY, AND PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH, PARKING LOT,
10:15:46PM OFFICE, AND TO THE WEST ARE DEVELOPED WAREHOUSE AND PARKING
10:15:50PM LOT, WHICH SHOW SUBJECT PROPERTY, JUST NORTH OF EAST
10:15:59PM HENDERSON.
10:16:02PM SO HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING NORTH FROM EAST
10:16:05PM HENDERSON.
10:16:09PM THE SITE FURTHER ALONG EAST HENDERSON, AND ALONG THIS
10:16:17PM SUBJECT SITE ALONG NORTH MORGAN, FACING EAST ALONG EAST
10:16:25PM HENDERSON.
10:16:27PM YOU CAN SEE THE FERMAN PROPERTY, NORTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT
10:16:32PM SITE, ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL USES, AND WEST OF THE SITE IS
10:16:38PM THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE AND EAST HENDERSON
10:16:41PM AVENUE.
10:16:45PM DEVELOPMENT AND REVIEW STAFF HAS REVIEWED, FOUND THE REQUEST
10:16:50PM CONSISTENT, NO ADDITIONAL WAIVERS ARE BEING REQUESTED, JUST
10:16:54PM TO ADD THE PROPERTY.
10:16:57PM I'M AVAILABLE INFORM ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
10:16:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. BARNES.
10:17:03PM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE FOR THE RECORD.
10:17:39PM I WILL BE PRETTY BRIEF WITH THIS.
10:17:42PM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER AT FLORIDA
10:17:44PM AND HENDERSON, AS WE ALREADY WENT OVER.
10:17:47PM JUST OVER AN ACRE AND A HALF.
10:17:49PM IT CONSISTS OF THREE DIFFERENT PARCELS, ALMOST AN ENTIRE
10:17:52PM CITY BLOCK.
10:17:53PM A LITTLE BIT OF BARK GROUND ON THIS APPLICATION, I KNOW WE
10:17:56PM WENT THROUGH THE PRIOR REZONING.
10:17:57PM ALL OF THE LAND IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW WHICH IS ACTUALLY A
10:18:00PM SINGLE PARCEL THE SALVATION ARMY OWNS THAT WAS REZONED BACK
10:18:03PM IN 2019 UNDER REZ 19-24, FROM CI AND RM-24, AND THAT SAM
10:18:12PM REFERENCED EARLIER AS WELL AS BPO USES.
10:18:15PM OUR PROPOSED APPLICATION TODAY AS ANNIE MENTIONED IS ADDING
10:18:19PM THESE TWO RESIDENTIAL PARCELS BUT THE ONES SHOWN SHADED IN
10:18:23PM RED, ADDING THOSE TO THE EXISTING PD, AND THE REASON FOR
10:18:26PM THIS IS BECAUSE OUR CLIENT HAS OWNERSHIP OF THE PARCEL SHOWN
10:18:31PM SHADED IN BLUE, OLDER BUILDING THAT IS AN OLDER BUILDING AND
10:18:36PM WANTED TO DO AN ADAPTIVE REUSE THERE IN ITS EXISTING
10:18:39PM CONFIGURATION AND RIGHT NOW THE SITE IS SEVERELY
10:18:43PM UNDERPARKED.
10:18:45PM AGAIN, IT'S JUST A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT, WITH 26 SPACES
10:18:49PM MEETING ALL, NOT REQUESTING ANY WAIVERS, AND THERE ARE NO
10:18:53PM CHANGES PROPOSED TO WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BACK IN
10:18:56PM 2019.
10:18:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I.T., WE CAN SEE ON OUR MONITORS --
10:19:26PM I'M AFRAID THEY WON'T BE SEEING IT ON CTTV.
10:19:30PM CAN THE AUDIENCE SEE IT?
10:19:32PM NO.
10:19:33PM THAT IS MY CONCERN. [AUDIO DISTORTION]
10:19:35PM I.T., ARE YOU THERE?
10:19:36PM FIVE-MINUTE TIMEOUT.
10:20:29PM (RECESS)
10:26:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:43PM ALL RIGHT.
10:26:44PM THANK YOU.
10:26:45PM WE ARE NOW BACK IN SESSION.
10:26:46PM LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
10:26:49PM COUNCILMAN GUDES ARE NOW WITH US.
10:26:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHY DON'T WE GET -- JUST FOR THE SAKE OF
10:26:57PM THE RECORD AND THE TAPE, IF WE CAN TAKE ROLL CALL.
10:27:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S TAKE ROLL CALL AGAIN.
10:27:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
10:27:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
10:27:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:27:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
10:27:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
10:27:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
10:27:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
10:27:14PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
10:27:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:27:18PM MS. BARNES.
10:27:19PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:27:21PM SO THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAIVER ADDED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
10:27:26PM READING APPROVING THIS REZONING, SPECIFICALLY TO SECTION
10:27:31PM 27-132 REGARDING OFF-STREET PARKING, A, THE PROPERTY WITH
10:27:38PM COMMERCIAL MUST BE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT NOT SEPARATED BY A
10:27:41PM STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE COMMERCIAL USES IT SERVES SO A
10:27:45PM WAIVER WILL BE NEEDED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING IF
10:27:47PM APPROVING THE APPLICATION.
10:27:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:27:56PM >> SO THIS NEXT SLIDE DIDN'T AGE VERY WELL BECAUSE WE NOW
10:28:27PM WILL HAVE A WAIVER BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING BUT
10:28:30PM STAFF DID FIND THIS APPLICATION CONSISTENT, AND I WANTED TO
10:28:34PM GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND ON THE PLANNING
10:28:36PM COMMISSION FINDING, AND SAM DID A REALLY GREAT JOB WITH
10:28:40PM THIS, TOO.
10:28:40PM THIS IS JUST A TECHNICALITY BASED ON THE FACT THE EMERGENCY
10:28:43PM SHELTER IS NOT -- IT'S A DEFINABLE USE BUT NOT A LISTED USE.
10:28:49PM AS NOTED, THIS IS AN EXISTING USED CARRIED FORWARD FROM
10:28:53PM 19-24.
10:28:54PM WE ARE NOT PROPOSING AN EXPANSION OF THIS USE OVER THE TWO
10:28:56PM NEW PARCELS ADDED TO THE APPLICATION.
10:28:58PM THOSE ARE COMMERCIAL PARKING ONLY.
10:29:00PM AND THEN SAM MENTIONED THIS AS WELL, THAT PLANNING
10:29:02PM COMMISSION STAFF WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR PROPOSED PORTION
10:29:05PM OF THIS APPLICATION.
10:29:06PM AGAIN, REMOVING TWO OF THE CURB CUTS ALONG MORGAN AND HAVING
10:29:11PM CONSOLIDATED ONE ON HENDERSON, WE HAVE SUFFICIENT BUFFERING
10:29:14PM FOR THE SITE AS REQUIRED, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, VIA
10:29:18PM CROSSWALK, AND PROVIDING NEW ACCESS POINTS.
10:29:21PM AGAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BACKGROUND AS I PROMISED
10:29:24PM EARLIER WHY WE NEED ADDITIONAL PARKING.
10:29:26PM WE ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE THE WHOLE SENIOR BUILDING FOR
10:29:29PM ADAPTIVE REUSE, CONSTRUCTED IN 1926.
10:29:33PM THIS PHOTO IS FROM 1936.
10:29:35PM IN ORDER TO LEAVE THIS BUILDING WE NEED TO FIND PARKING
10:29:39PM ELSEWHERE. WE ARE PROPOSING THE CURRENT SITE TODAY HAS 13
10:29:42PM SPACES.
10:29:43PM SO IF WE ARE REDEVELOPING IT TO OFFICE USE IT WOULD REQUIRE
10:29:49PM USE SPACES BASED OFF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BIDDING, FOR
10:29:53PM THOSE ADDITIONAL 26, IF APPROVED, THE OTHER PD WOULD BE VERY
10:29:56PM HELPFUL IN DECREASING OUR DEGREE OF A PARKING REDUCTION THAT
10:30:00PM WE WOULD EVENTUALLY NEED TO PROPOSE A USE FOR THIS EXISTING
10:30:04PM SITE.
10:30:05PM THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION AND WE CAN ANSWER ANY
10:30:07PM QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALL.
10:30:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:30:10PM I HAVE ONE, BACK TO THE WAIVERS PRIOR.
10:30:13PM WERE THEY ON THE SPECIFIC PROPERTY IN QUESTION?
10:30:17PM >> THEY WERE ON THE PARCEL INCLUDED WITH REZ 19-24.
10:30:21PM THEY DON'T APPLY TO THE LAND THAT WE HAVE ADDED.
10:30:25PM THAT'S THE PARKING LOT.
10:30:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BUT NOW THAT THE LAND THAT'S BEING ADDED
10:30:28PM BEING DEFINED AS ONE?
10:30:32PM >> CORRECT.
10:30:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT WERE THE WAIVERS ON THE PRIOR, THE
10:30:36PM NEXT-DOOR PROPERTY IS IT?
10:30:38PM >> THE FIRST ONE IS REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FROM 48 TO 39.
10:30:43PM THE SECOND ONE, COMMERCIAL ACCESS TO LOCAL STREETS, ALLOW
10:30:47PM LOADING TO OCCUR IN MORE THAN ONE CONTINUOUS MANEUVER AND
10:30:53PM BUFFER AREA, WITH PAYMENT IN LIEU.
10:30:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO ARE YOU ASKING FOR MORE PARKING BECAUSE
10:31:00PM YOU ARE ADDING A LOT MORE SPACE?
10:31:06PM >>TYLER HUDSON: MY FIRM ACTUALLY IS REPRESENTING SALVATION
10:31:09PM ARMY IN 20-19 IN THIS REZONING.
10:31:13PM THEY ARE SINGLE PARCELS THAT THEY DIDN'T 2022 INCLUDE IN THE
10:31:16PM ORIGINAL PD.
10:31:17PM PETITIONER HAS NO INTENT TO SELL THEM AND NO INTENT TO
10:31:20PM DEVELOP THEM.
10:31:21PM THEY DID SELL THE OLD BUILDING, AND HE BOUGHT THAT.
10:31:27PM HE WANTS TO DEVELOP THAT AS ADAPTIVE REUSE.
10:31:31PM THE ONLY PARKING SPACES AT THAT OLD SENIOR BUILDING DON'T
10:31:36PM MEET STANDARDS.
