TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2022
5:01 P.M.
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05:05:52PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
05:06:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I TAKE IT WE ARE THERE.
05:06:04PM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS NOW IN SESSION.
05:06:06PM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
05:06:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:06:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
05:06:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:06:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
05:06:20PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A QUORUM, PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:06:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:06:27PM MR. SHELBY.
05:06:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:06:30PM GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.
05:06:32PM TONIGHT IS THE 8th OF DECEMBER AND THE PUBLIC AND THE
05:06:35PM CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ABLE TO WATCH TONIGHT'S
05:06:38PM MEETING ON SPECTRUM 640, FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 AND ON THE
05:06:42PM INTERNET AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
05:06:45PM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE TAMPA CITY
05:06:49PM COUNCIL MEETINGS BY EITHER ATTENDING IN PERSON HERE 315 E.
05:06:54PM KENNEDY BOULEVARD OR VIRTUALLY THROUGH VIDEO
05:06:56PM TELECONFERENCING.
05:06:57PM PREREGISTRATION IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO DO THAT AND YOU NEED
05:07:01PM THE APPROPRIATE DEVICE EQUIPPED WITH A CAMERA AND
05:07:04PM MICROPHONE.
05:07:04PM THOSE INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE AT TAMPA.GOV/QUASI.
05:07:09PM AND THAT IS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AS
05:07:13PM WELL.
05:07:13PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO
05:07:16PM WAIVE THE RULES TO ALLOW THE CONTINUED USE OF CMT.
05:07:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
05:07:22PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
05:07:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
05:07:24PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:07:26PM THANK YOU.
05:07:26PM MR. HUSSEIN.
05:07:29PM SHALL WE GO THROUGH THE AGENDA, PLEASE?
05:07:34PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: YES, SIR, ZAIN HUSSEIN.
05:07:37PM LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:07:38PM I WOULD LIKE TO CLEAR THE AGENDA.
05:07:39PM FIRST WE HAVE TWO CASES THAT ARE RELATE THAT ARE REQUESTING
05:07:42PM CONTINUANCE.
05:07:43PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
05:07:45PM FILE NO. REZ-21-07 AND ALSO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6.
05:07:53PM THEY ARE RELATED.
05:07:54PM AND REQUESTING CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 9, 2023.
05:07:58PM STAFF IS READY TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS APPLICATION TODAY AND
05:08:01PM HAVE IT HEARD, BUT IT IS UP TO YOUR VOTE.
05:08:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT -- THE PETITIONER
05:08:09PM IS HERE.
05:08:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE IS WHAT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO DO
05:08:12PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
05:08:15PM A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:08:18PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:08:19PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:08:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE, NOT THROUGH FOUR.
05:08:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:08:27PM WILL THE PETITIONER LIKE TO COME FORWARD?
05:08:32PM THESE ARE FOR -- COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:08:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THESE BEEN CONTINUED?
05:08:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE PETITIONER.
05:08:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THEY BEEN CONTINUED?
05:08:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE PETITIONER FIRST.
05:08:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 5-17.
05:08:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
05:08:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:08:56PM PETITIONER, PLEASE.
05:08:59PM >> DO I NEED TO BE SWORN IN?
05:09:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THIS QUASI-JUDICIAL?
05:09:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS AS TO THE CONTINUANCE.
05:09:11PM LET'S GET THIS OVER WITH NOW.
05:09:14PM ANYBODY WHO WILL GIVE ANY TYPE OF TESTIMONY TONIGHT.
05:09:21PM I WILL SAY IT ONE MORE TIME.
05:09:23PM ANYBODY WHO WILL GIVING ANY TYPE OF TESTIMONY TONIGHT PLEASE
05:09:26PM STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN.
05:09:29PM [SWEARING IN]
05:09:41PM >> I DO!
05:09:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, PETITIONER.
05:09:44PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:09:46PM STEVE MICHELINI.
05:09:47PM I AM REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT ON ITEMS NUMBER FIVE AND
05:09:51PM SIX.
05:09:51PM AND WE ARE ASKING A CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY.
05:09:56PM AND THIS DATE WAS GIVEN TO US BY THE STAFF AS A POSSIBLE
05:10:01PM CONTINUANCE DATE.
05:10:02PM NEITHER MY CIVIL ENGINEER NOR MY TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER ARE
05:10:06PM AVAILABLE THIS EVENING.
05:10:07PM THEY ARE NOT IN ATTENDANCE.
05:10:09PM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON PARKING MATRIX AND WHAT IS REQUIRED
05:10:14PM FOR THE PARKING FOR A RELATIVELY SMALL ADDITION TO AN
05:10:19PM EXISTING RESTAURANT, AND WE NEED THE TIME TO -- TO COMPLETE
05:10:24PM THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
05:10:26PM AND THAT IS THE EARLIEST DATE THAT THEY HAD AVAILABLE.
05:10:29PM TO ANSWER MR. -- COUNCILMAN GUDES' QUESTION, IT WAS
05:10:34PM CONTINUED ONCE BEFORE.
05:10:35PM I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
05:10:38PM WE REVISED SITE PLANS.
05:10:40PM THE CITY ASKED US TO -- THAT THEY WOULD NOT ACCEPT THEM THE
05:10:44PM WAY -- IN THE FORMAT THEY WERE IN.
05:10:46PM SO BASICALLY WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE SO WE
05:10:51PM CAN FINISH THAT UP, MAKE THE PROPER REVISIONS TO THOSE
05:10:55PM PLANS, AND THAT WILL BE THE LAST TIME WE WILL ASK FOR A
05:10:59PM CONTINUANCE.
05:10:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
05:11:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN JUST --
05:11:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL COME TO YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:11:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST FOR COUNCIL'S EDIFICATION AND
05:11:10PM CLARIFICATION WITH REGARD TO CONTINUANCES OR WHEN THEY WERE
05:11:14PM PREVIOUSLY SET.
05:11:14PM IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE ITEM NUMBERS THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT,
05:11:18PM THIS ONE, FOR INSTANCE, IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING AND
05:11:21PM STATES THE DATE.
05:11:21PM IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER FIVE AND SIX, IT WILL TELL YOU THE
05:11:24PM DATES THEY WERE FIRST PUT ON THE AGENDA AND CONTINUED TO.
05:11:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:11:29PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:11:33PM THAT IS WHY I WANTED TO HEAR FROM STAFF.
05:11:35PM ZAIN, TELL US WHO YOU MANY TIMES THESE HAVE BEEN CONTINUED
05:11:40PM FOR THE RECORD SDMRANZ ZAIN TWICE.
05:11:43PM FEBRUARY 4, 2022 AND JUNE 9, 2022.
05:11:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
05:11:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE NUMBER REZ-21-07.
05:11:57PM THIS WAS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WHEN IT WAS FIRST
05:12:01PM FILED, CORRECT?
05:12:03PM >> YES, SIR, ORIGINALLY CONTINUED BECAUSE THE STAFF WAS ON
05:12:05PM THE COVID PROTOCOLS.
05:12:07PM AND WE DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THAT POINT -- I STAND
05:12:10PM CORRECTED IF IT WAS TWICE -- I THOUGHT IT WAS ONCE -- THAT
05:12:14PM WE CONTINUED.
05:12:14PM HOWEVER, WE DID CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
05:12:19PM ASSOCIATION.
05:12:19PM WE DID CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
05:12:24PM AND WE HAVE FOUND AS RECENTLY AS THIS WEEK WE STILL HAVE
05:12:27PM ISSUES WITH BOTH.
05:12:28PM I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE THOSE
05:12:31PM DISCUSSIONS AND COME BACK TO YOU.
05:12:33PM AS I SAID, WE WOULD NOT BE REQUESTING ANOTHER CONTINUANCE.
05:12:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS THAT
05:12:42PM WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE ONLY.
05:12:48PM JUST TO THE REQUEST OF THE CONTINUANCE ONLY.
05:12:52PM PLEASE FORM A LINE ON MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT, AND, LADIES AND
05:13:00PM GENTLEMEN, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, LET'S TRY TO AVOID
05:13:05PM REPEATING WHAT THE PERSON IN FRONT OF YOU SAID.
05:13:07PM THANK YOU.
05:13:08PM >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
05:13:10PM MY NAME IS ANALESE MEYER IN BRISTOL AVENUE WITHIN THE
05:13:15PM 200-FOOT NOTIFICATION ZONE OF THIS PETITIONER.
05:13:17PM YES, MR. MICHELINI DID MEET WITH A FEW OF US, JANUARY OF
05:13:21PM LAST YEAR THIS.
05:13:24PM THIS PETITION WAS FILED IN DECEMBER OF 2020.
05:13:27PM THERE HAVE BEEN NO RENOTIFICATION WHICH IS FINE BECAUSE WE
05:13:32PM ARE READY TO GO TONIGHT.
05:13:33PM I HAVE DOCTORS HERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:13:34PM OTHERS WHO LIVE WITHIN THE 250 FEET.
05:13:36PM I HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE VILLAGE GATE.
05:13:38PM WE ARE READY TO GO.
05:13:39PM HE HAD A YEAR TO GET HIS PARKING IN ORDER.
05:13:41PM SEVERAL WAIVERS HERE.
05:13:42PM WE ARE READY.
05:13:43PM WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS.
05:13:46PM STEPHEN AND I HAD A FEW DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, AND HE KNOWS
05:13:50PM THAT WE ARE OPPOSED.
05:13:51PM WE HAVE BEEN OPPOSED FROM DAY ONE.
05:13:54PM I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER TO LET THIS HEARING GO
05:13:57PM FORWARD TONIGHT BECAUSE IT IS HARD FOR SOME OF MY DOCTORS TO
05:14:01PM TAKE MORE TIME OFF.
05:14:02PM AND WE ARE READY.
05:14:03PM WE DON'T WANT TO WASTE ANY MORE STAFF TIME.
05:14:06PM AND IF YOU NEED FOR ME TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, I AM
05:14:09PM AVAILABLE.
05:14:09PM THANK YOU.
05:14:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:14:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE WE START WITH THE
05:14:14PM PUBLIC -- MR. SHELBY, PLEASE, AGAIN, REITERATE WHAT ARE THE
05:14:19PM RULES ON THE CONTINUANCES.
05:14:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE IS NO RULE AS TO CONTINUANCE RIGHT
05:14:25PM NOW, MR. GUDES.
05:14:27PM THIS -- YOU SEE -- THIS HAS BEEN CONTINUED IN THE PAST.
05:14:31PM AND THE QUESTION IS, WHETHER THE CASE IS ABLE TO IT BE HEARD
05:14:35PM TONIGHT.
05:14:35PM AND IT IS COUNCIL'S DISCRETION WHETHER OR NOT IT IS
05:14:39PM APPROPRIATE.
05:14:39PM THAT IS WHY YOU ASK THE PETITIONER WHY THE PETITIONER WANTS
05:14:42PM TO THE CONTINUANCE AND YOU WANT THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK TO THE
05:14:46PM CONTINUANCE TO WAIVE THE -- THE FACTORS IN ORDER FOR COUNCIL
05:14:52PM TO DECIDE WHETHER THIS CASE IS READY TO GO FORWARD.
05:14:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:14:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THOUGHT WE HAD A TWO CONTINUANCE RULE.
05:15:02PM AND THEN ALSO, WHILE -- WHAT HAPPENS IF WE -- IF WE -- IF WE
05:15:08PM SAY NO, IT GOES FORWARD TONIGHT, RIGHT.
05:15:10PM IF WE SAY YES, IT GETS CONTINUED.
05:15:12PM THOSE ARE THE CHOICES.
05:15:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL HAS HAD POLICIES IN THE PAST.
05:15:17PM I HAVE BEEN WORKING AT IT TO SEE WHAT THE COUNTY DOES WITH
05:15:21PM REGARD TO THE CONTINUANCES.
05:15:22PM THE COUNTY HAS A DIFFERENT PROCESS THAN WE HAVE IN TERMS OF
05:15:25PM THE WAY CASES ARE HEARD.
05:15:26PM BUT THAT BEING THE CASE, THERE ARE TIMES THAT COUNCIL HAS
05:15:30PM PUT IN THE PAST THE PETITIONER ON NOTICE THAT THIS WOULD BE
05:15:33PM HEARD TONIGHT.
05:15:33PM BUT THERE IS NO STANDING RULE.
05:15:35PM DUE PROCESS HAS BEEN AFFORDED.
05:15:38PM THE PETITIONER WAS ON NOTICE TO BE READY FOR TONIGHT.
05:15:41PM THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN HERE FROM THE TIME IT WAS FIRST
05:15:45PM ORIGINALLY NOTICED THROUGH THE CONTINUANCES.
05:15:47PM SO ULTIMATELY EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO RULE, THE QUESTION IS,
05:15:50PM WHETHER DUE PROCESS IS BEING AFFORDED.
05:15:53PM AND THE ANSWER IS, YES, THEY HAVE A NOTICE AND AN
05:15:56PM OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
05:15:57PM AND IT IS COUNCIL'S DISCRETION.
05:15:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS POYNOR, YOU WISH TO MAKE A STATEMENT ON
05:16:05PM THE REQUEST FOR THE CONTINUANCE ONLY.
05:16:07PM >> WHY DOES IT TAKE TWO YEARS TO FIGURE OUT A PLAN.
05:16:10PM AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT
05:16:14PM AND THE REZONING DEPARTMENT, THEY ARE ON POINT.
05:16:17PM THEY ARE READY TO GO.
05:16:18PM THIS IS A WASTE OF CITY COUNCIL TIME.
05:16:22PM THIS IS A WASTE OF OUR RESOURCES.
05:16:25PM AND WE KEEP BEATING YOUR HEADS AGAINST THE WALL.
05:16:28PM NOT MY HEAD, Y'ALL'S HEADS DEALING WITH THIS OVER AND OVER
05:16:32PM AND OVER AGAIN.
05:16:33PM IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME MR.
05:16:38PM MICHELINI HAS EVER COME HERE AND ASKED FOR MULTIPLE
05:16:41PM CONTINUANCES.
05:16:41PM I WILL OFFER THAT IT IS MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE TIMES.
05:16:45PM I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO SUPPORT
05:16:48PM THE STATEMENT THAT I JUST MADE.
05:16:50PM BUT WHEN DO WE STOP MAKING A MOCKERY OF OUR CITY COUNCIL
05:16:53PM MEETINGS.
05:16:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:16:56PM MISS BENNETT.
05:16:59PM >> HI, CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
05:17:02PM IT IS VERY HARD TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL TO TESTIFY.
05:17:06PM PEOPLE MAKE A BIG SACRIFICE TO DO IT.
05:17:09PM SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO TAKE TIME OFF FROM WORK.
05:17:12PM THEY HAVE TO GET BABYSITTERS.
05:17:15PM THEY ARE CONFUSED BY THE PARKING DOWNTOWN.
05:17:17PM THEY DON'T LIKE TO DRIVE AT NIGHT.
05:17:18PM IT IS A SACRIFICE AND IT IS A BURDEN, FOR PEOPLE TO SHOW UP
05:17:22PM WHEN THEY SHOW UP, THEY ONLY FEEL WHEN THEY FEEL VERY
05:17:25PM STRONGLY ABOUT SOMETHING.
05:17:26PM FOR PEOPLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT READY TO GO AND TO SAY TO
05:17:30PM THEM, SORRY, YOU HAVE TO BEAR THIS BURDEN YET AGAIN, IT IS
05:17:33PM JUST TOO MUCH.
05:17:33PM TWO CONTINUANCES, NOW THE THIRD CONTINUANCE.
05:17:37PM THE WASTE OF STAFF TIME.
05:17:39PM WE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST HOW IT WASTES STAFF TIME.
05:17:42PM WE EVEN DISCUSSED HAVING A RULE WHERE SO MANY DAYS BEFORE
05:17:48PM THE CASE IS GOING TO BE HEARD, THEY CAN GET A CONTINUANCE,
05:17:51PM SAY TEN DAYS BEFORE, TWO WEEKS BEFORE, WHATEVER, WITH NO
05:17:54PM QUESTIONS ASKED.
05:17:55PM AUTOMATIC CONTINUANCE.
05:17:57PM CLOSER TO THE DATE TO THAT, IT HAS BEEN AN EXTREME UNUSUAL
05:18:01PM REASON.
05:18:01PM AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT.
05:18:03PM YOU GUYS -- YOU ALL KEEP HAVING TO PUT MORE DATES ON YOUR
05:18:07PM CALENDAR BECAUSE TOO MUCH OF THIS.
05:18:10PM SO I AM ASKING YOU TO NOT GRANT THE CONTINUANCE.
05:18:13PM THANK YOU.
05:18:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:18:15PM IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE
05:18:20PM CONTINUANCE ONLY?
05:18:29PM >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
05:18:30PM I WILL BE BRIEF.
05:18:31PM I WANT TO STATE THAT I RECENTLY MOVED -- MY NAME IS BARBARA
05:18:34PM SANTANA.
05:18:35PM I RECENTLY MOVED TO BRISTOL AVENUE.
05:18:37PM I AM LEARNING ABOUT ALL THIS NOW AND I AM ASKING FOR NO
05:18:41PM CONTINUANCE.
05:18:41PM >> DR. PHILLIP COKER AND I AM NEIGHBORS.
05:18:56PM AND I OPPOSE THE CONTINUANCE.
05:18:58PM THANK YOU.
05:18:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:19:00PM ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE
05:19:04PM CONTINUANCE ONLY.
05:19:05PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE SOMEONE ON THE TELEPHONE TO SPEAK ON THE
05:19:13PM CONTINUANCE.
05:19:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:19:15PM WHO IS THERE?
05:19:19PM >> YES.
05:19:19PM I'M HERE.
05:19:20PM JANE SIMON.
05:19:21PM I REPRESENT PARKLAND ESTATES WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD
05:19:24PM ADJACENT TO BRISTOL AVE.
05:19:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
05:19:31PM [SWEARING IN]
05:19:36PM >> YES.
05:19:37PM >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
05:19:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, PLEASE PROCEED.
05:19:41PM >> WE OPPOSE THE CONTINUANCE AND WE OPPOSE THE -- THAT WAS
05:19:49PM DISCUSSED BY OUR NEIGHBORS ON BRISTOL AVENUE.
05:19:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:19:55PM I SEE FOUR MORE PEOPLE TO SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE ONLY.
05:19:58PM >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS CONNIE HAYDEN McPEAK.
05:20:04PM I LIVE AT THE VILLAGE OF HYDE PARK.
05:20:08PM WE ARE DIRECTLY WEST OF ALL OF THE THINGS, THE GREEN LEMON,
05:20:12PM THE PARKING LOT OF THE GREEN LEMON AND THE EATERY AT DAILY
05:20:16PM EATS.
05:20:16PM WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE CONTINUANCE.
05:20:18PM THIS IS THE THIRD TIME I HAVE COME HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT.
05:20:21PM SO THANK YOU.
05:20:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:20:23PM >> HI, GOOD EVENING.
05:20:29PM YVONNE FERELI, A RESIDENT OF PARKLAND ESTATES, AND I OPPOSE
05:20:37PM THE CONTINUANCE.
05:20:38PM EVERYBODY ELSE IS READY.
05:20:39PM I AM SURE MR. MICHELINI CAN BE READY TODAY TOO.
05:20:42PM THANK YOU.
05:20:42PM >> HI, GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS BARBARA COKER.
05:20:48PM I LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES AS WELL, AND I OPPOSE THE
05:20:52PM CONTINUANCE TONIGHT.
05:20:53PM >> HELLO, KATHY WOODARD AND A RESIDENT OF PARKLAND ESTATES
05:21:01PM IN BRISTOL AVENUE, AND I OPPOSE THE CONTINUANCE.
05:21:04PM HE HAS APPARENTLY PLENTY OF TIME TO DO -- TO BE PREPARED FOR
05:21:08PM IT.
05:21:08PM >> HI, MY NAME IS LESLIE BELL.
05:21:16PM I LIVE ON BRISTOL AVENUE AND I OPPOSE THE CONTINUANCE.
05:21:19PM THANKS.
05:21:20PM >> MIKE BELL, ALSO ON BRISTOL AVENUE, TWO DOORS DOWN FROM
05:21:24PM DAILY EATS, AND I OPPOSE IT.
05:21:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES
05:21:35PM TO SPEAK?
05:21:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.
05:21:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
05:21:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO DENY THE CONTINUANCE.
05:21:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE HAS BEEN -- I DON'T
05:21:49PM KNOW IF THE POLICY HAS WRITTEN BUT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST MANY
05:21:51PM YEARS THAT WE WILL GIVE TWO CONTINUANCES WITH NO PROBLEM.
05:21:55PM BUT THE THIRD ONE, A LOT OF CHANGES MADE IN THE DEPARTMENT
05:21:58PM TO HANDLE THIS.
05:21:59PM AND MAYBE THERE WERE UP TO WHAT HAPPENED TEN YEARS AGO OR
05:22:04PM FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT THE THIRD ONE WILL HAVE TO BE RECALLED
05:22:09PM -- RENOTICED.
05:22:10PM >> I DON'T MIND RENOTICING.
05:22:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT MEANS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO NOT
05:22:16PM CONTINUE THIS ONE TODAY.
05:22:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL HAVE TO REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA
05:22:21PM AND START IT FRESH.
05:22:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS --
05:22:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAIT FOR A SECOND.
05:22:31PM MR. SHELBY?
05:22:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS AN OPTION OF THE PETITIONER IF THE
05:22:38PM PETITION WISHES TO WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION.
05:22:41PM HE CAN WITHDRAW IT.
05:22:43PM IF THE COUNCIL DOES NOT GRANT THE CONTINUANCE, THEN THE --
05:22:47PM THEN HIS OPTION IS TO EITHER WITHDRAW IT OR TO GO FORWARD
05:22:52PM WITH IT OR TO JUST PRESENT HIS CASE, HOWEVER HE SEES FIT.
05:22:56PM HE HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY.
05:22:57PM WHAT WAS THE MOTION AGAIN?
05:23:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE MOTION IS TO DENY THE CONTINUANCE MADE
05:23:03PM BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:23:04PM MIRANDA THERE WAS A SECOND.
05:23:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:23:11PM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
05:23:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
05:23:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:23:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:23:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:23:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:23:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:23:31PM >>CLERK: OKAY.
05:23:34PM MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO -- NOT UNANIMOUS.
05:23:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 5-1 WITH MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
05:23:49PM >>CLERK: THAT'S CORRECT.
05:23:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS YOUR REQUEST NOW, MR. MICHELINI.
05:23:53PM DO YOU WISH TO PROCEED OR WISH TO WITHDRAW IT FROM THE
05:23:57PM AGENDA.
05:23:58PM >> I NEED A CHANCE TO CONFER WITH THE CLIENT.
05:24:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE AGENDA
05:24:09PM REVIEW.
05:24:09PM >> THANK YOU, ANOTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA NUMBER TEN.
05:24:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN WE GO THROUGH MR. HUSSEIN WITH THIS.
05:24:18PM PROCEED WITH YOUR AGENDA REVIEW.
05:24:20PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:24:24PM NEXT CONTINUANCE ASK IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
05:24:28PM FILE NO REZ-22-69.
05:24:31PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO MOVE THIS CASE TO MARCH 9,
05:24:36PM 2023.
05:24:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAS THIS BEEN CONTINUED BEFORE?
05:24:41PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: CORRECT, ON SEPTEMBER 8.
05:24:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS WILL BE THE SECOND CONTINUANCE.
05:24:47PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: SEPTEMBER 8, 2022, CORRECT.
05:24:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
05:24:55PM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE FOR AGENDA NUMBER
05:24:58PM SEVEN.
05:24:59PM FILE NO REZ-22-69 WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE?
05:25:07PM ITEM NUMBER 7, FILE NO REZ-22-69.
05:25:13PM ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE CONTINUANCE ONLY?
05:25:17PM SEEING NONE.
05:25:19PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
05:25:21PM >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
05:25:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE --
05:25:30PM >> TYLER HUDSON, NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
05:25:33PM I DO NOT LIKE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE.
05:25:36PM WE NEED A FEW MONTHS TO WORK OUT A PRIVATE EASEMENT WITH AN
05:25:41PM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.
05:25:42PM MY CLIENT DARYL SHAW HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE
05:25:44PM ADMINISTRATION ON THIS PROJECT FOR A FEW YEARS NOW.
05:25:46PM IT IS TO HOPEFULLY CREATE A SKIFF OFFICE, A COMPARTMENTALIZE
05:25:54PM FACILITY.
05:25:55PM SOMETHING THAT THE CONTRACTOR INDUSTRY.
05:25:57PM IT IS A GOOD PROJECT AND NEED MORE TIME AND ASK FOR YOUR
05:26:02PM CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 9.
05:26:03PM I DO NOT WANT TO ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE, I ASSURE YOU THAT.
05:26:06PM WE WILL BE PREPARED THEN.
05:26:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 7.
05:26:10PM FILE NO REZ-22-69 TO MARCH 9, 2023 AT 5:01 P.M.
05:26:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:26:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO BRING THIS TO THE ABREAST, THE
05:26:22PM SECOND CONTINUANCE.
05:26:23PM UNDERSTAND THERE WILL NOT BE A THIRD.
05:26:25PM >> I UNDERSTAND.
05:26:26PM WE WILL BE REDRAWING OR PRESENT THAT DAY FOR SURE.
05:26:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:26:33PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:26:35PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:26:36PM AYE.
05:26:37PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:26:43PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:26:46PM NEXT CONTINUANCE IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.
05:26:49PM FILE NO. AB2-22-09.
05:26:51PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO CONTINUE THIS CASE UNTIL
05:26:57PM 3/23/2023.
05:26:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:27:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:27:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE FIRST TAMPA WANTS.
05:27:06PM >> THIS CASE WAS CONTINUED TWICE ON SEPTEMBER 22 AND OCTOBER
05:27:10PM 7, 2022.
05:27:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CONTINUED TWICE.
05:27:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS COYLE.
05:27:16PM >> GOOD EVENING, CATHERINE COYLE, URBAN PLANNING INNOVATION,
05:27:22PM 5312 NORTH SWAUNNEE AVENUE.
05:27:25PM APOLOGIZE FOR THE ADDRESS.
05:27:27PM IT IS TRUE, THIS IS OUR THIRD CONTINUANCE REQUEST.
05:27:30PM LOOKING AT THE DATES, YOU NOTICE THAT ONE WAS ONLY A MONTH
05:27:34PM APART.
05:27:34PM WE ARE LOOKING BACK SHOULD HAVE CONTINUED THAT OUT FARTHER
05:27:38PM AND MIGHT ACTUALLY BE FARTHER ALONG.
05:27:40PM THE REALITY IS WE MET -- TWO MEETINGS WITH THE ASSOCIATIONS.
05:27:44PM WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING WE ARE HOSTING NEXT WEEK
05:27:49PM AT OUR CLIENT'S FACILITIES BRINGING BOTH NEIGHBORHOOD
05:27:51PM ASSOCIATIONS IN.
05:27:52PM WE ARE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL TIME AS WELL TO WORK THROUGH
05:27:55PM THE ISSUE THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF
05:27:58PM WEEKS SO LOOKING FOR FOREDATE LATE JANUARY, EARLY FEBRUARY
05:28:06PM TO GIVE US ENOUGH TIME PAST THE HOLIDAYS.
05:28:08PM TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS FOR PEOPLE TO COME OUT,
05:28:11PM WORK WITH US ON THOSE CONDITIONS AND ITEMS TO BRING BACK
05:28:15PM FORWARD TO YOU.
05:28:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:28:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I LIKE TO BE FAIR, MISS COYLE, BUT IF I DO
05:28:21PM ONE, I GOT TO DO ANOTHER.
05:28:22PM >> I UNDERSTAND.
05:28:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE TO BE FAIR.
05:28:25PM AND I AM ASKING FOR THE MOTION MR. SHELBY, WE NEED TO STOP
05:28:30PM THIS.
05:28:30PM I DON'T KNOW IF -- IF THERE IS A GAME BEING PLAYED NOW.
05:28:34PM I DON'T KNOW.
05:28:34PM I AM NOT ACCUSING ANYONE OF ANYTHING, BUT WHEN I SAY I GET
05:28:39PM FOLKS WHO HAVE TO TAKE OFF -- TRYING TO GET HOME FOR
05:28:42PM DINNERTIME AND HAVE TO COME DOWN HERE AND KEEP COMING DOWN.
05:28:45PM IT IS JUST NOT RIGHT.
05:28:46PM JUST NOT RIGHT.
05:28:47PM THE REASON I AM UPSET BECAUSE ONE OF MY EMPLOYEES IN THE
05:28:50PM CLERK'S OFFICE TALKING OF THE PARKING GARAGE AND HOW SHE HAS
05:28:53PM TO CATCH A TROLLEY WAY DOWN TO YBOR.
05:28:55PM AND THESE KIND OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOT TO KIND OF
05:28:59PM CORRECT ON THE COUNCIL LEVEL.
05:29:00PM BUT I AM GOING TO MOVE TO DENY THIS BECAUSE A THIRD
05:29:04PM CONTINUANCE.
05:29:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
05:29:06PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:29:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY CONCERN WITH THIS IS THAT ALL OF THESE
05:29:12PM KEEP BEING ASKED FOR AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
05:29:14PM AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS, THE PUBLIC ALREADY
05:29:19PM BELIEVES IT IS GOING TO BE CONTINUED?
05:29:21PM >> WE DID SEND IT OUT TO THE ASSOCIATION TO LET THEM KNOW WE
05:29:24PM WERE ASKING --
05:29:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WE ARE STUCK BECAUSE WITH NUMBER FIVE AND
05:29:28PM SIX, THEY DIDN'T ASK UNTIL -- YEAH, IT'S TRICKY BECAUSE WE
05:29:36PM HAVE SOME PEOPLE HERE FOR THAT AND SOME PEOPLE NOT HERE --
05:29:39PM WE NEED A RULE -- WE NEED A RULE OF WHEN WE ARE GOING TO
05:29:43PM STOP ACCEPTING CONTINUANCES.
05:29:47PM WE NEED A TIME CERTAIN.
05:29:49PM THIS -- -- WE CAN'T EVEN GET INTO THE ACTUAL WORK BECAUSE WE
05:29:53PM ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER TO HEAR SOMETHING.
05:29:55PM THIS IS REALLY FRUSTRATING.
05:29:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GOING BY MEMORY.
05:29:59PM TWO CONTINUANCES AND THE THIRD -- WE MAKE YOU RENOTIFY.
05:30:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL INVESTIGATE THAT.
05:30:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAYBE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS RECORDS OF
05:30:11PM THAT.
05:30:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT THE END OF THE DAY I WILL ASK TO BRING
05:30:15PM BACK CERTAINTY AFTER THE 15TH.
05:30:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT AND
05:30:21PM ALSO THE SAME.
05:30:22PM YOU CAN DO IT ALL YOU WANT, THREE AND THREE NO MATTER WHAT
05:30:26PM THE CONSEQUENCES ARE.
05:30:27PM >> I WILL SAY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
05:30:30PM OTHER CASES ARE THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY TRYING -- WE ARE
05:30:32PM HOSTING OUR OWN MEETING TO TRY TO BRING PEOPLE IN AND TRYING
05:30:35PM TO CONTACT PEOPLE AND WORK THROUGH THE CONDITIONS.
05:30:38PM WE HAD GOOD E-MAILS AND DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH AND ATTENDED
05:30:42PM A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AS WELL.
05:30:44PM WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THE CONDITIONS.
05:30:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GREAT PEOPLE.
05:30:47PM GREAT CITIZENS ALWAYS.
05:30:50PM >> I I UNDERSTAND.
05:30:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOING TO REQUEST THAT MY AIDE START THAT
05:30:57PM MOTION AND WE CAN WORKSHOP IT WHILE WE ARE FINISHING IT UP
05:31:00PM THROUGH THE EVENING.
05:31:01PM THANK YOU.
05:31:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO
05:31:08PM SPEAK FOR THE REQUEST FOR THE CONTINUANCE FOR AGENDA ITEM --
05:31:14PM FILE NO. AB2-22-09.
05:31:17PM >> I JUST SPOKE WITH MR. SEAL WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE
05:31:23PM HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION -- OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION,
05:31:25PM AND HE IS ON HIS WAY UP HERE.
05:31:27PM HE SUPPORTS THE CONTINUANCE.
05:31:30PM THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.
05:31:31PM THEY ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THEM ON GETTING THE DETAILS
05:31:37PM IRONED OUT ON THIS SITUATION, BUT HE IS NOT UP HERE YET.
05:31:40PM I JUST CALLED HIM TO VERIFY THIS BEFORE I GOT UP HERE TO
05:31:43PM SPEAK.
05:31:43PM PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
05:31:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO
05:31:51PM SPEAK TO THIS CONTINUANCE ONLY?
05:31:53PM ANYONE ONLINE?
05:31:55PM >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
05:31:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:31:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
05:32:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:32:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: SOMEBODY FROM LEGAL AND MARTY EXPLAIN WHAT
05:32:07PM HAPPENS IF -- IF WE DENY A CONTINUANCE SO THEY HAVE A CHOICE
05:32:12PM OF GOING TONIGHT OR THEY CAN CANCEL THE APPLICATION.
05:32:15PM IF THEY CANCEL THE APPLICATION, THEY HAVE LIKE A ONE-YEAR
05:32:18PM WAITING PERIOD?
05:32:19PM WHAT IS THE RULE.
05:32:20PM CAN SOMEBODY CLARIFY JUST FOR THE PUBLIC.
05:32:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS FEELEY?
05:32:26PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, ABBYE FEELEY, DEPUTY
05:32:30PM ADMINISTRATOR, PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
05:32:32PM IF A CASE CHOOSES TO WITHDRAW WITH 27-150.
05:32:37PM SIX MONTHS FROM THE STATE OF THE NOTICE.
05:32:41PM THE NOTICE IS THEM TELLING --
05:32:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: A NEW APPLICATION ALL TOGETHER AND WE NEED
05:32:48PM NOTICE.
05:32:49PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: CORRECT.
05:32:50PM STARTING THE FIRST OF THE YEAR ONE REZONING HEARING A MONTH
05:32:54PM AND ONE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE A MONTH.
05:32:55PM WE ARE NOT ASKING COUNCIL FOR ANY ADDITIONAL HEARINGS TO
05:32:59PM ACCOMMODATE THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY WHERE AN APPLICANT IS NOT
05:33:02PM PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CASE.
05:33:04PM SO WE WILL BE GOING BACK TO HOW WE WERE PREPANDEMIC.
05:33:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SEAL.
05:33:14PM PLEASE, COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
05:33:18PM [SWEARING IN]
05:33:24PM >> I DO.
05:33:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE HERE TALKING OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8,
05:33:28PM FILE NO. AB2-22-09.
05:33:31PM THE PETITIONER IS ASKING FOR A REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE.
05:33:35PM DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THAT CONTINUANCE ONLY?
05:33:38PM >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:33:39PM THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE ACCOMMODATE AS MISS POYNOR ALLUDED
05:33:45PM TO.
05:33:45PM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSE WITH THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
05:33:49PM ASSOCIATION.
05:33:49PM MYSELF BRIAN SEAL AS THE PRESIDENT TO COME TO TERMS WITH
05:33:54PM THEIR AB 2 REZONING REQUEST AND I AM SUPPORTIVE AS WELL THE
05:33:58PM OTHER ASSOCIATION BOARD FOR THE CONTINUANCE TO CONTINUE WITH
05:34:01PM SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS.
05:34:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:34:03PM ANYONE ELSE TO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?
05:34:07PM THERE IS A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO DENY THE
05:34:12PM CONTINUANCE.
05:34:13PM IS THERE A SECOND?
05:34:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
05:34:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO
05:34:20PM DENY.
05:34:21PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:34:23PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:34:28PM MR. SHELBY.
05:34:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM DEBATING WHETHER I SHOULD RAISE THIS,
05:34:32PM COUNCIL.
05:34:32PM BUT ANOTHER DISTINGUISHING FACTOR BETWEEN THIS ONE AND THAT
05:34:36PM WAS BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION BY MISS COYLE IS THE DATE OF
05:34:40PM THE FIRST TAMPA WANTS.
05:34:41PM THIS ONE WAS IN SEPTEMBER AS TO YOUR PREVIOUS ONE WAS BACK
05:34:44PM IN FEBRUARY SO THAT -- IN TERMS OF -- WE ALSO HAVE A RULE
05:34:49PM THAT REQUIRES -- UNLESS IT IS WAIVED BY CITY COUNCIL 180
05:34:52PM DAYS TO HAVE IT HEARD.
05:34:54PM AND THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THESE THINGS HAPPEN TIMELY AND I
05:34:58PM WANTED TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION AS WELL.
05:35:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE STILL HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR MADE
05:35:04PM BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:35:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BASED ON WHAT THE COUNSELOR JUST SAID, I
05:35:13PM AM NOT TOTALLY AGAINST IF IT IS LEGALLY POSSIBLE WITH 180
05:35:16PM DAYS BECAUSE THIS IS EVIDENTLY SOMETHING THAT HAS COME OUT
05:35:18PM OF THE CLEAR BLUE SKY FOR THE SECOND OR THIRD TIME BUT A LOT
05:35:22PM OF PEOPLE WEREN'T AWARE OF THAT THIRD TIME, I AM WILLING THE
05:35:25PM 180 DAYS MAKE IT 60 DAYS OR 90 DAYS IF IT IS LEGALLY
05:35:29PM POSSIBLE.
05:35:29PM I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL FOR ONE SIDE OR THE
05:35:33PM OTHER SIDE.
05:35:33PM IT WILL ALL BE THE SAME.
05:35:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:35:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SEE THIS IS WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE A STRAIGHT
05:35:42PM RULE, HOW IT GETS MUDDIED.
05:35:44PM WE JUST DENIED MR. MICHELINI.
05:35:49PM WE JUST DENIED HIM.
05:35:51PM AN NOW WE ARE GOING TO GO AND POSSIBLY -- I AM NOT.
05:35:55PM I AM A RULES KIND OF GUY.
05:35:59PM I MEAN IT IS WHAT IT IS.
05:36:00PM AND I AM NOT GOING TO -- YOU KNOW, HAVE MY CONSCIOUS.
05:36:05PM I AM JUST ONE MAN.
05:36:06PM I LET ANOTHER GROUP GO AND THE SAME THING APPLIED.
05:36:09PM DON'T TELL ME ABOUT THE DAYS, THE BOTTOM LINE TWO
05:36:12PM CONTINUANCES, RIGHT, MR. SHELBY?
05:36:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
05:36:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: TWO CONTINUANCES.
05:36:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN ASK STAFF THAT.
05:36:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ZAIN, TWO CONTINUANCES.
05:36:22PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: CORRECT, TWO CONTINUANCES ALREADY.
05:36:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOR ME IT'S THE RULE.
05:36:27PM WE HAD TWO.
05:36:28PM I AM GOING TO STICK WITH THE MOTION.
05:36:30PM I AM SORRY.
05:36:30PM BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE MISS FEELEY SAID.
05:36:34PM THAT'S WHY WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER THIS THE YEAR MAKING
05:36:37PM SURE WE DON'T HAVE THIS ANYMORE AND PUTTING A BURDEN ON BE
05:36:41PM THIS COUNCIL.
05:36:41PM I AM GOING TO STICK WITH MY MOTION.
05:36:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE STILL HAVE A MOTION MADE IT BY COUNCILMAN
05:36:49PM GUDES.
05:36:49PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:36:51PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
05:36:52PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:36:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH THAT.
05:36:55PM IN THE ABSENCE OF A -- OF A RULE THAT PROVIDES EXCEPTIONS, I
05:36:59PM THINK WE SHOULD VOTE AGAINST ANY THIRD CONTINUANCE.
05:37:02PM THANK YOU.
05:37:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:37:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE, BUT IN -- IN ABSENCE OF AN ACTUAL
05:37:12PM RULE, THE DIFFERENCE IS I SEE THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE
05:37:16PM NEIGHBORHOOD SAYING THAT THEY ARE WORKING WITH THE
05:37:19PM APPLICANT.
05:37:19PM WHEREAS THE LAST GROUP, LARGE GROUP OF NEIGHBORS SAID THAT
05:37:25PM THEY WEREN'T AND THAT THEY ARE READY TO GO.
05:37:27PM SO TO ME, THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE, AND THAT IS WHY I WILL BE
05:37:31PM VOTING FOR THE CONTINUANCE.
05:37:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.
05:37:36PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
05:37:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:37:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
05:37:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:37:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
05:37:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:37:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
05:37:59PM 3-3.
05:38:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE AS REQUESTED BY THE
05:38:11PM APPLICANT.
05:38:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
05:38:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND A
05:38:17PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO CONTINUE THIS ROE V. WADE
05:38:21PM NUMBER -- AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE NO. AB2-22-09.
05:38:26PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:38:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:38:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
05:38:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:38:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
05:38:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
05:38:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:38:50PM MR. SHELBY, I GUESS --
05:38:55PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE 3-3.
05:38:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. HUSSEIN.
05:39:01PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:39:05PM MAY I CLARIFY SOMETHING THIS CASE FILE NO. AB2-22-09 IS
05:39:08PM DIFFERENT FROM THE PREVIOUS TWO CASES ASKING FOR
05:39:10PM CONTINUANCE.
05:39:10PM AS THIS IS WITHIN THE 180 DAYS AS IN THE LAST TWO
05:39:17PM APPLICATIONS WERE REQUESTING FOR -- FAR SURPASSING 180 DAYS.
05:39:21PM THAT IS THE CLARIFICATION.
05:39:22PM THAT IS THE SEPARATION.
05:39:23PM SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
05:39:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT A LAWYER, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT
05:39:28PM YOU SAID.
05:39:29PM BUT THE RULE TO APPLY THAT IS ONLY FOR OTHER THINGS.
05:39:33PM WHEN YOU HAVE THREE CONTINUANCES, YOU ALLOW TWO, AND I AM
05:39:38PM GOING TO FIND THAT RULE SOME TIME.
05:39:40PM I REMEMBER THAT BEING ON COUNCIL SOME TIME BACK.
05:39:42PM I AM GOING TO GO SEE THE CITY ATTORNEYS THEN AND ASK THEM.
05:39:46PM BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IS HOW IT WAS.
05:39:48PM I AM NOT CERTAIN, BUT I BELIEVE THAT.
05:39:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS FEELEY.
05:39:54PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: COUNCIL, IF I MAY FOR JUST A MOMENT.
05:39:56PM SO THERE IS THE RULE THAT SAYS FROM THE TIME YOUR SET TO THE
05:40:00PM TIME -- IT IS IN AND OUT OF 180 DAYS.
05:40:03PM I THINK WHAT ZAIN IS TRYING TO SAY TO YOU IS WHEN SOMEBODY
05:40:07PM COMES FOR A CONTINUANCE AND IT EXCEEDS THAT 180-DAY
05:40:11PM DEADLINE, THEY HAVE TO ASK YOU FOR AN EXCEPTION TO GO BEYOND
05:40:14PM THE 180 DAYS.
05:40:15PM SO A LOT OF TIMES YOU SEE THOSE CONTINUANCES, THEY COME IN
05:40:21PM AT THE SECOND TIME.
05:40:22PM IN ADDITION TO ASKING YOU FOR A CONTINUANCE THEY HAVE TO ASK
05:40:24PM YOU TO EXTEND BEYOND THE 180 DAYS IN THE CASE OF ITEM FIVE
05:40:29PM AND SIX, YOU HAVE CASES 21-07.
05:40:33PM THE SEVENTH CASE OF 2021 THAT STARTED OCTOBER 1 OF 2020.
05:40:39PM WHEN WE WENT INTO THAT FISCAL YEAR.
05:40:41PM SO IN THIS CASE, THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
05:40:45PM AND UNFORTUNATELY -- I MEAN, IT IS THE HEIGHTS.
05:40:49PM IT IS A VERY LARGE AREA.
05:40:50PM NOT A SINGLE PARCEL.
05:40:52PM THEY ARE WORKING.
05:40:53PM I UNDERSTAND OBVIOUSLY IT IS UP TO YOU, BUT WITHIN THE RULES
05:40:57PM OF WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN THE CODE, IT STILL FALLS WITHIN
05:41:00PM THAT QUOTE, UNQUOTE, PROCESSING TIME WHICH WOULD AFFORD THEM
05:41:05PM THE ABILITY TO WORK THROUGH THEIR CASE.
05:41:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES THE RULE SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT.
05:41:09PM EXACTLY THAT THE RULE SAYS WITHIN -- YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU
05:41:12PM WANT FIVE TIMES.
05:41:13PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO, SIR, IT DOESN'T.
05:41:15PM THAT STILL LIES WITH YOU.
05:41:17PM I AM TRYING TO GIVE SOME PERSPECTIVE HOW LONG YOU IT HAS
05:41:19PM BEEN IN PROCESS AND THEIR EFFORT TO TRY TO RESOLVE IT.
05:41:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:41:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:41:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE ARE TALKING OF THE PEOPLE THAT CAME
05:41:28PM DOWN TODAY TO LISTEN, TO STATE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT A
05:41:32PM REZONING OR ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
05:41:34PM SO THAT MEANS THOSE SAME PEOPLE -- I AM NOT SAYING.THIS CASE
05:41:38PM IN THEORY, BUT WITHIN 100 DAYS THEY CAN COME HERE THREE
05:41:42PM DIFFERENT TIMES AND THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN?
05:41:45PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
05:41:46PM AND I AM -- I'M HERE.
05:41:48PM AN WE WILL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON THE PROCEDURE THAT
05:41:52PM YOU WOULD LIKE TO IMPLEMENT IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE NUMBER OF
05:41:55PM CONTINUANCES.
05:41:56PM ONE CAME IN AT 6:00 LAST NIGHT FOR A CASE FOR TODAY.
05:42:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
05:42:03PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SOME APPLICANTS AFFORD THE PUBLIC AND
05:42:07PM NEIGHBORHOODS ASSOCIATION WHEN THEY ARE GOING OUT.
05:42:09PM SOMETHING ALSO THAT COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER WHEN THEY
05:42:12PM LOOK AT IMPLEMENTING THESE RULES AND I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT.
05:42:15PM I KNOW YOU ARE SITTING AT THE DAIS WITH A 3-3 VOTE RIGHT NOW
05:42:19PM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND I AM SURE THE APPLICANT IS TRYING
05:42:21PM TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE GOING TO GO FROM HERE.
05:42:23PM TYPICALLY A TIE VOTE, IT ROLLS TO THE NEXT HEARING ANYWAY.
05:42:26PM SO UP TO YOU.
05:42:28PM I WAS JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL PERSPECTIVE.
05:42:31PM THANK YOU.
05:42:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ARE RIGHT.
05:42:33PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:42:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, I AM VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE I KNOW
05:42:38PM THAT BRIAN IS LUCKY ENOUGH -- TAMPA HEIGHTS ISN'T TOO FAR
05:42:44PM AWAY AND HE WAS ABLE TO RUN DOWN HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF
05:42:48PM ANY OF HIS NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT
05:42:50PM TONIGHT.
05:42:50PM FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY WERE TOLD A MEETING NEXT WEEK ON
05:42:56PM THIS.
05:42:56PM AND THAT IS MY CONCERN THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE
05:42:58PM CITIZENS HERE WHO WOULD WANT BE TO SPEAK ON THIS.
05:43:01PM AND THAT'S WHY.
05:43:02PM FOR THE OTHER CASE, WE HAD CITIZENS HERE WILLING -- WANTING
05:43:06PM TO SPEAK.
05:43:06PM RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT FOR -- FOR THIS
05:43:10PM CASE.
05:43:10PM AND THAT IS WHAT CONCERNS ME.
05:43:12PM SO, YES, WE -- MY AIDE AND I ARE WORKING ON A MOTION TO BE
05:43:18PM PUT FORWARD TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT IN THE MEANTIME,
05:43:22PM I JUST -- IN GOOD CONSCIOUS, I CAN'T -- I CAN'T VOTE -- EVEN
05:43:27PM IF THIS CAME UP, I COULDN'T VOTE BECAUSE I CAN'T -- WE DON'T
05:43:31PM HAVE THE PEOPLE HERE.
05:43:32PM WE REALLY OWE IT TO THE PEOPLE.
05:43:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
05:43:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS I
05:43:39PM HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH DISCUSSING THIS WITH STAFF AND
05:43:43PM LEGAL ABOUT THE CONTINUANCES.
05:43:44PM IF SOMEBODY THINKS THAT THEY HAVE A CONTINUANCE COMING UP AS
05:43:48PM A MATTER OF RIGHT, THEN -- THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS -- THEN THAT
05:43:55PM -- THAT IS ONE WAY OF HANDLING IT.
05:43:57PM BUT IN A SITUATION SUCH AS THIS, AFTER THIS CONTINUANCE GOES
05:44:01PM TO A SECOND CONTINUANCE, THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH THE
05:44:07PM DEVELOPING A PROCESS, WHICH I -- I THINK IS NECESSARY THE
05:44:12PM WAY IT IS BEING SET OUT IS THIS WE HAVE A SITUATION AS
05:44:23PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID TONIGHT IF THE PETITIONER SAYS THEY
05:44:27PM ARE GOING TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE AN ASSUMPTION THAT THE
05:44:30PM COUNCIL WILL GRANT IT IN THE MINDS OF THE PUBLIC THAT MAY
05:44:33PM PRECLUDE THEM FROM SHOWING UP.
05:44:35PM WHATEVER RULE HAS TO BE SET FORTH, IT HAS TO BE IN SUCH A
05:44:39PM WAY THAT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHETHER
05:44:44PM THERE IS GOING TO BE A CONTINUANCE GRANTED BUT AN ASSUMPTION
05:44:47PM ON THE PART OF THE PUBLIC THAT MAY KEEP THEM AWAY FROM BEING
05:44:50PM HERE.
05:44:51PM WHATEVER RULE COMES UP THAT SAYS YOU ARE GOING TO GO FORWARD
05:44:54PM -- NOT EVERYBODY IS IN THE 250-FOOT NOTICE AREA.
05:44:59PM NOT EVERYBODY IS SEEING A SIGN AND NOT EVERYBODY IS WATCHING
05:45:02PM TELEVISION AS IT IS HAPPENING OR WATCHES THE RERUNS.
05:45:06PM WHATEVER IS CRAFTED WE NEED TO FIND OUT IT IS FAIR AND
05:45:09PM CONSISTENT BECAUSE PEOPLE DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE
05:45:11PM HEARD.
05:45:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:45:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:45:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE -- WE SHOULD DO WHAT
05:45:21PM MISS FEELEY DO OR REVOTE.
05:45:23PM IN CASE WE REVOTE, CAN I ASK LEGAL A QUESTION REAL FAST.
05:45:27PM MISS WELLS MAYBE -- IS MISS FEELEY --ZAIN TALKED ABOUT THE
05:45:35PM 180-DAY RULE.
05:45:35PM SUFFICIENT -- SORRY I DON'T -- SO THEY ARE LEGALLY
05:45:40PM DIFFERENT.
05:45:40PM CAN WE -- CAN WE MAKE THAT A POINT OF DIFFERENTIATION.
05:45:45PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
05:45:49PM DEPARTMENT.
05:45:49PM A DISTINCTION OF THE TWO CASES IF COUNCIL THINKS IT IS A
05:45:55PM DIFFERENCE.
05:45:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM NOT SEEING THE DISTINCTION.
05:45:59PM GIVE ME THE DISTINCTION.
05:46:02PM IF I AM MR. MICHELINI.
05:46:04PM I DON'T SEE IT.
05:46:05PM IF I GO AHEAD AND I GO WITH MRS. WHICH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:46:12PM THE COMMUNITY -- I AM A COMMUNITY GUY AND I SAY I AM GOING
05:46:15PM TO SUPPORT THIS FOR THE CONTINUANCE.