10:31:37PM WE HAVE A PENDING APPLICATION TO TRY TO MAKE THOSE LEGALLY
10:31:41PM NONCONFORMING, BUT DUE TO SOME PERMIT APPLICATIONS THE
10:31:44PM SALVATION ARMY FILED THAT MIGHT BE IN JEOPARDY.
10:31:46PM SO IT'S POSSIBLE THE WHOLE SENIOR BUILDING WILL HAVE NO
10:31:50PM PARKING AT ALL ON-SITE.
10:31:51PM SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS UTILIZE THIS OFF-SITE PARKING
10:31:54PM FOR THE WHOLE SENIOR BUILDING BY ADDING THOSE LANDS INTO THE
10:31:58PM EXISTING SALVATION ARMY PD.
10:31:59PM BUT THE NEW LAND IS 27-136 TO WAIVE THE ADJACENT.
10:32:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND I WANT TO TRY TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND
10:32:14PM IT.
10:32:14PM YOU ARE GOING TO BE HAVING PEOPLE PARKING IN ONE LOT ACROSS
10:32:18PM THE STREET TO GET TO ANOTHER BUILDING?
10:32:20PM >>TYLER HUDSON: YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
10:32:22PM AND WHETHER THIS OFF-SITE PARKING IS USED FOR THE WHOLE
10:32:24PM SENIOR BUILDING ZONING, THAT WOULD BE SEPARATE.
10:32:26PM THAT WOULD GO THROUGH A SEPARATE PROCESS, A DESIGN
10:32:29PM EXCEPTION.
10:32:30PM BUT THAT'S CORRECT.
10:32:33PM HE HAS A LEASE ALREADY IN PLACE, CONDITIONAL ON WHAT HAPPENS
10:32:36PM HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE MINUTES, BUT A LEASE FOR THIS LAND
10:32:40PM FROM THE SALVATION ARMY, THEY ARE THE LANDLORD, HE IS THE
10:32:43PM TENANT, AND HIS BUILDING IS OUTSIDE OF THIS, BUT IT'S THAT
10:32:48PM WAY.
10:32:48PM IT'S JUST DIAGONAL, ONE BLOCK DIAGONAL.
10:32:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
10:32:52PM >>TYLER HUDSON: THE 20,000-ISH SQUARE FOOT BUILDING HAS
10:32:59PM EXTREMELY LIMITED -- ESSENTIALLY NO TECHNICALLY COMPLIANT
10:33:03PM ON-SITE PARKING, AND IT'S ALSO UNPROTECTED.
10:33:05PM IT'S ACTUALLY NOT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
10:33:07PM WE WANT TO KEEP THE BUILDING AS IT IS.
10:33:09PM IT'S PRETTY WELL BUILT.
10:33:11PM YOU CAN BASICALLY PUT CARS ON THE ROOF.
10:33:12PM BUT TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME PARKING.
10:33:15PM I AM USUALLY HERE ASKING FOR PARKING REDUCTIONS.
10:33:18PM MIGHT BE ASKING FOR THEM LATER THIS EVENING.
10:33:20PM WE NEED TO ESTABLISH SOME PARKING.
10:33:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND I GATHER THAT.
10:33:24PM I GATHER THAT.
10:33:26PM THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD EARLIER ARE KIND OF IRRELEVANT
10:33:31PM ABOUT IT BEING AN EMERGENCY SHELTER.
10:33:33PM LET'S PUT THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
10:33:35PM WHAT KIND OF SAFETY MEASURES ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IN PLACE
10:33:37PM FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT NOW HAVE TO PARK IN ONE SECTION TO
10:33:42PM CROSS THE STREET, GO TO ANOTHER BUILDING?
10:33:45PM >>TYLER HUDSON: WELL, THERE'S EXISTING SIDEWALKS.
10:33:48PM THAT WAS IMPROVED WHEN THE SITE GOT REDEVELOPED, YOU HAD
10:33:52PM SALVATION ARMY OFFICE BUILDING, THE LODGE, NOW EVERYTHING
10:33:55PM HAS BEEN CONSOLIDATED INTO THE BUILDING ON THE RIGHT WHICH
10:33:58PM IS THAT BUILDING, WHICH IS NOT OPERATIONAL TODAY.
10:34:01PM SO THERE ARE SIDEWALKS IN PLACE, AND THE CODE REQUIRES IF WE
10:34:04PM WERE TO COUNT THIS OFF-SITE PARKING AS PART OF THE WHOLE
10:34:08PM SENIOR BUILDING ZONING PARKING ASPECT, IT WOULD PROBABLY GET
10:34:15PM COORDINATED, BUT RIGHT NOW THE SIDEWALKS ARE IN PRETTY GOOD
10:34:18PM SHAPE. I LIVE A COUPLE BLOCKS AWAY. I DRIVE BY IT
10:34:20PM CONSTANTLY, AND IT'S A PRETTY CLEAR PATH TO GET THERE.
10:34:23PM IT'S HALF OF ONE BLOCK, HALF OF ANOTHER BLOCK, AND YOU ARE
10:34:27PM AT THE WHOLE SENIOR BUILDING.
10:34:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LEGALLY, IF I AM ASKING THE WRONG POINTS,
10:34:32PM TELL ME.
10:34:33PM THERE'S OTHER PLACES AROUND THE CITY WHERE THEY HAVE A
10:34:35PM PARKING LOT ON ONE SITE OF THE STREET BUT THEIR MAIN
10:34:38PM BUILDING IS ON THE OTHER AND SOMEBODY HAS TO CROSS THE
10:34:41PM STREET TO GET TO THE BUILDING. FLORIDA AVENUE IS A HEAVY
10:34:44PM USED TRAFFIC.
10:34:45PM I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF SAFETY
10:34:48PM PRECAUTIONS YOU ARE GOING TO PUT ON PLACE SO PEOPLE CAN
10:34:51PM CROSS FLORIDA AVENUE SAFELY.
10:34:52PM >>TYLER HUDSON: THERE'S A LIMIT TO WHAT WE CAN DO.
10:34:54PM WE CAN'T ADD A STOP SIGN OR RED LIGHT.
10:35:00PM I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IN CONSULTATION WITH FDOT, I WILL BE
10:35:03PM CANDID, OUR OPTIONS ARE A LITTLE LIMITED AS FDOT CAN BE A
10:35:06PM LITTLE CHALLENGING TO DEAL WITH, BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE
10:35:09PM LIGHTING ON THE STREET AS A RESULT OF THE REDEVELOPMENT.
10:35:13PM THE WHOLE SENIOR BUILDING PERSPECTIVE.
10:35:16PM I'M SURE WE WILL INSTALL ADEQUATE WAY FINDING.
10:35:20PM THAT BUILDING IS A BENEFICIARY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
10:35:23PM HERE, BUT THAT IS NOT PART OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEFORE
10:35:25PM YOU.
10:35:25PM THE ONLY PROPERTY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REZONING ARE THESE
10:35:28PM THREE LOTS THAT WE WANT TO ADD AND JUST TURN INTO A PARKING
10:35:32PM LOT.
10:35:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:35:33PM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
10:35:36PM THANK YOU.
10:35:42PM DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION?
10:35:43PM >>TYLER HUDSON: YES, SIR.
10:35:45PM >> IS THERE ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK,
10:35:48PM GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:35:52PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:35:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
10:35:57PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:35:59PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:36:02PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:36:05PM ANY NAYS?
10:36:07PM NO, THE MOTION PASSES.
10:36:09PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:36:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
10:36:16PM READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
10:36:19PM GENERAL VICINITY OF 1603 NORTH FLORIDA EAVE AND 318 AND 320
10:36:23PM EAST HENDERSON AVENUE, CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA MORE
10:36:26PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:36:28PM CLASSIFICATION RM-24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND PD PLANNED
10:36:32PM DEVELOPMENT, TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, EMERGENCY SHELTER
10:36:34PM FACILITY, COMMERCIAL, OFF-STREET PARKING, AND
10:36:37PM BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:36:42PM >> SECOND.
10:36:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAS THERE AN ADDITIONAL WAIVER THAT NEEDED
10:36:45PM TO BE ADDED TO THAT?
10:36:47PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:36:49PM I JUST WOULD LIKE FOR THE RECORD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
10:36:51PM ADDITIONAL WAIVER 27-132 FOR OFF-STREET COMMERCIAL PARKING
10:36:59PM IS INTRODUCED INTO THE RECORD AS WELL.
10:37:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HEREBY INCORPORATE IT.
10:37:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED
10:37:08PM BY MANISCALCO.
10:37:09PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:37:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:37:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:37:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:37:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:37:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:37:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:37:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:37:23PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:37:26PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JANUARY
10:37:29PM 19th, 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:37:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:37:38PM NUMBER 5, REZ 22-90.
10:37:43PM MS. BARNES.
10:37:44PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:37:45PM THE NEXT ITEM BEFORE YOU IS REZ 22-90.
10:37:49PM IT'S REZONE FROM PD TO PD FOR BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE
10:37:53PM LOCATED AT 2500 WEST AZEELE STREET.
10:37:56PM I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER THE PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING
10:37:59PM COMMISSION.
10:37:59PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
10:38:15PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
10:38:19PM DISTRICT AND IN THE PALMA CEIA WEST NEIGHBORHOOD, THE
10:38:21PM CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS LOCATED NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE AT
10:38:23PM THE CORNER OF WEST AZEELE AND SOUTH ARMENIA AVENUE. HYDE
10:38:27PM PARK IS THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY AND WITHIN A LEVEL
10:38:31PM C EVACUATION ZONE.
10:38:34PM HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THE SITE BOUNDED
10:38:38PM BY SOUTH ARMENIA AND WEST AZEELE STREET, VERY URBAN IN
10:38:41PM CHARACTER, IT'S A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, SINGLE-FAMILY
10:38:45PM ATTACHED, AND SOME SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNIT.
10:38:48PM TO THE EAST OF THE SITE IS SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE ALONG THE
10:38:57PM SOUTH HOWARD CORRIDOR.
10:38:58PM HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
10:38:58PM THE SITE IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
10:39:02PM DESIGNATION, TO THE EAST OF THE SITE IS FUTURE LAND USE IN
10:39:09PM THE AREA, DOWN SOUTH IN RED IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35, AND
10:39:12PM THEN THIS PURPLE HERE IS URBAN MIXED USE 60 WHICH IS EVEN
10:39:15PM MORE INTENSE THAN COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
10:39:21PM TO THE WEST OF THE SITE IS RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE
10:39:24PM DESIGNATION.