05:46:17PM YOU ARE THE CITY ATTORNEY.
05:46:18PM SO NOW TELL ME -- AM I GOING TO BE PROTECTED IF THIS MAN
05:46:22PM SUES OR SUES THIS COUNCIL BECAUSE HE SAYS WE ARE UNFAIR.
05:46:25PM THAT IS WHAT I AM LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
05:46:27PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I UNDERSTAND.
05:46:30PM SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
05:46:33PM DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHAT ANYONE MIGHT DO AS A RESULT OF
05:46:37PM COUNCIL'S ACTIONS.
05:46:38PM FOR PURPOSES OF MISS FEELEY'S STATEMENTS, SHE WAS TRYING TO
05:46:41PM HELP COUNCIL IF YOU WERE STRUGGLING WITH THE DECISION WHAT
05:46:45PM TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
05:46:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
05:46:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHERE YOU STAND NOW, COUNCIL, IS THIS.
05:46:53PM YOU HAVE A 3-3 VOTE.
05:46:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO THE 15th OF DECEMBER.
05:46:57PM THE DAY SESSION OR EVENING SESSION.
05:47:00PM AND THEN I TURN TO MISS COYLE AND SAY, MISS COYLE, DO YOU
05:47:04PM UNDERSTAND WHAT JUST HAPPENED?
05:47:08PM >> YES, CATHERINE COYLE FOR THE RECORD.
05:47:10PM I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING, YES.
05:47:12PM FOR REFERENCE, THE CODE SECTION 27-153.
05:47:23PM THAT GIVES THE TIME FRAME THAT A CASE NEEDS TO GET IN AND
05:47:25PM OUT BEFORE COUNCIL FINDS AN EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE UNDER
05:47:31PM CODE OF DISTINCTION BETWEEN OURS AND THEIRS.
05:47:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:47:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 180 DAYS, THAT WAS PUT IN SO THAT ONCE
05:47:40PM YOU HAD THE SECOND ONE, TO MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE YOU CAME
05:47:43PM FOR THE THIRD ONE, YOU KNEW THAT IF YOU DIDN'T WORK AND
05:47:47PM PRESENT THE CASE, YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT 180 DAYS
05:47:51PM BEFORE YOU REAPPLY.
05:47:52PM THAT IS WHAT I THINK I REMEMBER.
05:47:55PM >> IF I CAN RESPOND TO THE 180-DAY DISCUSSION.
05:48:00PM THAT IS ALSO A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT.
05:48:03PM SO THAT -- I WOULDN'T SUGGEST THAT IT IS IN OUR CODE AS A
05:48:06PM RESULT OF A RULE THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, WHICH
05:48:08PM ALLOWS TWO CONTINUANCES BY RIGHT.
05:48:10PM I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT RULE.
05:48:12PM I DON'T BELIEVE THAT RULE HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN COUNCIL'S
05:48:17PM RULES OF PROCEDURE.
05:48:19PM I AM NOT AWARE THAT IT IS IN THE CODE.
05:48:21PM I HAVE NOT SEEN IT.
05:48:22PM BUT THE 180-DAY REQUIREMENT IS THAT FOR ITEMS THAT REQUIRE A
05:48:27PM QUASI JUDICIAL APPROVAL, THEY MUST BE HEARD WITHIN 180 DAYS
05:48:31PM OF THE APPLICATION BEING DEEMED COMPLETE UNLESS THE PARTIES
05:48:35PM AGREE UNDER EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES TO EXTEND THAT OUT.
05:48:38PM BUT THAT -- THAT 180-DAY DEADLINE COMMENCED WITH THE FLORIDA
05:48:44PM STATUTES BEING AMENDED TO REQUIRE THAT.
05:48:47PM >> JUST TO ADD WHAT CATE IS SAYING, ABBYE FEELEY.
05:48:54PM THAT INCLUDES CASES THAT NEVER GET SET BEFORE YOU.
05:48:57PM THAT ALLOWS US ON OUR SIDE BEFORE IT GETS INTO YOUR ARENA,
05:49:01PM IF THE CASE HAS BEEN SITTING OUT THERE FOREVER AND THEY
05:49:04PM CAN'T GET THEIR STUFF TOGETHER TO BE COMPLETE OR TO BE ABLE
05:49:07PM TO BE SET BEFORE YOU, THAT ALLOWS US ADMINISTRATIVELY TO
05:49:11PM MOVE THEM ALONG AND WITHDRAW THEM.
05:49:14PM IT OCCURS IN TWO REALMS.
05:49:16PM IT OCCURS ON OUR SIDE OF HOUSE AND YOUR SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
05:49:19PM ONCE IT ARE VENTURES IN YOUR SIDES, IN YOUR TERMS, ONCE IT
05:49:24PM COMES FOR A CONTINUANCE AND THEY WILL SURPASS THE 180, THEY
05:49:27PM HAVE TO SHOW YOU THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES AS TO WHY
05:49:31PM THEY NEED THAT.
05:49:31PM THAT IS IN THE CODE.
05:49:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY, WE ARE AT A 3-3 TIE.
05:49:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, RULE 6-H.
05:49:42PM IF A -- IF A MOTION IN A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER FAILS TO
05:49:47PM RECEIVE FOUR VOTES, THE MOTION FAILS.
05:49:49PM IF ANOTHER MOTION IN ORDER IS NOT MADE, THE PUBLIC HEARING
05:49:53PM SHALL BE AUTOMATICALLY REOPENED AND CONTINUED TO A TIME
05:49:56PM CERTAIN AT THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING.
05:49:59PM AND THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING UNLESS THE
05:50:03PM MOTION CHANGES IT WOULD BE THE DAY MEANING OF THE 15th.
05:50:07PM SOME THAT IS WHAT THE RULE PRESENTLY STATES.
05:50:11PM SO IS THERE ANOTHER -- I AM SORRY.
05:50:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DO APOLOGIZE.
05:50:17PM THAT MEANS THIS CASE WILL BE HEARD FIRST AGENDA ITEM ON THE
05:50:22PM 15th.
05:50:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SHE WILL NOT NECESSARILY DEPENDING THE MOTION
05:50:28PM THAT IS MADE.
05:50:28PM IF THERE IS A MOTION TO SET IT TO A SPECIFIC DATE OR TIME
05:50:31PM CERTAIN, THEN IT CAN DO IT AND THE MOTION IS IN ORDER.
05:50:37PM IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE HEARD -- IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE
05:50:41PM TO BE HEARD.
05:50:42PM AND THERE WAS ANOTHER MOTION THAT WAS MADE.
05:50:44PM SO IT COULD BE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER OR A NEW MOTION,
05:50:48PM HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT.
05:50:49PM WHAT DOES COUNCIL WISH TO ACCOMPLISH.
05:50:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:50:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I WOULD LIKE TO
05:50:56PM MAKE A MOTION, AGAIN, TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM -- AS
05:50:58PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MENTIONED, THE PUBLIC IS AWARE, THE
05:51:02PM NEIGHBORS ARE AWARE THAT THIS MAY NOT BE HEARD TONIGHT.
05:51:05PM I THINK MR. SEAL MAY BE THE ONLY PERSON HERE.
05:51:08PM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE OTHERS.
05:51:10PM BUT THEY WERE MADE AWARE OF THIS.
05:51:12PM AND IT WOULDN'T BE FAIR, IN MY OPINION, TO HEAR THIS CASE
05:51:15PM TONIGHT WITH SO MANY PEOPLE AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
05:51:19PM THINKING IT WILL BE CONTINUED AND THEM NOT BEING HERE
05:51:24PM TONIGHT.
05:51:24PM MY MOTION IS TO CONTINUE THE ITEM AND THE ONLY LOGICAL AND
05:51:28PM FAIR THING TO DO.
05:51:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WANT TO ASK THE PETITIONER A DATE FOR
05:51:32PM THAT PURPOSE?
05:51:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A DATE?
05:51:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO MAKE IT PART OF WHY YOU ARE MOTION.
05:51:36PM >> CATHERINE COYLE FOR THE RECORD, IT WOULD BE MARCH 23,
05:51:40PM 2023, 5:01.
05:51:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 23,2023 AT 5:01 P.M. AND THAT IS MY
05:51:50PM MOTION.
05:51:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO PART OF YOUR MOTION THE THIRD
05:51:53PM CONTINUANCE THAT WILL BE THE FINAL CONTINUANCE PART OF YOUR
05:51:56PM MOTION AS WELL?
05:51:57PM WE MAY HAVE A RULE --
05:51:59PM >> WE ARE FINE WITH THAT STICKLATION.
05:52:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A FINAL CONTINUANCE.
05:52:02PM THERE WILL BE NO CONTINUANCES MARCH 23.
05:52:06PM THIS IS IT.
05:52:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO
05:52:13PM ADDS?
05:52:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ASK STAFF.
05:52:16PM WHERE IS MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ OR MISS FEELEY.
05:52:21PM RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN 180 -- WILL MARCH 23 BE IN THE 180 DAYS.
05:52:28PM >> MARCH 23 WILL BE BEYOND THE 180 DAYS.
05:52:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY VOTE WILL STILL BE NO.
05:52:32PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I THINK FEBRUARY 23 WILL BE THE ONE BEFORE
05:52:37PM THAT.
05:52:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:52:41PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
05:52:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN AND THIS IS FOR
05:52:51PM STAFF.
05:52:52PM PART OF THE MOTION IS A REQUEST -- AN ACTION FROM COUNCIL OR
05:52:58PM REQUEST OF THE PETITIONER OR APPLICANT THAT THE WAIVER OF
05:53:00PM THE 180 DAYS IS PART OF THAT MOTION.
05:53:03PM IS THAT -- IS THAT CONTAINED WITHIN THE MOTION.
05:53:06PM IS THAT REQUIRED TO BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE MOTION?
05:53:10PM IT IS?
05:53:11PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY.
05:53:12PM YES, IF THEY ARE ASKING FOR A DATE BEYOND THE 180, THEY
05:53:15PM WOULD NEED TO TELL YOU THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES IN
05:53:19PM GRANTING THAT.
05:53:20PM SHELBY SHE WILL I BELIEVE MISS COYLE DID HAVE SOME.
05:53:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: DIDN'T HAVE A SECOND.
05:53:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION JUST DIED.
05:53:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
05:53:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:53:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAD A 3-3.
05:53:36PM THIS DIDN'T GO EITHER WAY AND MOVES TO THE 15th.
05:53:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNLESS THERE IS ANOTHER MOTION.
05:53:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVES TO THE 15.
05:53:42PM THIS WILL APPEAR ON THE SCHEDULE FOR DECEMBER 15 MORNING
05:53:56PM FIRST AGENDA ITEM.
05:53:57PM >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK IF THE MOTION DOESN'T
05:54:03PM PASS AND WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE HEARING, THE PUBLIC HAS TO
05:54:07PM UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.
05:54:08PM THEY ARE NOT USED TO COMING IN THE MORNING FOR AN ALCOHOL
05:54:11PM CASE.
05:54:12PM JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.
05:54:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES THE -- EXCUSE ME FOR JUST A MINUTE
05:54:21PM OPINION.
05:54:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: QUICKLY, MR. SHELBY.
05:54:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IF
05:54:31PM THIS IS A FIRST READING, DOES NOT PER THE CODE, THE FIRST
05:54:34PM READING HAVE TO TAKE PLACE IN THE EVENING?
05:54:44PM -- PARDON?
05:54:46PM I JUST WANT TO BE --
05:54:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT ONE OF THE MEETINGS
05:54:56PM HAVE TO BE AT NIGHT FOR CHAPTER 27?
05:55:00PM >> CORRECT.
05:55:00PM IT IS TYPICALLY BEFORE YOU DO FIRST READING, SO --
05:55:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE UNDER YOUR RULES
05:55:07PM YOU COULD MAKE THIS FOR THE NIGHT MEETING AS WELL ON THE
05:55:10PM 15th AS OPPOSED TO THE DAY MEETING?
05:55:13PM THAT MOTION COULD BE IN ORDER IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
05:55:16PM ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO -- OR -- NO, LET ME JUST
05:55:21PM LEAVE IT THERE.
05:55:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DEMOCRACY AT WORK.
05:55:32PM THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
05:55:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THIS BE HEARD
05:55:42PM ON THE 15th, THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM ON THE EVENING SESSION.
05:55:47PM >> SECOND.
05:55:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO AND
05:55:51PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:55:52PM YES?
05:56:00PM YES, MA'AM?
05:56:02PM >> THE CASE IS BEING HEARD ON THE 15th OR THE 3-3 VOTE.
05:56:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE CASE.
05:56:08PM >> DON'T YOU HAVE TO RESOLVE THE 3-3 VOTE?
05:56:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ALREADY HAD A TIE ON BOTH.
05:56:14PM >> SO THAT CARRIES FORWARD.
05:56:17PM THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT CARRYING TO THE 15TH DURING THE
05:56:20PM DAY, CORRECT?
05:56:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, BUT THAT WAS --
05:56:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BUT --
05:56:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT SHE IS SAYING WHEN IT COMES BACK ON
05:56:29PM THURSDAY NIGHT, SHE CAN ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE AGAIN AND HAVE
05:56:33PM SEVEN PEOPLE -- NO?
05:56:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, WE JUST HEAR THE CASE ON THE 15TH.
05:56:39PM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
05:56:40PM A MOTION FROM CHARM CITRO AND SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN
05:56:44PM HURTAK.
05:56:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MAY I
05:56:48PM MAKE -- RATHER THAN HAVE A CASE MEANT TO BE HEARD IN THE
05:56:52PM EVENING AND A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING SCHEDULED FOR --
05:56:55PM >> THE DAY BEFORE ON THE 14th.
05:57:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON BASIS WHAT YOU HEARD FROM STAFF AND THE
05:57:04PM COUNCIL DISCUSSION THAT YOU CHOOSE A DATE AND TIME AND IF
05:57:07PM YOU FIND IT IS WITHIN THE 180 DAYS -- EXCUSE ME, PAST THE
05:57:13PM 180 DAYS, THAT THAT BE AS A WAIVER.
05:57:17PM I CANNOT SEE HOW THIS CASE CAN BE PROPERLY HEARD.
05:57:22PM THIS MOTION REALLY, FRANKLY, UNDER RULE 6-H.
05:57:27PM AND WE HAVE TO HASH THIS OUT BECAUSE THIS MOTION IS REALLY
05:57:30PM NOT INTENDED TO BE ABLE TO RESET A WHOLE HEARING AND PUT IT
05:57:36PM DURING A DAY MEETING, A HEARING ESPECIALLY SUCH AS THIS.
05:57:40PM MY RECOMMENDATION, COUNCIL, TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER
05:57:44PM TO A DATE AND TIME ON THE BASIS OF THE FACT THAT STAFF'S
05:57:49PM DISTINCTION BETWEEN THIS CASE AND THE PREVIOUS CASE, I
05:57:52PM BELIEVE, THEY ARE DISTINGUISHABLE ON SEVERAL ACCOUNTS.
05:57:55PM AND EITHER WAY, EITHER WAY, I BELIEVE, DUE PROCESS IS ABLE
05:58:00PM TO BE AFFORDED AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE THEIR
05:58:03PM CASE.
05:58:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION.
05:58:05PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:58:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD JANUARY 12 IN THE EVENING SESSION
05:58:10PM FALL WITHIN THE 180 DAYS?
05:58:16PM >> THE OTHER THING TOO, WE WENT TO THE END OF MARCH AS MISS
05:58:18PM FEELEY MENTIONED, THERE WAS A FIRM RULE, I GUESS, STARTING
05:58:21PM IN 2023 THAT ALCOHOL WAS ONLY THE SECOND MEETING.
05:58:26PM THAT IS WHY WE WERE SUGGESTING THE SECOND MEETING.
05:58:29PM WE CAN DO FEBRUARY -- JANUARY WILL BE TOO SOON ONLY BECAUSE
05:58:34PM WE ARE STRIVING TO HOLD ADDITIONAL MEETINGS AND GET AWAY
05:58:38PM FROM THE HOLIDAYS.
05:58:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW ABOUT FEBRUARY 9, DOES THAT FALL
05:58:41PM WITHIN THE 180 DAYS.
05:58:42PM >> I CAN'T ANSWER WHETHER THAT WAS AND REZONING AND NOT
05:58:46PM ALCOHOL.
05:58:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT HAS TO BE 23rd.
05:58:51PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: FEBRUARY 23 WAS THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE NIGHT
05:58:54PM FOR FEBRUARY.
05:58:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FALLS WITHIN THE 180 DAYS?
05:58:57PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I AM GOING TO HAVE TO CHECK THAT FOR YOU.
05:58:59PM BUT YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO WAIVE THAT 180.
05:59:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE
05:59:04PM CONTINUE THIS FOR FEBRUARY 23 AT 5:01 P.M. THAT IS THE
05:59:10PM MOTION.
05:59:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:59:13PM MR. SHELBY.
05:59:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
05:59:19PM MY LAST TIME INTERRUPTING.
05:59:21PM THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING RECOGNIZED, MR.
05:59:23PM CHAIRMAN.
05:59:24PM THAT WILL INCLUDE THE WAIVER OF THE 180 DAYS AND --
05:59:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK IT FALLS WITHIN THE 180 DAYS.
05:59:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THIS WILL BE THE THIRD CONTINUANCE.
05:59:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE THIRD AND FINAL CONTINUANCE.
05:59:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
05:59:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FINAL CONTINUANCE.
05:59:37PM FINAL CONTINUANCE.
05:59:39PM FEBRUARY 23 AT 5:01 P.M.
05:59:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
05:59:45PM MANISCALCO.
05:59:45PM IS THERE A SECOND?
05:59:56PM THAT MOTION FAILS.
05:59:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, I GIVE UP.
05:59:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME, FAILED TO BE SECONDED.
06:00:02PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:00:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THOUGHT I HEARD EVIDENCE TODAY THEY
06:00:06PM WERE SO CLOSE WORKING TOGETHER THE GREAT LEADER OF THE
06:00:09PM NEIGHBORHOOD CAME UP THEY WERE VERY CLOSE AND THAT -- I AM
06:00:12PM NOT TRYING TO PUT WORDS IN EVERYBODY'S MOUTH BUT I THINK
06:00:15PM THAT IS WHAT I HEARD.
06:00:16PM SO WHY IS IT THAT WE GOT TO GO SO FAR DOWN WHEN WE ARE SO
06:00:20PM CLOSE.
06:00:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS COYLE, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING TO
06:00:30PM THAT?
06:00:33PM >> MISS COYLE -- CATHERINE COYLE FOR THE RECORD, AGAIN, WHAT
06:00:36PM WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE IS THE HOLIDAY SEASON.
06:00:38PM PEOPLE TEND TO GO OUT OF TOWN.
06:00:40PM WE WERE TOO IG TO HOLD ANOTHER MEETING BEYOND THE ONE NEXT
06:00:43PM WEEK TOWARD THE END OF JANUARY AND THEN THE BEGINNING OF
06:00:46PM FEBRUARY, WE ALSO WANT TO ATTEND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS
06:00:49PM AS WELL, THE MONTHLY MEETINGS.
06:00:51PM THAT IS WHY WE WERE ASKING FOR MARCH HONESTLY TO GET ENOUGH
06:00:55PM TIME TO MAKE SURE WE GOT TO EACH GROUP.
06:00:57PM THAT IS, AGAIN, WHY THEY ARE NOT HERE IN DROVES.
06:01:00PM BECAUSE WE HAD -- WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM.
06:01:02PM JUST TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD, THE STAFF REPORT FINDS US
06:01:06PM CONSISTENT.
06:01:06PM WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC.
06:01:08PM WE ARE NOT WORKING AGAINST STAFF OR ANY INCONSISTENCIES.
06:01:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS COYLE.
06:01:16PM MR. SHELBY, YOU WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED AGAIN.
06:01:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST THAT IF COUNCIL DOES GO FORWARD WITH
06:01:24PM THIS HEARING TONIGHT, THEN JUST A REMINDER THAT IF IT DOES
06:01:29PM GO FORWARD, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND THE PUBLIC DOES HAVE
06:01:32PM AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROFFER EVIDENCE AT A SECOND HEARING DOWN
06:01:37PM THE ROAD.
06:01:37PM THE DOWNSIDE TO THAT IF IT DOESN'T GO FORWARD, THERE IS NO
06:01:42PM SECOND BITE OF THE APPLE FOR THE PETITIONER IN THIS CASE.
06:01:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
06:01:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 3-3.
06:01:55PM THERE IS NO PLEASURE.
06:01:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAS TO BE HEARD NEXT MEETING.
06:02:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE AN ACTION IF IT IS 3-3.
06:02:05PM IT JUST ROLLS --
06:02:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF ANOTHER MOTION IN ORDER IS NOT MADE, THE
06:02:09PM PUBLIC HEARING -- THIS IS WHAT YOU RULE -- UNLESS YOU MOVE
06:02:12PM TO WAIVE THE RULES AND A SUPERMAJORITY CAN WAIVE THE RULES,
06:02:17PM A MOTION FAILS TO RECEIVE FOUR VOTES, THE VOTE FAILS.
06:02:22PM IF ANOTHER MOTION IS NOT MADE, WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY
06:02:25PM REOPENED AND CONTEMPLATE AFTER THE HEARING AND SOMEBODY
06:02:29PM READING THE TITLE TO BE CONTINUED TO A TIME CERTAIN FOR THE
06:02:32PM NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING AND THAT IS THE
06:02:37PM RULE --
06:02:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHICH IS THE 15th.
06:02:39PM THE FIRST -- MR. SHELBY?
06:02:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT IS THE CASE, COUNCIL.
06:02:51PM ALL WE HAVE TO DO THEN IS ANNOUNCE WHEN THIS IS GOING TO BE
06:02:55PM HEARD, SIR.
06:02:56PM AND THIS WILL BE IT.
06:02:57PM THAT WILL BE THE DECISION.
06:02:59PM BUT THAT WILL BE THE -- THE VOTE WILL BE IN FRONT OF YOU
06:03:03PM WHETHER TO CONTINUE OR NOT.
06:03:05PM BECAUSE THAT WAS THE MOTION THAT FAILED 3-3.
06:03:07PM IS THAT CORRECT?
06:03:09PM MADAM CLERK?
06:03:12PM >>CLERK: YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
06:03:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS, IT WILL EITHER BE
06:03:17PM CONTINUED OR WILL BE HEARD.
06:03:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN, I HAD SUGGESTED ON THE 15TH EITHER IN
06:03:22PM THE MORNING FOR AT NIGHT.
06:03:24PM AND WE WENT ROUND AND ROUND AGAIN.
06:03:26PM WHICH IS IT GOING TO BE?
06:03:27PM THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM IN THE MORNING SESSION OR THE EVENING
06:03:30PM SESSION ON DECEMBER 15?
06:03:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EVENING SESSION TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY
06:03:35PM AS IT IS ALREADY AN EVENING SESSION.
06:03:37PM 5:01 P.M. FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 15th.
06:03:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:03:45PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:03:46PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:03:47PM ANY OPPOSED.
06:03:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DID IT.
06:03:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:03:52PM MR. HUSSEIN.
06:03:55PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:04:00PM NEXT ITEM ASKING -- REQUESTING A REQUEST CONTINUANCE AGENDA
06:04:04PM ITEM NUMBER TEN.
06:04:05PM FILE NO. REZ-22-65.
06:04:07PM THEY ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 9, 2023.
06:04:11PM THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
06:04:12PM >> A HOT POTATO UP HERE THIS EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:04:21PM NUMBER 10, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
06:04:24PM ASSOCIATION AND ALSO WITH STAFF.
06:04:26PM WE NEED TIME TO REVISE THE SITE PLANS.
06:04:28PM AND THE ISSUE BASICALLY IS THAT YOU HAVE HOLIDAYS AS OTHERS
06:04:34PM HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT.
06:04:36PM THE FIRST DATE AVAILABLE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US BY COUNSEL
06:04:41PM COUNCIL WAS FEBRUARY.
06:04:42PM WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU CONTINUE IT UNTIL THEN.
06:04:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAS THIS BEEN ASKED TO CONTINUE BEFORE?
06:04:50PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: NO, SIR, FIRST REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE.
06:04:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HALLELUJAH.
06:04:55PM [LAUGHTER]
06:04:58PM YES IT WAS, FEBRUARY 9, 2023.
06:05:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE TO CONTINUE.
06:05:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
06:05:05PM TO THE CONTINUANCE ONLY FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, FILE NO.
06:05:11PM REZ-22-65.
06:05:11PM ANYONE?
06:05:18PM IS THERE -- MR. SEAL, ARE YOU COMING UP TO SAY ANYTHING
06:05:21PM ABOUT THE CONTINUANCE ONLY.
06:05:22PM >> YES, SIR.
06:05:23PM BRIAN SEAL.
06:05:25PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
06:05:26PM PRESIDENT OF TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
06:05:30PM I PERSONALLY SUPPORT THE DECISION.
06:05:32PM THE BOARD HAS NOT TAKEN A VOTE, WHEN I LEARNED OF IT I
06:05:35PM SUPPORTED THE CONTINUANCE AS LONG AS THE APPLICANT IS
06:05:38PM WILLING TO CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:05:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:05:41PM ANYBODY ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
06:05:43PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
06:05:45PM >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
06:05:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:05:49PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO CONTINUE AGENDA ITEM
06:05:53PM NUMBER 10, FILE NO. REZ-22-65 TO FEBRUARY 9, 2023.
06:05:58PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:06:00PM ANY OPPOSED?
06:06:03PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
06:06:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:06:06PM MR. HUSSEIN.
06:06:07PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:06:10PM NEXT ITEM FOR CONTINUANCE IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13, FILE NO.
06:06:17PM REZ-22-110.
06:06:17PM TO CONTINUE THIS CASE FOR JANUARY 12, 2023.
06:06:21PM AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
06:06:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. HUDSON.
06:06:25PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:06:26PM 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
06:06:28PM OUR FIRST.
06:06:28PM IT WILL BE OUR LAST CONTINUANCE REQUEST TO JANUARY 12, 2023.
06:06:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAVE IS YOU ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE BEFORE.
06:06:36PM >> NO, SIR.
06:06:36PM OUR FIRST AND WILL BE OUR LAST.
06:06:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:06:40PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:06:42PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:06:44PM I WILL DO THAT IN ONE SECOND.
06:06:48PM ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE
06:06:51PM CONTINUANCE ONLY ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13, THEIR THEIR.
06:06:56PM SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
06:07:03PM >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
06:07:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:07:07PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
06:07:08PM ANY OPPOSED?
06:07:11PM THANK YOU.
06:07:11PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO CLEAR.
06:07:17PM TWO MISNOTICES THAT CAN THE NOT BE HEARD.
06:07:20PM ITEM NUMBER 16 ON THE AGENDA, CASE REZ-22-102.
06:07:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REMOVE.
06:07:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:07:32PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:07:33PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:07:35PM ANY OPPOSED.
06:07:36PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: NEXT ITEM THAT CANNOT BE HEARD YOU TOO TO
06:07:40PM MISNOTICE, 17, REZ-22-111.
06:07:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REMOVE.
06:07:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
06:07:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:07:52PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
06:07:57PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: NOW THE APPLICANT TYLER HUDSON IS ASKING FOR
06:08:00PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14, FILE NO.. REZ-22-115 TO BE HEARD WITH
06:08:05PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE AGENDA DUE TO BEING RELATED
06:08:10PM PROJECTS.
06:08:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
06:08:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION.
06:08:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
06:08:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
06:08:21PM ANY OPPOSED?
06:08:22PM THANK YOU.
06:08:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR CLARIFICATION TO MOVE UP ITEM 16 --
06:08:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE UP ITEM 14 TO 4.
06:08:32PM TO BE HEARD AFTER 4.
06:08:34PM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: CORRECT.
06:08:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW, COUNCIL, I ALSO HAVE A MEMO SENT TO ME
06:08:39PM FROM MISS FEELEY ASKING THAT WE HEAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2
06:08:43PM FIRST.
06:08:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
06:08:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
06:08:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:08:52PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:08:55PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:08:56PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
06:09:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT ABOUT FIVE OR SIX.
06:09:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MICHELINI, HAVE YOU CONFERRED WITH YOUR
06:09:12PM CLIENT ON AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER FIVE AND SIX?
06:09:21PM >> I AM WAITING FOR A REPLY.
06:09:22PM I TEXTED THEM BUT I DON'T HAVE IT YET.
06:09:26PM JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSE WITH
06:09:30PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND OTHERS CONTINUALLY.
06:09:32PM WE HAVEN'T IGNORED THEM THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
06:09:35PM I AM WAITING FOR A REPLY VIA TEXT.
06:09:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:09:41PM LET US HEAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE.
06:09:44PM >>KAYON HENDERSON: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:09:51PM KAYON HENDERSON, MANAGEMENT DIVISION.
06:09:56PM A POWERPOINT WAITING FOR THAT TO PULL UP SO I CAN START.
06:09:59PM I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT OUR CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL
06:10:03PM PERFORMANCE EVOLUME SITUATION REPORT, ALSO KNOWN AS
06:10:07PM OUR CAPER.
06:10:07PM THIS GOES OVER OUR FEDERAL FUNDS WE RECEIVE ANNUALLY AND WE
06:10:11PM COME BEFORE YOU AND TALK OF OUR ACTION PLAN AND WHAT WE PLAN
06:10:14PM TO DO WITH THE FUND AND WE WANTED TO COME AT THE END TO SHOW
06:10:17PM YOU WHAT THEY HAVE DONE WITH THE FUNDS AND HOW MANY FAMILIES
06:10:20PM AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
06:10:23PM SO THE -- THE CAPEV DUE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EVERY
06:10:30PM DECEMBER.
06:10:30PM IT IS DUE DECEMBER 30.
06:10:32PM WE STARTED OUR PLANNING PROCESS IN ABOUT OCTOBER TO MAKE
06:10:34PM SURE WE GET THE REPORT 90 DAYS AFTER THE FISCAL YEAR ENDS
06:10:39PM IT DISCUSSES HOW BE MET THE GOALS.
06:10:42PM WE MET THE OBJECTIVES.
06:10:44PM WE PRETTY MUCH CALL IT OUR REPORT CARD FOR THE ACTUAL YEAR
06:10:48PM AND KIND OF GOES THROUGH AND SHOWS WHAT THE PERCENTAGES THAT
06:10:52PM WE FULLY MET.
06:10:53PM HOW MANY FAMILIES WE MET IN EACH CATEGORY AND WE WANT TO GO
06:10:57PM THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM TO SHOW YOU.
06:10:59PM THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF THE TIMELINE WHAT IT TAKES TO GET
06:11:02PM FROM THE PLANNING PHASE TO WHAT WE ACTUALLY SUBMIT TO H.U.D.
06:11:07PM WE GET FINAL REIMBURSEMENT PAYMENTS FROM THE SUB-RECIPIENTS.
06:11:12PM AT THAT POINT WE HAVE THE BENEFICIARIES WHAT WE SERVE FOR
06:11:15PM THE YEAR.
06:11:15PM WE UPDATE IDIS, THE SYSTEM THAT WE USE TO REPORT THE FEDERAL
06:11:21PM FUNDS WE RECEIVE.
06:11:22PM WE HAVE TO SUBMIT THE YEAR-END FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
06:11:24PM WE HAVE TO DRAFT THIS PLAN FOR THE PUBLIC REVIEW.
06:11:27PM ABOUT A 50-PAGE DOCUMENT.
06:11:31PM TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC HAS CHANCE TO REVIEW IT AND WHAT WE
06:11:34PM HAVE DONE FOR THE YEAR.
06:11:35PM WE SET THE PUBLIC HEARING.
06:11:36PM WE HAD THE PUBLIC -- THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR 15 DAYS
06:11:40PM WHICH STARTED DECEMBER 1 AND ENDS DECEMBER 15, SO WE ARE
06:11:44PM HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ANY COMMENTS WE RECEIVE
06:11:48PM WHETHER TODAY AND COULD BE WRITTEN.
06:11:50PM IT COULD BE MAILED IN OR CALLED TO US THAT HAPPENS TO BE
06:11:53PM PART OF THE ACTUAL REPORT THAT WE SUBMIT TO H.U.D.
06:11:58PM HERE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE RESOURCES AND INVESTMENTS
06:12:01PM THAT WE RECEIVED.
06:12:02PM SO WE HAD SOME CV FUNDS THAT WERE LEFT OVER THAT ARE IS IT I
06:12:07PM WILL IN THERE ABOUT $3.1 MILLION OF CDBG.
06:12:11PM $1.2 MILLION FOR THE CDBG-V DOLLARS.
06:12:16PM 2.7 MILLION FOR HOME, ALTHOUGH HOME IS NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR
06:12:20PM HOMELESSNESS BECAUSE THE ALLOCATION IS SO LITTLE FOR
06:12:23PM HOMELESS SERVICES.
06:12:25PM IT IS ABOUT $250,000 ANNUALLY AND 600 OF OUR HOME FUNDS TO
06:12:31PM GO TO THE HOME LIST VOUCHER PROGRAM.
06:12:33PM WE HAVE OUR PROGRAM THAT GIVES US ABOUT $4 MILLION.
06:12:37PM OUR ESG PROGRAM, 375 AND THAT IS SOME FUNDS THAT WERE
06:12:44PM REPROGRAMMED FROM PRIOR YEAR BECAUSE WE HAD COVID FUNDS FROM
06:12:46PM OTHER YEAR AND GENERALLY FROM $250,000.
06:12:50PM SOME FUND WERE ROLLED OVER.
06:12:51PM ES GV.
06:12:55PM AND SPENT ALL TOGETHER $15 MILLION OF FEDERAL FUNDS TO
06:12:59PM ASSIST INDIVIDUALS.
06:13:00PM WE BROKE IT DOWN WHAT WE HAVE SEEN AND LITTLE BIT OF THE
06:13:04PM ACTIVITY AND SERVICES FOR HOMELESS ASSISTANCE AND BROKE IT
06:13:07PM DOWN BETWEEN SHELTER BEDS, WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR HOMELESS
06:13:10PM PREVENTION.
06:13:11PM ANYBODY WHO CAN JUMP IN BEFORE THEY BECAME HOMELESS, THEY
06:13:16PM CAN DO THAT.
06:13:17PM RAPID REHOUSING.
06:13:18PM WE ARE TALKING OF THE INDIVIDUALS LITERALLY ON THE STREETS
06:13:21PM AND WE NEED TO FIND THEM A SAFE PLACE TO CALL HOME.
06:13:23PM STREET OUTREACH WHICH IS 515 INDIVIDUALS THAT WE MET AND
06:13:28PM THAT STREET OUTREACH COULD HAVE BEEN DIVERSION THAT WE
06:13:32PM REUNITED THEM WITH FAMILY MEMBERS.
06:13:33PM AND THEN THE VOUCHER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
06:13:36PM SO ALTOGETHER WE TOUCHED 3,000 LIVES FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS
06:13:39PM WHO WERE HOMELESS.
06:13:41PM OUR HIV PROGRAM, HOUSING OPPORTUNITY FOR PERSONS WITH AIDS.
06:13:47PM THE LARGEST GRANT FUNDS WE RECEIVE AND WE HAVE TO ADMINISTER
06:13:51PM IT FOR FOUR COUNTIES: HILLSBOROUGH, PINELLAS, PASCO AND
06:13:56PM HERNANDO.
06:13:56PM IT IS BROKEN DOWN AND ASSISTED 1700 INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE
06:14:00PM AFFECTED OR INFECTED WITH HIV/AIDS.
06:14:05PM HOUSING ASSISTANCE.
06:14:07PM THIS JUST MEANS OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM.
06:14:10PM THIS COULD BE OUR DOWNPAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN ANY
06:14:13PM PUBLIC SERVICES WHERE WE HAVE JUMPED IN TO ASSIST.
06:14:16PM PUBLIC SERVICE COULD BE WHETHER WE ARE FUNDING AN AGENCY
06:14:19PM THAT DOES THE HOUSING COUNSELING OR HOUSING SEARCH.
06:14:22PM AND SO FOR THOSE, WE ASSISTED ABOUT 15 00 INDIVIDUALS.
06:14:27PM BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.
06:14:32PM BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE SOME COVID FUNDS, SOME CARES FUNDS,
06:14:37PM WITH WE WERE ABLE TO ASSIST SOME BUSINESSES, SMALL
06:14:39PM BUSINESSES, TO REALLY HELP THEM.
06:14:42PM WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS THAT THEY HAD A SIGNIFICANT LOSS
06:14:44PM DURING THE PANDEMIC OR THEY JUST NEEDED TO -- A BOOST TO
06:14:48PM HELP THEM GET BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE.
06:14:50PM SOME TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WITH THEM AND ASSISTED 238
06:14:54PM BUSINESSES AND THOSE WERE SOME MICRO ENTERPRISE LOANS AND
06:14:57PM GRANTS WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
06:15:00PM FOR OUR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN, IT DOES REQUIRE US TO
06:15:04PM COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
06:15:05PM CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING SO THAT WE CAN ACCEPT ANY COMMENTS,
06:15:09PM AGAIN.
06:15:09PM IT IS IN DRAFT FORM RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT SUBMITTED
06:15:12PM IT.
06:15:13PM WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS AS OF YET.
06:15:15PM WE DO PUBLISH IN THE NEWSPAPER.
06:15:19PM WE HAVE AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY IF
06:15:23PM SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
06:15:25PM THAT WE HAVE THOSE COPIES AVAILABLE TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE.
06:15:28PM IF SOMEONE DOES INDEED WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS, THEY CAN
06:15:32PM SUBMIT IT IN WRITING.
06:15:34PM THEY CAN SEND IT TO MY E-MAIL ADDRESS AT
06:15:42PM KAYON.HENDERSON@TAMPAGOV.NET OR MAIL IT WEST LEMON STREET,
06:15:47PM 33609.
06:15:48PM THOSE COMMENTS ARE DUE TO US BY DECEMBER 15 AT 5 P.M.
06:15:52PM I WENT FAST.
06:15:57PM ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
06:15:58PM ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO MAKE A COMMENT ON
06:16:02PM THIS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.
06:16:04PM HIS HENDERSON, YOU ARE GRADUATING THIS SATURDAY WITH A
06:16:10PM DEGREE.
06:16:11PM >>KAYON HENDERSON: I AM, YES.
06:16:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW MY QUESTION TO YOU IS --
06:16:16PM [APPLAUSE]
06:16:18PM NOW MY QUESTION TO YOU IS NOW THAT YOU HAVE A DEGREE IN
06:16:23PM HIGHER KNOWLEDGE, YOU ARE STILL STAYING WITH THE CITY OF
06:16:27PM TAMPA, AREN'T YOU?
06:16:28PM >> YES!
06:16:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:16:30PM >>KAYON HENDERSON: YES, I WILL STAY HERE.
06:16:32PM THANK YOU.
06:16:32PM THANK YOU.
06:16:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONGRATULATIONS.
06:16:36PM >>KAYON HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
06:16:37PM THAT'S IT.
06:16:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:16:41PM >> SECOND.
06:16:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:16:44PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:16:46PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:16:47PM THANK YOU, AGAIN.
06:16:48PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 WHICH IS FILE NUMBER FILE NO. E2022-8
06:16:57PM CH 27.
06:16:57PM 704.
06:17:04PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD EVENING, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE
06:17:06PM WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
06:17:07PM ITEM NUMBER 1 IS REGARDING THE -- ASSOCIATED WITH HPC 22-04.
06:17:14PM AN APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY THE HYDE PARK SPANISH TOWN CREEK
06:17:17PM AND HISTORIC HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
06:17:21PM FILED -- THEY FILED AN APPLICATION WITH THE STAFF OF THE
06:17:24PM HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN ORDER TO EXPAND THE BOUNDARIES OF
06:17:27PM THE HYDE PARK DISTRICT.
06:17:29PM THE HYDE PARK -- THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
06:17:33PM CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ON AUGUST 30, 2022 AND
06:17:39PM DETERMINED THAT THE APPLICATION MET THE CRITERIA OF CODE
06:17:43PM SELECTION 257 AND APPROVED A MOTION TO RECOMMEND CITY
06:17:48PM COUNCIL EXPAND THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT BOUNDARY AS
06:17:52PM PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANTS.
06:17:53PM I HAVE ALREADY PROVIDED A SAMPLE -- SAMPLE MOTION THAT
06:17:58PM INCLUDES CODE SECTION 27-257.
06:18:01PM CODE SECTION 27-257 IS THE CRITERIA FOR CITY COUNCIL TO USE
06:18:07PM IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHAT ACTION TO TAKE REGARDING THE
06:18:09PM APPLICANT'S REQUEST AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE
06:18:12PM HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
06:18:14PM MR. FERNANDEZ, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION MANAGER IS PRESENT
06:18:19PM TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THE -- THE BOARD --
06:18:22PM THE COMMISSION'S MOTION AND THE CRITERIA IN ORDER FOR CITY
06:18:27PM COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANTS.
06:18:29PM ALSO PRESENT IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO WILL ALSO
06:18:33PM PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THEIR REPORT
06:18:36PM REGARDING THE APPLICATION.
06:18:37PM AND -- OBVIOUSLY THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE FROM THE
06:18:42PM ASSOCIATIONS.
06:18:42PM AND THEY WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST.
06:18:44PM UPON HEARING ALL THE EVIDENCE, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE THE
06:18:49PM FOLLOWING ACTION: CITY COUNCIL CAN HELP THE HISTORIC
06:18:55PM PRESERVATION COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.
06:18:57PM CITY COUNCIL CAN MODIFY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
06:19:01PM COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION OR CAN REJECT THE HISTORIC
06:19:04PM PRESERVATION COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.
06:19:06PM AND, AGAIN, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WILL NOW
06:19:10PM TURN IT TO EVERY TO MR. FERNANDEZ FOR THE PRESENTATION.
06:19:12PM FOR STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
06:19:14PM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, DENNIS
06:19:23PM FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND PRESERVATION MANAGER.
06:19:26PM WE WILL GET OUR POWERPOINT ON.
06:19:35PM I WILL PRESENT WITH YOU A POWERPOINT TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND
06:19:39PM THE NATURE OF THE REQUEST AND THE AREA.
06:19:41PM FIRST OF ALL, AS WE BEGIN.
06:19:49PM I WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANTS, THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE
06:19:52PM VARIOUS ORGANIZATION THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS
06:19:55PM DISCUSSION.
06:19:55PM THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
06:19:57PM ACTUALLY BEFORE THE ACTUAL OFFICIAL SUBMISSION OF THE
06:20:03PM APPLICATIONS.
06:20:03PM AND SO WE DO APPRECIATE THEIR ENGAGEMENT EVEN THROUGH THE
06:20:07PM PROTRACTED PANDEMIC PERIOD.
06:20:09PM WE ARE HAVING A LITTLE TECHNICAL PROBLEM.
06:20:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I.T., DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE BACK THAT
06:20:33PM CAN HELP WITH THE SLIDES?
06:21:06PM HERE WE GO.
06:21:06PM I WILL FORGO THIS FIRST SLIDE BECAUSE I THINK CAMARIA
06:21:13PM COVERED MOST OF THIS.
06:21:15PM I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE BOUNDARIES OF THE
06:21:18PM EXISTING HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.
06:21:20PM YOU WILL SEE ON THE SCREENS THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
06:21:25PM COLORED LINES THAT INDICATE DIFFERENT BOUNDARIES WITHIN THE
06:21:28PM HISTORIC DISTRICT.
06:21:29PM THE BLUE LINE WHICH INDICATES THE NATURAL REGISTER BOUNDARY
06:21:33PM WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1985.
06:21:38PM AND THAT DOES INDICATE THE ORIGINAL HISTORIC DISTRICT
06:21:43PM BOUNDARY FOR HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:21:46PM THE RED LINE WHICH YOU SEE IS A MORE CONTRACTED BOUNDARY.
06:21:51PM IT REPRESENTS THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT ESTABLISHED BY
06:21:54PM ORDINANCE IN 1988.
06:21:56PM THE AREA WITHIN THAT LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT BOUNDARY IS THE
06:22:00PM SUBJECT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA PRESERVATION ORDINANCES AND IS
06:22:06PM UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
06:22:09PM COMMISSION.
06:22:09PM NATIONAL DESIGNATION EQUATES TO A DESIGNATION OF DISTINCTION
06:22:14PM AND RECOGNITION.
06:22:15PM IT DOES PROVIDE SOME PROTECTION FOR FEDERALLY FUNDED
06:22:18PM PROJECTS.
06:22:19PM PROBABLY THE ONE THAT IS THE MOST OBVIOUS IS INTERSTATE
06:22:22PM EXPANSION LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION UNDER THE PRESERVATION
06:22:29PM ORDINANCES PROVIDE FOR PROTECTION FROM DEMOLITION AND ALSO
06:22:33PM ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW THROUGH THE ASSIGNED ARCHITECTURAL
06:22:36PM REVIEW BOARD FOR THE CITY.
06:22:38PM A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT IS A SIGNIFICANT LINKAGE OF
06:22:45PM CONTINUITY OF SITES, BUILDING, STRUCTURES AND OBJECTS THAT
06:22:48PM ARE UNITED HISTORICALLY OR AESTHETICALLY OF PLAN OR
06:22:53PM DEVELOPMENT.
06:22:53PM A NEIGHBORHOOD WILL FALL INTO THAT PARTICULAR CATEGORY.
06:22:55PM WHAT THE DESIGNATION DOES IS BRINGS PROTECTION TO THE
06:22:59PM DISTRICT'S SIGNIFICANT PROPERTIES AND THE HISTORIC CHARACTER
06:23:02PM OF THE AREA WHILE IT ENCOURAGES SENSITIVE DEVELOPMENT
06:23:06PM THROUGHOUT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW PROCESS.
06:23:15PM WITHIN THE HYDE PARK LOCAL DISTRICT, THERE ARE 834
06:23:21PM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES OR STRUCTURES THAT ARE HISTORICALLY
06:23:24PM SIGNIFICANT.
06:23:24PM AND 433 NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES FOR A TOTAL OF 1267 TOTAL
06:23:32PM STRUCTURES.
06:23:33PM THAT IS ARE BUILDINGS THAT MAY BE MORE THAN ONE -- MIGHT BE
06:23:37PM AN APARTMENT BUILDING OR A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
06:23:40PM THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE FOR HYDE PARK IS BETWEEN 1886 AND
06:23:46PM 1933.
06:23:46PM SO STRUCTURES BUILT WITHIN THAT PERIOD COULD BE CONSIDERED
06:23:51PM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
06:23:53PM THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS OF OUTREACH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
06:24:04PM ASSOCIATION AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS, WE TALKED OF THE
06:24:07PM BENEFITS OF LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION AND INCLUDE AN
06:24:10PM ENHANCED RECOGNITION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S HISTORY AND THE
06:24:14PM IMPORTANCE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR CITY.
06:24:16PM THE EMPIRICAL STUDIES OF THE BENEFITS OF PROPERTY VALUES
06:24:22PM THAT HISTORIC DESIGNATION BRINGS ALONG WITH IT.
06:24:26PM THE ACCESS TO INCENTIVES THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE BECOME
06:24:30PM FAMILIAR WITH LIKE THE AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION THAT
06:24:33PM ENCOURAGES APPROPRIATE PRESERVATION APPROACHES.
06:24:38PM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW PROCESS WHICH IN ITSELF WAS A MORE
06:24:43PM CONTROVERSIAL COMPONENT OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW AND
06:24:46PM LOCAL DISTRICTS BUT DOES BRING THE ASSURANCE OF A THOROUGH
06:24:51PM REVIEW FOR HISTORIC RESOURCES AND DETERMINATION OF
06:24:55PM COMPATIBILITY FOR INFILL CONSTRUCTION.
06:24:56PM THEN I THINK ONE PARTICULAR COMPONENT THAT INTERESTS THIS
06:25:01PM PARTICULAR AREA OF HYDE PARK IS THE ENHANCED.PUBLIC
06:25:05PM PARTICIPATION WHICH PROVIDES AN EXTRA LAYER OF REVIEW FOR
06:25:09PM DEMOLITIONS AND INFILL CONSTRUCTION TO ENSURE THAT THE
06:25:13PM CHARACTER OF AN AREA IS BEING MAINTAINED.
06:25:15PM FOR THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, AS I SAID, THIS IS A VERY
06:25:18PM EXTENDED PERIOD OF OUTREACH AND CONSIDERATION.
06:25:21PM THE APPLICATIONS WERE RECEIVED IN MAY OF 2021 BY THE
06:25:27PM APPLICANTS WHICH ARE THE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT
06:25:30PM COMPOSE THE EXPANDED AREA THAT WE HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING.
06:25:34PM THAT IS THE HYDE PARK CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND HIS FOR HYDE
06:25:42PM PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
06:25:42PM A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAT STAFF ATTENDED AS
06:25:45PM WELL AS A NUMBER OF UPDATES AND PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT HAVE
06:25:48PM BEEN PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS SINCE THE EXCEPTION OF THE
06:25:52PM PROPOSAL.
06:25:52PM THAT DOES BRING US BACK THROUGH SECTION 256 WHICH DEFINES
06:25:58PM THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROCESS TO THE EVENING CONSIDERING
06:26:07PM CONSIDERATION.
06:26:07PM THIS IS A DESCRIPTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
06:26:10PM YOU SEE THAT BOTH THE HYDE PARK, SPANISH TOWN -- SPANISH
06:26:15PM TOWN CREEK CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND THE HISTORIC HYDE PARK
06:26:18PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ARE PART OF THE PROPOSED STUDY AREA
06:26:26PM ZOOMS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE AREA THAT WE LOOKED AT.
06:26:30PM WHEN THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED, STAFF BEGAN TO
06:26:35PM REINVENTORY THE AREA THAT IS SITUATED NORTH OF THE EXISTING
06:26:40PM LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT BOUNDARY LINE.
06:26:43PM THAT WOULD BE DE LEON TO SOUTH BOULEVARD UP TO
06:26:48PM PLATT AS IT EXTENDS TO THE EAST.
06:26:50PM SO THE AREA NORTH OF THAT INTO THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
06:26:55PM KENNEDY BOULEVARD IS WITHIN THE NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT
06:26:59PM AND FELT IT NECESSARY TO LOOK AT THAT ENTIRE AREA TO
06:27:03PM DETERMINE WHAT PORTION OF THAT MAY QUALIFY FOR INCLUSION IN
06:27:07PM THE DISTRICT.
06:27:08PM SEE THE 1929 SANBORN MAP AND 1931 SANBORN MAP WITH THE
06:27:15PM LOCAL DISTRICT IMPOSED OVER THE AREA.
06:27:19PM THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT TOOL FOR US THAT THE STAFF USES TO
06:27:21PM DETERMINE THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
06:27:23PM THIS ONE IS PARTICULARLY INTERESTING BECAUSE IT OBVIOUSLY
06:27:26PM PREDATES THE INTRODUCTION OF THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY.
06:27:30PM THE RED BOUNDARIES INDICATED FOR THE LOCAL DISTRICT AND THE
06:27:34PM BLUE FOR THE NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT.
06:27:36PM THE GREEN BOX IN THE CENTER IS ACTUALLY THE BOUNDARIES OF
06:27:42PM DOBIVILLE WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT IN MORE JUST A MOMENT.
06:27:52PM THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LAFAYETTE BRIDGE IN 1888 MADE THE
06:27:56PM AREA THE RIVER WEST OF TAMPA AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF HYDE
06:28:00PM PARK.
06:28:00PM THE A EVERY I CAN'T WAS NAMED.BY OH PLATT OF HYDE PARK,
06:28:04PM ILLINOIS OF PURCHASED 20 ACRES OF DEVELOPMENT.
06:28:08PM CITRUS GROVES COVERED MOST OF THE AREA WEST OF THE RIVER
06:28:11PM UNTIL BUILDING ITS FIRST SUBURB OF TAMPA PREVAILED.
06:28:16PM BY 1910, LARGE CITRUS GROVES, MANY OWNED BY WILLIAM A.
06:28:23PM MORRISON AND JAMES W. WATROUS ENCOMPASSING 100 ACRES SOUTH
06:28:30PM OF SWANN AVENUE RIPE FOR DEVELOPMENT.
06:28:32PM ALSO WITHIN OUR STUDY AREA IS A PORTION OF THE
06:28:38PM HISTORIC DOBEYVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:28:39PM NAMED FOR LONG-TIME RESIDENT RICHARD DOBY WAS NAMED WEST
06:28:46PM HYDE PARK.
06:28:46PM BY THE 1920s ONE OF TAMPA'S PRIMARILY AFRICAN-AMERICAN
06:28:52PM NEIGHBORHOODS BOUNDARIES FROM GRAY STREET ON THE NORTH TO
06:28:54PM HORATIO TO THE SOUTH, ALBANY AVENUE ON THE WEST AND WILLOW
06:28:59PM AVENUE IN THE EAST.
06:29:01PM EARLY 1900st MANY OF AFRICAN AMERICAN RESIDENTS WORKED IN
06:29:08PM THE HOMES OF WEALTHY PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE HYDE PARK
06:29:10PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND WEST SIDE OF THE AFFLUENT COMMUNITY, THEY
06:29:15PM BUILT A COMMUNITY OF THEIR OWN.
06:29:16PM WITH THE HELP OF RICHARD DOBY, ITS NAMESAKE.
06:29:20PM MR. DOBY COULD NOT READ OR WRITE AND HELPED PEN THE HISTORY
06:29:25PM OF DOBYVILLE AND TAMPA AND IN THE TURN OF THE CENTURY HE DONATED
06:29:31PM LAND FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES, CHURCHES AND A SCHOOL.
06:29:35PM DOBYVILLE SCHOOL IN 1910 AND LOCATED 307 NORTH DAKOTA BUT
06:29:44PM WAS DEMOLISHED UNFORTUNATELY.
06:29:45PM STRUCTURE IN THE UPPER RIGHT OF THE SLIDE IS THE HOME OF
06:29:51PM RICHARD DOBY.
06:29:53PM DIFFICULT TO TALK OF THE THIS AREA WITHOUT NOTING THE IMPACT
06:29:57PM OF THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY OF THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION.
06:30:01PM A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THE AREA WHERE THE CROSSTO UNWILL BE
06:30:05PM INTRODUCED IN 1957.
06:30:07PM WITHIN THE HYDE PARK DISTRICT, THIS SERVES AS SOMEWHAT OF A
06:30:13PM DEMARCATION LINE.
06:30:14PM A TRANSITION OF SLIDES BEGINNING IN 1975 AS THE DEVELOPMENT
06:30:21PM OF THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY BEGAN.
06:30:23PM THERE IS A NUMBER OF STRUCTURES UNFORTUNATELY THAT WERE LOST
06:30:28PM DURING THIS EXPANSION.
06:30:29PM AND THEN I OBVIOUSLY HAVE PHYSICAL BOUNDARY ISSUE WHICH WAS
06:30:36PM INTRODUCED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:30:38PM SEE 1980s AERIAL MAP AND THE SAME MANNER BASICALLY THAT IT
06:30:47PM APPEARS TODAY.
06:30:48PM WITHIN THE STUDY AREA, THERE IS A NUMBER OF ARCHITECTURAL
06:30:54PM STYLES THAT EXIST.
06:30:55PM WE HAVE CRAFTSMAN STRUCTURES, SPANISH ECLECTIC, FLOOD OF
06:31:01PM VERNACULARS AND VICTORIANS.
06:31:04PM THESE ARE EVIDENT THROUGH THE STUDY AREA IN HIGH QUALITY
06:31:10PM EXAMPLES.
06:31:10PM WHILE SOME OF THESE STRUCTURES ARE REPRESENTED WITHIN THE
06:31:15PM EXISTING COLLECTION OF HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED STRUCTURE OF
06:31:21PM THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.
06:31:23PM MANY ARE UNIQUE, PARTICULARLY IN THE DOBYVILLE SECTION OF
06:31:28PM THE PROPOSED EXPANSION AREA.
06:31:30PM THIS IS THE ORIGINAL 1985 STUDY MAP FOR THE CREATION OF THE
06:31:38PM NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC DISTRICT.
06:31:40PM AT THAT TIME WITHIN THE AREA THAT YOU SEE PROPOSED WITHIN
06:31:43PM THE BLUE LINE, THERE ARE 239 CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AND 103
06:31:48PM NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
06:31:49PM YOU CAN SEE THOSE NUMBERS CHANGE DRAMATICALLY AS WE GO
06:31:53PM THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.
06:31:54PM ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT THE STAFF HAS RECOGNIZED IS PROMOTED
06:32:01PM DEMOLITION WITHIN THE AREA IS AN INTENSITY OF ZONING
06:32:04PM CLASSIFICATIONS MANY OF WHICH ARE MULTIFAMILY CLASSIFICATION
06:32:09PM WHICH ARE ARE SITUATED BENEATH SINGLE-FAMILY-TYPE RESIDENCE.
06:32:17PM MOST WITHIN THE PERIOD OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE.
06:32:21PM AS A RESULT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DEMOLITIONS THAT EVEN
06:32:24PM SINCE WE STARTED THIS STUDY, YOU SEE SOME OF THE STRUCTURES
06:32:27PM THAT WERE DEMOLISHED WITHIN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AREA.
06:32:31PM BECAUSE THEY LACKED LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT PROTECTION.
06:32:35PM THESE ARE THE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT WE ARE SEEING INFILLED
06:32:41PM INTO THE AREA.
06:32:42PM SINGLE-FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY AND ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY AS
06:32:46PM WELL.
06:32:46PM FOCUSING IN ON THE AREA THAT WAS STUDIED, YOU SEE THE -- THE
06:32:57PM DIFFERENT COLORS THAT REPRESENT THE SEGMENTS THAT WERE
06:32:59PM LOOKED AT BY THE STAFF.
06:33:00PM THE GREEN AREA ABOVE THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY NORTH HAD BEEN
06:33:07PM SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED BY INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND DEMOLITION.
06:33:12PM THE NUMBERS OF CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES THERE ARE AT 40% WITH
06:33:17PM ONLY 23 STRUCTURES BEING CLASSIFIED AS CONTRIBUTING AND 34
06:33:21PM BEING NONCONTRIBUTING.
06:33:22PM THE PURPOSE AREA, WHICH IS EAST OF HYDE PARK AVENUE TOWARD
06:33:28PM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD ONLY HAD ONE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IN
06:33:31PM IT.
06:33:31PM SO THERE WAS A -- IN TRYING NO NOT TO OVERREACH FOR A
06:33:36PM PROPOSED AREA TO CONCENTRATE PRESERVATION EFFORTS IN, THE
06:33:40PM AREA WITHIN THE TAN WAS IDENTIFIED.
06:33:43PM THAT AREA HAS A 100 CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AND 112
06:33:49PM NONCONTRIBUTING.
06:33:50PM THAT DOES EQUATE TO 47% CONTRIBUTING STATUS.
06:33:54PM IT'S -- WORTHY TO NOTE THAT THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT EXTEND TO
06:34:00PM -- TO ESTABLISHING AN INDEPENDENT LOCAL DISTRICT BUT TO
06:34:04PM EXPANDING THE LOCAL DISTRICT BOUNDARIES TO ENCOMPASS THIS
06:34:07PM AREA UP TOWARD THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY.
06:34:10PM AS I SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, THE LOCAL
06:34:16PM HISTORIC DISTRICT DOES HAVE 834 CONTRIBUTING AND 433
06:34:22PM NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
06:34:23PM THAT CALCULATION EQUALS A 66% CONTRIBUTING PERCENTAGE, WHICH
06:34:29PM IS A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF INTEGRITY FOR A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
06:34:33PM NORMALLY HISTORIC DISTRICTS STRIVE DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF
06:34:38PM DISTRICT THAT IT IS BETWEEN 50 AND 55%.
06:34:42PM PROPOSED ADDITION OF THE AREA YOU ARE SEEING WITHIN THAT TAN
06:34:45PM MAP THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU ADDS 100 CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES
06:34:49PM AND 112 NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
06:34:52PM IN AND OF ITSELF, 47% CONTRIBUTING PERCENTAGE BUT WHEN YOU
06:34:58PM COMBINE WITH THE EXISTING INVENTORY, IT -- IT RESULTS IN A
06:35:02PM 63% OVERALL INTEGRITY, WHICH IS STILL HIGHLY RESPECTED
06:35:07PM WITHIN THE PRESERVATION PARAMETERS.
06:35:11PM ON AUGUST 30, 2022, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
06:35:19PM RECOMMENDED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE LOCAL HISTORIC
06:35:24PM DISTRICT EXPANSION OF HYDE PARK THAT THE PROPOSED
06:35:29PM APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION
06:35:33PM ESTABLISHED IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES 27-257.
06:35:36PM HYDE PARK IS SIGNIFICANT AS THE OLDEST AND BEST PRESERVED OF
06:35:40PM TAMPA'S EARLY NEIGHBORHOODS WITH STRUCTURES DATING BACK FROM
06:35:43PM THE LATE 1800s.
06:35:45PM THE HOUSES IN HYDE PARK ARE REPRESENTED OF VARIOUS
06:35:49PM ARCHITECTURAL STYLES FAVORED BY AMERICANS PRIOR TO WORLD WAR
06:35:54PM II.
06:35:54PM THE AREA INCLUDED IN THE EXPANDED DISTRICT FEATURE A
06:35:57PM GREATER REPRESENTATION OF THE VARIETY OF THE BUILDINGS THAT
06:36:02PM CONTRIBUTE TO THE BUILD HISTORY OF HYDE PARK.
06:36:04PM THESE STRUCTURES REPRESENT A PREVIOUSLY UNDERREPRESENTED
06:36:07PM PORTION OF HYDE PARK'S BUILT HISTORY, PARTICULARLY AS
06:36:11PM CONTRASTED WITH SOME OF THE GRANDER HOMES THAT ARE COMMONLY
06:36:14PM ASSOCIATED WITH THE EARLY TAMPA SUBURB.
06:36:16PM STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THIS EVENING IS THE CITY COUNCIL
06:36:21PM APPROVE THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT EXPANSION BOUNDARY AS
06:36:25PM PRESENTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 27-257 AND 27-257-B FOR
06:36:33PM LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION UNDER CRITERIA 1, 2 AND 3 AND
06:36:39PM AREA OF SIGNIFICANCE AS ONE OF THE EARLY PIONEERING
06:36:42PM NEIGHBORHOODS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH ITS ASSOCIATION OF
06:36:45PM SIGNIFICANT PERSONS IN OUR PAST.
06:36:48PM SOME OF THOSE BUILDING O.H. PLATT, WILLIAM A. MORRISON,
06:36:53PM JAMES WATROUS, KATE JACKSON AND RICHARD DOBY.
06:36:57PM AND ALSO FOR ITS ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY WHICH I HAVE SPENT
06:37:01PM SOME TIME REVIEWING FOR YOU THIS EVENING.
06:37:04PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
06:37:07PM AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
06:37:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:37:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:37:12PM FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
06:37:15PM I KNOW WE RECEIVED A LOT OF E-MAILS.
06:37:18PM A LOT 6 PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ON IT, BUT I WANT TO SAY THANK
06:37:22PM YOU TO THOSE -- SOME ARE IN THE AUDIENCE -- MANY ARE IN THE
06:37:25PM AUDIENCE, THANK YOU FOR FIGHTING TO PROTECT THIS
06:37:27PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:37:27PM BECAUSE IT WASN'T ALWAYS LIKE THIS.
06:37:30PM YOU MENTIONED THE CROSSTOWN.
06:37:32PM THE CROSSTOWN CAME AND DIVIDED THE COMMUNITY IN THE 1970s, I
06:37:37PM BELIEVE.
06:37:37PM AND FOR A TIME, HYDE PARK WASN'T THE PRESERVED NEIGHBORHOOD
06:37:42PM THAT IT IS TODAY.
06:37:43PM SO I AM GLAD THAT WE HAVE LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT
06:37:46PM YEARS AGO FOUGHT FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND PRESERVING IT
06:37:52PM AND, YOU KNOW, KEEPING IT PRESERVED FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
06:37:55PM YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL IMPORTANT NAMES
06:37:58PM A LOT OF STREET NAMES THERE OR COMMUNITY CENTER.
06:38:02PM KATE JACKSON.
06:38:03PM FAMILY MEMBER WHO WAS A MAYOR.
06:38:05PM PETER O. KNIGHT THAT LIVED -- NOT THE BIG PETER O. KNIGHT
06:38:10PM HOUSE BUT OTHERS -- A FORMER CITY COUNCILMEMBER.
06:38:13PM NOW THE NAMESAKE OF THE AIRPORT ON DAVIS ISLAND.
06:38:16PM I CAN GO ON AND ON.
06:38:18PM I SPENT A LOT OF MY CHILDHOOD IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I
06:38:21PM WENT TO SCHOOL THERE ON SWANN.
06:38:23PM USED TO BE CALLED ST. JOHN'S GREEK ORTHODOX AND I SEEN THE
06:38:28PM CHANGES WHEN I WAS A KID 30 YEARS FROM NOW WHALEY'S GROCERY
06:38:32PM AND ALL THE THINGS THAT CHANGED.
06:38:35PM BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CHARACTER OF THE
06:38:37PM NEIGHBORHOOD, THE RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTURE, SOME OF THE
06:38:39PM COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES THAT YOU HAVE SHOWN THAT ARE
06:38:41PM SIGNIFICANCE CAN AND IMPORTANT GOING BACK TO THE '20s, GOING
06:38:44PM BACK TO THE LATE 1800s ON AND ON.
06:38:47PM A VERY SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:38:48PM THANK YOU FOR THAT HISTORY LESSON AND PRESENTATION BECAUSE
06:38:51PM IT IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE SEE IT AND HEAR ABOUT IT AND
06:38:53PM KNOW.
06:38:54PM THANK YOU.
06:38:54PM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: THANK YOU.
06:38:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE COMMENTS OR
06:39:00PM QUESTIONS?
06:39:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SAID IT ALL.
06:39:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
06:39:05PM NO?
06:39:06PM I AM SORRY.
06:39:07PM LET'S KEEP GOING.
06:39:11PM [LAUGHTER]
06:39:12PM PLEASE, LET'S KEEP GOING.
06:39:13PM NO PAUSING.
06:39:14PM >>DANNY COLLINS: GOOD EVENING, DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR
06:39:19PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
06:39:20PM I HAVE BEEN WORN IN.
06:39:21PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH SEVERAL
06:39:23PM POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:39:25PM THE EXPANSION WILL FURTHER OFFER INCENTIVES ASSOCIATED WITH
06:39:29PM BEING WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
06:39:31PM SPECIFICALLY TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT HISTORICAL STRUCTURES
06:39:35PM CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE POLICIES 6.1.6, 18.91.1 AND 19.2.3.
06:39:43PM THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO PROMOTE THE
06:39:47PM PRESERVATION OF HISTORICAL RESOURCES BY PROTECTING TAMPA'S
06:39:51PM SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURES.
06:39:52PM THE CITY'S QUALITY OF LIFE IS ENRICHED BY AN URBAN LANDSCAPE
06:39:57PM THAT SHOWS THE EVOLUTION OF ITS RICH HISTORY.
06:39:59PM EXPANDING THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THIS DISTRICT IS
06:40:02PM CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY DIRECTION.
06:40:03PM THE LOCAL DISTRICT BOUNDARY WILL CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE
06:40:06PM APPRECIATION OF THE CITY'S RICH HERITAGE WHILE ALSO
06:40:09PM SUPPORTING HISTORICAL -- HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN THE
06:40:14PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
06:40:14PM BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS
06:40:18PM IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:40:21PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
06:40:23PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE
06:40:25PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
06:40:26PM NEXT YOU WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY
06:40:30PM QUESTIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
06:40:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
06:40:46PM >> I HAVE AN OVERHEAD.
06:40:47PM HOPEFULLY IT WILL POP UP IN A SECOND AND I WILL TALK ABOUT
06:40:50PM IT IN A MINUTE.
06:40:51PM PAMELA JO HATLEY AND I REPRESENT THE APPLICANTS, HISTORIC
06:40:58PM HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE HYDE PARK SPANISH
06:41:00PM TOWN CREEK CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
06:41:02PM SO THE APPLICANTS ARE -- ARE REQUESTING AN EXPANSION OF THE
06:41:07PM HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT, THE EXISTING HYDE PARK HISTORIC
06:41:12PM DISTRICT TO INCLUDE AREAS AND STRUCTURES THAT ARE IMPORTANT
06:41:18PM IN PRESERVING --
06:41:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS HATLEY, I APOLOGIZE.
06:41:23PM >> CAN I MAKE IT POP UP AND GO AWAY?
06:41:42PM I DON'T NEED IT RIGHT AT THIS SECOND.
06:41:44PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
06:41:45PM OKAY.
06:41:49PM THANK YOU.
06:41:50PM SO THE APPLICANTS HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF FOR
06:41:54PM SEVERAL YEARS TO BRING THIS PROPOSAL FORWARD.
06:41:57PM THEY HAVE HAD EXTENSIVE OUTREACH.
06:42:00PM THEY HAD SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
06:42:03PM WE MAILED 656 PUBLIC NOTICE LETTERS AND POSTED 12 PUBLIC
06:42:09PM NOTICE SIGNS IN THE EXPANSION AREA.
06:42:11PM WE MAILED NOTICES TO ADDRESSES THAT WERE WITHIN THE
06:42:15PM EXPANSION AREA AND ANOTHER 275 FEET AROUND IT.
06:42:19PM THE CODE ONLY REQUIRES 250 FEET.
06:42:23PM SO WE WENT BEYOND WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES TO GET PUBLIC
06:42:26PM NOTICE OUT FOR THIS HEARING AND ALSO FOR THE -- FOR THE HPC
06:42:31PM HEARING.
06:42:31PM WE HAVE SUBMITTED OUR AFFIDAVIT OF COMPLIANCE TIMELY.
06:42:35PM AND I -- I WANT TO SUBMIT INTO THE RECORD, ACTUALLY, THE
06:42:45PM CREDENTIALS OF TWO PEOPLE WHO WILL BE SPEAKING TONIGHT AS
06:42:48PM EXPERT WITNESSES. TWO EXPERT WITNESSES.
06:42:50PM MR. RODNEY KITE POWELL PLANNED ROGER GRUNKE.
06:42:57PM I HAVE THEIR RESUMES TO PRESENT.
06:42:58PM SO MR. RODNEY KITE POWELL IS AN EXPERT IN TAMPA HISTORY.
06:43:16PM AND HE HOLDS BACHELOR'S AND MASTER'S DEGREE IN HISTORY AND
06:43:23PM HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE AND MANY PUBLICATIONS TO HIS NAME.
06:43:28PM MR. GRUNKE IS AN EXPERT IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
06:43:34PM A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN ARCHITECTURE AND A FLORIDA-LICENSED
06:43:39PM ARCHITECT AND MANY EXPERIENCES AND PUB WILL I CASES TO HIS
06:43:43PM NAME.
06:43:43PM THEY WILL BE SPEAKING IN A MOMENT AND PRESENT MORE EVIDENCE
06:43:46PM FOR YOU ON THE -- ON THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE EXPANSION
06:43:53PM AREA AND HOW IT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR THE CITY'S CODE FOR
06:43:58PM HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION.
06:44:00PM THE EVIDENCE WILL SHOW THAT THE PROPOSED EXPANSION OF THE
06:44:03PM HISTORIC DISTRICT MEETS THE CITY'S CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION
06:44:07PM AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
06:44:10PM THE CITY STAFF, OF COURSE, AGREES.
06:44:12PM YOU HEARD THE CITY'S PRESENTATION.
06:44:14PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, OF COURSE, HAS FOUND THE
06:44:17PM PROPOSAL CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:44:20PM AND OUR EXPERTS WILL PRESENT FURTHER.
06:44:23PM BEFORE THEY COME FORWARD, HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO ADDRESS ONE
06:44:27PM THING.
06:44:28PM AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THE OVERHEAD TO POP UP NOW.
06:44:31PM HOPEFULLY -- IS IT UP?
06:44:33PM OKAY.
06:44:34PM THANK YOU.
06:44:34PM ALL RIGHT, THIS IS A MAP.
06:44:37PM AND THE CITY STAFF IN THEIR PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE, SHOWED
06:44:39PM A SIMILAR MAP.
06:44:40PM THE EXISTING HISTORIC DISTRICT IS OUTLINED IN RED.
06:44:46PM THE PROPOSED EXPANSION AREA IS THE GREEN HATCHED AREA.
06:44:51PM NOW WE ARE PROPOSING TONIGHT TO AMEND OUR APPLICATION
06:44:57PM SLIGHTLY TO REDUCE THE PROPOSED BOUNDARY.
06:45:01PM AND I WILL EXPLAIN WHY.
06:45:03PM FIRST OF ALL, ON THIS MAP, THIS AREA AT THE TOP BETWEEN
06:45:08PM PLATT STREET AND THE -- AND THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY, THAT AREA
06:45:14PM TODAY IS NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
06:45:17PM THEY ARE COMMERCIAL USES.
06:45:19PM THEY DO -- THERE ARE SOME HISTORIC OR CONTRIBUTING
06:45:23PM STRUCTURES UP THERE AND SOME HISTORIC VALUE OF THOSE
06:45:26PM STRUCTURES; HOWEVER, THE NATURE OF THAT AREA BETWEEN
06:45:33PM THE ELMON EXPRESSWAY AND PLATT IS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM THE
06:45:36PM REMAINING AREA SOUTH OF PLATT.
06:45:38PM AND THE DISTRICT TODAY, THE BOUNDARY AT THE NORTH GOES RIGHT
06:45:46PM ALONG PLATT STREET.
06:45:48PM SO HOW WE ARE REQUESTING TO AMEND OUR REQUEST IS JUST TO
06:45:51PM TAKE THAT BOUNDARY STRAIGHT ACROSS OVER TO WILLOW.
06:45:55PM SO THAT THE EXPANSION AREA WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF THE GREEN
06:46:01PM HATCHED AREA BUT NOT NORTH OF PLATT STREET.
06:46:04PM WE ARE AMENDING THE APPLICATION TO PROPOSE THAT THE NORTH
06:46:07PM BOUNDARY BE THE MIDDLE OF PLATT RIGHT-OF-WAY.
06:46:10PM AND THAT IS, AS I SAID, ALREADY THE NORTH BOUNDARY FOR MOST
06:46:15PM OF THE EXISTING DISTRICT AND SO IT WILL JUST BE A NATURAL
06:46:20PM STRAIGHT ACROSS TO TAKE THAT.
06:46:21PM SEVERAL BUSINESS OWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNER WHO OWN
06:46:27PM PROPERTIES IN THAT AREA BETWEEN PLATT AND THE SELMON
06:46:34PM EXPRESSWAY DID APPROACH THE APPLICANTS AND INFORMED THEM
06:46:36PM THEY WOULD -- THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT EXPANSION OF THE
06:46:39PM HISTORIC DISTRICT.
06:46:40PM THEY WOULD SUPPORT IT.
06:46:42PM BUT THEY WISHED THAT THE BOUNDARY BE ALONG PLATT STREET AND
06:46:45PM NOT GO NORTH OF PLATT STREET.
06:46:47PM WE LOOKED AT THAT, AND WE THINK IT IS A REASONABLE PROPOSAL.
06:46:51PM SO THAT IS WHY WE ARE REQUESTING TO AMEND OUR PETITION
06:46:54PM TONIGHT JUST TO MAKE THAT BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT.
06:46:57PM THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
06:46:59PM IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M HERE.
06:47:01PM OTHERWISE I WOULD LIKE TO CALL MR. RODNEY POWELL UP.
06:47:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:47:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WONDER AND MAYBE YOUR TWO EXPERTS CAN
06:47:11PM ANSWER THIS ALSO.
06:47:12PM BUT WHY WAS THE LOCAL DISTRICT NOT SET UP TO MATCH THE
06:47:15PM NATIONAL DISTRICT WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP.
06:47:19PM SECOND, WHY WOULDN'T YOU PROPOSE GOING ON THE OTHER SIDE
06:47:22PM OF SELMON AND MATCHING THE NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
06:47:26PM >> I BELIEVE YOU ARE RIGHT.
06:47:27PM MR. RODNEY KITE POWELL MAY HAVE THAT HISTORY AND CAN ADDRESS
06:47:31PM THAT QUESTION, RIGHT?
06:47:33PM IN A MOMENT.
06:47:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHY WOULD YOU NOT PROPOSE EXTENDING THEM TO
06:47:39PM MATCH EACH OTHER NOW?
06:47:40PM >> TO MATCH THE NATIONAL HISTORIC --
06:47:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: INSTEAD OF JUST GOING TO PLATT STREET, TO
06:47:47PM KENNEDY AND EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THE BLUE LINE.
06:47:49PM >> I BELIEVE THAT MR. KITE POWELL WITH ADDRESS SOME OF THAT
06:47:54PM AND MAYBE STAFF CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THAT.
06:47:56PM ANY FURTHER QUESTION FROM COUNCIL FOR ME?
06:48:02PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
06:48:03PM >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, RODNEY KITE POWELL, 3714 WEST
06:48:14PM SANTIAGO STREET.
06:48:15PM I KNOW YOU READ THE HISTORICAL BACKGROUND ON HYDE PARK, BUT
06:48:19PM I WANTED TO TOUCH ON MORE IMPORTANT POINTS FOR YOU.
06:48:22PM HYDE PARK IS ONE OF THE OLDEST NEIGHBORHOODS, 1885, ANDREW
06:48:26PM JACKSON A ARRIVED IN 1920s SOLD A WESTERN PORTION TO
06:48:33PM OBADIAH H. PLATT TO MADE TAMPA HIS WINTER HOME SINCE THE
06:48:37PM 1870S.
06:48:37PM DUB DIVIDED THE PLOT AND NAMED THE SUBDIVISION HYDE PARK
06:48:42PM AFTER THE COMMUNITY WHERE HE LIVED OUTSIDE OF CHICAGO.
06:48:44PM A NARROW AREA OF LAND THAT RUN NORTH-SOUTH TO CLEVELAND
06:48:49PM STREET DOWN TO THE BAY CENTERED ALONG HYDE PARK AVENUE.
06:48:51PM PLATT'S PURCHASE AND SUBSEQUENT DEVELOPMENT COINCIDED WITH
06:48:55PM AND HELPED TO HUSHER IN TAMPA'S MODERN ERA.
06:48:58PM OVER THE NEXT 40 YEARS, HYDE PARK TOOK ON ALL THE
06:49:01PM CHARACTERISTICS OF A CITY WITHIN THE CITY.
06:49:02PM PORTIONS OF THE PROPOSED EXPANSION AREA INCLUDING WHAT YOU
06:49:07PM JUST ASKED COUNCILMAN CARLSON, UP TO KENNEDY, SHOW THE
06:49:11PM DIVERSITY OF THE BUILDING TYPES AND USES, HOMES, APARTMENTS,
06:49:14PM EVEN A SMALL-SCALE HOTEL, SMALL OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL
06:49:18PM BUILDINGS AND CORNER GROCERY STORES AND GAS STATIONS DOTTED
06:49:21PM THE HYDE PARK LANDSCAPE.
06:49:22PM SEVERAL BUILDINGS IN THE PROPOSED EXPANSION AGE LONG PLATT
06:49:25PM STREET DATE FROM THEY ARE A.
06:49:27PM THE OPENING OF THE PLATT STREET BRIDGE IN 1926 CONNECTED HYDE
06:49:31PM PARK MORE DIRECTLY TO DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
06:49:33PM BECAME THE PRINCIPAL GATEWAY BETWEEN THE TWO SESSION
06:49:40PM SECTIONS OF TOWN.
06:49:40PM THE OTHER PART OF HYDE PARK DREW.
06:49:42PM DOBYVILLE WAS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOOD IN PART IN
06:49:47PM THE WESTERN SECTION OF THE EXPANSION AREA.
06:49:50PM A VITAL SEGREGATION NEIGHBORHOOD HOME TO WORKING-CLASS
06:49:54PM FAMILIES, THREE CHURCHES, A SCHOOL, BUSINESSES AND OVER 100
06:49:58PM HOMES.
06:49:58PM SCHOOLS, CHURCHES AND BUSINESSES ARE GONE AND MANY OF THE
06:50:00PM HOMES HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED OVER THE YEAR BUT THE DOBY FAMILY
06:50:04PM HOME ON AZEELE STREET AMONG OTHERS ARE STILL STANDING.
06:50:07PM HYDE PARK THRIVED IN THE 1950s UNTIL IT BEGAN A STEADY IT
06:50:12PM DECLINE.
06:50:12PM RENAISSANCE IN THE LATE '70s AND '80s, THE VERY PROCESS WE
06:50:19PM ARE DISCUSSING TONIGHT.
06:50:19PM HYDE PARK BOTH NATIONAL AND LOCAL WERE ESTABLISHED AT THAT
06:50:23PM TIME.
06:50:23PM THE SUCCESS OF THE LOCAL DISTRICT IS UNDENIERABLE AND THE
06:50:27PM PART OF HYDE PARK WITHIN THE LOCAL DISTRICT AND THE PART
06:50:30PM OUTSIDE OF IT.
06:50:30PM TO BE CLEAR, THE BOUNDARY LINE SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN PLACE
06:50:33PM WHERE IT IS AND THE AREA WE ARE DISCUSSING TONIGHT SHOULD
06:50:36PM NEVER HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT OF THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
06:50:39PM PROPOSED EXPANSION WALL INTO IS FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION OUT
06:50:44PM OF THE THREE OF THE FOUR CRITERIA, A, B, AND C THAT YOU
06:50:50PM HEARD ABOUT FROM MR. FERNANDEZ.
06:50:52PM EXPEDIENCY AND NOT EVEN RACE PLAYED A ROLE WHERE THE LINE
06:50:57PM WAS DRAWN IN THE 1980s PLAYED A ROLE IN THE AREA FAILING TO
06:51:02PM GAIN LOCAL HISTORIC STATUS IN THE EARLY 2000S WHEN I SAT ON
06:51:06PM THE CITY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND WE FAILED TO
06:51:09PM PROTECT DOBYVILLE.
06:51:12PM NOW IS THE TIME TO RIGHT THOSE WRONGS.
06:51:13PM NOW IS THE TIME TO EXPAND THE HYDE PARK AND OBADIAH'S
06:51:18PM ORIGINAL PLAT AND EMBRACE DOBYVILLE AND HYDE PARK.
06:51:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
06:51:27PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:51:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR YOU AND MR. GRUNKE, WE HAD PEOPLE IN
06:51:35PM PUBLIC COMMENT -- JUST WHAT WE HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
06:51:38PM PEOPLE SAY THIS IS JUST A BUNCH OF HOUSES THAT YOU CAN BUY
06:51:41PM ON A SEARS CATALOG.
06:51:42PM HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE -- AND THE POINT BEING THAT ANYBODY
06:51:45PM IN THE COUNTRY COULD BUY THESE AND THEY ARE THE SAME
06:51:47PM THROUGHOUT.
06:51:48PM WOULD YOU SAYS THERE ANY UNIQUE ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE
06:51:51PM IN THIS AREA FROM A TAMPA PERSPECTIVE?
06:51:54PM >> THERE ABSOLUTELY IS.
06:51:55PM YOU COULD BUY THESE HOUSES.
06:51:57PM THEY ARE SEARS CATALOG HOMES YOU COULD BUY ANYWHERE.
06:52:02PM BETWEEN THE STREETSCAPE AND THE DYNAMIC OF SOCIAL, ECONOMIC
06:52:07PM DIFFERENCES THAT WERE WITHIN THE WHOLE SECTION OF HYDE PARK
06:52:10PM AND THE ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE OF SOME OF THE HOMES
06:52:13PM CURRENTLY WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND WITHIN THE PROPOSED AREA
06:52:16PM DEFINITELY SET HYDE PARK ASIDE FROM PLACES WITHIN THE CITY
06:52:21PM OF TAMPA AND CERTAINLY PLACES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
06:52:23PM HYDE PARK IS AN UNIQUE PLACE.
06:52:25PM AND THE -- THE CURRENT LOCAL BOUNDARY AND THE PROPOSED AREA
06:52:29PM SHOW THAT UNIQUE NATURE IN THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE
06:52:35PM STREETSCAPE AND ALL FACETS OF HOW YOU CAN KIND OF DEFINE
06:52:38PM THAT.
06:52:39PM SO, ABSOLUTELY, YOU CAN GET A SEARS ROEBUCK BUT YOU ONLY
06:52:43PM HAVE OUR HYDE PARK.
06:52:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
06:52:50PM >> THANK YOU.
06:52:50PM >> PAMELA JO HATLEY AGAIN.
06:52:57PM JUST TO GO BACK TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S QUESTION.
06:53:00PM I BELIEVE THAT STAFF DID COVER THAT IN THEIR PRESENTATION
06:53:02PM THAT THE AREA NORTH OF THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY DIDN'T HAVE
06:53:06PM MANY CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AT ALL ANYMORE.
06:53:09PM SO MANY HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED AND VERY SPARCE.
06:53:16PM THAT IS ONE REASON WHY IT WASN'T INCLUDED.
06:53:18PM >> WHICH ONE IS IT?
06:53:48PM A WORD FILE.
06:53:48PM HE DID BRING IT.
06:53:50PM >> WE HAD IT ON BEFORE.
06:53:53PM >> I WILL JUST USE YOURS -- I CAN USE THE OVERHEAD INSTEAD.
06:53:57PM ARE THEY IN ORDER?
06:54:00PM ARE THEY BACKWARDS?
06:54:02PM >> THEY ARE IN ORDER.
06:54:04PM >> OKAY.
06:54:04PM THANK YOU.
06:54:08PM >> COUNCIL, ROGER GRUNKE, ARCHITECT.
06:54:16PM 2708 NORTH ELMORE AVENUE.
06:54:19PM PEOPLE ASK WHAT QUALIFIES A NEIGHBORHOOD AS A HISTORIC
06:54:24PM DISTRICT?
06:54:25PM THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE SAYS, ONE, IT MUST BE 50 YEARS
06:54:28PM OLD.
06:54:28PM TWO, BE IMPORTANT TO LOCAL, STATE AND NATIONAL HISTORY.
06:54:32PM THREE, IT MUST SHOW A SIGNIFICANT CONCENTRATION OF BUILDINGS
06:54:38PM HISTORICALLY OR AESTHETICALLY UNITED.
06:54:41PM HYDE PARK FULFILLS ALL OF THESE REQUIREMENTS.
06:54:45PM IN 1889, HENRY PLANT BROUGHT THE RAILROAD TO TAMPA.
06:54:49PM THIS CONNECTED THE IMPOVERISHED AND ISOLATED CITY TO
06:54:53PM NORTHERN CITIES.
06:54:53PM THIS OPENED THE DOORS TO TAMPA EXPORTING LUMBER, CITRUS,
06:54:59PM WINTER VEGETABLES AND TURNED THE CITY'S FORTUNES AROUND.
06:55:03PM THE RAILROAD BROUGHT WEALTHY VISITORS TO TAMPA, SEEKING MILD
06:55:07PM WINTERS, BOATING, HUNTING AND SOCIALIZING IN THE GRANTED
06:55:11PM STYLE.
06:55:11PM TO ACCOMMODATE THEM, PLANT CONSTRUCTED THE TAMPA BAY HOTEL
06:55:16PM BUILT IN 1891 IN HIGH VICTORIAN STYLE.
06:55:20PM IT SOON BECAME THE EPICENTER OF THE CITY.
06:55:24PM IT WAS THE MOST SPLENDID BUILDING ON FLORIDA'S GULF COAST
06:55:27PM AND HAPPENED TO BE ADJACENT TO O.H. PLATT NEWLY SUBDIVIDED
06:55:33PM HYDE PARK LAND DEVELOPMENT.
06:55:34PM WITH THE SUCCESS OF THE HOTEL, WEALTHY TAMPIANS BEGAN TO
06:55:40PM BUILD RICK FOR IAN MANSIONS ON HYDE PARK PLACE AND HYDE PARK
06:55:45PM AVENUE.
06:55:45PM HYDE PARK BEGAN AT THE FOOT OF THE TAMPA BAY HOTEL AND
06:55:49PM DEVELOPED SOUTH FROM WEST HILLSBOROUGH BAY AND WEST TO THE
06:55:52PM RAILROAD.
06:55:53PM CHARACTER TURNED INDUSTRIAL AND SHOTGUN COTTAGE TO THEIR
06:56:00PM SERVANTS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THEIR OWN HOMES.
06:56:02PM DURING THE JIM CROW AREA, THIS AREA BECAME KNOWN AS
06:56:08PM "DOBYVILLE," A THRIVING AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY THAT
06:56:11PM INCLUDED A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, CHURCHES AND CEMETERY.
06:56:13PM HYDE PARK PARTY OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE 1836 TO 1983 BEGAN
06:56:21PM WITH HORSE-DRAWN CARRIAGES AND GASLIGHTING AND ENDED WITH
06:56:26PM ELECTRICITY AND AUTOMOBILES.
06:56:28PM THE EARLY ARCHITECTURE IS VICTORIAN AND THE LATTER, AMERICAN
06:56:33PM CRAFTSMAN.
06:56:34PM HYDE PARK WAS BUILT ONTO A MULTICULTURAL FOUNDATION.
06:56:37PM EARLY INHABITANTS WERE NATIVE-AMERICANS AND CUBAN WHO
06:56:41PM SETTLED AT SPANISH TOWN CREEK.
06:56:44PM HYDE PARK WAS HOME TO EARLIEST ANGLO SETTLERS AND HOME TO A
06:56:50PM THRIVING AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
06:56:51PM THE AREA IS DEFINED BY THE NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT IS
06:56:55PM EMINENTLY WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION TO BE INCLUDED INTO THE
06:56:59PM LOCAL DISTRICT EXPANSION.
06:57:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:57:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:57:12PM SOMETHING I MENTIONED THIS MORNING AFFIDAVIT OUR CRA MEETING
06:57:16PM WAS THE DISAPPEARANCE OF THE HISTORIC AFRICAN-AMERICAN
06:57:19PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
06:57:19PM CENTRAL AVENUE.
06:57:20PM PLACES NEAR HERE THAT WERE ALL DEMOLISHED OR FOR THE MOST
06:57:25PM PART, VERY FEW STRUCTURES.
06:57:27PM WHEREAS IN DOBYVILLE, YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE THAT
06:57:32PM ARE LIVING HISTORY TO THAT AREA DURING SEGREGATION AND
06:57:35PM DURING JIM CROW.
06:57:37PM AND ANOTHER REASON WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO EXPAND THIS
06:57:39PM DISTRICT AND PROTECT THOSE STRUCTURES BECAUSE THROUGHOUT THE
06:57:43PM REST OF THE CITY WE HAVE LOST SO MUCH AND FOR SO MANY
06:57:46PM REASONS.
06:57:46PM THAT IS JUST ANOTHER POSITIVE THERE.
06:57:48PM THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
06:57:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
06:57:56PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:57:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. GRUNKE, ONE QUESTION.
06:58:02PM APPEAR PROPOSAL TO TAKE PLATT STREET OUT, BUT HOW IMPORTANT
06:58:06PM IS IT TO HAVE A GATEWAY -- OR A TRANSITION TO THE HISTORIC
06:58:10PM DISTRICT.
06:58:10PM SO SOUTH OF PLATT STREET, EVERYTHING WILL, PROTECTED, BUT IF
06:58:14PM THAT PART OF PLATT STREET IS OUT, IS IT IMPORTANT FOR
06:58:17PM HISTORIC DISTRICT TO HAVE THAT?
06:58:20PM AND KNOWING THAT THE TESTIMONY WAS THAT MANY BUILDS HAVE
06:58:23PM BEEN TORN DOWN.
06:58:23PM AND A LOT OF CITIES, BUILDINGS, MEANING ARCHITECTURAL
06:58:27PM STANDARDS, HAVE BEEN BUILT IN PLACES WHERE BUILDINGS HAD
06:58:30PM BEEN PREVIOUSLY TORN DOWN.
06:58:32PM >> WHEN A NEIGHBORHOOD BECOMES DESIGNATED AS A LOCAL
06:58:39PM HISTORIC DISTRICT, THERE IS A FORMAT THAT FOLLOWS.
06:58:42PM PART OF THAT IS THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW OF EVERY BUILDING.
06:58:49PM ANY -- ORGANIC CITIES DO NOT CHANGE THEIR COMPOSITION
06:58:59PM ABRUPTLY FROM RESIDENTIAL TO INDUSTRIAL OR AGRICULTURE TO
06:59:04PM HIGH-RISE RESIDENTIAL.
06:59:07PM THERE IS A TRANSITION.
06:59:10PM THAT AREA -- THERE SHOULD BE A TRANSITION AROUND THE
06:59:15PM HISTORIC DISTRICT.
06:59:16PM AND THE AREA NORTH OF PLATT AND EVEN ON UP TO THE HOTEL
06:59:22PM SHOULD BE LOOKED AT IN THE FUTURE AS A TRANSITION ZONE, NOT
06:59:26PM ONE THAT NECESSARILY FALLS INTO THE STRICT FOR MAT OF -- OF
06:59:31PM A LOCAL DISTRICT WHERE YOU HAVE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.
06:59:35PM BUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION
06:59:41PM TRANSPORTATION, HOW THE ROADS ARE GOING TO AFFECT THE WIDTH
06:59:45PM OF THE ROADS.
06:59:48PM THE DEGREE OF TRAFFIC THAT IS FLOWING THROUGH A
06:59:51PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:59:52PM AND EVEN THE -- THE MASSING AND THE -- THE MASSING OF MODERN
07:00:00PM BUILDINGS AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP TO THE STREET.
07:00:04PM THAT -- THOSE ARE EXAMPLES OF CUSHIONS THAT WOULD STRICT
07:00:14PM HISTORIC DISTRICT AND GIVE IT THE BUFFERING THAT IT SHOULD
07:00:21PM HAVE.
07:00:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
07:00:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
07:00:26PM >> THANK YOU.
07:00:26PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
07:00:29PM THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION FOR THE APPLICANTS.
07:00:33PM WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THE EXPANSION OF THE HYDE
07:00:37PM PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT AS WE PROPOSED TONIGHT.
07:00:40PM WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:00:42PM AND I KNOW THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO
07:00:45PM SPEAK.
07:00:45PM IF WE HAVE ANY TIME LEFT OVER FOR OUR PRESENTATION, I WOULD
07:00:49PM LIKE TO USE IT FOR REBUTTAL, IF NECESSARY.
07:00:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
07:00:52PM AT THIS TIME, WE WILL BE TAKING COMMENTS FROM THE MEMBERS IN
07:01:01PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
07:01:04PM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE WANT TO HEAR EVERY ONE OF YOU AND
07:01:18PM EVERY ONE OF YOUR COMMENTS, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, CAN
07:01:22PM WE REFRAIN FROM REPEATING WHAT THE PERSON IN FRONT OF YOU
07:01:26PM HAS SAID.
07:01:26PM AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, THERE ARE SEVEN PEOPLE DOWNSTAIRS
07:01:33PM THAT ARE WAITING TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM ALSO.
07:01:37PM SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE, YOU CAN, PLEASE LET'S LEAVE THE ROOM
07:01:41PM SO WE CAN ALLOW OTHER PEOPLE TO COME IN AND GIVE THEIR
07:01:45PM COMMENTS.
07:01:46PM MY STATEMENT STILL STANDS.
07:01:57PM PLEASE PROCEED, SIR.
07:01:59PM AND REMEMBER, COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND WHETHER
07:02:02PM OR NOT YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:02:04PM >> WILLIAM MALLOY, 325 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
07:02:13PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
07:02:15PM MY COMMENTS ARE BRIEF AND DIRECT, DIRECT AGAINST THE
07:02:18PM SITUATION, NOT AGAINST YOU.
07:02:18PM I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
07:02:20PM OUR OFFICE, WHICH WE OWN, IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS
07:02:24PM PROPOSAL.
07:02:25PM WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER WITH THE PROPOSAL, WITH ANYONE
07:02:29PM ELSE DOING AS THEY PLEASE, BUT WE QUITE FRANKLY WANT NO PART
07:02:33PM OF WHAT WE CONSIDER A DOWNSIZING AND AN ECONOMIC LOSS ON OUR
07:02:38PM PROPERTY BY THIS -- THIS HISTORIC OVERLAY.
07:02:41PM WE WERE NEVER ASKED TO PARTICIPATE.
07:02:43PM WE NEVER CONSENTED TO PARTICIPATION.
07:02:46PM AND AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, OUR PROPERTY WAS INCLUDED IN
07:02:49PM THIS EFFORT ALMOST FRAUDULENTLY.
07:02:52PM AN AFFIDAVIT OUT THERE THAT SAYS SO AND SO IS AN OWNER OF MY
07:02:56PM PROPERTY AND AUTHORIZING OUR INCLUSION IN THIS SCENARIO.
07:02:59PM THAT IS NOT AUTHORIZED.
07:03:01PM WE DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF THIS.
07:03:03PM I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
07:03:05PM AGAIN, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS HAPPENING.
07:03:09PM PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE 325 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
07:03:12PM IF THIS DOES GO FORWARD, WE ARE NOT GOING TO DROP IT.
07:03:15PM WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THIS.
07:03:16PM IT AFFECTS OUR BUSINESS.
07:03:17PM IT AFFECTS OUR PROPERTY.
07:03:18PM I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
07:03:21PM THANK YOU.
07:03:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:03:23PM >> GOOD EVENING.
07:03:32PM MY NAME IS HAROLD DOBY.
07:03:35PM AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN
07:03:38PM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, FIRST OF ALL, FOR YOUR
07:03:41PM CONSIDERATION.
07:03:41PM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
07:03:45PM AS A DESCENDANT OF RICHARD DOBY, I MYSELF AND THE DOBY
07:03:53PM FAMILY ARE CERTAINLY FOR THE EXPANSION AND FOR THE
07:03:56PM PRESERVATION OF THIS HISTORICAL DISTRICT AND HISTORICAL
07:04:00PM AREA..
07:04:00PM SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
07:04:02PM WEAPON THANK YOU FOR REMEMBERING OUR DESCENDENT'S
07:04:08PM CONTRIBUTION AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
07:04:09PM SO THANK YOU.
07:04:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:04:16PM >> GOOD EVENING, TARYN NEYLAND, 1405 WEST AZEELE.
07:04:21PM I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE EXPANSION.
07:04:23PM AND HONORING AND PRESERVING THE HISTORICALLY CONTRIBUTING
07:04:27PM STRUCTURES.
07:04:28PM PRESERVING, OF COURSE, WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER THE MAGIC OF
07:04:32PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE FRONT-FACING STREETS, THE FRONT
07:04:35PM PORCHES.
07:04:36PM I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE EXPANSION.
07:04:38PM IDEALLY, THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT WOULD HAVE INCLUDED
07:04:43PM SPANISH TOWN CREEK DECADES AGO.
07:04:45PM IT IS IMPERATIVE TO TAKE THE MEASURES TO DO SO TO PRESERVE
07:04:49PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE COMMUNITY, THE HOMES AND THE
07:04:51PM CHARACTER.
07:04:52PM AGAIN, I HAVE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THE DOBYVILLE
07:04:57PM HOME, RICHARD DO ABOUT,Y WEST EZEAL SINCE APRIL 2020.
07:05:03PM PRIOR TO THAT I LIVED IN THE HISTORIC HYDE PARK ASSOCIATION
07:05:07PM FOR OVER A DECADE.
07:05:08PM AS YOU SHALL AWARE, THE STRUCTURES ATTRIBUTED TO
07:05:12PM RICHARD DOBY NO LONGER EXIST EXCEPT FOR HIS HOME.
07:05:14PM OF GREAT IMPORTANCE TO INCLUDE THIS HOME AND THE
07:05:17PM NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT TO KEEP
07:05:20PM RICHARD DOBY'S CONTRIBUTIONS AS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
07:05:24PM PART OF THE CITY OF TAMPA'S HISTORY.
07:05:26PM NOT TOO LATE TO PRESERVE, SAVE AND HONOR WHAT IS HERE.
07:05:29PM THANK YOU.
07:05:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:05:31PM >> HOW ARE YOU DOING.
07:05:38PM COST ASORLIS.
07:05:42PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT -- SIT.
07:05:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AT THIS TIME, ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO HAVE
07:05:46PM NOT BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE RISE, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE
07:05:51PM SWORN IN.
07:05:51PM >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
07:05:56PM [SWEARING IN]
07:06:01PM >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
07:06:02PM >> PART OF THIS IS A LEARNING PROCESS FOR ME.
07:06:04PM I JUST BOUGHT A BUILDING ON SOUTH BOULEVARD.
07:06:06PM I WASN'T AWARE OF THIS PROCESS.
07:06:08PM I GOT A LETTER IN THE MAIL.
07:06:09PM NOT FOR THE SAME FIRM EXTENT AS THE FIRST PERSON, BUT I DO
07:06:13PM OPPOSE IT.
07:06:13PM I DON'T OPPOSE DOBYVILLE INCLUDED IN THIS.
07:06:17PM EVERYTHING THAT I HEARD AND READ WHEN I GOT THE MATERIAL IS
07:06:20PM TO PRESERVE THE HOMES.
07:06:21PM IN THE SAME VAIN EVERYTHING NORTH OF PLATT BEING COMMERCIAL
07:06:25PM WAS ALLOWED TO BE REMOVED, I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO SEE WHAT
07:06:28PM THE PROCESS TO CONSIDER THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH BOULEVARD TO
07:06:31PM ALSO NOT BE INCLUDED BECAUSE THERE IS A GROW FINANCIAL BANK
07:06:35PM THERE THAT I AM SURE WAS NOT THERE 100 YEARS AGO.
07:06:37PM BUILDING NEXT TO ME IS PRETTY MUCH NEW CONSTRUCTION.
07:06:40PM SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST SEE WHERE THE
07:06:43PM BOUNDARIES COULD LIE.
07:06:45PM AGREE WITH THE HISTORY.
07:06:47PM I LOVE HYDE PARK.
07:06:48PM I THINK ALL THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN AROUND THE RESIDENTIAL.
07:06:50PM AND I JUST BOUGHT AN OFFICE BUILDING RIGHT AT BOULEVARD AT
07:06:55PM THE END OF JULY.
07:06:57PM JUST SEEING ALL OF THIS.
07:06:58PM I WAS NOT INCLUDED AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE IS A
07:07:03PM DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
07:07:05PM I AM KIND OF HERE TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT.
07:07:08PM THAT IS A COMMENT.
07:07:09PM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY RESPONSE.
07:07:10PM BUT THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT.
07:07:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:07:16PM >> GOOD EVENING.
07:07:19PM MY NAME IS GLORIA JEAN ROYSTER.
07:07:23PM 400 EAST HARRISON STREET IN DOWNTOWN, TAMPA.
07:07:26PM HYDE PARK'S HISTORIC BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD OR WEST HYDE PARK
07:07:31PM CARRIED FOR GENERATIONS THE NAME DOBYVILLE FOR LANDOWNER,
07:07:37PM BUSINESSMAN, ENTREPRENEUR, AND REAL ESTATE INVESTOR RICHARD
07:07:43PM CURTIS DOBY.
07:07:45PM HE OWNED LAND ALL OVER TAMPA, INCLUDING THE SITE THAT WE
07:07:50PM KNOW AS ZION CEMETERY.