10:39:25PM AND THIS LIGHT BLUE COLOR DOWN HERE IS MEMORIAL HOSPITAL
10:39:28PM WHICH IS A PUBLIC SEMI-PUBLIC DESIGNATION.
10:39:31PM THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES AN FAR OF 0.86 WHICH IS
10:39:36PM CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE
10:39:39PM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION. THE REQUESTED INCREASE
10:39:40PM IN INTENSITY WILL MEET THE DIRECTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE
10:39:43PM PLAN WHILE STILL PROVIDING THE BALANCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
10:39:46PM CHARACTER THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SEEKS TO PROTECT, ALSO
10:39:49PM CONSISTENT WITH SEVERAL POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
10:39:50PM AS RELATES TO DEVELOPMENT WITHIN MIXED USE CORRIDORS.
10:39:53PM THE PD IS PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY WITH THE BUILDING ORIENTED TO
10:39:56PM THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY ALONG WEST AZEELE STREET AND
10:39:59PM PARKING TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
10:40:01PM PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS ARE PROVIDED TO THE EXISTING
10:40:03PM SIDEWALKS ALONG THE ADJACENT RIGHTS-OF-WAY.
10:40:05PM THE PROPOSED PD IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
10:40:07PM ANTICIPATED IN THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION, AND
10:40:11PM IT IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING
10:40:13PM DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
10:40:15PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
10:40:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:40:19PM THANK YOU.
10:40:19PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:40:25PM AGAIN THIS IS REZ 22-90, REQUESTING TO REZONE PROPERTY AT
10:40:29PM 2500 WEST AZEELE STREET FROM PD TO PD TO ALLOW FOR BUSINESS
10:40:36PM PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USE.
10:40:38PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 31,000 SQUARE FEET IN
10:40:42PM SIZE, LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST AZEELE STREET
10:40:51PM AND SOUTH ARMENIA AVENUE.
10:40:53PM THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO THE
10:40:55PM NORTH AND SOUTH, AND PD AND RM-16 ZONING TO THE WEST, AND PD
10:41:01PM ZONING TO THE EAST WITH RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED
10:41:06PM USES.
10:41:09PM BUILDING PLACEMENT IS LOCATED NORTH OF THE SITE, SURFACE
10:41:12PM PARKING LOCATED SOUTH AT GROUND LEVEL.
10:41:15PM THE PROPOSED USE REQUIRES 90 PARKING SPACES, AND 59 SPACES
10:41:20PM ARE BEING PROVIDED.
10:41:21PM A WAIVER IS REQUESTED, WHICH IS 34% REDUCTION.
10:41:27PM ADDITIONALLY, A WAIVER IS REQUESTED TO REDUCE THE LANDSCAPE
10:41:32PM BUFFER FROM 10 FEET TO 5 FEET AND REDUCE THE VUA BUFFER
10:41:37PM ALONG THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO THE EAST AND NORTH.
10:41:41PM OVERALL, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF FINDS THE
10:41:47PM REQUEST TO BE INCONSISTENT BASED ON THE REQUESTED WAIVERS.
10:41:54PM JUST TO FAMILIARIZE YOU WITH THE SITE, THIS IS THE SUBJECT
10:41:57PM SITE ON THE NORTH SIDE FACING SOUTH OF AZEELE, AND THIS IS
10:42:07PM THE CORNER OF AZEELE AND ARMENIA SHOWING THE SUBJECT SITE.
10:42:13PM THIS IS THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE LOOKING WEST.
10:42:18PM AND THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST FROM ARMENIA FROM THE SITE,
10:42:28PM EAST OF THE SITE, AS WELL AS PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF THE
10:42:33PM SITE.
10:42:37PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
10:42:38PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
10:42:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:42:43PM THANK YOU, MS. BARNES.
10:42:44PM >> KAMI CORBETT WITH HILL, WARD, HENDERSON.
10:42:53PM WE WILL BE VERY BRIEF GIVEN THE LONG DAY AND LATE HOUR THIS
10:42:56PM EVENING.
10:42:56PM I'M REPRESENTING APPLICANT EMI OFFICE WHICH IS A SINGLE
10:43:00PM PURPOSE ENTITY OWNED AND CONTROLLED BY EISENHOWER PROPERTY
10:43:01PM GROUP, A LOCAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, AND IF THIS
10:43:06PM LOOKS AND SOUNDS FAMILIAR IT MAY BECAUSE WE WERE JUST BEFORE
10:43:09PM YOU FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT EARLIER THIS YEAR WHICH WAS
10:43:11PM UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED AND WE HAD NO OPPOSITION FROM ANYONE IN
10:43:14PM THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:43:16PM AS ANNIE DID INDICATE, BECAUSE OF THE PARKING WAIVER THAT WE
10:43:19PM ARE REQUESTING, TRANSPORTATION HAS FOUND IT INCONSISTENT, IN
10:43:22PM ALL OTHER ASPECTS THIS APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT, AND TO
10:43:26PM ADDRESS THOSE WAIVERS, I ASK STEVE LUCE FROM EISENHOWER
10:43:27PM PROPERTY GROUP TO COME UP AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THOSE.
10:43:31PM >> STEVE LUCE, AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
10:43:38PM MR. CHAIR, AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:43:42PM ON THE ELMO, WHERE THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS, AS
10:43:45PM DESCRIBED BY BOTH PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF AND YOUR STAFF.
10:43:48PM PARKING WAIVER, THE REQUEST, THE JUSTIFICATION FOR IT, IS
10:43:53PM THAT FIRST OF ALL, SIZE OF THE BUILDING IS 27,000 SQUARE
10:43:57PM FEET.
10:43:57PM WE CURRENTLY HAVE 26 EMPLOYEES.
10:44:01PM AND WE ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH OUR HEADQUARTERS AT THIS
10:44:05PM LOCATION.
10:44:06PM WE DO WANT TO EXPAND IN THE FUTURE.
10:44:09PM AND IT'S A COMBINATION OF LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, DESIGN
10:44:13PM ENGINEERS, REAL ESTATE ACQUISITION. I'M A LAND PLANNER FOR
10:44:17PM THE COMPANY. WE DO A LOT OF WORK IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
10:44:21PM MANATEE COUNTY, DO A LOT OF TRAVELING WORK AS WELL.
10:44:24PM BUT THE WAIVER THAT SUPPORTS THE WAIVER IS AREAS IN GREEN,
10:44:32PM THERE'S ON-STREET PARKING ON AZEELE AND ARMENIA, CALCULATED
10:44:37PM AND WALK THE AREA ABOUT 50 SPACES.
10:44:39PM I DIDN'T GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SWANN, THAT AERIAL GRAPHIC,
10:44:44PM AND MORE ON-STREET PARKING SPACES NEARBY.
10:44:47PM THERE ARE ALSO BUS STOPS, ONE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET
10:44:50PM FROM US, ONE ABOUT ONE HALF BLOCK TO OUR SOUTH, BUS STOP
10:44:56PM OVER ON HOWARD, THREE BUS STOPS IN VERY CLOSE WALKING
10:44:59PM DISTANCE OF EACH OTHER.
10:45:02PM WE ARE GOING TO DO BIKE RACKS ON-SITE.
10:45:08PM I WILL SAY THAT THE PARKING THAT IS ON-STREET, IT MAY BE
10:45:11PM USED DURING THE EVENING AND WEEKENDS BY FOLKS THAT LIVE IN
10:45:15PM THE AREA.
10:45:16PM WE ARE BRINGING IN OFFICE SPACE TO THIS AREA.
10:45:20PM NOT A LOT OF OFFICE BUILDINGS IN THE AREA TODAY.
10:45:23PM WE WILL USE ON-STREET PARKING SPACES DURING THE DAY, AND AT
10:45:27PM NIGHTTIME, ON WEEKEND, RESIDENTIAL USES WILL USE THOSE
10:45:31PM ON-STREET PARKING SPACES.
10:45:33PM AND THE RETAIL USES THAT ARE OVER ON HOWARD, GETTING
10:45:37PM SPILLOVER ALSO AT NIGHT AND ON WEEKEND.
10:45:42PM SO WE THINK THERE'S A GOOD MIX OF USE OF THOSE ON-STREET
10:45:45PM PARKING, OFFICE, AND RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL USES THAT ARE IN
10:45:49PM THE AREA.
10:45:51PM I WOULD ADD THAT OF THE 59 PARKING SPACES THAT WE ARE
10:45:56PM PROVIDING, AND WE HAVE 26 EMPLOYEES NOW, AND HOPE TO GROW TO
10:46:00PM 44 IN THE FUTURE, WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NEVER COME
10:46:03PM INTO THE OFFICE, THEY ARE OUT IN THE FIELD AND INSPECTING
10:46:07PM OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT SITES, THEY COME IN EVERY ONCE IN A
10:46:09PM WHILE TO REPORT TO THE BOSS AND LET THE BOSS KNOW WHAT THEY
10:46:13PM ARE UP TO, WHAT THEY ARE FINDING, BUT THEY PRIMARILY
10:46:17PM COMMUNICATE TO US THROUGH TEXTING, CALLS, E-MAILS.
10:46:21PM WE ALSO HAVE FOLKS THAT WORK FROM HOME.
10:46:24PM WE ALSO DO SOME TRAVELING.
10:46:27PM AND TELECOMMUNICATING AS WELL.
10:46:30PM SO ANY GIVEN DAY THERE'S PROBABLY 20% THAT ARE NOT AT THE
10:46:34PM OFFICE.
10:46:35PM SO I THINK BETWEEN THE AGGREGATE, IN TERMS OF OUR KIND OF
10:46:41PM WORKFORCE, WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IN
10:46:44PM THE FUTURE, IS MORE THAN AMPLE PARKING ON OUR SITE, IN THE
10:46:48PM EVENT WE NEED MORE, THERE ARE PLENTY OF ON-STREET PARKING
10:46:52PM SPACES WITHIN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO OUR SITE.
10:46:55PM SO THAT I BELIEVE PROVIDES AMPLE SUPPORT FOR THE PARKING
10:47:00PM WAIVER.