07:07:53PM I WANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD TONIGHT THAT I SUPPORT THE
07:07:58PM RECOMMENDATION FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION FOR
07:08:03PM THE EXPANSION OF THE HYDE PARK LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT,
07:08:09PM BECAUSE TAMPA'S HISTORY IS EVERYBODY'S HISTORY.
07:08:11PM THANK YOU.
07:08:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:08:15PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
07:08:21PM MY NAME IS DAN MALLOY.
07:08:23PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
07:08:24PM LIKE ANY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER, OF COURSE, I DON'T WANT
07:08:27PM TO BE PART OF THIS DISTRICT.
07:08:28PM THE FINANCIAL LOSS WILL BE SIGNIFICANT.
07:08:31PM I DO WANT TO POINT OUT TO THE YOU FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE ON
07:08:36PM THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH BOULEVARD, THERE ARE NO RESIDENTIAL
07:08:39PM STRUCTURES BETWEEN THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY AND SWANN
07:08:43PM AVENUE.
07:08:43PM ZERO.
07:08:44PM THEY ARE ALL OFFICES AS THE LAST GENTLEMAN POINTED OUT A
07:08:49PM BANK.
07:08:49PM THERE IS A RESTAURANT THERE.
07:08:50PM IF YOU ELIMINATE THE TWO CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES WHICH ARE
07:08:53PM NORTH OF PLATT, SOUTH OF PLATT, THERE ARE ONLY TWO MORE
07:08:57PM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES IS THAT ARE LISTED ON THE 1985 HYDE
07:09:02PM PARK SURVEY ONE OF WHICH IS MINE WHICH HAS UNDER GONE
07:09:06PM CONSIDERABLE MODIFICATIONS SINCE TIME IT WAS BUILT.
07:09:09PM A CLOSED-IN PORCH AND AN ADDITION ON THE BACK.
07:09:13PM THE OTHER I BELIEVE IS 307 SOUTH BOULEVARD WHICH THE LAST
07:09:16PM GENTLEMAN TALKED ABOUT.
07:09:17PM AND THAT PROPERTY HAS -- THE PORCHES HAVE BEEN FILLED IN AND
07:09:21PM BASICALLY HAVE THE STRUCTURE OF A BOX.
07:09:23PM I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD BE VIEWED AS SIGNIFICANTLY
07:09:28PM CONTRIBUTING NOW.
07:09:28PM OUR REQUEST IF YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE THE PROPERTY NORTH OF
07:09:32PM PLATT STREET, THAT YOU ALSO TAKE OUT THE PROPERTY ON THE
07:09:34PM WEST SIDE OF SOUTH BOULEVARD, FRONTING ON BOULEVARD WHICH IS
07:09:37PM ALL COMMERCIAL AND HAS NO SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECTURAL VALUE TO
07:09:40PM ADD TO THIS DISTRICT.
07:09:41PM THANK YOU.
07:09:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:09:46PM >> I HAD TURNED IN A FORM FOR FIVE PEOPLE HERE WHO WILL BE
07:09:53PM YIELDING THEIR TIME.
07:09:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
07:09:59PM IF YOU ARE HERE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME -- NOT STATE YOUR
07:10:04PM NAME OR ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU ARE PRESENT AND WAIVING YOUR
07:10:07PM THREE MINUTES TO GIVE AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE.
07:10:09PM RYAN KING.
07:10:10PM THANK YOU, CRYSTAL GULLIGE.
07:10:13PM ANGIE BERLIN.
07:10:16PM MARVIN JACK.
07:10:19PM PRONOUNCE IT DIRECTLY AND BENJAMIN JACK.
07:10:24PM FIVE ADDITIONAL MINUTES WITH A TOTAL OF EIGHT.
07:10:27PM THANK YOU.
07:10:27PM >> MY NAME IS MY Y'ALL JEPP.
07:10:38PM 211 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
07:10:40PM I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR HANGING AROUND MR. STEWART'S
07:10:44PM DESK.
07:10:45PM HE WAS ASKING ME FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS --
07:10:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO USE ALL OF
07:10:51PM YOUR EIGHT MINUTES.
07:10:52PM >> I UNDERSTAND.
07:10:53PM I DON'T WANT TO.
07:10:54PM I GOT DOWN TO FIVE AND A HALF TODAY.
07:10:56PM SO I AM ALMOST THERE.
07:10:58PM I SUBMITTED A PACKAGE FOR RECORD THIS WEEK, WHICH WAS A
07:11:03PM PACKAGE OF PETITIONS AND OTHER SUPPORTING INFORMATION THAT
07:11:06PM REPRESENT THE -- WHAT I CALL THE INFIELD, THE AREA NORTH OF
07:11:09PM WILL DOE -- NORTH OF PLATT, SOUTH OF THE SELMON, WHAT THE
07:11:16PM APPLICANTS ARE ASKING TO INCLUDE.
07:11:17PM I CALL IT THE INFILL.
07:11:19PM IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE INFILL OF THE NASCAR RACE, THE
07:11:23PM AN AREA NORTH OF PLATT.
07:11:24PM EVERY PROPERTY IS WITHIN 80 FEET OF EITHER THE EXPRESSWAY,
07:11:30PM PLATT BOULEVARD, WILLOW OR HYDE PARK BOULEVARD.
07:11:34PM NO HIGH TRAFFIC RESIDENTIAL AREA ANYMORE.
07:11:37PM CASE WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE WITH THESE PETITIONS.
07:11:39PM 27 ACTUALLY THAT REPRESENT 26 OF THE PARCELS OF THE 38
07:11:46PM PARCELS.
07:11:46PM WELL, OF THOSE 38, NINE OF OWNERS BANKS, A CHURCH, THE TAMPA
07:11:52PM HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY.
07:11:55PM WE DIDN'T REACH OUT TO THOSE AS PART OF THE APPLICATION
07:11:58PM PROCESS.
07:11:59PM WE ONLY WENT TO THOSE THAT WERE NOT THE TYPE OF PROPERTY
07:12:02PM THAT WILL BE PRIVATE OWNERS MOST EFFECTED.
07:12:04PM OF THE 29, THREE STAYED NEUTRAL AND DID NOT WANT TO RESPOND
07:12:09PM AT ALL AND WE GOT 27 PETITIONS -- THAT REPRESENT THE 26 OF
07:12:15PM THE 29 WE REACHED OUT TO AND ALL ARE OPPOSED GOING NORTH OF
07:12:18PM PLATT.
07:12:19PM BUT IF YOU READ THE PETITIONS, ALL ARE SAYING WE ARE IN
07:12:22PM FAVOR OF THE AMENDED PLAN PRESENTED BY MISS HATLEY TONIGHT.
07:12:26PM WE ARE NOT PROPOSED TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS BEING TAKEN IN,
07:12:29PM BUT THE POINT OF OURS IS, OURS IS NO LONGER A NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:12:32PM IT SIMPLY IS NOT.
07:12:34PM THE BRIDGES THERE MAKE FOR PART-TIME HOMELESS SHELTERS.
07:12:39PM NOBODY WILL EVER BUY A HOME IN THAT AREA WHERE WE ARE FOR
07:12:42PM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
07:12:43PM THEY ARE JUST NOT GOING TO RAISE THEIR KIDS THERE.
07:12:45PM FOR THAT REASON, WE ARE COMMERCIAL VALUE ONLY.
07:12:48PM COMMERCIAL BUYERS WILL NOT BUY -- WILL SHY AWAY FROM THESE
07:12:55PM PROPERTIES.
07:12:56PM WE WOULD LIKE TO CITE THE THREE POINTS MADE BY STAFF FOR
07:12:58PM ALLOWING THIS TO GO FORWARD UNDER 27-257.2.
07:13:03PM THAT THE AREAS ASSOCIATED WITH SIGNIFICANT EVENTS,
07:13:06PM SIGNIFICANT PERSONS AND HAVE IT THESE EMBODIED CERTAIN
07:13:11PM CHARACTERISTICS.
07:13:11PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE INFIELD AS A DISTINCT AREA WHICH I
07:13:16PM BELIEVE IT IS AND NO LONGER A NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:13:17PM THE ONLY SIGNIFICANT EVENTS ARE THE BUILDING OF THE
07:13:20PM EXPRESSWAY, THE ICE OF THE AREA BETWEEN THE EXPRESSWAY AND
07:13:24PM BUILDINGS AS MAINTENANCE FACILITIES BY THE EXPRESSWAY
07:13:27PM AUTHORITY AND THE WIDENING THAT WILL OCCUR ON THAT
07:13:30PM EXPRESSWAY BETWEEN 2024 AND 2025.
07:13:33PM ALL OF THESE ARE NEGLECT STIFFS AND SAYS IT THIS SHOULD NOT
07:13:39PM BE A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
07:13:40PM SIGNIFICANT PERSON -- ONLY ONE SIGNIFICANT PERSON ASSOCIATED
07:13:43PM WITH THE INFILL.
07:13:43PM PETER O. KNIGHT, 245 HYDE PARK BOULEVARD.
07:13:47PM THAT PROPERTY IS PERMANENTLY PROTECTED BECAUSE OWNED BY THE
07:13:50PM TAMPA HIS TO FOR CAL SOCIETY.
07:13:53PM NO ONE PROTECTED PROPERTIES IN THE INFILL THAT HAVE ANY
07:13:56PM SIGNIFICANT PERSONS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
07:13:58PM THE LAST IS WHERE MR. FERNANDEZ CITED 40% IS TOO LOW OF A
07:14:03PM PERCENTAGE NORTH OF THE EXPRESSWAY.
07:14:06PM WELL, IF YOU LOOK THE INFILL, FIRST OFF, 17 OF THE
07:14:09PM PROPERTIES ARE CONTRIBUTING AT 38.
07:14:11PM THAT IS ONLY 45%.
07:14:13PM IF YOU FACTOR OUT THE PROPERTY THAT WAS OWNED BY PETER O.
07:14:17PM KNIGHT WHICH WAS PERMANENTLY PROTECTED, YOU ARE DOWN TO 43%.
07:14:21PM SO WE ARE ONLY 3% ABOVE WHAT HE ALREADY REJECTED.
07:14:26PM WE ARE 12 POINTS BELOW THE 55% THAT IS THE TARGET.
07:14:30PM A.
07:14:31PM AND WE ARE NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:14:32PM WE ARE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
07:14:34PM AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOS I SUBMITTED ALONG WITH MY
07:14:37PM PACKAGE, LOOK AT THE ONES OF THE FACILITIES FOR THE
07:14:40PM EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY.
07:14:41PM THOSE ARE INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES.
07:14:43PM RIGHT THERE IN THE SIGHT OF ALL THE HOMES AROUND THEM.
07:14:48PM SO I THINK WE MADE A VERY GOOD CASE WITH OUR PETITION AND
07:14:52PM THE OF RESEARCH THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT THE AREA I REFER TO
07:14:56PM AS THE INFILL DOES NOT MEET ANY OF THE CRITERIA AT ALL AND
07:15:00PM SHOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM THE -- FROM THE AREA.
07:15:03PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS AS
07:15:07PM FAR AS THE TRANSITION AREA THE GENTLEMAN REFERRED TO
07:15:10PM TONIGHT.
07:15:10PM THERE ARE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.
07:15:13PM IF PROPERTIES ARE TORN DOWN THERE, THEY CAN'T BUILD A HUGE
07:15:17PM THING.
07:15:17PM THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE FOUR STORIES OR SOMETHING.
07:15:20PM THAT WILL MAKE A GREAT TRANSITION AREA TO HAVE SOME OF THE
07:15:23PM NICE HIGH END CONDOS BETWEEN THE EXPRESSWAY THERE.
07:15:26PM THAT WILL EVENTUALLY GO THERE IF IT IS NOT PROTECTED.
07:15:29PM IF YOU LOOK AT SPANISH TOWN CREEK, YES, THE INFILL PART OF
07:15:33PM SPANISH TOWN CREEK BUT NO RESIDENTIAL USE PROPERTIES.
07:15:35PM SINGLE-FAMILY.
07:15:37PM ALL THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTS OF SPANISH TOWN CREEK WILL
07:15:40PM BE PROTECTED IF YOU EXCLUDE THAT AND GO WITH THEIR AMENDED
07:15:43PM PLAN.
07:15:43PM DOBYVILLE.
07:15:45PM EASTERN BORDER OF ABOUT --O BYVILLE IS WILLOW, WESTERN
07:15:52PM PORTION IS WILLOW.
07:15:52PM NONE OF THE DOBYVILLE PROPERTY WILL BE EXCLUDED.
07:15:57PM NONE OF THEM ARE IN THE INFILL.
07:15:59PM OKAY.
07:16:00PM I AM TRYING TO GET THROUGH WITH THIS FOR SIX MINUTES.
07:16:06PM WE URGE YOU TO USE YOUR DISCRETION AND GO WITH THE AMENDED
07:16:10PM PLANS AS AMENDED BY THE APPLICANTS TONIGHT.
07:16:13PM WE HAD A LOT OF TALKS WITH THEM.
07:16:14PM THEY AGREED TO DO THAT.
07:16:15PM WE AGREED TO SUPPORT THAT AMENDED PLAN.
07:16:18PM THE SUPPORT IS RIGHT HERE AS LONG AS IT IS THE AMENDED PLAN.
07:16:21PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:16:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:16:24PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:16:29PM WADE McLEAN, ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WILLOW AND PLATT AT
07:16:33PM 307 SOUTH WILLOW.
07:16:34PM I'M HERE TODAY TO OPPOSE THE REZONING.
07:16:39PM AND I HAVE SUBMITTED A LETTER IN WRITING TO COUNCIL.
07:16:43PM BUT I AM NOT -- REPHRASE.
07:16:46PM I AM NOT OPPOSED TO HAVING RESIDENTIALLY THE MODIFICATION
07:16:51PM AND THE OVERLAY, BUT COMMERCIALLY, IT HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT
07:16:55PM ON OUR VALUES.
07:16:56PM AND I -- I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT.
07:16:59PM I DIDN'T BUY THE PROPERTY TO HAVE AFTER OVERLAY OF WHAT I
07:17:03PM COULD OR COULD NOT DO.
07:17:04PM THAT IS ACTUALLY WHY I BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY.
07:17:06PM I WOULD APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S SUPPORT IN JUST HAVING MY
07:17:09PM PROPERTY REMOVED -- I AM LITERALLY RIGHT AT THE CROSSTOWN
07:17:14PM EXIT.
07:17:14PM SO THE DOBY HOMES ARE GREAT.
07:17:19PM I WANT EVERYBODY HAPPY.
07:17:21PM BUT PLEASE LEAVE ME OUT.
07:17:22PM THANK YOU.
07:17:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:17:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS CANELLA HAS TWO NAMES.
07:17:42PM ROBIN REEVES.
07:17:44PM THANK YOU.
07:17:44PM JENNY SMITH.
07:17:46PM TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE.
07:17:48PM THANK YOU.
07:17:49PM >> MY NAME IS PAM CANELLA.
07:17:52PM I LIVE AT 604 SOUTH ORLEANS.
07:17:55PM MY FAMILY HOME OF 91 YEARS AND SIX GENERATIONS.
07:17:59PM THE RESIDENTS OF HYDE PARK ARE HERE TODAY NOT BECAUSE THERE
07:18:04PM IS A PROFIT TO BE MADE, BUT BECAUSE WE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT
07:18:07PM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:18:08PM THIS HISTORIC HYDE PARK BOUNDARY EXPANSION WILL BRING
07:18:12PM TOGETHER THE REMAINING FORGOTTEN AND LOST PIECES OF OUR
07:18:19PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
07:18:19PM TO COMPLETE OUR HISTORIC HYDE PARK DISTRICT
07:18:23PM INCLUDING DOBYVILLE.
07:18:24PM MUCH OF THE HISTORY OF THAT AREA THAT PLAYED SUCH A
07:18:27PM SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE EXPANSION OF TAMPA'S GROWTH HAS BEEN
07:18:32PM AND STILL IS BEING LOST TO NEW ZONING DESIGNATIONS AND
07:18:37PM DEMOLISHMENT.
07:18:39PM IT IS TIME TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT.
07:18:42PM MAKE THIS AREA PART OF HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT, TO
07:18:47PM PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE PAST, THE PRESENT, AND THE
07:18:50PM FUTURE GENERATIONS.
07:18:51PM IT IS OUR HISTORY THAT TIES US TOGETHER.
07:18:54PM BUT THIS IS NOT ONLY ABOUT HISTORICAL PRESENTATION.
07:19:00PM IT IS ALSO ABOUT OUR HE CAN GROWTH.
07:19:03PM THE CITY'S BUSINESSES -- ECONOMIC GROWTH.
07:19:08PM THE CITY BUSINESS LEADERS VIEW HISTORIC PRESERVATION AS A
07:19:16PM OBSTACLE TO PROGRESS AND A BARRIER TO THE CITY'S GROWTH
07:19:19PM RATHER THAN THE ECONOMIC ASSET THAT IT IS.
07:19:22PM HISTORIC DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO HAVE A POSITIVE AND
07:19:25PM STABILIZING EFFECT ON PROPERTY VALUE.
07:19:28PM IT IS ABOUT THE HISTORICAL CHARACTER OF THIS AREA.
07:19:32PM IT'S WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER,
07:19:35PM CREATING NEW FRIENDSHIPS.
07:19:36PM OUR MANY TREE CANOPY-LINED STREETS WITH STATELY MANSIONS,
07:19:44PM SHOTGUN AND BUNGALOW HOMES THAT LEAVE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD OF
07:19:48PM NOT ONLY HOMES BUT BOUTIQUES, RESTAURANTS AND COFFEE SHOPS.
07:19:51PM IT IS THIS ECLECTIC MAKE-UP OF OUR HISTORICAL AREA THAT
07:19:56PM TOURISTS COME TO VISIT.
07:19:58PM IT IS THE AMBIENCE CREATED BY THIS COLLECTION OF UNIQUE
07:20:02PM HOMES AND HISTORICAL BUILDINGS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT
07:20:05PM ATTRACTS PEOPLE TO HYDE PARK AND TO THE CITY OF TAMPA NOT
07:20:10PM MONUMENTAL PUBLIC BUILDINGS.
07:20:13PM THIS AREA BRINGS TOURISTS AND REVENUE TO OUR CITY BY HOSTING
07:20:17PM SPECIAL EVENTS, SUCH AS GASPARILLA.
07:20:20PM IN OUR AREA.
07:20:23PM THIS AREA'S PHYSICAL CHARACTER IS THE CONNECTION TO ITS
07:20:29PM ROOTS.
07:20:29PM IT IS WHAT IDENTIFIES HYDE PARK AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
07:20:34PM IF WE VIEW HISTORIC PRESERVATION AS A KEY COMPONENT IN THE
07:20:40PM CITY'S REVITALIZATION AND GROWTH INSTEAD OF AN ISOLATED
07:20:46PM FUNCTION, IT WILL ENABLE THE CITY'S HISTORIC CHARACTER TO BE
07:20:50PM HARNESSED MORE EFFECTIVELY, WHERE A FUTURE CAN BE SEEN WITH
07:20:55PM INNOVATION AND PRESERVATION LINKED.
07:21:01PM THE NATIONAL HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT EXTENDS TO KENNEDY
07:21:05PM BOULEVARD.
07:21:05PM WE HEARD THAT TONIGHT.
07:21:06PM AND THE LOCAL HYDE PARK DISTRICT'S PROPOSAL WAS TO INCLUDE
07:21:11PM THE AREAS UP TO THE SEMINOLE -- EXCUSE ME, THE SELMON
07:21:16PM EXPRESSWAY.
07:21:16PM CERTAIN OPPOSITIONS WERE MADE.
07:21:18PM WE WERE TOLD THAT IF WE COMPROMISED AND BROUGHT THE ORIGINAL
07:21:23PM PROPOSED BOUNDARY BACK TO PLATT, THOSE IN OPPOSITION WOULD
07:21:26PM SUPPORT THE HISTORIC HYDE PARK BOUNDARY EXPANSION.
07:21:30PM SO I ASK YOU TO PLEASE VOTE FOR THIS EXPANSION.
07:21:34PM SUPPORT THE RESIDENTS OF HYDE PARK AND OUR FELLOW
07:21:38PM NEIGHBORHOODS WHO HAVE SUPPORTED US IN OUR EFFORTS.
07:21:41PM THANK YOU.
07:21:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:21:45PM >> HI, LEA CARDIN.
07:21:50PM 311 SOUTH DELAWARE AVENUE.
07:21:52PM I AM ALSO THE VP OF SPANISH TOWN CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD
07:21:56PM ASSOCIATION.
07:21:56PM SO WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE -- A 1923 HOUSE IN 2006.
07:22:01PM WE SPENT ABOUT A YEAR RENOVATING IT TO PRESERVE THE
07:22:04PM HISTORICAL ESSENCE OF IT.
07:22:07PM AS SOON AS WE MOVED IN, NEIGHBORS CAME OVER DELIVERING FOOD.
07:22:10PM I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.
07:22:12PM TURNED OUT OUR HOUSE WAS A FRATERNITY HOUSE WHEN WE MOVED IN
07:22:17PM AND EVERYBODY WAS SO THRILLED THAT SOMEBODY MOVED IN WITH A
07:22:19PM BABY AS A FAMILY.
07:22:20PM OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN AN INFLUX OF
07:22:23PM DEVELOPERS KNOCKING DOWN HISTORIC HOUSES TO PUT IN MULTIUNIT
07:22:27PM DWELLINGS.
07:22:28PM WE MOVED INTO THE AREA BECAUSE WE LOVED THE CHARM OF THE
07:22:30PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE OLD HOUSES.
07:22:32PM THE NEW UNITS ARE NOT PRESERVING THE CHARACTER OF THE
07:22:35PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:22:35PM WHEN WE THINK OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE THINK OF OURSELVES AS
07:22:39PM HYDE PARK AND ALL THREE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN
07:22:43PM HYDE PARK HAVE WORKED TOGETHER TO DRIVE THIS INITIATIVE
07:22:45PM FORWARD.
07:22:46PM HYDE PARK IS ONE OF THE TOP PLACES THAT PEOPLE VISIT WHEN
07:22:50PM THEY COME TO TAMPA BECAUSE OF ITS CHARACTER AND BEAUTY.
07:22:53PM SIGNIFICANT PARTS OF DOBYVILLE ARE IN THE EXPANSION REQUEST.
07:22:57PM IT WILL BE SHAME TO USE ANY MORE OF THE HISTORICAL PIECES
07:23:02PM OF DOBYVILLE THAT ARE LEFT.
07:23:03PM WITH THAT, I WILL ASK YOU TO EXPAND THE DESIGNATION OF THE
07:23:08PM LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
07:23:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:23:10PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, SHAWN LATREL, PRESIDENT OF
07:23:17PM LATREL ARCHITECTURE.
07:23:19PM I WANT TO PRESENT YOU AS AN ARCHITECTURE FIRM.
07:23:22PM WE FULLY SUPPORT THE EXPANSION OF THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC
07:23:25PM DISTRICT BOUNDARIES AND WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF
07:23:28PM HISTORIC HOMES AND HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE VALUE THEY
07:23:31PM BRING TO THE LARGER COMMUNITY.
07:23:33PM TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
07:23:35PM WORK WITHIN HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT ON MANY OCCASIONS
07:23:40PM DATING BACK TO 20 YEARS AT THIS POINT.
07:23:41PM WE FOUND THAT THE CITY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF AND
07:23:45PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO BE BOTH PROFESSIONAL AND
07:23:48PM REASONABLE.
07:23:49PM AS ARCHITECTS.
07:23:50PM WE APPRECIATE THEIR BALANCED APPROACH AND GOALS OF HISTORIC
07:23:54PM PRESERVATION IN COMPARISON TO EACH PROJECT'S SPECIFIC
07:23:59PM CONSTRAINTS AND OVERALL FEASIBILITY.
07:24:00PM THIS BALANCE OF PRACTICALITY AND PRESERVATION THAT BRINGS ME
07:24:04PM HERE THIS EVENING TO SHOW MY FULL SUPPORT FOR THIS
07:24:07PM EXPANSION.
07:24:08PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:24:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:24:11PM >> MY NAME IS ROGER HALL.
07:24:16PM I LIVE AT 303 SOUTH NEWPORT.
07:24:19PM AND I AM VOICING MY OPPOSITION TO THIS EXPANSION.
07:24:24PM AND IT IS MORE OF A TECHNICAL POINT.
07:24:28PM I DON'T DISCOUNT THAT THERE ARE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AND
07:24:33PM HISTORIC STRUCTURES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:24:37PM BUT WITH ALL THE NOTICES THAT I SAW POSTED, I HEARD OF A
07:24:45PM MEETING OR A PUBLIC MEETING IN OCTOBER, I THINK.
07:24:52PM THAT WAS THE ONLY NOTICE THAT I GOT UNTIL I GOT THIS NOTICE
07:24:58PM THAT IT WAS BEING PRESENTED FOR APPROVAL.
07:25:01PM AND MY POINT IS, THAT I NEVER DESIGNATED ANYONE TO SPEAK FOR
07:25:08PM MY PROPERTY.
07:25:10PM BY NEVER GAVE ANYBODY THE RIGHT TO APPLY FOR THIS
07:25:14PM APPLICATION FOR MY PROPERTY.
07:25:17PM IF THEY WANT TO DO IT FOR THEIRS, GREAT.
07:25:20PM BUT NOT FOR MINE.
07:25:22PM SO I AM IN OPPOSITION TO THIS.
07:25:26PM AND I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
07:25:29PM THANK YOU.
07:25:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:25:31PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, REESE RIGGLE.
07:25:40PM I LIVE IN THE PROPOSED AREA OF EXPANSION, 312 SOUTH WILLOW
07:25:44PM AVENUE, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE A HISTORIC DOBYVILLE HOME.
07:25:48PM I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EMPHASIZE A FEW POINTS WHY I
07:25:52PM SUPPORT THE EXPANSION EFFORT OF THE LOCAL HISTORIC AREA AND
07:25:55PM TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS IS AND WHAT THIS ISN'T.
07:25:57PM AS YOU HEARD, THIS QUALIFIES.
07:25:59PM ONE OF THE ONLY REMAINING AREA IN THE CITY WITH THE
07:26:02PM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE -- STRUCTURES NECESSARY TO HAVE THIS
07:26:06PM LOCAL HISTORIC OVERLAY.
07:26:07PM IT PRESERVES THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF DOBYVILLE WITH
07:26:13PM HIS NAMESAKE HOUSE BEING THIS AREA.
07:26:16PM THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY EXPERTS FROM YOUR CREDENTIALED CITY
07:26:20PM STAFF TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND RESIDENTIALED ARCHITECTURAL
07:26:25PM AND HISTORIC EXPERTS AND LICENSED REALTORS.
07:26:28PM THIS IS WIDELY POPULARED AS EVIDENCED BY ALL THREE
07:26:32PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OVER LAST FOUR TO FIVE -- OR FIVE
07:26:35PM TO SIX YEARS MEETING WITH THEIR MEMBERS AS LONG AS CITY
07:26:39PM STAFF TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
07:26:40PM AND TO GET THEIR INPUT IN ORDER TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON
07:26:44PM BEHALF OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
07:26:46PM THIS IS NOT NIMBY IN MY OPINION.
07:26:49PM THIS IS YES, IN MY BACK YARD.
07:26:52PM PEOPLE WANT THIS FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:26:54PM THIS IS NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT.
07:26:55PM EVERY NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE CAN BE REDEVELOPED FOR THE
07:26:59PM HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THIS PROPERTY AND HAS TO CONFORM TO
07:27:04PM THE GUIDELINES.
07:27:04PM THE VALENCIA SEVEN STORIES IS A GOOD EXAMPLE HOW DENSITY CAN
07:27:11PM PLAY A ROLE IN HISTORIC AREAS.
07:27:12PM NOT ALL ABOUT RESIDENTIAL AND SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, THIS
07:27:16PM PRESERVES STRUCTURES BUILT BEFORE 1933 OF WHATEVER
07:27:20PM DESIGNATION, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL OR RESIDENTIAL.
07:27:22PM IT IS NOT ALL ABOUT HOMES.
07:27:24PM THE OLD BREAD FACTORY, WHICH IS AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING IS A
07:27:29PM GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT USE.
07:27:31PM AND THIS IS NOT AN IMPEDIMENT TO PROPERTY VALUES.
07:27:35PM AS MANY REALTORS HAVE NOTED THAT ON BOTH COMMERCIAL AND
07:27:41PM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, REAL ESTATE VALUE IMPROVES IN
07:27:45PM HISTORIC AREAS.
07:27:46PM WE ALL -- WE ALL OWN A LITTLE PIECE OF THIS CITY AS
07:27:50PM TAXPAYERS.
07:27:51PM THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO NOT LET THIS OPPORTUNITY
07:27:55PM SLIP BY OF PROTECTING A PIECE OF HISTORY IN OUR CITY.
07:27:59PM SO WITH THAT, I SUPPORT THE EFFORT AND WISH FOR YOUR VOTE.
07:28:03PM THANK YOU.
07:28:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:28:05PM >> GOOD EVENING, MARY LOU BAILEY.
07:28:09PM 9012 SOUTH OREGON AVENUE.
07:28:12PM I WANT TO START BY REPRESENTING THE HISTORIC
07:28:16PM PRESERVATION INC, THE THIRD AGENCY IN THE DISTRICT.
07:28:20PM I'M HERE TO SAY THAT MY BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY SPO FOR THE
07:28:25PM EXPANSION.
07:28:26PM WE WOULD LIKE TO PROTECT THE AREA FROM FURTHER DETERIORATION
07:28:32PM AND FROM THE DEMOLITION OF CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES, ACTION
07:28:36PM OF THE IT HE SIGN GUIDELINES WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM
07:28:38PM RENOVATION AND NEW CONSTRUCTION AND HAVE A PUBLIC NOTICE OF
07:28:41PM ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT ARE A REALLY GOOD GOVERNANCE FRANKLY
07:28:45PM FOR A COMMUNITY SUCH AS OURS.
07:28:47PM WE REVIEWED THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND.
07:28:50PM IN FALL SUPPORT OF IT.
07:28:51PM WE ASK THAT YOU PROTECT TAMPA COLLECTIVELY.
07:28:57PM THIS IS A SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS LEFT OUT.
07:28:59PM IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT.
07:29:00PM LET'S GET BACK AS WHOLE.
07:29:04PM TAKING MY HAT OFF AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT REPRESENTING
07:29:07PM THAT SUPPORT, I LIVED IN EIGHT DIFFERENT STATES AND ONE
07:29:12PM FOREIGN COUNTRY AND TRAVELED THE WORLD EXTENSIVELY FOR MY
07:29:15PM CAREER.
07:29:15PM I AM NOT LEAVING HYDE PARK.
07:29:17PM IT IS A FANTASTIC SPECIAL PLACE THAT NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED
07:29:21PM AND I THINK I CAN SAY THAT FOR A LOT OF CREDIBILITY LIVED
07:29:24PM AND TRAVELED IN ALL THE PLACES IN MY NOT TOO LONG LIFE.
07:29:28PM ANYWAY, I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I HAVE DONE A LOT OF
07:29:31PM RENOVATIONS ON HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT BUNGALOW AND NEW
07:29:36PM CONSTRUCTION AND NOT AN IMPOSITION.
07:29:38PM DO A LITTLE HOMEWORK UP FRONT.
07:29:40PM GET A LITTLE COOPERATION.
07:29:42PM AND EVERYBODY IS THE BETTER OFF.
07:29:43PM I REJECT THAT IT IS FACTUALLY INACCURATE THAT A BUSINESS
07:29:46PM CANNOT BE SUCCESSFUL IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
07:29:52PM INACCURATE THAT MULTIFAMILY CANNOT BE SUCCESSFUL IN A
07:29:58PM HISTORIC DISTRICT.
07:29:59PM I WANT YOU EXCLUDE THAT.
07:30:02PM I HAD THE HONOR PRECOVID, MEDAL OF HONOR CONVENTION CAME.
07:30:07PM THE GREAT HEROES OF OUR NATION.
07:30:09PM I WAS APPROACHED BY THE HOST COMMITTEE THEY WANTED TO SHOW
07:30:11PM OFF TAMPA.
07:30:12PM THEY SAID MARY LOU, PUT TOGETHER A PERSONAL HOME TOUR FOR
07:30:18PM THE MEDAL OF HONOR, I SAID I NEED ANOTHER PROJECT LIKE A
07:30:23PM HOLE IN THE HEAD, YES, THE MEDAL OF HONOR WINNERS.
07:30:26PM OF COURSE I WILL DO IT.
07:30:27PM HOW SPECIAL HYDE PARK IS.
07:30:30PM OUR NATION'S GREATEST WANTED TO TOUR HYDE PARK TO SEE WHAT
07:30:34PM MADE IT SPECIAL.
07:30:35PM ONE LITTLE STORY TO ADD ME MOTION TO OUR CASE.
07:30:38PM TRY NOT REPEAT TO YOUR REQUEST, ANYBODY HERE IN SUPPORT OF
07:30:43PM THE IT IS STRICT AND IN THE ROOM, WILL YOU PLEASE STAND.
07:30:46PM PLEASE VOTE TO SUPPORT THE EXPANSION OF THE LOCAL HISTORIC
07:30:53PM DISTRICT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
07:30:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:30:55PM >> HELLO, CAM POTTER.
07:30:59PM AND I LIVE AT 407 SOUTH NEWPORT AVENUE.
07:31:03PM 30 YEARS AGO THIS MONTH, MY WIFE AND I MOVED INTO OUR HOUSE,
07:31:08PM WHICH IS IN THE EXPANSION DISTRICT.
07:31:10PM SINCE THAT TIME, WE HAVE SEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHANGE.
07:31:15PM I WANT TO MAKE THREE QUICK POINTS IF I CAN.
07:31:18PM NUMBER ONE, I HAVE BEEN PART OF THE ASSOCIATION SO PART OF
07:31:21PM THE HYDE PARK SPANISH TOWN CREEK ASSOCIATION.
07:31:25PM AND I HONESTLY GET VERY FRUSTRATED WHEN PEOPLE SAY I DIDN'T
07:31:29PM KNOW ABOUT THE MEETINGS AND HEAR ABOUT THIS.
07:31:31PM THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR TWO YEARS.
07:31:33PM WE AT OUR EXPENSE HAS HANDED OUT FLIERS.
07:31:37PM PUT UP YARD SIGNS.
07:31:38PM HAD THREE MEETINGS FOR THE LIGHTHOUSE OF THE BLIND.
07:31:41PM THREE MEETINGS AT KATE JACKSON PARK.
07:31:43PM SO IF THERE IS AN ARGUMENT THAT SOMEBODY DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT
07:31:47PM THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PARTICIPATING OR THEY DON'T HAVE
07:31:49PM THEIR EYES OPEN.
07:31:50PM WE HAVE PUT SO MUCH ENERGY AND EFFORT TO GET COMMUNITY
07:31:53PM AWARENESS AROUND THIS AND WE WANTED COMMUNITY INPUT.
07:31:56PM POINT ONE.
07:31:57PM POINT TWO, I ALSO WANT TO REITERATE THE FACT THAT THIS IS
07:32:01PM JUST NOT ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
07:32:04PM THAT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
07:32:05PM BUT AS I SAID BEFORE, MORE THAN THAT, IT IS ABOUT PRESERVING
07:32:09PM THE CHARACTER OF WHAT MAKES TAMPA INTERESTING.
07:32:11PM PRESERVING YOU KNOW A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.
07:32:16PM WHY PEOPLE COME TO TAMPA TO RESIDE.
07:32:17PM WHY PEOPLE COME HERE FOR TOURISM.
07:32:20PM IT GOES BEYOND THE BORDERS OF THIS EXPANSION.
07:32:24PM IT INCLUDES ALL OF TAMPA.
07:32:26PM IT BENEFITS ALL OF TAMPA BY PRESERVING THIS CHARACTER, THIS
07:32:32PM CHARM, THIS HISTORY.
07:32:33PM THEN FINALLY I WANT TO BRING UP THE SENSE OF URGENCY TO
07:32:36PM THIS.
07:32:37PM THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE.
07:32:38PM SINCE I HAVE BEEN THERE IN 30 YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF
07:32:43PM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES BEING DEMOLISHED.
07:32:46PM THAT IS ACCELERATING.
07:32:48PM WE HAVE SEEN AN UPTICK OF REQUESTS FOR DEMOLITION.
07:32:51PM THIS IS GOING FASTER.
07:32:53PM AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE I DON'T THINK WE WILL MEET
07:32:56PM SOME OF THE CRITERIA.
07:32:58PM THAT IS ALSO EXACERBATED BY PROPERTY VALUE.
07:33:01PM IN MY BLOCK IN WILLOW, NEWPORT AND I THINK IT EXTENDS A
07:33:05PM LITTLE BIT ON BOTH SIDES, MANY OF THE PROPERTY -- OF THE
07:33:08PM LOTS THAT SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES SIT ON ARE ZONED FOR
07:33:14PM MULTIFAMILY AND THE ECONOMIC PRESSURE, THE VALUE OF THE
07:33:18PM PROPERTY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE
07:33:21PM SOMEBODY CAN'T REALLY AFORKED -- OR THE ECONOMICS OF BUYING
07:33:24PM A HOUSE OR RENOVATE IT VERSUS SELLING IT WITH THE
07:33:31PM DEVELOPMENT OF A MULTIFAMILY HOME, MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY WHEN
07:33:34PM IT IS ALREADY ZONED FOR THAT IS JUST TREMENDOUS.
07:33:36PM I THINK THAT WILL ACCELERATE THE DETERIORATION OR THE CHANGE
07:33:41PM OF THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:33:42PM THANK YOU.
07:33:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:33:44PM >> GOOD EVENING, LAURA EVERETT.
07:33:47PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:33:49PM I LIVE 310 SOUTH DELAWARE AVENUE WHICH MAKES ME THE RESIDENT
07:33:54PM OF THE PROPOSED EXPANSION AREA.
07:33:56PM I AM ALSO PROFESSIONALLY A CERTIFIED URBAN PLANNER AND
07:34:01PM PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY I SUPPORT THE EXPANSION.
07:34:04PM I THINK THERE ARE TWO COMPELLING REASONS FOR YOU TO SUPPORT
07:34:07PM IT AS WELL.
07:34:07PM ONE IS THE PROTECTION OF THE PLATT STREET GATEWAY.
07:34:10PM THERE IS A RENAISSANCE GOING ON ON WATER STREET IN CHANNEL
07:34:13PM DISTRICT AND WE ARE A GATEWAY INTO THAT AREA.
07:34:16PM AND I CAN YOU CAN HELP US TO HELP PROTECT THAT GATEWAY INTO
07:34:19PM THAT AIR AREA.
07:34:21PM THE SECOND IS TO REMEDY THE OMISSION OF DOBYVILLE FROM THE
07:34:27PM ORIGINAL EXPANSION AREA.
07:34:28PM YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REMEDY THAT.
07:34:30PM I THINK YOU HAVE A OBLIGATION TO REMEDY THAT THIS EVENING.
07:34:34PM AGAIN, WITH THAT, I WILL ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE
07:34:36PM EXPANSION AND THANK YOU.
07:34:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:34:40PM >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS MARK LINSKY.
07:34:47PM MY FAMILY AND I OWN THREE PARCELS.
07:34:49PM THE LOCATION 503 WEST PLATT STREET.
07:34:54PM WE OWNED THESE PROPERTIES FOR OVER TWO DECADES.
07:34:57PM WE AND THE OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE
07:35:02PM NORTH SIDE OF PLATT STREET STRONGLY SUPPORT THE AMENDED
07:35:09PM APPLICATION THAT HAS BEEN FILED BY THE HYDE PARK SPANISH
07:35:13PM TOWN CREEK CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND BY THE HISTORIC HYDE PARK
07:35:18PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
07:35:19PM I WANT TO THANK ALL THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THESE TWO
07:35:23PM ORGANIZATIONS AND ASSOCIATIONS FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND
07:35:27PM SUPPORT.
07:35:29PM IT IS A LOT EASIER PUTTING IN MONEY.
07:35:32PM IT IS A LOT HARDER PUTTING IN TIME.
07:35:34PM AND THEY HAVE PUT THE TIME IN.
07:35:35PM I ALSO WANT TO THANK DENNIS FERNANDEZ, YOUR MANAGER HERE, OF
07:35:39PM THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION
07:35:43PM BUREAU FOR HIS EFFORTS.
07:35:45PM IT IS A DIFFICULT JOB HE HAS WITH DIFFICULT ISSUES TO DEAL
07:35:49PM WITH.
07:35:49PM SO I ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE APPROVE THE AMENDED
07:35:54PM APPLICATION THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED BY THESE TWO
07:35:57PM ASSOCIATIONS.
07:35:58PM I WISH YOU A HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
07:36:00PM THANK YOU.
07:36:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:36:01PM >> GOOD EVENING, TOBIN GREEN.
07:36:06PM I WOULD LIKE TO CLAIM MY WIFE'S DEANNA GREEN'S TIME.
07:36:10PM I SUBMITTED IT EARLIER.
07:36:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU SUBMITTED THE PAPERWORK.
07:36:14PM >> YES, SIR.
07:36:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE ONE EXTRA MINUTE.
07:36:19PM >> I WILL TRY TO MAKE IT QUICK.
07:36:21PM RESIDENT OF SPANISH TOWN CREEK 400 ORLEANS AND MEMBER OF THE
07:36:26PM CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND AN ARCHITECT, AND I AM A COMMITTEE MEMBER
07:36:29PM AND MASTER OF GREEN ARCHITECTURE.
07:36:31PM I AM OWNER OF AN AWARD-WINNING AGENCY.
07:36:35PM AND I AM DOING MY BEST TO PUT MY MONEY WHERE MY MOUTH IS
07:36:39PM DESIGNING AND BUILDING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUILDING UP SMALL
07:36:41PM AND IMPORTANT PORTION NEGLECTED IF NOT FORGOTTEN FOR SO
07:36:45PM LONG.
07:36:45PM I DESIGN AND BUILT MY OWN HOME HERE.
07:36:47PM WHILE IT IS COMPLETELY UNIQUE WILL NOT PASS TODAY'S ARC
07:36:52PM GUIDELINES.
07:36:52PM I WAS DELIGHTED HOW WELL IT WAS RECEIVED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD
07:36:55PM AND MANY OF ITS LONG-TIME RESIDENTS.
07:36:57PM GIVEN THE UNIQUENESS OF THE DESIGN, I HAD MANY SLEEPLESS
07:37:02PM NIGHTS HOW IT WOULD BE RECEIVED.
07:37:03PM LONG-TIME RESIDENTS, MATRIARCHS APPRECIATED WHAT I WAS DOING
07:37:09PM BRINGING SOMETHING SO NEW AND MEANINGFUL TO THIS
07:37:12PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:37:12PM ON A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL, THE YEAR I DESIGNED AND BUILT THE
07:37:16PM HOME, AWARDED BY THE TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.
07:37:20PM TOOK AWARD BEST IN CLASS IN ARCHITECTURE, BEST IN CLASS CURB
07:37:24PM APPEAL, BEST CHA CLASS CATEGORY AND GRAND DIAMOND FOR
07:37:31PM PROJECT OF THE YEAR.
07:37:32PM TO UNDERSTAND MEANINGFUL DESIGN AND APPROPRIATE DESIGN
07:37:35PM STANDARDS.
07:37:35PM I BELIEVE THIS PRESERVATION AND PROGRESSION.
07:37:37PM I AM HAVING A HARD TIME EMBRACING STANDARDS THAT WOULD, AS
07:37:40PM THEY ARE PRESENTED TODAY, DISCOURAGE THIS TYPE OF URBAN
07:37:43PM PROGRESSIVE FORWARD-THINKING AND AWARD-WINNING ARCHITECTURE
07:37:47PM AND DESIGN.
07:37:48PM I WANT TO STATE LOUD AND CLEAR I AM AN ADVOCATE OF
07:37:52PM HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
07:37:54PM THIS APPROACH ON THIS MATTER IS IRONICALLY OUTDATED.
07:37:58PM WE SHOULD SAY THAT STRUCTURE IS WORTH SAVING AND HOW WE
07:38:01PM DETERMINE THAT IS WORTH AN OVERHAUL.
07:38:03PM JUST BECAUSE IT IS BUILT BEFORE A TERN TIME PERIOD DOESN'T
07:38:07PM GIVE IT CART BLANCHE.
07:38:09PM DISCOURAGING PROGRESS OF A HOME WITH ZERO DESIGN BECAUSE IT
07:38:16PM WAS BUILT IN 1920 IS CLOSED MINDED.
07:38:19PM AND ADDITIONS TO STRUCTURES SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND
07:38:22PM PRIOR TO DEEMING A STRUCTURE WORTHY.
07:38:24PM THE COSTS OUTWEIGH THE INTENTIONS HERE.
07:38:26PM INTEGRITY AND PROGRESS SHOULD COME FIRST IF WE WANT TO USHER
07:38:31PM OUR NEIGHBORHOODS INTO A BRIGHT AND MEANINGFUL FUTURE.
07:38:35PM DESIGN STANDARDS, WITNESSING A GROWTH IN THE CITY AND
07:38:40PM SPEARHEAD IT STRONG INTO THE FUTURE.
07:38:42PM I SHARE -- THREW ME OFF THERE.
07:38:45PM PROTECTION DOES INDEED MATTER.
07:38:47PM AND BEING FOR EARNED TO ADHERE TO CERTAIN DESIGN STANDARDS
07:38:51PM IS A GREAT THING.
07:38:52PM I SHARE RESPECT FOR THE FUNDAMENTAL INTENTIONS OF AARC AND
07:38:57PM THE SAME FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND BOTH AIM TO SERVE A
07:39:00PM GREAT PURPOSE.
07:39:01PM WE AGREE ON THAT.
07:39:02PM ARC OF PROFIT-DRIVEN FIRST DEVELOPERS WITH NO CONCERN FOR
07:39:07PM DESIGN INTEGRITY.
07:39:08PM I GOT A LOT MORE TO SAY.
07:39:09PM I COULD REALLY GO INTO THAT.
07:39:13PM BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, HISTORY IS MEANT TO BE BELT UPON
07:39:15PM AND ADVANCED, NOT RE-CREATED WITH CHEAP MATERIALS FOR THE
07:39:20PM SAKE OF APPEASING MEMORIES -- THAT CARRIES A LOT OF PAINFUL
07:39:25PM SOCIAL LUGGAGE.
07:39:26PM WE MUST GROW AND TAKE A RICH NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE DOBYVILLE AND
07:39:31PM PREBUILD IT IN SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL AND UNIQUE TO HONOR ITS
07:39:35PM UNIQUE.
07:39:35PM I AM PUTTING MY MONEY WHERE MY MOUTH IS BUILDING TWO NEW
07:39:40PM PROJECTS IN DOBYVILLE.
07:39:42PM REUSING AND REPURPOSING STRUCTURAL TIMBER, FLOOR AND PAY
07:39:47PM HOMAGE.
07:39:47PM AND PUTTING THE BRONZE PLAQUE ON ONE OF THE BUILDINGS TO
07:39:51PM PERMANENTLY HONOR THE FAMILY THAT CALLED THAT PLACE HOME
07:39:53PM SINCE THE 1940s.
07:39:54PM YOU KNOW, DISCOURAGING PROGRESSIVE THOUGHT PROCESS AND
07:40:00PM DESIGN.
07:40:00PM I THINK IT IS KIND OF LAZY AND SHORTSIGHTED.
07:40:03PM I THINK AND I HOPE -- I HOPE WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS.
07:40:07PM I ASK FOR A VOTE OF NO TO THE EXPANSION OF THE CURRENT
07:40:11PM GUIDELINES AND HEAVILY ENCOURAGE THE EXPLORATION AND
07:40:14PM IMPLEMENTATION OF NEW PRESERVATION AND DESIGN STANDARDS.
07:40:17PM THANK YOU.
07:40:18PM I GOT 20 SECONDS, SO I WOULD SAY IF YOU GUYS DO DECIDE TO
07:40:22PM VOTE YES ON THIS, TAKING THE NORTH SIDE OF PLATT OUT IS
07:40:25PM RIDICULOUS.
07:40:25PM IF YOU ARE GOING TO GO FOR IT, YOU NEED TO GO FOR IT.
07:40:28PM PLATT IS A MAIN THOROUGHFARE INTO THE CITY AND ANNOUNCED
07:40:31PM THAT THE RIVERWALK WILL BE EXPANDED TO COME UP TO ROME TO GO
07:40:35PM NORTH.
07:40:35PM A THOROUGHFARE WITH HAD IS TO I CAN GUIDELINES AN ONE SIDE
07:40:41PM AND NOT ON THE OTHER, MAKES NO SENSE.
07:40:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:40:44PM >> GOOD EVENING, LINDA SAUL-SENA.
07:40:46PM MY ADDRESS IS 157 BISCAYNE.
07:40:50PM AND I AM VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE
07:40:53PM EXPANSION.
07:40:55PM I AM NOT REPRESENTING MYSELF TONIGHT.
07:40:57PM I AM REPRESENTING THE BOARD OF THE CENTER FOR ARCHITECTURE
07:41:00PM AND DESIGN.
07:41:01PM THIS IS THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT WING OF THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF
07:41:05PM ARCHITECTS.
07:41:06PM OUR BOARD VOTED TO SUPPORT THIS EXPANSION.
07:41:10PM AND WE ARE ADVOCATES FOR GOOD DESIGN AND GOOD HISTORIC
07:41:15PM PRESERVATION.
07:41:16PM THIS PROPOSAL SEEMS TO EMBRACE BOTH.
07:41:19PM YEARS AGO -- YEARS AND YEARS AGO, I WAS INVOLVED IN THE
07:41:23PM ORIGINAL CREATION OF THE HYDE PARK PLAN, WHICH LED TO THE
07:41:27PM LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
07:41:29PM IT WAS A MISTAKE AT THAT TIME NOT TO EMBRACE THE ENTIRE
07:41:33PM BOUNDARY PROPOSED -- OR CREATED BY THE NATIONAL HISTORIC
07:41:37PM DISTRICT IN THIS AREA.
07:41:39PM TONIGHT, YOU HAVE AS COUNCILMEMBERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
07:41:44PM RESPECT THE LARGER AREA OF HYDE PARK, INCLUDING DOBYVILLE,
07:41:50PM AND THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
07:41:51PM THANK YOU.
07:41:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:41:54PM I WANT TO ASK MISS SAUL- SENA A QUESTION.
07:41:59PM >> GOOD EVENING, I AM PATRICK CIMINO.
07:42:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HANG ON ONE SECOND.
07:42:04PM MISSSAUL-SENA, YOU HAVE A QUESTION THAT IS GOING TO BE
07:42:11PM PROPOSED TO YOU.
07:42:12PM >> I AM SORRY, LINDA.
07:42:14PM >> BY THE WAY, THERE WAS GUM ON THE SEAT.
07:42:16PM >> ON IT OR SUNDAY IT.
07:42:18PM >> ON IT.
07:42:18PM I SAT ON IT.
07:42:19PM YES.
07:42:20PM WE NEED TO MONITOR THE -- ANYWAY.
07:42:22PM YES, QUESTION?
07:42:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MA'AM.
07:42:26PM I KNOW THAT YOU ARE A PERSON WHO KNOWS HISTORY AND
07:42:31PM ARCHITECTURE, WORK AND DESIGN.
07:42:33PM AND YOU KNOW, I AM FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA OVER THERE,
07:42:38PM BECAUSE I GREW UP ON BRISTOL, IN THE OLD-FASHIONED ICE CREAM
07:42:44PM PLACE IS RIGHT THERE.
07:42:44PM SO I USED TO WALK THERE.
07:42:46PM I REMEMBER WHEN MY BROTHER FELL ON THE RAILROAD TRACK AND IN
07:42:50PM MESSED UP HIS FACE IN THE BACK END.
07:42:52PM I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA VERY STRONGLY.
07:42:55PM I AM WONDERING THAT THE COMMENT THAT THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE
07:42:57PM YOU MADE OF THE WHOLE AREA VERSUS THE THOROUGHFARE.
07:43:01PM I GOT KIND OF CONFUSED IN THAT, BECAUSE HE IS SAYING THAT
07:43:04PM THE EXPANSION SHOULD BE THE TOTAL PIECE OF IT, BUT WE ARE
07:43:08PM LEAVING OUT A PORTION OF THE THOROUGHFARE?
07:43:12PM >> I BELIEVE HE -- HE -- I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT HIS INTENT
07:43:16PM WAS.
07:43:16PM I CAN SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT WHAT IS PRESENTED TO YOU
07:43:19PM TONIGHT USES PLATT STREET AS THE DIVIDING LINE.
07:43:24PM YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A LINE SOMEWHERE, AND I FEEL THAT THE
07:43:28PM CONSISTENT RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS SUPPORTED BY THE
07:43:30PM NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS WITH PLATT AT THE DIVIDING LINE
07:43:35PM IS A GOOD PROPOSAL, AND I SUPPORT THAT.
07:43:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
07:43:39PM >> GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN.
07:43:43PM MY NAME IS PATRICK CIMINO.
07:43:46PM I AM PRESIDENT OF THE HISTORIC HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD
07:43:49PM ASSOCIATION.
07:43:49PM ONE OF THE PETITIONERS.
07:43:51PM AND WE FULLY SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT TONIGHT.
07:43:54PM I DO WANT TO MAKE AN EMPHASIS ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.
07:44:00PM HYDE PARK IS A NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:44:02PM HYDE PARK IS A COMMUNITY.
07:44:04PM WE ARE NOT JUST SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, WE ARE NOT JUST
07:44:08PM MULTIFAMILY HOMES, WE ARE NOT JUST OFFICES.
07:44:12PM WE ARE BUSINESSES.
07:44:13PM BURNS IS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:44:14PM WE HAVE OTHER BUSINESSES.
07:44:16PM THE ESPECIALLY CURE IAN ANNEX IS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:44:19PM SO WE HAVE -- THE EPICURIA ANNEX IS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:44:26PM WE HAVE MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
07:44:28PM AZEELE HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.
07:44:32PM MAINLY OFFICES.
07:44:33PM THERE ARE VALUE IN HYDE PARK.
07:44:34PM PEOPLE MAINTAIN THOSE BUILDINGS.
07:44:37PM A BUILDING IN THE VICINITY OF MAGNOLIA AND BAYSHORE THAT THE
07:44:42PM OWNERS SPENT BUYING IT AND RENOVATE IT ROUGHLY $1,000 A
07:44:48PM SQUARE FOOT.
07:44:48PM THAT IS KIND OF CONTRIBUTING VALUE.
07:44:51PM THERE IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
07:44:53PM THERE IS VALUE IN THIS.
07:44:54PM NO ONE IS LOSING EVERYTHING.
07:44:56PM JUST TO RECAP ONE THING, THIS PROCESS STARTED SEVEN YEARS
07:45:00PM AGO WITH MEETINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:45:01PM WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS.
07:45:04PM WE HAD TO NOTICE TWICE FOR THE HPC BECAUSE WE HAD TO REPEAT
07:45:08PM THE HEARING.
07:45:09PM AS MRS. -- AS MISS HATLEY MENTIONED, WE SENT OUT 600 AND
07:45:15PM SOMETHING NOTICES FOR THIS MEETING.
07:45:16PM PEOPLE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE, AND WE HAVE MET
07:45:20PM WITH PEOPLE AND WE HAVE LISTENED.
07:45:22PM FOR THAT -- IT IS TIME TO -- TO ACCEPT THIS PROPOSAL AS
07:45:26PM AMENDED TONIGHT.
07:45:27PM AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE A ARE,C STAFF, PARTICULARLY
07:45:33PM DENNIS AN 'LANE THAT WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY WITH US.
07:45:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:45:38PM >> GOOD EVENING, AARON ALBREN.
07:45:48PM I WAS SWORN IN.
07:45:49PM PRESIDENT OF THE HYDE PARK SPANISH CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
07:45:53PM THE TROUBLEMAKER YOU MIGHT SAY.
07:45:55PM I WANTED TO NOTE JUST BECAUSE IT CAME UP THAT ALL THE YEARS
07:45:59PM AND THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT GONE INTO THE PUBLIC OUTREACH
07:46:02PM AND EDUCATION ON THIS EXPANSION, I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN
07:46:05PM INVOLVED IN.
07:46:05PM BOTH ASSOCIATIONS HAVE HOSTED MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE
07:46:11PM MEETINGS OVER THE YEAR IN COORDINATION WITH THE A ARE, C, TO
07:46:15PM ELICIT QUESTIONS AND ANSWER QUESTIONS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
07:46:18PM WE ARE PART OF THE HISTORIC HYDE PARK HOME TOUR.
07:46:22PM MAYBE STOPPED BY FROM THE COUNCIL AND SAW US US THERE.
07:46:27PM RODNEY KITE POWELL DID A GOOD JOB.
07:46:30PM I SPOKE A LITTLE BIT.
07:46:32PM I THOUGHT I DID A GOOD JOB TOO.
07:46:34PM I HAD MULTIPLE SIGNS.
07:46:37PM MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS.
07:46:38PM I AM SURE THE COUNCIL CAN APPRECIATE THAT.
07:46:41PM WE HAD ARTICLES IN THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES," "83 DEGREES"
07:46:48PM "CREATIVE LOAFING."
07:46:50PM CBS, BAY NEWS 9 AND OUR LOCAL ABC AFFILIATE.
07:46:55PM I, MYSELF, THIS DISCUSSIONS WITH DEVELOPERS AND MULTIPLE
07:47:00PM DEVELOPERS ON THE TOPIC.
07:47:01PM AND COMPRISE OF THE PEOPLE WHO POPULATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE
07:47:05PM ASKING YOU TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS AND APPROVE THE
07:47:08PM APPLICATION.
07:47:08PM HELP US PRESERVE A PIECE OF TAMPA HISTORY IN RECOGNIZING
07:47:12PM THIS IMPORTANT PRESERVATION EFFORT OF A HISTORICALLY
07:47:15PM MARGINALIZED AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
07:47:19PM APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.
07:47:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:47:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION OF ALL THREE
07:47:27PM NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS.
07:47:27PM YOU SAY YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED PLAN.
07:47:30PM YOU ARE ALL THREE LEAVING THE NORTHERN PORT OF PLATT STREET
07:47:33PM OUT?
07:47:38PM >> ON BEHALF OF HYDE PARK SPANISH TOWN, I AM THE PRESIDENT,
07:47:43PM YES, THAT'S CORRECT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:47:47PM >> OUR BOARD SUPPORTED THAT AS WELL.
07:47:51PM >> THE BOARD SUPPORTS THE OTHER TWO BOARDS.
07:47:53PM WE RECOGNIZE THAT TIME IS TAKING THINGS AWAY FROM US AND WE
07:47:58PM DON'T WANT ANY MORE TAKEN AWAY.
07:48:03PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:48:05PM I AM REPRESENTING 605 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
07:48:08PM THEY WISH TO BE EXCLUDED FROM THE DISTRICT.
07:48:10PM AND I THINK YOU HEARD FROM SOME OF THE OTHER LAW OFFICES
07:48:13PM THAT ARE LOCATED ALONG BOULEVARD.
07:48:15PM THEY HAVE A MODERN BUILDING.
07:48:17PM AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE INCLUDED IN -- OR SUBJECT TO THE
07:48:23PM VARIOUS DEVELOPMENT GUIDELINES AS ESTABLISHED BY THE HYDE
07:48:27PM PARK DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
07:48:28PM I JUST STARTED.
07:48:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE CONTINUE.
07:48:34PM >> ONE OF THE OTHER STREETLIGHTS -- AND I NOTICED IF YOU
07:48:38PM LOOK AT THIS MAP, I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED -- I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED
07:48:46PM THE AREAS WHERE YOUR CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES ARE.
07:48:50PM THERE ARE TWO VERSUS TEN OR 12 THAT ARE -- THAT ARE
07:48:58PM NONCONTRIBUTING.
07:48:58PM THAT IS ON THE WEST END AND ON THE EAST END.
07:49:01PM THERE ARE ONLY TWO OVER HERE.
07:49:05PM SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU ADJUST THE MAP SO THAT THESE
07:49:08PM OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT
07:49:12PM GUIDELINES AS ESTABLISHED BY THE -- BY THE DISTRICT.
07:49:15PM AND I WANT TO SHOW YOU -- I DROVE -- I NOTICE WILLOW SHOWS A
07:49:21PM LOT OF DIFFERENT CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES HERE, BUT I WANT TO
07:49:28PM -- I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT THOSE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES
07:49:31PM LOOK LIKE.
07:49:31PM THESE ARE REDEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES.
07:49:33PM THEY ARE APARTMENTS.
07:49:34PM THEY ARE CONDOS.
07:49:35PM AND I AM NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, STAFF SHOULD PROBABLY ANSWER
07:49:42PM THIS QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THE USE THAT THEY ESTABLISH BY
07:49:46PM -- BY LOOKING TO SEE CONTRIBUTING VERSUS NONCONTRIBUTING
07:49:50PM STRUCTURES WERE UPDATED BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS A
07:49:54PM DATED USE AND CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES VERSUS NONCONTRIBUTING
07:50:02PM STRUCTURES MAP.
07:50:02PM I DON'T -- I CAN PAUSE.
07:50:04PM 605 BOULEVARD.
07:50:09PM >> 605 SOUTH BOULEVARD IS ALREADY IN THE EXISTING BOUNDARY
07:50:13PM OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
07:50:15PM IT IS NOT IN THE EXPANSION AREA.
07:50:17PM JUST TO CLARIFY THAT.
07:50:19PM IT IS DOWN HERE.
07:50:19PM [LAUGHTER]
07:50:27PM WELL, I GUESS THEY ARE IN.
07:50:28PM [LAUGHTER]
07:50:33PM YOU KNOW, THEY RECEIVE THESE NOTICES AND SO --
07:50:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BACK TO THE ROOM FOR YOU, MR. MICHELINI.
07:50:40PM BACK OF THE ROOM.
07:50:41PM [LAUGHTER]
07:50:44PM ANY.
07:50:45PM ANYWAY, I AM IN FAVOR OF CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE BEING
07:50:51PM INCLUDED IN THE MAP.
07:50:52PM I SUGGEST THAT STAFF LOOK AT THE CONTRIBUTING VERSUS
07:50:56PM NONCONTRIBUTING CONCENTRATIONS AND WHEN THEY HAVE A LARGE
07:50:59PM NUMBER OF CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES TO ELIMINATE THEM FROM
07:51:02PM CONSIDERATION ON THAT MAP.
07:51:03PM SO THANK YOU.
07:51:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:51:06PM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF I SEE NO ONE ELSE STANDING TO GET
07:51:10PM BEHIND MISS POYNOR.
07:51:14PM MISS POYNOR WILL BE THE -- I NOW SEE A WOMAN STANDING
07:51:19PM THERE.
07:51:19PM SO SHE IS NOW DESIGNATED AS THE CLEANUP.
07:51:24PM IN A BASEBALL SENSE.
07:51:26PM >> I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE THIS LONG.
07:51:30PM I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE VERY FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING
07:51:34PM THAT WE WENT TO WAS A MEETING FOR THIS LAST JULY.
07:51:38PM SORRY, MISS POYNOR.
07:51:41PM MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
07:51:45PM I HAD NO INTENTION OF SPEAKING THIS EVENING, BUT I WANTED TO
07:51:47PM MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNEW IF CARROLL ANN AND I FOUND OUT IT
07:51:53PM IN SOG AND YOU DIDN'T FIND OUT NOW, SORRY, NOT SORRY.
07:51:58PM I WANT TO POINT OUT THIS STRUCTURE RIGHT HERE.
07:52:00PM IT WAS DEMOLISHED 60 DAYS AGO.
07:52:02PM THE FAMILY WHO LIVED IN THE HOUSE LIVED IT IN FOR 35 YEARS.
07:52:06PM THEY WERE PLUMBERS.
07:52:07PM THEY TOOK VERY GOOD CARE OF THEIR HOME.
07:52:10PM A DEVELOPER PURCHASED IT AND RIPPED IT TO THE GROUND.
07:52:13PM IT WAS BUILT IN 1911.
07:52:15PM THAT MEANS WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 30 STRUCTURES LEFT IN PORT
07:52:20PM TAMPA THAT ARE HISTORIC.
07:52:22PM WHAT THESE FOLKS ARE TRYING TO DO SHOULD BE DONE FOR EVERY
07:52:27PM INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY THAT IS HISTORIC IN THIS CITY.
07:52:32PM SO WHY WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN HOMES STANDING UP
07:52:37PM HERE SAYING I DIDN'T KNOW.
07:52:38PM WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, I AM SORRY, YOU DON'T LIVE THERE.
07:52:42PM I AS A PROPERTY MANAGER ONLY MANAGE PROPERTIES FOR
07:52:46PM HOMEOWNERS, NOT FOR INVESTORS.
07:52:47PM WHY?
07:52:48PM BECAUSE WHEN YOU OWN A HOME, THAT IS WHERE YOUR HEART IS.
07:52:51PM YOUR SOUL IS.
07:52:53PM AND EVEN WHEN YOU LEAVE IT, IT IS STILL YOUR HEART AND SOUL.
07:52:56PM THINK ABOUT THE TIMES YOU HAVE DRIVEN BY THE HOUSE WHERE YOU
07:52:59PM LIVED WHEN URN A KID.
07:53:01PM AND THAT IS WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SUSTAIN.
07:53:04PM AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STANDING UP HERE CRYING THE BLUES
07:53:08PM ABOUT IT, THEY DON'T LIVE THERE.
07:53:10PM IT IS NOT WHERE THEIR HEART AND SOUL IS.
07:53:12PM DO I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM, NOPE.
07:53:15PM >> MY NAME IS ANN ALTMAN.
07:53:24PM 2909 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
07:53:26PM I LIVED IN HYDE PARK FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW.
07:53:29PM AND I SERVED ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE HISTORIC HYDE
07:53:34PM PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
07:53:34PM AND EVERYBODY THAT HAS SPOKEN BEFORE ME HAS SAID ALL THE
07:53:40PM SAME THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY STANDING UP HERE.
07:53:42PM BUT I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT ONE BIG QUESTION JUST CONTINUED
07:53:46PM TO HANG IN MY MIND.
07:53:48PM AND THE GENTLEMAN WHO JUST SPOKE BEFORE US CLARIFIED IT.
07:53:54PM WE LIVE IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
07:53:57PM NOT A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, ALTHOUGH IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD,
07:54:01PM IT IS A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
07:54:02PM AND IN THIS DISTRICT ARE SO MANY BUSINESSES AND SO MANY
07:54:07PM NEIGHBORHOODS AND SO MANY HOMES, ETC.
07:54:10PM AND YET I KEEP SAYING, WHY ARE PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO LIVE OR
07:54:15PM TO BE AFFILIATED OR CLOSE TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OPPOSE AS
07:54:22PM BUSINESS PEOPLE TO BEING A PART OF WHAT ACTUALLY MAKES THIS
07:54:26PM DISTRICT SO SPECIAL.
07:54:27PM AND YOU REALLY NAILED IT FOR ME.
07:54:30PM HE SAID WE DON'T WANT WANT TO BE RELEGATED TO THE
07:54:36PM RESPONSIBILITY OF LIVING UP TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
07:54:39PM GUIDELINES AND THE GOALS THAT MAKE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AS
07:54:44PM SPECIAL AS IT CONTINUES TO BE.
07:54:45PM SO I SAY TO THAT, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT IS SUBSTANTIVE
07:54:50PM OR SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE OF A GOOD REASON TO NOT LET THIS
07:54:54PM PROCESS MOVE FORWARD AND GET IT RESOLVED TONIGHT.
07:54:58PM SO THANK YOU.
07:54:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:55:01PM ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?
07:55:04PM IF NOT, MR. CONSTANTINO, I SEE YOU ON OUR SCREEN.
07:55:10PM IS MISS MATZ THERE ALSO SO I CAN GET YOU BOTH SWORN IN AT
07:55:18PM THE SAME TIME?
07:55:19PM >>CLERK: NO, SIR, SHE IS NOT -- I AM SORRY, SHE IS.
07:55:22PM HOLD ON.
07:55:23PM OKAY.
07:55:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS MATZ, ARE YOU THERE?
07:55:36PM MISS MATZ, ARE YOU WITH US?
07:55:39PM PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA ON AND UNMUTE YOURSELF.
07:55:41PM MR. CONSTANTINO.
07:55:48PM PLEASE RAISE YOUR
07:55:54PM RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
07:55:56PM [SWEARING IN]
07:56:00PM PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF, MR. CONSTATINO.
07:56:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CONSTANTINO, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
07:56:12PM WE CAN NOT HEAR YOU.
07:56:13PM PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
07:56:15PM >> MR. CONSTANTINO, THERE IS A RED MIC ON PANEL.
07:56:21PM CLICK ON THAT.
07:56:24PM >> THANK YOU.
07:56:25PM YES, I DO.
07:56:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:56:28PM >> EVERYTHING I SAY WILL BE TRUE.
07:56:30PM FIRST OF ALL, I AM APPROACHING AN ISSUE OF LAND USE.
07:56:37PM BUT I CAN ALSO SAY I LIVE ON DAVIS ISLAND.
07:56:41PM I HAVE BEEN THERE 40 YEARS.
07:56:43PM A HISTORIC AREA SHOULD BE EXPANDED.
07:56:47PM I AM CHANGING THE SUBJECT THOUGH.
07:56:49PM THE SUBJECT I WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND THE
07:56:54PM REST OF THE COUNCIL, IS THE USE OF LAND IN TAMPA AS IT
07:57:01PM APPLIES TO OR ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE.
07:57:08PM FDOT PLANS TO DEMOLISH THE NORTHBOUND I-275 HOWARD
07:57:18PM FRANKLAND BRIDGE AND THEY PLAN TO DO THAT IN '26.
07:57:21PM AND WE THINK IT SHOULD BE REPURPOSED.
07:57:25PM AND THE LAND ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THE NORTH SIDE OF I-275
07:57:33PM SHOULD BE SET ASIDE AS PART OF THE PARCEL WHERE YOU CAN PUT
07:57:38PM CHARGING STATIONS -- YOU CAN PUT PARKING.
07:57:41PM YOU CAN PUT CAN KNOW PIECE AND PARKING.
07:57:46PM AND THAT IS THE BEST USE FOR THAT LAND.
07:57:48PM THERE WILL BE MORE -- HOPEFULLY IT IS CALLED REPURPOSING
07:57:54PM THE I-275 BRIDGE AND I AM HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL AT SOME
07:57:58PM POINT MAY WANT TO CREATE A WORKSHOP TO LOOK AT THIS
07:58:02PM PROPERTY.
07:58:02PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:58:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:58:04PM IS MISS MATZ ON THE LINE?
07:58:09PM >>CLERK: CHAIR, MISS MATZ IS ON THE LIEN BUT HAS NOT ENABLED
07:58:15PM HER AUDIO OR VIDEO.
07:58:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:58:18PM MISS HATLEY, YOU NOW HAVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL, IF YOU WISH.
7:58:28PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
7:58:29PM I'LL PUT THIS MAP BACK UP.
7:58:31PM IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THE PROPERTIES ON THE WEST SIDE, I
7:58:37PM BELIEVE, OF SOUTH BOULEVARD ARE COMMERCIAL AND SHOULDN'T BE
7:58:42PM INCLUDED.
7:58:43PM BUT AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP, THERE ARE PROPERTIES ON THE
7:58:46PM EAST SIDE OF SOUTH BOULEVARD AND THEN A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH
7:58:51PM ON BOTH SIDES OF SOUTH BOULEVARD THAT ARE IN THE EXISTING
7:58:55PM HISTORIC DISTRICT.
7:58:56PM THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT THOSE PROPERTIES, COMMERCIAL OR
7:59:00PM OTHERWISE, HAVE BEEN NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY BEING INCLUDED
7:59:04PM IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
7:59:05PM IN FACT, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE TONIGHT BEFORE YOU THAT THERE
7:59:09PM IS A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO ANY PROPERTIES OR VALUES FOR BEING
7:59:14PM INCLUDED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
7:59:15PM I THINK THE STAFF REPORT SPOKE TO THAT AS WELL THAT BEING
7:59:22PM INCLUDED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT HAS A POSITIVE IMPACT ON
7:59:26PM PROPERTY VALUES.
7:59:27PM I LIVE OUT IN THE SUBURBS AND WE'RE SUBJECT TO DEED
7:59:30PM RESTRICTIONS.
7:59:31PM PEOPLE MOVE OUT THERE ON PURPOSE TO BE UNDER DEED
7:59:35PM RESTRICTIONS BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE, AND RIGHTLY SO, I THINK
7:59:37PM THE EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT SOME RESTRICTIONS ON PROPERTY HELPS
7:59:42PM TO STABILIZE COMMUNITIES AND HELPS TO STABILIZE AND EVEN
7:59:46PM INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES.
7:59:48PM THESE RESTRICTIONS OR GUIDELINES IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT
7:59:52PM DON'T HAVE THE KIND OF RESTRICTIONS THAT EVEN A HOMEOWNER
7:59:57PM ASSOCIATION HAS IN A DEED-RESTRICTED COMMUNITY.
8:00:01PM ENTITIES NOT LIKE THAT.
8:00:02PM AND I THINK SOME OF THE OPPOSITION IS JUST MISINFORMED OR
8:00:06PM UNDERINFORMED ABOUT WHAT A HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION
8:00:10PM MEANS FOR THEIR PROPERTIES.
8:00:12PM FOR EXAMPLE, I HAD SOMEONE CALL ME THIS WEEK WHO IS IN THE
8:00:15PM EXPANSION AREA AND OWNS A PROPERTY AND WANTED TO KNOW
8:00:18PM WHETHER HE WOULD HAVE TO START PAYING HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION
8:00:21PM ASSESSMENTS IF HIS PROPERTY IS INCLUDED.
8:00:25PM SO PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS.
8:00:27PM ALSO, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE PROPERTY OWNERS
8:00:32PM AND THEY DID NOT AUTHORIZE THE APPLICANTS TO REPRESENT THEM
8:00:35PM IN THEIR PROPERTIES, BUT THIS IS NOT THAT KIND OF PROCESS.
8:00:38PM THIS IS NOT A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING.
8:00:41PM THIS IS A HEARING THAT IS MORE LIKE AN AREA-WIDE REZONING OR
8:00:45PM A LAND USE DESIGNATION.
8:00:47PM AND COURTS HAVE HELD THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE THE
8:00:51PM AUTHORITY TO PUT REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS ON PROPERTY USE
8:00:56PM SUCH AS ZONING AND LAND USE DESIGNATION.
8:00:58PM SO THIS IS SOMETHING MORE LIKE THAT.
8:01:01PM IT ISN'T THE KIND OF APPLICATION WHERE THE PROPERTY OWNER
8:01:04PM HAS TO AUTHORIZE AN AGENT TO REPRESENT THEM IN A
8:01:09PM QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCESS.
8:01:10PM SO JUST IN CLOSING THEN, THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE
8:01:17PM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AND BEFORE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
8:01:20PM COMMISSION SHOWS THAT THIS PROPOSED EXPANSION AREA DOES MEET
8:01:27PM THE CITY'S CRITERIA IN THE CITY CODE TO BE DESIGNATED AS AN
8:01:32PM HISTORIC DISTRICT.
8:01:33PM SO WE ASK THAT YOU DO THAT, THAT YOU TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION
8:01:39PM AND THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED TONIGHT AND GRANT THIS
8:01:41PM REQUEST.
8:01:43PM THANK YOU.
8:01:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
8:01:46PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:01:50PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:01:51PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
8:01:53PM ANY OPPOSED?
8:01:55PM THANK YOU.
8:01:55PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
8:01:58PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:01:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND READ THIS
8:02:02PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
8:02:06PM THIS IS THE AMENDED PLAN WHICH WOULD EXCLUDE OR SET THE
8:02:09PM BOUNDARY AT PLATT AS MENTIONED.
8:02:12PM SO I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
8:02:15PM CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
8:02:18PM DESIGNATING THE EXPANSION OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THE HYDE PARK
8:02:18PM HISTORIC DISTRICT AS A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, REPEALING
8:02:23PM ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH,
8:02:26PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
8:02:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
8:02:31PM MANISCALCO.
8:02:32PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:02:35PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
8:02:36PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:02:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A FEW THINGS, IF YOU
8:02:40PM DON'T MIND.
8:02:41PM THE APPLICANT HAS MET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE
8:02:48PM COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE HYDE PARK
8:02:50PM HISTORIC DISTRICT SHOULD BE EXPANDED TO PLATT STREET AND THE
8:02:55PM OTHER BOUNDARIES NOTED BECAUSE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
8:02:58PM CRITERIA OUTLINED IN CODE SECTION 27-257 FOR THE FOLLOWING
8:03:03PM REASONS: IT ACHIEVED ITS SIGNIFICANCE DURING THE PERIOD OF
8:03:07PM HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE AS DELINEATED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER
8:03:11PM OF HISTORIC PLACES GUIDELINES OR AS ESTABLISHED IN THE
8:03:15PM NOMINATING PURSUANT TO THOSE GUIDELINES AND HAS QUALITY OF
8:03:19PM SIGNIFICANCE IN AMERICAN, STATE OR LOCAL HISTORY,
8:03:21PM ARCHITECTURE, ARCHAEOLOGY, ENGINEERING AND CULTURE WHICH IS
8:03:25PM PRESENT IN DISTRICTS, SITES, BUILDINGS, STRUCTURES, AND
8:03:28PM OBJECTS THAT POSSESS INTEGRITY OF LOCATION, DESIGN, SETTING,
8:03:33PM MATERIALS, WORKMANSHIP, FEELING AND ASSOCIATION.
8:03:36PM AND THE DISTRICT HAS A CHARACTER AS GEOGRAPHICALLY DEFINABLE
8:03:40PM AREA POSSESSING A SIGNIFICANT CONCENTRATION OF BUILDINGS
8:03:43PM WHICH ARE WELL DESIGNED AND OTHER STRUCTURE, SITES AND
8:03:46PM OBJECTS ALL OF WHICH ARE UNITED BY PAST EVENTS OR BY A PLAN
8:03:50PM OR PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT.
8:03:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
8:04:03PM >> EXCUSE ME.
8:04:03PM I APOLOGIZE.
8:04:04PM TO THE CENTER LINE PLAN.
8:04:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I NEED A MOTION TO REOPEN.
8:04:15PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:04:18PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:04:19PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:04:25PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY
8:04:27PM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
8:04:28PM IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES -- READS THE ORDINANCE FOR FIRST
8:04:33PM READING BASED UPON THE AMENDED APPLICATION THAT'S BEFORE
8:04:37PM CITY COUNCIL, I WILL AMEND THE EXHIBIT THAT WAS ATTACHED TO
8:04:43PM THE ORDINANCE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, THE LEGAL
8:04:47PM DESCRIPTION.
8:04:47PM I APOLOGIZE.
8:04:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I ACCEPT THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION.
8:04:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: REVISIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
8:04:52PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I WILL CORRECT BASED UPON THE
8:04:55PM MOTION MADE BY CITY COUNCIL.
8:04:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
8:04:57PM NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE, PLEASE.
8:05:00PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:05:02PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:05:04PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:05:06PM ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, FURTHER QUESTIONS?
8:05:09PM I'M OF TWO MINDS WHEN IT COMES TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
8:05:12PM I WANT TO SAVE AS MANY HOMES AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
8:05:17PM ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS, HOW ARE THE YOUTH OF TODAY
8:05:22PM SUPPOSED TO CREATE THEIR OWN HISTORY IF WE KEEP PRESERVING?
8:05:30PM I WILL NOT GIVE EVIDENCE.
8:05:32PM I WILL MAKE THIS STATEMENT.
8:05:34PM IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT BACK IN THE LATE '70s AND EARLY
8:05:39PM '80s WERE THESE MAGNIFICENT HOMES, WERE CHOPPED INTO FOUR,
8:05:43PM FIVE DIFFERENT DWELLINGS AND ONE STRUCTURE WERE
8:05:49PM PROSTITUTION, DRUGS, AND CRIME WERE GOING IN AND WATCHING
8:05:53PM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CLAW ITS WAY BACK TO THE PRESTIGE THAT IT
8:05:58PM IS TODAY, I WILL GLADLY HELP PRESERVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:06:04PM BUT, AGAIN, THE YOUTH OF TODAY NEED TO CREATE THEIR OWN
8:06:09PM HISTORY.
8:06:09PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
8:06:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
8:06:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
8:06:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:06:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
8:06:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:06:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
8:06:30PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8:06:33PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JANUARY 5, 2023
8:06:39PM AT 9:30 A.M.
8:06:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SIX.
8:06:49PM VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
8:06:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'LL TAKE AN
8:06:51PM ADJOURNMENT FOR FIVE MINUTES JUST SO WE CAN CHANGE OVER THE
8:06:54PM ROOM.
8:06:57PM [RECESS]
8:08:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TAMPA CITY COUNCIL SESSION IS BACK IN
8:18:50PM SESSION.
8:18:50PM ROLL CALL.
8:18:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
8:18:54PM >> VIERA?
8:18:54PM MANISCALCO?
8:18:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
8:18:57PM >> HURTAK?
8:18:58PM GUDES?
8:19:00PM MIRANDA?
8:19:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
8:19:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
8:19:02PM THANK YOU.
8:19:05PM MR. HUSAIN, I BELIEVE MR. BENTLEY IS GOING TO ASK FOR
8:19:09PM SOMETHING.
8:19:09PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: ZAIN HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:19:13PM MARK BENTLEY IS REQUESTING FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15, CASE
8:19:18PM REZ-22-125, ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 9, 2023.
8:19:24PM THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
8:19:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. BENTLEY, I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY HEARD
8:19:28PM WHAT HAS HAPPENED EARLIER THIS EVENING.
8:19:30PM HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU CONTINUED THIS CASE ALREADY?
8:19:32PM >> FIRST OF ALL, MARK BENTLEY, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET,
8:19:36PM 33602.
8:19:39PM GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
8:19:41PM I DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AMONG THE CHAOS TO KIND OF
8:19:44PM INTERVENE AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
8:19:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULDN'T CALL IT CHAOS.
8:19:49PM >> CONTROLLED CHAOS.
8:19:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT WAS ALL SMOOTH SAILING.
8:19:53PM >> BUT IN ANY EVENT, WE'RE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE.
8:19:56PM THE BASIS IS, NUMBER ONE, A FULL BOARD AND SECONDARILY OUR
8:20:03PM CLIENT, DUE TO UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES, IS NOT AVAILABLE
8:20:05PM TONIGHT AND HE INTENDED TO TESTIFY.
8:20:07PM IT IS OUR FIRST REQUEST, AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR
8:20:10PM CONSIDERATION.
8:20:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:20:11PM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS
8:20:14PM CASE NUMBER 15, FILE REZ-22-125?
8:20:18PM THE CONTINUANCE ONLY.
8:20:22PM MR. SEAL.
8:20:27PM >> BRIAN SEAL, TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT.
8:20:30PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
8:20:32PM YES, TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THE CONTINUANCE, I WAS HERE TO
8:20:36PM SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING, THE CONTINUANCE ITSELF,
8:20:39PM I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS APPLICANT DESERVES A CONTINUANCE.
8:20:44PM IF IT IS GRANTED, IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, I WOULD
8:20:47PM ASK THAT YOU STIPULATE THAT THEY MUST SIT DOWN WITH THE
8:20:54PM ADJOINING HOMEOWNER AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
8:20:56PM JUST READ THIS QUICKLY FOR YOU BECAUSE IT PERTAINS TO -- FOR
8:21:03PM THE CONTINUANCE ONLY.
8:21:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT YOU ARE NOT TESTIFYING TO ANY OF THE
8:21:06PM FACTS OR EVIDENCE.
8:21:08PM >> NO.
8:21:08PM IT'S ABOUT THE CONTINUANCE AND THAT STIPULATION THAT I'M
8:21:10PM ASKING FOR THAT YOU PLACE ON THIS.
8:21:12PM SO MYSELF AND THE ADJOINING HOMEOWNER HAVE E-MAILED THE
8:21:16PM APPLICANT AND HIS ATTORNEYS NUMEROUS TIMES OVER THE
8:21:20PM PRECEDING MONTHS WITH ZERO RESPONSE.
8:21:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE YOU WANT TO MAKE AN
8:21:28PM OBJECTION FOR THE RECORD.
8:21:29PM IF YOU PLEASE JUST VERY BRIEFLY.
8:21:32PM >> LET HIM FINISH AND I'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND.
8:21:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN -- MR. CHAIRMAN?
8:21:40PM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
8:21:42PM THIS HAS COME UP WITH THE STAFF OF LAND DEVELOPMENT
8:21:45PM COORDINATION.
8:21:46PM MY UNDERSTANDING IS AND I DON'T KNOW THE TIME FRAME BUT THEY
8:21:49PM ARE COMING BACK WITH LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY WITH, BECAUSE I
8:21:52PM BELIEVE THIS WAS COUNCIL'S REQUEST, TO DO SOMETHING OF A
8:21:55PM NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING OR A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR A
8:21:57PM COMPATIBILITY MEETING.
8:21:58PM I DON'T RECALL WHAT IT'S CALLED, BUT THAT IS COMING BACK.
8:22:01PM PRESENTLY IN YOUR CODE, THERE IS NO OBLIGATION PRESENTLY FOR
8:22:06PM THE REQUIREMENT OF THE HEARING -- EXCUSE ME, THE REQUIREMENT
8:22:09PM OF MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
8:22:11PM THAT'S WHY THIS HAS TO BE CURED THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT
8:22:14PM WE'RE GOING THROUGH NOW.
8:22:15PM JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW THAT.
8:22:17PM CERTAINLY, THEY CAN VOLUNTEER TO DO IT PRESENTLY AND IT'S TO
8:22:23PM THEIR ADVANTAGE BASED ON WHAT HAS COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
8:22:27PM COUNCIL HAS ASKED IN THE PAST FOR THEM TO MEET WITH THE
8:22:30PM NEIGHBORS AND THAT IS CERTAINLY COUNCIL'S PURVIEW TO BE ABLE
8:22:36PM TO DO THAT.
8:22:37PM BUT IN TERMS OF A REQUIREMENT THAT DOES NOT YET EXIST IN THE
8:22:42PM CODE AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S GOING TO BE FORTHCOMING.
8:22:48PM >> DO I UNDERSTAND CAN'T REQUIRE BUT THEY CAN ASK IT?
8:22:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, AS OF NOW THERE'S NO LEGAL
8:22:57PM REQUIREMENT TO THE CODE FOR THEM TO HAVE TO DO THAT.
8:23:02PM THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL CAN RAISE
8:23:06PM WITH MR. BENTLEY AND MR. BENTLEY CAN RESPOND, CERTAINLY THAT
8:23:10PM IS THE CASE IF THAT'S YOUR REQUEST.
8:23:12PM >> HERE'S WHY I'M ASKING IT.
8:23:13PM I THINK WE CAN ALL SAVE OURSELVES, APPLICANT INCLUDED A LOT
8:23:18PM OF TROUBLE IF WHEN THIS IS HEARD NEXT IF THEY SIT DOWN AND
8:23:23PM UNDERSTAND THE REASONS FOR SUCH OPPOSITION AND IT WILL SAVE
8:23:25PM YOUR TIME AT THE NEXT REZONING.
8:23:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THINK HE HEARD YOU.
8:23:29PM ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
8:23:32PM SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE ONLY.
8:23:35PM >> YEAH, I'M JOSH TEVVI.
8:23:38PM I LIVE AT 2706 NORTH MORGAN STREET, ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER
8:23:41PM TO THIS PROJECT.
8:23:42PM I WANT TO GO ON RECORD BEING THAT I WANT TO KEEP THIS GOING
8:23:45PM AND FIGURE OUT THE ENDING RESULT OF THIS.
8:23:48PM I DO NOT WANT A CONTINUANCE.
8:23:50PM I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY.
8:23:52PM IT'S JUST KIND OF GONE ON TOO LONG.
8:23:54PM I HAVE ALSO TRIED TO ADDRESS THIS WITH THE COUNCIL AND --
8:23:58PM WITH THE COUNSEL AND THEY HAVE DECLINED TO REPLY.
8:24:01PM I'M BASICALLY SECONDING WHAT MR. SEAL SAID.
8:24:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE ONLINE.
8:24:10PM HIGGLY.
8:24:10PM JUSTINE DeJESUS.
8:24:14PM AND ALBO.
8:24:16PM ARE YOU ONLINE?
8:24:23PM >>THE CLERK: NONE OF THOSE SPEAKERS ARE CURRENTLY ONLINE.
8:24:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU SAID NO SPEAKERS OR ONLINE.
8:24:30PM >>THE CLERK: CORRECT.
8:24:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
8:24:32PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
8:24:34PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:24:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ZAIN, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST CONTINUOUS
8:24:43PM MR. BENTLEY IS ASKING FOR THE CASE?
8:24:45PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: CORRECT.
8:24:46PM IT IS THE FIRST CONTINUANCE REQUEST.
8:24:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LIKE MR. SHELBY SAID, WE CAN'T REQUIRE YOU
8:24:53PM OR THE APPLICANT TO MEET WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE, BUT IF
8:24:59PM GRANTED, I WOULD HOPE -- I KNOW YOU ARE ALWAYS A JUST MAN TO
8:25:04PM HAVE YOUR CLIENT SIT DOWN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
8:25:08PM COMPROMISE WHAT YOU NEED TO DOING IS BACK FORWARD.
8:25:12PM I DON'T LIKE WHEN WE DON'T WORK TOGETHER WITH EVERYBODY.
8:25:15PM I KNOW YOU'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT.
8:25:17PM I'M HOPING --
8:25:18PM >> I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS.
8:25:20PM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
8:25:23PM I THINK IT IS AN INACCURATE PICTURE OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
8:25:26PM ANY EVENT, I APPRECIATE THAT.
8:25:28PM IF WE COULD MOVE ON, I APPRECIATE THE CONTINUANCE TO
8:25:31PM FEBRUARY 9th.
8:25:32PM IT HASN'T BEEN GOING ON TOO LONG.
8:25:34PM OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS OUR FIRST REQUEST, CONTRARY TO WHAT MR.
8:25:37PM TEVVI SAID.
8:25:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO GRANT.
8:25:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO GRANT CONTINUANCE BY COUNCILMAN
8:25:43PM GUDES, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:25:48PM >> FEBRUARY 9 I BELIEVE.
8:25:52PM >> FEBRUARY 9 AT 5:01 P.M. AGENDA ITEM 15, REZ-22-125, ANY
8:26:04PM FURTHER DISCUSSION?
8:26:05PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE?
8:26:07PM ANY OPPOSED?
8:26:08PM THANK YOU.
8:26:09PM >> THANK YOU.
8:26:11PM TAKE CARE.
8:26:18PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5
8:26:21PM AND 6.
8:26:22PM STEVE MICHELINI IS HERE AND HE'S READY TO MAKE A DECISION.
8:26:36PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: COUNCIL, I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET A
8:26:38PM RESPONSE FROM MY CLIENT.
8:26:40PM THEY ARE IN CALIFORNIA.
8:26:42PM SO I GUESS I HAVE TO GO FORWARD.
8:26:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
8:26:48PM HAVE A SEAT.
8:26:49PM WE'LL CALL YOU WHEN YOUR NUMBER COMES UP.
8:26:51PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I WOULD BEG THE INDULGENCE OF COUNCIL TO
8:26:56PM RECONSIDER THE CONTINUANCE WE'VE ASKED FOR.
8:26:58PM I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY VOTED, BUT IT PUTS ME IN A VERY
8:27:03PM DIFFICULT POSITION BECAUSE I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION LIKE THAT
8:27:06PM ON MY OWN TO WITHDRAW AND NEITHER OF MY TWO EXPERTS ARE
8:27:12PM AVAILABLE THIS EVENING.
8:27:14PM I WOULD REQUEST -- THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, I REALLY
8:27:18PM DON'T CARE FOR THIS.
8:27:19PM I'VE BEEN IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH ANN ALIS MYER.
8:27:25PM I DESERVE THE SAME RESPECT THAT I PROVIDE FOR THEM.
8:27:31PM AND THE ISSUE IS THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN CONSTANT CONTACT.
8:27:35PM AND I CALLED THEM AS SOON AS IT WAS APPARENT A WEEK AGO THAT
8:27:39PM WE HAD TO WORK SOME ISSUES OUT WITH THE STAFF THAT WE COULD
8:27:42PM NOT WORK OUT BEFORE THIS HEARING.
8:27:45PM AND I FULLY ADVISED THEM OF THAT.
8:27:48PM I ALSO FULLY ADVISED THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE PROPERTY
8:27:52PM OWNER ACROSS THE STREET AS SOON AS IT WAS APPARENT THAT WE
8:27:55PM COULDN'T GO FORWARD.
8:27:56PM I KNOW YOU'VE CONSIDERED SOME HARDSHIPS FOR OTHER CASES THIS
8:28:00PM EVENING, AND I THINK THAT WE SURELY WOULD QUALIFY.
8:28:04PM THIS IS NOT SOME TRICK.
8:28:07PM THERE ARE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT.
8:28:11PM AND I WOULD JUST ASK THAT MAYBE THAT PERHAPS YOU WOULD
8:28:14PM RECONSIDER THAT DENIAL.
8:28:16PM BUT THANK YOU.
8:28:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:28:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MICHELINI, I HEARD YOU SAY ABOUT A
8:28:28PM HARDSHIP, BUT I GUESS FOR ME WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH,
8:28:32PM SIR, IS THAT YOUR CLIENT AND YOURSELF KNEW WE WERE HAVING A
8:28:39PM HEARING.
8:28:40PM SO I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW AT ANOTHER STATE AND NOT
8:28:48PM PREPARED TO COME TODAY.
8:28:50PM KNOWING IT'S GOING INTO A SECOND HEARING.
8:28:52PM AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I MOVE TO DENY ON THE PREMISE OF IT, SIR.
8:28:57PM I WANT TO BE FAIR TO YOU AS WELL, SIR.
8:29:00PM I DON'T SEE THE HARDSHIP WHEN WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS TWICE
8:29:04PM AND YOUR CLIENT KNEW.
8:29:06PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: WHAT HAPPENED, COUNCIL, WE HAD TO APPLY
8:29:11PM FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION, AND THAT REQUIRED A SIGNIFICANT
8:29:15PM AMOUNT OF TIME, AND THAT PORTION ALSO REQUIRED THAT WE MAKE
8:29:19PM AMENDMENTS TO THE SITE PLAN.
8:29:21PM WE MADE AMENDMENTS TO THE SITE PLAN AND THE STAFF CAME BACK
8:29:24PM AND SAID YOU'RE INSIDE OF THE 30-DAY WINDOW, AND WE CAN'T
8:29:29PM ACCEPT THAT.
8:29:30PM SO YOUR STAFF REPORT IS BASED UPON CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE
8:29:34PM TO THE SITE PLANS THAT YOU WILL NOT HEAR FROM THEM.
8:29:41PM AS I SAID, IT'S A DIFFICULT POSITION.
8:29:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MICHELINI, PLEASE --
8:29:53PM >> THAT'S FINE.
8:29:55PM I WAS JUST RESPONDING.
8:29:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE SPENT AN HOUR TALKING ABOUT ALL SORTS OF
8:29:59PM THINGS JUST TO GET THE AGENDA STRAIGHT AND WE DIDN'T DO
8:30:02PM ANYTHING.
8:30:02PM >> I GOT IT.
8:30:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM UNTIL AN HOUR AND 15
8:30:06PM MINUTES LATER.
8:30:07PM MR. MICHELINI, YOU WILL BE HEARD TONIGHT.
8:30:10PM PLEASE HAVE A SEAT.
8:30:11PM WHEN YOUR NUMBER COMES UP, WE'LL CALL YOU.
8:30:14PM LET'S GO WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.
8:30:24PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
8:30:26PM MELISSA DICKENS, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
8:30:28PM GIVEN THE TIME, I WILL BE SUCCINCT THIS EVENING, BUT I HOPE
8:30:32PM THAT THE BREVITY, WITHIN THE BREVITY YOU WILL SEE THE
8:30:36PM COMPREHENSIVENESS AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM.
8:30:39PM THIS IS THE FIRST PORTION OF THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND
8:30:42PM POLICIES COMING FORWARD BEFORE YOU FOR THE TAMPA
8:30:45PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
8:30:46PM THIS IS OUR ONE WATER CHAPTER.
8:30:49PM WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BRING IT BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
8:30:51PM AS I MENTIONED, THE FIRST PORTION OF THE OVERALL TAMPA
8:30:56PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, IF I COULD GET THE ELMO, PLEASE.
8:31:05PM IT IMPLEMENTS KEY COMPONENTS OF THE VISION THAT WAS ADOPTED
8:31:17PM BY THIS COUNCIL BACK IN THE SUMMERTIME, THE RESULT OF
8:31:21PM SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, AND WE'VE
8:31:24PM COORDINATED IMPLEMENTATION WITH MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS
8:31:28PM ACROSS DIFFERENT FACETS OF WATER AND PLANNING AS WELL AS
8:31:31PM RESILIENCY IN THE CITY.
8:31:34PM THIS SLIDE HERE SHOWS THE 2045 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
8:31:40PM VISION.
8:31:41PM I WON'T READ THESE COMPONENTS TO YOU BUT JUST WANT TO SHARE
8:31:44PM THAT THIS ASPECT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MOVES FORWARD
8:31:47PM SEVERAL COMPONENTS OF THE VISION THAT THE COMMUNITY TOLD US
8:31:51PM THEY WANTED TO SEE FOR THE FUTURE IN 2045.
8:31:54PM A BRIEF OVERVIEW, THE LAST TIME THAT THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
8:32:02PM PLAN -- THE OVERALL UPDATE OCCURRED WAS BACK IN 2016.
8:32:07PM CURRENTLY WITHIN THE PLAN, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT,
8:32:10PM WASTEWATER, POTABLE WATER ARE ALL SEPARATE WITHIN THE PLAN,
8:32:13PM AND ONE WATER IS INTENDED TO UPDATE AND COMBINE THESE
8:32:17PM SECTIONS AS WELL AS INCORPORATE WATER RESOURCES RELATED
8:32:20PM LANGUAGE FROM OTHER SECTIONS.
8:32:22PM IT REFLECTS THE INTERRELATED NATURE OF WATER WITHIN THE CITY
8:32:25PM AND PROVIDES A FRAMEWORK FOR HOLISTIC WATER RESOURCES
8:32:28PM PLANNING.
8:32:29PM THE CONCEPTS WITHIN THE PLAN ARE A MIX OF EXISTING AND NEW
8:32:37PM LANGUAGE.
8:32:38PM NEW CONCEPTS INCLUDE ITEMS SUCH AS RESILIENCY AND GREEN
8:32:42PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
8:32:42PM WE'VE ALSO STREAMLINED AND STRENGTHENED EXISTING CONCEPTS.
8:32:46PM THIS IS A SIMILAR APPROACH THAT'S BEEN TAKEN WITH
8:32:49PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATES AND WE'VE
8:32:51PM REFINED IT AND TAILORED IT TO THE CITY.
8:32:55PM THERE ARE SIX GOALS WITHIN THE ONE WATER CHAPTER.
8:32:59PM -- EXCUSE ME, FIVE GOALS WITHIN THE ONE WATER CHAPTER.
8:33:02PM YOU CAN SEE THEM HERE ON YOUR SCREEN.
8:33:04PM THEY REPRESENT THE BROAD FACETS OF WATER AND MULTIPLE
8:33:09PM DIFFERENT TOPICS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO WATER RESOURCES
8:33:11PM WITHIN THE CITY.
8:33:13PM THE ONE WATER CHAPTER IS ALSO A RESULT OF A LOT OF VERY
8:33:22PM ROBUST STAKEHOLDER AND PUBLIC OUTREACH.
8:33:24PM WE BEGAN THIS PUBLIC OUTREACH IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR
8:33:28PM IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE VISION ADOPTION BY THIS COUNCIL.
8:33:31PM WE USED A MULTIFACETED APPROACH TO TRY TO REACH AS MANY
8:33:35PM PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE ACROSS THE CITY, IN PERSON, SOCIAL MEDIA,
8:33:39PM TRADITIONAL MEDIA, E-MAILS, CREATED REFERENCE DOCUMENTS TO
8:33:43PM ENABLE GREATER TRANSPARENCY AND STAKEHOLDER REVIEW.
8:33:48PM WE HELD TWO VIRTUAL MEETINGS AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY,
8:33:52PM DIFFERENT DAYS OF THE WEEK.
8:33:53PM SHARED INFORMATION AT THE IN-PERSON PLANNING TOWN HALLS IN
8:33:56PM COORDINATION WITH THE CITY AND ALSO WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH
8:33:59PM RIVER INTERLOCAL PLANNING BOARD TAC.
8:34:02PM WE ALSO RECEIVED PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDER COMMENTS.
8:34:06PM WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THOSE COMMENTS AND INCORPORATE
8:34:09PM THAT FEEDBACK BACK INTO THE FINAL DRAFT.
8:34:11PM A COMPLETE COPY OF ALL OF THE COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE INCLUDED
8:34:14PM IN YOUR PACKET THIS EVENING.
8:34:16PM IT WAS ALSO SENT OUT TWICE TO THE LOCAL, STATE, AND REGIONAL
8:34:23PM AGENCIES THAT REGULATE OR HAVE AUTHORITY OR JURISDICTION
8:34:27PM OVER WATER.
8:34:29PM NO OBJECTIONS WERE RECEIVED.
8:34:30PM STAFF FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH MUCH OF THE ADOPTED WATER
8:34:36PM RESOURCES SECTIONS AND LANGUAGE.
8:34:38PM A FEW OF THE REPRESENTATIVE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES
8:34:41PM ARE ON THE SCREEN, INCLUDING POLICIES AND GOALS AND
8:34:45PM OBJECTIVES FROM POTABLE WATER, WASTEWATER, AND STORMWATER.
8:34:49PM SO STAFF UTILIZED THOSE FOR CONSISTENCY.
8:34:53PM AND YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT YOU FIND TA/CPA
8:34:58PM 22-08 CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEY
8:35:04PM FORWARD THAT RECOMMENDATION TO YOU ALL AS CITY COUNCIL.
8:35:07PM THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
8:35:08PM I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
8:35:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
8:35:12PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
8:35:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I ASKED YOU THIS PRIVATELY BUT I WANT
8:35:18PM TO ASK YOU PUBLICLY, ALSO, THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT PURE OR A
8:35:23PM DERIVATION OF THAT THAT WAS PUT BACK IN SINCE WE VOTED ON IT
8:35:26PM LAST.
8:35:26PM >> NO.
8:35:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: THERE'S NOTHING THAT REQUIRES THE CITY TO
8:35:29PM MOVE FORWARD WITH CONVERTING WASTEWATER TO DRINKING WATER.
8:35:33PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
8:35:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
8:35:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
8:35:37PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM
8:35:40PM NUMBER 3, TA/CPA 22-08?
8:35:44PM MS. BENNETT.
8:35:50PM >> HI.
8:35:51PM CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
8:35:52PM I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
8:35:53PM PLEASE VOTE YES.