10:47:02PM I DO WANT TO ADDRESS VERY QUICKLY THE WAIVERS REGARDING THE
10:47:08PM 10-FOOT BUFFER AND THE 8-FOOT VEHICLE USE AREA BUFFER.
10:47:14PM THIS IS A GRAPHIC SHOWING THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERING OF THE
10:47:18PM PROPERTY, OF OUR BUILDING, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING ON THE
10:47:20PM SITE.
10:47:22PM WE ARE IN DESIGN WITH OUR ARCHITECT.
10:47:25PM WHAT WE HAVE DONE, WE WANT TO DO IT, I THANK THE COMMISSION
10:47:29PM STAFF AND YOUR STAFF, TO BRING THE BUILDING UP TO THE
10:47:31PM STREET, TO ENCOURAGE WALKING, TO BRING LIFE TO THE STREET,
10:47:36PM AND WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH THAT.
10:47:40PM SO OUR BUILDING IS ABOUT 5 FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE.
10:47:43PM WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WIDEN THE SIDEWALK TO 10 FEET, AND SO
10:47:48PM THERE'S ENCOURAGEMENT FOR US TO GET OUT DURING THE DAY, WALK
10:47:53PM OVER TO HOWARD FOR A LONG LUNCH HOUR, AND WE THINK IT'S A
10:47:58PM GOOD APPROACH TO GIVING THE SORT OF URBAN FEEL FOR THIS
10:48:04PM CORNER LOCATION.
10:48:05PM THAT APPLIES TO BOTH THE 10-FOOT TO 5-FOOT BUFFER, ALSO
10:48:08PM BETWEEN THE 8-FOOT VISUAL USE AREA, VEHICLE USE AREA, AND
10:48:14PM REQUESTED TO GO DOWN TO 5 FEET.
10:48:15PM IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT BRINGING THE BUILDING UP TO THE
10:48:18PM STREET.
10:48:19PM THAT'S WHY WE ASKED FOR THAT WAIVER.
10:48:20PM SO THOSE ARE THE TWO PARKING WAIVERS AND WITH THAT HOPEFULLY
10:48:27PM WE HAVE YOUR SUPPORT.
10:48:28PM THANK YOU.
10:48:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:48:30PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:48:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THE ARCHITECT HERE FOR THIS PROJECT?
10:48:36PM >> YES.
10:48:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S A REALLY GREAT DESIGN.
10:48:39PM MY COMPLIMENTS.
10:48:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:48:42PM THANK YOU FOR THE 10-FOOT SIDEWALK.
10:48:43PM >> YES.
10:48:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK THAT TREES BE IN
10:48:49PM THERE SO THEY HAVE SHADE TO WALK ON THAT 10-FOOT SIDEWALK.
10:48:53PM >> OKAY.
10:48:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:48:56PM >> FINALLY, COUNCIL, WE DID RECEIVE ABOUT A HALF DOZEN CALLS
10:49:01PM FROM THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS DIRECTLY TO THE EAST, AND ALL
10:49:06PM OF THEM WERE THRILLED AND RELIEVED WE ARE BUILDING AN OFFICE
10:49:09PM BUILDING, NOT A BAR OR RESTAURANT OR ENTERTAINMENT VENUE.
10:49:12PM SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH THAT.
10:49:14PM AND WITH THAT WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:49:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT DOES CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION.
10:49:20PM THANK YOU.
10:49:21PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
10:49:23PM THIS?
10:49:24PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
10:49:26PM >>THE CLERK: NO.
10:49:36PM >> SECOND.
10:49:37PM >> MOTION TO CLOSE BY EVERYONE.
10:49:38PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:49:40PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:49:41PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:49:43PM WHO IS THIS, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:49:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL DO IT AGAIN.
10:49:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:49:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER REZ 22-90,
10:50:00PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
10:50:02PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:50:04PM 2500 WEST AZEELE STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
10:50:07PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
10:50:10PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
10:50:13PM DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, PROVIDING AN
10:50:16PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:50:16PM >> SECOND.
10:50:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND
10:50:20PM BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:50:22PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
10:50:23PM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE
10:50:26PM DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS.
10:50:27PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:50:28PM ON ALL ASPECTS.
10:50:29PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:50:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:50:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:50:36PM >>THE CLERK: I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.
10:50:38PM YES?
10:50:39PM OKAY.
10:50:39PM HURTAK?
10:50:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:50:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:50:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:50:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:50:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:50:47PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:50:50PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JANUARY
10:50:53PM 19th, 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:50:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6.
10:51:01PM FILE REZ 22-100.
10:51:02PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:51:06PM THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM FOR YOU IS REZ 22-100.
10:51:10PM REQUESTING TO REZONING 2401 WEST PLATT STREET FROM RM-24 TO
10:51:15PM PD FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY USES.
10:51:18PM I AM GOING TO TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING
10:51:20PM COMMISSION.
10:51:20PM >>SAM THOMAS: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
10:51:35PM THIS IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT IN
10:51:39PM THE SOUTH HOWARD NEIGHBORHOOD, CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP AT THE
10:51:42PM CORNER OF WEST AZEELE AND NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE, HYDE PARK IS
10:51:46PM THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY, AND LOCATED WITHIN A
10:51:49PM LEVEL C EVACUATION ZONE.
10:51:52PM THE AERIAL MAP WILL LOOK VERY FAMILIAR TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE
10:51:55PM IT'S JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE WE WERE JUST TALKING
10:51:58PM ABOUT, RIGHT THERE ON PLATT STREET JUST A LITTLE TO THE EAST
10:52:01PM OF ARMENIA AVENUE.
10:52:04PM AS I SAID JUST PREVIOUSLY THE AREA IS A MIXTURE OF USES,
10:52:08PM SOUTH HOWARD CORRIDOR, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA,
10:52:12PM SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
10:52:14PM THIS IS THE PUBLIX RIGHT HERE.
10:52:20PM HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
10:52:22PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE
10:52:25PM 35 DESIGNATION.
10:52:26PM THE AREA IS LARGELY COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
10:52:29PM IT DOES APPLY TO RESIDENTIAL 35 DESIGNATION WHICH IS HIGH
10:52:35PM DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DESIGNATION.
10:52:37PM WE HAVE URBAN MIXED USE 60 OVER HERE AND THEN THE LIGHTER
10:52:40PM BROWN COLOR IS THE RESIDENTIAL RM 20 DESIGNATION.
10:52:45PM THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES AN F.A.R. OF 2.0 WHICH IS
10:52:48PM CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER COMMUNITY
10:52:50PM MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION.
10:52:52PM SINCE THE EXCITE SEEDS F.A.R. 1.0, APPLICANT HAS AN
10:52:57PM AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.
10:52:58PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FIND THE INTENSITY IS CONSISTENT
10:53:00PM WITH THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THE
10:53:03PM REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH SEVERAL POLICIES OF THE
10:53:05PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS RELATES TO DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE
10:53:07PM MIXED USE CORRIDOR.
10:53:08PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES THE USES ALONG MIXED
10:53:11PM CORRIDORS TO BE ORIENTED TO THE STREET BY FACING TO THE
10:53:16PM FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
10:53:17PM THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING AN ENTRANCE ALONG SOUTH MOODY
10:53:19PM AVENUE AND SIDEWALK ACTIVITY ADJACENT RIGHTS-OF-WAY MEETING
10:53:22PM THE INTENT OF THE MIXED USE CORRIDOR POLICY.
10:53:24PM THE REQUEST ALSO SUPPORTS THE MANY POLICIES IN THE
10:53:26PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING THE CITY'S
10:53:29PM POPULATION.
10:53:29PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON VACANT AND
10:53:32PM UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO ACCOMMODATE THE HOUSING SUPPLIES
10:53:35PM NEEDED FOR TAMPA'S PRESENT AND FUTURE POPULATION.
10:53:38PM THE PD IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
10:53:40PM ANTICIPATED UNDER THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION AND
10:53:43PM IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING
10:53:46PM DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
10:53:47PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
10:53:48PM ANY QUESTIONS?
10:53:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:53:52PM MS. BARNES?
10:53:56PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:53:58PM AGAIN, THIS IS TO REZONE 2401 WEST PLATT STREET FROM RM-24
10:54:05PM TO PD FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY USES.
10:54:07PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 6,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.
10:54:17PM IT IS LOCATED NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF WEST PLATT
10:54:20PM STREET AND SOUTH MOODY AVENUE.
10:54:23PM IT'S SURROUNDED WITH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES, MOST
10:54:28PM EXISTING COMMERCIAL USES ARE ALONG BOTH SIDE OF WEST PLATT
10:54:31PM STREET.
10:54:32PM THERE IS A PUBLIX GROCERY STORE AS WELL AS A RESIDENTIAL
10:54:37PM MULTIPLE FAMILY USES, AND PROPERTY ZONED CG CORRECTLY EAST
10:54:43PM OF THE PROPERTY WITH BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
10:54:47PM THE SUBJECT APPLICATION REQUESTS APPROVAL OF APPROXIMATELY
10:54:50PM 12,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH 12 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
10:54:54PM UNITS.
10:54:56PM A TOTAL OF 21 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED, AND 11 SPACES ARE
10:55:00PM BEING PROVIDED.
10:55:02PM A 48% REDUCTION.
10:55:04PM ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER TO ALLOW
10:55:08PM VEHICULAR BACKUP FROM 6 FEET TO 5.5 FEET, AND THE APPLICANT
10:55:12PM IS ALSO REQUESTING A THIRD WAIVER TO PROVIDE ONLY 50 SQUARE
10:55:17PM FEET OF GREEN SPACE PER UNIT AS REQUIRED 750 GREEN SPACE PER
10:55:22PM UNIT.
10:55:24PM THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TWO AFFORDABLE DWELLING UNITS
10:55:28PM RESTRICTED FOR RENTAL OCCUPANCY FOR A PERIOD OF 30
10:55:32PM CONSECUTIVE YEARS, AND THIS IS PART OF THE BONUS PROVISION
10:55:35PM AGREEMENT.
10:55:38PM SO AS MR. THOMAS ALREADY STATED FROM PLANNING COMMISSION,
10:55:42PM THE PROPOSED F.A.R. IS 2.0, AND THAT IS THROUGH THE BONUS
10:55:50PM PROVISION AGREEMENT.