8:35:54PM THANK YOU.
8:35:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
8:35:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
8:36:00PM I DID NOT SEE ANYBODY ONLINE FOR THIS.
8:36:03PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:36:05PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:36:07PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
8:36:08PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE --
8:36:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO TRANSMIT.
8:36:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:36:15PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:36:16PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
8:36:17PM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
8:36:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:36:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
8:36:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
8:36:25PM >> VIERA?
8:36:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:36:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
8:36:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
8:36:32PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT.
8:36:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
8:36:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO THANK THE PLANNING COMMISSION
8:36:48PM STAFF.
8:36:48PM YOU ALL WORKED REALLY HARD A YEAR OR MORE ON THIS AND TOOK A
8:36:51PM LOT OF INPUT.
8:36:52PM THANK YOU FOR BEING THOROUGH ABOUT IT.
8:36:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE TA/CPA 22-24.
8:37:04PM IT IS GOING TO GO WITH 14 BUT THIS NEEDS TO BE HEARD FIRST.
8:37:12PM >>DANNY COLLINS: DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
8:37:17PM STAFF.
8:37:17PM TA/CPA 22-24.
8:37:20PM MAP AMENDMENT FOR PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 6112 SOUTH WEST
8:37:23PM SHORE BOULEVARD AND 4733 WEST BAY AVENUE.
8:37:26PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING
8:37:29PM DISTRICT.
8:37:30PM IT'S WITHIN THE GANDY SUN BAY SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:37:32PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, AND IT
8:37:35PM IS SHOWN HERE ON THE LOCATIONAL MAP.
8:37:40PM A QUICK BACKGROUND, THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT.
8:37:43PM IT'S SMALL SCALE IN SIZE.
8:37:44PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY .48 ACRES.
8:37:47PM THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM THE
8:37:48PM RESIDENTIAL 10 DESIGNATION TO THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
8:37:51PM DESIGNATION.
8:37:52PM HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND SURROUNDING
8:37:57PM PROPERTIES.
8:37:57PM SUBJECT SITE AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH WEST SHORE
8:37:59PM BOULEVARD AND WEST BAY AVENUE.
8:38:03PM IT'S DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THE WEST SHORTER YACHT CLUB
8:38:06PM WHICH CONTAINS SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED USES.
8:38:09PM THERE ARE SOME MULTIFAMILY USES TO THE SOUTHEAST -- SORRY,
8:38:12PM SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THEN THERE ARE DETACHED
8:38:15PM SINGLE-FAMILY USES TO THE EAST AND SOUTH OF THE SITE JUST
8:38:19PM EAST OF SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD.
8:38:21PM AND THERE IS A COMMERCIAL USE TO THE NORTH.
8:38:23PM THIS IS AN IMAGE LOOKING NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE FROM WEST
8:38:28PM BAY AVENUE.
8:38:29PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD, THE
8:38:33PM SUBJECT SITE IS TO THE LEFT.
8:38:34PM THIS IS LOOKING EAST AT THE SUBJECT SITE FROM SOUTH WEST
8:38:40PM SHORE BOULEVARD.
8:38:42PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD.
8:38:44PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUT OF FRAME TO THE RIGHT.
8:38:48PM HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
8:38:51PM THE SUBJECT SITE, INCLUDING PARCELS TO THE NORTH, EAST AND
8:38:54PM SOUTH ARE RECOGNIZED RESIDENTIAL 10 DESIGNATION.
8:38:58PM IT ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT UP TO TEN DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
8:39:03PM TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE LANDS RECOGNIZED UNDER CMU
8:39:06PM 35 DESIGNATION.
8:39:07PM AND LANDS TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE RECOGNIZED
8:39:11PM UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
8:39:15PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA
8:39:20PM DENOTED BY THE GREEN LINES ON THE MAP.
8:39:22PM HERE IS THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOWING THE SUBJECT
8:39:24PM SITE UNDER THE CMU 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
8:39:28PM THE CMU 35 DESIGNATION ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT UP TO 35 DWELLING
8:39:34PM UNITS PER ACRE OR UP TO 2.0 F.A.R.
8:39:38PM IT HAS A BONUS STRUCTURE BUILT INTO IT.
8:39:40PM THAT ENCOURAGES MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
8:39:42PM HERE IS A SLIDE SHOWING THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THE CHANGE.
8:39:47PM UNDER R-10 DESIGNATION CURRENTLY, THE SUBJECT SITE CAN BE
8:39:51PM CONSIDERED FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS OR JUST OVER 7300 SQUARE
8:39:54PM FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
8:39:56PM ANY NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT UNDER R-10 WOULD HAVE TO MEET
8:40:00PM LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
8:40:01PM AS PROPOSED UNDER THE CMU 35 DESIGNATION, SUBJECT SITE CAN
8:40:05PM BE CONSIDERED FOR 16 DWELLING UNITS OR JUST UNDER 42,000
8:40:09PM SQUARE FEET OF RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
8:40:14PM DUE TO THE SITE BEING WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING
8:40:17PM DISTRICT, FLOOR AREA RATIO CANNOT BE CONSIDERED FOR SINGLE
8:40:21PM USE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
8:40:23PM THE REQUEST ALSO HAS THE POTENTIAL TO INTRODUCE MULTIFAMILY
8:40:27PM RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES
8:40:31PM ON THE SUBJECT SITE.
8:40:33PM WE SENT THIS OFF TO SEVERAL OF OUR REVIEWING AGENCIES AND WE
8:40:37PM RECEIVED AN OBJECTION FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA STAFF.
8:40:41PM THIS WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON NOVEMBER 7.
8:40:44PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH
8:40:47PM THE FOLLOWING POLICIES.
8:40:49PM LAND USE POLICY 6.1.3 WHICH SUPPORTS PROPOSALS TO CONVERT
8:40:53PM NONRESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ALONG MIXED USE CORRIDORS BETWEEN
8:40:57PM MAJOR INTERSECTIONS TO RESIDENTIAL OR MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL
8:41:01PM USES.
8:41:02PM THEY FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE POLICY 9.1.4 WHICH
8:41:05PM ENCOURAGES THE VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL INTEGRATION OF A
8:41:09PM COMPLEMENTARY MIX OF COMMERCIAL SERVICE AND OTHER
8:41:12PM NONRESIDENTIAL USES THAT ADDRESS THE NEEDS FOR FAMILIES AND
8:41:14PM HOUSEHOLDS LIVING IN URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS.
8:41:17PM FINALLY, FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE POLICY 9.3.1
8:41:20PM WHICH SAYS AREAS ADJACENT TO OR WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
8:41:23PM ARE PLANNED FOR NONRESIDENTIAL USES SHALL BE DEVELOPED IN A
8:41:26PM MANNER THAT IS SENSITIVE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE AFFECTED
8:41:28PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:41:29PM YOU WILL NOTICE IN OUR STAFF REPORT THAT THE PLANNING
8:41:32PM COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
8:41:36PM I WANT TO JUST BE CLEAR, THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION INCLUDES
8:41:40PM THE POLICIES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CITED IN THEIR
8:41:44PM CONSISTENCY FINDING.
8:41:46PM BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
8:41:51PM RECOMMENDS THAT THE PROPOSED MAP AMENDMENT BE FOUND
8:41:55PM CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
8:41:58PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
8:41:59PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
8:42:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:42:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO JUST TO CLARIFY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
8:42:06PM FOUND IT INCONSISTENT BUT THE BOARD FOUND IT CONSISTENT.
8:42:11PM >>DANNY COLLINS: RIGHT.
8:42:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
8:42:17PM THANK YOU.
8:42:18PM WE'VE GOT IT ON OUR SCREEN.
8:42:59PM >> TYLER HUDSON.
8:43:01PM 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
8:43:03PM CAN YOU TURN ON THE ELMO?
8:43:04PM I THINK DANNY DID A GOOD JOB IDENTIFYING EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE
8:43:16PM TALKING ABOUT.
8:43:16PM TO ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT AND THANK COUNCIL FOR INDULGENCE IN
8:43:20PM BRINGING UP ITEM 14 TO IMMEDIATELY FOLLOW THIS.
8:43:23PM WE'LL TRY TO MAKE VERY EFFICIENT USE OF THE TIME.
8:43:25PM COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS CAN SIGNIFICANTLY SOMETIMES INCREASE
8:43:27PM THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS FOR A PROPERTY WHICH THEN GET
8:43:30PM IMPLEMENTED BY ZONING.
8:43:31PM SOMETIMES A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SIDE BY
8:43:34PM SIDE THAT DANNY SHOWED, SHOWED MULTIFAMILY USES COMING IN,
8:43:37PM LOTS OF UNITS PER ACRE.
8:43:38PM LOTS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE.
8:43:40PM THAT CAN BE CONSTRAINED, AND I'LL SUGGEST TO YOU I WANT TO
8:43:43PM KEEP THIS VERY SEPARATE THAT THE PD APPLICATION THAT THIS IS
8:43:46PM RELATED TO AND THAT FOLLOWS THIS DOES SIGNIFICANTLY
8:43:48PM CONSTRAIN AND NARROW THOSE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS THAT THE
8:43:51PM APPROVAL OF THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT GENERATES.
8:43:54PM BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TODAY
8:43:57PM BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY DOES HAVE COMMERCIAL ZONING
8:44:00PM PREDOMINANTLY BUT THE CURRENT R 10 FUTURE LAND USE
8:44:03PM DESIGNATION REALLY LIMITS THE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL.
8:44:05PM BY APPROVING THIS WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWING US TO DO IS THROUGH
8:44:08PM THE PD YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR IN YEARS, YOU'LL HEAR IN A
8:44:12PM COUPLE OF MINUTES THAT WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE
8:44:14PM FLEXIBILITY AND SHOW YOU PRECISELY IN VERY PD LEVEL DETAIL
8:44:18PM WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE SITE.
8:44:19PM AGAIN, WE'RE PRETTY CLEAR WHERE IT IS.
8:44:22PM THERE'S BEEN AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
8:44:25PM IN THIS PART OF THE CITY.
8:44:26PM I THINK COUNCIL HAS HEARD THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES WITH
8:44:29PM THAT.
8:44:30PM I THINK FOLKS EVEN IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO MIGHT SPEAK LATER
8:44:34PM ABOUT WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A REFRAIN OF
8:44:37PM WANTING SOMETHING THAN JUST RESIDENTIAL.
8:44:39PM HAVING SOME TYPE OF COMMERCIAL USES TO SERVE ALL THE FOLKS
8:44:41PM THAT ARE COMING TO MOVE THERE.
8:44:43PM THIS AREA IS A MIX OF SINGLE-FAMILY, BUT THERE IS AN
8:44:47PM ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MULTIFAMILY DENSE RESIDENTIAL ACROSS
8:44:50PM WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
8:44:51PM AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE POPULATION THAT WE'RE HOPING TO SERVE
8:44:54PM WITH THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
8:44:56PM SHOW YOU ONE SLIDE HERE, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE RIGHT IS
8:45:01PM ACTUALLY THE TAMPA ZONING MAP, WHICH WE ARE GOING TO AMEND
8:45:05PM THAT THROUGH THE SUBSEQUENT ITEM 14.
8:45:07PM BUT FOR REFERENCE IT'S HELPFUL TO SHOW HERE THAT THIS IS AN
8:45:11PM EXISTING COMMERCIALLY ENTITLED AREA.
8:45:13PM FOR WHATEVER REASON, FOR A VERY LONG TIME, THE AREA ON
8:45:16PM WESTSHORE, ON THE EAST SIDE OF WESTSHORE BETWEEN BAY AVENUE
8:45:20PM AND OHIO HAS BEEN DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USE AND JUST DUE
8:45:24PM NORTH OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THERE IS AN
8:45:27PM EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE ON THE PROPERTY THAT MAY BE THE
8:45:31PM SUBJECT OF A REZONING COMING UP SHORTLY, THERE HAS BEEN
8:45:34PM COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE PREVIOUSLY.
8:45:36PM DANNY ALREADY MENTIONED AND JUST ALLAY ANY CONFUSION THAT
8:45:41PM THIS PROJECT WAS FOUND CONSISTENT BY THE PLANNING
8:45:44PM COMMISSION.
8:45:45PM IN TERMS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I ALLUDED TO THIS A LITTLE
8:45:48PM BIT, BUT THE AMOUNT OF DENSITY THAT EXISTS NOW IN THIS
8:45:52PM CORRIDOR RELATIVE TO WHAT WAS THERE FIVE, 10, 15, 20 YEARS
8:45:56PM AGO IS STARK.
8:45:57PM THE WESTSHORE YACHT CLUB OR ANYTHING ON RATTLESNAKE POINT
8:46:01PM WHICH THIS COUNCIL HAS HAD THE PLEASURE OF HEARING SOME OF
8:46:03PM THOSE PROJECTS IN A LOT OF DETAIL, INCLUDING THROUGH
8:46:05PM LITIGATION, THERE ARE TOWERS GOING ON IN THE RATTLESNAKE
8:46:08PM POINT AREA.
8:46:09PM THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, BUT
8:46:11PM THERE HAS REALLY NEVER BEEN ANY RETAIL, ANY COMMERCIAL USES
8:46:14PM TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.
8:46:16PM THE RESULT OF THAT MEANS MOST FOLKS GET IN THEIR CAR,
8:46:19PM DRIVING UP TO GANDY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
8:46:21PM WHAT THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW US TO DO IS TO
8:46:24PM REZONE THE SITE FOR A SPECIFIC COMMERCIAL USE THAT WE THINK
8:46:27PM IS GOING TO BE SUPPORTED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:46:30PM THERE ARE SEVERAL SUPPORTING POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
8:46:32PM PLAN THAT DANNY ALLUDED TO WHICH ARE IN YOUR RESOLUTION.
8:46:35PM I'M NOT GOING TO READ THOSE TO YOU NOW.
8:46:37PM I'D LIKE TO HAVE MICHAEL MURRAY, WHO IS THE PROPERTY OWNER
8:46:40PM AND THE DEVELOPER TO COME UP AND SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
8:46:42PM WHY HE GOT INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT.
8:46:44PM THANKS.
8:46:48PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
8:46:49PM MICHAEL MURRAY, 4614 SOUTH -- EXCUSE ME, LONG FELLOW AVENUE.
8:46:55PM I AM THE DEVELOPER, ALTHOUGH NEVER BEEN CALLED THAT BEFORE
8:47:00PM BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAVE A DAY JOB, VERY BORING, 9 TO 5 IN
8:47:04PM THE INSURANCE BUSINESS.
8:47:05PM I HAVE THREE SMALL CHILDREN.
8:47:07PM IT IS OUR ROUTINE ON THE WEEKENDS, WE GET UP AND GET IN THE
8:47:10PM CAR, GO GET DOUGHNUTS AND COFFEE, DRIVE DOWN TO GANDY TO THE
8:47:15PM DUNKIN' DONUTS BECAUSE PRETTY MUCH ONLY THING AVAILABLE TO
8:47:19PM US.
8:47:19PM THE FAVORITE PART IS PICNIC ISLAND.
8:47:22PM DRIVE UP AND DOWN WESTSHORE BOULEVARD FOR YEARS, 6112
8:47:26PM WESTSHORE AND THOUGHT WHY IS THAT A VACANT LOT?
8:47:28PM THAT IS A PRIME PIECE OF COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE.
8:47:31PM TO THE NORTH, AS TYLER ALLUDED TO, THERE IS AN EXISTING
8:47:34PM KWIK STOP.
8:47:35PM MANY GET THEIR BAGS OF ICE OR THEIR BEVERAGES BEFORE THEY GO
8:47:39PM ON THE BOAT.
8:47:40PM 6112 IS A VACANT LOT.
8:47:42PM WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT, THERE WERE OVER 50 CARS PARKED
8:47:45PM THAT WERE SERVICING THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS
8:47:48PM ACROSS THE STREET, THE WORKERS WERE PARKING THERE.
8:47:50PM MADE THE CALL.
8:47:51PM I PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
8:47:54PM I HAVE NO, MA'AM RELATIONSHIPS IN THE COFFEE AND ICE CREAM
8:47:56PM BUSINESS.
8:47:56PM I CREATED A PLAN WITH SOME ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS.
8:48:00PM I BROUGHT IT TO SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES OR SOME OF MY FRIENDS
8:48:03PM IN THE COFFEE AND ICE CREAM BUSINESS.
8:48:05PM I SAID THIS AREA HAS THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTIAL
8:48:09PM UNITS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
8:48:12PM MULTIFAMILY GOING UP, BRAND-NEW.
8:48:13PM I THINK THEY JUST STARTED LEASING RECENTLY.
8:48:16PM WESTSHORE YACHT CLUB DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
8:48:18PM TO THE SOUTH IS PORT TAMPA WHERE THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF NEW
8:48:21PM LENNAR AND WCI HOMES.
8:48:23PM AND NONE OF THESE HOMES HAVE ANY SORT OF COMMERCIAL COFFEE,
8:48:29PM SANDWICH, ICE CREAM TO GO TO WITHIN THE VICINITY OF THEIR
8:48:33PM HOME.
8:48:33PM THEY HAVE TO GET IN THE CAR AND GO TO GANDY BOULEVARD LIKE I
8:48:37PM DO.
8:48:37PM I THOUGHT IT WAS THE PERFECT SPOT FOR COFFEE, ICE CREAM,
8:48:40PM LIGHT COMMERCIAL RETAIL CENTER.
8:48:42PM AND I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.
8:48:43PM AND THEN I REALIZED WHY IT WAS VACANT.
8:48:46PM IT'S BECAUSE DUE TO ALL OF TODAY'S CODES TO BUILD UP, THERE
8:48:51PM IS A BRAND-NEW STARBUCKS GOING IN ON GANDY.
8:48:55PM THERE IS A RETAINING WALL.
8:48:57PM THE PROPERTY IS NOT BIG ENOUGH TO SUPPORT A COMMERCIAL
8:48:59PM BUILDING ON ITS OWN WITH TODAY'S CODES.
8:49:01PM YOU CAN'T JUST PUT DOWN A BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY.
8:49:05PM YOU HAVE TO BUILD UP RETAINING WALLS WHICH IS WHY
8:49:07PM KIMLEY-HORN WAS HIRED TO DO THE SITE PLAN.
8:49:11PM I ACQUIRED 4733 DIRECTLY BEHIND IT SO I COULD HAVE A BIGGER
8:49:14PM PARCEL SO YOU COULD PUT A PARKING LOT TO SUPPORT THE
8:49:17PM COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT I WOULD MOVE CLOSER TO WESTSHORE,
8:49:19PM SO IT HAD THE WESTSHORE FRONT ABOVE AVERAGE AND THE PARKING
8:49:23PM COULD BE BEHIND THE BUILDING.
8:49:24PM TO BE CLEAR, MY VISION, I'M NOT A DEVELOPER.
8:49:27PM LIKE I SAID, I'M A NEIGHBOR.
8:49:29PM MY PLAN IS COFFEE, ICE CREAM, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES BECAUSE
8:49:35PM I BELIEVE THAT COMMERCIAL IN NEIGHBORHOODS MAKE FOR BETTER
8:49:38PM NEIGHBORHOODS, A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO MEET AFTER WORK OR
8:49:41PM AFTER SCHOOL AND GET A CUP OF COFFEE.
8:49:44PM AND THE LOCAL BRAND THAT I'M COURTING LOVES THE SITE, BUT IT
8:49:49PM IS CONTINGENT ON OBVIOUSLY WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT
8:49:52PM TODAY.
8:49:52PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
8:49:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
8:49:59PM >> THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
8:50:00PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
8:50:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES
8:50:06PM TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE TA/CPA 22-24?
8:50:18PM >> I'M TIRED.
8:50:19PM YOU ALL HAVE TO BE TIRED.
8:50:20PM YOU ALL HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE ALL DAY.
8:50:23PM GOOD EVENING.
8:50:23PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
8:50:24PM I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
8:50:27PM WE DIDN'T TAKE A VOTE ON THIS, BUT EVERYBODY LOVES THIS
8:50:33PM IDEA.
8:50:34PM I'VE ONLY HEARD OF ONE PERSON WHO DIDN'T, AND THEY WERE
8:50:37PM UPSET.
8:50:38PM BUT WESTSHORE IS A MAIN DRAG.
8:50:41PM THIS IS ALREADY ZONED.
8:50:43PM MICHAEL CAME TO US LONG BEFORE EVEN FILED THE PAPERWORK WITH
8:50:49PM THE CITY.
8:50:50PM WE SUPPORT THIS.
8:50:51PM WE WANT THIS.
8:50:52PM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS SCREAMING BLOODY MURDER FOR IT.
8:50:55PM SO, PLEASE, LET'S SUPPORT THIS GENTLEMAN.
8:50:59PM I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, AND THIS IS ONE ISSUE THAT WE ARE
8:51:02PM TAKING UP AS PART OF OUR CHHA MEETINGS THIS WEEK.
8:51:05PM THE CMU 35 REALLY SCARES THE SCRAP OUT OF US.
8:51:10PM NOW, MICHAEL HAS TOLD ME AND TYLER HAVE TOLD ME THIS IS NOT
8:51:15PM GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
8:51:16PM NOBODY WILL PUT APARTMENTS IN, AND IT WILL KIND OF BE STUPID
8:51:20PM TO DO SO BECAUSE THEY JUST BUILT 585 ACROSS THE STREET,
8:51:24PM CLOSER TO HERE THAN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
8:51:27PM SO IT WOULD BE STUPID.
8:51:29PM BUT WE STILL HAVE THAT APPREHENSION BECAUSE OF THAT.
8:51:34PM AND I COMPLETELY BELIEVE THAT THIS GENTLEMAN IS TELLING ME
8:51:38PM THE TRUTH, BUT IF HE GOT HIT BY A BUS ON THE WAY HOME, HIS
8:51:42PM WIFE WOULD BE SMART TO SELL THE PROPERTY.
8:51:44PM I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
8:51:45PM I WANT TO SUPPORT HIM.
8:51:47PM I'M HERE TO SUPPORT HIM.
8:51:48PM I KNOW KELLY SENT A LETTER, AND I HOPE JEAN IS ONLINE, I
8:51:53PM DON'T KNOW, BUT I AM VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
8:51:57PM WE NEED IT.
8:52:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
8:52:03PM MR. HUDSON, I'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS.
8:52:08PM I'M SORRY.
8:52:11PM PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
8:52:12PM THERE IS A REPRESENTATIVE APPLICANT.
8:52:14PM ARE ALL SETBACKS MET?
8:52:17PM HOW MANY WAIVERS ARE GOING TO BE ASKED FOR?
8:52:19PM I'M SORRY.
8:52:23PM I GOT TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
8:52:25PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:52:26PM YOU SEE WHERE MY MIND IS GOING ALREADY.
8:52:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAD QUESTIONS EVEN BEFORE MS. POYNOR
8:52:34PM BROUGHT IT UP ABOUT THE INTENSIFICATION OF THE CMU 35.
8:52:39PM DOES IT HAVE TO BE THAT DENSE IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT
8:52:44PM YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH?
8:52:46PM >> IT DOES NOT.
8:52:47PM AND THE PERMISSIBLE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT'S CREATED BY THIS
8:52:50PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INCREASE IS IMPLEMENTED BY A ZONING.
8:52:54PM THE NEXT ITEM YOU HAVE IS THE ZONING AND I WANT TO BE REALLY
8:52:59PM CAREFUL ABOUT KEEPING THINGS SEPARATE, BUT THAT IS WHERE
8:53:01PM QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW BIG IS THE BUILDING, WHAT USES ARE
8:53:04PM ALLOWED WILL BE ANSWERED IN ZONING.
8:53:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:53:08PM BUT MY QUESTION IS I GUESS TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, DID IT
8:53:14PM NEED --
8:53:15PM >> IT DID.
8:53:15PM BECAUSE CMU 35 ALLOWS A BROADER ARRAY OF COMMERCIAL USES.
8:53:20PM SO THAT'S WHY.
8:53:23PM I WOULDN'T QUITE SAY THIS HAS BEEN RUBE GOLDBERG-ESQUE, BUT
8:53:26PM WE WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO NOT FILE THIS COMP PLAN
8:53:29PM AMENDMENT, BUT WE HAD TO FOR REASONS THAT WILL BE MORE
8:53:32PM APPARENT IN THE REZONING.
8:53:34PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
8:53:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
8:53:38PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:53:41PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:53:42PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:53:43PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
8:54:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE TO MOVE FILE TA/CPA 22-24, ORDINANCE
8:54:09PM BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
8:54:11PM AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
8:54:14PM PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE
8:54:17PM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6112 SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD AND 4733
8:54:22PM WEST BAY AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL 10, R-10, TO COMMUNITY
8:54:26PM MIXED USE-35, CMU-35, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES
8:54:31PM IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
8:54:33PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
8:54:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
8:54:36PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:54:37PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
8:54:38PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:54:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS HESITANTLY BECAUSE
8:54:44PM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, THE SITE SCARES ME.
8:54:47PM SO I UNDERSTAND THE PD THAT'S COMING COULD SOLVE THAT, BUT
8:54:54PM IT COULDN'T.
8:54:57PM DON'T MAKE ME REGRET IT.
8:55:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT, COUNCILWOMAN
8:55:03PM HURTAK.
8:55:03PM AGAIN, I'M OF TWO MINDS.
8:55:05PM THIS CITY NEEDS MORE DENSITY.
8:55:07PM MORE DENSITY MEANS MORE TRANSPORTATION, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE
8:55:09PM ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER.
8:55:11PM I'LL BE CAREFUL BECAUSE I KNOW MR. JOHNSON VELEZ IS LOOKING
8:55:16PM AT ME.
8:55:17PM THE GUARANTEES OF WHAT IS PLANNED ON THIS AREN'T GUARANTEES.
8:55:23PM SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
8:55:25PM AND AS MS. HURTAK SAID, DON'T MAKE ME REGRET THIS.
8:55:30PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL.
8:55:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
8:55:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
8:55:37PM >> VIERA?
8:55:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:55:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
8:55:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:55:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
8:55:48PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT.
8:55:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
8:55:53PM NOW WE WILL HEAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14.
8:56:02PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:56:04PM BEFORE I JUMP TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14, MR. STEVE MICHELINI
8:56:15PM --
8:56:15PM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
8:56:18PM JANUARY 5th, 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
8:56:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MADAM CLERK, YOU'RE DOING A FINE JOB.
8:56:24PM DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
8:56:26PM YOU'RE DOING GREAT.
8:56:27PM MR. MICHELINI.
8:56:33PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I JUST GOT CONFIRMATION FROM THE OWNERS
8:56:36PM TO WITHDRAW BOTH OF THE CASES.
8:56:37PM SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE COUNCIL REMOVING THEM FROM THE
8:56:40PM AGENDA.
8:56:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
8:56:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
8:56:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE -- OR WE HAD NOT
8:57:01PM STARTED 14.
8:57:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAD NOT.
8:57:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU'RE RECALLING 5 AND 6 TO HANDLE THAT AND
8:57:08PM THEN GO BACK TO NUMBER 14.
8:57:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS CORRECT.
8:57:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANTED TO CLEAR THAT FOR THE RECORD.
8:57:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I NEED A MOTION FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5,
8:57:17PM FILE REZ 21-07.
8:57:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW FROM COUNCILMAN
8:57:26PM GUDES.
8:57:26PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:57:28PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:57:30PM ANY OPPOSED?
8:57:32PM NEED A MOTION FOR AGENDA NUMBER 6, FILE AB 2-21-10.
8:57:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO WITHDRAW FILE AB 2-21-10.
8:57:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST SO IT'S CLEAR TO ACCEPT THE
8:57:47PM APPLICANT'S WITHDRAWAL.
8:57:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HE REQUESTED IT UNDER OATH.
8:57:52PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:57:52PM WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:57:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:57:58PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
8:57:59PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
8:58:00PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:58:02PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14.
8:58:06PM >> MAY I SAY SOMETHING?
8:58:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, MA'AM.
8:58:08PM I'M SORRY.
8:58:09PM >> THANK YOU ALL.
8:58:09PM HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS.
8:58:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:58:11PM YOU, TOO.
8:58:12PM MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU.
8:58:12PM HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
8:58:13PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14, REZ-22-115.
8:58:19PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:58:21PM THIS PROPOSED REZONING --
8:58:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AS WE'RE LEAVING, IF
8:58:26PM WE COULD DO THAT QUIETLY, PLEASE.
8:58:29PM THANK YOU.
8:58:32PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: THIS IS A PROPOSED REZONING AT THE LOCATION
8:58:35PM 6112 SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD AND 4733 WEST BAY AVENUE.
8:58:41PM THE PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS 60, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY,
8:58:45PM AND CN, COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
8:58:49PM RESTAURANT, DRIVE-IN AND RETAIL SALES SHOPPER'S GOODS.
8:58:53PM I'LL PASS IT ALONG TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
8:59:12PM >> GOOD EVENING.
8:59:13PM EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
8:59:17PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
8:59:18PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING
8:59:20PM DISTRICT AND GANDY SUN BAY SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:59:24PM CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP LOCATED AT SOUTH MANHATTAN AVENUE AND
8:59:27PM WEST IOWA AVENUE, BOBBY HICKS PARK IS THE CLOSEST
8:59:31PM RECREATIONAL FACILITY LOCATED HALF A MILE EAST OF THE
8:59:34PM SUBJECT SITE AND THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN LEVEL A
8:59:37PM EVACUATION ZONE AND WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
8:59:40PM HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
8:59:44PM YOU HEARD IT PREVIOUSLY FROM DANNY'S PRESENTATION.
8:59:46PM IT'S SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND MULTIFAMILY
8:59:49PM RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS SOME COMMERCIAL USES.
8:59:52PM THIS IS THE MAP OF THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE, AND THE
8:59:58PM REQUEST WAS CONTINGENT UPON TA/CPA 22-24 WHICH YOU JUST
9:00:04PM HEARD.
9:00:04PM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 PROVIDES FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF
9:00:08PM GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL.
9:00:10PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROMOTES DEVELOPMENT TO BE SENSITIVE
9:00:13PM TO ADJACENT USES TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING
9:00:16PM AREA.
9:00:16PM THE PD PROPOSES A 0.15 F.A.R. WHICH IS BELOW THE ANTICIPATED
9:00:23PM INTENSITY UNDER THE CMU 35 DESIGNATION, MEETING THE INTENT
9:00:27PM OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
9:00:28PM THE PD PROPOSES THE STRUCTURE TO BE ORIENTED TOWARDS SOUTH
9:00:32PM WEST SHORE BOULEVARD.
9:00:33PM THE DRIVE-THROUGH WINDOW IS PROPOSED TO THE NORTH SIDE OF
9:00:36PM THE STRUCTURE AND A FIVE-FOOT BUFFER IS PROVIDED FROM
9:00:40PM ADJACENT PARCELS TO THE NORTH MEETING THE DIRECTION OF THE
9:00:43PM PLAN.
9:00:44PM A FIVE FOOT BUFFER IS ALSO PROVIDED ON THE EAST FROM THE
9:00:47PM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES MEETING THE POLICY DIRECTION
9:00:51PM AS WELL.
9:00:52PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO PROMOTES PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND
9:00:55PM ENCOURAGES COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT ENHANCES THE CITY'S
9:00:59PM CHARACTER AND AMBIENCE.
9:01:00PM IN DOING SO, SIDEWALKS ARE PRESENT ALONG WEST BAY AVENUE AND
9:01:04PM SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD PROVIDING PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS
9:01:07PM BETWEEN ADJACENT PARCELS AND THE PUBLIC RIGHTS-OF-WAY.
9:01:10PM THE PROPOSED SIDEWALKS HAVE ENSURED SIDEWALKS INTERCONNECT
9:01:15PM WITH EXISTING AND FUTURE SIDEWALKS.
9:01:16PM OVERALL, THE PROPOSED PLAN DEVELOPMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR
9:01:19PM DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMFORTABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
9:01:24PM CHARACTERISTIC OF THE SURROUNDING USES AND CONSISTENT WITH
9:01:26PM THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN UNDER THE CMU 35 FUTURE LAND USE
9:01:29PM DESIGNATION.
9:01:30PM THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
9:01:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
9:01:35PM THANK YOU.
9:01:38PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
9:01:39PM I'LL GO AHEAD AND SHARE THE AERIAL VIEW FIRST.
9:01:46PM ZOOM ON INTO THE PROPERTY HERE OUTLINED IN RED.
9:01:53PM THE PROPERTY IS RIGHT NOW ZONED CNNRS 60 PROPOSING TO PD,
9:02:00PM APPROPRIATING A PD FOR RESTAURANT DRIVE-IN AND RETAIL SALES
9:02:04PM SHOPPER'S GOODS AS I'LL SHOW YOU IN SITE PLAN TO COME.
9:02:07PM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONTAINS TWO LOTS.
9:02:10PM ONE WORKS TO.
9:02:11PM FOR APPROXIMATELY .49 ACRES.
9:02:14PM IT'S AT THE CORNER OF SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD AND WEST
9:02:19PM BAY AVENUE.
9:02:23PM TO THE NORTH YOU'LL HAVE A LOT ZONED CN.
9:02:27PM IT IS A QUICK STOP.
9:02:29PM YOU ALSO HAVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED ALSO TO THE
9:02:32PM NORTH.
9:02:33PM TO THE EAST AND THE SOUTH YOU HAVE ZONED RS 60 WITH
9:02:37PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES.
9:02:40PM TO THE WEST, YOU HAVE A PDA, THE WESTSHORE YACHT CLUB AND
9:02:47PM ALSO RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES.
9:02:49PM I'LL NOW SHOW YOU THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
9:02:56PM AS YOU SEE IT IS HERE AT THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH WEST
9:03:08PM SHORE BOULEVARD AND WEST BAY AVENUE.
9:03:12PM THE LOT CURRENTLY IS VACANT AT THIS TIME.
9:03:15PM THE PROPOSED BUILDING AREA IS FOR 3,156 SQUARE FEET.
9:03:21PM VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE SITE IS PROVIDED FROM SOUTH WEST
9:03:23PM SHORE BOULEVARD AND ALSO WEST BAY AVENUE.
9:03:31PM THE RETAIL RESTAURANT USE IS PROPOSED ALONG THE NORTH END OF
9:03:35PM THE SITE WITH DRIVE-THROUGH LANE LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF THE
9:03:39PM BUILDING.
9:03:40PM VEHICULAR TRAFFIC WILL HAVE TWO POINTS OF EXIT AND ENTRANCE.
9:03:44PM THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS AT 18 FEET.
9:03:48PM THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING SIX WAIVERS HERE ALL TO DO WITH
9:03:52PM EITHER TRANSPORTATION OR NATURAL RESOURCES.
9:03:55PM ONE OF THE TRANSPORTATION WAIVERS IS REQUESTING A WAIVER
9:04:01PM FROM PROPOSING 20 PARKING SPACES WHEN THEY ARE REQUIRED TO
9:04:05PM PROVIDE 28.
9:04:06PM THAT'S ONE OF THEIR WAIVERS TO COME.
9:04:08PM I WILL NOW SHOW THE ELEVATIONS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
9:04:21PM NORTH ELEVATION.
9:04:26PM EAST ELEVATION.
9:04:27PM SOUTH ELEVATION.
9:04:31PM AND ALSO THE WEST ELEVATION.
9:04:41PM AS I WENT OUT TO THE SITE, YOU'LL SEE WHAT I TOOK PICTURES
9:04:48PM OF.
9:04:51PM AS YOU SEE, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
9:04:54PM TO THE NORTH IS THAT QUICK STOP.
9:05:04PM THIS IS RUNNING ALONG WEST BAY AVENUE.
9:05:07PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOUSES.
9:05:10PM THAT IS TO THE EAST.
9:05:14PM AS YOU SEE THE VACANT LOT RIGHT HERE AND TO THE NORTH YOU
9:05:22PM HAVE THAT QUICK STOP COMMERCIAL USE.
9:05:25PM DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE VACANT LOT YOU'LL HAVE RESIDENTIAL
9:05:35PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
9:05:38PM AND ACROSS WESTSHORE YOU'LL HAVE ALSO RESIDENTIAL ALONG THE
9:05:48PM WAY.
9:05:49PM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
9:05:57PM PETITION AND FINDS THE OVERALL REQUEST TO BE INCONSISTENT
9:05:59PM WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
9:06:01PM SHOULD IT BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, MODIFICATIONS TO
9:06:05PM SITE PLAN MUST BE COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
9:06:08PM AS PER THE REVISION SHEET.
9:06:10PM I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
9:06:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
9:06:12PM THANK YOU.
9:06:20PM >> TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
9:06:24PM I'LL GO A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER.
9:06:25PM ALEX IS A LICENSED CIVIL ENGINEER WITH MY FIRM AND IS GOING
9:06:29PM TO PRESENT THE PD, HOW IT WORKS, WHY WE NEED THE WAIVERS.
9:06:33PM GIVEN SOME OF THE CONCERN I HEARD DURING THE COMP PLAN
9:06:35PM AMENDMENT, WHICH WE CAN NOW TALK ABOUT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
9:06:38PM TRUSTING BUT ALSO VERIFYING.
9:06:40PM LET'S TALK ABOUT VERIFICATION, TOO.
9:06:43PM WHENEVER YOU ALL APPROVE A PD, IT'S A VERY SPECIFIC
9:06:46PM ENGINEERED SITE PLAN.
9:06:48PM IT'S GOT A LOT OF NOTES ON IT AND NUMBERS ON IT AS WELL.
9:06:50PM THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE CODE CALLED THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE
9:06:55PM CRITERIA.
9:06:55PM IT'S 27-138 SUB 7.
9:06:56PM IF YOU WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN TYPES OF CHANGES TO A PD, AND
9:07:00PM THEY ARE SUBSTANTIAL, THEY GET YOU RIGHT BACK HERE.
9:07:03PM ONE CHANGE THAT IS DEEMED SUBSTANTIAL IS THE ADDITION OF A
9:07:06PM LAND USE THAT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
9:07:09PM AS ALEX WILL DISCUSS, MULTIFAMILY IS NOT AN APPROVED USE,
9:07:14PM NOTHING RESIDENTIAL IS APPROVED ON THIS SITE PLAN.
9:07:17PM IF SOMEONE, SOMETHING, GOD FORBID, STEPHANIE ALLUDED
9:07:21PM HAPPENED TO MICHAEL AND HIS WIFE WENT TO SELL IT, THEY WOULD
9:07:24PM HAVE TO COME BACK HERE TO ALLOW A RESIDENTIAL USE.
9:07:28PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS CONCERNED ABOUT DENSITY, RIGHT NOW
9:07:31PM 0.15 F.A.R.
9:07:33PM 3,136 SQUARE FEET.
9:07:36PM WE CAN ADD 157 SQUARE FEET AND MS. FEELEY'S TEAM WOULD
9:07:40PM LIKELY APPROVE THAT AS A NON-SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
9:07:44PM IF WE WANT TO ADD 158 FEET, WE'RE RIGHT BACK HERE.
9:07:48PM IF WE WANT TO CHANGE ONE SETBACK BY ONE INCH, WE'RE RIGHT
9:07:51PM BACK HERE.
9:07:52PM IF WE WANT TO REDUCE ONE PARKING SPACE, WE'RE RIGHT BACK
9:07:55PM HERE.
9:07:55PM IF WE WANT TO SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE INGRESS, SOLID WASTE,
9:08:00PM LOADING, ANY OF THAT, WE'RE RIGHT BACK HERE.
9:08:02PM THE BENEFIT OF PDs IS THAT THEY ARE VERY, VERY SPECIFIC.
9:08:04PM THAT'S ALSO SOMETIMES THE DOWNSIDE OF PDs IS THAT THEY ARE
9:08:08PM VERY, VERY SPECIFIC.
9:08:08PM I THINK FOR COUNCIL'S BENEFIT, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE
9:08:09PM PUBLIC, AND CERTAINLY FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY,
9:08:12PM MICHAEL HAS BEEN TALKING TO YOU FOR A LONG TIME ABOUT THIS,
9:08:14PM AND HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT MORE AFTER ALEX.
9:08:17PM THE PD SITE PLAN IS EXTREMELY RESTRICTIVE ON WHAT CAN BE
9:08:21PM DONE.
9:08:21PM THE CHANGES I THINK THERE'S TREPIDATION ABOUT, THINGS HAPPEN
9:08:26PM IN THE FUTURE, SOMEONE COULD ASK FOR THAT BUT THEY HAVE TO
9:08:29PM COME RIGHT BACK HERE TO THE COUNCIL TO CONVINCE THE COUNCIL.
9:08:33PM I WANT TO SET THE TABLE ABOUT THAT AND WITH THAT TURN IT
9:08:36PM OVER TO ALEX.
9:08:38PM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE, FOR THE RECORD.
9:08:41PM HERE WITH US MICHAEL MURRAY WHO YOU JUST MET WITH LONGFELLOW
9:08:43PM CAPITAL.
9:08:44PM KIMLEY-HORN IS OUR CIVIL TEAM.
9:08:46PM ARTIE CINTRON AND HALEY SKINNER ARE WITH US FROM KIMLEY.
9:08:46PM RICKY PETERIKA IS HERE FROM DARK MOSS.
9:08:50PM RDB IS THE ARCHITECTURE.
9:08:52PM YOU'LL SEE SOME RENDERINGS FROM THEM THROUGHOUT THE
9:08:54PM PRESENTATION.
9:08:55PM STEVE HENRY WITH LINCKS & ASSOCIATES IS AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY
9:08:58PM FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARE TRAFFIC RELATED.
9:09:00PM I WON'T GO INTO THE LOCATION AGAIN.
9:09:01PM I THINK WE'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WHERE THE PARCELS ARE.
9:09:05PM COUPLE OF DIFFERENT STREET VIEW PHOTOS.
9:09:07PM THE FRONTAGE PARCEL IS INHERENTLY UNDERUTILIZED GIVEN THE
9:09:11PM LOCATION ALONG THE COLLECTOR ROADWAY OF WESTSHORE.
9:09:14PM THE BACK IS THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME BUILT IN THE 1950s.
9:09:17PM YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SIDEWALK HERE.
9:09:18PM IT'S FAILING CURRENTLY AND JUST THIS OVERALL SITE IS
9:09:21PM SOMEWHAT OF AN EYE SORE FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
9:09:27PM TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL AS TO THE SITE ZONING BUT ALSO THE
9:09:33PM SURROUNDING ZONING.
9:09:35PM THE FRONTAGE PARCEL IS ZONED CN.
9:09:37PM THE BLUE BOX ON THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN, MICHAEL COULD GO
9:09:41PM TODAY AND PULL BUILDING PERMITS AND CONSTRUCT ANY OF THE
9:09:44PM USES, GUARANTEE THEY ARE COMPLIANT WITH CODE AND DIMENSIONAL
9:09:47PM REGULATIONS AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE BOXES.
9:09:49PM RESTAURANT, DAY CARE, BANK.
9:09:52PM THIS IS A SELECTION OF CN USES WE PULLED BUT THERE ARE
9:09:56PM DEFINITELY OTHERS.
9:09:57PM SHIFTING TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN WITH ZONING MAP,
9:10:00PM QUICK STOP IS EXACTLY NORTH.
9:10:02PM CN ZONED PARCEL.
9:10:04PM I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED.
9:10:06PM THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME ALSO DUE NORTH OF THE SITE IS ALSO
9:10:10PM ZONED CN.
9:10:11PM EFFECTIVELY WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS PD, THE SITE BOUNDARY
9:10:15PM OUTLINED IN DASHED BLUE, WE WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE COMPLETING
9:10:18PM THE BOX OF COMMERCIAL USES THAT HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY
9:10:20PM PLANNED IN THIS SPECIFIC SECTION BETWEEN OHIO AND WEST BAY
9:10:23PM AVENUE ALONG WESTSHORE.
9:10:25PM THIS IS A SNIPPET FROM A ZONING MAP FROM THE ZONING ATLAS
9:10:29PM FROM THE CITY.
9:10:30PM THIS IS LATEST REVISED IN 2016 BEFORE THE CITY'S GIS AND ALL
9:10:34PM THESE OTHER AVAILABLE MAPS WE HAVE ONLINE.
9:10:37PM THIS SPECIFIC SECTION ALONG WESTSHORE, JUST OHIO AND BAY
9:10:41PM AVENUE, THAT SPECIFIC SECTION IT HAS BEEN DESIGNATED FOR
9:10:44PM COMMERCIAL USES.
9:10:45PM I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL POINTS OF
9:10:48PM THIS APPLICATION.
9:10:50PM MOVING INTO THE HISTORY OF THE USAGE ON THE SITE AND AWAY
9:10:54PM FROM SOME OF THE ZONING HISTORY SO THE SITE PREVIOUSLY HAD A
9:10:57PM LAUNDROMAT ON-SITE.
9:10:59PM THIS IMAGE ON THE SCREEN IS NOT AN EXACT REPLICA OF WHAT WAS
9:11:03PM ON THE SITE.
9:11:03PM THIS IS A SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT.
9:11:05PM THE BUILDING WAS DEMO'D IN 2018.
9:11:07PM WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE LAUNDROMAT IS
9:11:11PM ACTUALLY A COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USE.
9:11:12PM THAT HAD BEEN EXISTING ON THE SITE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
9:11:14PM THAT IS NOT PERMITTED IN CN.
9:11:17PM THAT WASN'T ON -- THAT WAS A NONCONFORMING USE AND EXISTING
9:11:22PM ON THE CORNER FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
9:11:24PM I WON'T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THIS.
9:11:27PM ACCESS POINTS OFF OF SOUTH WESTSHORE, ALSO ALONG WEST BAY
9:11:31PM AVENUE.
9:11:32PM THE BUILDING IS A LITTLE OVER 3,000 SQUARE FEET.
9:11:34PM TWO TENANT BOX COMMERCIAL BUILDING WITH RETAIL AND
9:11:37PM RESTAURANT USAGE.
9:11:38PM AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE SOME BIKE RACKS DOWN THERE ON THE
9:11:41PM CORNER AS REQUESTED BY PLANNING COMMISSION.
9:11:42PM WE'RE INSTALLING ALL NEW SIDEWALKS AS WELL TO ENHANCE THE
9:11:45PM PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY IN THE AREA GIVEN IT IS A CORNER
9:11:49PM LOT.
9:11:49PM THIS IS THE RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
9:11:51PM I WANTED TO SHOW THIS IN THE BEGINNING SO YOU COULD GET
9:11:54PM SOMEWHAT OF AN IDEA OF WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED.
9:11:56PM MICHAEL WILL GO INTO A LOT MORE DETAIL ON THIS LAYOUT ALONG
9:12:01PM WITH HIS VISION.
9:12:02PM THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, MODERN LOOK AND THE
9:12:04PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS SEEN THIS AS WELL.
9:12:07PM THE APPLICATION WAS FOUND CONSISTENT BY THE PLANNING
9:12:09PM COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE OTHER DIFFERENT REVIEWING
9:12:12PM DEPARTMENTS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN FROM THE CITY.
9:12:15PM WE ARE REQUESTING THREE SETS OF WAIVERS IN CONJUNCTION WITH
9:12:18PM THE APPLICATION.
9:12:19PM MOST OF THEM WHICH I THINK WILL BE PRETTY FAMILIAR TO YOU,
9:12:22PM RELATING TO BUFFERS, TREES, AND THEN ALSO TRANSPORTATION.
9:12:25PM SO THE FIRST OF OUR TWO BUFFER WAIVERS IS IN REGARDS TO THE
9:12:30PM VIEW AREA, ALONG BOTH WEST BAY AVENUE AND SOUTH WEST SHORE
9:12:34PM BOULEVARD.
9:12:35PM AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE EIGHT FEET OF
9:12:38PM VEHICULAR USE AREA REDUCING THAT TO FIVE FEET ALONG WEST BAY
9:12:42PM AND 1.5 ALONG SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD.
9:12:45PM THIS SITE IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE IN THAT THERE'S EXTENSIVE
9:12:48PM OFF-SITE BUFFERING ALREADY PROVIDED IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
9:12:50PM THIS IS MUCH MORE THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR CODE WHEN YOU
9:12:53PM COMPILE THEM TOGETHER.
9:12:54PM WE'RE PROVIDING A TOTAL OF 20 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO
9:12:56PM THE ACTUAL ROADWAY ALONG WEST BAY AND THEN 30 FEET TOTAL
9:13:00PM BUFFER FROM WESTSHORE BOULEVARD OVER TO THE PROPERTY LINE ON
9:13:04PM THAT SIDE.
9:13:06PM OUR SECOND BUFFERING WAIVER IS USE BUFFER REQUEST.
9:13:11PM THE YELLOW IS WHAT IS REQUIRED.
9:13:13PM 15 FEET IS REQUIRED TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST.
9:13:16PM PROPOSING TO REDUCE THAT TO FIVE.
9:13:17PM IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE WILL HAVE RETAINING WALLS
9:13:20PM HERE LOCATED ALONG THE NORTH AND THE EAST AS MICHAEL
9:13:24PM REFERENCED, THE SITE WILL BE RAISED FOUR OR FIVE FEET TO
9:13:27PM COMPLY WITH THE NEW FEMA FLOOD MAPS.
9:13:29PM SO THERE WILL BE RETAINING WALLS ALONG THE EDGES OF THOSE
9:13:32PM BUFFERS.
9:13:33PM ALTHOUGH REDUCING THE WIDTH OF THE BUFFER WE DID WANT TO
9:13:36PM NOTE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING TREES AND LANDSCAPING IN THE
9:13:37PM BUFFER, TREES THAT ARE NOT REQUIRED IN THE 15 USE TO USE
9:13:41PM BUFFER.
9:13:41PM THE SECOND SET OF WAIVERS WE HAVE ARE RELATED TO TREES.
9:13:44PM THE FIRST ONE IS TO REMOVE THE GRAND LIVE OAK IN THE CORNER
9:13:47PM OF THE PLAN.
9:13:48PM TO BE COMPLETELY UP FRONT OUR ORIGINAL APPLICATION PROPOSED
9:13:51PM PRESERVING THAT TREE.
9:13:52PM AND WE HAD EVERY INTENTION OF DOING THAT.
9:13:55PM AS WE GOT INTO THE WEEDS OF THE DESIGN AND SORT OF SETTING
9:13:57PM THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION BASED OFF OF THE FLOOD MAPS, WE
9:14:01PM RAN INTO TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES, AND IT'S BOTH ONE ON THE
9:14:03PM GROUND LEVEL AND THEN ALSO ONE THAT'S ELEVATED.
9:14:05PM THE GROUND LEVEL BEING THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A SIGNIFICANT
9:14:08PM AMOUNT OF FILL ON THE SITE TO GET IT FOUR TO FIVE FEET IN
9:14:11PM THE AIR FROM WHERE IT STANDS TODAY.
9:14:13PM THAT PROPOSES A SIGNIFICANT BURDEN ON THE DRIP LINE FOR THE
9:14:16PM TREE.
9:14:17PM FROM A BIRD'S-EYE VIEW, WHENEVER WE RAISE THE SITE, WE HAVE
9:14:22PM VEHICLES ENTERING AND EXITING RIGHT NEXT TO THAT TREE.
9:14:24PM THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH VERTICAL CLEARANCE BETWEEN THE TREE AND
9:14:26PM THE TOP OF THE VEHICLE.
9:14:28PM THE AMOUNT OF PRUNING WE WOULD HAVE TO DO WOULD BE
9:14:29PM DESTRUCTIVE TO THE TREE.
9:14:31PM WE WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD ON THAT.
9:14:33PM THERE ARE REASONABLE RECONFIGURATION ALTERNATIVES WE
9:14:36PM SUBMITTED.
9:14:37PM AS MENTIONED, WE DID TRY TO SAVE THE TREE.