10:55:55PM DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST
10:55:58PM INCONSISTENT BASED ON THE REQUESTED WAIVERS, AND DEVELOPMENT
10:56:02PM COORDINATION, THE USE IS APPROPRIATE IN THE AREA.
10:56:08PM HOWEVER, THE WAIVERS, SPECIFICALLY THE MINIMUM GREEN SPACE,
10:56:15PM IS SIGNIFICANT.
10:56:19PM LET ME SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
10:56:23PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE FACING NORTH, DIRECTLY EAST OF THE
10:56:29PM SUBJECT SITE, AT THE CORNER OF PLATT AND WEST OF THE SITE IS
10:56:37PM THE PUBLIX, AND THIS IS SOUTH, AND FURTHER NORTH THERE ARE
10:56:43PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY USES.
10:56:49PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
10:56:50PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:56:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:56:54PM THANK YOU, MS. BARNES.
10:56:55PM PETITIONER.
10:56:55PM >>TYLER HUDSON: TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
10:57:09PM I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
10:57:28PM PLEASURE TO BE HERE FOR TIM JOHNSON, THE PROPERTY OWNER AND
10:57:32PM DEVELOPER, THE FORMER CFO OF WATERS STREET, ALTHOUGH IT'S
10:57:36PM GOING TO BE A VERY DIFFERENT PROJECT THAN WATERS STREET, AND
10:57:38PM ALSO FROM THE CIVIL ENGINEERING PROSPECTIVE.
10:57:45PM THIS WILL BE AN EXCITING PROJECT BECAUSE THIS IS BASICALLY A
10:57:48PM SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING LOT, SIZEWISE.
10:57:50PM IT'S .14 AN ACRE AND THIS HAS POTENTIAL TO BE A HOME FOR 12
10:57:56PM PEOPLE, 12 HOMES ON A SITE THAT COULD EASILY ACCOMMODATE
10:58:00PM THREE MILLION-DOLLAR TOWNHOMES, THIS IS GOING TO BE
10:58:02PM A 12-UNIT -- A LOT OF TIMES YOU SEE A LOT OF HOUSING
10:58:08PM PROJECTS THAT ARE GIANT, 300, 350, 400 UNITS, OR SINGLE
10:58:13PM FAMILY LOT SPLIT IN SOUTH TAMPA AND THE ROOM IS FULL OF
10:58:17PM PEOPLE.
10:58:18PM IT'S MISSING THESE KIND OF MIDDLE SIZE PROJECTS AND KAMI AND
10:58:22PM I DIDN'T COORDINATE THIS, THE PROJECT YOU JUST APPROVED.
10:58:26PM TO BETTER ORIENT YOU, YOU SEE THE RED SUBJECT SITE, JUST
10:58:30PM WEST OF THAT IS A TAMPA TREASURE, FACING -- THIS IS JUST TO
10:58:36PM THE RIGHT OF THAT.
10:58:37PM CERTAINLY A BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
10:58:40PM SO AGAIN THE PROPOSAL IS 12 UNITS.
10:58:43PM AS YOU LOOK AT THIS WEST, IT'S UP, SO THERE'S FRONTAGE ON
10:58:47PM PLATT STREET, FOUR STORIES, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS ANNIE
10:58:53PM ALLUDED TO, 12 UNITS, 1.2 UNITS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ROUNDING
10:58:59PM THAT UP TO ONE OF THE UNITS WILL BE RESTRICTED 80% AMI RENT,
10:59:05PM THE OTHER 120% AMI RENTS.
10:59:07PM DEVELOPMENT IS TRADEOFFS, BETWEEN MY CLIENT'S PRIVATE
10:59:11PM PROPERTY RIGHTS AND ZONING WHICH WE KIND OF THINK OF AS A
10:59:15PM RIGHT HELD BY THE PUBLIC.
10:59:17PM THERE'S A TRADE-OFF.
10:59:20PM THERE'S ALSO A TRADE-OFF OF THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF
10:59:23PM THE SITE, GOING TO HAVE MORE BUFFERS, LESS PARKING.
10:59:27PM YOU MAKE YOUR BUILDING A LITTLE TALLER, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE
10:59:29PM MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO OTHER THINGS.
10:59:31PM THIS IS A TIGHT SITE.
10:59:32PM IT'S DENSE.
10:59:33PM WE THINK IT'S EXACTLY APPROPRIATE.
10:59:35PM AND SAM, HE FINDS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
10:59:40PM BUT IT DOES REQUIRE SOME WAIVERS, AND I WILL HAVE ALEX TALK
10:59:43PM ABOUT THAT NOW.
10:59:44PM >> ALEX SCHALER: 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE. THESE ARE JUST
10:59:53PM SOME RENDERINGS OF THE SITE PLAN. THE FIRST ONE IS THE
10:59:56PM CORNER OF PLATT AND MOODY.
10:59:59PM WE REALLY TRIED TO ACTIVATE THAT INTERSECTION CORNER.
11:00:01PM ALTHOUGH THE ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING IS ALONG MOODY, THERE
11:00:03PM IS STILL PEDESTRIAN ENGAGEMENT ALONG BOTH PLATT AND MOODY.
11:00:07PM THE SECOND ONE IS MORE OF THE REAR OF THE BIDDING, ALONG
11:00:10PM PLATT, TO THE BIKE STORAGE AREA AS WELL, AND THEN THE BOTTOM
11:00:13PM LOOKING DIRECTLY FROM MOODY AT THE BUILDING.
11:00:17PM AS TYLER MENTIONED, PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE
11:00:21PM APPLICATION CONSISTENT, AS WELL AS CITY OF TAMPA REVIEWING
11:00:22PM DEPARTMENT, ALSO LISTED ON THE SCREEN.
11:00:24PM WE ARE REQUESTING THREE WAIVERS WHICH HAVE BEEN ALLUDED TO
11:00:27PM ALREADY, AND I WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME GOING THROUGH EACH OF
11:00:30PM THESE.
11:00:30PM WE DID EXTENSIVE RESEARCH AND I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH
11:00:33PM YOU ALL.
11:00:33PM THE FIRST ONE IS THE PARKING REDUCTION.
11:00:35PM OUR SITE IS LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS LIGHT GREEN BUBBLE
11:00:39PM ON THE SCREEN.
11:00:39PM SO EVERYTHING IS SHOWN WITHIN THIS RADIUS IS A FIVE MINUTE
11:00:42PM WALK FROM THE SITE.
11:00:43PM AS YOU CAN SEE A MAJOR GROCER, PUBLIX, IS LOCATED TO THE
11:00:46PM SOUTH, THERE'S A FOOD AND BEVERAGE IN THE AREA THAT'S EASILY
11:00:49PM REACHABLE BY FOOT.
11:00:51PM ZOOMING OUT, THIS IS A TEN MINUTE WALKING RADIUS FROM THE
11:00:54PM SITE SO YOU CAN SEE OUR SITE IS GOING TO BE RIGHT IN THE
11:00:57PM MIDDLE, AND AGAIN THERE IS TWO MAJOR GROCERIES, PUBLIX, WINN
11:01:01PM DIXIE IN TEN MINUTES WALKING DISTANCE FROM THE SITE, FOOD
11:01:04PM AND BEVERAGES, HEALTH SERVICES, PHARMACY, BANK, ET CETERA.
11:01:08PM I DID WANT TO NOTE, WE TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE
11:01:13PM HERE AND WE ARE PROVIDING A PRIVATE AND DEDICATED AREA FOR
11:01:15PM THE BIKE STORAGE.
11:01:16PM THERE'S FOUR BIKE RACKS ACCOMMODATING MULTIPLE BIKES, AND
11:01:20PM THIS IS ACCESSIBLE FROM PLATT, SO ALONG THE PEDESTRIAN
11:01:24PM SIDEWALK THERE'S GOING TO BE A GATED ACCESS INTO THE BIKE
11:01:27PM STORAGE AREA.
11:01:28PM WE THINK THIS IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE WE THINK
11:01:30PM THIS SITE IS ACTUALLY A GREAT CANDIDATE FOR BIKING.
11:01:33PM I KNOW WE MENTIONED IT BEFORE, AND IT'S AN ALTERNATIVE FORM
11:01:36PM OF TRANSIT THAT WE THINK REALLY, REALLY WORKS, THE SPECIFIC
11:01:40PM SITE.
11:01:40PM YOU CAN SEE ALMOST EVERY SINGLE AREA IS WITHIN A 2-MINUTE OR
11:01:44PM LESS BIKE RIDE FROM THE SITE SO CENTRALLY LOCATED, EASILY
11:01:48PM REACHABLE TO MANY DIFFERENT SERVICES.
11:01:51PM AND THERE'S ALSO A BUFFERED BIKE LANE, ALONG PLATT STREET
11:01:55PM RIGHT ALONG THE SITE'S FRONTAGE, AND I THINK THAT'S
11:01:57PM IMPORTANT BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE WE PROVIDING STORAGE FOR THE
11:02:00PM BIKES, AND ENCOURAGING THAT ON OUR SITE, BUT IT'S ALSO
11:02:03PM ESTABLISHED IN THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL.
11:02:06PM ALSO TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR IN THIS SECTION OF PLATT, SO
11:02:09PM I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT ADDITIONALLY.
11:02:11PM FINALLY FOR FURTHER JUSTIFICATION FOR THE PARKING WAIVER, WE
11:02:14PM ARE ACTUALLY ADDING A .9 SPACE, THE ACTUAL RATIO THAT WE ARE
11:02:18PM PROVIDING FOR THIS REDUCTION, AND IT WOULD ONLY BE REQUIRED
11:02:22PM TO HAVE NINE SPACES, CBD NINE SPACES AS WELL, BUT HERE
11:02:27PM REQUIRE 21.
11:02:31PM THIS WILL BE FOOT AND BIKE TO MANY DIFFERENT SERVICES
11:02:34PM SIMILAR TO WHAT IT WOULD BE IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, THE
11:02:36PM CBD.
11:02:37PM THE SECOND WAIVER, THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE, AND
11:02:40PM DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE SIZE OF THE SITE AND A CIRCULATION
11:02:43PM WITHIN THE PARKING GARAGE.
11:02:44PM WE ARE REDUCING THE BACKUP WIDTH WHICH IS SHOWN IN THE
11:02:46PM YELLOW AREA THERE FROM 6 FEET TO 5.5 FEET, SO THIS WORKS
11:02:52PM WITH THE SPECIFIC GARAGE DESIGN.