9:14:39PM THE SECOND ONE IS PROBABLY UNIQUE.
9:14:42PM I DON'T KNOW THAT WE BROUGHT IT BEFORE YOU.
9:14:44PM BASED OFF THE SITE, HOW SMALL IT IS, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE
9:14:47PM STORMWATER VAULTS FOR UNDERGROUND RETENTION.
9:14:49PM WE PROVIDE THOSE TYPICAL IN THE DRIVE AISLE AROUND WHERE THE
9:14:53PM PARKING IS FLANKING THE BUILDING.
9:14:55PM WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT TREES COULD BE SELECTED AND THEY
9:14:57PM COULD BE PROTECTED IN THOSE TERMINAL ISLANDS THAT WOULDN'T
9:15:00PM BE DISRUPTED BY THE UNDERGROUND STORMWATER VAULT.
9:15:03PM SO CONTROL SPECIFIC TREES THAT HAVE A CERTAIN ROOT RADIUS TO
9:15:07PM COMPLY WITH THE SPACING FOR THE VAULTS UNDERNEATH.
9:15:09PM THAT'S VERY TECHNICAL AND WE HAVE CIVIL AND LANDSCAPE THAT
9:15:12PM CAN ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THAT, TOO.
9:15:14PM JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THAT ONE.
9:15:16PM THE NEXT WAIVER IS ONE RELATED TO ACCESS.
9:15:19PM THIS IS TO PROVIDE COMMERCIAL ACCESS TO WEST BAY AVENUE.
9:15:22PM I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT
9:15:25PM THIS IS A REQUEST TO MAINTAIN EXISTING CONDITIONS.
9:15:27PM WE'RE NOT PROPOSING A NEW ACCESS WITH THIS.
9:15:30PM NOT INTRODUCING NEW ACCESS OFF OF WEST BAY.
9:15:33PM THIS HAS BEEN EXISTING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
9:15:35PM AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE HISTORICAL AERIALS OF THE SITE
9:15:37PM DATING ALL THE WAY BACK TO FEBRUARY IN 1995.
9:15:40PM IT'S VERY BLURRY, BUT YOU CAN STILL SEE THERE ARE
9:15:43PM CONNECTIONS BOTH ON WEST BAY AND WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
9:15:46PM AND THAT'S FROM '95 RANGING ALL THE WAY UP TO 2019 FOLLOWING
9:15:51PM THE DEMO OF THE BUILDING IN 2018.
9:15:54PM THIS ACCESS IS HISTORICAL TO THIS SITE.
9:15:56PM THIS IS NOT CHANGING.
9:15:57PM THIS IS NOT CHANGING LOCATION.
9:15:58PM THIS IS EXACTLY HOW IT IS TODAY, JUST IMPROVED TO COMPLY
9:16:01PM WITH STANDARDS.
9:16:02PM AND THEN THE FINAL WAIVER REQUEST WE HAVE IS THE PARKING
9:16:05PM WAIVER.
9:16:05PM THAT'S TO REDUCE FROM 28 SPACES TO 20 SPACES, WHICH IS A
9:16:09PM RELATIVELY MODERATE REQUEST.
9:16:11PM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE WITH THIS THAT IN LOOKING AT
9:16:13PM THE CITY'S PARKING CODE, THERE IS NO DIFFERENTIATION IN THE
9:16:16PM RATIO BETWEEN A WALK-IN RESTAURANT AND A DRIVE-THROUGH
9:16:20PM RESTAURANT.
9:16:21PM ALL THAT IS REQUIRED IS YOU PROVIDE EXTENSIVE QUEUING FOR
9:16:24PM DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANTS.
9:16:25PM WE FEEL AS IF 20 SPACES IS PLENTY FOR THE PATRONS THAT WILL
9:16:28PM ACCESS THE SITE BY PARKING AND GOING IN.
9:16:31PM AND WE ARE PROVIDING OVER 150 LINEAR FEET OF QUEUE WHICH IS
9:16:34PM SUFFICIENT FOR THESE OPERATIONS ON-SITE.
9:16:36PM WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO MICHAEL.
9:16:40PM HE'LL GO OVER SOME OF HIS EXTENSIVE OUTREACH WITH THE
9:16:43PM NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF HIS VISION AND
9:16:46PM PULL THE RENDERING BACK UP ON THE SCREEN FOR HIM ALSO.
9:16:50PM >> MICHAEL MURRAY.
9:16:52PM 4614 WEST LONG FELLOW AVENUE.
9:16:54PM WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, I TOLD MY KIDS I WAS GOING TO
9:16:59PM BUILD A COMMERCIAL BUILDING TO SELL THINGS.
9:17:01PM MY DAUGHTER, SHE IS SIX.
9:17:04PM SHE ASKED IF SHE COULD SELL HER SEASHELLS IN ONE OF THE
9:17:07PM BUILDINGS.
9:17:07PM I TOLD HER YES.
9:17:09PM SO LETTING YOU DOWN WOULD BE LETTING HER DOWN.
9:17:12PM I PROMISE NOT TO LET YOU DOWN.
9:17:14PM THERE WILL BE SOME SEASHELLS FOR SALE AT ONE POINT IN TIME.
9:17:18PM WHEN I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY, I HAD A VISION FOR IT.
9:17:21PM DIDN'T REALLY KNOW EXACTLY HOW IT WAS ALL GOING TO COME
9:17:24PM TOGETHER, BUT I FORMED A REALLY AWESOME TEAM.
9:17:26PM ONE OF THE FIRST TEAM MEMBERS WAS ROB BLOUNT, RDB DESIGN.
9:17:32PM TOGETHER I HIRED HIM TO TAKE MY VISION AND PUT IT INTO A
9:17:37PM RENDERING.
9:17:38PM THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN TO YOUR RIGHT.
9:17:41PM I WANTED SOME SORT OF COFFEE, DOUGHNUTS, NEIGHBORHOOD
9:17:48PM SERVICES, AND THROUGH A RELATIONSHIP I HAVE IN THE COFFEE
9:17:52PM BUSINESS, I BROUGHT THIS DESIGN TO HIM AND SAID HERE'S WHAT
9:17:57PM I'M THINKING.
9:17:57PM I LOVE LOCAL.
9:17:58PM I'M COMING TO YOU FIRST.
9:18:00PM IT'S A WELL KNOWN LOCAL BRAND THAT YOU ALL KNOW.
9:18:03PM I SAID HERE'S WHAT I'M THINKING, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED?
9:18:06PM HE SAID ABSOLUTELY.
9:18:09PM THEY WANT TO OPEN UP A STORE ABOUT A YEAR, AND THIS WOULD BE
9:18:12PM AN AWESOME PLAN FOR 2023.
9:18:15PM BUT BEFORE I BROUGHT THIS TO THE NEXT STEP, WHICH TO GO
9:18:20PM FORWARD WITH A LOT OF THE EXPENSES TO GET THIS HERE TO YOU
9:18:24PM TO THIS DAY, I WANTED TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:18:27PM SO MY FIRST STEP WAS TO REACH OUT TO THE ASSOCIATIONS AND I
9:18:31PM GOT IN TOUCH WITH STEPHANIE POYNOR WHO INVITED ME TO GANDY
9:18:35PM CIVIC CENTER.
9:18:36PM I MET WITH INTERBAY AND BALLAST POINT AND GANDY CIVIC AND
9:18:41PM THAN AND I PRESENTED THIS CONCEPT TO THEM.
9:18:44PM THEY ASKED ME TO COME BACK ABOUT TWO WEEKS LATER TO A
9:18:47PM QUARTERLY CIVIC ASSOCIATION MEETING.
9:18:49PM AT THIS TIME I TOOK THESE PHOTOS.
9:18:51PM I BLEW THEM UP ON A BIG POSTER BOARD AND PRESENTED AT THE
9:18:54PM GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND THE AUDIENCE WAS IN COMPLETE
9:18:58PM SUPPORT.
9:18:59PM I RECEIVED NOTHING BUT SUPPORT FROM ANYBODY THAT I BROUGHT
9:19:03PM THIS CONCEPT TO INCLUDING, I KNOW STEPHANIE POSTED ON HER
9:19:08PM SOCIAL MEDIA.
9:19:08PM I'VE READ ALL THE COMMENTS.
9:19:10PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS THIS.
9:19:13PM THEY NEED IT.
9:19:14PM ALL NEIGHBORHOODS NEED SOMETHING LOCAL IN THE COMMERCIAL TO
9:19:18PM GO HAVE AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY AS A MEETING POINT.
9:19:21PM SO THAT GAVE ME THE ENERGY TO GET BEHIND THIS AND TO GO
9:19:26PM FORWARD.
9:19:31PM IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE RETAIL OR RESTAURANT BUSINESS
9:19:34PM TODAY, PRE-COVID IT WAS 80% SIT-DOWN, DINE-IN, 20%
9:19:38PM DRIVE-THROUGH.
9:19:38PM TODAY IT IS COMPLETELY FLIP-FLOPPED.
9:19:40PM IT'S 20% SIT-DOWN INSIDE AND 80% IN THE DRIVE-THROUGH.
9:19:45PM THE DRIVE-THROUGH IS A NECESSITY FOR THIS PROJECT TO GO
9:19:51PM FORWARD.
9:19:51PM AS YOU KNOW ON GANDY BOULEVARD TO THE NORTH, THERE IS A
9:19:54PM BRAND-NEW STARBUCKS THAT HAS A DRIVE-THROUGH.
9:19:56PM OBVIOUSLY THE DUNKIN' DONUTS HAS A DRIVE-THROUGH.
9:20:00PM THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS REALLY PREDICATED ON THE CONCEPT THAT
9:20:04PM WE PUT FORTH WITH THE DRIVE-THROUGH AND, AS TYLER MENTIONED,
9:20:08PM THE PD LIMITS US TO THIS.
9:20:11PM THIS IS MY PLAN.
9:20:12PM I HAVE MY TENANTS LINED UP SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED AND
9:20:17PM WITHIN 12, 24 MONTHS, HOPEFULLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL HAVE
9:20:22PM WALKING, GOLF CART, BIKING DISTANCE TO COFFEE AND POSSIBLY
9:20:28PM ICE CREAM.
9:20:29PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:20:30PM OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.
9:20:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: KNOWING THAT DRIVE-THROUGHS CAN DISRUPT
9:20:39PM RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PUT A TIME ON
9:20:44PM LIKE AN OPENING AND CLOSING TIME ON YOUR SITE PLAN?
9:20:48PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
9:20:48PM WE DISCUSSED THAT ALREADY.
9:20:50PM I BELIEVE CITY CODE IS 10 P.M., AND I WOULD DEFINITELY BE
9:20:57PM OPEN TO ADHERING TO CITY CODE.
9:20:59PM WE'RE NOT TRYING TO OPEN UP TACO BELL DRIVE-THROUGH THAT'S
9:21:03PM OPEN ALL NIGHT.
9:21:04PM I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF WHAT IT COULD BE.
9:21:07PM I DON'T THINK A BRAND LIKE THAT WOULD OPEN IN A SECONDARY
9:21:10PM STREET.
9:21:10PM WESTSHORE BOULEVARD IS A MAIN THOROUGHFARE, BUT IT'S NOT
9:21:13PM GANDY.
9:21:13PM IT'S NOT KENNEDY.
9:21:14PM I THINK THE LOCAL BRANDS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO WANT
9:21:17PM TO BE A PART OF THE PROJECT.
9:21:19PM TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES.
9:21:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY OTHER QUESTION GOES TO THE NEIGHBORS TO
9:21:24PM THE EAST AND THE NORTH AND HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT BOTH THE
9:21:29PM WALLS AND THE BUFFERING.
9:21:36PM THE 15 FEET BUFFER TO 5 FEET BUFFER AND THE TYPE OF
9:21:41PM VEGETATION IS WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT.
9:21:44PM >> I'M GLAD YOU ASKED.
9:21:45PM I FAILED TO MENTION THAT I ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY MAILED
9:21:48PM LETTERS TO EVERY SURROUNDING HOUSE.
9:21:50PM I RECEIVED ONE CALL BACK.
9:21:52PM MOST OF THE LETTERS WERE TO AN OUT-OF-STATE ADDRESS, BUT THE
9:21:57PM KWIK STOP CALLED ME UP AND INVITED ME INTO THE KWIK STOP.
9:22:01PM I'VE CONTINUED TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
9:22:03PM THEY ARE GOING TO BE VERY GOOD NEIGHBORS.
9:22:07PM AND THEN THE NEIGHBOR DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF 4733 WEST
9:22:10PM BAY, REALLY, THE NUMBER ONE PROPERTY TO BE CONCERNED, I
9:22:15PM ACTUALLY SAT IN HER DRIVEWAY ON A SUNDAY MORNING, AND I JUST
9:22:18PM WALKED UP THE DRIVEWAY, INTRODUCED MYSELF.
9:22:23PM WELCOMED ME IN.
9:22:24PM WE SAT IN HER DRIVEWAY IN HER CHAIRS.
9:22:27PM I SHOWED HER THE PROJECT.
9:22:29PM SHE'S BEEN THERE OVER 30 YEARS.
9:22:31PM SHE COMMENTED TO THE FACT THAT THAT AREA HAS ALWAYS BEEN
9:22:35PM SLUMMY AND SHE LOVED THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN IT
9:22:38PM UP.
9:22:39PM SHE HAD ONE REQUEST.
9:22:40PM SHE WANTED US TO BUILD A PRIVACY FENCE.
9:22:43PM CURRENTLY IN HER BACKYARD THERE IS A CHAIN-LINK FENCE.
9:22:46PM IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT THE ENTIRE EXISTENCE OF HER TIME THERE.
9:22:50PM SHE SAID I ALWAYS WANTED A NICE PRIVACY FENCE FOR MY
9:22:53PM BACKYARD.
9:22:54PM SHE HAS A SWIMMING POOL.
9:22:56PM I TOLD HER I WOULD BUILD HER THE NICEST PRIVACY FENCE SHE'S
9:23:00PM EVER SEEN.
9:23:01PM SHE'S VERY, VERY APPRECIATIVE.
9:23:02PM SHE HAS MY CELL PHONE NUMBER AND SHE CAN CONTACT ME ANYTIME.
9:23:07PM MY INTENTION IS TO BUILD, PROBABLY OVERBUILD.
9:23:11PM MY EYES ARE BIGGER THAN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD REALLY
9:23:15PM AFFORD, BUT I LIKE NICE PLACES TO VISIT MYSELF.
9:23:20PM THINK BAY TO BAY.
9:23:21PM THERE IS A NICE CONCEPT SIMILAR OR MAYBE IDENTICAL TO WHAT
9:23:26PM I'M THINKING.
9:23:27PM I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS EXTREMELY NICE.
9:23:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:23:31PM I APPRECIATE IT.
9:23:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
9:23:33PM MR. HUDSON, DOES THIS CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION?
9:23:39PM THANK YOU.
9:23:40PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
9:23:44PM ITEM NUMBER 14, FILE REZ-22-115?
9:23:55PM >> GOOD EVENING.
9:23:56PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:23:58PM I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
9:24:00PM THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE I WAS GOING TO SAY.
9:24:03PM I DON'T WANT A LAUNDROMAT THERE.
9:24:05PM I DON'T WANT ANYTHING THAT THEY CAN PUT THERE BY RIGHT.
9:24:07PM THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.
9:24:08PM IN THE CHHA MEETING, WE'VE HAD FOUR MEETINGS IN THE LAST 24
9:24:13PM HOURS AND IN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS, PEOPLE
9:24:17PM BROUGHT UP THIS DEVELOPMENT.
9:24:19PM THEY ARE SO EXCITED ABOUT IT.
9:24:21PM PLEASE SUPPORT IT.
9:24:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS
9:24:28PM AGENDA ITEM?
9:24:29PM MR. HUSAIN, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY?
9:24:33PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: I'M JUST HERE.
9:24:35PM SO IF APPROVED, MODIFICATION BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
9:24:38PM READING AS PER THE REVISION SHEET AND ALSO WE ARE GOING TO
9:24:41PM ADD HOURS OF OPERATION ON THE SITE PLAN ALSO, IS THAT
9:24:44PM CORRECT?
9:24:44PM GREAT.
9:24:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE.
9:24:49PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:24:51PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:24:53PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:24:54PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
9:24:55PM WHO WANTS TO READ THIS ONE?
9:24:59PM HOW ABOUT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
9:25:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:25:02PM ITEM NUMBER 14, FILE REZ-22-115, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
9:25:09PM FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
9:25:11PM PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 6112 SOUTH WEST SHORE
9:25:14PM BOULEVARD AND 4733 WEST BAY AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
9:25:19PM FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM
9:25:23PM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 (RESIDENTIAL,
9:25:27PM SINGLE-FAMILY) AND CN (COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD) TO PD
9:25:32PM (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESTAURANT, DRIVE-IN AND RETAIL SALES
9:25:35PM SHOPPER'S GOODS); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:25:38PM AND THE ZONING WILL ALLOW BETTER UTILIZATION OF THE LAND
9:25:43PM THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE
9:25:46PM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN
9:25:50PM ON THE SITE PLAN PROMOTES AND ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS
9:25:53PM APPROPRIATE IN THE LOCATION, CHARACTER, AND COMPATIBILITY
9:25:56PM WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, PROPOSES TO PROMOTE --
9:26:00PM USE OF LAND AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
9:26:02PM THE DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS UNIQUE AND
9:26:04PM THEREFORE IN NEED OF WAIVERS.
9:26:06PM THE REQUESTED WAIVERS ARE NOT -- DO NOT SUBSTANTIALLY
9:26:09PM INTERFERE OR INJURE THE RIGHTS OF OTHER PROPERTIES AND WOULD
9:26:12PM BE AFFECTED BY THE WAIVERS.
9:26:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
9:26:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:26:18PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:26:20PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
9:26:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
9:26:26PM >> VIERA?
9:26:27PM MANISCALCO?
9:26:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
9:26:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
9:26:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:26:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
9:26:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
9:26:35PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT.
9:26:40PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JANUARY 5th,
9:26:44PM 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
9:26:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE ADOPTED THE
9:26:57PM AGENDA.
9:26:57PM I BELIEVE WE'RE AT AGENDA NUMBER 9.
9:27:01PM AGENDA NUMBER 9, REZ-22-61.
9:27:08PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
9:27:09PM THIS PROPOSED REZONING IS AT THE LOCATION 3602 NORTH 50th
9:27:15PM STREET AND 3501 NORTH 46th STREET.
9:27:19PM THE PROPOSED REZONING FROM RM 16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO
9:27:22PM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, FUNERAL PARLOR AND CEMETERY.
9:27:27PM I'LL NOW PASS ALONG TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
9:27:42PM >> GOOD EVENING.
9:27:43PM EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
9:27:45PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA
9:27:48PM PLANNING DISTRICT, EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE AND THE HIGHLAND
9:27:53PM PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:27:53PM THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS LOCATED ALONG NORTH 50th
9:27:57PM STREET.
9:27:57PM GRANT PARK IS THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY LOCATED 0.35
9:28:02PM MILES NORTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE SITE IS NOT
9:28:05PM LOCATED WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE.
9:28:07PM HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
9:28:12PM THE SURROUNDING AREA CONTAINS A MIXTURE OF SINGLE-FAMILY
9:28:18PM HOMES, LIGHT COMMERCIAL USES ALONG NORTH 50th STREET AND
9:28:22PM SEMI-PUBLIC USES.
9:28:24PM THIS IS AN EXISTING CEMETERY.
9:28:26PM HERE IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP
9:28:35PM OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
9:28:36PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THREE DESIGNATIONS, THE COMMUNITY
9:28:41PM MIXED USE 35 IN THE PINK, THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 IN THE
9:28:47PM RED, AND THE R 20 IN THE BROWN.
9:28:50PM THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ALSO EXISTS HERE AND THE PUBLIC,
9:28:58PM SEMI-PUBLIC THAT'S BLUE IS THE EXISTING CEMETERY.
9:29:01PM AND THIS IS R 10 WHICH IS THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
9:29:05PM THE FUNERAL HOME CAN BE CONSIDERED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY
9:29:09PM MIXED USE 35 AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 DESIGNATIONS, AND A
9:29:13PM CEMETERY CAN BE CONSIDERED WITHIN ALL THREE FUTURE LAND USE
9:29:16PM DESIGNATIONS.
9:29:18PM THE PROPOSED FUNERAL HOME AND CEMETERY WOULD BE APPROPRIATE,
9:29:21PM COMPARABLE, AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
9:29:24PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROMOTES PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND
9:29:28PM ENCOURAGES COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT ENHANCES THE CITY OF
9:29:31PM TAMPA'S CHARACTER AND AMBIENCE BY REQUIRING NEW COMMERCIAL
9:29:35PM DEVELOPMENT TO CONNECT BUILDING ENTRANCES TO PUBLIC
9:29:38PM RIGHTS-OF-WAY.
9:29:39PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN A MIXED USE CORRIDOR IN A TRANSIT
9:29:44PM EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
9:29:47PM THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT HAS SOMEWHAT SATISFIED THE PLAN
9:29:48PM DIRECTION BY PROVIDING A FRONT DOOR THAT FACES THE PUBLIC
9:29:51PM RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS TO THE PARKING LOT
9:29:54PM AND NORTH 50th STREET.
9:29:56PM HOWEVER, A SIDEWALK CONNECTION TO NORTH 46th STREET AND A
9:30:01PM SIDEWALK ALONG NORTH 46th STREET IS NOT PROVIDED.
9:30:04PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REQUESTS A SIDEWALK CONNECTION AND
9:30:07PM SIDEWALK BE PROVIDED ON NORTH 46th STREET BETWEEN FIRST
9:30:11PM AND SECOND READING.
9:30:12PM THE SITE PLAN ALSO LACKS CRITICAL INFORMATION THAT PLANNING
9:30:16PM COMMISSION STAFF REQUIRES TO EVALUATE IF A REQUEST IS
9:30:19PM CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
9:30:22PM DUE TO THE APPLICATION NOT DELINEATING THE FUTURE LAND USE
9:30:25PM DESIGNATIONS AND NOT PROVIDING THE ACREAGE OF EACH FUTURE
9:30:29PM LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE SITE PLAN, PLANNING COMMISSION
9:30:31PM STAFF CANNOT DETERMINE IF THE PROPOSED PD IS CONSISTENT WITH
9:30:35PM THE INTENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER EACH FUTURE LAND USE
9:30:41PM DESIGNATION.
9:30:41PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REQUESTS THE APPLICANT PROVIDE THE
9:30:44PM ACREAGE AND DELINEATE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON A
9:30:48PM SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
9:30:51PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF IS CONCERNED WITH THE LOSS OF
9:30:59PM WETLAND ON THE SUBJECT SITE.
9:31:01PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPEAKS TO PROTECTING WETLANDS BY
9:31:05PM COOPERATING WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION COMMISSION.
9:31:08PM ON THE ELMO ARE POLICIES THAT ARE DIRECTLY FROM THE
9:31:12PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT
9:31:15PM THAT SPEAK TO COORDINATING WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
9:31:20PM COMMISSION REGARDING WETLANDS.
9:31:22PM DEVELOPMENT IS PROHIBITED WITHIN DESIGNATED WETLANDS AS
9:31:26PM DELINEATED BY EPC AND THERE SHOULD BE NO NET LOSS OF WETLAND
9:31:30PM FUNCTIONS.
9:31:31PM THE CURRENT DESIGN DOES NOT PROTECT OR PROVIDE BUFFERS FOR
9:31:35PM THE WETLAND.
9:31:35PM THE BUILDING AND PARKING ARE PLACED ON TOP OF THE WETLAND
9:31:39PM WITHOUT APPROVED MITIGATION PLAN.
9:31:41PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO WORK
9:31:43PM WITH NATURAL RESOURCES AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
9:31:46PM COMMISSION TO MINIMIZE ANY POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
9:31:51PM IN CONCLUSION, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST
9:31:54PM INCONSISTENT DUE TO THE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE DESIGNATED
9:31:56PM WETLAND AND THE AFOREMENTIONED INFORMATION BETWEEN FIRST AND
9:31:59PM SECOND READINGS.
9:32:01PM THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
9:32:10PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
9:32:11PM I'LL GO FIRST AND SHARE MY AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT
9:32:17PM PROPERTY.
9:32:18PM AS YOU SEE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED.
9:32:27PM THE PROPOSED REZONING IS FOR A FUNERAL PARLOR AND CEMETERY.
9:32:31PM THIS DEVELOPMENT IS FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING
9:32:34PM CEMETERY TO THE NORTH.
9:32:36PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL VIEW, YOU'LL SEE TO THE NORTH AND
9:32:40PM WEST ARE ZONED RO 1 AND RM 16.
9:32:46PM IT IS DEVELOPED WITH THE CEMETERY THAT'S BEING EXPANDED.
9:32:49PM THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ARE ZONED RM 16 AND CG AND
9:32:52PM DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND VACANT
9:32:56PM LAND.
9:32:56PM THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH ARE ZONED RS 60 AND DEVELOPED WITH
9:33:01PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
9:33:05PM AND THE PROPOSED HEIGHT OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS FOR 35 FEET IN
9:33:09PM HEIGHT AS I WILL SHOW YOU THE SITE PLAN TO COME.
9:33:21PM THE PROPOSED HEIGHT IS FOR 35 FEET IN HEIGHT.
9:33:24PM THE TOTAL PARKING IS FOR 82 PARKING SPACES REQUIRED AND THE
9:33:28PM APPLICANT IS PROVIDED 141 PARKING SPACES.
9:33:32PM THE ACCESS COMES FROM NORTH 50th STREET AND NORTH 46th
9:33:37PM STREET.
9:33:39PM THE WHOLE SITE CONTAINS 16.91 ACRES OR 736,635 SQUARE FEET.
9:33:47PM CURRENTLY, THE LAND BEING PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED ON IS
9:33:51PM VACANT AT THIS TIME.
9:33:54PM THE PROPOSED FUNERAL HOME RIGHT HERE IS FOR 18,240 SQUARE
9:34:04PM FEET.
9:34:05PM AND THE PROPOSED CEMETERY SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 446,870 SQUARE
9:34:12PM FEET.
9:34:12PM I'LL GO AHEAD AND SHOW THE ELEVATIONS PROVIDED BY THE
9:34:20PM APPLICANT.
9:34:23PM THIS IS THE WEST ELEVATION OF THE FUNERAL HOME.
9:34:38PM THIS IS THE NORTH ELEVATION.
9:34:47PM THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
9:34:52PM AND THE EAST ELEVATION.
9:34:58PM AS I WENT OUT TO THE SITE AND TOOK PICTURES, I'LL SHOW YOU
9:35:07PM WHAT THE CURRENT SITE LOOKS LIKE.
9:35:16PM TREES AND VACANT LAND.
9:35:27PM MORE TREES AND VACANT LAND.
9:35:29PM HERE I AM FACING NORTH 50th STREET RIGHT HERE.
9:35:38PM AND A CLOSER VIEW OF NORTH 50th STREET.
9:35:45PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOUR WAIVERS.
9:35:54PM THESE ARE FROM URBAN DESIGN, TRANSPORTATION, AND NATURAL
9:35:58PM RESOURCES.
9:35:59PM UPON REVIEW, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS
9:36:02PM REVIEWED THE PETITION AND FINDS THE REQUEST TO BE
9:36:04PM INCONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OF REGULATIONS.
9:36:07PM THESE FINDINGS COME FROM NATURAL RESOURCES, DEVELOPMENT
9:36:11PM COORDINATION, TRANSPORTATION, AND ALSO THE PLANNING
9:36:13PM COMMISSION.
9:36:14PM IF APPROVED, MODIFICATIONS MUST BE MADE TO THE SITE PLAN
9:36:17PM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AS PER THE REVISION SHEET.
9:36:20PM I HAVE ERIN HERE FROM NATURAL RESOURCES WHO HAS SOME
9:36:24PM COMMENTS.
9:36:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:36:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU PUT THAT SITE PLAN BACK ON?
9:36:32PM ERIN MIGHT BE SPEAKING TO THIS, BUT I HAVE TO ASK ANYWAY.
9:36:35PM ZOOM IN.
9:36:40PM I SEE THE WORD WETLAND RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING
9:36:45PM LOT.
9:36:45PM IS THAT WHERE THE WETLANDS ARE OR DO WE NOT KNOW?
9:36:51PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
9:36:51PM THE WETLAND -- SO, ERIN MAEHR, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
9:36:57PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
9:36:58PM THE WETLAND IS SHOWN HERE.
9:37:00PM I ALSO HAVE IT SHOWN HERE ON THIS PLAN IN BLUE SHOWING WHERE
9:37:12PM THE WETLAND IS LOCATED.
9:37:13PM IT HASN'T BEEN DELINEATED BY EPC, BUT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED A
9:37:21PM CONSULTANT WHO DID A SURVEY OF THE WETLAND.
9:37:23PM BUT THOSE LINES HAVE NOT BEEN AFFIRMED BY EPC.
9:37:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT IF WE APPROVE THIS, WE'RE BASICALLY
9:37:31PM APPROVING BUILDING A PARKING LOT IN A WETLAND.
9:37:35PM >> IT IS CONDITIONAL UPON EPC'S APPROVAL OF THE ENTITLEMENTS
9:37:39PM OF THIS PROJECT.
9:37:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THERE A REASON WE DON'T HAVE THOSE
9:37:43PM ALREADY?
9:37:47PM >> THE APPLICANT HAS NOT SUBMITTED THEM.
9:37:50PM WE HAVE REQUESTED THEM.
9:37:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:37:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT, THAT WHOLE
9:37:57PM AREA RIGHT THERE FLOODS TREMENDOUSLY.
9:38:02PM CORRECT?
9:38:05PM >> I DO NOT KNOW THAT INFORMATION.
9:38:07PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT PORTION THERE IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE
9:38:10PM BACK END OF EITHER MYRTLE OR GARDNER MEMORIES, CORRECT?
9:38:16PM AM I CORRECT?
9:38:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD HAVE YOU THAT ON THE RECORD, PLEASE?
9:38:20PM >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
9:38:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIGHT.
9:38:26PM BACKS UP INTO IT.
9:38:27PM THAT BLOCK PIECE -- THOSE SETS OF TREES ARE, IF I'M NOT
9:38:32PM MISTAKEN, ANYTIME IT RAINS, TPD HAS TO GO OUT THERE AND
9:38:39PM CLOSE THAT WHOLE STREET OFF.
9:38:40PM AM I CORRECT?
9:38:41PM WE DON'T KNOW.
9:38:43PM >> I DO NOT KNOW THAT.
9:38:45PM >> I DO NOT KNOW IF TPD CLOSES THE STREET OFF.
9:38:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, I WOULD THINK TRANSPORTATION WOULD
9:38:52PM KNOW THAT BECAUSE THAT STREET IS CLOSED OFF BECAUSE IT'S
9:38:57PM UNDER WATER SEVERELY.
9:38:59PM WHEN I GO LAKE, GOES TO THE FORK HERE, YOU'VE GOT I THINK
9:39:09PM COSENTINO MONUMENT -- GOING EAST TO THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, I
9:39:22PM BELIEVE -- DO WE HAVE INFORMATION ON THAT AREA, JONATHAN?
9:39:34PM >> JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION AND PLANNING.
9:39:38PM I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THAT.
9:39:39PM HAVE TO WORK THESE OUT DURING PERMITTING IF THERE ARE THINGS
9:39:42PM LIKE THAT.
9:39:42PM I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
9:39:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: REALLY?
9:39:48PM THAT'S VERY INTERESTING.
9:39:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW IF STORMWATER ATTENDS THESE
9:39:59PM MEETINGS, BUT WOULD THAT BE A QUESTION FOR STORMWATER?
9:40:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
9:40:04PM I KNOW 100% --
9:40:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU -- I KNOW WHAT
9:40:09PM YOU'RE ABOUT TO FINISH WITH THAT SENTENCE, BUT I'M GOING TO
9:40:12PM ASK YOU, TO, IF YOU CAN, ELICIT THAT, THAT'S GREAT.
9:40:16PM YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEE WHAT THE PETITIONER KNOWS.
9:40:22PM I DON'T KNOW WHO SELLS PRESENT WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO KNOW IT.
9:40:27PM BUT IT'S WORTHY OF DISCOVERY AND DISCUSSION, BUT PLEASE DO
9:40:30PM NOT USE YOUR OWN PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE TO TESTIFY, ESPECIALLY
9:40:34PM IF THAT'S WHAT THE COURT IS GOING TO BASE ITS DECISION ON.
9:40:38PM THANK YOU.
9:40:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:40:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU SHOW PHOTOS OF THE SITE ALREADY?
9:40:42PM CAN I SEE THEM REAL QUICK JUST TO SEE EXACTLY -- I SEE
9:40:48PM 50th STREET.
9:40:49PM BUT I WANT TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE IT IS.
9:40:55PM >> THE SITE IS PREDOMINANTLY WOODED AREA.
9:40:59PM VACANT LAND.
9:41:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER PHOTOS?
9:41:11PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH ACCESS INTO THE ACTUAL
9:41:14PM WOODED AREA.
9:41:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:41:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
9:41:31PM >> CAN I CONTINUE ON?
9:41:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
9:41:35PM >> ERIN MAEHR, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
9:41:38PM NATURAL RESOURCES HAS A FINDING OF INCONSISTENT.
9:41:40PM I WANT TO SPEAK TO WHY THIS IS.
9:41:42PM YOU CAN SEE HERE FROM THE SITE PLAN THAT THE WETLAND IS
9:41:45PM ALMOST COMPLETELY COVERED OVER WITH EITHER DRIVE AISLES OR
9:41:48PM THE BUILDING ON THE SITE PLAN HERE.
9:41:53PM AND THIS HAS BEEN A VERY CHALLENGING SITE PLAN TO REVIEW FOR
9:41:57PM NATURAL RESOURCES BECAUSE IT LACKS THE EPC WETLAND
9:42:01PM DELINEATION AND THE APPROVAL OF THE IMPACTS TO THE WETLAND.
9:42:04PM WHILE THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A CONSULTANT TO SURVEY THE
9:42:07PM WETLAND, THE WETLAND LINES HAVE NOT BEEN DELINEATED BY EPC
9:42:10PM AND NOR HAVE THE IMPACTS TO THE WETLAND BEEN REVIEWED BY
9:42:14PM EPC.
9:42:15PM TYPICALLY AT THIS STAGE, WHEN PROJECTS ARE BEING HEARD BY
9:42:18PM CITY COUNCIL, THESE ITEMS ARE REQUESTED.
9:42:21PM THEY ARE PROVIDED TO NATURAL RESOURCES FOR EVALUATION AND
9:42:25PM REVIEW.
9:42:26PM SO COUNCIL, MY COMMENTS ARE PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
9:42:31PM IF YOU REFER TO BULLET 1, THERE ARE TWO CODE SECTIONS
9:42:36PM LISTED.
9:42:36PM NOTE THAT 27-287.5 DOES NOT APPLY AS THIS APPLIES TO UPLAND
9:42:42PM HABITAT OVERLAY DISTRICT.
9:42:44PM HOWEVER, THE FIRST CODE SECTION LISTED, 27-286-A DOES APPLY.
9:42:50PM I WILL READ THAT NOW INTO THE RECORD.
9:42:52PM ALL DEVELOPMENT LANDWARD OF A WETLAND SHALL BE DESIGNED SO
9:42:57PM AS TO MINIMIZE ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS ON THE WETLAND AND ITS
9:43:02PM HYDROPERIOD AND SHALL BE CONDUCTED IN A MANNER THAT WILL
9:43:05PM ENSURE THAT SOIL EROSION OR OTHER DISCHARGE OF CONTAMINANTS
9:43:08PM WILL NOT OCCUR TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE WETLAND.
9:43:11PM IN ADDITION TO THESE -- IN ADDITION TO THAT ITEM THAT
9:43:17PM SUPPORTS THIS IN THE REPORT, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CODE
9:43:20PM SECTIONS THAT I WILL NOW REFERENCE.
9:43:23PM SO STARTING WITH THE DEFINITION OF WHAT A WETLAND IS, IN
9:43:27PM SECTION 27-43, A WETLAND IS DEFINED AS LAND THAT IS
9:43:32PM INUNDATED OR SATURATED BY SURFACE OR GROUNDWATER IN YEARS OF
9:43:36PM NORMAL WATER CONDITIONS THAT FALLS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF
9:43:39PM ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AGENCIES.
9:43:41PM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, THE U.S.
9:43:44PM ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER
9:43:48PM MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL
9:43:51PM PROTECTION COMMISSION, AND THE TAMPA PORT AUTHORITY.
9:43:54PM AND SECTION 27-136 ALSO SPEAKS TO NATURAL RESOURCES ELEMENTS
9:44:03PM THAT I WILL ALSO NOW READ INTO THE RECORD.
9:44:06PM NUMBER ONE IS TO PROMOTE THE EFFICIENT AND SUSTAINABLE USE
9:44:10PM OF LAND AND INFRASTRUCTURE WITH CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF
9:44:12PM POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS ON ON-SITE NATURAL ELEMENTS
9:44:17PM SURROUNDING IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOODS AND CULTURE RESOURCES.
9:44:20PM ITEM NUMBER 5, 27-136-5 WHICH IS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF
9:44:27PM REPORT ENCOURAGES FLEXIBLE LAND DEVELOPMENT WHICH REDUCES
9:44:31PM TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, CONSERVES ENERGY AND WILL MAXIMIZE THE
9:44:34PM PRESERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES SUCH AS STREAMS, LAKES,
9:44:38PM FLOODPLAINS, GROUNDWATER, WOODED AREAS, UPLANDS, AND AREAS
9:44:42PM OF UNUSUAL BEAUTY OR IMPORTANCE TO THE NATURAL ECOSYSTEM.
9:44:46PM OPEN SPACE, GREENSPACE AND HISTORICAL AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL
9:44:50PM SITES.
9:44:50PM AND ITEM 6, 27-136.6, PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT
9:44:56PM WHERE APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION, CHARACTER, AND COMPATIBILITY
9:44:59PM WITH THE SURROUNDING IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOODS, BUILT
9:45:02PM ENVIRONMENT, AND EXISTING GEOGRAPHY.
9:45:04PM SO FOR ALL THESE REASONS LISTED ABOVE, NATURAL RESOURCES HAS
9:45:09PM FOUND THIS INCONSISTENT IN REGARDS TO THE WETLAND.
9:45:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:45:18PM SEE, WE LET PEOPLE GO, AND THEN THEY YELL AT US FOR NOT
9:45:18PM FIXING THE FLOODING.
9:45:18PM I'M JUST SAYING.
9:45:18PM ALL RIGHT, PETITIONER?
9:45:29PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
9:45:38PM I'M AFRAID WE DON'T HAVE DAVID SINGER.
9:45:42PM RAN A LITTLE TOO LATE FOR HIM.
9:45:44PM YOU'RE STUCK WITH ME.
9:45:46PM MATT NEWTON, SHUMAKER, LOOP & KENDRICK, 101 EAST KENNEDY
9:45:49PM BOULEVARD, SUITE 2800 HERE IN TAMPA.
9:45:52PM I'M JOINED BY MY ABLE COLLEAGUES LIZ KELLAR AND COLIN RICE.
9:45:56PM ONLINE WE HAVE THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE, JOHN GARON, AS
9:46:01PM WELL AS DR. DALE MERYMAN, AN ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST.
9:46:06PM NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
9:46:14PM AS MENTIONED WE ARE IN EAST TAMPA.
9:46:16PM HERE RIGHT BETWEEN HIGHLAND PARK AND GRANT PARK, NEXT SLIDE.
9:46:25PM AS ZAIN MENTIONED, THIS IS AN EXPANSION OF A LARGE EXISTING
9:46:29PM CEMETERY.
9:46:30PM LAND USE OBJECTIVE 19.6 DISCUSSES CEMETERIES AS A VITAL
9:46:35PM COMPONENT OF THE CITY'S OPEN SPACE NETWORK, TREASURE AND
9:46:37PM CULTURAL RESOURCES AND PROVIDE GREAT VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY
9:46:42PM IN TERMS OF OPEN SPACE, PASSIVE GREENSPACE, SOLITUDE,
9:46:45PM WILDLIFE HABITAT, AND MATURE TREES.
9:46:47PM OF COURSE, THERE'S NOT MANY MORE NEW CEMETERIES BEING BUILT.
9:46:51PM IT IS A BIT OF AN ENDANGERED RESOURCE IN THE CITY.
9:46:54PM THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THE GARDEN OF MEMORIES
9:46:57PM EASTWARD AND THE DRIVING POINT OF THIS IS TO TRANSITION OUT
9:47:05PM OF THIS EXISTING FUNERAL HOME, WHICH HAS ACCESS FROM 40th
9:47:08PM OFF OF LAKE STREET HERE AND PROPOSE A NEW FUNERAL HOME OFF
9:47:12PM OF 50th STREET WITH DIRECT ACCESS OFF OF THIS MAJOR
9:47:15PM CORRIDOR.
9:47:16PM NEXT SLIDE.
9:47:17PM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OF COURSE, ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF
9:47:23PM CEMETERY RELATED USES.
9:47:27PM THE CENTRO ESPANOL CEMETERY DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH, GARDEN OF
9:47:31PM MEMORIES, OF COURSE, TO THE WEST.
9:47:32PM SOME OPEN STORAGE TO THE SOUTHWEST, EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY
9:47:36PM TO THE SOUTH, A GROUP CARE FACILITY HERE RIGHT NORTH AND
9:47:41PM THEN ABOVE THAT AN EXISTING BANK.
9:47:45PM SO AN ADDITIONAL CEMETERY USE IS CERTAINLY COMPATIBLE AND
9:47:49PM CONSISTENT AND IS IN HARMONY WITH THE VARIOUS COMPREHENSIVE
9:47:52PM PLAN ELEMENTS, CONCERNS SUCH AS LAND USE POLICY 1.2.3, LAND
9:47:57PM USE OBJECTIVE 9.3 AND LAND USE POLICY 15.2.1.
9:48:01PM NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
9:48:03PM THE EXISTING SITE, WHICH I WALKED YESTERDAY AND WAS COVERED
9:48:10PM IN BURRS, IS LARGELY AN EXISTING GREEN FIELD HERE.
9:48:17PM VARIOUS EXISTING TREES.
9:48:19PM IN FACT, THERE'S 11 GRAND TREES ON-SITE.
9:48:22PM THE WETLANDS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AT LENGTH ALREADY.
9:48:25PM EASTERN FRONTAGE HERE ALONG THE EAST AND THEN BUFFERING AND
9:48:29PM SCREENING TO THE SOUTH IS KIND OF SPARSE TREES WITH AN
9:48:33PM EXISTING CHAIN-LINK FENCE WHICH IS LARGELY PROVIDING THE
9:48:38PM EXISTING SCREENING.
9:48:40PM MOST OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES ON-SITE ARE GOING TO BE
9:48:48PM PRESERVED BECAUSE IN THE CEMETERY SETTING LARGE GRAND TREES,
9:48:52PM GREEN FIELDS, THOSE ARE AMENITIES.
9:48:56PM SO, OF COURSE, EVERYTHING HERE TO THE WEST WHERE THE
9:48:58PM PROPOSED CEMETERY IS GOING TO REMAIN OR IS GOING TO BE
9:49:03PM PROPOSED IS GOING TO LARGELY BE NATURAL HERE, COUNCILMAN
9:49:09PM GUDES, A VERY LARGE STORMWATER POND WILL BE INSTALLED HERE
9:49:12PM TO MAKE SURE THAT SURFACE WATER STAYS ON-SITE.
9:49:16PM AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE FLOODING OF THIS PART OF TOWN
9:49:20PM AND SHUTTING DOWN THE ROADS, BUT HOPEFULLY A STORMWATER
9:49:23PM SYSTEM APPROVED BY S.W.F.W.M.D. WILL RESOLVE THAT.
9:49:29PM ALONG THE SOUTH HERE, WE ARE PROPOSING UPGRADED BUFFERING
9:49:31PM AND SCREENING, ALTHOUGH WE WOULD LIKE A WOODEN FENCE, WE
9:49:35PM FEEL LIKE THAT'S ARCHITECTURALLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE
9:49:38PM ENVISIONING HERE.
9:49:39PM AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE PROPOSED FUNERAL HOME HERE CLOSE TO
9:49:43PM 50th STREET WHICH IS IN HARMONY WITH THE URBAN VILLAGE,
9:49:49PM WITH DIRECT ACCESS PEDESTRIAN TO THE SIDEWALKS OVER HERE.
9:49:52PM AS DISCUSSED, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAIVERS.
9:50:02PM FIRST, WE WOULD LIKE TO PAY INTO THE SIDEWALK FUND AS
9:50:05PM OPPOSED TO INSTALLING SIDEWALKS.
9:50:07PM AS A DEVELOPMENT ADVOCATE, AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF
9:50:10PM TAMPA, I NORMALLY, AND AS I SAY TO CLIENTS, SIDEWALKS ARE A
9:50:16PM LONG-TERM GOAL.
9:50:18PM ESSENTIALLY PUZZLE PIECES.
9:50:20PM I DON'T BUY INTO THE SIDEWALK TO NOWHERE FALLACY BECAUSE
9:50:23PM LONG-TERM PROJECTS YOU WANT TO HAVE A SIDEWALK HERE, 50
9:50:26PM YEARS LATER IT MAY CONNECT TO SOMETHING ELSE.
9:50:28PM FIVE YEARS LATER IT MAY CONNECT TO SOMETHING ELSE.
9:50:32PM HERE, WHICH IS WHERE THE SIDEWALK WOULD BE DEVELOPED, WE'RE
9:50:35PM FLANKED BY CEMETERIES.
9:50:39PM THERE ARE CONDITIONS OR GOALS, RATHER, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
9:50:42PM PLAN THAT MAKE IT VERY HARD TO TURN A CEMETERY INTO
9:50:44PM SOMETHING ELSE, TO RESPECT REMAINS.
9:50:49PM ESSENTIALLY, ONCE A CEMETERY, ALWAYS A CEMETERY.
9:50:52PM SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A VISION WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE
9:50:54PM RESIDENTIAL MOVING IN HERE, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
9:50:58PM THIS ROAD GOES ALL THE WAY UP HERE WHICH ARE ALL CEMETERIES
9:51:02PM ON EITHER SIDE.
9:51:03PM WE WOULD LIKE THE OPTION TO PAY INTO THE FUND, HAVE
9:51:06PM SIDEWALKS BE PLACED ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY WHERE THERE ARE
9:51:09PM RESIDENTIAL USES, WHERE THERE ARE MIXED USE, BETTER TAKEN
9:51:14PM ADVANTAGE OF WITH THOSE RESOURCES AS OPPOSED TO PLACING THE
9:51:18PM SIDEWALK HERE.
9:51:20PM ADDITIONAL WAIVERS, THE FAMILIAR ONE ABOUT ACCESS TO A LOCAL
9:51:26PM STREET, AGAIN, THE 46th STREET, WE HAVE AN ANCILLARY
9:51:31PM ACCESS THERE.
9:51:32PM THAT KIND OF PLUGS INTO THE EXISTING FUNERAL HOME OR
9:51:35PM CEMETERY.
9:51:36PM SO THAT'S THE GOAL OF THAT.
9:51:38PM SINCE THIS IS IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT, WE NEED A
9:51:42PM WAIVER TO EXCEED 30% OF LANDSCAPE AREA AS GRASS.
9:51:45PM OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A UNIQUE USE THAT'S VERY GRASS DEPENDENT.
9:51:49PM SO WE NEED A WAIVER FOR THAT.
9:51:51PM WE ALSO REQUEST TO REMOVE ONE OF THE 11 GRAND TREES ON-SITE.
9:51:57PM AGAIN, THAT IS ALWAYS DISAPPOINTING, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS
9:52:02PM USE.
9:52:03PM BUT IT IS NECESSARY TO MAXIMIZE AND TAKE REASONABLE USE OF
9:52:06PM THE SITE.
9:52:07PM NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
9:52:08PM SO TO EMPHASIZE 46th STREET, THIS IS AN IMAGE I TOOK
9:52:16PM YESTERDAY.
9:52:16PM YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING WALKING PATHS TO THE CEMETERY HERE
9:52:20PM TO THE WEST, OR THE LEFT SIDE.
9:52:23PM THIS IS THE SITE HERE ON THE RIGHT.
9:52:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS THE SIDE STREET.
9:52:34PM >> 46th STREET RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTHWEST.
9:52:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BACK INTO HIGHLAND PINES.
9:52:50PM >> 46th STREET IS HERE.
9:52:52PM THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IMAGES OF.
9:52:55PM AND THEN GARDEN OF MEMORIES EXISTING IS HERE AND THIS IS THE
9:52:58PM VACANT PARCEL.
9:52:59PM THIS IS THE ESPANOL CENTRO CEMETERY HERE TO THE NORTH.
9:53:03PM DOES THAT ORIENT YOU, COUNCILMAN?
9:53:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OH, I KNOW EXACTLY.
9:53:12PM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:53:13PM I GO THERE A LOT.
9:53:19PM >> THIS IS THE SAME STREET FACING SOUTH.
9:53:21PM AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING BERM HERE AND THEN THE
9:53:25PM CEMETERY HERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
9:53:30PM PIVOTING TO THE WETLANDS, I COULD CERTAINLY HEAR
9:53:36PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S DISAPPOINTMENT AND FRUSTRATION.
9:53:40PM THESE WETLANDS WERE DISCOVERED ON-SITE RECENTLY, NOT SUPER
9:53:45PM RECENTLY.
9:53:45PM THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN PENDING FOR 280 DAYS.
9:53:49PM AFTER THE PROCESS, THESE WERE DISCOVERED.
9:53:54PM OUR HOPE IS TO NOT GET SPECIAL TREATMENT.
9:53:57PM WE WANT TO DEPEND ON THE ABLE PROFESSIONALS AT EPC AFTER
9:54:01PM APPROVAL TO EVALUATE THE MITIGATION PLAN, GO THROUGH ANY
9:54:07PM PROCESS AS IF THIS WERE ALREADY ENTITLED FOR A CEMETERY AND
9:54:11PM THEN, OF COURSE, IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT, WE WOULD
9:54:14PM NEED TO COME BACK.
9:54:16PM DR. MERRYMAN IS AVAILABLE ONLINE.
9:54:20PM HE HAS GONE OUT TO THE SITE TO INSPECT THE WETLANDS.
9:54:23PM WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT THESE ARE NOT PRISTINE WETLANDS
9:54:27PM AND THAT A MITIGATION PLAN WILL BE WORKED OUT WITH EPC.
9:54:31PM OF COURSE, WE ARE TAKING THAT RISK BY FOLLOWING THAT PROCESS
9:54:34PM AFTER ZONING AS OPPOSED TO CONCURRENT OR BEFORE, BUT WE ARE
9:54:38PM COMFORTABLE WITH THAT PLAN AND OBVIOUSLY WE WILL BE VERY
9:54:43PM EMBARRASSED IF WE DO HAVE TO COME BACK AFTER THE FACT.
9:54:45PM WE ARE NOT INSENSITIVE TO THIS.
9:54:52PM I UNDERSTAND.
9:54:54PM I UNDERSTAND THE POLICIES.
9:54:55PM HERE IT REALLY IS A BALANCING ACT BETWEEN THESE WETLANDS AND
9:54:58PM DEPENDING ON THE EPC PROCESS AND THE S.W.F.W.M.D. PROCESS
9:55:02PM AND GOING THROUGH MITIGATION EITHER ON-SITE OR THROUGHOUT
9:55:05PM THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE OWNER OR FURTHER
9:55:10PM KEEPING THIS PARCEL VACANT WHEN WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
9:55:14PM UPGRADE A FACILITY THAT WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.
9:55:19PM I'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE THAT DEATH CARE IS HEALTH CARE.
9:55:24PM TENDS TO BE NEGLECTED AS PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT THIS IS AN
9:55:29PM ASSET THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY MOVING
9:55:31PM FORWARD.
9:55:31PM IN CONCLUSION, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE IS AN OUTDATED
9:55:40PM FUNERAL HOME HERE WITH ACCESS FROM LAKE.
9:55:43PM HERE, A SITE WHERE WE HAVE DIRECT ACCESS OFF OF A MAIN ROAD,
9:55:50PM A NATURAL TRANSITION, COMPATIBLE, CONSISTENT WITH NUMBER OF
9:55:55PM LAND USE OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES THAT FAVOR COMPATIBILITY
9:56:00PM AND LIKE USES.
9:56:01PM UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN WITH THE WETLANDS, BUT WE
9:56:07PM RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL AND TO
9:56:12PM TRUST THE ABLE FOLKS AT EPC BETWEEN NOW AND DEVELOPMENT.
9:56:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:56:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK LEGAL, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
9:56:26PM YEARS, THE CITY HAS HAD A CEMETERY DUMPED ON US BECAUSE THE
9:56:30PM FAMILY RAN OUT OF MONEY.
9:56:32PM I KNOW THE STATE REGULATES TRUST FUNDS AND EVERYTHING, ARE
9:56:37PM WE ALLOWED TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FINANCIAL
9:56:40PM VIABILITY OF THIS OR HOW THE TAXPAYERS IN TAMPA MIGHT GET
9:56:43PM STUCK WITH THIS ONE DAY IN THE FUTURE?
9:56:48PM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
9:56:51PM SINCE YOU ARE CONSIDERING THIS AS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING,
9:56:54PM ANY QUESTIONS THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE WOULD RELATE TO THE
9:56:57PM CRITERIA IN CHAPTER 27.
9:56:59PM SO FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF A PROJECT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT.
9:57:04PM WHILE I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, IT'S NOT PART OF COUNCIL'S
9:57:07PM CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.
9:57:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
9:57:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
9:57:14PM MR. SHELBY.
9:57:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS RELEVANT OR MAY NOT BE, AND IT'S A
9:57:22PM QUESTION MAYBE PERHAPS FOR LEGAL OR THE CITY STAFF, IS THE
9:57:26PM RELEVANCY OF HAVING TO HAVE THE EPC DELINEATION BEFORE IT
9:57:36PM COMES TO COUNCIL.
9:57:38PM WHAT IS THE EFFECT IF IT'S NOT DONE AND COUNCIL GRANTS IT?
9:57:43PM IS IT NOT ABLE TO BE PERMITTED?
9:57:45PM I GUESS THAT IS A QUESTION THAT MAY BE RELEVANT, WHETHER
9:57:48PM THIS IS APPROPRIATE TO GRANT WITHOUT THAT APPROVAL,
9:57:51PM DEPENDING ON WHAT THE CODE SAYS.
9:57:53PM YOU HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE FOR THAT IF YOU WANT TO INQUIRE
9:57:56PM FURTHER.
9:58:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY WANT TO INQUIRE ANY FURTHER?
9:58:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO CLOSE.
9:58:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:58:12PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO MAKE COMMENT
9:58:16PM TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, FILE REZ-22-61?
9:58:21PM SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
9:58:27PM >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
9:58:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:58:29PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:58:31PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:58:33PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:58:34PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:58:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I TAKE THIS ONE?
9:58:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
9:58:45PM I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO TAKE CARE OF IT SINCE COUNCILMAN
9:58:48PM GUDES HAS REJECTED IT.
9:58:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M JUST SHOCKED THAT THIS CAME IN FRONT OF
9:58:54PM US.
9:58:54PM FILE NUMBER REZ-22-61, I MOVE TO DENY THIS FOR THE PROPERTY
9:59:00PM LOCATED AT 3602 NORTH 50th STREET AND 3501 NORTH 46th
9:59:06PM STREET DUE TO THE FAILURE OF THE APPLICANT TO MEET ITS
9:59:09PM BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL
9:59:12PM EVIDENCE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AS CONDITIONED AND SHOWN ON
9:59:15PM THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
9:59:18PM CITY CODE AND THE APPLICANT'S FAILURE TO MEET ITS BURDEN OF
9:59:21PM PROOF WITH RESPECT TO THE REQUESTED WAIVERS.
9:59:24PM I ALSO ADOPT THE FINDINGS AND READINGS OF BOTH THE PLANNING
9:59:28PM COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF REPORTS.
9:59:30PM BASICALLY, THE FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE GOALS,
9:59:34PM OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUCH AS,
9:59:38PM ALTHOUGH THE PROPOSED USE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, COMPATIBLE
9:59:40PM WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, THE PROPOSED REZONING RESULTS IN
9:59:43PM A LOSS OF WETLANDS ON THE SITE.
9:59:45PM THE CURRENT DESIGN DOES NOT PROTECT OR PROVIDE BUFFERS FOR
9:59:48PM THE WETLAND.
9:59:50PM INSTEAD IT PLACES THE PARKING AND FUNERAL HOME DIRECTLY OVER
9:59:53PM THE WETLAND IN VIOLATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES 1.9.9 AND
9:59:59PM 1.9.10.
10:00:02PM AND -- YEAH, I'LL STOP THERE.
10:00:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:00:20PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:00:21PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:00:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:00:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
10:00:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:00:34PM >> VIERA?
10:00:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
10:00:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:00:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:00:49PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO, VIERA
10:00:54PM ABSENT AT VOTE, AND MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
10:01:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, FILE REZ-22-99.
10:01:20PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:01:21PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, CASE REZ-22-99 FOR THE LOCATION, 4621
10:01:28PM EAST LAKE AVENUE.
10:01:29PM PROPOSED REZONING FROM RM 16 TO RM 24, RESIDENTIAL
10:01:36PM MULTIFAMILY.
10:01:36PM PASS IT ALONG TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
10:01:52PM >> EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
10:01:54PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA
10:01:57PM DISTRICT AND THE HIGHLAND PINES NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:02:00PM THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS LOCATED NORTHEAST ON DR. MARTIN
10:02:03PM LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD.
10:02:06PM CHARLES B. MYRTLE HILL MEMORIAL PARK IS THE CLOSEST
10:02:11PM RECREATIONAL FACILITY LOCATED DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE SUBJECT
10:02:13PM SITE AND THE SITE IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE.
10:02:17PM HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
10:02:21PM IT'S HERE IN PURPLE.
10:02:22PM THE SURROUNDING AREA IS CHARACTERIZED BY A MIX OF
10:02:26PM SINGLE-FAMILY, PUBLIC, SEMI-PUBLIC AND LIGHT COMMERCIAL
10:02:29PM USES.
10:02:31PM THE CITY OF TAMPA OWNS PARCELS TO THE NORTH HERE,
10:02:35PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OWNS PARCELS TO THE EAST AND THERE IS A
10:02:38PM CEMETERY TO THE SOUTH.
10:02:40PM HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
10:02:47PM AGAIN, THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE, AND IT'S IN PURPLE AND THE
10:02:52PM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 DESIGNATION IS ALL OF THIS RED.
10:02:57PM AND ALL OF THE BLUE IS PUBLIC, SEMI-PUBLIC AND OVER HERE
10:03:01PM FURTHER TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS CMU 35.
10:03:04PM THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT IS
10:03:09PM CONSISTENT WITH THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION
10:03:12PM PER THE CONSISTENCY MATRIX IN SECTION 27-21 OF THE LAND
10:03:17PM DEVELOPMENT CODE.
10:03:18PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS ONE BLOCK SOUTH OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER
10:03:21PM KING JR. BOULEVARD, A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
10:03:26PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES RESIDENTIAL INFILL IN
10:03:28PM AREAS PROXIMITY TO EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND COMMERCIAL
10:03:31PM SERVICES.
10:03:32PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A MIXED USE CORRIDOR AND
10:03:36PM FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE SHOULD ADDRESS MIXED USE
10:03:39PM CORRIDOR POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
10:03:42PM THE PROPOSED RM 24 ZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT
10:03:46PM IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE
10:03:48PM SURROUNDING USES AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
10:03:51PM PATTERN UNDER THE CC-35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
10:03:55PM THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
10:03:57PM DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:03:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS.
10:04:00PM THANK YOU.
10:04:04PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:04:05PM I'LL GO AHEAD AND SHOW THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.
10:04:08PM THIS IS QUITE CLOSE TO THE LAST CASE.
10:04:22PM PROPOSED REZONING 4621 EAST LAKE AVENUE.
10:04:26PM PROPOSED REZONING FROM RM-16, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, TO
10:04:30PM RM-24, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY.
10:04:33PM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY IS FOR RESIDENTIAL
10:04:36PM MULTIFAMILY USES.
10:04:37PM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONTAINS 5,375 SQUARE FEET OR
10:04:44PM APPROXIMATELY .12 ACRES.
10:04:47PM THE GENERAL VICINITY IS SOUTH OF EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING
10:04:52PM JR. BOULEVARD, EAST OF NORTH 46th STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE
10:04:59PM AND EAST LAKE AVENUE ALSO ALONG THE SOUTH.
10:05:02PM THE SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT AT THIS TIME.
10:05:07PM THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY VACANT LAND TO THE EAST AND THE
10:05:10PM WEST, AS I'LL SHOW YOU IN PICTURES TO COME.
10:05:13PM THERE IS ALSO MYRTLE, HILL, MEMORIAL PARK TO THE NORTH.
10:05:17PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE SOUTH, AND RM 16 ZONING IS
10:05:23PM ON ALL SIDES OF THE PROPERTY.
10:05:24PM THE PROPERTY ALSO TO THE SOUTH OF EAST 32nd AVENUE IS
10:05:29PM VACANT AND ALSO PART OF THE CEMETERY USE ON LAKE AVENUE AS
10:05:33PM YOU SEE HERE TO THE SOUTH.
10:05:35PM THE PROPOSED REZONING TO RM 24 WILL ALLOW FOR TWO UNITS ON
10:05:43PM THE SITE WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING USES IN
10:05:47PM THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
10:05:48PM I'LL GO AHEAD AND SHOW THE PICTURES I TOOK WHEN I WENT
10:05:52PM ON-SITE.
10:05:52PM THE VACANT SITE AS IS.
10:06:00PM TO THE NORTHEAST, YOU HAVE VACANT LAND HERE.
10:06:14PM ALSO A LITTLE BIT FARTHER TO THE NORTH, YOU HAVE A MONUMENT
10:06:18PM SHOP THAT CREATES MONUMENTS FOR THE CEMETERY TO THE SOUTH.
10:06:22PM TO THE SOUTH YOU'LL HAVE RESIDENTIAL, ALSO THE CEMETERY
10:06:33PM BEHIND THAT.
10:06:34PM AND TO THE NORTH YOU'LL HAVE MYRTLE HILL MEMORIAL PARK.
10:06:47PM DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
10:06:57PM WHOLE APPLICATION AND FINDS THE OVERALL REQUEST TO BE
10:06:59PM CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
10:07:01PM I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
10:07:04PM YES, SIR.
10:07:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU HAVE TO CATCH ME BECAUSE I
10:07:08PM GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE HERE.
10:07:10PM ZAIN, YOU KNOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS.
10:07:14PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND --
10:07:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PHRASE IT IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION.
10:07:22PM SORRY, SIR.
10:07:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE FENCES UP AROUND THEM.
10:07:38PM PEOPLE ARE DYING TO GET IN.
10:07:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DID STORMWATER EVEN TAKE A LOOK AT THESE
10:07:44PM AREAS AT ALL?
10:07:45PM THAT IS MY BIGGEST THING RIGHT NOW.
10:07:47PM JONATHAN, DID STORMWATER GO OUT THERE AND EVALUATE?
10:07:55PM >> OUR WHOLE STAFF, AND THAT GOES UP AND DOWN THE LADDER
10:07:57PM FROM TRANSPORTATION, STORMWATER, SOLID WASTE, THEY LOOK AT
10:08:00PM EVERY SINGLE CASE, EVERY SINGLE PROJECT UP AND DOWN.
10:08:03PM THIS CASE WAS FOUND CONSISTENT ON EVERY SINGLE LEVEL.
10:08:08PM THIS IS FOUND CONSISTENT OVERALL.
10:08:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A SUGGESTION, COUNCIL, MIGHT BE THAT IF
10:08:17PM STORMWATER -- JUST AS JONATHAN SCOTT IS HERE TONIGHT AND
10:08:20PM JONATHAN IS A REGULAR VISITOR TO CITY COUNCIL AND IS HERE TO
10:08:24PM ANSWER QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO TRANSPORTATION, IF
10:08:26PM STORMWATER IS AN ISSUE, THEN MAYBE WE HAVE TO --
10:08:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: STORMWATER IS AN ISSUE.
10:08:35PM TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THERE KNOWING THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM
10:08:39PM THERE, AND THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE CURRENTLY LIVING THERE,
10:08:45PM SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T EVEN GET OUT OF THE HOME BECAUSE WE
10:08:48PM CLOSE THE STREET OUT FOR WEEKS.
10:08:50PM I HAVE A PROBLEM -- I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, AND I
10:08:57PM THINK -- I JUST THINK SOMEHOW STORM HAS TO DO A BETTER
10:09:01PM EVALUATION OF THAT AREA RIGHT THERE.
10:09:03PM BECAUSE TO ME WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION PROBLEMS AND WE HAVE
10:09:06PM HEALTH CONCERNS TO THE PUBLIC THERE.
10:09:09PM I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.
10:09:11PM I GET IT, BUT I SEE PROBLEMS HERE, MORE FUTURE PROBLEMS.
10:09:19PM I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS BECAUSE THE AREA AND THE
10:09:25PM NATURAL RESOURCES AROUND THIS AREA, TO ME IT'S A HAZARDS.
10:09:32PM IT'S A HAZARD FOR ME.
10:09:33PM [INAUDIBLE]
10:09:43PM YOU KNOW THERE IS A PROBLEM THERE.
10:09:45PM BRING THIS STUFF BEFORE US FOR THIS BODY TO -- I JUST DON'T
10:09:51PM UNDERSTAND.
10:09:51PM THANK YOU, HUSAIN.
10:09:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU FINISHED?
10:09:59PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
10:10:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:10:01PM ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:10:02PM PETITIONER?
10:10:05PM I BELIEVE THEY ARE ONLINE.
10:10:15PM >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, WE'RE CURRENTLY HAVE -- JUAN IS
10:10:19PM CURRENTLY HAVING TECHNICAL ISSUES.
10:10:23PM I BELIEVE HE'S ON CELL PHONE.
10:10:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CELL PHONE, YOU CAN'T SEE HIM.
10:10:32PM >>THE CLERK: CORRECT.
10:10:33PM I'M NOT EVEN ABLE TO ELEVATE HIM BECAUSE HE'S ON A CELL
10:10:38PM PHONE.
10:10:39PM HE DOESN'T HAVE VIDEO CAPABILITY AT THIS MOMENT.
10:10:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM.
10:10:52PM LET'S GO WITH ITEM NUMBER 12.
10:10:55PM FILE NUMBER REZ-22-101.
10:11:01PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:11:03PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, CASE REZ-22-101, THIS IS FOR A
10:11:08PM PROPOSED REZONING AT THE LOCATION 4523 WEST CHESTNUT STREET.
10:11:13PM PROPOSED REZONING FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
10:11:17PM DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
10:11:18PM I'LL NOW PASS IT ALONG TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AT THIS
10:11:22PM TIME.
10:11:32PM >> EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
10:11:34PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE WESTSHORE PLANNING
10:11:37PM DISTRICT AND THE CARVER CITY LINCOLN GARDENS NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:11:41PM THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS WEST SPRUCE STREET AND NORTH
10:11:45PM WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
10:11:46PM LORETTA INGRAHAM CENTER PARK IS THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL
10:11:50PM FACILITY LOCATED HALF A MILE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
10:11:53PM THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN LEVEL C EVACUATION ZONE.
10:11:56PM THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
10:12:02PM IT IS HERE IN PURPLE.
10:12:03PM THERE IS A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST.
10:12:07PM JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL AND ROLAND PARK MAGNET SCHOOL ARE TO
10:12:11PM THE SOUTH AND A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL USES ARE TO THE WEST.
10:12:15PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS RIGHT HERE.
10:12:21PM IT'S HARD TO SEE WITH THE NUMBER ON IT.
10:12:24PM IT'S REPRESENTED WITH THE REGIONAL MIXED USE 100
10:12:28PM DESIGNATION, WHICH IS THE PINKISH COLOR TO THE NORTH, EAST
10:12:34PM AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND AGAIN THIS IS THE SCHOOL,
10:12:37PM WHICH IS WHY IT IS THE PUBLIC --
10:12:42PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN A MIXED USE CORRIDOR AND TO
10:12:45PM THE WEST IS NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, A TRANSIT EMPHASIS
10:12:48PM CORRIDOR.
10:12:49PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS DISTRICT
10:12:51PM AND WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
10:12:54PM PER THE CITY OF TAMPA, URBAN DESIGN, THE SITE MEETS THE
10:12:58PM STANDARDS WHICH SUPPORT POLICY DIRECTION WITHIN THE
10:13:00PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
10:13:01PM THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES A DENSITY OF 58 UNITS PER
10:13:04PM ACRE.
10:13:05PM APPROXIMATELY 58% OF WHAT CAN BE CONSIDERED UNDER THE
10:13:08PM REGIONAL MIXED USE 100 DESIGNATION.
10:13:11PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED USES IN
10:13:14PM INTENSITY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
10:13:17PM ANTICIPATED.
10:13:18PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE
10:13:22PM RETAIL SERVICE COMMERCIAL AND OTHER PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED USES
10:13:26PM ALONG MIXED USE CORRIDORS TO BE ORIENTED TOWARD THE STREET
10:13:29PM BY PLACING THEM TOWARD THE FRONT OF PROPERTIES WITH ENTRIES
10:13:32PM AND STOOPS FRONTING THE STREET.
10:13:34PM THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS ORIENTED TOWARD NORTH TRASK STREET
10:13:39PM CONSISTENT WITH MIXED USE CORRIDOR AND MULTIFAMILY DESIGN
10:13:42PM POLICY DIRECTION.
10:13:43PM THE PROPOSED REZONING SUPPORTS MANY OF THE POLICIES IN THE
10:13:46PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING THE CITY'S
10:13:50PM POPULATION.
10:13:50PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON VACANT LAND
10:13:53PM AND UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO ENSURE THAT AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF
10:13:58PM HOUSING IS AVAILABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S PRESENT
10:14:01PM AND FUTURE POPULATIONS.
10:14:02PM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
10:14:04PM PATTERN ANTICIPATED UNDER THE REGIONAL MIXED USE 100
10:14:07PM DESIGNATION AND IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
10:14:09PM SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
10:14:11PM THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
10:14:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:14:16PM THANK YOU.
10:14:19PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:14:20PM I'LL FIRST GO AHEAD AND SHARE THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE
10:14:25PM PROPERTY.
10:14:26PM THE PROPOSED REZONING IS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY
10:14:35PM WITH RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY USES.
10:14:37PM THE SUBJECT SITE CONTAINS LOT AREA OF 5,296 SQUARE FEET OR
10:14:44PM .122 ACRES.
10:14:46PM IT'S LOCATED AT THE LOCATION OF NORTHEAST INTERSECTION OF
10:14:49PM WEST CHESTNUT STREET AND NORTH TRASK.
10:14:55PM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT THIS TIME IS CURRENTLY NOT
10:14:59PM DEVELOPED.
10:15:00PM THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO THE
10:15:05PM EAST, A SCHOOL TO THE SOUTH, COMMERCIAL TO THE WEST AND ALSO
10:15:09PM TO THE NORTH, AS I'LL SHOW YOU TO COME.
10:15:12PM THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND EAST OF THE SITE IS ZONED PD.
10:15:17PM THIS PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED WITH 300 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
10:15:21PM DWELLING UNITS AS KNOWN AS THE LAND TOWER WESTSHORE
10:15:25PM APARTMENTS.
10:15:25PM DIRECTLY WEST OF THE SITE ACROSS TRASK IS ZONED CI OVER
10:15:31PM HERE.
10:15:31PM AND THAT'S DEVELOPED WITH A RESTAURANT.
10:15:34PM TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, ACROSS WEST CHESTNUT IS
10:15:38PM ZONED RS 50, AND THIS IS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
10:15:45PM AND THE EXISTING PD AT THE SITE WAS APPROVED FOR A FIVE
10:15:51PM STORY STRUCTURE OVER ONE STORY OF PARKING FOR DWELLINGS OF
10:15:56PM FIVE DWELLING UNITS.
10:15:57PM THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT WAS 65 FEET TALL AND
10:16:01PM THE SETBACKS WERE APPROVED FOR THREE FEET IN THE FRONT,
10:16:05PM THREE FEET ON THE CORNER, AND REAR OF ALSO THREE FEET.
10:16:10PM THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THIS PROPOSED REZONING IS FOR
10:16:14PM 70 FEET IN HEIGHT, AS I'LL SHOW YOU ON THE SITE PLAN RIGHT
10:16:18PM HERE.
10:16:19PM THE PROPOSED HEIGHT IS FOR 70 FEET IN HEIGHT.
10:16:35PM AS YOU SEE THE SETBACKS TO THE WEST ARE THREE FEET, SOUTH
10:16:38PM TWO FEET, NORTH THREE FEET, AND EAST THREE FEET.
10:16:42PM I'LL NOW GO AHEAD AND SHOW THE ELEVATIONS PROVIDED BY THE
10:16:47PM APPLICANT.
10:16:52PM THE ELEVATION TO THE WEST.
10:17:05PM THE ELEVATION TO THE EAST, THE ELEVATION TO THE SOUTH AND
10:17:14PM THE ELEVATION TO THE NORTH.
10:17:15PM AS I WILL SHOW YOU THE AERIAL ONE MORE TIME, ACCESS TO THE
10:17:31PM SITE COMES FROM WEST CHESTNUT STREET, WEST BOYSCOUT TO THE
10:17:36PM NORTH, INTERNATIONAL MALL ALSO TO THE NORTH.
10:17:40PM THE LAND TOWER APARTMENTS AS I'LL SHOW YOU TO COME AND THE
10:17:43PM RESTAURANT ON THE WEST SIDE AS I'LL SHOW YOU TO COME.
10:17:46PM THERE IS A WAIVER REQUESTING FOR THREE PARKING SPACES.
10:17:53PM SO REQUIRED BY CODE, THEY NEED TO HAVE 12 PARKING SPACES AND
10:17:58PM THE APPLICANT ABLE TO PROVIDE NINE PARKING SPACES WHICH IS A
10:18:02PM 25% REDUCTION.
10:18:03PM I WILL SHOW YOU THE SITE AS IS, CURRENTLY VACANT.
10:18:07PM VACANT SITE, TRASK, WHICH LEADS TO BOYSCOUT.
10:18:19PM YOU HAVE THE LAND TOWER APARTMENTS RIGHT HERE TO THE EAST.
10:18:28PM AS YOU'LL SEE THE INTERSECTION HERE, WEST CHESTNUT AND WEST
10:18:34PM TRASK, AND THE SUBJECT SITE, VACANT AT THIS TIME.
10:18:37PM AT THE CORNER HERE, TRASK, BOYSCOUT, INTERNATIONAL TO THE
10:18:52PM NORTH.
10:18:53PM TO THE WEST, YOU HAVE THE COMMERCIAL RESTAURANT.
10:19:08PM LOOKING EAST HERE, CHESTNUT, LAND TOWER APARTMENTS, AND
10:19:15PM JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL, THE SPORTS FIELDS OVER HERE.
10:19:21PM A BETTER VIEW OF THE SPORTS FIELD.
10:19:24PM THERE IS A BASEBALL STADIUM, A FOOTBALL STADIUM.
10:19:31PM AS YOU SEE, THE LAND TOWER WESTSHORE APARTMENTS TO THE EAST,
10:19:41PM THESE ARE SIX FEET IN HEIGHT, WHICH IS COMPARABLE TO THE 70
10:19:45PM FEET IN HEIGHT PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT.
10:19:51PM DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
10:19:55PM APPLICATION AND FINDS THE REQUEST TO BE INCONSISTENT WITH
10:19:57PM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
10:19:59PM THAT IS DUE TO THE ONE TRANSPORTATION WAIVER.
10:20:03PM IF APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, THE APPLICANT MUST PROVIDE
10:20:07PM REVISIONS TO THE REVISION SHEET BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
10:20:09PM READING.
10:20:10PM I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:20:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:20:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [INAUDIBLE]
10:20:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:20:40PM THANK YOU.
10:20:43PM PETITIONER?
10:20:53PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
10:20:54PM STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER FOR THIS
10:20:57PM PARTICULAR PROJECT.
10:20:59PM YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED THAT THE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS
10:21:02PM EXTREMELY HIGH.
10:21:03PM IT'S REGIONAL MIXED USE 100, WHICH IS A VERY INTENSIVE LAND
10:21:07PM USE DESIGNATION.
10:21:08PM IT'S ONE OF THE HIGHEST IF NOT THE HIGHEST IN THE CITY.
10:21:11PM YOU ALSO MIGHT HAVE NOTICED THAT IT INDICATES IN THE STAFF
10:21:15PM REPORT THAT THIS IS A HIGH TRAFFIC AND TRANSIT AREA THAT'S
10:21:20PM CAPABLE OF HANDLING A LOT OF TRAFFIC, AS WELL AS PROVIDING
10:21:24PM TRANSPORTATION NEEDS OTHER THAN SINGLE OWNERSHIP OF
10:21:29PM VEHICLES.
10:21:30PM THIS IS A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR, WHICH IS SUITABLE FOR
10:21:34PM INTENSIFICATION, AND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT DOES EXACTLY
10:21:39PM THAT.
10:21:40PM IT IS A MIXED USE CORRIDOR, AND IT IS IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF
10:21:42PM THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT THE GRADUAL TRANSITION
10:21:46PM AND TRANSPORTATION OF ROAD NETWORKS AND INTENSIFICATION TO
10:21:50PM BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE TRANSPORTATION.
10:21:52PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE,
10:21:56PM RETAIL, SERVICE COMMERCIAL, AND OTHER PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED
10:21:59PM DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.
10:22:01PM WE ARE PROVIDING SEVEN UNITS.
10:22:07PM WE'RE REQUESTING SEVEN UNITS WITH NINE PARKING SPACES
10:22:10PM PROVIDED.
10:22:12PM AND 12 UNITS COULD BE BUILT ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE
10:22:15PM ACCORDING TO THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
10:22:18PM THE LAND USE REGIONAL USE AND MIXED USE CORRIDORS ALLOW FOR
10:22:24PM THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
10:22:28PM IT'S SUPPORTED BY VARIOUS LAND USE DESIGNATIONS AND
10:22:33PM CATEGORIES INCLUDED LIVABLE CITIES.
10:22:36PM THE CITY DESIGN STANDARDS, EMPLOYMENT CENTERS, MIXED USE
10:22:39PM CENTERS, LAND USE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, THE OVERALL LAND USE
10:22:44PM DESIGN, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, AND INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORT.
10:22:51PM SO I CAN JUST ORIENT YOU BRIEFLY.
10:22:55PM I THINK ZAIN WENT OVER THAT WITH YOU.
10:22:59PM THIS IS JUST SOUTH OF THE INTERNATIONAL MALL.
10:23:02PM IT'S SURROUNDED ON ONE SIDE ON THE WEST SIDE BY A COMMERCIAL
10:23:07PM RESTAURANT AND BUSINESS, AND ON THE EAST SIDE BY A
10:23:12PM 70-FOOT-TALL MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURE.
10:23:15PM AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE IS THE BASEBALL FIELD THAT HE REFERRED
10:23:18PM TO.
10:23:20PM IT'S ACROSS CHESTNUT STREET, SO THERE IS A SEPARATION THERE,
10:23:24PM BUT THIS ENTIRE AREA IS HIGH-RISE STYLE MULTIFAMILY
10:23:29PM DEVELOPMENTS.
10:23:32PM AND OUR MAIN CONSTRAINT HAS BEEN THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
10:23:37PM ROOM TO ADD ADDITIONAL PARKING.
10:23:38PM WE HAVE ONE SPACE FOR EACH UNIT PLUS TWO SPARE SPACES.
10:23:44PM WHAT WE'RE MISSING IS THE VISITOR SPACES THAT THE CITY
10:23:48PM REQUIRES IN THE CODE.
10:23:50PM WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH YOUR LAND USE REPORT FROM THE PLANNING
10:23:54PM COMMISSION, YOU'LL SEE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DESIGNATED LAND
10:24:00PM USE CLASSIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH, AND THAT
10:24:04PM INCLUDES THE CITY DESIGN, 1.2 THROUGH 1.2.26.
10:24:09PM EMPLOYMENT CENTERS.
10:24:10PM 2.2 THROUGH 2.26.
10:24:13PM MIXED USE CENTERS, 6.1 THROUGH 6.113.
10:24:18PM AND OVERALL LAND DEVELOPMENT CLASSIFICATIONS AND LAND USE
10:24:22PM GOALS AND OBJECTIVES 8.14, 8.142.
10:24:26PM SO IN THE SPIRIT OF DEVELOPMENT ON A SMALLER SITE, IT'S A
10:24:32PM VERY INTENSIVE, WITH A VERY HIGH LAND USE DESIGNATION.
10:24:36PM WE'RE REQUESTING THAT WE BE ALLOWED TO BUILD THE SEVEN UNITS
10:24:40PM AND PROVIDE NINE PARKING SPACES.
10:24:43PM FOUR OF THOSE UNITS ARE SMALLER, SO THEY ARE DESIGNED TO BE
10:24:46PM MORE AFFORDABLE AND THREE OF THE UNITS ARE LARGER, WHICH ARE
10:24:50PM MORE TOWARDS MARKET RATE.
10:24:53PM I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE I CAN ADD TO IT.
10:24:59PM AGAIN, OUR CITY ISSUE RELATES TO THE ADDITIONAL THREE
10:25:04PM PARKING SPACES THAT ARE PROVIDED OR AT LEAST INTENDED TO BE
10:25:07PM FOR VISITOR SPACES.
10:25:09PM AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE ON A HIGH INTENSITY OF TRANSPORTATION
10:25:13PM NETWORK AND CORRIDOR, THAT SHOULD BE MITIGATION ENOUGH TO
10:25:17PM NOT HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT.
10:25:19PM AND IT ALSO ENCOURAGES THE USE OF MORE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION
10:25:23PM THAT IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS SITE JUST TO THE NORTH.
10:25:39PM >> GOOD EVENING.
10:25:39PM AZAM ELSHEIKH, THE APPLICANT.
10:25:42PM I GUESS I NEED TO SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS BECAUSE THE
10:25:46PM AFFIDAVIT IS NOT HERE FOR STEVE.
10:25:49PM I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
10:25:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:25:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
10:25:56PM ARE THESE APARTMENTS OR CONDOS?
10:25:59PM >> APARTMENTS.
10:26:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THEY ARE FOR RENT.
10:26:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:26:03PM DOES THAT COMPLETE YOUR PRESENTATION?
10:26:08PM >> IT DOES.
10:26:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
10:26:10PM TO THIS AGENDA ITEM?
10:26:11PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
10:26:15PM >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
10:26:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:26:20PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:26:22PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:26:23PM THANK YOU.
10:26:25PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:26:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER REZ-22-101,
10:26:32PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
10:26:34PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:26:37PM 4523 WEST CHESTNUT STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
10:26:41PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
10:26:43PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION, PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD
10:26:46PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN
10:26:50PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:26:51PM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE POLICY
10:26:57PM 9.6.1 AND HOUSING POLICIES 1.3.1, 1.3.3 AND 1.3.4 WHICH
10:27:05PM ENCOURAGE NEW HOUSING ON VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO
10:27:09PM ENSURE THAT THE -- THAT AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IS
10:27:13PM AVAILABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S PRESENT AND FUTURE
10:27:16PM POPULATION AND PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS SHOWN ON THE SITE
10:27:18PM PLAN PROMOTES AND ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE
10:27:20PM IN LOCATION, CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE
10:27:22PM SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:27:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:27:28PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:27:31PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:27:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:27:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:27:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: RELUCTANTLY, YES.
10:27:43PM >> VIERA?
10:27:43PM MANISCALCO?
10:27:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:27:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:27:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:27:49PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT.
10:27:56PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JANUARY 5th,
10:28:00PM 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
10:28:04PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:28:05PM ALSO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION STAYING WITH ALL THE
10:28:07PM HEARINGS.
10:28:08PM I KNOW IT'S NOT SO EASY SOMETIMES.
10:28:10PM YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES.
10:28:12PM ANYWAY, JUST THOUGHT I WOULD THROW THAT OUT TO THANK YOU FOR
10:28:15PM YOUR ASSISTANCE IN ALL OF THESE HEARINGS.
10:28:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:28:18PM MS. SULING, DID WE EVER GET THE APPLICANT BACK ONLINE?
10:28:30PM >>THE CLERK: YES, WE DO HAVE MR. JUAN ON THE LINE.
10:28:33PM HE NEEDS TO ENABLE HIS VIDEO, AND THERE HE IS.
10:28:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I NEED FOR YOU TO PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT
10:28:39PM HAND SO YOU MAY BE SWORN IN.
10:28:42PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
10:28:45PM YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
10:28:47PM TRUTH?
10:28:48PM >> I DO.
10:28:49PM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
10:28:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:28:50PM COUNCIL, DOES MR. HUSAIN NEED TO RESTATE ANYTHING THAT HE
10:28:55PM STATED PRIOR?
10:29:00PM OKAY.
10:29:00PM APPLICANT, YOU'RE UP.
10:29:02PM >> ALL RIGHT.
10:29:03PM WE ARE ASKING TO CHANGE THE REZONING OF THE CURRENT LAND
10:29:10PM FROM RM 16 TO RM-24.
10:29:15PM THE LOT ITSELF IS AROUND 5,356 SQUARE FEET.
10:29:22PM SO WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL 71 SQUARE FEET.
10:29:25PM SO THE RM-24 WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THE DUPLEX ON THAT
10:29:31PM PROPERTY.
10:29:33PM IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE AND THE
10:29:36PM SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
10:29:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:29:41PM SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO
10:29:47PM SPEAK TO THIS?
10:29:48PM AND NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
10:29:52PM I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:29:55PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:29:56PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:29:59PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:30:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:30:01PM I'D LIKE TO MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
10:30:07PM READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
10:30:09PM GENERAL VICINITY OF 4621 EAST LAKE AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
10:30:12PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
10:30:14PM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM 16 RESIDENTIAL,
10:30:18PM MULTIFAMILY, TO RM 24, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING
10:30:20PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:30:21PM BASED ON SOME FINDINGS OF FACT HERE, I SEE THAT THE
10:30:29PM APPLICANT AND THIS APPLICATION IS COMPLIANT WITH THE
10:30:31PM APPLICABLE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES IN THE
10:30:35PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS NOTED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
10:30:37PM REPORT.
10:30:38PM FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH
10:30:41PM THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED IN THE COMMUNITY
10:30:44PM COMMERCIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY AND WILL HELP PROVIDE
10:30:48PM ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT
10:30:51PM AND EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE
10:30:53PM POLICIES 1.2.8, 8.14.2, 9.4.1, AND 9.6.2.
10:31:02PM ALSO, IT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE
10:31:07PM PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PROMOTES OR ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT
10:31:10PM IS APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION, CHARACTER, AND COMPATIBILITY
10:31:13PM WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:31:15PM THAT IS MY MOTION.
10:31:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:31:21PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:31:25PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:31:29PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
10:31:31PM >> VIERA?
10:31:32PM MANISCALCO?
10:31:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:31:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:31:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:31:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:31:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:31:43PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES VOTING NO.
10:31:47PM VIERA BEING ABSENT.
10:31:49PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JANUARY 5th,
10:31:55PM 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
10:31:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:31:59PM INFORMATION AND REPORTS?
10:32:01PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:32:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE] I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
10:32:07PM TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO A VERY, VERY GOOD GUY, OUR
10:32:11PM FRIEND WHO JUST GOT INDUCTED INTO THE BASEBALL HALL OF FAME,
10:32:15PM FREDDY McGRIFF, INDUCTED TO THE NATIONAL BASEBALL HALL OF
10:32:20PM FAME.
10:32:21PM HE WAS THE ONLY PLAYER SELECTED OUT OF EIGHT NOMINEES UNDER
10:32:25PM CONSIDERATION BY A 16-PERSON COMMITTEE.
10:32:28PM MR. McGRIFF WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE GETTING ALL 16 VOTES.
10:32:34PM GET BACK WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SEE WHEN I
10:32:37PM CAN GET HIM TO COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TO GET HIS
10:32:40PM COMMENDATION.
10:32:41PM HE'S ONLY THREE OR FOUR HOME RUNS SHORT OF 500.
10:32:44PM A NICER GUY -- IT'S A LONG HISTORY.
10:32:48PM HE GOT CUT AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL WHEN HE STARTED BUT HE
10:32:52PM WAS REAL SKINNY AND NOT TOO TALL.
10:32:55PM HE STARTED DOING EXERCISES AND BECAME WHAT HE IS.
10:32:58PM GREAT GUY.
10:32:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN THEY INDUCT PETE ROSE IN THE HALL
10:33:01PM OF FAME, YOU MAKE THAT MOTION AND I'LL SECOND IT, TOO.
10:33:05PM IT SHOULD HAPPEN.
10:33:06PM IT SHOULD HAPPEN.
10:33:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE SECOND ONE IS TWO OTHER GENTLEMEN
10:33:15PM THAT ARE COMING TO TAMPA, AND BOTH ARE GOING TO, I BELIEVE,
10:33:19PM RADIO STATION 97.1.
10:33:21PM THEY ARE BOTH HISPANIC ALL-STARS IN THE BROADCASTING
10:33:25PM BUSINESS.
10:33:25PM LISTEN TO THE NAMES.
10:33:26PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO
10:33:28PM ROQUE GALLART, BETTER KNOWN AS "ROCKY THE KID," WHO WILL BE
10:33:32PM COMING TO TAMPA SOON.
10:33:34PM HE IS A PUERTO RICAN BROADCASTER PERSONALITY.
10:33:37PM HIS FIRST SHOW WAS AN INSTANT SUCCESS.
10:33:41PM HE ALSO SPENT TIME DOING COMEDY AND ACTING AND MOVIES.
10:33:45PM ANOTHER PART OF PUERTO RICO, ANOTHER MOST WATCHED TV SHOW,
10:33:52PM AS COHOST.
10:33:53PM I WOULD BE MAKING THIS PRESENTATION OFF-SITE.
10:33:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
10:33:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S GO BACK TO THE FIRST.
10:33:59PM WE HAD A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
10:34:03PM MANISCALCO ON FRED McGRIFF.
10:34:05PM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:34:06PM ANOTHER MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
10:34:10PM MANISCALCO.
10:34:10PM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:34:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE THIRD ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
10:34:13PM MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO JAVIER ALEXANDER
10:34:15PM SALAZAR, BETTER KNOWN AS THE STAGE NAME "ALEX SENSATION."
10:34:20PM HE IS A POPULAR AWARD-WINNING RADIO DEEJAY, MUSIC, TASTE
10:34:24PM MAKER, AND RECORDING ARTIST.
10:34:24PM ALEX SENSATION WAS BORN IN BOGOTA, COLOMBIA, AND IMMIGRATED
10:34:31PM TO THE UNITED STATES AS A CHILD.
10:34:32PM THE ALEX SENSATION SHOW HAS REACHED THE HIGHEST RATING IN
10:34:33PM THE MARKET WITH MORE THAN 3 MILLION WEEKLY LISTENERS.
10:34:37PM THE SHOW ALEX THE SENSATION IS BROADCASTED ON RADIO DAILY IN
10:34:40PM NEW YORK, MIAMI, PUERTO RICO, ORLANDO, AND NOW IN TAMPA.
10:34:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA --
10:34:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT IF POSSIBLE THE
10:34:49PM 15th OF DECEMBER, IF NOT, OFF-SITE, DEPENDING HOW I CAN
10:34:50PM GET WITH THE RECORDS.
10:34:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:34:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:34:56PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:34:57PM ANY OPPOSED?
10:34:58PM THANK YOU.
10:34:58PM IS THAT IT?
10:34:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT, SIR.
10:35:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:35:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE SOME EMPLOYEES COME TO ME IN
10:35:05PM REFERENCE TO OUR GARAGES.
10:35:08PM I THOUGHT THERE WAS A SYSTEM IN PLACE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
10:35:11PM I NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:35:14PM THEY ARE SAYING THE WAITING LIST IN THE GARAGES AND OUR
10:35:17PM EMPLOYEES CAN'T BE ABLE TO PARK IN THE GARAGES.
10:35:21PM I SAW ONE OF OUR OTHER EMPLOYEES WALKING FROM HERE ALL THE
10:35:24PM WAY DOWN TO CATCH A TROLLEY TO GO TO THE YBOR GARAGE AND
10:35:28PM THEY WORK UP HERE.
10:35:29PM I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:35:30PM I REQUEST THE ADMINISTRATION TO REPORT BACK ON JANUARY 5th
10:35:34PM UNDER STAFF REPORTS ON THE EMPLOYEE PARKING, FORT BROOKE
10:35:41PM GARAGE, THE CITY GARAGES THAT ARE CURRENTLY OVER 500 PEOPLE
10:35:45PM ON A WAIT LIST AND EMPLOYEES ARE HAVING TO PARK IN LOCATIONS
10:35:48PM SUCH AS YBOR CITY AND HAVING TO CATCH A TROLLEY TO WORK.
10:35:53PM THAT'S A PROBLEM TO ME.
10:35:55PM ALSO, AGAIN, AT NIGHTTIME AND SOMETIMES DURING THE WEEK, OUR
10:36:01PM CLERKS HELP US OUT A LOT.
10:36:02PM I'M REQUESTING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION SEE IF THEY CAN FIND
10:36:05PM ACCOMMODATIONS IN REFERENCE TO THE CLERK HAVING A PARKING
10:36:09PM SPACE IN THE BRICKYARD OR RESERVED SPOT ON ONE OF THE
10:36:12PM STREETS WHEN THEY ARE HERE.
10:36:14PM THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE BOTHERING ME A LONG TIME.
10:36:17PM A COUPLE OF THEM CAME TO ME ABOUT IT.
10:36:20PM SEE IF WE CAN ACCOMMODATE.
10:36:22PM THEY DO WORK HARD FOR US.
10:36:24PM JANUARY 5th.
10:36:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR?
10:36:27PM ANY OPPOSED?
10:36:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: JANUARY 5, STAFF REPORTS.
10:36:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY
10:36:41PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:36:42PM ON THE SECOND ONE.
10:36:44PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:36:46PM ANY OPPOSED?
10:36:46PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:36:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
10:36:49PM DURING THE HURRICANE, WE HAD PLANNED TO DO A SPECIAL
10:36:53PM DISCUSSION MEETING TO DISCUSS THE PROGRESSION OF MEETINGS
10:36:56PM AND THE ORDER OF BUSINESS AND AFTER TODAY, LIKE OTHER
10:37:01PM THINGS, SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SCHEDULE ANOTHER
10:37:04PM SPECIAL DISCUSSION MEETING TO DISCUSS THE THINGS WE DIDN'T
10:37:07PM DISCUSS, LIKE ORDER OF BUSINESS, STAFF REPORTS VERSUS MEMOS,
10:37:11PM PUBLIC COMMENTS AND RULES OF PROCEDURES.
10:37:13PM DOES ANYONE HAVE A DATE THAT WORKS FOR THEM?
10:37:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 1st IS LIGHT.
10:37:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS WOULD BE BEFORE.
10:37:21PM THIS WOULD NOT BE DURING COUNCIL.
10:37:23PM THIS WOULD BE 8:30, BEFORE A COUNCIL MEETING.
10:37:31PM THE ONE DAY WE COULD DO IT IS ON THE 10th BEFORE
10:37:38PM COMMENDATIONS.
10:37:40PM JANUARY 10th AT 8:30 A.M. IN THE SISTER CITIES ROOM BEFORE
10:37:48PM COMMENDATIONS.
10:37:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 8:30 IS RATHER NOT MUCH TIME --
10:37:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 8:00 THEN.
10:38:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE OTHER THING, COUNCIL, YOU DO HAVE ON
10:38:10PM JANUARY 26th, YOU DO HAVE A WORKSHOP, CITY COUNCIL WORK
10:38:15PM WITH CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY ON A POLICY TO LIMIT THE NUMBER
10:38:18PM OF WORKSHOP AGENDA ITEMS PLACED ON THE AGENDA AS WELL AS
10:38:20PM LIMITING STAFF REPORTS.
10:38:22PM ALSO, I BELIEVE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE TO FIND OUT EXACTLY
10:38:25PM WHERE IT IS, BUT FOR THE STAFF TO COME BACK, THE
10:38:28PM ADMINISTRATION TO COME BACK TO HAVE A SEPARATE DAY FOR THE
10:38:31PM STAFF REPORTS.
10:38:32PM THAT WAS ALSO ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR MOTIONS.
10:38:35PM I DON'T RECALL -- I THOUGHT THAT WAS COMING BACK ON THE SAME
10:38:37PM DAY.
10:38:38PM JUST A REMINDER THAT ALL DOVETAILS INTO HOW YOU CONDUCT YOUR
10:38:43PM BUSINESS.
10:38:44PM AND THAT WILL MAKE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
10:38:49PM THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU.
10:38:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:38:53PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:38:55PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:38:56PM ANY OPPOSED?
10:38:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S IT.
10:38:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:38:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:39:02PM I HAVE THREE ITEMS TODAY.
10:39:04PM THE FIRST IS -- I KNOW THIS IS SHORT NOTICE, BUT IT'S MINOR.
10:39:12PM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR DECEMBER 15 UNDER STAFF
10:39:15PM REPORTS, AND IT CAN BE A WRITTEN REPORT, VIK BHIDE IS
10:39:20PM FAMILIAR WITH THIS.
10:39:21PM IF HE COULD PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT I COULD READ PUBLICLY AT
10:39:26PM THE MEETING.
10:39:26PM DON'T NEED TO HAVE HIM PRESENT, REGARDING THE TRAFFIC BACKUP
10:39:30PM AT TRADER JOE'S OFF DALE MABRY IN SOUTH TAMPA.
10:39:34PM CAN -- WE'VE ALL RECEIVED A TON OF COMPLAINTS BECAUSE IT'S
10:39:41PM SERIOUSLY IMPEDING TRAFFIC.
10:39:43PM I HAVE SPOKEN TO VIK ABOUT IT, I TOLD THE NEIGHBORHOOD I
10:39:46PM WOULD BRING IT UP TODAY.
10:39:47PM IF YOU COULD GIVE ME A BRIEF WRITTEN REPORT OF WHAT THE CITY
10:39:51PM CAN OR CANNOT DO.
10:39:52PM THIS WOULD BE STAFF REPORTS.
10:39:54PM I'M HAPPY IF IT IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
10:39:56PM I'LL BRING IT UP FOR A FEW MINUTES AND TALK ABOUT IT
10:39:59PM DECEMBER 15, NEXT THURSDAY.
10:40:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:40:03PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:40:04PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:40:05PM ANY OPPOSED?
10:40:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND MOTION IS CLEVELAND AND CLARK
10:40:12PM SUFFERS FROM MASSIVE FLOODING WHEN IT RAINS.
10:40:16PM I HAVE PICTURES HERE THAT ARE RIDICULOUS.
10:40:19PM I KNOW THAT THE CITY OWNS PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER
10:40:22PM OF CLEVELAND AND CLARK.
10:40:24PM I BELIEVE THE ADDRESS IS 125 SOUTH CLARK AVENUE.
10:40:27PM I DON'T KNOW IF -- THERE MAY BE OTHER LOTS OR MAYBE TIED UP
10:40:34PM IN LITIGATION, I DON'T KNOW, REGARDING AN -- EMPTY LOTS NEXT
10:40:40PM DOOR OR NEARBY.
10:40:41PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THE CITY WOULD CONSIDER OR CAN DO
10:40:45PM ANYTHING ABOUT PERHAPS BUILDING A STORMWATER POND OR
10:40:48PM SOMETHING IN THAT AREA, IF WE COULD HAVE SOMEBODY FROM
10:40:51PM STORMWATER JUST DISCUSS, CLEVELAND AND CLARK.
10:40:54PM WE OWN THE LOT I BELIEVE AT 125 SOUTH CLARK AVENUE.
10:40:58PM FEBRUARY 1st UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
10:41:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:41:04PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:41:06PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:41:07PM ANY OPPOSED?
10:41:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD WE CONFIRM THAT DATE, PLEASE, MADAM
10:41:11PM CLERK?
10:41:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 1st.
10:41:16PM IT'S SHORT ON STAFF REPORTS.
10:41:18PM I CHECKED.
10:41:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK I HAVE THE 2nd.
10:41:27PM BUT I MIGHT BE WRONG.
10:41:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 1st.
10:41:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FEBRUARY 1 IS A WEDNESDAY.
10:41:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 2nd.
10:41:52PM >> IT'S 1st ON THE CALENDAR.
10:41:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS FEBRUARY 2nd.
10:41:58PM 2ND IS A THURSDAY.
10:41:59PM THEN FEBRUARY 2nd.
10:42:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:42:07PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:42:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:42:10PM ANY OPPOSED?
10:42:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE FINAL MOTION IS, I'M SURE YOU ARE
10:42:16PM AWARE OF THE SHOOTING ON MAIN STREET AND ALBANY OR RIGHT
10:42:19PM NEARBY.
10:42:20PM I BELIEVE THERE WAS A FATALITY.
10:42:22PM THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS I RECEIVED A COMPLAINT FROM A
10:42:26PM PROPERTY OWNER THAT HAD BULLET HOLES IN THE WINDOWS OF HIS
10:42:33PM BUILDING BUT THEN ALSO A Facebook POST FROM BAY CANON, THE
10:42:39PM BREWERY RIGHT THERE ON MAIN STREET, THEY HAVE ANNOUNCED THEY
10:42:42PM WILL BE CLOSING THEIR TASTING ROOM.
10:42:44PM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE OFFERING SIT-DOWN SERVICE BECAUSE
10:42:48PM OF THE RECENT GUN VIOLENCE ON TOP OF OTHER ISSUES THAT THE
10:42:52PM COMMUNITY HAS BEEN STRUGGLING WITH AND THEY ARE JUST GOING
10:42:54PM TO BE TAKEOUT OR DELIVERY AND WHOLESALE.
10:42:57PM THE RETAIL OPERATION IS GOING TO SHUT DOWN THAT'S OPEN TO
10:43:00PM THE PUBLIC BECAUSE OF THE CRIME.
10:43:02PM I'D LIKE SOMEBODY FROM TPD TO COME AND DISCUSS WITH US WHAT
10:43:08PM IS GOING ON ON MAIN STREET AS WELL AS WHAT HAS GONE ON ON
10:43:12PM MAIN STREET BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE FIRST COMPLAINT WE HAVE
10:43:15PM RECEIVED.
10:43:15PM I KNOW THIS IS IN COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES' DISTRICT.
10:43:18PM WE SPLIT UP RIGHT THERE, BUT THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT
10:43:22PM AFFECTS ALL OF US.
10:43:24PM IF I COULD HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM TPD COME FEBRUARY
10:43:29PM 2nd UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
10:43:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:43:33PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:43:34PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:43:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT.
10:43:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:43:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: NOTHING.
10:43:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:43:40PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
10:43:42PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:43:44PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:43:45PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:43:46PM WE'RE ADJOURNED.
10:43:47PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:43:49PM
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