11:02:54PM AGAIN, THIS IS A LITTLE MORE TECHNICAL.
11:02:57PM WE HAVE CIVIL ENGINEER HERE FOR SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT THIS
11:03:01PM IS JUST A HALF-FOOT REDUCTION, PROVIDED FOR VEHICULAR BACKUP
11:03:02PM INTERNAL TO THE PARKING GARAGE.
11:03:04PM THE FINAL REQUEST IS A GREEN SPACE WAIVER.
11:03:07PM AND ANNIE MENTIONED THIS AND TYLER MENTIONED IT EARLIER.
11:03:12PM THIS IS A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF THE WAY THE CODE IS
11:03:15PM APPLIED.
11:03:16PM SO IN TERMS OF CALCULATING GREEN SPACE, IF YOU ARE A
11:03:19PM MULTIFAMILY BUILDING OF SIX FLOORS OR ABOVE, YOU ARE ABLE TO
11:03:23PM USE A PERCENTAGE CALCULATION OF THE REMAINING LAND AREA
11:03:24PM AFTER YOUR BUILDING FOOTPRINT.
11:03:25PM IF YOU ARE LESS THAN SIX STORIES, SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT AS
11:03:28PM THIS ONE, FOUR STORIES, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A SQUARE
11:03:31PM FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT.
11:03:32PM WE HAVE A GARAGE OF 750 SQUARE FEET PER UNIT.
11:03:36PM WE HAVE 12 UNITS PROPOSED, SO MULTIPLY THAT BY 750 AND WE
11:03:39PM ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE 9,000 FEET OF GREEN SPACE.
11:03:43PM AS MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING, THE SITE IS A LITTLE OVER
11:03:45PM 6,000 SQUARE FEET AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN.
11:03:47PM THIS IS A REALLY GREAT EXAMPLE HOW SOMETIMES A DIRECT
11:03:50PM APPLICATION OF THE CITY'S CODE ISN'T FEASIBLE, AND THAT'S
11:03:53PM EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE RUN INTO HERE.
11:03:55PM SO CANNOT PROVIDE 9,000 SQUARE FEET OF GREEN SPACE ON A
11:03:58PM 6,000 SQUARE FOOT SITE.
11:04:00PM CAN WE REDUCE THE DENSITY?
11:04:02PM YES, HOWEVER IF WE WERE TO KNOCK THIS DOWN FROM 12 UNITS TO
11:04:06PM 4 UNITS WE COULD PROVIDE THE GREEN SPACE REQUIRED WHICH IS
11:04:07PM 50% OF THE SITE.
11:04:09PM HOWEVER, GIVEN THE SITE'S LOCATION, THIS IS CMU-35 SO THIS
11:04:13PM IS A RELATIVELY DENSE LAND USE CATEGORY AND WE ARE BONUSING
11:04:16PM UP TO A 2.0 F.A.R. SO WE FEEL LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
11:04:20PM DEFINITELY SUPPORTS THIS LEVEL OF DENSITY AND IT WOULD BE
11:04:22PM UNDERSERVING TO PROVIDE ONLY FOUR UNITS JUST TO ACCOMMODATE
11:04:26PM SOME GREEN SPACE.
11:04:28PM LASTLY, AS TYLER MENTIONED, WE ARE DOING AN AFFORDABLE
11:04:31PM HOUSING COMPONENT TO GET OUR BONUS DENSITY FOR THIS PROJECT.
11:04:34PM WE THINK THIS IS REALLY PREFERENTIAL, IN THE FACT THAT IT'S
11:04:38PM ONLY TWO UNITS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED BECAUSE THE
11:04:39PM DEVELOPMENT IS REALLY SMALL, BUT WE THINK THIS IS A REALLY
11:04:41PM GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW DEVELOPERS CAN PROVIDE AFFORDABLE
11:04:44PM HOUSING ON THESE SMALLER INFIELD DEALS.
11:04:47PM WE SEE A LOT, AS TYLER MENTIONED, 300 UNITS, GAS WORX
11:04:50PM DEVELOPMENTS, PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT WE THINK
11:04:53PM EVERY SINGLE CONTRIBUTION MATTERS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE
11:04:56PM MORE SMALLER DEALS AND WE THINK THIS IS PUTTING A REALLY
11:04:59PM GOOD EXAMPLE FOR THAT.
11:05:00PM AND WITH THAT I WILL CONCLUDE OUR PRESENTATION AND AVAILABLE
11:05:03PM FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:05:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:05:09PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:05:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST A COMMENT.
11:05:18PM I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE REALLY LOOKING IN THE MIDDLE,
11:05:22PM AND INCLUDING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAN YOU WOULD EVEN
11:05:27PM NEED TO.
11:05:28PM I AM NOT AS CONCERNED WITH THE GREEN SPACE WAIVER.
11:05:35PM BUT 11 SPACES AND 12 UNITS.
11:05:38PM SO IT'S JUST LIKE A LOTTERY?
11:05:43PM I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION.
11:05:46PM >>TYLER HUDSON: IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
11:05:48PM GIVEN THE LOCATION OF THE SITE, BUT THIS IS NEAR THE SITE OF
11:05:52PM OUR DISTRICT, INTERESTED IN THE SITE.
11:05:58PM WE THINK THIS NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES IS EXACTLY
11:06:00PM APPROPRIATE, BUT DURING THE WEEK THE PARKING SPACE FOR THE
11:06:04PM RELEASE OF THE UNIT.
11:06:04PM SO THE FIRST 11 UNITS, IF THOSE FOLKS BRING THEIR CARS TOO,
11:06:08PM THE 12TH UNIT, THAT PERSON IS OUT OF LUCK AND THEY WILL NOT
11:06:12PM HAVE A PARKING SPACE AVAILABLE, AND AS YOU HEARD EARLIER
11:06:16PM FROM THE FOLKS WHO WERE COMMENTING ON IT, I THINK IT WAS
11:06:21PM ITEM 3, THERE ARE FOLKS WHO DON'T HAVE CARS.
11:06:26PM BUT THE RENTER DEMOGRAPHIC FOR A SITE LIKE THIS, IN THE
11:06:29PM DISTRICT, PROXIMATE TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, THE CITY
11:06:33PM INVESTED A TON OF MONEY AND TURNED PLATT INTO A PRETTY
11:06:36PM LEGITIMATE BIKE ARTERY.
11:06:38PM THAT'S IN THE FRONT DOOR OF THE SITE.
11:06:40PM SO WE THINK THAT PARKING IS ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE.
11:06:45PM HE'S THE EXPERT AND DEVELOPER, AND TALKING ABOUT HIS MARKET
11:06:45PM RESEARCH HE'S DONE. WE BELIEVE THAT .9 PER UNIT FOR THIS
11:06:50PM AREA IS COMPLETELY REASONABLE.
11:06:51PM AND IF HE'S WRONG --
11:06:56PM >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:06:57PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THOSE TWO ATTAINABLE HOUSING UNITS, I
11:07:00PM WOULDN'T SAY AFFORDABLE.
11:07:02PM I SAY ATTAINABLE.
11:07:03PM ARE THEY THE SAME SIZE AS ALL THE UNITS WILL BE?
11:07:08PM >>TYLER HUDSON: ALL THE UNITS --
11:07:11PM >> I HAVEN'T BEEN SWORN IN.
11:07:13PM SORRY.
11:07:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
11:07:23PM DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
11:07:35PM DO YOU SWEAR --
11:07:36PM >> I SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
11:07:40PM SWEAR OR AFFIRM.
11:07:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:07:42PM >> ON THE SITE OF THE AFFORDABLE UNITS, WE HAVE NOT DONE THE
11:07:45PM FINAL INTERIOR FLOOR PLAN YET.
11:07:48PM WE ARE HERE TO GET THE REZONING APPROVED.
11:07:52PM WE DO THINK THAT THEY COULD BE INTEGRATED INTO THE SITE.
11:07:56PM WE HAVE FOUR POTENTIAL DIFFERENT FLOOR PLANS.
11:07:59PM AND DEPENDING ON WHEN WE GET APPROVED THAT WILL DICTATE
11:08:03PM WHERE THEY ARE.
11:08:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND I'M GLAD THAT COUNCIL IS ASKING ABOUT
11:08:12PM UTILIZING DOLLARS FOR ATTAINABLE HOUSES.
11:08:15PM WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE IS THAT WE START THROWING UNITS IN
11:08:19PM THERE AND IT'S THESE SMALL UNITS, AND VERSUS LAKE EVERYBODY
11:08:23PM ELSE.
11:08:23PM I WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS OF THAT.
11:08:25PM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GOING TO PLAY, LET'S PLAY THE
11:08:28PM GAME RIGHT.
11:08:29PM >> IT IS A LIMITED TIGHT SITE AS TYLER SAID SO THERE'S ONLY
11:08:35PM SO MUCH SPACE WE HAVE.
11:08:36PM ALL THE UNITS ARE GOING TO BE FAIRLY SIMILAR IN SIZE.
11:08:39PM THEY ARE NOT MICRO UNITS.
11:08:42PM THEY WON'T BE MICRO UNITS.
11:08:43PM I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
11:08:44PM THEY WOULD BE A REGULAR SIZE APARTMENT UNIT THAT'S GOING TO
11:08:47PM BE COMPARABLE WITH OTHER UNITS IN THE BUILDING.
11:08:49PM AND THERE WILL BE MARKET RATE UNITS ABOUT THE SAME SIZE.
11:08:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
11:08:58PM MY QUESTION IS DIFFERENT.
11:08:59PM PARKING. THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS MODEL.
11:09:04PM IF YOU WANT SOMEBODY TO RENT FROM YOU THAT DOESN'T WANT TO
11:09:07PM PARK, THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS MODEL.
11:09:09PM MY CONCERN IS GREEN SPACE.
11:09:13PM WE HAVE HAD 20% AFFORDABLE HOUSING. HAD WE HAD A 10-FOOT
11:09:17PM WIDE SIDEWALKS FROM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN EARLIER, I WOULD HAVE
11:09:20PM BEEN A LITTLE MORE HAPPY ABOUT IT.
11:09:22PM BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT'S JUST PUTTING SO MUCH ON THIS
11:09:26PM LOT AND NOT GIVING ANYTHING TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS, GREEN
11:09:31PM SPACE, WIDER SIDEWALKS.
11:09:33PM BECAUSE THERE IS NO OFF-STREET PARKING HERE.
11:09:37PM SO THAT'S OUT THE WINDOW.
11:09:39PM AGAIN, YOUR BUSINESS MODEL DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING
11:09:42PM SPACES.
11:09:43PM THAT'S UP TO YOU.
11:09:44PM >> IT'S A TRADE-OFF, AND I DON'T WANT TO KEEP REPEATING
11:09:49PM THAT.
11:09:50PM BUT IF YOU GO WALK DOWN SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, IN
11:09:52PM CHICAGO, WASHINGTON, BOSTON, CITIES THAT DEVELOPED
11:09:56PM PREZONING, WHICH HAPPENED A LOT, THE GREEN SPACE IS
11:10:01PM INTEGRATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY ITSELF.
11:10:03PM IT'S NOT EVERY SINGLE LOT HAS TO HAVE THE PEOPLE AND THE
11:10:06PM GREEN SPACE.
11:10:07PM YOU'RE BUILDING IN A LARGER NEIGHBORHOOD, A LARGER
11:10:10PM COMMUNITY, AND WE THINK IT IS BETTER FOR THE CITY TO HAVE
11:10:13PM MORE UNITS.
11:10:14PM WE HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE.
11:10:19PM THERE'S A LACK OF SUPPLY IS A MAJOR PROBLEM, TO ADD 12 UNITS
11:10:22PM HERE, WHICH ARE GOING TO BE UNRESTRICTED.
11:10:26PM THIS IS NOT A PERFECT DEVELOPMENT.
11:10:28PM I HAVE YET TO BRING ONE TO YOU.
11:10:30PM BUT WE THINK THIS STRIKES THE RIGHT BALANCE GIVEN ITS
11:10:32PM LOCATION.
11:10:33PM 12 UNITS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE.
11:10:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF.
11:10:41PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE -- I'M SORRY.
11:10:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE A CAR.
11:10:56PM >>TYLER HUDSON: WE ARE PROVIDING .9 SPACES PER UNIT, AND
11:11:00PM THIS COUNCIL VERY RECENTLY SAID THAT .75 WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR
11:11:04PM THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AND CBD.
11:11:06PM I WOULD SAY WHILE THIS AREA IS NOT THE CHANNEL DISTRICT OR
11:11:08PM THE CBD, IT'S GOT SOME PRETTY GOOD DENSITY, LITERALLY ACROSS
11:11:12PM THE STREET FROM THE PUBLIX, AND FOR FOLKS THAT DON'T HAVE A
11:11:16PM CAR.
11:11:16PM WE DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE A PARKING PROBLEM HERE.
11:11:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY LOGIC WITH THAT IS HOPEFULLY THE
11:11:22PM STREETCAR WILL BE EXTENDED WHICH WOULD MAKE PUBLIC
11:11:24PM TRANSPORTATION MORE VIABLE IN THAT AREA.
11:11:30PM THAT'S A DIFFERENT SUBJECT.
11:11:31PM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?
11:11:34PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
11:11:36PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:11:38PM >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
11:11:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SULING.
11:11:42PM DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:11:44PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:11:45PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:11:46PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:11:48PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:11:48PM MR. CARLSON.
11:11:54PM I'M SORRY, MR. CARLSON, YOU READ THE LAST ONE, DIDN'T YOU?
11:11:57PM I'M SORRY.
11:11:58PM GO AHEAD.
11:11:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:12:00PM I HAVE AN ORDINANCE -- THERE'S A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION HERE.
11:12:06PM I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
11:12:08PM CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
11:12:11PM VICINITY OF 2401 WEST PLATT STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:12:14PM FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
11:12:16PM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
11:12:19PM TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY,
11:12:23PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:12:26PM I SEE COMPLIANCE HERE WITH THE APPLICABLE GOALS, OBJECTIVES
11:12:29PM AND POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
11:12:32PM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE
11:12:34PM POLICIES 9.6.1 AND 9.8.4 AND HOUSING POLICY 1.3.1, 1.3.3 AND
11:12:43PM 1.3.4 TO ENCOURAGE NEW HOUSING ON VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED
11:12:48PM LAND TO ENSURE THAT AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IS
11:12:51PM AVAILABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S PRESENT AND FUTURE
11:12:54PM POPULATIONS, COMPLIANT WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION
11:12:57PM 27-136, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN
11:13:00PM PROMOTES AND ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN
11:13:03PM LOCATION, CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING
11:13:06PM NEIGHBORHOOD, AND ALSO THE WAIVERS, IN COMPLIANCE WITH
11:13:09PM SECTION 27-139.4, THE DESIRE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS
11:13:13PM UNIQUE AND THEREFORE IN NEED OF WAIVERS, THE REQUESTED
11:13:16PM WAIVERS WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE WITH OR INJURY THE
11:13:19PM RIGHTS OF OTHERS WHOSE PROPERTY WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE
11:13:22PM WAIVERS.
11:13:23PM THAT'S MY MOTION.
11:13:24PM AND THERE'S A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION TO FOLLOW THAT AT SECOND
11:13:29PM READING.
11:13:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:13:34PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:13:38PM I REALLY WANT TO SUPPORT THIS, BUT -- ALL RIGHT, ROLL CALL
11:13:43PM VOTE.
11:13:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:13:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:13:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:13:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:13:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:13:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:13:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:14:02PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:14:05PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JANUARY 19, 2023
11:14:11PM AT 9:30 A.M.
11:14:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:14:15PM INFORMATION REPORTS.
11:14:16PM LET'S GO WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:14:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MAKE A MOTION TO WELCOME A
11:14:25PM REPRESENTATIVE FROM ZOO TAMPA LOWRY PARK, THEIR MASTER PLAN,
11:14:27PM FOR A CONTINUANCE AS THE ZOO IS READY TO PRESENT AT THIS
11:14:32PM TIME.
11:14:34PM OUR DEPUTY CLERK, CITY CLERK, ADVISED ME TO SCHEDULE THE
11:14:39PM FINE PEOPLE FROM ZOO TAMPA AT LOWRY PARK ON THURSDAY,
11:14:42PM JANUARY 19, 2023.
11:14:44PM WE WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO BE SCHEDULED IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING
11:14:47PM ANY CEREMONIALS IF POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THEY ARE BRINGING A
11:14:50PM VERY SPECIAL GUEST TO VISIT COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:14:53PM I THINK IT'S A HUNGRY LION.
11:14:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HOPE IT IS.
11:14:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD BE REMISS NOT TO MENTION THAT
11:15:02PM ZOO TAMPA LOWRY PARK IS FLORIDA'S MOST CULTURAL INSTITUTION
11:15:07PM AND LEADING IN WILDLIFE CONSERVATION, AND JUST FOR THE
11:15:09PM RECORD, THEY HAVE BROKEN THE PREVIOUS RECORD FROM 2021,
11:15:13PM WHICH HAD ATTENDANCE OF 1,105,049 GUESTS, AND THIS YEAR THEY
11:15:20PM BROKE THE RECORD WITH 1,152,846 GUESTS.
11:15:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:15:27PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:15:29PM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:15:31PM ANY OPPOSED?
11:15:32PM THANK YOU.
11:15:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NUMBER TWO, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
11:15:34PM COMMENDATION FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS 60 YEARS IN SERVICE IN
11:15:39PM TAMPA.
11:15:40PM I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANY MORE.
11:15:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED
11:15:45PM BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:15:47PM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:15:52PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:15:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, CHAIRMAN.
11:15:53PM SOME MIGHT KNOW THAT DR. BRUCE MILES PASSED AWAY THIS WEEK,
11:16:02PM LONG SERVING DENTIST IN OUR COMMUNITY, ALSO WAS THE
11:16:06PM PRESIDENT OF THE BLACK CAUCUS OF THE STATE IN HILLSBOROUGH
11:16:08PM COUNTY.
11:16:10PM HIS SERVICE WILL BE HELD NEXT WEEK ON THE 21st.
11:16:12PM I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A COMMENDATION AT THE SERVICE.
11:16:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY, VERY NICE MAN.
11:16:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:16:20PM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:16:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECONDLY, COMMENDATION GIVEN TO THE RUCY
11:16:24PM YOUTH, INC, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION ON JANUARY 10th, MADE
11:16:32PM A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THEIR COMMUNITIES IN THE TAMPA BAY
11:16:34PM AREA.
11:16:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:16:38PM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:16:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALSO THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT CREATE A
11:16:42PM RESOLUTION TO ALLOW CITY OF TAMPA CITY SEAL FOR THE --
11:16:52PM COMMITTEE PROGRAM CELEBRATION.
11:16:53PM >> SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:16:55PM ALL THIS FAVOR?
11:16:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND I HAVE ONE MORE HERE.
11:16:59PM AS YOU KNOW, WE WERE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY,
11:17:05PM PEOPLE GATHERING AND GAMBLING AND HOMELESSNESS ON THESE
11:17:09PM RIGHTS-OF-WAY.
11:17:10PM A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS.
11:17:12PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO RESEARCH PUBLIC
11:17:15PM SIDEWALKS, RIGHTS-OF-WAY, AND UNAUTHORIZED GATHERING OF
11:17:20PM THESE CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES SUCH AS GAMBLING.
11:17:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:17:26PM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:17:30PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:17:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOTHING.
11:17:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:17:34PM I WOULD LIKE TO -- I KNOW WE HAVE A BUSY JANUARY 10th
11:17:39PM PRESENTATION SESSION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE D.C.
11:17:43PM GOUTOUFAS TO DO A SHORT FIVE-MINUTE PRESENTATION REGARDING A
11:17:48PM POSSIBLE STREET RENAMING FOR A MR. JIM URBANSKI.
11:17:56PM IF YOU KNOW THE NAME THEN YOU KNOW WHY HE'S IMPORTANT TO
11:17:58PM TAMPA.
11:17:59PM I WOULD LIKE FOR MR. GOUTOUFAS TO COME AND PRESENT ON
11:18:02PM JANUARY 10th AT 9:00 A.M.
11:18:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SECOND.
11:18:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APOLLO.
11:18:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW LONG A PRESENTATION?
11:18:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIVE MINUTES.
11:18:16PM AND I WILL COMMUNICATE WITH HIM SO HE KNOWS TO BE HERE.
11:18:19PM >> SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:18:21PM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:18:24PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:18:25PM OH, I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER?
11:18:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A HAPPY HANUKKAH TO THOSE CELEBRATING.
11:18:32PM HANUKKAH BEGINS THIS WEEKEND. AND OF COURSE MERRY CHRISTMAS
11:18:34PM AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
11:18:35PM THAT'S IT.
11:18:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, SUNDAY NIGHT WE HAVE HANUKKAH.
11:18:42PM MENORAH LIGHTING.
11:18:44PM MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE KNOWN CONNARD WHO WORKED IN MY OFFICE
11:18:47PM FOR A COUPLE YEARS, SUCH A NICE GUY, FOR A COUPLE YEARS. HE
11:18:48PM TOOK A FULL-TIME JOB AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND I WANT TO
11:18:51PM GIVE HIM A CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION AT OUR FEBRUARY 7TH
11:18:56PM COMMENDATION MEETING.
11:19:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:19:08PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:19:10PM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:19:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: THEN A REALLY FAST MOTION FOR COMMENDATION
11:19:14PM OFF-PREMISES, THE BARBERS LAW FOR 40 YEARS.
11:19:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:19:21PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:19:22PM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:19:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: COMMENDATION OFF PREMISES, CHANTAL,
11:19:30PM C-H-A-N-T-A-L, LAST NAME HEVIA H-E-V-I-A FOR HER WORK WITH
11:19:34PM THE YBOR MUSEUM.
11:19:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:19:38PM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:19:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THEN LASTLY, RISE UP FOR PEACE, I HAD
11:19:43PM MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THEM DURING THE MEETING TODAY, AND
11:19:46PM I GOT A CALL FROM THE CHIEF OF STAFF INDICATING THAT THEY
11:19:50PM WOULD POTENTIALLY BE AMENABLE POTENTIALLY FOR -- GOSH, I'M
11:19:57PM TIRED, I'M SORRY -- FOR THE SOCIAL ACTION PLAN.
11:19:59PM I WANT TO DO A MOTION JUST TO REQUEST, WE DON'T NEED IT TO
11:20:02PM COME BACK, JUST TO FORMALLY REQUEST TO DO A MEMO TO
11:20:05PM ADMINISTRATION, TO GIVE THEM SOME FUNDS.
11:20:07PM AND THAT'S IT.
11:20:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:20:11PM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:20:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR OFFICE?
11:20:22PM [OVERLAPPING CONVERSATION]
11:20:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THAT'S IT.
11:20:23PM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:20:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO QUICK ONES RELATED TO ISSUES WE
11:20:27PM DISCUSSED TODAY.
11:20:29PM WE TALKED ABOUT THE LACK OF FUNDING FOR PARKS.
11:20:34PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO REPORT ON
11:20:36PM FEBRUARY 2nd AS TO POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVE FUNDING
11:20:41PM SOURCES/GRANTS AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASING NEW PARK LAND.
11:20:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:20:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED
11:20:50PM BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:20:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:20:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: THEN THE SECOND ONE IS THE PEOPLE FROM
11:20:57PM HARBOUR ISLAND WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC GETTING ON AND
11:21:00PM OFF THE ISLAND.
11:21:01PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FIND IS THAT DURING EVENTS, WHICH
11:21:04PM IS MORE OFTEN, THEY SHUT DOWN ALL THE ROADS.
11:21:06PM AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS A FEW TIMES BUT I DON'T THINK I MADE
11:21:09PM A MOTION AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
11:21:11PM I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO REPORT ON FEBRUARY 2nd AS
11:21:14PM TO WHETHER IT IS NECESSARY -- I AM GOING TO SAY STILL
11:21:19PM NECESSARY, TO SHUT DOWN -- TO SHUT DOWNTOWN ROADS DURING
11:21:26PM DOWNTOWN EVENTS, AND IF THERE IS A BETTER WAY TO MANAGE
11:21:29PM TRAFFIC FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.
11:21:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:21:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:21:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:21:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S IT.
11:21:40PM THANK YOU.
11:21:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
11:21:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, SIR?
11:21:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, I DO.
11:21:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, AFTER YOU, UNLESS YOU WANT --
11:21:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL MEMBERS, I HAVE HAD VARIOUS REPORTS
11:21:55PM FROM ALL OVER THE CITY OF BICYCLISTS THAT ARE RIDING,
11:22:05PM CAUSING DANGER TO THEMSELVES AND DANGER TO OTHERS, NOT
11:22:11PM OBEYING THE RULES OF THE ROAD, AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A
11:22:19PM STAFF REPORT, LEGAL AND TPD, AND I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE
11:22:24PM OUT WHEN WE CAN GET THAT IN.
11:22:27PM DO WE HAVE A DATE, MADAM CLERK, THAT WE CAN GET THAT IN
11:22:31PM STAFF WHEN WE ARE NOT OVERLOADED? HOPEFULLY SOMETIME IN
11:22:34PM JANUARY, THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY?
11:22:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 2nd IS FAIRLY LIGHT.
11:22:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT IS NOW.
11:22:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FEBRUARY 2nd.
11:22:45PM A STAFF REPORT FROM LEGAL AND TPD, SEEING WHAT CAN BE DONE.
11:22:50PM AGAIN, I AM GETTING CALLS FROM RESIDENTS FROM ALL AROUND THE
11:22:55PM CITY THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT BICYCLISTS, THEY ARE RIDING
11:22:59PM IMPROPERLY IN OUR ROADS, DOING WHEELIES, AGAIN BEING A
11:23:06PM DANGER NOT ONLY TO THEMSELVES BUT TO MOTORISTS.
11:23:10PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:23:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL SECOND THAT.
11:23:14PM NOBODY SECONDED IT.
11:23:15PM BUT, YES, I HAVE GOT A BUNCH OF CALLS, TOO, AND THERE'S A
11:23:19PM LOT OF DISCUSSION ON NEXT DOOR, FOR ANYONE WATCHING, IT'S
11:23:23PM NOT JUST BICYCLISTS DRIVING HAPHAZARDLY.
11:23:28PM THERE ARE APPARENTLY GANGS, LOTS OF BICYCLISTS THAT SURROUND
11:23:30PM CARS AND INTIMIDATE --
11:23:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THAT THE WAY.
11:23:33PM I JUST WANTED TO SAY BICYCLISTS.
11:23:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:23:36PM SO IT'S A PARTICULAR KIND OF THING THAT'S HAPPENING.
11:23:38PM WE HAVE REPORTED SEVERAL ISSUES TO TPD, AND THEY ARE
11:23:41PM SUPPOSEDLY LOOKING INTO IT.
11:23:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO -- IF I MAY, AND I
11:23:46PM DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYBODY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE SPANDEX
11:23:50PM CROWD WHICH ALSO RIDES THEIR BICYCLES IN GROUPS THAT ARE
11:23:55PM STAYING WITHIN THE BIKE LANES AND WHATNOT.
11:23:57PM SO I WANT TO FIND OUT ABOUT BICYCLISTS NOT FOLLOWING THE
11:24:04PM RULES OF THE ROAD POSING A DANGER TO THEMSELVES AND
11:24:06PM MOTORISTS AND PEDESTRIANS.
11:24:09PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:24:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MEAN, I HAVE TO SAY WE ACTUALLY HAVE QUITE
11:24:13PM A FEW BIKE CLUBS THAT BIKE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND CYCLISTS
11:24:17PM ARE ALLOWED TO USE THE ROAD, IN GROUPS.
11:24:19PM SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT -- I JUST HAVE
11:24:22PM TO SAY THAT, BECAUSE AS A BICYCLIST WHO JOINS THOSE GROUPS,
11:24:27PM WE ARE RIDING LEGALLY.
11:24:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DID NOT SAY YOU WERE DOING IT ILLEGAL.
11:24:33PM I SAID POSING A HAZARD.
11:24:35PM THERE ARE SOME -- BUT THAT'S WHY WE WILL HAVE THIS
11:24:39PM DISCUSSION.
11:24:40PM AS A PERSON WHO HAS GONE ON MANY BIKE RIDES RECENTLY.
11:24:45PM OKAY.
11:24:45PM WE HAVE A MOTION -- I'M SORRY.
11:24:49PM I MADE THE MOTION.
11:24:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN CITRO,
11:24:55PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:24:57PM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:25:00PM ANY OPPOSED?
11:25:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M GOOD.
11:25:04PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:25:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
11:25:08PM COUNCIL, THANK YOU.
11:25:10PM CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
11:25:11PM I WILL MAKE THIS VERY QUICK.
11:25:12PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS AN OUTSTANDING MEMORY AS WE ALL KNOW
11:25:15PM WITH REGARD TO THE ISSUE OF CONTINUANCE OR MISNOTICE OR
11:25:20PM FAILING TO APPEAR.
11:25:22PM IT ACTUALLY DOES APPEAR IN THE CODE.
11:25:24PM IT APPEARS IN SECTION 27-61 IN TWO PLACES.
11:25:28PM IT WOULD BE 27-61-K-2-B, WHICH IS A REVIEWABLE HEARING AND
11:25:35PM 27-61-J-3-B WHICH IS REVIEW OF AR PERMITS.
11:25:40PM I TRACED THAT BACK TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 2018-3.
11:25:44PM SO IT DATES BACK TO JANUARY OF 2018 WHEN IT WAS FIRST PUT
11:25:47PM INTO THE CODE, BUT ONLY IN THOSE SECTIONS.
11:25:49PM SO WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU IS I WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU
11:25:52PM WITH A RECOMMENDATION AT THE NEXT MEETING IN JANUARY, I
11:25:55PM WOULD SUSPECT, HOW WE CAN RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, IN LIGHT OF
11:25:58PM THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE CODE, EXPANDING IT TO OTHER
11:26:01PM SECTIONS, AND/OR PUTTING IT IN THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.
11:26:05PM BUT I WILL ADDRESS THAT.
11:26:07PM AND I SAID I WOULD FOLLOW UP LAST WEEK.
11:26:09PM SO I DID A DEEP DIVE AND HERE WE ARE.
11:26:12PM HAVE A HAPPY HOLIDAY, COUNCIL, AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
11:26:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:26:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY
11:26:21PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:26:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:26:33PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
11:26:34PM HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
11:26:35PM [SOUNDING GAVEL]
11:26:39PM
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